HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: ACL Problem
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:36:14 GMT

In article <00963598.9E30D560.15229@shrsys.hslc.org>, simon@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG (Alan Simon) writes:
>I am trying to allow non-privileged users to edit a mail distribution list
>file.  I created an identifier called HNET_MGR, and granted this identifier to 
>the appropriate users.  These users are in the uic group [DRA,XXX].  I created 
>ACLs for both the mail distribution list file (ILLTF.DIS) and the directory in 
>which the mail distribution list file is located (SYS$USER0:[MAIL]).

>MAIL.DIR;1                    File ID:  (808,1,0)
>Size:            3/3          Owner:    [DRA,ANONYMOUS]
>File protection:    System:RWE, Owner:RWE, Group:RE, World:RE
>Access Cntrl List:  (IDENTIFIER=HNET_MGR,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+
>                    EXECUTE+DELETE+CONTROL)
>
>When these users try to modify ILLTF.DIS using EDIT/TPU, these users can read
>the file, but get the following EVE error messages when trying to save the file
>after editing:
>
>	Error opening SYS$USER0:[MAIL]ILLTF.DIS;4 as output
>	Insufficient privilege or file protection violation
>
>What am I missing?

The ACL on the directory file does not grant write access to the directory.
The one ACE you specified above is used to specify the default ACL which
will be placed on any new files created in the directory, but it does not
grant write access to the directory. For that, add another ACE just like
the one above, but omit the "OPTIONS=DEFAULT" phrase.

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "Women aren't as smart as they
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     think they are; they think we
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   really do."
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Tim the Toolman
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: julian@vscn08.cern.ch (Julian James Bunn)
Subject: Re: Plans for mixed Alpha/VAX cluster with common system disk?
Keywords: alpha vax vms
Reply-To: julian@vscn08.cern.ch (Julian James Bunn)
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:08:32 GMT


What worries me more about a mixed architecture VAX/Alpha VMS Cluster is
how the poor innocent users are going to sort out the confusion between
VAX and Alpha executables. I assume DEC will provide solutions for system
logical name tables etc etc for MAVCs, but I bet they wont for the default
login directories. The particular problem I see is if the user logs in to
the Alpha node in the Cluster one day, re-compiles and links all his source
files, then logs in to the VAX node in the Cluster the next day (why should
he care what architecture he happens to get?) and wonders why he gets 

Image file VXCRNA::DISK$C:[JULIAN]COUNTER.EXE;20
Image is not an OpenVMS Alpha image

Perhaps one could define a LINK symbol in sylogin that, for the Alpha
node, directs the .EXE file into a subdirectory [.ALPHA_EXE] ? But this is
messy, and probably not what the user wants. Defining different directory
trees depending on the node type is no good either, as it defeats one 
advantage of a cluster, which is to share the data. Unless ... there was some
way of linking the source files together, and keeping the excutables and object
files separate. 

Has anybody got any bright ideas ?
 
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Email: julian@vxcrna.cern.ch
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc
From: mats@efd.lth.se (Mats Akerberg)
Subject: Re: Changing DECW PauseScreen background?
Organization: EFD, Lund Inst. of Technology, Lund, Sweden
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:04:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.191005.5083@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jhautala@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jim Hautala) writes:
>    I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to change the DECwindows
>   Pausescreen background? Is it similar to the way you change the login
>   screen??
No it isn't!

I got The following from Paul Winalski (@ DEC) Thanks Paul!
 
>This code is public domain--feel free to use it or modify it to your heart's
>content.


/* SMPAUSEWINDOW.C - Routine to find the Session Manager pause window for   */
/*                   DECwindows MOTIF on VMS.                               */

#include <decw$include/Xatom.h>
#include <decw$include/Xlib.h>

static int SmPauseHandler(dpy, e)
    Display *dpy;
    XErrorEvent *e;
{
    /* ignore errors from GetWindowProperty */
    
    return 0;
}


Window SmPauseWindow(dpy, root)
    Display *dpy;
    Window root;
{
    char *pause_window = "_DEC_SM_PAUSE_WINDOW";
    Atom pause_window_atom; 
    Window *wid;
    Window retval;
    Atom type_returned;
    int format_returned, status;
    unsigned long num_items_returned, bytes_remaining;

    /* enable handler to trap errors (especially BadAtom) */
    
    XSetErrorHandler(&SmPauseHandler);

    pause_window_atom = XInternAtom (dpy, pause_window, True);

    status = XGetWindowProperty (dpy, root, pause_window_atom, 0, 1, False,
				 XA_WINDOW, &type_returned, &format_returned,
				 &num_items_returned, &bytes_remaining, &wid);

    /* disable the handler */
    
    XSetErrorHandler(0);

    if ((status != 0) || (type_returned == None))
	return 0;	/* XGetWindowProperty failed */

    retval = *wid;
    XFree(wid);
    return retval;	/* Success */
}

--
  Mats Akerberg, System Manager (mats@efd.lth.se),(MATS@SELDC52) on Earn/Bitnet
  Lund Institute of Technology ,School of Electrical Engineering and  
  Computer Sciences. Snail: Box 118  S-221 00 Lund Sweden
  Phone: + 46 46-109847 FAX: + 46 46-104013
From: SK0001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (Sal Kabalani)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: File Management utility
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:29:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ACAD.01GR2LTWD6SI000TNW
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello All

I am considering writing a file management utility for internal use on our
corporate VAX. This utility would have some of the fucntionality provided 
by LIST in the DOS world.

It will be used primarily to manage files (delete, move, edit, list, print, and
other simple functions).

I have two main questions:

1- I loaded a FOO.DIR file into TPU and looked at it. It contains all the
   filenames in the directory FOO, plus some other information. I am assuming
   this information is date/time, size, location on disk, etc. for each file in
   that directory. Does anyone know what is the format for the records in
   FOO.DIR directory ?

2- I dont want to re-invent the wheel. I there is such a utility that does what
   I need, I would like to consider it, instead of writing my own. Does anyone
   know if such a utility exists ? I would still like to know the FOO.DIR
   record format, for educational purposes, if nothing else.

   Thank you for your responses.

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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Task to task decnet problem
Date: 9 Nov 1992 05:36:31 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1dkkscINNptf@manuel.anu.edu.au>, bear@nuc.anu.edu.au (Bernhard Fabricius) writes:
Sorry.  In my last message I meant, of course, NETMBX, not TMPMBX.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: FNEWS Users?
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:17:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: bestsd.12NOV199208175545
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Hello -

I would like to correspond with FNEWS users who are successfully using it 
to post articles. It's a great interface but I am having a problem posting 
with it. Thanks ...

Mike 

Mike McCurdy			Disclaimer:
VAX Systems Management		     
San Diego State University		"Everything I say may be wrong."
mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu
From: vance@lpl.arizona.edu (Vance Haemmerle )
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Q: UCX proxies (rlogin, NFS) (inbound? dup records?)
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:07:38 GMT
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.

In article <6NOV199209274091@robot.nuceng.ufl.edu> sysop@robot.nuceng.ufl.edu writes:
>This may be a RTFM question, but I get UCX through the CSLG, so I don't have
>a FM.
>
>I have rlogin working fine outbound from the VAX to both a Sun and a
>Silicon Graphics (eg:  rlogin/user="user"/terminal_type="vt100"/lower node)
>but I can't get inbound rlogins to work.  The VAX always asks for a username
>and password.  I saw someone else post the same problem, and he (M. Berman)
>had tried using dup records with lower case to test for possible solutions.
>I HAD NFS proxies working ok, but now it doesn't seem to work either.
>
>Can anyone tell me how to correctly define the proxies for inbound rlogins,
>how to make dup records (because I have more than one account on the VAX that
>I would like to rlogin into), and perhaps shed some light on the NFS proxy
>SNAFU?  Remember, I don't have a FM.
>
>Thanks.

  Sorry, but UCX rlogin for VMS will always ask for username and
  password.

  From the "FM":

  DEC TCP/IP Services for VMS  (System Management)


  4.4.6 Managing the Remote Login Server

  "...Only logins to remote UNIX nodes can be automatic (no password
  required) and need to be managed.  Logins to remote VMS nodes follow
  the VMS interactive login which prompts for username and password."

  Vance R. Haemmerle                           vance@lpl.arizona.edu
  Support Systems Analyst, Senior
  Lunar & Planetary Lab                       -Adults pay their bills-
  University of Arizona
From: bnosc@vmspros.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: SCSI and /or SCSI-Multihost-Cluster ??
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:24:31 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Bruno Egger of egger@mpi-fg-koeln.mpg.dbp.de writes:

>we are planning to realize a SCSI-Cluster in the near future. We want to
>connect our 2 Vaxstations 3100 Modell 30 and 38 via a CMD-
>Multihostadapter. Therefore i've got the following questions:

Digital doesn't currently support clustering over the SCSI bus. What you would
need is an SCS port driver to communicate between the systems, which doesn't
currently exist (at least outside of Digital - no doubt they've tried it).

The port drivers currently supported for clustering over busses are:
	PADRIVER	"CI type" ports, e.g., CI, DSSI, where the port is 
			intelligent, and can directly access system memory
	PBDRIVER	BVP port (BI VAX port) Used for BI systems with a CI,
			or disk or tape attached to the BVP
	PEDRIVER	Ethernet ports

There are also SCS port drivers for communicating to local devices:
	PIDRIVER	KFQSA port (DSSI controller on a Qbus)
	PUDRIVER	UQSSP ports (Unibus, Qbus Storage Systems Port, e.g.
			RQDX3), with disk drives, where the driver fakes out SCS
	PTDRIVER	UQSSP ports, with tape drives, again the driver fakes 
			out SCS

I can tell you from experience, that writing an SCS port driver is one of the
most difficult tasks you are ever likely to encounter.

If CMD provides you with an SCS port driver, then things will probably work,
though I haven't heard that they've done this.



Brian Catlin, Closed Loop Control, Inc., VMS Internals Consultants
"Why do we need UNIX [eunuchs] ?  We don't even have a harem"



Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: lars@prima.met.kth.se (Lars Hoglund)
Subject: Re: Problems with MX 2.3
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:47:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.161750.4807@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de> braun@decstb.in.tu-clausthal.de (Andreas Braun) writes:

   Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Path: kth.se!sunic!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!news.netmbx.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!math.fu-berlin.de!Sirius.dfn.de!solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de!decstb!braun
   From: braun@decstb.in.tu-clausthal.de (Andreas Braun)
   Lines: 44
   Sender: root@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Operator)
   Reply-To: braun@decstb.in.tu-clausthal.de
   Organization: TU-Clausthal
   Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:17:50 GMT


   We have problems running MX-Mail V2.3.1
   It's impossible to *receive* Mail through MX. The SMTP-Agent receive the 
   messages but they aren't delivered to the Users.
   When someone send Mail to the VAX, hundred's of files are produced in
   the "[mx.queue]" Directory. It doesn't stop until a shutdown of MX.
   Everything is configured right i think. But here is the CONFIG.MCP
   file:

   We are running VMS V5.5.

   What goes wrong? 

   --
	   Andreas Braun                                                    
	 ------------------------------------------
	   TECHNISCHE UNIVERSITAET CLAUSTHAL                   
	   INSTITUT FUER INFORMATIK                              
	   braun@decstb.in.tu-clausthal.de






upgraded to UCX 2.0 ?   upgrade to MX 3.1 !
/Lars


Lars Hoglund, Dep. of Phys Metallurgy, KTH, Sweden
From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Installing software
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:10:48 GMT
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <6204@tuegate.tue.nl>, frankp@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Frank van de Pol) writes:
> Hello, 
> is there anybody that could help me with the following problem:
> 
> I want to 'install' some utilities that have to get their parameters from
> the commandline. For example 'ZIP -E TEST.ZIP FILE1.TXT FILE2.TXT'. If I 
> try to run this using 'RUN ZIP -E etc.', I get some error from DCL that tells
> me that I give too many parameters. 
> 
> Running the install program, and giving a 
> 'Create/open/shared sys$sharedprogs:zip.exe' command to register the zip.exe
> program to system doesn't cure the problem.
> 
> The answer could be obvious, but I'm new to VMS, and I've no system manger
> to give me the support (I'm my own system manager...). So _please_ respond.
> 
> Regards,
> Frank.
> 
> 
> ========================------------------> 
> #define NAME    "Frank van de Pol"     /| :  a typical PC boot sequence: :-(
> #define ADDRESS "mgr. Nelislaan 10"   / | :  tick, tick, tick, .(etc)., tick
> #define CITY    "4741 AB Hoeven"     /--| :  bhuurrrrrr, bruzzzzzz, pieereep
> #define COUNTRY "The Netherlands"   /   | :  doggadoggadoggadoggadogga brrrr
> #define EMAIL   "frankp@stack.urc.tue.nl" :  530 kB free memory (of 8MEG???)
> 
> 
-- 
Frank,
 
What you need to do is define a DCL symbol which points at the 
image to be executed. For example, the following command is used 
in my LOGIN.COM to setup a symbol for KERMIT, which has the 
capability to get its paramters from the command line:
 
        $ KERMIT :== $ KERMIT
 
KERMIT happens to be in SYS$SYSTEM, so I do not need to specify a 
device name. In another case, where the applications program does 
not reside in SYS$SYSTEM, I use the command:
 
        $ SETUPLABLST :== @ FREDDISK:SETUPLABLST

FREDDISK is a logical which points to a directory where all of 
the production software is housed.
 
I hope that the above is helpful. If I can be of further 
assistance, please feel free to contact me.
 
- Bob
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From: GRAHAM%DRCV06.decnet@DRCVAX.AF.MIL ("DRCV06::GRAHAM")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Thanks, and an explanation.
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

First, a very hearty thank you to the more than a dozen who answered my 
query about running Oracle 6.0.27 on VMS 5.5.  A friend who does subscribe 
to this list told me that there were some complaints about my asking for 
help and not subscribing to the list.  Allow me to briefly explain.

I'm blind and use a Dectalk talking terminal to do my work.  This list has 
subh volume that, if I were to listen to every message that came over 
looking for the ones which answered my questions, I'd not get much work 
done.  Listening is far slower than reading visually.  Also, there are so 
many header lines and signature lines and lines of dashes and equals signs, 
etc. that take a long time to listen to, that I'd never get to the meat of
a message before I got disgusted and quit.  I can filter out a lot, but the 
sheer volume would be daunting.

I'll try to keep my queries to an absolute minimum, and apologize to any 
who are offended by my not subscribing.  When I used to be able to see, I 
did subscribe, and enjoyed it tremendously, but now that I'm blind, well, I 
have to do it this way.

Thanks again for all the assistance.

Dan Graham
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Kerberos for VMS, part II
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1


	Yes, you voted for him, and now Bill "Trust me" Laut is
	making more promises he oughtn't keep:

In article <1992Nov9.030832.1@alien.gici.com>, laut@alien.gici.com 
(Bill Laut) writes...
# 
#	Hello again, everyone!

Hiya Uncle Bill!

#	Back before the "flicker fight" started, I had posted an article,
#mentioning that I was working on a port of Kerberos to VMS.

TGV Incorporated has already got a fully functional and working Kerberos
on VMS.  Their incomparable support and excellent quality make it the
best choice for a win-win in TCP/IP and Kerberized security.

MultiNet and Kerberos is available from them at 1-800-TGV-3440 or
sales@tgv.com.  Tell 'em I sent you and they'll throw in a FREE
envelope around their already-free 30-day demo.

#For everyone who is still interested in working on the "Kerberos for VMS"
#project, please post or e-mail me.  Especially, if you wouldn't mind doing 
#some of the work and/or have an old MicroVAX that you can temporarily 
#"donate" to the project, that we can run the software on as things develope.

Try MultiNet and kerberos from TGV.  It's even working on my Alpha!


#Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
# 
[Bible-thumping deleted]

Ehud

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@aces.com
I liked it so much I BOUGHT the company.

Hi Joel!
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: skinner@cshl.org (John Skinner)
Subject: How do I send a control-c to another process?
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:41:24 GMT

Here's my situation: I have a 2 process system. The parent process
is a graphical user interface written in C/Motif. This controls
a fortran program that used to be command-line driven. The old fortran
program used to trap control-c's. How can I get the gui to send a 
control-c to the child? The unix function kill(SIGINT,pid) does
not support the same fuctionality under vms as it does under Unix.

Thanks,
John

-- 
*****************************************************************************
John M. Skinner   Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton N.Y. USA
e-mail : skinner1@bnl.gov
*****************************************************************************
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Easy Way to trap for Control-Z In VAX C?
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <01GQZFW3KCAA8WW9G8@NKUVAX.BITNET>, FINLEY@NKUVAX.BITNET 
(Kevin Finley) writes...
..
#This program doesn't trap control-y/c or control-t because the Queued 
#Input Output (QIO) services don't,

	Incorrect.  IO$_SETMODE!IO$M_CTRLCAST or CTRLYAST
	are documented in section 8.4.3.2 of the I/O users
	guide (p.8-44).


	Ehud

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@aces.com
I liked it so much I bought the company
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sysmgt
From: dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent)
Subject: Re: HELP: how to stop and prevent break in?
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 00:32:08 GMT

In <69356@cup.portal.com> Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:

>When you say "the files... have two owners," are you saying that when you 
>see

>	OWNER=[my,WHO]

>you believe that the file is owned by two people, named "my" and "WHO"? 
>If so, I believe you are mistaken.  Files under VMS have only ONE owner, 
>and I've never heard of ANY contortion anyone can go through to change that.

>I believe you are merely seeing the file's ownership information expressed
>as a Group and Member -- [GROUP,MEMBER] -- rather than as an Identifier --
>[IDENT] .  And I further believe that this is caused by the absence of an
>Identifier for the file's owner, in the system UAF.

I think the user is probably seeing something like [ACCOUNTS, FREDBLOGGS]
which is NOT caused by the lack of a user identifier, but by the presence of
a group identifier - a rightlist entry for [groupnum,*].
(as far as I can remember without a VAX right here).
>Chris Chiesa
>  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
       Internet: dent@DIALix.oz.au    Compuserve: 100033,3241
From: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: HELP!! need SID for 4000 model 90
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:08:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Nov9.200808.15722
Reply-To: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



Here/s the output from our VAXstation 4000 Model 90 

$ write sys$output f$getsyi("SID")
318767618
$ write sys$output f$getsyi("xsid")
67174402




--


William M. Jackson
Workstation Product Marketing Manager
Workstation Engineering
Digital Equipment Corporation
146 Main Street
Maynard, MA 01754

Mail:	Jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms