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From: sandhu@seas.gwu.edu (Jasvinder Sandhu)
Subject: Liverpool,Leeds,Rangers,..
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:07:26 GMT

we've had a lot of news on the net about how bad Liverpool are
doing this season, and many excuses such as the bad management of
Souness and the injury crisis. I think it's a combination of both.
Once Liverpool do get their team together they will become their
usual force, but then it migth be to late. But i don't expect
Souness to go, but watch out when the come back.
But what has happened to Leeds this season. Their manager has not changed
and the team seems to be the same as last season from what i've heard on
the world service. They seem to be leting in goals like it was 
christmas, and the midfield seems to be no-where. They were out-classed by
Rangers. So where are all the Leeds supporters, let us know whats happening
with the slide down the table. Do Leeds need a defence or what?

P.S. I think Rangers deserved to win against Leeds, but the were playing a
side which was definitely out of form for whatever reasons, and Rangers are
in the weaker of the 2 European groups, they won't have a better chance of
getting to the EC final. But i don't think they'll do it. With Leeds they
were playing a British side, playing the usual long ball stuff, with the
European sides they'll play against a style which they're not suited for,
so i think they'll get beat, like they usually do against average European 
teams.


well we'll see soon anyway.
jas

Go Arsenal, (and Celtic in Scotland).
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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: Re: English Premier Division - early preds
Keywords: will it be Villa or Arsenal ?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:16:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.173544.4133@psych.toronto.edu>, paulf@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Frankland) writes:

> I agree that Villa will probably challenge for the league this season, but
> why are Villa a traditional power and Q.P.R. not? Since winning the league
> in '81 Villa have hardly been the power you seem to think they are. Villa 
> have dropped into the old second division, while Q.P.R. have spent the last
> 9 or 10 seasons in the first/premier. I don't know the actual figures, but
> I've a feeling that Villa's showing in the league is no better than Rangers'.
> 
> Paul Frankland
> Toronto

Villa have won the championship a few times in their history, as well as
the F.A. Cup (I think they tie Spurs for the record with 7).
Lets not forget that they have also won the European Champions Cup in
1982 (1-0 vs. Bayern Munich in Rotterdam).
So, their trophy case over the years justifies the term "traditional power".

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From: tma@progress.COM (Tim Atchison)
Subject: Re: The beloved get beaten
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:21:21 GMT

W.H.Morrison <WMORRISO@ESOC.BITNET> writes:

>No doubt we'll have a few choice words from DENISE about how Spartak Moscow
>cannot hold a candle to HER BELOVED. 6-2 is a hell of an aggreate.

Maybe its me, but does any one else notice that DENISE only seems to post
every 28 days or so ?  I don't think it's that time of the month yet. ;-)
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From: vdschoot@csi.UOttawa.CA (Hans van der Schoot)
Subject: Re: BRAZIL in 94
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:45:07 GMT

In article <BxHA8D.A3H@umassd.edu>, rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto) writes:
|> Hello all
|> 
|> Look out for Brazil in 94. They are goingo to come
|> out screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeming. :-)

after which they will go out (of the WC) cryyyyyyyyyyyying; another
disappointment for the ??great samba dancers?? :-)

|> 
|> Frank Pinto

Hans van der Schoot
From: reds@gribb.hsr.no (Svendsen, Trygve       7-95)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: JIM'S PROBLEM WITH ARSENAL
Keywords: See a psychiatrist,Jim
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:36:57 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

In article <1ddltpINN1b0@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) writes:
>From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
>Subject: Re: JIM'S PROBLEM WITH ARSENAL
>Keywords: See a psychiatrist,Jim
>Date: 6 Nov 92 11:46:01 GMT

>In article <reds.68.720955842@gribb.hsr.no> reds@gribb.hsr.no (Svendsen, Trygve       7-95) writes:
>>
>>Ian Walker for England???  
>>He is one of the main reasons for Spurs' annual relegation struggle.

>Blimey that's a bit strong. He's only been in the team since last season
>and even then Erik and him shared the duties about 50/50!

>>Our goalie, Erik Thorstvedt, beats him anyday.
>>Under him Spurs are currently on a two games winning run(without conceding
>>a goal).  Walker completely lacks the authority of Erik the Viking.

>Remember who was between the sticks when we were gubbed 5-0 by Leeds, and
>whose fault the first goal in that game was. I think dropping Erik for a
>few games seems to have done the trick. That and his successes with Norway
>seem to have rekindled his confidence, and he may now enjoy a run with the
>first team again. Let's see how he does at Blackburn tomorrow.

Another shutout. Erik has not let in a goal in over 5 hours of football
I make it. Whatever happened to the suspect Spurs defence?

TRYGVE SVENDSEN 
NORWAY


>>As a Spurs-fan you should be the first to know.

>Actually I do prefer Thorstvedt, but he's not exactly in the running
>for an England space!

>>And for England, Woods is the clear #1.

>Things ARE getting sesperate for England!

>-- 
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From: bernal@sanandreas.ecn.purdue.edu (Andres  Bernal)
Subject: Colombia Nov. 11
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:29:44 GMT


     Grupo B

En Bogota   : Santa Fe  (2)  America   (2)      |  Nacional     3.25
En Medellin : Nacioanal (2)  Magdalena (1)      |  America      3.00
                                                |  Union        2.50
                                                |  Santafe      2.00
                                                |
En Santa Marta : U. Magdalena vs Santa Fe 4-3   |          
En Cali        : America vs Nacional      3-3   |
                                                |
===============================================================================
                                                |
     Grupo A                                    |        Posiciones
                                                |  Junior        3.75
En Cali         : cali      (2)  Millonarios (0)|  Cali          2.75
En Barranquilla : Junior    (3)  Bucaramanga (2)|  Bucaramanga   2.00
                                                |  Millos        1.25
                                                |
En Bogota       : Millonarios vs Junior     1-1 |
En Bucaramanga  : Bucaramanga vs Cali.      1-0 |
===============================================================================

Millonarios iba ganando hasta faltando 10 minutos, en ese momento Pacheco coge la bola se pasa a varios jugadores de Millos y hace el pase que termina en gol.
El arbitro del partido Santafe - America (fecha anterior) fue suspendido.  America iba ganandole al Nacional 2-0.  Los equipos de Bogota estan ultimos, y parece que de alli ya no salen.  Al tren Valencia lo echaron por pisar a un contrario y le deben dar 2 fechas por reincidencia.  Anoche Flamengo y Racing clasificaron a la final de la Supercopa.

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From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Re: I scouse, You scouse, We scouse ...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:56:26 GMT

In <6NOV199216264309@adpdp2.lanl.gov> 098802@adpdp2.lanl.gov (098802) writes:

>Please excuse those of us across the pond who are uninitiated. Usually, when I
>read this group, I can interpolate the meaning of those insular expressions not
>extant in common speech. However, I must confess, the term "scouser" confuses
>me. If there exists a word "scouser", I assume there must be a verb "to
>scouse". Is it transitive, as in "Denise scouses Scott", intransitive (Denise
>was scoused by Souness' promiscuous defecations). Is it pejorative (Your
>mother's a slithering scouser) or endearing (My dear, I can't tell you how
>scousing you look in the moonlight)? How is it pronounced? Does it
>rhyme with cows, or moos. This is important because I wish my forthcoming 
>Doggerel to Denise to be appealing to the ear. However, my magnum opus must
>remain unfinished unless I know the etomology, or at least the meaning of this
>interesting applation. Please inform!

I can't tell whether you are serious or kidding. A scouser is someone who
speaks scouse, the language of Liverpool.

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From: cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Sunderland Reports
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:36 GMT
	<1992Nov4.170645.9650@praxis.co.uk> <Bx8nt2.8J0@newcastle.ac.uk>
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

Sunderland reports may be available from a guy who wrote to me after I on
my team(wolves) being crap by losing to Sunderland. I will fish his address
out of the dustbin if you want me to. Anyway, Wolves are much more interesting
AND we have a mailing list as well.

P.S. Sunderland are actually going to be playing Aldershot next season because
their chairman will run off with his secretary and take 10 million out of
the clubs account before running off to Newcastle(!).
--> Sunderland go bust
--> Newcastle come second in everything(Wolves come first)
--> Sunderland lose to the Tewkesbury under 7`s team.
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From:  (Richard Moores)
Subject: Re: English Soccer
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:13:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.122638.25124@fwi.uva.nl>, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa
Bronstring) wrote:
> 
> louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen) writes:
> 
> >I can understand that as well. I already made a reply on this stupid 
> >posting. The most worse of all is that they don't even have the guts
> >to reply on the reactions they have caused on the net. The asses.
> 
> >Louis Kossen
> 
>    Lesson 1:
> 
>    English soccer sucks.
> 
>    Lesson 2: 
> 
>    We don't
> 
>    Lesson 3:
> 
>    The Dutch national team is the best in the world 
> 
>    Lesson 4:
> 
>    Germans are dirty, not Dutchmen. We don't need it...
> 
>    Lesson 5:
> 
>    We still laugh at Blackburn and all those shit.
> 
>    Suggestion: 
> 
>    Start rec.sport.soccer.brittish
> 
> Sidney & Mischa
> 
> PS: Get a life!
> -- 
> -  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
> -     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
> -  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
> -     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           

I wonder if this individual is a close friend of Denise's ? There seems to
be a common thread, limited argumentative ability, tunnel vision, PSV -
Phillips connection, Residence in Holland.

...Just a thought

Richard Moores - Koppite In Exile    
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada.
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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English Soccer
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:46:36 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam


Hello!

We think English soccer #%$%#@$%s.
Explanations: English teams don't know anything about tactics.
But, the English posters on this group always pretend as if their soccer
is world-class! So much fuss about nothing...

We mean, Blackburn Rovers on top of the league... A promovendus...
And then the way they are on top: far too many draws and losses for a real 
top team. Here in Holland, for example, a team will never be first after
that many rounds with that many lost points! PSV here is first in the
league, but they're still chased by Ajax, Feyenoord and FC Twente, even 
while they've only lost 2 points in 10 matches now!

You see it again in the European Cup-tournaments: Only Glasgow Rangers
(allright, it's Scottish) plays further, and we think it's only because
they've played Leeds Utd. If they'd played against a continental team
(well, not Austrian, Swiss, Norwegian, or something like that) they'd
been kicked out, we're sure!

Conclusion: There are no real top-teams in England! It's a 'unity-
sausage', as we use to say in Dutch. You sure feel what that means!

As an end of this posting two things:

- We'd like our theory proven (e.g. PSV gets into the same poule as
  Rangers),
- We'd like to give you all a tip: DREAM ON!!!


PS: We do like your ambiance!

Greetings,

Sidney vd Poll     (Ajax-fan, vdpoll@fwi.uva.nl)
Mischa Bronstring  (PSV-fan, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl)

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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championship of Rio de Janeiro - BR
Date: 13 Nov 1992 07:04:07 -0600
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
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X-Unparseable-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:01:32 BRA

 Championship of state of Rio de Janeiro , Brazil

                     Taca Rio
                     """"""""
Game of Round 1 Postponed
Nov. 11st
---------
Fluminese      1-0   America-RJ
Ezio(p) 26(1)

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          POS TEAM           P+   G   W   D   L  GF-GA    SG    P-  TP
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
           1  VASCO DA GAMA  15   8   7   1   0  18-05    13     1  33
           2  FLUMINENSE     11   7   4   3   0  10-03     7     3  25
           3  AMERICA-TR     10   8   3   4   1  08-05     3     6  18
           4  BOTAFOGO        9   8   2   5   1  10-10     0     7  24
           5  OLARIA          8   8   3   2   3  08-06     2     8   8
           6  VOLTA REDONDA   8   7   3   2   2  09-09     0     6  17
           7  AMERICANO       8   7   2   4   1  06-04     2     6  15
           8  GOYTACAZ        7   7   2   3   2  05-05     0     7   7
           9  BANGU           7   8   1   5   2  04-04     0     9  23
          10  FLAMENGO        6   5   3   0   2  10-05     5     4  22
          11  AMERICA-RJ      4   8   1   2   5  06-14    -8    12   9
          12  MADUREIRA       4   8   1   2   5  05-15   -10    12  18
          13  CAMPO GRANDE    3   7   1   1   5  07-10    -3    11   8
          14  ITAPERUNA       2   6   0   2   4  03-14   -11    10   7
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Just laughing at England
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:47:32 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) writes:

>In article <BxI3Dn.Drw@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:

>>Ther used to be a competion in the early 70s like this, Dryborough Cup? but
>>I can't remember what the general outcome was over the piece.

>Wasn't this the Texaco Cup?

That's the one

>>Dave (An unfortunate St. Mirren supporter :-( )

>Don't worry. Good times will return to Love Street, and once more will
>the vile Rangers and awful Celtic be put to the sword by Paisley's finest!

Not if the current form is continued...scraped a win at Clydebank..1-0 down
with 15 minutes left...  :-(

Dave
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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Officiating Changes?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:47:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Marco -

	3 referees? What an awful thought. Although I truly doubt any more 
changes (other than minor cosmetics) in the laws will be allowed this close 
to the world cup.

	I am definitely opposed to the idea (and I am a referee)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu

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From: altizer@figaro (Robert Altizer)
Subject: Re: Coaching from the touchline 
Reply-To: altizer@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:53:11 GMT

See Law V, the powers and duties of the referee.  The referee is instructed
not to allow coaching from the touchline (interestingly, this is the only 
mention of a coach or coaching in the Laws).  College play in the USA under
NCAA or NJCAA rules permits positive coaching but forbids use of artificial 
aids such as megaphones or bullhorns.

If someone coaches from the touchline in a FIFA match, he is guilty of
ungentlemanly conduct.  In a youth match, he may be cautioned or sent off
formally, and shown the yellow or red card (under USYSA administrative rules).
In an amateur (senior) or professional match, he can be dismissed and the
incident reported, but the cards aren't supposed to be used.  I have seen it
done, though.

-- Bob

PS - Use Law XVIII (common sense!) when deciding when to punish coaching from the
touchline.  Talk to the offender, who may not be aware of his offense, before
sending him off!


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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Swedish club in Europe
Date: 5 Nov 1992 06:42:51 -0600
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    Champions' Cup; Second round, second leg, played the 4th of November 1992

         Lech Poznan         0         IFK Goeteborg       3 :-)
                                            Ekstroem '28
                                            M. Nilsson '47
                                            Mild '84
         Att.: 30000
         (IFK advance 4-0 on aggregate)
              IFK played very well in the first half and grabbed the lead
    when Johnny Ekstroem picked up a rebound after a beautiful effort by
    Stefan Rehn. The Angels had more chances and had one goal waved off for
    offside after a corner. The second half started with Mikael Nilsson 
    settling the match. Haakan Mild got the beauty of the night with a
    tremendous strike into the top corner of the net. All in all, the 
    blue-whites were much better and fully deserved the bucks the advancement 
    will mean.

Kent
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From: tkovacs@cribble (Tamas Kovacs - EECS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: European Review, No.2
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:16:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Three big hoorays for Pavel.  The comprehensive coverage and listing of all
major competitions is welcome.  Copyright laws? What copyright laws.
Keep it up! We'll read it!

Tamas  (Gee! Looks like Hungary just might squeak into World Cup '94.
        Stranger things have been known to have happened.)

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