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From: wljohnso@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: WANTED: REWARD OFFERED
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:35:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.215706.24313@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> davis@ucsu.Colorado
EDU (Barbara Davis) writes:
>hhamid@nyx.cs.du.edu (hassan  hamid) writes:
>
>>If you are a woman aged 17-24, 5'4"-5'9" tall, with beautiful eyes, goo

>>figure, pretty face, and a blonde or brunnete with softly permed hair,
>>then let me KNOW THAT YOU EXIST AND ARE READING THIS MESSAGE. I LOVE YO
.
>>HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
>>---HASSAN.
>
>According to your post of a few weeks ago, this is a total waste of
>bandwidth since the really great looking women are in majors that never
>use computers.
>
>I won't even comment on what type of man can love a woman based solely
>on her looks.  You wouldn't get what I mean and most of the rest of us
>know exactly what I mean.
>
>Barb
>-- 
>Barbara G. Davis                       Internet:  davis@ucsu.colorado.ed

>University of Colorado, Boulder 
>
>                   If I don't ask, you can't say, "Yes!".


The Inquisition, what a show...
The Inquisition, hey lets go...
 
Don;t include me in anything you say.  Seems like Hassan was slightly
mis-spoken and apologized for it.  However while you too may be educated,
you are a twit.  And an opinionated one, which makes you even more
annoying right now.

Who elected you alt.personals.queen?  

---------------------------------
William "Wes" "Gener" Johnson  |
--------------------------------
Jungle Drums, Word Of Mouth

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From: willittl@spock.NMSU.Edu (William  Little)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Dating my first love again...
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:03:15 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University


As the subject suggests, I am once again dating the first woman
I fell in love with, and the only one I have loved since.

Quick summary:

We met 2 years ago, and grew very close.  Our relationship
lasted only 6 months, but up until the last few days, there
were no problems.  The reason for breaking up - (her words)

"You don't seem to be pursuing your dreams like you should.
I have never loved somebody so strongly, and probably never
will, but this relationship is destructive to your future, 
and I can't live with that."

ACK!  Well, we continued to talk and kept in contact over
the next year and a half.  We both moved to oposite ends
of the country - she moved to Florida, and I to Phoenix.

I never thought I would see her again, aside from phone
conversations.

I became bored with Phoenix, and moved back to college.

Three weeks ago, I receive a letter in the mail telling me
that she is moving back, and is very anxious to see me.

Well, I never once quit loving her any less, and decided to 
"test the water" and ask her out.  She basically jumped at the
chance, and we went out.  And we've been going out for three
weeks.

Here is where I become confused.

The first two dates were very fun, but I was very nervous
and scared of her.  But, things started working out.

It seems to me that the rebuilding of a relation is taking place.
We talk and act like we are going out again, but nothing
has been said and the topic has never been brought up at all.

This past Friday, she startled me a bit with something she told me.
Not much, but some.

She told me that she was bi-sexual.

This really wasn't a shock at all.  When we first started going
out two years ago, she always told me of fantasies she had of
other women in bed, but being the 20 year old male, I look at it
like.. "cool...  2 women..  (smile)".  

I am assuming that this isn't going to affect our relationship, 
because it is going so well now...

But, there is also an underlying feeling of confusion.
I have never had to deal with this before, and am wondering
if I should.  I consiously convince myself to put it aside
because she is who she is, has always been, and always will be.
But the confusion is still there.

I plan on bringing it up next time I see her and ask if it
effects our relationship at all, and also attempt to gain 
insight as to where our relationship actually stands.

So, if anybody has any advice - please send it along.
Any would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Joseph Good
(the sole user of a friends donated account)

willittl@nmsu.edu  (widely used NeXT account)
atlantis@acca.nmsu.edu  (Joe's seldom used account)
QUIT
dely used NeXT account)
atlantis@acca.nmsu.edu  (Joe's seldom used account)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: We want your advice
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:30:18 GMT



There is but one course of action---stiffen your resolve and GO
MEET THE LADY.  Don't dilly-dally, don't dissemble, don't delay,
don't defer, desist, duck out---just DO IT.  The choice is up to
you entirely, but in scary matters like this, I'd try to follow
Yoda's advice:

  "Do, or do not---There is no 'try'."

Agree to meet her in some public place---a restaurant, or a mall,
say---that way you lessen the "formality" of the circumstances
under which you each form initial impressions of the other, so
you're not (both) wasting mental energy wondering if she thinks
you dress like a bum and vice-versa.  Keep the conversation as
light and informal as possible; above all, WATCH HER EYES VERY
CAREFULLY because you can tell alot about someone's attitudes
towards what you say from the way their eyes move around.
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.personals
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: WANTED: REWARD OFFERED
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:15:59 GMT

In article <009636A1.60F67EC0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> icero104@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>8In article hhamid@nyx.cs.du.edu (hassan  hamid) writes:
>8>If you are a woman aged 17-24, 5'4"-5'9" tall, with beautiful eyes, good
>8>figure, pretty face, and a blonde or brunnete with softly permed hair,
>8>then let me KNOW THAT YOU EXIST AND ARE READING THIS MESSAGE. I LOVE YOU.
>8>HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
>8>---HASSAN.
>
>	Isn't this the same guy that conjectured that beautiful (or whatever
>terminology) women have better things to do with their time than reading ap? 
>Well, good luck....
>								td
>							(a 22y/y 5'8" female
>							who reads ap)
>							(and rarely posts)

maybe he changed his mind :)

-bacon
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: feirtag@i5120b.nrl.navy.mil (Fred Feirtag)
Subject: Re: The virtues of internet
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:22:24 GMT

In article <Bx9AoJ.C5F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen) writes:
>	Now what, pray tell, does this have to do with alt.romance? Well,
>two hearts can touch over  internet even though the people are many
>miles apart. And isn't alt.romance about the touching of hearts? It is to
>me, and I see no virtue in all this gutter talk about sizes, fat guys, 
>use of the "f" word, etc; this bbs is about dating, love, commitment, 
>romantic nights, the proper atmosphere for love et al. And we should 
>keep it that way before we are all summarily dropped off the net.

In article <1992Nov6.062326.26459@netcom.com>, marcia@netcom.com (Marcia) writes:
> My understanding is that this groups is *about* romance. And let's face it -
> romance is not just about "dating, love, commitment, romantic nights", etc.
> Romance also has a darker side, a painful side - unrequited love, pain
> caused by misunderstanding, hurt when romance ends. And just because this
> isn't all "sweetness and light" doesn't mean it's not part of romance. (And
> that goes for sex, too - sex is not romance, and romance is not sex, but sex
> sure can be a part of romance.) I don't consider it gutter talk, but talk
> about the realities of romance - of what happens when you take off your rose
> colored glasses and blend your romance with reality.

Excellent Response, Marcia!  I assume that by '"f" word' J. Fippen means
"fuck."  It may be that the Tipper Gore's of the world will take over
the internet, but the only real "warning labels" belong on people who
cowardly surrender their freedoms without any fight at all.

I think it's amazing how repressed and inhibited many people are, myself
included.  I've always had a certain admiration for people who can curse
fluently and without inhibition.  Screw the "socialization" which crushes
our spirits as we grow up to be adults!

Regarding "sizes."  I'd like to read MORE about sizes.  If "big brother"
cancels this newsgroup, then we'll find another one.  As far as I can
tell, most heterosexual men don't really know much about other men's
shapes and sizes.  The general level of sexual ignorance seems to be
high, and I won't claim not to have my share of ignorance either.  It
seems to be the case that a man who is quite large is in a LESS
adventageous situation than a man who's average or even quite small,
with respect to finding a woman with whom comfortable intercourse can
be had.  At the very least, the "large" condoms are less available and
more expensive.  So, here's a question:  Why do we men generally wish we
were larger?

Let's hear from people who want to reduce needless inhibitions and
ignorance!

-Fred
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: moonbeam@iastate.edu (Timothy J Cockerham)
Subject: Re: Hi. Uhhh, I have a question...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:52:15 GMT

That's some great info. And a lot of it too. Thanks!
It gave me a lot of good pointers and hints. I know I could use them.
Thanks again.
-Tim-

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Childish Guys
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:03:35 GMT

In article <04NOV92.18052295.0070@lafibm.lafayette.edu>, CE42@lafibm.lafayette.edu (CE42) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.151801.5365@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> calvin@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (scott.a.kaye) writes:
>>
>> I've been reading the posts about childish guys, and I have to admit
>>that yes, I act childish too.  What do you think about a 23 year old single
>>gut that now owns 12 Disney animated features, both the American Tale movies,
>>and just this past weekend bought Rudolph, How the Grinch Stole Christmas,
>>and The Year Without a Santa Claus.
>
My kind of guy.


>After reading several postings on so-called childish guys, I must say
>that I think there is some confusion here.  There is a big difference
>between childish behavior and youthful appreciation of life. 

> Childish behavior is something
>entirely different.  A person is childish if they are obnoxious, selfish
>and don't recognize situations where a little seriousness is required.

My thoughts exactly, and I'm surprised so few people caught on to this:  There
is a BIG difference between *childish* and *child-like*.  Think about it.

Cheryl
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: casey@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sean Casey GSFC (301)286-4558)
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Get over Being Lonely
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.043557.8829@eff.org>, fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter) writes...
>aa762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Babinsky) writes:
> 
> 
>>It has been 2 months and 10 days since my girlfriend of 3 and a
>>half years has broken up with me.  After begging and pleading and
>>even calling her about 4 weeks ago (like a dummy), I was wondering
>>if you ever get over feeling lonely or missing that special 
>>someone to share life with?
> 
>Unfortunately.....the answer is no.  
Yes, a most definite no.

SC
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: LDR Contest!
Reply-To: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:11:25 GMT


>scott@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Scott) writes:
>
>>I'm more a reader than a writer, but here's a quick start for a thread:
>>Who's got the longest? (Oops, obsede', that sounds like alt.sex material)
>
>>Some lines I've noticed since finding a.r:
>>mvb@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael V. Barreca) says:
>>>Great, now I'm depressed. (my girlfriend lives 300 miles away)
>>stuarta@syd.dms.csiro.au (Stuart Andrews) says:
>>>She live in Melbourne, Australia, and I in Sydney, Australia
>>>A separation of some 750 kilimetres. If that isn't a LDR,
>>>nothing is :-)
>
well, I met my LDR on internet, and a relationship began the 
beginning of April (1992)...i am in youngstown, Ohio, and he is in Sheffield,
England..total of approx. 5500...close as we can figure ... he
was here this summer (6 weeks)..I am due there 2 weeks after 
Christmas..after that...it's a long wait till September, when he
moves here.....

(if i didn't win..do i at least get anice consolation prize..?)
-- 
A man does not insist on physical beauty in a woman who builds up
his morale.  After a while he realizes she *is* beautiful ---
he just hadn't noticed it at first.
                          from "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long"
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: fliriting and not knowing it (was: Re: Question For Guys)
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Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:06:33 GMT

Christopher Jon Petit (petitc@nuge101.its.rpi.edu) wrote:

:   What I want to know is:  Are there many women out there who will just TELL 
: you when they're interested, or do most women simply flirt and hope that their
: signals (vague as they are) are interpreted correctly?

Most women expect men to be psychic.  To be fair, most men expect women to be
the same way.

And yes, I *am* psychic...and I already know what Stephen Dennison's gonna
post in response to this... :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG          erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com         801/538-0177
"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.sex,alt.pagan
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:09:01 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <2AF80F2A.22348@news.service.uci.edu> cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:

>Out of ALL of the people in school I am close to, I
>and ONE OTHER PERSON are the only people to grow up in normal families.
>Everyone else?  Two alcoholic parents, one religious fundie, 

Ordinarily, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove very much, but in
this case you have shown that someone from a "normal family" 
can grow up to be a religous bigot.
From: Matthew Hall <mjhall@socs.uts.edu.au>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: letters, opinions, women, romance
Date: 13 Nov 1992 01:44:15 GMT
Organization: UTS Microcomputer Shop
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Phaedrus, bzb47596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>I am interested in knowing the opinions of a.r men and women on the effective-
>ness and usefulness of writing letters (man-->woman, or woman-->man) because
>I have found myself spilling my guts a lot more often in letters than in
>person.

Whee!  I'm unlurking, I'm unlurking.....
err...I have always found that I can say more in a letter.  I notice that I
have a completely different 'voice' there.  I must concur with all those
who say that in conversation they are slow on their feet, and may forget
some salient point they were going to bring up.

Also, there *really* is something special about a physical, hand-written
letter from a special someone, they have an impact that nothing else does.

I'm just starting out on a new relationship (I hope :^) with a letter,
she wrote me with a 'tick-a-box' letter, the kind where you pick the
appropriate option as you go, and I've responded with a hand-written
one pager -- just hope I don't blow it out of the water with this
first salvo!

--
"I want peace on earth and goodwill to | Matthew Hall  mjhall@socs.uts.EDU.AU
 all men"                              |     Apple Student Representative
"We are *the United States Government* |   University of Technology, Sydney
 we don't *do* that kind of thing"     | phone ++6123302466  fax ++6123302475
          - Sneakers, 1992             |   CompSci undergrd  "Eddie" - RHPS
From: cfg@cray.com (Cindy Glass)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: ~~ Saucy Equipment ~~
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:25:38 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <Bx9GEw.n4@brunel.ac.uk> cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (Benjamin Middleton)
writes:

>I have the most saucy friend. She has a matt black sheen,
>48 legs with metal accessories. Her name is KX3-185rev2.1.
>How do I tell her that I wish to cleanse her connections?
>
>Please help me.
>
>(Andrew Robertson)
>
>c/o
>
>-- 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~ cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hx-pro ~~~
>~~~ ben middleton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bass mechanic ~~~
>~~~ drn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ pattern avenger ~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Andrew:

  Perhaps the following:

"Oh my dear KX3 - I would love to treat you to the most delicious
Liquid Freon rub down that you have EVER had!  You will feel
better than a 185rev2.1b!  I want to do this for you baby -
please allow me to make you feel better than new again!"

  Hope this helps!!  Let me know how things turn out!

  Cindy
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: manhica@icaen.uiowa.edu (Artur Simiao Manhica)
Subject: SEEKING women with fantasies!!!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:10:37 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

Hi,  I am a 28 year old male who has some fantasies!!
If you are in the mid-west and have similar interests 
send me some e-mail.

Art


Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Tell her you're sorry...............
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:08:15 GMT

Thank you for your intelligent post, John!  I very much enjoy your insights
and comments.  Keep it up! :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG          erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com         801/538-0177
"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
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From: hhamid@nyx.cs.du.edu (hassan  hamid)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.personals
Subject: WANTED: REWARD OFFERED
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:35:09 GMT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.

If you are a woman aged 17-24, 5'4"-5'9" tall, with beautiful eyes, good
figure, pretty face, and a blonde or brunnete with softly permed hair,
then let me KNOW THAT YOU EXIST AND ARE READING THIS MESSAGE. I LOVE YOU.
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
---HASSAN.
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: letters, opinions, women, romance
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:18:01 GMT
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible

amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky) writes:
>01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.) writes:
>>In article <Bx8GBn.DHF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, bzb47596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phaedrus) writes:

>>> I am interested in knowing the opinions of a.r men and women on the
>>>effectiveness and usefulness of writing letters (man-->woman, or
>>>woman-->man) because I have found myself spilling my guts a lot
>>>more often in letters than in person.

>My boyfriend and I often resolve our arguments through email.  In this
>way, we can each get out our thoughts without being interrupted by the
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can't emphasize this enough...  This isn't 100% relevant to the
original question, because we're talking about the context of an
argument (and both she and I are very argumentative, tho we
occasionally disagree as to which of us is worse. *grin*)...  (There I
go, interrupting her again... *grin*)

>other person.  It also allows us to go over what we have said, making
>sure that we have expressed our feelings without being rude or
>insensitive.  I don't think there's anything wrong with spilling guts
>in a letter, as long as the two people involved are also able to
>converse in person.

Wow...  Formal language, Amy. :)

Oh well...  I guess now that I've been 'dragged into the conversation'
I'll put my three cents in...

I've always hated writing, but loved E-mail.  It's been much more
immediate, most of the time...  Even in high school (an exceedingly
long time ago) I was on a BBS with a few close friends; there were
some major fallings out between us, & none of us would talk to the
most of the others...  The BBS was the 'neutral ground' where we could
discuss what had been & still was going on.  Of course, as someone
else in this thread emphasized, it only works if people _check their
mail_... ;)

As far as letters go, I think Amy would agree that a letter I wrote
her (probably the only actual letter I've sent her in the almost 3
years that we've known each other) was instrumental in 'formalizing'
our friendship, which a few months later became suitable for
discussion in this group. *grin*

	-=Alan
From: lodonoho@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Advice needed on net relationship...
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:17:55 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin


 
 
A friend of mine (honestly!) has gotten into a very
awkward situation indeed. She asked me to post the following
message into the net under my a/c for obvious reasons,
 
cut here, etc etc
--------------------------------------
 
To cut a very long story short, I have fallen in love with somebody
over the Internet, and he has with me too. The only problem is one
very large one of distance - he's in Canada and I'm in the UK. I
heard about this sort of thing happening before in the Internet, but I
always thought it was such a ridiculous thing to happen to anyone...
that was until it happened to me.
 
Things have become very heavy between us and we've called each other
by phone quite a lot in the short time we've known each other. The
whole thing is getting to be like torture for me - there is no chance
of me going over to Canada or him coming over to the UK, what
I want to know is should I stop this NOW before both of us get hurt
anymore than me have too, or should I continue on? Has anyone out
there got any experience of this sort of thing happening......
 
Advice please!
 
Kate.
 
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