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From: c34657b@saha.hut.fi (Tuomas Viljanen)
Subject: Re: Vikings (Berserkers, mushrooms,missile weapons)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:16:28 GMT

In article <16iainINNsli@agate.berkeley.edu> tedrick@whistle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
>
>I would agree with the above, based on my own observations. I've long
>been sceptical about the mushroom theory.

How about a mental disorder, like paranoia, schizophrenia, monomania etc as
the cause of berserkism ? Some kind of a mania could well explain the weird
behavior when one falls in the berserk rage.

By the way, what do the berserks and other "Irregular A" (WRG troop definition)
class warriors do when they are at home ? Are they kind and loving husbands and
fathers ?

>On the other hand, there is
>a long history of drugs being given to soldiers before battle (Tienanmen
>Square also, according to rumor).

... remembering the Hashisheem (Assassins)...

>It (the sudden violent rage) seems to be especially useful when caught by a
>surprise attack, before missile weapons became the dominant arm. One theory 
>I've had in the back of my mind but haven't found much evidence for is that it
>was the rise in importance of missile weapons that was responsible
>for the decline of the Vikings (since in hand to hand combat they
>were almost unbeatable).
>
No. Most of all, it was the rise of Christianity in Scandionavia which caused
the decline of Vikings (the very idea that killing people was a no-no thing).
Secondly, in the warfare order and discipline eventually proved to be more 
successful than individual prowess. Third, disorganized infantry (the warbands
like those of Vikings) were extremely vulnerable to cavalry (they thus were
easily ridden over by Carolingian knights (but just when caught before escaping
to the sea, as often was case; the cavalry arrives at place in time only in
Hollywood horse operas !); Vikings had little weapons with which to stop 
cavalry (I have not heard about Viking halberdiers or pikemen, and those weap-
ons do work only with discilplined close order infantry en masse)). Again, 
even the Saxon spearmen in close order proved to be more than a match with the
Viking loose "order". This falls in the second case, though. Missile weapons
rise in importance only after the re-invention of crossbow and the introduction
of longboww, which happened centuries later.


  ++ Tuomas Viljanen                     ++ For a battle like Crecy, you do  ++
  ++ Lahderanta 20 A 19                  ++ not need a military genius like  ++
  ++ SF-02720 Espoo 72 FINLAND           ++ Edward III. All you need is an   ++
  ++ 358-0-592175 or c34657b@saha.hut.fi ++ idiot like the Duke of Alencon.  ++
Newsgroups: soc.history
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Civil War:  Battle Hymn of the Republic
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Aug12.094653.1@acad3.alaska.edu> <22828@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:36:02

From the Britannica Micropedia article on Julia Ward Howe 1819-1910.
Her "Battle Hymn of the Republic" first appeared in the February 1962
Atlantic Monthly.  There's doubtless more in

Richards, Laura Elizabeth (Howe). JULIA WARD HOWE, 1819-1910 (Boston,  
       Houghton Mifflin co., 1925) 


--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Newsgroups: soc.history
Subject: Re: What is it with the Balkans?
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:32:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Aug12.175413.4196@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>
>It still has a bloody long way to go before equalling the viciousness of
>American race relations, which includes the total extermination of whole
>Indian tribes, castration as a means of social control on slave plantations,
>and the Civil War...

This is clearly a result of the example set by the society that produced the
ruling classes in America.

Larry J

-- 
#Larry W. Jewell (ex-USN) jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu                         # 
#"Sunday's horoscope is noteworthy because of its strange, sudden and wholly#
#unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all phases of life." #
#--"Your Horoscope," L.A. Evening Herald Express, Saturday, Dec. 6, 1941.   #
Newsgroups: soc.history
From: alumni107@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Dieppe
Summary: Whos to blame - Mountbatten or Churchill ?
Keywords: Dieppe
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 06:04:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.171146.1241@compu.com>, fr@compu.com (Fred Rump
from home) writes: 
> 
>	[reply about Dieppe raid]
> 
> Does anybody here know what the purpose of this raid was? It was an obvious 
> suicide mission, but why? Were all the raiders volunteers?
> 
> fred
> 
> -- 
> W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
> 26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
> Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
> 609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   

There are several theories, but the two most likely ones are :

1) Lord Mountbatten, the commander in charge of the raid as a whole, 
gave the go-ahead without the support of his superiors. Very handy to 
have him as a scapegoat, since he's dead.

2) The raid was supposed to fail (though not as disastrously as really 
happened) to ease pressure from the Russians to open a second front 
and to allow Churchill to pursue his Mediterranean strategy.

The Canadian troops used in the raid were very motivated, and their 
commanders had been clamoring for action, but they were green. Their 
lack of experience hampered their performance, despite high morale and 
numerous feats of courage throughout the entire force. More Canadian 
casualties occurred in this raid than on any other day of the war - 
including the fall of Hong Kong and the vicious campaign in the 
Scheldte estuary.

Jeff Johnson; .sig agnostic
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.history
Subject: Re: 50 Years Ago: Wednesday, 19 August, 1942
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:11:46 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

military@att.att.com (Bill Thacker) writes:


>Wednesday, 19 August, 1942

>A large amphibious raid is staged against Europe when 6,100 Canadian troops
>British commandos, and US Rangers, escorted by 30 tanks, land at Dieppe,
>France.  The force is pinned down on the beach and captures no important
>objectives, although the RAF downs 48 German aircraft destroyed over the
>area.  The destroyer Berkeley is badly damaged by German bombers and later
>is scuttled, and 33 landing craft are lost.  By noon, the raid is
>abandoned; over half the troops and all of their heavy equipment are left
>behind, and 98 British fighters are lost.  Fewer than 400 German troops
>are killed.

>"This is the first time the British have had the courtesy to cross the sea
>to offer the enemy a complete sample of their new weapons." - Adolf Hitler,
>commenting on the Dieppe Raid

Does anybody here know what the purpose of this raid was? It was an obvious 
suicide mission, but why? Were all the raiders volunteers?

fred

-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   
Newsgroups: soc.history
From: brian@odie.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)
Subject: Re: It's useless!
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:58:33 GMT

In article <86527@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>Multu's address with huge (written in binary cod, at best) messages?
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^
Gee there. Sorry I can't, There is a cod
moritoriam here in Nfld, so I guess I can't/:)
:) This is not a spelling flame {I can't spell]
It's just a little bit of humer thats all.
I wonder if his sys-admin would complain to our sys-admin
if we did this....
From: aicfc@castle.ed.ac.uk (Colin F. Caughie)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: America Online
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:26:01 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Edinburgh University

I have a friend who is on the "America Online" network (whatever that
is). He thinks it should be possible for me to send him Email from
here, but doesn't know what address to use -- he only knows his
username. 

Does anyone know how to send mail to and from this network, i.e. is
there an address that I could put after his username to reach him?

Thanks,

Colin Caughie
aicfc@castle.ed.ac.uk
From: mludwig@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU ("Michael S. Ludwig")
Subject: Tips on using soc.net-people [l.m. 27/04/92]
Expires: +2weeks
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:05:29 GMT

Soc.net-people is a newsgroup for various postings about particular people.
It is mostly used to look for old friends that you have lost track of, but
it can also be used for several other types of posts, like announcements of
personal events (e.g. an obituary or a class reunion) and queries for an
address (e-mail or otherwise) for a particular site.  Most of the time,
replies are done through e-mail, so if someone else posts a query for
information that you also would like, usually the best thing to do is e-mail
the person who made the query and ask that person to send you the
information that he/she gets.

If the phone number of the person or site that you are trying to get in
contact with would be good enough, you should consider calling directory
assistance first, which in the U.S. and Canada is 411 or 555-1212 within
your area code, (xxx)555-1212 to another area code; check the front of your
phone book to make sure that these numbers are correct for where you live.

If you will post to look for someone, or an address for a particular site,
then your best strategy is as suggested in a post from mid-February of 1991.
Dan Schneider asked people who had posted to this group looking for someone
to tell him if they were successful or not.  The results of Dan's "survey"
was as follows :

=> In nearly all successes, the seeker knew the name of the
=> organization or school where the seekee was located.
=> Apparently there is a fairly decent chance that *someone*
=> at the school or organization reads SNP religiously and will
=> assist by taking a minute out and fingering the lost person
=> or glancing in a directory.

Cary Timar responded that this meant people should put the name and last
known location of the person in the subject line, so that people who only
scan the subject lines of the articles can easily decide which to read and
which to junk.  Cary gave four examples :

=        Subject: Vanderbilt - Cary Timar
=        Subject: Vanderbilt - general
=        Subject: Nashville (I think): John Smith
=        Subject: Tennessee somewhere: John Smith

If you have a more general question, such as other tips that apply to
posting to any newsgroup or the meanings of certain abbreviations that often
appear in messages, you should read the newsgroup news.announce.newusers to
see if it is answered there before sending the question to soc.net-people or
another newsgroup.


Michael Ludwig
mludwig@bonnie.ics.uci.edu
From: treubert@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Brown U Alum - Cris Sales
Keywords: Brown U 1990 - Cris Sales
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:39:12 GMT
Reply-To: treubert@wharton.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: tamone@uni2a.unige.ch
Subject: Swap: Swiss Choclate STOP!!!
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:51:15 GMT

Thank you all for answering to my request for swapping swiss choclate for
cookies or Aloe*Gator sun block lotion. I can see by the number of answer
that there is an interest... But please do not mail me anymore. For now I got
more than enough poeple willing to aid and I cannot possibly send so much
choclate without beeing ruined but... I which I could.

Thanks again, this is wonderful to see so much answers.

Francois

P.S. If you missed the occasion, do not despair, maybe some other time I redo
my offer...or I can find other people here that would be interested.
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: lebrun@ll.mit.edu (Steven F. LeBrun)
Subject: Looking for David Messina
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:06:52 -0400

I am looking for an old friend that I have lost contact with.

David grew up on Winter St. Meuthen, MA.  We know each other from
from Explorer Scouts at Raytheon in the late 70's.  If anyone knows
David, please contact me by email.  Thanks.

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From: simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Stuyvesant HS (in NYC) alumni - starting e-mail directory
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:36:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

-- 
        Alumni of Stuyvesant HS of New York: e-mail stuy@panix.com
    if you wish to participate in compiling an alumni e-mail directory
---------  simona@panix.com    or    {apple,cmcl2}!panix!simona  ----------
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, though I do have an opinion on everything.
From: dianeb@orca.wv.tek.com (Diane Biernat)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Looking for a  classmate
Keywords: North High, Minneapolis, 1960
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:15:23 GMT
Reply-To: dianeb@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.,  Wilsonville, OR

I'm trying to locate a classmate, David Hermann, who graduated from
North High School in Minneapolis, MN in 1960.  If you know him, please
let me know how to contact him.  Thanks much!!
From: rabson@oxford.ac.uk (David Rabson)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: N Horton, J Park, M DesJardins... Harvard c81-85
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:05:01 GMT
Organization: Theoretical Physics, 1 Keble Road, Oxford, UK
Originator: rabson@black

I'm just curious to see if Kyle Cave, Nick "Nike" Horton, John Park, Marie
desJardins, Alix Sliva Vasilatos, Glen Dudek, Cathy Harris, Bob Walsh, and
crowd are still on the network.

David Rabson
Theoretical Physics, Oxford
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: king@meaddata.com (Mike King)
Subject: Looking for Lisa Sendek
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:13:18 GMT
Distribution: na

I'm looking for Lisa Sendek.  She graduated from the University of
Pittsburgh in 1986.  I think she lives and works in the New York City area.

-- 
Michael W. King     |  "I'm going to graduate on  |     (513) 865-1395   
Mead Data Central   |  time, no matter how long   |     CAPRR Conversion
P.O. Box 933        |  it takes"                  | mead!mwk@uccba.uc.edu
Dayton, Ohio  45401 |      -- Rod Brookin         |    ...!uccba!mead!mwk
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: tamone@uni2a.unige.ch
Subject: Swap: get swiss choclate
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:28:07 GMT

Hi,

I was missing a few thing the other day and my girl-friend gave me the idea
of a deal I could do over the net. I offer an exchange of postal goods. If
someone is interested in something I could get here and has one of the things
I want, then bingo. Why not send eachother what we want. It would be a good
surprise. I only hope this is legal, but I do not see why it would not since
nobody is earning money in exchanging little quantities of gifts.


Here is the deal:

I NEED:

1.

From the western states of the United States of America
(because it is my birthday), a pack or two of cookies named Taffy. they are
made by the brand called MOTHER'S, a bakery from Oakland in California.
You can find them in a Safeway or the like market place. And they are SOO good
diped in my cold choclate. I wrote to the company but they do not send their
cookies by post.

or
2.

From anywere in the US where the sun is hot, a sun block lotion named AloeGator
which has a Sun Protection Factor of 40. I want the big tube (about 10 $). I 
found one on Maui in the Hi-Tech shop. It is made resistant to water for the 
funboarders. I cannot find anything here that is in any way so conveniant: not
too smelly, not too greasy and you do not have to put one liter to be burned 
out anyway when you get home from you walk in the mountain.


I OFFER:

To send you as exchange, anything you would like from Switzerland or nearby
France that is about the same size and price. Like swiss choclate or...



If you are interested, answer me to my mail: tamone@cui.unige.ch

Hope this intereses someone.

Francois
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Looking for Barnaby Rockwell
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:11:29 GMT

   Barnaby is the grandson of the late Norman Rockwell.  We attended hs
together in the late 70's.  I suspect he's still on the north east coast.
Please email me if you've any information.



                                        Kris
From: scb@unssun.nevada.edu (Susan Bunyan)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Bruce Robinson - Farm Credit System
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:06:59 GMT
Reply-To: scb@unssun.nevada.edu (Susan Bunyan)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

Looking for Bruce Robinson.  We worked in Sacramento together for the
Farm Credit System in 1978.  I last saw him about 1983.  He had been
living in Brawley California.  He was just married and I think living
in Orange California.

Susan
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: rog@Ingres.COM (Roger Taranto)
Subject: Looking for a mailing address in Seattle
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Ingres, An ASK Company, Alameda, CA 94501
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:49:21 GMT

Could someone send me a USMail address for The Natural Meat Company
in Seattle?  All I have is Seattle, WA 98118.

Thanks,
-Roger
rog@ingres.com
From: treubert@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Maria Cristina "Cris" Sales
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:43:12 GMT
Reply-To: treubert@wharton.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi, I'm looking for Maria Cristina Sales.  Graduated from Brown
in December 1990.  Really into Asian theater.  Last was seen in Washington DC
but no info was available from Directory Assistance.  Any help would
be much appreciated.  You can all disregard the previous post regarding this
subject.

Thanks!
Liz Treubert

treubert@wharton.upenn.edu
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Doug Moore or Joe Warren at Rice CS Dept.
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:40:03 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


Looking for email address for Doug Moore or Joe Warren at the Rice U.
Computer Science Dept.  I don't have finger access here...

Would someone have their e-mail address handy, or could you get
it for me?

Thanks much,

BD
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: walter@m2xenix.psg.com (Walter Morales)
Subject: Looking for people
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 09:30:54 GMT


I hope this is the proper place to post this..
I am looking for these people for a friend:
David Eldredge
John McGegor
Marguerite Summers

I belive they are associated to and institution is Kansas.

Thank you,
Walter

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From: kalli@kerfi.hi.is (Karl Roth Karlsson)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Uruguay: Gabriella, born Tabacco
Summary: Want to find Gabriella Tabacco in Montevideo, Uruguay.
Keywords: Gabriella
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:53:42 GMT

I have lost the address of Gabriella <?> (born Tabacco) in
Montevideo, Uruguay.  She is married to Jesus <?> who runs
some computer firm in Montevideo.

Karl Roth Karlsson.
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: Philip G. Sells (k053730@hobbes.kzoo.edu)
Subject: Looking for T. L. Garside--Case Western?
Organization: none at the moment
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:58:01 GMT

Hi out there in netland,

I'm wondering what happened to Terri Garside, who, judging from the last
email address I had, has/had an account at Case Western Reserve Univ.
But please note that I could be wrong!  Last I heard from her was in
early April, I think.  Thanks for any help, in advance.
-- 
Philip Sells			Is anything too hard for the LORD?
k053730@hobbes.kzoo.edu			--Genesis 18:14
From: stevez@pogo.wv.tek.com (Stephen A Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Kinta (Kristin) Foss?
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:07:34 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

I'm looking for a friend from MIT, born Kristen Foss, from Delaware.  She
was graduated in EE or Computer Science around 1983...

Steve Zimmerman
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: shedevil@leland.Stanford.EDU (Anne P. Mitchell, JD)
Subject: Re: America Online
Reply-To: shedevil@gw.home.vix.com
Organization: Fathers' Rights & Equality Exchange
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:34:41 GMT




To send email to someone at America Online, do this:

username@aol.com


Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Subject: Looking for anyne in Niort France
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:30:32 GMT


I am lookin for anybody in (or near) Niort, France, that has email.

My niece left for France the other day to be an exchange student.
She was supposed to phone her parents when she arrived in France, but has not done so.  I do have a snail mail address, but now phone number.

If anybody in, or near Niort France has email, please email me.

thanks in advance
roland
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internet:     behunin@logdis1.oo.aflc.mil  au021@cleveland.freenet.edu
              behunin@ftp.nevada.edu
bitnet:       behunin@UMASS
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: carlinra@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Robert Carlin)
Subject: Russia: Leningrad Electrotechnical Institute
Followup-To: Lowell Jones (jonesld1@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu)
Summary: Is there an Internet/Bitnet/Anywhere connection?
Keywords: Leningrad Electrotechnical Institute, Russia, E-mail connections
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:41:24 GMT

Could someone please help me?  A friend of mine is trying to contact someone
who is attending the Leningrad Electrotechnical Institute in St. Petersburg,
Russia.  However, he doesn't know if:

	a) the L.E.I. is connected to the Internet (or Bitnet)
	b) the person has an E-mail account
	c) there is another possible contact in St. Petersburg

If you know of an E-mail address for the L.E.I., or of someone who can get in
touch with Annastasia or Alexei Novoseltev (sp?), please contact

	Lowell Jones
	jonesld1@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu

If the mail bounces, please reply to me, and I will get in touch with Lowell.

Thanks very much for your help!

							Rob Carlin



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