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From: dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold)
Subject: Re: Discovering the operating system version
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:08:52 GMT

From article <1992Nov23.224107.19126@csi.on.ca>, by neil@csi.on.ca (Neil Channen):
> I need a way to find out the version of the operating system on an AIX
> system, for example, "3.1.5" or "3.2.1".  Currently, I can get the first

lslpp -h bos.obj

Option Name     State      Event      Date/Time Release         User Name
--------------- ---------- ---------- --------- --------------- ----------
bos.obj              INACTIVE   COMMIT     02/02/90  03.01.0000.0000 root
                     INACTIVE   APPLY      10/15/91  03.01.0003.0018 root
                     ACTIVE     COMMIT     10/15/91  03.01.0003.0018 root

This is also available via smit -> Installation and Maintenance ->
Inventory / Vital Product Data -> Show History of an Optional Program Product

Now whether it is easy to parse ... ;-)

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From: probe@mit.edu (Richard Basch)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: UDP Checksum on NFS in AIX 3.2?
Followup-To: comp.unix.aix
Date: 15 Nov 1992 17:42:54 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: tardis.mit.edu
In-reply-to: bguest@ateam.ems.cdc.com's message of 12 Nov 92 14:57:47 GMT


I had this complaint about AIX 3.1 and wrote the following program (it
works under AIX 3.2 as well).

-Richard Basch
MIT IS/DCNS Systems Development

[Standard disclaimer applies.]

------------------------------ cut here ------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/file.h>

#include <nlist.h>

struct nlist nl[] =
{
#define X_NFSUDP 0
    {"nfsudpcksum"},
    0,
};

int nnl = sizeof(nl)/sizeof(struct nlist) - 1;

main(argc, argv)
int argc;
register char *argv[];
{
    register int mem;
    register int i;
    unsigned long x;

    knlist(nl, nnl, sizeof(struct nlist));

    if ((mem = open ("/dev/kmem", O_RDWR, 0)) == -1) {
	perror ("open(mem)");
	return 3;
    }

#ifdef DEBUG
    for (i=0; i<nnl; i++) {
	printf("name=%s value=0x%08x", nl[i].n_name, nl[i].n_value);
	if (nl[i].n_value) {
	    lseek(mem, nl[i].n_value, L_SET);
	    read(mem, &x, sizeof(x));
	    printf(" *value=0x%08x\n", x);
	} else
	    printf("\n");
    }
#else
    if (nl[X_NFSUDP].n_value) {
	lseek(mem, nl[X_NFSUDP].n_value, L_SET);
	x = 1;
	write(mem, &x, sizeof(x));
    } else
        fprintf(stderr, "Unable to enable NFS UDP checksumming.\n");
#endif
    
    return 0;
}
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From: johnf@shared.com (John Fusselman)
Subject: Re: moving files from disk to tape - problems!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 23:56:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Shared Financial Systems
Keywords: dd cp delete tape devices

In <1992Nov17.163014.66377@shared.com> johnf@shared.com (John Fusselman) writes:

>In the process of attempting to duplicate a tape I effortlessly read the 
>tape contents onto disk using dd - ``dd if=/dev/rmt0.1 of=FILENAME''. The 
>trouble came when I attempted to copy the files from disk to a new tape; 
>dd never moved the tape but instead *promptly* produced an error as
[stuff deleted]
>Either an RS/6000 550 running AIX 3.1 or a 220 running 3.2.2 acts the
>same; the tape drives are both 1/4 inch cartridge, QIC-150 type,
[stuff deleted]

The problem with dd turned out to be the use of DC600 tapes instead of
DC6150 tapes or the equivalent. I had at one time understood that there
was a difference between these tapes and a greater difference than the
length (at one time the 600's were 600 feet long - 20 feet shorter than
the 6150's).  I now *know* that one should use nothing other than DC6150
tapes in high density (QIC-150) tape drives; otherwise, the results
may be unpredictable. The precise operation that failed 100% of the
time works 100% of the time with only changing the type of tape.
None of several DC600's would work; all of several DC6150's worked
perfectly. Problem solved.

>Things got more interesting when I tried "cp" on the 220 under 3.2.2;
>sometimes when it failed, it deleted the tape device! I was only able
>consistently to delete rmt0, rmt0.1, .2, and .4; rmt0.5 usually works
[stuff deleted}

This problem persists; the special files that correspond to the tape
drive are owned by root and are assigned to group "system". Logged in
as root or as member of group system, an attempt to copy a file to the
tape - ``cp file /dev/rmt0'' - will remove the file; changing my group
with "newgrp" will instead result in the file being copied to tape as
expected. There is an open call to IBM on this matter.

Once the file is on the tape, whether by "dd" or "cp", the tape is an
exact duplicate of the original (it was a system image; it is
bootable). 
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From: losburn@teal.csn.org (Lynn Osburn)
Subject: Re: LEDs flash 223 and 229 when installing new disk.  Any advise?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:34:50 GMT

>Some have suggested it is an AIX bug involving large external disk drives
>greater than 1GB.  Can someone confirm this?  Would it be a bug that would
>be fixed by AIX 3.2.3?  We are running AIX 3.2.0.
>
>Another person suggested I need to reset the NVRAM by removing the battery.
>Is there a way to reset the NVRAM without removing the battery?

According to my CE, blowing away the NVRAM is the *last* resort.  Too 
many things depend on it, and though it can be a userful tool, make sure
you have a current backup before you pull the battery!  

I recently tried to add an external (670M) drive.  Picked an unused address,
(with system off) plugged it in, making sure to terminate the buss, and
then powered up.  Got the alternating 223-229 forever.  Turns out that the
drive had had its interface changed by the OEM packager, thus I was trying 
to attach a differential interface to a SCSI-II buss.  No she workee.

Any chance you are suffering similarly?  What happens when you view the
disk thru SMIT STORAGE?  How about if you just do an 'lsdev -C|grep disk' ?
Does aix recognize the disk, or did you have to use the 'other scsi disk'
to configure it?

Random thoughts...hope one hits home for you.
-oz
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From: bikostas@cs.few.eur.nl (Konstantijn R.J. van Goor)
Subject: Problems setting up RS/6000 for modem login
Summary: Problems in setting up RS/6000 to work properly with modem
Keywords: modems, problems, AIX, RS6000
Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:44:04 GMT

Hello experts,

I have a problem setting up a RS/6000 to work properly with a modem.
I am using Discovery 2400 AM modems. I tried *many* times to set up
a special tty to enable loging in with a modem. It won't work. The
system occasionaly complains about garbage etc. There is however one way
to make it work: establish a modem connection and then change the
terminal type parameter in smit e.g. When he saves this information and
gives 'ttyxx changed' a login prompt appears at the remote host. Hanging
up and establishing a connection again won't work....
Does anybody know how to fix this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Kostas van Goor
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: dwight@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (Dwight D. Moore)
Subject: Re: NQS/Error.
Originator: usenet@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:30:55 GMT
Reply-To: dwight@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network, Univ. of Oklahoma

In article <BxxrC5.BqI@ns1.nodak.edu>, salas-m@everest.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Juan P. Salas) writes:
|
|>Dear AiX'ers
|>
|>I am in the process of compiling NQS on the rs6000.
|>I have run into trouble, the following is the error msg.
|>
|>NQS(FATAL): Unable to determine machine-id of local host.
|>NQS(INFO):  Execution aborted.
|>NQS(INFO):  NQS log process exiting.
|>
|>I believe the problem is because i don't have the file
|>/etc/nmap/machines
|>
|>I know that machines should contain the machine-id. 
|>How do i create this file? i looked for some options in the 
|>makefile, but can't seem to find any.
|>
|>I hope someone can help?
|>
|>thanks
|>
|>-Juan
|>salas-m@everest.cc.ndsu.nodak.edu

For the COSMIC version of NQS, use the "nmapmgr" program
to set the machine-ids.

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Geosciences Computing Network
University of Oklahoma

dwight@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (129.15.40.10)
These opinions do not necessarily represent the opinions of OU or the GCN.

New Age UNIX: kill didn't work but the process reported a Near
         Death Experience. (courtesy of Stan Kelley-Bootle, UNIX Review)
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Subject: Re: "The little yellow button" (Was: Reset button? Or shutdown?)
From: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz
Followup-To: comp.unix.aix,bit.listserv.aix-l
Organization: Chem Dept, Uni of Canty, Chch, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Bob Shair (shair@barolo.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
> 
> I don't believe that it syncs anything.  When I need to push it, I issue the
> sync command first (don't need to be root for that), then press the BYB.

or better still, just let all your users know that the first person
to hit the byb gets their kneecaps removed
 
> Yes, it can be disabled by putting the key in "secure" mode.

but doesn't it then also lock the direct attached keyboard? I remember
trying that at some stage, and found I couldn't _do_ anything whilst
it was in secure

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From: rick@mel1.geg.mot.com (Rick Rankin)
Subject: Re: Has ANYBODY got x3270 to work on AIX??
Organization: Motorola, inc. - Scottsdale, AZ
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:02:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.225437.2339@bmw.mayo.edu> fisk@cvdv73.mayo.edu (Tom Fisk) writes:

   Today I spent entirely too much time trying to get the public domain x3270 
   working on AIX.  After debugging it looks like we are waiting for input from 
   the mainframe during a read.

   Have you gotten x3270 to work?  If so please let me know!  Thanks!  Tom.
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Yes, on 3.1.5.  I haven't tried on 3.2 yet.  My first pass several
weeks ago didn't work, but recently I got a file called
x3270-cut-n-paste.tar.Z (or something very similar) from
export.lcs.mit.edu.  I started over from scratch by untarring
x3270.tar.Z, then x3270-cut-n-paste.tar.Z and compiled.  Lo and
behold, it worked without modification (as best I can remember,
anyway).  I'm a little disappointed that it doesn't handle extended
attributes, but if I can ever get hold of a 3270 data stream manual, I
may try to add them.  Hope this helps.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mqh@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Mike Hojnowski)
Subject: Re: AIX sendmail bug
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:24:17 GMT

In article <BxvGCI.6GC@math.uwaterloo.ca> mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
>The stock sendmail on AIX doesn't appear to honour MX record
>references when "OK ALL" is used as an option.  Are there any known bugs with
>MX record handling in AIX sendmail?

Murry,  I've got mine set to "OK MX", and it handles MX just fine.  I didn't 
see a need to specify ALL, so I skipped it.

Mike
From: ulf@park1.park.se (Ulf Noren)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Problem with bidirectional modems
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:51:24 GMT
Organization: Parkskolan, \rnsk|ldsvik, Sweden


I have an IBM RS/6000 m530 with AIX 3.2

I have some problems setting up bidirectional modem communication.
I have configured the ports as delay'ed. The problem is that the 
getty sets the permissions on the ports to 662 which prevents
anyone from login in through the modem as the TSM complains it can't
open the port.

Reading the manual for getty gave some hints but nothing more.
The most interesting part reads as follows:

	When the getty command is invoked, the following steps occur:

	1.	The port protection is set according to the owner and
	protection attribute in the ODM database. If these attributes
	are not specified, they default to root and 622.
	.
	.


This is a bit strange. I have set the owner of the ports to uucp
to get my uucp-connections to work and it is only changed if 
'penable ttyxx'. Then it is owned by root. But if I pdelay it again
the ownership is back to uucp.
As you also can see the file-protection doesn't match either.

My question is now: 
How do I change these values in the ODM
(or is the manual lying?)
Any other solutions to my problem?

Any help appreciated.

/ Ulf
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Telephone  +046 660 88341     |  Vintergatan 17
E-mail     ulf@park.se        |  891 36 Oernskoeldsvik, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: chukran@cactus.org (Rudy E. Chukran)
Subject: Re: Virtual Memory curiosity
Keywords: VM overflow response
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:46:54 GMT

In article <BxnyG7.4Hv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> shair@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>Good idea, but not for AIX.  Don't think AIX ever swaps the read-only stuff
>out in the first place.
If you only consider readonly persistent text segments, then these are
never paged out because they are never dirtied. They get paged back in
from the filesystem.

However, to be complete, consider the shared text segment. The shared text
segment consists of many sections mapped readonly from many shared objects
in the filesystem. But, these are mapped into a working segment, and therefore
the associated pages are paged to page space. So these pages are paged out,
even though they are readonly.

They are paged out at least once and consume page space pages. The part that
I dont know for sure is if they are ever paged out a second time?
My understanding is that a page is paged out only if it is dirty. If it
is clean, then it is simple replaced. This holds for any non dirty page, 
regardless of whether is is readonly or writtable.

Any corroboration from the VMM folks? Is Scott listening?

Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: Problems with mail on AIX 3.2
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:28:17 GMT


In article <jsantos.721429046@godzilla> jsantos@godzilla.ma30.bull.com
(James Santos) writes:
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> bellmail: failed to create lock file /usr/spool/mail/jsantos.lock after 100 tries
> 554 <jsantos@holodeck.ma30.bull.com>... unknown mailer error 2
>
> Anyone have any idea why this is happening.  [...]

You get your mail directory via NFS, and the server has a broken lockd.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: schuetz@iacrs2.unibe.ch (Martin Schuetz)
Subject: Re: RS6000 almost stops with heavy disk access.
Reply-To: schuetz@iacrs2.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:02:37 GMT

In article <199211171808.AA15477@cc.ysu.edu>, JOAOLSD@vm1.sdi.uam.es (Joao Luis Silva Damas) writes:
|> Hi,
|> we have two rs6000 (a 320H and 340) being used by different kinds of users.
|> Some of them do large molecular calculations which create HUGE (600-700 MB) tem
|> porary files for the molecular integrals. When their program begins writing the
|> se huge files and then reading them as needed, our machines almost stop and oth
|> er users are almost unable to use the system. The slowness means 30-60 sec to l
|> ogon, 1 minute for X windows to create a new window, a long time for even an ls
|> , etc. Most other users do a lot of editing so they actually need better respon
|> se time from the machine.
|> Is there anyway to correct this situation (besides killing those huge calculati
|> ons, of course)?
|> Thanks for your answers,
|>                       Joao Damas

1) Consider installation of NQS with fixed priority patch 
   (obtainable e.g. from this site)
2) If these large, molecular calculations are Gaussian 9x Hartree-Fock
   ab-initio calculations, use the direct SCF method. This reduces
    disk-access considerably and is faster on the rs6k.

Hope that helps...
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Switzerland                                 schuetz@iacrs2.unibe.ch
From: konopik@konopik.austin.ibm.com (Brad Konopik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Problem with bidirectional modems
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:30:48 GMT
Organization: IBM AIX Porting Center, Austin

In article <1486@park1.park.se> ulf@park1.park.se (Ulf Noren) writes:
>
>I have an IBM RS/6000 m530 with AIX 3.2
>
>I have some problems setting up bidirectional modem communication.
>I have configured the ports as delay'ed. The problem is that the 
>getty sets the permissions on the ports to 662 which prevents
>anyone from login in through the modem as the TSM complains it can't
>open the port.

I haven't seen these problems.  I usually use 'share' my modem ports
rather than 'delay' them...but I've never had any problems.  I just
went over and played with 'delay' on a virgin 3.2 machine.  Worked
fine.



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From: dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (John DeDourek)
Subject: Re: mksysb backup without /home
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:29:15 GMT


At a previous version of AIX, mksysb only backed up mounted file
systems in the root volume group.  At the point, I backed up
everything but /home by first unmounting /home and then running
the backup option in "smit startup".  This ran mksize file first,
and I presume only created that .mkszfile ?spelling? for the 
stuff not counting /home.  Of course, had to be done from a userid
that doesn't use /home for home directory (default for root is home
of /) and no normal users can be logged on.

Have not tried this for recent releases.

dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: chris@quay.ie (Christopher Davey)
Subject: compiling AIX3.1 binaries on AIX3.2
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:59:42 GMT
Organization: Quay Financial Software

How does one do this ? Is there a checklist anywhere ?
Help !!

Chris
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From: HSTAMS@CIPVAX.BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE (Henning Stams)
Subject: Has anyone set up SLIP on a RS6k - box?
Organization: BIOLAN - COLOGNE UNIVERSITY (FRG)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:04:46 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Hello out there,

I'm trying to get slip working, but, well, something seems to be wrong.
When I configure sl0 via SMIT, all seems to be ok.

When I, however, try to ping or telnet to the destination address, I'm
told that
  network is not currently reachable
(Of course, if i leave sl0 undefined, I won't get this message but a 
timeout)

When I do 'ifconfig sl0', all seems to be fine...

Well, maybe i didn't understand the meaning of ADDRESS and DESTINATION
ADDRESS.

The fact that a route is automatically set up after defining sl0 led me
to the belief that the destination address needn't be within the
local network address!?

Is 'slattach' needed after setting up sl0 via SMIT? I thought no, but
now I'm unsure about nearly everything ;)

Thanks in advance, Henning (hstams@biolan.Uni-Koeln.DE)


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From: kalloway@hebron.wa.com (Keith L Alloway)
Subject: Re: /tmp Corrupted
Organization: Dis-spilled Reality
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:59:14 GMT

In article <8651@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen C. Woods) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.225824.3656@netcom.com> lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui) writes:
>>Recently our /tmp file system started to fill up. I went to /tmp and deleted
>>unnecessary files. However, this did not release any space in the file system
>>according to df. I went ahead and deleted all of the files in /tmp and the
>>file system was still 100% full! I ran fsck on /tmp and got:
>
>Sounds to me like some process created a file and then unlinked it, but kept
>it open.  This can lead to large amounts of disk being used with no files
>present.
>
>
>
>
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I recently experienced a similar situation in my /home file system.  It
was 100% full per df.  I located and deleted the largest file in /home.
Within minutes, it was back to 100%.  I had users delete all of the
trash files that they could and within minutes, it was back to 100%.

The problem was finally traced back to a bug in AIX indirectly.  A
process running at a pts (pseudo terminal) may not die if the telnet
session ends abnormally.  It will be orphaned and inherited by init
(process number 1) and continue to run.  In my case, there was such
a process in the system that was looking for a communication link and
writing to an error log / debug file.  As the communication link was
not available, it wrote lots of error messages.

The error file that it was using was the large file that I had
already deleted.  Once I had done that, the file was no longer
visable to an ls command, but was still allocated to the active
process.  Once I found the process and killed it, the problem
vanished.

Look for processed with a ppid=1 and (probably) an owner other than
root in a ps -ef listing.


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