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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: HOW BOUT EM!!
Keywords: nowworshipmoranow
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:33:24 GMT

In article <1gq567INN29o@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:

> >Well, from the current looks of things, my Aints will be hosting the
> >Eagles; and THEN to Candlestick, providing the Vikes/GB don't choke against
> >the Skins.

>Excuse me, but you forgot the small fact of a game in Dallas before 
>you can pack your bags for candlestick park.

Really?  I know we were just through this, but I thought WC1 (which
the Saints are virtually assured of) first plays DC3 (Minnesota) and
then DC1 (SF).  Dallas would come last for NO.

No?

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From: blanchar@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: Bears 30, Steelers 6 !!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:26:25 GMT


As the subject says, Bears 30, Steelers 6.  What a game by the
Bears!!  I guess Singletary's last home game fired them up.  But
at least we did win another game this year, not like '89 when we
went out with 6 straght losses.  Bears defense did the job today,
forcing 4 turnovers and holding Foster to under 25 yards in 12 carries.
Bears offense didn't turn the ball over, also, and Neal Anderson
scored 2 TDs, one rushing one receiving.

Other early scores:

San Fran 20, Vikings 17.  Vikings were at the 49ers 30 yard line with
about 3 minutes to go down by 3 (20-17), but I didn't see what happened.
I assume they had a turnover.

Colts 10, Jets 6.  Not sure if this is a final but that was the score
with 30 seconds left.

Cheifs 27, Patriots 13.  

Detriot 24, Brown 14

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From: lilley@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Shannon Lilley)
Subject: Re: all SB winner
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:08:16 GMT

In article <8058@news.duke.edu> whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.204918.10643@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec15.164850.15221@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes:
>>
>>>     Might mean that winning breeds winning attitudes for the future,
>>>wheras the Broncos, Bills and Vikings of the world are left to be the
>>>cannon fodder for the above-listed teams.
>>
>>So what happens if the Vikings and Broncos go to the Big Dance?
>>-- 
>
>They would tie...
>
>-Will

  0 - 0  after 4 overtime periods.

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From: bmr@gonzo.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bruce Reagan)
Subject: Re: non-kickers kicking 
Reply-To: reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com
Organization: unknown
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:43:27 GMT


I believe Tony Galbraith did some kicking for the Saints one year.  I think he
hit about half of his extra point attempts.

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Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.pro:28146 dc.redskins:265
From: hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,dc.redskins
Subject: redskins' playoff chances (was Re: Washington/Dallas Matchup)
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:54:37 GMT

grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes:
>If we beat Philly, the only way the Skins won't make the playoffs is if
>7 other games (2 DC, 3 GB, 2 Philly) go wrong.  This is assuming that DC
>wins the tie with GB (which I think is true) & Minnesota wins once.

This is correct, DC wins a tiebreaker with GB unless DC loses both its
remaining conference games (but beats the Raiders) and GB wins both
its remaining conference games (but loses to Houston).  In that case
GB would have a better conference record than DC; otherwise DC wins on
the basis of either conference record or record against common
opponents.  (There is conceivably another possibility involving a
3-way tie but it's so unlikely I'll ignore it.)

Basically, aside from the above scenario any combination of DC wins
and GB losses totalling at least 2 puts DC in (unless DC goes 0-3 and
loses a tiebreaker to someone like the Rams or Giants who goes
3-0--unlikely but definitely possible.)  So one sure thing is that if
DC wins 2 of their last 3, they're in.

If the DC wins plus GB losses total only 1, the only hope for DC is to
go 1-2 while GB goes 3-0 and have one of two things happen:

Vikings lose to both SF and Pittsburg (not altogether unlikely)
and/or
Eagles lose to DC and either Seahawks or Giants (or both)

In the first case GB wins their division and DC beats Minnesota in a
tiebreaker on the basis of head-to-head record.  In the second case,
DC either beats the Eagles outright or wins a tiebreaker with them
based on head-to-head record.

Curiously, it could actually help DC to have GB beat Houston.  Why?
Because this keeps alive the above possibility that GB goes 3-0 and
wins their division outright while DC ties Minnesota at 9-7 (whereas
if GB would have lost to Houston, Minnesota would win the division and
GB would beat DC in a tiebreaker if DC's only win is against the
Raiders).  There are of course cases in which GB beating Houston hurts
DC, but they all involve DC losing to the Raiders...

So anyhow, the chances of the GB/Houston outcome affecting DC seem
relatively small to me, but who to root for is unclear.  Then again,
if DC beats Dallas, a GB loss probably clinches a spot, so I'll know
who to root for in that case.

Sources for the above:  The Washington Post (mainly for data) and me.
I could of course be wrong (but I spent longer than I really should
have thinking about this last night, so think twice before you doubt
me...)

Brian Hunt
hunt@ipst.umd.edu
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From: asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar)
Subject: Mr Sajja:The Net Policeman??(Re:Redskins Repeat)
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:27:20 GMT

>Article 39615 in rec.sport.football.pro:
>From: Rajeev  Sajja
>Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!

>hey, ramesh will you please go to some one who knows how to post on the
>net and take some lessons....
	[stuff deleted]

Mr Sajja:

	Why have u taken upon yourself to act as a police man on the net.
I guess u derive some innane pleasure by picking on people.  If u were
really concerned, then instead of just flaming away, u could have sent a 
message to the system administrator alerting him of the problem.  

	And if I remember correctly u are really "CONCERNED" about the waste 
of bandwidth by others  and "STRONGLY BELIEVE" that this group should be
used by the fans  for football discussion only. Then how come u
CONVINIENTLY forget all this for yourself and thinking yourself to be
Mr. Knowall posted the above unneccesary piece of trash on the net.  
Guess u live by some special rules,i.e " Do not practice what u preach".  

Gee!  I should have sent u a mail. But i guess it wont help, coz it is
better to behave with people like u just in the way that makes u feel more 
comfortable and at home. 

> ramesh get a life will you.......

Guess u need to do the same.....

>-Rajeev

Ashish
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:50:16 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:50:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: Re: Packers still alive
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:09:37 GMT



In article <3141@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
->From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
->Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
->Subject: Re: Packers still alive
->
->In article <1992Dec14.185818.13425@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
->>To win the NFC Central the Packers still have to beat the Rams in GB 
->>and the Vikings in Minn and the Vikings must lose to the Steelers in 
->>Pitt next weekend.
->
->Gads, who would have thought it seven weeks ago, but the Packers are actually
->looking pretty good to win the NFC Central!  They should be able to handle the
->Rams (unlike some teams; oops, just a grumble from a Cowboys fan), and after
->such an embarrassing loss to Chicago, the Steelers are going to be pretty
->fired up for the Vikings game.
->
->This will be the only interesting divisional race left on the last week of
->the season.  Two divisional foes, winner takes all -- football in December!
->Gotta love it!  It would be better, though, at Lambeau Field; outside, where
->football is supposed to be played.
->
->Daniel Welch
->

It wasn't an embarrassing loss for the Steelers.  They got pounded by the Bears
because they are not that good, probably the most over-rated in football.
You think that the Bears pounded them???  Wait until you see what the Viking D
does to the one-dimensional, Bubby-led steeler offense. 

Hopefully, the Vikes are sick and tired of saying "we'll clinch next week" and 
get it done.  They have actually played better on the road this year, which IMO
is a welcome change from the past when they would go 8-0 at home but suck on
the road.  Maybe less pressure on the QB and offense to produce away from the
Dome will help also.
 
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles win in OT
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:46:46 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <wf=_c=O00WBME2On4k@andrew.cmu.edu> tm3c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Timothy Murphy) writes:
>On 14-Dec-92 in Eagles win in OT user Satish Nair@a.chem.upenn writes:
>
><Man, if those Hawks only had some sort of an offense, they'd be incredible!
>Reminds you of the Eagles in 1991, doesn't it?

The '91 Eagles look like the 49ers next to Seattle's offense.

Daniel Welch
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:10:10 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Re: I'm a Vikings fan..please shoot me!!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:53:11 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

At one point in the game yesterday, Anthony Carter was
OPEN downfield and if Gannon had hit him it would have
been a sure TD.

Know what, Gannon doesn't even see him......and
Dick Stockton severely crticized Gannon for that.

Not only that, even Terry Bradshaw criticized Gannon for
his getting sacked two times when the Vikes could have
tied the game.

Will the Vikes break my heart in 92.....
S.H


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From: jcj@tellabs.com (jcj)
Subject: Re: The Pack is Getting Closer!
Organization: Carl Pellonpaa Fan Club - South Chapter
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:00:29 GMT

(Frank Zorn) writes:

>I agree.  Let's show some class.  Too many of the posters to this group show
>us that if they had one less chromosome, they'd be a Simpson.  Let's grow
>up.  Don't stoop to such low levels.  I'm a big time Packer fan, and I'm 
>really happy with the way they've been playing, but why slam other teams, or
>other teams' fans? ...
>Go Pack!  Let's finish the fight swinging!

I'll stop wallowing in my Bears-induced depression long enough to clench 
my teeth and say I wish both the Packers and Vikings good luck;  the
Vikings because as a Northwestern alum, I know Dennis Green paid
his dues and the Cheese... er... Packers 8-) because my dad is a big Green
Bay fan.  
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From: smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Morris )
Subject: Lions Stuff
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 18 Dec 1992 12:25 EDT  

QB:  I said this a couple weeks ago but, since somebody asked,
Andre Ware will finish the year as starter barring injuries.
It was very encouraging to see him play as well as he did but
come on, it was only one game.  No reason to get tickets to next
year's Super Bowl quite yet.

To the guy who asked about Willie Green:  He's off suspension,
but I wouldn't play him in a fantasy league.  He's still in the
doghouse and Reggie "Stone Hands" Barrett will start in his place
on Sunday.

Prediction:  As a public service (I haven't been right once yet this
year, so bet the other way), I'll predict..... Take the Lions and spot the 2.5.

Ron
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:20:13 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:40:54 GMT

jg> JOHN

jg> Yeah, I know, they were favored by 20.5 points. Hey, they won. 

  If a team favored by ~3 TDs can just barely beat a turd 4-10 team, they 
  don't deserve to be in the NFL.

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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: Tim Harris -- Rootin' Tootin' 9'er
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:50:47 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <1992Dec15.185130.11114@sequent.com> newson@sequent.com (Newson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.073213.15159@microsoft.com> richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut) writes:
>>Folks, I think I'm pleased that such hypocricy is in San Francisco where it
>>belongs.

>What a joke! Who gives a shit what you think!

Obviously you, or you wouldn't have posted this follow-up.

>Your obvisouly having a hard time
>coping with the 9ers success this year, and this is a silly way to vent it!

There's that "your" when one means "you're" again.  Is this some sort of
disease which has afflicted sports fans?

>If Harris wants to start slinging his 6 shooters, let him.

That would be perfectly fine with me, _if_ Harris hadn't made pejorative
comments about Packer fans and the Green Bay Packer organization with
respect to those 6 shooters.  The fact is, the man's an asshole, which, by
my reckonning, makes him perfectly suited for the city of San Francisco.


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