HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce Jackson(sysadm))
Subject: Even worse story (sad but true)
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:26:02 GMT


In article <1992Apr14.222017.15544@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> canderso@isis.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson) writes:
>There is an article in the most recent (April 1992) issue of Discover
>magazine about an injury that a cyclist received in a bicycle-bicycle
>crash that occurred on a bike path.  It's a two page article which I read
>in its entirety while in the grocery store.

I can beat this story.  As before this is not for the squemish.  Remember
kids handlebar ends need to be covered.

(Names changed to protect the innocent)
One of the fastest riders on my team was a rider I'll call Bart.  Bart was
fast, had a good sprint, and trained alot.  However, one day changed his
racing career forever.

This was one of those criteriums that was poorly put together, had crappy
prizes, and was a long way away but we went anyway (it was the only race
that weekend).  2/3's through the race a big crash took down most of the
lead pack.  Not only did Bart go down but he was impaled by another riders
handlebar.  The bar riped through Bart's shorts and invaded him.  We took
Bart home. We had riders go in other cars so that Bart could have the
whole back seat to himself and lay on his stomach.  By the time we got home
Bart said that he was in a world of hurt and had to go to the hospital.
At the hospital they stiched up Bart's anus and gave him drugs to prevent
him from having a bowel movement until he could heal a bit.

Bart later started training again; he got fast and decided to start
racing again.  Unfortunately, every race he went to he ended up backing
out.  He sould say that he didn't feel well, or didn't feel like racing.
We all understood and didn't think any less of Bart.  It was kind of a
shame that he could no longer enjoy the thril of competition because of
a freak accident.

       Bruce Jackson, UNIX Sysadm    | jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu
       Univ. of N. Tx, Comp Sci Dept.| jackson@gab.csci.unt.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: ibe@world.std.com (ira b ekhaus)
Subject: checking out used bicycles
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:35:30 GMT

hi,
I'm going to be shopping around for a used racing bike soon,
and I'm looking for quick/easy and RELIABLE ways to judge 
a bike's condition.
(ie crank wobble, condition of braze joints, etc...)
Is there a FAQ or a good book people can recommend?

thanks,
ira
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: border@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Ryan A. Border)
Subject: Re: What is the best, lightest MTB seatpost?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 16:39:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.164525.18773@lotus.com> jeffa@janderholm.lotus.com writes:
>I'm gradually cleaning some of the heavier stock parts off my Giant ATX.  Can  
>anyone recommend a strong and light seatpost?

1) Ritchey Force Directional Seat-Post,  330mm,  245g,    $64.50  (Nashbar)
2) AeroSport Carbon Ultra-Light Post,    300mm,  265g,    $99.88  (Branford)
3) Kingsbery Titanium Seat-Post          350mm,  210g,   $119.88  (Branford)
4) Sakae Tall Cool One                   350mm,  290g,    $22.90  (Performance)
5) Suntour XC-Pro Seat Post              300mm,  290g,    $44.20  (Performance)
6) Campagnolo Centaur                    350mm,  360g!    $39.99  (Performance)

Hope this is what you are looking for-
Ryan.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Re: Clincher tire opinions sought
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:19:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.211922.4576@news.unomaha.edu>
KKRUEGER@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Kurt R. Krueger) is tire-ing: 
>I just bought a Colnago Conic frame, ...

>I would like some recommendations on: tires,

Continental Grand Prix or SuperSport ULTRAs.
following is a spec chart I archived

Article: 26712 of rec.bicycles
From: brad@cup.portal.com (Paul B Anders)
Subject: Continental Tire Specs / Clinchers vs. Tubulars
Date: 19 Jul 91 18:12:18 GMT

Got a Continental tire catalog from a store the other day. Some interesting 
info on the GP and the SuperSports :

Type		Size (mm)	Bead	Weight (g)	Max Psi
--------------  ----------  	------	----------      ------- 
Grand Prix	18		Steel	230		135
(3 fabric plys,	18		Kevlar	175		135
 2 fabric 	20		Steel	240		120
 belts )	20		Kevlar	185		120
		23		Steel	255		120
		23		Kevlar	205		120
		25		Steel	285		120

SuperSport	18		Steel	250		135
 Ultra		18		Kevlar	205		135
(3 fabric plys, 23		Steel	300		125
 no belts)	23		Kevlar	220		120
		25		Steel	310		125

They also listed weights for their butyl tubes. For 18mm and 25mm
tubes, 105g, ...

>tubes, 

I use generic.

>and rims.  

the Mavic MA-2 seems a good, durable rim

>I want to keep the total weight somewhere near that of a tubular set
>as well as the smoothness of the ride.

I like the Continental SuperSport ULTRA 700x25C a ***lot***.

>Also, if you've used any good Kevlar tires,

I don't think they are worth the extra weight etc.  Kevlar beads in
foldable tires are a different story.


NOTE:  I have not yet been awarded a sponsorship from Continental nor
receive any other remuneration for using their products.  But I am
still waiting the opportunity to accept some such.



-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: pevans@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Phillip Evans)
Subject: Re: Campy Athena BB axle for sale
Organization: Mad Artists' Technological Hangout
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:24:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.184307.23229@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca>
  pevans@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Phillip Evans - that's ME!)) writes:

>I have an unused Campy Athena BB axle for sale.  I bought the BB set
>and the axle does not fit - too short on the drive side.  It's marked
>70-SSg.  The Loose Screws catalog lists this at $48.75.  It's YOURS
>for $25 and I'll pay shipping.
>
OOOPS!
gotta check my prices better.  Firstoff, it's 42.something or other in 
Loose Screws.  Second, that's way too much.  Nashbar sells the whole BB
for $31.47 and Excel sells the whole BB for $36.95.

SO, 
before I get any warm responses, the NEW price including shipping is $15.



Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: SHOULD I BUY A TREK, BRIDGESTONE, OR CANNONDALE?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:38:54 GMT

>I have an old Cannondale and a Bridgestone RB1. I am on a team
>sponsored by Bridgestone.  I liked my Cannondale, but I think that my
>Bridgestone feels better during hard cornering.  I can feel a bit more flex
>on my RB1 when out of the saddle, though that is probably due to the
>wheels.  You really have to decide what you intend to do
>on your bike.  If you are really into TT's then the geometry of the
>Cannondalle is great.  For pack riding and climbing the overly steep
>angles of the C are a real liability.  A lot of the people I ride with
>got Cannondale frames from their team, and everyone of them had to go with
>some sort of funny seatpost in order to get a comfortable position.
>It was really silly move on the part of Cannondale to go with such steep
>tube angles.

Cannondale only has criterium geometry on one bike now.  The rest have road
geometry which is much better.  Some people like criterium geometry, I 
know I did.  On the other hand I have yet to see a custom or production
bike with the excellent geometry of the RB-1.  Both their road and
mountain bikes have absolutely the best geometry I have ever seen.
I was immediately comfortable on both without making any changes.
-Terry
From: mk@bigfoot.first.gmd.de (Matthias Kessler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Never call bumps again
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:09:29 GMT
Organization: GMD-FIRST, D-1000 Berlin 12, Germany (West)

In article <1992Apr7.211020.20541@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel) writes:
> - I've talked w/ several folks who have Suspenders on the front of
>tandems.  They don't help the stoker much but all captains have said
>they like them on fast trails and for road riding.  Ibis built a
>one-off prototype with Suspenders front and Offroad rear a year ago or
>so.  Although this will clearly be more expensive than a new seatpost,
>it seems like the ``right'' way to go.  Sorry, but I don't have any
>riding impressions :-)
>
>	;-D oN  ( Bump, grind, shimy, shake )  Pardo

Since I`m one of the mentioned Suspender owners I want to add that
the only thing we have for rear suspension is a Specialized Ground
Control Extreme tire. This one's 2.5" fat and makes you fell like
riding on a full suspended tandem. Even after switching from this
tire to Fat Boy 1.95" slicks, we feel very comfortable on our tandem.

This won't work for road tandems since there's not enough room for
such fat tires in their back, so get a mountain tandem instead %-).
Btw, if you think tandem riding is fun then try offroad tandem
riding! It's unbelievable, especially downhill!!
(and yes, we could go uphill too, lots of traction and the front tire
*stays* on the ground).

-- 
 Matthias Kessler, GMD-FIRST|     mk@gmdtub.uucp     | One Less Car !
 Germany, W1000 Berlin 12   |      or                | Zappa for President
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: gle@l42bb.jsc.nasa.gov (glenn ellis)
Subject: Re: Are basso bikes ok? basso line
Organization: nasa-jsc
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:56:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.223215.19764@lmpsbbs.mot.com> 
vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo) writes:
> The bike I bought is a red/white/blue Basso.  I bought and a big used 
bike 
> swap.  It has Suntour 600 parts and sew-up rims.  Does anyone know how 
much
> this bike goes for new and what bikes are in the basso line?

I had a Basso GAP frame with Shimano 600 parts and clicher rims  and loved 
it right up to the day that it fell off the bak of a friends car on the 
Interstate and was smashed.  I bought a Tommasini to replace it and have 
regretted it every since.  The Tommasini is a nice bike, but its not my 
Basso.  Want to sell yours? What size is it?

________________________________________________________________________
gle@l42bo.jsc.nasa.gov - "Does the dog have the buddah nature?" - Muh!
________________________________________________________________________
From: wulfie@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Calling all Haligonians:  Re Bike Work
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:19:46 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Hi, this i hope is okay in NEWSNET etiquette.  This post is only relevant
for Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada readers...


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From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: A lousy night out on the road...(or, how to keep bike fr
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:03:34 GMT

Jim Gregory writs:

> Anyone know of a good way to prevent ice formation like this?  I was
> thinking a person could make a small cloth or plastic "bootie" to put over
> the parallelogram of the rear derailleur so that ice wouldn't build up on it.

My experience in this kind of weather is not to shift gears.  The freewheel
cluster fills with mush and water to freeze into a hard snowball with a slot
where the chain is currently running.  Keep it in that gear and you'll be OK.
In fact, for this kind of weather, a coaster brake one speed "bike messenger"
bike is probably ideal.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: iyermish@sjuphil.uucp (I. Yermish)
Subject: Re: Thule or Yakima Rack (the real question)
Organization: Saint Joseph's University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 12:15:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.165342.25275@cbfsb.cb.att.com> weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt) writes:
>In article <4992@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> jmyers@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Jonathan Myers) writes:
>
>Gee, the subject line is Thule vs. Yak Rack.  But, most of the posts are 
>Yakima racks are made here, no they're made here.  maybe they make them in
>two places.  
>
>I'd like to know which is better, or at least which one I should get.
>I hate lying my bike down in the trunk, and I don't trust other cars when
>my bike in on a trunk rack.  So, which should I get a Thule or a Yakima
>rack?  I would only be using it for one road bike so far, maybe more later.
>Also, my car doesn't have rain gutters.  Is one model better for these 
>applications?
>
>John Erhardt


I don't know which is better, but BOTH of my Thule rackcks (one for gutters,
one without) work just fine.  They're very easy to install, don't seem to
do any damage to the finish, and hold the bikes nice and tight.  I also have
both types of carriers and they are fine also.

-- 
----------------------------------------------
 Ira Yermish  iyermish@sju.edu  (215)-660-1636
----------------------------------------------
From: noah@cs.washington.edu (Rick Noah Zucker)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: job - WA state Bicycle Program Manager
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:44:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle


	Please pass this along to anyone appropriate.  There have not
been many applications received.

							Rick Zucker

-----------------------------------

The Washington DOT is recruiting for a statewide Bicycle Program Manager,
located in Olympia, WA.  The position will be a Transportation Planning 
Specialist, and will provide technical advice and planning for design,
construction, maintenance, education and promotion in all matters relating
to bicycling.

Min qualifications include Bachelor's Degree involving major study in
transportation, environmental or urban planning and 4 years of professional
transportation experience, 2 years of which must have dealt with programs,
design, planning, research or analysis relatinf to bicycle transportation
issues and problems.  Applications accepted until April 15, 1992.

For more info contact April Thompson, WSDOT, 206-586-7322
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.autos.driving,ca.driving,rec.motorcycles
From: sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims)
Subject: Re: Car vs Cycle vs Bike vs Ped--The Main Point
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group, Denver
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:50:25 GMT

In article <180917@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>     No Les, he said BASIC stuff....disobedience of asinine speed
>     laws is a civic DUTY, not a violation of law.
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Give me a break!!!!!  Perhaps in Mt View, they have a different idea of
what law is, but I don't remember the CHP handing out tickets for
violations of civic duties.  I also don't remember the DMV saying its OK
to redefine the concept of law to fit your own narrow-minded
preferences, either.
>
>      Going from the ability and willingness to stay on the correct
>      side of the road, stopping at stop signs, etc. to speed laws
>      is a pretty big stretch.
Its only a big stretch if you've selectively defined laws to fit your
desires.
>
>      Besides, one would bet that the obedience is more due to
>      visibility.  Biker's CAN'T speed...and cars are a bit more
Come up to Colorado, and tell me that when I'm going 43 in a 40 mile
zone on my bike.  Perhaps bloated cagers who happen to be lucky enough
to get on a bike occasionally can't speed, but the rest of us sure can!
>      conspicuous cruising down the wrong side of the road.
Get a life, man!

John Sims

-- 
John Sims    sims@pogo.den.mmc.com
"Life is much too serious a matter to be taken too seriously"  
																								 Goethe (I think)
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From: etxorst@eos.ericsson.se (Torsten Lif)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Taiwanese tyres
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:47:15 GMT
Reply-To: etxorst@eos.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB

In article 4677@csc.canterbury.ac.nz, chem194@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alex Ferguson) writes:

>Including myself, I know of 5 people who have had problems
>with some makes of tyres tearing the bead from the sidewall.
>In my case the tyres were IRC and they never gave any
>trouble on steel rims. This was before I started using Cheng
>Shins'.
>
>It appeared to be caused by the aluminium of the rim being
>soft enough for the threads in the tyre to "dent" it and
>form a "saw blade" which cut its way through.
>
>Two of us changed to Wolber 58 and 59 rims and have had no
>problems since.

I should add that in my case, the same Mavic rims have caused no
problems whatsoever with Nu-Trak, Pariba and Panaracer (both with and
without Kevlar) tires. I still think the sidewall material of the
cheaper brands is the culprit.

>Alex Ferguson - chem194@csc.canterbury.ac.nz

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Subject: Opinions Wanted: Light Saddles
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:16:58 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

 I already have a Flite saddle and now want to continue down the bike towards
the frame. While there are plenty of catalog listings for light saddles,
light seatposts are rarely offered.
 My Flite saves me about 1/4lb off my old saddle. I would think a light seat-
post would save another 1/4lb pretty easily.

 What are some suggested companies, weights, prices, durabilities, and places
to purchase?

 I can start off this with the following:

 James Gordon Ultimate Carbon Seatpost  Road 190g. Mountain 210g
 
 Unfortunately I don't have a price or place selling it. The info is from
a spec sheet of a built bike.


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Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:8727 soc.culture.german:2880
From: tfb@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Tim Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,soc.culture.german
Subject: Bicycles and trains in continental Europe
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:31:52 GMT
Organization: Not

[I'm sorry to crosspost this to soc.culture.german but the right group
doesn't really exist for this (at least not in the UK).]

I want to take my (fairly expensive) bike to Heidelberg from Edinburgh
for 2 weeks.  I've had bad experiences with airlines and after some
investigation discovered that, yes, they do employ special people who
take bikes out of their careful packing, jump on them with hobnailed
boots, and then put them back.

So, since I don't like flying anyway, I thought I'd go by train and
ferry; since that way I could put the bike in the guard's van and
generally keep an eye on it.  The route I'd take is
Oostend-Koeln-Mannheim-Heidelberg.  Now it seems that if I do that I
have to send the bike as some kind of luggage which means it travels
separately from me, probably arriving at a different time (not much
use for the return journey!), and they get the chance to let their own
special hobnailed-bike-jumping-people have a go at the bike.  So this
is even worse than flying.

So what can I to do? ride?  There *must* be a bicycle-friendly way of
travelling!

My only hope is that in fact I *can* take the bike on all these
trains, but I'm pretty unwilling to take the chance of arriving at a
station hundreds of miles from either home or destination and being
told that I can't put it on the train.

If anyone knows if this is true or has any constructive experiences
with taking bikes around continental Europe and Germany in particular,
could you *mail* me (this is all meant to happen this Friday).  Thank
you.


--tim Bradshaw
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Table Saw belt alignment
Keywords: how?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:37:13 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Apr15.193212.10341@mks.com> fred@mks.com (Fred Kratky) writes:
>The problem I have with mis-alignment is that it seems to cause
>excessive power draw on startup (I asume from excessive belt friction)
>and I keep blowing fuses (yes I am using the proper delay fuse).
>The fuses only blow on startup (after ~ 3 seconds).

I tend to suspect that the wire path from the panel to saw is too long/too
small.  The startup surge draws so much current that the resistance drops
the voltage low enuogh to seriously prolong the startup time, and the fuse
trips.

Eg: a motor will draw triple (or more) of its plate rating during startup.
If the resistance in the wiring drops the voltage far enough, the current
doesn't drop below the fuse trip until it's too late.

How long is the run?  What size wire in the extension?
-- 
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Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: johna@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (John Allen)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:39:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Swedish floor finishes
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking

I have Glitsa on my oak floors.  Glossy enough to suit me.  I think a large
well-clawed dog would be able to scratch it though.
From: JEFF-G@cup.portal.com (Jeffrey H Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Puzzle Boxes
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 02:01:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

<Is anyone aware of information about Chinese or Victorian puzzle boxes? 
 
You might consider the book - Puzzles by Jerry Slocum & Jack Botermans
			      ISBN 0-295-96579-7
                      
(actual title is: Puzzles - Old & New & How to Solve them)
From: samchris@brtph495.BNR.CA (Sam Christie P200)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Finish for a desktop ?
Keywords: finish question
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:19:00 GMT
Reply-To: samchris@brtph495.BNR.CA (Sam Christie P200)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I have been building a desk which will be used as both a computer
desk and general office work table at home.  This means the surface
will be subjected to ball point pens, coffee and coca-cola.  The desk
is made of oak.  I used 3/4" oak veneer plywood for the top, since 
that way I didn't have to veneer it myself.
My question to you is, what would you recommend as a finish for this
surface ?  Why ?

Please reply via e-mail.  Summary will be posted.

Sam Christie
BNR, Inc       Remember: I work for them, not the other way around
919/991-7244

Return mail should be addressed to:

woodstock!samchris@mcnc.org
From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Want to get started in woodwork
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:43:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.b992Apr9.004303.15715
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center



try high school night classes for adults, and classes at a local community
college. They will have lots of tools, and you can learn before sinking
a bundle into tools you do not know how to use.

David		doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking