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From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Subject: Re: where should SET name=thing go?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:20:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.151847.17868@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
}In article <1992Dec14.065220.19796@cdf.toronto.edu> g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis) writes:
}> The 'Autoexec.Bat' is there for DOS sessions only. Therefore the 'SET'...
}The tricky part of this, as I indicated in another post, is that
}AUTOEXEC.BAT gets runs for *all* simulated DOS sessions...
}I think it also gets run when you launch a WIN/OS2 session...

Correct.

}This presents a problem for those of us who are used to having long,
}involved AUTOEXECs...
}[Need a way to distinguish interactive and non-interactive DOS sessions].

}After much playing, I found a way to do it.  (You'll love this!)
}In your notebook for the interactive DOS session Icon, you put /E:1024
}in the Parameters box.  What this does is set the env size to 1024 only
}for the interactive sessions.  Now all you have to do is be able to
}detect this fact in the AUTOEXEC.BAT.  I had written, some time back, a
}program called READVAR (freeware availble upon request) that, among
}other things, can tell you how large your environment is.  When run with
}no args, READVAR will write a brief usage msg to stdout, including a
}display of the current env size.  Thus, my AUTOEXEC contains the
}following:

}	readvar | grep 1024 >nul
}	if errorlevel 1 goto not_interactive_shell
}	...	(interactive shell stuff here)

}Pretty cool, eh?

Yes, nice trick.  Pity to have to trick it, though.  In another thread
in this forum, someone from IBM asked (paraphrased), "would the ability
to specify the AUTOEXEC file help?"

I would answer this question yes.  I have found it to be so because I
have made use of a feature of 4DOS to do that very thing.  What I've
done is change the definition of SHELL in CONFIG.SYS to point to 
4DOS.EXE, however, I omitted including "/p" or any other arguments in 
the definition (actually, I think that I could leave the /p).  Instead,
I put these things in the shell pathname setting under the DOS settings
menu in the program object.  This setting existed, but could not be 
changed from the default provided by CONFIG.SYS in the 2.0 GA.  Now,
however, in the SP, you can change it -- hurrah!

With 4DOS, if you specifiy a directory pathname as an argument, 4DOS
will look in that directory for a file called 4DOS.INI.  In 4DOS.INI,
you can specify the file to use as the AUTOEXEC file.  It's a little
bit roundabout, but it works well.  I really only have two AUTOEXEC
files, one for interactive sessions and one for WINOS2 and specific
DOS programs started from an OS/2 program object, but it's possible
to have all manner of custom AUTOEXEC files for every occasion :-).

Larry
-- 
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registering?  Your ears are green.  Logic is a little bird singing in a
meadow.  Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad! - Mr. Spock
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1?
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:02:18 GMT

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>development and as a happy - and much impressed - OS/2 user I don't mind

I'm not so impressed.  While it seems to work OK, it is awfully slow,
and not nearly as "snappy" as native Win3.1.  Maybe I'll feel differntly
once I install it on my 486/33 with 16mb.  On the 386/25 with 8mb, it
is very slow (even to get a menu there is a significant delay!!!).



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Where do things go when you move them to a folder?
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:20:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.113448.774@netcom.com> xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes in response to a query of mine:
...
>The problem here, I think, is that you're going to DOS.  DOS doesn't
>understand HPFS filenames, unless they fit the 8.3 format.  The desktop
>folder (directory) does not fit the 8.3 format.  Therefore, DOS programs
>won't be aware of files on the desktop, or in folders on the desktop.
>Go to an OS/2 window/full-screen, then cd "OS!2 2.0 Desktop" (the quotes
>are required), and do a dir.  You should see your folder, and if you cd
>to it, you should see your file.

Thanks for the info!!  The quotes (& using an OS/2 window) are the ticket.

However, the plot continues.  I have set up a drag-n-drop icon for UNZIP.
I have a directory called C:\TMP, and I copy FOO.ZIP to \TMP, it shows
up in the TMP icon view; if I drag the icon to the unzip icon, it will
run unzip (minimized) and the files show up in the TMP icon view.

When I create a folder in \TMP, and move FOO.ZIP to the folder, FOO.ZIP does
show up in the directory \tmp\"folder name" (seen from an OS/2 window).
However, the drag-n-drop no longer works.  It is as if UNZIP (the OS/2
32 bit version, from Hobbes) can't unpack files into folders.
(Or, at least, folders with funny names...)

This later problem is in fact the real problem.  It is how I got started
on this whole mess.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ssinglet@diana.cair.du.edu (LaserJock)
Subject: Trident prob-Dos screen trashed when alt-home to full scn
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 02:28:39 GMT

Hello,
Another plea for help with Trident SVGA drivers.  I have applied the
SP and then installed the new 32bit Trident drivers (and the
associated bvhsvga, etc) according to the file from Steve Withers
archived on Dec 9.  However, I get garbage when I change from a
windowed Dos session to a full screen session using alt-home.  I have
the video-notification turned on in the dos settings.  If I return to
a windowed session hitting alt-home again, things are fine until I
attempt to go back to a full screen session.  I replace the various
file in \os2\dll with the originals from the SP, and tried to use the
generic svga 800x600x16 driver recently put on hobbes.  Same results.
I have tried turning of the bios video shadow ram, no luck.  I see in
the readme some suggestions if the wps screen gets trashed, but I have
the opposite problem - the dos screen gets trashed.  Things work fine
in regular vga with the SP supplied drivers.

My system:  Generic 386-40 motherboard, 8 megs, trident 8900c 1 meg
board with default jumper settings,AMI bios.

Any help would be appreciated.....Sorry if it's something obvious.

Thanks,
Steve
ssinglet@du.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lau@rose.brandeis.edu (frankie t. k. lau)
Subject: os/2-window or 4os/2 like => FULL SCREEN for te/2 ??
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:57:24 GMT

hi,
	When running communication program like te/2, I found it is
very desirable to run that in a os/2 window (or 4os/2 window)
which can be switched to FULL-SCREEN when wished.
(which becomes necessary because of the slower performance of
 256 color Trident driver).

	I would appreciate any tricks or programs that
makes os/2 window Full-screenable. (and back to window if so desired.)

-Frankie
lau@tammy.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve)
Subject: Change drive of Swapper.dat (was Re: OS/2 2.1?)
Summary: Put it to another drive!
Organization: University of Bonn, phys. Chemistry
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:54:14 GMT

In article <c01RVB2w165w@tcscs.UUCP> zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com writes:
[...]
>to be EXTRA cautious that my Swapper file doesnt grow too large.  I had to
>totally reinstall my entire system and reformat my hard drive (when I had it
>all on one partition so I lost everthing!) because swapper ran out of space
>and the whole system came down hard.
[...]
Why don't you just put the swapper.dat to another drive/partition? You 
can change the swappath environment variable in config.sys.
-- 
				- Thomas

   greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
   unt145@dbnrhrz1
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis)
Subject: Re: Os/2-aware floppy drives on the PS/2. 
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:52:20 GMT

In article <1gev8gINNbid@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.221015.12402@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

 [other stuff deleted]

>Once of nicest parts about formatting floppies on a Sun, that you can
>tell it to eject when done, so you know when to put the next disk in.
>
>(btw, maybe you can mention to IBM to add a /beep option to format.exe,
>so you know when it's finished. one of the drawbacks of having such 
>excellent multitasking, is that you forget to check the window to
>see if it's done formatting)

 How about not! One of the things about multitasking systems is that if
 every program beeps at any given time during its execution, you pretty
 well end up with one long, long, really long beep. I've seen this happen
 on SUNs and it wasn't anywhere near "music to your ears".

 Then again, command-line swithes are optional, so no harm there.

 Nick.


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 to mess up beyond repair today."
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ekarabin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric B Karabin)
Subject: Re: Internet is too big....CI$ is much smaller.
Organization: The Ohio State University
 Stanton) writes:
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:18:46 GMT


     I think IBM is just trying to concentrate on strengthening their
Forums on CompuServe.  (They have several, by the way.)

Does this make any sense?  Probably not.  :)

                    Eric, CompuServe Inc.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Mix of 3-chip and 9-chip simms with OS/2
From: pyrite@qed.cts.com (Sean Camanyag)
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:52:44 GMT
Organization: The QED BBS, Lakewood CA

With the Service Pack installed, I get a lot of trap errors, around 8-10,
sometimes more, per day.  People at IBM NSC BBS have put the blame on my mix
of 4 3-chip 1mb simms, and 4 9-chip 1mb simms.  This is UNACCEPTABLE,
considering that with GA + separately downloaded fixes, I have not had ANY
trap errors.  My question is, will this be fixed by the next release coming
soon?  Or am I the only one having this problem?  I would like to start using
the Trident 32bit drivers but the Service Pack's numerous trap errors
discourage me from leaving GA again.  It seems in fixing some problems, the
Service Pack has put more serious problems in their place.

I do not want to waste money by buying new simms just because the SP is being
picky. I can hardly sell off my old simms, considering that 1mb simms are too
low-priced for me to be able to set a reasonable price for my used ones. I do
plan to go to 16mb memory, but that is a LONG way off, and besides that, I'd 
rather spend that money on a CD-ROM drive.

/=======================+==============================================\
|   Sean Camanyag       |   pyrite@qed.cts.com                         |
|=======================+==============================================|
|   "Data, I thought you were dead!" "No, Sir.  I rebooted!"           |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Question about OS/2 emulated DOS, how it works???
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:38:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.190627.12697@cbnews.cb.att.com> shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
...
>Hmmm...  There's more to it than meets the eye.  Logically, I would have 
>agreed with you, but I have found that in cases where I exit from a VDM 
>and later start another, I frequently get a complaint from nnansi.com 
>that there's already a copy of nnansi.com loaded!  As if that wasn't 
>enough, it doesn't do it every time, just most of the time.

Amazing.  I have had this same problem - loading a TSR (QD).  I assume
that what is happening is that when you close a VDM, then re-open it,
without doing anything in between, it basically just re-uses the same
absolute memory locations, and doesn't clear them, so whatever signature
string the TSR put there the last time, is still there.

I think the overall solution is to make the TSR smarter about its
installation check.  All QD does is search memory (literally does a
"for seg=0; seg<=0xFFFF; seg++) search seg:0-F) for its string.  Very
crude.

>Now, I don't, offhand, see how anything from one VDM can survive termi-
>nation of the VDM and appear in another, new VDM session, but there is 
>at least some indication that nnansi.com is still around between sessions.

I think it does...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Misc OS/2 questions (especially CSD installation)
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:25:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.231900.13266@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>It was fine in the good old days when 1.2's were new and nobody could read
>my high density disks. There was one machine where I copied everything back
>to 360K before I gave it out.
>There are people using flopticals that I can't read and 2.88MB drives etc
>etc. If I label my disks adequately I could increase my bulk offline
>storage by 20% which is quite valuable.
>> If they do add it to the standard format command, though, make it
>> undocumented and somewhat convoluted.  Say, add the parameter /NS (for
>> nonstandard) if you're going to create diskettes with /N:20 and /T:82.
>Just the ability to say /T:82 and not have the thing respond that my
>hardware doesn't support it (which it does) would be nice. It's 'obscure'
>enough that the user who doesn't understand the concept probably won't end
>up playing with those options. The code seems to be there already but it's
>overly protective.

As long as they require that extra parameter -- I suggest "/NS" for
"nonstandard" -- and plaster warning messages about it, I have no
problem with allowing /N:20 and /T:82 (or whatever) in OS/2's FORMAT.
(I'm sure some enterprising programmer can come up with a FORMAT
substitute, in fact -- it shouldn't be that difficult.)  Why the /NS
parameter?  If you didn't require something extra, it would be far to
easy to type /T:89 (or some other typo).

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From: bbm@po.CWRU.Edu (Brian B. Mathewson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Random Beeps while running Service Pack
Date: 19 Dec 1992 05:55:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bbm@po.CWRU.Edu (Brian B. Mathewson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, chasi@netcom.com (Charles Inman) says:

>however in the past couple days both systems have begun exhibiting the same
>strange problem.  For no apparent reason, every so often the systems will beep
>1, 2 or 3 times.  This behavior seems to be completely random, I have not been
>able to determine any specific action that will cause it.
>

I believe the problem is that one of your paritions is full, and OS/2
can't store any more information on it.  It does this to me when my
D drive (_not_ the one with SWAPPER.DAT and OS/2) has less than about
5k left on it.


-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: SHIFTRUN (Was OS2SYS.ini file size: Interim solution.)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:05:35 GMT

hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:

>harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris) writes:
>>That is exactly why I wrote it.  (Well, not for Trident drivers, but to debug
>>video setups, etc.)

>And thank you very much for doing so!

Actually, I have you net people to thank for the idea.  I didn't think about
using CALL= in CONFIG.SYS.  Once you guys came up with that idea, the rest
fell into place in about 5 minutes.  I said that there HAS to be a better
way than manually editing CONFIG.SYS inserting CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE lines
all the time.


______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jardined@qucis.queensu.ca (Donald Jardine)
Subject: Re: CMS Jumbo 250 use under OS2 2.0
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:15:49 GMT

Note the following from a CMS representative:




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Subject: Re: CMS Jumbo 250 OS2 support
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> Anything further on the attached, especially for the FC-10 controller?
> 
 
Nope... nothing of yet on support for controller cards.  As of now, we are
looking to release our floppy controller card OS/2 solution sometime in
Jan.

I'll post to the newsgroup as soon as it is released with all the info you
guys need!

Thanks for your continued interest!!

Danielle.
From: woan@exeter.austin.ibm.com (Ronald S. Woan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: NEC Intersect Model CDR-74 and OS/2 2.0--yes or no?
Date: 16 Dec 92 05:12:18 GMT
Reply-To: woan@cactus.org
Organization: Austin School of Hardknocks

I believe IBM released a package of additional CDROM drivers
(including NEC Intersect support in particular) recently on
Compuserve...
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: Bernoulli drives and OS/2.
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:22:15 GMT

I don't understand the comment that Bernoulli drives don't work with
os/2 without drivers. I read/wrote Bernoulli drives in an MS DOS
session for quite a while before I got the Iomega drivers for os/2 and
was able to use the drives in os/2 sessions. 
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From: 5692330@mcimail.com (Robert Gammon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2SYS.ini file size. Possible Cause(s) !!! ??
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:09:34 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

In article <1992Nov26.092947.27901@abo.fi> CBURMAN@FINABO.ABO.FI (Chris Burman) writes:

 >> In <1992Nov25.185014.324@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu writes:
 >> 
 >> > ...<growing os2sys.ini>...
 >> > Mine also grows, but not that rapidly.  I suspect there may be
 >> > something to do with the number of times that C-A-D or resets are used
 >> > to restart OS/2.  I always use shutdown unless I have no other choice,
 >> > and my files remain rather small.  Someone mentioned that the files
 >> > may forget what space is garbage if the system is not properly
 >> > shutdown.
 >> 
 >> Doing a C-A-D may cause the os2sys.ini to grow, but that is not the main 
 >> cause of the problem. According to my log I have done exactly one C-A-D 
 >> (problem: frozen keyboard) since I installed the CSD on Nov 2.
 >> 
 >> My .ini file grows 50-70k every time I delete a file (.cmd files seem 
 >> to be especially bad). 
 >> 
 >> On the 21st I shrank my 17.5 Mb os2sys.ini. This morning I'm already up at 
 >> 4.2 Mb. 1Mb/day...
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Chris Burman, cburman@abo.fi

Well, I delete DOZENS of files a day, every day, and my OS2sys.ini is stable.
I do NOT touch the Drives object, all my deletions are at an OS/2 or DOS 
command prompt.  I noted this in another post about a month ago, so perhaps
the Drives object is partially responsible for the growth.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Some news from PC Week
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:30:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.223757.11851@itsmail1.hamilton.edu> jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy) writes:
>What I'd like to see is someone of Doug Hamilton's stature (Hamilton
>Labs, of OS/2 C Shell fame, though he's become interested in NT now) and
>writing talents become a proponenet for OS/2 (not that it matters).  A
>sound argument, presented with at least a nod towards dispassionateness
>(!), will convince at least the more thoughtful readers.  
>Willi Z?  Johnny D?  One gets the impression that they just like to hear
>themselves talk...

PC Week's Coffee?  (See November 9, PC Week.)

Follow up to comp.os.os2.advocacy.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: Screen savers
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:07:20 GMT

>So I switched to deskpic which tells you not to use two out of about
>a dozen screens in OS/2 v2. Beyond that it worked great and has some
>really nifty pics: fade to black, eyes, flashlight, etc.
>

Interestingly this was fixed in the beta and SP, ie you can use all screens.


--Don Lindbergh
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