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From: goldberg@crl.ucsd.edu (Adele Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: airline tix to SF for sale
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:27:32 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Roundtrip airline (companion) ticket available: $66

SD -> San Fransisco Jan 28 7:55 p.m. (Thurs)
SF -> SD Feb 1 9:15 a.m. (Mon)

Southwest Airlines

Your name will be on the ticket

Call Adele 625-0307 (leave msg)
or write goldberg@crl.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: thomp962@Armstrong.EDU
Subject: Re: United Mileage plus
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:22:02 GMT


Drop MGM GrandAir from the list.  They ceased operations on 04Jan.

The KLM link is strained, at best.  At least that's what I hear from friends at UA.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rnewman@athena.mit.edu (Ron Newman)
Subject: Re: Need info on Albuquerque
Summary: go somewhere else in New Mexico instead
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:52:42 GMT

> My parents are considering a trip to Albuquerque in the next few weeks. They
> want to find out if that is a good place to retire too.

I have to say that when I drove across the US eight years ago, I found
Albuquerque utterly lacking in charm or character.  Most of it seemed
to be a sprawling mess of suburban trash, err, tract homes, fast food
joints, and highway clutter.

I suggest skipping it entirely.  Poke around nearby Santa Fe and Taos instead.
They still have a distinctive culture, and most of their historic character
intact.


--
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: [USA] Renting a car when you're under 25 yrs old...
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:20:36 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: tiger.zoo.cs.yale.edu

In article <1993Jan27.190137.8354@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.175034.4561@cs.sfu.ca> ekaas@cs.sfu.ca (Erik Kaas) writes:
>>
>>There are two companies that do rent cars: Thrifty and General (at least in
>>L.A.), but you'll have to pay $10 (Thrifty) or $5 (General) PER DAY extra when
>>you're 24.
>
>Unfortunately, General doesn't exist any more -- it's been bought by
>Dollar.  :(
>-- 
>Patricia Martin Steward                      patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
>I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
>I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
>ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913

When was that? And do they still operate as General? I ask because
I made a reservation with General (on behalf of someone) for collection
at LAX. They still called themselves General. May they still exist but
under a different ownership? 

Dicky.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ahmedss@ntmtv.UUCP (Syed Ahmed)
Subject: Need Info On Seattle to Vancouver
Originator: ahmedss@gassendi
Reply-To: ahmedss@ntmtv.UUCP (Syed Ahmed)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:10:30 GMT


Hi, I am planning a trip to Vancouver from San Jose, Ca, like this:
	San Jose to Seattle by Air( Probably Morris Air),
	Seattle to Vancouver by Car( Rented ).
Has anybody out there done it already, if yes then share your experience !
I also am curious about taking a rented car to Vancouver, Any Problems ?

ThanX Ahead.

Syed Ahmed:
Internet: ntmtv!ahmedss@ames.arc.nasa.gov
From: J019800@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: help!!!! family tours in europe
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:10:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: LMSC5.93025.47428.J019800
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

i have wife and two children 11 and 7. we would like to tour europe this summer
 could you please sent me recommendations concern travel companies that you ha
ve used or recommend. we want to see england, france, switzerland, and italy. m
y wife and i went on an american express tour back in the 1980's and had a grea
t time.    all information is appreciated!!!!!   thank you in advance.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: greg@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Greg Pisanich)
Subject: Tips on flying standby
Summary: Need tips on ways to fly standby.
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:15:21 GMT


This is probably a FAQ, but I'll dig since I'm new to the group.

Flying Standby.  Can you save money by flying this way, assuming that
you have the time to be flexible on flight days and times.

Also, assuming that you're going to do this, how can you maximize you
probability of getting a flight?

There must be some intrepid travelers out there that know the tricks?

Thanks

greg 


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ah505@yfn.ysu.edu (Brian Quinby)
Subject: Re: More favorite beaches.
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:47:52 GMT


My vote is for Huanchaco near Trujillo, Peru.

		Brian
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Looking for James Herriot [Followup #1] 8)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:58:32 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu

isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE) writes:

>4.  He may not be friendly to autograph hunter 8(  (ie all his fans) 

I wouldn't put it as that he's not friendly - but that he would like
his privacy.  

>5.  He may have retired from his practice and is living 
>    somewhere else (Scotland?)  ;(  (worst info I received)

In an interview I read last summer (in Dog World, no I don't know
which issue) it said he was still living around Thirsk but is, in
fact, retired from practice. 


--
It's a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that
one's safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a
government contract.
  -- Alan Shepherd, Apollo astronaut

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
From: csjan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jan Faires)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Costa Rica
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:34:50 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu


Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Keywords: 

My email is bouncing like a basketball, please excuse the
bandwidth:  Hal, thanks *MUCHO* for the coffee!  Jeff,
your postcard arrived and is beautiful!

Thanks!
Jan
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: anderson@agps.lanl.gov (Wayne Anderson)
Subject: Portugal
Organization: A-10, LANL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:41:54 GMT

My wife and I will be making our first trip to Portugal at the end of
August.  Any information as to places to stay, where to go, etc. will
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Wayne
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: How long to stay in HongKong/Bangkok/Singapore ?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:56:34 GMT

Ashesh Parekh (parekh@cis.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan26.152336.23181@delos.stgt.sub.org> stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold) writes:
: >
: >I'm planning to do a trip to Australia in Summer 93. I want to see
: >at least two of those 3 cities mentioned in the Subject (Hong Kong,
: >Bangkok, Singapore). Which city would you recommand ?
: >
: >How long should I stay in those cities ?
: >
: 
: I have seen Singapore and Bangkok.  Out of those two I'd most certainly
: pick Singapore - by far the best (in all respects) city I've EVER seen (I
: have seen my share of cities).  You'll be surprised - it beats just about any
: city in the US (in terms of cleanliness, friendliness, public transport,
: sights, technology, you-name-it!)
:

Hi Stefan!

I am from Singapore ....
I agree with Ashesh with his points on Singapore BUT 
I think he misses out the more attractive point ...

Basically, we are multi-racials here .... so if you have
very little time ( < 1 week ) but will like to see the
tradition & culture of Chinese, Malay, Indian & others,
Singapore is the place for you.

Try China Town for Chinese, Little India for Indian
and Geyland for the Malay ... try their local foods
and forget about the restuarants in Orchard Road !


george from Singapore

isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg
From: jamie@sirius.digital.co.jp (James Lyall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: travelling to India
Date: 21 Jan 93 04:19:51 GMT
Distribution: rec.travel
Organization: Digital Electronics Corp., Osaka, Japan

A friend and I are planning a 6 week trip to India this summer - from 
mid July through August.  I have a whole bunch of questions...

 - What's the weather like??  I believe this is (early) monsoon season,
   but that the monsoons spread from the south to the north.  Therefore,
   would it be best to stay farther north?

 - Any advice about precautions considering the recent "unrest" in India?
   (ie.  "Don't Go!")  From reading the limited media reports available
   in Japan,it is hard to know how widespread the fighting or rioting has
   been.

 - How's the food?  I've heard varying reports, from "I couldnt eat anything"
   to "There was great food everywhere".  All I am sure of is that it's hot.

 - Has anyone tried camping/biking in India?  We are a mildly adventuresome
   couple, and will probably be taking a tent and maybe even bicycles.
   Would this be dangerous (robbers etc) or difficult (finding clean water
   etc)??

 - Is the overland route from New Delhi to Kathmandu passable by bicycle?
   related question:  is the Nepal/Tibet border open?  (for Canadians)

Any comments on these or any other aspects of travelling in India would be
much appreciated, by email if possible.

Domo Arigato -
    
 Jamie  {jamie@nanko.digital.co.jp}
                     ^^^^^^^ - no relation to Digital (DEC) based in Texas
From: axeman@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (Samir Chopra)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Rail travel in Western Europe
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:41:07 GMT
Organization: AT&T

I plan to spend a couple of weeks in Europe this coming summer 
and was hoping to travel around by train. I don't have very ambitious
travel plans; as a result, I dont think I will need the Euro-rail pass.
I might be mistaken however; I'd appreciate any tips that come my way.

I basically plan to arrive in either Paris or Amsterdam and then
visit London, Bonn and Munich, arriving back at my point of arrival.
Put roughly, my plans look as follows:

Fly in to Paris:  Paris -> Munich -> Bonn -> Amsterdam -> Paris

Fly into Amsterdam: Amsterdam->Paris->Munich->Bonn->Amsterdam

I would be very grateful for any info on the best way to manage this. Any 
other tips on when, where and how to buy tickets much appreciated. Please
reply by E_mail.

Thanks bunches,

Samir
-- 
"You guys are gonna smoke in the other room, the smoke will come drifting in
here..it'll look like rose stems, but there's tiny nooses hanging from them.."
Support the Freedom of Choice Act | 11/3/92: Restoration of Democracy Day
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dans@panix.com (Dan Simoes)
Subject: Carribean books for sale
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:52:54 GMT


I have two books for sale, because I thought we were going to ST.Martin for our
honeymoon, but it turned out to be Ixtapa.  SO, these are brand-new, but I can't take them back because I don't have the receipts:

- Birnbaum's Carribean 1993
- Frommer's Carribean 1993

Original prices are $17 and $18 respectively -  yours for the best offer
over $25.

| Dan |

-- 
Dan Simoes                                       Voice: 914.747.2900 x415
Danix Consulting                                 email: dans@panix.com or
Yorktown Heights, NY                                     dans@danix.uucp
From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: adventure in latin- and southamerika
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:25:50 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1993Jan25.172146.19126@super.org> jill@super.org (Amelia
J. Scott-Piner) writes about chewing coca leaves:

>The local indians chew wads of it.  We didn't go that far.  Refused it on the 
>first stop, were dying for air by the second so we drank a cup for relief.  It
>worked for about an hour, then the headaches came back in full force.  

Chewing coca (along with bitter stuff that makes it work that the
locals referred to as `lime') made all the difference in the world.  I
was having heavy duty altitude exhaustion trying to climb at Pisac
(near Cuzco).  After chomping on a wad of leaves I felt like Superman.
Then I scrambled up, down, and everywhere for about two hours without
noticing the altitude.  The tea helps a little, but chewing those
leaves is the best thing for soroche (altitude sickness or
exhaustion).

SJM
From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bus from Costa Rica to Panama?
Keywords: bus costa rica panama
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:22:11 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1993Jan20.171459.14935@gssec.bt.co.uk>
cwilson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Colin Wilson) writes about bus service between
San Jose CR and Panama City.  I would add that there is daily service
from San Jose to Sixoala via Limon.  This allows you to cross to
Guabito in Panama.  From there one can easily get to Bocas del Toro if
that is one of your Panamanian destinations.

I would also add that both trips are on terrible roads and very hot.
The AC on the buses from SJ to Panama almost never works.

Xref: sparky rec.travel:18295 rec.travel.marketplace:454
From: smclewin@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Scott M McLewin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: Accomodations near Metro-Tronto Convention Centre
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:51:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ultrix.9301261550.AA18167
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 
 
I am looking for an inexpensive place to stay for a few days while I am
at a convention in Toronto.  The closer to the Metro-Toronto Convention
Centre the better.  I would like accomodations for two people.
 
Please e-mail all replies.  I don't read the news enough to catch posted
replies.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Scott M McLewin
smclewin@ultrix.ramapo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rajiev@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Rajiev Gupta)
Subject: Re: London accomodations advice needed
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 12:02:16 GMT
Organization: Eurocontrol - Central Flow Management Unit
Keywords: inexpensive lodgings

In article <38257@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> nemo@chameleon.cis.ufl.edu (Richard Newman-Wolfe) writes:
>Does anyone have anything + or - to say about the following places to
>stay in the Bloomsbury area of London (or know of any other places in
>the area that are worth checking out)?  We are trying to find a place
>for less than 70 pounds a night.  TIA,
>Nemo
>(I'll post results if there is interest)
>
>Place                Comments
>-----                --------
>Academy
>Bloomsbury Park
>Bonnington
>Forte Crest
>Grafton
>Harlingford
>Kenilworth
>Kingsley
>Mabledon Court
>Marlborough
>Mentone
>Montague Park
>Mountbatten
>Portland
>Russell
>Russell House
>-- 
>Richard E. Newman-Wolfe                   (904) 392-1488/392-1220 fax
>CSE-301, CIS Department, University of Florida       nemo@cis.ufl.edu


I have stayed at the Mountbatten once (about a yaer ago).
It's very well located not far from Leister Square (4 min walk).
The service was excellent and the staff helpfull. The rooms
can be slightly smaller than other hotels.

Rajiev 
rajiev@cfmu.eurocontrol.be

staff very helpfull.
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Queries about Italian costs
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:58:58 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <1993Jan22.231435.14504@zeus.ieee.org>, sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Boo
key) writes:


|> So the question is: Is Milan-Verona-Venice-Firenze-Rome with side-trips in
|> ten days too much to do?

I think it's a bit too much.  I spent 16 days in Italy over the
Christmas-New Year's holidays, and only visited Venice (7 days),
Firenze (5 days), Pisa, Siena, San Gimignano, and Milan (1 day each).
I could have maybe done with only 3 or 4 days in Venice,
but I was fascinated by the place and stayed longer.

I didn't find Milan the least bit interesting or charming, and I would
plan on leaving it as soon as possible. (Well, the Duomo is worth
a brief look, and if you're into opera you might try getting
a ticket to La Scala, but that's said to be quite difficult.)

|>  Are tourist attractions like the Vatican and
|> the Uffizi frightfully expensive?

That's hard to answer, because I don't know what you consider
"frightfully expensive".  The Uffizi costs 10,000 lira, which is
about $6-$7 depending on the exchange rate.  The (Florence) Accademia costs
the same price--which is a lot for a museum whose primary purpose is
to hold a single statue.  (On the other hand, that statue is
Michelangelo's "David", so I certainly found it worth the price
of admission.)     Most other museums cost less--anywhere from
5000 to 8000 lire.

|> How prevalent are places that take Visa  and/or Mastercard?

Cheaper one-star hotels and less expensive restaurants often won't
take credit cards;  you should bring some traveler's cheques and not
plan to depend totally on plastic.

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: meyerd@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Dietrich Meyer)
Subject: Vancouver, BC to Mexico
Originator: meyerd@hphalle9.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:37:15 GMT


Hi Everyone, 

Maybe there is anyone out there, who could help me 
a littlre bit:
In march, I'm going to Whistler Mountain for skiing. After that, I want to go to
Mexico. But what I want to know, is: 

What's the cheapest way to get there?

Grayhound would be cheap, but it would take couple days or even more to Mexico,
DF. Is there a Student Travel Office in Vancouver, BC. where you can get cheap
airplane tickets?  
Thanks a lot for any information!!


CIAO
   
      Dietrich
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Help with European trip?
From: cornell@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 23 Jan 93 13:43:25 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

I am going to be visiting Europe this spring, on my way to
a conference in Graz, Austria. This will be my first trip to
Europe.

I will be arriving in Paris on the afternoon of Tuesday 23
March, and I have to meet my wife in Vienna on Saturday 3 April.

The days between are quite open, though I am *very* tentatively
thinking of spending 3-4 days in Paris, then head down to Switzerland
(Zermatt), and then Milano.

I am on a pretty tight budget, too, but figured that as long as the
airfare was being covered by the school, ...

Anyway, please send me any suggestions, comments, warnings, or the
like. It would be greatly appreciated.

-- Lee



+---------------------------------------------------------------+
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| MSU Box 225                      FAX  : (507)-389-6376        |
| Mankato State University     Internet: CORNELL@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU |
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+---------------------------------------------------------------+
From: mikem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Mike Moores)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Trip to Thailand
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:20:29 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I am leaving for a 2 week trip to thailand in about a month and I need 
some suggestions for itineraries. I was thinking of doing a week in 
Bangkok and a week in Chiang Mai, does this sound about right? Also any 
reccommendations for places to stay in Chiang Mai? Thanks,
Mike
E-mail me if you wish.

--
Mike Moores              mikem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kj@nwu.edu (Kathy Johnson)
Subject: Accommodation: French Riviera
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Info Services, Northwestern Univ.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:35:38 GMT

We'll be travelling in the south of France - by car - the last week of
February  and the first week of March.  We will arrive in Nice by train and
pick up the car there.  I would prefer to find accommodation in a town
smaller than Nice - anywhere between Cannes and the Italian border - it
does not have to be on the water...we don't mind venturing into the hills. 
A pension or small hotel, moderately priced with private bath, is what
we're seeking.  Actually, Cannes is my first choice  but I could be easily
persuaded to try someplace else if a real gem is suggested.  

Kathy Bates Johnson
Office of Information Systems & Technology
Northwestern University
kj@nwu.edu
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Saturday, 23 Jan 1993 09:53:28 PST
From: Lois White <LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Language problem in Europe

Athens:  In Athens you should have no problem getting around if you speak
only English.  Almost all the shop keepers, restauranteurs, even many
taxi drivers, speak at least some English.  In other cities in Greece,
you won't have much of a problem either, as many young people have studied
English in school, so you should be able to find someone almost anywhere
who can (and will) help you.

Rome:  Same as Athens.

Amsterdam:  I haven't been there, but friends who have been there tell me
that most Dutch people speak English.

Paris:  Many people in Paris speak English, but you will probably encounter
some who will do so only grudgingly.  I speak some fractured French, and
even that seemed to be more acceptable than English in some places.

Romantic?  Paris, of course!  Nothing is quite like a walk along the
quay next to the Seine where you can look up at Notre Dame cathedral!
From: auerbach@ncsu.edu (David D Auerbach)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Europe car rental
Summary: Best company for France rent-a-car
Keywords: France car auto rental rent
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:28:40 GMT
Organization: NCSU

I know this must be a FAQ, but: I need to rent a car for about 10 days, in
France.  I know that it pays to arrange it from here (USA).  Who should I
call for the cheapest and yet reliable deal?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ellis@osf.org (Ellis S. Cohen)
Subject: Info wanted about St Maarten
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:42:37 GMT

I'm headed off to St Maarten next month for a
vacation with my wife and 6 yr old son.  We'll
be staying mostly at the Pelican Resort.

I'm eager to hear about any anecdotes and useful
info (what to see / what to do / what to avoid /
where to eat, etc).

I'm planning to travel around for two or three
days at the end of the trip, and am interested
in suggestions about where to stay and what to
do.

  -- Ellis
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: City Maps Needed ..Help!
From: mcbride@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Bill McBride)
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:38:45 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute

Fellow travelers:

I need detailed city maps for the below cities.  This is in support of
a "quicklook" research effort.  All maps will be returned.  I'll pay Federal
Express both ways.  If you can help, please contact me by email at the below
address.  

Frankfurt, Ge.
Yokota, Ja.
Yokosuka, Ja.
Riyadh, SA
Bahrain
Pohang, Korea
Singapore
Fujairah, UAE
Agana, Guam

Thanks for any help in advance.

Bill McBride     

billm@swri.edi    or billm@wmcbride.datasys.swri.edu

Southwest Research Institute    San Antonio, Texas  USA