From: ksm@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Ashley)
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Straight, gay, whatever....
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:55:51 GMT
Organization: Kaos Laboratories


>ksm@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Ashley) responds to a claw wielding 
kitty...

>>Ashley:
>>	I couldn't agree more. Sometimes I am shocked by the rabid homophobia 
>>of these drooling inbred jackasses. I guess being from the San Francisco are, 
>>where FAGGOT is often a term carried with PRIDE, I got the benefit of not 
>>having the option of becoming a redneck hick. The original poster of this 
>>"fudge-packer" snivel should take a good look around him and realize how many 
>>of his friends/teachers/parents/lovers/etc. are gay or bi. It can be a 
>>shocking experience when you realize the sheer numbers of people who are 
>>considered "wrong" by the cultural standard. And when you see a graphic 
>>depiction (like this one) of how bad the prejudice really is, I have to 
>>wonder how many straights are out there trying to stay straight every day, 
>>pretending they don't dream about it, don't feel that way, just trying to be 
>>"normal".....
> 
> 
>Tyger:
>In other news, I am straight, and I take offense at your seeming implication 
>that even straight people that don't say anything feel hatred and loathing 
>towards homosexual people. That is just plain and simply BS. It's also untrue 
>that I and other straights need to work at being straight...it just happened 
>that I am romantically and physically attracted to men, not women. I was 
>always taught,nay, had it well-nigh beaten into me that I was to respect 
>others, and not deride those that had different belief systems or whathaveyou. 

I am sorry if you see a place where it seems that I imply all straights despise 
gays (couldn't find where you got that idea from). Given my orientation, I 
don't despise anybody (except possibly cross-burning bigots and violence-prone 
chauvanists). And I don't mean to say that straight people have to work 
at being straight either, I just wondered aloud how many people are hiding 
from themselves, pretending to be straight due to cultural restrictions. I can 
assure you that *I* have nothing against straights or gays, I fully acknoledge 
what *I* am, and I've friends in both camps (although the gay camp is much 
more CAMP![couldn't resist]). 


>Tyger: 
>As such I have very little tolerance for bigots, although I feel it is their
>right to feel as they do, and say so.

Yes, and it is our right to speak to them and TRY to enlighten them. I think 
the best way is to do so gently, but as a member of a minority that often gets 
attacked by hate groups, I'm not gonna stand idle and let myself or others 
get killed either. If Ghandi had protested the Nazi invasion and placed his 
body in the road between Germany and Poland, he would have gotten run over. 
And sometimes we all loose it and speak in anger, giving the biggots fuel to 
say "see how awful they are?". 
	I like best Steven Biko's way of confronting the system and the 
inherent wrongs done to us. It cost him his life, and who knows, if things 
get really bad, someday it amy cost me mine.


>   Tyger
>-- 
>      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
>      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
>                            But you can make decisions too
>      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break 


	And I still like your sig, and I see you have claws, though if I had 
your heart, Id' not break it.......better things to do with it. XOX


		- Ashley

	With Tomorrow
	I will borrow
	Another moment of joy and sorrow
	and another dream
	and another
	with tomorrow.      - TMC
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