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From: michael@psych.toronto.edu (Michael Gemar)
Subject: Re: Rec.arts.sandman
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:49:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.174616.19872@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
><C1ABAJ.MGr@andy.bgsu.edu> (Greg Pallenik):
>>...this newsgroup is "cluttered" with Sandman postings.  I'm finding it harder
>>and harder to select post that interest me.  Would it be possible to get a
>>rec.arts.sandman post?  
>
>Something like this ought to be a Frequently Asked Question.
>The answer is 'no'.
>
>Briefly, there is a reluctance to create a newsgroup with a short life
>expectancy.  (The Sandman run is expected to end in a year or two, though
>there may be followups.)

Although Sandman itself may not justify a new newsgroup, certainly there
is enough interest in "mature" comics (Vertigo and its ilk, along with
limited runs and one-shots like _Maus_ or Gaiman's _Signal to Noise_)
to consider rec.arts.comics.mature.  What do folks think?

- michael
From: mac7@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Grimjack
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:09:39 GMT
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John Ostrander told me za couple of years ago
that something is being worked out.
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: BOO-TAY!?!?! (Was Re: X-Men Intrigue)
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 05:48:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.103039.19807@husc3.harvard.edu> rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.081638.6633@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) writes:
>>Ugh... spare me.
>>
>>Same goes for the rest of your observations. Scott Lobdell would have to
>>be out of his mind (or have it sucked out by Bob Harras) to throw such a
>>long, involved relationship out the window just to Scott can "get it on"
>>with Psylocke.
>>
>>Jay (=
>
>Come on now, do you REALLY think that would stop Mr. Lobdell and Mr. Harras?
>Being out of their minds, I mean.
>
>Lighten up!    :)
>
>Seriously, though.  Sex aside, I think that the whole purpose of this
>Scott-Betsy thing is an attempt to actually _strengthen_ Scott and Jean's
>relationship.  Scott would fall victim to temptation (Psylocke), but then
>realize, "What the hell am I doing?"  In the meantime, Jean realizes that
>she's about to lose something special, and she's willing to fight her
>competition to get him back.  Then Scott and Jean make up, get married,
>and live happily ever after... you know, the usual fairy tale ending!
>(Fished in!  Fished in!)
>
>There.  Hopefully that should smother the flames.  :)

Oh, PLEASE! Scott sleeps with Psylocke, says "Gee, I made a mistake", and
goes back to Jean, who'll welcome him with open arms? If I had any doubts
that Lobdell and Harras were turning the X-books into a big soap opera,
this would clinch it. If I thought there was a chance that some of my
favorite characters could get OUT of the X-books, then maybe I'd drop them
once and for all.

On a different note, has anybody ever wondered _why_ the mutants of X-Men
have never made it outside of the X-books themselves? I mean aside from
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, and the three ex-Defenders, it seems like
"Once an X=Man, always an X-Man" keeps them from making it elsewhere.


I'm not saying Wolverine should quit and join the Avengers, but I think
some two-way interaction would be good. (Besides the occasional
cross-over, of course...)

Also; is there some rule that all of the X-Men have to be mutants? I mean,
with the exception of Longshot, Shatterstar (if you count X-Force as an
X-team) and the Mimic, everybody has been a mutant! Surely there are
non-mutant superbeings would be willing to join Xavier's cause...

Jay (=

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From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: psylocke
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:46:56 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <27JAN199303151780@zeus.tamu.edu> djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:
>
>okay . . . . quick question (sorry if this has been stated already)
>but what ever happen to mojo being able to see throught betsy's
>eyes.

    Mojo was able to see thur Psylocke's "Cyborg" eyes.  The Asain Psylocke
  seems to have normal eyes, the Mysterious (Maybe) Psylocke seems to have
  Metallic eyes, though Psylocke's Cyborg eyes always looked normal before.

    Depending on which on the Real Psylocke is, and if going thur the Siege
   Perilous Shut off the Connection is up to the Writers to remember.

						Jorge
From: mobey@arrods.enet.dec.com (arrods::mobey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: try this
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:50:12 GMT
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    re:Pheonix in Rachel's time line
    
    the 'Katie says "Dark Pheonix"' bit was explained at least in my
    views by the retcon in Excalibur where Katie does a deal with the
    wandering pheonix force I guess it was their "little phrase".
    
    Gary
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cyclops wearing contact lenses
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:43:39 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Bill Roper had the gavel, and he said:

>Now think about it for a moment.  Did you ever see a side-view of
>Scott with his optic blast beam travelling from his eyes to his
>glasses where it stops?  Of course not.  When wearing the ruby quartz
>glasses, he is not emitting the beams.  Thus, we can assume that 
>the glasses, like his eyelids, prevent Scott's eyes from blasting away.

Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that I *have* seen this rare side
shot, probably in Simonsons' Cyclops during their run on X-Factor. As usual,
I have no idea of the issue number, so you're just left with hazy memories,
at best. Sorry.

But, hey -- isn't the memories that count, in the long run anyway?

"Not a sound on the pavement..."

Heh.
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From: SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET (Tad Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: *THE* lamest thing about the X-books
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:40:45 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services

(comments about sillines of power signature deleted to save bandwidth)

Sorry, but I have to disagree (for now).  There is quite a bit of merit to the
'power signature' for _certain_ characters.  Taking one of your examples,
Sunspot, who _else_ has a glowing black field?  Another great example is
Rachel Summers.  If the Phoenix manifestation isn't a signature, I don't know
what is!  ;)  Now, they shouldn't overuse this, and I think IDing Jubilee by
her power is iffy (Boom Boom and Dazzler could create similiar effects).
  Another thing that needs explanation is just how much of what _we_ see is
visible to the comic characters?  The best example of this is Sue Richards.
For example, I have trouble with Jean's TK producing a visible aura, and I'm
not sure if they have ever stated whether it really does, or they just paint
it in to show _the reader_ what is going on.  Anyone with a better memory out
there?  I would hope there isn't an aura, 'cause this would _really_ limit
the applications of TK...

Of course, someone can always go through and compile the definitive list of
power signatures!  Complete with the annotated list of coloring mistakes!  ;)

Oh well, enough rambling...
-Tad
From: robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jay Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: bishop
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:59:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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In article <21JAN199302392030@zeus.tamu.edu> djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:
>when does it state that bishop can't hold the energy for a long period of
>time.
>
>		seth I 

I don't think it is stated directly in the comic book, although it is in 
Marvel RPGA's X-forces (whose given power attributes don't exactly paint the
same picture as one would expect from reading the books, unfortunately).
Anyway, it can be easily inferred from Bishops actions and behavior.  We've 
never seen him go into battle and release a previously absorbed energy blast,
no matter how prepared he is for battle and how soon he does prepare (like in
X-cutioner's Song, he was literally waiting around doing nothing before 
they raided Stryfe's base, and I'm sure there would have been ample places
to charge up at Greymalkin).  If he could carry around stored energy, then
he would store himself up and always have that energy available, _and_ have the
guns (in case he ran out).  But as it is, he has to rely on the guns for 
offense, the energy absorption is a bonus.

Robear (whose mutant power seems to be absorbing bandwidth)
*schlorp*!
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From: jdelisle@sol.ctr.columbia.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler, NCCS, and Excalibur #63
Organization: Boyz from the Dwarf
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:41:00 GMT
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In article <93023.054755SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET>, Tad Simmons <SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes...
>Ok, I had a thought (and: No, the world didn't end).
>When Nicholas (and, on page 24, _why_ is his name accentuated, are we supposed
>to know him?) is talking about Kurt as a second-generation mutant, he says
>"(big red) IF his parents were mutants as well as he...  ...he inherited their
>warped gene as well as developing one of his own."  OK, now, Kurt is the only
>teleporter I can think of off hand, so what does that leave?  Sticking to walls
>and limited invisibility (speaking of which, has this ever been mentioned
>before?  I don't recall it...  Is it mentioned in the Marvel Universe?).  Now,

	No, Kurt's invisibility meant that he had been infected with the 
disease. That's why they ended the session so abruptly.

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From: ryk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RAJAN YASH KHANNA)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: raza
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:07:15 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan21.154955.22475@afterlife.ncsc.mil>, jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.m
il (Jorge DeLaCruz) writes:
>In article <21JAN199303015590@zeus.tamu.edu> djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUA
NE J) writes:
>>i would like info on all  raza's appearances
>>what are is powers? (i know he's a cy-borg is there any beyond that)
>>has his cy-borg parts exibited anything but stregth?
>>all info on his family is really wanted.
>>i find him very interesting and underused.
>>
>>
>     Off-Hand (without looking anything up), he has a son Roin? who was a
>  Slave for the Shi'ar empire, currently alive unknown?  but he did have a
>  brother who worked for Deathbird (had super powers, forgot them but I'm
>  shure someone else knowns).  He was killed by Binary, and he was bad, he
>  wanted to kill his Brother. He appeared in the same issue with Deathbird's
>  twin children, something like Blacklight and Whiteout.
>
    I'm not entirely sure but wasn't Raza's son a slave of the Kree Empire as
    seen in recent issues of Avengers ? They guest starred in two issues with
    an appearance by both the professor and Cyclops. This resulted in Raza
    attacking the Black Knight. Can anyone else support this ?

                                                        The Wanderer


                                                        
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: Bring back Wolverine's new costume!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:56:32 GMT

In article <93026.233642RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu> <RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone out there besides me prefer the brown costume over the yellow
>and blue one?
>
>Does anyone out there know what the storyline was that made Logan switch
>back to his old costume and keep on it?

Well, the reason he had the "new" costume was pretty dumb.  The X-Men were
fighting the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, and Wolvie's costume got blown away. 
He goes up against a guy named Fang, and kicks his butt, taking the clothing
so as not to offend the Almighty Code.  He never even TRIED to go back to
the old one.  Funny, I kinda like it. 
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man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
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	-Ozymandias 		    \	 you wouldn't understand...  
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From: sasso@flounder.phy.anl.gov (John F. Sasso)
Subject: Re: what's up with 'beast'?
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:52:09 GMT

In article <9301271556.AA07131@PCS.CNU.EDU> rglass@PCS.CNU.EDU (Randall Glass) writes:
> What's up with the Beast?  In a recent X-men (or was it Uncanny, I
>can't tell with all the recent "post-xcutioners" happenings) Hank
>was about to have a heart to heart discussion with the Prof until
>that glorious leader Cannonball bursted in.  I've been reading those
>Comic Shop News flyers as well as the Previews interviews featuring
>F.Niceiza (spelling?!).  He said that he had some major plans for
>the blue furball.  Also interesting is what Fabian wrote in the Beast's

Remember that DC and Marvel are planning a glut (of new titles) war this
year.  (Something about a little company out West ;-)).  Odds are he'll
be getting his own book and mutant team.  You heard it here first!

OK, so what mutants are there still floating around that aren't in any
major teams, humm...


jfs



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From: nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Stinky Wizzleteats)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler, NCCS, and Excalibur #63
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:18:38 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Tad Simmons <SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>  Also, I was thinking about how this theory of inherited traits affects the
>NCCS discussion.  We've seen Cable doing TK, and Stryfe doing something that
>looked like an eye blast (assuming that they are the same person, or clones

I thought we already settled that Stryfe's eyeblast in X-Song 12 was just
a manifestation of his TK...as is Cable's glowing eye, which is always
glowing because it enables him to use his bionic arm (this is why he 
couldn't move it when Wipeout removed his powers during the X-Tinction Agenda)

Didn't we?


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From: combsde@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David E. Combs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: comic code
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:57:12 GMT
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In article <26JAN199300544026@summa.tamu.edu> djh4535@summa.tamu.edu  
(HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:
> simply what is it? 
> what is the comic code?
> 
> 		seth I
The CCA (Comics Code Authority) is a group created in the 1950's that was  
supposed to establish high moral values for comic books.  The CCA was  
created out of fear by comic book publishers of outside regultion because  
of an expose of comics entitled, Seduction of the Innocent.  The CCA is  
much more permissive than when it was created and carries much less clout  
than it once did.  Spawn #1 sold over two million copies, and guess  
what...No CCA stamp of approval.

	!RowdyMan!
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Madrox and diseases (was Re: X-Factor #88)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 04:07:40 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
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  <C1Do6M.CBJ@news.ucs.mun.ca>

Actually, I just got into this identical discussion over on GEnie.

My feeling is that, yes, if a dupe of Jamie picked up, say, Herpes, then
one he re-merged the core individual would have it.

PAD
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:05:28 -0500 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rachel Summers, Phoenix, and the Multiverse
Distribution: na

I've heard (again and again) references to the fact that Pheonix did not
exist in Rachel's timeline.  However, in issue #192  (I think -- the
isssue I have in mind is the one where Rachel meets Kitty Pride for the
first time when she returns from Japan) I distinctly remember Rachel
remembering that Kate Pryde (in the future) used the words "Dark
Pheonix" to send Rachel back in time.  Anyone else remember this? 
Wouldn't it mean that Pheonix had existed in Rachel's timeline after all?
Sorry if this topic is getting on everyone's nerves after all the
rehashing, but that point has been bugging me.
 
--Mike
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Subject: Re: what's up with 'beast'?
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:02:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.035209.17433@mcs.anl.gov> sasso@flounder.phy.anl.gov (John F. Sasso) writes:
>In article <9301271556.AA07131@PCS.CNU.EDU> rglass@PCS.CNU.EDU (Randall Glass) writes:
>> What's up with the Beast?  In a recent X-men (or was it Uncanny, I
>>can't tell with all the recent "post-xcutioners" happenings) Hank
>>was about to have a heart to heart discussion with the Prof until
>>that glorious leader Cannonball bursted in.  I've been reading those
>>Comic Shop News flyers as well as the Previews interviews featuring
>>F.Niceiza (spelling?!).  He said that he had some major plans for
>>the blue furball.  Also interesting is what Fabian wrote in the Beast's
>
>Remember that DC and Marvel are planning a glut (of new titles) war this
>year.  (Something about a little company out West ;-)).  Odds are he'll
>be getting his own book and mutant team.  You heard it here first!
>
>OK, so what mutants are there still floating around that aren't in any
>major teams, humm...
>
>
    Maybe he will go back to California and join the Heartbreak Hotel Misfits
  (maybe we will find out the Horrible Power of the Flower Lady) or maybe
  regroup the Gladiators into a Protective Force. I like Rocker (the Horse Face)  and I hope Ivish's Head grows back to Normal (She was once Drawn with a 
  First Long Forehead like Cannonballs).  NOTE: these Mutants are from "Beauty
  and the Beast" with Dazzler and the Beast.

						Jorge
From: Maverick+@CMU.EDU (Chris Holly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Psylocke
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:30:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfLqd9200WB7F30BJ0
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 18-Jan-93 Psylocke by Jay
Michael@ccwf.cc.utex 
> A) Marvel messed up.
> B) Psylocke is not a mutant, thus Psylocke is not Betsy Braddock.  She would
>    have had to "pretend" that Wipeout removed her mutant powers so that the
>    X-men wouldn't get suspicious.

Assuming for one moment that Marvel did not mess up(it is possible)...

    Psylocke may or may not be a mutant.... In an earlier post I
specified that a mutant is someone who has gene traits not in common
with either parent, and therefore, Syrin is not a mutant.  It has been
stated that in reality Psylocke and Captain Brittain's father was a
mystical being from the dimension of other world... However, it has
never been stated what, if any powers he had.... he could have had
Betsy's telepathic powers, Brians Strength and flight powers, Jamie's
Telekinetic/Reality Manipulation powers, a combination of all or none of
these abilities.  Therefore, we cannot be sure if any of the three
Braddock Siblings are truly mutants (it is quite possible that some of
them may be and dome may not).

Giving Obscure Trivia Lad a run for his money,
The Maverick(Chris Holly)
 

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Shi'ar Clones (Was: Re: Cyclops wearing contact lenses
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:45:47 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>Do the Shi'Ar clone?  Have we seen any evidence of this? (No flame just
>asking.)  

Where do you think the Professor got the current body he's wearing?

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