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From: p.e.morris@larc.nasa.gov (Philip Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: SONG OF THE SOUTH
Date: 12 Jan 1993 12:53:48 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
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Reply-To: p.e.morris@larc.nasa.gov (Philip Morris)
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>Song of the South is Available however on Laser Disc as a Japanese
>Import. Ken Cranes in Westminster, CA has copies of them as do other
>Laser Disc Stores that deal with Imports.
 
I have a copy of this.  It is quite funny listening to a Japanese Uncle 
Remus.  The have english on the right channel and Japanese on the left.  Also 
Subtitles come up during songs.  It's loads of fun.
-=Philip=-

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    |\    /|                /  \  |  | (  ) |  |  /  \
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    | /  \ |              /   NASA   |   .  |  NASA    \
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   p.e.morris@larc.nasa.gov  \/       \/  \/       \/
   "Do invisible cats drink evaporated milk"
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Tuesday, 5 Jan 1993 11:57:26 EST
From: Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Resorts


In article <1i9ue2INNnnd@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM>,
michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop ) says:

>  [paraphrase:  the writer's family (?) usually go to the Florida Disney
>  parks around Presidents' Birthday week time, which is often a time
>  when East Coast schools are having their spring breaks and sometimes        e
>  this can be a really busy time for the parks and all >

I have heard that many universities are organizing spring break trips
for students to work in cooperation with Habitat for Humanity and other
groups to create a volunteer spring-break labor force to help rebuild
areas in South Florida that were wiped out by Hurricane Andrew.
(how many prepositional phrases can YOU get in one sentence?.....)

I have no idea what impact this will have on Disney traffic, of course.
But if anyone was thinking of coming to the Orlando area (or the Florida
beaches) at that time and you were wondering how your plans would be
affected by spring breakers, keep your ears open for more news on
this alternative spring break effort.

I hope it goes well.  We sure need the help down there.

Laura Kittleson
laura@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
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From: swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: New Disney Poster!!!
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:27:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.130312.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> 
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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: BatB question
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:47:00 GMT
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Peter Joseph Rioux (riouxp@rs6425.ecs.rpi.edu) wrote:
: so, can somebody tell me.. has anybody read the 1st edition of the b+b
: comic book... in there, it says that time flows differently when you are 
: under a magic spell...


: squid
: (having fun under the sea...:)

Ignore my last post... I figgered it out...  Time flows normally 
for the beast, but since the servants were under a different spell,
they don't age?  (i.e. time goes differently based on the spell?)

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Remember to always be a visionary, or someone will do it for you and beat you.

The best Disney girl?  Definitely Belle (BatB)

I hate hicks and farmer boys. I hate everything they stand for, especially the
part about putting food on my table. I can do without the food. I wish all
farmers would just die. I can live off of lawn clippings.  -- Dave Tiberio
From: jcichock@ep.ieee.org (J Cichocki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Which videos are out of print?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:48:17 GMT
Reply-To: jcichock@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

In print:

Peter Pan (limited release) Hurry up it's leaving
The Jungle Book (limited release) Hurry up it's leaving
Fantasia (limited release) Hurry up it's leaving

Beauty and the Beast (limited release)
Robin Hood (limited release)
The Rescuers (limited release)
The Rescuers Down Under The Great Mouse Detective (limited release)
101 Dalmations (limited release)

Sword and the Stone (always available)
Alice in Wonderland (always available)
Dumbo (always available)
Mary Poppins (always available)

So Dear to My Heart (always available, for now)
Pete's Dragon (always available, for now)
The Three Caballeros (always available, for now)
Bedknobs and Broomsticks (always available, for now)


Pinocchio is being released in March (watch and lithographic with pre-purchase only at
the Disney Stores...$19.99).
(sources for this information came from the holiday Disney Catalog, the 
booklet in the BatB video, and the Disney Store, Freehold, NJ)

I guess you can guess that the others are not available at this time. Any updates,
please let me know.

Jeff
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From: gdsjaar@sass577.endo.sandia.gov (Greg Sjaardema)
Subject: Trivia Question 
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:16:19 GMT

My sister-in-law is a Disney trivia fanatic and can quickly answer
most questions.  However, shewas recently asked a question that has
her stumped.  The question is:

   What is the current job of Fred Newman at Disney?

Thanks for any info

-Greg Sjaardema, gdsjaar@sandia.gov

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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:38:35 GMT

In <1993Jan8.014013.16294@news2.cis.umn.edu> amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian) writes:

>Hear, hear!  The first time I saw TLM and Flounder waddled/swam onto screen, 
>I couldn't help but think that you could get at LEAST a box of fishsticks out 
>of him!  (Ok, so maybe my date and I that night were being extraordinarily 
>cheap and I hadn't had dinner yet and couldn't help but think about food.  Or 
>maybe I was totally cynical at the time, or was trying to be funny.  I don't 
>remember.  Go figure.  :-)

Sacrilege!  Go bury your head in a bucket of water, quick!

Tim Pickett

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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:01:25 GMT

In <uslave.726611080@mcl> uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!) writes:
>In <1993Jan6.012109.20280@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:

>[Sebastian and the thimble]
>>It disappears then reappears then disappears.  Doesn't sound very likely
>>to me. . .
Ah.   No one spotted the "A Tiger?  In Africa?  Doesn't sound very
likely to me . . ." Monty Python reference.  Hardly surprising really.

>Hmmm.  I only remember it disappearing once, when he was going to take
>Ariel home and give her "something warm to drink....".  Or did it also
>disappear when Flounder and Ariel asked him not to tell Triton?  I don't
>think so, but I don't remember, haven't watched it in a whole week.  :)
It did.  And we all know what you're going to do now, don't we? :)

>>(I forgot that Flounder (capital F) has got a horizontal tail.  That
>>just adds to the question I mentioned in #3.)
>He had a horizontal tail when Ariel grabbed them during "Part of Your
>World".  But when Ursula was watching Ariel and him in the beginning,
>his tail was swaying left and right, not up and down like Ariel.  And
>he was *not* swimming sideways.  :)

>Truth to tell, I think his tail was vertical more often than it was
>horizontal.  But, then again, I didn't really pay much attention to
>his tail.

Yeah. . . Like everyone else, you were too busy watching Ariel. :)

Tim.
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From: hyler@ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: Aladdin wishes
Reply-To: hyler@ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:19:29 GMT

In article 1iv7m8INNkr2@shelley.u.washington.edu, thom@cac.washington.edu (Thom Roholt) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.184605.10130@zeus.ieee.org> jcichock@ep.ieee.org writes:
>>On his third wish, why doesn't Aladdin wish for more wishes? Is this something only
>>Jafar would wish for and not someone as likable as Aladdin? Did the Genie go over
>>this during the rules for making wishes? Just a thought.
>>
>>Jeff
>
>Yes, the Genie placed three restrictions on wishes:
>
>1.  No extra wishes.  You only get 3.
>2.  The Genie cannot bring people back to life.  They return like a Pet
>    Sematary type (I think).
>3.  The Genie cannot make someone fall in love with the wisher.
>
>Thom
>

Almost.  I think the Genie mentioned the no extra wishes right away as
in "You get three wishes and no asking for extra wishes".  He then
placed the three restrictions on which were the above latter two and:

  * The Genie cannot kill someone for you.

(My 6 year old son was trying to figure out if there were any loopholes
in all the restrictions so we spent quite a bit of time going over
these!)


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From: jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: BatB question
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:06:27 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1993Jan5.164108.26474@pool.info.sunyit.edu> scmj@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Christine Johnson) writes:
>My sister and I have been debating the Beast's age question as well.  It
>has bugged me since I first saw the movie.
>
>Her theory is that the prince was 16 in the painting.  Since animals do
>not age the same as humans, the prince only aged one year for every two
>while he was the beast. 
>
Couldn't this just be a case of continuity error?  This happens all the time
in movies.
-- 
Janet Tilander
Chevron Exploration and Production Services Co.
San Ramon, CA
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Nudie toons - It's me
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:01:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1993Jan13.001539.24436@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>Howdy all,
>   I got quite a few requests for my Little Mermaid, April O'Neil, and
>Jessica Rabbit gif's. The original versions were lost, but I've rescanned
>and re-nakedized them. (This time I got Ariel's hair and scales' color right.)
>
>   Would anyone be against me posting these here instead of me mailing them
>to about 10 people individually? That way everybody could just grab the
>ones they wanted.
>
>Note that my Ariel gif is NOT the one reported by Entertainment Weekly.

Well, some people may get a bit touchy--someone once posted a
"naughty" parody of a Disney song, which began a nearly endless
debate.  If you don't want to offend anyone, maybe you could post
the GIF's to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica, where such pictures,
Disney-related or not, probably belong.  If many who want them don't
have access to the "erotica" newsgroup, then perhaps you can post
them here--it certainly wouldn't kill anyone.  These are just
suggestions.


- Robert Cook
From: Rick.Kravette@bird.com (Rick Kravette)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: SONG OF THE SOUTH
Date: 11 Jan 93  19:44:05 EST



Song of the South is Available however on Laser Disc as a Japanese
Import. Ken Cranes in Westminster, CA has copies of them as do other
Laser Disc Stores that deal with Imports.


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From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:28:52 GMT

In <1993Jan10.192249.28374@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:

>Maybe chip was born after the enchantment. Who knows maybe magic spells 
>can be inherited. I don't know who the father would be, but it was just an
>idea.

Yeah, but how does a tea kettle give birth?  That sounds harder to explain
than all this stuff about the 10 years!  :)


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From: jem@edsr.eds.com (John E. Mendenhall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey's Toontown
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:22:29 GMT
Organization: EDS Research, Dallas, TX 75230

In <1992Dec31.192550.19107@nas.nasa.gov> storm@smaug.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Storm) writes:

>In article <1992Dec29.114956.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>|> Mickey's Toontown at Disneyland is now being "soft opened."  The official
>|> date isn't until January 26.  The decision on whether to open or not is
>|> supposedly being made on a day to day basis, and it is only open for a
>|> few hours when they do.  I finally caught it open yesterday, and it is a
>|> blast!

>On Sunday, the 27th, my wife and 6 year old son were getting off the train
>as the sneak preview was being announced.  She and he were therefore in the
>first group let into Toontown.  They rode the roller coaster and then came
>back to the hotel room to get me and the baby.  (They knew I would be VERY
>upset and jealous!)  According to cast members (and some suit dressed types) 
>she talked to, this was the first such pre-opening.  Toon-town was open from
>11 to 5 that day.  The previous posters descriptions were accurate.  It
>is an area for the smaller children, something that augments FantasyLand
>rather well.  

I was at Disneyland on Tuesday, 22 December 1992.  Toontown was officially "pre-
opened" on that day.  The Orange County Register reported on Sunday or Monday
that the December 22nd would be the first time it would be opened.  It was
reserved the entire day for "special" guests, but would probably be opened to
the public later that day.  The "special" guests were under-privileged kids
from the Los Angeles and Orange County area.

When we arrived, we went directly to It's A Small World.  We noticed ToonTown
and were told that the special guests would be arriving soon to try out the
new attraction.

Later that day, as we were riding the train around the park, we saw that ToonTown
was open to the public at the time.  We planned on heading back to that section
of the park later in the afternoon.  When we did make it back, it was beginning
to get dark and they were closing the gates to ToonTown.

It was sad to have missed the first day of a new attraction, but at least we
were able to see most of the rides from the outside, and to see the kids playing
while we rode past on the train.

John Mendenhall
jem@edsr.eds.com
From: dgalvin@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Dan Galvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: THE NEW WDW COMMERCIAL (or latest one)
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:39:33 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toledo / Recreation

In article <1itoq0INNb3j@sumax.seattleu.edu>, kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Tuff Hedelman fan) writes:
> Well, no one has mentioned it yet, but yes folks, the new WDW commercial is 
> out and has the same "be our guest" melody. I am sure most of you have seen
> it already, ....(rest deleted)
Well One problem I have with this is the kid standing behind the animator...
Does the average kid get to stand behind an animator while they work?  I would
think that could be misleading.. I mean on the old commercial we don't see a
little kid standing next to Mickey as he waves from the top of Spaceship Earth
Geodome  (Oh OK I am just jealous because I want to stand on top of the coolest
place in EPCOT and wave) 
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From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Re: Re-post of the Hidden Mickey list
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:08:06 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

Mike Yawn writes:
> I think we spotted two previously unreported Hidden Mickeys on our last
> trip to Disney World -- anyway care to try to confirm these?
> 
[TEST DELETED ]
> 
> Mike "but I couldn't find Mickey in the broccoli" Yawn
>      
Thanks for the input Mike. I've already appended these to the list. Too bad
that you couldn't find the HM in the broccoli. Once you do it will almost jump
out at you.

Stan
From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyworld trip review
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:09:48 EDT
Organization: Hampshire College
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	Hi all.. i just got back from disneyworld a few days ago- the trip was
pretty awful, probably because of the company i kept, but i just thought i'd
touch on a few highlights and give some advice for anyone travelling down that
way soon.
	The best evening by far was the "Medieval Times" dinner show.  Knights
on horsebacks, jousting matches, period costumes, great food.. all for $26. I
highly reccommend getting there early and getting seats close to the front- you
won't regret it.  The "Sleuths" dinner show is also really good, as is King
Henry's Feast.
	It was my first trip to Universal studios.. I _loved_ Beetlejuices'
Graveyard Revue.  The Back to the Future ride is not to be done on an empty
stomach, and the ET ride was really cute (if not reminiscent of "it's a small
world.").  Overall, tho, I still liked MGM better.  The Aladdin parade and BATB
live stage show were fantastic... a must see.
	I didn't get to go on Splash Mountain- the lines were much too long for
me to brave.  But it looked pretty impressive.  I bumped into Chip (signing
Dale's name on autographs- i found that amusing), and a few other characters,
but not as many as I expected or remembered.  I wonder where they all were?
	I went on the animation tour at MGM and saw sketchs for The Lion King
and a basic storyboard.. the arists themselves were on a field trip to the
local zoo for observation.  The characters and story looked great from where i
was standing- i can't wait to see it all together!
	Just thought i'd throw in my little review.  take care!

					l.c.s.
					lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu

 

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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: More on Disney Women
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:38:25 GMT
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f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu wrote:
: >how the Disney women have big eyes since Eisner.  Anybody remember
: >the girl in Jungle Book.  I personally donot think all the Disney women look
: >alike (Jasmine is by far the best looking).

: Hmm...I would rate Jasmine the best EXCEPT her face looks like she took a few
: hits to the nose with a brick when she was about 6 months old...so my favorite
: will always be Ariel...I sometimes think Belle has a better personality than
: Ariel, though (more independant/self-sufficient) but overall I like Ariel
: better...

: JD
But Belle just looks so much better!

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From: rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re-post of the Hidden Mickey lis
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:13:47 GMT
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{Listing of Hidden Mickeys at WDW/Epcot deleted}

O.K.  I'll buy this since I first heard about this in an article published in
Disney News magazine.  However...I'm sure there's GOT to be Hidden Mickeys at
Disneyland in California, Tokoyo Disneyland in Japan and EuroDisneyland in
France.

So does anyone have a listing of these?  Or was it just a fluke that the
Imagineers chose to only sprinkle them at ONE park?

Thanks

-Rich
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: What about Disney Horses (Was: Disney Women)
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:54:33 GMT

In <dbarber.726369017@crash.cts.com> dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber) writes:

>With all this talk about how unreal the Disney animated women are
>(i.e. where do all the internal organs go), well how about those
>Disney animated horses?  Aren't they a little bit different too?

Well, I'm particularly wondering about those centaurs out of Fantasia.
Like, if the you-know-whats on the females are where they are, what goes
you-know-where if you consider the horse part?  One of life's little
mysteries. . .

Tim Pickett

PS as far as horses go, Philippe has got to be the best looking.  I'd
give him a four out of five.  Are you listening, Robert?
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Aladdin...
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:32:18 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

Careful, Derek, someone might accuse you of being Dan Quayle.
Jennifer
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
"PC?  What's a PC?  Ask an MIS major, Lady, I don't know."
Buster: "Why is this guy on our show?"  -- "When You're Hot . . ."
(Just reminds me of certain CS professors.  Why is this guy at our school?)
Babs: "Now THAT is negative thinking!"  -- "That's Art Folks!"
(What one of the other CS professors tells me about the preceding.)
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But I did vote for Bush/Quayle!
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From: gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Sean Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.disney
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 23:37:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1993Jan4.030729.1@devl.fnal.gov> reyna@devl.fnal.gov writes:
>    I know that this is a silly question, but has anyone else stayed up nights
>wondering about this very thing?

Uh, no, I hope not...


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