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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Sunbird a la 400ci)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What is a P23T processor?
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:16:29 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1993Jan24.192252.25631@dvorak.amd.com> tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes:

>In article <C1BL4o.HBD@n3dmc.svr.md.us> johnl@n3dmc.svr.md.us (John Limpert) writes:
>>Thomas D. Barrett (tdbear@dvorak.amd.com) wrote:
>>My 486DX-33 motherboard has jumpers for 486, P23N and P23.  Any idea what
>>the P23N might be?

>Hmmm... I'm (almost) willing to bet that the P23N is the 486sx and the
>P23 is the 487 (or visa versa).  Anyone else know?

Seems like if you're right you've got it backwards.  I'd think the 'N' would 
be for Numeric.

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From: ee90dhg@brunel.ac.uk (Dominic H Goode)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Rombo Media Pro Plus
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:23:26 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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A friend of mine recently bought a Cardex hi-colour 1Mb graphics card,
using the Tseng ET-4000 chipset.

Having access to this 24 bit colour, he then bought a video digitising card -
the Rombo Media-Pro Plus.

Unfortunatly, after installing the card and the Windows 3.1 software, he found
that the card only worked in standard 16 and 256 colour modes. Furthermore,
he could no longer use windows AT ALL in the high colour modes, as most of the
colours become black or white.

Whilst the digitiser does not need a hi-colour mode, (it chroma-keys its output
into the pc's VGA video signals), it is rather a waste of a hi colour card!

Also, the software supplied with the digitiser refuses to save 256 colour BMP
files. It reports a sofware failure, followed by a windows AE message, which
closes down the program.

The software only works at all in the 386 enhanced mode - otherwise the
sotware is completely unable to access the card's on board ram.

24bit bmp files are (Slightly) more sucessful, but only a very small number
of windows and DOS programs will load them in correctly (if at all). So much
for a standard file format!

Does anyone know how to solve (or improve) either of the above problems?

Thanks. 
Dominic Goode (ee90dhg@brunel.ac.uk)
.
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From: donl@glass.esd.sgi.com (donl mathis)
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro: Good or SUCKS????
Reply-To: donl@glass.esd.sgi.com (donl mathis)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 03:24:19 GMT


In article <414@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov>, hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov
(stockman harlan w) writes:

|> I have an IRIS in my labs and an ATI on my 486, which communicates with
|> the SGI via X11/SVR4. For X11 stuff, the ATI IS faster than the IRIS--
|> at least, IRIS programs redirected to my display run faster than on the
|> IRIS itself. 

Well, which Iris?  There are various flavors.  Now, granted, they start
to get expensive when compared to PC's, but the point is that there
*are* uses for which even a very fast 2D accelerator won't do.  Drawing
lines, filling, and doing bit-blts is not such a tough thing to do
anymore, and these PC graphics cards do very nicely.  An Iris is made
for interactive 3D.  If I have to move it, scale it, wiggle it, or spin
it, I think I'd rather draw it on my Iris.

|> It is interesting that in BYTE a few months back, a Compaq 486/50 with a
|> Matrox display list processor scored substantially better on CAD
|> benchmarks than a more expensive IRIS. That suggests to me that SGI just
|> hasn't gone after the CAD market with any enthusiasm.

I'm not a marketing type, I don't know any marketing types, and I don't
want to be a marketing type.  I also don't speak for SGI, but I *do*
have a point of view.  :)

One of the problems that SGI has faced is that PC-oriented developers
have never had interactive 3D available to them, so they don't really
know how valuable it is.  Things are changing, but it will take time.
In recent history, 3D in the CAD world seemed to mean that you could
*represent* a three dimensional object, and given a sufficient amount
of patient, look it from different angles.  Our founder says "If it
don't move, it ain't 3D!", and that's what we do.  3D CAD to us would
be the ability to just yank the drawn object with the mouse and spin it
around to work on the backside, for example.  Or to finish up the
interior and add the lighting, and then mouse your way into the house
and take a look around on a little tour.  Things things are happening,
but slowly.  What the Iris philosophy gives you is an orientation for
graphics hardware that lets you get all those points transformed and
all those polygons shaded as quickly as possible.  Off-load these
tasks to a processor that is specially made for them, and get them
done in parallel with the rest of the computing.

- donl mathis at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA
donl@sgi.com
From: ab245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sam Latonia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: FASTMICRO information
Date: 28 Jan 1993 09:16:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I can tell you this about FASTMICRO. If you call them and tell them
that you have one of their upgradeable computer 386 or 486 it don't
make any difference. And are asking about a cpu upgrade, they know
less than the people that read the magazines about what they are
selling. They DO NOT sell any of the upgrade CPU chips that they
make a big deal about their computers being upgradeable later when
the prices come down. They DO NOT sell CPU chips by themselves at all!
They can't offer any help to anyone as to where to get a cpu
to upgrade their computer from. You could get more information if
you were to call your local McDonalds than to ask FASTMICRO!
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: using an (RLL) ST-238 drive with an MFM controller
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:04:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I have an Adaptec RLL controller and a Seagate (RLL) ST238 drive.
Either the controller or the drive (or both) is bad.  
Since I don't have an extra RLL controller or RLL drive, Its difficult
to trouble shoot.

Since I'm under the impression the ST238 (RLL) drive is the same
as Seagate's ST225 (MFM) drive (with the difference being something
along the lines of different platter surface density), I'd like to
use a known good MFM controller to test the ST238.

Q: Can I use a MFM controller with the ST238?
   (I understand that after low-level formatting, the storage will
    be reduced (from the ~30Meg using RLL to ~20M using MFM).  However,
    that's OK by me.)

Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

--tony

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From: rich@bostech.com (Richard Baughman)
Subject: experience with FastMicro?
Organization: Boston Technology, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:11:30 GMT

Anyone bought from them in the past year or so?  What have your experiencess
been, esp. with Technical Support and Customer Service?  Prompt?
Knowledgable?  Do they return calls?  Do they stick with a problem until
they've fixed it?

Please respond via email.  Thanks.
-- 
Rich Baughman / Boston Technology / Wakefield, MA
rich@bostech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mgolden@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian Golden)
Subject: Re: CGA on a monochrome monitor?Please reply
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:53:40 GMT

ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  writes:
> I have a monochrome amber monitor and a cga emulator card right now,
> actually a mono graphics card.
> Now,I have a program that needs true cga to run.
> SInce cga cards have a 9 pin connector xlike my monitor has,can i plug
> it in and get cga on my mono monitor?

NO!!! Poof! Smoke!  Bad idea!  I have an extra CGA card that also does
monochrome that I will let you have for $15 plus postage..  It's a LASER
"3-in-1" graphics card.  Still in the box.  Let me know.

Mike Golden - mgolden@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: pha57@keele.ac.uk (R.J. Rankin)
Subject: barcode readers for pc's
Organization: Keele University, England
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:20:56 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: grickett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gregory A Ricketts)
Subject: PS/2 harddrive upgrade
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:45:38 GMT


My Uncle has a veterinary clinic in Waverly, Ohio.  He presently runs
VBOSS on a PS/2 Model 55 SX, and needs to upgrade from his present 60MB
harddrive to ~120MB harddrive.  I know very little about PS/2s, I don't even
know if this is a 286, or 386.  I have *heard* that it can be difficult to
upgrade a PS/2 harddrive.  My question, can this be done, and what
harddrives are compatible with this make of PS/2?  Thanks for any
information.  Greg.
From: dunguyen@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: spec on CORE INTERNATIONAL 310 drive needed
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:48:53 GMT

Hello all
I have an old hard drive from 
I have an old hard drive from Core International model HC310.
I need to know some specs on this drive, Heads, cyl, etc, and is
it an MFM or RLL drive?  The guy who sold it to me said that it's
a SCSI drive, what a liar!

Please help... Thanks in advanced!!  Duc N.
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From: rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: More than 2 IDE Drives
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:50:13 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood

In article <mortenk.180.727554762@dhhalden.no> mortenk@dhhalden.no (MORTEN KNUDSEN) writes:
>In article <C0tJro.6uI@cs.mcgill.ca> storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:
>>From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
>>Subject: More than 2 IDE Drives
>>Date: 14 Jan 93 00:52:35 GMT
>>
>>I was wondering if there was any way to get a third or perhaps a fourth
>>IDE Drive connected to my system for general use under DOS, OS/2 and
>>NT....
>>
>As for OS/2 2.0, the latest drivers are supposed to support two IDE 
>controllers (i.e. 4 drives). I haven't tried it though. Also, some 
>cached IDE controllers allow 4 or 6 drives. They do this by pretending 
>that two or three HD's are one. 
>
>Morton.


is there any way under os/2 to beable to run a IDE drive and an RLL?

Rob Merritt
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From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,news.groups
Subject: Re: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:57:38 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO
NNTP-Posting-Host: magellan.stlouis.sgi.com

In article <93021.123116SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu> SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu (Senthil Ramas Kumar) writes:
>
>I very much agree with you that the term "x86", does not lend it nicely to
>suit the description that we are looking for.  Further, as a previous poster
>had pointed out its a little technical in nature, and it _could_ be obscure
>to people, especially those who are new to the area of interest.
>
>but, I somehow feel that just keeping "pc" instead of "ibm.pc" is too
>generic, and can be very confusing to people.
>
>Kumar
What about comp.sys.intel.*.  Is there something wrong with that?

--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com 
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From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: IBM PS2 & bundled software
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:32:35 GMT

bonak@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Esmail Bonakdarian) writes:

>I have an acquaintance who bought an IBM PS/1 (or 2, she's not quite sure). She
>got MS Windows and MS Works bundled with the system.

>The software was already installed and she also got the manuals - BUT she
>didn't receive any distribution disks! I think this is very strange. When I got
>MS Windows from Northgate they also sent me a set of diskettes. She  tried
>unsuccessfully to contact IBM to see if she  should have gotten the diskettes.

Since most vendors who include software with their products include 
different packages with different hardware, it isn't completely unreasonable
that a sales rep couldn't say what should have been included.

What IBM facility did she attempt to contact?  

And no, I'm not trying to defend some of the stupidities in IBM's marketing
structure.  Too many IBM sales reps still think that (a) mainframes are
IBM's only product, and (b) they don't need to know anything about what
they're selling.  At the same time, the user should be expected to know
at least what products are involved when a question is asked of a vendor.

>Anyone out there bought a PS2 or PS1 and gotten diskettes for all of the 
>installed software? What do you think about this practice of not providing 
>the software on floppies? Seems strange to me.

Other postings have noted that apparently when MS licenses a hardware 
vendor to provide software with a computer, it does not require that
the vendor include master diskettes.  Some (many?) vendors who do not
provide separate diskettes do, however, include on the fixed disk *images*
of the master diskettes which the user can copy to floppies to serve
as primary backups for later reinstallation.  Have your acquaintance
look at the directory structure: there may be some directory path
along the lines of c:\windows\dist\disk1, ...\disk2, ...\disk3 etc.

For a product like Windows, which requires the user to have the 
distribution diskettes (or their images) when adding new printers
or such, I would expect that you would find the images somewhere
on the fixed disk.

OTOH, considering the trivial cost of a set of diskettes, I look *very*
favorably on hardware vendor's ads which say "Master diskettes included".

Joe Morris
From: 880998s@axe.acadiau.ca (WAYNE LAM SETO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: MITSUBISHI DIAMONDSCAN SD 4533C SPECS. NEEDED
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:03:28 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I'am looking to buy a Mitsubishi monitor which was highly rated in PC 
Sources magazine. The magazine didn't list any of the monitors specs. Can 
anyone tell me the specs. for this monitor. If you have this monitor can you 
give me your opinion of the monitor or any other Mitsubishi monitor. Thanks!
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From: ravalent@mothra.syr.EDU (Bob Valentine)
Subject: Re: advice on ripping the guts out of a 286
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:51:15 EST

In article <breadyg-210193152706@heavmac22.cc.purdue.edu> breadyg@sage.cc.purdue.edu (george bready) writes:
>i need some friendly advice, or at least reassurnace that my current plans
>are safe and sane.  my current system :generic 286 clone, ega card,
>original nec multi-sync, rrl controller and 30mb hd.  while i would love
>turning it into a second machine, my wife is funny about money matters.  my
>plan: getting an "upgradeable" 386-33 or 386-40 motherboard, an 800x600 vga
>card and necessary adapter cable.

   Sounds good here.  When you say "upgradeable" you mean the m/b that
supports 386DXnn to 486DXnn, right?  
 
>questions: nec says this venerable monitor should support this video mode,
>even though it is only speced to 560.  any experience out there with this? 

   Which NEC is this? I'm running a old 2A, and 800x600 works fine.

> next question: some of the new motherboards make the claim that i can pull
>the 386 and replace it with a 486 when prices come down (like after the
>pentium or 586 is released).  is this accurate?  i know the "upgradeable"
>motherboArds that required daughterboards were bogus, but this solution
>seems reasonable.  any ideas???

    All the new ones just require a processor change.  When you buy
one, just make sure that the 32 bit slot is VESA standard, and that it
can synthasize all the necessasary clock speeds for future processors.

>final question:sure, i want a big hard disk (and my wife might appreciate
>it, too!!nudge, nudge, wink,wink), but my budget precludes the move to a
>big ide now.  can i successfully Stack my old yet trustworthy 30mb seagate
>in the setup i am describing???  i know it won't be a speed demon, but it
>will hopefully meet my needs for a while.

   I'm about to do the same thing you are.  My drives consist of a 70
meg Micropolis MFM drive and a Rodime 203E (30 meg MFM).  They're
antiques, full height, but they run forever, and never seem to barf up
data.  The only problem with those compression programs is that they
vary the compession.  Text and most stuff will compress.  Archives,
graphics, and some other stuff will not compress.  So when DOS says
you have 5 meg free, is it REALLY 5 meg or is it only 2.....

>thanks to one and all for your kind and generous advice on this.  also, it
>seems this must be a problem others might have...any good articles in any
>of the magazines about such at-class upgrades??? 

   Never seen one.  They always push people to go get a whole nother
system.  A waste, IMHO, unless you get a bundled deal that is way
cheaper that the sum of the parts.  I'm keeping my old case, because I
much prefer the flip-top style.  So what if it kills the reception on
my roommates tv?. 8->.
                      -->   Bob Valentine  <--  
                  --> ravalent@mailbox.syr.edu <--  


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From: R3DRS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Subject: NEED SOFTWARE FOR PERFECT VISION BY SUNRIZE IND.
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:45:25 GMT

The perfect vision is a real time video digitizer that connects through the
parallel port.  It was sold a few years ago by sunrize industries, but they
have since discontinued it, and they no longer support it in any way.  The one
i have was originally purchased for use with the commodore amiga 1000, and i
have the software for that, but i know that software also existed to use this
with a PC compatable.  I was wondering if anyone had heard of this obscure
piece of hardware, and better yet, has any kind of software that reads it?
 If not, where would be the best place to look for programming info on reading
the parallel port???
                      Dave Snyder
From: drkerns@sony7.sdrc.com (sean kerns)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Wireless Mice
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:47:49 GMT
Organization: SDRC

In article <1993Jan20.234702.15527@dmp.csiro.au>, lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) writes:
|> cbrooks@afit.af.mil (Christopher L Brooks) writes:
|> 
|> >Has anyone out there used a wireless mouse?  I'm thinking of getting
|> >one since my cats have been chewing up my mouse cable (how
|> >appropriate!).  Any experience shared would be appreciated.
|> 
|> >-Chris
|> >--cbrooks@afit.af.mil
|> 
|> 
|> A bloke at work got one of these and they were not all
|> that good.  The size, button placement, and rather
|> clunky button made it rather difficult to use compared
|> to conventional mice.  He liked it so much he
|> gave it to his technical assistant and bought an 
|> MS Mouse.  I forget the brand - but I would try to
|> get a good demo of the one you intend to buy and
|> find out how it feels.
|> 
|> Hope this helps,  Lachlan.
|> -- 
|>   Lachlan Cranswick  -  CSIRO             _--_|\  lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU
|>   Division of Mineral Products           /      \ tel +61 3 647 0367
|>   PO Box 124, Port Melbourne 3207        \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223
|>   AUSTRALIA                                    v 

I bought a Mouseman Cordless, and am very happy with it. The mouse itslef is kind
of big, but the cordless part is great, and Logitech makes pretty good mice,
IMHO. Be creful to stay away from the kind that have to be in the line of sight
of the receiver. These tend to be quirky. I think these are the infrared mice.
Mine uses radio waves, and can be anywhere up to six feet from the receiver, and
the receiver doesn't have to be able to "see" the mouse.

Good Luck

SRK
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From: choudhry@wam.umd.edu (Zafar Ullah Choudhry)
Subject: Re: IBM 8513 monitor problem "FIXED". Thanks....
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:55:57 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: chan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Vi Chi Chan)
Subject: Looking for motherboard 486
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 02:47:28 GMT

Hi there,

I am looking for a 486-33 motherboard.
I look through those computer shopper etc. magazine but can't 
design which company is more reliable in terms of the board
quality. 
Does anybody had experience in buying motherboard from any company and
have any comments that may want to share with me?

THanks in advance.

Billy.
chan@ecn.purdue.edu
From: budman@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gleb Budman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Printer?!?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:11:18 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: uc
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

I was told that they are actually compatible...
In the manual to the printer they show a wire which
changes the standard mac format round plug to an RS 232 cable...

Does anyone know if the printer and computer are compatible...
Do I just need this cabble? Do I need some special software
as well??  Is it just hopeless????

Help

-gleb
(budman@ocf.berkeley.edu)

thanks
.
:X
From: uclyjjd@ucl.ac.uk (Julian Daley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 'Phone number for Nanao
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:31:16 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

Could some kind soul tell me the 'phone number for
Nanao, either in the UK, or a *NON* 800 number in 
the US, since toll-free numbers don't work internationally.

Many thanks
Julian.

--
        _____________________________________________________
       | Julian Daley,                     j.daley@ucl.ac.uk |
       | Department Clinical Physics, Guys Hospital, London. |
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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