From: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: What is H a m a s ??
Date: 1 Jan 1993 03:43:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
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Tamer AbdelJawad:

>In article <1hsejcINNf3k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes:
>>
>>In a previous article, abde@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Tamer A. Abdelgawad) says:
>>
>>>
>>>It is nice to know the Muslim Bretheren support the killing of an unarmed
>>>hostage without convicting him of any particular crime, *and* claim it is
>>>Islamic!
>>
>>Stop your lies about Islam and muslims.  I would like you to give me
>>where in a Quran it says what Hamas is doing is wrong.
>>

>What Hamas did was wrong because the killing of an unarmed P.O.W. 
>*without* a conviction for a specific crime is murder.  Islam does not
>sanction murder.

Islam doesn't tell you to be a chicken.  It tells to go and fight.
btw, this unarmed pow of yours carried his ozi with him. I would like to 
see you write about the deportation of the unconviceted 418 palestinians,
or about the killing of palestinian people of all sorts who get killed
by jews.  Why don't you write about the pows of muslims in bosnia?
Or is it "israel is here to stay, and lets accept that and move on"?
Anyways, where in islam it tells you kidnapping your enemy and killing him
is wrong?  Quote it for me.  I am ready to quote you the one that allows you
to do so.  Are you?

>>You're either one of these two , a jew or a christian who hates Islam and
>>muslims -or- some idiot who just doesn't know what he is talking about.
>>
>>If these two don't fit your description, prove otherwise.  
>>

>Let's see:  I am neither a jew nor a christian, which leaves the "idiot".
>Let me remind you Hamaza of the time I personally insulted you by calling
>you a "presumptuous idiot".  I apologized *twice*, and accepted whatever
>names you called me as fair retaliation.  Can I expect the same from you?
>I'll even make it easier by not insulting you in return :-).

You are really a westernized mature man.  Prove otherwise on giving
evidences of what your talking about islam.  Your personal
opinions are not part of islam.  Say you think this and that is
right or wrong, but not islam that says it.

>>I would like you once to respond to a jew post, or is it really these
>>muslims who you are after. huh?
>>

>An extreme jewish posting irritates me much less than a posting which
>I preceive as a misrepresentation of Islam and moslims.  I say what I
>say in good faith, and I'm always open to conflicting opinions.
 
Someone who says "israel is here to stay" is accepted to say worse
than this.  If your open to conflicting opinions, prove to me
that i misrepresent islam and muslims.  tell me where in quran
it says muslims have to give the land they were drove from and 
accept their enemys to be on it and give up fighting.   who is 
misrepresenting islam? someone who quotes quran or someone who says
about islam whatever he likes without knowing it is in islam or not.

>>>P.S.  Happy holidays everyone :-)
>>
>>Muslims don't have holdiays at this time of the year.
>>However, it is ok if you're christian to say it for non-muslims.  
>>

>I think I read in one of your posts that you are done with classes
>for this semester, ergo, contrary to what you say, moslims *do* have
>holidays at this time of the year :-).  Happy holidays.

There is a differnce from one who is acknowldging and celebrating them
and someone who is not.

>Tamer Abdelgawad
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