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From: lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: Re: Yaaaaaaaaaay!!
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:10:52
Organization: ZikZak Corporation
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In-reply-to: mriley@MtHolyoke.edu's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:05:59 GMT

>>>>> "mriley" == confused--I think <mriley@MtHolyoke.edu> writes:
mriley> Oh man!  I am so glad that I found this group!  I'm a rude
mriley> baby, just discovered what I thought was ska (the Mighty
mriley> Mighty Bosstones, Bim, Let's Go Bowling), but am getting
mriley> mighty tired of the tapes that I have.  No one has mentioned
mriley> the Bosstones--are they not considered ska?  Just wondering...
mriley> Anyway, thanks everyone for the list of groups to look into!
mriley> My record collection will be most appreciative.

The 'Tones are definitely ska influenced, but I wouldn't say they're
really a good indication of the ska style in general...  Their music
is cool, though I'm really getting sick of them ('seen 'em for too
long now living here) and their attitudes as people...

Bim's not really ska either, though I don't want to get into
classifying and all that anal shit.

Try to find Dance Craze on CD and you'll be happy with any of those
bands.  If you like the energy and guitarness of the 'Tones, get
Operation Ivy's CD (on Lookout! Records).  They're grrrrrreat!

lalalater...

.s.

Oh, BTW, to everyone else, there were some Latinos who go to my school
playing Spanish-language ska the other day...  Really cool!  And
recommendations?
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From: bwillems@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Balam Willemsen)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:37:38 GMT

In article <BzEx4L.1sK@chinet.chi.il.us> koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz) writes:
>I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Pato Baton's solo album as well...

Now that you mention it... I know he has more than one.

How are they? I was reading a short thing on his latest effort in a
Reggae/World music magazine, and the said he was branching ouit in may
directions on this one (including ska to keep on subject). If this is
the same album I think I saw a short while ago, Ranking Roger is
involved with it. 

Balam
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From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering)
Subject: Dance Craze Video?
Summary: Can I get Dance Craze in the UK?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:31:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Keywords: Dance Craze Video

Hi all,

I have the Dance Craze album. It is a bit scratched these days, but
is still worth a good listen. When I bought it way back around 1980
(not sure exactly) I knew that the film was going round, but never got
to see it.

Does anyone know if the video, mentioned in some other posts is still
available, esp in the UK, `cos that's where I am.

Many thanks,

Guy

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From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering)
Subject: Re: Suggestions / Re: uptight
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:39:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Omri Gazitt (omri@owlnet.rice.edu) wrote:
: 
: Back to the subject :)  Some ex-members of English Beat got together
: with some ex-members of the Specials (another old old ska band) to
: form Special Beat. They came through Houston (on Tour) and I
: got to interview them... they are really cool and had alot to say
: about the using power of music to unite the races. Go see them if you
: get a chance to.
: 
: -Omri

Interesting what you say about uniting the races.  A recent special
program on Madness had the Nutty Boys saying that they were slated
because alot of Nazi Skinheads used to go to the Ska gigs.  Certainly
skinheads were very into the Ska music, but they were not necessarily
Nazis.  The Boys said though that people like them and the Specials,
etc.etc were very upset by this coverage because it was not how the
bands themselves felt.  They were trying to promote better race
relations. 

Note, that at the time (1978-) there was a big depression, high unemployment
and some people were blaming the minority races for "taking their jobs".
Luckily a lot has changed since then, at least in Britain.

Guy.

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From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:43:32 GMT

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Pato Baton's solo album as well...

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: jabraham@acs.ucalgary.ca (John Abraham)
Subject: Specials on CD?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:57:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: specials, trombone

The Specials were big when I was too poor to buy my own albums,
so I just recorded everyone elses.  Now my Specials tape is gone,
and I have none :-(  This is more than just a longing for a
piece of rock history - I need them for their wonderful use of
a trombone counter melody in popular music.

So, is there a re-issue on CD?  If so, email me the number
so I can order it.  If not, anyone care to make me a tape?

Or do any of the "ska collections" mentioned in the other threads
have the specials with their trombonist?  Who was that
trombonist, anyway?

-- that trombone and harmonica guy
From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: I guess this group has been created
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:02:08 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

About bloddy time after alt.skinhead got over politicised.
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From: reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu (RedDog)
Subject: Anyone Want to start a band?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:08:26 GMT

Anyone at or around Purdue want to start a ska band?

I play either guitar or bass, which ever you don't.

reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu

RedDog

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From: psa@psych.toronto.edu (Psychology Undergrad Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Suggestions / Re: uptight
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:38:40 GMT

It would be tpoo difficult to name one band .... there are so many different
types of ska ... There is the original movement in Jamaica that included 
Prince Buster and The Skatalites which was the prelude to reggae.  Of course,
it does sound like a bit like a "fast reggae" since they were trying to 
cross breed American type rock music (which they recieved via US radio) with
what they were familiar with (e.g. calypso).  Then there is the 2-Tone
movement, which had bands like The Specials, The Selecter, The Beat, and 
Madness.  These bands took the original sound of Ska and mixed it with an
beat that was a little bit faster ... this was influenced by the punk move-
ment at the time.  Now there are several new bands that call themselves 
"Ska" or "Ska-influenced", such as The Toasters, Skaface, Bim Skala Bim,
Me Mom and Morgentaler, and The Special Beat.  Just like all the other
movements, these bands have a lot of differences in their sound, and it
is sort of hard to define what the best "Ska" and there is.  

	My best advice is to buy three compilations, one from each era.
I know Island has a compilation of the early Ska movement (although the
name escapes me right now).  "Dance Craze" is a good compilation of live
ska by the bands of the 2 Tone movement, and there are SEVERAL compilations
out there of the "new" ska bands (because it is more expensive to put out
one record for one band).

Hope I've been of help
Zoltan
.
From: phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: Re: Calling All Rude Boys and Rude Girls
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:25:07 GMT
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem

>There is also a good Ska radio show in Chicago. On Sunday nights on WNUR
>(88.7 fm?) Its an hour a really great music.

I'd love some tapes off the air. I miss having random access to ska.
Do you tape?

>>Paul Hoffman
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From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Dance Craze LP vs. tape
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:04:37 GMT

In article <Bz9GC9.IMr@wrs.com> gak@wrs.com writes:
>Be advised the Dance Craze LP (the original) does not contain the same
>songs as the Dance Craze cassette...most notably, Madness does not
>appear on the cassette (due to contract problems, I hear).  There are a
>couple of extra songs to fill in the space.

Could someone post a list of songs on this album?  I was going to post
a request asking about this great album I heard at a party but couldn't
remember the title...all I knew was that it was a soundtrack.  Is this it?
I remember hearing a couple of live Beat tunes..

Thanks in adv...

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: dmlieber@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stu)
Subject: Re: Crazy 8's
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:41:31 GMT

In article <DEE.92Dec14185813@skipper.physics.sunysb.edu> dee@skipper.physics.sunysb.edu (James Dee) writes:
>Is anyone out there into the Crazy 8's?  For those who haven't had the
>privilege, they're a small ska band from Corvales, OR, who are REALLY

>Anyway, I used to see them occasionally when I lived in California, but
>now that I live on Lawn Guyland, I don't have the opportunity.  Has
>anyone seen them recently?  Are they still together?  Have they moved
>east at all?

I lived in Portland, OR for 19 years, and just moved to California for
school reasons.  Last I knew, which was about 5 months ago, they generally
just bounced around between Portland and Seattle, and didn't do many shows
other places, so I doubt they've made it back east.

Stu

P.S.   What the hell is this _left coast_ shit?  What if I'm facing south?
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 22:40:17 EST
From: <IO20467@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
Subject: finally

finally.
Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:28:34 GMT

gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:

>In the beginning, there was The Beat, a British ska band whose members
>included Ranking Roger and Dave Wakeling.  When they started to sell
>albums in the US, they were sued by a US band called The Beat (which I
>don't know anything about), so they changed their name to The English
>Beat.  Several of the members went on to form General Public.
>Eventually, a few ex-English Beat got together with a few ex-Specials
>to form Special Beat, coming soon to a club near you.

And lately the Ranking Roger and Dave Wakeling have been performing with
a band called The International Beat.  They do SOME ska, but Dave has a
tendancy to try other things.  I don't know if there's an album.

-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"


Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: haupt@cs.columbia.edu (Marcus E. Haupt)
Subject: Re: Suggestions / Re: uptight
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:25:30 GMT

>Aaron.   
>"Judge not, 'cause while you judgin' me, someone else is judgin' you..."
>-Bob Marley's first single, from his early ska days.  

Aka Bob Marley and The Wailing Rude Boys, also Bunny Wailer was with him on that
album....


For the best in Ska you have several categories to choose from


1) Blue Beat/ Rock Steady / Ska 1960-1970

"Club Ska '67" is a great sampler
Prince Buster - anything he did (which was covered by every Two-Tone act)
Bob MArley and The Wailing Rude Boys (but rare now)



2) Two-Tone/English Ska Revival 1979-1985

Two-Tone was a record label (which Elvis Costello recorded one single on),
that contained many of the most popular bands. Hence the name stuck for the
style of Ska. 

The English Beat
Madness
Bad Manners
The Selector
The Specials  
Dance Craze - a compilation of English acts.

(I don't much like the Bodysnatchers....)


Also look for the video "Dance Craze". 


3) Post-Two-Tone 

The Toasters - Anything before 1989
Fishbone - (1984-1989, more than after) Especially the 
	"Skankin to the beat" flip side of the "Party at Ground Zero" 12"
NY Citizens


4) *Must Avoid/ Not Ska* - some of these bands shamlesly pose as Ska bands.
I have no idea why.


Bop Harvey
Bim-Ska-la-bim
Skafish
A-Kings

-- 
Marcus Haupt                            
Dept. of Comp. Sci.				
Columbia University
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Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu (RedDog)
Subject: Re: No Ska in Indiana!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:03:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.081907.28933@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas) writes:
>      A guy recently posted an article saying that there was Ska
>everywhere in the States except Indiana. How come? I certainly
>haven't heard much about Ska since I came here. What's the deal?
>Was it a joke? This place certainly looks a lot like a bad joke!
>Anyways, anybody heard of Ska in Indiana?
>
>      Hubert.
>
>

Hiya, hube, Iya go to Purdue tue.  Lived in Indy my whole life, and havent
witnessed much.

But, ahhhh, the VOODOO GLOW SKULLS played in Indy at my friends place, 
the SITCOM, and that was pretty ragin'.  They are awesome musicians, 
but they leave a little to be desired as people.  They really pissed
me off as they were womanizers out the butt, giving most of our girl
friends no respect.  And they stayed their for THREE days.

blah.  Did Schlong end up playing in Muncie?  I think I missed it.

RedDog.


Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: LGB (was Re: Calling All Rude Boys and Rude Girls)
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:49:12 GMT

In article 29425@muddcs.claremont.edu, bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan) writes:
>In article <Bz67Bp.3uG@cs.columbia.edu> haupt@cs.columbia.edu (Marcus E. Haupt) writes:
>>
>>So, before I toss out my Porkpie hat and leave my braces in the trash,
>>Is there still new (and good) Ska Musis coming from anywhere
>>(Jamaica, Germany, England, USA,....)
>>
>
>I got a couple o Cali ska bands that I like.  Dance Hall Crashers and Let's
>Go Bowling.

I'll second that...the Bowlers are the skankinest!

have fun
gak

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From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:15:28 GMT

bwillems@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Balam Willemsen) writes:
>>
>>Well, maybe The International Beat has changed line-ups but I know for
>>sure that Dave and Roger were in the band and I assumed they were the
>>reason FOR the band.  I know it was them because I saw them at the San
>>Francisco International Ska Festival.  It was Dave and Roger.  I even
>>shook their hands and talked to Dave a bit.

>Really? Interesting! What was the time frame on this? [Post General
>Public? Post Roger's "Radical Departure"? ('88)]

Yes.  It was April 20, 1990. (Earth Day).  Both of them were very nice
guys.  I just asked Dave what else he and the band were going to be
doing and he mentioned some other shows in California and that was about
it.  They seemed like they were doing well (i.e., had money) so I guess
there MIGHT be money in ska.


>(BTW. I know Roger was still with Special Beat a couple of months ago
>when I saw them at Avalon in Boston. No sign of Dave though ;-). SB
>seems to have a fluid line-up as well with only Roger, Finny, Neville
>and Brad as constants. I know that Horace Panter was in an earlier
>line-up, but he was not here. The July '92 SB Live CD I picked up also
>featured Lynval and Saxa. Over all there's definitely more Specials than
>Beat ;-). Great show though!)

I missed their Detroit show mainly because I've never been very fond of
The Specials.  Just my opinion:  The Specials first album is pretty
annoying.  The only good songs are covers or ripoffs. 

Flame away, everybody. :-)

>Balam

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>Graduate Student, Physics Dept., Northeastern Univ., Boston, MA 02115
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Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: haupt@cs.columbia.edu (Marcus E. Haupt)
Subject: Dance Craze Video Still Available
Keywords: Dance Craze Video
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:56:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.093128.22954@rs6000.bham.ac.uk> pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I have the Dance Craze album. It is a bit scratched these days, but
>is still worth a good listen. When I bought it way back around 1980
>(not sure exactly) I knew that the film was going round, but never got
>to see it.
>
>Does anyone know if the video, mentioned in some other posts is still
>available, esp in the UK, `cos that's where I am.
>



I have a copy fo the video that I made from a friend. He would know where to get
it in England. If anybody needs a copy of Dance Craze, he will be happy to make
copies and mail them out. He also makes tapes of various ska music compilations
from his personal collection 1961-present....

E-Mail me if you are interested and I will contact him...

-- 
Marcus Haupt           "Two Truntables and an X-Server"
Dept. of Comp. Sci.				
Columbia University
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Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: The English Beat vs. The Beat
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:46:19 GMT

bwillems@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Balam Willemsen) writes:

>The International Beat is a band which has two other ex-Beat members
>Everett Moreton, and Saxa in it, as well as a bunch of other people...
>Ranking Roger produced the only album of theirs that I am aware of ("The
>Hitting Line") and did some back-up vocals. Mickey Billingham (Dexy's
>Midnight Runners, General Public) also appeared. Note, that there is
>also a Special Beat Live CD available.

Well, maybe The International Beat has changed line-ups but I know for
sure that Dave and Roger were in the band and I assumed they were the
reason FOR the band.  I know it was them because I saw them at the San
Francisco International Ska Festival.  It was Dave and Roger.  I even
shook their hands and talked to Dave a bit.

-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"


Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Dance Craze LP vs. tape
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:52:56 GMT

Be advised the Dance Craze LP (the original) does not contain the same
songs as the Dance Craze cassette...most notably, Madness does not
appear on the cassette (due to contract problems, I hear).  There are a
couple of extra songs to fill in the space.

have fun
gak

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Newsgroups: alt.music.ska
From: bbe001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Selecter Peels Sessions
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:03:53 GMT

Has anybody ever seen the video "British Rock"? It's got a lot of the late 70's
punk groups like the Pistols, Sham 69, etc., but then there's this little ska
section in the middle. One clip is The Selecter playing a KILLER version of
"Too Much Pressure" in the studio. It's not on their album, and it's not the
"This Are Two Tone" version, so the only thing I can think of is a Peels
Session version. I got a Peels Session catalog a few years ago but it only
included the newly released titles. Anyone know if they even cut a Peels
Session album? It'd be worth hunting down, that version was massive!
on the last train to Skaville................................................
Brad

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From: mikec@hfglobe.intel.com (Mike Coleman)
Subject: The Untouchables
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:32:34 GMT

Hey, has anybody been able to find "Wild Child" on CD?

Just Curious,

Mike

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