From: joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:39:59 GMT

In article <-MS=m##@engin.umich.edu> echang@engin.umich.edu  writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.035147.7406@athena.mit.edu>, joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) writes:
> If people in Taiwan make it clear that we represent Taiwan, not China,
>the invasion from China won't be deemed as merely internal affair by
>the international society.

If North Korea invades South Korea, the international community will
react despite the fact that according to the Constitution of the
Republic of Korea (South Korea)

   Article 3. The territory of the Republic of Korea shall consist of the 
   Korean peninsula and its adjacent islands.

   Article 4. The Republic of Korea shall seek unificaion and shall 
   formulate and carry out a policy of peaceful unification based on the
   basic order of free democracy.

While according to the Constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of
Korea (North Korea)

   Article 1. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is an independent
   socialist State which represents the interests of all the Korean people.

At the same time, the international community has offered only token
help to Bosnia and Croatia, even though they are sovereign states who
have declared independence from Yugoslavia.

In short, I don't see why you think claim "Taiwan is not part of
China" will help in getting international support.  All you need to
claim is that "an attack on the ROC by the PRC is a violation of the
peaceful world order."  If that won't bring help, then declaring ROT
won't either.

>	Other countries won't recognize Taiwan because both Taiwan and China
>governments declear that there is only one China.  

Then why do they recognize both the DPRK and the ROK, even though both
declare that there is one Korea?

>> What you seem to be arguing is that the name "Republic of Taiwan" will
>> change Taiwan's diplomatic status.  What you don't seem to realize is
>> that other governments DON'T CARE what Taiwan calls itself.  What they
>> care about is the attitude of the People's Republic toward Taiwan and
>> that won't change regardless of what Taiwan calls itself.

>What make you think that way? 

Annex 8442 of the 25th Session of the United Nations General Assembly.

According to the United Nations Yearbook 1971 pages 127-128,

   In the explanatory memo accompanying its request of 17 August 1971,
   the United States said that, in dealing with the problem of the
   representation of China, the United Nations should take cognizance 
   of the existence of both the People's Republic of China and the 
   Republic of China; it should reflect that incontestible reality
   in the manner in which it made provision for China's representation.
   The United Nations should not be required to take a position on the
   respective conflicting claims of the People's Republic of China
   or the Republic of China pending a peaceful resolution of the matter
   as called for by the United Nations charter.  Thus, the memorandum
   added, the People's Republic of China should be represented and at 
   the same time, provision should be made to ensure that the Republic of
   China  was not deprived of its representation.

Also.
   
   A third draft resolution also submitted on 29 September was sponsored by
   19 states, namely: Australia, Bolvia, Chad, Costa Rica, the Dominican
   Republic, Fiji, the Gambia, Haiti, Hounduras, Japan, Lesotho, Liberia,
   Mauritius, New Zealand, the Philippines, Swaziland, Thailand, the United
   States, and Uruguay.

   [...]
 
   By the operative part of the draft resolution, the General Assembly
   would (1) affirm the right of representation of the People's Republic
   of China [...] (2) affirm the continued right of representation of the
   Republic of China.

So you see, the United States and Japan have no inherent problem with
the idea of dual recognition.  The problem with dual recognition is
that the PRC objects strongly to it.  That won't change regardless of
what ROC calls itself.

The 19-power resolution failed because a coalition of socialist and
non-aligned nations were able to block it.  One of the reasons that
the non-aligned nations voted against the 19-power resolution is that
many of them have separatist movements of their own, and didn't want
to encourage those movements from sprouting.  That won't change
whether you have ROT or ROC.

Basically, you would have us believe that if ROC suddenly because ROT,
the world community would suddenly forget about the PRC's objections.

International politics doesn't work that way.

>As long as people in Taiwan make it clear that they
>have their own government (which is true), that they don't want to pretend
>to represent China,

So don't pretend to represent all of China, just make it clear that
ROC exercises de facto jurisidiction over the Chinese province of
Taiwan (which it does).