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From: Margaret.Halbeisen@f302.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Margaret Halbeisen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: math!!
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 22:26:12 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/302 - SpaceMet South 1, Holyoke MA

Hi, David. Here are some story problems I made up for you to try your hand at before Friday. Work out your solutions on paper or send them to me via SpaceMet. Then try making up a couple of problems of your own.
 
1) David went fishing with his father.  He caught 18 fish and his father caught 9 fish. How many more fish did David catch than his father?
 
2) David went clamming for three days of his vacation. On the first day he dug 13 clams, on the second day he dug 23 clams and on the third day he dug 18 clams. How many did he have in all?
 
3) David and his parents ate the clams he had dug for supper. If each of them had the same number of clams, how many did David eat?
 
4) David never wanted to see another clam after eating too many the night before. He and his parents decided to go to a steak house instead of eating seafood. If each of them bought a $9.00 meal and David had a $5.00 dessert, how much did they spend on supper (not including tax or tip?)
 
5) David and his family spent the day on a fishing boat. They caught a total of 42 mackerel. They caught half as many cod as they caught mackerel.  How many cod did they catch?
 
6) David and Jody went to the snack bar for lunch. They had $5.00 to spend between them. They each wanted a hotdog for $1.20, a soda for 75 cents and a bag of chips for 50 cents. Did they have enough money to get all of this food for both of them?
 
Try working these out without a calculator and make up a problem or two for me.  On Friday we'll wear old clothes and go exploring in a pond - maybe the one at the far end of your lake that's behind the beaver dam, OK?  I'm looking forward to seeing you again. And no flash cards!


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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: WORKSHOP-GRADES          
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:02:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Dear Mary Darling, and Paul Winters:

The messages regarding the inservice program seems to be a topic only of
interest to the two of you, and not to other readers in this forum.
Since both of you are posting messages from the same BBS, why not post
these messages in a local area that you can both read, but doesn't get
echoed all around the world to uninterested persons.

Thanks,

Sheila King
K12_Math echo Moderator
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                 

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From: Mark.Tomsett@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Mark Tomsett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: mathematics
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:32:56 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Has anyone out their in VCE land got an answer or set of answers for the recent cat2 problems?  Questions 1 and 2 seem to have final answers to them which can be compared to other answers,  
(quality of answers can be compared) although 
it is really the processes that students have used to reach these answers which is being measured/assessed.  What do we do about question 3, I have 20 students of which about 10 have done Q1,two have done Q2 and rest Q3. 
Any help or ideas on assessment would be appreciated but I believe we will be receiving answers from VCAB.
Mark Tomsett (Teacher at East Doncaster Secondary College)   


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From: Carol.Hooper@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Late work
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 18:53:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/89 - Wolverine BBS, El Paso TX

Ok everyone....How do you handle late work?  Really need this advice.  
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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Want To Be A Moderator???
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:54:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

This message was from JACK CRAWFORD to ALL,
originally in conference K12.SYSOP 
and was forwarded to you by JACK CRAWFORD.
                    -------------------------
IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!  IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!

            +---------------------------------------+
            |   Would you like to be a moderator??  |
            +---------------------------------------+

September is the month when K12net considers new candidates to
moderate each of its non-Channel echoes. While our sysops provide an
effective yet amazingly inexpensive delivery system, it takes
skillfull, imaginative and energetic moderators to stimulate and
guide the creation of applicable curricular content in our echoes.
Do you have the "stuff" that it takes to be a good moderator?

K12net moderators assume a responsibility to assert a skillful and
continuous managerial *and* editorial presence in their echoes to
stimulate the posting of lively and appropriate conversation and
information of a curricular nature by and for our worldwide K-12
community.

Moderators are appointed by the K12net Council of Coordinators,
usually through the Moderator Coordinator, (currently Jack Crawford)
for a term of one year expiring at the end of September. This term
may be renewable. There may be more than one moderator in the larger
echoes.

If you would like to be considered for appointment as a moderator,
please send a "resume" to Jack Crawford at 1:260/620 by Sept 21st
with the following information:

1. Provide a "topic sentence" (not more than 25 words) which
   describes the curicular and/or professional educator focus you
   propose to give the echo. Also include your ideas on any specific
   projects you would like to implement in the echo.
2. Briefly describe your background and professional qualifications
   in the echoe's topic area.
3. Describe your experience with international telecommunications-
   based conferencing and collaboration.
4. Describe the extent of your commitment to "assert a continuous
   managerial and editorial presence" in the echo.
5. Current moderators should indicate their desire to be reappointed
   and, in particular, address items 1 and 4 above.

IMPORTANT: Please limit the size of your "resume" to about 300 words!

=jack= Crawford
K12net Moderator Coordinator


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From: David.Doucett@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (David Doucett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: y
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 19:22:42 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

hi mardit idont now waer to strte on my vacsoni had a lot of fun on it i went woter ski on jody boat . did you like my postcgds? opsss i havy 
to go to daner by


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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: MathMagic
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 18:18:53 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

Hi, Sheila.  Well, just forwarded your great problem to the
powers that be (those that are choosing the problems).
How did it go with your principal?  Did the idea of
computers/modems/telecommunications lighten up the room as
you spoke?  Was he in awe?  Did he reciprocate with a
teaching assignment?  ahhaha.  Tell me your in, Ms.
Sheila..........it won't be the same without you.  (Have I
answered all your questions?)
I'm forever in your debt for that great "write a letter to
little sister/brother idea."  That was wonderful!  I used it
and was so "cool" for that idea the kids had never heard
of...hehehhe.......o.k. o.k. I didn't tell them it wasn't
mine...sorry.  heheh.
Finally, I'm getting a load of messages from compuserve.
They say they are getting teacher chat?  I guess they cannot
get Channel 2, is that right?  I'm learning but it's so slow
sometime.  Looking forward to your response.  Thanks, Carol
My math classes are really coming along and I am enjoying my 7th 
graders (last year it was only 8th, this year, I have mixed.)  My 
phone line/modem are being activated on Monday and my kids are so 
excited about the program.  I am being asked if they can continue to 
participate when this year is over...that's exciting.  THe responses 
for mathMagic are building and it seems to be really gaining 
attention.  I'm nervous as heck but really anxious to get it underway. 
 Thanks again for all your help.  As always, your math advice worked 
wonders!  Carol


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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: WHAT ARE YOU?            
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 17:58:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Howard,

You asked:

-> When you think of yourself in terms of your occupation would you
-> describe yourself as:
->
-> A.  A mathematician who has some ability to communicate and teach
-> mathematics.
-> -OR-
-> B.  A teacher who some ability with mathematics.

Well, I would describe myself as B. Although I am currently studying
more math, I don't feel that I have had enough coursework in math to
call myself a "mathematician". But I think I am a potential
mathematician, and have a natural talent for mathematics.

-> Just curious, but serious,

Well, what makes you ask?

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                                                            

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: AP CALCULUS              
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 12:14:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Hello Ed,

-> As you mention later, by 1995 graphics calculators will be used in
-> the course and I think the AP Board is using the next two years to
-> plan the revised course.

Has that been officially decided, yet? Last spring they were still
talking about 1995 has a tentative date. However, I think they are going
to try to meet that date and it probably will come to pass.

-> I'm also going to keep my eyes on the reaction of the colleges and
-> universities up here in BC.  At present most do not allow the use of
-> calculators of any sort during first year calculus!

Gees, not even scientific calculators??? I have just been taking
differential equations at a local (and rather well know) technical
university, and we use calculators all the time. I could imagine
instructors at the univ. level being reluctant to allow graphing
calculators, although I believe they will come around, too. But by the
time students get to the university they should have a scientific calc.
in their hands at all times. We so they have to do silly arithmetic
calculations by hand?

-> What is interesting is the price of math software!  If you haven't
-> seen it yet try to get a copy of DERIVE.  The Student edition may not
-> have the power of the biggies (Maple etc.) but it runs on an 8086 (or
-> higher :) and has a price tag of about $60 ($50 US).

I will have to check it out.

-> I'm also wondering how my grade 7 parents are going to react when I
-> insist each of their children bring and use calculators in math!?

Boy, you teach a wide range of age levels.

Sheila
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From: Carol.Hooper@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: A favor, please
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:10:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/89 - Wolverine BBS, El Paso TX

Hi, fellow Math people.  I will be holding an inservice in my district 
to teach MathMagic participants and interested parties how to 
participate in the project.  But, I will also be furthering the cause 
of telecommunications within the classroom.  Admn. will be there 
looking for a reason to install telephone lines, etc. in classrooms 
around the district.  Can I also ask for messages which I can show my 
people which will verify that electronic communications is a must in 
the classroom!  Thanks in advance (you can bring up MathMagics, too ;
;)!


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From: Paul.Winters@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Winters)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Workshop-Grades
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:14:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

-> Would you ask them if they would like an inservice on the grades
-> program? and which day would be best for them?  I would be happy to g
-> over there.

   Okay, will do.
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From: Carol.Hooper@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: re: What Are you?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 18:53:09 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/89 - Wolverine BBS, El Paso TX

I'm B....


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From: Robert.Morewood@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Morewood)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Re: AP CALCULUS
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:49:53 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

     I Just caught this thread and I have to take exception to the strong 
distinciton being made between Calculus and "The Exam".  I taught university 
calculus for several years before moving to high school and composed many 
(interesting) exams for my students.  I'm not terribly familiar with the AP 
exam, but I found the one last spring to be reasonable. If you cannot do a 
reasonable exam, then you really don't know calculus!  Calculus is not a set 
of fuzzy "concepts", but a collection of mathematical tools to be exercised. 
Of course, to use these tools properly you must understand the theory 
supporting them.  That little detail gives many students much trouble on 
exams.  Please pardon my ranting, I spent too much of my university time 
teaching students how to do high school maths.
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|\ob |  |orewood          |  you know something about it.  - Lord Kelvin

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From: Rowan.Berry@p6.f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Rowan Berry)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Trigonometry, HUH??
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 17:29:50 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369.6 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

H    H    EEEEEE   LLL       PPPPPP
H    H    E         L        P     P 
HHHHHH    EEEEE     L        PPPPPP
H    H    E         L    LL  P
H    H    EEEEEE    LLLLLLL  P

We recently started Trigonometry and I don't understand it, can someone please help, all that stuff about Sine and angles, GOOD GRIEF!, I don't get it; I'm beginning to pull my hair out ... AArrrggghhhhh!!!  I'm a year nine student ... Help once again...

THANX
                                =+=+=+=
                                +ROWAN+
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From: Carol.Hooper@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: MathMagic Clarification
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:02:47 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/89 - Wolverine BBS, El Paso TX

I needed to clarify a miscommunication concerning MathMagic and the 
Sept. 8 starting date.  That date is the date of the first problem 
cycle only.  New participants may join in any problem cycle as they 
find convenient for them and their schedules.  Similarly, problem 
cycles may be skipped if curriculum and student demands require that 
it be so!  MathMagic is designed to suit your needs for only you know 
best how it will fit into your classroom.  Please feel free to jump in 
(or out :(!) as necessary.  Make it work for you!


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Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
From: runderhi@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Robert Underhill)
Subject: Re: Cooperative Learning
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 16:54:15 GMT

Carol.Hooper@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org  writes:
> Hi, everyone!  I'm looking for information regarding cooperative 
> learning in the Math classroom.  I am very interested in any of those 
> "must read" books that you all know about it, especially if it is one 
> that guides a new teacher into the cooperative learning method.  I 
> guess a step-by-step approach for the new teacher type thing would be 
> perfect.  If it is directed towards my 7/8 grade math classes, that's 
> even better.  Also, any personal info that will help me, tips, advice, 
> etc., I'd really appreciate it!  Thanks
> 
> 
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Two wonderful sources: Niel Davidson's book and the book Make
It Simpler.
From: Brock.Gunter-smith@f400.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Brock Gunter-smith)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Attractors
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:15:09 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/400 - DEFCON InfoSystem, Winnipeg MB

I am also looking for material on the Lawrence Attractors and any other sort
of chaotic attroactors or systems that are out there.  Books names or author
references would be fine if that is possible...  Anything helps!  :-)  BROCK


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Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
From: lwmason@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (LaRay W. Mason)
Subject: Re: What Are you?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 01:32:45 GMT

Howard,

I like the question you pose.  As an elementary educator, a see
the elementary teacher as a teacher with mathematics ability.
It seems that in the K-5 arena we view the child/student as a
total person with mathematics playing an integral part of the
whole.  The higher the grade level/ older the child, the more
the math teacher becomes a mathematician with little regard for
other areas.  More specialized??  Less aware of other "parts"?
Interesting to think about!!!  

In the elementary curriculum, we are finally seeing integration
of subject matter and it is reall exciting when problem solving
is not just in math class!!!

I'm looking forward to reading other replies/postings!


A thought for you--I'm in good shape----for the share I'm in !!

LaRay W. Mason
Chesterfield County, Virginia
(suburb of Richmond, VA)
From: Ed.Kwasniewski@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Kwasniewski)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: re: MathMagic
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 23:46:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

Hello Alan ... sorry, I almost missed this message! 
 
On 08-21-92 Alan Hodson wrote to Ed Kwasniewski... 
 
AH>  Ed, do you have Internet access? If so, what is your address? 
 
I have ... well, let's say I had access through two universities in 
Vancouver and Victoria.  Unfortunately I've not logged on to the systems 
for a (long) while and my accounts may no longer exist.  I'll check this 
weekend.  I suppose I should find out if there is any mail waiting for 
me ;) 
 
I should be able to send mail though through a Vancouver Fido/Internet 
gate.  I'll toss test messages ( and include all addresses that still 
exist) at your addresses and see what happens. 
 
... OFFLINE 1.40 * RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! 


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From: Paul.Winters@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Winters)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Workshop-Grades
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 08:52:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

-> Would next Wed. after school be OK to have a workshop on the Grades
-> program?  I thought I would invite the Middle School too.  Could we h
-> them set up their classes on a disk and then take it back to the midd
-> school to put on the network???

   Bad day for middle school...I'm doing an inservice on Eagles' Echo
for them at 2:35.

   The new grades program should be functional on the MS net by 2:30
today.  Theoretically. <g>
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From: Howard.Hansen@f101.n285.z1.fidonet.org (Howard Hansen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: What Are you?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:04:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:285/101 - NE Dept. Education, Lincoln NE

I have a question for mathematics teachers or teachers of mathematics:
When you think of yourself in terms of your occupation would you
describe yourself as:

A.  A mathematician who has some ability to communicate and teach
mathematics.
-OR-
B.  A teacher who some ability with mathematics.

Just curious, but serious,
Howard aka H^2

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From: murdoch, WA, Australia (kywong@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au(Khoon Yoong Wong))
Subject: Re: Cooperative Learning
Organization: external studies, murdoch university
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 06:44:10 GMT

In article <20778.2AA5C79C@puddle.fidonet.org>, Carol.Hooper@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper) writes:
> 
> Hi, everyone!  I'm looking for information regarding cooperative 
> learning in the Math classroom.  I am very interested in any of those 
> "must read" books that you all know about it, especially if it is one 
> that guides a new teacher into the cooperative learning method.  I 
> guess a step-by-step approach for the new teacher type thing would be 
> perfect.  If it is directed towards my 7/8 grade math classes, that's 
> even better.  Also, any personal info that will help me, tips, advice, 
> etc., I'd really appreciate it!  Thanks
> 
Examples:
Slavin, R. E. (1989). Cooperative learning methods. In R. E. Slavin (Ed.), School and classroom organisation (pp.131-135). Hillsdale,NJ:Erlbaum.
Topping, K. (1992). Cooperative learning and peer tutoring: An overview. The Psychologist, 5, 151-161.
Good, T.L., Reys, B.J., Grouws, D.A., & Mulryan, C.M. (1990). Using work-groups in mathematics instruction. Educational Leadership, 47(4), 56-62.
From: Mary.Darling@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Darling)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: What Are you?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 09:17:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

-> I have a question for mathematics teachers or teachers of mathematics
-> When you think of yourself in terms of your occupation would you
-> describe yourself as:
->
-> A.  A mathematician who has some ability to communicate and teach
-> mathematics.
-> -OR-
-> B.  A teacher who some ability with mathematics.
->
I'm definitely a B.  I like to see my students in the overall picture
and I think that I need to help them make those important connections.

What I do is teach kids - math.
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