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From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Steve Hackett question.. whats good to try?
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:16:41 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <36898@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> gmt@mosquito.cis.ufl.edu (GMM) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.080207.13365@ra.msstate.edu> lewis@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Lewis Beard) writes:
>>I am interesting in trying solo stuff, or any non-genesis stuff involving
>>Steve. . .
>
>My favorite is Voyage of the Acolyte.  That was his first solo album which
>was released while he was still in Genesis.  Another good choice would be
>Spectral Mornings, which I think is his second album.  Avoid Cured!

Avoid "Cured" ???? Why ??? There's some great stuff on it: Cradle of Swans
Picture Postcard, Overnight Sleeper, Turn Back Time, The Air Conditioned
Nightmare. 5 out of 8 ain't bad...

IMO "GTR" would be one to avoid

>Defector has a lot of diversity.  A lot of his albums are now available
>domestically, including Voyage of the Acolyte.  Try it first.


peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
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From: fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:22:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: GTE Government Systems





Good news.  However, that One Way Records rings a bell.  In my case it's
their reissue (via MCA) of James Gang's Yer Album.  Side one is just fine
(more or less), but side two was mastered off of an LP (pops, clicks and
all).

When the Renaissance CDs come out, will someone verify whether they've 
done similarly?

-- 

Frank Malczewski		(fdm@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Richard Sinclair Is Back!?
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:42:09 GMT

rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) writes:
>I heard that Richard Sinclair (ex-Caravan, Hatfield and the North, Camel, etc.)
>has released a new album called "Caravan of Dreams" which is available in the
>UK.  He is reportedly shopping for a US label and a US *tour*!

Where have you been? This was mentioned a few times - Caravan of Dreams
has Andy Ward, Jimmy Hastings and a few others on it too. Voiceprint
records in Kansas City , MO is about to release some other Canterbury 
related release with many of the same players on it, and Rick Chafen of
Voiceprint was tring to book some gigs but it didn't sound too promising. 

A recent issue of Ptolemic Terrascope has a Richard Sinclair interview. I'll
see if maybe I can find a few choice quotes to post. 

  - Malcolm 
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: euahac@eua.ericsson.se (Hakan Carlson)
Subject: Swedish Rock, Trettioariga Kriget
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:58:53 GMT

Could you who wanted cassette copies of my album
with Trettioariga Kriget please EMAIL me again.
I Don't seem to have a working return address to
you.


Hakan Carlson
ELLEMTEL Telecommunication Systems Laboratories
Stockholm
SWEDEN
MAIL: Hakan.Carlson@eua.ericsson.se


Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: the worst Yes song
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:43:32 GMT

In article <78733@ut-emx.uucp> andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)  
writes:
> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
> >There is also no song called "Brain Salad Surery, at least not a  
RELEASED
> >one.
> 
> Of course not...it's spelled Surgery.  ;-)  ;-)
> 
> Seriously, there IS a released song called BSS, on Works 2.

Well the mix of the track on Works 2 WAS really lame compared to the mix  
of the promo 45, but I'd still consider it "released". :-)

Gordon
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Francis Monkman
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:44:56 GMT

An interesting footnote - I was reaeding a Robert Wyatt interview the other
day, I think from last January's Ptolemic Terrascope, and he mentioned that
he had been about to form a band with Monkman and start recording - but his
accident (1973 or 74?) cancelled those plans. It was reffered to as 
"Matching Mole 3" but that might not have been the actual planned band name.

  - malcolm@wrs.com  
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Subject: Re: Prog Rock Isolationism (Was Re: Welcome to alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Reply-To: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:44:26 GMT

This is all very interesting, and I'm sure both sides of the "create
another alt group" debate have valid arguments. But when does this
discussion end and the Peter Hammill news begin? I haven't even heard
anyone mention his name in years and I'm very interested in hearing
what he's been up to lately.
-- 

   -paul	pmartz@dsd.es.com
		Evans & Sutherland
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: hunnicu@seq.uncwil.edu (jeff hunnicutt)
Subject: Re: Asia in new movie soundtrack
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:11:37 GMT


In response to Anil's questions about Asia,

>"Why the hell do I bother with Asia??"

> It's something I've never been able to answer....

> Can Someone recommend a good therapist?

I too used to have this affliction...but found myself cured
after giving "Aqua" a listen or two. Absolute poser/pop/crap.
Howe couldn't help this dog and I wonder why he bothered.

Best wishes for your speedy recovery Anil... ;-) 



-- 
 Jeff Hunnicutt, UNC-Wilmington/Information Systems/Datacommunications 
  \--------------------Wilmington, North Carolina-------------------/   
   hunnic@uncecs.edu hunnicutt@vxc.uncwil.edu hunnicu@seq.uncwil.edu
       "And you and I climb, crossing the shapes of the morning"      
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From: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Yet another inquiry about the Asia CD "Aura"
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:36:08 GMT
Reply-To: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


I was browsing through a recent import catalog and noticed a new
release from Japan entitled "Aura" by  a band also listed as Aura.
I've seen the posts that said that Asia was rumored to have
released a B-sides/rarities album called "Aura" but I've never seen
any posts that confirm this. (Does anyone actually own or has anyone
seen this CD in a store somewhere?) It's possible that the publishers
of the catalog made an error. It wouldn't be the first time.
Anyway, I guess what I'm looking for is some kind of confirmation
that there is a CD by Asia called "Aura" so I'll know whether to
pursue this further.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: ola@vipunen.hut.fi (Ola Rinta-Koski)
Subject: Re: Prog Rock Isolationism (Was Re: Welcome to alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Organization: BREWTeX '92 -- International Boy Stout Organization
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:54:51

In article <jester.714871668@crash> jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:
>I question if there is a need for this group: don't get me wrong, I'm a
>big fan of pH and vdgg, *BUT* this smacks of the elitist, narrow world-view
>promoted by the rush newsgroup.

  That question is, indeed, debatable. Some points follow.

>There *is* a need for fans worldwide to keep in touch with each other,

  Agreed. Case in this particular point: Pawn Hearts.

>but
>how are we to attract new Peter Hammill/Van Der Graaf Generator fans if we
>concentrate our posts in a new newsgroup?

  Perhaps by posting general stuff elsewhere, and more detailed stuff
here? I've been meaning to write a mega-review of ALL of pH's solo
works and post it to rec.music.reviews; all I need is a week or three
of free time...

>The average music listener
>is *not* aware of Hammill, nor are they aware of his influence on the
>European community.

  Not many Europeans are aware of that...

(...)
>Instead of creating these splinter
>groups, there are a couple options available:

>	   o mail lists.  This has worked well for Genesis, Marillion, etc.

  As I mentioned in my previous article, I would have thought that
this would have been sufficient. More administrative work, more
seclusion, but this is indeed the standard practice.

>	   o keywords on subject: starting the subject with VDGG: to make
>				  it easier to autoselect articles of interest.

  This doesn't have the same impact.
  
>	   o working towards rec.music.progressive.  Yes, there are those

  No, please. This would mean

  1. Frequent flame wars about what is and what is not 'progressive'
     (I think most of pH's recent stuff isn't)

  2. Cross-posts to rec.music.misc, which would defeat the purpose
     of r.m.p.

  3. An even more isolationist attitude.


>We should spend more time *sharing* our musical knowledge than we do
>hoarding it in yet-another-altgroup-for-an-artist.

  I think since it's here, let's give it a try. I read
alt.fan.frank-zappa regularly and don't mind in the least. Let's face
it, there are quite some people who couldn't care less whether
"Modern" was the first or second encore in Stuttgart in '87...

>jester@crash.cts.com
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	He had no body image, he had body music.
	And to this inner soundtrack, he moved		Ola Rinta-Koski
	and he acted, fluently, cogently. But...	ola@vipunen.hut.fi
	when the music... stopped, so did he...
From: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: TR/U "The Ikon"
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:56:43 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I recently picked up a copy of "Todd Rundgren's Utopia" on CD....There is
one amazing track on this album "The Ikon" that clocks in at around 30
minutes; I recall seeing this on vinyl many years ago, but never paid much
attention. My question is: is the CD "Ikon" an extended version, or was
the LP version 30 minutes as well. If so, this has to be one of the
longest LP sides around...

peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
From: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: A little more info on the hunt for Asia's Aura
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:07:11 GMT
Reply-To: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


Update on the Asia "Aura" hunt....

I called the importer just a few minutes ago and asked for any info
they had on the CD "Aura" by the band Aura, listed in their latest
catalog. The only info they had on hand was that the CD was released
on 6/22/92 on the Life Size label which is a division of Sony.
(They didn't have the track listing yet.)
If I remember correctly, I think Aqua was also released on a label
that is a division of Sony. I told the operator about the
rumors I'd heard about an Asia CD called "Aura" and was told that
she would check with their Japan distributors about a possible mistake
in the name of the band. She said it wouldn't be the first time it's
happened.
I think the person I was talking to was actually more than just an
operator. She knew a lot about several specific CDs as well as the
import business in general. She said that she would include a note
with my order confirmation (for a different CD) on anything else she
finds out.

Stay tuned.....
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-Dave                     |           If wishes were horses,
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Roger Waters "Amused to Death"
Keywords: premiere/interview on radio the other night
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:00:46 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

On the radio the other night I heard part of the premiere of Roger Waters'
new album, "Amused to Death" and the accompanying interview.  I didn't hear
"What God Wants" like everyone else here seems to have.... but I heard two
other songs - "[It's a] Miracle" and "Amused to Death."

Roger seems to have reached the conclusion that although all the things we
were so afraid of before [q.v. KAOS] shouldn't worry us any more, the things
we aren't afraid of, our day-by-day lives, are going to hell in a handbasket
... tied to the bumper of a formula racecar.  Very moody stuff.  "Miracle"
is a nice gloomy quasi-environmentalist song... and "Amused to Death" is
positively depressing, as evidenced by the long-form of the phrase, which
shows up in the song:

	"This species has amused itself to death."

-Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: INFO REQUEST: Canadian Asia tour dates
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:39:16 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

wcsanil@alfred.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:

>I just heard that Asia will be touring north america in sept/oct.

>If anyone has any info/rumours about Canadian dates in
>Toronto/Montreal/Ottawa, please mail me asap!

If you also hear of any dates in the New York/New Jersey area,
PLEASE post.

Thanks


-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
__________________________________________________

"We're sailing on the wind of better days"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.music.alternative
From: brian@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Brian Antao)
Subject: Affordable Floors
Followup-To: brian@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:28:10 GMT

i	Recently while in Pittsburgh, I discovered the "Affordable Floors"
in a live performance, they were really great. Their latest music is available
as the CD "Drumming on the Walls". I would like to know about other
groups that fall under this category, ie produce similar music.
Any/all suggestins welcome.
Oh, I guess the Affordable Floors are a Pittsburgh based band.

Thanks,

	-- Brian
-- 
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Dept. of Electrical Engg.,     	     |Office: Room 283, New Engineering Bldg.
Vanderbilt University, 		     |Tele: (615)-343-6191(O) (615)-292-6308 (H)
Nashville, TN 37235 	     	     |Fax: (615)-343-6449
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: waiting for waters
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:33:58 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

AR>>I heard the first single (I assume) about a week ago, called "What God Wants
AR>>It sounds kinda cool, a continuation of the Radio KAOS sound.

     When I first heard "What God Wants" on the radio, I could have sworn
     it was a new David Gilmour/Pink Floyd song.  Either Waters has a
     back-up singer (but I haven't heard anything like that), or he's
     trying to be BOTH halves of Floyd now.  The song is certainly as
     Floydian as anything to come off of "The Wall."
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: antbh@strix.udac.uu.se (Bernhard Helander)
Subject: David Bowie
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:09:34 GMT

Sorry to bother this group with something that may not be considered
"progressive" at all:
 
Does anonyone have an idea on the address or faxnumber to David Bowie
or his agent?

Grateful for all suggestions, preferably via e-mail!
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone)
Subject: Re: Where is it ? (Was: Re: Tubular Bells II)
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:10:08 GMT

>
>WHERE did you get it ? I've gone into at least six different record stores
>in the south bay in the last couple days... nobody has it. One store said
>it wouldn't be out until 9/22 !
>

Per the September issue of ICE, September 15th is the release date for
Tubular Bells II.


Regards,

Ralph Marrone
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Subject: Tubular Bells II
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:03:52 GMT

What do you people think of TB II. The question I ask myself is why it's  
called TB II, to me it sounds more like Amarok II. The album is great  
though (IMHO). It's a trip through many kinds of great music. I'd say
Mike's done it again.

/Magnus Ring
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Asia in new movie soundtrack
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:49:46 GMT

I saw Unforgiven tonight (a pretty good movie BTW) and saw the
poster for Freddy the P.O.W. or Freddy the F.O.V. or Freddy
the S.O.B. or whatever the hell that new kiddie movie is called.

Asia doesn't do the soundtrack, but rather they have a song
in the soundtrack. They're in good company too! Lots of great
pop and hip-hop acts!! Great stuff!! BLAH!

Does anyone know if the soundtrack is out yet? Please give us (or
me) label information, track listings etc.. I'm curious about whether
or not it's a brand new track, or something lifted from Aqua.

I'll also take the opportunity to ask this question again:

"Why the hell do I bother with Asia??"

It's something I've never been able to answer....

Can someone recommend a good therapist?

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
From: jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov (J. Porter Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Camel discography and recommendations
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:13:08 GMT
Organization: NASA/MSFC

I've heard a lot of good things about Camel here and there, but I
haven't run into a discography.  Can anyone mail me one, or tell me
where I can get it?

Noteworthy has a only a couple of Camel CD's listed, a Rhino _Compact
Compilation_ and _Pressure Points_.  Are either of these worth having?
-- 
J. Porter Clark    jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov or jpc@gaia.msfc.nasa.gov
NASA/MSFC Communications Systems Branch
From: kutcha@eos.acm.rpi.edu (Phillip Rzewski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: is yesshows on cd?
Keywords: yes yesshows
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:22:06 GMT
Organization: The Voice of Fate

In article <1992Sep2.114316.19091@hemlock.cray.com> horan@hemlock05.cray.com (Rick Horan) writes:
>i have been looking for yesshows on cd. is it? if its not,
>does anyone know why? if it is, can you give me the catalog number.

    A couple years ago my friend was looking to get a collection of all the Yes
on CD and he had to have Yesshows (along with a couple others at the time)
imported from Japan. I have no idea if it's now available domestically.

    The reason, as with any other CD, why record companies aren't in the mood
to put it out domestically is because they don't think they'd make money on it.

--
   Phillip Andrew Rzewski                      Internet: kutcha@acm.rpi.edu
      "Are you real?"                               "I'm 386 enhanced."
From: STEVE.SYCAMORE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Steve Sycamore")
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Album dump
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:40:35 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

My Internet gateway is back online.  Once again, if you're interested in
a list of about 70 albums and CD's that I would like to sell, send an
email request to me.

Steve Sycamore                           steve.sycamore@office.wang.com
(508) 967-1633
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: John McLaughlin
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:53:17 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <sedHOBK00VpOQ0wEVE@andrew.cmu.edu> sl4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott T. Lillis) writes:
|>	Could someone please recommend some John McLaughlin/Mahavishnu
|>Orchestra albums?  
|
|You seem to have missed two of their best.  "Birds of Fire" and "Visions
|of an Emerald Beyond" are excellent.  From what I've seen of your tastes
|I would go out and get "Visions.." as soon as possible.
|
|
|John has a good point about "Visions" and "Birds".  Though visions isn't
|full orchestra, it has great string arrangements with Jean-Luc Ponte and
|a string trio to back him up.

It's Jean-luc Ponty.  He is more of a soloist that part of a strings section
for the most part on the album.  Highlights include the opening cut and
another frantic piece where Ponty smokes Mclaughlin where they're trading 
solos back and forth.  The entire album is meant to be listened to *LOUD*.

|I would reccomend "Birds of Fire" to anyone because
|Mahavishu is nothing short of amazing on guitar in this album.  It has
|the sound of a small, tight ensemble (since it's five piece), but the
|rhythm is certainly very rich.

The only criticism that I have about "Birds of Fire" is that many of the
cuts just seem to go "full bore" and don't change pace.  It might be
a frantic pace but the pace never changes.  That tends to become a bit boring
to me.  "Visions" is much more dynamic.

|  If  you really like "Apocalypse",  there
|is a song on "Birds" called Hope that is reminescent of parts of Vision
|is a Naked Sword.
 
Ponty also plays on Apocalypse.  (As many here know, I'm a big Ponty fan.
Those interested in a Ponty discography are welcome to send email.  I have
a complete one.)

|As for Shakti and Trilok Gurtu& Kai Eckhardt, McLaughlin really seems to
|interact well with eastern musicians and music.  I would like to hear
|more of this kind of thing.  I haven't ever listened to "Inner Mounting
|Flame", "My goals Beyond", or Hussians "Making Music".  I would like to
|know more about them if you have any comments.
 
I don't know what else to say about Making Music from what I've already
said other than "buy it, listen to it, and then *really* listen to it".  
You find it's quite hypnotic.

|Scott Lillis
|sl4q+@andrew.cmu.edu


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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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