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From: pshuprs@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Help with strings wanted!
Keywords: string command line
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:34:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Oct8.015636.24935@hubcap.clemson.edu> rmcguir@hubcap.clemson.edu (Bryan McGuire) writes:


>that when the HP48 stores strings that contain double quotes, they have 
>something like C$ 5435 at the beginning,...

  Actually, the string is stored no differently from any other.
Only in the editor will you see the C$ XXX notation. This tells the
parser to copy the next XXX characters into the string, ignoring
any special characters.. Therefore, you can stick as many delimiters
in there (like double quotes) and it won't care.

> I also found that modifying such 
>a string makes weird things happen internally with the string...  The

What happened is that you added characters to the string but didn't change
the number.  So if you had a string that was represented this way in the
editor:
  C$ 5 BCDA"
and you added two characters in the middle:
  C$ 5 BC..DA"
once you exited the editor, the parser would only copy the first 5 characters
into the string on stack level 1
so you would see:

1: "BC..D"
and the last two characters, 'A' and '"', would be discarded.

if you are editing a string by itself (i.e. you have a string on
level 1 and push the edit key, or down-arrow) then this problem can
be solved by changing the number to some number which is LARGER than
the string. so, do this

  C$ 1000 BC..DA"

and the parser will copy all 7 characters into your level 1 string, although
it is really looking for 1000.

This same mechanism applies to command line entry (a special case of the
editor), except that if you are entering some object or command on
the command line AFTER your spcial string, you have to give C$ an
exact count.  Otherwise, the parser will suck up what follows the string,
too.

Robert



>inevitable question is this:  How does one go about editing a string
>that contains quotation marks in it?  Any help would be liked!  

>Bryan    (rmcguir@hubcap.clemson.edu)

P.S. to avoid this altogether, use Lutz Vieweg's excellent QED
     editor.  It's blazingly fast, and you can even edit the null char!


-- 
Robert Sanders 
Georgia Institute of Technology
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From: nus2571@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (Garrett G Obrien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: cables & stuff
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:31:39 GMT
Organization: Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, Columbus



I read that some of you need cables.  A friend of mine sells cables and
overlays for the HP-48.  The cables include a 2 meter cable, db-9 to db-25
adapter, and a 720k disk with kermit and some programs on it  It costs
$25.00 with a student discount (he said that if you want to tell him that 
you are a student, he'll never know, they are $32.95 otherwise.)  The 
overlays have the greek letters and all the blue and orange shift keys.  
They cost $10.00 with student discount and $11.95 otherwise.  These are 
US dollars, and come with postage paid inside the US.  Outside you'll have
to include postage.  I've got both of them myself, and they are nice.
I used to have an HP cable, but it was a lot shorter (I'm not sure how
much) and didn't come with the software or adapter.  The overlay is 
cheaper that what I've seen elsewhere and I think it has more on it.
This isn't a paid advertisement, and I'm not getting anything out of it,
I just thought I'd pass the info to you.  
His address is:
     
     SCS
     3312 Columbus Ct. #11
     Columbus, OH 43290
     (614) 236-6062

I hope this information is useful.
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Possible bug in HP48SX Version E UNITS
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:59:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.92Oct13005956
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp48
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores

HP 48 units cannot have fractional powers.  This is misidentified
as a bug about every month or so when some new person finds this
behavior.  The solution is simple--never raise a unit to a
fractional power before doing UBASE.  Always do UBASE, then raise
to the fractional power.  This will ensure that if your problem
doesn't call for fractional unit powers in the result, then the
units will come out correctly.

--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp48:5166 comp.sys.palmtops:3217
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48,comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: how much is the 95LX
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Date: 16 Oct 1992 03:25:47 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <9k2zr6=@rpi.edu> fokp@rpi.edu writes:
>Can anybody tell me what the price of the HP95LX is and what the 
>configuration is?  Also what major function it has that the HP48sx
>doesn't have?
>thanks

The low for the 512KB HP-95LX is about $399.  The 1MB machine is around
$580.  The 95 and 48 are just about incomparable, since the 48 is a
very sophisticated calculator and the 95 is a very small MS-DOS
computer.  Some people have one of each.  So far there are plenty of
things the 48 can do that the 95 can't, and vice versa.  A special
version of Derive is available for the 95, which is better for some
people than the 48.  Scientific calculator software specifically for
the 95 is otherwise lacking.

Since most 95 discussion is in comp.sys.palmtops, I've crossposted and
set followups to there.
--
<-:(= Anthony Stieber	anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu   uwm!uwmcsd4!anthony
From: flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Calculating working days once more
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:40:34 GMT
Organization: Flavio Casetta, Reg'd HP ISV & OEM of handheld computers.

Hello everybody,


The function FD appeared in a previous posting contained
an error due to a bad copying.

this is the right version


FD:                    First Day of month

<< -> d
   << IF -42 FS? THEN
      d FP 1 +
      ELSE 
      d DUP IP SWAP FP 100 * 
      FP                              missing function
      1 + 100 / +
      END
   >>
>>

Missing the function, a macroscopic error occurs when flag -42 (date format)
is clear.

Sorry for the inconvenient.

Flavio

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams)
Subject: Re: HP programs on unix
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: HP programs on unix
Organization: Princeton University Observatory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:17:15 GMT

In article <1bb4u8INNo3l@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>In article <8=yz5q_@rpi.edu> fokp@rpi.edu writes:
>>
>>***Doesn't anybody know how to transfer programs from unix to HP48sx?***
>>
>You should get a copy of ckermit. it may already be on your system.
>
>You also need a serial port on your workstation. The serial port
>will be controlled in /dev/tty??? and you have to have read/write access
>to the device. 
[...]

Or if you are using a terminal, start kermit on the terminal, put it
into server mode, then unplug the terminal and plug in your 48 in it's
place. You will need a null adapter. (As I understand it, this simply
swaps a couple of the lines. It is necessary because both your Unix
machine and the 48 think they are a computer, and expect to talk to
someting that thinks it is a terminal.) You may also need a gender
changer and/or 9 to 25 pin D plug converter, depending on what your HP
cable connecter is, and what your terminal takes. To finish up, issue
the 'exit' command from your HP and reconnect the terminal. You may
also need to change the baud rate to your terminal (command 'stty' I
think.)

Michael W.
From: Uwe_Kuechler@f.maus.de (Uwe Kuechler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Serial Number??
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 15:05:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14

Kommentar zu A33310@HB in der Gruppe C.SYS.HP48

Hi, !
t>Von : torhr@Lise.Unit.NO (Mo, 05.10.92 18:41)
t>Name: Tor H. Ringstad
t>Box : Norwegian Institute of Technology
t>MId : <1992Oct5.174117.13476@ugle.unit.no>
t>
t>Does anybody know if the HP48S(X) has any kind of serial number or
t>something else
t>that can uniquely identify one calculator (that can be checked from a
t>program)??

Unfortunately there isn't any serial number in the ROM. There is no way to
identify ONE certain HP48sx.

Ciao!
--==## Uwe ##==--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kskalb@immd1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Klaus Kalb)
Subject: Re: System RPL Questions
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:59:19 GMT
Keywords: RPL Help

ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:

>TakeOver isn't limited to ParOuterLoop in a program.

We knew that already. The question is:

Why should the key definition programs in a POL start with TakeOver as
suggested by the sample programs in rplman.doc.

There are two opinions out there:

(1) Because these objects are executed by DoKeyObj, and thus they will
    beep instead of evaluating the object under some conditions.

(2) For no appearent reason. Experience shows that a missing
    TakeOver doesn't change the behaviour of the program, but
    if HP suggests including them, we keep on including them. 

I currently doubt (1) and support (2), but I don't know the truth.

-KK
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From: akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (edward joseph fasula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Flavio@sublink.org??
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:40:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvbbs.2addcd26.1929.1comp.sys.hp48.1

Yes, Flavio, why don't you make your software availible to us!  Please
send information regarding the spreadsheet software to:

       Edward Fasula
       1500 A. Dupont Ave. N.

       Minneapolis, MN 55411 USA

(sorry for that blank line)

Or call me ay 612-529-2687.

Thanks.  Ed Fasula
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: "john ricciuti" <john.ricciuti@canrem.com>
Subject: hp48 bbs upgrades!
Reply-To: "john ricciuti" <john.ricciuti@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:47:18 EST


Everyone with a HP48 or 95LX:


              Give the RAIDERS OF THE LAST ARG bbs a Call!

                   Supporting HP48 and 95LX ONLY!!!!

                        300 - 38400 BPS! USR HST

                            (416) - 968 - 6633


                ** ALL 7 GOODIES DISK ONLINE ++ ALL NEW FILES **
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: lkv@mania.hotb.sub.org (Lutz Vieweg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: v07i014: rflib.cr - RF as LIB 903 v1.21, Part01/01
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:43:54 GMT
 <1b5re1INNaat@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> <Bw06q2.ICs@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
 <1992Oct12.121406.29420@engage.pko.dec.com>
Organization: The Funny Farm
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 alpha rel3

In article <1992Oct12.121406.29420@engage.pko.dec.com>, Joseph James Ervin writes:

> Please let me know how you make out, and I will get back to Lutz.  I don't
> think he reads this group very often.

My problem is that I'm only receiving little parts of the postings in here,
there seems to be some news-gap... :(

So if anyone really wants me to read his message, send me an email, please.

cu, Lutz Vieweg
From: sandy@terapin.com (Balbir Singh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: wondering about the hp promotion?
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:27:56 PST
Organization: BBS

I just ordered a calculator at my school through an engineering society for
$249, I was wondering will HP promotional pack for the 48sx still apply to
me and also will I get the PC link with my calculator or do I have to get
it from somewhere else after showing my receipt....I would like more info...
thanks...
From: medina@jake.plk.af.mil (David F. Medina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Library for RFU
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:02:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory

Hi,

The RFU directory as obtained from the Horn disks
will not work as a library since RF calls RFP using
'RFP' which is not recognized by a library even if
such an object exists in the library.

What do you do to put this into a library?  Is there
a RF.LIB file somewhere on the net?

-- 
(my opinions)
+--------------------------+------------------------------+
| David F. Medina          | USAF Phillips Lab            |
| medina@jake.plk.af.mil   | PL/WSSD                      |
| Voice: 505-846-2018      | Kirtland AFB, NM  87117-6008 |
+--------------------------+------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: digdug@iastate.edu (Doug V Tran)
Subject: SPICE CARD
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:31:35 GMT

Has anybody gotten this card yet.  If so, could you tell me how complete it
is.  Is it on the level of Pspice?


thanks,
later,
doug

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov (Jethro H. Greene)
Subject: Infinite Precision Program for 48
Followup-To: jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov
Originator: jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 05:11:59 GMT

Hi.

Does anyone have a good program that can add/multiply/exponentiate
integers with infinite precision?  I have written several and none of
them were time or memory efficient.  (I found that it was easier to
do using strings.)

Thanks,
Jed (Student)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: TOBIAS@bonnie.physik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject: Re: Non-Integer Units (was: possible bug in HP48SX Version E
Organization: Physics Dept, University of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:59:56 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Oct15.120139.7689@iscsvax.uni.edu> kraai4712@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

> Philosophical tangent from this recurring thread.
> 
> Do units with non-integer exponents have meaning?  
> 
> Maybe if this was discussed by someone who knows about the topic in
> a casual, clear manner, this wouldn't come up every few months.
> 
> I thought I saw some reference to this non-bug in the FAQ?
> Could someone who knows something please comment on this?


Yes they have. Take for example the kinetic energy: E = 1/2 m v^2
So if you have the Energy ( for example in Joule) and then you
want the speed you have to take the square root of Joule.
Of course you can - in this case - first convert joule into SI units.

Bye. Tobias.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: fburdette@worldbank.org (Franklin P. Burdette)
Subject: VGA & DeskMate Killer for TL2
Followup-To: comp.sys.tandy
Organization: The World Bank
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:04:20 GMT

About a year ago a friend installed a 40MB drive in a relatives TL2. Now
the TL2 is booting
from DeskMate and even Norton can't find my internal HD! What's goin' on!
Also, I would
like to add a VGA monitor to the TL2. Any Suggestions?

Franklin P. Burdette
MIS Coordinator, CFSVP
The World Bank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: wanted: modem for TRS80
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:21:26 GMT

ae453@yfn.ysu.edu (Brian Roberts) writes:


>	I'm sorry.  It's my girlfriend's computer and she told me it was
>a TRS80.  I know nothing about these type of machines, so I wasn't aware of 
>the difference.  I should have found out.  Well, I asked her and she says 
>it's a CoCo 64K.  
>	To correct my original question: 
>		I'm looking for a modem for a CoCo 64K.  Anybody have one?

You'll need an adapter cable for the serial/printer port (Radio Shack
may still sell these) or an RS-232 interface adapter that plugs into the
cartridge port. Given either of these, you can use *any* modem.

-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: gmr6139@ultb.isc.rit.edu (G.M. Richard)
Subject: Re: Rainbow magazine status
Originator: gmr6139@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:35:56 GMT


If you ask at a local Radil Shack, a salesperson (if you get the right
one) should be able to tell you where to find the PCM magazine.   Also,
I would look in large bookstores and newsstands. 

-- 
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____________________________________________  gmr6139@ritlav.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy,sci.electronics
From: getz@bistro.berkeley.edu (Neil Getz)
Subject: 8080/8085 Assembly Language Subroutines
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:52:13 GMT

Netters-

Someone sent me a reply to my posting regarding my search
for a copy the book 8080/8085 Assembly Language Subroutines by
Lance Leventhal and for 8085 assembly language mathematics
routines. Unfortunately our local mailer ate the message
before I could read it (Really and truly it wasn't my fault). 
Would whoever sent this reply please resend it.

Thanks.

-Neil
getz@robotics.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: OCTUG
From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:58:14 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <44@rcisnet2.uucp>, rcisnet2!color_galaxy_mw!cosmonaut writes:
> For Tandy users in the Orange County area in Southern California, there is a
> users group meeting on the 3rd Sunday of every month in Orange at the City
> Mall.  Call Mike @ (714)545-1059 for more.  Look forward to OCTUG BBS running
> StG on a 1M Tandy hd63B09EP based computer running a multi-tasking real-time
> operating system.  Will have comp.sys.tandy plus Internet mail!!!
-- 
Hmmm, Cosmo, I will try to make it!

(hehe)


--
Eric Levinson
rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com	|  Home computer (UUCP)
levinson@vax.sonoma.edu		|  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: leonard@coyote.datalog.com (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: GEnie access
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 04:06:29 GMT

For those of you desiring access to GEnie, I am supplying the signup
requirements.  It's been a while since I signed up, so I don't recall the
sign-up fee, around $15 I think.  GEnie charges $4.95/month for BASIC 
services, Prime-Time rates can get pretty steep (as much as $24/hour), but 
non-prime time rates are VERY affordable, only $6/hr for non-basic services. 
Just to give you an idea of what to expect for fees, I called once/twice a 
week, spent all my time in the TANDY/TRS-80 RT (a non-basic service), and 
downloaded maybe 2 files a week and participated heavily in the discussions, 
all for around $15/month.
    My personal comments on GEnie : this is the BEST service I have EVER 
come across that provides on-going TRS-80 service, at a VERY affordable 
price.  If you can afford the service, I highly recommend it!
   To Access Genie, have a credit card ready (or even a checking account # 
if you reside in the US).  Set your baud rate up to 2400 baud and call
1-800-638-8369 (Canada : 1-800-387-8330), when you connect, type HHH and 
wait.  (Also, before calling, turn on local echo/half duplex as GEnie does 
NOT provide an echo).  At the U#= prompt, type SIGNUP and press <RETURN>.
All you need to do then is to answer the on-line questionare, which will 
also give you a local number to access GEnie.
   You may be asked if you wish to purchase an owners manual for GEnie, 
which is an additional cost of around $15.  I do not suggest making this 
purchase, GEnie is so easy to get around that you can save that expense for 
later.  You can also download it from GEnie yourself and save the expense.  
This manual is handy for some of the more advanced features the GEnie 
offers, and are not displayed in the menu's.
    If you do decide to sign-up with GEnie, be sure to stop by and say hi, 
my address is TRS-OP.  You will be voice verified before you can access 
GEnie, so don't expect immediate access.  See you in the TANDY RT!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: leonard@coyote.datalog.com (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: CM-5 Monitor
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 05:23:07 GMT

The Tandy CM-5 monitor is definately (verified) a CGA monitor.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: mgrice@athena.mit.edu (Matthew Grice)
Subject: Tandy 6000
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:38:02 GMT


I know that a few tandy 6000's have changed hands in this newsgroup
in the past few months.  If you are one of the parties involved, I 
would appreciate it if you could tell me how much they sold for.
I have had an offer to trade my 6000 for a Sun-2, but want to know if
I could get more for it, or if I am getting a real good deal.
If you would like my 6000, please send me mail!

Thanks to Steve Scrivan for helping me fix my 6000.  I lost your address,
  but am eternally grateful!  I wonder how that jumper hopped over to the
  wrong pin?

-mgrice@athena.MIT.edu
-89929191@uwplatt.edu
From: trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Another query (Re: Rainbow magazine status)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 14:28:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc6.ins.cwru.edu

In article <1992Oct10.210204.26100@ultb.isc.rit.edu> gmr6139@ultb.isc.rit.edu (G.M. Richard) writes:
>Rainbow magazine has gone out of print.  In it's place, the writers and
>publishers started PCM, specifically for the Tandy 1000 series computer.

No, PCM was started years ago while Rainbow was still going strong.
Rainbow is still in print, or so I am told.  It has switched to a
newsletter format and is available by subscription.  It is not on
newsstands any more.

It's kind of sad that it has gone full-circle from a newsletter to a
hundreds-of-pages magazine, back to a newsletter, but at least Lonnie
Falk was willing to keep it going as a newsletter, rather than simply
killing it.

I picked this up, by the way, from the CoCo mailing list.  No one has
posted subscription info for the new/old Rainbow, though, so this is all
very much second-hand info.

-- 
Stephen Trier                                     
Network Services Engineering, IRIS/INS/Telecom    "Dessine-moi un mutton"
Case Western Reserve University                        - Le Prince
trier@ins.cwru.edu