HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Ami
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:01:33 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov4.164552.26917@ida.liu.se> <1992Nov4.202447.10362@ra.msstate.edu>
  <36732@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1992Nov5.175226.6176@gw.wmich.edu>
  <1992Nov6.152823.19839@decuac.dec.com> <1992Nov7.122809.13038@fwi.uva.nl>

>Get this american orientated sh*t off this group and take it to alt.flame,
>and preferrably with a distribution limited to the US.

I agree 100% that the US political stuff should be kept out of
comp.sys.amiga.*, but at the same time, I would advise the entire world to keep
your eye on the new administration.  His doofus policies will probably have
an effect on your life one way or the other (unfortunately).

Now, on to flaming the IDE interface on the new machines.......
Aaaarg, there goes all my SCSI investment until there's a fix!!!
:-(

-Joel
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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Perversion
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:46:58 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <cg.0g1y@ami-cg.UUCP> cg@ami-cg.UUCP (Chris Gray) writes:
>Here's a perverted question: has anyone tried a CBM A2620 (68020 board) in
>an A3000 or A4000? Do they work?

There's no place to plug them in.  The A2000 and A3000/A4000 coprocessor slots
are totally different animals.

>On a more practical note, how expensive would it be to build a 68000 CPU-board
>to plug into the A3000 and A4000? 

That's very impractical.  Such a system would run considerably slower than a
stock A500, since the 68000 to 68030 bus conversion is inherently inefficient.
Not only that, but the 68000 couldn't get to a number of A3000 resources, such
as Fast RAM.  And it wouldn't necessarily be all that cheap, either.

>Chris Gray   ualberta!ami-cg!cg   or   cg%ami-cg@kakwa.UCS.UAlberta.CA


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: Syquest Drive unrecognized
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:26:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

whitley@dallas.sil.org wrote:
> We have a Toaster equipped A2000 with a GVP '030 accelarator.  We have a

Try:

     GvpScsiCtrl -m

 - steve
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From: snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Distribution: usa
Organization: 7th Communications Group


|> Terrific.  Why don't we abandon Congress entirely?
 
|>  Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca)  |  Author of "Death By Boredom" Vols I - IX


Naw, lets just abandon the whole government!
Silly useless organization anyway... :-)

Scott
From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 1200
Keywords: so...
Date: 4 Nov 92 17:43:59 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149

So, when's the 1200 due out in the U.S. and for how much?
-PEROT/STOCKDALE '92!-
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From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:01:06 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1dapidINN6lc@agate.berkeley.edu>, kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller) writes:
> In article <1d9i8gINN9i7@mozz.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>	I'm preparing myself for 2 things, TAX and SPEND.  I figure it won't
>>   take Congress and their newly elected buddy to long before they start
>>   raising everybodies income tax, along with every other type of tax that
>>   they can get there hands on or create.  Look for national gun control 
>>   also, one more freedom down the drain.
>>
> 
> TAX and SPEND is infinitely better than the TAX and BORROW that we had 
> under Reagan and Bush.  Keep in mind that our Federal Deficit every year is
> nearly equal to the intrest that we have to pay on the debt.  Maybe you should
> blame the administration that brought about the debt and not the one that's
> going to take the responsibility to do something about it.
> 
	Well, since the Democrats have controlled the house and senate for
	the majority of the last fourty years, I choose to blame them, not
	the republicans.  If the gridlock congress would have supported
	more of Bush's plans the deficit probably would not have been so
	high.  Time will tell if a Democrat executive branch and a Democrat
	congress can reduce the deficit but, guess what! there is no one left
	for the Democrats to blame if it does not get done.  Starting Jan 93
	the Democrats are on notice.  Problem is the people of the US will
	never hear the truth because a large chunk of money is paid into the
	Democrat party by the movie and televison programmers.  The media is
	pro-Democrat, bought and paid for with viewers money.  God, I'm glad
	the election is over :-)
> 
> 
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization, My opinions only **
From: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: : Green Screen A500? Bad RAM? Help!
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:55:01 CST
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <boozer.05zb@arb.uucp>, boozer@arb.uucp (Chris Griffin) writes:
> 
> I have found that the green screen means a bad chip in the custom chip set.  Probably the fat agnus.  This chip is pretty cheap and plentiful.

I just realised - these diagnostic colours on startup aren't much help to 
someone with a mono screen ;-)

Regards,

John Bennett                                E-mail: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: hbo@netcom.com (Howard Owen)
Subject: Binddrivers problem with A2090 and 2.04 
Summary: It works, but hangs the CLI
Keywords: A2090 AmigaDOS 2.04
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:47:25 GMT


    I've run into a problem reinstalling my old A2090 (NOT A2090a)
with attached ST251 HD onto my rev 4.3 B2000 after upgrading to OS
2.04. If you haven't paniced at the sight of all the rev numbers in
that sentence, read on. 8) I bought this system new in 88, together
with the brand new A2090 ST506/SCSI controller. My hddisk driver dates
from the 1.3 release. I'm using the 1.3 FFS.  In a nutshell, the
binddrivers command works, but hangs the shell that invokes it. This
makes it impossible to mount the non-autobooting HD from a
startup-sequence.  subsequent mounts of the HD partitions work fine.
I've included the mountlist entries I'm using. Can someone please
help?

RES0:      Device = hddisk.device
           Unit   = 1
           Flags  = 0
           Surfaces  = 6
           BlocksPerTrack = 17
           Reserved = 1
           Interleave = 0
           LowCyl = 0  ;  HighCyl = 1
           Buffers = 1
           BufMemType = 0
#

FF0:
    Device = hddisk.device
    Unit   = 1
    Flags  = 0
    Surfaces  = 6
    BlocksPerTrack = 17
    Reserved = 2
    Interleave = 0
    LowCyl = 3  ;  HighCyl = 103
    Buffers = 30
    GlobVec = -1
    BufMemType = 1
    Mount = 1
    DosType = 0x444F5301
    StackSize = 4000
#

FF1:
    Device = hddisk.device
    Unit   = 1
    Flags  = 0
    Surfaces  = 6
    BlocksPerTrack = 17
    Reserved = 2
    Interleave = 0
    LowCyl = 104  ;  HighCyl = 819
    Buffers = 30
    GlobVec = -1
    BufMemType = 1
    Mount = 1
    DosType = 0x444F5301
    StackSize = 4000
#



Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dgb@owlnet.rice.edu (Dennis Gale Brown)
Subject: Re: AGA monitors.
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:26:45 GMT


The NEC series of Multisyncs seem to work well with the Amigas.
If you have to buy a new monitor, the C= monitor is probably cheaper,
but if you share a monitor between computers (Amiga and, say, IBM))
then the NEC would be a good bet... 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: skogaas@solan.unit.no (John Olav Skog}s)
Subject: Blizzard Turbo - A1000 & Sidecar
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:08:05 GMT

Does anyone know if is possible to put the Blizzard Turbo
for A500 (14 MHz 68000 + fast RAM) in the A1000 without
modifications? In that case, will it work with the Sidecar?

John Olav Skogaas

  - skogaas@solan.unit.no
  - skogaas@idt.unit.no
  - skogaas@alkymi.unit.no
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Portable A600?
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:40:33 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Nov9.021454.14432@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> richardr@vast.unsw.edu.au (Richard Vander Reyden) writes:
>Could we possibly have this discussion on American politics stopped as
>it is not of any interest to the rest of the world.

Sorry for everyone who feels offended, but I find it always very interesting
to learn more also about non-computer oriented stuff. Ok, there theoretically
exist better suited newsgroups...

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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga and 64sx hack
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:34:36 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <BxGpLt.3pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

>toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:
>
>>Is it possible to hack an AMiga 500 into a C= 64sx case, and use the 5"
>>monitor? Has anyone done this?
>>Thanks
>>--
>>toma@tc.cornell.edu - Rory Toma
>
>>Opinionated and tunnel-visioned? Darn right. But then, my employer really
>>doesn't know what I'm talking about anyway...
>
>That's a composite monitor.  Try and read 80 column Amiga text on a 5" 
>composite monitor.  iccchhhh

Yup it's possible to hack an Amiga 500 in to an SX64 case. I saw
one such user-cobbled machine up in Sacramento in early July at the grand
opening of an Amiga shop there (no the 500SX wasn't for sale.. the guy just
brought it in to show what he had done). He had also hacked an 
Amiga keyboard onto the thing, and had hacked an Amiga disk drive
into the slot where the C64/1541 drive had been. He loaded and ran a
few games, but again, you couldn't read an 80 column text on that
little 5" monitor to save yer life. 

Harv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Ethernet cards for Amigas?
From: brycerw@brandonu.ca
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:31:05 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Nov9.180225.8275@msdrl.com>, andrews@msdrl.com (Richard Andrews) writes:
> Are there good ethernet cards available for the Amiga 3000?  I am looking to
> link my 3000 with an IBM via ethernet.  I want to share resources like CD-ROM,
> disk space, and tape backup.  I suppose that another IBM running NetWare could
> do the trick.  What other options do I have?  Run UnixWare on the IBM?  

How about Commodore's A2065 ethernet board?  Works fine in my A3000.  Just need
better TCP/IP software, that's all.
> 
> What cost are we talking for ethernet cards for the Amiga?
> 
Don't know for sure.  Think ~$300-400 (guess - can't remember).

> -rla
>   
--Rob

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: How do I connect a SCSI tape drive ?
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:16:31 GMT

Quoth gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green (+61 6 276 6813)):

]> The problem is the tape unit has a _very_ odd looking connector. It _looks_
]> like a centronix socket with 50 pins. My SCSI interface has 2 interfaces, a
]> 50-pin one for _internal_ devices and an 26 (25?) pin connector for
]> _external_ devices.

That centronics-style connector is pretty common for external SCSI connectors
(at least in this neck of the woods).  I have a 25-50 pin adaptor cable I
use with mine.  Bought it at a local computer warehouse, so I imagine you
can do the same :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: accs1@bagheera.mumath
Subject: Upgrade 2090 to 2091
Reply-To: accs1@bagheera.mumath
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 08:58:31 GMT

Is it possible to upgrade an A2090 HD controller to become an A2091 HD controller ?
If yes, what do I have to get to make it work?

Thanks 
Frank


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From: wfaust@venus.adsp.sub.org (Wolf Faust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: HP 300XL & Star SJ48
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:14:17 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

HP 300XL:
Severel  people  asked  me  for a HP 300XL driver.  I may now have
one, but I need someone who does check it out...

Star SJ 48:
Also,  several  people  asked for a SJ48 48 pin driver.  I allways
thought  my CanonBJC driver (fish 738) would work with the SJ48 in
48  pin mode (according to Star, the SJ 48 is compatibel to the 48
pin  Epson  commands  wich is WRONG), but the CanonBJC driver only
works in the normal 24 pin mode.  So I changed the CanonBJC driver
for the SJ 48 and would like somebody to run a simple test for me.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: PCMCIA card slot
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:20:53 GMT

In article <36788@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
(George Robbins) writes:

>The things the PCMCIA slot cannot do is serve as a bus master or as complete
>extension of the processor bus.  It supports two basic modes of operation,
>one is similar to a basic ROM/SRAM/FLASH interface and can be used for memory
>or things that look like memory, the other is similar to the 808X I/O bus,
>with a 64K address space and byte or word wide I/O data...

[..]

>You might ask "where are all these cards"?  At the moment anything fancier
>than a SRAM card seems to be moving from vapor to limited availability. 
>At first everyone was talking about what could be done, and there was lots
>of handwaving, but now there seem to be real devices moving into the
>marketplace.

Thanks, this was quite informative. The CPU slot will presumably be more
capable of sustaining an integrated multipurpose card then I take it?
Given the expansion slot's 150 pin/knockout configuration, would it
be conceivable to create an accelerator/DSP module on a single card?

Looks like the A1200 offers a remarkably open architecture for an
entry-level machine. Congratulations.
From: Darcy@cup.portal.com (Darcy S McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: TrumpPro2000/Maxtor7120 problems, need HELP! (Please!)
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 00:05:59 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa


Make sure in your Device field in the partition that it has DH0, ect
and not AUTO.  AUTO will cause things like this..  :)  found out
the hard way also...

Darcy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: "Stefan Berg" <sgberg@ugly.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Mega Midget Racer is Crashing
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:59:30 -0500

vexar@watserv.ucr.edu (Joe C Solinsky) writes:

>Hello,
>	I have the MMR with the 030 and the 68882 and 8 megs of Dram on it,  
>plus 512K of SRam, in addition to 4 megs on a SupraRam board, plus the 1 Meg  
>chip Ram on my 1989 A2000 (B2000 model), and for some reason or another, it  
>crashes on me when I run things like Cross-Dos, RSLCLock+, AShell, and a  
>variety of simple PD stuff.  I can disable it and circumvent the problem, but I  
>would like to not have to do that.  One thing I have been doing is copying the  
>ROM to SRam for faster access (built in on the one command that does this all).  
>Do you have any idea why this happens?  I get two kinds of errors when it  
>crashes: Gurus and the software error-- task held thing with the requestor.  My  
>friend suggested by the guru numbers that it was a CPU thing.  Got any ideas?
>-Joe Solinsky
>P.S. : please don't ask why I have 13 1/2 Megs of Ram.  It is a long story.

I have an MMR with 512KByte SRAM and no DRAM. I also have 8MB Ram on my GVP
controller and 1MB Chip. I always copy my KS2.04 into SRAM, because that gives
me the best performance increase. I have never had any trouble running in this
configuration. Maybe there is a problem with your DRAM? But from what I know,
the MMR configures it as memory above the first 16MB, so that there should be
no address conflict of all your memory. If you have a SCSI controller with
DMA access, then you might run into problem since it there is no way it can
write directly to the 32Bit memory. But as far as I know, the OS will catch
that and handle it by hand (i.e. making a buffer in 16bit RAM).

If you find the problem please let me (us) know. I was also considering getting
some extra 32Bit RAM. But I certainly don't want to run into compatibility
problems.

BTW... why do you have 13.5MB of RAM? (just kidding... :-)

Stefan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: AGA monitors.
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:35:40 GMT

In article <36802@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
(George Robbins) writes:

>I think the 1960 is maxed out at the 800*600 SVGA type display format,
>though I don't have  a spec sheet handy.

The 1960 is actually capable of resolutions up to 1024x768 (.28mm DP),
while the 1950 is limited to 800x600 (.31mm DP).

Anyone know what the 1950B is all about?
From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiprocessing
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:06:15 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
: Don't know about the Mac stuff: Is it really like several *hardware* *Macs*
: in one box? Or are these other processors not the same as the main cpu?
: If the latter, the Amiga has this too: Our bridgeboards with the Intel
: processors are true multiprocessors, though not the same as the main cpu.
: (And they even have their own slot bus system. But then, you only can have
: one of them at a time, so it's more Dual-Processing than Multi...)

I think that what most people want (when discussing this) and what I do want
is an SMP (symetric multi-processors; a VAX term) Amiga.  I would like the
high-end Amigas to be able to support SMP.

Perhaps, Commodore (engineers) are working on this right now.  Perhaps,
they won't do this until they get a new processor series in the Amiga.
(The 68040 can do SMP due in part to it's bus snooping.)  Perhaps, this
is what Commodore will be announcing at COMDEX.  (Hope.  Hope!  HOPE!)

				-=:[ VAL ]:=-
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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Help debugging my A2000
Keywords: I did it myself :-(
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:22:31 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <fineberg.720920441@wuarchive.wustl.edu> fineberg@wupost.wustl.edu (Charles M. Fineberg) writes:
> What does it mean when you have killed your amiga and it has the
> following behaviour on power up:
> 
> 1) Power light goes on for a little more than a second
> 2) Power light starts going bright then dim 5 times
>    as the screen goes from light grey to darker grey
> 3) Power light does a slightly longer bright and then an even
>    longer dim as the screen goes to black.
> 4) Start at 2) again.
> 
> So you wonder to yourself about now, Charlie, how did you do this?
> The edited version of the long and sad tale is that while installing
> some new stuff, I didn't seperate my 2nd floppy power connector from
> my 2nd floppy by far enough and somehow a big spark flew between the
> two...

The behaviour you describe suggests that the processor is getting
an exception very early on in the cold boot sequence.  Given that the
problem might have come from the floppy problem you describe, I'd
start by assuming that one of the 8520's is blown, if it's not that
it could be anything...

-- 
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but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Does HP Deskwriter = Deskjet?
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:40:37 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1992Nov13.170659.1609@news2.cis.umn.edu> tim@lenti.med.umn.edu (Tim Leonard) writes:
>I have a friend who is upgrading her Mac from a HP Deskwriter
>to a laserwriter and wants to sell her Deskwriter.  Is the 
>DeskWRITER the same as the DeskJET (except for a cable or
>something else simple)?  I want to use it on my A500.

   No.  The DeskWriter only has an AppleTalk connector, no parallel or
RS-232 serial connectors, and no text modes (it's all graphics).  

>Tim Leonard  tim@lenti.med.umn.edu

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