From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: Kahane's philosophy
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:19:09 GMT

In article <2512@itexjct.jct.ac.il> warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein) writes:

# In <1993Jan4.184839.28840@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
 
# me: I seriously believe that a person (irregardless of that person's
# me: religion or so on) who encourages crimes bears some moral
# me: responsibility (without diminishing that of the actual perpetrator) if
# me: those crimes are in fact committed by someone who is influenced by the
# me: first person.  If this is antisemitism, I am proud to be an
# me: antisemite.
 
# dm: 	That is not anti semitism, but it is stupidity.  However, since
# dm: spreading lies is a sin, and since you have spread lies and the like
# dm: about Kach and members of the Kahane family, does that mean you bear
# dm: responsibility when others pass on these same lies?
 
# By my logic, had I spread lies, I would in fact bear responsibility
# for both originating them as well as for their continued propagation.

	You are only responsible for the lies you told.  If someone else
tells a lie, thy are responsible.  You do not share respopnsibility for
their continued propagation unless you did something like tell your
child to repeat it.  The argument that had you not told the lie the
other person also would not have is not valid since they would have
told another lie.

# By yours, I am just emotionally upset and am blameless, and it would
# be stupidity for you to impute any blame to me.

	By my logic you are not emtionally upset and you are only
blameless for the actions of others, but not for yourself.

# As I do not concede that I have spread any lies, the above has no
# implications.

	Even though your premise is false it does have implications since
they are lies.

# If you wish to maintain otherwise, you will have to
# present quotes of mine, and evidence both that they are untrue and
# that I was aware of their untruth at the time that I posted them.

	I can no longer present what you request but I do not need to.  I
responded to your articles and pointed out what was false.  Since you
responded to my responses, you knew they were untrue and were aware of
their untruth at the time.

# dm: 	By the way, how would you like it if I included the last part of
# dm: your last sentence in a .sigand referenced it to you and this
# dm: article??  I would not do it, but it would be on a par with some of
# dm: what you have written about Kach and members of the Kahane family.
 
# You have my permission to quote my entire final sentence.  I stand
# proudly behind it.

	I was not talking about the entire final sentence.  Only the last
part of the final sentence.

# I also stand behind my comments about the late Rabbi, the political

	Either you have a short memory, or you are lying since I pointed
out the falsities behind your comments.
--
	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
at math and those that are not.

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