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From: maus@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Jim Driscoll)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:15:10 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

In article <1992Aug17.204626.18655@maths.tcd.ie> pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes:
>seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>
>>	If YOU like that, fine, but I prefer to believe that when one creates
>>a fictional universe one can come up with something at least a little BETTER
>>than the one you LIVE in.

I agree!  Unless, of course, the screenwriter / author / director has a
_reason_ not to.  Any valid message will do.

>
>I take it you didn't like "1984" then? Or a host of other movies and 
>other works of art that make you think?
>

I personally loved 1984 (the book, anyway).  Unfortunately, all I could think of
while watching Alien^3 was "How much longer till this crap is over?"  

I tried to get a message out of it.  Really I did.  I remain convinced that the
director was desperately trying to say something.  He just didn't say it very
clearly, that's all.  Nothing's worse than a failed art movie.  One theory is
that the theme was Messiahnic (sp!).  Ripley as savior.  It almost works until
you remember that a) she brought Satan in the first place, and b) the alien ship
still exists, so the sacrifice was pointless.  Another theory (that I read in a
newspaper) was that it was actually about AIDS!  Any thoughts?

maus
-- 
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From: tabaer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Troy A Baer)
Subject: Re: Animation??, maybe
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:15:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.232457.547@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_cartheybr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>Does anyone think it would be a good idea if Lucasfilm, or someoone authorized
>by LFL, to animate those books which are canon but not being made into to
>movies (ie. HTTE, DFR, Splinter of the Mind's EYE??) Not your average Looney
>Tunes animation, but more realistic animation like the movie Heavy Metal or 
>even Japanese animation. Oh, and use the original actors voices, not just
>anyone.  The latest books, IMHO, have good, if not great, movie potential and
>I would enjoy seeing them as movies. I realize that SotME is not canon, but it
>was a pretty good book.  Anyway, the reason I say animate these movies is that
>they are not part of the original trilogy and should not be made into live
>action movies, but people I talk to say they would be cool movies and the
>scenery that my imagination cooked up would be awesome.  Do you catch my drift?

I think it would be pretty cool, but I don't foresee it happening.  If it
did, the animation studio would almost HAVE to be Japanese, to do the
starships and droids justice.  Maybe the studio that did Macross?  If such
a project did get started, hopefully it wouldn't turn into another Sentinels:
having the funding cut off barely into the project.  (For those unfamiliar,
there was a sequel series to the Robotech series in production a couple years
back, but the American backers cut their funding after producing only 3
episodes.)

It'd be neat, but most likely it ain't gonna happen.

	--Troy
+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+
|Troy A. Baer        | "If you will not turn to the dark side, then perhaps|
|tabaer@magnus.acs.  |    she will..."                                     |
|  ohio-state.edu    | "NEVER!!!!!"                                        |
|an038@freenet-in-a. | -- Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker, _Star_Wars_VI:   |
|   cwru.edu         | 	  Return_of_the_Jedi_                              |
+--------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+
Note:  Most leading theologians claim this argument is a load of dingo's
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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Administrivia
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:19:28 GMT


In a previous article, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) says:

>tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>: Now.  As for finding the FAQ, you can either use a search command or,
>: and I think that this is not unreasonable, we could petition to creat
>: rec.arts.sf.starwars.info.
>
>overkill :)
>
>I can add the FAQ to my auto-postings, if no one is going to 
>post it regularly.
>
>But is there really enough traffic for r.a.sf.sw.info? Besides,
>everyhting would be cross-posted to r.a.sf.sw anyway (like the
>pointless rec.music.misc.info! Everyone crossposts to all the other
>music groups if they post to it.)

Beats me.  That's why I'm trying to see if there's any interest.

As for uniqueness of posts, that's not what an *.info group is for.
It's a place where the informational posts can be separated out
from the chatter.

-- 
             TJ Goldstein    tlg4@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
      Assistant Sysop, Science Fiction and Fantasy SIG  (GO SCIFI)
----------------   "If you want something done right,  ----------------- 
       kill Baldric before you start."  --  Edmund Blackadder III
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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Writing our own saga
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:24:49 GMT



OK, I goofed.  Would the person who wrote to me with a possible
idea for a story we could write ourselves please write to me again?

(My mailbox ate it.)

Also, if anyone is interested in doing a continuing story, please
let me know and we'll get one going.  Also let me know if
you would prefer that we did it over the group (with people sending
me the next installment so that we wouldn't get six part threes)
or if we get the group together first and do it by mail alias.

I kind of prefer to do it over the group because it allows the 
greatest number of people to participate.  Especially with the 
uni's coming back on the net in the next few weeks.

Just a note -- the proposed idea was really a good one.  I think
we can do a lot with it.

-- 
             TJ Goldstein    tlg4@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
      Assistant Sysop, Science Fiction and Fantasy SIG  (GO SCIFI)
----------------   "If you want something done right,  ----------------- 
       kill Baldric before you start."  --  Edmund Blackadder III
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: '78 STAR WARS Special
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:04:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug19.220410.773
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hello!

Does anyone have a copy of the 1978 Star Wars special that was on
television? I only got to see snips of this, and would like to get a copy
of it.  If you have a copy, or know where I can obtain one, I would much
appreciate it. Please e-mail me.

Dave
From: bggreenberg@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Brian Greenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Leia's Character
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:18:04 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Is it me or was the character of Princess Leia much better in
ANH and TESB than in RotJ?  I thought she softened up too much in
RotJ.  What about all of you?
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From: mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr)
Subject: Re: Bubba Fett
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:23:22 GMT

In article <l92iqqINNhvl@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:

>As far as I'm concerned, after Fett brought the Han-sicle to Jabba, he left
>for other jobs. What we saw in Jedi was a Boba wannabe. The real Fett could
>not have died that pitifully.
>
>-joshuali@usc.edu

YES!  Finally, someone who agrees with me! =)  (Although my theory was that
he was on vacation and the guy we saw was filling in, I can easily accept
the wannabe theory.)


-- 
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|  Paul Mohr                   |            |    |   \ / |                |
|  mohr@leland.stanford.edu    |            ____/   | -  |                |
-------------------------------------------_|      _|   _|-----------------
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW VS. Dune
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:44:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug13.004437.569
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <1992Aug11.153144.28777@dgbt.doc.ca>
serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:

>With all this SW vs ST, how about some thought on Sw vs. Dune? How about 
>a coupe of sand worms to pulverize a couple of imperial bases heh heh heh.
>Or see Paul Atreides yell at Darth Vader to death. 
>
>Serge


                  *OH PUL-HEEZE*

Dune? Eck! That movie adaption was pathetic...

Dave
From: v148rb5b@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (COLLIN MCCULLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Request: intro text to starwars movies
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I am in need of the text beginning each of the starwars movies
("Long ago in a galaxy far, far away...", etc.)  If anyone has this info
I'd appreciate it if you could e-mail it to me.  Thanks in advance. 

----------
Collin McCulley		University at Buffalo 		Mech & Aero Eng.
		***All the .sig that's print to fit***
From: gzc@gserv1.dl.ac.uk g.coulter
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Industrial Light & Magic .....
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:56:49 GMT
Reply-To: gzc@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Keywords: 

Can anyone help me I am after information on any (ILM) Industrial Light & Magic
activity or goings on. I am particularly interested in computer generated special
effects such as those used in TERMINATOR II and the Abyss. I have read the book by
Thomas G Smith...."ILM The Art Of Special Effects" (which is a must if you do not have
it) and would like to find out more !!!!!!

Thanks for any help Gary...

Reply to gzc@uk.ac.daresbury
From: azamora@hexagon.cs.indiana.edu (Tony Zamora)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Administrivia
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:59:13 GMT
Reply-To: azamora@cs.indiana.edu
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

In article <1992Aug12.211817.11141@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ  
Goldstein) writes:
> Now.  As for finding the FAQ, you can either use a search command or,
> and I think that this is not unreasonable, we could petition to creat
> rec.arts.sf.starwars.info.

The proper way to deal with the FAQ is to crosspost it to news.answers.  FAQs  
posted to news.answers are automatically archived at pit-manager.mit.edu and  
are available via anonymous ftp and an email server.

A description of how to submit FAQs to news.answers is available via anonymous  
ftp from pit-manager.mit.edu [18.172.1.27] in the file  
/pub/usenet/news.answers/news-answers/guidelines.

If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives
by mail server as well.  Send an E-mail message to
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on
separate lines for more information.

Tony
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From: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Subject: Re: ANH
Reply-To: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:02:28 GMT


In a previous article, flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) says:

>In article <65273@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>>
>>ANH comes from the fact that with the DS gone (and Tarkin dead?) there is 
>>actually something to rejoice about for a change.  Doesn't it?
>
>I always thought it reffered to the fact that Luke would be a Jedi and
>he was the new hope.

And *I* always thought that "A New Hope" came from the fact that 
"Rebel spaceships, striking from their secret base, have just won their
first victory over the evil GALACTIC EMPIRE...."

-- 
Palmer T. Davis      ___
<ptd2@po.cwru.edu>   \X/   cthread.  cthread_fork().  Fork, thread, fork!
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From: jfol@carina.unm.edu (joshua l follicks-shields)
Subject: Re: Speeder Bikes
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:30:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Aug12.120845.28114@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>a_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>: 	I'm just curious as to how Luke and Leia suddenly became world-, err,
>: galaxy-class speeder bike pilots :-)
>

May the Force Be With You (Duh ;))
>


-- 
Old Jedi Master: Ahh Joshua, he's more machine now than man, twisted and evil.

                         New Imperial Forces Motto:
                       Outnumbered, But Not Outfought!
From: bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:09:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Aug12.170927.22882
Reply-To: bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


OK sorry for the mistake about whose brother Owen is.  I totally missed the
line where Ben tells Luke who Owen was and I've seen RotJ at least twenty
times.  Someone argued that if Owen was Vader's brother then he would have
Jedi powers as well.  Well if he is Ben's brother then he would have these
poweres as well.  Therefore, with the info we have gathered I think it is
safe to say that Owen was Ben's brother-in-law (either his wife's brother
or his wife's sister's husband).  I also agree that in ANH it seemed that
Owen was Anikan's brother.

-Brian
-- 
| Brian G. Greenberg:                   | "You can do more with a kind word |
| Summer : bl375@po.cwru.edu            |  and a gun, than with just a kind |
| Fall : bg4nsanu@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu |  word." -Al Capone                |
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From: a_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Capital ships
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:17:39 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Aug14.124013.4955@gw.wmich.edu>, 751kaiser@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> say
> 
> does anyone know of where i can get a hold of the other capital ships
> from StarWars besides the StarDestroyer?

	Wouldn't the parking for the things be a bit pricey? Plus you'd have a
huge bill for the crew. And I don't think that the US government would like you
having a military vehicle more powerful than what they have. Personally, I
don't think it would be worth it, but hey, that's just my opinion.

Brandon Cope

:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
From: fraser@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:45:13 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Aug12.010412.15274@cco.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
> 
>>	2) Owen is *BEN'S* brother, as revealed in ROTJ.  What would Vader
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> 
> It is unmistakeably stated in Jedi, though, that Ben send Luke to live with
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Ben's "brother."  I think that this is a discrepancy on Lucas' or the writer's

> part.  This totally contradicts what is stated in teh first movie.
> 

  Is it? I don't remember this bit. In ANH Ben isnt exactly choked when his
brother gets killed, in that case. I always reckoned either that Owen was
not Luke's real uncle, or else that Owen or Beru was the brother or sister
of Mrs Skywalker, Luke's mother; this explains why they do not have any force
ability.
  As to why Vader stops Fett shooting Chewie, there are two factors; Chew and 
Leia are valuable prisoners and Vader no doubt intended to interrogate
them for info on the rebellion, and also Vader is not a man of violence (-:
- admittedly he kills a lot of people but he does it in a very cold sort of way, 
he doesnt run around shouting and blasting people. I think this is what makes
him such a good villain, he always keeps his cool.

Rich.
From: wag5@quads.uchicago.edu (john peter wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Speeder Bikes
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:52:24 GMT
Reply-To: wag5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Aug5.205113.3740@u.washington.edu> mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey) writes:
>In article <l804qbINNg3t@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>>I  always thought that the speeders had some sort of anti-grav repulsor
>>generator that only let them float so far above the ground- 10 ft max
>>or so.
>	Well, you do have the right idea.  The speeder bikes can actually reach a reasonable altitude of about 100 feet or so.  The altitude can be varied
>because repulsor generators can put out a variable amount of energy.
>Watch the combat scenes where I believe it is Leia that climbs into the air 
>really high on the bike.  I can't remember who it was, but it did occur.
>
>
						- Rob
	I don't know. It seems to me that this 'gravity repulsor' or whatever
might actually be more along the lines of the lift generated by a balloon.
	If in the SW universe force fields with a physical substance
could be generated then it may be conceivable that they could be used to
enclose a certain small volume of air.  By then increasing the boundaries
of the fields in such a way that more air does not enter the new field,
a volume can be created which is somewhat less dense than the surrounding
atmosphere. If then the density of rider and bike and field together
are less than air then there would be an affect of displacement by
the air.
	Also, a field could simply enclose a volume of atmosphere which
could then be pumped out until an overall density is roughly equal
to the surrounding atmosphere.
	When, in RotJ, one rider jumps to another bike, that bike momentarily
moves down and then regains its original altitude, it could be the
vacuum pump working to compensate for the increased density.

				Just my lint,
				J. Wagner 
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From: wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars Movies?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:17:57 GMT

scottg@amiganet.chi.il.us (Scott Gittlitz) writes:

>From what I've heard LucasArts has confirmed that production for the next
>trilogy will begin in 1994 and released May 28, 1997 for the 20th anniv of Star
>Wars.  The trilogy probably going to be named Clone Wars, will take place
>approx. 20 years before Star Wars: A New Hope (Episode IV).  This trilogy will
>tell the story of Ben discovered A. Skywalker, made him a Jedi, turned into
>Darth Vader, and the birth of Luke and Leia.

>No surprises there, Lucas has also stated that C3PO & R2D2 would be the linking
>characters for all nine films, this he said from day one of production on Star
>Wars and has never changed.

Is there any hard facts that the next movies will deal with Ben and Adakin?
As I recall, George Lucas mentioned that the only characters in all 9 movies
would be the droids.  

If this is true then maybe George is going further back (a longer time ago??)
before the clone wars.  This may be better since we already know what happens
to Adakin and Ben.  

I keep hearing the twenty year difference idea.  This may be true but have we
heard anything recently from LucasArts about the time periods.  

Mark Wyman
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Hiding a Skywalker on Tatooine.
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:46:11 GMT

From article <92233.134421EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, by Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>:
> The problem I have with the Empire not knowing about Kenobi's existence is that
> Leia's blockade runner was purposely flying past Tatooine with the knowledge
> that Kenobi was there.  Leia was possibly going to meet with him or just drop
> off the droids as they did anyway.  So if Leia knew about his whereabouts, it
> stands to reason that a lot more people also did.  She was only about 20, after
> all.  Who else could have known?  Was it in the Imperial Senate's data banks?
> Most likely not, but where, besides being told from rebel to rebel, which
> would probably be nothing more than hopeful rumors and legends?

	Probably the only one who knew besides her was her father.  It doesn't
seem like the secret of his recluse would have gotten far beyond them, or
Ben would have been killed a long time ago....
 
 TTYL
 Chris
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Who's Tougher
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:57:26 GMT

tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:


>In a previous article, darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy) says:

>>
>>My friend and I were just wondering who would in a fight, Darth Vader
>>or Boba Fett.  Also, why do you think that Darth/Boba would win?

>Vader would just "strangle" him and that would be the end of it.

If takes a bit of concentration to "strangle" someone.  For example, if I
were running a 100m dash, I don't think that Darth Vader would be able to
"stangle" me.  Besides, Luke "stangled" some of those Gremorian guard
pig things, but yet he didn't "strangle" Boba Fett during the skiff fight.
Also, we didn't see Luke "strangle" Jabba the Hutt (although we did see
Leia strangle him).

I think those not weak of mind can resist the Jedi attacks.  I don't think
the force is really that strong, anyway.  If someone started running away,
I doubt that even Yoda would be able to use the force to "pull" him back.

Anyway, isn't Boba Fett a remnant of some group that helped exterminate
the Jedis?  He seemed to be doing okay aginst Luke (although Luke wasn't
paying much attention to him).

I don't know if Boba Fett could kill Vader, but Vader doesn't have any long
range weapons.  If Vader ever got close enough to hit Boba Fett with his
lightsaber, Boba Fett could just fire up his jet pack, and fly out of range...

Anyway, who knows what Boba Fett has up his sleeve.

keith

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From: bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg)
Subject: Re: little known movie
Reply-To: bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 15:46:34 GMT


In a previous article, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) says:

>
>Just being curious, exactly where in Return of the Jedi is it made clear that
>Owen and Ben brothers?  I can't even recall Owen and Beru being referred to
>anywhere after ANH.  The closest would be when Luke speaks of being born on
>Tatooine and Han tells him that since he'll die here too, it's pretty 
>convenient.  But I don't remember Uncle Owen.
>-- 
>BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
>uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt6390a
>Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu
>
It doesn't some people who think they know it all are getting the movie and
the book mixed up.  Nowhere in RotJ (the movie) Does it mention anything
about Owen and Beru.
-- 
| Brian G. Greenberg:                   | "You can do more with a kind word |
| Summer : bl375@po.cwru.edu            |  and a gun, than with just a kind |
| Fall : bg4nsanu@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu |  word." -Al Capone                |
|     bggreenberg@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu |             GO BROWNS!!!          |
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