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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Subject: Re: Lead Role Salaries
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Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:46:05 GMT

In article <j1=p8=f@lynx.unm.edu> bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician) writes:
>
>As for "ruining one's voice" by doing this, I'd have to say that it
>depends upon the person.  When I was working at the amusement park,
>there were 17 shows a week of which any specific performer would work
>at least 11.  If a performer is going to "ruin" his voice by using it
>every day, then there is probably something wrong with that
>performer's technique.  Yes, I realise there is a strain involved, but
>as I said, nobody performs in all shows.  You do get a day off.

It also depends on the role you are playing. I know for example that
ALW refused to allow Sarah Brightman perform more than 6 shows a
week-- and noone who plays the role of Christine in a professional
production is allowed to perform more than that number set by ALW (this
was also the case with Evita, as I just found the correct page in my
book on Phantom of the Opera) I also know that anyone playing Christine
cannot perform the role twice in one day. (ie. Sunday matinee and
Sunday night.)

Just as a tidbit-- I received a video from a friend (thanks Mr.
Mistofelees... :)  ) that had a show that was filmed several years
ago (Aspects of Love was still in the working stages) and they mentioned
that Andrew Lloyd Webber makes 100 thousand dollars a week in
royalties alone. What does this transfer to a year-- like 52 * 100,000,
or are there some weeks that don't count? Also, if this show was, say,
three years ago, how much does that mean today? (They also said that since
Phantom of the Opera was first performed on October 9, 1986, it had
been sold out for every performance. Geez!)

Meow...
-- 
			 ||     "I'm a woman, and can't be taken for granted.
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From: cool@DPW.COM (Linda Cool)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re:  E.Y. (YIP) HARBURG
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:20:09 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre

Thomas Murray writes:

>>>Apparently [Harburg's] material tended toward social
>>>consciousness, which can be seen in his 1932 song with Arlen,
>>>"Brother, Can You Spare A Dime."

Yes, his material certainly did  l
				  e
				   a
				    n  in that direction. %*) ("Finian's
Rainbow", "Hooray for What", "Flahooley", etc.)  Bert Lahr said of him,
"Yip, you're just too foi-vuhnt [fervant]."  And re "Brother, Can You Spare
A Dime?" -- Jay Gorney was the composer (rather than Arlen).  Edelaine
Harburg, who was married to both Gorney and Harburg (albeit not
simultaneously), always avowed:  "I could never marry any man who didn't
write "Brother, Can You Spare A Dime".


>>>He eventually combined this with his
>>>sly sense of humor, which propelled him to great success in Hollywood
>>>and on Broadway at the time.

Until he was blacklisted.  Fortunately, Harburg had a continuing income
from song royalties.  Others weren't so fortunate.  Yip helped
quite a few of them.


>>>On a side note: There is an early Irving Berlin show called YIP YIP
>>>YAP HANK, or something like that.  "Yip" doesn't have any connection
>>>to E.Y. "Yip" Harburg, does it?

Yip (Yipper & Yipsel) were nicknames.  (During the 8 years I knew
him, I never heard anyone *ever* call him .... Edgar.)
"Yip" is short for "yipsel" -- the Yiddish word for squirrel.


Miscellaneous note:  Harburg also wrote "Lydia, the Tattooed Lady" for
Groucho Marx.  (The Film Censorship Board (what was its name?) wasn't going
to allow the song in the picture, deeming it too immoral -- which is why
Yip made an honest woman of Lydia in the final lyric -- wedding her to
Andrew Jackson.

Cheers,
Linda Cool
From: edward.march@bville.gts.org (Edward March)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: LEAD ROLE SALARIES
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: edward.march@bville.gts.org (Edward March)
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114 2000+ conferences

Benash writes:

-> For example, in a super hit like Phantom, my understanding is that
-> the male and female lead earn about 10k per week each.

Depending on which papers you read here in Toronto, the Phantom in
Toronto (Colm Wilkinson) earns about 4 to 7 times that per week.  You
have to realize too, that the NYC prod. is much older than the 3 yr old
T.O. production and that they are well past having the 'big names' play
the roles.

Wilkinson's a huge draw (hell, the papers have been heralding his return
from vacation) and considering that (according to Variety) Box Office
alone in Toronto is 900K to 1+ Million a week, giving 40-70 grand of
that to their star isn't going to hurt them.
                                                                         
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From: tapestry@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Petree)
Subject: Re: Spelling correctly
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 28 Sep 92 02:08:04 GMT

Randy Sopicki writes:
laviathen writes:

>>I don't know who did the spelling or typing for the name of this
>>newsgroup.  Theater is spelled T H E A T E R.  Someone spelled it
>>T H E A T R E.  I was just wanting to let someone know that it is
>>hard to find if it is not spelled correctly.

>I hate to be a wet blanket but according to Webster's either spelling is
>correct
>                   theater or theatre.
> 
>There, you've increased your vocabulary.

The THEATER is the place where THEATRE is performed.
--
From: schraderlori@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: directing
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:29:20 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Help!  Does anyone know of a feminist one-act play that would be suitable 
to stage at a small school.  I am an undergraduate in a directing class.  
The class needs to stage a play for our final project.  The school has a 
limited number of actors.  We can not use a set, only props.  The play 
should run approx. 30 minutes.  Thanks.
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From: bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician)
Subject: Re: Place of Sondheim's upbringin (Re: More Sondheim lyrics fun
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:23:02 GMT
Organization: Society for the Preservation of E. coli

In article <Bv5Jw6.3M0@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>In article <0=9n0hn@lynx.unm.edu> bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician) writes:
>>Call it a difference in personal geography, but I consider "New
>>England" to go from Maine to about Pennsylvania and New York.

>You're free of course to consider it anything you want, but you are at
>odds with everyone else's usage on this.  The standard meaning of "New
>England" is the 6 states east of New York state (and separated by it
>from the rest of the US).  But I kind of like the imperial attiude which
>you share with Carroll's Humpty Dumpty: "When I use a word, it means
>what I say it means, no more or less."  :-)

Well, yes, I know that the rest of the world considers "New England"
to be everything north of New York, but somewhere, somehow, when I was
studying American History, "New England" came to mean everything north
of New Jersey...don't ask me why...it just did.

And as for Carroll, I must admit that I come to that attitude via a
slightly circuitous route:  my Systems Engineering professor, A.
Bright.  He wrote a play:  BC (Before Carnot):  A Tragicomical History
of Thermodynamics.  It's heavily based upon _Through the Looking
Glass._  I played Laplace (Tweedledee) and Carnot (Humpty Dumpty).  We
end up with lines like:

When I use the words Second Law, they mean just what I choose them to
mean - neither more nor less.

And, or course, when I make a phrase (New England) do a lot of work
like that I always pay it extra.

>>And, if I recall correctly, isn't he presently living next door to
>>Kathryn Hepburn somewhere in Massachussetts?

>He does indeed live next door (or nearly) to KATHARINE Hepburn.  But it
>their townhouses in Manhattan that are adjacent.  They both, of course,
>being proper well-off New Yorkers, have country places as well, which
>are probably widely separated.

Ah, well, the rumour I had heard was that Ms. Hepburn had complained
once of the very loud sexual antics that occurred in Mr. Sondheim's
residence...and that such residence was of the country manor type
somewhere out of the city.

And, as usual, I take responsibility for any and all typos in my posts
(assuming that I was the one typing, of course).

-- 
Brian Evans                |     "Bad mood, bad mood...Sure I'm in a bad mood!
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From: bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician)
Subject: Re: Lead Role Salaries
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:53:48 GMT
Organization: Society for the Preservation of E. coli
Distribution: usa

In article <BvBKBJ.D6u@kato.BELL-ATL.COM> b1hg0jv@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Benash) writes:
>If 10k is the correct weekly figure ( or given any weekly figure for that
>matter), would this actually equate to 520k annual salary? My understanding
>would be that one couldn't work every week of the year without damaging
>one's voice, not to mention being able to muster an exemplary performance
>every day, every week.

>So, my next question would be what is the typical work habit/schedule
>of say a lead role in a continuously running hit on Broadway?

That all depends upon the contract that the person signed.

That is, most professional shows run on the "8 shows a week" attitude
of once a night and a Sunday matinee.

Nobody works every show.

It's also rather unusual for a lead to stay with a show for the entire
year these days (or so it seems...I am immediately reminded of the
_Forbidden Broadway_ song, "Don't Cry for Me, Barbra Streisand":  "It
had to happen/The cast had to change/For how long can a girl do a
show/A year and a half and enough is enough/It wasn't easy/Even
without matinees it got really rough/I'd go to the theatre just
fine/But then I'd be worn out by nine.")

As for "ruining one's voice" by doing this, I'd have to say that it
depends upon the person.  When I was working at the amusement park,
there were 17 shows a week of which any specific performer would work
at least 11.  If a performer is going to "ruin" his voice by using it
every day, then there is probably something wrong with that
performer's technique.  Yes, I realise there is a strain involved, but
as I said, nobody performs in all shows.  You do get a day off.

Most body builders train 6 out of 7 days.  Most of the professional
singers I know work 6 out of 7 days.  But they've trained themselves
to be able to do that.  If you're just starting out, you'll have to go
slow.

-- 
Brian Evans                |     "Bad mood, bad mood...Sure I'm in a bad mood!
bevans@carina.unm.edu      |      I haven't had sex...*EVER!*" -- Virgin Mary
From: gs7413@noah.sbc.com (Bert Soto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Ms. Saigon
Keywords: Hints
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:53:10 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell - Arkansas

I have lucked out and have been invited to go into New York City and see
Ms. Saigon while I'm in New Jersey next week.  I can't wait!  I don't 
want to bug you aficionados but can anyone give me a quick run down on 
the vital statistics for the show?  

	Where is the show being performed (what theatre)?

		- How long has it been running?
		- How many and which Tony's did it win?

	What is the basic story line?
	What are the performances to look for?

I'm not incredibly learned on theatre but do enjoy it.  I remember 
Ms. Saigon being up for practically every Tony.  I love to watch the 
Tony's because of the wonderful performances that can be seen compared 
to the Emmy's and/or Oscar's pitiful displays.
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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: Spelling correctl
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 20:20:26 PDT

In <1992Sep27.070644.1124@rose.com>
greg.grainger@rose.com (greg grainger) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 09-27-92 03:01
>As a follow-up to an existing thread:
>
>E(><I don't know who did the spelling or typing for the name of this
>E(><newsgroup.  Theater is spelled T H E A T E R.  Someone spelled it
>E(><T H E A T R E.  I was just wanting to let someone know that it is
>E(><hard to find if it is not spelled correctly.
>
>E(>This was reviewed when the newsgroup was in the discussion phase.
>E(>Majority feeling was that theatre refered to the art, and theater to
>E(>the building, and thus the name was decided as it now exists.
>
>EXCUSE ME!!!
>
>For those of you without dictionaries or any knowlege of the rest of the
>world:
>
>'theater' is the *American* spelling, and is correct for either the art or
>the building in *that* country;
>
>'theatre' is the *Canadian* and/or *British* spelling, and is correct for
>either usage in *those* countries (and others).
>
>HAARRUMMPH!!!
>

Last time. Either spelling is correct. Websters (which is a dictionary) makes
no distinction as to American or British usage. It just gives either spelling
as correct. Now if you wanted to make that statement as far as the word
color/colour I'd buy into that.
From: thtrsoc@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Theatre Student Queries
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:09:30 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

   Hi, anybody out there?

I'm a theatre student (at Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, 
Canada),who has just got on this net thing, and wonders what it can 
do for me.

Most discussions here seem more Broadway orientated, is anyone interested 
in smaller theatre productions? How about anyone in my area of the world?
Anyone know a good 1 act play that would/could challenge motivated
technical students?


Lawrence Willett, President, Dal Theatre Student Society
THTRSOC@ac.dal.ca
From: quark@csa.bu.edu (Paul Fu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Five Guys Named Moe
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:29:46 GMT
Organization: Boston University, School of Medicine/Dept. Computer Science
In-reply-to: eliz@WORLD.STD.COM's message of 24 Sep 92 15:35:27 GMT

In article <199209241535.AA08698@world.std.com> eliz@WORLD.STD.COM (Elizabeth Lear Newman) writes:

   Well, I wasn't all that hot to see it, but we went - and I enjoyed it!
   It's not really a musical - more a revue along the lines of FOREVER PLAID
   and BLACK AND BLUE, with a small plot to tie the thing together.

					   ...eliz

Listening to the soundtrack, I wasn't all that impressed.  It's one of
those shows at which you _have_ to be at in order to fully appreciate it.
For instance, there's that one silly song with all those syllables which
ends the first act.  They shower the audience with cue cards with the words
on the song and encourage singalongs.

That's entertainment.

paul
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From: eliz@WORLD.STD.COM (Elizabeth Lear Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: NEED LYRICS of "The Phantom of the Opera"
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:59:35 GMT


I've sent the libretto to him.  If anyone else is interested, please
ask.

					...eliz
From: cs177wbd@sdcc5.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Les Miserables 3-CD Deluxe Edition
Keywords: Les Mis, CD, cast recording
Date: 3 Oct 92 07:28:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <2622@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM> matt@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Matthew G. Kile) writes:
>Would anyone like to give a review of the 3-CD set of Les Miserables?  I am

I think it is excellent in that it has all the music.  Those 2-CD versions
are just missing too much stuff.  I think the quality is good and the
performances are great except that I was never thrilled with Gary Morris as
Jean Valjean and for Eponine they got the one who played her from the Japanese
cast.  This I think is the only major flaw.  She has a good voice and all but
she speaks no English and she is singing Eponine.  She can't quite pronounce
all the words quite right and is a bit annoying at times.

Otherwise I would definitely recommend it because listening to the 2-CDs
is just not enough.

It was not recorded all at once.  They went to one country, recorded some
voices then moved on to another country and recorded some more, etc.  It is
quite amazing when you listen to it because it really does sound like they are
in the same room.

BTW, which 2-CD version is best?  I've heard the London cast and thought it was
OK but I've heard the Broadway cast is excellent.  My apologies if this has
been discussed already...

Does anoyone know where the 2nd National Touring Company will be in November?
It just finished up here in San Diego (saw it three times *8^) and is now in
Orange County, then heads up to Berkeley in October then in December it's in
LA.



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From: yho@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Yue-shun E. Ho)
Subject: Re: LEAD ROLE SALARIES (Actually, 3 yr-old Toronto Phamtom)
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:00:05 GMT

In article <1401.827.uupcb@bville.gts.org> edward.march@bville.gts.org (Edward March) writes:
>
>Depending on which papers you read here in Toronto, the Phantom in
>Toronto (Colm Wilkinson) earns about 4 to 7 times that per week.  You
>have to realize too, that the NYC prod. is much older than the 3 yr old
>T.O. production and that they are well past having the 'big names' play
>the roles.

Does anyone here know what the 3rd anniversary CD contains?  There were
  ads in the newspaper mentioning patrons attending selected performances
  of the show will be offered the CD for free.  But it doesn't sound like
  it's going to be on sale in record stores.

yue-shun

-- 
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"The net is expensive.  Don't stay too long."   - Me
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Spelling correctl
Reply-To: jpenovic@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:23:15 GMT

In article <ir73262@pro-amber.cts.com>, rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com
(Randy Sopicki) writes:
> In <1992Sep27.070644.1124@rose.com>
> greg.grainger@rose.com (greg grainger) writes:
> >
> >Date Entered: 09-27-92 03:01
> >As a follow-up to an existing thread:
> >
> >E(><I don't know who did the spelling or typing for the name of this
> >E(><newsgroup.  Theater is spelled T H E A T E R.  Someone spelled it
> >E(><T H E A T R E.  I was just wanting to let someone know that it is
> >E(><hard to find if it is not spelled correctly.
> >
> >E(>This was reviewed when the newsgroup was in the discussion phase.
> >E(>Majority feeling was that theatre refered to the art, and theater to
> >E(>the building, and thus the name was decided as it now exists.
> >
> >EXCUSE ME!!!
> >
> >For those of you without dictionaries or any knowlege of the rest of the
> >world:
> >
> >'theater' is the *American* spelling, and is correct for either the art or
> >the building in *that* country;
> >
> >'theatre' is the *Canadian* and/or *British* spelling, and is correct for
> >either usage in *those* countries (and others).
> >
> >HAARRUMMPH!!!
> >
> 
> Last time. Either spelling is correct. Websters (which is a dictionary) makes
> no distinction as to American or British usage. It just gives either spelling
> as correct. Now if you wanted to make that statement as far as the word
> color/colour I'd buy into that.
> 
  If I remember correctly, when this was first discussed, it
  was decided that "theater" was an American-only spelling and
  "theatre" was more international.  As this newsgroup is not
  limited to the United States, it was felt that "theatre"
  would be more appropriate.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: jimkelle@usc.edu (Jim Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Does anyone know this show (repost)?
Date: 25 Sep 1992 23:08:14 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

     This is a repost because something apparently went 
     wrong with my first post.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

___________________________________________________________________________

A friend of mine recommended me to a play called UNIDENTIFIED HUMAN
REMAINS & THE TRUE NATURE OF LOVE.  I must admit, I've never even
heard of it.  Does anyone know anything about it?

Specifically, who wrote it?  Is it published?  If so by whom and if
not then who is the writer's agent?  What is it about?

Any information will be appreciated.  Please respond via e-mail, and 
if people are interested I will post a summary of my responses.

Thank you.

--Jim!
From: by080@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lynne A. Oconnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Stephen Schwartz
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:19:14 GMT
Reply-To: by080@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lynne A. Oconnell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm a sucker for Stephen Schwartz's musicals, but the only ones I've been
able to find on CD are Pippin, Godspell and The Baker's Wife.  Has anyone
ever seen CD's of Working or The Magic Show?

 
-- 
Lynne O'Connell (oconnell@bcvms.bc.edu)
Department of Chemistry
Boston College