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From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Imperial Fleet
Date: 24 Jan 1993 09:49:33 GMT
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In article <1jtemsINNd60@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon) writes:
>
>I was under the impression that the *ONLY* Imperial spacecraft were as follows:
>
>1. Super Star Destroyer
>2. Star Destroyer(standard)
>3. TIE Fighter(standard flat-wing style)
>4. Interceptor TIE fighter.
>5. Darth Vader TIE fighter(unique).
>6. Ship-to-ship(assumtion on my part) shuttle (seen in tESB)
>7. Imperial Shuttle (seen in RotJ)
>
>
>If there are others(at least, according to the movies, the RPG's aren't, in my
>opinion, valid arguements), please let me know.

	8. TIE Bomber (seen in TESB)
	9. Death Star (okay, that's stretching it a bit, I know)

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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: Darth Vadar
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:27:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.155409.19895@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill) writes:
|> BTW, "Dark Lord of Hoth" is pretty far fetched. You might have heard "Dark
|> Lord of the Sith."
|> 
Here we go with one of those "I bet it's in the FAQ" questions, so bear
with me.

Can anyone tell me where this Sith place is? I remember hearing the name
but I can't remember if we were ever told what it referred to.

And you're right, he was never called the Dark Lord of Hoth. The Damn Cold
Lord of Hoth perhaps :-)

Happy Halibut VI

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From: drue@citi.umich.edu (Chris Tanis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Harrison Ford Movies
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:39:42 GMT
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--------

>Well, I can remember the following, but it ain't a definitive full list:

> American Graffiti
> Star Wars
> Hanover Street (I think?)
> Raiders of the Lost Ark
> The Empire Strikes Back
> Witness
> Blade Runner
> Indiana Jones and the Temple of Toom
> Return of the Jedi
> Working Girl
> Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
> Presumed Innocent (and the forgettable mystery thriller before that)
> Regarding Henry
> Patriot Games

>I think I only remembererd the good ones :-)

>I wanna add the "Guns of Navarone" (sp?) but I am not sure it it is correct.

Hanover Street yes.
Force 10 from Navarone (Guns of Navarone starred Gregory Peck and Anthony
                        Quinn...among others).
-- 
Chris Tanis
drue@ifs.umich.edu 
Center for Information Technology Integration
The University of Michigan      Ann Arbor, MI  48103
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings?????? why?????
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:01:29 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

<GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> You're wrong on one of your points though.  Ships can be and are tracked whil
> in hyperspace.  Vader and Tarkin track the Millenium Falcon to the Yavin base
> during it's jaunt through hyperspace with the newly rescued Princess Leia.
> 
>                                                  --Eric

Only because of the planting of a homing mechanism.  I think he meant 
that a bare ship can't be tracked.


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From: Michael_Hilgers@k.maus.de (Michael Hilgers)
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Subject: Re: Harpoons ??
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 23:48:00 GMT
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In an article GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu (Eric ...?) writes:

G>I thought the rear seated man was the gunner.  That is, he operated all
G>of the speeder's artillery including the harpoon.  After Dack gets
G>fried, does Luke's speeder fire any weapons?  If not, then it's a safe
G>bet that the front man is only a pilot while the rear man is in control
G>of the weapons.
G>
G>                                                             --Eric

I just looked it up. After loosing Dack Luke does not fire any shots. He says
twice "I'll cover for you", once for Wedge and once for Howie. But he isn't
seen in any firing situation. So it doesn't proove anything. It could be or
not.

Michael
Cologne, Germany
Michael_Hilgers@K.maus.de
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Harpoons ??
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:51:16 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong) writes:

> 	Doesn't AT-AT stand for something like "All Terrain Armoured
> Transport"? Like an APC or something? Are they supposed to be used in ground
> assaults like that on Hoth? (If AT-ATs are like APC, what the hell's a MBT
> gonna look like?)
> 
> =============================================================================
> " There's nothing dumber in the world than a man with an erection. "
> 				- Borric, Prince of the Blood.
> 
> Hadoken! -Ken

AT-AT stands for "All Terrain Attack Transport."


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From: jcb55284@dcl-nxt30 (Jeffrey C Barcalow)
Subject: Info on the "official" announcement of the first 3 movies wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:23:49 GMT

A few months ago I read a post in this newsgroup that said there would be an
"official" announcement of movies I-III sometime in January or February.  I
believe it was supposed to be in a comic book or magazine.  Could someone
please either repost the info or email it to me?

Thanks in advance,
Jeff Barcalow
jcb55284@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Hyperspace
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:00:06 -0000
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In article <1993Jan14.085525.21274@leland.Stanford.EDU> karlmarx@leland.Stanford.EDU (Karl Wilhelm Brown) writes:
>[Stuff on H-space theory deleted]

	That's what I thought. So that means that the craft could be 
travelling at a ridiculously slow speed, (55 mph?) and still end up "going
faster than light" in real space? And does H-space have to be black? Could
it be purple or something? And just what is likely to be in H-space? Any
possibilty of creatures, derilict ships, maybe even planets? Now...
	Obviously, stuff in the 3-D world is 3-D, and stuff in the 2-D
world is 2-D, etc. That would mean that stuff in the H-space world (dimension)
would have to be a sort of "H-Space-D" So is that how a H-space drive works?
By converting your ship, people, space-junk round a field into something more
than 3-D so that you can flit round in H-space? Just some miscellanous 
blatherings.

==============================================================================
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				- Borric, Prince of the Blood.

Hadoken! -Ken
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Darth Vadar
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:58:56 GMT
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richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter) writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.155409.19895@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill) writes:
>|> BTW, "Dark Lord of Hoth" is pretty far fetched. You might have heard "Dark
>|> Lord of the Sith."
>|> 
>Here we go with one of those "I bet it's in the FAQ" questions, so bear
>with me.

>Can anyone tell me where this Sith place is? I remember hearing the name
>but I can't remember if we were ever told what it referred to.

I'm pretty sure that Sith is just sort of a descriptive term used by the
writers...  It is like caling a vampire the "Dark Lord of the Night" or
something like that...  Sith just seems to connote a dark, evil place...

I don't remember Sith really being mentioned in the movies at all...  Perhaps
the writers just made it up... it sure sounds neater to say "Here comes
DV, the Dark Lord of Sith" than to just say, here comes DV...a

keith

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From: hooks@bluemoon.use.com (Charyl Perry)
Subject: Re: Quotes Poll
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:49:11 EST

cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:

> hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Christopher Hofle) writes:
> 
> 
> >Hey everyone!  Just thought of something the other day --
> >It would be pretty cool to have some sort of poll on this newsgroup
> >where everyone sends in their favorite quote, comeback, putdown or
> >smart-ass remark from the Trilogy (only one per user) and then
> >compile the list after X days and declare the winners. (Those quotes
> >receiving the most votes).  
> 
> >ex.  "Laugh it up fuzzball!" -- Han -- TESB
> 
> >I was going to offer to be the person responsible for taking in all the 
> >votes, but I don't think I'm going to have the time this semester.
> >So if anyone out there would be willing to be the organizer (have the
> >votes e-mailed to you and then count the frequency of each quote), 
> >this should be interesting.
> 
> >Just a thought.
> 
> >Andy
> 
>    I like the idea. I might actually have the time to do it also. This isn't
> necessarily admitting I want to do it, but if enough people respond to this
> post for me to do it, well then....
> 
> Cory Padfield
> cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> 

I think this is a GREAT plan.  Count me in!  We should vote for:

Best Leia comeback, Best Hannerism, Fave quote from each movie, etc.


 This is from
     hooks@bluemoon.use.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Hyperspace and the Death Star
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:39:39 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

athas@buphy.bu.edu (Gregory Athas) writes:

>This has nagged me for a while, and since I'm 1000 miles from my copy
>of ANH (novelization);  If we assume that the falcon escaped by going
>into hyperspace to get to Yavin, and it was tracked by the imperials
>(details of this have been a continuing thread here) can the Death
>Star go into hyperspace?  Otherwise it would have probably been a
>myserably long journy to Yavin.  So how much time did the rebels have
>until they would become interstellar dust?  The movie gives the
>impression of not too many hours.

I think the first thing that needs to looked at is what was accomplished 
in this time frame: Luke joined the Alliance as an X-wing pilot.  While I 
don't know all the rituals/requirements involved in becoming a pilot, I'm 
sure it took more than a couple of hours.  They probably had at least a 
week or two, which would give them enough time to prepare for the arrival 
of the Death Star, but not enough time to relocate.  My guess would be 
that the DS would have limited hyperspace abilities (either travel at a 
slower speed or have to make the trip in short "jumps", and then, having 
arrived, would need time to "recharge", which may explain why they didn't 
just quickly move into a line of fire with Yavin, but rather waited until 
the orbit carried them within firing range).

Just some thoughts... Please correct me if I've assumed too much. :)


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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:14:49 GMT


	The correct dialogue in Jedi is this:

Ben:	You were our only hope.
Luke:	Yoda spoke of another.
Ben:	The other he spoke of was your twin sister.

	Obviously, Luke was assuming that the "other hope" that
Ben was talking about was the same person as the "other
Skywalker" that Yoda referred to.  While this may seem arrogant,
it seems to be the case, since Ben doesn't correct him.

							-Quinn
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:21:54 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Wedge's relative owned R2?

>think that the droids' last owner was killed/captured when the "diplomatic"
>ship was captured (damn--forgot its name) at the beginning of SW.

  The Blockade Runner TANTIVE IV.
From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Imperial Fleet
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:32:49 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
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In <16B61CD93.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> mason writes:

> In article <1k1ej5INNe1k@gap.caltech.edu>
> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>  
> >cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:
> >
> >>   According to the Star Wars role-playing game, there are four Super Star
> >>   Destroyers, one of which is the Executor. There are about 25,000 Star
> >>   Destroyers.... wow, I never really knew that. I'm not sure how canon
> >>   you consider this source, but it is roughly correct.
> >
> >This almost cannot be correct.  We see almost the entire Imperial fleet
> >in Jedi.  You see them all...  probably a hundred at most.
> >If there were many others sread throughout the galaxy,
> >the Rebels wouldn't be so happy about defeating the fleet at Endor.
>  
> The Empire, as the government in power, is at a considerable disadvantage
> in respect to the deployment of its fleet.  The Imperial Navy is forced
> to commit well over half the fleet to defensive positions.  The Alliance,
> operating in secret, is at an advantage in that it has far fewer production
> facilities to defend, no known military installations, and no civillian
> population to protect/terrorize.  In addition, the Empire has pirates and
> smugglers to contend with.  The Imperial presence at Endor, assuming it
> included every available vessel, could not have numbered more than 1/2
> to 1/3 of the Imperial Fleet.  And I think that's being generous.
>  
> 25,000 star destroyers might be a bit much, but a hundred is WAY too few.
> The Alliance wasn't really cheering about the destruction of the Imperial
> Fleet as much as they were the destruction of the Death Star and the
> death of the Emperor.  They were still looking at years of war with minor
> admirals and regional governors, but the hard part was over.

Who knows? The Death Star and the Super Star Destroyer were destroyed, as where
a great number of Star Destroyers. Still, there's no reason why the Empire
should have lost more than its leader, its main battle station and a couple of
Star Destroyers. We just don't know how many Imperial ships there "really"
are. Looks like we'll have to wait 20 years for the answer.
  
> -- mason

MARCU$
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars comics
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:36:38 GMT

Are these new comics going to continue the $2.50+ trend?
Dark Horse has no qualms about screwing SW fans over a few
times...

Classic Re-Hash certainly doesn't warrant that hefty price
tag! The first original series was original and was at least
well painted and very glossy (TOO glossy -- I'd rather have 
something less expensive that doesn't hold fingerprints!!!),
but for CSW there's no excuse.

At least Marvel put them out for $0.35 and you got Carmine
Infantino and Terry Austin! *sigh* the Good Old Days!

Scott

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From: abaker@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Evil One)
Subject: Re: Silly Rumour
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:29:30 GMT

In article <mtrebel1-210193114052@mac13.trotter1.swarthmore.edu> mtrebel1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matt Trebelhorn) writes:
>Is there anything to the rumour that a potato and a tennis shoe appear in
>the rebel armada at the end of ROTJ?
>We recently watched it in our dorm and a friend mentioned this rumour,
>which we weren't able to confirm.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>==Matt

Someone told me that you can see the sole of a tennis shoe, faintly, 
cockpit of one of the rebel fighters, but it could have been cut out of the 
Pan and Scan version.  I don't know I have yet to really look for it.
I hadn't heard anything about a potato though.

The Evil One
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: New Star Wars comics
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:21:40 GMT
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Be on the lookout for these new Star Wars comics...

- Star Wars: Dark Empire collection in April
- A six-part preview of Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi beginning in the
	April issue (#15) of the Dark Horse Insider
- A prequel to Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi in issues #7-9 of Dark
	Horse Comics
- The October premire of the five-issue Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi
	mini-series.

Also Classic Star Wars #8 will come bagged with a limited edition
Topps trading card, which will not be in the new Topps series. It's a
card of Boba Fett and Dengar.

-- 
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
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From: barnabas@terapin.com (Colin Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars Figures
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:50:48 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <20JAN93.11100017@wums.wustl.edu>, w95_cook@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>I returned home from class yesterday to find three large
>boxes from UPS on the doorstop.  It appears my parents were
>cleaning out the basement and packed up all of my old Star Wars
>toys, including about 45 figures!
>
>Going through these last night, I was amazed to find several
>figures I couldn't identify!  Can anyone help me with the 
>names of the following:
>
>1) The blue medical droid (The one who sewed Luke's hand back on)
>2) The round headed droid with about 8 white plastic arms
>3) A person I believe was a bounty hunter wearing a brown suit,
>       with a bandaged head and a large, built-in backpack.  Was
>       this "Bossk"?  If not, who was Bossk?
>4) The guy from Bespin with the computer built into his bald head
>5) A man in a white suit with orange goggles and an orange and
>   white helmet.
>6) Someone in an Imperial Admiral's uniform.  Was this Grand Moff
>       Tarkin?
>7) I was also amazed to find both a black and white version of
>       the Bespin gaurds.  I didn't remember the black version
>       being made.
>
>
>Also, if I were to ever decide to go into collecting these things
>again, where would I look to find more, whether entirely new and
>boxed, or just loose figures?
>
>Thanks!
>
>JC
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>
>Jim Cook
>W95_COOK@wums.wustl.edu
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>
Sounds like a good reason to watch the trilogy again! :)
From: lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca (Bradley Larsen u)
Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:50:32 GMT

The Rebel Alliance must have run into the AT-AT's before.  Recall from the
movie when the trench officer uses his binoculars??? to spot the oncoming
Walkerrs? His reply to the base is something like "We spotted Imperial
walkers." 

Brad Larsen
lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca
From: ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu (cartoon boy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW on gameboy-HELP!
Date: 24 Jan 1993 19:56 CST
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In article <1993Jan22.141604.18127@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes...
>In <C18qGL.BwA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rku45136@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajiv Udani) writes:
> 
>>Does anybody out there know how to cheat on the Star Wars game for
>>Gameboy. It's just too hard (and my powers of the Force are limited).
> 
>>thanks
>>rajiv
> 
>I didn't know there was a game boy version.  I played the nes version for the
>first time last weekend and found it to be impossible.  I couldn't get Luke to
>successfully jump across a part of the sandcrawler.  I had to eventually give
>up.  As to the game boy, you might try the new game boy game genie.  It works
>on most games I hear.
> 

that's odd, because i find it impossible to jump across a part of the game boy
sandcrawler (and also in the cave with the creatures that look like slimer
from ghostbusters).  i just grab two shields, head to Mos Eisley, ditch Han,
and get in the Falcon.  of course, i bite it in the Alderaan Asteroid Field.


just a few random thoughts from thomas, aka ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu

"This could be painful."  -what went through my mind as i was going at High 
Speeds downhill on a 3-speed bike when i noticed both the sharp curves ahead 
and that my rear tire had chosen that moment to go flat.

"Ouch." -what i said a few moments later.

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