HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Alan Zibel <azibel@acpub.duke.edu>
Subject: Al ponders junta release
Reply-To: azibel@acpub.duke.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:02:28 GMT

I enjoy Junta very much; its high quality brings back memories of my first
Phish experiencess...Never have I felt so emotionally uplifted by the
immortal lyrics "I saw you...with that ticketstub in your hand!"
	However, while listening to Golgi, I was struck by the amount of 
popular appeal that song could have...What would happen if it got radio airplay
Would people walk the streets singing that refrain, much as they did with 
the Spin Doctors' "Two Princes"?
	Mind you, I think that Phish is a good thing, and more people should
listen to them. But I'm just worried that the magic of songs such as Golgi
Apparatus will be lost if it gets popularized. Phish does have many songs that
have potential mass appeal: Golgi, Suzy Greenberg, Runaway Jim...I know that
this debate has been gone through already, but with the re-release of Junta, 
is it possible that the album will really latch on to the music-buying public?
	I'm not quite sure. There is enough absolutely bizarre stuff on the 
album so that one has to has to have a deeper appreciation of phish to 
comprehend. Sometimes, however, I find myself wondering "Why the hell did they
do this?" (e.g.: the ear-splitting guitar blast in the middle of Sanity).
	So what do you all think? Is Phish making themselves inaccessible to
the general public, so they don't go the way of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, 
the Spin Doctors or Jane's Addiction?
	On a related issue, does anyone know how sales of Lawn Boy and 
Picture of Nectar have been? Obviously, Electra has confidence in the band, 
or else they wouldn't release 4 CDs in a year's time...but exactly how well 
are they doing..
					-allllll









Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Timothy J. Dalton" <dalton@mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: Suggestion for NYE Gathering
Reply-To: dalton@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:12:10 GMT


Suggestion for NYE Gathering:

Boston Beer Works, on Brookline Street, Next to Fenway Park.
Its on the green line of the T, so its easy to get to
NorthEastern from there.

Big menu of food and a good variety of beers.

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "I AM THE TERROR, THAT FLAPS IN THE NIGHT...!!!" <JOHNSORN@bcvax1.bc.edu>
Subject: TAPE TREE ANNOUNCEMENT (Phish 4-6-92)
Reply-To: johnsorn@bcvax1.bc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:47:55 GMT

This is the tape tree announcement for the Phish show at 
Western State College in Gunnison Colorado on April 6, 1992.

The seed for this tree is a 2nd generation Soundboard provided by Lar Halff.
The show will fit on two 90 minute tapes.

4-6-92 
Western State College 
Gunnison Coloraldo 

I,A: Suzie Greenberg               II,A: Dinner and a Movie
     Foam                                Bathtub Gin
     Sparkle                             Paul and Silas
     Reba                                Mike's Song ->
     Brother                             I Am Hydrogen ->
     Esther                              Weekapaug Groove
                                         In An Intensive Care Unit (NICU)
  B: Chalkdust Torture                   Llama
     Guelah Papyrus
     The Squirming Coil               B: Mound
     Run Like An Antelope                Stash
                                         Cracklin' Rosie
                                         Uncle Pen
                                         Cavern

                                         E: Big Black Furry Creature From Mars
    

This tree will consist of three pieces: root/trunk, branches and leaves.  Each 
person should specify which piece of the tree they wish to participate in by 
specifying one of the following codes with their request:

code	position	format

1	branch		cassette, no dolby
2	leaf		cassette, no dolby
3	branch		cassette, dolby b
4	leaf		cassette, dolby b
5	branch		cassette, dolby c
6	leaf		cassette, dolby c
7	branch		DAT
8	leaf		DAT

Being a branch leader indicates that you are willing to make tapes for up to
five copies of the tapes for other people.To become involved in the tree, send 
your information to the following address:

johnsorn@bcvms.bc.edu

Note:  You will not receive a reply stating that your message has been received.
An initial list will be posted for pholks to check.  Be sure to include the 
following information when sending in your request:

NAME:
ELECTRONIC MAIL ADDRESS:
ALTERNATE ELECTRONIC MAIL ADDRESS (IF YOU HAVE ONE):
US MAIL ADDRESS:
PHONE#:
TREE CODE:
TYPE OF DUBBING EQUIPMENT USED:
DO YOU HAVE PHISH TAPES TO TRADE WITH YOUR TREE PARENT?:
DO YOU HAVE GRATEFUL DEAD TAPES...?:
ARE YOU PLANNING ON SENDING BLANKS?:

Using the above template will make your request easier to parse.
The last day for signup for the tree will be November 22nd.

Smile!

Robert Johnson
From: darkmage@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Dark Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: unknown tape
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:16:29 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


I've got a tpae here and was hoping to get a date for it....

Glide, Caverns, Rift, Fluffhead,Eliza, Mike's Song, McGrupp, Stash, 
Cracklin Rosie, Possum.

I would assume it's late spring 92 tour but would appreciate it if 
someone could give me a date...


Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
DM
From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Erik Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Al ponders junta release
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:32:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Alan Zibel <azibel@acpub.duke.edu> writes:

>	However, while listening to Golgi, I was struck by the amount of 
>popular appeal that song could have...What would happen if it got radio airplay
>Would people walk the streets singing that refrain, much as they did with 
>the Spin Doctors' "Two Princes"?
>	Mind you, I think that Phish is a good thing, and more people should
>listen to them. But I'm just worried that the magic of songs such as Golgi
>Apparatus will be lost if it gets popularized. Phish does have many songs that
>have potential mass appeal: Golgi, Suzy Greenberg, Runaway Jim...I know that
>this debate has been gone through already, but with the re-release of Junta, 
>is it possible that the album will really latch on to the music-buying public?
	My friend says she's absolutely sure she remembers hearing Reba when
she lived on the East Coast a couple years ago.  My dad also claims he's heard
Chalkdust Torture played on the local rock station.  My friend says, however,
that they cut Reba just after the "bag it, tag it" refrain that comes before
the mega-compositional-jam, making it radio-playable.

	I haven't heard any phish on the radio on the west coast other than
what the local dead radio show has put on the air (and those have been all
my tapes) however.  Admittedly, phish popularity is much lower here- I know
only a few people who are into them, and this is at UCSC, the deadhead
capital of the world ;-)


-- 
---
David Konerding						   rafael@cats.ucsc.edu
University of California, Santa Cruz
From: jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu (Mike Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: tape grovel
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:19:48 GMT
Reply-To: jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu
Organization: The Internet


Does anybody out there have a copy of Phish (listed in HPB as first release,
unofficial album).  If you do and wold be willing to trade with me, please
respond with e-mail.  Thanks for at least thinking about it.

-Mike J.
jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Undeliverable Mail
Date: 11 Nov 1992 06:39:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov11.012209.10845@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> SMTP@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes:
>Felicia (FEE)
>------------------------------- Original Message -------------------------------
[header deleted]
[another header deleted]
.
.
. 
>Your message, which will be appended below, was sent
>to phish-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu rather than to
>phish@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu; thus it was received only by Sean Kennedy
>and myself, rather than being delivered to the list.  This is what happens
>if you use the "r" command to "reply" to the digest - the replies go to
>the service address because we need to know when digests bounce or when
>there are other delivery problems.  So if you want to send your message
>to the net at large, re-send it to phish@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu.
[another header deleted]
[message body deleted] 

Say folks...if you accidently send your message to the wrong address and
I forward it back to you for re-submission to the digest, please trim the
headers that have accumulated along the way before re-sending it, 'kay?

thanks!
Shelly
From: carltonj@media.mit.edu (Carlton J. Sparrell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Just for the Record
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:23:14 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <1992Nov9.194126.797@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> JBOWER@acc.haverford.edu writes:
>I just got back from Just For The Record on Lancaster Ave. in Bryn Mawr.
>They told me that they have their shipment of Junta in and it will be on sale
>tomorrow for $19.99 (not bad for a double disc, IMHO).  Just wanted to 
>let you know...
>
>jb

I saw it today (monday) here in Boston (Newbury Comics).  They had it for
$15.99 but of course they couldn't sell it to me because it isn't
officially released until tuesday.  

CJS
From: jeff@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Stony Brook Info + gathering
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:03:45 GMT
Reply-To: jeff@insti.physics.sunysb.edu
Organization: The Internet

A bunch of fellow Stony Brookers wrote: (Hi Guys..)

| (Niranjan)
| Subject: Re: Stony Brook gathering?
| Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:34:50 GMT
| 
| In article <1992Nov7.052329.26537@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> MIBOWMAN@ccmail.sunysb.edu writes:
| >town. Best place I can think of is a small dive called Station Pizza. 
| 
| Too small a place. It can hold what, 15 people max? (Unless it has changed
| in recent times)
| 
| How about EndofTheBridge?
   
   End of the Bridge is a bar, not ideal, plus it probably won't be 
   open on Saturday Afternoon.. Is It? Niranjan, do you frequent it on 
   Saturday afternoon? :-)

   I'm suggesting the "fireside" lounge in the Union. It's certainly
   "all ages", big enough, easy to find, you used to be able to
   get away with drinking in there (stealthily), and it's near the
   box office.

   All this information (where the fireside lounge is, where Station Pizza is,
   Very explicit directions to Stony Brook, etc, etc) is in the
   file of information that I'm emailing out to anyone who asks.

   I'll probably post it too -- if anyone has a strong objection,
   email me otherwise I'll do it on Monday. It's a few screens
   worth...

   Want a copy in the meantime? Email me...

   Jeff.

-- 
--------------------------------------------
Jeff Althoff    jeff@insti.physics.sunysb.edu
From: ijoseph@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Isaac Josephson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Another Chicago Show
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:37:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov6.173743.10146
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Nov4.210336.20931@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> XLA0BMB%LUCCPUA.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>
>Dear People,  Another show will be added at the Vic theater in
>   Chicago on Sunday December 6.  These tickets go on sale
>   this Saturday at 10 a.m. cst.  Ticketmaster #(312) 559-1212
>   The box office will NOT sell tickets over the phone.
>     Ben Burton.


	YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	
herbivores ate well cause their food didn't ever run..
From: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com (Jeff Maggard 11-Nov-1992 2311)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: ZZZZZZHUNTA!  (a comment)
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:13:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov12.041301.28443
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet


Being a former Floridian (for about a third of my life), I resent that my
favorite band makes fun of Jimmy Buffet on their new album!

- jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Davis, Matthew" <DAVISM@dickinson.edu>
Subject: Re: Right on, Reis.
Reply-To: DAVISM@dickinson.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:09:31 GMT

Dear Friends-
After having read many messages on the net about Phish's growing popularity, 
I'd like to add my two cents worth. I definitely agree with John S. that we 
should let people tap into this amazing musical energy that we are all so 
fond of. However, I can also see where people are coming from they say that 
they dislike how Phish is becoming so popular. I don't have a problem with 
more people getting into Phish, I do have a problem though when people don't 
undrestand what the music is all about. I think that the reason why most 
people like Phish so much is the feeling they get when they hear it. For me 
one of the greatest things in the world is to be at a show and just be able 
to groove to the music. The feeling is almost orgasmic! But on e of the worst 
things is to be grooving to an intense jam and have a drunk meathead frat-boy 
come and stand on my feet and just totally kill the buzz. This has started to 
happen to me alot more at recent shows, and I think that this is what people 
are talking about when they say how they don't like how Phish is becoming 
popular. I'm not trying to offend anyone, or say that anyone else is wrong. 
I'm just talking from my own experiences because I love the music that Trey, 
Mike, Page, and Fish are able to produce and I really love to be able to 
groove to it at a show. Later!
                               -Matt Davis
                  Laugh & Laugh & Fall Apart
From: loiselle@cs.umass.edu (Cindy, the Coaster Rider)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: New Year's Eve
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:33:20 GMT
Organization: COINS, UMass, Amherst
From: loiselle@cs.umass.edu  (Cindy, the Coaster Rider)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: New Year's Eve
Date:  6 NOV 92 00:06:40    
Distribution:  world
Organization:  COINS, UMass, Amherst
-Message-Text-Follows-
fromm@rock.enet.dec.com (Rich Fromm) writes...
>brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

>|The subway system in Boston is very easy to use, and it will
>|take you just about anywhere you need to go.
> 
>well, first off i take a little exception to it taking you just about anywhere 
>you need to go (it's not nearly as extensive as the NYC subway), but a very 
>important consideration is that it DOES NOT RUN ALL NIGHT! [...]
>times vary for different lines, but typically the last train 
>departs around 12:30 AM; i don't know if the city extends the hours on new 
>year's; if they had any brains at all, they would, but i make no guarantees

Boston is home to the original "First Night" celebration.  I went a few years
ago and I know the subways ran a little later that year.  They were, however,
*mobbed* (people pushing so hard to get in, we walked three miles instead)
right after the fireworks at midnight.  Any trains running out to Northeastern
might be significantly less crowded, though.  But as Rich sez, I can't
guarantee that, or how late they'll be running.  Someone from the Boston
area should be able to fill everyone in once First Night information is
published, at least on subway (more properly, the "T") times that night.

>|I am surprised
>|no one from Boston has posted any info on hotels or other accomodations.

Again, because of First Night, I imagine things will get booked up well
in advance, especially anything within walking distance of downtown.

And speaking of First Night, do plan to come into town early to enjoy the
festivities!  A purchased button (probably around $10 or so) will let
you in to all the events, but many things will be happening in the parks
and in the streets, which will all be free.  Events range from performance
art in the picture windows of stores to sculptures on Boston Common.  There
might be a steel drum band, or a participatory Scottish Dance session.
The year I went, one of the government building was turned into the "Oracle"
that answered questions from the partcipants, and I recall one amazing
light sculpture that looked like a single beam of red light, until you
glanced away, and then you were able to see an image (of a globe, running
horse, etc.) as your eye scanned across the beam.  Family events will start
in the afternoon and there should be plenty of stuff happening in the early
evening in time to check out before the concert.

Please note that First Night is alcohol free and well policed.  When I
went the police were very civil, but they *did* require that any drinks
be emptied out into the drains.  It is intended to be a family event,
appropriate for all ages, throughout the evening.  If you come, please
respect the spirit of the event.   But it's still great fun, with lots
of totally cool stuff happening all over the downtown/backbay area.

                                           Cindy
From: me24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Eggar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: help.
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:44:34 GMT
Reply-To: me24+@andrew.cmu.edu
Organization: The Internet


	Hi, I'm a phishy phisher, and I need two things. First, I need the
lyric phile. SOMEBODY PLEASE SEND IT TO ME!!
next, and even more important, I know its probably rediculous to ask
this but does anybody want to part with two portchester tix? please?
please?
	me24@andrew.cmu.edu


	lookin forward 2 thanxgivin
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Doug Coe <EWKX@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re:  Junta Packaging
Reply-To: EWKX@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:50:45 GMT



<brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu> writes:

| in my opinion. Why does the CD come wrapped in plastic,
| surrounded by cardboard, and wrapped in plastic again? This
| is bad, and our landfills don't want the shit. One thing
| we could do is send in the cardboard box, plus any plastic
| left(although it's probably on its way to the landfill
| now) back to Elektra with a letter telling them to use
| more ecologically sound packaging(recycled plastic, LESS
| plastic, recycled cardboard). There are better alternatives

I agree with your problem with the plastic--it's kind of
rediculous to wrap the CD inside the box.

I do recall, though, as I was opening the longbox, noticing:
"printed on recycled cardboard" somewhere on the box.
Let's at least give them credit where credit is due.

Also, given the uniqueness of Junta's longbox, I hope that
it is not destined for the landfill...why not hang it up
on the wall?  Cool artwork!!

Just MHO...
--
=======================================================
 Doug Coe
 ewkx@CornellA.CIT.Cornell.edu
 "I'm running so fast, my feet don't touch the ground!"
=======================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: 3_MANDERER@fair1.fairfield.edu
Subject: BINGHAMTON
Reply-To: 3_MANDERER@fair1.fairfield.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:21:49 GMT

	Help, lookinfg forone ticket for Biunghamton show on 11/23/92.	If possible
will tape show and can offer trade for ticket. any offer s excepted, no reasonable
refused.
						mike- a taper in trouble

		The tires are the things on you r car....
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "LAUGHING AT MYSELF" <leaf@kenyon.edu>
Subject: stonybrook
Reply-To: leaf@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:57:31 GMT

How does the train station pizza place sound for a pre show gathering.  We can
go out to Dinner and a Phish Show (ooooh!  ahhhhh!).  If you haven't asked for
info from Jeff yet, I highly recomend it.  Thanks Jeff ;^)
	If there are any other suggestions for the gathering, please write in.
				Matt Leaf
	T-Minus 11 days and counting!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: betteb@rpi.edu
Subject: nifty stuff man
Reply-To: betteb@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:52:57 GMT


	Check this out - I just called Newbury Comics is Nashua, NH, and-

	JUNTA DISCS FOR **********
			* $15.99 *
			**********

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: X5AS000 <X5AS%SLUMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: X5AS%SLUMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:43:27 GMT

Does anyone know of the tour dates for the Spin Doctors? Thanx
             "The spins on me"
From: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott R. Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: personal to Paul
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:54:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov12.045414.2469
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet

Paul,
  My mailbox must have overflowed or something 'cause I lost almost
everything.  This is concerning the Albany show.  When I send mail to
your address (s09210@siena.bitnet) it comes back.  Please email me so
I can reply ASAP.

Thanks a lot!

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Lee Silverman <ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Personal to Scott Holdren
Reply-To: ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:27:58 GMT

Scott,
  Could you please email me at pandion@brown.edu?  Your phish-archives
request is screwed up and my mailer can't resolve your address.
Thanks!


Set the Record Levels for the high gear of your soul!!
Pandion                                       Pandion@Brown.edu
(Lee Silverman)                               ST101137@BROWNVM
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Parker Harrington <74230.2536@compuserve.com>
Subject: Keswick tickets
Reply-To: 74230.2536@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:19:12 GMT

To those of you that got shitty tickets for the Keswick because you thought
tickets were  going on sale Friday of last week and not earlier in the week
like what ended up happening:  I called Electric Factory Concerts and 
explained my predicament- that I had tickets for row Y (the second to last
row in the house) and that I really wanted better tickets since they were
the ones responsible for the tickets going on sale earlier than announced.
They told me to come to their office (Philly) and they gladly exchanged my
tickets for sixth row dead center! Sweet!  I would not normally care about
seat location but this place is real strict about it usually.  You might
want to see if they'll be as kind with you! 
Someone suggested Box of Rain as a meeting place before the show.  I don't
think it is still open and the South Street area is about 40 minutes from 
Glenside where the theater is.

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
Subject: Spin Doctors e-mail list???
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:04:57 GMT

Sorry about this non-Phish question, but since Phish is Phriends with
the Spin Docs, someone oughta know this:

I heard the Spin Doctors have a mailing list on the Internet. Anyone
know is this true, and how do I get on???

Manx a Mlot.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott Ferguson                        Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Project Engineer                      New Jersey
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Always bark at a dog."
From: gertben@ocf.berkeley.edu (Benjamin Gertner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Lost Portchester Offer
Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:03:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

I was writing a message to the guy at Princeton (Tim?) who siad that
he was going home for Thanksgiving and wanted to sell his Portchester
tickets when the host machine went down and I lost his and my message.
I think I am fated not to go to this show. If you are out there, or
if anyone has his e-mail address, please get in touch with me! Again,
I am coming all the way from California and I would really like to
see the Frida show. I can trade very nice soundboards (Thanks Alek and
others) for one or two tickets. You will not be dissapointed if you
offer your tickets to me. Ugh! This is so silly!

-Ben
gertben@ocf.berkeley.edu