From: phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (su jianfeng)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 08:52:24 GMT

In article <BvJ3D7.9v@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.193641.24389@Princeton.EDU> muyu@beam.Princeton.EDU (Muyu Guo) writes:
>
>>  The biggest problem for China is her population.  That is the major
>>  hurdle for her to become a real powerful and rich country.  Nobody
>>  can change that fact easily.  Don't tell me D-fighters can do that.
>
>No, I think no body can change this fact. The only thing we can say
>is that the problem was created by the CCP. If there were a free election,
>I bet D-fighters would win on this point, just like Clinton will win
>on the point of economy.

I doubt your conclusion.

>
>China has been in bad shape compare to others, that was under the leadership
>of communist party. Therefore CCP will have no credit. People need
>change. At least it will bear a hope for better.
>
>Let us see on what points D-fighters would win if there were a free
>election in China.

>D-fighters will win on the point of 6/4 killing.
I agree.

>D-fighters will win on the point of democracy,
On this point, D-fighters sound better.  But, those are only some empty
slogans, such as to promote democracy, to improve human right and down
with CCP, etc.   After I have heard what they said, I still have no any
idea how they promote democracy of Chinese.  The chance for D-fighters
to win is about 50% as similar as CCP.  If CCP allowed a free election to
be held in China, you could not say 'CCP does not like democracy'.   


>D-fighters will win on the point of free market,
Here, I disagree with you.  By now, CCP has shown to be more capable to
run the economy than the D-fighters.  CCP are practicing a market
economy system and have received significant support from people in
China.  But, D-fighters have never paid much attention on economy.  Some
of the D-fighters in USA tried to put conditions on China MFN trade statue
is the evidence. 

>D-fighters will win on the point of Japanese compensation,
D-fighters have not given an answer of the effect of the Japanese
compensation on the economic relationship, if the activity is carried
out by the central government instead of individuals.  No body can win
here.  It is a blank cheque.

>D-fighters will win on the point of diplomacy.
If you can not develop the economy of your country, no one will need
you since you can not bring benefit to others.  In my memory, China wins
much more foreign economic aid than Russia. I think that the point of
diplomacy is not important in the election. 

>What else will D-fighters win?
CCP will win on the point of defending the territory of China.  CCP
have shown strong objection to the independent movements of
Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang and Inter Mongolia. For most of the D-fighters,
their opinions are not clearly known and some of them have attended the
Tibet exile's activities.  They can not win any point to those who do
not want to be a Chinese and hence do not attend the election.  

CCP will win on their peasant's policy.
I think that the CCP's economic reform has succeeded.  Nothing from
D-fighters.

D-fighters will lose the point on paying few attention to the affairs
which relate to people's daily life.  In the June4 movement, people
protested high inflation rates, corruptions, etc., but the D-fighters
mainly asked for more democracy.
 
J Su