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From: ktracy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karin L Tracy)
Subject: Re: what I take while carting
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:00:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.231919.7951@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:
>I am at the point of really wanting a cart with solid wheels....
>Here is the list of what I carry when we cart into towm (2 miles)
>for Pizza or Ice Cream>
>
>Halter and leadrope (for tying up outside Pizza parlor and when
>    fixing flats
>bucket with a little grain. (treat for pony then filled with water
>    when we stop
>Bicycle pump (for fixing flats)
>Playmate cooler with the following:
>  Adjustable wrench for removing wheel lug nuts
>  Tire irons
>  2-3 spare tubes and patch kit
>  warm clothes and extra diaper for 2 year old
>Cooler is also great for kids to prop feet on as my seat is hi
>
>Somehow I need to figure out why I am getting so many flats on this
>one wheel.  Inside looks clean, etc.  I am at the point that I can
>remove the wheel and change the tube in under 5 minutes.
>
>My pony also has special pads under her shoes to absorb shock from
>the pavement.  If I can get this darn wheel problem fixed I hope to
>pick my daughter     up from Kindergarden this fall in the cart
>several times a month.
>
>I have a sort of stange sort of cart-the whole seat unit unbolts and
>I have a sulky seat you can attatch.  The frame has stirrups.  If I
>get the nerve, someday I will convert it to a racing sulky and drive
>our donkey in a parade!  It is a horse-size cart.
>
>Anyway, now I am drooling over wooden wheel carts, Irish jaunting
>carts, etc.
>
>Driving is a blast except for all the flats!
>
>Karen

I don't want to disillusion you, but wooden wheels, even with the
rubber 'edge', are hard on the spine!  You feel every bump and stone
in the road.  The smaller the cart, the worse the springs are.  Have
you checked just where in the tube the hole is?  As I found out last
week (just as I entered the in-gate at the State Fair with a 2 yr. old
in his first class), the tubes have a tendency to shift under the tire
when not inflated to the max (hard), and the valve sits at an angle
instead of straight up.  Doesn't take too long for the sharp edge of
the hole in the rim to cut the tube and...phit, here we go again!  I
would bet you'll find the cut on the valve stem.  I've found that in
a pinch (no spare tube), super glue will patch a cut valve stem, at least
temporarily.  
                   Karin and the mighty Morgans!
From: wendy@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Wendy Milner)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 18:17:36 GMT
Subject: Re: first horse
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
From: roy_wells@qm.vitalink.COM (Roy H. Wells)
Subject:  Equitours
Reply-To: roy_wells@qm.vitalink.COM (Roy H. Wells)
Organization: Vitalink Communications Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:44:42 GMT

Has anyone ever been on one of the Equitours vacations?

I am considering taking their "Cavalier Ride" through Virginia, and 
would appreciate hearing about anyone's personal experience with 
these folks...

----
"If you can't reach (age) 70 by a comfortable road, don't go."  --Mark Twain
From: dabay@morse.cns.vt.edu (Marian Dabay)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Favorite Breed
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:31:23 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA

I've been reading rec.equestrian for almost 6 months now and thoroughly
enjoy it.  Like most of you, I'm sure, I read everything about horses
that I can get my hands on.  One of my favorite articles is the "Breed
of the Month" (or whatever they call it) in Horse Illustrated.  I've 
noticed that few people write to brag about their favorite breed, so
I thought I'd take this opportunity to start.

About 2 years ago I started looking for a horse that was calm, quiet and
"child proof" after my first two horses turned out to be major disasters.
(The first was an aggresive yearling, the second a barn sour mare).  Well
I lucked into finding a wonderful Belgian/QH cross and the love affair
began.  He's huge, about 17hh and 1600 lbs and has a presense about him.  
A friend once told me that he looks like a midieval (sp?) war horse!  But
he's the most gentle, kind horse - the perfect horse for a beginner rider
trying desparately to build confidence.  However, he's very willing to
do whatever I ask him to do.  Now that I've gotten a lot more confidence
and a little more riding skill, we've started doing dressage work and
a little cross country.  He loves to canter through the fields and will
jump anything that's not TOO high (which is fine with me since I don't
want to jump anything high either).  He also drives, but since I don't have
the money or knowledge, we haven't done this - yet!  He's also quite
intelligent and willing to learn.  He'll do just about anything to please 
me, even brave all the horse-eating monsters we encounter on the
trail.  I really love that he trusts me so much.  He also loves my
3 year old son.  The first few times he saw my son (who was only about 
1 year old and just walking) he got the funniest expression on his face, 
like "Look, a baby human!  How cute!"  Whenever he sees my son, he
comes running and puts his huge head down, right in my son's face, nose to
nose.

Early this spring I had the opportunity to buy two Belgian PINTO mares, 
which are very rare.  They are the most beautiful creatures.  Large, big 
boned, regal and they have the same personality as my gelding.  Wow, looks AND
personality, what more could a girl hope for!  I bought them from 
a paint horse breeder who bred one of the mares to his beautiful pinto TB 
stallion and I'm hoping for a nice, big hunter/jumper type.  I can't
wait!!

So, if your looking for a bold, willing "war-horse" but want a horse
that's a joy to work with, consider a Belgian.

Do you have a favorite breed?  Let me know, I'd love to hear all about
it!!

Sorry this got so long, but these guys are my pride and joy.

Marian Dabay
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, Va.
From: mdresser@pbs.org (Melanie Dresser)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: quarter sheets
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:23:03 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA


Does anyone out there use a Quarter Sheet for winter/cold weather riding?

I have always felt bad when I go to ride in the winter and have to take Quest's
nice cozy warm blanket off and expose him to the cold.  He's not a coldbacked
horse, but I thought it might be nice to use a Quarter Sheet just to keep the
chill off.
However, I have also noticed how expensive they are to buy, so I was thinking of
sewing one myself, but need a little info.

What is your Quarter sheet made of?  I notice they usually come in wool or
acrylic, which one might be better and why?  And if wool, any idea what kind?
How about flannel, or should I avoid cotton?  I really don't ride in the rain,
so I don't expect it to get wet.  Does it rub/chaf on the rump?
What are it's measurements?  I expect that for my broad, long horse that I may
need to add a few inches to the length, since I *think* they are usually made
for the shorter backed TBs.  How does yours fit your horse--long enough on a
normal backed horse?

In general, do you find it helps to use a Quarter Sheet?  Do they get too warm
with it?

Thanks,

Melanie
   and Quest
-- 
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          Melanie L. Dresser	  mdresser@pbs.org    
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"In this world, you must be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant.
Well, for years I was smart; I recommend pleasant.  You may
quote me."  Elwood P. Dowd
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From: rudy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (avram.r.vener)
Subject: Re: Horse GIF image follows (part 1) 
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:02:03 GMT

In article <BttCMJ.BvC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.175919.6639@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> sbeland@zia.aoc.nrao.edu  
>(Stephane Beland) writes:
>> Sorry for the previous posting - forgot to uuencode the image!!
>> So here it is again split in two.
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> 
The horse4.gif image looks really NICE on a Sun IPX.   I am talking about
the one with the horse running in the meadow with the mountains in the back
ground.  The other image (horse1.gif) didn't come out well. Was horse1.gif
supposed to be in two parts?  Both uuencoded? Maybe I missed part of it...

--
Rudy Vener uucp: att!mtqua!rudy  internet: rudy@mtqua.att.com
From: wendy@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Wendy Milner)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:15:37 GMT
Subject: FAQ-MISC
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
From: happonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Exercises
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:50:30 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.

Any ideas to make my daily basic exercises more interesting?

I need good ideas to keep intrest up and my horse happy.
Horse is 5 years old and we already have one jump lesson in a week.

Sirpa

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From: regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: quarter sheets
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:21:48 GMT
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Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
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In article <1992Sep2.054842.6096@infonode.ingr.com> blythedr@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe) writes:
>>What is your Quarter sheet made of?  I notice they usually come in wool or
>>acrylic, which one might be better and why?  And if wool, any idea what kind?

>that wool can be abrasive and hard to clean. And cotton will shrink 
>in the wash. It recommended using either 100% acrylic, 100% polyester

Just to round out the discussion, I would disagree.  Acrylic and Polyester
don't breathe anywhere near enough.  Building up too much heat without
letting the air circulate will result in sweating flanks which is just 
what you don't want on a cold day.

The high quality coolers and quarter sheets are made of wool, in varying
weights for the weather you are facing.  Here in southern California, I'd
feel pretty good about thermal cotton.  My acrylic horse cooler simply 
uses up shelf space, while the twin bed cotton thermal blanket does the
job every time.  I bought it at a thrift shop for $4, and it could easily
make two quarter sheets.  You might not like it in cream or baby blue, tho.

Adrienne Regard
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From: jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy)
Subject: Re: Drivers encounter loose horses - CO2 pistol?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:21:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.190058.17018@aber.ac.uk> ckw0@aber.ac.uk (Carl Keri Williams) writes:
>
>You need a horse like my Rickie!  With the single exception of the
>Rottweiler who chased him down the high street once having emerged without
>warning, Rickie has managed to convince every dog he has met on the road
>that he is fiercer than they are.  Cattle and sheep dogs in particular will
>soon change their mind when half a ton of iron-shod horse flesh appears
>to be coming straight at them, carrying a threatening sounding madwoman
>waving her arms at them.  Most freeze and change their minds hurriedly :-)
>Once I managed to get surrounded by a pack of three dogs on the road, and 
>was so incensed at their behaviour (can you imagine what a child on a 
>nervous pony might have gone through?) that I 'attacked' each dog in turn.
>Each of the dogs changed it's mind sharpish when Rickie's hooves reached 
>within an inch or two if their heads, and I ended up chasing the three of
>them back down the track to their owners house, accompanied by loud curses
>from me.  I'm not sure quite what the owner thought when he saw me 
>gallping madly down his track screaming at them, but that's his problem :-)
>
>Esther,
>Rickie, 
>Mari and baby Non - off to a show tomorrow - wish us luck!

You remind me of my Puerto Rican Paso stud that I owned for a year
when I was doing my thesis research down in P.R.   That stud hated
dogs and deeply desired to pound them into the earth.  Other than
mares, dogs were the only things that really got him moving.  If
he was out grazing, he would coyly pretend he didn't see the dog
(there were plentiful stray dogs in P.R.) until it wandered close,
then he would rush it.  Fortunately, the dogs proved faster
than his cunning.  My own dog down there was named Crabber.  He was
the smartest dog I have ever known - an adopted street dog who was
a shepherd mix.  His name came from the time he came home with a 
crab hanging from his ear.  Crabber, for some reason, decided he
liked the horse, even though the horse hated him.  Crabber would
spend many hours in the field with the horse, always being careful
not to get too close.  When we'd go for rides on the beach, Crabber
would play a game where he would bark at the horse, but be running
ahead.  The horse would gallop faster and faster to try to run
over Crabber, but Crabber stayed ahead, barking joyously over his
shoulder (laughing?)  I, as rider, tried to keep an eye out that
we never would catch Crabber in case he tripped or something.  That
was the only way that lazy horse would ever move fast.  I used to
jump him over a cross pole, and the only way you could get good
impulsion was to jump him in the direction of where the mare was
stabled - not away from the mare.  Reminds you of the in-gate effect
on show jumpers.

Janet Levy
jsl@ihlpm.ATT.COM
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From: tara@wam.umd.edu (Tara)
Subject: Re: riding without a girth?
Followup-To: tara@wam.umd.edu <tara>
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:58:44 GMT


Hi all,
	On this note, I found out on Sunday that the horse I was riding, Nehi,
had puffed up more than I had thought!  After taking a few jumps, I was 
preparing for a "cross-country-type" course my instructor then noticed that
my girth was hanging under her belly by a good couple of inches!  I'm surprised
I stayed on....the first couple of jumps I did were none too balanced at all.
	My instructor learned balance by riding in a saddle without a girth.
She told me that it really taught her balance....either that or fall down!
I'm lucky enough that she really doesn't want to repeat that training trick
with me.  :)

			tara


             ,--, | University of Maryland Equestrian Association 
       _ ___/ /\| |
   ,;`( )__, )  ~ | Horses: Quaker, Bud, Playboy, Tommy, Casey, Darla
  //  //   '--;   | 	    Nehi, Classy, Dee, Vern
  '   \     |     | Others: Majic (another horse), Pepin (shep-husky),
tara@wam.umd.edu  |         Pajas (poodle), Parsifal and Penny (cats)
From: pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: need help with stubborn horse
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:44:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx

In article <1992Sep2.213238.16357@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tracy@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Tracy Scheinkman) writes:

>	Sarah, these are classic symptoms of a sore back!!!  
>
>				Tracy and everybody

I know!!  And it's frustrating because he's not my horse.  My saddle
fits him OK, no dry spots or pinching that I can detect.  I have a
cheapo Collegiate All-purpose.  But his owner (a 14 year old girl, her
first horse) has a Stubben Siegfried that is really worn out, and I
suspect it is the problem.  She can't afford a new saddle.  So I've
left the back saver pad for her to use;  if that doesn't help SOON,
maybe I will leave her my saddle, but it's probably too big for her
butt (Sorry to say my rear doesn't look like a 14-year old's
anymore!).  I talked to the barn manager about it, and it's her theory
that putting weight on the horse will make all the difference.  He has
been mostly off work for 3 months and has NO muscle on his topline,
and a really bony withers.  He's a TB, if I didn't say.  So she's
increased his feed to 15#/day of grain, added electrolytes and
vitamins.  If that doesn't help him, I will try to insist she get a
new saddle, but being only the lessee, I have little influence.  I can
give her a copy of your letter, though.  Thanks, Tracy.

Sarah Pallas  (for "Monte" the sore-backed TB)

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: deblev@nimoy.ipac.caltech.edu (Debbie Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Exercises
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:58:52 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug26.135030.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> happonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
>Any ideas to make my daily basic exercises more interesting?
>
>I need good ideas to keep intrest up and my horse happy.
>Horse is 5 years old and we already have one jump lesson in a week.

Others have suggested trail rides and jumping, and these are good ways
to add variety if you have access to trails etc.  If you are confined
to an arena most of the time there are still things to do to make the
work less repititious and more challenging.  Use every opportunity you
can to find new exercises, read magazines and books and talk to your
riding friends.  Then use your imagination to think of different
ways to combine the exercises.  Always decide in advance what you are
going to do next, and always strive to do it a little better than
you did the last time.  Don't keep drilling on the same exercise in
the same configuration.  Once you get it right (or get an improvement)
a time or two, then it is time to try the other direction or a new
exercise.  For example, if you are working on leg yield, don't just
keep going up the quarter line and yeilding to the wall time after 
time, try yeilding from the center, from the rail to the quarter line,
in and out from a 15 to 20 meter circle, from a half turn onto of
off of the center line, in walk and canter as well as trot, etc.
It helps to understand the theory of what you are doing and why, and
the horse will stay interested if your keep changing things with
lots of turns and transitions and changes of exercise.

Also, keep your rides fairly short.  I have heard it argued that horses
working primarily or exclusively in small arenas (as is apparantly often
the case in European urban areas) have a short attention span
and should not be asked to concentrate for more than 20mins.  This means
you should probably not spend more than 30-40 mins riding, given warm-up
and cool down time.

Good luck!

Debbie deblev@ipac.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: equine dentists
From: Bliss B. Siman <ROPBB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 01:42:36 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

We stable in New Jersey at Overpeck Riding Center which is leased from the
County.  The stable uses, as we do, an equine dentist who is excellent. I doubt
that could happen on country property if it was illegal. Maybe I'm naive.
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: meganb@sequent.com (Megan Breninger)
Subject: More bad news...
Summary: Murphy's law rules again!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:00:31 GMT


I called the vet and had them come out Monday, and Hank has cancer.
It is a sarcoma, which is a form of skin cancer, but it is
definately cancer.

He will go in for surgery on Friday the 18th of September.
I start school the 22nd of September, in aims
of an Associates Degree in Computer Science.  The
credit union I bank with is letting me off the hook
for September regarding the payment for my truck and
Visa, thank God.  Tuition, the operation and the bills
I have every month would put me under in no time without
understanding from everyone.  It's nice to know that when
you are in a bind, there are soooo many understanding
individuals out there, people and corporations alike, who
have the heart to put themselves in your shoes!!!  :*)

This too, shall pass.   Life goes on.  Wear a smile, at
least they're free!!!  :*)  :*)

I would appreciate your thoughts and prayers.

Megan and the Hankster.  (Who was EXCELLENT during the vet
visit, poking and probing...not even a flinch or a dirty look!)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: ADVICE NEEDED ABOUT A SKIN CONDITION
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:45:05 EST
 <1992Aug27.203847.27677@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> <1992Aug28.145544.4248@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Aug28.145544.4248@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, pfau@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (lynn.r.pfau) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.203847.27677@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy) writes:
>> In article <4742@rosie.NeXT.COM> llyons@next.com (Liza Lyons) writes:
>> >Jill:
>> >
>> >
>> >When I brought the vet into the picture, he suggested alternating Betadine  
>> >rinses with shampoos using Neutragena T (yes, this is the shampoo for humans  
>> >:-) ). In both cases, he advised diluted solutions and rinsing thoroughly after  
>> >
>> >Liza and Kinsale
>> >llyons@next.com
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone heard this solution before?  At the barn where I'm
>> share boarding and at another local stable where my friend boards
>> there have been many horses coming down with a fungus-like skin
>> problem where bald spots appear.  At my stables, the women have
>> been using Massengill douche, mixed according to directions, applied
>> to the affected areas.  They've been getting very quick responses.
>> 
> Janet:
> some of the douches have Betadine in them, thus it may be the
> same ingredient that's stopping the fungus. (It should say on
> the label ). I would guess however, that the douche is more
> expensive?
> My horse had some sort of itch/loss of hair that was rampant
> at my old barn. My husband's a pharmacist, and brought home
> something called "Lotrimin", which seemed to work when all
> the stuff the vets were using failed. One of my doctor
> friends suggested a cream or ointment with cortisone, like
> Cortaid, to help stop the itching.
> I have also heard that you can over-do it on the Betadine
> shampoo.
> 
> Good luck, those itches can really be a pain
> 
> Lynn Pfau
> AT&T
> Naperville, Il

The suggestion I got was to use Tinactin spray.  It works wonders with
athletes foot fungus and it worked great on the horse!

Sue
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