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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: st:tng (critiques) vs dr.
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:57 EST

Hold on again.  An ATTEMPT to explain this (Yar's kid)?  The "attempt"
was a whole story!  The situation came about AS part of one of the
better ST:TNG stories, logically and believably.  THEN, many episodes
later, what happened to Yar in the past was revealed.

Advanced planning, yes.  Feeble?  no.
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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: bonnie langford reference
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:33:38 EST

 I watched "Bernard & the Genie" last night on A&E. Tell me if I heard
this quote correctly:

"These hotpants much me look like Bonnie Langford!"

:-)

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: stephane.boyer@p35.f290.n167.z1.hexacom.UUCP (stephane boyer)
Sender: FredMail@hexacom.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: what was ytv doing?!!
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:16:48 -0500

 > From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
 > Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
 > Message-ID: <1992Dec17.4153.15327@dosgate>
 > Date: 17 Dec 92 03:28:34 EST

 > PS: I now wish YTV would just cancel DW. It would spare grief and even
 >     maintain dignity to both themselves and DW.

wait a minute!, YTV is the ONLY station thats plays OLD Dr. Who in Montreal. I
have never seen those old episodes before! But i did find that the first
episode of " The Piramids of Mars " was pretty much screwed-up

 * Origin: "One Question: Do you want some TOAST ???" (1:167/290.35)
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From: timelord@wam.umd.edu (Lazarus Long)
Subject: McCoy Episodes???
Keywords: McCoy
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:26:00 GMT

My episode guide ends at episode #150 - "Dragonfire"
	
I would like to know if anyone out there has a list of episodes
after "Dragonfire".

Your help would be most appreciated...
From: vcz40@jester.usask.ca (Perry Testem)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Celery
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:58:32 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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I seem to remember reading an article about the vaunted sprig of celery.
It went something like:

	The sprig first appeared in Castrovalva.
	It was replaced in (I think) Enlightenment.
	It was last seen in Androzani, where it failed to revive Peri.
	
	BUT...Castrovalva didn't exist (the Master created it), and the 
	   setting for Enlightenment didn't exist (I'm not sure; I've
	   never seen it), SO...
	the celery never existed, so of course it couldn't help Peri.
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: celery???
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:39:45 EST

See The Caves of Androzani.  I forget the name, but he was allergic to
some gas...in its presence the celery would turn purple.  Then he'd eat
the celery.  Also, celery is a powerful restorative...like smelling
salts...to a Gallifreyan.
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From: prisoner@infopls.chi.il.us (Pat Mondi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: the sontaran accident
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 11:49:19 CST
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

|||| Susan Ann Welch mumbled to All dealing with "The Sontaran Accident" ||||
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 SAW> sawelch@ravel.udel.edu (Susan Ann Welch) Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
 SAW> Subject: the sontaran accident
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 SAW> Didnt Tom Baker break his collar bone during the filming of the
 SAW> sontaran experiment.  This might be the accident that people are
 SAW> refering to. 

 SAW> the future dr pseu

        Yes, Tom Baker did break his collar bone from tripping and
        falling off a cliff or something to that extent. That is
        the Accident that people are refering to.

                        -Pat Mondi

 (prisoner@infopls.chi.il.us)

... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at Susan" ... Zzzzzap!
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Subject: Re: Tavius versus Waiwright
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:14:32 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

In article <mXamVB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>When I tried to last intorduce this, it ended up as a botch turning out to be a
>philosophical argument, instead of a constructive argument,based on Doctor Who.
>Could we try to keep this relevant to DW as much as possible?  advTHANKSance.
>
>Tavius: Someone who represents a person true to his values.
>
>Rev. Wainwright: Someone who has lost faith whose life end in tragedy as a
>                 result of disbelief in his faith.  Even Sorin faith in a false
>                 hope saves him more the Wainwright's disbelief.  The reason I
>                 used false is that I am anti-dictatorial.
>
>What do you think?

Who and/or what is a Tavius?

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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: quotes list request
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:57 EST

In Robot, episode one, Harry Sullivan is trying to get the Doctor back
to the infirmary.  Harry says something like, "come now, I'm the
doctor," to which the Doctor makes his famous reply.
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Zoe
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:54:18 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <1992Dec15.151637.13047@bsu-ucs>, 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> 
>      Could anybody tell me where Zoe came from?  I know she started out in the
> "Fury from the Deep" series and stowed away in the TARDIS, but when and where
> was she from?  I get the impression she was supposed to be an android or
> something like that, and she was also supposed to be brilliant (I seem to
> remember that she passed some test in "The Krotons" with flying colors, even
> though her big line was always "But what does it all mean, Doctor?"); can
> somebody tell me more?  
> 
> E-mail is fine; or post if you like.
> 
> 
> Casey
> Eternally Curious


At the risk of upsetting Johnny Byrne for daring to know the answer to a
question, I will let you know what I've heard about Zoe.  :)

Zoe was the Librarian for "The Wheel in Space", a space station positioned
somewhere near Earth in the 21st century.  She helps Jamie and the Doctor
repel another attempted invasion by the Cybermen.
Zoe was highly intelligent and had a completely photographic memory.
For instance, she could remember with perfect clarity the names of the
resistance members in "The War Games" and even an entire map in "The Seeds
of Death."  
She does indeed stow away at the end of "The Wheel in Space," which
provided a neat segway into the UK's first-ever repeat of a full Who
story.  The Doctor decided to warn her about what she's letting herself
in for so he plays back "The Evil of the Daleks" on a mental image scanner
for her to see.  This is even referred to briefly in the next story,
"The Dominators."

Steven.K.Manfred


>  
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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto)
Subject: re:  Where to see the good Dcotor?re:  Where to see the good Dcotor?
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:29:05 GMT


>Help! I'm a Doctor Who fan, but the station that I usually watched it on
>got rid of it a few years ago. Does anybody know of a station in
>Connecticut or recievable (sp?) from CT that I can catch it on a a decent
>hour of the day? I miss Dr. Who!

I'm from Boston, but what I've been able to tell, is that the closest place
is New Hampshire, channel 11 I believe.  Some cable systems have it (my old
one did), but some don't (like my new piece of sh*t one), and therefore, 
there's a good chance that you'll have to suffer (like me)  :(

      Mystic
      (alex.soto@analog.com)

PS Sorry about the repeating title.
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: non-fan groups
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:45:00 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

"dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:

- Neal Crossman wrote:
- -------------------
-
- -> Try living outside the Toronto region for a while then you'll see
- -> how true their statements about DWIN really are.
-
-  Maybe you would like to list their statements in point form, as I am
- not aware of them all. In turn, I can pass on any concerns you and
- others my have of DWIN to the president. Address below.
-
- Regards,
- Dale Clayton
- -----------------------
- dale.clayton@canrem.com
-
- PS: I am not originally from the Toronto region.
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Gentlemen, I hope this does NOT become one of those Canda debate seen in
can.politics.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
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From: evans@ece.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: JO GRANT
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:47:01 GMT
Reply-To: evans@ece.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


I forget the name of the actress, but
does anyone have any recent info on what she
has been doing?
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: TO MYSTIC--SORRY!
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:32:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Apologies to regular readers of this newsgroup...I can't seem to send mail
to Alex "Mystic" Soto.  Hopefully we'll figure out the problem soon.

	Hi, Mystic; sorry about the delay.  I received your letters (even
though you apparently can't receive mine) and called the undergrad
admissions office about your friend.  They said they'd send her stuff, so
it's in their hands now.

	We just *might* meet and form that club you mentioned (hee hee).  If
you get over here anytime soon, my number is (716) 274-4238, and I live in
Drama Center.  I'm going home for Xmas on the 21st, and will return Jan. 18.

Drewcifer
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From: twr43417@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Trevor W. Ramsey)
Subject: The Twerpee Years: Avengers Rip-Off
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:48:35 GMT




 As a youngster, I was privileged to have seen all of the old "Avengers" 
 episodes starring Patrick McNee and Diana Rigg.  After several years, I 
 was introduced to Doctor Who, starting with Tom Baker.  Agter going through 
 all of his and Peter Davison's episodes, the PBS station began showing the
 Pertwee episodes.

 Interestingly enough, I began to notice several similarities between the two
 series.  (1) The male lead is played by an eccentric, always right, British   
 dandy.  (2) His assistant, though capable, is constantly looking sexy and
 showing a lot of leg.  (3) In both series, the team is working for an ultra-
 secret organisation of the British government.  (4) Threats are often domes-    tic, sometimes alien, and always fantastic.

 Actuallyitish sci-fi mag, Starburst, has had an article or two on the subject.
 There is a good reason to believe that Barry Letts, then producer of Doctor
 Who, was desperate to save the show, seeing as how its ratings seemed to 
 portend the end of the show with Twerpee's first season.  Seeing the smashing
 success of "The Avengers," not to mention the success of other spy shows like
 America's "The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and of course, the James Bond movies, he
 thought up the idea of U.N.I.T. (note any similarites to the United Network
 Command for Law and Enforcement, i.e. United Nations sanction, international
 status, similar acronyms?).  Also, it seems unlikely that so many similarities
 could exist between two British series around that same time period, one with
 a lot of success and the other seriously floundering.


   I might as well say that, although I enjoyed a few of the Twerpee stories,
   I was not a great fan of the Twerpee years.  Most of it was silly and trite,
   full of cliche', even for television sci-fi.  Twerpee himself was a little
   hard to swallow as the Doctor, which I have now, after actually meeting the
   man, attribute to his enormous arrogance and ego, one I daresay is only 
   rivaled by William Shatner (emphasis on "shat").  Mind you, he maintains
   this arrogance, despite the fact that he had to have his lines hidden all
   over the set because he couldn't be botherd to learn the script.

   Oh well, thus ends my critique of the Twerpee years.  Anyone who agrees,
   feel free to write in.  Drewcifer, though I know you won't agree, I'm
   sure you'll disrespect my wishes.

   "But I liked "Warriors of the Deep!!!"
   Trevor W. Ramsey
From: jpjackso@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (John Paul Jackson III)
Subject: Re: Where to see the good Doctor?
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:43:44 GMT

   Have you tried the Sci-Fi channel? Most cable systems handle it. 

Current shedule of Dr. Who on Sci-Fi is:
		Mon-Sat		11:00 CST (Central Standard Time)

  Yes, it is on satellite, don't know what transponeder & satellite though,
sorry :(

-Peace-
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From: xoanon@carina.unm.edu (timothy k istian soholt)
Subject: Re: Nightshade ending (MAJOR SPOILER)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:27:57 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

(Scott McLauchlan) writes:
>Re: Nightshade ending.

I've eliminated the spoiler, so there's no need to add the spoiler
protection Mr. McLauchlan forgot to add.

> I personally think all will be
>revealed in "Love and War".

It isn't. I think someone was a little bit overzealous about ed-
iting _Nightshade_.

-- Tim Soholt (xoanon@carina.unm.edu)
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Killjoys (WAS: Re: Opinions...)
Date: 19 Dec 92 10:56:45 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <105147@bu.edu>, mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
> -*- THIS IS A PUBLIC HAPPINESS ANNOUNCEMENT -*-
> 
> By Order of Helen A: All posters to r.a.dw claiming that
> the "Happiness Patrol" episode is among the 'worst' episodes
> of Dr. Who are hereby declared depressive manic-reactive
> killjoys.  As such, they may be routinely disappeared with
> impunity.  

Oh Happy Happy Joy Joy - I just love those routine disappearances!!!!

Happiness WILL prevail!

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

Still avoiding work.
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From: drwho@iastate.edu (Greg Bentley)
Subject: Re: Doctor's Names
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:03:16 GMT

In <BCR.92Dec11210937@hfl3sn02.cern.ch> bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) writes:

>So thats all I can think of.  Maybe if we can collect enough of these
>they should be added to the FAQ.  (Then again, maybe someone already has...)

>                               Bill
     Yes, someone has done that.  It is question 1.2.

         Greg Bentley                     drwho@iastate.edu

P.S.  It's posted there for a reason ya know.  :-) /2
From: hartnett@ocpt.ccur.com (Robert Sean Hartnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Zoe
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:57:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello
	Zoe Harriet's first episode wasn't "Fury from the Deep".
I think it was The Wheel in Space. I also do remember some information
that they were playing with the idea of making Zoe some sort of 
android but that idea was dropped for some reason. But she did keep
all that brain power. I belive the reason that she always had to
keep asking the Doctor what was going on was due to the fact
that she lacked experience in things.

Later
RuSH
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From: spp@buoy.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Subject: Re: Who movies           
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 04:00:43 GMT


Most of the Blockbuster Videos in Columbus didn't carry these when I lived there.
However, I remember there being a small family owned video store (can't
remember the name right now, damn it.. it's been two years since I've been in
Columbus) on Lane Ave in Upper Arlington that used to have them.  Also, 
Suncoast Video (check Eastland Mall, or Northland Mall, I think they both had
these places) used to carry and/or could order them.

Steve
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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Doctor's names
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <92350.105212PJCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> PJCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Philip J. Comins) writes:


>    Yes, my thanks to the posted directory based on the FAQ sheet. I think
>part of the problem here is that I read somewhere (I don't recall at the
>moment whether it was on the net or in DWM) that it was the MASTER who implied
>that the Valeyard was the Doctor in a future incarnation, and though the
>Valeyard didn't deny it, we KNOW that the Master has *always*been deceitful,
>especially where the Doctor is concerned. It is possible then that the
>Valeyard and the Doctor are in no way created. After all, if you found out that
>you were going to turn evil in the future, wouldn't you immediately do some-
>thing about itif you were a capable Time Lord?
>                                                      -- Philip J. Comins

Actually, I believe he was supposed to be "distilled" from the Doctor's dark
side from *between* the twelfth and thirteenth incarnations.  This implies
not that the Doctor will somehow eventually *become* the Valeyard, but that
the Valeyard was somehow *created* by an outside influence or force, or even
a powerful being.  To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be surprised if the
Black Guardian had figured he would never be able to destroy the Doctor, but
could instead *turn* him to evil by having the Valeyard take the Doctor's
future regenerations...thus the rest of the Doctor's lifespan would be
occupied by the Valeyard, and all the "Prof's" future good deeds would be
bad deeds.  So perhaps it was the BG who distilled the Valeyard!

I hope I didn't step on Steven Manfred's storyline there...

Drewcifer
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From: bfa1225@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Questions about Dr.Who/Voyagers
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:44:33 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University


  

     Could anyone tell me what episode it was where the Third Doctor and the
TARDIS slipped sideways in time and met evil versions of Liz Shaw and the
Brigadier?  Thanks.

  Also, though not having to do with Dr. Who specifically, does anyone remember
the show Voyagers? It used to be on channel 3 (I think) and featured a man and
a boy who flew through time using something called the Omni?  If anyone does,
what are the travellers' names?  Thanks again.
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 10 Dec 92 19:33:29 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


<sigh>
> 
>>>> 
>>>>    I realize that this is a way obvious question, but I couldn't find it in
>>>>the FAQ.  What is the good Doctor's trademark answer when people step inside
>>>>the TARDIS, the TARDIS being bigger on the inside then the outside.I have it
>>>>on the tip of my tounge, but I can't rememeber for the life of me what it is
>>>>called (The concept) some sort of temporal/spacial/whatever.  Help Please!
>>>> 
>>>> confusedly,
>>>>    
>>>> Greg Walter
>>>> walter@stolaf.edu <Dr. Egon Spengler>
>>>> 
>>  Hello Greg,
>> 	If i remember correctly it is called Transcendential Enginering.
>> 	"A key Time Lord discovery." as T.Baker's Doctor once describbed it.
>> 
>> 	Later
>> 	RuSH
> 
> Close...  The phrase is "Dimensionally Transcendental."
> 
>          Greg Bentley                 drwho@iastate.edu



What RuSH is referring to is the phrase "transdimensional engineering"
used by the Doctor in "The Robots of Death" when he explains to Leela
how the interior is large inside.  
Dimensionally transcendental is the term applied to the state of the
TARDIS' interios, whilst transdimensional engineering is making an
interior so.

Steven.K.Manfred


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