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From: sigrorn@icemark.oche.de (B.E.Heinen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: WANTED! atari.el for GNUemacs18.57 (1857bin8.zoo from aa)
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:39:18 GMT
Reply-To: sigrorn@icemark.oche.de
Organization: The Icemark


Could anybody of you be so kind to tell me where I can get the "atari.el"
for the GNUemacs! I got the 1857bin8.zoo from a.a and dumped it, but when
I start emacs after dumping it prints that it needs the term/atari.el file...

Where can I get it? (Or if it isn't too long could someone mail it to me?)

yours,

   Benedikt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mark.thomas@rose.com (mark thomas)
Subject: (None)
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:52:10 GMT
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Date Entered: 04-14-92 00:33
I am looking for advanced mathematics programs for the ST. I believe the
someone made a reference to a program called "Maple". Could someone
please fill me in as to what this and other programs are capable of
doing? A symbolic manipulator or statistical package would be nice. :-)
As I am taking university sciences, I am not interested in the
highschool level progams I see in my local computer store.

Thanks, Mark
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From: ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Formatting PC-readable disks on older STs
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:08:23 GMT
	<1992Mar20.225624.2296@lmpsbbs.mot.com>
	<1992Mar22.104127.12928@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France
In-reply-to: boyd@pi.cs.fsu.edu's message of 22 Mar 92 15:41:27 GMT

>>>>> Regarding Re: Formatting PC-readable disks on older STs;
>>>>> boyd@pi.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) adds: 

boyd> In article <1992Mar20.225624.2296@lmpsbbs.mot.com>,
boyd> fergus@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (George Fergus) writes: 

>I know that DC FORMATTER does this, but Double-Click doesn't seem to
>want to publicize the fact.  Perhaps the only hackers left in the ST
>world are the ones who hate MS-DOS and refuse to have anything to do
>with it?  Or they've all upgraded to TOS 1.4 and no longer care...

boyd> I'm not sure what you mean.  My docs for DCFormatter say quite
boyd> clearly that the button marked "MS-DOS" under the "Bootsector
boyd> Options" menu means exactly what it says.

BEWARE!!  DC Format (the shareware version) writes a *DEFAULT* MS-DOS
bootsector forcing tracks to 80 and sectors/track to 9!!

SO WATCH OUT, if your floppy does not have these specs.

--
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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Jukebox STM player
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:34:19 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <H.D5oii1l8Woo@yonder.equinox.gen.nz> shore@yonder.equinox.gen.nz writes:
>In <3784@wet.UUCP>, Ed Krimen writes:
>>In article <kq0wiB4w164w@equinox.gen.nz> shore@equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
>>>
>>>Speaking about Jukebox... for some reason I can't get it to work
>>> on my STE (2 megs RAM)... It loads the MOD okay, plays for 10 - 20
>>> seconds, then crashes with a horrible low pitch buzzing (like it's
>>> playing junk out of the computers RAM)
>>>
>>> Any ideas why??
>>
>>What else do you have installed?  Maybe you have a bad MOD?  Which one is it?
>
>Umm, dunno what else was installed... Nope, not a bad MOD, i've got
> heaps of them & have tried several.

I'm sorry, but without any other information, such as what AUTO folder
programs and desk accessories you had installed, I, and I doubt anyone
else, can help you.  Jukebox runs on 2meg STEs.










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From: monsoon@cats.ucsc.edu (Len A. DeJesus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR (WAS RE: SUDDEN VIEW VS.
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


	Well, all of this arguing is fine and dandy, but I wonder if anyone
thought about the notion that perhaps more developers will come out to make
stuff for this gemulator on the pc (if it gets popular enough) which might
in turn create more ST software...

	Besides, isn't imitation the best form of flattery?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: mega ste price
From: fabrizio@deis64.cineca.it (Fabrizio Lugli)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 09:32:24 GMT
 <1992Apr9.093336.1081@actrix.gen.nz> <92104.105223ABADDON@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> <1992Apr14.000703.18990@actrix.gen.nz>

In article <1992Apr14.000703.18990@actrix.gen.nz>, Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
|> In article <92104.105223ABADDON@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> ABADDON@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
|> > In article <1992Apr9.093336.1081@actrix.gen.nz>,
|> > Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz says:
|> > >Please tell me what is the point off all this..??
|> > >
|> > >If you don't have software for these so call faster machines..??
|> > >
|> > What's you problem Roger? Of course there's software for these machines.
|> > 
|> > Kev
|> 
|> As you know so much, Please list all this software...
|> 
|> Why is it that we don't have a good data base program,

Phonix, Superbase Professional, ...

|> or a good word proccesser,

Calligrapher, Le Redacteur, Signum III, ...

 hard disk tools , ie, Nortons or
|> PC tools

Michtron Hard Disk Toolkit, ICD Cleanup, Supra utilities, ...


|> or a good Terminal program,

Flash, Stalker, Rufus, Trapido, Uniterm,...

 no wee don't have the software
|> at all, and here we have nill..

Just mention some more applications: Cubase 3.0, Avalon 2.0, Notator 3.1, Calamus
SL, Retouche PRO, TeX, Gemini, MultiGEM, Quick Ray Tracer, Spectre GCR, Scigraph
2.0, plus every software for the Mac I like to use.
Moreover, with a little experimentation I learned to exchange files with just any
computing platform around. My Mac and IBM friends usually resorts to me when they
have problems transferring informations.

In fact my atari can do for me just about everything I need to.
I don't agree with you: in my opinion every computer is good for doing everything.
Is just the person that uses it that determine if it gives its fullest.
I don't think that you are using your computer for more than the 50% it can give.
Surely the fact that live in a country where the St has no diffusion is a good
excuse for this bashing attitude but, then again, even in Italy Atari is not
considered a REAL computer.

Concluding, I think that Atari ST is not the most powerful computer in the world,
but I think is still one of the most versatile and user-friendly machines around,
which for me is enough.
Be realistic Roger: for everyday use how many MIPS do you need ?

Greetings from the other side of the world,
				Fabrizio Lugli
				fabrizio@deis64.cineca.it
|> 
|> On the PC here you can get support for all the main PC programs,
|> try that for the Atari...
|> -- 
|> ***  Roger W. Sheppard      *      Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz  ***
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Missionware (Flash II) contact?
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:19:37 GMT

I've replied to this via email, but for the benefit of others who may be
anxiously looking for FLASH II, call the distributor direct:

     Missionware Software
     354 N. Windsor Drive
     Palantine, IL  60067
     USA
     (708) 359-9565

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Subject: Re: Galaxy CAD freeware for Atari ST
Reply-To: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 04:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.203839.18540@news.Hawaii.Edu> jww@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jack W. Wine) writes:
>Anyone tried this digital CAD program for the ST? 
>
>>    To obtain Galaxy CAD, connect to "eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu" (128.104.38.25)
>>using FTP.  Log in as "anonymous" with password "guest".  Galaxy is
>>in directory "pub/galaxy".  The file "README" in that directory
>>gives further instructions.  Please register as a user by sending
>>e-mail to "beetem@engr.wisc.edu".

Well..... I TRIED to get it...... I got all the parts & d/l'ed most of
them.
[For the entire package for the ST you'd have to get:

	AtariST.tar.Z
	CADtwo.tar.Z
	Fonts.tar
	Mac.tar.Z
 	CADtools.tar.Z
	Docs.tar.Z
	GMDS.path
	Print.tar
	CodeOnly.tar.Z
	CAD.tar.Z
	Wafer.tar.Z
	ProgEnv.tar.Z

Get the README, it explains what all of these are. You'll need 1.5 MB
for the compressed tar files. So far I've used up 3.5MB of disk space
for the setup not counting the contents of CADtools.tar.Z. You'll need
a 16bit uncompress and a tar program (gnutar worked fine for me). You
are SUPPOSED to need the Mac version because teh ST version is built
on top of that.
]

The program that handles the GEM stuff for Galaxy CAD is horrible
{meaning -BUGGY} on my 1040STf w/2.5mb ram. half the time the mouse
disappears so I haven't been able to try anything out. Seems to
work... I think. Hard to tell......

If anybody can get it running, I'd like to know how.... (curiosity
really, I don't know if I'll EVER have a use for it....)

-Andy-

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: kendall@spotted.rice.edu (Kendall Helmstetter Gelner)
Subject: Re: "True Color" (Was: Falcon)
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
	<6618@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>
	<1992Apr7.215837.21737@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<jonal.15@sofus.dhhalden.no> <57292@cup.portal.com>
	<1992Apr13.152529.12487@cs.ruu.nl> <8duUODG00VICA3HYsx@andrew.cmu.edu
	<1992Apr14.084950.25799@cs.ruu.nl>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:40:05 GMT

The *real* meaning of True Color is that each pixel can be assinged
whatever color you like - so if each pixel has eight bits of Red, Green,
and Blue, then each pixel can have whatever value you wish for each of the
colors.  Normally, you'd have to choose 256 (or whatever) specific
combinations of those eight bits and that's all the colors you could have
on the screen (each pixel would have to be chosen to be one of the 256
colors).  With True Color, you can make any pixel on the screen be any
color you want (or as close as you can get depending on the number of bits
per pixel)

True Color has nothing to do at all with how many colors there are
avialiable.  It's really more of a hardware graphics term. So Mr. Trameil
(sp?) was right...
--
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Quiet people aren't the only ones who don't say much.
From: tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: C for the ST
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:34:08 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems (UK) Ltd., Winchester, UK.

In article <12428@tamsun.tamu.edu> jmb8302@csseq.cs.tamu.edu (Jeffrey M Bilger) writes:
> 
>  Has anyone had problems with using the malloc() with Laser C.
> I typed in some simple code to use linked lists and when I try to access 
> any of the nodes my ST bombs with a bus error. Here's the code:
>  
>  struct node 
>   {
>    int color;
>    struct node *next;
>   };
> typedef struct node *next_ptr;
> 
> main()
>  {
>   next_ptr n;
> 
>   n = (next_ptr) malloc(sizeof(node));
>   /* allocates a node, size of the structure, and type casts it to next_ptr*/
>   n->color = 1;
>   n->next  = NULL;       
> 
> /* I build some more nodes, and link em together. But I get a bus error...*/

I'm not familiar with Laser C, but if it has 16-bit ints, then the above
code takes the low 16 bits of the address malloc is trying to return,
sign extends it, and puts it in n, with a value nothing like what was
intended. You should add the line:

	void *malloc();

to specify that malloc() returns a pointer.

There may be a header file <malloc.h> that you can include instead.

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Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 12:48:24 EST
From: Carlos Varela <EENG6801@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Can't reach atari archives? - What happened?

Try 128.252.135.4 on mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/atari...
It's a mirror for atari.archive.umich.edu and it works fine for me.
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From: boyd@phi.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Yikes!
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:18:12 GMT
Reply-To: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department

In article <1992Apr10.053113.17730@thoth.rent.com>, azog@thoth.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine) writes:
>
>I use UniTerm (2somethingE), due to the fact when logging into my VAX,
>doing a $ SET TERM/INQ and then a $ SHOW TERM, it is indeed a VT220!
>(execpt for the fact that I have to use the delete key). Ive never used
>Flash, is it true VT1xx-2xx also? This is very important to a person 
>who spends 90% of his time logged into VMS...
>

Flash does not provide VT2xx support.  I think you already use the best 
ST program for this (Uniterm).  What exactly do you mean about the delete 
key?  Uniterm allows you to swap the backspace/delete keys.

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From: steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ZNET 9214 (REALLY LONG!, I mean it).
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:31:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: thelake.A1676941446

[In article <1992Apr5.184041.13257@umiami.ir.miami.edu>,
     dlk0ms9s@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes ... ]


 >  | (((((((( |         Z*Net International Atari Online Magazine


Please don't post the electronic magazines in comp.sys.atari.st. They
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Internet. They are too long to be processed by the news software at some
Usenet sites. They contain long passages of information not germane to
comp.sys.atari.st.

Because of these and other considerations, mailing lists have been
established for the email distribution of the electronic magazines to
sites that cannot conveniently get them from the FTP archives in Michigan.

To subscribe, contact stzmagazine-request@virginia.edu.

If you have easy access to the magazines, it would be *great* if you could
forward them to the mailing list moderator. Delivery of them hasn't been
very regular.

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From: azog@thoth.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TOS 2.06 for the MegaSTe
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:37:16 GMT
Organization: Cranial Construction Corp

aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover) writes:


>Yes, Atari is offering TOS 2.06 as an upgrade to Mega STE's.  It's
>$60, but I recommend against getting it just yet.  See, another
>upgrade they're offering is the high density floppy upgrade.  For
>$150, you get a new disk drive, the AJAX drive controller chip, 
>AND TOS 2.06, so it's a better deal that way.
> 

What about for non-Mega STes? Ive got a 520STe with 2.06, could I
just get the AJAX and do it?

>Rob
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From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEMulator
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 07:58:11 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Does anyone know how much this "GEMulator" will cost and when it will be 
available here in the states?
<X>orcist

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From: jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Rumours about new releases....
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:52:12 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <1992Apr13.232618.28991@cis.ohio-state.edu> tbrown@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ted Brown) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.231555.30704@introl.introl.com> pete@introl.introl.com (Pete Ikusz) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr13.123935.27069@decuk.uvo.dec.com> arendi@loke.soo.dec.com writes:
>>>
>>>     3. The new series, no name, will be called home computers
>>>          and replace 520 and 1040 but will have a up to 60 MIPS 
>>>          performance.
>>
>>Ummm. 60? Maybe if it's running at 400 MHz. (assuming a 020 @ 20MHz is around
>>3ish MIPS) They should have it competeing with DEC's Alpha!

>Actually I don't think they are talking about the 680x0 line, but maybe a 
>RISC chip.  The 60 MIPS sounds like the MIPS R4000 or the Motorolla 88110.
>But Atari producing a RISC computer sounds about as weird as a 020 at 400 Mhz!
>How much do those chips cost apiece anyway?  I just don't see Atari producing
>a $5000 computer.  Well that's what *I* thought when I saw the 60 MIPS.

NeXT is coming out with a new machine this fall, the NeXTbrick, which will 
have two 50Mhz 88110's running in parallell. The theoretical performance 
was quoted to be 200 MIPS, whit a practical performance at around 150. But 
if they're supposed to be home computers they probably would keep 'em 
compatible with the existing hardware (kids want their games to work...). 

>Ted Brown

Spidey


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From: d91jn@efd.lth.se (Jerker Nilsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TOS 1.62 for sale
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:10:59 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

In article <7+pjs7q.ladasky@netcom.com> ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II) writes:
>	So, how does one go about determining which ST's will accomodate
>TOS 1.62 and which will not?  I have a 1040 with TOS 1.2.  Can I use the
>chips or not?

Easy... STe can use TOS 1.62, others can't. I guess you can fit them if you
use a card like the TEC, but TOS 1.62/1.6 won't work unless you have STe
hardware (unlike 2.06, which is designed to work on any ST(e)). Of course 
you might write patches, but why???? TOS 1.4 is just as good in an ST.

/Jerker
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From: MDORMAN1@UA1VM.UA.EDU (Mike Dorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GCC 2.0 (or 2.1)...
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:43:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204132045.AA09441

Ummm.  Well.  I keep hearing that there's a port of GCC 2.0 for the ST
already done, but no one will own up to knowing where it is.  Anybody know
of an ftp site (or a mailing address where I could mail someone so they
could send me) where I can get it or so?

Also, somewhere I read that the MiNT libararies weren't yet compatible.  Is
this still the case?

Oh, and coming soon to atari.archive:  CAWF2.  Source and binaries to a nroff
clone that will process MiNT man pages, and probably the man pages for the
GNU utilities and so forth...

I'm also working on a port of a PD KSH clone that I found, since KSH seems to
be smaller than BASH, and the last version has some problems with the newest
versions of MiNT.

Mike.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st