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From: euatno@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Nopp)
Subject: Re: Good Norwegian beer
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:23:13 GMT

Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton) writes:

>> Jon Noring writes:
>> 
>> >Specifically, are there any Norwegian
>> >brands that can be purchased in N.A. or Europe besides Ringnes Gold or
>> >Frydenlund Pils?
>> 
>> I've always enjoyed the Aass brews:  Pilsner and Bock.  I've found them here
>> in California.

>Interesting. This makes Aass the Norwegian equivalent of Moosehead, i.e. much
>more widely available abroad than in the country of origin. Aass is very
>difficult to find in Oslo, which is only 40 km. away from the Aass brewery in
>Drammen.

Ha.... no problem finding it in Sweden either...... And I like it.

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From: pgybass@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (michael patrick swain)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: santa fe pale ale
Date: 6 Sep 92 05:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi Kids:
	Has anyone out there tried Santa Fe Pale Ale?  I was on vacation
last week in the New Mexico area, and found the stuff to be truly wonderful.
Any comments?  I'm also curious about its availability outside of NM.
Great label as well.

michael patrick swain
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 11:26:37 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Alcohol content

aargh! i am distraught! both guinness and bass make non-alkies! awful!
i've got to get my hands on some of that mcewan's scotch malt, though.
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From: c9037163@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: something you must know
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:49:10 GMT

I love Beer, who doesn't
 
If they don't love beer they are losers.
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: Alcohol content
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 03:55:35 GMT

In article <190l6bINN2du@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>Perhaps now that this list has re-emerged, I can get an explanation
>on how to read it.  When I see entries like...
>
>Grolsch Lager Beer                  5.11     44
>   Grolsch Bierbrouweri (Holland)  5.17     44
>                                    5.16     43
>                                    5.37     44
>
>How am I to read the different numbers for Grolsh?  Are these indications
>for more than one brew (Grolsch Dark, etc), or perhaps for content in
>different countries?

-----------------begin quote from list intro 
 Some variation was noted in alcohol content
among different containers of the same type of beer. A dilference of 1.5
percent was found in one type of regular beer and 1.6 percent in another.
-----------------end quote

Begin light flame: RTF.. uh.. I, yeah, RTFI. <grin>  End light flame.

To tell you the truth, I wondered about it the first time I saw the list as
well, since the intro was missing from the post I originally grabbed.


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From: gregf@shaman.sps.mot.com (Greg Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Chili Beer
Reply-To: gregf@shaman.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:55:49 GMT

In article <7SEP199220521395@sigma.tamu.edu> rkb6116@sigma.tamu.edu (Mr.  
Weather) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.155734.21923@spider.co.uk>, peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter  
Woodhouse) writes...
>>Was in a pub last night which had some bottles of chili beer (it has a  
chilli
>>in the bottom of the bottle but I'm not sure if that is the only thing
>>that adds the chilli taste to the beer).  So after bracing my taste buds,
>>I bought a bottle....
>
>[rest of message deleted]
>
>After many weeks, I finally bought a bottle of this a couple of days ago.
>The particular brew I picked up was brewed by "Crazy Ed", I believe.
>
>Because the heat sensation causing chemicals are soluble in alcohol,
>I'd bet that they just season the beer with the chili that's floating
>in the top of the bottle.  I also noticed that the chili had a small
>slit in the side, presumable to keep it from swelling up, or perhaps to
>let the juice inside get to the beer.
>
>It was average on the "hot" scale, and would be good with a plate of
>nachos or a pizza.  This is a novelty beer, and worth one try if you
>have the money to spare.
>
>Mr. Weather <> aka Ken Blair <> rkb6116@zeus.tamu.edu <> Aggieland USA

Well, I've been to the brewery, and had their best. I thought that their  
normal beers were horrible, and wouldn't dare test the chili beer. Crazy Ed  
has a chain of restaurants in the Phoenix area that are steak/hamburger houses  
that specialize in the "wild-west" atmosphere for tourists. His chili beer  
fits into that type of setting well. (I envision a couple of fat, bald  
snow-birds seeing who can out-last the others while drinking chili beer).

The slit is to allow the beer/alcohol to get to the inside of the pepper. It  
will leach out the enzyme that makes it hot more quickly that way because the  
hottest part of the pepper is the seeds and the ribs inside.

Now, if I were to want to enjoy the combination of beer and chilis, I'd (dare  
I say it?) get an *ice-cold* Coors long-neck and a can of pickled jalapenos  
and sit in front of the TV. - *** Important note *** - Mexican food is the  
only time I can stand Coors ***. Or a cold Bohemia or Dos Equis XX with some  
fiery hot salsa and fresh tortilla chips and guacamole... mmmmmmm, I'm  
drooling. :-)

Greg

P.S. - I live in Scottsdale, so Crazy Ed's is "in my backyard".
From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Misspelling Guinness
Date: 16 Sep 1992 01:47:51 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hector.cs.brown.edu

After reading the humorous (yet apt) post about how to spell Guinness,
I noticed something on the menu at dinner tonight...

"Guiness"

...I had a Bass Ale anyway, but found this a remarkable coincidence.

-David V.
 dwv@cs.brown.edu
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From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: Guinness (non-imported)
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:33:51 GMT

In article <BuMnoq.E5I@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:

>Although Guinness is one of my favorite beers here in the states, have any of 
>you had it where it's brewed??  I was just in Ireland (and I visited the 
>Guinness brewery).  The Guinness there tastes much different, and is much 
>better in Ireland.

Have you tried the "draft" Guinness in a can?  Smooth and yummy, much better 
than the bottled stuff.  Unfortunately I can't compare it to the real thing, 
not having been over there.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
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From: stam@dgp.toronto.edu (Jos Stam)
Subject: Re: Pubs in Geneva
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:20:52 GMT

brown@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.carl.brown) writes:

>  I'll be going to Geneva next week, (and every 6 months thereafter),
>and am interested in finding a few nice pubs.  It would seem that
>Geneva would be accommodating to the international clientele with
>spectacular selections of world brews.  Any and all suggestions
>would be appreciated.

Well don't expect too much in Geneva. There used to be a great bar called
the cafe des Grottes (in the quartier des Grottes) which had an amazing
selection of beers (and matching glasses). It always used to be very dirty
in there with old drunks and skinheads... Just my type of place. Unfortunately
I think it does no longer exist. Last time I was in Geneva (a year ago) I
was very disappointed by the night life there (even worse than when I left).
Most pubs (in the old town, place du Molard, and rue de Berne area) serve
Swiss draught and very expensive mainstream imported beers (they even had
Budweiser, blech). Try out Carouge (a burrough of Geneva) it has some neat
bars, but don't expect a wide variety of beers there.

sante,
Jos
From: bmyers@garnet.berkeley.edu (Brian Myers)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: CA: beers i should drink/avoid
Date: 7 Sep 1992 02:22:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Shannon, you're not the first to warn against Monterey Brewing Company
on this thread (nor is this the first thread where the subject's come up.
We're building up a real concensus here.  Seems like they have a real 
infection problem, have had for years, it's in all their beers, and they
won't admit it.  "Some people come from 70 miles away to drink our beer,
" they told me when I asked sort of indirectly about the bad taste.  
"Everybody has different tastes," they said.  And sure enough there are
always a few people in there with full pitchers of the awful stuff.  I
really don't see how they can stand it.

Brian Myers
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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: NC micro/brewpub status
Date: 5 Sep 92 07:42:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Well, basically, my girlfriend's trying to convince me I should go with her to 
North Carolina for Christmas, & I'm just looking for a little extra incentive.  
I think we'd be going to Raleigh, but I'm not positve.  So, are there any micros
or brewpubs up there that I should check out?  Or do the have any at all? 
Thanks for any info....




Chris
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From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Coors & High-Gravity Brewing (long)
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:01:39 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

> Can someone tell me why there is such a great desire to bash producers of
> American light lager?

1) They have brainwashed the public into thinking that beer is a tasteless,
   watery beverage.
2) They don't fully disclose the ingredients in their product.
3) They have stupid ads.
Anyone else want to help me out here.

> I do prefer other more interesting beers, but regular beer is still much
> better than most beverages I could drink.

Not me.  I'd much rather have a glass of ice water.

> >"Finished" Coors Light has a SG of, what, maybe 1004?  So if the
> >"high-gravity" brew is diluted 1:1 with pure water, the high-gravity
> >brew's SG is around 1008.  That's high-gravity, all right...
> 
> Is this an attempt to be stupid?  Coor's light is about 4.3% alcohol, and 
> has 110 calories.  If you can make beer like this from a 1004 wort your
> name should be Jesus Christ.

Finished gravity!! I wouldn't doubt if "light" beer has on OG of around
1.020 and finishes around 1.005.

> >>WHAT SHOULD CONSUMERS DO?
> >They'd decide to drink Sierra Nevada Pale Ale...
> 
> Has anyone compared the price of Natural Light and Sierra Nevada recently?

My wife likes Michelob, and it's usually around $4 or $4.50 for a six
pack of bottles.  SNPA is around $6.  Certainly not that much higher
for the difference in quality.  And there always seems to be some
"quality" beer (Sam Adams, Boulder Beer, etc) on sale for $5.25/six.

> few homebrewers can brew as clean a beer as the major brewers, and I 
> actually find a nice chilled brew of this style to be a refreshing tipple
> on occasion.

As I said above, I'd much rather have a glass of ice water instead of
an icy cold BudMillerCoors.  Terry Miller says in his Pale Ale book:
"if you want something cold after mowing the lawn, that's what soda is
for".

> I have never tasted a beer that tasted worse than, say, a rum and coke.

I've had many, both homebrewed and commercial.

> Ulick Stafford
> ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu 

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
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From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: Coors & High-Gravity Brewing (long)
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:47:12 GMT

 
 Article 5800 (4 more) in rec.crafts.brewing:
 Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
 From: ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
 
 In article <BuE4wn.I4s@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) 
 writes
 :
 >I guess most of us who devote a great deal of time and energy to producing
 >a quality beer are a bit put out by the fact that so many people are
 >being deprived of the same quality simply by being sold down the river
 >through advertizing.
 
 <I am dissappointed at this flame, and normally restrict flames to email,
 as you know, but Jack for you I'll make an exception.
 
 I am dissappointed that even this simple commentary on what is painfully 
 obvious to many homebrewers has to be labled a "flame".  I have a real hard 
 time taking sermons and criticism seriously as a result of the loose use of 
 derogatory terms.
 
 >  Many Americans are under the mistaking impression that their brewers 
 behave much differently than those in other countries.  American beer is 
 comparable to Canadian and Australian beer.
 
 Well that may be true in an abstract sense and may be true of Canadian and 
 Ausie beers that I have not tasted.  However, I can unequivocally state that 
 I have NEVER tasted either, that I could not immediately say, "that is not
 one of the American biggies".  This is also true of Mexican beer and Japanese 
 beer.  Strangely enough, I have had a few German beers lately that could have 
 fooled me.
 
 There are lots of ways of schloking up beer and I don't doubt that they have 
 all been tried by most commercial breweries but leaving out the hops and malt 
 seems to be unique to American beer.
 
 American big beer, simply does NOT taste like beer.
 
 > Like it or not it is brewed freom malt, grains, hops, yeast and water and 
 defintiely fits any defintion of beer that I've seen.
 
 Definitions do not make for a tasty product.  I suspect there is only enough 
 of the stuff to meet the requirements of the accuracy in labling laws.  It's 
 the old "how much soup can you make from one chicken" problem.
 
 >  I brew because it is cheap, I can make better stuff
 than most regular beers.  Homebrewing is not a religion.  If
 beer wasn't taxed it may not be worth my while.
 
 That's fine and people brew for lots of reasons.  As one of independent 
 means, and lots of time and energy, I brew for a whole different series of 
 reasons.
 
 However, you asked a loaded question and should not be surprised that you get 
 what you perceive to be unfriendly responses nor do you need to put down 
 those who disagree with you.
 
 js

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From: cbacco@ursa5.cs.utah.edu (Corby Bacco)
Subject: Re: Homebrew
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:06:45 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Redirect your question to rec.crafts.brewing, there are people
who read that who can answer just about any question you can come
up with (and then some).  I'd answer myself but I only just 
started homebrewing (only 5 batches to date).  Glad you've seen
the light.  You won't regret it.

			Cheers,
				Corby


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From: mrsmart@cs1.bradley.edu (Robert Knautz)
Subject: Re: New Amsterdam Amber Beer
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:28:36 GMT

In <192soiINN9i0@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:

>In article <BuH6Ky.wH@unix.amherst.edu> mbfeld@unix.amherst.edu (MARLON BEN FELD) writes:
>>A lot of talk has been going on about favorite beers, so I have to plug mine:
>>New Amsterdam Amber Beer.

>   I'll add a plug for this one.  If I had to chose a single word to
>describe it, it'd be "nice."  It's not great, but it's really satisfying
>and is fairly cheap (costs about what Sam Adams does but tastes better).

I will also agree, it was one of the better beers I have tried.  Even
though the circumstances in which I tried it were sad.  The brewery which 
made Wild Boar Amber went bankrupt (former Dubuque Star brewery) and 
needless to say in the many months since then the stock had gone to
vinegar and the pub had gotten New Amsterdam Amber as a replacement.

p.s. I like wild boar more, but John Courage Amber is also very good.
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From: shirley@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Shirley [CSC])
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Coors & High-Gravity Brewing (long)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 23:41:18 GMT
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Originator: shirley@fdr


In article <Bu9q60.4Fs@wrs.com>, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
> In article ctua2s@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us, joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall) writes:
> >
> >                              * DISCLAIMER *
> >
> >I would also add that I don't drink either beer and probably wouldn't
> >recommend anyone drink either one unless he or she doesn't much like the
> >taste of beer.
> 
> Or lack thereof...
> 
> I don't drink either of these beers, and I can't even think of a good use for them.
> 

After you clean your carboy with too much (alkiline) bleech, you can
us a can of ether of these classics to neutralize the interior of the
carboy, and maintain sterility.

If there's one good thing about heat pasteurization, it's that it gets 
rid of all the nasties.

:-)
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From: esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Edwin Sharp)
Subject: Re: The *best* beer
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:05:12 GMT

 As I just said about Dunkel Erdinger, I must say that Guinness is tied for the
top spot on my list.  In fact, I was introduced to my two favorite drinks on
the same night in a small bar in Germany.  As I can get Guinness here, I am
reminded of the slogan "No beer comes near" (a friend of mine has a mirror/lamp
that her uncle tore of the wall of an Irish pub with that on it) every time I have one.
Edwin

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From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen)
Subject: The Beer Ordering List
Followup-To: rec.humor
Keywords: Beer, funny (or at least an attempt to be so)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:28:45 GMT


		The Beer Ordering List.
		(all pronounced with appropriate accents, of course)

American:		A beer please.
English:		A pint of your finest ale, ol' chap.
Aussie:			Gimme a beer, mate!
Canadian:		I'll 'ave a beer eh?
Dutch:			What's your cheepest beer?
German:			One beer <klack>.
Japanese:		I would like one of these <shows photograph>.
French:			<pinches waitress in ass>I will say this only once,
			so listen carefully, I would like a beer.
Russian:		Give me some of that stinking western Bush beer.
The Medieval Knight:	Wouldst thou permittest me to quaf one of these 
			brilliant, amber coloured beverages, my most esteemed
			patron of this fine establishment?


All I've got untill now, add-on and see what happens!

--Ralph Moonen
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From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Coors & High-Gravity Brewing (No longer long)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date:  9 Sep 92 18:00:38 GMT

scottg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCOTT GEORGE NORMAN) writes:

>John.DeCarlo@f131.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John DeCarlo) writes:

>>>Is this an attempt to be stupid?  Coor's light is about 4.3% alcohol, 

>>1) How could Coors Light have *more* alcohol than Coors regular?  That sounds
>>like a fishy claim.  Few US megabrews go over 3.9% anyway, due to state laws
>>restricting higher alcohol beers.

>It's been a while since I've taken the Coors tour, but as I recall them, the
>figures the tour guide gave were:  
>   Coors       - 3.7%
>   Coors Light - 3.4%
>   Coors 3.2   - 3.2%
>Any chance we're getting confused between pct/vol and pct/wt?

Very good chance.  The 3.2 is definitely percent by weight.  The above
numbers, in %/vol come out to:
    Coors       - 4.6%
    Coors Light - 4.3%
    Coors 3.2   - 4.0%

Which sound more in the ball park.

Jon Binkley


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From: kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater )
Subject: RUDDLES!!!??? where can I get some?
Originator: kjc7435@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:33:38 GMT

Anyone out there know where I can get some?  I love the stuff and can't
find it ANYWHERE in the U.S.A. ......

please send replies by e-mail to:
"kjc7435@ritvax.isc.rit.edu".

thanks.

K. Cater.

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From: jmarshal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John L Marshall)
Subject: Re: favorite beer names
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:09:08 GMT

In article <sehJP1W00WBL09A5ob@andrew.cmu.edu> Mark Wells Wilson <mw4w+@andrew.
cmu.edu> writes:
>Who cares about taste?  The most important thing about a beer is having
>a good tough-guy name.  What kind of self-respecting man drinks beers
>with sissy names like "Natural light," "Coors," etc.  when you can drink
>an ice cold Iron City?  (That's pronounced "Ahrn" in Pittsburgh, by the
>way)  
>
>mw4w@andrew.cmu.edu
>

I suggest you try Penn Pilsener, a much better "Pittsburgh" brew (not actually 
made in Pittsburgh, but close enough.)  Stop by the Allegheny Brewery on the 
North Side and taste some real beer.

You were right on one point though, the only way to drink Iron City is ice 
cold.  That way you can't taste it.  And yes, I'm from Pittsburgh...

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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Cherry beer (Victoria BC)
Keywords: cherry beer
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:14:28 GMT

scott@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Scott) writes:

>My fiance'e, a Parisienne, keeps telling me I should look for cherry beer.
>Now that she's back in Paris, she has no trouble finding European brews.
>Help! Anyone know of an American version of Kirsch(?)  ?
>I tried Brickskellar (in Wash. DC, definitely the place to go for enjoying a
>world-wide selection), but they're not into cherry beer.
>So,  if anyone knows of easier-to-find cherry beers...

It's probably not very practical, but if you are in Victoria BC,
Swans -- a brewpub -- makes it's own cherry beer using bing cherries
from the Okanagan.


A very interesting taste. I liked it.








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