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From: cook@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (The Cookster!)
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Subject: Re: What is a mark ?
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:46:05 GMT
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In article <1992Apr14.175729.21678@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH) writes...
> 
>	O.k.  With everybody calling each other "mark" I want to 
>	know what this means.  

mark  n.  A member of the audience, presumed gullible.

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From: tjm@philabs.philips.com (Thomas J. McDonnell)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   04/09
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:20:26 GMT


						   I BELIEVE YOU EFLOW LUGER
						   WILL BE WRESTLING BY SEPT.
						   AND WILL BE THE WWF CHAMP
						   ON THE NEXT WRESTLEMANIA
From: thebeast@infopls.chi.il.us (Temmerman John)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Elizabeth
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 09:31:47 CDT
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

re: message # 7602, she and Randy got married in 1984.
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From: dean joseph miller <dejmille@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Warrior
Keywords: Warrior on a mountain
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:47:25 -0500

In article <880691c.65.703297887@ace.acadiau.ca> 880691c@ace.acadiau.ca (MATT CUNDILL) writes:
>More Warrior regurgitation...
>
>The first time I remember the Warrior coming into the WWF he would take on 
>jobbers and finish with an overhead press and big splash. He used to come to 
>the ring with a headband a la Rambo. Most marks didn't take to him right 
>away because his interviews bordered on mediocrity. Contents of these 
>interviews did not contain references that drive us nuts like the "Dark 
>Side", "Up on the Mountain", or "All my Warr-yaas". 
>
>His first PPV was at WrestleMania IV. This match was not apart of the 
>tournament... merely called a "Grudge Match" after Hercules spent countless 
>seconds during a syndie choking the Warrior with his chain. For those of you 
>following on the home game, he won as he lifted his shoulder to reverse a 
>Hercules Belly-to-Backpinorwhateveryoucallit. 
>
>Soon after came the interviews, the Marks, The I-C belt.... blah, blah, 
>blah...
>

In fact, wasn't the first SummerSlam card held so that Vince could
give the Warrior the IC belt?  (Well, that and to make Vince money!)

Dean

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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (We make money the ole fashioned way. We beat people for it.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: MACHO MANIA MACHO MANIA MACHO MANIA
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr8.235437.23349@acsu.buffalo.edu>, becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes...
>tjm@philabs.philips.com (Thomas J. McDonnell) writes:
> 
>>						    MAY THE MACHO KING RULE
>>						    FOREVER(OR UNTIL LEX
>>						    STARTS WRESTLING)
> 
>>						    OOOOOOOOOYEAAAAAAAA
>>							  DIG IT
> 
>>							  Tom McDonnell
>								I REALLY WISH
>								YOU WOULDN'T 
>								START ALL THE
>								WAY ON THIS
>								SIDE OF THE
>								SCREEN BECAUSE
>								IT'S VERY 
>								ANNOYING AND 
>								BY THE WAY
>								SID JUSTICE
>								R00LZ THE
>								WORLD!!!!!!!
>								!!!!!!!!!!!!
>								!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                          LEARN TO READ IT 
                                                          OVER HERE. IT IS
                                                          NOT THAT HARD TO
                                                          DO. ANYWAYS, SID
                                                          IS NOT THE CHAMP
                                                          AND I RULE THE 
                                                          WORLD, SO SAVAGE
                                                          IS THE BEST!!!!!


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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:34:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <2185.29E676D6@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner) writes...
> 
>Michael Shames-contractor writes about "Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?" to
>All  [10 Apr 92 17:46]
> 
>MS>  sorry and embarassed to admit my ignorance,  whainhell is a 
>MS> "shoot"? 
> 
>Ignoring the script and going at it for real.  sometimes the booker will tell
>a wrestler to make it a shoot, in order to teach another wrestler a lesson.
> 
>Mike Steiner


   I think the idea that Savage/Flair was a shoot is quite rediculous, for 
reasons already expressed by others.  A quick comment on shoots in general.
Does anyone know of any shoots in the past?  I can't imagine this happening
very often, at least noanymore.  If wrestler A is instructed to actually
beat the hell out of wrestler B, doesn't common sense tell you that wrestler
B will hit back?  After all, wrestler B was obviously not instructed beforehand
that he was about to be the victim of a shoot, so wrestler B would simply think
wrestler A had gone out of his mind or just got carried away.  If wrestler B 
decides to fight back when wrestler A starts trying to kill him, the booker then
runs the very real risk that wrestler A will get his ass kicked up around his
head.  What then?  That is why I don't think the shoot is commonplace in the 
modern wrestling world.  Maybe thirty years ago, when less show was involved, 
but today?  I don't know...
                                                -Eflow
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From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson)
Subject: Re: What is a mark ?
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:25:27 GMT

In article <21136@venera.isi.edu> onder@ISI.EDU (Bruce Onder) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.175729.21678@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH) writes:
>
>>      O.k.  With everybody calling each other "mark" I want to 
>>      know what this means.
>>      I would wager that John Price _is_ smart and that he doesn't
>>      fit the accepted definition of "mark".  
>
>Don't let the backwards-baseball cap and occasional outbursts of
>"Sha-zam!" or "Gol-lee!" fool you -- John Price knows lots.

Wait a minute. I've heard those words before. I know!
You mean John Price is Woody Harrelson?

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
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From: bob@grok63.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Bob Williamson)
Subject: WCW Match Report - Columbia,SC - 4/16/92
Originator: bob@grok63.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Corp
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 13:16:15 GMT

On entering the auditorium, there were hand-written signs noting that
"Due to injury, Sting will not be appearing".  I saw several people 
at the box office getting refunds because they came to see Sting.  
Strange, I didn't realize they would do this if the cards changed.

Approx. 2500 in attendance; the last time thru town, the building was
sold out (4000).

The night started with GM Kapeta announcing that (as had been conjectured
here) Sting had been injured at the Omni last Saturday night at the hands
of Van Vader.  Taking Sting's place against Vader tonight would be ....
Nikita Koloff.  A huge pop from the crowd.

Onto the matches:

Johnny B Badd over Diamond Dallas Page

Double DQ - Freebirds vs Terry Taylor and Greg Valentine

Ron Simmons over Cactus Jack

Big Van Vader over Nikita  (with much help from Harley Race)
   This match was pretty good.  Lots of outside the ring action 
   and included Harley giving Nikita a pile driver.  Nikita got
   a huge crowd reaction - looks like he's a face for sure.
   As Vader was going back to the dressing room, a fan reached
   across the rail and popped him hard on the upper arm.  The fan
   was quickly taken away by security.

DQ - Steiners over AA and Bobby Eaton (with Paul E)
  This was a very entertaining match with Rick doing lots of dogging
  including biting AA's butt and using Paul E as a fire hydrant.

Time Limit - Dustin Rhodes vs Steve Austin
   Dustin had Steve rolled up and at a 2 count as the time ran out.

Steamboat vs Rick Rude (with Medusa)
   What a match!!!!  These guys had an incredible work rate.  They
   went for ~20 minutes with very few rest holds.  When the match ended, 
   both were drenched in sweat. Medusa played a fairly large role in the 
   match including being thrown over the top rope by Steamboat and 
   helping Rude roll Steamboat up for the pin.  If you get the chance to 
   see this match - go!


Fairly enjoyable, especially that last one.


Bob
From: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Wrestlemania VIII: My opinions
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:33:01 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/207.1 - Sunnyvale Fido Conn, Sunnyvale CA


Don Becker writes about "Wrestlemania VIII: My opinions" to All  [06 Apr 92
21:45]

DB> 1.) Sid - Hogan: Well, at the end of this, Papa Shango came out 
DB> after Hogan,  and who should come to his rescue but the Ultimate 
DB> Warrior himself  (At least, I *THINK* it's Hellwig...) No mention 
DB> of Hogan passing  Hulkamania on to him, though. What I dont understand 
DB> is Why the hell  did Shango get involved? What does he have to 
DB> do with anything?  Odds are he will work a program with Warrior, 
DB> as he's the only big  scary heel left after Flair and Sid. 

On Prime Time this evening, they showed Shango in Sid's dressing room before
the match began.  Sid's interview this evening shows that he will work with
the Warrior.

DB> 2.) Flair - Savage: IMHO, big mistake in giving Savage the belt. 
DB> I know quite  a few people will disagree with me, but I think 
DB> the old "face getting  revenge" angle will sell more house show 
DB> tickets than a heel's vengeance. Although this opens the possibility 
DB> of Warrior regaining  the title at WM9 (Savage loses to Sid at 
DB> Summerslam), so would an  extended title reign for Flair. In 
DB> my opinion, Vince is using this  to take potshots at WCW, by 
DB> making their #1 man for 10 years look  bad in the WWF. Bad move. 
DB> Flair may not have been able to carry  this PPV, but I still 
DB> say he's the perfect #1 heel for the WWF at  this point, especially 
DB> in the light of the steroid scandals.

This might be setting up a "Flair gets the title back" angle.  Randy wanted
out, and the belt might be Vince's hook to keep him in for a while longer.

 
/207 143/207
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From: spaz@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Trebor Strunderthuck)
Subject: Re: Slim Jim? Or not?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:47:56 GMT

Oh my god......I didn't see WrestleMania(I should be punished), but is it
true? Could it really be? ULTIMATE WARRIOR IS BACK FOR THE ATTACK???
I'm crossing my fingers and pray that he gets a major push(Hogan like, that is)
.....I will have to watch the syndies this weekend....
I have a feeling with the loss of Hogan...Wince had to cover as far as 
merchandising is concerned. LONG LIVE THE WARRIOR!!!

If anyone has details on the return of the Warrior....e-mail me....


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From: c9107143@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SNACK ON DANGER DINE ON DEATH)
Subject: The Patriot?????????????????????????
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:36:39 GMT

Can someone tell me who the Patriot was and where he is now
 the gwf North American Champion(at least he was...)
thanks
please e-mail me
Later
Kurgen
From: sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: QUIZ #1
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:47:14 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

1.   Name All Three Men Tito Santana has shared the WWF Tag Team Title With?
2.    Where did Mike Rotundo(IRS) And Barry Windham lose the TTC to The
Dream Team?
3.    What was Papa Shango's name when he wrestled for Global WF
4.    Who did Jake Roberts wrestle at WM II?
5.     At WM III who beat Koko B. Ware?
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From: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Subject: Didn't sound like Hellwig
Reply-To: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 01:14:49 GMT

Just heard the Warrior on USA, and it didn't really sound like
Hellwig.  What do you think about the voice?

shaun



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From: lkn@s1.gov (Leland K. Neely)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: News Problems
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:35:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: s1.1992Apr15.163555.16666
Reply-To: lkn@s1.gov (Leland K. Neely)
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

I have been having some poblems with posts getting past my "borders"
Sean, Herb, Stephan, Stilt Man, Pricester, EPH - Please email if you see this?
Thanks!
Lee

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From: ventura@buhub.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: Re: Davey Boy/ Roids (was Re: Wrestlemania 8: What the hell?!)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:57:13 GMT

Here's my theory: 

WrestleMania was running late, so they decided to pull the Smith/Nord match
in order to fit Hogan's match into the 3 hour time frame.

Being at the Dome live, I can say that right before Hogan's match, or where
Davey Boy and the Berzerker's match should have taken place, something very
strange happened. While Fink was in the ring getting ready to make the      
introductions, a WWF special official came into the ring and whispered 
something into Fink's ear. They talked for about 30 seconds, and Howard had
a somewhat puzzled look on his face. After the official left the ring, 
Finkel then went on to say, "This is the Main Event....."

This scandal has been going on for half a year now, and to tell you the truth,
McMahon is never going to acknowledge the existence of these steroid allegationsby pulling any of his wrestlers. He may fire them for other reasons, but he willnever fire them for steroids. If he fires one, then the media will ask why he
isn't firing them all....

One quick note....I believe that this was the first scheduled match to ever be
pulled from a WrestleMania card...
From: a0cb@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Chris Bertholf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Brain Teasers
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:19:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5361
Organization: Portland State University, Computing Services

Joseph Aviolo writes:

>Scott Michael White writes...
>
>[second grade level questions, that the WWF magazine would consider too easy
>   for their crossword puzzle section, ...deleted]
>
>....In regards to your Quiz #1 -#4, I guess imitation is the sincerest form 
>     of flattery.
>
>                                                 JoMosh
>                                        "The Real World's Brain Teaser" 


That really isn't called for, considering that you are not the originator
of the quiz on r.s.p-w. There have been many other quizzes posted on here
before you ever posted your first brain teaser. Some were harder than any
you have ever posted. I decline to respond to all of the quizzes, although
I like the idea (as far as a fun thing to do). What I don't like is the
idea that you somehow post your answers as if you are 'smarter' than the
people who miss an answer, giving stats, etc.

Most, if not all, of your quizzes can be answered by anyone who has a
yearbook (e.g., subscribes to the observer) or any other good sheet, and
has half of a memory.

Credit wher Credit is due... No credit to JoMosh for the brain teasers,
and 1 demerit for insulting someone elses 'valiant' effort, which I am
sure will stump plenty of the r.s.p-w readers. Maybe not all of the
posters, but many of the readers. Try to keep in mind that a lot more
people read this than post here - Mostly because we tend to scare the
newbies out of posting for fear that they might be flamed and called 
a mark, by someone like Joseph, Sean, myself, etc.

Just a simple observation, probably worth much less than $2e-2 to 
just about everyone on r.s.p-w... Except, maybe, Joseph and Scott.


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From: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: Quiz #2( NWA)
Reply-To: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:12:50 GMT


In a previous article, onder@ISI.EDU (Bruce Onder) says:

>In article <0dv57IC00awF49_4gz@andrew.cmu.edu> sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White) writes:
>
>>3.     Besides the Koloffs name another Russian who wrestled for the NWA
>
>Gee, there was that guy Ivan brought over from the Kremlin, but I
>don't recall his name.

I believe you're thinking of Vladimir Pietrov.  Anyone know whatever
happened to him?


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From: clay@cs.utk.edu (Clay P. Breshears)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Cornette's New Tag Team
Summary: Lane & Pritchard are Heavenly Bodies
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:42:08 GMT
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Originator: clay@sirius.cs.utk.edu

Just saw today's installment of "Smoky Mountain Wrestling" where the debut of
Jim Cornette's new tag team was revealed to be "Sweet" Stan Lane and Dr. Tom
Pritchard as "The Heavenly Bodies."  They went on to defeat Bart and Brad
Badden to move on into the next round of the tag team tourney being held.

						clay
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From: sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Quiz #2( NWA)
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:55:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0dv57IC00awF49_4gz
Organization: Freshman, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Quiz #2
for NWA fans\

1.    What was Kevin Sullivans group called consisting of Mike Rotundo
and Rick Steiner
2.     Name 6 wrestlers who were part of The Four Horseman and the
original manager of them?
3.     Besides the Koloffs name another Russian who wrestled for the NWA
4.      Name 5 men who have beaten Ric Flair for The NWA HC 
5.       Name the tag team that came to the ring with the Beastie Boys
song (You have to fight for ......) as their intro song
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From: daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Michael's brother)
Subject: Re: Jake may not be in WCW afterall
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:01:42 GMT

gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU  writes:
> 
>         Hey guys think about this fact.  Wasn't Jake Roberts once allies with
> the LOD in a foursome with another member (paul ellering was at least the 
> manager, maybe he was the fourth member also, it might have been the Warrior)
>         A new angle for Vince to work hmmmmmmmm.
> 
> 
> 
>                                 Jeff Hawkins 
	It never happened when Jake was a face (and winning),
so I doubt it would happen now.  Of course you can never tell
with Vince.

Jake:  Well Undertaker, you really beat the pants off me at
Wrestlemania.  I see the error of may ways now.  I'm fighting
for all the little Undermaniacs now.  Trust me.


					Dave
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From: Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Steroids in wrestling, big deal!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:55:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <12409@umd5.umd.edu> ap72@linus.umd.edu (CMSC 330) writes:
>I don't know how you all feel, but I think that every professional athlete
>should be able to use steroids.  Whether it's wrestling or football or         

>"entertainment".  So the bigger guys you have, the bigger action you get, and
>the more you get entertained. So who cares if Hogan or Warrior used steroids.

	would that it twere so.
	it seems that the bigger they get, the less action you get.
	30 + years ago Haystack Calhoun was something special, but would
	you want all wrestlers to look like Earthquake or (God help us)
	Uncle Elmer (@550+).
	likewise, Sid Juicer is amusing but only because he is unique.
	a sid vs. sid type match would be interesting ONCE but would you really
	want a constant diet of Sid vs. King Kong Bundy?
	sameway, Bobo Brazil was a big man 30 years back -- he would be about
	mid-range wwf today ( not card staus but size range).

	me, i watch wcw and hope snake jumps so i can see a steamboat/snake
	match -- big guys but not freaks.

	also -- Fred Blassie wrestled into his fifties. a roider can't do
	that. i want to keep seeing the good folks for many years to come.
	not to hear announcements that "super roidhead" is in the hospital
	and would appreciate cards.

	i will however admit disapointment with the taco santana/goy boy
	wm8 match -- those guys could have used drugs -- methamphetamine
	though, not steroids
	
			mike (235 lbs) shames