From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists, er, USENETters
Followup-To: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa,alt.flame
Summary: It's flaming, again. Fun, fun, fun!
Keywords: obnoxious loudmouthed bigotted culturally impaired USAian disgrace 
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:54:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.160751.19046@sinix.UUCP>, 
ian@sinix.UUCP (Ian Malone) continues his little stormtrooper pavane in 
soc.culture.usa and now really merits horse-whipping with barbed wire. I'll
be utterly delighted to accomodate You there, boy:

(Attention, Stupendous Man, Silva, this is exactly the type of poster that
I have been alluding to earlier this year. So how do You like him?)

|>In article <1992Aug26.210041.23067@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> margulis@inf.ethz.ch
|>(Eugene Margulis) writes:
|>
|>....Mr Margulis appears to be from Switzerland.

Given that the ETH is an institution which is fairly internationalised, and, 
btw, has an excellent scholastic reputation, I'd be very careful with 
half-assed assessments such as this. Unwarranted assumptions are the best 
way to make a compleat ass out of Yourself on USENET.

Not that You care, I suppose.

|>>Unfortunately many (probably not most) are. The basic problem, as far
|>>as I believe, is with the totally inadequate system of education in 
|>>the US. Thus you get all these undereducated americans that seem to 
|>>be specifically bred to "do" Europe in 5 days or less.

|>Yea, right asshole.  That's why the entire world flocks to schools in the
|>US.  Sure, make your ridiculous conclusions, you'll probably be applying
|>here for grad school. 

From stupid generalisations to even more stupid and decidedly ignorant 
generalisations? I'll grant You that there are many very good educational
institutions in the US, but then there are numerous European Universities
with as good a reputation. However, half of the world flocks to Europe to 
study, and that's USAians, too. What's Your point, boy, if You have any, 
that is?

The US school system, however, has been under fire for a very long time now, 
and its record and its reputation has been atrocious, as is just now being 
discussed in this very group. Would You now kindly pull that pointy head of 
Your's out of Your colon, or, failing that, clench Your sphincter even 
tighter than it is now as to spare us further suppurations of this ilk?

|>                      And if we do have to hurry through Europe, it is
|>because unlike the European, we *work*, none of this 6 week of vacation
|>a year shit.  But I guess banking drug-money isn't that time consuming.

Well, boy, why don't You just haul Your laggard ass back to that one and 
only country with that one and only work ethos and that one and only 
incomparable economic and social morality that You seem so besotted with?
I mean, holding Your nose all the time living in that den of iniquity that
is Europe seems to be deucedly uncomfortable, so why not just cut and run?
And what with all those scare repressed sheep, it can't be fun either.

It is said that traveling, or going abroad, educates. With You I have to 
conclude that it only reinforces mindless bigotry.

|>>I was in Munich last week-end and went to Dachau - the site of the nazi
|>>concentration camp. There were lots of people from all over the world.
|>>The only ones being loud and having their pictures taken in front of
|>>the gate with "Arbeit macht frei" were the americans.
|>
|>Yea, those same asshole americans that saved you and everyone else's
|>asses from the Nazi.  I seem to remember Switzerland being neutral.
|>Yea, that would have lasted long.  You would have been a state of
|>Bayern. 

Naw, even the Nazis needed a tax-shelter and a haven for their illgotten
gains. But then again history doesn't seem to be Your forte. Remember, boy,
that the US had to be dragged kicking and screaming into WWII. Of course
You don't remember that Rooseveldt won the '40s election on the strength of
not getting into yet another European embroglio. Of course You don't know 
that Germany declared war on the US and initiated hostilities. Of course 
You forget the paltry little contributions of countries like the UK or the
USSR. Of course!

Is that what I have to expect from a graduate of Your excellent school
system and even more excellent higher education, hmm? If so, I cannot
really say that I am exactly overawed by it, what with Your showing here.

|>Living in Munich, I have been to switzerland a few times.  The people are
|>honest, hard-working, dull and have no spirit what-so-ever.  It really
|>has to be the most utterly boring place in the *entire* world.  

Groovy, really groovy! Ian Malone, cultural critic extraordinaire, succinctly 
and eruditely sums up Swiss, or for that matter European, mentalities in one
swell foop, finds them not like what he's used to in Smalltown, Somewhere, 
USA, and thus not to his liking, and passes judgement on them from the high 
ground of his small-checkered variety of imprinted cultural assumptions, ex
cathedra from his belly button. Oh joy!

You are exactly that type of boorish, obnoxious, overweening, smallminded, 
bigotted, provincial and loutish USAian that I would run, not walk, tens of 
kilometers out of my way _not_ to meet, and which I have never had the 
misfortune to come across im my working environment with 100+ USAian 
colleagues, or privately, in all these years. I can only conclude that You 
have been permitted by mistake only to leave the US, since there seems to be 
a secret policy to keep the worst boors under wraps as not to taint the image 
of the US overmuch.

They seem to keep them for USENET.

|>What's the matter, you can't understand Americans, 

I understand USAians just fine, I just have problems with Your ilk.

|>                                                   haven't had an original
|>thought in years? 

Why don't You just keep that big mouth of Your's shut, boy? Why do You 
insist on reaming Yourself with selfreferential accusations? Is that
masochism or shere native stupidity?

|>                  Gee, why don't you just say the same ole shit that
|>everyone else has for years and years.  

Gee, because in Your case I posit that it is the truth, and nothing but the
truth. 

|>                                        Gee, I'd rather be a loud amused
|>American that a wooden puppet.

That, You wooden-top, is not a choice for You to make. Kindly look up those
words in the dictionary and see whether You haven't mixed up loud with 
loudmouthed and amused with boorish, or rather tactless.

I think I understand why people close up in Your presence. I'd do, too.

|>Ian Malone
|>
|>That's Mr. Malone to you.

No, Mooselips, what with Your exeedingly puerile outburst its 'boy', only.

Now go play on the A8, boy!

|>>
|>>-eM 
|>
|>follow ups to alt.US.bashing.is.getting.old, alt.gee.I.wanna.be.swiss

No, sweetheart, just for You it's going to
 alt.land.of.the.knaves.and.home.of.the.fee ! Have fun.

(My, my, my, but USENETting does improve Your command of a foreign language!) 

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