From: Joy.Hanson@fbbs.omahug.org (Joy Hanson)
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Subject: Stagnant groups
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:36:10 CST
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TO: dburgdor@cwis.umomaha.edu
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Unto Lord Elwyn of Thornbury comes greetings from Lady Juelda of
Salisbury.
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In a discussion between you and Lord Arval, about asking groups to hold a
minimum number of events you drew on your observations as a member of
the Barony of Lonely Tower.  I was surprised at some of your observations
and hope that you don't mind if I make a few of my own here.
  I have been a member of the Barony since 1983 (when it was still a
Shire) and a founding member of the Canton of Afon Ddraig.
  In going back over my MEWS (Calontir's Kingdom newsletter) since 1989 I
have found that the Barony and Canton have put on between three and four
Kingdom events per year, and yes that does include 12th night.  We have
*always* done the Royal University session when it rotates though to our
time, and we *always* do Crown Tourney when it also rotates through our
time, and I am sure we will do Coronation when it is our time.  The last
RUSH session for our rotation was done at Long's Landing in Council
Bluffs with Tomekii and Fiona on the Falcon thrones, and was our first
"camping RUSH".  ON a general note the Canton has never done a 12th
night.  We have had a person who lives in the Canton autocrat it, but it
was as a Baronial event.  The Canton *has* however done a Crown Tourney
that was sponsored by the Barony (before we lost the Incipient status).
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 You made the statement:  
>What happened?  Sir Rorik Galbraith, our Baron, became King of Calontir.
 Suddenly, a large part of the Baronial populace HAD to play on a Kingdom
level."
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I would like to point out somethings. Yes, I do believe that more members
of the Barony started to travel during Rorik and Morgana's reign.  But
not because they *HAD* to.  The people who made up retinue for their
reign were half Barony and half Canton and were people who had *already*
been traveling to out of town events.  One of the reasons why we were
asked to BE retinue.  Many of our members travel to Forgotten Sea (a
three hour drive) or to Coeur d'Ennui (a 2 to 3 hour drive) as well as
Mag Mor (a one hour drive).  We also have had at least *THREE* Kingdom
officers living in the Barony and Canton and that alone requires some
traveling.
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You also said:
>A vital, active group is likely to be not only able, but willing to show
off its talents to the Kingdom at large.
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I agree, but dosn't showing off our talents mean more than just doing
Kingdom events?  Many times groups are limited to doing Kingdom events by
money (or lack there of) and by people willing to autocrat.
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We will, I hope agree to disagree about if the Canton is a "vital" part
of the Barony.  I believe it is, and would discuss it with you someplace
other than a International echo, if you wish.
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I guess my point behind all of this was to show that the Barony has been
more active than you or your Lady Wife might have known.
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I will get down off my soap box now and thank you for your time.
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Lady Juelda of Salsibury

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