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From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Re: Request for comments; selections from Cadence
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:14:37 GMT

hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
>Paolo Fresu:  a whole bunch of stuff on Splasch.  Any recommendations?
>Sidepeople listed include Dave Liebman, Tracanna, Troves.

Since Fresu is my favourite (living) trumpeter, I have a ton of his CDs.
I highly recommend his two most recent offerings: LIVE IN MONTPELLIER
(Splasch 301) and OSSI DI SEPPIA (Splasch 350).   He's very much in
the Milesean mold -- but I have yet to find him derivative in an annoying
way.  Quite the contrary, it is the freshness of his sound that I enjoy.

MONTPELLIER is 73 minutes, and a fine example of his concert style
(ala Miles) of running tunes together (these include some of the
best of his own compositions from previous studio albums, plus
Round Midnight, Only Women Bleed, and Well You Needn't).  You get
a good dose of his tasteful electronic effects here.

OSSI is a studio session.  If you're into clarinets, check this out
for some fine work by Troves.   The title track is a gorgeous
ballad with an intermittent stop-time filled only by the lightest of
brushwork.  Ettore Fioravanti provides inspired drumming on both CDs.
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From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Re: Cadence Poll
Reply-To: John Thomas <jgthomas@bnr.ca>              
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:01:20 GMT

In article <1h9u6eINN3nc@specialist.genrad.com>, gwl@specialist.genrad.com (Glenn W. Lea) writes:
|> Here are the readers' poll results from the Jan 92 Cadence.
|> There are also lists for all the critics.
|> It's a great issue -- 16 pages longer than normal.  They review
|> nearly 200 releases this issue plus have room for interviews with Steve
|> Kuhn and Stephane Grappelli.
|> They say they'll keep it that long if enough people start subscribing.
|> Hint hint!!!
|> 
|> New:
|> M.R. Abrams	 Blu*3
|> Ernie Krivda	 EKJazz
|> Cecil Taylor	 Looking Corona
|> Joe Henderson	 Lush Life
|> Getz/Barron	 People Live
|> Weston		 Spirits of Ancestors

This one is very good.  I'm glad to see this one made the reader's poll.

|> Guy/Phillips	 Arcus

Ditto.  Thanks for the recommendation, Bill!

|> W. Breuker	 Heibel
|> D. Byron	 Tuskegee
|> D. Murray	 Big Band
|> H. Tapscott	 Dark Tree 2
|> Coleman/Rollins	 Paris Concert
|> Evan Parker	 Process & Reality

This also is good but I agree with Richard Shapiro on this one--
Parker is more interesting in his group work.  And yes, ELF
BAGATELLEN is awesome.  Thanks for the recommendation, Richard.

|> 
|> Reissue:
|> Coltrane	 Major Works
|> Giuffre		 1961
|> Basie		 Complete Decca
|> Coltrane	 Live in Japan
|> Sun Ra		 Jazz in Silhouette
|> B. Holiday	 Complete Decca
|> C. Taylor	 One too Many
|> Sun Ra		 Supersonic Jazz
|> Ayler		 Love Cry
|> Mingus		 Let My Children
|> 
|> Comments?
|> 
|> Glenn Lea
|> 

What? No Braxton at Willisau?! Maybe it's the price of the set
putting off a lot of readers. What about the NAKED LUNCH soundtrack???

I recently picked up the trio CD WHEN SILENCE PULLS by Plimley,
Ellis, and Cyrille on the Music and Arts label and it is very 
good piano trio music.  I believe it came out in '92.  Hope it
made some of the critic's polls.  More on the avant side.

Plimley (p) and Ellis (b) are involved in the new music scene in Canada.

And BTW, I am subscribing this time...
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From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Jazz on CBC/SRC
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:28:31 GMT

I realize this may be of little interest to those who cannot get CBC
stations, but CBC is heard in the northern US and so might be of
use even to some who are not Canadian.  The SRC (Societe
Radio-Canada) French Stereo network is very limited, but is heard in
Ottawa and Toronto as well as throughout Quebec.  CBC broadcasts on
different frequencies across Canada.


Jazz on CBC/SRC stations in Canada

CBC (ENGLISH) STEREO

Saturday
--------
Jazzland        1200 - 1330 (1305 Atlantic. 1335 Newfoundland Time)
                  Will end earlier if Metropolitan Opera starts early.
                  Occasionally will not air at all when Met starts at
                  noon.  All records, new and old and mostly mainstream.

Jazz Beat       2000-2200
                  Recorded performances (some live - some in studio
                  especially for Jazz Beat) and records.  Hour 1
                  features a Canadian group and hour 2 features a
                  non-Canadian group recorded in Canada (at a festival 
                  or a club)

Sunday
------
Easy Street     1500-1700 (new time)  
                  classic jazz (CD reissues mainly)


CBC (ENGLISH) RADIO [mix of AM and FM mono stations]

Sunday
--------
My Kinda Jazz   1500-1700 (starting January 24)
                  Vintage jazz (1917-42) presented by pop/blues 
                  musician Jeff Healy from his own collection of 78s 
                  and reissues.

Jazz Beat       2300-0100 (0035 Newfoundland)
                  Repeat of previous day's Stero show


Query: Given the relative paucity of jazz, why did CBC schedule two of
the few shows it offers in competition (Easy Street and My Kinda Jazz)



SRC (FRENCH) STEREO

Saturday
--------
Jazz sur le vif  2200-2300
                    Recorded concerts

Sunday
------
Jazz sur le vif  2200-2300
                    Recorded concerts

Monday-Thursday
---------------
X Y Jazz         2230-0000
                    Records

Friday
------
Jazz sur le vif  2230-0000
                    Records

Schedule of recorded concerts and studio sessions

Jazz Beat (Saturday 2000 Stereo network, Sunday 2300 Radio network)

Date           Hour 1                         Hour 2
--------- -----------------------  ----------------------------   
Jan 2/3      Mike Murley             Gonzalo Rubalcaba
Jan 9/10     Jacek Kochun            Dave McKenna
Jan 16/17    Wayne Feschuk           Charlie Haden & LMO
Jan 23/24    Sonny Greenwich         Sheila Jordan/Harvie Swartz
Jan 30/31    Hugh Fraser             Joe Morello

Jazz sur le vif (Saturday 2200 French Stereo, Sunday 2200 French
Stereo - different programs each day)

Jan 2       Trio Emmanuel Bex
Jan 3       Trio Jean-Francois Prins
Jan 9       Trio de Charles Papasoff
Jan 10      John Scofield/Paul Bley
From: nat92-23@math.chalmers.se (Jakob Schlyter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Yellowjackets
Keywords: fusion,jazz
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:27:06 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden


	Is there somebody out there who could help me in my search of all of
Yellowjackets' albums? I have the following:

	Yellowjackets
	Mirage a Trois
	Samurai Samba
	Shades
	Four Corners
	Politics
	The Spin
	Green House
	Live Wires


Regards,

/Jakob

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Jakob Schlyter

Tradeshill 2885                      E-mail: nat92-23@math.chalmers.se
S-448 91 Floda                       Phone : +46-302-363 62
Sweden







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From: len@gibbon.cornell.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ellington suggestions
Nntp-Posting-User: @cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University CIT
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:07:24 GMT

I got a lot of enjoyment out of "And His Mother Called Him Bill", a mememorial
to Billy Strayhorn.

My all-time favorite Ellington album when I was growing up in the 50's
was Uptown, has a great extended version of The Mooche, and a free-for-all
jam on Perdido, Betty Roche's great vocal on A-Train, and other great stuff.
The CD I recently got is as good as I remember it.

The OJC album featurning Paul Gonsalves is very good too.

...there are lots more...

Lenny
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: ALBERT KING
Date: 22 Dec 1992 22:35:43 GMT
Organization: Sun
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In article <1992Dec22.213157.3530@news.mentorg.com> jhale@mentorg.com (Jim Hale) writes:
>Any opinions on which of Albert's recordings are the best? I've heard some
>of his recordings were attempts at funk/disco crossover and I definately
>want to avoid anything along these lines.

The '67-'70 era is my personal favorite. The stuff with Booker T
and the MGs especially "Born Under A Bad Sign" is just solid
compositionally, rhythm section wise, and the solos soar. In this
period also is "Live At The Fillmore West" taken from a gig that
featured Hendrix and John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. The album
features chorus after incredible chorus of King's trademark
string bending. A rarity that is also incredible is his version,
some 5 or 6 minutes long, of James Brown's "Cold Sweat" issued
as a Stax b-side, that is one long solo after another, broken only
by the head repeated a few times. One mark of a great musician is
an identifiably singular sound and no one had that more than Albert.


....
jimh@west.sun.com
From: subotic@osl440a.erim.org (Nik Subotic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Ellington suggestions
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:49:18 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan



Hi all,

I've recently been listening to Ellington with renewed fervor and was
wondering where to go from here.  Most of the things I have are the
Columbia(? - might be Atlantic) reissues such as Jazz Party, Live at
Newport, Blues in Orbit, Indigoes and the Far East Suite (this ones
not on Columbia).  Wonderful stuff, BTW.  I'm interested in
suggestions as to where to go from here.  The above list seems to be
based in the mid 50s to early 60s.  As with a number of artists with
long and storied careers, there are a huge number of possible
selections in the bins which makes a novice somewhat intimidated.
I'll be very interested in what your suggestions are (they don't have
to be from that time period, etc.).

Thanks

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Optical and IR Science Laboratory
Environmental Research Institute of Michigan 
P.O. Box 134001                              
Ann Arbor, MI 48113-4001                     
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From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Ornette recordings
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:11:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Two questions about obscure Ornette recordings:

Is there more than one record going by the name "Broken Shadows"?
I'm thinking of the record in a Columbia (?) reissue series with
"Happy House," "School Work" etc. and two songs from the sessions
with Cedar Walton and Jim Hall  (no joke!)

Is the recent CD of Ornette/Redman/Haden/Blackwell live in East
Germany or something like that the same as the "European Concert"
LP issued on Unique Jazz (has "Broken Shadows", "Song for Che",
others).  How is the sound on these (or this if they are the same
concert.)

-Ben
From: lell@dec2.wu-wien.ac.at (Christoph Lell )
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: COLTRANE SUGGESTIONS...
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:53:41 GMT
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien
Distribution: world
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In article <1hs7o4INNan9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, by785@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robin Gibson) writes:
|> 
|> Greetings!  I am interested in adding some Coltrane to my collection but
|> I have no idea as to where to start.  Please email me any suggestions
|> you may have!  Many thanks!
|> 


I'd recommend GRP/Impulse  "Live in Japan" a 4 CD collection. :-)

In all seriousness though, this is great stuff, but has anybody listened
to more than one disc in a row?

-- 
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From: mcnamara@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Cadence Poll/"Best of 92"
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:32:38 GMT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

In article <1h9u6eINN3nc@specialist.genrad.com>, 
gwl@specialist.genrad.com (Glenn W. Lea) writes:
> Here are the readers' poll results from the Jan 92 Cadence.
> 
> New:
> M.R. Abrams	 Blu*3
> Cecil Taylor	 Looking Corona	(Downbeat: One Too Many)
> Joe Henderson	 Lush Life	
> Getz/Barron	 People Live
> Weston	 Spirits of Ancestors
> D. Byron	 Tuskegee
> D. Murray	 Big Band

	The above all got 4 1/2 to 5 stars in Downbeat reviews the past year.
Missing from the above, but included in the list of Downbeat 5 star
releases are:

Red Rodney	Then and Now
Hemphill	Fat Man and the Hard Blues
Anthony Davis	Malcolm X
Scott Hamilton	Race Point
David Murray	Hope Scope
Braxton		Eugene and 2 Compositions
Pullen		Kele Mou Bana
Shore/Ornette	Naked Lunch Soundtrack
Max Roach	To the Max!

	as well as a few others.  Errors all due to my transcription.
> 
> Comments?
> Glenn Lea

	Thanks for typing it in.  The above will form the basis of a 
"favorite releases of 92"  jazz show.  On a slightly morbid tone, we
lost George Adams, June Tyson, Ed Blackwell, Art Blakey, and Charles 
Tyler this year.  What names are missing from this list?


						Curt
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From: mdifulvi@bilbo.encore.com (Michael Difulvio)
Subject: ALBERT KING 
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:22:48 GMT

The *King of the Blues* Albert King, died yesterday of heart failure.
He was 69 years old.

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From: say@monashee.sfu.ca (Daniel Say)
Subject: Re: Blues Radio listing
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:05:18 GMT

scott@sklib.usask.ca writes:

>>            B L U E S       R A D I O      L I S T I N G
>>            *********       *********      *************
>>City             Station/Freq    Day/Time          Show
>>-------          ------------    ------------      ------------------
>>Calgary, Alberta    CBC  93.7    Sat 3:30-5:30pm   "Saturday Night Blues"
>>  (I was told by several people that this program runs on various
>>   CBC stations, AM and FM, across Canada, sometimes from 11pm-1am)

>Holger Petersen, who hosts the show, was recently awarded a Juno for his
>CD compliation "Saturday Night Blues: The Great Canadian Blues Project
>Volume 1". It won the "Best Roots and Traditional Music" category.
>(SPCD 1172/VRCD 1014)
      Mr. Peterson from Edmonton, Alberta
       runs Stoney Plain Records
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From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: Ron Carter plays Bach?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:12:31 GMT

rons@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>	I just saw at the station that I am a DJ at a new CD from Blue
>Note called "Ron Carter Plays Bach". I did not get a chance to listen
>to it, although I expect that it is good. There seemed to be a diverse
>selection of material from Bach on it, and I think it was solo
>performances.

Well, I finally got around to picking this up and listening to it. As a fan
of Carter (although not of some of the groups he has led), and a fan of Bach,
I'm a bit disappointed.

First of all, this is not a US release of the Eruopean Philips Carter/Bach
CD that I have mentioned here before (which I don't own because $28 at
Tower for a 45 minute CD seemed obscene). That one is the one which at
least has some movements from the Cello Suites (which Carter is supposed
to like an practice). This release is a 1991 recording, and it does not
include anything from the cello suites. It is a Blue Note release, but
it is a Toshiba-EMI recording released under licence to Blue Note.

Carter is the only musician, but some cuts are multitracked, with Carter
playing both double bass (usually plucked) and his "picolo bass" (usually
bowed). The overdubbed tracks are from things like the Orchestral Suites
(the (in)famous AIR [on a G string]) and the Cantatas (including the
ubiquitous JOY and the commonly heard WACHTEN AUF and ARIOSO from Cantata
156). Even if you don't know these pieces by name, you will recognize them
when you hear them. Solo pieces inlcude movements from the solo violin
partitas (usually thought of as companion pieces tothe cello suites)
and the Well Tempered Clavier.

The solo bass pieces are very good: transcription to bass is interesting,
and Carter's playing is precise, true to the written music, but still
with a touch that lets you know he is a jazz musician (as does John Lewis
in his readings of the WTC). I wish the whole CD was like these.

The multitracked ones, however, don't make it for me. They sound "sappy"
(I just can't think of a better word). The bowed picolo bass just seems
to lack the power of the bowed cello on versions of the cello suites I
have heard (including YoYo Ma and Casals). In places, particularly on
the Arioso from Cantanta 156, it sound to these admitedly untrained
(but well used) ears like he misses a few notes--I'd like to hear
comments from some trained ears (Marc S?) on that if they get a chance
to hear the CD.

I would still love to hear him play the cello suites, plucked or bowed,
solo.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and The Wire
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:19:26 GMT
Reply-To: corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

While I find heroin particularly frightening, there is an interesting
thread in Ira Gitler's excellent book, "Swing to Bop." The book is an oral
history of the transition from, well, swing to bop, and there is a discussion
of what heroin meant to the music. The line of thought advanced is that,
in fact, the drug did affect the development of the music in a not-entirely-
inimical way. Gitler quotes Red Rodney and Dexter...very interesting.

Some years back I studied with a fairly well-known musician who had
dabbled while on the road with Chet Baker; he backed off when he sensed
he was getting hooked, but felt that above all the drug helped him to
hear very clearly. I'm sure that at some point it must feel quite wonderful.
He said he wanted to fell what Bird felt; we all know that one, of course, and
I agree that the heroin renaissance is scary and very disappointing.
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From: srcd@athena.mit.edu (Solomon Douglas)
Subject: Re: On Drugs, Bebop and The Wire
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:00:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.070404.10836@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo) writes:
>As Bird himself said "when I'm on the needle, I
>can't even finger the horn correctly, let alone play something creative."

Not to downplay the significance of that, but wasn't that also in the same
down beat interview that he claimed that bebop was not derived from jazz?

>Why did he always tell people not to follow him into junk yet make no effort
>to clean up himself? 

Well, because he was extremely intelligent, and knew that heroin was not
the thing to do, but because he was nonetheless powerless against his own
addiction?  That does not seem like a paradox, by any means.  He knew well
that narcotics weren't helping him at all, but that knowledge didn't help
him to shake the habit.

Sol
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From: gwl@specialist.genrad.com (Glenn W. Lea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Cadence Poll
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:47:42 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: specialist.genrad.com

Here are the readers' poll results from the Jan 92 Cadence.
There are also lists for all the critics.
It's a great issue -- 16 pages longer than normal.  They review
nearly 200 releases this issue plus have room for interviews with Steve
Kuhn and Stephane Grappelli.
They say they'll keep it that long if enough people start subscribing.
Hint hint!!!

New:
M.R. Abrams	 Blu*3
Ernie Krivda	 EKJazz
Cecil Taylor	 Looking Corona
Joe Henderson	 Lush Life
Getz/Barron	 People Live
Weston		 Spirits of Ancestors
Guy/Phillips	 Arcus
W. Breuker	 Heibel
D. Byron	 Tuskegee
D. Murray	 Big Band
H. Tapscott	 Dark Tree 2
Coleman/Rollins	 Paris Concert
Evan Parker	 Process & Reality

Reissue:
Coltrane	 Major Works
Giuffre		 1961
Basie		 Complete Decca
Coltrane	 Live in Japan
Sun Ra		 Jazz in Silhouette
B. Holiday	 Complete Decca
C. Taylor	 One too Many
Sun Ra		 Supersonic Jazz
Ayler		 Love Cry
Mingus		 Let My Children

Comments?

Glenn Lea