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From: usys@phoenix.abg.sub.org (Uwe C. Schroeder)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: How to receveive multiple fax-pages with ZyXEL 1496E+?
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:49:30 GMT
Organization: Anwendungssysteme, Augsburg

mike@inftec.be (Mike Aerts) writes:

>I'm writng my own tty monitor which allows me to dial-in/dial-out,
>use callback facilities and send/receive faxes.
>Doing the fax part with any complete information is the problem.
>For the moment I'm only able to receive the first page of a 
>multipage fax transmission and I have no clue what happens.
>I send the modem the following init strings :
>	ATZ0
>	ATS40=0
>	AT#B1+FCLASS=6
>	AT#V1#T0#R0#L2#C5#P+32 2 4604650
>And receive the following date from the FAX
>	CONNECT FAX
>	Zyxel
>	/S1440V1T0R0L2C7P+32 2 460 4611
>and the image of the first page which is OK.
>and then the modem disconnects, I don't even see a
>disconnect message

Hi all,

why do you use AT#B1 ??
In this mode, the modem waits for a DC2 character to start sending the
data to the computer. This DC2 char must be sent for every page. The DTE
therefor should recognize the 'RTC' in the fax data and then send a DC2
to get the next page. Otherwise the modem times out and hangs up.
If you are not in a BBS system, you can use AT#B0 mode, where the data
follows the CONNECT message untill the end of the document. One then gets
a single file with all pages in it. This can cause problems to the viewing
or converting tool.

Bye,
	Uwe
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From: jsnyder@rock.concert.net (Joseph J Snyder -- Graphic Data Inc)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Fax autodialer wanted  (Wargames dialer)
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:30:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: rock.1992Dec21.213016.4085
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX

Does anyone know of where I could find an autodialer for finding fax 
machines along the lines of the same type of program used to find modems?

At the minimum it would have to process a list of phone numbers checking
each answered line for the existence of a fax tone.  A handy feature would
be for the program to also capture the answerback data of the the called
fax machine.

Any & all ideas or suggestions welcomed and appreciated.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modem
Subject: WinFax & Digicom Scout+
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 21:24:30 -0500
From: "Bradley D. Keister" <keister@poincare.phys.cmu.edu>

I am unable to send faxes successfully with WinFax Lite and a Digicom
Scout+ under Windows 3.0 and a Gateway 386sx.  When a connection is
made, a status window indicates that the cover page is being sent,
then a "100% complete" display appears.  A few seconds later, the
modem shuts down, and the SendLog file shows

No response from remote fax: 50

and 

Pages Sent: 0

The person at the receiving end gets only the header of the cover page
- no names or phone numbers.  Digicom tech support suggested that I
had an interrupt conflict with COM2 (I have a mouse on COM1, and have
disabled a second Gateway COM2 port), but I can run other Windows
application software to connect to my office workstation without any
trouble.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.protocols.misc
From: elmar@gulasch.hanse.de (Elmar Folba)
Subject: Re: How Do Fax Modems Connect?
Keywords: beep protocol
Organization: Spare-time Hacker, Hamburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:19:42 GMT

In article <PcTmwB2w165w@mcgort.com> rlm@mcgort.com (Robert McMillin) writes:
>...
>> Q: At what speed are fax modems expected to connect? Do they use V.32 data
>>    rate negotiation, or something different?
>
>No.  The fax and data modem specifications are separate.
Thanks to all who replied; this was my main misunderstanding. I thought it
would all be V.32 or a subset at least until connection establishment.
>...
>One thing you didn't mention when you wrote your post was what fax 
>software you were using to try to talk to your office fax.  It may seem 
>blindingly stupid of me to ask, but was the fax software you were using
>suitable for the Digicom Scout Plus?
Well it all started with some piece of software that came along with the modem,
free (or at no extra charge, to be precise), and I just wanted to find out why
it refused to work. Still, I didn't pay for it so maype it is too much to
expect it to work.
>
>This is because it's assumed the controlling software will handle the
>niceties of Class 1 (or whatever class the DSP is) operation, and there's
>a lot of them.  The standard disclaimer with fax modems is that it's too
>complex for you to diddle with; if you have, as they say in the defense
>industry, a need to know, please see the ANSI/EIA/TIA Standard document
>"Asynchronous Facsimile DCE Control Standard EIA/TIA-578."  At least,
>that's what it says in my PPI fax modem documentation, and I'll bet your
>Digicom docs have something similar.
Thanks, again. I was hoping I could hack Gnu Fax as much as required to drive
this bleeding modem but after all I've learned I'll better get me some
DOS fax program that I can test beforehand.

Thanks, all of you, and
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From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: How to receveive multiple fax-pages with ZyXEL 1496E+?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:27:38 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In comp.dcom.fax, article <1992Dec21.233310.19171@inftec.be>,
  mike@inftec.be (Mike Aerts) writes:
> For the moment I'm only able to receive the first page of a 
> multipage fax transmission and I have no clue what happens.
> I send the modem the following init strings :
> 	ATZ0
> 	ATS40=0
> 	AT#B1+FCLASS=6
> 	AT#V1#T0#R0#L2#C5#P+32 2 4604650
> And receive the following date from the FAX
> 	CONNECT FAX
> 	Zyxel
> 	/S1440V1T0R0L2C7P+32 2 460 4611
> and the image of the first page which is OK.
> and then the modem disconnects, I don't even see a
> disconnect message
> 
> Does anybody have a clue about this, or pointers to a more
> complete documentation?
> 
RTFM -- page 13-4: "the DTE software should detect the page separator and
then send DC2 to receive the next page fax data". If you want a continuous
data stream, set #B0.

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From: thaiae@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Thai Appl Engr)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:25:00 GMT
Subject: Re: UDS/Motorola
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax

In comp.dcom.fax, spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:

    Anyone know if UDS/Motorola make a fax modem? 

    Stef


Yes. Its name "FastTalk FAX32 Fax MODEM and FastTalk PC FAX MODEM"
From: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Guy Frezza)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Zoom VFX V.32bis Fax/Modem Update on Rom
Date: 23 Dec 1992 20:23:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Guy Frezza)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	To all who may have the Zoom Vfx v.32 bis Fax/modem, I have just
put my call in to Zoom Telephonics today for the new Rom version, 1.5.
With just the little I know of it, it has improved the 14.4 connections,
and the automatic fallback has been implemented. The fax side of the modem
has not been changed.  My previous Rom version was 1.200.

Phone #: 617 423 1076

Cost? $5 for the Rom and $5 for shipping and handling.
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Internet: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: holemans@reks.uia.ac.be (Wim Holemans)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: netfax
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:42:39 GMT
Organization: U.I.A.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

We are very interested in the NetFax software but we have some questions.
1) the modem you need to get it working, isn't available in our country.
   If i remember well from the doc, it is a Everex Everfax 24/96D modem.
2) Some people told us that Everex isn't doing very well and even some
   rumours about bankruptcy exists.
3) So the final question : is there another popular fax modem you can
   use with Netfax or has someone changed the software so it can use
   another modem and if so, which modem ?

Every comment, suggestion or answer is welcome.

Thanks & greetings,

W. Holemans
U.I.A. Belgium
holemans@uia.ac.be
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From: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Guy Frezza)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Zoom VFX V.32bis Fax/Modem Update on Rom
Date: 24 Dec 1992 19:00:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Guy Frezza)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Rick.Bronson@mixcom.mixcom.com (Rick.Bronson) says:

>In <1hahrmINNa9o@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Guy Frezza) writes:
>
>
>>	To all who may have the Zoom Vfx v.32 bis Fax/modem, I have just
>>put my call in to Zoom Telephonics today for the new Rom version, 1.5.
>>With just the little I know of it, it has improved the 14.4 connections,
>>and the automatic fallback has been implemented. The fax side of the modem
>>has not been changed.  My previous Rom version was 1.200.
>
>>Phone #: 617 423 1076
>
>>Cost? $5 for the Rom and $5 for shipping and handling.
>>-- 
>
>>Dan Frezza
>>Internet: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
>Dan,
>  I have a ZOOM VFXV32bis external modem and wondered if the ROM content
>is downloadable from ZOOM's BBS for those of us who have access to EPROM
>burners?
>Rick
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At this time, I am not aware if Zoom has a BBS.  I don't believe so.
Best thing to do is to call Zoom Telephonics at 617 423 1072.

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Internet: bz223@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Fax On Demand Services
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:35:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory

Howdy-
 As promised, here is a listing of all the FOD services I have
encountered recently.  Thanks to the email contributors at the end of
this message who provided me with more info.  Please feel free to send
me more listings, I'll post an update.

FOD list 1.0 12/21/92
--- 
Company: Avery
Type: fax (on same line that you call) for label applications
Phone:

1-8181-584-1681
---
Company: Borland
Type: Fax callback
Phone: 

1-800-822-4269
---
Company: Epson
Type: menu to fax callback on Epson products
Phone:

1-800-922-8911
---
Company: Ergonomics Information Center
Type: fax callback with info on ergonomics
Phone:

1-800-FAX-ERGO
---
Company: IBM
Type: fax callback after business hours for IBM Product specs and prices
Phone:

1-800-IBM-4FAX
---
Company: Logitech
Type: unknown (did not answer) 
Phone:

1-800-245-0000
---
Company: Maxtor
Type: fax callback for drive specs
Phone:

1-303-678-2618
---
Company: Microsoft
Type: menu to fax callback for software tips
Phone:

Excel for Macintosh            (206) 635-7081
Excel for Windows              (206) 635-7071
MS-DOS 5.0                     (206) 646-5103
Project for Windows            (206) 635-7156
Visual Basic                   (206) 646-5107
Windows/Windows for Workgroups (206) 635-7245
Word for MS-DOS                (206) 635-7211
Word for Macintosh             (206) 635-7231
---
Company: Occidental Systems
Type: fax callback on Occidental 80x86 systems
Phone:

1-800-525-0885
---

My thanks to the following people:

toturner@heartland.bradley.edu (Tom Turner)
Steve Palm <smp@myamiga.mixcom.com>
sandyb@world.std.com (Sandy Bendremer)
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From: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Dr. Klaus Wolferts)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Re: How Do Fax Modems Connect?
Keywords: beep protocol
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 13:41:19 MEZ
Organization: Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik, D-7500 Karlsruhe 31

elmar@gulasch.hanse.de (Elmar Folba) writes:

> I own a brand new Digicom Scout Plus modem which works all right with kermit
> and uucp, connecting to various modems at a wide range of speeds: no problem.
> I just can't get it to fax - precisely: not even to connect to the office
> fax machine. [ ... ] 
> What happens when I let my modem dial the office fax: the two beep at each
> others in a surprisingly rich collection of tunes, but after the third
> attempt or so they find they don't really have anything in common so both
> of them disconnect; my modem returns a laconic NO CARRIER. [ ... ]

Use Class 1 fax-software. The Scout+ comes with DosFax and WinFax Lite. 
There is no chance with datacomm software.
 
> Q: At what speed are fax modems expected to connect? Do they use V.32 data
>    rate negotiation, or something different?

300 bd with V.21 channel 2 for handshake, V.29 (9600+7200bps) and 
V.27ter (4800+2400 bps), newest V.17 (14400+12000 bps). These are 
unidirectional modulations. 

> Q: At connection time, do fax modems negotiate error correction (MNP, V.42)?
>    Or something different? Or none at all?

Yes, if the software and the remote device do (most dont :-( ).

> Q: Could somebody who has a fax modem working let me know what parameters
>    (speed, error correction, compression, Trellis coding etc.) are in effect
>    at connecting time?

Handshaking is done after CCITT recommendataion T.30, transmission and 
coding after T.4, which does compression with 1-dim run length coding 
(modified huffman, MH) better with 2-dim compression. Error control 
and/or correction is optional.

> I should add that I DID RTFM: the modem manual is as good as any and better
> than most - on everything else. On fax there is NOT A SINGLE LINE.

So it is :-(

Good luck in '93 for modem faxing, Klaus
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: rfrenkel@world.std.com (richard frenkel)
Subject: Re: Why does my faxboard only work w/ 50% of faxes
Keywords: fax
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:48:23 GMT

rfrenkel@world.std.com (richard frenkel) writes:

>I'm sure this is a FAQ, but I have little knowledge or interest about the 
>workings of FAXES (short term technology).  My ZOOM "group 3" with 
>"class 2" driver (whatever that means) only sends or receives faxes
>about 50% of the time.  It always connects (either way) and then just
>sits there in "pre-message" blinking the CD light idiotically until
>it times out.  I know better than to try to ask Zoom and MTEZ has 
>disappeared into WordPerfect.  So if anyone would like to explain this
>to me, and what can be done about it, I'd be grateful.  Here or
>rfrenkel@world.std.com

>Thanks

Well the answer turned out to be that I had had the fax modem parameters
set at the store I bought the modem, and they choose a modem type which was
incorrect.  Both Zoom and MTEZ have been very helpful, although it takes a
bit to get through.  
.

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.protocols.misc
From: elmar@gulasch.hanse.de (Elmar Folba)
Subject: How Do Fax Modems Connect?
Keywords: beep protocol
Organization: Spare-time Hacker, Hamburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:36:20 GMT

Hi everybody,
I don't as a rule expect every piece of hard- or software to work at the third
or fourth attempt, and I'm ready to spend any reasonable effort to make it
work; but my fax modem beats me.
I own a brand new Digicom Scout Plus modem which works all right with kermit
and uucp, connecting to various modems at a wide range of speeds: no problem.
I just can't get it to fax - precisely: not even to connect to the office
fax machine. (The office fax machine is a standard standard standard G3 fax
which daily sends and receives faxes to and from every conceivable location
so I take it that side is all right).
What happens when I let my modem dial the office fax: the two beep at each
others in a surprisingly rich collection of tunes, but after the third
attempt or so they find they don't really have anything in common so both
of them disconnect; my modem returns a laconic NO CARRIER.
My modem has some 40 or so parameters I can change and I've been through
most of the 40! combinations: the result is always the same.

Q: At what speed are fax modems expected to connect? Do they use V.32 data
   rate negotiation, or something different?
Q: At connection time, do fax modems negotiate error correction (MNP, V.42)?
   Or something different? Or none at all?
Q: Could somebody who has a fax modem working let me know what parameters
   (speed, error correction, compression, Trellis coding etc.) are in effect
   at connecting time?
I'd really appreciate any help on this - I haven't got stuck like this for
years.
I should add that I DID RTFM: the modem manual is as good as any and better
than most - on everything else. On fax there is NOT A SINGLE LINE.
Help please.


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				elmar@gulasch.hanse.de
From: dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Intel Satisfation/400
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Golden Gate Computer Society BBS - Marin, CA - 415-927-1216
Reply-To: dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas) 

CAM>I would appreciate hearing from anyone who owns this fax-modem. Also, is th
CAM>Intel software that comes with it, any good?

I have some minor problems with my 400 (internal).  Like it won't
connect with European fax #'s.  Tech support is less than great, but
I've dealt with worse.  The modem is excellent.  I can only comment on
the Windows software that ships with it.  Faxability is good, but not
exactly feature rich.

I've never seen a competing board that consistently is rated higher.  So
much depends on how you use it, and what's installed in your computer.

Dave Yuhas

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From: gksmith@mcl.cc.utexas.edu (Glenn Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: CAS vs. CLASS 1
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:38:42 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Computation Center

Does anyone have a comparision between the CAS and CLASS 1 specifications?
I need to know what the differences between the two "standards" are.  Also,
any information concerning CLASS 2 fax modems would be appreciated.

Thanks




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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan)
Subject: Re: Fax autodialer wanted (Wargames dialer)
Organization: w8hd.org
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:19:29 GMT

jsnyder@rock.concert.net (Joseph J Snyder -- Graphic Data Inc) writes:

>Does anyone know of where I could find an autodialer for finding fax 
>machines along the lines of the same type of program used to find modems?

Why do you want to do this?
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: "ian evans" <ian.evans@canrem.com>
Subject: class 1 command line fax
Reply-To: "ian evans" <ian.evans@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 3 Jan 93 02:01:50 EST

I'm looking for an MS-DOS program (PD, Shareware, Commercial) that will
operate with a USRobotics FaxModem (Class 1 Fax).  It has to be able to
operate from the command line with something like:

SEND FILESPEC.TXT 555-1212

Operating under Desqview would be a real plus.

Any ideas?
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From: keister@poincare.phys.cmu.edu (Bradley D. Keister)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: WinFax LITE
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:30:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: poincare.9212231430.AA27757
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I've isolated a problem that I reported earlier down to the fact that
my Digicom Scout+ running WinFax LITE shuts down before it completes
sending a FAX cover page.  If I do not send a cover page, then the
transmission works OK.  I also have DosFax LITE, and it has no such
problem.  I therefore suspect the software rather than the modem, but
I'm curious if others have had this problem.

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