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From: rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: NBC Red and Blue Net Confusion
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:33:20 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
Originator: wdp@gagme


Harris Boldt Edelman <red-eft!hbe@valley.west.sun.com> writes:
> Recently Damian Centgraf mentioned that the old NBC Red Network became ABC.
> Scott Fybush and Bob Carpenter both wrote that this was wrong, that it was
> the Blue Network that became ABC.
>
Stuff left out...
> I did some extensive reading some thirty-odd years ago on the history of
> broadcasting in the U.S.  All sources I encountered at the time related
> that the Blue Network had remained NBC, while the spun-off Red Network
> became ABC.
>
> Scott and Bob, can you convince me with more than your authoritative voices
> that it's in fact my mind that's playing the cruel trick of inaccuracy here?
>
Harris, my source is that I'm old enough (but not too old ;-)) to remember
when the switch took place. I was a teenager living in Richmond, VA, and
hung around the NBC/Red station, WMBG. The NBC/Blue station was arch-rival
WRNL. Both were jealous of 50 kW WRVA, CBS.  Another reference would be to
follow the NBC key stations in New York. Which station was NBC/RED (ans. WEAF,
later WNBC)?  Which station was NBC/Blue (ans. WJZ, later WABC, since Blue net
became ABC)?
Another reference is that, in Washington,D.C., WRC/NBC/Red stayed with NBC,
while WMAL/NBC/Blue, became Blue (finally ABC), and was sold.

>For my part, I'm sending out a research assistant on Monday to check the
>facts, and I expect to have a report with his findings in the rrb moderator's
>mailbox by early Tuesday morning.

I don't know where your research assistant looks, but I suggest looking in
the "Broadcasting Yearbook"s for the early-40s. "Broadcasting" magazine itself
would be a good source, but not as concentrated as the Yearbook. I would
ignore the history books that may well have been carelessly written by people
who weren't around at the time.
There MAY even be somebody still around at ABC who can answer this sort of
question!
> -Harris  <red-eft!hbe@valley.west.sun.com>

73, Bob <w3otc@amsat.org>
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From: jwg@acd4.acd.com ( Jim Grey)
Subject:  Re: record pools
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:30:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.152753.24582@gagme.chi.il.us> umcknig1@cc.swarthmore.edu
(Ulrik McKnight) writes:
>
>I DJ a Hip-Hop (The Sunny Meadow) show here at  Swarthmores' WSRN, and
>almost always have to use my personal record collection, because the
>stations selection is so poor. I was wondering if any of you know the
>proper procedure of getting onto label mailing lists, or into record
>pools??? I would really appreciate any info that you have.
>
>Ulrik McKnight 


You need to subscribe to the right trade mag, probably the College Music
Journal 
(CMJ), start reporting your playlists to it, and start pestering the record company
reps whose phone numbers you'll find in the mag.  (There's a place for record
company reps to write a paragraph or two about what's hot on their label; they
always leave their phone number.)  Wish I could tell you how to get a CMJ
subscription; in my college radio days the music director handled that and I
never paid attention to how!
 
Good luck,
 
jim grey
jwg@acd4.acd.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>
Subject: Remarkable ! 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:44:03 GMT



About a week ago I noted, while mentioning the programming on WTOP-AM, that
they had a policy which forbad the term "Redskins" - even in their sports
news. This policy dates back some months. Well, starting a couple of days
ago the "Redskins" have returned to WTOP. I had no I idea how powerful the
mere mention of their policy in this Interest Group would be ;-)
Bob Carpenter  w3otc@amsat.org
From: "Chip (C.D.) Kelley" <chipk@bnr.ca> 
Subject: Dallas Ft. Worth Radio Changes
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: __
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 08:22:22 GMT


Almost 5 years to the day top 40 KTKS-106.1 "Kiss" switched to new
age-jazz KOAI "the Oasis," KOAI has switched to top 40 KHKS "106.1 Kiss
FM."  They are - relatively rare these days - mainstream top 40.  With
KEGL-97.1 "the Eagle, Today's Rock & Roll" having moved from top 40 to
rock-top 40, there was a void.

KOAI's new age format has moved to rock AC KCDU-107.5 "CD-107.5."  KCDU
is now calling themselves "107.5 the Oasis."

Lots of changes in Dallas this year.  Normally, we are lucky to have 1
or 2 changes within a 12 month period.  In the last 12 months, we've
had:

      jazz KJZY-99.1 -> SMN Z-Rock "99-1 Z-Rock"
      hot AC KRSR-105.3 "Star 105" -> country KYNG "Young Country"
      top 40 KEGL-97.1 "Eagle" -> rock 40 "Eagle"
      oldies KODZ-94.9 "Oldies 94.9" -> country KSNN "Sunny 95"
      new age KOAI-106.1 "106.1 the Oasis" -> top 40 KHKS "106.1 Kiss FM"
      rock AC KCDU-107.5 "CD-107.5" -> new age "107.5 the Oasis" 



Chip Kelley
chipk@bnr.ca

My views only, not BNR's
From: umcknig1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Ulrik McKnight)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: record pools
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:27:53 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College
Originator: wdp@gagme


I DJ a Hip-Hop (The Sunny Meadow) show here at  Swarthmores' WSRN, and
almost always have to use my personal record collection, because the
stations selection is so poor. I was wondering if any of you know the
proper procedure of getting onto label mailing lists, or into record
pools??? I would really appreciate any info that you have.

Ulrik McKnight 
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From: norris@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Chonak)
Subject: Re: Thanks to all, finished BBC list.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 09:53:12 GMT

Also, WADN-AM (1120, Concord, MA) carries the World Service weekday
evenings from 6 pm to 6 am.  More on the weekends.  This is probably
only audible within a few miles of Concord, because the station 
uses 5 kW day and 1 kW at night.
-_RC

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: stehle@erg.sri.com (Roy Stehle)
Subject: Need FM station coverage area maps or on-line coordinates
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:35:08 GMT



Several years ago, I had run across a large-size paperback reference work
that had technical info on TV and radio stations (e.g., TX power, antenna
height, antenna coordinates).  Also included were rough plots of signal
coverage areas.  I did not write down the title; I'd like to locate the
reference.  Can you help?

As an alternative, is there a source of station coordinates and transmitter
power in electronic format?  I'd appreciate any references, particularly
to anything available via ftp, etc.

Roy Stehle
SRI International
Menlo Park, CA 94025
stehle@erg.sri.com
 


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos)
Subject: Re: DMX -- Kind of a letdown...
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: T.T.L.F.  San Francisco, CA
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 10:05:46 GMT

Chuck.Lavazzi\@lambada.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:

> In article <1992Oct23.060042.15394\@gagme.chi.il.us> aar001\@acad.drake.edu
w
> >       I get this really annoying
> >       click and my DMX cuts out for a quarter of a second. (Not
> >	particularly long, but annoying, none the less).
> 
> Interesting.  I've noticed the same problem, and I'm living in my own
> house!

EEEK! It's a damn good thing I saw this post before calling to have DMX
installed.. but then again.. I should think twice when Viacom Cable SF goes
out about once a week in the part of SF where I live...

Tom@spud.kludge.COM                             Tater Tot Liberation Front
"Love ain't nothing but sex misspelled"            Live from San Francisco
                       -Harlan Ellison                     +1.415.255.8340

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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Re: The Blue and Red Networks
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:30:19 GMT


Harris Boldt Edelman <red-eft!hbe@valley.west.sun.com> writes:
>Recently Damian Centgraf mentioned that the old NBC Red Network became ABC.
>Scott Fybush and Bob Carpenter both wrote that this was wrong, that it was
>the Blue Network that became ABC.

>This latter assertion troubles me.  In fact, it's been troubling me since the
>first time I encountered it on the net some years back, and the several times
>it's been reasserted since then.

>I did some extensive reading some thirty-odd years ago on the history of
>broadcasting in the U.S.  All sources I encountered at the time related
>that the Blue Network had remained NBC, while the spun-off Red Network
>became ABC.

>Scott and Bob, can you convince me with more than your authoritative voices
>that it's in fact my mind that's playing the cruel trick of inaccuracy here?

>From Erik Barnouw's authoritative _The Golden Web_ (Oxford, 1968), p. 190:

"...The FCC report for the year [1943--s.f.] records that 'sale of the
Blue Network Company, Inc. (wholly owned by RCA) to American Broadcasting 
System, Inc. ( (wholly owned by Edward J. noble)' was approved on October
12, 1943...A new network was born, soon renamed the American Broadcasting
Company -- ABC."

>From ABC founder Leonard Goldenson's _Beating the Odds_ (Scribners, 1991),
p. 96:

"American Broadcasting was created in 1927 by RCA as the NBC Blue Radio
Network.  Gen. David Sarnoff, head of RCA, used the Blue Network to try
out new programs and to serve some of the smaller markets.  NBC also
had a Red Network, which included more powerful stations in the larger 
cities.  The best programming went t to the Red Network.

In 1941, the FCC ruled that no entity could simultaneously broadcast
on more than one network.  RCA could operate either the Red or the
Blue, but not both.  The Blue network went on the market."

>From Peter Fornatale and Joshua E. Mills' _Radio in the Television
Age_ (Overlook Press, 1983), p. 112:

"...ABC's roots lay in the FCC's order to NBC to divest itself
of either its Red Network or its Blue Network.  In 1943 NBC sold
the Blue system to the American Broadcasting System, Inc., which
soon renamed itself the American Broadcasting Company."

>From _The New York Times Encyclopedia of Television_ (Times Books.
1977), p. 298:

"The Blue Network began Jan. 1, 1927 with six affiliates. (On FCC
orders, it was divested by RCA in 1943 and became ABC)."

I can grab some more books of my shelf if you really want :-)

A few more ABC notes: The Blue Network's key affiliates were
WJZ New York and WENR Chicago.  These stations survive today as
ABC owned and operated WABC and WLS.  The Red Network originated
at WEAF New York, last known as WNBC before its demise in 1987.
Other key Red stations were WMAQ Chicago and WRC Washington, both
of which were sold off by RCA when it sold the NBC radio
operations after its purchase by GE.

Scott Fybush -- fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: 94691@dunix.drake.edu (The Dark Kitty)
Subject: Re: Did I do the right thing?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:42:16 GMT


In article <1992Nov8.073532.1958@gagme.chi.il.us> Mr J I D Masterton
<hid009@central1.lancaster.ac.uk> writes:
>
>At which point I blew up. If they had intended the breakfast slot to
>have a format NOBODY TOLD ME! To me it was symptomatic of the lack of
>organisation in the station. I did not get up at the crack of dawn every
>morning to be stressed like this so on the Thursday morning I forced
>myself out of bed, played back to back music for 3 hours before telling
>the bosses to find themselves another breakfast show presenter. A few
>days later I phoned one of the programme organisers (supposedly in
>charge of programming) to ask if I was needed at all. He replied: "I
>don't know James, it is out of my hands..."
>
>I have not been in contact with them since. I have no regrets over what
>happened. I feel I was justifiably proud of the job I was doing and I
>was extrmely offended at the way I was treated.
>
>All I want to know is this..... Would anyone else have done the same thing?

Absolutely you did the right thing.  As far as I'm concerned, you don't
have to regret a thing.  They abused you for no reason, mistreated you
in the face of your working hard for them and caused their own problems.

I once worked as a computer programmer for someone with the same kinds
of attitudes.  I did the programming, fixed bugs, dealt with customers,
repaired computers, solved all kinds of problems and generally did
things the entreprenuer couldn't have done himself.  For this I received
$5.00 an hour, which in the United States is barely above the minimum
wage you can give an employee by law.  My understanding was that I'd
only have to program, not do all the other things.  Plus he promised
me a raise which never came, even though he kept me around.  If I
was so bad I didn't deserve a raise, why did he keep me?  So I quit.

Now I am a DJ for my campus radio station, which I do for free and
because I love radio and want to do a good job.  Most of the other
DJs are just Journalism majors who have to do it for their degree.
The General Manager was VERY glad that I'd be doing a show for her.
She is pleased to have someone who actually cares and will put some
effort into the show and the station.  (First techie job for me is
to fix the phone patch!)  =-)  Hopefully, I'll not have the kinds
of problems you had.

Anthony Clifton
"Tony Scott" of The Know-Show on KDRK, Drake University, Des Moines
                                                         (Iowa, USA)



Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Robert Smathers <roberts@triton.unm.edu>
Subject: Re: Help with programming on 50kw stations
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 10:43:14 GMT


Addition to your entry for:

770 KKOB Albuquerque,NM

Albuquerque Dukes (baseball, AAA league) station.
carries Deborah Norville, Tom Snyder, ESPN Radio Network
on weekends, Costas Coast-to-Coast Sunday nights, Rush
Limbaugh repeats in the early AM hours as "filler".

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: resystom@igc.apc.org (Bruce Girard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: freedom of speach under attack
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:28:49 GMT
Organization: __
Originator: wdp@gagme

URGENT COMMUNIQUE
NUMBER : 11  
COUNTRY: PANAMA
              FREEDOM OF SPEACH UNDER ATTACK
The Commission for the Defense of Human Rights in Central
America (CODEHUCA) received information from the National
Human Rights Commission in Panama (CONADEHUPA) about an
attack against the B.B. radio station of Mr. Andrs Vega
Domplin.
FACTS:
On October 18 1992, at 3:00 a.m., men in civilian clothes
broke the main entrance door of the radio station B.B., and
registered papers and throw them on the floor. According to
Mr. Vega, the unknown men were looking for something, but
obviously they couldn't find it. The materials they took with
them are of little value. Before leaving they tried to set
the building on fire.
Besides this attack, another violation was reported to us,
namely the disappearance of MARCELINO GONZALEZ, 17 years old,
native of Pipa de los Pozos, who, during the last two weeks,
spent the night at the radio station. At this moment we do
not have any information on his whereabouts.
It is important to point out that this is the third attack
against this station. The first one happened on January 7
1990, during which all the transmissions and antennas were
set on fire. At the same time the station was also hindered
in its work by the "Closure of the A.M. Frequency". The
second attack was an attempt to set the building on fire.
Therefore, we are sending this message to our Solidarity
Network and request you to speak out against this attack, and
the violations of the freedom of speech and constitutional
rights. Especially because at this moment the political
situation in Panama is critical, and the administration od
justice is ineffective.  Popular sectors and the media have
also pointed out that sectors linked to unlawful enterprises
are being favoured. Because of the defencelessness of the
Panamanian people, we request you to send your messages to
the following addresses:
ADRESSES:
Lic. Guillermo Endara Galimany     Baltazar R. Aizpur#a
President of the Republic          Panamanian Syndicat of
of Panama                          Journalists
P.O. Box: 3434                     Secretary General
Panama City                        FAX: (00507) 250857
FAX: (00507) 270076
Please send a copy of any reaction you receive to your
messages to CODEHUCA, Secretar!a de Denuncia.
         
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Harris Boldt Edelman <red-eft!hbe@valley.west.sun.com>
Subject: The Blue and Red Networks
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: __
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 09:53:47 GMT


Recently Damian Centgraf mentioned that the old NBC Red Network became ABC.
Scott Fybush and Bob Carpenter both wrote that this was wrong, that it was
the Blue Network that became ABC.

This latter assertion troubles me.  In fact, it's been troubling me since the
first time I encountered it on the net some years back, and the several times
it's been reasserted since then.

I did some extensive reading some thirty-odd years ago on the history of
broadcasting in the U.S.  All sources I encountered at the time related
that the Blue Network had remained NBC, while the spun-off Red Network
became ABC.

Scott and Bob, can you convince me with more than your authoritative voices
that it's in fact my mind that's playing the cruel trick of inaccuracy here?

For my part, I'm sending out a research assistant on Monday to check the
facts, and I expect to have a report with his findings in the rrb moderator's
mailbox by early Tuesday morning.


-Harris  <red-eft!hbe@valley.west.sun.com>


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: martin.briscoe@almac.co.uk
Subject: rds(radio data system)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:31:11 GMT



>Does anybody know RDS(Radio Data System) from a company  called Axcess?
>Please send me info about the product and the company. 
>Thanks in advance.
  ------

Not sure if you are asking for information on RDS in general or one
particular company Axcess ?

               Martin
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From: Brian.K.Sward@dartmouth.edu (Brian K. Sward)
Subject: Re: Syndicated programs distributed on CD
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 09:54:01 GMT


While making a CD to play it once is wasteful, it is much more
convienent than using satelite programming.  It also allows individual
stations to program the shows when it is convienent and when they will
reach the best audience.  Until recently, most of these programs were
shipped on vinyl (Desert Island Discs still is).  The only other method
I've seen is shipped as reels of tape.  While the tape can be reused,
the shipping costs are much greater than those for a CD without a jewel
box.  We have two school stations, WFRD (99.3FM, AOR) and WDCR (1340AM,
alternative) and only the AM syndicated shows ever get shipped on tape.
 Also, when engineering, I prefer programming that's shipped to us
rather than off the sattelite.  You don't have to worry about fitting
comercials into an exact 60-second slot.  

Brian

brian.sward@dartmouth.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: GE Super Radio I-III
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:38:27 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I'm a bit confused about the SuperRadio -- is it for shortwave or
MW DX'ing?  I mean, what exactly do people use it for?

-Louis
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Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack DX390
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:28:16 GMT


  Radio Shack wire antenna which has a nice spool and clip
  a great if you are travelling. But at home you can get 
  the same result by using cheap wire and alligator clip

     Of course it doesnt look that good .
   and you don't need to spend $4 or so. 
  Muskie
From: IO10219@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Sid Whitaker, Boston University)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Brazilian radio
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:27:01 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

A friend of mine just recently gave me an old Panasonic SW receiver and
I was wondering if anyone had any info on broadcasts from Brazil...
is there a "radio Brazil" or some other such entity? Any info on
specifics would be greatly appreciated. (Please list times for broadcasts
in Portugese and/or English, if possible)
Thank you very much.

Sid
Boston Univ. '94

(please reply to:  sid@acs.bu.edu  --thank you!)
From: xberri@quark2.aero.org (Jason E. Berri)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: KNLS Schedule
Keywords: schedule
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: xberri@arecibo.aero.org
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: quark2.aero.org
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

KNLS Transmission Schedule
Effective September 27, 1992 - March 27, 1993

TIME (UTC)	FREQ	LANGUAGE
0800-0900	7365	English
0900-1000	7365	Russian
1000-1200	7365	Mandarin
1200-1300	7365	Russian
1300-1400	7355	English
1400-1500	7355	Russian
1500-1700	7355	Mandarin
1700-1800	6150	Mandarin

--
Jason Berri  [berri@aero.org or berri@arecibo.aero.org]
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: Andrian Kronauer on AFN / NPR
Organization: eng
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:37:02 GMT

This morning at 00:00 and 06:00 CET I heard Adrian Kronauer on AFN-FM for one hour.
Perhaps it may be repeated another time today. It's a production of NPR's WETA
and probably maybe heard in the US as well.
Adrian Kronauer was the DJ of AFRS Saigon, he was featured in the movie 
GOOD MORNING VIETNAM.
In his show he tells about his time there. Very interesting!

Jurgen


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