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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 12:37:48 PST
From: <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: Ladies Single Speed

I'm posting this for a friend, who is looking for a ladies, single speed, adult
bicycle.  If you have one just collecting dust, send me E-mail along with a
price!
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: MTB Recommendations
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:53:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx7zxt.8o6
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>First, what are your opinions on '92 Shimano LX vs. DX?

The new LX is pretty good stuff as far as function goes but I prefer thumb
shifters over rapidfire and dislike painted components because they scratch
so easily.  I'd go with DX.

>Second, could you recommend some MTBs in the $600 range?

I think that Bridgestones offer the most value for your $$$$.  They are
generally lighter and have a better component selection than other bikes in
their price range.  No matter what kind you buy you should get out NOW and
buy a 92 becasue they're going for firesale prices.  Try to find a Bridgestone
MB-3 which normally sells for $750.  You might get a really good price on a 92.
No matter what recommendations you get the main thing is to get out and
ride the bikes.  Only you can decide in the end.

>Finally, any comments on the Nashbar 7000X MTB?  This bike is currently
>on sale for $599.00.  It has an aluminum frame, CRO MO fork, Deore LX
>groupo, Vetta Lite saddle, and SPD clipless pedals.

Well it's ugly....I don't think it's that great for the price and it's better
to buy from a bike shop that can take care of any problems you might have.
Most dealers wouldn't be too happy to work on a mail-order bike and would
charge you alot for service whereas if you bought the bike from them they
probably offer a 30-day tuneup and warranty service.  If you have a good
dealer nearby it's a good idea to cultivate them.  It can come in very handy.
-Terry
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From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Re: Mountain bikes in $1500-$2700 range >opinions
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:56:21 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <92Nov6.134437edt.748@smoke.cs.toronto.edu> javier@cs.toronto.edu (Javier Pinto) writes:
>yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>
>>Also, to the intelligent bike thief (if there is such an animal) the
>>brand new $3000 bike is more attractive than the $700 bike or the $100
>>klunker.
>
>I would not leave my $800 bike for thieves to come and take it (that's why
>I ride my $40 clunker around town), I use my good bike only for training
>and racing. 
>
>>What is it that you see in this theoretical $3000 bike?  Is it beauty?
>>Ease of use? Quality?  Speed?  
>
>All of the above and more! 
>
>>If it is the latter, then I challenge you to a race with my 
>>bike  (the winner gets both bikes :-)) 
>
>Sure, we can go for a century any day you want (even with snow, not in a
>blizzard). The trouble is... I don't want your clunker! I have my own.
>
>>If you must know, I ride a $100 klunker.
>
>Hey, my clunker was worth all of CAN$75 when new! how can you justify
>spending the equivalent to $CAN 125 (plus taxes) in a bike? Is it beauty? 
>Ease of use? Quality?  Speed?   
>
I see that I neglected to fully explain what I meant by $100 clunker 
(I like your spelling better than mine.).
What I meant was that my clunker was worth $100 US dollars when it was
brand spanking new.  Now, it is probably worth about 10 US cents. 

>Tell ya something, I challenge you to a race with my clunker (the loser
>gets both clunkers :-))  
>
>Javier.
You have yourself a deal.  But who can we get to sponsor the race?
Of course, there will have to be the proper security personnel around
to guard our clunkers before, during, and after the race.
I have read about a record number of bike-jacking incidents, recently.:-)
I heard that the bike-jackers are looking for clunkers (they call them
antiques.)

-- 
 Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
 From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
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From: newman@otto.ycc.yale.edu (Andrew Newman)
Subject: Shimano 7spd vs. 8 spd
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: rec
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:10:45 GMT

Ok,

Shimano now sells 7 and 8 speed cassettes.  I own a '92 mountain bike
equipped with XT components (including Rapidfire Plus) and a 7 speed
cassette.  My understanding is that:

	a) 7 and 8 speed cassettes are not mechanically interchangeable
	on the same freehub.

	b) Current Rapidfire(tm) shifters only have enough 'clicks' to
	work with 7 speed cassettes.

What is Shimano's current apparent marketing strategy?  (All cynicism
aside...really!)  Does the '93 mountain bike component line have any 8
speed options?  For that matter, can you still get 7 speed road
components?  My experience with Shimano tells me that shortly after a
component series is no longer manufactured, the spare parts become
scarce.  If Shimano intends to sell 8 speed mountain groups in the near
term and phase out 7 speed, I have a feeling that in 3 or 4 years I'll
be up dung creek when I go shopping for a replacement cassette.  (Yes,
I know, I could by one now and put it away for this eventuality).  Does
Shimano really expect me to be happy tossing a good freehub, shifter
set and (aargh STI...) brake handle pair just because a 20 dollar
cassette wore out?  What to do what to do...



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*  |       |    |  |  *                 -Andrew Newman                        *
*  |==|    |    |==/  *                  C&IS Systems Technology & Planning   *
*     |    |    |     *                  Yale University                      *
*  \===    |    |     *                  (newman-andy@yale.edu)               *
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From: mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun ))
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: floor pumps, trip computers
Keywords: floor pump, trip computer
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:14:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Nov6.221428.14184
Distribution: na
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas

dje@scs.carleton.ca (Danny Epstein) writes:

> [....]                                  I'm looking for a pump which
>is durable and which handles presta and schraeder valves, preferably
>without an adaptor.  Pumps I'm considering so far are the Zefal Double
>Shot, the Zefal Husky, and the Park TP-1.


I have a Zefal Double Shot floor pump.  I cut off the chuck after 5 or
6 months, and replaced it with a Silca brass chuck that contains a
replaceable rubber washer.  This only works with presta valves, but it
is a first rate, extremely durable combination!               

I bought the brass Silca chuck for about US$6 and went to the auto parts
store and bought a US$0.10 hose clamp to keep it on.  I've worn out one
rubber washer in over a year, and I bought a new one from Nashbar for 
about US$1.29.  
-- 
Gregg Mack    512-891-8704  ---------- __o       __o       __o       __o
gmack@paceline.sps.mot.com  -------- _`\<,_    _`\<,_    _`\<,_    _`\<,_
Motorola RISC uProcessors   ------- (*)/ (*)  (*)/ (*)  (*)/ (*)  (*)/ (*)
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From: jwgst2+@pitt.edu (James W Gourgoutis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: SPDs and "regular" shoes
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:10:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov12.171420.2377@bmerh85.bnr.ca> paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter) writes:
>I had seen someone with attachments that clip into SPDs that essentially
>put a platform on the pedal so that they could be used with regular (ie
>running) shoes and the like.  Not having SPDs at the time I thought "cool"
>
>Does anyone know of such a product? Where can I get them and at what cost?
>
>Thanks....Stu

	Look in the lastest issue of Bicycle Guide...page 70.
There is a product called the _Instep_SPD_ by Winwood Technologies.
They cost about $25 per pair.  Address is:
			Winwood Technologies
			685 Emerson Street
			Denver CO  80218
		Phone #:  800-248-5040

	Hope this helps!
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Mechanical Engineering                                O   
University of Pittsburgh                           _ /__,     
e-mail me at:  JWGST2@unixd.cis.pitt.edu          (_) /(_) 
	       or JWGST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Thanks!           			   "Why am I so late?  It took me 
					    25 minutes to decide which bike
					    to ride!" 
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From: jbr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jarryl B. Ritchie)
Subject: Oakley Accessories
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:08:18 GMT

I have a set of orange earpieces and a matching orange nosepiece for Oakley
glasses.  I am asking $9 plus shipping for the set.  I bought them in an
attempt to get my Oakleys to fit my girlfriend, but she found the mombos and
fell in love.  The pieces have not been used, they were mounted on my oakleys
once.  The retail for about $20-22, so if your are in the market this is a 
deal.

Jay Ritchie
jbr1@ra.msstate.edu

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From: cs13517@gaia.ecs.csus.edu ()
Subject: Mountain bike frame for sale
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:15:02 GMT

Mountain bike for sale:

Lemond Frame with MAX OR tubing.

Red, 19 1/2"

Frame and fork for $800

This frame was won by John McKinley during the Nor-Cal district Crit
championships and has never been built up.  If I remember correctly,
its value was advertised at around $1100.

Respond either to this account or by phone to John at (916)944-7138

Kevin Metcalfe
cs13517@athena.ecs.csus.edU
From: dhm1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DANIEL HILL MCCAULEY)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Saddles
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:03:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov12.144554.27029@athena.mit.edu>, aviator@athena.mit.edu (Joak
im Karlsson) writes:
>I have a Specialized Rockhopper mountain bike with a Specialized
>saddle on it, that I'm not too happy with.  I'm also thinking about
>buying a Specialized Allez road bike in a few months, which also
>comes with a Specialized saddle, which I'd rather avoid.  So, I'm
>looking for recommendations for saddles, with comfort being the
>primer criterion, and weight a secondary one.  The ones I'm considering
>are:
>
>   Selle Italia Turbomatic
>   Selle Italia Titanium Flite
>   Waveflo
>
>Any comments on these?  Any others I should look at.  I do want a
>fairly narrow saddle.
>
>Thanks...Joakim
>--
>Joakim Karlsson            | aviator@athena.mit.edu
>Flying Fanatic in Training | Air: PP-ASEL  CAP: Freedom 107 Mobile  FCC: N1JHW
>                 "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
>                And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings"
>


    I purchased a Selle Titanium Flite saddle last summer and I think it was
    the best choice I ever made in an upgrade for my bike.  I have never felt
    a saddle as comfortable as this in my entire 8 years of cycling!  I would
    definately recommend it.  And besides being comfortable it looks sleak and
    weighs very little.  My only complaint for this saddle is that I wish I
    had two of them, one for my road bike and one for my track bike!


        Happy Buyings!!!


        -Dan McCauley (DHM1@ns2.cc.lehigh.edu)

        
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*Dan McCauley       (Lair of Sam, Lisa, Spot, Spot II, and Victoria)
*                              ...with carcasses of dead smelly vermin!
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From: raster@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Radek Aster)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: US parts manufacturers
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:32:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov11.193220.9550
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

Could someone post a list of all US bicycle parts manufacturers. This should
include frame makers.

I will summarize.

Radek
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From: mpb@nomad.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Batchelder)
Subject: ATB's in $1500-$2700 range < ACTUAL opinion
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:53:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.164831.980@schbbs.mot.com>, A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke) writes:
|> I'm planning to buy a new mtb bike and it has been awhile since
|> I purchased my Ritchey in 1987. I haven't decided if I will buy
|> another Ritchey or not, so I'm open to any and all suggestions
|> from anyone who's recently purchased a bike or spent some time
|> riding one in this price range, $1500-$2700.
|> 
|> Thanks in advance,
|> Michael

Here's an actual opinion/answer to your post; I've only seen one
other (William Lloyd), amid the debate over $$$...  William mentioned
aluminum and titanium models; here's my plug for good ol' cro-mo steel.
If you like the way steel feels, I think the best steel frame I've
ever seen comes from a little company (doesn't this sound cute...)
in Newhall, CA, called Curtlo--a semi-one-man outfit.  One guy builds
the frames, Doug Curtis, out of a barn in the hills, and one guy does
the painting--some of the most stunning jobs I've ever seen.  Frames
aren't ridiculously light, but you can custom-spec the tubing and the
mesurements.   If you want suspension (for that $$ range, I assume you do)
then you'll catch up weightwise with the Al and Ti frames.  Curtlo's
can be made w/ Action-Tec suspension systems, the kind Cannondale uses.
The shock absorber is at the bottom of the head tube, covered w/ a
rubber boot.  Uses regular forks, which IMHO is a great advantage over
shock-forks where each blade can move independently.  Weighs less than
a pound extra, so saves much weight.  Action-Tec can't be installed on
just any frame-the frame has to have a certain head tube lenght and 
accompanying geometry.  I've got several friends who ride/race on/for
Curtlo w/ Action-Tec: they're amazing...  Unless you live in S.Cal,
you probably won't see or get to ride one, but if you like steel frames,
get some info on them (you can email me)

Michael Batchelder
mpb@gravi.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca (Scott Schelter u)
Subject: A 'Dave Harvey' Type ride for Scotty Le Dog
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:24:17 GMT

     You wouldn't believe the ride home that I had last night. At about
6:20 pm (dark) on a dark and stormy night. It had rained all day up
here. The park that I ride through has a creek running through the 
middle of it, with a bridge to go across. The creek is in a sort of   
hollow, a valley. I was flying down the hill, at about 40 km/h,
when I noticed that the volume of rain had flooded the area around
the creek. It was funny, because the bridge was totally surrounded
on all sides by water. Anyway, I put the brakes on hard, and put my
weight way back over the saddle. 

     It was no use. The brake pads were wet, and I had forgotten that
I was on my beater bike. There was no stopping. I changed my mind 
and started pedalling hard. The water was about a foot deep. It was
really fun riding through it, because I knew that I had dry clothes about eight minutes farther ahead. Then the weirdest bike accident I've ever heard
of happened to me. The 'lake' had a current, just like the creek. From
out of the forest beside the gravel path a fair sized piece of 
driftwood floated out in front of me. I had no time to react
I endoed!, flat into the water. Needless to say, I got soaked, and
my jeans stuck to me. EWWWWWWW :-(

      But this wasn't the end. No, my ride from hell was doomed to
continue. Igot back up, and started my ride home. I rode out of the 
park, and started riding on the sidewalk because my stiff jeans had
slowed my pace to a crawl. Then it happened. I was approaching an
intersection. I was on a busy road, and the intersection was with
a *small* street which linked to the right side of the main road only
As I rode through the intersection, and new looking toyota celica
screeched through the intersection right beside me. I could hear
as mt handlebars scratched away at the finish, all the way down the
side of his car. He had the music pretty loud, though, so I don't think 
he could hear it. Anyways, I shook a fist at him as he sped away
after cutting me of, honking his horn tauntingly. A smile palyed
wide across my face. Justice would be served when he saw that mark
on his car. Fortuneatly, the rest of my ride home was uneventful.

       Just a few side notes: Although I was not unhappy about the
damage to the car, it was an accident. I DID NOT DO IT ON PURPOSE!
It was the driver who cut me off that was responsible for this. As
he honked when riding away, I can only assume that he got some sort of
perverse satisfaction for cutting me off.
       I did have a good, halogen lighting system in use. There was
no way he could have missed seeing me, even in the rain, if he
was driving responsibly.
       When I was on the sidewalk, I wasn't going much faster
than any pedestrian. I was on it for my safety.
From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: comments on Cycle Sport in Cambridge, MA
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:20:02
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: ilh@lcs.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: winnie-the-pooh.ai.mit.edu

Anybody have any comments on Cycle Sport in Cambridge, MA (1771 Mass
Ave).  I'm wondering if they're service is good.  Thanks!
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                                Lee Hetherington
                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 05:41:19 -0500 
From: "Robert J. Havey" <havey+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Oakly shades




i'm looking at buying some oakly shades myself.  what do people think about
the 'heater' model?  i like how they seem to cover the full field of vision.
i recently broke my beloved gargoyles (tm) between the hinge and the lens and
i am in desperate need of a replacement.  since gargoyles (tm) lack
interchangeable lenses i thought i'd check out the oakleys (getting dark so
early these days...)  how are oakleys?  are they nice and durable?  is there
a way i can get a better price for them ($135 for frame w/ mirrored positive
red lenses + $30 for clear lenses)?  i had a problem with my gargoyles fogging
and and with my sweat dripping inside the glasses--do oakleys have this
problem?  i was thinking about bolle' but heard that the brow pad can actually
make things worse.  how are the shades sold under the 'performance' name?


thanks,

bob
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From: dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey)
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Stands His Ground!
Organization: Harvey Consulting
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:09:35 GMT

tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:

>Yo, dave, good to have you back. I thought you gave up after Greg

Thank you. I want you to know you can drink out of my water bottle
any time. Just as long as I don't have to wait up for you to hand it
across.

>"Quitter" Lemond's truly abysmal performances in the Tours of France and
>Britain.

Look, I know we're friends, but there are some things you just don't say.
So try to cool it. Okay, buddy?

    - Dave
From: cs92mjd@cen.ex.ac.uk (M.J.Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: ATB's in $1500-$2700 range < ACTUAL opinion
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:37:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

In article <1992Nov9.225343.4958@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> mpb@nomad.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Batchelder) writes:

>   then you'll catch up weightwise with the Al and Ti frames.  Curtlo's
>   can be made w/ Action-Tec suspension systems, the kind Cannondale uses.

I'm sure it wasn't deliberate, but you seem to be implying that Cannondale
suspension forks are made by Action-Tec. Actually, they ain't. They look 
similar, and operate along the same lines, but are not the same product.

Anyway, expensive bikes...for this money, you'd be silly to buy anything off
the shelf. So it probably comes down to...

A) A real nice production frameset with your choice of components. We'd most
likely be talking titanium here. Certain shops spring to mind here...Cambria
Bike Outfitters run what amounts to a bespoke bike assembly service. They 
stock loads of frames, and keep a test fleet that can be test ridden off road.

B) A custom frameset, most likely in steel (although Doug Bradbury'll do you
a custom sized Manitou in Easton ProGram). For some reason, you seem to have
had replies from people in the States each giving one "obscure" frame
builder that no-one else over there seems to have heard from. In the UK, we
hear about nothing else but American custom/small-scale production frames.
Anyway, off the top of my head, a list of frames you might consider in 
category A or B...


Merlin Titanium - nicest Ti frame I've ever seen
Fat Chance Yo Eddy Team - out of Boston, True Temper, great handling
Fat Chance Titanium - not seen one of these in the flesh yet, but looks cool
Boulder - any of three(?) full suspension framesets
Mountain Goat - great paint jobs
Ibis - Total craftsmanship, and light
Mountain Cycle San Andreas - wildest FS bike out. Possibly out of even your
 	price range, though.
Trimble inverted-4 - Wacky carbon monococque, draws attention
Manitou - the original rigid frame one handles like a dream
Curtlo - somewhat of a specialist in very big or small bikes. Full custom
	sizing for a perfect fit.

..and many others. Have a gander (translation: look) at either the CBO or
Bike-Pro adverts for more. Bike-Pro will fax you a comlplete frame price
list (running to three sheets of A4) if you ask them nicely.

Of course, if you can't decide what to buy, just give me the money ;-)

Mikey D
 
--




"Ride and find where all the freedom has gone..."

Michael J. Davis          |   cs92mjd@ac.uk.ex.cen
Dept of Computer Science  |   cs92mjd@cen.ex.uk.ac
University of Exeter      |
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From: feng@cs.uiuc.edu (Wuchun Feng)
Subject: Re: floor pumps, trip computers
Keywords: floor pump, trip computer
Reply-To: Wuchun Feng <feng@cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:26:17 GMT

In case it wasn't obvious ... in the floor pump ratings, the higher the
number the better.

-Wu
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