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From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Prost bashing
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:11:23 GMT

>>  Well maybe Prost has vetoed Brundle.  Brundle is a very competative
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

marbm-b@ascii.co.jp (Marcos Bachir Mubaied) writes:
> 	Maybe Prost will veto Mika also.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sigh.  Could we please give it a rest?  It's well known that Prost has a
no-Senna clause in his contract, but there is *NO* evidence at all that
he has vetoed anyone else: certainly not Mansell, who was offered a new
contract even while he was in his press conference.

>	He will do his best
> 	to assure no one is faster than him (everyone remember
> 	his humiliation when running with Senna!).

Might it not be at least partly due to the fact that Prost resents Senna
for not honouring his word when they were teammates?  Why jump to a conclu-
sion such as "Prost will do his best to assure no one is faster than him"?

Didn't Senna veto Warwick as a teammate (back in his Lotus days) also?  Does
that mean he was afraid Warwick was faster?  Or was Rosberg just afraid that
Mansell would be faster at Williams?  Sheesh!

Come on, let's be civilized.  Please.

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From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Petrese too old ??
Date: 10 Oct 1992 15:28:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
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In a previous article, 10707549@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (RADEK PRCHAL) says:

[comments about Patrese deleted]

Don't you get the feeling that some people just *want* to be flamed?
From: D19YC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: mitshubishi
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:34:03 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

hello everyone.
I am looking for information on the Mitshubishi Eclipse.
Do you think it is a good car?
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From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Subject: Re: Update: Tires - Slick Vs Treaded
Reply-To: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:35:26 +0000

One reason that you might see an apparent better gas mileage on
slicks is if they happened to be a smaller diameter than your heavy
treads.

Another reason is that you might run them at a higher pressure.

There is a certain amount of energy lost in terms of treaded tires
absorbing vibration from the pattern, but I don't think it is very
large at all. Generally the loss of energy is in the flexing of the
sidewalls, and the tread itself AFAICR. That is the type of
construction and the pressures are more relevant than the tread
pattern - or lack of it.
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From: koopman@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Koopman)
Subject: Re: F1 Portugal--AutoSprint summary
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:15:30 GMT

In <1992Oct13.124204.20661@news.clarkson.edu> taylor@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ross Taylor,Peyt312,6652,2655436) writes:

>From article <1992Oct12.220322.6470@fys.ruu.nl>, by koopman@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Koopman):
>> Another summary of news from AutoSprint. Issue nr 40 was printed
>> after the Portugese GP (and before the Estoril tyre tests).
....... .... .. .    ... ... .
>> tap in fuel line that allows FISA personell to rapidly take fuel
>> monsters.
>> Rob Koopman

>For the most part, you'd never guess that Rob is from Holland by his English
>which is very good.  Just occasionally he gives it away as he does in this
>delightful sentence.
>For those who don't know and coudn't guess, a monster is a sample.
>.. .. ..   .. . ........ .... . .. . .
>Ross Taylor
 

Errr... ah yes, eh NO NO, you've got me wrong, I mean after all,
electrons run through copper wires, and now we are considering fuel
lines. Why couldn't there .... ah, well, you've all seen those flames
coming from the exhausts haven't you?? ..... 

Rob
From: james@Bridge.COM (James Montebello)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Speed Comparison
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:30:03 GMT
Organization: Bridge Information Systems

In article <Oct12.174726.15809@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> dan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Danilo Silva) writes:
>I was watching a motorcycle race on TV and wondering how those bikes (500s)
>would compare to F1 on a same track. I understand that a bike is usually
>faster than a car (like 0-60 in 2.7 sec for ZX11), but F1 ...???

Bikes are faster than most cars in a straight line. However, this is 
not true of most top-line formulas (F1, F3000, IndyCars, WSC, etc.),
which are generally just as fast or faster in, say, 40-100 (which is 
more important in road racing than 0-60). Most high performance cars
corner as fast or faster than even the fastest bikes. Cars with
aerodynamic assistance corner significantly faster than bikes. 

For instance, the current bike lap record at Suzuka is around 2:03. The
current F1 lap record is something like 1:38 (1:28?, where's that darned
record book...) So F1 cars are *much* faster. 

The difference between the fastest racing bikes (500cc 2-stroke GP
machinery) and the fastest production street bikes (in the US, 1000cc+
4-stroke stuff) is vanishingly small compared to the huge gulf between,
say, a Williams FW14 and a ZR-1 (or even an F40). In back-to-back tests
in a motorcycle magazine a while back, a ZR-1 lapped Willow Springs 
about as fast as a bone-stock Yamaha FZR1000 street bike (1:35). The
outright bike lap record at Willow is 1:25. Anyone know the outright
Willow car record? I know IndyCars have tested there. In any case,
the difference between a ZR-1 and a Williams can be assumed to be
close to the difference between the fastest bikes and the Williams,
i.e., damned huge.
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From: andyw@meaddata.com (Andy Welter)
Subject: Re: Update: Tires - Slick vs. Treaded 
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:52:28 GMT
Reply-To: andyw@meaddata.com

In article Dx4@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca, white@watsci.uwaterloo.ca (Brad White) writes:
>First I would like to thank all those who responded.  I would like to ask
>one more question.  My friends new argument, is that one usually gets worse
>gas mileage on heavier treaded tires (snow, M & S etc.) then on summer
>tires.  Thus, he argues this proves that the reason racers use slicks is for
>mileage, but we use treaded for better traction...
>Brad
>

I think your friend is full of shit and just likes to argue
:-)   :-)   :-)

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From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Nigel and Michael
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:09:58 GMT

>
>And on the subject of Michael, is his wife going to get a 
>makeover before heading to the F1 life next year?  Americans
>are concerned.
>
>Dan Jones

Dan, she will....there are no K-marts in Europe....then again she could
always take her dressing cues from Elton John....or maybe she already 
has!

Ric Golen
From: ldahlmey@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Lothar Dahlmeyer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: FYI - WC points
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:31:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

Winston Cup Point Standings for top 18 positions as of 12-oct-1992
(Albuquerque Journal)

1.	Bill Elliott (11)		Ford	3650
2.	Davey Allison (28)		Ford	3611
3.	Alan Kulwicki (7)		Ford	3606
4. 	Mark Martin (6)			Ford	3562
5.	Harry Gant (33)			Olds	3555

6.	Kyle Petty (42)			Pont	3539
7.	Ricky Rudd (5)			Chev	3409
8.	Darrell Waltrip (17)		Chev 	3300
9.	Ernie Irvan (4)			Chev	3263
10.	Terry Labonte (94)		Olds	3261

11.	Morgan Shepherd (21)		Ford	3246
12.	Rusty Wallace (2)		Pont	3214
13.	Dale Earnhardt (3)		Chev	3208
14. 	Geoff Bodine (15)		Ford	3203
15.	Brett Bodine (26)		Ford	3167

16.	Sterling Marlin (22)		Ford	3156
17.	Ken Schrader (25)	 	Chev	3132
18.	Ted Musgrave (55)		Ford	3005

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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Subject: Re: MRN coverage of Charlotte?
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:34:54 GMT

tlm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry Matula) writes:

>I usually watch the NASCAR races on TV and also listen to them on MRN.
>My local MRN station had the race on Sunday all right, but it wasn't MRN.
>I think it was called the "Performance Racing Network (PRN?)."  Anybody
>have any info on this?  Does PRN and MRN both cover races, and my local
>station just decided to switch.  Or was this a one-time deal?  Kinda like
>how TBS and TNN are trying to emulate the good job ESPN has been doing for
>years.
>In my opinion, PRN was certainly nowhere near the quality of MRN.  

I believe that PRN is Charlotte's own racing network...they carry the two
Charlotte races...I don't know if they carry any others.

 -Steve
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From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Re: Alan Jones (was Re: More Rumours from Portugal ...)
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date:  7 Oct 92 22:09:09 GMT

In <1992Oct2.202858.23791@aa.cad.slb.com> wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson) writes:

>Can you tell us more about Alan Jones and/or the things he's said?  We don't

What he usually does is make insightful comments before and after the
telecast, in the manner of James Hunt, but with less bigotry and more
accuracy (I mean, he was racing F1 as recently as 1986). Actual quoting
is beyond me at the moment - but I'll keep an ear during the Japanese GP.

>making a brief effort to come back to F1 out of retirement some time ago,
>but he seemed to quickly vanish again.  Anyone recall what happened?  Any
>news about his current activities?

All this from memory, so corrections welcomed :

Jones was one of the drivers for the Lola-Haas team, which used the 
Cosworth V6 turbo motor. They started in 1985 with a blaze of publicity
saying that they were going to spend $80M over 5 years (sounded a lot
in those days), but then problems cropped up, Beatrice Foods (I think it
was they) were bought out, and basically they were underfunded and wanted
results too quickly. So, after 2 years of tooling around in the lower 3rd 
of the grid, AJ decided it wasn't dignified enough and went back to 
racing touring cars in Oz for fun.

I think the team used Hart turbos until the Cosworths came on stream.
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From: met@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Millam Tackitt)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Michael Waltrip gets fine
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:38:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ

In article <401@rehab1.UUCP> dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein) writes:
>
>  As you may (or may not) be aware, after the Goody's 500 Michael walked
> over and punched Dave Marcus in the mouth. Dave was still sitting in his
> car on pir road at the time!
>
>  Well NASCAR has fined him $500.00 and placed him on probation for the
> remainder of the 1993 year.
>
>  Good to see NASCAR wont put up with that kind of crap!
>
> -Dan
>-- 
Haven't been around racing long have you Dan.
I myself would like to see NASCAR butt out of personal conflicts.
Remember when theKing and Donnie Allison went at it on the track?
That is real racing, not the powder puff type of crap you seem to
enjoy. Go watch Indy cars if you want the soft easy stuff.
Preventing the release of anger just causes pent-up frustration
and the possibility of on-track vehicular manifestations to occur.

Millam E. Tackitt
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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: VCRS Round 5 "Spring 200"
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:14:55 GMT

In article <9228900.14278@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (Carl Brewer) writes:
>Special Guest navigator (gps is again unable to take his suicide seat)
>Mr Ben Bradley, from Washington State, USA,  a journalist from *the* Rally
>magazine in the US ...  (it sells 5 copies I think !!)
>

Oh my God!  Ben Bradley????  He's still out there somewhere?  This is
sort of like having just seen Elvis over at the shopping mall!

Hi Ben.....just kidding, you know.  

Two minor corrections - Mr. Bradley is from Orygun and secondly, 
make that *6* subscriptions.

Have a good run you guys, and keep the shiny side up......we expect
you back for the Coachman, Ben.  And for your info, I didn't hurt
the Kadett too bad last weekend at the TC driver's school.  I think
it can be fixed  :-(

-cball-

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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Top Five (US) drivers; forget the tracks ....
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:02:54 GMT

In article <5671@naucse.cse.nau.edu> met@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Millam Tackitt) writes:
>In the past NASCAR has shown flagrantly that they only wanted GM to
>win the cups. If you don't believe me do a little checking into the
>difference in fines for various violations on the part of both teams.
>FI, M. Martin fined 46 pts for a 2" spacer on his manifold and 6 GM
>teams found with ILLEGAL manifolds who were given warnings. If you
>check a bit and are an honest person you should be very dismayed that
>a manufacturer would accept an award knowing full well that it wasn't
>obtained honestly.
Did I just read that after the Charlotte race Sunday, The Tide team
(Rudd) was fined $5,000 (but didn't lose their 5th place finishing
position) becuz the car was found to be a 1/8" lower than the regs
allow?

If true, seems a fair judgment.  But then, if you or I had just finished
running that many laps, we'd probably be about an 1/8" shorter as well.

On the M. Waltrip/D. Marcis deal, I thought Mike just wanted to ask Dave
where he got his wingtips.  :-)  (To explain -- Dave Marcis has stuck
with wearing his good old wingtip shoes throughout the years.)

-cball-
>
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From: trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: What do you think of . . .
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 16:03:52 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa

 . . . ESPN pit-guy JON BEEKHUS !?

(I'm trying to figure out what it is about him that
 bugs me so.)

- s t e v e n

 "lovely little wombat / turning on a spit" - a two-line poem
      by my seven-year-old nephew
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From: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith)
Subject: IndyCar Prediction for Laguna Seca
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:19:45 GMT


Just a hunch:  Paul Tracy will win his first race this weekend.

Remember, you read it here first!

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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: New teams
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:00:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England


Ross Barton asks:

> 	I was wondering about the setups of F1 teams for next year.  I know
> 	there are three new teams, one of which is Sauber.  Who are the
> 	others?

Sauber are the most serious-looking of the new teams. There's also 
Pacific (the successful F3000 team) and Trebron. There was a lot of hype
about Trebron in the motoring press over the summer but I think the team
looks rather like vapourware -- it hasn't figured in any of the
rumour-mongering recently so it's hard to tell if they're still going ahead,
and if so, who's going to be driving for them. Last I heard, they were
probably going to be after Judd V10s. Pacific sounds like a fairly coherent
attempt at a team though.

pete
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From: amallik@eng.umd.edu (Ajoy Mallik)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: pick6-Suzuka
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:33:31 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

I just wanted to know if the pick6 call for Suzuka has gone out as yet?
I lost my previous account (dinku@wam..)..& the usual notice to that
acct. must've bounced...& I have no clue of the adresse of the
administrators to write to them directly..hence this..:-)
Please let me know

Ajoy Mallik
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From: pmh2962@tamsun.tamu.edu (Patrick Michael Hayes)
Subject: NASCAR: Charlotte Update
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:18:58 GMT

Howdy!
	This courtesy of our clari.sports.motor feed...

	Jeff Gordon snagged his 10th pole of the season for Saturday's
Busch GN race at Charlotte.  This ties him for most poles in one season.
He drives the Baby Ruth-sponsored Ford TBird owned by (?).  Gordon's
fast time was 172.6 mph -- this was faster than the fastest Winston Cup
car attempting qualifying for Sunday's MY 500!

	Any word on who'll be the replacement for Jeff next year in this
definitely HOT ride?


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: What do you think of . . .
Date: 12 Oct 1992 02:07:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo) says:

> . . . ESPN pit-guy JON BEEKHUS !?
>
>(I'm trying to figure out what it is about him that
> bugs me so.)

He is a very unnatural speaker.  It sounds like he is reading everything
from a que card, even when he is not.
From: nicos@csa.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Speed Comparison
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:46:25 GMT
Reply-To: nicos@cs.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


As a followup to the discussion about whether a sport-bike or
a formula car is faster, I always wanted to know which racing vehicle
(any number of wheels) is faster in a closed circuit.

** NOTE **
I do not want to create another F1 vs Indy war here.
I would just like some FACTS about different types of racing vehicles,
and the time they take to complete a lap in the same racetrack.

If you have access to information like this, please forward it my way
and I will post a report next week.


Thanks,

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From: tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Toby Vaughn Padfield)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: top 5 drivers/top 3 tracks
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:07:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvrBD9.HK
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rtw5722@zeus.tamu.edu (Ryan T. Wood) writes:

>From Deron Wood's post - And yes there is a direct relation here.  You
>                         know how brothers can get sometimes!! 

>In article <1992Oct6.201644.9956@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dwood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Deron A Wood) writes...
>>Here are my picks-
>> 
>>Drivers ( in no particular order)
>>     1.  Alain Prost
>>     2.  Ayrton Senna
>>     3.  Juan Fangio, III   ( of IMSA fame)
>>     4.  Al Unser Jr.
>>     5.  Michael Andretti

>>Deron Wood

>   I do not feel that Little Al should be included in the list of the five
>   best drivers.  He is not that great of a driver, just consistent.  I feel
>   that he is not the caliber of Prost/Senna/Fangio (F1 FAME).  I would put
>   Schumacher in the list before Little Al.

>   Anyway, have we forgotten the oldies:  Nikki and Phill Hill.

>   And what about the King of auto racing:  Richard Petty.

>   All three of these drivers are better than Little Al.



>Ryan T. Wood
>Texas A&M Sports Car Club - Vice President
>RTW5722@zeus.tamu.edu
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From: kim@unix.cc.emory.edu (Kim Wallen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Top Five (US) drivers; forget the trac
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:16:16 GMT
Reply-To: kim@unix.cc.emory.edu
Organization: Department of Psychology

In article 4136@noose.ecn.purdue.edu, unglenie@ford.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks) writes:

>Boycott GM until they stop crashing animals!!!!!!!!
>
>Rob U, will not buy another GM until they stop using animals in tests

I am interested in this.  what evidence do you have that GM is still using
animals in crash tests?  I knew they did this in the 70's, but thought they
had stopped long ago.

Thanks

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