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From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Re: MacTCP Hosts file (was Re: Marketeers)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:16:48 GMT

Herb, you should not have posted this as a followup; you are lucky
anyone saw it.

martinher@urvax.urich.edu writes:

>host. A 128.128.128.1    ; A commnet for the host 'host' number 128.128.128.1

Well, this is certainly wrong. This would mean that "host" is a root
domain name, which can't be true. You must have the fully qualified
domain name on every line; the only way the above line will work is if
you actually give "host." as the hostname to a program. I get a feeling
I see what you are trying to do....

>mymachine. CNAME host ; alias 'mymachine' for host with canonical name 'host'.

What you really want is:

mymachine.my.default.domain CNAME host.its.real.domain

I take it what you want to do is type "host" when prompted by a
program for some hostname even when that host is outside of you
default domain. What you want to do in this case is make the DNR
think that the host has a canonical name *in your domain*. CNAME's are
basically all that I have in my Hosts file.

pr
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System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
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From: aro@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Ormsby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Bundled MacTCP 1.1.1
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:24:48 GMT
Reply-To: aro@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Ormsby)
Organization: CS Dept, University College of Wales, Aberystwyth

I suspect this subject has already been thrashed to death here, but...
My apologies if that is the case.

I'm wondering if there are any PD applicatons which come with a
bundled MacTCP version 1.1.1.

Until today, when I replaced my IIsi with a IIvx, I had a working
NFS/Share, MacX and Eudora. Now, thanks to the wonders of System 7.1,
none of them work.

Any ideas, anyone?

Please mail. I'll summarise if demand indicates.

Cheers,

Andrew Ormsby, aro@aber.ac.uk
From: da@marlowe.cog.Brown.EDU (David Ascher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: QUESTION: GatorBox & MacTCP Problem
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:42:49
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: David_Ascher@Brown.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: marlowe.cog.brown.edu

I'm posting this for someone else:

 Does anyone have experience of MacTCP, Gator box and multiple zones,
 separated by Appletalk routers, where the MacTCP equiped Mac is in a
 different zone to the Gator box. We have been sucessfully running
 ncsa.telnet (2.2) over a network so configured for some time. Attempts
 to get MacTCP based application up fail on all but the macs that are
 in the same zone as the Gator box. Using dynamic addressing the macs
 pick up an IP number from the Gatorbox - but thats where the rejoicing
 stops. A connection attempt with a number os TCP based applications
 fails.
 
 Please reply by mail
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Ed Cole.
 Silicon Graphics, Chemin des Rochettes 2, 2016 Cortaillod, Switzerland
 ed@neu.sgi.com  (VM# 9083)   Tel. +41 38 43 35 50 Fax. +41 38 43 39 00
 
 
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Or you can let me know, and I'll pass it on.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Subject: Re: StuffIt Expander 3.0 (was Re: HQX files)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:50:06 GMT

sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:

>In article <1992Nov19.204843.4141@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>,
>nrf@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (neal.r.fildes) wrote:
>> this is nice, but it seems that a drag-and-drop un-binhexer will be
>> used even more frequently. will Drop*Unstuff have the reverse capability

>Hmmm.  Why don't you folks have mailers or ftp clients that do this kind of
>thing for you?  I don't know how I'd live without them.

    Sometimes, some harmonically challenged people give us (I shudder to
use the word on the net) disks with BinHexed files on them (don't ask me
why).

						Joe Gurman
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: alex_D._holub@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:18:24 PST
Subject: FTP

Could someone explain to me what I need to FTP?  Do I need special software or
do I just call a certain number and type something.  I'm very mystified by the
whole process and if anyone could shead some  light I'd appreciate it.

For instance let's say I wanted to FTP 'ftp.apple.com.'?  How would I do that?
What software would I get?

Thanks.

alex_d._holub@bmug.org
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From: gregt@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gregory M Ferrar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ARA & 7.1
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:00:07 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: comp
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>> 
>> Yes!  I have ARA & 7.1 and on Friday when I tried to use ARA (for the first
>> time since upgrading to 7.1) it screwed up my machine pretty badly (had to
>> reinstall my system software).  It used to work fine, and I don't think
>> I've changed much since the last time I successfully used it except my
>> system software and my MacTCP.  Scott, were you trying to do MacTCP stuff
>> at all?
>> 
>
>I have ARA w/7.1 on 2 Mac's....Office System IIfx/7.1/MacTCP 1.1.1/
>Global Village Teleport/Gold....I dial in with a PB170/7.1/MacTCP 1.1.1/
>PowerPort/Gold, I also get full IP service using a Gbox as IP Server...
>I have had no problems. If you did not reinstall ARA after you upgraded
>that is your problem.......

I too have successfully been using 7.1 with ARA/TCP.  I didn't have to
reinstall ARA after upgrade-- it just worked like it always had.  But
reinstalling couldn't hurt....

  -Greg Ferrar (gregt@function.mps.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: truher@netcom.com (Joel Burke Truher)
Subject: X Window System ARA Server?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:41:14 GMT


Is there an X program which acts as a display server for
ARA?  Is there some other pair of local X display server and
remote Mac client?  It seems like this would be a pretty
straightforward (if little-used) program . . .

I guess I'm looking for XcaM (the reverse of MacX), if it
exists.

Joel
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Using Macs as X Terminals
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:06:32 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2


In article <83947@ut-emx.uucp> (comp.sys.mac.comm), xdaa374@ut-emx.uucp (William T. Douglass) writes:
> We will be needing X Servers on the desktop to work with the development
> software coming with our HP 9000 system.  Since we already have Macs on the
> desks of our developers, we'd like to take advantage of our existing
> investment and run an X Windows package on the Macs.
> 
> Our problems are related to performance.  What level of Mac, RAM, and disk
> storage are needed for serious work using X-based development tools?  We
> have a range of Macs from the IIcx to the IIfx, and would like to know if any 
> of these need to be upgraded.

MacX needs at least 2Megs of RAM. MacX has reasonable performance
that I have noticed. It supports many fonts, has good color support,
and has four "screens" (0.0, 0.1, 0.2, 0.3) for the various means
of displaying X (I really like this part of it!).

With Apple's recent price policy changes, you may find that it is
cheaper to put an XTerminal next to every Mac! I think you can get
decent XTerminal's these days for under $900.


tim endres - time@ice.com

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From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Subject: Re: Hyde Park's Macslip
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:27:16 +0000

>Could someone please email me or post to this group the address and
>telephone number of Hyde Park.  Thanks!

The distributor seems to be:

TriSoft/CyberSearch

Address: 1825 East 38 1/2 Street, Suite 202
         Austin, Texas 78722

Phone: (800) 531-5170 (sales)
       (512) 472-0744 (support and info)

Fax:   (512) 473-2122

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From: Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Fetch Question
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:43:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Karim_Remu@magicbb.uucp writes
>    I was
> wondering if Fetch2.1 had a scripting or automation capability. I want  
it to
> automatically grab a file everytime I load the program. Is this  
possible?

Fetch doesn't do that currently, although it's a capability I'd like to  
add at some point.  I would suggest that you take a look at XferIt, a  
shareware Mac ftp client that includes a scripting language.  It's  
available on sumex-aim.stanford.edu in /info-mac/comm and there's a newer  
beta version in /pub on mondo.engin.umich.edu.

Jim Matthews
Dartmouth Software Development
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees & Eudora
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:26:13 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Amanda Walker (amanda@intercon.com) wrote:
: 
: My principle concern is quite capitalistic: I don't want
: to lose business because of Apple's actions.

 Here too.  Msen wins when MacTCP stuff is well understood, ubiquitous,
 and priced such that it doesn't deter people from subscribing to our
 dialup IP services.  That does not necessarily mean "free", but it
 does mean that if you're going to sell it it should be a real product
 without huge horribly goofy prices and without a lot of FUD attached.
 
: Nope, nothing is free.  However, goodwill is an important economic
: factor as well.  If Apple can preserve that goodwill, life should be
: fine.  If they cannot, be sure that others will step in and take a
: crack at it.  I'd actually love to see MacTCP in the retail channel.
: It's the prospect of blocking the current channels that worries me,
: because of its affect on the current customer and developer base.

 What I worry about is two things.  First, if you cripple MacTCP development
 at universities by making ridiculous licensing requirements the flow
 of cool ad hoc clients will just dry up.  I *want* to have students
 hacking away at this stuff, because without that sort of effort it's
 going to be hard to get the sorts of applications that make people 
 sit back and say "geez, i never knew you could do that with the Internet".

 The other thing I worry about is killing of the development of dialup
 stuff for the Mac.  If you look at the MS Windows market you'll see 
 as far as I have been able to tell a real dearth of product for dialup
 TCP/IP networking.  That is in good part because of the real slow development
 of WINSOCK and because products have had high Q1 prices.  On the Mac,
 however, you get things like the combination of MacTCP, Turbogopher
 or Fetch, and a SLIP thing underneath like the Hyde Park stuff that is
 actually quite cool and functional.  Choke off MacTCP and the Powerbook
 as ultimate portable Internet node goes away in favor of the first
 killer Windows portable that manages to put two and two together.

 Me, I don't trust Bill Gates any more than I trust Chairman Sculley,
 but Sculley at least has something worth preserving: there's at least
 20 million people a local phone call away from putting their powerbook
 on the Internet as a first class system.  Don't blow it, Apple, I
 want to hook some of those people up....

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Rick Boebel <boebel@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: X Window System ARA Server? - PlanetX
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-8933]: boxorain.sob.tulane.edu
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X-Xxdate: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:00:08 GMT
Organization: Freeman School of Business
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:00:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.054114.24634@netcom.com> Joel Burke
Truher, truher@netcom.com writes:
>Is there an X program which acts as a display server for
>ARA?  Is there some other pair of local X display server and
>remote Mac client?  It seems like this would be a pretty
>straightforward (if little-used) program . . .

I've been told there is a program called PlanetX that is both a
client/server for the Mac.  However I know nothing about it,
does anyone out there have any info?  Specifically price,
source, and efficacy?      Thanks, Rick Boebel
From: dmt@grenada.ign.island.COM (Darryl Trujillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP license fees
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:37:37 GMT
Organization: Island Graphics, Santa Rosa, California

trimble@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble) writes:

>  Apple has a long history of Networking Robbery, IMHO. Take, for example, the
>  Ether interface for the Quadra. To use it, you have to buy a small plastic
>  co-ax connector for ~$150 from Apple. MacTCP should have been totally 
>  anticipated with the announcement of MacOS 7.1 not being publicly available.

This is a bit inaccurate.  The AUI connector for the Quadra is a bit more
than a "small plastic co-ax connector" and though list is $150, you can
find them for $80 in mail-order ads.  Unix people have been putting up
with ethernet drop connectors for years; I don't know why people got so
excited about the Quadras.
-- 

	- dmt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Norton Chia)
Subject: Re: Fax software that do OCR?
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:43:59 GMT

louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam) writes:

>Is there any fax program that can translate an incoming document (bitmap) 
>to letters that a word processor can understand?

>Louis

You can try FaxManager Plus, can be obtained as part of the FaxSTF (or is 
it FAXstf?  ;-) Alternatively, PSI modem software is essentially the same.
I've tried FaxManager Plus and seems to work well. I do believe there are
others on the market, but the one I tried on an 8MB SE/30 was OK.

Cheers,
Norton Chia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: rgh3595@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.G. Hawbaker)
Subject: Terminal sw (PacerTerm & 5PM)
Originator: rgh3595@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:43:46 GMT

Hello,

    I just got the program, Microphone Pro (with Telnet and Faxstl bundled).
I'm not sure if the program is what I wanted.  The screen redraw is just a tad
slow and only Communication connection manager is supported.  Im curious
about PacerTerm and 5PM, have anyone tried them?  Any comments (like on
redrawing, scripting [i.e. full graphic front end] or anything else?)

	Bob
	rgh3595@ultb.isc.rit.edu

-- 
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				the less of it you have.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bobley@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Brett Bobley)
Subject: Which E-Mail Package?
Summary: Can you help me choose an e-mail package?
Keywords: mail, e-mail, quickmail, microsoft, LAN
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:13:34 GMT

Can anyone out there suggest an e-mail package for the Mac?
Let me describe what we are looking for:

We are a small company with just 4 employees.  We've got a IIci,
an LC, and two Pluses.   The machines are localtalked together
using Phonenet.  At first, we just want to be able to send mail
inside the office.  However, in the future, we'd like to have
gateways to the Internet, MCIMail, Compuserve mail, etc.

The system MUST be user-friendly.  The users are executive types
who are not comms-type people at all.  For example, when we install
the gateways, they MUST be transparent.  In other words, the 
user just uses the same e-mail package to address the mail.  But
behind the scenes, the program will send the mail out to the
Internet or whatever the destination is.  Therefore, we can't have
one e-mail interface for intra-office mail and another for external
mail.

The interface should be really easy to use -- again, the users
won't use it if it is difficult.

I have looked at Microsoft Mail.  They have a nice gateway program 
called "CommGate" which will transparently pass/pickup mail from
MCImail.  The MCI gateway will also send out to Internet.  However,
it seems with MS Mail, you have to pay $300 for the server plus 
another $300 bucks for the 5 user licenses. (Plus more for Commgate,
of course).

Quickmail is only $300 bucks total.  But does it have a transparent
interface for MCImail?  Someone told me it comes with a free
gateway, but it is a separate interface.  Is Commgate or a similar
program available for Quickmail?

What about CC:Mail?  I don't know much about it!
   
Any advice would be appreciated!

thanks,

Brett Bobley
bobley@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: unknown suffix
Keywords: suffix, pvc
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 05:54:12 GMT

In article <17541@pitt.UUCP> jamesc@speedy.cs.pitt.edu writes:
>Question to some knowledgeable netter out there:
>  I have recently acquired (through ftp) a file with a suffix ending of .pvc
>  It appears to be produced by a coding program, but I do not know which one.
>  Does anyone know what program is needed to convert this file back to text
>  or correct binary format? 

I've never heard of it, but I'd bet it was piped through something... ;)

--Jim, curious, too.
From: puetter@pe.chalmers.se (Johan Puetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MacOSI ?
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:07:39 GMT
Reply-To: puetter@pe.chalmers.se
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

Hello world!

Does anyone out there know if any OSI (Open Systems Interconnect)
products are available on the Macintosh platform? I'd like to see
"MacOSI" or something like that...

*All* Mac-OSI related info would be of great interest to me!

Regards
Johan

--
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Sweden. Internet: puetter@pe.chalmers.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: miweber@apollo.davidson.edu
Subject: Zmodem CTB Tool??
Organization: Davidson College, Davidson, NC
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:45:34 GMT
Reply-To: miweber@apollo.davidson.edu
X-Posted-From: apollo.davidson.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Does anyone know anything about the availability/price of a Zmodem
tool for use with such apps as Termy and MacTerminal that use the
CTB?  Much thanks in advance, Email appreciated.

Mike Weber
miweber@apollo.davidson.edu
73467.613compuserve.com
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MTU, more generally (was for SLIP)
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:22:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

John Veizades says...

>MacTCP in general uses the MTU of the local link so for AppleTalk MacTCP
>uses an MTU of 576 which fits in an AppleTalk datagram without
>fragmentation.
>
>For links like SLIP it is the link that tells MacTCP what is the
>appropriate MTU to use.
>
>In MacTCP 1.1.1 the TCP retransmission algorithm has changed to support
>long delay low bandwidth paths like SLIP.


Does this mean that when using a SLIP LAP for MacTCP (such as Hyde
Park's MacSLIP), it is not necessary to specify the MTU since it
will be obtained from the server?

Or, is it necessary to specify (to MacSLIP) the MTU so that it can be
passed onto MacTCP?  (in which case, to obtain the best performance,
you should set it to what your SLIP server handles).

--tony



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: chris@ccs.northeastern.edu (Chris Dunn)
Subject: SLIP Server Question: Can it be done?
Keywords: Slip Sun Server
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:35:48 GMT

   Our College has a terminal server (a "Bridge" box) connected to
a bank of modems and also the network.  It allows any modem session
to connect to any workstation on our network.  It would be nice to
run SLIP on our workstation(s), but all I've read so far explains
how to configure workstations as SLIP servers by connecting the
modem to the workstations serial port.  Is it possible to configure
workstations (using the available public domain software) to serve
SLIP and do so through the network via the terminal server and modem
bank?  Is the terminal server going to complain if the workstation is
talking SLIP through it and the modem bank to a remote host, or will
it not care? (please excuse anthropomorphism)  Also, is it possible
to link the whatever on the workstation to its proper device (now
something other than /dev/ttya)?

   The system manager has already suggested that we could buy a
terminal server that talks slip, but that appears to be further down
the bugetary road.  I'm interested if we can SLIP with what we've got
now.  SUN<=network=>TermServ<=SerialConn=>Modem<=PhoneLine=>Mac

Chris



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: hr@wasp.eng.ufl.edu (Heyward Robinson)
Subject: Appletalk Internet Router?
Reply-To: hr@wasp.eng.ufl.edu (Heyward Robinson)
Organization: U of Florida Engineering Comuputing Services
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 21:57:32 GMT

What is the latest version of the Appletalk Internet Router?  We have
verion 2.0 running on a IIci running system 6.0.8, but it has been
giving us problems lately.  We are thinking of upgrading to system 7,
but a rumor has it that this router will not work with system 7.  We
have an Everex ethernet card with version 2.6 drivers installed.  

Thanks for your help.

-Heyward Robinson