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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 02:18:39 GMT

In article <a-7-QC+@engin.umich.edu> hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel) writes:
>In article <6006@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>>
>>I love this.  Only at Carolina would they have the gall to hang ACC
>>championship banners for YEARS THEY DID NOT WIN.
>
>What about Duke's banner from '86 for
>finishing #1 in the polls BEFORE the tourney.
>Everyone does it.

No.  Everybody does not do it.  In fact, only petty, insecure little
schools with no true basketball tradition of taste or greatness do it.

UCLA only hangs one type of banner.

Not fake conference championship banners.
Not even its many real conference championship banners.
Not even "at one time in the season we were ranked really high" banners.

But NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP banners.  NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP banners that
flow in their glory around the entire circumference of Pauley Pavilion.
More numerous than entire conferences can even dream of achieving.
A greater number than most Pac-10 referees can count to.

Let the Dukes and North Carolinas and Indianas of the world debauch
themselves by stooping to showing off hollow symbols of meaningless
achievements.

But the Great Schools will not.

- Trent Lange

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:59:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvtrvM.32u
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>	There is currently a thread in rec.sport.football.college which asks 
>the question:  What is the biggest rivalry?  I'd like to address this question
>to college basketball.  

>	I'm currently at tOSU, so we like to beat the perenially-good Indiana
>and in more recent times Michigan.  I graduated from Villanova which always
>loves to beat Georgetown.  However, I don't think these compare to the ol'
>Duke vs. Unc games, but I understand this rivalry to be rather recent too.

	I think that right now, those Duke/UNC/NCState games are big time
	rivalries.  Some others as of late are Georgetown/Syracuse,
	Syracuse/Pitt.  Kentucky vs. Indiana has been a well known
	rivalry in college basketball for a long time.  Kentucky vs. LSU
	has been a big rivalry as well.  U might want to define rivalries
	within conferences, and out of conference rivalries (where UK vs
	IU would fit in).

	Jazzy J

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Griffith Cancels OSU Visit
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:53:31 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <Bw57F0.AGC@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green) writes:
>In article <19959@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>>
>>Isn't the Krannert School of Management reasonably highly regarded
>>(for a public institution)?  How good is Wisconsin's school?
>
>Krannert (the graduate school) is in the top 25 nationally.  I don't know
>how highly regarded the undergrad management school is, but I hope it's
>up there -- they're giving me a degree this spring!

It's OK, but Rashard wants a degree in business, and business does not
equal management, though the two things are close, I guess.  Wisconsin's
School of Business has been slipping a lot lately, though at one time it
was very highly regarded.  They are building a huge brand-new building for
the School of Business, which may be another selling point.

>It would be nice that the tough academic rep of Purdue would be a selling
>point to a top-notch player.  Assuming he's eligible...

Wisconsin is generally thought as just as tough as Purdue, if not tougher
in certain fields.  Purdue is thought of as a tough school for technical
fields, but has yet to obtain that destinction for many of its
non-technical areas.  Most of Krannert's rep comes from the fact that most
of its graduate students are in fact engineers coming back to get training
in technical management.  I don't think that having a strong technical
reputation will be a major selling point to Griffith, but you never know.

This talk is probably mute.  All the four schools Griffith is interested in
have decent academic reputations, and I really don't think that is his
major priority anyway.  It probably depends a lot more on who he becomes
better friends with.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: arminius@soc12.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Collins (Was: Joey Beard - Duke Bound)
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:01:46 GMT
Reply-To: arminius@soc12.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)



|
|> 
|> Chris looked pretty good in the pickup game I saw last Friday on campus.
|> Some good moves that looked hard to defense, and a breakaway that made
|> Hurley say "fockin" in true Jersey City fashion.
|>
|> 
|> Basically, my opinion in responding to Rob is based on his performance in
|> the McDonalds AA game where he was a black hole (though in his defense he
|> is a great shooter - but look up Duke's record in games were one player
|> has scored 30+ in the Coach K era - probably not even above .500).
|> 
|> It's not intended to be a personal attack on CC either.

He is still frustrating the hell out of the veterans with his reluctance to
do anything but pass the ball. However, more serious is the fact that at a party
held by Parks, even K. Blakeney was making fun of the way he danced.
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:36:45 GMT

In article <BvrM0v.600@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> lillie@mentor.cc.purdue.edu  
(Christopher Lillie) writes:
> >In fact, after the 1988-89 season noise absorbers were REMOVED from
> >Cameron, spoiling many future concerts there.
> 
> Seems to me like the Dukies have the right idea. A basketball arena's
> top consideration should be basketball. If you can add to your home court
> advantage do it. Cameron was tough before, but you do hear more about the
> noise now.

Also, in 1988-89 the band assumed its present position on the end
closest to the visiting bench after Coach K complained he couldn't
hear himself/anybody else in the huddle.  

On the same thread, the first concert of the Peter Gabriel "So"
tour was supposed to be scheduled for Cameron, but since the team
would have had to shift practice to Card Gym (for the first day
of practice in fact) the idea was nixed, and Gabriel bypassed 
Durham.  Not too many people were still complaining the next
March/April ('86) though.

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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:  9 Oct 92 16:22:35 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:

>egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>>	There is currently a thread in rec.sport.football.college which asks 
>>the question:  What is the biggest rivalry?  I'd like to address this question
>>to college basketball.  

Everyone seems to have forgotten the yearly matchup between:

  Georgetown and The Little Sisters of the Poor

The fan goes nuts - if they'd only televise it, you'd see.
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
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From: rusty@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Rusty Puckett)
Subject: Re: College Sports Top 25
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:26:04 GMT

trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

>Chris Erwin mentioned that the earlier a preseason mag comes out, the more 
>drug-induced its predictions are.  This is especially true for a new
>publication called College Sports.  It actually had several nice articles,
>including one on Jerry Stackhouse; the Hurley family; Wagner College and its
>Yugoslavian stars; Rollie M. at UNLV; and scout Tom Knochalski.
> It also contains the following Top 25 list:

>1. FSU "Athleticism and experience add up to No. 1" 
>2. Indiana "Should have great battles vs Michigan"
>3. Duke "Laettner's gone but Blue Devils still team to beat in March"
>4. Michigan "What do Wolverines do for an encore?"
>5. Kentucky "Could be doing monster Mash on Bourbon St."
>6. Arizona "Must shoot better than it did last year"
>7. Kansas "Williams should be next coach in Chapel Hill...."
>8. UNC "...until then, Dean will do"
>9. Memphis State "Topped 20-win mark for firt time since '89"
>10. Boston College "Will be in Final Four this year or next"
>11. Oklahoma "Loss of Brent Price makes them quicker"
>12. Seton Hall "Preseason favorite in changed Big East"
>13. Cincinnati "Will miss Anthony Buford and Herb Jones"
>14. UNLV "Rebels are loaded; no excuses for Rollie"
>15. Louisville "Cardinals are 12-4 in NCAA with shot clock"
>16. Georgetown "Othella Harrington joins strong nucleus of juniors"
>17. Tulane "Posse should make Wave tough again"
>18. James Madison "Lefty finally gets it right"
>19. Tennessee "Allan Houston vaults dad's Vols to top 20"
>20. W. Kentucky "Hilltoppers represent an underrated league" (Sun Belt)


  W. Kentucky in the Sun Belt?  Is this from the magazine or R. Clough?  I
thought they jumped to the American South last year, and they sure aren't as
good as Louisiana Tech, New Orleans, and possibly South Alabama.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Wisconsin recruiting news
Date: 9 Oct 1992 01:28:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

  Darnell Hoskins, a 6-1 point guard from Dayton, has signed with Wisconsin.
  The heir apparent to Tracy Webster, Hoskins was had this weekend after
  watching UW upset Ohio State at Camp Randall. Hoskins said he had a good
  time hanging around Rashard Griffith (think there would actually be a     
  recruiting news post about UW w/out Rashard!). Could this mean that they
  will be teammates??!! Does anyone have any info on this guy? All I know is
  that he's a good penetrator with decent shot (51% overall, 34% 3-land).

  Also, UW-Milwaukee has signed Nathan Schrameyer, a 6-8 forward from 
  Sheboygan North. Said Ric Cobb, who coached Schrameyer on AAU all-star
  teams the past three summers, "That's a tremendous catch for UWM. I would
  say he's one of the top 6 players in the state this year."

  Schrameyer likes UWM's run-and-gun style. Schrameyer's coach Tom Desotell
  added, "He can run the floor very well. That's one of his strengths. He's
  got good hands and he's a good rebounder."

  Last year, UWM got Allen Spears, a point guard from Dayton, to sign early.
  Does anyone in the Dayton area have any info on Spears or Hoskins?

  --salty
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Dickie V's guide (was: Street and Smith Issue)
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:08:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: jade.1992Oct7.180832.23536
Distribution: na
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Oct7.100151.26075@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
> [substance deleted]
>Coach Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Season: 1-5 Lifetime: 1-7
                                                   ^             ^

	Congrats on the win!  What, did the other team get stuck in traffic? :-)

--
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Dept. of Mathematics            of them chances down in the dirt like a 
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: O'Banner Du Jour (was  Re: Best Rivalry)  
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:19:48 GMT

In article <71186@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>
>If so I have a suggestion: Why don't we, the members of r.s.b.c, take
>up a collection for UCLA's banners.  We'll pay to have them taken
>down and shipped to a museum somewhere where they can be displayed 
>alongside similar artifacts, like stone knives and mummy cases.
>

Perhaps the sale of Franklin Mint Commermorative UCLA Banner 
Coins could raise money for an appropriate resting place and 
keep the memory of those banners alive in bureau drawers 
throughout the nation.


>This would free up valuable banner real estate in Pauley for
>Ed O'Bannon to start filling up.
>

And by the way, what is big Ed up to these days?

Ken B.



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From: daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Subject: Re: Dick V's Rag (PAC-10)
Organization: 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:04:07 GMT



I've been having trouble finding this or any other decent hoop magazine.
Would someone post the PAC-10 info out of it?  Just Curious
(God knows why!).  Thanks in advance.


-Daytrpr

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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: O'Banner Du Jour (was Re: Best Rivalry) 
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:23:53 GMT

kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:

>And by the way, what is big Ed up to these days?

Roughly speaking, the top of the backboard.

Not much news from "Your Eyewitness Ed O'Bannon reporter", I'm afraid.
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Fisher lassoes Texas recruit
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:01:38 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

In article <6041@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>>In article <ASH.92Oct14134630@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>>>Crawford apparently is the best three point shooter of all incoming
>>>point guards.
>
>Actually, he and Jeff Capel are at about the same level.  Capel shot 32%
>from three point land, and Crawford 33%.  Capel's overall % was 52, and 
>Crawford's 53%.  Crawford shot better as a sophomore, and Capel shot better
>over the summer.  

From the newspapers around here, I could swear that UK-signee-to-be
Jeff Shepherd averaged right at 50% of his 3s last year. But his
Rex Chapman-like leaping ability may have something to do with that,
so he probably isn't in the same league as Capel and Crawford. As
a shooter, I mean.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>
Nobody knows, from sea to shining sea, why we are having all this trouble
with our republic.
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Fisher lassoes Texas recruit
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:06:17 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

>In article <ASH.92Oct14134630@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>>Crawford apparently is the best three point shooter of all incoming
>>point guards.

Actually, he and Jeff Capel are at about the same level.  Capel shot 32%
from three point land, and Crawford 33%.  Capel's overall % was 52, and 
Crawford's 53%.  Crawford shot better as a sophomore, and Capel shot better
over the summer.  
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Give someone a fish, and they'll fish for a day.  Teach someone to fish, and
they'll fish for a lifetime."--J.D. Quayle
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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:58:08 GMT

sjl@TEFS1.acd.com (Scot Leibacher) writes:

> ....speaking of rivalries, I haven't seen the old Notre Dame/UCLA 
> "hatred" mentioned here. They haven't met all that much in recent 
> years but at one time this one one of the hottest, 

UCLA and Notre Dame play every year.  The Irish upset the Bruins last
year, but in general UCLA wins this game.  I'm sure Scott Turner will
have a comment about Digger Phelps in a followup of this article.


-- M

P.S. Digger is a Wimp!
--

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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Dickie V's guide (was: Street and Smith Issue)
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 14:24:25 GMT

denelsbe@washington.cs.unc.edu (Kevbo) writes:
: 
: S & S is usually a pretty good guide.  But Dick Vitale's guide is (IMO) the
: best. 

    I agree.  Vitale's guide is good.  Only the first few pages, where the
    top 40 and all-americans are listed and a few pages with lists of 
    Vitaleisms (all-Dow-Jonesers, all-Rodney-Dangerfields, etc..), are 
    actually written by him.  The conference previews are written by 
    other writers from those areas and include rosters, which many 
    publications do not have.  They also have a good pro section.
-- 
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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kirk King and LSU's Fab 5
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:55:38 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

The Five players that I was referring to were Livingston, Henderson,
Rayshard Allen, Jerald Honeycutt and King.  According to Gibbons, King
is close to giving a verbal to UConn.  Allen is gone, King is close to
gone. I don't think Scot Pollard, another top 25er, will be heading
down south either.  
  But LSU already has a great class.  This does seem to be a record year 
for high school talent in Louisiana, and LSU has a top ten class as it
stands.
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Give someone a fish, and they'll fish for a day.  Teach someone to fish, and
they'll fish for a lifetime."--J.D. Quayle
From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:12:00 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <718988631@termite.cs.duke.edu>, db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes...
{(Ian Carter) writes:
{>Speaking from ACC tournament experience, no matter how annoying Duke has been
{>to other Big Four schools, they still hate Carolina more. At each tourney,
{>Duke is hated by State and Wake fans until it is Duke vs. UNC, and then they
{>either leave or cheer for Duke. If you've ever seen the average Rams Club
{>member, you would understand why.
{ 
{There's another reason. On a recent visit to the Dean Dome
{I was astounded by the number of ACC championship banners
{hanging from the rafters. The Tar Heels owned this conference
{from the mid 70's to the late 80's. I think they won 11 out
{of possible 15 ACC championships during that era or something
{ridiculous like that.
{ 
{People hate a winner.
{ 
{Dov
{-- 
{An adult child of normal parents

You would have also seen many banners with NCAA round of ____ (fill in the 
blank).  The UNC athletic department hangs up banners for anything.  They 
are about as significant as Army commendation medals.

Another burning question.  Is the conference champion the one who wins the 
tournament or the one who has the best record for the regular season?  The
boys at UNC will take either and make a banner out of it.

-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu
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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: According to Gibbons....
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:27:57 GMT

In article <6011@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>Just got the new Gibbons letter, and it's chock full o' news.
>
>Speculation:
>**UConn is close to getting a VC from 6-8 F Kirkland King. This, along
>with Rayshard Allen's signing with Tulane, breaks up the "Fab 5" for
>Dale Brown.**

 I don't know about a "Fab 5", but the story with Kirk King is he was offered
a scholarship from UConn with a 3-week deadline to decide. He has yet to accept
the offer. I don't know when the offer was extended or the exact deadline, but
he has a scheduled visit to LSU within the next couple of weeks.
 The Tigers are now concentrating their recruiting efforts on the following:

Washington center Scot Pollard
Grambling forward Jerald Honeycutt
Baton Rouge forward Kirk King

 Maybe these three, with guards Livingston and Henderson, make up your "Fab 5"?


Nelson

>	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
>"Where was that contract negotiated, the Forum parking lot?"
> --Pete Vecsey, on Lakers GM Jerry West giving Anthony Peeler a 10 yr. contract


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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Street & Smith's Has Arrived!!!
Keywords: Top 25, conferences, All-Americans
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:41:43 GMT

erwinc@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Christopher S. Erwin) writes:


>Well, Street & Smith's is out!  I haven't had much of a chance to
>go through it yet, but here is the top 25:

>14. UCLA

A little high, if you ask me.

>23. Arizona State

Extremely high.  Do all of these publications finish their writing
in April, or something?

I also note a minor inconsistency that they put Douglas Edwards on
the All-ACC team, but George Lynch on (3rd string) All-American.
Lynch didn't make All-ACC and Edwards didn't make All-American (even
4th team).  

Sheesh.

I know, I know, different writers.  But c'mon.  That's what an editor is
for.
--

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From: Grady W Chism <gchism@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith Recruiting thought
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:23:57 GMT

At least Rashard will know that TOSU is not just another football school.  I 
was surprised that they didn't introduce him at halftime.
-- 
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