From: browner@rm1.interlan.com (Michael Browner)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: COD Orders
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:36:08 GMT
Organization: Racal-Milgo, Sunrise, Florida

In article <C0Dy8B.I2H@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, bsplaine@sr.hp.com (Bill Splaine) writes:
|> Here is another question.... I've heard that buying something from someone
|> via COD/UPS would allow me to open the box and at least verify that what
|> I am paying for is in fact what is in the box.
|> 
|> My last experience turned out as expected, what I paid for is what I got..
|> But I was not allowed to open the box.
|> 
|> How do I protect my interests short of a cancelled check?  What's to say I
|> am not paying for a bag of sand in a box?
|> 
|> I realize 99% of those on this server are honest.  That's not the question.
|> Was the UPS driver mistaken about letting me open the box OR was I mistaken
|> in my reading of the thread that I saw a few months ago re purchases over
|> the net?
|> 
|> Any help/ understanding will be appreciated.
|> 

Techniclly you have to sign for the Box first, if the UPS guy wants to wait
for you to look inside that is his business.  But I believe it UPS policy
not to let someone open a box until it is signed for.

I know with regular freight carriers this is policy.  The reason that I know
this is that I used to work with my father and grandfather on their trucks.

Here is what happened to one driver that I knew.  He had a sofa that had 
hidden damage.  He was nice about letting the people open the box and check
it before signing, big mistake.  They refused the sofa, it went back to 
the terminal and then back to the shipper.  The shipper on seeing an open
box said the damage was caused by the trucking company and that driver opened
the package.  The trucking company was out the money for shipping and since
the box was opened and not signed for it was out the money for the sofa.
Guess where the money came from the pay the claims, you guesed it, each driver
had a bond with the company and they took part of the claim from there.

Now if you want to hear a story about forging a certified check and refusal
of the DA to procescute let me know.

Michael B.




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