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From: dan@quebec (Dan Hanan x6326)
Subject: Re: What is the role of the U.S. National Team?
Organization: SAIC
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:06:36 GMT

oski@d31mf0.Stanford.EDU (L. Ravi Narasimhan) writes:
: 
: The constant change of National Team personnel puzzles me.  What role is
: the National Team to play in the future of U.S. indoor volleyball?  How
: can a strong team be fielded when the lure of the Italian leagues and
: the beach is so strong?  
: 
: 					--- Ravi Narasimhan
: 					    oski@clockwise.att.com
:  	
I may not be the best person to answer this, because I am a little bitter 
about the return of all the veterans - (the reason for not getting to go to
the Olympics).  According to our USVBA director, John Carrol, the National
teams are the 'flagship' in bringing volleyball in America to the status
and popularity that it deserves.  The teams are supposed to spark interest  
and support (and in some places introduce the sport) for the game by touring
around the country, representing the country in major tournaments, etc.

The constant change of personnel puzzles me too!  Again, I might be biased, 
but I think now is a real good time to get rid of the players on the team
that aren't going to be around much longer (i.e. the vets), and work on 
getting us young lads some international experience, exposure, etc.  Granted
we will take our beatings early on, but in the long run, we will be a mature,
experienced group of players that have been together for 4 years.  After all,
that's what made the team so great from '83 to '88 - the same players year
after year, tour after tour, etc.  I don't think we can achieve that status
when players are coming back 3 months before the Olymipcs, missing tours that
don't mean much (thus changing the starting lineup), etc.  

The goal obviously, is to create enough money in the sport so that the USVBA
can keep us here to play on the team by offering larger salaries thus         
competing with the salaries of Italy and the beach.  They are trying to get
this money through more TV coverage, possible pro leagues, even working on a 
deal with the AVP to start a National team beach series or something. 

We'll just have to see what happens this next year with the policies, etc 
regarding returning players and such. As a matter of fact, that's precisely
what I am going to do - if the situation remains the same, I will probably 
take off, and play some beach, etc. and come back in April, 1996.  

-Finally tracked you down, huh Ravi?  


-Dan
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dan@quebec.saic.com
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: tomoo@hpmctt.mcm.hp.com (Tomoo Taguchi)
Subject: Re: Strength Shoe
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:34:29 GMT

chin@controls.com (Kirk Chin) writes:
> Keywords:
> 
> I seen in volleyball magazines an advertisement for a strength
> shoe. Each shoe appears to have a block about 2-3" glued under the toe 
> area. The ad claims 5-9" of increased vertical. Has anyone tried it or heard
> about someone using it and what kind of results were actually achieved ?
> 
> Kirk
>  
> 
I have a pair of Strength Shoes that I have used once for 30 minutes.
They are size 9,  I paid $120 for them and I would like $100.  Sorry to
use the bandwidth, but I didn't have Kirk's email address.

Tomoo
From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: 17 point cap?
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:55:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <tuc.716275797@cs.wisc.edu> tuc@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Brian A. Cole) writes:
>Here are scores from the first day (11 Sept) of the Isthmus Badger Classic
>(Women's NCAA), Madison Wisconsin.
>
>   Kentucky:  18     8    15    15    (three very tense games)
>  Wisconsin:  16    15    13    12    (Kentucky mades lots of service errors)
>
>scoring question:  Why wasn't Kentucky awarded the game when it lead 17-16?
>Have the rules been changed again?

Yeah, the rules changed again.  No point cap on games.  (Fifth game is still
rally.)  Yellow cards carry over from game to game this year.  This is for
Women's NCAA.  Heard from a national referee.
--
Albert Liu
liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
From: yeff@Apple.COM (jeff soesbe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: 1992 Stanford Women's Vball Schedule
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:01:10 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

(I was going to leave this as "ba" distribution, but I realized
there's at least one person in New Jersey - Hi, Ravi! - who would
probably like this.  Also, it includes away games and tournaments.)

Enjoy,

jef
------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Soesbe
Internet: yeff@apple.com	AppleLink : YEFF
"When I was small, I was in love, in love with everything."
------------------------------------------------------------
My opinions are probably not Apple's opinions.
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1992 Stanford Women's Volleyball Schedule
-----------------------------------------
(all home games are at 7:30 pm at Maples Pavilion on Stanford campus
unless otherwise noted)


Wed Sept 2 : 	at Loyola Marymount University
Fri Sept 4 : 	at Long Beach State
Tues Sept 8 : 	at Santa Clara University
Fri Sept 11 : 	Alumnae Game (this game at Burhham Pavilion)
Tues Sept 15 : 	at BYU
Fri-Sat Sept 18-19 : Sportmart Invitational at Chicago, IL
(Stanford, Duke, Illinois, LSU)
Fri Sept 25 : 	at Oregon State
Sat Sept 26 : 	at University of Oregon
Fri Oct 2 : 	USC
Sat Oct 3 : 	UCLA
Fri Oct 9 : 	at University of Arizona
Sat Oct 10 : 	at Arizona State
Tues Oct 13 : 	California Berkeley
Fri Oct 16 : 	Washington State
Sat Oct 17 : 	University of Washington
Tues Oct 20 : 	University of the Pacific (UOP)
Fri Oct 23 : 	University of Oregon
Sat Oct 24 : 	Oregon State
Fri Oct 30 : 	at UCLA
Sat Oct 31 : 	at USC
Fri Nov 6 : 	Arizona State
Sat Nov 7 : 	University of Arizona
Fri Nov 13 : 	at University of Washington
Sat Nov 14 : 	at Washington State
Fri Nov 20 : 	at California Berkeley
Tues Nov 24 : 	San Jose State
Fri-Sat Nov 27-28 : Banker's Classic Tournament at Stockton, CA
(Stanford, USCB, UOP, Texas Tech)

NCAA Playoffs
-------------
Fri-Sat Dec 4-5 : 	NCAA First Round (sites TBA)
Fri-Sat Dec 11-12 : 	NCAA Regionals (sites TBA)
Thurs/Sat Dec 17/19 : 	NCAA Final Four (Albuquerque, NM)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Subject: Re: How do most women get into VB? 
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:06:53 GMT

lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:

>My niece has expressed an interest in VB and asked me to get her into
>the sport (as an after school activity).  The problem is she is only 11
>and most j. highs do not have VB programs.  So here are some questions I
>'d like to post:

>1.  What is a good age for girls to get into VB?
>2.  Should they reach certain height/weight before they start?
>	(She is 5'2", weight = ?? but is skinny and growing)
>3.  Are there VB instruction/classes designed specifically for teens?
>	(I think its important for her to get exposed to *PROPER* vb
>	environment so she wont pick up any bad habits, forms, etc)

>Thanks a bunch

>-dan
>| lam@popeye.comm.mot.com  __o     |                                        |
>| danl@comm.mot.com      _`\<,_    |
>| Chicago, Il           (*)/ (*)   |

Dan,
	You certainly live in a good city for someone who wants to starts
playing volleyball. The "correct" way to go about it is to get your niece
involved with one of the many juniors clubs in Chicago. There are leagues
for 12 and under, so 11 is not too young. These clubs have professional
coaches and many teams with different skill levels and age groups to
accommodate players from 10-11 up to 18. Most collegiate players come from
juniors clubs - for example, UIUC recruits heavily from the Sports Performance
Research Institute (SPRI) club in Chicago. Contact the Great Lakes
USVBA Commissioner for more information about getting in contact with
these clubs. Good luck!
						Greg Martin
						g-martin1@uiuc.edu
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:57:38 GMT

In article 6271@col.hp.com, rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern) writes:
>|
>|If you trade it for a Mikasa, it'll last forever because you'll never get
>|to play with it.  If anyone else playing has a Top-Flite, you'll use that
>|instead :-).  Honestly, if you go to a tournament, everyone will be
>|playing Top-Flites.  They are still the best ball by far!!  
Very very true.


The reason
>|they egg is because people insist on playing with them way too flat.
>|Just keep the ball filled up pretty full and play with it like that.

I thought the reason they egg is because of the two piece bladder construction, and that the new one piece bladder construction took care of that?  Please enlighten.

>|
>|Richard Stern
>|rstern@col.hp.com



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*Electric Power Laboratory		Snail mail: 33787 Ga. Tech Station * 
*School of Electrical Engineering		    Atlanta, GA 30332      *
*Georgia Institute of Technology				    	   *        *Atlanta, Georgia							   *
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From: Jim Beers <beers@nr-tech.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Nntp-Posting-User: @cornell.edu
Organization: /home/beers/.organization
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:33:16 GMT


   >      A quick summary.  Success!!  Excluding the net itself, which
   > I used a 'Sportcraft' cheapest available net (probably came from a
   > box set) the cost was 45 dollars!  The only tool we used was a
   > cordless drill.  The 45 dollars includes all pieces, including
   > the rope 'out of bounds' lines and drill bit.  Our poles are 2 inch
   > pvc and 1 1/2 inch pvc, that adjust to 8 ft. or 7 ft 4 (sorry we did
   > not go metric)....   We sawed 2 ten footers in half to do this, and
   > the poles collapse to 5 feet.  The net play is good, set up time
   > is about 10 minutes.  Definitely worth the effort!!
   > 

   First, I never seemed to be able to get very good tension on the net.  We used to
   crank the net tight and then lift the PVC poles up onto about a 2" block of wood
   to create extra tension (which obviously put the outside net height at about 8'2").
   But, even so, through play, the net just seemed to sag in the middle.  

   However, the second problem was the more devastating.  I don't know if PVC ages
   under the tensions applied to it by using it as a net support system.  We used the
   PVC net system all last year (about once a week), so I'm sure that it was utilized
   enough last year to wring out any immediate bugs.  However, after I set
   the net up for the first time this year and made sure that it was nice and tight,
   somebody spiked a ball into the net during warmups and BOTH of my PVC poles 
   SNAPPED at the joints.  BUMMER!

   So, a PVC system *might* be reasonable for a net system, but I'm going to have to
   investigate aluminum or something.  Maybe it was just the screw joints that caused

My first poles were PVC also, and I did not like them, after seeing the success that folks
with metal poles, I went with these.  As I stated in a post about a month ago, I use
the top rail of a chain link fence, they were $10 for 10 foot pieces, one for each pole.
Cut in half, and slip the bottom into the top, for instant pole.

Jim




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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:27:27 GMT

   The reason *I* heard those balls were egging was because Spalding was
shipping (or receiving) the balls with one side packed into the other.
Saves room when shipping but it left a "seam" in the ball. Ya know, it
was made into a bowl shape. So, that seam, when stitched inside a
leather pouch, left that ridge. So, now they have stopped doing that and
none of the balls should have those seams. There isn't a seam in the
ball I just got and that is a normal Top Flite. But, they still have a
slight egg to them. Big deal.


                                             - Drummer -
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: ematias@csri.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: World League Anybody? 
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:23:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.085744.23067@ryn.mro4.dec.com> rwolken@dcc036.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>
>Anybody else seen, or interested in the World League Final 
>from yesterday? 

   I don't know if the video you received was the same as up here in Toronto
(I'd assume it was), but the picture was terrible!  Windows must have been
situated across from the cameras, because there was a blinding amount of
glare coming off of the court.
   Oh, were you refering to the gameplay...?  :-)


+-----+--------------+---> +--------------------------+ <-------------------+
|     | Mark Rosteck |     | "There are two types of  |  Computers?   Yes!  |
|     +--------------+     | people: those who divide |  Volleyball?  Yes!  |
|   (otherwise known as)   | people into two types,   |  The beach?   Yes!  |
| g1marker@cdf.toronto.edu | and those who don't."    |  School?      NO... |
+--------------------------+                          +---------------------+
From: jimw@hub.parallan.com (Jim Wall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Court Dimensions?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 13:26:15 PDT
Organization: Parallan Computer, Mountain View CA

serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli) writes:

> In article <Btv0xH.8AB@news.cs.andrews.edu> lees@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Steve
> >In article <1992Aug31.171237.228@ns.network.com> robp@landru.network.com wri
> >>In article 5002@news.duke.edu, lees@acpub.duke.edu (Steve Lee) writes:
> >>>Sender: CRUSH 
> >>>Men's net is 8' and I believe the women's is 7'8" (not too sure about
> >>>that one).
> >>>
> >>>Hope this helps.
> >>
> >>Boy, it sure doesn't.  Both are wrong (although you're close on the men's)
> >>
> >>Men - 2.43 meters , or 7'11 5/8"
> >
> >OK, OK  I'm off by about 3/8 of an inch - now tell me if that make one
> >bit of difference in volleyball play.  If you can't make your hit go
> >over just 3/8 of an inch . . . what the hell are you doing trying to
> >hit?
> 
> Personally, i don't thing 3/8 of an inch affect a hit at the upper level.
> HOWEVER, At lower level, you get a lot of tape shots and believe me,
> nothing is as frustating as having a tape shot just roll into your court.
> 
> Once again, off by 3/8....WHO CARES!!!!
> 
> >By the way, does anybody out there know how to delete a lot of text on
> >vi?  I don't mean esc-x, that's too slow.  Thanx
> >
> Go to the line you want to start deleting, then type the number of lines
> to be deleted followed by dd. If you want to delete from a line to end of
> file type dG (d shift g)
> 
> Serge

Well, I really hated to continue on this relatively simple question, but 
I understood it to be something slightly different. I was told that the
official height   *at the poles* is 8'0" and that it must be  at least
7' 11 5/8" at the middle. This was then converted to a minimum height in 
metric. In probably wrong, usually am. And as usuall, it doesn't bother
me.
                                        Jim Wall
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From: rw42@triton.unm.edu (Randy Wallace)
Subject: Volleyball Monthly Tournament at Albuquerque
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:43:00 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Summary: Day Two Scores
Distribution: na

The second day (September 12) of the Volleyball Monthly Tournament here
in Albuquerque turned out to be a couple of spankings.

In match #1 of the evening, USC put away LSU in three (15-6, 15-9, and
15-8).  USC was too quick in the middle for the Fighting Tigers of LSU.

In match #2 Long Beach St. thrashed UNM in three (15-11, 15-3, and 15-6).
UNM came out strong in the first game and took an 8 point lead.  LBSt. was
a little flat initially, but they came on strong midway through the first
game and dominated throughout the rest of the match.  The block for LBSt.
was too big and too quick for UNM.  UNM's passing was in the tank for most
of the match, and they could not run the quick middles to fake out the block
without the passing.  LBSt. on the other hand was running great quick stuff.
Danielle Scott (selected as all-tournament), LBSt.'s 6'2" middle was dominating
in blocking and hitting.  I think UNM got some good experience from this 
match and will be able to run with the big, quick teams a little later in the
season (such as BYU).

In the last game of the UNM/Long Beach St. match, Christine Romero, Long Beach
St.'s 5'9" outside hitter put down a ball harder than anything I've seen live.
I'm still amazed at how hard and fast this ball hit the floor.  What amazed
me even more was that Romero did not make to all-tournament team.  She was
hitting hard and consistently, she was always there on the digs and the dinks,
she got served for most of the match and I did not see her shank one, yet she
still was not selected all-tourney.  Go figure.

Well, there's only one more match, UNM and LSU at 7 this evening.  I'll post 
the results later.  USC and Long Beach St. do not face each other in the
tournament (I'm not sure why, other than they've both gone home).

Randy
*Knowledge is death.  Come to UNM and live forever.*
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Perceived Perceptions
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:43:55 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network


   Serge,  if I see you at the beach, I will be sure to let you play
with me. Not against me though. You cost me $50 two weekends ago. Damn
kids these days.
 
   But, I do understand the point here...
 
 
                                       - Drummer -
From: stonek@rollout.tymnet.com (Ken Stone)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:22:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Sep8.131218.24314@software.org> facemire@Software.ORG writes:

  my pole construction deleted

>
>Last year, I too, had the same desire, and I too selected 2" PVC as a means to
>construct an outdoor system for under $40 or so (excluding the net).  I also
>had the desire to have this system collapsable, so I used PVC male/female screw
>joints to piece the two sections together. However, there were two problems that
>somebody spiked a ball into the net during warmups and BOTH of my PVC poles 
>SNAPPED at the joints.  BUMMER!
>
>So, a PVC system *might* be reasonable for a net system, but I'm going to have to
>investigate aluminum or something.  Maybe it was just the screw joints that caused
>the system to fail.  I'm confident that having a PVC system without some form of
>telescoping would probably do the trick (if you could get around the tension 
>problem).
>
>Just thought that I'd give you my PVC experiences...
>
>Jeff Facemire
>facemire@software.org

	Let me draw a quick picture.  We thought about a screw idea
and male/female parts (rec.sport.volleyball.erotica?) and I just 
looked at another outdoor set and did this.  Now turn your head
sideways.



< -----   5 feet ---------- > 2 inch pvc
                  < 2 feet  >
                  < ----------- 5 feet -----------> 1.5 inch pvc

	Net permanently attached to the 5 foot 2 inch pvc.  The
other 5 footer slides inside the 2 inch pole.  (the is not exact
but for the description it is okay.)  Push the 5 foot piece 
2 feet inside the other, making the unit now 8 feet.  This gives
you a collapsable pole down to 5 feet.  With 2 feet of overlap,
this makes the pole strong yet flexible.  couple of eye bolts
and wing nuts and we are in business.
	We do have a sag in the middle but it is minimal.

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- ken stone                 stonek@antares.tymnet.com                 -
- btna san jose, ca     but stonek.probably@the.racquetball.courts    -
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From: mkrogers@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Court Dimensions?READ/NEW
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:15:07 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst Mass.

In article <gyFLqB1w164w@hub.parallan.com>, jimw@hub.parallan.com (Jim Wall) writes:
> 
> Well, I really hated to continue on this relatively simple question, but 
> I understood it to be something slightly different. I was told that the
> official height   *at the poles* is 8'0" and that it must be  at least
> 7' 11 5/8" at the middle. This was then converted to a minimum height in 

The 1992 U. S. Volleyball Rules, Rule 2, Article 2.
	The height of the net measured from the center of the court shall
	be 2.43m (7'11 5/8") for men and 2.24m (7'4 1/8") for women.
	The two ends of the net must be at the same height from the
	playing surface and cannot exceed the regulation height by
	more than 2 cm (3/4").

> metric. In probably wrong, usually am. And as usuall, it doesn't bother
> me.

You must be a ref :-).

	-mike
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: jordan+@pitt.edu (Kenneth D Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Pittsburgh Volleyball
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:08:27 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jordan@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

*******************************************************************************

				    FALL VOLLEYBALL

	Location:	Gateway Junior High School (Monroeville).
			Only 15-20 minutes east of Oakland / Pittsburgh.

	Elibigility:	Both individuals and teams are welcome.
			Men, Women, or Coed.
			A great place for teams to scrimmage, or for
			individuals to get some serious court time.

	Day / time:	Thursdays, 7-10 pm.

	Starting date:	September 24, 1992

	Fee:		Only $26 for 12 weeks.  Cheap!
			(6 week registration for $15 also available --
			good for any 6 weeks during the fall session.)
			(There is a one-time-per-year fee of $5 for
			non-Monroeville residents which applies to all
			programs, including the next session.)

	Miscellaneous:	This is to be clean "power" volleyball.  Ability
			levels typically range from B through AA.  There
			are 2 courts, and the gym is fairly nice.  I'd
			describe the atmosphere as "friendly competetive".
			The program resumes with a new session in January.

	Directions:	From Pittsburgh:
			Take the Parkway (376) east to the third Monroeville
			exit, which is Route 48 North.  Turn left at the first
			light (<1/4 mile), and the entrance to GJHS's parking
			lot will be immediately on your left.  The gym is at
			the back of the school, next to the track.

			From various other places:
			Or take the Turnpike (76) to Exit 6 (Pittsburgh).
			Exit onto Business Route 22 West, and make the first
			right onto Route 48 North.  Then proceed as above.

			From elsewhere:
			Contact Nick (see below).

	More details:	Contact Nick Nystrom (nick@theory.chem.pitt.edu)
			or by phone at (412)-372-1817.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: hendefd@woof.duc.auburn.edu (Frank Henderson)
Subject: shoulder strain
Reply-To: hendefd@woof.duc.auburn.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:35:49 GMT

I recently over-exerted myself on a spike and really strained my
shoulder.  It hurts to elevate my elbow above shoulder level and
it "pops" (noise not painful) whenever I shift my shoulder certain ways.
Any ideas for proper treatment/strengthening?

thanks
/fdh

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