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From: mgm2731@zeus.tamu.edu (Mike 'Vogon' Margolis)
Subject: Re: Texas beer laws
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Texas, Laws
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:18:00 GMT

In article <14OCT199217253316@rigel.tamu.edu>, wjb5106@rigel.tamu.edu (Walter Barnett) writes...
>In article <14OCT199215211806@rigel.tamu.edu>, dam2009@rigel.tamu.edu (MILLER, DAVID ARTHUR) writes...
>>Can anyone shed any light for me on the beer laws in Texas concerning
>>microbreweries?  Is there any hope at all that we might someday have 
>>a the ability to have a good fresh beer??
>> 
>...
>
>Brewers in Texas can only sell their beers through independent
>distributors.  As a result, we have no brewpubs.  The only way this can
>change is for the legislature to change the distribution laws. 
> 

So what would it take to get this stupid law repealed. Maybe a massive uprising 
by the Society Of Bud-Haters (SOBH)

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From: tina@IASTATE.EDU (Christina Reinhard)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Beer info
Keywords: German Beer ?
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: tina@IASTATE.EDU (Christina Reinhard)
Organization: Iowa State University
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Distribution: world
Date: Fri Oct 16 21:30:46 1992 GMT
Followup-To: 
From: tina@IASTATE.EDU (Christina Reinhard)
Reply-To: tina@IASTATE.EDU (Christina Reinhard)
Organization: Iowa State University
Subject: 
Keywords: German Beer ?


  Hi dear fellow beer netters,

  I am writing a paper (actually it is a talk I am giving) about beer.
 I am trying to focus on German beer (actually the difference between
 German beer and American beer).  

   Any suggestion onwhat basis beer could be compared (e.g. purity law, etc.) ?

  Please send me or post your opinion/suggestions.
  
   I am German and I have had several chances to drink beer here and in
  Germany.  I would like to have opinions from fellow experts/fanatics.

   Thanks,
           Christina
From: v086jxa4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (EVAN)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: What is ftp address for beer games.
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


To tell you the truth I am not even sure if there is an ftp site for
beer games.  If there is can someone please e-mail me the address for the 
ftp site of beer games.

-Thanks in advance

Evan
From: jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com (John R. Mellby)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST Expensive Beer
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:34:10 GMT
Organization: TI-DSEG Spring Creek

I wanted to stay out of this one but ...
You can't fairly compare local extremes.  I once got a bottle of
Red Tail Ale, 24 oz, for $12 (the first bottle of it I had found).
Of course this was in Berose Liquors in Washington D.C. and they
had to air-freight it from California.

The minor Belgians, as someone has correctly stated, like Orval and
St. Sixtus, are probably going to be around $6+ for a single bottle.

Clearly the most expensive beer (excluding the antiques, like 20-year old
bottles of Thomas Hardy, or the Ballantine that was stolen from the
auction in California a few months ago, both expected to go for over
$1000) will be the oversized bottles.

A Michigan brewery (Frankenmuth? No I think it was Kalamazoo) bottled
an ale in Jeraboam and Methuselahs.  I believe they cost well over $100.
Obviously these were not for the 7-11 crowd.  Probably for publicity
purposes.

John R. Mellby                       Texas Instruments
jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com         P.O.Box 869305, MS 8513
jmellby@mcopn2.ti.com                Plano, Texas, 75266
(214)517-5370                        (214)575-6774
From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: CAVE CHILI BEER
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:52:20 GMT

In <Bw112u.MzF@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> cii6702@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Chris Martinez) writes:

>Does anyone know where this beer is made, I think its domestic but am not
>certain?  A friend and I tried it at the Weinkeller in a suburb of Chicago
>and I'm wondering where I can have another friend purchase it in St. Louis. 
>It had a distinct flavor, probably due to the jalepeno pepper at the bottom
>of the bottle.  I need to know by 10-15-92 as he will be leaving from St.
>Louis that night.

I believe it's called Cave Creek and is from either AZ or NM. My
question to you is "Why?". This stuff is really the pits. The beer is
dreck. You could have the same if you dropped a jalapeno in a glass of
Bud along with a little pepper juice...(IMHO)!
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Baker)
Subject: shipping beer
Keywords: Dunkel Erdinger Hefeweizen, shipping
 
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:33:54 GMT

 A friend of mine in Germany has decided to fulfil a pledge he made when I
left his home a year and a half ago by shipping me some of my absolute 
co-favorite beer (tied with Guinness): Dunkel Erdinger Hefeweizen.  He is
worried, however, about customs and if there is any problem with sending
a small amount (3 or 4 liters) (6 or 8 bottles) to me.  He sent me a CD once
and it was obvious that it had been opened after he sent it (the customs
person who opened it had ripped the letter that was with it and decided to
explain how it was ripped with a note) and he doesn't think it would be
a good thing if they wouldn't allow it in.  I have no experience in these
matters and was wondering if anyone had any ideas.
E-mail or post please,

******************************************************************************* All animals are strictly dry, they sinless live and swiftly die.
But sinful, Ginful, beer soaked man survives three score years and ten
                                                -origin unknown-
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Edwin Sharp
esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Ignasi Palou-Rivera)
Subject: Re: best beer under $6
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Chemical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:21:27
	<1992Oct08.145613.6830@brtph560.bnr.ca>
	<1b1p06INN7rg@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>
In-reply-to: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu's message of 8 Oct 1992 16:52:22 GMT

In article <1b1p06INN7rg@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:

>      I was under the impression that you wanted locally available
>   recommendations at local prices.  I apologize for my misunderstanding.
>   Let me know what you end up with from Von's (avoid the Kaiserdom
>   Rauchbier, though; it takes some getting used to), and what you think
>   of Capital's Garten Brau (especially the Special, which just won a
>   medal at the GABF-- great stuff!).
>   --
>   Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst

I agree. Capital Garten Brau is a great beer for $5.79 plus tax a
six-pack. The Special is available on tap in many Madtown bars and
restaurants. Last week I got a six-pack of their Oktoberfest from
Steve's. It's pretty good, but I think I prefer Sprecher's Oktoberfest
(more difficult to find and far more expensive, $1.49 for a single
16-ounce bottle). This whole bussiness reminds me of a couple of
questions:

* Capital brews are normally in green bottles (except the
Oktoberfest), but they are packaged (6 bottles) in closed card-board
containers. They claim that this protects the beer from the light and
is environmentally better (they even count how nay tons of wood
they're saving a year !!). Are there any other brewers doing that ?
(The only other one I know is Stevens Point brewery with their seasonal
Spuds brew).

* I've noticed that a number of Lagers are called Special. Does that
name mean anything? Any similar characteristics?

Ignasi.
--
Ignasi Palou-Rivera		palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu
Dept. of Chemical Engineering, U. of Wisconsin, Madison.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: 24 beers on tap???  Only in NYC
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
	<1992Oct15.225015.8035@equalizer.cray.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:46:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.225015.8035@equalizer.cray.com> bruceh@cray.com (Bruce T. Hill) writes:

   Try the Goat Hill Tavern in Costa Mesa, CA. It has 125 beers on tap.
   They are listed in the Guinness Book of World Records.
   45 imported beers and 42 microbrewed beers.

So that leaves what, 38 varieties of Budmilloors?  Do they have
Caffeine Free Bud Lite Clear Dry Dark Classic Cold-Filtered Draft Reserve?


--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Vote for Perot
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:37:39 GMT
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.

In article <92287.153445JJB133@psuvm.psu.edu> <JJB133@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   Unlike GHWB or Bill Clinton, my candidate has NEVER raised the beer
>tax.

How many opportunities has your candidate had to raise the beer tax?
From: mars@carroll1.cc.edu (Sean Tyler Mars)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: The Pope's beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:13:58 GMT
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI


	Hey all in alt.beer land.  I got a ? for ya.  I was in Europe last year
and I tried a beer that was cheap and relatively good. It had some dude that 
looked like the Pope on the front.  

	I would like to relive old times and get some of that beer but 
I cannot find it anywhere in Wisconsin (surprise surprise).  

I would really appreciate any response on any good European (Austrian) beer 
or this "fine" Pope's beer. Or if anyone knows where I could find some of this
beer in the general Milwaukee area??.

Thanks,
Sean

mars@carroll1.cc.edu
From: jeff344@lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Berton)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: 220+ Beers
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:59:36 GMT
Reply-To: jeff344@voodoo.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, OH

In article <1992Oct15.161727.12190@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, agillum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Aaron C Gillum) writes:
> A local Bar here at OSU has over 220 beers. If you try every kind within a
> year, you get a big pewter stein with your name on it, placed over the bar. Now
> *THAT'S* a trophy!

Is that the place where coach Cooper drinks?

:-)  :-)  :-)
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Subject: Re: Changes at Pete's?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:45:45 GMT

In article <lsmith.718841359@exa> lsmith@exa.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>Anyone know if Pete's Wicked Ale has changed brewers lately? 
>
>Pete's used to be contract brewed by Schell's down in New Ulm. Recently,
>I noted that the neck label says Pete's Brewery in St Paul, MN. The
>cost of the beer has also dropped by about a dollar locally (Twin Cities.)
>
>Landmark (formerly Schmidt) in St. Paul has been contract brewing. Any
>word if Pete's has switched? 
>--
>     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
>         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
> "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
>    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"

     I drank some only yesterday as a matter of fact- The bottle said it was 
brewed in Palo Alto Ca... (I think) I thought Ca. was odd though. Still tasted
good @ $4.99 a six :-) 

                                                     Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com
From: lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Killian's Red
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:35:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Little Squids of the Irish

In article <1992Oct16.205129.2957@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> hware@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Henry W Ware) writes:
>In article <binkley.719246874@beagle> binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley
>) writes:
>>gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan) writes:
>>>> Killian's Red (Bottled by Coors but you wouldn't know it)
>>>Oh, some of us would.  Its light and salty, no serious
>[...]
>>[Killian's is] standard Coors with a little bit of amber coloring.
>>
>
>U.S. Killian's is (or atleast wasn't) an Coors reciepe.
>
>It is, I believe, under licence from the French firm George 
>Killian's.

Not quite. There was an Irish brewery called Killian. It sold it's name
to both a French and American firm. Supposedly the Irish brewery then
closed. (There's still some disagreement whether Killian's is still brewed
in Ireland. I suppose we should ask a native.) So there's a French Killian
beer (that is closer to the originals style, I'm told) and the Coors'
version that is just sort of dull. Coors' just bought the name. Their 
present version probably has little to do with the original ruby red ale.

>So its an American imitation of a French version of an Irish 
>(style) beer!  ;-)

I'd say it's an American twin of a French version of an Irish beer. The 
Coors version must be thought of as the bland sheep of the family.

>Drink one for me,

Well, if you're buying I'll have a Summit Winter Ale, please. 
--
 Lance "Death to Typed Things" Smith  |   "
        (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)           |   
       Still waiting for the          |  
        Great Leap Forward.           |   "
From: serickso@ub.d.umn.edu (Scott Erickson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: american beer
Date: 15 Oct 1992 09:17:46 -0500
Organization: University of Conformist Thought
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: serickso@ub.d.umn.edu (Scott Erickson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu


Previously mbfeld@unix.amherst.edu (Marlon McDuck) wrote: 
[some writing deleted]
>
>Sierra Nevada
>Sam Adams
>Killian's Red (Bottled by Coors but you wouldn't know it)
>New Amsterdam (my favorite but I doubt you can get it in Canada)
>Saranac (I REALLY doubt you can get it in Canada)
>
>There are many more I have declined to include here.
>Oh well, here's a few more:  Anchor Steam, Newman's, Pete's Wicked Ale...
>Of all of these, Sam Adams is probably your best bet to find.
>
>Happy drinking!
>
>Marlon

In my opinion, the Sierra Nevada brews and Killian's Red are the best brews
on this list.

Everytime I drink Killian's Red, I am surprised that such a good brew could
be brewed by Coors.  I do not have any respect for the other Coors products I
have tried.  However, I have seen, in a local bottle shop, a brew called
Winterfest that is bottled by Coors.  Has anyone tried this?

I remember the time last St. Patrick's Day.  My roommate and I bought a party
ball of Killian's Red.  We parked the party ball on the living room table,
turned on some good music and proceeded to get ourselves drunk.  By the time
we were done, we had drank 3/4 of the ball (which was 3.87 gallons).

I particularly like the fruity taste of Sierra Nevada brews.  I find it good
to finish off a meal with one of their brews.  

Oh well, time to go drinking!


-- 

I have sold all of my dreams and I am too morally bankrupt to buy them back.

serickso@ub.d.umn.edu                                         Scott Erickson
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jack Kobzeff)
Subject: Beer without barley?
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:12:45 GMT

Is there any commercial beer made without barley as the malt?


Jack Kobzeff     (jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Duvel
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:52:51 GMT

it was a good beer .. light taste .. but far to expensive.. $3.25 for one bottle.
but i had to try it.. it didnt have the extraordinary taste i was hoping for ... but at least it didnt taste foul... i would have been upset .. 
anyone else have this beer ?
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
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 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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From: briard@dxcern.cern.ch (\)
Subject: Re: Beer Games, help file
Reply-To: briard@dxcern.cern.ch (\)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:39:37 GMT



The time difference between USA and Finland is 6 o'clock during Winter Time.
Finland is on CET (Central European Time) time slice.

Francois Briard
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CERN (European Lab for Particle Physics)
Computers and Networks Division
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: spb0457@rigel.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Subject: Re: Youngs RamRod
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:46:00 GMT

scarrobi@shearson.com writes...
>o.k. here's anotherone .. last year i met a guy from england and i told him i
>was a great fan of beer and i was interested in some of the off the beaten
>trail brew of england .. he bought me 2 bottles of Young's RamRod Pale Ale ...
>its a Barley Hops brew .... it wasnt bad .. but it had a definite taste that
>took getting used to .. it was probably the barley .. 
>since i only had 2 bottles i didnt have time to discern the taste ... but i
>think it was the barley ... 
>but it was definitely on the weak side as far as taste ... 
>if anyone has had this maybe u know what i mean ... 
>Steve C. 

+------------------------------------SubG------------------------------------+
Try Young's Oatmeal Stout sometime, if yer lookin' for a nice 'n' crunchy
beer.  Not as bad as, say, Chimay, but a nice thick brew nonetheless.

Incidentally, I wouldn't call anything put out by Young's "off the beaten
trail of England";  anything that you can find in a grocery store in any
sizable town in America is pretty damned mainstream.










Yours etc.,



SubGenius
From: cm007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dr. Ski)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Sorry, only 24 beers.  But NYC doesn't suck
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:34:06 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Well, 24 taps impressed me, being the underage college student that I am. 
Next time I am in SanDiego, I'll stop by.


DrSki
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Henry Weinhard in Iowa?
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:54:18 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Does anyone know where I can find some Henry Weinhard Private Reserve in 
Northwest Iowa?  Or does anyone have an address for Henry W./Blitz Weinhard 
Brewery in Portland, Oregon??

Thanks tons,

TIM
From: brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: american beer
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:34:55 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Dear Christian,

It may surprise you to know that some of us piss-drinking Americans have been
complaining about this same problem for a long time.  The upshot is that there
are more and more people that refuse to drink the mass produced drek and more
and more American brewers that brew quality stuff, including many who brew
their own at home.  But I do have a question.  Do you really drink to get
drunk?  If so, what difference does is make what you drink?

Your characterizations of beer containers was...interesting.  Freud would have
loved you.


There are certainly lots of Americans like that guy you described, but many
more not like him.  In fact, many of us now see much Canadian beer, including
the Molson-O'Keefe Labatts stuff as the next worst thing to "traditional" mass
produced merican crap.  We just don

we just don't drink it.  We find better beer, and it is there, even in Canada.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: euatno@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Nopp)
Subject: Re: American beer
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:26:45 GMT

turin@jarre.euromath.dk (Soren Turin) writes:


>I've recently started to read alt.beer and what surprises me is the
>number of totally unknown beers mentioned. In this good-forsaken
>country i can buy beers from almost any corner of the earth except US.
>I've even stumbled across chinese beer (Double Happiness; tasted OK),
>but never ever have i come across a US beer. Yea, i can get US Bud but
>i don't voluntarily drink bats piss; the real Budvar is good. So, if 
>any of you netters out there know of a European importer of US beer
>please tell me about it. If it means going to some far corner of this 
>continent i'll keep it in mind when considering my vacation. 


>Hoppy regards 
>Soren

Hi Soren...
Why don't you just take the boat to Malmo/Sweden. At Systembolaget you 
can buy Samuel Adams Boston Lager, Anchor Steam, Bud, Michelob and
Schlitz.
Reffering to what you think of Bud I'll only recomend the two first
ones(Samuel Adams and Anchor Steam) They're GOOD!!

Happy drinking!!


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From: mrapp@cc.swarthmore.edu (Michael Rapp)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Sanichlaus Beer-MOST Expensive Beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:09:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Center

The beer store near here sells six-packs of Sanichlaus Beer,brewed by Hurliman
in Switzerland for a whopping $23.65 !! This is a store which sells most
imported brands for around $7.00 per six-pack. I've never tasted it, but I
noticed the label said "Rare Swiss Beer" and "Guiness Book Of Records". My
questions are:
1) What's it taste like ?
2) What record does it hold ?
3) What makes it  rare ?

               Michael
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