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From: peter@techbook.com (Peter Sarrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: John Tesh's Gymnastics Coverage: Insipid
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:01:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Jul30.060101.4843
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Before I even begin, I'll admit right up front that I've got an axe to grind
with sportscasters in general.  In my opinion, I feel they talk far too much,
seemingly feeling compelled to fill every moment of the transmission with
mindless chatter and trivial minutae.  When I hear an announcer say something
like, "This athelete's had a lot of difficulty getting here, but she's here
to bring home the gold" (of COURSE she's there to bring home the gold.  Duh.)
or, "He needs to really put his best foot forward here tonight and put out a
dynamite performance," I'll... well, I'll continue to be annoyed.

But by far the worst of the bunch has been John Tesh.  I don't have much to
complain about regarding his coverage of the gymnastic events themselves.  But
the maudlin, artificially melodramatic profiles of the atheletes are insulting.
The profiles of Kim Zmeskal stick out in my mind as the worst offenders.  His
voiceover copy contained gems like, "She came here with a dream-- but with one
misstep, it's turned into a nightmare," and, "This is a moment that Kim Zmeskal
will replay in her mind over and over for the rest of her life-- a tragic
moment when her Olympic dreams were dashed beneath the 4-inch balance beam."

Putting aside for the moment the fact that he was wrong-- her chances weren't
dashed by her fall from the beam, and she in fact qualified for the all-around
competition-- the profiles victimize, trivialize, and patronize the atheletes.
Other profiles, in other sports, have been quite good-- but John Tesh betrays
his Entertainment Tonight background with the blatant, embarrassing, and
infuriating sensationalism he's brought to the gymnastics coverage.

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From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (The Demon Piperess)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Murphy Brown (Was: The Powers That Be)
Date: 25 Jul 92 14:32:39 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul25.034220.17010@news.acns.nwu.edu> staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers) writes:
>Actually, Dan Quayle cannot appear as Dan Quayle without invoking the
>law that requires equal access to candidates.  This means Clinton or
>Gore could request an appearance on the show if Dan was shown before
>the election.  Or Clinton could strike a deal to be on Designing women
>and call it even.  Murphy can talk about Dan all she wants  without
>invoking the law.  But a physical appearance is a little more difficult.
>Of course, CLinton could just waive any equal access right for this
>particular event.
>
>Remember, the equal access rule doesnt apply to news or talk shows (if
>the talk show is deemed newsworthy).  But it does apply to sitcoms.
>
I'm a bit rusty on all of the equal access laws, etc.  But M.B. can
certainly get around it by making sure that the airing of the episode
occurs after the election (to refer back to Larry King's remark,
Danny may need a job then).  Also, would Clinton and Gore be able to
request an appearance even if Quayle's appearance wasn't a direct
campaign?  Hmmm...not sure (Sorry Tom...I KNOW you went over this in
class awhile back...:)

Cat
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From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:54:32 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.anime
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <EeP0QD200iUxM1Gb8w@andrew.cmu.edu> cb30+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carol A. Buckner) writes:

> Anybody out there remember this cartoon?  I used to watch it with my
> brother when we were younger.  It always reminded us of a cartoon
> version of Battle Star Galactica because a whole civilization saved
> itself by taking off from their doomed home planet in search of a new
> place to live.  I don't remember who the nemesis was that chased the
> robotech gang???  We haven't gotten it here in Pittsburgh for a good
> while.  Does it still come on anywhere?  Just curious.
>  
> Carol Buckner
> Carnegie Mellon University 


Robotech ran many a year ago in the NYC/PA area.  While it is not
currently being broadcast (I think the fledgling SF Channel is looking
at it), it is mostly available on video with new versions being
released on video next year.

Currently, the first part: Macross is available in a highly edited
form from Family Home Entertainment.  The second two parts, ("Robotech
Masters" & "New Generation") are being released by Palladium books.
However, next year, the entire series is being released to video by
Streamline Pictures, (Carl Macek, the "creator" of Robotech, is one of
the owners of Streamline).  This release by Streamline is unique in
that the tapes will also include the original Japanese episodes
(subtitled) that the Robotech episodes correspond to.  (Robotech is,
of course, based on three seperate Japanese Animated series)

Btw, The nemesis of the first series were the Zentraedi, a race of
Warrior giants who were sent by the Robotech Masters to retrieve Zor's
battlefortress (The SDF-1) which had mis-jumped and crashlanded on Earth.

I set followups to rec.arts.anime, a newsgroup devoted to Japanese
animation like Robotech.  

Steve
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From: ratter@b8.ingr.com (Ray Ratte)
Subject: Re: Raven episode last night
Summary: RAVEN ending
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:16:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.150005.1@indyvax.iupui.edu>, imer400@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
> > Can someone tell me what happened at the very end?  I wasn't watching
> > very carefully, but all of a sudden, Jonathan let the Soviet guy go.
> > I also missed the end of Jonathan's fight with Pryor.  How did he kill
> > her?  What choice was Ski talking about?  (You can tell, I was very
> > confused last night!)
> 
> ******* Possible SPOILERS ***************
> page down to see
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> Anita,
>  IF I followed the showed correctly last night, it first showed the coffin
> of the guy he killed(?) the previous week being shipped home. Jonathan let
> the Soviet go because he originally thought the guy had planted an atomic
> bomb. He killed Pryor by breaking her neck. The choice Ski was talking
> about was whether or not to kill her. 
>                                         Martha Rapp
>                                         imer400@indyvax.iupui.edu

No Martha, the first scene was after everything had happened and the body
in the coffin was Pryor. The whole program was about how there came to be
a body in that coffin. Everyting else you posted was correct

Ray. R.
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Unlikely plots
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:47:12 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <7854@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, ns@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.101402.57341@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
> writes:
> 
> *Actually, "Hart to Hart" is the story of a deep-cover assasin for the
> *U.N.C.L.E. whose job it is to locate and eliminate Thrush activities in
> *high society.  Jonathon and Max know nothing of this, of course, and are
> *programmed to pin the deaths on somebody other than Jennifer. :-)
> 
> Lorna:  I love this!!!  But where is Mark?  ; )

Hmm . . .  Mark must be Jennifer/April's control.  He never appears in the
show.  Jonathon et al might know him as Jennifer's "editor".  For a writer
she does precious little writing!
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Dennis Miller show
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:51:13 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1992Jul23.001638.4936@nic.umass.edu> a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd) writes:
}    One of the things I most liked about the show were the "alternative"
}musical guests.  Letterman has those kinds of bands on but I can't stand
}how they have to share the stage with Letterman's house band, ick.  The

	You don't like the World's Most Dangerous Band? Wow.. You're
a rarity, apparently.  Not only do some people who don't like Letterman or
his show in general often heap praises on the band, but Paul Schaeffer and
the rest of the band often get to do *really cool* gigs when not doing the
show (Atlantic Records 40th anniversary, lots of other big things) and play with
the biggest name people.  They seem to all be very good musicians.
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From: jprisco@Oswego.EDU (Joseph Prisco (The Pope))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.soaps,soc.motss,rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.bi
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:16:03 GMT
Reply-To: jprisco@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Joseph Prisco (The Pope))
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

How about Richard on DOCTOR, DOCTOR?  He was one of the most positive
gay role-models on one of the best comedies on TV.  His character lost
some of his edge during the last season the show was on, but the
episode dealing with AIDS had to be one of the best on the subject.


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From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
Subject: Re: Tv settings -- a list (also: Growing Pains question)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 01:09:03 GMT


As I recall, the high school was mysteriously changed to Dewey
High School (after the guy who beat Truman--NOT!!). And I also
remember Maggie suddenly working for fictional TV stations 
(Channel 19). I guess somebody didn't like for art to imitate
life.                -Mark, bp979 on the FreeNet!
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From: gjackson@us.oracle.com (Gregg Jackson)
Subject: Re: "Pluck the Magic Twanger, Froggie"
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:35:10 GMT
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              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Jul21.105046.28664@cbfsb.cb.att.com> fgn@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (frank.g.neves) writes:
>In article <92202.094254BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>> Does anyone out there remember the show that featured
>> "the Frog" and the cat "Midnight" - a feature called Tim Tyler's Luck
>> "Spider Web" was also featured.  I would like to
>> know the name of the show if you can help.  It was
>> televised in the early 50's (maybe late 40's).
>> 
>> Any leads would be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> BRose
>
>I don't know if anyone's responded yet, but the show was "Andy's Gang", and
>starred Andy Devine.  Other features in the show included the serial, "Ramar
>of the Jungle".
>
>Froggy's famous saying, "Hiya kids, hiya, hiya, hiya!"
>
>Frank
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I remember Andy's Gang too. The sponsor was Buster Brown Shoes - "I'm Buster
Brown, I live in a shoe. Here's my dog Tige(sp?), he lives there too."

Andy Devine also played Wild Bill Hickcock's sidekick in a show called, I
think, "Wild Bill Hickcock", where his line was "Hey Wild Bill, wait for 
me."

Gregg W. Jackson, Oracle Corporation 

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From: mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu
Subject: Muppet show
Reply-To: mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:09:06 GMT


Does anyone know if the Muppet show is still on TV.  If so, please let me  
know what channel, day and time.

Thanks!!

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From: senetza@xi.uleth.ca (Len Senetza)
Subject: Re: G-Force
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:56:22 GMT

In <1992Jul21.162442.27674@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bl376@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel I. Greenberg) writes:
>Does anyone remember this cartoon?  It used to be my favorite cartoon while it
>was on.  However I can't remember a thing about it except that some small kid
>always studdered "princess" at least once during the show.  Does anyone
>remember the other character or the villians?

yeah it was great.  i think that there were 3 other characters besides the 
kid.  one was big and he drove the ship.  another guy was the leader and he 
drove some sort of smaller space-ship.  the last one was this girl who rode a
motor-cycle of sorts.  she wore mini-skirts and 'thigh-high' leather boots.
ah, memories.

>-Brian G.
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From: "Suzanne Morzajew, MPG, McGill University" <CCSM@MUSICM.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:34:46 GMT

Hi,

I can't be 100% sure, but I believe that there was a female character
on All My Children that was gay.  This goes back at least 7 years,.
if not more. The actress, I believe, was one of the actress from the
film "Saturday Night Fever".  Does anyone else remember this?
I am not an AMC fan, but it is one of the few soaps that we catch
here in Montreal (on CBC), that is not on cable, so I tuned in
every once in a while.

SM
From: mirsky1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mirsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: SQUARE PEGS
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:09:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Jul23.150939.14104
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

About the girl with braces on Square Pegs:
 While my sister was at Wellesley college she met the girl from
Square Pegs who wore braces. I think she graduated from Wellesley in
1989 or 1990. I think she also acted in on-campus productions. 
Thats all I know about her.
 
David Mirsky
mirsky1@husc.harvard.edu
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From: steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman)
Subject: Re: Bosom Buddies
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:04:56 GMT

dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:

> >I've been watching some of the reruns on USA this summer, and am 
> >wondering why they replaced the cover versions on Billy Joel's My Life 
> >with a wretched new generic sitcom theme song.  Probably to save a few 
> >bucks in royalties, I guess.

>Ugh... That was an OUTRAGE!!  

>The original theme song was FANTASTIC.  USA replaced one of the all 
>time best TV themes with something totally disgusting.  Sick!!

Well, FANTASTIC only if you like Billy Joel.  That aside, I've heard
there's some sort of rule which mandates that a TV theme song must be
changed every 2 years or so.
--
Dave!
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Morrow's deadline is Tuesday -- NOT!
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:04:08 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III) writes:

}rogue@cellar.org (Rachel McGregor) writes:

}>Well, anyone who tunes into E! or Entertainment Tonight this evening should
}>be able to get the final skinny on Rob Morrow's contract negotiations. 
}>According to Phila. Inquirer TV columnist Gail Shister, today's the day
}>Morrow and the studio have to make their agreement.

}Mondays's (7/20) LA Times Calendar Section reported that Rob Morrow has
}settled with the NEXP producers.  No details concerning the contract were
}revealed.

Mr. Morrow himself was on Leno 7/23 and reported that everything is settled
and he has already gone back to work.  He also said something that a lot
of people who post here should try harder to keep in mind:  Most of what
was written and reported about his "situation" was flatly untrue.

--James Preston
From: terry.mccombs@matrix.sbs.com (Terry Mccombs) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: RE: DO YOU REMEMBER ANY G
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: terry.mccombs@matrix.sbs.com (Terry Mccombs) 

-> There was a gay male couple on 'Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman'.  Was
-> this perhaps the first instance of ongoing gay characters in a TV
-> series?

  No, I think the first ongoing gay characters on television were Burt
and Ernie.
                        
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From: rolf@geoserv (Rolf Wilson)
Subject: Re: Olympic coverage etc..
Reply-To: rolf@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:48:36 GMT

jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:

>In article <1992Jul19.224649.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:

>> Other games to have once (and only once) graced the schedule were Croquet
>> (in 1900), Golf (yawn, imagine it today, 1900 & 1904), Jeu de Paume (aka
>> Royal Tennis and played in 1908), Lacrosse (1904 & 1908), Motor Boating
>> (1908), Polo (1900, 1908, 1920, 1924 and 1936), Rackets (1908), Roque (1904),
>> Tug-Of-War (1900-1912, 1920).


>You forgot Standing Broad Jump.  I think it was only done in the first
>of the resurrected Games.  Ooooh, the excitement...

  There was a Standing Broad Jump, a Standing High Jump and a Standing
Triple Jump. They were done in 1900, 1904, 1906 (The Intercalated Games,
which some people don't count) and 1908. [Not all of the 3 standing
jumps were in all of those years] This leads to an obscure trivia
question - who has won the most Olympic gold medals? If you count the
Intercalated Games, the answer is Ray Ewry, with 10, all in the
standing jumps.
-- 
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Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.60's-70's.nostalgia
From: jeff appleman <MBAJSA@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:04:04 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <1992Jul23.025428.4478@uwm.edu>, ilene@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Ilene F
Levin) says:
>>               "Voyage to the bottom of the sea"
>>                       Trivia question: What was the name of the
>>                                        submarine on this show?
>
>The Seaview
>
>Has "Vogage ..." ever been in syndication? My memories of it are from
>when it originally aired - of course I was VERY young at the time :-)

  I don't recall seeing it in syndication, however there have been reports that
the new Science Fiction cable channel will be showing it.

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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: More Superfriends
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:01:23 GMT


In a previous article, bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) says:

>In a previous article, vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) says:
>
>>The Legion of Doom was composed of:
>>
>>	Lex Luthor	Brainiac	The Riddler	Giganta	
>>	Gorilla Grodd	Captain Cold	Sinestro	Solomon Grundy
>>	The Scarecrow	The Cheetah	Black Manta 	Bizarro
>>			
>>	and one other character whom I cannot recall at the moment.  Of
>>those I mentioned, only Giganta was not a regular DC character.
>>
>THe last member was the Toymaker.

Thanks!  Actually though, I believe he was called the Toyman.

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