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From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Subject: Re: Prince Edward Island
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:43:47 GMT

In article <s369pINN1bc@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:



>Someone ask me to post a question:

>       Does anyone know of CO beaches in Prince Edward Island?

>Please post replys because the requestor did not give me permission
>to post his email address and I will not forward mail to him since
>I just now deleted his letter to me along with his email address.

>-- 
>       Thomas Earl Middleton
>       middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu
>       aka Happy Bare


I can't specify the location (and it might even have been in NS rather 
than PEI?), because I've never been there, but I recall a brief item in 
Maclean's (in the section with the short amusing items that precede the 
main news sections) some time back about Sears having used (in a clothing 
ad [;-)] ) some shots of the beach and people frolicking about.  The piece 
reported that the tourism minister was not amused, saying that the province 
was a family place and 'that sort of thing' just didn't go on in PEI (or 
NS??).  I recall the article because I was inspired to write a letter to the 
editor about how nude beaches are wonderful places for families to visit, 
et cetera, and perhaps the minister ought to go visit the beach to find out 
for himself.  I sent a copy of the article and letter on to TNS for their 
information (maybe someone there recalls it, but it was almost a year 
ago--late spring/maybe early summer).  I even got a call from Maclean's with 
word that they wanted to print it and asked how I wanted my name to appear  (
they had some policy about initials v. first/middle names).  Alas, I never 
saw the letter in print.

Perhaps my post will cause someone else to recall the item and the beach in 
question.

As long as we're on the subject of Canadian beaches, does anyone know of any 
on Lake Winnipeg??

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From: pat@next5036.vm.iastate.edu
Subject: CO areas in Iowa?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:24:13 GMT

My girlfriend and I were wondering if anyone knows of any CO optional areas in  
Iowa.  If anyone has any information we would appreciate it.  Thanks!
From: sday@fornax.unm.edu.cirt.test (Stephen F. Day   UNM CIRT)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Seeking CO areas in Colorado (Boulder/Denver preferred)
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:23:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.qfzj12=
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Apr13.225847.15963@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, wsmith@isis.cs.du.edu (Walter Smith) writes:
> Greetings!
> 
> Now that warmer weather is rolling around, my girlfriend and I would like to
> find some clothing-optional recreational areas in Colorado, near Boulder if
> possible. They don't need to be anything fancy -- just someplace to soak up
> the rays and warm of the season. Please email me as I can't often access my
> account. Thanks in advanced.

Wait a minute... you mean to say that CO != CO?
[NOTE: For the C-impaired, "!=" means "not equal to"]

Sorry, couldn't resist! ;-)

> Walter
> wsmith@nyx.cs.du.edu

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From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: Women more modest?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:06:08 GMT

In article <35036@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> mack@jasmin.zko.dec.com (Ralph Mack) writes:
>Curiously, there are some simple ways in which people express their non-sexual 
>affection for one another physically that nudists, at least in New England, 
>seldom do, even if they know each other very well. For instance, we seldom ever 
>hug when nude.
 
Well, Vancouver is a pretty reserved city (eg., not much hugging) IMO, but
I don't notice much if any difference between clothed and unclothed people.
It's quite common to see people hugging (same or opposite sex) on Wreck
Beach.

>We seldom pack in together but tend to disperse like a gas to 
>fill the space.  (Check this out next time you visit the sauna!)  We seem to 
>avoid skin even casually brushing skin. Nudity somehow seems to preclude all 

At the local (nude) "swim nights" the people are always sandwiched into the
sauna and hot-tub like sardines.  Contact is inevitable, especially as
people are practically stepping over top of others to get to back (upper)
tier of the sauna.

>of those warm-fuzzy things that are a part of belonging to one another.  
>Interestingly, the kids don't seem to be much affected by this reticence. 
>They laugh and play and tumble over each other like fish. The problem, of 
>course, is that we respond sexually to touch.
>
>If the association between nudity and sex is in our minds, surely the
>association between touch and sex is as well. Surely through hugging those 
>good friends who are willing to become comfortable with it and being 
>generally as willing to be close as apart, we can lose that cultural slag 
>as well, and be the gregarious warm-fuzzy creatures we should feel free to be.
>								Ralph

Yes, I'm sure the same applies for touch, but I think the touch=>sex
implication exists even when the people are not nude.

Bill.

PS: Ralph, please limit your line length to less than 80 characters.  A
    couple of lines were 255 chars long.
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From: leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: San Diego Gatherings
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:02:45 GMT
Organization: The Harold Network -- Pro-Harold BBS -- San Diego, CA

>Anyone have any info on San Diego gatherings/events?

Well yes.  I am a member of "The Camping Bares of San Diego" which is "An
Ancarchist Dis-organization dedicated to the destruction of the fabric of
our society" according to our motto.  We are primarily a non-landed
naturist group who sponsor camping, canoe trips, visits to nudist resorts,
beach outings and so on.

Currently there is a visit to the excellent hot springs at Saline Valley,
near Death Valley.  This upcoming weekend is a "canuding" trip down the
Colorado River.

Coming up is camping trip and hike to San Diego's Cedar Creek Falls near
Julian this will be the wekend of 26 April

May 3rd is a visit to Glen Eden resort near Corona in Riverside County

If you want more details leave me e-mail
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From: Francene.Florio@zeus.ieee.org (Francene Florio)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Naturist pool party
Date: 12 Apr 92 07:41:00 GMT
Organization: IEEE Service Center, Piscataway, NJ

Our next indoor Naturist Nude / clothing Optional Pool Party is Sat., April
25th at the Passaic YMCA in Passaic, NJ., 45 River Drive/Main Street.  NJT Bus
#190 from NYC.  Starts at 7PM.  Reservations/information call 201-670-TRIP,
Francene.  Monthly Pool Parties ALL YEAR Round!!!
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From: andreas@etl.go.jp (Andreas Knobel)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Public Pools
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:42:17 GMT
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.

In article <1992Apr8.084649.20682@ousrvr.oulu.fi> dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.180527.21072@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> PATZNER@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Achim Patzner) writes:
>>Just one question: Are other people really wearing
>>CLOTHES in saunas? Towels maybe, but anything else?
>
>YES!  In the US, some hotels have saunas with their pools and people are
>expected to wear bathing suits in the sauna.  I normally take my suit
>off in the sauna, but throw a towel over my genitals on the rare
>occasion that someone comes in.  
>
Ah, somebody writing from Finland! Fond memories... I have seen someone
wearing a _rucksack_ in a sauna. That was on one of those ferries from
Helsinki to Stockholm. So we were all sitting in the sauna sweating and
swearing happily when this guy came in, naked, and carrying a rucksack
and a little Norwegian flag (note: no skis). I left when he started to
unpack the beer and sing the Norwegian anthem.

In Scandinavia nobody wears a towel. Towels are for sitting on, as the
benches tend to get rather hot. Here in Japan nobody wears a towel,
either. You leave the big towel outside with your clothes, and use
the small towel for wiping the sweat from your forhead.

Andreas

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From: erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Erno Pena)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: First time CO beach
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:43:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr14.074347.8617
Reply-To: erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 
-the door was closed.  In a minute, the door opened and this 
-attractive woman came out, totally nude.  She saw my wife and smiled, 
-and my wife introduced me.  She came over, said hi, and welcomed me 
-to camp.  I was in a state of shock.  I had never imagined having 
-such a conversation with a naked woman!  

I know I shouldn't ask, BUT... did your Mr. Peabody flex while you were  
talking to her? 

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From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Subject: Sorry about the old .sig and double posts
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 07:16:33 GMT

Here it is, Saturday night/Sunday morning, and thanks to Minnesota's 
ridiculously early bar closings (1am), I'm stopping in to check my mail on 
the way home.

I got messages from a couple people who politely indicated they didn't like 
my long .sig file.  I did take care of that a few days ago.  I finally 
decided that it was a little old--unlike with my internet .sig, which I 
change frequently because I'm more likely to see it, I often forget to 
change my trumpet news .sig periodically.

They also noted a couple double postings.  Our system seems to act up a lot 
and on a couple instances items that I tried to send, but didn't go (leading 
me to repost), ended up going through later. Some of the other things that 
the machine does are beyond my explanation....

QUESTION:  On many groups, I see the abbreviation Ob[xxx] (e.g. ObNude, 
ObBeer....) to introduce an on-topic statement following an off-topic 
statement.  I get the *idea* from context, but what exactly does the "Ob" 
represent.  Well, assuming that at least I have the right idea, here's 
one:
ObNude: Thanks, Tom "Happy Bare" Middleton, for the sample Camping Bares 
newsletter you sent.  Sounds like fun.  If I lived in your part of the 
country, I'd probably consider joining.  Your group's credo was especially 
fun, and I'm assuming you won't mind if I share it with the other readers:

		"An anarchist disorganisation dedicated to the
		 destruction of the fabric of our society."

Give that one a really big colon-hyphen-right paren!!!

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From: bi045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John A. Purbrick)
Subject: Re: CO Recreation in MA
Reply-To: bi045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John A. Purbrick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 07:29:19 GMT


In a previous article, kwatsi@athena.mit.edu (Atomic Playboy) asks 
about CO areas within 50-100 miles of the Boston area?

The Puritans live! There's not much.

As always when people ask about CO areas near your-city's-name-here, 
GET THE WORLD GUIDE. It's even more of a FGR (Frequently Given Response)
than answers to The Question.

What the WG will tell you is that the nearest spot is the "Pepperell Sandbars".
I'd never heard of this place (I'm hoping to check it out soon); Pepperell is
about 30 miles northwest of Boston.

You can usually get away with discreet bareness at Plum Island (entrance is
in Newburyport) but they close the beach for most of the summer so seabirds 
can mate in privacy.

Walden Pond at 7am?? (I make no confessions)

Closest other areas are in Vermont and the islands--there are CO beaches on
both Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket. People do go nude on Cape Cod but 
they're being very naughty; it's illegal everywhere.
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From: xxwwxx@mixcom.com (Tim and Tim Company)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: fat people
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:41:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Apr13.034120.17322
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

In article <1992Apr13.005832.8731@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry) writes:
>
>
>I still say that the people who say we shouldn't judge people by their
>size and that fat is beautiful are the fat people themselves,after all,they
>wouldn't put themselves down and we are all beautiful to ourselves.
>If they're happy with the way they look,the it's fine.To each his own,we 
>shouldn't try to force our own beliefs on other people and I'm not here,this
>is just my opinion.
>Can't we end this damn discussion of women more modest,etc on here.
>It's so boring reading the same thing from different people everyday.

I also want to state on my behalf that not all overweight people can avoid
it.  Some are strickened with bad thyroids, some have other physical problems
that don't allow them to become "natural weight".  It's hard in a society that
thinks slim is beautiful, when you are overweight, and your can't avoid being
overweight.

Sure, there are some people that can do something about it, and probably should
for health reasons, but those who can not, I hope people come to understand
that it may not be your fault.

I am personally 5'7" and weight between 250 - 290.  I become sick when I
drop under 250, because I am actually malnourshed and all health problems
roll in.  I maintain a regulated diet, and remain in good health with my
weight.

I enjoy the naturalist way, and those who know that I can not lose weight
don't see me as overweight anymore.  And those who know these conditions
exsist are much better off.

Thank you for your time.


I have one question:  My wife and I will be visiting Las Vegas in May, and
we are looking for any pools in the area that are clothing optional.  We
will be there a week, and hope we can enjoy some of the sun of Vegas as
naturally as we can.

Thanks in advance for the help!


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From: scridd@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Northern Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Analex Corp.
Date: 10 Apr 1992 15:26 EST  

I sent the following by email to Rick Lewis in response to a query a couple
weeks ago but it bounced, therefore I will post it in case he is still
watching for info.

Subject: Re: Northern Oregon coast?
To: kcufgat.fidonet.org!Rick.Lewis
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"Rick.Lewis@kcufgat.fidonet.org"

In article <701667124.0@kcufgat.fidonet.org>, you write...
>Will be in north Oregon in a couple of months?  Any CO beach, resort
>suggestions.  I know that water's COLD but there might be some protected
>beach areas on a sunny day that would be good for some ray time. 
> 
> 
>.... rec.nude is CO/MR.  Clothing Optional/Modem Required.
> * Origin: Howard's Notebook * We Bare It All * (816) 331-5868  (1:280/25.0)

Beaches

Rooster Rock State Park - look for designated CO area.
Sauvie Island (just west of Portland)

Hot Springs

Inner City Hot Springs (in Portland)
Bagby Hot Springs (in Mt. Hood National Park)

Resorts/Clubs

Restful Haven Health Club
POB 248
North Plains, OR 97133
503/647-2449

Squaw Mountain Ranch
POB 4452
Portland, OR 97208
503/630-6136

Preceding information was from World Guide.  Hope that it's helpful.
From: romero@cs.tamu.edu (Ron Romero)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: CO location in Texas?
Summary: Are there any CO places in Texas, preferably by College Station?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:47:43 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

I'm looking for a CO place around me (College Station area), or anyplace
within about a 3-4 hour drive.  There used to be a place called Live Oak
Nudist Restort that advertised in our school newspaper, but I haven't
seen their ad recently.

Thanks a bunch,
Ron Romero
ron-romero@tamu.edu
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From: max@isis.eng.hou.compaq.com (Max Heffler)
Subject: Re: Swimsuits
Keywords: suits, tan lines
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:53:25 GMT

darkelf@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Michael X. Wellck, God-in-Training) writes:


>In article <sfpc2INNlr9@ucsd.edu> gkn@ucsd.edu (Gerard K. Newman) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.215325.9273@vcd.hp.com> neff@vcd.hp.com (Dave Neff) writes:
>[stuph deleted]
>>>swimsuits that let some of the sun through so one can still prevent (reduce?)
>>>tan lines even when visitting less progressive beaches :-).
>>
>>I have a suit made by a company called Solar, which seems to work pretty
>>well;  it advertises that it's the same as wearing a level 8 sunscreen
>>with the admonishment to move the seams once in a while.

>[the following info is two years old]

>the suits provide protection equal to SPF 10...
>To place a credit card order with Swimsuit International, which handles
>Solar Tanning Suits, call 800-458-9640...

They also sell-them as Solar Tan-Thru Suits in Internationla Male and
Undergear catalogs.  I own two and was disappointed with the lack of
tanning there.  I believe the actual SPF had to be greater than 8 or
10...

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From: amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (anmar mirza)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Women more modest?
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:10:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr13.211039.8575
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Apr10.195154.16266@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> amy young <alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>In article <s38jrINN1ss@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>
>>I don't think anyone goes to a nudist/naturis resort to please your eye.
>>I've earned my right to be lazy and to be a couch potato if I so desire.
>>I enjoy eating.  I appreciate the mental beauty of any person who isn't
>>ashamed to be nude, irregardless of what their physique is.
>
>Tom Middleton, I think I love you.  =)

Now now, let's not make Scott jealous shall we?   ;-)


>I like being nude because it's RELAXING... not because of the scenery.
>And the warm fuzzies that those who are comfortable with their bodies,
>reguardless of their shape, is what I enjoy in a nude environment...
>again, not the scenery.

Data point.  I was out at the ranch Friday and spent much of the day
nude (great weather we're having!)  Walking naked down my road (my
road, not the county road) mid 70s out, sunny, no bugs, not too humid,
I sighed to myself and for a brief moment wished that I could always
do that.  Then reality snapped back in place and reminded me of the
soon-to-come mosquitoes, biting flies, and poison ivy.  Around here we
have about a month of really nice weather, perfect for being out nude.
Ah well, the place is shaping up.  Maybe in a couple of years when I
have the lake put in I'll open the place up for general c/o
activities.

I did have a great idea for a sign last fall when some guy and his
wife(?) drove down my road thinking it was an off-road trail and they
encountered me in my natural state.  Even after I donned my shorts,
neither of them would look directly at me.  I'm gonna paint a sign
that says:

	 WARNING!
You are entering a clothing
optional area. If this offends
you, you are welcome to leave.

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From: mjg@sso.larc.nasa.gov (Marston J. Gould)
Subject: Re: Re: Ozone hole farce? (was Re: Ozone problem burns Politically Correct)
Reply-To: mjg@sso.larc.nasa.gov (Marston J. Gould)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:36:41 GMT

David, although I'm not an expert in ozone studies, NASA Langley (where I work) is the lead 
center for the studies of ozone depletion. Currently there is an on-going orbiting project
known as UARS which is the first (of many) to study the effects on our environment
including CFC depletion of ozone.  The larger projects to come are known as Earth Probes
and Earth Observation System. They consist of about 20 - 30 satellites which will study
everything to how weather works (for long term predictions - say 10 - 14 days), impact
to tropical rain forrest clear cutting, Carbon dioxide emmissions. There is even one that
should be launched sometime next year that is being designed specifically to better under
stand the mechanisms in our air that cause CFC's to break down into the chemicals that
eat up ozone. So far though, there are a few things they have found.

1) There is an ozone hole over both polls, they do probably fluctuate in size based on many 
things like pollution, season, and the solar cycle, as well as the cycle of the magnetic
flux created by the earth's own molten core.

2) Trend data show that if seasonal and solar cycle data are accounted for that the ozone 
hole is growing. There are even evidence that many short term ozone holes appear over
many regions of the Earth, such as the U.S. that last on the order of a few days or weeks.

3) The fluorine doesn't disappear. Fluorine, like chlorine is a highly binding element (meaning
it likes to get together with just about anything avaialble. While I'm not exactly sure what
happens to all of the Fluorine, I do know that much of it combines with the hydrogen from
other exhausts (such as completely uncombusted hydrocarbons) and forms acids that fall
just about everywhere. Other portions of it combine with the available oxygen, nitrogen, ozone
(O3) and others to form long molecular compounds, few if any which are benign.

If anyone is really really interested, I might be able to get some really good info from the
project head of UARS who is a friend of mine

Marston Gould mjg@sso.larc.nasa.gov


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