HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: William R Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Romance plot sitcoms,etc
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:59:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.171640.29060@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> you write:
>
>   I've heard that MoonLighting totally went down the drain
>   when Maddie and David got together. ( I confess, I didn't watch 
>   the last two seasons)
>
>-Wilber L. Baker              hbawl@[usmi02.]midland.chevron.com
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>     Admin.                Midland, TX   79705    (915) 687-7241

It did, but not because they got together.  It sucked because
the writing sucked.  Still was a great show, though.....


--The Rook
  <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

 " 'You and I are such similar creatures, Vivian.  We both
      screw people for money.' "
          --Gere to Roberts, _Pretty Woman_



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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: Damn Sybil Sheppard is Fine...watching the Tonight Show.
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 15:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.113935.29447@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> garvey@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Heather Garvey) writes:
>trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>>For a blonde woman, she's amazing.  I felt compelled to post...sorry.
>
>       Ah, but she looked *OOOOLD* last night... Crow's feet like
>you wouldn't believe...I was kinda surprised when I walked in to
>the room and saw her on the TV looking that nasty.

Oy... ageism and blondeism in a single post.
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
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From: thomas@acuson.com (Chris Thomas)
Subject: CW: Civil Wars 4/7, pre-empted everywhere?
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:46:37 GMT

Was "Civil Wars" pre-empted everywhere Tuesday night because of the
election results?

Out here in California, the 10:00 slot was filled by "Jeopardy" and
"Wheel of Fortune" (on KGO), because the station had run the ABC
News special live at 7:00 PDT (10:00 EDT).

Does one of the Canadian networks carry the show?  If so, what's
happening with that schedule?

Bad timing, given TV Guide's *huge* plug for the show this week!


-- 
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From: langbein@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Fugitive)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller in NY
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:22:32 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

In article <1992Apr12.165634.17447@predator.vpharm.com> dap@predator.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:

> In article <17860.217.uupcb@ehbbs.hou.tx.us> john.barta@ehbbs.hou.tx.us (John Barta) writes:
> >LK>With all this talk about Penn and Teller, it's made me wonder...
> >LK>I'm going to be in New York next month, and the latest I heard
> >LK>they have an off-Broadway show. Is this still playing? Has anyone
> >LK>seen this current show? Is it worth seeing?

I saw it... Typical Penn & Teller... Many re-runs from TV specials/Movies

They are on national tour through the universitys for some spring
deal. That show is 60% of the B-way show, and $30 cheaper.

> >I suggest you might try calling their "bbs" MoFo Ex Machina at
> >1-212-764-3834 to see if there's any information posted.  So far as
> >I know, it's still in operation, but I haven't called it in
> >sometime.

It is there.
I called it. It is like $5.00 an hr. The person I talked to didn't
know what she was talking about, so help is futile there.

> This number is in operation, but it prompts you for a password. 
> Anyone know what that password might be? I think the password was published
> in an article on the number that appeared in The Wall Street Journal
> a few years ago, but I didn't write it down :-(

Try MOFO.

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From: winicur@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Zev Winicur)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Eerie, Indiana final episodes?
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:39:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.winicur.703222781
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

emmanuel@eff.org (Emmanuel Goldstein) writes:

>Did anyone happen to catch what I understand to be the last two
>episodes of Eerie, Indiana? The final episode was supposed to
>be a self-referential one, where the characters find out they're
>really on a tv show that's about to be cancelled.
>Does anyone have either one or both of these on tape? If so,
>please contact me so we can discuss terms, swaps, whatever.
>Thanks.

T.V. Guide claims that it is on hiatus.  Hopefully that means that it will
come back.


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From: aconn@jade.tufts.edu (Zoom Master 1                                     )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,ne.general
Subject: Re: Herve Villeichaize on Dunkin Donuts?!
Keywords: commercials, Fantasy Island
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:41:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <3002@cvbnetPrime.COM> lyz@caribe.prime.com (Elizabeth Meade) writes:
>
>I hate to admit that I used to watch Fantasy Island, but I did.  And I
>am pretty sure that I read some years ago that Herve Villeichaize
>(sp?) (otherwise known as Tatoo) had died.  But lately in Boston I
>have seen some Dunkin Donuts commercials which look pretty current and
>which feature Vill. . .  .Tatoo.  It doesn't look like they edited him
>into commericals from old Fantasy Island footage either.  What's the
>scoop?  Am I wrong about his having died?  Will anyone admit to
>knowing?
>
>Lyz
>
>I don't have anything clever to say--I'm a philosopher.
>(Using the account of my long-suffering, non-television watching husband)
>Arturo Perez
>ComputerVision, a division of Prime
>aperez@cvbnet.prime.com
>Too much information, like a bullet through my brain -- The Police

I heard that he had died too.  Guess that guest appearance on Different
Strokes did his acting career in, like so many before. It's good to
see him back... think he'll ever learn ANY new dialogue? 

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From: maus@fid.morgan.com (Malcolm Austin)
Subject: Re: David Copperfield
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:00:15 GMT

In article <9805@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu> ferguson@bgsu.edu (Douglas Ferguson) writes:
>From article <1992Apr7.103353.1346@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, by kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (Kreme thats all just K-r-e-m-e):

>> Actually, some of his tricks have relied quite heavily on a carefully
>> placed camera to hide the mirrors under the tables...
>
>God forbid he hide his trick mirrors.  Better to expose all his tricks
>and thereby drain all the entertainment value that MOST viewers tuned
>in for.  Hard to believe, but some people LIKE to be fooled.

Well, I'm a big fan of magic, but I was very dissappointed at the blatant
camera "manipulation" (I won't call them camera tricks) during Copperfield's
special.  There were several instances, during the Collapsing Man trick
and the Brick Wall trick in particular, where the camera would zoom in
just as I was watching for something somewhere else.

A good deal of the skill in magic is in misdirection--getting the audience
to look away from crucial areas at crucial times.  David Copperfield "cheats"
by using the camera angles in place of a skillful misdirection.  It takes no
skill to cut out of the TV picture a spot that the magician should be 
distracting you from by personal skill.  Copperfield uses the camera as a
crutch.

I grant completely that good stage misdirection will not stand up to repeated
slo-mo VCR tape watching, but I fell that that is just one of the problems a
magician must overcome in transforming a stage act into a television show.
Other magicians, particularly Penn & Teller, manage this successfully.

But this doesn't annoy me.  I've seen this camera work on several other 
Copperfield shows, so I've just come to view his control of the camera 
as just a tool of his craft.  When he claims he is not using "camera tricks",
that is just more misdirection, since he just means he isn't using video 
editing.

I generally enjoy his shows, although I got some heavy "Bob Saget" vibes
from him this time.

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From: hrothgar@athena.mit.edu (Katie Hamill)
Subject: Re: Are there any religious T.V. characters?
Keywords: religion
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 07:59:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.004211.20207@symbol.com> larne@symbol.com (Larne Pekowsky) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.213227.22856@comm.wang.com> sde@comm.wang.com (Scott Estabrooks) writes:
>>
>>I found this article in the 3/9/92 issue of Christianity Today:
>>"A study of 100 episodes of network tv revealed
>>1462 total speaking characters
>>  1,381 had no religion
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Is this the way it was stated in the article?  It suggests that it was
mentioned that those characters had no religion, rather than that it
was never mentioned what their religion was, if any.  I'm hard-pressed
to think of TV characters who were atheist, agnostic, or believers who
nonetheless subscribed to no organized religion.  Mike Stivic from
"All in the Family" was an atheist (I think -- he may have been an
agnostic), but that's all I can think of.  I certainly can't think of
a thousand.

>> 51 were Catholic 
>> 21 were Protestant
>> 5 were cult members 
>> 3 were New Agers 
> 
>The net's been able to name at least four Jewish characters, which means
>either CT is doing really sloppy research, or they're using some really 
>strange classification.  (Or they made these numbers up).  
>
>By any chance did they give a more complete breakdown?  In particular, I'd 
>be interested in who they consider 'cult' and 'new agers'.  Apart from 
>that woman from the last season of Head of the Class (and of course Shirley 
>the Loon on Tiny Toon adventures :-) I can't think of any of the latter, 
>and none of the former.  Unless they consider any sort of superstition 
>to be evidence of new agey-ness or cultness, in which case you could 
>probably name a few.
>

Well, there was Dylan's mother and some woman that Brandon met on
"Beverly Hills, 90210."  Both were New Age types, and both were
one-episode characters.  (Lotsa those on 90210.)  Furthermore, on
"Charles in Charge," (do I watch great shows or what?) one of the
girls was tempted to join a cult.  And who knows, they probably did
count Shirley the Loon.

Katie
From: as298@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen E. McGinnis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL:Could someone send me an episode guide?
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:54:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr11.185434.10715
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


I am looking for the Quanum...Quantum Leap episode
guide. I can't download for..from this system.
Can't uudecode either. It has to be in ASCII
format.
If you can....thanks....
Stephen E. McGinnis
as298@Cleveland.Freenet.edu
-- 
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P.O. Box 13314                          Princess Bride
College Station, TX 77840...er 77841
(So many Zip's  ;-) )
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From: gypsy@world.std.com (Meredith Lesly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,alt.config
Subject: Re: The Return of Quantum Leap to r.a.t.
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:27:05 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA


Well, I started watching Quantum Leap (and Northern Exposure, for that matter)
because of the interesting comments here in r.a.t. I thought the reason
that there were standard initials were so that folks who didn't want to read
about a show could kill the messages? QL messages don't seem to be glutting
the airwaves here, after all.
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: RD: REASONABLE DOUBTS
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:06:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <kaschenb.702854922@sfu.ca>, kaschenb@fraser.sfu.ca (Kevin Ernest Aschenbrenner) writes...

} Hey, what's happened to RD? They haven't shown any episodes since the
} two-hour one awhile ago

Yes, they did. The very next week they showed an episode about a battered
wife accused of murdering her abusive husband.

} and it looks like it's been replaced with that new show DATELINE...so
} what's the story?  Does anybody know?

You must not follow this newsgroup very often, if at all, as it's been
discussed here already. REASONABLE DOUBTS is on hiatus, both to await
renewal decision and to make room for some spring tryout series.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Subject: Re: NEXP:  Any more new episodes coming this season?
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:33:46 GMT

According to Andy Bates' episode guide, there are at least 3-4 more
episodes to go this season. I think next week is another repeat, but
original episodes will return after that. After all, May is a sweeps
month and CBS would be foolish to show reruns of one of its most
popular series.

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SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA -- (713) 527-4939
From: pbertsch@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Peggy Bertsch)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:56:12 GMT
Subject: Re: carson's last show ?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv

For some reason, May 22nd sticks in my mind...

BTW, can someone give me the scoop on how you go about getting tickets to 
the show (not the last one, just one between now and then...)?  Even if it's
just first-come-first-serve at the NBC studios, where *exactly* do you go and
what time does the line generally start forming?  And can you call ahead to 
find out what guests are scheduled for a given date, and whether 
Johnny is hosting?


E-mail appreciated...

Thanks,

-peg

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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeff Neau)
Subject: Re: SNL: 4/11/92
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:05:56 CDT

In article <1992Apr13.143916.3084@eplrx7.es.duPont.com> walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker) writes:
>Well, it certainly was good to see Wayne's World back on the show.  I thought
>they were "protecting" it for some reason and would never show it again.
>Very funny, too.  

"The hand that rocks the cradle will be rockin' something else tonight!"

>In fact, I thought the whole show was a lot better than
>it has been in months.  Flippy the flipping Chihuahua getting run over by
>Toonces the driving cat, who in turn drives over the cliff AGAIN, even w
>with his 2  nieces and nephew in the car!  What a hoot! (or meow)  Sharon
>Stone did a good job too, and I thought the guest appearance of Jon Lovitz
>was excellent- "Did I mention I have a penis?" ha ha!

The show is a lot more enjoyable when they have a real actor/actress on the
show instead of someone who can't act.  'Mike' Jordan sucked.  He played
himself in everyskit.  However, now that I think about it, Sting and MCHammer
weren't that bad...  I guess it depends on the attitude of the guest and how
much he/she gets involved.  My favorite so far was the one with Christian
Slater.  (The night-club skit was hilarious!!!!)

>   On the bad side, the news stunk again.  It's not the writing, it's the
>delivery.  Kevin Nealon does such a bad job.  And I though Pearl Jam was
>terrible, but maybe that's just my taste in music.  But haven't we had 
>enought of these thrash metal bands on the show?  

He's been getting better lately, but he sucked on the last one...
He must have some problem reading the cue cards.  He just doesn't look
relaxed up there!  He tries to read the jokes too fast.

>   Next week should be really good with Jerry Sienfield as the guest-I think
>he is very funny.
>Until next week...
>scott
 Lookin forward to it.  I wish they wouldn't rerun so many of their home-made
commercials, however....


Jeffrey Neau
From: 880691c@ace.acadiau.ca (MATT CUNDILL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MST3K: What happened to Fri. morning showing?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:12:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Acadia University

In article <54288@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1111a@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox) writes:
>From: gt1111a@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox)
>Subject: MST3K: What happened to Fri. morning showing?
>Date: 11 Apr 92 17:49:56 GMT

>Oh well, at least I finally got to see Side Hackers today.
>You know Clay and Frank are truly evil, EVIL!

Sidehackers!!! Probably the most evil thing we have been forced to watch 
from the mads. It is truly THE most overbaked movie concept. "How come we 
don't have hamburgers? You know I love hamburgers!" - Romel

"Romel, why won't you ride with me, we can make a lot of money on the 
circuit."- J.C.

"I bet you've never seen me so happy before?"-Romel
"Yeah, but you didn't know I was watching." -Joel

You might also notice that the guy who played J.C. (Michael Patiki??) 
guested on an episode of WKRP as a defecting Russian. 

MATT CUNDILL	ACADIA UNIVERSITY	WOLFVILLE, NOVA SCOTIA.
From: sally@romana.Tymnet.COM (Sally 'Lucky Bitch' Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "It's a Wonderful Leap": small observation
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:33:56 GMT
Organization: You rang?

In article <1992Apr11.050314.3476@midway.uchicago.edu> rck1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>A really tiny and inconsequential observation about "IaWL," but I
>figure I may as well mention it anyway...

>(Sorry, no ^L. Unless someone could tell me a way to use it with vi?)
Yeah. Start using emacs. :-) Here's one for you, though...


>glimpse of Al's shoe. Thanks to my VCR's wonderful capacity for
>resolution (NOT!), it looked to me like he was wearing a pair of
>white sneakers. Sally, didn't you mention once that Dean sometimes
>just wears sneakers on the set?

Yup, when Dean's feet aren't supposed to be in the shot, he just
wears white hi-tops. Standing around all day on a soundstage is one of
the most uncomfortable things you can do and good shoes are a Good Thing.
It probably wasn't worth reframing the shot or doing another take just
so Al would be wearing the right shoes--especially an action scene
like that.

>And while we're on the subject of trivial observations, in "Moments
>to Live" (no real spoilers), in one scene where Al is pacing
>nervously back and forth behind Sam, I'm almost positive I saw Dean
>bump against him at one point. And they weren't even on a plane :-)

Oh, you probably did. But everyone's totally brain-dead that time of
year. And the budget starts getting a smidge tight and the MCA suits
start grumbling at the QL people if they have too many extra takes and
start running over budget, and then Harker Wade has to go down to the
set and frown [and if you've never seen Harker's "We're over budget"
frown, let me tell ya, it is a fearsome thing :-)] and it's not worth
reshooting just 'cause maybe Dean ran into Scott.

Basically, it's the money thing.

>Oh, well. Back to more earth-shaking matters...
What, you mean there ARE more earth-shaking matters? ;-)

Sally
[read my .sig :-)]
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"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"
From: jen@athena.mit.edu (Jennifer Hawthorne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: The Finale?
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:24:43 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr16.210229.16299@morrow.stanford.edu> hf.zmf@forsythe.stanford.edu (Miriam Ferziger) writes:


SPOILERS -- Can't do ^L, sorry.











>
>Oh, and by the way, Tom Selleck is promoting his new movie on The Tonight Show
>tonight.  Who knows, maybe he'll mention Leap??

Maybe, but I kind of doubt it. AFter all, if Sam jumps into Tom
Selleck, the most we'll actually get to see of Tom himself is a few
mirror shots. We'll never get to see Tom doing anything (Am I right
that it's Tom himself Sam will be Leaping into, and not someone else
on the set?).   Is there any word about whether any of the other
regulars from Magnum are going to be doing guest shots on this episode
(Like John HIllerman, for example)? 

Jen H.
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