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From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Dim Sum in the South Bay
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:25:26 GMT

My assessment:                rate          price
- Milpitas:
  Tin Tin Daily Harbor        ***1/2        reasonable
  Fung Tseng                  ***           reasonable
  Kowloon                     ***           average
  New China Garden            **1/2         cheap
- Fremont:
  Furawa                      ***1/2        a bit higher
- Oakland:
  East Bay                    ****1/2       good
  Jade Garden                 ***1/2        reasonable
- San Fran:
  Canton                      ****          (don't know)
- Palo Alto
  Ming Villa                  ****1/2       high class
- San Jose
  Tai Pai                     ***1/2        average
- Sunnyvale
  Heung Shing                 **1/2         average

East Bay is really my favorite although it is unfortunately
pretty far away. Furawa, when it opened about less than
two years ago, was pretty good. However, it deteriorated
pretty fast about half year later. A lot of Chinese resturants
have that problem, so Ming Villa is a rare case that one can
maintain a pretty stable level of high standard. I guess
that is why the price is higher.

Steven
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From: lance@unix386.Convergent.COM (Lance Norskog)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Mark of a good Chinese restaurant
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:21:00 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Unisys/Convergent, San Jose, CA

alan@StarConn.com (Alan Deikman) writes:

>My favorite test is how good the hot-and-sour soup is.  I have never
>been to a Chinese restaurant that had good h-a-s soup that did not
>have other good things on the menu.  Conversely, most restaruants
>that can't make h-a-s never seem to be worth anything.  I'm not sure
>why this is, but I think it has to do with the fact that most h-a-s
>soup is made (so I'm told) with leftover ingredients from other dishes.

I've had three different kinds of hot-n-sour soup at a hundred different
Chinese restaurants.  One of them tastes like dog food.  It's pretty
obvious that the stuff is made in vats comes in 10-gallon cans just 
like the soy sauce.

I've decided I like Jing Jing in Palo Alto; their idea of spicy food
doesn't end with red peppers...

lance
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Stinking Rose?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:23:36 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <1992Apr10.012422.18759@odin.corp.sgi.com> chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew) writes:
>In article <a5Tl02xo0f1301@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, jdg40@pecan.spa.amdahl.com (Jeff Gee) writes:
>|> In article <2081@cypress.UUCP> wl@cypress.com (Wilbur Luo/COMM) writes:
>|> >Has anybody tried the food at the Stinking Rose in SF?
>|> >How is it?
>|> >
>|> >-W
>|> 
>|> Pretty bad food at not-inexpensive prices.  Didn't get good reviews
>|> in any of the major publications either.  Best to skip this one.
>|> 
>|> Jeff
>
>I'd agree.  Not very good with the garlic.  They tend to over cook the
>food so the flavor leaves.  As Jeff said, not inexpensive.  The only
>reason I go there is, they have alot of the stuff from the garlic festival.
>Mama Rapp's garlic mustard can't be beat!
>--

If you like the food from the Garlic Festival - why not just buy the 
recipe book they publish?

Rather than put up with a "not inexpensive" restaurant with mediocre
food? Why subject yourself to that????

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: mckenzie@geemunu.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: New England Clam Chowder
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:09:26 GMT


In article <1992Apr9.025513.26907@oct17.dfe.dec.com>, delise@mikado.dfe.dec.com (Chris DeLise) writes:
> Other than at the Shore Bird Cafe in HMB, I haven't been able to
> find an authentic tasting New England style Clam Chowder (the white
> stuff) in the area - particularly in the south bay. Do any of you
> NE expatriates have any recommendations as to where to find it?
> 
> Ahh, some days I really miss the "Chowda" at Durgin Park...

Try 'The Fish Market' in Palo Alto (on El Camino just south of Page Mill).
Their white chowder is thick and tasty (and remarkably inexpensive, 
particularly to take out). I can't really evaluate its authenticity, though -
I spent four years in Boston, but I didn't eat a lot of chowder while I 
was there. :-)

David McKenzie
mckenzie@geemunu.stanford.edu
From: roger@genie.UUCP (Roger H. Scott)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Burmese in East Bay
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:11:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: genie.398
Reply-To: roger@genie.UUCP (Roger H. Scott)
Organization: proCASE Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <703166623.1@wyrm.rbbs-net.ORG> Barry.Kapke@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Barry Kapke) writes:
>Just wanted to share with you my latest discovery. There's a new Burmese
>restaurant in Oakland called NAN YANG.

It isn't new - it just moved (or cloned, I'm not sure which).  They *are*
fantastic, however.  They also have cool T-shirts, which they sell.
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From: ramin@negin.Berkeley.EDU (Ramin Modiri)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Juice Bars?
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:50:33 GMT
Reply-To: modiri_ramin@tandem.com (Ramin Modiri)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Tandem Computers

Hi,
    
    Does anyone know of a juice bar in Santa Clara/San Jose/ Mountain
View/Sunnyvale/... vicinity?

A Juice Bar is a place with a club like atmosphere and no smoking which
serves juices instead of alcohol.

Thanks,
Ramin.
From: chris@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Bostak)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for Korean Restaurants.
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:58:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpspdla.11780034
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

There's one called Korean Garden (I believe) at the corner of Bernardo
and El Camino in Sunnyvale.  I've only been there once, but thought it
was great and will be going back soon.  I can't tell you whether it was
authentic or not, but it sure tasted good!  Prices were in the 8-10 or
so dollar range and you get all the neat side dishes too.

Chris

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Chris Bostak                               |  chris@spd.hp.com
HP Stanford Park Division                  |  (415) 857-2075
1501 Page Mill Road, Palo Alto, CA 94304   |
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From: michele@sail.tymnet.com (Michele Fabrega)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: need help finding soft serve ice cream
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:56:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: British Telecom North America

In article <23465@goofy.Apple.COM>, smyers.s@applelink.apple.com (Scott Smyers) writes:
|> Does anyone know where I can buy soft-serve ice cream?  It's becoming next to

I've never been to it, but there is a place on the S W corner of Fremont Ave and
Sunnyvale-Saratoga Ave in Sunnyvale called Dairy <something>.  Perhaps they have it.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: zalman@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: Interesting Markets in the East Bay or SF
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:09:28 GMT

In article <12399@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John  
Fereira) writes:
> RE: Interesting Markets
> 
> Yaohan:  Saratoga Ave. just south of 280 (San Jose).  *Complete*  
oriental
> foods grocery store
Unless its changed a lot since I was last there a couple of months  
ago, Yaohan is an extremely complete *Japanese* food store. They had  
very little or nothing in the way of other Oriental foodstuffs. Don't  
go looking for Galangal, Birdsnests, or Kimchee at Yaohan. However,  
they have many choices for things like seaweed sheets, miso, and  
pre-sliced beef.

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3824
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA  
94039-7900


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From: jql@cypress.com (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Empress of India
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:19:59 GMT
Reply-To: jql@cypress.com.UUCP (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA

In article <408@jumbo.Apple.COM> wilkes@apple.com (John Wilkes) writes:
>she does not like it when someone comes to her lunch buffet and loads up
>his/her plate three or four times.  (Personally, I don't know where such
>people put all that food!)

First of all let me say that I've never been to Empress of India.  But I have a
problem with your last comment.  A buffet is by definition all-you-can-eat.  If
someone can eat 3 or 4 plates of food, it is their right to do so and the proprietor
has no right to get angry.

I don't know how big this buffet is, but sometimes it takes more than one trip just
to sample everything.  It wouldn't make me very happy to see people wasting my food,
dishing it out for themselves and not eating it, or trying to doggie bag it somehow,
but if you run a restaurant and offer a buffet you cannot be judgmental about the 
behavior of people that come in and pay for what you've offered them.

Maybe the proprietor should consider discontinuing the buffet and offering lunch specials
or sampler plates instead.

With all the excellent restaurants in the bay area, nobody who owns a restaurant can afford
a poor attitude, or poor service. period.



-- 
Julie Lewis                                    jql@cypress.com
"On Monday, the Senate Ethics Committee said that Congress treated the
House bank like it was "Monopoly" money.  I can't wait to see them when
they try to use that "Get Out of Jail Free" card!"  -Jay Leno
From: shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Great Meals for Large Groups
Summary: large groups or small
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:05:35 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


This last weekend, I had an excellent experience with taking a large
group to dinner, and wanted to share the information with everyone.

I had 38 people in the group last Friday.  We went to Thai City,
on El Camino Real, in Palo Alto.  On Wednesday, I called Thai City,
and arranged for a "banquet-style" menu to be served.  For $12,
including tax, I had my choice of any 5 entrees and 2 appetizers
on the menu.  Meng, the manager, volunteered to create a special
table for the vegetarians in the group, and to cook a special meal
for them.

I thought the food was fabulous.  The service was great.  I got a 
lot of compliments from the other diners.  Even though we were being
served banquet style, the food was well-prepared, with a depth of
flavor that I don't normally expect at a banquet.  People were
(goodnaturedly) fighting over the leftover bits of Nur Tod and
Panang Beef!

They surprised us with a Thai dessert.  I didn't expect that, since
Meng hadn't mentioned it, and I hadn't asked for it, but I thought
it was very nice of them to do it.  While the dessert wasn't one of
my favorites (I'm not a big fan of coconut) most people liked it a
lot, and mine disappeared thanks to one of my tablemates, who seemed
to like it a lot.  It was a sort of sweet soup with lychee in it.

If you haven't been to Thai City before, or if you are trying to
find a good place to take a large group, I highly recommend it.
I have enjoyed every meal I have had there, and thought they did
an excellent job of handling our crowd.      

Thai City Restaurant
3691 El Camino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94306
(415) 493-0643
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally)
Subject: Golden Chopsticks
Keywords: good food
Organization: DEC Palo Alto
Distribution: ba
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:06:12 GMT

I went to Golden Chopsticks (on Winchester between Hamilton and
Campbell, in Campbell) last night and was once again mightily pleased
by the food and service.

We ordered "Vietnamese Pot Stickers" and "Tofu Salad" as appetizers.
The post stickers, which we'vve had several times before, are not at
all like Chinese pot stickers; they are completely different.  They've
got a crunchy, somewhat gnarly crust and a really delightful filling.
They come five to an order, and always trigger some difficult
negotiations when two are dining.  The salad is not much to look at:
shredded cabbage and carrots, cut-up fried tofu, and chopped peanuts.
It is bathed in a light tart dressing that makes it a nice complement
to heavier fried dishes.  It also mixes well with fish sauce and chili
paste.  Though I can't say it is a star, it was completely consumed.

Our main courses were chicken with mustard green and green-lipped
mussels in spicy sauce.  The chicken is a lovely presentation: chunks
of white meat intertwined with mustard greens, molded into a cylinder
and covered with a mild brown sauce.  Quite nice.  The mussels were
really distinctive, served on half-shell with a minty curry sauce,
nicely hot.

One of the things I really like about Golden Chopsticks is the extreme
friendliness of the staff.  We are always given complete explanations
of the dishes we are brought, as well as willing suggestions when
selecting dishes.  Everyone seems genuinely interested in whether we
are enjoying our food.  Last night was no exception.

Check this place out!  It's reasonably priced, there's plenty of parking,
the neighborhood isn't scary, the ambience is fine, and the food is
top-notch.
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From: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Regional Pizza Differences:  Fact or Fiction
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:45:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: queernet.1992Apr7.064540.7926
Reply-To: rogerk@QueerNet.ORG (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Organization: QueerNet

In article <MELLON.92Apr6093907@hansen.ncd.com>, mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
writes:
|> Your
|> description of the pizza at Pizza-My-Heart isn't exactly inspiring -
|> ``oily enough to blotch up the way [sic] paper''??   Why would you
|> want to eat such a thing?

Because many of us think the oily taste is good and part of what defines
pizza, of course.
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II)
Subject: Thanks for cardamom info!
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 17:51:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

	Once again, the helpful attitude of the net community shows through.
Thanks to all who sent me information concerning the whereabouts of 
cardamom.  If anyone is interested, I will summarize my replies.

							- John Ladasky

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Interesting Markets in the East Bay or SF
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:13:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

RE: Interesting Markets

Yaohan:  Saratoga Ave. just south of 280 (San Jose).  *Complete* oriental
foods grocery store.  The store used to be a Safeway so it is quite large.
There are more kinds of food in this store that I have never heard of than
any place else I've ever been.  They also have a large book department and
a deli.
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| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jayb@gauss.Stanford.EDU (Jay Bourland (382N) 3-2081)
Subject: Re: Cardamom - where?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:51:52 GMT

You should be able to find cardamom at Cost Plus. The one I know of is
on El Camino on the Palo Alto/Mountain View border, but there may be
another close to you. Also, Peet's coffee has many spices, you might
try there as well.

--
Jay Bourland
jayb@math.stanford.edu
From: lonhyn@gulag.nas.nasa.gov (Lonhyn T. Jasinskyj)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Stinking Rose?
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:24:07 GMT
Reply-To: lonhyn@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center


In article <2081@cypress.UUCP> wl@cypress.com (Wilbur Luo/COMM) writes:

>Has anybody tried the food at the Stinking Rose in SF?
>How is it?

I've been there only once.  The food was mediocre, the prices high,
and their idea of a lot of garlic: laughable.

Avoid it.

lonnie

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From: murphy@mips.com (Mike Murphy)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: New England Clam Chowder
Date: 9 Apr 1992 18:11:39 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: ada.mips.com
Keywords: Chowder, FishStuff, Clams

In article <1992Apr9.025513.26907@oct17.dfe.dec.com> delise@mikado.dfe.dec.com (Chris DeLise) writes:
>--
>
>Oops! Let me try that again... (Sorry, hacking xrn again...)
>
>Other than at the Shore Bird Cafe in HMB, I haven't been able to
>find an authentic tasting New England style Clam Chowder (the white
>stuff) in the area - particularly in the south bay. Do any of you
>NE expatriates have any recommendations as to where to find it?
>
>Ahh, some days I really miss the "Chowda" at Durgin Park...

This isn't quite the same quality, but I actually like the Clam Chowder
at Fresh Choice and Sweet Tomatoes; it at least is better than what
you find in many of the fancier restaurants in the Bay Area.
--mike
From: brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Empress of India
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:48:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <2085@cypress.UUCP>, jql@cypress.com (Julie Lewis--Applications) writes:
# First of all let me say that I've never been to Empress of India.  But I have a
# problem with your last comment.  A buffet is by definition all-you-can-eat.  If
# someone can eat 3 or 4 plates of food, it is their right to do so and the proprietor
# has no right to get angry. ...

Webster's 9th calls buffet "a meal set out on a buffet or table for ready
access and informal service".  There may be all-you-can-eat restaurants, and
they may usually be buffet style, but that does not make every buffet all-
you-can-eat.  Try all-you-can-eat at, say, the buffet breakfast room of many
German hotels, observe the reaction of the proprietor, and report back
if you can (of course, if you get lucky, this may depend upon exactly how much
head cheese you can hold down at 7:30 AM).  Tee hee.

Brad Yearwood   brad@optilink.com      {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
Petaluma, CA
From: rbw00@ccc.amdahl.com (  324  Richard Wilmot)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Nyala in SF; Good, good Ethiopian fare
Summary: Good food, nice spice, smiling people, good time.
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:22:34 GMT
Reply-To: rbw00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  324  Richard Wilmot)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Wife, 12 year old son (only mildly adventuresome), and I tried
Nyala at 39 Grove, SF (less than a block from Market near Civic Center).
Wonderful food. Thanks to Leon Traister for the tip. I do agree with
him that this might actually be better than Red Sea in SJ.

We went Saturday night early (6:30). After that you might want reservations
(415) 861-0788. Friendly people serving. Wife is an omnivore but after
seeing and sampling some of my vegetarian buffet ($8 ?) she thinks she
will have that next time. Very nice use of spices. Especially the 
sauteed mushrooms.

Not the fanciest section of town but nice decor inside. Would certainly
consider a date-worthy place if the date likes good food.

-- 
  Dick Wilmot  | I declaim that Amdahl might disclaim any of my claims.
                 (408) 746-6108
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Empress of India
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:57:20 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


I agree that a buffet is *not* by definition all-you-can-eat, but by American
convention is definitely so.  I myself might be caught going
back for some particularly favorite dish a third time (especially if the
food is as good as people say).  If the proprietress wishes to put
out a sign saying "please limit yourself to two trips to the buffet" or
something to that effect, fine.  Absent such notice, I find no fault with
a third (or fourth!) trip to the buffet.

Regards, Lee