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From: thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Ranma Nettouhen: ED4 "Friends" translation/lyrics
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:55:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Anime

Another good driving song...

Here are the lyrics in romaji with an English translation, followed by
the lyrics in Japanese Industrial Standard codes.  The ESC characters
in the JIS codes are replaced with "^[" for posting.

These and many other anime song lyrics and translations are available
for anonymous ftp from romulus.rutgers.edu (128.6.13.2), in the
pub/anime/lyrix subdirectory.

I'm translating these songs to learn Japanese, so if you notice any
mistakes, please correct me.

Friends - Yawmin
"Ranma 1/2 Nettouhen" ending theme (1990)

taorete-kisou-na  BIRU no mori no sumi
hazumu kokyuu o  nomikonde kakureta
	In a corner of a forest of as if collapsing buildings,
	gulping in panting breaths, I hid.

himitsu no roji wo surinuke
yubisaki kasume-nigeru FURENZU
tada no GEEMU ja nakatta
ummei sae KIMEtanda
	Slipping through a secret alley,
	friends going past my fingertips.
	It wasn't just a game.
	It decided even fate.

* kaerimichi ni otoshita PAN ga
  ASUFARUTO de kudakete mo
  senaka tataku kaze ga hakobu yo
  natsukashii ashioto  soshite KIMI no koe
	On the way back, even if the dropped bread
	breaks on the asphalt,
	the wind hitting my back carries
	sweet footsteps and your voice!

koborete-kisou-na  tsuki no DOROPPU de
museta namida o  nomikonde waratta
	At as if overflowing moondrops,
	swallowing tears from coughing, I laughed.

minareta kouen no yoru
naze konna ni hiroi no FURENZU
kono te wo hanasanaide
otoshiana shitteru n da
	Night in a familiar park,
	why is it so vast, my friends?
	Don't let go of my hand,
	I know where pits are.

sunao sugiru yokogao dakara
uso wa chotto tsukenakute
tenohira ni mada nokotte-iru
tooi hi no yakusoku  soshite KIMI no yume
	You're profile looks too innocent, so
	I just couldn't lie to you,
	leaving behind still in my palm,
	a promise from long ago and your dream.

* Repeat


Lyricist: Ooyama Junko
Composer: Minami Shunichi
Arranger: Mori Eiji

Translation: Theresa Martin

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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: Ayukawa or Madoka? (**some spoilers**)?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:24:02 GMT

In article <Jan.18.11.11.27.1993.11437@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:
>
>Btw,  Given the costs of Domestically released anime on LD vs Tape,
>you could afford (and justify) the cost of an LD player in no time!
>
>Miyu-  $80 on tape.  $65 on LD
>
>Dominion- $120 on tape.  $70 on Disk
>
>BGC disk 1- $105 on tape, $65 on LD

	Don't forget non-domestic anime as well!
	Ranma 1/2 Movie 1:  LD:  Y 9800
			  Tape:  Y 14800

	Anyone buying Anime Tapes is beyond foolish since they're
	paying for the 'rental license' as well (japanese ones).
>
>The savings just rack up.  And, the first time your VCR eats that $40
>tape, you will wish you had an LD player.  

	This is the MAIN reason why I started into LDs as well..  couldn't
stand having those $40 tapes get little runs in it (showing as horizontal
lines on my TV set) after only a few viewings.  TAPES JUST PLAIN SUCK!!

>
>The prices are falling.  You can pick one up for less than $300 if you
>search hard enough.

	And for $400 you can pick up snazzy players like the Pioneer M301
that can play 5 CDs in a carousel as a bonus, or the M401 for around $450
that auto-reverses your discs!!  (Of course I can't buy them at this
price in the biggest rip-off land in America (being Honolulu, Hawaii).)

>Steve
 ^^^^^ the FAQ-meister..

	PS>>  You're trailing Hitoshi in the polling Steve!!  Get all
		your Rutgers boys to stuff the ballots soon!  Around
		10 days left to conquer the empire dammit!

-- 
 "I love the smell of napalm in the morning.  It smells like..  VICTORY."

			--++ Neo Jion Press ++--
From: rmc@wang.com (rmc)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime Studies 101 (was Freud v. Sailor Moon)
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:56:10 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.

Michael P Collins <mc7f+@andrew.cmu.edu> asks:

>On another note, can anyone think of a series or story (besides the
>original Gundam) where the Rebels are treated as anything less than
>heroes?

In several "Lovely Angels" epispodes, the rebels are treated as
de-stabilizing rather than as heros.  In Mega-zone 23 part I, the
rebels in the "dead zone" are portrayed as an internal threat at a
time when the Mega-Zone needs to fight the alien threat.  It seems
possible that the miltary coup would not have occurred without the
"dead zone rebels".  Of course the "motor cycle gang" rebels are
clearly heros, but they don't seem to have anything much to do with
the other group.

R Mark Chilenskas
rmc@wang.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:20:47 EST
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Do you want a Minky Momo script? (was Re: Two Questions...)

Conty-san Declaims:

>In article <25257@galaxy.ucr.edu>, captain5@watnxt15.ucr.edu (Sam P. Chung)
>writes:
>> First question is whether or not there are any Minky Momo on any of the
>> archives around.

>Not that I know.  However, I have a partial copy of the Spanish dub of
>a Minky Momo movie.  I've thought of transcribing the script, but didn't
>do so because of perceived lack of interest.  If enough people want me
>to, I'll transcribe what I have and post it.
--
 There is at least one tape of Miki Momo episodes (mebbe the movie) that made
it's way into video in the US, renamed "Gigi Gigi" or something equally,
suitably cutesy. Someone had a bought copy of it at a Pittsburgh fen meeting
over Christmas break.

Mitch Hagmaier
Sig lost in PSUVM archives
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From: dhiga@girtab.usc.edu (Darold Higa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: The Ghost in the Shell
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:30:57 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Wow.  For those of you not blessed with living a couple miles from an
Asahiya store [mad chuckles deleted], you might try calling Asahiya and see
if you can set up a subscription box and have them mail the whole thing to
you every couple of months.  I grabbed a subscription to Newtype 6 months
before they raised their yen conversion rate.  As a result, I only pay about
$5 an issue.  Shipping on top of that still sounds a lot cheaper than going
to a local comic book store.

Asahiya's number (for the main branch in Little Tokyo, LA) is:
(310) 915-6633/FAX: (310) 915-6636

Or:
Yaohan Plaza
3760 Centinela Ave. Suite 105
Los Angeles, CA 90066

I believe that Kinokuniya has the same setup.

As a side note, they order books as well.  I managed to order the Delaz Fleet
(Gundam 0083) Entertainment Bible (top) and Intron Depot.  As long as you have
some idea of what you want, they're very good at catering to your otaku whims.

Darold "Godai" Higa of Ikkoku-kan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: gainax@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Ukyou)
Subject: Re: Priss and the Replicants World Tour T-shirts
Organization: Ohio State University; Physics Department
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:59:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.090300.9132@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>
>Is there maybe some way to get the shirts officially liscensed as BGC
>merchandise and then AnimEigo can sell them to all us desperate
>otakus?  Please?  (I can dream, can't I? 8-)
>
>
 I don't think AE would do that, but they would be cool tho', hmmmm,but
then Kimono my House do have those BGC shirts....I wonder if they are
liscensed?....

.....


-- 
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It's a known fact that Otaku's have F'up lives-A quote from a Otaku in S. Cali 

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Subbed Miyazaki films...
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:48:46 GMT

In article <9301260003.aa20343@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dickinson Lo) writes:
>Hello!!  Are there any fan subbed Miyazaki films out there?  If not,
>which of his works are officially released in the U.S.?

As near as I can tell, ALL of Miyazaki's movies have been fan-subbed,
except for Porco Russo, which hasn't come out on video yet (pffft!  Like
that would stop a REAL anime fan! 8^); the trick is finding them.
I've got subtitled copies of Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbor Totoro,
Nausicaa, and Laputa, in various states.  I've heard of (but have not
seen) a fan sub of Castle Cagliostro.

Three of his films have been released in the US - Nausicaa, Laputa,
and Castle Cagliostro - suffering differently from the transition 8-/.
Nausicaa was released by FHE(?) a few years ago as the English-dubbed
"Warriors of the Wind" - the plot was mangled and over half an hour
was cut in order to squeeze it in under 90 minutes.  Laputa was also dubbed
in English - relatively intact, in fact, although opinions differ on the
dubbing - and released theatrically for a short time, until the rights
expired.  Castle Cagliostro was subtitled and released theatrically (yeah!)
but was then dubbed into English and released on video (and apparently
done none too well, either - boooo!).

[Incidentally, Miyazaki's TV series Famous Detective Holmes was dubbed
into English and released on video as Sherlock Hound.  Some people like
the dubbing.  I don't care for it.  I've heard that it's being sold
for under $10 a tape at Kay Bee Toys, but none of mine have it.]

English dubs of both Kiki and Totoro were done by Streamline for Tokuma
(the company that owns them) so they could parade them about the big
companies in order to entice them into buying them.  Didn't work, and
as far as I can tell, we won't get to see these two here unless Tokuma
relents and accepts Streamline's offer.

That's all I know.  Anyone else?
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From: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: UY CDs
Date: 24 Jan 1993 19:25:01 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: world
Reply-To: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bashful.cc.utexas.edu
Originator: chrismg@bashful.cc.utexas.edu

I'm trying to decide which Urusei Yatsura CDs to buy.  Could
someone send me the discography (or whatever it's called; the
list of the songs on each) for :Hit Parade
			        Music Capsule

				Songbook

I already have it for the two Juke Boxes.

	Thanks.

-- 
			C h r i s t i a n  G a d e k e n

Yakumo: "But I really did destroy a monster in Hong Kong!
Saru  : "Ahem, ahem"
Yakumo: "Saru, do you believe me?"
Saru  : "Where's my Hong Kong souvenir?"
From: michaele@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Ah! Megamisama! OAV(s): where??
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: michaele@nsg.com.au
Organization: Chamber Militant Ordo Malleus
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

SEKIGUCHI Tatsuro (cocoa@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp) wrote:
> In article <1jqg0sINN6r6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
> 	bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) writes:
> > Has the AMG! OAV come out yet?  OAV #1 was slated to be released

> Not yet. Volume 1 will be released next month (2/21). 

By my calculations there is enough new material for vol. 8 of the manga,
wonder if that will be out at the same time?  There was nothing mentioned
in Afternoon 3 1993 but it wouldn't surprise me, join promotion should add
to the sales of both.

> Today(1/24), a preview was held in Tokyo and I watched the first
> episode.  In the first episode, Keiichi calls Belldandy. Then they go
> to an old temple. At last Megumi comes.(I believe this is not a
> spoiler.) Urud and Skuld appear only in an opening and in a trailer.

Lucky, lucky!  What's it like?  Any warnings?

Ow!  That's most of vol 1... that's a lot of compression!  Hope they don't
chop some my faourite parts out.  Hmmm...  Skuld doesn't show up in the 
manga until about vol 5.  Hope they don't get too carried away with 
cutting bits out!  But then again they need to chop enough out to get 
through to Urd and Skuld's arrivals in four OAVs.

Anyone what to play "Guess the chapters that will get cut"? :-)

Michael
[Did anyone notice in A!MG #51 page 14 (Afternoon 11 1992 page 36) that K1
has a SD Sailor Moon doll?  Second panel down...]
--
Michael Edwards                                          michaele@nsg.com.au
Sydney, Australia
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From: thomat@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu (Todd Michael Thomas)
Subject: New Ranma gifs/Contest Winner info
Keywords: Ranma, Gif
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:49:00 GMT

If anyone was wondering, i havent dropped off the face of the earth, just busy
thats all... =D     

Anyhow, the NEW batch of Ranma and friends gifs are done.  They are on 
ferkel.ucsb.edu  under pub/anime/incoming  and are labeled ranma20.gif through
ranma28.gif  enjoy!  There are no 'original' idea drawings in this batch though
they are all various scenes (or interpretations) from anime/manga stories.
There are still some good ones though....  <no hentai also, well, kinda>
Anyhow, take a look and see (the rest are there also that i have done....1-19).
Comments and criticisms are always welcome and appreciated...also requests.
The next batch will be alot of original ideas and the contest winning 
suggestions....

And  now.....*drumroll*.....a description of the winning suggestions (because
i haven't finished them yet =| )

Hitoshi Doi **1st place** : he suggested a DOCO scene, well, it seems the girls
                            got together and formed a band....and Akane sings
                            as well as she cooks...and Happosai got into the
                            act as well....  =D   ...can you say "air guitar"?

Robert DeLoura **runner-up** : camera pans through the Tendo household, catches
                               on astounding scene....Akane and Ranma sitting
                               on the porch side-by-side watching the leaves
                               fall.... the rest of the family happend by the
                               doorway and was, well stunned...."quick nabiki
                               the camcorder!!!!!!!"   =D

todd thomas-----------------------------------------------------thomat@rpi.edu
--------------Disciple of the Saotome Special Pencil Technique----------------
From: whong@musubi.pubnet.com (Dream Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: love triangles in Anime
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 02:20:43 HST
Organization: Studio Musubi, Honolulu HI

fongj@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca ( chun kwai jay  fong) writes:

> In article <8kVgXB3w164w@musubi.pubnet.com> whong@musubi.pubnet.com (Dream Hu
> >Oh boy! I *love* a challenge! Lets see...
> >
> >Lupin III, Space Pirate Captain Harlock, Dirty Pair, Akira, City Hunter, 
> >Iczer-1, Nadia, Dominion, Appleseed, Outlanders, Space Crusier Yamato, 
> >Cobra, Bubblegum Crisis, Vampire Princess Miyu, Dream Hunter Rem, Record of 
> >Lodoss War, 3X3 Eyes, Baoh, Caravaan Kidd(at least not yet), & shall I go 
> >on?  ^_^
> 
> Hi there Wendell Hong,
> 
>   Uhm, I don't think the love-triangle shows up explicitly but there definite
> is one in City Hunter.  Or at least there were references to it.
> 
>   It's between Saeko Nogami(?), Hideyuki Makimura and Ryo Saeba.  I remember
> there was a story in the manga that mentioned that.
> 
Not much of a triangle in the present though since Hideyuki is DEAD after 
the first few stories.
 ;^)

>   I read that there was even a love-triangle in Record of Lodoss War?  This
> I don't know...
I've seen most of Lodoss War and if love-triangle shows up it shows up 
*late* into the series probably.



Wendell Hong, AKA Dream Hunter: The #2 busiest anime fan in the world!
J.A.S.H. Travel Coordinator/Public Relations/All around drudge...
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From: MUGHI@hacks.arizona.edu (Charles McCarter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: CALL FOR SYNOPSES!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:44:29 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The Camelot System (Excalibur)
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.05

CALL FOR SYNOPSES!!!!

The Anime Reference Guide is soliciting synopses for the 1993 edition which
will be available at Anime Expo '93.  We are attempting to provide a wide range
of synopses, so we are attempting to utilize as many sources as possible.

One of our main goals for this year is to compile and entirely new set of
synopses--all-new matieral that has not appeared in either of the previous
additions of the Anime Reference Guide.  As a result, the contents have not
been firmly defined yet.

If you are interested in submitting synopses for the Anime Reference Guide,
please e-mail me for more information.  

Also, a similar call will be made for art shortly.  For purposes of
reproduction, black and white line drawings are preferable.  Again, e-mail me
for more information.

Charles McCarter
Editor, Anime Reference Guide
MUGHI@hacks.arizona.edu
From: v128rsza@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Kage)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anybody know this ANIME?
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Does anybody know the anime they were showing in the PALADIUM in NYC?
It is a black and white anime.  The leading guy looks like Ken from FOTNS.  He 
had a lot of tatoos on his body.  Looked pretty cool even though there was no 
sound...  Anybody know the title?  Thanks!!!

						Kage
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: stanshyn@athena.mit.edu (Stanley I Shyn)
Subject: Macross II
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:54:02 GMT

I think I read somewhere on this newsgroup that Macross II was a six-part show. 
Is this correct?  And, if so, does that mean six episodes or six of the tapes
the series comes in?



Stanley
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Funny messages in meaningless displays in Robotech
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 03:09:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.162421.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>In article <1k3nnhINN5af@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, kuo_wy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Wilbur Y Kuo) writes:
>> 
>> Hi!  I was wondering if anyone knew of any funny messages in the meaningless
>> displays that appear in Robotech.  For instance, at one point, the word
>> "Klingon" appears on a tactical display.
>
>Heh. It's not just "Klingon," it's a readout from the old sector-grid,
>text-character Star Trek game that was available in several gazillion
>versions for just about every microcomputer a while back...I thought it
>was hilarious to see it on the SDF-1...bit outdated though, I guess
>the RDF soliders hadn't discovered MUDs yet. :)
>
>>  In another display, some
>> philosophical statement about what the world would be like if mice could
>> swim and fish could fly appears.
>
>I believe it is from a nursery rhyme.
>---
> ________    _______              _
>|______  |  |_____  |            | |    | Nippon no anime wa ichi-ban desu!
>      / /         | |  _  _   _  |  \   |   Hey, man, I _like_ Robotech.
>     /  \         | | |_||_| / / |   \  |----------------------------------
>    / /\ \   _____| |   ____/ /  | |\ \ |   Sukotto Miraa/Scott Miller
>   /_/  \_\ |_______|  |_____/   |_| \/ |      ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
>


--
Chris Meadows  | Robotech/RIFTS/Palladium fanfic author/editor                  
CHM173S@SMSVMA | They Might Be Giants about Star Trek aliens:                   
CHM173S@VMA.SMSU.EDU   | "Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads                  
CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU | on their real heads!"
From: diane.karagian@idcbbs.com (Diane Karagian) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: A r.a.a secret handshake?
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: diane.karagian@idcbbs.com (Diane Karagian) 

tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) sez:
TL>Am I the only one who thinks that maybe we should adopt this hand
TL>signal as the r.a.a secret handshake?  We could greet people with
TL>either the hand upright and palm outwards in a peace sign gesture,
TL>or the hand sideways, inserted into the gap between the index and
TL>the pinky fingers of the other person's hand, and then shake.   
TL>An insulting gesture could be the hand upright and palm inwards,
TL>like the inverse peace sign and moved up and down, and thus giving
TL>the r.a.a "finger".
TL>                                               [  ]
TL>It's much better than a silly T-shirt! ?:-)  . [[]]

     It's a cute idea, but it's got one major problem.  Making that 
gesture requires a certain manual dexterity that some of us lack.  I, for 
example, can't extend my pinky finger when my ring finger is curled.  They 
move together.  <g>  For that matter, I can't seem to manage the Vulcan 
"Live Long and Prosper" sign either.

     I'm afraid I'm gonna have to give the old-fasioned finger to the 
thought of an r.a.a handshake/finger.  Sorry.

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