From: PIRES@FNAL.FNAL.GOV
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Entrevista de Xanana na Televisao Indonesia
Date: 11 Dec 1992 15:53:31 -0600
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Artigo indonesio sobre a entrevista de Xanana.  Este e' dos textos
que acho que nao conviria "cross-postar" para os grupos indonesios,
se bem que parte desta propaganda acaba por la' chegar.

Rui
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/* Written  1:45 pm  Dec 11, 1992 by apakabar@igc.apc.org in igc:reg.indonesia */
/* ---------- "TVRI's 'Xanana Interview' Ruse" ---------- */


Source: Bernas.
Date: 2 December 92.
Dateline: Not given.
Byline.  Signed 'tv/sjw' at end of story.
Original language: Indonesian.
Scope: Unabridged.
Headline: Xanana: East Timor Belongs to Indonesia
Remark: Reading some extensive quotations from the TVRI interview
  for the first time (as distinct from depending on wire services), it
  appears Xanana's primary means of signalling that he was under duress
  was the total repudiation of all his previously known core views.
  The event must have taken an incredible amount of rehearsal, not
  to mention acting skill by all parties, since earlier footage of Xanana 
  with his guerrilla colleagues show an animated personality who spoke
  at great length with a simple eloquence.  The Bernas story, unremittingly
  and uncharacteristically uncritical, is accompanied by a take from TVRI's 
  "Dunia dalam Berita" ("World News") show which screened the 'interview.'  
  Xanana and East Timor Governor Abilio Soares are seated at a table with
  coffee and cakes.  While a small box near the center of the table 
  partially obscures it, a piece of unfolded paper seems to face Xanana.
  Bernas' caption remarks that Xanana "looked fresh and a little fat."
  "While replying to the governor's questions, Xanana, relaxed, enjoyed
  the snacks and cup of coffee served in front of him."  However, the
  photograph clearly shows a very full coffee cup.


  "I regret it."  That short sentence fell from the mouth of the chief
Fretilin security disrupter Jose Alexandre Gusmao, better known as Xanana
Gusmao, 46, in an interview with East Timor Governor Abilio Jose Osorio
Soares.
  The interview screen by TVRI last night once more proved that Xanana
is nothing.  He is no great figure proper for a myth.  If his followers have
mythologized him, that myth truly collapsed when he was captured by security
personnel.
  Xanana did not only express regret.  He apologized to all East Timorese
residents, particularly those who suffered due to the November 12 Incident.
  He who had wandered for 17 years in the forests of East Timor had finally
come to his senses and admitted that what he had done was not right. It
was wrong.  There was proof.  He made an appeal and asked all Fretilin
sympathizers in East Timor to surrender immediately at the closest guard
posts.
  Not only that.  The former War Commander of the security disrupters
asked Fretilin people to join in developing Indonesia, join in developing
East Timor, and join in adjusting the problems of life faced by the East
Timorese people up till now.
  Xanana also asked all Fretilin sympathizers abroad to forget immediately
their struggle which lad now lasted over 17 years.  He hoped they would
join in thinking about and helping with the problems faced by the East
Timorese people up till now and join in assisting in the best way in the
development of East Timor.
  Xanana, who was being interviewed by Governor Abilio, his classmate in 
lower secondary school tens of years ago, spoke in Portuguese with no
aversion to admitting the contemporary facts -- that integration and
development has very much raised the standard of living of the East
Timorese people.
  Wearing a white shirt, he even admitted that East Timor was part of and
belonged to Indonesia and Indonesia belonged to East Timor.  "East Timor
and its people belong to Indonesia," he confirmed.
  In that calm and way he replied to all Abilio's questions.  He seemed
fresh and a little fat.  While speaking he repeatedly enjoyed the snacks
and cup of coffee.
  On this occasion Xanana also said that he now felt safer than when he
was amidst the East Timorese public.  He admitted he could not describe
how his activities had made things difficult for so many people.  He was
also very disappointed with Fretilin people abroad who were now still
using the name of the party in their every action, while in fact they
were only seeking personal profit.
  As an example, he accused Ramos Horta, saying that he always sought
personal profit in the name of the party.
  Xanana's name began to be much mentioned after he replaced the killed
Nicolao Lobato as Fretilin leader.  With a journalism education obtained
in Australia and his military training, he entered the forest in December
1975 to oppose integration.
  Before entering the forest, he lived tranquilly with his wife Emilia
who is now in Australia with their two children, Nito and Zenilda Gusmao.
His adventure ended after his capture by security personnel on November 20
in Lahane, Dili.  "Xanana is nothing."  That was the comment of ABRI
Information Center Head Brig. Gen. Nurhadi Purwosaputro a little while
ago.