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From: johnnyb@mack.uit.no (Johnny Bakkevold)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: hotel in cairo?
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:23:39 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway

In article <1992Apr1.104325.1450@aisb.ed.ac.uk> kk@aisb.ed.ac.uk () writes:
>Can anyone recommend a not-wildly-expensive hotel in the Dokki
>district of Cairo? I'm going to a conference at the Egyptian
>International Centre for Agriculture in Nadi El Said Street and, as a
>student, can't afford the expensive conference hotels. I'm travelling
>alone so would like it to be as near as possible. Thanks for any
>information....
>
>kathleen
>
I don't remember the name of this district (1989), but I can recommend
a nice, cheap and safe hotel 10 min walk from the National Museum.
The area is (*was*) stuffed with police at every corner, and I felt
safe as I was walking - even late in the evening.

The name of this hotel is "Lotus" - lies in 3rd or 4th floor, and the
entrance is through an elevator.  (In case of fire there was another
exit).

Mail me for more info - see my .signature-virus... ;-}

Johnny



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Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 08:37:59 CET
From: <TNEDDERH@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hotels in Frankfort-am-Main

Try to avoid a time for travelling to Frankfurt when there is still a fair.
Obviously there are many fairs in this region, so try to contact the local
travel administration and ask for a schedule concerning this. Otherwise you
will not find any low-priced and nearby accomodation. Try also to avoid the
area around the railway station (Hauptbahnhof). There it is very dangerous
(red-light area, prefered by Yugoslavian mafiosis).
Regards
      -Thorsten-
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: asmith@ais.org (Amy Smith)
Subject: DAYTONA BEACH:  Here we come!!!
Organization: UMCC
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:32:11 GMT

Hello travel-buffs!

As you can see, I'll be visiting Daytona Beach, Florida very soon
and I would love any comments, suggestions, ideas anyone has on
restaurants, beaches, hotels, places of interest, etc.... about the
general vicinity.  I know this isn't as exotic as Europe or a Cariabean
cruise but it is all a couple college kids can handle!

Please, make my only vacation for a while exciting!!!

respond to:       asmith@ais.org

Thanks      :)

Xref: sparky rec.travel:5593 rec.travel.air:628
From: konstan@elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu (Joe Konstan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Amtrak & Airline combo
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:42:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.slhfjINNb4f
Organization: Picasso Research Group, UCB Computer Science Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <sl3dfINN9f6@agate.berkeley.edu>, mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU 
(Mitja Baumhackl) writes about Amtrak's Great American Vacations.

I just took advantage of one of their packages (on a much smaller scale)
traveling from San Francisco to Eugene Oregon (nonstop on United) and back to
Richmond, CA by train.  I was originally going to fly up Thursday and back
Friday (I know, no Sat. night, it would have been over $750, but I wasn't
paying and had no reason to stay until Sunday), but decided to try the train
back for fun.  

The package price was much better (about $550 including a deluxe compartment--
a 6ft square room for 1-3 with a private toilet, sink, and shower) based, it
seems, on the fact that they were able to get the United ticket priced at 1/2
of the low-priced round trip.

I'd be very wary of the starting from prices (since they include only a seat,
and that would be neither a pleasant nor an economical way to travel
cross-country).  The package can be a big savings, though, when you can't stay
Saturday night and are traveling relatively locally.

For comparison, the Amtrak ticket alone would have been $325 and the Air
ticket alone would have been about $375.  

Joe Konstan
konstan@cs.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: engelsma@golden.cps.msu.edu (Engelsma Jonathan)
Subject: Re: Contiki
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:09:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.220001.17181@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, idfriedm@hertz.waterloo.edu (id friedman) writes:
|> 
|> I am considering taking one of the Contiki European tours this summer.
|> Have people had positive/negative experiences with them? How about with
|> some of the other tour groups?

Why take a tour?   I would suggest purchasing a Eurail pass and go
on your own.  You can go where you want, and its a lot cheaper than
a tour.   Travel agents here in the U.S. really push these tours.  
They'll tell you if you go on your own you are in for a real culture
shock, will have all kinds of trouble find places to stay etc. but
its all hogwash.   I suppose if you want to see Europe from a bus
window though, take the tour.    

Pick up a copy of Rick Steve's 'Europe Through the Backdoor', read
it, and then decide whether or not you want a tour...

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From: my@laverde.nsc.com (Mike Yip)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: From Minneapolis to Chicago
Keywords: Car, Train, Plane, Minneapolis, USA, Chicago
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:20:57 GMT
Reply-To: my@laverde.nsc.com
Organization: National Semiconductor Corp.

Hello,
	I will have a business trip to Minneapolis in June, and I
would like to visit Chicago on my own time.  Can anyone tell me
what is the best way to get from Minneapolis to Chicago (and back)?
I am looking into either driving myself, flying, or taking Amtrack.
How many hours of drive or train ride will it be?
	What is there to do or to see in Chicago?


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| National Semiconductor Corp	Voice: (408) 721-5148
| 
| Of course, this is my own opinion!
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: schuyler@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Carlton Schuyler)
Subject: COSTA RICA AND ENVIRONS TRAVEL ADVICE
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:56:24 GMT


I'm going to work in Coronado this summer, and may have some extra
time to travel in that area (say, within a few hours' trip by whatever
mode of transport.)

Any suggestion on where to go/what to see??  I'm not much of a
museum-goer, etc; I like to walk around cities, see architecture, i
tak dalee.  Wilderness is also great.

Plus I love wines and beers and all other such vices.

Any and all info will be received with great gratitude!!  Thanks,

-Carl Schuyler.  [schuyler@cis.ohio-state.edu]
From: tlevitan@igc.org (Thomas Levitan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Passage on Cargo Ships
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:46:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: igc.1460300069
Nf-ID: #R:1992Apr2.132228.18912@linus.mitr:1974110626:cdp:1460300069:000:293
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tlevitan    Apr  7 22:46:00 1992


Sheldon
I seem to reacll that the x-USSR had a number of cargo ships running
North Sea to the U.S. and Canada regularly a few years ago.  I also 
recently read a good book about cargo ship travel, although to South
America.  John McPhee's Looking for a Ship.  Sorry I can't offer more.
Tom L.
From: joann@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Request advice for California coast trip
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:03:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Apr9.031214.8753@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> ajw@decoy.uucp (25482-siegel) writes:
>but were also considering taking a side joint to yosemite (or other parks).

It will take you about 6 hours to drive from San Francisco across the
state to Yosemite, but it is well worth the trip. If you want to stay
in the valley, call them now for reservations (it may already be too
late for this summer). The accomodations range from Camp Curry tent
cabins to the Ahwanee (very pricey, old hotel). Another, less crowded,
place to stay in Yosemite is Wawona, which is outside the valley and
near the big trees. Don't have the phone number handy but they're in
area code 209.

If you're going to stay on the Monterey peninsula, try the Asilomar
Conference Center. They also rent rooms to individuals depending on
availability. No tv or phones in the room, but gorgeous grounds almost
on the ocean (there's a 2-lane road and public beach between you and it).
They're in area code 408.

Even though you can drive from San Francisco to Monterey in 2-1/2 - 3
hours, a better idea is to stay in the Monterey area overnight (or a
couple of days) and start down the coast in the morning, the best
scenery is the hundred miles or so just south of Monterey along Hwy. 1.
If you like ostentation, stop for the night in Cambria and visit
Hearst Castle in nearby San Simeon -- the "hideaway" of William
Randolph Hearst which consists of mansions filled with art treasures
from Europe. You probably need reservations for these tours, they are
quite popular. I think the Bass ticket agency carries them. Area code
for the San Simeon area is 805.

LA County Art Museum is excellent, and has some great special shows that
don't always get up here :-(  (Someone once said that if you put all of
San Francisco's art museums together, you'd have one bad museum...
although if you like Asian art, the De Young in Golden Gate Park has
one of the best collections west of Kansas City).

Have a great trip.

*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
Xref: sparky rec.travel:5567 rec.railroad:3529
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.railroad
Subject: How does Amtrak prevent misuse of round-trip tix?
Date: 16 Apr 1992 16:46:26 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

I recently bought a round-trip Amtrak ticket from Boston to
Washington, DC for $128, and found that I was issued two
separate tickets:  a Boston-Washington ticket labeled $98,
and a Washington-Boston ticket labeled $30.

I ended up using only the first ticket, and Amtrak says I can
return the second $30 ticket to them for a refund if I want.
(But I'll probably sell it to someone for $30 instead.)

My question is:  how does Amtrak prevent people from using the
$30 portion and then presenting the $98 portion for a refund?
These are unreserved trains, and the tickets are toally separate
pieces of paper, so the conductor has no way of knowing whether
I've already used the $98 portion when I hand him the $30 return
ticket.

Surely I've missed something here?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Subject: Re: Liguria in Italy
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:08:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <26495@hydra.Helsinki.FI> wikla@cs.Helsinki.FI (Arto Wikla) writes:
>I'm plannig to travel to Liguria in Italy ('Italian Riviera').

Le Cinqueterre -- between Genova and La Spezia.  Absolutely wonderful.
Vernazza, Corniglia, Riomaggiore, Manarola and Monterosso al mare.
-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
From: v999r36x@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Watson Ko)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Questions about Ntl. Parks in USA...
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <ycrj1hc@lynx.unm.edu>, bknight@blackstone.eece.unm.edu (Robert James Knight) writes...
>>>>I'm planning to go to some National Parks in the southwest of the United
>>>>States in summer for 3 weeks (mostly by car, but perhaps also by plane)
>>>>About some parks I have some information (Grand Canyon,Bryce Canyon,
>>>>Zion, Monument Valley,...), about some others not.
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          I don't think it's a national park! Is it, just like the Four Corners,
a private property or a state park? BTW, buy the GOLDEN EAGLE PASSPORT at any
toll booth at the entrance. It is good up to December and good for any 
nat'l park/monument in the USA. 

>>>>What's about the Canyon de Chelly Natl. Monument ?
>>>Never been here.  You'll probably get enough rock stuff in southern utah.
>>Not True. Some people can never get enough of red rock.
>Actually, Canyon de Chelly, while it does contain rocks and such, is
>an archaeological site.  The National Monument was created to preserve
>Anasazi Indian ruins.  The Navajo Indians (Canyon de Chelly is located
>in the middle of the Navajo Reservation) offer jeep tours up the
>canyon to the ruins.
> 

Sorry if this offends anyone, but the Canyon de Chelly Natl. Monument *was*
the dirtiest of the 20-25 Nat'l Parks/Monuments I had been last summer.
Lots of trash were on the roadside, though not in the canyons(I really hope 
that day was the garbage pick-up day in order not to ruin the wonderful canyon
view in my memory).

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Watson Ko                                   v999r36x@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Space, the final parking place!
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From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: B&B's in Maine and Cape Cod that accept children
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:16:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: watson.1992Apr07.221628.34603
Distribution: na
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

I posted this to misc.kids yesterday, meant to cross-post but forgot.
Apologies if you're seeing this again.

We're planning our vacation, and we are thinking of heading up to the
Kennebunkport and Kittery, Maine areas for a few days, and then maybe to
Cape Cod for a few days.  We have 2 children, one is 5 and the other is
just 1. Can someone please recommend nice B&B's in these areas that accept
(or even welcome) children and that aren't too expensive?

Thanks...
-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dgg@llcn2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Gawron)
Subject: Seattle, Washington (Need some info)
Keywords: Seattle, Washington
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 21:47:07 GMT

Dear Folks,

I'll be in Seattle later this month on business.  The workshop I'm attending is
to be held at the Sheraton Seattle Hotel and Towers.  Now here is the rub: the
hotel charges a lot more ($109) than my allowable per diem hotel rate ($79) for
the Seattle area.  I was hoping that someone familiar with this area could
suggest a comfortable/convenient less expensive hotel reasonably close to the
one mentioned above.  I'm assuming that I'll have to drive in each day to
attend the workshop so if traffic is really a mess in the Sheraton's locality
(or Seattle in general), then I'd like to know this before hand.

Now that the boring stuff is out of the way ;-) could someone please fill me in
on those sites I should see while in the Seattle area.  I'm planning to take an
extra day to just mess around.  What I'm looking for are those cool places the
locals go to hang out.  I'd also like to get your input on seafood restaurants
and places to buy smoked salmon.  Hell, let me know about any of your favorite
restaurants!  Please email your responses and I'll post a summary.  Thanks.

Dave Gawron
dgg@llcn2.jhuapl.edu (128.244.69.72)
From: stevens1@evax2.engr.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: British Heritage Pass
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:53:26 GMT
Reply-To: stevens1@evax2.engr.arizona.edu
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona, College of Engineering and Mines, Tucson

The English Heritage Pass is a very good deal, I strongly advise you
to get the family pass.  Entrance fees to the Tower of London
alone are about $40 for a family of your size.  Also, you'll
avoid the lines to buy tickets, and benefit from the exchange
rate(the dollar is falling now, one pound is worth $1.76).

enjoy your trip!
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: Canadian Tax Refund
Keywords: Canada, Tax, Refund, Canadian, USA
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:03:57 GMT

In <122467@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.003531.7646@berlioz.nsc.com> my@berlioz.nsc.com (Mike Yip) writes:
>>	A (long) while back, someone posted information about
>>Canadian Tax refund for visitors but I didn't copy down the info.
>>
>>	Can anyway, tell us which part of the tax can be refund and
>>how to apply for it?  Thanks.

>All of the Federal Goods and Services Tax paid on items taken out of 
>Canada permently by someone who does not live in Canada is refundable.

Actually, the GST tax (7%) on hotel (and I think on meals) is also refundable.  All
hotels should have the forms and should eb able to help you organize
things for your refund.
From: jch6667@cs.rit.edu (Jeanne C Hiesel)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Relief driver needed from WNY to SD
Summary: Need relief driver from WNY to SD
Keywords: relief driver
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:59:36 GMT
Expires: 12 May 92 04:00:00 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY

If someone is interested in traveling to South Dakota the week+
of May 23-31 please email contact information to:

jch6667@cs.rit.edu

Thanks.
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: fly ua or ???
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:21:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: iecc.9204141521.AA09073
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>ALL Canada-US flights are considered domestic flights, therefore all 
>airlines' coupons should be valid for flights CAN/US.

That's just not true.  It is true that most flights from Canada to the U.S.
are precleared at the departure airport so they can be handled as domestic
flights once they get here, but they're still international flights, which
are governed by tedious international treaties just like any other
international flight.

The easiest way to find out if a particular airline will accept a coupon
on a flight to Canada is to pick up the phone and call them, for pete's sake.
There's no need to ask the net.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Subject: Re: Crete - Santorini
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 20:50:36 GMT

rlee@guest.ads.com (Richard Lee) writes:

>In article <13382@suns3.crosfield.co.uk> rxl@crosfield.co.uk (#richard lovelock) writes:

>|  I recently asked for information regarding ferries between Crete and
>|  Santorini, about accomodation on Santorini, and the other islands
>|  close to Santorini that would be worth a visit. [...]  Could I
>|  trouble the world for once again.

>Crete - Santorini is several hours by ferry.  I think there's an
>overnighter and a morning departure most days. (As I've said before,
>trying to get a reliable schedule much in advance is an exercise in
>futility.)  There are quite a few places to stay on Santorini, in Thira
>and elsewhere.

In 1988 we took a ferry from Ayios Nikolaos on Crete to Santorini.  It took
about 4 hours as I recall.  The ferry that day left in the early afternoon.
Note that this was in October and the ferry only ran twice a week during
that time of year.  As a matter of fact, our second day in Crete, we went
in to Iraklion to see about ferry schedules and found that it was either
that day or 4 days later.  We went for that day, raced back to our hotel,
checked out early and raced over to Ayios Nikolaos.  We had been told the
ferry left at 2.  When we got within about 5 miles and it was only 12:50 I
relaxed and backed off the accelerator.  We got there at 1:10 and they
loaded us right on the boat.  Five minutes later the boat sailed, 45
minutes earlier than we had expected.  So much for a reliable schedule even
on the day of departure.

But, we had a great time on Santorini.  Perhaps we'll get back to Crete
someday to see the sites.

John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com
-- 
"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!"

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From: AWD00MEB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Request:  Siteseeing tips in London and Great Britain in gen
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:14:57 GMT
Organization: UNC Charlotte


 
I am going to London and other parts of England, Wales and Scotland
this summer and would greatly appreciate any advice and/or tips on
dining, siteseeing, money rates etc.  Thanks in advace for your help.
Organization: Sophomore, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:39:56 -0400 
From: "Alexander L. Hawkinson" <ah2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Airline ticket: Providence->Pittsburgh

Hi there  ,

	I have a one way ticket on US Air going from Providence, RI to
Pittsburgh, PA on Friday May 15th, leaving Providence at 5:50 pm and
arriving in Pittsburgh ~one hour and fifteen minutes later.  I will sell
the ticket for  $130, but the price may be somewhat negotiable.  Reply
via e-mail to this account.  Thanks for your interest,

	Alexander Hawkinson
	ah2j@andrew.cmu.edu
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Chad
Date: 17 Apr 1992 09:20:26 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Chad
============================================================
Chad - Warning
 April 16, 1992

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to defer all 
non-essential travel to Chad.  Since October, armed clashes between 
opposing military factions and inter-ethnic violence have occurred 
in Ndjamena, the easter part of the country, the central Geura 
Hills, and north of Lake Chad.  These clashes have resulted in the 
killing of innocent civilians, and an increase in looting and 
vehicle theft.  Although the most recent violence is under control, 
and the authorized departure status for the U.S. Embassy has been 
lifted, there is a very real possibility that violence could erupt 
again.

The crime rate in Chad had increased.  Pickpockets and purse 
snatchers are a problem in market and commercial areas.  Vehicle 
thefts increase in times of political instability, as do breaking 
and entering of homes.

Chad's northern provinces bordering Libya constitute a military 
zone, and remain heavily mined.  Travel to these areas is 
prohibited.  Elsewhere in Chad, conditions vary widely from week to 
week.  Travel outside of Ndjamena should be regarded as hazardous, 
and should not be undertaken except with consultation with the U.S. 
Embassy.  Under no circumstances should overland travel be 
undertaken after dark.

All U.S. citizens who are unable to defer travel to Chad are urged 
to register with the U.S. Embassy upon arrival.  The U.S. Embassy is 
located on Avenue Felix Ebouye.  The U.S. Embassy telephone numbers, 
operational 24 hours per day, are 51-62-18 and 51-40-09.

 No. 92-081

This replaces the travel advisory issued on January 17, 1992, and 
advises U.S. citizens to defer all non-essential travel to Chad, and 
of the lifting of authorized departure status for U.S. Embassy 
employees.