HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dang@well.sf.ca.us (Dan Goodin)
Subject: Fla. Theatre in Gainesville
Summary: I hear it bites
Keywords: Gainesvill, Florida Theatre
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:32:23 GMT


Hey all,

I called my brother if Gainesville to tell him the news that, after two and
a half years of my raving about how great Phish is in concert (he's only
recently come around to *sort* of liking their tapes) he will finally be
able to experience the real McCoy.  He warned me that the Florida Theatre is
run by some fairly cynical types who hate "hippy types."  He said when the
Radiators played there recently they weren't treated well by the staff.

Not that I want anybody to *expect* the staff to suck, but beware.

Anybody know if management is interested in recruiting volunteers to post
flyers?  I've got friends in Gainesville, Tampa and Miami who would be happy
to oblige.

Enjoy.

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: Lambsbread
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:20:13 GMT

Who is Lambsbread?
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bill Logan <wwlogan@colby.edu>
Subject: NYE
Reply-To: wwlogan@colby.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:33:40 GMT

I'm surprised at how few comments/reactions to the NYE show there have been.
I'm still excited about it, here are some of my thoughts:

In the first set during "I didn't know" Trey was really getting off on the 
YAY/BOO's, he was laughing a lot and seemed to get a big kick out of it. I
thought it was great.  Wilson was good, although the New Haven Wilson in 
my opinion, was incredible.  (Also I don't think anyone ever mentioned 
their vocal "little" ball Jam the second night--a bold effort)  Antelope
was of course intense.
Second set: During It's Ice (I really love that one) Fish played a cool 
"tick tock" for a while. (for some reason it made me look at my watch which
I thought was kinda funny) The Famous Mocking bird was a hoot, it looked like
a big chicken.  Also did any one else notice that before Trey sang the last
"Gliiidddee" in Glide he waited, (For a while as he's been doing) but just
as he took a deep breath and began to sing, he sucked in a little more air
and turned away as the audience started to sing without him.  Just as if 
to say (modestly) you can't touch this, then he finished the song.  How great.
Third set started off strong: Mike's Groove (no Hydrogen) but I thought the
arena was a little too bright for the otherwise-my favorite-strobe lights.
Harpua was a major Highlight.  I think Mike forgot to start the song and 
Trey said something about it too him.  Also did anyone catch the reference
to the "backstage ritual" that occurs on New Year's as well Trey started 
laughing and quickly continued.  I wonder.  
Some friends of mine near the front row said that the Dude of life was there,
sort of slam dancing and generally being and asshole yelling things like
"make Burlington proud" before he went on in the third set.  Anyone else
see this?  Still the Toro was great.  Well that's it for now,
-Bill

EGGPLANT :-(
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: phisher@aol.com
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: phisher@aol.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:13:14 GMT

From root Sat Jan  9 17:12:45 1993
From: phisher@aol.com
X-Mailer: America Online Mailer
To: phish@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu
Subject: HELP ME!!!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 17:12:45 EST

Once again, I am begging someone to put me out of my misery.  In my newspaper
here in Syracuse, it said Phish was playing in the Lanmark on Feb. 11. 
However, in the schedule posted on the net here, it says Phish will be in
Pennsylvania on the 11th.  No one here knows anything!  Shelly, do you know? 
Anybody, DO YOU KNOW?  Thanks in advance.

...and if your dog or cat ever dies, I'll buy you a ewe.

-Zach
From: miller@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Phil Miller)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:51:48 GMT
Subject: Re: PEOPLE magazine: PON "Worst of Song"
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish

In rec.music.phish, tas@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Tom Sprott) writes:

> I mean really.  "Control for smilers can't be bought/ The solar 
> garlic starts to rot/ Was it for this my life I sought?/ Maybe
> so and maybe not" just doesn't mean anything.

I think this means: People yearn to be at some state of contentness
and would like to be able to go to that state at will.  But the
natural mechanism of the human can't do this.  The author then
wonders why life is like this and if this situation is changeable.

Phil

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jeff Maggard 12-Jan-1993 0936 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Reserved Seating and Taping
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:07:15 GMT

From: liam@nic.near.net (L. Sean Kennedy)

|  The other possibility is they can sell "taper seats" at the box office
| only. I think this could work well, and doesn't require them managing it. 

It might work well, but it would be a hassle for us to have to deal with the
box offices, since most of them don't accept credit-card/phone orders.
Besides, it seems to me that most box offices know very little about any
given show -- for example: the Palace Theater in Albany didn't know that
taping was even allowed until 24 hours before the show, and that's because
the promoter was lame and didn't tell the venue what Phish's policy was...

I guess it could work if the band worked with the promoters, venues, and
ticket agencies to set aside seats for the soundboard and taping section.
Then we could just buy taper's tickets through the band.  How difficult
would it be for one person to deal with credit-card phone orders for 50-60
taper's tickets for every show?  It might be a good way to test out a Phish
Ticket Service...

re: taping Springfield
|  We were told to scam someone else's seat. I thought the whole reason
| for taping sections was to prevent scamming. Phish should take a look at 
| their policies... we were trying to keep out of the way of people enjoying
| the show, they encouraged getting in the way. 

This sucks.  It's just causes headaches for everyone.  Paul stopped allowing
people to patch into the board because it was a hassle for him to deal with.
And now it seems like he's now the arbitrator of taping policy (although I
noticed that in Springfield, he snuck away from the board just as we started
getting hassled about setting up)... ...lets hope they continue to allow
taping.  Hopefully they'll get a ticket service organized soon, so everybody
can be happy.


re: "Stealth"
| you'd buy any weapon system that was big, visible... ;-)

Sean, you mean to tell me that you _could_ see those mics???  8-)


- jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: petemple@eos.ncsu.edu
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: petemple@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:49:12 GMT

please add me to your mailing list
  address : petemple@eos.ncsu.edu

                  Thanx 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: twent@wam.umd.edu (Anthony J. Went)
Subject: NYE correct setlist, thoughts
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:26:22 GMT

There were a couple requests for the correct NYE list in the last digest.  At
the risk of wasting bandwidth, here it is (verified by the radio and at least
2 or 3 "experts")...

I			II			III
Buried Alive		Runaway Jim		Mike's Song ->
Poor Heart		It's Ice		Auld Lang Syne ->
Maze			Sparkle ->		Weekapaug Groove
Bouncing		Col. Forbin ->		Harpua ->
Rift			'hendge narration ->	Kung ->
Wilson			Famous Mockingbird	Harpua
Divided Sky		My Sweet One ->		Squirming Coil
Cavern			Beach Ball Jam		Diamond Girl (Dude of Life)
Foam			Stash			Llama
I Didn't Know (vac)	Glide			
Antelope		Good Times Bad Times
						Encores:
						  Carolina
						  Fire

Note that the Harpua story is actually Kung, a poem which Fishman wrote a few
years ago.  I'm not sure of the story behind it -- Shelly or David Steinberg
should be able to help here.  Very, very strange.

I was also amazed that the whole hall went quiet for Carolina.

A note:  I noticed the moron in the front who was moshing around, but I don't
think it was the Dude of Life.  As soon as GTBT started up, this guy with an
all access pass on his chest came up with a female companion and started
thrashing around, much to the people in front's dismay.  The pass looked like
one from the house and not the kind the band VIPs were wearing, but it really
made me mad to see it.  Matt Laurence and I thought we saw the Dude of Life
after the show (we don't actually know what he looks like, but he had the
same boots on and his build) and it wasn't the guy in front at the end of set
II.

The rebroadcast sounded AMAZING.  Good enough for a live album, definitely,
and by far better than any Phish tape I've heard.  The credits at the end
identified a recording truck from a different radio station that I didn't
know of...

Happy New Year!

Tony
-- 
Tony Went (twent@wam.umd.edu)                           University of Merryland
     "I'd like to hear my options so I can weigh them, what do you say?
      Five pounds, six pounds, seven pounds..."
					- Phish
From: v055qqdr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIM MCGRATH!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Need fall tour tapes (grovel, grovel)
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

hey now!
     i'm looking for good copies of cornell, binghamton, and toronto.
i have well over a 1000 + hrs of live stuff (includes 750 hrs dead, 400 + hrs
assorted, and 160 hrs Phish).   if anybody out there has some (or all) of
these, Please email me.   hopefully a trade can be set up.  thanks
                                        tim mcgrath
                                         v055qqdr@ubvms.bitnet 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jeff Maggard 12-Jan-1993 1802 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com>
Subject: re: We need Mail-order!
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:17:25 GMT

From: hamcquil@unix.amherst.edu (HARRY ALOYSIUS MCQUILLEN)
| And on the idea of a tapers section, I'm split. While it makes logical sense,
| it seems to me like it diffirentiates tapers from the rest of the human
| populace. 

Since when have tapers ever been part of the human populace???  8-)

The only problems I forsee with a taper's section and taper's ticets is a
loss of freedom and the high probabiliby that they won't offer enough
taper's tickets.  Benefits:  less hassles, nobody bouncin' on your deck, and
the lovely close-up view of Paul's butt!!! ;-)  If given the choice...  I'd
rather stick with the current 'non-enforced' taper's section and have the
freedom to choose to tape where I want, and deal with security and the crowd
myself.

- jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Douglas R. Maclin" <19053@brahms.udel.edu>
Subject: Phish in Newark!!
Reply-To: 19053@brahms.udel.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:27:19 GMT


I just can't contain myself any longer.  I can't believe that Newark, DE will
be graced with a performance by the finest, most jammin' band this side of the
universe!!  For those of you who don't know where Newark is (or forthose who don't where the hell Delaware is) I will clue you in.
Newark is the home of the University of Delaware.  It is located between Philly
and Baltimore (slightly more than a one hour drive either way), but is accessible by relatively short (approx. 2 hours) from New York and DC too.

The venue where Phish will play is the Bob Carpenter Center on campus.  This
facility is brand new, just opened in fall of '92.  The acoustics are supposed
to be good, because it was built for concerts, not just basketball.  I have 
not seen a show there, so I can't verify this.  There are 5000 seats in the 
place, but part of it can be closed off.  I don't know if they'll do this for
the Phish show or not.  I guess it depends on how many tickets are sold, so
I hope that a lot of you will show up! 

If anyone has any questions about Newark or the show, or needs directions,
please feel free to contact me.

---Doug
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: sound system
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:04:09 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1993Jan8.190012.15365@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com writes:
>I was wondering what other folks think of Phish's current sound system.
>After seeing them 3 times this fall (Albany, Springfield, and NYE) I'm
>convinced that they need a new/better sound system for playing the larger
>venues.

I think they are coping pretty well with the sudden shift to larger venues.
Trey IS using a new stack now, by the way (as of fall tour).  The first
phish show I saw where I was truly upset about the sound was Syracuse last
Spring.  Stonybrook was the next one, and I was pretty apprehensive about
New Years which I knew was a place more or less like Stonybrook
architechturally.  I personally thought the sound NYE was excellent in
view of the arena; I couldn't have been happier.  I don't know if the
speakers halfway back were theirs or not but I (being all the way at
the back on the first balcony level) thought they sounded great.  The vocals
were a little unclear on occasion but I understood everything unlike Syracuse.
I really was pleased and if they can carry what they did to other large
places I'll be psyched.

Springfield had unclear vocals also,  but I was right above the stage on the
side so I'm sure it must have been better in front.

Portchester and New Haven, which are roughly the same size as Springfield,
both have great sound.  I really think that for any of the theater-type
places, it has a lot more to do wiuth the acoustics than their sound
system.

>With all the discussions about people not wanting Phish to get 'huge' for
>fear of the ugly Dead-show-like scene that would inevitably follow, I never
>expected them to sacrifice the 'quality' of their music in the interest of
>bigger venues, more fans, and more money... 

Hardly their choice... it's a sign of the times.  They could continue to play
places like the flood zone, but of course only the first lucky 400 people
to send a money order to richmond would get in.  I'll take bigger arenas,
and worse sound if it's a choice between that and not seeing them at all.

>- jeff-praying-for-good-sound-at-Roseland!!!

Roseland doesn't have great sound, but it is very dependent on WHERE you are.
If you just get in front of the soundboard it sounds great.  See you there!
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: God <HUNT@edit.mndly.umn.edu>
Subject: PEOPLE MAGAZINE worst of song
Reply-To: HUNT@edit.mndly.umn.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:42:27 GMT

Here's the problem I have with both People's crack and the comments
by several netters r.e. the supposedly "nerdy" content of Phish's
lyrics. I pose two questions:

1. What would you rather they sang about? Instead of Golgi
Apparatuses (too "science dork"), how about male/female relations? Or
perhaps something political??? All I have to say to that is -- yuck!
90% of rock lyrics these days are tired rehashes of cliched themes.
Phish may not always be geniuses lyrically (though sometimes they
are), but at least they're utilizing some creativity and originality.

2. DOES HUMOR BELONG IN MUSIC? Frank Zappa asked that one, and
answered it himself with a rousing "yes!" Unfortunately, the majority
of ROCKFANS (read: over-serious poker faced yahoos with too much time
on their hands -- like me) take their rock and roll too damn
seriously. They don't want Zappa and his "yellow snow," or Phish and
their "guelah papyruses", they want Bob Dylan or John Lennon, or
NIRVANA singing about serious things. Lighten up, people! Humor is
fun. Phish's music is also humorous, at times, why not lyrics to
match?

Mr. Marshall and Mr. Anastasio may not be poetic geniuses along the
lines of, say, a Dylan or a Barrett...yet. But I'd say, lyrically,
they're the best thing going in rock. And with "RIFT" -- a concept
album, ferchrissake, you can't get much more "serious" than that --
they should take even more steps in the right direction. "techno-
nerd"? Hell no.

Love, Jon Hunt!Icculus Bless You All.
From: v055qqdr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIM MCGRATH!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Godstreet Wine winter schedule
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

just received the Godstreet Wine newsletter.  here are their upcoming
tour dates...............

January
  8  The rumrunner   (Geneva,NY)
  12 23 East Cabaret  (Phil,PA)
  13  8x10 Club  (Baltimore,MD)
  14  Penn State (P.K.S.)  
  15 T.B.A.
  16  P.K.S. Whittenburg College (Sprinfield,OH)
  18  Kilgore's  Cinn,OH)
  21  Biddy Mulligan's  (Chicago) 
  22  Washington U.  (St Louis,MO)
  23  T.B.A.  Kansas?
  28, 29, 30   The Inferno  (Steamboat Springs, CO)
February
  4, 5, 6  Fly Me to the Moon Saloon  (Telluride,co)
  8,9,10  The Outlaw (Crested Butte,Co)
  11  Fox Theater  (Boulder,Co)
  12,13,14  Joshua's  (Breckinridge,Co)
  15,16,17  The Jackalope  (Vail,CO)
  18,19,20  Old Town Ale House  (Ft. Collins,Co)
  24   BROADWAY JOE"S  BUFFALO,NY (YEAH!!!!!)
  25   Horizontal Boogie Bar (Rochester,NY)
  26   The Rumrunner  (Geneva,NY)
  27  Max's  (Ithaca,NY)
March
  3  Winecliff Hotel (Rhinecliff,NY)
  4  K.D. Churchills  (Burlington,Vt)
  5  Scarsdale H.S.  (Scarsdale,NY)  ****all ages****
  6  Wetlands Preserve  (NY,NY)

  I highly recommend seeing these guys.  they really jam!!!!  email me if ya 
 anymore info...............................later
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Rochester 2/9
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:13:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Rob King writes...
>I have not called the hotline lately but a phriend of mine in Rochester,NY
>say that there was an article in a newpaper saying that phish is playing
>there 2/9/93 @ Auditorium Center.  The Tickets go on sale 1/16/93 at
>ticketmaster.

...and Ticket Express outlets.  2/10/93 @ Smith Opera House in
Geneva, less than an hour away from Rochester.:-)

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 | John J. Wood                              jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |
 |			                     catphish@well.sf.ca.us       |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 | "Call Mr. Plow, that's the name, the name again is Mr. Plow...";-)     |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 12-Jan-1993 2329 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: how can i service/adjust my analog tape decks ?
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:35:16 GMT

i have 2 pretty good, 3 head, analog cassette decks (NAD 6300, Sony TC-K677-ES)
that i would like to keep in good operating condition; other than cleaning and
demagnetizing the heads, what else is there that should be periodically done to
service the decks?  two things that i can think of are pitch adjust and azimuth
adjust?  what else is there?  each deck has a fine tune bias adjust, so i
wouldn't think that adjusting the bias would matter too much; any other
thoughts?

now, on to the second part of my question; how do i go about servicing the
decks myself?  i'd rather not have to keep spending money taking them somewhere
to get calibrated/adjusted; i'm think i know what adjusts the azimuth on each
deck, but perhaps it's more complicated than a single screw; and i'd guess that
adjusting the pitch (i.e. tape speed) is simply turning a potentiometer, but
how do i find out what needs to be done?  is there a service manual for a
particular tape deck, much like there is a service manual for a car?  or do
technicians simply have a copy of the schematic, and from experience they know
what corresponds to what?  how would i go about getting whatever documentation
does exist?  would a manufacturer only give it to an authorized service shop? 
or perhaps a friendly shop would be willing to let me xerox it, but that might
not be likely, since my goal is to take away from potential service business

next part of my question; assuming that i can get some kind of documentation or
know-how telling me what to do, i need some kind of reference source as to what
is correct; i assume that there are some sort of test tapes for this purpose? 
could i get these at an audio store, or is this a specialty item that i'd have
to get from the manufacturer?  or might i have problems getting it because i'm
not an authorized service shop?

and, if i can actually manage to get the stage of making whatever adjustments
are necessary, what external hardware would be required?  would an oscilloscope
and a multimeter be sufficient?

does anybody have any experience with servicing their own decks?  my guess is
that if you know what you're doing, it's probably a fairly simple operation
(like turning a few screws), and it seems kind of silly to pay someone to do
something like that if i can figure out how to do it on my own

any advice would be greatly appreciated...

- rich
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rob King <kingro@cdi3.sch.ge.com>
Subject: Rochester 2/9
Reply-To: kingro@cdi3.sch.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:59:49 GMT

I have not called the hotline lately but a phriend of mine in Rochester,NY
say that there was an article in a newpaper saying that phish is playing
there 2/9/93 @ Auditorium Center.  The Tickets go on sale 1/16/93 at
ticketmaster.

Rob King
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Bill Rigby - I.T. & Electronics Departments" <FABR%NMUMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: FABR%NMUMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:27:44 GMT

SIGNOFF DIGESTIFIER
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: mgoldbrg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Goldberg)
Subject: Re: a few questions that I've been meaning to ask
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:17:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.205924.7698@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu writes
>	
>	and who is the person who spinned that annoying red thing around
>	at Springfield and NYE?
>
>	JaKeOb trapped in high school-
>


According to The Boston Globe, January 2, 1993:

	"Hardy P. Wallace Jr. of Beverly was 10 feet from the stage, grooving
to the band's improvisatory rock while he whirled a flashlight with a tiger's
head on it.  He and several college friends from North Carolina had already
seen Phish this week in New Haven and Springfield."


I think that is what you are talking about, but please note:  this is not a
flaming on my part, just a point of information.  I was at NYE and didn't have
a problem with it.  I mean, hey; it's New Year's.   :-)

2^3,
mark


-- 
* Mark L. Goldberg *********************************** "Hal, for God's sakes, *
* mgoldbrg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu ******************** would'ya hit the wipers?" *
* Department of Radio/Television/Film ********************** -David Letterman *
* Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois ******************************* *
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "David A. Craig" <dac@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu>
Subject: crescendo?
Reply-To: dac@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:37:21 GMT


ummm....correct me if i'm wrong, but "crescendo" i was always given to understand
by my teachers has to do with VOLUME, not with harmonic structure.  Does it
have a music-theoretical application in this domain as well?  Certainly  there
is relevance to the tension-release concept as well, for which i believe there
are a host of italian/latin (?) terms describing related but different concepts.

ok ... where are the experts?
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish