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From: oudejans@neurydice.inria.fr (Jeroen Oudejans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A3000 questions
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:17:21 GMT
Organization: Institut National de Recherche en Informatique et Automatique -- Rocquencourt, France

I am currently in the market for buying an A3000, but i have difficulties 
choosing the right monitor.
My thoughts were going to a Nec3fg or Nec4fg,
but i dont know if they can show all screen modes of the A3000 and 
furthermore what the difference is between a 4fg and 3fg.
Can anyone help me on this ? 

Also, I am interested in the current price of such a system.
I read about a company in Germany called BBM which sells the 
A3000/25/52 + Nec 3fg for about 4700,- DM. 
To my opinion this is cheap. Is this really a good price and 
has anybody any experience with them ? 
Do they sell their A3000's with german keyboards and or roms ?
All information will be highly appreciated.

please e-mail to : oudejans@bora.inria.fr

Thanx a lot in advance,

Jeroen Oudejans ( oudejans@bora.inria.fr )
INRIA Rocquencourt/France - Projet Syntim.
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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Need Help - 50 Hz flickers
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:33:47 GMT

In <ludde.711728371@hemul.nada.kth.se> ludde@hemul.nada.kth.se (Erik Lundevall) writes:
>Put a 72 Hz monitor right next to your 50 Hz monitor and compare them.
>I'm quite sure you will notice the difference, in favour of the 72 Hz monitor.
>I would not use a 50 Hz display for longer periods, unless I'm forced to.
>Luckily, I'm not.

Well, you might not even know it. Flicker is influenced by several things,
one of them is the persistence of the monitor's phosphor. Using 50Hz on
a standard VGA monitor that is made for 70Hz operation will of course
show flicker.

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From: DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 386BB and 2630
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:35:35 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Pat,

Unfortunately, the 4MB on the 2630 is configured in your 8MB of RAM
expansion room. With a 4MB 2630 and the Bridgeboard, you'll only be
able to add 2MB of 16-bit RAM.

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From: colas@bagheera.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:07:19 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

In article <zxmgn01.712006888@mailserv>, zxmgn01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de
(Philipp Knirsch) writes:
|> Sorry to dissagree you in that point, but the Falcon 030 of Atari is
|> NOT vaporware.
|> I have a good friend who knows some Atari-Developers here in Germany, and
|> they work on this machines RIGHT now!

:-)
Don't you think beta testers aren't working on the CBM prototypes right now
too?
(besides lots of people worked on the now stopped atari console jaguar...)
A machine do not exist till it is released.

The Falcon IS vaporware. A prototype on an expo booth doesnt count either :-)

u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
> Anyway the blitter cant be any worse than the one in the Falcon eh!
> I hear its just the one in the STe... and anyone who has seen that
> will know what a joke that is...

the same goes with lots of things in the falcon... Seems to be a gigantic hack.
For sound, you will have 3 ways to do it: liek ST, STe, or new modes...
beside the "multi-tasking" OS is just a joke... just a public domain OS hack
incorporated into the OS (I know I had a ST before)

But, I too think that CBM is WAY (too?) late... I was planning to buy a new
model in january 1992, since rumors then told they were to be sold then :-(

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From: alb@ais.org (Alan Brushaber)
Subject: Re: Supra Fax Modem, The Company And Their Services
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:44:12 GMT



   Funny you should post your complaint. I had a 2400 Modem of theirs
go after just a couple months. I gave up calling (line always busy) and
sent a polite letter with a SASE, phone #'s, Fax #, etc. That was a few
weeks ago - maybe too soon to tell, but what does it take to acknowledge
an inquiry? Why are the lines always busy? They selling bad stuff?
Warranty worthless? Anyone out there from Supra?

  I'll need a new modem - anyone have a recommendation?

Al
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From: tschille@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Thorsten Schiller)
Subject: MMR, GVP and an A500
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:18:17 GMT

Greetings...

I'm on the verge of buying a 25 MHz MMR (w/ mmu and fpu) and was wondering
if anybody out there has a similar setup (A500 w/ 2.04 ROMs and a GVP 
Series II w/ 5 Meg RAM) and could tell me how the setup performs.  Primarily
I'm concerned about compatibility.

I'm also considering getting 512K of static ram for the MMR... is there any
point in doing this without getting additional 32-bit RAM? I'm kind of
concerned that the first large application (ie. my term program) will
suck up most of the static ram (and, in the case of a term program that is
not my favourite scenario ;-) )... 

Lastly, if I DO just get the 512K of static ram, will loading the 2.0 ROMs
into the static ram wield a significant speed increase?

Thanks for any help.

Thorsten Schiller
tschiller@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
From: manfred@edomdo.UUCP (Manfred Dolag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Zorro II/III Prototyping card
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:34:47 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <62825@cup.portal.com> stb@cup.portal.com (Stan Robert Hodge) writes:
>Hey,
>
>	Does anyone know of a company selling ZORRO II/III prototyping cards?
>I have several hardware projects to do and do not want to do them on an IBM.
>Please send address / phone / email address to:
>
>				Stan Hodge
>				stb@cup.portal.com
>
>				Thanks in advance!

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Subject: A1000 2-meg Agnes Hacks???
From: toddo@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Todd Oberly)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 23:25:47 EDT
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

 
Has anybody hacked a 1 or 2 meg Agnes chip into their A1000?  I *know* 
that
it can't be that hard, basically it requires a "Megachip" type setup, but
with an extra half meg on board and a different socket on the bottom to 
plug
into the 1000's rather slender and shapely Agnes socket.  Are there 
standard
plans for the operation available that someone could E-Mail me (alas, I 
don't
have FTP access)?  Moocho thanks in advance!
 
On the same note, (and I'm sure this has been discussed before) why is
DKB's Megachip unit so EXPENSIVE???  For what you get, it should cost $75 
or
less.  Does it have to do with:
 
                1)  The size of the RAM or components necessary to fit 
the
                    board into the small space available in the A2000?
                    SMALLER SIZE = HIGHER COST, perhaps.
 
                2)  DKB has a monopoly on them and can charge whatever 
they
                    bloody well feel like charging!
 
If 2) is the case, why hasn't one of their competitors come out with a
cheaper Agnes board and taught them it's not nice to overcharge people?
 
Just wondering... :)
 
Todd Oberly
 
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From: Quentin_Snow@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Quentin Snow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:51:22 GMT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.17 7/26/92 (Beta)

> to have the software require 2.04 to even run. Current owners of
> systems that want to but cannot upgrade become frustrated and feel
> let down by C= and the program vendors. Prospective machine buyers
> seeing the situation will be wary of buying a system where
> they may not be able to upgrade to the next version of the DOS and
> applications revision.
 
This happens for alot of computer systems, not just commodore.  Look at
IBM -- They have thier new multi-tasking (sort of) dos, but for ANYTHING
AT ALL to work with it (window type applications) you MUST have the
windows version of the program.  At least with the amiga and C='s new
OS2.04, some of the stuff works in both 1.3 and 2.0.
 
I would have to commend Commodore on how they worked on 2.0.  It was one
of the best things they have done since bringing out the Amiga!  You cant
put blame on them for wanted to make thier machine better, and it is
unquestionable that they have succeded with that in 2.04 OS..
 
I still feel that the Amiga is the best machine on the market (for the
price - for $10,000 dollars, I dont know if I would choose an amiga or not
:) but you get the idea.
 
(Dont take this as a FLAME -- its not!)

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From: jyrkis@mits.mdata.fi (Jyrki Saarinen)
Subject: A2000 rev.4 & A2630 & AdIDE
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:45:31 GMT

Hi! I found out that A2630 works in A2000 rev.4 if I remove the 68000 and
switch some jumpers. But does the AdIDE on the 68000-slot work if there
is no 68000? Is there available any Zorro II ATID-interfaces?


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From: Metin_Savignano@turttwo.tynet.sub.org (Metin Savignano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A2000 1Meg Chip Ram
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:54:41 GMT
Organization: TurtleSystems II, Stuttgart FRG

In a message dated Fri 24 Jul 92  7:01, Fuzzy@netcom.com (fuzzy Fox) wrote:

 FF> I'm not terribly squeamish about  squeamish about opening up my
 FF> Amiga,
 FF> since it's a used system.  However, I need some instructions on what
 FF> traces to cut and/or solder on the motherboard in order to bring
 FF> about
 FF> the miracle of 1 Meg Chip Ram.

 FF> My system is an A2000, rev 4.2 motherboard.

For all A2000 rev 4.x:

change jumper J101 to the left position (seen from the front :-)

cut J102 and J500 (unfortunately soldered ones :-( )

This is ok for PAL Amigas, I don't know, if one of these jumpers should not
be cut on NTSC Amigas. There is a jumper that changes the mode, but I don't
know which one. I neither if those mentioned have anything to do with the
PAL/NTSC modes.

Hope it hepled anyway.



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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Palomax Adapter...
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:42:36 GMT

Well, I now have my Palomax ST-506 controller (wow, what a hack job...
wires all over the place :) make my machine look like a real hacker's
techie nightmare...

Well, I have one eight bit adapter... with the RLL card in it...

Have another adapter with a 16 bit slot, and an 8 bit slot wired on
top of that... it's theoretically possible to pop two controllers in
there for 4 drives... but what I'm more interested in... is it even
remotely possible to pop in say... a memory card? 

Thom
From: Don_Grout@telepro.UUCP (Don Grout)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: About to add a SyQuest....
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:13:06 CST
Organization: TelePro Technologies

In a message dated Wed 22 Jul 92 16:14, Smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (michae
wrote:

 S> In two weeks I plan to order a SyQuest removable HD (40megs) from
 S> Compubility.  I know I have to get the external kit (i have no 
 S> power supply handy), but I just want to check a few things before I 
 S> buy...
 S> 1) I have a 500, with a GVP hard drive.  I know the ad in CA says
 S> that it is for a 2000, but it should work with my 500, right?

My setup here is an A500, GVP Impact Series II HD+ (50Meg) and a SyQuest SQ
400 44Meg (actually 42Meg) harddrive.  I got my SyQuest from a place in
Ontario that was selling them for a Mac but the guy said that it would work
with an Amiga and it did.

 S> 2) Does the kit come with the SCSI connection, ie, a wire that will
 S> attach to 
 S> the back of my GVP when the SCSI port is locate?

Darned if I know.  I can't remember if it came with the cable or not but it
probably did as it's externally mounted.  I know that it can with some Mac
disks to set it up but I was able to just use GVP's FaaastPrep to do it.

One word of advice is that you might want to get a couple of cartridges as
you will soon find out that one is not enough and you might as well spend
your money while you've got it. :)

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From: Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com>
Subject: Re: A1000 ECS ?
Originator: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:55:33 GMT

In article <23JUL199223152707@uhphys.phys.uh.edu> stich@uhphys.phys.uh.edu (CHRISTIAN STICH) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.173346.27281@ninja.zso.dec.com>, Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com> writes...
>>In article <21JUL199216040569@uhphys.phys.uh.edu> stich@uhphys.phys.uh.edu (CHRISTIAN STICH) writes:
>>>This seems to indicate that someone at C= was at least planning a Super
>>>(non fat) Agnus for the A1000 (or maybe the A2000A ?) which would still
>>>only address 512 KB of chip mem, but allow the ECS video modes such as
>>>Productivity and Super-Hires.
>> 
>>How can you draw a conclusion like that?  All you can possibly tell from
>>the existing chip numbers is that they started numbering the fat Agnuses
>>at 8370 and went up from there.  Anything beyond that is wild
>>speculation.
>> 
>>>When I tried to order one through the local dealership, they couldn't
>>>find an order number in Commodore's parts catalog, though.
>> 
>>No surprise, the chip doesn't exist!  (What some people will do for
>>entertainment?!?) 
>> 

>What a kind reply!  Maybe you can tell me what type of chip it is and
>why it is listed in the Hardware manual (3rd edition, I lost the 3rd in
>the first posting). I did not say anywhere that it existed, I only
>stated that it, 8368 HR (similar to HR-fat ???), is printed in the
>manual. Please read it yourself. Do you think that this kind of message
>is appropriate, especially "(What some people will do for
>entertainment?!?)" ?

Sorry, I didn't understand that it was actually in the manual (I guess
I'll have to go take a look!)  From your wording, it appeared as though
you thought it should exist merely because of the jump in numbering from
8367 to 8370, and then wanted to know why you couldn't get it.  That
seemed pretty silly to me!  I apologize for being too harsh. ;-) ;-) OK?

So, if it's actually in the manual, and you can't get it, then I don't
know.  It's probably one of those C= mistakes where they were thinking
of producing the chip (when the book was written,) but then changed
their mind later....  Or, possibly (but not likely) it will be released
Real Soon Now!

>					Christian E. Stich

-hans (the grump ;-)


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From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Subject: Re: Tape SCSI medium error (HardFrame/Viper)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:59:05 CDT


In article <1992Jul29.145011.153733@zeus.calpoly.edu>, jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey) writes:

   [all kinds of stuff I said deleted...]

> 
> I recently purchased a Viper150 too.  I got my tapes from MEI.  They have just
> recently started carrying tapes of all sizes.  They sell their DC6150 for
> $16.67 (2-4) or $15.67 (5+).  The tapes have been very reliable for me, and
> their constuction is very sound!
> 
> Give MEI/Micro Center a call at 1-800-634-3478 for a catalog or order.
> 
> There is one other statment I should make here too.  I have no affiliation with
> MEI/Micro Center.  Although I have dealt with many companies all over the world,
> I have never ever had the kind of service that I have received from MEI.  The
> operators aren't just some dumb answering services--these people know their
> product and will extend every possible ounce to help you out!


   Okay,  I should have said "cheapest BRAND NAME tapes...".  I called
 MEI/Micro and asked what the brand name was.  I was told they are under
 contract not to disclose it.  Yes they ARE cheap, BUT, I'm really not
 to happy about trusting my data to a clear label.  To each his own.

> 
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From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  Any chance we wills see an EC040 accel?
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:57:53 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

There are a number of reasons why there are not an 68EC040 boards out there
yet.

1)  The 68EC040 is rather new and the timing on the EC part is different
    than that of the regular part.  For board designs that are tight,
    this can be a problem.

2)  The V37.175 ROM can not handle a 68EC040 CPU.  This is because the
    ROM was finished before the 68EC040 CPU was finalized and some of
    the technical issues are not addressed in the V37.175 ROM.  The
    newer V37.300 and V37.350 ROMs work with the 68LC040 and 68EC040.
    (Note that these are the new ROMs that also added the PCMCIA support
    needed for the A600.  They are currently called 2.05 since they
    are very minor upgrades to the 2.04 ROMs.)

3)  The main reason people tend to buy 68040 CPUs is for the speed it gives
    them.  A major part of this speed is the FPU in the 68040.  It is
    blindingly fast.  The 68EC040 and 68LC040 does not have this FPU.

That all said, I am sure that someone will build an EC040 CPU card.
The CPU is much cheaper and the integer performance is just as good as
the 68040.

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From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Subject: Re: Info on CBM and VXL accel wanted...again..
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:32:47 CDT


In article <1992Jul22.180529.11946@panix.com>, rpowers@panix.com (Richard Powers) writes:
> >  I am looking for an accel for my A2000's.
> >I am not looking at GVP's stuff because: 1) I dont care for their
> >attitude because I've had dealings with them in the past.  2)  A friend of
> >mine bought GVP and has had nothing but problems with it and he has a
> >similar setup to mine.  BUT I WILL entertain GVP slanted suggestions.
> 
> I think your opinion of GVP is off the mark.  I have had no problems with
> my 28Mhz GVP '030 accelerator which I've had for 2 years (?) now.  And I
> bought the thing used!  A friend of mine has had a couple of problems with
> his (same board) but he has had great service from GVP.  He has upgraded
> now to a 33Mhz board.  (He got this before the '040 came out.
>

   Well I have had some *terrible* experiences with them.  I found their
 answers to some of my questions rather elusive.  I understood WHAT they
 were telling me but they said alot without saying anything.  My friends
 GForce'30 board wont downgrade to 68000 mode with out crashing the 
 machine.  GVP's answer, "Well we found that it isn't necessary to use 
 the 68000." THATS AN ANSWER!!!  Thats b*ll*h*t!!  If they are not going
 to support 68k mode then DONT say so on the box!  And for me that 
 example is just the TIP of the iceberg!  When someone asks me about what
 to buy this and what to buy that I DONT say GVP.


    Daniel Baehr

 
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