From: richard@astro.West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: REC.NUDE Nude Beaches Etc. FAQ: Not California
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:37:24 GMT
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This is one of 2 volumes of the REC.NUDE Nude Beaches Etc. FAQ.  The
purpose of this FAQ is to list some brief information on a variety of
clothing optional locales that are frequently mentioned on rec.nude.
This FAQ cannot be a replacement for a more thorough source such as
the World Guide (see the REC.NUDE Frequently Asked Questions, Part II
of II).  As you can see from this FAQ, there are CO locales all over
the place.  If you don't see one near you here or want more information
about these, feel free to ask the rec.nude assemblage.

The author of this FAQ takes no responsibility for the accuracy of the
information contained herein.  Updates to these entries are greatly
appreciated; this FAQ is only as good as you make it.

This volume covers the United States (except for California) and Canada

In this issue:
	LITTLE BEACH, HI
	WRECK BEACH, BC
	ROOSTER ROCK, OR
	SAUVIE ISLAND, OR
	HIPPIE HOLLOW, TX
	GRACY COVE, TX
	PLAYALINDA, FL
	SANDY HOOK, NJ
	MEECH LAKE, Que
	MAZO BEACH, WI


LITTLE BEACH (or Little Makena) is
a bit south of the town of Kihei on the south west coast of Maui.
Very laid back, a mixture of nude, gay, and textile.  Currently no
law enforcement problems.  Sandy beach, moderate waves, wooded backdrop.
Gawkers and harrasment is rare and is dealt with by the regulars.  Many
local people as well as tourists.  No lifeguards.  No showers.  A toilet
on the nearby textile beach.

Support group:
	The Friends of Little Beach
	PO Box 483
	Kihei,  Maui,  Wawaii  96733
They put out a newsletter at irregular (aproximately quarterly) intervals.
Write for a subscription.  (Donation for postage (at least) suggested).

To get there:
* From Kahului (airport area):
Take Mokulele highway (route 350) south toward Kihei.  Take S. Kihei Rd thru
Kihei or bypass Kihei by turning off onto Pilani highway (route 31).
* From the Lahaina, Kaanapali or Kapalua areas (northeast Maui):
Take highway 30 south toward Kihei and join either S. Kihei Rd or Pilani highway
and follow it south as above.

Next:
* From S. Kihei Rd turn left onto Kilohana drive and right onto Wailea
Alanui Drive.  Then follow common directions below.
* From Pilani highway, turn right at the end onto Kilohana drive and
left onto Wailea Alanui drive.  Note: If the proposed extension of
Pilani highway has been finished, Kilohana drive may no longer be the
end.  Then follow common directions below.

Common directions:
Follow Walia Alanui Drive (which becomes Makena Road) past condos, golf
courses, and hotels.  A mile or so after the Maui Prince Hotel, watch
the blacktop for a distinct change in texture/color (It used to become
a dirt road there).  A few hundred feet further, look for a turnoff to
the right.  The turnoff is mostly dirt with some old blacktop remaining.
There is a small dirt parking area at the end, but unless you are very
early or fairly late it will be full.  Park wherever you can and walk
to the beach.  This is "big beach", a very nice beach in spite of being
textile.  Walk toward the right until you get to some rocks.  Depending
on the state of the tide and beach erosion, the water may be well back
from the climbing spot or you may have to get wet getting there.  The
climb is about 12-15 feet and very easy to make.  From the top, there
is a gentle slope down to little beach.  ENJOY!!!  Please take your
trash out with you.

Suggested place to stay if you don't like resort hotels (Personal
endorsement from Rich Greenberg):
	Contact Roberta Dalson
        PO Box 1698
        Hihei, HI  96753
        808-879-7818
She has several houses (2 to 4 people), and several single rooms to rent.
Located at the south end of Kihei.  Two of the houses (adjacent to each
other) are private enough for nudity in the yard.

Aproximate drive times:
From north end of Kihei to:
	South end of Kihei - 10-15 mins
	Kahalui, airport - 20-30 mins
	Lahina - 20-30 mins.
	Kaanapali - 30-40 mins
	Kapalua - 40-50 mins
	Little Beach - 20-30 mins
Kihei is a few blocks e-w, several miles n-s along the coast.  South Kihei
Road is the main n-s road thru town.  Pilani highway parallels it just east
of Kihei.  Kihei is NOT a major resort area as is Lahina, Kaanapali and
Kapalua.  Its a pleasant place to visit, shop, eat, or stay.
	[Original from Rich Greenberg (richg@hatch.socal.com)]


WRECK BEACH--University of British Columbia campus, Marine Drive.  Look
for trail 6 (check?--that may not be the right number, but it's across
the street from one of the residence complexes and you can park there
on weekends if you can't find a spot on Marine Drive).  Go down the
steps, a little steep but no big deal, past the official-looking signs
informing visitors that clothing is optional (the signs on the way back
request that you wear clothing beyond this point).  You can also pick up
one of UBC's glossy, colourful visitors' maps and the trails to Wreck
Beach are indicated.  There is a more secluded and very rocky area at
the end of the steps that begin/end at either one of the gardens or
the anthropology museum.  Not a great place if you want to swim, but
for those of you who go solely for sunbathing it's probably OK if you
want a quiet place.  The main beach is often rather crowded but not
oppressively so.  Definitely worth a visit or several!
	[Original from Robert Paolino (rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu)]


ROOSTER ROCK STATE PARK on the Columbia River is located 20 miles east
of Portland on Interstate 84.  The CO area is marked with signs.  Just
drive in the main gate and turn right (east).  Follow to the end of the
parking lot.  At the end of the east parking lot is a restroom.  About
40 feet from the restroom is a stairway.  Draw an imaginary line along
the stairway down to the river and up the bank and to the south.  The
state sanctioned CO section is on the east end of that line.  There
is a sign on the stairway noting that.  You have the trees for walking
through the trails (yes there are insects), plus several miles of beach
(you can walk completely around the island during low water...  which
we have this year.....which is about a 3-4 mile walk).  It is all sand,
also.

Rooster Rock has lots of parking ($2/day in 1992) patroled by park staff
and state police, public restrooms with running water which are cleaned
at least daily.  Rooster Rock has it's own exit off I-84, a boat launch,
picnic facilities.  In short it is a beautiful park in a beautiful place
used by anyone and everyone that wants to visit, just like any state park
in any state of the country.  Except for one section, the beach area on
the east end of the park is CO, has been for years, maybe forever.  It
is allowed to be CO because it is not illegal to be nude in public in
the state of Oregon.  We like it that way.
	[Original from Jim Boland (jimb@loowit.wr.tek.com)
	and David Haight (davidh8@pogo.wv.tek.com)]


SAUVIE ISLAND is about 20 miles NW of Portland on US-30 to Astoria.
Drive across the bridge and follow signs to beaches....specifically
Reeder Beach.  Go past it.  Go past the moorage to the store.  Stop
at the store to get a parking permit.  You'll need it.  You will pass
a beach that has a "dike" on the river side and parking on the left.
You will go up a rise and the road turns to a gravel road.  This is
about 12 miles from the bridge.  Go about 1/2 to 1 mile.  You will see
a parking area on the left.  Park there.  Cross the gravel road.  There
are several places to go through the trees.  Go through.  Walk 100+ yards
and you will be on the beach.  Several Miles of CO sand beach.
	[Original from Jim Boland (jimb@loowit.wr.tek.com)]


HIPPIE HOLLOW is about 16 miles out of downtown Austin on Lake Travis,
off Comanche Trail Road which is off of Route 620 west of Austin.
Travis County now runs it.  It is situated on the lake facing south
with wonderful rugged flat rocks that step down into the lake.  In the
summer the average temperature of the air is in the mid to upper 90's.
The water averages in the lower 80's.  It is a wonderful place to go.
About half of it is developed (1990).  The undeveloped half is largely
considered the Gay beach.

There are regular patrols in the area looking for troublemakers.  Most
of the patrols are county workers who call in the law when trouble arises.
The nudists keep the area clean and nice for the next visitors.  Park
employees filtered through the area several times, picking up rubbish,
and making us feel good.  The Sheriffs' boat comes by occasionally.  Cost
is $5 (1992 price; good for all Travis County Parks that day), and the
gates are open until 8 p.m.
	[Original from Bil Snodgrass (snodgras@lclark.edu)
	and John Hendry (HENDRY@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU)]


GRACY COVE is a bit of a longer drive than indicated in the World Guide,
but it is well worth it.  The entrance to the park is about 4 miles off
Texas 71.  Be sure and get a map at the entrance.  Day visits cost $5
(1992 price; good for all Travis County Parks that day).  Travis County
Sheriffs Deputies are known to make visits to Gracy Cove to ticket the
nudes.  Be advised to dress ASAP if you see a sheriffs boat.  Since top-
less is legal, there should be no problem there.  If you think you might
want to camp, check out Pace Bend Park.  It is a very nice area, and
camping is reasonable.  (I'm sorry, I didn't get the price.)
	[Original from John Hendry (HENDRY@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU)]


PLAYALINDA is located near the space shuttle launch area at Cape Canaveral.
Take the SR 406/Titusville exit from I-95.  Go east.  From Titusville,
take Rt. 406 to Rt. 402 to the Canaveral National Seashore Turn left, and
go for 5 miles to parking lot 13 or as far north as possible to avoid a
long walk.  The nude area starts north of the last dune crossover north
of parking lot 13, around marker 74.

If Playalinda is closed for a launch, try South Apollo, aka Klondike
Beach.  Take the New Smyrna Beach/Highway 44 exit off of I-95.  Go east.
From the intersection of Highway 44 and A1A near New Smyrna Beach, go
south for 8 miles and park in parking lot 5 or as far south as possible.
Walk to the right, south of parking lot 5, to marker 29, where the nude
area begins.

NOTE:  DO NOT walk in the dunes or carry glass bottles to the beach.
Both will cost you a $25 fine if caught and ticketed.

Call (407) 951-2908 for more details.
	[Original from Steve Pierce (steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us)]


SANDY HOOK: From the North take the Garden State Parkway to exit 117.
Follow the signs to Sandy Hook.  When you arrive, ask the ranger at the
gate for directions to the nude beach (Gunnison), Parking lot G.  When
you get to the beach, walk down and bare to the right.

From the South on the Garden State Parkway, look for signs for Route
36E, exit 105.  Follow 36E all the way to 1 block short of the ocean &
turn left to continue on rt 36 to Sandy Hook.
	[Original from "unknown"]


MEECH LAKE is located in Gatineau Park, just across the Ottawa River from
Ottawa in Quebec.  It has a couple of beach areas that are frequented by
nudists.  These beaches are not officially CO, but they have existed for
a number of years and no one seems to make a fuss.

Pick up Highway 5 in Quebec and follow it to the town of Old Chelsea.
After exiting the highway, turn left and proceed into Gatineau park.
The road you are on will take you directly to the lake, although some
park signs may suggest that you take a longer route.  When approaching
the lake, you may see a small government sign for "O'Brien House".  A
few yards later is a parking lot for "O'Brien Beach".  This is the lot
that you want.  Parking is $5.50/day (1992 prices), with summer passes
also available ($30.00), but it is limited and does fill up.  Alternative
parking is hard to find, and cars parked illegally tend to disappear.

The path leading directly to the lake (at the far end of the parking
lot) leads to O'Brien Beach, a typical textile beach.  The path you
want crosses the gravel road leading to O'Brien House and proceeds up
a large hill.  It then runs alongside the road for a few yards before
turning into the woods.  You will eventually come to a very steep hill
leading down to the lake.  The gravel on the hill is maintained a bit,
but you will probably want good shoes for this part.  Also remember that
you are going to have to come up this hill at the end of the day.  At
the bottom of the hill, a wooden bridge crosses a small stream.  This
stream flows between the main lake (on the left) and a smaller sub-lake
(on the right).  There are CO beaches on both of these lakes.

The main area used by sun lovers is at the far end of the smaller
sub-lake, at the ruins of an old mill (the Carbide Wilson Ruins; worth
exploring).  A few yards past the bridge there is a small path leading
off to the right.  Though this goes to the place you want, second right
after the bridge is a better path.  This path is wide enough for vehicles
(only maintenance traffic is allowed and it is rare), and is much easier
going.  Since this beach is mostly rock, many people bring air mattresses
to make things more comfortable.  These are also good for floating around
in the lagoon and the far end of the small lake.

The second area that is used by nudists is on the main lake.  After
crossing the wooden bridge, take the first path to the left rather
than to the right.  This will lead to a very small sandy beach and a
small grassy area.  This space will only hold a handful of people, but
it is a nice place to sit and the entrance to the water is very gradual.
This is the area I like to take my kids to, and they love to play at the
water's edge.  This area has only recently been used by nudists and you
are more likely to encounter clothed people here.  This has never been
a problem, however.

Remember that this is real forest area.  You are not going to find toilets
or a Coke machine.  You should be prepared to clean up after yourself and
carry out whatever you carried in.  What you will find are some beautiful
lakes and wilderness to enjoy, naturally.  The stores near the highway
are a good (but expensive) place to pick-up last minute supplies.
	[Original from Andrew Patrick (andrew@calvin.dgbt.doc.ca)]


MAZO BEACH, on the Wisconsin River near Madison, is a lovely, peaceful,
respectful little sandbar among the willows, the loons and the gentle
running water.  Across the river are tree lined bluffs, and a hundred
feet away, across a shallow soft-sand strait, is another little sandbar.
Unfortunately, the water is rather shallow, in some places barely enough for
swimming, in other places little more than ankle deep.

Take US 14 out of Madison to Mazomanie (check your cheese state map).
When you get to the town, take a right onto County Y.  After about 4
miles, turn left onto Laws Road, which leads to a gravel road.  You'll
know it by all the cars driving into or out of it.  You'll definitely
know it when you see all the cars parked along the side of the road.
The road ends in a small parking lot.  The river is to the right.
You'll see just a few people when you first get onto the beach, but
keep going to the right of where you came in.  Don't plan on finding a
space in the lot unless you go late enough in the afternoon that some
people have started to leave or early in the morning; otherwise, grab
a spot roadside when you find one.
	[Original from Bill Pfeiffer (wdp@chinet.chi.il.us)
	and Robert Paolino (rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu)]
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