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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Steve Vai? OK. GET SOME SATRIANI, BUD.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:45:24 GMT

tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:


>	Steve Vai?  Passion and Warfare wasn't bad, I listened to it several
>times while I was in Germany.  It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great.
>	For all those fans of *REAL* guitar, just settle down and get Joe
>Satriani's SURFING WITH THE ALIEN.  
>	This stuff just blows you away.  It's not the best sound either, but
>his style is incredible.  I think I'm actually beginning to thin the CD!!
>	ANyone else know of any REALLY good guitarists out there (solo, kill
>the group guitarists)????

Hmm...i dunno, Joe is pretty boring if you ask me...all his songs sound like
car commercials or sumthin cheesy.  If you want, check out Chris Poland (of
former Megadeth fame) and his Metalopolis CD.  Not bad, but nothing to write
home about...I really haven;t gotten into it as yet, but you can find it for
cheap...

						the man
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Infectious Grooves- new album??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:24:13 GMT

  I heard from a friend that Infectious Grooves is coming out with another
  album.  Is my friend pulling my leg?  Has anyone else heard of this?  Any
  response would be helpful.


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From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Wehrmacht
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:35:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

In article <108406@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>Wehrmaht.
>
>A friend of mine (lives in Moscow now) taped me 2 albums of WEHRMAHT:
>BIERMACHT and SHARK ATTACK
>
>I dunno how to discribe the music.Well vocal is high, like dude from
>Vio-Lence.Guitar is very thrashing.But fuck drummer works exactly like dude
>from Napalm Death, he even puts more grind in it.I can't really call it
>GRINDCORE cuz of high vox, but instrumental parts are just identical to 
>HARMONY CORRUPTION... Anyone else has heard of these guys?
>

I have both albums -- guess where I got it from... 

They reminded me of Napalm Death but the vocals are weak, to say the
least. As far as the base sound, it is not even close to Harmony Corruption.
It is more like Fugazi but faster and with higher vocals...


Alex.








-- 
These fits of depression are torturing me
The lives that I seen won't breath again
A sad child of madness, they will never be free
Born again to die, the agonies begin...
		 -W.A.S.P. "The Heretic."

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: satkins@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Shannon Atkins)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai? OK. GET SOME SATRIANI, BUD.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:03:14 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>	For all those fans of *REAL* guitar, just settle down and get Joe
>Satriani's SURFING WITH THE ALIEN.

I think that Joe peaked on Surfing.  The kinds of ideas he was experimenting
with on Not of this Earth seemed to gel on Surfing, and practically every
type of song Joe has done since appears on this album.  There's a few straight
ahead rockers, a boogie tune, a two-handed piece, a quiet song, etc..  Both
Joe and Steve ( IMHO of course ) seem to take some of the ideas off of
each previous album and try to refine them into something new.  There is
a riff in "Answers" on PAW that was DIRECTLY lifted from Flexable, and
I'm not talking about a little squeal either.  "Summer Song" could have
had solos from "Surfing" carted with no problem, and in one of the new
Joe tunes he quotes a lick from "'Potato" as well.  As far as clean guitar
shorts go, "Brother John" is cooler than "Tears in the Rain," and for
some reason "Friends" sounds like a cranked, less intimate rendition of
"Always wyawm."  The new Joe sounds like he hired a drummer and a bassist
who sound like Joe on bass and the good ol drum machines on his other 
stuff, and I just don't think he is open to much creative input from 
other musicians so his music comes out sounding sterile and old.  Of
course, my friend disagrees with me entirely, so it's really just 
personal preference as to which Joe is the best.  I would recommend
Surfing for those wishing to get into Joe music.
-S. Atkins-

  
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: How to spell Yngwie
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:53:24 GMT

In article <1jnq66INNbb4@menudo.uh.edu> st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>
>Here's how to spell that certain guitar player's name:
>
>O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D.

As a composer, yes, as a technical guitarist, no, as a complete musician, I'd
have to say yes. 
>
>And, if you want the original Hebrew:
>
>B-O-R-I-N-G.
>

Well, I think he's fun to listen to, if only to see how much classical music
he rips off and thinks he can get away with. Most of the stuff he plays I 
played before on piano or violin, solo or in an orchestra, so it's just fun
listening for me.

>Malmsteen sucks.

No, he's just not terribly original and too much of a show-off.

 There is no feel in his playing--it seems like the whole
>purpose of his songs is to find out how many notes he can play in a certain time
>period.
>

I still think it's kind of fun listening to him play like that, though. I
wouldn't mind being able to play like him, but yeah, he needs a bit of emotion
in his solos. They seem too arpeggiated or scalar to be good solos.

wei hao
Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
From: sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Poland-->Testament
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:17:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-17.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

THIS IS NOT A RUMOR!!! THIS IS ONLY A SPECULATION!!!  
	If the actual rumors of Skolnik leaving Testament are true, then  
who could fill the gap??? (and it will be a very *large* one, folks)  This  
band definitely will start to suck if they don't find a replacement good  
enough to at least show hard determination to fill in for Alex.  
	That's why I believe one dude who's got the time and *enough*  
comparible talent is Chris Poland (x-Megadeth guitarist).

Reactions??? Comments???


					-- Sunrise
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ludwigt@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Thomas Ludwig)
Subject: BRUCE WILLIS CD wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originator: ludwigt@sunjessen21.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:47:42 GMT


Hi out there!

Is there anybody in the world who owns a 

	BRUCE WILLIS - Compact Disk


I can"t get this CD in Germany anymore, because they are
taken out of the catalog, so I can't order them anymore


I'm looking for


	CD 1:   The Return of Bruno

	CD 2:	If it doesn't kill it just makes you stronger


If you want to sell them please E-mail. It's a clloecters item
for me so the price almost doesn't matter

my adress : ludwigt@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


	Thanks in advance

-------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas "Big L" Ludwig      *****  *  *****   *
TUM Munich,  Germany       *   *  *  *       *
			   *****  *  *  **   *
			   *   *  *  *   *   *
			   *****  *  *****   *****
A little story:
   This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody
   Anybody, and Nobody.
   There was an important job to be done and Everybody was
   sure that Somebody would do it.
   Anybody could have done it, but nobody did it.
   Somebody got angry about that because it was Everbody's
   job
   Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized
   that Everybody wouldn't do it.
   It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody
   did what Anybody could have done
-------------------------------------------------------------
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: "Sweet Leaf"
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:36:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1993Jan26.164523.21534@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>I was under the impression the song was about tea, and it was coincidence
>Ozzy happened to be coughing from too much pot right at the beginning but
>for some reason they kept it. Anyone care to explain this? I really have no
>clue about this except what I hear as rumors.



It's not OZZY's cough, but Iommi's.

Iommi coughed to death and guys made a fun and recorded his cough.

So then it end up on the record to open SWEET LEAF
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:51:51 EST
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Danzig -- Gods Concert

On Dec 6 the Great Glenn decended on Buffulo's Connecticut Street Armory
during his How the Gods Kill Concert.  The building (a fallout shelter
for a nuclear war) was this huge gothic castle.  Inside Danzig brought
his full stage setup.  Two towering columns upon which stood twisted
eagle-like gargoryles.  The drums sat atop the old Danzig skull as the
new one watched from the canvass behind.  The set list includes
(songs prolly not in order)

Overture of the Rebel Angels (intro)
Godless, Snakes of Christ, Left Hand Black, Twist of Cain, Her Black Wings,
How the Gods Kill, Pain in the World, Am I Demon, Dirty Black Summer,
Sistinas, Evil Thing, She Rides, Do you Wear the Mark, Mother,
Long Way Back From Hell

Encores:  Killer Wolf, Trouble

The only thing wrong with the concert was its short length.  Danzig was
only on stage for an hour and a half.  In addition the opening band was
Kyuss, which played for about 30 to 40 minutes.  (Kyuss was also touring
with L7 when I saw them).  Its hard for me to judge a band if I've only
heard them live.

Oh and Danzig didn't kick anybody's ass during this concert...

--an eyeball loose and wild, dropping memories out upon the open tiles
Suaron
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Metal vs. Rock
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:49:43 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <93026.230200TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>For example when I was forced to the prime material plane and take on
>flesh I was born as me, and not my father.  Yes my father had his hand
>in shaping me, but I am not my father.

Ahhhhh...but it's what he *did* with that hand that I'm interested in.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  The Lord is my Shepherd............................but I'm not a Sheep
-----------------------------ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie-------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: nmorgan@cck.coventry.ac.uk (SLIVER)
Subject: Re: whats metal (Re: Here's one for Suaron)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:27:27 GMT

In article <93022.011654TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.111006.25678@nntp.hut.fi>, m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti
>Varis) says:
>>
>>In article <107704@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>>>In article <93019.183303TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>>Who's not a poser on my list...well here goes a small list of all
>>>>non-poser bands.
>
>><...>
>
>
>>>How abt DarkThrone, Tiamat, therion, Black Sabbath, Possessed, Venom,
>>Entombed
>>>Reverend.... Jesus above was just fucking mainstream..
>
>
>>This is getting ridiculous. Seems like you are arguing who's
>>_the_true_metalhead_ or something...
>>"-you're just fuckin whimps, I'm the only true metl fan in this newsgroup...
>> -you call _that_ metal, fuckin mainstream. i'll tell you what's METAL..."
>
>>Jesus it's only rock'n'roll...
>
>No, its not rock'n'roll!!!!!   It METAL!!!!  And we don't use Jesus in
>this fucking newsgroup!   Its Satan, Lucifer, or Glenn!!!!!  You fuckin'
>poser!
>
>>Yeah, I know the times are bad
>>When it's hard to run, nowhere to hide
>>All I got left is a bread and a bottle of wine
>>And I'm feeling fine...(Masters Of Reality/Gettin' High)
>
>--so what, so what you boring little cunt
>Suaron


Don't be a fucking prick pal......I'm talking about the guy mentioning satan 
and all that shit.You my good man are a first class penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do people insist on associating the devil with metal.....the guy doesn't
exist (nor does God for that matter).Stop wasting people's time and get down
to the real issues which is the fucking music.I think Sauron is an idiot!!!!
Music is what matters ,man.Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 17...Pantera...wolverhampton civic hall.Yeeeeeaaaahhhhhh!!!!

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai Questions
Reply-To: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:16:40 GMT

>Hey, anyone heard "Flexable Leftovers"?

Flexable Leftovers was released after the original Flexable and has some
leftover material from the sessions.  The cd version of Flexable has both the
original Flexable as well as Leftovers on it.
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Steve Vai? OK. GET SOME SATRIANI, BUD.
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:32:07 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:


>	Steve Vai?  Passion and Warfare wasn't bad, I listened to it several
>times while I was in Germany.  It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great.

It sucks except for about two songs. The cover should show him
holding a synthesiser rather than a guitar.

>	For all those fans of *REAL* guitar, just settle down and get Joe
>Satriani's SURFING WITH THE ALIEN.  

Satriani is all flash and no substance. Much like Yngwie.

>	This stuff just blows you away.  It's not the best sound either, but
>his style is incredible.  I think I'm actually beginning to thin the CD!!

Each to his own.

>	ANyone else know of any REALLY good guitarists out there (solo, kill
>the group guitarists)????
>	I'm implying Hard Rock-Heavy Metal solos, and not so much Eric
>what's-his-name.  And DON'T even mention Alex Masi.  I bought a cassette and it
>STANK.

Well you might like Neil Young's `Ragged Glory' album. It is
pretty grungy and he uses distortion really well. I don't
think you would like Young's other albums. They tend to be
accoustic but they are still brilliant. Actually his
accoustic is better than his electric.

Jed
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Sepultura 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:18:30 GMT

jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg) writes:

>schandr@eos.ncsu.edu wrote:
>: 3)  How good is "Morbid Visions" (the only one I don't have to my
>:     knowledge) compared to the other three?

>Morbid Visions is from their Death-metal period, and since that's not my
>favorite metal-style (I'm more into thrash and speed), I'm not very excited
>about this one. I do like it, but simply don't love it. And even when you do
>like death-metal, I don't think this is a classic one. The songs are not
>very well produced, and the guys had to learn a lot when they released this
>one (what they did, because I really love Arise).

Gotta agree and add my own  here, and, of course, it depends on what you like.
Yes this is DEFNITELY their most deathy album, and it is raw raw raw.  If
that's what you like, I would say go for it, but it is pretty different from
the rest.  One thing that is cool is you can compare the old and new versions
of Troops of Doom....very cool both ways.  You will find it different than
Sepultura, but I would get it if you can find it semi-cheap.  I wouldn;t pay
a whole lot for it, but it is nice to have a complete collection.  :)

						the man
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: I have an Angel Witch GIF
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:08:32 GMT

It's in full colour and is scanned off the live album (in my opinion, it's one
of the best covers for any heavy metal album ever released). I'll send
it only by e-mail if you're interested.

wei hao



Wang Wei Hao                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Cannibal Corpse
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:37:24 GMT

In article <MILAMBER.93Jan20160928@krynn.solace.hsh.se> milamber@krynn.solace.hsh.se (Per Persson) writes:
>	Hello.
>Just wondering if anyone out there got the lyrics written down... I have all
>their recordings, but not any texts :(
>
>They are so great great great... just wish I had the lyrics to...

	In a perfect world, you would own a CD player, and would have the
lyrics which are included with the disc.

Cutting from neck to anus,
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
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From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Which Judas Priest to get?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 01:01:57 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <2418@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, slayer@cislabs.pitt.edu (Deborah) writes:
>In article <1js8bvINNfm6@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!) writes:
>>In article <C18oMo.GpF@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>>>In article <1jluv8INNsqh@nemesis.muppet.bt.co.uk> bart@muppet.bt.co.uk writes
>>Well the Monster of Rock thing is pretty stupid, but on the whole I like
>>RiD better then PK. On PK, granted the title track is great, but the rest 
>>doesn't leave any impression in my mind. This is one of my least heard CDs. The
>>songs just sound all similiar to me, and the 'ballad' stuff in the end is 
>>this OLD heavy metal I really dislike.
>>RiD on the other hand does contain quite a few good (and distinct) songs,
>>it's not as poppish as Turbo, and has this extremely funny Chuck Berry cover.
>
>I have PainKiller and it is kind of gathering dust on my cd rack.. I really
>do not listen to it that much.. I prefer very early Judas Priest to the
>new stuff I think Rob's voice is so much powerful back then.. A lot of
>people think the guitar work was too simple and now it is more complicated
>and good to listen to.. But in my humble opinion I would rather listen to
>early JP any old day.. I think my favorite one so far is Sad Wings Of 
>Destiny..
>
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>May look a little young 
>So what's wrong ?
>You don't have to be old to be wise
I've said it before and I'll say it again; old JP is far and away more
innovative
and moving than the newer stuff.  I really do consider them to be one of the
all-time worse sell-outs, and I use to rank them with Black Sabbath as my
favorite rock band.  I'd put Stained Class on my top 10 fave albums of all-time
list.  Eric M.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Which Judas Priest to get?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:01:35 GMT

In article <1jluv8INNsqh@nemesis.muppet.bt.co.uk> bart@muppet.bt.co.uk writes:
>In article ofLBu3200WBN09Rmpx@andrew.cmu.edu, dk3y+@andrew.cmu.edu (David-Hyung Suk Kim) writes:
>>
>>Can anybody recommend me some good Judas priest albums to buy? 
>>Is it safer for me to buy the priest live and Best of priest or shall I
>>collect the good ones? 
>>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> 	In the UK, Rocka Rolla & Sad Wings... have been put on one CD at mid
>price, which is a good intro to the older stuff (minus a couple of tracks, this
>release is the same as Hero, Hero)
>
	The difference being that all the _Rocka Rolla_ songs on _Hero Hero_
are remixed.  This is particularly noticeable in the songs Rocka Rolla, and
the Winter/Deep Freeze/Winter Retreat epic.  I prefer the original versions
myself.

>As for the new stuff, check out Screamin for Vengeance, or Defenders of the Faith,
>especially the song "The Sentinel" The last two albums are pretty cool, in 
>particular songs like Blood Red Skies and Nightcrawler.
>
	The last TWO?  I like Painkiller, but Ram It Down is the worst album
they've ever conceived.  A few good songs, but that's it.  I even like Turbo
more than RiD.

>Then there's Turbo... :-\
>
>Well IMHO, Turbo isn't the turkey everybody makes it out to be. I like Locked In,
>and I also think the Turbo songs done on Priest...Live are brilliant, especially
>Out In The Cold.
>
	For ultra-commercial metal, Turbo is awesome.  For Judas Priest, it's
disappointing.  If another unknown band had released this album, I believe many
would have ranted and raved about it because it's a great party/cruising album.
But for JP, it was a letdown.  My favourite JP album will always be Sad Wings
Of Destiny.  Sheer genius.

Considered dead,
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
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