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From: morgan@socs.uts.edu.au (David Morgan)
Subject: Request for Help/FAQ
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:03:37 GMT

Hi, this is for  friend,

 What is the closest place that I can pick up a copy of Linux and what
do I need to install it?  (East Coast of Australia)

 If this is a FAQ can someone tell me where I can get the FAQ list from.

Regards 
 David
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Up and Running linux
Keywords: Up and Running linux info. needed
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:20:01 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug26.175330.17630@pool.info.sunyit.edu>, ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:

| >>    4).  What's the major fugures of Linux?  Doesn't it support X on 386sx ? 
| >
| >    Sure does.  It may be a bit sluggish on 4 M of ram, and you'll definitely
| >want a swap partition, but it should work.
| 
| How about those Linuxers with 16-32 MB of RAM?  I haven't heard their
| experiences.  I wonder if they ever managed to run out of memory, except
| when compiling something big like Interviews.  :-)

  I compiled the kernel while running X in 12MB. I know it didn't swap
because I don't have swap enabled. Now I have 16MB and a faster CPU. The
CPU really helps, and a 387 helps (don't run X without it) on a slow
machine.

  I would like to add more memory, but I don't trust the disk code to
handle memory it can't access off the AT bus. No problem if the CPU does
the move, but if you use the bus mastering SCSI, or DMA on floppy you
lose big time. Until I read the drivers myself I keep to 16MB.

-- 
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    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: gt0449a@prism.gatech.EDU (Rob Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: bus mice and MGR
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:26:19 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

It seems as though the fervent talk about MGR has given way for X, but
in my quest for a graphical environment (and my possession of both a
Stealth and Trident card), I would like to get MGR running on my system.
The version that I was able to get ahold of (off sunsite.unc.edu)
appears to support my Trident 8900c card just fine, but I find no direct
support for a bus mouse.  My Logitech Bus Mouse (using /dev/modem) and
the included Microsoft Mouse driver (I was into experimentation at the
time) almost talked to each other.  I was able to get the opening
screen, the mouse pointer, and was able to move the arrow along the top
row of the screen (with a little effort, mind you).

I don't find it surprising that there is an imcompatibility here, but
I'd like to know if someone has had success with such a setup.  I'm
running 0.97pl2, so it's got the built-in bus mouse support.

Thanks!
-- 
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Comp. Sci.  ][ Georgia Institute of Technology ][        -Rush/COS
From: jong@edison.seas.ucla.edu (Jong Y. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: need help again..
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:25:16 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


Hi netters!

Okay, finally I installed mtools on my linux.  Now I'm trying to install
gcc version 2.2.2d.  I ftped all the files to my account(2.2.2ddb, 2.2.2dg1,
2.2.2dlib, 2.2.2dmisc, and binutils).  Since the files have to go through
dos in order to get my linux, I had to rename all those files to someting
simple and short.  And then I mcopied the files to my linux.  But then I got 
into a problem because I don't seem to have filenames longer than 14 chars in 
linux!  Just like DOS!  Now I can't run install.x.2 because it expects all
the source files with their original name.  I can't rename files with long
name to a shorter name.  Is that a bug?  Or is there a way to change the length of a file name?  
Thanks in advance!

Jongyoon

jong@seas.ucla.edu
jonglee@seas.ucla.ed
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ghostscript/ghostview errors
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:51:08 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <k2.714944357@woodstock>, k2@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger) writes:

| Yeah, but for both problems there are fixes posted in the bug group,
| and both are really simple. A more annoying problem is that the
| magnifying window with ghostview didn't work. (It pops up, but will be
| empty).

  The only "fix" for the Laserjet which works is the one I posted; don't
use the laserjet output. I tried all the others (and most were for
deskjet, not laserjet) without success. Doing output to a PBM file and
then using PBM to convert to laserjet format is possible, but it sure is
slow and cumbersome.

| Anyway, none of these problems are killers, so if you need some of the
| new features, get it. At least the new cdjcolor driver for the Deskjet 500c
| is a real step forward.

  I guess it all depends on how rich you are, if having to buy a
postscript printer to get decent output doesn't pose a problem, or you
don't mind sending out your resume with absolutely no white space
between lines, then it's not a stopper. My options were to find a way
around or convert the system back to DOS, so I found a hack for now, but
it's so inconvenient that I am going to roll back to 2.4.1 this weekend.
It's a stopper if you need the features that don't work.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: kxb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Writing a Matlab-type Package for Linux and On-Line FAQ
Date: 2 Sep 1992 20:36:41 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

You might want to take a look at the GNU Calc package for Emacs. I've 
not used it but my understanding is that is is pretty nice. Used with GNU
Plot you might have what you are looking for.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: Want to buy a linux PC...
Keywords: Buy PC
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:25:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.225111.18493@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu>, mike@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu (Michael A. Murphy) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.131307@tiger1.prime.com> cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep3.053121.21188@tamsun.tamu.edu>, n217cg@tamuts.tamu.edu (Scott Taylor) writes:
> >> I just read in the Houston paper that KLH has filed for bankruptcy.  If you
> >
> >Murphy strikes again!
> >
> 
> Will you _PLEASE_ stop blaming everything on me!   :)  :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael A. Murphy

Oops, sorry about that Mike B^).

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Ethernet drivers 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:05:38 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <GNAT.92Sep1191408@kauri.kauri.vuw.ac.nz> gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz writes:

   In article <#xdngk+@quantum.on.ca> aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd) writes:

   > Actually, the 503 is very similar to the wd (now smc) 8003 series of
   > cards - both use the 8390 NIC.  If you folks already have a driver for 
   > the 8003, you won't find it too big a job to support the 503 - just 
   > different locate and init code.  The runtime code is identical.

Well, that was WRONG.  First of all, WD has their own silicon, which
has different bugs than the National silicon.  Plus, the 3c503 when
I/O mapped has a 16 byte FIFO that you need to ensure is filled.
Plus, the wd8013e has a 16-bit interface that decodes its address
early and so needs to be read/written to with interrupts off.  The
3c503 is an 8-bit board, and the 16-bit version of it doesn't decode
its address early.

   Can I take this to mean that because the (almost undocumented) crynwr
   source for the ne1000 MS-DOS packet driver does an include of
   8390.inc, that implies that the ne1000 is also similar to the 8003?
   If I can, then does this mean that "making" an ne1000 driver would be
   similarly "simple"?

Right, it's not as simple as it seems.  However, as you've noticed
from the use of 8390.{inc,asm}, a lot of code can be shared.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com (Kevin W. Hammond)
Subject: The quick one-line patch
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com (Kevin W. Hammond)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:26:18 GMT

You had given out a one-line patch about incrementing i twice within a for
loop.  I did not retain the message and was wondering if you could give it
to me again.

Also, is it included in patch 1 or patch 2??

-kwh-
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mopar@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (neuliep michael ray)
Subject: need installation help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:18:07 GMT

Hello World!

     Please consider me linux illiterate.  I grabbed bootimage.97 and
     rootimage.97 along with all the other essentials from tsx-11.
     Upon booting the bootimage disk I get an error 

	SCSI Host 2 Timeout or something like that

     After reading a FAQ thingy it says I have my interrupts set wrong.
     Here's my HW setup:
			magitronic 386DX/40 w/64k cache
			seagate ST02 scsi card w/ 2 st296n drives
			16 meg ram
			one serial card, one cga card
     Could someone who has gotten linux up and running using the ST02
     please tell me how they have all their jumpers set on their scsi
     card and anything else special I need to know to get started.

     Please dont flame, I just dont know what else to do.

					-mike
					mopar@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gc@eng.cam.ac.uk (G. Chand)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: TCP/IP works (yippee) but still some problems : -(
Summary: TCP/IP 0.8 fixes for hanging FTP and TELNET
Keywords: TCP/IP, net, ethernet, telnet, ftp
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:58:10 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

In article <1992Sep2.201059.25216@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, nealstep@nexus.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson) writes:

|> 	I installed the tcp/ip package and it compiled without errors.
|> I then increased the number of pty's to 64 and mknod'ed all of them,
|> under the assumption that each telnet in used up one (is this right?).
|> I then rebooted.
|> 	I can now ftp out of the system perfectly, it works great and
|> since that was the main use, I am very happy (congrats to all
|> concerned). :-) :-) :-)
|> 	However, if I ftp in I hang. 

   There is a bug in the TCP/IP 0.8 code. The following two lines alleviate
the problem - in file tcp.c :

	in cleanup_rbuf() change 
		if (sk->timeout != TIME_WRITE)
        
	to
		if ( (sk->timeout != TIME_WRITE) && 
		(sk->state == TCP_ESTABLISHED) )

   While you're in that file you should also change a typo in tcp_close() so
that you have:

	sk->time_wait.len = TCP_WRITE_TIME;
	sk->timeout = TIME_WRITE;

about 20 lines from the end of the function.

   FTP will still hang for a few seconds, however, but a few seconds is better
than eternity IMHO ;-)

|> Also telnetting out connects to
|> the host and then locks up the keys at the password prompt. you can
|> however send a ctrl-d to end the login attempt (if it's a unix box) or
|> a ctrl-z for a vax, strange.
|> 	for telnetting in the same kind of problems are encountered.
|> if you telnet in to an account that has no passwd (horrible securety,
|> i know) it works fine. but if you try one that has a password it locks
|> up on the password prompt.
|> 	last few points. perhaps they are relevant. telneting out is
|> very stacatto get packets then nothing then packet. and after telneting
|> in when you log out it does not remove the name from the active users
|> list.

The above fixes do not help this problem. We have traced it down to an ECHO
disable request which has no corresponding ECHO re-enable. No password means
no ECHO disable and hence no problem! Telnetd probably needs a recompilation.

|> 	If all of these questions have allready been answered, if
|> you could let me know where I can find the answers I'd appreciate it.
|> 

   Try joining the NET channel -
send mail to linux-activists-requests@joker.cs.hut.fi for instructions.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student))
Subject: X and BusMouse questions .
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:08:41 GMT

Hi and kudos to all linuxers.
Some more questions ... ;)

1) I read FAQ, FAQ.serial, and RELNOTE.97 and could not
find out how do you create busmouse device (major,
minor). I understand it is probably created by .97 root
disk but do I have to download 1.2 M to learn how to do it ? ;)
2) I using MicrosoftBusmouse patch. Would above be what am I
suppose to do (ie: is /dev/mouse refering to busmouse
device?

3) To all X users. I've become one of them (finaly) - big
thanx to Rick Faith for his driver.
Now I've been playing with Xconfig and I thing I
undestand video.tutorial quite well. I can create any
setting and it works almost always. Problem is that my
monitor only sysncs at 31.5 35.2 and 35.5 kHz
(Magnavox-Philips 7CM321) and is interlaced. To get
better resolotions I have to use interlaccedness.
(spelling !) If I follow calculations to
create something around 1024x768 normally I get ~40Hz
refresh. Obvious from calculations I get screen flickers like
crazy. Now I need interlacdness. If I put 'interlace' in
flag field screen starts to flicker even more crazely!
So I thought (knowing nothing about interlacedness but
its dictionary meaning) I need to cut vertical timings by
half. Yeah, I got realy nice picture, but X thinks I only
have half the screen. It starts panning if I move my
cursor below half screen. Now picture is really nice seems
to be right resol'n and good refresh rate. If I drag a
window down its bottom part starts to disappar below 'bout two thirds
of the screen util my mouse hits half the screen when the
panning kicks in.

Please help! and thanx again for systems and patience!
(Year ago when I first saw X at school I would never
think I get it at home - and unix. Times change. Fast!)

				Rafal


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: a2824aj@sunmanager.lrz-muenchen.de (Guenter May)
Subject: Re: Which EtherNet to buy?
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:11:40 GMT

In article <Aug.25.20.49.58.1992.737@athos.rutgers.edu>, hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) writes:
 
|> The SMC Elite16 series is claimed to be compatible with the WD 8013.
|> (I heard a rumor that WD is no longer making cards, and SMC has taken
|> over their line, but I'm by no means sure of that.)

Yes, that's right. Several months ago SMC took over the production of ethernet cards from
Western Digital. The hardware of the SMC boards is the same as of the WD one's, only the
name has changed.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Lotsa Questions and some problems as well
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:14:36 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand

In article <GNAT.92Sep2112644@kauri.kauri.vuw.ac.nz> gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:

   1) While trying to install ps-0.97 with my 0.97pl2 kernel, compilation
      complains about not finding the symbol LIBRARY_OFFSET - I've grepped
      through all the kernel source and haven't been able to find this
      symbol.  Can anyone tell me where it is?

D'oh!  This will teach me not to read back in the group :)  
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/sources/sbin/ps097p2.tar.Z

Cheers;

Nat
(gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz)
From: Joel.Ward@f60.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: linix/bsd386
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:00:00 -0800

        Hey, what's up with this Linix thing?  Is it GNU's version of
UNIX?  Isn't someone else working on a public domain version of BSD for
the 386??
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From: ericy@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: What is a good PC CD-ROM drive for me?
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:46:35 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <l9au1iINN1ti@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>I'm shopping for a CD-ROM drive for a AT-bus 386.
>What are the good alternatives?  The major objectives of interest
>are:
>
>1. Linux on CD-ROM

	As things stand, you need a CDROM with a SCSI interface (the real cheap
ones do not have this.  The sound-blaster model does not have SCSI).  The audio
functions are not known to work because most drives implement a proprietary
command set for the audio functions.

>2. Other Unix source code CD-ROMs

	Walnut Creek CDROM is probably a good place to start.

>3. Kodak Photo CD
>4. USGS or CIA map databases
>5. Some PC CD-ROMs like those produced by National Geographic, etc.

	These questions are best asked in the alt.cd-rom newsgroup.
I know very little about the Photo CD stuff.  If you need this capability, then
you should find out more from someone who knows.

>
>I would prefer an external drive, because that frees me in
>terms of hooking it up to non-PC computers.
>
>What do you recommend?  I would prefer a low-end cheap drive, since
>speed is not important.

	Keep in mind that the real cheap drives can have seek times on the
order of 800ms.  If this is acceptable to you, then go ahead.

-Eric

P.S.  I am back from a week in Hawaii, and I am a bit jet lagged. I have
already fallen alsleep twice with my finger holding down the 'n' key, so I hope
that I have not missed anything critical from anyone else :-)
From: sundaram@cps.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: USING MTOOLS: Gives a "cannot initialize b:" error
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:59:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: sundaram@arctic.cps.msu.edu

Hi y'all,

I have a quick question about Linux Mtools. When I tried to do
a "mdir b:/." it gives me a "cannot initialise B:. " message.

What m I doing incorrectly?

Thanks 
Divya
(sundaram@cps.msu.edu)

(PS: Thanks to Peter MacDonald for setting me straight on some
problems *->).
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: ps for 0.97pl2
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 06:35:52 GMT

Thanks to all who responded with the location for ps for 0.97pl2.  I was able
to get it from tsx-11 and compile it with minimal effort.  I can now finally
see the processes running on my system!!!  :-)

-kwh-
-- 
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hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
From: hlu@poly2.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: mount & head problems
Keywords: mount, msdos, root disk
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:59:48 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Aug25.151834.26644@crd.ge.com>, davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug24.201130.16787@serval.net.wsu.edu>, hlu@phys1.physics.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu) writes:
|> 
|> | I hope it will be fixed in the next release.
|> 
|>   After a bit of research I have determined that this is one area in
|> which bash doesn't check to see if it was called bash or sh and behave
|> compatibly. The original author liked egregious messages and reports any
|> tem due to signal other than SIGINT. At least he didn't put in a
|> "NORMAL_TERMINATION" message like some operating systems...
|> 
|> -- 
|> bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
|>     I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.

Maybe I was wrong since people have indicated that was due to bash. But
stdio sometimes may try to write a closed pipe, very rarely.


H.J.
From: bir7@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ross Biro)
Subject: Re: Background processes not dying on parent exit
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:47:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.071011.15546@u.washington.edu> barr@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barr) writes:

>
>The processes are not supposed to go away unless they are suspended
>for some reason.  Another thing to watch out for: if someone logs in
>on the tty you were on when you started the jobs, they will get the
>output from your program.

	Since init now uses vhangup this won't be a problem.  Linux
vhangup should even catch references to the controlling terminal via
/dev/tty.

Ross Biro bir7@leland.stanford.edu 
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