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From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Date: 10 Sep 1992 18:14:46 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep10.115744.24576@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
|> (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
|> >
|> >So do I. I just cannot see how the Supreme Court has the authority to
|> >make those compromises that are more the functions of lawmakers. That seems like a 
|> >legitimate legislative function left either to the states or to Congress.
|> >But then, we are treading into a wholly different area -- that of judicial
|> >restraint vs activism.
|> 
|> Interesting! Say, can you please tell us how you distinguish the
|> separation of powers between the judiciary and the legislature!

Simple. What's in the Constitution is in their purview, what isn't
isn't. Wherever laws that violate one or more liberties that the
Constitution guarantees are passed, the court steps in. Else, it has
little or no jurisdiction. The rest are left to the people, either
acting through Congress or by the state legislatures, the former being
supreme where they come into conflict.

|> For example, is Brown outside the purview of the Supreme Court?

Brown v Board of Education (1954) and Plessy v Ferguson (189?) had
to do with the 14th Amendment, (specifically the equal protection clause) 
which being a part of the constitution was under the purview of the 
Court. 

For a beter idea of what exactly I think of Roe, and the extent of
judicial activism inherent in it, I suggest you read the editorial
in the New Republic the week after the Casey decision was handed down. 
It explains the issue better than any thing else I have read. If you 
want to delve into it further, try _The Tempting of America_ by Robert Bork.

Since this is getting quite far afield, you might want to continue the
discussion over e-mail.

|> Satya Prabhakar
|> 

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.classical
From: krish@athena.mit.edu (Viswanathan Krishnan)
Subject: Classical Concert in Boston this Saturday (12th)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:35:07 GMT

		South Indian Classical Music Concert
		------------------------------------

	Vocal:	 	Mrs. Seetha Rajan
	Violin: 	Mrs. Radhika Mani
	Mridangam: 	Mr. Prakash Rao

	Where: 		MIT Rm. 6-120
	When:		Saturday, Sep. 12, 6.30 PM

Seetha Rajan is a disciple of Sangeetha Kalanidhi Sri Semmangudi
Srinivasa Iyer.She teaches Music at the Music Academy in Madras 
and is currently touring the US. At Boston, she will be accompanied 
by Mrs. Radhika Mani and Mr. Prakash Rao, both from New Jersey.
(Donations Welcome)

----------------------
	 Vish. Krishnan: The King of Vishful Thinking
MIT Room: E53-340                       313 Allston St., Apt. B1
Cambridge MA 02139                      Brookline MA 02146
(O): (617)253 0250                      (H): (617) 739 1168
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: Connected to ludvig.solan.unit.no
Followup-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka (...) User unknown
Keywords: To: thaya
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:51:05 GMT

In article <kat.716565170@tomalak>, kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) 
writes:
 >  For the people who say that Tamizhs are not fighting for
 > the right cause, I ask only one question.
 > 
 >   Will they watch their women and children raped, libraries
 > burnt by an army that claims to be srilankan, but only
 > composed of Sinhalese?
 > 
 > 
 > If they do then we can guess what kind of people they
 > are.
 > 
 > 
 > But we know that tamizhs right from puRanaanooRu days have
 > stood for self-respect and pride.
 > 
 >    vaalzhga maRath thamizhan!
 > 
 > Kathiravan 
 > 
 > 

   any comments
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Limerick (Re: Why can't Indian girls be more outgoing)
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:53:55 GMT


Jayasimha lost me there with his `slash' poem. I thought a limerick
may bring some clarity.

Once there was a pretty young Indian girl in Columbus
Living adjacent to an Indian guy who never had cunnilingus
Inevitable as fate is they accosted in the corridor
The girl quickly turned around and locked the door 
The guy ran for cover and hid inside a closet
They were there motionless from morning until sunset
When the other tenants walked into their apartments
They smelled a familiar stench coming from the vents
And thought a couple was making out in the ducts of ventilators
A playful one pulled the fire alarm to expose the copulators 
Everyone in the building ran outside covered with rugs and blankets
Except for two with pale faces crawling slowly with hands in their pants

:-)


Murthy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: swami1@troy.uucp (22535-swaminathan)
Subject: Re: Sam Pitroda vs M.K.Gandhi
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 15:40:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.180426.25716@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> skc@Turing.ORG (Shriram K. Chaubal) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.143105.8263@csc.ti.com> krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan) writes:
>>
>>I recently read a review of Sam Pitroda's biography.  The
>>author of his biography has compared Sam Pitroda's return 
>>to India in 1985 to M.K.Gandhi's return to India in 1915 
>>from South Africa.  It seems he had similar goals and zeal
>>that M.K.Gandhi had when he returned.
>>
>>Krishnan
>>
>>
>
>Dammit .. when is someone going to say ....
>
>"Mr Krishnan, I have known M.K. Gandhi ... and Sam Pitroda is *NO* M.K.
>Gandhi."
>
>Give me a break ... I am sure someone will say the same about me if I pay
>'em to write my biography.
>
>Shri
>

I don't know Mr. M. K. Gandhi. I know Mr. Sam Pitroda for many
years. He is the most misunderstood person caught up in all the
political and self-interest groups in India, who are trying their
best to drive him out of India. He is not only an idealist with a
great missionary zeal, but is also an outstanding technical manager.

He had made his millions while here, and had no further ambition
than to bring prestige for India. He realized that given the same
atmosphere present in this country (including a mission, time-bound
schedules, responsibility to make decisions, and accountability) our
Indian engineers can perform the same feats that are performed by
companies in USA using the same Indian engineers.

I have made many visits to the CDOT office at Akbar hotel during my
business visits to India, and he and Mr. Mimamsi used to take me
around to show me the progress and introduce to all the engineers
there. All he wanted was a pat on the shoulder for his engineers. He
was very much concerned with the morale of the engineers.

There were many self-interest groups hungry for commission money
from the multinationals roving in India, who could get to the
legislators in India and try to bad mouth him. Some of them import
components with the permits they procure for money from the Junior
officers in the ministries, and could mark them up as high as the
market will bear, sometimes at obscene prices. They would buy
devices from mail order houses in USA (some of them used to visit
with me here) for pennies, and sell them for
hundreds of dollars apiece. What he did was to establish a
purchasing company that would buy them here or in Taiwan or any of
the world markets and mark them up just to cover shipping costs
(less than 5%) so that he could meet the budget constraints for his
project in India.

It is a pity that his family got fed up with all the sacrifices that
they have to make and moved back to this country, and now he has to
balance between his family and his mission in India.

While the self interest groups and the politicians are having a hay-day
in India, India has lost a great man who is idealistic, energetic, and 
willing to sacrifice for the nation and its prestige.
swaminathan
From: nakkala@cs.tamu.edu (Venkatesh Nakkala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Joke ..Interesting...
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:07:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University


                   A Mismatched Pair of Gloves
 
... A young man wished to purchase a present for his sweetheart,
and after careful consideration, he decided on a pair of gloves.
Accompanied by his sweetheart's sister, he went to a department
store and bought a pair of white gloves.  The sister purchased a
pair of panties for herself.  During the wrapping, the items got
mixed up.  The sister got the gloves, and the sweetheart got the
panties.  Without checking the contents, the man sealed the
package and sent it to her with this note...
 
Dearest Darling,
     This is a little gift to show you I have not forgotten your
birthday.  I chose these because I noticed that you are not in
the habit of wearing any when we go out in the evening.  If it
had not been for your younger sister's advice, I would have
chosen the long ones with the buttons, but she wears the short
ones that are very easy to remove.  These are a delicate shade,
but the lady I bought them from showed me a pair she had been
wearing for three weeks, and they were hardly soiled.  I had the
sales girl try them on, and she really looked smart.  I wish I
could put them on you for the time.  No doubt that other men's
hands will come in contact with them before I have a chance to
see you again.  When you take them off, blow in them before
putting them away as they will naturally be a little damp from
wearing.  Be sure to keep them on when you clean them, or they
might shrink.  I hope you will like them, and will wear them for
me on Friday night!
 
                         All my love....
 
P.S. Just think how many times I will kiss them during the coming
year.  Also, the latest style is to wear them folded down with
the fur showing.
 
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 Off : (409)845-5481                       Res : (409)268-7404
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From: myneni@cs1.bradley.edu (Srinivasa Myneni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Aparna looking for Pravin from VRCE Nagpur(1987-1991)
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:00:43 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Bradley University

Dear Pravin,
	   This is Aparna who graduated from R.E.C.Trichy in electrical
engineering. {1987-1991}.I'm right now at bradley university,Peoria,Il
Do contact me at this phone no.(309)637-8368.anybody who reads this 
please let me know about his whereabouts.My e-mail address is given
below.

aramakri@bucs1.bradley.edu 

-Aparna Ramakrishnan
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Should Indian states need more autonomy?
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:25:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Sep6.051357.4450@cbnews.cb.att.com> rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar) writes:
>In article <Bu3z5F.MxI@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep5.023700.15538@cbnews.cb.att.com> rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar) writes:
>>>In article <Bu2L5q.Fp3@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:
>>>>
>>
>>
>>May I advise you to think twice before you write! There was an
>			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>overwhelming reporting of the fascist Karunanidhi's govts
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>dealings in in the newspapers at the time the IPKF was in
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Sri Lanka.
>>
>
>
>Overwhelming reporting in newspapers is not recognized and is not
>interpreted one way or other in Indian or any constitution anywhere
>in the world.
>
The matter under discussion, as I pointed out, delat with the center's
right to dismiss the state govt. Where some triatorous activity
is being condened or being conducted under the very nose of a
fascist govt of Karunanidhi, the center has every right to dismiss
that govt. It is sufficient a justification to throw out
a state govt that concucts a foreign policy operation contrary
to the interests of the nation state. Actually it should not
even conduct a foreign policy operation.


>There has been overwhelming reporting of Bofors too. So what?
>How many want to draw conclusions of Rajiv's or anyone else's
>involvement, based upon newspaper reporting?
>
As I said Rajiv's supposed involvement in Bfors does not come in the
scope of the discussion on center-state relations and of the notion
of dismissal of state govt. Think!
>
>You have every right to decide that overwhelming newspaper reporting
>is proof-enough for you to label Karunanidhi as a facist.
>I'd rather wait until a court decides one way or other. I dont care
>either about Karunanidhi or about Rajiv Gandhi that much. 
>
Karunanidhi is a fascist not because of newspaper reports. Karunanidhi is
fascist for the philosophy of hate based on race that he advocates.

...kt
From: majumdar@erlang.usc.edu (Amitava Majumdar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Travel agents
Date: 7 Sep 1992 12:52:17 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: erlang.usc.edu

Need info on reliable travel agents, preferably in the LA/SF area.
	     ^^^^^^^^
If you know of or have dealt with any please send me their phone #.

You could address your reply to 
majumdar@poisson.usc.edu

Thanks in advance.

amit

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: SBI CDs : which currency is best ?
Organization: SETT Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:43:49 GMT

Hi Financial gurus,

I am planning on investing some money in SBI NRI CDs 
(I don't remember the exact word). I can invest in $,Yen,
Pounds,D.Marks. I plan to invest for 6 months (or say a max
of one year). which currency will give me good returns.
D.Marks has the best interest rate (11+%) and $ has the lowest
(4+%).

Please respond by email only.

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kgprasan@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Prasanna Kumar Ghali)
Subject: Re: India contributes $100 million to the super-collider project
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:18:28 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Sep8.190016.13866@jade.tufts.edu> slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri) writes:
>Few days back, I remember someone telling me that India has
>donated $100 million to the super-collider project. In fact, India
>is the only foreign country that has contributed to this project
>so far !! Can anyone substantiate this ?
>
>-Sandip

India has provide around $10 million and not $100m. the final price 
tag for the project is expected to be around $2-3b.
Pras.
From: ta-vg11@muddnext28.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: national language
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:54:39 GMT
Organization: Columbia University



Does USA have a national language?
Do other countries have a national language?
What are they?
How were they decided?
Does USA subscribe to a religion?

Of Course all the answers to the above questions are to be used for  
thinking about the related Indian questions.

Vikas.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE)
Subject: Re: Prolific posters of the last fortnight...
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:04:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.024459.17670@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
>If you think the news.lists newsgroup has a purpose, then the
>"Prolific posters" list has a similar purpose. 
>
>arunk@cs.utexas.edu (Arun Kandappan)
>writes in <lal4ldINNsb1@cash.cs.utexas.edu>:
>
>)An index of topics discussed would be more useful.
>

or better still a change in the title of this list to something like:

Prolific Jesters of the Past Week

-harsh deshmane

-- 
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Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (the_tramp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sari, churidar, etc. (why should I.....?!)
Keywords: Indian, traditional, costumes
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:07:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hmmm..I would rather say that Indian women  are very very
lucky..they have such a wide range to choose from..
they can wear traditional indian dress (100 types of saris, diff
styles of wearing and so on) as well as western dress..
it only expands the horizon.....dont you think?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history
From: raj@utkvx3.utk.edu (S. KANAKA RAJ)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and Unity of India
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:21:00 GMT

In article <92253.171644DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>,
Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...

>My question is where does Tamil/Dravidian language/culture fit into this ?
>regards..          Deepak

From the knowledge that I have from reading books on Puranas, Upanishads,
and the present day life styles of people in our part (MadhuraiDistrict) of
Thamizh Naadu, I have the understanding that the notion of "Dravidian" is a
cooked up theory. I don't know at what time in the history of Bharath and who
invented this. But from my understanding, the overall lifestyle of the people 
in terms of spirituality and religion as depicted in ancient literature is
practiced all over Bharath. There is no question of Dravidians and Aryans. I
want to emphasize just one thing: the concept of race as understood in modern
times was not emphasized in those scriptures. Similary if you look very closely
at the syntactic structure of Tamil and Sanskrit, they are very close. I was
told both the languages were derived from a still older language.

The word 'Arya' was used only as an adjective and not denoting the name of a
particular race. It is another word like 'Brahmin' that got corrupted over
time. You are not born as a 'Brahmin'; whereas you can become a 'Brahmin'
(one who has realized the Brahman). Similarly, you are not born an 'Arya'; but
you can become an Arya (a noble soul). I don't know when this kind of
manipulation, used to play one section of the people against another, 
is going to stop. Then only we can start talking about real improvements in our
country.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Destroy the unreal ego to find the Real.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

S. Kanaka Raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Vikram Mahajan(REC Durgapur)
From: rthiagarajan@desire.wright.edu
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:18:30 EST
Organization: Wright State University 


Hi!
  I am looking fo a Vikram Mahajan who is presently doing his
master's at Univ of Kentucky Lexington.He is from REC Durgapur 91 batch

Please reply to hreddy@valhalla.wright.edu

Thanks,

Hari K Reddy




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Inquiry .....
Keywords: Terrorism?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:22:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.012909.242@massey.ac.nz> J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal) writes:
>
>>Booby Sands and four others who fasted to death in the Northern
>>Ireland
>>jail (I think county Antrim) practiced Gandhism, at least
>>according
>>the Jyothirmoy Basu's speech in the parliament. Bobby Sands was
>>a member of IRA and convicted murderer. Even if he conducted the
>>fast under the full blaze of the publicity given by the terrorist
>>wing
>>of the Amnesty international, Bobby Sands was a terrorist! Period!
>
>>So is this terrorist that you mention above!  Whether he refuses
>>to take food and die, or he is denied food so that he starves to
>>death is immaterial. The terrorist got what he deserved.
>>
>...kt
>
>Such a load of crap - the above. Sorry I am not personally
>attacking U but just your understanding of the Northern Ireland
>situation. It is the Brit'shits'(English- from England) who are the
>real terrorists up in Northern Ireland.  Bobby Sands and others are
>only 'freedom fighters' - they are/were sick and tired of being
>supressed. Just 'cause the Brit'shits' branded them as terrorists
>means nothing. 
>
>Bobby Sands and mates had a more violent approach in their quest
>for freedom. On capture they moved to the next feasible action
>possible. DO NOT brand them as terrorists without understanding the
>history and the politics of Britain. The English throughout history
>have used the term 'savages' to violently supress civilizations.
>Today they call them terrorists. I am surprised with the above.
>
>John Ainikkal
>'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud

I would advice you to watch a television documentary series made
by a historian from University college Dublin! The title of the
series is called : "Ireland: A Television History". It was serialized
on BBC-2 channel and we used to avidly watch the same, for its
accuracy of the history of Ireland and objective presentation
of the events leading up to the formation of the Irish Republican
Army in the preindependence days of Ireland, the Post office
uprising, the granting of the Irish independence, and the
birth of the Provisional IRA, the concept of the Diplock courts,
and so on. Provisional IRA of which Bobby Sands was a member
is a terrorist organization; you don't need the Brits to tell
us that! Go to Northern Ireland ask all the moderate catholic
citizens and moderate protestant citizens, they will tell you
what actually it is! Please learn history before you make
your usual assumptions about this colonial Brits! I can understand,
having been from India which was a colony, we tend to view the actions
of British government with deep suspicion! But the facts with respect 
to Northern Ireland are different. Learn one thing! Terrorists
are terrorists! Provisional IRA is a terririst organization!
Bobby Sands was a terrorists, not a freedom fighter!
...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shalan@engr.latech.edu (Shivram Halan)
Subject: Re: dianananananananananananananananananana
Reply-To: shalan@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:03:02 GMT


	Check the movie "Mississippi Masala"
shiv.

	
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From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Inquiry .....
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:27:41 GMT
	<BuL2x7.Cp4@cs.psu.edu>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

What a narrow minded fool!
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