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From: jfriedl@omron.co.jp (Jeffrey Friedl)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: telephones again
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:51:12 GMT
Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp (Jeffrey Friedl)
Organization: Omron Corporation

harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
|> 	To get a telephone in Japan one must first purchase the right
|> 	to have a telephone line.  This 'right' is called a kanyuuken.
|> 	It is yours for life (or until you sell it to someone else).

Here's another one for edict....
3243 467e 3822 [ ka nyu u ke n]
    /magic cookie that allows one to procure a phone line/

or maybe the translation should be
   /permission-to-procure-a-phone-line commodity/

or something else?

Grrrr. I'd spent several minutes looking for 'ka n yu u ke n' before
finally asking a Japanese friend about it. Grrrr.

	*jeff*
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M)
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:23:46 GMT

In article <justin.716354248@mik.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:
>(I'm from Thibodeaux, Lafourche Parish myself.. :)

	I heard that everyone and everything there
	was absolutely annihilated by Hurricane Andrew.

	My condolences...

					Touch not the oil,

					Gerard Vignes

-- 

pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:14:25 GMT

In article <justin.716354248@mik.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:
>In <1992Sep12.220956.26964@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:

>>	Neither America nor Europe
>>	has any right to or any business in
>>	pressuring Japan...

>Or any other sovereign nation, for that matter (not to hear THEM talk, though).

Well, if Japan is asking the USA's and western Europe's help in pressuring the
Russians to return those islands (and they are), then, yes, we have as much
right tell them what we think as they have.

>>	Any economic aid from Nippon to the FSU
>>	should depend exclusively on the outcome
>>	of negotiations between the two countries,
>>	and not on some presumed urgency or priority
>>	of US or EC goals.

><clap clap> Amen. This would certainly be a first in foreign affairs: 
>considering the nation(s) in question! >:(

So, you are against coordinating any sort of effort to help the former USSR
in solving its rather extreme economic situations.

>>				Does either America or Europe,
>>	before implementing policy in Asia, consult with Japan?
>>	So then how can Japan be expected to subordinate
>>	her most vital interests in the home region
>>	simply to avoid inconvenience to the West?

>Or, for that matter, does any nation ever consult with Japan about attitudes
>and/or policies regarding JAPAN!? 

Sure they do. Japan simply ignores them when she feels a) she wants to and
b) she can.

BTW, Japanese corporations are not too happy with their government's stance
either. They feel they will be left out of many of the development projects
going on now in Russia. Remember, most of the OED aid given to other countries
stipulates that ONLY Japanese or 3rd world companies can be considered for 
whatever projects are being planned. Specifically, US and European corporations
are actively excluded. Makes for nice, juicy, non-competitive contracts.

In any event, certainly western Europe HAS a large stake in the the stability
of the former USSR. A sufficiently massive failure in the democratization
process could result in another hard-line government in charge of one of the
world's largest nuclear arsonels. 

I like the Russian approach to the problem; each time Japan has turned spurned
aid to Russia, they sell some rights on the islands to some other government's
companies. The Japanese get upset, file protests, then have to pay MORE to those
other parties, and make other concessions, than would otherwise have been 
necessary.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: re: Tom Selleck'saseball love
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:36:31 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

Yeah, I heard that movie was being made last summer.  Personally, I would be
inclined to think that it's better than those tacky Hollywood 
White man/Asian woman love films.  Or actually was it made in Hollywood?
Well, at least it's a reprieve from the typical white hero + dehumanized
colorwoman syndrome.  As far as I'm concerned, all interracial love-films
are inherently ridiculous.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Help with art needed
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:01:50 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


>I have some additional questions:
>  1. I thought those were wood block prints (hanga), thus technically
>     speaking, they were carved and printed, not drawn.

   Ukiyoe was just like gravures in magazine and poster at the present
time. Usually the author drew, and the publish companies printed using
the craftsmen. Maybe some authors printed by themselves. 
   Now, an illustrator draws a illustration, and a publish company prints
it. I guess, it may be said to be drawn by the illustrator, not to be
printed by him.

>  2. What exactly is Ukiyoe?  For some reason I thought they were
>     paintings of various "women of the evening" and other entertainment 
>     related subjects.  Are Hokusai's and Hiroshige's Ukiyoe, too?

   Of course, yes.
   Ukeyoe is the pictures in which the lives and customs of common 
people were drawn in Edo era. Usually the subject matters were persons, 
for example actors, actresses, prostitutes, 'Geisha', etc. But after
1801, Ukiyoe of these themes reached a dead end. 'Katsushika Hokusai'
and 'Andou Hiroshige' opened the new field of Ukiyoe at that time.


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*      Hirokatsu Watanabe       *
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From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:45:35 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research


=> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert - that's me) writes:
=> 
=> > in more than 40 passes through Narita, I've only been asked to open
a bag once,
=> >when I had a pair of scissors in my briefcase going through the security
=> >gate on departure. Narita is certainly not ideal, and is often crowded,

In article <1992Sep10.145042.3570@acuson.com>, miklg@acuson.com
(Michael Goldman ) writes:
=> 	You dress better than I do. ;)

Hmmm.... this is curious. I doubt I dress better than anyone, and 
especially on long flights, where I wear the practical equivalent
of slippers and pajamas. Some Japanese people have mentioned that
I look like a professional wrestler though, so maybe they just
don't wanna mess with me :-0

=> 	I usually figure it is better to dress casually when taking
=> 	long flights, but when I did this on a trip to Japan, the
=> 	official looked me over, asked me what city I came from and
=> 	when I said San Francisco, he had me open _everything_ and
=> 	he closely went through everything but my tooth paste.  Ever
=> 	since, I dress _very_ well, say I'm from some city outside
=> 	San Francisco, and have had no trouble.

Ah.... San Furanshisuko.... ne? He was probably just looking for HIV.

In other posts, some people seemed to imply that the security and
immigration people at Narita are rude or something. On the contrary,
I think they're very professional. They just quietly do their business.
They won't small talk or seem openly friendly, but they just do their
job and do it well.... and quickly too.

- Bill Lambert
From: yunson@lpf.umd.edu (Yunson Du)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Followup: Chinese communists & Japanese Imperial Army
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:08:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <2575@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>yunson@lpf.umd.edu (Yunson Du) writes:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (deleted) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

>>You are on vacation, I am not. Sorry! I really cannot say more.
>
>How do you know if I'm on vacation or not?  Sorry, I really can't
>help wondering how you know all these things....
>
>Dave
>
>--
>Dave McLane 
>JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
>Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087

YOU said you are on vacation in reply to my first posting? Want
to deny? Or you have a bad memory? Or both?

You are the strangest person I ever talk to. First you said all 
you posted is not your opinion, it is THEIR opinion. Then you
emotionally defend it. And you state that opinion without any
solid supporting evidence. I did politely asked for that. Then you 
came up with some garbage ???evidence???. I find out that you really
have nothing interesting to say even though you claimed so. You
are having nice vacation, ha?

Enjoy by yourself!

Yunson Du
University of Maryland
College Park, MD


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: cause of US participation in WWII
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:15:55 GMT

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>As for a raid by Japan to dissuade the US from a long war with Japan, well, 
>that's basically what it was designed to do. Along with the attacks on the 
>US bases in The Phillipines, and the siezure of the Malaysian oil fields, the
>Japanese were planning to deal the US a devastating blow, ......

A rather US-centric reinterpretation of history (and geography).

The oil fields were in the (Dutch) East Indies (now Indonesia). Before the 
Phillipines were attacked, Japanese troops had landed at Khota Baru in the
British colony of Malaya, and in Hong Kong, and had siezed the 
"international settlement" in Shanghai.

While The US was always the chief target and enemy, the Japanese saw their
war was also against Britain (ans by implication Australia, New Zealand
and India) and against the Netherlands.

> It's no secret that we wanted in the European war. Any
>excuse Germany would have given us would have been eagerly pounced upon by
>FDR (IMO, rightfully so). The Pacific War was an unnecessary distraction to 
>us.

How attitudes change with time. FDR would certainly have liked to join in 
against Germany, but a very sizable proportion of the US military and the 
public were fiercely opposed to this. The Hearst Press was fanatically
pro-German, Joe Kennedy (then Ambassador to Britain) was sending back
an alarming and public stream of defeatist rubbish, Charles Lindburgh
was stumping the country, .......

Go back and read the campaign speeches of 1940.

From the point of view of Britain and German-occupied Europe in 1941,
it was to their immense long-term benefit that Japan attacked in the
Pacific, and that Germany (foolishly) followed up by declaring war on the US.

-- 
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Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Question about Jobs...
Date: 9 Sep 1992 20:30:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

I did a mass media-internship in Japan this summer.  The Japanese mass media
is composed of a million interrelated small production companies, and many
people work for two or three companies at a time, so the system is quite
organic in nature.  As far as I know, most foreigners in the media are either 
translators, fashion models, or radio DJs.  Such kind of jobs are entirely
about knowing the right people, so my recommendation to you would be to
take up a "standard" line of work, like translator/salaryman, and then
gradually branch out in that direction.  Most everybody in the mass media
is in a free-lance mentality anyway.
From: htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re. 4 Isl. and reinforced Isl.
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:36:39 GMT

Well from what I learned from the education system (6th
grade history in Funabashi) my impression of the issue
is that the Russians joined the allied forces late into
the war and went onto take the karafuto and krill isl
area's.  It seemed like they stole it...but then again
I learned this so long ago and the education system
probably was brainwashing me.

as for that Island that was down south and being
reinforced.  I think it is Okinotorishima.  I believe
it's eight the southernmost isl. or eastern most.
I saw a news story on it (I think in Japan) where they
were trying to save the island.  It's only about 3
meters in diameter. (No chance of a seibu dept. :) )
They said that that isl increased Nippon's fishing
territory by some huge amount.  But since the tides
were going to wash the island away in the next coupld
of years, they were operating some kind of rescue mission
They said they weren't allowed to buiild on the island
but where

but were allowed somehow to build a barricade around it.
It's funny since they spent probably a lot of money
to helicopter out these concrete bricks and built a
barricade around the island.   My question was:
Isn't that against some kind of international rule?
IMHO I think the nippon government should negotiate
some kind of deal instead of wasting money to save
about 5 square meters of land...but then again when
you mix nippon and land some crazy things happen...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: travelling
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:28:54 GMT

In article <89VwqB1w165w@wuntvor.norman.ok.us> jp@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (J.P.) writes:
>       Does the JR pass work for the Shinkansen?  If so, this seems like a
>good deal. Travelling from Tokyo to Shizuoka (In the area of Mt.Fuji) cost
>about 50 dollars.
>       Does anyone know if there are JR lines in Kyoto?
>       Are the JR passes available at most travel agencies, or do I have to
>make special arrangments?
>       Thanks for the help!
>
>
>--
>jp@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (J.P.)
>The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK -- +1 405 325 9607

I just bought one and read the brochure that came with
the voucher. I quote from memory:

1. the JR pass is good for ALL shinkansen trains except
for sleeping cars and private compartments (you may
upgrade, I guess, I don't have the info with me)
But to buy a pass just to go to Mt. Fuji from Tokyo? I
don't think it's worth. It'd be much less if you take a
limited express or other less speedy train.

2. JR lines go almost everywhere (from Hokkaido to Kagoshima,
Kyushyu).  They are also all over the Kyoto area.

3. Just call Makiko at the Japan Travel Bureau in Manhattan
(NYC) (212-698-4972); you can charge it and they will
send you the voucher by Federal Express. Same goes for
the air tickets ($928 at JTB vs. $1328 from UA or AmEx.)

Tony
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From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Foreigner in Japan.
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:30:54 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <PASCAL.92Sep8135345@ap22.apd.cpg.sony.co.jp> pascal@apd.cpg.sony.co.jp (Pascal Goguey) writes:
>
>	However, every time I have something to ask to a Japanese person,
>for example in the street, I get replied in English. Unfortunately, I'm not
>English, neither American, and I was wondering why the Japanese think like :
>
>	#define		white		American
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>	Do the Japanese talk to me in English because they don't like that
>foreigners speak their sacred language, or do they think that in any case,
>their English is better than the Japanese of a yankee-like foreigner ?
>
	This is JUST an assumption of mine.

		1945 Japan lost WWII
		     *LOTS* of American soldiers came
		     *MANY* of them were white
		     *MANY* Japanese were told that Americans had *far* better
		      life than the Japanese (TV, cars, etc)
		     *MOST* Japanese wanted to catch up with the US
		     *MANY* Japanese started learning (American) English 
		     *MANY* Japanese thought "America = better"
		     *MANY* Japanese thought "Americans = (mostly) white"
		     *MANY* Japanese thought Americans spoke English
		     *MANY* Japanese thought white people spoke English
		     *MANY* Japanese STILL think the same way

		     *MANY* Japanese know the German speak German and the French			speak French
		     *MANY* Japanese CANNOT tell the German from the American
		     *MANY* Japanese CANNOT tell the Frence from the American
		     *MANY* Japanese think Europeans are white
		     *MANY* Japanese think the Americans are also white
		     *MANY* Japanese think white people speak ENGLISH

	    Therefore many Japanese think ANY white people speak English.
		(I AM aware of the fact that not all Americans are white, nor
		 many European nationals.)

>	What would Japanese think if they were systematically replied in
>Chinese (which must be one of the first spoken languages in the world and
>which must be the first spoken language of Asian people) when they go abroad.
>
	I myself would say "sumimasen. chuugoku-go wa wakarimasen!!"  :-)
	And honestly, I would think that they just cannot distinguisha Japanese
	from a Chinese, nor from a Korean.  BTW, telling the truth, I myself 
	sometimes cannot tell whether an Asian-looking person is a Chinese, 
	a Japanese, a Korean, a Thai, a Vietnamese, or etc. 

					Tetsuya Nishimura
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@milton.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: O-hige  Re: Japanese Customs (not Immigration)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:37:18 GMT

Yoichi Ii writes
>> Moustache used to be fairly rare in Japan, but today I see a lot 
>> of younger men sporting facial hairs ... perhaps the influence of 
>> prince what-his-name :-).  Maybe a moustache by itself is no longer
>> a reason for a search ...

justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:
>   Okay.. But I thought one of the distinguishing features of most orientals  
>(especially Japanese) was a total lack of facial hair (I have seen a goatee  
>on a Chinese fellow though, and in all honesty, I found it most unappealing).
>Influence eh? Hmm.. Well, there are more curious phenomenon around.

No, not really.  Some Japanese have absolutely no facial hair but most can
grow hair to various degrees (some quite hairy).  Looking through some 
historical photos and paintings, I think there were times when facial hairs 
were in fashion in Japan.  A prince growing a moustache may be bringing it 
back into vogue.  That's what I meant by "influence", not some cosmic power 
to grow hair on people, although *that* would be pretty neat!  I can see a lot
of bald men from around the world paying homage to the Japanese prince {8-).

>   Anyone care to discuss why Japanese kids are such good dressers?  

They read tons of fashion magazines and have enough money to buy whatever
clothes they see in those.  That's my guess.  I myself wear cheap shirts
and jeans, and I don't care :-).

>   The first things one notices is that they're much smarter (and MUCH better 
>disciplined) then American brats. The next thing you get to is how um..  
>'upperclass' they look.

I'm glad the new Japanese plant had a positive effect and (apprently) left
good impressions on the local people.  I just hope it can continue to do so ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kth40861@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kirby Herazy )
Subject: Youth Hostels
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:44:18 GMT

I will be travelling to Japan on September 18.  I will study at Senshu     
University.  School ends on Dec 12.  From Dec 12 to Jan 3 I would like to
travel in Japan.  I realize this is the holiday season and it will be 
very busy.  

I would like to know how the youth hostels are as an alternative to
hotels.  Please recommend any other economical alternatives for sleeping
arrangements.


Thank you.
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:15:13 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <1473500056@igc.apc.org>, anlyyao@igc.apc.org 
(An-Ly Yao) writes:
=> 
=> If the needy cat lover is of western origin, here something, which might
=> be interesting for him:
=> 
=> {{w3A friend of mine is a divorce lawyer in Hamburg (Germany). He is
a specialist
=> for divorces between oriental women and German men. His first case was his
=> {own one :-), but he learned a lot about himself through that.
=> 
=> The main cause for trouble are contradicting expectations from both sides.
=> The oriental women quite often looks for an alternative to confucion machos,
=> the western guy tries to escape from the more liberated women in his
environ-
=> ment to the soooo sweet and obedient Asian girls. The result: work for my
=> friend.

I hope you understand that every marriage between Western men and Asian
women are not based on such stereo-types, and many quite to the contrary.

=> Quite probably the needy searcher still is not in the stage to think about
=> {marriage. I hope, he will find his pussy - who, as such, might show
her claws
=> when thr time is right.
=> 
=> meow!

I hope you also understand that the word "pussy" is American slang for
a part of the female anatomy that doesn't usually have claws.

- Bill
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:49:08 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

I was born in Japan and I stayed in US, Denmark, Germeny,.....
So I got tired of American, Danish, German.... and especially Japanese
women.

I REALLY envy you, Gerard.  Tell me why you are not tired of Japanese
women, PLEEEEEEASE. I have no hope.... sigh...



pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:
: 		Yes, and yet is it not also true
: 	that he who catches a rare and beautiful animal
: 	must care for her and appreciate her uniqueness
: 	least that precious gift be torn from his heart
: 		in punishment for his arrogance?
: 

I appreciate your instructive advice.  I did find the final frontier. :-)

A stray Japanese,
Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: u322543@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw
Subject: JP pro-baseball info needed
Organization: Computer Center, NCU, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:37:57 GMT

Hi,
  I am interested in Japanese ProBaseball. Will there some one send the
  message to this folder? Thanks.

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