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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:32:26 -0400
From:         gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 267

In this issue:
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 264
                         first elected lesbian
                              Arthur Ashe
                           Archival material
                            NYC pride march
                          Coming out Workshop?
                     BROWN BACKING QUEER MARRIAGES
        Colleges and Universities Anti-Discrimination Statements
                   the book "Mayor of Castro Street"
                        Anna Quindlen (NY Times)
                              Gay Games IV
                         First Elected Lesbian
                         Duke U. Awareness Week
                           Christopher Street
                            Misc. Things...
                         Looking for citations.

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 10:47:17 EDT
From: flg <flg@lan.asc.upenn.edu>
Subject: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 264

          re the New York Times, again.
          I certainly wouldn't want to suggest (and didn't) that the
          changes at the New York Times were entirely motivated by
          internal developments (those I mentioned in my previous
          post, plus the death of the homophobic matriarch, who was
          reportedly outraged by an early '70s Travel Section article
          on a 'gay cruise' and demanded a ban on the word 'gay' in
          the NYT). On the contrary, the NYT has been the target of
          queer agitation and negotiation since the very beginning of
          post-Stonewall liberation. There have been successive waves
          of protest/negotiation breaking against the Times' granite
          shores, and they have all played a significant role in
          wearing down the paper's resistance (as they have with other
          media as well), and GLAAD is certainly an important part of
          this ongoing saga.  For one account of the story from a
          while back (covering the early-mid 80s) read George De
          Stefano's article in the ADvocate of 12/9/86, "The New York
          Times vs.  Gay Liberation." For some earlier material,
          Randall Pierson, "Uptight on gay news," in the Columbia
          Journalism Review, March/April, 1982. Also, in relation to
          this and some other questions in recent postings, possibly
          the best general source on the post-Stonewall/pre-AIDS
          period is Toby Marotta's The Politics of Homosexuality (the
          best source on the 40s thru Stonewall is John D'Emilio's Gay
          Politics, Gay Community).
          Larry Gross

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 08:34:13 -0700
From: Jessea N. R. Greenman <jnrg@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: first elected lesbian

Well, the information I have is that one Kathy Kozachenko was elected to
Ann Arbor city council in April 1974 as an out lesbian.

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Subject: Arthur Ashe
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 12:18:59 -0400
From: buckmr@rpi.edu

Arthur Ashe says he most likely contracted HIV in 1983 during his second open
heart surgery. They were not aware that anything was wrong until part of his
brain tissue was biopsied during a  brain surgery in 1988, when it was
discovereed he had toxoplasmosis, one of the diseases that lead to a definition
of ``having AIDS''. They took a blood test and it was found to be HIV+.

So, he has had HIV since around 1983 and AIDS since 1988.

Arthur Ashe was the first African-American *male* to win a grand slam tennis
tournament. I believe there was an African-American woman who won a grand
slam event. [Forgot her name]
---
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.
uunet!rpi.edu!buckmr||buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet||buckmr@rpi.edu||+1 518 276 8910
Samuel R. Delany, Jodie Foster, Barry Diller, Martina Navratilova, k. d. lang,
Audre Lorde, David Geffen, Bob Jackson-Paris, Greg Louganis, Whitney Houston.

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 11:56:13 CDT
From: tpm@anat.UMSMED.EDU (Terence P. Ma)
Subject: Archival material

I have archives of the GayNet postings as of vol. 4 #237.  I don't
have the time right now to go through them for info, but if anyone
needs material from any of those issues, I will forward them if you
tell me what issues you want.
--
Terence P. Ma, Ph.D.		     VOICE:	601-984-1654
Department of Anatomy		     FAX:	601-984-1655
University of Mississippi Med. Ctr.  INTERNET:	tpm@anat.UMSMED.EDU
Jackson, MS 39216-4505		     UUCP:	... uunet!tpm-sprl!tpm

- --> If it were easy, some one would have done it already.  Anon. <----

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Subject: NYC pride march
From: BJKPMA%FARMNTON.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (Brian)
Date:    Thu, 09 Apr 92 13:55:30 EDT

Andy asked for info about the NYC pride march to be sent to him
directly...how about letting the rest of us know, (please?)

Brian Kaufman

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:17 EST
From: STU_EWSHEARI@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Subject: Coming out Workshop?

How's it going?
     I'm new here on GayNet and just thought I'd say hi.  I've been reading
the letters for about 2 weeks now, and I'm really impressed with the attitudes
I've seen (for the most part.)  ;)
     I have a problem, and I was wondering if anyone can help me.  I've been
put in charge of a "Coming Out Workshop" here, a week before it's scheduled
to happen, and I'm really not sure what to do.  If I thought that a bunch of
closeted homosexuals were going to show up, I'd have no trouble, but I don't
see that happening to be honest.  I have a feeling the people who show up are
going to be people who are already out, in which case I'll be preaching to the
choir.  I'm thinking about approaching from a "Coming Out FURTHER" workshop,
but I'm running low on creative ideas.  If anyone has any suggestions, no
matter how boring or even crazy they might sound, please send them to me.
I'd really appreciate it.
                                       Thanks a lot.
                                       Eric Shearin
                                       STU_EWSHEARI@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:29 EDT
From: DREXLECM4443%SNYONEVA.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Re: BROWN BACKING QUEER MARRIAGES
X-Organization: from SUNY College at Oneonta, NY 13820

I can't remember where I read it, but I read that Brown is opposed to a
federal law that would acknowledge same-sex marriages.  Brown said that he
preferred to leave that up to each individual state.

- Drex

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Newsgroups: rpi.mail.gaynet
From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Colleges and Universities Anti-Discrimination Statements
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:29:24 GMT
Apparently-To: rpi-mail-gaynet

dwoolwin@cc.gettysburg.edu writes:

>I know that this has been over the net before, but I would appreciate it if
>someone would send to *my personal e mail address* a list of colleges and
>universities which have an *external* statement prohibiting discrimination
>against gay men, lesbians, and bisexuals, or against any sexual
>orientation. I would especially appreciate seeing versions of wording for
>this statement. The reason I am asking is to be able to pass them on to the
>Provost here at Gettyburg College as part of a continued battle to get the
>Board of Trustees to pass such a statement. Apparently one of the "issues"
>raised by the Board (I suspect in a stalling attempt) is that of
>appropriate "wording" for the statement, as well as questions as to which
>other colleges have such a statement. (As if they couldn't find out
>themselves if they really wanted to!)

Yeah, this excuse sounds like equine fecal matter to me! But, anyway, if ANYONE
would like a list of the organisations that have nondiscrimination clauses
that include sexual orientation they are welcome to go to the QRD and look in
/pub/QRD/qrd/info/LISTS/non-discrim. :-)

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my body hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ soundtrack

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Newsgroups: rpi.mail.gaynet
From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: the book "Mayor of Castro Street"
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:38:11 GMT
Apparently-To: rpi-mail-gaynet

Jessea N. R. Greenman <jnrg@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> writes:

>This book, described by Tim Pierce (a while back, I'm way behind due
>to work pressures and having just moved) as a "brilliant novel," is
>actually nonfiction biography.  Since Time himself is quite brilliant,
>methinks perhaps this was his very clever form of sarcasm.
>Anyway, for the record, Shilts' book on Milk is nonfiction.


Yes, but it is a really thrilling read. It introduced me to the unique joys of
reading non-fiction for pleasure. That book, and AND THE BAND PLAYED ON [also
by Shilts, and also optioned to become a movie; but on HBO] are *Classics*.

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my body hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ soundtrack

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Newsgroups: rpi.mail.gaynet
From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Anna Quindlen (NY Times)
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:41:12 GMT
Apparently-To: rpi-mail-gaynet

PNARDI@PITZER.CLAREMONT.EDU writes:

>Congratulations should be sent to NY Times columnist Anna Quindlen for
>winning a Pulitzer Prize. She is one of the few columnists in a major
>newspaper who consistently writes accurately, positively, and with insight
>about issues related to lesbians/gays. From her articles supporting gays in
>St. Pat's parades, to lesbians adopting children, to her non-gay articles on
>AIDS, on Anita Hill, and other related concerns. Write On!

Definitely! In soc.motss we have been talking about how nice it is to have such
an insightful commentary on the Op-Ed pages of the _NYT_.Anyway, I'm going to
meet Ms. Quindlen in a few weeks at the Empire State Pride Agenda's MOVING OUR
AGENDA conference for New York State activists. We wil be appearing on a media
panel together. Ms. Quindlen is going to be presented with a ``friend of the
community'' award for her "Evan Has Two Moms" and other classic articles.


-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my body hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ soundtrack

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Date:     Thu, 09 Apr 92  15:22 EDT
From: Paul Fortoul <OWL%CCNYVME.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:  Gay Games IV

Gay Games IV are scheduled for June 1994 in New York City.  There is a
press conference scheduled for next Monday (4/13) with Mayor Dinkins to
announce this and a financial impact statement (over $100 million).  In
the meantime the New York in '94 (the sponsors) have sent out a letter to
determine the best dates for the Games in relation to the Stonewall 25
Pride Weekend.  The published scheduled call for the Games to start on
Pride Weekend.  A number of athletes would like to see the Games end on
Pride Weekend.  The cover letter and the beginning of the remaining
information sheets are following (typos are mine).  Anyone interested in
filling out the survey or having questions should contact me or the New
York in '94 office directly.  Any other questions about the Games can
also be directed to the New York in '94 office.  The address and phone
number are in the letter.

   Paul Fortoul
   BITNET:     OWL@CCNYVME
   Internet:   OWL%CCNYVME.BITNET@cuny.cunyvm.edu

   Phone: 212-650-6193  (Wait until Monday - I will be away at a swim
                         meet this weekend.)

The letter follows:


                                          March 23, 1992

Dear Friend:

    We are deep  in the process of carefully  planning the details
for scheduling  of Gay Games IV.    We're writing you to  get your
opinion of what dates are preferred for the 1994 activities.

    The issue is whether it is better for Gay Games IV to BEGIN or
END  on the  huge Gay  Pride  Weekend.   Some  of the  rationales,
additional  information,  and  a calendar  are  enclosed for  your
convenience and reference.

    How do you fit in?   The  Scheduling Committee will report the
findings of this survey to the New York in '94 Board of Directors,
so the  Board can make  a final decision  at its meeting  in early
May, 1992.

    We are  writing to  you as  a designated  representative of  a
sport or city.   Please feel free to give copies of this survey to
all interested  parties.   Note in  completing this  survey answer
form that we want to know whether you are speaking for yourself or
for others in your organization or group.

    The Scheduling Committee needs your  surveys back by APRIL 17,
1992!  Please mail or telefax your response to:

     Scheduling Survey                      TELEFAX:
     New York in '94
     135 W. 20th St., 4th Floor             212-989-7777
     New York, NY  10011

    Thank your in advance for your time and effort.   Please don't
hesitate to  contact us  with any  questions at  the Gay  Games IV
office, 212-633-9494.
                                       Sincerly,

                                       The Scheduling Committee
                                       For 1994 Gay Games IV
                                       and Cultural Festival





                             DATES OF THE GAMES



    Listed below  are the  major reasons supporting  each of  the scheduling
options.  To be concise the general explanations are:



OVERALL RATIONALE

1.   For ENDING the Games on Pride Weekend, 1994 -

           The athletes' ability to compete will be compromised if they have
           to  do so  after an  extremely strenuous  Pride Weekend.    Pride
           Weekend  should  be the  climax  and  culmination of  the  Games.
           Athletes  should be  able  to participate  in  both athletic  and
           celebration activities without compromising either.


2.   For BEGINNING the Games on Pride Weekend, 1994 -

           Pride Weekend should be the enormous kick-off to the Games.   The
           Games needs  its own  time frame and  shouldn't compete  with the
           events of  Pride Week leading up  to Pride Weekend.    Pride Week
           events would tire athletes as much or more than Pride Weekend.

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Newsgroups: rpi.mail.gaynet
From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: First Elected Lesbian
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:44:38 GMT
Apparently-To: rpi-mail-gaynet

C60RBR1%NIU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu writes:

>The lesbian who was first to be elected to public office in the
>United States was Nancy Wechsler of the Ann Arbor Human Rights
>Party in 1972. She and gay man Jerry Degrieck did not come out as
>gay and lesbian until seven months after taking office.For anyone
>who wants the full story, get hold of Anthony Ralph Smith's 1980
>dissertation from the University of Illinois " College Town
>Radicals: The Case of the Ann Arbor Human Rights Party-"they
>have a copy they'll lend out.

Well, THIS is interesting. Then Ms. Wechsler was not the first OUT glb person
elected. Was Ms. Noble of Massachusetts widely known to be lesbian during her
election/campaign?

>                                            Rob Ridinger

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my body hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ soundtrack

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Newsgroups: rpi.mail.gaynet
From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Duke U. Awareness Week
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:51:13 GMT
Apparently-To: rpi-mail-gaynet

mickey@math.duke.edu (Mickey McDonald) writes:

>Duke University Gay and Lesbian Association is sponsoring its annual
>Awareness Week this coming week.  The scheduled events are listed below:

<events planned for the week deleted>

Will Christian Laettner be there? *miaow* :-)

>-Mickey McDonald
>Duke U., 1991/1992 National Champions!!

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my body hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ soundtrack

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Date:         Thu, 09 Apr 92 14:00:19 MST
From: Gabriel <G9348712%NMSUVM1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:      Christopher Street

I still am subscribing to Christopher Street.  Yes, I am tired of the
attitude problem of its editor and publisher (more tired of than offended
by), and by their obsessive need to pursue whatever ideology is
unpopular anywhere else.  In addition to the non-HIV AIDS theory and the
"Feminism is harmful to gay men" idea, a column by Bob Satuloff a few
months ago was headed "Have We Lost The Voice?" -- meaning have we gays
lost the Village Voice to the queers (answer: yes, according to Mr. Bob).

Still and all, CS is one of the most prolific publishers of fiction and
poetry around, especially now that it publishes every other week.  Also,
Andrew Holleran's columns are usually of at least some interest.  So, I
don't expect to end my subscription soon:  I feel the need to support the
effort to print gay fiction and poetry, and OUT/LOOK doesn't produce much
in the way of fiction.  BTW, CS puts out fiction and poetry by women more
often than one might expect, although it still sees its audience as gay
men only.

Gabriel

I'd support a Bush/Clinton ticket, but only if it's Kate and Kate.

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Newsgroups: rpi.mail.gaynet
From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Misc. Things...
Distribution: local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:09:00 GMT
Apparently-To: rpi-mail-gaynet

Rob Lindley <RLINDLEY@ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

>gaynetters,
>	In a recent discussion with other gay friends of mine, someone brought
>up a rumor that Queer Nation had been planning to "out" some actors and
>actresses at the oscars, something that I believe was alluded to in recent
>gaynet posts.  This raises some personal questions for me.  First of all,
>does QN (or ACT-UP) make it a practice to do this?  Second, What is their
>justification for doing so (if they do)?  Do they think these people will
>suddenly embrace the idea of becoming gay rights spokespersons?

Well, "QN" doesn't make a practice of doing anything. Each QN tribe is
autonomous. There are some QN chapters that do out people. I don't think ACT-UP
has ever been involved in that sorta thing. Oh, gosh, do we have to start
another discussion on why some people thik outing is necessary [like me] and
some people think it is vile?

>	It would appear to me that "accusing" well-known personalities of
>being gay or bisexual equates homosexuality or bisexuality with negative
>images.  One does not "accuse" someone of doing something good, and although
>"accuse" may not be the term used, I feel that is exactly what it is.  Also,
>I would consider "outing" to be in violation of that person's privacy.  Isn't
>violating their privacy when we are seeking our (and possibly their) right
>to privacy (by trying to eliminate sodomy and other laws) rather hypocritical?

Well, briefly, I will say that the point behind outing is to show that if the
public knew exactly who was gay/lesbian/bisexual they wouldn't have such a
negative viewpointr of queers, because a lot of the people they look up to know
ARE queer! Thus it wouldn't be an accusation to call someone queer, it would
be just another character trait, like Cher likes to date younger men, well so
does David Geffen.


>	On another note, I recently saw the play _M._Butterfly_, and wondered
>if anyone had any information about it.  Is it based on a true story?  When
>did it first show? (in chicago, wasn't it?)  any information would be
>appreciated.
Yes, it is based on a true story. I thought it played on Broadway in NYC a few
years ago first with John Lithgow as the diplomat and B.D. Wong as the `geisha'.


-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my body hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ soundtrack

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:31:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Williams <jherbert@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Looking for citations.

  I am looking for gay affirmative articles or poetry that is
focused towards men of colour.  If anyone has any informations
or citation please e-mail them to me.  The articles or
poetry should be about Afrikan-American, Asian-American,
or Hispanic-American gay men.  I would like material that
is gay affirmative and not pertaining to AIDS or HIV.
This material is for a project that I am working on.
Please put your responses on the network or send them
to me directly.

JHERBERT
jherbert@u.washington.edu

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