From: look@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (ken loo)
Newsgroups: soc.penpals
Subject: Re: A wittle survey...jus' a wittle wone...
Keywords: Honesty, Lying
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:03:34 GMT
Distribution: soc.penpals
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <92Aug16.163403.26811@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
>In article <56964@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> look@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (ken loo) writes:
>Reminds me of the old joke about "You can't believe him, even
>when he tells you that he's lying!" (insert laugh track here)

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha,...


>knowing myself as I do, I am well aware that attempting to lie is
>pretty much doomed to failure, so I tend not to bother.   :)

unfortunately, not everybody is like you!

>that is placed by an Asian quotes a height of no less than 5'9"
>and in some cases goes to 6' and one guy even said that he grew
>up in the U.S. so that he had no "Asian" accent? Strange.....

"most" Asian are not known to be tall.  Something wrong with
saying that he grew up in the U.S. so that he had no accent?


>It must be my diet....yeah, that must be it.....  *snicker*
>Too much rice and soya sauce.......

some thing funny about that?  Probally better than hamburgers and
fries.  I personally, likes neither rice nor soy sauce....
and I am still short....

>>I am not cynical, I just see things the way they are.
>>Ken
>
>How you see things is not necessarily the way things are, IMHO.

facts you could either ignore, distort, or see.  facts are true.  I was not
refering to subjectivness.  Thou I can not really say that
I do not distort the facts.  I am still not a cynic.

>Only omniscient people (do you know any?) can claim to see things
>the way they are.

the best one could do is not distort the facts, collect as much
info as posible.  When one talks about seeing things the way
they are, one has to talk about external things, which does not
inclused subjectiveness.  Like I have said, one can either
ignore, distort, or see facts the way they are.  The process 
does not include trying to quess why things happend the way they
did.  Nor does it includ intuition.   Being a mechanical engineer, 
you should be able to relate.

And dont bring up quantum mechanics.      


>Your statement reminds me of Oscar Wilde, who once said that
>"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those
>who do not possess it."  :)

I never implied that to you nor have I ever implied that
to anyone else in this universe.  I was mearly stating
what I thought about myself, which is totally subjective.
If you see otherwise of my saying of myself, it is your
observation.  And since you know nothing of me other than
what I have written,(which was not too much)  you do not
have enough facts about me
to conclude anything.  
>

>I prefer Kahlil Gibran: "The world is a great mirror. It reflects
>back to you what you yourself are."

he must have been a quantum physicist.
>

>And that, in a nutshell, is MY philosophy of life. Cheers.  :)
>(Oh, and my undergraduate major was mechanical engineering!)

your philosophy indeed.  I wish not to step on anyone's
toes, I had no intention of turning this in to a debate or 
anything else.  enought said.
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Ken
my philosophy also, liable to change since I am a novice to
life.