HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tim@lenti.med.umn.edu (Tim Leonard)
Subject: How do I run 1.3 when both roms are installed?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:34:36 GMT

I just installed system 2.05 this weekend and ran the "WBupdate" program
so I could boot and run off of my hard drive.  2.0 is now running just
fine but I am wondering about running 1.3, if I need to.  I am using
the Multi Kickstart Board Project board to keep both rom chips in place.
The update program puts 1.3 "startupii" and "startup-sequence" files in
a new directory called "OLD".

My question is this:
	How do I use the "OLD" files to boot 1.3?

Thanks, in advance,

Tim Leonard
tim@lenti.med.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jawil@hpx11.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens)
Subject: Re: locale.library, where is it?
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 13:30:01 GMT

I tried to mail you the latest version of the locale library, but got the
mail in return after 1 second with the error: unknown host...
You should check if your address is right.
If you mail me an adress I could use, I'll mail the locale lib to you.. :)

-- 
                               Jan Roger Wilkens
                     Student at Agder Engeeniering School
                               Computer Technics

                           EMail: jawil@hpx11.aid.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Responsible Parenting
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:24:15 GMT

>
>OBJ Amiga stuff:
>
>Not to waste bandwidth.  Does anybody really use the 1280x400 mode?  I found
>myself using it all the time.  Its great.  Once you get used to the flicker.
>The mode doesn't work with multisyncs though.  (Unless I hear, that you can
>scan down to 15.75kHz)

	Running through the flicker fixer it's steady as a rock. But every second
vertical line is lost. Resulting in a resolution equal to HiresLace. Oh a point to make
here in PAL land we get 512 down. And on my A3000 I get 1440 across Overscan
5xx down can't remeber. 


>
>	sri

	GEorge



Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: hibrown@vidar.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: ASDG VD0: device (or similar) under ADOS RELEASE 2.05
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 16:43:31 GMT

In article <67130@cup.portal.com> pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:
>You just reminded me of something.
>
>September 1992 means that ASDG VD0 is 5 (FIVE) years old. And someone
>reports that works under 2.05? Well, that's quite gratifying. I wrote
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
>it for version 1.2. And it worked on 1.1. 
>
>I haven;'t used it in years...but it's nice to know it is still being
>of help to the community.
>
>Perry Kivolowitz
>(author of VD0)

Actually, the report was that it works under 2.04 and appears not to
work under 2.05.

Sorry for the apparently 'bad' news.

Herb


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla)
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:56:51 GMT

In <1992Sep30.075650.28510@bristol.ac.uk> ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm) writes:
>music was interesting. But, no swearing. I wonder why? Cos mebbe those guys
>knew that their code could stand on it's own two feet without the need for the
>coders to prove that they were ADULTS!!

Glad you feel that way... because lord only knows, getting worked up
over a few words which are essentially devoid of meaning is childish
indeed. 

Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications,bit.listserv.i-amiga
From: jmo50888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josephine M. Otter)
Subject: Re: Annoucement: ToolManager 2.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:46:35 GMT

markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:

>In article <stefanb.717522187@messua>, stefanb@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker) writes:
>|> 
>|> Hi folks!
>|> A new version of my utility ToolManager is ready. I hope you'll like it!

> Here comes the Revolution on your Workbench Screen.
> Thanx for another Masterpiece of Software.


Sorry to all...I was following up to this above post, and did not see that
one that preceeded it, that one that had the location.  You know what they
say...I didn't bother to look to see if anything preceeded then post.


My fault, and I shall now leave and sit in the corner.
From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: DeskTop Publishing (WHICH ONE?)
Distribution: na
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 26 Sep 92 08:51:53 CDT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Sep24.134514.9421@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Douglas Mueller) writes:
>
> I am considering buying a DTP program for my AMIGA 2000 (I'm still
> using WB 1.3 -- with 1.2 ROMS).  I have a HP DeskJet + printer.
>
> I've read the reviews of the "Big Three" (PageStream 2.2, Saxon
> Publisher 1.2, and Professional Page Version 3.0) from the May 1992
> issue of Amazing Computing.  It helps some, but i need the advice of
> you guys out there.  (I notice in the ads in the October Amiga WORLD
> that Saxon Publisher is not widely available ... or at least not
> widely listed -- though Saxon Script Pro is listed several places.)
>
> Anyway, I currently have Final Copy (which I'm very happy with), but
> at times it'd be nice to be able to do more.  -- better graphics,
> postscript support, etc.  I own copies of some PostScript fonts and
> I've bought all the Final Copy fonts (which can also be converted to
> PostScript fonts).  So, I should have a decent font supply for any
> of these things.  I suppose that the ability to read graphics formats
> form other platforms would be nice (so I can use scanned stuff from a
> friend's IBM compatible).  So, I seem to be leaning toward PageStream
> (and Hot Links).  I'm wondering if buying the Saxon Script Pro would
> be helpful as well.  (Would it allow me to print PostScript stuff to
> my Desk Jet + easily?)
>
> Any help would be useful.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>                                   Carl Mueller (mueller@math.wisc.edu)

Personally, I like PageStream.  It has a much more Amiga-like feel to it
than Pro Page, not to mention being vastly more capable in the graphics
import department.

As for PostScript output, get POST.  It's free, on one of the fish disks,
and does a fine job of outputting PostScript to just about any preferences
printer.  (Works marvelously on my DeskJet...)

--

=====================================================================
 Robert Kesterson             "First learn computer science and all
 robertk@taoami.lerctr.org    the theory.  Next develop a programming
                              style.  Then forget all that and
                              just hack."        -- George Carrette
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR IBM DISK READER
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:44:23 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <BvDI9I.4LE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, quimbyj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jeff Quimby) writes:
> 
> I'm looking for an IBM disker reader.  More or less, I
> want to be able to read IBM disks by my amiga drive
> without having IBM compalibilty.  Is there such
> a thing?  Where can I get it or Send me a copy.

You can get CrossDos 4.00b from Fish 382.  It's the demo version of the
commercial product.  The demo allows read-only; the commercial version is
read/write.

There are rumours that CrossDos has been integrated into a future release of
AmigaDos.  I purchased mine years ago and am a very satisfied customer.

-- 

Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 9118543@sunvax.sun.ac.za (Christiaan Keet)
Subject: sdf
Organization: University of Stellenbosch, RSA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:54:52 GMT

sdfsdf
From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
Subject: NEC P3/P5
Summary: Request for technical information
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:32:13 GMT

[I posted this to comp.periphs.printers without results, maybe I have better
 luck here]

Greetings, all!

I have a chance to buy a used NEC P3 or a NEC P5 for $150 or less.  I
wonder if this is a good price and I also wonder if one of these printers
fits my needs, which basically come down to significantly better output
quality than my plain old FX-100.
	I have absolutely NO IDEA what either of these printers can do.
24-pin?  Emulation modes, compatibility?  Maintenance costs?  Print speeds?
Fonts?  I've heard vague things about the P7 being a good printer; how does
the P3 or P5 compare to it?

If you own one of these printers or have experience with them I would
*very* much appreciate hearing from you.  I'm looking especially for
technical data that would affect print quality, but any sort of personal
experience, including opinions are also quite welcome!

Email response is preferred.  Thank you VERY much (in advance.)

 ._.  Udo Schuermann     "If I went around calling myself emperor just because
 ( )  walrus@wam.umd.edu  some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd
 Seeking virtual memory   put me away!"         -- Monty Python's "Holy Grail"
From: gb03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: quick question about DICE and one about >Matlab<
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:34:39 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep30.030855.9180@uceng.UC.EDU>, dmartin@uceng.UC.EDU (Dale Mart
in) writes:
>
>Hello!  I had two quick questions I was hoping someone might be able to
>answer.
>
>1) Is there an easy way to mix assembly and C code with DICE other
>than  doing it in the link phase?  (In Quick C, there is a _asm flag
>that lets one start cranking out assembly code in the middle of their C code.
>It's kind of cool)
>
>2)  What is the newest version of Matlab for the Amiga?  The one I have is
>realyy ancient.
>
>Thanks!
>       Dale
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>If you don't care where you are, then you ain't lost.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>dmartin@uceng.uc.edu
>Dale Martin
>
2   MATLAb went commercial shortly after 1985.  The versions left are early
prototypes developed for graduate work. (VisiCalc followed a similar path).
The last prices I saw on MatLAb were not cheap (don't remember them).

George Bluhm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted)
Subject: Re: DRAWMAP comment
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:50:57 GMT

mathers@sibelius.trl.oz.au (Steven Mathers) writes:

>Just a quick comment to the author of DRAWMAP:                         

>One thing you add to the program would be the ability to rotate the map
>around the centre point.  This would allow the user to specify just
>about any map imaginable, rather than only maps with NSWE orientations.

What I would love to see is the ability of the program to 'fill' the
continents/landmasses itself, instead of just drawing the contours.

(Don't say that this has finally been added, or that the program always
could this, but I never figured out ?)

Hi.
--
      Jakob Gaardsted   .    .  | Black Rainbow(TM)     .         .      .
  Computer Science Department . |. Invaporated      .        .        .    .
University of Aarhus, Jylland(!)|   .            .      . Cordless Life  .  .
 .  pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk   .    |          .    .    .     Pointless Mouse .
From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Less-177.4 TERM settings!?!
Keywords: less
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:08:16 GMT

I've got this sucker installed with the latest termcap and
ixemul.library, but still can't get it to do proper screen clears and
other ANSI stuff using any of the termcap entries with the TERM
envariable (i.e. 'amigalace' gives me a number of WARNINGS: cannot set
(all the screen-specific stuff)). Who uses this program and what do
you have your ENV:LESS set to as well as your ENV:TERM ? A couple of
people sent me suggestions, some of which I treid to reply to but my
mail bounced back...
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From: ai.pittman@mcc.com (Karen Pittman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Tape drive questions
Date: 4 Oct 1992 15:56:30 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

We are looking for a tape drive with which to do system backups.  We'd
like something with low media cost and a capacity in the 2 gig range.
 
I have seen 2 gig DAT tape drives (Sony, Wangtek) advertised with other
Amiga hardware, but have not seen any 8mm drives advertised to Amiga
users.  

Do you know of an 8mm drive that Quarterback or Amiback (or
some other backup software I'm unaware of) can control?

If you have had experiences which lead you to believe DAT, 8mm, or some
other format is superior with regard to economy, data integrity and
hassle-free-ness in face of huge archives (we are talking
over-a-gigabyte), we'd like to hear from you.   We'd also like to hear
about your experiences with backup software.  Email to this account is
welcome. 

Thanks!
-Karen Pittman (and John Witham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Subject: amiga-ibm file transf
Reply-To: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:25:13 EST


CC>Dear Amiga Internet Enthusiasts,

CC>I have a question regarding transferring data between an Amiga and an IBM
CC>PC.  I realize that this may have been discussed before but....

CC>I want to transfer large amounts of data (greater than what will fit on
CC>a 720K formatted IBM floppy) from the IBM to the AMiga. I know of two
CC>ways to do so. 1) Using a NULL modem.  Does anyone out there know how to do
CC>this?  Are two communications programs (one on each machine) required to
CC>transfer the data, or can a DOS 'copy' command be used?  Where can one
CC>get the NULL modem cable?
CC>2) Has anyone tried using a Syquest removeable 44m or 88m drive to do the
CC>above?  I would prefer this solution since it means not having to have
CC>a separate IBM PC or having to move the 'source' data machine next to the
CC>Amiga.  If you format the Syquest drive in Amiga format, will the IBM be
CC>able to write to the drive, and vice-versa?  How could this be accomplished?

 There are a couple of options available for transfering files to the IBM.
 
 1. Get a HD Floppy for the Amiga when they become available and use CrossDos
    to transfer your files to a 1.44 meg IBM formatted Disk
 
 2. Get a null modem cable and use two terminals to transfer the files. Even
    better get the Shareware utility called TWIN. It comes with an Amiga and 
    IBM executable and works from dos. You run the program on both computers
    and then type a command like; COPY dh0:files/*.pic ~d:\temp, this line
    would transfer files from the Amiga drive to the IBM harddrive at amazing
    speeds.
 
 3. If your files aren't compressed, you can use a program like Zip, LHA ect.
    to compress the files so they will fit on an IBM 720K formatted floppy. Then
    you can un-arc them one the IBM harddrive.

          robert.buonincontro&canrem.com
---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: judd@wilkinson.cs.colorado.edu (Stephen Judd)
Subject: Re: Amiga on TV
Summary: In the great tradition of Amiga sightings on TV
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:38:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.054523.28071@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ajft@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au writes:
>An A1000 is shown briefly on a Private Investigators desk in the
>(Canadian?) movie "Family Viewing"

On a related note...  Has everybody noticed that the new Encyclopedia
Britannica commercials have an Amiga on them now.  A 3000 I think.  These are
the commercials with the kid who knows good value, and gets a lot done
without too much effort, represents the typical student, etc.

The old computer was an Apple IIgs.  I wonder why they updated?  It's not as
if you get to see the computer doing anything.

>	Adrian
>
>-- 
>// Adrian Tritschler                  // ajft@ajft_sun.cs.adfa.oz.au      // 

					-Steve
--
judd@colorado.edu  //        when any mortal(even the most odd)
                 \X/         can justify the ways of man to God
    e.e.cummings             i'll think it strange that normal mortals can
    of course                not justify the ways of God to man


Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:14497 comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6598
From: sevigny@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Sevigny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.unix
Subject: Re: An X-Windows Question !!!!!!!!!
Keywords: X-Windows
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:54:34 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal

In article <1992Sep28.202837.16128@ntg.com> dale@ntg.com (Dale Luck) writes:
>In alexm@leland.Stanford.EDU (alex matthews) writes:
>AS225 is Commodore tcp/ip software. We are beta testing a newer version
>that works with the serial.device. edu prices for as225 is $199.00
>list price is $275.00 This includes support from GfxBase. EDU price for
>X11 is $316.00 list = $395.00
>
>Dale Luck
>GfxBase, Inc.

What version of X11 is that? Do you have a development kit for it? Do you
support any video boards (such as DMI's) ?

--
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   __ Skipping every ?86 numbered lines in your code will remove all your
__/// remaining bugs and bottlenecks 8^)
\XX/  Benoit W Sevigny, software engineering student, sevigny@info.polymtl.ca
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:14727 comp.sys.amiga.multimedia:1337
From: yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: An Amiga Christmas
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:24:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: LLNL_LIS

In article <sheldon.717793939@pv141b.vincent.iastate.edu>,Steve Sheldon writes:
> In <BvCJKH.IE8@news.udel.edu> don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes:
> 
>>pejanes@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Janes) writes:
>>     Actually, Commodore should announce a 'Power Up Or Else' program
>>to get rid of those floppy-only users once and for all... 
> 
>  Perhaps if Commodore sold a harddrive setup for less than $300, people might
> bite on this one.  Until then I guess the above person is volunteering
> to subsidize harddrive purchases.

Great!  Make mine a 1 GB please :)
--
Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
Subject: AQUARIUM: Database update for disks 691-740
Keywords: aquarium,fish,database
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:21:08 GMT

The following is now available for the Aquarium program via anonymous ftp.
Please read the documentation included with the archive:

FILE:
aquarium-691-740.lzh	50 disks of contents to be added to the database from
			AquaBundle-660, aquarium-661-680, and aquarium-681-690.

FTP SITES and DIRECTORIES:
wuarchive.wustl.edu	128.252.135.4	   /systems/amiga/incoming/fish
grind.isca.uiowa.edu	128.255.19.233	   /amiga/Read.These
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu	128.174.5.59	   /amiga/Aquarium           (soon)

 ._.  Udo Schuermann      "New way?  What's this I hear about a new way?"
 ( )  walrus@wam.umd.edu                    -- Alex, "A Clockwork Orange"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Making a 'custom' CD-ROM? Anyone interested?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:31:37 GMT

dey@ravel.udel.edu (Noel Dean Dey) writes:

>The final snapshot of AB20 is available from:

>Bob Bruce
>Walnut Creek CDROM
>1547 Palos Verdes Mall
>Suite 260
>Walnut Creek, CA 
>1-800-786-9907

>The price is $24.95 + $5 s/h  (if I remember right)

>Bob has several various disks available, for including MS-DOS and GIF
>disks, and a ASCII Books disk, but the AB20 disk is the only Amiga-
>specific.  I have several, and am very pleased with them. 

The ab20 disc is nice, but it should be noted that the /incoming
directory is not included on the CD-ROM, so most of the newer stuff that
was on ab20 is missing.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: ra2cs252@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Ho Ling Cherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: FAQ - FTP Sites
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:57:44 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

I have just got an Amiga for the first time and would
like to know where I can ftp pd and sharewares.
Thanks
...
Ling Cherd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Subject: Re: Gee, thanks Commodore. :-I
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 02:21:17 GMT

In article <Sep30.092329.13774@luotsi.uku.fi> jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin) writes:
>
>Yeah, fine.  And how about the European, Australian etc. people?  It
>seems to me that we are paying for the cheap machines sold in the US.
>Amiga 3000 with 2 megs of RAM and a 52 MB hard disk costs over $3000
>here in Finland and we have no hope of any discounts.  $1499.  Ha.

   Oh go out and get a life. If you want to get the A3000 at $1499, THEN MOVE
TO AMERICA. The Amiga market has been essentially comatose in the United States
or the last couple of years, and as such, you can say we are getting a break
for once. It's ironic to hear Europeans groan about low US prices when they
enjoy the benefits of a wide software base, and people actually respect the
name "Commodore". I've been sticking it out with the Amiga since 1987 in the
United States, and I would love to see us get both a wide software selection
as well as some respect for Commodore USA. I would gladly pay more for the
Amiga if I could get either.       
   Commodore USA lost over $20 million last year, so in essence, THEY are
paying now for the expensive machines they've been selling for years. 
   With whining like this, I can see why Maastricht is dead.
 
-- 
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All opinions expressed are my own.          Internet: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu
Amiga / MS-DOS CD-ROM / Sega Mega-CD        "We are here to go!" - Devo