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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:14:43 CDT
From:         Barry Finkel <B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV>
Subject:      MVS Accounting ... Solved

I retrieved the correct accounting when I added the active JSCB to my
search chain.  Thanks to all who suggested this.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:03:00 LCL
From:         LONGLEGS <LONGLEGS.SYSTEMS@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VTAM Application
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To: @IBM-MAIN

I originally replied directly to Jerry, but since he did not respond, I
thought I'd post this to the list, since maybe the mail got dropped
somewhere along the way.  After all, it's a long way from NC to Wyoming
:-).  The offer stands for you "list-citizens", but if I get a lot of
requests, it may take a while to field them.  For the record, this code
runs on VTAM 3.2 (going to 3.4.1 soon) on an MVS/ESA 4.2.0 platform, but it
was written under VTAM 3.1 under MVS/XA.

-Joel Dunn
***********************************************************
Jerry, I have such a VTAM application that we use as our front-end menu.
We wrote it to provide a better front-end than USS tables.  It offers a
scrollable menu with up to 99 options (9 pages at 11 appls per page),
multiple security levels (different terminals can get different menus), a
dynamic "message of the day", and real-time update of the status of
possible applications.

The program makes extensive use of asynchronous sends to avoid lockups.  I
don't know how big your shop is, but it will handle quite a few terminals.
I just checked, and the program is in session with 619 terminals, and has
SIMLOGON's queued for 650 more (it issues a SIMLOGON to re-acquire
terminals that go off to appls like TSO & CICS).

If you'd like a copy, please send me a BITNET address (so I can use NJE to
send the PDS).

-Joel Dunn
 Manager, Communications
 UNC-Chapel Hill Administrative Data Processing
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:44:51 EDT
From:         Jack Schudel <JGS2@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: QUEUE vs SDSF vs IOF

On Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:39:00 PDT Leonard D Woren said:
>Also, I have a personal bias against FI, although it's possible that
>the particular reason for this is no longer working there.  (He was
>the original "I" in "FI".)

Just as a point of reference, I was not happy when FI took over the
marketing for IOF, since I had problems with the "F" part in the past.

I am happy to report that all FI seems to do is take our money and mail
us tapes.  All technical problems and development are done by Triangle
Systems, and they have always been happy, quick, and competent.
(And yes, I am a very happy user of IOF.)
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Organization: The World Bank - IBM Facility Center
Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:05:06 EDT
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From:         RMOTTA@IBRDVM1.BITNET
Subject:      MEASURING TSO RESP. TIME
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN@UA1VM.BITNET, IBM-MAIN@RICEVM1.BITNET

How do you guys measure TSO response time ? How do you report it to users ?
We use RMF and SLR, but find both inadequate. From RMF we get an 'average'
and a standard deviation value. That makes it difficult to report to users
'How many transactions completed under 1 second'. SLR values are the same as
RMF.

Any tips on software/methodology/literature on the subject ?

I appreciate your help.

Roberto Bezerra Motta
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:28:00 EDT
From:         Mike.Porter@MVS.UDEL.EDU
Subject:      Re: Utility to Copy PDS to Seq.
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN@ricevm1.rice.edu

I have a CLIST/ISPF/PDF panel set that allows you to select
members for copying to a single SEQ. dataset.  It wouldn't be too
hard to change it so that each member went to a different dataset.
If you specify a member selection mask of something other than
'*', you are presented with the standard ISPF/PDF member selection
list.  '*' will copy all members.

Its not the fastest thing in the world, but it works pretty well.

I also have one that deletes members from a dataset using another
PDS for the list of members to delete.  This is useful if you've
copied a product's dataset into a PDS that also contains other
products.  When it comes time to upgrade the product, I back out
the old version using its old datasets, and then copy in the new
datasets.

Let me know if you would like a copy.

Mike
> From: "Duane D. Weaver" <WEAVER%OHSTVMA.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
> Subject: Utility to Copy PDS to Seq.
>
> Does anyone have a utility program to all or selected members
> of a PDS to separate sequential data sets?
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:12:09 EDT
From:         Zoltan Forray <SSTSZXF@VCUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM
              19 Aug 1992 09:03:15 EDT from <STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>

The BOOKMANAGER "books" are in a standard format, that can be transfered from
MVS to PC to VM to CD-ROM without any conversion.

For instance, when I installed SMP/E V1.6, it came with BOOKMANAGER
documentation. We downloaded the appropriate files to a PC, using IRMA's FT/TSO
in binary (read dont translate to ASCII) transfer format. BOOKMANAGER on the
PC read it just as easily as reading the CD-ROM CICS documentation we have.
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:12:49 EDT
From: Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Zmodem for VM/CMS

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I'm looking for a Zmodem
implication for the VM/CMS system running on an IBM mainframe.  (I'm not sure
which one, but I can find out if it is necessary.)

Any information leading to the location of such a program, commercial or
othewise, will be greatly appreciated.

Thanx in advance,

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
         <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu
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Resent-Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:22:08 CDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Darren Evans-Young <DARREN@ua1vm.ua.edu>
Comments:     Originally-From: Claire Chang <cchang@citi.umich.edu>
From:         Darren Evans-Young <DARREN@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Greetings and a request

I was asked to post this...enjoy.

Darren
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:03:46 EDT
From:         DSTRASEN@BROCKVMA.BITNET

We have just cutover to VM/ESA 1.1.1 running RSCS 3.1.  Ever since
we have not been able to send E-MAIL off campus.  We are running
VM NETWORK MAILER Rel. 2.8.  The message we receive when sending
'non-local' mail is 'MAILBOX NOT FOUND'.  CMS NOTE however
seems to have no problem.  Any help will be appreciated.
Note I will have an IBM VM guru here next week.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:35:46 EDT
From:         "Robert L. King" <BOBKING@GDLVM7.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      ESA 1.1
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              from Nancy Reeves <NREEVES@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU>

CMS should not be run with MACHINE ESA.  It is technically unsupported.
MACHINE ESA is supported for guests only.  CMS can run with MACHINE 370,
MACHINE XA, and MACHINE XC.  As far as CMS goes MACHINE ESA and MACHINE
XA are essentially the same but the response from CP QUERY SET is
different and some (many?) CMS programs that can handle an XA response
can't handle an ESA response.

Use MACHINE XC to allow CMS to use ESA features, like data spaces and
access register mode.  MACHINE ESA has all of the ESA features but only
for DAT ON machines (dynamic address translation).  CMS normally runs
only with DAT OFF and MACHINE XC was created to allow DAT OFF machines to
use ESA capabilities.

Bob King                        InterNet: bobking@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:02:19 CDT
From:         Nancy Reeves <NREEVES@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU>
Subject:      re:cd-rom
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN%UA1VM.BITNET@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU

Stan,
  The software your IBM rep was referring to is: BookManager READ/DOS.
Product number 5601-453. It's software for a PC (DOS 3.3 or higher required)
that  "provides users with the ability to view and search online books
and documents traditionally found in printed form. BookManager READ/DOS
allows user to read, search, make notes, copy, and print on demand. {It}
provides the workstation user with access to books residing on a LAN server,
AS/400 folder, fixed disk, diskettes, or on CD-ROM."

I have the VM/ESA softcopy library, and VSE/ESA library on CD-rom. It's very
nice to be able to switch between a mainframe session and all the manuals
very quickly on my PC at my desk.

Nancy Reeves

Techincal Support Analyst        bitnet: nreeves@twsuvm
Wichita State University         internet: nreeves@twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu
From: ELOA@BRFUEL.BITNET (Eloa Jane Fernandes Mateus)
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Subject: Re: VTAM Application
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:19:27 GMT
Organization: Fundacao Universidade Estadual de Londrina
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On Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:58:24 BS3 you said:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>    I am trying to write a VTAM application that displays a screen of
>options to execute (for example TSO, CICS etc.) Does anyone have a
>VTAM application example they could send me? I would appreciate it
>tremendously.
>
Jerry,

I think you are intending to do another UUSTAB for your terminals. The
USSTAB contains the first screen that appears in a terminal when it is
turned on. If this is the case, just let me know, cause
I have an USSTAB here that I can send you. Though my operating system is
VM, I think there must be the same in MVS (you use MVS, don't you?)

Bye,

    Eloa.

PS:- I'm not subscribed to this list, so please if you want the USSTAB
     send mail direct to me.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:45:22 EDT
From:         Keith Campbell <SYSKEC@GSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM

     David Ehresman asked how I knew that the CD-ROM I received did not have
 Bookmanager/Read on it.  I took it to a PC with a CD-ROM drive, mounted it, and
 did a DIR command.  There were no executables only a README file and the
 manuals themselves.  Neither the README file or the documentation said anything
 about a read program on the disk.

     This was for DF/DSS 2.5 which was released a while ago.  I assume that the
 CD-ROM was cut before this new policy.  I have been very frustarated with the
 whole process.  Unless you are on the latest and greatest software the CD-ROM
 manuals are not available.  You have to explicitely specify the feature code
 if you can find it.  It won't do me anygood until we move to ESA.  If anybody
 form IBM out there is listening how about a CD-ROM for XA.

                                             Keith Campbell
                                             SYSKEC@GSUVM1.BITNET
                                             Georgia State University
                                             Wells Computer Center
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:03:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Replying ...

> We have just cutover to VM/ESA 1.1.1 running RSCS 3.1.  Ever since
> we have not been able to send E-MAIL off campus.  We are running
> VM NETWORK MAILER Rel. 2.8.  The message we receive when sending
> 'non-local' mail is 'MAILBOX NOT FOUND'.

Where is that message coming from?  As far I can tell, the VM Mailer
doesn't generate it, and it doesn't sound like something from RSCS.
Those are the only two products you mentioned, but you presumably
are using some kind of Mail User Agent, so that's probably the
place to look.
                                       John
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From: SYS0008@MVS.UDEL.EDU
Subject: Re: CD-ROM
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:50:00 GMT


There's also an "Online Library Starter Kit" (SK2T-2071-00) that's
available from Publications.  although I haven't taken a look at it
yet, it looks like it has many useful manuals in it.  (it consists
of 4 CD's, and according to the documentation each CD has a copy of
the DOS and OS/2 Bookmanager on it..)

Shawn
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:56:01 G+3
From:         "Saad Al-Harthi," <CCA3407@SAKAAU03.BITNET>
Subject:      ECF problem.

Hello all,

       We are running MVS/ESA 4.2.0 on ES/9000, when we install ECF 1.2.0
we define virtual files and it works fine, but when we try to define
virtual printer using the ECF dialog it asked for either define the
printer using the one that defined under TSO/E ICF or not in either cases
the session abends with system code 878-10 insuffitiont virtual storage.
I've increased the private Virtual storage to 12MB but the problem still
exist.

Any Help will be apreatuated.

Thanx in advanced.

----------------------------
Saad Al-Harthi
Systems Engineer
Computer Center
Jeddah Saudi Arabia
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:17:11 MST
From:         JERRY@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
Subject:      VTAM Application
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU

    I am trying to write a VTAM application that displays a screen of
options to execute (for example TSO, CICS etc.) Does anyone have a
VTAM application example they could send me? I would appreciate it
tremendously.


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   uuww   uww  ww      University of Wyoming
   uuww   uww  ww      Internet:JERRY@Corral.UWyo.Edu
   uuww   uww  ww      Information Technology
    uuww    u   w      Phone (307)766-6257
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:51:00 EDT
From:         "Pat Ratz" <TS0404@OHSTMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Object Oriented Software on MVS

Does anybody know whether there are any object-oriented software
packages available for MVS?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Patricia O. Ratz                Phone: 614-292-4843
Acting Assoc Director,          Fax: 614-292-7081
Central Computing
Academic Computing Services
Ohio State University           Email: pat_ratz@osu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:04:03 EDT
From:         "Robert L. King" <BOBKING@GDLVM7.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      CD-ROM
Comments: To: ibm-main%ricevm1.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

              from <STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>

The product you need to read VM/XA and VM/ESA manuals on CD-ROM is
BookManager Read.  It allows you to view and search manuals created by
BookManager Build and which are written in BookMaster, which the VM/XA
and VM/ESA manuals are.  (There are even more of these things like
DrawMaster and ProcessMaster.)  Some of the product numbers for
BookManager Read are:
  5684-062  BookManager Read/VM Edition
  5601-453  BookManager Read/DOS for PC/DOS
  5601-454  BookManager Read/2 for OS/2
Order the BookManager Read/VM General Information manual, GC23-0447, for
more details.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:37:48 -0400
From:         Doug Fraser <dfraser@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: MEASURING TSO RESP. TIME

If you report just average response time, your phone will ring.  We report
average and the sum of average plus one standard deviation.  I have
thought about changing it to the sum of average plus two standard
deviations but have not convinced myself and/or found the time.

The sum of average plus one standard deviation is the number I pay the
most attention to.

Doug Fraser                         email: dfraser@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
System Support Manager              phone: (416) 525-9140 ext 3868
Computing and Information Services  fax:   (416) 528-3773
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:30:00 EDT
From:         postman Bill Wylbur <$WYL@PCCJES2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: QUEUE vs SDSF vs IOF

I second this message as everyone here loves IOF and its SPEED is unbeliveable
with quick access to the formentioned items.
All I can say about Woren's reply in reference to Mr. I of FI the OEM vendor..
is... I would never buy a single thing from IBM if I made it a personal issue,
BUT I have lots of friends at BIG BLUE.. and I respect the company and its
mult-years of trying to meet the users needs.... same goes with FI... and my
experience is that they also are trying to meet the user worlds needs....

  Thanks and my ALL have a Good-Day and Weekend.. Bill at, US/FDA,PCC
------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

> I think each package has their followers and there are good and bad
> points for all of them. I have never used anything but IOF for the
> last 10 years. The latest release of IOF (release 7) has some very nice
> enhancements:
>
>  - full screen device control (NJE,RJE,INITIATORS,PRINTERS,OFFLOAD...)
>  - 1 to 8 job prefixes or all jobs selected (controlled thru profile)
>  - capability to build a 2 level index associated with a jobs output
>    (can any other package go to page 3000 of a 5000 page rpt in 2 sec)
>    (or have all the total pages of a large finance report indexed by
>     department or any other combination you would like)
>  - invoke a clist that will trim down the 80 production jobs that you
>    have to check every day, to show jobs that abended or had non zero
>    return codes
>
> It's hard to convince people that one thing is better than another if
> they are capable of the same functions. To really get their intrest,
> show them something they can't do now that they would really like.
>
>
> Ken Sears.
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From: NREEVES@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU (Nancy Reeves)
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Subject: going to esa 1.1
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:55:19 GMT
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Mike,
    I don't know about the rest of your products, but I know that
PROFS becomes unsupported (but supposedly works). We switched to OfficeVision
when we went to VM/ESA.  I wasn't very involved in the planning, but if
you have specific questions I could let you know if we had to deal with it.
One note, we left all users in 370 mode for the cut to ESA. Then we started
with in-house people switching to MACHINE ESA. Lots of tools and small
packages didn't work right in ESA mode.

Good luck!

Nancy Reeves

Technical Support Analyst        bitnet: nreeves@twsuvm
Wichita State University         internet: nreeves@twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:57:17 CDT
From:         Galen Tillery <RGTILLER@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      VM/VTAM Consortium version

Greetings:
We are beginning to consider VM/VTAM and noticed that the consortium group
lists ACF/VTAM for VM/ESA.

Does this mean that I must be running VM/ESA in order to get this
VTAM version to work on my system?

Thanks, Galen.
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