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From: ostrouch@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com
Subject: *Mongoose mountain bikes 4 sale*
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:00:03 GMT

********Mongoose mountain bikes for sale***********

Im posting this for my sister in law, who has no net access:

She has two Mongoose mountain bikes, she bought for her kids, living in the city
dont use much.  So she wants to sell them, one's a 24" an the other is a 20"
she paid approx $275.00 each and will let go for $100.00 each.
A photo and or model no.s could be provided to anyone interested.

Please rely by e-mail as i dont get in this posting often:
Mike Ostrouch
raymond N.H.
From: ajc4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY JAMES CACIOLO)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: CAMPAGNOLO 50TH ANNIVERSARY GROUPPO
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:48:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Serial number #1865

Still new in originaly 50th aniv. carrying case.

This beatiful limited edition set contains engraved SR parts with Tullio
Campagnolo's signature and various other unique items.

This is certainly a collectors item.

E-Mail me with serious offers or questions.


Tony Caciolo
From: tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Sell - Bike mts for Yakima Rack
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:13:01 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.


                        FOR SALE

    2 sets of mts for Yakima Rack  (model 2A)
    (front fork to rack type mt.)
    Used only once (perfect conditon)
    $50 per set or $95 for both  ($70 retail)

    Contact  Terry Powell
             tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com
             1-503-627-2623   Days
             1-503-359-4153   Evenings

    I will pay shipping

-- 

Terry Powell       Email - Terry.K.Powell@tek.com       Portland,Or

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc
From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Scott bought Schwinn
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:45:50 GMT

king@reasoning.com (Dick King) writes:
>They bought the name; they plan to continue to use it, and to continue to make
>bicycles*.
>I just heard this on NPR.
>-dk
>* actually, to continue to market a line of Japanese bicycles

Actually the holding company that owns Scott bought Schwinn.  Apparently
the Paramount facility is for sale seperately, I heard the asking price is
$100,000 but don't know if it's true.
-Terry
-- 
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: Exorbitant Shipping Costs??!
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:03:24 GMT

In article <1jm2b7INNitr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> au109@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig Williams) writes:
>
>Note that the original message said it was sent COD.  Although I've
>never used COD, I believe that the shipping company adds a hefty
>service fee for the use of COD deliveries.  Anyone know what
>COD charges are?  Are they fixed, based on insured value, or
>something else?
>
>Craig Williams

I beleive UPS adds about $2.00 for C.O.D.  The problem could be that the guy
went to a shipping place (Mail Boxes Etc. or the like) they add for the
conveniece of being local and not having to go to UPS.  Also if they packed the
box for him, they charge for the materials as well.  Basically the seller might
have just been lazy and dropped the stuff at a shipper and said "pack it up
for me and send it".  Of course he might have been concerned about the price 
before he did it.  I once paid $8 (C.O.D.)  in packing charges for an HP 
calculator because the the guy dropped it of at a shipping place.  For a couple
of bucks I wasn't going to make a fuss, but I wasn't happy.  For this much $$$
I would refuse delivery.

Ron




-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: oplascencia@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: New XT's for sale
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:27:02 PST

I have a set of XT rear and front brakes for sale.
They are the new low profile design; new, never used, in the box 
40.00 dollars for both pairs plus shipping

E-mail if interested.
thanks
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng)
Subject: Re: Road Cranks with a Granny Gear
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:37:15 GMT


The Mavic 631 crankset is expensive (cheaper than Record) but it comes
in 165 and takes a granny with a special adapter (631-008). You will
have to order the adapter through your local bike shop but the crank
itself is available by mail order through several companies. Excel is
the cheapest though I don't know who stocks a 165mm. Very pretty
crank. Prettier than the Record IMHO.

--

Spencer Cheng     scheng@BNR.CA  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada  613-763-4046
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Subject: Re: _Bicycling_ Issue Wanted
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:56:07 GMT

In article <SCHENG.93Jan27084633@bcarh886.bnr.ca> scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.220342.4752@novell.com> chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler) writes:
>
>   OK, no flames please...
>
>   Does anyone have a copy of the latest issue of _Bicycling + Mt Bike_
>   that they'd be willing to part with?  I'm looking for the recent
>   issue that contains the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road review (the one
>   w/all the wizz-bang, hi-end parts).  I ask because no-one around
>   here sells the _+ Mt Bike_ edition.
>
>No derisive remarks please...
>
>I have a copy... No I don't subscribe...

Someone is sending me a copy of the article.  Thanks to all who replied.

BTW, does anyone else feel that BICYCLE GUIDE has "lost it" since they've
moved the editorial offices to Southern California.  In the latest issue,
most of the articles are only two pages long (counting photos).  The
"$700 Suspension Bike Shootout" is an obvious exception, but the article
about the border cops who patrol on mountain bikes hardly warranted three
pages.

>Spencer Cheng     scheng@BNR.CA  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada  613-763-4046


--
Mark Chandler              Novell, Inc.         510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Is there a list of '93 bikes?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:03:20 GMT

paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter) writes:
>|> 	I'm not real familiar with this news group.  Does a list exist that
>|> lists all '93 bikes, their prices, and specs?  I'm asking for a friend.  If
>|> you can send me this list, mail me.  Thanks in advance for any help.
>Just pick up this month's issue of Bicycling magazine.  It is there 
>annual buyer's guide issue.  There are over a 1000 bikes listed with 
>specs on price, components, frame material, (and something else that 
>I forget).  It includes 12 categories of bikes (ie mountain-rigid, 
>mountain-front suspension, road, touring etc).
>It is well worth a read.

Keep in mind that the prices listed here are usually not very accurate since
Bicycling probably made this list 3 months ago.  Bicycle Guide also has an
annual Bike Guide which is much more thorough and informative.  Since they
have new ownership I don't know if there will be one for 93 though.
-Terry
-- 
-Terry
From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Yakima racks on a Sable wagon
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:48:26 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

I just *know* this has been covered thoroughly before, but it's not in the
FAQ and I don't remember the answers, so here goes:

We just bought a Mercury Sable station wagon (same as Ford Taurus) and I
have Yakima racks that fit on a Volvo.  I already had the "aero" towers,
which are needed for the Sable, and I got the clips that Yakima recommends
for the Sable.  I've tried mounting the racks on the Sable and they go just
fine.

So what's my problem?  Well, the mounting clips smush the rubber rain
gutters, and the instructions have a lot of worrisome stuff about "fine
tuning the placement of the clips to prevent leaks."  Is this really a
problem, or should I quit worrying?  If it really is a problem, what's the
solution?

Now, the wagon has integral roof racks.  It looks like it wouldn't be hard
to design a clamp that would let me mount my bike carriers on the integral
racks, and forget about the Yakima towers.  My wife thinks she's seen an ad
for such a product in the back pages of Bicycling, but I can't find it in
any of the issues I have lying around (no, I don't keep all my issues of
Bicycling and put them in binders...).  Does anyone have any info on this
side of the question?

All answers most gratefully received, and I'll summarize.

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Hey!
From: oliver@dougfir.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Oliver Sharp)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Seeking a road bike, ~50cm
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:37:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: dougfir.cs.berkeley.edu

I'm planning to buy a road bike for my wife, and was wondering if anyone
is looking to sell one.  My frame (52 cm) is a little too big,
so something in the neighborhood of 50cm should be just right.  It
doesn't need to be top of the line, but I want to get something decent;
105 components would be perfect (I've been looking at bikes like the
Trek 1000 series).  Either touring or racing would be ok, though it
would probably be best if the handling isn't outrageously agressive.

Thanks,
- Oliver

P.S.  I limited distribution to the Bay Area, as I'd like to see the bike
before shelling out cash for it; the news software seems determined to
spread the word regardless of such impediments, so I apologize if you
are reading this in Switzerland.
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: _Bicycling_ Issue Wanted
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:03:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

OK, no flames please...

Does anyone have a copy of the latest issue of _Bicycling + Mt Bike_
that they'd be willing to part with?  I'm looking for the recent
issue that contains the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road review (the one
w/all the wizz-bang, hi-end parts).  I ask because no-one around
here sells the _+ Mt Bike_ edition.


--
Mark Chandler              Novell, Inc.         510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
From: o.zechlin@link-njd.nbg.sub.org (Oliver Zechlin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: ?: U-lock & Insurance (Nashbar/Perform.)
Reply-To: o.zechlin@link-njd.nbg.sub.org
Date: 19 Jan 93 20:47:00 MET
Distribution: world
Organization: Mailboxsystem LINK-NJD, FRG
X-Version: ZerUU V6.43a

I saw about two years ago in a copy of NASHBAR/PERFORMANCE mail-order-catalog
their brand u-locks w/ a one-year theft-insurance, up to $1000 worldwide.

Due to the fact that I don't have a newer issue (it seems they don't send
their catalogues to Germany) I would like to know if they still sell this
combination, since I am touring the States for almost 4 months and still
do need a lock and insurance.

Any comments, experiences?

And by the way, how much is a MARIN Eldridge Grade over there?

Oliver


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell)
Subject: Re: Bike-only Households
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: inet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:27:20 GMT

In article <1jv1u4INNpu6@sauna.cs.hut.fi> ovr@snakemail.hut.fi (Otto-Ville Ronkainen) writes:
>In article <1jrl9vINNc1f@uwm.edu> thelma@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Thelma Lubkin) writes:
>>     Our most serious problem is parking: we won't take a bicycle unless
>>  there's a reasonably safe place to park it, which means that we walk to
>>  many events like concerts.
>
>With a reasonably ugly and unfashionable bike theft shouldn't be a problem.
>(Like a touring bike with a dull black frame.) Besides, u-locks are rare
>around here so that >90% of all bikes are easier to steal than mine.
>
>The problem for me with, say, concerts is clothing. I just don't fancy
>riding in a dress suit.

That's what the different designs of rack packs and panniers are for.
You carry the suit with you and change in a restroom when you get there.

Flip


-- 
         __@    Phillip "Flip" Russell  | Purdue University      __@
  _ -_,_-\<,_   flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu | West Lafayette, IN  _ -\<,_
 (_)/---|/-(_)           The important things...             (_)|/-(_)
                        My bikes and my Macintosh
From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:14:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Re:  Commuting! (was Punishment for the Driver!)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc

/ hpcc01:rec.bicycles.misc / flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) / 10:14 pm  Jan 22, 1993 /
>
>parts so fast. Try riding everyday in all kinds of weather and you'll
>see some heavy wear that the joy-riders will never see.

I'll say!  I just started commuting last October (had been riding circa 150
miles per week) and have been riding about 250 miles per week in pretty
rainy/grungy weather.  I still have my pickup truck (no insight on psycho
P/U drivers, tho), but I'll only use it for errands and such.  Even so, my
parts bill is approaching my (former) gasoline bill.

At least I now found where to get cogs and how to decrud my freewheel.

Pete Brooks
>
From: arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Colorado Cyclist has a Showroom
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:40:45 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hplsduc.col.hp.com


This is primarily for Colorado locals. I saw the posting asking for info on 
the new Colorado Cyclist. They've opened a real 2000 sq. ft retail store.
Everything in the catalog plus more stuff is on display in the store. They
are open 6 days a week 10-6, 10-5 on Saturdays. They are located on Bijou,
near Target on South Academy Blvd. Phone 719-591-4045. The toll free
number, 1-800-668-8600 is the same as the old number.

                                                      Arnie


-- 
Arnie Berger
arnie@col.hp.com
Telnet 719-590-5642
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: 97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (Patrick D. Walters)
Subject: Re: USCF agreement with UNITED
Organization: SYSTEMS & COMPUTING
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:26:04 PST

In article <1993Jan27.210436.21301@news.columbia.edu>
djb5@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David J Balducci) writes:
 
>I was looking through Cycle USA and I noticed the USCF has an agreement with
>United airline to give USCF members special airfares and special bike
>arrangements.  Has anyone used this?  What are special bike arrangements?
>Does that mean free bike passes or a discount?  If a discount how much?  I
>called the USCF number on the back of my license and the person who answered
>did not have much information.  She said the USCF had just signed a new
>agreement with United and she did not have a copy of the new agreement.
>
I was going to book a flight with that program once. It was good if you were
going to race and I believe you got a discount on flights and I know that
if your ticket was >$300 you got to take your bike for free.
 
--
Patrick David Walters                     President WSU Cycling Club
97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu                Race Dircetor WSU Stage Race
Undergrad Soc Minor in Fren and Bus         Send Mail for more info on
Washington State University   Pullman, WA   either !
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: Crazy and incompetent drivers. (Was: Punishment for the Driver!)
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.soc
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:55:08 GMT

[Followups have been redirected to rec.bicycle.soc I hope...]

> In article <1jmi26INNt1a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  
(Kip Ingram) writes:
[Kip argues for bicycle lanes because he is "afraid" of being hit from  
behind. Thus exhibiting classic cyclist inferiority complex.]

It seems the place where Linda Scates committed this murder had a pretty  
good bike lane. I lump this in the same category as people walking into  
consumer electronics stores, pulling out semi-automatic weapons and blowing  
away a bunch of customers. Yeah, it happens, but I don't plan my life around  
it.

This woman shouldn't have had a license to drive in the first place. I am  
pleased to see that the legal authorities are pursuing this as a murder  
case. Past cases in the Bay Area have resulted in light penalties for  
drivers murdering/maiming bicyclists. (The guy who ran over Mark Anolick and  
the woman who ran down four cyclists while fishing for a cassette come to  
mind.) I'm open to suggestions on what the cycling community can do about  
this.
--
Zalman Stern		   zalman@adobe.com		    (415) 962 3824
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
 "...And I didn't even need pants!!"--Dilbert on The Net (by Scott Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: RHORER@ukcc.uky.edu (Marc A. Rhorer)
Subject: Jersey search
Organization: The University of Kentucky
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 05:00:17 GMT

Does anyone know where I can order jerseys with a zipper that goes
completely down the front?   If so, email with ordering information
would be greatly appreciated!   Thanks,
 
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From: sulli_t@pyramid.unr.edu (Tim Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Hit and run accident
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:06:03 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <1993Jan18.112229.6173@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> les@cs.stanford.edu writes:
>
>Today's report is that the hit-and-run driver had her license
>suspended after deliberately running down three people near Antioch,
>California in 1987, but subsequently got it back.
>
	Obviously a graduate of the Priscilla Ford School
	of driving, Reno Division.

	Fortunately for Reno pedestrians and cyclists, Ms.
	Ford is still sitting in the state prison.
From: keith@cv.hp.com (Keith Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: ATTN Commuter's - do you feel like a piece of fiction ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:19:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]

Nick Wilde (wilde@cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
: Did you know all of us bicycle commuters in the U.S. don't exist,
: at least according to one executive of a major bicycle manufacturer?
: 
: In an article in the Wall Street Journal today (1/25), the US marketing
: director of Bridgestone Bicycle, Grant Peterson, is quoted as
: calling the US bicycle commuter "fictional". According the WSJ, Mr
: Peterson attributes this to "long distances, cheap gasoline, few bike
: lanes, and fewer bike lockers or showers at work discouraging bicycle
: commuting."
: ...
: The article was originally about how many bike manufacturers are
: bringing out specialized "commuter models" hoping to lure the
: urban commuter crowd onto two wheels. Of the manufacturers mentioned
: were:
: ...

Consider the context (WSJ). I'd bet what he meant was that the
US bicycle commuter market is very small. Of course my speculation
on hearsay of a possibly munged quote from a newspaper is very shaky.
:-)

Keith M. Taylor          keith@cv.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard
Corvallis, Oregon
From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Life Flite Episode
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:43:54 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.bicycles.misc, todd@cleo.abt.com (Todd Nix) writes:
 left, we found his Oakleys on the ground. They had come apart at the temples
 but the lenses were still intact. His bike look pretty new. M2 FS with the
 new LX rapidfire-plus. Poor riding technique and lack of experience could

Which Oakley lenses?   How much do you want for the shock or the LX
group?
From: tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: ATTN Commuter's - do you feel like a piece of fiction ?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 07:13:22 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <wilde-250193223947@sunset.cs.colorado.edu> wilde@cs.colorado.edu (Nick Wilde) writes:
)Did you know all of us bicycle commuters in the U.S. don't exist,
)at least according to one executive of a major bicycle manufacturer?
)
)In an article in the Wall Street Journal today (1/25), the US marketing
)director of Bridgestone Bicycle, Grant Peterson, is quoted as
)calling the US bicycle commuter "fictional". According the WSJ, Mr
)Peterson attributes this to "long distances, cheap gasoline, few bike
)lanes, and fewer bike lockers or showers at work discouraging bicycle
)commuting."
)
)Discouraging it, yes, but eradicating it altogther ? Judging from 
)some of the posts around here, I'd hardly think so. I know I don't
)feel quite non-existant, yet :) Maybe a few of us should write to
)Mr Peterson, to let him know we exist ?

Grant Petersen is an avid Bay Area cyclist who wrote a series of books
called "Roads to Ride" which are great descriptions of Bay Area roads
with terrain maps; the best books I've ever read for suggesting where to
ride.  He's never had a car, so I'm sure he knows at least one
bicycle commuter.  I'd take his statements with a grain of salt; after
all, it's certainly true that there aren't *enough* bicycle commuters
out there.
 -Tom
From: jimh@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Jim Haagen-Smit)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Info in Wetlands Century? (2/14/93)
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:43:19 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: HP Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL7]

Kathryn Henniss (henniss@csli.stanford.edu) wrote:
: who to contact (and by what date) regarding the Wetlands
: Century in the Chico/Colusa/Butte Cty. area?

Call 916-343-VELO and leave your name and address asking for an app.
or write, Chico Velo at Box 2285 Chico, Ca, 95927.

I suspect the deadline is 2 weeks or so before the ride.

Folks that want to do an unsuported century in the Chico, California area
should think about (fast) the Paskenta Century.  Sunday Jan 31, 8:00 AM 
starts at One Mile Rec. area in Chico.  It heads over to the coast range 
and is fairly flat.  We plan on startig at the USFS ranger station in 
Corning and doing about 70 miles.

The above number will provide info for upcoming Chico Velo rides.
--
Jim Haagen-Smit
Roseville Networks Division Lab
jimh@hprnd.rose.hp.com
HP Telnet 785-4589
916 785-4589