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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Corrected Quizze Scores and Quizze 6
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:34:06 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

we have the results from the first 5 trivia quizzes, scores out of 50
(corrected):

   Frank Durda IV (uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org)  41
   James William Bennetts (james@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au) 32
   Jonathan Drukman (jondr@sco.com) 27
   Ron O'Dell (keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us) 23
   Iain Asplin Roberts (ira2p@Faraday.clas.Virginia.edu)  18
   Kevin Blayton (kgb8752@ultb.isc.rit.edu) 14
   Neal Crossan (neal@riemann.math.mun.ca) 8.5
   Ariane(Ablanch@physics.su.oz.au) 8
   Richard K. Fox (fox-r@cis.ohio-state.edu) 5
   Franklin Trumphy (swan@iastate.edu)  3.5

Now thanks to spoilers by my good friend Dale Clayton, there is a change

in question.  for those who submitted already, don't worry.

Despite a goof from Mr Bennette in which some of the answers are right,

I will continue as below.

Correction to quiz 5,  "The Faceless Ones" not "Macra Terror" is the first
time the Doctor's face was featuring at the show's opening.

For the rest, here we go.

 And now, Episode 6, purely on Doctor Mk 3:

1)  How did the Doctor track down the TARDIS in "Spearhead from Space"?

2)  HOw did the Doctor explain the Republic of Britain in "Inferno"?

3)  From "Terror of the Autons",  what do we know about the Doctor's and the

    Master's academic careers?

4)  Which planet is Azal from ?

5)  Who detonated the bomb in "Day of the Daleks"?

6)  Who played Stuart Hyde in "The Time monster"?

7)  Who said in the end when the TARDIS returned to UNIT HQ

    "I told you he had no self control"  from "The Three Doctors"?

8)  In which Episode do we see the Brigadier smoking?

9)  Name a famous 'Allo! Allo! Comedienne who appeared in "The Invasion of the

    Dinosaurs" .

10) Describe how the Doctor was to leave the show while Roger Delgado was

    still alive.

    Rules:

**  1)  No posting of answers.  That is up to me.   **
    2)  Enter as many times as you like, until you get 10/10.
    3)  Deadline is Wednesday, 3 September, 1992 11:59 MDT.
    4) On  a note of thanks to Tom Wilson, rarely done these days, anything
       based on precedence below are legit sources for the quizze:
       a) The shows
       b) The novels
       c) Documentaries concerning the show Doctor Who
       d) The Magazines
       e) The Quizze Books








Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
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From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Subject: Re: Dr Who film reported official!
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:23:55 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1992Sep3.123907.28372@ioe.ac.uk> teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT) writes:
>In <2794@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>
>
>>go ahead very soon. Choice of Doctor is still to be decided, but the
>>favourite at time of report was Dudley Moore (!). Take this news as you will.
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I think I've gone to hell, and this is my punishment. The idea of Dudley
>Moore giggling his way through a film as the doctor almost makes me 
>physically ill. If this is true (which I rather doubt) then it's got to

Now wait a min.  No one thought that Micheal Keaton could pull off Batman
either now ddid they and he pulled it off rrather well I thought.  What I'm
wondering is this going to be an American production or an English one.  No
offense but, I would prefer it to be American.

Alex

p.s. Sorry about the typos ($%@#$@ modem)
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From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:45:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.1992Aug25.164528.8959
Organization: A Planet Of His Own

In article <2197.130.uupcb@ssr.com> doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes)  writes:
>Also... If the SF channel DOES do what you say, I suppose if everyone in
>this conference wrote the SF channel a letter, perhaps we could convince
>them to show complete episodes each day and put commercials in between
>parts, not during them.....

Sounds OK, but all my paper and stamps are gonna be used to make sure I
*get* the SF channel... My cableco is saying "Oh, we'll get it... in
February 1994."  AARGH!!

						- greg
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Subject: Re: Long live Sylvester McCoy
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 10:15:02 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

mrmuon@next09pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:

> In article <1992Aug29.012819.1908@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
> > Why don't you like Greatest Show?  
> > 
> > The only thing I find a bit annoying about it is the somewhat unclear
> > ending sequences where the Doctor seemed to suddenly gain magic powers
> > in front of the Gods until I realized two things: 1) he was in a  
> different
> > time/space where mind power seems to be stronger (hence the name Psychic
> > Circus), and 2) he already had magic tricks prepared for the talent
> > contest, so it wasn't really a case of him pulling everything out of his
> > hat.
> > 
> > Once I figured that stuff out, my mind was at ease, peace, and joy about
> > the story.
> 
> Do you have any Idea who the "gods of Ragnarok" were?

Well the Doctor has been fighting them across time, or something like that.
They are these stone guys....and ummmm...they like the circus....hmmmm
well actually....not really.  That was the problem with a lot of McCoy
stories.  They left you with more questions then answers.   Which sometimes
is good, but in this case it did need more explination.  Did anyone read the
novel and could tell us if it explained more about the "gods of Ragnarok"?

-I still think clowns are creepy....Ace.


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From: guth@unixg.ubc.ca (Geoff Guth)
Subject: Re: Americans and Who
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:45:04 GMT

In article <27AUG92.10549744.0077@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA> writes:
>I dare say a collaboration between A&E and the BBC would work quite well
>(been watching <The House of Eliott> and enjoying it immensely).  I'm
>not sure PBS stations would have the budget, even in a collaborative
>effort, to produce something like <Doctor Who>.  They air some very
>interesting productions; but the ones that they create themselves (that
>I've seen) are very bare-bones (mostly young kids' shows and talk
>shows).  This doesn't make them bad, mind you, but they are of limited
>interest.  I'm sure there are some notable exceptions.

My experiance is limited to PBS mainly, A&E only recently became available
here.  But hasn't WGBH done quite a few dramas in collaboration with
Britsh companies (e.g. Granada).  No doubt A&E could do a good job,
provided they left creative control in Britain.

On a related topic, is this Sci-Fi station going to produce any shows
of their own, or are they merely going to broadcast reruns of Dr. Who,
Star Trek, etc. (not that I would mind reruns of DW!)

Geoff.
>
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Tomb and questions.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:51:12 GMT

In article <30AUG92.18520644@nerus.pfc.mit.edu> mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu writes:
>I agree that Tomb of the Cybermen was great.  However, why is it that we never
>see the outside of the Tardis, or did I miss it?  Is that unique?  I was also
>glad it wasn't one of those long 6+ episode long stories.  However, I have
>always been curious as to the plot of the longest one, The Dalek Masterplan. 
>If anyone can summarize the plot of that one, I would appreciate it.
>Also, I missed the description as to how the film was actually found.  If that
>was posted here, I would be interested in seeing it again.  Our announcer said
>it was in perfect condition, unlike any other existing b&w story.  Is that
>true?

It may indeed be unique that this is the only story where we see the TARDIS
interior but not the exterior, no wait a minute, "Terminus" has that doesn't
it?
The film of Tomb was found in Hong Kong I believe.  A TV station there was
cleaning out its vaults one day and stumbled across a cache of BBC film
cans that had been relocated to this station after their original host had
been bombed.
Perfect condition I don't know about, but I *think* that the BBC did some
cleaning-up of the prints.
>
>I would also be interested in knowing why Troughton left after only a short
>time.  Ratings?  While I was not impressed when I had seen him in other
>stories, I was in this one.
>
>Mark

Troughton left because he wanted to.  Three years was, he felt, just the
right amount of time to stay in any one role (he was by nature a character
actor.  Keep in mind that it was almost a year-round schedule in those
days.

Here's why they all left:
William Hartnell:  3 years,failing health, and he also told a fan after he left that
		he didn't like how Innes Lloyd and Gerry Davis were shifting
		the show more to adults and away from children.
Patrick Troughton: 3 years, left because he was tired and didn't want to
		be typecast
Jon Pertwee: 5 years, left as he felt the UNIT family was breaking up,
		especially after Roger Delgado's death.  Thought "well,
		that's an era, I'll go now."
Tom Baker:	7 years, just got tired and  bogged down.  Lalla Ward may
		alsohave had something to do with it, though he's never
		said she did.
Peter Davison:  3 years, didn't want to be typecast and wanted to still go
		and do other things in his career.  Has said that if he
		had been asked to make the decision at the end of his
		third year, he would have stayed for a fourth as he lovd
		those scripts for his last season.
Colin Baker:    2 years, in a way, fired.  Michael Grade chose not to 
		renew his contract.

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From: trump@iastate.edu (The Trumpster.)
Subject: Re: VIDEO CERTIFICATES
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:37:26 GMT

In article <9208260847.AA27291@cs.utexas.edu> EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk) writes:
>gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes.....
>
>>  
>> Summary of Film/Video Certificates in UK:
>> 
>> U - Universal, suitable for all (e.g. Peter Pan was one)
>> PG - Parental Guidance; anyone can get in, unaccompanyied or otherwise,
>> but some scenes may be too strong for young children (e.g. Short Circuit)
>> 12 - no one under 12 under any circumstances (e.g Batman, The Abyss)
>> 15 - no one under 15 under any circumstances (e.g. Darkman)
>> 18 - no one under 18 under any circumstances (e.g. Aliens, Cape fear)
>> 
>> Hence, did you know that anyone under 18 in the UK who has seen Aliens
>> has broken the law!!

Ouch. That's a painful system. Here, nothing is decided by law, but by
the MPAA. Ratings are as follows:

G - General Audiences. (Bambi, etc. Usually cartoon)
PG - Parental Guidence suggested (Basically the same thing. Movies: Bill & Teds
Excellent Adventure)
PG-13 - Parental Guidance suggested for people under 13. Anybody can get it, unaccompied or otherwise, but your parents are just supposed to 'advise'(Batman
Returns)
R - Restriced. For people over 18 unless accompainied, but noone pays attentio
n to it. (Silence of the Lambs).
NC-17 - No Children under 17. Noone can get it. Porn flicks in porn theatres.
You simply can't get in and they DO watch it.

>I think I am right in saying that the 12 certificate is not given
>to video releases, just to cinema.  What was a 12 in the cinema would
>go "up" to a 15 on video.  This is a common policy in Britain - certificates
>often are upped one stage when going from cinema to video.  The theory is
>that videocassettes are more "accessible" than cinema films, hence the
>higher grading.

Well, I know people here in the states who were 14 or 15 and rented R movies.

>There is also another grading called R18 (Restricted 18) which is for videos
>which can only be sold in sex shops.

Hey, yeah? They rent porn movies in any video store here. There are theatres,
but they are being phased out because of video tapes.

> ----------------------------------- 
>|  Steve P                    (..)  |
>|  eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk   ()   |
> ----------------------------------- 
>
>




Frank Trumpy
trump@iastate.edu
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From: sarah@micom.com (Sarah Menolly)
Subject: Re: What happened?
Organization: Micom Communications Corp., Simi Valley, Ca.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:53:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.065241.23951@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
[clippity-clip]
>Same thing I said originally: you want to deny everyone else just because you
>don't like it. I don't watch a lot of programs on TV, therefore they should
>be taken off the air. Screw everybody else! That's the impression I get.

Nobody is denying anyone the right to watch what they want.

[snip]

>It's still a preconceived dislike. Without even seeing what could be produced
>over here, you don't like it. If you think it would be like some other shows
>that are redone, you are stereotyping which is again a preconceived dislike.
>Admit it. Even if such a production lived up to your expectations, exercise
>your free will and DON'T WATCH IT. Don't deny others a free choice just because
>you don't agree with the choice.

Past performance is not a bad thing to weigh a decision upon. If Dr. Who is
done by an American production, I would watch with a completely open mind,
however, it would be subject to comparison with the past. This is human.
Not a preconception, but memory of past enjoyment. If they mangled this
program in a fashion similar to what I've heard they've done to the American
Red Dwarf, I would go hide under the covers and cry for the death of a
good show! Dr. Who would be badly singed in the minds of old Whovians
and could very well put off future Whovians if it is not done with care
and respect, and carrying across the good (and the bad - sometimes makes
for a better rounded show) from the BBC series.

>Finally, it would be a recognizable Dr. Who if, like I said, the right people
>were behind the scenes. The creators of Red Dwarf were in on the production of
>the American version (if I remember correctly), yet a bunch of people downed
>the show without ever seeing it. Too bad for those of us who would have watched
>it with an open mind.
>
>Tom

Tom, I know of a few people who *did* see it, gave it a fair viewing, and
were, in fact, looking forward to it succeeding. However, the surgery was
botched! They amputated the past, and grafted on something that was too
incompatible to survive. If the creators of Red Dwarf were, as you say,
in on the production of the American version, then it just gives me further
foreboding that American producers are not yet capable of sustaining the
*type* of level (not necessarily the height) Dr. Who has always given.
We are a totally different branch of the tree, with our own differences.
 
I don't know what Dr. Who would be like if it were entirely remade over
into an American version -- I just hope it would be at least worthy of
the preceding 26 years.
 
:-)
Sarah
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Subject: Re: VIDEO CERTIFICATES
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 10:55:55 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk) writes:
<stuff about certifications put of film/video's deleted>
> 
> There is also another grading called R18 (Restricted 18) which is for videos
> which can only be sold in sex shops.

Wow, we must be pretty liberal then.  In America, these "x-rated" videos
can be sold anywhere, and are.  They are in most video stores, although
they do put them into a seprate area that the kids can't get into.
And no one under 18 can rent them. 

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From: guth@unixg.ubc.ca (A Medieval Roboticist)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Hartnell-Troughton Regeneration Sequence
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:51:55 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Aug31.191445.20727@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next09pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.172009.20518@udel.edu> duzan@titan.cis.udel.edu  
>(Gary D. Duzan) writes:
>>    Also, if I remember correctly, the change was accompanied by the  
>TARDIS
>> materialization (materialisation?) sound effects.
>
>sound effect. I don't think this was in the original because, for one  
>thing, the Doctor probably couldn't regenerate and operate the  
>dematerialization control at the same time.

I haven't seen the clip myself, or that particular episode (does it exist
anymore?) but I have read the book, although it was some time ago.  I
know this isn't canon, but in the book, I recall that the Doctor needed
the help of the TARDIS to regenerate, something about him holding off
too long, and sticking with his first body too long...

Geoff.
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From: guth@unixg.ubc.ca (A lonely wanderer from the 15th century)
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:18:02 GMT

In article <2197.130.uupcb@ssr.com> doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes)  writes:
>
>Whoa! So that means they actually have commercials in the middle of
>PARTS of episodes??? Geez! That's VERY annoying!!! Especially for
>videotaping... I wouldn't sit around and edit out commercials 5 days a
>week!!! But, like I said, any Doctor Who is better than none... Does

[grump mode on]

You bet it's annoying.  The only local station here that has Dr. Who isn't
the Seattle PBS station, but an independant Bellingham station KVOS that
not only has commercials in the middle of episodes (they use the "movie" 
format) but also insists on showing Dr. Who starting at 4:00 am, usually
after some really bad B horror film.  This means that if you are going
to tape the show, you either have to stay up until 6 in the morning, editing
out commercials, or use the two VCR method.

A shame that the Sci-fi channel isn't being broght to Canada.  Even if
they did have commercials throughout, at least it would be at a reasonable
time of day.  *sigh*

[grump mode off]

>     - Doug
>-----------
>doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com

Geoff.
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From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Tomb and questions.
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:52:06 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER

I agree that Tomb of the Cybermen was great.  However, why is it that we never
see the outside of the Tardis, or did I miss it?  Is that unique?  I was also
glad it wasn't one of those long 6+ episode long stories.  However, I have
always been curious as to the plot of the longest one, The Dalek Masterplan. 
If anyone can summarize the plot of that one, I would appreciate it.
Also, I missed the description as to how the film was actually found.  If that
was posted here, I would be interested in seeing it again.  Our announcer said
it was in perfect condition, unlike any other existing b&w story.  Is that
true?

I would also be interested in knowing why Troughton left after only a short
time.  Ratings?  While I was not impressed when I had seen him in other
stories, I was in this one.

Mark
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Tomb's format
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:35:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.200115.22761@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next09pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>Well I finally saw "Tomb of the Cybermen" this saturday (and loved it). I  



The CBS/Fox video release in the first weeks of October will indeed be in
episode form, and include a small 10 minute interview with the director
of the story, Morris Barry.
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: sexism??
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 06:16:31 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

COntent warning:  though I will try to keep this as subtle as possible,  some
graphic detail is required.

I know Mike S. has originally brought this up, however..

From my club's point of view, their seems to be a discussion on which female
companions has either the greatest bust or the the greatest body.  I don't mind
this myself, provided that it can be discussed in a mature-like manner.

Any similar problem with other clubs  in the world, or am I just going up a
cul-de-sac?

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
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From: ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Ariane)
Subject: A request
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:07:41 GMT

I read this news group via a 1200 baud modem, and the quantity of
quoted stuff is *really* high in here. So please, to save bandwidth,
and also to have pity on those of us reading by slow modems, cut 
down the quoted stuff as much as possible. It is rare that you 
really need to quote more than some of the most recent person's
article.

Thanks for listening,

Ariane

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From: cshuy@zeus.calpoly.edu (No One Knows)
Subject: Any more of the Shada script?
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 21:49:00 GMT

At the end of 'Shada-part 4', it says to be continued next posting.
Anyone seen that next posting?

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