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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:39:43 -0400 
From: "David M. Bartlett" <db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Wanted:  Kirk Mitchell books

I am looking for a trilogy (and by now possibly more) by an author named
Kirk Mitchell.  The books (I have no titles at the moment) are science
fiction, and the storyline concerns an alternate history where the Roman
Empire never fell, but survived until the present.  If you know where I
can order these books, or if you have them and are interested in
selling, please contact me.
 
Dave B.
aka Sheik Bahba rum Raysen


Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
From: awkerr@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Alan Kerr)
Subject: Re: Tight beams (was Re: Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:26:30 GMT

In article <3951@news.duke.edu> ndd@bal1 (Ned Danieley) writes:
>dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
>: 
>: Actually, truckers use a crude form of this with their CB's.  Most of
>: them have two antennas mounted on the side mirrors -- as far apart as
>: they can get them.  This arrangment concentrates the signal forewards
>: and backwards -- that is, along the highway.  Unfortunately, the trucks
>: are not quite wide enough to get the optimum effect.  From what I
>: remember, the ideal spacing is about a meter or two wider than the
>: trucks.
>: 
>: ---
>: Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
>
>the truckers actually get pretty good results, I think. CB is in the
>11 meter band, so the required spacing is 2.75m, or just over 9 feet.
>what was really funny was all the cars that used to have the twin
>antennas mounted on their trunks!

Actually, this DOES work.  Not well, but it does.  Since you can't get
the antennas to the optimum separation, they should be as far back on
the car as possible.  This lets the 'ground plane' effect of the car's
metal body magnify the forward lobe of the field.

-- 
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National Radio Astronomy Observatory       awkerr@nrao.bitnet
Socorro, NM, USA                           uunet!nrao.edu!awkerr
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
From: u906610@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Eric The Viking)
Subject: Bored Of ... Thanks
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:46:00 GMT


Greets again,

Thanks to all those who replied to my request for info about Bored Of The Rings

and The Boggit.

I have all the info I need and also a couple of copies on the way, (hopefully).

If I missed someone in my replies then I apologise, but I was fairly "buried"

under mail!  :)


		Thanks again to all who answered...

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	Eric Brumby
	Student @ Uni Of Tasmania
	u906610@131.217.10.2
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From: adrian@robots.ox.ac.uk (Adrian Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Eating our other world friends & enemies
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:24:41 GMT
	<+flmw0a.xtifr@netcom.com>
	<1992Jul29.065223.28918@oracle.us.oracle.com>
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Oxford University
In-reply-to: mfriedma@uucp's message of 29 Jul 92 06:52:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.065223.28918@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
   Might be a bit easier if we had a definition of intelligence.  I don't
   have a good one, but at least its clear - you're intelligent if you
   conciously attempt to modify your environment when it threatens you.
   ^^^^^^^^^^
   Dolphins clearly do not.

Unfortunately, your clear definition of intelligence includes that
great un-measurable, consciousness.  If you can come up with a clear
definition of `conciously' (sic) then I'll accept your definition of
intelligence as clear.

- Adrian

Warning: the author of the above message is happy, well adjusted, and
attempting to be cynical.  He is not, nor has he ever been, an
anthropomorphic animal, though he has, on occasion, been a small dog
or penguin.  He does not use smilies.  Thank you for your cooperation.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
From: hal@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Hal Wadleigh)
Subject: Re: Even Money
Followup-To: hal@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Hal Wadleigh)
Summary: Hidden functionality
Keywords: retail pricing functionality
Reply-To: hal@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Hal Wadleigh)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:12:16 GMT
Expires: 8/23/92

Most large retail outlets use the "odd" numbers in a functional way.  Example:
9 = Normal price
8 = Advertized special
7 = Unadvertized special
6 = Floor sample reduced price
5 = Non-returnable closeout price
The book you normally buy for $4.99 might go on a special sale for $3.48 if
there's an ad, or for $3.47 if it's just marked down on the shelves.  If you
try to return a VCR that you bought for $149.95, the receipt shows that you
made the purchase on a non-refundable basis.
From: janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM (Janice Gelb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Address:  A Change of Hobbit?
Date: 23 Jul 1992 17:30:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin

In article 00iUxQ1QXpi@andrew.cmu.edu, "David M. Bartlett" <db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>
>Also, does anyone know if "A Change of Hobbit"--a great book store in
>California that I did a lot of business with in the 1970's--and if so,
>have the address and/or telephone number of the establishment?
>

"A Change of Hobbit" bookstore in southern California is closed.  There 
is a great bookstore in NORTHERN California (Berkeley, to be exact) called 
"Another Change of Hobbit," though.


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.humor,alt.folklore.urban,alt.religion.kibology,rec.arts.books,talk.religion.misc
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Jehovah's Witnesses' doctrine (was Re: Agnostics and Athiests)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:22:19 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Followup-To: talk.religion.misc

[ Please direct followups appropriately; I took a best guess,
  but I don't get talk.religion.misc, so E-Mail if you like ]

According to ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Omar Smith):
>"According to your religion, only a Jehovah's witness can be saved"
>"Yes, that is our teaching".
>"And according to the Bible, only 144,000 people are to be saved"
>"Yes, this is also according to our teachings".

Actually, it isn't.  144,000 will have the reward of life in heaven.
Those rewarded with earthly life have no fixed number.  Thus Witness
doctrine is consistent with human free will.

>"But, there are 2,000,000 Jehovah's witnesses."

There are more than 4,000,000 now.
From: prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:15:09 GMT
Reply-To: prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

>Article XXXXX of rec.humor:
>From:	Assorted posters who don't use their editors enough!
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.humor,alt.religion.kibology,
> alt.blah.blah, alt.etc.
>Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests


	YO! FELLOW NET.NIKS!  How's about you all start editing that
`newsgroups' line?  I really don't care to hear a long debate quibbling
over denotations of "agnostic" and "atheist".  (Hint:  edit out group
name "rec.humor", insert "alt.atheism")  Thanks a bunch.
	<somebody send this on to alt.religion.kibology --- this machine
won't post to the alt.* groups>
					dylyn
BTW, for the record, I'm a Buddhist atheist.  So there.
_____________________________________________________________________
"One -- you lock the target,	   Two -- you bait the line,
   Three-- you slowly spread the net,     and Four -- you catch the man"
			<<Front242, 'Headhunter'>>
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From: wiml@milton.u.washington.edu (William Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Even Money
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:28:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <14gf82INNmf2@agate.berkeley.edu> goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
>	To make up for the hardbacks, many paperbacks now have prices 
>such as $4.99. Yuck.

  It doesn't really matter, does it, since the sales tax always pushes
it up to some funny combination anyway. I wish stores would either
include sales tax in the marked price or mark things so they come out
an even dollar (or fraction). Oh well.


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From: norbeck@castor.cs.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.movies
Subject: High Explosives Quote Results=Frustration--Help!
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:47:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.



Hi again...About a week ago I posted, trying to find the source of a 
quote I'd like to use.  Since then I have been bombarded with mail,
but, sadly, I've seen no fewer than FIVE sources for it, and many
of the people who have answered seem quite certain that theirs is 
the right one.  This presents just a *slight* problem...

I know it's possible that it could have been used more than once,
but in five different things?  This seems a little odd to me.  
Anyway, in case this might strike someone as being familiar, here
is the quote again:

	"There are very few personal problems that can't be solved 
	with a suitable application of high explosives."

The contestants for the origin of the quote are as follows:

Apocalypse Now
Uncommon Valor
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Heathers
A few authors (no specific books as far as I can recall) such as 
	Martin Amis


Could anyone tell me, beyond the shadow of a doubt, where this quote
is from?  Choice is wonderful, but this is a little ridiculous..

Thanks..

Nancy

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|Nancy Norbeck       | "I know that look."  "What look?"  "The look that says |
|....................|  you're going to be impetuous, vengeful, irresponsible,|
|norbeck@bucknell.edu|  and *stupid*!" --Lady Jane and Lovejoy, "Death and    |
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.humor,talk.politics.misc
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 05:33:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In <1992Jul27.073301.22047@athena.mit.edu> sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman)
quotes my .sig:

>>Chris Waters    | the insane don't | NOBODY for President!
>>xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Because Nobody's perfect!!

>NOBODY for President!
>Because Nobody gives a damn about this country!

Yes, yes, yes, and:

Nobody has all the answers.
Nobody can make us all happy.
Nobody can bring about world peace.
Nobody fulfills all his promises.
Nobody is in politics *just* for the good of the country, without any
  desire or need for personal gain or glory. 
Nobody always tells the truth. 
Nobody understands *all* the issues. 
Nobody will give each and every one of you $50,000 if you elect him.

etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Oh, and of course:

Nobody doesn't inhale.

Followups to talk.politics.misc  :-)
-- 
Chris Waters    | the insane don't | NOBODY for President!
xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Because Nobody's perfect!!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
From: jsc@athena.mit.edu (Jin S. Choi)
Subject: Xenocide
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:05:38 GMT


I just finished reading this book, and came away feeling it ended rather
abruptly. I mean, okay, after some 500 pages it wasn't like I thought it
should go on for too much longer, but after all that buildup, things
kind of ended up pretty quickly there. Anyway, there were a lot of loose
ends left hanging; at least, I felt the resolution wasn't as explicit as
I would have liked. Does anyone know if Card is planning to write
another book in this series, or if it was meant to be a trilogy?

And with all his interest in computers and nets, does anyone know if
he's on the Internet somewhere? 


--
Jin Choi
jsc@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
From: tedk@jpl.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ted Ko)
Subject: Hello?  Where Am I?
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:31:17 GMT

I seem to have stumbled into the wrong newsgroup.  Could someone please
direct me to rec.arts.sf.misc ?

I think I mistakenly wandered into some random religious newsgroup....

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E-Mail: ted@athena.mit.edu
	tedk@ctt.bellcore.com
From: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Eating our other world friends & enemies
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:30:26 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Jul27.035713.24540@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>
>I would argue that we have conclusive evidence that dolphins are not
>intelligent.  They have not made a significant attempt to communicate
>with us despite the large numbers of them that we kill via things like
>tuna fishing.

Humans have made no significant attempt to communicate with bacteria,
despite the large numbers of humans that bacteria kill via a variety
of diseases.  What does that say about human intelligence?

:-)

-- 
 "Keyboard?  How quaint!" - M. Scott

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From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Who is the Bad Guy in E.T.?
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:15:18 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


> In article <BD.92Jul23131956@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
> >
> >is to ask audiences who the bad guy in E.T. was.
> >
> >Who are the bad guys?

Hm.  Maybe the Alien itself?  He did manage to cause a lot of trouble for
lots of innocent, non-alien aware earth-type beings :).  

E.T. also ran >away< from his ship.  (It, has however, been a *long* time
since I've watched it.)  Doesn't seem like the reaction of an intelligent
being.  (" Whoops!  The last train out of town is leaving.  Maybe I'll run
away from it, and some nice person here will drive me to outer mongolia!" )

anyway, my $0.02.

-steve


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From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Wizards
Date: 23 Jul 1992 04:44:51 -0500
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  I saw the "Wizards" when it first came out and I was not happy with the
animation or the story. It was possable to have done much better even
fifteen years ago, better animation was possable twenty years ago.
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From: cdb@waikato.ac.nz (Craig D. Beere)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens as xenoterraformers?
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:13:13 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul24.210837.20596@ncsu.edu>, 
 melody@grad02.math.ncsu.edu (Patrick Melody) writes:
> 
> There has been speculation that the aliens are bioengineered weapons.
> It occured to me that they could be "terraforming" machines for the
> elephant-like pilot's race seen in the first movie.  This could explain
> the huge cargo hold of eggs.  Other races might not care about indigenous
> life on other worlds, but instead just "erase" the ecosystem of any world
> they wanted and replace it with their own.  The inside of the big alien
> ship in the first movie was very similiar to the inside of the alien hive
> in the second movie.  If you dropped a load of eggs into an ecosystem, the
> resulting aliens could wipe it out if they encountered no intelligent resist-
> ance.  They could they "hive over" and otherwise transform the planet into
> the kind of world the elephant people wanted.  The aliens are well equipped 
> to fight and defend themselves, and naturally destroy other life to perpetuate
> their own species.  (Though I suppose any species does this as well)  Also, the
> aliens seem to deal well with very harsh environments, something terraformers
> would need to do.  Any other thoughts on this?
> 
> patrick melody@math.ncsu.edu

In the Aliens vs Predators comic series it is said that the Aliens are a race
that are used by the Predators. 

The Predators seed a planet with Aliens, wait a few weeks, then move in and
hunt the things for sport!

This is also aluded to in the movie Predator II where one of the items in the
trophy section of the Predator spaceship is an Alien skull.

I have however found no info anywhere as to whether the Predators created the
Aliens or simply found and used them.

It does seem strange that such a natural predator as the Alien (can feed of
almost anything - plastic, metal, flesh, can survive in all sorts of areas,
acid for breath, etc) can evolve naturally.  It is also strange that a race
that requires other races to breed (the facehuggers need a host) can evolve
naturally.  It seems that this latter point is a good population control
measure...

{*******************************************************************************
** Craig D. Beere  (a.k.a. ++Byron)
** University of Waikato, New Zealand
** CDB@waikato.ac.nz
*}
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From: umlepine@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Bryan Lepine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Alien 3
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:10:43 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <5603@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:

>From article <1992Jul22.203323.29947@u.washington.edu>, by mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey):
>> 	and size of the alien remains constant.  Who knows, an alien
>> 	mating with a bunny

>This way we should get the perfect weapon against the attack of the
>killer carrots.

You have to admit though, it would make the most exciting energizer bunny
commercial yet !
-- 
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 cannot be fooled."	 -Richard Feynman       ============================
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: *Another* mysterious marine in Aliens
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:52:18 GMT
	<1992Jul21.205249.23315@sura.net>
Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
In-reply-to: wbarnes@sura.net's message of 21 Jul 92 20:52:49 GMT
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>>>>> On 21 Jul 92 20:52:49 GMT, wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) said:

BB> This is an incredibly minor nitpick, but it's getting on my nerves...

Awright, people, you're gonna make me watch Aliens again, eh? You don't
have to twist my leg, now; I'll gladly do it :-).

--Rat

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From: WFL4468@tntech.BITNET (PALE BLUE SCOTTISH PERSON)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Lovecraft (was Re: Some Horror/Fantasy Flicks)
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:33:00 GMT

Someone had asked about the movie "Cthulhu Mansion."  Predictably, it has very
little to do with Lovecraft, save the usual liberal scattering of words like
"Cthulhu" and Necronomicon".  The acting is not even second-rate.  I suppose
they can get away with "In the style of HPL" because it vaguely was, but it was
a cheesy, superficial low-end suspense/gore flick with little redeeming value.

There was a movie on HBO (I think) called "Cast a Deadly Spell", which was
entertaining.  While certainly not true to the Lovecraftian works or genre, it
was a good movie.  In comparison to the rest of the Lovecraft adaptations, I
suppose you would call it great.

I did a research paper on HPL a few months ago; I seem to remember someone
digging up a quote from him saying, in essence, that he wouldn't like to see
his work adapted to the screen (of course, it was nothing as blatant as "I
don't want them to make a movie of my stories"; it was more of a philosophical
objection to changing medias and losing meaning.)  I want to think it was
something Fritz Leiber or Jack Chaulker wrote, but I can't be sure.

Bill Langston
wfl4468@tntech
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