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From: Andrew.Cookson@f1701.n291.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Bardic Newsletter
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 10 Oct 92  00:08:30

lo'
   By request, and with Kay's kind permission, I would like to let you all 
know that the Bardic College of the Kingdom of Calontir (in the SCA) has just
started a bardic newsletter, "The Baldric Purpur".

   It will cover all areas of bardic from the middle ages (stories, songs, and
verse).   There will be original material, reprints of some favorites, 
articles on performance, research, history, and so forth.
   Some future anticipated articles include excerpts from a collection of 90
audio taped accounts of Calontir history, from those that were there, and an
article on period filking.

   At only $5 a year for a 6 issue professinal quality newsletter
subscription,
this is a great deal!

   All moneys will be used to support further projects of the bardic college.

   Subscriptions can be mailed to Andrew Cookson (Ld Aindries ap Daffyd),
1632 W 22nd st. #510, Wichita, Ks. 67204.   Please make all checks out to
Andrew Cookson.

   Submissions may either sent to Andrew Cookson, at the net mail address
below, of (preferably) to Daryl Burgdorf (Ld Elwyn of Thornbury) 4619 Cass st,
Omaha, NE 68132.

   Permission is given to freely distribute this announcement to anywhere 
appropriate that you don't find it already.

   Notice:   This is not an official production of the Society for Creative 
Anachronisms, Inc. or the Kingdom or Calontir and may or may not necessarily 
reflect the views of the Corporation or the Kingdom of Calontir.  

                                        Aindries ap Daffyd

... But you shall not escape my trained iambics.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: NESFA Hymnal / Woad song 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:05:19 +0000


In article <n090ct@ofa123.fidonet.org>
           Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org writes:

>The known authors of Woad are Flanders and Swann (Michael and Thomas,
>respectively, if my memory serves...)  It has been so credited in a
>number of filk collections, include FFILE.

Definitely *not* Michael Flanders and Donald Swann...  However, possibly
not Kipling either!  I definitely saw it in a book of Kipling (to which
I no longer have access, as the person who owned it is now in Alaska!),
and this surprised me at the time...  However, other people I've asked
have said it's not Kipling, but *is* from around that time (British
Empire, scouts, Indian Mutiny etc.).

I'm still looking...

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From: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Klingons & kar'oke?
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 09 Oct 92  21:53:00

In a message to Major Matt Mason <10-07-92 00:09> Mike Liebmann wrote:

ML> Matt, I think I have to take you down to Tennessee and let some HOT
ML> FROGS on you, you bad boy!

I remember Westerfilk I....

"Mine eyes have seen the coming of the giant barded frogs...."

(No doubt "Battle Hymn of the Ranapublic" is about relatives of your "hot
frogs")  
 
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From: cpl1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Corey Liss)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: A filk, a filk, my kingdom for a filk!
Date: 8 Oct 92 04:39:36 GMT
Reply-To: cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Lunatic Fringe

something that i turned out about three months ago, back before
perot pulled out (and certainly before he came back in... :)



Oh Danny Boy, the polls, the polls are falling,
From state to state, and 'round the world wide;
The term is done, Perot my act is mauling,
And Murphy Brown's fans 'twould be better on my side.

But come ye back when my second term's in shadow,
And when the plebes know they don't want to know;
Your time will come to stand smiling for that photo,
But til then, oh Danny Boy, you've got to go.



(DISCLAIMER:  you think *i* follow the presidential race?  i'm
just trying for something that *scans*...)

-corey
and thanks to amy kahn for the inspiration
From: Joe.Bethancourt@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Happy Birthday.....
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 07 Oct 92  13:09:00

In the sense of keeping the record straight, herewith the verses I have
collected within the SCA for the "(Mongol) (SCA) Happy Birthday Song"

                            *

               THE SCA HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG
               tune: "Volga Boatmen"

        Happy Birthday! (UHH!) Happy Birthday! (UHH!)
        Death and gloom and black despair
        People dying everywhere
        Happy Birthday! (UHH!) Happy Birthday! (UHH!)

 Now you are the age you are            Fear and gloom and darkness but
 Your demise cannot be far              no one found out YOU KNOW WHAT

 May the candles on your cake           You're a period cook, its true
 burn like cities in your wake          ask the beetles in the stew

 Burn the Castle and storm the keep     Now your jail-bait days are done
 Kill the Women but SAVE THE SHEEP!     let's go out and have some fun!

 May your deeds with sheep and yaks     You must marry very soon
 equal those with sword and axe         baby's due the next full moon

 Your servants steal, your wife's untrue   Were I sitting in your shoes
 Your children plot to murder you          I'd go out and sing the blues

 They stole your gold, your sword, your house    Tho you're turning 29
 They stole your sheep, but not your spouse      age to you is like fine wine

 so you're 29 again                       Now you've lived another year
 don't tell lies to your good friend      age to you is like stale beer

 So another year has passed               Long ago your hair turned grey
 don't look now they're gaining fast!     now it's falling out, they say

 Black Death has just struck your town    It's your birthday never fear
 you yourself feel quite run-down         You'll be dead this time next year

 We brought linen, white as cloud         See the wrinkles on your face
 Now we'll sit and sew your shroud!       Like the pattern of fine lace 

 So far death you have bypassed           Indigestion's what you get
 Don't look back it's gaining fast        From the enemies you 'et

 I'm a leper, can't you see           This one lesson you must learn
 Have a birthday kiss from me         FIRST you pillage, THEN you burn

 Burn, then rape by firelight
 Add romance to your life tonight

                                  *


... But you shall not escape my trained iambics.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: WorldCon, anyone? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:40:07 +0000


In article <LGOLD.92Aug31161933@callahans.Cadence.COM>
           lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM writes:

>>Who's going to WorldCon from the filk echo?
>
>I am!  I am!  (in CONCERT, no less!)
>
>--Lynn

And good, she was, too!  As well as printing the badges for the @!
party...  Amazing who you meet at a WorldCon...

Chris

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From: Ben.Cotter@f314.n161.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: San Francisco Poem
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 06 Oct 92  18:42:00

SS>The Seasons

        I'd like to offer a San Francisco version where seasons are not
as apparent.


Sky is filled with flowing paper,
Of days discarded from windows,
Unto faceless commuters of vapor,
Who briefly clog streets then are shadows.

Another Spring of drought,
Is ignored by green store displays,
While politicians bout,
Is the water our's or L.A.'s?

Jenny Craig is on TV!
Vacations in lands with far away sounds,
And me a size triple-Z,
Time to loose those pounds!

Indian Summer in September and October,
Summer fog fades to temperatures seldom seen,
But nothing is hotter,
Then San Francisco's Holloween!

Football and carols not available in any store,
Herald from every home that Winter is here,
Commercials for A.C.T. and The Nutcracker are such a bore,
Then there's "Grandma Got Runover by a Raindeer"!

At last the pages fall,
Covering the grey stone streets,
At the clean up expense of City Hall,
And thus the cycle again completes.
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From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Jewish Music
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 07 Oct 92  00:11:44

If you want to find books with Jewish songs, there are a couple sources I can 
recommend (having had first-hand experience myself):
 
Or-Tav Publications, #80 Rothschild Blvd., Tel Aviv, Israel.  The proprietor's 
name is Bruno Reinhardt (at least it was back in 1986 when I was dealing with 
him).  He understands English, and is a nice gentleman (I met him in 1979).
 
Tara Publications in (I think) Levittown, NY.  While I don't like the accuracy 
of his chording, he (Velvel Pasternak) comes out with a lot of stuff. 

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From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Prune juice - a warrior's drink
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 10 Oct 92  21:49:41

That still doesn't negate the fact I need a Klingon drinking song, unless
someone has one out there about prune juice.
 
How about kosher heart of targ with humus and techina? 

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From: Glendon.Todd@f68.n128.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: "Waltzing Matilda" Filks
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 09 Oct 92  09:39:00

MC-->How about Rennie Levine's SICK "Robbing The Graveyard"?

  ROTFLMAOASTC!

                                             Glen
 * OLX 2.2 * The dog ate my .REP packet.
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From: Bruce.Tomlin@f555.n387.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Bardic Wish List
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:24:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992


 > One thing about food: avoid milk and milk products for the filk
 > room. It's got nothing to do with kosher... but it does have to
 > do with imparing singing. Milk products tend to coat the throat
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > and make singing more difficult.

Ah, these =are= filkers we're talking about here, right?  :)

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From: Kihe.Blackeagle@p4003.f6224.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Greetings!
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 10 Oct 92  15:21:38

 JH>          We specialise in Avation, Technology, and Philosophy.

I presume that FILK sneaks in as both Technology AND Philosophy, then?

<f/x: innocent look!>

Pax ... Kihe

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From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: BYU SF symposium 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:09:56 +0000


In article <n0a31t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Fen.Eatough@f12.n312.z1.fidonet.org writes:

> > In a message of <Sep 05 07:36>, Mike Liebmann (1:102/524) writes:
>
> >Who knows?  If I'm lucky enough, maybe I can convert some LDS to filkers!
>
>             Well, heck, some of us already are...
>
>                                 Podkayne

Are what?  Filkers, LDS, LSD?

Yes, there are Mormon (or LDS) filkers.  Also, some non-religious
filkers are embarassed by certain filksongs.  To me, it is only
courteous to avoid singing songs that may give offence in a given
company, and if a certain group says "This (specific class of songs)
will offend us" then I would thank them for warning me in advance, *not*
accuse them of censorship as some people have been doing!

Personally, I would rather know in advance so that I could avoid doing
something that would embarass them...

>.... We're not Evil; we're the Dark Side of Good

Surely *that's* not supposed to apply to Mormons?

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From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Songs with 6^6^6 Verses (was Re: Real Old Time Religion
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 10 Oct 92  21:39:24

Drunken Klingon?  Now THAT was totally tasteless and almost tacky. 

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From: Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: ConChord Guest report (3 & last)
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 15 Oct 92  11:53:41

After that, I decided to call it a Con ("It's a Con") and said my good-byes,
and found out that I'm not all that safe from "The Ravages of Leslie" (Coming
soon to a theater near you).  Wish I had know sooner, I might not have slept
on the floor!
 
 
                               ^+^
 -HAWK
(Drat--shoulda checked the line lengths...)
Anyway, Hawk (aka Bryce Maryott) was the tall, good-looking guy who
did the shortest set in the TT&T Revue. 
Thought this'd be of interest from a new perspective.
Thanks! -- Mary


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From: Eric.Gerds@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Con-Chord
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 07 Oct 92  12:22:29

Well, 
Con-Chord was this past weekend and it was great. There were the normal hotel 
problems, but they didn't spoil the convention. 
.
I just want to thank the Con-Com for doing a great job. Three cheers for Nick, 
Rick, and Deb.
.
Any other comments.


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From: Jonathan.Hutchins@f76.n280.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Greetings!
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 09 Oct 92  17:32:03

                Just a note to say hello to everybody,
         and let you all know that this echo is now available on

                             The Wolf's Den

             A free-access Computer Bulletin Board system,
                                   in
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         We specialise in Avation, Technology, and Philosophy.



                                                Jonathan.

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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Hello
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 09 Oct 92  10:50:02

On <Oct 04 17:15>, hjfeld@acs.bu.edu (harold feld) wrote to All:

 hf>One thing, if anything of mine is reprinted in a song book, I'd 
 hf>like a
 hf>free copy.  Last year, the people at Con-Chord used some of my 
 hf>stuff
 hf>(apparently taped at Chicon) in the filk book without asking 
 hf>permission
 hf>first.  Please don't do this again.

I think you have your conventions confused - I just looked through my copy of 
last year's ConChord book and there was nothing in there of yours unless
someone else falsely claimed credit for one of your songs which seems a mite
unlikely considering who was in there.  Contributors listed were (in no
particular order) Chris Weber, Mark Bernstein, Joey Shoji, Jane Mailander,
Rilla Heslin, Karen Rogers, Joe & C. McCray Bethancourt, Katherine A. Ring,
Bob Kanefsky, Karen Trimble, Nick Smith, Catherine Clark, Barney Evans,
Charlie Kellner, me, and Doris Robin.

Please be more careful about this - I know that Eric did his best to insure
that nothing went into that book that wasn't authorized (and as one of the
folks who helped him collect the songs I know everything _I_ turned in was
kosher, as it were. :->)

 hf>On a completely different note, I'm in charge of filking aqt 
 hf>Arisia.
 hf>(Sorta, I front for Spence. It's a long story.)
 hf>In any event, I am interested in what people would like to see as
 hf>part of filk programming.  Pannels? (What type?)
 hf>Workshops?  A brainstorming session?  Please send on suggestions.

I won't be there, I'm afraid, but before the Vancouver Westercon I made
similar requests of folks (which the concom ignored completely, but that's
another story) and Chris Weber posted the following on the DAG board, which I 
doubt he'd object to having repeated here:

--begin quote--

At a convention it's nice to have at least two rooms for filking... one for
some form of bardic and one for a more, "let the heavy hitters have it at"
kind of sing.
  
The rooms should, of course, be kept stocked with water and glasses and be
located away from rock bands and movie sound tracks!
  
A concert one evening during a con is usually a nice thing.
  
Appropriate signage and information in the con daily newsrag to keep people
posted on when and where is also helpful.

--end quote--

If I were going, I think I might appreciate a workshop on non-stringed
instruments; there are usually a number of things for the guitar and related
instruments, and some of us do use other things...

 hf>Jamie Dawson was the captain of the Christian and its crew
 hf>And he really hates the name because he is a pious Jew
 hf>Now everyone in space thinks Jamie Dawson is a goy
 hf>Oy! such a fate for a nice young Jewish boy

OOK!  I LIKE it!  Welcome to the echo - I think you're going to be quite an
asset.  And I'll be sure to add your name to the posting info too.

          Ye Moderator/Designated Topic Cop, Kay Shapero 

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From: Kettlingurr@f708.n362.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: A tongue twister
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:25:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992

>>I think I saw this in Dave Aronson's message: 

 DA> Here's one I bet most of you haven't tried - FOREIGN tonguetwisters!

 DA> Ton the' t'a-t'il ote' ton toux?
 DA> (Did your tea cure your cough?)

This took me three times to get it right......

 DA> Un chasseur sachant chasser chasse sans son chien.
 DA> (A hunter who knows how to hunt hunts without his dog)

This one was a bit harder, but I can say it slow......

 DA> Dinon dina, dit on, du dos dodu d'un dodu dindon.
 DA> (Dinon dined, said he, on the fat back of a fat turkey.)

*This* one was the easiest (two tries!)......

 DA> Si six scies scient six saucissions,
 DA> six cent six scies scieront six cent six saucissions.
 DA> (If 6 saws saw 6 sausages, 606 saws will saw 606 sausages.)

FORGET IT!  I'm sitting here laughing 'til I cried trying to get *this*
one out!  LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

 DA> It's even harder to say when you don't understand the words....

C'est vrai......
(that's true....)  ...and I'm glad I studied French!  At least, I know *how*
to say it!  :>

Now..... can anyone make a FILK out of this mess?  :>



... Reality is for people who can't cope with science fiction.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: WorldCon, anyone? 
Organization: The Burn the Candle at Both Ends Club
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:48:56 GMT

In article <718562407snx@keris.demon.co.uk> chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton) writes:
>
>In article <LGOLD.92Aug31161933@callahans.Cadence.COM>
>           lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM writes:
>
>>>Who's going to WorldCon from the filk echo?
>>
>>I am!  I am!  (in CONCERT, no less!)
>
>And good, she was, too!  As well as printing the badges for the @!
>party...  Amazing who you meet at a WorldCon...

Awww.... :-)  Thanks, Chris!  (Btw, it was great meeting you too!)

NOW...who's going to OVFF?

Seeing as I don't have a job now anyway (I got laid off two weeks
ago), and seeing as I have to be "back east" for my brother's wedding
the following weekend, and seeing as my mother's paying for me (and
Fuzzball the Wonder Dog) to fly out for the wedding, I can't justify
NOT going. :-)

--Lynn
From: Pete.Granzeau@f236.n271.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Mongol Wedding Song
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:48:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992

MC>                     MONGOL WEDDING SONG

MC>            MUSIC: Traditional (Volga Boatmen)
MC>            LYRICS: J. CREASEY
MC>            EDITED: J. MAILANDER

MC>CHORUS:              Happy wedding--UUGH!
MC>                     Happy wedding--UUGH!

MC>                  See the bride, all dressed to kill
MC>                  Parents pass out at the bill!   (CHO)

... most omitted for space ...

MC>(C) 1989 John Creasey

Somehow, these verses (although amusing!) don't match the whole melody
that I remember learning, 45 or so years ago, and playing on the piano.

First, that chorus was a couple of lines longer, with a different third
line.

Furthermore, the verses I remember were also a couple of lines longer,
also with a different third line (the words, as I remember, were
something like "Ai-dada Ai-da, Ai-dada Ai-da", and then another pass at
the last two lines of the chorus.


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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Bash The Balrog...
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 04 Oct 92  23:31:05

On <Oct 03 11:13>, Dan Long (1:124/4229) wrote to Kay Shapero:

 DL>things, but I was reading the filk echo on Steppes and found a 
 DL>message about "you bash the ballrog.  I would be gretaly 
 DL>interested in the lyrics, as well as the magazine "filker Up 
 DL>Front".  Any information would be nice.

The name of the magazine is "Filker Up" and it can be ordered from Lee Gold;
I'll add her name and address to the list of filksources and repost in a bit; 
I've just gotten back from ConChord and I'm about half asleep.

 DL>        One of the reasons I'm asking is our Runequest group 
 DL>ripped off the music for "Ballrog" for a parody song about my 
 DL>character, Pipkin Dinosaur slayer.  You see, Pipkin is size 3, 
 DL>strength 6, and has a damage modifier of -minus 1d4.  Several 
 DL>luck critical shots with a sling have gotten Pipkin a reputaion, 
 DL>but he still avoids melee combat as much as possible.

The music is "Waltzing Matilda", btw.  

 

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