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From: perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke)
Subject: Re: ATM fraud
Keywords: n
Organization: Unify Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:09:16 GMT

vpaf5@rosie.uh.edu (Kal) wrote:
>In article <1992Nov2.161609.11197@pony.Ingres.COM>, sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney) writes...
>>In article <1992Nov2.050506.20367@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>>>sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney) writes:

[polarized debate on where PINs are stored deleted]

I think that we might find that different countries have different systems.

My experiences in the UK and the US would lead me to believe that the PIN is
stored on the card in the UK and in the host computer in the US (it is used
to certify the transaction).  

Proof of this is in the way that invalid PINs at foreign ATMs are dealt
with.  In the US I have to get all the way to end of the session (entering
PIN, amount of money, etc) before it reports that my PIN was invalid, in the
UK the report is given as soon as the bad PIN is entered.

Another piece of information stored on UK cards is the amount of money
withdrawn in the current "period" (used to enforce #300 per day, or
whatever).

Yes, this does make the UK system less secure.  Try getting a bank to admit
that, though.

Perry
--
Perry Clarke                   perry@unify.com                 (916) 928 6287
Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA                    Manager, Peacock Project
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Real Death at Disney
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 21:14 EST  

In article <1992Nov13.215926.21700@u.washington.edu>, 
  medic@hardy.u.washington.edu (Travis Lauricella) writes...

>The article, regarding a death in DisneyWorld, has been canceled.

>Besides, a friend of a friend of mine got hauled off to jail for doing that.

For dying at Disney World, or for cancelling an article?

 - snopes

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From: rbrown@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Rich Brown -- Neither)
Subject: Re: Trick or Treat Tampering
Originator: rbrown@troon.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Summary: These legends have been around for a long, long time!
Organization: Borgias 'R' Us
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:57:36 GMT
Keywords: razor blades, pins, needles, cyanide, gasoline, LSD, strychnine

In article <HERMIT.92Nov6062219@am.ucsc.edu> hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:
>I think this UL started with the Tylenol poisoner to which we owe a
>huge debt for the current "tamper-evident" packaging trend.  Is there
>some other event that predates that scare which might have been the
>source of the Halloween poison UL?

Well, I don't know of the event that was the source, but I first heard this UL
when I was trick-or-treating in the *fifties*!  Long before that Tylenol guy.

>Bill "I'm feeling pins and needles" Ward

-- 
Rich "Geezer" Brown
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!!  (As seen on TV)
Keywords: We don' nee' no stinkeen' keywords!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:22:50 EST

In article <1992Nov7.070238.542@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>
>Wrong.  Actually, the T in James T. Kirk stands for "Tananarivo," the
>capital of Madagascar.  Madagascar is home, of course, to 99% of the world
>supply of Lemurs, and as we all know, Gene Roddenberry was a huge Lemur
>fan.  However, the producers wouldn't let him incorporate Lemurs into the
>cast because they were afraid that the clever, cunning little primates
>would somehow find a way to make the phasers, tricorders, and photon
>torpedoes actually *work*.  Plus, in shooting of the pilot, The Cafe, you
>can see Lemurs swinging by overhead on the restaurant lights during the
>scene in which Pike gets the Talosians to pick up the check.  This was not
>a situation which Desilu wanted to see happen again.
>

Gee, my map says the capital of Madagascar is ANTANANARIVO. Doesn't
start with T. Nice try, though..|-)

Chris

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From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Ex-presidents
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date:  5 Nov 1992 20:46 EST  

In article <1992Nov5.191840.6517@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
  thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes...

>Lessee, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, yeah, you must be forgetting
>Kennedy.  Everyone knows Kennedy's *really* still alive.  Fight the power!
>Don't let them fool you with accusations of "five" ex-presidents.

Well, Reagan wasn't really alive when he was in office, so I don't think it's
fair to apply that adjective to him now.

 - snopes

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Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:32:08 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Nov9.202523.23043@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> reid@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Robert Reid) writes:
>
>Ok., I've looked this up in two dictionaries and have been unable to find
>a definition for the word courgette. My office mates and I are curious as
>to just what it is.

Easy.  It's a baby Corgi!

ObClue: There is a band round here called The amazing flying Zucchini brothers 

Derek "Vegetable Synonyms 'R Us" Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten)
Subject: Re: Merry-go-round vs. Carousel
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-18934]: bourbon
Organization: E.E. Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:09:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov04.023716.13398@ozrout.uucp> stirling@ozrout.uucp (Stirling Westrup) writes:
>warren@nysernet.org writes
>>robcruic@intacc.uucp (Robert Cruickshank) writes:
>>
>>    In an old magazine I found a reference to the belief that when discussing
>>    amusement rides with mechanical horses attached, a carousel is said to go
>>    counterclockwise, and a merry-go-round clockwise. (or vice versa).
>>
	In New Orleans (where we have our own term for EVERYTHING) it's
called The Flying Horses.  The term sprang from a very ornate carousel
that still exists in City Park and was, in time, applied to ALL carousels
and merry-go-rounds.

						Derek Toten


Derek Toten
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From: davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Can the Prime Minster be Catholic?
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:51:36 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: davew@willow03


In article <1992Nov9.104912.14410@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
> From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford Pinkerton)
> >A Catholic prime minister would certainly raise major questions of
> >protocol however: for example, certain appointments within Britian's
> >State Church (Bishoprics, etc) are made on the prime minister's
> >recommendation.    A Catholic prime minister would therefore be selecting
> >the leaders of a competing franchise.
> >
> >So has there ever been a Catholic prime minister?
> 
> I don't believe there ever has been a Catholic PM, but there
> have been PMs from other non Church of England denominations
> for whom the same comments could apply.
>
My wife tells me that Maggie Thatcher was Methodist.
-- 
Dave Wagner                                     Cray Research, Inc
davew@cray.com , uunet!cray!davew               655F Lone Oak Drive
(612) 683-5393                                  Eagan, MN  55121
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From: govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Govender)
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of the Witwatersrand
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:41:09 GMT

>dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
>: 
>: The London Times, May 11, 1987 ("Smallpox vaccine triggered Aids virus in
>: Africa and Haiti") tells how the World Health Organization injected
>: 100 million Africans (plus 14,000 Haitians working in Zaire) with AIDS
>: infested smallpox vaccines. When the Haitians returned to Haiti, it spread 
>: there. That's why when AIDS was first publicized, being Haitian mysteriously
>: made you "high risk". 

i remember reading the article quoted above and my recollection of it
differs significantly from that above.the article claimed that the hiv
virus was a spontaneous "reaction" to the smallpox vaccines.among the 
"evidence" presented was that large scale outbreaks of the hiv virus
in africa and south america,twp areas where there had been intensive 
anti-smallpox campaigns.there was no suggestion of any deliberate or
malicious intent anywhere in the article. 

morgan govender
govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za
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From: ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:25:02 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <EBU.92Nov8210348@lk-hp-12.hut.fi>, ebu@snakemail.hut.fi (Erik Bunn) writes:
> 
> Don't know about this one, but the ATM coup someone allegedly made in
> Italy was pretty good =). Pick an ATM that's sunk into the wall
> and insert a false cover over it. They made it realistic - keyboard,
> motorized car slot, and a computer that first read the code number,
> then announced that the card is damaged, please contact your bank.
> The next night the false ATM would be moved and the cards and
> corresponding PINs utilized to the fullest.. 

My favorite story is one that allegedly happened somewhere around here (Urban
Legend, of course). Someone placed a cardboard box next to a night depository
and posted a sign saying "Night depository out of order. Please use box."
Lots of people did.
-- 

Roger Ivie                      "My God! That computer is full of Pentium!
ivie@cc.usu.edu                  It's a wonder that you haven't been turned
                                 into mutants!"
From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Spenser dissertation
Date: 9 Nov 1992 01:23:13 GMT
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
NNTP-Posting-Host: skybridge.scl.cwru.edu
Keywords: variation

Gene Spafford & maybe a co-author wrote a Nutshell book; on
Unix Security I think.

The helpful Postscript interpreter somehow converted the
backquotes [ ` ] to quotes [ ' ] throughout.

Oops.....

--
A host is a host from coast to coast..wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Organization: a2i network
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:03:55 GMT

In article <flar.721161426@vincent2.iastate.edu> flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
>Hellow, 
>
>I've been following this group for a few days, and have decided to have
>one of my students do a speech for competition on urban ledgends.  

You might start by teaching your students to spell "hello" and "legend".
Sheesh.  All this unemployment, and this Bradley guy still has a job?

Phil "Hey, you thought snopes was mean.  For the time being, you're
stuck with an extremely nasty Phil" Gustafson
-- 
Phil Gustafson <phil@rahul.net>
From: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:57:06 GMT
Reply-To: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <H.ea.HVL3C8yyJoE@harvee.billerica.ma.us> scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us writes:
>i'm sure i'm not the only one who had no idea what a courgette is.  so, for
>the benefit of the ignorant(including me), i looked it up.  it's a brit 
>word for what americans call zucchini("a summer squash of bushy growth with
>smooth cylindrical dark green fruits.").
>
>and all this time i thought it was a misspelling of corgi, which is why the
>title includes the word "doggie".
>
>-- 
>-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
>-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine

You shouldn't be blaming the Brits. They use the French word. Septics
(and Aussies according to Chambers) use the Italian one. Diff'rent strokes...


Tony "but what's a dorgi?" Sweeney.
From: klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Automotive wonders
Keywords: Ol an baine, a-stoirin
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:32:14 GMT
Organization: Duke University, Nuclear Medicine

In article <1992Nov10.014347.14890@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:
>Have I gotta deal fer you. Nearby, (San Antonio Road between Leghorn and
>Middlefield) is a '67 Lotus Elan SS/SE freshly restored and copiously
>documented, only $22K. The bad thing is that there're a Japanese and a German
>both looking to take the thing out of the country. Phil, jump in and rescue
>this beauty!

 Yes, yes, but did anybody die in it?

kg
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From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov9.220737.16282@walter.bellcore.com>, kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner) writes...
>In article <rKB=qf-@engin.umich.edu>, dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
> 
>|> not possible for viruses to cross species, so that story about AIDS
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
>Is rabies caused by a virus?  Is Lyme disease caused by a virus?  Don't
>they carry out animal research on AIDS by infecting monkeys with HIV?
>(I actually don't remember the answers to these questions).

Please, let's not be rational and inject *fact* into this discussion.
I much prefer it at the ignoramus, conspiracy theory level.  After,
it's much more humorous, and it lets us introduce other cockamamie
conspiracy theorists.  For instance:

_The AIDS Continuum: God and Homosexuality_ by Sacco and Vanzetti.
Discusses how AIDS was meant to wipe out heterosexuals, yet because
god created the virus on the eighth day (while hanging out on the
grassy knoll), the virus was corrupted by the Rembrandt virus.

David "Orange Crush?  No, this is all that's left of that alien
that landed in my backyard last night." Anderson
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From: spike@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen Pike)
Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!!  (As seen on TV)
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:25:01 GMT

-- 
     .....{{  -----  __o         Sky clear up.  Sunlight is
     ....{   -----  _\<,         Brilliant.  Let's ride far away.
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From: hleaves@gems.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 8 Nov 92 10:31:01 -0400
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

I was reading an article in an "anarchist" magazine (I can't remember which
one) that was talking about ATM (teller machine) "jackpotting". "Jackpotting"
an ATM machine involves cutting the data lines to the machine and splicing in
your personal computer. When you put an ATM card in the machine your computer
intercepts the ATM's account inquiry messages. It then returns, of course, an
infinite balance on the account, along with other appropriate information
allowing you to withdraw as much money as you can from the machine. The article
said someone had succesfully done this for a take of several thousand dollars.
The article did not give any technical details about the procedure. My question
is: Is this really possible or is this article just a figment of someones
overactive imagination? Has anyone else heard of this being done? Would anyone
care to speculate on how they pulled it off?

-- 
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** Medical College of Virginia        ** Bitnet: hleaves@vcuruby             **
** Department of Human Genetics       ** Voice: (804) 371-8754               **
***************** All non-incendiary communication welcome! *******************
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: dishwasher trick
Date: 8 Nov 1992 02:06:36 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

In <DECHC00.92Nov7161942@tohi.DMI.USherb.Ca> dechc00@tohi.DMI.USherb.Ca (CHRISTIAN DECHAMPLAIN) writes:


>Put some clean plates in your dishwasher before your start it.
>You will see that the rest of your dishes get cleaner than usual.


>--
>Christian Dechamplain|
>(819) 563-8951       |
>dechc00@dmi.usherb.ca|
>----------------------


This Christian guy is an ASSHOLE!!!! I tried his little trick and it took
the pattern off my plates!!! Thanks a whole ------- lot!

-Diverson

--
diverson@phys.ksu.edu
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From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: The amazing disappearing British Constitution
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:44:34 GMT
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston

In article <27407@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>The "oldest"?  What?  How about the Japanese?  Supposedly, they can 
>trace their dynasty back kibollions of years (essentially to the
>Sun god or whatever).

kiboillions?  The only words I see in that section of the "kibe--kibozo"
page of my dictionary are "kibillions", which I think you mean, and
"kiboffing", which is one of life's greatest pleasures.  But not for you.

p.s. you forgot to OVERCAPITALIZE.  Laugh while you can, lowercase boy!

								-- K.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky)
Subject: Re: ...is this a UL??? (3)
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:37:45 GMT

amcbride@axion.bt.co.uk (Alan McBride) writes:

[most of nude surprise party story deleted]

>dining room which was nearer.  They shuffled and
>grunted their way in, turned on the light and there
>waiting for them was a host of family and friends
>and a big surprise party.

Okay, now THIS one I've heard.  Jan Harold Brunvand (who else?  Must be JHB
or Cecil) dealt with this cute story...a variation of it, actually...in
one of his books.

(Those others you posted were rather heinous...)

-- 
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From: wbrown@access.digex.com (William Brown)
Subject: Re: Miss Manners returns. (was 1950's Darryle).
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:33:27 GMT


Dan,
   I didn't say namecalling CAN'T win an argument, I simply implied it was
a) unnecessary b) ineffective at proving a point (you can "win" an
argument without ever proving a point - small arms fire works wonders in
this arena), and c) rude and immature. 

It is all that and more.


Peace

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:04:38 GMT

> > ... he said that the average atm has at least $75,000 dollars...
> I myself have counted/accounted for $70,000 in an ATM ...

Which leads to the ATM scam that gives the greatest reward for the
least physical effort: the Fake ATM Repairman.  Naturally the banks
try not to let this trick be easily done, but in Toronto a year or
two ago, someone managed it more than once in a short time.  The
machines chosen were those in stores rather than in banks.  I don't
remember whether the perpetrator(s) got caught.
-- 
Mark Brader				"Every new technology carries with it
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto			 an opportunity to invent a new crime"
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- Laurence A. Urgenson

This article is in the public domain.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:32:46 GMT

In article <27350@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>  
>  +It's all a matter of opinion, Phil. Take a diode adjustment break.
>
>I concurr.  Take it easy Phill.
>
>Terry "It's Milller Time" Chan

But there are Miller effect diodes as well!

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mind the Gap)
Subject: Re: ...is this a UL??? (3)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:35:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.160922@axion.bt.co.uk> AMcBride@axion.bt.co.uk writes:
>arranged a party for the night of his birthday.  [...]
>His girlfriend arrived early and they got amorous.  [...]
>dining room which was nearer.  They shuffled and
>grunted their way in, turned on the light and there
>waiting for them was a host of family and friends
>and a big surprise party.

Yes.  In JHB's "The Vanishing Hitchhiker."  Variations usually
involve a babysitter.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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