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From: alexsut@panix.com (Alex Sutton)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:42:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Jul24.223707.3140@qiclab.scn.rain.com> drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Devin Ben-Hur) writes:


>For all you folks complaining about Starbuck's prices, 
>Costco (in portland anyway) carries two-pound bags of their House blend
>(caf & decaf) for about $8.  Not much variety, but it beats buying direct.

FWIW, Starbucks roasts and packages Costco's house brand coffee.  It's in
Starbucks prospectus and probably has something to do with a major
shareholder of each company. (-:
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: ssave@ole.cdac.com (Shailendra Save)
Subject: Seattle/Bellevue Lunches
Organization: CDAC, WA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:30:47 GMT

  I am looking for good places to lunch in the Seattle, Bellevue (East Side)
area.  Cheap($5.00 and below - places to eat everyday), healthy(no fried stuff, 
no oily stuff, hamburgers etc are OUT!) and near I405 or I90.  

Thanks,
Shailendra
ssave@ole.cdac.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: schiles@martini.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Reply-To: schiles@martini.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:50:14 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I'll agree with Gregg about Starbucks.  I just moved from Portland,
Oregon to Palo Alto, and probably miss Starbucks more than anything
else.  They do know what they are doing and (imho) their roasters are
among the best.  I also HIGHLY recommend their blends -- quite well done
and quite well conceived.

I TRIED to go to Peet's for coffee, but it closes each night at 6:00
p.m.  Apparently, they don't seem to care about selling coffee to people
who work for a living.  I will try Palo Alto Roasters next.

Suzanne
schiles@us.oracle.com

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From: mbh@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Matt Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,sdnet.eats
Subject: Need name of restaurant in Napa Valley (Country Kitchen??)
Date: 31 Jul 1992 18:11:04 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, UCSD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdphu1.ucsd.edu


I went to a breakfast place in Napa Valley about 2 years ago, and
had a great cup of coffee.  It was so good that I want to call them
to find out where they got the beans.  I think the restaurant was called
Country Kitchen, but I can't find that name in the phone book for the
region.  Is anyone familiar with a restaurant/breakfast place which has
a similar name?  It's right in the heart of the wine region, I think
near the Mondavi vinyards.  Thanks in advance. 

					Regards,

					Matt Harrington

Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley)
Subject: Where to eat in Hamilton, Ont. or Gloucester, Mass.
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:27:01 EDT


	I'll be taking a vacation soon to either Hamilton, Ontario
or Gloucester (Cape Ann area), Massaschusettes.  I don't know which
yet, so if someone could email me good places to eat at either place
I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

Matthew Hanley
Systems Programmer
Computing Services
Syracuse University
mwhanley@mailbox.syr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: Chicago Style Pizza
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Reply-To: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:44:28 CDT


In article <1992Jul18.011251.15996@novell.com>, rcjones@novell.com (Russell Jones) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul07.184710.43568@spss.com> briano@spss.com (Brian O'Laughlin) writes:
|> 
|> [various My Pi accolades deleted]
|> 
|> >I believe there is a My Pi in Lincoln Park, on Clark just north of Fullerton. 
|> >I haven't been, so it may well have an atmosphere like the one in Wilmette. 
|> >
|> >The My Pi at Loyola is indeed gone, but Carmen's has taken that space. 
|> >Once a pizza place, always a pizza place? ;-)
|> 
|> 	There used to be a My Pi on Roosevelt Rd in Lombard about 1 mile
|> west of Finley Rd.  I don't think it is still there.  Can anyone there in
|> the western suburbs confirm?

Yes, and there used to be a My Pi (briefly) in Fort Wayne, Indiana, right across
the road from the Coliseum. As a native Hoosier, I was ecstatic, for a few months,
until the VCs realized that pizza will never compete with prime rib and pork
tenderloin sandwiches in Fort Wayne. Last I heard the place had become one of
the last discos in the Midwest, but I'm sure that was a couple of incarnations
ago.

Do they still make a big deal about the stereo equipment at the remaining locations?

Jeff Carroll
carroll@cray.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: tammy@tammy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Tammy Armistead)
Subject: Advice on restaurants in Vermont and New Hampshire
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:19:09 GMT


In September, I will be going on my honeymoon to
Vermont.  We will be travelling from Burlington
down to Concord, New Hampshire during the week.
Any good suggestions on places to eat around 
Burlington, Montpelier, Stowe, Rutland, Killington,
Quechee, Woodstock, VT (other cities on the route) or
or cities near New London and Concord NH and prices/atmosphere
would be appreciated.


Thanks in advance.
-- 
______________________________________
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Senior Software Analyst

DAZIX, An Intergraph Company
Mail Stop LR23B2
Huntsville, AL 35894-0001

UUNET: uunet!ingr!b23b!tammy!tammy
Internet: tammy@tammy.b23b.ingr.com 
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From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:24:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
> I'm going to be visiting the Denver/Colorado Springs area in early August and
> would like to get feedback on excellent restaurants in both of those cities.
> I define excellence based on the quality of the food, and not on the ambience.
> 
> I am not interested in anything expensive or formal.  Holes-in-the-wall are
> acceptable as long as the food is outstanding.  I'm not interested in places
> that are loud or have a party-type atmosphere.  My tastes in food include
> Mexican, Italian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, some European (German, Belgian), as
> well as great steaks, great hamburgers, and other American fare.

For Mexican, try La Casita on South Nevada in Colorado Springs.  It's
a *very* informal place (you go to the counter and order and pick up
your own food when they call your number), but the food is great (excellent
fajitas with hot homemade tortillas).  For Italian, I like Izzi's or
Antonio's (both in Colorado Springs - Antonio's is a bit formal, but the
food is good!).

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
From: frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Mission Bay, San Diego
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:26:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)

We (2 adults, 2 young kids) are going to Mission bay for a mid-week vacation
next month. We are staying in a hotel on Mission Beach. Need opinions on
restaurants/sights/good beach zones for the family.

		frisbee@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:31:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPSS Inc.


Chicago seems to have an abnormally large number of "drinkable" coffee sources.

I haven't been dissappointed by the following:

1) Steep & Brew --originates from Madison, WI. Good selection and uniformly
fresh.

2)Chalet. A local cheese, coffee, snack shop. Usually attached to Gold 
Standard Liquors. Locations in Hyde Park and Lakeview.  Good French Roast.

3) One of the Starbucks that you seem to see on every corner. Too expensive
for my tastes--though the Cafe Misto is a fairly good buy, I can make a better
and much cheaper approximation at work.


john
SPSS
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Memphis and Nashville, TN Restaurants
From: cless@mec.ohio.gov
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:04:27 -0400
Organization: Metrop. Educ. Council, Columbus, OH

I'll be spending some time in Memphis and Nashville, TN and 
would like some restaurant recommendations.  I'm looking for
casual, moderately-priced places, but I'll entertain any and
and all recommendations.

Many thanks,

Ann
-- 
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180 E. Engler Street    ||  INTERNET    cless@mec.ohio.gov
Columbus, Ohio  43215   ||  BITNET      cless%mecsys@ohstpy

"what the world needs now is another folk singer
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Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: usenet@samba.oit.unc.edu
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Organization: Radiation Oncology, NCMH/UNC, Chapel Hill, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:49:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.183604.6099@cbnewse.cb.att.com> tjks@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Tim Kloth) writes:
>A Starbuck's recently opened near me (Wheaton, IL).  I went
>in.  I got sticker shock at the prices!  I like coffee but
>$8.00/lb and up!  If they roasted in-house, and if they
>were sure the beans were arabica, and if they didn't try to tell
>me French Roast was darker than espresso roast, then maybe I would
>give them another chance.  Maybe the problem was new sales-droids.
>I don't see anything that distinguishes them from the zillion other
>gourmet coffee stores.

I like Starbucks. I really do. I've tried gobs of so-called "gourmet"
coffees and none really compare, IMHO. And how much coffee do you
drink each month that $2 per pound makes a difference? The beans are
very carefully selected at Starbucks, meaning that they actually
travel to the production countries and taste each crop before
purchasing it, as opposed to buying it from a distributor, so who is
more sure of their beans? And their house blend is simply scrupmtious
(again, IMHO).

Read their brochures -- they really know what they are doing. I'm not
saying that other establishments are clueless, mind you, just that
I've not come across one that comes close. I'll try peets, tho.

BTW, in order to taste the differences that a good coffee makes, you
should make sure that you have a good coffee maker (see
rec.food.drinks for all the assorted varieties of coffee makers),
which means that the coffee brews in under 4 minutes at close to
boiling.

Everything that I've said goes for the Starbucks in Seattle, so you
Illinoisy folks will have to judge for 'yerselves. If you complain to
the owners in Seattle, I'm sure that they will change things in IL.

--gregg "not a Starbuck's stock holder" tracton
Gregg Tracton              (919)-966-7710  FAX:966-7681
Radiation Oncology         GEnie:G.TRACTON
School of Medicine         tracton@godot.radonc.unc.edu
Univ of North Carolina     {...}mcnc!godot!tracton
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:30:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul20.183604.6099@cbnewse.cb.att.com> tjks@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Tim Kloth) writes:
>A Starbuck's recently opened near me (Wheaton, IL).  I went
>in.  I got sticker shock at the prices!  I like coffee but
>$8.00/lb and up!  If they roasted in-house, and if they
>were sure the beans were arabica, and if they didn't try to tell
>me French Roast was darker than espresso roast, then maybe I would
>give them another chance.  Maybe the problem was new sales-droids.
>I don't see anything that distinguishes them from the zillion other
>gourmet coffee stores.
>-- 
>Tim Kloth	AT&T Network Systems	tjk@ihlpe.att.com

Right you are, Tim. But even so, their newly issued common stock has
been rising (I think they closed at 27 or higher today). Even with
FedEx, it's cheaper to buy from Freed, Teller, Freed in San Francisco.
'Tis too bad you're not in California. We have a small discount
gourmet chain called 'Trader Joe's' which sells cans of nitrogen-flushed
all-arabica beans from $2.99 (french roast) to $7.95 (kona). People
have argued that the cans sit around. But at Starbucks, they sit
behind clear plastic in bins for weeks! I use a 50/50 mixture of
the french roast and the columbia excelso and Brougiere's extra
rich milk. It's fabulous.

-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543
                         Fax: 805.944.5958
From: simmon@eeel.nist.gov (Eric Simmon)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:59:42 GMT
Distribution: usa

Someone made a comment that Starbuck's uses 100% aribica coffee.
This sounds strange, because most good espresso has a small
amount of robusta beans (this is to increase the crema).

Eric Simmon

simmon@eeel.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
From: v045100@otis1.stortek.com (Jennifer Farnham)
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Reply-To: v045100@otis1.UUCP (Jennifer Farnham)
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:53:55 GMT

I lived in Castle Rock for a year and i highly 
reccommend the "Stone Church".  It is an old
church converted into a restaurant. Its a bit
pricy and reservations are recommended.

Castle Rock is 37 miles north of Colorado Springs
(Air Force Academy) and 15 miles south of the 
Denver Tech Center (Arapahoe Road or Highlands Ranch).

Good Luck.

Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: ad527@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin J. Drabik)
Subject: Re: Cleveland Airport
Reply-To: ad527@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin J. Drabik)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:45:24 GMT


In a previous article, lake@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dr. Robin Lake) says:


>"Next" to Brown Derby is the Nth Airborne Squadron (I've forgotten the
>value of N).  Comes well recommended.  Probably 50% more than Brown Derby.
>Usual steak,fish,chicken menu.

Actually, its called the One Hundredth Bomb Group.  But as I've never been
there, I've no comment on the food.

                                               Martin
                                               mdrabik@bach.bio.ri.ccf.org

-- 
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From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:25:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <68mm-hh.jdiamond@netcom.com> jdiamond@netcom.com (Joan M. Diamond) writes:
> The Broker restaurants (there are quite a few in Denver and Boulder)
> are supposed to be great.  I do know that they give you a big bowl
> of peel and eat schrimp the minute you sit down.

I ate at the Broker restaurant in downtown Denver (it's in the basement of a
bank, you can get a booth in what used to be the vault).  The food was good,
the bread was good, they tell me the shrimp was good (I don't eat it, so the
other two folks at my table got to eat my portion).  Dessert was pretty
good, too.

By the way, I wanted to point out that putting ***** in front of your
subject is really obnoxious.  Let your subject stand on its own, you don't
need to embelish it.

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
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From: cindy@meshugge.media.mit.edu (Cindy Blank-Edelman)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Boston VEG Restaurants -- SUMMARY
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:40:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: meshugge.CINDY.92Jul24114018
	<1992Jul23.163023.17081@athena.mit.edu>
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory

Karen Walrath writes:

> Also, The Milk Street Cafe only has the place in Boston now.  Their
> Cambridge store closed about 1.5 years ago.  They are on (not
> surprisingly) Milk St. in Boston.

Actually, I believe there are 3 Milk Street Cafes in the area.  One on
Milk Street in Boston, one at Post Office Square (but I don't know if
they are veggie), and one at the Longwood Medical Center.  The one in
Cambridge did close :-(

--Cindy Blank-Edelman
From: drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Devin Ben-Hur)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:37:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Jul24.223707.3140
Distribution: usa
Organization: Are you kidding?


For all you folks complaining about Starbuck's prices, 
Costco (in portland anyway) carries two-pound bags of their House blend
(caf & decaf) for about $8.  Not much variety, but it beats buying direct.
-- 
Devin Ben-Hur        [drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com]
"So, I rewired it!"
From: lind@eng.umd.edu (Charles A. Lind)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Baltimore: Where do I eat?
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:36:15 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: lind@valkyrie.eng.umd.edu


In article <QeR4EFe00WBL042tp1@andrew.cmu.edu>, Bill Thomas <bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Where should I go in Baltimore for top-notch seafood? I'm hoping to
>spend less than $40 for two (with maybe one drink and dessert)? Is this
>even possible? I'd like to hear about good seafood restaurants
>regardless of price (not in the $100 a meal category, though there can't
>be many of those). Is Baltimore known for a cuisine other than seafood?
>About all I know is Baltimore=crab cakes.

For seafood O'Brickies (sp?) on Broadway and Pratt is excellent.  Baltimore
is also known for Italian food.  Little Italy is about a 10 minute walk
from the inner harbor, located just off Pratt Street.

Charles
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: olin@reg.triumf.ca (ART OLIN, TRIUMF INET 128.189.128.2)
Subject: Re: Looking for Restaurants in Pacific Northwest
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:48:00 GMT

>>
>>(gil@cc.gatech.edu asked for veggies, breakfast, and cafe in the Northwest.) 
>>
Lots of good Indian restauants in Vancouver with large vegetarian
menus. Perhaps the best are Ashianna, Raga, and Rubina. Govinda's,
located next to a Hare Krishna temple, offers a vegetarian buffet
for $5.95.
From: sutton@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Rich Sutton)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Advice on restaurants in Vermont and New Hampshire
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:52:12 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Jul29.141909.1255@b11.b11.ingr.com> tammy@tammy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Tammy Armistead) writes:
>
>In September, I will be going on my honeymoon to
>Vermont.  We will be travelling from Burlington
>down to Concord, New Hampshire during the week.
>Any good suggestions on places to eat around 
>Burlington, Montpelier, Stowe, Rutland, Killington,
>Quechee, Woodstock, VT (other cities on the route) or
>or cities near New London and Concord NH and prices/atmosphere
>would be appreciated.

I lived in Waterbury for 2 years. During this time I spent
a year going to school in Burlington while my wife attended
the New England Culinary Institute in Montpelier.

In Burlington there is a great, reasonably-priced Indian Restaurant.
Take the road from Burlington to Winooski and the restaurant is on
a corner at the University's NW end.

Noonie's Deli was a favorite of mine for lunch, but a tunafish sub
may not be what you have in mind. You could put together a nice
picnic basket at Noonie's then head off to Smuggler's Notch for the
day.

Bove's is the quintessential cheap Italian scarf. For =~ $5 you can
get a very hearty, quite good pasta meal. Go for the read sauce with
garlic! Well, maybe not, this is your honeymoon afterall. Anthony's 
is comparable but I prefer Bove's.

In Stowe go to the Stoweaway Inn for Mexican food. They do a remarkably
good job for East coast Mex! So I was told the proprietor learned to 
cook Mex in Montana. This is the best Mexican food I have had in the east.
It holds its own with the west.

The town just west of Waterbury has a restaurant/cabins establishment
called Camp Meade. This place is adorned with Sherman Tanks, machine guns,
and other implements of death. The motif is also done in the restaurant.
For breakfast you can load up on a lifetime's quota of cholesterol for
a song. You also get treated to unyielding cigarette smoke. Seriously,
though, we LIKED to go here occasionally. It's just such a strange place!

In Montpelier NECI has two restaurants. Both can be quite good or merely
passable depending on which students are working the kitchen. Sorry,
but I can't remember the restaurants' names anymore! The yellow restaurant 
is a tad less fancy and a very good deal for lunches. Come to think of it, 
the college has expanded to Essex Jct. They now have The Inn at Essex which
may be worth looking into.

Hope this helps,
Rich
From: rogerm@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roger Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Linda's Burger Sauce
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:00:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA

Does anyone have the recipe for the sauce on a Linda's or Perisian burger?
These burgers were sold at the Linda's restaurant that used to be on the
corner of El Camino Real and Escuela in Mountain View, CA USA.
If anyone has this recipe, I would like to know what it is.

Thanks,

Roger Myers
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 16:06:28 CDT
From: <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Peoria, Il - eats?

Some colleagues and I are spending a few days in Peoria while doing some
research.  Are there any local (not chain), preferably ethnic spots
with interesting food?  Suggestions and locations would be helpful.

Feel free to e-mail rather than posting.

Thanks!

Ray Sparrowe
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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
Subject: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:11:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hello,

I'm going to be visiting the Denver/Colorado Springs area in early August and
would like to get feedback on excellent restaurants in both of those cities.
I define excellence based on the quality of the food, and not on the ambience.

I am not interested in anything expensive or formal.  Holes-in-the-wall are
acceptable as long as the food is outstanding.  I'm not interested in places
that are loud or have a party-type atmosphere.  My tastes in food include
Mexican, Italian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, some European (German, Belgian), as
well as great steaks, great hamburgers, and other American fare.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Jon 


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