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Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 23:32:42 -0500 
From: Ke-Wei Ma <km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: What to buy?

    Now that my stero has begun to die on me, its about 25 years old, I
am in the market for a power/integrated amp or reciever.  I am leaning
towards a power/integrated amp so I would like to call upon anyone for
some advice/hints/opinions or what not.
    I am looking for something in the $300-$500 price range.  It should
be work well in a modestly size room.  I intend to keep it as a center
piece of my stereo system for a long time.  I have been looking into
Adacoms GFA-545 and Nad 2400THX.  Any opinions?

    
Thanks in advance.
Ke-Wei
From: nflack@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nigel R Flack)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: WANTED: used cd player (sellers or suggestions)
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:54:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Hi there, 

     I am a college student (therefore on a **small** budget), and am 
looking to upgrade my CD-player.  Currently I have a 2-yr. old Sony Discman
(D-11 - I liked a previous poster's name "Trashman" :) ), which I have
hooked up to my stereo.  To put it mildly, it sounds awful!

     Anyway, I would like to purchase a *real* CD player, and this post is
basically to serve two main purposes:

  1) I have been reading this newsgroup for a while, and so I am aware
     that the Rotel 855 receive's high praise.  I have also done some
     research on my own, and I think I would really like an Adcom GCG-575,
     if I can find one I can afford. ($300 --> $400 MAX!!)

     Question is, what other one's should I look at, that you all think
     I might stand a chance of picking up in this price range.

  2) Any sellers for respectable CD players in price range above, I'd love
     to hear from you!

     Considering:

          Carver, Rotel, Luxman, Adcom, Denon, HK, JVC (got *really* good
          recommendation before), NAD, Nakamichi, Onkyo, Philips, Pioneer
          Elite, Sony ES (ONLY ES).

          I am not looking at changers, and the player must have/be
          compatible with a readily available remote.

BTW, I have a copy of the summary posted by belluta@cascade.oshu.edu,
so if you mailed to him, no need to mail to me.

A million thanks to anyone who responds,

_____________________________________________________________________________
Flack Flack Flack...          The Flacker.

Nigel R. Flack           University of Pennsylvania         Go QUAKERS!!!!
nflack@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: To the guy who flamed Infinity
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:54:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: scic.1992Nov11.165426.657
Organization: Intel Corporation

In article <gilchr.721385563@ee.ualberta.ca> gilchr@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Gilchrist) writes:
>If your buddy bought them from a local junk-monger, and took them to a dance,
>they are probably SM-82's or a closely related unit.  They're not good.
>
>Go listen to an Infinity Beta equipped system.

And if anyone is looking to spend around $2500 on a set of speakers, and
will consider used, I'd recommend they try to find a set of RS-1B's.  These
were basically "Baby IRS" systems, with 5 enclosures(from memory): 2 6'
enclosures with a large number of EMIM's and EMIT's in each, 2 6' enclosures
with 6 12" woofers in each, and a servo unit for the woofer enclosures.
Very impressive speakers!


-- 
Seth J. Bradley, Senior System Administrator, Intel SCIC
Internet: sbradley@scic.intel.com   UUCP: uunet!scic.intel.com!sbradley
----------------------------------------
"A system admin's life is a sorry one.  The only advantage he has over
Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare.  On the other
hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions
of their own innards!"  -Michael O'Brien
From: gfl@hera.cc.bellcore.com (lenahan,grant f)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Boston high-end dealers
Summary: Audio Vision
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:21:54 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

(Ahmad On) writes:
> I'm in the market for a new system and I would like to know which dealers
> carry what lines and most importantly, which ones are reliable and
> knowledgable and have decent listening rooms. 


Stereo Vision in, I believe, Arlington is an excellent
dealer.  I know they carry Krell, Thiel, Wilson, Spica.
There's much more, but I can't recall right now.

Ask for Steve, and tell him Grant recommended him.
Steve's very nice, knowledegeable, and reputable.

Grant
From: litzer@snake30.cs.wisc.edu (Brent Litzer)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Home Subwoofer Drivers
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:33:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: daffy.1992Nov10.163352.15357
Organization: /usr/lib/news/rn/organization


Does anyone have a recomendation of subwoofer drivers for home use?
I am looking for a 12"-15" high power type driver.

Thanks

Brent Litzer
litzer@cs.wisc.edu
From: dmlb@ohm.york.ac.uk (Duncan McL Barclay)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: 1. amp kits 2. potentiometers
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:21:09 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <9211091852.AA12573@flounder.cis.ohio-state.edu> herrick@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott m herrick) writes:

>I am in need of anyone who can offer help with a couple of questions:

>1.  Is there anyone who produces amplifier kits?  I am looking for something in the range of 80 to 100 W/ch.  A phone number for address for a catalog request would be great.

>2.  I am also looking for a potentiometer with two separate wipers.  I wish to use it on a gain control for an active x-over (to control both channels simultaneously).  I have searched in vain but with no luck.  Again, a phone number or address would greatly be appreciated.

On point 1) I cant help you being in England. However a mechanical two wiper
pot. is easy. I trust you dont mean a stereo/dual ganged pot. but something
with different resistance/law characteristics. If you look at a pot. most have
a slot about thew size of a 4mm screw driver blade on the back of the spindle.
It is possible to take a second pot. and shape its spindle to fit this pot. 
Glue them up and you have a composite pot. 

>Thanks Again,
>Scott

Its okay.

Raggy


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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: pooton@adcom.micro.umn.edu. (jamie pooton)
Subject: Re: Pro Logic Center ch. and SUBwoofers...
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:07:05 GMT

In article <KIM.92Nov4082654@kim.Software.Mitel.COM> kim@Software.Mitel.COM  
(Kim Letkeman) writes:
> 
> These were recently reviewed as being quite amazing. But the price was
> quoted as $500US. Has it risen in the last couple of months?
> --
> Kim Letkeman	kim@Software.Mitel.COM

Yes, unfortunatly they went up to $750 (base) last month (Oct 15?).  Their  
price seems to move up after every incrediable review.  Stereo Review ($500),  
Speaker Builder ($580) and now Audio ($750).  I suppose once Stereophile does  
their upcomming reivew they'll be up to a grand.  My friend has a set from the  
$500 dollar days, and they are amazing. (Even running off an old Acdom 545)  I  
guess they have now added a level control to the passive crossover for  
amplifiers that don't have one.  In any case they are the best of the breed  
that I have heard, even against tough compition like Muse and Velodyne. 

- jamie
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: How 'bout a new group for the rest of us?
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:35:37 GMT

In article <24172@alice.att.com> jj@alice.UUCP (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch) writes:
>
>While I disagree with Peter's coupling stereo and all the world's
>problems, I must agree that a new group, where it was UNDERSTOOD
>that low-fi and mid-fi were appropriate discussions, and where
>it was also understood that luddite and/or elitist rampages,
>insult, denegration, and such were unwelcome, would be most 
>appropriate.  

You're forgetting that most often, someone seeking information on
stereo equipment wants answers from those who know more than they do.
Very few knowledgable people would bother reading rec.audio.low-end or
rec.audio.cheapskate or whatever.  By creating such a group, those who
clamor for it would most likely lock out the very information they seek.

>Were I to want to build up a mid-fi system, I know what this group
>would do.  It would start denegrating, insulting, and demeaning
>each any every proposed component as well as the posters who
>suggested them.

But amid the dreck you would also be able to extract the info you might
want.  While the signal to noise ratio of rec.audio is rather low, the
total amount of information retrieved in a new group would likely be
lower.


--
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gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin)
Subject: LP Problem
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:48:38 GMT


I have some LPs which makes noise whenever volume goes up.
Does it mean that the those LPs are already damaged ?
If so, why does it happen ?

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rdw56612@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rick Waller)
Subject: Interference in speaker cable?!?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:56:31 GMT
Keywords: problems

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem that I have incurred.
I have my reciever hooked to my stereo TV.  The reciever is positioned across
the room from the TV and the speakers.  So, there is about 30 feet of cable
between the reciever and the TV and another 30 feet of cable between the 
reciever and the speakers.  The problem is this.  When listening to the TV
through the reciever, every once in a while I get some interference.  It
sounds like people talking over a CB or short wave radio.  I know that there
is a man who operates a short wave radio within 400 feet of my home.  Is this
in fact the cause of the problem? And what would be some possible solutions of 
this interference?  Although it only happens occasionally, it is still annoyin
when I'mm trying to watch something.

Thanks for the help.

Rick.
Please e-mail responses to rdw56612@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: The end of cassettes,   was...Re: So? Anyone have dcc yet?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:12:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64746.student.cwru.edu

In article <7490248@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers) writes:
>> Bottom line is that there are tens of millions of cassette decks,
>> auto cassette players, toys, commercial recorders for courts, etc
>> in existence and they are certainly not going away in two years, nor
>> is the demand for the tapes (both blank and pre-recorded.)  Cassette,
>> tapes have been around for many years and they will continue to be
>> in the future.
>> 
>> 
>
>Bill, I agree with your basic position here, but a word of caution:
>IF DAT or DCC catches on in a big way, it is not beyond possibility that
>the conventional Compact Cassette could vanish in a relatively short time.
>For example, how many 8-track systems or cartridges do you see sold these
>days?  If, say, DCC offers such a clear advantage over today's cassette
>*in the mind of the consumer*, then the cassette could quickly become a
>dinosaur, regardless of its true merit.

	I would doubt that. Not many will pay the extra money to buy a 
portable DAT or DCC, when they can spend $30 to get a protable cassette 
player. When the compact cassette came out, it was similar in price to the 
8-tracks, and not that many people owned 8-tracks as those who own tape 
decks today.
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DCC, MD Limitations
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:34:54 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <of07=ae00WAuMm90Qm@andrew.cmu.edu> bc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian T Cheek) writes:
>What would happen if you recorded a whisper + loud electric guitar sound
>on either MD or DCC.  The whisper would be dropped, correct?
>
    Well, how far below the guitar was the level of the whisper?  In
    other words, was it audible or not?

    But your point about not using "consumer-oriented" formats for
    serious recording work is IMHO correct.  
>
>How can people tell the difference between real pianos and sampled ones?
>Real piano strings resonate the other ones.  (Hard to hear, but you
>don't want to throw them away, now.
>
    I don't understand why a SAMPLED piano wouldn't have this
    resonance recorded.  Purely synthesized yes, but if the sampled
    sound didn't have these, it would be due to the recording
    technique wouldn't it?

>3. Smart people will wait for true CD quality, (like DAT now, which
>blows the doors off DCC in all areas but analog cassette compatibility
>and text information)
>
    DAT isn't exactly setting the stock market on fire.  And if
    you've even listened to a cassette walkman, your illusions about
    mass market buyers holding out for quality would be rapidly
    shattered.

    I'd be very surprised if one of the two didn't slowly replace
    ordinary Cassettes for the walkman crowd...either sounds better.

>BTW, Sony in a recent ad says CD's are for the high end and MD's are for
>the rest.  Come on.  We were insulted with analog cassettes once, lets
>not go half ass because of a technical limitation now!  (Thats like HDTV
>with a lossy compression so it looks like VHS again!)
>
    Now now.  

    Sony of course is an expert on predicting that a technically
    inferior format will replace a superior one...sadly.  


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: Re: Yamaha RX-V1050 (better parts than 850 & A1000?)
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 14:12:08 GMT

In article <1d9vs2INN54v@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, ST403383@brownvm.brown.edu (Thai Pham) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov04.224603.29336%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu>,
|> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.) said:
|> >>information about Yamaha RX-V1050.
|> >
|> >It has also recently been posted that the 1050 has a cleaner internal
|> >design than the 850 and even the DSP-A1000, resulting in better sound.
|> 
|> I believe the poster (about the "clearner internal design") said that
|> from talking to Yamaha technicians and opening up the unit, he thinks
|> the parts in the RX-V1050 are better.  And to him, it means better sound.
|> I don't think I remember him posting about sound comparison...
|>

  I think I'm the poster who originally brought up the quality issue of
the 1050 and 850.  I don't remember exactly what I said originally, but I
have listened to both units (and even the DSP-A1000) extensively.  One
local shop has all three in their sound room.  IMHO, the 1050 sounds better
than the 850 and the A1000 (I was using Mission speakers).  This perceived
difference prompted me to investigate the units further.  I conducted
similar A/B type tests at other retail outlets to convince myself this
occurence wasn't limited to the particular units in the sound room of the
first store.  This investigation lead me to the conclusion that the
difference in sound quality can be attributed to the internal design
and quality of parts used (I could find no other reason for the
consistently better performance of the 1050).  Of course, the differences
that I heard may or may not be heard by others (just as the differences in
some speaker wire are heard by some and not by others).  By looking inside 
the units in question, however, I think you'll have to admit there is a
difference in design, quality of construction and parts used.  You'll have
to leave it up to your own ears to hear the difference.
  Hope this clears up any misunderstanding of my original post...
 
|> -Thai Pham
|> st403383@brownvm.brown.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: AKG Blue Line Mikes
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:50:11 GMT

Has anyone out there had any experience with the AKG Blue Line mikes?
It consists of an SE300B body and any number of capsules that fit on
with a bayonet connector.  

They're much cheaper than the 460 or 451 lines, but have the same specs.
The most interesting aspect is that they have no transformer, in spite
of being phantom powered. 
-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
From: geoff@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Geoff Caras)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: mic information sought...
Keywords: mic
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:58:01 GMT


Hi,
I've inherited a SHURE model 565 unisphere I mic, Unidirectional dynamic mic. 
Does anyone out there know anything about it?

It has a 4 conductor aphenol MC4M connector, does anybody know
how to convert this to an XLR? Is it worth it for this mic,
I think it is probably 15+ years old!

There is an internal connection diagram  which shows 2 coils
#1 -- red / blue
#2 -- white / black

and a cartridge/case ground.

The connector has white/shield/red/black connections. Is there a standard
for which is hot ? 

Will I hurt it if I start connecting it to a mixer?

Any help is appreciated,

Geoff....



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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: the usual silly test levels question
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:43:26 GMT


Okay, here's the general answer to what "0 dB" means...

THe reference level depends on what kind of machine / audio standard you're
using.

Pro systems tend to used balanced 600 ohm interconnects, and the reference
level is traditionally 1 milliwatt (the "m" in "dBm"), or .775 V RMS.  Many 
pro systems set their VU meters to read "0 VU" at +4 dBm, except for some
reason broadcasters like to set it even hotter, at +8 dBm probably to get
a little edge on RF interference.

Consumer systems use a reference of 1 volt RMS ("dBv" or "dBu"), and tend to 
run their meters zeroed at -10 dBv.

Now why is 600 ohms a standard?  I am fairly sure it was the characteristic
impedance of old-fashioned open wire phone lines.  Most interconnect cable
is actually in the 100 ohm range these days.  

Hope this helped!
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to biasless recording
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:40:49 GMT

In article <BxIDnI.2st@cen.ex.ac.uk> PVossler@cen.ex.ac.uk (P.J.Vossler) writes:
}
}Was that the system where there is a cubic relationship between the
}audio signal and the magnetic flux generated in the head gap. I recall
}reading about a system which removed the need for a high frequency
}bias signal by using such a relationship in the recording process. The
}system was supposedly capable of achieving the quality of a CD with
}simpler analog electronics.
}
}However .....
}
}IMHO no big company will no implement an analog tape system that
}produces CD quality sound, both Phillips & Sony have invested millions
}in developing their new systems for digital tape - I imagine any
}patents on a new analog system will have been bought up and locked
}away under heavy guard.
}
}As an electronics buff I'd be interested in any further pointers on this.

This sounds like the 100mpg carburetor patent that was bought up by the
"oil companies" and suppressed.

In the first place, you can't lock up or hide a patent.  By its very
nature, a patent is open to the public in every detail.  That's why it's
called a patent, which means open.  To get a patent, you must tell
all, including the best realization of your idea.  If you hide anything,
there goes the patent.  

If any patent, such as you describe, were to be applied for, it would
immediately appear in the AES Journal, where all significant audio
patents are abstracted.  

Finally, there already are analog tape systems that produce CD quality
sound.  There is just no way of transferring it to your home.  
-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: Dave Jensen <djensen@claven.idbsu.edu>
Subject: Large Format Console Features
Organization: Morrison Center for the Performing Arts
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:58:31 GMT

I would like to open dialogue on the merits of the following large format
console configurations:

A) Stereo Subgroups -  instead of having to assign to, and pan between,
subgroups 1 and 2, 3 and 4, etc. (which allows only 4 pairs of stereo subgroups
on an 8-subgroup console) you would simply assign to, and pan within, any of 8
stereo subgroups. 

B) Stereo matrixes - the 8 stereo subgroups would feed stereo-in-place to 8
stereo matrixes.

C) The choice of sending pre- or post-fader subgroup signals to the matrixes.

D) Inclusion of Foldback/Aux busses on the matrixes.

E) Inclusion of L-R and Mono (center) outputs on the matrixes. 

F) Scene-presets instead of mute-groups - i.e., activating a channel by
pressing (and illuminating) an "ON" button; scene-preset masters would
"activate" selected groups of channels (as opposed to muting selected groups of
channels).

G) True L-C-R outputs - channels individually assignable and pannable;
subgroups assignable to either L-R or (summed mono) to center. 

H) What other features would you like to see on a large console?   
 
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