HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mat@dsbc.icl.co.uk (KID01)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: What Intel U*ix OS is this group aimed at?
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:35:12 GMT
Organization: International Computers Limited

In article <1gj53vINNq4s@alhena.usc.edu> ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>libove@libove.alf.dec.com (Jay Vassos-Libove) writes:
>
>>What Intel (80386, i486, etc) U*ix-based Operating System is
>>this newsgroup aimed at?
>
>All of 'em:
>        BSD386 (by BSDI)
>        Coherent
>        Destiny (RSN)
>        Minix
>        Nextstep 486 (RSN)
>        SCO Unix
>        Solaris 2.0 (RSN)
>        a few dozen SVR4 implementations
What you mean a few dozen ?
>        a few (commercial) Mach-BSD implementations
>        386-BSD
>        Hurd (RSN)
>        Linux
>        Mach-BSD
>
>Such a wealth of offerings, and the peasants still want Microsoft!!
>:-)
Do Microsoft produce a windows systems then ? 
Isn't their `````Windows''''' just a pritty GUN (Graphical User Non-Interface)

8*)

Matt


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.unix.bsd
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Xfree86, XS3 Mouse configuration
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:54:53 GMT

In article <CONKLIN.92Dec16131542@talisman.kaleida.com> conklin@kaleida.com writes:
> I have a serial Logitech Mouseman and Orchid F1280 which I am trying
> to use with Xfree86 and XS3 on my 386BSD system.
> 
> I have video working fine, but I am having trouble configuring the
> mouse.  Specifying "Logitech" in Xconfig doesn't work.
> 
> I started trying all of the different mouse types, and "Microsoft"
> works well (even the middle button, I thought Microsft Mice only had
> two) with X386mono, but not with XS3.  
> 

Try specifying "MouseMan".  I have no idea if it will work.

> What do I need to get my mouse working with XS3?  
> 

Bug the XS3 author(s) to to finish merging XS3 into XFree86 (:->).

XS3 is based on X11R5, not on XFree86.  XFree86 has hundreds of bug fixes
and enhancements that are not in XS3.

> --
> J.T. Conklin    Kaleida Laboratories, Inc.
>                 Mountain View, California


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 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Anyone got XFree86 running on a Trident 9000?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:46:51 GMT

In article <RAYMOND.92Dec15102202@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl> raymond@es.ele.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) writes:
> 
> A collegue has a SVGA adapter with a T9000 (trident?) chip. He thinks it
> should be T8900 compatible, because Windoze uses the 8900 driver, but he can't
> get XFree86 running.
> 
> So here's his question: is the T9000 backward compatible, or does it require a
> whole new driver for XFree86? Or, did anybody succeed in getting XFree86-1.1
> running with this adapter, and if so, what should he do?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Raymond
> 
> --
> Raymond Nijssen             | Eindhoven University of Techology
>        phone: +31-40-473373 | Department of Electrical Engineering
>        fax:   +31-40-464527 | Design Automation Section (ES),  room EH 7.16
> "WP is for morons"          | PO. Box 513, 5600 MB Eindhoven, The Netherlands

For reasons we never figured out, we were never able to get the Trident
driver working on the 9000 chipset.  I have the tech manuals on both,
and it should act like a 512K 8900C, but it doesn't.  Since I don't have
a 9000 board (and returned the borrowed 8900C that I used), I haven't
pursued it any farther.

If someone wants to actively work on this, send mail to us at 
xfree86@physics.su.oz.au.  We can add you to our beta team, so you can
get feedback from other experts.  My cohort-in-crime on the Trident
driver was Alan Hourihane <alanh@logitek.co.uk>, and I know he has access
to a 9000-based board (he tried to get our driver working on it).  I don't
know if Alan gets this newsgroup, so you can try contacting him and
see what he can figure out, if anything.

--
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"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: jting@napier.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Re: Xfree86
Summary: What is it?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:57:25 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: g88d4938@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR GE DOYLE)
Subject: viewer for gifs+jpgs
Keywords: viewer, gif,jpg
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:19:52 GMT

Hi all
 Know where I can get a viewer for gifs,jpgs etc that will work under X386?
 Thanx
 Greg
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.unix.bsd
From: dawes@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (D H Dawes)
Subject: Re: What Intel U*ix OS is this group aimed at?
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:35:05 GMT

In article <LIBOVE.92Dec14170609@libove.alf.dec.com> libove@libove.alf.dec.com (Jay Vassos-Libove) writes:
>What Intel (80386, i486, etc) U*ix-based Operating System is
>this newsgroup aimed at?
>
>The two postings I've seen so far are for Linux only, which
>is not necessarily transmittable to general i386 (and other
>Intel-based) U*ix'es at all.
>
>If this is only for Linux, please change the group name
>appropriately.

The group is aimed at any U*ix-based OS on Intel i386 hardware.  It's
just coincidence that the first two postings were from Linux users.
XFree86 (for example) is supported on SVR3, SVR4, Linux, 386BSD, and many
issues are common -- hence this group.

David
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Bug in line code using XFree86 1.1 and gcc 2.3.2
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:12:04 GMT

In article <JTSILLA.92Dec15221428@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu> jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (James Tsillas) writes:
> 
> The server will go into an infinite loop in x11perf when doing the 100
> length line with 1 kid (-seg100c1). This started happenning only after I
> recompiled with gcc 2.3.2 and will happen with and with NoSpeedup
> selected.
> 
> For the record I am using an ET4000 board with a line width of 1152. I
> have not tried a line width of 1024. Unfortunately I have dismantled my
> debug environment so I can't track this down soon.
> 
> -Jim.
> --
> 	***  James Tsillas  jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu   ***
> 	***      Work: (508)898-2800, Home: (617)641-0513        ***
> 	***        "He is after me. Jim is after him."           ***
> 	***            - Hop on Pop, Dr. Seuss                   ***

GCC 2.3.2 is broken.  Bob Scheifler of the MIT X Consortium reported
this to the Gnu folks.  There is no workaround, other than to back out
to GCC 2.3.1.  GCC 2.3.3 is supposed to be out "any day now".

--
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"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.i386unix:72 comp.unix.bsd:10417
From: sscalsk@nswc-wo.? (Stanley Scalsky)
Subject: Xconfig docs
Organization: NSWC White Oak
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:36:58 GMT

Is there any document that explains the meaning of the various keywords
within the Xconfig file? Some are self-evident but others like, DontZap,
Viewport, Pseudocolor or Videoram are not clear. I've looked thru the
release tree but found nothing of substance. Currently running Xfree1.1
under Linux 0.99. Thanks


stan       sscalsk@nswc-wo.navy.mil
From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: X11
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:18:26 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Dec15.023831.18450@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko) writes:

>Wise Men of the Net ! Where can layman get software to run X11 windows 
>on i386, including Unix ? (Available PC is connected to network not by 
>modem) Is there any FTP sites around ?

I assume you're asking for X11 *and* unix for your i386 box?  If
that's the case, my recommendation would be to get a copy of 386BSD
and run XFree86 on top of it.

You can get ahold of the stuff you need at agate.berkeley.edu or
gatekeeper.dec.com, among others.  It should be in the
/pub/386bsd/386bsd-0.1/ directory, or something similar.  There is
also a FAQ in the unofficial directory in the 386BSD stuff.  You can
subscribe to comp.unix.bsd for more help.  Hope that answers your
question...

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.unix.bsd
From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Xfree86, XS3 Mouse configuration
	<1992Dec19.104955.16073@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
	<1992Dec19.172946.10021@netcom.com>
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:56:17 GMT

>>        - He talk on the net as if he was the only one doing XS3 alone
>>        - The S3's graphics eingine differes only in one register from
>>          a 8514/A
>>
>>What he answered was:
>>
>>        - The README contains other names
>thomas forgot to mention that I cut and past my second statement on the
>README file  stating clearly that XS3 was based on Kevin Martin's server.

Isn't that exactly what I stated one line above ? But that wasn't an
answer to the question I raised ... See, if somebody asks for the
whether, you would answer 5:00pm, would you ?

>For instance, "Are you so dumb that", in reference to something he has
>no clue of what is going on.

Unless I haven't kept exact records of outgoing e-mail, I never wrote
that very sentence in this upper form. And if so, please cite from the
context so people can judge by themselfs. And if I have 'no clue of
what is going on', why aren't you so kind to enlighten my state of
disinformation.

>His intentions with respect to me are malicious.

Not really. It's just that in the last time you really penetrate the newsgoups
with answers to questions nobody has asked, and try to promote yourself
in a way that's a shame for the other people who did the work you started
with building XS3 onto. Technical discussions have been always imossible with
you and if ever happended, then the flow of information was more towards you
than the other way round. Well, you did a great work on XS3 for the
BSD/Linux community. But does give you the status of beeing sacrosanct ?

I know all this discussion should have happened in personal communication,
but I felt that it would be a desirable step to it in a open letter, rather
than a nonpublic thing, to bring back those people into the light who
also did a major part on a free X-server for the Intel-Platform.

But as 'commericial ass-holes like you' (guess how said this ;-)) I think
it's better to stop this here. What had to be said has been said, and I
honestly hope that it had the effect people who ask a specific question
about X will get their answer and not just the lastest self-portrayal of
a person will all know.

- Thomas

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: [Help] Xfree86, Trident, interlace
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:27:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.102720.3282@siemens.co.at> fuer@nessie.gud.siemens.co.at (Gerhard Fuernkranz) writes:
> My configuration:
> 
> 	- Xfree86-1.1 running under Linux
> 	- SVGA card with Trident 8900C chip, 1MB ram
> 	- NEC 3D monitor
> 
> The video modes 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 work fine in
> non-interlaced mode. But, due to the limitations of my monitor
> (max. 38kHz horizontal frequency) I use a dot clock of 45 MHz
> for 1024x768, which results in a vertical frequency of below
> 50 HZ (I'll get woozy, when I have to look at the screen for a longer
> time).
> 
> So I tried to design an interlaced video mode. I used the modegen
> spreadsheet, that is available under Linux to compute the parameters.
> I used a dot clock of 36 MHz, which results in a vertical frequency
> of about 43 Hz (which should be 86 Hz in interlaced mode),
> wrote the resulting configuration values from the spreadsheet into
> the Xconfig file an put the keyword `interlace' at the end of the line.
> 
> My monitor syncs, both horizontally and vertically, but the first of
> the two half-pictures appears on the top half of the screen and the
> second one on the bottom, i.e. everything is drawn twice and with the
> half height. There also is a horicontal gray stripe between the
> two pictures, which seems to be the v-sync, that is produced by the
> VGA card between the two half-pictures.
> The flickering picture lets me believe, that the monitor syncs at
> 43 Hz (i.e. every 2nd v-sync pulse) instead of 86 Hz.
> I also tried to to put `[+-][vh]sync' into the Xconfig file, but
> it did not influence the behaviour.
> 
> N.B.: Interlaced 1024x768 mode works fine under DOS and with
>       Linux' tvgalib.
> 
> Does anybody know, what's going on or what I have made wrong ?
> Are there special timing requirements for interlaced modes ?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> g.f.
> 
> --
> Gerhard Fuernkranz		SIEMENS Austria Corp.
> Email: fuer@siemens.co.at	Gudrunstr. 11
> Phone: +43-1-60171-5716		A-1100 Wien

Hmm.  I don't think we ever tested an interlaced mode when doing the 
Trident driver.  The appropriate register is being set, though.  Since
I don't have a Trident board any more, is there anyone using a Trident
who is willing and able to dive into the source code (with our help,
of course)?  If so, send email to xfree86@physics.su.oz.au to
volunteer.  We're also looking to folks to help get things working on
the 9000 chipset, too (forget about 8800 or 8900B - it's never going
to happen).

--
David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>  (908) 957-5871
AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ  07748

"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.unix.bsd
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Xconfig docs
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:41:11 GMT

In article <SSCALSK.92Dec18133658@nswc-wo.?> sscalsk@nswc-wo.? (Stanley Scalsky) writes:
> Is there any document that explains the meaning of the various keywords
> within the Xconfig file? Some are self-evident but others like, DontZap,
> Viewport, Pseudocolor or Videoram are not clear. I've looked thru the
> release tree but found nothing of substance. Currently running Xfree1.1
> under Linux 0.99. Thanks
> 
> 
> stan       sscalsk@nswc-wo.navy.mil


Read the server manual page, X386.man.

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David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>  (908) 957-5871
AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ  07748

"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Anyone heard of Pittsburgh Powercomputing?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:13:38 GMT
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto

Title says it all.

This company is listed amongst the companies providing third-party X
servers for Univel, right next to the more-familiar MetroLink and SGCS.

Who are these guys? Has anyone used their products? And why haven't we
heard more about them?

-- 
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
         "IBM's three letters are probably EBCDIC for CYA" - Nik H.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: jting@napier.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Re: XFree86 README (was: X11)
Summary:  newbie question 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:27:35 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Contacts for SVGA chipset vendors?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:29:36 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Can anyone tell me how to contact the following chipset vendors so that
I can get programming databooks?

	ATI
	C&T
	Cirrus
	Genoa
	Oak
	Western Digital

(I have Tseng, Trident, S3, and Headland.  Any others that I've left out 
would also be appreciated).

--
David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>  (908) 957-5871
AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ  07748

"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.unix.bsd
From: grw@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (George Wu)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Xfree86, XS3 Mouse configuration
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 06:00:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.175453.29962@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) writes:
>In article <CONKLIN.92Dec16131542@talisman.kaleida.com> conklin@kaleida.com writes:
>> I have a serial Logitech Mouseman and Orchid F1280 which I am trying
>> to use with Xfree86 and XS3 on my 386BSD system.
>> 
>> I have video working fine, but I am having trouble configuring the
>> mouse.  Specifying "Logitech" in Xconfig doesn't work.
>> 
>> I started trying all of the different mouse types, and "Microsoft"
>> works well (even the middle button, I thought Microsft Mice only had
>> two) with X386mono, but not with XS3.  
>> 
>
>Try specifying "MouseMan".  I have no idea if it will work.
>
>> What do I need to get my mouse working with XS3?  
>> 
>
>Bug the XS3 author(s) to to finish merging XS3 into XFree86 (:->).
>
>XS3 is based on X11R5, not on XFree86.  XFree86 has hundreds of bug fixes
>and enhancements that are not in XS3.
>
>> --
>> J.T. Conklin    Kaleida Laboratories, Inc.
>>                 Mountain View, California
>
>
>--
>David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>  (908) 957-5871
>AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ  07748
>
>"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
> other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton


  Can someone tell me what is X3 ?  Is it a X server for graphics
adapters based on chip sets form S3 ?  If so, does it support S3
86C805 and where can I get XS3 from ?


  Thanks

  George Wu
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.i386unix:85 comp.os.linux:21221
From: duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux
Subject: Has anyone gotten 1024x768 to work on ATI XL (OEM)? (plus WM's)
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:05:20 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

This weekend I'm happy!  I managed to get X running on my machine and it's
great!  My only (minor) problem is the fact that I haven't gotten the highest
resolution possible from it (640x480).  If anyone out there has an Xconfig or
has the numbers necessary tu run at 1024x768 or (at least) 800x600 can (s)he
mail it to me (or post it)?  It would really make things even better than they
are.

As an aside, what other window managers are available for this?  I'm not
particularly fond of TWM.  I chose SunView over it at work, even though the
rest of the office seems to go crazy over it.

Murphy & Co. (FYI):

I'm running Linux 97.6 (I'll upgrade as soon as there is a stable version of
tcsh available for 0.99)
-- 
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                          | do not represent those of this establishment
duperval@ere.umontreal.ca | That's because they don't have enough $$$
duperval@jsp.umontreal.ca | to afford them.  Noone does.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: sbartram@xzaphod.uucp (Scott Bartram)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of Pittsburgh Powercomputing?
Reply-To: sbartram@xzaphod.UUCP (Scott Bartram)
Organization: XZaphod in Rockville, MD
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:10:27 GMT

In article <2B309924.23C4@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>Title says it all.
>
>This company is listed amongst the companies providing third-party X
>servers for Univel, right next to the more-familiar MetroLink and SGCS.
>
>Who are these guys? Has anyone used their products? And why haven't we
>heard more about them?
>
>-- 
> Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
>         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
>         "IBM's three letters are probably EBCDIC for CYA" - Nik H.

I have used PPC's (R4) server for the Number Nine board on SCO ODT. It seems
to work fine. I think they have servers for several TI 34020(?) boards.

-- 
=======================================================================
Scott Bartram
sbartram@xzaphod.com
uunet!xzaphod!sbartram
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: 32K or 16M colours?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:04:26 GMT

In article <linda.724803368@minnie> linda@cs.su.oz.au (Linda Distributed Language) writes:
> Is anybody working on X servers for cards which display 32K or 16M colours,
> like the 2theMax et4000 based card and other extended et4000 cards?
> (the 2theMax will do up to 1280x1024x16, 1024x768x256, 800x600x32K)
> 
> 
> Thanks for any info,
> 
> 	David Monro

No one is actively working on this, that I know of.  It's one of my pet
someday-when-I-have-a-bazillion-free-hours projects.  I know several
other people have expressed interest in this.  We are always looking
for people who want to tackle projects like this join the XFree86 beta
team.  If you are interested, send email to xfree86@physics.su.oz.au.

Here's what I know about it:

	1) The cfb code with X11R5 was only tested at 8 bits, and is
	   known to need work to make it work with other depths.
	2) The assembler parts of the frame-buffer code in XFree86 were
	   designed for 8-bits, and will also need work.
	3) X11R6 will likely have 8-bit, 16-bit, and 24-bit frame-buffer
	   code.
	4) 24-bit SVGA is going to require a LOT of work (perhaps an
	   entire new framebuffer driver), because the 24-bit framebuffers
	   on most system (and the Xsun24 code I looked at) assume that
	   the 24-bits are aligned on 32-bit boundaries, and the 24-bit
	   SVGA's are aligned on 24-bit boundaries (think of the pixel-
	   addressing complexities here).
	5) The 16- and 24-bit SVGA modes are SLOW (1/2 and 1/3 the speed
	   of the 8-bit modes, respectively).

I would expect that a 16-bit server could be done by a dedicated group
without too much headache (lots of use of the XTEST suite will help :->).
The 24-bit stuff is going to be much, much worse.

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 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
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