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From: Treble@asc.slb.com (John Treble)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Career Night - All Year Long
Followup-To: alt.kids-talk
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:48:47 GMT
Organization: McNeil High School PTA - Austin TX
Distribution: world
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Here's an idea I cam e up with to help stimulate high school student's
interests in business and industry.  I call it "Career Night - All Year
Long"

I am the president of the Parent-Teacher-Student Association at McNeil High
School in Austin, Texas.  I work for Schlumberger Well Services-the world
leader in oil exploration and oilfield services.  On my job I receive daily
mailing of free trade publications and journals.  Most of these
publications ended up in the trash can after I read them and copied the
articles of interest for my files.

I contacted our school librarian and asked if she was interested in the
used publications for distribution to teachers and students.  She was
thrilled.  So I dropped off a box full of magazines, trade pubs, and other
literature.  As I was sorting through the stack, three students came up to
the counter and began looking through them, too!  This is exactly what I
intended!

The drafting, mathematics, and science department heads, and other teachers
instantly grabbed the publications and took them back to their rooms where
students could get at them.

So, here's my plea to you parents who otherwise can't find time to
volunteer in your kid's school:  Take you used trade journals and
literature to the school library and ask the librarian to start a career
center where the kids can browse through the literature. Who know, you may
plant a seed that develops into a fantastic career for some student!

John Treble, President
McNeil High School PTSA
5720 McNeil Drive
Austin, TX 78729

treble@asc.slb.com "My humble, but accurate, opinion does not necessarily
reflect that of my employer. I get full credit for my insightful and witty
comments!"
From: jfox@sumax.seattleu.edu (---------FOX---------)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Hmm...Ah,Ha!
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:08:53 GMT
Distribution: alt.kids-talk
Organization: Seattle University

Hello, I got a thought....wait it's.....it's......stuck.
Well if you people come up with anything good to talk about I'll join in.

Shadoxx<----AKA---->Doug Fox
"Thumb on the blade and strike upward." Napoleon
From: 00sgmoses@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: hello this is St. pepe
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:24:46 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


I am posting this gospel of the Burro in hopes that we here at Ball State are
not the last of the great horse haters.  Our numbers are dwindling in the face
of modern religion and widespread horse breeding, but we will survive. Any
comments via e-mail are welcome.

The Story Of Pepe: In the Beginning

In the beginning, god created Burros, and the Burros were good.  They far
exceeded his hopes he had for his first try at creating life, humans.  The
burros were invited into Eden after the first man and woman were exiled. 
Again, his only request was that the burros not eat from the tree of knowledge. 
So it went, for many years the burros froliced amidst the wonders of Eden. The
most boisterous of the burros created was named Edward, son of Hubert, son of
Skippy of the house of Dewy(not to be confused with Wilendorf who was a little
taller than Dewy).  Anyway, Ed was in the orchard with his brother burro,
Phil. Ed said to Phil, "why don't we take a bite of the fruit of the tree of
knowledge, maybe the big guy is not so uptight about it anymore"  Phil said
unto Ed (being a true and good burro)"I don't think this is wise, god will be
pissed."  Ed, in an act of defiance, ate an apple from the tree, and suddenly
realized that he was not a burro at all, but a horse!  God appeared immediately
and said "Who took a bite now?"  Ed hollered at god (horses are so stupid) why
did you not tell me I was a Horse??  God knew immediately who the culprit was,
but he asked Phil to test his honor, and Phil told him the whole story.  God
said unto Ed, " from this point forward, all of your kind will walk on all
fours, and have no joy from licking burros.  You will beg for sugar cubes and
carrots, and APPLES from those stupid humans for the rest of your days. You
will be cursed among burrokind, they will shun you.  You will be forced to
help humans, they will ride your back and you will pull their garden
implements.  They will dress you in silly colors and ride you in circles and
make you count for them."  After that, god rested and kicked out all of the
horses and burros.  He kicked over the tree of knowledge and burnt the garden
to the ground muttering something about starting out smaller next time.  So this
began the eternal rift between the cursed horses and the saintly burros which
we so adore now.

Next post:  The coming and going of St.Pepe the Supreme BurroLicker

Courtesy:

The second but almost third Church of Pepe, Headquarters: San Juan Capistrano
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:36:33 GMT

Daniel Drucker writes:
Why not? I just made myself a bunch of business cards (I'm 14) saying
'computer consultant', walked into a computer store nearby, gave them the card,
next thing I know I'm in the back room getting hired! From 3:30 - 6 weekdays,
12-6 saturday, at $14 an hour! I make more than my mom!

All I can say here is congratulations. 

-Scott
From: biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Bridget Ingham)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: HI!
Followup-To: alt.kids-talk
Distribution: world
Reply-To: biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz
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Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:14:08 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

In article <1992Dec9.015717.17785@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper) writes:
> 
> >Is everybody ready for Christmas? 
> 
> No, why don't we skip it this year?
> (Just kidding, geez!)

Mum says "good idea"!!!

    Bridget Ingham              biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand
From: andrewm@zooid.guild.org (Andrew McCallum)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: Jokes anyone?????!!!!!
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:56:00 GMT
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
X-To: BRIDGET INGHAM

From biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Bridget Ingham)
>Hi, to all you joke tellers out there!
>
>Anyone got any decent jokes that would make this newsgroup a bit fun?
>
>Bye from a person who is eagerly looking for a few laughs,

    Hmm.. I wish my friend read this newsgroup.  He had the most amazing
jokes.

    I'm dry right now.

>By the way, Why did the chicken cross the road?
>Some fowl reason! B^) (sick)

    Ha ha ha....

---
    .sig's are neat,                   | Andrew McCallum
    .sig's are fun,                     \ andrewm@zooid.guild.org
    .sig's tell where to flame someone.  |andrewm@terranet.cts.com
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:17:18 GMT

bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan) writes:

>Well yeah, but there are some computer stores, most of the ones I go to, 
>that can at least handle that you may not want to use their operating 
>system, because they do not know there are any others it sometimes seems.

Ken: I would say that it is more than simply "seems" and that a number of
employees don't know a thing about DOS or any operating system.

But again, that is irrelevant, you frequent the stores you do for your own
reasons and people who buy from "we're stupid but we're cheap" do so for
another.  Some people go to "we're kind of dumb, and expensive but we're
convenient and open until 10 p.m." computer store.

There are no minimum standards to be a salesclerk and it would be a lousy
idea to institute them.

Let us remember at least one other fact, there is a supply shortage of
qualified people to do just about everything.  A store cannot hire people
who don't apply for the job and will choose from among those that do.

tom

Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger)
Subject: Re: How to get on Kids net?
Summary: the best Internet newsgroup for and about education,
	telecommunication, kids, teachers and parents!
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:18:10 GMT
Bcc: rdc@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC
Followup-To: alt.kids-talk

In article <biddy.03n5@ping.actrix.gen.nz> biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.143829.2805@cnsvax.uwec.edu> kolbralj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>> 
>> Does anyone have the address of kids net and how to get on it?
>> 
>Sorry, can't help you there! Maybe someone else can.

Send electronic mail to Dr. Robert Carlitz at the following
electronic mail address:

	rdc@vms.cis.pitt.edu

And he will send you the information you need to access KIDSNET! :-)

best,
patt


-- 
Patricia Ann Bromberger                            patth@panix.com
This quote borrowed from: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org 
... "It matters not so much what you sing, but why..." J.S. Bach

Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 07:38:46 GMT

sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>Don't even try to get a real job. (Not to discourage you or anything.)
>I'm 15 too and I've tried. I didn't want to work at McDonald's or the
>grocery store like everyone else, so I applied to computer stores. 
>Anybody who knows me knows that I know enough about computers to run
>a damn computer store, and yet I only got one reply. After having
>an interview, and having my responsibilities explained to me, the 
>guy waited about a month to call me back. He said that there were no
>available positions. I knew that was crap because he had told me what
>the available positions were when I had my interview. 
>
>If you really want a job, you'll probably be able to find one at
>MacDonald's or something, just don't even bother to look for a good
>one, people hate kids. What really pisses me off are some of the morons
>who work at this place that turned me down. These people just sit around
>doing nothing whereas I'd actually help people. Geez.....
>
>-Scott

Scott... Let me begin by admitting that I'm not "a kid" so take what
I say with a grain of salt (I might be one of those morons you talk
about).

I'll guess that what you mean is that you know alot about computers
but perhaps you're skill in accounting, marketing and such are limited
which means that you "honestly" could not "run" a computer store.

If you didn't get a response in a month and didn't follow up then I
personally wouldn't hire you as a salesperson... if you want something
the ball is in your court.  You also don't understand tact.  Call it
lying if you want or call it crap but you haven't learned the subtlety
of getting along with people, particularly if you aren't in the power
position.  I might call something crap but I had better be willing to
walk away empty handed because I won't get any cooperation after that.

"People hate kids" is a pretty strong statement.  It is obviously not
true or about as true as saying "kids are thieves".  You would be
angered to be labeled that way but you do exactly the same thing making
unsubstantiated generalizations.

There are many considerations when hiring a person under 18 and also
somebody who is in school.  You can't work 8 hours per day during the
times when the store is the busiest, your grades might slip and your
parents may say you can no longer work at the store, etc., etc.

Finally (and don't take all this personally) you demonstrate in your
message that you hate rejection.  Somebody isn't going to buy the
computer that you recommend and I get the feeling you'll call them a
jerk and explain how much more you know than they do.  Maybe they
are jerks and maybe you do know more but they have the money for the
computer and they will take it elsewhere.

Feel free to ignore my posting if you like, use whatever parts of it
you can and consider starting up a part-time endeavor of your own, it
is always better to _show_ somebody how much you know than to _tell_
them.

tom
.

Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: jarqui@scorch.apana.org.au (Jared Quinn)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:34:39 GMT

|tell me about it, there are a few stores out there(I won't mention names 
|of course) that call them selves America's Technology Store, than they 
|turn around and hire people who know very little about computers.  I am 
|most certainly not a computer expert, but I sure know more than most of 
|the ones I have seen.  We have a fairgrounds, and it very handy because 
|when summer and fair come around it is easy for pre-16 year olds to get 
|jobs at the food vendors.

Well It's not 1/2 obvious that most comp. salespeople r  just  trained
parrots, they wouldn't know what 1/2 the specs they quote are...

Even  trained repair techs sometimes stuff up completely...  When this
486  was about 3 days old it was becoming apparent there was definatly
a problem in either the motherboard or my drive  controller...    they
guy i brought it off...  Tony, (i wont  disclose  his  company  name),
took it back to replace whatever was faulty...  I got the machine back
with  COM1  not plugged into the I/O card and several other things not
plugged into the correct things...  If i can open it up and fix  these
instantly  surely  i'd be better qualified for the job then the person
who was MEANT to fix it...

-- 
   // jarqui@scorch.apana.org.au  //
 \X/         (Jared Quinn)      \X/

Tip the world over on its side and everything loose will land
in Los Angeles.
FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT
From: biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Bridget Ingham)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: HI!
Followup-To: alt.kids-talk
Distribution: world
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Summary: 
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:43:40 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

In article <1992Dec10.234919.239@zooid.guild.org> Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org> writes:
> 
> From sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
> >>Is everybody ready for Christmas?
> >
> >No, why don't we skip it this year?
> 
>     Bah.  I'm not in the mood for christmas this year.
> 
> 
>     Except for the sleep time.  That I like.
> 
>     Oh, and the skiing.

We can't ski in New Zealand Christmas - it's summer over here!!!
 


    Bridget Ingham              biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand
From: hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Choi)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:44:37 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Dec9.015425.17662@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Don't even try to get a real job. (Not to discourage you or anything.)
>I'm 15 too and I've tried. I didn't want to work at McDonald's or the
>grocery store like everyone else, so I applied to computer stores. 

	Hey Scott, why don't you and tohers try enterprising and form your
	own business? Obviously you can't open your own computer store, but
	for yourself (Sorry, but I don't know your abilities with computers
	but I'll take your word for it). You could go into the consulting
	business, help some local firms setup the computer, etc...

	It may not sound too realistic, but it's a start. Of course you
	don't have to go to the computing, there's other market to vie for.
>
>If you really want a job, you'll probably be able to find one at
>MacDonald's or something, just don't even bother to look for a good
>one, people hate kids. What really pisses me off are some of the morons
>who work at this place that turned me down. These people just sit around
>doing nothing whereas I'd actually help people. Geez.....

	I know the feeling. But there may be the age factor too
	(discrimination - may cause you're still 15). Just keep at it. I'm
	sure you and other can find something within your scope without
	having to sell your soul |8-)
>
>-Scott

				Pete
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:25:21 GMT

bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan) writes:
>cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Dan Lieberman) writes:

>> The only REAL way to make money is to know what you're doing.
>> I'm 14, and I run a computer consulting firm, in Seattle Washington.
>> The Business is Called DBL Computing, in whici I don consulting on computer
>> matters, audio, video, and networking.  I am the current computer consultant
>> at my middle school. 

>Wow! Can I touch you? maybe some of your godliness will rub off on me

Ken:  Don't know if this was just an attempt at humor but I will point out
that Dan will get far more offers than Scot if the messages reflect anything
about attitude.

I'd hire Dan _because_ he's aggressive.  One doesn't hire somebody who is a
complainer (despite any level of expertise) because it pisses off everybody
else at the company and might piss off customers.

It is one thing to have an employee and ask them to temper their enthusiasm
but quite another to have one that gripes about how unfair and stupid the
world is... we're aware of that but we're stuck here.

tom
From: daniel@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: How to get on Kids net?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:39:11 EST
Reply-To: daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net  (Daniel Drucker)
Organization: Abnormalities of Reality

kolbralj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

> Does anyone have the address of kids net and how to get on it?

I you mean the listserv for it? I just tried, it said "no such list"



--
Daniel Drucker        N2SXX       Coconut seashells whispering to me
daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net         "Forever, forever, my Coda..."
From: cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Dan Lieberman)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:00:08 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Dec9.015425.17662@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper) writes:

>Don't even try to get a real job. (Not to discourage you or anything.)
>I'm 15 too and I've tried. I didn't want to work at McDonald's or the
>grocery store like everyone else, so I applied to computer stores. 
>Anybody who knows me knows that I know enough about computers to run
>a damn computer store, and yet I only got one reply. After having
>an interview, and having my responsibilities explained to me, the 
>guy waited about a month to call me back. He said that there were no
>available positions. I knew that was crap because he had told me what
>the available positions were when I had my interview. 

>If you really want a job, you'll probably be able to find one at
>MacDonald's or something, just don't even bother to look for a good
>one, people hate kids. What really pisses me off are some of the morons
>who work at this place that turned me down. These people just sit around
>doing nothing whereas I'd actually help people. Geez.....

>-Scot

Dood.....  And everyone else.

The only REAL way to make money is to know what you're doing.
I'm 14, and I run a computer consulting firm, in Seattle Washington.
The Business is Called DBL Computing, in whici I don consulting on computer
matters, audio, video, and networking.  I am the current computer consultant
at my middle school. 

That's how you do it...

Dan Lieberman
DBL Computing
(206)364-9088
(206)364-7776
cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:34:59 GMT

Sorry I haven't checked this group in a while, so I haven't read all
my criticism until now. I haven't even read them all, so this is a 
reply to tom's reply. 

I honestly think that I could run a computer store, if I had the time.
I can do accounting if necessary, and have a strong business sense. Of
course, not many teens have time to run a whole store, and there's not
as much of a market for just-Mac stores.

I did follow up several times. I kept calling the guy and even went in
after the interview to talk to him. He kept saying, "i'll call you 
tomorrow and if I don't, then call me back," which I did several times.
In fact, even after getting rejected, I sent the guy a QuickTime movie
with Arnold S.'s voice dubbed over a movie of my lip syncing "I'll be
back" because he had told me to call about a job later. 

What I meant by "people hate kids" is that SOME people hate kids. By
no means did I mean to say that all people hate kids. I mean that from
the point of view of the head of a large store, they just don't want to
give kids a chance. I offered to work for one weekend for free, and still
nothing. I don't think it was the interviewer's decision, it was probably
above him.

Yes, age is a factor, obviously, but not as much as you think. What adult
could help out a kid looking for a good program to do his school homework
on or play a game with. Because of my background, I would have been able
to help more common people, because I don't have a perspective of somebody
who's gone to college and sees their job as work, not the potential to rise
up. (does that make sense?)

Please don't worry about my grades. I have so many study halls during the
day that even if I worked from when I got home until midnight, when I
usually go to sleep anyway, i'd get all my work done. No prob there.

I can deal with rejection, really I can....well, kind of. You're right there.
It hurt not getting a job at a computer store. At school, everybody thinks
of me as the computer expert. I had always thought that I was the best and
I suddenly realized that a professional computer user may not see that.
However, I maintain that many of the people who work there do not have the
background that I do. I have used Macs, PCs, and others, and many many
software packages. I have knowledge of hardware, software, and programming.

Well, that's about everything you commented on, I'll have to read the
others now. ;-)

-Scott
From: gpt@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (gabe.p.torok)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: joke
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:21:37 GMT
Organization: AT&T


	Here's a joke for you guys-

	There once was a man who found a lamp, rubbed it,
and a genie appeared.  He was granted 3 wishes
His 1st was to be 10 times smarter than he was now.
The genie said poof, and the wish was granted.  His 
second with was to be 1000 times smarter than He was now.
Once again, the genie said poof, and his wish was granted.
For the man's last wish, he asked to become 10,000,000
times smarter than he was now.  The Genie asked him if he
was possitive this was what he wanted, and the man said of 
course.  So, for the final time, the genie said poof,
disappeared into the lamp, and the man was transformed into a woman
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


			Aliza














t a wo\
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
Subject: Re: How can teen make money
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:44:56 GMT

Thanks, but I don't know. I don't know what kind of consulting there
would be. I use Macintoshes, and most consulting is done with PC's
or bigger systems. A computer store would've been perfect. I can use
both Macs and PC's, but I really favor Macs. Oh well, Obla-di,obla-da
Life Goes On.

-Scott