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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:00:32 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: longest song title ever???

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:27:32 EDT Ken Koester said:
>On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:24:03 EDT Scott Hammer said:
>
>I give.  I don't know of any member of the Nats that plays a rebec around town
>&, truthfully, can't imagine any of them playing the above.  Almost sounds like
>something Scott Reiss, Tina, and Bruce would do with Hesperus, especially as
>Tina does rebec, & Hesperus does early/traditional crossover fusion stuff.  But
>I can't say as I've ever heard them do this little number.
>
It was Hesperus I was thinking of -- isn't one of them also in the "Nats", as
you so quaintly put it?  Maybe it wasn't them I heard doing this number, but
I really have heard *someone* do it -- guess I'll have to rack my brain some
more.

BTW, I checked the 1992 Guiness Book of Records in the W&M Library (now pub-
lished by _Facts on File_, BTW), and there is *no* listing _at all_ for
longest song title.  Maybe they figured that "I'm a Clanky Old Yank . . ."
was unbeatable and retired the category.

-Scott "Insulted By Sonia's 'Disgrace' Remark Yesterday, But Unbowed" Hammer
 College of William and Mary

P.S. Yes, I _am_ wearing my patch, today.
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Re: Progressive
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:48:45 GMT
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In a previous article, crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM (crispen) says:

>Well the Dave Stewart in Eurythmics with Annie Lennox is probably the
>most famous of that ilk.  The Other Dave Stewart (tm) records with
>Barbara Gaskin and turns out what *I* consider to be prog rock, but
>what do I know?  Anyhow, it's definitely worth a listen (I think they
>record on Ryko).  But, remember, I'm a synth player and just about
>every one of Dave Stewart's songs is like a tour through his
>synth museum.  Wonderful old stuff.

>You're really asking where the borders of my definition of "progressive
>rock" are, and they're bound to be different from yours.  I think I
>might also include Kansas (from a certain period) and maybe even
>Boston (!).

  In that case, Rev. Bob "Bob," I guess you're the one to ask the following
question: Are (Bill) Bruford's _Feels Good To Me_ and _One of a Kind_ to be
considered progressive rock, or jazz-rock (ala the dreaded "f" word)?  I
figure you're the right guy to ask, since "the other Dave" plays on these
two platters. 
  After this one, maybe you and Mr. Bloom will treat us with tales of
Canterbury...?

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:20:09 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
              7 Oct 1992 17:08:13 EST from <988fernandez@GW.WMICH.EDU>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:08:13 EST <988fernandez@GW.WMICH.EDU> said:
>What about Ian Gillan and Fredy Mercury.Unforgatable.Right.
speaking of mercury, Boheiem Raphsody (sp) was a really cool song very
clever and "ballsy,IMHO
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:51:01 EDT
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      everything

Paul - you're the 1st person in ages that even has heard of Curved Air.
Is there any way I can get copies of any of their stuff from you...I'll
send the blanks if you like. I remember them from the early 70's and I
really liked the psychedelic sound of them. Let me know, either on this
net or at wk7@cornellc.bitnet. Thanks.

                   Debut Albums - songs
The only reason I'm responding to this new list thread is that I've often
bought albums based on 1 song I heard on the radio that drove me nuts. These
are some examples I remember :

     Song                             group's 1st album (not by name)
     ----                             -----------------

  Light My Fire                          Doors
  Foxy Lady                              Hendrix
  Lucky Man                              Elp
  Jingo or Persuasion                    Santana
  Communication Breakdown                Zep
  Pride of Man                           Quicksilver

more to come - system is being taken down by system droids.....DRAT !!!!!!

                                                       .... walt ...
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Charles Ives (was Top Allmusic Posters)
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:03:53 GMT

I just picked up a vinyl recording of the 1st piano sonata, having
long been a listener of his more famous 2nd. (Concord)  It is quite good
too, and even includes a ragtime section.

My other favorites:  The Holidays Symphony, Central Park In The Dark,
Unanswered Question.  There also is an album called Calcium White Light
that has his more experimental chamber pieces, it has some wild sounds.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:07:16 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Epic deput albums

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:16:37 MEZ Paul Hosken said:
> o Dire Straits - Dire Straits
Wow i couldn't agree more killer album
> o Elvis Costello - My Aim is True
another killer
> o Terence Trent D'Arby - *forgotten title*
What happen to this legend in his own mind

Hell of a list, I've forgot about some of these
...L.W.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:28:24 -0400
From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      speakers

   I've aquired a pair of Onkyo 4-way speakers.  Much nicer than the
Boston Acoustic A60 bookshelf speakers they replace. Anyone know the
"standard" crossover frequencies for each of the 4 speakers?  I can't
hear anything coming out of the highest frequency speaker.  Maybe I
should ask one of my kids, who can still hear those frequencies, to
give it a listen.

Russ
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:37:00 CDT
From:         TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: That 'Hello dad, I'm in jail' song...

> Can anyone tell me the name of the group that does that song in which,
> basically the only words are "Hello dad, I'm in jail"? It's played briefly
> in Pump Up the Volume, and I've seen a little animated cartoon using this
> song on the MTV special, Liquid Television.

The Group: Was (not Was)
The Album: What Up Dog!
Year:      1987

A pretty damn good album, actually. One of many I don't get enough time to
ever listen to. Happy Trails....

                                                           Tom
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:14:35 EDT
From:         "Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)" <TZJ101@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: AlL MuSiC ReUnIoNs ?

   I was wondering if I'd make this poem... I guess I did.

   Beerman didn't...



                                          - Drummer -
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:41:00 N
From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      APRS address

Hi all,
        I have a long-overdue debt to Michelle May... I promised her the APRS
(Professional Recording Association) address some 3, no - 4, well, MANY months
ago. Sorry for the delay. Since it may be of interest to many of you, here it
comes:

APRS
2 Windsor Square
Reading RG1 2TH
England

Phone: (44) 734 765218
Fax  : (44) 734 756216

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:28:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: U2 played here last night

>U2 played in town last night and got a full page write-up in the paper
>a full page, damn their not the beatles. I don't understand, I'm not
>knocking U2 (I don't care for them though), but damn we've had acts
that deserve more attention that U2. Just my HO. BTW everyone i've
>talked to that went said it was very good. Public Enemy opened for
>them aren't they are Rap group...Strange combination would you not
>agree. L.W.

Yah, it is a bit odd.  I heard the Sugarcubes were going to be plying with
them soon.  Is this true?

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
-----------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------
Derek Tiffany          | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | URICH, cuz you gotta be
University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu    |<= djt{zero}u@aurora...
-----------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------
"i think i've reached that point
 where every wish has come true
 and tired disguised oblivion
 is everything i do"
                                - The Cure
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:08:22 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Pyschedelic Meatballs and other lovers
              7 Oct 1992 21:54:40 -0400 from <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:54:40 -0400 The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny said:
>in the Frame By Frame box set. Sometime in the next two months Fripp will be
>releasing a multi-disc live set called _The Great Deceiver_ which features
>material from the Wetton era. I believe 2 or 3 other live sets are planned in
>the near future.
Yesterday I saw a Used KIng Crimson CD i can;t recall the name, but i'll be
there today yo cop the SRV disc, If anyone wants this KC cd please let me
know and i'll purchase it and maile it to you i think the price was 9.98
or 12.98 i don't remember i'll get the title and post it and like i say
(as i run on) i'll be glad to get it for you

>Re: New SRV
>
>gives you the impression that there are two guitarists playing at once. Other
>tracks are: In the Open, They Call Me Guitar Hurricane, All Your Love I Miss
>Loving (MUCH better than that crappy version Aerosmith did), Tin Pan Alley,

I didn't even know Areosmith covered that i've heard quite a few versions
(too many) i like john mayall & claptons version..It's a hard song to screwup
.......L.W.
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:59:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Camel's _The Snow Goose_

>From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>

>Camel is close to the Canterbury school-- they had Richard Sinclair on bass
>for a couple of pretty good records-- but IMHO would rank below the average of
>the actual Canterbury bands. Their most ambitious album was probably _The Snow
>Goose_, an instrumental suite based on what I think was a Norse bedtime story.

Actually, _The Snow Goose_ is an English story of relatively recent origin;
i.e. it takes place during World War II.  The quick plot summary is a young
(as in "on the verge of puberty") girl comes upon an injured snow goose.
Wanting to nurse the bird back to health, she elicits the aid of the local
semi-hermit, who is also the local expert in things aquatic.  I'm sure
you can fill in the rest of the story...  The special poignancy comes
from the required parting.  The old guy sails off in his sloop to join
the rescue at Dunkirk, so the TV version ends with the girl staring out
to sea and a final cut to his boat with him lying dead and the snow goose
keeping vigil.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From: jwright@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ceridwyn)
Subject: Re: Indigo Girls
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:19:26 GMT

jkh2001@ANDY.BGSU.EDU writes:

>>In response to Rev Dave Hall's question "Why  do we chastise people who
>>do [speak out politically]," I honestly do not know.  If you want music
>>with a message, a clear message only hindered by the fact that it IS a message
>>and people don't seem to like messages nowadays, get  your friends to buy the
>>Indigo Girls' RITES OF PASSAGE album.  Heck, buy any of their albums.  Their
>>music is brilliant, their lyrics are powerful, and relatively few people buy
>>their music.  For the most consequential album in at least 20 years not to go
>>gold yet (it's been on the shelves since 12 May) is truly a testament to the
>>lack of intelligence among mass society.  I'll be more that happy to talk
>>with anyone at length about the IG's music and their message.
>>
>>Julie Meloni, Univ. of Kentucky
>>JCMELO00@UKCC.UKY.EDU

>Julie,
>    It's great to know that there are other people out there who appreciate
>the music of the Indigo Girls.  While I must confess that I have not
>purchased "Rites of Passage" yet, (I worked on an island all summer, no
>music store) I think that the Indigo Girl's music is some of the most
>powerful and moving music I have heard in a long time.  Anytime you want to
>talk Indigo Girls, let me know.

>                                Jeremy K. Heilman
>                                jkh2001@andy.bgsu.edu
>"Castles made of sand melt into the sea eventually" - Hendrix

Anyone can speak Indigo Girls to me anytime.  I worship them.  Ok, I don't
actually sacrifice anything for special favours, but I might consider it if
I could get the chance to meet them.  I've been a big fan for 3 years now, adn
I agree, their music is inspired<could that have anything to do with the fact
that Amy? was a Bible major at Emory?>  If any of you have any idea where I 
can get my hands on a copy of their extended LP I will be forever grateful.
I heard it a few years ago and the person that had it has since lost it 
<sacriligious, I know>.  "Rites of Passage" has many new instruments, but it
is essentially the same Indigo Girls music.  Intellect and all.  The songs 
even though they are played with many instruments on the album, can still be 
performed with the two guitars and not lose any feeling.  They are, first and
formost, an incredible performance pair.  To see them live is to see them in
their element.
Write me.  I'll always talk.
Ceridwyn
jwright@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu

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       jCeridwyn                         "I feel like a furrball in
jwright@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu                    the throat of life."
filker/pagan/lesbian/Misty fan                -Mork from Ork-
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:40:25 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A survivor from Warsaw

Yes, MHB, but Schoenberg didn't write over 500 pieces, did he?  (Quick, what's
the BWV number of the Brandenberg concertos?  Time's up!)

As for "Bloomster", I cannot tell a lie:  someone else on the list used it
first  :-)
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Subject: lyrics\
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:21:00 GMT
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      I know there was a ftp site where you could get the lyrics of many bands,
but I have totally forgotten the address.  If anyone knows of this site, could
you please let me know.
                                                Thanks,
                                                Eddie
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:02:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Giles, Giles, and Fripp

>From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>

>I am interested in various projects that were done by people from the
>progressive bands. For example, I think around '68 there was a band
>called 'Giles, Giles, and Fripp' and they recorded one or two albums.
>It would be interesting to find out what those people did before their
>famous albums.

I think Giles, Giles, and Fripp had only one album, entitled _The
Cheerful Insanity Of_.  And it is a very cheerful album.  Bright
little ditties with a continuing story on each side between tracks.
A long way from the mood and music of the first King Crimson
album.  One suspects a change in medication.

After the initial King Crimson splintered, Ian Macdonald and the
drumming Giles brother (Michael, I think) put out an album entitled
simply _Macdonald and Giles_ with the "Birdman Suite" as its
highlight.  I love the closing theme, simply gorgeous music.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:12:28 EDT
From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Drivin' with my eyes closed...

< Yeah, I really love this! I almost lose it every time I listen to this cut.
< One time I was in my car and it came on the radio and I could barely drive -
< fortunately I was on a lightly traveled street and at a stop light for most
< of the tune - I must have looked weird to fellow drivers, grimacing and
< waving my head and hands all over!

Aah yes, I've looked pretty moronic myself on plenty occasions behind the
wheel. I once came into work to be unceremoniously dubbed "Boppin' Bob" by a
co-worker who saw me shaking in the car that morning (I seem to remember it was
to "White Feather" by Marillion.

Anyone know where I can get really good padding for my steering wheel. My
thumbs are starting to hurt from 'wheel drumming'...

Bob T
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:07:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Top 5 Vocalists

Off the top of my head with an obvious Metal taint:

                                         ..
1)  Geoff Tate - lead vocalist of Queensryche. The voice, the man, no one
    else can touch him. He has lost some of his range since Queensryche's
    early music. Live on stage, he is even better. Very theatrical. Could
    probably sing opera if he wanted.

2)  Rik Emmett - one of the vocalists of Triumph. Has a very distinct voice.
    I'd know it anywhere. Really hits the high notes. Why he doesn't sing
    more or all of Triumph's songs, I'll never know.

3)  David Coverdale - lead vocalist of Whitesnake. His voice isn't anything
    that special, but I like it. I liked him even better live.

4)  Sebastian Bach - lead vocalist of Skid Row. Great singing voice. Excellent
    group leader. Lots of hair.

5)  Mark Slaughter - lead vocalist of Slaughter (former guitarist for the
    Vinnie Vincent Invasion). Very very distinctive voice. Hits the high
    ones and sometimes sounds whiny. His voice is easy to hate but I like it.

6)  Bret Michaels - Not!!!

Seeya,
Gary
"Never do a drug named after a part of your own ass"
-- Dennis Leary
From: MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken Koester)
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Subject: Re: Classical Music Poll - part III
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:20:23 GMT
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:04:41 EDT <MMORSE@YORKVM1> said:
>"But there just weren't a lot of opera votes.."
>If Carmen & Boheme were the top of the small heap, I can see why. It's
>a pity how many people don't realize that the operatic stage bore
>most of the crowning glories of European music between 1600 & 1900..
>but the inflated reputation of a couple of potboilers is in part to
>blame.
>Michael

I don't buy "most" in this context.  Care to elucidate?
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Blues - Put up or Shut up
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:24:56 GMT

All I can say, if you are lucky to be near an NPR affiliate that carries
BLUES BEFORE SUNRISE, try to tune in.  It would be on saturday, between
midnight and 5 AM.  The DJ Steve Cushing (sp) plays an incredible
variety of blues, however, mostly earlier recordings.  In fact, I have
heard he doesn't like the modern players so much, which I would agree,
is kind of strange and short sighted.  But he plays the earlier stuff, 
from the roots stuff to R&B bands from the 40s and 50s, and you will get quite 
an education.

It never ceases to amaze me at how vast the genre of blues is.  So many
players, the well known ones like Bessie Smith, and the obscure ones,
who didn't have much fame.

Jeff
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Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:28:41 GMT
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In a previous article, gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL () says:

>>I would like to ask a favor. Should you happen to run across the EP
>>_Road Games_ by Allan Holdsworth, please contact me with the asking
>>price and condition. No, I already have a copy, thanks... but many (MANY)
>>of the Atavachron folks do not, and it's really tough to find. Y'see,

>I couldn't find *any* of Allan Holdsworth's stuff the other day. I figured I'd
>browse through some of his stuff, but noooooooo. I'd like to check out some of
>his music being as he is highly regarded among the allmusic folk, and being as
>you have devoted an entire list to him. Thing is, I don't think I've ever heard
>anything by him.

  Well, by all means you should call your local record stores repeatedly
over the course of the next few weeks and ask if they have his CDs. They'll
have them soon enough.  :)  Restless is really putting his discs on the
shelves in this area (a big surprise), so I'm glad he appears to be getting
the support he's always needed on that end of things. Then again, there is 
always Noteworthy -- they have all the domestic stuff, and at good prices,
too.

>So what do you recommend to start?

  First I have to unconfuse the Garys...  :)  I think you'd be the Gary to
appreciate the U.K. debut (_U.K._, which belongs in that 'great debuts' list)
best of all. Again, Noteworthy has this one. Killer stuff, this one be.
  Let me know what you think of that one, and I might have a better idea of
what to send you looking for next time.

  
  Jeff ("n.n.")

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