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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: JOKE OF THE COUSINS
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:01:59 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Apr15.030654.2408992@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>You may have heard/read this joke, but what's the heck:

>    Two Jews are sitting in the window and middle seats on a plane.
>The Jews ask the Arab sitting in the aisle seat to get them a glass of
>orange juice so they won't have to crawl over him.  While he is up getting
>the drinks, they spit in his shoes.  When they are about to land the
>Arab guy puts on his shoes and realizes what has happened.  He complains
>to the Jews, "When will it all end?  The hatred... the violence... the
>killing... the spitting in shoes... the peeing in orange juice..."

>:))  :))  :)) :))

Yes, this came across rec.humor a few days ago, but with the roles of
the races switched.  I actually would tell the joke in this form to
an Arab friend.  But I think it was quite tastless of you, having
switched the joke around, to then post it to soc.culture.jewish.
Better to have posted it in its original form.  Or offend both
groups by making them having had drinken the peed orange juice.

It is a very funny joke, though.

--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4089      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:1885 soc.culture.latin-america:1907 soc.culture.lebanon:2150
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: About the explosion
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:06:11 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Apr6.151301.14328@en.ecn.purdue.edu> souissi@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi) writes:

>Bush and company should be tried for war crimes because of the
>"collateral" damage which resulted in the death of thousands
>of Iraqi  civilians with his military's "surgical" bombing.

Let me see if I have this straight.  Say an evil gang breaks into
my home, and starts to rape my wife and daughters and loot my
house.  Say a friend or acquaintance down the street hears the
commotion.  He sends his sons with rifles, telling them to
try to kill only the bad guys.  But in the process a few neighbors
are killed.  You're saying that the person that came to my aid
should be punished, rather than the gang?  Maybe if he told his
sons to blow up my house with dynamite...

I don't know that any informed person has considered war to
be a clean business, despite some of the (idiotic) early
press coverage of the war.  I think that there was no doubt
that civilians would die due to the allies pushing Iraq out
of Kuwait.  I also believe that the US planners went to great
lenghts to avoid civilian casulties (in WWII our bombers flew
during daylight to lessen civilian casulties, even though this
meant more US casulties).  That is not to say no bombs missed their
targets and landed in civilian areas---this demonstrably happened.
I just think it is clear that the US went to very reasonable
lengths to avoid that, and the blame for the damage from the war
rests squarely on the shoulders of Saddam Hussein and the
sycophants surrounding him.  Why do you not blame him?  Does the
fact that he thumbed his nose at the West outweigh what he did
to Kuwait and the damage his rape of Kuwait caused to Iraq?

Anyone who thinks that the US would deliberately bomb civilians
(like here or in the accidental downing of the Iranian airliner
a while back) is an ignorant fool (I used those words advisedly)
and is showing utter contempt and ignorance of the American people.
It takes the most paranoid of conspiracy theorists to believe
that only a handful of Americans could know about such plans or
policies (and that they could be assured to be placed in the right
jobs by the conspirators).  And it shows ignorance of Americans to
think that American officers would tolerate it, and our adversarial
press (adversarial to the military, for the most part) would not find
out.  And if this did happen people *would* be tried.   And the
outrage from the American people would be very great.


Well, I'm on a roll.  I have a lot to get done by Monday, but I 
fear this debate will go on...  c'est la vie.
--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4089      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
From: glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: A question on 2 interpretations of the Holy Qur'an
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:45:33 GMT
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133


I recently downloaded the English interpretation of the Holy Qur'an from
through.ugcs.caltech.edu, and I noticed some differences between this
interpretation by M.H. Shakir (Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc.) and the
interpretation by N.J. Dawood (Penguin Books 1990).

Could an Arabic speaker please tell me which interpretation of this portion of
Surah Al-Naba Chapter 78 is more accurate?

By Shakir:

<  31. Surely for those who guard (against evil) is achievement,
< 
<  32. Gardens and vineyards,
< 
<  33. And those showing freshness of youth, equals in age,
< 
<  34. And a pure cup.


By Dawood:

>  31. As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph.
>  
>  32. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards,
>  
>  33. And high-bosomed maidens for companions:
>  
>  34. A truly overflowing cup.

Thank you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: zmbenhal@isis.cs.du.edu (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
Subject: Re: SCDOWN
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 23:01:33 GMT

mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:

>For a class I need to get some ideas on how physical geography divides the
>Dialecs of Arabic in the middle east. Any idea's regardless how small will
>be greatly appreciated.

A simple example would be the difference in dialects between western and eastern
Libya. The two areas are separated by 100s of miles of desert. As a result
the eastern dialect is softer and closer to egyptian (but not dissimilar).
The western dialect is closer to tunisian and other maghrebi dialects.
Not surprisingly, the people in the middle (ie. Sirte) have elements of both
dialects; I never saw two sitreins speak the same way.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: CNN Broadcasted...
From: <PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 22:27:43 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

CNN just reported from...

Libya: The sanctions against Libya are effective from Wednesday. Libyans
and foreigners leaving the country (showed scenes), a country that  will
become isolated as long as the UN sanctions last. Arab League does not
seem to be successful in any reconciliation.

Jerusalem: Scenes with people celebrating on the good news about Arafat.

Lebanon: Broadcast on the rebuilding of the country and refuges attempt-
ing to return to their homes.

West Bank: Broadcast from the camps illustrated the misery there due to
the heavy winter conditions... It ended saying some things on the new
shelters for people; their separation from their loved ones, and the
potential projects that may revive the economy there.

Jordan: A report on the elections there and the abolition of military
law.

The REGULAR program went on having news on possible Iraqi action against
the Kurds (nothing about the events in Turkey). It also added Libya will
close its boarders a day before the sanctions as a protest. Egypt makes so-
me final attemps to bridge the differences right now...

                                        ...as seen by Andronikos Romanos






Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:1919 soc.culture.turkish:4125 soc.culture.lebanon:2176 soc.religion.islam:885 talk.politics.mideast:10605
From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mamdouh Maher)
Subject: Re: A question on 2 interpretations of the Holy Qur'an
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:10:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.044533.2522@StarConn.com> glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis) writes:
>I recently downloaded the English interpretation of the Holy Qur'an from
>through.ugcs.caltech.edu, and I noticed some differences between this
>interpretation by M.H. Shakir (Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc.) and the
>interpretation by N.J. Dawood (Penguin Books 1990).

  Sorry, I cannot answer your question, but it is important to note
that N. J. Dawood is not a Muslim, he is an Iraqi Jew. The Penguin translation
is largely discredited and includes too many inaccuracies to be attributed to
honest error. Please beware of that translation.

Regards,

Mamdouh Maher

Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:1832 soc.culture.latin-america:1866 soc.culture.lebanon:2129
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: About the explosion
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 12:20:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.024938.4151@nic.umass.edu> mmorgan@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Michael Morgan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.030855.21320@cco.caltech.edu> bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) writes:
>
>[... crap/excrement/brilliant moral arguments deleted...]
>
>No, no, no, if I may speak for mi amigo JARS:  he never implied nor
>insinuated in any way that "ordinary civilians" nearby the embassy
>were "intended" targets; 

In fact, Mr. Sera argued that they were intended targets.  

>- Michael

Behnam Sadeghi
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Zero and Arabs
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:09:46 GMT

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM) writes:
: Sender: Muslim
: Followup-To: none
: Distribution: usa
: Organization: Colorado School of Mines
: Keywords: time is running out
: 
: 
: Dear Arab Brothers,
: 
:         Assalam Alaykum
: 
  Wa Alaykum
: 
: 	I want to draw your attention to an interesting point.
: 
: 
: 		" Zero was introduced by the Arabs. Now 
: 		 the Arabs are Zero themselves".
: 
: 
: 	Any comment to this statement would be appreciated.
: 
  My comment : the guy who wrote this statement has ZERO brain. It's sad to
see that bigotry and racism has no limits, (This is not directed against
Mr Mustafa as it's not clear if it's his statement or written by someone
else). He has insulted 150 million people, and i hope that he understands
that he is WRONG. 

  Don't misunderstand me, i can accept critic when it comes from someone
who : 1- Knows Arabs (and didn't learn about them from the media),
      2- When the goal is to help us discovering our weakness, not insulting
      us (and the style of this statement is really insulting).

   There have been many provocative posts to s.c.a these days, i'm wondering
what's going on. WHY ALL THIS HATE AGAINST ARABS ?, WHAT DID WE DO TO BE
TREATED IN THIS WAY ?.
: 
: 	Thanks.
: 
: 
:  				Your brother in islam
: 				ibrahim mustata	

   Ibaa Oueichek, an Arab, but not a Muslim.
-- 
Sham(u) ya tha (s)seif(u) lam yaghib(i) | Ibaa Oueichek. ouicheck@imag.imag.fr
    Ya jamal(al) majd(i) fi(l) kutub(i) | LABORATOIRE 	BULL-IMAG
Kablak(i) (t)tareekh(u) fi thulmaten    | Grenoble. 
    Baadak(i) staula ala (sh)shuhub(i)  |
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:1825 soc.culture.iranian:3094
From: zaineb@mips.com (Zaineb Asaf)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: International Night with Walter Aziz and Haroot at Chatanoga
Date: 6 Apr 1992 19:04:58 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: robin.mips.com
Originator: zaineb@robin.mips.com



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From: souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabization survey
Keywords: Being Muslim
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:08:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Some of the questions need to be changed such as:
"if you are away from the Maghreb, ...?" This
assumes that the survey is addressed to people
from the Maghreb (it was originally designed so).
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: JOKE OF THE COUSINS
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:45:38 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <15337@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.030654.2408992@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>>You may have heard/read this joke, but what's the heck:
>
>>    Two Jews are sitting in the window and middle seats on a plane.
>>The Jews ask the Arab sitting in the aisle seat to get them a glass of
>>orange juice so they won't have to crawl over him.  While he is up getting
>>the drinks, they spit in his shoes.  When they are about to land the
>>Arab guy puts on his shoes and realizes what has happened.  He complains
>>to the Jews, "When will it all end?  The hatred... the violence... the
>>killing... the spitting in shoes... the peeing in orange juice..."
>
>>:))  :))  :)) :))
>
>Yes, this came across rec.humor a few days ago, but with the roles of
>the races switched.  I actually would tell the joke in this form to
>an Arab friend.  But I think it was quite tastless of you, having
>switched the joke around, to then post it to soc.culture.jewish.

You pre-judged my behavior on no bases,  I did not get this joke
from *humor*, it was posted on soc.culture.lebanon as you
see it above.  Oh well, what's the heck, its just a joke.  A joke
is better than bitterness which is typical among the cousins.

jle


>Better to have posted it in its original form.  Or offend both
>groups by making them having had drinken the peed orange juice.
>
>It is a very funny joke, though.
>
>--
>Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
>Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4089      
>Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
>The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The above represents my opinion, and is irrelevant to that of my employer
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 09:30:02 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Afghanistan News
From: spinoza@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Prince Lev of the Domovoi)
Subject: Re: Zero and Arabs
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:46:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr07.073012.30344@slate.mines.colorado.edu>  
imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
> Sender: Muslim
> Followup-To: none
> Distribution: usa
> Organization: Colorado School of Mines
> Keywords: time is running out
> 
> 
> Dear Arab Brothers,
> 
>         Assalam Alaykum
> 
> 
> 	I want to draw your attention to an interesting point.
> 
> 
> 		" Zero was introduced by the Arabs. Now 
> 		 the Arabs are Zero themselves".
> 
Sounds kinda racist to me. Been reading literature from Kach or something?


druzhba y mir,

lev
From: zureick@utasys.uta.edu (Rami Zureick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Software support in Saudi-Arabia
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:39:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <*64H3__i6@cs.psu.edu>, kiledal@lisp.cs.psu.edu (Erik Kiledal) writes...
>Does anybody have any experience with software support in Saudi-Arabia
>of software developed in the USA? For instance, do American companies
>with support groups in Saudi generally provide help of the same quality
>that is given in the USA? Do they have the newest versions of the software
>etc. ?
> 

This is from a Saudi friend of mine:

Some companies such as IBM provide local support at a limited level. If the
local group can not resolve the problem, the problem is transfered to the U.S.
and then back to the local group.

>Also, does anybody have any information on (possible) export restrictions
>on computer software and hardware from the USA to Saudi-Arabia?
> 

I am not aware of any computer restrictions towards Saudi Arabia. But that 
can be verified easily by calling the Commerce Department in Washington, D.C.

                                                    - Rami
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: U.S. Aid to Israel?????
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 14:05:08 GMT

In article <204360@unix.cis.pitt.edu> abas@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Jasem Alhumoud) writes:
>
>                
>
>           Discovering the Victims of the U.S. Aid to Israel
>
>                  " By Eleni Katsoulakis"
>
>
>When I was a little girl with a serious illness, my mother made a pledge
>to Jesus that if I survived, I had to visit the Holy Land where He was born
>and light a candle in the Church of the Nativity. So, to keep my mother's
>sacred promise, I set out a few weeks ago to visit the path of Jesus and
>feel His agony.
>
>  Even before entering the Holy Land, I was startled by Israeli security.
>At John F. Kennedy Airport in New York I was detained in a private room
>and interrogated for four full hours! This was followed by a humiliating
>body search, while 400 Jewish passengers went through relatively quickly.
>All this was still on American soil.
>
Why don't you forward this to talks.politics.mideast and soc.culture.jewish.
Make it shorter if possible. It seems to be an interesting story.

Nabil Idriss
From: pnmideast@igc.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: SC WARNS IRAQ
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:48:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1471800162:000:1667
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!pnmideast    Apr 14 11:48:00 1992


From: <pnmideast>
Subject: SC WARNS IRAQ

/* Written  3:38 pm  Apr 14, 1992 by peg:unic in cdp:unic.news */
/* ---------- "SC WARNS IRAQ" ---------- */
						      SC/5395
						      IK/100
						      10 April
						      1992


    SECURITY COUNCIL WARNS IRAQ NOT TO INTERFERE WITH OR THREATEN
    SECURITY

      OF AIRCRAFT AND PERSONNEL OF SPECIAL COMMISSION DURING
      OVERFLIGHTS


     The President of the Security Council, Sambarashe
Simbanenduku Mumbengegwi (Zimbabwe), issued the following
statement to the press this evening, following consultations of
the Council:

     The members of the Security Council have learnt with grave
concern from the Executive Chairman of the Special Commission of
recent developments which appear to call for a halt in and
constitute a threat to the safety and security of the Special
Commission's aerial surveillance flights over Iraq.  The members
of the Council wish to point out that the surveillance flights are
carried out under the authority of Security Council resolutions
687, 707 and 715 (1991).

     Reaffirming the right of the Special Commission to conduct
such aerial surveillance flights, the members of the Council call
upon the Government of Iraq to take all the necessary steps to
ensure that the Iraqi military forces will not interfere with or
threaten the security of the flights concerned and to comply with
its responsibilities to secure the safety of the Special
Commission's aircraft and personnel while flying over Iraq.  The
members of the Council warn the Government of Iraq of the serious
consequences which would ensue from any failure to comply with
these obligations.

				    * *** *
From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: SCDOWN
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:36:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: memstvx1.1992Apr7.083646.1753
Organization: Memphis State University

For a class I need to get some ideas on how physical geography divides the
Dialecs of Arabic in the middle east. Any idea's regardless how small will
be greatly appreciated.

Mail to MCSWEINBERG@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU
From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Zero and Arabs
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:30:12 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Followup-To: none
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Keywords: time is running out


Dear Arab Brothers,

        Assalam Alaykum


	I want to draw your attention to an interesting point.


		" Zero was introduced by the Arabs. Now 
		 the Arabs are Zero themselves".


	Any comment to this statement would be appreciated.


	Thanks.


 				Your brother in islam
				ibrahim mustata
From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Zero and India not Arabs.
Keywords: Arab Leaders are Puppet
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:07:19 GMT
Followup-To: Zero and India not Arabs
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <1992Apr12.145020.2701@vax1.umkc.edu> vkuttikattu@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr07.073012.30344@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>> Sender: Muslim
>> Followup-To: none
>> Distribution: usa
>> Organization: Colorado School of Mines
>> Keywords: time is running out
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Arab Brothers,
>> 
>>         Assalam Alaykum
>> 
>> 
>> 	I want to draw your attention to an interesting point.
>> 
>> 
>> 		" Zero was introduced by the Arabs. Now 
>> 		 the Arabs are Zero themselves".
>> 
>> 
>> 	Any comment to this statement would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 	Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>>  				Your brother in islam
>> 				ibrahim mustata	
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION THE CONCEPT OF zero WAS CONCIEVED BY THE 
>ANCIENT INDIAN MATHEMATICIAN Aryabhatta AND NOT BY THE Arabs.
>                                              Kunnath Paulose



00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0
0
0     For your kind information zero was introduced by Umer Khyyam the great
0     Mathematician of his times and not by the Aryabhattia. In the days of
0   Abbasi Regime Baghdad was the centre of culture and science. India was then
0    in dark. They were arabs who introduced bright culture to india the islam.
0   Bo Ali Sena was the greatest scientist of his days and many other arabs
0   whose names I dont remember.
0  Next time please dont give any credit to indians for introducing zero.
0
0                                                      Thanks
0  
0                                                       Yours' friend
0						       ibrahim mustafa		
0
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