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From: sukumar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Suresh)
Subject: H1B1 - Filing Question...
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:02:17 GMT

Hi Folks, 

Currently, my Employer is filing for H1B1 for me. Since, my 
employer has not done this before, I have few questions regarding
I-129 filing procedures (we have got the LCA from Labor Dept) ..

My questions are

a) In page 10 of I-129 Instructions, it says 'In addition to the
   initial evidence for the classification you are requesting, a
   petition requesting a change of status for the alien in the
   U.S must be filed with a copy of the Form I-94, Nonimmigrant
   Arrival/Departure Record, of the employee...'

  - By the way, I am in F1-PT now, Does the above apply to me.
    I heard few months back that, It's not necessary to do the
    above. Please, send me your replies if you have got your H1
    after the new law.


b) In the same page about General Evidence the following is 
   mentionted...
   'Written consultation. Noted Classifications require a written
    consultation with a recognized peer group, union, and/or
    management organization regarding the nature of the work to be
    done and the alien's qualifications before the petition may
    be approved. To Obtain timely adjudication of a petition, you
    should obtain a written advisory opinion from an appropriate 
    peer group, union and/or management organization and submit with
    it with the petition.

    If you file a petition without an advisory opinion, it is 
    advisable for you to send a copy of the petition and all
    supporting documents to the appropriate organization when you
    file the petition with INS, and indicate in the petition which
    organization you sent it to. Explain to the organization that 
    they will be contacted by INS for an advisory opinion. If an
    accepted organization does not issue an advisory opinion within
    a given time period, a decision will be made based upon the
    evidence of record. If you do not know the name of the 
    appropriate organization with which to consult, please indicate
    so on the petition. However, it will require a substantially
    longer period to process a petition filed without the actual
    advisory opinion. '

     - I would really appreciate if anyone can tell what this
       advisory opinion and also the where I can get the advisory
       opinion.


   I would appreciate, any replies.

Thanks,
Suresh Kumar
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( a reply to fundamentalists)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 16:43:29 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug30.134652.16896@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
  <1992Aug30.100629@IASTATE.EDU>
  <1992Aug30.220214.10845@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>

>Actually, I am of the opinion that this controversy can not be resolved
>in court. The only viable alternative is that the Muslim leadership should
>agree to hand over the disputed land to Hindus. A blatant disregard to the
>sentiment of Hindus does not serve national interest and many Bharatiya
>Muslims who realize this are not opposed to the temple construction at
>the disputed site. It is only some opportunist politicians like Shahabuddin
>who are playing with the sentiments of Hindus and Muslims. To further
>clarify my point, I am posting an article by Shri. Girilal Jain, an
>eminent journalist and former editor-in-chief of Times of India. This
>article appeared in the Times of India, August 14, 1992. He has discussed
>various possible scenarios and options for Muslim leadership to get this
>issue resolved once for all.

Tranlated in simple English this says, "We dont give a $#@% whats right
or wrong (in fact). We want it, we will have it, and you will accept that."

Sounds like the local goondas or thugis, not a people who live by the
rule of law. If you dont like by the rule of law, you will live by
the rule of the jungle.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:39:43 GMT

In article <1684EE14D.R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Aug24.205710.14905@colorado.edu>
>paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>
>>
>>In article <1684DE746.R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
>>>In article <l9bd1fINN4av@aludra.usc.edu>
>>>sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <1992Aug21.173245.13865@ugle.unit.no> youhong@solan.unit.no (User) writes:
>>>>>>I will close you by my ices.
>>>>> I will lose you by my dices.
>>>>  I will kill you with my spices.
>>    Hi willki, you with mices ?
>>    No Vepal, that would be sea of crises.
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>.    ~ ~                                                                     .
>>.    o o      signito ergo sum.              paul chemmanoor.                .
>>.     |    i sign therefore i am.            Computer Science department.    .
>>.     =                                      Univ. of Colorado, Boulder.     .
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From:  (Arvind Kalia)
Subject: Looking for Shyam Hari
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 03:18:52 GMT




I am trying to trace two friends with whom I have lost contact - Anand
Kumar Gupta and Shyam Hari. Both are ex Delhi and ex-Physics and in their late
 forties. Anand probably lives in L.A.  and Shyam somewhere in California
 although he was known to be residing in Colorado for many years before
that.
 Does somebody know them and /or have their addresses? Thanks.



   Arvind Kalia                             arvind@info.anu.edu.au
   Hancock Library                          Arvind.Kalia@anu.edu.au
   Australian National University           Phone +61 6 249 3544
   GPO Box 4, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia  Fax   +61 6 249 5526



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dikkala@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravikumar Dikkala)
Subject: Re: Interested in a sexy desi girl
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:42:29 GMT

Mr. Anish Arun Tolia squeaks:
: 
: SHIT!! Where do you buy underwear from?! Shhesh! I wont even
: bother flaming this fellow, (I gave up flaminf for paryushan!)
: 
: Anish

Hey,

	Why are you bothered about Mr Doki's underwear??? Does that
	change the situation for you any bit, or maybe I am wrong.

	I am sorry that you have stopped flaminf[sp.], bad luck. 

	Bye

	Dikkala

	PS: I would prefer if you were more restrained in future, 
	    people like Mr. Doki read this newsgroup too :)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:06:27 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( JAVED and his RELEVANCE FUNDA)

In article <1992Aug26.184823.15465@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>,
indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM says:
>
>>Article 82520 of soc.culture.indian:
>>Subject: Re: RSS   ( also enclosed THE SYLLABI changes article)
>
>
>
>>Since a poster dared me to prove what I was saying, I'm producing the
>>relevant paragraphs from the India Today article on the RSS's role in
>>the educational system in MP.
>
>How can you claim that what is of relevance to you is relevant to others?

Indu :

Please give Javed a break ! I and many netters have seen the lines
in the 15th August issue of India Today. Now why, just to satisfy
your ego, he or any one should go the length of reproducing the entire
article? Given the fact that the quoted lines are in the India Today,
which is an authentic source in itself, do you have any thing to say ?

regards..        Deepak


>
>>The article appeared in the Aug 15,'92 issue of the India Today on page 76
>>and was titled :
>
>>Madhya Pradesh
>  >Injecting Propaganda
>
>>--by N.K.Singh
>>=============================================================================
>=
>>
>>Have you heard of this one? "If 15 karsevaks demolish the Babri Masjid in 300
>>days, how many kar sevaks will it take to demolish the Masjid in 15 days?"
>>
>>....
>>
>>--Javed.
>>
>
>-Indu.
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|  The views expressed above are on my personal basis.                 |
>|  No Group or  Organization   can be held responsible                 |
>|                                ( for those in quest of truth .......)|
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
>
>P.S.:   CAN SOME ONE POST THAT ARTICLE?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: i000@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: RSS ( Ayodhya and Nuke solutions..)
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:17:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.074952.15464@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal
Agrawal) writes:
> In article <1992Aug30.174120@IASTATE.EDU>, jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan)
> 
> |> IMO the issue can be tackled in two ways :
> |> 1. The govt. arbitrates or negotiates a settlement between the two sides.
> |> 2. The "muslim leadership" volunteers to hand over the mosque over to the
> |> 3. The VHP-BJP-RSS combines gives up the claim on the BM and negotiates
> |> 4. The court determines the likelihood of a temple having been demolished

> But the best solution is : NUKE THE GODDAMNED SITE. :-)
:I really wish that it were possible to do that.

              NO WONDER, YOU RESPOND ON THOSE LINES.  
   WHEN ONE HAS NO REASON HE TURNS TO DESTRUCTION,    BABARS  and BABRIs.
   ( by the way does your comment  qualify as a death threat? jest curious)

> regards,
> E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
:--Javed.

-Indu.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  The views expressed above are on my personal basis.                 |
|  No Group or  Organization   can be held responsible                 |
|     NO DEATH THREATS  PLEASE                                         |
|                                ( for those in quest of truth .......)|
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:29342 soc.culture.tamil:1577
From: sivap-m@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Muhunthan Sivapragasam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: SAMSKRITHAM or SANSKRIT
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:18:52 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: sivap-m@pegasus.cs.buffalo.edu


another interesting thing ..

Indians use tamilian to refer to a person with tamil as the mother tongue

SriLankans use tamil ( to refer to the language, as well as a person speaking
tamil )
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.marathi
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:10:14 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

dharam@starbird.WPI.EDU (Dharmendra Khanolkar) writes:


>Hi Guys,

>What happened with regards to the formation of the new newsgroup
>soc.culture.marathi ?

>Dharmendra Khanolkar



The soc.culture.marathi has gone to the GHAT and GHATIS are washing
the soc.culture.marathi.

Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.kerala
From: krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna)
Subject: Alt.culture.karnataka 
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:08:34 GMT


 Most of you have probably know that there is a newsgroup alt.culture.karnataka.

 I would like to know how many of you who wish to subscribe to this newsgroup, 
 but cannot do so are around. Please send me e-mail. We are now trying to 
 transfer the people who cannot access this newsgroup onto the kannada mailing
 list. 

 Sanjay
From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:15:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <92243.023522RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
> 
>   Many postings on the notion and practice of Sati have ignored  one
>important fact.  According to Hindu doctrine, self-immolation HAS to be
>voluntary because taking  the life of  a woman is  a grave sin.   Among
>sins regarded as worse than ordinary  killing are the killing of a  cow
>(gau-hatya)   brahmin   (brahma-hatya),   king (raja-hatya)   child
>(bal-hatya) and woman (stree-hatya).
>

On the contrary, Hindu belief is that no act is inherently good or
bad. 

>   Some people who are familiar with the Mahabharata (I know I should
>not take this familiarity for granted!) or have at least seen the movie
>by  Peter  Brooke  might  remember  the following incident.  During the
>battle  of  Mahabharata,  Bhishma  turns  out  to be invincible and the
>Pandavas have a problem.  Then they remember Shrikhandi.  Shrikhandi is
>actually a girl, but has been  brought up by her father (wishing  for a
>son)  as  a  boy.   Bhishma  knows  this.  So  Arjuna,  accompanied by
>Shrikhandi attcks Bhishma.  Bhishma knows that Shrikhandi is actually a
>woman and will not shoot back lest an arrow hit her.  At the end of the
>day, Bhishma is  completely pierced with  arrows and falls  back in his
>chariot but his body does not touch the ground since there are too many
>arrows sticking out.
> 

Dronacharya was killed. King Duryodhana was killed. And above all,
Bhishma was killed. What you have stated earlier isn't correct.
Same goes for Ramayana.

> 
>    The moral that one cannot kill a  woman if one is a good Hindu  is
> quite  obvious  here.
> 

In case you haven't heard the story about Parashurama, allow me to 
tell you that he killed his own mother. What do you mean by a "good
Hindu" ?

>    We have to remember that  Westerners have a psychological need  to
>feel superior to non-Westerners.  Thus small things that are wrong with
>Eastern cultures are over-emphasised and big things wrong with  Western
>culture are quietly  passed over!  Shall  we talk about  the bombing of
>Hiroshima  and  Nagasaki?   Or  shall  we  talk  about  the massacre at
>Jallian-walla Bagh?  Your choice.
> 

Westerners may have a psychological need to feel superior to 
non-Westerners. They may even be superior. But that is immaterial.
Sati is the problem (and a not a small thing as you seem to suggest).
Are you willing to accept that ? Showing that Westerners are 
equally barbarous is not going to help prevent Sati (IMO).

>          Rohit Parikh

RKP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ganesh@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ganesh Tirupattur Ramaseshadri)
Subject: Info on Lousiana Tech@ Ruston**************
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:35:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

Hi. Can anybody from Lousiana Tech @ Ruston give me some info about the on campus 
job scene.
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( JAVED and his RELEVANCE FUNDA)
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:55:27 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:


>Know your facts first. VIDYA BHARATHI is not run by RSS.  People who were 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You Know Facts First.

Is BJP linked with RSS?

No.

But why BJP ruled states are going on RSS path?


Both are fundamentalist().




Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Yetanudder conundrum ... pun oriented !
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:05:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.180109.17647@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar) writes:
>Shiva:  If you ever shave, I'll open my 3rd eye and reduce you to a
>        pot of ashes. Well, ciao !
>
>WHAT IS THE MORAL OF THIS STORY ?????

Obviously Shiva was afraid this dude Benny could afford himself a 
5-star shave -- something Shiva himself could not get (The 
prithviraj chauhans that stand at the gates of these hotels 
would never permit a fellow clothed in tiger skins to enter). 
So the moral of the story is:
****************************************************
* NEVER PROPITIATE CHIKNAA (CLEAN SHAVEN) DIETIES. * 
****************************************************

(Unfortunately, apart from Brahmha, all our dieties seem to be 
chiknaas.)

regards,
--   
   ______ ______ ______ ______ __  |\/\/\/|
    ____/  __  /  __  /  __  /  /  |  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS 
   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
  /   /  /   /   ___/  __  /  /    C      _) 
_____/ _____/ __/   __/ __/ ______/ | \___|  
E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Reply To Arindam: General Matters
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:08:19 GMT

>
>Why wait to see if something survives or not? 
>If there is dissent, have a dialaog with them.
>If you can't resolve it, just practise a little tolerance.
>Here is something that many other religions, Bahai faith NOT excluded,
>can learn from Hinduism.
>
>GENERAL NOTE: Covenant-Breakers are those who accept the authority of 
>Bahaullah, but not that of the later leadership of the Bahai faith.
>If you truly believe *only* in Bahaullah, you are as good as expelled
>from the community. [Even limited analogies help. It is a little bit
>like the Vatican's approach towards Christ: you didn't get very far
>with the Popes by believeing in Christ alone.]
>
They are given all the dialogue in the world. A person is termed covenant
breaker only he explicitly does not recognize the authority of Bahaullah.
That makes sense: doesn't it. I am sure other Bahai netters will add more
on it. Their rights for interpretation is never questioned. They are termed
Covenant-breakers only when they start trying to force their interpretation
on others and create a schism. As an individual he can continue to hold
whatever belief he holds.
Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: RSS (MP Education System: A Silent Revolution)
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 13:41:13 GMT

uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:


>        The all India Babri Masjid action committee has deplored the 
>the resolution adopted by the Pakistan National Assembly on the Ram-
>janmabhoomi/Babri Masjid and said this is irresponsible and provocative act.
>        In a strongly worded statement the spokesman of the committee
>Mr.Javed Habib asked Pakistan not to act as a center point of guardian
>of Muslims in the sub-continent. He said India is a secular country
>and all problems can be solved with faith, cooperation and active
>concurrence of all communities.



Indu:

Your highly explosive language without any proof need some comment
on Mr. Javed Habib's statement.

Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.kerala
From: vkrishna@nyx.cs.du.edu (Vijay Krishna)
Subject: REASONS WHY I POSTED TO S.C.T AND A.C.K [REF. PANTNAGAR]
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 03:21:27 GMT

My dear angry Keralite brethren,

I would like to summarize the reasons, why I posted to a.c.k
and s.c.t :

1. I was working on my research paper and I found a reference
   of some professor who is associated with the area
   in which I am working and who is/was (?) in Pantangar. 

2.  Being unaware with the geographical location of Pantnagar,
    I confused it with Palghat (I guess it is somewhere in
    Kerala).

3.  I have to work on a time bound assignment and I found it 
    convenient to post the query to s.c.i, a.c.k and s.c.t.
    Unfortunately, none of the responders have answered my
    query, but instead, they kept on fighting on petty ego 
    quibbles.

BTW, I am leaving for Europe and I would advise to stop
all this nonsense chain of replies and counter replies. 

I have received the following information regarding Pantnagar
from some of my friends: 

Pantnagar is one of the prestigious universities of Asia, founded in joint
colloboration with University of Illinois, Urbana, U.S.A and
Government of India in 1960.
It is located in U.P in the beautiful hilly regions of Nainital.
It has got seven colleges including Engineering college-
College of Technology..
The Computer Science department doesn't have email facility
but, seems to have one in near future.

Please note: I am no way associated with Pantnagar- its staff
and students. My article may expire in next couple of days,
so, stay cool.:)-      


Cheers,             


V. Krishna
From: rs@sys.uea.ac.uk (CHE Guest News Login)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ramjanmbhoomi-babrimasjid dispute
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:05:22 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

arvindv@fraser.sfu.ca (Arvind Verma) writes:

>several solutions have been proposed to solve this problem but none seem
>to be practical or rather acceptable. However, anyone studying this problem
>would not have failed to notice that its not really a dispute in which people
>of both the communities are totally on opposite sides. What everyone is looking
>for is a face saving formula; or to be correct- a formula to save the face of
>vhp-bmc leaders.


 If these (sic) leaders were to be locked up and left to 
>forefront should be locked up in a big conference room, permitted not to leave
>until they have resolved their differences and their deliberations be occasionally aired on tv to reveal their true calibres of reasoning! I am confident that
>these persons claiming to be leaders will not last more than a week and will
>skimper away once they realise that they will truly remain confined unless 
>the matter is resolved. Apart from these persons the rest of the country has 
>better things on their mind and will certainly not miss them! 

I think that if we start solving problems via this modus-operandi, then we can
definitely solve all our National problems like Punjab, Kashmir, etc. etc., but
who will agree to this solution.
Those people who are supposed to solve lock up the miscreants, are the root 
cause of whole mess.
If we simply live telecast our Parliament and Assembly proceedings, then our
public (ignorant and illiterate), can easily judge their so called leaders.

Within a short span, all these leaders will be exposed to Nation, and younger
generation will have an excellent opportunity to take the charge of nation in 
a much better way.

And as per Darwin's theory, only "survival of fittest " will happen.

But will those leaders allow it to happen ????????????????...
   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Yestedrday Sri Lanka, Today Burma....
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 08:21:15 GMT


This act of the GOI is one of its two face policy.

Shame GOI !! Shame GOI !!

Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: karthik@daisy.ECE.ORST.EDU (Karthik Ramamurthy)
Subject: Looking for Anurekha at Texas A&M Univ
Organization: none
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:07:00 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

I am looking for Anurekha from P.S.G College of technology.I believe she has 
joined the biomedical engg. dept. at Texas A&M starting this falll.Could
anyone knowing her ask her to contact me.My email address is karthik@aldur.ece.
orst.edu and my home phone no: is 503-753-8218.
Thankx
Karthik Ramamurthy

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