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From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu)
Subject: Re: Life Circuit
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:23:43 GMT

>Hello,
>
>Has anyone tried the new fitness/body-building machines 
>that make up the "Life Circuit"? (I am not 100% sure this
>is the exact name, but this is what they are called at the
>Recreational Center of Purdue).
>
>I'd like to know the opinions others who tried them.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>George S. Kardaras

	Yes. As soon as they came out, I've been working out with the Life
Circuit Set 3-4 times a week combined with 30-45 minutes a day of aerobics.
The results have been excellent for tone, although not necessarily for
extreme muscle buildup. 
-- 
Chuck Siu                      |  Things that
CAS Systems Consulting, Ltd    |  go "Schwing!" in the night...
chucksi@comm.mot.com           |
From: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Lower back tapes???
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:52:27 GMT
Reply-To: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Distribution: na
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis, MD

Can someone suggest a good video for improving lower back strength and
improving posture?  I would like to tone my body and do not want anything
that impacts in it.

Leila


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"Beauty and the Beast, well thought of by people who think." ---
Roy Dotrice
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From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: RUBBER BANDS!
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:57:58 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

I recently bought a Weider home gym that uses resistance in the form of
"rubber bands" instead of weights, I have never had a lifting program
before but I have used home gyms with plates and the results are much
different. With the plates I would be sore for up to a couple of days and with
the rubber bands I am sore for a matter of minutes. I am feeling pretty good
since I've started training with it but I assume I would get better toning and
building with free-weights or plates, is this true or is it my imagintation?
Also, is there a more correct term than "rubber band"?...
"I don't drink water, fish f*ck in it"
 -W.C.Fields
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Protein
From: Maloaufaatasi.Wendt@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Maloaufaatasi Julius Wendt)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 07:44:52 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand 


So, how much protein should I (a casual bodybuilder) have at each meal ?

How often should I have meals ?

Should I rely on protein shakes very much, or even at all ?

These may be FAQ's but a lot of guys around me seem to have differing opinions.

 - Tuss.
From: lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Protein
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:04:23 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <92096.162049IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.) writes:
>

>What is meant by 1.75/2.5 ounces of protein?  How does that translate
>to grams?
>

1 ounce is approximately 28 grams, so 1.75/2.5 ounces is 49/70 grams.

========================================================================

<Usual Disclaimer>        "The best is the enemy of the good" - Voltaire

Leon Traister (lmtra@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com)

c/o Amdahl Corporation            (408)737-5449
1250 E. Arques Ave.  M/S 338
P.O. Box 3470
Sunnyvale, CA  94088-3470
From: ruby@raid.dell.com (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Soy Milk & Veggi Protein
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:41:06 GMT
Reply-To: ruby@raid.UUCP (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff)
Distribution: na
Organization: Dell Computer Co

In article <1992Apr8.215036.26022@hellgate.utah.edu> kim%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kwansik Kim) writes:
>Does anyone know where I can purchase soy milk ?
>I almost gave up getting used to dairy products.
>Local supermarket doesn't seem to carry. 
>
>Kwansik Kim

Try your local oriental store.
-- 
-- 
the electron surfer				Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff
Dell Computer Corp				9505 Arboretum Blvd
From: ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Swimming and Suits
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:48:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr14.164828.7806
Reply-To: ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


For those that swim out there do you find it comftable with a bikini or
boxer to swim?
-- 
	It may not be today, or tomorrow but the truth will comeout.

 
 AH238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU                            --------->>>>>>>>>>JAZ
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org (Freedman)
Subject: most efficient use of time
Keywords: Metabolizers
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:29:14 GMT

   I am trying to keep myself fit (and thin) using the C. Bailey
approach, ie diet(low fat), aerobic excercise, and strength/muscle
building. I run for aerobics. For strength/muscle building I belong to
the corporate health club which is well equipped with free weights and
machines. Obviously I can't spend a lot of time there (lunch hour
really). What excercise/routines can I use to make most effective use
of my time in there given that I want to build strength/muscle mass.
Note I have only about one hour there 2-3 times a week. I have some
weights and a bench at home too.

                                     Jerry Freedman,Jr
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re:Ab routine
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:48:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr15.164818.3141
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

I work my abs 5 times a week.  I don't do sit-ups at all.  I just
do 3X20 hanging leg lifts(no extra weight), 3x20 cable ab crunches(175 lbs-I
used to use 200lbs, but a sign went up after the cable machine broke that
the max weight used should only be 175), v-crunches on a bench(as many as
I can do), and something that I don't have a name for.  I lie on a bench; 
somebody stands on my
feet.  Then I put 30 lbs.(max) on the cable machine, and hooking a strap
to the lower cable and holding it around my neck, crunch down to my legs.
Ideally, I guess someone very strong could also strap something around
their feet and crunch with both the upper and lower parts of the body, but
I can't do that.

I don't do all of them every day...I just pick two and alternate.  And I
take 5 second rests between sets.


I surely do not have a washboard stomach, just defining lines going
down the middle and sides of my abs.  I don't know how people get that
washboard stomach.  Is it genetic?
From: grs02502@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Back Thickness
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:01:22 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University

In article <4679@cluster.cs.su.oz.au>, geoffl@extro.ucc.su.oz.au ( Geoff Langdale ) writes:
> Over the past few months I have been doing lots of chins to the back of the 
> neck, pulldowns etc. Ever since I started doing rear chins (I used to only be
> able to do 4 unweighted :-) I have seen a _dramatic_ improvement in back
> width. This is really good... but...
> When I look at my side in the mirror, you see a reasonable chest in front, but
> all my back mass seems to be in one plane down my back. I feel like half a man!
> What programs do people out there use to build back thickness? I have heard
> recommendations of bent rows, seated cable rows, t-bar rows - all sorts of 
> things but few really definite things about which exercises do what - or what
> set/rep combinations people use.
> I have trained for about a year now, the last six months of which have been
> fairly serious (4/5 workouts a week). I have done some row-type exercises but
> not followed them with any great persistence - spending more time on width
> movements.
> 
> Looking for advice,
> 	geoffl@extro.ucc.su.oz.au


Medium to Wide grip Bent Barbell Rows are your answer.  This exercise primarily
involves the rhomboids as the muscle group performing the functional
contraction.  The trapezius, latissimus dorsi, posterior deltoids,
infraspinatus, teres major, and teres minor also play roles in the functional
and forced contraction.(Functional contraction is the contraction of a muscle
that is primarily moving the weight. Forced contraction is the contraction of a
muscle that is primarily being caused by another muscle group and by assistance
to that muscle group.)  These muscles are the muscle you want for back
thickness.  How many reps?  There is ALOT of confusion out their these day
about how many reps.  It comes down to this...higher reps build muscle but not
necessarily strength.  Lower reps build strength but not necessarily muscle. 
It has been found that 10 reps will cause the greatest change in lean muscle
tissue while decreasing body fat.  It has also been found that 5 reps produces
the greatest gains in muscle strength with minimal changes in body composition. 
So what do you do?  This is where periodization comes in.  Start your training
cycle with about 3-4 weeks of 8-12 rep training(10 being the "magic" number). 
This will produce the greatest positive changes in lean body tissue.  Matveyev
called this the preparation phase while Stone and O'Bryant call this the
hypertrophy phase.  Next, move into a 3 week phase of 5 reps.  This is called
the First transition phase or the Basic Strength Phase.  This will build
strength in the muscles without too much of a body comp change.  This new
strength will allow you to lift more weight in your next hypertrophy phase. 
Because you can lift more weight for the 10 reps, you will have further
increases in lean body tissue ie. GROWTH and PROGRESS.  Try this out and see
what you get.

Hope this helps,
-Brett
From: ds17@gte.com (Douglas Sager)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Query
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:47:03 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA

I am having trouble finding raw milk and have found pasteurized and non-
homogenized milk which is closer to raw milk.  Have tried the health food
stores and they carry only pasteurized and non-homogenized milk.  The
supermarkets stock homogenized and pasteurized milk only.  

Raw milk is better than pasteurized milk for arthritics.

Any suggestions as to where I can try?  Stores at dairy farms?

Also I'll like to know what the dangers (if any) of drinking raw milk are?

I know the reason for homogenization in that the fat is permanently mixed
with the milk.  And I don't understand why the health food stores sell
pasteurized and non-homogenized milk rather than raw milk.  I have seen
raw milk cheese.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 13:58:22 MST
From: <ICKMC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Cybergenics

Does anyone know anything about the Cybergenics products (weight training
supplements)? I only know of one person who has used the products and he
gained about 20 pounds and alot of bulk, however, I'm not sure that this
actually has anything to do with the products themselves or the workout
program he used.

Please send replies to ICKMC@ASUACAD. Thanks.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: tsasaki@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:33:35 PDT

An hour should be plenty of time to lift if you want to strengthen.  Is there a
stationary bike there?  If so, start with about 6-8 minute ride to warm up you
muscles.  Also, be sure to stretch before lifting.  You should also create some
sort of lifting program, such as upper body on Mon. and Thurs., lower body on
Tues. and Fri., taking Wed. off (or whatever works for you.)  After warming up,
then start your lifting.  For example, if you're working upper body, you'll be
working bi's, tri's. pecs, lats., shoulders, traps, and abs.  (If you find you
can't do all this in an hour, you can further break down your workout - i.e.
bi's, tri's, lats, and traps in one workout, the rest in the next)  To build,
use heavy weight, low reps.  Maybe about 3 sets of 6-8 reps.  To tone, low
weights, high reps, such as 3 sets of 10-12 reps.  Hope that helps you develop
a program you can do in an hour.  Maybe your problem was that you were trying
to work EVERYTHING EVERYDAY?

					Tania
					tsasaki@pomona.claremont.edu
From: ruby@raid.dell.com (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Back exercises???
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:25:58 GMT
Reply-To: ruby@raid.UUCP (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff)
Organization: Dell Computer Co

In article <1992Apr7.225853.1438@walter.bellcore.com> dsm@ctt.bellcore.com (David Miller) writes:
>
>>I have occasionally had problems with my upper back - most
>>probably a muscle sprain or something.  It has always happened
>>when I wake up in the morning
>
>I was just about to post on this topic when I saw your message.
>My question is also about exercises to strengthen back muscles, but I
>may have some advice for you...
>
>He told me that the muscles in the back are needed to help re-align
>the spine, and keep the shoulders back in the correct position (I'm
>slightly round-shouldered which he says is worsened by the fact that
>my chest muscles are tighter and stronger than my back muscles...)
>
>Anybody know any exercises and/or stretches which will work the
>muscles in the mid to upper back???  I've done lower back routines,
>and I've done lots of rows and lat pulldowns, but I don't know of any
>exercises which will specifically work the muscles in the back that I
>need to...
>
>Any help at all would be appreciated,
>Dave.

How about bent rows, barbell or dumbbell.  Some gyms also have a pulley
row machine that's good for both the upper and lower back.  You can also
do an isometric exercise where you stand with feet together, arms forward
resting on something approximately a foot above your waist, and you pull
yourself forward with your back (in other words, act as if you're trying
to pull the immovable object, and instead your body goes forward).  Your
feet need to be about 1 1/2 feet away and legs slightly bent.  When you
pull forward, your arms will bend.  Make sure the back is doing the 
work and not your arms.  This is true of all exercises, of course, where
you're trying to isolate a muscle.  When you do the lat pull downs, are
you concentrating on using your back and not your arms and shoulders?

You'll have to be careful, though, since any of the back exercises could
also be aggravating an existing problem.  You may also want to try and
figure out possible sources for the back problems.  I get most of mine
from just being so stressed out all the time.  Maybe relaxing more will
help some people.  Sleeping in a bad bed is a big problem, too.  A good
massage is always helpful, since the muscles don't seem to want to 
relax by themselves once they've tensed up.

As far as stretching, the most effective way I've found is holding your
arms forward, hands clasped together, head down, and just try to push
those arms out and widen the back.  You can also do this by wrapping your
hands around a leg, but this will stretch your lower back more than upper.

Hope this helps.
-- 
-- 
the electron surfer				Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff
Dell Computer Corp				9505 Arboretum Blvd
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Subject: Re: slim shake, NOT! 
Reply-To: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:55:29 GMT

Norman Bernstein says:

>When a product label indicates the number of calories, they are
>referring to the total carolies in a single serving.  By adding in fat,
>protein and carbs again you are calculating a non-sense number.
>
>The actual calories per serving in a bottle of "slim shake" is as
>indicated on the product packaging.


	What?????????????   This response doesn't make sense.


     The breakdown of carbs, protein, and fat on a food label is for a single serving also.  The total calories can be calculated from this (or close to it).  How do you think you calculate the percentage of calories from fat?  You take the calories from fat and divide by the total calories and multiply by 100 to get this:
 
	(cal. from fat per serving) / (total cal. per serving) * 100 = 
			% calories from fat per serving

So you see, there is a coorelation here and the numbers should add up.  The discrepency on the label in question appears to be in error, unless that calculated the total calories when mixed with water, and the carbs, protein, and fat were calculated when mixing with milk.  But this would certainly be misleading.
From: annan@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Steroid effects
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:20:22 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

Does anyone out there know what side-effects steroids are supposed to have?

Not that I have the desire (or wherewithal) to take any, I'm just interested,
and thought a body-building group would be a good place to ask.

Thanks.

-- 
James Annan.
                [--------------------------------------]
                [  "The only good Tory is a lavatory"  ]
                [--------------------------------------]
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: slim shake, NOT!  (calorie bloopers)
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:51:19 GMT

seen in World Gym (Seekonk) on a bottle of "slim shake" (same type of
single serve bottle as Muscle Mass, only it's an add milk/water powder):

   calories 197
   fat       1g
   protein  26g
   carbs    45g

NOT!

   from my calculations:
   1 * 8 =    8 calories from fat
   26 * 4 =  104 calories from protein
   45 * 4 =  180 calories from carbs
   -----------------------------------
             292 total calories

Janice"read the label carefully"G
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Janice_Green@Brown.edu                    Brown University
SSDC2@BROWNVM                             Providence, RI (USA)
You can't have everything, where would you put it?! - Steven Wright
From: kingsley@hpwrce.HP.COM (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:57:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Popping my joints
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: misc.fitness

I found a study at Stanford's medical library where residents of a retirement
home were asked:

a.) Do you remember cracking your knuckles in your youth?
b.) Do you have arthritis now?

The researchers found no correlation.

Most of my joints pop also, and I'm eager to compare notes with other people
who have popping joints also. I'm hoping to discover the causing of 
popping joints, and a cure.
From: nak@hot.Eng.Sun.COM (Nicolai Kosche)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Back exercises???
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:50:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hot

In article <1992Apr8.192558.10835@raid.dell.com> ruby@raid.UUCP (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.225853.1438@walter.bellcore.com> dsm@ctt.bellcore.com (David Miller) writes:
>>
>>>I have occasionally had problems with my upper back - most
>>>probably a muscle sprain or something.  It has always happened
>>>when I wake up in the morning
...
>>He told me that the muscles in the back are needed to help re-align
>>the spine, and keep the shoulders back in the correct position (I'm
>>slightly round-shouldered which he says is worsened by the fact that
>>my chest muscles are tighter and stronger than my back muscles...)
>>
>>Anybody know any exercises and/or stretches which will work the
>>muscles in the mid to upper back???  I've done lower back routines,
>>and I've done lots of rows and lat pulldowns, but I don't know of any
>>exercises which will specifically work the muscles in the back that I
>>need to...
...

For the upper back, just to the inside of the shoulders, do
rear trap shrugs.

Traps are shaped like a comma, with one part (the tail) going along
the top of the torso out to the shoulders (front and lateral shrugs
work this part), and the other part of the comma goes down the spine
from the neck area.

To do rear shrugs, get to an unbalanced vertical smith machine.
Unbalanced -> no counter weights, Vertical -> No incline on the motion
of the weight, it's true vertical. Bring the bar to hand level.  Apply
25 lbs to each side just to get the routine down.

Stand in front of the bar and grab the bar at shoulder width.
(Use wrist straps, unless you have super-forearms).

Lift and unlock the bar, your back should be in a squatting
stance, i.e.  you should be ready for *HEAVY* weights (don't
curve the back forward).

Sightly lean your body forward, this will push your shoulders
back.  Now shrug the bar upwards feeling the rear traps.  Lower
the bar toward the rear, and repeat.  Avoid using your triceps.

Add weight when you feel comfortable with your technique.  Add
weight in 50 lbs increments.

You should be able to do bench press weights on this.

Hope it helps.
--
        Nicolai Kosche                      nicolai.kosche@eng.sun.com
I speak only for myself and I do not reflect the views or position of Sun.
Anything included in this message is provided at your own risk.
From: grs02502@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Veins(was Re:)
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:29:12 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University

In article <1992Apr13.000413.24209@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, cockrill@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jeremy Cockrill) writes:
> Howdy, everyone:
> 
>    1.  Why the more I work out, the more vascular I get?  I know I'm getting
>        leaner which reveals more veins, but my vein size has also seemed to
>        be increasing also.  (I don't mind too much, but I am concerned some-
>        what as some people find the veins unattractive.)  
> 

Through training, there is an icrease in blood flow to the muscle.  This may
make it appear as if your "veins are getting bigger".  Some types of training
actually increase the volume of blood in the body whick would also give this
appearance.
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Steroid effects
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:05:23 GMT

>From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
>Subject: Re: Steroid effects
>
> Rarely, you will see
>the paradoxical situation of a male bodybuilder developing breasts
>(not pectorals).

just one comment... from the ads i've seen in musclemags re: "bitch tits"
i find it surprising that it is a "rare" thing.

one ad (to "cure bitch tits") went as far as to say (paraphrasing):
 "you've worked too hard for your body to have bitch tits"
which i read as:
 "you've used steroids and here's how to correct some of the harm you've done"

Janice
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"When I work out at the gym, it's like I'm coming.
 When I pose in competition, it's like I'm coming.
 With my girlfriend, I'm coming. I'm coming all the time." - Arnold
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Carbs in food????
From: estelter@desire.wright.edu
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:49:16 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

>>
>>  Just wanted to know which foods contain the most carbohydrates.
>>
From: grs02502@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Parrillo's Address
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:33:52 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University

Parrillo's Address:

Parrillo Performance
5143 Kennedy Avenue
Cincinnati, OH 45213