From: GA.JRG@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Subject: Re: Herschensohn response to Genis
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:55:33 GMT

In article <athos-140992162324@kip2-7.apple.com>,
athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>Today June Genis posted a message admonishing Bruce Herschensohn for his
>behavior during the United We Stand Forum this past weekend.  She
>complained specifically that Bruce didn't want to appear on the forum that
>the third party candidates were invited to.  I called the Herschensohn
>people and this is the response I have gotten:
>
>* Bruce was specifially invited to speak separately.

No, originally he and Barbara were invited to share a platform.
Then some Perot people began to complain internally plus the rest
of us heard about the event and started trying to be included.  In
fact, Bruce made a big deal out of going over and putting her
picture on the other podium so that she would be there "in spirit".
He did not apparently mind sharing the stage with Boxer, just with
non-Demopublicans.

>* Bruce was not informed about the second panel until
>  about 2 hours before the event.

We warned the organizers that Herschensohn might refuse to appear if
he knew third party candidates were being allowed to participate and
told them to use their judgement in advising Bruce in advance of the
event.  We'd already seen John Seymour pull out of a scheduled event
in Orange county when he learned that Richard Boddie was to be
included.  No one was asking Bruce to change the format of his
presentation, only that he sit on the same platform with us.  All of
us would have been willing to adjust our format to match his
preplanned presentation.  We just wanted equal time and the ability
of the audience to ask questions of all of us at the same time.

>* Bruce's schedule on Sunday did not allow for him to
>  participate in the panel discussion.

Bruce was willing to change his appearance just to be heard.
Originally the session was scheduled for the lunch hour.  Then it
was moved up to 9:30 in the morning.  That was what I was told late
friday when the organizers planned to have us all on at once.  When
we arrived we found, that as had been the case on Saturday,
everything was running late and the Senate candidates had been
pushed back to 10:50.  Bruce actually started even later than that
as I recall but we were all finished before the end of what would
have been the original starting time as published in the advance
agenda.

>In addition, they wanted me to let you know that Herschensohn picked up
>some key endorsments from top Perot people and that there was a good
>reaction to his comments.

Bruce had the support of some "top" Perot people before the event
which is how he got what he wanted.  Specifically, Clarence Friend
who is on the steering committee pushed the thing thru in the
absence of a supporter of mine who was sick that day.

It is my observation that there is a real schism in the Perot
movement.  While the rank and file members tend to be rather
libertarian in their perspective (the chair of the Marin group
told me that he'd been analyzing the results of their electronic
democracy polls and it had a 70% correlation with libertarian
positions everywhere they'd set up the equipment) but the people who
have risen to leadership positions are more classically populist
which means that they are authoritarian and believe in using power
structures to advance their position.

>Thanks!

Thank you for soliciting the position of the other side (they won't
return our phone calls) but I don't buy their excuses for a minute.

>-- >Rick Eames My Opinions Are My Own (not >Apple's)

/June
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