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From: TOGE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Nobukazu Toge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: TouchBase on Quadra
Date: 12 Sep 92 07:20:59 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Perhaps I should ask the publisher directly, but let me ask here anyway.
TouchBase (the version I have is 2.0a) crashes on Quadra 900 if
040 Cache is turned on.  Is there an updated version of TouchBase that
won't do this?   Thank you, in advance, for your comments

- Nobu Toge (toge@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu)
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From: tim@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Persian/Farsi system found.
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:19:21 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hi,

   When I expressed an interest in a Farsi or Persian system or font set, I
was flood with request of "Yeah, me too!" so I am posting to let you know
where we found it.  

   A company named LINGUIST'S SOFTWARE sells several products that offer
different systems and font sets.  One of which is Persian.

   The name and address of the company are below, but we were able to purchase
the product through MacZone.

		LINQUIST'S SOFTWARE
		P.O. BOX 580
		EDMONDS, WA, USA  98020-0580
		(206) 775-1130 voice
		(206) 771-5911 fax

						Thanks again.
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From: mike.w.miller.40@nd.edu (Mike!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: AppleShare 3.0 Oddities
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:02:11 GMT
Organization: Office of University Computing, Notre Dame

Are there other LAN administrators who have noticed strange behavior with
AppleShare 3.0 and want to discuss them?  I manage eight Mac LANs for over
300 Macs and after  upgrading them all in the last 45 days have been
experience consistantly flaky behavior in a variety of manors.

Others?

Mike!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: MS Word 5.0 Settings File Location?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:31:40 GMT

I am being driven insane by MS Word 5.0 and 
the location of its settings file.  I find
settings files at numerous locations around
my hard disk.  It seems that whenever I make a
change to my preferences, it creates a settings
file wherever MS Word happens to be pointing,
i.e. where I last openned or saved a file.

At times, MS Word complains of not being able
to create or save a settings file.

What gives?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine)
Subject: Re: BBEdit question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.143237.8735@cs.yale.edu> keegan-edward@cs.yale.edu (Edward Keegan) writes:
>I used the patcher on BBedit 2.1.3 and see no results, still no
>as-you-type word wrapping nor is the little icon mentioned in
>the patcher displayed although it says it patched the file successfully.
>Does the patcher need to be udated for 2.1.3?
>

I used the patcher on 2.1.3 and it worked fine -- got the little icon
and everything. When you ran the patcher, did you get a configuration
screen asking which features you wanted to install?


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: VCP Computer Products
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:02:22 GMT

The following is my personal experience with VCP Computer Products, which is
located in Anaheim, CA. They have a full-page ad in MacWeek and other
Mac-specific
magazines almost every week. They sell hard drives, optical drives, Syquest,
etc. under their own label and other products.

Three months ago I saw that they also sell external hard drive and Syquest
kits.
I subsequently ordered a full-height drive case accidentally (my mistake) plus
a few extra items from a salesman called Lawrence. When it arrived, I realized
I should have ordered a half-height hard drive kit. I called for a return
authorization
and exchange. The first response was Lawrence is the one to issue a RMA#. I
asked if they could simply issue a RMA# since I had the invoice in front of
me with the reference #, order# and everything. I was politely asked to call
Lawrence the next day.

The next day I called and Lawrence was not in. But the other fellow was
willing
to issue a RMA#. I packed up the case, and sent it back with a letter by
priority
mail with recepit for delivery. The returned receipt showed it was delivered
exactly two days later.

Two weeks past and nothing. I figured sending another hard drive kit out, even
by UPS ground (VCP's preferred method of shipping), should not take that long.

I followed up with several FAXes, politely explaining the reason why I
returned
the case by priority mail was to ensure they received it fast to exchange for
a half-height case. I really needed the case asap.

After the third FAX, the case arrived by Federal Express next day air.

Even with the 15% restocking fee, there should be at least $30-35 due me. Even
if they charge me for Fed. Express when they should have sent UPS ground (as
requested in all my correspondence), there should still be some money due me.
Three months past and no credit was ever issued.

I am tired of sending all these letters/FAXes to VCP. They never acknowledged
them anyway. They are in CA and I am in MI. I can write a letter to the Better
Business Bureau there, but it will take time to write and photocopy all the
letters.

I don't know if VCP has burned other customers, or if they are so disorganized
that they could not find my record to issue a credit. I hope this is an
isolated
incident and the victim is me. 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: gyoungs@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Youngs)
Subject: Re: Excel 4.0 + Sys 7 + VM ==> Paging Hell?!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 16:45:12 GMT


Excel + VM.  Turn off extensions and increase disk cache.
             Optimize disk and check disk integrity.
             Make sure Excel has enough memory.

Realize that you have found the limits of the envelope.
Either go back to Excel 3.0, add memory, turn off VM.

Navigator 3.1.1 for CompuServe causes downloads to take twice
as long with VM turned on. MacCIM is almost unaffected (5-10%)
but Nav will cause significant (40-50%) degredation.

So, though Apple VM has a lot to be desired and Connectix's
version is still not ready (after over one year!) applications
can be at fault. Complain - everyone - to Microsoft. That does
have an effect and they do listen. 

It fills like Word 5.0 runs better than 4.0 did - taking into 
account how many items there are in Commands folder. Take them
out and it still runs in 1,024k fine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Prograph 2.5 number sought
From: Michael.Breen@UC.EDU
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:09:55 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Does anyone out there in NetLand  have the phone number for TGS Systems in
Canada? They are the folks that produce Prograph programming language for the
Mac.

I've ordered my package from them and it seems to be taking an awful long time
to get here and I was wondering if the product was currently vaporware or if
the postal system misplaced it or something. It seems that I lost the card that
I used to order the product so I stuck waiting for the mail to come every day.

If anyone can point me to an internet address or a phone number for these folks
it would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks in advance...

MTB 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander)
Subject: Re: BlitzMail ?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:02:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.203914.13076@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews) writes:
> 
> Sven Grenander writes
> > Does anyone have an e-mail address for the Dartmouth folks who
> > implemented this potentially nice application ? As it was version 
> > 1.5 (no "b" or "d") it looks like it may be ready for experimental 
> > use if one could just set up a log-in name and address file.
> 
> I'll own up to writing the client, and my address is  
> Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (any person at Dartmouth has a similar e-mail  
> address, and that's one thing that makes BlitzMail very nice).
> 
> BlitzMail isn't experimental (it's been in wide use here since 1988) but  
> it requires a lot more than a name and address file as a server.  Our  
> current server setup is 7 NeXTstations with 9Gb of disk space, plus a Sun  
> 4/280 to handle bulletin-board functions.  That handles a community of  
> over 11,000 users, roughly half of whom will sign in on an average day.
> 
> We are interested in exporting the BlitzMail system to other sites, but  
> it's going to be a big job at first.  If you're a Mac-intensive site with  
> an AppleTalk/TCP network, a patient sysadmin, and users eager for friendly  
> e-mail then we'd like to talk to you.
> 
> Jim Matthews
> Dartmouth Software Development
> Home of BlitzMail, Fetch, and lots of other neat stuff.
> 
> 

A rather daunting server set-up, but then you have 3 times as many users
as we have Macs (by the latest un-official [think they double counted somehow
and gave us a total of 8000 whereas 4000 seems more reasonable] count in MacWeek).

It still looks quite interesting and I'll follow up in private e-mail to you.


-Sven

PS  Thanks for Fetch !
From: micross@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ross A. Winston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Logitech Scanman software info requested
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:20:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Does anyone know if Logitech has come out with Scanman software that is
compatible with System 7?  When I purchased the Scanman/Digital Darkroom bundle
last year, it came with an app that would only run under System 6.  They
included a little slip saying that a System 7 version would be out soon.  I
would like to use such an application instead of Digital Darkroom because I
usually scan in straight b/w and don't want to mess around with dithering/etc.
        Has anybody heard from Logitech or seen a system 7 version around? 
Thanks...

Ross Winston

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hyu@acs.ucalgary.ca (Hongwei Yu)
Subject: Re: Excel 4.0 + Sys 7 + VM ==> Paging Hell?!
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 05:23:01 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Excel 4.0 and VM
Followup-To: hyu@acs.ucalgary.ca

I happened to find out the same thing occurred to a Powerbook 145.
My friend recently bought a Powerbook 145 and Excel 4.0.  The
Powerbook has 4 MB physical RAM on it.  He turned on the VM and
increased the total RAM to 6 MB.  To run the add-in from Excel 4.0,
it usually takes about 3-5 min.  Once he turned off the VM,
everything seems to be normal. 


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Dept of Biological Sciences     Phone:   (403) 220-3810
Univ of Calgary                 Fax:     (403) 282-4839
From: zk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Generator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Freeware Screen Saver
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:58:10 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:


>In article <1992Sep9.174239.23656@den.mmc.com> (comp.sys.mac.apps), b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com (Kevin Brislin) writes:
>> I am looking for a freeware screen saver for our Macs. Everything I run
>> across seems to be shareware. Any suggestions, anyone? Please?

>DarkSide does a terrific job for System 7 users.  You should be able
>to find it in all the usual places (various internet archives, America-Online,
>Compuserve, etc).

Darkside 2.5 works on system 6 machines (I'm running it on one so I'm
sure) It is a little more difficult to find than the system 7 version (I
believe that is Darkside 3.1) But you can get it from some sites...

-Gen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Freeware Screen - FINAL
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 07:57:49 GMT

In <1992Sep11.113241.523@den.mmc.com> b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com (Kevin Brislin) writes:

>I wanted to thank all the people that e-mailed and posted to my request
>for a freeware screen saver. Just to summarize, the winner according to 
>all of you was Darkside of the Mac. However, I couldn't use that on our
>net because no one has System 7 yet, so I went with Veil (another 
>recommended piece of software.)

As stated here before, DarkSide 2.5 runs fine under System 6 with
MultiFinder. I expect there is a copy at mac.archive.umich.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: 7.0 compatible tape backup sw for Apple 40? (Summary)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:58:56 GMT

In article <Bun1Lr.51G@news.udel.edu> johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a tape backup software that supports Mac 
>System 7.0.x and the Apple Tape Backup 40SC?  Does anyone know
>if there will be a new driver from Apple?

Both Fastback and Retrospect were recommended, with Retrospect 
preferred by those who mentioned both.  Apple has apparently 
dropped the Tape Backup 40SC from its price list (no surprise
there) and is apparently endorsing Retrospect. 

My understanding is that both products are sometimes bundled
with hardware, so that some users end up with more than one 
legitimate copy.  Anybody in this category want to sell one?
-- 
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-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673)
Subject: Re: At Ease
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: At Ease security
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:12:00 GMT

>In article <18jj9nINNjdb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> yjc@po.cwru.edu (Jerome Chan) writes:
>>
>>  Does anyone know where I can get -At Ease-? I've got a whole floor full
>>of people who wander in and out of my room and I'd like to have some form
>>of security and easy to use interface for all those occasion Mac users.
>>Are there any other alternatives besides At Ease?

The latest MacWarehouse catalog has an ad for it, for $55, so probably all the 
mail order places carry it by now.  

Are you sure this is enough security for you?  Are you trying to protect your 
Mac against well-meaning users who don't know the Mac, in which case this
sounds like the right program, or against knowledgeable people who have no
qualms about messing up someone else's machine? 

Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser%nssdca.span@star.stanford.edu
Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
Greenbelt, MD
From: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: My scrapbook is down, help!
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:15:05 GMT
Reply-To: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

>I tried to open it, it quits before the screen shows up, without any
>reason. I had never such a problem before.  
>
>Does anyone have had similar problem before? It's really queer, the 
>scrape file is there intact, nothing has ever been change. Your help 
>and advice would be greatly appreciated.
>

I had a similar problem, tho not exactly the same--my scrapbook would
launch, and it would appear in my list of apps (I run system 7), but no
scrapbook window would appear.  I suspect the problem occurred because I
had a system crash while my scrapbook was open.

My solution was simple--I replaced my copy of the scrapbook DA.  If you're
in system 7, this is as simple as dragging the scrapbook DA from the system 7
installation disk to the apple menu folder (inside your system folder).  In
system 6, go to the Font/DA mover (launch it), remove the current scrapbook,
then stick in a new copy (also via F/D mvr) from your system 6 installation
disks.  If this doesn't solve the problem... well, without knowing more 
about your set-up, I can't really offer any more advice.

Yes, I replaced the old with the one in the installation disk. I didn't
work neither. As a matter of fact, I also tried to open the scrapbook from
within the installation disk. Nothing worked.

Would this has anything to do with the scrapbook file in the system folder?
The file contains all the stored images or whatever in the scrapbook, right?
I just hate to replace that too, because it holds some PICT I don't want to
get rid of.
From: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: MS Word 3.02 Introduction Dates?
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au

From article <1992Sep8.230029.24204@csus.edu>, by davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern):
> Does anyone remember the timelines of the MS Word 3.0 introduction?
> Someone here wants the 3.02 version date, but if someone has the
> whole spread...it might be interesting.

I dug out some old Word 3 discs and did a Get Info:

The creation date is Thurs 19, November 1987
The version is 3.01
The comments field identifies it as 3.02!!!

They were interesting times
Martin



Martin Levins                               Internet: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Director of Computing                                     Applelink: AUST0479
The Armidale School                                      Phone: +61.67.738219
Australia                                                  Fax: +61.67.738230
From: jmale@uranie.inria.fr (Jean-Michel Male)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: postscript to postscript-pict
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:53:05 GMT
Reply-To: jmale@cosinus.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis

In article <135823@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, macq@miguel.llnl.gov (Don MacQueen) writes:
D.MacQueen|>     The following is a variant of a FAQ, and is probably also
D.MacQueen|>     a NAQ (never answered question!)

D.MacQueen|>     Does anyone know of apps to do either of the following:

		 Yes, I have a possible solution.

D.MacQueen|>     2. Take a file of standard postscript, create a screen
D.MacQueen|>     image, allow some editing of the image (revise text and
D.MacQueen|>     text formatting at least), then save as either standard
D.MacQueen|>     postscript, or preferably postscript-pict.

		 Try Adobe Photoshop on the Macintosh. This software
		 is able to read PostScript files even those it has
		 not generated. Take care of the difference between
		 ending line character on the Mac (cr) and on Unix
		 systems (lf) before attempting to read on a Mac a
		 PostScript file generated on a Sun.

		 Hope that helps.

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(Mort aux vaches !)
From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking ReadLisa
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:45:34 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1CE00001.cr40es@itr.wa.com>, callahan@itr.wa.com (John Callahan) writes:
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I'm trying to locate an application called ReadLisa or any similar
> application that will let me read disks originally written on my
> (antique and incapacitated) Lisa on a Macintosh.
> 
> Any clues?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> John
> 

No doubt this wrong, but have you tried Apple File Exchange?  Urrghh. 
Sorry I mentioned it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: bogus WriteNow upgrade gimmick
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:35:30 GMT

Smart move, Ralph.  I got 3.0 and wish I'd saved my money.  I don't call it an 
upgrade - merely a bug fix.

I really lost my good impressions of T/Maker with this trick.  I'm beginning
to use Vantage a lot lately.  It's faster, does more, loads faster.  It
doesn't support multi-fonts, but I find I don't need that much anyway.

Good decision!

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From: bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: BBEdit question
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:48:37 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's College of Maryland
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6DA2CE3410101D2@williams.smcm.edu>
X-XXDate: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:49:55 GMT

Oh BBEdit experts:  is there some way to get BBEdit to wrap text
automatically, that is, as I type it in?  Right now I get everything on
one looong line, which makes it quite dffclt to read.  Or am I just
supposed to type carriage returns, like on a typewriter?  I'm afraid
I've gotten too used to  Microsoft WORD, and old habits die hard.
___________________________________ William E. Williams,
bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu Divison of Natural Sciences and Mathematics
St. Mary's College of Maryland St. Mary's City, MD 20686
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: brent@greatcircle.com (Brent Chapman)
Subject: FAX software for Supra OTHER than FAXstf?
Originator: brent@napa
Organization: Great Circle Associates; Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:01:06 GMT

Are there any other choices for FAX software for use with the Supra
FAXModem V.32bis OTHER than the "FAXstf" software that comes with the
modem?  I really don't like FAXstf very much.

I have Global Village's FAX software, which I really like, to use with
my PowerPort/V.32 on my PowerBook, but it only works with Global Village
modems.


-Brent
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