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Subject: Re: taunting for 15
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 10:16:00 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
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In article <1992Sep9.143204.20357@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.14.716045470@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Evil Sheriff of Dodge City) writes:
>>During the 9ers/NYG game, I believe there were 2 taunting calls. 15yard
>>loss.  (how are you supposed to be psyched up as a defense and 
>>suppress yourself at the same time)
>>
>I use to be weekend warrior playing basketball, football (I still play
>volleyball) and also lettered in 3 sports in high school.  In the heat
>of a game (even volleyball) it is natural to try to demoralize your
>opponent.  Sometimes you get in players face or make some physcial contact
>to let know you can "kick" their butt (usually figuratively).  IMHO the >taunting rule is idiotic if they are going to throw the flag just because 
>their is name calling or fingers being pointed (Jeesh!).  I believe it is 
>part of the game.

Taunting shouldn't be part of the game.   While I'll agree that the
interpretation by the refs will make for very inconsistent calls.
If you need to get psyched, go back to your teammates and butt heads,
give high 5's, dog/pig-pile, whatever.  It is not natural to demoralize
your opponent, it only seems that way due to conditioning and repetition
of these actions.  
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From: floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich)
Subject: Re: Cowboy Super Bowl (Was: Re: The Niners are the favorites.)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:56:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.215936.4557@techbook.com> psilva@techbook.com (Paul Silva) writes:
>>psilva@agora.rain.com (Paul Silva) writes:
>
>>>  [Dallas] hadn't done anything consistantly for about a 
>>>  decade (except lose) and we're supposed to believe the current group in 
>>>  Dallas with a successful year last year is the second coming of the 
>>>  1970s teams?

>>Dallas had records of 7-9, 3-13, 1-15, and 7-9 over a 4 year streak from 1986
>>to 1990.  They won the division in 1985.  Yet they consistently lose?  They 
>>lost a bunch of games 2 seasons. That hardly constitutes a decade of 
>>consistent losing, now does it?

>  So the '85 season was an anomaly.  What was their record and how did
>  they do in the playoffs that year?  While you're at it, and to complete
>  their picture of overall mediocrity the past decade, tell us how they 
>  did before that season and after "the catch." 

Last 10 years record:
82	 6- 3
83	12- 4
84	 9- 7
85	10- 6
86	 7- 9
87	 7- 8
88	 3-13
89	 1-15   (yeah, they sucked 4-28 for 2 seasons)
90	 7- 9
91	11- 5
Total	73-79

OK, Dallas is just under .500 for the last decade.  They have had 3 solid
seasons, 2 pathetic seasons, and 5 absolutely mediocre seasons.  They
consistently lost for 2 years (the last half of 86, too).  All I am saying
is that as bad as they were for 2 years, they did not consistently lose
for an entire decade as you said.  Certainly if 10-win seasons outnumber
10-loss seasons, they are far from an anomoly.

Look at the rest of the decade excluding their 2 horrible seasons:  69-51.
Not exactly dominant, by any means.  Way behind the 49ers, in fact.  I'm
not arguing that, and I'm not arguing that they are anywhere as good as
their consistently dominant teams of the 70s, but they were not consistent
losers over an entire decade.

In your first post, you state: 
"[Dallas] hadn't done anything consistantly for about a decade (except lose)"
And now you ask me to "complete their picture of overall mediocrity the past 
decade."

Please clarify if you mean they were mediocre for a decade or if they
consistently lost for a decade.  Absolutely no argument with the former,
but a question on what "consistently" means if you claim the latter.


Floyd Goodrich 
floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 17:30:21 CET
From: RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Smith is NOT Sanders is NOT Thomas is NOT...
 <1992Sep9.220408.16299@leland.Stanford.EDU> <18njbnINNr5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

(original post and numerous follow-ups not included)

When it comes to talent, I would not exclude Dickerson and Herschel
from the discussion. I know both aren't very popular, but it's a
new setup for both this year, and things could be very different
from the last few years.
I'm sure Dickerson has the most total yards of all at this time.
Probably, Marcus Allen is the only active RB to have more.

Rene Zandbergen
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From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Re: 49er's Seifert - DUMP COFER
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:29:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.160012.4537@sequent.com>, newson@sequent.com (Newson) writes:
>In article <holly.210@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
>>
>>I've been saying this for 3 years.  Dump Cofer.  We won't get to Superbowl 
>>with him there.  Think Seifert's on the net?
>>-----
>>holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
>
>He doesn't need to be on the net to get this message, if he didn't get it 
>yesterday, he won't get it. Daluiso is available isn't he?

    No, Daluiso signed with Denver as the kickoff specialist.  Eddie Murray
(ex-Lion) is availiable though.
>
>newson

Edward Hui
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Me)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: FINAL - Niners vs Bills
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep14.153526.11364@clpd.kodak.com>, hammond@sys6.serum.kodak.com (Kevin Hammond (x37516)) writes...
>No gloating from this Bills fan.  The Bills beat the 9'ers, it was a big 
>win, but both teams deserved to win.  The Bills defense was HORRIBLE again.
>This is the 3rd consecutive year that the Bills have put a very bad defense
>on the field.  Granted, they have a very young secondary now (except for 
>old man Kelso, the slowest free saftey in the league - yeah, but he can't 
>tackle either) and hopefully they will get better with experience, but 
>yesterday's performance was not encouraging.

I would have to think Dana Hall rather slow--any safety who can't haul down Pete
Metzelaars over a fifty-yard course deserves rocket boosters...

RUNNER	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	TD
Thomas	19	85	4.5	1	4	94	1
Sanders	26	66	2.5	0	2	14	0
Smith	23	89	3.9	1	8	55	0

Note:  All runners compared against superior NFC teams for equality (wouldn't
want any of those inferior AFC teams skewering the stats...;)

					---Chet
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From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Subject: Re: If Walker should fail.
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:42:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.030856.19529@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.191326.10906@uwm.edu>, melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes:
>> In article <10415@disc.dla.mil> i001804@disc.dla.mil (mary green) writes:
>>>
>> 
>> 	Come on. I heard this for 3 season with Minnesota. We had a few
>> 	All-Pro off lineman and Walker still didnt look all that great.
>> 	I saw Walkers stats, and he was like 12-12. You need to give
>> 	him the ball more than 12 times. More like about 100 times,
>> 	then he could be 100-100. He just doesnt look like he runs
>> 	hard anymore, very cautiously, and I just dont see him having
>> 	a good year with anyone anymore.
>> 
>> 							Mark Gresbach
>> 							GO VIKINGS
>
>Herschel runs for 100+ against a very good New Orleans defense. The H-Train
>will rush for 1000 yards this season barring injury of course.-- 
>

	Like I said above. I have heard this before! Walker ran for 148 yds
	in his first game with Minnesota. big deal. After 6-8 games, look
	and if he is above 500 yds rushing, I eat crow. I just dont see
	it happening though. Only time will tell.

							Mark Gresbach
							GO VIKINGS!

From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:37:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Raiders Starting QB?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro


Jay "The Scud"  Schrader  started  for the  Broncos.  God knows, the Broncs
couldn't have won without him!

-- LSC
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Week 1
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:49:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



* Saw the Rams-Bills game. It was a total rout in every sense of the
  word. The Rams have serious problems, on offense and defense.
  Everett was constantly forced to throw off the back-foot as the
  OLine just gave way before him.

* The Raiders played a great game [on defense, at least]. They made
  one mistake. They gave the ball to Elway with the game on the line
  with 2:50 to go. 

* Mr. Schroeder, please take this clip-board, thank you. 

* Yo Todd... dude?
  want to play football after the party? Some ol' geezer named Al is
  waiting by the door to take you to the stadium in a way cool
  limo. Seems like the game starts in half-an-hour.

* The 40whiner players might get their secret wish. Bono may
  play QB for a while longer than expected.

* Gotta feel for Joe Bugel.. loses his starting QB 2 years in a
  row.

* Minnehaha finally won a big div. game on the road on grass. 

* Mr. Cunningham, have you hugged Hershel Walker today?

* Hank Stram is the best color-man on NBC; and he is even better
  on the radio.

* KC is over-rated.



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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas 23 Washington 10
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:59:36 GMT
    <1992Sep8.052459.2111@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Sep8.052459.2111@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>, stapleto@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Kathy Stapleton) writes:
>     Does anyone out there have any ideas as to WHY the Redskins were
>not up to their Super Bowl form????  

One reason is holdouts.  The Redskins depend on massive coaching.  Green,
Lachey, and Rypien all looked like they need ten more weeks of training
camp.

>I hear that Gibbs was saying that
>the offense has been very unorganized as of late...and even though I
>am a loyal Skin fan through and through, I cannot say even ONE nice
>thing about this darn game.  Not ONE!  

The Redskins WRs all looked good.  Howard won't get a starting position this
year (barring injury).

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Monday Night Football announcers are terrible
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:03:43 GMT
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx


    The one quote that cracked me up was made by FGifford.  Referring to
Emmitt's goal of a 2000yd season, he said that a goal of 125 yards per
CARRY was not unrealistic.  Reality, what a concept!  :)
From: hrad@ellis.uchicago.edu (Vince)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Summerall/Lundquist/Madden (was: Re: NFL Announcers)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:24:15 GMT
Reply-To: hrad@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <jjonsson.146@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>I wonder how many of you noticed that the 49er/Giant game was done by Vern 
>Lundquist and John Madden, not Pat Summerall. Does anyone have the scoop on 
>Summerall, is he back in Alcohol treatment again?
>

He was actually in New York covering the U.S. Open Tennis
Tournament for CBS.  He'll be there this weekend also, so
we'll have to wait until week 3.  Yeah... I watch tennis,
too.  Not as much contact, but still a great sport.

Vince
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From: dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd)
Subject: National Television
Reply-To: dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:43:04 GMT


Does anyone have a list of which games will be broadcast on National T.V.
each week this season?  I know, of course, about the Sunday night games on TNT,
and all the Monday night games.  But I need to know which Sunday games are
going to be Nationally covered by CBS and NBC.


Thanks!

-Don Todd


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From: Stephen I Miller <similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Browns/Colts
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:02:09 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Just got back from seeing the debacle in Indianapolis a couple of hours ago and
I still can't believe that the Browns offensive line is this bad.  No (I MEAN 
NO ONE) could stop the Colts defensive players on the right side of the line.  
That is where all of Bernie's sacks came from.  He had virtually no time to set
up and pass the entire game.  When Vardell and Hoard were in there together 
they made a good team.  Vardell would block for Hoard and vice versa.  The 
problem was that once one of them blocked there was no one else on the Browns 
to help with another block.  Not having Slaughter, Brenner, and Slaughter (who
scored a touchdown fro the Colts) is really showing how inexperienced our 
receivers are.

On a good note I'd like to thank the Indiana Browns Backers for the great party
they threw Saturday night and the Picnic they set up before the game.  It was 
great to see such a hugh crowd of Browns fans marching down the street before 
the game to the Hoosier Dome.  It would have been nice if the Browns had showed
up too.

Oh well.  Hopefully my tickets to the Miami game won't be as big a loss as 
todays were.

Go Browns.

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From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Giants QB controversy (again)
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:46:14 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1992Sep10.044127.17844@PacBell.COM> (John P. Gloria) writes:
>The CNN Sports Night reported that Handley has picked
>Phil Simms as next week's starting QB.
>
>I am at odds on who should be the starting QB since I
>am NOT a NYG fan.  

I'm a big Simms fan, however my rose-colored glasses cracked with his terrible
game against the Bengals last year, and shattered with this year's opener
against the 9ers. IMO, Hoss is the better QB at this point in time.
(Watch, this means he will play well against the Boys, having said this.)

>Perhaps Handley's persona rubs me
>the wrong way, but I did not like his media interview.

It's a dramatic change from Bill who could really work the media.

>This seemed to imply that depending on
>Simms workouts or Hoss's workouts, OR how the coach
>feels, will determine the starting QB.  

Handley has been saying since last year that Hoss is the starting QB. He was
the starting QB going into training camp. So why is Hoss now on the bench when
he is healthy? Talk about mixed signals to the players...

>He stated that he wanted continuity.

Continuity? Someone remind Ray how _poorly_ Simms played last Sunday. 

>I can't believe I said that, I dislike the Cowboys...

I knew I liked you, John.

> ... as much as the Giants.

You know, I never did like you. :-)
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From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: Joe Montana and other QB's
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 00:55:16 GMT

<Bu0q56.GEs@acsu.buffalo.edu> v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!) said:
>	Does everyone rememebr how Roger Starbaugh(sp) went out of the
>game.....with a pass to his own lineman and 20 flags thrown in his face.  I
>think that Joe Montana should retire going out as a well respected QB, rather
>than be known as someone who kept wanting to play, even if he was physically
>unable to do so.  

Excuse me, but you imply here that Staubach was so feeble that he threw
the ball to his lineman instead to a wife-open receiver.  That was
hardly the case.  It was the last offensive play of the game for Dallas
in a playoff game.  Staubach was setting up a screen and the lineman
who caught it was right where the running back should have been.
Staubach was being sacked at the time.  Staubach retired, not because his
skills were eroded (he had just lead the Cowboys from behind twice against
Washington the week before to make the playoffs), but because his doctors
advised him it would be best since he had received so many concussions in
so short a time.

Note: this is not a flame of you.  Just clarifying what appears to be an
implied slight of a great qb.


Gordon
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From: roat@rrc.chevron.com (Suzanne Roat,Chevron,(510)242-5313)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Battle Of The Titans!
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:15:42 GMT
Reply-To: roat@rrc.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, Richmond, California

In article 6815@morrow.stanford.edu, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>
>First let me congratulate the both teams for playing an outstanding
>game!!!  Both teams were deserving of the victory.  Way to go
>Buffalo and San Francisco!!  This could be the battle of the century
>if these two teams make it to the Super Bowl!
>
>I'm still in awe of that awesome offensive display from both teams!
>
>
>                                                  Tony
>                                               GO 49ERS!!!


And NO PUNTS!!!  When was the last time this happened?  Anybody know?

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From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phil Dietz)
Subject: Re: Steelers win at Houston! (ESPN sux)
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:57:43 GMT

htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>I was worried about Pittsburgh's secondary, but apparently Moon had
>five or six interceptions. Does anyone know if Woodson played? I didn't
>get the game here in central Mass., but they did televise that fake punt
>as a highlight! I will be looking for O'Donnell's stats...

>A great win for coach Cowher. The Jets are next!

Woodson did play, and he had a critical INT in the endzone to save a winning
Houston score.

The win over Houston made me scream for joy.  All the pre-game shows
Sunday morning were ranting and raving how Houston was going to trash
Pitt. with their poor secondary.  Joe Thiesman of ESPN made a point to say
just how sad he thought Pitt's secondary was.....all I can say is that
I hope the crow tasted real well.

5 ints is excellent.  The secondary was the reason why Pittsburgh
beat the Oilers.  

I hope Joe and that other anti-steeler anouncer (the black guy) on ESPN 
enjoyed seeing their predictions turn sour.  Maybe they'll learn not to open
their mouth's so often with their god-like predictions (Ha :-)



--
   I'm not a PowerLifting Tele-Evangelist                     Phil Dietz
           although I DID play                        pdietz@cse.unl.edu
              one on TV!                          University Of Nebraska
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From: daled@meaddata.com (Dale Drummond)
Subject: Where's Broussard?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:32:21 GMT
Distribution: usa

Anyone know what's happened to Steve Broussard, RB for the Falcons?


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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo loses another player on Defense
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:36:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep5.124940.5304@ncsu.edu>, easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ) writes...
>I thought Reggie appeared to be "decent" enough the few times he actually
>got in the game.  He played well against the Colts as I remember.  He 
>was no Reggie White, but he was 100000000000% better than Lodish.
>Unfortunately for Bills fans, that guy that is still chewing the yellow
>stir-stick (the Bills idiot def. coor.) felt that Lodish was worth 
>keeping so got rid of Rogers.  (BTW, most def. coor. that want to
>coach in the NFL realize that a NT needs to weigh in at more than
>the starting linebackers.)


I disagree. The difference between Reggie Rogers and Mike Lodish is
the most basic skill that a DL must possess - quickness off the
ball. Rogers has none and what Lodish lacks in size he makes up for
in quickness and aggressiveness. (He is not very good at closing the
gap on running plays however and that is why many people don't like
him.)

Rogers has done the same thing in Detroit, Buffalo and I fear it
will be the same in Tampa Bay: He shows some remarkable talent in
training camp and preseason, but come the regular season, he becomes
a total stiff.


Doug


                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: paul@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Paul Asmar)
Subject: Re: Rypien?  Is he the next Schroeder 
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:01:19 GMT

In article <BuDD0o.MzB@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper) writes:
>Rypien is a perfect example of how a brilliant system, coach, and collection
>of players can make a marginally above average quarterback look like a 
>Superbowl MVP.  There are probably 10-15 QBs in the league who could have
>won a Superbowl in Rypien's jersey last season.  And then he asks for four
>million bucks a year.  How fortune does smile on the few.

This is bullshit! As I have stated before, you have to give credit where
credit is due.  You mean to tell me that 10-15 QBs in the NFL can throw
the long ball as well as Mark Rypien and make as few mistakes as he did
last year.  No way!!  There aren't very many in the same caliber.  Last year,
he performed as well as any other QB in the league, and he got the job done.
I am not even a Redskin fan, and it's very obvious.  Based on his performance
on the field, he deserves to be paid as a top-rate QB because he played
an *essential* role the Redskins winning it all last year.  You're TOTALLY
wrong!!!

>Peter Brown

					- Paul

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