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From: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Sho don't have problems..
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 

  >	replaced front engine mounts (17K) - "must be your driving"
  >	replaced subframe mounts (22K)	- "gee, these don't usually go"
  >	replaced clutch (35K) - this failed but I knew about the recall
  >	had broken weld in front end repaired (36K)
  >	replaced cam sensor (36K)
  >	replaced those shitty Goodyear tires which were _bald_ by 25K
  >	replaced front rotors - I also knew about _this_ recall

Heh, I got mine used at 65k miles, with all records, and it has had :

clutch replaced (47k) - "how the hell did it last this long?!?"
wheel bearings repacked (47k) 
timing belt replaced  (65k)
plugs replaced (66k)  - not a fun task..  Did it myself.

and the battery replaced last week after it shorted out, and the car
wouldn't start.

It still has the original brake pads, struts, etc.   Am due to replace
the pads, as they are down around 30%.

Needless to say, the previous owner took excellent care of the car, 
replaced oil every 3k, etc.  I plan to do the same, and take the car 
over 200k before I get another.

Only complaint is that the shifter is notchy as I've seen 'em, and
occasionally misses shift points during heavy acceleration.  Hope to
help this a bit with some redline MTL (think it still has original
gear lube, too!) soon.

Been to the dealer once, and a mechanic recommended by another local
SHO owner twice.  Runs great!

- Dave Bonds 
- Internet : David.Bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From:  serg@skif.dnepropetrovsk.ua (serg)
Subject: I need brak-cars
Reply-To: serg@skif.dnepropetrovsk.ua
Organization: Information Centre of Marketing
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 14:26:34 +0300 

  Could  you  please tell  me  whom  can I turn to by means of E-mail
to  learn  the  addresses  of some persons or company who can give me
advise on purchasing an already being in use cars and brak-down cars.
---------     
BEST REGARDS.
     Sergey Ushakov.
E-mail (relcom):  serg@skif.dnepropetrovsk.ua
(internet): serg%skif.dnepropetrovsk.ua@relay.USSR.EU.net
From: gv9j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Anybody into 64-73 musclecars?
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:50:09 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

I rebuilt a '71 Camaro SS350 in 1988, and I still drive it around campus.
I'm a senior mechanical engineering student here at Cornell, and the rebuild
has gone a long way towards my experience in the engineering field.
Not only that, it can burn the tires all the way to 70Mph.
These cars are cheap and easily modifiable, and a fantastic way to get hands-on
experience for mechanical engineers.
Plus, it's never lost a race.
I've never driven a more responsive car, and I've driven Saabs, Hondas,
Nissans, the works.  The car is a place where I can flaunt my workmanship, and
have a good time doing it.
>
Yes, I'm into '64-'73 musclecars!
>
Brian (gv9j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: djs1539@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY)
Subject: Re: Hyndai Excel
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:20 MST  

In article <1992Sep14.145624.10126@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes...
{In article <11SEP199222560729@cc.utah.edu> djs1539@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY) writes:
{>In article <Bu4tHA.EzH@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069pff7@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snake-Eyes) writes...
{>{ 
{>{I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one 
{>{tell me what they think about it...thanks
{>{-Joel
{>
{>
{>Well, I don't own an '88, but I just bought an '89, and actually I was 
{>scanning the news to see if anyone else had anything to say about them.
{>I love it.  The Consumer Reports Guide to Used Cars rates it very 
{>highly, about the same or maybe slightly less overall than a Honda
{>Civic of that year, but you can't touch a same year Honda for the 
{>price of a Hyundai.  The phrase which sticks in my mind the best from
{>Consumer Reports was "Sirloin features at hamberger prices."  
{ 
{ 
{Are you sure you are talking about the Hyundai Exel, maybe you are
{thinking about the Sonata. The phrase that sticks to mind for me is
{something along the lines, "The car is cheap, and driving it you know
{it".
{ 
{In THEIR opinion the car is unreliable and in general much less
{qualityhan a Honda Civic. Are you sure you read Consumer Reports????
{ 
{john


Actually, I read that phrase too, but it was for the Yugo.  Perhaps you
should check to see that the pages in your "Consumer Reports" book doesn't
jump from "H" to "Y".  I don't have the book in front of me or else I
could quote you more.  In some catagories, the Excel of that year was rated
higher than the Civic, but overall Honda came out ahead.
But just in case these hearsay arguments are unconvincing, I should point
out that the Excel was either the third or fifth largest selling import
in that class in the late 80s.  Now it's not a Rolls Royce I'll grant you,
bet generally an "unreliable" car doesn't do so well in sales.

- Dave Segal

PS: If it makes you feel better, I can find the book again and cite it.

From: ggg@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Gary Goodlund)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:36:49 GMT
Subject: Re: Turbocharging a '91 Honda CRX Si....
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos

There's an outfit in the LA area called "Jackson Racing" that specializes
in tweaking Honda products.  The owner had a Prelude 2.0Si roadtested in
one of the car mags a while back with a license plate that said "BMWEATR"
and according to the article, it was VERY fast.

I looked in the recent issues of AUTOWEEK and the S.F.Region SCCA paper
but I couldn't find an ad.  I think you might find an ad in Road & Track
or Car & Driver.  You can be pretty sure it will negate your warrenty if
you do anything noticeable (as in TURBOCHARGING!!).

Good Luck,
      Gary
From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Why a Mercedes Benz 600SEL?
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:30:44 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov's message of 8 Sep 92 19:28:46 GMT


>Nobody _needs_ a Mercedes.  Its physical functions can be provided by
>a Ford Tempo.  So you have to look at why people _want_ a Mercedes.

I take 100% exception to that statement.  I would much rather be in a
600SEL during a real bad accident than a Ford Tempo (or any other much
smaller car for that matter).

-Carl-
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From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Spaces at an angle...
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:57:26 GMT
Reply-To: ilh@lcs.mit.edu
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems

In the case I originally mentioned (my old high school) the 15% or so
smaller was very noticable.  If you figure standard spaces are 24-inches
between cars (a guess) with a car that is 72-inches wide (another
guess), then a 15% reduction in line spacing yields only about 10-inches
between cars.  That's a reduction in space between cars of over 68%
(14-inches a side), which is definitely noticeable!

Enough of this!!!  Sorry I started this whole thing!!!  I was just
pointing out how previously normal-sized spaces suddenly got quite a
bit smaller.
--

                                Lee Hetherington
                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu
From: klein@napali.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Looking for 15" Previa wheels
Date: 10 Sep 1992 22:32:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: klein@napali.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: napali

It's time to upgrade tires for our '91 Previa, which has 205/75-R14
tires.  The only tires with significantly better performance seem to
come only in 70 series and below.  I know the '91 Previa LE came with
15" wheels, so these wheels do exist.

Is there anyone who has (and can part with) 15" Previa wheels, and/or
knows a place to get them (not dealer though)?

Thanks ----

Mike Klein		{wherever}!sun!klein || mike.klein@Eng.Sun.COM
Sun Microsystems, Inc.	Mountain View, CA

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dbowman@shade (Don A. Bowman)
Subject: Re: Buying an old Police car
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:04:26 GMT

livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu (Shai Livneh) writes:
: A question to the netters:
: 
: I'm looking into buying an old police car (preferably
: an 87-90 Chevy Caprice with a 350 and the standard
: police package additions.  Does any one out there have
: one or had one at one point?  Are there any problems
: I should be looking for after I buy it?  Where should 
: I get it? (I think it would be cheapest at an auction
: but what about other places such as leasing companies
: or private sellers)  Also, how much should I expect to 
: pay? (obviously you can't get a blue book value easily).
: Thanks in advance for any help.
: 					Shai

I wouldn't do that. Have you ever seen these guys go across
a median? They don't own the cars, and beat the crap out of
them daily. Plus the gas mileage will be zero. Count on replacing
the suspension and steering components right away (why else would
they be selling it?)

Also count on the interior being less than perfect.

These cars spend a lot of time idling, so the engine will have
worn considerably more for the mileage that is on it.

Get the same car from some little old lady who drove it to church 
on Sunday. (It will be the same care, just in better shape).


-- 
Don Bowman                (519) 744-6154     dbowman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
From: tardif@montmorency.ulaval.ca (Pierre-Martin Tardif)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ford Escort Break LX 1991
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:28:02 GMT
Reply-To: tardif@gel.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval

>In article <tardif.715361000@chicoutimi> tardif@chicoutimi.ulaval.ca (Pierre-Martin Tardif) writes:
>>DON'T YOU THINK A NEW CAR SHALL BE BETTER THAN THIS... I WAS PREFFERING
>>AN AMERICAN CAR OVER THE JAPANESE ONES BUT NOW, I CHANGED MY MIND...
>>						PMT
>The 1991 Escort IS a Jap car.  Built by Mazda for Ford.   For the record I have
>40,000 miles on my 91 GT and have only had it in the shop once to fix a busted
>speedo cable.  

I knew it was a Jap for some of the parts. But what broke with it was
the parts in the motor, the anti-polution system and the A/C conditioner
who, correct me if I am wrong, are all Ford original parts.  Even the
suspension was revised by Ford so it is NOT a all Jap car.  But
I think I have a lemon... A new thing happened, the driver side back seat
door is jammed.  It is impossible to open it !

What's next ????????  For the last problem I was reporting on the net,
it was the anti-polution system who had trouble.

						PMT

-- 
Pierre-Martin Tardif, etudiant gradue  (email: tardif@gel.ulaval.ca)
Laboratoire de Vision et Systemes Numeriques
Universite Laval, Pavillon Adrien-Pouliot, local 00100-I, Ste-Foy, Quebec,
Canada, G1K 7P4         (418-656-2131, ext 4848)
From: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: insurance claiming made e
Date: 5 Sep 92 22:05:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 

  >making such a claim would have on my premium.  He explained to me that
  >the ONLY time premium goes up after a claim is when you claim an
  >accident that YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR.  If you were charged on your
  >record for the accident then that is the absolutely only time that the

So what happens if you get a speeding ticket?  (or any other moving violation,
for that matter.)

I've often heard that this will guarantee a raise in insurance rates.  Also 
heard that the only time they check your driving record is when you apply, 
or when you make a claim, so as long as you don't make a claim or change 
agents before the ticket goes off your record, you'll stay with the 
same rates.. 

Anybody know the truth?

- Dave Bonds 
- Internet : David.Bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:58:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Indy and "rookies" [was Re: M. Andretti, what a deal for Mclaren!!]
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com


In article <1992Sep10.154644.20908@kronos.arc.nasa.gov>,
chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry) writes:
|> I'm so tempted to say something snide... but I won't.
|> 
|> as The Speedway.  The difference between a winner and a crasher there
|> is often a matter of inches.  Name any track on the F1 circuit with as
|> little margin for error.


	How about Monaco ? and that's without thinking.



		RIK


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From: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Next Grand Prix
Reply-To: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:13:12 GMT


  Sep 13      Monza, Italy
  Sep 27      Estoril, Portugal
  Oct 18      Suzuka, Japan
  Nov 1       Adelaide, Australia


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From: lms@rle-vlsi.mit.edu (Luis Miguel Silveira)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Mansell quits F1 !!!! GOOD RIDDENS
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:27:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: rle-vlsi.LMS.92Sep14122703
	<92258.094326JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu>
Reply-To: lms@rle-vlsi.mit.edu
Organization: Research Laboratory of Electronics, Massachusetts Institute of
	Technology



   In article <92258.094326JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu>
   JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu (Jonathan Swaby) writes:

      If any one does not have courage it is Prost.  He is scared to drive
      with Senna. Why is that? It will be a French engine in the car, that
      should make him less paranoid. Prost is good, but he complains
      all the time. We will see what happens with Williams. Look where
      his personality has gotten him. McLaren and Ferrari never want to
      deal with this clown again. They don't care how good he is. They
      can't stand him. I can't either.

      Jonathan Swaby

Prost wants to have a team working for him alone.  Therefore he does
not want Ayrton on the same team.  If you do not like his attitude,
too bad.

Senna wants to drive the best car, bar none.  He is not willing to
develop a new car/engine.  He wants to win now.  If you do not like
his attitude, too bad.

Mansell wants to play golf :-).  I still do not understand why he did
not came to terms with Williams (he was dicked around at Williams ?
So who wasn't ?  What else is new ?).  If you do not like his
attitude, too bad.

Personally I think all three stink and I could not care less if they
quit racing.  In fact I would appreciate if they would do that so that
new drivers with less of a prima-dona attitude and more eager to drive
and win, would have a chance.

More driving and less talking!

-Miguel


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From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Subject: Rahal Rummor(It's really fact)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:21:24 GMT

Here is some juice. My girlfriend has a patient that is the head of
the supercomputer here at Ohio State, and he was telling her that he
was having lunch with Don Holiday. I believe Don is the guy who
designed the eagle chassis for Truesports. Anyway he told her that Don
was going to start working for Rahal next year, and they were looking
to develope a new chassis, not for next year, but the year after. Also
is sounds as though Bobby is going to retain most of Truesports
engineers, probably for the chassis development. I know when the
announcement was made about Truesports dissolving, Bobby told the
Truesports crew to at least let him interview them before they look
for another job. I guess this is all starting to come together now.


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From: chrisp@regenmeister.Sun.COM (Chris Prael)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Respect for Senna (was: Monza race - here lie SPOILERS !!!)
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:02:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: regenmeister

From article <1992Sep14.142203.13076@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, by kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes):
> From article <Sep14.082925.17245@engr.washington.edu>, by (eliot):
>> 
>> Senna's post race interview was also good sober stuff.  My respect for
>> him is climbing.  
> 
> I didn't see a post race interview with Senna, but my respect for Senna
> (never very high--has nothing to do with his driving ability) dropped
> like a rock when I found out that Mansel would not be driving for
> Williams next year and that a big part of it was because of Senna's
> publicly blowing off at the mouth.  In the U.S., publicly interferring
> with another man's bargining process would be grounds for a lawsuit.

I have not been a Senna fan for a long time.  However, I think it is
quite unreasonable to blame him because he managed to pursuade Frank
Williams to stuff his foot in his mouth and chew on it.  (Though it is
very possible that Renault is pulling the strings here and just used the
Senna thing as a ploy.)

Chris Prael
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: rbt@dracut.keps.kodak.com (Bob Tufts)
Subject: Re: Bubba (NASCAR)
Originator: rbt@dracut
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:25:31 GMT

In article <s+vnfyf@lynx.unm.edu> wolf@pioneer.unm.edu (Mark Giaquinto) writes:
> In article tsander@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> >It is NOT to get whiplash trying to figure which Marlboro car is passing which.
> 
> You have a major bitch of mine her, is that Rick or Emmo.  Micheal or Mario.
> Gorden or Cheever.  Or in F1, Senna or Berger, Patrese or Mansel, etc etc
> or even worse.  Is that a Williams, Bennatton or Lotus, if your the least
> bit distracted when that flashes by forget it :)
> 
> Mark

Well I can only help you with a few: Mario has a red rollbar. I believe
Mansell is a red #5 (as opposed to a white 6). Senna's helmet is pretty
distinctive.

-Bob T.
From: james@Bridge.COM (James Montebello)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Ferrari to use Brian Hart engines in '93
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:19:38 GMT
Organization: Bridge Information Systems

In article <183496@pyramid.pyramid.com> danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones) writes:
>According to ESPN, the rumour is that John Barnard has suggested
>to Ferrari that they use Hart engines in '93.  I must say, I have
>never heard a more far-fetched one. 

When I heard this (Varsha also implicated Doc Posthewaite in this),
I figured it to be a colossal joke on Barnard and Doc P's part. They must
be laughing their heads off that anyone would take such a statement at all 
seriously.
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From: eur@dutncp2.tn.tudelft.nl (Eur van Andel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Paris-Peking T1-T2-T3?
Summary: what do the T? classes mean?
Keywords: Paris-Peking
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:59:55 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Organisation: TU Delft, The Netherlands

Dear Racing-Lovers

With great pleasure do I watch the monstrous Paris-Peking rally,as it is driven
now. But I do have some problems with teh categories: the T1, T2 and T3.

It seems that the T1 category is plain stock, with some modifications to
the springs and dampers. Does anyone know which modifications are allowed?

And what is the T2 category? I believe thatin T3 almost everything is allowed:
the Citroens ZX (previously Peugeot) are steel frames with 16" Mg wheels
plus a >600 hp twin-turbo racing engine in the back, covered with plastic.
This car has no resemblance to any Citroen model whatsoever. It does drive
very good, yes. Almost as good as it burns :-)

The Kamaz trucks stole my heart, though. They are pure stock and have 
12-cylinder, 13-liter, 2-stroke diesels that give a spine shivering roar
as they pass at 100 mph trough the desert. They used to be 1-2-3 in the truck
category, but the stupid ESPN 20-minute abstract of a day's racing that I see
doesn't show the truck standings anymore :-(

It's a pity that no other brand than Citroen dares to pick up the glove
against the Japanese. I would love to see some chevy pickups drive along,
or even a special-built USA car. Do the big three make ANY racing/rally cars?

Or only Indy500 cars? I thought these were made in England.

eur
From: johnl@amiganet.chi.il.us (John Liskey)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Racing stars in M magazine
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:02:49 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Check out the latest edition of... I believe it's called M magazine.. it
appears to be a fashion magazine for men..

It has a 8-10 page section picturing racing stars dressed in their best
clothing... those I remember being in it include Al Jr., Danny Sullivan,
Emerson Fittipaldi, Eddie Cheever, and Michael Waltrip..

John Liskey
johnl@amiganet.chi.il.us
From: st1hg@jetson.uh.edu (Atteberry, Charles R.)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1 on Satellite
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:06:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

This may seem like a odd question t some of you but this weekend I watched the
Italian G.P. on Canadian Satellite ANIK D1 t17 with a live feed.  What are the
other satellites that carry live feeds for F1 races, practice, and qualifying?
I find the live feeds lack the idiot colour commentary, it is just pure racing.
                                            Thanks,
                                              Mac.