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From: afruben@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO)
Subject: Re: EL  LICOR MAS FUERTE DEL MUNDO
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 12 Jan 1993 13:18 EST  

In article <C0qzLI.DEI.2@cs.cmu.edu>, pjm@stevens.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J. Moreno) writes...
> 
>Me he traido desde Espa#a un licor bastante fuertecillo para que los  
>colegas de Patoburgo lo prueben , se trata de un anis seco especial,  
>(banda morada) de Chinchon. El anis este tiene 74 grados de  
>alcohol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
>He estado mirando por ahi, y un Pacharan suele tener unos 20 grados de
>alcohol, un Whisky creo que no pasa  de los 40...en fin, mi pregunta a  
>este foro de sapiencia es:
> 
>???Es este el LICOR MAS FUERTE DEL MUNDO???
> 
>Na mas, pura curiosidad.
> 
>Pedro
> 
>PS
>Este anis es para tomarlo con la tripa bien llena y despues de una
>buena comida, porque tomarlo con el estomago vacio puede ser un suicidio!!
> 
>--
>Pedro J. Moreno			(NeXTMail yes!!)
>Graduate Student
>Electrical and Computer Engineering
>Speech Group
>pjm@stevens.speech.cs.cmu.edu 
>Carnegie Mellon University


De que es fuerte, seguro lo es.  Pero no es el mas fuerte.  El ron 
puertorriquen~o tiene unos 80 grados y hay una version especial de 151 
grados.  Este 151 si que patea de verdad, es mas la botella advierte que es 
flamable y peligroso.  Aun asi no creo que este sea el mas fuerte que 
exista.
From: 280villar@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Mecano ??
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:40:08 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <2833@nnctgw.info.nara-k.ac.jp>, gavin@info.nara-k.ac.jp (Gavin R. Brock) writes:

> ______________________________________________________
>  Anyone know anything about the Spanish group MECANO?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I have just aquired one of their ablums, "Descanso dominical"
> and I quite like them, but I don't know anything about them.
> Are they popular in Spain? - Whats there best album? - Where
> exactly do they come from? - etc..
> 
>  Any info would be greatly appreciated,
> 
>                                           Gavin Brock
> 
>                                         (Born Zaragoza)
>                                       (Bread in Scotland)
>                                         (Lost in Japan)
> 

	I don't know if Mecano is the best band in Spain, but they really are
the most popular band.  I think the principal reason that makes them so popular
is that they were the first one playing that kind of music in Spain, and that
was about 13 years ago.  Another good thing about them is that each new album
they had was much better than the last one.  "Descanso Dominical" is a very
good one, but the last one, "Aldalai", I think is better.
	Of course, this is only my opinion.  Ah, and I think all of them are
from Madrid (the capital city of Spain).

	Saludos,  Mikel.


				Aupa ATHLETIC!!! (de Bilbao, claro...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Spanish model railroads
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:06:33 GMT

I have seen, in the past, advertisements for a Spanish model railroad
manufacturer that shows trains similar to 1950s U.S. Lionel and wondered if the
company was still in business and had an address to which I could write.

Any help would be deeply appreciated, mostly by my children!

David Chorley.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: manuel@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Manuel Balmaseda)
Subject: Re: EL  LICOR MAS FUERTE DEL MUNDO
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:10:55 GMT


	Creo que alguien esta confundiendo el "proof" que se utiliza en este
pais con los grados que se utilizan en Spain.  Creo, corregidme si me
equivoco, que los grados indican porcentage de alcohol, por lo tanto es
imposible que un licor tenga mas del 100%.  Creo que el "proof" es
aproximadamente medio grado.
From: dominguez@ESAII.UPC.ES (Pablo Dominguez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: RE: Vacances
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:17:35 -0600
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Reply-To: Pablo Dominguez <dominguez@ESAII.UPC.ES>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Uff ya llegue de vaciones, snifff
(contesto a tu mail con un poco de retraso, sorry)
Por supuesto que las hace mi madre... aunque en Cantabria, a las torrijas
se las denomina (jo, me ha quedado de un academico...) tostadas.
Torrijas se usa en Castilla.
Siento que no las hayas comido, pero son muy faciles de hacer, no se necesita
ningun producto especial, espera, ya decia yo, necesitas leche de vaca, a ser
posible de vaca cantabra (ten en cuenta que la de tetra-brik no se sabe de
donde procede, la ingenieria genetica hace milagros)
Un saludo.


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Pablo Dominguez                     |  "La mujer y la sardina,
dominguez@esaii.upc.es              |   ha de ser santanderina"
root@jinks.upc.es                   |
Dep. Ingenieria de Sistemas (ESAII) |  "Add, Subtract and multiplex,
Facultad Informatica Barcelona      |   give me life, give me sex"  ;-)
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                                      ______/..._
                                     |.. *    */Barcelona
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                #BRASIL#             |_:_  __/
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From: genius@maths.tcd.ie (Conall Kennedy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Summer Work in Spain
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:49:20 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.

Busco un trabajo en alguna parte de Espana para el verano de 1993.Soy un chico 
de diecinueve anos y hablo el espanol hasta <<A-Level>>(grado 'A').Considere    todas ofertas.Muchas Gracias.   
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:45:46 -0500 
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From: delval@scottie.Stanford.EDU (Alvaro DelVal)
Subject: vaya apalanque!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University, CA, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 16:43:22 GMT

Un dato curioso: al parecer, la edad media en Espana para que los
hijos se independicen de los padres economicamente y vivan por su
cuenta es TREINTA anos. Asi que me imagino que por cada uno que se va
a los 20, hay uno al que su madre le cocina y le lava los trapos hasta
los 40.  Como decia uno: "vive de tus padres hasta que puedas vivir de
tus hijos".

Como comparacion, me decia una amiga finlandesa que alli esta muy mal
visto socialmente si no vives independientemente despues de los 18.

Alvaro
From: jroma@IITCIT.UPC.ES (Joan Roma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Un par de preguntitas sobre el Internet. A ver quien sabe...
Date: 12 Jan 1993 10:45:31 -0600
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Reply-To: Joan Roma <jroma@IITCIT.UPC.ES>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hola Alex!

Respecto a tu solicitud, creo que en algun rincon de las entratas de mi
disco esta la LIST de LISTS que deseas. Si tengo un ratito te la pasare.
Te adelanto que la lista es bastante laaaaarga.

Ciao.

Joan            --- El Mac al poder :-)

---------------------------
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INTEXTER, UPC
JROMA@iitcit.upc.es
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From: dlchica@eng.auburn.edu (Sebastian de la Chica)
Subject: Re: EL  LICOR MAS FUERTE DEL MUNDO
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:48:53 GMT

Has probado el Pisco Chileno?

Sabe alguien cuantos grados tiene?

SdlC
From: CCSMEL@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Melissa Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: ?Futbol?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 07:41:04 -0600
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Reply-To: Melissa Miller <CCSMEL@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Los resultados de la 16 jornada:
  Logrones  0      Bilbao  1
  Valencia  0      Zaragoza  1
  Deportivo  3     Espa&ol  0
  Albacete  5      Cadiz   0
  Gijon   0        Oviedo  1
  Burgos  0        Rayo Vallecano  3
  R. Sociedad  1   A. Madird  0
  Barcelona  2     Celta Vigo  0
  R. Madrid  3     Osasuna    0
  Tenerife   3     Sevilla  0

La liga va asi:
  Deportivo      25
  Barcelona      24
  R. Madrid      22
  Valencia       19
  A. Madrid      19
  Tenerife       18
  Bilbao         18
  Sevilla        18
  Gijon          18
  R. Vallecano   17
  Zaragoza       17
  Osasuna        16
  Espa&ol        15
  Oviedo         13
  Celta Vigo     12
  R. Sociedad    12
  Albacete       10
  Cadiz          10
  Burgos          8
  Logro&es        7

      Ciao,
      Melissa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: rene@rice.edu (Rene G. Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: EL  LICOR MAS FUERTE DEL MUNDO
Originator: rene@athene.cs.rice.edu
Reply-To: rene@rice.edu (Rene G. Rodriguez)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:01:52 GMT


|> >(banda morada) de Chinchon. El anis este tiene 74 grados de  
|> >alcohol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|>
|> De que es fuerte, seguro lo es.  Pero no es el mas fuerte.  El ron 
|> puertorriquen~o tiene unos 80 grados y hay una version especial de 151 
|> grados. 

Creo que estas confundiendo los grados GL con el "proof" (que no se como
se traduzca). Si no me equivoco, grados GL son equivalentes a porcentaje
de alcohol, mientras que proof es el doble de los grados GL. O sea que
el anis mencionado antes tiene 74% de alcohol, el ron tiene 40%, y el 151
tiene 75.5%, asi que el 151 tiene (un poco) mas alcohol que el anis banda
morada.

--rene
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: NIEH@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jenn-Yen Nieh)
Subject: test
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:41:11 GMT

This  is a test form a buggy reader.
From: f254@cs.utexas.edu (Fall Class Account)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Finding Summer Job/Internship in Tainan?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:28:22 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

I am a foreigner (Japanese) who is planning to spend this coming summer
with a Taiwanese friend of mine in Tainan and am interested in finding
*something to do* while I'm there.  I can hardly speak Chinese. :< (Well,
I've been trying to learn!)  Would it be possible for me to find anything
at all?  Is there an organization I can contact in order to increase the
chance that I DO find something?
Thank you in advance.>
From: ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:06:31 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <C0p1yt.7KL@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:

> More population did indicate the balance was in favor of
> better condition, one of which was better food supply;
> Please do not use a single period--Thrre Kingdoms, to generalize whole ancient
> chinese history, ancient China had most population concentration on Earth from
> 280bc to current.
> I hope I do not have to explain again.
> 

	** Please do. You haven't answer my former question yet.

	   Is better food condition the only reason for the fact
	   that China has the largest population in the world?
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Why mainlanders are so mixed up?
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:32:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <106866@bu.edu> lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.103401.4262@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>>
>Well, we are here to learn freedom of speech. Though I don't agree with
>
>The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
>organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
>are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
>Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.

Lix has learned something. But, it is pretty bad to expose personal information
from the donation. In particular, twist the fact, or mis-translate the thought.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com (kenw)
Subject: Re: A thought on Mainlanders' AttitudeDIR
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:09:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.091813.4245@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
>
>	   I don't know your age. But it seems the younger generation
>	   in Taiwan already forgot what CCP is (or they never know).

          
         Eric, I believe that you mean to say 


         The younger generation in Taiwan already forgot what CCP is (or they never know)
         in the way CKS or his followers want you to know.
From: u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: news about Korean govt action against Taiwan
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:52:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: rex.C0r5o7.J3
Organization: University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, OKC

In article <AfIfYVy00UhWE17Wsi@andrew.cmu.edu> bw1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Betty H. Wu) writes:
>
>The South Korean government recently disallowed several ROC offices in
>Korea to hang the R.O.C. flag.  I find this to be an outrage in a
>supposedly democratic country.  
>
>The ROC government is trying to find ways of retaliating.  I think the
>best retaliation is for all of the Chinese people in Korea to choose a
>date and hang the ROC flag in protest.  
>
>This post is not in support of the Taiwanese gov't but in support of all
>the Chinese people who are proud of being Chinese.

	Your suggestion is good but not so practical.  First I don't
think CCP will do this; on the contrary, CCP will applaud.  Maybe (just
I guess) CCP is the one who encourages South Korea to do so.  It's
nothing to with if S. Korea is a democratic country or not.  They
have their own foreign policy.  If you understand this, you won't get
angry any more.  Take care.    YJ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski)
Subject: What does a HP48sx cost in Taiwan?
Organization: Lysator ACC at Linkoping University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:10:32 GMT

Subject line says it all.

I'm wondering what the price of an HP48sx calculator is in Taiwan.

If you know, please let me know by responding by email.

Thanks, 

	-Chris

--
	      
	      ------------------------------------------------
	      If you got the feeling - jump across the ceiling.
	      ------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: tsen+@MM.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (Chung Kang Tsen)
Subject: message from afar
Originator: tsen@MM.GP.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:38:44 GMT


>---------------------------------------------------------------------<
>This is a message from Shin1-Dien4,Taipei.
*                                *                                    *

>This is the first time I try to talk to all of you on internet.
>Please don't bother to tell me if I done something improper.
>I am a new kid in this fantastic town.
>My path to connect with internet is as follows:
>
>   [my pc]-->[my cousin's account in ntu]-->
>          -->[my another cousin's account in cmu]
>               -->[newsgroup]
>
>Since the ntu unix system does not provide command tonter newsgroup,
>I have to take a longer way to access internet.
>
>-------------------------------------------------Wang Chung-Yu,Jerry-<
                                                     0109 0540 1993
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Subject: Re: Li-Hau Institution
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:14:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.042228.19350@engage.pko.dec.com> li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li) writes:
>
>In article <9301120250.AA05199@tpts1.seed.net.tw>, idpt167@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USR) writes...
>>... 
>>they prefer Mr. Hau to stay on the job, otherwise they hope the
>>president will nominate a person of native Taiwan provinciality.
>...                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>anymore but also show the unity of BSR/WSR. I totally agree.

	I have being thinking in the past week about BSR/WSR being used
	as a factor in Taiwan's politics.

	For all my life, I believe I has never been influenced of any
	of my decisions due to BSR/WSR and I sense most of my friends
	and people I know have also been free of such prejudices (probably
	not their parents). Since I have heard more and more analysis on
	political trends and turnouts based on this factor, it is upsetting
	to me that maybe I was too naive in the past.

	I feel people would be more inclined to buy-in such analysis 
	and, in the long run, eventually create more distrusts among people.
	I sure hope people can sense this problem and not let politicans
	get away of inciting distrust among people in order to obtain power.

	Though I have low reagrds to current Taiwan governor, for
	once, I will support him to be the Premier mainly because he is
	BSR in hope that can smooth the unity of BSR/WSR. I won't feel
	proud of being a Taiwanese for now. 

Yung-Kao Hsu
From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li)
Subject: Re: A thought on Mainlanders' Attitude
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:19:07 GMT


In article <1993Jan12.152801.15464@cs.brown.edu>, mtl@cs.brown.edu writes...
>
>	IMO, cross-posting is the way some people (some people, not all of them) 
>	do to show Taiwan and Hong Kong are part of China.
> 
>	It is NOT wrong but it is not very polite.

May I say prohibiting cross-posting is the way some people to show Taiwan, HK, 
and China are not related to each other. IMO, this remains to be determined.

Even Taiwan is not part of China, anyone interested in SCT still can post. 
We people from Taiwan are open-minded, right?
From: jackw@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jack Wu)
Subject: Re: Is TI so rossy?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:11:50 GMT

In article <C0JIAJ.Ap@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes: 
>Who caused the problem is not as important as how to solve the problem.
>Taiwan is holding unification as hostage, in excuse of CCP, and refuses
>contact with mainland. This may cause  Chinese people disaster, if not managed
>carefully, given some nation are taking advantage of the situation.
                  -----------
Sounds like a CCP's propaganda. I guess your SOME NATION is implying
the Red China. Wake up, jerk. Only the CCP wants to take advantage from
both Hong-Kong and Taiwan. Tell your CCP the unification is already dead
after Tianman Square Massacre. Only jerks like you will believe them.




Jack Wu
From: mikemo@han.Tymnet.COM (Mike Mo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Chong1 Guang3 broadcast (Was Re: Excellence, Made in Taiwan)
Summary: tips on SW receivers
Keywords: SW receivers
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:06:33 GMT
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)

In article <1993Jan4.233016.12410@zip.eecs.umich.edu> joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.223222.2635@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> hhwu@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (eric.wu) writes:
>>It may help if you specify the model.  I bought one and returned it 
>>the next day.  It just didn't work as well as promised.  If you have one 
>>that works or you know what will work for sure, I would like to know.  
>>Thanks.
>
>I got myself an analog tuning SW/AM/FM radio for only $17 pretax.
>It works OK. On a mail order catelog, a CASIO digital tuning SW/AM/FM
>sells for $49+$5.5(S&H). If you want more information, I can help.
>But I don't guarantee they'll work for you. :)
>
>-- Chien-Chung Chen

My 2 cents worth on SW receivers:

When buying Short wave receivers, pay attention to the

1. Selectivity of the receiver. It should be able to fine tuned so you don't get
   the adjacent channel broadcasting while you were listening to the intended
   station. (It is another story if the second station wants to interfere the
   first station with the same frequency).

2. Sensitivity of the receiver. ( To be able to receive as much station as 
   possible, sometimes it is very hard to have both quality at the same radio).

I have 4 SW receivers, price ranged from $40-$100, but they  all performed OK.
As long as you tuned in with the right station with the right time (15440 KHz
BBC program worked the best around 3-5 PM in California, 9680 KHz VOFC worked
best around 7-8 PM, etc..)

Before I forget, try external antenna for the SW receivers.  You'd amazed what
the difference it makes.  If you don't know how to build it, try the "poor man"
SW antenna by place the telephone cord around the SW radio and hold the SW 
radio's built in antenna by your fingers.  It always worked OK for me.

Happy DXing!

(~)/~)/~)    (~)/~)/~)         | mikemo@tymnet.com
 /  /  /      /  /  / /~~)     | San Jose, CA. USA
/  /  (_ o   /  /  (_(__/      | Just another Chinese in Silicon Valley
Disclaimer: My opinions are my own.  Copyleft 1993
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:16977 soc.culture.china:34428
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Why mainlanders are so mixed up?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:07:48 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

>In article <1itilpINN8oj@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>> 
>>>ROC has no will to unify under the CCP, don't you guys get it?
>> 
>> I believe fewer and fewer people dare to stand up in showing
>> their sympathy to KMT.  
>> KMT's days are countable. Sign.....
>>>>                  -----------
>> Tingli Pan    
>
Isn't that you CCP supporters want? It should be the way around, the overseas
Chinese pay sympathy to the mainlanders, isn't it! 
 
But, with so many CCP supporters and CCP hard core members on SCC, the overseas 
Chinese are too weak to help. You guys made a choice, deserve it. I wish I am
a KMT so I can save you, but sorry I am not and my hands can not reach you.
From: ryin@frx748.intel.com (ryin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: test
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:32:15 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA


  Hi, test 1 2 3.

  - Russell
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: IPS: Democracy Comes of Age
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:21:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.125757.4237@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:

>	** After seeing the spectacular fight among Guo2 Dai4
>	   on Jan 8, I am just laughing at this so called
>	   democracy. 

The problem is that it's not really a democracy yet.  If it were, you wouldn't
be seeing these fights.

It's the buildup of the Chinese historical past, where force was everything,
that caused the mentality that fisticuffs could solve problems in the National
Assembly.
>
>	   Election is just a disguise of other forms of dictatorship.

Hmmm.  "Dictatorship of the proletariat"? :-)

It might very well be.  But it certainly gives more voice to the people than
monarchy.
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