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From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to enter the draft
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:31:47 GMT

dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
> piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL) writes:
>>	As for
>>	Bledsoe, I would hope that the Cardinals look at him, or maybe
>>	the Saints? Denver? 
>>Zip   Steelers in 92!          | Illinois Basketball: More three point 
>
>Everyone will look and drool over Bledsoe, but he will be long gone before any
>of the above teams can get him.  NE or Seattle will take him.  He is clearly 
>the best college QB (at least that i have seen).  

	Isn't New England pretty happy with Zolak? Seattle... um...
	Stoufer? I don't think the perennial losers need to keep drafting 
        QB's and I think they should realize that... If they do draft him, 
        I'd expect trades...
>
>Is the state of Washington a QB haven or what (UW and WSU)?

	Will Billy Jo be drafted high enough to pay back his loans...?
>
>--dave


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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Re: THE BUFFALO BILLS READY TO SQUISH THE FISH!! : )
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:08:07 GMT

In article <5375@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@gte.com writes:
>
>I think this could end up being the most even game of the playoffs.
>Both teams seem to be playing at their peak, they are very similar in
>a lot of ways and they are both very hungry for this win.

I agree. In addition these two teams have played each other something
like 11 times in four years. They know each other inside and out. I
imagine neither team is keeping late hours this week unless some
suprises are being planned.

Does anyone know when buffalo is scheduled
to arrive in Miami? Like last week I'll be happy if Miami plays a good
game. I never expected them to get to the CC game and as far as I'm
concerned the postseason has been gravy. I still can't believe that it
is the middle of January and I get to watch Dolphin football. It's
been a long time. 
 
And to honor our brothers in Miami I would like all of us Fin fans to
get together and make rude farting noises to our gap-toothed friends
in buffalo. But that's another posting... Are you out there Doug?

Tony (go buffalo) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu


...yes the Tegger is a big jerk but he is an integral part of the
atmosphere at Rich Stadium.
                 -Doug Evans (writing about his friend TEGGER)

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From: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Madden is an Idiot.
Reply-To: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 23:36:30 GMT

In article <C0Couw.GLI@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>I used to like to listen to John "MAD" den before, but not
>anymore.  As long as he sticks to the chalk board it is
>OK, but it gets irrittating when he goes on rambling endlessly
>on some silly and unconnected things like a total idiot.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I can see that some people
could get irritated by Madden's style, but personally I *love* to listen
to him. Who would you rather listen to, Dick Vermeil? Or John Robinson?
Fortunately, it looks like Robinson is returning to USC, so I'll be
spared from having to listen to him in the future.

Anyway, Madden's ramblings about things not connected to the game
are a pleasant diversion (IMHO) from the constant over-analysis and
speculation that we are subjected by other announcers (in particular
Joe Theisman on ESPN). Give me Madden any time.

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Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     think they are; they think we
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Greatest Moment
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:16:48 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1993Jan4.174932.18395@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:

>Which event would y'all vote for as "the greatest moment" in
>your favorite franchise's history?

Dallas Cowboys:
The day we traded Hershal Walker.
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From: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Subject: Re: San Fancisco vs the NFC East
Reply-To: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:41:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.152508.12628@asl.dl.nec.com>,
nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
|> After the dust settled from the wildcard games, the NFC is right
where it
|> started three years ago:  San Francisco on top and a bevy of NFC East
teams
|> vying to knock the 49ers off that pedestal.
|> 
|> The NFC playoffs come down to this:  The best team in the NFL vs. the
best
|> division in the NFL, to the victor goes the spoils.
|> 
|> Nix

Just my 0.02$ worth here . . . 

It would be easy for the Eagles/Skins/Boys to be 14-2 if their division
schedules contained such powerhouses as the Falcons (wo Miller), the
Rams,
the Aints ( still have only beaten one team with a winning record) to
beat
up on six out of seven times.  Then to top it all off the 49ers have
one
of the worst stadiums ( except for maybe soldier field ) that you could
ever play in and refs that always seem to "miss" certain "small"
violations
by the 9ers every now and then.  

Its not just the obvious reasons why these things help, but all the
suttle reasons as well.  Playing powder puff teams not only keeps
the record rising, but keeps the players relatively healthy.  Also,
when
you are used to a sh*tty field, it can be a definite plus as far as 
injuries go than when you aren't.  Then there is also the psych job
the powder puff teams give the winner.  Believing you can win is
more than half the battle, since every team has talent.

I have to say that the 49ers are definitely one of the best teams
in the NFL, but I'd like to see them play in the East for a few
years and see if the higher level of competition, the slow
parade of injuries and the overall battle to be the best there
wouldn't bring them down ( just look at the Giants, after a few
years on top, their older players are so battered they had to fight
to stay out of the cellar this year ).


the 49ers :

    one of the best teams in the NFL -> definitely
    the BEST team in the NFL -> IMO, I don't think so.

THE NFC EAST is easily the toughest division in the NFL.

GO EAGLES!!!!!

(Its tough, when the Birds beat Dallas, would you rather
have home field advantage or the chance to not have the
game lost by a spot this time?? Hmmmm? )


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Next Bears Coach
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  5 JAN 93 13:34:22    

The next head coach of the Chicago Bears will be ...

Richie Petitbon, currently defensive coordinator of the Washington
Redskins.

JGH
From: kalina@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (wandering gypsy)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:57:44 GMT
Subject: 49ers - Dallas TICKETS available
Organization: the Belize Reef Club
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro


	... posted for a friend:


		He has 2 tickets available for the 49ers - Dallas championship
playoff game next sunday at the Stick. The tickets are in section 36 (lower boxes)
in the north end zone, 3 rows from the field. The ticket prices are negotiable.

	His name is Michael Tanimoto and he can be reached via email at
mat@cup.hp.com or his home phone number is 408-252-9264 .

glen
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From: kettler@pierre.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: Matchups
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: BILLS PREVAIL: LET'S GO CHARGERS!! :)
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:34:00 GMT

In article <C0ML4D.Goy@acsu.buffalo.edu>, kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) 
       writes...
>In article <1993Jan10.025139.25979@ncsu.edu> rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu 
(RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>   Well, the little fishies from Miami thought that sliding into the AFC
>> East title was their ticket to the Super Bowl. All I can say is, San Diego,
>> end this charade. Put the Dolphins away, so the Bills will have a nice
>> sandlot football game in Jack Murphy. The Bills want to play class, not
>> chumps for the AFC title!!! :)
>>
>> 1964 AFL title- Buffalo 20, San Diego 7
>> 1965 AFL title- Buffalo 20, San Diego 0
>>
>>
>> Let the streak continue!!! :) This time, AFL=AFC!!!! :)
> 
>I think San Diego already  broke this streak in '80 or '81 when they beat us 
>in the playoffs. The game was played in San Diego.
>--Jim

Jim is correct. In 1980, San Diego as the AFC West winner beat Buffalo, the 
AFC winner by a score of 20-14. This was the year that Oakland won the Super 
Bowl as a wild-card helped in part by a big Brian Sipe interception enabling 
Oakland to beat Cleveland in the other divisional game.

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Bengals Fanatic"
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From: hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: Re: Running out the clock with the R&S
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:34:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.185955.20916@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
> How the heck do you run out the clock in the R&S?  Short passes over 
> the middle I suppose.  But you can't run the same play over and over.  
> What else can you run?  Draw plays?  Not very effective when you've 
> got a big lead.  Screens?  Ditto.
> 
> JGH


With the new rules the clock keeps running even on incomplete passes
and players going out of bounds until the final 5 minutes of the
2nd and 4th quarters.  So, if you can hang onto the ball in any
offense you can run out the clock.  What was Houston's time of 
possession in the first half, something like 24 minutes?  They had
a couple of drives in excess of 10 plays.  Doesn't seem like R&S
is the problem here.  The toughest part of the R&S has historically
been scoring once you reach the "red zone".  It is a short field and
no tight end or big backs to help bang it in.

   Steve H.
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills comments
Date: 13 Jan 93 05:09:07 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <C0rx0H.JCu@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.174144.6288@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:
>>I was thinking about next year's draft and where the Bills will go but I 
>>can't seem to find a weak spot on the team:
>
>I can find one glaring weak spot: safety Mark Kelso. Cut him (impossible to
>trade, nobody will take him). He always plays away from the ball. He is too
>hesitant and "gun-shy" from all the concussions he's had. Time to
>strengthen the one weak position on the team.
>--Jim

But isn't Kelso the "defensive captain" of the team??
If he's out of the team, who's gonna replace him as the leader of the defense?
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From: jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin)
Subject: Re: Dallas on Real Grass
Originator: jmartin@cleomed
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:44:11 GMT

From article <3304@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, by dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch):
> In article <1isolrINNko5@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:
>>10-25 at Raiders    1-0
>>11-22 at Phoenix    2-0
>>12-6  at Denver     3-0
>>12-13 at Washington 3-1
>>
> You forgot the loss at Philadelphia, which makes them 3-2.  'Course, they
> shoulda won the Redskins game . . . :^)  ....................

I'm almost sure Veterns Stadium has always had an artificial surface.
So 3-1 it is. Hopefully 4-1 by this time next week.

      [stuff deleted ]

> 
> Daniel Welch
> ----
> My so-called friends say you're not alive;
> I'll bake their bones for telling lies.

Jeff Martin
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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Subject: who'd replace Wannestadt?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:11:32 GMT


If Wannedstadt does leave to coach the Giants, who'd replace him,
someone already on the coaching staff?  Since I don't live in the
Dallas area, I don't get to follow the news/info about the other
coaches.

I think the significance question is to what extent will the shuffling
-- 

Gary Beason    			      
Purdue University
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: A PHONE MESSAGE FROM DON BOELL, Neanderthal Man 
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 14:36:01 GMT


The following is a transcript of a phone message received from Don Boell of 
Hewlett Packard on 04-jan-1993 at about 5:30 PM central time:

********************************************************************************

Hey Chad buddy, this is Don boell from Hewlett Packard. <pause>
Anytime you want to fly out to San Francisco I'll whip your ass <pause>,
YOU STUPID DORK!!!  <heavy breathing, sounds like he is reading this>

Talk about insulting comments, your pub <stutter> your posting to a public forum
<pause to catch breath or to read more> such a vulgar statements you just make
me sick.
<long pause>
Me and my <short pause> friends from the eighty-second airborne would love to
kick your fuckin' butt!!
<end of message, heavy breathing, hang up>

********************************************************************************

This is what I must deal with.  Need I say anything more????
Just give it up Donny boy.  Or are your airborne friends from St. Paul going
to kill me.......

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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC Playoffs show restructure necessary?
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:15:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1ichg9INNkm4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, fins@radgumbo.Eng.Sun.COM (Rich S
chiavi) writes:
>With 3 of the 4 final teams coming from the NFC East (which seems to
>be a fairly frequent occurance. . ) has anyone heard any talk of
>restructuring the conferences the way they should be.  I.E. Dallas
>and New Orleans should be in the Central. Phoenix in the West.
>Tampa Bay and Atlanta in the East.  I think that about covers it.
>The Niners will still have no talent to go against swapping Phoenix
>for New Orleans, but it does beef up the Central and tame the East a bit.
>
>
>---
>       +-------------------------------+
>       | Rich Schiavi                  |
>       | SunPics                       |
>       | fins@radgumbo.Eng.Sun.Com     |
>       +-------------------------------+
>
Too logical!
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|   Manager - ADMO     |
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:18:19 GMT

In article <16B4DDF49.ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> istre@ricevm1.rice.edu writes:
>I would like to cast my vote for the fans who have suffered the most. I am
>talking about their team having high expectations only to falter in the
>end. I will call this the "Most Frustrated Fans" award.
> 
>The nominees are:
> 
>1): Denver Broncos fans - 
> 
>2): Minnesota Vkings fans - 
> 
>3): Cleveland Browns fans - 
> 
>4): Buffalo Bills fans - 
> 
>5): Houston Oilers fans - 
> 
>And the winner is ---- you guessed it, Houston Oilers fans. And yes, you
>guessed it, I am an Oilers fan. What else can you say when your team has
>made the playoffs six years in a row without a least making it to the
>title game at least once. At least the Broncos, Vikings, and Bills have
>made it to the Super Bowl and the Browns have made it to the title game.
> 
>OK, I apologize, After all, I am only venting off some 20 years of play-
>off anger and frustration.
>
You did not mention:

6.  New Orleans Saints fans - you fill in the reasons. 

7.  San Francisco 49er fans - WHAT!? we wuz robbed for a "three peat" :-)
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 6 Jan 1993 15:05:44 CET
From: RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Steve Young + Joe M. < Steve Young

Hi all,

I'd like to find out what the net's prominent (and less prominent)
niner fans really think about the Steve Young situation.

You must all remember last year when Steve had to split the helm
with Steve Bono, and where he did not produce many TD's. I remember
everybody clamouring for Bono because he got all the TD's.

This year Steve Young has had no such problem.
But look what happened in the last game when he had to allow another
QB next to him.
Do you think the damage is already done? SF's first playoff game is
going to be very very tough, especially since Washington seems to
be ready.
I am personally hoping for a Washington - Dallas title game
(and Buffalo-Miami in the AFC).
Let's see....

Rene Zandbergen
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From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:56:35 GMT

  Just one piece of advice -- ignore this guy.

--
Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: A rara avis of a woof for JPG...
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:54:40 GMT

In article <1isqg3INN4t7@rave.larc.nasa.gov> azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (John Paul Phillips) writes:
>(It's a slow day at work, so I decided to post this. Part of the
>reason for the title is that I rarely woof, but I need to let off
>some steam after yesterday's most excellent game! The other reason,
>well, read on...)
>
> Mr. John P. Gloria, you claim that your middle initial stands for Paul just
>like me, but I suspect that it stands for Poultry. In view of your pervious
>behavior, I hope you don't eat at KFC, or you would be committing cannibalism!
>After having plucked and dressed the Eagles, The Metallic and Royal Blue JJs 
>are going to show your beloved team for the turkeys that they are! In other
>words, Steve (or Joe) is going to feel like that he has been cast in the
>sequel to Hitchcock's avian suspense flick! 
>Before you squawk, remember that they couldn't beat the Cardinals. Every game
>that they've played was close, except for the Falcons! They'll be lucky to

I hope I'm not stepping into a major flame war, but I'd like to 
correct some "facts" here.  I define close as 7 points or less.  With
that, the Cowboys had 6 close games and the 49ers had 7.  Not much of
a difference.

>avert a goose egg against the top-ranked defense in the NFL! You watch and
>see if the 9ers don't stuck their heads in the mud like ostriches and if the
>fat lady don't start to imitate a  canary, and perform the 9ers' swan song 
>before halftime! 
>Your team better be ready to duck their own fans tossing objects at them! The
>Penguin has more class than your team, and Big Bird has more brains than the
>9ers' coach! Your eyes gonna to get round like an owl's and then they'll
>burst with tears! You and your team are gonna eat crow! After the game, I'm
>sure that we wouldn't hear a peep from you until next season! I know that
>it's going to be tough to swallow all this, but you have been warned.
>You better hope that the punishment come swiftly, so you can go fly a kite in
>that windbag of a stadium (Of course, you'll have to go around that giant egg
>that your team's going to lay)! The entire point of this post is that your
>team's for the BIRDS!
>
>
>Note: For those affronted by this post, I know a surgeon who does 
>sense-of-humor implants. E-mail me for details.
>
>
>COWBOYS FOREVER!
>
>
>           John Paul Phillips
>                  "Azjohn"
>NASA - Langley Research Center
>        Hampton, Virginia, USA


From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:16:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Vikings Playoff chances/QB
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server