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From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Real Life?!?! HA!!)
Subject: Re: Worst Car Award
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:08:53 GMT

tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill) writes:

>c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>>
>>Some car magazine I checked during lunch actually discussed the ugliest
>>car ever made, and I think the winner (by leaps & bounds) was a
>>French car, I think a Renault 6.  Or, any Citroen (i.e. 2CV to CX)

>French cars have a totally different aesthetic, I don't think it's fair
>to compare them if you don't speak fluent French and enjoy dry red wine.
>Also, the 2CV is a Renault, not a Citroen.

BZZZZZZZZZZZT!  Thank you for playing!  The correct answer, in fact, WAS
Citroen!  And if you ask me, the 2CV (Pronounced see-twoy-ain deuh sheuh-veau)
is pretty damn cute in its own nasty little way.

$0.02
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: amjewe01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: [a] What kind of mileage do you all get on your Beetles?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:53:16 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <C18EIE.641@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Real Life?!?! HA!!) writes:
> wanderer@camelot.bradley.edu (Kevin Murphy) writes:
> 
> 
>>well, the summary says it.. what should I expect?
> 
> My friend's '62 with 1600cc engine and stock carb usually makes between 27 and
> 35 mpg on the highway.  Don't know about around town.

> Michael T. Chaffee       | mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu  |  ______    

My (mostly) '67 with a 1600cc gets about 23 or so mpg.  This is pseudo-city
driving - driving on the interstate for 10 miles then back into the city 
driving.  

Just me and My thoughts (nobody else wants 'em)
anna
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: drew@sunrise.com (Drew Jenkins)
Subject: 86 Vanagon synchro ?
Organization: Sunrise Software International
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:00:31 GMT

I have an opportunity to pick up an 86 Vanagon synchro.

In general, I would like to know if anyone has had any experience,
good or bad, with this vehicle. What are some of the common wear
items? Is the synchro 4wd worth having? Is this particular VW even
worth considering?

Please respond via email as my news feed is about a week behind :-(.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Drew Jenkins            "Attitude is Everything"
drew@sunrise.com                 -- Bingen Bart
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: sircomp@bcarh289.bnr.ca (Brian Magee)
Subject: Re: What alternative heat sources are there?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:14:15 GMT

In article <jgladu-260193120851@128.249.27.63> jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu)) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.161738.63177@cc.usu.edu>, slhmz@cc.usu.edu wrote:
>> I would like heat in my bug, but would like to do away with the problems
>> associated with exhaust heated air.  (ie, leaking exhaust, yucky smell
>> with dirty fan, etc...)
>> 
>> So, my question is:  Is there any alternative heat sources?  What and where?
>
>I agree with Mr. Johnson's reply, but, you could always try and find a gas
>heater out there somewhere.  By 'gas' I mean 'gasoline'.  They were (are?)
>made for use in bugs, but I've never cared for having a flamethrower
>keeping my transaxle company.  I have one out in my barn somewhere that a
>coworker gave me some years ago (I think it's a 6v model and I've never
>tried to run it).
>
>I've seen ads in Hot VWs for squirrel-cage-fan heater blowers for use in a
>bug.  You might want to look into that.  The theoretical advantage is that
>all of your cooling air is still being used for cooling - not disappearing
>into a probably leaky heating system, and you can probably get the intake
>air from someplace other than the inside of the engine compartment.  You'd
>still have to deal with internally leaking heat-exchangers, if that's the
>case.  I've yet to see one dumping exhaust inside, though.
>
>bcnu - grungy '61 dddpanel, '68,'69 Bugs, '90 Vanagon

I have one of the 'newer' gas heaters.. and they are extremely 
expensive to have repaired.. mine needed some kind of bi-metalic
strip to get it to work right, and I was told that it would be
about $300 to repair it! So it is now sitting on a shelf in my garage. 
I can think of another option, but it may be a lot of work. I have seen
(in one of the Magazines) a kit that uses the hot oil from the engine
to heat the interior. It looked like an oil-cooler that you might have
mounted under the car, but it was in the vehicle behind the back seat,
with an elctric fan on it. This seems like a lot of work with drilling
holes in the fire-wall and all... but it seems like it might do the
trick (sure would keep that back window frost-free!)

later...
			Rob
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From: dans@panix.com (Dan Simoes)
Subject: [w] erratic idle on 82 Jetta
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:03:31 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


My 82 Jetta has been erratic in its idle - sometimes its fine, then other times it's really low, and the car has absolutely no power.  My guess is a clogged fuel filter or the fuel pump about to go, but I did notice one thing:
on the right hand side, where the FI stuff is, I notice a loud buzzing
noise.  On my 86 GLI, I don't hear this , at least not as loudly.  Is this an indication of the problem.  While driving this morning, I also heard a *very* loud noise coming from that area, but it stopped before I could pull over.

Any replies or followups are appreciated, but please reply to myu .uucp address if possible.`


Thanks, 

| Dan | 
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From: milo@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jim  mielo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Sparkies
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:24:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.vw
Organization: rutgers university

In article <1jul65INNk2s@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, creasyg@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Glen
Creasy) wrote:
 It's time for me to replace the spark plugs in my '84 Scirocco,
> and I am genuinely hesitant about using Bosch Platinums again.
> (I've used them for the last 3 replacements)
> 
> Has anyone else had problems with the B. Plats and what other
> brands do people recommend?

    I like the splitfire plugs. They gave me a noticable increase in power
plus after 10k they seem to be holding up fine. I also noticed a slight
fuel economy gain.



James Mielo
Rutgers College of Pharmacy '94
milo@dorm.rutgers.edu
 1990 GTi 8v

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: hrpctw@pnv.palm.cri.nz (Colin T. Wilson-Salt)
Subject: bug paint stripping
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:30:38 GMT

The time has come to repaint by beetle.  As the paint is in very poor
condition and the car seems to have been repainted a couple of times already,
I'm planning on having the paint stripped.  I can have the exterior
and visible parts of the interiout plasted media blasted for around NZ$300,
or I can have the body dipped in an acid bath for around NZ$800.  Does 
anybody know anything which may help me in deciding here?
From: milo@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jim  mielo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: clutch on 90 1/2 GLI
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:01:41 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.vw
Organization: rutgers university

In article <1993Jan21.191239.4036@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>,
moussavi@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Farshid Moussavi) wrote:
> 

> On another note, I was just wondering if any of you out there know about 
> the clutch on 90 1/2 (and presumable later ones as well) Jetta GLI.  Mine 
> engages higher than I would like, and certainly higher than when I first bought
> it. The dealer told me that it is self adjusting, and I just should live
> with it.  I guess I'm curious if this is the case with other GLI's out
> there (Does your clutch engage high as well?), can it be adjusted, and
> of course, could this mean my clutch is near its end?  I have about 49k
> miles on my car now.  Thanks in advance, and any comments are greatly 
> appreciated.
> 

   I have a 90 GTi 8v with the self adjusting clutch cable and 40k . The
clutch engages about a little more than half way up. The guy at the Vw
dealer told me the clutch should last to 60k easy. Mine still looks good.
If you want to test the clutch,  start the car put it in 3rd or 4th gear (
with the parking brake on) and let the clutch out. The car shopuld stall
right away. If it hesitates or lugs a little the clutch is slipping


> 
> Happy Driving,
> 
> Farshid

James Mielo
Rutgers College of Pharmacy '94
milo@dorm.rutgers.edu
 1990 GTi 8v

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: kmink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Kenneth S Mink)
Subject: [A]  New Top
Summary: I got a new top.
Keywords: Bug, Convertible, Top
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:21:13 GMT

Just thought I'd share my good mood.  I just got back my Bug for the
upholster's with a brand new top on it.  The old one was the original and had
gotten rather ragged out.  The guy charged $350, which wasn't the cheapest, but
was the most highly recommended.  After dealing with water coming in every time
it rained, it's going to be nice and dry inside. Well, I was in too good of a
mood to keep it to myself. See ya.

Ken


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*      \\//  \\// '74 Super Beetle Convertible- and I like Super Beetles *
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From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw,rec.autos
Subject: Re: replacing Climate Control unit in 1985 AUDI 5000S
Keywords: Climate Control, replace, Manual Vent Control?
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:01:44 GMT
 <1993Jan20.142026.22225@cs.tulane.edu> <1jjou8INNgsb@transfer.stratus.com>
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

In <1jjou8INNgsb@transfer.stratus.com> todd@zbt.sw.stratus.com (Todd Joseph) writes:

>Hi,

>I am plagued with the climate control in my 1985 Audi 5000S.  I hate
>the &%!#@ thing.  I want to pull the whole thing out and install a
>"manual vent control" box in its place.  Does this make sense?  I want
>to have a bunch of levers, like you'd find in most any VW that control
>heat, AC and bi-level, feet, vent, and defrost air flow.  Has anyone
>done this? 

Hmmmmmmmmm. Well, I hate to tell you, but that is a big "no can
do". Why? It uses a vacuum system to get the various flaps going,
and you might as well open a window if you don't like it.

They use, I believe, a system derived from Cadillac's climate
control system. (The control panel is identical) I have no idea if
the parts are interchangable.

Theres the control panel, and the (a-HEM) programmer that controls
most of the show. Most of the time it is that bloody little box.
Did yours make an incessant clicking noise? In anycase, it is
expensive to work on the climate control system of ANY GERMAN car
of the period. That is a common complaint with Mercedes-Benz owners
who bought cars in the mid-80's.


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche)
Subject: Re: [W] My 85 JettaGLI's Temperature
Organization: MetaPro Systems, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:41:16 GMT

In <C17uot.3zo.2@cs.cmu.edu> gshaffer@frc.ri.cmu.edu (Gary Shaffer) writes:

>>I dont know if I should be worried about this or not, but I just bought a 
>>85 Jetta GLI with about 97k on it.. I previously had a 85 GTI that I believe
>>had the same motor, minus the A/C, PowerSteering etc.. Well the GTI and the
>>Jetta both have the MFA guage which shows the Oil temperature (among other
>>things) the GTI's temp was usually about 165 or so, I never saw it higher
>>than 195... The Jetta However runs at about 210-220 all the time... Is this
>>normal??  It seems that the same motor should run at the same temperature
>>in both cars??  Other people with MFA guages, what temp does your car run at?

>I have an '85 GLI with about 90K on it.  Oil temp is typically about 200.
>The highest I've seen it is 230.  MPG is about 21/27.

Well, I hope you people are talking in Farenheit! Oil
temperature indicated by th MFA in my '90 GTI (8V) is up to
125C during fast runs on hot (40C) days. Usually, it sits
around 110C.

Seeing that your oil temp is so low (below water boiling
temp), I guess that you may have oil/water oil coolers.
I don't.

Fuel consumption is 7.6 to 7.8 l/100km, which includes about
60% non-city driving.
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From: milo@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jim  mielo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: [W] My 85 JettaGLI's Temperature
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:11:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.vw
Organization: rutgers university


> >ALso I have been noticing I think bad gas milage.. My Jetta seems to be getting
> >about 330-350 Miles per 14.5 gallon tank of gasoline... What kind of milage
> >do others get???  My GTI used to get almost 415 miles out of the same size 
> >tank when I first got it, but towards the end it only got about 350...

       I have a 90 GTi 1.8 8v and I get about 30 MPG ( mostly highway
miles) to about 27 MPG ( mostly city miles).Recently, I have noticed some
low points of about 26 MPG( mostly highway miles) but mainly I get high
20's overall. Unless your driving purely in the city, that does seem a
little low.

          My GTi has been farily consistent. I calculate my fuel economy
after every fill up and have never gotten any numbers less than 26 and I
give my car quite a workout.
       


James Mielo
Rutgers College of Pharmacy '94
milo@dorm.rutgers.edu
 1990 GTi 8v

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:34:12 CST
From: <U11303@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: [W] Flashing LED on stereo
 <1993Jan21.174158.14853@vestek.com>


I also have a question about those leds.  How do they work on stock
vw radios?  Do they have an extra wire in the harness that when low turns
on the led.  That is to say when the radio and ignition are off.

I just put in a blaupunkt with an led but of course the led doesnt flash
since power is always on regardless of ignition.  I guess my case is hopeless
since I only had one power cable which I used for the radio's power and memory
backup. I didn't feel like using a different circuit which wasn't intended for
the radio.

Thanks,

Mark.

--------
Mark Komosa       u11303@uicvm.uic.edu        DoD #0791        CB700SC
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: gajewski@ug.cs.dal.ca (Andy)
Subject: Re: Boost 85 GTI performance?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:08:45 GMT

In <1jugn4INNcod@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> nils@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nils Gokemeijer) writes:


>Hi there,

>I read in the FAQ that 85 GTI's performance can be boosted by cutting
>wire #11? on the ECU.  Can somebody verify this? 
>I looked it up in Bentley and it is a wire going from the ECU to the
>altitude meter (Not used) nowhere else.

Yes it is the wire number 11. It gives about 3-4 HP. The way I did it,
and I suggest you do it also, is not by cutting the wire but just taking
it out from the connection. So just undo the plug from the computer box,
indo the connectors, and push out wire 11, put tape on it and reconnect.
This way if you ever have to put it back, you just slip it in.

The wire cutting just makes the engine think it has an 86 engine.

Good Luck,
Andy

>Thanks.

>Oh, and also, can somebody send me the archived information about 
>oil-pressure? file: "oil"

>Thanks.

>-Nils
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From: colemant@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Bus Boys is ripping us off? or are they just slowwwwww?
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:54:20 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

> And finally, does anyone know what happened to Bus Boys, Inc.? I read in
> "Hot VW's" that they were one of the best places to go for later-model
> bus parts...but I sent them a money order for their catalogue back in
> August and have not received either a catalogue or my money back. I tried
> calling, but I kept getting a machine and gave up. Are there any other good
> sources for bus parts?
> Thanks in advance for any info.
> 
>                                        Rus.

I also sent my check to Bus Boys, Inc. which they promptly cashed but no
catalog has come.

Tom Coleman  324 N 500 E  Provo UT    colemant@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: etxcjog@eos.ericsson.se (Christer Jogenborn)
Subject: comp.clutches
Keywords: clutch
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:10:57 GMT

Subject is clutch for racing/rallying.
My standard GTI small diameter does not handle the strain, you have to
let go of the pedal harsh or else it start to slip.	
I will not upgrade  to a large diameter, was more thinking of higher
pressure onto the small diameter one, perhaps  a four-puck cheramic will do	
the trick.
So - has anyone experienced what the four-puck will do, or not do ?
AP has a few nice 3-4-6 puck friction discs. 	
-
There is ordinary looking frictiondisc around, having an increased pressure    
plate above the GTI one, perhaps one of theese will do.		
-
The "lump" will produce at least 130 HP to the clutch, but planned to increase
somewhat depending on what the "head" will give when massaged.                 
Data:1600 GTI,mod camshft,K-jetr,close-ratio-low-geared-g-box in a Golf/Rabbit  shell.                 
			  ! well....  Christer
From: slhmz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: The FIRE breathing bug!  Help!
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:40:36 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


I just found a 1972 super-beetle, 1500cc, sunroof for $200.

The engine starts some of the time (not most of the time...), but when
it does, it has absolutely NO compression and blows flames (yes, actual
true to life fire) out the right tailpipe.

The owner (soon to be previous owner) says that it is a ring problem.
But wouldn't bad rings just burn lots of oil?

I think it is a really bad valve problem.  What would cause a bug to
spit fire?  

Is it worth fixing?  With all my VW engine probs, I've never come 
across a fire breathing bug!  Help!

Thanks for any enlightenment...

--
Travis Carter
From: dali@stein.u.washington.edu (David A. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: 1972 VW Super Beetle FOR SALE
Date: 23 Jan 1993 03:47:28 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

Posting this for a friend.

FOR SALE
 
1972 SUPER BEETLE
 
Yellow with black interior.  Pan is rust free and completely straight.  
Car never wrecked.  Interior in very good condition.  Everything works.  
Rare factory mag wheels.  Recent battery and brakes.  New emergency 
brake cable.  Runs great.  Engine replaced with correct year and 
displacement.  Outstanding for restoration project.  Cheap to license, 
insure and drive.  170,200 miles.
 
$1700.00
OBO
 
CALL
854-7014
 
(Area code 206)

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town in Japan; so there are billions of little balls falling forever, like a
chromium-plated hailstorm that never melts."  - from "Clive James in Japan" 
From: glenn@misty.boeing.com (Glenn Cirlincione)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:05:09 GMT
Subject: Re: European Auto Racing
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane BCS Support
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw

What you are referring to is the German Touring Car Championship (GTCC).
Here in the states some PRIME affiliates (cable) broadcasted SOME of the
GTCC.  We got to see portions of the races (in other words edited).

However, because the factories were involved, politics may have ruined
the series.  Audi pulled out during mid-season and one of the other
factories (I cannot remember which) is not returning next year.

So, there may not be anything worth televising next year.

Glenn
From: heff@apollo.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: GTIs good only at high revs?
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:30:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: apollo.C1FIE1.DxC
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA


I'm buying an '87 GTI from a guy who claims that the gearing ratios
they set up for the GTIs are such that you need to rev the engine
pretty high to get it to go anywhere.  

Now, I'm buying the car anyway, cuz I love it so much, and it's a good
deal, but I'm wondering if this is a nice myth to protect gunked-up
fuel injectors.  In the test drive, it was only happy starting from a 
dead stop when the revs were up there in the 3-4k range.  It could 
definitely move off the line, but low revs weren't enough.

Are these FIs _really_ gunked up, or does this sound normal?

jeff.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: cbc1@Ra.MsState.Edu (christopher b carey)
Subject: Re: jetta crunch sound?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:24:27 GMT

rgolen@UMASSD.EDU writes:

>In article <1993Jan27.192008.1249@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, pzl@remulak.unx.dec.com (Pete Lega) writes:
>>
>>	My 91 Jetta has developed a front-end crunching sound everytime
>>	I turn the steering wheel. Any ideas on what it is?
>>	(I DONT want the dealer to sell/tell me)

>Could be:  bad strut bearings....bad steering rack....bad steering
>pump....bad ball joint....bad strut...bad bearing in your 
>steering column....lots of stuff.

My 86 Jetta just got it's CV joints replaced.
If this is the problem, the noise would probablly only be heard if the car
is moving.
The last sound I heard as I turned a corner was a crunching type sound.
Then the car wouldn't go anywhere, in any gear.

--
Got those wishing I was out of school so I could see my girl on
a regular basis blues.

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From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: "94 Jetta GLX"
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:54:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <29975@oasys.dt.navy.mil> odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell) writes:
>Supposedly, the new Jetta GLX will now be a 94 car-
>coming out in June-July or ?--
>
>  ...Stuff deleted...
>
>Anybody know about prices-specs-if in fact it really will be
>a REAL performer?--

--Everything you stated about price, equipment, and performance seemed
  to be accurated from what I've read in the latest mags.  All Jettas 
  with the exception of the GLX will be available in March.  The GLX
  won't be available until this fall.

--Aamir Qazi
-- 

Aamir Qazi
qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
--Why should I care?  I'd rather watch drying paint.
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