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From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: My 2 cents
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:25:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U

Just some things I've learned in 25 years of owning cars. 

Maintenance: Preventive Maintenance is where to put your money. Change the
oil often (at least every 3000 miles or 3 months whichever comes first).
Fleet maintenance managers, car manufacturers and oil companies all agree.
Change the oil, often. The only disagreement is how often is often. I 
recommnend the more often the better. If you want one word of advice that
if you follow it will save you a lot of money, CHANGE YOUR OIL.

Synthetic oil: Oil gets contaminated chemically, and physically. Just
filtering oil does not renew it. The oil needs to be changed to do it's
job. Synthetic oil is so expensive you can't afford to change it often
enough.

Miles per gallon: All other things being equal, the fewer revolutions
per mile, the greater the gas mileage. If you want top gas mileage, get
in high gear early and stay there. Also, it will usually get you better
gas mileage to floor it it 5th to pull a hill than to 3/4 throttle it one
or two gears down. 

Acceleration: Is directly proportional to power to wieght ratio. 

Cornering: Light cars corner better (all else equal). Tires make a huge 
difference. A STIFF suspension generally will corner well. Shocks don't 
effect cornering (much).

Compression tests and leak down tests: Tell more about the condition of a 
car than anything else. Do one on all cars you are looking at to buy.

Premium Gas: Usually, if a car is manufactured and tuned for regular gas,
premium will not help it (it won't hurt it, but why throw away $). BTW
higher altitudes tend to lessen the need for premium (higher altitude lowers
compression). ( I live in Boulder ).

Traction: 2 wheel drive is really only 1 wheel drive with the wheel with the
least traction being the one that spins. So if you have the left wheel on
an ice patch and the right on pavement, the left one will spin. Put the 
right wheel on ice and the left on pavement then the right wheel spins.
(Ain't life a bitch!!) 
The above is not true if you have limited slip differential. (That works)

Character: People have it and I think cars have it too. Some people love'
their car because its got character!

Vehicles I've owned:
1951 Henry J (Kaiser)
1962 VW bus
1966 Hodaka (motorcyle)
1964 122S Volvo
1973 Mazda pickup (piston)
1974 Saab
1978 Chevy Monza
1969 Ford 3/4 ton pickup
1983 Chevy Van G20
1985 Nissan Stanza
1983 Honda Shadow (motorcycle)
1987 Honda Hurricane (motorcylle)
1983 XR500 (motorcycle)
1988 Audi 90
From: gidewall@cps.msu.edu (Kenton C Gidewall)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Breaking in cars
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:16:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: gidewall@indian.cps.msu.edu

I just bought a new Saturn on Tuesday and brought it home.  After I
got home I read the owners manual about breaking-in a new car.  It
says that for the first 500 miles I should drive at varying speeds,
avoiding driving at one speed for a long period of time.

The problem:  The dealer where I got it from was 100 miles away,
so I drove the car home for about 1 1/2 hours at 55-60mph.
(I even used the cruise control most of the way).  It started out
with 36 miles.  Have I possibly done some damage to the engine?

  Kenton
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From: roa@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert O. Anderson)
Subject: Auto Leasing !!???
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:18:22 GMT


        Does anyone out there lease a car...why or why not?? What are
the advantages/disadvantages of leasing?? How long does the lease last??
How many variables can you throw into lease deal??

Inquiring minds......

bobby
From: sowellrm@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Jordan Formula 1 GIF posted
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:27:29 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

The car JIF's are probably located in the alt.binaries.pictures.misc
newsgroup for all of you that were wondering.
From: crmeyer@pcs1.physics.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Scout II
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:38:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCSB Physics Department

article <1992Apr2.164101.7466@ncsu.edu> edhresko@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
>>--	Anyone out there know where I can get parts for my '77 IH Scout II?


Sources of Scout Stuff:

  Giddum Up Scout
  20-A Mountview Lane
  Colorado Springs, CO 80907
  (719) 599-4247

  Super Scout Specialists
  5550 Old Lower Valley Pike
  Springfield, Ohio 45506
  (513) 882-6464           (they have a catalog)

Another Source of Info (newsletter):

  Scout Happenings Attn Wanda Ray
  4026 Senour Rd.
  Indianapolis, IN 46239
  (317) 862-2653

                      +-----------------------------------+                    
                      |         Charles R. Meyer          |                    
                      |                                   |                    
                      | Internet: crmeyer@voodoo.ucsb.edu |                    
                      | Bitnet:   crmeyer@voodoo          |                    
                      | HEPnet:   voodoo::crmeyer         |                    
                      +-----------------------------------+
From: wong@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (WONG  Peter Chih Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: RX-7 TV Commercials
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:13:14 GMT
Reply-To: wong@bullet.ecf.utoronto.ca (Peter Wong)
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept. of Ind. Eng., U of Toronto, Canada

There are currently two commercials playing here in Toronto, 
featuring the new RX7 and I'm wondering whether these are showing 
in all North American markets or not because some of my friends 
have not seen them at all in other cities.

1) Dusty room, sun streaming in through high windows, camera
   pans down from windows to a yellow RX7 sitting there alone
   on the floor. This advert has Canadian AJAC award specific
   narration so it may be Canadian only. "It took 3 months
   for the [AJAC] to test drive the new RX7, but only 3 [?]seconds
   to make their decision... The all-new RX7, voted best performance
   car for 1992..." There's an almost identical one for the MX3.

2) Features red RX7 without spoilers but claiming sport-model
   performance, lots of fast cuts, all showing the car on a
   closed track with interior gearbox action and lots of closeups
   of various parts of the car, in motion and still, and ending
   with the car just in the doorway of a garage/hanger and a silver
   model in the background. Narration mentions '500 pounds lighter
   than the competition', '0-60 in 4.9s', 'learn a lot in 4.9s,
   a lot about how to build a better Mazda (or something like that)'

I've seen the first since about two months ago, and the last one
just appeared last Friday (to my eyes at least).

--Peter
From: dcg@mogun.UUCP (David Gunsul)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re:  <<< Mustang Powered Miata >>>
Summary: oh nooooooo
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:48:39 GMT
Organization: Hotrods `R' Us, Montgomery, IL

In article <1992Apr10.062833.17928@menudo.uh.edu>, kevin@taronga.taronga.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
> 
> >It's a shame there used to be a time when the car was thought of as a friend and
> >not just another machine.
> 
> I think you have a slightly optimistic view of history here (except possibly
> for the period of time in which the automobile was a new invention).  I
> can't think of a period in history in which most cars manufactured were
> specialty cars of one form or another (e.g., musclecars).  Even during the
> musclecar era, most of the cars made were the garden variety.  They just
> happened to have bigger engines than they use these days.

Garden variety? I can't remember any Musclecar that was garden variety.
Heck, you could get a station wagon with a big block.

The 426 Hemi, 327 "fuelie" Vette, 302 Z-28, Boss 429, 455 super-duty,
440 six-pack, LS-6 454, ZL-1 (aluminum) 427, 455 GSX.
These are just a few examples off the top of my head, there's countless more.
All of these engines could be had on virtually any car.

I don't think I really have an optimistic view of history at all, that's
just the way it was.
I mean, now-a-days we can't even have sex with anyone without worrying about       
death.     
Sure, there was bad times then but how do they compare to todays problems?

Oh well, sorry I rambled on so long but IMHO the cars of today just don't compare
to the speed or seat-of-the-pants fun of the cars of yesteryear.
 

> >                       David Gunsul 
> >                       dcg@mogun.uucp
> 
> 
> 		Kevin Brown (kevin@taronga.taronga.com)




                       David Gunsul 
                       dcg@mogun.uucp
                       

                       The information contained in the post above
                       may be unsuitable for younger or more sensitive
                       readers. This post was written as it happened,
                       nothing was reenacted.
From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: End of Golden Era at Honda
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:13:54 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: sgccrjh@citec.oz.au's message of 8 Apr 92 11:07:53 GMT
bcc: carl


>I have never liked the Legend, it just does not cut it in the luxury
>market against the Europeans and other Japanese offerings such as
>Lexus and Mazda 929

Which Lexus, the one that retails for 10k MORE or the one that retails
for 7k less (than the Legend LS)?  I don't think the LS400 is a fair
comparison, it's in a different class AND price range and is an
extremely nice car.  The ES300 is just a Camry warmed over.  I was not
impressed by the Toyota salesmen and the Lexus salesmen acted like
Toyota salesmen with more expensive suits.  Salesmen aside, I still don't
care for the ES300.

As far as the 929 goes, it hardly even gets mentioned.  I believe that
the 929 is a BIG disappointment for Mazda.  I can't believe anyone
would makea car in this class without a glove box at all.  The Legend
will run away and hide from the 929 (which has a 0-60 of 9.3).  The
929 is a highway cruiser and not much more.  Road and Track recently
compared the Legend LS, Audi 100S, 929, Vigor GS, Lexus ES300 and
Diamante LS.  THe 929 and the Diamante were not judged to be very good
drivers cars and scored very poorly.  I pretty much agreed with their
assessment.

If there's one car that is really worth mentioning it is the Audi 100.
I didn't get that one because I felt that it was underpowered.  The HP
and torque numbers are roughly comparable to the Vigor, but the Vigor
is a much quicker car (probably due to having 4 valves/cylinder vs
2/cyl in the Audi).

-Carl-
--
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: floyd@eng.umd.edu (Mike Hughes)
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 15:56:10 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <5354@nosc.NOSC.MIL> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:
>
>One more time --
>
>the intake restriction imposed by a closed (idle-position) throttle plate is
>the only significant difference between an idling (or decellerating) gasoline
>engine versus a Diesel. 

	Ok, lets think about this...Walt, did you purpously avoid the 2 or 3
responces from the people that tried your test (throttle closed vs. throttle
open)?  I planned on trying the test as soon as you guys (Alan & Walt) proposed
that vacuum was the major factor in engine braking.  When I tried it, I found
*NO* noticable difference in the effect of engine deceleration.  I STILL think
that the single most important factor in engine braking is ring friction, fol-
lowed by maybe the inertia of reciprocating parts (dependant on speed).

>			   Since it has been demonstrated that, in general, a
>Diesel provides little-to-no engine braking effect (so little that Diesels are
>fitted with aftermarket devices to enhance the effect) the production of
>manifold vacuum is the prime contributor to engine braking. [flame deleted]

	We seem to be forgetting MASS.  Have you ever seen a 'Jake Brake' on
a small truck?  Think of this...If rigs used gas motors, don't you think 'Jake
Brakes' would be used on them also?  Obviously, I can't invalidate (or
validate) your personal experiences, but I find it hard to accept what you
said a while back (something about driving two equally large trucks, one gas
and one deisel), stating that the deisel 'freewheeled', while the gas motor
seemed to have lots of resistance to freewheeling.  

>
>Walt K.

-Mike

:Suicidal Tendencies=====> He's a carrier of death a stork in reverse,        :
: =8^) Mike Hughes  =8^( : he blesses you with sickness cause love is a curse.:
:Mail---floyd@eng.umd.edu: The arsenic in your Koolaid, the bomb in your mail,:
:Voice--(301) 340-0922   : he disappears in motion but leaves a bloody trail. :
From: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Fabulous New RX7
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:18:23 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Mar26.180732.9937@eff.org> peterco@eff.org (Peter A. Cohen) writes:
>last 14 years, as well.  Still, I think it's lost something in the
>translation- the RX-7 has gone from an affordable, fun car to drive to a
>high-bred racing vehicle more on par with a Porsche or a 300ZX. 
    
    And of course the 300ZX started as an inexpensive sports car as
    well...and if you go back FAR enough, so did the Porsche ( a
    hopped up VW in the early days...)

>
>What's really out there for a cheap new sports car, by Mazda or otherwise?
>
   Dunno, but there would seem to be a decent market for one.  Have
   heard rumors the Koreans are working on one....
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From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Tests of Air filters, was Re: Air Filters--Fram vs K&R
Keywords: air filters K&R pipercross
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:04:07 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In article <1992Apr6.111548.10373@doug.cae.wisc.edu> dschneid@galois.ece.wisc.edu (Dan Schneidewend) writes:
>
>As far as the discussion on filter effectiveness, I dont have
>any specific numbers, but I know - 1) It's good enough not
>to void your warranty, 2) HKS performance (I company that
>makes performance parts and does extensive testing on
>anything that they sell) recommends them for both performance
>and reliability enhancement. 3) I am
>a member of the University Formula SAE team, and we have
>spent many many hours of dyno time with K&N filters.
>We have also put paper filters behind a K&N, and after
>hours of running the paper has no visual difference from new.
>
>Granted this is all circumstantial, but it is good enough
>for me until I see hard numbers.

In Nov 1989 Performance Tuning published some tests of some similar sized air 
filters. The data are reproduced without permission, but the magazine folded
about 3 months later, and they kept half of my subscription money :(

			External 		Flow Rate (cfm	Percentage
			Dimensions (mm)		at 1.5 inch	Efficiency
						depression)

K & N Challenger	65 x 190 x 157		345		97.5
K & N Oval		82 x 179 x 114		323		97.6
(oiled gauze type)

Pipercross KK300	65 x 190 x 150		274 (dry)	50.8 
						233 (oiled)	93.9
Pipercross PL200	82 x 190 x 150		225 (dry)	44.5
(Three layer foam)

ITG Megaflow		72 x 190 x 150		236 (dry)	25.9
(Two layer foam)				224 (oiled)	70.7

Paper			65 x 175 diameter	228		98.2


For a Ford Escort XR3i flat panel filter,       Flow rate /cfm

Motorcraft original equipment paper filter	311
K & N oiled gauze filter			366
Pipercross PP38 oiled foam filter		228


The tests were to the ISO 5011 standard.  The filtering efficiency was 
measured at the UK Motor Industry Research Association. The filter was 
placed in a sealed airbox, and air containing a standard dust was flowed 
past at 150 cfm (cubic feet per minute).  40 %  of the dust particles 
are between 0 and 5 microns (10 e-06 m) in diameter, 18 % were in the 
5-10 micron range.  Many manufacturers specify that original equipment 
filters must have an efficiency of greater than 95 %.  ITG were about 
to introduce 3 and 4 layer foam filters to improve their performance.  
K & N and Pipercross have their own test results which show even higher 
efficiencies using a similar test with coarser dust. 

They stated that the dust-holding capacity of the three types of filter 
construction were, in descending order; foam > oiled gauze > paper. 

Thus, it seems that the K & N filter allows an increased flow rate whilst 
retaining a reasonable filtration efficiency.

			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: Stuff...
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:54:50 GMT

Paul, I'm glad that you explained your thoughts for me. Since a considerable
amount of the original article was missing i couldn't quite see what you were
trying to get across. When i read my E-mail today someone informed me that i
must have a comprehension problem. I don't think that the article could stand
alone without further info as to what was trying to be accomplished. 

I see this a lot on the net. People trying to cut and past articles so that
followers don't have to wade through them again, and that's fine. But if the
message of the article is lost in the process, then what's the point?  

Anyway, Thanx for posting a follow-up instead of trying to attack my
intelligence and fueling the ongoing flame-wars.

>DAVE____________________MAY THE G-FORCE BE WITH YOU!_______johnson@yuba.WRS.COM


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From: rajiv@mbunix.mitre.org (Kohli)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,soc.culture.indian,misc.consumers,alt.sctivism
Subject: Followup - 3: Discrimination at Mitsubishi
Keywords: Racial Diamante followup
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:56:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA


	Sorry! I forgot to readin this file to the previous followup

	For all of you who are interested in the followup
	Here is the letter I received from the Attorney General
	of New Hampshire...Not much of support here too

	Or was it APRIL FOOLs joke from the State of NH

	Who do the citizens of America have to turn to?
		Ghost Busters !!!!
=============================================================
Letter from Attorney General Office of New Hampshire
=============================================================
	Department of Justice
	State of New Hampshire

John P. Arnold
Attorney General

					April 1, 1992

Re: Our File: CP-92-0695

Dear Mr Kohli:

	Thank you for your recent letter informing our office
	of a possible violation of New Hampshire's Consumer 
	Protection Act.

	Although we are unable to pursue the matter further at
	this time, the information will be kept in our files 
	and, thus, be readily available for additional review.

	We appreciate your bringing your concerns to our attention

			Very truly yours

			Diane L. Lombardo
			Paralegal - Consumer Bureau
			(603) 271-3641
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: shantanu@poseidon.oakhill.uucp (Shantanu Ganguly)
Subject: Re: CRX [was: Re: Future Honda Accords]
Organization: SPS CAD, Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas.
	<SHANTANU.92Apr8111440@poseidon.oakhill.uucp>
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:33:07

In article <SHANTANU.92Apr8111440@poseidon.oakhill.uucp> shantanu@poseidon.oakhill.uucp (Shantanu Ganguly) writes:

   The latest Car&Driver has a picture of the Del Sol. I personally
   didn't find it appealing - it has the nose of the current Civic
   hatchbacks, and the back of the MR2. As usual, US drivers will
   miss out the good stuff - a supercharged vtec of ~200 hp and 4wd will
   be offered in Japan only. The limited info seemed to imply that
   the US Del-Sol will be pitted directly against the non-turbo MR2. 

   Another titbit for Honda enthuiasts - new Integra to be out in
   early 1993 in 3dr hatch and 4dr hardtop style. 
   --
Correction : the Del Sol will have engines varying from 106hp (base)
to 135 hp (Si) and Japan will get a 165 hp VTEC with limited slip.
There's talk that the '93 Integra will have a supercharged 200hp
vtec with 4wd (GSR?).

Shantanu
--

Shantanu Ganguly
Semiconductor Systems Design Technology, Motorola

dot dot dot : shantanu@poseidon.sps.mot.com
bang bang   : !cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!poseidon!shantanu
ring ring   : (512) 891-2335

#disclaimer     This has nothing to do with Motorola.

WARNING : Do not remove tag under penalty of law.

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From: jrp@bohra.cpg.oz.au (John Pitman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: spark plugs
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:37:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Power Software

hi there
I just saw a post on spark plugs commenting that most spark plugs will 
work ok in most cars. I'd be a bit careful here. some cars are VERY sensitive
to plug heat range  - i did say SOME. One rover 2000 i had , had been fitted
with BOSCH plugs of recommended spec (instead of CHAMPIONS), and under a
full throttle emergency I got a misfire, which turned out to be a piece of
internal insulator coming off the nose. I know of several other Rovers which
suffered fatal consequences due to right make/wrong heat spec or wrong make/
right heat range. If you do experiment, do it carefully, with short tries of
full throttle usage, and make sure you mixture is NOT lean!
jp
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Oil recommendations sought.
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:33:30 GMT
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies

In article <1992Apr13.042618.5462@walter.bellcore.com> jchen@flash.UUCP (Jason Chen) writes:
with regards consumer reports oil testing
>Castrol was the best in PETROLIUM-based oil. Mobil 1 was the best of all.

um, then, did they test Redline, Amsoil, or Spectro?  i'd have expected
any of these three to have easily outperformed Mobil 1.

richard
-- 
richard welty                            518-393-7228
welty@cabot.balltown.cma.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: klm41661@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kevin L. Molander)
Subject: Question about old 5spd quote
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:01:39 GMT

I was wondering if anyone remembered a quote about women and 
automatic transmissions.  It was in a car magazine a few years ago.
It says something to the effect that the Automatic transmission set men
back so many years or allowed women to catch up so many years.
It was basically rude to women who can't drive stick.
(Like my girlfried, who needs this quoted to her)
It was said sometime around the 30s or 40s.

Thanks,

Kevin Molander         klm41661@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: CRX [was: Re: Future Honda Accords]
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 18:03:12 GMT

In article  Andrew Scott Beals, abeals@autodesk.com writes:

>Yes, son, it is.  They're not available this model year and will be
>available when the '93s hit the market.  They will have a targa top
>and look more like the new-style Toy MR2.

In Japan it's known as the "Del Sol."  It's built on an entirely seperate
platform as the Civic is (as it has been for a while, I think), and will
be out soon.  It's really cute.

I've got to say, though, that Honda designing has been running a little
too close to Toyota lately (actually, Mazda can be accused of this, too).
 The Del Sol's front has teardrop shaped low-beam headlights and seperate
small, round highbeams that give it an extraordinary resemblance to a
Lexus SC-400, not yet fully grown.

- Peter