From: hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:36:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

From article <JIVE.92Apr9132451@spanky.ssc.gov>, by jive@spanky.ssc.gov (Jim Ivey):
> 
> In article <1992Apr9.153217.14011@cbnewse.cb.att.com> hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen) writes:
> 
>>   This is getting fun.
> 
>      This is getting stupid.
> 
>>   I guess you also don't hold Hitler responsible for  the  second  world
>>   war. Just imagine him saying, I am not responsible for anybody's elses
>>   actions. Only my own.
>>   B.llSh.t, without him there would not have been a second world war. 
> 
>      This _is_ stupid.  Completely irrelevant.  Another case of using an
> unrelated story which has truth in it, but no bearing on the argument.
> 

In that case you missed the origianls posting i replyd to.
I pointed out that the made argument, "I am  only  resposible  for  my
actions" Is not true.
Maybe the example was bad, but the relevency is clearly there.

>>   Also  without you, the people would not have had a reason to brake up.
>>   So it damn well makes you (at least, partially) responsible.
> 
>      If she is willing to consider going out with someone else, then she
> must already have a reason to break up.

How do you know if she had or not, have you asked her.??
No. ???? Well maybe you should before you start.

>      Of course he would have a problem with it.  I would have a problem
> with it.  This time you're twisting his words and falsely extrapolating
>  their  intent (Geez..  I didn't mean for the words to be so big;-).
I would

That okay.  :-)

> be _very_ hurt, if the person I love left me for someone else.  But it is
> _her_ decision.  The only thing I fear from a third party is forcing her to
> make a bad decision (i.e. seducing her while intoxicated, etc.).  If
she

And  that  is  what  i  am  trying  to  prove.!!!  (Not  directly  the
intocicating part).
Thank you.!!
 
> loves me and is happy with our relationship, she wouldn't consider leaving
> me for someone else.  If she does, then it is _our_ fault, for not working
> more on our relationship (or perhaps, just having irreconsileable (sp?)
> differences).

Very true.

> 
>>   Sad, very sad.
> 
>      These comments are generally worthless and irritating.  How can you
> judge someone else to be 'sad', when you aren't secure enough in your
> relationship to trust in your SO's (RP?;-) judgment?  She's just as much of
> an individual as you are, and shouldn't be forced or required to do
> anything.

The question was not if i was secure in my own relationships. But  the
question was would i bardge  in  on  somebody  elses.  A  question  of
consience, not insecurity.

> 
>>   Sorry, but i just had to explode here. 
>>   (Ducking for flames now.)
> 
>      Hope you've got a concrete bunker like the one I built after my last
> posts;-).  Seriously, the only reason I responded to this message at all is
> that you sound almost as arrogant as I came off as in my messages a few
> weeks ago;-).  Try to 1) not judge people so harshly, 2) leave out the
> absurdium examples, which only sway the casual reader, and 3) refrain from
> sticking in editorial comments like 'sad'.

Just  making  comments  about what other people would seem to think is
normal if they do it. But not normal if it is done to them.
I have a tendency to go into things full blast, sorry  if  people  can
not  handle it. I can of course say, i am only responsible for myself,
and not other peoples actions....... (:-)


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