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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Review
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:21:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <1drcopINN4nu@rave.larc.nasa.gov> cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
>
>FLORIDA STATE 69 MARYLAND 21: Did I mention that my score prediction
>was for the first half only? :-) Florida State did indeed lead 42-7
>at the half. Charlie Ward, using the shotgun formation for much of
>the game, passed for 394 yards and 4 TDs. He finished with 478 yards
>of total offense - 23 shy of a school record. FSU racked up 858 yards
>and 40 first downs - both ACC records - and punted only once.
>(Predicted: FSU 42-7)

Officially, FSU didn't punt at all. They ran a punt play, but Maryland
got penalized on the play, so they wound up getting a first down. 

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From: pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett)
Subject: Re: What's the Bowl picture?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:52:35 GMT

In article <Bx77zq.M7t@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:
> In article <Bx74pA.JJB@ra.nrl.navy.mil> salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:
> >So far it's looking like the following:
> >
> >Orange Bowl:Nebraska/BC or ND?
> >Cotton Bowl:Texas/FSU?
> >Sugar Bowl:Alabama/Miami?
> >Blockbuster Bowl:Penn State/?
> >Rose Bowl:Washington/Michigan
> >Fiesta Bowl:?
> >Citrus Bowl:? 
> 
> 
> ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS?

I hope Miami gets killed!!!! 
Go BAMA!!!
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From: hyde@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Hyde)
Subject: Lee Corso vs. Tom Osborne
Summary: Lee Corso is a subversive
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:20:13 GMT

After watching the first few minutes of the Ho-hum ISU vs KSU game (they were 
fighting for 6th in the Big 8??) Thursday night the announcer during a break
said stay tuned for halftime when they will have a live interview with coaches
Dr. Tom and (Fill in KU's coaches name...sorry, I don't know who he is). SO,
being the avid Husker fan that I am, I read news here till halftime!  The first
comment that came out of KU's coach was directed to Dr. Tom and went something
like this:

"Tom, you sure have a nice tie on. Your wife must have bought that for you 
because I know for a fact that that you don't have that good of taste."

Dr. Tom replied:

"Heh..no, I got this from the basketball coach (referring to Danny Nee).  The
basketball team coaching staff are the flashy dressers."

Nice jab by the KU coach I thought. He seemed to be teasing but noone likes to
be embarassed on National TV (can BuffaloEs count to 52 by 7's???)! I thought
Dr Tom was a little defensive since he (and I) thought that he was going to 
talk about the NU/KU matchup not nit-pick about attire and get cornered about
not winning the 'Big' one (yet again!!!!!) by Corso!  Corso never even 
addressed the KU game with the 2 coaches. I think that the tie crack was the 
KU coaches first and only comment  (someone please correct me...) since the 
tension immediately went UP when Corso cornered Osborne.  BTW, Corso never 
even offered a word of praise or congratulations to EITHER coach on how well
the respective teams were doing. But we expect that of Lee, do we not? We 
in Husker-land have a seathing dislike for Corso for his on the air digs at
the NU program and Coach Osborne in particular.  Looking at Corso in a more
objective light leads me to believe that he gets down on EVERY program except
the Miami Hurricanes. We will not take his unthinking attempts to start an
exciting interview too personally anymore since it is obvious that it is not
JUST Nebraska that he dislikes, it just seemed that way for so long. Maybe 
NU was his ORIGINAL hate team??? Yeah! We are Number 1 at SOMETHING!!!!! Look
Lee!!!! 

I just hope the Huskers can put on 2 good showings for the TV audience 
together in succession and squeak away with a win!  Watch Calvin Jones, who
as a backup I-back stomped for 296 yards against the J-Hawks last year in 
Lawrence after KU built a 17-0 lead. Best of luck to the KU team who have 
seemingly climbed into the ring with respectibility this year. Better luck to
Nebraska and PLEEEEAAASSSSSEEEEE, don't give Lee Corso any more firepower!!!

-Don Hyde
Husker Power Club member
(...well, I just tag along to my dad's membership!) :^)
*From under the balcony on the 45 yard line at Memorial Stadium*
"Does the Soda vendor EVER make it up this far???"
 

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Date: Mon,  2 Nov 92 13:55:39 MST
From: rosej@utah.et.byu.edu (James Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: BYU Report: BYU beats Penn State
Keywords: BYU football


 ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes

>How many years of eligibility does Walsh have left?  And is there any chance
>that he would replace Hancock as the starting QB next year, barring injury?

Hancock and Walsh are now sophomores.  I don't believe that Walsh has redshirted
so if he doesn't play anymore this year he would have 3 years left.  I think that the race for QB next year will be more intense than this fall.  I don't want to count out Steve Clements but with his injury and the playing experience of Walsh and Hancock I don't think that he can win the job.  The competion between Walsh and Hancock should be fierce.  I really think that Walsh did a fine job early in the season in spite of what others may think.  The main problem (aside from a few obvious poorly thrown bal




ls) was the inexperience of the offensive line and a little confusion in comunication between Walsh and recievers.  If Walsh had the time that Hancock now has I think he would be doing just as well or better.


>We're saying good things about the pass defense of a Mitchell.  This sure has
>been a weird season.  :^)

I think that Patrick Mitchell is doing a great job for a sophomore.  He really does have decent speed (WAC 110M high hurdle champion) and is getting better all of the time.  He still allows himself to get beat but he seems to recover well if the ball is at all underthrown.  I think he will only get better.  I like him a lot more than Vic Tarleton who hasn't impressed me with either speed or a good feel for the ball.

					James
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK)
Subject: Re: Lee Corso's latest prediction
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:33:43 GMT

In article <BxH0Kz.DK5@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>In <1992Nov6.212823.11740@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> kkc@stat.nursing.arizona.edu (Kee Koon Chua) writes:
>
>| Lee Corso has been predicting a Washington's loss since the first week of
>| the season. It seems like he has something personal against Washington.
>| As for Miami, it is always #1 to him regardless of how bad Miami played or
>| how well Washington played.
>
>No way.  Corso is NOT a MIAMI fan.  He predicted Iowa , FSU and PSU would
>beat Miami.  Didn't Corso played QB at FSU? 

Yes, he did. I think he also was a DB...not sure about that tho.

Kevin

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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: Michigan, the leaders and the best
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:51:51 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <BxH3BH.EFD@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>
>
>Gee, you gloss over that loss to Florida State fairly quickly. I know you
>would like to not include it but you lost in your own back yard 51-31.

Gee Justin, what's with the constant Michigan flame?
You (and your team) lose big here once?
 
I think the original post intended to show the strength of the
home field this year (a la Arizona). 

Easy now man.  You're losing perspective.
 
--
Bryan Luedy
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From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:15:38 GMT

In article <Bx7F3G.ox@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>| 
>
>  The way I see it.  Bama or Florida willl chicken out like last year and 
>  get the Sugar Bowl to invite another  team that maybe a SEC champ could

Florida wanted Miami to come to the Sugar Bowl, you idiot.  The chicken-
canes had nothing to gain by playing Florida, and Notre Dame threatened
the SEC committee...

Anyway, win or lose, Florida (at least) is not *chicken*.  Quit spewing
at the keyboard, Fawcett.

By the way, did anyone see the Gator's number 1 alum, Emmitt Smith, say
he was an "honorary Hurricane" on ESPN?  Hmmm...


Andy
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Subject: Re: Miami #1
From: William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:25:32 -0500 
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In an article <1992Nov12.165643.16101@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
kkc@nursing.arizona.edu (Kee Koon Chua) writes:

>So far, the only real team that Miami has beaten is FSU and Arizona. As
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^                                 ^^^^^^^

First of all, I AM NOT A MIAMI HURRICANE FAN!!!!!! Got it? Good!
But, wait a minute, I don't get this.  After Miami's win over Arizona,
every UW fan in the nation was calling Arizona a "creampuff",
"overrated", "fluke", "a non-contender", "the weakest PAC-10 team". 
Could it now be that UW fans are hyping up Arizona to make their Huskies
look good?

I don't know.  You tell me.

Will         

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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: RU assistant coach arrested
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 20:09:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.182509.24315@walter.bellcore.com>, lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver) writes:
|> Hmm, Who were those RU folks bashing PSU early in the season for having a
|> recruit arrested for possession (and was suspended from the team)?
|> 
|> Reading the paper this morning reveals that Rutgers' Defensive Line coach has 
|> been charged with possession of cocaine.  He was arrested when New
|> Brunswick police raided a crack house along with 6 other people (including
|> a 14 and 17 year old).

Actually, my local paper, the Newark Star Ledger, seems to give out more 
information on this.  Specifically:

"It was a solemn Doug Graber who gathered his team before practice 
yesterday [Thursday] to inform the players of the Wednesday night 
arrest of associate head coach Arnold Jeter by New Brunswick police.
Jeter, 53, was arrested and charged with possession of cocaine along
with six other people in downtown New Brunswick.  Jeter, who was
released on his own recognizance after a preliminary hearing yesterday,
met with Graber and athletic director Fred Gruninger yesterday afternoon
and immediately claimed his innocence in the matter.

Police sources indicated that Jeter, who was among the first assistant
coaches hired by Graber when the latter took over the Scarlet Knights
in 1990, may have simply walked into the residence in midtown New 
Brunswick when a raid was being conducted by the New Brunswick 
anti-crime unit.  All seven people on the premises were arrested."

|> It's bad when players are arrested but now a person who is
|> responsible for guiding his players...

I only thought it was bad when someone arrested is found to be guilty.
Interesting.  My paper didn't mention that Jeter had already been put 
on trial and convicted.  Hmm, I'll have to check this again...

|> John L 

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From: jade@hydra.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Re: Washington State
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 23:29:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov5.152323.24272@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> tino@ray.metray writes:
>Gee, y'all notice that them folks aren't hootin for them there WSU Coyotes (I 
>mean Cougars) anymore.  What fans...Gotta love 'em... I sure hope UWash never
>loses two games.  I'd hate too see all those great Washington high school 
>players come to Florida State..
>
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Amazing!! People just don't dont get jokes do they???

-Eric Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
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From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: Glen Mason to Ohio State?
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:11:09 GMT

Alan Harder writes:
> The statement "If this team gets by Indiana" and "they defenitly (sic)
> have the talent to beat them." are mutually exclusive.

Sort of in the same way that "If Michigan gets by Purdue" and "they
definitely have the talent to beat Ohio State" would be mutually
exclusive?

Just asking.
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From: marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson)
Subject: Re: God! Grass DOES grow in the SWC!!
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:01:16 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 660bcc241644a4620f4f076a1b7977a6

In article <1992Nov11.083556@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov11.004247.536@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
>>Finally!! A SWC team with grass in their home field! TCU's new field looks
>>great. I tuned in to the the TCU-Texas game and could not believe what I saw.
>>Grass!! Now if only the Big 8 could see this.
>>
>Don't look for KSU to replace their's any time soon, as they just got
>new turf put on.   Mizzou's turf is supposedly the next one to be
>replaced.  After all of MU's injuries the past several years, they
>may want to go to grass.  I think ISU's QB-Utter, would like grass
>too since he has had two concussions this year.  I don't know about
>the rest of the Big 8 and how soon they need to replace their turfs.
>
>I understand that the maintenance cost between grass and turf is
>about equal.  What are the advantanges to turf over grass?  Or
>grass over turf?

Iowa recently went back to grass after having turf, but my understanding is
that they can't, or don't, practice in the stadium so that they don't destroy 
the grass. Can any Iowa fans confirm this?  Natural grass fields, at least here
in the North, become sloppy as the rain and snow in October and November turn
the fields to mud.  However, there have been a number of fields installed that
have a thick sand base underneath the topsoil.  These fields can absorb
something like 9 inches of water per hour without turning muddy.  Rosenblatt
Stadium, here in Omaha, has a field like this.  You may recall last year's
College World Series, the night before the final game, it rained buckets (one
of the semi-final games was played in that downpour so that the final could be
broadcast on national TV the following day), the next day, the field was in
great shape, and pretty dry to boot.  There is also a product that you can put
on a wet field, it's high tech kitty litter, more or less, that can absorb
water.

NU installed a new turf this year and, whether this is true cause and effect I
don't know, has had ~very~ few injuries. There was some talk about replacing
the turf with grass, but TO was not in favor of it because he did not feel that
they could practice on it and have it in shape for game day..
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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Bowl Options (was Re: Open Question to Miami fans)
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:33:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov12.183345.28651
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Here's an interesting scenario which could happen still.  As of the time
I'm posting this, the Pac Ten has not yet announced any penalties against
the UW for the Hobert violation.  One penalty that has been discussed is
forfiture of just the Stanford game, since some papers allege that head
coach Don James was aware of Hobert's loan before the Stanford game (although
both Don James and Athletic Director Barbara Hedges both deny this).  If
the Pac Ten does make UW forfeit this game, then Washington would no longer
be in the driver's seat for the Rose Bowl, that honor would belong to 
Stanford.  In addition, Arizona also would be ahead of UW in the standings.
That would leave Washington as Bowl Coalition material. Miami would still
probably meet either Alabama or Texas A&M if one of those teams remains
undefeated.  Should they falter (or the Canes drop a game to Syracuse),
it would really leave open a Miami - UW Fiesta Bowl matchup (although it
wouldn't by any stretch be for the MNC from UW's point of view).

Just a thought (that will probably be moot when the Pac Ten releases their
findings today).

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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: what if....
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:36:13 GMT

Cliff Slaughterbeck (crs@stein.u.washington.edu) wrote:
: the Fiesta Bowl.  There is absolutely nothing which says that the Sugar 
: Bowl can't pass up a #1 ranked Miami in favor of a #9 ranked Notre Dame if
: they want to.  Sound familiar, anyody?

Also, there is absolutely nothing which says that a #1 ranked Miami can't
turn down an invitation to play in the Sugar Bowl in favor of a higer
pay-out in the Orange Bowl.  Does this sound familiar too?

Yes, folks, this is true, although avoiding the damage to Miami's 
reputation for not playing the highest ranked available team would 
probably be more valuable to them than staying at home to play in the OB.

According to today's (11/11) Dallas Morning News, as an example, Miami
would make $1.2 million more in pay-out from the Orange Bowl instead
of the Cotton Bowl.  Then throw $700,00 savings in travel costs, and it's
worth close to $2 mil for them to stay home.  Remember, football pays
a lot of other athletic dept. bills...
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:43:11 EST
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Auburn--NCAA comes a callin'
 <1992Nov8.214734.29043@news.duc.auburn.edu>
 <1992Nov9.184931.7399@b11.b11.ingr.com>

Although Pat Sullivan did get out of Dodge before the shit really
hit the fan, I think a couple of things will stand between him and
the Auburn coaching job.  First, although he does have some more
coaching experience now, it hasn't been to impressive [though I
suspect the NCAA announcement was a big motivating force in the
Texas win :) ].  Second, he is still associated with Dye, and there
may well be a "clean house" mentality.  Finally, Sullivan was a bit
hacked off when he left Auburn, and may want a few more years to prove
himself before returning.  Let's face it, Auburn's in for some ROUGH
years ahead, with probably 2-3 three years of probation.

My guess is that the two people on the short list for the job will
be Ken Hatfield and Danny Ford.  Of course, Auburn could hire Hatfield
and then Clemson could re-hire Ford, which would really make the ACC
an entertaining place.  Ken Hatfield is known for running a clean
program, and Ford has been completely cleared by the NCAA for the crap
that went on at Clemson.

If Auburn decides to hire a new head coach from within (and this
strikes me as HIGHLY unlikely) about the only candidate would be
DC Wayne Hall.

Enjoy the Iron Bowl in TV guys; it's likely to be the last one for
a while.


Jim Thomas
Penn STate


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From: tino@yogi.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: Re: ACC Review (FSU-UM Corrections)
Reply-To: tino@yogi.metray
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:07:12 GMT

In article 1drcopINN4nu@rave.larc.nasa.gov, cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:

LOADS OF STUFF DELETED...

>
>
>FLORIDA STATE 69 MARYLAND 21: Did I mention that my score prediction
>was for the first half only? :-) Florida State did indeed lead 42-7
>at the half. Charlie Ward, using the shotgun formation for much of
>the game, passed for 394 yards and 4 TDs. He finished with 478 yards
>of total offense - 23 shy of a school record. FSU racked up 858 yards
>and 40 first downs - both ACC records - and punted only once.
>(Predicted: FSU 42-7)

Corrections:
	1) Ward finished with 506 yards total offense.  The flea flicker 
	    pass back to Ward from Baker was ruled a lateral and gave 28
	    more yards to Ward.
	2) That 506 Total Offense is misleading since Charlie, along with
	    the rest of the starters were pulled just after starting the 
	    second half.  FSU could have easily had 1000 yards of offense 
	    and Ward could have had an even bigger day....
	3) FSU punted once - but it was called back because of a penalty.
	    Officially, FSU did not punt..
>

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