From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: ba.politics,ca.politics
Subject: Re: Picking and Choosing our References
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:49:52 GMT
Followup-To: ba.politics
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <mxsn45m.phil@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:

>In article <95610@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:

>>It would be nice to have a government which would stand up
>>for individual rights over group rights for a change.

>Uh, what you've just described is a democracy.

No shit.

>Once you've accepted the principle that a group of people can get together
>and coercively interfere with another group of people, you're fucked.

Well then, everyone is fucked is there is no appointed body to look out
for INDIVIDUAL interests. Anti-discrimination legislation, when it all
boils down to a head, is about INDIVIDUAL rights, not group interests.
But when the only way to try to get these individual rights is through
group action, it is sadly understandable that some people misperceive
the basic nature as a group interest.

But then again, we know how prevalent is the ill-formed idea that
homosexuals have a hive mentality.

>Which is why I say that it doesn't matter whether its two or two million
>people that get together to conspire to steal my property or interfere with
>my rights -- it's still wrong.

But with one person, it's suddenly right?

>Of course, you forgot to mention what a cabal of homosexual pigs would do
>if I opened (or tried to) a trendy bar/eatery in the Castro district.

To make the analogy, you would have to refuse service to them.

Or make another analogy, in which a predominantly homosexual company
refuses to hire a straight person. (Gee, how would they know if they
didn't ask him, or how would they know if they didn't feel compelled
to believe gossip which assumed he was straight?) Such a situation
I feel would be just as reprehensible.

Or, a REAL analogy would be the US armed services. A public institution
which discriminates against gay men and lesbians (and bisexuals evidently)
on bases which cannot be measured. 

>Somehow, I think the cabal would decide not to patronize me, no matter
>how good the food or eats were, just because I'm not one of them. And thus,
>I'd be out of business.

Well, you might be surprised to know that there is surprising tolerance
among gay people. As long as the food is good---we're VERY discriminating
eaters! :)

But you make a good point nonetheless. I think the best way to get rid of
discrimination is to boycott the discriminators. Money talks where
decency can't get through.

>And that's just the way the world works.

Unfortunately. But we can always hope to achieve change through persuasive
means.

Brian
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cramer@optilink.uucp (Clayton Cramer): Message-ID: <12133@optilink.UUCP>
I realize it's difficult for a person as depraved as [Brian Kane].
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Boston, MA 02215. True personal salvation is achieved by absolute faith in
ones true self.
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