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From: mem@world.std.com (Jeff Lesser)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: E-level Chess to enjoy
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:54:41 GMT
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Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan) writes:

>In article <1921wwcp511@tweekco.uucp> 824-5054%wwiv@tweekco.uucp (Jay Whitley #824 @5054) writes:
>>To: Kenneth Sloan
>> I was trying to follow Kiel,D-Sloan,D but I couldn't follow the moves...
>>For example 3...Nf6  (Black already made that move at 2...Nf6).  Thereafter,
>>I couldn't follow some of the other moves.  Could you repost corrected moves
>>so I can follow your annotations?  Thanks...looks like an interesting E-level
>>game along with your illustrative points!

>Sorry - I'll post a definitive correction in a few hours - but until
>then, I believe that the opening was:

>1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6

>E-level typing, I guess...

>[calling all typo-correction requests! make the evening deadline!]


>-- 
>Kenneth Sloan                   Computer and Information Sciences
>sloan@cis.uab.edu               University of Alabama at Birmingham
>(205) 934-2213                  115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station 
>(205) 934-5473 FAX              Birmingham, AL 35294-1170


Ken...
   The original article was very nice, and your son played a very good
game.  I would be proud if I were you.  (I have done some volunteer
training of children chess players, and the rewards are great.)
 
    Might I suggest that you clean up the typos and repost it?  There are
several moves in which ranks were "backwards" -- e.g., saying 3rd rank when
6th rank was intended, etc.  (I don't have the article here, or I'd
provide details.)
From: schiller@whorf (Eric Schiller)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: FISCHER-SPASSKY II BOOKS
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: schiller@sapir.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <183dwwcp511@tweekco.uucp> 824-5054%wwiv@tweekco.uucp (Jay  
Whitley #824 @5054) writes:
> Can anyone add to this list of Fischer-Spassky II books available?
>  
>  - BOBBY FISCHER'S $5,000,000 COMEBACK MATCH by IM Nigel Davies
> 
>  - WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP REMATCH by Shamkovich & Carier
> 
>  - Booklet of Annotated FSII Games by IM Jack Peters sold by LA Times
>  
>  Others?
That's Shamkovich & Cartier. opening research by Eric Schiller. Color  
commentary by Lou Hays. Lots of Photos. complete press confs.
Well over 300 pages.

Yeah, I get royalties. So I wont make any claims as to which is 
best.

Seirawan is rumored to have one in the works.
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Eric Schiller                              schiller@sapir.uchicago.edu
Dept of Linguistics, Univ. of Chicago      schiller@whorf.uchicago.edu
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:18:25 IST
From: <X67107@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: 60 memorable games

Some time back someone posted an algebric version of the games from
Bobby Ficher's book 'My Sixty Memorable games'. If anyone has a copy
could they please repost or send them to me by Email.

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From: linb@ucs.orst.edu (Benjamin Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: ACF
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:58:34 GMT
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In article <1g877oINNnem@tamsun.tamu.edu> sharring@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) writes:
>In article <1451600060@igc.apc.org> capsa@igc.apc.org (CAPSA) writes:
>>
>>play in title norm tournaments in the United States when one knows that a 
>>KK Karanja or a Maurice Ashley get only an occasional handout so that U. S. Chess moneybags will not APPEAR to be PREJUDICED (PERISH the thought) -- but not to
>This is b.s. I can name you about 100 other strong masters of caucasian or
>other descent who have received no support from anyone. Just off the top
>of my head: Thinnsen, Ardaman, Bradford, Kuroda, Bighamian, R. Smith,
>C. Hernandez (yes, this particular one helps your "argument"), John Hall,

I don't know anything about the ACF funding, but I do know that the players
on the ACF team for the USATE in 1991 were total jerks.

-benoni
 
Xref: sparky rec.games.chess:11690 rec.puzzles:8017
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess,rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: Chess Puzzle
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:04:44 GMT
 <1992Dec17.175827.12459@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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In article <1992Dec17.175827.12459@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
writes:

> I'm convinced the last two moves were:
> 
> e2-e4 fxe3+ (en passant)
> 
> I'm not sure what happened before that, though.

Oops.  One more addition.

White  Black
 ???   Bc8-b7+
e2-e4  f4xe3+ (en passant)

Reaching the diagrammed position.

NOW I'm at a loss.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
'Russian Vodka'."
From: steven@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk (Steven Rix)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: This has gone far enough! Stop avoiding
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:50:55 GMT
Reply-To: steven@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Chemical Engineering Department.
Originator: steven@gour

In article 483@uoft02.utoledo.edu, dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu () writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.192826.2582@chemeng.ed.ac.uk>, steven@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk (Steven Rix) writes:   
....
 >> Is anyone denying that the venues for the match were in the UN sanctions region,
>> that blood is being shed within a hundred miles of the match site, and that
>> Fischer's contemptuous treatment of his mother country is ... contemptible? 

>Jesus Christ. More people died in New York from violence during the match than
>died in Yugoslavia. If the U.N. were to forbid going to NYC, would you care
>what they said?

Oh I am so sorry. I temporarily forgot that there is absolutely no difference
between blacks killing blacks in New York ghettoes (widespread poverty I expect,
etc) and a policy of mass genocide in Yugoslavia, where people have a choice
between signing away all their possessions and getting killed. Of course, both
events are just the fault of one nation, so the UN ought not intervene in either
case.


>> 
>> Personally, I don't think Fischer is as good as Kasparov. But I would be 
>> delighted to be proved wrong if Fischer plays any further matches. If he 
>> doesn't, then who can disprove the claim that he only came back for the money?
>
>Even if he did play, how could you disprove it? A man's motives are something
>even the best court in the world can only guess at.
>
>DMC

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. Some people have said that FS-II was fixed,
for financial gain to the players and for publicity for the sponsor. I would not
be surprised if Spassky plays a few exhibition matches then retires from chess
with his "winnings". If Fischer immediately retires again, then the whole match 
will look nauseatingly like a complete charade.  

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: quintar@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Huston)
Subject: Re: Fried Liver attack
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:37:44 GMT

In article <4418@cvbnetPrime.COM> fdeming@cvbnet@prime.com (Frank Deming {x6088}) writes:
>About 6 months ago they were a number of articles on the net about the 
>Fried Liver attack. Did anyone keep them? If so could you forward them to
>me?
>
>Thanks
>Frank Deming
>fdeming@aecmail.prime.com

I hate to do this because it annoys me when other people do, but me too,
please?

I play the Fried Liver Attack often simply because it's something that 
confuses most players and thus would appreciate any information that
people would have on it....i.e.whether it is actually playable or not...

Thanks all...

dogmeat
From: rennie@pembvax1.pembroke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: 3D Chess Set
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:04:48 EDT
Organization: Pembroke State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: pembvax1.pembroke.edu

Does anyone know where I can find a 3D chess set?  Similiar to the chess set
featured in the TV series Star Trek: The Next Generation.  I have heard rumors
of the game being sold.  If I can't find the set I would like to either find
the rules and build one or possibly get a discussion of writing the rules.  

Thanks in Advance

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: epeterso@encore.com (Eric Peterson)
Subject: Re: Fischer time controls on ICS
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:31:41 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Frank G. Gomez (fgg@gemini.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:

| I thought  once you were below  zero, you lost the game.

I'm not an authority on ICS development, but I'd hedge a guess that the
reason they went to forcing the flag to be called was to allow users to
continue playing games they found interesting once an opponent's time
had run out.  If the user did care about time, [s]he then had a means
of enforcing the time control.

IMHO, this is probably the best solution.  You can't know whether or not
you're going to care about the time control until the game is already
well under way (usually).  Perhaps there should be some kind of command
to negotiate the [non]enforcement of time controls during the game,
similar to the way the "abort" or "adjourn" commands work (one player
offers, the other accepts or declines).  In addition each player could
have a state variable similar to "legal" which would determine whether
time control would be strictly enforced or not by default.

Comments?

Eric
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: fsmgs@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Michael Schmahl [Black-Robe Mage])
Subject: Re: Fischer time controls on ICS
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:32:54 GMT

Frank G. Gomez writes
] Hello,
] 
] I just  witnessed  a game on ICS that was being  played with
] Fischer time  controls;  move  increment  was 12 seconds.  I
] then  watched  one of the players  fall below zero  seconds,
] about -10 seconds to be exact.  His opponent didn't call his
] flag.  Then he moved  and got the 12  seconds  added  to his
] clock  bringing him to +2 seconds !  And then  proceeded  to
] win !  on  time,  no  less !  Is  this  really  the  way the
] Fischer  time control is supposed to work ?  I thought  once
] you were below  zero, you lost the game.  Just  curious.  It
] was an entertaining game to watch.

Don't know...  It dhouldn't be called Fischer time control though.  Look in _CL_ in  
one of the previous issues (I forget which) to find an article where the true  
inventor of the incremental time control system stepped forward in letters to the  
editor.

Seems on ICS now you have to call the opponent's flag.  I liked it better when the  
loss wsa autmatic.  This is actually an accepted variation in _ORC_ for time  
controls, but it has to be done consistently, which it was.

I do believe, however, that this situation seems logical, given that flag has to be  
called.  I don't however, believe that flag should have to be called, especially  
since the server keeps track of everything for you.

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From: perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman)
Subject: Re: How to make the USCF get things right.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:42:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.153812.16434@starbase.trincoll.edu> Russell L. Bryan <rbryan@Mail.trincoll.edu> writes:
>Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to get the USCF to realize that 
>they've got my first and last names reversed in their records?  I hadn't
>noticed until I checked out the rating list in this month's issue.  My
>assumption is that there is probably some heavy-duty paperwork involved
>(but I make that assumption about any large organization).

The first thing I would do is call their business number.  Not the 1-800
number, but the 914 area code one.  Tell them the change needs to be
made, and request a letter to acknowledge it.  Start watching your
magazine label to see if it does get changed.

>Also, just because I'm on the subject, I am aware that my rating is
>still provisional -- in fact, the last column had a mark which looked
>like /06 or something.  Does this mean that I am six matches AWAY from
>an official rating, or six matches TOWARD an official rating?  And how
>many matches must I play for my rating to become official?

It means you have played 6 games towards an official rating.  After 20
rated games your rating is considered official. 

-- 
"How sad to see/A model of decorum and tranquillity/become like any other sport
A battleground for rival ideologies to slug it out with glee." -Tim Rice,"Chess"
     Eric S. Perlman 				 <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> 
  Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: US championship CROSSTABLE
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:27:32 GMT
 <1992Dec11.190502.23282@news.uiowa.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Whose idea was it to invite Shirazi anyway?  I know some of our top
players have had thoughts of retiring (DeFirmian, etc.), but I mean,
this is a zonal!

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
'Russian Vodka'."
From: forrest@hls.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Graphic Interfaces for ICS
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:07:39 GMT

In article <1fghreINNllk@lester.appstate.edu>,
 C_S01798@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Patrick Todd Sloan) writes:
> 
	( Regarding GIICS ... )
>
> Can I run the program if I am on a PC connected DIRECTLY to the network?
> Thanks!
> 
> ptSLOAN
> 
> psloan@nyx.cs.du.edu
> C_S01798@alf.appstate.edu
> "sir dolittle the Knyghte"
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I would like to know this also.


forrest@hls.com
(415) 966-7902
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: edd@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ed.knowles)
Subject: Re: Short-Timman
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:44:41 GMT
Summary: Prediction on Short - Timman

In article <1992Dec10.023310.27286@raven.alaska.edu>, fsmgs@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Michael Schmahl [Black-Robe Mage]) writes:
> J. Theodore Schuerzinger writes
> > Any predictions?  I pick Short, 7-1/2 to 6-1/2.
> Short 9 to 5
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Short is a truly wonderful player, but is really too overconfident at times.
Timman tends to play 1200 rating points below his strength whenever he gets
within sight of the World Championship. So the match is really a toss-up.
Short is the better practical player, Timman probaly "knows" more. But, for
the sake of a little speculation, I'll pick Timman to win 9-5 (the hours I
wished I worked). Timman's been doing so poorly lately, i have to believe
he's setting Short up. You heard it here first.

By the way doesn't anybody remember when Joel Benjamin (that Joel guy)
completely demolished Short in a match (Joel was U.S. Champ, Short was
British champ). I don't remember the exact score, but it was a blowout.

Timman's book "The Art Of Chess Analysis" is really a wonderful book. Should
be in every chess library.

I think that Short would have a better chance to beat Kasparov, though. He
has beaten Kasparov more than once and so doesn't feel that he's invincible.
I don't know if Timman has every beaten Kasparov, but I remember one horrible
game where he was something like a rook and an exchange up against Kasparov
but completely fell apart when Kasparov started complicating things and
agreed to a draw while still a piece up! I think that he has a real psychological block when it comes to playing Kasparov. 

There was a time when Timman was considered almost unbeatable when he had
the white pieces, but you wouldn't think so watching the way he's been playing
lately, but anything's possible in chess (even a B.F. comeback), so maybe he
can regain his world class form...

                                         -Ed Knowles

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Subject: pardon Fischer?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:40:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1992Dec16.011130.26210@penet.fi> an1595@anon.penet.fi writes:
>GM Fischer indicted!
>Arrest warrant issued!!
>
>Should U.S. chessplayers
>lobby outgoing President Bush
>for an executive pardon???
>

YES.  But judging by the tone of most of the postings I see on this
      newsgroup, I'd guess that I'm decidedly in the minority.

                                                             Scott

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: slazzeri@seas.gwu.edu (Santos Lazzeri)
Subject: Software for integrating chess diagrams into a word processor?
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:28:25 GMT


Hello,

Is there any software that can create diagrams for chess positions that can be easily
included into a word processor like MS-word, Word-Perfect, etc. ?

I'll appreciate any information. 

Santos G. Lazzeri
From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Pardon Fischer?
Date: 20 Dec 92 08:48:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <18655@mindlink.bc.ca> Bruce_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca (Bruce Harper) writes:
>Being a Canadian, not an American, lawyer, can a lawyer out there tell us
>whether the executive even has the power to "pardon" someone who has not been
>tried or convicted?  I would think not, so really the discussion must have
>been about whether Fischer should have been charged.


Richard Nixon was pardoned without being convicted, although the
efforts to impeach him could be interpreted as a "trial" (even
though the process was incomplete due to Ford's pardon of Nixon).

Ford's pardon of Nixon was very carefully worded - he excused the
former executive of any breaches of the law "he may have comitted."




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From: jeff@econBerkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: ICS Interface for MS-Windows
Date: 14 Dec 1992 23:55:37 GMT
Organization: Econometrics Laboratory, U. C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: emily5.berkeley.edu

My project for this winter break will be to write an interface to ICS
for MS-Windows.  Planned features will include multiple board windows for
observing many games at once, separtate windows for maintaining a current
list of players logged on (with point and click match and tell commands),
monitoring shouts and tells and other automated commands.  If anybody has
any good ideas for other features, e-mail me.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeff Ely                         |    "He said the Sun's not yellow...  
Department of Economics          |     It's Chicken!" 
UC Berkeley                      |
jeff@econ.berkeley.edu           |
From: fsmgs@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Michael Schmahl [Black-Robe Mage])
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: question about USCF ratings
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:56:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: raven.1992Dec17.015654.11221
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network

Benjamin Lin writes
> What are the lifetime titles and norm points about?  
> What is the difference between b and B? 
> is b=1600-1699 and B=1700-1799 ???
yes
> is x=2000-2099 and X=2100-2199 ???
yes
> is m=2200-2299 and M=2300-2399 ???
yes
> is s=2400-2499 and S=2500-2599 ???  for lifetime titles?
yes
> 
> How are norm points earned?
By performing better (by about .2 to .4 games) than a player with said rating  
would.  A good guesstimate is to subtract the 'delta' (from May 1991 _CL_ [would  
somebody mail or post these to me?  I lost that issue]) and figure your performance  
rating based on that.  if 1700, for example you get two points toward 'B' and five  
points toward 'b' and you automatically get 'C'.  (So consistency is not the issue,  
it's life achievement.  If an E-player suddenly was as skilled as a grandmaster for  
one tournament, getting a 2600 norm, he would always be an 's', even if he never  
won another game.)
> 
> How come qrqr has s for lifetime title?
Hm?  
> 
> -benoni

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From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Fischer Indicted
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:33:43 GMT

In <1992Dec16.175926.23636@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.095524.18560@husc3.harvard.edu>
>fry@zariski.harvard.edu (David Fry) writes:

>> Officially, Fischer violated the International Emergency Economic
>> Powers Act, invoked by Bush to impose sanctions on Yugoslavia.  It
>> gives the president the power to block Americans from engaging in
>> transactions with a foreign country.  The law has been used 22 since
>                              ^^^^^^^
>> 1987 to bring violators to trial.

>Of course, one could argue that Fischer only engaged in transactions
>with a citizen of that country -- and that might not necessarily be
>illegal.

>If we buy new 'Informants' does that mean we're breaking the law too? 
>The Informants are published in Belgrade, you know.

Not to mention the legal/moral dilemmas of those writing/buying FSII books.