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From: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brad LaBroad)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: Pool Filter, Pump, and Water Heater
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:21:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.6298
Reply-To: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Followup-To: pdx.forsale
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Pokey Folk on Parade


POOL FILTER:	This is a stainless steel sand filter. The outside looks
		so-so and the gauge looks useless, but the inside is
   $50		very nice and the unit works just fine.


POOL PUMP:	Well, you could pump whatever you want, I guess. This is
		a one-third horsepower unit, electric, cannister filter
   $50		basket. It too works just fine and is quiet. Perfect for
		pool or hot tub.

SOLAR HEATER:	I have three bladders! Lucky me. You can be lucky too if
		you buy these nifty passive solar water heating
   $300		thingamabobs. Your pump (see above) pushes the water
		into these things so old Sol can heat it for you.
		Somebody told me these were worth $500 _each_ so you see
		what a deal this is. The price at left is for ALL THREE.
		I'll even get 'em down off my roof for you :-)


		I will entertain offers on any or all of these, so long
		as the offers are entertaining. Exotic motorcycles
		would be particularly well received.

		Brad
		 Hm: 671-9019
		 Wk: 627-5387


--
Bradlee T. LaBroad                             read & write & ride & juggle
 bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com                        It's a tough job but 
   GB_500 DoD#389                                somebody gets to do it.
Xref: sparky pdx.forsale:2109 pdx.general:936 or.forsale:1412 or.general:472
From: holly@verdix.com (Holly Isaak)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,pdx.general,or.forsale,or.general
Subject: Roommate Wanted
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:49:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.4574
Reply-To: holly@verdix.com (Holly Isaak)
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR

Non-smoker to share 1400 Sq. foot house  (3 bdrm, 1 1/2 bath, living 
room, family room, wood stove, outside deck)

Location:  185th and Baseline, Aloha
           Close to Sequent, Tektronix, Intel, OGI

On Bus line

$350 + Utilities

Call 690-1116 (days) or 645-5638 (evenings)
From: kenb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Recliner Chair
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:15:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: vice.10015
Reply-To: kenb@vice.ico.tek.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

Dark Brown Recliner chair for sale

Great condition.  No tears.  

Fully functional.

$100.00 obo

contact Ken Berger @ (503) 642-7211 home
		       "   627-1585 work
From: scottw@pogo.wv.tek.com (Scott Walsh)
Newsgroups: tek.forsale,pdx.forsale
Subject: '90 Dodge Daytona for sale
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:48:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pogo.13230
Reply-To: scottw@pogo.wv.tek.com
Followup-To: tek.forsale
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

Posted for a friend...


Opalescent Blue 1990 Dodge Daytona
Low miles, one owner, great condition.
Nice sound system.

Contact:

Eren   652-1536 (w) or 643-4056 (h)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,or.forsale,pnw.forsale,misc.forsale,tek.forsale
From: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque)
Subject: Sheepskin carseat covers
Reply-To: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque,,,,)
Organization: Pseudopolis Yard
Distribution: pnw
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:46:17 GMT


Two charcoal-gray carseat covers -- virtually new.

Several years ago, I'd bought these covers and had them on my carseats
for about a month.  However, I decided not to use them because I'm
fairly tall and they caused my head to brush the roof.  I put them
away, but would now like to sell them.

Originally, they were around $110 each, but I'm asking $80 each (or
b/o).

Contact me at the below e-mail address or (503) 641-6049.

---
Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
From: bobt@pogo.wv.tek.com (Bob Tidrick)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: Daycare
Keywords: daycare
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:30:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: pogo.13211
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.


                    WANTED          KIDS FOR DAYCARE.

Multnomah area.     Any Daytime Hours.      available after September 7,

Private Non Smoking Home.   References Available.

Call Loretta at 246-9253.

-- 
                                                Bob Tidrick
                                                GPID Engineering
                                                Tektronix Inc.
                                                Wilsonville OR.
From: Tim.De.Zwaan@p21.f319.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Tim De Zwaan)
Sender: postmaster@therose.pdx.com
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Microwave 4Sale.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:16:52 -0700

 > JCPenny family microwave for sale. Asking 60$

Which model number?  Wattage?  Accessories?
From: nabil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Aaron Nabil)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: 1megX9 SIMM 80ns RAM used $25/ea
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:45:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Jul27.104527.15125
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Explosive Space Modulators - R - Us

1megX9 SIMM 80ns RAM used $25/ea

call 644-2515

-- 
Aaron
nabil@cse.ogi.edu
From: adrianw@sequent.com (Adrian Witt)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: BEAVERTON HOUSE FOR SALE
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:38:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Jul22.203806.22294
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.



HOUSE FOR SALE IN N.W. BEAVERTON
--------------------------------

* 1900 SQ. FT.
* BUILT 1990
* 4 BEDROOMS
* 2.5 BATHS
* LARGE TWO CAR GARAGE
* HARDWOOD ENTRY 
* OAK CABINETS
* TILE COUNTER TOPS
* UPGRADED APPLIANCES
* MASONRY FIRE PLACE 
* FULLY LANDSCAPED AND FENCED
* FORCE AIR GAS FURNACE
* QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD
* MT. HOOD VIEW
* ASSUMABLE MORTGAGE

PRICE: $129,900

 
Please call 690 9325
From: nealn@sequent.com (Neal Nghia Huu Nguyen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Wanted automatic small reliable car....
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:50:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Jul21.165002.22410
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.


	My nephew is looking for a first car, I am seeking for him for a 
   small reliable car range from $ 800 to $1,500. If you have a car like
   this and would like to forsale, please let us know. 

       Hopefully we can pay for you better than trade-in in dealer.


      You can e-mail to me or call me at 578-5921, thanks.

							...... nealn
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: 1972 Dodge Coronet For Sale
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:12:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul24.161259.59
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


Have one 1972 Dodge Coronet for sell. Runs good. $450 obo. If interested,
please e-mail or call (206) 254-2156...

Dave
From: Tim.De.Zwaan@p21.f319.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Tim De Zwaan)
Sender: postmaster@therose.pdx.com
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Kitchen Appliances (and cabinets) for sale
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:35:59 -0700

 > JC Penney large microwave oven with electronic controls.

Do you know what the wattage is?  Would $50 be in the ball park?
From: mike@adpgate.UUCP ( ADP OPuS)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Bearcat Scanner for sale
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:25:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: outland.1469
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

following features:

		- 16 Channels
		- priority channel 1
		- channel scan delay
		- scan lockout
		- frequency range search
		- direct entry keypad
		- squelch

		Unit comes with carrying case and NiCad Batteries.
		Battery charger is included.

		Unit is in excellent physical and electronic condition
		and works perfectly.

		Asking $105...Call Mike (503) 294-4200 x2541
							 0r (206) 573-2844
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Macintosh Computer System for sale
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:09:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul23.150954.48
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I have an enhanced Macintosh Plus with the following:

       20Mhz 68030 CPU (faster than SE/30)
       4MB RAM
       INTERNAL FAN
       Fast SCSI card
       Full Page Display w/ Card
       80MB Hard Drive
       Keyboard/mouse/moniter/800k drive
       all cables, books, etc.
       Targus carry case
 
       Lots of commercial software (original packages)
       TONS of Shareware (all you want)


I will format disk and install whatever system version you want, either 7.0
or 6.0.7 and, if you are near me, will set up machine and throw in a coupel
of hours to help you learn how to use it if you want/need.

If interested, call (206) 254-2156  *AFTER 1pm* and ask for Dave

I am asking $2500.00 or best offer.

Dave
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,or.forsale,misc.forsale,tek.forsale
From: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque)
Subject: Old stereo yours for a song
Reply-To: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque,,,,)
Organization: Pseudopolis Yard
Distribution: pnw
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:37:02 GMT


I have an old stereo, vintage 1975, which I don't use anymore.  This is
a combination system--turntable, cassette, and tuner in one fairly
large package.  It's in very good condition and it's stored in the
original crate with the original styro packing.  It's made by Sony and
the turntable is by BSR, if I remember correctly.

I'm not sure what the current market is for this stuff, so I'll take
the best offer I get.

Contact me at the below e-mail address or at (503) 641-6049.

---
Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
From: yongyan@ese.ese.ogi.edu (Yongyan Wang)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Car forsale
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:27:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.40738
Distribution: or
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Department of Env. Science and Eng.

Car forsale

Ford Fairmont 82, 4 cylnder, 4dr, PS, AC, AM/FM
60k, new muffuler and DEQ, 4 one year old tires.
Super smooth and drive perfect. Clean in/out.
Reason to sell: can't keep two cars. 

Ask $1050.00/obo

Can be seen at Portland (Beavertion) 
Prefer replay by e-mail

Wang

503-629-8727(h) leave mesage
503-690-1145(o)


Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
From: gilamid@pdx003 (Gil Amid)
Subject: 88 TAURUS WGN For Sale/ Microwave for sale.
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Distribution: pdx
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:02:42 GMT



 1988 TAURUS L WGN for sail. 

 Its Blue !!

 3rd seat, Air Condition , Power steering , Tilt wheel.
 Power mirrors , AM/FM Casstete.
 
 84K miles - runs like new !


 Asking 6500$

 If you do not like/do not want the car, how about :
 JC penny large microwave  oven , electronic
 controls - asking 60$.

 Call Gil : Office : 696-4798
	    Home   : 629-4881


Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,pnw.forsale
From: dont@klic.rain.com (Don taylor)
Subject: IEEE&ACM books, 80xxx ic's forsale, various computer items wanted
Organization: KLIC
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:04:03 GMT

Subject: couple of 80287-10's $35 each delivered with test software.  These
are pulls, not new.  I have tested each one and they pass the diagnostic test.
I will ship them in an antistatic container by first class mail along with a
free disk containing the diagnostic test program.

Also have 8087-2 $35
Also have 386-33DX $85
Also have ~20 2764-3 eproms b.r.o. programmed once but never installed

Subject: IEEE&ACM publications &others
IEEE Tutorial on Advanced Microprocessors & High-Level Language Computer Arch.
IEEE Tutorial: Programming Language Design
IEEE Software Oriented Computer Architecture
IEEE Speech Analysis
ACM 87,88 OOPSLA proceedings (89 ought to be here somewhere too)

how about 1/3 of the IEEE price?
(have to find the IEEE catalog here somewhere, or check books in print)
(Powell's offered 1/5 the IEEE price)
(have a couple hundred pounds of other related texts)

Subject: Want Leading Edge XT motherboard, Dictionary on disk, Grammatik V, GPSS

Mom's Leading Edge died, want working replacement Leading Edge motherboard
   cheap.  (Leading Edges have a funny size&floppy controller/display/s/p
   built in).  It is either this or buy a sub-$100 386sx16 motherboard.
   But then I would have to explain why it went so much faster.

Looking for a dictionary, definitions, pronunciation, and all, on MSDOS disk.

Looking for a copy of Grammatik V, bundled with something and you don't need
   it, I will use it, on MSDOS disk.

Looking for a manual for GPSS, particularly for the Student GPSS/H Version 2.0
   but others might do, on MSDOS disk.

Looking for a 2400 baud v.42bis (in hardware)+9600 s/r fax modem.  The last
   2400 to buy but I can wait till spring before going to 9600.  Should be
   inexpensive.  Without the compression or without the fax they sell new for
   $59.  Willing to pay a premium over this for both features.

Subject: other misc

Mathcad 3.01 b.r.o.
Smalltalk V b.r.o.
Borland C++ 2.0 b.r.o.
Quinn Curtis Scientific Graphics Programming Library b.r.o.
Cranial white motorcycle helmet b.r.o.

Thanks
Don Taylor
503-235-6853
dont@klic.rain.com
qiclab!loop!dont
From: donh@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Don Hauge)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: 1988 Caravan Forsale
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:36:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekgen.1047
Followup-To: pdx.forsale
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

1988 Dodge Caravan

3.0l V6, automatic transmission, air conditioning, AM/FM/Cassette,
full gauges (including tachometer), power locks, deep-tinted glass, 
7-passenger cloth seats, roof rack.

Also includes running boards, fog lights, trailer hitch, 
4 studded snow tires (mounted on wheels), and fullsize spare tire.

One owner, well maintained, excellent condition.

Price reduced: $7995  (Well below Blue Book.)

Call evenings.  640-1958
-- 
Don Hauge
From: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brad LaBroad)
Newsgroups: tek.forsale,pdx.forsale
Subject: Jazz Festival Tickets
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:13:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.6276
Reply-To: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Followup-To: tek.forsale
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Pokey Folk on Parade



			MT HOOD FESTIVAL OF JAZZ

			Enjoy two days of Jazz and
			people-watching with these
			"B" section tickets.

			4 ea. Saturday August 1
			4 ea. Sunday August 2

			If you buy all 8, a ticket
			good for free parking in the
			preferred South lot will be
			included.

			Tickets $39 each. Will split
			into pairs only. All seats
			are adjacent (one aisle seat).

			Brad
			 wk: 627-5387
			 hm: 671-9019


--
Bradlee T. LaBroad                             read & write & ride & juggle
 bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com                        It's a tough job but 
   GB_500 DoD#389                                somebody gets to do it.
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
From: lschultz@pdx255 (Leonard Schultz)
Subject: Waterbed wanted
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Distribution: pdx
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:44:25 GMT


I am looking for a queen or king waveless waterbed with low miles.

Anyone have anything they are willing to part with?

I am also interested in other miscellaneous pieces of furniture...

Len Schultz
Home: 579-1017
Work: 696-8043
From: Tim.De.Zwaan@p21.f319.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Tim De Zwaan)
Sender: postmaster@therose.pdx.com
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Amiga 500 System & Accessories
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:56:07 -0700

[This message was entered by a friend.  Please reply to John - Not Tim]

I am leaving town this Sunday. Moving to San Diego..and don't have any room for

it. I have 1 Amiga 500p system. 1 Amiga 1011 external disk drive.1 rf converter
  
1 1084-s color stereo monitor. Wico joysticks, gold cables, Amiga Vision,
Centurion, A-10 tank killer, all manuals, paperwork and registration cards.
misc. other things for the amiga included.

WILL SELL FOR $650.00 o.b.o. call John at 242-1220 anytime ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT!!
it's July 22nd now, I leave town on Sunday, or at the latest Monday morning.
Everthing is a little over a year old. can do Pal programs with Pal boot disk.

Also have a REALISIS VGA COLOR MONITOR MINT CONDITION low dot pitch for $130.00

firm..was used on standard resolution extremely sharp picture..call 242-1220 for

John anytime..SooooN....
From: davem@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com (Dave Miller)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Antique Furniture Wanted
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:04:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: hp-vcd.62310006
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Vancouver, WA, USA

Wanted:

Antique cabinet or
        cupboard or
        hutch or
        sideboard or
        wardrobe or
        armoire 
that has doors covering a space at least 13" deep, and as wide and/or tall as 
possible.  To be used for storing a lot of small boxes that are 2" x 2" x 13":


             ........................
           .                     .  .
        ........................    .
        .          .           .    .
        .          .           .    .
        .          .           .    .
        .         (.(          .    .
        .          .           .    .
        .          .           .    . ____
        .          .           . .    13" min
        ........................  ____

The total space covered by doors should be at least 12 square feet (for example
3' x 4', or two 2' x 3' spaces, etc.).

Preferences:

	- Original finish (varnish/lacquer, most scratches/dings ok)
	- Locks in the doors
	- Darker wood/finish
	- Less than $300

Send email or give me a call.

Dave Miller					davem@vcd.hp.com
CIM Engineering					davem%vcd.hp.com@hplabs.hp.com
Hewlett Packard, Vancouver Division		206-944-2957
From: muecke@tequila.ni.sub.org (Wolfgang Muecke)
Newsgroups: de.etc.misc
Subject: S: Infos ueber AMSTRAD-Sat-Receiver
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:36:19 GMT
Reply-To: wolfgang.muecke@hs-nienburg.nsn.ni.schule.de
Organization: Tequila BBS, Stolzenau, Germany

Hello world!

Kennt sich Jemand mit den Sateliten-Receivern fuer Astra von Amstrad aus?
Genauer wuerden mich die Technischen Daten und die Funktionen von folgenden
Receivern interessieren. Ihr koennt einfach folgende Liste ausfuellen:

AMSTRAD Sat-Receiver SRX 300
  Anzahl der Video-Kanaele....:
  Anzahl der Audio-Subcarrier.:
  Davon in Stereo.............:
  Anzahl der Scartbuchsen (AV):
  On Screen Display?..........:
  VCR-Timer?..................:
  Sonstige Features...........:
  Rauscht der Ton beim umschalten der Sender?

AMSTRAD Sat-Receiver SRX 320
  Anzahl der Video-Kanaele....:
  Anzahl der Audio-Subcarrier.:
  Davon in Stereo.............:
  Anzahl der Scartbuchsen (AV):
  On Screen Display?..........:
  VCR-Timer?..................:
  Sonstige Features...........:
  Rauscht der Ton beim umschalten der Sender?

Ausserdem wuerde mich interessieren wieviele Audio-Subcarrier ueberhaupt
unter einem Astra-Videokanal liegen koennen? Frequenzen? Welche stellen
einen Stereokanal dar? Welche sind solo (Mono)? Wieviele Audio-Subcarrier
sind also sinnvoll? 6 Sind zu wenig. Reichen 10? Oder sollten es wenn
moeglich 39 sein (Ich glaube der SRX 300 hat soviele)?
Gibt es sowas wie eine deutsche AMSTRAD Filliale, wo man sich Infos
(evtl. auch Prospekte) ueber diese Receiver usw. holen kann?
Ist der SRX 320 das Nachfolgemodell des SRX 300 ???
Sind AMSTRAD-Sat Receiver und Schuesseln zu empfehlen, oder eher nicht?

Schoenen Dank fuer die Infos im Voraus!

--- Muecke

       InterNet:  Wolfgang.Muecke@HS-Nienburg.nsn.ni.schule.de
 *  Ich liebe Frauenbewegungen, aber rhythmisch muessen sie sein!  *
From: steets@fifi.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (??? Steets)
Newsgroups: de.etc.misc
Subject: Re: Porto bei Antwortkarten
Date: 23 Jul 1992 08:54:49 GMT
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fifi

In article <1992Jul23.071019.2638@quando.quantum.de>, steimann@quando.quantum.de (Ulrich Steimann) writes:
|> In article <iR14NB6w165w@moskito.ni.sub.org> Helge.Kosuch@HS-Nienburg.nsn.ni.schule.de (Helge Kosuch) writes:
|> >steimann@quando.quantum.de (Ulrich Steimann) writes:
|> >
|> >> In article <1992Jun30.094935.17196@infoac.rmi.de> rmohr@infoac.rmi.de (Rupert
|> >> >Uebrigens: "anstandslos angenommen" sagt nix. Die nehmen alles...
|> >>
|> >> Und sie transportieren auch alles. Ein paar Bekannte im Berliner Raum
|> >      ^^^
|> >> machen sich einen Spass draus, falsch frankierte Briefe zu
|> >> verschicken. Da kleben dann mal Rabattmarken oder ausgeschnittene
|
|> Wir haben uns letztes Jahr in Berlin die zentrale Postverteilstelle
|> angesehen.  Dort wurden die Briefe einfach nur maschinell sortiert
|> und gestempelt.  Auf eine Frage hin, ob auch die Marken ueberprueft
|> wuerden, gab es die Antwort: "Nein, das wuerde zu lange aufhalten.
|> Dafuer sind die Zusteller verantwortlich."  DAraufhin ging ein
|> grinsendes Wissen ueber die Gesichter einiger Berliner.
|> Abends zeigten sie uns dann eine grosse Kiste mit mehreren hundert
|> falsch frankierten Brifen, von denen sie nur bei ein paar Nachporto
|> bezahlen mussten.
|> Aber das klappt leider nicht bei allen Zustellern. Einige passen
|> wirklich auf.  Haben wohl nicht genug zu tun oder so.
|> >

Das hat weniger was mit Zeit zu tun, sondern mit Dienstvorschriften. Zusteller
sind angehalten, nicht frankierte Briefe auszusortieren. Und heutzutage kann man
auch als PostBEAMTER ganz zuegig seinen Job verlieren, wenn man seinen Job da zu
laessig nimmt. Die Post macht so viel Miese im gelben Bereich, dass man sich 
nicht um "ueberfluessige" Beamte reisst...
	
mfg Michael
-- 

Michael Steets          e-mail : steets@ls4.informatik.uni-dortmund.de					
Informatik IV
University of Dortmund
D-4600 Dortmund
Germany
From: lugeon@lsesun3.epfl.ch (Jean-Claude LUGEON)
Newsgroups: de.etc.misc
Subject: wanted aupair girl
Keywords: aupair girl, job
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:40:05 GMT
Organization: Laboratoire de Systemes d'Exploitation - E P F Lausanne, Switzerland


	URGENT ... 


	Wanted aupair girl for 3 children (girl 5, twin boys 4), driving 
	licence needed. 

		
	Please contact Mrs Kimber ++41-21.824.10.36
		       CH-1184 Luins (Switzerland)
From: wiljo@freeside.ki.open.de (Wiljo Heinen)
Newsgroups: de.etc.misc
Subject: Re: Mini Disc bespielbar ???
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:56:26 GMT
Organization: OPeN - The Digital Advantage

seekamp@valentin.fmi.uni-passau.de (Holger Seekamp) writes:

>In article <S2N4DCD@obh.in-berlin.de>, ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller) writes:
>> bei dem man dann nicht ewig nur auf Sony angewiesen ist? Ganz
>> besonders toll waere natuerlich ein Geraet, das sowohl Audio- als
>> auch Computereinsatz ermoeglicht.
>> 
>Da die Mini-Discs mit Audio-Kompression arbeiten, d.h. einige Daten ein wenig
>(angeblich unhoerbar) verandert werden, (wie sollte auch sonst auf eine Scheibe
>kleiner als eine normale CD nochg mehr 'raufpassen), duerfte sie als Computer-
>Medium nix taugen.

1) Audio-Kompression hat nicht (unbeding) was mit "Daten"-Kompression zu tun.
   Die Kompression erfolgt bei der _Wandlung_ des Audio-Signals in Daten
   (z.B. nichtlineares PCM [wie beim S-DAT], heisst im wesentlichen, dass
    bei lauten Stellen die leisen Toene verschluckt werden ; DPCM heisst im
    wesentlichen, dass nur Differenzsignale abgespeichert werden ; ADPCM
    (Adaptive PCM) hier werden auch noch die Differenzen skaliert. Z.B. schafft
    ADPCM bei Telefonqualitaet (3kHz Bandbreite) 1 sekunde in 3 kBIT 
    abzuspeichern)
   Natuerlich koennen Daten, die (nach der Wandlung anfallend) auf der
   Disc  gespeichert werden, spaeter _unverfaelscht_ wieder gelesen werden.
   (z.b. hab' ich hier ein Voice-Board, dass Audio-Daten mit ADPCM veraendert,
    abgespeichert werden sie auf meiner Festplatte. Dennoch kann mein Rechner
    die Festplatte immer noch zur "normalen" Datenspeicherung benutzen).

2.) Ist die CD-Technologie irgendwann Ende der siebziger Jahre definiert 
    worden. Mit modernerer Technologie (insb. im Bereich der Laser) waere man
    durchaus in der Lage, auf "normale" CDs mehr draufzupacken. (btw.
    "normale CDs" benutzen lineares PCM).


gruss
	Wiljo
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