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From: hoehle@lindau.inf-wiss.ivp.uni-konstanz.de (Joerg-Cyril Hoehle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Problems with shelltool on remote display
Keywords: sun, shell/cmdtool, x
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:11:32 GMT
Organization: Information Science, Univ. of Konstanz
              D-W-7750 Konstanz, Germany

pava@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Robert S. Unoki) wrote:

>I am having problems when attempting to run a shelltool via rsh on a
>remote machine.  The shelltool window appears correctly, but no
>prompt is presented.  The following error is returned to the shell that
>invoked the rsh command:
>
>ttysw-TIOCSPGRP: Interrupted system call


I wrote:
>I sometimes get exactly the same behaviour simply by asking for a
>commandtool from the OW3 menu.


blymn@awadi.com.AU (Brett Lymn) replies:

Try putting the command setsid before the cmdtool in your menu file,
have a look at the setsid man page for an example of what to do.

BTW Can you please post the answer to the sun-admin newgroup for me, I
can read news but not post :-(

--
Brett Lymn
Computer Systems Administrator
AWA Defence Industries


-- 
 	Joerg.
hoehle@inf-wiss.ivp.uni-konstanz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ccarpent@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Craig Carpenter)
Subject: auto set display variable on X terms
Reply-To: ccarpent@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Craig Carpenter)
Organization: Harris GISD
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:40:01 GMT

--
I am looking for the easy way to set the DISPLAY variable when a user
signs in. We have some
X terminals and they login to the Sparc and have to set the display
variable themselves, 
what is the easy way to find out from the login process what terminal
they are signing in from.

Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Mail formatting for < 75 columns wide (help on fmt_mail)
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:43:10 GMT

Well, yes and no to the fmt_mail and uuencode problem.  The REAL problem is
that the uuencode that Sun ships still uses blanks as valid characters.
Upgrade to a newer uuencode - say one from the past 5 yrs or so - and
that problem, as well as any potential problem with other special
characters, should be fixed.

There IS a problem though with fmt_mail wrapping things like included text
or source file attachments .  I am going to end up breaking down and doing
something about this some day, when I figure out how to identify what text
the user wants wrapped and what text s/he does not want wrapped.

Many folks who use mailtool prefer to highlight the text to format and then
use the textedit menu to do the formatting.  My problem with that is the
same with using that menu to add the .signature.  It requires me to take
extra steps with every email - and i have a lot of email to process.

-- 
Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
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From: ajt@swan.doc.ic.ac.uk (Tony Travis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: AppleShare on the Sun Recommendations
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:57:32 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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John DeRosa (derosa@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
: I want to allow the Macintosh users around 
: my office to mount Sun file systems.  I know
: that it can be done with PacerShare and 
: CAP (I think).
: 
: Does anyone have an opinion on which is 
: better?  Are there others?

Yes, netatalk - it's free, and it's good!

	Tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sgi
From: fouts@exacto.dallas.sgi.com (Christopher Fouts)
Subject: Re: IRIX4.0.5 appears (!) to cause Sun Xview applications to not work
Organization: Silicon Graphics (Dallas, TX)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:46:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.043416.18952@spatial.com>, alek@spatial.com (Alek O. Komarnitsky) writes:
|> We recently upgraded one of our Indigo's to 4.0.5 from 4.0.1. Now, when the
|> user runs xview applications (such as mailtool, cmdtool, etc.) they come
|> up on the Indigo, but when one does a mouse click inside this application,
|> the entire X-server appears to hang for subsequent mouse events.
|> Killing the client program "frees" the Server, and the mouse events
|> are then accepted. 
|> 
|> These applications were done routinely with IRIX4.0.1. 
|> "Pure" X based applications (such as xterm and xsol) work OK, but
|> xview applications as mentioned above cause this problem.
|> Same behavior from both OpenWindows 2 & 3. 
|> 
|> You can duplicate this problem in <30 seconds. On a "vanilla" 4.0.5
|> machine, do the xhost/DISPLAY stuff, and then fire up an xterm from
|> the Sun to make sure you did everything right. After confirming that,
|> fire up a cmdtool/mailtool/whatever and click inside the application.
|> Click on a few other windows (nothing happens), then kill the client.
|> 
|> I've taken a look at TFM, and would sure like to know a workaround for this.
|> Thanx in advance - I'll summarize if enough interest and/or eat humble pie
|> if I've missed something obvious!  ;-)

I've seen it, too, at a customer site and filed a bug on it.  The workaround
is to use the "-fullscreendebug" option when running your Xview application.
The report I've gotten is that this is fixed in the next "major" release which
runs X11R5.  I do not know if there will be another release before then that
fixes this problem in our X11R4 server.

|> Alek Komarnitsky                                      303-449-0649
|> Software Tools Manager, Spatial Technology, Inc.      2425 55th Street, Bldg A
|> alek@spatial.com                                      Boulder, CO 80301-5704

-- 

Chris Fouts				Email:  fouts@dallas.sgi.com
Systems Engineer			Phone:  (214)-788-4122
Silicon Graphics Computer Systems	Vmail:	8714
Dallas, TX

        "I'm as much of a non-conformist as everybody else."
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SUN cd support- ISO 9660
Date: 20 Aug 1992 16:16:34 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <l95oblINNqgp@phad.hsc.usc.edu> rpinder@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Rich Pinder) writes:
>Our new SUN 650MP has the capability of mounting the cdrom to understand
>hsfs (High Sierra format) cd's.  US census data is coming available on ISO
>9660 standard.  Is there an additional patch to the driver to allow the SUN
>to handle them?

You don't need a patch.  ISO 9660 is based on High Sierra, and just about
everyone (including Sun) supports both.  For most purposes, you can
probably consider them equivalent.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: need a format.dat entry for Seagate ST42400N
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:21:56 GMT

In article <9804@oak.cam.nist.gov> straw@cam.nist.gov (Mike_Strawbridge_x3852) writes:
"Does anyone have a format.dat entry for a Seagate Elite ST42400N 2.5 Gbyte
"SCSI-2 drive?

meee tooo!

aTdHvAaNnKcSe

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a_d_hay@att.com	|              Drinking fresh mango juice...		       |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aburt@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Andrew Burt)
Subject: Re: Amd is not perfect
Keywords: nfsd automount amd D
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:38:58 GMT

In <1992Aug9.184414.4765@newshost.lanl.gov> dlc@c3serve.c3.lanl.gov (Dale Carstensen) writes:
>I think most of the responses to the original posting in this thread
>have been about 2 separate problems:

> 1. nfsd's go into D status (a server-end problem)

> 2. automount (or possibly amd, and amd probably has a different
>    problem than automount since amd forks child processes to
>    handle new mounts) blocks, so any process requiring a new mount
>    will go into D status waiting for automount (a client-end
>    problem)

>...one thing I haven't seen a load factor go beyond maybe 6 or 8 due to
>these 2 problems, and other messages have mentioned 400+.  But maybe
>problem 2 could generate quite a lot of load -- my discussion below
>involves a rather quiet Saturday morning as the peak load.

I've seen this (often) in our config:

	Pyramid 90x with OSx4.0 (aka "ancient") acting as disk server to
	Sparcserver 2 with 4.1.2

The Pyramid will reboot (for other unrelated causes) and the
the Sparc's nfsd will never see it come back up(?) -- instead, they
get stuck in "D" and the load shoots waaaaay up (I've seen a load of >300
if the Pyramid re-crashes or stays down; eventually the sparc dies too).

We don't run any automounter.  Granted the Pyramid's NFS is old, but
the SunOS is new.

Note, that if the Pyramid reboots, sometimes the sparc STILL doesn't
notice that it's up, BUT rebooting the P. wakes it right up.

>...  There also was a bug in 4.1 that would cause all
>nfsd processes to go into D status when an exported filesystem
>filled up, which was fixed by the NFS jumbo patch for 4.1, I think.
 ^^^^^^^^^

Which is frequent at this site -- but note the sparc runs 4.1.2.

>Problem 2 I've had daily for 2 days, and now that I understand it,
>here's what is was for me this time.  My NIS master server has been
>hanging processes in D status, especially rlogin daemons.

Same here re rlogin's -- to the point that all ptys get used up
until the NFS problem is resolved.

My solution is to modify the login procedure so it checks to see if the
home-dir server is up via ping.  (Easy since users log into a shell script.)

However, the real problem remains unsolved -- fixes still appreciated...
-- 

Andrew Burt 		   					  aburt@du.edu

      "And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped"
From: zahabi@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: help on using Sun Accounting.
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:11:31 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

Hi everybody,

I have a Sun Sparc2 4.1.1 machine, and I am trying to set up the system
accounting to track how much users use cpu time and connect time. 
I did the neccessary things to start up the accounting and I got the 
final accounting file that gets generated automatically at the end of each 
month.

Brousing through the monthly accounting file, I found out that the CPU and 
CONNECT times were shown in minutes and not in seconds, meaning that if a user
uses 30 seconds of cpu time, his cpu time in the monthly accounting file will
be shown as 0 and not 0.30; therefore, 30 seconds are unaccounted for. 

Since we are in an educational environment, we use the accounting system to 
charge other departments that use our systems, thus, having CPU and CONNECT
time in seconds is very important.

I tried to use "sa -m", then I was hit by another surprise. 'sa -m' only lists
information about active users (users who are currently logged on) and not
keeping track and listing information based on the life of wtmp file.
 
If any of you have any idea how to work around this problem please send an
email to:

zahabi@discover.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Subject: Re: NIS and DNS. Any problem to expect?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:49:57 GMT

ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:

>We got all sorts of conflicting advice, including replacing libc with a libc
>relinked with all of the latest resolver routines from bind.  There have
>been posts about the proper way to include resolver routines while relinking.

If you run NIS, (with -b) the Sun will first look in NIS for the host,
if it does not find it , it then automatically goes to DNS . If you do
not use NIS, the Sun goesONLY to /etc/hosts. If it's not there, tough.
resolv+ is a package rewrite of the BSD Bind routins which will go to
/etc/hosts and/or DNS in whichever order you want. It involves redoing
your libc.so library.
resolv+ was written by Bill Wisner and is in hayes.ims.alaska.edu in
/networking

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: straw@cam.nist.gov (Mike_Strawbridge_x3852)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: need a format.dat entry for Seagate ST42400N
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:47:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology, Gaithersburg, MD

Does anyone have a format.dat entry for a Seagate Elite ST42400N 2.5 Gbyte
SCSI-2 drive?

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: roihar@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: rlogin as root works but can't access imported filesystem as root
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:19:40 GMT

I've got a problem. Our external disk on our server is exported
over our three SPARCstation II network and it's filesystem is
available to me as root if I rlogin as root from one of the
other two SPARCstation II's. However, if I merely access the
filesystem and attempt to descend into root access only directories
I get a privelege violation error even though I'm accessing the
filesystem that was exported to this workstation from the server
and I'm root on both with the same password on both???
Can somebody point me in the right direction?? I feel like I've
become the guest of honour at a Mexican birthday party!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jayb@gauss.Stanford.EDU (Jay Bourland (382N) 3-2081)
Subject: Disk going??
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:22:53 GMT

One of my disks has started producing a large (about 2 per hour)
number of (header not found) errors on reads and writes. Does this
mean that the disk is about to die a gruesome death? It seems to be
able to recover from most of the errors, but the large number of
errors is beginning to worry me. Is there anything I can do to avoid
the impending crash, such as reformatting the disk? By the way the
disk is controlled by a Xylogics 7053 (xd) controller. Any info would
be very appreciated.

--
Jay Bourland
jayb@math.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: coil@quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu (Stacy D. Coil)
Subject: Help: Top won't work with SunOS 4.1.2
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:08:47 GMT

Has anyone had trouble getting top version 3.0 to run on a Sun4c running
SunOS 4.1.2?

I down loaded the the package from export.lcs.mit.edu and compiled it
on a sun4c running 4.1.2.

I set the executables uid to root and gid to kmem.  Then I set the
set group on execution bit.

	-rwxr-sr-x  1 root        73728 Aug 12 11:34 top

When I run top from a client that is running 4.1.2, I get the following:

	[106] ./top
	top: cannot open /dev/kmem: Permission denied
	kvm_open: Permission denied

When I do a ls -lg on /dev/kmem of the client, I get 

	crw-r-----  1 root     kmem       3,   1 Oct 31  1991 /dev/kmem


However, top does run on the server.  The long listing of /dev/kmem is

	crw-r-----  1 root     kmem       3,   1 Feb 11  1992 /dev/kmem

I thought that all that one has to do to allow a program to read
/dev/kmem is to set the group of the program to kmem, then set the
'set gid bit on execution'.  Is there something with SunOS that I must
say that this program is worthy of reading kmem?

Also, if I try running top (compiled on a machine running SunOS 4.1.2)
from a server running SunOS 4.1.1, I get the following:

	[103] top 
	ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libc.so.1.6 has older revision than expected 7
	Segmentation fault

And if I try to run top (compiled on a machine running SunOS 4.1.1)
from a server running SunOS 4.1.2, I  get 

	[107] top
	Segmentation fault

I take it that some of the typedefs in kvm.h has been changed.  

If anyone has any knowledge of this please enlighten me.


--	Stacy

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System Programmer		Electrical Engineering Computer Facilities
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From: jpd@discovery.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: BudTool
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:49:53 GMT
Reply-To: jpd@discovery.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University

It's one of many good one's.  We chose it here becouse it best
fit our needs.  My only complaint is the the secure retrivial is
GUI only.  This means my PC user's must use a sun to get back a
lost file.  Rumor has it that it's in the works.... But, phone/tech
support is excellent.
---
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Joseph P. DeCello III                      e-mail:  jpd@cad.msu.edu
Michigan State University                      ph:  (517) 353-3027 
Specialized Computing Support Services              10am - 5pm EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: lbr@clear.com (Lon Ricker)
Subject: SP/C - silo overflow
Organization: Clear Communications, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:38:02 GMT

The following messages are appearing in /var/adm/messages on
one (two?) of our customer's machines.

From the time stamps, it appears as though software controlling
these ports may be seeing what it thinks is a "Ring Indication"
(DCD going high) at the same time this occurs.

The messages are:


Aug 18 07:14:52 iscclr vmunix: PUTSILO: unit 0 line 1 soft silo overflow
Aug 18 09:02:53 iscclr vmunix: PUTSILO: unit 0 line 6 soft silo overflow
Aug 18 09:33:19 iscclr vmunix: stc_drainsilo: unit 0 line 6 punting after 10 put retries
Aug 18 11:18:22 iscclr vmunix: stc_drainsilo: unit 0 line 4 punting after 10 put retries
Aug 18 11:53:37 iscclr vmunix: stc_drainsilo: unit 0 line 4 punting after 10 put retries
Aug 18 12:11:34 iscclr vmunix: PUTSILO: unit 0 line 2 soft silo overflow
Aug 18 12:13:19 iscclr vmunix: PUTSILO: unit 0 line 2 soft silo overflow
Aug 18 12:44:30 iscclr vmunix: PUTSILO: unit 0 line 6 soft silo overflow
Aug 18 12:44:45 iscclr last message repeated 3 times


Unit 0 is the SP/C card (Sun SBus port expander) and the "line" numbers
are the serial port numbers.

We see only the stc_drainsilo messages at one of the customer sites.

The configuration is:

Sparc1+ clone (CompuAdd) and IPC
Sbus Port Card, running Version 1.1 with patch 100464_01
Ports are attached to a TS1000 (NET's StatMux, now called SPX5)
	running at 9600 baud.

The SBus cards attached to modems running at 2400 baud do NOT seem to 
experience the same problems, so could it be that the TS1000 is 
sending garbage to the SP/C card, or the SP/C card can't handle the
speed of the TS1000?  As you can see, these messages are sporadic, as 
we "talk" thru these ports multiple times (10-20) every hour.

I've used the new SunSolve CD to search bugs/patches and common problems,
as well as looked at the Patch List recently posted.  Due to various
hardware/software vendors involved, we not sure who should be called in.

Any insight, suggestions, (or even fixes???) would be greatly
appreciated.

Lon Ricker
lbr@clear.com
Clear Communications Corp.
(708) 317-2500

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: hurf@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Hurf Sheldon)
Subject: File System mounts read only, only
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:08:31 GMT


We have a weird problem - /etc/fstab got zeroed out by a
little helper so now the IPC comes up with the disk mounted
read only so I can't fix the file... Rebooting single user
"reboot -- -s" doesn't help the mount problem.
In the course of trying to fix this I tried to make a bootable
partition on the "a" partition of a 1.3gb wren drive but installboot
won't do it to that disk. I tried 'dd' ing Sun 'a' partition over
and trased the disk so I will have to re-format.

I aldso tried booting off the cdrom but can't make it work - it
"ok boot cdrom" fails with 'no memory' - can I use 'add_services'
to get a recovery system?
Another angle would be to turn another IPC into a diskless server.
Can you do that with "add_services"?

Any help can you be?
thanks,
hurf




-- 
     Hurf Sheldon			 Network: hurf@graphics.cornell.edu
     Program of Computer Graphics	 Phone:   607 255 6713

     580 Eng. Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. 14853
From: root@egf-bbs.uucp (Super User)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Quick question
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:19:49 GMT
Organization: EGF, MN Public Access Unix

I've had several mysterious reboots over the last week.  I'm never around
to see exactly what's going on, so I really have no clue what's causing it.

Which brings me to my question.  Is anything recorded anywhere?  I checked
/usr/adm/messages but can't find anything.  The nifty error messages that
normally come up when someone simply flips the switch or shuts off the
tty console (ERROR xxx, user _name_, bad superblock, fixed, nuked, etc)
are nowhere to be found, but I'm sure they were created.

Can anyone point me to some debugging tools?  I'd really like to know what's
causing this.

Thanks,

Mike
-- 
I'm god:  Don't piss me off!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ross@mecha.mit.edu (Ross Levinsky)
Subject: How to put two dumps on one tape?
Organization: ^$
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 07:39:07 GMT

Hi,

Here's an easy one. I have two Suns, and since their / partitions are so
small, I'd like to dump them to both to one tape (sequentially) with the
"dump" command. How do I do this (preferably without using the no-rewind
options), and how do I restore the partitions correctly when they're
sequential? 

I RTFM, but the solution escapes me. Could some kind person help me out?

	
				Ross
				ross@mecha.mit.edu


P.S. I could tar them, I suppose, but the intricacies of two sequential
tar files are also unknown to me. Any enlightenment out there? Is it
just a plain file with an EOF?