From: hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (hasit mehta)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 40% Discount of ZyXELs
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:56:54 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <tuc.718501216@cs.wisc.edu> tuc@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Brian A. Cole) writes:
>hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w) writes:
>
>Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:
>] Way out here in Albuquerque, we have BBS's that are primarily intended
>] for Mac users; ironically, the server is often a DOS machine, running
>] MS-DOS BBS software. On my DOS machine, the menus come up with lots of
>] ANSI graphics and line-draw characters. I wonder what the Mac users
>] see?
>
>I hadn't used a DOS-oriented BBS since the IBM AT was brand new, that is
>until a few days ago when I tried the ZyXEL BBS.  I am now qualified to
>answer your question as to what Mac users see.  We see a bunch of strange
>characters that don't make any sense.  I seem to recall almost an entire
>screen of small, cursive 'f's most vividly.
>
>Earlier in this thread someone said that ZTerm (shareware comm program
>for the Mac) could display ANSI graphics.  I tried version 0.85 and got
>another screenful of 'f's, so I looked a little harder and found version
>0.9.  Wow, those menu-things are pretty neat-looking (if slow to transmit).
>
>I figure most Mac users don't use ZTerm 0.9 (I didn't), so I made sure that
>the log-on screen I submitted didn't use any of the strange characters.
>I suppose this more-or-less means that I won't win the contest, but if I
>did the BBS would be slightly less unfriendly to non-DOS people.
>
>brian
>
>PS.  I couldn't find a copy of ANSImouse, which supposedly can _generate_
>     (as opposed to just display) ANSI screens, so I just did it by hand.
>     I'm told that it is share- or free- ware, so if anybody knows where
>     one is floating around I'd be interested in hearing where.  (Someone
>     suggested "Olympus (the hermes support BBS)", but I don't know what
>     number to call.)  Then again, I probably will never need to design
>     another ANSI screen.
>
>PPS.  Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that the ZyXEL BBS was
>      so Intel-oriented that there wasn't even an "other" option for
>      the "What machine do you have?" question that all new users must
>      answer.  This really stuck out at me, too, so I left a note for
>      the sysops.  I got a reply today.  I'm paraphrasing, but they more-
>      or-less said "yeah, we're just beginning to notice how alienating
>      our system is for Mac users; but don't worry, we just use that
>      question for marketing dad anyway."  :-)
>
>-- 
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Well I uploaded the program ANSIMouse to the ZyXEL support BBS it is in
section (#4?) the video section it is a SEA archive so every mac user should
be able to get it and use it. I hope this helps.
hasit
BTW-Most mac BBS users in my area DO use Z-term 0.9 not .85.