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From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Animator: Progressive Rock from Champaign
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:51:16 GMT

In article <C19Er2.6uJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ekl35091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (larkin erik keith) writes:
>To everyone:
>
>O K, I'm sorry i forgot to post the price of the CD
>please find it in your hearts to forgive me.
>if you would like the Animator CD it is
>$10 + $2 shipping and handling (that's $12 total
>for those who have an arithmetic problem)

Is this the same CD 'Gallery' that I bought a couple years ago?

Mike
-- 
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* From the pain come the dream, From the dream come the vision, From the *
* vision come the people, And from the people come the power, From this  *
* power come the change.  - P. Gabriel                                   *
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From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (Craig Shipley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd
Subject: Djam karet news
Keywords: djam karet CD
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:45:09 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp. Annapolis Junction, MD

According to the Winter 1992 edition of i/e Magazine (an _excellent_
US progressive-rock & electronic magazine), in an interview of Djam
Karet, it appears that we can expect a CD release of the _The_Ritual_
Continues_ in the near future, along with a yet unnamed, no details,
new release.

The Djam Karet interview is great, the first i have ever seen on this
excellent American progressive band. Definitly check out this magazine,
lotsa profiles on the various US progressive labels (Syn-Phonic, Kinetic,
Coriloris, etc), Musea, etc. And over 100 progressive/electronic reviews.
Interview with Edgar Froese of TD, too. A proggers' dream come true!

-- 

Regards,

Craig Shipley

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    ---mmm----- Pyramid Technology Corporation 
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  Opinions expressed here, if any, are my own and not Pyramid's.
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From: allan@hpopf2.cern.ch (Allan Skillman)
Subject: Fish and cover artwork
Keywords: Fish
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:11:41 GMT

I picked up the new Fish CD on saturday and I was wondering if anybody out 
there knows whether Mark Wilkinson has stopped doing the cover artwork for
Fish for good or just for this CD. I always look forward to seeing a new
piece of work on the Fish covers and was rather dissapointed at the lack
of one on "Songs from the Mirror"

				 
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: holdsworth, bruford
Reply-To: dmandl@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:08:07 GMT

In article eF0oXB5w165w@bluemoon.use.com, buzzsaw@bluemoon.use.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:
>     [...] In his book, "When In Doubt, Roll," Bruford states [...]
>

What?!  I've never heard of this book.  Is it an autobiography?
Is it available anywhere?

   --Dave.


Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Univers Zero
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:35:51 GMT

timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein) writes:
>Is Univers Zero's album "1313" representative?
>Specifically, if I don't like "1313", will I not like "Ceux Du Dehors"
>either?

I think some other folks (Peter?) had mentioned finding this one much 
harder to get into than later works. I'd say that I think the later
ones (HEATWAVE and UZED come more to mind than CEUX DU DEHOURS) have
more guitar and are somewhat more accessible, but it's been argued
that 1313 and maybe even the entire output of the band is NOT anything
to do with rock music. To me if it has searing guitarwork and manic
drumming it's got some relationship to the rock medium, but that's IMHO. 

   - Malcolm   
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From: decouty@irisa.fr (Bertrand DECOUTY, Atelier)
Subject: Re: Soft Machine
Reply-To: decouty@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA-INRIA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes Cedex, FRANCE
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 09:29:41 GMT

In article 3k0ZXB3w165w@bluemoon.use.com, buzzsaw@bluemoon.use.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:
>     Since there's been talk about Soft Machine recently, I'd like to 
>voice a question about them that I've had for some time.
>     I have Soft Machine's second and third albums.  I like the second 
>album a lot, but the third I find rather dull aside from "Moon In June." 
>Now, I love a lot of the other Canterbury-fusion groups (Hatfield and the 
>North, Moerlen's Gong, and so on), so are the later Soft Machine albums 
>distinctly different or better than the third?  Any reply would be much 
>appreciated.
>
>     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
>     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa

IMHO, the best Soft machine records are the first 3 LP, perhaps with 4.
After, they play something like jazz-rock which has nothing to do with
their previous work.

Look at their first LP, to the Peel sessions (in mono) and perhaps to
"Live at proms" which i have not yet heard. You can also have an hear
to their very-first LP, with Daevid Allen and Kevin Ayers (also on 1)
which has appeared under different names.

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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Clearlight ?
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:31:14 GMT

decouty@irisa.fr (Bertrand DECOUTY, Atelier) writes:
>>They have one other album out on CD that I know about, called Symphony.
>>I like it, and it is quite similar to FBB but not quite as good.  
>>Hillage plays on it, but David Cross does not (Cross is on FBB).
>>I also heard (but it is unsubstantiated) that the bubble sound effect
>>is from Lawrence Welks bubble machine.  They are from France.  That
>>is just about all I know,  anyone else....?
>>-Mike
>>

>"Symphonie" is their first LP, "FBB" the second one (1975, produced by
>Mick Glossop), the next one being "Les contes du singe fou", recorded
>in november 1976 and produced by Joel Dugrenot, who plays bass guitar.

>Clearlight is headed by Cyrille Verdeaux, who plays keyboards.

>Last word: yes they are from France, although some players are not french.

Cyrille Verdeaux was living in Santa Cruz a few years ago and had a local
band together. He released an lp around 1987 called Messenger of the Sun,
which I find very Clearlight-ish and pretty enjoyable. he's also done a 
number of new age tapes and releases reputed to be less interesting. I 
think he still occassionally spends time in California but still lives in
France. Someone told me he was in the US again a few months ago.  

 CLEARLIGHT
 FOREVER BLOWING BUBBLES
 1975       UK        VIRGIN                    V 2039

 CLEARLIGHT
 SYMPHONY
 1975       UK        VIRGIN                    V 2029

 CLEARLIGHT
 LES CONTES DU SINGE FOU
 1976       FR        ISADORA/RCA               ISA 9009

 CLEARLIGHT
 VISIONS
 1978       FR        LTM                       1005

I think there may be a SYMPHONY II release on cd also from more recent
years. One of the last two I think has vocals and is somewhat less
interesting than the others. I find Symphony a bit loose and that it 
loses my interest sometimes; I probably prefer FBB. The later two I 
have on tape and can't recall much about at this time. I think I liked
one a lot and didn't like the other. I assume that Visions is the one
I don't like as much. Didn't we have this thread already a few months ago? 
Where's Peter Thelen at when you need him? 

Here's some of the solo Verdeaux info. The MESSENGER OF THE SON release 
was on Catero records around 1987-88.

 VERDEAUX, CYRILLE
 (CASSETTE-ONLY) MOEBIUS
 1981       US        SOUNDINGS OF THE PLANET   (NO #)

 VERDEAUX, CYRILLE
 (CASSETTE-ONLY) OFFRANDES
 1984       US        SOUNDINGS OF THE PLANET   (NO #)

 VERDEAUX, CYRILLE
 (CASSETTE-ONLY) KUNDALINI OPERA - FIFTH CHAKRA: SHAMBALA
 198?       US        EUROCK                    EDC 11

 VERDEAUX, CYRILLE
 (CASSETTE-ONLY) KUNDALINI OPERA - FIRST CHAKRA: IMPOSSIBLE SYMPHONY
 198?       US        EUROCK                    EDC 7

 VERDEAUX, CYRILLE
 (CASSETTE-ONLY) KUNDALINI RACE 
 (report was corrupt and other data lost)

  - Malcolm
From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Question about Jobson
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:23:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <1993Jan21.203536.28331@leland.Stanford.EDU> kellyj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kelly Johnson) writes:
> In article <C17ryp.4vJ@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca> waleed@sun14.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Fakhr M. Waleed) writes:
> >Excuse my ignorance, what did Jobson do after UK? 
> >and are any of these works worth buying?
> >
> >Thanks alot
> >Waleed
> 
> For one thing, he did a solo album called "Zinc" which I happen to really like.


Agreed!  One of the finest albums to come out of the 80's.  Funny
thing, I remember skipping classes one day and caught an interview
between J.J. Jackson and Jobson on MTV!  They then went on to show the
video for "Turn it Over".

BTW, I believe the albums's name is "The Green Album", and his backup
band's name was Zinc...

BTW (again), whatever happened to the "Pink Album".  Remember, "Green is now,
and Pink is next"...


> It contains alot of stuff that still showcases his electric violin instead of
> just keyboards.  I think it's probably hard to find these days though.  I have
> it on vinyl.  Later, he did solo work on a "New Age" type of label.  He doesn't
> seem to use the violin much anymore (correct me anyone if I'm wrong).  


The album was "Theme of Secrets" released on the Private Music label.
Very moody album composed and performed completely on the Synclavier
music system (my next synth....someday... ;-(  I like it quite a bit.
He also performed two piano pieces on "Piano One", also on Private
Music.  

And, no, he doesn't use his violin much anymore...a shame too.  Much
like Billie Currie.  


Kevin



-- 
Kevin J. Jarnot (jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu)      | "The monkey-boys are evil - 
Lead Programmer/Analyst/Keyboardist             | Lord Whorfin is supreme..."
Univ. of Pennsylvania Language Analysis Center  |  
3700 Market St, Suite 202  Phila, PA 19104      |       "Vita Non Jerk"
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From: kellyj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kelly Johnson)
Subject: Steve Hacket - Unauthorised Bio
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:20:05 GMT

Does anyone know anything about a Steve Hacket album I saw in the
store the other day called "Unauthorised Biography".  It appears to
be a collection of previously released songs.  Judging by the price
of the CD it also appears to be an import.  It wasn't a bootleg
was it?  Has anyone heard it?
From: bain1@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Who knows these bands?
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:52:43 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1993Jan22.192336.5987@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Michael.Versemann@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Michael Versemann) writes:
> Hi Folx.
> 
> I hope anyone can tell me something about these two bands:
> Peter Hammill
> Van Der Graaf Generator
> 
> Any comment, statistics or ftp-sites etc.
> will be taken.
> 
> Thanx in advance, Mike
> -- 

Peter Hammill is the ex- singer,songwriter,lyricist and pretentious bore of the
classic band that was VDGG. His solo output is prolific and varied. He tends to
write songs full of 'meaningfull' lyrics. You'll either love him or hate him.
If you like wierd-sounding prog., then try 'In Camera', which is my favourite.
If you prefer hard edged rock, you should try the eighties stuff, especially
with the 'K' group on albums like 'The Margin'.
Much has been written about VDGG, so I won't go on about them too much. Suffice
to say that they were seminal and wildly experimental earlier on. The line-up
was Hammill (guitar/vocals), Hugh Banton (organ), Dave Jackson (Sax, Flute),
and Guy Evans (Drums), who later turned up in eighties incarnations of Amon
Duul. There were variations early on, and occasional guest appearances by
Robert Fripp. 
Their output was split into two 'eras'. The early seventies - wildly
experimental prog. rock, and the mid-to-late seventies stuff, with a much
thinner, harder sound. The bext of the lot is, in my opinion, 'Pawn Hearts'
from 1971, though some say that 1976s 'Still Life' is great. It's all pretty
good stuff though. Pawn Hearts is way, way ahead of its time, and doesn't sound
all that dated today. I'll finish with a VDGG discography (a PH one would
take far too long!)
  The Aerosol Grey Machine
  The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other
  H to He Who Am The Only One
  Pawn Hearts
  <Gap of a few years>
  Godbluff
  Still Life
  World Record (a truly awful album)
  The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome
  Vital - Van Der Graaf Live.
The last two albums are done under the name of 'Van Der Graaf', after another
lineup change. Don't buy 'Vital' first - it's not representative.

  - Mark
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From: oxha6397@mach1.wlu.ca (Jody O'halloran u)
Subject: Re: If I like King Crimson, who else should I l
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:59:19 GMT

Anyone ever hear of GENTLE GIANT?
                    Free Hand is one of the greats!


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From: reaume@bmerh962.bnr.ca (Andy Reaume)
Subject: Ottawa ELP fans - PLEASE READ
Keywords: ELP Elephant & Castle
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:19:27 GMT

	Since it appears, to myself at least, that there is
a higher proportion of postings from Ottawa, Canada than any
other location on this newsgroup, let's meet after the ELP
concert tonight at the Elephant & Castle in the Rideau Centre.
I thought this would be the most convenient location, not the
most appropriate one, so we can then decide if we want to take
our business elsewhere to discuss the only true form of rock 
music. My friends an I will be by the bar but I'll inform the
hostess so that anyone looking for Andy or Greg can find us. 

Anticipating another great ELP performance!

--- Andy (613)763-7325 (O)
	 (613)596-4263 (H)
Andy Reaume               |  Any opinion expressed is not that of 
Bell-Northern Research    |  BNR, myself or anyone else. it's my 
Ottawa, Canada            |  evil twin brother's!
From: casey@antithesis.engin.umich.edu (Daniel Scott Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: New NA bands
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:47:04 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: antithesis.engin.umich.edu
Originator: casey@antithesis.engin.umich.edu


i will 3rd, 4th, and 5th all of the previous recommendations for
Echolyn. i have both of their 2 cds, and i can say that they do
what they do so very well, i dont think any new band in the last
couple of years can rival this stuff. people try to list their
influences, which is hard to do, but imho marillion and Yes are
the most obvious. but echolyn is totally original, and i think
they actually DO break new ground. they are young and a have a
very bright future ahead of them. one of the best things about them
is that the vocals and melodies are so skillfully crafted that
they set this band apart from a lot of bands who have potential
but need a solid frontman/singer (e.g. Jadis, imho...and others).
Echolyn. Check it out.

dsc

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From: moleface@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (Moleface)
Subject: Yes discography
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:49:57 GMT

I'm sure this'll piss people off, but the other day I saw a complete Yes  
discography complete with solo albums, etc.  I thought I'd saved it, but  
evidently not.  If someone out there has it, could you please mail a copy  
to moleface@wam.umd.edu?  Thanks.
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From: mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat)
Subject: Re: Tape Swaps - Early Pink Floyd
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:50:10 GMT

Alexander Feygin (feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: jeanthea@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Jeantheau) writes:
: } My tape deck can record two tapes at once, so I now have a spare set of
: } these tapes.  I'm interested in trading them for tapes of something
: } I don't have.  I have most mainstream art rock (progressive rock), but
: } I'm sure I'm missing a lot of good stuff.
: 
: making tapes off of readily available albums for anyone besides 
: yourself is nothing less than piracy.
: 
: there is no justification for this.
: 
You sound pretty self-righteous. The fact is, Pink Floyd won't lose any money
on this. Roger lost almost one million dollars on his "Pros and cons" tour.
His comment was "I've made lots of money in the music business. if I have to 
lose some, that's ok."  If anything, giving out a sampling of old Floyd
stuff will cause the buyer to become interested enough to go out and buy the
albums.  If you're worried about Syd, he has enough money in the bank to last
for a while, considering he has no concept of money and never buys anything
except paint and food. 

There's nothing wrong with copying tapes, although it would be better to save 
that step and go out right now and buy the CDs instead.  

: -- 
:    Alexander Feygin           "Tell me something I don't know"
:   a-feygin@uiuc.edu                      --Ministry
: 
: The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO

--

Snarfblat                
Neural Amusement Coordinator and Chief BioSpastic Engineer,
Durex Blender Corporation
                         
    	                "If I were the moon, I'd be cool"
                                 -Pink Floyd

mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu                                   My .sig hates you.

note that I have no disclaimer. you are free to believe that this post contains
Amherst College's official opinion on copying floyd tapes. if you are that 
stupid, you don't deserve to know the truth.


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From: ekl35091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (larkin erik keith)
Subject: Midwestern Prog
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:08:37 GMT

To Dave and all others interested:

Dave posted the question is there any other new progressive bands in
the midwest.  The only other one i know of off hand (i'll get back
with you for more Dave) is Ecolyn (i'm not sure about the spelling).
They are from Pennsylvania if you consider that midwest.  Their first
CD is a very good work and i can hear faint influences of Kansas in it.
They've just released their second CD, and though i haven't heard it
yet, I have a freind that says Gentle Giant influences can be heard.
I'll post again with info on how to get their CD's and more info on
the band. (...and yes, even the price)

					 R. Marc Phillips
					 Animator Psuedo-manager
					 curmp@.bgu.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers)
Subject: Re: New Steve Howe release
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:56:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.151850.11543@vax.oxford.ac.uk> nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>> What's so wrong with Relativity records?
>
>Apart from the fact that "Turbulence" was very expensive on import
>in the UK and was based mostly on tunes in "Union" already, nothing...
>...I think they'd be wise not to print SH's cosmic philosophy on
>the sleeve this time, too.
>
>Graham Nelson (Oxford, UK)

I only notice two themes that duplicate on Union and Turbulence: _Sensitive 
Chaos_/_I could have waited forever_ and _The Inner Battle/_Silent Talking_. 

Now, if two themes is "mostly based upon..."

In any case, I'm sure that they are Steve Howe's melodies and a likely
scenario would probably be:

Jon:   That sounds great.  Let's use it.
Steve: Okay.  I'll have Brian call the lawyers and get the publishing
       staightened out.


As for his cosmic philosophy, I don't care for it much either, but a man
who plays guitar like that can have as many quirks as he wants. :-)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: etcetera@daimi.aau.dk (Frank Carvalho)
Subject: Re: Celtic Rock
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:42:57 GMT

ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk (Ian Coleman) writes:

>Runrig are a Scottish band that I first encountered playing
>support for Genesis on the last tour. I was not overly impressed
>at the time, but have since borrowed a few of their albums
>and their sound is growing on me.

They are very good live! They have a tremendous popularity in Denmark,
and I think I have heard them play here three times already. One of their
sing-alongs is called `Alba' - a  celtic word for Scotland I think -  so
that's what it`s all about.

Frank Carvalho

>---
>Ian Coleman      | "Long in the day, moon on the rise
>ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk |  she sighs with a smile in her eyes..." 
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From: dayton@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael A Dayton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Djam karet news
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:33:43 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Keywords: djam karet CD, i/e magazine

In article <10249@pyrdc.UUCP> craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (Craig Shipley) writes:

>According to the Winter 1992 edition of i/e Magazine (an _excellent_
>US progressive-rock & electronic magazine),

[stuff deleted]

>Definitly check out this magazine,
>lotsa profiles on the various US progressive labels (Syn-Phonic, Kinetic,
>Coriloris, etc), Musea, etc. And over 100 progressive/electronic reviews.
>Interview with Edgar Froese of TD, too. A proggers' dream come true!



Exactly!  I picked up a copy of this magazine about four days ago,
and _still_ have not been able to digest it all.  Fantastic!  I will
check my copy for an address and post it soon,  but if you see this
is a store, buy it!   You won't be disappointed.

mike


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