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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: Rotating troff 90 degrees?
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:48:01 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Oct15.045909.5420@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>In <3886@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct13.231351.7960@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>>>However, can you suggest where I might find something like "grap"?

>>Your existing grap should work fine with groff.

>How about if I don't have an existing grap?

I thought you said you had ditroff.  If you don't, you're going to have
to buy one then.
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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: Rotating troff 90 degrees?
Keywords: troff rotation
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:57:10 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Oct6.211220.20566@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>I'm in need of being able to rotate a table and graph 90 degrees.
>Is there any way to do this in troff?

This isn't really "standard troff" functionality.  However, if you
can generate postscript (particularly an EPS) from the table or graph,
most versions of troff will allow you to include this postscript
in your document.  That is, if you're driving postscript.
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Newsgroups: comp.text
From: hfaester@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hannes Faestermann)
Subject: Re: PS ---> EPS converter?
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:27:41 GMT

rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:

>	Anyone know of/have a decent PS--->EPS converter?
>(ie. take PostScript files, look at the code, determine a boundingbox
>then write out the PS file in EPS format with the %%BoundingBox: line
>included and the page stuff filtered out).

There is a pstoepsi package available from export.lcs.mit.edu
which should suit your needs.

	Hannes

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Newsgroups: comp.text
From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Re: Rotating troff 90 degrees?
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:59:09 GMT

In <3886@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:

>In article <1992Oct13.231351.7960@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>>However, can you suggest where I might find something like "grap"?

>Your existing grap should work fine with groff.

How about if I don't have an existing grap?

ACS
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From: brianc@cgl.ucsf.edu (Brian Colfer)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: WordPerfect 5.1 text
Summary: request for bibliography
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:18:51 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Can everyone send me the title of  their favorite WordPerfect book?



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From: lmg@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Lisa Gullicksen)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:19:22 GMT
Subject: FAQ list?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf

Hi,
I've just learned of this newsgroup and have some questions.

Is there a FAQ (frequently asked questions) list for the newsgroup?

Does Interleaf 4.0 have a way to count words per paragraph
or the number of words in a selected range of text?

Is Interleaf available on for the Mac?  the Apple Powerbook 145?
the new IBM color-screen powerbook?  What does it cost for these versions?

Lisa Gullicksen
lmg@cup.hp.com
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: problems with *huge* templates...
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:20:27 GMT
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353

Hi.

We have a template document with a really large number of component,
frame, and etc. masters, and the people using it have started crashing
frequently.  (The same people don't have any trouble with less
complicated templates.)  Is there a (practical) limit on the number of
masters you can have in a document?  (We're running 5.3 on Sun SPARCs.)

TIA.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: vannes@srzts304.alcatel.ch (Tom van Nes)
Subject: Printing Problem
Reply-To: thomas.vannes@alcatel.ch
Organization: Alcatel STR AG Switzerland
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:11:42 GMT

Printing from Interleaf was not a major Problem. But
now it is because a new output filter was installed
on our printserver. This filter is definitely better
than the old one, but it is also too clever.

Interleaf creates 2 files which are placed in
the spool directory of the printserver. Example:

   cfA026rlab
   dfA026rlab

The control file and the file (postscript) itself.
The control file contains a line which was ignored
by the old filter, while the new filter says it is
an offending command. The line:

   S1823 70839l

The control file:

   Hrlab
   Pvannes
   JFAX_2_ITC_ps#1
   Crlab
   Lvannes
   S1823 70839l
   fdfA026rlab
   UdfA026rlab
   U/home/vannes/desktop/.deskprint/FAX_2_ITC_ps#1
   N/home/vannes/desktop/.deskprint/FAX_2_ITC_ps#1

If I remove the line and place the 2 files in the
spool directory, the document gets printed! Or if

How can I get rid of the line?
or
How do I filter the line?
or
What do I do?


Tom van Nes



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From: wargopl@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Peter L. Wargo)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Wordcount??
Summary: Is there a wordcount LISP script for ileaf5?
Keywords: wordcount,interleaf,question
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:07:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: sun.wargopl.718484869
Organization: Clarkson University


Is there a LISP script around that will do a wordcount on an Interleaf
document?  Our foreign translators charge by the word, and I need to
give them an estimate...

-Pete

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: dalight@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David Lightman)
Subject: Re: index creation
Summary: Is available somewhere!
Keywords: Index creation application
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:24:48 GMT


I attended ICON in the US last april and heard in one of the developers sessions
that someone had written such an application and/or just lisp scripts to do
this (I want it to!), but I wasn't able to meet up with the guy at ICON.

I checked on LeafLine (Interleafs bbs (not very user friendly)), but no luck
so I'm hoping that the person is on the net and reads this or somebody has more
info on this ellusive application, but at least we KNOW one exists.

(disclaim-usual)   ; Dave
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: dalight@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David Lightman)
Subject: Re: Table Summing and Sorting
Summary: lisp scripts available
Keywords: table summing sorting lisp scripts
Organization: The Great Beyond
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:49:08 GMT


> In Article 744 of comp.text.interleaf:
> lam@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Lam_Ha) writes:

> I am looking for a Lisp program that will allow me to sum up a column or row
> in a table.  Along the same line, how about sorting a row or column.

I have some code that you want, the first is from the Leafline (interleaf's bbs)
and is a simple lisp script which sorts the column in assecending ascii, basic
but a good start.

Second is some lisp scripts I wrote to sum a column (sorry haven't done rows),
along with changing the attributes of row components based on a value you enter
(simple database query idea)  I'll email it to you, but it will be a couple of
days as I'm having some hardware problems and can't get to the files right now. If interest warrents I'll post it to.

> ... Ileaf bulletin board ... didn't know the modem setup.
>  the number is 617-290-4996.

Modem setup is 8/1/None, but I believe you have to be on an interleaf maint.
contract in order to use, as the first time you call you are asked for you name
and contract (maybe the sales contract is enough) and then they verify it and
then allow you access.  The only problem I have with that system is its not a
real bbs system, it has upload and dowload sections where files stay instead of a single upload place and then the download sect, which has no descriptions for the files unless someone includes a text file to go with there upload.  On top of all that there are probably only 30 or so files.  It should be an ftp site, if
they had someone there that could set it up right.


(disclaim-usual)  ; Dave
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: sehamb01@vulcan.spd.louisville.edu (Steve Hamburg)
Subject: Incorporating case in component properties
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:22:45 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

I was wondering if you could set up the properties of a paragraph in such a
way that you can make the text being typed in the document area appear as
upper case.  

Thanks-

Steve Hamburg.
sehamb01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
From: ram@cs.umb.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: FAQ list?
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:03:09 GMT
Reply-To: ram@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <2700003@hpindda.cup.hp.com> lmg@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Lisa Gullicksen) writes:
Path: news.cs.umb.edu!hsdndev!think.com!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hplextra!hpcc05!hpcuhb!hpda!hpcss01!hpindda!lmg
   From: lmg@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Lisa Gullicksen)
   Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
   Date: 9 Oct 92 00:19:22 GMT
   Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
   Lines: 13

   Hi,
   I've just learned of this newsgroup and have some questions.

   Is there a FAQ (frequently asked questions) list for the newsgroup?


I'm the self-proclaimed coordinator of a small group which is working
on (well, perhaps talking about...) an FAQ list. Due to everyone's
schedules, realistically I guess it will be a month or more before
it's ready for circulation of a draft here for comment and addition.
Anyone else working on an FAQ might send me email so we don't
duplicate efforts.


   Does Interleaf 4.0 have a way to count words per paragraph
   or the number of words in a selected range of text?

[Uninformed opinion: probably not. I posted an Interleaf 5 Lisp word
counter here recently. I'll be surprised if 4.0 Lisp supports such a
scheme, and also surprised if it has enough Lisp power to solve the
problem. The underlying issue is that there are a lot of things in a
document besides words: font changes, structural information,
graphics, etc. So I'll be further surprised if a non-Lisp solution
exists short of converting to ascii, stripping markup and using unix
utilities. But then, I'm surprised that someone is still using 4.0.
Gee, Interleaf is full of surprises.... ;-) ].


   Is Interleaf available on for the Mac?  the Apple Powerbook 145?
   the new IBM color-screen powerbook?  What does it cost for these versions?

[Uninformed politically correct impression: not in 5.x, which is what
one should desire. But I'll bet they're working on it and for all I
know might be muttering about it at trade shows. Anyone hear anything
at Seybold?]

   Lisa Gullicksen
   lmg@cup.hp.com

Bob Morris
ram@cs.umb.edu
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: active doc toolkit
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:21:27 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353

Hello, world.

Does anybody know of a package that would let me build active
documents like the Profile Tool and the Keyboard Tool?  What I would
like to do is make a Lisp structure and call a function to construct and
open a document, interact with the user, and return the values entered
when the document was closed.  For example, if I wanted an active doc
to ask for the user's name and age, I might do this:

(active-doc (list (active-text-field :title "Name:"
                                     :help "Please type your name between \
                                            the brackets")
				  (active-int-field :title "Age:")))

Thanks,
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  = dave@gcosaka.goldcoast.co.jp        but mine is really ... bossy.  =
P =      gold coast productions                       l. anderson      = P
  =      4-2-9 kyutaro-cho 3f                                          =
F =      chuo-ku, osaka japan 541                                      = F
============[country code 81]=vox:6-241-6353=fax:6-241-0189===============
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Subject: Re: Rotating text .... Ignore lasr Msg
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:04:24 GMT

OK, I admit it.  I'm an idiot.  Ignpore the last post asking
how to rotate (Someone else tried to follow the directions and said
we could not rotate things on our system.... I believed him.
Maybe he didn't select it first)




Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Line Feed/Return swap???
Keywords: Keyboard Return Key
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:23:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.113024.8950@hemlock.cray.com> ss@tamarack16.cray.com (Sandra Swanson) writes:
>
>Does anyone know how to swap the functionality of the Return
>and Line Feed keys so one can use Return at the end of a
>paragraph instead of stopping & looking for Line Feed?  I
>for one find having to use the Line Feed key a real pain.

I don't use the LF key, but I'm more of an admin than a user.
On Suns, (type 4 keyboard), LF is just underneath RETURN, so
it seems simple enough.

You might be able to use xmodmap to change your keyboard mappings.
Note that this will change them for everything, not just ileaf.
I have an example I wrote that uses xmodmap to set up a Sun Type4
keyboard so that VMS users can use EDT's keypad editing "features"
from an xterm window.  I can email it to you if you want, or post
if I hear some shouting from the rest of you (though I hesitate
since it's not specific to ileaf).  Let me know.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
Subject: Re: Printing Problem
Originator: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:52:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.200731.942@draco.macsch.com> todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
>Just as Interleaf creates non-standard printcap files (which contain
>fields like "printerleaf=..."), Interleaf also creates non-standard
>lpd spooler files.

Naah, they just use stupid options.  What you're seeing is the result
of using the -s option to lpr (which doesn't work across the network
with stock BSD lpr).  This is defined in
/interleaf/ileaf5/lisp/port/bsd-printing.lsp:
    (if (not (string-equal *port-name* "apollo"))
       (push "-s" args))               ;use symbolic link

Why it's special-cased for Apollos, I can't imagine.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: TPS 4.0 and sun type 5 keyboard
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:26:45 GMT

todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
> yilmazer@alcatel.co.at (Sedat Yilmazer) writes:
> > I have type us_5 keyboard on my sun4 station.
> Try 'ileaf -keyboard none'.
> Hey Interleaf- I guess it's time for a -keyboard sun_type 5 option, huh?

Interleaf has informed me that support for the type 5 keyboard is on the
patch tape, "which should be shipping any day now".

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Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: lamothe@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Josee Lamothe)
Subject: Interleaf 5.3 PPD file for QMS 815
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:41:08 GMT

Thanks in advance for any help.

Does somebody have a PPD file for QMS 815 printer that I can use in
Interleaf 5.3?

Thank again
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Interleaf PS/EPS Ponderance
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:14:06 GMT

In article <EDDIEB.92Oct7163330@cliff.ERC.MsState.Edu> eddieb@ERC.MsState.Edu (Eddie Brown) writes:
>
>We've been using Interleaf for several years now and our number one
>problem has been making Interleaf's "PostScript" output print
>properly. It was a minor nuisance with the old Apple printers and then
>it became a big problem when we went to Sun SPARCprinters and
>NewsPrint. Most of the problems were solved with some sort of patch,
>upgrade, or kludge, but, there has always been things that you
>"should" be able to do with the output, that you can do with
>PostScript from other applications, but not Interleaf. We just
>upgraded to Interleaf 5.3 and I decided to try and export a document
>page from Interleaf into another package using the EPS file option.
>Of course, it didn't work. None of the other applications will take
>the Interleaf EPS, yet they can exchange EPS files back and forth and
>Interleaf will accept EPS from the applications.
>
>All of which brings me to the question, is there something
>non-standard/funky/incorrect about Interleaf "PostScript" output or is
>there just something wrong with the universe?

Yes and Yes.
Interleaf PostScript output is really ugly, but I think it has been
improving a little lately (that's what I've heard).  Do you have the
right PPD files?  We've only ever had minor problems here....well,
except for one or two bad ones, like the '/mark 0 def' in 5.3.
Old apple printers are very simple and therefore VERY robust.  I have
one sitting around as the standard for debugging printing problems.

Ever look at WordDefect PS output?  Now *that's* ugly.

Sorry I'm not much help.  Make sure you have the proper PPD's, and have
your printers set up properly from ileaf.  Maybe run pl2ps -v by hand,
to look for any warnings.

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Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: tcrook@u.cc.utah.edu (Tom Crook)
Subject: Change/Configuration Control in Interleaf: What's needed?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 14:07:25 GMT

We need to track changes to multiple revisions of documents where I work.  
We had used Mentor Graphics' Doc and PicEd products and are hoping
to get a similar level of change control in whatever replacement product we 
choose.

We are told by Interleaf that to set up change control on a given
document, we need an Interleaf "all" package--you know, the
really expensive one.  We are also told once change control
has been set up on a document, that users of the standard (cheap) 
Interleaf configuration can edit the document and and enter
changes and annotations to the changes.

We hope this is the case as it would be difficult to pay the
cost and maintence of the expensive package for everyone who 
needs to enter changes.  On the other hand, the cost of using 
a few expensive versions and many of the cheap versions would be 
even less than buying and maintaining FrameMaker. (This is important,
because our upper management is biased towards FrameMaker despite
our analysis that it doesn't have the change control and graphical
editing power that we need.)

I apologize for not knowing the exact names of the Interleaf
configurations and for not speaking Interleaf-ease.  It has been 
a while since I've seen an official price list and they keep 
changing the names--at least I knew what full tps was!  I also
recall that Interleaf uses the term "effectivity control", but I
am unclear as to whether that covers all aspects of change
control as compared to the Mentor Graphics products.

  Thanks 

--Thomas