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From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: new to rush
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:25:45 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

> theirs are sci-fi with lots of synths and still remain GOOD music ?

Well, 2112 is certainly sci-fi.  Good music.  Not a lot of synths, though.

Take care,
Eric


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From: leaver@prg.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Leaver)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:04:58 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK

In article <1992Aug17.185351.19633@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, mmarx@Csli.Stanford.EDU
(Matthew Marx) writes:
>
>
>>In article <1992Aug17.174427.22100@berlioz.nsc.com> ivan@berlioz.nsc.com
>(Ivan Wemple) writes:
>
>>>Geddy, Neil, and Alex are has-beens.  And yes, I've listened
>>>to their recent frivolous wank and drivel thoroughly.
>>>It just don't cut it!
>
>I'm sick of the "oh, this album is really cool. But these albums
>really suck." It seems the in thing to say about any band is:
>"Yeah, I know _____(band name)_______. I really like their old stuff."
>This especially applies to Rush, R.E.M., LedZep.
>

It may be just the `in thing' to say that you really like a band's old stuff.
Or it may really be that a good number of Rush fans do prefer their older
records. Rush changed their sound quite considerably in the early Eighties;
probably a sensible thing to do - I should imagine it would be difficult to
write the same sort of music for twenty years without (a) getting very
bored, and (b) repeating yourself musically.

Given that fairly large change in musical direction, it's not surprising
that a number of those who were fans of the older stuff are not so keen
on the newer albums. Is it?

>>What are you doing in alt.music.rush?
>Good ?.

He's probabably here for the same reason as me - I absolutely *adore*
every album from FBN to PeW. Totally and completely brilliant. Among
the best albums of all time (all IMHO, of course!). However, as
for the rest - p/g I find okay, but the others I don't like. I mean,
I still buy the new albums for old time's sake - I am a Rush fan, after
all. But that doesn't mean I have to like everything they've done.

Similarly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are a good number
of fans of the later albums, say from PoW onwards, who aren't so keen
on the earlier stuff that I like - is there anybody out there who
fits that bill? I'd be interested to know!

>-- 
>Matt Marx: mmarx@csli.stanford.edu                  Lee/Lifeson '92
>The Chinese say that when you die, you will "go to meet Marx." Hmmm.


Andrew Leaver                                     leaver@prg.ox.ac.uk
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From: hhekt@usho90.hou281.chevron.com (H.A.Nguyen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:47:40 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug10.194756.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>	How many of you have ever used a Rush lyric or song to complete
>a school assignment???   
>
>
>Thomas Beaudoin

It's funny that you should ask this, Thomas, but last year at LSU, I wrote
an essay in my language class entitled "Meine Lieblingsrockgruppe".  In it,
I wrote about Rush and used some of the lyrics from "Witch Hunt".  I think
that the professor liked it (he was also a Rush fan).

Hektor
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From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Gotcha
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:10:47 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

> 	I heard that RUSH had one of their European RTB shows broadcast  
> over the radio this past Spring...anybody catch it?...anybody got a copy  
> of it??!  
>	Please email..."maybe I have something to trade!"...
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


> 					Scott Daly



				THE WAY THE BIG WHEEL SPINS!
From: knee@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Chip "Workin' Man")
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:40:14 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


 Did Thomas B. say homework?

I've been a Rush fan for 10 years and, as an adolescent many
years ago, delved into every Rush lyric ever written.  In high
school I would incorporate appropriate quotes in nearly every AP
English paper.  In 10th grade a poetry teacher (who held a PhD)
encouraged me to fill my notebook with lyrics, thoughts, and 
reflections and would subsequently help me analyze them.  
During my undergraduate years at Oregon State U., this tendency 
became useful for English and Music assignments (nothing lower than 
an A).  Finally, for my honors thesis in social psychology I began 
with "Chemistry" from Signals which captured the essence of 3 years   
of research on coordinated movement, nonverbal behavior, and the 
subjective experience of rapport.  Now, as a 2nd year grad in social 
psych at UR, I no longer quote Neil Peart, but I'll always acknowledge
the didactic influence that Neil's lyrics had in nourishing my 
curiosity.  

I'm sure most of you can relate.

-- C. Knee

P.S. This is my first post so be gentle if there is a mishap:)
From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:49:26 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

>       How many of you have ever used a Rush lyric or song to complete
> a school assignment???   

For my poetry project in grade 11 english, my topic was Neil Peart.  ;-)

Take care,
Eric

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From: knightster+@CMU.EDU (Shawn Clayton Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:01:30 GMT
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Organization: Freshman, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>       How many of you have ever used a Rush lyric or song to complete
> a school assignment???   

In 11th grade English (language) Literature I was told to turn in the
lyrics to 5 songs which were especially noteworthy, and analyze them.

I used "Subdivisions", "Tom Sawyer", and "The Big Money" (along with 2
songs by Pink Floyd) ...

I got 120% for my choices and explanation ...

-shawn
From: exudms@exu.ericsson.se (David M. Stapleton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and homework
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: exudms@exu.ericsson.se
Followup-To: alt.music.rush
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 1@vax1.umkc.edu, tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu () writes:
>
>	How many of you have ever used a Rush lyric or song to complete
>a school assignment???   
>
>
>Thomas Beaudoin


I actually used this line in a thesis once. Remember this one?

	"No Change Is Permenant, But Change Is"!

Tom Sawyer, M-P

/Dave

"You Just Don't Get It" NEUROTICA, RTB
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Rush and homework 
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 22:39:04 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

In article <1992Aug10.194756.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

> How many of you have ever used a Rush lyric or song to complete
> a school assignment???   

when I was a senior in high school, the English teacher was very open
to these things (her belief was that literature includes more than just
books).  anyways, for a term paper (gee, what were term papers called in
high school, anyways?) I wrote about the symbolism and structure of
Cygnus X-1 Book 2:  Hemispheres.

it's been a long time, but I seem to recall getting a very good grade.
   --jim

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From: jclarke@bnr.ca (John Clarke)
Subject: Re: non-elevation
Reply-To: jclarke@bnr.ca (John Clarke)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:53:34 GMT

In article <QeYxicK00YV7M3R7Yu@andrew.cmu.edu>, John Michael Santore <jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> > 
|> >	Speaking of VITAL SIGNS, i'm sure everyone's caught the subtle 
|> >coolness of the end of that song, when Geddy sings "everybody's got to 
|> >EVELATE from the norm .."
|> > 
|> I've noticed this a LONG time ago, but I never found any justification
|> for it.  Claiming that Ged 'deviated from the norm' and deliberately
|> misprounced Elevate is a little too far fetched to me.  No one seems to
|> every have anything to say whenever I I bring it up either.  I find it
|> hard to believe its accidental, specially since he says EVELATE live,
|> but I can't find any real valid reason, unless Ged screwed up and
|> accidentally made a spoonerism (Like when you say 'yuck foo' or
|> something like that) like that, and just reproduced it live for
|> consistency.... and why didn't they catch it on the album then.  Well if
|> anyone has a valid reason (preferably confirmed) I would like to hear
|> it.  

Are you kidding?  It's a joke, son.  He's having fun.  Every lyric in 
a Rush song does not need a deep meaning.  There's no underlying conspiracy
to change the English language.  They do this all the time.  Check out
Digital Man, Red Lenses, et al...


John
From: rob@eebbs.isis.org (Rob Mayer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Neil Peart letter
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:28:19 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:

>    After receiving his award for Best Recorded Performance with "Roll the
> Bones" in the Modern Drummer readers' poll, Neil wrote a letter of thanks to
> all who voted for him. I could transcribe it here if anybody wants it.
> 
> Muff :)

Please feel to transcribe it as I am sure I am not the only one
interested in seeing what Neil has to say to his fans/judges.

Rob
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: NMS Renaissance!
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:34:56 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

	The NMS is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



	A modern mag for groupies
	Traveled right to our screens
	It had a need to uncover
	Much talk about new and old fanatics

	Because it was useful, because it had goodness
	Because it wasn't floral, they worshipped its name
	No delusions of grandeur, desire for slumber
	These manic Rush fans who dream of wearing the band's underwear!


	(bass solo)


	 		--loosely adapted from Cinderella Man


Thomas Beaudoin
From: myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: rush & terry brown
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:17:39 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


     Concerning your reference to T. Brown's dperture from Rush, it was
   definitely not his decision.  In "visions" is says Ged and the boys decided    that Terry wasn't cutting anymore as far as musical growth goes, so they 
   canned him.  He's still around though.  Most recently he produced the "Fates
  Warning" disc PARALLELS.
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From: "mike rizzello" <mike.rizzello@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: is ged that old?
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:10:42 EST
Reply-To: "mike rizzello" <mike.rizzello@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


 For those of you who care, yesterday was Hulk Hogan's birthday, which
makes him 39, about two weeks younger than our beloved Geddy Lee.

 What the heck is going on here?  Is Geddy really that old??

 Say it ain't so Joe.  Next thing you know there really isn't a Santa
Claus.
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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: alt.percussion?
Keywords: drums
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:36:23 GMT

dcseward@athena.mit.edu (DeWitt C. Seward IV) writes:

>Hey, net world.  I have a simple question.  There is a news group for
>guitar and bass.  There are also ftp sites which have lyrics (i.e. for
>singers).  Being a drummer, I feel left out.  Why aren't there any
>percussion newsgroups?  Does nobody on the net play drums besides me?

Send email to boarjas@elof.iit.edu requesting that you want to be on the
drummers' mailing list.

Muff :)
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From: exudms@exu.ericsson.se (David M. Stapleton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: New Rush/Old Rush
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:54:14 GMT
Reply-To: exudms@exu.ericsson.se
Followup-To: alt.music.rush
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


I agree that the latest releases of Rush do not have the same impact as the late 70's and early 80's. I've been a fan since 76' (yea, that's the spirit!) and have seen the evolution of there music. Each album has it's own character in music and in thought.
Remember Carress of Steel? It was very different from F-B-N. Very,very different from 2112. 
Now I must admit that PRESTO and R-T-B   sound a little poppish to me. But in the past every Rush album grows on me and I can't dislike their work. (the lyrics are fantastiC)

On PRESTO and R-T-B, even H-Y-F, it seems the boys are wheeling through their music kind of sleeping, not really punching you in the Cortex or knocking your socks off as they have musically. I often wondered what "The Pass" would sound like if it was the old Rush dishing it out! Man that would be damn good!

But...as testemony, I caught the PRE$TO tour in Dallas!  Ok, I think that they play louder nowadays. Increadable that three guys can produce the music they do (sounds like there are at least six of them). After they played some of the latest Rush era music along with some of the older,more popular songs they played...XANADU...and a good one, man it brought a rush to my spine and a tear to my eye. I observed some of the kids around me and they were just standing there with their mouths open like they didn't

 know what was going on. Different generation I guess.
 
I admire Rush's musical effort and hope they keep going. Though I wish that they would wake up a bit, I'm "opto-mystic"  for their future releases. 

/Dave

"You Just Don't Get It" NEUROTICA, R-T-B
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: angelrat@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (RaT)
Subject: new to rush
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:19:07 GMT


regarding my previous post..which albums are more 'story-oriented'..too 
thanx
for
your
time

Rat
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From: jtbell@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jonathan T. Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: alt.percussion?
Keywords: drums
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:10:10 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug14.005501.9697@athena.mit.edu> dcseward@athena.mit.edu (DeWitt C. Seward IV) writes:

>Hey, net world.  I have a simple question.  There is a news group for
>guitar and bass.  There are also ftp sites which have lyrics (i.e. for
>singers).  Being a drummer, I feel left out.  Why aren't there any
>percussion newsgroups?  Does nobody on the net play drums besides me?

	Yes, I play drums, and I think that that newsgroup would be very cool
to have!!! Whoever can do newsgroups, please pu my vote in to have that 
newsgroup made!

			-Jonny B.
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From: SESPC374@ysub.ysu.edu (Michael J. Walp)
Subject: Fan Club Mailing Address at Last...
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:26:22 GMT

Sorry this is two days late, I got buried under a class project...
       Rush Backstage Club
       1055 East Tropicana, #580
       Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
Send a SASE to the address and they will send you information....
Enjoy...
                                             Mike...
father-time at unix1.cc.ysu.edu
mjwalp at ysumax.macs.ysu.edu
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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Vital Signs on CD
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 07:24:28 GMT

   Most of you have probably noticed this. I just got Moving Pictures on
digital today. (Finally catching up on albums I already have.) The end of
Vital Signs goes on about 2 times through the riff more than the vinyl
version. Cool, 10 more seconds of Rush.

Muff :)
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From: mmarx@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Marx)
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:53:51 GMT



>In article <1992Aug17.174427.22100@berlioz.nsc.com> ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple) writes:
>>If I'm correct, the last Terry Brown - produced Rush album
>>was "Signals".  It makes sense to me that Brown simply said,
>>"this album sucks", and threw in the towel.

Actually, Rush threw in the towel on Terry Brown and went looking for
another producer.

>>There hasn't been a good Rush album since.  It's sad, but
>>true (as Rush used to be the greatest rock band in the world)...

It's sad, but that's false.

>The greatest rock band in the world is currently under discussion.  I think,
>personally, that Van Halen is the greatest rock band in the world.  But you're
>entitled to your opinion.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

>>Geddy, Neil, and Alex are has-beens.  And yes, I've listened
>>to their recent frivolous wank and drivel thoroughly.
>>It just don't cut it!
I'm sick of the "oh, this album is reeeeeealy kool. But theeese album
reeeeeealy sux." It seems the in thing to say about any band is:
"Yeah, I know _____(band name)_______. I really like their old stuff."
This especially applies to Rush, R.E.M., LedZep.




>What are you doing in alt.music.rush?
Good ?.







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The Chinese say that when you die, you will "go to meet Marx." Hmmm.
From: "frank covello" <frank.covello@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: rush & terry brown
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:22:55 EST
Reply-To: "frank covello" <frank.covello@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

In article <1992Aug17.174427.22100#berlioz.nsc.com> ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple)  writes:

IW>If I'm correct, the last Terry Brown - produced Rush album
IW>was "Signals".  It makes sense to me that Brown simply said,
IW>"this album sucks", and threw in the towel.
IW>There hasn't been a good Rush album since.  It's sad, but
IW>true (as Rush used to be the greatest rock band in the world)...

IW>Geddy, Neil, and Alex are has-beens.  And yes, I've listened
IW>to their recent frivolous wank and drivel thoroughly.
IW>It just don't cut it!

IW>Ivan

In recent weeks several people have denounced Rush, saying their
latest albums suck.  Compared to their earlier works one could
argue that a decline in musical power has occurred, lyrically
though the band is stronger than ever.  The point, however, is 
that in changing Rush continues to challenge its fans, other bands
have several successful albums and then attempt to hold on to the
success by endless and mindless repetion of the same themes.  I for
one am gald that Rush continues to change and respond to the constant
changes of modern life.  As for those who would denounce Rush, would
you suggest other bands, currently active, that have something meaningful
to say, other than songs about "...chics, cars and drugs...".

flames to: frank.covello@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:51:36 -0400 
From: John Michael Santore <jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: non-elevation
	<1992Aug18.105443.1@vax1.umkc.edu>

> 
>	Speaking of VITAL SIGNS, i'm sure everyone's caught the subtle 
>coolness of the end of that song, when Geddy sings "everybody's got to 
>EVELATE from the norm .."
> 
>Thomas Beaudoin
>History Teacher
>Lee's Summit High School
 
I've noticed this a LONG time ago, but I never found any justification
for it.  Claiming that Ged 'deviated from the norm' and deliberately
misprounced Elevate is a little too far fetched to me.  No one seems to
every have anything to say whenever I I bring it up either.  I find it
hard to believe its accidental, specially since he says EVELATE live,
but I can't find any real valid reason, unless Ged screwed up and
accidentally made a spoonerism (Like when you say 'yuck foo' or
something like that) like that, and just reproduced it live for
consistency.... and why didn't they catch it on the album then.  Well if
anyone has a valid reason (preferably confirmed) I would like to hear
it.  

                        Evelatin' from the norm-
                                    John Santore

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"We break the surface tension with our wild kinetic dreams" 
			-Rush, Grand Designs

Rush--Yes--Marillion--King Crimson--Emerson, Lake and Palmer
John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu)
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From: greenj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GREEN JOHN CRAIG)
Subject: Terry Brown flamebait
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:13:33 GMT

Speaking of Terry Brown, I just noticed that he produced IQ's 1989 release,
_Are You Sitting Comfortably?_ . Does anyone know of anything else he has
done recently? Oh, and by the way Ivan, it was Rush's decision to "boot"
Broon. If you're going to post flamebait, at least get it right.

John

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