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From: faype@bcvms.bc.edu
Subject: *** PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS CROSS-CULTURAL SURVEY!!! ***
Organization: Boston College
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:09:34 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
From: mannan@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (D RIGHT 1)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Subject
Date: 3 Jan 93 07:20:07 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Failure of Socialism in Bangladesh??? What crap..since bangladesh 
became independent I have seen my father work in his own business
and seen many other prosper in Bangladesh!!! As far as I know even
the farmers in Bangladesh have owned their OWN lands for generations
(when they could)...so I don't understand where topics like "Failure
of socialism in Bangladesh come from" .. Bangladesh is a capitalistic
country this statement would be more appropiate if we could get rid
of the GHUSH KHOR ministers who suck on the poor peoples blood.    

I would do anything in my power to make Dhaka University a safer place.
But the Prime Minister of the country.. who is supposed to put the 
country above anything else can't dissolve her political partie's
branch at the University. Shame on her and  all the so called leaders
of the country. BNP and AWAMI LEAGUE are like two monarchies..the 
leaders of the parties inheriting power from their husband and father!
Both parties have people who are much better qualified than either 
Sheikh Hasina and Khaleda Zia to lead their respective parties!

I dont understand leaders..they even fight with each other on
BIJOY DIBOSH .. They should be ashamed of themselves.




A
  
-- 
I am Crazy!!
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From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SALA DEEPAK BANGALI BOSE KI L*** KI AISE TAISE
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 11:09:03 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


>OTHER DOG THAT DEEPAK BOSEADIKA BARKING AGAIN 
>APRIL FOOL BABY :-))))))))))  MERE G*** MEN DUM HAI.
>
>DEEPAK BOSE KI G*** MEN HAATI KA L*** :-)))))))
>SALA KUTTEY KI AULAD :))))))))))))
>
>HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
>
>MUSTAFA IBRAHIM 
>
>imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu

Another demonstration of Mustafa's rapier sharp wit.

Hassan
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From: gsalvad@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.nepal,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Peace Message From Sri Chinmoy
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:44:50 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

		NEW YEAR 1993 MESSAGE FROM SRI CHINMOY
                --------------------------------------

		God is dreaming.
		Newness singing.
		Oneness blossoming.
		Fullness dancing.

		Hope.
		No more gropes.
		Life without slopes.
		Splendid depths and heights.
		Transformed bondage-knife.

				-----SRI CHINMOY
					12/8/1992


		1993 Peace Song
		---------------
	
		A sea of oneness peace our hearts are now.
		Our Lord Supreme, we bow to you, we bow.
		We are breathing your Cosmos-Harmony-Song.
		Our transformed lives are your Vision Victory Gongs.




		ABOUT SRI CHINMOY
		-----------------

		Sri Chinmoy has dedicated his life for propagating world 
		peace. He spreads his message of peace through  meditation,
		peace concerts and creative manifestations such as paintings,
		poems, songs, spiritual writings and peace marathons and games.
		His students are spread all over the World. Sri Chinmoy
		conducts medidation classes at UN. 

  
Xref: sparky soc.culture.bangladesh:6924 soc.culture.indian:41546 soc.culture.pakistan:18568
From: mrahman@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Mushfiqur Rahman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam Preaching Equality
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:02:22 GMT
	<neep.724908927@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <neep.724908927@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au> neep@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au (Neep Hazarika) writes:


   >In article <1gqg4qINNmf9@bailey.cs.yale.edu>, ahmed%bailey@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes...
   >>..deleted
   >>-- Shakil


   >    Quranic laws were written for a society which was tribal and
   >    male dominant, and if we look at it in this prospective then it
   >    easy to understand why these laws are as they are. Indeed they
   >    were a step forward at that time.....

  and for that society. But when Islam spread beyond Arabia to societies where
  the status of women that Muhammed envisaged HAD been achieved, the 
  misinterpretation of the words of the Prophet by the nomadic crusaders (whose
  tribal base could not be expected to have had any philosophical foundations) 
  led to degradation of the social status of women. Thus, for instance, in Iran

  and India, where women were on a par with men, the advent of Islam dragged
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  them back to the medeival ages, which was definitely NOT what the Prophet
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 intended.

   Cheers,
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I will follow Naeem's startegy here. Now that you (Neep) have
enlighetned us of such a fact, you will surely provide oodles and
oodles of evidence to substantiate your argument.

Tushu

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   -- 
   Neep Hazarika
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
From: rairan@ecf.toronto.edu (RAI Ranjan)
Subject: Re: Victory Day / why India intervened in '71
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:51:20 GMT

In article <NAEEM.92Dec26121413@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
>   Is this the same Indian Army soldiers that shot dead at point blank (normally by
>   putting the bullet through the back of the head) the Sikhs who had either
>   given themselves up or were 'captured' by the Army during and after the
>   invasion of the Golden Temple in 1984?
>
>nm

Where the hell do you get *facts* from?  Gary Deol?

Read any respectable newspaper and it will tell you what transpired
during and after the attack on the Golden Temple.

-- 
Ranjan Rai                             <rairan@ecf.toronto.edu> 
Engineering Science 9T3                <rr@odin.control.toronto.edu> 
University of Toronto                    
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From: banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Victory Day / why India intervened in '71
Date: 22 Dec 1992 10:11:18 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec22.151737.18812@bnr.ca> uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:

>True, we would not have moved in Dec 71 had General Yahaha Khan not
>ordred is "Israeli" style pre-emptive strike of Northern Indian
>airbases. 

A minor correction to an otherwise excellent article. IAF airbases in 
Eastern India were hit as well most notably Kalaikunda, Tezpore and Chabua.
Also, Lt.General Jagjit Singh Aurora, who was the GOC in C, Eastern
Command indicated later that Indian intelligence had known of the
impending attack and aside from moving aircraft to safer locations or
underground hangers, had decided not to resist. This made Pakistan the
aggressor nation and provided India with a moral justication (if any was
needed) to go into BD.

Samit




Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: raza@franklin.ee.umr.edu (Md Ishfaqur Raza)
Subject: CNN-USA-BUET-debate
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:40:37 GMT
Reply-To: raza@ee.umr.edu (Md Ishfaqur Raza)
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: raza@ee.umr.edu


-------------------------------------------
Recently the EUCSU election of BUET was held ( 26 th November). 75% of the seats
went to BNP backed JCD. 

VP(vice president) was won by a JCD candidate.
GS(general secretary) was won NOT by a JCD candidate( sorry I do not know who won)


Interesting note: A debate was held amongst the candidates.
 		and the idea was adopted from the US pres. debate showdown, 
		courtsey of CNN. The debate was quite successful.



--------------------------------------------
Md IShfaqur Raza
UMR-BUET-Rolla
From: hossain@ee.rochester.edu (Razak Hossain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: WalMart and BD
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:11:10 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

NBC's primetime news show on Tuesday (Called "Network USA" I believe) did
a show on WalMart, and its claim of buying goods made in the USA. The 
network sent a TV crew to Bangladesh, where masquerading as a group of
Western Buyers, they went into some factories used by WalMart suppliers.
These factories where shown to use exclusively child labour. It seems it
is cheaper to use children than adults. The little girls were made to work
upto 18 hour shifts. They were locked in to the factories and not let out
till 12 o'clock at night in some instances. One of the young children mentioned
to a Bangladeshi social worker accompanying the mission that she wanted to
be rescued from her employers. It was an extremely painful program to see.

The CEO of WalMart when shown documentary evidence of what was happening
remarked that malnutrition often caused adults to appear younger than
they were in 3rd world countries. He also remarked that the cultural 
definition of what age constituted childhood differed across the world.

Best Wishes for the New Year.

Raza
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Trying
Date: 2 Jan 93 00:45:42 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.bangladesh

Just trying to find out, how this donkey Mustafa has become so intellegent
He now a days uses this service.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Subject: Soc.culture.religion.indian-subcontinent
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:47:07 GMT


mportant points:

1) Religion seems to be a very popular topic in SCB/SCI/and SCP. Most
of the staff is cross posted. People complain that they are not
interested in Religion. Though it remains a very important paart of
our culture and history. We can't really seperate it from our life. So
when we cannot avoid it, it is better to master it.

2) We don't really seem to understand each other properly. So some
one say from group A wants to speak in group B. This generally results
is a flame war saying keep your nose out of my group. This is a clear
indication that we need a comon platform to talk in.

3) In our country education system covers our eyes with colored paper.
They don't really teach us the truth. History taught in Bangladesh,
India or in Pakistan is quite different. Since we have a chance to
get this doubts cleared, it is the best opurtunity for it. Even for this
we need a united forum.

4) Unity is one thing that has been absent in this subcontinent. Each
group points at the other group. It may be true that Group B is at fault
now. That does not mean that we shall call them bastards. We should rather
see the history and try to understand why B has wronged. May be that this
action of B is due to ssme past bad action of A.

    This is a hipothetical case. Many real examples are there. So we
need a place that does not belong to any country/group/caste/color.
It should be a platform to learn, not Fight. The aim of that group
should be UNITY not the opposite.

Thus I request people to discuss the good and bad point of formming
the group called

     soc.culture.religion.Indian-subcontinent.
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



The last part of the name is open for discussion too.

I am very busy now. Can some one volunteer to take the necessory steps
in forming this group?

A friends coment in this context. I requested him of the good and bad
point in it. He replied :

It's a fairly good idea.  We don't need to list all topics right now.  All
it's matter that we understand the pupose of the forum - an honest
communication on various issues and the way we feel or think about those
issuse.  We agree to exchange views without imposing or hurting the other
party.  A respectful and educational exchange of views.


-- 
With regards
 
SUPRATIC GUPTA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.religion.indian-subcontinent
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:15:15 GMT

zaman@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (Khan Fakhruzzaman) writes:

>If you really want a nonbiased name, drop the word 'indian' 
>from it. Better say, soc.culture.religion.subcontinent.

NO NO ! Lets keep the name as


	SOC.CULTURE.RELIGION.BANGLADESH.SUBCONTINENT


	At least our friend , Fakhruzzaman , will be

	be satisfied .


>Subcontinent is the word well understood throughout the 
>world. Moreover, it will never hurt the feelings of anyone 
>(I hope) from the nations of subcontinent (eg. Nepal, Bhutan
>Sri Lanka, Maldwip.....)

>Regards
>Fakhruzzaman

	
	LET US ALSO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE "INDIAN OCEAN "

	TO LETS SAY

		PAK-BANGLADESH OCEAN

		OR

		SRI LANKA-MALDWIP  OCEAN

		OR

		NEPAL-BHUTAN OCEAN


		SO THAT IT DOESN'T HURT THE FEELINGS OF

		ANYONE, AS OBJECTED BY Mr. FAKHRUZZAMAN .

		HA HA HA HA !!!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Re: Lok Sabha source?(Re: Victory Day in Bangladesh (what about India?
	<1992Dec23.015943.8070@udel.edu> <1h8mt3INN27d@hsc.usc.edu>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:04:03 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

yIn article <1h8mt3INN27d@hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:

 
   In article <1992Dec23.015943.8070@udel.edu> kazi@oin.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:

   >I presume Samit is mis-identifying Tiger Sidduiqui [aka Bagha Siddiqui]
   >as a Shanti Bahini commander. 


   That is entirely possible. However, unless I am very much mistaken, a certain
   Bagha Siddiqui does liason with the Indian Army and the Chakmas. That much
   I know for certain from family members who are in the Army. 
-----
Samit,
Siddiqui isn't even a Chakma name. I suspect your information is wrong. AI
and Anti Slaveryy Society have no mention of such a leader. You see, that is
why i asked you to name a source.




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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Victory Day / why India intervened in '71
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:06:26 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <SAHMED.92Dec21142907@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:

>secondly
>disagrees with your earlier argument in your article that India
>probably didn't have the foresight to seek the dismemberment of
>Pakistan. It also doesn't go with your argument that the Indian
>engagement began only as a result of Pakistani attacks on Indian
>territory. 

Oh the conflict started for self preservation purposes all right...to stop
the flow of refugees and retaliate for the Pakistani attack. It ended
up giving you a truly independant country. Historical instances are few where
a country has lost lives and emerged victorious in a war only to hand over
the reigns of government to the native people and without even an agreement
that would guarantee goodwill in the future.

I am not saying this should not have been done. In fact that was the moral
and ethical thing to do and I am glad India acted in the way it did.
But other than  India, I doubt if any other nation would have acted in this
manner.

Samit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman)
Subject: Re: Re : alt.culture.bengali
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:04:02 GMT

[deleted]

>The voting results will be posted in alt.config, soc.culture.
>indian, soc.culture.pakistan and in any other newsgroups of
>relevence. The newsgroup CAN STILL be created even if the
>newsgroup fails to win support but I would not PUSH for it,
>if it fails the vote. And I hope, it will pass.

How many people in Pakistan speak Bengali, let alone LOVE Bengali language
and culture?  I am surprised to see that an alternative news group is being
proposed for Bengali language and culture, yet there is no mention of the
word Bangladesh (only country on the face this Earth where Bengali is the
state language and where 99% of its 114 million people speak Bengali) or
scb.  I hope it is an honest mistake on the part of the organizer (!) of
this news groups.  If it is not a mistake (I mean if the so organizer doesn't
want to admit that it was a mistake), I personally seriously hurt and will
have to think that it is indeed an ALTERNATIVE BENGALI language they are
talking about, which we the Bangladeshi or genuine Bengali speaking people
have nothing to do with.  As the above article (posted by the Organizer !)
made it clear, may be the organizer doesn't need any support anayway.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: haque@sunray.ece.clarkson.edu (Anisul Haque,,,)
Subject: Re: Victory Day in Bangladesh (what about I
Reply-To: haque@sunray.ece.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:41:20 GMT


In article 92Dec21120707@occs.cs.oberlin.edu, sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:

> Aside from the fact that India managed to sell some weapons (needless
> to say for a profit), I don't see how this would have anything to do
> with India at all. Unless India wants to go by the once popular theory
> that Mujib wanted to make Bangladesh into a state of India, in which
> case the death sentence was quite appropriate for treason.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mujib's killing wasn't the consequence of any death sentence!! Such arbitrary 
killings after some arbitrary and whimsical decisions by some isolated persons
are NEVER appropriate. Nothing justifies this action.

Regards,

Anisul Haque
Clarkson University

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: hassan@bcrka434.bnr.ca (Abu Hassan)
Subject: QUERY
Originator: hassan@bcrka434
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:33:29 GMT

A QUERY !!
++++++++++

I heard that Mrs. Jahanara Imam is currently in the USA
for her cancer treatment. If anybody knows her address/phone
in the states, please email me ASAP. Thanks in advance.

- Abu S. Mahmudul Hassan


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sources! (Re: Victory Day in Bangladesh (what about India?)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:30:02 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <NAEEM.92Dec21185331@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:

>>   1. 10,000 Indian soldiers were killed and more than twice that many injure
>----
>Source for this?

This was based on GOI estimates of casualties as presented to the Lok Sabha. I
happened to read media reports quoting those figures. 

In addition, three publications that had figures close to this amount were:

1. Inder Malhotra's  From Indus Valley to Indira Gandhi.

2. Piloo mody's " Zulfi my friend...my enemy".

3. "The tortured and the damned"  (can't remember the author !!) (Vikas Publ.,)


>   3.  Money spent on housing refugees, most of whom went onto become
>   de-facto Indian citizens. 
>----
>Source?

This is a hard one. You will have to visit the refugee camps in Dandakaryanya
and elsewhere to see for yourself why 21 years after the war ended, none of 
these people want to go back home and the GOI continues to support them 
while keeping the camps open, all at the cost of the Indian tax payer.
There are various reports presented to the Lok Sabha, mostly at budget time
each year which favor continuing to keep the camps going. 



>   2.  Tribal insurgencies in Assam, Tripura and Nagaland and complaints of
>   training camps within BD to train terrorists. Zia-ur-Rahaman acknowledges
>   presence of training camps but claims they are used to train Chakmas to
>   resist the onslaught from Bagha Siddique's Santi Bahini. However terrorists 
>			     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>----
>Sources for this name? 
>

Indian press reports quoting BD sources as saying that this group has been
armed and trained by RAW in order to create disturbances along the
Chittagong Hill Tracts. Ex-Army chief Lt.Gen.Sundarji admitted in
a guest column in India Today (couple of months ago) that India had
taken steps to ensure that a great amount of time and effort were spent by
the GOB in curbing insurgency along the CHT. This would by implication,
reduce BDeshi assisstance to terrorist groups in the Indian North East. 

Samit