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From: robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Post-It for OpenWindows
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:11:22 GMT
Reply-To: robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
Organization: Hydro-Quebec (IREQ)


I have been using XROLO for quite a while. It is a port from an
SunView version. I think i took it from ftp.uu.net


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 12:24:55 EDT
From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Subject: Re: In Search of a Better Scrolling List

> Does anybody out the know of any Openlook widgets (in XView or OLit,
> preferably XView) that can handle scrolling columns of data.  What I'm
> looking for is sort of like a scrolling list but more sophisticated.
> I want to be able to easily set up columns with centered titles, make
> the columns and/or rows different colors or fonts, select a row or a
> column, etc.  It would also be nice if it could handle large numbers
> (1000+) of rows without blowing up.  For my current application it
> only needs to be read-only (ie. it doesn't need to take keyboard
> input) but a read-write widget would be nice as well.

	All of the Xview pgmrs on Wall St want this kind of object too!

	The only thing that comes close is the Slingshots pkg.
	Slingshots has an Array_Tile xview object which you can put
	text/image items in each cell.  But it does not (implicitly)
	have the row/column selection that you mention.  Also, it might
	be very expensive to create 1000+ rows using slingshots.  You
	may have to simulate the scrolling by replacing the text in the
	array_tile from your own data structures when you pan around.

	Be forewarned that Xview scrollbars are very problematic when
	the thing that you're scrolling is not pixel-based.  You may
	have to use another mechanism to scroll the object (slider or
	some button images).

	Basically you have to build something on top of slingshots'
	array_tile.

	Frank G.

	It's ironic that there's a table object in the OPEN LOOK specs
	(addison-wesley), but no implementation in XVIEW, OLIT or TNT!

	There's a decent Xt-based matrix object floating around, it'd be
	nice if there was a similar Xview object.  Even Neuron Data's OIT 
	has a multi-column list object!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: pk@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Peter Klein)
Subject: OW3 and xmodmap
Reply-To: pk@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik III, RWTH Aachen, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 12:51:34 GMT

  Hello netlanders!

Under OW2, I used xmodmap to swap the control and caps lock key, exactly as described
in the xmodmap man page.
When we upgraded to OW3, this didn't work anymore. xmodmap changes the meaning of
the keys, but not the "hold down for on"- and "press once for on, twice for off"-
functionality. So you end up with a control lock and another shift key instead
of shift lock and control.

Any help?

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: horen@rs.com (Jonathan B. Horen)
Subject: Re: pageview
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:28:35 PDT

In article <9207281725.PN15264@LL.MIT.EDU> marshall@ll.mit.edu (Hunter Marshall) writes:
>In article <Bs42Ip.C92@newcastle.ac.uk> dph1kg@durham.ac.uk (Karl Glazebrook) writes:
>
>    Why is pageview so rubbish for multipage documents? Is there a cure?
>
>If you use dvips, there is an option called "structure page", that
>does something so that pageview can get a grip on reality.
>

Well, I don't know anything about dvips, but I do know that here at RSI we
display our software's online documentation via Sun's helpviewer (you know,
the PostScript-viewer that Sun uses for *its* 2nd-level help documentation).

helpviewer pages very fast, lets you use the Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys, and
you can resize the pages in increments of 1- or 10-percent.

j.horen@rs.com
Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3299 alt.soft-sys.tooltalk:34
From: rfm@urth.eng.sun.com (Richard McAllister)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.soft-sys.tooltalk
Subject: Re: ToolTalk example
Followup-To: alt.soft-sys.tooltalk
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:19:02
Organization: /home/cici/rfm/.organization
	<1992Jul28.132624.1758@ifi.unizh.ch>
NNTP-Posting-Host: urth
In-reply-to: sinkwitz@ifi.unizh.ch's message of 28 Jul 92 13:26:24 GMT

In article <ZANM03.92Jul25163103@calw0057.cal.amoco.com>, zanm03@cal.amoco.com (Anthony Mutiso) writes:
> I am looking for a tooltalk example to help me get started tooltalking...

In article <1992Jul28.132624.1758@ifi.unizh.ch> sinkwitz@ifi.unizh.ch (Rainer Sinkwitz) writes:
>   Look in $OPENWINHOME/share/src/tooltalk.

That's right, though all the examples in there are Xview based. If you'd like
to see some Xt based ones, ftp contrib/xhibition92-tooltalk-demo.tar.Z from
export.lcs.mit.edu.

This is the source from the tutorial given at Xhibition last month.  (One
slight caution. These are based on the X11R4 versions of xedit and xfontsel,
and were developed on Solaris 2.0.  If you have different versions of X11 or
a different OS, things might need a little tweaking.)

[I redirected followups to alt.soft-sys.tooltalk, if that's not valid
for you, sorry.]
--
Rich McAllister (rfm@eng.sun.com)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: exubern@exu.ericsson.se (Bernie Meier)
Subject: Re: Anybody out there use "filemgr"?
Reply-To: exubern@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, USA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:40:37 GMT

Fetch catcher.tar.Z from one of the archive sites.
(catcher is a "drag-and-drop" receiver engine that lets you setup
scripts to do certain things based on what you drop on it's icon)

Then have your users learn how to "drag" and "drop" from filemgr.
Let them drop the directory/file in question on the appropriate catcher
script icon, and Presto! things happen.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch (Nilo Segura)
Subject: olvwm
Reply-To: nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch
Organization: CERN. European Center for Nuclear Research
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:32:15 GMT

Hello.

 I 've been using olvwm for a long time, but  recently I have experienced something strange
with olvwm.  I do not know why but I recevied the message 

     olvwm :  Warning : failed to grab keyboard

The only method to get rid of this is to RESTART the window manager from the Utilities
menu.

 Has anyone suffered this problem before ?

  I'm running  olvwm 3.1 - openwindows 3.0 - SunOs 4.1.1

 Thank you.

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Database Support for Engineering.     *    phone  : 41 - 22 - 7674372
Accelerator Technology Division.      *
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From: ajk@gdwb.oz.au (Adrian Keats)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Input Queue Lock Broken
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:26:22 GMT

When running/debugging an xview application I am developing it
sometimes hangs with a message to the console:

	xview error: input queue lock broken

or something like that.

System: SunOs 4.1.2, OpenWindows 3, SPARC 2

I have looked at the man pages for xview and olwm and at O'Reilly
V7 (xview programming manual) and cannot find any reference to
this error.

Can someone tell me what this is please, and hopefully offer a
solution at the same time?

Thanks in anticipation,


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From: rickg@eng.sun.com (Richard M. "The Tankster" Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Xview popup problem
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:33:08
Organization: SunSoft, Inc.
Reply-To: rickg@eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: irondude
In-reply-to: brown@ftms.UUCP's message of 29 Jul 92 17:31:30 GMT


   From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
   Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
   Date: 29 Jul 92 17:31:30 GMT
   Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout


   I am encountering some difficulty working around one of the "features"
   of XView. Does anyone know how to get around the following?

   I create a popup window with its pushpin out. When ever a button is pressed,
   the popup *always* disappears, even if I explicitly set the XV_SHOW attribute
   for the frame to TRUE in the notify proc for the button, before the return
   to the Notifier. I even tried sticking in the following code before setting
   XV_SHOW, in the hope that executing the Notifier loop once might reset things,


as documented, set PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS to XV_ERROR in your button's
notify proc.  this tells the Panel not to dismiss the popup, as is
the default Open Look behavior.

<<tank

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*********************************************************************

	Richard M. "Tank" Goldstein		rickg@Eng.Sun.COM
	Window Developer Environment,
	SunSoft, Inc.

	SLACK is the free car wash that comes with a fill-up
	of "Bob."
			-Book of SubGenius

*********************************************************************
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Xview popup problem
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:31:30 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout


SunOS 4.1.1  OW2.0

The following question is from one of our software development team members.
Any and all help is appreciated.


I am encountering some difficulty working around one of the "features"
of XView. Does anyone know how to get around the following?

I create a popup window with its pushpin out. When ever a button is pressed,
the popup *always* disappears, even if I explicitly set the XV_SHOW attribute
for the frame to TRUE in the notify proc for the button, before the return
to the Notifier. I even tried sticking in the following code before setting
XV_SHOW, in the hope that executing the Notifier loop once might reset things,
but it still didn't work:

	notify_dispatch();
	XFlush( (Display *) xv_get( frame, XV_DISPLAY ) );


The reason I want to do this is that my popup creates a list of filenames
and directories to load (the directory names have a "/" at the end to
distinguish them). If the user selects a directory name from the scrolled
list and presses the Load button, I want the popup to then display the list 
of filenames and directories in the selected directory. The 
list of files is successfully built and displayed (I know this because I
can see this when I step through execution of the code with the debugger),
but when the return to the Notifier is done from the button notify proc, 
the popup always disappears if the pushpin was out. I also tried setting
the FRAME_CMD_PUSHPIN_IN attribute to TRUE before the return to the
Notifier but that still didn't work.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 17:33:47 EDT
From: bill@cosi.cosi.COM (Bill Michaelson)
Subject: Unsubscribe

How does one unsubscribe from this mailing list.  I've sent repeated
requests to owner-openlook, but it didn't help.
Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3222 comp.windows.x:14371
From: km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
Subject: PEX on OW3
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:03:20 GMT
Reply-To: km@mathcs.emory.edu
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

We just loaded Sun's OW3 PEX extension, and the first clients we tested
where the X11R5 demos beach_ball and auto_box.

beach_ball did run, although the ball was colored in various
combinations of orange and black. When we run the same client on the
Mit server, it looks like a beachball.

auto_box just crashes the OW3 server, though the same binary runs
correctly on the R5 server.

I was also a bit surprised that Sun's PEX didn't noticeably outperform
the MIT server, even on a GX. I would have thought it would have been
optimized enough to see a difference.

Is this consistant with others experience?

By the way, are there some other PEX demo clients around?

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From: aperez@caribe.prime.com (Arturo Perez x6739)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Assorted OLIT 3.0 questions
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:09:59 GMT

1) Is there a trick to creating an instance of a helpWidgetClass?
Every now and then I get a CreateWindow error from it, BadAlloc.

2) Anyone out there have a reliable SunView (or XView) to XImage
converter?  I got one but over a certain size of icon it does
unpalatable things to the icon.  Also, X Bitmap to XImage and
RasterFile to XImage would be good, too.


Thank you for your help! 


Arturo Perez
ComputerVision, a division of Prime
aperez@cvbnet.prime.com
Too much information, like a bullet through my brain -- The Police
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support)
Subject: Re: New topic for cwol FAQ - OW 3.0 and imake
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Summary: diffs
Organization: Sun Microsystems - JPL on-site Software Support
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 07:15:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.111457.14780@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>Would someone please write up a guaranteed method of getting imake to
>work with OW 3.0 (and OpenWindows installed as /usr/openwin as recommended
>or at least illustrated in the install docs)?  This is a question that I
>see on various Sun and X groups regularly.  I have ATTEMPTED to create my
>own templates, etc. but cannot get them to work properly.  Sigh.

Assuming you want to maintain an OpenWindows environment (i.e., if you run
"xmkmf" and then "make" and then "make install", you expect the final product
to get installed in $OPENWINHOME/bin et al.), here's a solution that should
also work for sources that expect X11 R5 (i.e., they have R5-ish Imakefiles).

Just cd to $OPENWINHOME and apply these simple patches:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** bin/xmkmf.orig	Wed Sep 18 07:02:02 1991
--- bin/xmkmf	Tue Aug  6 00:39:20 1991
***************
*** 30,34 ****
  
  elif [ -n "$OPENWINHOME" ]; then
! 	args="-DUseInstalled "$OPENWINHOME/lib/config
  
  else
--- 30,34 ----
  
  elif [ -n "$OPENWINHOME" ]; then
! 	args="-I$OPENWINHOME/lib/config -DUseInstalled -DXCOMM="/**/#" "$OPENWINHOME/lib/config
  
  else
*** lib/config/site.def.orig	Wed Sep 18 01:26:19 1991
--- lib/config/site.def	Tue Aug  6 00:44:37 1991
***************
*** 0 ****
--- 1,7 ----
+ #define BinDir $(OPENWINHOME)/bin
+ #define LibDir $(OPENWINHOME)/lib
+ #define IncRoot $(OPENWINHOME)/share/include
+ #define InstallNonExecFile(file,dest)					@@\
+ install:: file								@@\
+ 	$(INSTALL) -c $(INSTDATFLAGS) file dest
+ #define NullParameter
*** lib/config/sun.cf.orig	Wed Sep 18 01:26:19 1991
--- lib/config/sun.cf	Fri Dec 13 16:17:58 1991
***************
*** 6,12 ****
   */
  #define SunOSPlatform     YES		/* set to NO if not running SunOS */
! #define OSName            SunOS 4.0.3
  #define OSMajorVersion    4
! #define OSMinorVersion    0
  #define HasSaberC	  YES		/* for machines that have it */
  #define HasNdbm		  YES
--- 6,12 ----
   */
  #define SunOSPlatform     YES		/* set to NO if not running SunOS */
! #define OSName            SunOS 4.1.2
  #define OSMajorVersion    4
! #define OSMinorVersion    1
  #define HasSaberC	  YES		/* for machines that have it */
  #define HasNdbm		  YES
From: dominic@onions.natcorp (Dominic Dunlop)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: CPU-hogging {cmd|shell}tool windows under ol{v,}wm
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:45:22 GMT
Organization: British National Corpus, Oxford University, GB

I admit it.  I've been mucking about with various start-up files so as
to get things working nicely when I log in through the X display
manager, xdm, both on the console, and on random X terminals.  But
suddenly I encounter this wierd behaviour: any shelltool or cmdtool
started up out of .openwin-init, or the root menu, or as a child of a
shelltool or cmdtool started in one of these ways, tries to hog the
CPU: the cursor kind of glimmers, and the perfmeter needle hits the
end-stop.  (Actually, the tool and xnews between them hog the CPU
roughly equally whether or not the tool is iconified.)

HOWEVER, this only happens on the console (not at X terminals), and
does not happen if the shell- or cmdtool is the child of an xterm.
I'm using bash as a login shell, and it could be implicated; however,
it's cmdtool that's eating the cycles, not the subordinate shell that
it starts.  The only difference I can see in the environment of the
shell in a hogging window and the shell in a quiescent window is that
the former does not have LOGNAME defined.  But kicking off a cmdshell
from an xterm with LOGNAME specifically excised from the environment
does not produce a hogging window.

Restarting xdm (which results in the console X server being restarted)
doesn't help.

Has anybody got a clue as to what's going on?

Versions:	SunOS 4.1.1
		SPARCstation 2
		Open Windows 3.0 (including console server)
		olvwm 3.0 patchlevel 2 (gives same symptoms as olwm 3.0)
		bash 1.11.1 (yes, I know I'm a revision behind)

Me?  I suspect the window manager.  But that's just idle speculation.

-- 
Dominic Dunlop
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: How do I get workspace window to pop up automatically??
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:22:47 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle



Hellow,

How do I get workspace and programs menu windows to pop up when I run openwin,
or .xinitrc, or openwin-init?

Someon suggestted that I modify .Xdefaults to include *AutoRootMenu.X: ...
*AutoRootMenu.Y: ....
*AutoShowRootMenu: true

this does'nt work, I still have to click the mouse buttons to get these menus
to pop up.

How can I do this from a shell script??
thanx in advance,
thanx in advance,


sue@byron.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping)
Subject: XVTDL 3.0 Released
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: jipping@cs.hope.edu
Organization: Hope College
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:59:52 GMT

Release 3.0 of XVTDL, the XView ToDo List mananger, is now available
for anonymous FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu as /contrib/xvtdl-3.0.tar.Z.
The README file can be picked up from export.lcs.mit.edu as
/contrib/xvtdl-3.0-README

Thanks to all who responded to versions 2.x.  Version 3.0 has bugfixes
and new features:
   * a logging feature which allows the user to log her checked off
     items in a number of different ways.
   * a "List All" feature that allows the user to combine all lists
     into one psuedo-list -- which works like any other list (e.g., 
     one can check off items or print the combined list).
   * a button to iconify the tool and to write out the todo list
     database
   * a properties window that controls X resources and makes the tool
     user customizable.

See the CHANGES file for a list of changes from previous versions.

Thanks to those who have sent comments so far.  There is a list of
features (the file "TODO", in XVTDL format of course) that are being
planned for future releases.  I would again appreciate comments and
feedback on these (and any other comments you wish to make).

   -- Mike Jipping
      Hope College Department of Computer Science
      jipping@cs.hope.edu


Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: Can I change the color on my workspace/popup/term pane menu?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:12:33 GMT

Hello,
Does anybody know if it's possible to change the colors of my term pane, pop-up
and workspace menus? Right now it's the same color as my border color = grey.

(Also, can I change color on the buttons/and scrollbars, independently?)

I've tried something like
 *button*Background*Color: gold
 *menu*background: pink (just to test the colors)
 *scrollbar*Color: red

in .Xdefaults

---NADA, NICHTS, they all stay the color of my border=grey.        

Ideas?
thanx in advance,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: gast@quads.uchicago.edu (C. Gareth Gaston)
Subject: In Search of a Better Scrolling List
Reply-To: gast@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:45:56 GMT

Does anybody out the know of any Openlook widgets (in XView or OLit,
preferably XView) that can handle scrolling columns of data.  What I'm
looking for is sort of like a scrolling list but more sophisticated.
I want to be able to easily set up columns with centered titles, make
the columns and/or rows different colors or fonts, select a row or a
column, etc.  It would also be nice if it could handle large numbers
(1000+) of rows without blowing up.  For my current application it
only needs to be read-only (ie. it doesn't need to take keyboard
input) but a read-write widget would be nice as well.

I've looked at the Xtra Widget set and their spreadsheet widget might
be made to do what I want but since I've only seed their Motif demo
it's hard to say.  Does anyone have any experience with this package,
either positive or negative?

More generally, I'd be interested in a general purpose data entry
forms package for Openlook.  There seem to be boatloads of them for
the PC (Vermont Creative Software's "Windows for Data" comes to mind),
but I've never seen one for the Openlook environment.  A forms package
to my mind is something that does more than just display text widgets,
but actually maps the input back to my data structure and does
validation and formatting along the way.

I'd be interested in either public domain or comercial software.

Any information or pointers to information will be greatly
appreciated.

Send me Email and I'll summarize if need be.

Thanks much,

Gareth Gaston


-- 
C. Gareth Gaston
University of Chicago
gast@midway.uchicago.edu
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