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From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: SAF Group Sent to Zamboanga
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:45:15 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	ZAMBOANGA, Philippines (UPI) -- Some 100 elite policemen arrived
Saturday in the city of Zamboanga to help maintain order following a
grenade attack by suspected Muslim extremists that killed four people
and wounded 17.
	Acting National Police chief Lt. Gen. Raul Imperial ordered the
airlifting of the Special Action Force troops and three investigation
teams from the capital to augment the city's 300-member police force.
	Zamboanga Mayor Vitalino Agan, meanwhile, slammed police and military
officials for failing to ensure peace and warned he would mobilize the
1,200 employees at city hall to ``guard the streets even with
slingshots.''
	Officials canceled a ``walk for a cause'' project scheduled for
Monday because of fear Muslim radicals might attempt to sabotage the
activity, which was expected to draw 10,000 people in Zamboanga, 500
miles south of Manila.
	The assailants exploded the grenade inside a jeep parked near the
city's market Friday, killing four people and wounding 17, police said.
	A senior police official in Zamboanga said authorities were tracking
down three suspects believed to be Muslim extremists.
	The incident, which has aroused Muslim-Christian tension in the
predominantly Roman Catholic city, came as residents were preparing to
celebrate a religious feast on Oct. 12.
	It brought to 14 the number of people in the area killed by suspected
Muslim radicals so far this year, including Italian Catholic priest
Salvatorre Carzedda and a Filipino Protestant pastor. Both missionaries
were accused of trying to convert Muslims to Christianity.
	Hours after Friday's blast, the Jesuit-run Ateneo de Zamboanga
University and the Western Mindanao State University received bomb
threats, forcing school officials to suspend classes.
	The police force has been placed on red alert -- the maximum state of
preparedness -- to guard against further attacks during the Oct. 12
celebration of the feast of the Lady of Pilar, a local Catholic holiday.
	Police chief Lt. Col. Vicente Dumpit said he suspected a Muslim
fundamentalist group was responsible for increasing religious violence
in the city, including the Aug. 23 bombing of a Catholic shrine that
killed six people.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: rpanis@novell.com (Robert Panis)
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:04:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.153137.338@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stanm@comm.mot.com writes:
>
>So, who out there in the Left Coast went to see Lea in concert last weekend?
>How was it?
>

if you mean the West Coast, Yes I was one of them who saw her concert.
Golly let me tell you she was really good. I am not much of a concert goer but
I'd see her again if she will have another concert here in the BAY Area.

Incidentally her guest, Christopher Pecaro was also terrific, he kinda 
remind me of Rossanno Brazzi(sp?) of the "South Pacific" fame.

That's all
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Rally Celebrates US Turnover of Subic
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:33:10 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	OLONGAPO, Philippines (UPI) -- More than 2,000 people staged a festive
parade Wednesday on the eve of Washington's turnover of most parts of
the U.S. Subic Bay Naval Base to the Philippines.
	Mayor Richard Gordon said the march was meant to show that Filipinos
were ready to assume control of the sprawling repair and logistics
center for the Seventh Fleet after U.S. troops withdraw.
	The United States would hand over most of the base to the Philippines
Wednesday in line with a one-year withdrawal schedule. Manila last year
rejected a new 10-year lease for Subic.
	The remaining 1,400 U.S. troops would move to Cubi Point, a small
naval air station within the Subic complex, until Nov. 24 when the
pullout from Washington's last Philippine base shall have been
completed.
	Gordon, riding a horse, led the two-hour march participated in by
local officials, students, teachers, Aeta tribal people and vendors
which snaked through the main streets of Olongapo, 50 miles west of
Manila.
	A brass band and four local drum and bugle corps played as hundreds
of residents cheered the marchers, who held a short program in front of
the base main gate.
	The popular Gordon heads the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority, the
government agency tasked to oversee Subic's conversion into a commercial
port and industrial zone.
	Several investors from the United States, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea
and Singapore, among others, have expressed interest in investing at
Subic.
	``Don't try to cut down the trees in the forest or we will shoot you
with our bows and arrows,'' said a placard held by an Aeta girl.
	Gordon has asked the help of the tribal people, 400 former Filipino
base workers and 1,700 volunteers to guard the base facilities and
thousands of acres of forest reservation from looters and loggers.
	Eighty-nine former base taxis have been refurbished and converted
into patrol cars to be used in guarding the base, Gordon said.
	The nearby Clark Air Base was plundered by local residents with the
help of corrupt military and police officers shortly after it was
abandoned by Washington in 1991 because of damage from a volcanic
eruption.
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Angeles City - Clark Air Base
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:52:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sscvx1.4OCT199209524460
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Oct3.215647.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, jskirk01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu            writes...
>In article <3OCT199213340313@sscvx1.ssc.gov>, godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE 
>GODFREY) writes:
>> It was full of the most obnoxious American
>> louts I have seen outside of Pattaya in Thailand, exploiting the locals,
>> treating the country as if it were their own, giving the Filipinos no
>> credit for having a culture of their own, and generally being American.
>> 
>> Laurence
>> 
> 
>Eh, sumusunod yata sila sa yapak ng dati nilang colonial masters -- ang mga
>British.  :-)
>            			Jim Kirk

I am not one of the British who colonised other countries.  However, the 
British did not colonise the Philippines, the US did.  Furthermore, I
was refering not to colonisation by the US, but to the habit of Americans
eleswhere in the world to refuse to accept that other countries have cultures
of their own, and to assume that they want nothing more than to be carbon
copies of the US.

Laurence
From: rf11@prism.gatech.EDU (FOLEY,ROBERT D)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Dallas meeting
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:20:19 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

There is an active Filipino-American Student Association at Texas
A & M who might be interested in joining the get-together.  Besides
having lots of activities in College Station, they also 
participate in the "Goodphil games" in which the student associations
at Texas A & M, University of Texas, U-T Arlington, and the University
of Houston compete in various sports including touch-football, volleyball,
track, basketball, tennis.  Last year, while I was the faculty 
advisor for the A&M student association, Texas A&M won the 
"Goodphil games" which were held in Austin by a huge margin.  





-- 
FOLEY,ROBERT D
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!rf11
Internet: rf11@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: glabanda@courtney.acns.nwu.edu (Joje Gregorio Labanda)
Subject: Re: PH: NEW HANDS ON THE HELM (Cabinet) (forwaded from SEASIA-L)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:54:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.022351.18421@schbbs.mot.com>  
RMNL69@paccvm.corp.mot.com (Les Aquino) writes:
> ------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>    There is an investigative report written by Manila journalist Stella
> Tirol which linked De Venecia to the Marcos dictatorship.  It seems that
> the House Speaker was a "minor" (i.e. not as big as Cojuangco) Marcos  
crony.
> - bombim cadiz
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

..wooow..Stella's really fast on the trail. Stella Tirol just finished  
her MA in journalism here at Northwestern a year ago (Fulbright Scholar) 
and went home immediately to get married. Naku...si Stella...  
nagii-investigative reporting na pala! One person can sure make a  
difference.


greg labanda
From: coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Crooks (Godfrey's posts)
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:30:08 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <houch.717714156@cavern> houch@cavern.mitre.org writes:
>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>
>>>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>>>>but I have to say in all honesty that I have never encountered
>>>>such high densities of dishonesty and agressive crookedness as when I have
>>>>visited the Philippines.  I say that from the perspective of one who has
[stuff deleted]
>Sounds like a different Philippines than the one I travelled.  I've never 
>seen a country were people were so hospitable.  Strangers have asked me to
[more stuff deleted]
I agree that the Philippines is a very hospitable place.  Mind you I didn't
stay in Ermita but I did visit there and I don't find it any more different
than downtown Toronto.  However it's not the same as visiting your local
mall, the same goes for Ermita vs. ShoeMart EDSA or Makati Landmark.  I must
admit that taxi drivers are mostly bad in the Philippines.  However not all of
them are.  In most cases the taxi drivers are really deceiving their employers
(the taxi companies) as they usually don't run the meter.  I always asked if
they ran the meter before I took them.  It didn't take long to find one that
did.  If you really want to know the Philippines then take a Jeepney or a
tricycle though.  They're great!  It takes you longer, but if you have the time
you see how the Philippine people as they really are:  warm, friendly, and
yes:  gossipy.  One fault the Philippine people do have is:  even if they don't
know the answer, they'll tell you something.  Perhaps others could fill in here,
I found asking directions totally useless.  A map was my best friend in that
regard.
   The worst country I have visited is South Korea.  Everyone I spoke to there
would give me the shaft.   Like the fellow who said his hotel was the closest to
the airport -- we passed four on the way to his, the shuttle would take me to
the airport in the morning -- it didn't, if I gave them his card they would
offer the room for a special 97$US/night -- I didn't give them his card and I
got it for 63$US/night, the taxi driver refused to return the change from the
bill I had given him (10000 won when the fare was only 3000), the restaurant
added questionable amounts to the bill -- before the bill came they could
converse with me in english but after the bill came they forgot how to.  I never
had those problems in the Philippines, Japan, Malaysia, or Singapore.
-- 
Michael H. Cox      | Referendum vote:
                    | Remember:  Preston Manning would not have a job if he
Mitel Corporation   | went to the YES side.
                    |
From: lagman@CS.ColoState.EDU (annette)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: I need a favor....
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:18:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University


	...and who better to ask than a fellow Pinoy.  
	This is for anyone out there working at Sun.  I need
	papers on the SuperSPARC architecture, and I would
	appreciate it if you could let me know if there's some
	sort of company document person whom I could request
	such papers from, or if you know of published references,
	or anything else that might help.  Please reply
	by e-mail, and thanks a lot.

	annette
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: joel@dseg.ti.com (Joel Quejada)
Subject: Re: Clark AFB and Joel
Reply-To: joel@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:02:54 GMT

I talked to my Mom about a week ago and we were talking about the
destruction caused by the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo. She was telling
me about the places that we would vacation at while we were kids, and
that they are "gone" now - buried under ten feet of ash. From her
description of it, it sounds like what happened to Pompeii, except that
they got buried under lava.

---
===============================================================================
|          Joel A. Quejada               |    Texas Instruments, Inc.         |
|          UNIX Systems Analyst          |    6600 Chase Oaks Blvd.           |
|          joel@dseg.ti.com              |    P.O. Box 869305, MS 8498        |
|          (214) 575-6014                |    Plano, Texas 75086              |
===============================================================================
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Angeles City - Clark Air Base
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:32:40 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <Oct02.221524.69480@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mk568652@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Mitchell Kotler) writes:
>Is there anybody out there who spent time at Clark recently.?  Any wild stories you want to tell me?
>Now that the base is closed , where will all the little "honeycoes" go?

Hey, if there are any wild stories, and I am sure there are,
please post them to the net.  I'm sure I am not the only one
who is interested in hearing stories about life around not
only Clark, but around Subic Bay Naval Base.
--Keith

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: asdaroy@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Subject: Hello from Singapore
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:15:05 GMT

Hello from Singapore.
Its nice to know that such newsgroup like this exist.
Mabuhay ang Pinoy!!!!!

Regards,
Cj Daroy
From: andym@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Andy Means)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Filipino Jazz
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:56:32 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

I'm an avid fan of jazz and I heard that there's a lot of Filipino musicians 
who have done jazz on record.  Could someone please tell the names of these 
musicians?  Thanks for the help.


----> RE: There's one jazz musician, not exactly Filipino but Japanese
          name "TADAO HAYASHI".  He plays the harp.  He did one record 
          in Manila under 'BASF' label titled "O.P.M. Special Present-
	  Tadao Hayashi".  He did renditions of OPM hits like "Anak"
	  by Freddie Aguilar and "Kapalaran" made famous by Rico Puno.
	  There are others which I could not remember.  Check this one
	  out.

	  Andy Means (andym@hpspdla.spd.hp.com)
From: U13672@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: e-mail to the philippines
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:46:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92279.144636U13672
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

i've been reading through a number of the articles in netnews and in this
newsgroup, but i've never seen a posting from the Philippines.  does anyone
know if bitnet reaches the Philippines?, and if it does, who has access to
it?  thank you in advance.....

-paul e.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: World Series Smoking Gun?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 12:00:00 GMT

In article <5213@sumax.seattleu.edu>, grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torra writes...
>In article <26SEP199213562446@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov
>(LAURENCE GODFREY) writes: 
>>
>>Sure.  Every taxi driver, every person in the vicinity of Ermita, most
>>lower priced stores, every time I bought cigarettes, every foreign exchange
>>dealer except the banks, most small hotels, every policeman I.  Manila is
>>without doubt the most threatening city I have ever visited, and the most
>>unpleasant for tourists.  ALmost everyone wants your money (and I don't
>>have much of it) and many give the impression that they would do anything
>>to get it.  Unlike the rest of Asia, the Filipinos have lost sight of the
>>idea that in order to get the tourists' money you've got to let them have
>>a good time, they want the money and be damned with the good time.
>>
>>Laurence
> 
>Surely Metro Manila is not Philippines.  I'm not quite sure but I think 
>Philippines is made up of ~7,000 islands, so...  Please reconsider your
>statement.  
> 
>I'm not sure if you give a damn or not but if it was my first time here in
>the US and I was brought to and stayed in the Bronx, would you let me get
>away by saying that all Americans (assuming you are one) are like the
>people in the Bronx (or some other miserable city in the US)? 
> 
>George
> 
I accept that Metro manila is not the whole Philippines, although I did
travel about 50 miles outside MM.  I am not American, I'm English (hence
some of the ENglish spelling).  I agree that there are some awful cities
in the US, but the Bronx to the US is not equivalent to Manila and environs
to the Philippines, is it?  Nor is the seat of Philippines government in
Manila comparable with the local officials found in the Bronx.  You
have gone overboard on the defensive without justification, as I was
not trying to attack all Filipinos as you seem to think

Laurence
From: albert@xi.mathlab.sunysb.edu (Jose Ramon Albert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Honeycoe, CLARK, + explanation
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:56:54 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook, Dept. of Math

mk568652@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Mitchell Kotler) writes

> ...  I can't see it as a "exploitation" of people ... the base
  pours in one million dollars DAILY into the economy at Angeles,
  not to mention Subic.  ... it wasn't our idea to build nightclubs

while it may not have been the intent of Mitchell to offend Filipinos, i 
am afraid i can not take such words w/o reacting.  an alcoholic is
the last person to admit that he is an alcoholic, and sadly, this is true
of any other form of addiction (exploitation included!).  

his admission of an absence of guilt for "having a good time" is what 
disturbs me.  i pray that at some point in time, he will 
realize that we all share the responsibilities of living in this world  
-- a world of grace and sin, of good and evil!  -- and that while his
honesty is a good start for a path to a better life (it is far from
being the end).  


P.S. nobody argues with the facts and realities -- but we do argue
about what to do with them. 

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State University of New York at Stony Brook    patutungohan" 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: candel@crchh572.bnr.ca (Dave Candelario)
Subject: Re: Clark AFB 
Reply-To: candel@crchh572.bnr.ca (Dave Candelario)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 14:12:21 GMT


Hi All!

     Didn't mean to start a massive flame with my comment to Mitchell.  Some of
the G.I.'s I ran into over there as a military dependent really made me ashamed
to be American.  The people of the P.I. were some of the most hard working, kind
and generally happy people I have met.  There will always be bad apples in every
crowd and unfortunately, with some of the things we did as Americans over there,
we may have drawn the bad apples.  Anyway, the years I spent growing up over there
were generally a lot of fun.  

     Question for all of those out in netland:  Has anyone heard from or of a 
general practitioner of medicine named Dr. Tayag?  He was my pediatrician and 
I've often wondered what happened to him?


Regards,

Dave

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: houch@cavern.mitre.org (Jim Houchens)
Subject: Crooks (Godfrey's posts)
Reply-To: houch@cavern.mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:02:36 GMT

godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:

>>godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>>>but I have to say in all honesty that I have never encountered
>>>such high densities of dishonesty and agressive crookedness as when I have
>>>visited the Philippines.  I say that from the perspective of one who has
>>>visited and lived in many countries, and travelled a great deal in Asia.

and later writes:

>Sure.  Every taxi driver, every person in the vicinity of Ermita, most
>lower priced stores, every time I bought cigarettes, every foreign exchange
>dealer except the banks, most small hotels, every policeman I.  Manila is
>without doubt the most threatening city I have ever visited, and the most
>unpleasant for tourists.  ALmost everyone wants your money (and I don't
>have much of it) and many give the impression that they would do anything
>to get it.  Unlike the rest of Asia, the Filipinos have lost sight of the
>idea that in order to get the tourists' money you've got to let them have
>a good time, they want the money and be damned with the good time.

Sounds like a different Philippines than the one I travelled.  I've never 
seen a country were people were so hospitable.  Strangers have asked me to
stay in their homes, invited me for meals, merienda, etc., and refused to
be paid back (except in kind).  Yes, scam artists exist, and they will try
to take advantage of a foreigner, but nowhere else did people help me stay
clear of them the way Filipinos did.  When I would go out, the clerk at
the hotel would warn me about staying away from certain people, and when I
came back, she would ask me how much I paid for things to make sure I didn't
get ripped off.  I'll admit, I never stayed in Ermita, but I had stayed around
Clark, as well as other places in Manila, Negros, Cebu and Bagio.

I have visited places were it seemed everyone was scamming, including certain
sections of big cities in the U.S. (in New York for example).  My guess is
that London has its areas.  Maybe Ermita is like that.  I just don't know.

Only once did I get something stolen.  I had three one-hundred dollar bills
in the side of my suitcase in my room in a hotel.  Some stole ONE of the 
three bills.  If all three were taken, my trip would have been ruined!  It
was almost hard for me to comprehend a parallel in the U.S.  If someone
here was dishonest enough to take one bill, they would take all three.  While
I wished the money was not taken, I feel the money did them a whole lot more
good then it would have done me.  It just meant a few less shirts, records,
etc.

In short, the good far (FAR) outweighed the bad.

-- Jim