HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ericbi@microsoft.com (Eric Bidstrup)
Subject: Re: info on bumpershoot and ell wanted
Date: 01 Sep 92 14:33:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Seatle,Califoria
Summary: Bumbershoot 92

In article <mike.715294892@bcserv>, mike@bcserv.wustl.edu () writes:
> 
> If anyone has any info on the Electric off the Ell or the Bumpershoot
> Music festival please e-mail it too me 

Time for my yearly public service Bumbershoot announcment:
Bumbershoot 92 main acts:
Fri 9/4:Stumpy Joe, Robert Cray, Spin Doctors
Sat 9/5:Bela Fleck & the Flecktones (2 shows!), John Mayall & bluesbreakers
        Tracy Nelson, Little Feat
Sun 9/6:Joan Armatrading, John Hammond, Crazy 8's, George Benson,
        Bobcat Goldwaith
Mon 9/7:Michelle Shocked, John Lee Hooker, Tower of Power, They
        might be giants, Sadhappy, Queen Latifah

Note that all of these acts are playing at different shows, but
all in the Seattle Center. Call (206)441-FEST for more info.
Note that there are many, many more acts than I am listing,
just listed the "big name" acts from my subjective point of view.

I am planning on taping Spin Doctors, Bela Fleck & John Mayall
for those interested in tapes.

-Eric Bidstrup
...or his evil twin...
From: nl19+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nathan Tait Lapierre)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: re: Deadicated II
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:16:34 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

All of the jokes were funny,  but I'd really like to see Bela Fleck and
the Flecktones do either a Help->Slip->Frank or even a really killer,
smokin' banjo Dark Star->dRuMz->Space->Dark Star.  Now that would be
incredible.

Does anyone out there have any Bela Fleck and the Flecktones shows?
I'd be happy to trade...
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: rrk@pi.rice.edu (Ramakrishnan Rajamony)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Trouble with the Allman Brothers Hotline :-(
Keywords: allman brothers, hotline
Date: 27 Aug 1992 18:30:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Originator: rrk@pi.rice.edu

Hi,

Sometime back, the Allman Bros hotline number was posted on the net - 
(312) 227-2177.

Ever since, I've been trying to get that number with no success. I must have
called at least 20 times - widely spaced calls on different days, and the
number is either engaged or no one picks it up when it rings - even after 20+
rings.

Did anyone else have the same problem? All I'm looking for is a tour itenerary.

-Ram Rajamony.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: fer the birds...
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 18:32:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.163315.22454@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>Brian sez:

What Brian Sez!



>really the best advice is: abstinance makes the heart grow fonder.

But Lara, it's so unnatural! It would solve the population problem
wouldn't it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: siskind@eos4.larc.nasa.gov (David Siskind)
Subject: Re: more Scary Deadicated II thought
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:15:25 GMT

In article <ncovey.714755936@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neil covey) writes:
>Okay I'll play too.  
>I like Johnny Cash, but can we get him to do Victim
>or the Crime?
>
>Sir Mixalot--Brown-eyed Women
>
>Metallica--Unbroken Chain 
>
>Liza Minnelli--Estimated Prophet
>
>Ugly Kid Joe--Althea
>
>Sister Souljah--You Don't Have to Ask
>
>Van Halen--I Will Take You Home
>
>Frank Sinatra--Deal->Cassidy


Madonna- Sugar Magnolia
	With an associated MTV video of her fondling herself during the
line "We can discover the wonders of nature, rolling in the rushes down
by the riverside"

Just a suggestion....
David Siskind
From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Austin Arrogance
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep4.201115.9254
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


  Wharfie- if you got to take a cheap shot, you're already whipped!
Last spring an eagle, (golden), came up off a road kill a few miles
west of here and obliterated the windshield of a semi.  My ol' buddy
LaVern took the wrecker call to tow the truck in since the Wyoming
Highway Patrol wouldn't let him drive in to town with out a wind-
shield.  LaVern asked the trucker what happened and after hearing 
his story, LaVern inquired about the eagle's well being.  The trucker
said, "Why don't you walk over and ask him?"  LaVern walked around
the truck and there the yellow eyed son of a bitch was, standing in
the bar ditch, pissed as hell!  All them brave sons a bitches with
guns standing around and nobody would go near him :-):-):-)  When 
brother eagle was tired of hanging around us goddamn humans, he flew 
off.
    "Possum- possum- possum- POSSUM!"
    "One man gathers what another man spills."
DEAD PHISH?  YOU BE THE JUDGE!
       (I know what you're thinking Wharfie- HORSESHIT!- snappy answer)
And kids, that's what happens to people when you don't get to enough
Dead Shows!  The next time someone tells you to sell your tickets and
stay home and pay the bills, just say, "F*CK THAT SH*T!"
  'Scuze me- since I have no home and no job, I have plenty of time
to collect needed items for Hurricane Relief.

                           eagle
                      rebel@outlaw.uwyo.edu
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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Organization: NY home for wayward dats
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:54:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.043735.16271@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu
(Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.013406.16922@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>
>I wrote:
>>>>|Give credit where credit is due- Abbey Hoffman (R.I.P<R.I.P.> coined this
>>>>|phrase and it was still the '80s when he said it. I believe his phrase
>>>>|was "under 30", but that was nearly 10 years ago.
>Todd Brown Wrote:
>>>>You have just proved that you are under 20.
>>>>
>I Wrote:
>>>Your logic completely escapes me, especially because your conclusion is
>>>wrong.
>>
>You Wrote:
>>Well, if you were much over 20, you'd know the phrase is somewhat
>>older than that.  Do you remember the 60's?  (If you do, then you
>>weren't there :-)
>>
>Yeah right, He said "over 30" first then "under 30" later...the point 
>I was making was that Abbey Hoffman said it first, that it isn`t
>a new "battlecry of the 90s" ...except around here lately. I think
>I've mentioned my age in other postings here before but the
>real point is this:

You said that Abbie Hoffman said the phrase "Don't trust anyone over
30" in the 80's.  Todd Brown's point was that you therefore probably
weren't old enough to remember when he coined the phrase, back in the
60's.

> Condecension and speculation about age <and therefore what? Rank?> is
> a pretty serious turn-off no matter how old you are.

I don't care how old you are, I'm just in favor of accuracy in
general, and I don't object to amusing ways of pointing out
inaccuracy; for instance, somebody recently cross-posted a question
"How should I dispose of empty paint cans" to misc.consumers (correct)
and rec.food.drink (incorrect).  Rather than flaming him for the
crosspost, somebody "answered" him with a recipe :-)

> Perhaps some of
> this doesn't have anything to do with age, I get the impression that
> it's more like a personal thing that *some* people have with me around
> here.

If there's a net.war going on, the winner (in my opinion) is the one
who's the most amusing; anyone who's boring is an automatic loser.

"Useless? USELESS??? There's no such thing as a useless flamewar, just an
*unentertaining* flamewar." -- M Holmes, in alt.peeves

>  If you're going
> to wage a campaign against someone on the group, be honest at least
> about what you're doing, instead of pretending to invoke the authority
> of your venerable rank and privledge.

One of the nice things about this form of anarchy is that nobody has
any rank or privelege with respect to anybody else, except what the
other person _chooses_ to accord.  (With the exception of people from
the same site, or otherwise connected in the real_world, but that's a
small fraction of the total connections.)  Someone who does something
useful (like maintains a faq) or who makes interesting and informative
postings will be granted appropriate respect by the readers.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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From: mparisi@ripple.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Parisi)
Subject: Re: Best Tapes
Reply-To: mparisi@ripple.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Parisi)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:05:15 GMT


Mark Charalambous writes:
>> How many other VHS-media people are out there?

at least one :-)

sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug26.234521.21559@vicorp.com> mc@vicorp.com
> (Mark Charalambous) writes:
> 
> >Better yet, for the price and sound quality VHS fi-fi (or Beta hi-fi) simply
> >can't be beat!
> 
> PCM is better, for the same tape price (but more hardware).  There's
> almost always some 60/120 Hz hum when playing the hi-fi signal.

OK, I'll bite -- can you still get PCM hardware for use with a VCR?  what does
it cost, and what are the specs?  I thought it was only 14 bits and not the 
16 bits of CD.  

If things are working right (get a good deck, buy good tape) there may be some
60/120 Hz hum, but it is down about 80dB.  After one analog generation it
is buried in the noise.  Besides, any live music I've heard has had more
hum coming from the stage.  

BTW, I think VHS Hi-Fi has better specs than Beta Hi-Fi.

> >At less than $5 per tape you get 6 hours worth. The sound is comparable to CD.
> >Really. No hiss either. No messy NR systems.
> 
> The sound isn't quite as good as CD (I guess that's a comparison :-)

You're probably right, but it's pretty close.  I'd be interested to hear
comparisons made from demanding live music recorded simultaneously onto
VHS Hi-Fi and CD (or DAT, preferably at the CD sampling rate).  Otherwise, 
the best test I can think of is...

> Try making 12 generations of VHS hi-fi and see if you can hear a
> difference.

I've been meaning to do this for a while.  Maybe now I'll get around to 
actually doing it.
--
			-- Mark Parisi (mparisi@ripple.jpl.nasa.gov)
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: TDK bashing
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:33:21 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Sep1.131257.16891@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
>Hmmm. Interesting to see the TDK bashing going on because my experience
>with many different brands of tapes (extensive, I think) has led me to
>the conclusion that TDK SA-X is the best tape I've ever used - bar
>none.  I have *never* *never* had a TDK tape fuck up, but have had a
>(small) number of Maxell XL tapes get chewed, eaten, whatever - but
>this was a fault of the deck I was using at the time. Thing is, my
>faulty deck didn't chew any of my TDKs! Very sturdy mechanism, plus
>superior sound overall. Also, as a testament to the durability of TDKs,
>I have tapes that are 20 years old and they play just as fine today as
>they did then.  Certainly can't say that about all the Scotch and
>Memorex tapes I wasted money on. All of those have long since turned to
>trash. And, yes my old Maxell tapes play just fine too. Both TDK and
>Maxell make fine tapes. I just give the slight edge to TDK.  Where I
>live, TDKs sell for the same price as Maxells, so that's no
>consideration to my preference for TDKs.
>
What he said...

George Lambert
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:01:55 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

(Bill Ralston) writes:
>(Matt Brown) writes: 
>>You are absolutely right about the diversity.  It is detrimental in manyways.
>>In r.m.gd we have a bit of intolerence brought on in part by the diversity.
>>We have instances of minor differences turning to verbal brawls. I am glad
>>to see more people appreciate the Dead, but if everybody gets on the bus,
>>the bus gets too crowded, and some of the peace and freedom departs (Shit,
>>I almost put a "most of us" in there again. Thanks, Steve).
>
>I think you've hit a real problem on the head.  Sounds like you're saying 
>the Dead scene was really nice until we had to share it with too many 
>people (and hence the diversity).  BUT - I don't agree that "if too many 
>people get on the bus" that it is necessary follows that ...peace and freedom departs".  Granted, it does too frequently work like that in this country.  The first folks in the"club"think they have the right to keep others out so it can stay the same. Tha

Actually, what I meant is that the scene changes, and that the earliest
participants don't always appreciate it, and that when a room gets crowded,
everybody in it has less personal space.  That doesn't mean I want to lock
the doors and keep a selected group out. It's just a reflection of reality
Some people get rejected on mail order.  Some people have to sit next to
Porsche Guys or Delta Delta Delta girls or Touchheads or old crusty stubborn
assholes.  That's life in a diverse population. Also note I said "some" peace
and freedom, not all.

>t's like Bush saying "sorry, the USA is full, no more Haitians, no Croatian refugees, no more Blacks..." - it ain't right.  Unfortunately, trying to exclude others so that a subset can enjoy a special privilege (like seeing the Dead) is really agains
>principles of freedom this country was built on.

I agree with you, and I wasn't suggesting exclusion on any basis (other than
venue size).  Perhaps as we realize how diverse the Deadhead mix has become,
some of us can better understand why there is so much tension elsewhere.
The original "portrait of a Deadhead" contained a great deal of "live and let
live" attitude.  This was easier when the scene was an enclave.  As the scene
becomes more diverse, more tolerance is needed.  I think it would be positive
if we could remember to spread some of that original attitude through our
actions, maybe setting an example for new folks.

That doesn't mean that flaming or showing an asshole the error of his ways
after application of the deadhead ethic has failed is wrong.  Just don't
do it on an extended basis for its own sake or as a hobby. An energetic
disagreement, with colorful language, can make most enjoyable reading, unless
it gets vicious.  Corrective instruction of a public nuisance can also be
rewarding, when applied judiciously.

Matt
A whole loaf is better than a kick in the head - R. Hunter
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Organization: NY home for wayward dats
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.035335.10772@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.003715.21885@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>>
>>
>>me> The new battle cry of the 90's "Don't Trust Anyone Under 30???"
>>
>>todd>Under 40:-)
>>
>>
>>quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>>|Give credit where credit is due- Abbey Hoffman (R.I.P<R.I.P.> coined this
>>|phrase and it was still the '80s when he said it. I believe his phrase
>>|was "under 30", but that was nearly 10 years ago.
>>
>>You have just proved that you are under 20.
>>
>Your logic completely escapes me, especially because your conclusion is
>wrong.

Well, if you were much over 20, you'd know the phrase is somewhat
older than that.  Do you remember the 60's?  (If you do, then you
weren't there :-)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: deadhead reference on misc.jobs.offered!
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:13:09 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep2.122443.5925@samba.oit.unc.edu> elessar@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Shawn Mehan) writes:
>|> >        Tandem Computers has a corporate committment to the principle

	I saw a tshirt that had two skeletons pedaling a bicycle built
for two.  Over them it said "Tandem Deadheads", and under them it said
"...and the music never stops!"

	(Tandem builds fault-tolerant Unix boxes)
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: GDH #205 - 8/27/72 :-)
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:59:16 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Just a suggestion ....

If you have not heard this 8/27/72 show, and have an opportunity to tape
David's program, DO SO ! The Playin In The Band & Greatest Story Ever Told
feature Jerry Garcia playing guitar as one posessed :) Personally, I'm very
excited to have a copy of this from whatever David's sources are, though my
tapes are ok, this is sure to be an upgrade quality wise !

YAHOOOO !

Subject: Grateful Dead Hour #205
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:15:21 GMT

Grateful Dead Hour no. 205
Week of August 24, 1992


Part 1  26:47
                  In cue: <music>
     :00     :37  Opening
     :37    3:04  Grateful Dead 8/27/72 Veneta, Oregon
                  PROMISED LAND
    3:41    4:46  DEAL
    8:27    6:33  BLACK-THROATED WIND
   15:00    5:57  BERTHA
   20:57    5:35  JACK STRAW
   26:32     :15  ID
                  Out cue: ...when the Grateful Dead Hour continues.

   26:47    1:03  Music bed for local announcements
   27:50     :04  Pause

Part 2  25:22
                  In cue: And now, here are some scenes from next week's...
   27:54     :40  Introduction
   28:34    3:02  Bob Dylan, Down in the Groove (Columbia OC 40957, 1988)
                  SILVIO
   31:36   15:40  Grateful Dead 8/27/72 Veneta, Oregon
                  PLAYING IN THE BAND
   47:16    5:38  GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD
   52:54     :22  Outro
                  Out cue: and I'll meet you back here next week.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: setlist
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:21:00 GMT

Ivo Kamber writes:

|compare the two setlists i found on two different records. both claim to be 
|shows recorded on 8/13/1975.

|One From The Vault:
|Intro
|...
|Blues for allah
|
|Make Believe Ballroom (TAKRL 2979  BOOTLEG):
|Help on the Way / Slipknot / Franklin's tower
|The music never stopped
|Eyes of the world / Stronger than dirt or milking the roses
|It must have been the roses
|Round and round
|Sugaree
|I'm gonna sit right here until i die
|Perhaps the other one / going down the road feeling bad
|
|Who is right? Two shows on this day?

Not a flame, but this is a pretty riduculous query. Since Make Believe
Ballroom is a BOOTLEG (just as stated), how can you expect it to have
the correct setlist? Besides, the lists you present are almost identical.
Make Believe Ballroom is the name of the bootleg, not a venue, and the show
in question is the same show as One From The Vault, GAMH 8/13/75.

-Jeff Lester
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: wac@world.std.com (william a colbert)
Subject: Re: Tape ID
Summary: 7-25-82
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:56:00 GMT

In article <17eradINNnck@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> talcott@cats.ucsc.edu (Joel B Talcott) writes:
>
>Can someone ID this tape for me? I got it from a friend awhile ago and never got around to getting the exact date. All I got was that it was in Tempe in the summer of 1982. It's definitely a second set. 
>Scarlet/Fire
>Sampson
>Crazy Fingers
>Estimated Prophet
>D/S
>NFA
>Black Peter
>Good Lovin
>What was the encore?
>Thank You, Get Well Jerry continue smoking pot stop smoking cigs.
>Joel
>

Hey Joel,
	This Tape is 7-25-82 Compton Terrace Amph.,Tempe, AZ
The Encore was Don't Ease.



Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:15:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.155312.190338@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi) writes:
>>
>You people actually had a discussion of "Wild in the Streets?" going on
>here!?!?
>Strange.
>Peace, Laura (in quite the weird mood today....)

Must be from thinking about 'Wild In The Streets" :-)


"Why don't we d,do it in the road"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>dtodd@well.sf.ca.us            / | \                               <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mparisi@ripple.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Parisi)
Subject: DAT versus VHS versus Donna
Reply-To: mparisi@ripple.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Parisi)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:19:35 GMT


In article <3578@unisql.UUCP>, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.141901.8482@vicorp.com> mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous) writes:
> >   I'm very happy with VHS and encourage other tapes to use this format.
> 
> 	But you're also the guy that thinks Donna sucks.
> 
> 	:-) :-) :-) :-)
> 

Wow!  A correlation!  Do all of us VHS Hi-Fi users think Donna sucks?
(Or are we all just named Mark?)

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
--
			-- Mark Parisi (mparisi@ripple.jpl.nasa.gov)
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: On the Road with Neil
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:56:12 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Sep3.001319.6033@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>
>BTW, George, are you going to all the shows or
>just the Fri/Sat ones?  How about the Arco Arena shows?
>
Well, it was a tough decision, but I passed on the opportunity to see the
schlockmeister to do some really important things: laundry, sweeping the
driveway, and walking my dogs on the beach.  Maybe next time.  Enjoy the
tapes.

George Lambert
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: WYO Safe!
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:46:16 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Distribution: usa
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep1.192354.26665@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>              STOP BUYING BLACK HILLS GOLD!!!!

	Don't some of the local Native American artisans work in Black
Hills Gold?
From: garry@alice.att.com (garry hodgson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Lithuanian shirt investigation
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:16:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23564
Reply-To: garry@alice.UUCP ()
Organization: AT&T, Bell Labs

In article <1992Aug26.231618.3859@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu writes:
   Isn't it time, since we're asking what the Dead represent, that we also ask
   where the money is going from the $33 t-shirts. Does anyone know the
   breakdown on the income from these sales? What percentage goes to the
   Lithuanians? Is there even a Lithuanian National Team in existence now that
   the Olympics are over?  What was the cost of producing the shirts? Who was the
   artist, how much of the income is she/he receiving? In short, what percentage
   of the income is GDMS profit pure and simple? I'd pay $13 for one and that's
   high for a basketball shirt. $33.00 is a g o u g e  until someone can
   demonstrate otherwise.

If you don't want to pay $33, don't buy the shirt.
What's the big deal?

-- 
Garry Hodgson			A slow winter day
AT&T Bell Labs			A night like forever
garry@alice.att.com		Sink like a stone
att!alice!garry			Float like a feather
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