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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:10:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.220919.16324@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
>In article <6921@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug28.171342.14606@access.digex.com>, rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale) writes:
>>|> Carpenter's PRINCE OF DARKNESS is one of my favorite horror movies.  My 
>>|> husband and I have watched it many times.  Partly ... to figure out what is
>>|> really going on.
>>|> 
>>|> Does anyone know if this was based on a novel or if there was a novelization
>>|> of the moive???  [Insight could be increased!]
>>|> -- 
>>|> Lady Robin of Riverdale
>>|> 
>>|> "Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us."
>>
>>   Glad to see someone liking Carpender's work.  Have you seen his reworking
>>  of 'The Thing from Another Workd', called 'The Thing'.  It has *very*
>>  good complimentary effects ... but some see it as overkill.  For my tastes,
>>  though, it sets the atmosphere very well...
>>
>>   For those of you out there who have not seen eith of these films, a walk
>>  to you local video shop is in order.
>>
>>   ps : I recommend you watch 'The Thing'  in the very earily hours of the
>> morning (ie between 2 and 4 AM).
>>
>>                                   Owen  
>
>	My favorite Carpenter films:
>
>	Christine, The Thing, and Escape From New York.  All have excellent
>soundtracks as well, with Christ. and EFNY written by Carpenter himself.
>
>
>						IMHO,
>							Raymond H. Rich

	Let us not forget Halloween.  Assault on Precinct 13 is good too.  I
thought his latest films Prince of Darkness and They Live were not up to par
with Carpenter.  Frankly, I was disappointed with both.  I have not seen the
latest, Memoirs of An Invisible Man, or a t.v.-movie(drama) that he did most
recently.  How are those?
	My Faves: Halloween, The Fog, The Thing, Escape From New York, &
	Assault On Precinct 13.  And Dark Star of course!

	Anyone else have a problem with Prince and They Live?

				-Casey Hopkins
hopkins@agora.rain.com
From: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se (Johnny Schmittou EXU-T-EEG x7887 Dallas Texas USA)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: HG GIGER
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:37:50 GMT
Reply-To: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article ic61301@pro-amber.cts.com, rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) writes:
==>Isn't it H R Giger??


Yes, it is.  Actually, technically it's H. R. Giger.  (Oh, I love to pick nits.)
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Newsgroups: alt.horror,misc.writing
From: jimwo@sssab.se (Jim Woodward)
Subject: Re: Horror Magazines
Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.04.09  1.20 (running under MS-Windows)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:58:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.181638.14505@sfu.ca>, guay@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Guay) writes:


>In article <1992Aug31.170637.23876@pellns.alleg.edu> frisinv@alleg.edu writes:
>>   I'm an unpublished author of horror stories looking to rectify that  
>>situation. Mostly, I write supernatural/psychological oddities and  
>>something very vaguely Lovecraftian with a surrealist twist. Could anyone  
>>please e-mail or post the addresses of magazines that might publish this  
>>sort of fiction. 
>>A thousand blessings on the house that which can grant me any help.
>>-----
>>Vince
>Buy a copy of The Novel and Short Story Writer's Market it will give
>you all the info you need. It is put out by Writer's Digest annually.
>
>TTFN
>	Tim
>
>

Tim's right. Novel and Short Story Writer's market contains information on 1800 fiction 
publishers. The price is 19.92 plus $3.00 postage to:

					Writer's Digest Books
					1507 Dana Avenue
					Cincinnati, Ohio 45207

				Credit Card Toll Free Ordering:

					1-800-289-0963

Jim
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From: markh@wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson)
Subject: Re: MetaHorror
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:57:55 GMT

In article <dlaird.1e98@terapin.com> dlaird@terapin.com (Delbert Laird) writes:
>I'm amazed that this was classified as horror.  IMHO- This *Barely* reached the
>point of being classified as horror only in that it described the human
>condition....Paranoia, fear, hatred, impovished.  To me, that only remotely
>qualifies.
Paranoia, fear and hatred... these are some of the things that make up
great horror.

I'm sure from your previous comments, that the type of horror you enjoy
is characterised by external rather than internal and psychological horror.
Nothing wrong with that, but to try and exclude this type of horror
(psychological/often non-supernatural) from the genre as a matter of 
definition, would be to get rid of what many of us consider some of 
the best horror fiction.

Obviously the tastes of people here vary widely. When someone recommends
something you might take it in the context of the person who is
recommending it. 

Hey, some people even think Koontz is horrific ;-)

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: kjetilgr@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Granlien)
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:26:19 GMT
Originator: kjetilgr@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <5830@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell) writes:
> There are numerous Necronomicons floating around, all are fakes (H.R.
> Geiger's book doesn't claim to BE the Necronomicon, so it can't be called
> a fake).  I know of at least 3 different fakes that exist.  One is a
> paperback (of which I own a copy -- really hokey stuff :-), one is a
> leather-bound hard-back (it originally sold in the late 70's for $50 US,
> too much for any book), and an incredible fake-aged reproduction of what
> the Necronomicon might be, if it existed (I saw a copy once -- beautiful
> work -- could've fooled me had I not known that it was a fake).        
<stuff deleted>

 I have heard of a Necronomicon which contained some cryptic language. If 
you scimmed through it you could get fooled, but a closer look would reveal 
that it repeated itself every three pages or so.. 
 I am not sure where I've heard this.. but who cares..
Some organization in USA refered to the book as an satanic script.. and they
used it as a critisism against roleplay.  Go figure!
The organization is called something like 'Parents agains D & D' .. I'm not
sure. 

enough rambling.. 

Espen: Hva gjoer du i Tromsoe?? Hvorfor ikke komme til Oslo?

Kjetil Granlien
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From: brackney@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry J Brackney)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Clive Barker question
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:58:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

ferring@ms.uky.edu (William Ferring |  ferring@ms.uky.edu) writes:
>emilio@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (emilio guzman) writes:
>
>>Does Clive Barker have any other movies out besides the Hellraiser Trilogy
>>and NightBreed.  Any information will be appreciated.
>
>I believe he also did a movie called "Rawhead Rex" which was kinda cheesy...
>But sometimes cheesy is good.

   I'm not sure to what extent he was involved w/ Rawhead Rex.  He is also
credited with a film entitled Transmutations.  I've not got up the nerve
to plunk my cash down for the bargain bin copy yet though.

   - larry

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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: "Ernest Perez" <demoep@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Interaction with a hypertext
Organization: Access Information Assoc., Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:45:40 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>John Maxwell <John_Maxwell@mindlink.bc.ca> writes...
>My impression of how a hypertext should be (ideally, anyway) is an endless sort
>of "comments in the margins" sort of discourse between the first author of the
>work and then subsequent reader-authors. Jay David Bolter, in his book "Writing
>Space" talks about the breakdown of traditional ideas of authorship and the
>repurcussions this has for the kinds of rhetoric we're used to.
>I have yet to see a hypertext system that makes it so easy for a reader to add
>to the text that his or her comments become part of the text for the next
>reader.

Neil Larson of MaxThink has developed this community authorship approach 
with his "knowledge annealing" concept.  He proposes that an original 
author of a hypertext with network or BBS access act somewhat as a 
moderator. He advises that any/every user be able to make additions, 
annotations, and suggestions, and that the "administrator" regularly 
edit the system to incorporate new structure, content, and indexing or 
access ideas.  Not just leave them as marginal notes, but evolve the 
system to take advantage of the additional material.

Larson feels that as the hypercritter gets *really* good and responsive to 
the needs of the user community, there won't be that many more suggested 
changes.  He is referring here more to a topical or informational hypertext 
system.

Several corporations are using MaxThink hypertext on a LAN with this 
kind of approach.  For domain information, litigation support, help desks, 
etc. They seem pretty happy with the results.  

Larson tends to put his money/programs where his mouth is.  He has created 
"HyBBS," a simple MS-DOS BBS program ($89) with a special call-in terminal 
program that allows users to call in and navigate the system links, put 
one-liner annotations directly on system nodes, including added links to 
their own comment screens, etc.  I set one up temporarily to see how it 
worked; it was addictive (as hypertext tends to be).  But I didn't have an 
extra PC and phone line to do more than let a few people play with it for 
a short time.

-Ernest Perez
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: guru@panasun (Gururaj Krishnan)
Subject: Hypertext links in OpenWindows "helpviewer"
Reply-To: guru@durgon.UUCP (Gururaj Krishnan)
Organization: Panasonic Factory Automation
Distribution: alt.hypertext
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:05:20 GMT

 Hi,

   I would like to know the commands and syntax for specifying hypertext links
   in the "Help Viewer" provided by OpenWindows 3.0. The man pages of the
   two commands "helpopen" and "helpviewer" mention that there is no
   documentation that talks about these hyperlinks.

   Any information would be appreciated.

   Thanks.


 -Raj

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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: chess@McRCIM.McGill.EDU ()
Subject: Comparision of Hypertext Systems available today 
Originator: chess@lightning
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:26:44 GMT


If anyone is aware of any articles that compare existing hypertext 
systems in the market today , please give some pointers.

I am interested in Hypertext systems for Mac, PC(DOS/OS2) or Sun .

Sandy 
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: ackerman@athena.mit.edu (Mark Ackerman)
Subject: Wanted:  hypertext Xt widget
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:08:11 GMT

Anyone know of an X-based hypertext widget?  I'd prefer the Athena widget
set and free (it's for research), but I'll take what I get.

A student of Walt Scacci's had one a few years back.  Does anyone know
what happened to it?

Thanks.

			Mark Ackerman
			("Ack")
			MIT/Center for Coordination Science
From: wargopl@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Peter L. Wargo)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Tables and Windows 3.1 Help Compiler
Summary: Anyone know how to get tables into Windows HTX?
Keywords: tables,windows,hc,hypertext
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:06:54 GMT
Organization: Clarkson University


Gack!  Here I finally get the ability to add tables to my Interleaf
documents, and I find that tables (in the RTF document format) are not
supported by the help compiler!

(BTW, this also applies to tables in an original Winweird 2.0 document.)

Is Microsoft Crazy?  Tables are a necessary component to most
documentation!

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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: "Ernest Perez" <demoep@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: electronic fictions wanted
Organization: Access Information Assoc., Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:21:44 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>FROM:   WESCHAP@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
>I am currently trying to develop a course on hypertext fictions (poetry
>included), and am looking for material.  Does anyone know of any out there
>that are available for such a course (either commerically, as shareware, or
>free for use with permission?  I know about pretty much everything offered by
>Eastgate Systems, Jim Rosenberg's Intergrams, Richard Gess's Mahasukha Halo,
>Stuart Moulthrop's Forking Paths and Chaos, the hyperfictions in the
>issue of Writing on the Edge on hypertext, and the hyperfictions in the latest
>issue of Perforations.  Can anybody suggest other sources?  . . . .

Take a good look at...

    Bolter, J. David.  _Writing space: the computer, hypertext, and the 
history of writing.  Hillsdale NJ, Lawrence Erlbaum, 1991.  Paperback.

Bolter gives a great sense of historical development of writing, and the 
different approaches, strengths, and contribution that each new technology 
has brought into play.  He looks at and emphasizes the possibilities that 
hypermedia brings to the table, and suggests the changes that will result.  
Bolter is in the Classics dept. at Univ. of N.C., and does a fine job of 
thoughtful analysis of the newest medium, complete with a broad view of 
the past experience of graphic communication media.  

At Hypertext '91 in San Antonio, George Landow absolutely raved about the 
book.  He held up a copy, as I recall, and said, "Everyone involved with 
hypertext has *got* to read this book!"

Bolter offers a freebie Mac hypertext version to purchasers of his book.

cheers,
ernest perez

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Access Information Associates
2183 Buckingham, Suite 106
Richardson TX 75081
214-530-4800
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From: hibbert@xanadu.com (Chris Hibbert)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: Xanadu EMail address
Summary: support@xanadu.com
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:38:25 GMT
Organization: Xanadu Operating Company

jdugger@lust.reed.edu (Jay Dugger) asked for Xanadu's email address.

You can reach me (Manager of Software Development) at
hibbert@xanadu.com, or if you forget my name you can send to
support@xanadu.com.

Chris
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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth)
Subject: Need info. on H-text pgm for the IBM PC
Keywords: pc hyper text
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:46:58 GMT

Hi :
I am looking for a program for the IBM PC family which will help me
implement a hypertext system. My first prefernce of course, is something
from the public domain.
Please reply directly.
Thanks in advance.

-Vipul Sheth

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: cavrak@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (Steve Cavrak)
Subject: Re: Some information
Originator: cavrak@kira.emba.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:08:47 GMT

From article <1992Sep5.122300.16797@sci.kun.nl>, by wgast9@sci.kun.nl
(Gasten uit Hongarije (Polman)):

  I need some information about hypertext, in general.
  I mean, some document about it. Could somebody tell
  me an ftp site from where I can get these information ?
 

 Here are some references -- the one by Jakob Nielsen is excellent !

Steve

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Title:          From Memex to hypertext : Vannevar Bush and the mind's machine

 Published:      Boston : Academic Press, c1991.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Title:          Hypertext/hypermedia handbook

 Published:      New York : Intertext Publications : McGraw-Hill, c1991.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Author:         Nielsen, Jakob
 Title:          Hypertext and hypermedia
 Published:      Boston : Academic Press, c1990.
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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: olafabbe@w251zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Olaf Schreck)
Subject: looking for a hypertext environment with a C/C++ interface for unix
Followup-To: thhafub1@mailszrz.tu-berlin.de
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:36:16 GMT

Can anyone please tell me if there is a GUI based Hypertext
environment with a C/C++ interface for SUN SPARC II, for HP
9000/360 or for SCO UNIX? I would also like to find a
Multimedia System that combines Hypertext with C++. Thank you
for your help. Please send replies to:
thhafub1@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de.
From: 6500topo@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Rabid Rat)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: Need info. on H-text pgm for the IBM PC
Keywords: pc hyper text
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:44:47 GMT

In article <sheth.716219218@walnut.cs.scarolina.edu> sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth) writes:

>Hi :
>I am looking for a program for the IBM PC family which will help me
>implement a hypertext system. My first prefernce of course, is something
>from the public domain.
>Please reply directly.
>Thanks in advance.

>-Vipul Sheth

I am quite interested too... Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? 
And what about FTP sites for the public domain soft? I'm also
interested in Unix/Sun OS software.

Thank u in advance

Paolo

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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Peter Purgathofer <purgi@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject: Desperately searching hypercard stack
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D4F0FA7F01B604@berlin.tuwien.ac.at>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12: 32:58 GMT
Organization: Institute for Assessment and Design of Technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:32:25 GMT

I am searching for a hypercard stack for an investigation about
navigational issues. I need a stack that 
* is stable enough to be used as the main test system
* is highly interconnected (well, hypertext)
* is not too large, not too small, (appr. 50-150 Cards)
* covers interesting themes (e.g. environmental issues)
* is of "general" interest
* is freeware or shareware
* has distinguishable card names (see below)
For example, the "celtic history" stack is a relatively good example, but
it is not interconnected enough and has lots of "page 3 of 6" kind of
cards (This is what the last point means...).

If you know of (or have actually developed) a stack that meets (some of)
the above creteria, please give me a note or post a reference. 

Thanx in advance,

Peter

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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: edf250y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Marks)
Subject: HyperPAD Question... Help Me Quickly!
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:33:19 GMT

I need know if there is any way to navigate to a HyperPAD page, etc
WITHOUT activating the script associated with that page.  I am trying
to develop a package that will construct local tracking maps for an
arbitary HyperPAD pad.  To this end, I need to be able to move around
a pad to obtain page names, button names, etc without activating any
scripts that may be present.  Am I flogging a dead horse, or is there
some way to do it?

This is urgent - answers yes or no ASAP will be most appreciated...

Thanks,

-- 
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Student Number: 11278056

Office: E2.07
From: cgk26737@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (C G Kolar)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Biology Hypercard stacks wanted.
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:42:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

The Cognitive Flexibility Laboratory at the University of Illinois
  Center for the Study of Reading is beginning work on a three-year
  NSF-sponsored project to enhance the use of multi-media educational
  technology in the teaching of the biological sciences. 

This project, like previous CFL studies, will involve hypertext-
  based instruction using Claris Hypercard v2.1.  We are currently
  in the early design stages and would be interested in seeing any
  existing stacks that are available via Anon FTP or other means.
  Of particular interest would be stacks dealing with the following:
     genetics, microbiology, biotechnology, ecology, and bioethics.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

--Chris
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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: instone@hydra.bgsu.edu (Keith Instone)
Subject: support tools
Organization: Bowling Green State University, Computer Science
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:01:03 GMT

I am looking for a reference from the hypertext literature, but I have
not been able to find it. Can anybody help me?

I vaguely remember reading a paper where the author stressed the importance
of the "support tools", I think s/he called them. You know, all of those
extra things that aren't REALLY hypertext, but you can't get around
without them. Like history lists, node marking, paths, guided tours, 
searching, etc. I can't even remember the point of the paper, just that
it talks about support tools.

Maybe I am missing several papers on this topic; I welcome any pointers
you may give me. I have checked my paper & electronic files to no avail.
Even my "Hypertext & Hypermedia" has failed me on this one (first time
ever!).

Or maybe I just dreamt about reading it........

Thanks in advance.
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