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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Happiness is...Shearing the Sheep
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:33:09 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

(Late) Rangers MAtch Report

Rangers 3 Aberdeen 1, 29 August  1992 Ibrox

Scorers : Rangers_ Durrant, McCoist and Miko
          Aberdeen_Aitken

Attendance : 41 000

	Well it looks like the bad old days ala Alex Ferguson have
returned to the Sheep Pen. Aberdeen are back to the side who used to kick,
moan, intimidate referees and basically cause so much bad feeling. Wille 
Miller has now replaced Fergie whilst Roy Aitken has replaced Miller as a 
moaning b*&^%$#.  Basically the first half was terrible with neither team 
deserving to be in front, but Aberdeen managed to sneak a goal through
Roy the Dunkey. It was a reasonable goal from one of so little skill
but the lead up did include a clear foul on McPherson by Paitelianan. 
The second half was a complete transformation by Rangers with Huistra and
Miko on the wings and Durrant played through the middle rather than being 
wasted on the right. Rangers eventaully  equalised thro' Durrant after
a 1-2 with lazy bastard Miko and hit a low shot into the net. Next goal
came from SAlly who raced clear of the very static  Irvine
and  actually beat Snelders
 instead of blootering it over the bar. The final goal came from Miko. 
In between times Sheep Shearer was ordered off for a second bookable 
offence. He showed he's not such a good player after all after being
completely outplayed by GOugh and Bomber. There were numerous other bookingd
in a match which was badly refereed by McGinlay, including the ordering to
the stand  of assistant manager Archie Knox. The behaviour  of some  of the
Sheep was a disgrace particularly that of ROy Aitken who should have walked.
STill 2 points in the bag and an impressive showing by Ian Durrant  who helped
to destroy them in the second half. He was taunted "Simmie, Simmie" by the
sheep fans in the first half but showed the sickos how the game should be
played. Best for Rangers were Gough, Brown, Durrant and Huistra in patches.

Rangers Team:: Goram, McPherson, Robertson, Gough, Brown, Ferguson, Spackman,
Durrant, Huistra, Miko, McCoist.


-- 
Sandy Mackinnon
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: cheu@neptune.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Re: Spurs 92-93 schedule???
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Reply-To: cheu@neptune.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:19:15 GMT

In article <cbrasted.715489822@adelphi>, cbrasted@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Charles Brasted) writes:
|> >>>You guys keep reminding me of the good old days of spurs when Ray
|> >>>Clemence, Ardiles, Ricky Villa, Glenn Hoddle, Gary Crooks, Clive Allen,
|> >>>Waddle etc were around at White Hart Lane.
|> >>
|> >>Just curious.......... did these guys win a league, FA, or any other title. I
|> >>always hear "the good old days" but i can't recall any titles.
|> 
|> >Franni
|> 
|> Just curious ... who are you comparing them with.  In the last few years Spurs
|> have won an FA cup, had long cup runs in the Littlewoods/Rumbelows cup and
|> last season they were the most successful British club in Europe.  This, by
|> their standards is a poor few years.  But compared to the majority of other
|> teams in the English league, it is more than many of them have achieved in the
|> last 50 years.  It was generally accepted for most of the 60's and 70's and
|> early eighties that Spurs would be challenging for all of the major titles,
|> which were the "good old days"  and so now we are going through a 'lean
|> spell'.  I don't have any exact facts with me now, but I am sure Spurs have
|> won more domestic cups than any others team in England.
|> 
|> Cheers
|> Charles
|>   

The "good old days", I mean, is not only the results that they had, but
in addition, their entertaining style of play. These are what I found 
most entertaining:

- the mid-field and forward always lunched attack after attack
- the goalie, an Yugoslavian, always missed the ball until Ray Clemence
	joined the club
- Steve Alchibald, the forward, always fumbled in front of the goal
- the long pass of Glenn Hoddle

Their style of play has since changed a lot, after the departure of
Ardiles and than Hoddle.  I can't distinguish their style of play from
a normal British clud nowadays.

Kelvin
From: bruce@tcom.stc.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Come on you Spurs????
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:17:28 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.

In article <1992Aug28.134148.2056@sbil.co.uk> nt81657@doggy2.sbil.co.uk writes:
>In article 714745604@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au, frank@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (Frank Savaglio) writes:
>>Its going to be a long long long season for we Spurs supporters.
>> >Sigh<
>
>You are right. 
>
>I thought we (Coventry) were in for a long struggle. At least you've got Teddy to
>bolster you falutering forward line. Has Darren Anderton played yet?

Anderton has played in all four games. In the Coventry game he hardly had
a touch of the ball and looked very nervous. In the Palace game there
were signs of improved confidence and a willingness to run at defenders.
It's still too early to make a judgement on him though.

-- 
Bruce Munro.  <bruce@tcom.stc.co.uk> || ...!mcsun!uknet!stc!bruce
BNR Europe Ltd, Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB. 
Phone : +44 81 945 2174 or +44 81 945 4000 x2174
"There are no strangers, only friends we don't recognise" - Hank Wangford
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Anyone want to write a program?
Date: 2 Sep 1992 09:18:18 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Reading all these excellent postings from Karel, I just come to wonder...

Anyone feeling he wants to write a program (I don't think it's too complicated,
but I have definitely not the time for it).

What shall the program do:
1. Read in a result file of Karel's format.
2. Then compiling the table and write it out in a nice format.

Now, we are just waiting for the volunteer....

Kent
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| Dept. of Computer Science | France and Sweden for the WC'94!                |
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               "It's always good to talk soccer!" - Marco Petroni
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Norway-Sweden, friendly
Date: 30 Aug 1992 09:34:42 -0500
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Martin commented on the "probable" change in playing style of the Swedish team.
Well, I don't think Tommy Svensson will change format at a critical time
as this. Otherwise the natural choice as libero would be Thern, but, since
he is playing midfield in the club team it's nothing to test, you need
to play libero a lot to be good at it.

Sweden have to be favourite to winning the group with France totally out of 
confidence and Bulgaria weak on the road. The Bulgarians will be tough in
Sofia, though.

Kent
-- 
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
| Kent Hedlundh             | Les Girondins - Champions de D2 1992!           |
| Dept. of Computer Science | France and Sweden for the WC'94!                |
| University of Umea        | All the best for my friends teams!              |
| S-90187 UMEA     SWEDEN   | E-Mail: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se     IP: 130.239.96.17  |
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               "It's always good to talk soccer!" - Marco Petroni
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Real Madrid - Ajax 
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:46:56 GMT

Last tuesday Ajax played a friendly game against Real Madrid and
this game was broadcasted on Sportnet. This was the last friendly
game for Real before the start of the Spanish League next saturday.
Real has to play against Barcelona in Barcelona. Last night's game 
was very bad for the self confidence of Real. Ajax showed Real all 
corners of the pitch and won by 3-1. The first two goals were made
by Bergkamp and they were of superb class and these goals were certainly
double the transfer fee Ajax will get at the end of the season for
Bergkamp. In the second half Real scored from a penalty which was certainly
a present from the referee. The penalty was converted by Michel. Davids
finaly made the third goal for Ajax. And what surprised me was that he made
the sign of the cross after scoring that goal.  I though this was the only
the habit of US athletes+Nellie Coman+Maradona+Romario. I felt ashamed. 
  The only thing Real did very well was making serious fouls. They were
very lucky that only Proscineki was sent off. And that was even after
showing his spanish vocubalary to the referee. For me it was
a real enjoyable games and I felt really sorry to see the Royal Real
fallen so deep. I will cost them a lot of coaches to get on the level
where they belong.

louis kossen
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jussi@lut.fi (Jussi Salminen)
Subject: Finnish League, 26th round
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:52:32 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland



	Finnish League, 26th round, 30th August:

FC Oulu		2-1	Jaro		(1-0)		1 005
35. Wieslaw Wraga	89. Kim Suominen
89. Sami Vaisanen

FC Ilves	2-3	FC Jazz		(0-2)		2 812
68. Petri Ojala		17. Luis Antonio
88. Gotsha Geboutshava  43. Petri Toivonen
     (pen)              77. Antonio

KuPS		1-6	FC Kuusysi	(1-3)		1 263
14. Markus Rasanen	 8. Juha Annunen
			25. Kalle Lehtinen
			44. Jarmo Saastamoinen
			76. Jari Sulander
			78. Sulander
			83. Sulander

MP		1-3	HJK		(0-1)		1 263
89. Jari Hudd		26. Aki Hyrylainen
			69. Jari Vanhala
			82. Vanhala

RoPS		0-4	MyPa		(0-2)		1 733
			 1. Jukka Koskinen
			32. Yrjo Happonen
			74. Janne Lindberg
			88. Koskinen

TPS		0-1	FC Haka		(0-0)		2 121
			71. Juha Lahtinen



Table:
                             GP    W   T   L    GF     GA     PTS

 1.  FC Kuusysi (Lahti)      26   17   2   7    46     28      53
 2.  FC Jazz (Pori)          26   15   7   4    52     33      52
 3.  HJK (Helsinki)          26   15   4   7    49     32      49
 4.  MyPa (Myllykoski)       26   13   7   6    46     19      46
 5.  Jaro (Pietarsaari)      26   11   6   9    36     31      39
 6.  RoPS (Rovaniemi)        26   11   4  11    45     39      37
 7.  FC Haka (Valkeakoski)   26   10   5  11    30     44      35
 8.  TPS (Turku)             26    8   7  11    24     28      31
 9.  FC Ilves (Tampere)      26    8   4  14    38     43      28
10.  KuPS (Kuopio)           26    6   6  14    28     46      24
----------------------------------------------------------------------
11.  FC Oulu                 26    7   3  16    31     55      24
======================================================================
12.  MP (Mikkeli)            26    6   3  17    21     48      21


Top goalscorers:

19: Luis Antonio (FC Jazz)
18: Ismo Lius (HJK)
12: Mauri Keskitalo (MyPa)
11: Kimmo Tarkkio (FC Kuusysi), Jukka Turunen (MyPa) and
    Stuart Beards (RoPS)
10: Saku Laaksonen (FC Jazz) and Jari Vanhala (HJK)
 9: Ari Hjelm (FC Ilves), Ari Tegelberg (RoPS),
    and Marko Rajamaki (TPS)
 8: Kai Nyyssonen (FC Haka) and Paul Lindholm (Jaro)



	Next matches 3rd September: FC Haka-MP, HJK-FC Oulu, Jaro-KuPS,
				    FC Jazz-RoPS, FC Kuusysi-FC Ilves,
				    MyPa-TPS

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.celtic
From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Irish football results
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:20:57 GMT

--
    
    Castlebar Celtic brought forward their kickoff to 2pm to avoid clashing
    with the game in TV.  They have excellent facilities and their bar made
    quite a killing as most of the crowd headed for the bar at full time
    just in time to see the kick off at Anfield.  In fact many fans watched
    our game from the bar with one eye on SKY's preview.
    
    Anyway Limerick strolled to a 2-0 win without ever really been tested. 
    David Minihan scored after 20 minutes following a neat passing move and
    Howard King made the game safe early in the second half when he scored
    from the goal line after Johnny Walsh hit the inside of the post.  King
    missed 2 more glorious chances as Castlebar were outclassed.  Still we
    need to improve a lot if we're going to threaten Derry next Sunday. 
    Despite the strong temptation to stay in the bar with everyone else I
    managed to resist and headed back home and got the second half on TV
    
    results
    
    Group A
    
    Cobh 1 Waterford 2
    Kilkenny 0 Cork 4  (Cork need to beat Cobh to qualify otherwise
    Waterord go through)
    
    Group B
    
    Castlebar 0 Limerick 2 Limerick qualify.
    Longford 1 Galway 0 latest score
    
    Group C
    
    Finn Harps 0 Derry 4
    Sligo 5 Fanad 0  (Derry qualify and Sligo will probably join them)
    
    Not sure of the numbers for the other groups
    
    Shelbourne 5 St James Gate 0
    UCD v Bohs playing tonight  Shels through barring a miracle and Bohs
    should join them if they win tonight.
    
    
    St Pats 2 Bray 1
    Shamrock Rvs 1 Home Farm 0  St Pats qualify.
    
    Monaghan 0 Dundalk 0
    Drogheda 1 Athlone 1 Drogheda qualify.
    
    
    More details when I have them.  Bad crowds all round with Liverpool v
    Arsenal proving too much of a counter attraction.  Clubs really need
    floodlights if we're going to compete with this all season.  Channel 4
    will also be showing live Italian football.
    
    

|---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |

          U.S.A. here we come

          God thinks he's Jackie Charlton

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.celtic
From: th12@ellis.uchicago.edu (Paul T.H. Ho)
Subject: Re: Glorious start by dwarves ?!
Reply-To: th12@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:53:19 GMT


In article <123@bjcong.bj.co.uk> carl@bjcong.bj.co.uk (CARL NANCOLLAS) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.080156.29266@pony.Ingres.COM>, arc@Ingres.COM (Andy Cowling) writes:
>> 
>> Yeah and Howard's bought a lot of dwarves for their recent startling
>> lack of success.  And please don'r retort with their glorious start to
>> this campaign.  Last year they beat Arse 3-1 early on and their season
>> was over by February.
>
>With recent signings Paul Rideout, Barry Horne and the one and only 'Preki'
>Everton look set to re-kindle their Great Success of the Mid 80's.
>
>Having sat through some pretty dreadful matches over the past few seasons
>it brings great happiness to all the Goodison Faithfull to see such a
>convincing start to the new campaign.
>
>Everton have got the basis of a great team.  Kendall is dealing with the fine
>tuning, desperately keen to match the very best once more.  He has got a sound
>defence with in goal a man who remains one of Europes top keepers, the
>supremely talented Neville Southall.  In Midfield is one of the great 
>entertainer Peter Beardsley who in his first season at Goodison scored 20
>goals, his best ever return in the top flight. Up front is were Everton have
>lacked fire power over the past seasons but with new boys Paul Rideout and
>Mo Johnston I am sure the goals will come.
>
>Could we have more Everton supporters (If there are any out there) on the NET
>
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Here I am, a loyal Evertonian! And I know that there are many Toffee fans
on the net, who seldom post.

After the dismal starts in the past few seasons, the Toffees have finally
managed to start well this season. With 2 wins and 2 draws so far, and a
likely win this weekend against the Dons, we could well get to the top of 
the table. At last Kendall understands that the most important thing is to
find a way of getting his team together, rather than spending the big bucks
buying "useful" players.

I am glad to see that a lot of enthusiastic readers post detailed match
reports this season (the Owls, Spurs, Rangers, Man united, Man City, etc).
Those guys really give us expats in the states lots of fun. I really hope
that you great guys can keep up with this tremendous effort.

BTW, could some Evretonians out ther post the Toffees' match reports?
I'd really appreciate that.


-- 
Paul
Internet: th12@midway.uchicago.edu
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Subject: Re: New FIFA Goalkeeper Rule
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:42:48 +0000







In <92238.154817PHOLDING@ESOC.BITNET> (Phil Holding) writes:

>In respose to the question relating to heading the ball back to the 'keeper,
>my understanding is that the new FIFA directive is yet to be enforced which
>means players may still pass the ball back at least by heading it (cite the
>FA Premier League match last night : S'ton Vs MUFC as example of when it
>happened several times). I'm not sure of using knees, or other parts of a
>player's anatomy ;-) !

>Does anyone have any info. relating to when this is to be banned ?

and in <9208261229.AA27316@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> jzeevi@swri.edu (josef) writes

>        This one's easy. The only time the keeper can pick up the ball is when
>the opposition last touched it.
>        OK, now for the exceptions : a deflected ball from a teammate (a
>teammate attempts to block a shot, the ball still goes to the keeper). A
>normal play that the keeper grabs. (say, a corner kick that a teammate heads
>and the keeper comes and grabs)
>       The basic point is, if a teammate plays (foot or otherwise) a ball to
>the keeper and the keeper picks it up, an IFK will be awarded. FIFA very
>strongly wants this kind of time-wasting to dissappear. Remember, the keeper's
>priviledge of picking up the ball was originally added to prevent goals.
>Period. (Sigh...)
>        By the Way : if a teammate flicks the ball to his or a teammates head
>in order to play the ball to the keeper, that person shall be cautioned.
>(circumventing the laws of the game)

A lot of people still seem confused about what the new rule and the FIFA
directive on backpassing says.

The rule is very simple - if a player deliberately *kicks* the ball back to
his goalkeeper then the goalkeeper can't handle it. You can head it, chest
it, knee it or throw it (from a throw-in!) to the goalkeeper as part of normal
play *but* the FIFA directive states that if you try and circumvent the rules
by flicking the ball in the air and heading it then you will be cautioned.

THERE IS NO BAN ON BACKPASSING BY HEADING ETC, ONLY ON CONTRIVED HEADING
DESIGNED TO CIRCUMVENT THE BAN ON KICKED BACKPASSES.

Personally, I'd like to see the rule changed to allow a backpass by a player
in the penalty area when he is under pressure from an opponent, in this
situation a pass back is may well be the only option and is certainly not
an attempt at time-wasting.

James M. Ross

(j.m.ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk)
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: It's not my fault!
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:15:14 GMT

Gene Schwartzman's posting bashes referee's - odd, he claims to be one....

However, Gene, you are correct there are some idiots out there as referee's, 
but then again, I know several honest players, as well. Does that mean ALL 
players attempt to cheat? Heavens no. But your statements imply that ALL 
referees are bozos.

I find those statements to be quite classless. If you have a problem with 
refereeing in your area, for heavens sake, DO SOMETHING! Contact your state 
association, contact local assessors, get up off your butt and TAKE ACTION! 
DON'T JUST SIT AROUND AND BITCH! In an earlier post, you had complained (in a 
very roundabout way) about not having the badge to go with your reported 
expertise. From your comments, I suspect that your position on some of these 
issues may very well have been a factor in your lack of upgrade....

Just my opinion/observations.....

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mazzam@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mohammad Azzam)
Subject: German results
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:38:35 GMT

VfB Stuttgart       - Karlsruher SC       2-1 (0-0)
Borussia Dortmund   - 1.FC K'Lautern      1-0 (0-0)
Bayern Muenchen     - Dynamo Dresden      3-1 (0-0)
Werder Bremen       - Vfl Bochum          3-1 (3-1)
1.FC Nuernberg      - Bayer Leverkusen    0-1 (0-1)
1.FC Saarbruecken   - Schalke 04          1-3 (1-0)
Wattenscheid 09     - Eintracht Frankfurt 1-2 (1-0)
1.FC Koeln          - Hamburger SV        2-2 (1-0)
Borussia M'Gladbach - Bayer Uerdingen     0-4 (0-3)


Tabelle

Platz  Mannschaft           Spiele  Tore  Punkte

 1.    Bayern Muenchen        3      7-1    6-0
 2.    Bayer Leverkusen       4      7-2    6-2
 3.    Eintracht Frankfurt    3      4-2    5-1
 4.    Borussia Dortmund      4      5-4    5-3
 5.    VfB Stuttgart          4      6-6    5-3
 6.    Karlsruher SC          4     10-8    4-4
 7.    Schalke 04             4      9-7    4-4
 8.    VfL Bochum             4      8-6    4-4
 9.    1.FC K'Lautern         4      5-3    4-4
10.    Dynamo Dresden         4      6-5    4-4
11.    Werder Bremen          4      6-7    4-4
12.    Uerdingen 05           4      5-6    3-5
13.    Hamburger SV           4      4-5    3-5
14.    Wattenscheid 09        4      7-10   3-5
15.    1.FC Nuernberg         4      1-4    3-5
16.    1.FC Saarbruecken      4      4-8    3-5
17.    Borussia M'Gladbach    4      5-10   3-5
18.    1.FC Koeln             4      2-7    1-5

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