HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davis@lugg.utah.edu (Darrell R. Davis)
Subject: CAP with different subnets
Organization: College of Science, University of Utah
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:42:13



I want to run CAP on an SGI and a Sun.  The main application would be
for laserwriter service since they both have have postscript printers,
while my Mac does not.  We will ultimately use another SGI box as an
NFS server for a Mac cluster, but this is down the road.  One problem
is that the Fastpath has a different subnet number than the Unix
boxes.  That is the Unix boxes are 128.110.74.1 and 128.110.74.3 while
the IP address of the FastPath is 128.110.106.1.  This seems to limit
my options.

Helpful suggestions as to the "best" configuration for Sun and/or SGI
would be appreciated.


--------------------------------------------------------------
 
 Darrell R. Davis 
 Medicinal Chemistry 
 University of Utah 
  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: butler@elvis.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Subject: Re: Running Xwindows on a remote Sun.
Reply-To: butler@elvis.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:36:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.052841.28772@sarah.albany.edu>, pw4963@sarah.albany.edu (Peter G. White) writes:
>
>
>I would like to run Xwindows from my mac connected to a sun via a 9600
>baud modem link.  What would be necessary. I know I would need MacX, but
>how would I make the connection using a modem.  Thanks in advance...
>


	You probably know this by now (it's almost a FAQ) but your
performance is going to be very slow for anything but entering text, and
even then it's not that great (IMHO).  I never realized how many steps
an X client goes through when it puts a display on the screen.  When
running SLIP you get to watch everything get drawn on the screen in a
painfully slow manner... not at all like the "click-and-BANG" it's there
performance you get on the SUN.

	I was running SLIP via two V.fast modems between my Mac and my
DEC box (granted, the DEC's RS-232 output speed was limited to 38400;
input is limited to less than that, effectively, but most of the data
flow is *to* the Mac).  The modem was verifying that the data transfer
rate was 38400 during the bursts.

	I tried Mac X and eXodus.  Mac X gave me the most satisfying
performance, but if all you're really looking for is multiple sessions
then get a SLIP version of NCSA telnet (one comes with MacSLIP, and
others are available) and run multiple connections via SLIP with that.

	Good luck,

	Jim

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From: Espen.H.Koht@dartmouth.edu (Espen H. Koht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: v.32bis modems for Duo series
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:23:59 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b3@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1993Jan27.204251.29862@news.arc.nasa.gov>
medin@cincsac.arc.nasa.gov (Milo S. Medin) writes:

> Anyways, if anyone knows of high speed internal modem for the Duo's, I'd
> be obliged in knowing the sources.  Apparently you also can't plug a mouse
> or printer into the Duo's without the docking adapter either, so that's
> a pain too (why can't Apple seem to offer the same capabilities that
> PC vendors can?), but such is life.  

  Well in addition to Apple's yet to ship (in quantities) Express
modem, MacWeek reports that Twincom is working on a internal Duo modem.
 
  I'm not sure why you get the impression that a printer can't be
hooked into the Duo. It has a network port which could also be used as
a serial port, giving you plenty of printing options.  I am without a
dock for now, but it is infact quite sufficient for me. You you are
right about the mouse though, you'll need either an adaptor or dock for
that, unless you want to hook a serial mouse to the serial port
(loosing your network connection).  There is at least one serial mouse
driver floating around netland somewhere, but I must confess I've never
tried it.
From: owen-christopher@yale.edu (Christopher Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Looking for externals...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:51:58 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1993Jan21.041255.440587@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com> Bill_B._Matthews@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com writes:

>I've recently started up a Hermes BBS and I can't seem to find any
>externals.  Can someone tell me where I could find some?  I'd like it to be
>a local source... I'm in Toronto... if that helps.

Well it's not local but I have most available externals at (203) 772-4485.
Most externals are also located at ftp.cs.yale.edu in the directory
/pub/hermes.  I haven't updated this with the most recent stuff but it is 
reasonably up-to-date.

Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: amun@quads.uchicago.edu (james frederick amundson)
Subject: Re: XferIt version
Summary: **Do not send money to Steven Falkenburg**
Reply-To: amun@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:56:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.175405.1705@st-andrews.ac.uk> shb@dcs.st-and.ac.uk (Simon Brock) writes:
>I have seen two versions of XferIt on various archives, namely 1.4 and
>1.5b4.  From what I have seen of 1.5b4 it is a number of useful features
>(such as drag and drop ftp).  However, it seems to be a little fragile 
>and that drag and drop feature does not seem to work with System 7.1.

1.5b4 is the latest version I've seen. I'm not only a registered
user, I've registered *two* copies. I can't get drag and drop to work
with 7.1, either. I do have one helpful hint for 1.5b4. Make sure that
you have a default download directory set. It seems to work much
better once you've done that.

>Therefore the question is what has become of XferIt?  Was there ever a 
>release version of 1.5 which was only sent to registered users?

I do *not* recommend registering XferIt. I sent payment for two
copies months ago. I haven't even been able to get the registration
code to remove the startup dialog, not even after repeated attempts to
email the author.

I repeat, do *not* send money to Steven Falkenburg. He does not honor
his end of the shareware agreement. When I inquired about this on the
net a few months ago I heard several stories similar to my own.

I would think that Apple Computer would be very embarrassed to have a
dishonest employee using an email address at Apple Computer taking
money under false pretenses.

It's really too bad, because XferIt is (almost) an excellent little
program. I had to go through a significant amount of trouble to get
the bureaucracy here to shell out for a shareware payment. Now that
we've been burned once, it's going to be hard to convince them to do
it again.

--Jim Amundson





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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Shareable MODEM.
From: harry@hjwmac.DIALix.oz.au
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:15:03 
X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version


Does anyone know of a way I can access a MODEM on a Mac via
LocalTalk ? My set-up is as follows ; My Mac LC connected to a Mac
Portable via LocalTalk with the Portable having a MODEM. I would
like to use the MODEM with uupc 3.0 (which is on my Mac LC) and
don't want to install uupc onto the Portable.

Regards,
Harry WERKMAN
harry@hjwmac.DIALix.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Tim_D._Keanini@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:43:08 PST
Subject: Re: uAccess 1.62

I hope everyone knows that uAccess has been purchased by Intercon.  The product
now is called UUCP/connect.  
You can call Intercon and find out what the upgrade price is if you have
uAccess already.  If you just want to purchase uAccess you need to call them
and buy UUCP/connect.


**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: mrhoten@cs.stanford.edu (Matthew Rhoten)
Subject: Re: What does 0xB6DB6DB6 mean to you?
Originator: mrhoten@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:22:43 GMT

salmon@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Salmon) writes:

>> I would guess it's some kind of debugging tool;  the binary
>> representation is ...110110110110110110... but I can't figure out who
>> might be reponsible...

>I believe that the code B6DBB6DB... occurrs in unused ROM space.

My impression is that the Mac's initial power-up memory test puts first
011011011... and then 101101101... and then 110110110... in memory
to test it. This would then just be left over from said memory test.

My guess is based on the fact that this is what my old Mac's video
display looked like during powerup, neh? slowly sliding diagonal bars.

 -matt
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From: lai@Apple.COM (Ed Lai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: 'aete' TMPL wanted
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:48:43 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <JPM.93Jan22022927@cardhu.cs.hut.fi> jpm@cs.hut.fi (Jussi-Pekka Mantere) writes:
>Povl H. Pedersen <povlphp@uts.uni-c.dk> writes:
>
>   Subject says it all. Please mail me an aete TNPL if you have one.
>   I am going to start doing some AE stuff.
>
>You'd rather want to use an aete HyperCard stack, found on the
>Developer CD's.
>

You can also find the latest version (among other Apple Events related stuff)
from ftp.apple.com in the directory /pub/appleevents

>(Sorry, I don't have the CD handy, but will look the path up if
>necessary.)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jussi-Pekka Mantere

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: NEWBIE QUERY: Toolbox and Pascal
Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:56:11 GMT

jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) writes ...
>Well, in all things, there is something that you are new at, and this is
>one of them.
[...]
>Am I on the right track?  Anyone have some code (game/application/DA)
>that I can rip apart to tour through?  :)

For more advanced examples you may want to look on Apple's FTP server.
They keep several source code examples which provide examples of how
to do various things.  The server is ftp.apple.com and the directory
is dts/mac/sc

-- 
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ray@netcom.com                 than lies."  -- Friedrich Nietszsche
From: jtarr@husc8.harvard.edu (Jeff Tarr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Macsbug and Quadras - need a working version
Summary: MAcsbug doesn't work on my Quadra
Keywords: MACSBUG QUADRA
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:46:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.jtarr.727602384

The latest version of Macsbug (6.2.2) doesn't work well with my Quadra.
It seems that sometimes it does, and usually it doesn't.  It causes my
system to crash right at startup.  I seem to recall something about Macsbug
not flushing the cache, or possibly flushing it at the wrong time.  Does
anyone have a version that works with the Quadra, or any suggestions as to how
to get this one to work?

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: law40003@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN YEW KEONG)
Subject: Legal Advice
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:00:24 GMT



I am a final year law student planning to specialise in law regarding
all aspects of computing. I am computer literate and will be able to
understand most computer jargon except highly technical subjects like
Huffman coding etc.

If you have any legal problems or queries, post to me, and I will
endeavour to give free advice as far as possible.

It will be good practice for me, and free legal advice for you.

Disclaimer :

I will not be liable for any prosecution, both civil and criminal,
arising in any way connected to my giving the advice, whether it may be
your reliance on my advice, or my advice leading to criminal behaviour.
No one should interpret my advice as conclusive, and my advice is given
in the same manner as suggestions, and I do not profess any expert
knowledge on the advice I give. I disclaim responsibility for any losses
you incur by relying on my advice, and if any advice I give is illegal,
let it be known that I have no knowledge of collaboration with any
criminal.

I wonder if this disclaimer works, but it sure sounds legal. But I mean
all this mumbo jumbo, and if my drafting skills leave much to be
desired, read it in spirit, not in form.
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From: intolabb@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Intolubbe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Futurebasic
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:02:39 GMT
Reply-To: intolabb@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Intolubbe)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


    I have been using Z-basic since 1986 (I think) when it was version4
and upgraded to 5.01 and recently Futurebasic.  When I first got
Z-basic, it was much better than Micrsoft basic and has always had
full toolbox support (although sometimes it was not clear how to
exactly mesh Inside Macintosh Pascalian calls with Z-basic equivalents).
Futuebasicc has a much improved editor, showing function lists and
variable lists as well as an on-line help which is basically the
manual.  Futurebasic includes the Program Generator which lets you
graphically (Macdraw-like) "draw" the user interface windows, buttons,
edit fields, etc.  It also allows you to embed assembly code right
in your basic code by prefacing each mnemonic with the "backwards"
apostaphe (the key to the left of the "1" key).  I haven't seen
any microsoft basics lately, but from what I've readd here,
Futurebasic seems to be a more complete development environment
thatt provides full system 7 support (Quiktime,Apple events,
Ballon help) as well as building INITs, CDEVs, and DRVRs.

				       Hope this helps decide
				       on a BASIC

				       Steve

ps: general post because I forgot who the original poster was.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: jbh@feenix.metronet.com (Justin B Harvey)
Subject: Creating Mac Windows on Think C 4.0
Organization: Texas Metronet Communications Services, Dallas TX
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:20:35 GMT

Can someone please email me some routines on programming and creating
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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Why the Piracy? Here's why...
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:00:33 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <tal691.727611521@huxley> (comp.sys.mac.programmer), tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
> 
> Look, musicians get royalties on their CDs, but not on illegal recordings
> of their CDs. 

Actually I believe they do.  There is some sort of surtax levied on
blank cassettes that flows into ASCAP(?) to compensate the artists.

This compensates them for people making personal recordings of CDs
onto cassettes.  Bootleg tapes are another animal all together.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: tiirola@polaris.utu.fi (Timo Iirola)
Subject: How do programs support joysticks?
Organization: University of Turku
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:19:52 GMT

Hi,

I'd like to know how programs support joysticks, in other words, what does
for example Gravis Mousestick send to the Mac? And where does the data go?
And how are the routines that read joysticks? Especially I'm interested
in non-ADB joysticks (Mac Plus).

Thank you for your answers,

Timo

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte)
Subject: Re: mac microkernel
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:02:59 GMT

In <aaron-270193074937@fpm-mac-17.uchicago.edu> aaron@noproblem.uchicago.edu (Aaron L. Bratcher) writes:

>Is there anyone from Apple that can tell us what the status of the
>mircokernel for the mac is? Will it work on my current mac with System 7?
>Is the threads product still supported? Will threading on the microkernel
>use the same functions as the threads package?

Luckily I haven't received any non-disclosure material on this
yet, so I can guess publicly:

- Working on it (still a ways to go)
- Sort of (i e if it requires a system software upgrade, the
  system software will be included with the upgrade)
- Not more than it is today (It relies on standard C
  constructs, for creating cooperative threads)
- No


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  "From now on I will re-label the EQ on the deck as Fizz and Wobble
   instead of HF and LF."
From: REEKES@applelink.apple.com (Jim Reekes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: bg-only, stack size
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:39:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1jplelINNt88@shelley.u.washington.edu>, stevep@wrq.com (Steve
Poole) wrote:
> 
> Can anyone offer an explanation of what happens differently for background-
> only applications where the stack is concerned? My bg-only app comes up with
> a 2K stack -- not enough! Clearing the bg-only bit brings it up with 24K
> of stack. I've tried increasing the stack size by using SetApplLimit with 
> the address of the stack base - desired stack size, which seems to work fine 
> iff the bg-only bit isn't set. MemError isn't being set in either case.
> Help!
> 
> Is there ANY documentation on bg-only besides the few words in the process
> manager docs? I'd appreciate pointers to anything! Thanks.

There is a Tech Note or Q&A item from MacDTS about this. Faceless
background only applications will only get a 2k stack by default, since
most of the stack that's used is required for QuickDraw. Faceless tasks by
definition don't use QuickDraw and there for the Process Manager (and even
the older MultiFinder) only allocates a 2k stack for them. Back/White
QuickDraw machines get an 8k stack whereas color machines get a 24k stack.
These numbers are subject to change, so don't depend on them.

If you need to increase the stack, increase it for the amount you need.
Don't assume you know what the default stack size is.

Background only applications work just like regular apps. They just don't
use QuickDraw. (e.g. don't call InitWindows, etc.) There's also a Tech Note
or Q&A item about how to increase the stack and it works for any type of
application.

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From: mkelly@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Michael A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: C.S.M.P. Digest V2 #6 Available
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:53:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1993Jan27.115309.27647
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.


C.S.M.P. Digest             Wed, 27 Jan 93       Volume 2 : Issue 6

Today's Topics:

	Driving mac program from another
	Detecting reboot or startup
	Software control of landscape/not landscape
	Preloading ALL code segments...?



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