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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Date: 8 Nov 1992 00:42:09 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson) writes:

>I don't think it's arrogant to say that you never have made a mistake,
>because you don't have to make any it you are careful enough. 
                                    ~~

Ooops!  You just made a mistake.

keith

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From: d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson)
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:58:51 GMT

In article <MKNIP.92Nov6111146@blob.hut.fi> mknip@niksula.hut.fi (Mats Anders Knip) writes:

>As for the mayority of the Phenomena-members I won`t say anything,
>but I met Tip at a party about a year ago, and he was definitely
>one of the most spoilt, arrogant, selfish assholes I`ve ever met.

Well, Tip is the youngest kid in our crew and I have tried to make 
him understand that he better take it easy. We have talked about it 
a bit in the group and the coders have agreed that they won't use his
music if he keeps talking too much.   

>Get that motherfucker out of the charts! He ain't worth it.His music
>is as mainstream as it could ever be (listen to Bruno - now that's a
>musician!) and his poor ego really shone through in the scrolltexts
>in "crystal sym.".  Yachhh....

Tip is almost treated as the 3rd best musician by the others in the
group, because Mantronix has always been the most important part in
their co-operation. 

>Disclaimer : What I said above goes for that one person only. I have
>absolutely nothing against Phenomena as a group! I love Firefox' old
>tunes, and Enigma is just brilliant! I also had a chat with Azatoth
>and mr.Gurk at another party, and they were really cool dudes. So no
>flames for that please.
  
Thank you!

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> *                      department of Computer Science     *                  *
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From: idr@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Ian D Romanick)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: LAST TIME!!! PLEASE RESPOND!  (Hardwired demo)
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:13:40 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

Because of the way that they track load that demo, it won't work on
any processor other than a 7Mhz 68000 (due to the speed).  It will also
messup sometimes if you have real fast ram.
                                  - Ian Romanick
                                    Dancing Fool of Epsilon

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From: MSAASTAMOINE@finabo.abo.fi (Mika Saastamoinen Tkkk)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Anarchy's 3dDemo doesn't work!
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:31:08 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
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Hi!

Yesterday I downloaded a demo called 3DDemo (I think) by Anarchy from 
amiga.physik... It was on 2 .dms archives which unpacked without any problems,
BUT when I tried running it, it only got through the 1st part and crashed
when 'the middle part' was supposed to start!

I've got an A500/2.5M/2.04/PAL. I tried running the demo in this configuration
-Crash!- then I started lobotomizing my machine: I switched to 1.3 (I've got
a rom-switch) and -Crash!-. Finally I disabled the extra memory (another
switch :) and -Crash!-. I even tried unarchiving the demo on 2 new disks just
in case the 1st 2 were damaged or something: -Crash!-. Everytime the demo 
crashed at exactly the same place. Has this happened to anyone else? Has anyone
managed to get the demo to run to the end? If so, what was/is your machine's
configuration?

I'd really like to see the rest of this demo, 'cause the 1st part was very good,
especially the music!

-MiS-

      Turku School Of Economics And Business Administration, IS Science

         \       /  .____/           /  Mika Saastamoinen           // Amiga
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       \_.     /       /           /  20380  Turku, Finland      \X/ A M I G A 
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      /      /       /           /  mikasaas@polaris.cc.utu.fi  world it's the 
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From: d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson)
Subject: Re: Music and Code from Demos
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:11:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov08.010259.18859@DIALix.oz.au> shogun@DIALix.oz.au (Matthew Fitzgerald) writes:
>Mahoney & Kaktus are my heroes!!  God they make me laugh!
>
>
>Matt (Onodi/Epsilon)

Kaktus was glad to hear that! We study at the same place...

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From: clueless@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: x-specs demos?
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:51:45 GMT
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James Elkinton (bbs.zio@tsoft.sf-bay.org) wrote:
: bubblz@ecst.csuchico.edu (Boy Wonder) writes:
: > In article <1992Nov7.205350.642@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> clueless@bradley.edu (M
: > >: >That's how it works in NTSC land, I'm assuming it would be every 25th of 
: > >: >a second over in PAL.
: > >: 
: > >: Well the xspecs you need to watch the "3rd Dimension" is the ones made out
: > >: cardboard and plastic (red and green)
: > >: 
: > >: Carsten
: > >: 
: > >Well, then they're not x-specs.... They're just plain 3d glasses....
: > >
: > >
: > Well, excuse us for being beneath your vast and expansive understanding
: > of the theory of x-specs.  The people who responded to my original posting
: > all understood what I meant.  Is that not the primary function of
: > communication?  I don't correct people every time they end a sentence in
: > a preposition, because I still understand them.  I was aware of the
: > type of x-specs that you have described, but I also know that the little
: > "Plain 3-d glasses" of cardboard and plastic that are sitting on my desk
: > have the words "X-specs" printed on the side.
: > I am not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just saying that maybe you
: > should stop and count to ten next time before enthralling us all with your 
: > abundant wisdom.
: > -Jason
: Hmm....  Can you say "Shit's gonna hit the fan" ???  Sounds like the 
: company who made the X-Specs system (if they are still around) can slam 
: the company who decided to make those "X-Specs" paper/plastic things with 
: a bit of a lawsuit.  He obviously was right in the comment tho, and 
: almost definitely did not mean any arrogance or the like, since he 
: probably knows, as most of us would, that there is no way some company 
: would name their RED/GRN things X-Specs, even if it was an X-Rated film.  
: Obviously, such an assumption was wrong.  I wonder if the guys that 
: invented the real X-Specs are watching this newsgroup... :)  Welcome to 
: the 1990's - the Litigation Decade... (!)
	Sponsored by Bill Clinton
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:00:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.222433.7579@lth.se> d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson) writes:
>
>You americans don't know anything
>about eurodemos at all, so you better stop it.

Maybe this is just a too-obvious attempt at flame-bait...ne?

If one person has irritated you, try not to generalize so when you're
flaming him.  Or if you have something against Americans in general, I
still say it's safer to keep your opinions to yourself.

BTW, wouldn't it be a shame if we were allowed to enter music by modem
for the PartyII democomp? :)  There might be a few surprises...

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From: edg476z@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Xiphoid)
Subject: Looking for Majic 12 Members
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:44:56 GMT

O.k.  I am not sure if this is the right place to mail this, but if I am wrong Iam sure that I will be told in no time..

I am looking for Majic Twelve members not in Aust.  If you know any of them, or if you are a member then I could you please write to me before 30th of November as this is when my account expires...

Contact me at:

	edg476zsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
	edg476zcot@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
	xiphoid@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au      (This acc available 'til Feb)
	edg476z@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au	   (last option...)

Thankyou in advance...  and please keep the flames!

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From: bbs.zio@tsoft.sf-bay.org (James Elkinton)
Subject: Re: x-specs demos?
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:21:16 GMT

bubblz@ecst.csuchico.edu (Boy Wonder) writes:

> In article <1992Nov7.205350.642@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> clueless@bradley.edu (M
> >: >That's how it works in NTSC land, I'm assuming it would be every 25th of 
> >: >a second over in PAL.
> >: 
> >: Well the xspecs you need to watch the "3rd Dimension" is the ones made out
> >: cardboard and plastic (red and green)
> >: 
> >: Carsten
> >: 
> >Well, then they're not x-specs.... They're just plain 3d glasses....
> >
> >
> Well, excuse us for being beneath your vast and expansive understanding
> of the theory of x-specs.  The people who responded to my original posting
> all understood what I meant.  Is that not the primary function of
> communication?  I don't correct people every time they end a sentence in
> a preposition, because I still understand them.  I was aware of the
> type of x-specs that you have described, but I also know that the little
> "Plain 3-d glasses" of cardboard and plastic that are sitting on my desk
> have the words "X-specs" printed on the side.
> 
> I am not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just saying that maybe you
> should stop and count to ten next time before enthralling us all with your 
> abundant wisdom.
> 
> -Jason

Hmm....  Can you say "Shit's gonna hit the fan" ???  Sounds like the 
company who made the X-Specs system (if they are still around) can slam 
the company who decided to make those "X-Specs" paper/plastic things with 
a bit of a lawsuit.  He obviously was right in the comment tho, and 
almost definitely did not mean any arrogance or the like, since he 
probably knows, as most of us would, that there is no way some company 
would name their RED/GRN things X-Specs, even if it was an X-Rated film.  
Obviously, such an assumption was wrong.  I wonder if the guys that 
invented the real X-Specs are watching this newsgroup... :)  Welcome to 
the 1990's - the Litigation Decade... (!)
 

--
James Elkinton (bbs.zio@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
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From: umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Pistun)
Subject: gfx rippers
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:26:56 GMT

   I'm looking for a good GFX ripper.  Does anyone know of any sites
that carry them?  Please leave E-mail.  Thanks.

umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca


-- 
Brent E. Pistun                                       Computer Engineering
umpistun@CCU.UManitoba.CA                           University of Manitoba
From: reaper@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jason Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Anarchy's 3dDemo doesn't work!
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:18:11 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

3D does not like a 3000 at all. I degraded my machine until it fell on the
floor and begged me to stop, still no cookies. Damn it!!

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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:33:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.151927.21180@lth.se> d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson) writes:
>I'm SO SORRY that you americans out there didn't like my points in the
>beginning of this session. My idea was to start a discussion, not to 
>make you upset. 
("you americans," reminds me of Perot :)

Apology accepted.  But. . .

>I don't think it's arrogant to say that you never have made a mistake,
>because you don't have to make any it you are careful enough. 
                                    ^^ - NEVER?  Case in point. :)
   
>I have heard about a group called Enigma before and there exist people 
>who find it very amusing to point out that Enigma has made a demo 
>called Phenomena, which they never have. 

I've only heard Enigma in the same sentance as Phenomena.  Any idea
what they've done?  Maybe I've heard of Enigma as a band or something.

>****************************************************************
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--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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From: mknip@niksula.hut.fi (Mats Anders Knip)
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<Bx7BxE.A2t@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1992Nov5.154808.9289@lth.se>
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:11:46

>   Phenomena isn't full of arrogant egomaniacs. I hope and guess most
>   people know that. If you ever meet us you will understand. No, I
>   have NEVER made a mistake before! If I don't know what I'm talking
>   about I keep my mouth closed.

As for the mayority of the Phenomena-members I won`t say anything,
but I met Tip at a party about a year ago, and he was definitely
one of the most spoilt, arrogant, selfish assholes I`ve ever met.
At one time we left our room empty when we went for a snack, and when
we came back the little sucker was sitting in *our* room with a bunch
of teenies he was trying to impress on using *our* computers to show them
some of his music. Good for him I wasn't the person who spotted him,
I would have kicked the small bastards ass. When we asked him what
he was doing using our equipment without our permission he explained to
us who he was (as if we hadn't noticed already, his badge was size A4)
and thought that we'd accept that as an answer. During the rest of
the party he ran around talking big trying to get as many "new friends"
as possible to vote for his tune in the music-compo. Luckily, the
party-arrangers did all the voting, and when his tune (which wasn't really
any good) didn't make it into the top-5, he could be heard crying and
complaining that "somebody must have removed his disk from the compo,
the tunes that won weren't nearly as good as his!". They were. (our
musician got 3rd...8*)
Get that motherfucker out of the charts! He ain't worth it.His music
is as mainstream as it could ever be (listen to Bruno - now that's a
musician!) and his poor ego really shone through in the scrolltexts
in "crystal sym.".  Yachhh....

Disclaimer : What I said above goes for that one person only. I have
absolutely nothing against Phenomena as a group! I love Firefox' old
tunes, and Enigma is just brilliant! I also had a chat with Azatoth
and mr.Gurk at another party, and they were really cool dudes. So no
flames for that please.
  
--

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From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:55:33 GMT
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Nov5.222433.7579@lth.se>, d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson) writes:
>
>Just because you are a bit known in this fancy world of demos, people
>think that you are arrogant. No, I'm not one of those egomaniacs who
>thought they ruled the world in 1988. I left Fairlight almost three 
>years ago just because of that. You americans don't know anything 
>about eurodemos at all, so you better stop it. 

oooooooo.  or what?  ;)

I never claimed you were an egomaniac UNTIL you said you had never made a 
mistake.  EGOMANIAC symptom #1: infalible.  symptom #2: omnipitance

your 2 for 2 dude.

> 
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Jim
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From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: good ol' 64 demos
Summary: Aaron looks for old 64 demos on FTP
Keywords: commodore 64 demo
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:50:49 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

Hey all... all this talk about demos and stuff makes me kinda hungry for
the past. I've got a circa 1982 C64 setup and I am wondering where I
could find any demos for it on ftp. I am figuring on grabbing the demos
and decompressing them to executables on this PC then sending the
binary to the 64 over a 300 baud modem. (I'm patient...) Heck man, I've
even got the punter protocol for this PC. :-)

Any suggestions where to start? All this stuff is so interesting!

agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)
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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:40:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.044209.25592@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown) writes:
>I know of that has any American members is ours (gee...duh! :)  Actually,
>I heard that a group called Bloodsuckers used to have some...but I haven't
>seen anything from them at all (so they're probably dead).

We had a group called "Synaps" for a while, we never released anything.  Our
artist and musician got arrested for credit card fraud.  Lamers.

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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From: d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson)
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:50:27 GMT

In article <BxIC6x.Kz1@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> browder@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chip Browder) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.100108.20535@lth.se> d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson) writes:

>  Well, as we've already pointed out, they're aren't enough American demos
> to fill a top 10 chart! Therefore, I'd also suggest that only Americans
> should be voting. The idea is to INCREASE the number of demos from the
> states, and Canada.                       

OK, I also thought that...

> Not many will be interested if you cut
> off half of their team to be considered an American demo; for now anyway,
> American will have to be defined as somewhat-American :^\

You are right!

> Why would we limit ourselves to textfiles? I have nothing less in mind than
> a virtual clone of the EuroChart. I think the first few issues must be created
> by the groups/individuals who are most interested. 

Then all the code must be made by Non-Europeans only! I still think that it's
quite good to start it all up with only textfiles.

> I also think it will end up a NON-Euro Chart rather than an American Chart
> because hopefully (as seen), Canda and Australia want in on the action.

But we can't call it 'The NON-Euro Chart', or what? 

> You might want to have a separate top-ten American coders, musicians, and
> artists and most probably a top-ten American BBS's. There are a lot of
> American boards representing a lot of euro-groups. To bad there's not as
> many american demo-creators.

A top-ten BBS chart is not a good idea. I don't think we should be connected
to possible illegal activities. In Europe all these list and charts are the most
often used sources for the police when they are tracking illegal boards.

> (Chip Browder) browder@csugrad.cs.vt.edu - ramchip@megawatts.async.vt.edu

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