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From: karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias)
Subject: Re: Maxtor 7213S & Amix -=- wont boot
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 15:46:36 GMT

dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein) writes:
: 
:     I decided to replace my boot drive in my 2500UX box with a Maxtor 7213S
:   (213meg 3.5" drive).  The unit comes shipped from the factory set to
:   device #6. Leaving the drive set for #6, I booted from the Unix install
:   disk and did a complete install. Then I changed the jumper to device #0
:   and tried to boot.

Legend has it that: The install process patches the SCSI ID somewhere (perhaps
in the kernel itself) and so changing the address confuses it.  Are you
getting a double panic error, etc.?  If I were you I would try changing the
jumper back to #6 just to see what happens.  If that works then you can decide
whether to reconfig (I'm not sure if you have to go through the whole
re-install again) under ID #0.

I've heard that this is also the case with memory e.g., install under one
amount of memory but boot under another (e.g. after an upgrade) and it pukes. 
I've only personally witnessed the SCSI ID one though.


Jim
From: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Maxtor 7213S & Amix -=- wont boot
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:34:10 GMT
Reply-To: dans@rehab1.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA


    I decided to replace my boot drive in my 2500UX box with a Maxtor 7213S
  (213meg 3.5" drive).  The unit comes shipped from the factory set to
  device #6. Leaving the drive set for #6, I booted from the Unix install
  disk and did a complete install. Then I changed the jumper to device #0
  and tried to boot.

    The menu (old 020/030 accelerator style w/the 3 boxes (Ados, 020 Ados,
  Unix) appears. However in the upper left corner it says "command bit
  not set". (This message appears to come from the accelerator board)

    Is it possible to make this combo (Maxtor 7213S - 2500UX) work? If so
  how? Maxtor shipped the unit with IDE doxs so im kinda working in the
  dark here.

    Please e-mail replies and I will post a summary.

    -Dan
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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Unix for my A4000?
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:36:59 GMT
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Is there gonna be a UNIX working on the A4000? Just wondering.

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From: chuck@cpg.trs.reuter.com (Chuck Menard)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Various UNIX possibilities. Which would you buy, and why?
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:03:48 GMT
Organization: Reuters Client Site Systems, Oakbrook,IL

If I have an Amiga 3000, what would it cost me to add Unix?  That's considering
that I have all the correct hardware, i.e. larger hard drive, enough memory,
etc.  I'm assuming that it can be bought seperately, then I wouldn't have to
buy a machine that comes with Unix.

Thanks in advance,
CUL,
Chuck

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From: fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish)
Subject: Re: PRoblem using DEC RZ-55/56 disks (braindead designers)
Organization: Amiga Library Distribution Services
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:36:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.050758.9022@mail.cornell.edu> chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu writes:
>There is NO jumper on the drive to control this spin-up behavior.  Rather,
>you need to toggle a flag in the drive's configuration data which is stored
>on a special reserved area of the disk itself.

What braindead designer thought up this catch 22 situation.  You can't
toggle the bit to spin up the drive by default, until you can spin up the
drive?

-Fred
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From: chris@132.236.236.120 (Christopher A. Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: PRoblem using DEC RZ-55/56 disks (braindead designers)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 00:32:03 GMT
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In article <C0HyCH.8v2@fishpond.uucp> fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish) writes:
> In article <1993Jan7.050758.9022@mail.cornell.edu> chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu writes:
> >There is NO jumper on the drive to control this spin-up behavior.  Rather,
> >you need to toggle a flag in the drive's configuration data which is stored
> >on a special reserved area of the disk itself.
>
> What braindead designer thought up this catch 22 situation.  You can't
> toggle the bit to spin up the drive by default, until you can spin up the
> drive?
>
> -Fred
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I agree it's a poor design not to have a jumper control for it but it's not
as bad as you make it out to be.  You can get the drive to spin-up by
sending it a software signal and once it's spun up you can then write to the
platters to change the default behavior.  The program I have does this -
first starts the drive spinning and then modifies the defaults.

Also, as far as I know this particular configuration of the drive was
originally shipped only in DEC workstations.  Apparently all of the SCSI
controllers on these workstations send spin-up commands to each device on
the bus so the drive's behavior didn't cause any problems in its intended
environment.  I have been told that the purpose of the delayed spin-up
behavior is to prevent a massive simultaneous power-drain which would occur
if multiple large drives installed on the workstation all tried to spin
up simultaneously.

As a point of interest, while trying to get the drive working on my Amiga
I tested it in two PCs too.  One PC's SCSI card sent the spin up commands
and the other didn't so the lack of this behavior is not unique to the
Amiga apparently.

                                                      - Chris

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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Various UNIX possibilities. Which would you buy, and why?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 05:23:53 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <C0EJyI.MtL@digiboard.digibd.com> rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey) writes:
>	SVR4.0. Problem is C= itself doesn't appear to be doing anything
>	with UNIX. My money for future AmigaUNIX is for some third
>	party to provide it or else C= will outsource it to a third
>	party to port/support. An '040 based AmigaUNIX would be VERY

Either is possible, though C= has said that a rewrite of AmigaUNIX to
work under the 040's rather limited MMU is being done.  It has been a
while, though, and there are a lot of people wondering what's taking
them so long.

>	nice! Other possibilitys are Mach and maybe some Linux port although
>	I hear 386BSD and Linux have Intel dependancys that would be a bear
>	to deal with on a big endian architecture.

I've heard Linux is pretty hard that way.  Dunno about 386BSD, though
it's likely.  :)

Greg

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From: jk72+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan Michael Kraly)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: KernelProblems
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:20:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IfIdhse00WB48e6L9e
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


	I've been getting errors trying to boot Unix, before it even
gets to any sort of unix type screen.  Something like 'expected
0*000001E8 found 0*0000xxxx', it never gets past this stage and I have
no ideas on how to fix it.  Any ideas on what the problem is?
jk72@andrew.cmu.edu
From: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com (John Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: A3070 drive
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:59:08 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo, CA

In article <1993Jan10.031439.21834@msdrl.com> karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias) writes:
>In the process of deciding on whether to spring for Amiga Unix, I'm evaluating
>several tape drives.  The Viper 250meg seems to be a good choice at 7meg/min,
>etc. but I'm wondering if - at the price point of the CBM tape drive (the
>A3070) - it isn't worth just going with CBM's solution...  Does anyone have
>any preferences, etc. or pet peaves re: one tape drive vs. another?

Well, I only have the A3070, but the Viper seems to be an excellent and
very fast drive.  The A3070 is competent and quick (~6MB/min according
to my estimates) but lacks QIC-24 compatibility that the other drives
may have.


>Also, I
>understand that only Wangtek, Sankyo, and Caliper drives are explicitly
>supported by CBM's unix install utility and so that's a consideration (rumour
>has it that there is a kludge available topermit the Viper to work though -
>BTW does anyone know if the A3070 is just a repackaged Wangtek or not?). 

Yes, Amiga UNIX 2.1 comes with the necessary patches and kludges to
allow the Viper to work.  It looks pretty simple to use--break out the
install program, run viper_kludge, run the install program again.  The
A3070 is a repackaged Calipher CP150-AEH.


>Finally, forgive the ignorance, but what is the deal with QIC-150?  I've heard
>that you can read 250 meg tapes in QIC-150 format drives but that it's not
>"healthy" to do so...  Is there a QIC-250?  If so, does the same apply about
>reading 150s in a QIC-250 drive, etc.  Thanks.

For a while, 3M put warning slips in their 6250 cartridges that using
the 250MB cartridge in a 150MB drive might cause excessive head wear.
Concerned customers called 3M, who explained that due to the different
oxide and tape characteristics, frequent switching between the 6250 and
6150 (150MB) cartridges might accelerate head wear.  However, sticking
to one size, either 6250 or 6150, should cause no problems.  Occasional
use of a different size tape is also not a problem.  A fairly recent
post reported that 3M no longer seems to be concerned about it.

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From: Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: Serial Port lockup w/ cu ?!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27b beta (Jan 02 1993)
Date: 7 Jan 93 09:50:49 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System


This may be something stupid on my part, but I just have to ask ...
 
I've been having problems using cu w/ a modem hooked up to the internal
serial port on my A3000.  It dials out just fine, but if I get a busy
signal it just hangs and I'm unable to break cu unless I log onto another
port and kill it.  Is there a fix for this or do I have something setup
wrong?
 
(I seem to have a problem breaking out of cu in general after a connect.
With debugging on, the last thing is see is "transmit started" and
nevermore...)
 
Also, I saw a post sometime ago about using SLIP w/ a dialup (calling w/
the Amix side).  Could somebody furnish me with more info about this?
(my system has had problems with both news and mail, sorry :-().
 
Thanks in advance for *any* help,
 
Brad.
Bradb@nesbbx.rain.com

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From: rxtgep@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Glen Pill)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: tape units
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:02:15 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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Does anyone have a list of all the tape units tried with installing AMix??
I've heard that not all tape units seem to like AMix and i'd like to know
if anyone has tried a Sony NEWS NWP-536A Tape Unit for installation.

I'm about to give installing AMix a go with one of these units and I was
wondering if anyone can give me any hints as to what problems I can expect.


Thanks.


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From: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Various UNIX possibilities. Which would you buy, and why?
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:32:41 GMT
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN

In article <C0AApv.85I@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, btaplin@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (bradley richard taplin) writes:
|> 	Hello. I recently read the "real low-end" article in a late-fall
|> 	issue of SunExpert and am curious about the new SparcClassic. Is
|> 	16 mb RAM, a 207 mb hard drive, and Solaris 2.1 a good standalone
|> 	package? Would it be possible to develop using GNU C or Sun's C?
|> 	C++ as well? Scheme? Could this become a "home server" providing
|> 	terminal access from a Macintosh and/or DOS box in other rooms?
|> 
	Hurl the 207 and get at LEAST a 525M disk, the more the better. Also,
	add a few hundred for the floppy drive, it's extra on the classic,
	and a few hundred for the CD-ROM drive, 99.99% of software for Sun
	ships on CD-ROM these days. A GNU C distribution for the classic
	is available from various anonymous FTP sites.

	It would make a decent home server system with the right additions,
	I'd say about $5k or so total cost.

|> 	The latest issue of Byte has very favorable things to say about
|> 	the new Amiga 3000T-040 and Amiga 4000 systems. These remain in
|> 	my mind odd possibilities, but the multimedia capabilities do
|> 	make them somewhat attractive. How standard is Amiga's UNIX?
|> 
	SVR4.0. Problem is C= itself doesn't appear to be doing anything
	with UNIX. My money for future AmigaUNIX is for some third
	party to provide it or else C= will outsource it to a third
	party to port/support. An '040 based AmigaUNIX would be VERY
	nice! Other possibilitys are Mach and maybe some Linux port although
	I hear 386BSD and Linux have Intel dependancys that would be a bear
	to deal with on a big endian architecture.

	-Rob
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: sd7047787@v9001 (SD7047787)
Subject: Re: Need help on workstation...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:08:00 GMT

In article <19225@mindlink.bc.ca>, Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
writes...
>>     I don't know where I found this, and I haven't had a chance to
>>try it out, but I thought it might be handy some day so I kept it:
>> 
>>--------------------------- cut here ------------------------------
>>/* "@(#) autologout.c by David Dickson" */
>>#include    <stdio.h>

[cut]

COuld u tell me where u get this code and what is does generally?

And I must take this opporunity to thank all the nice ppl who took the trouble 
to send me answers/suggestions to my question posted. Thanx a lot. Pardon me 
that I dun really have the time to reply the mails.
To save the bandwidth, could someone tell me which discussion list I should 
join to discuss the Sun workstation stuff? And anyone out there is familiar 
with CADKEY that runs on SUN? THanx a lot pals!

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From: karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias)
Subject: A3070 drive
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 03:14:39 GMT

In the process of deciding on whether to spring for Amiga Unix, I'm evaluating
several tape drives.  The Viper 250meg seems to be a good choice at 7meg/min,
etc. but I'm wondering if - at the price point of the CBM tape drive (the
A3070) - it isn't worth just going with CBM's solution...  Does anyone have
any preferences, etc. or pet peaves re: one tape drive vs. another?  Also, I
understand that only Wangtek, Sankyo, and Caliper drives are explicitly
supported by CBM's unix install utility and so that's a consideration (rumour
has it that there is a kludge available topermit the Viper to work though -
BTW does anyone know if the A3070 is just a repackaged Wangtek or not?). 
Finally, forgive the ignorance, but what is the deal with QIC-150?  I've heard
that you can read 250 meg tapes in QIC-150 format drives but that it's not
"healthy" to do so...  Is there a QIC-250?  If so, does the same apply about
reading 150s in a QIC-250 drive, etc.  Thanks.


Jim
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From: chris@132.236.236.63 (Christopher A. Wolf)
Subject: Re: PRoblem using DEC RZ-55/56 disks
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In article <mk.0gsd@mkrara.rara.sub.org> mk@mkrara.rara.sub.org (Michael P. Krauss) writes:
> Hi !
>
> I finaly managed to buy a cheap DEC RZ-56 disk with ~650 MB. When I tried to
> install 2.03 the other day I got a complete hang of the system during the
> first Installation steps. When the install-script tries to check the
> available disks, the system hangs.
>
> To be exact, this happens when '/etc/atdevice' is called to return the
> SCSI-unitnumbers of all available disks.
>
> Has anybody managed to get one of those disks to work ? (Keith ?)

I am using an RZ-56 drive under AmigaDOS on an A3000.  When I installed the
drive my Amiga was also refusing to recognize it and HDToolBox would hang
when scanning the SCSI bus.  I am not a Unix guru but this sounds similar
to your problems.

The problem in my case was that RZ-56 drives are normally configured to not
spin-up on power-on but rather to wait until they receive some special
spin-up command from the SCSI host controller.  The A3000's SCSI controller
does NOT send these spin-up commands and thus the drive is never
recognized.

There is NO jumper on the drive to control this spin-up behavior.  Rather,
you need to toggle a flag in the drive's configuration data which is stored
on a special reserved area of the disk itself.  I have a program to do this
under AmigaDOS - running the program once made my problems disappear.
E-mail me if you want it.

I have also heard that a program called RZ (I think) which is available on
some DEC workstations can be used to toggle the drive parameters.  However,
I have not actually seen/used this program.

> Michael Krauss                           ECG112;include <std-disclaimer.h>

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From: sd7047787@v9000 (SD7047787)
Subject: Need help on workstation...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:26:00 GMT

Hi!
I have some problems on workstation. I know this is not the
appropriate place to ask. But pardon me, I really need the answer fast and I 
dunno
which usenet discussion list should I ask. So would some kind souls
out there please help me:

Problem Encounter: In the company I attached, ppl from different departments
log into the few Sun workstations. They left for urgent meetings etc. quite
oftenly without logging out from the station. This cause inconvience to
others who came at random to use the stations.

Solution Requirement: Is there any daemons/programs that came with Sun that I 
can invoke so that
users idled for a period of time will automatically be logged out? I know that 
this is quite
similar to a screen blanker. But I have no idea how to do/program it because it
is also required that the processes status and application programs eg. CAD
program files etc. called/created by the user are saved before the user is 
logged out
of the workstation.

I am no experience user for workstation. I think it might not be possible to
achieve the requirement. But I need advices. Please reply to my address
as far as possible. All suggestions are welcomed! Thanx a million!!!


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From: jbw@ponder.csci.unt.edu (WEST JASON BRUCE)
Subject: Dnet - COMPILATION HELP NEEDED [PLEASE READ AND RESPOND]
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:04:49 GMT

   I am told you guys are the ones to ask - so here goes...

--

     I ftped every version of dnet on the planet - I think I now have the
unix dnet 2.2 files uploaded to my Unix side.  Now, how do I get them to
compile?

My system is ponder.cc.unt.edu - it's a "DYNIX(R) V3.1.4" version system.
I believe I saw that dnet *should* compile on this sort of system.  So,
how do I do it.  Here is what I get from the various attempts at
compiling the files...

from parent dir:

jbw@ponder% make
Make: No arguments or description file.  Stop.
jbw@ponder% cd lib
jbw@ponder% make
        cc -c dnetlib.c
"dnetlib.c", line 24: illegal type combination
*** Error code 1
Make: .  Stop.

more or less the same thing from the client,server, and dnet dirs also.

That "illegal type combination" is:
typedef unsigned short uword;
typedef unsigned long ulong;       <---- this is line 24 I believe
typedef unsigned char ubyte;
typedef struct sockaddr SOCKADDR;

Now, I'm no Unix or C expert - but everything seems more or less in line to
me.  I *really* need dnet up and running - and would be extremely grateful
if some kind soul would help me out.



Thanks a million - in advance.
Ciao...



                                              - Jason