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From: mark@nickel.laurentian.ca
Subject: SOLVED: SMC coexist of IP & IPX
Organization: Laurentian University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:52:05 GMT


Greetings Netters,

     I realize many of you are still having problems get IP and IPX to coexist
on the SMC Elite cards. Thanks to Joe Doupnik we found a workable solution to
the problem. Using the latest ODI driver, (SMCPLUS.COM found on the v4.2
Super Disk), and Kermit 3.12 Beta seemed to do the trick.

     The ODI driver can be found at most anonymous FTP Novell sites or even
at Compuserve (GO SMC). Kermit 3.12 Beta is available via anonymous FTP from
WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU. Get the files /kermit/bin/mstibm.exe and /kermit/test/
msr312.upd (ASCII).

     Make sure that in your mskermit.ini file, you add the line SET TCP/IP
PACKET-DRIVER-INTERRUPT ODI before your SET TCP PORT... lines. What this line
does is tell Kermit to read the card setup from the ODI driver and use it as
if it were a packet driver. The beauty of this setup is that you no longer
have to use TELAPI, a Novell commercial product costing $$$. 

     Make sure you follow the instructions in the MSR312.UPD file, specifically
for the options in the NET.CFG file.

     Again many thanks to Joe Doupnik, good job Joe!

Mark Lafontaine
Laurentian University
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada.
MARK@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: marlerb@ucs.orst.edu (Bruce Marler)
Subject: Printing to a LaserWriter IIG from 2.15C?
Summary: Can't get an Apple LW2G to print from 2.15C
Keywords: 2.15C, LaserWriter IIG, Mac Vaps, 1.1
Organization: University Computing Services, Oregon State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:25:52 GMT

I've tried to get an Apple LaserWriter IIG to work with a SFT 2.15C which 
has version 1.1  of the Mac VAP's running. Has anyone out there been able to 
get this to work? I *tried* to install the 2.0 VAP's but received an error 
about a missing 'dtalk.vp0' file.
If the solution is to upgrade to NW 3.11 and the Mac 3.01x NLM, are there 
any problems running an Apple LaserWriter IIG in this situation?

Thanks,

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From: charles@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (NUBIAN PRINCE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Windows 3.1 with Netware 3.11// Shell 3.26
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:31:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

We have a Northgate 486/33 and a 16bit EISA ethernet card in it.
But we have serious problems when we try to run Windows 3.1 over the
network. I am encountering a General Protection fault when I use File manager
and Write over the network.   I installed windows using setup /a for
the network setup.  Then I setup the client using setup /n to copy the
necessary files to the workstation.  At first I could not even open
file manager.  It gave  'WINFILE caused a general protection fault in
KRNL.386 at 1000:bcd3.   Well, I erased all of the windows files and
decided to reinstall it just in case we had corrupted some files i the
process.  I installed /a to a client this time and copied the files to
the server using the verify switch.  Then I setup the client once
again using /n.   The file manager worked a whole lot better; it let
me perform some functions but it crashes when I try to exit with
another general protection fault.

Microsoft wasn't that helpful in that they didn't understand why I was
using a packet driver to speak to my ethernet card from ipx.  They
gave me all sorts of memory suggestions which didn't work at all.
Northgate could only tell me that it was a memory handling error,
whatever that means.  Has anyone else encountered a problem of this
sort and if so, how did you overcome it?  Is it memory addresses or is
it file permissions under Netware.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Mac-->Novell via NFS
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:35:22 GMT

In article <9207271740.AA07794@ctr.com> jeffs@grolsch.ctr.com (Jeff Sundin) writes:
>Any ideas how to NFS mount a Novell drive from a Mac via NFS.
>I don't want to use Netware for Macintosh, I have mainly UNIX
>machines and want to stick with NFS as my medium.
>
Hi,

There are a number of NFS client software packages for the Macintosh.  You may
want to look into products by Cayman and InterCon Systems just for starters.  Be
sure to keep a close watch on the way these client peices handle the file format
mapping.  In other words, make sure that when you copy a Mac file to the server,
it stays a Mac file, and doesn't change to an NFS file.

Hope this helps...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols)
Subject: What's the best lan menu package?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:31:50 GMT


We are using an old doosey of a menu for our client PC's called LanShell.
It is incredibly difficult to add a new menu item etc.  What are considered
the best menu program's these days for Netware 3.11 dos clients?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: PETER@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu (Peter Furmonavicius)
Subject: Pegasus and Charon
Organization: Yale University Computer Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:51:44 EDT

Hello.  I was wondering if someone could tell me where the very latest
versions of Pegasus and Charon may be obtained from?  Is source available?
Thanks in advance.
BITnet:  Peter @ YaleVM      InterNet:  Peter @ YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu
 
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From: maddog@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: BYU packet driver and Z-320 PS/2 mice
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:44:19 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

(Well, here's as good a place as any. . . .)

Got a problem.  We are trying to set up a Zenith 320/SX on one of our Novell
(3.11) LANs.  This particular bird has a PS/2 style port built into the mother-
board.  An SMC 16-bit 10-base-T card is inside.  We are using the BYU packet
driver as well.  (I've noticed some interest in this driver lately.)  :-)

So. . .when the packet driver is loaded, the mouse freaks out (best way I can
think of to describe it!) after about 5 seconds of use.  I have tried every
configuration under the sun.  Nothing works.  Doesn't matter what software
package (e.g. Windows, DosShell, any mouse driven program) or what version of
the mouse driver or WD8003E driver.  Same results always follow.

The problem can be "alleviated" by using a serial mouse. . .but that wastes
a PS/2 port and mouse. . .not to mention a serial port.  Has anybody else seen
this problem?  So far Zenith's only response is "why are you using packet
drivers?"  (Great tech support.)  No, I really don't want to switch to ODI
just yet.  (The prospect of having 1 machine out of 4000 not running packet
drivers just *doesn't* appeal to me.)

Any suggestions would be appreciated. . .even moreso if they are sent via 
E-mail.  Thanks.

Catch me later!

					Maddog
				Programmed to serve. . . .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:59:08 EDT
 <1992Jul22.132642.27926@eds1.eds.com><brian.19.0@Novell.COM>
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <brian.19.0@Novell.COM>, brian@Novell.COM (Brian Meek) says:
[stuff deleted]
>I just want to point out, as Don Provan has, that the decision by Novell
>not to try to support Packet Drivers directly is not a political one.
>This is evidenced by our creation of ODINSUP (NDIS over ODI), and various
>other tools.
I'd always assumed that the reason Novell did NDIS over ODI was political,
as ODI over NDIS would seem to be a much more obvious solution.

I imagine that ODINSUP was developed by the back-room boys, with the tools
to hand (ie information about writing ODI drivers) and adopted by Novell
when it was shown to work, but surely an NDIS MLID would have been as easy
to write, and a hell of a lot easier for the customer to use than ODINSUP?

(ODINSUP does work, don't get me wrong. I even like it. But because NETBIND
is unloadable anyway, I loose much of the flexibility of ODI, and explaining
PROTOCOL.INI to anyone else is now even more difficult...)
>
Aengus
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.novell:6102 comp.sys.att:1917 comp.os.os2.networking:797
From: U53805@uicvm.uic.edu (Ron Vyhmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.att,comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Moving away from Starlan to Novell, OS/2
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:11:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

======================================================================== 18

We're considering moving away from Starlan to OS/2 or Novell.  Some people
say we cannot use our AT&T 10 mbps cards, or our AT&T hubs.  I would like to
know other people's experience with a similar move, and whether or not this
statement by a VAR is really true.

Thanks for your input.  If you want, I will post a summary of findings in a
few days.

Ron Vyhmeister
U53805@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU --INTERNET
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.novell,comp.protocols.novell,comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
From: marc@gauss.math.mcgill.ca (Marc Sokolowski)
Subject: How to obtain statistics on a network
Organization: Dept of Mathematics, McGill University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:11:45 GMT

	Hello everybody,

	I would like to know how to obtain statistics of usage per user,
usage of certain programs and usage per group (and other things like traffic
statistics, etc...) on a LAN NOVELL. The version we use is 3.11. I've heard
there are some tools available, starting with the function MONITOR provided
by Novell itself. Unfortunately, even this doesn't work (probably not put
on the server). The question arose because three departement are using a
certain lab, and it is necessary to determine the proportion of the
contribution each one has to take precisely, based on the number of people
from each departement using the network.

					Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: tpl@hpcpbla.hpl.hp.com (Mark Watkins SW)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Should I config 1740 as standard for ARCSERVE?
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:43:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK.


Hi,

  The Arcserve software performs much better with the 1740 card in STANDARD
mode. There are, as yet, unresolved problems with that particular card in
enhanced mode.

Cheers,

      Mark Watkins
      Computer Peripherals Bristol
      Hewlett-Packard
      Bristol
      UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Robert Patt-Corner <rpcfod@nimbus.worldbank.org>
Subject: LWP 4.01 over Packet or NDIS?
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:54:26 GMT

We're trying to get LWP to work with our SMC ethernet card in order to
explore DesqView-X.
Unfortunately the ODI driver for our SMC-Ethernet board (3016) doesn't
seem to work, and
the vendor is temporarily or permanently at a loss.  The board is fine,
working just dandy
with NDIS and Packet drivers.

Is there a way to run the LWP IP stack over Packet or NDIS rather than
ODI?  If so, how?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: skc@Turing.ORG (Shriram K. Chaubal)
Subject: Re: Novell IPX / NET Layers (ODI or not to ODI)
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:30:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.130553.3924@paladin.american.edu> jkight@american.edu writes:
>
>is no longer supported...I started taking a look at ODI and pdether.
>
>What are the general opinions / plus and minus' out there?
>

PDETHER does not work well with IPXODI! The only combination I have working,
is PDETHER with IPXODI 1.0. This may suit your needs .. but IPXODI 1.0 is
old and none of the newer IPX's seem to work over PDETHER.

Also a lot of vendors (No I am not trying to provoke another thread on 
the political correctness of Novell!) find it VERY  easy to brush of your
problem if you dont use a "standard" interface like ODI. My recent example
was with Gupta. They had never heard of a "packet driver" and refused to 
give any intelligent help unless I switched to the the ODI drivers.

Oh well ... Could someone at Novell PLEASE take a look at the PDETHER problem
and give us a FIX :-) ... this would really convince us that Novell is indeed
politically correct! Either that or turn over the source code and a developers
kit to someone who is willing to look into it!

Shri




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From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: HELP!!! How do you Un-Flag Execute Only on 3.11
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:58:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Jul23.185831.4253
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

tom@incom.de (Thomas Staudte) writes:

>There's no way back ! Go and grab your last backup tape and/or reinstall  
>the applications. If you must reinstall the applications, it's wise to  
>install them somewhere else and than just copy the executables. This way  
>you'll save your configuration files. Also, it is usually ok if you only  
>restore the .exe files, as the .com files usually work with execute-only  
>flag set.

I *know* that third party backup software can't backup execute-only
files. Can Novell's? 

Or did you mean, dig up the last backup *before* you made the mistake?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jonas.fogelberg@udac.uu.se (Jonas Fogelberg)
Subject: Re: HP DESKJET 500 C as a system printer
Keywords: Color Printer
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:04:44 GMT

In article <w-woessner.30.712548061@uiuc.edu> w-woessner@uiuc.edu (Bill Woessner) writes:
>From: w-woessner@uiuc.edu (Bill Woessner)
>Subject: Re: HP DESKJET 500 C as a system printer
>Keywords: Color Printer
>Date: 31 Jul 92 02:01:01 GMT

>In article <niederriter.1@vax2.gac.edu> niederriter@vax2.gac.edu (Chuck) writes:
>>Subject: HP DESKJET 500 C as a system printer
>>From: niederriter@vax2.gac.edu (Chuck)
>>Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:26:38 GMT
>>Keywords: Color Printer

>>We just purchased a DeskJet 500 C color printer for use on our 3.11 
>>network and are having some trouble making it print color images.  It works 
>>fine with Quattro Pro over the network (when the printer is attached 
>>directly to the fileserver and when using RPRINTER), but doesn't work so 
>>well with WINDOWS or SIGMAPLOT.  In both cases, it works fine when the 
>>printer is attached directly to the workstation, but not so well when going 
>>over the net (either attached to the fileserver or using RPRINTER).  It 
>>starts to print in color, but stops part way through and prints garbage in 
>>black.  It will continue to print the color image if you change cartridges 
>>repeatedly.  HP and Novell have been less than helpful.
>>Does anyone have any suggestions?  

>>Chuck Niederriter
>>niederriter@gac.edu

>Just a thought, what version of pserver.exe and/or pserver.nlm are you 
>using?  Anything less than 1.22 and you should probably upgrade.  We have 
>been using an HP 500C with Windows and Atlas graphics for a month now and 
>have had no problems.  The only program we have problems with is Draw 
>Perfect (can't say that I am wild about the program anyway)- and that seems 
>to be because of the wierd way they implement color printers.  

>--------------------------------------------+  The difference between
>Bill Woessner                               |  school and a jail is
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>University of Illinois   w-woessner@uiuc.edu|  read. -- G.B. Shaw

I have just read in a magazine, UK Windows User July, that the current HP 
DeskJet 500C Windows Driver is a lousy piece of software (v 1.0 and 1.2 if I 
remember correctly).

The driver can't print colors from some applications, cant print at all
from others etc. According to the magazinde, HP will not supply a Windows 3.1
compatible driver until Q4 1992. The current drivers are said by HP to have 
*limited* Windows 3.1 support... :-)

Jonas

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dagw@ifi.uio.no (Dag Erik Westerlund)
Subject: IPX/SPX for OS/@ 2.0
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:59:53 GMT
Originator: dagw@skuta.ifi.uio.no


Hello !
I have a request from our System-manager. He'd like to test out OS/2.0 on our
Novell nw (2.15) as a major application will be based on tha OS.
What he needs is a driver for the OS, called 
	"IBM LAN Support Program Driver v2.60 (901031)"

Any one out there got a clue wether it's ftp-able (or how to get it otherwise)
??  If theese are not sufficient spec's, please let me know _by E-MAIL_ !!
Answers also by email, answers to the list will not be repeated in a summary
:-) .

Dag Westerlund, Affiliated Computer-person
The Norwegian Deaconry Hospital (Det Norske Diakonhjem Sykehus)
Borgenvn 3c 0369 Vinderen, Oslo, Norway
Ph: (+047)-02-451500 (w), (+047)-02-354741 (p)
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 05:52:27 EDT
From: Michael E. Goldstein <GOLDSTN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: sql with paradox and novell?

I'm looking for help in setting up a SQL server (microsoft)
on an OS/2 workstation, that needs to be accessible to
PC workstations running Paradox 3.5 & Paradox SQL Link off of
a novell server.  Network is ethernet.  If you've done this
or something similar and wouldn't mind anwering a few questions,
please drop me a note...

Mike Goldstein
goldstn@maine.maine.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mcollins@db.novell.com (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: can IPX data be fragmented ?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:58:42 GMT

nsharma@sharm.uucp (Nawien Sharma) writes:
: 
: Since IPX does not fragment like IP , what happens over a wide area network
: when a workstation to server try to establish a packet size greater than 
: intermediate lan segments ? In the following example, is it possible that 
: the NCP packet size agreed upon by the workstation and server can be greater
: than ARCNET's user data size ? I just picked ARCNET as an example. 
: 
: workstation------router--------router---WAN LINK----router--------remote server
: 	   ethernet     ARCNET         FR or X.25          ethernet 
: 

By default Netware will fragment the IPX packet down to 512 bytes when there
is one hop or more Client to Server.

With the use of LIPX.NLM (Large packet NLM) the client and server can negotiate
a IPX packet size that is compatible with both. This NLM is loaded on all
servers that you want the packet size increased.

This NLM is available from Updates and Upgrades 800-Netware.
There is a $30 fee.

: 
: Thank you.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: T104244@r3vm.dsd.trw.com
Subject: Is Novell 3.11 all I need for both PC's and MAC's
Organization: TRW Electronic Systems Group
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:24:25 GMT

Hi Netters!
I know this is a basic question, but I didn't see it in the FAQ...is
Novell 3.11 all I need for both PC's and MAC's...I have 3 PC's and
2 MAC's that I want to network together...using one of the 386 PC's
as the server...I was thinking of getting the new 5 user version of 3.11..
do I also need Netware for MAC 3.01?...is there anything else that I
will need on the software side?  Is there any special hardware besides
network cards, etc...that I need.
2nd question...I was wondering if its possible to run Netware 3.11 on
OS/2 as a non-dedicated server and still have a voice-mail and FAX card
running at the same time...I just want to keep one PC running 24 hours...
if I could do this, that would be great...I assume since OS/2 lets me
run virtual DOS sessions that this is possible...I'm not sure about
how Novell 3.11 will react, though.
Thanks in advance for any advice or info.
Ernie
T104244@r3vm.dsd.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: farc@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Evil Ted)
Subject: pcn2lrpl.nlm and pcn2l.rpl
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:59:35 GMT

Can anyone tell me where I can get the following two files?
PCN2LRPL.NLM and PCN2L.RPL?  I can't seem to find them on any of the
ftp sites, or at least I can't figure out what the zip's should be 
called.


Thanks in advance.
Michael Cabatu
farc@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
University of New Brunswick
Fredericton, New Brunswick
Canada
(506)-453-4552
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Remote booting for Macs
From: howard@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Howard Ross)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:31:00 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.
Keywords: Macintosh, remote, boot
Summary: Can you set up remote booting for Mac workstations?

Does anyone know if there is a way to have Macs boot off a server disk?  Is
there a way to achieve the Mac equivalent of boot ROMs for IBM compatibles?
I would like it to work with both ethernet- and LocakTalk-connected Macs.

Email please. Thanks for any ideas,
Howard

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