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From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Disappearance:  Which...?  When...? 
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:09:10 GMT

Banubharathi's following poem appears in the latest issue of the Suvadukal
from Norway.  Day to day life .....!

-----------------------			-----------------------------
eppOthu? ethu maRaiyum?			when?  which would disappear?
-----------------------			-----------------------------

pasi, maraNam, avalam			hunger, death, distress
thuppaakki, vedikuNdu, saampal		gun, bomb, ash

seththavarkaL pOka 			leaving the dead 
maRRavarkaL				others
maRainthukoNdanar			hide

vedichchaththankaL			one or two heads
Oyvedukkum kaNankaLil			appear in the road
onRiraNdu thalaikaL			when the 
veethiyil iRankum			explosions relax

meeNdum					again
udalkaLaip pOdduviddu			leaving the bodies behind
uyirkaL Odi maRainthukoLLum		souls run away
uyiroduLLa udalkaLin			silent lamentation
mounamaana oppaari			of bodies with souls
theruviLimpil				slowly spread around
mella mella oornthuvarum

pisaasukaL niRaintha iruL		darkness of ghosts
poomiyaith thinRukoNdirukka		eats the earth
kaaRRu saamparaich chumanthukoNdu	wind hides inside the
mukilukkuL maRainthukoLLum		clouds with the ash it carries

munpu					those days
manitharkaL maddum			only people
maRainthukoNdanar			disappeared
pin					then
kanavukaL maRainthukoNdana		dreams disappeared	

ippo					now
kanavukaLodu				with dreams
manithankaLum maRainthupOyina		humanity also disappeared

eppOthu					which would disappear	
ethu thalaimaRaivaakumenpathu		and when
theerkkatharisanankaLukkum		is beyond 
adankaathavai				even prophecy

makimaippaduka! makimaippaduka!		glorify! glorify!
maNNE! makimaippaduka!			oh world! glorify!
mariththa manitharkaLin puNNiyaththaal	let the souls of the
puthakuLiyil iLaippaaRuka!		dead people rest in graves!

++
The Suvadukal 		(suvadukaL)
Herslebs GT 43
0578, Oslo 5
Norway
++

Note: The above is posted here only as a piece of literature.

Vicky:
UMass, Sep 15
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: DEFENCE - Following the Wrong footsteps?
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:32:28 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal) writes:
: India seem to be following suit. I do realise the importance of
: defence, and the need to annihilate Pakisthan if we are attacked or
: if their support for 'terroism' continues, but we might be going
: down the wrong direction with our talent(as the U.S. or U.S.S.R.).
: 
: Any comments?
Absolutely there is no need for India to concentrate 'too much'
on defence. Its sufficient to have enough military power to tackle
Pakistan(I don't think there is any danger from China). But,
seemingly India spends(in the process loosing; Bofors case) huge
money on defence deals. This is ridiculous, taking into
consideration the fact that it can't become a military super power
in the world. So, India should stop going around to aquire military
equipment.

On a different note, I don't like these *Indian Jawaans* at all.
These fellows are very arrogant and think that they can do
whatever they wish.I am not sure of their sacrifises, but I know
that they enjoy a lot, ---free food, free alcohol and whatnot.
I just give two examples: I saw these fellows literally looting
food-stalls in a railway station. They thought its their right
to just take whatever they want. Second insident is that these
f***ers used to drive their jeeps and trucks on Madras roads
so carelessly that they killed quite few pedestrians and damaged
many more vehicles.

---Sree
: John Ainikkal                                     
: 'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov. (Pradip R. Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking out for Manish Shah
Date: 11 Sep 1992 20:21:57 GMT
Reply-To: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov.
Organization: G.E. Government Services

Hi, I am looking out for Manish Shah (VJTI, 1977 Batch).  I believe he has completed
his Ph.D from the Univ. of Wisconsin at Madison.  If anyone know about his whereabouts,
please e-mail to me at    nas_ps@gepr02.jsc.nasa.gov.

Thanks.

Pradip Shah
From: kavuri@lips1.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why can't Indian girls be more outgoing
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:13:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep12.184132.14870@cs.wayne.edu>, uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
> In article <92255.125907U54904@uicvm.uic.edu> U54904@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> >Ever noticed how Indian guys and girls just do not socialize . Why is it that
> >takes a year before you can hold a decent conversation with a desi female witho
> >ut having her run off to do some work.
> 
> 
> >Comments expected.
> Of course comments expected.
> 
> 
> >Mohan Putcha                             No I am not another
> 
> Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma

   Seriously, guys: if you stop whining and spend less time complaining 
   on the newsgroups, you may actually get somewhere.  Ever wondered if
   the girls might think the same way about you ?

             
   Get a life.


     

  FIAT LUX
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vreddy@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Venugopal Reddy)
Subject: FOR STUDENTS ONLY / NEED APPLICATION FORMS
Originator: vreddy@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:15:45 GMT

SUB : NEED APPLICATION FORMS FOR M.S IN BIOCHEMISTRY / MICROBIOLOGY.

Hi, 
My brother is planning to come to States in the fall'1993 for M.S in 
Biochemistry, Could you please have the graduate school of your college 
send him an application form. I am giving his address below.  Thanks,



Address:

Raghuram Reddy
16-9-817/37,
Old Malakpet,
Hyderabad - 500036
India.
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From: kavuri@lips2.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Fixation with Tall, dark handsome types
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:37:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep10.000043.133420@ua1ix.ua.edu>, ngopalas@ha15.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
> 
> Also on a side note, almost all of the interracial marriages in the US seem to
> be between black males and white women. I have only heard of one case (David
> Bowie and Iman) which is the reverse. Isn't this a bit curious?
> 
> Nath.

   Not all that amazing.   You seem to attribute this to black males being
   tall, dark and handsome.  Why can't it be that blacks have a liking for
    white women instead.  Many of the famous blacks have either white 
    wives or women(blacks) who are fair.

   it also could be that people just like what is exotic.


    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: I'm depressed
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:22:03 GMT


guys and gals :

i am really depressed. why did everyone suddenly stop talking about me
and also posting about me. don't you think all the other posts are
very boring.

Love ( rajesh: no offence intended )
Suresh
From: dcruz@andy.bgsu.edu (Don't Explain!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SONIA SIGHTED AT NUDIST BEACH IN RIO
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:48:49 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.

Here are some of the headlines (from all over the world) collected by the
SONIA WATCHERS CLUB:

******************************************************************************
API Report, September 5th, 1992:

SONIA sighted at Nudist beach in Rio (Brazil).

Noted SCI celebrity was seen frolicking in the buff at a little known beach
in southern Rio de Janerio. With her was an unidentified stilted male.  Informedsources later identified the man as Michael Jackson wearing a halloween mask and
nothing else. Michael's publicity officer has denied Michael was wearing a mask
and insists it was his natural face flushed with excitement from his tryst with
the beautiful and voluptous SONIA. 

******************************************************************************
National Inquirer Report, September 6th, 1992:

Sonia is going to be the mother of my child, reveals Michael Jackson.

Music celebrity, Michael Jackson, noted for his plastic face and hip gyrations
has seemingly made the Mother of all Hip Gyrations.  After a weekend of fun
and debauchery at a beach resort in southern Rio de Janerio with the noted
SCI celebrity, Sonia (of stilted Indian male fame), sources who prefer to
remain anonymous claim that Sonia has been having the Mother of all
morning sickness. Reached at the beach resort, Michael refusing  to elaborate
commented " The child will be born with a silver spoon in his mouth and a
plastic mask on his face"

Weekender Report, September 7th, 1992:

A Labor of love, Michael and Sonia add new meaning to Labor Day celebrations.

.............................

LIVE FROM BOWLING GREEN, THIS IS SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE ................. with
host .... DON'T EXPLAIN ....

HHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS BBBBBBBBAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKK

******************************************************************************
-- 
Conrad D'Cruz (dcruz@bgsu.edu)   | Q: Why are there Blonde jokes?
Student Systems Programmer       | A: So that Brunettes and Red-heads have
Bowling Green State University   |    something to do on weekends!
From: krishnan@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why can't Indian girls be more outgoing
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:07:47 GMT
Reply-To: krishnan@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Balasubramanian)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Sep11.212538.16049@Firewall.Nielsen.Com> mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota) writes:
>Seriously, I think the society from where they came, never really 
>enouraged them, doesn't currently encourage them and has no plans to
>change, to take care of themselves by themselves and for themselves .
>The typical Indian girl I know relies on her parents, brothers, or
>some male support to find a match for her. Marriage is their salvation
>and virginity is their karma. They much rather con themselves into
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>thinking that life begins after marriage. Life may begin all right,
>but chances are it is not as good as they dream. But hey I am not a
>pessimist. Indian babes will date when pigs fly.
>
>
>Murthy

Perhaps you would consider your statements by wondering why, in fact, it is
so. The males, ever the domineering type, force the women to 'conform' to
their 'moral' standards. This is THE reality, let US not be conned into
thinking that it is the women that con themselves.

May I submit that your statements sound too callous to be taken seriously, 
even if intended otherwise. They also reek of the stereotypical 
male-chauvinist sentiment.
                            Krishnan
--
********************************************************************
  B. Krishnan                        Department of Physics and SCRI
(904)-644-9755 ( off. )              Florida State University 
                                     Tallahassee FL 32306
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bbanerje@lark.utah.edu (Alpha Centauri)
Subject: Nursery Rhymes et al and Parents role in Graduate Students' lives
Keywords: nursery rhymes
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:24:08 GMT

In article <21838@optima.cs.arizona.edu> srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan) writes:
>	Srikanth
>
>PS: Well fellas the joke is over. Have u ever realised how much of ur valuable
>time u waste reading SCI?? Is that what ur parents sent u here for? Waste time.
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>HAHAHA just kidding. SCI has now started discussing nursery rhymes!!!
>



   Did YOUR parents send you here ? Just intrigued ... you said you were
   22 years old.  I was under the false impression that people at that 
   age decide whether they want to go anywhere or not.. and are not sent
   by their parents.

   Could you give me some statistics on the percentage on people who come
   "here" after being "sent" by their parents ?

   BB



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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:30586 ba.general:3671
From: sujata@infinity.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,ba.general,ba.misc.wanted,ba.housing
Subject: Looking for a female roomate in Bay Area
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:48:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM, Austin



Looking for a nonsmoking female professional roommate in Cupertino/
Sunnyvale/Santa Clara area to share a 2 BR., 2 BA. apt.

If interested contact Jyothy Reddy at:
		408/447-5297 (W)   (messages)
		408/738-7003 (R)  
		jreddy@cup.hp.com

---------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: akg0819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nall'a Paiyan)
Subject: Re: NEED TO SEND MONEY HOME - LOOKING FOR SOMEONE DEALING IN DOLLARS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:37:29 GMT

rajeev@cory.Berkeley.EDU (RAJEEV K. RANJAN) writes:


>I want to send some money to India. I was told by someone that there is some
>agency in US, which takes dollars from you and gives you a much higher conversion
>rate than you can get with RBI or SBI in India. If anybody knows about this person,
>or the agency please reply to this mail.
>Thanks,

Some random musings....

Ever wonder what these "havala" agencies want the dollars for?

Where do the "athankawadi"s get the dollar/hard currency to buy 
weapons?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign (AKHAND BHARAT)
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:51:37 GMT


>>raj@utkvx3.utk.edu () writes....
>indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes...
>
>>   To turn around this situation many reformers like Dayananda, RamaKrishna,
>>   Raja Rama Mohan Roy started chastising this society.
>
>Shri Ramakrishna was not a reformer. He was a living religion. He did not try
>to convert any section of the people. By living as a Vedhanthin, a Muslim, and
>a Christian, he realized that Oneness. He proved that one can realize God in
>whatever path he chooses to follow. Only condition is the realization that God
>lives in everything, the matter and the animate. To say he was a reformer is a
>denigration.

    Who is a reformer? Is he a person whose activities are limited to SOCIAL
    reforms? I had intentionally included RamaKrishna as a reformer. He was
    a religious reformer. To that society which was lost in silly practices 
    and believed them as the true sense of religion, RamaKrishhna practiced 
    and preached the true Vedhantha. And had created a messenger of his
    Ideals in Swami Vivekananda whose activities and social reforms are 
    well known.

    In case my above sentence is misleading, my this view should clear that off.

-Indu
From: amadhusu@HP-UX (A MADHUSUDAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Looking for M.N.Sheshagiri Rao-H'Bad
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:49:43 GMT

Could you please give more details about the person whom you are looking for
and your full name?

There is one Mr.Seshagiri Rao working now in the same company as I am in
California U.S.A.  Probably it could be the person who you are looking for
and he is also from H'bad.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jcc@engr.uark.edu (CHARYULU JAYALAKSHMI CHIL)
Subject: Just to say Hi to everybody
Keywords: Hi
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:47:09 GMT

This is the first time I am posting a news on this network.
Please somebody tell me how to subscribe to INDIA DIGEST
news group on the network.     
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: arvindv@fraser.sfu.ca (Arvind Verma)
Subject: autonomy for states
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:28:08 GMT

The problem of giving provincial governments more power is not the only issue
in this debate. Decentralization of decision making is required at much lower 
down the level too. It is amazing to see the state politicians denouncing the 
central government for keeping most of the powers- although what these are
have never really been spelled out by them. The same bunch have never cared to 
share their own powers with the local leaders- in municialities and panchayats
Most of the state governments have not cared to hold regular elections to these
bodies for more than a decade now. The last panchayat elections in Bihar were
held in 1977. In any case very little power, administrative responsibilities
and revenue generation avenues have been given to them. Accordingly, most 
decisions are made not only in Delhi but also in Hyderabad, Patna, Lucknow
Calcutta, Aizal and so on. Local people have very little say in their own affairs and their own circumstances. The case of Narmada dam and Bhopal are classic
examples of decisions being made elsewhere. 
No autonomy for states will serve any purpose unless further decentralization
is brought about. The present bunch functutioning in the states is unlikely
to share its powers even if Delhi does so. Moreover, at present it also looks
dangerous to give power to the states- imagine the likes of Lallo Yadav, Jaya
Lalita and NTR going unrestrained!!
From: avij@usc.edu (Anu Vij)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR KANIKA GUPTA
Date: 8 Sep 1992 13:42:14 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun63.usc.edu

 I am Anu Vij looking for Kanika Gupta.As far i know she is supposed to persue her Masters/Ph.d. in Chemical Engineering at Cornell University from Fall,92.

 Any one who knews the whereabouts of Kanika can send me email at avij@aludra.usc.edu.
 
 Thanks in advance.

                                        ANU  VIJ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: armally@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (arvind mally)
Subject: Re: Why the world should be grateful to the USA!!
Reply-To: armally@PacBell.COM (arvind mally)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:55:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep08.214728.23672@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> horne@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM (Tim Horne) writes:
>I have recently subscribed to soc.culture.indian.  After reviewing
>many of the articles posted to this group, I have the following
>statements to make:
>
>       The USA is great!!  The world should be thankful to
>       them for keeping the peace and new world order 
>       especially in the Middle East. 

 Agree with you that USA is great.  Now let us keep internal peace i.e fight the drug menace, poverty, crime, homelessness, fund schools etc..etc. Let us
solve our own problems instead of worrying about the whole world.  I would
like to see my tax dollars work for this country and not for some dictator
in a Bannana Republic.

 George Bush is a 
>       wonderful President and Peace Keeper.

Definitely.....don't agree.  I will vote Mr. Clinton for President come
November!!!!!!!!!!!

>The company I work for does not necessarily agree with the above
>views (although they should).  These are my personal views.

Likewise!!!!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:30854 rec.music.indian.misc:2470
From: iac!meha@uunet.uu.net (Meha Mehta - ITG Los Angeles)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Aamir Khan, Salman Khan and Madhuri Pictures
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:12:33 GMT
Reply-To: iac!meha@uunet.uu.net
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Investment Technology Group, Culver City, CA


Hi.

Can someone please post images of the above mentioned people
or any other you may have??  If not, can you please give info as to 
where I can obtain them from?


Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 22:13:52 GMT

mg819305@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>1. Do you think that Pakistan should pull out of Kashmir before the
>   plebiscite?
>2. How will Kashmir provide safety for all nonmuslims driven away
>   by the terrorists?
>3. Do you think that Kashmir should be an islamic state?
>4. Pakistan has already fought two wars for Kashmir, how do you
>   think Kashmir can protect itself from Pakistan?

>Do you have anwsers for this questions?

>Manoj

 It is the mitual understanding bet. India-Pakistan-Kashmiris-U.N.
  what to do before Plebiscit.
  Indo-Pak govt. says the issue of Kashmir is between them and ignore
 Kashmiris subject.
  Kashmiris are asking to negotiate with them about the fate of Kashmir.

Ans.1: Kashmiris would ask both army should pull out before plebiscit.
A.2 This is very critical question because the correct news of Kashmiri
   minorities left Kashmir for what reasons is still debated with 
  different ideas. 
  Suppose we consider that Kashmiris are driven out by militiant then
  JKLF, a secular party, having wide popularity among Kashmiris will 
  take all measurements to take back Minorities.

A.3. As far as I know most Kashmiris support JKLF, a secular party.
    If Kashmirs are selecting Islamic Fundamentalist party then they are
   blowing axes on their lags because....
   Kashmiris main income is from toursit and Carpet business.
   For tourist they have to provide all means.
   Eventhough Kashmir being Muslim dominated there is no ban on alcohol.

A.4 Pakistan is a big question but India is not less.
    Who knows what is hidden in the heart of both land?
   In India it seems BJP , a party believing in Akhannd Bharat, may come 
  to power and tomorrow it may take control over Pakistan.
  I am not trying to give round about answer of this question.
  Once again,
Who knows what is hidden in the heart of both land which has made KAshmir as
their colony?


Bye
Adil
From: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov. (Pradip R. Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Discussion on controversial and lighter issues
Date: 15 Sep 1992 18:20:59 GMT
Reply-To: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov.
Organization: G.E. Government Services

Hi netters!  How about having discussions on :

1.
	Why do people feel security in seeing that their religion is practised by
	all the other people ?


2.   	Do you enjoy watching movies on the video or you would rather watch in
	the theater ?  I understand that Apsra, a nice theater in Bombay, is 
	closed and transformed into a business complex.  Would this be a fate
	for all other theaters in India ???


Pradip Shah
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian