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From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Hermosa Beach (L.A.) surf report - 1/21
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:47:08 GMT

The water has cleaned up and the beaches are officially open again!!!  
'First time in quite a while.

I went out off the south side of the Hermosa pier. Fairly nice overhead+  
sets rolling through.  Felt great not having to worry (too much) about  
swallowing the water.  Waves were mushy enough to make take-offs stress  
free and I saw occasional (empty) barrels.  Nothing earth-shattering, I'm  
mostly just psyched about having clean water again!

I went out at P.V. Cove on Monday morning and caught some nice 2-4' surf  
as well.  Water had just a touch of foam on it, so I decided to stay out  
until the beaches opened up and give my immune system a chance to bounce  
back... seems to have worked.

Chris,  Congratulations on the new grommet!

See ya',
Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
From: andy@elviss.eng.sun.com (Andrew Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: any ding repair tips?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:45:33 GMT
Organization: MASTERS OF THE KNOWN UNIVERSE
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In-reply-to: leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov's message of 25 Jan 93 19:47:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.194748.23379@nas.nasa.gov> leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
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   From: leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum)
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   Date: 25 Jan 93 19:47:48 GMT
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   So this leads me in a roundabout way to my question of the day.  Are 
   there any special tips for patching up my board.  I've already gotten 
   some practice from patching my green behemoth but I wasn't too concerned 
   with the quality of the result there.  I don't know if water got in the 
   board but I'm letting it dry for a few days anyway.  There's an ugly
   brown streak where the glass is cracked, is there a way to get back the
   original color?  And how do the pros get their patches to be (a) almost
   invisible, and (b) so smooth?  Any advice (other than to quit surfing) will 
   be gratefully accepted.

   - leo

If I where you I would go to fiberglass Santa Cruz. along with glass,
resin, and foam, they sell a small book on surf board repairs. I can
not remember the name of it off the top of my head, but it is pretty
good. I have used the info several times to fix my board.

Andy

ps. by the way I put a nasty ding in my board on Martin Luther King
Day out at indicators. but once again this ding repair book will come
to my rescue
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: any ding repair tips?
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:35:25 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

....Stuff about repairs deleted......
I just reglassed a fin to my board this winter, my first real repair
After I finished the glassing, I started sanding with progressively finer
sand paper. I went down to wet sanding with 600 grit paper. After that,
I used auto rubbing compound (the red stuff) and a damp rag. To get
a good glossy polished look, I then used polishing compound. The problem
is....with such a good finish, all the small bubbles in the fillet area
were visible........

I used a round file and a grinding stone (in my drill) to grind out
the delaminated glass at the fin base. I made sure to remove all of
the damaged glass.  I didn't use a power sander, just alot of elbow
grease....I kept switching hands when fatigue set in........
   O
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From: georgez@asdi.saic.com ) (Wedgy (aka George Z.)
Subject: Surf and Snow
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Salutations all,
	The surf is flat here in sunny southern California, San Diego to be
specific.  BUT the weather IS BEAUTIFUL.  It's about 70 degrees and no clouds.
I haven't heard of any storms around, but I haven't been checking lately
either.  I've had my nose to the computer grindstone.

Well, I'm going to try snowboarding this weekend.  I talked to a guy at a ski
shop and he gave me a few good pointers on how to keep from getting too 
stressed if I don't pick it up quickly.  Thought I'd just pass them on since
they sounded good.  These are also based on the fact that I do know how to
ski already.

		1) Ski for 2/3 of the first day.  Then rent a snowboard for the
		   last couple/few hours of the day.  This way you get a feel
		   for the board.

		2) Snowboard for the 2nd day.  You should be getting the hang
		   of it sometime after lunch probably.

		3) Now choose between skiing or snowboarding.

Hope this helps anyone else that might be thinking of trying it.  On another
note, I'm thinking about getting a new board.  I want a 6'8" thruster squash
tail with a little extra rocker in the front.  Anybody got any suggestions on
good off the rack boards for a decent to good price here in San Diego?  All
comments gratefully appreciated!

				Pray for surf

				Thanks all,

				Wedgy
From: andy@elviss.eng.sun.com (Andrew Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: any ding repair tips?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:53:07 GMT
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In-reply-to: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com's message of 25 Jan 1993 22:23:17 GMT

In article <1k1p8lINN33e@fido.asd.sgi.com> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
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   From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
   Newsgroups: alt.surfing
   Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:23:17 GMT
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   In article <1k1lr9INN7aa@overload.lbl.gov>, njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov writes:
   > In article <1993Jan25.194748.23379@nas.nasa.gov> leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
   > >

   > [..deleted..]
   > My board looks great even though it was badly smashed. 
   > People look at it and say "YOU did that?" See, even girls can do it!

      Hmm. my patches always look kind of like a kindergartener did it.
      A *girl* kindergartener, :-).

      Do you use a power sander? somebody told me those orbital sanders
      are the trick.
   > 
   > Nancy

   john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248

the trick is to get some sort of grinder. I have a drumel. It has a
hand held styles. there are all kinds of cutting and grinding bits for
it. I also have a transformer so that I can control the rpm (300 -
5000). Another got have for the drumel is a flexible shaft extension.
(so you do not have to hold the entire unit in your hand) By the way
this thing is great for home dentistry. I do all my own fillings now! 

Another good thing to have is a small hand held sander

Andy
From: rich.hart@yob.sccsi.com (Rich Hart) 
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: WHERE'S THE SURFERS?
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: rich.hart@yob.sccsi.com (Rich Hart) 

>> Where did all the surfers go?

I'm still here.  Not much for surf here in the gulf.  The winter
weather is not favorable for wave generation.

Wish I were back home.  Haliewa  would be pumping.

During the summer months here mostly 1-2 footers
         
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From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Board Snappage!
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:00:56 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, leif@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Leif Eric Johnson) writes:
>Hey Bra,
>    So the burning question now:  What kind of really stong glue do you use
>that wont melt the foam?  You guys have about got me convinced to snap this

I would use the laminating resin as your glue.  I would also sand a
large area of the deck on either side of the breakage down almost to
the foam. This will make your patch about 6 inches wide and feather
the layers out towards the edges of the patch.  This type of patch is
known as a scarf joint.   This method is commonly used in repairs of
composite structures.   I would also recommend using the lightest
weight cloth you can find and building up multiple layers vs. 1-2 layers
of heavier cloth. The extra layers of cloth will help to arrest any
future cracks.  By using many thin layers, you can get more glass for
the same thickness. The heavier cloth tends to hold more resin per thickness
than the thinner stuff.  I would also, if possible, put some off axis
(turn the cloth 45 degrees) layers on at the rails this also will prevent
crack growth. This tends to waste glass, as you need to cut 45 degree
strips for this. I have used remnants from stuff built at work so glass
costs haven't been a problem for me.

On another note, I used some surgical gloves (from my mom, she's a nurse)
during my last patch job. They worked great, I could pick up the glass
and place it where I wanted without worrying about getting resin on
my skin (and removing it with acetone!!!) When done, I just peeled them
off inside out and kept the toxic slime inside.

   O
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From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: wednesday swell ok.
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:46:15 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com

I had some fun at sewers on wednesday afternoon. A few overhead sets came 
in. Not a lot, and the sets weren't of regular multiples or anything.

I don't think this latest swell will be as big as hoped.

Did have one 'shallow' barrel. Good take off and bottom turn followed by
pulling in like you are supposed to. But I hedged a little and didn't get
as deep as I could. Did have that epiphany where you realize how it is
supposed to work. I am a tube neophyte.

Another time I tried to make a barrel out of a section. The lip flattened
me. Obviously that is not the right way to do it.

And while I'm talking about eating it, had other good wipe-out coming down 
off the lip and pearled. I think I would've made it on the smaller board.

Meant to go this morning, but my watch died and its alarm with it.

later peoples.

john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
                   M/S 7U-553 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division
                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: any ding repair tips?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:24:57 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
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In article <1993Jan25.194748.23379@nas.nasa.gov> leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
>
>So this leads me in a roundabout way to my question of the day.  Are 
>there any special tips for patching up my board.  I've already gotten 
>some practice from patching my green behemoth but I wasn't too concerned 
>with the quality of the result there.  

I got the Destination Surf ding repair kit for Christmas, right after
I got my tail smashed Christmas morning. Most shops have it. 
My board looks great even though it was badly smashed. 
People look at it and say "YOU did that?" See, even girls can do it!

If there's a trick, I guess its keep doing it until it looks right. If
you don't patch it well, it'll sand down again. It took me three tries
to get it professional looking. The last go round I used more cloth and
extra fiber on the edges. The brown streak should disappear when you
sand it down. Its easier if your board doesn't have a color
coat and better still if you've had a lot of practice fixing old
beater boards (that's what they're good for).

On the surfing ability subject> Plenty surfers fall off the front B-)
At least you caught the wave...

Nancy
High and Dry for 4 mo daze
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: sewers and such
From: squier@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Richard Squier)
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:40:30 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University, Washington DC

I don't know if any of you remember, but
sewer peak in Santa Cruz got it's name from
the sewage outlet pipe that used to empty
right at the lineup.  There was this constant
roiling boil of warm brown water that everybody
used to ignore (at least, everybody sitting
near me in the lineup).  In the summertime you
never needed a wetsuit at sewers!  I never got
sick there, but later, perhaps at Ocean beach
or Halfmoon Bay, I got some kind of weird intestinal
infection.  It's finally gone now, but it took a
long time.  I'm a lot more cautious now about winter
storm runoff.
	Rich
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Sunny, offshore, and pumping. (No kidding!)
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:07:32 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com

Just like the subject says. Afternoon, friday the 22nd. Sunny, offshore and
4 foot backs, 1.5 surfer-size, maybe a few bigger peaks.
Not a windswell. A groundswell. I saw huey and duey the sea otters.
I even had to wear sunglasses on the drive home. Kind of hard to
believe, eh? But true.

Last time, it was so weak, my thin, narrow 6'6 was a pain to paddle,
so this time I brought my 6'9'' rounded pin, which is a mini-gun for me.
What a joy. Easy take-offs, and it's still narrow enough that I can
turn it easily. I often got out in front too far which is a bad habit
of mine, but also got a few good S turns out of it. 

No broken boards, hard wipeouts, collisions, 
getting caught inside or anything, just lots of good waves.

I surfed for three hours, which was enough to make my triceps cramp.

Then I dropped by the surf shop and collected $$$ for the old boards
I had on consignment. Who says good things don't happen?
                
john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
                   M/S 7U-553 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division
                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039
From: jtw@duke.cs.duke.edu (James Thomas Wilkes)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfers for Envir. Action
Summary: Problems for Surfrider Foundation
Keywords: money, greed, surfrider foundation
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:28:15 GMT
Followup-To: alt.surfing
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <30002@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>Does anyone have an address or phone # for SURFERS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
>ACTION?  I am currently a member of the Surfrider Foundation and have
>not been to happy with them. I sent them my membership money, and haven't
>heard much since. I  received one newsletter months ago but since then
>nada.

For anyone in the Surfrider foundation (or anyone else who's 
interested), there is an article in this month's Surfer magazine 
about some internal strife at the Surfrider Foundation following 
their winning of a big settlement with some pulp mill.  

It seems that the lawyer that brought the case to the attention of 
the Foundation and did much of the work on the case, wanted more 
payment than his contract called for.  The board of the Surfrider 
Foundation split over what to do about it (one group backed the lawyer
and one group wanted to stick with the contract).  See the article for
more details.

However, the good news is that it seems the problems at the board level
will have little affect on the grass roots volunteer groups so the 
Foundation will probably survive.


James Wilkes
jtw@cs.appstate.edu  (In the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina,
		      just an 8 hour drive from Cape Hatteras)
From: s_sasso@vax2.concordia.ca (SASSO, STEVEN)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: S. Cali swell
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:31:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Hello! my name is Steve Sasso, I'm a surfer from Montreal Quebec, 
Canada. During the fall and spring I surf in Maine, but in the summer I 
usually get a chance to surf in orange county. I spent a summer in
Laguna beach a few years ago and I really miss the place. I'm curious to know 
what the surf has been like lately with all the flooding and fucked up 
weather that you've been having. I heard a rumor of a recent 9 meter swell,
that's over 27 feet! So is it true? If so,how was Brooks street, Thalia,
Garbage Reef,Sleepy Hollow etc...? Let me know.
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surfer's Journal
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:34:16 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov

I just got a subscription to the Surfer's Journal
after checking a copy in the surf shop. 
This is not just another surf mag, its more like a bible.
It's published by Steve Pezman (formerly of SURFER)

I like Surfer and Surfing, but this has gone BEYOND.
One article just had pages of empty classic breaks. No captions,
just the name of the spot. 
Lots of articles on surf history, surf personalities, surf ART
which is rarely printed. 

They are on issue #4 now (quarterly) so I bought all the back issues.
Some of my favorite articles: Tom Morey on evolution of technology and
ATTITUDE *he's got it*. Rick Griffin's work by John Severson. Richard
Crotty's surf scribbles and Sandow Birk's heroic surf paintings.
Brock and Noll meet for the first time and chat about ADRENILIN
experiences. A recurring article: just a portfolio of
the best photographers' finest stuff. 

There is an ad or two on the inside cover and in the back and
not another ad throughout the issue. If you like surf books,
pictures, history, etc., don't miss it. Its expensive ($35/yr)
but you get what you pay for. 

SURFER's JOURNAL
P.O. 4006
San Clemente, CA 92674-9903

Subscription Only/ or at better surf shops.  

Nancy
From: erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: WHERE'S THE SURFERS?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) 

Hey you all,
  Where did all the surfers go?  I've been waiting to see some
postings/messages here, but I haven't seen any!  If you're a
surfer/bodyboarder/skimboarder or anything, then please respond!



                                 I am not stoked!
                                  Erich.

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From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: Surfers for Envir. Action
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:10:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <30002@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>Does anyone have an address or phone # for SURFERS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
>ACTION?  I am currently a member of the Surfrider Foundation and have
>not been to happy with them. I sent them my membership money, and haven't
>heard much since. I  received one newsletter months ago but since then
>nada.
>
Ah yes, very interesting that you mention the Surfrider Foundation.

There is a very interesting article in the new SURFER or SURFING (not sure
which one off hand) about some problems with this particular organizations.
I've only had a chance to skim over it, but it don't sound like all peaches
and cream.



John H. Lake
From: andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: How's Cocoa Beach these days?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:03:26 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
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In article <1993Jan27.141125.2306@bmerh85.bnr.ca> whitwam@bnr.ca writes:
>In article <1k4esuINNs95@morrow.stanford.edu>, andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest) writes:
>|> Looked more like the Ron Jon t-shirt shop to me.  The place was about a
>|> block from my hotel and is the size of a decent size department store.
>|> But all the boards were hanging from the ceiling.  Nice collection but
>|> I didn't get the impression they sold very many of them.  At least not
>|> compared to the many t-shirts.  On the other hand we did rent two boogie
>|> boards from them.
>|>
>
>Your not critizing Ron Jon's are you?  I consider it my Mecca. :-)
I'll give them credit for being open 24 hours a day and did enjoy looking
at all their boards hanging from the ceiling.

>When I was in Cocoa Beach last year, the rental huts I checked out
>only had plastic surfboards, but Ron Jon's had a small selection of 
>fiberglass boards for rent.  Not much of a selection, but I was able
>to rent a board and a wet-suit for about $50 for the week.  (Is that
>a good price?)  
Ron Jon's is no longer renting fiberglass boards.  Their weekly price
is about $40 a week for a board, $40 a week for a wetsuit, ....
basically $40 for each item.  $10 a day if you aren't there that long.

>in learning how to surf?  We would have to rent surf boards (or buy some used
>ones) and lessons would be helpful.  I was thinking of South Carolina, but I

Another option around Cocoa Beach is buying boards at one of the many
pawnshops.  There was one across the street from Ron Jons that had a
decent selection and reasonable prices.  Looked like there were a lot of
surfers running low on bucks and pawning their boards.  Unfortunately
nothing that struck me as just what I wanted to cart around for the rest
of the vacation and back to California.

Andy
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