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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Different Strings
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:46:33 GMT
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Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Dec17.191151.18354@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.171159.12952@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:

>>He wrote everything on _Rush_, unless Alex wrote some, too, which I doubt.   
>>He's a great guitarist, but I've read interviews, and he doesn't strike me  
>>as being terribly bright (no flames, please, but tell me if you got a  
>>different impression).  Geddy also wrote some lyrics on FBN, although I  

>(No flame, no problem. ;)  )
>Alex doesn't strike me as an idiot, either.  He does strike me as
>a really funny guy, in interviews and on stage.  But as to how
>intelligent he is, who knows? 


Yeah, it's hard to say. I think the reasons why one _might_ think
he's not as bright as Ged and Neil are a) he's more likely to be
under the affect of some substance, legal or not (that tourbook
photo of Alex in a Victorian home with a book entitle MUSHROOMS
next to him on a desk was something of a hint), and b) he's the
least egotistic of the band members, much more humble and more of
a joker. Who knows how intelligent he is, but he sure seems to be
honest.



>Frank Sellin, fes9s@virginia.edu


[it's in the mail Frank :) ]


Gregg

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From: md2946@csc.albany.edu (Alex Lifeson)
Subject: Some thoughts..
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:04:46 GMT
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I was talking to a friend of mine about the roll the bones tour.  I saw them 
front row and really enjoyed the show.  He was sitting 2nd row and was amazed
by them.  He did say that he felt they could have played more stuff from the 
older albumns.  I do not wish to start the New/Old debate, but I wasd curious 
as to how my fellow alt.music.rusher's would respond.  It also got me thinking 
about my dream set.

Here is my dream set list....
2112(uncut)
working man
circumstancses
the trees
closer to the heart
cygnus x-1
la villa
subdivisions 
the entire fear trilogy
the camera eye
Limelight
red barchetta
YYZ
SOR
force ten
time stand still
manhattan project
show don't tell
available light
RTB
dreamline
and here is a big supise ....Bet your life

probably a few others...like beneath between and behind and anthem.  The
problem I had in formulatinmg this is length of the set.

Comments???

Mike
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Does anyone know if...
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:44:28 GMT

In article <exuptr.427.0@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.040651.20048@reed.edu> jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney) writes:
>
>[ notation stuff edited ]
>
>>Surely, they MUST!  In my old band, I was the only one who could read music.  They only way  
>>to do it, pretty much, was "Four bars of this... eight bars of this..." etc.  Anything with  
>>Rush's complexity, it seems to me, requires notation.

If they didn't write notation before recently, how did they ever manage
to release guitar books in their hand many years ago?  I didn't think
Peart had too much experience with a guitar, or am I missing something?

RiViT

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From: John.Hirsch <John.Hirsch@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Favorite Alex solos (was Alex' guitar work on p/g)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:59:12 GMT

In <1992Dec18.234352.6979@hellgate.utah.edu> larsen@hellgate.utah.edu (Steve Larsen) writes:

>  Personally, I have always had a certain passion for the first solo in La Villa
>Strangiatto, and the outro for Mission.  I think both of these works are just
>incredible.  Almost brings tears to the eyes.  Hey, maybe we could start a thread
>about everyones favorite guitar solos.

  Okay, I'll go with his solo on 'Analog Kid'. It ROCKS!

>Steve
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Hi there.
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From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: How do you describe Rush?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:11:36 GMT

  I remember Geddy talking about what is Rush.  Even he said it is hard to
  describe.  He said the closest thing that he can think of is hard rock.
  Where did I hear this, some of you may be asking?  He either said this on
  "In Concert, '91 or '92" (I have both on tape) or on an MTV interview of him
  that I have on tape as well.


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From: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Paul Ackerman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Alex' guitar work on p/g
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:08:29 GMT
Reply-To: pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec14.154822.15763@eng.umd.edu>, 
    cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen) writes:
>
>Just wondering how people felt about the guitar work on this album..
>I was just listening to it last night while studying for a final,
>and I realized how I really enjoy some of his (I guess the word
>is) arpeggiated work on the guitar - not the power chords, but 
>the flowing notes, like on DEW, The Enemy Within (TEW).
>Don't get me wrong, I love the power chords, I just wasn't
>talking about them.
>
>Also, the solos of Between the Wheels, Kid Gloves, and my personal
>favorite Afterimage to me are awesome...

         I agree.  I believe p/g is where Alex started using arpeggios and
    suspended chords heavily.  His work on the album shows a lot of
    passion and anger, just the right blend for that album.  His solo on
    Kid Gloves is his best to date, IMHO.

                                                           - Paul
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:39:43 GMT

In article <exuptr.483.0@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
>In article <BzDxFv.Ioz@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec15.215421.21272@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mmidboe@nyx.cs.du.edu (digital saint) writes:
>>>
>>>     Just what do the christians find to object about Rush's music? Did
>>>their rantings have any effect on Rush's music at all? 
>
>>Sorry, true Christians do not... over zealous Christians seem to (yes,
>>I'm a Christian Baptist Rush fan).
>
>>To my recollection, the Bible (the Christian's "How To Book") says NOT to
>>do such things as some of these "holier than thou" people are doing -- sorry,
>>I can't remember that exact Biblical reference off the top of my head.
>
>I can help you out here -
>
	[Bunch 'o stuff Deleted]
>
>In short, the Bible has not one, but many things to say about this.

Yes, 'tis part of the "power" of such a collection of books...

>>I think it's rather idiotic, myself.  Accorinding to the Bible, our jobs
>>here as Christians is to lead people to God as the one true saviour -- not
>>to push them in a direction they do not want to go...
>
>And to exemplify, to mirror Jesus.

"To allow Jesus to live His life through us", I believe is more
of a direct quote...

Now, lest we start straying from the intent of a.m.r, we had better move
this to email!  <grin>

RiViT
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From: moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Changes to Rush Fans Frequently Asked Questions
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:36:36 GMT

   
>   Where does the name 'Rocinante' come from?
>   
> 
>  ----- Changes to faq.3 -----
> 
> No differences encountered
> 
> -- 
> 
> Dan Delany
> dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu
> I failed the Turing test.

Rocinante was a name from _Don_Quixote._  I believe it was his horse, but  
I don't know for sure.

Moleface
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Enough (Re:) Marillion?
Date: 10 Dec 92 19:08:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Dec10.171054.3572@netcom.com> jtkung@netcom.com (Joseph T. Kung) writes:

Enough Marillion, Dream Theatre, etc. for me! It's cool for people to
give their comparisons and opinions and answers to queries, but _analysis_
of other bands without a single reference to Rush?

Hmm.

Gregg

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:56:13 GMT

In article <104486@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>In article <1g656kINNchc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) writes:
>
>>Never heard this album before.  It seems to be the one with the longest
>>songs on it, though, am I right?  I've always been a big fan of long
>>songs, especially with big instrumental sections.  Are these any good?
>>Should I check it out?  Keep in mind that if I had money to blow buying
>>every single Rush album, I'd do it -- but I don't.
>
>Buy it, it's very unlikely that you'll be disappointed. If you like
>"By-Tor and the Snow Dog" then you'll love "The Necromancer". And half
>the album is one long song (technically and series of connected songs)
>If you're into musical "atmosphere" this may end up being your favorite
>Rush album. It was the last one I bought (in the process of buying them
>all) and I could've kicked myself for buying it last!
>
>
>Gregg
>

I must disagree.  CoS is a great album and all, but I can't say that it is 
a "must have" for an occasional Rush listener.  It is a nice addition to an
already large collection of Rush albums, but I would put most of the other
albums ahead of it.  I like CoS, but I think I only really listen to the
first thre songs when I do... (Bastille Day, I think I'm going Bald, and
Lakeside Park)  Although I must say that Lakeside park is one of my favorite
songs.  I really am not to hip on The Necromancer or By-Tor and the Snow Dog
(yes I know that is on a diff. album).  Just my opinion, and I know people
always don't agree with my opinions, but they're mine!  8-)

---===***> Mike Maryo
From: ott@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (THE JESTER)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: New thread(s)
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:09:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	Hey gang.

	I've been flipping through the newsgroup and getting kind of bored.

	So, I have some things I'd like to know, and see if anyone else is 
interested.

	Firstly, what is High Water about?  It seems to allude to evolution,
going home, and a few other things that I can't remember right now.

	Secondly, what about Prime Mover?  Maybe I'm sick, but I find all
kinds of sexual connotations in it.

	Anyone want to voice their opinion?

	Looking forward to a new thread!

	dooz


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From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Subject: Re: How do you describe Rush?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:16:39 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Dec11.113635.2469@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.164158.26156@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes:

[verbose stuff.......deleted] :-)

AWSOME!!!!!
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From: jeffc@magician.larc.nasa.gov (Jeff Cleveland)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Advertisements/Endorsements
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:29:37 GMT
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> Neil usually talks about The Drum Shoppe in Ft. Wayne, IN.  Every time he wants


Isn't the The Percussion Centre in Fort Wayne??
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_
From: cubsfan@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:18:55 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <103543@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
> In article <1992Dec1.230231.21634@muddcs.claremont.edu> jason@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jason Merrill) writes:
>>The insert for HYF contains these lyrics for Force Ten:
> 
>>rising falling at force ten
>>we twist the world and ride the wind
> 
>>Am I missing something, or are they not actually in the recorded song?
> 
> You are missing something! Further back in the mix Ged says these words
> under the effect of some effects ( :) ) -- it's kinda faint, just like
> "I will be the judge" in "Show Don't Tell." It's really cool when you
> know they're there! Take another listen....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gregg
> 
> 
> -- 
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> "You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
> "One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
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From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: RUSH?
Reply-To: inner-circle@crash.canon.co.uk
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:11:18 GMT

Hi. I saw a CD in the store today by a band called "Rush"
and was wondering if this has anything to do with the movie
"Rush" or maybe Rush Limbaugh (who is really funny!)
Should I get it? I didn't like that movie much but I listen
to Rush Limbaugh every day on the radio and heard he had an
album out.

Sorry if this is a newbie question but I've never heard
of the BAND "Rush" before.

Any ideas? Thanks.

mdw

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From: april@hotcity.COM (April Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:22:26 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <Bz6216.G1E@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
(Christian "X-Man" von Schmidt-Pauli) writes:
>dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:
>
>>Wow!  april@hotcity.COM typed...
>>> Do you know how Force Ten was written??
>>> 
>>>      RUSH needed a fill for the album, so they sat down and fiddled a
little,
>
>>> and came up with Force Twn in about ten minutes.  They had some deadline to
>>> meet.  Talk about Grace Under Pressure..
>
>>Well, actually it took a few hours to write "Force Ten", as was documented in
>>_Visions_, but that's still pretty quick.
>
>       Rush has done this quite a bit, it seems.  Other songs they have
>written to fill up time on their albums.  Three other songs that have been
>written in just a few hours are:
>       Closer to the Heart
>       Beneath, Between, Behind
>       New World Man.
>
>       All three of these songs, IMHO, are very good.  It's wierd that
>songs they can write in a couple of hours are better than half the songs
>on the album that took much longer to write.
>
   Yeah, i don't really think it matter sho wlong it takes.  ZThe creativity,
mood, and the subject of the music has a lot to do with it.  i've written my
best poetry in a few scribbles, or it's taken me days to get something to my
satisfaction.  Time doesn't have much to do with it.

I guess i'm net.picky too.  Sorry.

April
From: april@hotcity.COM (April Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_
Date: 11 Dec 92 00:22:31 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Dec07.174111.5499@eng.umd.edu>, cfynx@eng.umd.edu (Sridhar P.
Rao) writes:
>
>ho..
>i often wonder what the lyrics mean in any way as well..but it like you said
>each time it is something different..force ten is probably my favorite rush
>songs, it just seems to have a little of everything and whole lot of sound.
>
>cfynx..the analog kid
Do you know how Force Ten was written??

     RUSH needed a fill for the album, so they sat down and fiddled a little,
and came up with Force Twn in about ten minutes.  They had some deadline to
meet.  Talk about Grace Under Pressure..
From: gjr@st-andrews.ac.uk (Graham James Reilly)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Advertisements/Endorsements
Keywords: Have you seen any with the band-members?
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:41:25 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

In article <1g86e7INNkc6@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> fjs@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:
>
>I have a quick question I would like to ask.  I am curious as to which products
>Geddy, Alex, and Neil have either endorsed or promoted.  Currently, I have only
>seen the Gallien-Kruger ads which feature Alex, but I am interested in
>knowing what other products Rush favor............
>

Alex also appears in PRS guitar adverts ( and a very good picture of him it is
too, with his signature at the bottom ), Geddy appears in one for some make of
strings that features him and The Edge and Neil does Ludwig drums and Modern 
Drummer's 'in-house' adverts.

And that's all I know about.



Dylan
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: capps@bnr.ca (Terry Capps )
Subject: Chronicles (the Video)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:01:45 GMT


Well, I'm sure many of you have seen the Chronicles video, but
this 14-year RUSH fan just picked up a copy this weekend and I
thought I'd make a couple of comments. 

First, I was a BIT disappointed when I turned the video over to
see what was included.  I had been hoping that most of the songs
on the disc would be included (BTW - I didn't buy the CD because
I have all the others, and I didn't think it was worth it to get
it just for the two songs [from ESL and ATWAS] that weren't 
included on CD issue of the albums [which I also have].

Anyway, I think the running time is about 63 minutes.  So I was
a little apprehensive before purchasing, because I thought I
had video versions of most of the songs.

Well, was I surprised when I popped the video in and saw Closer to
the Heart and The Trees.  I had been expecting the ESL-video
version (or something similar).  Well, NOT!  What I saw was the
guys (with their original HAIR) jamming in LE STUDIO (guessing 
by the neon sign on the wall).  It was great vintage RUSH.  

So I did get to see videos I've never seen before, which justified
the cost to me.  BTW, these were different recordings as well, so
I got to hear these songs performed differently as well :).

Other comments:  Tom Sawyer was the one they show on MTV;  Limelight
was a diffent video that I hadn't seen before - not the one on MTV.  
The Big Money was the MTV version.

When I saw the Time Stand Still video I just stared in disbelief.
This had to be the worst RUSH video (if there is such a thing :) -
that I have ever seen.  I hadn't seen a Time Stand Still video
before, but I thought I'd be seeing something similar to the clip
they show in concert (you know, the camera moving a mile-a-minute
throught valleys and mountains and down rivers - zoommmm!).  Well
it was nothing like that.  For those who haven't seen it, each of 
the guys was taped performing, then transposed onto some type of
studio with Amy Mann working a big video-camera.  And during the
whole song, the transposed images are being moved all over the 
screen.  I seem to remember a recent thread about this video -
so my 2-cents worth - what a waste of time and talent.

Anyway, the video was a good deal (19.99) and a prized addition
to my collection.

BTW, sorry if some of you have seen a discussion of Chronicles
before - I've only been reading this group for about 3 months
or so.

signed,
Anxiously awaiting the New One - though it'll probably be Summer
or Fall '93 - :(


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From: kyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kris Young)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:10:30 GMT

Hey, I'm always in for a good argument, even if I have to make one out of
nothing.  :)

From: Don.Bruder@altern8.mi.org (Don Bruder)
Sender: FredMail@altern8.mi.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 18 Dec 92  03:29:38 EST

 RMV> I just to wishful or thinking of something like 
 RMV> 'alt.enya.puke.puke.puke.'
 
Your taste, sir, is contained solely in your mouth.