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From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: HELP: how to kill a stopped 'tar' job?
Keywords: 8mm Tape RS/6000
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:07:02 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

rick@groo.msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran) writes:
>eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:

>|> If you are on 3.2.0, it is a bug in the tape device driver.  Call software
>|> support and get a fix.  I did, and everything's fine now.

>As near as one can determine from Defect Support's APAR descriptions, this
>appears to be IX21746.

The only defect (33241) associated with this apar was cancelled over a
year ago

33241: ix21746  SIGNAL CAUSES TAPE DRIVER TO HANG
PMR: 9x492,293,000 created  91/07/25

SYSTEM CALLS TO TAPE DRIVE ON CERTAIN OCCASIONS (READ, WRITE,
IOCTL) DON'T RETURN TO USER APPLICAT ION.  A KILL -9 OF THE
PROCESS FAILED TO TERMINATED THE PROCESS.  THE TAPE IS IN
AN UNUSABLE STATE AT THIS TIME, THE DRIVER IS HUNG WAITING
FOR THE I/O TO BE COMPLETED (PRESUMABLY).

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 FICA doesn't help the poor.  It mostly goes to old people with incomes >$40k.
From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: sendmail and NIS managed aliases problem
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:48:50 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

mcguire@selway.umt.edu (Charles J McGuire) writes:
>mcr@csi.on.ca (Michael Richardson) writes:
>>curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com writes:
>>>mcr@csi.on.ca (Michael Richardson) writes:

>>  Sure there is, don't read the group list for root. 

If we did this, wouldn't we be nonstandard in the industry?
Isn't that what people bitch about most often with AIX, (for 
	example qdaemon.)

So you're advocating we never read root's grouplist?  Or just don't
read it when no NIS server can be found? (which means your login
would hang for 1 minute and then work, and then what would you do
if the NIS server came back halfway through the login, etc.....)

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just asking...

What would YOU do?  How would YOU solve these problems?

>>  I am pretty sure I have been able to login as root when NIS is dead
>>on a 3.2 machine, btw. 

>Not true, at least from my 3.2 machines. The only way I can have root
>login is if there's not + in /etc/group.

Exactly.  Industry standard behaviour I believe.
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 FICA doesn't help the poor.  It mostly goes to old people with incomes >$40k.
From: dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: aXe 3.0.1
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:35:09 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <jhardin.715460987@stat.tamu.edu>, jhardin@stat.tamu.edu (James Hardin) writes:
>
>  Well, I apologize. Apparently I am too paranoid for my own good.
>Usually, when I obtain a package, I make it in a temp directory
>and run it there (not as root) to make sur eit works before I install
>it. I thought that the only thing I needed to take care of was to 
>copy the Axe.ad to the /.../app-defaults directory and I would be
>able to run it. I asked a lot of questions when it did not work
>for me. Apparently, there are others like me, so ... All I had
>to do was to make install after the make and the program ran fine.
>It depended not only on the Axe.ad file, but also on all of the .help 
>files that are included with the package. So, if you were having
>the same trouble I did with aXe segmentation faults upon invocation, 
>this may be the answer.

this is odd, since I have mine on a network machine, and the net does
not have these help files (my office machine does).  It works on both.

If someone else is still having trouble with this nifty little editor, 
especially with core dumps on closing, try this fix that the author gave
to me to get it up on my linux machine at home.  I don't know why it
worked, but it sure is stable now:

Subject: Re: aXe-3.0.1
Reply-To: J.K.Wight@newcastle.ac.uk

> If you can come up with a fix for linux, I'd love to hear about it.

This is just an empirical shot in the dark, but it might be worth a try.

In Destroy in FileNom.c try moving the line

    XtDestroyWidget(Child(fnw,filename));

to the top of the list of similar calls.


-- 
Sincerely,

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Christmas-Saucon Hall #14, rm 211        
Department of Mathematics

Lehigh University                   Telephone: 215-758-3759 (office)
From: ahsu@akira.anatomy.upenn.edu (Kaneda-Akira's Defender)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Displaying occurances of NFS write errors
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:33:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi there,

I'm running an RS/6000 320 and a diskless 220, both under 3.2.1 and xdm.
My problem is that I seem to be getting frequent NFS write errors, but
I never see them unless I shut down the X server and xdm. Is there a way
that I can get these and other console messages to be written to a file
of something?  I've tried using the "swcons" command but I don't seem to
be getting the messages redirected to the file I specify in the swcons
command.  Thanks for any help...

--> Andrew Hsu
ahsu@akira.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: konopik@konopik.austin.ibm.com (Brad Konopik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: tigetstr and tgoto in AIX 3.2
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:30:23 GMT
Organization: IBM AIX Porting Center, Austin

In article <9208130305.AA34943@cs90code.csv-tgsc.amex-trs.com> gonzalod@amex-trs.com (Gonzalo Diethelm) writes:
>
>
>Distribution: world
>
>What in heavens are tigetstr and tgoto? It looks like they are functions
>defined in curses or termcap or termlib, but I don't seem to find them
>anywhere in /lib or /usr/lib. If they don't exist in AIX 3.2, what
>would be a reasonable replacement? Thanks and regards.

Bingo !  They are from the "termcap compatibility" routines from the 
curses library.  They are hiding in the shared object in /lib/libcurses.a

Issue:
  nm /lib/libcurses | egrep 'tgetstr|tgoto'

(NOTE: I found tgetstr, not tigetstr ... possible typo ??)

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From: konopik@konopik.austin.ibm.com (Brad Konopik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: vi (and other editors) hanging on ptys (and ttys)
Keywords: vi hang ttys ptys
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:30:24 GMT
Organization: IBM AIX Porting Center, Austin

In article <1992Aug31.202808.8084@versyss.com> keithd@versyss.UUCP (Keith Doyle) writes:
>My understanding of an "apar" is that it is a report of a bug, which
>ultimately will result in some kind of a fix such as a "ptf".  Also,
>that normally what you order are "ptf"'s, not "apars" as "apars" do
>not fix anything.  When I tried to order the previous "apars", the
>rep had to look them up and find out what the associated "ptf"'s were.
>Granted, apars may result in a list of ptfs that fix the problem, and
>perhaps therefore apars are more concise in referencing the appropriate
>ptfs, but I got the definate impression that it is ptfs that you "order".
>
>Am I missing something in the procedure here?
>
>Keith
>(direct any mail to "versyss!keithd@netcom.com".  Don't use rn's "R" if you 
>want it to be able to find me.)

Pretty close, Keith...you missed a couple states.  PTFs are what ultimately
get ordered, but there are intermediate states before a bug results in a
PTF.

  Customer call:   -> PMR -> APAR -> CMVC "defect" -> PTF

  Internal report: -> CMVC "defect" -> APAR/PTF

The bug Rich mentioned has reached the CMVC "defect" stage and has a code 
fix dropped, but has not been built or packaged as a PTF yet.  If you call
defect support, they can put you on a list of folks waiting for that APAR.
When the PTF pops out, you will get it.

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From: mtimm@auk.UWaterloo.ca (Martin Timmerman)
Subject: Need graPHIGS example program
Originator: mtimm@auk.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:52:01 GMT

We have a user that is in need of an example FORTRAN program that
creates an image on an RS/6000 Model 220 with a Gt1 graphics card. The
program should use the graPHIGS library.  Does anyone have such a
program to share?
From: metaylor@VNET.IBM.COM (Mark E Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Sample AIX Network Interface Drivers?
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:11:44 GMT
Reply-To: metaylor@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Laboratories

Robert Macomber writes:
>Does anybody know where I might find some example code for
>an AIX Network Interface Driver (i.e., en_if, tr_if)?  The
>regular AIX documentation and the Berkeley source provide
>*almost* enough information to put together an AIX-ish
>version. but sadly not *quite* enough information.

Have you got a copy of "Writing a Device Driver for AIX 3.2" (GG24-3629)?
It comes with a diskette of source code, including a Network Interface
Device Driver. It looks like it's essentially the source for the
if_en driver (slightly stripped and generalised).
You can order the book from your IBM rep. There's lots of other good
stuff in the book for device driver writers.

Mark E Taylor
AIX Solution Engineering Services
IBM UK Laboratories, Hursley, England

Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: claym@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com
Subject: Re: stopping busy network adapters   (3.1.5)
Organization: IBM PS Programming, Palo Alto
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:22:50 GMT

In article <199208272057.AA15623@cc.ysu.edu> MWE@IB.RL.AC.UK (Mike Ellwood) writes:
>If one needs to change the parameters of a network adapter/interface,
>with smit/chdev, it usually responds that it's busy so you can't.
>
>I know you can use the -P option to commit to the database, then
>shutdown and re-ipl, but is there ANY way one can make such
>devices unbusy?        (clean and painless way I mean).
>
>Thankyou.
>(mwe@ib.ac.rl.uk)
>
>(I know in the case of an Ethernet adapter, one can also 'remove' it
> and start from scratch, which is also a bit drastic, though at
> least saves an IPL; I'm not sure if this works with x.25s.)

Before I change any ODM attributes on a network device, I always say:

	# ifconfig <interface name> down detach

Then I'm able to change the attributes without the busy message.


-------------
Usual disclaimers apply

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From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: Help Needed - program SIGKILLing itself
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:37:49 GMT

I have a program which receives data from stdin and uses it to update
the AIX password database using setpwdb, setuserdb, putuserattr,
putgroupattr, and all those nice things.  However, after a while
of this processing, it just stops dead, saying "Killed".

Running it via dbx says it's receiving signal 9.  But I'm the only user
and I'm not sending it...

So I ran an error log and there are a number of records that look like this:

ERROR_ID TIMESTAMP  T CL RESOURCE_NAME  ERROR_DESCRIPTION
C5C09FFA 0831102692 P S  SYSVMM         SOFTWARE PROGRAM ABNORMALLY TERMINATED

...presumably once for each time I'm creating this error.

So I guess my questions are:

1) Where is this documented?
2) What does it mean?
3) How do I fix it?

Any help would be appreciated!

-- Murray S. Kucherawy ----------------------------------------+--------------
Software Systems Co-op, Math Faculty Computing Facility [MFCF] | This is a
University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada                        | machine that
E-mail: mskucherawy@{math,watdragon}.UWaterloo.ca              | goes PING!
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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: setgid permission on directories
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:31:01 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
To: carol@phoenix.oise.on.ca


[Also posted.]

In article <1992Aug31.171507.10029@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> you write:
>
> I just transferred a bunch of files from an RT using 
>
> remsh remote_sys "tar cf - /home" | tar xf -
>
> and all the directories were restored with permission rwxr-sr-x.  Can
> anyone tell me why this happened?

`setgid' permission on directories is propagated to subdirectories when
they are created.

> More importantly now, does setgid permission for a directory actually
> do anything?

Any file created in a `setgid' directory will by default have the same
group as the directory itself.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: FTP, etc running very slowly!
From: graeme@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz ( Graeme Moffat)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:34:19 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

ccvj@misty.latrobe.edu.au (Vicki Jordan) writes:

>>Usually you'll get several hundred errors like this:
>>
>>  ERROR_ID TIMESTAMP  T CL RESOURCE_NAME  ERROR_DESCRIPTION
>>  DB3E3DFD 0825030792 P H  ent0           CSMA/CD LAN COMMUNICATIONS LOST
>>  ABB81CD5 0825030792 T H  ent0           COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL ERROR
>>per day (or hour).  This is definitely a sign that something is wrong.
>>Speaking of which, I get these under 3.2 with the above hardware, even

Have you thought of running a TDR or something on your cabling? I don't
think you can blame IBM unless it happens to be a flakey card.

An aside: we were experiencing bad nfs performance under 3.1, and back in
February I asked for card upgrades - we got them a week ago!  Since then
we've bought another RS6000 so we're one short, of course!

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From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Getting sendmail to be sane?  Can't be done.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:42:45 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to david@penndrls.upenn.edu:
>What magic incantation do I need to put into the AIX 3.2 sendmail.cf file
>that comes with 3.2 in order to get it to accept mail as an MX host?

Try this one:

   "rm -f /usr/lib/sendmail"

Then install Smail 3.1.26.  You won't be sorry.
-- 
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   "Do Rush place weird subliminal backmasked messages in their songs to
 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
Xref: sparky comp.unix.aix:9158 comp.windows.x:15749
From: paw@coos.dartmouth.edu (Pat Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.windows.x
Subject: AIX 3.2 + MIT R4 xinit not finding colors
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:01:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Project NORTHSTAR
Originator: paw@coos.dartmouth.edu

I'd expect this to be a FAQ, but maybe we're the only bunch stubborn
enough to try to run the MIT X11R4 xinit and twm with the AIX 3.2 (R4) 
server.

Anyway,  most of it seems to work, but I'm not getting colors - the
message is "color name not defined in server database".  rgb.txt, .pag,
and .dir are all happily in /usr/lib/X11.  "showrgb" spits out a
lot of valid stuff.

Hints, please?  Has anyone run across this before?

Thanks.

-- 
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Systems Manager, Project NORTHSTAR
paw@northstar.dartmouth.edu
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From: wesselak@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak)
Subject: 3.2 upgrade questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:12:34 GMT

Our lab is experiencing the pleasure of upgrading aix from 3.1 to 3.2.
After the process, though, we noticed a few unpleasant things that some-
one out there may have some information about:

      Examining the mounts under smit shows a duplicate filesystem that
      doesn't want to be removed

      The servers allow no remote NFS mounts

      The csh and make binaries have mysteriously disappeared (there may
      be others we have not noticed)

      The /etc/resolv.conf file becomes altered

Any info is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

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From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: AIX bug report - putuserattr()
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:25:25 GMT

Well, my recent posts about putuserattr() and related calls have
resulted in a full-blown AIX bug report.  The AIX centre in Austin, TX
is now handling the problem and will be releasing a bug fix as soon
as possible.

Thanks to all those who helped me out.

-- Murray S. Kucherawy ----------------------------------------+--------------
Software Systems Co-op, Math Faculty Computing Facility [MFCF] | This is a
University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada                        | machine that
E-mail: mskucherawy@{math,watdragon}.UWaterloo.ca              | goes PING!
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From: hesse@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (BJ Cameron - DCS)
Subject: Re: Can't send a break signal to a serial line defined as /dev/lp1
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:09:26 GMT

From article <1992Aug31.043606.17396@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com>, by konopik@konopik.austin.ibm.com (Brad Konopik):
> In article <1196@curly.appmag.com> pa@curly.appmag.com (Pierre Asselin) writes:
>>In <Brt9G2.IAD@watserv1.waterloo.edu>
>>hesse@watserv1.waterloo.edu (BJ Cameron - DCS) writes:
>>
>>>if(ioctl(ttyf, TCSBRK, 0) < 0 )
>>>           perror("Can't send BREAK: ");
>>
>>>If the backend file is /dev/lp1 the error is returned.  If the backend file
>>>is /dev/tty0 a BREAK signal is transmitted.
>>

(A bunch of stuff about "what a break signal is" and confussion over serial and parallel deleted)

Gee Brad, you just get back from vacation? :) I posted this back in July.  I guess I should have posted a followup with the answer received from Rich Coe via mail.
He suggested:

 /* push the posix line discipline */
ioctl(fd, TXADDCD, "posix");
ioctl(fd, TCSBRK, 0);
     /* pop the posix line discipline */
ioctl(fd, TXDELCD, "posix");

>>>Any ideas?
> 
> When using a serial printer, you are normally talking to the serial printer
> line discipline...not the posix line discipline.  The TCSBRK and TCSBREAK
> support are in the posix line discipline.  You're outta luck.
> 

I tried the above and it works fine; it allows sending a break signal over a 
serial line defined as /dev/lp1.  Hope this helps anyone else trying to print
through a modem or other communication device.

Bri
From: losburn@teal.csn.org (Lynn Osburn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Our srcmstr is all screwed up!
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:22:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <syscrc.714767154@gsusgi1.gsu.edu> syscrc@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Randy Carpenter) writes:
>Somehow, on our Modle 320 running AIX 3.2, we have two srcmstr processes
>running.  There used to be only one.  Also, the "lssrc -a" command times out
>and gives the following message:
>
>   0513-056 Timeout waiting for command response.
>
>We can't figure it out what's the problem?
>(thanks ahead of time.)

Multiple resource controllers are a symptom when you are trying to write to
non-existant serial devices.  This can happen if/when your 64-port controller
goes south or is misconfigured, as well as if you have a missing or part-time 
console device.  

The major bummer is that without the srcmstr, you can't do a normal shutdown,
ergo, you end up at some point powering down and hoping for the best...

--oz
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From: mohans@caterina.Eng.Sun.COM ()
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.internals
Subject: Papers/References on IBM's JFS needed...
Date: 27 Aug 1992 18:37:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mohans@caterina.Eng.Sun.COM ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: caterina


I'm looking for references that describe the design of IBM's Journaling
File System (JFS).

Have there been Paper(s)/(Publicly available) Reports published on JFS ? 
Can some kind soul point me to these ? If something is available online that 
is ftp'able/e-mail'able, that would be good too !

Please send me e-mail at mohan.srinivasan@sun.com. I don't read these
these news groups frequently.

thanks

mohan srinivasan
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From: joann@ariadne.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Need help making tape drive "Available" after "Defining"
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:10:32 GMT
Reply-To: joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
Organization: SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center)

In article <95@jassys.UUCP>, tony@jassys.UUCP (Tony Holden) writes:
|> logan@tms.portal.com (Michael Logan) writes:
|> > 
|> >     # mkdev -l rmt0
|> >     Method error (/etc/methods/cfgsctape):
|> > 	0514-047 Cannot access a device.
|> 
|> We just had the same problem.
|> 
|> Bad tape drive.

It could also be an addressing problem. You need to be sure the tape has
the same address set on it as you told SMIT when you defined the drive.
Look on the back of the drive. On an IBM tape drive there's a small white
knob in a blue wheel with digits 0-9. It that's set to 5, you have to
define the "connection address" (SMIT, "Add a tape drive") as 50. This is
the usual address for a tape on an RS6000, but if there's already
something defined there, you will have to move it, or reset your wheel;
in any event, be sure what you tell smit matches what's on the drive.

Then, too, there's the old question: is it plugged in? Is it turned on?
Is the SCSI cable connected? At both ends? I get the same message you get
by trying to configure a powered-down tape drive which has been on my system
for months and which I know works.

*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
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joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
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