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From: burger@sphinx.ece.wisc.edu (Dick Burger)
Subject: Re: All you Packer fans...
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison; Electrical & Computer Engineering
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:36:57 CST

In article <BzGMFn.3yw@encore.com> dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd) writes:
>Hey,
>
>	I know that this question has been posted here about a dozen times,
>but I never saw an answer, and I'm running out of time!
>
>	I need to know if Workman was activated by the Packers.  And
>if he was activated, are they planning on starting him the Sunday?  If
>not, who?  Thompson?
>
>	Any info would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.  I am in my Fantasy Bowl
>this weekend, and I need to know who to start.  I've checked all the local
>papers, and I haven't seen anything!
>
>Thanks!
>
>-Don Todd
>
>

    Holmgren has been hedging on this, but it sounds like Workman won't be 
activated and Thompson will start.  Holmgren said it depends on the health of
the other two running backs, and since they (Bennet & Wilson) are practicing,
Workman won't be activated.
    Ominously, Johnny Holland is seeing a specialist in California about a
neck injury.  
    The papers also suggested that tackle Tootie Robbins will play with his
recently separated shoulder.  I'd almost rather see the big guy rest up 
for the showdown with the vikings.
    I think that Thompson is the best running back of the group, so I'm
glad to see the pack save their IR free move.      
 
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #16
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:06:41 GMT

** Results for the past weeks will be posted after week 16.  -drw **

Week 16
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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Why do the 49ers get to play by different rules???!!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:24:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Dec14.042413.1386
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman

In article <1992Dec13.224936.24890@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.201510.26638@serval.net.wsu.edu> jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>
>>It is now early 2nd half in the 49ers-Vikes game and I'm about to rip the TV
>>set from the wall.  First, we need a QB!  Is there any chance that we'll
>>be able to draft a decent one?  We do get draft picks this year, right?
>>Second, I haven't really paid much attention to all of the complaints about
>>the favoritism shown to the 49ers by the officials, but this is unbelievable!
>>[additional ranting deleted...]
>
>Chill out, dude.  Blaming the refs is such a weenie thing to do.

I like the way you conveniently left out my very next sentence in the above
paragraph... the one where I specifically stated that I was not blaming the
loss on the calls, but that I was just *sick* of the calls (and I still am...
I was venting a little frustration).  Then after deleting it, you accuse me
of blaming the refs... well, I guess I am blaming the refs... blaming them
for being pathetic, but not for the loss as you imply.

Jim
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:10:10 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills D Looks Good *or*...
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:48:08 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Dec21.024831.12206@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>The real question is:  which Bills team is for real?  The one who out-
>gunned the Niners but showed no defense whatsoever in September, or 
>the one that squelched a up-and-coming Aints offense today but couldn't
>do much at all offensively?  The defense and special teams should get
>a lot of the credit for the 20 points that Buffalo scored.

No, Thurman Thomas should get most of the credit for the Bills 20 points.
He scored two touchdowns, giving him 60% of the total score. Simple math,
really. 
>
>-- 
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From: perez@seismo.CSS.GOV (Ricardo L. Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wilbur Marshall
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:09:08 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <b8zS03Y=c3HS00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
> I will say this in his defense (because he's 
> from Florida) he has never hit anybody in such a way as to injure. No legs, 
> knees or anything like that. It's usually just a blast to the torso area. Waters
> built his reputation because he has gone after guys legs.... 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ronnie
> -------------------------------------------------------------

This is coming from a Skins fan, but I have to admit that
Wilbur will hit you as hard as he can, in any way he can,
above the waist. That also means he could knock your head off.
But, I haven't seen him hit someone below the waist in a way
to maim.  I agree with Ronnie about Waters. He'll get you
below the waist, and I've personally seen it a few times.

Rick P.
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:30:11 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Skins vs Boyz
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:35:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Saying that Aikman is a class below Jeff Kemo because Kemp was able to
drive down the field and score the winning FG in the season finale last
year (while Aikman wasn't this year) doesn't wash.

In that season finale, the Skins had absolutely NOTHING to lose... they
had already lost a game to the Boyz earlier that year so the prospects of
an undefeated seson were gone.  They had the NFC East title AND home field
advantage... the only thing Joe Gibbs wanted from that game was that none
of his players got hurt. Did any of the starters even play in the second
half?? Believe me that drive by Kemp was a gimme... last weekend was a
totally different case.


satish nair
bitter & twisted giants fan
From: harper@pembvax1.pembroke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:15:18 EDT
Organization: Pembroke State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: pembvax1.pembroke.edu

In article <1992Dec14.051738.6073@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma) writes:
> In article <13DEC199223525873@hades.stsci.edu> merrill@hades.stsci.edu (Clark) writes:
>>I have a few points I would like to make about the AIKMAN fumble for a
> 
> Okay, I am an un-biased Vikings fan who could really care less who
> won the game, and this is what I saw..
> 
> Aikman pumped, felt pressure, and brought the ball back and had it
> knocked out.  I didn't think it was even questionable.  The ball
> was fumbled.  Then Aikman went after it, knowing he had fumbled,
> and Emmitt picked it up, but then was about to be tackled and it
> looked to me that he was at the last second trying to avoid a safety
> (did anyone else think this was the case?) and he purposely tried
> to fumble the ball out of the end zone, to take the chance that a
> Cowboy could come up with it...   That is the way I saw it...

I agree with you totally.  Yes, I am a Redskin's fan and will also admit that
Dallas out played Washington until the last part of the 3rd quarter and the 4th
quarter.   I would have much rather seen this as a saftey and Washington get a
chance to win it on offense.  But, it look to be a fumble on Aikman's part and
Smith tossed the ball forward hoping for a miracle. (For the ball to get out of
the end zone.) 

Well, maybe Dallas and Washington will meet again in January and we can relive
all this fun again.  8-)

>                    
> 		Just adding another perspective,
> 
> 				Eric Sybesma
> 
> 
> -- 
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Harbaugh back to throw, screen to Anderson, and it's PICKED off by
>  Todd Scott at the 30..25..20..10.  TOUCHDOWN VIKINGS!!!"
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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers have the 'Ladies of Charity'
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:33:14 GMT

In article <BzFFM5.HEn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mab50312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark A. Blickhan) writes:
> Browsing through this week's NFL statistics on clarinews, I noticed
> that the Niners achieved a feat last achieved by the '82 Chargers.
> 
> Off Passing yards:  1st
> Def Passing yards:  28th


I wouldn't put too much importance to total yds gained against SF thro the 
air. Its the number of yds per pass that matters. The SF run defense is pretty
good, and this has forced opponents to throw 490 times against them, so the
yds/pass is not as bad as the #28 ranking shows.

Another point is that when a team throws a lot, it tends to score quickly 
and this gives opponents more plays and hence more yds. If a team like SF
scores a lot and quickly, the opponent is usually well behind and has to 
throw a lot to catch up. 

The #28 ranking doesn't account for all these intangibles.

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From: cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA)
Subject: Re: all SB winner
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:24:15 GMT

In article <8058@news.duke.edu> whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.204918.10643@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec15.164850.15221@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes:
>>
>>>     Might mean that winning breeds winning attitudes for the future,
>>>wheras the Broncos, Bills and Vikings of the world are left to be the
>>>cannon fodder for the above-listed teams.
>>
>>So what happens if the Vikings and Broncos go to the Big Dance?
>>-- 
>

The world would stop spinning on its axis.  
Demons would come forth from the bowels of the earth.
Dogs and cats would cohabitate.
The sun would be blotted out.
etc.

Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
ps. peace


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From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Sunday observations...
Organization: Gizmonic Institute - Home of the "Super G Burger"
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:27:19 GMT

A few observations from the safety of the family room sofa:

*  Minnesota should contact Byner at Washington and see if he'll play QB
for them.

*  I don't know what would be more insulting: Being called a 'Gannon' or a
'Kosar'.

*  Maybe being called an 'Aikman'...

*  It was obvious to me that George Allen managed to tie into the Dallas
headset from the ethereal beyond and call that pass play from the endzone.

*  I bet if you looked into it closely enough you'd find that NFL
officials buy a lot of expensive gifts for friends and family after
they work a 9er game.

*  Looking forward to reading all the Aikman defenders' posts this week.
Let's see:  He threw away a chance to put Washington away, then he fumbled
away the opportunity to just run out the clock, then he manages to find
someone to sack him to prevent the comeback.  Oh yes, he's definately the
QB of the future - the opponents future.

*  I found myself agreeing with Madden, even on plays that went against
the Cowboys.  Must of been some bad salsa last night.

*  Did Klingler even complete a pass?  Everytime I switched to the game he
was overthrowing someone.

*  Singletary should be hired as the next Bear head coach.  The team played
for him like they never played for Ditka.

*  Can the Colts *really* still make the playoffs?? 8-O <-"God, No!" smiley


Gordon
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: WILDCARDS, READ THIS!
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 15 DEC 92 12:42:02    

In article <1gj53oINN3s8@spool.mu.edu>, Jason@jasons.frontiertech.com (Jason A. Beyer) writes...

>> (BTW, this would pretty much knock out Green Bay from the playoffs unless they won
>> the division because the Eagles have already beaten the Pack).
> 
>You should pay attention to the weekly scores a little better.  The Pack beat the
>Eagles (27-24).  Should the Pack go 2-0 and the Eagles (1-1), Green Bay would
>win the third wildcard spot.  I believe that Washington just has to win 1 more game
>to grab a wildcard spot, because they have a better conference record than Green Bay,
>but I'm 100% sure about this.

Conference record is printed with the standings in most daily pape rs. 
My paper says the Redskins are 7-4 and the Packers are 5-5.  The 
Packers have 2 conference games left so they could finish 7-5.  The 
Redskins have 1 conference game left so they could also finish 7-5.  

The next tie breaker is common opponents and the Redskins already have 
that category won.  So you are correct that Washington needs to win 
only one more game to secure a wildcard but they may not end up with a 
better conference record.  (Didn't intend to nit-pick but I think I 
have. :-) )

JGH
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:00:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Whiners, NOT the NINERS
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:21:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.070827.28117@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
><1992Dec14.051008.25870@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) :
>Third, what makes you think you're a man?
>
Fourteen pounds of swinging meat and a bucket of balls!
Did you faint Gordon. Yeah, I thought so! :-) Hey, you
asked.
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 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
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