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From: j_hardin@oz.plymouth.edu (James J. Hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Bowl Games vs. Playoff System
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:42:23 GMT
Reply-To: j_hardin@oz.plymouth.edu (James J. Hardin)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.


Every football season the dispute continues over the #1 team in the country.
With this dispute, the cry goes out for some type of play-off system.
Undoubtely, a play-off system will determine a clear-cut national championship.
I have always liked the bowl games.  There is nothing better than
huddling around the TV on New Year's Day nursing a hangover with your
friends and trying to watch as much football as possible.  But this
season has made me think that a play-off system wouldn't be a bad
idea.  Why?  Because I want to know who the best team in the country
is and I want to see it decided on the field.  I'm tired of seeing the
national championship decided by a group of sport writers who seem to
know  nothing about football.  These guys change their minds over #1
more than I change my underwear.  Just because these guys may write
and follow college football for a living doesn't make them experts.  I
probably watch as many games as they and nobody is asking me for my vote.

With all the money involved in the bowl games, it's likely they will
continue for many years to come.  Every year, more corporate sponsors
become involved and more money is at stake.  Why should Miami,
Washington, Michigan, Florida State and others not favor the bowls
when every year they pick up a few million bucks just for playing in
the game.  Letting corporate sponsors in was the first mistake.  It
wasn't too long ago when the Federal Express Orange Bowl was just the
Orange Bowl and there was no Mobil Cotton Bowl.  These new bowl
alliances could also lead to many teams playing each other every year.
It might happen this year.  Washington-Michigan in the Rose Bowl,
Texas A&M-Florida State in the Cotton.  Miami-Nebraska could end up in
the Orange and Notre Dame-Florida could meet in the Sugar.  Hopefully,
this won't happen.(These match-ups may not happen with the new bowl
alliance.  If anybody is familiar with the new alliance, please let me
know what the hell is going on.)

As far as a possible play-off, I have heard some interesting possibilities.

1.  Play the bowls as usual and let the morons(sports writers) due
their thing on Jan. 2.  Let the #1 and #2 ranked teams play for the
National Championship.

2.  Have a play-off with the top 4 ranked teams.  1 plays 4 and 2
plays 3 and the winners meet for the title.

3.  Do away with the bowl alliances entirely.  Let each team pick and
choose their bowl and hope the two best teams want to play each other.

*****Just some rumos that I hear and read.  Please, tell me what you
think about this whole dilemna.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: How CU could still win the Big 8 (hee hee)
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:48:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.225138.17070@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>
>>OK, here's what must happen:
>
>>Kansas beats Nebraska.
>>Colorado beats Kansas.
>>Oklahoma beats Nebraska.
>
>>Unlikely? Yes. But at this point in the 1990 season, no one thought CU could
>>win the MNC. and they did. Stranger things have hapened.
>
>my apologies. Nebraska must lose to Oklahoma and either a) tie Kansas or 
>2) lose to Kansas, provided Kansas also loses to Missouri. 

Then CU would *tie* OU for the Big 8 title.  The buffs would likely go
to the OB by virtue of the higher ranking.
Fat chance.

>I'm hoping for a Poulan Weedeater Independence Bowl appearance myself for 
>CU. It's merely 5.5 hours from my house.

What a deal!  I am hoping for the Aloha Bowl.

>Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!

    OOOO      
   O    O     =================================== |     Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            | dostalik@utdallas.edu
   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |    Dept. of Physics    
    OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    | Univ. of Okla. @ Dallas    
      U    U  =================================== | 
       UUUU                                       |  "Oh, yeah?"  "Yeah."
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Question: PAC-10 tie-breaker
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:28:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Nov10.233723.29495@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:

>>Just a question... NOT about who's going to win or what
>>anybody thinks about the race, but just about the tie-breaker
>>rules...          
>>
>>If USC were to beat UA, and WSU were to win its final two games,
>>leaving the top three teams as
>>
>>   UW   9-2
>>   WSU  9-2
>>   USC  9-2

>First off, USC would end up 8-2-1, not 9-2.  Don't forget that nasty
>tie with San Diego State. Here are the current standings:
>
>				W  L T Pts  OP   W  L T Pts  OP
>Washington                      5  1 0 151  59   8  1 0 238  90
>Arizona                         4  1 1 118  66   6  2 1 204  77
>Wash. St.                       4  2 0 146 130   7  2 0 261 190
>Stanford                        4  2 0 103 106   7  3 0 215 169
>USC                             4  2 0 132 108   5  2 1 183 149
>[...]
>So if UW beats OSU, but loses to WSU; UA loses to USC, USC wins out over
>UA, UCLA, and Notre Dame; WSU beats Stanford and UW then the rankings would
>look like this:
>
>Washington	6-2-0	9-2-0
>Washington St	6-2-0	9-2-0	(1 win over 1-AA Montana)
>USC		6-2-0	8-2-1

I jumped into this in the middle, but is there some reason you're
excluding Arizona?  If Wazzou knocks off the Huskies and UA wins
its final two (which shouldn't be a problem) then we get to watch
the Desert Swarm on Hangover Day, no?




-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
From: ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:10:57 GMT

tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>SMU 41 Houston 16

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Dandy Dan Freiburger for the Heisman!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Big East Preview for November 14, 1992
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:03:23 GMT

In article <BxM4C7.JvJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
> 
> Big East Preview for November 14

> Prediction:  Louisville 20, Pitt 14.

Interesting.  Of the 33 entrants in the Big East Contest, all
33 pick Pitt to win this game.  Which, I guess, shows the
advantage/disadvantage of picking all the games in advance of
the season.  Personally, I like it the way it is.  It is also
a lot easier to administrate this way.  Opinions?




-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@quartet.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
From: toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma)
Subject: Re: How Billy Joe Hobert Spends Money
Organization: Not bloody likely around here!
	<1992Nov6.003847.3069@tamsun.tamu.edu>
	<1992Nov6.012518.25771@u.washington.edu>
	<1992Nov6.122729.14584@walter.bellcore.com>
	<dkm2.721065154@Isis.MsState.Edu> <j7==TVA@engin.umich.edu>
	<1992Nov9.194047.7099@dg-rtp.dg.com> <HqB=XaC@engin.umich.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:37:54 GMT


	   His friends may have noticed, but the coaching staff certainly did
   not.  Do you think that Don James would go hunting or partying with Billy
   Joe?  


Maybe not, but James may want to go hunting FOR Hobert if this turns
out badly.
--
toma@tc.cornell.edu - Rory Toma

Opinionated and tunnel-visioned? Darn right. But then, my employer really
doesn't know what I'm talking about anyway...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: steinse@eng.auburn.edu (Scott E. Steinbrink)
Subject: Re: Auburn--NCAA comes a callin'
Reply-To: steinse@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:47:34 GMT

<JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>  [Jim Thomas] writes:
>Yesterday the NCAA sent an official letter of investigation
>to Auburn, citing *9* major violations of NCAA regs.  Among
>the charges (never really specified by ESPN, but I can only
>assume they are related to the Eric Ramsey business) is the
>claim that Pat Dye was aware of the various violations, but
>took no action.  Auburn says they will cooperate fully; Dye
>isn't saying anything.
 
For what it's worth, yes, the charges stem specifically from the Eric Ramsey
scandal.  I personally believe that Dye is a dead duck.  And he (Dye) hasn't 
really commented on the charges, but he seems to think that his job is safe
because "Auburn can't find a coach better than me."  NOTE THAT THAT IS *NOT* A
DIRECT QUOTE.  Anyway, Dye appears to have an inflated opinion of his own 
level of immortality.

>This could be serious trouble for Dye and Auburn, especially
>coming on the heels of the sanctions handed down to the Auburn
>tennis and basketball squads for infractions that occured while
>Dye was still AD.  

Very serious trouble, indeed, IMHO.


Scott Steinbrink
WAR BUFFALO!!!!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: National Champs
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:12:25 GMT
Keywords: Roll Tide

pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:

>Like the guy on ESPN says!!!
>Bama  COULD  GO  ALL  THE  WAY!!!!!!!!
>BAMA is playing great!!! Hope they dont choke!!!
>3 games until our National Championship!!!
>R-O-L-L T-I-D-E!!!

>(some UM fan will have some BS to say i'm sure)
  
Here's one UM fans answer : I hope the Tide and the Canes stay undefeated
until the Sugar Bowl. I want to go there and see a great game (after a
long night in the Quarter for New Years Eve). 
Best of luck in the next 3 games !!!

Justin Frederich

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Gene Jelks (bama scandal???)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:55:45 GMT

Former Alabama player Gene Jelks is quoted in the Nov 12 Atlanta
Constitution as saying that he was paid to play football at Alabama.  He
also claims, now get this, to have tapes with incriminating conversations
from various Tide boosters (shades of Eric Ramsey)!

Jelks alleges that:

His 8th grade coach, Jerry Pullen, conspired with his mother to get him to
sign with Alabama in 1985.  Pullen was given a full-time coaching position
at Alabama at the start of Jelk's college career.

Former Tide assistant coach Rocky Felker gave Jelks cash while he was in
high school in Gadsden Alabama, including $583 to buy his mother a Christmas
present and $600 for each of the five playoff games won by his Emma Samson
High team.  Felker, now coaching at Tulsa, didn't return messages left at
his home or office.

Tide coaches provided Jelks money that he and his family used to make
payments on a 1984 Ford Escort, bought during his senior year in high
school.  The car was registered to his mother, but Jelks claims it was for
his use.  Jelks says money for the payments was provided by Alabama coaches,
including a cash payment of $2100 after he enrolled.

He received through the mail cash in white envelopes, with no return
address, while at the university.

Theres a lot more in the article (both claims by Jelks and denials by the
accused).  Here is a quote from Jelks:

   "I want kids to know that Tide Pride is not all what they think it is.  They
buy and sell it.  And when they're through with you, they kick you to the
curb.  I was bought and sold.  Gene Kelks didn't have a choice.
   "At this point, I'm 26 and I still have these guys trying to bribe me to
keep me quiet.  Giving me $100 here, or helping me out here, or telling me
what a great job I'm doing.  They feed me a bunch of lies.  I'm tired of
this.  It's time to get on with my life, to take control.  Any mistakes now,
I have no one to blame."


This is all one man's allegations of course, his word against Alabama's, and
until all of the proof is out, I can't make a decision whether I believe it
or not.  I'd like to hear those tapes.  Maybe 60 Minutes will call Jelks...

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
From: goodrich@lynx.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Goodrich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Date: 13 Nov 1992 15:43:43 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: lynx.larc.nasa.gov
Keywords: 1 more week, 1 more week...

In article <1dum1kINN1m3@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
|> 
|> Va Tech 20 USM 15

I just want to add my 2$ worth. As an ardent Hokie supporter I think I can
still lay claim to a fairly unbiased opinion. On that note, here goes. I am
of course very familiar with Va. Tech's personell, and since Tech has played
So. Miss the last several seasons, I have made it a point to keep with them;
however, I've only actually seen them play once this season.  I think Tech 
matches up well against this team, and paradoxially, I think has the emotional
mind-frame to take this one. Therefore I predict something like:

Va Tech 23   So. Miss 14


|> 
|> UVa is idle.
|> 

Well, next week is the season finale. I think the days of a big emotional
advantage for the Hokies is mostly over. However, that notwithstanding, I 
think the Hokies will take this one as well. Partly I base this on my
feeling that I've observed Tech handling adversity better than UVa,
perhaps partly due to UVa's success in recent seasons and the fact that
Tech has seen some real adversity this season. However I beleive they've
established a trend of putting it together, whereas I feel UVa has
regressed. I really think turnovers will determine this one: Hokies in a
closer one than I would like:


Va Tech 17    UVa 15 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Notre Dame vs. Miami 
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:32:18 GMT

jbs@cs.arizona.edu (John B. Slankas) writes:

>In article <> C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan) writes:
>>what wimps those Irish are!  God knows they should get anything they
>>want.  I would love to see them play Miami but I know it will never
>>happen, Miami would KILL them.

>Just out of curiousity what was the last team to be Miami? (Which I believe
>happened in 1990?)

Come on now, with a name like Sullivan you Irish shouldn't be picking
on her. Sure 2 1/2 years ago the Irish beat Miami 29-20. It's funny
that a great school like ND is reduced to tauting who was last to 
beat Miami . Maybe that's why Debra chooses to support the Canes
over the 'Tighing Irish' . 


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Alabama's Newest Problems: NCAA and Gene Jelks
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:34:59 GMT

chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>> 
>> "ALABAMA'S JELKS FOLLOWS PATH OF AUBURN'S RAMSEY"
>> 
>	Why is it that when a team is doing well something like that happens
>and screw up a team for the rest of the season.  

>	First it was BJ Hobert of Washington. Now this guy from Alabama, when
>does it end???

WHOA !!! You haven't heard about the big Miami scandal yet ? 

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK)
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 02:03:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.171322.27016@lgc.com> mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>In article <6799@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>>
>>If you are going only by rating (which it seems like you are doing), you do not
>>understand football much.  Out of the four quarterbacks in question, Torretta has
>>the most inexperienced line protecting him, and the weakest running game.  This
>>means that Torretta is not only forced to throw alot, but under a great deal of
>>pressure. The fact that he is doing this well in that situation, and in crunch
>>time, he always comes through (just ask FSU) is what makes him a great
>>quarterback.
>
>Sorry.  In crunch time, some FSU joke tried to field a punt at the 1.  In
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Um, actually, it wasn't the player's fault. He was told by "Mr. Choke" Bowden
to try and make something happen. Of course, the wrong thing happened. Just
another screw up by everybody's so-called "saint". Don't go blaming players
for the fuck-ups of moronic coaches.

>crunch time at PSU, the defense came through for Miami.  Yes, Torretta is
>a good QB with no running game to protect him.  He's been good enough not
>to give away any games, like some other QBs might.
>
>I don't believe in going only by stats, or only by "wins".  I believe in
>an intelligent analysis of who has performed the best, and he hasn't.
>
>
>
>-- 
>Matthew B. Shostak              Landmark/Zycor
>mbs@zycor.lgc.com               (512) 282-6699
>"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

Kevin

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: J.M.Crant.1@nd.edu (Mike Crant)
Subject: Bama over MSU big
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:10:29 GMT

     I don't think MSU has a chance in this game.  Since losing Sleepy 
Floyd in the Florida game, the Mississippi State offense has been eratic 
at best.  Against a tough Alabama defense, I don't expect them to get many 
points.  Obviously, the highlight of Miss. State's season was the victory 
over Florida-- as evidenced by the repeated mentions of this from the 
MSU woofers.  In hindsight, I don't think Florida is as bad as they 
looked against Miss. State that Thursday evening, and Miss. State doesn't 
appear to be as good as they were that night.  MSU should be pleased that 
the Florida game was early in the season; if it were this week, I suspect 
the result would be quite different.  Alabama, on the other hand, seems to 
be getting better and better.  I predict Alabama 28, MSU 13.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: John Cooper & Bowl Bound
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:41:35 GMT

  Matt Shostak writes:

>ARIZONA STATE (1986) STUNS BAMA (1979)

[...]

>John Cooper gave credit to the Tide's defense, and his quarterback.
>"Their defense is very hard to score against, and they played well enough
>to win.  We were fortunate to get some breaks, and I credit (quarterback)
>Jeff (Van Raaphorst) with keeping the offense under control and not
>committing any costly turnovers.  We're just happy to get out of here
>with a win."

     First off, I want to thank Matt for doing this for r.s.f.c. It's
interesting, it's funny, and I look forward to seeing what happens next.
     But I do need to point out one deficiency in the otherwise excellent game 
summaries: Matt just doesn't have John Cooper's post-game speaking style down
pat yet.
     It's not bad, mind you -- the "We're just happy..." comment reflects
Cooper's usual level of confidence in his teams. But for a truly accurate 
simulation of the Cooper post-game remarks, Matt needs to throw in something 
gratuitously stupid, like "We didn't play too bad for a bunch of slow, white 
guys", or "Well, I take full responsibility for the failure of that fake field 
goal attempt, but the fact is that my special teams coach called the play, so 
go talk to him" (of course, a John Cooper team wouldn't do anything as exciting
as call for a fake field goal -- I just used that as an example).
     Again, great job, Matt. Just keep those guidelines in mind and you'll have
a more accurate write-up. Keep gaming!

                                       Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat)
Subject: Re: Udub??  What is a "udub"???
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:40:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.071608.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>
>> BTW is this the reason Arizona kicked Udubs ASS this weekend? UW is the best
>                                        ^^^^^
>Ok, we learned what a "t-sip" was a few months ago, what the heck does
>"udub" mean??  I know it is a some sort of Washington put-down, but
>where/how did it originate?
>David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 


Udub?  dub is supposed to be short for W 'doubleyew'  It's on a shirt.
Probably made up by the same people who told the stupid sorority girls that
white socks and brown loafers were stylish.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@cadzook.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Kevin.Dailey)
Subject: Re: SEC Preview (November 14)
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:47:42 GMT

: FLORIDA (6-2) hosts SOUTH CAROLINA (4-5):
: Well, USC continues to roll after the "Mutiny in Columbia."  If the
: Cocks were hosting this one, it'd be a tough one to pick.  Reality check 
: for Taneyhill & Co.  Florida 31-21.
: Mark Mitchell's pick: Florida 28-14
: Last meeting: (1964)
: Series record: Florida leads 6-3-3
: 

	If the Gamecocks can find a way to pressure Fla's QB w/o giving up
	the big play it could be a close game and set up a possible upset.
        Otherwise, Fla. will pick the Gamecocks apart for big yardage and big
	scores passing!

	Go Gamecocks!


--
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 Phone: 803-791-6432 | 3325 Platt Springs Road, West Columbia, SC 29170
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK)
Subject: Re: UW-Arizona Game II
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:40:35 GMT

In article <6847@news.duke.edu> yang@math.duke.edu (Joe Yang) writes:
>Here is the second mail my friend sent me:
>
>----------------------------
>
>~

Well, I for one would have to agree with you sir. These two letters were both
intrigueing. Their message was not boistrous, but subtle and insightfull. I
look forward to seeing more posts of your friends letters!

:)

Kevin