HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rls@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (richard.l.schieve)
Subject: Re: Bought Eight Ball Deluxe, have questions!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:12:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.232208.22646@njitgw.njit.edu>, cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan) writes:
> In article <1992Dec10.210637.28731@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
> >Well, I took the plunge and purchased an Eight Ball Deluxe.
> >
> >There are a couple things I've now noticed that may or may not be problems.
> >
> >1) It doesn't say "Stop talking and start chalking" if you start a game, but
> >don't put the ball in play.  I could swear this was from EBD, but am I
> >thinking of Eight Ball Champ?  Was it triggered in some other fashion?
> >
> 	That's because that is from Cue Ball Wizard (Gottlieb)

Well, My Eight Ball Deluxe LTD does say, "Stop talking and start
chalking." 

				Rick Schieve
				rls@ihlpb.att.com
From: cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Star Wars pinball
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:13:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec17.133247.6025@ms.uky.edu> jen@ms.uky.edu (Jennifer B. Burch) writes:
>Here at the University of Kentucky we recently got a Star Wars Pinball
>machine and the ball seems to go down the right gutter TOO easily,
>I was wondering if anyone out there has this problem with it too...
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Jen
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Well, you can either raise it to a better level or if you don't have a
sensitive tilt you can bang it out when it is about to drain, try
hitting it on a slant.


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From: cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Bought Eight Ball Deluxe, have questions!
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:22:08 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec10.210637.28731@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>Well, I took the plunge and purchased an Eight Ball Deluxe.
>
>There are a couple things I've now noticed that may or may not be problems.
>
>1) It doesn't say "Stop talking and start chalking" if you start a game, but
>don't put the ball in play.  I could swear this was from EBD, but am I
>thinking of Eight Ball Champ?  Was it triggered in some other fashion?
>
	That's because that is from Cue Ball Wizard (Gottlieb)


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From: dchenry@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Addresses for Trader and Journal,please
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:09:08 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota


Address for Pinball Trader and Journal.
I know that this has appeared from time to time.  No FAQ on file here.
Recent questions about bingo games has stirred old memories.  Perhaps
my 1956 Bally Balls-A-Poppin will have some company.  Thank you

Dennis C. Henry
Physics Department
Gustavus Adolphus College
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: "MICHEL R VAILLANCOURT; ACP" <veritas!apple!ac.dal.ca!SINISTER>
Subject: Re: Various Questions about Suggestions....
To: rec-games-cyber@math.waterloo.edu
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From: sinister@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
Subject: Re: Various Questions about Suggestions....
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:06:38 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
News-Moderator: Approval required for posting to rec.games.cyber

In article <V13LVB6w165w@bluemoon.use.com>, veritas!apple!bluemoon.use.com!jennifer (Jennifer McGill) writes:
> I don't think RTG will come up with another revision for a while. I do
> agree with more new artwork. I just got Chrome book II, and it seems
> their artwork is getting better all the time.

	I haven't seen Chromebook II, yet.... any real outstanding stuff in it?

>> 
>> Add more vehicle specifics in the base rules.
> yea, I've always wanted to see the vehicle combat rules from Solo of
> Fortune put in the rulebook.
>> 

	I've rarely been in a situation where my players have been in a
 vehicle to get into combat....  Must be just the  game tone.

> 
> To be honest, I never did like the salary table. It makes it too easy for
> character to get money. 

	What levels are you starting your group at?  From levels 1 to 5,
the monthly is less than $3.5k on average.  The ever present unemployment 
problem is also a start-cash limiter.

> 
> uunet!gator!towers!bluemoon!jennifer            Jennifer McGill
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Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!bluemoon.use.com!jennifer (Jennifer McGill)
Subject: Re: Various Questions about Suggestions....
To: rec-games-cyber@rutgers.edu
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Errors-To: joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:51:30 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!gator.use.com!towers!bluemoon!jennifer>

> 	I haven't seen Chromebook II, yet.... any real outstanding stuff in it?

well, it has a secion on full cyborgs, you can play something like 
Robocop. Where except your brain, everything else is cyber. It has 
some new and powerful weapons as well, such as railgun, more assult 
cannons. New bullet types, and new vehicles. 

> 	What levels are you starting your group at?  From levels 1 to 5,
> the monthly is less than $3.5k on average.  The ever present unemployment 
> problem is also a start-cash limiter.

my group starts around level 7. 

uunet!gator!towers!bluemoon!jennifer            Jennifer McGill
Leader of S.W.A.T.   Students Who Act Tough.
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!meceng.coe.northeastern.edu!ratinox (Richard Pieri)
Subject: Re: Appleseed
To: cyberrpg@veritas.com (The CyberRPG List)
X-Envelope-To: cyberrpg@veritas.com
Reply-To: apple!meceng.coe.northeastern.edu!ratinox
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Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
Errors-To: apple!veritas.com!joshua
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:08:39 GMT
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>>>>> On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:43:31 GMT, Lazarus Curchyard
>>>>> <veritas!apple!mailbox.syr.edu!tbpho> said:

Lazarus> Greetings, 'NetRunners. I've a pressing question, at least it is
Lazarus> to me:

Lazarus> Can anyone substantiate of dispel the rumor that RTal is
Lazarus> developing/will release something to do with Masamune Shirow's
Lazarus> manga _Appleseed_?

They aren't. Palladium Books has the rights to Appleseed, Dirty Pair, and
the other Studio Proteus titles.

--Rat
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Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!splinter.coe.northeastern.edu!ratinox (Richard Pieri)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.frp.cyber
 11 Dec 1992 17: 28:22 GMT
To: cyberrpg@veritas.com (The CyberRPG List)
X-Envelope-To: cyberrpg@veritas.com
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>>>>> In article <9212111728.AA00402@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, "A Page
>>>>> in the Life of ..." <veritas!apple!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!adam>
>>>>> writes:
Internaut>    This is an RFD to

Internaut>    1) unmoderate rec.games.cyber

Internaut> Now that the automoderator works, there is no need to
Internaut> unmoderate it, due to the fact that the problem lies with
Internaut> the mailing list not being updated due to people not
Internaut> dealing properly with unsubscribes.  Unmoderation it will
Internaut> have no effect on this, and if you get rid of the gatewayed
Internaut> mailing list, I will no longer recieve these (not having a
Internaut> newsfeed) so I vote no on this one.

No, unmoderation will dramatically *increase* throughput times for
those who have a newsfeed of the group. No change would be apparent to
those on the e-mail gateway. Since unmoderation will not affect you, I
fail to understand your standpoint.

Internaut>    2) move rec.games.cyber to rec.games.frp.cyber

Internaut> I have said before (apparently not loud enough) the
Internaut> discussions here are _*NOT*_ fantasy!  They are about a
Internaut> SCIENCE FICTION role playing game.

Are we going to argue whether "fantasy" encompases SF?

According to the Webster server at MIT:

DEFINE fantasy
DEFINITION 1
1 imagination
  1. fan.ta.sy or phan.ta.sy \'fant-*-se-, -*-ze-\ n
     [ME fantasie] obs
     1 : HALLUCINATION
     2 : FANCY; esp : the free play of creative imagination
     3  a : a creation of the imaginative faculty; broadly : a fanciful des
	    ign or invention
        b : a chimerical or fantastic notion
        c : FANTASIA
     4 : CAPRICE usu
     5 : the power, process, or result of creating mental images modified
	 by need , wish, or desire {the ~ of daydreams}
  2. fantasy vt : to portray in the mind : FANCY to indulge in reverie
     : DAY DREAM 

Therefore, SF is included in the definition of fantasy. Therefore
rec.games.frp.cyber is a valid newsgroup.

Now, since you do *not* have a newsfeed, I fail to see why you are
against the change, since it will have little to no effect on you.

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Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: Lazarus Curchyard <veritas!apple!mailbox.syr.edu!tbpho>
Subject: Appleseed
To: rec-games-cyber@rutgers.edu
Originator: tbpho@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Errors-To: joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:43:31 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!mailbox.syr.edu!tbpho>


Greetings, 'NetRunners. I've a pressing question, at least it is to me:

Can anyone substantiate of dispel the rumor that RTal is developing/will
release something to do with Masamune Shirow's manga _Appleseed_? I have 
heard nettalk of a Cyberpunk suppliment (yeah) or a MEKTON II suppliment
(not-so-yeah), or perhaps a whole new system (boohiss). IMHO, the original
Friday Night Firefight rules in otherwise not-so-good old Cyberpunk 1st ed
is superbly suited to simulating the high level of technical detail in
Shirow's combat tech. The streamlined 2020 version would do, but....

Anyway, who can say? RSVP here or via e-mail to tbpho@mailbox.syr.edu.


		Lazarus Churchyard,
		Dumbstruck By Deunan Knute

Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!eos.ncsu.edu!bjbisset (BILLY JOE BISSETTE)
Subject: just a quick comment  Was: RFD: rec.games.frp.cyber
Apparently-To: rec-games-cyber@mcnc.org
Posted-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04: 13:54 GMT
Originator: bjbisset@c00534-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: apple!eos.ncsu.edu!bjbisset (BILLY JOE BISSETTE)
Organization: Raise A Great Old One Foundation
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:13:54 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!news>


>Three definites that are not already discussed, two of which sound like the
>same game, by title ... and a few I have never heard of.  You also forgot a
>few, like Battletek for example.

Just a quick comment, Battletech and several other SF games are now being
discussed in the NEWLY formed rec.games.mecha   Also note that it is not part
of the frp set, although rp's are being discussed here.

Taking no real stand on this issue...
-- 
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From: joshua (Joshua Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
Subject: META: test
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:53:00 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software


Another test. --Joshua
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: Faisal Nameer Jawdat <veritas!apple!andrew.cmu.edu!fj05+>
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.frp.cyber
To: cyberrpg@veritas.com
Cc: ipeltone@cc.helsinki.fi, elandal@archtwr.tower.nullnet.fi
Organization: Expert Support Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:14:02 GMT
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"A Page in the Life of ..." <veritas!apple!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!adam> writes:
>    2) move rec.games.cyber to rec.games.frp.cyber
> 
> I have said before (apparently not loud enough) the discussions here are
> _*NOT*_ fantasy!  They are about a SCIENCE FICTION role playing game.
> 
> Let's go over that again.  Not a fantasy role playing [game] but
>                                  ^       ^    ^
> a Science Fiction (based on hard science and the future of this world
> today, not some author's stroke fantasy of what that author had mangled the
> laws of science to allow for his particular deviations) role playing game.

It's also been said thousands of times that rec.games.frp is not
indicating fantasy in terms of dragons and mystics, but fantasy as in
not real.  rec.games.frp is for all role-playing games, not just
magical and fantastical.

> Again it might be shoved under rec.games.larp.cyber or rec.newage.cyber
> with as much (lack of) justace.  Don't move it and force it where it
> doesn't belong, because you can't pigeon hole it properly.

This is a good point.  I've seen a lot more cyber larps than larps of
any other kind.  Among the better ones is the Zone, run at FanTek
conventions (do *not* attempt to contact the gm's until they
recuperate from that last one - they very well may reply with a letter
bomb...). (yes that was a shameless plug).  There is a lot more
discussion on rec.games.cyber about stuff not explicitly related to
specific game mechanics (or at least there was, until the group
died...) than there is on rec.games.frp.


-- faisal jawdat                  | "Certainly the game is rigged.
email: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu       | Don't let that stop you;
if mail handler barfs             | if you don't bet, you can't win." 
fj05@andrew.cmu.edu               |        -Lazarus Long
From: joshua (Joshua Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
Subject: META: rsh/cron test
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:35:00 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software


Still trying to get a better auto-moderator to work.  --Joshua
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!homespace.mtview.ca.us!joshua (Joshua Levy)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.frp.cyber
Apparently-To: rec-games-cyber@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Expert Support Inc., Mountain View, CA
Errors-To: joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:53:08 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!uunet.UU.NET!homespace!homespace.mtview.ca.us!joshua>

In article <1992Dec12.023730.1751@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> apple!mta.ca!apace writes:
>   If you can telnet, you can get the newsgroups.(nyx, etc.)
>   If not, well, you are in the minority anyways.

No.  Most people who read news can not telnet.  Telnet requires
an IP packet connection to other machines, reading news only
requires a UUCP connection to other machines.  IP packet connections
are relatively expensive, UUCP connections are relatively cheap.
Of the three companies I've worked for, only one has had network
connection which allowed telnet, but all three had a network connection
which allowed news.

In terms of people:

      mail > news > telnet

Many people can send/read mail. Some people can send/read news. 
A few people can telnet.

Joshua Levy  (joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us)


Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: "A Page in the Life of ..." <veritas!apple!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!adam>
Subject: Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0.
To: cyberrpg@veritas.com
Reply-To: apple!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!adam
Organization: Expert Support Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:19:14 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!adam>

Grump, Grump.  Where is the moderator to weed out the "my game is better
because ..." posts?

Just so I won't be accused of doing the same thing or posting another weed
...

One addition to the dice-bent games that we play is things called Crits.

They come in flavors.  If you roll a crit fumble, you then have a chance to
see if it is a good fumble or a bad fumble, and the distance along that
vector that it was.  Same for a crit sucess, it could be a good sucess or a
bad sucess (for example, you hit him, but you also hit the (whatever)
behind him, or you bounce your shot, and it takes out the person you were
trying to save ... or some such)

Be ware of crit sucesses, because then your teemmates will be likely to
assume that that is your skill level , and you were duping them  ...

(P.S.  If battling an evil corp, and you suceed with a 66, you roll a d10,
and if you get a 6, well, then the head of the corp just happened to be
passing by, and probably sent minions to investigate ... 8-)
--
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                                -- Thomas Paine
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Internaut at large.
Oct 28 1992 -- "Where was the Kaboom?  There was supposed to be an
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Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!homespace.mtview.ca.us!joshua (Joshua Levy)
Subject: META: helping out
Apparently-To: rec-games-cyber@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Expert Support Inc., Mountain View, CA
Errors-To: joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:43:52 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!uunet.UU.NET!homespace!homespace.mtview.ca.us!joshua>

If you post to this news group, and it doesn't get posted or
you get bounce messages, please email me.  I can not fix
problems I don't know about, and the only time I hear about
problems with the automoderator is in posts, which do not
have enough details for me to find the problem.

The last time I posted to this list I got one bounce.  If
you get bounces, please send them to me.  (Ideally in one 
big message, but any form is better than not at all.)

Joshua Levy  (joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us) 
pseudo-moderator of rec.games.cyber
From: joshua (Joshua Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
Subject: META: test Celeste's idea
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:59:00 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software


This is another test.  So far nothing has worked.  --Joshua
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!owlnet.rice.edu!ratner (Logan Joshua Ratner)
Subject: Re: Various Questions about Suggestions....
Apparently-To: rec-games-cyber@ncar.ucar.edu
Organization: Rice University
Errors-To: joshua@homespace.mtview.ca.us
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:41:15 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!larry.rice.edu!news>

In article <J9VRVB2w165w@bluemoon.use.com> veritas!apple!bluemoon.use.com!jennifer (Jennifer McGill) writes:
>> 	I haven't seen Chromebook II, yet.... any real outstanding stuff in it?
>
>well, it has a secion on full cyborgs, you can play something like 
>Robocop. Where except your brain, everything else is cyber. It has 
>some new and powerful weapons as well, such as railgun, more assult 
>cannons. New bullet types, and new vehicles. 
>
>> 	What levels are you starting your group at?  From levels 1 to 5,
>> the monthly is less than $3.5k on average.  The ever present unemployment 
>> problem is also a start-cash limiter.
>
>my group starts around level 7. 

No one in my group is allowed to start above five.
(I'd make it two, but fear mutiny.)  I want 'em
poor and struggling.  There's no where to go but up
and the ceiling is pretty high up.  If you start at
seven, you hit ten pretty fast, and the thrill is
gone, as far as I'm concerned.

>
>uunet!gator!towers!bluemoon!jennifer            Jennifer McGill
>Leader of S.W.A.T.   Students Who Act Tough.


ratner
From: joshua (Joshua Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
Subject: META: new auto-moderator seems to work
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:28:00 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software


Well folks, I have a new automoderator working.
I'm sure it will be faster than the old automoderator by 1 or 2 days
for most of you.  I'm hoping that there will be fewer dropped messages
as well.  Please continue to send me any bounce messages you get
from posting to rec.games.cyber.  As well as complaints about
problems posting.  If your posts have failed in the past, you
might want to try them again.

To people on the mailing list: I know I ended up sending you guys
about 20 "META: test" messages, and I'm sorry about that.

There are a couple of messages which have not gone out to the 
news group because of my testing.  These will go out today or
tomorrow.

Joshua Levy  (joshua@veritas.com)
pseudo moderator of rec.games.cyber and CyberRPG
Newsgroups: rec.games.cyber
From: veritas!apple!bluemoon.use.com!jennifer (Jennifer McGill)
Subject: Various Suggestion to smooth playing
To: rec-games-cyber@rutgers.edu
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:32:30 GMT
Return-Path: <veritas!apple!gator.use.com!towers!bluemoon!jennifer>

> -Cyberpunk ver. 3
> 
> When will R.Talsorian come out with it?  The game is currently quite good  
> but several features need revision (and some typos fixed).
> Add some new artwork.

I don't think RTG will come up with another revision for a while. I do
agree with more new artwork. I just got Chrome book II, and it seems
their artwork is getting better all the time.
> 
> Add more vehicle specifics in the base rules.
yea, I've always wanted to see the vehicle combat rules from Solo of
Fortune put in the rulebook.
> 
> Improve the salary table in the book (ie. people don't make very much  
> money until they get to 9 in their skill and at 10 the salary is too low)  
> Also make the major skill cost more to increase and suggest a limit for a  
> starting character. (I know the DM can do this but players would grumble  

To be honest, I never did like the salary table. It makes it too easy for
character to get money. 

uunet!gator!towers!bluemoon!jennifer            Jennifer McGill
Leader of S.W.A.T.   Students Who Act Tough.
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