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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Help on ASU
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:53:32 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


 OK - I need some help coming up with a preseason article on the Sun Devils.
I stopped keeping track of the various transfers, injuries and such a
while ago - just exactly who is left on the roster? What is the probable
starting lineup? How many players are they going to suit up? Thanks,


			gln
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: O'Bannon du Jour
From: wallingf@nova.cs.uni.edu ( Eugene Wallingford )
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:12:03 -0600
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Keywords: UCLA

Peter Reiher writes:
>
>St. Louis only won 5 games last year, under a different coach.  I expect
>them to win a lot more than that, this year.  They're exactly the sort
>of team that can beat a good team having a bad night, or a good team that
>takes them lightly.  This game was much closer than the final score 
>indicated.  If St. Louis had slightly better athletes, they'd be competitive
>with almost anybody.
>
> [...]
>
>Maybe that's true, but St. Louis looked very disciplined and well coached
>after two weeks under a brand new coach.  That guy obviously knows more
>about getting teams ready quickly than Harrick does.

     Charlie Spoonhour is the coach in question.  The last few years,
     he has been taking Southwest Missouri State teams farther than
     their talent might have otherwise taken them -- with the same
     brand of team defense and half-court offense.  It may not be
     pretty all the time (right, Purdue fans?), but it can be very
     effective.

     As for "obviously know[ing] more about getting teams ready quickly
     than Harrick does", I think that we can take that as a given...

-- 
~~~~ Eugene Wallingford   ~~~~  Dept of Computer Science     ~~~~
~~~~ wallingf@cs.uni.edu  ~~~~  University of Northern Iowa  ~~~~
From: falknemj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: D-3 Basketball
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:43:28 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <1992Nov19.174353.27944@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross) writes:
> Anybody out there care about the great ball played at the D3 level ?
> Rochester's season starts this friday, and I am in great anticipation of what
> the team will be like after its return to the finals last year.  
> What about other D3 schools ? Does anybody have a poll?
> Or is only D1 ball worth talking about?
> 
> -- 
> Matt Ross
> mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
> What ever you do, take care of your shoes.

  You want good small college basketball, come to Wisconsin or Oklahoma.

  The WSUC is the toughest non-scholarship league of all in the country, by
Dunkel rankings.  And it's going to take a lot to beat OK City out of a third
NAIA championship in a row.

						Mike Falkner
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Georgetown BEAT?
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:43:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I saw a score flashed, GT got beat by some French (?) team??  All I can say
is, "HA HA HA HA HA HA".  Enough said. ;)

Mike
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From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UK-Texas Western (was: Another All-Time team
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:39:24 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

I wrote:

>that everyone (on scholarship) except ??? (from Parkland) was 6'6"
>give or take 2".

>I can't seem to remember his name right now but he was 5'10".
I got it on the way home yesterday, PJ Bowman.

Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
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From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recruiting class rankings
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:54:24 GMT

THe sad part is that LSU MAY have the best recruiting class in the
country, but with Dale Brown as coach they most likely won't even
win the SEC in the next 4 years

....

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From: derek@comlab.gatech.edu (Derek Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Poll
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:42:18 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <75102@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:

>Something like that.  The # of 1st place votes might be wrong, but I think that
>is the correct order for the top 4.  Personally, I was pleasantly surprised to
>find Tech at #14.  I figured if we'd even be ranked it would be from 20-25.
>The ACC had 4 teams in the poll: Duke(3), UNC(7), FSU(11?), and Tech(14).
>I can't remember FSU and UNC's exact rankings, but they were both higher than
>Tech's and one of them was #7.  The Big 10 also had MSU and I think Iowa.

UNC was at 7 and FSU at 9.  Looks like the ACC will pretty tough this year
if we're ranked 14 and only barely in the top half of the conference.
--
Derek B. Cook                    |	Georgia Tech Basketball
Georgia Institute of Technology  |	Current Rank: 14th       Record: 0-0
E-mail:	derek@comlab.gatech.edu  |	Next Opponent: AIA 11/17
			To Hell with Georgia!!
From: malnar@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Joe Malnar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Mich home games Dec 5-10?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:33:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

Could someone let me know if Michigan has any home games Dec 5-10?  Thanks.
-- 
Joe Malnar   malnar@bcstec.boeing.com   or   ...!uunet!bcstec!malnar
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Kareem Follows Walton On Road To Infamy
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:59:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.060847.16464@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>
>I read that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar signed with ESPN to do color
>on a dozen or so games this season.  He will be teamed with
>West Coast jack-of-all-trades Steve Physioc. 

About the only hope is that Kareem goes into "Airplane" mode
during the entire broadcast and continually denies that he
is Kareem Abdul Jabbar and demands to be left alone so he
can follow his dream of becoming an announcer.

That or he convinces Physioc to remain silent. 

> 
>Why can't I have at least one idol remain unshattered? 
> 

What has J**k H***y ever done wrong? 

>
>--Gidi
>

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Indiana All-Time Greats team -- need votes!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:17:03 CST

In article <By6z4K.197@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>
>	For those of U who didn't know, I need your votes for the All-
>	Time Indiana team!  I have about 5 votes so far.  Thanx...

And as I asked you before, is this IU the school or Indiana the state?

Assuming the former:

PG - Quinn Buckner
SG - Steve Alford
C - Kent Benson
F - Don Schlundt (I bet nobody else picks him, but he deserves to be here
                   more that a lot of the other guys)
F - Scott May

bench - Mike Woodson, Walter Bellamy, Ted Kitchel, Randy Wittman, Jimmy
        Rayl, Dick & Tom Van Arsdale (have to have them both), Isiah
	Thomas (thought I would leave him out, eh?)
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Stanford women start off nice...
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: 22 Nov 92 07:28:25 GMT

Stanford women 95,  Belgian national team 51.
OK -- I actually only got to see the first half of this game, since we
had some other stuff to do, and besides it was 51-19 at the half. :-)
Oh well...

The team looks pretty darn good.  Considering we have lost two players
who between them started three times last year, the 1992 national
champs are pretty likely to have a good season.  Redshirt freshman
Bobbie Kelsey looks _hot_ out there, and the rest of the sophomore
class looks like they've matured quite a bit over the summer.

I think we're in for a good season.

Next: vs. 12 (or is it 14?)-ranked Texas Tech, December 1.

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu

P.S. Anybody at Vanderbilt -- how's Kelly Dougherty doing out there?
Is she getting some playing time (that's the big reason why she
transferred, we hear)?
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Rozier leads Louisville to 116-76 victory over Russians
Date: 24 Nov 1992 04:55:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Louisville looked great tonight.  Rozier had 21pts/14rebs/7assists in his
first game for the Cardinals.  Michigan St better be ready, there's no way
that big fat white center (Whatever his name is) can Stop Rozier. ;-)0)0)

Jud was at the game, and they interviewed him at halftime.  He gave us the
usual compliments; "best athletic team in the nation," etc.  Should be an
interesting game, greased-lightning speed versus well-coached "power".

Louisville's not going to be moving anyone around in the post, and showed no
signs of defense tonight, but they are quick at every position.  Also, Morton
was his usual solid self.  The perimeter shooting went totally untested (Almost
every UofL basket as in the paint), but I expect Mich. St's wiley coach will
put that to the test. ;)

Mike
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Wisconsin beats Marathon Oil
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:33:09 CST

Wisconsin     98
Marathon Oil  91

Well, Bucky avoided an embarassing sweep in their exhibition schedule by
beating those oil men.  Before I call this a great win, though (it was
not), it should be noted that this same Marathon Oil team lost to Kansas by
67 points.  They only have 8 players, and one sprained his ankle in the
first half, leaving them with seven.  Also, they are essentially coachless,
the guy sitting at the end of the bench looked more like an accountant.

Tracy Webster and Michael Finley get back on track with 25 and 24 points,
respectively.  Webster made some amazing moves and shots in this one, but
also through a few ill-advised passes while driving the lane.  Other than
Finley, the rest of the team can not handle most of those quick passes.

Wisconsin's offense looked much better, mainly because they hit their
shots.  They worked the ball a bit better this game, too.  Defensively,
they bit.  Granted, Marathon Oil hit a lot of hail-mary three-pointers, but
they also beat the Badgers quite a few times in transition.

Another source of worry is the lack of an effective guard other than Tracy
Webster.  This really hurts, especially when Webster is resting.  Andy
Kilbride has been getting a lot of minutes, as well as Jason Jonnsen, but
they need to hit more of their shots to loosen things up.

Also notable was 0 minutes for Louis Ely (Loooouuuuuuu!).  New coach, same
doghouse, I guess - unless he is hurt.

Wisconsin did improve, which was encouraging.  Still, they need to improve
a lot more, or they are going to lose to the Bethune-Cookmans on their
schedule.

-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Notre Dame's chances (Was: USENET Top 25 Poll versus AP)
Organization: control_centers
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:56:14 GMT
Summary: chances? hahahahahahahahahaha

In <75114@hydra.gatech.EDU>, jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) posts:

>I am posting the results of Curtis Hill's USENET Top 25 poll, and
>the recently released AP poll.   The comments at the end of this 
>posting are from him - please direct all responses to Curtis at the
>star3! e-mail address given above.

[ Top 25 deleted ]

>USENET (Hill) POLL
>Also receiving votes:  Nebraska 122, Wake Forest 106, Brigham Young 98, 
>Texas 96, Utah 67, North Carolina-Charlotte 66, Michigan State 64, 
>Arkansas 63, Boston College 57, New Mexico State 56, Purdue 54, 
>Florida 51, Auburn 39, Virginia 37, Alabama 35, DePaul 28, Evansville 26, 
>California 25, Tennessee 24, Louisiana State 22, North Carolina State 19, 
>Arizona State 17, Missouri 17, Georgia 16, Notre Dame 13, Oregon State 13, 
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  HUH!?!?!?!

Notre Dame got 13 points?  I would LOVE to hear the reasoning behind
giving them any points.  I thought it was probably 13 people giving 
them one point each, but then I figured there weren't 13 people that 
generous.  I figure it was one die-hard who put them way too high.

Unless else something happened in the off-season, these are the only
redeeming features of ND's team this year:

1) John McCloud is no Digger Phelps.

2) Monty Williams is back for his senior year.

3) Billy Taylor showed a lot of promise as a freshman last year.

Other than that, I see it being a long, boring winter in South Bend :(

Rob
-- 
What good are these thoughts that I'm thinking
It must be better not to be thinking at all    --Lou Reed
                                
Rob 'Otis' Day     robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Raucous crowds
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:23:34 GMT
Organization: .

(Rick Suffridge) writes:
>jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>: 
>: 	Not to say that it's just the ACC -- the SEC has had some pretty
>: 	rowdy crowds over the years.  For instance, when UK was under
>: 	investigation back in the 88-89 season, whenever they would visit
>: 	an opposing arena, the fans would wave ACT bulletings (in reference
>: 	to Eric Manual) and throw Emery packages onto the floor.  I also
>: 	remember when Dwayne Schintzius once got into trouble for hitting
>: 	a guy over the head w/ a tennis racket.  At the Florida/Vandy
>: 	game, the fans threw tennis balls onto the court!  A technical foul
>: \	was called, and if I remember correctly, it ended up being crucial
>: 	in the contest.
>: 
>
>  The incident at Vandy cost them the SEC championship I believe.  If memory
>  serves correctly, the incident occurred with seconds left in the game with
>  Vandy holding a slim lead.  The technical free throws tied the game and 
>  sent it into overtime.  Florida then won the game in OT.  They ended the 
>  season winning the conference by 1 game over Vandy I believe, so if Vandy
>  had won they would have tied for the league title.

The same thing happened at LSU that year.  Mr Dwayne "my long hair just
can't cover up my red neck" Schintzius was pelted late in the game by a
few dozens Penn's.  He acted like we had played right into his hands,
all jubilant and such.  Well, we did...and his technical foul FT's iced
the game for the Gators.  

I think this was the same year we were naughty enough to fling Emery
packages all over the PMAC during the UK game.  The Godfather, A.D. Joe Dean, 
grabbed the microphone in Daddy Dale-like fashion and chastised us
pretty well.  hee,hee.  

After the UF game, Dean made the announcement that the student section
would be moved to behind the baseline the following season, to hopefully
discourage this kind of behavior.  Luckily, we were able to raise
enough cain in the offseason to change his mind.  (we ain't no dookies)


--J.J.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jjungbau@peregrin.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Dominic Ellison
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 05:04:52 GMT

Dominic Ellison has committed to WSU for next year.  Can anyone
in California who has seen him play or knows anything about him
give me their impressions of him?  I've heard some very brief
stats, and I caught a glimpse of him in a high school tournament
game in Las Vegas, but I really don't know that much about him.
I understand that he is rated as the number 1 or 2 point guard
on the west coast.

Jim
-- 
Jim Jungbauer                 |  Go Vikings, Northstars, Cougars!
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EECS Department               |  "Nice move by Bellows... big drive... SCORES!"
Washington State University   |     -- Mike Emrick, 1991 Norris Division Finals
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.olympics,rec.sport.basketball.pro,rec.sport.basketball
Subject: Much delayed Cumulative US Olympic Team Stats
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:29:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

It takes me quite a long time, doesn't it. Sorry about the delay. For those
who followed Team USA over the summer. Here are (finally) the cumulative
statistics for the Olympics regarding the men's basketball team. (Maybe when I
have some time I'll do the women's stats too, hopefully by Christmas!)

FINAL CUMULATIVE STATISTICS FOR USA MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM

G-M:	Games played-minutes played
FG: 	Field goals made-attempted
3FG:	Three-pointers made-attempted
FT:	Free throws made-attempted
O-TR:	Offensive-total rebounds
A-TO-B:	Assists-turnovers-blocks
PF-DQ:	Personal fouls-disqualifications
P:	Points
PPG:	Points per game
A/T:	Assist-to-turnover ratio
SPG:	Steals per game

Player	G-M	FG	3FG	FT	O-TR	A-TO-B	PF-DQ	P-PPG
Barkley	8-149	59-83	7-8	19-26	19-33	19-6-1	23-1	144-18.0
Bird	8-144	25-48	9-27	8-10	4-30	14-5-2	12-0	67- 8.4
Drexler	8-170	37-64	6-21	4-10	13-24	29-7-1	14-0	84-10.5
Ewing	8-140	33-53	0-0	10-16	13-42	3-5-15	20-2	76- 9.5
Johnson	6-109	17-30	6-13	8-10	2-14	33-6-0	3-0	48- 8.0
Jordan	8-184	51-113	4-19	13-19	7-19	38-10-4	14-0	119-14.9
Laettner8-61	9-20	2-6	18-20	5-20	3-1-3	11-0	38- 4.8
Malone	8-138	40-62	0-0	24-32	12-42	13-4-5	10-0	104-13.0
Mullin	8-173	39-63	14-26	11-14	4-13	25-5-2	12-0	103-12.9
Pippen	8-170	28-47	5-13	11-15	4-17	47-8-1	13-0	72- 9.0
Robinson8-133	27-47	0-0	18-26	11-33	7-8-12	16-0	72- 9.0
Stockton4-29	4-8	1-2	2-3	0-1	8-2-0	1-0	11- 2.8
TEAM	8-1600	369-638	54-135	146-201	94-288	239-67-43 149	938-117.3
		.578	.400	.726		3.567A/T
STEALS:
Barkley	21		Bird 	11		Drexler	20
Ewing	7		Johnson	7		Jordan	37
Laettner6		Malone	12		Mullin	14
Pippen	23		Robinson15		Stockton0
TEAM	173	21.6 SPG

OPP	8-1600	214-587	57-187	102-151	64-180	109-121-13 155	588- 73.5
		.365	.305	.675		0.901A/T
STEALS:	106	13.3 SPG

Any mistakes in calculations are my own or any misprogramming in my
calculator. 

-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	Biomedical Engineering 1993
	Hope you have a very good "Native American Exploitation" Day.
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: marrakj@nfms.network.com (Kalen J. Marra)
Subject: Penn State Vs. Marathon Oil
Originator: marrakj@nfms.network.com
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:16:26 GMT

Can anyone give me some stats on the game.

I am interested in the stats of one Greg VanSoelen of Marathon Oil.

Any info would be appreciated.

TIA, Kalen

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Kalen Marra                            marrakj@network.com
Network Systems Corp.                  (612) 424-1761
Minneapolis, MN
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Kalen Marra                            marrakj@network.com
Network Systems Corp.                  (612) 424-1761
Minneapolis, MN
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: All-time Duke team poll: Results
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:00:11 GMT



> csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:

> with Duke (a basket_weaving) University

Charles, were your combined SAT's over 1500?


To quote George Harris, where did this guy come from?  


--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
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From: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM (Don Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Marathon Oil
Date: 20 Nov 1992 20:07:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dswalker.ebay.sun.com


Would someone tell me about Marathon Oil. I thought everyone was
kidding about this team. Anyone good or decent on it. Is it a
college team, or rejects from whereever.

Thanx

Donald
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Women's Basketball?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:49:59 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov

In article <BxxrzH.8yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>My girlfriend is a cheerleader here at the U of Illinois
>and will be cheering at all of the Women's B-ball games.  She
>wishes to know if all other basketball fanatics hate Women's 
>B-ball like myself and countless friends.  She wants to know
>what the big difference is between the two - she believes 
>B-ball is B-ball, no matter who is participating.  We (myself
>and others) have tried to explain our perspectives to her, but
>she wants unbiased opinions of total strangers.
>

If you've ever been to a women's game between two good teams, you'll
see that women's hoops can be just as good and exciting as men's.
The Virginia women have been involved in some great games in the
past few years against Maryland, NC State and North Carolina. Two of
the most exciting basketball games I've ever seen were last years
games between Maryland and Virginia. UMd won by one in Charlottesville
to take the number 1 spot away from Virginia and then UVa turned around
and won by 1 in College Park to reclaim the number 1 spot. 

-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
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