From: MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka)
Subject: Re: I feel threatened by Christianity...
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:58:54 GMT
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In <1993Jan11.221419.9773@iscsvax.uni.edu> sperry2699@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.214149.22353@netcom.com>, bskendig@netcom.com
> (Brian Kendig) writes:

>> Robertson kept talking about how society is moving farther and farther
>> away from God, and how this nation is falling into such sinful
>> activities as drug use, murder, abortion, homosexuality and sodomy,
>> and materialism as a result.  
> 
> Society IS moving further away from God.  Don't you believe drug use or murder
> (for example) are sin?

      Us atheists don't always think "sin" even has a meaning. Those
things might be antisocial and destructive, but they don't - in my
arrogant opinion - have anything much to do with god(s) (tm).

>> He urged his audience to rally together
>> and fight the anti-Christian oppression.  He spoke highly of the fight
>> to put official prayer back into schools, 
> 
> There should be a time set aside for those who wish to pray.  Possibly a break
> from the classroom.  Is it so bad to have 20 min set aside for people to pray?

      There are such breaks, I believe, between each lecture - or even
during "empty hours", whatever those unused lectures are called in the
U.S. Do you guys really need to waste even more time?

>> Throughout the whole time I watched him,
>> Robertson kept talking about his desire to return America to
>> traditional family values, despite his opposition (which, it could be
>> inferred from his words, is quite morally depraved).
> 
> There is a lacking of traditional family values in this country.  If you don't
> see that problem, then maybe you are part of it.

      Are family values necessarily "good" merely because they're
"traditional"? Are they necessarily good at all? Back up your statement
a little, please!

>> I'm worried.  What am I to do if much of this comes to pass?  I don't
>> want my children to be singled out by sitting quietly during a school
>> prayer, 
> 
> What's the difference?  Your kids don't have to pray if they don't want to. 
> Isn't that good enough?

      You were never singled out for discrimination by your junior high
class"mates", I can tell. You'd be surprised at the torture those
innocent little kids can dish out on one another.

>> I don't want my tax money to be spent on a public nativity
>> scene, 
> 
> Too late.  It already is.

      That doesn't mean he has to like it.

>> I don't want Jehovah's Witnesses to come by my door (as they
>> did twice right after Christmas).  
> 
> They have the right to walk the streets and spread the twisted gospel
> that they do (unfortunately).

      Maybe a sign on the door would help - something like these "no
junk mail in my mailbox" things?

>> not have a well-meaning government decide what's morally best for me.
> 
> Good!  Then oppose the liberal government that we have and push for the
> conservative stand!

      You think one set of more-or-less corrupt politicians would be all
that much better than another...? Not that *your* government is any of
*my* interest, but...

>> enough -- seeing him on TV, with the phones around him ringing off the
>> hook with people pledging money to support him, really got to me.  How
>> _dare_ he try to pass _himself_ off as the oppressed one!
> 
> Christianity is opressed in the U.S.

      If you're going to make this kind of out-of-the-blue statements,
please provide at least *something* to back them up with.

> However, I've always heard that the opressed Church is the best!

      Maybe... That way, at least you'd get less of it rammed down your
throat...

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