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From: hp48sx@wupost.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE/30 **RUMOR** question
Date: 25 Jul 1992 05:14:03 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: wuarchive.wustl.edu

jlw7@ellis.uchicago.edu (jonathan lee wanak) writes:

>I have HEARD third-hand (from an unknown source) that the SE/30 MIGHT be pro-
>duced again.  Is there any validity to this rumor?

>Again, this is a RUMOR I've heard, and wish to verify.

The rumor may be based on the fact that a poll among MacWeek corporate
users wanted to get the SE/30 back. It is a good server machine, small
in size, and good performance. I think that there will come a new
compact Mac with lots of power. But the question is when. A compact mac
has some advantages over the Powerbooks. It can use much more power,
allowing for use of the 040, and expansion cards etc. And even with
additional external monitor the built in video is not useless. At least
not on my SE/30.
-- 
Povl H. Pedersen             hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu
HP48sx archive maintainer

All Opinions (C) Copyright the Integalactic Thought Association
From: Lou_R_Ordorica@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: IIsi Monitor Advice Needed
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:25:01 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world


I'm planning to purchase a IIsi when Aug 1 (and the new educational
prices) rolls in.

The campus computer dealer wants $680.00 for the Apple 13" RGB
monitor - aren't there other less-expensive monitors available
that will work with the IIsi?

Can the IIsi, like the LC, use VGA-style monitors with the 
appropriate cable?

Any and all tips will be appreciated!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer)
Subject: MacWeek rumors (was  Re: PowerBook 145?)
Keywords: PowerBook
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:06:14 GMT

> MacWeek has an article on the 145 and future models of the PowerBook on
> page 1 this week (7/27/92).

Please post some details for us folk who don't have access to MacWeek.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Use Sun Monitor M19P114 on MAC?
From: danb@mcl.saic.com
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:48:10 EDT

Can I use a Sun Monitor, part number 365-1086-01, model m19p114,
as a Mac monitor?  I looks like a 19" monochrome monitor, has
a nine pin D connector on it, but I have no documentation or specs.
Does anyone know pin configuration, bandwidth, or if I can use with a 
RailGun accellerator card? (or can I use it as a TTL monochrome, or VGA 
monochrome on a PC)? tks.
Dan Butkiewicz, SAIC, 703-749-5956

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Apple CD150 Plus
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
     <hp48sx.712344240@wuarchive.wustl.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:15:16 GMT



In article <6319@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> Chuck Melikian,
chuckm@tekig5.pen.tek.com writes:
>>> I really like the Apple CD 150.  it is faitly inexpensive, fast, and
so far,
>>> extremely reliable. I don't think it reads multisession PhotoCDs, but
not many
>>> drives do.
>>
>>Are there ANY that do?
>>
>>--Pete Poorman
>>  poorman@convex.com
>
>According to recent NEC advertisments, their CDR-74 and CDR-84 drives
will.
>
>Chuck

I called NEC and asked the question of how many PhotoCD sessions could be
read by the CDR-83.  The answer was none.  Of course I have seen the NEC
adds in MacLeak, and in the ad they do mention PhotoCD capability.  I
suspect the CDR-73/83 drives will be limited to one session.

--- Gavin
Gone Fission.          Visualize Whirled Peas!
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBook 100 Pricing: Here's Why
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:22:37 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Jul28.011144.21903@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke) writes:
>
>Apparently, for those stunned and in AWE at pricing for the PB100, it has
>been stated that Apple has officially DISCONTINUED the PB100 and to clear out
>its remaining stock

WHO stated this - one of your pals on freenet, or did you see a published
report in a reputable magazine?

Of course it would not surprise me if this were really true, but according
to MacWeek it is not.  They state that the PB100 has been removed from 
normal dealer price lists and is being test marketed through Price Club.
The article states that no cutoff date for the test has been set.  An
article in the current MacWeek says the PB100 2/20 will possibly be sold
by mail order.

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cam@athena.mit.edu (Daniel Cameron Daly)
Subject: Re: Powerbook Prices, marketing (was Price Club,etc.)
Keywords: powerbook  price club
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:14:48 GMT


I posted yesterday that I got a PB 100 from the Price Club for $899 and
have gotten a lot of mail since then about it.  Here is information for
anyone who wants to get one.  The closest Club to the Mass. area is in
connecticut, at 555 Universal Drive North, North Haven.  The number is
(203)-234-8627.  I also know the number at the one in Northern Virginia,
it is (703)-222-2800.  The company is based in California, and has locations
in lots of places.  I am not an employee or anything, just a happy
customer.  The only catch is that you have to be a member of the Price
Club, and only businesses and government personnel can join (as far as
I know) so you may have toconvince your boss to sign up.  It is only
around $25 a year, though, which isn't that bad.  Good luck to everyone
who tries to get one, and I will give any information anyone needs, but
please don't ask me to buy a computer for you.  Thanks.

Cam Daly
cam@athena.mit.edu


--
"Cam Daly"
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:14015 comp.sys.mac.wanted:6867 misc.forsale.computers:27358
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:32:56 EDT
From: <WXT106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: For Sale: Mac Printer Driver Software

"PrintLink Collection" by GDT Software(1-800-663-6222), if you have a nonmac pr
inter such as Epson, Brother,Panasonic or other and has no idea how to get them
 to work on a mac, then you need this software, It covers a wide variety of pri
nters, It comes with 2 disks, manual, including a cable, 9pin -> 25 serial cabl
e, It worked perfectly on my Epson 85, I am selling it because I got a Laserwri
ter(the software is only for ImageWriters.  I bought it for $99 this spring and
 I am selling for $50+shipping.  If you are interested, please contact me.

Weilong Tang
WXT106@psuvm.psu.edu
From: sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: A (not so?) stupid modem question.
Date: 28 Jul 1992 22:25:14 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu


*Hayes-compatible* modems are modems.  Any Macintosh comm software
should work with any 100% Hayes-compatible modem.  If you get a 
high-speed modem (>9600 bps) you need a hardware-handshaking cable
($25 street).  Check out the FAQ for comp.sys.mac.comm for a more
detailed treatment of "Which modem should I buy..."

-- 
-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------
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sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu | Though it cost you all you have, get understanding.
                       |                                -- Proverbs 4:7 (NIV)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: weigert@etlhit.etl.go.jp (Thomas Weigert)
Subject: supra fax modem
Reply-To: weigert@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba-shi, Japan
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:07:51 GMT


Could anyone please report on first-hand experience with the
SupraFaxModem V.32? For example, do you experience failures
of class 3 fax machines connecting to your fax?

Also, what is the difference between the V.32bis and the V.32? 

Thanks, Thomas.

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+--------------------------------+---------------------------------+
| Thomas Weigert                 |                                 |
| Machine Inference Section      |                                 |
| Electrotechnical Laboratory    |                                 |
| Umezono 1-1-4, Tukuba-shi      | weigert@{mcs.anl.gov,etl.go.jp} |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: charlesg@cco.caltech.edu (Charles Grosjean)
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 + VRAM+ Apple 16 inch = HUH?!!??!
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:38:51 GMT

rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman) writes:

>Would/Could someone please explain to me WHY if you take a Quadra 700,
>hook it to an Apple 16-inch monitor, and add a VRAM upgrade that you get
>8-bit (256 colors) and 24-bit (millions) but NO 16-BIT (thousands)???

So far, only the LC II, Quadra 950, 8*24 (Rev. B) and 8*24GC (Rev. B)support
16-bit color.

	13"		16"		19"		21"
Q950	512K = 8-bit	512K = 8-bit	512K = 4-bit?	512K = 4-bit
	1 MB = 16-bit	1 MB = 16-bit	1 MB = 8-bit?	1 MB = 8-bit
	2 MB = 24-bit	2 MB = 24-bit	2 MB = 16-bit	2 MB  = 16-bit


For the Q950 with 19", I'm guessing because the notes I have don't explicitly
list the screen depth except that the 2MB = 16-bit figure is accurate.

Hope this helps.

>               Thanks,
>                 Roby

Charles
From: hedges@pilot.njin.net (Douglas Hedges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac+ power supply for DIY?
Keywords: Mac Plus, power supply
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:22:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

tobridg@scivax.lerc.nasa.gov (James Bridges) writes:

>Doesn't anyone sell the MacPlus power supply to those of us that don't
>mind taking soldering iron in hand?

Contact Soft Solutions in Eugene OR for parts.  Great folks
to do business with.  Get a hold of Larry Pina's book
"Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets."  Together these
have gotten me though several repairs (flyback transformer, etc.)
of power supply repairs w/no downtime (I order parts
in advance) and at much less cost.

NOTE:  No connection w/Soft Solutions other than as a
completely satisfied customer.
From: dswartz@redondo.sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 3.5 inch Syquests- anyone seen them?
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:50:17 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Jul30.222445.4649@msc.cornell.edu> maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
>In article <158jl1INNlck@smurf.smurf.sub.org>, urlichs@smurf.sub.org
>(Matthias Urlichs) writes:
>>In comp.sys.mac.hardware, article
>><1992Jul26.215528.8021@msc.cornell.edu>,
>>  maynard@ept.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
>>> 
>>> If these things don't appear soon and I'm forced to buy the standard
>>5.25
>>> inch 88MB Syquests, is this a good idea? Are these great value or so
>>> fragile that they're not worth the time? I want a medium for backup, and
>>an
>>> auxiliary hard drive to which I can link uncommonly used stuff via
>>aliases,
>>> so I don't care about details like compatiblity with service bureas and
>>> other macs.
>>> 
>>Did you consider 3.5" opticals? 
>
>When the drives cost 10% more than Syquests, rather than twice as much,
>I'll consider them.

The price of 3.5" MO drives has been coming down.  Also, if as you said,
your main interest is backups, the drive price is a bit less of an issue,
since the MO media price is significantly lower than for Syquest (or a
Bernoulli type).  Keep in mind also that physical frailty is only one
of the disadvantages - MO media have a longer data shelf life and aren't
prone to magnetic corruption.

>Maynard Handley


-- 

Dan S.
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LaCie hard drives
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:56:38 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <59234@mimsy.umd.edu> pugh@cs.umd.edu (Bill Pugh) writes:
>
>The LaCie sales representitives repeatedly lied to me about when my drive 
>would be shipped, and I found it nearly impossible to get ahold of anybody 
>to inquire about my order. I eventually canceled my order, figuring that I 
>didn't want a disk drive from such a company, since my odds of being able 
>to contact someone in case I had problems seemed near zero. It took threats
>of calling the Better Business Bureau to get them to call me back so that I
>could cancel my order.
>

LaCie used to be a very good company: nice product, good service, fast
delivery.  Well, not anymore.

My Cirrus 105MB HD was sick (not dead) with sticky problem lately (head
would not move on power up once in a while.).  I asked LaCie to take
care of it since it is still under 5 year warranty.  (I noticed now they
only offer 2-year warranty.)

They never respond to my inquiry.  Period.

Cancelling your order is a smart move, Bill.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: edwards@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Edwards)
Subject: Re: supra fax modem
Summary: done it, see it, been there
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:52:17 GMT

In article <mills.712202523@dialup.athena.lkg.dec.com>, mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills) writes:
> No there is NOTHING wrong with WinFAX. They had to "HACK" it up
> to work around the a HARDWARE problem !!!

Why there's somethin' wrong right there ain't there :-)

> So my conclusion is that for long distance (150 miles which is not that far)
> the supra cannot deal with it. For DATA the best it can do is
> 2400 with error correction. For FAX it can't do ANYthing yet in distance.
> 
> MY primary purpose it local 9600 data and I think it will be ok for that.
> But I did expect it to be able to better than 2400 at long distance at least
> sometimes. I also expected that it would do FAX at any distance at some
> speed.
> 
> Can a $300 modem do coast-to-coast DATA at 9600 or 4800
> Can a $300 modem do coast-to-coast FAX at 9600 or other speed.
> 
> Can the Supra do the above?
> Can a $700 modem do the above?
> Can any Modem do the above on non-conditioned lines?

I've made regular connections to both California and Florida from Ohio at
9600 baud --- no worrys mate. I'm using FAX stf 2.2.0 (supplied with the
modem which I purchased direct from Supra and WhiteKnight 11.12.

I'm very satisfied with the modem and think I got a great value for the
money I spent. JOME (just one man's experience)

edwards@andy.bgsu.edu

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century marketing corporation
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Difference between different Macintosh machines
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:16:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <D88-JWA.92Jul21112146@dront.nada.kth.se>, d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes...
>Mac IIci	- as IIsi, but faster, three NuBus slots, max memory
>		32 MB (maybe even more with 16 MB SIMMs, but that remains
>		to be seen) _FAST_ SCSI interface.

 The IIci is a 25Mhz 68030, built-in FPU.

>Quadra 700	- same case as IIci, 68040 CPU@25MHz, running like a
>		486-DX2@25MHz. Three slots, 20 MB memory max. FAST SCSI
>		and just about everything else. Built-in video that
>		handles at full expansion 24bpp@17" or 8bpp@21"

 Minor correction: the Quadra 700 has only two Nubus slots; however it does
 have built-in Ethernet, although I believe that requires a non-cheap
 transceiver.

Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
			  -or-	...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long   		
			  -or-	long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: John Lacey <johnl@spinner.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Monitor shakes
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 13:05:03 EST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

When I turned my Mac Plus on this morning, the monitor brightness
varied randomly (it still is).  This is the first time I have noticed
this, and I have been using the machine daily for about two years.

Any ideas?  I looked around for the obvious: magnetic or electrical
field interference.  Nothing untoward showed itself.

The image doesn't move around, only the brightness varies.  If I turn
the brightness down so the desktop is not visible, it will flash into
view every couple of seconds.

-- 
John Lacey        ``What's wrong with my style is not a lack of expressiveness
                    or lucidity, but vulgarity.''                --G. H. Hardy
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:13:47 -0400 
From: "Donpaul C. Stephens" <ds8k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Quadra 950 sound

Yes,

The Quadra has that wonderful sound at startup.  People have been trying
to use it on other macs for quite some time now too  :-)

Donpaul C. Stephens	/Deathbird/
"Basic research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing."
		- Wernher von Braun

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tswift@well.sf.ca.us (Theodore John Swift)
Subject: Re: Powerbook Prices, marketing (was Price Club,etc.)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:19:41 GMT


ogil@quads.uchicago.edu (Brian W. Ogilvie) wrote:
> The Campus Computer Store at the University of Chicago just dropped
> their price on the PowerBook 140 by about $450.  The old price for a
> 4/40 was $2,370; the new price is $1915, which is what they were
> selling the PB 100 (4/40 with external floppy) for a month ago.  I
> don't know how these prices compare with the non-academic pricing.

That seems pretty close to my company's supplier's price to it's "corporate
accounts: PB140 4/40 $1865.  The weird price inversion is that the
PB100 4/40 without floppy is still $1715; with floppy it's listed as $905.
These are the only PB100 configurations listed.  I interpret this as Apple
is no longer selling/shipping the 100 without the floppy.
  I guess what I'd like to know is what will happen to the price of the PB140
when the "next generation" of machines is unveiled a few months from now?
-- 
----------------------
Ted Swift tswift@well.sf.ca.us or, better yet, Ted_Swift@qm.sri.com
"You bally well are informed, Jeeves!  Do you know everything?"
"I don't know, sir"    ~P.G. Wodehouse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: flare@milton.u.washington.edu (Skath)
Subject: Monitors
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:43:26 GMT

Is there a way to connect a IBM monochrome monitor to a Mac IIx, IIcx, or IIci?

Also, is there a way to connect a standard composite sync TV monitor to these
  computers?

If so, please respond to Jordan Alexander at 543-8967 or e-mail to
  flare@milton.u.washington.edu

Thanx.

Jordan Alexander
Alex Yan
Dept. of Physics, UW

/es

A
A

-- 

Namarie!  May thy future ever be bright!!

-Thindae
From: peter_chen@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Peter M Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: ? about turn Apple Int. HD to Ext. HD
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:56:27 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

I tried to sweep the Internal Apple HD 40 (Quantum LPS 40) with a Quantum 
ProDriver 105. I connected the Quantum Pro 105 to the Macintosh LC motherboard 
and connected the Apple HD 40 to the External Case, I hooked up the power cable,
SCSI cable and the SCSI address switch. and set SCSI address to 5, when I 
tried to mount the Apple HD 40 as an external Driver, It refused to mount. If I 
restart when the External is on, and then restart the Mac, the Mac failed to 
start, it seems that two drivers have the same SCSI address. or say that Apple 
Internal HD's address is always set to 0, and the SCSI address setting jMP is 
disabled.

is anyone has any idea about it?


Peter M Chen

Peter_chen@cbis.ece.drexel.edu
From: craig.stodolenak@mixcom.mixcom.com (craig.stodolenak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE/30 Internal Greyscale
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:18:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Jul25.201853.3571
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

pwan@scott.skidmore.edu (peter wan) writes:

>tamone@uni2a.unige.ch writes:
>> To have grey-scale on a se/30 is there a need for a special external
>> monitor...

>Yes, and also the necessary video interface card.

>> ...or the built-in one can do it ?

>No. The on board video circuitry driving the 9 inch tube of the SE/30
>supports black/white only.

Actually, the video board from Micron (along with a special adaptor, also
from Micron) will allow use of the internal monitor for 8-bit greyscale.
This is the only hardware that I know of that will give you this
capability.

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From: strange@zk3.dec.com (Steve Strange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is the IIsi so slow?
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:22:42 GMT
	<1992Jul30.141541.6529@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <14760@umd5.umd.edu>
	<15a65qINN8mc@mohawk.cs.utexas.edu>
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.

In article <15a65qINN8mc@mohawk.cs.utexas.edu> newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) writes:

   Several people have said that the IIsi runs faster when its cache
   is set to a large value.  I have been told that this has something to
   do with the lack of video RAM in the IIsi-- the CPU and video compete
   for memory access.  If this is true, how does changing the RAM cache
   speed things up?  Is it not the case that all of the memory is on the
   same bus?  Also, RAM devoted to the cache is still in use, right?

Well, the IIsi runs at 20Mhz, and the SE/30 at 16Mhz.  So ideally, the
si is a little faster.  What makes it appear slower is the slower
screen updates.  The RAM devoted to the cache is still in use, but it
is being referenced far less than the RAM in which the system code
resides.  If I understand the architecture correctly, the cache RAM is
accessed only in situations where the disk would have been accessed
had the cache not been there.  And code is never executed directly out
of the cache -- instead, the needed data is copied out of the cache
and into memory somewhere else, in some sizeable chunk.  So it's a
matter of frequency of access.  The cache RAM is accessed far less
frequently than the RAM in which system code and data reside.  Hope
this helps.

BTW, if you put color on an SE/30, you necessarily need to buy a video
board.  If you buy a video board for the IIsi, the memory contention
problem goes away, as the screen buffer memory is on the board.  You'd
also get an FPU for the IIsi that way -- the SE/30 has one built in
(another reason that machine may seem faster).

	Steve
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