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From: maceache@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Tim Maceachern)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: myrtle beach golf
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:31:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada

Since there is a lot of interest in Myrtle beach golf courses I think it
would be nice to keep a file on them.  My observations in April this
year (I play to 8-10 handicap):

  Marsh Harbour:  lovely course.  Greens hard as hell this time, making it very
                  unrewarding to play for vacation golf.
  Legends/Heathland:  My favorite this trip (didn't play Oyster Bay this
                      trip).  For a Scottish-look course this is a must.
                      I can't imagine going back to Myrtle Beach without
                      playing this course.
  Hummingbird/Wild Wing:  Incredibly tough course.  I shot 99 and was low
                          gross.  Actually a nice course if you don't mind
                          being put through the wringer.  Be prepared for
                          lots of sand and water.
  Heritage:  nice.  <<Dearth of comments, I'm afraid>>
  Pine Lakes:  (the Granddaddy).  Oversold.  Blah course.  Nice hospitality.
               Cart paths really need work.
  Myrtle West:  not outstanding, but reasonably nice, easy course.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: cpeterse@cs.ulowell.edu (chrispy)
Subject: Re: Golf in Malaysia...
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:22:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.051426.5516@ulowell.ulowell.edu> ohoda@cs.ulowell.edu (Omar Hoda) writes:
>
>Hi All,
>
>	I was wondering if any of you had played golf in Malaysia.  I am
>flying out next Tuesday and was wondering if you guys could suggest a course
>or two.  I know this is a long shot so any input would be appreciated.
>
>	Thanks
>
>
>Omar.
>ohoda@cs.ulowell.edu                  "Forgive me my nonsense as I also forgive 
>Computer Science Dept.                 the nonsense of those who think they   
>UMass-Lowell                           talk sense."          -- Robert Frost


Perhaps you might want to specify where in Malaysia you will be.
Ill bet it's a long bus ride from one end to the other :)

chrispy :)
From: markco@cabezon.uucp (Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: South Carolina Golf/Non-Golf activities
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:44:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Aug21.174405.18842
Organization: Logic Modelling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon

Ok, I know this has been discussed recently but I didn't 
pay attention because I didn't expect to be able to realistically 
ever even think about vacationing in South Carolina since
my wife is too smart to learn the game :-) But she seems willing as 
long as she has nice beaches and attractive areas to hang out at 
when I golf.

We'll be going in October. 

If someone has gathered a collection of opinions about Myrtle Beach 
and/or Hilton Head please send them to me. I am mostly interested in 
what courses to play and which nice but affordable places I should 
consider staying at. 

It does seem that the package prices for golf/golf-car/hotel/rental-car
aren't a whole lot cheaper than just putting it together yourself and playing
whichever golf course you want to. True?

If there is a FAQ on Soutch Carolina Golf (or an FAQ in general for 
rec.sport.golf) then I'd be happy to see it too.

Thanks in advance.

I'd appreciate e-mail (as would those who paid attention last time this 
came up), but I'll keep checking for postings too.

*********************************
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Logic Modeling Corporation.
19500 N.W. Gibbs Dr.
Beaverton, OR 97075
---------------------------------
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Phone: (503) 690-6900 ext. 2212
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Note: A "R" to the posting will mail to a different system than where I 
normally read my e-mail but if it's the only way you can send then I 
should still get it.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:37:03 GMT

In <1992Aug19.122008.19122@enea.se> tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) writes:


> 
>  |> >1.  Nick Faldo ENG       20.37
>        Mizuno, I beleive
> 
>  |> >2.  Fred Couples         16.89
>        Lynx, at least he's in their commercial
>  
>  |> >3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09
> 	Mizuno

>  |> >4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31
> 	Wilson

>  |> >5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88
> 	Maruman ("Are you a man, or a Maruman...")

>  |> >6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40
>	Well, he owns part of the Cobra company...

>  |> >7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08
> 	Slazenger

>  |> >8.  Davis Love III       10.73     

       Tommy Armour 845


>  |> >9.  Paul Azinger          9.90     
>        probably Zing's :^) (does anyone know?)

       Hurricane (saw them advertised at a local pro shop!)
> 
>  |> >10. Tom Kite              9.72
>        |> Hogan ... for years
> 

Does anyone know what clubs Mark Calcavecchia switched to after
giving his 845s away at the 1991 British Open??
-- 
Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: donb@ssd.intel.com (Don Breazeal)
Subject: Re: Golf in the Olympics
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:51:52 GMT

|> Other events in the Olympics which are not sports and should be dropped:
|> 	yachting
        ^^^^^^^^

Obviously you have never taken part in a sailboat race.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: du Maurier Classic Result
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:32:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.171741.26535@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, djordan@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (David Jordan) writes:

Sherri Steinhouerer was the winner, with Judy Dickinson 2 strokes behind and
Juli Inkster (thanks to an eagle 2 from 168 yards on 16) in third.

-Ron

Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: awolf@chesapeake.ads.com (Andy Wolf)
Subject: Ping Zings -- comments?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, a division of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:20:40 GMT

	I have been steadly improving my game and I am starting to consider
upgrading my putter and irons.  I want to get a set that I'll be satisfied with
for 10 years or so, so I'm thinking about the Ping Zings (or maybe 845s).
I missed the July _Golf_ report about these and I haven't seen any in a 
store yet.  I would certainly never buy clubs sight-unseen, and I would 
probably buy my irons next summer, but I just wanted to know what that article
said, and what has anyone's experience been with the Zings.  I have tried the
putter and I WILL buy it soon.  Comments by email: awolf@ads.com or post. 

				-Andy
-- 

Andy Wolf		 	Phone (703) 875-0324	
Advanced Decision Systems	Internet:  awolf@ads.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: robg@bnr.ca (Rob Gaudet)
Subject: Myrtle Beach
Reply-To: robg@bnr.ca (Rob Gaudet)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:07:23 GMT

I took a trip to Myrtle Beach last year and am going again
this year (October). Here are the courses I played last trip:

Long Bay: Great course by Jack. interesting holes, large waste bunkers.

Blackmore: this is Gary Player's course. Very enjoyable besides the fact
            that it was pouring rain. It is very playable for all levels.

Legends Heathland/Moorland: Played Heathland in the morning and Moorland
             in the afternoon. We all loved Heathland with its links 
             style setup. Very interesting and challenging. I hated 
             Moorland, thought it was too gimicky but the others loved it.

Willbrook: Easy course, pretty run of the mill. Plain.

Pine Lakes: I agree with earlier comments.  PLain, over rated.

Here is our plan for this trip. Anyone have comments on these:


Day1: Heritage.

Day2: Heather Glen.

Day3: Ocean harbour

Day4: marsh Harbour

Day5: Tidewater

Day6: Long Bay (again!)

Day7: Sea Trail (Jones course)

Day8: Oyster Bay

I can hardly wait!

-----------------
Rob
robg@bnr.ca
Ottawa, Ontario

Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland)
Subject: PGA Championship
Reply-To: oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland)
Organization: Div. of CS & Telematics, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:15:03 GMT


Can some of you post the PGA results as they are developing during the
weekend?

Thank you!

Odd Ivar Lindland
PhD-student
University of Trondheim
NORWAY
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: GOLFWEEK
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:32:43 GMT

-------------

PS - The rates I posted for GOLFWEEK subscriptions is good only for
     delivery within the United States.

-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Scuffed balls
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:36:18 GMT
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US

To what degree can a scuffed ball affect your ball's trajectory.  Casual
observation would conclude that it would augment and flight
characteristics due to spinning, i.e., more slice, more loft.

By scuffed, I mean what your ball looks like after your drive hits the
cart path.  Also to a lesser degree, I've scuffed balls hitting them
out of sand traps.

-- 
Steve Anastasi	
smanastasi@mmm.com
St. Paul, Minnesota
From: ear@sei.cmu.edu (Eugene Rindels)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Hilton Head recommendations
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:30:09 GMT
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute



The foursome I normally play in believes in the phrase gentlemens game.  And
that an unmaintained or raked sand trap is semi-ground under repair.  When
playing from of trap of this type you are aloud to rake the spot where your
ball rest and place it back at that spot.  The exception would be if the ball
if plugged, you then must play the ball as it lies. This way all players get a
fair chance at playing a sand shot.  

This we felt was similar to the PGA ruling in tournaments  that had heavy rain
and soggy fairways.  That is, the pick the ball, clean it, and replace it
ruling. 

Players are not penalized for course condition deemed unreasonable or in the
best interest of fair play.

In article <1992Aug19.152439.7782@Warren.MENTORG.COM>, tomc@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Churylo) writes:
|> Well, it appears my wife (non-golfer :( ) will be vacationing
|> in Hilton Head in mid september. So, I am looking for recommendations
|> on golf, lodging, restauraunts.....anything to do with the island.
|> 
|> Also, more golf related. When playing my local muni courese, most of
|> the sand traps tend to be hard (especially due to the increases
|> rain in the NorthEast this summer). Anyway, I'm able to hit out
|> of real sand traps with some luck (I can actually follow the advice in
|> golf magazines and shows), however, I don't have much luck out these
|> hard sand traps. So, what is the net advice????
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> Tom Churylo
|> Mentor Graphics Corp.
|> Warren N.J.
|> 
|> tomc@warren.mentorg.com


Eugene A. Rindels   E-Mail: ear@sei.cmu.edu
Real-Time Systems Program
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: pazur@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (scott.m.pazur)
Subject: Re: myrtle beach golf
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:11:29 GMT


>>Check out the courses carefully; there are some great ones (and
>>there are @ 100!).  Play the Legends at least once, there are two
>>and maybe three now.  Then there's Oyster Bay which everybody
>>loved but me (it must have been that 13 and 11 I took on two of
>>their signature holes:-(

I just returned from my yearly trip - thought I'd offer my reviews.

Day 1: Marsh Harbour (Calabash, NC)
       Very (very) nice, a bit of a challenge.  Lots of water, and
       a finesse, shot-making course.  Nice views of the Intercoastal
       waterway from many of the holes.  I may add this one to the 
       "play-again" list, I highly recommend it.
 
Day 2: Pawley's Plantation (Pawley's Island, SC)
       I played here as part of a one-day Phil Ritson golf school
       visit.  The course is a typical Nicklaus design, but pretty
       easy - not as shot demanding as Marsh Harbour.  You can
       play the driver off most tees here.  I only got to play the
       front 9, didn't wait out the rain for the back
       (Ritson golf school note: unless you're a beginner, don't 
        bother.  Enough said.)
 
Day 3: Beach day - had to keep my wife and daughter company at least 
       one day.  (side note: Sunset Beach is a GREAT place to stay!)
 
Day 4: Oyster Bay (Sunset Beach, NC)
       This is the only course I've returned to over the years, and
       will continue to do so.  The nicest course I have ever played on.
       This year I caught it just after it reopened.  They were closed 
       for a couple months to change the grass on the greens.  Due to the
       change in grass, there is a lot of loose sand on the greens, and
       they warned everyone before taking their money (which was only
       $30 this year - last year was $41).  I always recommend this course
       to friends and they always love it.
        
       Brunswick Plantation (town unknown, Rt 17 3 miles N of state line)
       A new course with only nine holes open (I played it because
       I wasn't ready to quit for the day and they had a $9.00/9 hole
       special).  It will be a nice course when it's finished, but for
       now it still needs some work.  There was nobody there when I arrived,
       so I played alone, was able to play a few balls, work on my sand game,
       and still get done in 90 minutes.
 
Day 5: Another beach day...
 
Day 6: Lions Paw (near Sunset Beach, NC)
       I played here because of a recommendation from an earlier playing
       partner.  Not a bad course, but nothing spectacular.  The front nine
       is p pretty wide open, y, and not too tough.  The back is like
       a totally different course, very wet, very shot demanding.  Worth
       a visit if you start looking through the golf brochures looking 
       for that final place to play.
From: Vincent.Cocco@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Vincent Cocco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Handicapping - whats it mean?
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:10:56 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


For this beginning golfer, could someone explain the concept of
handicapping?
Also, are there're any good books out there that explain the game, as a
whole,
rather than just how to swing?

--
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: rwoh@engin.umich.edu (Richard Holt)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:37:16 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Aug18.203507.28073@brtph560.bnr.ca> gturk@brtph617.bnr.ca writes:
>
>|> >2.  Fred Couples         16.89
>Was 845's.  Didn't he switch to Wilson's this year?
>
Well, the giant LYNX lettering on his bag and hat usually give it away.
I believe the commercial for Lynx says Lynx Parallax or something.
From: mcole@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Slotline Hammer?
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:20:19 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <92230.091606RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
> I'd be interested in your views on the Slotline Hammer.  The ad descriptions
> look very appealing; have any of you tried one?  How did you like it? What is
> the street price? Does it come in LH?  Thanks!  Larry

I hit the Slotline Hammer into a net at a proshop.  The feel is very good.
I actually hit the salesman's Slotline.  He had his bag in the shop and let
me hit it.  I know him pretty well and he says he gained about 30 yds!
The price if I remember right was 189 for steel, and ~269 for graphite.
I really couldn't use it on my course on more than 4 holes so I can't 
justify spending that kind of money.  By the way, his other driver is a
Taylor tour preferred with the flex/twist graphite shaft.  I have never
seen one in LH, but I don't look for that because I am a righty.


Michael P Cole "golfnut"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: gturk@bnr.ca (Glenn Turk P925)
Subject: Re: Myrtle Beach
Reply-To: gturk@brtph617.bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.140723.7615@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, robg@bnr.ca (Rob Gaudet) writes:
|> I took a trip to Myrtle Beach last year and am going again
|> this year (October). Here are the courses I played last trip:
|> 

|> Blackmore: this is Gary Player's course. Very enjoyable besides the fact
|>             that it was pouring rain. It is very playable for all levels.

Agree.  Interesting layout with Very Flat Greens, which helped keep
my score down.  Very nice amenities as well (club cleaning after
round, nice clubhouse).

The only thing I questioned on this course was that there were
a couple of blind shots on the back which brought an otherwise
swift (by resort standards) round to a grinding halt.

-- 
Glenn R. Turk
email: gturk@brtph617.bnr.ca
(919)991-8593 ESN 294-8593
Bell Northern Research, RTP, NC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:13:51 GMT

fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:

>As for Davis Love III, Drew was told that not all the irons in Love's bag are
>845's. I think they could be some wedge systems of another brand.

Usually, the contracts that the players have are only for the 1-9 irons.
They can usually pick whatever woods, wedges and putter they want since
these are the most individual clubs.

Are they any club manufacturers that want to sponsor a 5 handicap hacker?
Or even just ball manufacturers? (-: I'm spending a lot of money on my golf
ball habit this year. )-:

John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com
-- 
"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!"
John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: robg@bnr.ca (Rob Gaudet)
Subject: Re: The TopFlite Tour 90 ball
Reply-To: robg@bnr.ca (Rob Gaudet)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:20:13 GMT

I've tried them and love them. For my money, they are
superiour to the Titleist DT, almost comparable to the
Titleist tour balatas. I think the Top-Flite Tours last
longer than the balatas do. 

I've only played the 90 compressions. Anyone tried the 100s?


Rob Gaudet
robg@bnr.ca
Ottawa, Ontario
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Subject: Re: Chipping
Reply-To: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:05:45 GMT

This ounds a lot more like pitching then chipping.  I was yought to hood the clubface not keep it open (for chipping).  Also, chipping involves a lot more right arm whereas pitching is the inverse.

hmmmmmmm.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby
Subject: NZ vs SA
From: clive@otago.ac.nz (Clive Boock)
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:03:21 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

All Blacks 27 vs Springboks 24

   Well, my prediction of 30-13  was a little wide of the mark and all credit
to the South African side for coming back so well in the late stages of the
game. 
   It should be pointed out that two of South Africas tries came from play
which should have been stopped by referee Sandy MacNiell, who otherwise had a
good game. The second try came from the only example of lineout lifting which
MacNiell didn't seem to see, and the third try was scored after the Springbok
halfback knocked-on when clearing the ball from the base of the scrum.
   Other than these lapses it was a tension filled game, illustrated
dramatically when the South African winger dropped the ball with an open try
line.
   Jon Preston, who came on for half-back Ant Strachan after 20 minutes, had an
outstanding game and received the most valuable player award from the TV One
commentary team; not bad for a reserve!!  Talking about commentary teams.
Those of us who watched the game on TV One and had to endure John MacBeths
incompetant display with the microphone will now be longing for the day when
New Zealands number one rugby commentator, Keith Quinn, is brought back from the
wilderness and can once again gives New Zealanders the commentating skills so
many of us admire. 
   Other thoughts about the game: 
    The camera work by the South Africans was a poor second to the Australians
who now lead the world in sports coverage
    The boorish display by some of the crowd who refused to observe the moments
silence requested by the ANC.

Clive H. Boock, University of Otago, New Zealand.