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From: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu (Greg Foliente)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: 2nd reply(long) to "..Christians out there?"
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:09:02 GMT
Reply-To: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu OR pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu

In article <1992Dec24.230405.20543@news.columbia.edu>  
rss19@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Richard S Sucgang) writes:
> Earlier, Angelo Paguia stated that although he asked the question
> "how do you know that the Bible is the word of God?", he did not
> intend to put the fact to doubt. That, indeed, the Bible is the word of
> God.
> 
> Well, I don't see why. Just because it is the most widely read (well,
> owned) published piece of literature in history? Or it's age? What is  
the
> proof that that it is the word of God?
> 
> Simple curiousity, no flames (of hellf ire :).
> But I'll take jabs about heresy :).

Your (and Angelo's) "simple curiosity" and honest desire to know are to be  
admired. There are many "opinions" on what the Bible really is. But rather  
than giving weight to these opinions, I would study the Bible to know what  
it says it really is. Let it speak for itself, then you can decide whether  
you would believe what it says or what people say about it (personally,  
I'd rather take seriously what it says about itself than what others label  
it to be).

-> On the question, "Who revealed the contents of the Bible to the minds  
of the human authors?", try Exodus 24:3-4 and 34:27 and Jeremiah 30:1-2  
(to represent the O.T. part) and I Corinthians 14:37 (to represent the  
N.T. part)-- of course, it should be taken as a whole, see the next item.
-> On the question, "Who inspired the human authors to speak/write about  
what were in God's heart and mind?", check out II Peter 1:20-21 and II  
Timothy 3:16-17.
-> One may also try to find any characteristics of the Written Word (or  
the Bible) that deviate with the characteristics of the revealed nature of  
God. If the Bible is God's word, then it should be consistent with His  
nature. Check, for example, Psalm 12:6 with Deut.32:4, Ps 119:89 with Ps  
18:60, Ps 119:105 with Ps 31:5 and John 17:17 with Isa 44:6 (& I Jn 1:5).

Of course, the foregoing do not `prove' that the Bible is God's word.  
These may reveal internal `evidences' (but evidences just the same--  
acceptance or rejection of the evidences lies on you; keep in mind,  
however, that if it is indeed `the truth', rejecting it does not mean its  
untrue). There are other lines of reason and logic to go about this but  
I'll save them for "further curious thinkers" (e-mail please). 

The most important issue, however, that each one of us needs to consider  
is:
-> If the Bible is what it claims it is, how should I treat it? How should  
I respond to it? (Ang aking panalangin ay:  ikaw mismo sana ang maka-subok  
nito)
-> If it is not what it claims it is, there is no meaning to all these...
--
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Greg Foliente                   NeXTmail: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu 
Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA                 pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
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From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Phil Plans to Invite Magic Johnson
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:00:13 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

People [Dec 22] (UPI)	

MAGIC TO PHILIPPINES?:The Philippines, where basketball is the most
popular sport, plans to invite Magic Johnson to Manila to help in the
fight against AIDS, the government said Tuesday. Health Secretary Juan
Flavier said Johnson will be invited by President Fidel Ramos and
Congress sports committee head Freddie Webb to visit the Philippines
next year. Johnson recently retired from the Los Angeles Lakers a second
time after some NBA players expressed fears about playing against him.
Johnson resigned from President Bush's AIDS commission this year,
claiming the White House was not doing enough to fight the disease.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: lewc@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Lew Chua-Eoan)
Subject: Merry Xmas to all
Organization: Austin, Tx.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:20:10 GMT

Maligayang Pasko, to all the scf folks.

Just wanted to know if there are any Xaverian's out there?
( I know some people have asked this question previously,
but does anyone have a list?  If so I would like to know?
I believe Mr. Chionglo has such a list compiled...so if your
out there, could you drop me a line or two....I tried
mailing to you directly, but to no avail.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: an3892@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Gov and Rebel Soldiers Sign Cease Fire Agreement
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.filipino
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:26:59 GMT

        MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- President Fidel Ramos told Filipinos
Thursday lasting peace was now ``within our grasp'' one day after his
government and rebel soldiers signed an agreement for a cease-fire and
formal talks early next year.
        Meanwhile, 43 remaining rebel soldiers were freed from military
detention Thursday as provided for in the agreement signed between
Defense Secretary Renato de Villa and top right-wing officers led by
former army Col. Gregorio Honasan.
        All court martial proceedings against the officers have been
suspended during the peace negotiations.
        Honasan and seven other leaders of the Reform the Armed Forces
Movement ended years of hiding Wednesday and agreed to work for a 
``just, honorable and lasting peace'' with Manila.
        ``Today, the gift of lasting peace lies within our grasp. We have
stepped out from the shadows of divisiveness that turned brother against
brother,'' said Ramos in a Christmas message to the Filipino people.
        Analysts described the agreement as a breakthrough in the peace
efforts and expressed said it could help rebuild investor confidence
which has been shattered by seven right-wing coup attempts since 1986.
        Buoyed by the developments, the composite price index on the Manila
Stock Exchange bounced up 10.90 points Thursday to close at 1,234.57.
        ``We are positive that if the peace process continues, there is no
reason why investors will not come in,'' said Leonardo Granada, an
analyst at Sun Hung Kai Securities. ``If they know that we are in the
process of making peace, that will renew their confidence.''
        Peace talks with the nation's two other main insurgent groups --
communist guerrillas and Muslim separatists -- have been snagged by their
demands that formal talks be held in third countries. Ramos has insisted
that the discussions take place in the Philippines.

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From: garces_ro@uswrsl.enet.dec.com (JRG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Pilipino Movie: Lucia
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:42:10 GMT
Organization: WSLMC Sunnyvale


	I also had the chance to watch to movie but was not able to see
	the beginning. I caught it like about 11:00 pm and it was over by
 	12:30, so I think I didn't miss a lot.

	But I agree with you, this movie is a must see. It's one of the best
 	social realism Pinoy movies I have ever seen. I really like the 
	quality of this movie. You can see a lot of this type of stories
	played on live stage performances but not much on the silver screen.
	 
In article <1434@bridge2.NSD.3Com.COM>, dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia) writes...

>  THe movie had subtitles, and the actors/actresses were not familiar. 

	Most of the actors and actresses I believe were stage performers 
	that's why the acting were superb. The names shown after the movie
	rung a bell to me. I believe I'ved seen them on stage back in Manila.

	I'll check out the movie on a local movie rental shop. I'm pretty
	sure they have it out. Let me also add that Olmos mentioned that this
	movie was shown in Manila but after the board of censors cut some 
	scenes. But at least it was shown. During the Marcos days I don't 
	think this kind of movie can be out for public showing. At least
	freedom of expression is winning it's struggle back home. But they
	still have a long battle to fight........

	Maligalig na Kapaskohan at Mabungang Bagong Taon as Inyong Lahat !!!

	JR Garces
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: PH: Filipina maids (forwarded from SEASIA-L)
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:02:40 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

by way of gustilo@pobox.upenn.edu (lulu@COOMBS.ANU.EDU.AU) wrote:
: A couple of news items published in the Filipino Courier of Canberra:
:    Hong Kong maids have had their share of sad stories. There was a recent
: attempt by a powerful land developer to "evict" them from their favourite
: Sunday rendezvous at a Central district plaza. Hong Kong Land, which
: manages most of the luxury buildings around the plaza, has complained that
: the mess and noise of the Filipinas on Sunday drove away the upmarket and
: yuppie shoppers. The developer has proposed moving the Fiipinas to a nearby
: underground parking lot.

Ah, this must be the Landmark Shopping Mall Plaza near the Admiralty
building.  When I was living in Hong Kong, I used to see this big
crowd of women who spoke some strange language and ENGLISH in the
square of this mall (it is in the heart of Hong Kong's Central district).
After a few weeks (I lived not far away) I noticed the same people there
each week and asked my (X)girlfriend what the deal was.  She told me
"Well, they are maids from the Philippines and that is where they
hang out."  Not long after, I also noticed that while I would see 
them outside all the time, I NEVER saw them in the shopping mall or
the concourse.  It was then that I found out that the shopkeepers
had hired security guards to prevent the women from entering because
"they just come in to use the bathrooms, but they never buy anything."
It is no wonder because at the time, the typical wage for a maid, as
I later found out, was about US$5,000-7,000/year, most of which they
sent back to the Philippines.  This all happened about 5 years ago.

There is indeed a major prejudice against Filipinos in HK, but as this
article later mentions, there is really not a hell of a lot the 
Philippine government can do about it short of restricting work visas.
If they do that, the HK people will just turn to Thailand/Malaysia/pick
a poor country for their labor.  I think the reason that the HK people
prefer these women is that (a) they very often speak English and (b)
many are also well educated (but couldn't find work in the Philippines).
This is such a tragedy, as most of the Pilipinas I met in that square
were so kind hearted and seemed to relieved that a white guy was hanging
out with them to talk for a few hours.  I met some good friends there
who I still correspond with.  I hope things change for the better, but
I am not optimistic.

Cheers,

Chris

---
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ritz@ritz.mordor.com                | company since I own the company.
{backbone}!rutgers!spcvxb!ritz!ritz | Ritz International, Inc.
OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2  | Import/Export Consultants
From: dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David Leslie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: split
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:04:19 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


So, does this group split in half at 0:00 hours GMT? Or what??

:) 

Happy New Year!

 /  Amiga  ///    |  U.S.C. Trojans  | O Bar  | David Leslie        \
|         ///     |     Fight On!    | E O    |                      |
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From: dsc3jfs@imc10.med.navy.mil (John Skoda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Information
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:09:57 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Electronic Learning Facilitator, inc


 I am czecho-slovakian from my fathers side of the family, where can I find out
more information about by family origin?  I haven't really put much
effort into tracing back my "roots".  I am wondering if anyone out
there can point me in the right direction...  Where can I get
information about a Skoda family who lived in Brandenschadt (spelling)
around the turn of the century (circa 1900)?
--

-- John F Skoda                              The nice thing about standards   
-- electronic learning facilitators, inc.    is that there are so many to
-- Bethesda, MD                              choose from, and if you dont
-- dsc3jfs@imc10.med.navy.mil                see one you like, wait 'till
with DISCLAIMER_PACKAGE;                     next year...
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: BUYING CZECHOSLOVAKIAN CURRENCY
Date: 22 Dec 1992 06:25:53 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

Hi!  I am collecting foreign currencies.  If interested, please contact
robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
(internet)
From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: split
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:15:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1i0qdjINNdkd@phakt.usc.edu> dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David Leslie) writes:
>
>So, does this group split in half at 0:00 hours GMT? Or what??

Well, it still appears to be here intact (the newsgroup, that is...)

>:) 

:-)


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"Two men say they're jesus, one of them must be wrong," M. Knopfler
From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Import/Export Research
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:27:36 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to the Czecho-Slovak nations? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in those individual countries about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

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From: mahadeva@chimi.engr.ucdavis.edu (Vimalan Mahadevan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: teaching materials for czech language
Date: 28 Dec 1992 15:09:28 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



I am interested in finding out teaching materials for the Czech language.
Could anyone send me references or direct me to an appropriate source?  I am
particularly interested in books, audio cassettes, etc. geared for the English
speaker.

Vim
From: rdaily@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (ronald.r.dailey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak,co.general
Subject: Czech lang classes near Denver
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:06:01 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


I would like to establish communication with relatives living
in Brataslava and Prague and plan to travel there this spring.  
It has come to my attention that they don't speak German as my
grandmother did, but rather Czech.

Could someone please recommend a good way to learn basics of
the Czech language in the Denver area before I travel there 
this spring?

Any other comments/advice on travel there and cultural differences
would also be welcome.

Thank you in advance.

Dick Dailey
rdaily@cbnewsg.ATT.COM
From: Jim_May@macgate.csuchico.edu (Jim May)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Name of new Czech Republic
Date: 24 Dec 92 18:11:17 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: mlib13-mac13.csuchico.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A75F3F147A013C71@mlib13-mac13.csuchico.edu>
X-XXDate: Thu, 24 Dec 92 10:19:00 GMT

It's easy to see that an independent Slovak Republic will be called
Slovakia.  But what about the Czech Republic?  Will it be known as
Czechia, or something like that, or rather Bohemia and Moravia (with
foreboding parallel to Bosnia and Herzegovina that everyone shortens to
Bosnia)?
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Help ! Leukemia, Bone Marrow Donor sought
Keywords: Leukemia, Bone Marrow Donor sought
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:31:32 GMT



***************************************************************************

	                 A SPECIAL REQUEST


This is an unusual kind of request..

	In December 1989, Ragesh Paliyath, now a 14 year old from
Waterloo, was diagnosed as having a dangerous form of Lukemia known as
chronic myelogenous leukemia.  Through medication he reached a stage of
remission and remained in remission until January 1992.

	Chronic stage of myelogenous leukemia reaches a stage called
'blast crisis' where the control of cell division cannot be achieved by
administering medication available at present.  The only hope for
patients with this type of leukemia is the availability of a matching
bone marrow from a donor.

	Unfortunately, Ragesh's bone marrow type is different from that
of his immediate family members.  A search for matching bone marrow in
North American and European registers has been futile.

	Under these circumstances and with the appearance of leukemic
cells again, the Canadian Red Cross Society has offered help in
screening individuals especially of East Indian ethnic origin for
obtaining a matching bone marrow.

    [ those living in Canada can have the blood tests involving the
      HLA typing ( this is to determine the antigens) and other
      tests done FREE of charge; however one is required to contact
             Canadian Red Cross Society
             Hamilton Branch
             400 King Street
             Hamilton, Ontario
             Canada L8N 1C3  
      Or those living in Canada can contact the local Red Cross Society and
      obtain more info re how to participate in this donor program; please
      contact the Hamilton Branch for full details] 

One should be between 17 and 59 years of
age and should be eligible to donate blood( free of diseases such as
diabetes ). 

The chances of finding a match is somewhere in the range of 1 in several 
thousands and therefore more the number of volunteers the better the chances
are. The prospective donors are kindly requested to contact the Hamilton
Red Cross Society for further details. 

Please come forward and increase the chances of saving a bright young fellow.

If you need further info please contact any of the following numbers
( eastern time)

	Thank you very much...

1. 9 - 11 AM and 2 - 11 PM  Week days
   Anytime on week ends. Please contact
   GOPI  OR RAMANI PALIYATH   at (519) 886 - 1412

2. 9 AM - 9 PM  Week days.  Please contact
   KUMARI SELVAKUMAR  at (519) 885 - 0338.

3. 9 AM - 9 PM  Week days.  Please contact
   INDIRA SINGH  at  (519) 747 - 4619.
   Please leave message if she is not home.

**************************************************************************


    - Selva
From: elee6eg@jane.uh.edu (S.SANJAY GOPAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: "malar" paadalgal.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:01 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <BzH2xw.109D@austin.ibm.com>, speri%nfse.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com writes...
> 
>In article <1gr49kINNbh6@menudo.uh.edu>, aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable) writes:
>> malar and its variances:
>> [1] malare, malare theriyathO  [movie: thEn nilavu]
>> [2] malarnthum malaraatha [movie: paasa malar]
>> [3] malarkalaip pOl thangai [movie: paasa malar]
>> [4] malarE, kurinji malarE [movie: doctor siva]
>> [5] poove, pooch chooda vaa [movie: poove pooch chooda vaa]
>> [6] pookkalaithaan parikkaatheenga [movie: ???]
> 
>   Movie: Pookkalaip ParikkaatheerkaL
> 
>> [7] poovil vandu koodum [movie: kaathal Oviyam]
>> [8] poove nee yaar cholli [movie: ???]
>> [9] poove, chempoove [movie:???]
>> [10] poovizhi vaasalil vanthu [movie: deepam]
>> Feel free to add more.
> 
> [11] malargaLilE aaraadhanai [movie: 
> [12] aayiram malargalE malarungaL [movie: Niram Maaraatha PookaL]
> [13] malargalil aadum ilamai pudhumaiyE [movie: Kalyaana Raman]
> [14] poomazhai thoovi vasanthangaL vaazhththa [movie: Ninaiththathai
>                                                  Mudippavan]
> [15] senthoorappoovE senthoorappoovE [movie: 16 vayadhinilE]
> [16] roja malarE raja kumari [movie: ??]
> [17] poovannam pOla nenjam poopaalam paadum [movie: Azhiyaatha KolangaL]
> [18] poo vaiththa poovaikku pookaL sonthamO [movie: Mattukkaara Velan]
> [19] poo maalayil Or malligai, ingu naan thaan [movie: Ooty Varai Uravu]
> [20] poovarasam poo pooththaatchu, ponnukku [movie: KizhakE POgum Rayil]
> [21] sevvanthip poo mudichcha chinnakkaa [movie: 16 vayadhinilE]
> 

  [22] Roja pu adivanthathu [movie: Agni N]

regards
sanjay
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL - 49
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:02:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47684
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

< Dec. 24, 1992 - MGR's 5th death anniversary>


	"kOdi makkaL sErnthu vaazha, vEndum viduthalai !
 	 kOyil pOnRa naadu kaaNa, vEndum viduthalai !
 	 achaminRi aadip paada, vEndum viduthalai !
 	 adimai vaazhum ulagam engum, vEndum viduthalai !!"
	
	From "adhO andha paRavai pOla vaazha vEndum!..."
	
	Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
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Contributions Welcome. Please send YOUR minnal varigaL to
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