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From: bkannan@ha06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: religious talks
Date: 15 Aug 1992 11:54:00 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



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Hmm! I wonder why people would leave behind a peaceful,
religious, rational (thinking intact), contented, part of the world
to reside in a heartless ("holy hearts"), irrational,
scientific world full of knife-swinging war mongers?
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  And you thought this country wasn't "religious"..
  This,from someone that stays close to the Bible belt!!
  Maybe, I was wrong about that.

  Fanatics belong in every community.
  No, Science ain't irrational. "Scientists" can be.

  Religion is primarily based on faiths, beliefs. 
  Some truths too. This needs to be recognized first.
  The problem is when you try passing it [all] off  as
  "truths" or "facts" as scientists say.
  Clashes are a result of egos ,-> prejudices and "fear".
  All of  'em can exist without "religion".

  BTW, they don't use knives no more in this SCIENTIFIC
  land. Guns do the trick!

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As for my personal choice, 
1. I have no desire to deal with the 98%.
2. I have no desire to be a part of the world
where things have degenerated so much, that the most
imporatnt issue in the government is to decide whether
a mosque/temple has the right to survive
In MY EGOTISTICAL IRRATIONAL opinion, I would like to
see a playground built there for children (and maintained).
3.  I would not want my kids to go to schools where
learning is no longer important.  Passing exams (even
if it means rampant cheating with the aid of teachers)
is th order of most schools.  Added to that, teachers
punish kids by physical abuse (beating, kneeling etc.)
for ridiculuous things as forgetting to bring a book etc.
4. I wouldn't in my SEXIST opinion raise kids in an
environment that portrays male children as a symbol
of gift and females as a burden to parents.
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      Good! Forget India! And Indians too!
      Oh Yeah! You may include SC*I* too.
      The same old religious & religious MCP's
      dominate this group ;or so you might say. 

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p.s. For those people who have deduced that I am a
                                            ^^^^^^
"NAZI FEMINIST"/"ANTI_RELIGIOUS SCIENTIST" etc. etc.'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
please continue to add to that list.  In doing so
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am more and more convinced that I made the right
choice.  At least here, you don't total to be 98%
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       Inoculation makes for an excellent political
   strategy. Only that it might not work everywhere.
   Everytime.

>savithri

   BK
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:23:03 EDT
From: <DXA4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Death of a Poet

Shocking and must be condemned in strongest terms. The culprits must be
punished for their crime.

Dinesh Agrawal...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: jkrishna@diana.cair.du.edu (Jai Krishnan)
Subject: Looking for Anantha
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:14:35 GMT

Hi,
	I am looking for a friend of mine Ananthapadmanaban.
	He was doing his M.S. in Operations Research at
	Virginia Tech. He started Spring '92. I lost contact
	with him after he changed appartments. If you know
	him, please let him know that I'm looking for him, or
	please let me have his info (Tel # etc.)

	Any information can be sent to
	jkrishna@diana.cair.du.edu.

	Thanks in advance.
Jai.
From: nagabhus@aludra.usc.edu (Vasuki N)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: test
Date: 13 Aug 1992 23:13:42 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <l8ldpdINNfdr@aludra.usc.edu> vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu (Deep Third Man) writes:
>Hey!
>
>What have we here?
>
>Another splinter group of SCI?
>

>
>That was the arguement against alt/soc.culture.thamil,
>
>right??
>
>Vasuki ("Lankan Tamils call Indian Tamils Pichaikari") Nagabushan where are 
>you when we need you?
>
>
>
>- Vaseeharan




	Our objection to These splinter groups was based on the understanding
that the "Tamil news group" would be troubled by the postings of
srilankan terrorists. And if you look at the postings in tamil group, you
can understand our apprehensions. I believe any differences have to be
discussed and resolved. If Indians start behaving like yugoslavians,
very soon there wont be much to cry for. We sitting here are not going
to solve the political problems of our country. so let's not kid ourselves.
Atleast let us not have disharmony here among Indians. If anything,
our discussions should be constructive and focuss on what we can do
for land of our birth and land of our residence. At the same time,
we should keep out terrorist elements from spoiling the network.

	Hope that explains our viewpoint ?






Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: lsingh@engr.UVic.CA (Lakhwinder  Singh)
Subject: Re: Where Programmers are...
Reply-To: lsingh@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 02:12:30 GMT

In article 16908@cc.tut.fi, jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia) writes:
>
>In article <10455@wrgate.wr.tek.com> nagesh@loowit.wr.tek.com (Nagesh
>Rao) writes:
>>
>>Software Developers and their Managers by country in 1990
>>---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Country			Programmers	Managers 	Total
>>-------			-----------	--------	-----
>>USA			1,693,200	253,980		1,947,180
>>USSR			1,445,000	216,750		1,661,750
>>India			1,252,500	187,875		1,440,375
>>China			  990,000	148,500		1,138,500
>>Japan			  850,000	127,500		  977,500
>
>
>Maybe this is explaned with the size of population.
>I would like to see a similar list listed as percent
>from the total population of country.
>
>I think (guess) India is far at bottom with China.
>
>Where was Finland? Augh.  :-)
>
>
>Juhana Kouhia

Among the US programmers, how many are Indian, or rather of
Indian origin? Any idea? :-)
From: ratan@titania.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Tamil and other PJ
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:44:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Chicken joke:

   Why did a chicken cross the road

             To prove a  point

   Why did many chickens cross the road
     
             to prove a line

   Why was the tamilian angry

          because he was Anger (a tamil brahmin's family name
                                     Air and Anger)
From: wcidbo@daedalus.corp.sgi.com (Pratik Jain)
Subject: Re: JOKES (AJEET)
Reply-To: pratik@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics I/S
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:41:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.195025.21809@njitgw.njit.edu>, rks0741@hertz.njit.edu (Shingala Rajesh) writes:
|> Some of you might have heard this jokes, but for those who have not....
|> 
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> What are Ajeet's three favourite things??
|> 
|> first is MONA
|> second is SONA
|> and third is MONA Ke saath SONA.
|> 
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> RAABERTS : Boss,Boss lily ka typing bahut kharab hai!
|> 
|> AJEET   : Koi baaat nahin uske haath kat dalo.
|> 
|> RAABERTS : per Boss haath katne se kya hoga.
|> 
|> AJEET : Koi baat nahin, uska shart-hand acha ho jayega!!
|> 
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Keep smiling,
|> 
|> Rajesh Shingala.


Read this new one in the latest India Today:

Ajeet has decided to proceed to Ayodhya for Kar Seva to absolve himself of the 3 sins mentioned in the first (above) joke.

Mona, Raabert, Maikal: Baas, lekin hamaara kya hoga? Hum to Christian hain!
Ajeet: Ghabraao mat. Manmohan Singh ke paas chale jaao, partially convert ho jaoge!!

Enjoy
-Pratik Jain
From: slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: voltage converters for running Indian appliances in U.S.
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:16:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: slahiri@jade.tufts.edu

In article <19272@ector.cs.purdue.edu> avr@cs.purdue.EDU (Andrew V. Royappa) writes:
>Hi there. We recently brought over an Indian food processor (Sumeet)
>and are now trying to locate transformers/converters to allow us to
>run this appliance here. It is a 400W appliance, runs on 230V/50Hz AC.
>Electricity here in the U.S. is 110V/60Hz. 
>
>I have been able to locate transformers that step up 110V to 220V (they
>cost about $60-$70). However, I'm not sure if this is enough, and am not 

Buy a new (i.e. american) food processor. It may be cheaper you know ...
Glad that I can help !!

-Sandip
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: anilk@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: SCENE in BOMAY
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:23:53 GMT

In article <17524@autodesk.COM>, shrirang@Autodesk.COM (Shrirang Moghe) writes:
> 
> Dear Netters,
> 
> Does anybody know what is the F1 visa scene in Bombay ?
> How easy, how difficult it is ? 
> What has been the most frequently asked question that has been
>   difficult to answer ?
> What really does a first/second/third time refsual mean ? - has it
>   happened that after a few rejects an applicant gets a visa ?
> How many times can an applicant go for a personal interview and
>   how many times can an application be made through the mail ?
> 
> 
> Thanx for your answers.
> 
> shrirang
> 
> shrirang@autodesk.com

It appears that the embassy is significantly more frugal with F-1 visasa this
year. None that I know have made it without financial support from their
University, even with full monetary backing from their families. One of my 
friends, who showed family support was turned down with the query "why do you
want to spend Rs 12 lakhs on an education that can fetch you a mere Rs 10K job when
you come back?" How do you answer a question like that? On the other hand,
people that have funding from the school don't seem to be in any difficulty.
Rejections automatically impose a time gap before which you can reapply. With
each reject the severity of the terms increase. A 3rd reject bars you from 
applying for the  particular semester ( You might have to verify this). I have
no information on the rest of your queries.
Hope this helps.

AKP
  
Newsgroups: osu.indian,soc.culture.indian
From: sundar@cis.ohio-state.edu (N Sundar)
Subject: Accomodation needed for 2 months
Originator: sundar@violin.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: cmh
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:31:10 GMT


This is a posting for a friend of mine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Accomodation is needed for two months or so in Columbus vicinity for a 
young Indian male,name of Samad. Indian roommates preferred. Willing to 
share rent & other expenses. Prefers a room for himself, if possible.

Contact at: 299-2641.
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Sundar.
From: dsr@balboa.eng.uci.edu (D.Sreenivasa Rao)
Subject: Re: On the birth of Andhra Pradesh (was Re: I HATE TAMILS)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:07:29 GMT

vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes : 
>In article <2A94081D.20417@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dsr@balboa.eng.uci.edu
(D.Sreenivasa Rao) writes:
>> 
>>     1st October 1953 : Andhra was formed.

>      Methinks you are in error here; it must be 1st *November* 1953.
>      Don't we celebrate "Andhra Pradesh AvathraNa dinOthsavam" on 
>      1st November every year? Or is it that 1st November is the date
>      the AP as it is today (including Nizam districts) formed? If the
>      latter, did it take just one month for Telangana to join in AP?
>      Looking for some more info.
>
>      Siva Prasad.			vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu


     No, I got the date right - October 1953 was when Andhra was
     inagurated by Nehru with capital in Kurnool. TanguTUru 
     Prakasam was the CM, and Sajiva Reddy the deputy CM. [This
     ministry fell in Nov. 1954 on the issue of prohibition.]

     Meanwhile, in the 1952 elections in Hyderabad state, Burgula
     Ramakrishna Rao became the CM. After repeated attempts by 
     many leaders of Andhra and Hyderabad states, Nehru formed the
     States Reorganization Committee (SRC) in Dec. 1953. The 
     Commission felt that "the advantages of the formation of
     viSAlAndhra are obvious, and nothing should be done to impede 
     the realization of this goal". It however, recommended a 
     6-year waiting period for the merger. The Commission's report,
     (about other states as well) were not received well by the 
     public. The congress high command had to retract its previous
     support for the report. 
     
     Eventually, an agreement was reached between the leaders of the 
     governments of Andhra and Hyderabad, and the state of Andhra
     Pradesh was formed on November 1st, 1956, with Sanjiva Reddy
     as the chief minister. 

--sreenivas--                                          [8/20/92]

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.travel.air
From: mece8o@Jane.UH.EDU (Srinivas Vadde)
Subject: Re: Travel on THAI: SOme questions
Reply-To: mece8o@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:42:57 GMT

Hi:

I just got back from India (Cal.) a week back.  Thai does offer accomodation
in Bangkok. I stayed in Quality Pinnacle Hotel. Unfortunately, Thai did not
pay for food  and drink in the Hotel when my travel agent told me they would.
Check it out before you leave for India.  Thai also provides transportation to
and from the hotel. I had got the ticket for $1418 for all this during 
june-july'92. 

You can easily add $60 at least for your expenses in Bangkok alone (visa plus
airport tax, excluding food).  Food in the hotels is a ripoff. Go out to eat.
Several joints nearby most hotels.  In addition you need a passport size 
photograph for your visa (2-one each way). If you get them taken there it is
$3 per snap or 70 Baht. Visa costs 300 Baht. Airport tax is 200 Baht.  Try 
finding out if you can get a Visa from the local Thai embassy ( I do not know
but it might turn out to be free - but may be a pain to procure).  Airport
transit visa is cool (5-10 minute deal).  Thai-Airways is definitely 
wonderful. Excellent service.  I enjoyed it.  The only problem is that

it is a  very long journey due to all these stop overs (once in Bangkok and
once in Tokyo). Flights are generally on schedule. Anyway it is just two
hours from Bangkok to Calcutta.

Have fun

Srinivas
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:09:31 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Aug13.225915.22115@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>>
>>Armindamji!
>>
>>Krishna is not a guru! You may want to interpret it like that, but
>>in Hinduism guru is not equivalent to god!
> Where did I tell Guru=God?
>
>What action do you contemplate against Swami Yogananda who said
>Krishna = Prophet?
>

We tell the rest of the guys that swami yagananda has gone mad
and further tell others "guys! you are not intellectually deficient 
and you can think yourself without some guru in your head! Your
understanding of eternity is something personal and it is simply for
you to explore." 

>> I think by your insistence
>>about this prophet and that we find some Guru making factories, you
>>are insulting us! We do not believe that we need some professional
>>spiritual goonda
>
> That's what you have now. We have a Prophet=Guru whose physical body
>is long dead.
>
Okay! you have one! But why bother us with this nonsense! If you want to
have and infinity of them have those number too! But why bother us by
telling, "I am having a guru, my guru is up for sale, will you buy him"

>> to lead us to salvation! Our Atmans are capable
>>of that meta-physical achievement.
>>
>
>>Come on! You can spare us from this! We do of course understand
>>that your religion makes preaching an important aspect in spiritual
>>life! But remember doing it on the street itself is intimidating!
>>Doing it here is vulgar to say the least! 
>>
>
>Oh, where are the ideas supposed to be propagated!

The best place for all such things is bath room! When you are alone
do that preaching please!

>
>>PS: I had an american grad student who refused to go to an 
>>interview at Bringam Young, because he felt that he will
>>be continually horassed and preached to by the Mormans
>>everywhere he goes.

>Why can't you take it as just another idea!
>>

What idea, being horassed by religious fanatics!

>>....regards,
>>...
>Arindam
>

Incidentally do they pay you for preaching Bahai faith?
From: x92nath@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: <None>
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:42:35 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University










           
          
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
Subject: Re: For Arindam Ghosh, a request
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:56:09 GMT
X-Posted-From: comstore.uark.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <l8m1h6INN16f@phad.hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu  
(Samit Banerjee) writes:
> In article <1992Aug13.225326.21945@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU  
writes:
> 
> To Arindam Ghosh this is a request,
> please take your postings to alt.religion for as a forum that is the  
best,
> Even though certain people you choose to rival,
> in posting to this net utter driviel,
> so far in my discretion I have chosen to desist,
> although the urge to flame you I can no longer resist.
> 
> Apart from religion, no other interests you seem to hold,
> frankly I couldnt care less about your Bahai fold.
> Makes me wonder what your advisor has to say,
> About work not being done as you sit at your terminal all day,
> thriving on inane discussions and a meaningless fray.
> 
> Consider this a request made in all humility and not a bad rap,
> though I am tired of follow ups to your postings by assorted riff raff,
> However if you intend to make it to my kill file,
> Let me know and I can add you on before you can say smile.
> 
> Samit
> 

I entirely support Samit's point of view. 

Arindam, there are lots of other things in the world. Please don't waste  
your time on one and only one topic. You have contributed in the  
conversion of SCI into a religious channel and as a result one sees  
postings like ' Hinduism and me', 'Why Sati' and all other stupid topics.

-- Arindam, go out and enjoy your life. 
-- Bye.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Death of a Poet
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:20:02 GMT

>  What was Ghulaam Yaseen ? A secular Muslim who did not know his real
>vocation? A good man with a Muslim name who could be used by dedicated
>social reformers or by the Indian state to establish bridges between
>faiths ? A crypto-Hindu killed by the Hindus by mistake ? Or a true
>Muslim who could express his religious sensitivities through other people's
>faiths ? Or an Indian whose assassination has simultaneously impoverished
>Hinduism, Islam and Indianness ?
>
>*****************
>
>Readers comments are welcome.  A friend of mine who read the item wrote:
>
> Vishwanatha Satyanarayana belongs to the school of 'Everything by West and
> Muslims is evil'. So an endorsement by him is really something.
> .....
> I am from Telangana and I know what it is to be treated as a culturally
> inferior person. Today I can speak both Telangana and Coastal dialect
> effortlessly but the path of getting there has not been painless.
>*****************
>arun gupta
>ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu
>*****************
A person who just missed hearing about the Bahai faith )-: )-:.
Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ta-vg11@muddnext6.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:43:44 GMT

In article <l8j7hjINN6uo@skat.usc.edu> sramacha@skat.usc.edu (Sudarshan  
Ramachandran) writes:
> 
> "I hate Tamils. I *really* *HATE* Tamils"
> 
> 
> This string is present in the sub-conscious memory locations of most  
non-Tamilians
> I've known. Civility prevents these people from expressing the above  
feeling
> overtly, but the point is that this feeling _is_ there. Tamils, aka  
"Madrasis"
> are, IMHO, the most hated sect/group/community in India. 
> [PERSECUTION MANIA DELETED]
> > 
> Sudarshan.
> 
> 
DEAR Sudarshan,
I was given to understand a lot of similar feelings on part of a Bengali  
friend of mine recently. Also this sort of feeling is I think prevalent in  
people of many other states in India. So I think its not something just in  
Tamils but is something more widespread.
Also ShivSena as far as I know was to drive out the Bhaiyas (UPites )
who control all the milk and vegetable market of Bombay.
Vikas
From: krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian doctors and the GOP
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:02:37 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments


>> Now why do you suppose Indians in the medical profession contribute
>> heavily to the Republican party?

>> 	a) Could it be that they just like the Bush-QuayleE ticket?
>>	b) They like Bush because he single-handedly brought down
>>	   the Communist East Bloc and reunited E-W Germany;
>>	c) Because under Bush's able leadership as the commander-
>>	   in-chief, the U.S. led Western allies liberated Quwait
>>	   (Kuwait) and brought Saddam down to his knees;
>>	d) Bush's refusal to involve American "boys" in establishing
>>	   stability in the former Yugoslav republic - "...we don't
>>	   want American soldiers dying trying to fight with a dis-
>>	   organized militia..."  (Editor's note:  There is nothing
>>	   of value there to liberate such as oil, precious metals,
>>	   etc.);
>>	e) They believe in the GOP platform (family values, anti-
>>	   abortion, the New World Order-Safer Gentler World, small
>>	   government,etc.);
>>	f) Bush's new secret economic recovery plan (!?) with Jim
>>	   Baker at the helm!
>>	g) Bush's favorable position on reducing income and capital-
>>	   gains taxes for the wealthy Americans.


The main reason could be Bush's stand on health care. George Bush has opposed 
nationalised health care saying that "it will be as efficient as the House
 post office and will have the passion of KGB".  

Clinton supports national health care.
People argue  that if Clinton is elected, his policy will reduce the cost of 
health care.  Many doctors fear that they will be NOT able to make as much
money as they do now.  A lot of Indian doctors I know oppose national health
care policy.  They think they will not be able to make 250 - 500 K / year
that they make now.

I personaly want Clinton to be elected just for his health care policy.


Krishnan