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From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Finally...Jackson's outta here!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:02:59 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <BILLMS.92Sep29111738@quip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>In article <2474@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:
>
>There was some talk a few weeks ago about Robert Clark starting for Miami
>with one of the Marks being injured.  I think that is proof enough that they
>don't have enough receiving depth.  I like Robert, but he's not a top notch
>talent by any means.

Well, actually Tony Martin is starting for Miami in place of Clayton,
with Clark being the third wide-out and Banks the fourth.  Martin is
still learning and doesn't jump like Clayton, but he is faster.

>More to the point, Jackson is generally (but certainly not universally)
>regarded as the #2 TE, with he and Green a solid notch above the others.
>Miami might not be weak at TE, but I don't understand why anybody, other than
>perhaps the steelers, would pass up a chance to at least try and woo a
>premier player like Jackson.

I don't see anything wrong with picking up Jackson if they have the
money and the place on the roster.  But I think that they'd be better
served to spend the money somewhere else.  

>If they trade him, its not a waste, now is it?  They pay his salary for a
>year, get his services for much of that year, and pick up at a *minimum* a #2
>in exchange.  Sounds like a good investment to me.

Well, we'll see, won't we ? 8-)   But unless he plays up to pro-bowl
level, they probably won't be able to get enough to make it
worthwhile.

But who knows?  I could be wrong - and I'll be the first to eat my
words if I am.  I know Jackson has been a terrific player for Philly
in the past and could be great for Miami in the future.

--
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Harbaugh Gets Ass Chewing
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:04:51 GMT
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In <16877A678.S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> Joe writes:

> Any comments on this?

  Just one:  Why bother creating audibles if you're gonna jump the QB when
he calls one?  Yeah, the pass was INT, but that can happen anytime.  Ditka
was probably just in a bad mood, but I think it shows a complete lack of
sense if he lets it stand (not to mention class).


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Predictions, anyone?
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <27000111@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes...
>Eagles vs Bills


	Useless post.  Really.

Jonny B.
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bring on the FISH / witty Miami fans
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:21:09 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <16873C8CC.TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann) writes:
>       This will be the only way that the 'Fins will win. Divine
>intervention.

Well, then, I suppose that we had all better bow down before God and
her prophet, Don Shula.  And we had better heed the words of Shula's
disciples: Tom Olivadotti, Dan Marino, Keith Jackson, Louis Oliver,
Brian Cox and 40 or so other guys in aqua and orange.

> Here's to a great game on sunday, if you are a Bills fan.
>
>Tom Steegmann

Gee, thats funny! I wouldn't have thought that a Bill's fan would have
considered the game on Sunday "great", unless they were all secretly
Miami Fans in their hearts.  Maybe that's *it*, then!  All Bills fans
secretly *love* the Dolphins!  

Thanks for pointing that out to me, Tom.  I guess the Bills fans
aren't so bad after all! ;^)

--
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Crowd Noise Rule
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:37:41 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems

In article <69368@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
>Subject: Crowd Noise Rule
>Date: 29 Sep 92 19:27:52 GMT


>IMHO, the crowd noise rule is THE SINGLE WORST rule the National Football League
>has EVER had, bar none!  There is NO reason for it!  After all, its a FOOTBALL
>game for crying out loud, not a tennis match or a round of golf!  If they want
>quiet, let them go to the library.  That rule goes entirely against the spirit
>and intention of the home-field advantage.  If your fans are so loud and so
>exuberant that they can hassle the qb by making it impossible for his receivers
>to hear plays being called, GOOD!  Congratulations!  Those fans should be 
>commended for being so loyal.  If the other teams HATE playing in your stadium
>because they know that the crowd will be loud and when they reach the endzone,
>they can't hear anything, GOOD!  That's the idea.  As for fans, throwing things,
>this is ENTIRELY different.  As far as I know, nothing that a fan would be 
>allowed to bring into a stadium, or that he could buy at the stadium and could
>be thrown onto the field makes a noise when it is thrown or when it lands that
>is so loud it drowns out the calls.  Therefore, the issues of crowd noise and
>throwing things on the field are totally separate!  If they are loud, fine.
>If they throw things, simply remove the offending party from the game.  A
>repeat performance at a later game revokes season tickets, and a third time
>gets them banned from the stadium.  It's that easy.  But, just because they
>are making 8
>are making ALOT of noise does not automatically mean that they are going to
>also throw things.  Like you said, this rule is seldom used, but the mere fact
>that it exists is a travesty!  Of course, this is just MHO.  :)
>-- 


Can someone give a brief description of the ruling on crowd noise...  When 
was the last time it was used? and on which team?  Is it a penalty? The 
domes are supposed to be the loudest because of the acoustics, correct?  


Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Miami is all hype....
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:36:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Oct06.153659.30555
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct5.203320.28522@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>Remember last year when K.C. beat Buffalo, there was a lot of hype.....
>Buffalo came back and beat K.C. .....Buffalo in the Super Bowl.
>
>Remember two years back when Miami beat Buffalo, there was a lot of hype..
>Buffalo came back and beat Miami ...Buffalo in the Super Bowl.
>
>A Miami loss this week would put the Doll fans in second..... 
>assuming this Buffalo team beats L.A.

Remember a few years back when Miami beat Buffalo TWICE and went undefeated??
Hey, you want to use history to make a point, so can I...
A loss this weekend only puts the Dolphins in second because of games played.
That half-game is pretty useless, because if they beat the Pats (oh dear)
in the make-up game, they could end up tied with the Bills.  Know what that
means???  Bills in second..

>You better just worry about making the playoffs, especially since 
>you sucked in the first few games of the season.

We sucked????  Knock Knock... Hello...  The Dolphins are 4-0.  Not the
4 in the win column and the 0 in the loss column.  Now, please define
"sucked", as they obviously haven't lost yet.  Now, let's rediscuss
the word "sucked" and talk about your Bills... 4-1, again note the
win column, but now let's look at the loss column.. Opps... Sorry..
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From: assad@sparc4.cs.uiuc.edu (Andrew Assad)
Subject: Re: #1 Ranked Offense/ Defense
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:41:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.210732.28691@bert.eecs.uic.edu> maswindy@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Xiaomu Zeng) writes:
>In article <90263@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>>  .....       Also, what was the closest game the 1972 Dolphins played?
>
>   24-23 against BUFFALO BILLS.
>
>   Anyone saw that game? Was it as close as the score indicated?
>

I saw this game as a young lad of seven years. This game introduced my naive,
innocent football mind to the concept of "biased officiating" (i.e. cheating
on the part of the officials, perhaps as a result of a rather large payment
made by Coach Shula to whoever was the referee). 

The game was every bit as close as the score indicated. In fact, the Bills
could have easily won the game were it not for a most disgraceful non-fumble
call made by the officials which preserved a Miami drive. The image of
Mercury Morris upended four feet in the air with the ball so CLEARLY out of 
his grasp that even Helen Keller would have ruled it a fumble is etched
permanently in my mind, an ugly scar left on my impressionable young psyche.
The ref ruled that he was down...

Alas, this would only be a portent of things to come as throughout the decade
the usually woeful Bills team would consistently have to face not only the
hallowed Dolphins and their bloated... oops I mean "beloved"... coach, but
also the squad of zebras on the field who always managed to make just the
right calls at the right time to ensure a Miami victory. 

Andy Assad
assad@cs.uiuc.edu

No, I'm not bitter...      :-)
From: ka0k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Karim Edvard Ahmed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikes for real
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:21:06 GMT
	<1aq239INNiu9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I feel that the Minnesota Vikings have found the one element that hes
been missing from their game plans over the last five years: desire. 
While this years team may not be as talented as it was three years ago,
it still posesses some enormous potential, as has been seen the last
three weeks.  In a division as weak as the NFC Central, the Vikings
appear to be the one team with the ability to run away with the title,
and advance beyond the first round of the playoffs.  Of course, it is
still very early in the season, and greater challenges lie ahead. 
Perhaps the Vikes will turn out to be this year's surprise team, as the
Minnesota Twins were one year ago.
-KEA
From: fout@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Fout - RMS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Schedule
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:14:14 GMT
Reply-To: fout@achilles.gsfc.nasa.gov
Organization: RMS



COuld somebody post a full 28 team 1992 schedule???

thanks...
From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #5 (NOTE WEIGHTS)
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:22:39 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Week 5
------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 3 different games.
	 You get 10 points for free since there are only 12 games.

This form is due at 10 am PST (5 pm GMT) on Sunday, Oct 4.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] Indianapolis		[ ] Tampa Bay   
[  ] [ ] Chicago		[ ] Minnesota        
[  ] [ ] Green Bay		[ ] Atlanta        
[  ] [ ] New Orleans		[ ] Detroit      
[  ] [ ] Miami			[ ] Buffalo            
[  ] [ ] LA Rams		[ ] San Francisco    
[  ] [ ] NY Giants		[ ] LA Raiders     
[  ] [ ] Washington		[ ] Phoenix       
[  ] [ ] Kansas City		[ ] Denver       
[  ] [ ] Seattle		[ ] San Diego        
[  ] [ ] New England		[ ] NY Jets      
[  ] [ ] Dallas			[ ] Philadelphia      
                               
Initials: 

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Subject: Bills/Pats Game Stats
From: sport@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:17:13 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

BUFFALO BILLS STATS WK 4

Team
Buffalo Bills (4-0)

Game Stats
        
          Buffalo         New England*
Pts         41                7
Rush      40-182            25-69
PassAtt   15-20-0          24-33-1
PassYrd     308              196
Fum-Lost    2-1              2-2
Poss       30:01            29:59

Passing
Kelly           15-20-0 308 3P
Reich            0-0-0    0

Rushing
Thomas          18-120 T
Davis           10-39
Gardner          5-17
Fuller           2-9
Kelly            1-1
Reich           4-(-4)

Receiving
Reed            9-168 T
Lofton          4-113 2T
Thomas          2-27

Kicking
Christie        2F (42,30) 5X

Game Summary
New England had the ball for 20:03 in the first half, but trailed 6-0.
Buffalo took control in the second half, had the ball for 20:04, Scored five
times and destroyed the Pats.

MJHeil
sport.vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 10:41:21 CET
From: RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Divisional statistics, week 4

Enjoy,

Divisional statistics for week  4
---------------------------------
           All games     Outside div.
AFC East     2-2            1-1
AFC Central  1-3            1-3
AFC West     2-3            1-2

NFC East     0-0            0-0
NFC Central  4-1            3-0
NFC West     2-2            1-1

AFC - NFC matchups for week  4
------------------------------
AFC - NFC     0 - 3

Cumulative divisional statistics up to week  4 (including)
----------------------------------------------------------
             All games     Outside div.
AFC East     8-9            6-7   (0.4615)
AFC Central  9-7            8-6   (0.5714)
AFC West     7-13           2-8   (0.2000)

NFC East     9-6            5-2   (0.7143)
NFC Central 11-9            5-3   (0.6250)
NFC West     8-8            6-6   (0.5000)

Cumulative AFC - NFC matchups up to week  4 (including)
-------------------------------------------------------
AFC - NFC     3 - 8

Rene Zandbergen, RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET, 'RCZ'
From: stu@voodoo.boeing.com (Stuart Liddle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: status of Nagle and Haynes
Keywords: Nagel Haynes
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:58:30 GMT
Reply-To: stu@voodoo.boeing.com
Organization: BoGart System

In article <1992Sep25.180924.21300@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, msb2f@csissun11.ee.Virginia.EDU (Michael Scott Brown) writes:
|> 
|> 	Nagle's starting, Haynes is out.
|> 
	Haynes is out.  Does this mean that he's on IR or just nursing his
  sore shoulder on the sidelines while Andre does his thing??

	When is Haynes coming back?
-- 
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From: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dangerous Dan
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:50:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncar.1992Oct2.185055.26205
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO

as> Ashish Sagar

as> Whether Dan breaks records or Moon does, whats the point unless they can
    carry their team to the Super Bowl and win it?

  1) The Super Bowl is only one game.
  2) The Super Bowl has only been around since 1966. Lots of good QBs have
     never had a chance to play in it.
  3) The best QB in the world isn't going to singlehandedly take an entire
     team of lousy players to the Super Bowl and win it. One excellent play-
     er and 21 crappy ones don't get very far.
  4) A mediocre QB on a really good team can get to the Super Bowl and be a
     part of the win. That was the knock against Rypien last season. Give a
     QB an excellent running back, offensive line, receivers and defense, and
     he can't help but win.

as> Thats where QBs like Montana and Kelly (though not won a super bowl but
    taken the Bills twice there) outshine and stand way above Qbs only break-
    ing records.  These are the QBs that one can say are premiere QBs and
    dangerous Qbs. 

  Ha. Is Joe Namath a better QB than John Elway, because B'way Joe won it all
  of *once*, but Elway's been in (well, there at least) the SB three times?
  Is Jim McMahon a better QB than Dan Fouts was, because he was lucky enough
  to be on the '85 Bears team?

  Believe it or not, the Super Bowl is not the Alpha and Omega of football.

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From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:37:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Sunday's key matchup
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>Cofer - worth a TD to the Saints.
>N.Ramasubramanian          	GO BREWERS ! GO !    

Final score: S. F. 16, N. O. 10
Cofer's three FG's provided the margin of difference, including a
critical 42-yarder in the 4th quarter that cleared the uprights by
several yards.  If this is an omen of a return to Cofer's pre-1991
form, the 'Niners will once again be tough to beat in close games.

- Gary Rosen
From: newson@sequent.com (Newson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers/Saints
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:15:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Sep30.201530.13928
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <1992Sep30.184810.15204@cs.tulane.edu> buckley@cs.tulane.edu (James Buckley) writes:
>In article <nq+pklf.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.032441.28570@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>>
>>>To the refs' credit : the Saints' linebackers got called for offsides
>>>several times in the game, deservedly so (i.e., even *I* screamed
>>>"***O-F-F-S-I-D-E-S***" as the play started). And I think they got away
>>
>>I agree that the officiating sucked big time, but I wonder if those
>>apparent but uncalled offsides were optical illusions on the TV viewer.
>>Given that the Niners' linemen couldn't hear the snapcount, and that
>>they can't watch the center as easily as a LB can, it's quite possible
>>that the Aints' LBs were simply getting jumps on the ball faster than
>>the Niners' line were.  To a TV viewer who can't really see the center,
>>this would look like offsides, as the LB is across the line of scrimmage
>>before you see the OL move.
>>
>
>"optical illusions" ... ha ha ha ... gimme a break!  I find it interesting
>that the Niner's win and people (and I use that term loosely) are still
>whining about this and that.  (maybe this is fallout from the Bills game :-)
>I've heard of sore losers, but "sore winners"???  Oh well, till we meet
>again ...

Flip this around a bit. The Saints win dispite terrible officiating such as
we witnessed Sunday night. I find it hard to believe that you would sit on
your hands and not complain a bit. This complaining is justified, the ref's
suck!

-newson

>
>
>- Jim
>GO SAINTS!!!
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Dolphins win a big one...
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:54:41 GMT

In article <BvMEu2.7q3@acsu.buffalo.edu> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations) writes:
>Some comments from today's game:
>
>Marino was better than I've seen him in 3 years at Rich Stadium. He
>got some unbelievable balls away when defenders were in his face. I'm
>damn lucky to be able to sit and witness something like that in person.
>Wow.
>
Well, you might be lucky, but the Bills certainly weren't.  :-)
>
>Kelly was on another planet.  It seems like he does this once a year
>during the regular season now.  Go figure.  It's amazing how he can
>go 3-4 weeks playing like he's the greatest QB ever, then drop a big
>egg. It reminds me of some of the goofy games Randall Cunningham has
>played. Football is a strange game indeed.
>
Give Kelly some credit, there are still more games left.
>
>I've just about given up on Walt Corey. His defensive philosophy is
>just plain bad. He cannot seem to ebb and flow with a game and make
>the necessary calls to help his players get it done. Each individual
>player (with the exception of a few in the secondary) seem to put
>out maximum effort, but the schemes just plain fail.  The way Miami
>hit the RB's coming out of the backfield consistently today reminds
>me of the bootleg-to-the-left play that the Giants used against
>Buffalo in SB XXV. Walt Corey seemed to have no answer for it, just
>like the SB.
>
Let us not blame Corey, he wasn't playing. The Dolphins were
unstoppable today. I believe they could have beaten just
about any team today.  The Bills were just out played.
Simple.
>
>Think about it Bills fans - the games where we see our defense play 
>great is almost always because of some personal feats of athleticism,
>not because of some superior system.
>
Good point.
>
>As far as coaches go: I think we got our answer about who made the
>smart move with the DL coach. I'll take Mean Joe Greene any day.
>Although the Miami line didn't out physical our OL, they played
>very smart, tough football - a sure sign of good coaching.
>
Another good point. Hmmm, are you sure you're a Bills fan?
>
>I think Gale Gilbert summed up this game pretty well:
>
>"The Bills are kind of like kids. It seems we need to get our asses
>spanked once a year, just to keep us straight."
>
They got it kicked, as Kelly said on TV after the game.
>
>This game was as bad as that K.C. game last year. The only thing
>a Bills fan can take heart in is that we had an answer for K.C.
>later on last year when it really counted. Let's hope we do the 
>same to Miami.
>
>
>Doug
>
Well, I am impressed Doug. You actually were objective in
your analysis of this game. :-) I hope the rest of the
Bills fans follow suit.
-- 
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