HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: Problems compiling df and system utils under gcc 2.1
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:14:15 GMT

dam1@ra.msstate.edu (Daniel A. Martin) writes:
: I got a few errors while compiling df as well as chsh and mkswap from the
: system-0.95a.tar.Z file...BTW shouldn't df be in this file too?
: 
: df compiled ok before I installed gcc 2.1 so SUPER_MAGIC was probably
: defined in one of the old include files...what is it supposed to be?
: 
: gcc -O3 df.c -o df
: df.c: In function `do_df':
: df.c:92: `SUPER_MAGIC' undeclared (first use this function)
: df.c:92: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
: df.c:92: for each function it appears in.)

A lot of the file-system code is changing because of VFS.  For the time
being, you need to #inlcude <linux/minix_fs.h> and use MINIX_SUPER_MAGIC.

: gcc -O3 chsh.c -o chsh
: chsh.c: In function `main':
: chsh.c:120: `LOCK_FILE' undeclared (first use this function)
: chsh.c:120: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
: chsh.c:120: for each function it appears in.)

LOCK_FILE should be PASSWD_LOCK.  There is also a bug in chsh/passwd.
Chsh/passwd makes it's changes in /etc/passwd~, then copies the changes
back to /etc/passwd.  If the new version is shorter than the old version,
garbage is left at the end.  The fix is to truncate /etc/passwd after
writing it.  Unfortunately, we don't have an ftruncate syscall yet.

: I have a link in /usr/include to /usr/src/linux/include/linux to deal
: with most of the programs that need kernel header files...I included
: kernel.h (from 0.95c+) since it was so short...will someone better
: versed in C than me tell me what's wrong...
: 
: gcc -O3 mkswap.c -o mkswap
: In file included from /usr/include/linux/mm.h:7, from mkswap.c:26:
: /usr/include/linux/kernel.h:11: parse error before `('

The kernel headers and GCC 2.1 headers don't mix very well yet.  Hopefully
Linus and H.J. can straighten this out (soon, please!).  Until then, you
can compile mkswap by NOT #inluding <linux/mm.h> and simply #defining 
PAGE_SIZE as 4096.

David
-- 
David Engel                        Optical Data Systems, Inc.
david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
From: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: LINUX INSTALLATION PROBLEMS
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:00:01 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Sorry, forgot to mention :

25 Mhz 386DX, 2MBs, AMI BIOS, DR-DOS 6.

Drive 0 was formatted using DR-DOS 5 fdisk.
Drive 1 using DR-DOS 6 fdisk.

Any help, advice would be greatly appreciated.  Even a pointer
to a section in the installation notes that I may have missed
would be welcome.  Just initialise it first (-:

Scott.
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: mstype!mdf (Matthew Francey)
Subject: FS questions
Reply-To: mstype!mdf (Matthew Francey)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:48:52 GMT

well, i've read the FAQ sheet and i am unimpressed. :-)

or more precisely, i am showing remarkable restraint and calm in the
light of the information on this FAQ list.  i will refrain from rapid,
perhaps unthinking, decisions.  i will not drool *too* much.  wild,
incoherent singing in the middle of the night will be kept to an absolute
minimum.

hence, like any potential guinea pi..., err, customer, i have some
more questions before i sign my life away to LINUX:

1) is there a driver for my beautiful Adaptec 1542B card?  how difficult
   is it to make such a thing on a single diskette only system (which is
   what i would be left with)?  trivial 30 minute operation, or success
   would be only marginal after 4 months of 24hr non-stop hacking sessions?

2) is the file system size *really* limited to 64 megabytes?  this is a
   really serious flaw if true for (a) simple aesthetic reasons and (b)
   practical reasons for those with large disks ...  and if true, can this
   be easily fixed?  i have absolutely no care in the world about
   compatibility with MINIX file systems, or any other for that matter.
   i just want peak, or close to peak, fs performance.

otherwise, LINUX is looking like what i an looking for.  i have had it with
COHERENT and its 64+64 business and disgusting disk performance...

but its still a toss up between 386 BSD or LINUX.  but i haven't found out
anything about the BSD other than the fact it exists, is free, and a friend
tells me it panics alot...
-- 
Matthew Francey                   "You might not count in the new world order."
...!utzoo!sq!mstype!mdf                       -- Generation X (slightly edited)
From: GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (thomas dunbar)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Digests
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:07:01 GMT
Reply-To: GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Organization: The Internet

why do most items in the Linux Digests appear twice?
From: yates@eggo.csee.usf.edu (Jeffery Alan Yates)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Getting all of Linux
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:58:08 GMT
Reply-To: yates@eggo.csee.usf.edu (Jeffery Alan Yates)
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

OK, lets say I've got some of Linux 0.12 and like what I see.  Now that
the current version has moved forward so far, and so many things have
been ported, I'd like to jump in with both feet.  I ftp huge quantities
of stuff from tsx-11, and have them all in a directory structure on the
Unix systems here at school.  I set-up a minimal Linux system on my PC
at home, and want to get everything else over, sometime in my lifespan. 
I've got a SPARCstation IPC at school, with a 1.44MB floppy, and my PC
with Linux has a 1.44MB floppy.  Is there a good/easy way to backup the
file structure from the SPARC (it does mtools and dd, but trying to do
this file by file would not be fun) to floppy, then restore it all to my
PC.  The things I have for 0.12 I did with mtools/rawrite or dd.  I've
only got a 1200baud modem, so downloading is definitely out of the
question.

Also...I'm hooked on windows! Any news as to how the X11 port is going?

As always, any help is appreciated.

Jeff yates@eggo.csee.usf.edu
------------------------------------
If it moves, kill it...
If its dead, eat it...
If it tastes good, kill another one.
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Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
From: drew@romeo.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: got root95c+, now need device driver for lp0...
Keywords: lp, lpd, lpr, lp0
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:31:08 GMT

In article <5301@pdxgate.UUCP> moyerg@jove.cs.pdx.edu (gary a moyer) writes:
>Well, I got the .95c+ release of the boot image (kudos to those
>responsible).  When I boot I get an 'lp0 recognized'.  Anyhow,
>I still have _no_ device driver for the printer at lp0.  Is this

Yes, you have a device driver for line printer devices.  You
just don't have a "special file" that lets programs outside of 
the kernel see it...

>a question of which root image I'm using (am using .95 root image)?
>If not, can the driver be created using mknode and if so could someone
>please post the necessary info to do this?
>

Line printer devices are character devices, major number 6.  

Do a   

mknod /dev/lp0 6 0
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: more on uudecode problems....
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:13:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr12.021351.4532
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet

Hi , I figured that with the >9600 problems, that might be it, so I
tried it all at 2400 baud, and same problem. :(

I am anxious to get the bootimage-0.95c+ so I can finally use my printer.
I just bought a new ribbon for that very purpose. :)

I am going to try it using xmodem download from attmail.com and see what
happens.

Also, does anyone know what it takes to get a company connected to the
Internet?  If it makes a difference, there is a NASA base 2 miles from
the company I work for, and they have Internet access (domain addresses of
machine.wff.nasa.gov)  Occasionally, a friend of mine on the base will
let me ftp files, but he is on vacation for 2 weeks.  :(

anyway, thanks for any and all help!
===========================================================================
| Jim Gifford   | jgifford@attmail.com          | "You wanna run WHAT OS?,|
| Service Mgr.  | ..!uunet!attmail.com!jgifford | on THAT hardware[xt]?,  |
| InterCom, Inc.| ^^should work, could someone  | Give it up man!"        |
| Wattsville, VA| please test it for me?        | ^what I said when I was |
| (804)824-6212 | #include <stddisc.h>          | asked if it could run   |
| (804)824-0500 |v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v| UNIX.  :)               |
===========================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: omur@panasonic.com (MEI in Osaka)
Subject: How to extend file names beyond 14 characters ?
Organization: TAD/West, Panasonic Technologies, Inc. Palo Alto, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:32:59 GMT


Hi everybody:
I am really happy to have installed Linux0.95c+, and finally
using the power of my pc (versions before 0.95a did not like
my computer very much).

I would like to recompile the kernel to handle more respectable
file name sizes (like 30 characters). I noticed that there is
a parameter in "limits.h" stg like POSIX_FILExxx (I forgot the
actual name) defined to a value of 14. Doing the obvious of setting 
the value to a larger value, and remaking the kernel did not 
solve my problem.

As I am fairly new with Linux, I do not know the details of the kernel.
I would appreciate it if someone could explain the right steps in
increasing the file name size beyond 14 chars. BTW, would "ls" etc.
be able to handle file names beyond 14 chars as it is, or would
they also need to be compiled.

Thanks very much.

Omur...
omur@ped.mei.co.jp
Xref: sparky alt.os.linux:2395 comp.os.linux:306
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Problems with serial port drivers??
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:43:00 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

Has anyone seen any problems with the serial port drivers under
linux?  I'm running 0.95a and am having a hard time making uucp fly
at 9600 baud and above, either straight through or with a modem.
This same machine and comm board runs XENIX HDB UUCP flawlessly,
and there have not been any reported complaints about taylor-uucp
dropping packets, etc.

This might not show up under light loads -- just under a heavy
load, like uucp at 19200.
-- 
Ed Carp  N7EKG/6	erc@khijol.UUCP		erc@apple.com
			Cupertino, CA		408/252-5947

-- Absolutely unabashed Gates McFadden groupie! --
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Binaries considered harmful
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:19:57 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Apr7.124221.16198@news.Hawaii.Edu> lee@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Greg Lee) writes:
>
>Sounds good to me.  But there has never been source code available for any
>of the versions of gcc, so far as I know, nor diffs against the fsf distribution.

Guilty as charged: I made a small gcc.cdiff available for the original
gcc-1.40 release, but I don't think I made it "public" - I just probably
mailed it to some interested parties. 

Btw, that cdiff wasn't big, and I think it was the biggest one to date:
the original gcc-1.40 for linux contained code to fix the broken
-msoft-float (mostly thanks to Bruce Evans), as well as my small hack to
use the 386 string instructions (2.x does it, but 1.40 didn't).  The
newer versions of gcc for linux are probably almost exactly the fsf
distribution: the problems have mostly been the libraries. 

>I have never found source code for update.

This one is mine as well: it's about 10 lines of code, but I never made
that one public either.  That too has been sent out (or rather:
recreated on the fly) to interested parties.  If anybody is interested,
update.c looks something like this:

#include <unistd.h>
#include <signal.h>

void alrm_fn(int sig)
{
	sync();
	signal(SIGALRM,alrm_fn);
	alarm(30);
}

main()
{
	alrm_fn(SIGARLM);
	while (1)
		pause();
}

I won't guarantee that one compiles: I just wrote it in, but it will
give you an idea of the thing. 

>The source code I have for fsck doesn't come close to compiling with
>the current linux include files.

My dog ate it...  Well, close: I had (really!) a new version of fsck.c
that had some minor fixes, as well as compiling with the new
include-files, but I hadn't released it yet - I was still working on the
VFS code.  Then I made a minor mistake in my kernel code, and oops.. 
linux started eating up my filesystem.  I didn't loose anything vital
/except/ the new fsck.c.  The binary was intact, but the sources
weren't.  So the answer is that there simply /isn't/ any fsck code
available which compiles with the new header files unless somebody else
has written one.. 

>				  I'm going to work on fsck.c (I
>question whether fsck -m works properly now), but since I don't
>understand the filesystem, my prospects aren't very good. 

I know the filesystem (boy do I know it!), and I've intended to recreate
my sources for a long time, but something has always come up.  I won't
promise I'll do it anytime soon, so if anybody else feels like doing it
(starting from the old sources), it would be nice.. 

		Linus
From: csn0314@ux.acs.umn.edu (tim)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: kermit5A.tar.Z ; shared libs
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:37:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.1992Apr11.183735.2681
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr11.023203.2096@athena.mit.edu> johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) writes:
>kermit5A.tar.Z at tsx-11.mit.edu was accidentally compiled using
>shared libs, which has caused some trouble for some people :-)

i inadvertantly  compiled  mount using shared libs. /usr is a mounted
partition on my machine, so i couldn't mount anything or run any
program using shared libs. is there any reason why i can't copy the
ilbs in /lib instead of using links?

		tim
From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem with tar (?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:20:26 GMT
Followup-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester


In article <73106@netnews.upenn.edu> smithje@pobox.upenn.edu (Joe Smith) writes:
(speaking about tar)
>It also refuses to
>create multi-volume compressed archives (although it will do
>non-compressed ones).

I believe this is by design.  Tar with z simply pipes its output
through compress, and compress doesn't support multi-volume output.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Subject: addendum: "GCC2.1.......again"
Reply-To: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:02:59 GMT


In case it's significant to my GCC2.1 malaise....

	When I installed, on a newly reformatted drive, 0.95c+ a file called
.badblocks appeared in my root dir. mkfs -c complained about this during
installation. Are these areas available to mess up anything written to them
or does mkfs lock them out?

	I am using a seperate st251-1 MFM drive 7/8 full and bootlace. I 
have 8 megs memory and 4 megs swapfile.

Thanking in advance for any replies.............
Denise Tree (still obsessing over gcc2.1)
Towson State Univ.
Xref: sparky alt.os.linux:2448 comp.os.linux:365
From: whitney2@husc10.harvard.edu (Wayne Whitney)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: gcc 2.1 problem: parse error before '('
Keywords: gcc 2.1 problem parse error
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:27:34 GMT

Hello Linux users,

	As this is my first post to the .os.linux group(s), I just
want to thank Linus and everybody else whose been working on this
project for a great job and all the time and effort you've put into
it.  Anyway, what brings me to post is a problem I've had trying to
get gcc 2.1 to work.  Basically, whenever I try to compile something,
the compiler dies on the first line with a '(', saying: parse error
before '('.  I remember there was an earlier post about this problem,
but a solution was never posted.  So I was hoping that someone could
tell me how to fix it, as I don't really know where to begin.  I'm
sure the archives that I've gotten weren't corrupted, and I've checked
twice to be sure that all of gcc 1.4 was gone; I followed the
instructions in the FAQ on gcc2.1 for installing it.
	Thanks.

Wayne Whitney
whitney2@husc.harvard.edu
From: hscohen@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Harvey S. Cohen)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: MPC Games Speed
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:09:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ

In article <1992Apr5.081547.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>Anyone have any MPC games (IE:Games that run cd-rom in windows)?
>  I've seen Kings Quest 5 advertised and was wondering if it's better
>than the dos version (I'd figure it'd be a hell of a lot slower for
>starters!)  It's good to see stuff coming out as MPC for windows but
>I wish the speed was there.
My son has KQ5 on CDROM, running on a 33 MHz 80486 system with a "fast"
NEC 83M CD drive and the 640x480 256 color video driver. If the speed
and detail controls are both set to max, it is too fast to play.
Your mileage may vary...
-- 
	Harvey S. Cohen / att!honet6!hsc || hsc@honet6.ATT.COM
	AT&T Bell Labs / HO 3B532 / 908 949 0173
	Crawfords Corner Rd. / Holmdel, NJ  07733 / U.S.A.
From: 75300.1324@COMPUSERVE.COM (Nick Arnett)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Apple & Photo CD
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:58:36 GMT
Reply-To: Nick Arnett <75300.1324@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Distribution: alt
Organization: FUNET-NGW

Attn: CDROM-L
                       Subject:
Time:3:34 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Apple & Photo CD
Date:4/6/92
I found the answer to my own question...  Kodak's press release on
Photo CD and QuickTime says that the current AppleCD SC Plus can read
single-session Photo CD discs.  "Apple will also be enhancing its
CD-ROM drive to better support Photo CD technology in the future.
Apple has plans to introduce a fully compatible multisession Photo CD
drive later this year."

Nick Arnett
Multimedia Computing Corp.
Chief Sysop, Multimedia Forums on CompuServe
From: MTE@CU.NIH.GOV
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: (none)
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:30:06 GMT
Reply-To: MTE@CU.NIH.GOV
Distribution: alt
Organization: FUNET-NGW

In the last couple of weeks there has been considerable bulletin
board comment about the longevity of CD-ROM.  Several references
have been made about the National Archives and Records
Administration assessment of the longevity of CD-ROM.

Contrary to published reports (New Tech News, June 10, 1991), the
National Archives does not have a position regarding the longevity
of CD-ROM.  Ken Thibodeau of the National Archives, who was cited
as the source for this assessment, was offering his own personal
opinion.  Tom Zillner, editor of New Tech News, has offered to
print a clarification.

The National Archives is very interested in the longevity of all
electronic media, particularly those involving optical technology.
Recently, the National Institute of Standards and Technology
completed a report on a project to develop a standard test
methodology for evaluating the longevity of 12 inch WORM media.  At
this point, a similar study of CD-ROM is not planned.   However,
the National Archives is co-sponsoring with Jerry McFall of the US
Geological Survey a working group reviewing critical issues of CD-
ROM longevity.  The Archival Research and Evaluation Staff at the
National Archives is tracking developments in this arena.  I expect
to present some of our findings in a paper I will present at the
SIGCAT meeting on April 29.

I welcome any comments or suggestions from anyone with an interest
in this specific topic.  My voice number is (202) 501 5532.  My FAX
number is (202) 501 5533.
From: ywlee@sunc6.cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee)
Subject: Sun Moon Star
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:23:07 GMT


Do any of you know a company named "Sun Moon Star"?
My friend wants to know their address/phone number.
He believes it is a CD-ROM drive manufacturing company.


youngwhan.

-- 
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1408 W. University Ave., Urbana, IL. 61801  | Computer Science 
(217) 244-7551   			    |
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jwidner@onetouch.COM (Jim Widner)
Subject: Re: CDROM and DOS 5
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 23:38:24 GMT

system@micromed.net.netcom.com (Duane Davis) writes:

>lando@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Zvi Lando) writes:
>> Can anyone tell me with what driver/program I can run my CDROM under DOS 5?
>> My MSCDEX (ver 1.01) doesn't seem to work...

>It works as long as you tell it it's running under an older version of DOS.

>Here's what you do...

>   1. Make sure that the following line exists in your config.sys file

>                 DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE

>   2. At the DOS prompt type the following

>                 SETVER MSCDEX.EXE 4.0

>This tells DOS to fool MSCDEX into thinking it's running under DOS 4.0.
>There is a newer version of MSCDEX that takes care of the problem but
>this works just as well.

Are you sure this will work for that version of MSCDEX, Duane?  We use
CDROM in our business and part of my job is to support it.  I tried that
version and found I had to upgrade to a higher version - can't remember
what it is right now, believe it is 2.01 or some such.  I tried 
repeatedly to get it to work using the very same method you mention, 
but failed.  I am almost certain that it won't work.

-- 
_______________________________Jim Widner_________________________________

Columbus, Ohio                             jwidner@onetouch.COM
CIS: 74566,3041         		...!uunet!onetouch!jwidner
From: slr2l@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: CD-ROM Service Needed
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:34:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr11.063447.54387
Organization: Utah State University

I'm look for a CD-ROM service that will copy my entire Hard Disk to a CD.
Any ideas???

  SLR2L@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: michaela@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Michael Albo)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: CD-ROM & SoftAT
Keywords: cdrom, mscdex, softat
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:04:14 GMT
Organization: ISC - Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA

Has anyone had any luck installing and using a CD-ROM player under
SoftAT on the Mac. I've installed MSCDEX and other things to make it
work and I always get the same response back; " Cannot find a SCSI device"
or something to that effect. I am using SOFTAT 2.5 not universal SoftPC.
Anyone have any suggestions. I'm lost.

Thanks

Michael Albo



-- 

Michael Albo            | michaela@isc-br.ISC-BR.COM
ISC-Bunker Ramo         | uunet!isc-br!michaela
An Olivetti Company     |
From: sgolby@nepean.uws.edu.au (Scott Golby)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Multi-CD CD-ROMs ?  Options/Opinions Wanted!
Summary: What are my options in Multi-CD Players?
Keywords: CD-ROM
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:22:07 GMT
Organization: University of Western Sydney


    Hi Everyone,  I was looking to add a CD-ROM player to my BBS and 
to add a bit of flexability I would like to add a Multi Disk capable
CD ROM (if at all possible!)   So what are my options?  Do I have 
any at this stage?  (As I have only seen 1 Multi CD-ROM about the
place)    Any thought, experiences or opinions most welcome.
    Thanks,                                      Scott Golby.