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From: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter)
Subject: [386BSD] System hangs 
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:34:38 GMT

Hi People !
First I wanna thank all of you who helped me getting my mouse to work, getting
my X to work etc. !

But now I have a big Problem: When I try to compile big C-files the system
hangs permanently. Also it hangs if the load begins to increase (in X windows).
There's no error message. Is there any patch to solve this problem ? I
installed all 58 patches from terry. Are there any new patches which could
solve this problem ?

Another Problem is: how to make a backup. I tried to use tar, but tar can't
create the file /dev/log. Is there any other way ? (Do I need /dev/log ?)

Please answer by email.
Thanx in advance,
		 Udo
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: jdevries@apple.com (Jeff DeVries)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 311 MB ESDI drive & cntlr w/386BSD $450/$100
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:59:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

Yeah, I know this isn't a "for sale" group, but since I have 386BSD
(w/source,XFree86) already installed on this drive, I thought someone 
in this group might be interested...

HP-97536E ESDI Disk
  311 MB formatted capacity
  12 heads, 1583 cylinders
  17 ms average seek time
  5.25 inch, full-height
Asking $450

DTC 6282-24 ESDI Controller
  ISA bus (i.e. IBM PC or clones)
  16 bit
  1-1 interleave
  Can control two drives, plus two floppies
  64K cache
  Hard Drive Bible says, "...best performing, best buy ISA ESDI controller"
Asking $100

Jeff DeVries
jdevries@apple.com
(408) 736-7531
Xref: sparky comp.unix.bsd:8785 comp.os.minix:4761 comp.os.linux:16484
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.minix,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Floppy overrun/underrun messages...what does it mean?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:10:52 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

bselling@darwin.helios.nd.edu (brian selling) writes:

> 
> I recently switched from an ESDI setup to a SCSI setup.  On reinstalling
> linux from SLS ver 0.98pl1 i got numerous floppy overrun/underrun errors...
> retrying, etc.  This happened both when I was mkefs -c -ing the drive, and
> on the install from floppies.  I don't remember this happening when I install
> on the ESDI drive.  My new controller is a Ultrastore 14F.  But everything
> seems to work in the end.  I have X and all up and running, so I guess the
> retries worked, but anyone know why I might have gotten these errors or wheth
> its serious or not?
> 

I see it all the time. All it means is that your floppy or your scsi is
fast or slow compared to the other. The error message should be more
like "I'm a floppy drive and your harddisk is so slow I'M waiting for it."
or "As harddisks go, I'm sooooo fast I do waitstates on copy from floppy."

Doesn't mean anything. (-:

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: tone@leland.stanford.edu (Tony Lin)
Subject: NNTP newsreader programming
Keywords: NNTP, network, news
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 08:33:07 GMT

Hi everyone!  I am trying to update my newsreader so that it would be
able to connect to our NNTP news server from another machine.  I have
read RFC 977, but am not sure how to use that.  I am new to network
programming, and am looking for any source code from existing
newsreaders, code fragments on how to connect to another machine, and tips
or suggestions.  Does anyone know where I can get more information?
Have any of you written a newsreader like rn?  Please e-mail responses
directly to me (tone@leland.Stanford.EDU).  Thanks.

					Tony
From: fmayhar@altair.mpd.tandem.com (Frank Mayhar)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Help!  I can't change baudrate on /dev/com1 with stty!
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:14:27 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

Well, I've started my install, this weekend.  Everything went swimmingly
with the disks, putting a 201 MB partition on my WD IDE drive (along with
a 1 MB DOS partition), and installing from the dist.fs diskette.  But.

The rest of the distribution is sitting on my Sun at work, and the only
feasible way to get it home is via modem.  Fine, the installation notes
cover this contingency.  I do the tip /dev/com1, suspend it, and try to
change the speed with stty.  No joy.  The speed is stubbornly stuck at
9600, and I can't change it to talk to my modem.

I look in the buglist, and lo and behold, bug PROG005 says "The stock stty
in the bin01 distribution is unable to set the baud rate correctly."  I can
only assume that the version in dist.fs has the same problem.  The recommended
solution is a recompile, but I just can't get there from here.  I tried the
stty on the floppy and the stty on cgd's new-bootables dist.fs, from agate.
Neither worked even slightly.

So does anyone have a working stty executable they would be willing to make
available for anonymous ftp?  (Or just uuencode it and mail it to me, that
would work as well.)  I'm stuck until I get this fixed.

Thanks in advance, whoever you are that bails me out.  Email responses
preferred, obviously.
-- 
Frank Mayhar  fmayhar@mpd.tandem.com
              Tandem Computers, Inc.  Micro Products Division
              14231 Tandem Blvd., Austin, TX  78728    Phone:  (512) 244-8969
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: reny@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Yong Ren)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: 386BSD or LINUX?
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:50:09 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

>As the subject heading says, which is it? Which is the better,more
>supported operating system (I know I'm going to get a lot on this
>one!)
>...

I have used both systems; at home, I have Linux installed on a
35 Meg partition of a 40M disk, and this is including X386 and TeX! (7M free)
At work, I have to use 386BSD to connect to the ethernet since Linux
cannot do it over a 3com (yet). The overall impression is that if you
don't need networking and don't have a personal preference between
bsd and sysv, go Linux. My personal experience is that 
a lot of programs compile and run (with minimal port) under Linux
easily, but not so under 386BSD (a real mystery to me). I have
never succeeded in keeping 386BSD and DOS peacefully on the same
IDE drive, they are constantly destroying each other's partition
table while this is not a problem with Linux. My 386BSD crashes
once in a while, my linux hasn't got a single crash yet. The biggest
headache about Linux is it develops too fast and I am really tired
of catching up with the current patches since a lot of them are 
dealing with problems people have with other types of machine.

reny
From: wutcd@chemnitz.guug.de (Joerg Wunsch)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: where is /dev/lp for 386bsd?
Keywords: /dev/lp , 386bsd
Date: 7 Nov 92 14:19:04 GMT
Organization: tu-chemnitz

The driver is named lpt, but several hacks are needed; at least some
problems have been reported on different machines. You must configure
it, then remake a kernel.

	J"org
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: yeoy@a.cs.okstate.edu (YEO YEK CHONG)
Subject: File etc01.37 corrupt
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:26:22 GMT

Hello Netters,

	"File etc01.37 corrupt" appeared while I was extracting etc01.  Does
anyone has the same problem?  Kindly point me to the correct patch if it 
already exist.  Suggestions please.  

ps: The file is from agate and I have tried downloading it twice and also tried
    downloading manifest twice too.

Yeo...
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: BSD for a 386
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:23:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.004009.27330@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>Charles E Newman (newman@netcom.com) wrote:


>: versions tipically take 120 megs of disk space. At least that is what it takes
>: on a VAX

>With 60Mbyte you can have all the usual BSD distribution + XFree86 + xview.

This is with the *binaries only*; this will *not* hold the sources or etc01
distributions. Any prospects of applying patches is gone.

I'm using a 68MB drive, and only selectively extracting things from 
etc01. Maybe with an RLL controller and a second drive....

-- 
Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"...I looked out my window, and saw Kyle Pettys' car upside down, then I
thought 'One of us is in real trouble'." Davey Allison, re: a 150MPH crash 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: jkh@esel.lotus.com (Jordan K Hubbard)
Subject: ARGH!  Floppy access crashes my system!
Organization: Lotus Ireland
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:13:44

This just started occurring after I patched up to PL#58 (beta patch
kit). I'm using Julian's SCSI drivers with the adaptec 1742A.

Now the symptom is that any I/O I do to the floppies causes my system
to reboot (not panic, not wedge, but RESET) shortly after the floppy
I/O in question has completed.  E.g.:

# mdir B:
(see contents of floppy B perfectly fine)
# (2 second pause during which nothing is touched... RESET).

The funny thing is, I saw this once before and managed to "fix" it simply
by cleaning and remaking the world.  This no longer works.

HELP!  I use mtools on floppies as a major "small stuff" transport
medium and I'm now hosed.  I also can't use this kernel on a fixit
floppy since that floppy will then never boot (I've tried this, just
to see how extensive the problem is).

					Jordan
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Need help installing 386BSD on EISA/SCSI 486DX2/50
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:44:04 GMT


OK, it's my third 386BSD installation but this time it didn't go
smoothly.  This time it is on a (as the subject line says) Gateway
2000 EISA 486DX2/50 with 16 MB RAM, UltraStor Ultra 24F SCSI host
adaptor, and Maxtor 340SY 340 MB drive.

With its default (as shipped) configuration, I made a 162 MB MS-DOS
partition and when I booted the dist.fs floppy the hard drive wasn't
detected.  Reading through the trusty Gateway 2000 owner's manual,
I saw some instructions for configuring the system for SCO, ISC, and
AT&T UNIX.  It said I should have the following settings:  

	host adaptor: enabled 
	BIOS address C8000 
	IRQ 14 
	ISA mode selection: primary
	drive mapping mode: 16 hd, 63 sctr, 2 drv

(And of course I have "no drives" in my CMOS setup.)  I tried these
settings and dist.fs recognized the UltraStor.  I was able to install
386BSD as usual, but it wouldn't boot from the hard drive.  It keeps
going into that reboot loop.  (One time I even got a message saying
to hit the reset button.)

OK, I glanced through a list of supported SCSI controllers and didn't
see this controller mentioned, but many controllers act like supported
ones and my results with dist.fs lead me to believe that this controller
will work.  I don't have access to this machine on a regular basis, so
I'd appreciate any help I can get before I give it another try.  I have
some specific questions, but I'll listen to just about any suggestion.

- My system at home is fully patched.  Should this take care of it?

- Since it is EISA, will it need any special patches?

- Is anyone else running 386BSD on this same type of system?  If so,
  should I expect to experience more problems?
 
A general question:

- How can I make my own dist.fs?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson  |  "I don't need a signature, I need a job!"
* ujlh@sunyit.edu      |  BSCS, December 1992
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: vikki@e40-008-11.MIT.EDU (Vikki King)
Subject: Anyone w/386bsd NNTP server??
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:08:17 GMT

Hi Everyone:

	Is there anyone out there who is using their 386bsd box as an NNTP
server?  I have been trying to do this for awhile now but am not having a
lot of success.  I can get the server stuff for the nntp.1.5.11 distrib
to build but it doesn't work correctly.  The first problem that it seems
to be having is with it's checking of available disk space before allowing
a client to use the server.  I get errors on the console from nntpd saying
that it is failing to open /dev/wd0a.  If I try to cat wd0a, I get a device
busy error.  However, I can cat /dev/rwd0a ok.  Do I need to hack the server
to read /dev/rwd0a?  I think I can but I don't know if /dev/rwd0a will give
the nntpd space checking code information in the correct format.
	If there is anyone who has already gone through this and triumphed,
I'd be indebted to you for any tips or diffs :-)  Thanks for any help that
anyone can provide!

-John
jackson@a1.mec.mass.edu or vikki@athena.mit.edu
From: dhess@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Drew William Hess)
Subject: [386BSD] Problems booting on Gateway 4DX2-66V
Keywords: 386 bsd boot problems gateway local bus
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:47:07 GMT

Okay, no answers to my previous post, so I'll try again.

I'm having problems getting my Gateway 4DX2-66V to recognize the Tiny BSD
boot diskette.  After formatting and rawriting the dist.fs image to a 3.5"
floppy, I reboot the system, but nothing ever happens.  The A: drive 
never reads the Tiny BSD boot disk.  I have also tried the patched dist.fs
image in unofficial/newbootables/cgd/ to no avail.  I have slowed the system
down to 8MHz during boot to see if this corrected the problem, but it didn't.

This is a Micronics VL-Bus motherboard, so maybe it's just too different from
standard ISA bus systems for 386BSD to work, but has anyone gotten 386BSD
working with a similar system?

Thanks in advance,

-dwh-
dhess@cs.stanford.edu
From: witke@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marius Witke)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: booting from second hard disk
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:27:08 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sand.cs.tu-berlin.de


Hi,

I want to use my whole second drive for 386bsd. Recently I found
a tool that enables me to select a partition from first OR second
drive to boot from.
So I wonder if it is possible to boot 386bsd from second drive ---
and if not: is somebody working on a solution ?
Is 'boot the first drive and mount the second one' the only
alternative ?

Thanks in advance,
			Marius.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: CDROM for 386bsd (Re: ftp software inc, their address is...)
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:32:52 GMT

Alan W Black (awb@ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: I suppose the whole question comes down to whether there are enough
: people out there that would be willing to buy a CDROM set up for
: (almost exclusive) use on 386bsd (and Linux).  I suppose
: eventually this will be the case but I'll just have to wait for
: the time being.
: 
I have thought about it for so long. The effort to establish a new format is
not much because we can just copy a hard-disk image to the CDROM.

The most important is to optimise the utilisation of the CDROM. Being a 
read only memory system, the McIntosh FS is better in being an extent based,
but it is too far away form 386bsd.
	Maybe a slightly modified bsd FFS, can be used, with a few options:

i) large block sizes, e.g. 32kbyte so that we can put 320k without any
indirect inode pointers. Larger than this will cause too much fragmentation,
because a fragment size of 1k will not be able to fill in the gaps.
	This method is attractive because there is no modification to 386bsd
FFS,

ii) Change it slightly to use extent based FS. I've no idea how difficult it
will be.


How much does it cost extra to use a new format?
Given that a 386bsd CDROM is meant for 386bsd, there is little to be gained by
using ISO9960(?). However the CDROM driver for 386bsd is only meant for
Adaptec 1542 SCSI controller? I will not be able to use it!

Maybe it is still safest to use ISO9960, at least I can use DOS to transfer
files.
--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: Ported software list.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:54:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.134110.20932@rtpnc.epa.gov> fty@bizarre.rtpnc.epa.gov (Frank Terhaar-Yonkers) writes:
>Is anyone else having a problem?  I show 750 accesses to this archive in the 
>past two months and no other complaints ...
>
>- Frank
>
>In article <1992Nov9.145903.19244@autelca.ascom.ch>, nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt) writes:
>spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards) writes:
>
>>Well I've started on a ported software list. I wouldn't even call this a
>>first draft. It's really so we can decide if the format's right and get
>>people to start making submissions. If you've ported any software to
>>386bsd then fill in the form below and mail it to me. If you think there
>>should be other fields in the form then let me know. 
>
>First, thanks for this list.
>
>[ other packages deleted - NB. ]
>
>>---------
>>PACKAGE: XS3
>>---------
>>Description:	X server for the S3 chipset (very similar to the
>>		8514/a)
>>Status:		
>>Maintained by:	Primary: Amancio Hasty
>>		Secondary: 
>>OS version:	
>>Installed at ref.tfs.com: 
>>Available from: sunvis.rtpnc.epa:/pub/386bsd/incoming
>Is somebody really able to access this host ?
>From Europe it is NOT possible. Except for one directory listing of
>pub/386bsd/incoming (and, believe it or not: XS3 is NOT in this directory)
>I couldn't get anything from this before the ftp-server crashes etc.
>>Requires: 
>S3 VGA board, of course.
>>Notes:
>ftp-server seems to be very flakey. I tried several other hosts in the states
>without any problem. But this one: unreachable at best, sorry.
>
>I would really like to run this server, but can't for obvious reasons.
>BTW: How big is the XS3 server, if I am able to connect to ref.tfs.com, someday.
>
>Norbert Bladt.
>-- 
Hi,
Where will you like for me to place XS3 that is convenient for you
to access?

As for the size is about 900K uncompressed and 540K compressed...

Amancio
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
Subject: Re: mountd/portmap/NFS problem
Organization: Weber State University  (Ogden, UT)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 20:56:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.181052.10725@u.washington.edu> ganter@carson.u.washington.edu (Mark Ganter) writes:
>terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
>
>>Install the NFS and mount patches at the very least.  You seem to be running
>>into the overlap and reserved port problems.
>
>Terry & Luigi, I had the same problem recently.  I chased it down to an
>export problem on the file system thatbsd was trying to mount.  My memory
>on the net says "386bsd doesn't do secure NFS mount".  Is that true?  I
>changed my /etc/exports file of the "host system" from:
>
>/users    dragon
>to:
>/users
>
>and everything now works fine!  Just my $0.02 worth ...Mark

Right.  This is because the NFS when running "secure" expects "vouchsafe"
identification (ie: a connection from a reserved port to indicate the NFS
client is being run by root instead of being a user process that pretends
to be an NFS client).  The "vouchsafe" is done by ensuring the remote client
is run as root by requiring a reserved port (which only root can allocate).

There is also an "overlap" problem where you can't export both "/" and
"/usr" if they aren't seperate file systems.

In theory, these are both fixed with the patchkit (works for me, anyway).
There's also some AIX 3.2 client stuff that's a pretty bizarre
interpretation of the RFC's, but this only applies to allowing remote
mounts by AIX 3.2 boxes  of partitions exported from 386BSD.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
					terry_lambert@novell.com
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From: murray@its.uct.ac.za (Mark Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: How to do a full backup and restore?
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:12:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: its.murray.4.721559523
Organization: University of Cape Town

Hello All!

This is a perplexing question. How do I backup my filesystem so that ALL 
files are stored, all hard links are preserved, but files are not duplicated 
because of multiple links?

Any help from net.gurus appreciated.

Mark

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: shin@nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Shin YOSHIMURA)
Subject: Re: has anyone ported epoch(x-oriented emacs) ?
X-Md4-Signature: 8484a5b23f849046df562c507aaf8dba
Organization: Information Network System Operation Center, The University of
	Tokyo, Japan.
Distribution: comp.unix.bsd
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:44:48 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:30:48 GMT, hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) said:

Amancio> Well the title says it all...
Amancio> It will be nice to have epoch since we have X up and running...

I have ported Nepoch-1.0 (epoch for Japanese/KANJI) based on epoch-3.2
running on your XS3 server.  But epoch-4.x is not yet ported.

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