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From: whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: What the hell is a Hoya?
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:52:01 GMT
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Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

"Hoya" is the Latin word for "What".  This originated about 100
years ago when the Georgetown football team crushed some Ivy
League type team.  The losers said something like "Saxa Hoya!"
meaning "What rocks!".  Why they spoke in Latin is a mystery to
me, but that is unimportant.  The Georgetown people siezed upon
this expression as a mantra.  Figures they would end up calling
themselves the "Whats".  Go Duke.

-Will
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke tops AP and USA Today/CNN polls... Michigan tumbles
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:06:30 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <7879@news.duke.edu>, eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>Agreed. By the way, who coached the Development Squad?

Southern Cal's George "Un" Raveling, I believe.
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Cherokee did a good job at being big."--Thomas Hill, on Duke's center vs Mich.
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: tOSU announces contract extension for Randy Ayers
Keywords: Is it really better to steal good jokes outright?
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:32:14 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

>
>> implies in the column that this "bad blood" between JJ and CL might be
>> driving JJ's thirst for $21.5 million over 6 years which is similar
>> $21.8/6year deal that Laettner received from the Timberwolves.
>
If anyone watched the Celtics/Timberwolves game last night, they
saw that while the critics of the Shaq may have been a tad
pre-emptory, the critics of CL were just as hasty. Everyone's
"Is It Just Me Or Does This Mirror Make Everyone's Forehead Look
Neanderthalic"  Poster Boy is doing just fine as a pro. Granted,
it was against a front line playing in wheel chairs, but CL will
obviously have a fabruous, simply fabruous, pro career. (Even
Luc Longley looked good. Say Goodnight,Red.)


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From: rlharrin@unix.amherst.edu (Rich Harrington)
Subject: Re: Georgetown beats RISOB
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:23:06 GMT

kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu wrote:
:       It's no secret that Georgetown's early scedual is a cake walk,
:       it would have been easier but they had to drop the Rhode Island
:       school for the blind.Kidding aside,Georgetown always plays tough
:       in Big East games but what have they done in the big dance?.
:       Look at their post season record for the past few years and you'll
:       know why Thompson want's to quit.Last year they had Mourning inside
:       but no experience to get him the ball.Now they have a more experienced
:       back court and a new bigman in Harrington.Well, I can't wait to see
:       the Hoyas play some real teams, nothing is better than watching G'town
:       lose.

   The anchors on ESPN this afternoon were absolutely ruthless about G'town's
pre-conference schedule.  I think everyone on the network had a snide
comment.  Not that I think they don't deserve it, really...   :)

--
           Rich Harrington -- Probably not related to Othella
rlharrington@amherst.edu	   "Whatever happened to the Hessians, anyway?
rlharrin@unix.amherst.edu	       You never see them around."
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: More Duke anti-woofing?
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:51:38 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Dec15.170626.27169@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill) writes:

>I believe, solidly, that UNC will be lucky to stay within 50 of Duke come
>February 3.  I think solid performances from "Rock Solid" Bobby Hurley,
>"Solid as a Rock" Grant Hill, and Thomas "More like a solid mountain than
>a" Hill, will doom the Heels.

Old Rob Sez:
 Yes but Kevin "Water Soluble" Salavadori will swat otherwise solid Erik
"Hands of Stone" Meek into the middle of next week.  Antonio "Clang" Lang
will not be able to contatin a liquid performance from George "Doesn't Flinch"
Lynch.  G.Hill will be thinking of something else after a gaseous performance
by Brian "Doesn't Crease" Reese.  And Cherokee "Chief of" Parks "and
Recreation" will be unable to stop a striped performance by 'O.L.E.M.
  Final score: UNC 2, Duke 0.
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Cherokee did a good job at being big."--Thomas Hill, on Duke's center vs Mich.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UW-Milwaukee makes it 2-0 at Wisconsin
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:33:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Last night the UWM women's basketball team slipped by Wisconsin 78-77 (I
think that was the final--it was by a point) to give the little commuter
college two wins at the Fieldhouse in four days.

I don't know much about the game except that Erica Young, who is having a
terrific junior season, made a free-throw with less than 2 seconds left to
give the Panthers a one point lead. Wisconsin tried a long full-court pass
after the FT (or if she had another one and missed it, that one), but it was
intercepted by Pam Bartnik and UWM had the win.

Wisconsin has a fairly tough women's team this year so this go in the pretty 
big upset category. While the men's game was more of a tossup, the UW women
were probably easily favored over UWM. Of course Barb Franke, who had a great
year as a freshman with about 12 points and 7 points a game, is out for the
year with an injury.

The men beat Northern Illinois last night to improve to 6-0 on the year. 
Although the Panthers let down a little, they still had enough for a 78-71
win. Next up, UWM hosts Western Illinois Saturday night at the MECCA.

--salty

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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Recruiting: Comments
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:53:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.134921.5037@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <BzGrFt.L73@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>>>10. Rashard Griffith (7-1 C): Bill Cartwright, Joe Barry Carroll, 
>>>				Kevin Duckworth
>>
>>	Ouch.  Some pretty ominous comparisons.  Each were good players, but
>>	probably some of the most maligned centers U could think of.  Hope
>>	Griffith makes a name for himself.
>
>Damn, Jazzy beats me to a punchline again...  I was about to moan about
>this comparison, but somebody else did it for me.
>
>I was wondering if I'd have to go through 3 or 4 more years of a Joe
>"Cry-baby" Carroll...

	Well, JBC was one hell of a college player, and led his team
	to a Final Four berth.  He was also the number one pick in
	the 1980 draft.  He was a model citizen in West Lafayette.
	If Rashard does 75% of that, he'll be sainted in Madison.  The
	Illinois folks are still smarting on this one.  The local sports
	editor almost has everyone brainwashed now into believing that
	Rashard was misguided because he didn't listen to Sonny "Lunatic"
	Cox, and that Thomas "Tub of Goo" Hamilton is actually better.
	I noticed today in Robert Clough's recruiting compilation that
	nobody else thinks so...

	Kevin Duckworth was arguably the best player to ever don the
	uniform of the Eastern Illinois Panthers.  Cartwright was a
	force in college at SF.  What the hell does later pro production
	have to do with how someone's college career went?

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Kentucky MASH'ed Louisville
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:02:09 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <Bz7KvL.DzB@ucunix.san.uc.edu> mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore) writes:
>
>>Right now I see no reason why UK shouldn't get at least a few #1 votes,
>>though I doubt they will move above Kansas or Duke.  Perhaps after the
>>IU game, people will begin to see that this team is for real.
>
>Is the "REAL" UK the one than bounced Louisville, or the one that lost
>to EKU in everyway except for the score?

Correction -  UK "lost" against EKU for 38 minutes.  It won against EKU
in the final 2 minutes.  Fortunately, it had stayed close enough for the
previous 38 minutes to put itself in the position to win the game, which
it did, although not comfortably.

I suppose you could say the same thing about Duke - the Blue Devils won
by the same margin against Rutgers that UK did against EKU, but seemed
to have its hands full.  Does that make Duke "unreal" too?  Hardly.

Every team has off nights, and every good team has some problems getting
motivated for teams it "should" beat more handily.  But the good teams
come through, as UK did against EKU, and also manage to beat other ranked 
teams convincingly, as Kentucky did against Georgia Tech and Louisville.
 
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From: rpandey@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Rajeev Pandey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: BYU Report: BYU vs. Weber State
Keywords: BYU basketball
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:35:01 GMT
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Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
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In Article 2418 of rec.sport.basketball.college:
jsnow@moons.sim.es.com (John Snow) writes:

> Dec. 28		Far West Classic		Portland, OR
>		  BYU vs. Oregon
> Dec. 29		  BYU vs. ?

 The ? should be either Oregon State or Ohio State, depending on who wins
 that game (or loses it, depending on what BYU does). 


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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Looking ahead... Aftermath of Dream Game
Date: 13 Dec 92 06:45:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Kentucky:

Clearly they have survived some nasty challenges.  Ahead is a relatively
weaker schedule leading into SEC play (And thus very dangerous): UK *SHOULD*
win their next 4 fairly handily, but the IU game is as always a toss-up.

Louisville:

Can they recover?  They must get ready for a game against unranked/unskilled
DePaul who will surely be looking for a big win.  Really, the Cards don't
have much of a respite in playing good teams, they will face Georgia Tech and
away at Maryland.

Mike
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From: jdd@wheezer.wustl.edu (John DeHart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Bobby Hurley
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:18:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO

In article <8100@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>In article <57385@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>>running cross country and playing
>>basketball require different types of stamina. Training for hoops by running
>>cross country is pointless, you are a lot better off running a series of
>>short(90 feet or less) sprints or just running liners. 
>
>Hmm...this is very interesting.  The question is, would cross-country training
>hurt a basketball player? I know that Philly's Simon Gratz high school 
>(where Rasheed Wallace goes) requires its hoops team to be on the cross-country team.  
                              ^^^^^^^^

Is this really true? How can they possibly REQUIRE this? Thats taking spots on
the cross-country team from kids who might actually WANT to run cross-country.
And what if an athlete wanted to play football and basketball?

John DeHart
jdd@arl.wustl.edu
Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 15:16:16 EST
From: Marcin Krysinski <MRKRYSIN@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Maciej Zielinski

Hi there!
I come from Poland what justyfies my quoestion. Is there anybody who can write
me how Maciek Zielinski from Poland is going? He is probably in the Providence
University basketball team.I come from the same city a he does,from Wroclaw.
Marcin Krysinski.
MRKRYSIN@MTUS5 or MRKRYSIN@MTU.EDU
From: richt@meaddata.com (Rich Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Kentucky MASH'ed Louisville
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:30:45 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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In article <39.149.uupcb@tfd.gwinnett.com>, gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com (Gil Levitch)  writes:
|> 
|> to them, ie. Jerome Harmon (who wouldn't go to class), Alan Houston who
|> Denny graciously let go to Tenn. with his father, and a bunch of prop
|> 48'ers who made B averages their Freshman year at U of L, NOT taking
|> crip courses.
Not true, If you remember, he first fought it, but then allow Alan to go
know that he wasn't going to come out looking like roses.
|> 
|> Nonsense. The Rozier technical was uncalled for,
Nonsense to your nonsense, it was VERY called for.  He was taunting 
the opposing team.
|> 
|> Lord knows, Matt, UK doesn't need anymore negative press. U of L has
|> never had any.
Wrong again, in the middle 80's.  20/20 (or some other national TV mag)
did an investigation into Crum's graduation rate.  Nothing ever came of
it but Crum basicly said he was there to prepare these boys for the NBA,
not for life outside basketball.  
|> 
|>  gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com
|> ---
|>  . DeLuxe. 1.21 #607s . 
|>                                                                                                                         
Rich 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: howiegbk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jr Howard Mea Turner)
Subject: Re: Richmond Spiders
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:57:05 GMT

In article <28719@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>>>       If Dick Tarrant had Dean Smith's bench - he'd win the NCAA.  End
>>>of story.
>>
>
>If Dick Tarrant is as good as you say, he won't be at Richmond much
>longer....  Some big bad school is going to swipe him from good ol'
>Richmond.

> Steve Williams                           swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil



	I think Dick likes Richmond.  He is fairly well paid, and well
loved by the Spider Faithful.  But seriously, check out his record in
the NCAA's and NIT's.  A summary . . .

	5 NCAA appearances - 1 Sweet Sixteen
	4 NIT's
	4 CAA titles
	8 20 win seasons
	224 wins (118 at home0

Not bad for 11 years work.  Incidently, UR only has about 5,000 students.

	Other noteworthy teams in the CAA:
		Old Dominion
		James Madison (Lefty Driesel's team)
		George Mason
		Navy (in the David Robinson years)


GO SPIDERS GO !!!

Howard
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From: foerster@batgirl.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Recruiting - Big West
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 21:08:34 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC


They got a lot of players.

Bakir Allen               6-4  2G  Santa Monica, CA              UC-Santa Barbera
Cornelius Ausborne        6-1  PG  DeSoto, TX                    New Mexico State
James Cotton(#127)        6-5  WF  Bellflower, CA                Long Beach State
Chris Dade                6-0  PG  Oceanside, CA                 Cal. State - Fullerton
Brian Hocevar(#99)        6-7  PF  Cleveland, OH                 UNLV
Akeli Jackson             6-7  PF  Gardena, CA                   Long Beach State
Adam Jacobson             6-1  PG  LaCrescenta, CA               Pacific
Josh King                 6-6  PF  Sacramento, CA                Cal. State - Fullerton
Jameel Mahmud             5-11 PG  West Covina, CA               Nevada-Reno
Seth Meyers(#77)          6-6  WF  Steelton, PA                  UNLV
Everett Ratleff           6-2  2G  Long Beach, CA                Long Beach State
Larell Redic              6-11 C   Las Vegas, NV                 UC-Irvine
Denmark Reid              6-0  PG  Portland, OR                  Portland
Tony Schumacher           6-1  PG  Kennewick, WA                 Utah State
Jermaine Smith(#63)       6-2  2G  Mouth of Wilson, VA           UNLV
Darrnaryl Stamps          6-7  PF  Oakland, CA                   San Jose State
Marmet Williams           6-5  WF  Santa Ana, CA                 San Jose State
DeVaughn Wright           6-7  PF  Santa Ana, CA                 Cal. State - Fullerton

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: The All-Terp Team Final Results
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:55:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.164053.36123@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu  
(MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN) writes:
> Here they are, your all time best terp basketball players
> Name- Number of Votes

You forgot to include that you think Gary Williams is God again.

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Is Laettner gay?
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:33:02 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1CW=hR-@engin.umich.edu> (Ken) writes:
>Does anyone have any info about former Duke b-ball player Christian
>Laettner?
>I heard that he was gay.  True or not?
>Thanks for the information.
>Ken

Hey, Ken, Christian is currently a pro player.  So unless you are talking
about a college's all-time team, the appropriate place to discuss pro
players is rec.sport.basketball.pro.  Please move any discussion of this
topic there.
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From: wbarnard@slate.mines.colorado.edu (BARNARD WILLIAM NORCOM J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Recruiting - SouthWest
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:38:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

jayakris@translab.its.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
<stuff deleted>
:    Penders seems to have absolutely
:    no clue on coaching any inside play. Panama Myers and Locksley Collie
:    showed no improvement during the two years at Texas. Dexter Cambridge
:    (who Dick V said was going to be the next Larry Johnson !) also went
:    the same way. It was pathetic to see Cambridge trying to throw up three
:    pointers rather than going inside.  The only decent inside guy that Texas
:    has now is Albert Burditt (a highschool McDonald All-American) who is
:    wasting his years under Penders. I dont think Penders can convince any
:    self-respecting big-kid to go to Texas, and I think that is what hurts
:    his recruiting. In other words, his incompetence...
: 
<more deleted>
:    He is developing quite a reputation for his incompetence !
:    I sincerely wished he would leave Texas last year.. oh well...
:    (But, then again.. He did take us to NCAA four times and to final-8
:     once. May be I should thank him for whatvere he has done to a no-name
:     program !  At least, his teams have been decent. )
: 
:    Sorry to digress and ramble on.
: 
:    GO HORNS !
: 
:    Jay   (still upset at the way the horns lost to the tarheels...)

Having said this, Jay, what is the attitude (as far as you know) of the 
school and the fans towards Penders?  Also, how secure is his job? 


		Will

Hook 'em! 
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