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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Deutsche Welle/ German TV NEW
From: axgolinski@ualr.edu
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:13:40 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

On the 1st of November the German television "Deutsche Welle TV" started it's
transmission to North and South America.
The station now broadcasts for 14 hours via satellite. For viewers in Europe
this is more than double the viewing time, which until now, amounted to six
hours.
In North and South America, those who are intersted and who have their own
satellite antenna, can now, for the first time, find out immediately, what is
going on in Germany and the rest of Europe, on a daily basis. The program
travels in the direction of North and South America via satellite, the
INTELSAT-K satellite and can still be viewed in Europe on the usual frequency
of the EUTELSAT II-F1. INTELSAT-K is a KU-Band satellite, which is not very
common yet among direct broadcasters but will become soon. In order to make
direct broadcasting possible for individuals, the 14-hour program is also sent
via the new SATCOM C-4, a high power satellite, which only requires a
a dish size of between 1 metre and 1.50 metres in the traditional C-Band.
Parts of the program, that is sent in German, English and Spanish, is able to
be viewed via domestic television stations and cable networks. This was already
the case with PBS stations or ME/U with "Sports Report" and other programs. In
the meantime, there is a definite agreement with the MindExtension University
- The Education Network (ME/U). The station is taking over the German and
English Jourmal (Daily News) as well as another three and a half hours of
DW television programs. There are many promising  talks in progress with other
partners in the USA, Canada and Latin America.
Deutsche Welle has also been broadcasting to Africa, Asia and Australia since
the 28th of September 1992 for two hours a day via two INTELSAT satellites, in
order to make German television accessible there, with the help of local
television stations.

A  FREE monthly program guide of Deutsche Welle TV can be recieved by
writing to this address:

Deutsche Welle
Postfach 10 04 44
"W"-5000 Koeln 1

Germany

If you have any questions about the program, or technical questions write
to the same address or call the Washington office of Deutsche Welle:
(202) 393 7427

Andreas Golinski (AXGOLINSKI@ualr.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Luxembourg
From: frank@husc9.harvard.edu (Paulo Frank)
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:10:19 EST
Distribution: soc.culture.europe
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Does anyone have any info on bulletin boards/e-mail services in
Luxembourg.  Reply either to this group or to me at
	frank@husc.harvard.edu
Thanks,
Paulo
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Arxid stats for the last two weeks (regular post)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 08:22:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

This week's stats show our feathered friend in the #11 spot, with
170 articles posted, 871 KB of volume, and accounting for less than
0.1 percent of traffic.

  11   170     871.4  0.1%   sera@zuma.UUCP  (Serdar Argic)
                              14% soc.culture.europe
                              14% soc.culture.greek
                              14% talk.politics.mideast
                              13% soc.culture.turkish
                              13% soc.history
                              10% talk.politics.soviet
                              5% soc.culture.soviet

Surprisingly, he has stopped posting in his home group of soc.culture.turkish.
Any explanation/theory will be appreciated. I am anxious... Also, today's
pick had 29 Arxidies (articles) in one shot.  

Spiros
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             |  o\__    | Ne mutlu anti-Argic diyene? | Beef: Real Food 
}}            \  __/ ___| Ne mutlu anti-Mutlu diyene! |       for Real People
}}}    ____   / /    \          (Old Turkish Proverb) |
}}}}__/}}}}\_/ /      \_______________________________| Feathers: Real Clothes
}}/  }}}}}}    \                                               for real Chicken
  \   }}}}   }}/                                              
   \__ }}____}/        Spiros Triantafyllopoulos        
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.nordic
From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Subject: Re: Non - IndoEuropean la
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:28:09 GMT

In article <TORKEL.92Dec17180935@bast.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:

>In article <BzBIry.4st@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> warrenc@bcstec.ca.boeing.com 
>(Cherie Warren) writes:

>   >To start another thread: what European (Indo- or not) language is
>   >considered most difficult?  Russian, Czech, and Slovak vie for the top
>   >honors, but other languages have their intricacies.

>  There is a standard answer to this kind of question: no language is more
>difficulty than any other language. On the other hand, speakers of a
>particular language will find some foreign languages harder to learn than
>others.

But surely the Standard Answer applies to children only, ie, to first-
language acquisition.  For adults, the problem is, of course, how does one 
quantify 'difficulty'?  Off hand, I would surmise that the fewer cases, 
genders, tones, and irregularities (of the go-went-gone type), the easier 
the language is to learn.  So Spanish would be easier than German, eg (at 
least for someone who knew no other Germanic or Romance languages).
Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:10820 news.admin.policy:898 soc.culture.greek:11891
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,news.admin.policy,soc.culture.greek
Subject: The relays clicked, and...
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


A.R.G.I.C.'s relays clicked, and the following output was produced:
>>revisionist. Tempting AIs into posting is a fruitbat-laden experiment
>>which
>>
>The response of a true intellectual. You must review your comments for
>any of us to take you seriously.
>
>"These European Dashnags, with headquarters in Berlin, appealed to,

 Vintage ARGIC/MUTLU. Enough to make one wish that a stray hydrogen
bomb falls on Chicago.

 Tempting MUTLU to attack has become a popular sport in the past few
months here in the soc.culture.* groups, producing exitement similar to
that of a bull-fighter tempting the bull. As always, the bull
(in this case, Mutlu) charges, makes a fool of himself, and the
spectacle is repeated the following day with the bull showing no sign of
learning anything from his previous mistakes.

 Mutlu/argic has in the past few weeks responded (among others) to:

- Postings about turkey (the thangsgiving bird type), and the relation
of thangsgiving turkey eating to ritual animal sacrifice.

- Any amount of articles posted about completely unrelated topics, for
as long as they had a "Mutlu Fodder" line at the bottom, or any mention
of keywords like "Cyprus", "Aegean", "poultry", etc.

- Articles posted entirely in Greek about the proper way to translate
Information Science terms from English to Greek. (How appropriate that a
computer program would have an opinion on the subject).

Michael

PS:
For those unfamiliar with Turkish AI (Artificial Insulter) terminology:
 ARGIC: Automatic Racist Garbage Information Creator
 MUTLU: Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit
                                                                                                         
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Subject: test
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 15:04:29 GMT

test
From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Import/Export Research
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:30:23 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to any European country? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in those countries about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

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From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas everyone!
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:38:10 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <725421620.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP> Lola.Lee@p872.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Lola Lee) writes:
<On 12/23/92, viznyuk was overheard saying to All: 
<  vk> To congratulate this honorable audience with Papist "Christmas"
<  vk> especially when Ms. Paloneva is well aware that the bulk of this forum
<  vk> are either Jews or Orthodox Christians is unbearable.
<
<I don't care what you think, but we Orthodox Christians, at least in
<the United States, celebrate Christmas on December 25.

One shouldn't forget that, while there is only one Catholic Church in
the world (and only one Pope), there are many Orthodox Churches.  The
Russian Orthodox Church happens to celebrate Christmas a fortnight
later than many others, such as, say, the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.

-- 
 `D'ye mind tellin me whit the two o ye are gaun oan aboot?' (The Glasgow
Ivan A Derzhanski  (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk; iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)    Gospel)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:10853 talk.politics.soviet:10032
From: stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Happy end for the ESTONIAN question (Was: Est
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:26:35 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Dec24.225605.9076@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Michael Kagalenko (mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec20.175931.24194@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>>>You are making a very serious mistake if you are equalling the
>>>Estonian diaspora with the Serbo-Croat one. The former are ....
>>(educated ones, the latter "lumpen-proletariat")
>>
>>Not the point. Education do not necessarily reduce bad instincts ( as 
>>we can see in this group :)
>
>Then you are missing something quite important. Mikhail Verbitsky
>tried to depict the Estonian diaspora as a source of trouble by
>equating them with the Croatian diaspora who he blamed for the
>war in ex-Yugoslavia (but not the Serbian diaspora!). I pointed

Would you mind elaborating this?  
Do you think that Serbian diaspora had the same influence on 
Miloshevic as Croatian diaspora on Tudjman?  Interesting.

>out that the part of the Yugoslavian of the diaspora which have

Unfortunately, much of Serbian diaspora is still not allowed to go back.
Vojvoda Momcilo Djujic and his whole "Dinarska Divizija" and 
all "Italian Chetnicks" are still on the list of war criminals in 
Yugoslavia ( the most unfortunate ). 

>returned for the war includes significant percentage of persons
>of criminal background.
>-- 

Well, Arkan, your favourite, lived in Belgrade for few years before
this war started.


>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
>Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.

Milan
From: Lola.Lee@p872.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Lola Lee)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Merry Christmas everyone!
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 19:36:43 -0500

On 12/23/92, viznyuk was overheard saying to All: 

 
  vk> This is the worst kind of abuse I ever heard on this list !!!  To
  vk> congratulate this honorable audience with Papist "Christmas"
  vk> especially when Ms. Paloneva is well aware that the bulk of this forum
  vk> are either Jews or Orthodox Christians is unbearable. We all, as one,
  vk> should rebuff the encroachments of pagans on our sacred feelings !
  vk> 
  vk>     
  vk> 
  vk> Serega


I don't care what you think, but we Orthodox Christians, at least in the United
States, celebrate Christmas on December 25.  I don't see what your problem . . .
I think your attitude (shared with certain other people on this planet) is the
reason why this world is a mess today.
From: mtf@vipunen.hut.fi (dalens ande)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Most difficult language
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:06:29 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In <1992Dec19.202113.10620@cs.tu-berlin.de> wolfi@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Schwanke) writes:

>4 cases Latin like? Latin has 6, so has Russian. Finnish has 12 (or more?)
>cases, is non Indoeuropean, therefore especially hard to learn for most people
>on the net (apologies to you Fins out there :) and has quite an impressive set
>of umlauts. 

16 cases, actually.

>I vote for Finnish.

Justifiably so; finnish grammatics is something even I haven't quite figured
out yet (and I'm a native speaker :-). But then, I've never considered know-
ledge of grammatics an important factor in learning a language (which is why
I frequently manage to make some very stupid mistakes in every language I
know :).

I remember having heard that Basque is incredibly difficult and differs 
greatly from all other european languages (is it indo-european?). Don't know
exactly why it is supposed to be so difficult, perhaps someone could elabo-
rate...
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Macedonia: Reality versus History.
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:41:22 GMT
Organization: Facts 'r' Us
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <9301031650@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>
>So the Greek educational system is also in a shambles, 'tamtam.'
>This is the same mentality which allows Greeks to rationalize that 
>Cyprus is a Greek Island. No history book shows that it ever was. It 
>belonged to the Ottoman Turks 'lock, stock and barrel' for a period of 
>well over 300 years. In fact, prior to the Turks' acquisition of it, 

So did Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Iraq, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, the
Vardar region et caetera et caetera. Are you advocating the revival
of the Ottoman Empire? Or asserting a Turkish claim to all territory
ruled by the Ottomans?


>following bloody naval battles with the Venetians in 1570 AD, the
>island of Cyprus belonged, invariably, to several nations: The 
                            ^^^^^^^^^^
Interesting -- what is your evidence that Cyprus had never been
self-governed prior to the Turkish conquest (which was, by the way,
in 1571)?


>Assyrians, the Sumerians, the Phoenicians, the Egyptians, the Ottoman 
>Turks, of course in that order, owned it as their territory. But, it 

One notes the absence from this list of the fact that Cyprus was in
classical times covered by Greek poleis; not to mention the absence
of the fact that Cyprus was under Roman and Byzantine rule for more
than a thousand years.

>has never been the possession of the government of Greece - not even 
>for one day - in the history of the world. Moreover, Cyprus is
>located 1500 miles from the Greek mainland, but only 40 miles from 
>Turkiye's southern coastline. Following the Greek Cypriot attempt


What's this got to do with anything?

>to annex the island to Greece with the aid of the Greek army, Turkiye
>intervened by using her legal right given by two international agreements. 
>Turkiye did it for the frequently and conveniently forgotten people of the
>island, Turkish Cypriots. For those Turkish Cypriots whose grandparents
>have been living on the island since 1571. 

Bloody old grandparents if you ask me.


>
>Serdar Argic

Is Argic the Turkish word for 'arschloch'?



-- 
Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar
Subject: Import/Export research
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:24:45 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to or from Hungry? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in that country about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

********************************************************************************
Internet Addresses:
			z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
       			    
				   or
			   
			   sfa1@jetson.uh.edu

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From: KADAR@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar
Subject: AGORA-SCMPOST RFE/RL Daily Report 22 DEC, 1992 (excerpts)
Date: 28 Dec 1992 10:13:13 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

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with one line:
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"VISEGRAD TRIANGLE" TRADE PACT SIGNED. In Cracow on 21 December
Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary signed an agreement gradually
to start regularizing trade.  By the year 2001 all national
barriers are to be removed and trade among the signatories will
proceed according to the same regulations prevailing in the
European Community. The agreement will be adapted to embrace the
Czech Republic and Slovakia after they split on 1 January.
Meanwhile, after receipt of an honorary degree from Wroclaw
University, former Czechoslovak President Vaclav Havel told
reporters that close cooperation between Poland and the two new
states would benefit the entire region and give all of them a
better chance to join the EC. Western agencies carried the
stories.  (Charles Trumbull, RFE/RL, Inc.)
 
SLOVAKIA PLANS TO PRIVATIZE GABCIKOVO. Slovakia hopes to persuade
foreign investors to buy shares in the controversial Gabcikovo
hydroelectric dam project.  In an interview with Reuters published
on 21 December, Ivan Carnogursky, the general director of the
company that built the dam, said that Slovakia is ready to
"privatize Gabcikovo." He said the country needs about $230
million to complete the project.  In his words, foreign companies
will be offered to buy shares "from one to 100 percent."
Carnogursky said that Slovakia will not be able to finish the
Gabcikovo project without foreign investment.  (Jiri Pehe, RFE/RL,
Inc.)
 
ANTALL REBUFFS ILIESCU ON SUMMIT.  MTI reports that for the third
time Hungarian Prime Minister Jozsef Antall has rejected Romanian
President Ion Iliescu's suggestion for a personal meeting. Antall
said that meeting for meeting's sake would not be productive but
urged that ministerial-level meetings continue. (Karoly
Okolicsanyi, RFE/RL, Inc.)
 
The RFE/RL Daily Report is produced by the RFE/RL Research
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar
Subject: AGORA-SCMPOST RFE/RL Daily Report 23 DEC, 1992 (excerpts)
Date: 28 Dec 1992 11:37:48 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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CENTRAL EUROPEAN FOREIGN MINISTERS IN WASHINGTON.  Austrian TV
reported on 22 December on the visit to the US capital by the
foreign ministers of Austria, Hungary, Poland, and Slovenia. The
four met with the outgoing president, but above all with key
figures in Congress. The ministers stressed the need to end the
war in the former Yugoslavia quickly before it spreads and
involves other Balkan countries, and warned that Russia might
adopt a more pro-Serbian policy if the war drags on.  Discussion
topics included enforcing the no-fly zone over Bosnia and setting
up safe havens for Bosnian refugees. Elsewhere, the Croatian
weekly Globus on 18 December quoted Prof. Mirjana Kasapovic as
warning that the growing influx of Muslim refugees could pose a
long-term social and political problem for Croatia.  "If the
Muslims become the Palestinians of Europe," she said, "then
Croatia could become Europe's Jordan." (Patrick Moore, RFE/RL,
Inc.)
 
ANTALL IS CHOICE AS HDF CHAIRMAN. MTI reports that Prime Minister
Jozsef Antall is the overwhelming favorite to be reelected
chairman of the ruling Hungarian Democratic Forum at its January
1993 party conference.  With some 90% of the grassroots
organizations having submitted their nominations, Antall leads
with 94% of the votes. Istvan Csurka, the controversial former HDF
vice president, garnered only 3%.  An HDF spokesman said the party
has also rejected to split the responsibilities of party chairman
and prime minister.  (Karoly Okolicsanyi, RFE/RL, Inc.)
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar
From: "peter pfeifer" <peter.pfeifer@canrem.com>
Subject: import/export research
Reply-To: "peter pfeifer" <peter.pfeifer@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:40:39 EST

Hi,
Why don't you contact the Hungarian Trade Commission neraest to you. I
think there is one in most major American cities: New York, Chicago,
L.A. Or a Hungarian Consulate if there is no Trade Commission.
 Happy New Year
Peter Pfeifer
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar
From: "peter pfeifer" <peter.pfeifer@canrem.com>
Subject: boldog karacsonyt
Reply-To: "peter pfeifer" <peter.pfeifer@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 24 Dec 92 02:40:14 EST

to: AHEDER@BCM.TMC.EDU

Bandi,
orulok, hogy tudtunk beszelni a telefonon. Gondolom, ezt az uzenetet mar
csak karacsony utan kapod meg, mert az unnepek alatt nem mesz be az
irodadba. Azert szolj, amikor megkapod. Bar nem hiszem, hogy barmi
problema lenne, mindenkeppen el kell jutnia hozzad.
Megegyszer kellemes karacsonyi unnepeket
Zsolt
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar