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From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 9/29/92
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:36:21 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

RFE/RL Daily Report           No. 187, 29 September 1992

PARTIAL RESULTS IN ROMANIAN ELECTIONS. Latest figures released by
the National Statistics Board on 29 September (as of 3:00 a.m.)
confirm forecasts from exit polls made by a German and a Romanian
survey institute two days before. The partial results, based on
complete counts from roughly 65% of all stations, show the
incumbent Ion Iliescu leading in the presidential race with 47.3%.
He is followed by Emil Constantinescu from the centrist Democratic
Convention (DC) with 31.2%; Gheorghe Funar from the nationalist
Party of Romanian National Unity (PRNU) with 11%; Caius Traian
Dragomir from the National Salvation Front (NSF) with 4.7%; Ion
Manzatu from the Republican Party with 3.1%; and Mircea Druc, an
independent, with 2.8%. Though a runoff between Iliescu and
Constantinescu on 11 October seems inevitable, the former's
reelection appears almost certain.  The results also show the
Democratic National Salvation Front (DNSF), the party backing
Iliescu, as leading the vote for the 143-seat Senate with 28.6%
and for the 328-seat Chamber of Deputies with 27.6%. It is
followed by the DC with 18.6% and 18.7%, respectively; the NSF
(10.2% for both); the Hungarian Democratic Union of Romania (9.1%
and 8.9%); the PRNU (8.2% and 7.8%); the Greater Romania Party
(3.7% and 3.8%); the Democratic Agrarian Party (3.3% and 3%); and
the Socialist Labor Party, the reborn communist party (3.2% and
3%).  Most analysts see a coalition government looming, and
believe that the DNSF might form a alliance with nationalist and
leftist parties.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL Inc.)

BULGARIAN ECONOMIC NEWS. European Community Finance Ministers,
meeting in Brussels on 28 September, discussed awarding additional
funds to Bulgaria and Romania.  Last week talks between Bulgaria
and the EC moved Bulgaria closer to associate status and trade
terms have been agreed upon, according an RFE/RL correspondent.
Further talks will be held on 15 and 16 October. The Sofia
government hopes for an agreement by year's end while EC leaders
are more reserved, awaiting results of the forthcoming
discussions.  Also on 28 September Bulgaria, together with
Australia, Greece, and Luxembourg, signed an agreement to prohibit
money laundering by organized crime.  The pact, already signed by
20 other countries but ratified only by Great Britain so far, will
make police detection of illegal money flowing into subscribing
countries easier.  (Duncan Perry, RFE/RL Inc.)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: three questions
Date: 3 Oct 1992 01:39:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Keywords: election, hungarian, rugby

In article <1992Oct2.175425.6030@hippo.ru.ac.za> piij@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mr ID Jennings) writes:
>1stly: When will the election results be available?

Apparently final election results "unmasking" will be done sometime later
than initally announced, and therefore pushed around Oct 15. It appears that
Iliescu and his clique of Neo-Commies remenufactured some adversarial re-
sults...

>2ndly: What proportion of the population in Romania has Hungarian as its
>mother tongue - and is this a likely source of tension on the Yugoslav
>scale?

About 8%. Not unless the power loosing/power hungry commies decide to make
an issue out of it and bank on the lowest instincts of the newly created
lumpen proletariat....
>
>3rdly: How did rugby football become popular in Romania?  Who introduced
>it?  What sort of a record does the national team have?

French Army officers brought rugby to Romania at the end of the 19th century.
First officially sanctioned league started in 1898..Our record: we creamed
France several times in Bucharest and, a few years ago once in Paris. the
British islanders always were weary to square it against us, partly because
of our ,ahem, physical style which not only involves hitting the opponets
hard enough for their eyeballs to pop out but also subsequently stepping
with the heel on the stray eyeball....
Jokes aside, we defeated Scotland and Wales once each and we tied All Blacks
in N.Zealand 10-10 in 1983...

Cheers!

>
>Thanks
>-- 
>Ian Jennings
>Philosophy Department
>Rhodes University
>Grahamstown 6140


-- 
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: piij@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mr ID Jennings)
Subject: English teaching in Romania?
Summary: Help wanted for English teaching job in Romania.
Keywords: teach, English, Romania
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:17:06 GMT

I am a South African graduate with a bachelor's degree in English and an
MA in philosophy who is interested in teaching in Romania in 1993.  I
have a TEFL (teaching English as a foreign language) diploma as well as
experience in teaching English to 2nd-language learners in South Africa
and, ideally, this is the kind of teaching I would like to do.

I would greatly welcome any advice on how to go about trying to arrange
such a job - either before I leave South Africa or on my arrival in
Europe.

I would prefer it if people would reply to my personal e-mail account at
piij@hippo.ru.ac.za

Thank you very much.
-- 
Ian Jennings
Philosophy Department
Rhodes University
Grahamstown 6140
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From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 10/01/92
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:09:34 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

RFE/RL Daily Report             No. 189, 1 October 1992

RECOUNT IS CALLED IN ROMANIAN VOTE. Romania's electoral bureau
said on 30 September that some 3.6 million votes had to be
declared void because people failed to understand the complicated
ballot papers. Rompres quoted a Romanian official as saying that
13.6% of votes cast for the Chamber of Deputies were annulled,
along with 12.9% for the Senate, and 4.8% for the presidency. In a
communiqui broadcast by Radio Bucharest on 30 September, Romania's
Central Electoral Bureau called for a recount within 24 hours. The
Democratic Convention, an alliance of the main opposition forces,
pointing to the unusually high number of invalid ballots,
expressed serious doubts about the accuracy of counting
procedures.  The counting will now probably take several more
days.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL Inc.)

ILIESCU CALLS FOR COALITION. On 30 September President Ion Iliescu
called for a government of national unity to cope with Romania's
"grave problems." Speaking at a press conference, Iliescu
expressed hopes that his Democratic National Salvation Front and
the centrist Democratic Convention could find "a platform of
minimal understanding." He suggested that a wide-based coalition
might include all political groups in the new parliament.  Another
alternative mentioned by Iliescu was that of a cabinet of
technocrats accepted by all parties in parliament.  Iliescu also
described fears of a slowdown in economic reforms after his
party's victory as unfounded, but added that reforms should be
made "tolerable." (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL Inc.)

HOUSE REJECTS MFN TRADE STATUS FOR ROMANIA.  The US House of
Representatives rejected on 30 September by a 283 to 88 vote the
restoration of most-favored-nation trade status to Romania.  There
was no debate before the vote, which had been delayed because some
members of the Congress wanted to see the results of the
elections.  Romania is currently the only East European country
which does not enjoy the MFN status, which grants low tariffs to
exports to the United States.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL Inc.)

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From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romanian News from RFE/RL, 10/05/92
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:01:11 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

RFE/RL Daily Report              No. 191, 5 October 1992

FINAL RESULTS IN ROMANIAN PRESIDENTIAL RACE.  On 4 October the
Constitutional Court released the final results of the 27
September presidential race. Incumbent President Ion Iliescu won
47.34% of the votes, followed by Emil Constantinescu, candidate of
the centrist Democratic Convention, with 31.24%; Gheorghe Funar of
the Party of Romanian National Unity (10.88%); Caius Traian
Dragomir of the National Salvation Front (4.75); Ioan Manzatu from
the fringe Republican Party (3.05%); and Mircea Druc, a former
prime minister of Moldova who ran as an independent (2.75%).
Radio Bucharest quoted the president of the court as saying that
the share of invalid votes (4.65%) was "normal." A runoff between
Iliescu and Constantinescu is scheduled for 11 October.  (Dan
Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

CONSTANTINESCU CRITICIZES VOTE COUNTING. The same day Radio
Bucharest broadcast a statement by Constantinescu criticizing what
he termed "confusion and lack of transparency" surrounding the
vote counting. Constantinescu spoke of "serious irregularities"
and stressed that roughly one in ten votes for the parliament had
been declared invalid. He appealed to the authorities to show "a
maximum of fairness" in staging the runoff for presidency, and
challenged his rival Ion Iliescu to at least three debates to be
broadcast live by Romanian radio and television.  (Dan Ionescu,
RFE/RL, Inc.)

FUNAR BECOMES INTERIM PRESIDENT OF HIS PARTY.  The National
Council of the Party of Romanian National Unity (PRNU), the
political arm of the nationalist "Vatra Romaneasca" (Romanian
Hearth) organization, announced on 3 October that Gheorghe Funar
was appointed the party's interim president at a council meeting
in Cluj-Napoca.  Funar placed third with almost 11% of the votes
in the presidential race, while his PRNU was also third in the
parliamentarian elections.  Before appointing Funar, the council
"suspended" former party president Radu Ciontea and "discharged"
another four leaders. It also appointed a delegation including
Funar to conduct talks in Bucharest on the building of the next
government, Radio Bucharest said. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: viktoria@carson.u.washington.edu (Viktoria Seibert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Elections
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:23:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep29.102329.10782
Organization: University of Washington

In article <1992Sep27.204159.13549@morrow.stanford.edu> mihai@sep.Stanford.EDU (Alexander Mihai Popovici) writes:
>Some stuff on the oncoming elections from clari:
>
>
>	BUCHAREST, Romania (UPI) -- 
>	Ultra-nationalism is also gaining ground. A presidential candidate
>for the Party of National Unity for Romania, Gheorghe Funar, may score
>highly with lesser educated classes with his program of national
>dignity, law and order and an emphasis on traditional heroes.
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This sounds real ominous... With all due respect to The Church Lady of 
Saturday Night Live, "Could he mean *Dracula*??"

                       O prietena in naopte,
                               Vica
                               >:-[
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From: acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu)
Subject: Re: Anda Calugareanu death
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:40:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Oct3.044331.598@vms.huji.ac.il> marian@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
>
>I learned full of consternation and pain that Anda Calugareanu died few weeks
[...]
>anyone details about the death of Anda?
>
Not details of her death, no, but I remember her in 1990 back on the scenes (!),
with a TV show, partly for kids, partly for teens, which was one of the first
shows in Romania with a lot of implication from the public, et c., really a
live thing, and very loved by everyone. For now, I can't remember the name of
the show.

	Alin


Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: viktoria@carson.u.washington.edu (Viktoria Seibert)
Subject: Re: poet Ion Barbu 
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:41:52 GMT

andrei@gregoire.osf.fr (Andrei Danes) writes:

>     I would like to have the opinions of everyone interested
>Andrei

How about "The Next Step"? 

Vica
From: mitrache@gringo.usc.edu (Traian Mitrache)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Post election speculation
Date: 1 Oct 1992 13:31:23 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Oct1.163327.520@tvnews.tv.tek.com>, alexmi@soul.tv.tek.com (Alex Mitaru) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep30.075419.13667@kth.se> mihai@nada.kth.se (Mihai Dorobantu) writes:
|> >
|> >On the other hand, the list of worms in public life is growing
|> >at an alarming rate (Adrian Paunescu is a "new" star). I think we cannot
|> >set appart the elections' results and this growth. Combining the two 
|> >gives a sad, sad outlook for Roumania!
|> >
|> 
|> 
|>  Adrian Paunescu a new star!!!!! Can't believe this, do you have more
|>  details?
|> 
|>  Alex Mitaru

	A few moths ago , on his birthday, he was dedicated a 2hour show on
the Romanian TV.When somebody from the audience told him that he is a pig,
he replied:yes, I agree ,I am a pig, but I am your pig"("da sint un porc, dar sint
porcul dumneavoastra"...).I think this is enough, isn't it?

Traian
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From: sispas@lsil.com (Steve Ispas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Michael Jackson
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:52:05 GMT
Reply-To: sispas@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Does anyone have more information and details about the concert Michael Jackson is 
having in Bucharest?  It seems to be the first eastern european tour for Jackson, and
I am sure it is a huge event for the romanians (that is, if they are not to busy electing a new president).  If anyone knows how many concerts will take place, how much tickets are, etc. please respond.  Also let me know where else I could find details
about this.  Thank you very much.
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From: andrei@gregoire.osf.fr (Andrei Danes)
Subject: Re: poet Ion Barbu 
Reply-To: andrei@gregoire.osf.fr (Andrei Danes)
Organization: OSF Research Institute
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:45:12 GMT

>   - a better translation of "Joc second" is "A secondary game" (and not
>     "Second game")

     Just an opinon ...

     I cannot figure out what the accurate english translation should 
be, but "secondary" doesn't sound satisactory to me. It seems to suggest
a lower quality, or lesser importance, like "minor". On the contrary, my
interpretation of Barbu's poem is that "joc secund" reflects a somehow
deeper and profunde quality ("un joc secund, mai pur").
     Also, "game" might be misleading, because "joc" could possibly be 
translated by "act", "play" or "reflexion" ("Taind .../ In grupurile
apei, un joc ...").
     
     I would like to have the opinions of everyone interested

Andrei

Andrei Danes  
OSF Research Institute     EMAIL: andrei@gr.osf.org  
2,  Avenue de  Vignate     PHONE: (33) 76 63 48 97    
38610 Gieres    FRANCE     FAX:   (33) 76 51 05 32
From: bucur@pollux.usc.edu (alexander bucur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Elections
Date: 30 Sep 1992 09:42:58 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep29.123616.29302@kth.se> mihai@nada.kth.se (Mihai Dorobantu) writes:
>I'm afraid it can be much worse then Dracula. I shouldn't wonder if
>in PUNR's view "traditional heros" include the Genius of the Carpathians
>and his Academician wife (+ the whole lot now in prison at Jilava).

I read in CLIPA (a romanian magazie in LA) an interview with him in which
he said that Ceausescu was one of the great romanians, and that he had
done a lot for the country, that without him many things that could not
have been accomplished.  Funar was quite hard to really get to what things
he was refering to.  I am quite afraid of such people getting to power, however
we had legionars during the 1930-1940 (my grandfather was one, and he changed
to communist when during the 46-47 period).  I blamed my grandfather for
what he did, however the machismo that goes with such movements makes many
"little dicks" to like them and to become die-hards believers.  How do you
think that Ceausescu got his power in the 80s?  It is because his army
of believers that he build in the beginning of the 70s.

Sasha Bucur
From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Romanian soccer teams results
Date: 1 Oct 1992 03:05:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


Steaua easily defeated the Irish Bohemians (4-0)

Dimano needed overtime and a late goal by Albanian
striker Suleiman Demollari to defeat Kuusysi of Finland
2-0 and advance on a 2-1 aggregate.

After last year surprising loss in EC1 against Omonia Nicosia
Universitatea Craiova did it again, loosing both matches against
Sigma Olomouc (1-0) and (2-1)...

Expectedly, Politehnica Timisoara got creamed by Real in Madrid,
(4-0) and lost the next round ticket.

I do not know what Electroputere Craiova did against Panathinaikos
in Athens, but barred extraterrestrial intervention they did not make
it either, since they had lost 6-0 in Craiova in the first leg...

Must be something in the air in Craiova....

On Oct.14 the national squad takes on the Red Devils in their own
Bruxellesque lair. Good luck to Hagi and comp. Coach Dinu aims at
fielding the following team:

			STELEA
			(Logrones)

PETRESCU	BELODEDICI 	G.POPESCU 	D. MUNTEANU
(Foggia)	(Valencia)	(PSV Eindhoven)	(Dinamo)


TIMOFTE II	HAGI		LUPESCU 	SABAU
(FC Porto)	(Brescia)	(B.Leverkusen)	(Brescia)

	
	LACATUS			BALINT
	(Oviedo)		(Logrones)

A highly defensive mood I'd say. My guess is we'll play with six defenders
and rely on Hagi's long shots and his passes to Lacatus and Balint for an
offense......

Cheers!

-- 
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Elections
From: acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:23:53 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Sep29.123616.29302@kth.se> mihai@nada.kth.se (Mihai Dorobantu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.102329.10782@u.washington.edu>, viktoria@carson.u.washington.edu (Viktoria Seibert) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep27.204159.13549@morrow.stanford.edu> mihai@sep.Stanford.EDU (Alexander Mihai Popovici) writes:
>|> >Some stuff on the oncoming elections from clari:
>|> >
>|> >
>|> >	BUCHAREST, Romania (UPI) -- 
>|> >	Ultra-nationalism is also gaining ground. A presidential candidate
>|> >for the Party of National Unity for Romania, Gheorghe Funar, may score
>|> >highly with lesser educated classes with his program of national
>|> >dignity, law and order and an emphasis on traditional heroes.
>|>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> 
>|> This sounds real ominous... With all due respect to The Church Lady of 
>|> Saturday Night Live, "Could he mean *Dracula*??"
>|> 
>|>                        O prietena in naopte,
>|>                                Vica
>|>                                >:-[
>I'm afraid it can be much worse then Dracula. I shouldn't wonder if
>in PUNR's view "traditional heros" include the Genius of the Carpathians
>and his Academician wife (+ the whole lot now in prison at Jilava).
>Their close relatives, Romania Mare, already sings songs of praise to
>the former executive and ideology.
>
>Mihai Dorobantu

Yess, indeed, what does Vic have against good ole Dracula, who
was very nice compared to what those guys like Eugen Barbu &
the others from Romania Mare are ?!!

	Alin
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Subject: Piersic
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:06:51 GMT
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From: piij@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mr ID Jennings)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: three questions
Keywords: election, hungarian, rugby
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:51:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: hippo.1992Oct3.165116.5631
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa

Amazing to hear of what a long history rugby has in Romania - I had
guessed that it was a recent import.

As a South African rugby fan I was disappointed that the proposed
Springbok tour didn't go ahead this year - but no doubt it'll happen
some time.

While on the subject - I'm hoping to spend some time in Romania next
year and (amongst other things) would be keen to watch some rugby.

Any suggestions as to which teams, competitions etc to watch?  Where and
when games happen?
-- 
Ian Jennings
Philosophy Department
Rhodes University
Grahamstown 6140
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: mihai@sep.Stanford.EDU (Alexander Mihai Popovici)
Subject: Re: Education
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:35:23 GMT

|> >The American spirit.
|> >
|> Paul has already said it, I don't know why Romanian schools should teach
|> the American spirit and not the Romanian spirit. 
|> But there is a different tragedy here. They weren't teaching the Romanian 
|> spirit either. Intolerance is NOT the Romanian spirit, it is the damned 
|> result of the self-righteous ideology which proclaimed itself "one and only"!

Bah,
I didn't mean American spirit in the sense of a national spirit.
I meant all the qualities that are bestowed collectivelly on a people.
Romanian, American, whatever.

Cheers
Mihai