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From: williams8572@iscsvax.uni.edu (fEAR AND lOATHING IN cEDAR fALLS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: The candy man can, the green guy can....
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:50:10 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

hELLO,
   Same deal as the last Chicago show, I have about 2 extra peices of candy
which I will give away at the SP show tonight.  I'll be wearing a red on my
head and combat boots.  That should be enough hints.  Hope to see you there.
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From: djm@progress.COM (Dave McMahon)
Subject: Re: Police seek to Ban Ice-T Performing In New Zealand
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:35:57 GMT

dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell) writes:

>	Kinda funny...the husband of one PMRC member (Tipper Gore)
>	is the Democrats nominee for VP. The other prominent PMRC
>	leader, Susan Baker, is the wife of Bush's soon-to-be
>	campaign manager, James Baker.                            

Kinda funny?  Kinda scary that of the two major choices for our
future, each choice has a foothold in the Fundementalist Propaganda Ministry
of the U.S. of A...

dave.
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From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Re: Luc Van Acker
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:45:40 GMT

diane lynn benham writes:
|> Can anybody tell me what group he was/is in other than RevCo?

He has released some solo albums, and an album/single (?) with Three Angry
Poles and possibly more. 
There is a brilliant compilation of most of his works on World Domination
called Catalogue. A review is upcoming...


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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rap,alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Police seek to Ban Ice-T Performing In New Zealand
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:53:07 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

In article <92209.154439U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

Darin M. Powell says:

>>        Of course, this is not meant to imply that I agree with those
>>        stupid motherfuckers who think a song will lead to the murder
>>        of police officers...I just respect their right to be ignorant.
>

Chris Krolczyk says:

>Whatever. Allow me to clarify this by saying that the thing that bothers me is
>is not so much that a veritable flood of police organizations would attempt to
>exercise their first amendment rights,but that they'd attempt to use their
>supposed power and prestige to deny somebody else's right to say something
>they're not particularly happy with. One good thing about all this,IMHO,is
>that the buttheads of the PMRC haven't stuck their censorial noses into all
>of this to propose new restrictions on LP purchases...yet.

	Well, I do agree that it is kind of dumb for them to be
	trying to supress speech. But there is no law against
	acting stupid...Those who disagree should be strong enough
	to speak out against what they're doing.

	I don't think you'll see the PMRC getting into this again,
	since Tipper's going to be our next Second Lady.  To risky,
	politically.  Plus, she has backed down and mellowed out
	a great deal since then...she's happy with the stickers.

	Kinda funny...the husband of one PMRC member (Tipper Gore)
	is the Democrats nominee for VP. The other prominent PMRC
	leader, Susan Baker, is the wife of Bush's soon-to-be
	campaign manager, James Baker.                            

	Darin Powell
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Ministry _Psalm_69_ quick review
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:11:31 GMT

In article <l6u5c0INNbng@aludra.usc.edu> rengen@aludra.usc.edu (Robert Engen) writes:

>Then DONT buy the fuckin CD asshole.  Musicians shouldn't cater to you because
>your stupid enough to buy a CD you don't like.

im sorry, in general i like flames, but only if they either

a) are intelligent, witty or something along those lines
b) they show what an imbecile the person flaming is, so you can attack them

oh wait.. never mind



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I am, therefore I rave.		"If we were still going barefoot, the
 ,				 world would be a much softer place."
dana watanabe 		email to: DWATANAB@UCI.EDU
From: johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Witt Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry/KMFDM GIFs available
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:29:36 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY

I have two high-quality images: the cover of Ministry's Jesus Built My Hotrod
single and the cover of KMFDM's Money album.  Both are eight-bit (256 color).
The KMFDM image is 512x514, and the Minstry image is 580x515 (I also have a
slightly smaller, 546x480 version of it).  I've uploaded them to the archives
at wuarchive.wustl.edu and nic.funet.fi, but if you desperately want one of 
them and don't feel like waiting until they are posted, I will consider sending
a few copies out.  Send email if you're interested.


Hugh Johnson                                         "Who'm I trying to impress?
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute                           Who could care less?"
Troy, New York
johnsh@rpi.edu                                              -- Ministry, TV Song
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira)
Subject: Re: Superconductor quenches
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:38:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.221158.11968@unixg.ubc.ca> pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine) writes:
>In article <2A6AFB18.19376@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>>
>>   If you like ANY recent Ministry at all
>>    GET THE SUPERCONDUCTOR EP "Heavy with Puppy"!!!!!
>>
>>    You will NOT be disappointed.
>>
>
>I didn't like the SUPERCONDUCTER EP at all.  I was listening to it the other
>day (it's on the playlist for the radio station I work at) trying to figure
>out songs for my show and I came across it.  I haven't heard Psalm 69 yet,
>but if it sounds like Heavy with Puppy, "oh dear".
>
   I have to agree with you concerning Superconductor.  I picked up 'HEavy
 With Puppy' knowing only that they were a band with 7 guitars and thought
 maybe they would sound like big Black^2 with all that ammo but no luck...
sounds like typical semi-grunge-meister-fodder for the college radio set
to my ears.  How did they manage to sound so limp with seeevvveeenn guitars?

-Chris Teixeira

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
Subject: Re: CURRENT 93
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 08:07:02 GMT


Yeah a current 93 fan!!!
Its about time somebody talked about a cool band on here.
If you want more info on bands like that , e- mail me and
I willsend stuff back.

"A raping I shall go..." C93
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Ministry @ lollapalooza
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:23:11 GMT


lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay - IWTFM) writes:
>They were OK, as far as stadium bands go, but I really think something
>major was lost in the transition from club to stadium.  Like the sensation
>of being stuck in the middle of total chaos, for one thing.  It seemed
>less....dangerous in a stadium.  Of course, I have no way of knowing what
>it was like beforehand, as I have never seen ministry before this (and I
>could kick myself, cause I had the chance and didn't go....)

whoa.  i saw them at the channel in boston a few years back and it *was*
dangerous.  i had a few whiskey sours to get into the mood and then it was
full throttle mayhem time.  an excellent show - and no long breaks between
songs as you described.  they did "stainless steel providers" near the end
but i was feeling quite ill from the booze and lack of oxygen so i spent
most of it clutched in a fetal position.  my friends found me in the car
afterwards, still fetal.  when they inquired if i was feeling alright, i
looked up and croaked, "burning inside... burning inside..."

-- 
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From: lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephen Lewis Foskett)
Subject: Re: Screw?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:01:14 GMT

>>>>> "00bwanderson" == 00bwanderson  <00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp> writes:

00bwanderson> Does anybody have any info on a band called Screw?  I heard a
00bwanderson> song of theirs ("Burn In Water/Drown In Flame") while passing
00bwanderson> through Toledoe (sorry-I'm from Huntington, Indiana) a couple
00bwanderson> weeks back.  Tres cool...Metallica meets Ministry meets Front
00bwanderson> 242 meets...God knows whomever else...  So...albums?
00bwanderson> Singles?  Where can I get them???  HEEEELP!

The album by Skrew is "Burning in Water, Drowning in Flame" and is out on
Metal Blade records.  Al J. and some other Chicagoans show up on a few of
the tracks.  A pretty good album, I say.  I got it used for $8...

That's all I know...

.s.
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From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Wire "The Offer"
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:00:28 GMT
Distribution: world, local
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Does anyone have the lyrics to Wire's "The Offer" which appears on the "It's 
Beginning To and Back Again" cassette/CD?  I checked the ftp site for Wire 
lyrics, but was not able to find any.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: shaun@octel.com (Ralph Neutrino)
Subject: Re: Ministry and the Butthole Surfers
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:04:32 GMT

In article <2A6893F3.28552@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>
>    "TV Song" is an outright COPY of the Butthole Surfers' "The Shah Sleeps
>   in Lee Harvey Oswald's Grave" (one of the Surfer's FIRST songs on
>   Alternative Tentacles).

"The Shah Sleeps" is dozens of times better, though.  BTW, is that untitled (?)
record with the side view of the ethiopians or whatever, with The Shah Sleeps
and Witchita Cathedral, etc., or LIVE PCPPEP on CD anywhere?  I've never seen
'em.

ObIndustrial: Get yerself a copy of Dead Tech 3.  It is a most righteous 
collection of Japanese grunge and noise.  



-- 
shaun@octel.com  ||  G is for Jesus

"We will buy Iron Camels from GoMotion
   Unlimited in Santa Clara California."
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From: moon!cyberden!flesh@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ministry and the Butthole Surfers
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:26:35 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:

> In article <7836@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> smithmc@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu
> >
> >	I have yet to figure out where the Hell he got the idea for
> >"TV Song." Maybe he was sitting in his store bored one day and he looked
> >out his window and saw the bum that hangs out in a nearby alley. That bum
> >screams weird stuff too.
> 
>     "TV Song" is an outright COPY of the Butthole Surfers' "The Shah Sleeps
>    in Lee Harvey Oswald's Grave" (one of the Surfer's FIRST songs on
>    Alternative Tentacles).
> 
>                                                             K!z!K

only in the sence that the two have very fast drums. 


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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry _Psalm_69_ quick review
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:25:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Jul23.222544.1323
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <l6u5c0INNbng@aludra.usc.edu> rengen@aludra.usc.edu (Robert Engen) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.033129.14596@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic) writes:
>	
>	Gee, yeah...how selfish of me to actually want to like an album I just
>	bought.   A CD I don't like?  ahh, that's OK, I'm glad I spent the 
>	money because atleast the band got to explore and experiment with new 
>	ideas. 	geez...or course I'm selfish.  That's why I buy CDs...I want 
>	to own 	something I like...heaven forbid, I know, but...
>
>
>Then DONT buy the fuckin CD asshole.  Musicians shouldn't cater to you because
>your stupid enough to buy a CD you don't like.
>
>robert.

Okay, okay. Who can spot the flaw in logic here?

Joshua Houk
houk@athena.cs.uga.edu
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From: shaun@octel.com (Ralph Neutrino)
Subject: Re: Front 242 "DSMO" meaning?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:59:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul16.025815.4449@cc.uow.edu.au> mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett) writes:
>
>Does "DSMO" (title of the four-part piece on the "Mixed By Fear" CD) mean
>anything in particular?

Once again, I wait and see no answer.

I'm pretty sure that DSMO is an.. organic solvent?  (I never made it into 
organic chemistry, someone help me out.)  It is readily absorbed through the
skin, carrying along whatever is disolved in it.  The typical story that is
told about it is that you get a dish of it, put in a couple of drops of lemon
(or lemon flavoring,) and put your fingertips in it.  A few minutes later,
you can taste the lemon.  You can also put other substances in it, like LSD,
and then wipe it on doorknobs for the unsuspecting.  

I don't have the CD with me, but isn't DSMO that 4 part piece that ends with
the sample, "This world must be destroyed"?  I've kind of wondered if that
plus the DSMO thing didn't indicate some kind of taking apart and rebuilding
of reality, as far as the song goes.  Television has the same kind of effect,
if you think about it.  

@Man

Kasem was Shaggy?  NO WAY!  "Cmon's, Scoob, let's check out the kitchen...
whew-hew-hew!  I can't catch ghosts on an empty stomach."

"ROOBY RACKS!  RIMMY ROOBY RACKS!"

"If it wasn't for you meddling kids, we might have had a different plot this
week!"

-- 
shaun@octel.com  ||  G is for Jesus

"We will buy Iron Camels from GoMotion
   Unlimited in Santa Clara California."
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: djm@progress.COM (Dave McMahon)
Subject: Re: Intermix - what else would i like?
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:16:26 GMT

westr@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Robert _FinnAgain_ West) writes:

>In article <1992Jul22.221955.13433@cs.brown.edu> map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz) writes:
>>I really like the Intermix (not even going to try the funky caps - i'll leave
>>that to fC9) album (there is only one, right?). but i also do not particularly
>>like FLA's _gashed senses and crossfire_ (the only one of theirs i owned briefly).
>>so what else in that set of FLA-related projects would i like?
>>(Delerium? sounds interesting from what i hear...)

You MUST get the Fred LP.  Sorry, don't have any cat #'s on me, but if you
like Intermix, you'll love Fred.  I bought them at the same time.  They go
very well together. ;}

later.
dave
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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry: Psalm 69 (is really a good album!)
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:21:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Jul23.161110.155@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>> We just have to assume it's good even if it's crap. We have to like it no 
>> matter what? By what other standards are we to determine if we like an album 
>> or not, than by if we like it or not? 
>
>Your own opinion dude. Some of us happen to think that the new album is really
>cool--Ministry's harder and better. If you don't like it and prefer the softer
>wimpier stuff, well, fine, that's ok with me. To each his opinion & standards.

EXACTLY! you like the album, you buy it, but when some fucking moron
calls me selfish for not liking an album and saying it????

shit.. i understand people who say 
'here's my opinion i dont give a damn about yours' 
but i dont understand people who say
imbecile: 'I love NiN' 
moi: 'NiN Sucks'
i: 'why do you have to go around saying that you dont like the music 
i like? do you think you are so great that we all have to 
listen to your opinion?'

i mean one guy is just talking and doesnt tell you not to talk
he just says that if you do, chances are he will ignore it

the second person is saying that they have a righ to go around saying
that they have a right to spew their shit about any band they feel
like and as long as it is positive its okay

but there is music i DONT like and dammit i am going to say it
not becuase i have a right to free speach or any of that BS
just because i like YELLING about things whatever they
are..

>Now, does ANYBODY out there have the lyrics to 'TV SONG'????????
>
>(please?)

oh.. like anyone who feels that he has to whimper 'please'
should get any fucking respect



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 ,				 world would be a much softer place."
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From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NIN and Trent info!!
Keywords: I am not arguing if NIN is industrial
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:30:24 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> Man... this is real OLD news.  How can you people get all excited on
> a 3 year old record?

Beats me, but the fact that the "Opal" mix is, oh, perhaps just over a year
old at most and that it hasn't ever officially been released in the US
might have something to do with it.

--
		      Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
			   "Click click drone."
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ice@skynet.uucp (Ice)
Subject: Re: Ministry _Psalm_69_ quick review
Organization: Industrial Cybernetics
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:46:59 GMT

I think you people are too selfish. All you ever care about is what YOU
want to hear and what YOU like.

Give a band a chance to explore other ways of doing things. There can only
be improvement with change.

/* Ice's Hypermedia Sig */ #include <cyberpunk.h> #include <industrial.h> 
Hardware required: biological neural net with _unsupervised_learning_
Audio() Burning Inside by Ministry; "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" 
Visual() Sarah Connor's flesh on fire blasted away leaving screaming skeleton 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer)
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy: Metro
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.001219.18838@wri.com>, andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:
|> Caught Skinny Puppy at Cabaret metro last night in Chicago. Have to admit  
|> I was a bit dissappointed. The musical side of the show was pretty tepid,  
|> and the audience reaction seemed to be as well (although we're talking  
|> about a pretty existential crowd--not the types to bleat ridiculously for  
|> encores). I did like the light show and performance stuff. Just wish they  
|> could have put a richer sound together, like Last Rites. I gues it would  
|> have required a tape, but I'm not even sure they didn't use such...
|> 
|> Any other opinions on this show out there? This was my first time seeing  
|> them...
|> 
|> AK

Yeah, I think they use tapes.  If they don't, then ogre is a lot more
talented than I ever would have guessed.  In the beginning of "killing game",
someone forgot to turn off the virtual reality video thing after ogre took
his head out of the box, and the next virtual reality episode started 
playing (but should actually have started two songs later).  So, ogre yells,
"Turn off the fucking head gear!", and at the same time you hear his quiet
"singing" of killing game in the background.  

I know that he wasn't lip-synching for the whole show, but I guess they have
his vocals on tape playing in the background just in case too much blood 
gets on his microphone and shorts it out...

tom
From: prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Brainiac catalog info
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:57:47 GMT
Reply-To: prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


	Just recently got a catalog from a mail-order company in New York
called 'Brainiac';  after looking at it, I thought other r.m.i'ers might like
a look.  They have:
		Video (e.g., from Lydia Lunch, Brian Eno, German splatter
	flicks, Japanimation.)
		Brain toys  (yeah right)
		3-D TV kits and vids
		T-shirts (my favorite says "Fuck the world. Save 
	yourselves!")
		Audio (industrial compilations, goth, ska, etc.  They seem
	to concentrate on less mainstream, European stuff.)

	The address is:
				Brainiac
				P.O.Box 1151
				Canal Street Station
				New York, NY 01013-1151

						dylyn

"Storm the Reality Studio.  And retake the Universe." Wm.S.Burroughs
_________________________________________________________________


"One -- you lock the target,	   Two -- you bait the line,
   Three-- you slowly spread the net,     and Four -- you catch the man"
			<<Front242, 'Headhunter'>>
_______________dylyn, at:  prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu_________________
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: shaun@octel.com (Ralph Neutrino)
Subject: Re: Front 242 "DSMO" meaning?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:37:36 GMT

In article <BrtCBo.K3u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>shaun@octel.com (Ralph Neutrino) writes:
>> [a detailed description of something else completely]
>
>That's DMSO.

Well, hell.  What's DSMO, then?  Now I'm wondering.  And what happens if you
dump a bucket of it over a certain FLUSH CHUNDER NINE'S head?

My low-fact guess is that it is an industrial solvent used by the U.S. Navy to
clean bearings and machine parts.  


-- 
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"We will buy Iron Camels from GoMotion
   Unlimited in Santa Clara California."
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