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From: kc6sss@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Kissing Cousin Six Sugar Sugar Sugar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-codes
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:44:42 GMT
Organization: The People's Number Four Cat Farm, Berkeley CA, USA

alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:

>In rec.radio.amateur.misc, mellob@cary115.its.rpi.edu (Elmer Fudd) writes:

>>	It's understandable that no-code technicians would be aggravated
>>	by being designated as such. This is why I refer to a no-code
>>	tech as simply a "Technician." And refer to a Technician as a
>>	"Technician Plus HF" or simply a "Tech Plus." 

>So how would you translate this sentence into Politically Correct language?

>     "No-code Technicians may not transmit on the 10 meter band."

In order to legally transmit on the 10 meter band, a licenced amateur
must have passed a Morse Code exam at a regular testing session either
when he initially completed the exams required for his license or at
some latter point in time.  

The previous sentence covers everyone, no?

There is no such thing as a "Tech Plus" or a "Tech Minus" license, of
course, just Technicians. 

Some have passed Elements 2, 3 and 1A. 

Some have passed only Elements 2, 3A and one of 1A, 1B or 1C.  If they
passed Element 1A, they may be holding CSCEs for successful completion
of other elements.

Some of them have passed only Elements 2 and 3A and may even be holding
CSCEs for other Elements.
From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real Hams Flamage
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:21:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com


To all those embroiled in this net.rathole:


IT'S CALLED A GRIP:  GET ONE!


I swear, if this whining and bitching about CW does not stop soon
I'm going to have to hurl.  Where's the ham-radio section of this
bbs anyway?


Fred   "That'd be CW, Bob!"   AA7BQ




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[ Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ                             Fred.Lloyd@West.Sun.COM ]
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: larsent@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LARSEN  TORE HOIVAAG)
Subject: Sending email from Internet to packet???
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:14:10 GMT


Hi.
Could somebody tell me if it is possible to send mail from Internet
to the Ham radio packet BBS system?
I'm in Colorado and would like to send mail to somebody in California.
Which gateways are there, and which should I be using, and how is the
To: format?

Thanxs!

larsent@ucsu.colorado.edu
From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Transmitting 50-178 & 300-512?
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:13:16 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

johnr@f1.facts.uky.edu (john roberts) writes:

>I have this friend who has a radio modified to transmit from 50-178 and  
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

John,

How long have you..... er, that is, your friend, had this radio?  Is
'your friend' aware that the FCC's favorite number these days is 8000?

If your friend is compelled to transmit outside bands that you... er,
um, he is licensed to use, then be sure not to disrupt police
emergencies or McDonalds comm frequencies!

73,
Dave
-- 
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Project Leader, OCR products            kz1o@n0ary.#noca.ca.na
Internet: dbushong@wang.com
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: using glass mount antennas
Date: 25 Jan 1993 01:17:19 -0500
Organization: The Programmers' Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
NNTP-Posting-Host: mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us

In article <1993Jan23.215223.671@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> shourbaji@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Take a look around next time you are driving and notice how many cell phone 
>antennas there are.  Most of them are glass mounts.  If there was a flaw
>in the idea of using through the glass antennas, I don't think they would
>be that prominent.  

On the other hand, I think the reasons glassmount antennas are so
popular are that they're relatively easy to install, they don't
involve something as "permanent" as drilling a hole in the body of the
car, and the amount of labor involved in doing a glassmount
installation is much less than that of a through-the-roof
installation.  (There's also less of a chance of water getting in
through the antenna hole and causing the body to rust out prematurely,
thus opening up the cellphone dealer to liability suits.)

Also consider that the average distance to the nearest cell site is
typically going to be a lot shorter than the distance to the closest
amateur radio repeater, let alone the repeater you're trying to work.
This means that the carphone doesn't have to reach nearly as far with
its 3W as I do when I'm trying to work the local 440 repeater from 40
miles away on my HT.  Thus, I'm going to need a better antenna for
that HT than for my cellphone.

Finally, consider the fact that someone on the net was recently
talking about how the whip from their 2m glassmount antenna fell off,
but they never bothered to replace it because the "antenna" performed
pretty much the same with it as without.  This indicates to me that
not much of the signal was even getting out of the car; if that's the
case, then why bother with an antenna at all?  Why not just put a
1/4-wave whip on your back seat, or even an appropriately-sized piece
of coax, and be done with it?

-- 
Marc Unangst, N8VRH         | "Of course, in order to understand this you
mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   |  have to remember that the nucleus of the atom
                            |  is squishy."
                            |    -W. Scheider, from a Physics lecture
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld)
Subject: Infighting
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:04:57 GMT


Hmmm.  On this latest "no-codes" thread, I have but one thing to say:

Grow up, everybody!

When somebody actually takes the time either to learn the material or
even just to memorize enough of the manual to pass the no-code exams, 
this shows that they have a certain desire to get licensed.

Notice, they didn't go out and buy CB's.  They actually went out, studied,
and got licensed according to FCC rules.  They cared enough about the
hobby to actually go out, study, and PASS exams, in order to do something
that they could have done by just going out and buying CB's.
Many no-coders go back and do the code, many even before they get their
licenses in the mail.  I have seen it.  I have tested many of them.

When somebody sounds CBish, it's because that's probably where their 
exposure has been - so either:

1)  Laugh and say, "Boy, they don't know anything.  What lids!"

                   - or -

2)  Teach them the "more correct" way.

Sorry guys, but if the desire was there to actually go out and get licen-
sed, and they actually went out and did it, and the FCC says they're OK,
why are we flaming them?  Like anyone who isn't a ham and reads this 
forum to maybe get into it is going to be IMPRESSED by what's going on?

Ham numbers are going up, but frequencies are always under attack.  If
we are so busy trashing LICENSED HAMS who actually have a contribution
to make, we will never survive.

P.S. Some members of the 14.313 gang are considerably less of hams than
most no-coders I know, so don't flame and laugh at no-coders - at least they
usually want to learn the right way to do things given the chance.

Scott NF3I

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Subject: Re: Three Minute Morse
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:33:57 GMT

In article <paulf.728071906@abercrombie.Stanford.EDU> paulf@abercrombie.Stanford.EDU (Paul Flaherty) writes:
>devo@vnet.ibm.com (Dave Eaton) writes:
>
>Somehow, lost in the noise, is the fact that, in addition to the surge of
>codeless techs, there has also been a significant increase in the number
>of hams upgrading in recent months.   The reason is simple enough.  It's
>pretty well impossible to explain the utility of morse code to someone who is
>outside of the hobby.  From the inside, however, it's a different matter.
>Personally, I had never planned on upgrading from tech when I got the license
>in 1986; a few months on the air changed all that.

Has anyone besides me noticed a surge in ads in the various ham radio
magazines for all kinds of products for Amateur radio lately? Seems like
every time I look in 73 and the others I see new stuff that I haven't seen 
before. The No-code techs are responsible for that folks! God Bless them!
Maybe our ham radio magazines will resemble those in Japan where they are
darn near the size of phone books in the near future. Let's see the hobby
is growing almost at the rate of 10% per year now. In 7 years that's a 
doubling of size so we are looking at about 1.2 millions hams in 1999 as
we are at about 600,00 now. That's a lot of new HT's and HF gear! Yes, the
future looks bright for ham radio! You can quible with the figures but 
they are in the general ball park. IF anyone has exact figures could you 
please post them? COME ON NO-CODE!!!!  73!

Jeff


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: flinxwei@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric Linxweiler)
Subject: No-Codes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:37:46 GMT

This whole subject about 'No-Codes' has gotten way out of hand.  The whole
point is this:

     - people who earn their ticket, regardless of which, have some interest
       in our hobby and for that reason need to be warmly welcomed rather than
       shunned.  Is it no wonder why some new 'no code' operators get upset and
       use poor procedures when all they hear is constant flames.

When I earned my ticket, people were very helpful in getting me started off on
the correct foot.  Sure I made mistakes, but instead of hanging me, they helped
me out.  Henceforth I am learning the better practices of ham radio, not the
correct way to chew out people who mess up.

We can't expect everyone who earns their ticket to be world class operator from
the get-go, but we can help those (myself included) correct themselves in a
polite and friendly fashion.


73,
Eric  N8UNN


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From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What Amateur Radio books should a library have?
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:54:48 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

>Our local library system does not stock any new Amateur Radio books 
>published within the last 10 years.  Most of the stuff is circa 
>1976-1979.  I'll try and recommend these 3 titles to my library and maybe 
>, just maybe, they'll buy a copy or two.

You could stack the deck by donating a copy yourself.  

It's as good excuse to buy a new handbook as any. 8)

Callbooks go into the reference (can't check out) section....we will be 
putting the club's 1993 books into the public library next year.

It's probably a good idea to inventory the target library first to see what's 
on the shelves and to check for what's checked out - You may also want to 
spread the contributions around (as in the case of old handbooks) or target a 
single library to get it as complete and up to date as possible.
From: ak667@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Garvas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Morse Code software for an Apple IIgs
Date: 24 Jan 1993 11:39:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I need whats mentioned in the title!! please help! =)

p.s. reply by email if not a problem.

Jeff
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio,rec.radio.info
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Causes Cancer
From: ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu (Richard Eldon Barber)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:42:57 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

re: Interesting trend in RF awareness

Goes along with the guy on the news sueing because his wife of something
died from Microwave induced cancer from a cellular telephone.
---KD6KXR@KG6XX.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA

---Rick Barber, <ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu>
From: kc6sss@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Kissing Cousin Six Sugar Sugar Sugar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order to pass your exam
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:40:54 GMT
Organization: The People's Number Four Cat Farm, Berkeley CA, USA

alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:

>In rec.radio.amateur.misc, samodena@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (S. A. Modena) writes:

>>Are written theory exams available in Spanish?  

>It's hard to imagine that anyone could be a very successful amateur in the US 
>without knowing English.  The regulations are written in English.  Nearly
>all QSOs are in English.  This is true even on the DX bands -- English is
>the lingua franca of the airwaves.  I have even heard Japanese stations
>talking to each other (CW) in English.

Another sign that CW causes brain-rot.

Be that as it may, I believe that the W5YI group had planned on giving
examinations in Spanish in the LA area a year or so ago.  I would start
by contacting them and seeing what they had to say.
From: mormsby@dante.nmsu.edu (ORMSBY)
Subject: MFJ 1278 & SOFT FOR SALE
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:08:55 GMT

MFJ 1278 and software for sale.  This unit does it all!  Will inclue
the newest tcip and mfj's 1284 software.

        email:  mormsby@dante.nmsu.edu
From: aj008@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Aaron M. Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANTED:Non functioning Mitsumi 5 1/4 half height disk drive
Date: 24 Jan 1993 06:25:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Subject says it all.Please drop me a line if you can help me out.
Thank You.
-- 
Aaron
aj008@cleveland.freenet.edu
Place for Ted Kennedy in Clinton administration? Head of Departme
nt of Transportation roads and BRIDGES division,of course!
From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Radio in Media (was: Marge Simpson's sister is a ham!)
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:34:05 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

>Don't forget the sitcom ALF.  Willie was a radio amateur and that
>factored into the plot of many episodes.

believe it was shown that it was some cross between CB and Amateur.   This 
differs from the Simpsons references that are to the point.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: erik@teal.csn.org (Erik Mugele)
Subject: Re: light-weihgt power supplies : Info. 
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:02:11 GMT

In article <1029321.13087.11724@kcbbs.gen.nz> Steve_Wright@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Wright) writes:
>It's easy enough to convery a PC power supply and they're **cheap** !

Would someone care to post the details on how to do this?  I am very 
interested.  Email responses are fine, but I am sure there would be others
who would like to know also.

73,
Erik
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: The state of Ham Radio
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:50:57 GMT

Jack, K4FRS writes:
> Reallocation of spectrum space...
> Ham radio is extremely vulnerable
> from a technical perspective.  We are nowhere near "state of the art"...

>  Each of the new
> consumer/wireless communications schemes which comes along will want a
> chunk of spectrum about the size of a ham band....  Is anyone else 
concerned about all this?

You bet. Our society is changing, and placing more and more value
on telecommunications.  Many of our frequency bands, especially
UHF and higher, may come to be considered too valuable to give
them to a hobby group.  This has been a on-going trend; remember
that at one time, we had everything below 200 meters.  But as soon 
as the hams showed everyone that these frequencies were valuable,
they took them back.  This will continue, as the commercial value
of the bands exceeds the value society places on ham radio.  Put 
yourself in the position of the FCC: should you leave the 900 MHz
band to the hams, who hardly use it at all, or should you give to
the cellular carriers, thereby creating billions of dollars of business revenue, taxes, and jobs?

I think we should go down fighting, but I'm very pessimistic 
about the future of the UHF and higher bands.

Mike, N4PDY

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: illegals (was: Re: Radio Shack Business Band Radio)
From: clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:58:12 EST

In article <1993Jan21.183435.1083@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) writes:
> In article <1993Jan20.125802.2749@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>, dj1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes...
>>>
>>Here is a RS flame but when I was in there the guy said:
>>"No problem, just use it no liscense required!"
> 
> Yah, this brings up something I've been wondering about. What are we, as hams,
> to do when something like this occurs?
> 
> For instance, here in Massachusetts there is a local for sale/wanted magazine,
> one of the catagories of which is "radios and electronics". I very often see
> ads in there like:        Acme 40 channel CB, modified for 100 channels and
>                           increased power. Call Joe 123-4567
> 
> I'm extremely tempted to tear out the page, apply a highlighter, and forward it
> to the FCC. Comments, anyone?
> 
> -Tom R.   randolph@est.enet.dec.com


	Go for it ... but ... don't be disappointed when nothing
	seems to happen.

	I, too, am frustrated by "stuff" like this ... but ... I 
	guess the wheels of justice gind very slowly.  Perhaps,
	one of these days, the seller will manage to make a deal
	with a radio <enforcement> officer ..... then ?????

	73 >< Carl
	   K8NHE
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: using glass mount antennas
From: shourbaji@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:52:23 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

A note about through the glass antennas:

Take a look around next time you are driving and notice how many cell phone 
antennas there are.  Most of them are glass mounts.  If there was a flaw
in the idea of using through the glass antennas, I don't think they would
be that prominent.  

I personally own two of the Larsen dual band antennas.  They have been on my
cars for about 1 year with no problems.  

A couple of things to keep in mind whenn installing any glass mount:
	1 : Make sure the glass is CLEAN!.
	2 : Make sure the glass is warm (room temp).  The Larsen instructions
            point thi out.  The also mention to use a blow dryer if it is 
            cold.  I installed my antennas DEC 26 1991 (presents) and used
            the blow dryer to heat the glass and kept all parts for the
            antenna in the house until I was ready to apply it.  This method
            has worked well for me.

Larsen offers a 1 year warranty on the antennas and offers re-mount kits
if they are needed.  I'm sure if you can recover the missing pieces,
Larsen would be happy to give / sell you the re-mount kit.

I know 2 other people with the same antennas and they have experienced no
trouble with them.  I'm not flaming anyone, but I think with a little 
care, anyone will get years of service out of any glass mount.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tkivivuo@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Toni Kivivuori)
Subject: Re: Mods available via FTP?
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:57:00 GMT

 (PJC130@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:
> I'm looking for an up to date set of mods; are there any systems that have
> the database available for anonymous ftp?
> 
Try at nic.funet.fi

/pub/ham/rigmods/rigmods.lzh 

> 
>           *************************************************
>           **  Regardless of what the above address says, **
>           **      my address is paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us     **
>           *************************************************

/Toni
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InterNet : Tkivivuo@kruuna.helsinki.fi      |  Speed kills - Use DOS!        
BitNet   : Tkivivuori@finuha                | " What whistling comes, will
Packet   : OH2LNM @ OH2NJR.FIN.EU           |   whistling go " (c) Doppler
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From:  hgpeach@ms.uky.edu (Harold G. Peach, Jr.)
Subject: Coax voltage - How to computer?
Organization:  University of Kentucky
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:42:17 GMT

A recent posting regarding voltage on twin-lead prompted me to ask
a question I have had for some length of time:  How do you compute
the transmitted voltage on a coax, given the power?  You have
the impedance of the coax to work with, but some ham friends have
told me SQRT(RP) adjusted for RMS does not yield an accurate transmitted
voltage or current.
---
Harold G. Peach, Jr.                              Home Phone:  (606) 271-6393
University of Kentucky, Lexington               Campus Phone:  (606) 257-3335
hgpeach@ms.uky.edu                                       FAX:  (606) 258-5842
  (Opinions above are expressed as a student of the University of Kentucky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mike@imcldn.demon.co.uk (Michael P Simkins)
Subject: Help with an ICOM IC202S
Reply-To: mike@imcldn.demon.co.uk
Keywords: ICOM
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.30 $
Organization: Independent Mail Centre, Enfield, Middx, UK
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:13:56 +0000

Can anybody help me??

I have obtained an old Icom IC202S 2m SSB xcvr, without any documentation etc.

Does anybody know what the mike pinouts are, or the crystals to be used for
the 'A' and 'B' positions.

Thanks in advance

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