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From: uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedic Maths
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:06:28 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University

In article <1992Apr11.071117.26260@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>#Anyone who has done some reading on the book called `Vedic Mathematics'?
>
>    I had read a few pages of this book at IIT(B). The author of the book is
>one Mr. Shankaracharya. The book had some really fundoo methods for divison,
...
>into algorithmic form but then it got too heavy. Would be good if somebody more
>industrious and diligent and hardworking and sincere and ... (reminds me of my
>reco. letters!) person converted it into a more readable form. 

THE MOST MEMORABLE METHOD I READ WAS A METHOD OF DIVISION :- (1/N) COULD BE 
CONVERTED INTO THE REPETITIVE DECIMAL FORMAT IN N STEPS (FOR ANY N) :- IT
TOOK ME HALF A DAY TO PROVE IT.   You ask me and I would say that it is the 
fastest way of doing division - you cannot have a method that's independent
of N.  The constant O(N) steps ,I think, is quite small -  I read this before
I came to college - so algorithmic analysis couldn't be done.

An informed gent did mail me the following information (will that person,
ovecome his reservations and put more information on this group?) :-

The Indian society of History of Mathematics (ISHM) publishes a journal
called GANITHA BHARATI - on the past mathematical acheivements of Indians.

I am looking forward to getting hold of them.  Maybe my library has them here.
I shall check it out.

Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

if you want to know more about me finger me !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: agni@IASTATE.EDU (Sundar S Rajan)
Subject: Mind Sport 
Keywords:  Illustrated weekly
Reply-To: agni@IASTATE.EDU (Sundar S Rajan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:33:55 GMT


--
	Hi Netters.
	There used to be an abso. terrific column in the Weekly
	( by Jayanth Narlikar,I think ) titled Mindsport. Any idea
	if it is still appearing?
			-sundar/..






	Agni sez :
       ----------------------------------------------------
      |	Q:  How do you play religious roulette?            |
      |	A:  You stand around in a circle and blaspheme and |
      |	    see who gets struck by lightning first.        |
       ----------------------------------------------------  
	
	"Friends call me Lucifer"

	Email: agni@iastate.edu
	Voice: 1-900-GOD-DAMN
From: rajiv@hilltop.mitre.org (Rajiv Kohli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: India.gif, Census count is
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:40:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA


	If I wait for a month, I might must just be able to
	tell how many Indians populate this land.

	BTW, What was it you all wanted? 

	For those, who have asked where I got it from the answer is

	"The envelope please!"

	Clap! Clap! Clap!

	Latest National Geographic has a very good article on
	- Humans and Animals vie for the same Land!

	After you get the map, and you feel that you have a better hard
	copy of it...send it to me and I will scan it for all of us while
	I integrate a end to end link from a video camera, scanner,
	printer and transmission of images for the USAF Intelligence.. 
	It is fun

	If you are a US Citizen with a clean background [You will go
	through a pretty detailed investigation into your past for SCI
	clearance], we have openings - send in your resume. We are looking 
	to fill 5 openings

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From: govil@basic.cs.psu.edu (Shalini G Govil)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian Men
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:21:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State Computer Science


As I read somewhere on the net, Indian men do really classify women as either
whores or as some goddess who can do no wrong.

Im labelled a slut cos I stay with a guy ( even though we have a purely platonic
relationship) , a lesbian cos I volunteer for the Womens Resource Center..
What is this?  Not that theres anything wrong  or degrading
with being a gay/lesbian,( they have my support if they need it)
 but Im complaining about the attitude people go about with. 

Didnt anyone hear about the motto 'Live and Let live'? If u dont like something
thats fine with me, everyones entitled to their opinion.Maybe its healthy
to argue about it sometimes, but u can go around labelling people by your standards..

When will people grow up?

--Shalini
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: suresh@fred.cis.udel.edu (Swaminathan Sureshchandran)
Subject: Re: INDIAN WOMEN & MARRIAGE
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:14:01 GMT

In article <gdsnbde00UhB83yW4l@andrew.cmu.edu> Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>The best example is of some girl(Yashodara Power?) who asked about the
>relevancy of sex to marriage. 

This is exactly the sort of writing that should be avoided. Individuals 
should not be mentioned as far as possible, and quotes from long ago 
should not be discussed without the accompanying context. Moreover, there 
are at least two spelling mistakes in the sentence. 

Indians would do well do learn some basic concepts of communication from 
Americans. 
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:08:19 -0400 
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: on Tamil bboard


Why I'm for sct:

Let it be a bridge across the oceans. Though the crossings of this 'bridge'
endeavor oursleves to mend the 'Broken Palmyra tree.' And this bridge
will bring 
together many who have much to see in their heritage. And history,
arheolgical finds and our values are can lend enough credibility to the
notion of 'distinct' identity for Tamils. Since before the Greeks....to
Karikala Cholana and to Nallur kings. The spirit of 'kapPallotiya
thamilan' hasn't died altogether.

-Suresh 
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:18:36 -0400 
From: "Arun K. Gupta" <ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mr. Gupta: Correlations & Causations



Since the AMUP's essay is not yet complete, don't be in a
hurry to anticipate what its going to say. The AMUP's
(Ansari's) viewpoint is that the real struggle in India
is between the deprived and the rulers, the oppressed and
the oppressor, and Muslims have become (one of several)
convenient targets on which to divert the anger.

More after the essay,
arun
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: News: INDIA  DEVELOPS BATTERY-POWERED BUS
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:39:38 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                Copyright (c) 1992 Comtex Scientific Corporation

                      April 3, 1992, Friday, 9:03 a.m. EST

INDIA  DEVELOPS BATTERY-POWERED BUS

Xinhua
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    THE BHARAT HEAVY ELECTRICAL LIMITED (BHEL) IN BHOPAL,  INDIA,  HAS
SUCCESSFULLY DEVELOPED A 40 PASSENGER CAPACITY BATTERY-POWERED BUS, THE PRESS
TRUST OF  INDIA  REPORTED TODAY.

   THE BUS DOES NOT HAVE AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE AND IS TOTALLY POLLUTION
FREE.

   NO PETROL OR DIESEL IS USED IN THE ENERGY EFFICIENT BUS WHICH CAN RUN AT 40
KM PER HOUR AND COVER 70 KM IN A SINGLE CHARGE. THE BUS HAS GEARLESS DRIVE,
SUPERIOR BRAKING AND QUICK BATTERY WITHDRAWAL SYSTEM.

   FOUR SUCH BUSES ARE SCHEDULED TO BE SUPPLIED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES DURING 1992-93.

============================================================================
Sylvia D. D'Cruz                                
Mead Data Central                               Systems & Product Technology
Bldg. VI, 9595 Springboro Pike                          udcrusd@meaddata.com
Miamisburg, Ohio 45342                                        (513) 865-6800   
                                               
============================================================================
From: ram@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ram Devanathan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:52:41 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois

In article <9204150724.AA13399@ha07.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@HA07.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan) writes:
>  My question is this. If there are Tamils on the net that feel it
>  would serve their interests better to discuss things  "closed
>  -door",so that they are not heckled by numerous private mails 
>  that request them to stop excessive use of a regional language,
>  why should they be dissuaded from doing so?
     I have actively participated in most Tamil discussions on sci over the
last two years. I have never been heckled for "excessive use of regional
language".  Even if there is heckling, should we succumb to it and scurry
to form a soc.culture.tamil? No! We should instead continue posting to sci.
"Kosuvukku bayandhu oora vittu oda mudiyaadhu" - a Tamil saying.
As N.S.Raja pointed out, the articles on Tamil might be of interest to the
general readers of sci. 

>  Secondly, it is possible that Tamils (at least the ones
>  who have been requesting a separate newsgroup) do not find
>  their identities tied to sci, then where is the question of
>  requesting them to post articles on sci? (discounting for
>  the silent majority that might have such feelings). Their 
>  "pursuit of happiness" may well lie in having a separate 
>  newsgroup and in not having to go through the trouble of 
>  deleting all kinds of "junk" that has nothing to do with Tamil
>  and the Tamil-Sub-Culture.
>  Why should the Tamils of Srilanka, Malaysia, Australia
>  and Germany be forced to read articles about the Indian
>  Caste System, North/ South and East/West debates, about
>  the Nehru/Gandhi/Rajiv legacies if they think it is 
>  irrelevant to their culture(Most of the time this is
>  what goes on in SCI).
      Use the 'n' key and a KILL file. You are under no obligation to
read all the articles posted in sci.  

>  Subscription to sci does not preclude Ms. Shyamala or anyone
>  else from benifiting from postings on sct or sco or scg.
>  Isn't this symptomatic of a imperialistic(only in this case
>  it is linguistic imperialism) design in wanting that a
>  subset/minority efface themselves to please an English/Mainstream 
>  issues loving majority of sci. To me, this burning desire to suppress
>  an unwilling minority,(Tamils who have been requesting a
>  separate newsgroup), epitomises a gross poverty in thinking.  
         There will always be minorities who will want to form their
own newsgroups such as
soc.culture.indian.tamil.madras.adyar.kasturba_nagar.near_the_bus_depot
If such people are asked to refrain from posting to sci, you can
complain about cultural imperialism. The issue here is 
granting newsgroups to every concievable minority, when their
aspirations can easily be fulfilled within sci.
RD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajiv@hilltop.mitre.org (Rajiv Kohli)
Subject: India Map..Swamped with Request
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:48:50 GMT


	I have been swamped with request for this color map (india.gif)
	I want
		gif format
		ras 
		ps
		pc compatible, etc,etc
		How do I print it?

	I am going to send it to all those who requested . Be patient 
	about it thought - I am not ignoring u and this was not a 
	wild offer. I will have general instructions.

	However, those who have send request like
	Try XYZ address, and if that doesn't work, try ABC ...Sorry!
	I will only try once through a shellscript - all returned mail
	goes to /dev/null. So far I have "48" requests


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From: acsossc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Food for thought?(Indian Men and Feminism)
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr11@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU "Njan" writes...
AA12838@ho12.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@HO12.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan) writes:
>>
>>     Some food for thought here;  
>>
>>     Bischoff, one of the leading anatomists of Europe, thrived
>>     some 70 years ago. He carefully measured brain weights, and
>>     after many year's accumulation of much data he observed that 
>>     the average weight of a man's brain was 1350 grams, that of
>>     a woman only 1250 grams. This at once he argued was infallible
>>     proof of the mental superiority of men over women. Throughout
>>     his life he defended his hypothesis with the conviction of a
>>     Zealot. Being the true Scientist, he specified in his will
>>     that his own brain be added to his impressive collection. The
>>     postmortem examination elicited the interesting fact that his
>>     own brain weighed only 1245 grams.
> 
>So?!?

	Never mind..
>Njan
Samir 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mrugank va thakor <mthakor@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: INFO REQUESTED ON 1-BR APTS. IN MONTREAL
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:45:59 GMT

I plan to move up to Montreal in August, and will probably make a trip up
first to rent an apartment. Would appreciate any recommendations regarding
areas that would be good to live in, given that I'll be working in the 
downtown area and am not looking to spend a lot of money. One suggestion
I've already had is "Nun's Island", which is apparently a 30-40 minute bus
ride from downtown.

To be more specific about budget constraints: about Can $500.

Please respond to mthakor@copper.ucs.indiana.edu

Thanks!

--M.
From: ram@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ramnath Chellappa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: VERY OFFENSIVE POSTING in SCI
Date: 25 Mar 92 20:39:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Oru "gentleman" aLLAthavan.
From: espdm@warwick.ac.uk (Mr R R Gururaj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: info requested
Summary: info requested
Keywords: info requested
Date: 12 Apr 92 12:47:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

Hello netters...

I will be getting back to India this after 1 year
stay in UK. I am doing my PG here.

Would somebody clarify to me if I am allowed to
take my CD player without paying any duty since I
have been using it here.

What are the rules and the customs duties, if it has to be paid
in any case.. what are the procedures



Thanks in advance

RGR

Please reply back to my above e-mail address
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jon_sree@world.std.com (Jon Sreekanth)
Subject: Visa question : tourist --> working (H1, etc)
Organization: The World
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:21:23 GMT



Yet another visa question, I'm afraid. Please email directly to me, 
and I'll summarize all replies to the newsgroup, without including 
the name of the sender. 

My dad is here on a tourist visa, and he wants to explore the 
possibility of taking up a teaching job here. Any information on 
what we need to do would be most appreciated. 

If it's better to use an attorney, please recommend anyone you
know or have previously used, in the Boston area. 

Thanks, 

/ Jon Sreekanth

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5 Walden St #3, Cambridge, MA 02140         |  (617) 876-8019
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kgg6519@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kamalakar  Gulukota)
Subject: Re: glimpses into telugu classics
Keywords: Telugu classics,Potana,Bhagavatam
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:57:08 GMT

>vnk5651@tamsun.tamu.edu (K V N Gopal) writes:

>>This is for all those who enjoy reading Telugu classics and poetry.I have
>>been recently going through my collection of selected padyams from Telugu
>>classics and would like to share them for with all lovers of Telugu poetry
>>I will start with some padyams from Potana's Bhagavatam .The padyams in this

>>K.V.N.Gopal

Continuing on with some more `chatuvu' poems, I think the best (or the
most heart rending, at least) were those Srinatha is supposed to have
said toward the end of his life.  

Having lived a luxurious life under the imperial patronage of many kings,
he went through a great many difficulties.  Here is what he had to say
on his death bed...

Kaashika vishwesu galise Veera Reddy,
	Ratnaambaramule raayadichchu?
Kailasa giri Banta Mailaaru vibhudege,
	dinavechchame raaju theerpagaladu?
Rambha goode thenungu raayarahaththundu,
	Kasthoori ke raaju prasthuthinthu?
Swargasthhu dayye Vissana manthri,
	Mari hema pathra annamevari pankthi doraku?

	Bhaskarudu munne devuni palikarige
	Kali yugammuna nika nuta kashtamanuchu,
	Aruguchunnaadu Srinathudamara puriki
	Divija kavi varu gundiyal digguranaga!!

[Saaransham:	The great king Veera Reddy has met with the
		Vishwesvara of Kashi.  Who is going to now give me
		bejeweled clothes?

		Panta Mailaru's king has his soul resting on the Kailasa,
		who is going to pay for my daily needs?

		Telugu Raayalu has gone to have fun with Rambha in Heaven,
		who will I praise to get the best perfume?

		The venerable minister Vissanna is now in Heaven,
		whose home am I going to get meals in a golden platter?

			Bhaaskara went to the lord even before all this,
			Due to all this, it is very difficult to live anymore
						in the Kali yuga
			So, Srinatha is now going to heaven,
			As fear enters the heart of the court poet of Heaven!!
]

My translations, needless to say, don't do full justice to the original.
However, I dare to do it for two reasons:  Firstly, if anybody who
does not know telugu reads this, I wish them to atleast get an idea of what
is going on.  Secondly, Tranliteration into Telugu would perhaps be 
easier if you know what is being said.  This is why I have preserved
the line structure.  The first set of lines is the first line of the poem etc.

Enjoy.

Kamalakar Gulukota


Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:13806 soc.culture.nepal:177
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.nepal
Subject: The Story of Mahaa-Tejasvi-Rishi-Bharadwaaja
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:43:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16584
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


In an earlier article, I had talked about the significance of the
jnaana-maarga(path of knowledge) and bhakti-maarga(path of devotion)
in Hinduism. There have been proponents of both in the history of
Hinduism. Debates have raged over the relative superiority of each.

Here is a story from the Puraanaas related to this issue.

This story is also recited in TAITREEYA KAATAKA of the Vedas.

The Story of Mahaa-tejasvi Rishi Bharadwaaja.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Kaathakaas in the Vedas goes as

Bharadhwajo Ha Tribhiraayurbhir Brahmacharyam uvaasa.

Which means that he(bharadwaaja) was the epitome of knowledge
after 300 years of learning the vedas.

Actually, when he completed the first 100 yrs of his life Brahma 
appeared before him and told him that it was time for him to

discontinue his worldly existance. However, Bharadhwaaja placated
Brahma to give him another 100 yrs as he had a lot of the vedic
scriptures yet to master. And by this way he extended his life
span for 300 yrs.

At the end of 300 years, Bharadhwaaja felt totally accomplished. 
In fact, he started to feel proud and even stopped offering prayers
to God.

At this point Lord Vishnu(the supreme paramaatman) approached the Rishi
But the Rishi, did not bow to him. The Lord took him to a huge infinite
mountain and said " Hey Jnaani, this is the mountain of knowledge. But
in these 300 years you have mastered knowledge equivalent to only a
handful of mud. It is futile to pursue knowledge for its own sake
and even if one lives for 5000 yrs, will never learn enough.
O Bharadwaaja, surrender to me. Be devoted to me as I am knowledge itself,
I'm logic, I'm thought, I'm the thinker, I'm the wind, the mountain and this mighty collossus of this
universe. On being one with me, U will be truly enlightened."

Bharadwaaja, immediately fell on the Lord's feet and begged for his
pardon and started his course on the Bhakti-Maarga.

The Moral of this story:

The Path of Knowledge is a bonafide path but filled with lots of
cracks and crevices. What is the use of knowledge when it leads
only to only AHANKAARA(pride). many of us in this present world
(including the so-called-rational-intellectual-atheists) suffer
from this foolish pride.

The path of devotion is one straight path and WILL lead to HIM

In my next article, I will post about the significance of the
Puraanaas and their relation to the Vedas and Gita.

sivaram
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Life is complex, make it simple.
From: keyush@cis.ksu.edu (Keyush Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: looking for a friend
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:42:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

I am looking for Jayram of NIE (national institute of engineering), mysore
who is in some EE/CE/CS in some univ. in massachusetts.

Please respond to sandhya@cis.ksu.edu

Thanks
Shailesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sidana@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ashmeet S Sidana)
Subject: Re: REPOST OF EARLIER NOTE: CONSULTANTS WANTED..
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:16:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.194113.14161@engage.pko.dec.com> alagappan@raaji.enet.dec.com (KANDHA ALAGAPPAN) writes:

       >Consultants with 5 years or more SYSTEM LEVEL EXPERIENCE
       >in the following areas are wanted to work for an New England based

and
       >
       >Please send your resume in the following format as a reply. Include

and
      >
      >PERSONAL     SEX/AGE/WILLINGNESS TO RELOCATE
                     ^^^^^^^ 

In the US, it is illegal to ask for a person's sex (i.e. gender) or
age unless it is required by the job. From your description above it
looks like neither gender nor age should be an issue.

Also, please post jobs in misc.jobs.offerred.

---Ashmeet