From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: AIDS and all that jazz
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:18:22 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <101846@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
>
>I've said it repeatedly: increased transportation, and incorrect Western
>medical procedures.

This is rubbish. The first time that large scale migration of people  stopped
has been this century, since the partition of Africa into countries. In the
last 100 hundred years fewer Africans have moved than at any comparable time
in out history. This is especially true in central which is a relativley 
recently populated area.

What is more, AIDS is an urban phenomena in Africa where as the opposite would
be the case if it was an "indigenous" disease. Secondly, the place where there
is likely to be "wrong" use of western medicine is the rural area, yet up to
a year ago (when I had my last statistics, the incidence their was still near
ly 0% of all cases, except in Uganda). 

Secondly AIDS in Africa apeared after 1982. It appeared more or less simul
taneously at the same time in urban areas of central Africa. Lastly, why is
it that if AIDS was an African disease that A.Americans and others in the 
diaspora did not have high infection rates??????

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>I believe "slim disease" goes back to the seventies.

Even more ignorance. Slim disease, was to Africans any condition in which
the patient became emacited. This due to many illnesses, such as TB of the
bone. Further more, I know many people who suffer from one slim condition
or another but are not hiv+. 

Any disaese whic deprives a patient of an appettite long enough will ema
ciate them. Also, there are many diseases in the western hemisphere which
emaciate patients but are not AIDS.
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>>>Sure they do.  The same as the heterosexual term.  The only reason English
>>>has words like "homosexuality" or "heterosexuality" for the two notions
>>>is because doctors in the 1800s discovered homosexuality and needed a
>>>clinical term to describe it.

First of all this is ridiculous. Homosexuality WAS not discovered by the
english in the 1800. Greco-Roman history reaks of it and it is displayed
in almost any book from that age in europe. Julis Ceaser, Napoleon,
Beethoven (or Morzat or Both) were all homosexuals. This is a long
standing europena legacy.
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>
>I recall one anthropologist, I think in Nigeria, discussing the boys that
>he had observed.

Even the saying that he who looks for fault finds nothing else could not 
hold.......


  In pointing out the non-existence of homosexuality and
>bestiality, he mentions that the concept exists, but no one would do such
>a thing.  For support, he mentions one conversation he overheard that went
>like (in translation) "I'd like to screw that girl" in a rather crude
>manner, and to cover this, someone joked "What, instead of screwing a boy
>or goat?" and everyone laughed.


What is this speculation. This man was looking for holes and couldn't find
them and therefore resolved to speculate.

>
>This sort of thing is beyond language.  If you want to describe sexual
>acts between men, and don't have a word, you just use the words for
>sexual acts between men and women and name the participants.
>(I don't have the book handy, but I can provide an exact reference if you
>like.)

It seems to me that you won't accept even what this fellow of yours 
said.

>
>You didn't understand what I was saying.  "Homosexuality" is an artificial
>word, introduced into the English language by doctors, who took the term
>from German doctors, where it was just as artificial.

This is gabbage. Sodomy is an age old european occupation.
They haven't stopped it since they began it in Sodom and Gomorrah.

>
>-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)



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