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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Hormones (uh, pardon me...)
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:01:34 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

In article <1993Jan25.144031.21091@yang.earlham.edu> sheris@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>>>You have no right to
>>>tell us that we can't comment on the aesthetics of Kira and Dax
>>>anymore than I have the right to tell you not to comment on
>>>O'Brien's rank, Worf's spine, Odo's nose, or the design of
>>>Nebula class starships.
>> 
>> 	Sure, I do.  And what >I< am saying is that NONE of these topics
>> belong on rec.arts.startrek.current.
>> 
>
>Uh, I have to agree with the first guy on this one.  I don't particularly
>care to hear about Kira and Dax's measurements, either, but people have
>every right to post such material.  Sometimes I get sick of hearing about
>Odo's violation of physics (and nose), Worf's spine, etc., too.
>HOWEVER, if you see a posting on a subject you dislike,
>DON'T BOTHER TO READ IT!
>It's that simple.  If you don't like it, ignore it.  Besides, what authority
>do >you< have to say what belongs here and what doesn't.  Thou art not god.
>If you really hate a person that posts stuff you don't like, use a kill file.
>	Stop being so anal-retentive and let people live their own lives.
>I'm sure there are plenty of people who are sick of the stuff you may 
>post, but they respect your right to post it, so why should you refuse 
>to respect the rights of others?  If it REALLY bugs you that much, talk to
>the moderator, if there is one, and take it up with him/her.
>
>					Isaac Sher
>				Co-Convener of Anime-Earlham
>				Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana
>
>P.S.-- I have every right to post this flame as well.  That's what these
>newsgroups are for.

Yep. I intend to reply right here too.

I notice you're on an edu system. That means, if it's anything like most
college systems, you get your USENET for free. Many people NOT in college
have to pay for the hookup and some are even billed by volume of mail. So
they joined this particular r.a.s. group PRECISELY because they DON'T want
to hear about DS9 or current plots--otherwise they would have joined 
r.a.s.current, not .misc or tech. Since current was designed only for current 
episodes, which misc was for general topics (read the charter and the faq)
they have a perfect right to bitch when their mailreader is clogged with
200 posts about Kira's nose, or spoilers about the episode on last week--
all of ehich they have to PAY for. Killfilles don't work as far as I can
tell because you are still billed. Since the solution is so simple--post
where it belongs--why not do that? You don't see me use this group to vent
my spleen on political issues or give you recipes. Why post other unwanted,
irrelavant topics here? Especially when some other poor shlub has to pay for 
somebody's 2-line post of "Yeah, you're right".   

Chris
From: wilde@husc8.harvard.edu (Robert Wilde)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DS9 rumor
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:31:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan25.143117.19780
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


I found this article which has a major spoiler for an upcoming episode
of DS9, our favorite trek.


From comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
>	That's right!!!  I heard from a round about source that Spectrum
>is working on an 11 episode game based on Star Trek:  Deep Space Nine.
>It's going to be approximately 34 megs (that's not a typo, thirty-four
>megs!!) which implies awesome graphics and sound.  For you GUS owners, it
>will support GUS native mode but only with an add-on module.
>
>	And get this:  Rick Bergman (sp?), the executive producer of the 
>show will have the final say as to when the game is ready for shipment.  He
>wants NO bugs in it (the software kind as well as the Trekker kind).  No 
>story line well be released as one of the characters will be killed off in 
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the show soon.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	Don't hold me responsible for any of the above because, like I
>said, I heard this in a round about way.  But if anyone has more recent or
>more accurate info we're all listening.
>-- 
>   Jagtar Singh <===> et262tut@credit.erin.utoronto.ca
>============================================================================
>|  -He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool, avoid him. |
>|  -He who knows not and knows that he knows not is ignorant, teach him.   |

Can't vouch for the authenticity of this rumor, but let's hope if this is an
attempt to make the show "grim and dirty" it isn't handled like Tasha Yar's
first death (though a DS9 episode of the caliber of Yesterday's Enterprise
would be quite a treat).  Problem is, I can't think of a major character I'd
like to see go.  Quark, Sisko, Odo, Kira, Dax, Bashir, O'Brien, they all show
promise.

-- 
|Robert Wilde| I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good
| wilde@husc | thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in
|  .harvard  | the physical.
|    .edu    |    -Thomas Jefferson, to James Madison
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: ruderg@aix.rpi.edu (Gregory Allen Ruderman)
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Past Prologue"
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:58:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.080129.12550@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>In article <1jnd6hINNnpl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> martinso@cps.msu.edu (David Scott Martin) writes:
>>I think the "gold-pressed..." was "gold preslatinum" or something like that.
>>A variant on platinum?  
>
>No, I distinctly heard "gold-pressed latinum".
>
>>
>>But why would gold be valued everywhere, anyway?  Couldn't there be a planet
>>where gold is as common as dirt is here?  Just a difference in the available
>>elements...different chemistry in the planet's formation.
>
>It's possible. That'd be one rich planet!
>
	No, it's not really possible, since elements (like gold) are not
formed by chemistry in planetary formation, but physics in supernovae.  When
a star explodes, the elements in the core fuse, making heavier elements which
are then scattered by the ensuing explosion.  Although it is theoretically
likely that some planets would have more gold than others, it is far enough
down on the periodic table that it would be pretty rare, on average, throughout
the galaxy.
	Now if a planet was formed from the ashes of a nice, heavy element rich
star like our sun (which can't go supernova anyway), it would be very rich
in the heavier elements...

****************************************************************************
	Just some rampaging physics from ruderg@rpi.edu...Gregory Ruderman
			AKA Dooley.the.Mauve

	"Ahead Warp Zillion!"
*****************************************************************************



>-- 
>"Dr. McCoy, would you do me the very great honor of eating my shorts?" -Spock
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Ray, when somebody asks you if you're a god, you say YES!" -- Winston Zeddmore
From: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Highlights from Conve
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 

On 20 Jan 93 15:16:49 GMT, mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) wrote:

SH>This is curious information.  According to the credits, Judi Durand is
SH>the woman who provides DS9's voice, not Harriet Leider (credited as
SH>Amarie, the keyboardist in "Unification II").

MR>I could've sworn I heard Majel Barrett's voice when I watched "Emissary."

You did.  As it turns out, Judi Durand is the voice of DS9, and Majel is
the voice of the Runabouts (and of the Saratoga in "Emissary").

----scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------"There are wilder skies than these."---
---------------------------------------------------------Dirk Gently---------

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From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Keiko a Schoolteacher?
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:31:05 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <ewright.727724900@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
> In <1993Jan20.160130@usho72.hou281.chevron.com> hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
> 
>> I liked the idea of her setting up an Arboretum and going through
>> the worm-hole to bring back strange and possibly dangerous alien 
>> plant species.  Now that definitely would have better plot potential!
> 
> Oh, come on, you mean get into plots based on exo-botany?  It
> does sound interesting, but given how often the TNG writers botch 
> *anything* having to do with biology, I can't see that happening.
                               ^^^^^^^
Or any other science.... 8-)
-- 
Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
                   e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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From: dormrec@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Halter )
Subject: Re: Kira Fan List.
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:35:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.153323.9483@sx.mont.nec.com> ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:
>
>Since there are people out there who feel so strongly about
>not wanting the list in r.a.s.c, then I will refrain from posting 
>it.

	Now look what you mighty crusaders have done!!!  Now, simply 
because a few extremely vocal people on this net can't bear to see people
have some fun, the Kira fan list has been frightened out of existence.
You know, there's only one thing that's more annoying than seeing all
the response to a harmless, silly string, and that's all the stupid
people that waste their time to flame it.  Flame me if you like, but
I won't respond.  I don't want to waste your precious net space.

					Love,
						Mike Halter
						Memeber of Dorm-Rec


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Rating of women on ST/ST:TNG/ DS9
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 03:37:57 EST

In article <1993Jan23.072540.14549@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU () writes:
 
>
>In article <1993Jan23.030640.17766@news.uakron.edu> dskowron@serj.polymer.uakron.edu (Daniel Skowronski) writes:
>>With 10 being the sexist being to grace the screen, I rank
>>
>
> Dr. Crusher....11.0
>
>>Tasha Yar......10.0
>>Ensign Ro......8.5
>>Kira ..........7.0
>>Dax............6.5
>>Troi...........5.0
>>Horta(Silicon based life form)...0.1
>>Harry Mudd's Wife.....0.0
>>
    For all you trivia buffs out there, Mrs. Mudd's name was (is?)
Stella.
 
   Btw, I just saw "Taking Care of Business", the movie, for the first time
yesterday, and it was hilarious when Gates McFadden, during a lunch with
Japanese executives, leaned backwards to try to give the impression that
she had large(r?) breasts. ... :)
 
   Also, I suppose this thread belongs in .misc, but I just post things
where I see them, I'm afraid... (No Followup-to command on my editor)
 
    Junsok Yang
From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Sulu Re: English as Earth's standard language in the 24th Cent.?
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:52:12 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1993Jan24.192834.6176@netcom.com>, timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee) writes:
> hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg) writes:
> |- Chekov is obviously a Russian native and Sulu a Japanese.
> 
> Hmmm, wasn't Sulu supposed to have met a 20th century ancestor in
> San Francisco in ST4, but that scene got edited out?
> 
> That would mean that he's supposed to be American.


Tim -- Better yet.  I just got done watching ST IV, (nothing else to do when
it is snowing this hard), and what do I hear, this quote from Sulu:

"San Francisco.. I was born there."  (this is when they are preparing to land
in Golden Gate Park, in the 20th century)

-- 
ciao,                             
Jason Bittle (bittle@canisius.edu) 
(a.k.a. Pillsbury Dough Boy )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: pduggan@world.std.com (Paul C Duggan)
Subject: Re: Another question/SPOILER on DS9:"A Man Alone"
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:02:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.063137.14670@mercury.cair.du.edu> mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
>DNA of a murdered man.  So the only way somebody could have gotten
>in and out if they left _no_ DNA residue was if that person was
>a shapeshifter.  The knife could have been solid as anything, and

Y'know, The moment I heard them say that, I thought to myself
"or a clone, or his twin", But I thought "Nahh" that's too silly.
Then when the doc started growing the clone I knew instantly.

I also liked the way that Odo gave *26* hours for the guy
to get off the station. Why? Because, obviously Bajor has
a different roational period. (But how did the FED's get
everyone to use a standard earth hour?)

(And how come everyone has no trouble using panels written in Cardassian?)
 
paul duggan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: trekker@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sanjai Dwivedula Rao)
Subject: Re: TOS computer voice
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:11:28 GMT

In article <9301210630.AA16618@cerebus.physics.utoronto.ca> news@shark.physics.ubfd.ca () writes:
>        Does anyone know who did the voice for the Enterprise computer in
>TOS?  Is it just my imagination, or does it sound like a very "digitized"
>Majel Barrett?

You're absolutely right!  Majel Barret DID do the voice for the TOS computer.
From: dunae@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Firing Phasers in DS9 [No Spoilers]
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:34:55 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <kbrill.0098@GACSTL.UUCP>, kbrill@GACSTL.UUCP (Kenneth Brill) writes:
>



 In an article, silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith        writes:
>>In "A Man Alone," Sisko fires a phaser "up," apparently as a warning shot.
>>Uh...
>>I hate to tell him this, but he's on a space station with a CEILING. Maybe a
>>phaser shot will dissapate in an atmosphere, but the Promenade's ceiling can't
>>possibly be more than 50 feet high! If this episode was done right, DS9 would
>>now be dead (or at least most of the major characters would be       , sucked out
>>(correction, sir, that's blown out        into space...
> 
> I suppose phasers abord DS9 have but one setting???? I have seen at least two 
> other phaser discharges on the Enterprise and I would guess a STUN setting 
> would easily explain it away. (I hate to tell you this....       
> 
> 
> 
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History Department                    Phone:  (604) 753-3245 (loc 2130)
Malaspina University College          FAX:    (604) 741-2667
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Phasers (all Starfleet Phasers at least) will not cut through metal unless
on a high setting (5-16).  Real phasers destroy the internal organs.
Anyway, the phaser was on setting 2.

			Alex Dunae
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky)
Subject: Re: KIRA LIST
Reply-To: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:51:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.120855.73@acavax.lynchburg.edu>  
parrish@acavax.lynchburg.edu writes:
> ADD ME TO THE GROWING LIST OF KIRA FANS! SSSSSSHHHHWING!
Me too I guess.

--
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not  
sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
-Richard Nixon 
Mark E. Brodsky				E-mail: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
Northwestern University                 or  markb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Evanston, Il.
From: varhus@be.seas.upenn.edu (Kristofor A Varhus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Spoiler Protection
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:37:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

No, this isn't another one of those articles about how everyone is
forgetting to put in their ^L's or blank lines, although quite a few
people have been getting pretty careless recently.

This is about putting the name of the episode, movie, whatever in the
Subject: line of the header.  Spoiler protection doesn't help when you
have to read into the article to find out what the poster is talking
about.  You're bound to get a glimpse of what is in that Next Exciting
Episode of Star Trek.

--
\_\_\_\_  \_\_\_\_  \_    \_  \_    \_      |     Kristofor A. Varhus 
 \_    \_  \_        \_\_  \_  \_\_  \_     |    varhus@seas.upenn.edu
  \_\_\_\_  \_\_\_\_  \_ \_ \_  \_ \_ \_    |
   \_        \_        \_  \_\_  \_  \_\_   |   University of Pennsylvania
    \_        \_\_\_\_  \_    \_  \_    \_  | Engineering and Applied Science

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: johnsh@rpi.edu (Echoes)
Subject: Re: Q
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:11:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.210734.8818@ctp.com>, dmend@ctp.com (Daniel J.
Mendez) wrote:
> 
> I just saw a repeat of the TNG show in which Q is after the girl who
> turns out to be also Q, and I am utterly disgusted. Is it only me, or do
> other people feel that the presence of Q detracts from the show overall?
> 
> I mean, this is series in which "science" plays a very important role and 
> an omnipotent being with a purported sense of humor creates just too many 
> inconsistencies: Why would he even bother to appear at an officers' meeting 
                  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> and tell them about his plan? Why would he ask their permission to meet 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> with her at all? 

How about, "because he wanted to?" C'mon, he's not a Data or a Spock, one
of those Star Trek Logical Beings(tm).  He's omnipotent and damn arrogant
about it, and that's what makes him a great character.

==========================================================================
 Hugh Johnson                     | 
 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | No text graphics, no quotes.  Just
 Troy, New York, USA              | pure, unadulterated wasted bandwidth.
 johnsh@rpi.edu                   |
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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN:Man Alone - *MINOR SPOILER* Was that who I think it was?
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <malinon.727683022@vincent2.iastate.edu>, malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo) writes...
> 
>Was the person that played the murderer in disguise Sean Connery?

     No.
     Scott Gorcey
From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Q: some background info needed
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:29:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


   Could someone please email me some background info on the "Q"
like what was the first intro to "Q", what did
the episode containm, why does he keep
showing up for this and that, why doesn't he just
destroy them all... Thanks in advance
From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Kira Fan List.
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:33:23 GMT
Organization: HNSX SuperComputers, Mtl, PQ


Since there are people out there who feel so strongly about
not wanting the list in r.a.s.c, then I will refrain from posting 
it.

One thing I would like to add is that I do not agree with the fact
that this thread is "inane". I do not recall seeing any other
thread which has generated as much response -- both postitive and 
otherwise.

So far the list has grown to 97 names, all of them had positive
comments about Nana Visitor's acting on DS9 and her God given good
looks. I apologize to those who are not comfortable with this kind
of discussion on a public access network.

And to the person who planned to start reading rec.arts.books instead
of r.a.s.c -- we'll miss you. :)


-- 
Ellison Chan, Comp. Sys. Analyst   
HNSX Supercomputers Inc., NEC Corp.
E-mail: ellison@SX.Mont.NEC.COM    
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: lindbe894@snake.cs.uidaho.edu (Kristina Lindberg)
Subject: Re: No room at the bar !
Organization: University Of Idaho.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:54:16 GMT

> If the Enterprise-D carries thousands of people (I'm sure someone
> out there will give me the exact number) then how come they have only
> one small bar (seating capacity approximately 30) and one bar maid  ?
> Isn't there a large queue on New Year's Eve ???

How do you know that's the only bar on the Enterprise?  Sure,
it's probably the most popular, but where does it say that
the Ten-Forward is the only bar?
From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Alien in STAR TREK XXXX
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:31:56 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <25JAN199309013989@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca> villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca (EXCUSE ME????) writes:
>
>What makes anyone think that every single life form in the 
>universe has to be a variation of the humanoid form.  

This is not just a problem with ST, but with all genre films and TV
(except the Lucas and Henson muppets).

It's just the limitations of makeup and the physical attributes
of the actors that play the aliens. If you can suggest a cost
effective way of doing other aliens, I'm sure the producers will
listen. Otherwise we're stuck with actors with bumps on their
heads or in rubber suits.




-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
Department of Astronomy                              Phillips Laboratory/GPOB
Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: kat6b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Kelly Ann Tetterton)
Subject: Re: English as earth's language....
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:12:47 GMT

It was my understanding (and I'm not exactly sure where I 
got this from) that English was the lingua franca of the
24th century, not simply the only language spoken on earth.
In other words, Picard would speak English in all business/
Star Fleet situations, but wouod speak French at home...