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From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:00:45 GMT

Us too...but through a lowly local BBS accessed by modem...

But what I REALLY intended to say:  People who meet and sustain
their relationship on a computer generally know each other more
thoroughly than "regular" folks; at least, they reach that level
of mutual knowledge FASTER than others...

Who else do you know who would talk to their RP for almost as
much time as they spend sleeping?  (Sometimes sacrificing the 
latter to allow for more of the former!)

I've always found it easier to phrase something difficult or
bring up an "unusual" topic (*grin*) over the computer than in
Real Life.  Ask Billy what we talked about that first week...

-sz
From: bolsen@cs.umr.edu (Brian Olsen)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Definition:  Nice guys.
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:26:55 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: bolsen@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu


I hope this hasn't already been discussed, but I'm wondering if a definition
from a "nice guy" has been established.

I personally think of a nice guy as being one who desires to establish a
relationship which involves unconditional companionship based on courtesy,
honesty and a genuine concern for the other party's well being (a genuine
romantic!).

Of course, I realize this little notion is very, very innocent and
naive:  any guy out there has the potential of being a self serving
bastard, me included.

Brian
From: zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LJBF songs
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:48:02 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep12.085058.23592@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu
(Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:

>>In article <1992Sep10.001622.20363@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) writes:
>>>Seems there are a few different varieties of LJBF songs we're running
>>>in to.

>>>1)  Type 1 is the "I hurt, and I need a good long cry" variety.
>>Wendy, The Beach Boys (especially the pathetic organ solo).

>"Terrible Lie" - Nine Inch Nails

Nah, if you want to consider NIN, the most appropriate one would be
_That's What I Get_:

"Just when everything was making sense
 You took away all my self-confidence
 Guess what I've been hearing must be true
 I'm not the only boy for you.

 But that's what I get.

 How could you turn me into this
 After you just taught me how to kiss you
 I told you I'd never say goodbye
 Now I'm slipping on the tears you make me cry.

 But that's what I get.

 Why does it come as a surprise
 To think that I was so naive
 Maybe it didn't mean that much
 It meant everything to me."

As a matter of fact, most NIN songs will do...

The only time in my life when I had to hand out an LBJF to a very
nice boy who, unfortunately, was threatened by my academic standing,
I was given a week later a hand-written copy of lyrics to Don Henley's
_You're Not Drinking Enough_, another one of those "you're gone and
I can't get over you" type of songs.  Oh well, we _did_ remain friends,
though, so the LBJF wasn't just a "nice" way of rejecting him.

  --Erin

   /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/
      Erin Zhu    (617) 661-8151  /   Out of the ashes
      872 Mass. Ave, #707         /   I rise with my red hair
      Cambridge, MA 02139         /   And I eat men like air.
      zhu@gevalt.mit.edu          /                     --Sylvia Plath
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: PAIN!
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 05:54:44 GMT
Organization:  Something close to nothing, but different than the day before

In article <199209110155.AA04973@mihi.une.edu.au> jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>well, life sux
>pain hurts
>and I wanna die

Here's a *HUG* for you, Master...go listen to Master of Puppets a few times...
it should cheer you right up! ;)

>Justin Bell 

   Tyger

-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break 
 
                       
        
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: Nice Guys (Solutions)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:02:47 GMT


There are as many women as there are men.  So, why
do people complain that they don't get anybody.
Because, the system has gone bad.  Dating should be
just what it should be - just dating.  A girlfriend
or a boyfriend is NOT a spouse.  If people took their
time to date as many people as they want to find 
their SO and don't enter into serious relationships
(mini-marriages) until they find somebody that they
are sure (then, go ahead and propose), everybody would
get to date, dating many people at the same time would
be acceptable (after all, nobody should be prevented
from dating anybody they like till they commit, since
marriage is no simple thing), and there would be more
satisfaction because you have chosen your partner from
among many.  People can still make bad choices (people
are stupid; appearances are deceptive etc.) but there
would not be as much of a nonsence, hurt feelings etc.
as there are now.  I think everybody should date at least
25 people before they decide on an SO. 

Suresh
From: trevino@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Melissa Trevino)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LJBF songs
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:31:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


	Hmm.....Just thought of a few more (from the country realm)

"Baby I'm down to my last teardrop"  Tayna Tucker (I think)
"Here's A Quarter (Call Someone Who Cares)" forget who wrote this one

I guess i will post if I think of mre.....

BTW...how does one become a member of RFA?  

melissa

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge104.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:54:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.161151.24855@athena.mit.edu>, zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu) writes:
|> Another hand here.  It started out as an email correspondence, turned
|> into a phone and email "courtship" (the phone part was limited because
|> we were 3000 miles apart), decided that we were in love about a month
|> and half into the conversation (without meeting or even seeing
|> pictures of each other, were we impulsive or _what_?), met in real
|> life a month later when he flew over to see me, I flew to see him two
|> weeks later (I had to finish finals), and moved in promptly.  It's
|> been a year and half since we started corresponding, and we're still
|> very much together.
|> 

  One question:  How in the world can you fall in Love when you haven't even
seen the person yet?

-- 
Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
scarcity.
MATWDTM:  Mothers Against Teenagers Who Drink Too Much (failed name for MADD)




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From: jcr@mbunix.mitre.org (Rogers)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:57:32 GMT

jjd@world.std.com (Jake) writes:
> sharon@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Sharon Curtis) writes:
>> what do you guys out there find really romantic for a girlfriend to do?
> I've found that if my SO "gives of herself" I find that I'm much more
> touched. Bottom Line:  personalizing something is romantic.  Anybody
> can address a card and lick a stamp.  Make your own card.

Hey, it's worth a try. I remember once when I was in college & my girlfriend
was still in high school, she complained that although she loved Lucky Charms
her parents wouldn't buy them because they had too much sugar in them. So I
bought a box of Lucky Charms, wrapped it up in plain brown paper, stencilled
the word "CARE" on it (like the CARE packages in TV commercials), and wrote
a letter to go with it. In the letter, I pretended to be a boy from South
America sending a care package to this poor underpriveleged girl in the US.
When she got it, she was thrilled, her parents were impressed ("so original,
so creative"), in short, I was Mr. Cool for a while.

Good Luck,
           -- Jeff R.

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu)
Subject: Re: PAIN!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:14:10 GMT

jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>well, life sux
>pain hurts
>and I wanna die

I hope you don't mean that last line.  Sure, pain hurts, but remember
that without pain, there can be no joy and pleasure.  

For any who want to hear, I have a wonderful romantic story that has
changed my present (and possibly future) life.

You want some tips?  Wait.  I know, that SUCKS.  I am the most impatient
person I know (my girlfriend knows that!).  Also, if you have any past
pain, do yourself much more of a favor than you realize: talk it over
with a good friend.  Your best friend is optimal, but any close friend
will do.

It really is true, what they say: once you forget about someone, and
quit looking for someone else, someone will pop into your life.  I'm
living proof of that one.  I just didn't realize it until it happened -
I didn't realize I had something to put behind me till one day it
happened.

Good luck to you!

Daniel
--
Daniel L'Hommedieu / Junior, CSC Depatment, NCSU / eagle@catt.ncsu.edu

	"Love is like an hourglass, with the heart filling up as
	 the braine empties"--Jules Renard
From: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: PLEASE!  I need your help!  LDR, RELIGION..
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:43:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

Well here I am.. almost 2 months into a wonderful LDR with a girl from 
New York.  I've been to New York, she's been here (Baltimore) and we just
got back from a vacation in Disney World.  Things are going really GREAT!
There's one problem though.   She hasn't told her parents yet.  Reason?
They're Jewish and I'm not.  Her parents are VERY set against her dating anyone
who isn't Jewish.   She has three sisters... two of whom are married to Jewish
men.  One other sister isn't seeing anyone at the moment.  Anyway, she's broughtup the idea to her mother and her mother said something along the lines of
"Over my dead body..".  Needless to say she is very distraught about the whole
situation.  She is torn between her family and me.  Either way she chooses, 
she's gonna get hurt.  What I need now is to hear from you on what she should
do... she's getting pressure from just about everyone but me to tell her parents
and get it over with.  It's going to be a very hectic life for her when this
happens and since she is just finishing up school and lives at home.. it will
definately be tough.  I just want her to have someone on her side so she doesn't
have to go through this alone... her one sister that isn't married isn't very
supportive.  Anyway, I've thought that she could go to a rabbi her mother trustsand have him smooth things over... does anyone think this would work?  Is there
any alt.religion nets that I could go to?  Please... I need some advice... CAN
ANYONE HELP ME?????
				THANX,
				 	Dave
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Omar A. Zaidi)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Reply-To: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:09:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.164048.11037@spc.nl>, stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes:
>
>Romantic songs?
>
>How about...
>
>"Butterfly on a wheel" by The Mission, a bit on the melancholic side, but very
>nice, my RP/SO adores it.
>For something super-sweet try "The Nightingale" from the Twin Peaks soundtrack.
>Or if you're a bit depressed, try "Tomorrow's Tears" or "Adoration" by
>The Cranes.
>More straightforward is "Mad about you" by Sting and if you feel up to it,
>try "For her light" by Fields of the Nephilim....
>
>And there are so many more...
>-- 
>"We convoke the Nephilim and they come  {*}  Stefan Posthuma,  SPC Company
>to us, strangers with the eyes of men."  |   stefan@spc.nl


Well,

my SO and I like "All I have" by Beth Nielson Chapman.


If you're reading this Jennifer.. I love you!!!! :-)


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From: gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 07:46:35 GMT
Reply-To: gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

In article <BuLBJv.px@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai) writes:
>In article <8b0y-hk@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
>>  One question:  How in the world can you fall in Love when you haven't even
>>seen the person yet?
>
>One may as well ask: How in the world can you fall in love when you've only
>seen the person (i.e. never met them)?

Think about this for a minute;  people do it all the time.  Love does not
exclude lust, y'know, and it's not a bad starting point.

It depends whether or not your hormones are alive and kickin', I suppose.
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:51:56 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <rf0yfrm@rpi.edu> pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli) writes:

>  3.)  Attitude is everything.  If you're always whining about how no one is
>       interested in you, no one will be.  If you have a little confidence in
>       yourself, then maybe you'll get taken seriously, and get a date every
>       now and then.  It's not how much you're worth... it's how much you and
>       consequently those around you think you're worth.

BINGO!!!  I have a specific one in mind -- he's cute, sweet, NICE...
But he won't quit complaining of his failure rate, at least to me.

Hearing someone say they're not attractive, no fun to be with, etc,
tends to CONVINCE after enough repetition...

(I have a feeling that those towards whom he doesn't directly whine 
can feel it in his aura...lack of confidence is so obvious, it's deadly.)

-sz
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
From: David James Foremsky <df1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 20:19:08 -0400 
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If you want classical, it doesn't get much better than the Fifth
movement of Mahler's 3rd symphony, subtitled "What Love Told Me"

deej
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: PAIN!
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:11:47 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <199209110155.AA04973@mihi.une.edu.au> jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) echoes:

>well, life sux
>pain hurts
>and I wanna die

at j hug j 
trans j
'What's up?
:looks concerned.

-sz
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: krpeters@athena.mit.edu (Karl R Peters)
Subject: Re: When Magic Dies
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:42:08 GMT

In article <BuA7tq.HsI@wpi.WPI.EDU> gryphon@wpi.WPI.EDU (M-5) writes:
>Here's a little something I wrote a little while ago.  Feel free to copy/
>distribute/whatever it, as long as you keep the title bar and my name with 
>it, don't charge for it, and don't change it...
>
>Enjoy...

(poem deleted)

>
>	--"When Magic Dies", 27 August 1992
>	  Benjamin D. Hutchins  (c) 1992
>
>--G.
>
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>INTERNET: gryphon@world.std.com               BELLNET: (508)755-4675
>SNAILNET: Benjamin D. Hutchins, 14 Dover St. #2B, Worcester, MA  01609
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kinda reminds me of Terry Pratchett's reasoning as to why male magicians
don't need women. :-)
From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romance? Romance!
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:28:43 GMT

In article <Bu4CA4.91t@wpi.WPI.EDU>, gryphon@wpi.WPI.EDU (The Emotional Yo Yo) writes:
> In article <+_1y2h+@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Sep4.130955.25908@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>, jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Livy) writes:
>>|> Gee,I have an idea! What about posting some romantic things to this newsgroup?
>>|> I know that on the last period ROMANCE isn't exactly what you may find here,
>>|> but,you know,make an effort...huh? whaddaya say about it?
>>|> Thanks,folks
>>|> Livy
> 
> But you're missing the point...alt.romance is for the armed conflict of the two
> camps of the world: the wide-eyed innocents who still believe that love is good
> and romance exists and all will end happily, and the bitter, dark-souled fringe
> element who know that love is evil and romance is dead and all things end in 
> tears and grief!  It's not for the actual discussion of _romance itself_?!?!!
> 
>>
>> Well, we could all post romantic stories.   How 'bout it?
>>
> 
> *ralph*
> 
> Personally, I think that's a terrible idea.  It'd end up being another 
> alt.sex.stories, only with longer candlelight scenes.

	How does that saying go-one person's romance is another's sex?

	Capital point, here.
>>-- 
>>Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
>>scarcity.
> 
> :-)  I like this.
> 
> --G.
> 
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> INTERNET: gryphon@world.std.com               BELLNET: (508)755-4675
> SNAILNET: Benjamin D. Hutchins, 14 Dover St. #2B, Worcester, MA  01609
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	Last year we had a great little thread going about Romantic songs.  The
odd thing is, somebody wanted it to also me songs that had the basic rhythmical
thing going on to coordinate your love-making with.

	It originally started about songs with Romantic lyrics.

	Might as well waste some bandwidth by starting it up again.  Check out
my other posting, kay?


		Kyle
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:52:29 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System) writes:


>	Well, the story is this:

>		I met my actual SO through the computer, in school. We started 
>	talking with each other with VAX Phone, and we were going along
>	real fine. The problem was that it was becoming almost an obsession, 
>	and we spent as much as 7hr/day sitting in the computer rooms.
>	We study in different schools, so we still didn't knew each other for
>	real. But this was to end. The big day arrived, we went out together, 
>	both kinda nervous (if the REAL thing proved dissapointing, it would be
>	hard for us to be able to talk again). And, well, it just couldn't've
>	been better. 
>		We *STILL* went along fine, and well, one thing leads to another.
>	Somedays later, we were each other's SO :).

>		Is there anyone else out there who met his/her SO through the
>	computer ? It would be fun to hear similar cases.

Maybe - I'll report back in a few months or so. :)

> joao Pedro Martins, Lisboa, Portugal - jota@tutor.UUCP
> 
> "Carpe Diem, she muttered, and laughed. We seize the day.	
>  Well, sometimes, the day seizes back !" (Psychodrome) 

Wulf                    | "Martha, it's another one of those CS majors asking
jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu |  if cow chips are pin-compatible with 68040s..."
From: jturner@lonestar.utsa.edu (John M. Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:55:57 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

I have several personal favorites, but my most favorite romantic song is
Jim Croce's _Time In A Bottle_.  Some others that I like include Stephen
Bishop's _It Might Be You_, Journey's _Faithfully_, and Bread's _If_.

John Turner
--
jturner@lonestar.utsa.edu                              John "J.T." Turner
Wherever you go, whatever you do, whatever you say, say it with love.
(Moody Blues, Keys of the Kingdom)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: It hurts like hell
From: dayrton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:17:27 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <Bu24HB.I7K@cs.psu.edu>, so@cobol.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So) writes:

> For the last couple of days I've not been able to do any useful working,
> all because of a relationship which has been over for some time.  I talked
> and talked with friends trying to relieve the pain that's hurting me deep
> inside my heart.  My friends keep telling me that it's over, and I should
> just move forward.  "Yes, I know," I said, "but the pain is very real."

Yes, it is very real--I'm in it right now, way over my head, all I can do is
walk and cry and the worst part is that it is my own
fault.  Try to cycle your friends around, not wear any of them
down too much.  Find a therapist, minister or some other "trained listener" to
help you work through this.


> Now I know that it is not just a possibility, it actually occurs.  When
> a relationship is broken, people have changed, you know a dream has vanished
> and the good old days are gone.  But when every little thing in life

The paradox is that the other person has changed and won't believe that you
have.  I'm looking at this from both ends of the telescope right now--one at a
person who says she can be what I want but I don't want her, and the other who
waited for me to change and now has moved on. 


> God, if you are listening out there, will you deliever me from this desperate
> situation, will you?

SHe hasn't answered my prayer yet.  Still hoping, though.  Hoping very much.



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