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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: SYBASE crashes 3.0  - and SOLUTION !
Reply-To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:04:19 GMT


It's almost 1 year ago since several people have noticed, that Sybase would  
eventually crash the NeXT. It happened always after about 1000 logins into  
the server. I had some discussion with 'ask_next' and it came out, that it  
was a bug in NeXT-networking software. Anyway, nobody at NeXT could give a  
solution, so I waited for 3.0. Now, running the crash program showed the  
same behaviour: after 1000 logins the NeXT would come to a complete stop. 

Because several people have reported this bug, it is not understandable,  
nor acceptable that the responsible people at Next didn't care about it at  
all, even if I had given them my short program which verified the crash.  

Because the DB-Kit is one of the big improvements of 3.0, it's a mjor  
annoyance. Today I have tried again to find out what happens. And the  
solution is so simple:

Sybase (in the standard installation) uses port numbers 3696 and 4696 for  
communication with the server. NeXT internally assignes portnumbers  
1024-5000. This is standard BSD behaviour, btw.

And a 'netstat' just before crash-time showed: The NeXT tries to assign the  
same port Sybase is using !

So after changing the Sybase-installation to use portnumbers greater than  
5000, everything worked fine !

So for every tcp/ip-User/Programmer:

	NEVER USE PORT-NUMBERS <= 5000 !

Perhabs this should become part of the FAQ !


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From: jfields@pinball.arcade.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields)
Subject: NS 3.0 questions
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:46:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

1) In the Workspace, how can you customize the animation, or lack thereof, and eliminate the 'telescoping' effect when you open files?

2) In Librarian, what the heck is the deal with indexes? They are messed up.

3) What are the complete, idiot-proof instructions for changing the number of 
system buffers to 64 using the sd- nbuf=64 command in the ROM Monitor? I tried 
this, but my Cube still boots up with 16 buffers.

Jeff Fields
From: mhn@black.ucop.edu (Mark H  Needleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: next 3.0
Date: 9 Oct 1992 20:35:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: black.ucop.edu

Hi

I just upgraded a next station turbo from 2.2 to 3.0 and right before the  
upgrade there were 188 megs free on the disk - after the upgrade there was  
100 megs free - all I selected was English for the language and USA for
the keyboard - I checked the /Next... directories and compared them to a  
2.2 system and they have grown about 20 megs - but that doesnt account for  
the rest of the space. I called the Next 800 number but they dont seem
to have any idea of why this would occurr.

Does anyone have any explanation for this or some idea as to what I can do  
about it - 88 megs seems a bit much

Mark Needleman
University of California
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From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: Mail permissions (scary!)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:53:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.10250.14181@ms.uky.edu> kevins@slow.inslab.uky.edu  
writes:
> Hmmm... Most of the accounts on the machines I've seen have a 755  
permission on  

Under 3.0 the default protection is:
ls -ldg /usr/template/user/Mailboxes
drwxr-xr-x  3 root     wheel       1024 Jul 25 01:11  
/usr/template/user/Mailboxes/

I do not have a 2.x handy to look.  My home Mailboxes directory created
long long long long ago has protections of 775  Probably sloppiness on
my part...

pasc
From: tim@rri.UUCP (Tim Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HostManager and UserManger don't work
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:40:07 GMT
Organization: Recognition Research Inc., Blacksburg, VA

In article <1992Oct7.170405.18884@nwnexus.WA.COM> dean@thrall.com writes:
>
>Ok, guys I have a problem. I just upgraded to 3.0 last week. No problems until  
>now. I just attempted to run HostManager.app and it doesn't launch. It starts  
>to, but fails. Same goes for UserManager.
>
>The only thing that I can think of is taht my SLIP software is messing it up.  
>When you configure the SLIP you change to a Non-Netinfo network. It worked ok  
>under 2.1 , but 3.0 seems to be broken. Also launching NetInfoManager, it  
>brings up my SLIP connection befroe it reads the database.
>
>So if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
>
I doubt it has anything to do with your SLIP software.  I've had the same
thing happen to two different NeXTstations I was upgrading, one of which did
not have any SLIP software installed at the time, the other has never had
SLIP software anywhere near it!

I've posted about this 3 times so far, and nobody has ever responded, not
even to say they've had the same problem (at least until now).  I'm relieved
to know it's not just me!

Any ideas anyone?  I solved the problem on my home machine by reinstalling
3.0 from scratch (booting from the CDROM, etc...), but there should be a
better way to solve or prevent this problem.

Timothy Buck   --   rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu OR timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu
 Recognition Research, Inc. (703) 231-6500	++ NeXTmail accepted ++
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson)
Subject: HostManager and UserManger don't work
Reply-To: dean@thrall.com
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:04:05 GMT


Ok, guys I have a problem. I just upgraded to 3.0 last week. No problems until  
now. I just attempted to run HostManager.app and it doesn't launch. It starts  
to, but fails. Same goes for UserManager.

The only thing that I can think of is taht my SLIP software is messing it up.  
When you configure the SLIP you change to a Non-Netinfo network. It worked ok  
under 2.1 , but 3.0 seems to be broken. Also launching NetInfoManager, it  
brings up my SLIP connection befroe it reads the database.

So if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Dean Johnson

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From: steves@truevision.com (Steve Spicklemire)
Subject: Atalkd
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:45:26 GMT

Hi again,

	I've been experimenting with atalkd a bit more to see what conditions
seem to make it break, and there does seem to be a fairly clear pattern. 
If I'm the only one in the building (i.e., no-one else is printing, or 
really using the network) I can print to my heart's content as long as 
nothing 'bad' happens (e.g., the printer runs out of paper, ouch! 
-> zombie land). If other folks are printing and the NeXT has to 'wait 
in AppleTalk line', it's generally bad news. Anyway, I haven't heard
any fixes yet for this, but at least now I know that it helps to 1) check
for plent of paper first and 2) wait for everyone else to go home! :-(.

BTW, other than this *one* problem, I'm *really* liking 3.0. Of course
I've never had a 24M station before, bit I'll take a 24M 3.0station 
over an 8M 2.1 station *any* day. :-)

cheers,
-steve





-- 
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steves@truevision.com (daily)	spicklemire@gandlf.uindy.edu (NeXTmail!)
Dept. of Mathematics and Physics, Univ of Indianapolis 
(317) 788-3313
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: bug in tar, anyone fixed it?
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:33:16 GMT
Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik

In article <1asqpiINNpq0@gap.caltech.edu>  writes:
> 
> Robert Frank suggests:
> 
> >> YEP, GNU! get GNUtar... (it's all over the places, on many different  
servers)
> 
> Actually, it's already on your NeXT 3.0 system.  It's called (suprise)
> gnutar.

Stupid me, of course it is, I should have known!

> David Lemson suggests:
> 
> >> Also there is some variant of tar that handles >100 char filenames
> >> buried in 3.0, in Installer.app.  I think it's called installer_bigtar.
> 
> Right.  I linked it to the name "bigtar" in my path, and I use that
> to manually extract selected items out of NeXT .tar.Z files inside
> ..pkg files, since bigtar is what made them.  I do not know if bigtar
> and gnutar use incompatible methods for storing longer names or not.
> I do know that bigtar and gnutar are different.

From my understanding of GNU tar, using the 'big option' does make the tar  
incompatible to the usual tar.

> 
> Mark Adler
> madler@cco.caltech.edu

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Institut fuer Informatik             fax  + (061) 321 99 15                 
University of Basel, Switzerland                                            
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: networking with a pc
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:18:19 GMT

verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) writes:

>Daniel Hitt (hitt@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>: How does one network a pc with a NeXT?
>: 
>: There are two desired levels:
>: (1), where you can use ftp and telnet from the pc to the NeXT, and
>: (2), where you can use the NeXT as some kind of file server.
>: In both cases, i would like to use ethernet instead of a serial port.
>: 
>: What kind of software and hardware is necessary on the pc for (1)?
>: I suppose that on the NeXT end one only has to connect the ethernet cable---
>: is that right?

>I use FTP Software's PC/TCP on the PC with a 3c503 ethernet card. I can:

I use this exact same setup, too.
But if you are really cheap and only want to do (1) - get a cheap
ethernet card like the 3c503 (you might want to get a 16-bit
ethernet card for your PC like a Western Digital Elite 16 for better
performance) and ftp the software from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.  Anything
in the NCSA_Telnet directory will work for you, I like the Clarkson
(CUTCP2.2N) package myself.

(FTP's PC/TCP is somewhat expensive, although your campus might have
a site license like ours does, making it quite cheap)
-- 
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                  BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: bug in tar, anyone fixed it?
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:15:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.084806.10760@urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch writes:
>In article <ti6ls.718300894@tuhhco>  writes:
>> As the man pages say "The current limit on file name length is 100  
>characters."
>> Has anyone fixed this bug?


Actually, try out /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar

It is NOT NOT compatible with "tar" but works fine for over 100
character lines.

- darcy

>> 
>> 
>>  
>/*****************************************************************************/
>> /*      Ludger Solbach, AB Techn. Inf. VI, TU Hamburg-Harburg, Germany        
>*/
>> /*                         Tel.: 040/7718-3357                                
>*/
>> /*                   Email: solbach@tu-harburg.dbp.de                         
>*/
>>  
>/*****************************************************************************/
>
>YEP, GNU! get GNUtar... (it's all over the places, on many different servers)
>--
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>Institut fuer Informatik             fax  + (061) 321 99 15                 
>University of Basel, Switzerland                                            
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>CH-4056 Basel          X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
>                   ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )


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From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: Re: Limiting printers/faxes to specific users (ARRRGGGG)
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:15:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.180825.11992@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Paul S. Sears) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.155329.29458@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Paul  
> S. Sears) writes:
> =>
> =>What exactly is the _writers property for under the printer/fax entry  
in  
> =>Netinfo??
> =>
> =>I was wondering if I could use this property to only allow specific  
users to  
> =>print to this printer.  Or is this just to allow modifications to the  
> =>printers/fax modems themselves.  If this is the case, does anyone know  
of a  
> =>way to only allow specific users to use a printer?  Is there anyway to  
limit  
> =>who can _send_ faxes since using the printmanager it is easy to limit  
who  
> can  
> =>receive them but it seems (by looking at the logs) that anyone can  
send? 
> =>
> =>I cannot simply limit which machines see the printer because this  
printer  
> will  
> =>be located in a lab setting and thus, it is currently accessable to  
> anyone...
> 
> Ok. that was my original query.  I have done some investigating in  
printcap  
> and I found this really useful capacility that was listed in the man  
page:
> 
> rm	str	NULL		restricted group.  Only members of group  
> allowed access
> 
> I thought hey, this is PERFECT... so what's the catch??
> 
> Well, it works fine if you try to print via the command line:
> 
> oak> lpr -PN396_D_EE_Lab testfile.txt
> lpr: Not a member of the restricted group
> 
> 
> So it works fine using lpr, what's the problem?  The problem is that  
printing  
> via the printpanel of any NeXTSTEP application seems to ignore this  
restricted  
> group option (rg) in a printcap entry... ARRRRGGGGHH!!!!
> 
> Any other ideas?  Or is there anyway to kick npd in the head and tell it  
to  
> obey what is listed in the printcap entry??
> 
> --
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Should be 
rg  str  NULL  restricted group. Only members of group allowed access

--
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From: da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Apfelbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Weird bug
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:00:03 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I had this weird bug happen to me a few days ago under NeXTStep 3.0. 
Does anyone know if (1) It's a known feature, (2) It's unique to me, (3)
It's unique to NextStep 3.0, or (4) It's common and known from NeXTStep
2.x??

I typed 'exit' for the login-name (& blank (empty) password).  The
workspace then began a shutdown & restart sequence.  While it was doing
this, I tried to make the screen as dark as possible.  When it finished
restarting, I could not make the screen any brighter.  Repeating this
process with making the screen brighter during the shutdown/restart of
workspace reversed this, with my screen being at full brightness and
unable to "darken".  Going into preferences and dragging the
screen-brightness slider changed the screen temporarily, but as I
watched, it would move the slider back to where it originally was. 
Rebooting, as expected, produced a full cure.


So, is this a old one for any of you???

		-David Apfelbaum.
		 da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: teb@dendron.forestry.umn.edu (Thomas E. Burk)
Subject: printing to remote NeXT laser
Reply-To: teb@dendron.forestry.umn.edu (Thomas E. Burk)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:37:10 GMT

I am having trouble printing to a NeXT laser hung off another machine. Here are  
the specifics:

1. my machine (dendron) is running 2.1 and "Non-Netinfo Network"
2. my printcap has the following entry which has been niloaded

Daves_NeXT: \
		:lp=:rm=trees:rp=Local_Printer:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/dsnp: \
		:ty=NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer:

3. the other machine (trees) is in the same domain running 3.0 and "Non-Netinfo  
Network"
4. the other machine has a hosts.equiv with a dendron entry

When I print to "Daves_NeXT" it gets spooled but never prints. The status file  
in /usr/spool/NeXT/dsnp has a line "Waiting for queue to be enabled on trees".  
Nothing shows up in the Queue in my PrintManager for "Daves_NeXT" when I print.

The strange thing is that when something is printed "locally" from trees to  
trees' Local_Printer, it shows up in the "Daves_NeXT" Queue in my PrintManager.  
So I have to assume trees is willing to let dendron send things to its printer.

What have I left out? I have been doing the same thing for a long time under  
2.x to a remote Laserwriter through CAP. Why not a NeXT printer?

--
Thomas E. Burk
University of Minnesota
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BITNet: teburk@umnacvx.bitnet
USFS DG: t.burk:x400
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Configuration for a SupraFaxModem v.32bis
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:21:02 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Has anyone managed to install a SupraFaxModem v.32bis under 3.0? If
so, would you mind sharing your configuration files with me?

I've managed to get my modem working, but not at speeds above 9600.
Perhaps I'm just new at dealing with /etc/ttys and /etc/remote, and
perhaps the cable isn't really doing the hardware handshaking that
it's supposed to be doing. In any event, I'm a bit confused, and would
like to take a look at someone else's setup.

Reuven
(No NeXTmail)
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From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Indexing with DL ?
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:38:06 GMT

I need a hint how to prepare indexes for some file sets.
More specifically, I have put into my bookshelf the following directories:
	/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes
	/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev
	/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin
	/NextLibrary/Documentation/ManPages
	/NextLibrary/Documentation

After moving the appropriate icons from the WM to the DL Window, the icons
were placed in the DL's shelf, with a little circle in the left upper corner
and the "I" letter inside. This suggested, that the existing index was
recognized. One could also use the DL's operations "List Titles" and "Search"
with expected result.

The "Bookshelf/Save" was executed, to update the bookshelf file.

But then, after quitting the DL, and starting it again, I have noticed that
the "I" letter disappeared. First after re-making the indexes with
the "Target Inspector/Set Up", the "I" letter came back and remained permanent.

Still, I would prefere to use the original indexes (copied during the NS3.0
installation). Is it possible ?

And another problem: I could not make indexes for the "ManPages" - the indexing
utility has hanged just at the start. In the "ManPages" subdirectory I have
found ".index.itype" (with "manso" contents) and ".index.iname" (with "whatis
cat1 ... cat8" contents). Still, I did not see DL using those files
during (attempt of) indexing.

Thank you for help ...

	-Z.
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: sendmail for UUCP
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:50:55 GMT
Originator: matthews@oberon.umd.edu

Has anyone gotten their sendmail file to work for a uucp machine?  e.g., I
have a uucp feed which my machine polls every now and then.  Incoming mail
has the 'From ' line correct (uucp-host!internet.host!userid) but the From:
line, which is what governs replies, is always userid@internet.host, which
just doesn't cut it for me.

Incoming mail comes from internet.host!userid (a la 'mailq' and the uucp
logs), no mention of the uucp-host, but rules S3 and S6 convert it back to
the valid Internet mail address.  I'm using the equivalent of
sendmail.subsidiary.cf for this case.

Any help would be appreciated.  (I already tried sendmail 5.65IDA, couldn't
get that to work because it would always try to do a network domain name
lookup even though I had uucp everywhere in the config file.)
------
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------
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get your Feet wet.  Fall not in Love, therefore: it will stick to your
face.
From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Will I gain by using a swapdisk in my situation?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:40:49 GMT
Reply-To: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

Cube, 68040, 24MB RAM.
1 MAXTOR 330MB internal, 1 DEC DSP 3105 (1G) external, bootdevice

Currently the MAXTOR is not seriously used, except for backup of some data.

I cam considering making it a swapdisk. I know 330MB is a lot (I normally do
not exceed the 16MB lowat mark. But I ask myself if this separate disk might
improve any swapping performance with respect to the Dec that holds the root
file system also. De DEC is faster, but it has other tasks as well. Any
suggestions? (Like: sell me your MAXTOR for $ xx)

Thanks,

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