HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Subject: RFD: several instrument-specific rec.music groups
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:59:17 GMT

Introduction: There are several newsgroups in the alt.* hierarchy which
are utilized for the discussion of various musical instruments.  The traffic
in these groups and the degree of participation from posters to the
rec.music.* groups indicate that it might be time to consider shifting
these groups to rec.music, and possibly to create another group or two
at the same time.

Proposal A: Create rec.music.guitar, and remove alt.guitar.

Rec.music.guitar would be a one-for-one unmoderated replacement of alt.guitar;
perhaps its charter would be "Discussion of electric and acoustic guitar
techniques and equipment".

Proposal B: Create rec.music.bass, and remove alt.guitar.bass.

Rec.music.bass would be a one-for-one unmoderated replacement of
alt.guitar.bass; perhaps its charter would be "Discussion of electric
and acoustic bass guitar techniques and equipment".

Proposal C: Create rec.music.drums.

Rec.music.drums would be an unmoderated group for the discussion of drums
and related percussion instruments.  Perhaps its charter would be "Discussion
of drums and percussion instrument techniques and equipment".

Proposal D: Created rec.music.tablature, rec.music.tablature.d and remove
	alt.guitar.tab.

These two groups would be used for posting lyrics, chords, tablature, sheet
music, and the discussion thereof.  Their charters might be something like:

rec.music.tablature: Lyrics, chords, and tablature posting ONLY.
rec.music.tablature.d: Lyrics, chords, and tablature discussion and requests.

Discussion:

A, B and D are designed to shift existing traffic to the main hierarchy;
it is hoped that this will make the relevant articles available to
a larger community.

C is designed to meet a need which seems to arise from time to time; I'm
unsure whether there are really enough people interested in this, but I
suppose this is one way to find out.

I'm not sure I like the name "tablature" for D; but I couldn't think
of a better alternative. ("rec.music.words-and-music"?)  I do think
that the traffic which shows up in the current alt.guitar.tab is only
partially guitar-specific, and that a general newsgroup which facilitates
the exchange of lyrics and music among all musicians might be in order.
I also wonder whether the rec.music.tablature.d newsgroup would be
effective vis-a-vis keeping extraneous traffic out of rec.music.tablature,
or whether it might be necessary to find a moderator.

If all four proposals are approved, five newsgroups will be created
and three will be deleted.

[[ Note that the two groups in D would have to be voted on separately.
   -- tale ]]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: phyfv001@ntnunews.scc.ntnu.edu.tw (phyfv001)
Subject: test
Reply-To: phyfv001@ntnunews.scc.ntnu.edu.tw (phyfv001)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:15:22 GMT


This is a test.
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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mi
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.ethnic-war
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:34:22 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:

> deast,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
> 
> JB>I stronly encourage the participants of this widely cross-posted
> JB>thread to create the proposed group (see subject line), and take their
> JB>war there.
> 
>    I agree 100%. I have many times tied to reply to Mr. Mutlu's lies by
>  posting to the appropriate boards ONLY. Unfortunately, Mr Mutlu then
>  proceeded to counter-attack, by posting mutilated and mis-represented
>  portions of my mailings to ALL gourps involved, even those that never had a
>  chance to see the full text of my messages.

Boards???  Ah, that's what happens when you let the unwashed masses into the
Usenet.  Perhaps the problem really lies with allowing PCBoards to gate Usenet
onto their local platforms, where too many novices are allowed to post to
NEWSGROUPS without having first read the guidelines.

>    The only solution is for all the readers of the affected groups to
>  complain LOUDLY to their administrators. Mr Mutlu's cross-posting tactics
>  clearly violate USENET guidelines.
> 
> Michael.
> 
> ---
>  . SLMR 2.1a . On a clear disk you can seek forever
>                                    


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dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
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From: cosar@anatolia.mn.org (Ahmet Cosar)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.yugoslavia,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
Subject: My apologies to Dr Zaphiris Christidis
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 08:52:34 PST
Organization: anatolia.mn.org


I would like to present my sincere apologies to Dr Zaphiris Christidis
for posting the below article by forging his user-id and domain-name;

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# Path: acsu.buffalo.edu!ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!WATSON.IBM.COM!zaphiri
# From: zaphiri@WATSON.IBM.COM (zaphiridis crissy)
# Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
# Subject: FTP site ----> zoro.cis.temple
# Message-ID: <1234aD2r5678@zoro.cis.temple>
# Date: 8 Aug 92 20:27:51 GMT
# Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
# Organization: crissy' gif service
# Lines: 14
#
#
# Hi folks,
#
# I placed a few gif(t)s on the "pub" directory. I have quite a big archive
# and I will be placing them few at a time. I would appreciate if you could
# download some recent gifs in return to the same directory since I haven't
# been following this group for some time.
#
# ps: You can e-mail me requests for beppin series, I have most of them.
#     If there is enough request I could repost them.
#
# ciao,
#
# zaphiridis
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-- 
   A.Cosar                                                                     
 ________________________________________________________________________      
          
Disc space -- the final frontier!                                              
 ________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: RFD: alt.ethnic-war.greeks-turks
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:46:49 GMT

I stronly encourage the participants of this widely cross-posted
thread to create the proposed group (see subject line), and take their
war there.

Or, alternatively, go shoot each other.

But keep this garbage out of newsgroups that have absolutely nothing
to do with it.  You're certainly not winning anyone's sympathies (and
that goes for everyone involved, no matter how right you feel you are.)
--
Jurgen Botz                  |   Internet: JBotz@mtholyoke.edu
Academic Systems Consultant  |     Bitnet: JBotz@mhc.bitnet
Mount Holyoke College        |      Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
South Hadley, MA, USA        | Snail Mail: J. Botz, 01075-0629
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.yugoslavia,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
From: roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten)
Subject: Re: My apologies to Dr Zaphiris Christidis
Organization: /cuba_b/dirbe/roten/.organization
X-Newsreader: GNU Emacs 18.57.1, GNUS 3.13, NNTP 3.10
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 08:51:26 GMT

In article <Bq9uPB1w164w@anatolia.mn.org> cosar@anatolia.mn.org 
(Ahmet Cosar) writes:

>I would like to present my sincere apologies to Dr Zaphiris Christidis
>for posting the below article by forging his user-id and domain-name;

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
># Path: acsu.buffalo.edu!ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!WATSON.IBM.COM!zaphiri
># From: zaphiri@WATSON.IBM.COM (zaphiridis crissy)
># Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
># Subject: FTP site ----> zoro.cis.temple
># Message-ID: <1234aD2r5678@zoro.cis.temple>
># Date: 8 Aug 92 20:27:51 GMT
># Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
># Organization: crissy' gif service
># Lines: 14
>#
>#
># Hi folks,
>#
># I placed a few gif(t)s on the "pub" directory. I have quite a big archive
># and I will be placing them few at a time. I would appreciate if you could
># download some recent gifs in return to the same directory since I haven't
># been following this group for some time.
>#
># ps: You can e-mail me requests for beppin series, I have most of them.
>#     If there is enough request I could repost them.
>#
># ciao,
>#
># zaphiridis
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------



>-- 
>   A.Cosar                                                                   
> ________________________________________________________________________     
>Disc space -- the final frontier!                                             
> ________________________________________________________________________

Don't say I did not warn you, Ahmet.  And I was not the only one !!  I am 
fully cognizant of the fact that you would not post such an apology without 
the metaphorical 'gun to the head'.  Your attacks against my posting 
privilidges, and those of others, have helped lead you to this place.  Had 
you simply restrained yourself, and kept to flaming in public, this would 
never have come up.  But you had to resort to forgery and slander.  

I am very glad that I am not in your place right now !!!  

I told you so !!!!!  

--
Charles Roten | Hughes-STX, Incorporated | 
  roten@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov               | 'Use the Source, Luke!'
  7601 Ora-Glen Dr., Greenbelt, MD 20706 | 
  301-513-7805 (w),  301-317-0872 (h)    |            Obi-Wan Stallman
From: rokosz@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: problems getting c-news started
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:58:40 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB


     I've been trying to install c-news on a Sun SPARC II.  The installation
instructions go into elaborate detail about how to answer questions to create
the installation scripts, which went beautifully.  But then all it says is to
cron a file with cron commands and to execute a script at boot time, which are
listed later.  Root gets a few messages every day saying it doesn't find certain
files, and there isn't any sort of nntp daemon running, as evidenced when I
try to read news from it.  I also don't know at which point it loads the
articles - it probably doesn't.
     I'm relatively new at getting such things going (is that obvious?), so I
really don't know what to try next.  My main problem is that I sometimes see
things I could try but don't know what I should & shouldn't be touching.  Can
someone point me in the right direction?  Please respond through e-mail.

						Randy Rokosz
						Phillips Lab - Kirtland
						(505) 846-6108
						rokosz@uservx.plk.af.mil

P.S.  Here's the results I've been getting:

Results of the cron jobs:
-------------------------
sendbatches gets:
egrep: /usr/lib/news/batchparms: No such file or directory
egrep: /usr/lib/news/batchparms: No such file or directory

newsdaily gets:
mv: errlog.oo: Cannot access: No such file or directory
mv: batchlog.oo: Cannot access: No such file or directory

newswatch gets:
No message !?!

when I try to read the news:
----------------------------
crunch:/home/rokosz: xrn
crunch:/home/rokosz: connect: Connection refused
giving up ...
Mon Aug 10 09:03:10 1992: Failed to reconnect to the NNTP server (server_init), sleeping...

crunch:/home/rokosz:

End of message
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Subject: Re: alt.ethnic-war: Greek/Armenian Anti-Semitism In The Ottoman Empire.
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:50:06 GMT

In article <9208160253.A1296qv@anadolu.michigan.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:

...[Much material which is irrelevant to news.sysadmin...]

Go away!  This has nothing to do with news.sysadmin!

Go, go, go on now, shoo!

Brendan
-- 
Brendan B. Boerner		Phone: 512/346-8380
Internet: bboerner@novell.com	MHS: bboerner@novell
Please use ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ if replying by mail.
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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: alt.ethnic-war
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


LLT>Please note that the above also applied to you. Quit cross-posting
LLT>this drivel to news.sysadmin. Stop it, Stop it, Stop it, Stop it, Stop
LLT>it, Stop it, Stop it, Stop it, Stop it, Stop it! What Usenet
LLT>guidelines? You mean the ones that say you shouldn't cross-post to
LLT>inappropriate groups? Try following that rule yourself.

  You missed the point of my message. I HAVE REPEATEDLY TRIED to post to
  S.c.Greek and s.c.Turkish ONLY. Others have too. Mr Mutlu's response was to
  post vile insults to numerous groups, complete with mutilated, misrepresented
  and out-of-context quotes from my messages. All this to groups that I DID NOT
  post to, and whose readers never had a chance to read my complete postings.

  In any case my cross-posting to NEWS.SYSADMIN was ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.
  This is a matter that SYSADMIN readers should look into. In any case, my
  Newsgroup: line was identical to the Newsgroup: line of the posting that I
  replied to.

  When have I ever posted to NEWS.SYSADMIN before?

  Michael

---
 . SLMR 2.1a . Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.ethnic-war.greeks-turks
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:53:49 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <Bsvw62.Byq@mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
>I stronly encourage the participants of this widely cross-posted
>thread to create the proposed group (see subject line), and take their
>war there.
>
>Or, alternatively, go shoot each other.

Most participants except Mr. Mutlu try to limit their discussion to
the appropriate boards. It is only him that tries to expand his propaganda
to as many areas of Usenet as possible.

If you want to complain about something, please complain at the people
who feed anadolu.michigan.com and its clones, not to all other readers
of the respective groups. 

Since the machine feeding Mr. Mutlu belongs to Mr. John Palmer
(tygra.michigan.com) of Detroit Direct Marketing if I am not mistaken,
why don't you (and me, and everyone else) inquire as to whether the
fee Mr. Mutlu pays to send/receive news and mail is a fair assessment
of the real costs involved?

This message was only posted to news.sysadmin and news.groups...

Spiros


-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: I need to yank an article...person being harassed
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:45:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: chowning.cnmat.berkeley.edu


Hello, I posted an article for a friend to advertise her roommate vacancy  
recently, and she is getting calls from men who are asking her for dates.   
I am amazed that people are stooping so low to do this...she was asking  
for a female roommate and men have no business replying at all.

I am trying to yank the articles, but my News program (NewsGrazer for the  
NeXT) does not let me.  When I select the option to cancel the current  
article, the program's response is "You can only cancel your own article"  
even though I am logged in as the same person and on the same machine I  
was using when I posted it.

Can someone else yank it for me?  This is embarrassing me, I meant to do  
her a favor, and now she is being harassed.  

I posted the article in two places, actually.  I am not sure what  
information one needs for yanking an article, so I am enclosing the  
headers for both postings.

Thanks in advance,
Greg

in ucb.housing:
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: ucb.housing
Subject: Female housemate wanted, SF Mission
Date: 23 Jul 1992 23:29:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

in ba.market.housing:
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: ba.market.housing
Subject: Female housemate wanted, S.F. Mission
Date: 23 Jul 1992 23:26:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

--
Greg Sandell
Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: FORGING ARTICLES ON USENET. (The MUTLU & COSAR saga)
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.023910.14531@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
>
>Why the @$%&*(% was this cross-posted to comp.sys.next.sysadmin?  We really
>don't care who this person is.  Please take it elsewhere.
>
>louie

Maybe we could get bandy to write a net-daemon to ferrout out and nuke with
extreme prejudice any and all aricles posted by these dweebs.  Crossposted
or not.  Only half a smiley here.

jim

-- 
Lawyers Creed:  What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.
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Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.ethnic-war.greeks-turks
Date: 11 Aug 92 20:44:21 GMT





<SMITTIE.92Aug12121631@beach.csulb.edu>
smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)

>Of course, I guess the possibility exists that Mutlu is being paid by some
>terrorist group to propagate their, and his, propaganda via this medium.

Your consciousness is so raised you float. Let me give you a terrorist
tone.

 "...that more people have to die..." 

                          ASALA/SDPA/ARF <91@urartu.UUCP>

  "Yes, I stated this and stand by it."

                          ASALA/SDPA/ARF <255@urartu.UUCP>


    	January 28, 1982 - Los Angeles
	Kemal Arikan, the Turkish consul general in Los Angeles, is
	assassinated by two terrorists while driving to work. 

    	March 22, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
	Prelude to grisly murder. A gift and import shop belonging to
	Orhan Gunduz, the honorary Turkish consul in Boston, is blown up.
	Gunduz receives an ultimatum: Either he gives up his honorary 
	position or he will be "executed". He refuses. "Responsibility" - 
	the word seems to cringe when used in such a context - is claimed 
	by JCAG.

    	March 26, 1982 - Beirut
	Two dead, sixteen injured in an explosion at a movie theater (which
	frequently shows Turkish films). ASALA claims credit for the attack.

    	April 8, 1982 - Ottawa
	Kani Gungor, the commercial attache at the Turkish Embassy in Ottawa,
	is seriously wounded in an attack by Armenian terrorists in the 
	garage of his apartment house. ASALA claims responsibility.

    	April 24, 1982 - Dortmund, West Germany
	Several Turkish-owned businesses suffer extensive damage in bomb 
	attacks. The "New Armenian Resistance Organization" claims 
	responsibility.

    	May 4, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
	Orhan Gunduz, the Turkish honorary consul in Boston, would not bow 
	to the Armenian terrorist ultimatum that he give up his title of 
	"honorary consul". Now he is attacked and murdered in cold blood.
	President Reagan orders an all-out manhunt-to no avail. An eye-
	witness who gave a description of the murderer is shot down.  He 
	survives... but falls silent. One of the most revolting "triumphs" in 
	the senseless, mindless history of Armenian terrorism. Such a murder 
	brings absolutely nothing - except an ego boost for the murderer 
	within the Armenian terrorist underworld, which is already wallowing 
	in self-satisfaction.
 
Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks)
Subject: Registering a New Site
Keywords: NNTP, New Site
Organization: NASA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:28:19 GMT



Do I need to register my machine if I am getting a NNTP News 
feed over the internet? The documentation implies registering is 
only for UUCP type connections. If I do , can someone send me an
example of the form for a NNTP News feed?


Thank you!



------------------------------------------------
Oscar Brooks		
NASA, Real Time Systems Branch
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
Internet <obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> (NeXT Mail Preferred)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin