HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Fentanyl and derivatives
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:12:59 GMT

In article <eesnyder.726429459@beagle> eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eri
 E. Snyder) writes:
>aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
>
>> Sorry. I looked at my Merck and *sheesh!*. I was close I suppose, but 

>>guess that's not enough, now is it?
>
>Negative. 
>
>You might say MPTP is *close* to alpha-prodine but you wouldn't go stick
ng
>it in your arm, now would you?
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>TTGATTGCTAAACACTGGGCGGCGAATCAGGGTTGGGATCTGAACAAAGACGGTCAGATTCAGTTCGTACTG
TG
>Eric E. Snyder                            
>Department of MCD Biology              ...making feet for childrens' sho
s.
>University of Colorado, Boulder   
>Boulder, Colorado 80309-0347
>LeuIleAlaLysHisTrpAlaAlaAsnGlnGlyTrpAspLeuAsnLysAspGlyGlnIleGlnPheValLeu
eu
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 ACtually, the 2nd structure that I posted was only off by the N-propionyl
group that I should have had instead of the N-methyl that I put on.
 Not nearly the structuarl difference between Prodine and MPTP. But you'll
never hear me argue that precision isn't important. I only regret that I
posted without looking...

St. Anthony ("Look ma! No hands!") 

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          / N \   O                   Mi vsi smo krizhani,
         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH             mesarskega ceha...
BZ        \ / /      Ph                            aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:39:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.130252.46058@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> lerner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.  Supposedly,
>it can smell just about anything, no matter how much you cover it up.
>I seriously doubt this.  I have heard that coffee will hide the smell,
>and I am wondering if this is true.  Also, what else will hide things
>from the dog?
>
>By the way, did you know that killing a drug dog is punnishable in the
>same way as killing a police officer (I mean it has the same
>penalties, but my editor screws up if I back up too much )?



if i knew that my school was getting a drug dog, i'd carry a lot of
ground hot pepper, itching powder and other annoying substances, and
sprinkle it EVERYWHERE!   give it out to ANYBODY that looks like they
might have a chance at being singled out for sniffing.  give that dog
a run for its money.
From: wce@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Bill Eichman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD on Dragnet
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 02:19:55 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

am49+@andrew.cmu.edu (Aaron R. Miller) writes:

> On 04-Jan-93 in LSD on Dragnet               
> user Mike Swift@microsoft.com writes:
> >Did anyone catch Dragnet on Nickelodeon last night?  They were running a
> >top 10 classic sitcom countdown, and Dragnet was number 4.  The particular
> >episode was they're famous LSD episode, and starts off in the months before
> >LSD was illegalized, with Friday picking up kids who'd lost they're minds
> 
> that reminds me of the Marijuana Dragnet episode where the man and his
> wife ended up getting baked while their child drowned in the tub just as
> joe and ?(harry morgan) made the bust. they also had an informative

In my videotape library i have a copy of another Dragnet episode that 
centers around a long argument between a "Tim Leary" parody character and 
good old joe friday and sidekick. The "Tim Leary" character hisses 
spitefully about how the 'turned on kids' are going to "take over" the 
society, and Joe Friday gives out with the classic line "Marijuana is the 
match, heroin is the fuse, and LSD is the bomb...".

It's truly hilarious, and truly frightening. 

Naturally the Tim Leary character gets busted for selling LSD and Grass 
to minors in the end....

Later, Bill
From: ba@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (blue adept)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: freon
Date: 5 Jan 1993 03:37:21 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


all this talk about Nitrous Oxide brings a question to mind.  A friend
of mine was telling me <after many whippits> that he has achived the same
affects, if not stronger, by inhaling freon from ye old heat pump.  Has
anyone done this.  I am sure it is bad for you, but HOW bad?  does anyone
have any info or experience in this area?      

reply via e-mail if you want.

ba@gnu.ai.mit.edu
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Date: 11 Jan 1993 08:29:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



What ==is== the difference between the 60s acid generation
and the younger group.
Seems discussions here about lsd have a lot to do with 
refraining from hurting oneself or acting completely nuts.

Some reading in the 60s literature would be, at the very
least, recommended.
The point is that a true teacher will impart some wisdom,
carry a vision, and such a teaching experience should be
regarded with respect and some seriousness, otherwise
the experience itself merges with any ole high....
I am beginning to wonder, is the intellect less than 30
years ago or perhaps (I think more likely), the 60s were
more deeply immersed in a moral dilemma, the war in 
vietnam, and perhaps without that insistent pressure,
to decide to go to war or not, all the rest glides back
into a couch potato society, human nature needs prodding
to think deeply, before and after lsd.

-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
From: jyrkis@phoenix.oulu.fi.oulu.fi (Jyrki Sarkkinen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Media Magic? (was: Trip Video source)
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:53:31 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
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        The following message was written by honig@ruffles.ICS.UCI.EDU
        (David Honig) and posted to alt.drugs 23rd Nov 92 02:22:51 GMT.
        The subject was "Trip Video source".
 
> A company called "Media Magic" PO Box 598 Nicasio, CA. 94946 sells diverse
> videos (including a ludicrous amount of fractal stuff), posters, etc that
> perhaps some readers of this fine newsgroup might enjoy.
> 
> #include <disclaimer.h>
 
        Does anyone have more information on that company? I'm 
        missing fax or phone number. Have you ordered something?
        Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: add
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:14:29 GMT

In article <a7RqwB8w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
>Strychnine is also the poison of choice amongst southern snake handling 
>cults.  These people handles snakes because of an interperetation of a 
>verse in the 16th chapter of Mark.  The same chapter speaks of Xians 
>surviving poisons because of their faith, and at some snake handling 
>meetings, some participants indulge in "Salvation Cocktails".
>  Strychnine is the traditional content of the cocktail.  Someplace 
>around here in a box of clippings I have at least two reports of deaths 
>from worshippers who overdid it.

For the benefit of those who cannot find the appropriate passage in Mark in
their Bible(s), the following is from my copy of the NRSV.  First the
footnote [my comments are in brackets]:

	Some of the most ancient authorities bring the book [of Mark]
	to a close at the end of verse 8 [of chapter 16].  One authority
	concludes the book with the shorter ending; others include the
	shorter ending and then continue with verses 9-20.  In most
	authorities verses 9-20 follow immediately after verse 8, though in
	some of these authorities the passage is marked as being doubtful.

And now the passage, Mark 16.14-18:

	Later he [Jesus] appeared to the eleven themselves as they were
	sitting at the table; and he upbraided them for their lack of
	faith and stubbornness, because they had not believed those who
	saw him after he had risen.  And he said to them, "Go into all the
	world and proclaim the good news to the whole creation.  The one
	who believes and is baptized will be saved; but the one who does
	not believe will be condemned.  And these signs will accompany
	those who believe: by using my name they will cast out demons;
	they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes in their
	hands, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them;
	they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover."


-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Living in Hollywood is like living in a bowl of granola.  What ain't
fruits and nuts is flakes.
From: treefreeeco@igc.apc.org (Paul Stanford)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dutch seed banks
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:26:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1993Jan5.202326.20328@fuug.fi:-299585818:cdp:1301300234:000:80
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!treefreeeco    Jan  6 13:26:00 1993


Yes, people are caught and incarcerated for ordering Dutch hemp seed. Watch it!
From: bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William E. White )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:41:42 GMT
Organization: Ohio University, Computer Science Department

In article <1993Jan12.182749.21086@netcom.com> lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay) writes:
>I've never known a man who didn't get massively horny from taking
>nitrous.  I've also never known a woman who did (which, alas, includes
>myself.)
>Why is that?

Just a WAG (wild-assed guess) here -- erection of the penis is mediated at
some point through nitrogen oxides; this may be a physiological reaction.
On the other hand, I think it was nitric oxide (NO) not nitrous (N2O) and
I don't think you get the former from the latter in vivo.

>Laura Lemay                              lemay@netcom.com


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dlb@sunloaf.dazixco.ingr.com
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Reply-To: dlb@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix - An Intergraph Company
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:27:47 GMT

In article <1isvt7INNen0@tamsun.tamu.edu>, ron@cs.tamu.edu (Ron J Theriault) writes:
|> 
|> Andrew Weil in his book "The Marriage of the Sun & Moon", has a
|> few interesting stories about doing things while high on LSD,
|> such as running over sharp stones with bare feet without feeling
|> any pain, (or suffering any injury).  It's believable that your
|> friend could get away with sticking her hand in boiling water 
|> without harm.  
|>
|> I doubt very much she could fly, or walk in front of cars however.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Try reading Carlos Castaneda.  The first books are incomparable.

dave
From: kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:27:58 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk (Andy Settle) writes:

>That reminds me - didn't Aldous Huxley take LSD-25 with the aid of an
>eye dropper on his death bed, could be another urban myth :-(

I'm not sure of the eye dropper part of it....but I have read or
possibly heard that while on his death bed he had his wife administer
large doses of LSD to him every hour until he died.


Xref: sparky alt.drugs:20848 alt.magick:6746 alt.pagan:15257 talk.abortion:55250
From: dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: looking for information on abortifacents
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:19:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpdstma.ptp.hp.com

In article <1993Jan9.111420.20467@fuug.fi>, an4729@anon.penet.fi writes:
|> 
|> Keep in mind that there is NO "safe" method of abortion known to mankind.
|> No, *not* *one*.

Absolutely true.

|> They *all* can (and frequently do) have life-threatening
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> complications for the would-have-been mother.

Absolutely, totally false. Abortion by various procedures (the most common
being D&C) does NOT _frequently_ have life-threatening complications. Such
complications are extremely rare; so much so, that giving birth has a
higher mortality rate for the pregnant woman than a first trimester
abortion. Please get your facts straight, and try not let your emotions
generate facts that do not exist.

-- 
Dave Waller
Hewlett-Packard Co.
Workstation Systems Division
Sunnyvale Channel Partner Consulting
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: LSD and alcoholics posting on usenet
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:45:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.202327.25803@prime.mdata.fi>, jjj@mits (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:
>During the last 12 months drug related news have taken more newspaper
>space than never before here in Finland.

Yes, since the legislation change has been delayed from the scheduled
Spring -92 to this time (the next scheduled processing of it is in
February -93) the media campaign has also been long.

Kannabisyhdistys (which advocates reasonable drug laws and
legalization of hemp for private use) has been working also, they sent
a bunch of copies of their publication "Hamppu" (Hemp) to the
parliament.  One result of this was that a representative asked
whether there's anything that can be done to prohibit the publication.

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Why Marines like LSD...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:18:58 GMT

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: 
: >malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
: >: For that matter, the idea of anyone willing to commit to the military 
: >: doing LSD sorta scares me.
: 
: >Why does it scare you? Do you believe that the drug automatically makes you
: >a sadistic killer or some sort of maniac?
: 
: No, I think that I believe that LSD has a great capacity for people to 
: make decisions and judgements based on impaired logic - to act and react 
: without being fully responsible or even comprehending of your actions.
: I find value in it's ability to offer one insights but I'm appalled by
: it's abundant recreational use - I think it's a more powerful tool or
: door than most people here seem to give it credit for, and the idea of
: doing it just for kicks and fun is sacry to me in that I don't think a
: lot of folks have the self-confidence and strength to not be at some
: risk of fucking their lives up in stupidity. I think LSD should be used
: not to look at pretty pictures but to look at yourself. 

I think you would be surprised at the percentage of people who post here
who have used lsd, and other drugs. Does the reasoning ability of most
of them seem to be impaired? The only non-reasoning postings I have seen
seem to be from the anti-drug crowd.

Should a person go jogging, only to "look at yourself?" After all, it also
give a person a drug high. The same can be said for any enjoyable activity.

: I buy into Dr. Lilly's ideas on imprinting. I think you can come out of a
: trip with thoughts, goals, patterns imprinted either consciously or un-
: consciously that may strongly effect your life - and this newly imprinted
: code might to have been writing with a fully functional compiler - your
: brain might have misfired a bit and jumped past some logic that might
: be relevant to your deciding, for example, to tune in and drop out and
: move to Hawaii because the weather is nice there. I shouldn't imply 
: that these are Lilly's ideas, these are my interpretations. 

Many do not buy Lilly's simplification of the effect of drugs on the
brain.

Bill

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:53:20 GMT

nimrod@nforest.pulp.nullnet.fi (Jukka Airaksinen) writes:

>        Speaking about drug dogs. I wonder would it be safe to
>        send LSD, ecstacy or anything identical by mail. In other
>        words: do the drug dogs smell also this kind of stuff ?

   I am under the impression that drug dogs are trained to react to specific
drugs. I doubt that Finnish drug dogs are trained to smell MDMA or even LSD
- even if they were able to - due to their scarcity on the illegal market.
I'm sure someone will start chanting the old mantras about LSD being
colourless, odourless and tasteless, but I wouldn't count on that. Nothing
is completely odourless and dogs have a much more evolved sense of smell
than humans. That's why they're used in the first place.
   In a nutshell: at least pack them air-tight, especially LSD as it is so
sensitive to oxidisers and light.

   By the way, I recall reading somewhere that drug dogs can smell a drug
hidden in an air-tight container in a full gasoline tank. This is a little
hard to believe.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
From: merriam@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Myrrh
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:46:34 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Who knows anything about Myrrh.  I've heard that it's psychoacitve.
True?

Please e-mail me at merriam@ac.dal.ca  as I don't check the newsgroup
that often.

Thanks, Mike.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gally@barsoom.network.com (Jerry Gally)
Subject: Re: drugs/danger, what's the corollary?
Originator: gally@barsoom
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:32:05 GMT

Joe Moody writes:
>I am against prohibition and understand the harm being done by the war on
>drugs.
>But we must confront and acknowledge the "can of worms" we'd be opening by
>indescriminate legalization of life-altering chemicals
>for anyone-the-hell that feels doing them.

There are a wide variety of "life-altering chemicals" readiliy available
(legally) for any irresponsible idiot to abuse NO MATTER WHAT YOU OUTLAW !!!

"Prohibition" laws simply exchange liberty for a false sense of security.

As one of this country's founders observed (Ben Franlin?) <paraphrased>
"Anyone who would trade liberty for security deserves neither"
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pjm9806@ucs.usl.edu (Mejia Pablo J)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:51:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.063934.759@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.130252.46058@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> lerner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.  Supposedly,
>>it can smell just about anything, no matter how much you cover it up.
>
>if i knew that my school was getting a drug dog, i'd carry a lot of
>ground hot pepper, itching powder and other annoying substances, and
>sprinkle it EVERYWHERE!   give it out to ANYBODY that looks like they
>might have a chance at being singled out for sniffing.  give that dog
>a run for its money.
>

   When I was in the army in Germany, one of our favorite tricks was to
   take a small piece of hash, dissolve it in alcohol, then use a cotton
   ball to wipe this solution in strategic places (the commanding officers
   office door, etc).  

   The rumor was that if a dog gives too many false alerts, it is retired
   from service.  This can get DAMMED expensive for the police agency
   involved (unreasonable search lawsuits, ect...)

   I don't know if this will work with other substances, but it sure was
   fun to watch when we did it.


                         Allen  (not Pablo)
From: alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Alex Alexander)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: looking for Timothy Leary
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:49:23 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies

In article <93007.001207IO92404@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO92404@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
(Jason Chase) wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine has is doing research on a VR project and would like to
> get in contact with Dr. Leary.  Any info regarding his email address
> or location would be appreciated.
> 

He's on CompuServe. Use the FIND feature in the user list. I found him once
about a year ago.

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From: anarch@Apple.COM (The Anarch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:10:47 GMT
Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell

In article <726785207snz@spliff.demon.co.uk> journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk writes:
>...didn't Aldous Huxley take LSD-25 with the aid of an
>eye dropper on his death bed, could be another urban myth :-(

    IM injection, from every report I've seen.

-- 
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D I S C L A I M E R :   E V E R Y T H I N G   I   W R I T E   I S   F A L S E
From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Drug Policy Foundation
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:28:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>Try the Drug Policy Foundation:
>
>4801 Massachusetts Ave.,N.W Suite 400
>Washington,D.C 20016-2087
>
>For a modest sum you can subscibe with them, and receive 
>newsletters and lists of a wide range of books on the WOSD 
>which they sell.
 
How come they [a] don't seem to have an Internet address yet, 
and [b] don't have any mailing lists set up yet?
 
Seems this organization would be hard pressed to find another 
network like the Internet to disseminate information over!
-- 
Never do this at home.  Look how easily it killed this sig.
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