HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Migration of groups
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:41:11 GMT

"Andrew Luck" <p00078@psilink.com> publicly declared:
>Is there some method that is used to encourage posting in groups
>which evolve out of alt.*.  Two examples come to mind:
>
>alt.gopher ->->-> comp.infosystems.gopher
>
>alt.sys.sun ->->-> comp.sys.sun.*

Not really.  alt.bbs.waffle changed a few months back to
comp.bbs.waffle, and there's been some discussion about how to keep
people from posting to the alt group.  What it boils down to is, short
of simply not carrying the old group at your site there's nothing you
can do to encourage people not to post there.

There's also a small but vocal contingent who believe that Usenet is a
god-given right, and removing any group is an act of supreme
censorship.  (Never mind the fact that a new group has been created to
give the discussion even broader readership.)  I even saw one post
saying, essentially, "I'll post where I damn well want to!".  Also,
some sysadmins automagically feed the comp group into the alt group, so
it looks like the alt group has lots of traffic.  This only encourages
more people to post to alt.  ALSO, apparently some joker's set up a
daemon to automatically counter a net-wide remove group message in alt
with one to re-create the group!

My advice, just unsubscribe to the old group.  If enough people do this
it will eventually dry up and go away.  (Well, that's the theory.) If
you really want to discourage the alt group, delete references to it
from the "Newsgroups:" line whenever you follow-up to to a cross-posted
article.  Lastly, if you're a sysadmin get rid of the old group and
don't propogate it to downstream sites.

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You don't know how much you don't know until you       |      Steven King
know a lot.                                            |   Motorola Cellular
                                       (Nick Holland)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: wrong return address
Reply-To: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:32:34 GMT

murtaugh@math.orst.edu (Paul Murtaugh) writes:

)When I post from here (murtaugh@stat.orst.edu), replies to my post
)go to murtaugh@math.orst.edu, where I don't have an account.  So the
)replies bounce.  Is there a way for me to fix this, or do I have to
)bug my system administrator?  Thanks.

There are ways to get around this but try bugging your system
administrator to recompile mini-inews with the proper domain name.

Ofcourse I assume that your posting interface is through mini-inews.
If u are using *rn, try RTFM for REPLYTO environmental variable.

)-Paul

Sridhar.
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Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: .tar files and batch files
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: co
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:36:05 GMT

schwarte@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric schwartz) writes:
: Well, I got the source code for a cool program (Nethack 3.0) via anonymous ftp,
: and got through the uudecode and the uncompress stages, and now I'm left with
: 21 Src#.tar files that I don't know what to do with. Can anyone help? also,
: how can I write a UN*X batch file to take care of the resulting actions 
: (I got tired of typing uudecode Src1.tar.Z.uu, uudecode Src2.tar.Z.uu, etc.)
: 
Tar is similar to pkunzip. Check the man page for details, but here is
a quick command for expanding. Warning. This will usually unpack several
files. You may want to put it into a directory by itself so that you
can keep the files straight.

tar xvf {input filename}

x - extract
v - verbose
f - take i/p from {input filename}

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Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: cwyble@micom.com (Charlie Wyble (PROG))
Subject: Kellog corp. in Battle Creek, Mi
Followup-To: cwyble@micom.com
Organization: Micom Communications Corp., Simi Valley, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:10:36 GMT

My sister has just started work at the Kellog Corp. in Mich.  Does anyone
know if Kellog is on the Internet or at least has a mail feed ??

All information is appriciated.

cwyble@micom.com


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: GIFs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:47:08 GMT

bjhille@iastate.edu (Brian J Hille) writes:
: 	How do you post GIFs on a newsgroup and how do you download them from a newsgroup.  Also, how would you send a GIF via e-mail.  Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
: 

Check alt.binary.pictures or news.answers for the FAQ with the 
complete info... Quick overview:

Gif file --> mailable/postable stuff
1. Convert the file to ascii using uuencode (on Unix). Check
Man for details.

Posted message(s)
1. get all pieces of the gif. Copy them to a file in order.
edit the file to remove all headers. Leave in the Begin and End
lines. Delete ALL white space (tab, cr, space).

2. Run uudecode.
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Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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From: IO11412@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: QUESTION: UUENCODE-> How can I UUencode a file on a VM/SP IBM3270?
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:21:20 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

And how can I UUdecode it?
Help will be appreciated.
Dragomir
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez)
Subject: GIF NEWS
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:17:16 GMT

Can anyone tell me if the GIFNEWS is still around, I download a copy from 
an FTP site, and I loved it, do ya know how I could subscribe to it, or 
an FTP site that offers a collection of files from GIFNEWS ?, if ya know 
the site, please send the following information.

Site
DIR
Filename

I will be using a ftpmail, cuz I dont have access to telnet yet :), 
ThankS..

===============================================================
 Richard Velez                      Electronic Mail
 South Bronx, Homeboy!               Richard Velez - 1:278/712
 Born and Raise in New York City     Ricky@MindVox.Phantom.Com
===============================================================
From: cjlee@r-node.gts.org (Jack Lee)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Other Unix boards?
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:09:38 GMT
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)

Although this is a great Unix board, I'd like to know if there are other
free-of-charge Unix boards in Toronto.  E-mail reply would be nice.

Thanks 
-- 
                 _____
                |\___/|    cjlee@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
                |_____|    cjlee@r-node.pci.on.ca
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jtbell@hubcap.clemson.edu (Jon Bell)
Subject: Re: .hqx
Organization: Presbyterian College, Clinton SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:57:25 GMT

In article <81401@ut-emx.uucp> joewhite@ut-emx.uucp (Joe Carl White) writes:
>I am on a 4.3 BSD UNIX system, and I would like to know how to get .hqx files
>from the mainframe onto my Mac so that I can use them.  I connect with
>Zterm or Kermit, depending on where I am.

Simply download the .hqx file to your Mac as a TEXT file.  Then de-BinHex the
file using either (a) the "Convert FROM BinHex4..." command in the "Misc" 
menu of Compact Pro; (b) the "Decode" subcommand of the "BinHex4" command in
the "Translate" menu of Stuffit Lite (other versions of Stuffit have something
similar); (c) there's also a standalone application application which will
do the job, called "BinHex 4.0", I think.

Jon Bell / Physics & Comp. Sci. / Presbyterian College / Clinton SC USA


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: joshb@panix.com (Josh Blackman)
Subject: listserv/bitnet
Summary: distinguish listserv/bitnet/newsgroups
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:28:49 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: listserv bitnet

Could someone please distinguish for me what a listserv is.  I've
read across numerous listserv, bitnet and other apparent forums
that are of interest to me, but i don't understand how to access
them, nor how they work.  explain please how these differ from newsgroups
and how i can take advantage of these discussion groups, or whatever
they are.  thanks.  --josh




Josh Blackman                The day will come when life will not be
joshb@panix.com               a simple matter of bread and labor, nor
voice: 718 857-6072           of idleness either, but a work of art.
                                                          -Marinetti
-- 
Josh Blackman                The day will come when life will not be
joshb@panix.com               a simple matter of bread and labor, nor
voice: 718 857-6072           of idleness either, but a work of art.
                                                          -Marinetti
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: siperas@hsi.com (Steve Siperas)
Subject: Listserve
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:55:08 GMT

Hi

Would anyone know if there is a list of all Listserve sites with 
the subjects they maintain?

thanks 
steve

siperas@hsi.com
-- 
Steve Siperas                   siperas@hsi.com -OR- {yale,uunet}!hsi!siperas
3M Health Information Systems
Wallingford, Connecticut        " GO UCONN HUSKIES "
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Political "stock market" over Internet??
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:05:23 CDT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

There was a story of NPR this morning about a Internet (they used the word)
accessible "political stock" market in which one can by "shares" of candidates.  
The market is run out of University of Iowa, I think, but it could be another
university site in Iowa.

Can any one point me in the right direction.  Even an e-mail address for some
one in political science at UI or ISU would help.

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Radiation Biology Group
Medical College of Wisconsin
From: st1op@elroy.uh.edu (Aguilar, Amado E.)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Shareware
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:07:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: elroy.7OCT199210070838
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Is there is shareware news group on the internet and if there is what is the
name of it.
Thanks
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Is there a published list of news subscibers?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:59:07 GMT

matthew.mcbride@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (MATTHEW STEPHEN MCBRIDE) writes:
: 	I would like to know if it is possible to locate a published listing 
: of news subscribers in Utah.

Check out how to search for a person in Usenet. Then extrapolate how
to search this info for Place ie Utah. (This is in a FAQ in news.answers)

This will tell you everyone that POSTS to Usenet. There is no formal
list of lurkers.
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Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Rn: How can I change the my return adress (From:-field)?
Originator: erodrigu@tortel
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:18:59 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <1992Oct14.085400.16511@ugle.unit.no>, bgitv@TV32 (Baard Grimsmo) writes:
> My machine, where I have installed rn (myself) is named:
> TV32.termo.unit.no
> 
> The machine where I get my mail is named:
> termos.termo.unit.no
> 
> Therefore I want my return address to be Bard.Grimsmo@termo.unit.no
> (or bgitv@termo.unit.no)
> 
> Rn gives me the name bgitv@TV32
> This address is not known to the mail system!
> 
> I have intalled rn with:
> 1. domain name: termo.unit.no
> 2. site name: termo.unit.no (site name of return)
> 
> However rn always gives me the adress bgitv@TV32. Can I change this?
> Help will be much appreciated!

One method (maybe another is better?):
You can change a variable called NEWSHEADER in some .h file (i don't
remember what). This variable specify the contents of the header that
is displayed when you edit the article. There you add the From: line,
with the appropiate contents (something like %L (%n) or something like 
that, that is documented in the same file, some lines before the lines
you must change).
  Maybe, you still need to change the file Pnews.header to have the
apropiate return address in the From: (specially if you want that all
your users appears posting with some address, even if they post from
workstation). Contact me if you have problems, I have not the sources
here, but i can ftp it, look it and remember what exactly i did.

edo...

Eduardo Rodriguez S        - --- - --- - --- -    erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl
Dpto de Ciencias de la Computacion  - --- -    ...!uunet!uchdcc!erodrigu
Universidad de Chile   --- - --- - ---   erodrigu%uchdcc@uchcecvm.BITNET
- --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: "Andrew Luck" <p00078@psilink.com>
Subject: Migration of groups
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:40:52 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

I know this might be a FAQ, never the less, I will ask....

Is there some method that is used to encourage posting in groups
which evolve out of alt.*.  Two examples come to mind:

alt.gopher ->->-> comp.infosystems.gopher

alt.sys.sun ->->-> comp.sys.sun.*

I would think after a while all the activity on the alt groups would
dry up, but posting and cross posting continues.  Do the folks who
requested discussion, called for votes, etc., post back to the alt.group
on a regular basis that "Hey, there's a new group that you could/should
be using" ?

Just thought I'd ask... It's tough enough keeping up with the news,
but having to check extra places for the stray cats make it more time
consuming!
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: matthew.mcbride@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (MATTHEW STEPHEN MCBRIDE)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Is there a published list of news subscibers?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:52:08 GMT
Organization: University of Utah


	I would like to know if it is possible to locate a published listing 
of news subscribers in Utah.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Announcement for Newusers
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:21:05 GMT

hramchan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Harish Ramchandani) publicly declared:
>Presidential Election date is November 3, Tuesday.  Get yourselves
>registered to vote.  Technically  you can register till te last
>day. But you may not get the acknowledgement for the registration
>in time. Therefore register early. Call your County Election Commission 
>for more information.
>
>This is a public service message from  Creighton University, College of
>Business Administration

Better try setting your distribution to "local".  This message, with
its blank distribution line, got broadcast all over the world.  Here in
Illinois the deadline for voter registration is 1 month before the
election; it's already past that date.  And I doubt readers in the UK
or in Australia are eligible to vote in the US elections anyway!  :-)

-- 
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You don't know how much you don't know until you       |      Steven King
know a lot.                                            |   Motorola Cellular
                                       (Nick Holland)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
From: eravin@panix.com (Ed Ravin)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Mail from Internet to Prodigy?
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:11:58 GMT
Organization: Not Just Another Pretty Face

In article <1992Oct07.183001.2353@sco.COM> erics@sco.COM (eric smith) writes:
[regarding Prodiy email connectivity to the Internet...]
>Interesting reversal of position on Prodigy's part. A while back they
>were saying there would never be an Internet gateway; it was not possible
>because their internal communications were not in ascii format (!).
>I wonder how it suddenly became possible?

All of Prodigy's existing email system has used ASCII since the start of
the service in 1988.  The obstacle was that Prodigy messages use a 40 or 64
column, screen oriented interface (similiar to a 3270 terminal) with
limitations on the size of messages -- Internet/Usenet mail is a stream of
ASCII with no particular restraints on column width or text length, except for
what is enforced by a particular gateway.  Another problem was that until now,
the machines used to provide the Prodigy service could not be easily attached
to the Internet (they didn't speak the right protocols).

I'm beginning to think that Internet connectivity is sort of a rite of
passage for an online service -- though it's not something that the big
ones have done immediately, as they mature, they all realize that it is
necessary if they want to become part of the larger online community.
GEnie and America Online only hooked to the Internet in the last year
or so --  remember, as a videotext service Prodigy is only a mere 4 years
old.

Disclaimer: I work for Prodigy as a telecommunications programmer.  These
writings are my opinions, not theirs.
-- 
Ed Ravin            | I like to think (it has to be!) of a cybernetic ecology
eravin@panix.com    | where we are free of our labors and joined back to nature
philabs!trintex!elr | returned to our mammal brothers and sisters,
+1 914 993 4737     | and all watched over by machines of loving grace
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: UUENCODE-> How can I UUencode a file on a VM/SP IBM3270?
Originator: erodrigu@tortel
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 00:05:07 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <92282.152120IO11412@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO11412@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
> And how can I UUdecode it?
> Help will be appreciated.
> Dragomir

Mmmmm.. for VM/CMS there is an utility called acturil, try
archie, i don't know if it can be used in VM/SP (but I think
that yes)

edo...

Eduardo Rodriguez S        - --- - --- - --- -    erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl
Dpto de Ciencias de la Computacion  - --- -    ...!uunet!uchdcc!erodrigu
Universidad de Chile   --- - --- - ---   erodrigu%uchdcc@uchcecvm.BITNET
- --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - --- - ---
From: harvey@bcsaic.boeing.com (Donn Harvey)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: looking for RF newsgroup
Keywords: RF
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:24:28 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

Can anyone point me to a newsgroup that discusses RF and/or microwave
engineering topics? How about electromagnetics/antenna engineering?

Thanks in Advance

Donn Harvey
harvey@bcsaic.boeing.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:51:22 GMT

ujeffo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeffrey Behl) writes:
: Ok, first post, so if all is not well, sorry.
: 
: Anyways, my question is about chatting to others on other computers.  I have a friend who attends UC San Diego while I attend UC Santa Barbara.  Wouls it be possible for us to somehow chat to one another?  We know how to send email through
: elm, but that is about all.  And we are both novices to Unix/internet/usenet/whatever net (I do not know the difference) so if I am posting the wrong question in that wrong place, I apologize.  
: 
: ps if anyone knows where I can get some general documentation on internet/usenet/telnet kind of stuff, please tell me where (I know how to use ftp Anonymous).
: bye!
: 

First, please put <cr> at the end of each line. Not all systems
automatically do this.

Second, there are 2 programs talk and ntalk which can chat. To get
some info try man talk. I think that you may need to check archie
for ntalk.
--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
From: ah190@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stuart Pearl)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: What Happened to War.Civil.Usa?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 12:48:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I think there used to be an American Civil War newsgroup under the ALT.
group - this is according to a recent list of the usenet newsgroups.

It does not appear to be there anymore and I was wondering if it was
moved.  Any hints?  Thanks in advance.

-stu
-- 
                   ---===<<< Stuart Pearl >>>===---
                           Cleveland, Ohio
                      ah190@cleveland.freenet.edu
                         --------------------
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: How do I retrieve a file?
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:30:16 GMT

In article <1avjo9INNfol@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cd930@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zihao Michael Gao) writes:

   Hi, there.  Does anyone there know how to retrieve a file in newsgroups into hi
   his own computer?  Thanks in advance for help.

I know how to do it on my computer.  I don't know how to do it on yours.
At least until you tell me what kind of system you're using:
hardware, operating system and version, newsreader and version.

But I see now that you're posting from Freenet.  Ask your local
support staff or post to freenet.newusers.questions, since somebody
there should understand your system without needing psi talents.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
From: paul.bergera@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (PAUL T. BERGERA)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: quante persone leggono il news?
Keywords: news
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:51:55 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

It seems that everybody is in a hurry these days.  How many people actually 
take time to read news?
From: janice@csa.bu.edu (janice yu)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:41:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
  Hi,  my name is Janice Y. Yu.  I shall tell alittle about myself.  I