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From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:33:35 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

In article <1992Oct14.223554.251@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>
>Laszlo Nemeth
>pond_scum_sucker@cs.colorado.edu
>war
>"Harleys make to much noise. I guess I've just become a BMW snob" Mikii
>Not many men can say they made a woman orgasm and laugh at the same time.

I laugh...even my *friends* laugh when I tell them I made a woman orgasm.

>"He who dies with the most sub-nets wins" Peter Schmid
>DoD #0666          UID #1999

Between your #666 and my #5150 (criminally insane) we should have
the wacko factor taken care of!

btw, in my last posting on this subject I listed the NSR 750 as the
carbon fiber oval-pistoned machine.  That was a typo...of course I
meant NR :)

Clint Flecken-Stimpy

"...we can't rewind, we've gone to far..."  --Buggles, "Video Killed the
                                                        Radio Star"(1980)
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150  
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:36005 rec.bicycles:23173
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RSS helps save Curtis's butt (and other te
Date: 7 Oct 1992 13:45:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 13957@adobe.com, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>
>As it was, without even thinking about it I flipped the bike upright,
>stopped on the considerable downhill very quickly and under control,
>and had gone completely down through the gears to first before I gently
>put my left foot down -- at least 20 feet behind the truck.

Then you performed an important safety manuver that I don't remember if
the MSF teaches or not:  YOU GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY OF THE NEXT
IDIOT WHO IS FLYING AROUND THAT BLIND CORNER!!!!

Happy Birthday, Curtis

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy)
Subject: Re: Dont shoot until you see...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:39:53 GMT

In article <BD.92Oct12132918@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>
>>I have many times read reports of shootings where a police officer put a clip
>>of 9mm into a drug-user and eventually said perpetrator bled to death, but
>>not before beating shit out of police officer.
>
>Does this belong in alt.folklore.urban?  I don't believe anyone,
>PCP or not, beats the shit out of a cop after taking a *clip* of
>9mm (maybe, if the clip only had 1 bullet in it).

I had a friend who was in the Israeli army during the Yom Kippur war.
He told me a story about when his unit was ambushed.  After they took 
cover in a wadi they were charged by the enemy.

This one guy was shot 4 to 5 times and kept on coming.  Finally,
he took this guy out with a head shot.  I guess people are
reluctant to shot someone in the head. (I know I would be).
-- 
Da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo. 
Confessions of St. Augustine, Book VIII, Chapter 7
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Red-hot pipes of fire
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:48:08 GMT

c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij) writes:

>4)  Why do bolts keep spinning when overtightened, instead of stopping like
>    normal bolts?

No problem, just back the bolts off until they start to get tight
again.

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:09:54 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) said:
:- Keeper of the 'Tude (shz@garage.att.com) wrote:
:- : Harleys first captivated me when I pulled up along side one on my CB350
:- : years ago and saw how the whole thing pulsated and bounced at idle.  I
:-                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:- I've got a Norton like that.

	i used to ride a yamaha which once did that. luckily it went
	away when i turned the idling down ;)

	peace,

	- ravi


-- 
'''---```---^^^^^^-----#-----~~~~~----'''------~~~~-----````~~~---------$$-----
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          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:59:21 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Oct14.223554.251@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>>In article <92Oct14.151535.15488@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes...
>>>Okay, denizens...If you could only have 5 bikes in your garage,
>>>what would they be?
>>> 
>>>My list: 
>
>honda 250cc 6
>vincent black shadow
>arial square 4
>BMW military R75 with side car and machine gun (take that you cager)
>R100PD for when i really wanted to ride.

You mean you wouldn't attempt your driveway on the other 4?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Who harasses whom? was (Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist)
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:50:59 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>>jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>
>>tricycles harass little kids,
>>little kids harass dogs.
>
>Speaking from personal experience, both little kids and dogs harass
>motorcycles. Though come to think of it, the kid was on a bicycle.

So, I was sitting calmly on my non-running motorcycle in front of a 
small grocery store in a small town in Vermont.  My SO was at the 
bulletin board in front of the store.  A man was talking on the telephone 
at a booth about 10 yards away.

SO starts to walk toward me so I start the bike, and three seconds 
later feel a sharp (but minor) pain in my left leg.  I look down and 
there's this damn dog sucking on my jeans (another reason to wear 
high boots, I guess).

I yell "Hey!", my SO starts laughing, and the guy on the phone comes 
running over waving his arms and saying something.  I turn off the 
bike, the guy apologizes profusely, and says the only other thing the 
dog has ever attacked is the vacuum cleaner.  Turns out the guy is a 
veterinarian who lives across the street - he looks at the bite 
(*real* minor), and we exchange phone numbers in case his dog dies 
of rabies in the next few days.

SO says she was impressed that I didn't step on the dog (it was an
ankle biter for sure), and pointed out that having a dog that attacks 
motorcyclists is not a real good thing to have.

Except for a few minor chase scenes, that was my only 
dog/bike interaction.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cost of Bike Helmets
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:16:59 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 19714@pilot.njin.net, csc@pilot.njin.net (Sean Casey) writes:
>
>I'd wear a helmet that had a velcro faster if it was easier to use
>than a D-ring. I'd expect it to be able to withstand similar stresses.

DOT certification of motorcycle helmets precludes velcro fasteners

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
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From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: DoD music . . . can
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 19:23:29 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <UeocJe_00YUnFlgOET@andrew.cmu.edu>, Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> Howdy,
|> pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
|> > And speaking of motorcycles,-) I was noticing the otherday that my lawnmower
|> > engine (Briggs & Stratton) is made in Milwaukee.  I wonder how far that 
|> > factory is from where Harley Davidsons are made.
|> 
|> Well, shoot me if I'm wrong, but I think it's the very same factory.
|> I think.  Axel Essbaum would know, if he's reading this...

yeah, he is.  the briggs plant is on the corner of 124th and burleigh.
the harley plant is on capitol drive, right where HWY45 intersects capitol.
as you drive out of the harley plant (going south), turn right onto capitol.
go ~2 blocks west to 124th.  turn left on 124th.  go ~5 blocks south on 124th.
the briggs plant is now on your left.

the harley and briggs plant are separate, but the harley guys and briggs
guys are pretty friendly.  when i worked at harley and we were wondering
how to do plant layout stuff in AutoCAD, we called briggs and they said
"sure, come on over and check out how we do it".

|> 
|> Mark
|> 
|> | Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
|> | ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
|> | Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
|> | '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
|> | I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |

axel
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Buffeting
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:10:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

> mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
>> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>3.
>>  One of the new Bell helmets (as worn by Mario Andretti) has some
>>ridges or strips on its shell to improve stability. Has anyone tried
>>this helmet. I'm afraid that this design is suitable for the helmet
>>position of an Indy car and would not work for the more inclined
>>position of a sport bike. Could this be a case where thousands of
>>bikers pay for the development of a helmet geared specifically for the
>>needs and conditions of Indy or F-1 racing (to promote the company's
>>name) while getting nothing in return.
>>
>Actually, you are paying for the development of a helmet geared for
>Harley Riders!

Well that explains things!  I've been having trouble with my helmet,
and I think it might be geared wrong.  I ride a Honda, so I'm wondering
if I should re-gear it with Al sprockets?  Is it possible to re-gear
a Harley helmet to work on a Jap bike?  Should I change my chain at the
same time I regear my helmet, or is it ok to keep using the same one?
What kind of lube is best to use in my helmet?  I've heard that 90wt
oil is ok, but some people tell me that PJ-1 spray on is the only way
to go...


-- 
|The opinions expressed above are merely the result of chaotic synapse firings|
|After being brutally pummeled about the head by a big mean          -   O    |
|biker, I can no longer be responsible for my rantings.                |      |
|captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Brian Murfin)  DoD# 0690  nt650gt     \_^___/   |

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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:53:32 GMT

chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>;Maybe you should try riding a bike with a REAL engine. Something that
>;has 100 bhp, and lots of low end torque too. 

>I've had three bikes now that make 110+ bhp peak, 
>and all of them go faster when revved way up.
>Hell, I even used to drive a low-revving, torquey
>DP bike, and that one occasionally required a down-
>shift too.

I'm not saying that downshifting doesn't make a difference, it does, and
it's an impressive difference too. But what I am saying is that the way
the FJ's engine is tuned, shifting is often optional. While a near vertical
powerband at redline can be entertaining, it's also somewhat useless on
the street when redline in 1st is already over the speed limit. I would
(and did, by my choice of bike) rather trade some peak HP for a nice
LUNGE in the lower reaches of the tach.

>The point is that this "top gear roll on" thing is
>bullshit.  You can gear a bike so low that it's
>turning 9000rpm in top gear at 70mph, and that bike
>will toast everything else on the road in "top gear
>roll on."  A very tall top gear gives you lousy top 
>gear acceleration, but is great for touring.

The FJ has grown slightly taller gearing each of the past 4 years, and
it wasn't until this year that the Katana 1100 finally bumped it off the
throne of Roll-On King. With either bike, you've got something that's
spinning about 3700-4000 rpm at freeway speeds, but will happily run to
150 mph. That sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.

>  If you 
>want quick acceleration without a downshift, just 
>don't use the top two or three gears.  Works for me.

I've done it from time to time. The FJ is so smooth that I've caught
myself puttering along at 70 in 3rd or 4th instead of 5th.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: djn@csc.liv.ac.uk (David Nixon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Motor Oil codes
Keywords: SAE
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:10:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

Can anyone on this channel explain the SAE rating system for motor oils ?
Basically I want to know what grades are  unsuitable for my bike; given
that I am having problems locating the recommended type of gearbox oil.

The work-shop manual for my Kawasaki KR-1 recommends SAE grade E
or F motor oil, of 10W-40 viscosity: The bike shops
in my part of the U.K. only seem to stock 10W-40 SAE grade G oil.
Now I am  wondering if this grade exceeds the specification stated 
in my manual or is, in some way, unsuitable.

Some oils e.g. "Castrolite" come with a viscosity rating but no other
classification.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help,

David Nixon  --------       Wirral, U.K.
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:16:43 GMT
Subject: Re: chain adjustment questions
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

/ hplsla:rec.motorcycles / bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) /  9:32 am  Oct  6, 1992 /
|>
|>I adjusted mine on the centerstand, and it's gone for 20,000 miles.
|>
|>>Mine is actually on the loose side.  A loose chain will deteriorate
|>>faster than one that is properly adjusted, but a too-tight chain will
|>>also damage bearings.
|>
|...and also wears faster.
|
|The manual for my VFR750 says 15-25mm free play (on the centre stand),
|and puts the "danger limmit" at 40mm.  The 15-25mm seemed damn tight,
|and running it at more like 30-35mm got better chain life.  Made the right
|hand footpeg buzz though...
|
   Honda has really specified a tight chain on the VFR series.  The
problem is that the chain gets tighter when you add weight.  (My dealer
showed me this.)  So if you adjust for 15mm and then sit on the bike it
tightens the chain far too much.  I use 25-30 mm (1"-1.25") and it seems
to work fine.  You should check the chain tension at least once with
someone sitting on the bike.

One data point,

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GSXR transmission problem -> SOLVED <-
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:23:23 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>In <1b2nhfINNcmj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> starfish@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur) writes:
>
>
>>In article <1992Oct8.191216.22206@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>>same old fluid. That old fluid must have had some water in it or
>>>something allowing it to compress and not give me full clutch
>>                          ^^^^^^^^
>>			  Water is not compressable.
>


Actually, liquid water is slightly compressable.  However, not enough
to notice for this application.



--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Now we're on to something
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:14:29 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1992Oct13.074851.2205@galadriel.bt.co.uk>, by ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola):
> Antony.
> DoD#1832.
>

Sorry folks, I was lost for words !!

Antony.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: goof2 paint
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:40:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

In article <jmp.718353677@atmos>, jmp@dar.csiro.au (POWELL James) wrote:
> When I rub my wheels with kerosene and a rag, to remove chain goop, I am
> finding paint coming off! Its not flacking off or anything like that, but, a
> red stain (I have red wheels) is being left behind on my rags after
> cleaning. I'm also a little worried about the speed at which the wheels are
> picking up stone chips...
> 
> Any comments / ideas greatly appreciated.

Try some "Bug & Tar remover".  Its gentler on the paint and does its job
quite nicely.  You can find it at any auto store.

David.
--
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| David L. Campbell, IBM PSP Austin       | "The comfort you have demanded |
| INET: dcampbel@ajones.austin.ibm.com    |       is now mandatory!"       |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: oprrrmx@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Robert McCullough)
Subject: GPZ550 help needed/ Nolan helmet info needed
Organization: Georgia State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:57:05 GMT

I'm a new proud owner of a 1983 GPZ550 and was hoping some other
riders with the same bike could give me the low down on the bike
(tips, quirks, place to order parts(engine and body)).

Also I would like to order a Nolan helmet. Anyone got the address
or phone#?
From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yet another chain question
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:41:48 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>chrud@oakhill.sps.mot.com (David Chrudimsky (AMCU Circuit Design)) writes:
>
>> The only thing I can think of is that the hollow end is to be
>>spread out like a rivet.
>
>Yep, that's it. If you're doing with the chain on the bike, use the
>biggest sledgehammer you can find on the backside of the masterlink as a
>portable anvil, or you'll pound for hours with no effect. Or if a hammer
>& punch isn't sophisticated enough for you, there are special chain
>ridviting tools available for about the price of a good o-ring chain.

What about a long bit of wood and a friend?  Wedge one end of wood
behind the sprocket, pull it back against the tyre, it forms a lever
pressing against the back of the spocket.  Get a friend to hold the
free end whilst you hammer.  Obviously get the soft link on the sprocket..

-- 
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From: klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Harley attitudes and other bikes
Keywords: Buell
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:06:17 GMT
Distribution: rec

I've noticed that many of my friends, who are fanatic Harley people
rave about the Buell, usually referring to it as a "Buell Sportster".
Now let's think about this a minute folks.  To these screaming
Harley fanatics, a Buell is a Sportster.  Never mind that a Buell
consists of a bare handfull of Harley arts, the most notable of which
is the engine (which Buell modifies heavily, btw).  It is always
a Buell Sportster.  By that same incredible leap of logic, shouldn't
a Harley really be called a riceburner.  After all, a Harley is
an American made bike with a handfull of Japanese parts (carbs, front forks,
shocks,etc).  Just a thought.  I guess it depends whose ox is being gored.

--
Ken Franklin 	They say there's a heaven for people who wait
AMA     	And some say it's better but I say it ain't
GWRRA           I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
DoD #0126       The sinners are lots more fun, Y'know only the good die young
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: American Sportsbikes
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 20:04:57 GMT

In article <Bw6IKE.EMp@acsu.buffalo.edu> v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I AM the Nighthawk) writes:
>	I don't think Harley-Davidson Motorcycles realizes how much of a killing
>they could make with an American-Born-and-Bread sportbike.  In the lastest issue
>of Cycle World, the editor sent a letter to the Harley people that seemed to
>reflect the idead and hopes of a great many readers, myself included.  Just
>think of it, a Harley liquid cooled 80 cubic inch motor with over 100 hp
>wrapped in a just enough plastic to make it look good and cut the wind well...
>0-60 in less than 4.0 sec, mid-11 quarters, and killer great looks (much
>like the aforementioned Buell) all from an American built bike.  So when
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know much about Buells so maybe I'll get flamed mercilessly, but...
what's the difference between a Buell--with its Harley engine, great looks,
and respectable performance--and what Harley could produce? Buells are
expensive, but you _know_ any 80ci sportbike from H-D would cost in the low
to mid-teens.
I think Harley-Davidson has found the perfect (and vastly profitable) niche 
that it's been looking for. A sportbike line would/might be a diversification
that it and its investors would regret.
Just 2 cents,
Alan


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