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From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:20:26 GMT

> Jon Reid writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <C04v8t.C26@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
> Posted: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:00:2
>
> Org.  : University of Illinois at Urbana
>
> Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter) writes:
>
> >   Personally, I can't fathom why anyone would use a computer to do Home
> >Finances. As Dave Barry said, you type in how much money you make and
> where
> >you spend it, and (stay with me on this!) it tells you how much money you
> >made and where you spent it. I use a calculator.
>
> A calculator suffices for balancing your checkbook, but have you tried
> keeping a ledger of your assets and liabilities, your income and your
> expenses, and making the books balance each month?  Every month was a
> terrible chore when I did this by hand.  Now that I use Desktop Budget, I
> don't have to balance anything, and I can reconcile its records to external
> reality whenever I want.
>
> I'm not saying this is for everybody; obviously you have no use for it,
> Lloyd.  But I for one want more complete and accurate records.
> --
> Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

    (Remember, this is all Personal Opinion)
    Yes, I do all that, and more, in my consulting business. I use a
spreadsheet to do it. Why? Because packaged programs never seem to suit my
needs (Which seem to change every month).
    This is the classic argument of buying vs building. If you do it
yourself: 1. You know exactly what the program does, 2. it does exactly what
you want it to , and 3. if it doesn't, you can change it.
    In the Early Years of personal computing, just about everyone wrote their
own programs. Now, nobody does. I can whip up an elementary Home Budget on a
spreadsheet in about 10 minutes. Why should I buy a package?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: mike@sarah.albany.edu (Michael Ciarfello)
Subject: Video Director
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:37:53 GMT



I am looking to purchase the Video Director from Gold Disk.  Does
anyone know anything about it?  It is any good/worth getting, etc.

If anyone has it, can you mail me a mini-review.

						Thanks



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Subject: Re: Is SAS C V6 C++ compatible
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:29:26 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Dec22.094220.12440@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, bath@hunnas (David Bath) writes:
|> 
|> --
|> 
|> >>Until the exception-handling is defined a little better, no compiler vendor
|> >>will be able to produce a version with any assurance that it will remain   
|> >>compliant in the future.  True, exception handling will change the style   
|> >>in which objects are developed;  this makes it even more important not     
|> >>to make the wrong change!
|> 
|> Should we assume from this that next year's SAS C++ won't have exception
|> handling (a la AT&T 3.0)?

Yes, sorry - I thought I had said that, but I guess not...  we will
not have exception handling.

|> | David Bath			| bath@ozrock.enet.dec.com                    |

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Any opinions expressed are mine, not those of SAS Institute, Inc.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: accs1@bagheera.mumath
Subject: Re: Is SAS C V6 C++ compatible
Reply-To: accs1@bagheera.mumath
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 09:50:36 GMT

In article HGy@unx.sas.com, walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec17.090233.26443@sunbim.be>, accs1@bagheera.mumath writes:
>|> I wonder it will require SAS/C 6.x. Does this mean it will produce C-source
>|> code which is to be compiled with 6.x ? When I talked to the guys from SAS 
>|> during the 'AMIGA Messe' in Cologne in 1991 they said it will *for sure* directly
>|> produce object code.
>
>I'm sorry, but you are wrong.  I was one of the guys there and we
>were saying no such thing, because it is not true.
>
>I have a hard time understanding why people are SO CONCERNED that
>the C++ not use C as an intermediate step.  You will never see the
>C file produced unless you ask to; the process will be as seamless
>as using the C compiler itself.  Speed and debuggability are not
>dependent on the intermediate language used.  Choice of algorithms
>in the translator is more important than the fact that it uses
>C as an intermediate.
>
>Eventually the translator will be modified and will replace the C
>front-end completely, but not in the first version.  Keep in mind
>that some intermediate language will always be used, that's the
>way that compilers work. 
>
>|> Frank
>
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>usenet: walker@unx.sas.com                            bix: djwalker 
>Any opinions expressed are mine, not those of SAS Institute, Inc.
>



Its just fine with me that the compiler produces some intermediate language (whichever
it is) and its even more fine if I don't see unless I want to see it. I was concerned
that I would get C source _only_ as the compile result and need to run a separate
C-compiler to get my executable. I'm sorry that I made you understand it wrong.

So, the guys from the fair where right. It will produce executable code. I start the
C++ compiler and after a while, and I'm sure that while could be made shorter when
getting rid of the C front-end, I will get my executable. Lattice C++ did the same.

Have you ever considered turn-around times as being important? Not that I would change
to a PC, but seeing the compile speed of Turbo-Pascal or Turbo-C simply impresses me.

Will the debugger, which is hopefully delivered with the compile package, handle it
properly (meaning: I'm debugging my C++ source and not the C source) ? 

Frank  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: tmurray@socrates.umd.edu (Tony Murray)
Subject: Chirp When Mouse Clicked?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:44:09 GMT

Hi.

I'd like to put together a setup that causes my A500 to produce
a 'chirp' whenever the left mouse button is pushed.  I presume
I'd need, therefore, a sound sample that was appropriate, and a
small sample-player that was somehow keyed to certain input
events.  

Does anyone know where I might start with this? 

-- 
--Tony Murray (tmurray@socrates.umd.edu)
  Graphics Illustrator
  University of Maryland University College

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: ToolManager & 4000
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:36:38 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1hrdmdINNpkb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cc069@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel Sternklar) writes:
|> 
|> Hello Does ToolManager work ok on the 4000?
|> At times on bootup the toolmanager handler fails.
|> This has happened on two different 4000
|> -Dan
 
 I don't see any reason why this happen. I think the problem is WB3.0
 rather the A4000. But even then, i am surprised TM doesn't work on
 WB3.0.... 
 Unfortunately the author (Stefan Becker) can not read this group
 for the next two months, i try to contact him anyway.

 Good luck

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Angewandte Informatik  SnailMail: Postfach 100131, D-4800 BIELEFELD 1
From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: GUISpell
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:19:15 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

Does anybody know what the latest, complete, released version of Loren
Rittle's GUISpell front-end to ISpell is, and where it could be found?
The only version that archie turned up for me today was 1.0, and I have
heard rumors of newer releases.

Thanks in advance.


-- 
 Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | Wishing I were an emaciated chihuahua. 
 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: un/re TeX for Amiga
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:57:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I'm looking for an amiga version of unreTeX to
convert TeX files to normal ascii and then back again.
Has anyone seen this lately?  I'm trying to run TeX
documents through ProperGrammar and it really doesn't like
the formatting commands.  Does anyone know if there will 
be a newer version of PG before long?   

Thanks,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Is PHASAR still around (was: re Home budgeting program...)
From: tonyc@gnome.amigans.gen.nz (Tony Christie)
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:47:32 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: The Gnomes Home
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Keeping within the subject...

Does anyone know what the latest version of Phasar is ?
Is Antic Software still upgrading/distributing it ?

Thanks.
--
 Tony Christie, Wanganui N.Z. // The person rowing normally doesn't have time
 tonyc@gnome.amigans.gen.nz \X/  to rock the boat.
From: wfaust@venus.adsp.sub.org (Wolf Faust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Post 2.0?
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:19:13 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

After hearing rumors of a V2.0 of Post with 24 bit support (and PS
Level 2), I stoped any plans to invest some time for improving
post.library (and a totaly new user-interface...  the current one
is really worse)

Now, Post V2 is still missing and I need 24 Bit support. Does
anybody know the status of Post?

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Germany                        FIDO: 2:249/3.5
Tel: (+49)69 5486556         CBMNet: wfaust@venus.adsp.sub.org
From: frostbit@src4src.linet.org (Rajesh Goel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Pagestream impressions sought
Date: 3 Jan 93 12:27:46 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <4532@winnie.fit.edu> wood@kepler.pss.fit.edu (Matt A. Wood) writes:
>To users of Pagestream:  Could you please take a minute to tell me
>your impressions of the program?  I'm thinking of buying it for my
>wife, who's an 8th grade school teacher and who currently is using
>Wordperfect.  She'd be using the program for generating tests,
>quizzes, flyers, and banners (this last feature is really why we're
>considering it).  She's not a computer jock and doesn't much like
>reading user manuals, so ease of use and on-line help are very
>important.  Some questions that come to mind:
>
>    * Is the program easy to learn or is the learning curve
>        steep?
>    * Does the program have a good "feel", or are refreshes
>          and such too slow?  (we have a stock A500 w/ 3Mb Ram
>        and 20 Mb A590 HD)
>    * How good is the output?  We have an Epson LQ800 24-pin
>        printer.  Will the program use the printer's fonts
>        for 10 and 12 point for NLQ printing?  Can it mix
>        NLQ printing and the slower 'graphics-mode'
>        character printing in the same document and on the
>        same page?
>    * Are extra fonts a must-buy, or are they really only needed
>        for those doing extensive newsletters and such?
>    * Any problems with the program crashing the system?
>    * Is the clipboard supported?  AREXX?
>
>Plus, if you have any other comments -- especially warnings -- please
>pass them on to me.  Thanks *very* much for your time!
>
>
>
>
>--
>Matt A. Wood                            Physics and Space Sciences
>wood@phy.fit.edu                        Florida Institute of Technology
>(407) 768-8000 (x7207)                  150 West University Boulevard
>(407) 984-8461 (FAX)                    Melbourne, FL  32901-6988


    Pagestream sounds like OVERKILL for your needs.  And you cannot do banners
in it (least I can't with my laser) and it would be TOO slow on a 7.14 Mhz 500.

    You should check out FinalCopy II.  It's a great wordprocessor with some
built-in graphical tools (lines, curves, boxes, etc.) comes with some VERY
USEABLE fonts and is cheap (under $ 100).

------------------------------------------------------
   frostbit@src4src.linet.org
     A4000 -- Workstation performance that's AFFORDABLE
-------------------

P.S. I do NOT have any links with SoftWood except as a satisfied (ab)user.
From: tim@corcoran.rain.com (tim corcoran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: CANON BJ200
Date: 28 Dec 92 05:18:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: corcoran.tim.02rm
Distribution: world
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

Simple question, does a driver exist for this printer.

I am able to use it in EPSONQ mode, but NOT with Wolf-Fausts's BJ130 etc.
driver.

Any help wmail/post would be greatly appreciated.

BTW: It's a fabulous little printer, stunning quality @ excellent price (~$360).

Tim

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From: slhmz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: DynaCADD info Needed.
Date: 25 Dec 92 16:21:58 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hi.

Does anybody know of where to get a hold of the "DynaCADD" demo?
Also, I would really like to talk with somebody that uses DynaCADD
regularly.  I have some specific questions I'd like to ask...

--
Faith Gibson
From: steve@cbmtor.uucp (Steve Vetzal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: using the QMS PS410 with Amiga applications
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:16:53 GMT
Organization: Commodore Business Machines (CANADA)

I thought Final Copy only used its own proprietary fonts? If you can find a
PC application that will send font information, you can redirect the info 
to a floppy disk (assuming the application supports that) and use CrossDOS to
copy the info from the floppy to the par: device. Have fun!

					    Steve Vetzal
From: terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 00:36:56 GMT
 <vcQcs*7W1@light.fipnet.fi> <1992Dec30.173839.15356@koko.csustan.edu>
Organization: Fipnet - Espoo, Finland
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec30.173839.15356@koko.csustan.edu>, Ray Zarling writes:

> Are you sure you are running version 2.1?  I use "&" all the time; with
> external commands, built-ins, aliases, pipes...  It works flawlessly.

  Yes, I'm sure since I didn't have any previous version in my hard disk
and SKsh reported that it is 2.1.

--
Terje Bergstrm
terje@light.fipnet.fi

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: bath@hunnas (David Bath)
Subject: SKsh PNPC and PNPC2 help.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:25:30 GMT


I know these two variables have caused the author a lot of grief.  I believe
I've read all the relevant documentation on them, but I'm still having some
problems.

My current setup (which almost works) is as follows:

PS1='$_ANSI_P3$BPWD>$_ANSI_P1'
PNPC=21                       
PS2='$_ANSI_P2>$_ANSI_P1'     
PNPC2=21

The way I figured it, each prompt has two $_ANSIs each of which count for
10.  So, both PNPC and PNPC2 should be 20, but add one for good measure 
and you get 21.  Is this correct?

The doco for PNPC suggests it should be the count of non-printables in both
PS1 *and* PS2.  That would require I make it 40, but add one (or possibly
two?) for good measure and get 41 (or 42?).  Neither of these work very well.

The setup in the supplied .skshinit implies that PNPC be the count of only
the non-printables in PS1 so I proceeded on that basis and came up with
21 for both of them (as listed above).

The only problem I've noticed so far with this setup is:

If I'm in the root directory, where $BPWD is presumable the empty string,
and I attempt to use filename completion, strange things happen.  I have
a directory in the root directory called Multimedia, so I do the following:

>cd multimedia       
Multimedia>echo $BPWD
Multimedia           
Multimedia>cd /      
>echo $BPWD          
                     
>ls mult<hit TAB here>

after hitting TAB, what I would like to see (on the same line) is:

>ls Multimedia

but what I actually see (on the same line) is:

>ls multls Multimedia

In other words, it correctly prints "ls Multimedia" but rather than starting
where my original "ls" started (i.e. immediately to the right of the ">"),
it started at the position it was at when I hit the TAB.

Anyone got any ideas?
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From: csc2mxs@cabell.vcu.edu (Marko Siladin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: 256k & 512k RAM cards
Date: 28 Dec 1992 07:23:44 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi!
I am interested in the availability, price, tech info and opinions on
256k and 512k cards for the HP48SX. Has anybody used one of those?
Does anybody have one? 

ThanX in advance for any info.

...Marko

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: The "high price" of the HP48!
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
	<PHR.92Dec31125342@napa.telebit.com> <1992Dec31.175810.1@stsci.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:35:35 GMT

    > I'm still waiting to hear about how many uses there are for the 48
    > that fit all these qualifications:
    > 	- the 48 is better for the purpose than a cheap scientific calculator
    > 	- the 48 is better for the purpose than a a 95LX
    > 	- the 48 is better for the purpose than a full-sized personal computer
    > 	- the user is a typical college student
    > 

    Uhhh, how about playing Tetris or Pacman during class?

There's a FREE solution for the non-nerd that provides better
amusement than this: just skip class!
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Cut-down version of RPLMAN.DOC ??
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:22:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.92Dec21212227
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: ramos@engr.LaTech.edu's message of 22 Dec 92 02:09:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.020947.21315@engr.LaTech.edu>
ramos@engr.LaTech.edu (Alex Ramos) writes:

   I am looking for a compiled list of Sys-RPL objects, probably a version
   of RPLMAN.DOC with all the examples and explanations deleted.

   Is there such a thing?

Perhaps the ENTRIES.A file that comes with the development kit?
It is primarily a list of supported entry points.  I believe many
of the words listed are not documented in RPLMAN.DOC anyway.


--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: The "high price" of the HP48!
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 16:58:15 EST
 <PHR.92Dec25155736@napa.telebit.com> <1992Dec26.052935.17881@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
 <PHR.92Dec30220240@napa.telebit.com> <jcFds*740@lemsys.UUCP> <PHR.92Dec31121439@napa.telebit.com>
Distribution: usa
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In article <PHR.92Dec31121439@napa.telebit.com>, Paul Rubin writes:

> In article <jcFds*740@lemsys.UUCP> clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL) writes:
> 
>          I am a University student (in case you can't tell by the .sig). 
>    I'm not rich.  I'm not the son of a major dignitary or world power (just
>    thought I'd clear that up :-).  The HP-48 is a _tool_ for your education. 
>    You require a good calculator (for engineering anyways).  
> 
> Why?  Given access to a good computer, I didn't feel any need at all
> for a fancy calculator.  The $10 Sharp nonprogrammable unit that I
> used was adequate for all my pocket calculator needs.

        Well good for you.  I guess you enjoy doing matrix operations etc..
by hand then.  Bully for you.

>    I found it quite
>    worthwhile to purchase a GOOD calculator to replace my aging and broken
>    calc. I've been using through high school. 
> 
> What did the HP48 do for you that a $10 calculator wouldn't have *and*

        Last, trig, plot, matrices, accept expansions...

> a computer wouldn't have?

        be portable.

>    If you don't buy an HP, chances are you'll have to buy another one before
>    you're done school anyways.
> 
> So what?  I can afford quite a few $10 calculators for the price of an HP48.

        Once again, if you like $10 calculators.

>    You are investing in your education when you
>    buy a calculator.  So you save $70 by not buying HP.  Is that a big deal in
>    the long run?
> 
> I have no question that it's an investment in my education.  My question
> is whether it's a GOOD investment, i.e. whether whether I'd get more
> education per dollar by upgrading my computer, or buying more textbooks,
> or hiring someone to do my laundry so I can spend more time studying, etc.
> And I believe I saved more than $70 by not buying an HP48.  If I could
> get an HP48 for $80, I probably would have gotten one, but they were
> more like $300 (I think they're a little less now).
> 
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