From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: An amicable request to all flamers.
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:03:55 GMT

ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:

>        Ahh... but too much can be bad for health...  And many people do
>dislike ghost stories... :)  And after a while, it gets so boring....
> 

Bad for health , may be. But a lot of things people like to do are
bad for health anyway. 

Boring ? Apparently it has not bored you down. You have re-emerged
with full strength. :) Must have scored in your exam eh ?

> 
>        Uhh...  Follies of writing in the wee hours of the morn... :)  What can
>I say other than *ouch* :) :)  Still... no other time available... :(  But I do
>dislike the people who are currently saying that they are "discussing" when
>they are flaming.  Do what you say and say what you do.  (Please don't ask me
>about the faq... :))
> 

Obviously I am in your targetted list. :(. - writing in the wee hours
of the morn.

 

>>
>>Superficially peaceful, may be. But how about the facts that you do find
> 
>        No.  This I disagree.  Many seem to think that the country is at the
>brink of civil unrest, yet, for the past 20+ years, there has not been anymore
>civil unrests.  Be optimistic.  I am aware that civil unrest can explode
>overnight, but the govt does use its ISA powers properly so far.
> 

"Superficially peaceful" I think is an understatement for the incidents
in late 1987 in Malaysia. Were you there in K.L ?  Even peaceful (not
in 1987) demonstration for sensitive issue like racial matters would
not be considered PEACEFUL. Do you mean anything short off human life
sacifices is considered peaceful ? Peace doesnot necessary mean 
just 'NO WAR", it also mean "quietness of minds, etc".

The fact that they even misused ISA already means there is not peace.


>>a lot of discontentments especially among the non bumis ?  What are
> 
>        Discontentment with govt policies, maybe, but that does not mean "not
>peaceful".  Look at Gandhi's movement.  Discontentment?  Yes.  Peaceful?  Yes
>too... (his methods anyway)
> 

See above.

>>we going to do ? Just pretend, and keep smiling ? :) & sweep all the
>>SHITS under carpets ? Not a very good idea you know, because the
>>SHITS will still stinks. We just have to let the whole world know
> 
>        Interesting analogy.  But if you start slinging excreta (never say shit
>when you can say excreta! :)) around like what's happening in this newsgroup,
>you are liable to hit lotsa uninvolved third parties.  And you _will_ get some
>on yourself.  Why not just quietly clean it up?  And you don't even have to
>smile!! :) :)
> 


Obviously it needs you to do the cleanning job. I must admit that I
am no good at it. I hope you won't overburden yourself by eating
all the "shit". ( I prefer to use "shit" rather than excreta
because pork is translated as shit according to our Utaza Yasmin)
Your service will be neede in this net at least until March next
year, hopefully. :).


>>about the many outrageous policies in the country. Perhaps then, the
>>gov't will come to their senses. Right now I don't think the country
> 
>        Actually, I think our leaders are acute people.  Do give them some
>credit.  Look at the recent posts about what Mahathir said.  Probably in a
>couple of years time you will see a time limit being set up for all these $$$
>stuff.
> 

Yes, I have come across his familiar sayings before. Talk is one
thing, but to implement it is another. Perhaps our discussions
(flames if you insist :(  ) have stimulated his thinking. No 
credits to you this time, sorry.


>is doing too well; when people like En. Othman still label Chinese
>>as migrants, ungrateful, robbing the country of wealth while some
>>think the Chinese should go back to China.
> 
>        Tell them, "jus soli".  Anyway, can anyone please post a comprehensive
>definition of the "special rights"?  Never did quite get it straight what's
>involved exactly.

Save it for another time. Have a good rest , mate. Lots of
shits to clean up tomorrow you know .
:) :)