HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio)
Subject: Re:wanted: Petrologists, volcanologists, etc.
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:03:54 GMT

|In article 5706, maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio):
|  < stuff deleted >
   |In article 5731, <U25720@uicvm.uic.edu> Caloy Arcilla writes:         
   |1. Kimberlites, the host rocks of diamonds, are unfortunately not found
   |                                                              1^^^^^^^^^
   |in the Philippines. They are deposited in a rapid fashion by intrusion
   |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   |1. Kimberlites, ...                                                   
   |                    They are deposited in a rapid fashion by intrusion
   |                                                             2^^^^^^^^^
   |(from below) with origins deeper than the crust (>35 km.).
   |                  3^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                  
   |
   |                                                                      
   |2. kimberlites and volcanic eruptions like those of Pinatubo are not
   |                                      4^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   |related,...                                                           
 
I am doing this for general information and thanks for your
patient consideration.

1.  So as a geologist, there are no kimberlites underneath the Philippines?
2.  Intrusion ONLY? and never volcanic eruption?  Looking up 'intrusion':
    in geology, it is the forcing of a molten rock into an early formatiom;
    (American Heritage desk dictionary)
3.  Teh lava from Pinatubo did not come deeper than the crust?
4.  ...but volcanic eruptions other than those like Pinatubo can effect 
    kimberlites to get spewed out?

Would the facts and opinions in petrology, <gemology>, mineralogy differ 
from those of volcanology and geology? 
The way I comprehend Caloy's post is it is coming from volcanologist's
(or/ not geologist's) point of view.
Would this make a difference from the other fields' facts?
 
                              

General layering of the earth (correct me if I am wrong):

=================== surface
crust
------------------- @>35 km below surface
/////kimberlite///                         <---- Is this where kimberlites are?
------------------- @ >> 35 km below surf.
core                                       <---- Is this where lava came from?
(ssssooooo hhhhooot)




Thanks for any comment.
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Strange last name for a Filipino
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:13:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep2.231305.17437
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Uhh, I thought the P.I. barred the ethnic Chinese minority from citizenship?
has this changed. I know there are Spanish lineage in a lot of families there,
and even more with Chinese intermixtures; maybe the "Lims" were one of these.
From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Little League
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:38:02 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Aug28.002034.63649@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
lagman@CS.ColoState.EDU (annette) wrote:
< 	They face the winner of the US Division for the World Title
< 	on Saturday, and the game will be televised, sorry I forgot
< 	to note the time and whether it would be on ABC or ESPN.

I just checked the TV listings here and ABC will carry the finals live. The
Little League World Series will start at 4 pm EDT. ABC starts the show at
3:30 pm with a half hour road to the World Series which I assume will show
highlights of past games of the series.

< 	I watched part of the game and it was wonderful.  The Pinoys
< 	were underdogs in this game, having lost to the same team
< 	the night before 8-1, and everyone thought that the Latin
< 	Americans were invincible.  The Filipino pitcher, Placios,
< 	had a perfect game going into the last inning.  That's no
< 	hits, no base on balls, no batters reaching first, nothing.
< 	I think they said there was only one ball hit into the outfield,
< 	and there were a lot of strikeouts.  This guy was really
< 	cool, and I could see where the comment about the Filipino
< 	pitchers playing mind games came from.  And to top it all,
< 	in the last inning, he hit a homerun!! He eventually lost the
< 	perfect game and the shutout, but great defense preserved the
< 	win for the Philippines.

Wish I could have seen it.

< 	The other nice thing about the game was seeing the Filipinos
< 	in the stands supporting the team, waving flags and cheering.
< 	I wish I could have been there.

Go Zamboanga!!!! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!!!!!!!

>         annette


Standard Disclaimer:
  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
cups of coffee, whichever comes first.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Imelda Delays Return of Ferdinand's Body
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:40:02 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Former First Lady Imelda Marcos has put
off the scheduled return of ousted dictator Ferdinand Marcos' remains
from Hawaii for about a month.
	``It's definitely off,'' said Sol Vanzi, an aide to former first lady
Imelda Marcos, said of earlier plans to return Marcos' remains on Sept.
1.
	A civilian-backed military rebellion drove Ferdinand Marcos from 20
years of power in 1986, forcing him and his wife to flee to Hawaii.
	But after Ferdinand Marcos died in 1989, his wife returned, and has
attempted to negotiate burial of the late dictator's remains.
	However, the government has banned internment of the body in Manila,
for fear that it would serve as a rallying point for Marcos supporters.
	Mrs. Marcos ran unsuccessfully for president earlier this year, and
is also fighting civil and criminal charges stemming from allegations
she and her husband stole billions from the treasury during their reign.

	Vanzi said the deposed ruler's corpse, temporarily interred in a
refrigerated crypt in Honolulu, would now be flown to the Philippines
late next month.
	He said Mrs. Marcos declined to say why the arrival had been
postponed, but the move followed statements from Mrs. Marcos that she
could not afford the $180,000 needed to charter a plane to carry the
body. The remark brought derision from critics, who note Mrs. Marcos
drives around Manila in a chaffeured luxury car.
	Philippine Local Governments Secretary Rafael Alunan this week
offered an air force C-130 cargo plane to carry the body, but President
Fidel Ramos overruled the plan.
	Mrs. Marcos also rejected the offer, saying she did not want the
remains of her husband treated as cargo.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: More On Maporma
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:51:07 GMT


      My penny's worth of opinions to the 'maporma' thread:

      Maybe the bottom line is really dressing up or down at
 the right place and the right time.   I  admire  those  who
 look  proper  when the occasion calls for one.  By the same
 token, I don't comment on anyone who may have unconsciously
 dressed up in a casual situation. Choice is a privilege?

      Perhaps, it is also about self-esteem. Being 'maporma'
 gives someone people confidence within.  That saying, 'look
 good, feel good', rings a bell, don't you think?

      The subject is something to keep on talking about.

                                    Thanks,

                                    -TEG
From: szanton@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Archive site?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 00:01:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

David Szanton

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Is it "Pilipino"? or "Filipino"???
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:36:22 GMT


In a previous article, c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA) says:

>Also, what Filipino words have F and Z?

Mostly, these are just used for people's names (unless you are willing
to include such bastardizations as 'badaf').

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Romulo Kintanar Released
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:35:51 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The captured chief of the communist rebel
army was freed from a military prison Thursday, the second ranking
insurgent to be released in two days amid progress in the government's
peace efforts.
	Romulo Kintanar, former commander of the 13,000-member New People's
Army, raised a clenched fist and hugged his wife and relatives as he
walked out of his maximum security cell at the suburban Fort Bonifacio
army headquarters.
	His release came two days after Satur Ocampo, alleged chairman of the
National Democratic Front, the outlawed Communist Party's political
wing, was freed.
	Both rebels were among five prominent communist leaders ordered
released by President Fidel Ramos in a bold initiative to forge peace
with the guerrillas, who have fought the Manila government for the past
23 years.
	Kintanar, whom military sources described as ``ruthless'' when he
headed the guerrilla army, said he was released after he posted $8,000
bail and not as a result of Ramos' order.
	``My freedom is the result of a long struggle in the courts where we
fought for our right to bail to temporarily go free,'' he told
reporters.
	State prosecutors have opposed the granting of bail to Kintanar but
dropped their objection after Ramos ordered his freedom. Kintanar, 45,
who is being tried for murder and illegal arms possession charges,
promised to attend court hearings.
	He praised Ramos' peace efforts, saying the retired four-star general
who won in the May 11 elections has shown sincerity in finding a
peaceful settlement to the armed conflict rather than a military
victory.
	But he added the efforts should focus more on tackling the root
causes nation's grinding poverty, which has fueled the insurgency, than
on granting amnesty to guerrillas.
	``The timing is good. Let us not waste this opportunity,'' he said.
	Government and rebel negotiators met in the Netherlands Monday and
Tuesday for exploratory talks and agreed to meet later for formal
negotiations to end one of the world's most active communist rebellions.
	Analysts said the decision to hold formal talks was a step forward in
the peace process.
	Manila has dropped its demand that the rebels lay down their arms and
renounce violence before formal talks can begin.
	``I think this is a great victory when the government changed its
stance by agreeing that the NPA need not lay down its arms first or
renounce violence,'' he said.
	Kintanar escaped from a police prison in November in 1988. He was
recaptured in August 1991 at a Manila hospital while visiting a plastic
surgeon to change his identity.
	The son of an attorney, Kintanar studied civil engineering in the
central Philippines before he joined the rebels.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: bongalon@tcad05.intel.com (Ben Bongalon)
Subject: Bakit maporma ang mga Pilipino?
Reply-To: bongalon@tcad05.intel.com (Ben Bongalon)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:05:54 GMT


A friend of mine who currently has no net access is asking:

"Bakit maporma ang mga Pilipino?"
(Why are Filipinos so ostentatious?)


some examples:

- fixed up cars
- kahit sa school lang pupunta, nakabihis pang-party.
- etc..

my initial thoughts:
1. it's in our culture
2. it's a biased observation because only the flashy Pinoys get
   noticed while the plain Pinoys don't get noticed and are
   consequently not included in the sample.
3. it's a biased observation because other cultures are just as
   guilty but the way they express their ostentatiousness is
   not so obvious from the observer.
4. colonial mentality  :-)

thanks in advance for the inputs.
ben
From: c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Is it "Pilipino"? or "Filipino"???
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:46:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

If new letters were added to allow proper nouns like Cubao, then why
don't we have an n~ (n with the tilda on top of it) as in Paran~aque.
Also, some names have this nie (sp?).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: sobejana@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Regina Sobejana)
Subject: Re: Little League Team
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:50:17 GMT
Organization: Bill & Dave's Garage

francis@mpl.ucsd.edu (Francis C Felizardo) writes:
: 
: In article <1311@bridge2.NSD.3Com.COM>, dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia) 
: writes:|> 
: |>      Anyways, as far as I remember (others please jump in), in terms
: |>      of popularity in sport, here is the breakdown:
: |> 
: |>              1. Basketball
: |>              2. Golf
: |>              3. Softball
: |>              4. Baseball
: |>              5. Boxing
: |>              6. Soccer
: |> 
: |>      However, I think the most popular spectator sport is:
: |> 
: |>              Cockfighting
: 
: Hmmm.... I would think volleyball would be pretty high on that list. Back in 

I would too.  Volleyball is one of the famous university sports in high school.
Also, "ping-pong" or table tennis and swimming.   Gymnastics is another one,
but I would put that in the bottom list.

: high school volleyball was so popular with girls everyone in our barkada 
: decided to add that to the list of games we played. *grin*
: 
: Some other honorable mentions you may have forgotten:
: 
: cycling - the Tour of Luzon/Tour of the Philippines/Marlboro Tour 
:           always gets good coverage.
: 
: billiards - is this a sport? My brothers and I always have a hard time 
:           getting a table at the neighborhood pool hall.
: 
: bowling - many of the offices I know have a yearly bowling 
:           tournament, usually duckpin.
: 
: track and field - the crown jewels of the Gintong Alay program. Made 
:           popular by the exploits and success of track star Lydia de 
:           Vega et al in the early 80s.
: 
--Ginnie
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From: andym@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Andy Means)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:30:41 GMT
Subject: THANKS TO ALL "Filipino? / Pilipino?"
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino

Thanks to all who responded to my query.  I have been 
enlighten I'm sure the others too.  My conclusion then
is that both words (Filipino or Pilipino) can be use
interchangeably and the meaning comes out the same.

-----------------------------------------------------
Andy R. Means (andym@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM)

"Aging is like mind over matter. If you don't mind
 it doesn't matter." -George Burns
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From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Phil Independent Church Bishop Killed in Explosion
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:24:14 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- A bomb exploded in a jeep in the northern
 Philippines, killing a bishop of the homegrown Philippine Independent
Church and injuring three other people, police and church officials said
Monday.
	A police report identified the victim as Bishop Juanito Ferrer, 52,
who was killed in the incident Saturday in Talugtog, Nueva Ecija
province, 60 miles north of the capital.
	Bishop Admirador Federis, secretary-general of the Philippine
Independent Church, said two priests and a deacon were injured in the
explosion.
	He said the bishop and seven other people had come from a meeting and
were aboard a jeep en route to the provincial capital when the
explosive, which was believed placed inside one of the bags a deacon was
carrying, blew up.
	He said Ferrer had received several death threats, but declined to
say from whom.
	The church, claiming 3 million members nationwide, was founded in
1902 by a Filipino priest who broke away from the Roman Catholic church
in Asia's only Christian nation.
	Its members are active in human rights issues and have expressed
opposition to U.S. military bases in the country and the operation of a
nuclear power plant.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: woonsun@blitzen.uucp (25853-belen)
Subject: Re: More LLWS News!!!
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:56:47 GMT
Summary: Sultans of Swing


Hello SCFers-


I don't recall seeing all the names of our new "heroes" in the local papers
and here in SCF. So in honor of these sluggers, here's the Philippine team 
roster as I saw and heard it on the ABC broadcast. I couldn't understand 
the way Brent Musberger  pronounced many of the Filipino names. Since 
not all names were shown on tv, it's likely I spelled some of them wrong. 
Masyado kasing islang si Brent, eh. ;-) If you have the correct names of 
these little sultans of swing, please post. 

..............................................................................
			Zamboanga City, Philippines
		1992 Little League World Series Champions

	PLAYERS		#12 - Jerwin Sagun
			#19 - Ian Tolentino
			#13 - Roberto Placious
			 #6 - Michael Gonzales
			#20 - Allan Bitun
			#10 - Marlon Pantaleon
			#14 - Jemar Alfaro
			 #4 - Ricardo Marcos
			#11 - Ignacio Ramacho
			 #7 - Expedito Alvarez 
			 #9 - Jonathan Fridge (sp?)
			 #8 - Emil Lacuna
			#15 - Jeffrey Bartolome
			#22 - Michael Exconde

	MANAGER 	Rodolfo Lugay, Sr.
	COACH 		Reynaldo Toledo
..............................................................................


These courageous kids brought great joy and pride to many Filipinos. We want 
to see our youngsters represented again in future international games. However,
due to lack of equipment back home,  it is not likely that we will see another
Philippine team fielding the diamond in Willamsport. So, I ask all you SCFers 
to unite! Get your friends and relatives involved, too! If you have extra 
bats, old gloves, helmets, etc. that you no longer use, donate them to your
local Filipino organizations. Collectively, we can equip a few public schools
in the Philippines to start a baseball program. If there's no Filipino club
in your area, SCF is probably a good place to start one. Any suggestions?

Come on folks! Let's send another winner in 1993!

-Joel
woonsun@cc.bellcore.com


-------------------
Opinions expressed here are mine.
From: dguerrer@oak.cel.scg.hac.com (Daniel Guerrero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: LLWS
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:31:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Colorado Engineering Labs

Congrats to the champions from the Phil.  I have just recently seen
a videotape of the game and I was very impressed by their play.  However,
I was very disappointed that the local station here did not show the 
last inning.  A thought occured to me.  Since the USA team was losing,
and losing badly :-), the stations probably had no incentive to air
the game to its conclusion.  After all, the USA team was "playing a bunch of
no-names from a small country" (the TV station's rationale, NOT MINE!!!)
However, if the situation had been reversed, and the 
USA team was winning, I wonder if the game would have been aired in
its entirety.

Also, anyone know from previous LLWS games if these games are usually
aired completely even when the USA team was losing.  
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From: pm3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paolo Vergara Malabuyo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: "Pilipino" vs. "Filipino
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:49:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keavMBe00awN4HdF1_
Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

"Filipino" I believe is the english version while "Pilipino" is the
Tagalog version.  I think it changes to be consistent with the
respective ways the name of the country is spelled/sounded out. 
Philippines starts with an "f" sound while Pilipinas has a "p" sound.  

Am I right guys?  If not, correct me please.

Paolo
(that's with a "p" sound)
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Little League (Pinoys WIN)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:13:02 GMT
Organization: 3Com Corporation


  CONGRATULATIONS to the Zamboanga team representing not only the
  Philippines but the Far East. In fact, they represented the International
  region. 

  I was so proud of the boys and in case they didn't win, they still deserve
  our respect and admiration. The team was an underdog most if not all of the
  time and still they prevailed.

  I agree with one of the netters (Francis, yata) that the Pinays in the
  crowd were cute. The cheering was also good, I only understood what the
  Pinoy crowd was saying in the 4th inning. They were cheering "Isa pa, isa 
  pa, isa pa..." after 2 outs, all the while I was trying my best to 
  decipher and all I could say was, "Bakit nila tinatawag si Shin Dong Pa?"
  All you netters na 30+ yrs old, huwag ninyong sabihin na hindi ninyo
  kilala si Shin Dong Pa? (He was the basketball ace of South Korea dduring
  the ABC games).

  Did you notice that the Filipino team showed little emotion even after
  winning? They did not pile on top of one another, or hug and scream, etc..
  Maybe they were overwhelmed by it all or simply reserved at nahihiyaa to
  show such a display. What do you think?

  Once again, CONGRATS. Things are hopefully getting better in our sports
  program. We have 2 bronze medal in Taekwondo (spectator sport) and 1 bronze
  medal in Boxing at the Olympics, and now the Little League championship.

  These boys will be celebrities and will be movie stars. :-) Mother Lily
  will surely love this storyline, "against all odds, poverty stricken boys
  rally and unite the country at least for a while and show the adults that
  with hardwork and dedication, there is nothing impossible in this world."
  Play Ball!!!!!


  /Danny