From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:42:03 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
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From article <726677019.AA04883@illusion.tpg.org>, by Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles):
> Hello Steve,
> 

Hello Yvonne.

> 
> Your previous message about Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties said
> 
> 
>  SP> Was your wife a resident in Quebec before 26th August, 1977?
> 
>  Yes altough she wasn't in school anymore at that time.
> 
>  SP> Was your wife educated in english in Canada?
> 
>  New-Brunswick and Qc
> 

She was educated in English in Canada - that is one exception that allowed
her to obtain a certificate.
You said before that she had been educated in English - had that been outside
of Canada, the fact that she had received her education in English and was
resident in Quebec before 26th august 1977 is a nother exception that allowed
her to get a certificate.
Either of these exceptions could have been used. The first comes under the
provisions of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the second comes
under the provisions of Bill 101 itself.

>  SP> One must also prove that one of the parents was educated in english IN
>  SP> CANADA or else was educated in english elsewhere (for most of the
>  SP> first 7 grades - excluding kindergarten)
>  
>  One of the parent had to have received ONE year of primary level
>  schooling in Canada somewhere. That's the extent of what they ask us to
>  show. If anybody qualifies following this rule their children can go to
>  english school.
> 

This is not correct.

The law is interpreted to mean the MAJORITY of one's elementary
schooling (kindergarten does not count) must have been in English school,
and if one was not resident in Quebec before 26th august 1977 then that
schooling must have been IN CANADA.

> 
>  SP> People who landed here after 26th August, 1977 (whether they have 
>  SP> bothered to obtain their Canadian citizenship or not) can NOT send
>  SP> their children to English schools in Quebec even if they were educated
>  SP> in English for their entire lives!
> 
>   Can't really say anything about that since it didn't apply to our
>   situation. Altough up to a point I understand that immigrant who never
>   took english anywhere could be forced to take french. Immigrant who
>   previously had english education should be treated as englophone here
>   IMO.
> 

That is the current position of ALLIANCE QUEBEC.

My wife and I came here from England - we learned French as a second
language in school in England, our children could learn French as a 
second language here (and in an immersion program with plenty of extra-
curricula exposure). Why should we be told that we must allow our children
to be abducted into the French school system and to be assimilated into
the French community here?

I personally don't think there should be any limitations on choice of
schooling. It is immoral.


I'll send you some info.

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