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From: SA@md-b.prime.com
Subject: Sequoia No Longer Traded
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:13:29 GMT


Date  Name                 Volume    Hi/Ask   Low/Bid     Last  Change Update
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12/15 SEQUOIA SYS INC       2850      2.500     2.313    2.344  -0.031   3:56*
12/18 SEQUOIA SYS INC        305      1.875     1.750    1.750  -0.125  10:58
12/22 SEQUOIA SYS INC        602      1.750     1.625    1.688  -0.063   3:53
12/23 SEQUOIA SYS INC       2035      1.719     1.375    1.500  -0.250   4:01
12/24 SEQUOIA SYS INC          0      1.719     1.719    1.719   0.000  Close
                No trading reported since close on 12/24
=============================================================================
12/29 @ 2:00pm

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RTf  12/21 0952  Sequoia Systems<SEQSE.O>explores financing options

    MARLBOROUGH, Mass., Dec 21, Reuter - Sequoia Systems Inc said that the
financial advisor Broadview Associates LP has been retained to advise the
company in connection with its pursuit of a sale of all or part of Sequoia.
    Under the terms of the agreement, Sequoia said Broadview will contact
potential acquirers to ascertain their interest in investing in, or acquiring
Sequoia, participate in negotiations on behalf of Sequoia, and make
recommendations for possible transactions with potential investors.
    It said financing for Sequoia is necessary because of reduced revenues and
operating losses during the past two quarters, and its default under its bank
credit arrangement and liquidity difficulties.
 REUTER
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 1 RTf  12/15 1029  Sequoia Systems <SEQSE.O> gets new CEO

    MARLBOROUGH, Mass., Dec 15, Reuter - Sequoia Systems Inc  said Cornelius P.
    McMullan was promoted to president and chief executive officer, effective
    immediately.
    McMullan joined the company in November as vice president of worldwide
    sales and strategic accounts.
    The position had previously been filled on an interim basis.

    Note: If you remember, McMullan was the President and GM of the Computer
          Systems Business Unit of Prime Computer, Inc. and the only employee
          of COPM, the company that tried to buy PI/open.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: GOLDSTEIN@CSSS-A.Prime.COM
Subject: LHitraot
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:38:37 GMT

To:       lists
From:     D. Miles Goldstein (Goldstein@Csss-A)
Date:     30 Dec 92  10:18 AM
Subject:  L'Hitraot

To all:

Working with and for all of you for the past 13
years (both as Prime Customer and employee) has
been a very enjoyable and rewarding experience.
Monday, January 4, 1993, marks the end(?) of my
affiliation with the 50-Series; I am off to Santa
Clara, California (Silicon Valley), to be the
Manager of Customer Support for a small software
company.  This is an excellent personal and career
opportunity for me, and would not have been possible
without the relationships I have had with you all.

I wish you all the best for 1993 and always.  Like
the commercial says, "To expand your rewards, you
must expand your horizons."  Mine have expanded back
to the West Coast.  Please keep in touch!

Mit freundlichen Gruessen (= with kind regards :-), and Cheers!

- Miles Goldstein

ps: since this industry is so small, I'm sure we'll all meet again ... :-)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: DENIS_KEAL@PR1MEA.Prime.COM (Denis Keal, Software Technical Support)
Subject: Re: X Windows on 50-Series
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:37:44 GMT

Merry Christmas one and all,
                            I believe the project to port Unix to the
50series was called project Maori (New Zealand's *native* people).

Cheers,
Denis.
(New Zealand)
Std.disclaimer
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: X Windows on 50-Series
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 19:32:35 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1h9e2jINNkht@werple.apana.org.au> markd@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Delany) writes:
>Something I've always wanted to know is why the port of Unix to
>50-series was canned (and I don't mean PRIMIX, I mean the genuine
>article). Now what was that project called? Here are my three guesses:
>performance, politics and (you guessed it) segmentation.

It was canned for *one* reason: $$$.  Prime was, at the time, gushing cash
due to the privatization debt.  The project was well-defined, but ran the
risks of cannibalization of existing 50 Series PRIMOS sales, without 
necessarily producing any significant increase in revenues.

By the way, the compilers were to be based on a Prime-developed back-end
connected to the Mips front end and u-code engine, so the compiler issues
were nothing like you expect.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG              {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!sgiblab!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: markd@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Delany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: X Windows on 50-Series
Date: 26 Dec 1992 12:28:22 +1100
Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: werple.apana.org.au

j.cook@primerd.prime.com (C. James Cook) writes:

>markd@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Delany) writes:


>PLP produced better code than SPL.  However, the PLP compiler has bugs and
>suffers maintainability problems (remember: these products are not supported
>for customer use). PLP also suffers from symbol table limits.  SPL is much 
>more maintainable, has an essentially unlimited symbol table, and has had a
>lot of work in the optimizer and code generator.  (Some day I have to run
>one last code size comparison).

I vaguely recall that at one stage (and for reasons I don't know) that
SPL could not be used for ring0 code.

>> On a tangent, you may want to see the old discussions re 64-bit
>> addressing in comp.arch, one suggestion was that every data bit in the
>> universe would be potentially visible in one huge address space! The
>> mind boggles really.

>If you are a 50-series instruction set guru, you will notice the three word
>pointer format first defined with the P400 in the 70's has the capability to 
>address down to the bit level.

I'm not, but I remember. Practically, I think the subsequent
overloading of this extension bit as a character address for IX was a
better choice since prior to this there was no real character
addressing available.

But I agree that bit addressing is certainly convenient in something
that happens a lot these days, eg bitmap manipulation.


--
Mark Delany                                          markd@werple.apana.org.au


Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: 0005507197@mcimail.com (Lee Leitner)
Subject: Novell to buy USL
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:26:00 GMT

In the New York Times this am:

Novell to buy AT&T's Unix System Laboratories for $350m [the motherlode of Unix
System V].

"Industry executives and analysts said that the decision to put the Unix
operating system under the control of a single independent software publisher
set the stage for a direct confrontation with Microsoft.

"The sale of USL marks the second stage of AT&T's decision to gradually
relinquish control over the operating system program that has served as the
d8battlegroud for many of the battles for the control of the direction of the
computer industry since the mid-80's. [Novell has been a shareholder in USL
since AT&T sold a minority share in USL in 91].

The article reports that the h/w & s/w value of the Unix worldwide market in 91
as $17 billion or about 11.6 of the market for com-l
cial systems [source:
A+IDC].

Should be an interesting future for Unix.... but will it still be "open"??


Lee Leitner
leitnerl@mcimail.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: R.KITTREDGE@md-b.prime.com
Subject: Sequoia Computeer Update
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:56:23 GMT


Date  Name                 Volume    Hi/Ask   Low/Bid     Last  Change Update
----  ----------------     ------    ------   -------   ------  ------ ------    ----
12/15 SEQUOIA SYS INC       2850      2.500     2.313    2.344  -0.031   3:56*
12/18 SEQUOIA SYS INC        305      1.875     1.750    1.750  -0.125  10:58
12/22 SEQUOIA SYS INC          0      1.750     1.625    1.625  -0.125   8:20
=============================================================================

 1 RTf  12/15 1029  Sequoia Systems <SEQSE.O> gets new CEO

    MARLBOROUGH, Mass., Dec 15, Reuter - Sequoia Systems Inc  said Cornelius P.
    McMullan was promoted to president and chief executive officer, effective
    immediately.
    McMullan joined the company in November as vice president of worldwide
    sales and strategic accounts.
    The position had previously been filled on an interim basis.

    Note: If you remember, McMullan was the President and GM of the Computer
          Systems Business Unit of Prime Computer, Inc. and the only employee
          of COPM, the company that tried to buy PI/open.
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RTf  12/21 0952  Sequoia Systems<SEQSE.O>explores financing options

    MARLBOROUGH, Mass., Dec 21, Reuter - Sequoia Systems Inc said that the
financial advisor Broadview Associates LP has been retained to advise the
company in connection with its pursuit of a sale of all or part of Sequoia.
    Under the terms of the agreement, Sequoia said Broadview will contact
potential acquirers to ascertain their interest in investing in, or acquiring
Sequoia, participate in negotiations on behalf of Sequoia, and make
recommendations for possible transactions with potential investors.
    It said financing for Sequoia is necessary because of reduced revenues and
operating losses during the past two quarters, and its default under its bank
credit arrangement and liquidity difficulties.
 REUTER
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: jasonp@bungie.prime.com (Jason Pascucci)
Subject: Re: X Windows on 50-Series
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:48:32 GMT

In article <1h9e2jINNkht@werple.apana.org.au>, markd@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Delany) writes:
|> jasonp@bungie.prime.com (Jason Pascucci) writes:
|> But I don't think anyone seriously argues that a segmented model is
|> more convenient for the programmer than flat address space (how the
|> H/W provides this along with memory protection etc, is its business).

You don't see me arguing, either. However, a segmented memory model 
isn't that hard on a programmer, compared to some other design 
atrocities that have existed...you just have to keep it in mind
at times. 

|> On a tangent, you may want to see the old discussions re 64-bit
|> addressing in comp.arch, one suggestion was that every data bit in the
|> universe would be potentially visible in one huge address space! The
|> mind boggles really.

Yup, but I believe it was decided you need a little more than 64 bits.
I think I posted my suggestion of 128 bit addressing, using a few
bits (16?) for tag. (First, you stick your IP address on the top...:)

|> Something I've always wanted to know is why the port of Unix to
|> 50-series was canned (and I don't mean PRIMIX, I mean the genuine
|> article). Now what was that project called? Here are my three guesses:
|> performance, politics and (you guessed it) segmentation.

Given these three issues, why should Unix ever have made it
to the Intel architecture? I think the problems were a little
more deeply rooted technically, although I'm sure it was very
political. The DTAR setup and Ring protection scheme
seem to me the more likely to be the last nails in the coffin. 

|> --
|> Mark Delany                                          markd@werple.apana.org.au

--
Jason R. Pascucci
jasonp@primerd.prime.com
Disclaimer: My above opinions do not necessarily reflect CV policy.
From: markd@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Delany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: X Windows on 50-Series
Date: 26 Dec 1992 12:34:55 +1100
Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: werple.apana.org.au

jasonp@bungie.prime.com (Jason Pascucci) writes:


>|> On a tangent, you may want to see the old discussions re 64-bit
>|> addressing in comp.arch, one suggestion was that every data bit in the
>|> universe would be potentially visible in one huge address space! The
>|> mind boggles really.

>Yup, but I believe it was decided you need a little more than 64 bits.
>I think I posted my suggestion of 128 bit addressing, using a few
>bits (16?) for tag. (First, you stick your IP address on the top...:)

Exactly.

>|> Something I've always wanted to know is why the port of Unix to
>|> 50-series was canned (and I don't mean PRIMIX, I mean the genuine
>|> article). Now what was that project called? Here are my three guesses:
>|> performance, politics and (you guessed it) segmentation.

>Given these three issues, why should Unix ever have made it
>to the Intel architecture?

Well, I won't speak to politics and performance, but the 386 provides
flat addressing. The 286 did not which is while all unixes on it were
fundamentally stuffed (that's techo talk for functionally limited :-)


> I think the problems were a little
>more deeply rooted technically, although I'm sure it was very
>political. The DTAR setup and Ring protection scheme
>seem to me the more likely to be the last nails in the coffin. 

Yes, good points. I don't recall DTARs well enough, but rings could be
largely ignored, just as they are/were in Primos (now rings, there's
an interesting side-track don't the annuls of history...)



--
Mark Delany                                          markd@werple.apana.org.au


Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 508-620-2800 x4666)
Subject: Re: Prime / Dr. Who Ads
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:04:12 GMT

Tony,

I have video tape of the five Dr Who TV spots that were done in Australia.
Are you interested in it.

Roland

--- Your original message :

Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 00:12:04 -0800
From: Tony Abo <tabo@hitech.com>
To:   Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Subject: Prime / Dr. Who Ads
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

I'm looking for photos, cards, posters etc. from the
Australian Prime ads featuring Tom Baker as Dr. Who.  Is any of
that stuff still around?  Years ago it used to be all over the
Australian branch offices.

If anyone knows where to find the stuff, or better still if
someone can just send some to me I'd appreciate it very much.

Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------

Tony Abo
Hitech Systems, Inc.
1964 Westwood Blvd. # 435
Los Angeles, CA 90025

Internet: tabo@hitech.com
Voice:    (310) 475 3210
Fax:      (310) 474 0655

     "A good Yontiff to all and to all a good night."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: R.KITTREDGE@md-b.prime.com
Subject: Changes Announced in European Organization
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:39:06 GMT

Subject: Changes in Europe/Middle East/Africa Org.
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:11:11 EST

        CHANGES ANNOUNCED IN EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST/AFRICA ORGANIZATION

Bedford, Mass., December 23, 1992 -- Michael H. Forster, President and
General Manager of Computervision's Europe/Middle East/Africa organization
headquartered in Munich, Germany, will be leaving the company having
completed his assignment there.  Mr. Forster joined the company in 1988 as
President of the General Markets Division.  Subsequently, he was General
Manager of the Americas Business Unit and the International Business Unit
prior to his current assignment.

Forster originally undertook a two-year assignment to implement
Computervision's software and services strategies in the International
Business Unit and agreed to extend his assignment to complete the process,
which included the formation of expanded alternate sales channels, the
forming of a separate hardware organization, and the establishment of pan-
European industry-focused businesses.

"Mike did an outstanding job in building an excellent organization and
implementing our strategy to create four geographic regions consisting of
Northern Europe, France, Central Europe and Southern Europe,"
Computervision President and Chief Executive Officer John J. Shields said.
"Together, these regions represent more than two-thirds of our product
business.

"This new European organization will accommodate the streamlined
management structure our strategy requires.  We are most grateful to Mike
for his willingness to take on and complete this assignment and take a
leadership role in implementing our strategies.  From a personal
standpoint, it is time for Mike to return to the United States and we wish
him the utmost success in his future endeavors."

Shields will assume responsibilities for the new organization.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: tabo@hitech.com (Tony Abo)
Subject: Prime / Dr. Who Ads
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 08:12:04 GMT

I'm looking for photos, cards, posters etc. from the 
Australian Prime ads featuring Tom Baker as Dr. Who.  Is any of
that stuff still around?  Years ago it used to be all over the
Australian branch offices.

If anyone knows where to find the stuff, or better still if
someone can just send some to me I'd appreciate it very much. 

Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------

Tony Abo
Hitech Systems, Inc.
1964 Westwood Blvd. # 435
Los Angeles, CA 90025

Internet: tabo@hitech.com
Voice:    (310) 475 3210
Fax:      (310) 474 0655

     "A good Yontiff to all and to all a good night."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: MNADEAU@novl1.ci.cuslm.ca (Michel N. Nadeau)
Subject: Registrar office system. -Syst
Reply-To: mnadeau@cuslm.ca
Organization: Centre univ. Saint-Louis-Maillet
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:54:44 GMT

   I'm looking for somebody who has developped a Registrar System that
works on the PI/open or the Prime Information Database and uses
Simple Screens. We're presently looking at integrating the academic
to the financial system. So, before reinventing the wheel, we would
like to know what's out there.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com (Ed Trumbull)
Subject: Re: Novell to buy USL
Originator: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:40:06 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <00921222152600.0005507197NA3EM@mcimail.com>, 0005507197@mcimail.com (Lee Leitner) writes:
|> Should be an interesting future for Unix.... but will it still be "open"??

   Well, that's its destiny...
-- 
Ed Trumbull <trumbull@sas.com>  SAS Institute, Inc.  Cary NC  USA
Nothing is so firmly believed as what is least known.
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Holiday NeXT Sale!!
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:49:06 GMT
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft

In article <1992Dec28.093646.5194@crl.com> smg@orb.com (Samuel M.  
Goldberger) writes:
> This likewise seems to me to be an excellent suggestion.
> However, I can't find   any biz.next groups at all at my site
> (which is a major USENET relay). I'd be   delighted to start
> one, and invite the participation of the entire
> developer   community. I think it would be both
> informative and exciting. How does one do   this? 

You should read a document titled "How to Create a New
Usenet Newsgroup" which is posted every 4-6 weeks in
news.announce.newusers, news.groups, news.admin,
news.announce.newgroups, and news.answers. You might
also want to look at the charters for some existing biz.*
groups and watch how they run for a period of time to see if
you think it is something that would work for the NeXT
community. 

I'm guessing that there would be a good deal of support for
the new group and that it would be a relatively "easy" vote
to run.

OTOH, I feel that c.s.n.a is working quite well for 90% of
what a new biz.* group would be used for.

Gordon   
-- 
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Gordon Van Huizen           vox: 619.488.9411  fax: 619.488.3045
Metrosoft                   gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
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From: an602@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James M. Bernatowicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Is ANYBODY Selling Anything? (was Re: Holiday NeXT Sale!!)
Date: 2 Jan 1993 20:57:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an602@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James M. Bernatowicz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I thought this issue was resolved last week with the "discovery" of the biz.*
groups?  I fail to see how placing a commercial post in a seperate newsgroup
is going to destroy "our sense of community" or NeXT's market for that matter.
What does this say about NeXT users?  Are we so lazy that we will not peruse
seperate groups to seek out great deals?  Let's get back to buying and selling,
OK?

Jim Bernatowicz
-- 
-------------------------------------.------------------------------------
jbernat@zip.eecs.umich.edu     -or-  |            Jim Bernatowicz
jbernat@caen.engin.umich.edu   -or-  |         Graduate student, CSE
an602@cleveland.freenet.edu          |       The University of Michigan
From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Holiday NeXT Sale!!
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:19:21 GMT
Organization: HNSX Supercomputers

In article <1hprfnINNgnk@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:

>captain (Jobs) comes to his senses and allows other hardware to run the stuff.  
I know that this is not in keeping with the thread, but I thought that 
NeXT Step was being released for the Intel 486 machines.

-- 
Ellison Chan, Comp. Sys. Analyst               2350 Place TransCanadienne
HNSX Supercomputers Inc., NEC Corp.        Dorval, Quebec, Canada H9P 2X5
E-mail: ellison@SX.Mont.NEC.COM          (514)684-7705, FAX (514)684-8619
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: Holiday NeXT Sale!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:12:22 GMT

To:
Samuel M. Goldberger    smg@orb.com--NeXT Mail OK
Spherical Solutions,    47 Myrtle Avenue, Mill Valley, CA  94941
415.383.7512--voice     415.381.9556--fax

You must know that commercial posting is not permitted, yet here you are.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Re: Holiday NeXT Sale!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:56:38 GMT

jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch) writes:

>>To:
>>Samuel M. Goldberger    smg@orb.com--NeXT Mail OK
>>Spherical Solutions,    47 Myrtle Avenue, Mill Valley, CA  94941
>>415.383.7512--voice     415.381.9556--fax

>>You must know that commercial posting is not permitted, yet here you are.

I am reminded of a play I directed at a small theater a few years back.
It was written by Tennessee Williams. Some upstanding citizen wrote to
the board of directors after seeing it, wanting my hide on his wall for
bringing such filth into the community. They wrote back:

"If you don't know enough to stay away from a Williams play if you're
likely to be offended by one, then please stay away from our theater
in general."

A similar statement might be made to people who read newsgroups with
the word "marketplace" in their titles.

Love and Ki$$es,

Steve abell@netcom.com

P.S. It was a damn good play.