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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:43:40 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:


>Dave> I had no credit, and I had no capital, so I had to rely on character.  
>Dave> Since I'm such a wonderful person this wasmn't problem :-) But,
>Dave> seriously, the way you dress, the way you talk, and the way you
>Dave> behave yourself is important. IMNO, getting angry and claiming
>Dave> injustices doesn't do a lot for your character! 

>Well, probably getting angry would not resolve the problem, but 
>to claim injustice is a right for any person in this world. 

I guess ... but I guess it also depends if you want to fight for
justice or just get a credit card. 

>People
>could have stereotyped images that someone "blue-eyed, blond,
>with suits" would be more reliable than another groups. I know

That's the kind of case I was talking about. When I was just out of
the air force as an enlisted man, didn't have any money, and didn't
have a job I was still able to get a credit card. 

No matter how solid the situation looks from a distance, IMHO
there are also loopholes and other oddities that appear if you
look close enough.

>that in California, minorities as black people or "hispanics"
>(I don't like this expression...) are refused more frequently
>to receive mortgages loans than white people with same income
>level. And I particularly admire one person's character when
>file a complain about prejudice. Never late to say, but oppresion
>leads to mental suffering what could cause someone to become
>"angry".

Hmmmm, when I hear people complain I think they are lazy. It's a lot
easier to complain than do what it take to get what you want. 

Dave

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From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:35:59 GMT
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In-reply-to: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp's message of 14 Sep 92 14:09:22 GMT

In article <ISHIKAWA.92Sep14230936@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:
 |Correct me if I am wrong, but I think U.S.A. is in the minority in
 |that the country gives a baby born in U.S.A. automatic nationality (or
 |was it citizenship). I believe there are more countries in the world
 |who don't have this practice especially in the Old World (including
 |Japan). It looks to me that U.S.A. and some countries in the New World
 |wanted to have as much as population as possible by giving favorable
 |treatment to babies born even on an airplane flying over the U.S. air
 |space!

So which are you supporting, the New World or the Old World?

I do supoort the New World because the way of doing things in the Old
World irritates me and would probably be against my philosophy.

A few comments:

Being a minority does not necessarily mean being a wrong thing.

What are you going to choose as an alternative if reciprocity on a
relationship between two countries is not respectable anymore?

I am not personally accusing you, but I see some lack of logical
reasoning in your above comment.

// Kenji
From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:00:18 GMT
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In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 8 Sep 92 08:24:00 GMT


 >>It's very interesting, but usually "naive"things hurts more than
 >>things made intentionally when those things happens continously,
 >>in my opinion.

The worst criminals are those who commit crime without knowing about
it. Ignorance is no power at all - and the second worst one is those
who believe what they are doing is the right thing :)

// Kenji
From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:45:00 GMT
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Sumio>  |> Remember, at the immigration desks in Narita Airport, the indications
Sumio>  |> were 'Japanese' and 'Alien' (recently, changed into another word).
Sumio>  |
Sumio>  |Really?
Sumio>  |It's only mean the officials to order that indications did not know
Sumio>  |English. :-)
Sumio>  | 

In fact, it's not wrong to write Alien in English refering to foreigners.
Alien is a "legal" and "official" term to refer to foreigners, usually.
However, I would like to change it to something like:"Japanese and
residents" and "foreigner passports". (I was surprised, but in fact
the "japanese" side WAS NOT only to japanese, but for foreigners having
a re-entry visa too!! )

ciao,
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From: kim@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Kim Tong Ho)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:56:08 GMT
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

>Two years ago, when I thought to get the ASCII card to use
>ASCII-net, I was refused even having enough salary and etc....

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From: aki@mel.toshiba.CO.JP (Yoshiaki Kohno)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:54:45 GMT
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In-reply-to: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp's message of 4 Sep 92 03:20:11 GMT

Just my comment.

okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto) writes:
 >You are in Japan, ANOTHER civilized world, something different from
 >your mother land.  It's very natural, I think.
 >
 >How wrong the Jpanese way ?  It's our custum.
 >I don't think it's wrong.
 >It's a way to unify people's consensus to do something concentrating
 >all the powers without loss.  If you need, we can outport it to you.:-)

I don't think it's natural to adapt Japanese way in Japan. One choses
the way which he/she thinks best.  It doesn't matter whether it come from
Japan or USA or anywhere else.  IMHO, in so called Japanese way
individuals are often sacrificed for the sake of 'unity'.  I know
cases where self-sacrifice is appreciated as one of Japanese virtue,
and I don't like it.

 >We should have much more chance to tell our custum to foreigners,
 >particularly to whom cannot doubt that the way of Western custom is wright
 >eternally, so I need fj.life.in-Japan.  This is another reason. ^_^

I don't say Western custom is best, nor non-Japaneses should behave as
Japaneses do. But anyway I agree to the creation of the newsgroup. It
surely is a GOOD THING (from "1066 and all that", the names of authors
loose me right now) to have a place for discussion among non-Japanese
and Japanese, that I am.
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IRC, Manufacturing Engineering Research Center, TOSHIBA Corp.
From: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Summary: I would not like to change my behaviour in Japan
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:43:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Univ. of Osaka Prefecture, Dept of Earth Science, Sakai, Japan

In article <INAGAKI.92Sep4172823@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp>, inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki) writes:

> We Japanese had better be more direct when we talk to Americans.

Oh, Really ?

If I would stay in another country, I may change my way of expression.
However, this is MY OWN land, Japan.  Why I should adapt to Americans,
or any other nations' way of behaviour ? 
So, I do not believe any word of 'internationalization' of Japan.

I consider, now, those problems from the different points of view.

If some foreigners want to live in Japan, and want to _be_ Japanese.
And if he/she is willing to do something for Japan/Japanese.
Then, Japanese can accept them as Japanese ?

I think this is the most important point.  Of course, Japan is not a
country constructed by many kinds of immigrants.  So we should have
some criteria how to accept _new Japanese_ into our nation.
Or we should not accept any _new Japanese_.

For example,
If they say they swear the Constitution of Japan anf laws of Japan,
is that enough ?

If foreigners want to live in Japan only as a traveller or in a short
period, no significant problem does not occur, does it? 
Of course I'm aware of many problems for foreigners.

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From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:43:56 GMT
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In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 8 Sep 92 06:32:36 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Sep8153236@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
 >>Really, I would like to know... :-) However, when I say that
 >>I came from Brazil, everybody says: "Oh! Drink this and that
 >>coffee", when I say:"No, I don't drink coffee" eveybody get
 >>so surprised:"How can! You're a brazilian! (sic)". And the
 >>same thing for "soccer", "carnival", "samba", etc. etc.

Tendency of this sort of stereotyping is quite strong in Japanese
society. In Japan one is supposed to belong to a group and is supposed
to have the attributes or characteristics of the group - if you are
from Kanto you are not supposed to speak Kansai dialect, and vice
versa. :) In fact you can find a lot of exceptional cases.

 >>It's very
 >>interesting because when working and I say that I'm a brazilian
 >>everybody start to think different about me, because in their
 >>first thoughts they thouhgt I was american, and wonder how
 >>a "brazilian" can know all those things... (sic) :-)

Another weird tendency of Japanese is to guess all non-Japanese
residents are "Americans." (No offence intended to U.S. citizens)
Japanese tend to rank a person by where he/she is from. This is
nothing but a discrimination, although this sort of behavior can be
found everywhere in the world.

 >>Many times many japanese said to my
 >>wife:"Hey you cannot be american!" (she is a taiwanese-american)
 >>or "I think your english is strange" (god.. she is american!
 >>but how she doesn't look "american", many japanese say this
 >>kind of stupid things.)

This shows a typical recognition of citizenship in Japan. Most of
Japanese citizens are black-or-brown-eyed and have black-or-brown
hair. Quite a lot of people here misunderstand that your parents have
to be Japanese if you are Japanese. The idea of immigration itself is
still considered foreign here because of an illusion that Japan
consists of one ethnic group, which has not been dead yet since WWII.

 >>		Gaijin Touroku Card: Don't leave home without it!

Another discriminative action of our government to non-Japanese
residents - why not they force us to keep ID cards? :)

// Kenji
From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:42:22 GMT
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In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 15 Sep 92 22:09:13 GMT

In article <2690@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
 |Thus to repeat my original query (and I sure wish we had some Korean
 |nationals replying), I'm curious as to why the change of name (only
 |some marks on a piece of paper) is considered so important while the
 |fact of losing Korean nationality isn't mentioned (a real problem, I
 |would think). 

Because during Japan's annexation of Korea (1910-1945) Japanese
government FORCED to change their names and DID NOT ACCEPT their OWN
name for official documents. The issue is not logical but a very
emotional one.

Something undocumented is often much more important than something
written in the paper.

// Kenji
From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:53:07 GMT
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In-reply-to: aki@mel.toshiba.CO.JP's message of 10 Sep 92 10:54:50 GMT

In Yedo era Japan was splitted and governed by many "Han"s or states
:) And languages/dialects spoken were hardly the same among those
states :)

In article <AKI.92Sep10195450@kagari.mel.toshiba.CO.JP> aki@mel.toshiba.CO.JP (Yoshiaki Kohno) writes:

 |And the members of most Mura have a illusion that "Our Mura is THE
 |typical community", and stop thinking any further.

Well it's not only Japan. You can find a lot of egocentric societies
in other countries. People tend to think they are the best.

 |By the way, though the topic of this thread may be suitable to
 |soc.culture.japan or whatever in soc, I have no access to soc
 |newsgroups. Therefore, I support life-in-japan NG. 

It's very sad to find out that only few domains in Japan are
read-write accessible to non-fj newsgroups. And it's really disgusting
that very very few Japanese domains are paying money for overseas
email traffic. I urge those domain to subscribe international mail
service such as InetClub or UUNET ASAP; otherwise they do a very
harmful thing to our Internet society.

// Kenji
From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:57:37 GMT
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Dave> I've also heard (in s.c.j.) that it isn't possible to be a dual
Dave> national so if they become Japanese, they have to give up their
Dave> Korean nationality. According to the thread, this doesn't apply only
Dave> to Koreans but to anybody: it isn't possible to have Japanese
Dave> nationality and any other. 

Not only you will lose your nationality as you have to "adapt" your
name for Katakana, Hiragana or Kanji(with Japanese spelling), what
make them lose their original names (in some sense).

Dave> However, while there was some authoritative evidence given that it
Dave> *is* possible for U.S. citizens to be dual nationals (changed maybe
Dave> 10 years ago?) there wasn't any for Japan. Can anybody confirm this? 

Yes and No. You have to give up all nationalities you had before you
became a US citizen, however after you got your citizenship you can
hold another nationalities under some restrictions (You can only
hold these nationalities on the base of convenience, then you 
cannot give the impression that another country is "more important"
than US for you, like doing military service, holding political
posts, etc...) There is a very nice FAQ about this question in
USENET.

In Japan, dual citizenship will be permitted only before you have
20 years old. After that you have to choose what nationality
you want. (In fact, I have some friends who didn't do that option
and still hold their japanese nationality, but this is illegal)
If you naturalize japanese you must give up your nationalities.

ciao,
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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: marbm-b@ascii.co.jp (Marcos Bachir Mubaied)
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Organization: ASCII Corp. Tokyo, Japan
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:49:21 GMT


	okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp Fri Sep 11 10:48:41 1992
	writes:


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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:09:51 GMT
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Kenji> $@LdBj$OJD$8O6$C$F$$$k?MC#$K<+J,C#$,JD$8O6$C$F$$$k$H$$$&<+3P$,$J$$$3$H$K(J
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Kenji> $@9M$($F$$$^$9!#!!(J

I don't think we live in a "closed" society as was in the USSR. If you
want access to information, this wouldn't be that difficult. The problem
is some people close inside themselves and reject any kind of different
values and information. I always heard something like |$@!VF|K\$OEg9q$G$9(J
$@$+$i;EJ}$,$J$$!#!#!W(J YES! Welcome to Zhipangu: The shikata-ga-nai-no-kuni!
Everything you want to do and cannot, you will hear a shikata-ga-nai...
I think the media, the education, the government make the people believe
in their "uniqueness" and many people don't think they need to adapt
to what the world is requiring about Japan: A leadership to make new
financial, economical, political and moral values.(My opinion)


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From: dave@appi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Tokyo Journal, Heroes, Fukushima Mizuho
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:25:04 GMT
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In-reply-to: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp's message of 9 Sep 92 16:42:20 GMT

In article <ISHIKAWA.92Sep10014234@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:
>   Who else could we include in this list?
>
>A Dumb question.

Well excuuuuuuuuuuuze me $@$G$4$6$$$^$9!*(J

>  Why do you include Dave Specter in the Tokyo
>Anit-heroes?

His sexist remarks and the attitude that he represents the Real American
Point of View are why I bought a TV with a remote control.

> He sometimes (not ALWAYS) does an interesting interview
>in weekly Bunsyun (in japanese). The recent one with a
>nationalistic(?) composer Mayuzumi was interesting piece to learn
>about what Mayuzumi is thinking (not about Dave Specter, mind you. He
>speaks Japanese too much :-) and terrible jokes sometimes at that :-);-))

I haven't read any of these.  But I would agree that his jokes are
terrible.

>For a list for the hero, do the people have to live in Tokyo? I want
>to include a writer, Inoue Hisashi, but I think he lives in Chiba or
>somewhere.

I don't think Tokyo is necessary, since we know that all superheroes can
either fly or teleport.

>Or I might want to add Okadome who is the editor of an alternative
>type information magazine called Uwasa no Shinso (Truth behind the
>rumors)...
>... Publishing this type of magazine does require some form of
>courage and we should count him in hero list (at least near the bottom).
>[Maybe Okadome ought to be in also anti-hero list. Cause you don't
>want to be a hero whose image is tarnished in his magazine, and so he
>is anti-hero, got it? :-)... (Er..., this is NOT the yor original meaning of
>anti-hero, of course(?)]

Maybe a Meta-antihero?

Dave
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David Wuertele, Yasuda Lab, Electronic Engineering, Institute of Industrial Science,
University of Tokyo.				dave@windsor.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp