HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Kenneth K.F. Lui)
Subject: Re: Re: VCR Maintenance Advice Wanted. Head Cleaners Any Good?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:52:38 GMT

In article <76140018@otter.hpl.hp.com> dps@otter.hpl.hp.com (Duncan Smith) writes:
>My UK Ferguson (= JVC) has what I think you mean by `realtime counter'.
>However, it does not obtain a real time off the tape, eg if you put in a tape
>that is somewhere in the middle and rewind, it will start at zero and the
>time will become increasingly negative.

Yes, that's what I mean by a realtime counter.  My Sony does this
also.  Um, I believe realtime counters, as they exist on consumer
VCRs, give you a count in relative terms and not absolute like
CD players or LaserDisc players playing CLV discs.

>Real realtime read off the tape would require some sort of timecode to be
>added to the tape, presumably to blank tapes too, which sounds unlikely.
>
The counter doesn't work on a virgin tape.  There's nothing for
the VCR to sense whether it's been recorded in SP, EP, or LP
mode.  And, that information is only obtained from reading the
tape...unless VCR technology has changed within the last few
years.  I just purchased my Sony several weeks ago and haven't
followed VCRs for years, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

I did get an e-mail reply from Alan Larson (larson@net.com) who
wrote:
  >If a VCR has a realtime counter, then the video tape will be in
  >constant contact with the heads.  E.g. the counter reads in
  >hours, minutes, and seconds instead of some arbitrary number.

    The control head counts pulses for this, not the video head.
  There is no reason to maintain high tension on the video head,
  so the wear can be much lower.

Thanks Alan.

>My VCR also only has halfload transport and for ff/rw there is definitely
>the sound of the tape being unwound from the drum, etc. before things start
>to happen.
>
My Sony does this, too; but without a plexiglass enclosure, I'm
not sure.  During high speed rewind, the transport does some more
gymnastics before the action begins.  Perhaps--through Alan's
response--when I stop a tape from playing, the tape unwinds from
the video head but the control head is still in contact with the
tape until high speed rewind is selected where the tape goes back
into its shell.

>Duncan

Ken
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: CVD Vdeck info
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:08:38 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

A quick note on the CVD-1000 VDeck - It has _no_ LP record mode.  It will 
playback, but not record, LP mode tapes.

My guess is the Vdeck is basically based on the V801 CamCorder.  They have just 
about the features.  The menu system between the two is almost the same.  Again 
guessing Sony took a V801 and a Vbox and created the Vdeck...
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: JVC BR-S378U: Any experiences with this model??
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:05:44 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, becker@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (John Becker) writes:
>This is a low cost industrial S-VHS editing machine. Has anyone had any good
>or bad experiences with it? In particular, I'm wondering if it is more
>ruggedly constructed than the JVC consumer models, and if it is free of the
>loading mechanism and automatic tracking problems that seem to plague many
>JVC consumer machines.

I recently evalated a pair of these (confiogured for editing) in conjunction
with a technical review I did for the magazine WEdding Videography Today
(301-869-6878).  I do not have prior experience with JVC non-portable
decks.

I was impressed with the general signal quality in both audio and video.
The pair does a nice job with synchro editing.  The 378 has built-in
color balance controls which function on recording and playback.  The
378 is one of the only prosumer decks I know of that has a provision
to eliminate that jiggleing at the bottom of the frame due to head switch
error.  My main complaints with the 378 are that there is no edit control
provision - no control L, no 5-pin - and it's difficulat to set edit
points precisely based on audio contents.

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From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: More Video Tape questions!!!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:32:41 GMT
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539


        Okay, it's been generally accepted that Maxell tapes rule (I'm buying a
storm of the new VX-magnate (replaced the XL-HiFi I think) tapes at $3.99 a pop
on sale).

        Someone e-mailed me and said that it is a better idea not to use brand
new tapes for long term archiving.  Something about the oxide wearing off on
the first coat, thus it being better to break in the tapes by recording on them
once then mastering it.

        What opinions on this?

(Maxell HGX-BLACK rules!!)
(I've had very sub-par results with HGX-Gold compared to BLACK just to let
        everyone know of this..  might have just been a bad batch though).

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From: gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Film vs. tape
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:20:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Sep8.192038.11193
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Sep8.145720.27178@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>
>I am looking forward to seeing one of the new Kodak Photo CD's that
>were just announced.   Resolutions are extremely high from what I have
>read, but the limits will be the viewing device.   I wonder just how
>close it will look to film (stills that is).   The devices are supposed
>to be capable of storing reproducing well beyond what we have available
>today.    It's catching up, but film is still the superior format.

PhotoCD will have about half the resolution of a standard 100-400 ISO film.
If you want, I can post a pretty informative post that describes the
resolving capabilities of the PhotoCD.

Gary

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: degen@bnl.gov (Christopher M. Degen)
Subject: Need service manual for VCR (JC Penny model no. 686-5038)
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: Brookhaven National Lab (RHIC Project)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:52:40 GMT

Hello VCR service guru's.

I am having trouble finding a service manual for my VCR.

It's a JC Penny VCR model no. 686-5038 (VHS, four head, stereo, 128 channel
cable ready, silver with IR remote). It's made by matsushita (panasonic),
and it cost me about $1000 9 years ago.

The JC Penny Parts Distribution Center says they no longer have any and It
does not appear that SAMS makes a VCR Facts for this model.

Does anyone know of an equivalent model (say, a panasonic), so I can get
that service manual? Does anybody have a service manual they are willing
to part with? To photocopy? Anyone know of an alternate source? Any other
suggestions? Please E-mail. Thanks.

Regards,
Chris   

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Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: bates@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Andrew Bates)
Subject: Does anyone have LBX TRON?
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:10:03 GMT



    Does anyone out there have the Japanese LBX TRON laserdisc?  If you
    do, please email; there are a couple of questions I would like to
    ask about it.  Also, I know this is a long shot, but if you want to
    sell it....:/


        Andy Bates.


Newsgroups: rec.video
From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: The Wall & Brazil LDs
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:09:12 GMT

In <1992Aug24.035738.6302@wam.umd.edu> dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:

>In article <1992Aug24.000957.120899@zeus.calpoly.edu> claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) writes:
>>
>>Anyone know if the LD of Pink Floyd's The Wall is the same as the videotape or
>>the movie?  [which are different, for those not in-the-know. ;)]

>Having never seen the film in a theater I don't know what the differences
>are between the film and VHS, but I'm guessing that the LD comes from
>the same "version" as the VHS tape. The most obvious difference between the
>LD and tape is that the LD is available letterboxed.

Well, I DID see it in the theatre (several times) and I don't know what
the difference is.  But I do have both the VHS and LD, and they're the
same. 

>>Also is the release of Brazil on tape different from the LD version?

>Shouldn't be. If you're looking for the UK film version you may be able to
>find it in the form of a Japanese LD, but I'm not sure.

Voyager is working with Gilliam to make the full director's cut of 
_Brazil_ for their Criterion collection.  Don't know when it'll be
out (They're also doing _MP and the Holy Grail_!)

Newsflash - The director's cut of _Blade Runner_ is opening in D.C.
next weekend! 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)

                             Luddites Unite! 
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
From: crichmon@sedona.intel.com (Chris Richmond)
Subject: Re: Best Tape Brands!
Originator: crichmon@sedona
Reply-To: crichmon@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:29:59 GMT


In article <1992Sep15.152646.7689@pegasus.com>, richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) writes:
] ]
] ] I second the recommendation for Maxell HGX-anything. My wife and I received
] ] a box of HGX-Gold as a wedding present a number of eons ago (actually 8
] ] years). Two of these tapes have been in frequent use (one daily for two
] ] years) and still outperform a brand-new Polaroid.

 
] A minor point, but tapes tend to improve after they've been used a
] few times.
 
 
] -- 
] Richard Foulk		richard@pegasus.com

Would someone please define IMPROVE and USE (in this context).  Does
USE mean recording and if so, could someone explain this phenomenon.
At least with audio tape, noise is worse after recording.

As for IMPROVE, does this mean less visual noise?

Thanks, Chris
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Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 16:39:14 MDT
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: martin@jsblan.byu.edu (Martin Murillo)
Subject: ** Kyocera KX-77 Camcorder **
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo,UT.


Does anybody owns or has access to the manuals in english
of the Kyocera KX-77 or KX-80 Camcorder?
I really need a coopy of the manuals.
Please let me know if you know anything about that!!

Thanks

MArtin Murillo
Martin_Murillo@byu.edu
From: daniel@synchrods.UUCP (Daniel Senderowicz)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: costs and equipment
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:33:45 GMT

I was wondering if someone could tell me what is the minimum set
(and costs) required for a low-power television station without
production capabilities. I'm talking about a couple of video
tape machines (e.g. 1", betacam), a satellite antenna,
transmitter, antenna, maybe one camera, etc. It would be great
if the costs can be itemized. Thanks a lot.

Dan. (daniel@synchrods.com)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: Brazil (WS) LD
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 15:36:47 GMT

In article <19928@fritz.filenet.com>, daver@felix.filenet.com (Dave Richards) writes:
> 
> You missed my point.  All that they have done by matting a properly composed
> and protected 1.85 film is to cover up the top and bottom of the picture for
> you.  There is no reason that they couldn't simply transfer the entire frame.
> Then a user that didn't like letterboxing and didn't care about correct as-
> pect ratios could watch it without doing anything, and letterbox-loving,
> aspect ratio purists like us could watch THE SAME SOFTWARE by simply covering
> up the top and bottom of the frame ourselves, either with black masking, or
> with a relatively simple little electronic device.  The benfits would be
> only one version, and no waiting for the letterboxed version to be released.
> 

Actually, I didn't, but I don't agree with you.  Whilst in theory one could
create their own mask, the individual would for the most part be at a loss
as to what aspect ratio to make it, especially considering the problems of
overscanning with TVs (even though I've asjusted my Sony EXR to have very
little overscanning, I can't get rid of all of it and it's hard to tell
exactly how much it is overscanning.)  Basically, if you make the mask
exactly 1.85:1 or whatever, it will not be the correct framing because of
your TVs overscan.  Then, of course, is the fact that there are
so many different ratios that films use, it is hard to tell which one you
should be using.  One hopes that when a disc is matted, they have
researched to find out what the proper ratio is, unfortunatly, this doesn't
always appear to be the case.

Not to mention that it would be a pain in the butt (what exactly are you
using to matte it with?)  Where could one get one of these electronic
devices you refer to?

Steve
From: hans@castlerock.East.Sun.COM (Hans Hrasna)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony Batteries
Date: 15 Sep 1992 19:26:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: hans@castlerock.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: castlerock.east.sun.com


In article 15@compctr.ccs.csus.edu, kenm@compctr.ccs.csus.edu (Ken Montgomery) writes:
>I had my 77HD drop dead on me in only 19 minutes this weekend. The battery
>that came with the recorder lasted for an hour. I only bought the recorder
>and the extra 77HD 2 months ago. The battery that came with the recorder
>(Sony 701) is only 1000ma, the 77HD is 2400ma. I can't believe the
>battery took a 'memory' that quickly! It's only been used 5-6 times and I
>always charged it right after each use. I treated the little battery the

	Aren't you supposed to wait until the battery is completely discharged
before you recharge it? It says that on the back of one of my batteries...
something like "discharge fully before charging" on a big red sticker.
Or is that just certain types of batteries? The one I'm refering to is a pretty
cheap one... but it has been providing about 1 hour a charge for almost a year of
weekly use... maybe I misinterpeted your meaning and you do fully discharge it... 
hmmm the battery I get an hour from is 1500ma... then a 2400ma should give me 1.5
hours shouldn't it?


From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:45:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Panasonic Camcorder PV-22
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.video

> I just purchased a Panasonic Camcorder PV-22. Have spent about 4 hours
> playing with it and stuff. Seems fairly easy to use.
> 
> Filmed a softball game at night and I must say it came out great!
> 
> Any comments good or bad would be appreciated....thanks!

Ummm. Softball's a boring sport for old guys with beer guts. (?)

You're welcome,

			-- Chan
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dpunjabi@nyx.cs.du.edu (DINESH PUNJABI)
Subject: Mail order places for VCRs & reliable ext warranty ( Please help )
Keywords: Mitusubishi HSU-57
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 21:12:00 GMT

I am in the process of buying a Mitsubishi HSU-57 with a 5-year extended
warranty. I would like EMAIL responses for places selling the unit at good
prices + selling RELIABLE extended warranties. 

Your help will be highly appreciated. 

Dinesh
--

Dinesh Punjabi 
dpunjabi@nyx.cs.du.edu                Work: (303)-595-2901
From: ckoch@bbn.com (Carter Koch)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Re: VCR Maintenance Advice Wanted. Head Cleaners Any Good?
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:16:40 GMT
Reply-To: ckoch@BBN.COM (Carter Koch)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <4300146@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> steed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary Steed) writes:
>Is this really true?  I've heard this many times but I haven't heard of
>a good explanation on why it so bad. In REWIND/FAST-FORWARD  mode the motor 
>is running wide open with only the drag from the tape itself for 2 to 3 minutes
>vs. PLAY mode where the motor is running with lottsa drag from the capstan 
>holding back the take-up reel for up to two hours. In most VCR's that I've
>seen there is no contact with the heads during REWIND/FAST-FORWARD, so there's
>no head wear. From this it seems that the REWIND/FAST-FORWARD function would
>be alot easier on the VCR that PLAYing tapes. This is why I haven't bought
>a rewinder. Although one could be handy if you want to start watching the 
>next movie without waiting for the other one to rewind. For me I need that 
>time to go to the bathroom anyway. ;')

    Using a rewinder is not going to noticeably save on any wear to your heads,
or rubber parts (idler, capstan belt, etc).  In older systems the tape
doesn't come in contact with the heads, and the more recent systems using
quick loading keep the tape slack around the video drum when rew. or ffwd.
Rubber idlers and belts will crack over time whether they're used or not.
It's very rare that you're going to burn out a capstan motor (used to drive
idler assy's in most units).  In my shop I can't tell the difference between
a VCR that has an owner using a rewinder and/or a tape cleaner and another
that doesn't.  But I can tell whether the owner smokes or has a dog or cat.
    Rewinders don't have the light sensors that detect the end or beginning
of a tape like a VCR does.  The sensors enable the VCR to stop rewinding
before the tape is jerked and stretched at the end of the spool.  Rewinders
jerk and stretch the tape before halting which is not good.

				Carter
Carter Koch
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Camcorder Recommendations:
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:11:30 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, tmikul@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (thomas.mikulay) writes:
>I am currently looking at buying a HI8 camcorder. I have narrowed it down
>to two. The Sony TR81 and the Sony V801. I would like to know what are
>the advantages of 801 over the TR81 are.

I personally own the TR81.  I am very pleased.

I chose it over the 801 because compactness and lightness were priorities.
The 801 may have a somewhat better image.   It has more exposure controls.
The lens focusses and zooms in the trditional way.  The 81 only has
a two speed power zoom and internal focussing with no distance scale.
Some users have complained about the poor autofocus performance of the
V801.

The V801 records RCTC - rewritable consumer time code - which allows
you to grow into really sophisticated editing with the right gear.
It has a 10x zoom; the 81 has an 8x zoom but is a hair wider at the
wide end.  If you plan to by a Steadicam JR or plan to do a lot of touring
on foot, then the 81 might be a better choice.  Some claim that the
81 is better in low light.
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From: wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VIDEOTECH Digest V92 #792
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:05:03 GMT
Reply-To: wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies

WTS@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU ("WADE T. SMITH") writes:

> re: LD history-
> Don't forget the name of the early 7820 MCA units- DISCOVISION!

Actually that was the name of a lot more than the units themselves --
the company that was formed (I forget the partners) to make both
players and discs was called DiscoVision Associates.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: petec@splat.dell.com (Pete Cruz)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Scan lines
Keywords: PTV
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:32:10 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Co

As I have been shopping for a PVT (Projection TV) I am confused by lines
of resolution. Some manufactures like Hitiach claim 900 and Pioneer 
uses 750. Exactly what the this mean and how does it relate to picture 
quality. As I understand it a LD player will provide up to 400 while
television broadcast is around 258 lines.

Any info is appreceated.

Pete.