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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: PBA Schedule
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78D5442E9082631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 16:13:38 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:20:06 GMT

In article <1k4rmvINNjv5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Jerry A. Jelinek,
ak331@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>                        1993 PBA Winter Tour Schedule


Thanks Jerry for posting the National Tour schedule..if anyone wants
me to post the Southern Regional schedule, let me know and I'll post it.



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Aki Damme                    "How come the best ball
The World Bank                for me is ALWAYS the
Washington D.C.               one I didn't bring, or the
PBA #2294                     one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Comments welcome...
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 11:20:55 PST

To make a short (NOT!) story boring...
Last Sunday, a meeting was called for officers & capitans for my league.
(Making us miss shadow balls! :-((( )  & the contretemps were...
Team A: going to the Showboat Invitational (they always shoot +700 against us)
Team B: just some local yokels (who usually get +150 pins handicap)

Team A schedules with team B to meet on *the next, next* Sunday to make up the
games that they'll miss.  They show up, & no one's there, & our rules say they
can't bowl unopposed, so they wait until our 5pm league & file a protest.
Team B showed up on the normal league Sunday, & bowled.  They claim that they
didn't agree to bowl at a different time..."We can't shoot 6 games in one day!"

Our league isn't bowling next Sunday due to some stupid game on tv, but the 2
teams seem to have a conflict on getting together, because of scheduling.
What would you do?
Issues at hand:  Should team B's games be nullified?  Should team A take a
forfeit?  If they can't get together within the specified time period, should
both teams forfeit?  Should I join another league? (I'm VP & Team captain in
this one)
One of the most difficult things about scheduling make-ups or pre-bowls is:
THERE AIN'T NOTHING ELSE TO DO IN MODESTO! So Sunday through Friday  all 52
lanes are booked solid for leagues until after 9pm, & the kids  (2-22) have
all 52 lanes from 9am to 12 noon, on Saturdays, & then the blind league is
until 2:30pm.  Seniors, wheelchair & special olympics use alot of the lanes
during the weekdays...sigh...(Big $$$ for someone!)
I personally think moving might be an option? :-)))
Pamela
From: wayne@sw.stratus.com (Wayne Newberry)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
Subject: Re: Why nervous ?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:42:00 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: becks.cac.stratus.com

David,

Thanks for the idea on a new practice game.....I'll give it a try.
Sounds like something that I will be adding to my standard practice
sessions.

Wayne
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: WHY?
Organization: the vms company
Distribution: uk
Date: 21 JAN 93 09:45:42 EST


re: (Rob Spray) .......
>>1. Fishing
>>2. Darts
>Having done both, on both sides of The Pond, I can categorically
>state, that they can both be conducted whilst beer is imbibed.
>>What a bunch of fat, lazy wankers we are.......... DISCUSS
>Well, I find the hairy palms affect my throw! B-)  (Some of the Yanks
>reading this just went, "Huh?".)

Rob,

	I hadn't realized you might be an ex-pat from merry olde; but, yes, 
	I did normally assume you might have been a wanker........especially
	when it came to darts....now we know for certain!!!  ;^) :-p  8-o :-}

	In other darting news, local Boston area leagues are about to start
	up in the next 2 weeks. Any out-of-town ringers want to sign up?
	You could pop in some night for a quick game on your next business
	trip and have a pint or 12 before you catch the midnight flight out
	of town. It's so much better than watching because all the boards
	are reserved for league play only. come on now, I'd do the same for
	you.  :-}

-gt
From: dcampbel@neumann.une.edu.au (King Arthur)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
Subject: Re: Why nervous ?
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:02:15 GMT

wayne@sw.stratus.com (Wayne Newberry) writes:

>I agree with the comment that there is a big difference
>between practicing at home and competing.  One thing that
>is worth trying is to imagine, when you are practicing,
>that your next time at the line is very important.

>Let's say you are playing 301 to practice getting on and
>going out.  If you imagine that you are playing against an
>opponent who will almost certainly get on in 6 darts or less,
>then you will probablly concentrate better on your first two
>times at the line.  Similarly, if you make believe that you
>"must take it out this time" then you will avoid the pitfall
>of just throwing darts mechanically, and not getting the 
>full benefit of your practice sessions.

>The general statement would be to introduce as much tension
>into your practice sessions as you can simulate, and make 
>good use of your practice sesssions in learning, as best
>you can, to control it there.  Of course, there will always
>be added benefit to competing, and learning to control your
>nervousness in real situations.

>Wayne


Here is a little game I used to play when practising by myself,
good for the confidence too.
To put it simply choose 301, 401, 501 or whatever and then how
ever many sets of darts it would take you to go out in.
eg I usually take 10 sets playing 401 because it is a nice round
figure. Anyway, you now play a best of three against an
imaginary opponent. Play best of three or whatever suits you best.
If you win you then progress to 9 sets of darts and so on.
Eventually you are going to lose though!
When you do lose you can have the choice on whether to go back
to the beginning or back one set of darts.
eg from 8 sets to 9 sets and so forth.

David
dcampbel@neumann.une.edu.au

Also, it really confuses someone if they watch you practice and
are keeping score in your head and suddenly start going elsewhere 
for doubles!
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Subject: Re: Tech notes wanted!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:52:07 GMT


OK, technical information wanted, here is a little.

I have just finished reverse-engineering the Survivor Shot pistol unit.
I have not done the sensor/vibrator widget yet.

Some of you may have found out about this item from playing the guns; I
found it in theory by examining the circuit and then got a couple of
guns to test the theory, which is true.

If you are firing your SS gun (and the effect is most notable in the
rapid fire burst mode) and you take a hit, the gun stops shooting
IMMEDIATELY and it will NOT shoot again until you get off the trigger!
There is a considerable delay while survivor shot goes through the
"HIT" bells-and-whistle routine.  Only when that has ended can you
start shooting again.

Those who have disconnected the SS sensor from the gun will obviously
not suffer the problem.  Our playing group has taken to using WOW sensors
separate, and given this condition, it begins to make sense.

In terms of WHY this happens, it appears from my early perusal of the circuit
that ANY audio generated from the micro causes the micro to be RESET.

(In case you didn't know, Survivor Shot uses a 4-bit microcontroller)

Said RESET *immediately* aborts any other instruction that is in process
in the micro, including that to fire.

It is also true that an incoming "valid hit" from the sensor unit
nails the hardware INTERRUPT on the micro.....  

Without having put the o-scope into the circuit yet, I cannot tell
for certain whether it is actually the INTERRUPT or the RESET that
does the termination (although the manufacturers manual for the micro
does say that a RESET will terminate ongoing processes) but since
a sensor INTERRUPT will cause the audio bells-and-whistles, it may be a moot
point.

the upshot of it:  WOW guns used against SS guns have a tactic.  Nail the
SS sensor often enough and the guy will barely be able to get off a shot.
With the WOW gun and sensor having no connections, the WOW players can
still shoot even if taking hits.

I'll have more later.....

Duane
From: mcsbc2msd@dct.ac.uk (El thicko)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Re: Tech notes wanted!
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:08:23 GMT
Organization: on some remote unknown terminal...

In article <wb9omc.727545049@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>, wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) writes:
> 
> 	Stick around.  I am working on a technical guide for lasertag
> stuff, and if I get some permission from Tomy (the makers of HASBROs
> Electronic Survivor Shot) I'll be able to publish some tech info on THAT,
> too.
> 
> 	(the folks in Japan are thinking about it......)
> 
> Duane

	Well when it comes out, *please* let me know....
	Sounds like it will be very interesting...
	[i.e. the kind of thing I am after as well!]
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From: leafey@mmodns.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Technical info sources/repair info?
Summary: Where can I get information on repairing Laser Tag stuff?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:00:26 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

I have two Laser Tag sets, but the sensor in one set has gone dead.  Is there 
a source of information (schematics, etc.) on these?  I'm a fair hand with 
digital stuff, but I am just a bit leery of digging in without a schematic as 
I haven't seen Laser Tag stuff in the stores for a LONNNNG time.

				TNX,
					Jay

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Digital Equipment Corporation		Compu$erve: 70105,1102
Memphis, TN				GEnie: J.LEAFEY
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From: 9217088@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: test
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:52:39 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


This is a test
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Re: Technical info sources/repair info?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:14:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

leafey@mmodns.enet.dec.com writes:

>I have two Laser Tag sets, but the sensor in one set has gone dead.  Is there 
>a source of information (schematics, etc.) on these?  I'm a fair hand with 
>digital stuff, but I am just a bit leery of digging in without a schematic as 
>I haven't seen Laser Tag stuff in the stores for a LONNNNG time.

	The company that made LazerTag, Worlds of Wonder, has been belly
up for a while.

	However, all is not lost.  I have reverse engineered the 
StarSensor (r) and can probably either help you or do the repairs myself.

	Give me a description of what the sensor does or doesn't do
with emphasis on:

1) Have you made sure the battery is good?

2) When you power the unit up does it initialize normally, i.e., all sounds
	and LED functions act like they should?

3) Will it score a hit from ANY source?

4) Will it score a hit in bright sunlight from the sun alone?

5) Can you hear the "heartbeat" of the sensor and do the red "chase" LED's
	work?

About the only thing that will be a real pain is if the custom 
microcontroller chip is dead.  If this is the case, it will either have
to wait until you can get a surplus IC from a sensor that is dead for
another reason, OR, you can just acquire a new (used) sensor.
Otherwise, most everything else is pretty much off-the-shelf kind of
parts.

Another seemingly common failure is corrosion in the internal variable
resistors.  This will cause a loss of signal and will make the sensor
just sit there and act fairly normal but not score a hit.  Often the
variable resistors will respond to the use of a good electronic contact
cleaner BUT BUT BUT if you don't get the things set correctly *after*
cleaning the sensor may not work because it is out of adjustment!
Sometimes one of the VR's may need replacement, but such parts are
cheap and fairly easy to find.  Even after replacement, though, 
adjustment will be required to get the sensor back into spec.

Let me know the answer to the above questions....

Duane
wb9omc@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu
From: lynx@terapin.com (Debbie Caraway)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Hello?
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:04:06 PST
Organization: BBS

I've just been checking out this newsgroup.  Hmm, I'm into archery and I like
laser tag.  The only place  I get to see it or borrow gear is at sci-fi
conventions.  I don't think they make the kind I'm use to here anymore.  Um,
after reading a few post, I'm beginning to wonder if I'm in the right country?

@>-->---Debbie
From: c_snet@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Nude Paint-ball in Texas?!?
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:01:19 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello fReAkS !!!!!
I just knew that YOU were going to read thiarticle since it had such a
HEADBANGING headline. I'm a Exchange-student from Norway and I am staying in
Nacogdoches/Texas and I'm just wondering if there are anybody out there that
has a paintball society in East-Texas. I've tryed Paint-ball once before (in
Norway) and I really loved it. PLEASE contact me !!!

           The Guy with big (paint)balls KNUT RYAN
From: tomm@crhc.uiuc.edu (Thomas B Maciukenas)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Places to play in Central Illinois?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:47:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: lasso.crhc.uiuc.edu

Hey, all you paintball maniacs!!  A group of us beginners here at
the University of Illinois want to play paintball but don't know
of any places to play.  Can any of you recommend any places in the
Champaign-Urbana area (basically East Central Illinois)?  Also,
what are the things to look for when selecting a good place?  And
what are normal prices for things like:  fees, gun & goggle rental,
paint balls, etc.? 

Thanks Much!

(Please reply by e-mail.  If there's interest, I'll post a summary.)

-Tom
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball,rec.sport.paintball
From: justin@seas.smu.edu (Justin Anderson)
Subject: Re: Gas vs liquid CO2
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:57:04 GMT

In article <C1KotA.Mz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hauschil@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Silent One) writes:
>I have another question.  The only stuff used around here is gas CO2 and I'm
>having trouble on getting any good information on liquid CO2.  I know that
>the liquid expands in the gun and then is used.  Is gas better than liquid ?
>More efficient or convienent ?  The field here in West Lafayette isn't much and
>haven't been to any other fields that are in reasonable driving range.
> 
>                               Jeff
>
>

   As a rule, when you use liquid, you lose efficiency.  That is primarily
   because part of the energy from the liquid to gas change is lost.  But,
   liquid is more consistant in cold(and rapid firing) conditions.  Also,
   there is the anti-siphon bottle which will allow no liquid to enter the
   gun.  This type of bottle approaches the max you can get per bottle.(
   By figuring in pressure and the weight of the ball)  Like in the Pro-
   series auto-cocker, you can get over 700 shots on a good fill with 
   descent weather.  I guess you just need to find what is best for you!

   Justin
   justin@seas.smu.edu

Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: 585110914@vill.edu (Lonely Wolf)
Subject: gun recomendations\
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Villanova University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:27:00 GMT

i own a Phantom w/progressive rifling done by the All-Americans and it is the
best pump gun i have ever used... as far as the apex goes, if well tuned, it is
an efficient gun on the level of a bush master  which is also an excellent pump
if you are looking at the gun SERIOUSLY i recomend the phantom and the sterling
as well as the guy above me... i would not suggest the apex, but it is a good 
gun... (i do not like apex hardware)  the bush masters a great....  avoid PMI
products aside from modified PMI-3 (to semi auto) and the VM-68 which are
excellent... most other unmodified PMIs cannot compete with phantoms and such
of course... the Sniper II and the Auto Cocker (semi-auto version of the Sniper)
by Bud Orr and Wor Game Products are two of the BEST on the market...
REMEBER... one MUST maintain one's piece....  or else even the Best-of-the-Best,
sucks....

Coyote Nizhoni
Highlanders of Pa (utterly defunct...giggle)
From: follick@hydra.unm.edu (Joshua Follick)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: pmi3 / vm68
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:58:05 GMT
Organization: Paintball Underground
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.unm.edu

In article <1993Jan17.221454.24912@ultb.isc.rit.edu> bep9518@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Does anybody out there know why there are both the vm-68 sold and the pmi3?
>I've owned one, my friend the other, and they're almost exactly the same.
>Also, has anyone put out a piece since the pro-am?
>                                                  T.D'struct.
>                                                  T.D'structo.

   The PMI-III is no longer in production. The VM-68 is the
PMI-III with a few minor, but nice improvements. Since it
is so similar, the VM-68 is often called the PMI-III.

-- 
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Paintball is the sport of the 90s, and Lipservice Crew is the Team!!!
                        Team Lipservice Crew Motto:
                            "They Suck, We Rule"
From: rotheroe@convex.com (Dave Rotheroe)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Promaster Barrels
Keywords: barrel Promaster
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:52:41 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


>Can anyone reccomend a good barrel for the Promaster SI?  I'm looking
>into the Smart Parts barrel but a friend of mine reccomended the Armson
><sp> barrels instead.  Which of the two are better in terms of range
>and accuracy?  Though I think that the Armson is aesthetically more
>pleasing to the eye. :-)

[ I broke the single line down 'cause my screen isn't that wide! ]

How about for the AutoMag?  I received my new stock AutoMag from Draco last
week, and tried it out last weekend.  I'm really happy with it - the AutoMag
is probably the nicest paintgun I've played with, and certainly worth the
few extra dollars compared to things like the ProAm, VM68, and F1/F2 (of
which I've played with all but the F2, which is essentially an F1).  All
that said, I couldn't / can't afford the Smart Parts barrel right then /
now, but hope to get one in a couple of months.  For the Automag, is
anything "better" than the Smart Parts barrel?

On a side note, I was really pleased with the service and prices from Draco
($375/gun sure beats $450+tax local).  They (he) went out of their (his) way
for me.  When I asked, I also heard good things about Hamilton Hobbies
(John's company), but he couldn't get the stock AutoMag for a couple of
weeks, and Draco could.  I'd recommend either of these guys that I learned
of from this group for some of the major purchases, but I also recommend
supporting your local shop for reasonably priced misc stuff and paint.

One final note, the last line of my sig really applied to last Saturday's
games, with the converse also true.

==================================================================8--<
Dave Rotheroe                rotheroe@convex.com              DoD#0045
CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX 75083-3851, (214) 497-4512
Death is a reward for being responsible.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball,rec.sport.paintball
From: hauschil@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Silent One)
Subject: Gas vs liquid CO2
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:36:45 GMT

I have another question.  The only stuff used around here is gas CO2 and I'm
having trouble on getting any good information on liquid CO2.  I know that
the liquid expands in the gun and then is used.  Is gas better than liquid ?
More efficient or convienent ?  The field here in West Lafayette isn't much and
haven't been to any other fields that are in reasonable driving range.
 
                               Jeff
From: memo1993@terapin.com (Guillermo Talamantes)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Nude Paint-ball in Texas?!?
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:46:10 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1993Jan23.010119.2531@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, c_snet@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
writes:
>Hello fReAkS !!!!!
>I just knew that YOU were going to read thiarticle since it had such a
>HEADBANGING headline. I'm a Exchange-student from Norway and I am staying in
>Nacogdoches/Texas and I'm just wondering if there are anybody out there that
>has a paintball society in East-Texas.

     NUDE PAINTBALL?!  Guess what guy, it's already happened!
About a year ago I saw an ad in APG addressing a special event in Florida (I
think that's where it was). The notice read...

"Nude Paintball, Males $25, Women FREE, Spectators $15" 
  
     It was to be held in some indoor arena and players were to be completely
NUDE exept for panty hose, briefs, or jock-straps. I know, it sounds CRAZY, but
it was in the "Upcomming Events" section of, I think, APG. No, I did not go,
California to Florida is too damn far even for this event. And for you horny
little jr. high kids, you had to be at least 18 to get in. Anyway, I think I'll
keep my tiger-stripes ON! Later...



        KEEP
              THOSE
                     BALLS
                            FLYING!!!



LONG LIVE THE PRO/AM!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: hriczad2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Tony Hriczo)
Subject: Paintball Guns and Accesories Cheap!
Summary: Willing to beat any retail gun price
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: alt.sport.paintball
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:16:43 GMT

	Greetings all Paintball lovers! I am now willing to sell, exchange,
trade, and overall beat all prices on paintball articles or accesories.
Here are just a few of the normal prices and deals I'll offer, don't
be afraid to ask for multiple quanity discounts:
ILLustrator..$379     68 Automag...$415     Pro Am.......$369
Pro Master...$379     Apex Elite...$349     Rasorback 4..$195
Sterling STD.$500     Auto Cocker..$375     Sl-68 II.....$259
68 Special...$340    and Lots more.....
Hot Set up:   ILLustrator, Scott PAN, Dominator 230, Proline Bacpac...$489
mail me for lowest price at: hriczad2@sage.cc.purdue.edu
			Thanks for your time
				Tony