From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Keywords: Just a harmless little old survey...
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:27:44 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <1992Jul30.222514.20964@reed.edu> eparish@reed.edu (Elizabeth Cameron Parish) writes:
>	(hameless plea for hugs:  somebody congratulate me!  I just 
>	fshed my marine bio final!)

Fished?  :)  Anyway, HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG - it's always good to see another
bi biologist (even if I am defrocked, and spend my days worrying about
user interfaces, I was once a micro & virol student).

>In article <1992Jul30.180654.21179@menudo.uh.edu> cullen@tree.egr.uh.edu (Caleb Cullen) writes:
>>That intrigues me.  (My experience is limited by the number of other bi's  
>>I know.  I need more experience so I won't seem so naive (I wonder why  
>>that is :>))
>	(On the other hand, maybe if you look _really_ naive you will
>induce a flood of deflowers-of-innocents....ye gods, they're already
>lining up to deflower you, aren't they?  *grin*  )

Oh, surely you don't mean me? [looks sweet and entirely non-dangerous]  Just
cos I followed up to Caleb's article doesn't mean that I'd like to
tie him to my IRIS, razor his trousers and shirt off, cover him in
ginger-scented almond oil and ...  Oh, dear me, no... not a bit of it...
honest... [collapses in giggles and hides under desk]

>>It also leads me to beg the survey: How many of you who consider yourself  
>>bisexuals would say you're 4 or higher on the Kinsey scale, and howmany  
>>would claim to be 3 or lower?  Some say 1&2's are het's, 4&5's (&>) are  
>>homosexuals, and what but 3 is left over for bi's?  I know I'm not a 3.

I'd have said that 2-5 inclusive was bisexual enough, if you go by the
Kinsey scale.  But mebbe it's time to stop defining us in terms of Kinsey
ratings: have any of you seen the Klein grid?  It seems much more reasonable
and more about people than sex... perhaps Dave Berry will repost it - I
think that it was he who did, some months back.

>	I always thought that the Kinsey scale went from 0 to 6, but
>I might be wrong.  Anyway,I fluctuate from 1 (or, if it goes from 1 to 6, 2)
>to 5.5; I've been somewhere under 3 lately, but my Kinsey rating is
>rising.  (I base it on the gender of people who turn my head.)  Just a
>free-wheeling bi-cyclist, that's me.  If you do a weighted average of
>the last couple of years, I think I wind up as about a 2.7.

Hmmmmm... a Kinsey e for a Kinsey pi, mmmmm?

>	But, you know, I wouldn't call 1-2 Kinsey people het, esp. not in this
>homophobic world.  Even when my Kinsey rating hits bottom, I still feel 
>pretty darn bi; and I know a couple of low-Kinsey-number people who
>identify as bi or as 'non-heterosexual, non-gay, sorta-bi, but mostly just
>none-of-the-above'. 

Yep.  I'm bisexual regardless of what (or who) I'm doing at any time.  Even
though right now (and, I hope, for a very long time to come) I'm so
astonishingly in love with my darling Justin, and thus am likely to be
effectively a Kinsey 6... I'm still *really* a Kinsey pi.

>	And anyway, why decide what you're going to call yourself based on
>how other people think the Kinsey scale maps to group affiliation?  Anybody
>who wants to call himself/herself bi IS bi, as far as I'm concerned, but
>I know other people feel differently.  *sigh*

I'd agree with you, Cam.  I don't disagree with these other people, but
I call me the way I feel me.

		mad, bad, and looking for the massage oil
		Kay
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