From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETY
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:07:54 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software

<1992Apr5.055741.25141@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) said:
>In <1992Apr4.225950.26567@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@ellis.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Apr3.214523.25335@cs.dal.ca>
>>franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
...

>>Please defend the position that aboriton is a "cop-out".
>   Abortion is a cop-out [in general] for several reasons.
>It is often a choice when you feel you cannot accept the responsibility
>or maturity required to handle a new child. 

Why would you want a person, who doesn't think they are mature enough to
have a child, to have a child?  Isn't that kind of stupid?  "I don't think
your mature enough to drive that car you bought, so as punishment we're
gonna make you drive that car."  Duh, that makes sense.

>                                            It is often a choice when
>you feel you cannot finance a child. 

Good, let's force 'em to have children they can't afford.  That makes the
whole thing much better.

>                                     It is often a choice when you
>just plain ol' don't want the child. 

Even better, let's make sure that more children are born to people who
don't want them.  This will make for a dandy environment for the child to
grow up in.

>                                     Abortion is an easy solution or way
>out from a problem. 

You have never had an abortion, how can you claim it is easy?  I sat with
my wife in the waiting room, then waited for her during the procedure.  I
assure you it was not "easy".

>                    financially, when you get bills, do you just not
>pay them? No, you deal with them. Why is it you feel you can afford
>the money to accomadate your power company, but not a child? granted
>a child isa hell of a lot more expensive than your electric bill,
>but isn't it worth it? 

No.  Not to a lot of people.

>>You say this as if everyone having sex wanted children.  Hate to break
>>it to you, but that ain't so.
>   Oh, jeeez, I know that. That is my entire point. The emphasis wthin
>society is that sex is for pleasure, not reproduction. 

Sex _is_ for pleasure, and by coincidence, for reproduction.

>                                                       I am aware of that, 
>and embarassed by it as well. Although the two should go hand in hand,
>it appears that the fetus, a sentient being or not, is the victim.

Geez, do you really think that the total number of women who have sex in a
year are the ones who have abortions + the ones who give birth?  I got
news for you - pregnancy is not a common result of having sex.  Neither 
are STDs.

Let us know when you get out into the real world for a change.


Gordon
Pro-abortion, Pro-person, Pro-women's-rights and ex-boyfriend of Susan,
Muriel, Cathi, and Nora, and married to the sweetest woman in the world,
and darn proud of it.

-- 

The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
of whatever company you think I work for.  So there, thhhbbbt!
Message to Kodak:  Freedom for Dan Bredy.