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I'm looking at a used '87 Bronco II 5-speed 4wd.
I've read that the AT version has a poor record.
Any comments/opinions about reliability of the 
manual, or the vehicle in general?


Thanks,

jaym
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Law regarding speeding ticket ?
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:22:07 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <147520013@hplsla.hp.com> garyw@hplsla.hp.com (Gary Wong) writes:
>
>>    The official penalty in Montana is for "wasting a natural
>>    resource".  It is NOT a speeding ticket.  And the official fine
>>    is $5.00, which does go to the state eventually.  The fine is
>>    set low on purpose, as an "in yo face" to the federal
>>    government's Fascist attempts to interfere in state laws.  
>
>So how fast can a person go on I-90 (65 mph speed limit) through Montana
>and still be fine for $5.00?  
     
       Depends on your car and it's condition.  Try it in a "freeway
       rustbucket" with bald tires and bad shocks and brakes and you
       are highly likely to get a ticket.  

       I've personally done over 125 in a Porsche and just got waved
       at.  In a 427 Chev. I got stopped and the HP checked out my
       shocks, tires, etc. then wished me a nice day.


>Doesn't the law differ when driving at night?
       If there's a night speed limit, it is posted.  However, there
       are also deer all over the !@#$!@$# place on most sections of
       90 and 94.   

>I drive this highway a couple times a year and have never had a clear
>description of the law.
>
       It is a judgement issue.  If you are zipping thru traffic at
       way over their average speed, weaving around, inattentive,
       etc. etc. and driving quite fast, you could be cited for
       reckless driving.   I've never HEARD of anyone being cited
       who didn't deserve it....but not to say it doesn't happen if
       you are the wrong color, hair length, etc.   
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From: hhelanto@vipunen.hut.fi (Henri R Helanto)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Sierra RS Cosworth (WAS Re: Mustang SV
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:17:15 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In <1992Aug29.074200.25051@hasler.ascom.ch> kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh) writes:

>The Vauxhall Lotus Carlton actually does 180 mph and as BMW have a policy
>of restricting their cars to 155 mph they're not likely to be as fast:-) The
>3.7 litre M5 has around 330 PS (I believe) and is somewhat down on the Lotus
>Carltons figure so is unlikely to perform as well. 

>The next M5 is due to receive a tuned version of the V8 4.0 motor
>so should be a real flyer!

	I've heard that the new M5 has somethihng like 385hp but
	it still (sigh) has the speed restrictor. By removing it
	speeds in excess of 180mph are quite possible. 
	The Opel/Vauxhall has better aerodynamics, though...

-Henri Helanto


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From: dap3257@zeus.tamu.edu (DON PERLICK)
Subject: Re: front disc brake question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:31:00 GMT

In article <3360181@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, quan@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Suu Quan) writes...
>	Need your comments :
>	When I rotate the tires on my 1989 Ford Taurus GL (6-cyl 3.0liter)
>I noticed that the front brake pads are now about 1.5 mm (millimeter) thick,
>while a new pad is 4 to 5 mm thick.
> 
>	I told that to a garage (non-dealership), and they told me that
>it would cost me $85.00 to get the front pad replaced, because they also
>have to turn the drum, even though I told them the drums do not seem to
>be scratched. No they have not looked at the brake mechanism, but they
>insist that the drums have to be turned anyway.
> 
>	What do you think ? about the turning and the price ?

	I'd say that if they look OK, let 'em ride.  However, if they 
are grooved, you may be lucky to get out for $85.  Tauruses have
disposable rotors, yes, disposable rotors.  To save weight, Ford was
clever enough to make the rotors VERY thin, such that they're very 
close to their service limits out of the box.  Neat deal for them, huh?

Don
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Subject: Toyota Tercel A/C
From: $dougn@sasb.byu.edu (Douglas R. Nebeker - MIS_SAS)
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:43:57 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University
Keywords: AC A/C Toyota Tercel

Hello All:

I have a Toyota Tercel (I believe it is an '89) that came with air 
conditioning.  Every once in a while, the air coming out of the air 
conditioner is suddenly not as cool as a few moments before, and the little 
green light on the air conditioning button is flashing.  I've looked through 
all of the manuals that came with the car, but none of them mention anything 
about this.  

Why does the air conditioning shut itself off, and what does the blinking 
light mean??

I'd appreciate any responses.

THANKS

P.S.  Please e-mail directly to me since I don't get to this group often

____

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Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,alt.radio.scanner
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: DRIVING X/C, LAW ENFORCEMENT FREQ'S/INFO NEEDED
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:20:34 GMT

I will be driving X/C (cross country) on Sept. 11th...I'll be taking
the I-10 from it's begining (yes..it begins in the WEST and ends in the EAST)
to it's end.

I would like to know if any of you have tips of what different types of law
enforcement are up to.

I would like to know such things as:

Who patrolls the I-10? State Police? HP? Sheriff? 7th Generation Inbred-Webbed-
Toe Cop? [last one applies to the south only]

What types of cars are the using? Lightbards? Droplights? Are the state/police
lic. planes different? Req'd?

Where is a bad area to be doing more then 55? IN California..you can get away
with murder as to driving...what is the real world like? Laser? Radar?

and best of all..FREQUENCIES! Dueplex? Simplex?

---------------

Any info would be great...and even better so if you MAILED ME your response
<or at least a carbon copy>. Carbon? on Internet?

Thanks again,

Marshal

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From: jca@bliss.fibercom.com (Chris "Cheesester" Akers)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ford vs Chevy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:55:27 GMT
Organization: FiberCom, Inc., Roanoke, Virginia

In article <31ad03bl6ajL00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>In article <37391@fibercom.COM> jca@bliss.fibercom.com (Chris "Cheesester" Akers) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.123913.7732@ultb.isc.rit.edu> deb5584@ultb.rit.edu () writes:
>>>If anyone knows of any articles on a 5.0 Stang vs a IROC Camaro could
>>> [...]
>>>                                                Doug
>>  Not too sure about articles, but I know from experience that my '92 Z28
>> [...]
>>you read in magazines about any car.  My Z turns 13.9s and gets 33 mpg on
>							     ^^^^^^^^^^
>>the highway.  Straight from the factory for $18K.  (And yes, I do have
>
>  I have a really hard time believing that a 5.7 TPI small block gets
>33 miles per gallon- maybe you meant 23???
>
>  Doug

It's not a typo.  I didn't believe it either until I drove the car on several
trips to verify this.  (Actually I did fib a little, the best I have gotten
on a trip was 33, but usually I get 31-32.  That's cruising around 65 mph
with an occasional stoplight every half-hour or so.)  The car gets considerably
worse around town- (16-22mpg) and I'm sure that's solely because my driving 
style gets rather aggressive.  It's all proportional to the way you drive.
Why is it so hard to believe that American engineers can produce an affordable
world-class sports car?  (Sigh.)
Chris.
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From: ken@sugra.uucp (Kenneth Ng)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:20:46 GMT
Organization: Private Computer, Totowa NJ

In article <1992Sep2.211752.19113@engage.pko.dec.com:, moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
: In article <1992Sep02.010828.24870@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes...
: [story how 100+ mpg carburetor designs are locked away in the vaults of
: oil companies deleted]
: This is a very old urban legend/conspiracy theory.  I believe it dates from
: the 50s, but tends to show up in force when there is an 'oil crisis' such
: as in 1973.
[edit]
: Hope to see you at the recycling center,
: -Mike

Well, at least he is recycling the urban legend :-)

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From: rah@hickory.cis.ohio-state.edu (michael seungwon rah)
Subject: Tire Size
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:07:11 GMT




The tires your looking at are labeled in metric measure.


For example    215/75 R 15

This tire is 215 mm wide
The second number is a formula for the sidewall height 
      = the percentage of the width

so the sidewall height is 75 percent of 215 mm

the last number is the rim size
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From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:39:48 GMT

ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:

|>I refuse to recycle.  If I have an empty soda can, and there's a
|>garbage can right next to a recycling bin, I'll throw it in
|>the garbage can.  Same with newspapers, bottles, plastic jugs,
|>you name it.  I say, into the trash with it.

That's too bad.

|>Friends, acquaintances and strangers alike look at me with dis-
|>belief and sometimes contempt when I tell them I refuse to 
|>recycle.  They act as if I might have committed some heinous crime
|>against humanity.  I haven't; I'm just living in the real world.

Are you ?
I think not.

|>And I'll tell you exactly what I tell them:  Carburetors.  That's
|>right, carburetors, the gas/air mixture devices that make internal
|>combustion engines work.  

[Oil company conspiracy, etc deleted.]

I'll say this about the conspiracy stuff... It doesn't take too long to
figure out that since it is such a cut-throat world, someone would have 
soldout the oil companies by now. Esp the car manufacturers.
If you are so sure that secrets are being withheld from public consumption,
then you must have access to such secrets to KNOW of its existance. If that
is the case, bring it to market. I'm sure financial support wouldn't be a 
problem with the automotive industry the way it is. And I'm sure we ALL
feel safe with the fact that your morals wouldn't be affected by oil $$.
Esp after your spiteful post.

Ignoring of all that, what are we to do ? Just say forget it and give up ?
If so, we won't last very long with that attitude. Yeah, your little bit
many not do a lot but it helps. And having the recycling attitude makes it
easier to adapt to new ideas and actions that REALLY help when they come 
along. (Remember it is not in human nature to accept change readily.)

If you think a little bit doesn't help ? Let's think about this. Why don't
you and everyone who doesn't recycle give me a dollar. Just one dollar.
Not too much, but I'm willing to bet I had have a nice little pile pretty
damn fast.

Sure some recyclying methods aren't all that efficient but they do reduce
our waste volume wise. With the problems that we have with landfills, that
is definitely something in the positive direction. 

|>The above is (c)1992 by Eric J. Huppertz.  

I certainly wouldn't have admitted to copywriting this.

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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: insurance claiming made easy
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:06:47 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Sep4.162954.5419@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>This goes out to all those people who never ever want to make an
>insurance claim for fear of their premium going up or having a bad rep
>with the agency or such things...
>
>[...] such a claim would have on my premium.  He explained to me that
>the ONLY time premium goes up after a claim is when you claim an
>accident that YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR.  If you were charged on your
>record for the accident then that is the absolutely only time that the
>premium goes up after the claim.  He gauranteed me in writing that my
>premium will not go up after I make a comprehensive claim.  I then asked

Depends.

Back in 1986 my wife hit a van (small damage on our car, no damage on the
van) when she was not able to stop on a patch of solid ICE during an
ICE storm in Michigan. She tried to turn but the car went straight...
The other car was undamaged and filed no claims. 

Anyhow, the police did NOT give her a ticket or points or anything,
yet our insurance went up. In the agent's words, "if you pay the
deductible, it's your fault". We did pay the deductible. 

>Just an interesting experience to show there are good sides to even an
>insurance agent!

Since you insist (:-)) here's a mandatory horror story; our insurance
was with a well respected company in the midwest thru an automobile
club (which one? the one with 3 same letters:-).. A couple of years
after that they decided to DUMP the carrier since they were not
getting any commisions. They sent everyone a letter informing them and
proposed a switch to a new company at a rather higher cost. 

I called the company myself and continued the coverage thru a
different agent.... And saved the (worthless) membership club fee as well.
($66 buys lots of maps a year)

Spiros



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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Strike at Saturn?
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:32:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Aug31.055039.28771@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>This will have miraculous results in Japan.  In the summer of 1991,
>the American gov't forbid any further Japanese contracts on public
>works projects in the USA until the Japanese opened up their public
>works projects to American companies.  There was a huge outcry
>from the Japanese gov't and American pseudo-free traders saying, "Those
>damn American bullies.  The Japanese can't meet the American ultimatum.
>There's just too much red tape and tradition."
>
>Well, after 3 days or so, the Japanese gov't suddenly discovered
>tons of public works projects on which American companies could bid,
>where the lowest bidder wins.  Gee.  Isn't that special?

Funny that you mention it; a new elementary school building in my 
hometown (Westfield, In, pop 10,000, middle-of-the-cornfields just-north
of-indianapolis, chevy-and-apple-pie-and -lots-of-flags) is being
built by Takanaka Engineering Corp, a Japanese owned company. 

Takanaka competed for and got the bid over two local (US) companies. Before
this, nobody had ever HEARD of them, they pretty much parachuted from
the sky and out-bid everyone else. The project's worth maybe 10 Mil. dollars.

Spiros



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From: R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: Strike at Saturn?
Organization: CSU
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:27:50 GMT

In article <bakc.123.715617822@giraffe.ru.ac.za>
bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN) writes:
 
>Assuming a "level playing field" free of formal and informal trade
>restrictions existed in Japan, and that Detroit engineered its current
>products to accommodate such basic needs as right-hand drive:  just what
>sort of market potential would exist for US vehicles in Japan?   Would
>legions of typical Japanese consumers flock to buy shiploads of '92
>Chevvies?
>
>Now THERE'S the essence of a free market!!!
>
>Cheers
>
>Keith
 
 
  A few years back when my sister was in Japan with the Air Force she picked
up a little extra money teaching English in a Japanese school.  One day when
the subject of "what our parents do for a living" came up the students found
out that her father worked for GM, specifically Chevrolet division, They
got very excited and wanted to know if he could get American cars for some
of them.
 
  Sounds like a few people are interested in our wares.
 
  Perhaps the US car companies do not invest in the parts and tooling to
build right hand drive versions of domestic market cars because the market
restrictions overseas would make them far too expensive.  ie they would never
be able to turn a profit after building the special cars and shipping them,
and paying the duty on them.  (if they did make RH drive cars what would the
people in Oz do in their spare time ;-)  )
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From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: BMW M3 VS. BMW 325
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:16:03 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <1992Aug24.184247.24199@cabot.balltown.cma.COM>
welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty) writes:
>Many are the drivers who bought an M3 who would have been much, much happier
>with a 325is.

I've seen, just based on how they drive, literally hundreds of examples of 
that statement, substituting M3/325is for the applicable vehicles.

	-Kenny
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From: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: DENTS IN CAR HOOD
Reply-To: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:23:48 GMT

> One rather STUPID one decided it would be cool to jump
> up on my hood and fool around.  Well needless to say he
> left a rather noticeable dent right in the center.
>
> My question is how easy is it to repair dents in a HOOD and
> second how much should I expect the STUPID one to pay for
> this damage.

Depending on the size of the dent you may be able to pull it out with a strong suction cup.  
It worked for me . . . Dave

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From: dmarshal@Stars.Reston.Unisys.COM (Dave Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Saturn, Honda, and Japan
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:51:58 GMT
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Reston, VA

Just a few thoughts on some recent topics of discussion:

Saturn: Considering the strike at the GM parts plant, I don't think it's
as simple as a "union bad" thing.  Not that I am any sort of a UAW supporter,
but isn't kind of dumb for GM to have so much production dependent on one
plant?  I suppose it's cheaper to do it that way, but what would GM do if
an earthquake hit that plant or it burned down?  It seems that they have
A LOT of eggs in that particular basket.

Honda: The esteemed Mr. Joe has put forth the argument that Honda Accords
should cost more in the US because Pontiac Grand Ams cost more in Japan.
Um, Honda Accords are made in America.  (At least a very large majority.)
Honda has been running a plant in Marysville, Ohio for 10 years.  Most of
the employees are Americans, and they tend to make better wages than their
UAW counterparts.  I remember reading last year that the '92 Accord is
considered to be an "American car" by US Government standards.  I believe
that status results when 75% of the parts are manufactured in the US.

Not only are the Accords you see here made here, but they are also exported
to Japan.  A separate assembly line at the Marysville plant converts cars
to right-hand steering wheels.  (Take note, Ford, GM, and Chrysler!)

Japan:  Not that this really belongs in rec.autos, but I read in US News
& World Report a few months ago that it is the US that has the greater
barriers to free trade, significantly higher than Japan.  (The comparison
was made on the basis of higher tariffs for imported goods.)  The US has
a lot of tariffs on such things as agricultural products, textiles, and the
like.  That's all I know - if you want more, look it up yourself.
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From: rll@frieda.mitre.org (Roberto L. Landrau)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Nissan Quest or Mecury Villager (Mini-Vans) Info
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:02:05 GMT
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA

The Nissan Quest and the Mercury Villager were listed in one of the
magazines as having the exact same curb weight, horsepower, etc.  The
also look alike a lot.  What is the connection?  Is it a joint effort
between Ford and Nissan?



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