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From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: RE:PERFECT INTERVIEW CAST
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:40:30 GMT

	LESTAT:  JULIAN SANDS OR THAT BLONDE GUY FROM TREMORS

	LEWIS:   CHRISTIAN SLATER, JOHNNY DEPP

	CLAUDIA: THE GIRL WHO PLAYED WEDNESDAY IN THE ADDAMS FAMILY MOVIE

	
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: kat@wpi.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
Subject: Re: Vampyres in the wood
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:47:08 GMT

In article <20173@plains.NoDak.edu> bohlman@plains.NoDak.edu (Daemon) writes:

>BTW, I'm dying to know what you all think about the possibility of a movie
>based on the 'Vampire Chronicles' by Ann Rice...  (Yes, one is in the works, but
>the wheels of Hollywood grind slow...  ..unless properly greased. ;>= )
>
>Volume Four is scheduled to be released sometime this fall or next spring.
>

A movie? Really?  I'll be first in line for that!  I've heard that Volume Four
is due out in October.  Lestat is back again.  

kat
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      Christina Freeman                                 kat@wpi.wpi.edu
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         there are these evil little men that are plotting against me."
                           - Adam Adams, 1992
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: adelekta@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Re: PENTOGRAMS GOOD OR BAD?
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:11:39 GMT

On the subject of pentagrams:
 The distinction of the "upside-down" pentagram (i.e. two points up) is, to my
knowledge, almost purely american... I've heard some British authors (Janet and
Stewart Farrar) state that in England, there is no distinction made between the
one-point-up and two-point-up pentagram.
 Pentagrams have been around for a long time in many places; it has been a
mystic sigil to the Babylonians, a symbol of the first 5 books of the bible,
and a charm for safe travel. The modern day connotations (both good and bad)
are mainly a result of Hollywood, "satanism" (both real and pseudo-heavy metal
varieties), and the modern wiccan/witchraft movement.
 
 As for their efficacy against vampires, I always thought that it was the faith
behind the symbol that was repellant to vampires, and therefor any religious
symbol would work (unless, I suppose, it was a religious vampire :)
 
anne
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: reiners@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Fiction vampire list, version 1.0
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:08:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.232625.3990@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:
>Okay.  Here's what I have gleaned so far from postings to this group and my
>own memory, which is pretty bad.  () encloses the name of a series, and the
>books that follow are meant to be the books in that series, in order.  Feel
>free to correct me.  (Re: the Saberhagen books, I'm going by John Wenn's
>listing of Fred Saberhagen books, which does not mention "Vlad" or "Tepes" at
>all.)  The questions marks are missing information...

>???
>   Vampire Tapestry

_The Vampire Tapestry_ was written by Suzy McKee Charnas.  It's a very good
book.

Paul Reiners
<reiners@iastate.edu>
From: bohlman@plains.NoDak.edu (Daemon)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampyres in the wood
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:10:57 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Sep4.095055.13794@prl.dec.com> amos@prl.dec.com (Dracula) writes:
>Do the vamypres really exist ?
>I think bats do (!), but vampyres.... I have read that some
>leave in Africa and manage to eat beefs !!
>
>
>Amos.
>.
Be careful in denying that the Vamphyri exist..

Or you'll find your local Un-Dead Rights Committee camped out in your basement
until you change your mind.

Right now they are working on getting the old vampire/mummy movies banned
because they make people believe that all un-dead are mindless killing machines.
Killers and Hunters certainly, but mindless?

BTW, I'm dying to know what you all think about the possibility of a movie
based on the 'Vampire Chronicles' by Ann Rice...  (Yes, one is in the works, but
the wheels of Hollywood grind slow...  ..unless properly greased. ;>= )

Volume Four is scheduled to be released sometime this fall or next spring.


"You were a vampire and I may never see the light..."
  -- 'BloodLetting' -- Concrete Blonde
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From: cs318b31@ibma8.cs.uiuc.edu (HEM SATSANGI)
Subject: Re: Nosferatu: The Vampyre?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:34:45 GMT

In <1992Sep11.195444.27664@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:

>In article <xntnnsa.despair@netcom.com> despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson) writes:
>>In article <something> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>>>	Anyone know how to get a hold of the remake of Nosferatu - 
>>
>>It is noticibly different from the silent version (The clubfoot orchestra's
>>alternate soundtrack is highly recommended, especially live)
>
>Is this available anywhere?  The soundtrack on the video is lame, to
>say the least.
>
>>This is an incredibly delightful film.  It did not survive the transition to
>>videotape well, which answeres your question.  It is officially released, but
>>with poor quality.  This was at least a year and a half ago.  The poor
>>quality is apparently due to the use of a print played a considerable amount.
>
>Are you taking about the silent version, or the remake?
>
>
>--
>            Eric Murray                 ericm@microunity.com
>In this game, the winner is also the loser, and the judge's decisions are final


From Hem Satsangi:

I read the above article and was wondering if someone knows how to get a
hold of  the remake of Nosforatu.  I believe that it is from the 70's,
but in no way am I sure about that.

    Thanks,
    	   Hem
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:15:03 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampyre anime

Vampire Princess Miyu? Depressing isn't quiet the right word. Background:
show is set in Japan, natch, and is framed as a series of intersections of a
spiritualist, Himiko, a traditionally-dressed young girl of deeply weird nature
who claims to be a vampire (supported by her very own bodyservant, quiet guy
named Larva), and various demonic types refered to by the generic term "Shinma"
a invented word connoting godlike demons or demonic gods. The tone is very,
eldritch is not quite  the term, almost Carmilla-ish. There is a certain moral
abiguity(sp, sorry) throughout the series. Creepy, intellectually slippery, and
cerebral, it's a far cry from Vampire Hunter D, which seems to have more in
common with Die Hard than Dracula. Enough with the propaganda. It's released in
the US subbed by Animeigo, in two $40 vhs tapes, or one $60 LD(not sure). Local
video chain might have it, but not likely.

Mitch                    Quest Labs: Making The World a Better Place
Quest Laboratories                          to
Terraforming Division                    Dominate
State College, Pa
cmh114@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: eddie@hermes.oit.unc.edu (Edward M. Averett)
Subject: Books which included vampires
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:57:46 GMT

John M. Ford's "The Dragon Waiting" includes one of my favorite representations
of vampires. Apparently a definite must for this crowd.  

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash)
Subject: Re: PENTOGRAMS GOOD OR BAD?
Keywords: good or evil?
Reply-To: bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 06:30:11 GMT

In article <manz.715775298@ee.ualberta.ca>, manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett
{Druid Queen} Manz) writes:
|>In <1992Sep05.061133.5907@bnr.ca> bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash) writes:
|>
|>>In article <x_nnz7j@lynx.unm.edu>, haro@carina.unm.edu (    KANEDA) writes:
|>>|>HOLA AMIGOS!
|>>Hola, compadre.
|>>|>
|>>|>	I've got a question, are five star pentograms good or evil?
|>>|>So is the five star pentogram a protection device, or a havock causing
|>>device?
|>>|>And can it be used on Vampyers?
|>
|>>...<my descriptions of pentragrams>...
|>
|>>|>
|>>|>VERY CURIOUS
|>>|>RICK
|>>|>
|>
|>>Curiosity is the path to wisdom
|>
|>>Brian /-|-\                  
|>
|>  Your treatment of pentagrams comes from a very Christian background.
|>The orientation of a pentagram had little bearing until Christianlty
|>came along and started warping Pagan traditions and symbols to its
|>own ends.
|>
|>  The goat/pentagram symbolism you refer to comes from something called
|>the Baphomet.  The Baphomet is a pentagram (pointing down) with two circles
|>circumscribed, and the name Leviathan written in Hebrew at the points 
|>(in Hebrew Leviathan has only five letters.)  Often there is a goat's
|>head supraimposed beneath the pentagram.  This symbol is considerably
|>older that Christianity and the Christian concept of Satan which was
|>partially derived from the Wiccan Horned God and similar pagan deities.
|>These are what Baphomet refers to.  
|>
|>  I also take offense at your ascertation that Satanists "are not the
|>world's brightest people."  *Real Satanists don't worship the Satan
|>of Christianity, but rather the Satan that Christianity stole (the
|>pagan mascline gods.)  Try reading Anton LeVays Satanic Bible.  It
|>may surprise you a bit.
|>
|>  BTW, in case you were wondering, I am not a Satanist.  I'm a 
|>Reformed Druid.
|>  <.sig removed for space...sorry, Brett!>

Yes, my explination is Christian based:  my theology has not 
looked into Paganism (is that right?) too deeply yet.
Soon to be rectified, I assure you!
My remark was not intended to attack Paganist, I was refering to
those who worship the Christian Satan (Lord of Hell, not Pagan God)
You must admit, it is hard to refer to anything in Christianity without 
refering to another older religion : )
BTW  How does a Druid get "reformed"? (I'm serious)

PS Thanks for the info on Baphomet!  

Brian /-|-\
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Killing your neighborhood vampire
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:51:41 GMT
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA


Forcing them to read alt.bizarre and alt.flame and respond to everything.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: jdraper@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: _Rockula_, Yarbro, porphyria, and questions
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:14:41 GMT

A few thoughts on various subjects discussed so far:

One of my all-time favorite vampire movies is _Rockula_. In tone, it is 
somewhat similar to _Buffy_ but *much* funnier. I'm not saying it's great,
just very ... unique. Dean Cameron (_Summer School_, _Men at Work_) is a
400-year-old vampire virgin whose true love gets reincarnated and killed
again roughly every 22 years. Toni Basil plays his mother, and Thomas Dolby
is the girlfriend's boyfriend. Check your video store now! 

I strongly urge all of you that like Anne Rice to check out Chelsea Quinn 
Yarbro (previously mentioned but misspelled) for a taste of how vampires 
are realistically portrayed. Forget the rock star nonsense, and read some
*good* stories. Her newest one is _Out of the House of Life_.

The medical condition that might account for vampirism (and/or lycanthropy)
is porphyria, but recent studies indicate that this is probably not an
accurate theory. See _American Vampires_ (sorry, no author information -
the book's in another state) for more information. This book is also a 
source of information on people who think they really are vampires (wasn't 
someone asking about this?).

A question for anyone who thought _Near Dark_ was a great movie: How would
you describe the amount of violence in this film? I love vampire stories,
but gratuitous violence and fake blood just doesn't agree with me. A comparison
to _The Lost Boys_ (*without* giving away any major plot points, please)
would be helpful.

This may be getting a little long, but I have just one more request: Does 
anyone know any methods of becoming a vampire *without* being bitten by one?
I'm writing a story that turns on this point. I seem to remember reading 
somewhere that suicide under certain conditions can do it, but I need more
details.

Happy hunting!
Webdancer
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Subject: Re: Being made...
Reply-To: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:45:39 GMT

To kill a vampire, use the shotgun from Tremors.
That was a mean gun and it will stop anything.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Subject: Re: Killing your neighborhood vampire
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:32:19 GMT


I'd be interested it a copy of the "Ways to Kill a Vampire"...
L8R
Eric H

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From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: VAMPIRE, not "vampyres"
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:52:58 GMT

In <1992Sep8.154144.16759@ulowell.ulowell.edu> bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian E. Keener) writes:

>Just thought I'd let you know the spelling on your group is off... have a nice
>	day...

I've seen it spelled both ways.  Of course, I prefer "Nosferatu" myself...0-}


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From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Newbie Question
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:43:04 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

michaelc@oz.plymouth.edu (Mike Clark) writes:

>I recently wrote a piece of erotica as a favor to someone and it was
>to deal with vampire Fetishism....Well, I had never heard of such a
>thing, however with some research I was able to create something that
>I heard was pretty good..>Does anyone have any insite into this
>Vampire Fetishism thing they could share with a newbie??

There was recently a thread on this sort of thing in alt.sex.bondage.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Subject: (poem) Iter...
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:49:15 GMT




        Another steppe.

        Sullen rodents seek shadowed escape
        In the wake of my passing.
        Kicked up clouds of red, a drape,
        Dust the imprints of my boots.
        Sun-parched hair, a silken cape,
        Flutters, tatters in the wind.

        Another skeleton.

        Yellow orb fades lightly to red,
        Signifying day's nightly fall.
        Hunters prey where sweet scents led,
        Burying another dessicate corpse.
        Forward, staggered step to death,
        Ignoring what's past and yet to be.

        There is no dread.
 
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: cgc2646@usl.edu (Cech Claude G)
Subject: Re: Vampire rpg
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:13:42 GMT

In article <8k!zlaj@rpi.edu> battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle) writes:
>	The Vampire RPG has a novel interpretation of vampire lore.  All
>	Vampires are descendents of Cain who are forced to relive Cain's
>	sin of murder.  The Bible does mention that all Cain's progeny 
>	will bear his mark (the vampiric curse) and says *somthing* about
>	immortality.  Also, their vampires are not killed by a stake but
>	only held immobile. Holy stuff has no effect, the only ways to
>	kill them is fire, sunlight, or severe physical damage (tossing one
>	into a log mulcher!). 

You can go back a bit further, if you want:  I've seen some suggestion that
it goes back to Lillith.  (first wife of Adam, in some accounts)
					- Claude

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Vampiric human relationships
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:38:22 GMT

The sexual imagery in vampirism is quite obvious - the blood flowing
when the 'virgin' victim is bitten, biting at the throat which is
quite common during passionate kissing, the stake (a phallic symbol)
used to kill the vampire, etc..
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:04:19 EDT
From: James Klingler <JRK123@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Looking for more TRUE vamp stories

OK ... before ya all think I'm a little strange :-)

   I read a great book over the summer called "Vampires Among Us". Basically,
it had a lot of vampire folk-lore, myths, and interviews with people who said
that they were vampires. If there are any other books like this, can ya please
pass the names on to me ??? If there is enough response I'll summarize the
info I get and post it up.
   REMEMBER ... no fiction books ... just myths ... etc...


THANKS
Jim Klingler (JRK123@PSUVM.PSU.EDU)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: How 'bout some netiquette
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:24:34 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na
Keywords: netiquette 

In article <1992Sep14.022852.1006@wuecl.wustl.edu> dek2@cec2.wustl.edu (Dean E Kassmann) writes:
>i don't know how long this newsgroup has existed, i just found out about it.
>i think it is great.
>
>however, i am not trying to be all high and mighty but i think some netiquette 
>is in order.  making posts that have long headers of the article they are
>responding to and then including only a "me too" type message is absurd.  this
>takes up large amounts of disk space and money.  if you want to respond and
>the message is one that is not particularly directed to all those who read this
>group, just use email.  
>
>no more "i think so too" type messages. PLEASE  
> 
>
>-- 
>Dean Kassmann            |
> dek2@wucec1.wustl.edu   |  

I Agree!
:)
(yes, you're being too high and mighty. The volume of this group is low enough
that a few 'me toos' aren't going to hurt anybody. Go bitch at the alt.pictures.
by.the.megabyte if you wanna complain about 'large amounts of disk space and 
money')

r.
ob vamp: now come here and let me bite your damn neck. I'm hungry.
From: geck@edison.seas.ucla.edu (William Geck)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Anne Rice
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:00:43 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <oeeeCzi00WBO44CTFU@andrew.cmu.edu> cs65+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chiara Noelle Sposato) writes:
> 
...
>"The Witching Hour" was excelent (IMO) i really liked the look into the
>orgaization of the talmaska (phonetic spelling--i forget how it is
>
...
>chiara

I don't totally agree.  I thought "The Witching Hour" was really good, 
until I reached the last chapter.  It seemed to me a blatent attempt 
to leave an open ending for a sequel.  Just when one expects a simple
resolution, there is a plot twist that just sort of leaves the reader 
hanging.  "The Mummy" was IMHO a great book.  It left me hoping for 
other mummy books.  Maybe more on the making of the mummy?

W. Ross Geck
geck@edison.seas.ucla.edu
geck@plasma.icsl.ucla.edu
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 92 09:50:35 CST
From:         Derek Morgan  <C31801IE@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Reply-To:     derek@wubios.wustl.edu
Subject:      Re: Being made...
Newsgroups:   alt.vampyres

>>In article <8052@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester)
>writes:
>>>>So my question then becomes, what does an atheist or an agnostic do?
>>>>In my case, nothing, since it's sort of a fantasy of mine, but for those
>>>>who have no interest in vampirism, what would they do?
>>>>
>>>Oh thats easy!!!!! Being an Atheist, I'd grab a gun! I have faith in
>>>Smith and Wesson! =)
>>
   I understand that cross-marked silver bullets are effective. Regular leaden
ones just don't do it.

Derek
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: New reader query
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:41:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Apologies for the simplistic question:

Why are you all spelling the word 'vampyre' rather than 'vampire'? Is there
a special significance to this spelling?

--
                  A more intimate theology, and one more consonant with 
Stef              the nature of...love, pictures a demonic force engaged  
stef@apple.com    in continuous creation and participation. - Iris Murdoch
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: "Dracula's Guest"
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:48:54 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <BuByH0.7p6@agora.rain.com>, hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)

> Yeah, I agree.  Great story.  But are you sure about the female vampire?
> It's been awhile since I read it, but I don't remember a female.

Yep, pretty sure.  Harker is journeying to Dracula's castle, and stumbles
upon another ancient evil...  Perhaps one of Drac's brides?  I especially
liked the huge wolf form.  And the ending...but you'll have to find it and
read it again if you don't remember!

(And for all you fans of "Dracula", this short story is a must!)

Greg Bole                               "Are you coming?  Yeah, well see the 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             train moves, not the platform."
                                       John Lovitz in _A Leauge of Their Own_
From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: PENTOGRAMS GOOD OR BAD?
Keywords: good or evil?
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:02:30 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology

in a reply to your ps.....that a good device agenst vampires is a wooden stake
......
   Not True.....Anne Rice's Vampires would laugh at you if you tried that to them!! 

Fire (ie Burning them)  is the most common way to defeat the vampires
   In some versions, Sunlight is tolerable to some vampires....

L8R
Eric H

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