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From: satan@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew James Meyer)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 21:49:33 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1ht41pINNb6i@transfer.stratus.com> savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:
>In article <JPT.92Dec30152510@telecaster.think.com>, jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor) writes:
>> In article <1hsrt9INN7tl@transfer.stratus.com> savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:
>
>> 
>>    Nobody pulls a cop over.  If you are stupid enough to follow him at his 
>>    speed, then don't cry injustice if you get a ticket!
>> 
>> Long ago when I took drivers ed in Mass, the state law read that police
>> vehicles could only exceed the speed limit if they were on "emergency
>> service".  
>
>And I ask again:  Who's going to pull him over and give
>him a ticket?
>-- 

The rule of thumb is go with the flow of traffic.  If you and everybody
around you is doing 65, no one is going to get pulled over by a state
cop who pulls up from behind you.  I have travelled in the flow of 
traffic as fast as 70mph and had a state cop pass by without a second look.
Of ocurse if this whole pack of cars rides through a radar trap, thats
another story, but then let them try and prove that the radar signal
they got bounced back to them was yours (conventional radar guns just 
pick up the stongest signal, there's no way to tell if its you unless you
are the only car driving by - of course there is talk of new laser radar
that can pick out individual vehicles, i don't have any info there)

have fun driving, and always keep one eye on the rear view




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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: ne.personals?
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:48:00 GMT
Followup-To: ne.general
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

It doesn't exist. If it did exist, also, someone might want to run a
local "anonymous" server.
  The deal with starting an Internet newsgroup is that you post a
request for discussion all over, wait till the flame wars die down,
then do a CFV (call for votes) and get someone to count them. There
are some details to be followed....the full procedure gets posted in
news.announce.newusers and news.answers under the heading "How to
Create a New Newsgroup."
  The kicker is, for international groups the yes's have to exceed the
no's by 100 votes.  Are the rules different for local groups?
I can't recall ever seeing a "how to create a 'ne' newsgroup"
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From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: PUBLISHERS CLEARING HOUSE
Date: 29 Dec 1992 08:51:59 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: jess@miracle.com's message of 28 Dec 92 20:13:09 GMT

jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg) writes:

   Just wondering, does anyone out there know how they determine who gets their
   mailings???  I never get anything from them, and I was wondering why.

They apparently use mailing lists of people who subscribe to magazines.
I never used to get their junk mail either, until my mother started giving
me gift subscriptions to magazines.  My mother used a nickname that I 
never use myself for the subscriptions, and that is how the sweepstakes
junk mail is being addressed to me.

-Sandra
From: rlcarr@animato.network23.com (Rich Carreiro)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Distribution: ne
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:25:12 EST
Organization: The Other Side of Life

In article <BZS.92Dec23131029@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
> 
> From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
> >I personally don't object to the subsidization of the T, for the purpose
> >of cutting down on automobile use, because I think that's an important
> >enough goal.  My objection is to also disallowing competing private service.
> 
> Well, I don't disagree, but I cannot resist snidely pointing out that
> they do have competing private service: They're called taxis.

Not quite.  The city caps the number of taxis and sets the rates.
If the cap on medallions was removed and cabs were free to set their
own rates (with the requirement that rates be the same for pickups in
any part of the city -- typical common carrier-ish requirement), then
I'd agree with you that taxis were a "competing private service."

When a govermental body sets the number of cabs and sets the single price
they can charge, it isn't close to being a "private service."

-- 
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From: savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:05:13 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: watts.sqa.stratus.com

In article <RG.92Dec25185605@nymph.msel.unh.edu>, rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez) writes:
> 
> I've seen at least statewide cops with apparently three different types of
> jurisdiction; can anyone shed some light on this to a country bumpkin who
> moved down from NH?

Well, let's see, there are local police, MDC police, state police,
registry police.  You don't see as many registry police
since I believe they are being slowly wittled out.  I've
never understood what the charter is exactly for Registry 
police.  I've seen them pull over people for traffic infractions
as well as for bad registration.  Don't ignore them though.
They can give you just as much trouble as the regular police.


> 
> Back to cops for a second: is the "enforced speed of the day" published in the
> Globe?  I'm getting annoyed about slowing down when I spot a cop just to then
> watch him pass everyone on the right at 75mph.  I've taken to following him at
> his speed.  Bad idea?  
> 
> "But really, your Honor, I was assuming that good Officer Donut was travelling
> at 55mph, and that my speedometer was broken..  after all, his lights were
> -not- on and I know that the local constabulary always tries to make a good
> impression.."

Nobody pulls a cop over.  If you are stupid enough to follow him at his 
speed, then don't cry injustice if you get a ticket!

> Finally, I heard that Beantown Harley pigs were using lidar guns in one of the
> downtown tunnels at 10pm the other night, and that there was a whole line of
> cars pulled over just past the end.. anyone else seen instances of these Evil
> and Unwholesome devices in use?
> 

First of all, what's a Beantown Harley pig and second what's
a lidar gun?


Rick
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec22154941@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec23.164843.9336@m5.harvard.edu>
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:10:29 GMT


From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
>I personally don't object to the subsidization of the T, for the purpose
>of cutting down on automobile use, because I think that's an important
>enough goal.  My objection is to also disallowing competing private service.

Well, I don't disagree, but I cannot resist snidely pointing out that
they do have competing private service: They're called taxis.

It just might be possible that w/o the subsidy, rights of way, etc
that taxis with their slightly different service are about all that
can really succeed anyhow (other than private cars which also compete,
and limo services to the airport etc.) But yes there's more to this.

It would be interesting to know what jitneys could do, we do run these
but only for charitable purposes (elderly, handicapped, school kids.)
Basically, replace a cab with a van with 8-12 seats but basically
supply taxi service (door to door), but to multiple destinations.

I think one could generate some reasonable complaints about
suppressing inexpensive door-to-door services when the T doesn't offer
this (handicapped, elderly etc., I don't think the few charitable
services are a good reason to make others illegal.)


-- 
        -Barry Shein

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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<BZS.92Dec15212827@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec17.153135.8027@dunsel.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:58:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.153135.8027@dunsel.harvard.edu> borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden) writes:

 > What this city should do is allow private bus lines to run at night,
 > and in my opinion, in the daytime as well.  Why should the MBTA have
 > a monopoly on mass transit?

I don't know what kind of charter the MBTA operates under, but I don't
agree that private bus lines should be necessarily permitted to operate
in the daytime. As a public utility, the T doubtlessly operates lines
and times which are profitable, which helps to subsidize the lines and
times which are not profitable. Allowing a private bus line to compete
during the day (I do agree that private bus lines at night would be
nice, but I doubt a private concern would have any chance of turning a
profit at it) would permit them to compete on the profitable lines and
times while not running the unprofitable lines, taking money away from
the T and therefore costing more tax-payer money to fund MBTA operation.
[There is a difference between privatization with governmental
stipulations about providing service to everybody, e.g. electrical power
and water companies, and allowing private companies to compete with
public utilities without being saddled with the same stipulations.]

In my opinion, it's more important to continue providing service to
(nearly) all geographical areas than it is to provide service in the
middle of the night. (Not because it would benefit me personally: I've
always lived near major public transportation arteries and my student
lifestyle means having the T run all night would be great. I think for
the most part, people have more control over when they travel than over
where to and where from they travel.)

--
Ping Huang (INTERNET: pshuang@athena.mit.edu), probably speaking for himself
From: James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: ne.personals?
Date: Sun,  3 Jan 93 14:40:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <105906@bu.edu> <BETSYS.93Jan2181406@ra.cs.umb.edu>

As a single New Englander, I would like to see a
ne.personals or ne.singles newsgroup created.
(You can count this as a yes vote :)

Jim Kowalczyk                    James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com
Andover, MA   
          
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec22160404@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec23.165518.9421@m5.harvard.edu>
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:47:45 GMT


>I grew up in northern NJ, a short ride from Manhattan (Englewood, for those
>who know the area - you might have driven through on I-95, just past the
>George Washington Bridge).  There is very convenient bus service from there
>to the Port Authority on 42nd St.  Unfortunately, the fare is $2.85 each way,
>and the subway fare in New York is $1.25 per ride, with no passes or discount
>rates.  This is compared to the $4 toll at the bridge.  There is hence a
>savings of more than $4 in driving, if you happen to be going to an area in
>which you can park for free.  The authorities there aren't doing a good job
>of encouraging car-owners to use the public transit system, and it's a shame.
>
>   - Dave Borden

I grew up in NYC, lemmee give you the inside scoop: they don't want
to encourage people coming from Joisey at all :-)

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:45:32 GMT

In article <BzGuD7.1HB@tegra.com> vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail) writes:
>
>
>For my last vacation of two weeks we tried something different.  We
>did a one-day one-way car rental at each end of the trip.  It was
>about $25 or $30 each way but for two people from NH that compares
>favorably with a limo and is much cheaper than parking.  Plus it is
>just about as convenient as your own car, maybe even easier at the
>airport end.
>

I've done this many times for business trips, especially on the way back.
Limo is nice for the trip to Logan, since it will pick me up whenever I ask
them to and I don't have to worry about driving.  It costs $35-$40 from
Maynard, and I believe this is for one call, no matter how many persons are
going.

I am sure the limo companies have dealt with this many times, but for the
return trip, I don't want to be hassled reminding them to pick me up at a
certain time, and keep calling them when the flight is delayed.  In this case
I always opt for a rental car, which is the most convenience.  It also help
to have the rental car office within a walking distance from my house.

But of course the most convenient way to go in and out of Logan is by the
DECchopper from Maynard right in front of my window.  But this is a different
story.


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From: obrien@hri.com (Jim Obrien)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: PUBLISHERS CLEARING HOUSE
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: obrien@bigbird.hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

I was wondering if there is some catch to this. I received
a packet in the mail, and it seems like I won $50.00. All
I have to do is mail in my notifications, and my winning
ticket, and the money is mine. This also will enter me into
the final drawing for 10 million. 

Whats the deal, or scam here?  I personally don't know anyone
who has won from this before.

                                             Jim
From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:59:12 GMT
Reply-To: borden@m5.harvard.edu
Distribution: ne
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

In article <zippy.725137164@berry.cs.brandeis.edu> zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts) writes:
>borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden) writes:
>
>>the unprofitable ones is that the unprofitable T lines will require the same
>>subsidy in any case - the only difference is whether that subsidy will come
>>from T fares from profitable lines or from general tax revenues.  I say, take
>>it from general tax revenues, if that proves to be necessary, and allow the
>
>And which particular special interest group do you plan to wrestle
>with to get this money?  City unions?  Education?  Old age pensioners?
>
>Or are you proposing a tax hike?

When you make a transition from an imperfect situation to a better one, there
are bound to issues and problems of a transitional nature.  This is inevitable,
and isn't a good enough reason in and of itself to avoid taking the steps.  I
consider a government legislated monopoly industry to be an imperfect situation
which ought to be remedied, simply by allowing private competition.  There's no
net increase in government spending by switching the source of revenue; either
you have the riders of popular T lines subsidizing the riders of unpopular T
lines or you have the taxpayers subsidizing the riders of unpopular T lines.
This is a valid issue to discuss, but I consider the illegalization of an
industry (in this case, private bus lines) to be a far more serious problem
than a few more cents on the tax bill.

Remember, if you pay more than the real cost of the trip when you ride the
Mass Ave. bus (if that's indeed the case), then that's state revenue that may
as well be a tax.  The state is taking your money by making other affordable
alternatives like competing bus lines illegal.

   - Dave Borden
     borden@m5.harvard.edu
From: carlton@scws8.harvard.edu (david carlton)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:58:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam
In-reply-to: tgross@cvbnet.prime.com's message of 21 Dec 92 19:32:15 GMT

In article <4474@cvbnetPrime.COM>, tgross@cvbnet.prime.com (Tom Gross) writes:

> I agree with Barry: blue laws are good.

Why?  As you say, they can be a pain in the but for consumers.

david carlton
carlton@husc.harvard.edu

       Here I am at the flea market but nobody is buying my urine
       sample bottles..
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: shogan@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Empress Sue)
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Reply-To: shogan@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:54:27 GMT

In article <RG.92Dec25185605@nymph.msel.unh.edu>, rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez) writes:
>I've seen at least statewide cops with apparently three different types of
>jurisdiction; can anyone shed some light on this to a country bumpkin who
>moved down from NH?
I have a cousin who works for the court system.  She told me that the 
registry cops are "real" cops.  They are the ones who give you both the 
written test to get your license, and the actual driving test.  These cops
work mostly at the registry...but can give out tickets if they catch 
you speeding.
 
> [stuff about packies deleted...]
>Back to cops for a second: is the "enforced speed of the day" published
>in the Globe?  I'm getting annoyed about slowing down when I spot a cop
>just to then watch him pass everyone on the right at 75mph.
>I've taken to following him at his speed.  Bad idea?  
>
>"But really, your Honor, I was assuming that good Officer Donut was travelling
>at 55mph, and that my speedometer was broken..  after all, his lights were
>-not- on and I know that the local constabulary always tries to make a good
>impression.."
Actually, they do mention it in passing on the am news CH5 during the 
"Smart Routes" report... ;).  They could probably still ticket you.  
(Using the old "Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right Ploy," of course.)  
Actually, my speedometer doesn't work...I own a Hyundai [pause for 
ObLaughter].  It broke 4 times and was fixed 3...I refused to go back 
and get it fixed again.  I figured that I could just pace myself with
everyone else...then a friend gifted me with a radar detector...and 
made me promise to give up vehicular weaponry.

>Finally, I heard that Beantown Harley pigs were using lidar guns in one of the
                                                       ^^^^^
>downtown tunnels at 10pm the other night, and that there was a whole line of
>cars pulled over just past the end.. anyone else seen instances of these Evil
>and Unwholesome devices in use?
>-Roger
>[artificial stuff deleted...amusing...I like it.]
>Roger Gonzalez - rg@msel.unh.edu     (508) 658-7800 (fax -2492)
>Denning Mobile Robotics, 21 Concord Street, Wilmington MA 01887
What's lidar?  Is this something I should worry about...something my 
detector can't pick up?!


-Sue (Banimpire)
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Xref: sparky ne.general:3600 alt.personals:25034
From: sklarew@bass.bu.edu (daniel sklarew)
Newsgroups: ne.general,alt.personals
Subject: ne.personals?
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:19:57 GMT
Reply-To: sklarew@bass.bu.edu (Dann)
Followup-To: ne.general
Organization: Boston University

Given the apparent divesity of people in New England who are presently
reading this newgroup, I wonder if we might get a ne.personals group
going for further bavardage, etc. 

Does  this  already  exist,   unbeknownst  to  me?  Anyone  out  there
electroncally aware enough to set this up for us?


					Thanks for the feedback,

					Dann
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From: jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:37:07 GMT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements) writes:
>In article <1ht5hdINNedc@bigboote.WPI.EDU>,
> satan@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew James Meyer) writes:
>
>>The rule of thumb is go with the flow of traffic.  If you and everybody
>>around you is doing 65, no one is going to get pulled over by a state
>>cop who pulls up from behind you.
>
>Well, that's usually true, but it isn't universal and it won't
>help you in court.  If you're going over the limit (and admit it,
>with whatever excuses tacked on) they can ticket you and you lose.
>
>I have exactly one speeding ticket on my record in the last 15
>years or so, and it happened when I was in the right-hand lane of
>Rt 2, going 57 in a 45 zone, going SLOWER than the traffic in the
>left lane.  Lord knows why the cop decided to ticket me.  Maybe I
>was just easier to catch than the rest of the traffic which was
>going faster. :-) Arguing as above did me no good.
>
>>* satan@wpi *
>
>Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com

Yes, the state police have set some very nasty speed traps out there.  I was
driving on that road one day, I was in the right hand lane, and passed by one
of these traps.  The cops were pulling -everyone- over who was in the left hand
lane!!  I was doing about the speedlimit, so these people were definitely
speeding.

Jessica Thornburg



The BORG are DEAD!!!!
Long live the Federation!!!
Xref: sparky ne.general:3636 misc.invest:15553
From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: ne.general,misc.invest
Subject: 401K--to rollover or not?
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:19:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: jti.C04qJy.40H
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA

I have a simple financial-planning question, brought on by some paperwork
sent me by a former employer:

Given that my new employer has no retirement plan, I can't roll over my
balance at a previous employer's 401K plan into a similar one.  It appears
I have two options:

	- Leave it where it is
	- Roll it into a personal IRA

As I understand it, I have more options as to what I can do with the money
(such as borrowing against it) if it stays in a 401K plan, though of course
I'd have a lot more control over investment options if I moved it.  If I
kept this money separate from other IRA accounts, could I later roll it
(or even some of the other accounts) into a new 401K?

Which option is wisest for now?  And is it possible to set up anything
remotely resembling a 401K while working for an employer that has
none?  (My income is above the ceilings for IRA deductability, and in
any case the limits on IRA contributions are IMHO too low.)

-rich