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From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: star trek babes
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:45:48 GMT

jwelnak@xraylith.wisc.edu (John Welnak) writes:

>well, i just say "legacy" for the first time last night. it's the one
>where the big e goes to tasha yar's home world to answer a distress
>call. any way, tasha's sister!!! whoa. sorry i forget her name, but
>she _definitely_ gets my vote.

>apologies: sorry if she was already mentioned.
>			sorry if this post is sexist.
>			sorry i don't like to use the SHIFT key.
>			sorry if you have nothing better to do than flame _me_.

I've been reading posts for a long time now, and it really makes me sick
to see people posting, then apologizing for everything they say.  John,
you have no need to apologize.  There are a small number of dickheads out
there who have nothing better to do than to flame people, and I don't 
think that everyone should get into the frame of mind that they should
place an "Oh, I'm so sorry I have an opinion" disclaimer at the end of
their posts.  John, you have every right to say what you want, and how
you want, and if anyone thinks differently, that's their problem.  I
agree, Tasha's sister is definitely one hot piece of flesh (NO apologies).

And if you don't like my long .sig, too bad.

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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: You've got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:34:14 GMT

In article <m=jn!+d@lynx.unm.edu>, haro@carina.unm.edu (KANEDA) writes:
> 
> 
> HIYA
> 
> Man am I gonna get flammed for this!
> 
> Ok folks I admit, I've only been watching STNG for awhile now, and I really
> enjoy it.  I enjoyed it so much, it prompted me to go to the ST convention
> they had in El Paso, TX.  Michelle Nicholes ( I guess that's her), UHURA, 
> was the guest speaker.  I must say I really felt out of place.  Mostly 
> because I wasnt wearing a uniform or dressed up as a monster.  
> Kinda reminded me of that Saturday Night Live episode with William Shatner.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I was looking at the bloopers screening of past episodes when a loud
> voice suddenly boomed out.
> "ATTENTION! Code 2!  There will be a Musical Tribute to Geordie La Forge in
> 5 minutes in viewing room 2!  I thought for a moment, paused rather,  then
> fell down laughing my head off.
> 
> I guess I've hearded it all now.  Hey, you know your in a great country
> when a fictional character who wears a hair berrett on his eyes, and never
> does any fighting, get his own musical tribute...Hey, I'm game.  NOT.
> 
> I went to try and find out what STNG was all about when all I got was a bunch
> of dirty looks, no door prizes, a side ache from all my laughing, and some
> lady named Uhura's autograph who was a HAM radio opperator ar MCI opperator, 
> I don't know.
> 
> I must admit though the Klingon Hot Dogs were good though.
> 
> Rick Kaneda F.


Rick:

I don't know this for certain, since I wasn't there, but the tribute was 
_probably_ for the real Geordi Laforge, a Trek fan who died of a degen-
erative nerve disease.  The character on TNG was named after him as a 
tribute to his courage.  No flames, just info.

Kellie Matthews-Simmons
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: holosex restrictions
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:30:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.133102.4781@alw.nih.gov>, singley@helix.nih.gov (Erick D. Singley) writes:
>>I always got the impression that sex is permitted on the Holodeck.  I can
>>remember Riker saying to Geordi in one episode, "We've all spent some time in
>>the Holodeck," implying that it's a common ... uh ... release.
>  
>>stephen dowling         dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org         minneapolis minnesota
> 
> Yeah, but can you immagine standing out in the hallway explaining what you want
> to see inside? :)
> 
> Erick

You'd have to do it once, then you can say "Load Riker program 69". :-)

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:14:16 EDT
From: Dave Shaffer <DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: List of Upcoming Conventions
Distribution: world

Anyone have any information about a convention to be held in the
Pittsburgh, PA, area this weekend? I heard there was one, but
haven't found any documentation. (No newspaper there 'cuz of a
strike!) Thanks!  - Dave
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Actors' Other Roles [1/1]
Date: 2 Sep 1992 17:10:00 GMT
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <dtgordon.715442702@unix1.tcd.ie>, dtgordon@unix1.tcd.ie (Damian Gordon) writes...
}In <rccarm00.715440319@mik.uky.edu> rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
}>                       Star Trek Actors' Other Roles             Edition 1
}>James Doohan
}>-----------------
}>Television:  Ben Casey; Bewitched; Bonanza; Fantasy Island; 
}>  	     The Fugitive; Gunsmoke; Hazel; Marcus Welby, M.D.; 
}>	     Peyton Place; The Virginian.
}Knight Rider 2000

Uh, don't forget Star Trek -- this is missing on a couple of them (Nichelle
Nichols, for instance). Since it's listed for Nimoy and DeForest, might as
well list it for everyone.

}>Diana Muldaur
}>-----------------
}>Television:  L.A. Law; Star Trek; Star Trek: The Next Generation.
}The Hulk

Also in the second pilot for another Roddenberry creation - Planet Earth.
(Genesis II was the first pilot).

}>Brent Spiner
}>-----------------
}>Television:  Star Trek: The Next Generation. 
}Cheers, Tales from the Darkside.

I don't recall seeing him on Cheers, but he was "Bob" on Night Court.

}>Wil Wheaton
}>-----------------
}>Television:  The Defiant Ones; A Long Way Home (debut); Long Time Gone;
}>	     The Man Who Fell to Earth; My Dad Can't Be Crazy, Can He?;
}>	     The Shooting; Star Trek: The Next Generation; 
}>	     13 Thirteenth Avenue.
}>Pictures:    The Buddy System (debut, 1984); The Curse; 
}>	     Hambone and Hillie; The Last Starfighter; Stand by Me.
}Young Harry Houdni.

Was Wil in The Last Starfighter? What part did he play -- don't remember
seeing him in that, and I just watched it last month. 

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: smp@gtech.com (Sergio M. Pedro)
Subject: Re: Sexism and Plunging Necklines (Was Re: What would you do ... ) 
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:09:57 GMT

In article <Bu0swH.Fsv@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>pierrot@milton.u.washington.edu (The Pierrot) writes:
>>	I personally find it entirely 
>>	plausible that Deanna might dress like that to make 
>>	*herself* feel attractive, not to slavishly gain the 
>>	approval of men;
>
>Yeah, right. That doesn't explain that her position (ship's counselor)
>is not to be attractive or not, but to counsel the people on the ship.
>
>Women's breasts are kept secret and propped up with such unnecessary
>items like Deanna Troi wears in order to keep the breasts sexually
>exciting to men.  In other words, the fetishes of men are controlling
>how women dress in this regard.  I disapprove of it entirely.  I see
>no reason why Deanna Troi can't wear a regular shirt like a lot of
>other people on the show do.  I've seen passers-by (always women)
>wearing mini-skirts and low-cut items and I find them equally against
>the idea that in the future portrayed by the show, these crew members
>can just do what they were meant to do: seek out and explore strange
>new worlds.  In no way is it necessary for those strange new worlds to
>be explored while Deanna Troi sufficates while being compressed in a
>tight shirt.
>
>-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
>-- No NeXTmail please

Ohhhh, please!  If you are going to get on a soap box, then get a clue!  The way these females dress has a lot to do with what a.) there bodies are like and
b.) what the producer wants to expose and nothing to do with what they will 
wear in the future.  However, if you do want to imagine what they will wear in
the future, then I suggest you cruise down virtually any street of a nearby
city or go into one of the thousands of malls across the country and take a look at how most of the women dress.  Even in a conservative business environment, 
women are dressing more and more to show.  Why?  I don't know!  Mind you, I 
wish that they would dress more modestly.  I value women a lot more than as
objects and I wish more of them would start to believe more in themselves as
people who are worth while and not just in a competition to get men.  Maybe
if it starts at the grass roots level it will work into our favorite SF show!
After all, the way to change the future is to change the present first!

Phillip (I'll get my own account someday!!!) Zannini
"Ever notice that Action and Accomplishment both start with the same letter?"                                                                        -PJZ

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From: mjm4@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael J. McNaughty)
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Reply-To: mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:41:29 GMT


In article <1992Aug27.172754.20248@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:

>>I'd use the power of the Q to shrink the size of Troi's butt.
>
>Y'know, it's amazing the kind of abuse Sirtis takes on this group over
>her physical features.  The woman is in no way overweight.  She is a
>woman.  Women have hips, unlike the models we Americans constantly have
>shoved in our faces that are built like little school boys.  These
>models do not represent human physical norms.  They starve themselves
>for this effect in order to wear clothing invented by twisted _men_ who
>have some fantasies about what women should look like.

[some stuff deleted about hooters]
>
>Give the lady a break, already.
>
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Geez, next time remind me to add the required  :)  before a post.

Just so you know, Gary, I actually am one of the few defenders of Ms.
Troi. And so you also know, I like her hooters just the size they are.

big :)



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The University of Chicago			front of me, than to have
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: lewis@odysseus.uchicago.edu (Lewis Muhlenkamp)
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Organization: University of Chicago  LASR
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:57:35 GMT

In article <94681@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>I always wondered how the Federation enforces the Prime Directive. The show
>makes it perfectly clear that there are numerous privately owned warp-capable
>ships besides the Starfleet ones. I can't see how the Federation can prevent
>even its own citizens from meddling with developing civilizations, unless: a)
>it has a military satellite in orbit around every such world or b) it is being
>extremely hypocritical or c) the script writers haven't thought out the details
>when they put in the Prime Directive.
>
>Of course it is "c", but still, it would be very interesting to know if this
>problem has ever been tackled somewhere (certainly not in the TV shows,
>novels, perhaps?)
>

Actually in 'Cost of Living' when Lwaxana finds out that Timycin (sp?) is
going to commit suicide (or whatever you want to call the Resolution thing,
she argues with Picard and tries to get Picard to intervene.  Picard says
he cannot because of the Prime Directive.  She replies that that's Starfleet's
way, not hers.

This in itself doesn't really mean much since Lwaxana usually does as she
pleases.  There is another episode though where it is mentioned that civilians
(non-Starfleet beings) can do as they please.  Only Starfleet personnel must
follow the Prime Directive.  I do not recall which episode.

Hope this helps.

Lewis Muhlenkamp (lewis@odysseus.uchicago.edu)

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Subject: rec.arts.startrek.info Gone??
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 30 Aug 1992 18:45:37 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I was wondering, did rec.arts.startrek.info gone inactive??  It disappeared
from the newsgroup listing
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Shatner & Nimoy to be on Arsenio this week
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:13:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.204701.25632@bnr.ca> woodcock@sdf.lonestar.org writes:
>This is a public service announcement.  According to a commercial I saw
>last night, Shatner and Nimoy will appear on arsenio this week.
>
>P.S. Has anybody seen the Hallmark commercial with Nimoy?  I've heard it is
>quite humorous.
>-- 
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>ESN 444   day 214.684.7380   night 214.530.2495   *I buy used Vectrex stuff!*


This Arsenio show, as are all the Arsenio shows this week, is a repeat.

I have seen the Hallmark commercial, and yes it is quite humorous.

One more thing, even though it is a repeat, perhaps this was the sort
of post better placed in current?
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:39:05 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <67131@hydra.gatech.EDU>, cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.172754.20248@bnlux1.bnl.gov) schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
> )In article <1992Aug26.143139.2786@midway.uchicago.edu) mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> ))
> ))I'd use the power of the Q to shrink the size of Troi's butt.
> )
> )Y'know, it's amazing the kind of abuse Sirtis takes on this group over
> )her physical features.  The woman is in no way overweight.  She is a
> )woman.  Women have hips, unlike the models we Americans constantly have
> )shoved in our faces that are built like little school boys.  These
> 
> Nah....  I've seen some fat models who are nowhere near as large as
> Troi!
> 
> -- 
> "Truth is under all circumstances more valuable than nontruth, and this
> must apply to truth in the realm of history as to other kinds of truth."
>   -- Albert Schweitzer, _Out of My Life and Thought_
> Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech  cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu


Tim:

Please post the following:

Your Height
Your Weight
Your Chest Measurement
Your Waist Measurement
Your Hip Measurement
Your AQ (Arrogance quotient)
Your Penis Length

Then complain about Troi.

Yours in disgust

Kellie Matthews-Simmons
Intenet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Planet Earth
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:21:45 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:

> While lounging around on Sunday afternoon, TBS showed 'Planet
> Earth' - a 1974 movie (failed pilot?) written/produced by Gene
> Roddenberry.
> 
> Spooky stuff:
> 
> The costumes worn by the 'advanced' society have the same
> shoulder pattern as the TNG uniforms. They're also the same TNG
> material, whatever it is.

That is because they were designed by William Ware Theise<sp?>, the same
person that did the TOS costumes and also designed the uniforms for TNG.
His designs are also apparent in the TNG episode "Justice" aka The
Planet of the Joggers.  These looked very similiar to what the amazon women
were wearing in Planet Earth.  He really seems to like that criss-crossed 
halter like top. :)   I don't think Theise is doing costumes for 
the show anymore.  And I don't know when/if he left.  I'm sure someone
else might have some more information on that.

> 
> Their chest pins are communicators.
> 
> The doctor has a 'salt shaker' scanner, and a medikit.
 
Did anyone notice if Mr. Feinberger did props for this one??

> The sets look very TOSish - many semi-transparent walls with
> pulsing lights and bulkheads.
> 
> The person from the 20th century keeps making logs to narrate the
> story. "Log entry 324...."
> 
> They keep going on missions to less advanced technologies, and
> getting their butts kicked. :)
> 
> Anyone else notice any trekisms in the movie?

Other then John Saxon's character being very Kirkish/Rikerish? Oh and
the fact that Diana Muldaur played the head "amazon women".
This story was actually a second pilot to a failed series.  The first
one was called "Genesis II", and starred Alex Cord, not John Saxon.
This is the one that explains why Saxon's/Cord's character is from the 20th
century.  He was a scientist doing experiments in suspended animation
and, I guess, slept too long.  He was discovered by the Pax people,
those that live underground, buried in some hidden cave.  This one also
had Mariette Hartley, another TOS cross-over.  I much prefer the John Saxon
version, but then again, neither of them were really that good.  :) 
Oh, the book I'm getting some of this information from,"Movies on TV"
by Steven H. Scheuer gives "Planet Earth" 3 stars, and "Genesis II" only
2 and a half.  He thought fans of Star Trek would like Genesis II.  I
guess because of the Roddenberry connection.  But he thought Planet Earth
was "good sci-fi". 


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: billh@vab07.larc.nasa.gov (Bill Henderson)
Subject: Star Trek GIFs at vab02
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:41:57 GMT


I've taken a new job with Silicon Graphics Inc (SGI) and am leaving my
sys admin position here at NASA Langley. This means I need a good home for
all the Star Trek GIFs. If anyone has the disk space for all the pictures
(74 Mb), please contact me and let arrange a transfer. They've got to be
gone by Friday Sept 11th.

Bill
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From: Charles Laine <Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU>
Subject: Re: Worst TNG episodes (was Re: Justice)
Organization: Baylor University
     <66884@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1992Aug26.155415.13073@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>
     <1992Aug27.133910.12350@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:21:31 GMT
X-Posted-From: lainec.baylor.edu
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I actually liked "The Royale".  It was different, and I found it to be
quite humorous.

I agree that "Cost of Living" and "Shades of Gray" are total suckage.  I
also thought "New Ground" and "The Bonding" really inhaled.

Charles Laine
Baylor University
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:27:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.143139.2786@midway.uchicago.edu> mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>I'd use the power of the Q to shrink the size of Troi's butt.

Y'know, it's amazing the kind of abuse Sirtis takes on this group over
her physical features.  The woman is in no way overweight.  She is a
woman.  Women have hips, unlike the models we Americans constantly have
shoved in our faces that are built like little school boys.  These
models do not represent human physical norms.  They starve themselves
for this effect in order to wear clothing invented by twisted _men_ who
have some fantasies about what women should look like.

Subject two:  Sirtis' breasts (or as they are referred to here,
"hooters").  She is not, contrary to popular opinion, posessed of overly
large breasts.  They are small to average at best.  However, the costume
designers go out of their way to accentuate them as much as possible.
I'm glad to see that in Roddenberry's Wonderful World of the Happy
Future, male cheauvenism is still tolerated.  If Marina's never
complained about the plunging-neckline uniforms she's been given to
wear, she has every right to.

Give the lady a break, already.


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From: gill@physics.ubc.ca (Arnold Gill)
Subject: Re: Problem with Bonanno's _Probe_?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:29:58 GMT

rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:

>   Well now that copies of _Music_of_the_Spheres_ have been 
>circulating for a while, I have a question.

     So do I.  Where can I get a copy of the manuscript?  Anyone gotten
     ambitious enough to make a text file?

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