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From: cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: House Comps (was: NO SPLITS and Don'talk about that...)
Keywords: house compilations
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:37:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


	About some House comps,

	I have a comp called House Haulibes (sp??) I forget what the
second word is. But this comp has some good house and it has the song
"This is Acid".

			Just my $.00001 worth

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From: rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: New York Raves/clubs requested
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:54:44 GMT
Reply-To: rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


My friend and I are coming out to N.Y. this weekend and we wanted to know
what clubs were good for the alternative/techno/industrial scene.
We were going to go to limelight, what others are there and what
do they do?

I know this is a FAQ, but I haven't read in a while....


	Thanx

	dave
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Andrew C Crosby)
Subject: discography +8
Originator: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:07:31 GMT


-----------

hi y'all. i've decided to try and maintain a discography
for +8/probe records. so here's what i have so far:

if anyone notices any gaps, or has stuff to add (in particualr
new releases (i've got a new dbx record on probe that i have yet to
add)) please mail me at   ndc@engin.umich.edu

thanks

=====================================================
plus 8 records

+8001	states of mind	elements of tone b/w chant 90/you like that?/audio Q-5a
+8002	kenny larkin	we shall overcome b/w rubbernotes
+8003	cybersonik	technarchy b/w algorhythm/melody 928.V2
+8004	f.u.s.e.	approach + identify b/w phase 1/technotropic
+8005	speedy j	wicked saw/minimal b/w journey/spectrum
+8006	psyance		motion b/w EQ/andromeda's dance
+8007	cybersonik	backlash b/w revelation 928/lashout
+8008	kenny larkin	integration/colony b/q metropolis/colonize
+8009	various		from our minds to yours - vol 1 Dbl 12"/cd compilition
+8010	final exposure	vortex b/w synergy1/synergy2
+8011	speedy j	evolution b/w destroit/analogical dub
+8012	misc		+8 t-shirt  vers.1 - 1991/vers.2 - 1992
+8013	f.u.s.e.	substance abuse b/w f.u.2/confusion
+8014	speedy j	rise/something for your mind b/w tresor/deOrbit
+8015	various		blueprints for modern technology
			(a-sides of singles +8001 - +8011) cd only
+8016	cybersonik	thrash b/w the mind's eye/thrashing
+8017	v-room		g-hertz/sonic jungle b/w audiology/no end in sight
+8018	misc		+8 condoms
+8019	alan oldham	+8 comic book (includes f.u.s.e. flexi-disc with
			overdrive (demoversion) b/w interlude)

probe records (sub label)

pro1	f.u.s.e.	f.u. b/w texas audio assasin
			(joint project w/Hi-Bias records)
pro2	circuit breaker	overkill b/w frenzy open your mind
pro3	spawn		infiltrator/infiltration b/w the thinking man/tension
pro4	0733		record bass story b/w the loner/alternative roots
pro5	public energy	hemi-sync part 1+2 b/w three o' three/b.s.g.
pro6	deko		hyperbelle b/w how do you like your cookies?
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Satoshi/Marshall
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:35:35
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com's message of Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:48:43 GMT

>>>>> "Pete" == Pete Ashdown <pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com> writes:

  Pete> Knuckles was profiled and his keyboardist was interviewed.  What does Knuckles
  Pete> do these days anyway?  From the sound of the article, he just has a remixing
  Pete> team doing mixes under his name.

Franki Knuckles still spins in New York I'm pretty sure. He also probably
spins for a club or two out there. 

He was out here for a gig this summer and spun a lot of the more
Chicago/New York house stuff.
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They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Future Sound Of London: Accelerator
From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:44:12 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Oct14.184134.23240@sco.COM>, jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:
> 
> jlacour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Lacour) writes:
>>In article <&h31Hx-84a@atlantis.psu.edu> K6K@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Kin W Koo) writes:
>>>In <1992Oct13.212840.11578@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu writes:
>>>> The CD cover clearly says "Central Industrial"
>>>Well, my CD cover says "Central Industrail"
>>Mine says 'Industrial' also - I say children, what does it call mean?
> 
> Mine says "industrail."  It means that the album was reissued several
> times.  Which it was.  In fact, my housemate's CD doesn't even say "future
> sound of london" on the disc itself - it says "various artists"!!  My CD
> *does* say FSOL on the disc.
> 
> As to the "industrial"/"industrail" debate, I think it's clear that it
> should be "industrial."  After all, that's what the sample says, plus they
> sampled huge wodges of Throbbing Gristle's CD1 (classic industrial music
> originally published on the Industrial Records label).  Plus, the vinyl
           ^^^^^^^^
Just to be incredibly anal about the above, CD1 was not released until 1986. It
was a bunch of studio works from 1979. Never released on Industrial Records,
only on Mute, and only on CD. (Which actually when you think about it
commonsensically, TG and thus Industrial stopped releasing stuff in '81, and
cds didn't come about till later, so why would it be called CD1?)

-Kreig
From: ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 808 State's new single
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:44:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo

b102smi@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley) said...
|Anways, the 808 State album is called _Gorgeous_ and it should be out
|this upcoming Tuesday, the 13th.

It's been pushed back to Nov. 3.

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From: Paul@unix.brighton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Masterboy
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:55:26 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

Just to follow on from a previous posting that talked about Masterboy and
'Shake it up and dance', where the hell can I get hold of it ?

I believe its on the spaghetti label in this country, but noone seems to know
about it.
From: 471-1@.arizona.edu (E. Shane Jimerfield)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Please help
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:40:16 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Originator: 471-1@air.atmo.arizona.edu

kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
 
I respond as follows:

 1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
 Yes                  [X]
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [ ]
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Other                [ ]
 
 2.) Are you pro choice?
 Yes                  [x]
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [ ]  
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Other                [ ]
 
 3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
 Yes                  [ ]
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [x]
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Other                [ ]
 
 4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their              
parental rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
 Yes                  [ ]
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [x]
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Other                [ ]
 
 5.) What sex are you?
 Male               [X]
 Female             [ ]
 
 6.) How old are you?
 Under 18           [ ]
 19 to 65           [X]
 Over 65            [ ]
 
 7.) What religion are you?
 Protestant         [ ]
 Catholic           [ ]
 Jewish             [ ]
 Other              [ ]
 None               [X]
 
 8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
 Democratic         [ ]
 Republican         [ ]
 Green              [x]
 None               [ ]
 
 9.) How many years of education have you completed?
 Grade School       [ ]
 High School        [ ]
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 More               [ ]
From: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: AIRPLAY for your DEMO
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:46:05 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Anyone with DEMO tapes/pressings that would like airplay
 please contact me....
 I do a Radio programme here in Sydney Australia and also
 play at some Raves/Clubs/etc.
 
 e-mail: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
         or usr6264a@tso.uc.edu
 
 or by snail mail:
 
 Michael Dagn,
 19/59 Whaling Road.,
 North Sydney, 2060
 NSW, Australia
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.oz.AU   or   usr6264a@tso.uc.edu
DJ MD (Michael Dagn) of....
M     D     A
Music Dance Aesthetic   Saturday Nights   10pm-2am   2RSR   88.9MHz
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Xref: sparky alt.rave:3791 rec.music.cd:6891 rec.music.misc:25019
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: SUMMARY: information regarding "Poing" by Rotterdam Termination Source
Summary: vinyl info, anyway
Keywords: Poing Dutch Holland Rotterdam Termination Source disco techno
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:52:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


        Here's what information I have collected so far.  Big thanks to Rauno
Tamminen, Sho Kuwamoto, Brian O. Bozarth, Sven Venema, and Bob Devaney.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Sho Kuwamoto <sho@physics.purdue.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:19:43 -0500

Lemme see...
[The 12" single is] put out by

Rotterdam Records
P.O. Box 9442
3007 AK Rotterdam
Holland
FAX: 0031-104514436

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any info about the distributor.
We can, however, give you the number of a DJ mail order place which
would probably carry it, if it does indeed exist on CD.  They 
*definitely* carry the 12".

Culture 7
(513) 821-7783

The store is in Cincinnati, and it usually takes them 2 days to ship
your order if you order after 3.  They do credit cards or COD.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Sven Venema <svenema@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au>

Ok, well, I've got the original Poing 12" (which is WAY better than the
remix). 
Poing - Rotterdam Termination Source 
The record ID is - ROT 004

Rotterdam Records 
P.O Box 9442, 3007 AK ROTTERDAM, HOLLAND.

Distribution by: Midtown Records Rotterdam, Holland.

This is off the back cover so I'm pretty sure it is correct :)
I haven't seen a CD version of it, but that doesn't mean that it
doesn't exist.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Devaney <DEVANEYB@elmer1.bobst.nyu.edu>
Date: 08 Oct 1992 18:38:00 -0400 (EDT)

I have "Poing" on 12" vinyl.  I have never seen it on CD, but then
again, I don't look for CD's.  It's on Watts (U.S., not a European
release).  If you have anything on Watts (U.S.), like "James Brown is
Dead" by L.A. Style (if you collect CD's though, Arista would be the
label) or "Scream" by N.Y. Style, then you have the Watts address.
Otherwise, I can provide it for you.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
From: smv3@po.CWRU.Edu (Sean M. Vadas)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Does Anyone Know This Song?
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:23:45 GMT
Reply-To: smv3@po.CWRU.Edu (Sean M. Vadas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



I heard this hardcore techno song at Metropolis in Cleveland
last Sunday, and I have no clue what it was.  It starts out
as a speed metal sort of riff and then it says 'techno rock'
repeatedly thruought the song.  Has anyone ever heard this before?
Who does this?

Thanks,
Sean
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
	<1b0nckINN998@agate.berkeley.edu> <knhp7xl@lynx.unm.edu>
	<1687AC491.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:19:19 GMT

In article <1687AC491.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> 
EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:

>   Too bad, cuz they weren't. Iggy & the Psychedelic Stooges and the
>   Motor City Five didn't really consider themselves punk, and I don't
>   really see how Lester Bangs' opinion matters in retrospect.

First of all, what bands consider their music to be is extremely
insignificant.  Mississippi Fred McDowell onced recorded an album
called "I Do Not Play No Rock and Roll", but damned if he wasn't one
of the most interesting rock and roll musicians ever.  The Ramones
probably thought they were playing beach party music.  

>Either way, I challenge you to find *any* references of Bangs' to "punk rock"
>in Creem by or before '73. If you do, I'll send you an issue of Bomp that
>I bought in '79 that still has the Police bumper sticker intact. Plus, you
>like Devo, right? I'll send you a Devo bootleg album that I bought in '80.

Whether or not Bangs was calling those acts "punk" is irrelevent for a
number of reasons.  If the debate is over how old the term is then you
don't need to look to Bangs for pre-73 references to "punk" music.  If
the debate is whether Bangs coined the term, he denied it completely
himself, so that's not a problem.

Why exactly are you so loathe to consider the MC5 as "punk rock"?
Musically, it sure SOUNDS a whole lot like what other bands started
doing years later calling it "punk".  Terms like "punk rock" or even
"rock & roll" were not coined at some specific time by musicians or
critics.  The terms evolved organically, sometimes with very different
interpretations.  This isn't like "Dada" or "post-structuralism" or
even "Modern art", formal terms with specific meanings coined by
people at a particular time.  

This whole debate is simply an instance of music fans' seemingly
obsessive need to narrow their scope of interest.  "Oh, *I* don't like
that because it's X, I *only* like Y".  My own definition of punk rock
includes the MC5, why not?  Loud, simple, aggressive music.  The bands
*I* have a hard time including are crap like the Smiths or the Cure
whose members have made the punk rock claim.  I'd be more inclined to
call them "Weepy Whiner Rock".  

- Dan
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| dan@gnu.ai.mit.edu  | things that make me feel this way all of the time"   |
|                     |                            - Spiritualized           |
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From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: sond ID
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:19:22 GMT

-camper.
.


-- 
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                             stay groovy.
 camper english    (medication time, medication time)      @buphy.bu.edu
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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Guerilla
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:29:42 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

Ye Archiviste speaks :::
-- 
And I answer !

23rd Records in Glasgow ARE INDEED alive and kicking !
I was in on my lunch break this afternoon to get the aforementioned DUB
HOUSE DISCO ,the new System 7 EP ,and the new 23rd Precinct label record .

The shop has got a bit COLD recently (ie not as friendly) ,but the record
selection is still as massive as ever ....
There is also a new record shop :DUB Records ,which allows you instant
access to all new releases so as you can hear before you buy ..

23rd now also sells Dispatch bags/caps/t-shirts etc ,and still has a
large THRASH area at the back ,and also some Arcade Machines !!

The record you reffered to is Havanna Schtoom (song name the same) ,and
is absolutely BRILLIANT tribal/dub ....they are now on their second 12"
(name escapes me) ,and it is just as good .......

Hope this brings some fond memories .......

Just of to Glasgow's best new club , the Arches tonight ,with the Slam
DJ's !
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: Re: New York Raves/clubs requested
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:29:57 GMT


Sundays at the Chase Bar (lower east side) is worth checking out.
I didn't feel the discrimination if there was any.  Minimal attitude,
hilarious stage dancers - drag and real.  Limelight on Tuesday is  
techno/industrial, but I guess you have to be screened by a panel to get in.   
Worthless.

Chrispy
penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu

Xref: sparky alt.rave:3866 rec.music.misc:25281
From: ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: US Orb info
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:14:41 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo

Latest info from Big Life Records in New York:

The initial shipment (only) of U.F.Orb to American stores will include
a free bonus CD featuring the 40-minute "Blue Room", a remix of
"Assassin", and a "Blue Room" remix by Frank DeWolfe (sp?) previously
unavailable anywhere.  Due in stores November 3rd.

Also out (soon? already?) is the PATTERNS AND TEXTURES video.  A limited 
edition of 1000 includes the soundtrack on 3 LPs.  No CD release is planned.


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: edd586ysft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: ACID SPECIAL
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:16:40 GMT


Tuesday Nite - Wednesday Morning
    13th           14th
   12:00pm        1:00am

One hour of totally nuts sounds
from detroit and amsterdam

Guest DJ: BERLIN

96.5fm (Melbourne)

Tune in and see what all the fuss
is about.


J. edd586ysft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jlacour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Lacour)
Subject: Re: Future Sound Of London: Accelerator
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:06:46 GMT

In article <&h31Hx-84a@atlantis.psu.edu> K6K@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Kin W Koo) writes:
>In <1992Oct13.212840.11578@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu writes:
>
>> 
>> The CD cover clearly says "Central Industrial"
>
>Well, my CD cover says "Central Industrail"

Mine says 'Industrial' also - I say children, what does it call mean?
From: rminor@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Reevaluation Counselling
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:08:18 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Does anybody have any comments on a process or movement called Reevaluation
Counselling or Reevaluation Co-counselling?  It's headquarters is in Seattle.
From: acsormd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: shyness help: The asset of shyness
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


		There was a frog who could jump great lengths... on dry
	land and catch the biggest flies for lunch. Once he saw a delicious
	fly on a lilly pad easily within his jumping distance. He knew he
	could make the jump, but he was scared of the water. All the thoughts
	of touching that water tore at his insides. He hated himself for
	the fear. Afterall, he IS a frog and frogs LIKE water. He could 
	have just as well been satisfied with a normal fly on land, and
	that would be just as familiar to him as talking to his closest 
	relative. The fact is he wanted to eat the lilly pad fly. He
	realized he had to get over his fear. When the time was right for
	him, he jumped, got a little wet, ate a big fly, and conquered his
	fear.
		The same frog, who could jump great lengths, had realized
	he could jump over water and also realized that he could catch
	flies and land. They may be smaller, but them he could eat more.
	He also realized that when any frog jumps to the lilly pads they
	are watched. He knew he could meet all the other frogs on that
	issue. But he also understood that the other frogs felt no shame
	in their misuse of their jumping skills. The other frogs would
	always abuse their legs without proper care. They jumped alright
	but wouldn't treat their skills with any care. Thus this frog knows
	that when he jumps he wants to jump when the time is appropriate
	and he does not want to abuse his abilities. He also knows that
	his legs will speak for themselves and be understood with himself
	having to fear anymore jumps like the one to the big lilly pad fly.

	Thus, shyness can be an asset. 
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: tyadav@athena.mit.edu (Tapesh Yadav)
Subject: Re: shyness help
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:22:01 GMT

=========================
>> smbailey@vax1.umkc.edu asks:
>>>Hi! Anyone got any suggestions on how to get over shyness?

>tyadav@athena.mit.edu (Tapesh Yadav) replies:
>> Just do it.

 rkennawa@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard Kennaway) comments:
>This, I'm afraid, is only a restatement of the problem, not a solution.

 Shyness is a complicated emotion. Each human has his or her own basic
 cause, fears, reasons which results in shyness. And, IMO, the best person
 that can help anyone in overcoming shyness is oneself. 

 How? you may ask. Well, the key is to realise that 
	"nothing really happens if you do what you are shy about;"
	"the world ain't going to crash;"
	"people may laugh, so what?"
	"if you don't try, you definitely fail; if you try, the worst
	 that can happen is that you fail - big deal. Remember, you
	 may not fail. And soon, with practice, you will not"
	"To learn to perform better, you have to know what is better;
	 To know what is better, you should know what is not better -
	 so Try, Make Mistakes, and then get on with what you learn."

 Stop worrying. Just do the thing. The consequences aren't that bad.
 
 In summary, just do it.

T.Y.
----
tyadav@athena.mit.edu

ps: No, I'm not shy. But some close friends of mine were/are.