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From: johniac@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Pro-life vs. Pro-abortion
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:58:02 GMT
Reply-To: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division, Austin, TX

In article <21641@rpp386.lonestar.org>, jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
|> I don't know how much pain you've suffered, but having been a motorcyclist
|> for 16 years, I've been through quite a bit.  There is a qualitive
|> difference between "stimulus" and "pain".  As someone who is extremely
|> ticklish (OK, so the secret is out ;-), I can tell you that being held
|> down and tickled for 10 or 15 minutes causes my body to respond quite
|> differently than if I slide across dry pavement at 50MPH and open a few
|> square inches of skin to the fresh air.

Of course YOU can tell the difference if you're the one experiencing
the pain, but it's much harder for an outside observer to tell the
difference (particularly if you can't communicate, and the observer
can't hear you scream). 

|> For one thing, the adrenelin rush is quite a bit different, often even
|> before I realize I've been severely injured.  "Rubber hammer on knee"
|> can produce a similar muscular response, but I doubt that the hormonal
|> reaction is quite the same.

This could be true.  I suspect that such experimentation has not been
done, because nobody would volunteer to have her unborn baby injured
just to see what its hormones do.  And even if the hormones do the
right thing, you still don't know if it really hurts, you can only
guess.

---
John Iacoletti       IBM AWD Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"It takes a big man to cry.  And it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
                                                              -- Jack Handey
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: The blame game
Date: 30 Sep 1992 19:52:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Sep28.195434.27106@technology.com> judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin) writes:
>	I think you're missing the point, Jay.  These people don't
>	have to come here to do the kind of work being discussed.
>	They can do it from many places throughout the world and
>	never set foot in Texas.

People that make this comment don't understand the nature of the job. Systems
programmers need to be next to the machine.

>       The point being made is that, you
>	don't seem to mind other people's jobs being sent "overseas"
>	because you feel quite secure in your high-tech job.

Thank you for reading my mind and putting words in my mouth.

If my job _could_ be sent overseas cheaper and just as effectively, I'd have
to live with that. Union steelworkers who have priced their jobs at five times
the going rate on the world market are in for a very harsh dose of reality: a
job isn't worth more money just because you coerce an employer into paying
more for it. At some point, he'll find a cheaper alternative.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    Vote for a REAL change on 3 November: Throw out the check-bouncing,
  tax-and-spend Democrat Congress! (obviously, not an opinion of UTHSCH)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Pro-life vs. Pro-abortion
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:17:39 GMT

In <21647@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.165802.5761@watson.ibm.com> johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:
>>This could be true.  I suspect that such experimentation has not been
>>done, because nobody would volunteer to have her unborn baby injured
>>just to see what its hormones do.  And even if the hormones do the
>>right thing, you still don't know if it really hurts, you can only
>>guess.

>The point is that unborn children ARE injured all the time.  As I stated
>in the very beginning of one of these threads, we know that children
>react in certain manners because now we have ultrasound and ultrasound is
>used to help a prenatal surgeon with whatever it is they do.

>Your mistake is in the assumption that the injury must be intentional.  It
>doesn't, and in fact it often isn't.  But the child is "injured" just the
>same.

And your mistake, apparently, is in equating 'injury' with 'pain'.
How, pray tell, does one measure 'stress' in an embryo?  Check to see
if it's biting its nails?  :-)

[Even if you demonstrate 'stress', you haven't demonstrated 'pain'.
Pain implies that there is a consciousness there to 'feel' it.
Irritability (reaction to external stimuli) is NOT necessarily an
indicator of consciousness.  For example, one can measure 'stress' in
plants from injuries inflicted on them, and they do react to such
injury (although not in the way an animal necessarily would).]

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: William.Sanders@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (William Sanders)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: Station Wagon for Sale
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 10:08:46 -0600

* Original Area: Uhw
* Original To  : All (1:106/665)

* Original Area: Swapshop
* Original To  : All (1:106/665)

Its a Volvo 145, 1972 edition.  Gas engine, automatic transmission, weber dual
carbs, 4 cylinders.  Has a radio and major rust.  Runs. 300,000 plus miles. 
Bought it in August from owner who had it for 14 years.  Need to sell it to get
my other car outta da shop.  600.00 or best offer.  Leave a message here or
reply via netmail to 106/665.  Thanks!  Bill
From: b_lmcgilve@cpvax.cpses.tu.com
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: XTXW 2-horse trailer wanted
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:48:14 CDT
Organization: Texas Utilities, Glen Rose TX 

I am looking for an extra-tall extra-wide two horse trailer.  So if you
have one up for adoption, please send me email.  Must be in good condition
and capable of hauling two 17-hand horses in reasonable comfort and great
safety.  Can also call and leave message at 817-326-5011 (please don't call
after 8 pm - I get up very early).

Laurel McGilvery			Not only do I not speak for the
CPSES (temporarily)			company, the company does not
Bechtel Corporation			speak for me. 

All opinions expressed are obviously mine.  Who else would own up to them?
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From: tomn@hounix.org (Tom Newsom)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: Assistant Data Processing Manager
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:54:25 GMT
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX

Assistant Manager of Data Processing: Houston (Conroe)
The position demands a broad range of experience and training in computer
science, information technology, business management, and financial 
accounting.  Duties are diversified in an active corporation.  
Preferred Experience in 
1) Unix, MsDos, Novell
2) Cobal, Informix, and other 3rd and 4th generation languages 
3) Business Management & Automated Financial Accounting Systems
4) Systems Integration, Communications

Contact Human Resources Joe Cantu (409-760-3399 or 713-350-3399)

-- 
tomn@hounix
Vice President HOUNIX

Computer Systems Maintenace Engineer
From: baylor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Baylor)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: Re: PART-TIME JOB
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:58:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

>
>WIVES!! MOTHERS ESPECIALLY!! I HAVE JUST RECENTLY FOUND A PERFECT PART/FULL TIM
>SELL, YOU GET GREAT TOYS AT A DISCOUNT FOR YOUR OWN KIDS!!       HUSBANDS!!! IF
>YOU ARE THE ONES READING THIS, TELL YOUR WIVES!!!!!!!! THEY WILL LOVE YOU FOR


	I'm sorry, this bugs me.
	1) Don't scream. Most terminals have a caps lock key that can be turned
	   off.
	2) This is hardly a job that sreams mothers only or females only.
	   There are House-Husbands out there, and there are men who can
	   and do sell toys, including these (i was at the demo in seattle).

	It really grates to hear husbands, go get your wives to come see
this. Sorry, but being a professional, she has better things to do, and
i doubt she will love me for being shown this ad.


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From: narayan@cs.montana.edu (R. A. Narayan)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,tx.general,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Recruiters in Dallas / Houston / Austin, TX
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:25:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Sep28.152513.13826
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717


Hello folks,

Could you please send me a list of recruiters / headhunters in the Dallas / 
Houston / Austin area?

Thank you very much.

Narayan

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Organization: Scientific Placement, Inc.
X-Charset: MACINTOSH
From: DAS@spi.com (Dave Small)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 19:04:43 CST    
Subject: SCADA Austin TX 
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Distribution: na

Job Title & Location

SCADA Austin TX
This is a position that starts as the only person in the department and
could grow into manager of the engineering group.

Write protocols for various RTUs used to measue flow, pressure and
temperature within the oil and gas industry. 

Duties:

Support a Unix based communications front end connected to the satellite
master earth station or network control center.

Write application filters in C that will take the data from the MNET and
make it compatible with the software package that the customer is running

Interface with customers calling in to retrieve data from the communications
network

Skills needed:
Some SCADA experience
C language
Knowlege of Unix, DOS, Windows or any of the realtime OS
Ability to interface with hardware designer for a new 68302 based embedded
system
Working knowledge of 68000 family

Send resume (ascii preferred) via Email to:

Please send resume with salary info to:

Linette Harwell
Scientific Placement, Inc., Box 19949, Houston, TX 77224
713-496-6100  Fax: 713-496-6802
Internet: LSH@scientific.com; Compuserve: 71250,3001; AppleLink: D1580;
Genie: D.SMALL6; AOL: DaveSmall
Formats: Ascii text via Email preferred. Macintosh or PC Word processor
formats are OK via Email (binhex). Please do not send LaTex or
Postscript.Fax is discouraged unless Fine Setting on your fax machine is
used (to enable OCR scanning). US Mail on 3.5 inch diskette is OK too.
Immigration status: You must be a U.S. or Canadian Citizen or have a
Permanent Residence Visa. 
New graduates: Employers utilize the college placement offices to hire new
graduates. They do not employ recruiting firms for this purpose. We are
unable to assist recent graduates.



David A. Small, President
Scientific Placement, Inc., Box 19949, Houston, TX 77224
713-496-6100   713-496-6802 (fax)
DAS@Scientific.com -or- D1580@APPLELINK.APPLE.COM
Compuserve: 71250,3001, AppleLink: D1580, Genie: D.SMALL6, AOL: DaveSmall,
BIX: Scientific
From: Dave-Nuttall@cup.portal.com (David Dave Nuttall)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: Technical Writer/Analyst
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 05:51:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Immediate openings for two technical writers.  One is considered entry-level,
the other is intermediate/experienced.   Ideal intermediate candidates have 
first-hand experience documenting large software systems using DOD Std 2167A.

Degree in a related field is desired but not required.
Jobs include standard company benefits (e.g. health insurance, 401K,
vacation, etc.)    We are an Equal Opportunity Employer.
Start date:   as soon as filled.

Send (FAX/MAIL/E-mail) resume to:

Century Technologies, Inc.
4335 Piedras Dr West, Ste 130
San Antonio, TX  78228
FAX:  512-736-9663
E-mail:   dave@csoftec.csf.com
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
From: mgd@world.std.com (Matthew G Davidson)
Subject: Apple Newtons
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:21:31 GMT

I heard that apple just dumped 700 personal (mostly sales people) for the 
Newton project.

I am moving to Austin in December - does anyone know anything about this,
and if they do, DO THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE???


>>>Matthew
mgd@world.std.com
Nf-ID: #R:f-454.fidonet.org:0:trsvax:268000001:000:167
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!cls    Sep 30 13:03:00 1992




Please read the notes group for new users which explains net etiquette.
Especially regarding posting commercial advertisements and using obnoxious 
capital letters.

Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: frankw@rice.edu (Frank Whitby)
Subject: Immaculate GT Avalanche MTB For Sale
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:26:48 GMT



October 10, 1992
Frank Whitby
Houston TX
frankw@rice.edu

Immaculate GT Avalanche For Sale

18 inch, 1990 model puchased new in spring 1991.
Less than 500 easy miles on it, All Deore DX
components, Araya RM-17 anodized, Ritchy tires,
all in perfect condition.  An excellent high
performance Mountain Bike.  $600.00





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: frankw@rice.edu			:	Rice University		       :
: (713)527-8101 x3346 (operator assist) :	P.O. Box 1892		       :
: (713)527-8750 x3346 (direct dial)     :	Houston, TX  77251	       :
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Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: billk%radian@natinst.com (Bill Kastak)
Subject: Chevy Camaro For Sale
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:30:17 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Radian Corporation, Austin, Texas


1985 Chevy Camaro for sale.  Automatic Transmission, A/C, 
Fuel Injection, AM/FM Cassette.

Charcoal gray exterior; Custom black cloth interior.  

LOW mileage;  only 65K miles.  Good Year Invicta tires.
One owner with all maintenance records.

Asking $3300. (negotiable).

Call Bill at 327-8351 or respond via e-mail if interested.
From: enigma@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (the Flea Circus)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: Car Sale: VW Wagon for $700.00 only
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: enigma@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (the Flea Circus)
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: enigma@thumper.cc.utexas.edu

I am posting this for a friend. Please do not
response to me
--------------------------------------------------
69 VW Squareback (wagon) 
1.	 Automatic Transmission, 
2.	1.6L fuel injection engine,
3.	Good running condition, new brakes, 
	new rotors, new tires, battery, 
	ignition coil, Bosch silicone cables;
	 body has dents in the front, very 
	clean interior,
4.	color: white; good for restoration 
	project; 

Price $700 firm.

If interested , please contact siukie through
		1. voice @ 476-7219 or leave message
		2. email siukei@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu


Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: mwilson@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Monty Wilson)
Subject: Laser disk player, cheap.  Tinker project but working
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:14:51 GMT

The item for sale is a Magnavox Magnavision laserdisk (with the Laservision
emblem) video disk player.  Has channel 3/4 outputs and also video and left
and right audio line outputs.  Cabinet is in fairly good shape but with some
scratches.   Date of manufacture indicates about 10 years of age.

I bought this thing at a flea market for $75, and have ascertained that it
does play disks, but it does not seem to be doing it correctly.  It seems
to lose its ability to track toward the end of the disk.  I do not have
the patience to take it apart and clean/align it, if in fact that's really
what it needs.  When it is playing, the picture quality, color and sound
are wonderful; that part of the laser disk reputation is well deserved.

I have no disks to include with it other than the one that was in it when
I bought it (side 3 of "The Greatest Show on Earth") but it plays any disks
you buy/rent which have the laservision emblem (they all seem to have it.)
Includes manual and remote control.

Someone please make me an insulting offer on this box of wonderfulness!
mwilson@twisto.compaq.com or Monty at 713-356-7849 evenings.

........Monty.

Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: greeves@kahuna.Arco.COM (Gayle Reeves - PRC C6609, X6691)
Subject: 1991 Acura Integra For Sale
Reply-To: greeves@kahuna.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:53:14 GMT



For Sale:    1991 Acura Integra 3 door (hatchback) GS

The GS is the top of the line of the 1991 Integra series.

Front wheel drive, 4 cyl. DOHC engine, 5 speed manual transmission, 
four wheel disk anti-lock brakes, 135 mph V-rated tires.

Features:     Power windows, doors, mirrors, and moon roof.

              Air conditioner, AM/FM cassette with Acura (Alpine) single
              Compact Disk player.

              Acura security system.  Features keyring remote to disable
              alarm and unlock doors.  Qualifies for first level car
              alarm insurance discount in Texas.

              Tilt steering wheel, driver's adjustable lumbar support,
              cruise control, fog lights, after market tinted windows.

26K miles on the car.  There is still 10K miles left of the original
3 year/36,000 mile warranty.  The car is white with grey interior.
It has never been dented, wrecked, or even dinged in the parking lots.
Garage kept at home and covered parking at work.  All required maintenance
has been performed with receipts.

Asking price:  $13,995

Please contact Gayle Reeves at (214) 754-6691 or email to greeves@arco.com  
|  Gayle Reeves                    Plano, TX                    |
|  Internet: greeves@arco.com                                   |
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From: vinj@natinst.com (Vineet Jain)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: FOR SALE: New 200MB hard drives $$389
Date: 29 Sep 1992 11:33:44 -0500
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

#>Hard drives for sale...here's whats left, Prices reduced! 
#>
#>
#>(1) Conner CP30174E 170 MB IDE Hard Drive, $340 (1 left)
#>
#>(2) Maxtor 7213A 213 MB IDE Hard Drive, $435 (1 left)
#>
#>(3) Seagate ST3144A 130 MB IDE Hard Drive, $275 (2 left)
#>
#>Capacities are formatted capacity.  All drives are new in factory packaging.
#>Form factor is 3.5" by 1" high.  Prices don't include shipping.  Full factory
#>warranty is provided.
#>
#>If you want any of them, please send me email at c60a-zo@volga.berkeley.edu or
#>call me at (415) 564-4366
#>
#>
#>Thanks.

Brand New Western Digital 200MB formatted (WD AC2200-32) IDE hard drives for 
389$. All drives are brand new in factory packing, and come with 1 year 
warranty. I guarantee that these are the lowest prices you can get....

Prices don't include shipping.

If you want one, give me a call at  (512) 795 6812, or
				    (512) 343 0998  
or send me email at vinj@natinst.com
From: vinj@natinst.com (Vineet Jain)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: For Sale: New 213MB Maxtor 7213A hard drives ($405)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 12:13:52 -0500
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

New Maxtor 7213A 213MB drives  for 405$. All drives, are brand new and
come with a one year warranty.  

The specs on the drive are as follows:

	o Formatted Capacity 	212.8MB
	o Cylinders		1690
	o Data Heads		4
	o Disks			2
	o Sectors per Track	48-72
	o On board Cache        64k
	o Average seek time 	15ms

You can contact me at the following email : vinj@natinst.com
					    
or, (512) 343 0998


Vineet Jain

Newsgroups: tx.forsale,houston.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,austin.forsale,dfw.forsale,comp.sys.att
From: cosc16tt@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Subject: IBM, Unix PC, RGB Monitor, printer forsale
Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:11:05 GMT


All this stuff for sale:

IBM PS/1
	80286 @ 10 MHz
	512K RAM
	2 serial, 1 parallel
	serial mouse
	monochrome VGA
	1.44 Meg Floppy drive
	$300 + shipping

Magnavox RGB Monitor
	Model: 8cm515
	PRICE:  $150 + shipping

Alfacom Aero Printer
	9-pin
	requires a bit of engineering to feed the paper, but
		my fix for this is included
	missing the top piece (hence the kluge mentioned above
	PRICE:  $40 + shipping

AT&T Unix PC
	1 meg RAM
	20 meg HD
	Motorola 68010
	5.25 floppy
	AT&T Unix system V R3.51
	Foundation set and Development set
	PROBLEM:  After running for about three hours the hard drive
		totally freeks out.  Just needs a new hard drive.
	PRICE:  $100 + shipping

Contact me at DGray@uh.edu

-dennis

-- 
Dennis Gray, Jr.                 "What the hell were you doing???"

DGray@uh.edu                   "Attempting the hell to communicate."
                                     -from The Voyage Home
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 70's COKE MACHINE $350
Summary: Also includes a WANTED request for 16mm movie camera
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:00:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

It helps to have a working e-mail address, or to include a phone number
when you are trying to sell something...neither of which this man seems
to have bothered to include in his post. 

Since I'm posting, I thought I'd ask, since I need one, if anyone has
a 16mm movie camera to sell, lend, give.  I'm currently studying film
production, and I'd like to get my hands on such a beast.

-=> Brian (captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu      512-478-0525 leave message)


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From: young@gdfwc3 (Mark Young)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: 1991 Toyota MR2-Turbo (forsale!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:04:47 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division



		1991 Turbo MR2, Very Fast!
---------------------------------------------------------
	5 speed
	Anti-Lock Brakes
	Air Bag
	CD
	Cassette
	7 speakers
	Alarm w/ ignition disable and keyless entry
	Nautical Blue
	43,000 miles

	$14,500
----------------------------------------------------------


(214) 906-5430 Ft. Worth/Dallas Metro

Ask for Bart!
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