From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: Water Quality and City Water
Keywords: ph, water
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:39:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.135918.25634@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, mattk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (matthew.kaufman) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug17.122411.15888@walter.bellcore.com> fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi) writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug17.013144.2689@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, montjoy@thor.ece.uc.edu (Robert Montjoy) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> 
|> >|> 1) What to do with a Hard alkaline City Water?
|> 
|> Keep fish that LIKE hard, alkaline water. There're plenty of beautiful
|> fish that like this kind of water - african rift lake cichlids, most
|> livebearers, lampeye killifish (some people like them, like Oleg :-). There're
|> fish everywhere there's water and food and sufficient temperature to support
|> life (Lake Baikal in Siberia, which may be the deepest rift lake in the world,
|> don't remember the Geographic article, I think is barely 40F at the warmest
|> time of year and has a thriving fish population. Desert Hole and other
|> pupfish live in water that's alkaline and very warm (sometimes 100F). Fish
|> are tough.) You know the old saying - "if they hand out lemons, make lemonade."
|> I keep plenty of fish in my hard, alkaline tapwater, I just don't deal
|> with the fish that demand soft water without providing it.
|> >|> 



|> >|> 
|> >|>    I am trying to setup a community tank. Soft water slightly acidic
|> >|>    to neutral.
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|> >
|> >	You can purchase water softening pillows from your local aquarium shop.
|> >You put them in the filter basket for a day, then take them out and soak them 
|> >in saline solution for a day to recharge them. I hear that if they are properly
|> >cared for, they can be reused for quite some time.

|>>  Why bother.
     ^^^^^^^^^^

	If you weren't so quick to get your rocks off, and had read the question
the originator of this posting specified that he wanted SOFT WATER. He didn't
ask which fish he could keep in hard water. Maybe he has some particular fish 
in mind, or maybe he doesn't want to clean the calcium carbonate deposits out
every week.               





|> >	Most freshwater fish do not tolerate hard water. Especially Angels and 
|> >Discus. Also water that is hard is almost always alkaline. Even if you add
|> >soduim biphosphate to lower the Ph, it'll come right back up unless you soften 
|> >the water.
|> 
|> The part oabout the pH is true. The generalization about hard water and
|> fish is bullpucky.
           ^^^^^^^^^

	First off, I said MOST, secondly, what the hell is bullpucky? 
(Can't beleive I took the time to reply to someone who uses the word bullpucky)
I even went as far as to clarify the generalization by mentioning Angels and 
Discus. 

	There were more slanderous remarks in your posting which I chose not
to address....

	What have we learned Bull, or is that Mr. Pucky?

 Read the question more carefully before you go ballistic.



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