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From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Kosher
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:55:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncrcae.1992Apr10.175547.20000
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Originator: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM

In article <1992Apr07.174957.2706@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> you write:

  > A friend of mine is looking for Kosher meat in Columbia, South Carolina.
  > Can anybody help?

>We order kosher meat from a couple of places in Atlanta; they seem to
>make monthly deliveries all over the South.  In addition, the national
>brands (Empire, for instance) seem to be available through regular
>grocery distribution.  We just bought some Empire chicken at the corner
>Bruno's, and there are at most a dozen shomer kashrut families in
>Madison county.

>> Have them call the Columbia chabad house at (803) 782-1831


Your help is much appreciated.

Nabil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu (Theodore M. Alper)
Subject: Re: Lyrics Request: Papirosn
Keywords: Papirosn, Lyrics
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:33:35 GMT

In <1992Apr8.134752.14925@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> arh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ava.r.heuer) writes:

>Well, Dave, start thanking.....


>                     "Papirrossen"

[1st verse (10 lines) and refrain (10 lines) deleted]

But there are also two MORE verses:

Mayn tate in milkome hot farloyrn zayne hent,
Mayn mame hot di tsores mer oyshaltn nit gekent.
Yung in keyver zi getribn
Bin ikh oyf der velt farblibn
Umgliklekh un eint vi a shteyn.
Breklekh klyab ikh oyf tsum esn oyf dem altn mark,
A harte bank iz mayn geleger in dem kaltn park.
Un dertsu di politsyantn
Shlogn mikh mit shverdn, kantn,
S'helft nit mayn betn, mayn geveyn.
Kupitye, koyft zhe, koyft zhe...

and

Ikh hob gehat a shvesterl, a kind fun der natur,
Mit mir tsuzamen zikh geshlept hot zi a gantsn yor,
Mit ir geven iz mir fil gringer,
Laykhter vern flegt der hinger   [hunger]
Ven ikh fleg a kuk ton nor oyf ir.
Mit a mol gevorn iz zi shvakh un zeyer krank,
Oyf mayne hent geshtorbn iz zi, oyf a gasnbank.
Un az ikh hob zi farloyrn
Hob ikh alts ongevoyrn,
Zol der toyt shoyn kumen oykh tsu mir.
Kupitye, koyft zhe, koyft zhe...

Xref: sparky soc.culture.jewish:7695 rec.music.folk:3100
From: dsdst3@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (David S Dubin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,rec.music.folk
Subject: Lyrics request: Papirosn
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:51:14 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


  If anyone can point me to a source for the lyrics to a song called
"Papirosn," (or can post them) I'd thank that person.


Dave
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Ba'al Teshuva (who is Orthodox?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:02:41 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway

In <2357@isgtec.isgtec.com> zale@isgtec.UUCP (Zale Tabakman) writes:

>What about a person who forgets to daven Maariv? Do they lose their "Stripes"

Men only get stripes (on the arm) at shacharit (mincha on tisha b'av).
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: david.lloyd-jones@rose.uucp (david lloyd-jones)
Subject: On Surpassing Einstei
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:10:59 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-08-92 01:03
Adding to: afwendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WENDY WARTNICK)
AF>Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
AF>Subject: Re: On Surpassing Einstein

AF>>[Hayim Hendeles:]
AF>>>>Any comparison to the secular world is totally misleading. I may
AF>>>>not have the intelligence of Albert Einstein, for example, but I can
AF>>>>probably learn all that he knew.

AF>Sure, but how much of that will you UNDERSTAND?  I HAVE read much of
AF>Einstein's work, but I surely do not understand it all!  Much of what he
AF>wrote involved great leaps of intuition and comprehension (and imagination)
AF>, and much of it is downright weird from our everyday point of view (
AF>relativity).

AF>Learning "all that he knew" (theorized) is easy, understanding its
AF>implications is hard.

AF>                        wendy

                             * * *
Wendy,

All this "romantic Einstein" stuff can get a bit overdone.  At one point
in there he had to go out and learn a thing called vector calculus just
to be able to express himself.  In one of his books he says that the
three months he spent on this work, picking up tools essentially, is the
hardest work he had ever done and during this time he was often afraid
that he would not be able to do what was necessary for his main work.

I think I could perhaps show off my milder persona by saying that
Hayim's post is somewhat presumptuous.

                                 :-)

                                          -dlj.
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.jewish:7927 talk.politics.mideast:10729
From: aplebaum@shum.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Jewish standards
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:47:24 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel


|> Do you like to know what kind of terrorists activities committed at "DER YASSIN"?

We all agree that it was a bad and sad event. 
The problem is that these things that are rare and against jewish values
are far more commen and more accepted among our hatefull neighbors.
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From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Question to Miracle Analysts
Date: 12 Apr 1992 17:37:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: How Would We Know..?
Keywords: Miracles

In article <9204120316.AA26160@relay2.UU.NET> br042@cleveland.freenet.edu wrote:

>What is a miracle?  It is a happening that demonstrates Divine Providence
>(i.e. that the Al-mighty is the master, director and sole controller of
>creation).  

I'd say that was a very apt discription of 'miracle'....  I hope
you don't mind if I 'borrow' it.... :-)

>Sometimes this message is made clear via the suspension
>of the laws of nature, (that G-d commits himself to function under, or
>perhaps better said) via which He inter-relates with mankind.  The exodus
>from Egypt was one such demonstartion and the 10 plages in Egypt were
>specificaly to demonstarte that concept to all the world.  
.   .   .   .   .
>alter@Freenet.cleveland.edu

Suspension of the laws of nature?  I'd disagree....

The 10 plagues can all be 'reproduced' by modern science.  
Indeed, most of the miracles attributed to the Al-Mighty and his
servants can be 'reproduced.'  Modern day science can't part the
Red Sea.  Why?  They don't have a magnetic field strong enough.
In other words, they know a WAY to do it, but they haven't the
necessary know-how to PRODUCE the effect.

The Al-mighty has no such limitations....  Having created the
Laws of Nature which people have been learning about for
centuries, G-D is infinitely more knowledgeable about their
manipulation.  So how do we know that G-D does NOT work within
the Laws of Nature?  How do we know that the status of 'miracle'
is simply not applied to those things we cannot explain
otherwise?

Nowadays, if a woman becomes pregnant without the introduction of
a man's sperm, we call it 'unusual,' not 'miraculous.'  Why?
Because we can do it ourselves, if we wanted to.  And yet, G-D's
influence is all around us, every day, in countless ways, and
people write it off as 'Luck,' 'Fate,' 'Chance,' 'Poetic
Justice,' et cetera.  Anybody claiming to see the 'miracles' of
everyday life is called a 'romantic' or 'psycho' and is treated
accordingly.

Such is the blindness of scepticism....

-Nick

Any unwritten letters in the above are only out of politeness.

If I have made any errors, I beg Allah (SWT) to point them out to
me that they may be corrected.  If I have made none, it is only
through the Grace of Allah (SWT) and all praises be to 'Him.'

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: Posting on SCJ
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 15:47:29 GMT

In article <622@kesher.UUCP> root@kesher.UUCP (Aaron_Schmiedel) writes:
>In article <1992Mar30.114535.22394@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
>> 
>> I appreciate your tolerance. There is a peace conference going on which I think
>> is much better than SCUDS, Patriots, or F16's.
>
>And hopefully more infinitely more accurate than a SCUD, three times more
>effective than a Patriot, and able to fly circles around an F-16.
>

Laser guided Peace.

>
>
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: The Arabian Mufti meeting Hitler
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:46:40 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.

In article <1992Apr9.003532.11350@uceng.UC.EDU> mgoller@uceng.UC.EDU (Michael Goller) writes:
>
>	Haj Amin el Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jersualem, legitimized his
>spokesman role for Palestinians through self declaration and violent
>warfare upon any rivals.  He killed Jews, British and Arabs to maintain
>his authority and to impress upon others (english and world press) that
>he was the sole legitimate representative of the needs and wishes of
>the non-Jewish Palestinian population.
>	His clan, the Husseini's were a prosperous and prominent family
>and gave rise to other leaders: Faisal Husseini and Yasir Arafat (all 
>related.)  Faisal is Yasir's spokesmen in pre 67 JOT (Jordanian occupied
>territory) and YAsir follows in the footsteps of the Mufti in pressing
>his claim (without substantiation) for leadership of Palestinians.
>

Congratulations for this article which will be very helpful for the 
Peace conference.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (posted for L.Taranov)
Subject: Jewish Immigrant Elec. Engineer Seeking Employment
Summary: Specializing in Electrical Design in Automation Engineering
Keywords: MSEE, 13 years experience, Industrial Electrical, Prog. Controllers
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 02:23:55 GMT

I've posted a resume in misc.jobs.resumes for an immigrant Jewish
engineer seeking employment in his field.

The article has the subject line as shown in this message,
and the Message-ID is  <1992Apr15.021631.25876@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Rabbenu Gershom
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:56:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.231533.24009@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> aryk@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (a.j.s. nusbacher) writes:
>The Edicts of Rabbenu Gershom were issued with a duration of 1000 years.  It
>seems to me that 1000 years are about up.  Considering that the edicts were
>issued with changing customs in mind, is there any serious opinion to the effect
>that they ought to be revised?
   I thought that what R. Gershom did was simply add the penalty of
   cherem (all your bones should suddenly snap.) Reading somebody
   else's mail, say, was already forbidden.
>
    Joel Hart Goldberg

    (see debates committee circa 1946-48)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Ralphie
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:03:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.191957.21717@colorado.edu>, perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (perlman eric) writes:
>Behnam is from Iran (I knew him in college), and so I doubt he is an
>Arab.  He is, however, very vocal about being anti-Zionist.

Then I stand corrected.  I said I wasn't sure.  Actually someone referred
to Benham as an Arab a while back.  I asked that person through e-mail
whether that was true because I thought that Benham was Iranian, but
that person said that he was Arab.  

>"How sad to see/A model of decorum and tranquillity/become like any other sport
>A battleground for rival ideologies to slug it out with glee." -Tim Rice,"Chess"
>     Eric S. Perlman  <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> or <eric@lyra.Colorado.EDU> 
>  Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier)
Subject: I say we should start a soc.culture.kkk or soc.culture.fascist newsgrou
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:15:44 GMT

Hello everyone,
 
I say that we should start a soc.culture.kkk or soc.culture.fascist newsgroup
where people could discuss neo-nazi issues which don't really pertain to the
Jewish people as there aren't many Jews who would be interested in such dreck
in the first place.
 
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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: More on the Early Sanhedrin
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:39:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44648
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1729@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
>In <1992Apr8.002627.26459@cirrus.com> chrism@cirrus.com (Chris Metcalfe) writes:

>>In Midrash Rabba Shemot it is stated that Amiram, the father of Moshe, 
>>was Av Bet-Din of the Sanhedrin in his day -- meaning that the tradition
>>of 70 elders was already functioning at that time.

>Well I think all have agreed that the institution was not called
>"Sanhedrin" in the time of Mordechai, certainly not at the time of
>Amram.  It might also be possible that the institution (at least
>before the Torah was given) was of a different form, perhaps having a
>different number of members, and perhaps with no postion exactly
>equivalent to "Av Bet-Din".  The Midrash may mean "Amram was an
>important leader" rather "Amram was one of seventy members, holding a
>position consisting of ..."

That there was some sort of court system, both civil and religious,
among virtually all groups of people even before Abraham seems to
be reasonably well established.  That the civil and religious courts
might be separate or combined is possible.  Indeed, the setting up of
courts is one of the Noachide commandments.

It is also the case that most nations having subjects not of the 
"ruling class", or even aliens in their midst, allowed these people
some measure of their justice system.  The functioning of the Beth
Din in medieval Europe is an example of this.

But the name "Sanhedrin" indicates that this form of court system cannot
have been in place before the Greek conquest, and I suggest that it dates
to the Ptolemaic period.  Remember that the Ptolemaic rulers of Egypt made
no attempt to interfere in the culture of the people they ruled, unlike the
Seleucids.  As to exactly which powers the Sanhedrin had, unfortunately we
do not have much non-Talmudic information.

Now for Mordechai.  Considering that the date of the captivity was 
586 BCE, and that of the accession of Xerxes, commonly believe to be
Ahashuerus, was 486 BCE, that Mordechai was one of those exiled with
Jehoiachin seems at least a little far-fetched.  Some even would make
the ruler Artaxerxes, which is later; Nehemiah was one of the officials
on one of those.  However, the Book of Esther has many other problems; 
for example, the Persian king was required to marry only Persian women,
and some others.)
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From: root@kesher.UUCP (Aaron_Schmiedel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Valid Interpretation Flamefest (sigh!)
Summary: Hmmm.....
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:39:31 GMT
Organization: KESHERnet International - Dallas, Tx

In article <FAIGIN.92Apr6202343@soldan.aero.org>, faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
> FAQ :-)). The decision is actually stricter than Orthodox practice. Orthodox
> practices allows the child of a Jewish mother to be treated as Jewish,
>

Actually it's Jewish law that proscribes this.  It is Reform practice that
rejects it.


Do you have any idea of what percentage of the Reform voted against the patrilineal descent rule?


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From: mike@math.nwu.edu (Michael R. Stein)
Subject: Cat food for pesach, the list reposted and corrected
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Northwestern University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:03:01 GMT

I am reposting the information below at Chris M.'s request.  I've made a
few corrections based on seeing the actual names in the store.

>I spoke to the Baltimore va'ad hakashrus. They inform me that
>the following varieties of *Fancy Feast* brand cat food may be used for
>Pesach 5752:

>chopped grill feast
>beef and chicken feast
>savory salmon feast
>tender liver and chicken feast
>cod, sole and shrimp feast

For those who asked: it is highly unlikely that any dry foods, etc. can be
used on Pesach since we are prohibited from owning or deriving benefit from
chametz. See the several followups to my original posting.

Chag kasher v'sameach.

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From: mer@zurich.ibm.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Correction: Chalav Yisrael Post
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:33:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: watson.1992Apr14.073352.29958
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In  <IduVuze00WBLQ8mRE3@andrew.cmu.edu>  Sandy Bodzin <sb5i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Numerous people have asserted that it is possible, albeit unlikely, that
> some grain would end up in the milk as the cows are fed while being
> milked.  Still, as milk is not water, wouldn't milk fall into the
> category of "mei peirot" as far as chametz is concerned?  Thus, even if
> grain and milk mixed, the result would not be true chametz and the issur
> is only a lav (poskim differ about the seriousness of the lav - this is
> the same lav applied to egg matzot), and not karet.  It just seems
> excessive to me to rule out all dairy products on the very remote chance
> that one may be over on a lav.
>

The non-use of dairy products is for most people a Minhag or a Chumra,
and the remote possibility of Chametz in the milk is handled
by Bittul.

However, such Minhagim of Pesach must be taken seriously by the decendants
of those who kept these particular Minhogim. Also, although during the year
excessive Chumros are frowned upon, by Chametz bePesach they are
considered to be a GOOD THING, since Chometz is an Issur beMashehu.

In general, you need to balance the idea of sin avoidance against the idea
of Drochehu Darkei Noam - that it should be possible to be happy performing the
Mitzvos, and "Dai ma Sheosru Olech Torah" - it is sufficient if one is
very careful keeping the existing Issurim and not creating new ones.

Kosher and Happy Pesach

Moshe Rappoport
From: sg04@ploni.gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Lubavitcher Rebbe's 90th birthday
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:23:19 GMT
Reply-To: sgutfreund@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

In article <1992Apr16.162433.27085@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, aryk@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (a.j.s. nusbacher) writes:

|> Ordinarily, I'd say go ahead and believe what you want.  Two things bother me
|> most here:  1.  The Christianised idea of the Moshiach--I think the Rambam would
|> have trouble with the idea of the Lubavitcher Rebbe as Moshiach.  2.  The fact
|> that the Rebbe himself might not even know about this--has the news gotten
|> past his handlers?


I think you are going to have to elaborate some of these points:

1. What makes you think that Chabad has a X-tian view of Moshiach
2. Why do you think the RamBaM would have problems with the Rebbe as Moshiach,
   Do you have some sort of special connection to the RamBaM?
3. The term handler is not an objective statement, but more a kind
   of deprecating imagery, which one usually finds in scummy political
   campaigns. Why do you feel comfortable in making such
   slights?

A short note on NPR.

I have been listening to NPR for over 10 years. (I miss the Susan
Stamberg shows). While I really appreciate the depth they bring
to issues, as opposed to the sound bite journalism practiced
by other news organizations. I am quite aware of their biases
against Yiddiskeit and Israel.

For example, during the Lebanon campaign they used to report the WAFA
(PLO News Agency) casualty reports (10,000 to 20,000 killed) as
straight news. They reported this stuff as if it was perfectly
credible, and never rescinded it. They also gave extensive air time to
a Candian Doctor in a PLO hospital there, who described all sorts of
atrocities, and this was also reported as absolutely unimpecheably true
news, and did not even raise one eyebrow about the fact that the guy
worked for a PLO Hospital, and should have at least been critically
questioned about his biases.


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