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From: tstil@Auspex.COM (Tim Stilwell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Thai music question: Tuning a Kim+
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:47:40 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

Sawasdee Khrup Tuk Kon

Does anybody know this...

	Last week, my friends Brian and Greg prepared to play kim+ for the Loy
	Gratong celebration at Wat Buddhanusorn.  They tried to tune 7 kim+
	to sound the same.  They used a tool to adjust the tension in the wires.
	All of the instruments sounded different.  After much adjustment, a
 	few sounded similiar.  But we did not know how to tune them to a 
	standard.  What if they all sound the same but they all sound flat?

	How do Thais tune their kim+?  Thai music is based on scales of 7 full
	tones?  Do Thais use tuning forks?  Which ones?  Western music is
	based on scales of 6 full tones with 2 half tones.  Tuning forks are
	available.  Usually C, F or G or Bb (B flat).

	If tuning forks are used, where can I purchase one?  If they are not
	used, how do Thais do it?  By ear?

Khawp Khun Khrup

	tim

	
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From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Princess Sirindhorn to visit the US: Itinerary
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:40:52 GMT
Keywords: Thailand

Saturday, November 7, 1992
   
   5:05 pm	To arrive at Dulles Airport, Washington, D.C.

Sunday, November 8, 1992

   6:30 pm	To meet with Thai people at Georgetown Conference Center

Monday, November 9, 1992

   		To visit US government agencies

Tuesday, November 10, 1992

   		To visit US government agencies

Wednesday, November 11, 1992

   2:30 pm 	On plane to Boston

Thursday, November 12, 1992

   
   1:30 pm 	To see exhibition on the Mother Princess (Som+Dej'Phra"Sri+
		NNa"Kra"RinDhraaBoRomRaaj"ChonNa"Nii) at Simmons College

   4:30 pm      To preside in the opening ceremony of the exhibition on the
		100th year anniversary of Father Prince (KomLuang+Song+Khla+
		Na"Ka"Rin Som+DejRaajBi'Daa)

Friday, November 13, 1992

		To visit the government agencies, State of Massachusetts

Saturday, November 14, 1992

   10:00 am	To preside the openning ceremony of Bhummibhol Adulayadej
		Square, Boston

   11:00 am     To see the exhibition on the 100th year anniversary of 
		Som+DejRaajBi'Daa set up by Thai student associations and
		Thai community in Boston.
   Afternoon	To depart for the Grand Canyon

Sunday, November 15, 1992

		To visit the Grand Canyon

Monday, November 16, 1992

		To depart for Hawaii

Tuesday, November 17, 1992

		To stay at Hawaii

Wednesday, November 18, 1992

		To depart for Tokyo




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Source: TASANA, October 1992, p.4

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From: tun@quark.SFSU.EDU (Coban Tun)
Subject: burmese troops clashes with Thais inside Thailand
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 02:04:39 PST
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RTw  11/05 0530  BURMESE TROOPS CLASH WITH THAIS INSIDE THAILAND

 (Eds: leads with clash between Burmese and Thai troops)
    MAE SOT, Thailand, Nov 5, Reuter - Burmese troops pursuing ethnic guerrillas
clashed with Thai forces inside Thailand on Thursday, an army source on the
border said.
    A Burmese unit chasing Karen guerrillas exchanged fire with Thai soldiers at
Ban Mai Pang village in Maehongson province but no casualties were reported, he
told Reuters.
    About 50 Burmese soldiers were dug in on the Thai side of the border and
the Thais had called for air support.
    "We sent a reconnaisance plane to the fighting area and have ordered
ground troops to push out the intruder with artillery," the army source said.
    In Bangkok, a senior army source said a visit to Rangoon next Sunday by
supreme commander Air Chief Marshal Voranat Apichari had been postponed
because of the border tension.
    "Rangoon just informed us today that they are not ready to welcome us at
the time being," he said.
    Thai intelligence sources on the border said Karen guerrillas, who have
been fighting for autonomy in Burma for nearly four decades, had killed 17
government troops and wounded many more in an ambush on Sunday as the soldiers 
cleared mines.
    The ambush occurred about 40 km (25 miles) southwest of Myawadi, the town
on the Burmese side of the River Moei which marks the border with Thailand.
    About 100 soldiers were said to be taking part in the mine-clearing
operation.
    Fighting has broken out along the border as the rainy season ends, with the
Burmese army moving up more troops in another bid to crush the guerrillas. An
important Karen camp fell last week.
    The army almost captured the Karen headquarters at Manerplaw in its last
campaign but suspended the assault in May in what the ruling Rangoon junta
said was a gesture of reconciliation.
    Guerrillas and Burmese dissidents sometimes seek refuge across the border in
Thailand which has generally maintained cordial relations with the Burmese
junta.
From: jdcarmack@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: New arrests in Thai flesh trade scandal
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:51:38 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <Bx9xqz.MHq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong) writes:
> See details in....
> 
> From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
> Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.sex,clari.news.group.women
> Subject: New arrests in Thai flesh trade scandal
> Date: 5 Nov 92 14:10:42 GMT
> Lines: 31
> 
> 

We don't get clari.news.* here.  Perhaps, if enough people are interested,
then those that do receive it can repost appropriate articles here in s.c.t.

Anyone else interested?

John Carmack
Miami University
Oxford, Ohio
From: tstil@Auspex.COM (Tim Stilwell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok has city planning?
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:48:08 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

Sawasdee khrup tuk kon

   I was wondering....

   Does Bangkok have a government department that controls city growth?

   I noticed that my right to enjoy a good night's sleep may be infringed
   as my neighbor's continue building their new skyscraper 24 hours a day!

   Many American cities have adopted the idea of city planning.  Regions
   of the city are restricted to specific development.  Businesses will
   be located in one section, houses and apartments and schools in another,
   factories and warehouses in another.

   I saw a video at a school in one of Bangkok's famous slums.  The video
   showed a very famous Thai woman arguing against a lawyer and some
   policemen.  The policemen had been ordered to evacuate a slum building
   so the owner could have it demolished.  The people had been living
   in the building for almost 10 years.

   I had mixed feelings when I saw this video.  I felt the owner had the
   right to evict trespassers.  The people were not paying rent.  Why
   should they be allowed to live there for free?  The people were from
   poor villages.  Some would only stay for a short time to earn money
   in the city when the farms do not need labor.  These people would
   return to their farms in a few months.  Others do not contribute to
   the society.  They spend any money they receive on drugs or alcohol.
   They do not work, they beg for money instead.  Why would anyone want
   to help these people?  But some of the people had lived in this old
   building for 10 years.  Why did the owner wait so long to ask them
   to leave?  Does the owner have any responsibility to care for his
   property?  The owner did not care for his land until he found someone
   interested in buying it to build a new property.

   This problem is very complicated.  I think it would be slightly less
   complicated if Bangkok had laws controlling city growth and landlord
   responsibility for property.

   tim
From: sjk@ut-emx.uucp (Phil Alvin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: New arrests in Thai flesh trade scandal
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:12:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83426
Organization: Fred's Lounge

In article <1992Nov7.185138.14096@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, jdcarmack@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
> 
> We don't get clari.news.* here.  Perhaps, if enough people are interested,
> then those that do receive it can repost appropriate articles here in s.c.t.
> 
> Anyone else interested?

Yes!
scot
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: amara@wam.umd.edu (Amara Tremongkol Naksathit)
Subject: Bangkok's New Skyways
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:51:08 GMT

BANGKOK'S NEW SKYWAYS: THE ANSWER TO THE CITY'S TRAFFIC OR AN
URBAN PIPE DREAM

	The Bangkokians in the nineteenth century would have
had found it was hard to believe that an once "Venice of the
East" has now turned into a motorist's worst nightmare.

 	Since an American adviser suggested of expanding the
city by building more roads and filling in the canals in 1957,
Bangkok relied heavily on the ground mode of transportation.
A number of cars accelerated from 200,000 in 1972 to two
millions in 1990. The city's traffic surface is 8% of the total
area instead of the suggested minimum 20 percentage for a city.
The average speed of 4-5 kilometers an hour, during rush hours
in this city, is world renowned.

	Beside misery for motorists and bus riders, Bangkok's
traffic has brought in an alternative mode of transportation.
Motor bike taxi is an excellent example. It was estimated that
in 1991 more than 570,000 bike trips a day were made by those
impatient and desperate Bangkokians.

	But dangerous motor bikes definitely are not the answer
to the Bangkok traffic which is now a major national crisis. The
city loses about $ million a day on burning gasoline alone.

	Bangkok is now spending billions bath on its new freeway 
system. A lot of motorists have a lot of high hopes for these new
freeways. But Dr. Krisada Aroonwongse Na Ayutthaya, the Bangkok's
major, said that if what freeways do is bring cars into the inner
city only faster, then free-ways will only become a part of the
problem.

	While the increasing use of privated cars is being criticized,
the ultra modern mass transit systems such as the Inner Transit System
and the Bangkok Transit System are being widely encouraged, some are
also concerned about the environmental effect, both visually and
socially, this gigantic construction project may have on the city.

	Some also interestingly pointed out that this expading city has
neither master city plan nor the systematic planning. Land development
have been exploiding the city's use of land for two decades. Hopefully
the freshly active city plan law will be play a major part of the answers.

From Feature Magazine ( 'Sarakadee '), October, 1992.
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 15:53:02 -0500 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: FIBO:Call for applications

[Repost]

=========================================================================

CENTER OF OPERATION FOR FIELD ROBOTICS DEVELOPMENT(FIBO)
King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
91 Suksawasd 48 Bangmod Bangkok 10140
THAILAND

=========================================================================
To whom it may concern:

    This is to inform that King Mongkut's Institute of Technology
Thonburi (KMITT) is in the process of setting up FIBO (center of
operation for FIeld roBOtics development) which will be one of the
centers of the Institute for Scientic and Technological Research and
Service of KMITT.

    FIBO will be designed to undertake research, development, design and
fabrication of industrial robots and will assist industry in selecting
and utilizing industrial robots.  FIBO will also be a part of KMITT's
Industrial Park which will be located at a new site being developed at
present.


                               Sincerely,

                               (Signed)

                               Dr. Harit  Sutabutr
                               Director
                               Metal and Material Technology National Center
                               Royal Thai Government

==============================================================================
JOB ANNOUCEMENT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Applications are invited for full-time assistant professors,
full-time and part-time research positions.  Applicants must have Master
or Ph.D degree in, at least, one of the following areas:

        - Mechanical Engineering: CAD/CAM, Design and Robotics,
        - Computer Engineering: AI, Expert Systems,
        - Electrical Engineering: Sensor and Vision Technology,         
               microprocessor application,

    with strong background in computer controlled simulation and
implementation.  Principle duties will include responsibility for
research and development of field robotics and automation systems for
local industries in Thailand.  Ability to lecture graduate course is
optional.  Competitive salary and benefits.  If interested, send your
resume to:


            Dr.  Harit  Sutabutr
            Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO)
            King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
            91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana  Bangmod
            Bangkok 10140, Thailand
 

            Tel. No. 428-3374, 427-4421 and 4270151-9  
            Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

    or

            Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana
            Department of Mechanical Engineering
            Carnegie Mellon University
            5000 Forbes Ave.
            Pittsburgh, PA 15217
            USA

            Tel. No. 268-8880
            Fax. No. 268-3348

            e-mail: sl2k@andrew.cmu.edu


 =============================================================================
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From: anuchit@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Anuchit Anuchitanukul)
Subject: Re: Post Nov 11: NGO urges Chuan to be tough on hooker problem
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:28:09 GMT

In article <9211101712.AA29317@ipied.tu.ac.th.tu.ac.th> kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th (Kamol Hengkietisak) writes:
>
>NON-GOVERNMENT organisations working for the rights of women and 
>children yesterday called on the prime minister to adopt effective 
>measures in tackling the problems of forced prostitution.
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have read many articles in s.c.t. regarding prostitution problem.
Most (actually almost all) of them emphasize on *forced* prostitution
and they give me an impression that they somehow imply that voluntary 
prostitution is OK.  Why do we make such a distinction between 
forced and voluntary prostitution?  They are both a part of a big problem
which we have to solve.  No kind of prostitution, not even the weakest
form, should be tolerated for whatsoever reason.  It is increasingly 
disappointing when goverment officials talked about brothels (which they 
obviously have the full knowledge of) as if such places could be legally 
operated. 

I know many people will argue that there are mafias behind the scence
but prostitution is a shame for the country and no one, especially
the goverment officials, should talk about it as if it is acceptable. 

Anuchit
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From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: Seeking recipe for LARB GAI
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:57:45 GMT

bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:


>I'd like to find a recipe for a Thai chicken salad type
>dish called Larb Gai.
>  Thanks in advance
>-- 
>Ted....

Let me try to help.

Ingredients:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
	Grounded chicken 		2 lbs
	Green onion (sliced)	      1/2 cup
	Red onion cut in thin wedges  1/2 cup
	Mint leaves (shreded)         1/2 cup
	Fish sauce			4 table spoons
	Lemon juice			4 table spoons
	Grounded roasted-rice 		1 cup
 	Green pepper (sliced)	        1 tea spoon

Procedures:
~~~~~~~~~~~

	Stir the chicken in the hot pan until it is quite done. Leave it
cool down.
	Mix the chiken with fish sauce and then add lemon juice; add
green onion, red onion, pepper, and mint leaves; add fish sauce or lemon 
juice to taste. Add the roasted rice powder. Taste it one more time and
add ingredients until it tastes right.
	Eat with rice or sticky rice. Look for some crunchy vegetable like
lettuce or napa to eat with.

(Note: To prepare the grounded roasted rice: first of all heated a pan and
put in one cup of rice, stir it back and forth until it is getting brown.
Use the coffee grounder to ground it. Some like it fine while the other may 
like it rough. Choose what you like. The rough one could add texture to 
your larb. If you cannot find the green pepper, use the dried one but you
have to roast it first and then ground it. The larb should taste to the
combination of sourness, saltyness, and hotness. Don't ever add sugar!)

No patent right is attached. Please alter anything needed. If you try, please
let us know the result.

Samart Srijumnong
Champaign, Illinois
November 8, 1992 (B.E. 2535)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: andrew@huey.met.fsu.edu (Andrew Devanas)
Subject: Re: Airlines recommendations needed
Organization: Department of Meteorology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:37:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.150716.17398@research.nj.nec.com> shm@syl.nj.nec.com writes:
>Hi netters!
>
>My  wife need to go to Thailand in February. I am wondering if anyone could 
>recommend a good (cheap) air lines or travel agent or point to FAQ somewhere. 
>From Thailand I am planning to go to India, my home country before comming back 
>and the rates I was quoted so far is more than 2 grans.
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>Shailendra (shm@syl.nj.nec.com)

Try Gateway Travel in Dallas, Tx. phone# 1-800-999-8893 talk to Oar. They have
been the cheapest that I have found. Good luck.
 

   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: myellam@eng.clemson.edu (Y. MURALI KRISHNA)
Subject: Email for AIT, Bangkok.
Reply-To: myellam@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:06:39 GMT





Dear Netters,
	Thanks to all those who responded to my posting a few days back.  If anyone
any info on this issue, I have made a compilation of all the responses, which can
obtained by mailing to me.

murali

(myellam@eng.clemson.edu)
From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Computer Software Industry in Thailand
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:46:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0eyJs2G00Uh_M3FEpc
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    Many Thais and foreigners(companies) send private e-mails to me
requesting information on Computer Software Industry in Thailand.  I am
very delightful to see those of you are interested in the matter.  In my
next posts, I've decided to reveal product/process/technology of this
industry in three levels: micro, mini and mainfram computer.  I hope
this information helps.  Please share your opinions and suggestions in
the net.  I know there are a lot of you out there.

With Great Respect,
Schitt  Laowattana

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Subject: burmese troops cross border harass refugees
Date: 7 Nov 92 10:13:55 GMT
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RTw  11/06 0125  BURMA TROOPS CROSS BORDER TO HARASS REFUGEES
 
    By Sutin Wannabovorn
    BANGKOK, Nov 6, Reuter - Burmese troops have crossed into Thailand and
threatened 2,000 Karenni refugees who have fled over the border to escape a
Rangoon offensive, Thai army sources said on Friday.
    About 100 Burmese soldiers in hot pursuit of Karenni guerrillas were dug
in about two km (one mile) inside Thailand.
    They had sent out patrols to harass the civilian refugees and try to push
them back, the sources said.
    "We are urging them (the soldiers) to pull out of our territory or we will
use force," said one source contaced by phone from Bangkok.
    Fighting has broken out on a long stretch of the border as the Burmese
army takes advantage of the end of the rainy season to attack an array of 
guerrilla forces representing ethnic minorities.
    The Karenni are a small tribe related to the more powerful Karen.
    About 2,000 Karenni civilians, most of them women and children, have sought
refuge in Thailand's Maehongson province since the Burmese army overran a
guerrilla camp last Thursday.
    A Thai army source in Mae Sot province, to the south, quoted Burmese
civilians as saying the Burmese army had rounded up about 2,000 people near
the border town of Myawaddi to act as porters.
    They were loaded on to trucks and taken to areas near Kowmura, the Karen
National Union guerrillas' second biggest base. The souces said the move
indicated an assault on the camp was imminent.
    Burmese troops pursuing guerrillas clashed with Thai forces inside
Thailand on Thursday.
    The tension has caused the postponement of a visit to Rangoon by the Thai
supreme commander, Air Chief Marshal Voranat Apichari, planned for Sunday, a
senior army source said.
    The Burmese almost captured the Karen headquarters at Manerplaw in its last
campaign but suspended the assault in May in what the ruling junta in Rangoon
said was a gesture of reconciliation.
    Guerrillas and Burmese dissidents often seek refuge across the border in
Thailand, which has generally maintained cordial relations with the junta.
 REUTER AM JS GD
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