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From: martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin)
Subject: Re: Info on Dan Quayle's camera coverage during Buchanan's speech
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:48:21 GMT

In article <BtGI03.Dwu@wpi.WPI.EDU> nyh@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nevo Y Hed) writes:
>
>	I know, all you devoued Republicans are going to tell me that
>Q is just running for VP while Willie runs for President - but
>remember - a VP _HAS_ to be good enough to be a president - cause he
>might become one.  I, for example, would have been happier to see the
>democratic ticket reversed - Gore would probably make the best
>president out of the 4.

Gore as president!!??!!  That's one of the scariest things I have ever heard
of!  If he was ever to get in that office, he would even outdo slick Willie
in thrashing on businesses (small and large).  With his radical environmental
friends, we would soon find ourselves unable to grow crops or manufacture
anything.  

Translation-----The only thing scarier than Slick Willie becoming president
is that he wouldn't manage to live out his term!

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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Clinton, draft dodger. NOT!
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:44:39 GMT


>At his speech to the American Legion yesterday, Clinton said that
>it was their right not to vote for him because he ran away from
>the draft and Vietnam War, but he claimed that he did this not
>because he was a coward or because he wasn't patriotic, but
>because he "didn't believe in US policy in Vietnam." This is yet
>more history revisionism from Clinton; however, he did finally
>admit that he did something illegal in dodging the draft.

More reason to seriously consider whether or not Rush is a good source
for news (or even the truth).

Here is the actual text of that part of Clinton's speech:

>     Because of my respect for the American Legion,
>I am here to speak to you as a candidate for the
>presidency.  But before I can speak in that role, I
>have to tell you something very personal -- not as
>a Governor  -- but as a citizen.
>
>     You know that I never served in the military.
>
>     You know that I opposed the war in Vietnam.
>
>     But I want you to know this:  I was never
>against the heroic men who served in that war.  I
>honored your service then, and I honor it still.
>
>     Although I have discussed my conduct during
>the Vietnam War in great detail, I feel I owe you
>one final statement, to set the record straight.
>
>     In 1969, while studying at Oxford on a Rhodes
>scholarship, I received a draft notice, which
>arrived late.  My draft board postponed the
>induction date to give me time to finish my first
>year of study.  That summer, I agreed to join the
>ROTC program and attend law school at the
>University of Arkansas.  But a few weeks later, I
>changed my mind and decided I should take my
>chances with the draft.
>
>     Not long after that, the lottery was
>initiated.  My draft lottery number was 311.  If it
>had been 3, or if my number had been called, I
>would have served, and gone to Vietnam if so
>ordered.  But I won't lie to you:  I was relieved
>when I saw my number was 311, not because I didn't
>want to serve my country, but because I "believed
>so strongly that our policy in Vietman was wrong.
>
>     I still believe that. It weakened and divided
>America and made us reluctant to use our strength
>in other parts of the world.  But I know many of
>you then and many of you today disagree with me.  I
>respect that.

Even after you receive a draft notice, you are free to do anything you
legally can do before the induction date to keep out of serving in the
Army. Case in point, my brother received his draft notice in 1967. But
before his induction date came up, he had enlisted in the Naval Reserves.
This is no different that Clinton making arrangements to be in a ROTC
program.

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: art@world.std.com (Al Thompson)
Subject: Re: Keys to the election
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<mykes.0ca9@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> <5156@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:35:04 GMT

In article <5156@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> sdbst5@gl.pitt.edu (Stephen D Brener) writes:

   In article <mykes.0ca9@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

[...]
   >The biased media calls any kind of Bush attack sleaze politics and praises
   >the Clinton campaign.  That's not going to stop Bush.

   The sleaze aspects come from personal attacks on character, something that
   the Republicans have been pursuing vigorously.  Outside of the one allegation
   about Jennifer's Bush, what else have the Dems done that amounts to cheap
   shots at personality?  (As far as I'm concerned the allegations leveled at
   Clinton suggest that he did not want to commit genocide, might have partied
   a bit when he was young, and inspired one woman to come forward to collect
   a lot of money telling tales of whoopie--unsubstantiated I might add.)

The sleaze from the dems is really quite subtle.  They say something
then, when the repubs repeat their words it's sleaze.

Some examples:
The "bimbo eruptions".  That was a quote from a democratic campaign aide.
The quote was repeated by Mary Matalin.  By the time it gets to the New
York Times it's Matalin's quote.

Willie Horton was raised by Al Gore in his 1988 campaign.  It was the
dems who brought up the fact that Horton was black.  I didn't even know
it until a democrat told me.

In 1988 Mike Dukakis said, "I am a card carrying member of the ACLU."
The republicans then quote the man's own words and that's sleazy.

The democrats are real masters of this kind of lie.
From: Phil_Warburton@grace.UUCP (Phil Warburton)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Depressing Sports
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:19:51 EST
Organization: Graceful Boot BBS (send replies to moscom.com!grace!User_Name)

Just remember.. A republican brought us into the Great Depression..

I think it is ridiculous, the amount of priority Americans place on Sports.
We here in Greece, NY just had another Tax increase to benifit the
Elementary school sports programs!

/

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Phil / BIM

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From: steve@nmt.edu (Steve "GimpMeister" Cook)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush's CompuServe User ID Number?
Keywords: Compuserve
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:55:14 GMT
Followup-To: steve@jupiter.nmt.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Mexico Tech


  Could someone please send me Rush's compuserve user ID number? 

	Thanks in Advance

-steve@jupiter.nmt.edu
-- 
"I won't come out, You must come in to me.
 Into my womb garden where I peer out.
 Where I can construct a universe within the skull to rival the real."
-James Douglas Morrison
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.news-media
From: lyford@dagny.webo.dg.com (Lyford Beverage)
Subject: Re: Media Bias at Republican convention
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 13:11:44 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

>>There was even the spate of pro-Buchanan
>>bias during the early primaries, which is hard indeed for the Liberal Media
>>Conspiracy theorists to account for...

>I'll accept that *you* saw this--I'd be a hypocrite not give you that.
>The only coverage I ever saw of Buchanan, though, was just like he
>received at the convention--this guy is a radical right-wing extremist.
>They constantly lumped him together with David Duke (a person the media
>did not even *try* to give a balanced view of...).  Duke is actually  
>a great example--whatever you think of him.  Can anybody really say that
>the coverage of him was "news"?  Just the facts, you make up your own
>mind about him?  I think not.


Actually, the Liberal Media consiracy theory can account easily for pro-Buchanan bias during the primaries:
	1)  Buchanan had no chance to win, and Bush will get the nomination
	2)  We don't want Bush to remain strong, because we want a Democrat to win.
	Therefore
	3)  Supporting Buchanan hurts Bush, and shows how weak and beatable he is.

I don't necessarily subscribe to this theory, though I do believe that the coverage of the Republicans during the week of the convention was frighteningly biased.  One example of this that I've not heard mentioned, was the constant impression in the mainstream media that the Republicans were not discussing issues at all, and spent all of their time bashing Hillary Clinton.  I watched quite a bit on C-Span, though I didn't watch everything, and it certainly seemed to me that Jack Kemp and Phil Gramm were di



scussing the economy on Tuesday night. I also missed all of the Hillary bashing.  The only reference to her that I heard was that 30-45 seconds of Buchanan's speech, which I didn't consider particularly harsh, though probably unnecessary.  I would appreciate it if someone could list all of the other Hillary bashers, so that I'll know what I missed.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.news-media
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Media Bias
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:38:38 GMT

nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:

>jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>>nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
>>>titmas@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Eric Titmas) writes:
>>>>Now a question for the liberals:
>>>>How can you be pro-abortion and anti capital punishment?

>>>    That's easy. I'm *pro* capital punishment.
>>>    Next question?

>>Come on!  This is getting completely out of hand!  We can't have people
>>making their own decisions about things.  You are either a conservative
>>or a liberal and you have to adhere to the conventional wisdom of each.

>    Are you sure that using the term "conventional wisdom" in conjunction 
>with the word "liberal" doesn't constitute some form of internal paradox?

No, I'm able to use "liberal" and "conventional wisdom" in the same
sentence.  Just don't ask me to use "Democrat" instead--that brings up
images of a recent convention without much wisdom...

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
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From: bks@alfa.berkeley.edu (Bradley K. Sherman)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Remarks by William Bennett (text)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:16:27 GMT
Organization: The Philosopher's Stoned
NNTP-Posting-Host: alfa.berkeley.edu

>>
>>Republican National Convention
>>Remarks by William Bennett, former Secretary of Education
>>

Yes the former Secretary of Education, where he was a whiner and
a complainer and did nothing to improve education in our nation
in any measurable way.

Likewise as the Drug Czar (with a nicotine habit!) he moaned and
groaned and was completely ineffective.

What is this guy's claim to fame, anyway?  Henry Kissinger
award for most respected intellectual with absolutely no
accomplishments?   Most appearances on MacNeil-Lehrer by a
cabinet-level official? (I will admit that compared to Quayle
he's the second coming of Aristotle.)
----
    --Brad Sherman (bks@alfa.berkeley.edu)

I freely admit that I am a hyperbolist.  I cannot control my hyperbolism.
It began when I was fishing in the St. Lawrence River: You should have
seen the teeth on that 90 pound muskelunge ...
From: maven@lerc.nasa.gov (Larry Fishbach)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Far Right's New "Bill of Rights"
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:18:07 GMT
Reply-To: maven@hercules.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, OH


            Far Right's Proposed New "Bill of Rights"
                                
                          Amendment 1
Congress shall make laws compelling the establishment of religion
and demanding the exercise thereof; and abridging the freedom of
speech and of the liberal press; and preventing the people from
peaceful assembly; and forbidding the courts to redress
grievances.

                          Amendment 2
A well-regulated militia being superfluous to the issue, the
people shall be compelled to bear arms and kill each other.

                          Amendment 3
No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house,
without the consent of the owner, unless that house is being used
for the distribution of illegal substances.

                          Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers. and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall be violated under the excuse of being for the public good,
and no warrants shall need to be issued, but upon probable cause
supported by anonymous sources, any place shall be subject to
search and persons or things seized.

                          Amendment 5
Any person who refuses to testify in court about his involvement
in a crime, shall automatically be judged guilty.  His property
may be seized upon the governments determination that he must be
guilty.

                          Amendment 6
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right
to a speedy and public trial before he is found guilty.  He is
entitled to the assistance of counsel for his defense but not for
any appeals.

                          Amendment 7
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall
exceed twenty million dollars, the right of trial by jury shall
be preserved.

                          Amendment 8
Excessive bail shall be required to ensure that the accused are
kept behind bars where they belong.

                          Amendment 9
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall be
ignored if they conflict with the Walton's version of Family
Values.

                          Amendment 10
The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, shall be reserved for the Supreme Court, except
that the States shall have the right to ban abortions.

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maven@hercules.lerc.nasa.gov   Larry Fishbach @ NASA Lewis Cleveland Ohio
"Everything here is my own opinion"   Quoth the Maven "Evermore"
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From: ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Lance Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Are Republicans Evil?
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:32:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.

In article <Bttupu.E6H@acsu.buffalo.edu> mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu (Matthew J. Bernhardt) writes:
}lazarus@wixer.cactus.org (Michael Lax) writes:
}
}>Huh?  What are "lifestyle" rights?  The Constitution mentions "Life, Liberty
}>and the pursuit of Happiness."
}
}	Nowhere in the Constitution does the phrase "Life, Liberty and the
}pursuit of Happiness" appear.  You are quoting instead from the Declaration
}of Independence, a document that has no legal force.

Well, one could argue that it does have quite a bit of moral force.  Certainly
quite a bit more than the Pledge of Allegiance, which the Republicans (and
Democrats, for that matter) choose to recite at the beginning of all their
functions.  Certainly, the Republicans seem to enjoy the bit about 
"One Nation, Under God", and use it quite a bit in their speeches...
pity they don't seem to listen to part about "Liberty and Justice for ALL".


Lance
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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Funny quote just heard on Rush
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:39:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <BtGGJo.BHC@wpi.WPI.EDU>, nyh@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nevo Y Hed) writes
  concerning Rush's joke that he saw a sign about Slick Willie's
  family values advisor being Woody Allen:
 
> 	I seem to have missed one thing on that joke, where is the
> part that sez that Woody is even a democrat not to say that he
> actually has any affiliation [besides possibly registring and voting
> as one] with the democratic party.

   Ah, Nevo, Nevo, Nevo.  I believe the remark was made in jest.
   Now what can we learn from this?  Why, that ultra-liberals have
no sense of humor... except when making cruel (and often false)
remarks about Dan Quayle.

                                     A Canadian In-Law To-Be
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: lazarus@wixer.cactus.org (Michael Lax)
Subject: Re: Are Republicans Evil?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:32:25 GMT

In article <Bttupu.E6H@acsu.buffalo.edu> mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu (Matthew J. Bernhardt) writes:
>lazarus@wixer.cactus.org (Michael Lax) writes:
>
>>Huh?  What are "lifestyle" rights?  The Constitution mentions "Life, Liberty
>>and the pursuit of Happiness."
>
>	Nowhere in the Constitution does the phrase "Life, Liberty and the
>pursuit of Happiness" appear.  You are quoting instead from the Declaration
>of Independence, a document that has no legal force.
>-- 
I stand corrected as to the source.  However, while the Declaration of
Independence may have no _legal_ force, it is the document on which much
of what our country represents is based.  Also, no one has answered the
question about what are "lifestyle" rights.

>Matt Bernhardt
>University of Buffalo             THIS SPACE FOR RENT.
>mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.clinton
From: cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Bush reactive?
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:18:12 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <machman.715464078@milton>, machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman) writes:
> cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> 
>>I'm surprised Gore is not blaming the Bush administration for their
>>lack of action regarding global warming--  if Gore were president,
>>there would be no global warming, thus giving us cooler oceans,
>>which would have resulted in Hurricane Andrew being "a gentle
>>late summer shower."
> 
> ridiculous.  either you're scientifically illiterate, or a republican,
> or both.  i believe if Gore were vice-president, we'd be trying to do 
> something about reducing the risk of global warming, at least not 
> ignoring it like the Bush administration has been.
> 
> 						-- dave
> 

     Lighten up...if you cannot laugh at this amusing, FACETIOUS exercise 
(based on Gore's book, I might add), listen to Rush laugh at you (a little
Rush Limbaugh lingo there).  You may think I'm scientifically 
illiterate, but at least I capitalize the beginning of my sentences. :-)

Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Clinton, Quayle, and the draft (Was Re: Clinton, draft dodger. YUP!)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:43:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.003037.14137@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:

|> Actually, that wasn't the issue.  You've conveniently redirected it.
|> The issue was: if it was OK for Clinton to do *anything legal* to get out
|> of going to Vietnam, why was that not OK for Quayle?  (You can talk about
|> how you scorn people with connections in some other post.)

	Actually, I think that your the one doing the redirecting, chip.
Lots of people talk about Dans war record, but what really makes it 
interesting is his insistance that Clinto is a draft dodger. If Dan
wasn't so self ritious about it, I don't think that it would be the
issue that it is. I haven't heard Clinton calling Dan a draft dodger,
for instance.

	Dans record is an issue because Dan made it an issue. If the GOP
stoppes talking about Clintons draft experiance, then I expect that the
Dems will also drop the subject. After all, there are so many other, more
substancial issues to use on Dan Quayle.

|> Get real.  He may have had friends in the right places, but he certainly was
|> not brought up in a rich, powerful family.  You've been reading too many
|> newspapers.  But I digress.  This wasn't the original subject... 

	Well, he father is a millionare several times over. Thats rich
and powerful in my book, I don't know about yours. Dan is only worth
about a mil, because his dad put most of the estate in a trust fund for
the grandchildren, presumably to avoid a conflict of interest with Dans
deregulatory efforts.

-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
The feminist agenda is a socialist, anti-family political movement that 
encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice 
witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. - Pat Robertson 1992