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From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: NCGR workshops in R.I.
Date: 11 Sep 1992 14:38:57 GMT
Organization: Brown University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cis_staff-kntx58.cis.brown.edu

Good morning all,
Our Narragansett Bay (Rhode Island) Chapter of NCGR (National Council for
Geocosmic Research) will be hosting Joan Negus and Ken Negus, tomorrow,
September 12, 1992 from 10-4pm, in Warwick, RI.  Synastry is the subject.

I am posting the following (flier) info in hopes that you will enjoy seeing
what is happening with Astrology in our small, but illustrious state.  If any 
of you are local, please do consider yourselves invited.  If you are not local
please pass the info on to any friends you may have in the state or just consider
what we are doing and if it helps you with your local astrology groups then
it will be worth the post.


Here it is!

THE NARRAGANSETT BAY CHAPTER
of
NCGR
presents

ASTROLOGY WORKSHOPS
****************************
WHEN:  Thursday evenings 7:00 to 9:00 pm
      	     September 24, October 8, and October 22, 1992

WHERE:  Warwick Museum, next to Warwick                   	        	      					

					  City Hall, 3259 Post Rd, Warwick, RI,  plenty of parking available   
                 (401)737-0010

Do you have a question about your job, a relationship or finances?  Bring your 
chart, bring a friend and we'll all have fun exploring  the information 
astrology can provide.

The workshops are geared for both beginners and experienced astrologers.  
However, you don't have to know anything about astrology to attend or present 
a question.

Beginning in October, there will be a $3.00 charge for questions presented.

Charts are available through Carolyn Egan, call (401)781-9860.  Please have 
the birth information ready.   $2.00 per chart.  (funds to local NCGR)

Please note that due to a rent increase, the cost of the workshops will now 
be $4.00 for members and $5.00 for non-members.

Don't miss our terrific lineup of famous speakers this fall,  Joan Negus, 
Robert Hand and Alphee Lavoie!!, call Chuck Sotis at 739-5930 or 739-4746 
for details.

The Boston chapter is hosting Michael Lutin (think it's next week) and the 
Astrological Society of Connecticut will host Michael also in September.

Regards, Carol Egan
From: huntley@garbo.cs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: daylight savings confusion
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:49:47 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <1992Sep6.225246.8846@pellns.alleg.edu> acarr@pell2l10.alleg.edu (Amelia Carr) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep5.221257.15112@head-cfa.harvard.edu>  
>dmm@head-cfa.harvard.edu (David Meleedy) writes:
>> >
>> >I was told that I had not given complete enough information.. so here  
>it goes...
>> >I am a bit confused about how to figure out whether or not to add an  
>hour to my birth time due to daylight savings time.  So my question is  
>two-fold.
>> 
>> >2) Should I add 1 hour to my birth time?  My birth date is 21 Oct 1966?
>> >I was born in Boston, MA. at 8:09 pm? So do I enter 20:09 or 21:09?
>>
>In article <1992Sep6.104027.19389@news.cs.indiana.edu>  
>huntley@garbo.cs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
> 
>> The American Atlas indicates that in 1966 they changed from EDT to EST
>> on 10/30/1966 in Massachusetts, so you were born the next day and your
>> birthtime should have been written down using Eastern Standard Time,
>> so you should use 20:09 for your birthtime.
>> 
>> --Haydn
>> 
>I'm confused, Haydn.  EDT ran until Oct. 30 in 1966.  On October 21, 1966  
>they would have been using EDT, so wouldn't they have written down the  
>time in Daylight savings time?  
>   If you're "entering" a time, David, it sounds as if you're using a  
>computer program that will understand 20:09 EDT.  If the program wants  
>EST, subtract an hour (19:09), since clocks are set forward on Daylight  
>savings time. If you're calculating, EST is 5 hours behind GMT, EDT is 4  
>hours behind. 
>    I think.  I'm so used to using computers, that I hardly ever do the  
>calculations. any more... 
>  For the record, my source is _Time Changes in the USA_, rev. edition of  
>1979, by Doris Chase Doane, published by American Federation of  
>Astrologers.  
>    Amelia

Pardon me -- I made a dumb mistake.  Both of our books agree that
there was a change from EDT to EST on 10/30/1966.  My mistake was that
he was born just before the change, so he was born *during* EDT. 

--Haydn

-- 
*****************************************************
*  Haydn Huntley    huntley@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  *
*****************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From:  sashazh@face.msk.su
Subject: HOLOGRAPHIC APPROACH
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:18:45 GMT
Reply-To: sashazh@face.msk.su
Organization: unknown

     The article may be interesting for astrologists occupated
with harmonic methods and these who developes conceptual basis
of astrology.

==============================================================

        HOLOGRAPHIC APPROACH  TO  PREDICATIVE  METHODS
                   OF   HARMONIC ASTROLOGY

                  Mkhitaryan K., Izraitel B.
                     sashazh@face.msk.su

     The article   deals   with  principal  substantiation  of
astrological methods.  The formulation of holographic  concept
of astrology  is  given.  This  concept  postulates  that  all
specific principles and methods of astrology  may  be  derived
from holographical  infrastructure  of  human perception.  The
procedure of the hypothesis testing,  based on the  properties
of hologram is suggested.
     If astrological  charts  is  treated  as  hologram,  aech
fragment of  it  may  be  considered  as  a  whole  chart with
complete information about the human  being.  The  holographic
approach make  it  possible  to  transform any fragment of the
birth chart so that it becomes a new  chart  describing  human
being's destination   in   terms  of  abovementicned  fragment
(astrological house).
     This approach  promotes the application of new predictive
methods - so called "superslow" directions.  The scouping of 1
and 10  houses  in  the  charts of 3 types have been examined.
These 3 types were as follows:
     1. Carefully rectified charts of prominent people.
     2. Charts of ordinary people with strong 1 and 10 houses.
     3. Charts  of  great  people with weak and ampty 1 and 10
houses.
     The developed  approach  allows  to  identify outstanding
charts in the set of charts erected approximately for one  and
the same moment  and place.

     The complete   text  of  the  article  was  published  in
"Russian Astrological Journal", Moscow, 1991, #1.
-- 

Sincerely yours,      Alexander ZHUIKOV
                      sashazh@face.msk.su
From: rcleon@svbs01.bs.win.tue.nl (Leon Oninckx)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Astrolog 2.30 PC compiled version
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:42:17 GMT
Reply-To: rcleon@bs.win.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

If someone has successfully compiled astrolog 2.30 for the PC, would
he/she be so kind to put it for anonymous ftp on hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au?
Thanks,

-Leon
email : rcleon@win.tue.nl
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: "for a heckler, you're certainly succinct" - cool
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:06:29 GMT
Organization: TRW Financial Systems

<RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
>hey, i like that quote.  anyway, why do you think astrology works?
>i don't mean "what do you think the reason is that astrology works,"
>since i know that you can easily say, "dunno.  but it does."
>i mean, "what leads you to believe that astrology works?"

Personal experience. I've gone to shrinks for years, and my chart is
a better model of my psychology than they've been able to put together.
I've done readings for dozens of people and I am just a rank amateur,
as far as I'm concerned, and yet I have been able to give people insights
into themselves and into their relations with others.
From: deb@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (David Barrett)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Chinese Astrology and I-Ching
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:57:07 GMT
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering

Here's one to start: Chinese Astrology and Western Astrology coincide.  I 
won't elaborate.  Those who know both have discovered it for themselves.
To use any symbolic reference system to model something in the universe,
you have to play by the rules of the system.  If you cross any of them without
some kind of translation you get in trouble.  The I-Ching is not just a 
fortune teller.  That's part of it.  It comes from a philosophy (and religion
Taoism) Chinese Astrology is another part of it.  You have to back up and see
the forest to see the connection.  Keep going back and you will see that all
modeling system are connected.  The universe is ONE and the brochures are 
printed by the same publisher - NATURAL LAW!

dB
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: fretts@willee.enet.dec.com (Carole Fretts)
Subject: Re: SATURN
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:21:08 GMT


In article <fridev.1.716107815@dhhalden.no>, fridev@dhhalden.no (FRIDE VEDDE) writes...
>In article <27397.2AAB94FA@psycho.fidonet.org> Paul.Donohue@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Donohue) writes:
>>From: Paul.Donohue@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Donohue)
>>Subject: SATURN
>>Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 09:59:11 EDT
>>Hi David.
>>Right now Saturn is right around my natal Mars at 14Aq25 (on the cusp of
>>the fifth, in sextile to natal sun at 15Ar39 in the seventh). I'd
>>appreciate any comments.  FYI, the natal data for me is 4/5/58 at 5:54PM
>> EST, 73W38 40N45 (Mineola, NY).
>>
>>Thanks !
>>
>>Paul

  Hi Paul,

  Looks like the last response never got written, so here's my input to
  your question.

  The conjunction of Saturn to your natal Mars will likely manifest as
  a lower energy level.  Take time to listen to your body's needs for
  rest and put some limits on any behavior where your energy output
  might be excessive.  Your libido may be somewhat curbed as well ;^).

  You may also find that starting any creative projects might be delayed,
  or things that you are already working on may be taking a long time to
  complete.  

  Ego conflicts with authority figures could arise now also.  Perhaps old
  issues with parental authority might be triggered and bring up anger.
  It's a good opportunity to take a look at these aspects of yourself and
  help move out any energy that is stuck because it wasn't owned and
  expressed.

  Hope this helps!

  Carole

Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Astrolog for PC
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:51:28 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

Hi vrybody,

What is the latest PC compiled version of AstroLog, I have v2.00
but is there a later one?

Cheers

Kev :)
e-mail kap@eng.cam.ac.uk
Tel. UK (0223)332764
From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: To whom it may concern...
Date: 9 Sep 1992 16:52:53 GMT
Organization: Brown University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cis_staff-kntx58.cis.brown.edu


> Dear sirs/madams.
> 
> Astrological  department  of  our  firm  "Flexis"  has pleasure in
> offering You the mutual cooperation with your colleges in Russia.
> 
> We  are  going  to  publish  the  Special  Issue - "Modern Russian
> Astrology" for foreign readers, in  English.  This project can  be
> realized as a periodical edition further.
Hello there in Russia!

Your project sounds very interesting.  When you are ready to mail it 
out, please write again with the details of cost and ordering.

I;m sure there are others who would be interested in Russian Astrology

By the way, there were one or two Astrologers from Russia who attended
the United Astrology Congress in Washing DC this April, 1992. 

Do you know each other?

Regards, Carol Egan
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Reaching Majority
Organization: Berkeley Riot Counting Committee (help wanted)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:51:35 GMT

vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>kappa@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano) writes:
>> Glenn Capuano
>> Science Student
>> Monash University
>> Melbourne

>Garrett Van Cleef
>Physicist, Ph. D.
>Department of Chemistry
>The Ohio State University
>Columbus, Ohio, USA

What a touch, I was embarrassed, poor guy. TROMP(squish)

Any relation to Lee Van Cleef? He'd be more intimidated if you looked
like your brother doing his 'Ugly' from GB&U.

Seriously, it's nice to see that credentialled & other respectable people
are "coming out", tho Astrology may never have been a big bug-a-boo.
(Now if we can just liberate the Astrophysicists . . .
the shame -
the shame -
)

There is one thing these guys don't know, though I'm sure I'll be killed
to death for saying this, but astrology is a nice way for a shy guy to
meet women. Gives him something to talk about, and if he has eye-contact
problems he can always look back at the chart.

Now, if I can just find that contract from Weiser . . .
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
Subject: Re: Simpering Sophists (was Re: Nattering Nabobs)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:59:00 GMT

In article <25784@castle.ed.ac.uk>, cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes...
>In article <13SEP199216365483@vxcrna.cern.ch> casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep12.202352.17127@tfs.com>, ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes...
> 
>>Finally, let's set our sights lower than "account[ing] for astrology"  just
>>show me one unambiguous claim which is supported by a body of reproducible
>>evidence.
> 
>There isn't one, and given the reluctance of research funding bodies
>to get mired in that bog, there isn't likely to be one. Too bad. Now
>will you go away and play somewhere else?

Nope.

Dave


P.S. Do you know a guy named Richard Kirby who does ai in Edinburgh?

Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe)
Subject: Re: looking for some astrological data
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:45:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

>Im looking for some astrological data. 
>First Im interested in the birthdates of well known
>and important persons. (Birthdates includes time, date and place)
>Second Im out for longitudes and latitudes of citys from
>all over the world. 

Matrix Software (Ann Arbor, Michigan) sells diskettes with
birthdata of various famous people.  One diskette is scientists,
another is writers and artists, etc.

Astro Computing Service (San Diego, California) has the
American Atlas and International Atlas with coordinates and
time zones and changes for the world.  These are in book or
electronic form. 

Both companies will send you a catalog for free.

I'm looking for birthdata of married couples.  I haven't
found such a diskette.
-- 
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe          kehoe@netcom.com         (408) 354-5926
Date: Saturday, 12 Sep 1992 16:19:59 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: nancy reagan

oh, by the way, what's this about "if it's good enough for nancy reagan,
it's good enough for you" ? ronnie certainly isn't my idea of a dream mate.
From: agray@axion.bt.co.uk (Andy Gray)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: astrological fonts available for ftp
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:50:28 GMT
Organization: BT Laboratories

In article <bulmer.716181275@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, bulmer@hilbert.cc.utas.edu.au (Michael R. Bulmer) writes:
|> 
|> I have just uploaded some astrological fonts for ftping on the file server
|> hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au (131.217.60.1) in the directory pub/astrology/fonts.
|> 

I have a PostScript version of the Astro-SemiBold font, called Astro, which works
fine on a NeXT or on standard laser printers. (Thanks to Gary T Czychi for the
conversion). A couple of the glyphs deserve the comment "could do better" but the
font is quite usable.

[Michael, can you mail me as attempts to get this to you are failing, thanks]

   ^__^				 ___ 	 ___ 	 ___ 	 ___ 	 ___
  (-  0)	Andy		<*,*>	<*,*>	<*,*>	<*,*>	<*,*>
  | \/ |			[`-']	[`-']	[`-']	[`-']	[`-']
  \    /    NeXTMail Welcome	-"-"-	-"-"-	-"-"-	-"-"-	-"-"-
====^^======================================================================
    \/		Software Technology Division, SSTF/306, British Telecom
	        Research Labs., Martlesham Heath, Ipswich IP5 7RE, U.K.
Andy Gray       Tel: +44 473 646647    e-mail: agray@axion.bt.co.uk
	        "L'amour c'est aveugle, l'amitie ferme les yeux"
============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: lewr@mirsky.caltech.edu (Rex Lew)
Subject: Astrolog
Keywords: Astrolog
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:55:10 GMT

A few months ago, a program call Astrolog for UNIX based machines was posted.
I've lost my copy since I just moved recently, so I'd appreciate it if somebody
would be kind enough to repost it?

Thanks!


Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: deb@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (David Barrett)
Subject: Caves and dark places
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:48:33 GMT


>Greetings all. I am new to this newsgroup, and I am surprised to
>find so many messages devoted to such a thoroughly discredited
>superstition as astrology. Yes, that's right, I'm a skeptic (couldn't
>guess could you! :-) )e

>As I'm sure you know, many skeptics groups have rewards offered
>for correct predictions by astrologers. In particular, Australian Skeptics
>offers $10,000 to any astrologer who can, given someone's date and time of
>birth, and the dates and times of ten events in their life, state what
>those events were. Until such time as this challenge is taken up, I remain
>unconvinced.
>

Those who prefer caves and dark places (even though they think the light
is on) and would solicit the tiresome and unnecessay aid of those with
better things to do than to lead them out into the light, a wee bit of s
suggestion is at hand:  Find your own way out, the rest of us did.  
Unconvinced is a sorry place to be.  Good luck! :-)


dB
Date: Saturday, 12 Sep 1992 16:16:58 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: "for a heckler, you're certainly succinct" - cool

hey, i like that quote.  anyway, why do you think astrology works?
i don't mean "what do you think the reason is that astrology works,"
since i know that you can easily say, "dunno.  but it does."
i mean, "what leads you to believe that astrology works?"
From: vgs@llaor.unice.fr (Virginie Gracia-Soria)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Pluto and AIDS
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:07:01 GMT
Reply-To: ol@mimosa.unice.fr
Organization: University of Nice - Sophia Antipolis, France

It is difficult not to notice the similitudes between the symbolic nature of Pluto and the AIDS epidemy:
	- blood (symbolized by Mars, co-ruler of Scorpio) and sexual transmission
	- fears arisen by a mortal worlwide-spread epidemy
	- absence of symptoms before the disease breaks out (Pluto's invisibility)
	- its viral nature attacking the immune system (viruses and the immune system are both ruled by Pluto)
	- the discovery of HIV 1 happened right before Pluto entered the Scorpio sign (death, transformation and mutation).

Has anyone already tried to figure out this kind of correlations ? Have you heard of any studies done on this subject ?

It is quite amazing to find out in Pluto's discovery chart (Feb. 18th, 1930 at 11 p.m. GMT in Flagstaff, AZ):
	- Pluto is in the XIIth House (house of plagues, etc)
	- Saturn is in the VIth House (house of health and diseases)
	- in symbolic directions (1 degree = 1 year): Pluto makes a perfect trine to Saturn 51 years and 2 months after its discovery, ie end of April 1981. The official announcement of the discovery of a new epidemy (later to be baptized AIDS) was made on June 5th, 1981 in Atlanta, GA !!!.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions and debate.

Virginie.
From: acarr@pell2l10.alleg.edu (Amelia Carr)
Subject: Re: daylight savings confusion 
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:52:46 GMT

> In article <1992Sep5.221257.15112@head-cfa.harvard.edu>  
dmm@head-cfa.harvard.edu (David Meleedy) writes:
> >
> >I was told that I had not given complete enough information.. so here  
it goes...
> >I am a bit confused about how to figure out whether or not to add an  
hour to my birth time due to daylight savings time.  So my question is  
two-fold.
> 
> >2) Should I add 1 hour to my birth time?  My birth date is 21 Oct 1966?
> >I was born in Boston, MA. at 8:09 pm? So do I enter 20:09 or 21:09?
>
In article <1992Sep6.104027.19389@news.cs.indiana.edu>  
huntley@garbo.cs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
 
> The American Atlas indicates that in 1966 they changed from EDT to EST
> on 10/30/1966 in Massachusetts, so you were born the next day and your
> birthtime should have been written down using Eastern Standard Time,
> so you should use 20:09 for your birthtime.
> 
> --Haydn
> 
I'm confused, Haydn.  EDT ran until Oct. 30 in 1966.  On October 21, 1966  
they would have been using EDT, so wouldn't they have written down the  
time in Daylight savings time?  
   If you're "entering" a time, David, it sounds as if you're using a  
computer program that will understand 20:09 EDT.  If the program wants  
EST, subtract an hour (19:09), since clocks are set forward on Daylight  
savings time. If you're calculating, EST is 5 hours behind GMT, EDT is 4  
hours behind. 
    I think.  I'm so used to using computers, that I hardly ever do the  
calculations. any more... 
  For the record, my source is _Time Changes in the USA_, rev. edition of  
1979, by Doris Chase Doane, published by American Federation of  
Astrologers.  
    Amelia
From: astrolog@byron.u.washington.edu (Astrolog)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: * Astrolog birthchart program version 2.30 [Part 11/12] Makefile
Summary: (Aquarius) "Makefile" compiling script for Unix systems.
Keywords: Astrolog 2.30
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:20:11 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

# Makefile for Unix Astrolog version 2.30 (astrolog@byron.u.washington.edu)
# First created 11/21/1991
#
# This Makefile is included only for convenience. One could easily compile
# Astrolog on a Unix system by hand with the command:
# % cc -c *.c; cc -o astrolog *.o -lm -lX11
#
# Generally, all that needs to be done to compile once astrolog.h has been
# edited, is compile each source file, and link them together with the math
# library, and if applicable, the main X library.
#
NAME = astrolog
OBJ = data.o formulas.o charts.o options.o xcharts.o graphics.o driver.o
# If you don't have X windows, delete the "-lX11" part from the line below:
LIBS = -lm -lX11
CFLAGS = -O

astrolog:: $(OBJ)
	cc -o $(NAME) $(OBJ) $(LIBS)
	strip $(NAME)
#