HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM (Howard Solomon - SunExpress Support Engineer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: the b-word
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:39:09 GMT
Reply-To: his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: the-temple.east.sun.com

In article 16934@midway.uchicago.edu, elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) writes:
> John Dorrance (who looks exactly as he should, even in my favorite scarf):
> >>There's a dearth of chicks, though...
> 
> Sim Aberson (more like Jesus than Cousin It, but charming nonetheless):
> >Three eventually showed.  Wish there were more...
> 
> I saw no poultry at all, at least not ambulatory poultry.  I did,
> however, notice five women:  Marcia and Lisa, Laura Arnold, and (for 
> a five-minute appearance) Mara Chibnik.  And myself.
> 
> >Had a fabulous time!
> 
> Ditto.  (I *must* have...I let Sim talk me into taking a *picture*.
> Perhaps Grandmama will punish me for my lapse.)
> 
> --
> Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu


Ellen:

Grandma is not the only one who is upset.  My camera will get you.  Don't know
where, don't know when, but beware!  Besides, that gorgeous red hair deserves
many photos.

Howard

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Howard I. Solomon			|ELECTION '92
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ba.motss
Subject: Re: HOMOPHOBE ALERT! - Please act!!
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:22:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Jul30.034456.21771@news.Hawaii.Edu> johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes:
>I have just done so.  Here is the letter I wrote, if anybody wants a
>template.  Change it around a bit, fill in the xxxx's, and mail it
>off!
...
[letter excerpt]
>	I have been a BofA Visa Card customer for xxxx years (account #
>xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx).  My BofA Visa account currently holds a balance
>of about $xxxx, on which you earn xxxx% interest per annum (about
>$xxxx).  I do not want my money going to support the BSA's homophobic
>policies.  Hence, if BofA reverses its current policy and resumes
>funding the Boy Scouts, I will have no choice but to transfer my BofA
>Visa balance to other credit cards, cut up my BofA Visa card, and mail
>it back to you.

I wonder about using a tactic like this.  I think you should encourage the
bank NOT to knuckle under to people who attempt to use these tactics and to
do what is right.  After all, it's letters like this that are are making them
reconsider.

>	Please continue to stand for what is right.  Don't knuckle
>under to the discriminatory demands of anti-gay hate groups.

This is more like it.

      -paul asente
	   asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

They called up to Alice, who, having put on an ingeniously constructed
bathing slip, met them in the pool.
From: jfl@panix.com (Jeff Lipton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: PBS Has New Sponsor for "Great Performances"
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:09:30 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <ku4DoB3w164w@penn.Gwinnett.COM> bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writes:
>rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams) writes:
>
>> Stuart Elliott, the openly-gay Advertising Columnist
>> for The New York Times, reports (7/22/92) that
>> Duracell Inc., the battery manufacturer, will replace
>> Texaco as a corporate underwriter of PBS's "Great
>> Performances" series.  Duracell will provide $1.5
>> million for the 1992-93 season, compared with the
>> $1 million Texaco spent in 1991-92.
>
>Hooray for Duracell! (quick, now whats there lesbigay stance?)
>did you happen to note a corparate adress so we can send a 'thank you' note/s?
>> 
>> Duracell will not have any role in determining the
>> content of programming on "Great Performances."
>        even Better.


	The imagination boggles at what sorts of gay-positive 
advertising messages could emerge from a battery company...
eg., "I like my men with D-cells; no AA boys for me...", or a whole
line-up of battery-powered toys, with fewer and fewer still oscillating
as each cell dies...
	Just a thought...

 - Jeff

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: I HATE GAY MEN.
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:24:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul29.172410.23764
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul28.210621.31393@watson.ibm.com> jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
>the essay was extremely slanted and one-dimensional, but
>there was a lot in it that i identified with.

Yeah, but the difference is that I don't give a fuck
about what these other people do.  I especially wouldn't
whine about it.  It's hard to piss and moan about pissy
queens without getting yourself wet in the process.

>maybe you should try to read it with the perspective that
>the author doesn't live in SF or NYC.  it's my guess that
>he doesn't have the same community you do.

You mean people are like that OUTSIDE of SF and NYC???

:-) :-)

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: pjames@hubcap.clemson.edu (perry r james)
Subject: video of _Lost Language of Cranes_
Summary: where can I get a copy?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:32:56 GMT

Hi,
   I just finished reading _The Lost Language of Cranes_ yesterday.  What
a great book.  Unfortunatly, I did not get to see the movie on PBS.  The
wise ones in charge of South Carolina's Educational Television saw fit to 
protect us from ourselves and not air it.  Does anyone know where I can
get a copy on tape?  If it's not available commercially, would some kind
soul make me a copy?
   Thanks for any help, 
   Perry

+----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+
|Perry James           | They think I'm crazy, but I know better.  It is not | 
|pjames                | I who am crazy.  It is I who am MAD.  Ditche hear   |
|  @hubcap.clemson.edu | em?  Ditche see the crowds?  O my beloved ice cream | 
|                      | bar.  How I love to lick your creamy center.        |
|                      |                          -- Cptn. Ren Hoek          |
+----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Jeopardy (was: Re: about SF gay pride)
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:03:36 GMT


In article <michaelh.711669962@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>, michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) writes:
|> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> 
|> >|> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
|> >|> >(Why do I remember stuff like *this* and how *do*
|> >|> >I get on "Jeopardy"? :-))
|> 
|> >This is old news, but the winner of the most $$ ever
|> >on Jeopardy is a big tall thing with a big moustache
|> >who goes periodically to the Altar, a gay leather bar
|> >in NYC.  
|> 
|> wasn't he also a cop?

Was and is as far as I know.

He's *real* *tall*; noticeable taller than me and I'm 6'3".
And that moustache! and he's smart.  He does have
one small flaw, and that is that he never seemed
to show any interest in *me*.  Pity.
-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: the b-word
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:42:45 GMT

mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>> Perhaps Grandmama will punish me for my lapse.
>
>No, your punishment is reserved for your *WICKED* behavior at 
>Rooster Rock :-) 

Wait a minute:  _MY_ wicked behavior?  *I'm* not the one who got on
hands and knees, nude, to lick that large block of ice, nor the one
who was photographed, nude, spanking the ice-licker, nor the one
who ripped my clothes off.  Nor did I do whatever you did to get that
*interesting* sunburn....

(The only *WICKED* behavior I can think of is allowing good friends
 to carry my laptop through miles of swampy underbrush.)

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: New Network for Me
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:26:19 GMT


My workstation changed networks this afternoon.  I don't
think this will affect mail to me at all, if the mail is
addressed to anderson@macc.wisc.edu, which is the return
address in my postings and outgoing email, except that I
won't get my incoming mail until sometime tomorrow or the
day after.

The change likely will effect those who try to mail directly
or to ftp to my workstation, yak.macc.wisc.edu.  That mail
will bounce and the ftp connection will be refused.

The name yak.macc.wisc.edu is converted into an IP host
address by a so-called nameserver machine.  Nameservers
usually cache the results of their requests for a few hours,
seldom more than a day.  Each entry in the cache remains
until a certain time (configured by the nameserver's
sysadmin) has expired.  A subsequent name resolution request
will then fetch the new IP address and all will be well.
The nameservers associated with every network between you
and me now have the wrong IP number in them if a aonnection
has been attempted, and it will take up to about a day for
all those caches to be flushed.

If ftp (to get the fortune file, for example) is your task,
you can connect in the interim by using not the hostname but
rather the new IP number, which is 144.92.30.18.

The reason incoming email likely won't be affected is that
it really comes to a mail relay machine, from which it is
then forwarded to me.  Until the mail relay machine's
nameserver cache is flushed (tomorrow afternoon), the
forwards won't succeed, but the mail will be held, not
bounced, and the relay machine will try again until it gets
the new address.

News posting and reading is not affected by any of this.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:44:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Organization: Scarlett & Rhett's Resp Ctr
Newsgroups: soc.motss

soc.motss / cjs@canctr.mc.duke.edu /  1:59 pm  Jul 23, 1992 /
> I posted this, but I don't think it got cross-posted...her name was
> Devon and she played Ellen Chandlers daughter on All My Children. I believe
> that this was actually about 10 years ago...but I'm not really sure of who the
> actress' name is or anything...
> 		Caryl
> cjs@canctr.mc.duke.edu

The actress's name is Donna Pescow.  She played John Travolta's "slut"
girlfriend in _Saturday Night Fever_, and the title role in the ABC TV
series _Angie_ (which co-starred Robert Hays of _Airplane!_ fame).


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Internet:  mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com        don't speak for HP.....
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: chrisa@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (C. G. Albone)
Subject: Re: t-shirts
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:08:22 GMT

In article <92196.000425MCARTWR@auvm.american.edu> MCARTWR@auvm.american.edu (Martina Cartwright) writes:
>A friend of mine picked up the most humorous t-shirt at a mini-region
>gay/les/bi convention in Delaware which had a picture of Bert and
>Ernie on it (two muppet characters from Sesame Street) with the title(s)
>of top (under Ernie) and bottom (under Bert). Could be different, though,
>I can't remember but Bert could be top and Ernie could be bottom.
>
>I'll check the shirt.
I remember seeing a tshirt like that here in Oz last year. I think the
text said something like "Just Good Friends". There were also posters with
the same picture up around campus with the text "Queer as F***".
 
---
Chris.
From: josmith@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (J)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The sexiest man on TV
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:54:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Jul21.175450.28020
Organization: Washington State University!

In article <17087@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>
>I heard that Stewart is straight. Perhaps he is comfortable enough with


	Damn... Does this mean I'll have to get a sex change so he'll let me
bear his children?
	(Everytime I see him wearing those sexy pajamas of his I drool 
incessantly...  maybe Pavlov could shed some light on my situation... or at 
least ring a bell...)
	-J-


-- 
"Faggo's of the world UNITE!"- Scott Thompson (the Kids in the Hall)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: MOTSS CENSUS - FORM
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:15:02 GMT

In article <1300@dosbears> drp@dosbears.uucp writes:

>In article <1992Jul14.165844.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> stevenz@milori.ccit.arizona.edu writes:
>
>>A: "Honey, have you seen the tv remote?"
>>
>>B: "Nope."
>>
>>A: "grep tv_remote living_room"
>
>GREP: FAILED TO OPEN CLOSET_DOOR

Got it securely locked, I'm sure. :-)

>GREP: FAILED TO OPEN DINING_ROOM_DOOR
>GREP: FAILED TO OPEN HALL_DOOR
>GREP: FAILED TO OPEN KITCHEN_DOOR
>GREP: FAILED TO OPEN OUTSIDE_DOOR
>GREP: FAILED TO OPEN PATIO_DOOR

Wouldn't this work better with find?

house% find /living_room -name "*remote*" -print
find: cannot open /living_room/closet
find: cannot open /living_room/liquor_cabinet
find: cannot open /living_room/curio_chest/knickknack_box
/living_room/couch/cushions/tv_remote
/living_room/bookcase/dust/vcr_remote

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: steven@cray.com (Steven Levine)
Subject: Re: sex with gay and bi men (part 2)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:21:26 CDT

In article <1992Jul30.022427.24120@cis.ohio-state.edu> amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky) writes:

>arnold (who originally thought this was going to be a short
>          chatty thing, and who worries how long it will go on)
>  [irreverent echoes of the shape-note song here:
>     "how long, dear savior, oh how long
>      will this bright hour delay?"]

Not so irreverent, and leading to the response, three verses
later:

      "his own soft hand shall wipe the tears
       from every weeping eye
       and pains and groans and griefs and fears
       and death itself shall die."

But whose soft hand?  Gabe's?  Biff's?  Do we look to one or the other
for salvation?  Much as I seem always to be looking for Biff, I'd
put my money on Gabe.

--
steven levine
steven@cray.com
From: kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: the b-word
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:21:54 GMT
Organization: The Zymurgy Institute

In article <1992Jul21.155006.27282@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
>
>To wit, there are too many people in the world.  There are too many people
>in the world because so many people think having their own babies is
>really neato.  This "breeder" mentality is driving overpopulation of our
>planet.  Everyone who thinks that having their own kids is just too
>cool for words and they can't imagine not having kids of their own are 
>part of the problem.  That makes you part of the problem.  You bred and
>made more people, deal with the fact that some of us don't appreciate
>that.
>
Overpopulation is a serious international problem, but I think the causes
are more complex than just the breeder mentality. Educating people about
contraception methods and making contraception widely available, especially
in areas of lower education and income levels, would help reduce
overpopulation in the long run. The most overcrowded areas are also the
poorest and least educated areas. These areas are also the hardest hit by
sexually-transmitted diseases, so making condoms more widely available would
also reduce the transmission of those diseases.

(And education is important;
just this morning in the paper I saw a plea from a Peace Corps-type group
that's trying to promote contraception education among islanders in the
Pacific. The group was requesting dildos since the islanders were confused
by simulations, and thought that they were supposed to actually put condoms
on bananas or corncobs before they engaged in sex.) 

Another aspect of the problem is that (in the U.S., at least), there needs
to be more of an emphasis on having fewer children. Overpopulation is
usually treated as if it's a problem that happens somewhere else and only
causes problems in individual countries. There should be a societal pressure
to only have one or two children.
 
Worries,

Scooter Corleone

--
"A man barely alive. We can rebuild him. We have the technology, but we're
going to need a hell of a lot more coffee." 
 
Xref: sparky soc.motss:33332 rec.martial-arts:10548
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Hard & soft ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:17:06 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Jul31.140016.24679@samba.oit.unc.edu> Paul.Elkins@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Paul Elkins) writes:
>This is a very curious combination.  Kajukenbo (very hard) and Kung fu
>(typically soft).  Of course my Hsing-I head instructor was/is a student of

I don't think 'Kung Fu' is typically soft. There are plenty of very hard
Chinese systems.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Why?
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:55:27 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

I heard on the radio this morning that Bank of America and Wells Fargo
are thinking about retracting their ban on funding BSA.  This was due,
it was reported, to the hundreds of negative phone calls they have
received.

Why are there not more calls from gay people to support them?
 - I did, as well as Levi Strauss.
Why do the FunnyMentalists seem to be better organised at making themselves
heard under these circumstances?
Why is my perception becoming more jaded about the "gay community" -- do
we vote?  Do we call?  Do we care?  Why are we allowing this to happen?

Perhaps I am just crankly cos it's my b-day (33) and I am feeling old
and tired.  Words of encouragement, please.  Maybe someone could BinHex
me a couple of twinks?
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: G/L Youth Suicide
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:51:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul31.005106.8839
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Jul29.163500.25124@tandon.com> tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:
>>As a guess, I would wager a man would have been more helpful to me in
>>dealing with my sexuality than a woman.
>As long as the man did not have any unresolved sexual issues from his
>youth which might cause him to be unprofessional, then you are quite right.

I'm not sure I'm quite right, myself.

But you are of course right about professionalism.

>The person receiving the counseling certainly doesn't need to have
>more problems cast upon them from a deviant counselor, and in
>general, we don't need the bad reputation.

But the problems of "deviancy" are certainly nothing specific to
lesbigay counselors. This sort of issue comes up with all counselors,
and I see no reason why those who are non-heterosexual need special
treatment.

I do see why other people might think that queer counselors need to
be watched extra-carefully. Why? Homophobia.

Nelson, more prolific in posting these days. Colour me refreshed by
the con.
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                 Shame is playback: exposure to disapproval
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: new hankie codes?
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:41:42 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <1992Jul24.002733.102@csrd.uiuc.edu> hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:
>
>Bill, who has met gay boys who don't know what hanky codes are

No particular reason they should know, unless they hang out at places
where it is used (which may include entire neighborhoods, not just
bars). Perhaps you should take them on a field trip to the Chicago
leather bars....

BTW, I was at the Mr. & Ms. San Francisco Cheeks and Chaps contest
last week -- just to get material to post of course -- and found
some clueless people wearing hankies. Unfortunately, they were the
contestants. Several of the contestants were wearing multiple hankies;
one had a shade of green I hadn't noticed anyone wearing. I accosted
him at intermission and asked what it was. His reply was that they had
been given the hankies to wear and he thought it meant 'hustler'.
One of the others was wearing black, yellow, and red, on the right.
Rather an odd combination.... One of the judges asked him what it meant,
the contestant admitted that he had no idea and that he picked those
because they are the colors of the German flag. I swear, kids these
days....

--
         David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
              Information gladly given but safety requires
               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
            D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Hanky Code
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:08:37 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul30.225631.12618@cheshire.oxy.edu> don@oxy.edu (Don Goldberg) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.164841.4409@spdcc.com> joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)  
>writes:
>> In article <1992Jul30.103409.24788@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu  
>(Jess Anderson) writes:
>> >
>> >Only 69-joke I know: 
>> >Q. What's the square root of 69?  
>> >A. Ate something.
>> 
>> Q. What's the square root of 69i?
>> A. i 8 something.
>> 
>> -- 
>> US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
>
>
>No No NO!
>
>The last Q should be:  What's the square root of -69?

I feel like I'm going to disappear into a hell-spiral of "NYAA NYAA"
messages even after I looked at the original posting and realized it
was wrong, and have received mail about it, and, and. (Breathless).

-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.