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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:41:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.094852.22453@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> miked@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Mike Danielsen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.044414.2574@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>>>the Beholder and Ultima 6. When I run most of these games I can still
>>>>use my computer for other things (such as downloading through a terminal
>>>>program.)
>>
>>Give me a break!  Sure, I *can* run my games while under OS/2.
>>
>>But I don't.  Know why?  because it is slow!  Get real, there is often
>>A REASON some games 'take over the machine'.
>
>When I run games and download at the same time there is no apparent slowdown
>in either task. Downloads don't slow down, the game runs just as fast.

Then again, you aren't talking about running Falcon or any 'big' games while
downloading.  Of course I can play non-intensive things, but there is no
way I would keep a decent framerate if I played Falcon3.0 or Ultima Underworld
(you know, those great games that Amigas cannot play?) in a 
multitasking VDM under OS/2 2.0.

>Mike Danielsen
--
Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:   4 Colour Interfaces :-(
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:43:57 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <root.0369@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>In article <10226@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
>>
>>Yep. I share this dislike. And I had a good reason: We had already better
>>interfaces back then: PET, CBM! 
>
>On the other hand, the PET had that nasty keyboard. :-)

Oh, I *LIKED* it! I never learned touch typing, and typing with two or
three fingers is in fact easier on such a small keyboard.

>The Apple II and the TRS-80 were meant for a different market than the Pet,
>Vic 20, C64, and TI 99/4A.  The Apple II, TRS-80, and CPM machines ended up
>on office desks running Visicalc and wordprocessing.  

Sorry? The PET was immediately followed by the bigger CBM machines (start
with 3016) that were precisely aimed at the bureau market. And at least
here in Germany (and perhaps also in the rest of Europe), they stormed
that market! I believe we had over 50 % of market share for commercial
micros back then. And also the release of the IBM PC did not change this
situation, as Commodore soon joined in with PC 10 and PC 20 and easily
sold more PCs than IBM itself. Here.

>And the Apple II had all those slots.

Ok, there were no slots on the CBMs. That hurt them a little.

>The Apple II and TRS-80 were general purpose computers.

Hmm, but the good'ole CBM 8032 and its predecessors were even more
specialized for bureau/commercial use: They didn't provide such toy-like
things as dot graphics, only solid text plus some block graphics chars,
like the first PC! :-)

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Wer's nicht kann, soll's bleiben klopfen oder Steine lassen!
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:23:03 EST
From: Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and:
 <1992Dec13.041029.9962@sol.cs.wmich.edu> <1992Dec13.063021.28547@usl.edu>

In article <1992Dec13.063021.28547@usl.edu>, das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel
A) says:
>>Exactly!  There is not even one wb 2.0 shot in the entire january 93 issue
>>of amigaworld.  So what in the world are you talking about?

[snippety, snip -- Dan's reply:]

>2) It seems beyond me that Amigaworld, *AMIGA*World, wouldn't have shots of
>the
>Workbench.

Well, that apparently seems to be the case. Strange world, isn't it?

So basically, you STILL haven't seen what a 2.04 Workbench looks like.
If you were nearby I'd invite you to see mine. Lovely landscape in the
background, proportional fonts, colorful icons and ToolManager. I can do most
all my work from the WB, and yet thanks to programs opening their own
screens it remains uncluttered and pleasant to use. I've used Windows and
Mac extensively and I can honestly say that the 2.04 WB is the best-looking,
best-operating, and fastest of all three systems. IMHO, of course...

The 1.3 workbench, on the other hand, was pretty bad, but nobody
should be using 1.3 anymore. RIGHT? (Though I do admit to a certain nostalgia
for those big cartoony icons and that silly IBM typewriter font...)

"Thank you, Dr. Science."

[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions they'd probably try to charge me for it.
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From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: Tandy (Was: Re: Educational Software/CDTV)
Keywords: Tandy
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:41:38 GMT

>We have Tandy stores here in the UK, infact they are everywhere. But guess
>what computer they always have on display in the front window...
>
>The Amiga 600 of course.

And are they going to display the CDTV beside their new VIS?  (or
whatever they call it.)

I've seen more TV advertsiments for CD-I and Tandy's box in the last
month then I did for CDTV since it's launch.  (3>0)
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: 1200 questions :)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 04:13:01 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>   1) Where did you get one?  I've called a few places in MD & Fairfax
>      and they deny having any yet!  They didn't even have prices!

Its not conspiracy. Its not out yet. Buried Treasure in Rockville is
having a "pre-release" special for $600.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga Unix/A4000
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:51:03 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <BzIztJ.3Ao@fishpond.uucp>, fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.042142.17763@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>>The current release will not run on the '040, but an update is hopefully in
>>the works.
> 
> Why would you have reason to hope that?  As far as I know there is no
> official support within CBM for any more UNIX development.  There are
> a few people left around in CBM that know enough about UNIX to hack at
> it in their spare time or whatever time they can squeeze from other
> projects without anyone noticing, but there is no guarantee that even
> if they get something running that CBM will release it.  With SVR4.2
> now available for other platforms (Amiga UNIX is an SVR4.0 base), unless
> you already have an Amiga that you'd like to run UNIX on, you're better
> off buying a cheap 50Mz+ 486 system for your UNIX platform.

	I think this is short-sighted on Commodore's part.  A constant low
	level effort to keep Un*x alive on the Amiga series, may pay off
	in the future.  Commodore flopped because their A3000 based system
	was over-priced anmost serious Un*x people realized that 
	Commodore would drop the ball when the going got tough.  And as
	a self fullfilling prophecy, they did.

	Would you buy a car knowing the company would drop repair service
	shortly after you bought it?

> 
> -Fred
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> |\/ o\  Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284,  USA
> |/\__/  1-602-491-0048 {asuvax,mcdphx,cygint,amix}!fishpond!fnf
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization,  My opinions only **

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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Call for Screenshots (was re: AW and Workbench)
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:36:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.181339.20917@athena.mit.edu> fihsu@athena.mit.edu
(Hsu I-wei) writes:

>>Good idea. Why not grab a snapshot of 3.0 and uuencode the GIF and mail
>>it to Dan? In fact, doesn't Skip have his layout on wuarchive?

>3.0? I'm running WB 2.x actually. Of course, if someone from C= wants to send
>me 3.0, I'd be glad to make a snapshot of a 3.0 WB. :) I've seen Skip's
>snapshot of his 3.0 Workbench. Looks great, but in all fairness Dan was
>talking about 2.x.

2.0/3.0 whatever. The aesthetics are virtually the same, with added colour.
By Amiga standards, 2.04 is no longer contemporary either.
From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re:  OS/2 vs Win NT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:12:59 GMT

>Whoaaa! Now just a second here: I just hear from a dealer in El Paso Texas
>that "Microsoft was going to make Windows NT for the Amiga." At the time I
>just said, "yeah right, sure they are... and Irving Gould has left Commodore
>to me as a Christmas gift..." But now I wonder. I hate to get unfounded wild
>speculation going, but this is the second time I've heard of such a thing. 
>Why would Microsoft do that? Wouldn't they do it for the Mac (yech) first?
>Is this just a wild idea or is it really true? Or what?

Well, Microsoft has pledged to port it to every platform that asks,
eventually.

On the other hand, when's the last time Microsoft released ANYTHING for
the Amiga?


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From: robart@agora.rain.com (Joe Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon sucks?
Date: 20 Dec 92 12:27:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.BzK5AJ.4JE
Distribution: world
Organization: a gora

In article <runehy.23.723807995@dhhalden.no> runehy@dhhalden.no (RUNE HYLDMO) writes:
>
>> Falcon sucks!
>
>Does it? Is it any good I mean... it better be since it costs that much, 
>normal mastubating [sic] equipment doesn`t cost 499, does it? But you nerds 
>obviously know more about it than we Atarians do. When you NERDS say that 
>the Falcon sucks, you just give the other Amiga-fantatics another reason to 
>buy it. I mean you are to [sic] DUMB and to [sic] UGLY to get the REAL THING.   


  What REAL THING?
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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: World of Commodore Toronto
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:57:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.170125.12535@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>In article <bn.01co@mndcrme.uoknor.edu> bn@mndcrme.uoknor.edu (Bo Najdrovsky)
>writes:
>
>>I'm also silently hoping that by 4.0 the OS has some sort of
>>memory protection on the MMU equiped processors, but I'm not getting my
>>hopes up.
>
>Unfortunately, it appears that both virtual memory and memory protection are
>not currently ranked high on the list of objectives. At the CBM engineering
>address at the WOC in Toronto, Lew Eggebrecht mentioned that neither of these
>features are currently in the works. Considering the architecture of the OS,
>this is to be expected.

And that is perfectly fine by me.  While virtual memory might indeed be 
useful for some applications, I personally find most VM implementations
to be too slow for my liking.  I realize that others disagree, but the only
machines with VM which are fast enough for me are those with enough main
memory so that VM is rarely if ever used.

If adding either of these features requires any sort of performance decrease,
please count me out.  While the A4000 under 3.0 is indeed fairly quick in
comparison to the other Amigas and other personal computers, it would suffer
if bogged down by a bloated OS.

>In the meantime, let's anticipate what we know is coming: particularly RTG, 
>DSP support and networking.

RTG is certainly worth having and will hopefully get here while AGA is still
competitive.  I want to know more about the DSP support and would like to
know what applications will benefit.  While the prospect of better sound is
attractive, I hope that the DSP will be useful for other applications.  The
NeXT machines have had a DSP for some time as have some of the SGI boxes,
but no personal computers have them as standard equipment.  I have heard
that JPEG, MPEG, and other compression methods will be quicker to encode
and decode with a DSP, but I'd like to know more.

Networking has been possible with Amigas for some time now and I myself have
been using the A2065 Ethernet board with AS225 software for over a year.  It
is fine for my use, but it is not as polished as it should be and there are
several features missing.  I understand that the new software is going to
be a big improvement and I eagerly await its release.

Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate who is very please with C='s latest announcements
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

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From: remilld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jason Remillard)
Subject: Re: ####The "how to get rid of Irving Gould" Top Ten List####
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:21:41 GMT

In <1992Dec17.113110.24435@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham) writes:


>From the home office in Lower East Chester, Pennsylvania, it's the Top 
>Ten ways to get rid of the source of all our sorrows:  Irving Gould.
>Here we go...

><drum roll>

>#10 Make him guest of honnor at NewTek LSD party where Niki can slip him
>    hundred hits of Orange Sunshine.

>#9  Get him drunk, depressed, and into game of "Sudden-Death" Computer
>    Trivial Pursuit with Dave Haynie.

>#8  Display him on 1084 monitor and flicker him to death.

>#7  Get him into a "for keeps" dog fight with ex-Amigoid on PC flight
>    simulator.

>#6  Let original Amiga Loraine team use him as a real dart board.

>#5  Send him to Dallas Amiga Users Group costume party dressed as JFK.

>#4  Convince him of need to travel to Tibet, join monastery, and undertake 
>    20 year study of Blazemonger manual.

>#3  Did I mention Kennedy style head shot?

>#2  Send him on over night camping trip with Marc Barret.

>And the number one method of getting rid of Irving Gould once and for all:

>    Send him to Iraq, frame him as American spy, then send Commodore
>    marketing team to negotiate his release.

Well, you sure as hell wouldn't let the CBM marketing team run 'Restore Hope'!  

	- Nobody would here about it.
	- Those who did wouldn't care.
	- Everybody would laugh.
	- Then someone else would steal the idea and run with it.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jason L.M. Remillard		REMILLARD@ceddwntwn.lan1.umanitoba.ca
MicroLab Assistant		Jason_Remillard@UManitoba.CA
University of Manitoba		REMILLD@ccm.umanitoba.ca
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From: dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND)
Subject: Re:  OS/2 vs Win NT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:14:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.193022.16527@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>
>Let me make this very clear: MICROSOFT WILL NEVER AGAIN DEVELOP SOFTWARE FOR
>THE AMIGA. Period.
>
>At our last company meeting in the "King Dome" we were presented with a
>slide showing some of the risks MS didn't take (ie: the real risks). On
>this slide was listed development for Sun, NeXT and Amiga. Too bad, IMHO.
>Bill managed to neglect what I consider to be the three finest desktop
>platforms avaialble.
>
Hmmmmmmm. That's too bad. Did Lord God Gates mention why he didn't want to
take these "risks?" Or did that come up out of that facetious little smile
of his I find so annoying? 

I'm sorry, I shouldn't be so harsh. I guess it's just that it really annoys me 
that someone with as strong single minded opinions as Bill Gates should so
completely dominate the software industry's direction like this. 

AND THE BILL DID SAY: "This platform doesn't exist!" (chorus of angels, burst of 
sunlight) AND IT WAS SO!!! AND THE BILL DID SAY: Windows is the most glorious 
system that has ever or will ever exist!" AND THE MASSES SAID, "YEA, IT IS SO!"
AND THE BILL DID SMILE AND CLIMB INTO HIS EXPENSIVE SPORTS CAR. AND THERE WAS
MUCH REJOICING.


yaaaaaaaaay.


Oh well, Merry Christmas anyway.

Queen of Swords
Darrell Leland
dleland@nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Amiga Unix/A4000
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:52:11 GMT

In article <BzIztJ.3Ao@fishpond.uucp> fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish) writes:
>>The current release will not run on the '040, but an update is hopefully in
>>the works.

>Why would you have reason to hope that?  As far as I know there is no
>official support within CBM for any more UNIX development.

I personally have little inclination, but for those that made the initial
investment, this would seem like a reasonable demand. Ideally, a freely
distributable version will materialize at some point, but this is all
there is at the moment. 

>With SVR4.2 now available for other platforms (Amiga UNIX is an SVR4.0 base),
>unless you already have an Amiga that you'd like to run UNIX on, you're better
>off buying a cheap 50Mz+ 486 system for your UNIX platform.

Unfortunately, buying multiple platforms is not always a viable option.
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs Win NT (was: 4 Colour Interfaces : -( )
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:18:01 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

re article by Evan Torrie "I was very surprised when [InfoWorld] reviewed
NextStep 486 .... most magazines are more responsible than to review beta
software."  

Most magazines DO review beta software -- the production versions usually
aren't available with the lead time required for reviews to appear at the
time the software is available.  As for InfoWorld -- as I was trying to do
some -gag- Excel spreadsheeting last week, someone came over and sat down
next to me, to spread the pain he was feeling reading InfoWorld.  He
particularly objected to the comparison showing the alleged superiority of
Microsoft's new sound board over its competitors.  He also pointed out that
the former editor in chief of the magazine was still on the masthead, at a
significantly less important position.


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: OS3.1 - 720x480 NI
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:28:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.071604.10539@midway.uchicago.edu> sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I have heard a rumor (yes, a rumor I have not yet seen here) that version
>3.1 of the os will:
>
>	1) Center the screen properly
>	2) Up the max NI mode to 720x482 in order to please MB :)
>
>Well, in the truest sense of c.s.a.a, is there any truth to this?

   I don't know anything about the rumor (I suspect that the limitations in
non-interlaced resolution are hardware, though), but it would not "please" me
if they "fixed" it.  I expected 800x600 non-interlaced resolutions from the
AGA chipset, and nothing less would satisfy me.  What I was mad about was the
fact that not only did the non-interlaced resolution not improve at all from
the A3000 to the A4000 -- as it should have -- but Commodore had the audacity
to **DECREASE** it.  As I have said a number of times, the magnitude of this
decrease was not the point.  If the resolution had only drop by one scan line,
I would still have been upset.  The whole point was that the resolution did 
not improve but actually got worse.

>________________________________________________________________________________Steven Chmura				University of Chicago Medical School(M1)
>  "Given enough time, the impossible becomes probable, and the probable
>	inevitable.."  -George Wald, "On the Origins of Life"
>

---
| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
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From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.misc,rec.games.chess
Subject: UChess101.lha
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:21:27 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

Please make sure, if you get UChess from ftp, that you get
the UChess101.lha archive, not Uchess.lha, the UChess101.lha
has much nicer 16 color graphics than the older one,
other than that they are identical.

-Roger
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bix: ruzun
NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Alpha Amigas: HUH?! Re: OS/2 vs Win NT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:01:12 GMT

People on this group talk about a 'RISC' Amiga, or 'Alpha' AMiga.
Isn't an Amiga defined by AMigaDOS and the extensive use of the
graphics chips??

With NT or whatever, wouldn't this shoot to hell WHAT the label
on the computer says?
--
Dan Stephenson                                         das9674@usl.edu  
"Yes Dan, I have heard of Ultima Underworld.  From my point of view it
 appears to be a rather large stick which you seem to be using to beat
 everbody in this group with." -Mark Steyn
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:52:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <SUOPANKI.92Dec11232419@stekt6.oulu.fi> <71527@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Dec12.210706.22841@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>

>
>>the comment that stuck with me was when he said, in reference
>>to the "multimedia" nature of this recent COMDEX, "Five years ago
>>Commodore OWNED the multimedia market."
>
>
>Geese there is paranoia running rampant in this group.  I've always thought
>those guys on Computer Chronicles liked the Amiga and seem to go out of
>there way to make favorable mention of it.
>
>I'll bet the comment referred to the fact that Commodore is leading the
>damn way and the other folks are just now waking up.  I can remember when
>IBM said you didn't need color or gfx for computers because all the "real"
>applications were text based. 
>
>
>                                    NCW
> 

Yup, that's me. Dr. Paranoia. Well, I didn't know CC was going to
mention CBM's booth else I would have taped it so I could have run
Chiefet's comments thru a voice stress analyzer (yeah right..
as though I have one).  But you're right, his short comment could
be take either way:

- "Commodore has been doing 'multimedia' as a matter of course for
years, due to the Amiga's brilliantly-conceived architecture that
all these Johnny-Come-Latelys are now only discovering, hooray for
Commodore being such a visionary company"!

or

-"Commodore had the lead in multimedia personal computing years
ago but they went nowhere with it due to a distinct lack of
marketing and name recognition and now the other players in the
desktop computer industry have pulled to within  passing distance or
have already passed them."

I spose it depends if yer a member of the half-empty or half-full
club as to which way you would interpret his words.

Harv
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From: m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg)
Subject: What is BLAZEMONGER ?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:48:37 GMT


What is BLAZEMONGER ?


/Mattias

_______
Mattias Myrberg

m92mmy@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se
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