HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
Subject: Re: ugly rumour bashing
Organization: NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:46:47 GMT

>> = prr40@pswd.amdahl.com (Phil Roseberry) writes:
>  = gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) writes:

>>  Wow, the net.thought.police are out again. I guess it's only
>>safe to post "Jerry is God", huh?
>>[...]

>[...]
>            Broadcasting derogatory rumors about a band member's personal
>life over the Net is hurtful (though in all fairness this was probably not
>the poster's intent).
>[...]

Hypothetical situation: suppose one or more net-heads are genuinely concerned.  
They realize that it is an unsubstantiated rumor, BUT they also realize that 
drug problems and deaths are not exactly far-fetched ideas AND that if 
the rumors are true no one would admit it anyway.  Is there any way at all 
that these genuinely concerned people could even mention their concern without
being accused of "broadcasting hurtful derogatory rumors about a band member's 
personal life"?  ie. is the best/only option "polite" silence?

Also, given the life the boyz have chosen, can they really expect 
the fans they've cultivated to be indifferent to whether they live or die 
(or leave or stay)?

Just curious.

-Brian
From: korwandr@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (DAVE ROPER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: test
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:17:00 GMT

Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40
From: v093p7m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (TONY BROWN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: rumors, etc...
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:35:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr15.203629.16220
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.123507.8819@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, dougg@fnma.com writes...
> 
>|Anybody know about GD's willingness to return to Alpine?  I had heard it was
>|the band's decision not to return there.
> 
>The RUMOR  (Jerry is God! there, my disclaimer) I heard last year was that 
>Jerry couldn't do any high altitude shows anymore due to his smoking and 
>related lung problems.

  Yeah but the FACT is Alpine Valley isn't very "high" altitude.  I'd be
surprised if East Troy is even at an elevation of 1000ft. above sea level.
Anyway didn't Jerry play at the top of a ski area in California last summer?
That would be considered high altitude.

Tony
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Brian.Jarvinen@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Allmans Tour Dates
Reply-To: Brian.Jarvinen@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:36:49 GMT

Does anyone out there reading this have a list of tour dates for the
Allman Brothers?
 
I do know that they are playing Pine Knob in Michigan on June 21st,
unfortunately I will be en route from DC to Pittsburgh that day
via many backroads. 
 
If you know of an Allman Brothers concert anywhere in the country,
send me a message with the date and the venue and I'll post a complete
list in a few days...
 
P.S. I figured out how to selectively skim this group using my UNIX
account so I still read a few articles when I have the time...........
From: sharono@brahms.udel.edu (Sharon Orlowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: tape request
Keywords: tape
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:30:20 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Does anyone have a tape of the 3/18/92 Spectrum (Philly) show I can
have?
I want the Wednesday show -- I think I have the date right.  Anyhow,
I'll provide tapes and postage.  I have a little bit if you want to 
trade, not much though.   Please email sharono@brahms.udel.edu if you
can help.  Thanks!      

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From: mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto)
Subject: Re: (trivial) Dead sighting
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:27:51 GMT

In article <kdvMD570Bwxf8Hf90m@transarc.com> Ward_Travis@TRANSARC.COM writes:
>
>Was lapping through the local super-market yesterday (ever notice how
>no two supermarkets put bread crumbs in any same place? gr) and what
>caught my eye but these bright metallic paper tubes of Ajax Cleanser.
>In a little starbusrty-thing above the product name was the
>endorsement, "Stronger Than Dirt"
>
	Did you ever notice that our friend Jim Morrison plugs Ajax
at the very end of the song, "Touch Me", with the line "Stronger then Dirt."

Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
 
Michael


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From: mep43562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael E Powers)
Subject: Re: Allmans/BT ???(Deer Creek)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:16:25 GMT

The Allman Brothers Band is playing at Deer Creek on Fri. June 19(not June 20, as
I sent out to a few others who wanted to know).  Blues Traveller is opening.
Showtime is 7:30 PM.  Tix are $22.50 apiece plus TM fee, and the price incledes
admission to the Deer Creek Fair(whatever that is).  Sorry I sent out the wrong
info, but I was corrected today.
Hope to see you there,
 
-- 
Mike Powers
University of Illinois
mep43562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
				...you know it's gonna get stranger...
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Ugly Rumor-mongerers
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:46:55 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Apr15.041045.971@ucselx.sdsu.edu> chris@ucselx.sdsu.edu (chris) writes:
>Besides, if we all really cared we'd openly discus the situation and its
>merits instead of sticking our pointed little heads in the sand.

	I hear that Chris Lemaire is shooting smack again.  It's only
a rumor, but because I really care about Chris and I don't want to see
him destroy his life with drugs or go crazy and try to make love to
German Sheperds like I hear he did last time he got really fucked up 
on dope (That's only a rumor too, can anyone confirm it?) I think we 
should have an open discussion about Chris Lemaire's drug problem and
his kinky sexual tastes, just in case they're not just rumors.  Maybe
we can help...

	Pissed off, Chris?  Embarrased?  The point is that even if all
that stuff is true it's a private matter, between you and *maybe* your
family, not you and anyone with a 300 baud modem...  And I would imagine
that privacy is especially important to someone like Jerry, who can't
even have a private walk down the street...

					Sometimes the songs that we
					sing *should be* songs of our own.
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From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Subject: OOPS!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:43:01 GMT

  Mike - mind if I post from your account?  I thought not.  This
Compaq Portable II is nice!

  My sincere apologies for being quite wrong about the ticket deal.
I can be extreemly spiritually arrogant at times- You're right about
that also.  There's always two sides to every river, even the Rio
Grande.
  Coyote isn't bad medicine - it's just so mischevious!  And Lord knows
I like to stir up a little sh*t now and then.  Once upon a time wharfie
took issue with me for posting explicit harvesting instructions here. 
Then a little while later, someone posted the exact location of the
Nat'l Rainbow gathering, which I was willing to give out by email.
Oh my God! I thought.  Any idiot can read this.  No harm came out of
it however, although it was the first time to my knowlege Time magazine
covered a nat'l gathering.
  So about the 21st Nat'l!  South west Colorado with exact location 
to be decided by council in May.  I used to live there so I'm familiar
with the turf.  My mom used to take me out on the reservation and
abandon me when she was depressed.  Then dad showed up a few days latter
and collected me.  But Goddamn!  The things the grandfathers showed me!
                                  eagle
       (Can't catch me if you can't find me!)
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From: The Fat Man Rocks <USER65EF@umichum.bitnet>
Subject: CHORD GROVEL (passenger)
Reply-To: USER65EF@umichum.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:37:34 GMT

hi u all...ive been listining to passenger a lot lately, and been trying
to figure out the chords to no avail...i kno its easy...but being a
relatively new guitarist...my ear just isnt good enuff...so if someone
could help me...???...i would appreciate chords or anything elses!
 gracias!
     dave
          "do you remember/one summer day/that same night/be on your way"
From: lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU (LORANGE HANS P)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: GDH 184 - a grate big thanks
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:22:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsu.1992Apr15.192217.8489
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


I just listened to GDH 184 again and a big thanks are due to David Gans and Dan Healy for a wonderful hour.  The discussion on the mixing techniques for
One From The Vault 2 was great and it sounded tremendous!  

I can hardly wait for the whole thing to finally get to us.

Again, Mahalo guys.  Really enjoyed it.

Hans

"...and it can't slow down..."
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From: "Edward B. Whittemore" <whitte@DPW.COM>
Subject: HELP, DID I Miss the East Coast mailorder
Reply-To: whitte@DPW.COM
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:17:07 GMT

Hey, can someone email me the info about the Giants and Albany dates, seems
I may have missed the mailorder in the early part of this week.  PLEASSSE.

Ted Whittemore

===========================================================================
Ted B. Whittemore  | none of the above opinions |  "Reach for the sun
whitte@dpw.com  or | are mine. I borrowed them  |   Catch hold of the
whitte@dpw.nyu.edu | from others. Sue them,     |          moon,
		   | not me.                    |  They're both too
 GO RANGERS!!!!!   |   and certainly not DPW!   |  heavy,
		   |                            |  But what can you Do?"
		   |                            |  R. Hunter & J. Garcia
===========================================================================
U.S. Mail address to send correspondence/tapes/etc... to:

Ted B. Whittemore, c/o Davis Polk & Wardwell, One Chase Manhattan
Plaza, New York, New York, 10005-1401.   (212) 874-0424  [home #]
===========================================================================
From: maginnis@math.ksu.edu (John Maginnis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: First Shoreline Grovel (sigh...)
Date: 14 Apr 1992 07:43:27 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.math.ksu.edu

lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein) writes:

>Helllloooo Netland!

>I'm looking for an extra reserved seat ticket for Sunday and
>Monday.  I'm not particular about location.  I'd prefer to
>not have to sit on the lawn.  The lawn is just not my cup of
>tea.  

>I now see what you folks on the Right Coast go through to get
>tickets.  This is the worst mail order situation I've ever seen
>for Shoreline.  Many of my friends, like myself, got rejected
>for reserved seats for the first time.  Jeez, you'd think locals
>would get priority...I guess not.

>I'm willing to throw a tape or two into the deal.  I've got lots
>of low generation analog boards and lots of non-GD material.

>And finally...SCALPER SCUM NEED NOT APPLY!

>Thanks in advance

>--larry stein      lstein@adobe.com     (415)962-6632 (work)
>                                        (415)949-4859 (home)

	I think I will have one extra reserved ticket for the Monday
Shoreline concert.  It's a pretty horrible seat, section 202.  Why
don't you wait a week or so, and by then I'll know if its an extra
and you'll know if you have a better offer.  Reach me by email at
maginnis@math.ksu.edu

			John Maginnis
From: dittrich@milton.u.washington.edu (Dave Dittrich)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Bill Graham tape tree: Mike Carvalho and Charlie Murphy branches
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:12:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Sorry for the broadcast message, but I have been unable (after several
attempts over the last two months) to reach either Mike or Charlie.  If
they, or any of their leaves, know how they can be reached please send
me email so I can get in touch with them.

Since they appear to be Lost in Space (ODC :-) I would like to suggest
that someone from each of their branches take the root responsibility for
Mike and Charlie.  I would rather not do this myself (3 x 100 minutes x
N leaves is too many dubs for me right now).

Please reply by email and we can take care of this.  I know that there
are a few of you are still very anxious to get their tapes.
From: meredithd@gtephx.UUCP (Douglas Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: ice cream Dead Sighting
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:13:48 GMT
Organization: gte


Was in an ice cream parlor in Tempe, AZ a week or so ago (don't recall the
name of the place -- it's behind the Coffee Plantation in case any ASU 'heads
are reading this) and they had a flavor they called "Cherry Garcia".

-- 
| Doug Meredith                                                    |
| UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc}!gtephx!meredithd     |
| Inet: gtephx!meredithd@asuvax.eas.asu.edu                        |
| AG Communication Systems (Formerly GTE), Phoenix, AZ             |
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From: John Garrity <T_JGARRITY@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re:  Dead-Flames Digest #763
Reply-To: T_JGARRITY@qualcomm.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:04:54 GMT


Its lunch time now so I have a few minutes to bs. I'll probably want 10 
recycled tapes. Will you be able to make it down tonight?? Read the post from
the guy named Ihor, he's the one I got 4-28-71 from, & he's the guy who wrote
a couple of reviews in Deadbase. I think this thread about rumors is a lot
more interesting than a lot of the other really lame shit theese people 
argue about. Anyway no word from Met. yet...I'll let you know...
-------
From: libapm@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Anne Mosby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: POTHEAD'S MESSAGE TO CLINTON
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:51:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia State University

In article <1456400055@igc.org> bmasel@igc.org (Ben Masel) writes:
>
>IT'S OK, I DIDN'T INHALE
>
We play a team trivia game at a local, politically oriented watering hole
every week.  Teams are usually named after some sort of witty observance 
and/or commentary on current events, and a prize is awarded for the funniest
name each week.  Anyway, this week's winner was:

"Clinton never inhaled, Brown never EXhaled."

well, it seemed funny to me.
From: v093p7m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (TONY BROWN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: New hotline message-summer tour
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.203437.3816@gw.wmich.edu>, x86wester@gw.wmich.edu writes...
>In article <1992Apr12.074936.29878@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay) writes:
>> 
>>>Could someone please post a confirmation of this information?
>> 
>> West Coast Hotline confirms the dates and places listed, but offers no
>> offers no additional information.  As of this posting, East Coast hot
>> hotline rings and ring s s s and ringsssss....
>> :-)
>> FWIW,
>> Eric N
>> -- 
>> Eric Nay  2430 Drexel St., Vienna VA  22180
>> bs810@cleveland.freenet.edu       "Life is Happenin'"
> 
>I'm having the same problem with the East Coast Hotline-anyone else?, or am I
>just doing something wrong all of the sudden?
> 
>***If prunes are dried plums, how do we get prune juice?...Raisins are dried
>grapes and you don't see raisin juice.

Personally, I *never* call either one of these lines.  It seems that the mail
order hotline (415) 457-8457 is always updated first and best.  As for the East
Coast hotline I've never had much success getting relevant and up to date info
from it.  

Tony
From: br01@gte.com (Brian Raila)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: kids and the ban
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:20:47 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

In article <1992Apr8.143523.23416@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> BSNICH01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu writes:

  a long (but understandable) justification for age discrimination
  at public music events.

Reminds me of the other night when I was at a School Committee meeting
at City Hall, and could hardly follow the proceedings, due to selfish
chatter between a 5*-year old and a 3*-year old.

All you have to do is enforce rules of conduct according to behavior,
not according to age.  That's what the ushers are there for.  You should
(justifiably) take your complaint to the ushers/management.

Regards,
Brian
(who takes his kids everywhere, so long as they behave better
than most adults)
-- 
br01@gte.com
GTE Laboratories  40 Sylvan Road     Waltham, MA  02254  617 466-2510
From: pc@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (pc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: another dead hiatus rumor?
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:13:52 GMT
Organization: Patrick J. Connor @ PYRAMID

In article <Apr.12.12.33.50.1992.18275@gandalf.rutgers.edu> burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett) writes:
>
>Now, the rumor *I'm* interested in has to do with another batch of
>new songs.  Anybody hear anything?

From the April 11th Mercury News front page article on Ken Kesey:

" ... [Kesey] promised an impressive rock opera from the Dead based
on "The Sea Lion" (one of Kesey's children's books)...And he hopes
the rock opera will be performed Aug. 23 on an Oregon farm."

Could be interesting. :-)

pc

-- 
      -m---------    Patrick Connor           Pyramid Technology   
    ---mmm-------    (408) 428-8819           3860 North 1st St.
  -----mmmmm-----    pc@pyramid.com -or-      San Jose, CA           
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From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead sighting- Ajax: Stronger Than Dirt
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:11:08 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Apr16.203228.3601@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> PRRICE@miamiu.bitnet writes:
>Wasn't AJAX's slogan "Stronger Than Dirt" 

	yeah, fer shure: The Ajax White Knight would come riding through,
zapping dirty laundry with his lance.  Stronger than Dirt, yup.
From: bjr@wharf.UUCP (Brian Rupert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: GDH - Buckeye 6-9-91
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:34:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: wharf.44NTiB1w164w
Organization: Fisherman's Wharf BBS  (215) 383-7245

Yea, Vic - I've got a pretty good copy of the tape at home...
I know it started with a pretty rockin Minglewood (Those
Buckeye Fillies start lookin' good!) and also Ramble On Rose...
I'll send you the complete set as soon as I find the tape..

bjr
From: x88keon@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Mountains of the Moon live
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:37:15 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I have been searching for a long time for a show where they did
Mtns. of the Moon.
Does anyone know of a show where they played this?
(I've seen a bootleg with Mtns. outtakes, but never a live performance)

--Dylan Keon 
  x88keon@gw.wmich.edu

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From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Subject: NORWIEGEN OLYMPIKS!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:47:53 GMT

  Had a wonderful time in Centenial, Wyoming (population 100),
{twilight zone music}, at 8086'.  This is basically a rights
of  spring thing with nude ski jumping on X-country ski's
among other things.  Then we retired to Murf the Surf's for
Music and dancing.  When we moved the band to the Trading
Post, the crowd followed! (Sound familiar?).  The hardest part  
was keeping your Birkenstocks out from under those Tony Lama
doggin' heels, (Cowboy boot reference).  Solution?  Congas!
I beat my hands to hamburger.
  While on the edge of a shamanic state brought on by the
rythem and dancing, it occured to me that it really doesn't
matter if Jerry's noodles are well cooked or not.  And maybe
the extra energy was from Bruce pushing him.  But it's nice 
to have a medium where you can hear the straight poop from
the horse's mouth, albeit 2nd hand.  Thanks Mark!
  It also occured to me that if word of these gorgeous 
Norwiegen babes, (world class), running around naked in the
snow, would have leaked out via a medium say, like the net,
this may have been more than a regional event, (there's a 
sh*tload of Norwiegens on the CU ski team too!).  And maybe
even more heads would have showed up from all over.
  So here we have this killer communication system.  I thought
about sort of a ComCo '91.  They said it couldn't be done.
One flame said, "What do you expect?  Someone from Xerox to
do all the copying free?"  Well, yeah.  Someone from a copy
machine company offered to do just that.  Then things would
have to be compiled, edited, centrally printed and mailed.
  I'd rather see you guy's do it yourself.  Kind of a Digger
thang. ;-)  We could blast the hot stuff to every show on
this summer tour if someone was willing to print it, make a 
few copies, and pass them on to people willing to make a few
more copies.  And we could use this medium to all sit down
and talk about solving our collective problems.
  Trancendence or Party?  Dionysis is orgiastic enlightenment
isn't it?  If I'm wrong, I'm sure somebody will set me straight.
                       eagle
Goodnight Uncle Bobo, wherever you are!
From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Obnoxious postal workers
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:29:22 GMT
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena

In article <1992Apr6.230546.22383@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> RBLIEBER@amherst.edu writes:
>There is, excuse my language, a real ASSHOLE postal worker at the only post
>office in my town who refuses to hand stamp deadheads' mail orders. Not that
>he would refuse to stamp a non-decorated envelope for a well-dressed business
>person but anyway...
---
	Well, after using please alot and smiling sweetly, you might ask
for their help in referring you to someone who will help you with your
request.  If that doesn't work, ask to see their supervisor.  Simply
explain that while you are sure that the mail gets the proper stamp
99.9% of the time, it is the .1% that you don't want to be the victim
of, and it is real important for you to have it stamped correctly.

-wat-
--
***  Dances with Drums  ***
***    DoD #0492   Steed: Kawasaki '80 750LTD                             ***
:: If pro-choice means choice after conception, does this apply to men too? ::
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From: "K:-Q" <castro@alm.admin.usfca.edu>
Subject: Ugly Rumor
Reply-To: castro@alm.admin.usfca.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:58:42 GMT

Well, i guess i started quite a flame with my little question
about the state of Jerry's health.  Contrary to what some of you seem   
to think, I do think this is a perfectly acceptable topic for discussion.
I am new to this net and I'm sorry if I offened your sensibilities,
but i remember going to shows in the mid-80's that SUCKED, primarily
because Jerry was too wasted to play.  He is a public figure
and my question did not concern something in his private life which
doesn't influence the band and the music (e.g. marital problems,
or income tax problems, etc.)  I am cncerned about the music, and
about Jerry, I've learned that many rumors proved to be true,
and many proved to be false, but the only way to find
out is to ask other peeople.  I thought this was a forum 
for asking questions.

                                    PEACE

                                    jeff
From: charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: InfraRed Max Points
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:43:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: phx.1992Apr8.154340.310
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.


	Just a note - this morning I received a copy InfraRed Roses
	from Maxell as a "Max Points" award.  I think someone had
	posted previously that they requested IR and got their alternate
	instead.  Well, Maxell seems to have figured out where to get
	it now...
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