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From: dbowman@warp (Don A. Bowman)
Subject: Re: FREE worldwide network access in Canada??
Followup-To: alt.internet.services,can.general
Reply-To: dbowman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: Don
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:25:48 GMT

Mike Plante (plante@spang.Camosun.BC.CA) wrote:
: In article <g1P5TB1w165w@cithara.uucp> william@cithara.uucp (William Ross) writes:
: >twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
: >
: >> 
: >> Hello all. I just got an email from someone I used to know on a local
: >> BBS who said that he just heard about a service that will be starting up
: >> in Canada called "Free Net". It's supposed to give "anyone with a
: >> computer and a modem" "free worldwide network access and services".... 
: >> by this I take it means internet access. Supposedly, the government and
: >> private industry is putting up 200 grands to get this going and it's
: >
: >Hmmm, That sounds good, though I wonder what the folks at Performance
: >Systems would have to say?  Just got off the telephone with my
: >brother-in-law in B.C and he remarked that virtually everything on the
: >West Coast, bbs and usenet wize, is a pay as you go thing, a sad state of
: >affairs indeed. I'd certaily like to know more about *Freenet* comming
: >to Canada and is it connected with the Freenet organization that
: >operates out of Cleveland in the good ol U.S.A?
: >
: >
: 
: The Victoria Freenet Association will be having their official opening on
: November 17th. The system is currently running and being setup. It's a
: SPARCstation-2 (donated by Sun Canada) and currently housed by Camosun
: College, and uses their Internet connection. The Freenet will offer free
: e-mail to the Internet and Usenet access. Other services are planned and
: will be incorporated into the user menu system.
: 
: For more information on the Victoria Freenet send e-mail to:
: 

The Ottawa-Carelton freenet is starting up now, on a sparc-10. Telnet to 
freenet.carleton.ca and login as guest for more information.

--
Don Bowman                (519) 744-6154     dbowman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: davidsen@vienna.hh.lib.umich.edu (Sue Davidsen)
Subject: Re: ERIC
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:14:05 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Reply-To: Patent info on the net
Distribution: alt.internet.services

In article <1992Nov16.170743.11126@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>  
ts@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Ruschak) writes:
> Does anyone know anything about ERIC? Apparently (my girlfriend tells
> me), it is/was a thing at the University of Colorado, dealing with  
>Composition research? From what she says, they recently pw protected it  
>so that it could no longer be accessed, and she wanted me to find out if  
>it was anywhere else, etc.. Basically any information would be nice!

ERIC is one of two major indexes in the field of education. It is produced  
by the Educational Resources Information Center (ERIC) under the auspices  
of the US Department of Education. Up until a few weeks ago it was  
available through CARL (the Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries),  
however, now you must be a registered user on CARL to access it. Most of  
us would have to pay for access to this service. 

There are some gopher sites that have the ERIC digest available (a  
"condensed" version of some Research In Education reports which are  
indexed in ERIC), but no one has the actual database on the Internet at  
this time. If you're at Purdue, I'd bet my NeXT that your library has a  
subscription to ERIC -- probably even in CD-ROM. 

Sue Davidsen
Information Technology Librarian
M-Link Project
The University of Michigan
davidsen@umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: roman@shell.portal.com (Roman - Kazan)
Subject: Telnet Systems
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:17:51 GMT

Are there any systems located on telnet (simular to archie) that has a         
n Encyopydia data base online..  Or any other kind of research data bases?
	A few Friends were asking me this... It would be if one did exist.

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: ts@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Ruschak)
Subject: ERIC??? English Research in Composition? Anyone know it?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:07:43 GMT

	Does anyone know anything about ERIC? Apparently (my girlfriend tells
me), it is/was a thing at the University of Colorado, dealing with Composition
research? From what she says, they recently pw protected it so that it could
no longer be accessed, and she wanted me to find out if it was anywhere else,
etc.. Basically any information would be nice!

	Thanks in advance!

Tom
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: prifkin@netcom.com (Peter Rifkin)
Subject: Re: cc mail
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: alt.internet.services
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:41:36 GMT

dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy) writes:
: In article <1992Nov12.195217.5575@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, merklin@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ed Kemo) writes...
: %Does anyone know how to mail people who use cc mail?
: From the Internet side, any SMTP gateway should appear as a host, with
: the cc:Mail userid as the username:
: 
:   ccmail_userid@ccmail_smtp_gateway.domain
: 
: in other words, there is no 'set' way to address a cc:Mail user that is
: different from any other internet host.

The main point is that cc:Mail REQUIRES a LOTUS cc:Mail gateway.

We use cc:Mail at the office (actualy only some people do, some people
refused to use it...) and use a PC/DOS based gateway to transfer mail
between cc:Mail and SMTP (UNIX) mail.  The gateway is single threaded and
crashes frequently.  


Peter Rifkin
prifkin@netcom.com
- This is my PERSONAL account and I DO speak for myself -
From: katiyar@prl.dec.com (Dinesh Katiyar)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: "who's who" service?
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:13:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory

is there any on-line analog of "who's who" somewhere?

thanks,

dinesh
From: dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu (Dave Grabowski (KxiK))
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Telnet or Internet address for Drew University.
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:51:55 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1echl2INNlb5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs527@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nick Rerwick) writes:
>
>I need to telnet to Drew University and I don't have the telnet
>address.  If anyone know how I can obtain this info please let me know.
>I've been looking for a while now and can't seem to find it.
>It can be either numeric or alphabet code...Thanks for your time.
>
>Fdx
>-- 

  Try drew.drew.edu.

-Dave
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From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass)
Subject: Number of computers on the Internet
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:43:11 GMT

Does anyone know of an Internet source where I can get up-to-date stats about
the number of computers and users on the Internet?

The most recent estimate I have right now is that "nearly one million" 
computers were connected to the Internet at the end of July 1992, up from
"about 730,000" in January 1992 (source: April Streeter, How to Get your 
Company on Internet.  MacWEEK, Vol 6, No. 36, 12th October 1992, p.22).  Given 
the explosive growth of the Internet between January and July, the number of
computers must be well past one million by now!

Thanks for your help,

- Dan Fass
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Number of computers on the Internet
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:08:35 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <1992Nov22.004311.27991@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) writes:
>Does anyone know of an Internet source where I can get up-to-date stats about
>the number of computers and users on the Internet?
>
>The most recent estimate I have right now is that "nearly one million" 
>computers were connected to the Internet at the end of July 1992, up from
>"about 730,000" in January 1992 (source: April Streeter, How to Get your 
>Company on Internet.  MacWEEK, Vol 6, No. 36, 12th October 1992, p.22).  Given 
>the explosive growth of the Internet between January and July, the number of
>computers must be well past one million by now!
>
Although it is hard to estimate the number of computers on the connected
net (the main problem is what counts? anywhere you can send email to?
ip packets?), but I was told by someone who at least looked authoritative
that there are 1.3 million hosts, as of October, with a doubling time that
is between 6 and 7 months.

"Buy optic futures"
jem.


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From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Mailing list for MS-DOS file upload announcements
Summary: SIMTEL20 and Garbo upload announcements
Keywords: simtel20,garbo,msdos,uploads,announcements
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Followup-To: poster
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives

MSDOS-Ann@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil is a ONE-WAY (moderated) mailing list
which is used by the Internet MS-DOS archive managers to announce new
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To subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from,
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Congress email addresses?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:38:32 GMT

In <1992Nov17.165015.22049@bradley.bradley.edu> stone@bradley.bradley.edu (Steve Stone) writes:

>In <1992Nov17.052333.13654@gallant.apple.com> kiddyr@gallant.apple.com (Ray Kiddy) writes:

>>joeallen@usc.edu (Joe Allen) writes:

>>>Anyone know how to mail to specific members of congress or senate?
>>>Is there a list of such addresses anywhere?

>>would that our representative were so aware of modern technology. 
> [text deleted]
>>we will see - ray, ray@ganymede.apple.com
>>
>Another problem is that of access. One of the main reasons that the
>postal service was set up was so that everyone would have affordable
>access to their representatives. There are some that would say that
>giving reps Internet accounts would be just another example of welfare
>for the rich. The people with email accounts would have better, faster,
>more prolific access to their reps than non-email people. This would
>be discrimination based on network access.

>So, reps won't have email addresses until the 'net is as easy to
>access and use as the postal service. So, let's get busy and make
>NREN, et. al. accessible and useable by all.

>--insert favorite disclaimer here--

> 
>-- 
>Steven A. Stone 			Bradley University  
>Electronic Services Librarian		Peoria, Illinois 61625
>stone@bradley.bradley.edu 		(309) 677-2839 

This is the point at which we should ask ourselves:
Do we really want these assholes to screw up the net like they have the rest
of society?  I'd rather have them remain ignorant to this bit (no pun intended)
of freedom...
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From: at887@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: electronic post office (e-mail to us-mail conversion)?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:35:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: at887@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Butler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, backon@vms.huji.ac.il () says:

>
>
>MCIMail has such a service. You type your letter on email and the "letter" is
>physically delivered to a postal mail address. I think that next day delivery
>costs $2 and same day delivery cost $5 (??).
>
>Josh
>backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
>
Compu$erve also offers this service at a similar price (at least they did
three years ago when I had an account thru work....)

-- 

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,can.general
From: plante@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Mike Plante)
Subject: Re: FREE worldwide network access in Canada??
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 09:00:12 GMT

In article <g1P5TB1w165w@cithara.uucp> william@cithara.uucp (William Ross) writes:
>twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>
>> 
>> Hello all. I just got an email from someone I used to know on a local
>> BBS who said that he just heard about a service that will be starting up
>> in Canada called "Free Net". It's supposed to give "anyone with a
>> computer and a modem" "free worldwide network access and services".... 
>> by this I take it means internet access. Supposedly, the government and
>> private industry is putting up 200 grands to get this going and it's
>
>Hmmm, That sounds good, though I wonder what the folks at Performance
>Systems would have to say?  Just got off the telephone with my
>brother-in-law in B.C and he remarked that virtually everything on the
>West Coast, bbs and usenet wize, is a pay as you go thing, a sad state of
>affairs indeed. I'd certaily like to know more about *Freenet* comming
>to Canada and is it connected with the Freenet organization that
>operates out of Cleveland in the good ol U.S.A?
>
>

The Victoria Freenet Association will be having their official opening on
November 17th. The system is currently running and being setup. It's a
SPARCstation-2 (donated by Sun Canada) and currently housed by Camosun
College, and uses their Internet connection. The Freenet will offer free
e-mail to the Internet and Usenet access. Other services are planned and
will be incorporated into the user menu system.

For more information on the Victoria Freenet send e-mail to:

           vifa@freenet.victoria.bc.ca


--Mike

Mike Plante, Systems/Network Services,
Camosun College
plante@camosun.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: pse533@siemens.co.at (Kurt Mayr)
Subject: Re: Satellite Weather Pictures
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:10:47 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (Pete French) writes:

>>UK/European/world pictures ar available on cumulus.met.ed.ac.uk in images/gifs
>>They are updated daily.

>Where can we get these images for North America?
They're at vmd.cso.uiuc.edu. I can't remember the name of the directory that
they are in now, but it was phil.515 and this directory contains an EBCDIC 
file specifying where the new directory is. (dd will do EBCDIC to ASCII 
conversion).

Alexis (alexis@liska.ext.uniba.cs)

PS Anyone know where the Hubble gifs are ???
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Poetry online.....
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Nov20.124715.3396@maths.tcd.ie>
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:02:14

The newsgroup rec.arts.poems gets about 50 new poems per day, some better
than others.
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From: ernie@aquarium.Buffalo.NY.US (Ernest J. Gainey III)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: TALK
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:14:29 GMT
 <MAPPLER.92Nov15211149@titan.ucc.umass.edu>
Organization: Private UUCP Node
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <MAPPLER.92Nov15211149@titan.ucc.umass.edu>, Matthew A Appler writes:

> Well, for some there is no option, as telnet is the only way to enter
> some accounts.  What is the reasoning behind losing ones account for
> allowing someone else access?  The gain access only to your accuont,
> and you are responsible for waht occurs with your account.  I'm not
> flaming, >I'm just curious about the reasoning behind this.
>

The reasoning? Well... 1st, you don't belong on the remote system ;-)

Lets see... Technically, logging into another computer and using someone
elses account is theft of services... if you don't have an account yourself
on that system, your not authorized to be there.. and therefore are
'stealing'... and if they wanted to be jerks, could try to sue you
or even put you in jail... [note: this is from personal experience *frown*]

;-)

Therefore, the moral is... don't share your account/password with someone...
if you let someone use your own, or are using someone elses, theft is
being commited ;-)
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Electronic Magazines available?
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:23:04 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service

The Scholarly Communications Project of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and  
State University publishes and provides access to the following scholarly  
electronic journals:

"E-Name"	"Title"
CATALYST	The Community Services CATALYST
JFE		Journal of Fluids Engineering (Raw Research Data)
JTE		Journal of Technology Education
JIAHR		Journal of the International Association of Hospitality 
		Research
MODAL		Modal Analysis (Abstracts and Page Images)

Most data is available in three ways: FTP, WAIS or LISTSERV.
- FTP site is borg.lib.vt.edu
- WAIS sources are available from the directory-of-servers, or from   
  borg.lib.vt.edu in /pub/WAIS/sources.
- Listservs are CATALYST, JTE-L, JIAHR-L, and MODAL.  Subscribe by sending
  mail to listserv@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu.
  
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James Powell >>> Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
             >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU 
	     >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
	     >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic
	     >>> Journals
From: psr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul S Randal)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Communications of the ACM
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:15:00 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

Hi,
Firstly, thanks to all those who replied to my computer crime request :-)
Now, Does anyone know where the archive sites are for the following groups:
1) The ACM (whatever it is), specifically 'Communications of the ACM'
2) CRYPTO, specifically 'CRYPTO Proceedings'
3) USENIX UNIX Security Workshop
4) National Computer Security Conference

I've tried my local archie server but to no avail.
Also does anyone know if its possible to get articles from the New York
Post (??) and Boston Herald (??) on-line ??

Cheers,

Paul.

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From: mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel)
Subject: Re: Number of computers on the Internet
Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:58:35 GMT

     Counting the number of machines on the Internet by doing some sort
of name count is likely to yield a slight overestimate.  Every machine at
the University of Toronto has two legal names (machine.dept.utoronto.ca
and machine.dept.toronto.edu); there are historical reasons for this and
I know that we are not the only campus engaging in this sort of shenanigan.
I have no idea of how large an impact this would have on the numbers, and
since new machines are being connected all the time, perhaps the
estimate yielded will be low anyway.
     In any event, it's an interesting problem.

				Marc R. Roussel
                                mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
From: cc935@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerrold T. Sithe)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Anonymous UUCP available on Internet?
Date: 21 Nov 1992 17:35:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: cc935@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	I know about accessible NNTP servers.  But what about UUCP.
Is anonymous UUCP of Usenet available via Telnet anywhere on the
Internet?
From: swssauby@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Michael Saunby)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Snail mail address for Queen of England?
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:28:51 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

croley@r2d2.mcc.com (David Croley) writes:

>I am trying to locate the normal postal address for the Queen (of England). 
>Anyone over there have any ideas.  I recently saw the BBC special on her.
>Heard her house (Windsor Castle) is on fire this a.m. :( 

England (Well the UK in fact) has only one Queen.  So
	"The Queen,  ENGLAND"
Would do fine.  Our postal service is "The Royal Mail", so no problems with letters
to the Queen.

This mornings news said it could take upto 10 years to rebuild Windsor Castle, the
Queens weekend residence. 
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>croley@mcc.com  | Univ. of Texas at Austin - MCC - Experimental Systems Lab
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