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From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Subject: Re: Stanford Bowl-bound
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:42:51 GMT

In article <aelman.722160665@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:

[Good advice regarding the woofing gods deleted.]

>Keep in mind that in '86, the last time Cal won Big Game, we were
>Gator Bowl-bound, and they were 2-8 or something like that.

Acutally, the Bears were 1-9.  This was the last game of the
Joe-Zipper-No-Red-Ties-In-Press-Conferences-Kapp era.  The Cal student
section has a cheer that gets hauled out after particularly crucial
first downs (which lately includes all of them):

"First and ten, do it again, GO! BEARS!"

That year, before the Big Game, in a full stadium, the Cal students
welcomed the home-town-Bears to the field with a lovely variant of the
above cheer:

"One and ten, do it again, JOE! KAPP!"

Since the old bastard *never* did what we wanted him too ("What,
*another* short side sweep?"), he went and got the team so fired up
that they won the game.

>P.S. Not that I don't think we're going to win on Saturday. :-) :-)
>BEAT CAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C'mon, Adam.  *no* *one* actually'd believe that you'd anti-woof your
own team.  And the smileys are a dead giveaway to the woof gods.  My
prediction?  Cal will be driving toward the goal line, down by 5, with
four seconds to go.  Russell up the middle.  He breaks free.  He's
going to score!

Just then, the Big One that we've all been waiting for will hit.
California Memorial Stadium is built directly on top of the Hayward
Fault.  The designers of the stadium knew this, so they build a
"hinged" stadium -- it's designed to split in two if the fault below
it lets loose with a big one.  Well, being good Cal Engineers, the
design will work perfectly.  The unhinging of the staduim will
preserve the lives of all present.  But, Russell will get his foot
caught in the seam in the Astro(ick)Turf that is created when the
stadium splits asunder.  The Stanford defender chasing White will be
thrown into his now-immobilized form, tackling him.  Just as time
runs out.  The Evil Red Hoard wins again.

And I *told* the Mens' Athletic Department that they really ought to
put in grass...

Go Bears! Beat the Cardinal!

Brian
  - It's in Berkeley, at least it'll be weird.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:22:25


Gary Lowery writes:

> Hey OSU fans,  hype it up all you want, you still haven't beaten Michigan
> in 5 tries.  That's right 0-4-1.  When was your last Rose bowl appearance?

fair enough.  But we're getting better & the tone of your post indicates you
know it and are scared.


> You guys choke every year.

as opposed to Michigan who has such a stellar record in the Rose Bowl.  If
anyone choked this year pal, it was you guys.  OSU improved as the season
went on.  Michigan got worse.


> Next year it is in Ann Arbor.  We will win that one also.

we'll see.


> Can your coach.  He's out of there.

what do you care?  If he's so terrible, I'd think you'd want him back.  No,
you know he's a good coach who's building the team and your scared.


>  OSU still sucks!  Get back down to earth.

what class.  Come away with a tie & insult the other team.


> A tie still means MICHIGAN is unbeaten in its last 5 games
> against OSU.  The streak goes on......

blah blah blah...


Congrats to Michigan on a fine season and good luck in the Rose Bowl.  You
surely don't deserve "fans" like this guy.

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From: kenn@cpqhou.compaq.com (Ken Nicholas)
Subject: BYU Info needed
Reply-To: kenn@cpqhou.UUCP (Ken Nicholas)
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:34:40 GMT

What is the status of Ryan Hancock?  Will he be ready for the bowl
game?

It appeared that there was a shouting match between Tom Young and
Robbie Bosco on the sidelines after an unsuccessful 3rd down
play.  What happened?

What is the status of K. Hall?


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From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Subject: Re: Big 8 Bowl paranoia
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:30:53 GMT

--
>>Don't kid yourself. CU is not there YET. I did say "YET" not so don't jump all
>>over me. If they got spanked, no thrashed and severely punished, 52-7 vs NU
>>then how do you think they will do against ND or Syracuse? CU has only played
<>one legit top-10 team this year and they were severely exposed. If NU had not
>>been upset (and it was a major upset and you know who you are) then the >Huskers
>>would be top-5 right now. By far the best team CU played.
>>
>>If I were you I would hope CU does not go to the Orange bowl. They would only
>>be exposed again. They will be better next year though.

>While I am not trying to find a reason for CU's loss to NU, I might point out
>that NU isn't that hot this year, either. Tell me a good team NU has
>beaten on the road? They play great football at home, but they are suspect
>on road. Also, CU offense is playing much better now that Stewart is the
>QB. Now don't tell me that a good QB doesn't matter much, esp with a 
>passing offense like CU's. Also, the OL seemed to have stabilized
>recently.. they had pretty good running game against both KU and ISU.
>So I wouldn't be too surprised if CU wins the bowl games.

>About them being good next year, you bet they will.. Almost all the
>offense is returning!

>>OU is toast friday.

>Let's hope for the best :)

Uhh, Njan, sorry guy but you left one little factor out of the equation:

	KU and ISU are no Miami, FSU, or Alabama

Sorry but that blows your theory totally out of the water. About all I can
say is that the enthusiasm you have for your team is commendable.

Huskers by 14 or more Friday. I just hope I'm not having a post Thanksgiving
Crow dinner. Remember I did say that if the weather is bad then ALL bets are
off.  ;^)

Husker Henderson
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Newsgroups: osu.sports,rec.sport.football.college
From: brown-d@tun.cis.ohio-state.edu (david wayne brown)
Subject: Re: no respect for tOSU
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.132620.9158@cis.ohio-state.edu> atchison@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes:
>What's wrong with this picture?????
<Stuff Deleted>
>Here's hoping our 45-10 blowout of Alabama (64-6 if Florida gets in) on New
>Year's Day will vault us all the way to 11th!  Sheesh!
>Ranked 8 spots below a team that we're (right now) at least as good as?!?

I don't think well blow out Bama by that Much, but we will certainly kick the 
Gators all the way back to Gainesville.

>And while I'm at it, how about the classy whine-job by Moeller in the postgame?
>
>Crying about the wet field?  Didn't we play on the same one?  Moaning about
>crowd noise (which was awesome -- the loudest I've heard in the last 40 or so
>games in the 'shoe)?  Sure it was loud, but you come out looking pretty silly
>when your quarterback tells the press that it wasn't a factor.

My favorite line was when he said if weather conditions would have been better 
he could have thrown thge ball more. Meanwhile we throw 48 times for 270+ 
yards!  Grow up Mo.
What do you people think of Coops chances for coming back next year?  I hope he
comes back, you can't keep changing coaches and not expect it to hurt in
recruiting.  Coop has shown he has the players and the staff to beat Michigan
and next year he'll do it.

>-- 
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From: elsonliu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Liu)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 HYPE
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 21:37:17 GMT

It was definitely an interesting Saturday this week.  Arizona upset by USC,
Washington St. upset by Stanford, Washington crushing Oregon St.  It seems
like there are a five strong teams in the conference this year - Washington,
Stanford, USC, Washington St., Arizona.  No MNC contenders, but methinks any
could be spoilers for such contenders...

.....Elson.....

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.baseball.college
From: dasmith@fine.princeton.edu (Derek Smith)
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Keywords: tiguzz
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:02:39 GMT

speaking of triple plays, michigan state is the only school to have ever
won a national championship in football, a national championship in
basketball, and had the highest scoring team on the William Lowell Putnam
mathematics contest.  so says a prof.
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:12:17 GMT

mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:

        > Mark Mitchell writes:
>> Matt Shostak wrote:
>>}                    ND usually gets a very ugly reception down south, which
>>}has soured many ND alums from ever wanting to play there again.  
>>
>>Can you elaborate on this?  Did Notre Dame get a "very ugly reception"
>>in Birmingham, AL or Clemson, SC or Baton Rouge, LA or Jackson, MS or
>>at any other place they have played "down south" in recent memory?
>>Or are you really just talking about Miami, which is hardly representative
>>of the south?

>I don't know about every time they've played in the South.  Of course, the
>last few times in Miami were very ugly for the fans.  They were literally
>afraid for their safety.  There was an incident at Georgia Tech, but I
>don't know when exactly, maybe under Devine?  Maybe Pat Fleming or someone
>else knowledgeable about ND knows more about southern hospitality for ND?

Matt - I went to the 1990 game at Notre Dame (vs Miami) and have posted
previously how people were generally nice and I had a great time.

But I do feel that you are a little jaded by painting a picture of how bad 
it is in Miami (or the South as you called it) without allowing for some
of the past sins at Notre Dame. You need to go back and read accounts
of what the people in South Bend did to Coach Devine to run him out
of town. The St. Louis Post Dispatch carried a series of articles that 
stated things like trash being dumped many times on the Devines lawn.
His wife getting death threats every night from 2am on until they left
the phone off the hook etc. 

Hey , I personally hope Notre Dame never comes back to Miami to play.
But that's just because I don't want to hear all the shit and I feel 
there are a lot of other teams that Miami hasn't played yet that I
would like to see.

I respect the great history of College Football at Notre Dame but just
feel that the Lou Holtz years have dragged it down a bunch. When they get
rid of him I'll probably start thinking an occasional game with Notre Dame
would be good again. 

Justin Frederich
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: Notre Dame in the South
Organization: ^$
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:21:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.163230.24843@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>Mark Mitchell writes:
>
>>Can you elaborate on this?  Did Notre Dame get a "very ugly reception"
>>in Birmingham, AL or Clemson, SC or Baton Rouge, LA or Jackson, MS or
>>at any other place they have played "down south" in recent memory?
>>Or are you really just talking about Miami, which is hardly representative
>>of the south?
>
>On a recent trip to Notre Dame (to watch hockey) I asked a new professor what 
>she thought made the student body (at Saint Mary's, not Notre Dame) different 
>from other places she has taught.  She said, "Pat, maybe you haven't noticed, 
>but they're Catholic!"
>
>I think this has something to do with the strong dislike which follows Notre 
>dame in the South.  When I was a student under the dome, the Irish were not  
>at all well recieved for their game vs. LSU.  
 
 This is totally ridiculous, considering Louisiana is about as Catholic as
you get in the South. If you weren't well received in Tiger Stadium, it was
because you're from Notre Dame, not because you're Catholic.


>I also have been informed (from a 
>friend who is an alumnus of Alabama-Birmingham) that there is still a great 
>deal of ill feeling revolving around a certain Orange Bowl victory in 1974 and 
>a national championship in 1977.  I can't imagine what he means! :-)
>
>I haven't heard as many ugly stories from venues in the South as I have heard 
>from games played in the Orange Bowl.  In fact, I have heard worse things about
>games played at Pitt!
>
>     - Pat
>-- 
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>- Ohio Wesleyan University ---------- Heading south as the waters grow colder -
>- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ------------------------------------------


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peavy@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (R. Marshall Peavy)
Subject: Non-Conf records
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:57:54 GMT

Does anyone out there have overall Non-Conf records for the PAC-10 and the
BIG-10?  

I have a feeling that this stat would really show how bad the Big-10 is and
how tough the PAC-10 is.  Might also explain why my Cougs have every right
to be in a bowl (aside $$$) and why Iowa should be at home for the holidays.

Marshall
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Bayou Classic?
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:02:57 GMT

I was trying to spend some time in New Orleans during Thanksgiving not
thinking it would be a "Hot Spot" for a mini-vacation at this time of
year.  So in trying to get hotel reservations they tell me that
Thanksgiving Weekend is the Bayou Classic.  All I was able to find out
is it is a college football game.  Does anyone have more details on it?
Who is involved, etc.?

THANKS!
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From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Michigan Wolveweeinies #7???
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:46:40 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor


I wish the one who think like this gentleman would take extra caution when you
go home tonite.  The woofing God may have some 10000 giga eV for you...


In article <1992Nov23.144611.17198@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>Can anyone explain to me why in the world Michigan is still ranked #7?

No.  I am completely surprised this morning.  Not only Michigan is ranked #7,
but Washington is ranked #11.  I think it's quite ridiculous.  Ohio State is
ranked #15 (previously #14).  This is weird.

I do not quite consider as bias, however.  I think this week's voters may find
something good about Ohio State and Michigan.  I'd rank Michigan #9 or #10,
and Ohio State #14.

Also, you must also aware that Michigan, thought unimpressive in the last
month, is still unbeaten.  And the tie against OSU tie is more explainable 
than that against Illinois.

For those who still claims there is bias toward Big Ten teams.  Look at
Florida, Syracuse and FSU's rankings.  The Syracuse's ranking is very very
justified in particular.

>	So the Rose Bowl will be between a sliding Michigan team and a sliding
>Washington team. That sure really capture the attention of the nation. 
>-- 

Actually, the Rose Bowl may be very very interesting to watch, after all.
Consider a team who got humilated in a snowstorm, and the other struggles to
be unbeaten.  Without the burden of chasing for MNC, I'd guess they will play
more openly and aggressively, since they have nothing to lose any more.
(except the Rose Bowl rings, of course)

Just my 2 cents.
From: mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu (Mark (MacBear) McConnell)
Subject: Nebraska Wheel Cover wanted
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:20:42 MDT

Does anyone know where I can get wheel cover for a Jeep
that says "Nebraska Cornhuskers" on it?

Thanks for any help, in advance.

-- 
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mamcconnell@uccs.edu         | not so often they are wrong as they are
mamcconne@colospgs.BITnet    | answering another question.  The job is
                             | to find out what question they are, in 
                             | fact, answering.             David Page
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:03:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.143609.14103@lgc.com> mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>In article <gf1Q5tO00iV384SUkn@andrew.cmu.edu> wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Karamo Motley) writes:
>>Who saw that Notre Dame game today?  I think that the NCAA should either
>>be much, much more lenient when they call that excessive celebration
>>penalty, or get rid of that call completely.  When you win in the type
>>of manner Notre Dame did today, you have every right to go beserk and
>>act bananas.  For Christ's sake, they're college kids.  Even pros
>>celebrate.  Remember when the Colts beat the Dolphins this year?  
>>
>>Will
>
>An absolutely ludicrous call by the refs.  It almost seemed like they
>wanted to give Penn State the advantage.  After Paterno complained in 
>the first quarter, did they call any other penalties on PSU?  Were there
>any holding calls?
>

Nope, I'm sure the refs saw the clip of Holtz headlocking them two weeks
ago and were afraid of what wrestling holds an angry, arm-flinging JoePa
would try.  :)

Great game, end of a great 12 years with PSU winning 8 out of 12
which concludes the overall series record at 8-8-1.


John L

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From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee)
Subject: Oklahoma troubles?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:15:42 GMT

The Daily Karma, oops, Camera, had a big article in Wednesday's paper (I think)
saying that members of the OU football team walked out on Gibbs on his 
decision of playing Gundy all the way in the 15-15 tie to OSU.

Details? Info? Anything?

-- 
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From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: CFPOOL: Week #11 Results
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:47:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) writes:
>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
>|        Score This Week          |     Year To Date        | Entrant         |
>|  score  | percentage |by thirds |   score  | percentage   |    Name         |
>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
>|  823.49 | 14/18  77% | 05-05-04 |  5631.54 | 100/179  55% | *Marsee System  |
>|  739.24 | 12/18  66% | 05-03-04 |  6685.79 | 111/197  56% | *Schmidt System |
>|  676.38 | 11/18  61% | 05-03-03 |  6616.08 | 112/197  56% | *Gupta System   |
>|  603.87 | 11/18  61% | 03-04-04 |  6443.32 | 108/197  54% | *Dendy System   |
>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
												 ^^^^^^^^^
Congrats to Marsee for his very good score this week.  However, with my
good score I have opened up a small lead over Gupta and am the leading
system from the net.  WOOF.

Kevin
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From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
Organization: CAD-Research, U. of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:42:23 GMT

From article <1992Nov16.122940.5631@desire.wright.edu>, by demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man):
> 	Rose Bowl: Michigan (maybe they'll even win :)
> 	Citrus Bowl: Ohio State
> 	Holiday Bowl: Michigan State or Illinois
			
			I don't see how you could think Illinois 
			has an honest chance at this.  If they win
			Iowa will have to lose to Minnesota, which
			is not hard this year.  But I guess Iowa has
			had problems with them before.

		Go HAWKS!!
		(and Illinois to)
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From: atchison@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:53:54 GMT

In article <1epjveINNt6@agate.berkeley.edu> cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               ) writes:
>If a passing game of 28 of 34 for 271 yards and 1 TD is 2nd best in OSU
>history, it well says about the potent passing attack of the Buckeyes.

First of all, it was 28 of 46 for 271 yards and 1 TD.  It was "2nd best" only
in the number of attempts and completions.  Ohio State has cranked out some
pretty decent throwers in recent years.  Jim Karsatos with a career percentage
of something like 61%.  Mike Tomczak who threw for over 2,000 yards 3 straight
years.  Art Schlichter, snubbed in the '81 Heisman race, who holds most OSU
passing records, including the game which Herbstreit finished second to.
31 of 52 for 458 yards against Florida State.  Ohio State has had several games
where the above mentioned QB's (and Greg Frey, also) have thrown for more than
300 yards.

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_______________________________________________________________________________
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		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...