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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: No Show Jones Saves the Show
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:01:21 GMT
Organization: Mr. Lazlo's Temple Of The Mighty Rude-Boy Skank

slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rich Slywczak) writes:

> Why doesn't Wynonna (and BRC) "officially" record Pop/Rock music.  They 
> are rock, their bands are rock, and I would have to listen to them!! 

Ask Billy Ray's label . . . they're the ones who're playing him up as a
country act -- *he* certainly never set out to be one.  Hell, when he
first tried to break into the music business in the mid-'80s, he went to
L.A., not Nashville. 

From what I've seen and heard of his stuff, he'd be much more comfortable
if he didn't have to deal with the old-boy network in country music, and I
can't blame him one bit.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: gil@limbic.ssdl.com (Gil Kloepfer Jr.)
Subject: Re: Thelma & Luise
Organization: Southwest Systems Development Labs, Houston, TX
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 18:06:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.140116.25026@ousrvr.oulu.fi> las@tko.vtt.fi (St}hle Lauri) writes:
>Does anybody know the name of the country-rock in the movie Thelma and Luise, 
>I mean the which was playing in the country bar where the girls were one night.

I know that Kelly Willis did some a song or two in the movie.  I'd really
like to hear more from her...sigh...  Instead, we get Wynonna Judd doing
top-40 stuff...sheesh...

-- 
! Gil Kloepfer, Jr.
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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Pop/Country/Rock/Whatever
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:46:24 GMT
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Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Adam Schneider writes:

>Personally, I
>wouldn't go near country music if not for the likes of Wynonna Judd and
>Garth Brooks, and most "traditional" country makes my skin crawl.

Amen!  I wish Conway Twitty would go away for good.

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From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Pop/Country/Rock/Whatever
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:56:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Novell, Inc.


  You really have to look at the roots
> of Country Music and see where it developed from and it's tradition.   
Rock music
> is just music; it has no real basis (except to make money).  

I thought rock music came from Country.
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From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Tish Hinojosa : Taos To Tennessee
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:02:59 GMT

I just picked up a copy of Tish Hinojosa's "new" CD, "Taos To Tennessee".
I quoted the word "new" since (1) I'm not sure how long it's been out
(it's dated 1992), and (2) the material is all from 1982-1987, and (3)
it was previously released on cassette in 1987. Six of the 12 songs
were written by Tish; three of them were re-recorded and included on her 
"Homeland" album, including my favorite "Amanecer" (but the version of
"Let Me Remember" included here is terrible; on the "Homeland" album
it was a fairly pretty song, but here it has a bouncy toe-tapping,
finger-snapping beat that ruins the song). By the way, this CD is
released by Watermelon Records, not A&M, which released "Homeland".

The best song on the album is James McMurtry's "Crazy Wind and 
Flashing Yellows". Also very good are Bill Staines' "River",
Hinojosa's "Prarie Moon", and also her "Who Showed You The Way To
My Heart".

I highly recommend the CD, even though it's not really new. If you've
never heard of Tish Hinojosa, give her a listen. She has just about
the sweetest, clearest voice in country music, similar to Suzy Bogguss.

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rich Slywczak)
Subject: Thank GOD for George Jones!!
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:28:29 GMT


I was sure glad George Jones added some class to what was the *worst* 
awards show in Nashville's "we can attract more people to country music
if me make it seem like pop" history.  Here are a few of my comments about
the award show:

1)  Someone should teach BRC that you have put the left foot in front of the
    right foot, and then the right foot in front of the left foot to walk.
    Picking them both up at the same time won't help in the least!!

2)  Who is Micheal W. Smith??  

3)  Why doesn't Wynonna just record as a pop artist??  She is rock, her band
    is rock, and then I wouldn't have to listen to it!!

3)  Ever since Lisa Hartman got a hold of Clint Black, she sure turned him
    into a preppy boy.  He's got a cute little hair style, a cute little
    outfit...what did I miss??

4)  What was Alan Jackson trying to accomplish with that wreck of a song 
    and his immediate video screen behind him??  I hope he isn't going to 
    follow Nashville's whims like other artists.

--Rich
slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov
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From: dxs@Unify.Com (Dale R. Shaver)
Subject: Just a thought...
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, California
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 23:57:01 GMT


As I listen to Eric Clapton's "Unplugged" album, I can't help
but want to put the words of Garth's song "Too Young to Feel
This Damn Old" to the tune of the new version of "Leyla".

It goes something like this in my head:

	Com'petition's gettin' younger,
	Tougher broncs, I ain't never saw
	Worn out Chris Le Deux
	Lonely women, and bad booze
	Seem to be the only friends at all...

	Leyla, you got me on my knees,
	Leyla, I'm beggin' darlin' please,
	Leyla, darlin' won't you ease my worried ... mind ...

-- 
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From: rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean)
Subject: Re: Identify artist please
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:41:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Thanks to everyone who replied, I now know that the mystery artist is
Reba McEntire and the song is on "Reba".  Noteworthy lists it for $7.99
so it looks like I have one more thing to order next time.

--
Bruce Rodean                          Hewlett-Packard Company
rodean@fc.hp.com

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From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Correction : Lyrics quiz scores
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:22:32 GMT

Well, I messed up on the scores for my latest C&W Lyrics quiz. I credited
Charles Betz with only getting 17 out of 20 correct, when actually he had
18 out of 20 correct. So, he and June Ellis both had a high score of
36 points out of a possible 40. But June identified one of the tie-breakers,
so she still comes out on top.

I'm putting together the next quiz; should be posted early next week.

Bob Marshall

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: rberry@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 10:06:54 EST
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Pop/Country/Rock/Whatever
Reply-To: <rberry@vnet.ibm.com>
Distribution: na

In  <1992Oct3.152424.19791@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>  slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rich Slywczak) writes:

>                                       So, why Wynonna might be recording the
> music she likes, there is a hard line between what is Country, and what is
> not (to me, that is).

There's a line I really like from the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's song
"Partners, Brothers and Friends."  It's about critics' response to
the NGDB's music, and it goes like this: "Is it rock or folk or
country?  Seems like everybody cares but us."

That's how I feel about it: WHO CARES?  Whatever label you put on
the music, there will *always* be some music you like and some music
you don't.  Just because there are musicians producing stuff you
consider "watered down" (or whatever) does not detract one bit from
the artists you like.  If you go and listen to a George Jones CD,
I think you will find that it has not been "diluted" by the mere
existence of Garth Brooks.

--
:: Robert Berry
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Thank GOD for George Jones!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:15:16 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

> 4)  What was Alan Jackson trying to accomplish with that wreck of a song 
>     and his immediate video screen behind him??  I hope he isn't going  
to 
>     follow Nashville's whims like other artists.

What show were you watching? I loved the new song. Catchy tune, country  
tune. The video behind me confused me until I saw the video on TNN this  
morning. There were trying to make the performance look like the video -  
Alan in the foreground and the girl in the background. Until I noticed  
this, the video looked like something from MTV and, at first, I wasn't  
pleased. Don't judge until you know the facts. And, don't forget to check  
out his new album being released Friday, Oct 9.

lynda
lyndap@novell.com
From: jerryg@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Garth Brooks - Night Rider's Lament
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:52:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.1992Oct2.195251.28838
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.

In article <1ad79vINNblq@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt) writes:
>In <1992Sep30.171407.16853@edsr.eds.com> hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) writes:
>
>
>>I thought someone would have answered this question by now, but they
>>haven't so I will.
>
>>Cattle are the stupidest creatures on God's earth, next to turkeys (I speak
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Sheep have to be stupider, believe me....any animal that will follow the 
>flock leader off the cliff just because it's there to go off off is
>*very* stupid.

This has _nothing_ to do with country music, but I have to come to the
defense of at least some of the sheep. A friend raises Navaho-Churro's,
and these critters ain't dumb. Her oldest ram is one generation off of
the Navaho reservation and he learned how to picked pears from a tree
in his pasture. Sight in the pear, leap into the air, clip a branch with
an upright horn (did I mention he has 4?) and down drops the pear. Smart
animal.
-- 
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From: bnolte@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Bill Nolte)
Subject: Re: Identify artist please
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:10:24 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <BvH4s7.K2n@fc.hp.com>, by rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean):
> I've heard a song on the radio numerous times without ever hearing who
> the artist is and I want to know that because I really like it.  I'm
> sure it's all too easy for people out there.  It's a female vocalist,
> and the line "I'm a new fool at an old game" is all through the song.
> Thanks for the answer.
> 
> --
> Bruce Rodean                          Hewlett-Packard Company
> rodean@fc.hp.com

As you will no doubt be told by numerous netters, the artist is...

Reba McEntire (God help me, but I have mental block and think I misspelled
this!!!)

Bill
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: BRC/HP
Date: 1 Oct 1992 13:51:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Maybe BRC is doin' the Hokey Pokey?? Or the Hanky Panky??
-- 
Ted....
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From: edward@twg.com (Edward C. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Best video
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:58:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.125257.13130@cbfsb.cb.att.com> texan@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (jennifer.j.sinclair) writes:
>
>Did anybody notice the look on BRC face when he accepted his award - kinda
>like - shove it up yours look?

What was the deal with the fists? As he came out to accept he looked
like he was ready for a fight.
-- 
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The Wollongong Group					(415) 962-7252
1129 San Antonio Road, Palo Alto, CA 94303
   "He's become a growling, snarling mass of white-hot canine terror"
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: October Dance Schedule for San Jose's SADDLE RACK
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:59:29 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: billd@cheetah

THE SADDLE RACK (San Jose) - Dance Schedule for OCTOBER
   (off Meridian and 280)

Tuesdays    Bill Montana
Wednesdays  George Schattle
Thursdays   Dave Coffman

----->  Lessons Start at 7:30  <-----

============================================
Tuesday    6  Acky Breaky
	      Schottische

Wednesday  7  Traveling Four Corners

Thursday   8  Boot Scootin' Boogie
	      Two Step
============================================

Tuesday   13  Alley Cat
	      Two Step

Wednesday 14  Schottische

Thursday  15  Tush Push        
	      West Coast Swing
============================================

Tuesday   20  Virgo Stut
	      Desparado Wrap

Wednesday 21  Waltz Across Texas
	      Two Step

Thursday  22  Western Electric 
              10 Step
============================================

Tuesday   27  Texas Cha Cha
	      Cowboy Cha Cha

Wednesday 28  Acky Breaky
	      16 Step            

Thursday  29  Country Two Step
              Review
============================================
============================================

UPCOMING SHOWS

Asleep At The Wheel  Monday,   October    5th
Trisha Yearwood      Sunday,   October   18th
Sammy Kershaw        Sunday,   Novemeber 15th
Mark Chesnutt        Sunday,   December   6th
Tracy Lawrence       January 1993

All show tickes are available at The Saddle Rack or any BASS Ticket Outlet
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From: rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean)
Subject: Re: Garth on the CMA show
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:28:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Jimmy Shaw (jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu) wrote:
> In article <5329@balrog.ctron.com> lawrence@olympus.ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence) writes:
> >Am I wrong? He just really seemed upset and not at all interested
> >in winning any awards. I kept hoping to see him pumped up during
> >his performance, but his voice cracked and he started tearing up
> >during the end of that too.
> >
> >					Just something I noticed.
> >					Saint.
> 
> Garth was on Dateline NBC a few weeks ago, and his eyes teared up
> when he told Jane Pauley that he is considering retiring, and
> basically hates the "business" end of the business.

This morning Mark McEwen (why was a weatherman there in the first place)
did a piece on the CBS morning show and the report said that Garth was a
bit under the weather and that's why his voice cracked.

Also did anyone notice that Mark O'Connor's fiddle wasn't picked up at
all during that song.  Hell they even did a couple of close-ups on him
during the song and you couldn't hear anything.  I wonder if the live
audience missed out on that as well.

--
Bruce Rodean                          Hewlett-Packard Company
rodean@fc.hp.com
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Best video
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:29:10 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1992Oct1.185706.3902@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>  
marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
> Everyone agree with the best video award (Alan Jackson's "Midnight in
> Montgomery")? I think it was a good video, but I really thought that
> Travis Tritt's "Anymore" was far and away the best video of the year
> (and not a bad song, either). And I also thought Reba's video "Is There
> Life Out There" was better than Jackson's, too. At least BRC didn't win  
it;
> I can't even figure how his video got nominated. What was redeeming  
about
> it at all?
> 
> 
Besides references to Hank? Personally, it has all the qualities of a  
video I like. It doesn't bombard me with a story. I hate it when I see a  
video and then, when I hear the song on the radio, all I can think of is  
the story in the video. I like to make my own interpretation of the song  
and I like to be able to apply it to something personal. Midnight in  
Montgomery video didn't give me a different picture of the song than I  
would have gotten from it myself. I also like a simple theme and to see  
the artist as themselves, not playing anyone else like in "Anymore" and  
"Is There Life Out There." I was pleasantly suprised by the win, I thought  
Reba would have had it for sure even though I didn't particulary like it.

lynda
lynda@novell.com
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From: irene@leland.Stanford.EDU (Irene M. Dris)
Subject: Re: Dolly on CMA Awards
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 17:28:00 GMT

In article <5OCT199210223741@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.005908.8735@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, 
>lhartman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lori L Hartman) writes...
>> 
>>Well, I don't agree with most of you:  I thought Dolly's performance was the 
>>best on the whole show.  I thought she was right on target and I didn't notice 
>>any voice-cracking or lip-synching.
>
>Not to sound entirely stupid, but if Dolly wasn't lip-synching, then where 
>was her microphone?
>
>JD 

she could have been wearing a cordless mic.  

id

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From: flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Suke Flournoy)
Subject: Re: Music awards
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:38:09 GMT

>She's really up & coming, but I prefer Pam Tillis.  Her outfit was gorgeous!
>Too bad she (and the other Horizon nominees) only sang parts of their songs.
>Didn't anyone tell Naomi how to announce the award?  Sheesh.

  I have a feeling the director saw the time and said, "No time for
clips."  Things definitely speeded up at the end, and amazingly, the
show ended on time.

>Dolly's closing was SOO bad.  You knew right off she was lip-synching.
>She shoulda stayed on the rides at Dollywood!

  Was she really lip-synching?  I wasn't watching too closely, but
as she climbed on stage she said something about being hoarse, and
then a couple times in the song I thought I heard her voice catch.  I
guess it still could have been recorded.  But didn't you love watching
the U.S. White Gospel Choir getting down on that song?  :^)


--Raymond Flournoy        
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From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee)
Subject: a city question
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 20:15:19 GMT

I'm orignally from Tulsa and grew up HATING KVOO and Billy Parker and 
ANYTHING EVEN SLIGHTLY COUNTRY. Then I came here, heard _No Fences_, and
suddenly I'm humming Lyle Lovett and Bob Willis all day long. 

Anyway, the question is: What's the deal with Tulsa and Boulder????

Why is Tulsa such an improtant city in country songs? "Tulsa Time", 
"Tulsa County", "Take Me Back To Tulsa"???
And why is 'moving to Boulder' suddenly an idiom for 'leaving town'?
Examples: She had a one way ticket/on the next bus for Boulder
	  Last I heard she moved to Boulder....

I mean, I know three people in this entire town who listen to country. 
The rest listen to the Dead or the Cure or Steve Miller.

What gives?
-- 
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From: chrisf@col.hp.com (Chris Fox)
Subject: Re: Garth on the CMA show
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:23:28 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

   I heard an interview with Garth after the awards on the CBS
 morning news where he said he needed to figure out how to be
 110% father AND 110% performer. I take it he will continue to
 perform. He was away alot while his wife was having trouble
 carrying the baby and that's probably what's bothering him.
 Think of the stress levels he was under. He seemed exhausted,
 yet relieved, that both situations worked out. (Winning the
 awards and the baby girl doing fine.) 
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From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: Re: Garth Brooks - Night Rider's Lament
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:07:35 GMT

> 
> Of a more topical note: What happened to Mark O'Conners fiddle in the  
CMA
> awards show?  I'm talking about Steve Wariner's song.  Ol' Mark was  
sawin'
> away, but nary a fiddle note did I hear.  He didn't seem to notice.   
Some
> engineer must have forgot to turn up Mark's channel in the mix.
> 
> h. kelly shuldberg
> hkelly@edsr.eds.com
> Albuquerque, NM

He had two things to plug in and only time to do one. I think the audience  
and the TV audience noticed.