HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
Newsgroups: uk.sources,uk.misc
Subject: SunOS 4.1.1 CD/Tape sought.
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:55:49 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: uk
Organization: Microware Systems (UK) Ltd., Winchester, UK.


We have a Sun-3/80 which has SunOS 4.0.3, and Sun say they no longer
have 4.1.1 available as an upgrade. The problem is, 4.1.2 is Sparc only,
and so is no good for our Sun-3.

Does anyone have a set of CDs or Tapes with SunOS 4.1.1 which they no
longer need, due to having upgraded, and would be willing to part with?
The CDs from a Sparc would be fine, as they also contain the Sun-3 files.

Please reply by Email stating price or other conditions.

Thanks in advance,

Tony.
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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Think of a number
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:18:26 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1993Jan7.123646.20720@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:

>In article <zlsiida.677@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>>How many Afro-Caribbean and Asian people live in Britain?
>>The population of Britain is around 60million.
>>What did you guess?
>>The true answer is:. 
>>2.54million
>>Apparently 'most' people guess around 10 or even 20 million.
>>It is believed that this may be an expression of racially based fear.

>I'd say it's more likely to be because most people in the media live
>in London or other large cities where there's a much higher proportion
>of non-white people, and so their reporting reflects the culture
>they see around them, rather than that of the country as a whole.
>This is bound to affect popular opinion.

Yes it was suggested that the racially based fear is largely the result of 
media hysteria.  Like the discrepancy between the likelihood of being mugged 
and the fear of it.  [nb in Manchester there were more white muggers than 
black in, I think, 1990; but it's hard to convince people of this without 
the police stats in your hand]
But I don't think the reporting is affected so much by the proportion of non-
whites in the areas where mediafolk live.  I think they do it deliberately 
to make sales-getting headlines.  Call me an old cynic if you like.

  No Trespassing: 4/17ths of a haiku.     D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk   fax 6040
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033  
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Hyphening 
Distribution: world
Organization: Current Drugs
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:59:24 +0000


In article <1993Jan11.095913.14097@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rf@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>was installed.  The fact that only last year (as I recall) were
>English patterns developed says more about UK users of TeX than it
>does about TeX itself.

No, it speaks volumes for the difficulty of porting and running patgen.

Not to mention getting hold of a large *good quality* (Dominic eventually
got access to the Oxford Hyphenation Dict) list of hyphenation points.

Graham
From: marcusj@apricot.co.uk (Marcus Jenkins)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Dial up Internet access wanted in West Midlands
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:45:05 GMT
Organization: Apricot Computers Limited

OK, in an ideal world somebody will reply with a number with the following
service:

Internet mail
Usenet
Established service that isn't likely to go up the spot next
week/month/year
V.32bis
Birmingham number
Seriously cheap!

Thanks in advance

Please mail me

 _ _ _
' ) ) )                         Internet: marcusj@apricot.co.uk
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/ ' (_(_/|_/ (_(__(_/_/_)_      If all else fails from US, try:  
Marcus Jenkins                  apricot!marcusj@relay.EU.net
Tel: +44 21 472 3002  Fax: +44 21 471 2935
Disclaimer:  Anything I wrote above is, of course, my own view and
             does not in any way represent my employer.
From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Oil spills - history
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:16:23 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

snail@lsl.co.uk wrote:
: In article <1993Jan6.104110.1601@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) writes:
: > Anybody remember the year of the Torrey Canyon disaster? Everybody interviewed
: > on News at Ten last night seemed to be too young to remember it, as they were
: > all claiming yesterday's accident was the first major oil spill on British
: > shores. But then we found we couldn't remember when the Torrey Canyon wreck
: > actually happened...

: Yes, I remember I student at CCAT in cambridge in '88 who was really keen on
: Vietnam history. He'd seen footage of the Torrey Canyon and was convinced
: Napalm was used on it, distintive flash he claimed...

they certainly used napalm to get rid of the giant spider at the
end of that seminal film "tarantula" !

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From: richm@CIS.Prime.COM (Richard Mutter)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Mornington Crescent rules anyone?
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: richm@CIS.Prime.COM
Organization: Computervision R&D Ltd

Please, if anyone does really know the rules, and if there are
any, could they post them to this group or Email them to me
as well. This game has always perplexed me, and everyone
seems very coy about it. Perhaps it's a case of the King's
invisible clothes, and people don't really know - well Damon?

Richard
From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk (Rob)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Oracle/Teletext on 3/4 (was Re: Video Plus)
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:17:22 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Computing Maths (COMMA), UWCC, Wales, UK

Steve daffy Hunt wrote...
-|                                                     .  Anyway does
-|anyone actually respond to the adverts on teletext (except with an
-|aggravated prod of the "wait for update" button?)

My dad spends about 30 minutes a day reading the Holiday ads.
He's booked about 7 holidays that were advertised. I've booked
twice. 

These ads are avoidable, unlike the annoying 0898 ads that
pop-up in the middle of something interesting.

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	I must decline your invitation owing to a subsequent engagement.
				 -Oscar Wilde.
From: Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Geraint Jones)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Hyphening
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:22:11 GMT
Organization: O'Brien's Hair Cutting Rooms, Stryd Dinbych, Llanrwst
Originator: geraint@clts1.comlab

Quoth ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig):
(  One hack mentioned recently that he'd been caught out once by writing
 ) something like:
(  
 )   Dr J. Smith, therapist, had just completed...
(  
 ) which came out as:
(  
 )   Dr. J. Smith, the-
(    rapist, had just...

Can you say ``Ur-ban leg-end''?
He me-ant ``the-rapists who pre-ached on wee-knights''.			g
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From: ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps)
Subject: Re: Unix Sys Admin C/London
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:26:11 GMT

malcolmr@westminster.ac.uk (Malcolm Ray) writes in uk.jobs:

>In article <3.605.uupcb@almac.co.uk> jim.johnstone@almac.co.uk (Jim Johnstone) writes:
>>Urgent contract vacancy 
>>
>>Unix System Admin - Analyst - System Manger
>>
>[stuff omitted]
>>
>>Preferred Age - 23-30

>Disgraceful.

You do have to allow for the fact that the call for mangers drops off
outside the Christmas period.

Ian (aged 42).
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From: maj@cl.cam.ac.uk (Martyn Johnson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Cable TV Picture Quality
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:54:36 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1993Jan7.175356.1332@unipalm.co.uk>, steve@unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow) writes:
|> I have just had Cambridge Cable installed on a two month trial. I have a
|> smaller screen TV and have not been very impressed with picture quality
|> either.

I've had Cambridge Cable for some months, and am reasonably happy
with the picture quality on a 14" Trinitron. But I have no aerial,
so I cannot make a direct comparison with the broadcast signal.
Teletext reception seems generally fine.

I'm talking here of the "main" channels. The non-local ITV channels
depend very much on the weather. Some other channels are pretty poor,
but I assume that this is just reflecting the quality of the feed CC
receives. Sound quality is variable too, with bad hum on some channels.
The most annoying channel for sound quality is the new "Performance"
channel, which is dedicated to Arts programmes - opera, classical
music etc.  This is rendered almost totally unusable by the terrible
sound quality - low level, hiss, hum, flutter - you name it...
Does anybody in the country get this channel with decent sound
quality?

One problem I had at first was a strange patterning on the screen
on BBC2. This turned out to be one of the connections not being tight
enough - despite the fact that the instruction book warns you to
leave them finger tight, when the engineer came and applied a
spanner, the effect went away. He told me that there are a variety
of similar effects caused by RF leaking where it shouldn't.

He also mentioned that they were having trouble with the signal level
at some points in the network. I suspect that it is inevitable that
there will be a few problems like this as the network evolves. I found
that they were very willing to investigate problems, so it would be
worth telling them if you think the quality is below par.

-- 
Martyn Johnson      maj@cl.cam.ac.uk
University of Cambridge Computer Lab
Cambridge UK
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From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Subject: Re: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:37:19 GMT

In article <30053@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
>Try doing the sums. You'll find that the amount of electricity needed
>by everyone's video and clock in standby mode might be enough to run a
>few houses, but very far from being able to run a village, let alone a
>city.

	My household averages 1200 watts.  Leicester contains roughly 0.5%
of the UK population, so my fair share of the stand-by electricity would
be around 6 watts.  A village of, say, 300 people, would need about 6
milliwatts from me.  I count two clocks, one video, a microwave display,
and around 6 "pilot lights" of various sorts on all the time.  Oh, and
*lots* of battery clocks and watches, which I assume we're not counting.
At work, lots of terminals, photocopiers, laserwriters, safety lights,
etc., are left switched on though idle, not to mention the computers
[which are at least doing *something* overnight].  The terminals at
least are warm enough to suggest that they consume more than a fraction
of a milliwatt!

>      How does such obvious nonsense gain such currency? I blame
>underfunding of the education system :-)

	So -- I'm underfunded!  Please educate me -- how much would
the above use?  Six watts does sound a little high, but not by the
factor of more than 1000 that you suggest.

-- 
Andy Walker, Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
Xref: sparky uk.misc:2543 rec.arts.tv.uk:7110
From: peter@spider.co.uk (Peter Reid)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Ariston music for TV Advert
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:34:37 GMT
	<TCHUA.93Jan8074921@soda.qmw.ac.uk>
	<JRG.93Jan8210015@oak50.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Distribution: uk
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

> In article <JRG.93Jan8210015@oak50.doc.ic.ac.uk> James Grinter writes:
>
>   It began with a boy thowing a ball through a window, then climbing in
>   to fetch the ball. Anyone else see this, or know what the film is
>   called?

The film was called "Tango".  It (as far as I remember) won an Oscar for
best animated film, some time in the eighties (maybe even earlier).  The
original was created entirely using animation techniques, combining film
sequences by hand and then refilming them, as opposed to the video editing
methods used in the Ariston adverts, so was (IMHO) much more impressive.

Pete
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From: mikef@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Mike Fourman)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.jobs,uk.politics
Subject: Yale Junior seeks summer placement
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:10:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

I am posting this for a relative studying at Yale. Apparently Yale will pay 
the costs of a visit to the UK for an undergraduate who can find an appropriate
(unpaid) post or project to work on.

Junior (3rd year Undergraduate) at Yale majoring in History and International 
Studies seeks a six to eight week post in Oxford or London May/June 93.

If you think you might be able to help please contact
Georgia Levenson 0101 212 666 6650

Or email me and I'll pass the message on.

Thanks.
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From: rspence@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Spence)
Subject: Re: Mornington Crescent rules anyone?   
Cc: rspence@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: rspence@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:22:00 +0000

The full text of the rules for Mornington Crescent are available by anonymous
FTP from ftp.nisc.sri.com in the /pub/games/mc area. Look for files called
rules.*

Access is restricted, of course.
--
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rspence@cix.compulink.co.uk
CompuServe: 100112,304
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Subject: Re: Testing page
Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:13:12 GMT

In article <1ifogvINN8o7@cardamom.compnews.co.uk> phil@compnews.co.uk writes:
>If you want to see what we are playing with, [...]

	I just wanted to say that this seems to me to be an excellent
example to be filed away for the future.  We have seen here (and over
on "rec.arts.tv.uk") comments on and criticisms of the new version of
teletext.  We get a response from someone who is technically knowledgeable,
and who is actually doing something about the problems.  *I* have learned
a lot about teletext, and I expect many other readers have, thanks to
Phil and others who have commented.  Meanwhile, Phil has received comments
and advice about things we like or don't like from us, including some
from other experts, and no doubt some of these comments will filter
through into actual developments of the system.

	Next time someone says "What use is all this stuff coming over
the ethernet", we'll be able to say, "Well, you see *this* on your TV
set?  It works as *so*, and I learned this from the bloke who actually
implemented it.  What's more, the reason why it's *this* and not *that*
is that a reader of uk.misc suggested something, and it was going to be
like *that* until some readers batted it around, and we realised that
*this* was better."  I hope Phil's company feels that Phil's time reading
"uk.misc" is being well spent!

	The Net at its best!

-- 
Andy Walker, Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: jim@edscom.demon.co.uk (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Cable TV quality
X-Disclaimer: #include <std/witty/disclaimer.h>
Reply-To: Jim Thomas <jthomas@edscom.demon.co.uk>
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:58:06 GMT

>>>>> On 21 Dec 92 13:56:40 GMT, jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk (Jonathan Haruni) said:

>> Does anyone who has installed cable TV know how the signal quality
>> compares to those from the conventional alternatives ?

I have Cable TV in Milton Keynes and we get BBC1, BBC2, Anglia, 
LWT/Carlton, Central, Channel Four and a range of cable stuff.

>> When watching a one of the usual UK TV stations, can you view
>> teletext ?  On all four channels ?  Do you get more or fewer errors
>> than with your aerial ?  Do you get NICAM via cable ?  Do you get
>> more or fewer sound dropouts ?

I get excellent teletext on all terestial channels with no errors
although there were a few on the first days of the new ITV teletext
service (and isn't that crap). The terestial channels all have 
NICAM stero which seems OK to me. I cannot compare teletext or NICAM
with the aerial equivalent because I have no aerial (not allowed in
Milton Keynes).

>> Same questions for satellites: do you get the same picture
>> quality/teletext reliability/sound quality/auxilliary sound channels
>> as you did with your dish ?

For cable channels I have a decoder box with which you select the
channel you want and it is then output to your TV on a specific
UHF channel. All cable channels with teletext work just  fine 
including the Italian channel RAI. Only 2 of the cable channels are
provided to me in stereo by the cable company and they do this by
supplying a NICAM signal (presumably they convert this from the
stereo feed from the satelite. The 2 channels are Sky Movies Plus 
and the Movie Channel. At one point they also did MTV but I think
they had a problem somewhere as after a few days we only had the
left channel and then they removed the NICAM altogether. Perhaps
they plan to do all the channels at some stage. They do broadcast
MTV on an FM radio channel.

>> When using the phone via cable, can you achieve the same data rates
>> via modem as you could with your BT line ?  More or fewer errors ?

Phone via the cable! You must be joking! Our cable channel is owned
by BT so I somehow doubt that this is high on their plans.



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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Drugs
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A772E02696010855@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 07:39:18 GMT
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:47:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.142137.23932@tadtec.uucp> Tim Steele,
tjfs@tadtec.co.uk writes:
>Two comments: firstly, given a choice of aspirin, paracetamol and 
>ibuprofen, which should you take for most common problems?  I take the 
>aspirin for colds, paracetamol for hangovers and ibuprofen for
headaches, 
>but I suspect this is entirely arbitrary.  Anyone know better?

I would (and do!) take Ibuprofen every time. Ibuprofen and aspirin are 
both non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs) which operate in the same 
way, by blocking the sysnthesis of compounds called prostaglandins.

Paracetamol intervenes in the same biochemical pathway as the other twq, 
but in a slightly different fashion.

Paracetamol is *FAR* more dangerous than either of the others: as few as 
6 standard paracetamol tablets can do you in. It causes liver damage, but 
the mechanism of damage is not well understood. A friend of mine works in 
the liver unit of the Royal Free, and they often see people (women 
especially) who have taken a few (about 10) or more tablets who appear to 
recover OK, but will just die about three days after ingesting the
tablets.
Women seem to be more susceptible to the damage caused by the 
paracetamol, BTW, not necessarily more likely to take an overdose.

From the preceding paragraph, it should be clear that paracetamol, which 
is regarded as a s"safe" drug is NOT. It should be locked away from 
children very carefully, and there is a feeling that tablets should 
contain an emetic, so that if you take too many, you will throw them 
right back up again.

 ===> James Petts <===

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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Think of a number
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:40:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <zlsiida.677@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

   How many Afro-Caribbean and Asian people live in Britain?

   The population of Britain is around 60million.

   What did you guess?
   The true answer is:. 
		      .
		      .
		      .
		      .
		      .
		      .
		      .
   2.54million
   Apparently 'most' people guess around 10 or even 20 million.

Weird - I'd have guessed far less than 2 million.  Maybe it's because
Scotland seems to be far more "white" for some reason.  Only in the last few
years have I seen many Afro-Caribbean/African people around Edinburgh, and
even then they seem to be very few and far between.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
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From: pete@smtl.demon.co.uk (Pete Phillips)
Subject: Re: New teletext franchise
Organization: Surgical Materials Testing Laboratory
Apparently-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:16:05 +0000

simpsong@dns0.bham.ac.uk (Glyn Simpson) writes:

>The Unix Guru (ndl@unix.brighton.ac.uk) wrote:
>> What are peoples opinions on the new teletext service providers ?

The BBC2 pages are so slow that I now just switch to ITV or C4.  In
particular, having the regional differences on BBC2 is
_discriminatory_ if you ask me (good ol' BBC - giving the crap to the
Scots & Welsh again - not that I've got a chip on my shoulder !).

Also, having some of the sports on BBC 2 only is going to give me
grief when the Formula 1 season starts - if the race is on BBC1, I
won't be able to monitor the race through teletext.

>I had just about got used to the old one! The new BBC style isnt as good as
>the old one - it seems that pages are everywhere with this now !

Agreed.

I think that, in general, teletext in the UK is only half as good as
it was a year ago.  Just my 2 cents worth.
-- 
Pete Phillips, Deputy Director, Surgical Materials Testing Lab, 
Bridgend General Hospital, Bridgend, S. Wales.
pete@smtl.demon.co.uk

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