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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:57:15 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      More intern'l radio on ASTRA

Radio Swiss International (RSI) is now on ASTRA 1A, transponder 9,
audio subcarrier 7.20 MHz from Zurich uplink. This frequency is
kind of unsual, because ASTRA usually has the wide audio channel
6.50 MHz in mono for the TV audio as well as 7.02+7.20 for the
narrow Wegener/Panda stereo version. There are some receivers on the
market, which cannot receive the 6.50, so ASTRA usually askes
program providers to feed their audio (even if it is only mono)
also on the 7.02/7.20 pair. TELECLUB on transponder 9 only uses the
7.02 aside the 6.50 for TV audio, and puts RSI on the "right" channel
at 7.20.

Radio Netherlands will use a an audio channel on PanAmSat 45 degrees
west (315 east) to bring its broadcasts to Surinam as of April 15th,
I just read.

Hungary is grabbing for the satellite age obviously. They are testing
on Eutelsat II-F3, 11.658 vertical with testcards, cultural and
touristic movies. The person at the program control seems to have his
home computer with VGA to work...last night I saw him playing
computer games over this transponder. The video is PAL encoded,
although Hungary is on MESECAM for terrestrial broadcasts. The
test transmissions have a logo MOVI inserted at times.

Wolfgang

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From: philip@cetia.fr (Philip Peake)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Canal + in Fixed Key?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:03:08 GMT
Organization: CETIA, France

In article <1992Apr8.111209.27201@cs.tu-berlin.de> harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann) writes:
>With my almost brandnew D2-MAC receiver I noticed something very
>strange the last few days (since Friday): Although the picture was
>garbled (which could be seen for a fraction of a sepond while tuning
>to this channel) my receiver would descramble the picture and sound
>continuously over the last few days! I certainly didn't take out a
>subscription to Canal +, even if I wanted to I couldn't (here in
>Germany) and my receiver doesn't even have a card-reader (which seems
>to be the only thing mising for full eurocrypt capability).

Every once in a while, Canal+ have problems with eurocrypt, and
turn off the encryption until the problem is fixed.

The last time, i believe that there was a problem when switching
from coded to uncoded and back to coded materiel.
The authorizations kept getting lost, and it was taking forever
for the encrypted stuff to be visible again.

Also, the encryprion cnetre relays its data via the public X.25
system (TRANSPAC), and this had been known not to work
too well from time to time too - if there was a problem with the TRANSPAC
link, they would have switched the encoding off.

>Has anyone else noticed this, or did this only happen to me? When I
>tried this morning the program remained coded. I for one won't miss
>it...

Pity the poor people who think that it is the best thing since sliced bread ...
it shows you the quality of French programming.

When Canal+ move to the new TELECOM satellite, they have seriously
upset France Telecom (and others) by saying that they don't consider
D2-MAC to be sufficently developed, and causes too many problems,
so they will be transmitting in SECAM (encrypted, but SECAM).

>In reference to Jurgen Bartels posting that the channels other than
>Antenne 2 on Telecom 1C have Antiope teletext, I would seriously
>dispute that. Assuming that even Antiope is some sort of data in some
>blanking interval, there is absolutely nothing to be seen on any
>channel except on Canal +. This seems to be deocder support though...

I beieve that Antiope is only transmitted on terrestrial transmitters, and
that if there is anythink on the TELECOM signals, it
is TELETEXT.

Antiope transmissions are to cease entirely soon - they have realised that
everyone else uses TELETEXT, and that they are not going to sell Antiope
to anyone ...

Philip
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From: larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr)
Subject: Need advice
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 13:17:00 GMT


A while back, Jerry Budd (budd@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov), wrote about his system:
 
 
> Here's what I paid:
>
> Superior 10' mesh dish w/24" mount      $299
> Gardiner 30 deg C-band LNB               $99
> Gardiner 1.0 Ku-band LNB                $109
> Chaparral Co-Rotor II+                  $109
> VonWeise 24" HD Actuator                 $99
> Drake 1524 Receiver w/VCII+ & VideoPal $1169
> --------------------------------------------
> Total                                  $1884
 
 
I talked to my local dealer about this system. After calling around, he
said that he could get it for me for around $2000. Then he proceeded to
criticize every piece of equipment on the list. To make a long story
short he proposed the following system:
 
Channel Master dish
Drake 27 degree LNB
Chapparel polarotar
24" heavy duty ball drive
Echo (Star?) 710 receiver (with PAL?)
 
This would cost me around $2100.
 
Which system is better? Is his price too high? I've seen people here on
the net praise the Drake 1524 which makes me a little suspicious.
 
I've already applied for a building permit using the Channel Master dish.
How good is it?
 
Any advice would be appreciated.
--

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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: Re: British Election Coverage
Organization: eng
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:33:32 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.2.702831284.skingsle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Stuart A Kingsley <skingsle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

>This morning's BBC Breakfast Time showed the Beeb's high-tech Election
>Results studio - it looks like something out of a science fiction movie!
>Do not be surprized if you get the impression that the BBC has been turned
>into some sort of "Mission Control".

The BBC had a very impressive coverage, sometimes it reminded me of
commercial TV with all the graphics and other gimmicks.

BBC-WSTV was in the clear. On SSVC (BFBS-TV) there was a relay of BBC-1
(scrambled) but its CeeFax was the one of BBC-1. It was totally
devoted to the election. The normal pages were only available on BBC-2
or BBC-WSTV. Every constiuency was listed on CeeFax. And they were
extremly fast in entering the data. It only took them 1 minute 
to enter it after the results announcements.

Many transponders where active from all locations of the UK.


Jurgen



Jurgen Bartels   Taunusstein near Wiesbaden  Germany


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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:04:11 EDT
From:         Flash Hoser <lopez!flash@SHARKEY.CC.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Janeil Stereo Processor
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

>Audio below 5.00?  Huh?  My Sierra ][ only goes down to 5.00 as far as I know,
>so how can I get these lower frequencies?  I have noted that on some occasions
>I can get a video signal, but an audio sweep from 5.00 to the top of the Sierra
>band produces nothing.  Maybe these are similar situations to the one you
>discussed.  Are there also channels with audio ABOVE the top of the bandwidth?

There are a number of ways to get the FM squared audio below 5 mhz.  The ICOM
R-100 will tune here, you can modify some stereo processors to add this
range, or you can build or purchase an upconvertor (Doug Dennert of SKYVISION
makes one I believe).

BUT here is a trick that REALLY works.

Take a TV band radio such as used for SCPC reception in previous discussions.
Connect this receiver to (of all places) the RF MODULATOR OUTPUT of your sat
receiver (tuned to channel 3).

Now tune the tv band radio just below channel 3.

You will hear the FM SQUARED audio!

Places to find it:  SPACENET 3, channels 13 and 17.  Programming includes
various radio music formats, including KOOK GOLD, and a LOT of religious
programming.

--
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:26:14 -0400
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw90!gingell@MCNC.ORG>
Subject:      LVTN's first week on the air.

Gary Bourgois flash@lopez writes:

>>LVTN is getting even cheaper than the already appear to be. The
>>800number is now gone.. I have yet to see anything on this channel aside
>>from a LTVN logo.

>I noticed this and mentioned it on my talk show on LTR.  All the clues used
>to measure the relative health of a channel indicate that LVTN is not doing
>well AT ALL.  After the first day, I have not seen a single show except for a
>rerun of their promo tape and that silent ID slate.

>And they must be sending about a half watt of power at the uplink, what a
>grungy picture now.

As I was off work last week, I had the opportunity to check evry day to
see what was on. They were on 6 hours a day 9AM-3PM EST as promised with
a bunch of 3-4 year old shows, June Caine Miller, Mechanics of Medicine,
Making Strides, plus I saw several full length movies.  On random times
I checked on Saturday & Sunday they were also running stuff.

Quality is variable and seems to be limited by their tapes and playback
equipment. At least one show I saw was very sharp - the rest were like
watching local TV in a seedy motel off rabbit ears.  Signal strength
is adequate here but sometimes there were sparklies.

I did notice that they seem to cut the uplink carrier momentarily as
they switch between programs. My IRD flashes the satellite and channel
number every time they do that.  No other station I have seen does that
and I would have thought it would play hell with the other channel
charing that same 72 MHz wide transponder.  In fact I have noticed
that services that use time shared transponders seem to wind the power
up and down smoothly - they don't just bang it on and off.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
UUCP:       ...!mcnc!aurgate!aurfs1!gingell
Internet:   gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org
From: jonc@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Mike Corcoran)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Which IRD? Help me decide.
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:07:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: donner.1992Apr7.020742.14594
Reply-To: jonc@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Mike Corcoran)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo

In article <01GIJ9B8HNM8A5U6E6@WCUVAX3.WCU.EDU> CRISP@WCUVAX3.WCU.EDU writes:
>Hello all from CULLOWHEE, USA!
>
>I'd like to put in my plug for DRAKE equipment.  As a ham, I can tell you

Hi,

I've got a friend who got Drake 1524 a couple of months ago and
he loves it. I'll be getting a Zenith 7000XL this weekend. Can hardly
wait. 

The Zenith is pretty much the same unit as the Drake I understand. Both
made in the same factory(Drake), by the way, and in the USA. How about 
that. GREAT!

Mike

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:03:56 PDT
From:         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      What is f/d?
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU
              1 Apr 1992 13:44:27 GMT <9204020946.AA15393@Sun.COM>

This bounced sthe first time around since my mailer was sick ...

> Next, does anyone have any info on Satellite Market USA such as "I
> received everything as promised" or "I have had nothing but problems
> with them"?  I have a 12 foot mesh dish with a 55 degree C band
> LNB
Stay away from them, and tell them I told you so!

I ordered a Ku upgrade from them that they promised to ship in a
week. I'd call them every week and they told me that they had
already shipped it the previous week. This ridiculous story went
on for about 6-8 weeks (honest!), and every time I called they
claimed that they had just shipped all the orders and that they
had received calls from all their customers saying that they had
received them !

Finally, I told them I was writing to the AG's office in NJ (where
they are based) as well as CA and also refusing to authorize the
Credit Card charge (they had the gall to charge my card). At that
point they said they'd check and call back. I found it at my door
step a couple of days later. I am still undecided about whether to
keep it or send it back, but, as far as *I* am concerned, the
hasssle is certainly not worth it to me.

Go with VHF communications (Jim Bass's pals) if they have what you
are looking for!

- VV
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From: Stuart A Kingsley <skingsle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Intelsat VA-F13 53.0 W
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:20:18 GMT


Although I won't say much now about my recent upgrade
to my TVRO system, I would comment that after I had replaced my 65 K C-Band
LNB with a 25 K version, I noticed another channel just below the U.K.
PAL feed on transponder 14.

During the morning, this channel, which appears to be counter-circularly
polarized to the U.K. feed, is a PAL transmission from Argentina.  In the
afternoon it carries another South American transmission in MAC format.

The interesting thing about this channel is that it is the strongest
transponder on this Intelsat.  On my 10 ft., 25 K circularly-polarized
TVRO in Columbus, the signal is just above threshold, with a few
sparklies.

If you try to receive Tr. 13 or 14 with a linearly-polarized feed, it is
possible that there will be some crosstalk between adjacent transponders.

Stuart

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 10:27:47 -0700
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@ELDEN.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      coax
X-To:         homesat@vm1.nodak.edu

 Another thing to consider for long cable runs at about 1 Ghz is
 surplus cable- tv cable.  Sometimes cable systems give away "spool ends"
 free for the asking (probably shouldn't mention you are going to use
 if for a home dish, though :-).

 This has been discussed fairly extensively in the Ham radio publications,
 particularly with regard to getting a signal for a 450MHz signal (used as
 a repeater) up several hundred feet of tower without losing all the
 punch in transmission line losses.

 Here at the school, I picked up some surplus T6 semiflex cable, series
 500 for free.  The specifications call for a nomimal attenuation of
 1.86 db / 100 feet at 600 Mhz.  Presumably it would also be usable up to
 1 Ghz with some increase in loss.

 The only bad thing about the stuff is that it uses non standard connectors
 and is like working with copper pipe (it's stiff!).  However, again in the
 ham magazines this has been discussed at some length.

 Worth a try if you are looking for something on the cheap...


 - Bob Wier

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:02:00 EST
From:         "Ed Bailey, Systems Group, X1-7560" <BAILEY@NIEHS.BITNET>
Subject:      Is it *really* that important I can't see G1?

    In the course of doing a site check for my soon-to-be system, I found
    that I'm probably not going to be able to get a clear shot at G1 or
    anything else further west.  Now, I'm not a *real* big cable-person,
    but I really would like to get a couple things that are presently on
    G1.  I guess the biggies would be CNN, and Discovery.

    I'd read here that many of the scrambled services are going to be
    moving further east, so I might be in luck.  Does anyone know if these
    two services are gonna be traveling east, too?

                        AdvTHANKSance,

                                Ed

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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: Re: Canal + in Fixed Key?
Organization: eng
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:03:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.111209.27201@cs.tu-berlin.de> harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann) writes:
>Hi!
>
>With my almost brandnew D2-MAC receiver I noticed something very
>strange the last few days (since Friday): Although the picture was
>garbled (which could be seen for a fraction of a sepond while tuning
>to this channel) my receiver would descramble the picture and sound
>continuously over the last few days! I certainly didn't take out a
>subscription to Canal +, even if I wanted to I couldn't (here in
>Germany) and my receiver doesn't even have a card-reader (which seems
>to be the only thing mising for full eurocrypt capability).
>
>Has anyone else noticed this, or did this only happen to me? When I
>tried this morning the program remained coded. I for one won't miss
>it...

Yes, recently I got my descrambler to run and it decoded Canal+
in free access mode. Your D2-MAC receiver must have a descrambler
built in?

>
>In reference to Jurgen Bartels posting that the channels other than
>Antenne 2 on Telecom 1C have Antiope teletext, I would seriously
>dispute that. Assuming that even Antiope is some sort of data in some
>blanking interval, there is absolutely nothing to be seen on any
>channel except on Canal +. This seems to be deocder support though...

I don't have a Antiope decoder, however on a number of TELECOM channels
I see a data stream in the VBI. What else should it be? These channels
are broadcast in France terrestically and those definetly carry Antiope.
Can anybody from France confirm this??

Jurgen



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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:34:00 CDT
From:         "I'D RATHER BE FISHING THAN ON THE VAX" <REDLCW@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      ABC Sunday Auto Racing

For those interested the auto races that are scheduled for ABC on
sunday are broadcast without commericals 'the best part', on G6-5 at
the same time they are scheduled for normal (ick) TV. The audio must be
changed to 6.220 MHZ to hear the announcers.  There aren't any races
scheduled for Easter Sunday so you can try the following week.

                                                For Your Info
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From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Subject: Kudos to rec.video.satellite and Pacific bird questions
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale, CA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:24:58 GMT

I've finally taken the plunge and ordered a Drake 1524, a 30 degree C-band
LNB, a .9 Ku-band LNB, and a Chaparral Corotor II+ from Jim Bass. Thanks
to everyone who took the time to respond to all my questions. The resounding
praise for the Drake on the net (plus Jim Bass' endorsement) was a major factor
in my decision making. If I had not heard about Jim Bass on the net, I might
have payed $500-700 more for the gear I ordered.

I'll be using this gear with a 12' Orbitron dish that came with the
house I bought last year.  Jim indicated that provided I have the look
angles, I should be able to get a couple of the Pacific Intelsats that
carry New Zealand and Australian feeds and programming. My questions
now are:

What are the look angles I need? (I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area)

Has anyone been receiving these birds? If so, is there any notable programming
on them?

Are there any other birds out over the Pacific that my equipment might be
able to receive?

Is there some kind of reference book that provides information about all
the satellites of interest for TVRO purposes?


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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:02:31 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      SURPRISE, SURPRISE !

CNN Intern'l is on ASTRA since Friday, April 10th. Totally unexpected
out of the blue. Transponder 28, with a Betzdorf FuBK Testpattern for
some days, and the ASTRA Info Computer output for some time, now
carries CNN International. This is a big step for CNN, and I guess
congratulations are in order!

Wolfgang

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