From: claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee)
Subject: Re: Is it in the Genes?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:41:45 GMT


mday@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu (Mark Day) writes:
: 
:    claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee) writes:
: 
:    m-muyot@uiuc.edu (Maria Muyot) writes:
:    : In article <66955@cup.portal.com>, Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com wrote:
:    : 
:    : and according to my father, their family is part Spanish and French, 
:    : and all sides are mixed with Malay. Does this make me less Asian than my
:    : roommate who's parents are both from Shanghai? That's not fair, I was born
:    : in Asia and I've lived there for 19 years, while he has lived all of his
:    : life
:    : in New Jersey! So I'm brown and I sunburn, does this mean that I am also
:    : more likely to be less intelligent than he is???
: 
:    You've answered your question in your question.  If you have a heritage
:    that has infusion of genes other than the Mongoloid race, then you
:    are less Mongoloid than your roommate.  
: 
: Well, I see that you (Hyok Lee) are still on the net, although there
: was a noticeable silence after I asked for some support of the
: supposedly "scientific" theory of races. 

Don't take it as a victory to degenerate.  I had schoolwork to do other
than hack at a computer all day.
: 
: It sure looks to me as though you're determined to cling to this
: notion of "race" despite having no evidence to support it.  Some
: scientist.
: 
: You're even getting confused between race as a descriptive tool used
: by anthropologists and genetic "race".  When anthropologists talk
: about races, they're talking about broad categories of physical
: features.  Since there's a lot of variation of individuals within
: those ranges, it's easy to have a selected individual with a European
: ancestor or two a couple of generations back who has more "Mongoloid"
: traits than another selected individual with no European ancestors in
: the same number of generations.  There are *NO* "Mongoloid genes"!
: Again, if you can find me a single piece of legitimate evidence that
: scientists currently believe otherwise, I'll reconsider.  But I doubt
: that you can.
: 
: --Mark Day
: 
: mday@lcs.mit.edu

You are a fucking pathetic individual.  Do you have trouble accepting
that everyone is created different?  When people speak of "race" or
any arbitrary category that Homo Sapiens place on knowledge of the
world, they agree on what that means.  If you think that race is 
something that is something that is so fleeting, then so is everythingj
that you have thought of as "knowledge."  The logic that you are applyingj
to this subject is similar to what David Hume did to reality.  He concluded
that reality can only be confirmed as long as one perceives it at the
present.

The way you have rejected the possibility that human beings can be 
different leads me to believe that you are extremely insecure about
yourself or you are a racist. The maddening thing is that you would
probably agree that a black person has darker skin than a white person.
If you want to be an anal retentive about it, yes I'll admit it, there
are black individuals who have lighter complexions than whites of perhaps
mediterranean background.  

CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE CONCEPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MATTER WHAT SCIENCE REVEALS ABOUT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GROUPS OF
HUMAN BEINGS, IT STILL MEANS THAT EVERYONE DESERVES EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO
BE ALL THAT THEY CAN BE.

Perhaps you have based your idea of equality on the assumption that all
humans are created equal.  WRONG!!  I obviously am smarter than you,
but you, although you are a complete dimwit, deserve the same rights as
I to succeed in this society.  SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR IDIOTIC 
NOTION AND MINE!!??  By your barbaric logic, if pygmies are indeed found
to be less intelligent than the rest of the world, then they should not
be allowed the same opportunities as us, while by my logic, they would
be still a part of the big family that we call mankind, and be afforded
the chance as us.

Exasperated,
Hyok Lee