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From: dpayton@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM (Doug Payton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: ':' line in scripts
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:33:25 GMT
Organization: Quality Consultants, Inc.

I've seen, on occasion, scripts that begin with the line

:

which, as I recall, is simply 'true'.  Sometimes I've seen

#!/bin/sh
:

...but the ':' is still there.

What is it's purpose?  Does it init the shell to a known state?
-- 
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From: naren@tekig5.pen.tek.com (naren)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Replacing words
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:08:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

Hi,

I was trying to replace occurrences of XXX with another word YYY.
I was able to do it two ways.

1.  I went into the vi editor.
    /XXX
   [ESC] cw
   Then I kept hitting n and .

2. I wrote a macro in vi.
The basic structure was as follows.
map v: /XXX cw YYY 

3. I tried out a third one.
This one did not work for some reason.

:$s /XXX/YYY/g

If anyone can come up with better ways, email me

Naren
email address: naren%tekig5.pen.tek.com@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: anibal@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (Anibal Jodorcovsky)
Subject: Re: checking for mail from shell (GOT IT!!!)
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:44:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.134158.5814@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> I wrote:
>
>Hi all!!!
>
>I am trying to check from .login if I have mail.
>BUT, it's not just mail what I want to do, since
>I want to specify an if...then sort of thing 
>IN CASE I have mail.
>
>Does anybody know which variable I have to check for
>in order to get a proper condition to use it in an
>if...then-like statement????

Well since I posted this article I got a couple of answers,
all of them working fine, and finally got my little program
running ok!
They suggested (among other things):
mail -e

if (-f /usr/spool/anibal)

using the 'from' program and piping to a file

I finally used the 2nd. one but want to thanks:

-twpierce@unix.amherst.edu
-newton@wilbur.psu.edu
-leo@ine.philips.nl
-gruc02.nor.chevron.com!hmjem@uunet.uu.net

Thanks again!!

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From: dkowalsk@usdsd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Dennis Kowalski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: MAKE -k option
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:28:15 GMT
Reply-To: dkowalsk@usdsd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Dennis Kowalski)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR USG Data Services Division



 On page 39 of "Managing Projects with MAKE" ISB 0-937-175-18-8
 by Steve Talbott, he explains the -k option.
 He says, when the -k is used, make will cmmpile all the components, but
 not produce a new target if any component had errors.
 It works just as explained, but I have one question.

 Take the following example:

   progx:  x.o  y.o  z.o

 With the -k option in effect all 3 programs (x,y,z) will compile even though
 x and/or y has errors.  That way all the errors show up, not just the 1st one.
 The link will be bypassed and no new progx produced.
 This is all just as I want it to work.

 My problem is that when the -k option is in effect, make exits with a status
 of 0 even if there were errors.

 How can I compile all the modules and get a non-zero status if any of them
 had errors????

 By the way, I have several of the NUTSHELL books and highly recommend
 them to others. They are the best.


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Systems Architecture    1700 S. Patterson Blvd              VOICEplus 622-1843
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Subject: Re: U.S. Naval Observatory and AtomClock
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:05:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: D'Arcy Cain Consulting

[First of all please don't post to a world wide group and direct followups
to a local one.  I have changed the Newsgroups line back to c.u.q. so that
rn doesn't choke trying to find dc.general.]

snolan@marge.hq.af.mil writes:
>There was an application named "AtomClock" that would
>use you modem to dial a number in DC that once belonged
>to the US Naval Observatory in NW DC.  Their number
>would answer the phone with a 1200 or 2400 baud modem
>transmitting the exact time according to the Earth Clock.

It's still there.  I call them once a week to keep my clock correct.  They
only use 1200 baud but there is so little to transmit so you usually wind
up under the minimum anyway.  I duplicate the service locally (Of course
not quite as accurately with my PC) and here is an example of the output
on Sun Sep 13 10:49:27 EDT 1992 (That makes it 14:49:27 UTC)

48878 257 144927 UTC
*
48878 257 144928 UTC
*
48878 257 144929 UTC
*
48878 257 144930 UTC
*
48878 257 144931 UTC
*
48878 257 144932 UTC
*
48878 257 144933 UTC
*
48878 257 144934 UTC
*
48878 257 144935 UTC
*
48878 257 144936 UTC
*
48878 257 144937 UTC
*

After parsing the date out of this I use setclk to set my system clock.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra)
Subject: Re: question on reviving background process
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:10:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.231151.22448@leland.Stanford.EDU> jeganath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Muthuveerappan Jeganathan) writes:
>
>Hello everyone, hope this is the appropriate group for the following 
>question. Suppose, I run a process in the background and then logout 
>with the process still running. Is it possible to bring that process 
>to the foreground when I log in again. If yes, how do I do that? 
>By the way, I am using a SUN SPARCstation IPC - if that matters.
>
	Your question is answered in the UNIX FAQ (#37). The most common
applications to use are screen or pty. Query the archie server for the
ftp sites to get them. I use screen all the time. It is a very useful
utility!

-tms

 

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: subbarao@tex.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao)
Subject: Re: SED GURUS: Some Newline Questions
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.230603.1267@ncsu.edu> fester@mamushka.ncsu.edu (Cousin It) writes:
>
>Hi sed people.  For a project I'm working on, I'm trying to
>figure out how to insert newlines in sed.  Man pages were
>virtually useless, although I did determine that the "N"
>might be necessary.  Here's the scenario:

Heh. Newlines with sed often pose problems. That's why I often say (and do)
"Just use perl." But I'll bite. Just for the fun of it, I'll also give a perly 
answer.

>1)  In the input text, lines ending with a semicolon need to have 
>    a right bracket and newline inserted:
>
>--before--
>start
>{ THIS IS LINE 1;
>{ THIS IS LINE 2;
>end
>
>--after--
>start
>
>{ THIS IS LINE 1; }
>
>{ THIS IS LINE 2; }
>
>end
>
>I've got this much:
>
>   sed -e 's/;$/; \}/'
>                  ^necessary?
>  
>Adding \n, \\n, or \\\n was fruitless.

Remember, inserting a newline is as simple as hitting return :-)

For bourne-ish shells:

$ sed 's/;$/; }\
/' filename

For the csh family: (Or like me, for zsh with cshjunkiequotes set)

% sed 's/;$/; }\\
/' filename

The perlier version:

% perl -pe 's/;$/; }\n/' filename

>2)  Next, I need to delete a newline from text:
>
>--before--
>start
>TITLE 1 | |
>subtopic
>
>end
>
>--after--
>start
>TITLE 1 | | subtopic
>
>end
>
>Any ideas?  

Easy in perl:

perl -pe 'chop if 'TITLE 1 \| \|/' filename

As to a sed solution, well, I'll defer to some sed expert who can post a
cleaner version than what I would have posted. Just use perl.

I've tried rewriting the whole thing in awk and perl,
>but it didn't work properly in awk, and I don't know perl well 
>enough to get the thing to work in perl, although I did try the
>s2p program.  Awk was a _lot_ easier to learn than perl, 
>at least for me...

I'm not sure what the general form of 'TITLE 1 | |' is, but you could use
regular expressions in perl to do that.

Aw, come on -- give perl a try. Sit down with the Camel book for an afternoon 
and you'll soon be well on your way.

	-Kartik
From: zzang@stat.ufl.edu (Zhuo Zang)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: What is Beta-test ?
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:35:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Florida
Originator: zzang@manta

Hello,
I often see some softwares in their release notes
say that this is a Beta-test version .
What is it this Beta-test ?
What kind of features it has?
Is it available to the public for testing the program?

Thanks in advance!
-- 
Zhuo Zang[~{j0WA~}]
Department of Statistics
University of Florida            Email: zzang@stat.ufl.edu
From: maloy@kittyhawk.noarl.navy.mil (Bill Maloy)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Reading VMS Backup Tapes under Unix
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:00:52 GMT


Does anyone know of a means of transfering a large file system
from VAX/VMS to Unix (SGI and/or Sun)?  I'm aware of VMS TAR
and have used it to transfer relatively small quantities of files
(and subdirectories), but now I need to transfer data on the
order of a "removable disk pack" before a certain VMS machine
gets unplugged in two weeks.  If there were a utility available
which could read VMS savesets from 9 track tapes, I think this
would become a non-problem. Thanks in advance...
Please EMail to jmaloy@noarl.navy.mil
From: cavers@menudo.uh.edu (Chris M. Cavers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: fs.h
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:10:57 GMT
Organization: University of Houston

Can someone email me the correct include file to include 
before you include the file fs.h.  this is for sun os 4.1.2.
I keep getting an undefined symbol of 'MAXFRAG'.

Thanks.

P.s. email me the answer
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: work@tasha.guug.de (Felix Blank)
Subject: Re: missing nroff in SYSVR4
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:25:15 GMT

johe@pbutv.pb.se (Jonas Heyman) writes:


>Hi,

>In our distribution for SYSV4 we didn't get nroff (DG/UX on a AV8000).
>I need this for our local man-pages.

>Anybody have the same problem ? Is there source out there for nroff ?

Some vendors make a separete package for the BSD stuff, usually called
BSD compatibility package. Make sure, you have loaded this packed.
nroff should be there.
-- 
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From: probreak@goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: HELP !!! JOB INTERVIEW TIME !!!!!!
Date: 12 Sep 1992 18:34:21 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu

bat@dstos3.dsto.gov.au writes:





>			HELP !!!

>Can anyone give me a summary of the following items.

>SMTP mail, the news data base and its structure,

Pull down the rfc's for these from an ftp site
> AARNET and other internet facilities and what is the difference between Domain Name Service and 
>Distributed Name Service.

There should be either an rfc or a general guide to these at the same site
you pull the rfc's for the above.

>Its amazing what you can become an expert in at job interviews isn't it !!
Just try to avoid lying, it's amazing how many future employers may read this.


>				Brenton

>				BAT@DSTOS3.DSTO.GOV.AU


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Signal Handling with GCC
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 13:17:16 GMT


Any references made to process signal handling bombs out GCC 2.2.2. This is
the errors I receive when compiling BASH 1.12 with GCC. It compiles fine
with with MSC (CC) except that it runs slow. Any suggestions on the following
would be appreciated. I would like to compile our list server with GCC.
I get the same errors or similiar errors with GCC when compiling it.

Example:

In file included from shell.h:21, from shell.c:47:

/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386--sco/2.2.2/include/setjmp.h:70: `sigset_t' undeclare

d, outside of functions

shell.c:142: parse error before `top_level_mask'

shell.c:142: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

shell.c: In function `main':

shell.c:667: `ENOENT' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:667: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once

shell.c:667: for each function it appears in.)

shell.c:708: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast

shell.c: In function `maybe_execute_file':

shell.c:845: `ENOENT' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c: In function `reader_loop':

shell.c:911: storage size of `act' isn't known

shell.c:915: `SIGALL' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c: In function `read_command':

shell.c:1067: `SIGALRM' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c: In function `termination_unwind_protect':

shell.c:1307: `SIGHUP' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c: In function `initialize_terminating_signals':

shell.c:1333: storage size of `act' isn't known

shell.c:1337: `SIGALL' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1349: `SIG_SETMASK' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1349: `sigset_t' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1349: parse error before `)'

shell.c:1353: `SIG_BLOCK' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1353: parse error before `)'

shell.c:1354: `SIGCLD' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1364: `SIGQUIT' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c: In function `throw_to_top_level':

shell.c:1397: `SIG_SETMASK' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1397: `sigset_t' undeclared (first use this function)

shell.c:1397: parse error before `)'

*** Error code 1
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Subject: Re: Berkely Fast File System
Reply-To: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:38:06 GMT


In article <BuBvL6.2MJ@gumby.ocs.com>, obi@gumby.ocs.com (Kuryan "Obi" Thomas) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep9.025316.19275@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>,
>Could Alan or
>someone else discuss if any of this thinking is affected by SCSI disk
>drives and if so how? My understanding of SCSI drives is that they hide
>specifics like how many platters there are and so on. What's the strategy
>used for dealing with these "block-stream" devices?

My first cut at this showed me that my knowledge of disk driver
internals is sorely lacking.  My belief is that detailed knowledge
of the geometry of disk is much less important than it used to be.
Assuming you can get the underlying device to tell you the truth about
the geometry.  Certainly with the advent of read-ahead caches (and
write behind if you're that trusting) in drives read performance
is much less tied to geometry.  Does it really matter if you have
your transfers starting on track boundries, if the driver is reading
four or eight tracks ahead of you?

The basic principle guiding the organization by cylinder group
is to keep the data close together.  As long as the drive isn't
wildly lying about it's geometry, then it still good to keep the
data logically close together.  That file system and partition
boundries don't closely match up with supposed physical geometries
probably doesn't matter much, use the geometry that will make
best use of the available space.

One that has been made partially obsolute is the work done to
find the rotationally optimal location for a block.  On drives
with a read-ahead cache you don't block the spread out.  You
want them close together so the cache holds more of the data
in which you are interested.  If you do lots of sequential
writting then playing with the rotational latency may be worth
while, but you may hurt read performance later.

Recent improvements in the implementation of the Fast File System
by Sun and by DEC in ULTRIX V4.3 make this much less of a problem.
That will be the topic of my next post in this thread.  For now
I'm off to see "Unforgiven"...
>
--
Alan Rollow				alan@nabeth.cxo.dec.com
From: sedrez@icad.puc-rio.br (Paulo Francisco Sedrez)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re:  tn3270 request
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:15:30 GMT


>From info-unix-request@sem.brl.mil Wed Sep  9 05:16:08 1992
>Date:        Tue, 08 Sep 92 09:15:41 CDT
>From: "Donald Weihl Jr." <CW00%SIUEMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
>To: info-unix@BRL.MIL
>
>Hello,                                      June 10, 1992
>
>   I am looking for information on how to acquire tn3270.  I
>was wondering if it was available through anonymous FTP and if
>so from where.  SIUE would execute it on a MicroVAX II executing
>executing ULTRIX 2.3 (at the moment).  Any information will be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks in Advance.
>
>
>Donald Weihl Jr.
>
>Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville (SIUE)
>Computer Science Department
>BITNET:    cw00@siuemus.bitnet
>Internet:  weihld@vax3.siue.edu
>

You can try one of the sites for archie:
New Jersey	archie.rutgers.edu	128.6.18.15
Lincoln		archie.unl.edu		129.93.1.14
Michigan	archie.ans.net		147.224.1.2
Canada		archie.mcgill.ca	132.206.2.3
Australia	archie.au		139.130.4.6
Finland		archie.funet.fi		128.214.6.100
U.K./Elgland	archie.doc.ic.ac.uk	146.169.11.3

Telnet to one of the sites, then type:
prog tn3270

This will give you the list of sites and directories where you can find the
program. The command 'help' will give you a list of valid commands.

Or e-mail to archie@<site>, no subject, commands to archie in the message.

Hope this can help you.
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From: sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: question on reviving background process
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:44:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cegb_oi00awJI3nox6
	<1992Sep12.191010.24946@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.unix.questions: 12-Sep-92 Re: question on
reviving ba.. John Navarra@casbah.acns (1002)
> 	Your question is answered in the UNIX FAQ (#37). The most common
> applications to use are screen or pty. Query the archie server for the
> ftp sites to get them. I use screen all the time. It is a very useful
> utility!

> -tms

>  

> -- 
> You can get further with a kind word | You can get further with a kind word
> and a gun than a kind word alone.    | and a phaser than a kind word and a gun.
>           --al capone                |           -- John Navarra
> =======From the Lab of the MaD ScIenTIst....navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu========


And now, the unavoidable question: where is this FAQ
and, in general, how can I find a FAQ for a given subject
(I think this is also a faq)

	Stefan Monnier

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From: chandler@beagle.UUCP (Jim Chandler)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: missing nroff in SYSVR4
Summary: Install the BSD Compatability Package and it should be there
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:55:57 GMT
Organization: None

In article <1992Sep9.200108.13125@pb.se>, johe@pbutv.pb.se (Jonas Heyman) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In our distribution for SYSV4 we didn't get nroff (DG/UX on a AV8000).
> I need this for our local man-pages.
> 
> Anybody have the same problem ? Is there source out there for nroff ?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any reply, Jonas,
> 
> -- 
> 
>    /johe@pbutv.pb.se/
-- 
Jim Chandler
ames!infopro!beagle!chandler
jwc@sactoh0.sac.ca.us <--- best chance
KD6IRV	147.195
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: liuxu@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Xudong Liu)
Subject: Grtool--LaTeX ??
Originator: liuxu@secfs
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:02:59 GMT

Anyone can tell me a way to incorporate the figures produced
by Grtool into LaTeX file and have them printed?

Does "Transfig" do this converting job?

Thanks in advance for any hints and directions.
From: jzwiebel@pgl-devsvr.den.mmc.com (John Zwiebel (303)977-1480)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: MH and UNIX groups
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:21:19 GMT
Organization: PAGE @ Martin-Marietta

I've been running MH(xmh) on the RS6000 for several year with no trouble.
But, I now have a SPARC station that mounts the same directory (/usr/spool/mail)
that I was using on the RS6000.  MH comes installed on AIX but not in my
SPARC.  I built MH and it is working fine _except_ for one little problem
that messes everything up.  It changes my unix group name.

My maildrop in usr/spool/mail is

	jzwiebel   mail    jzwiebel

If I run inc (the MH command) it reads in any mail in my drop but when it
recreates the maildrop file it changes the group 

	jzwiebel   comm    jzwiebel

This is probably something really dumb on my part but I can't find it.
I tried to follow the source in inc.c but if the answer is there it isn't
obvious to me.  I looked into all the configuration files that come with
MH and compared them with the RS6000 files.  No luck.  I also double checked
/etc/group and they seem to be correct.

Is there something other than MH I sould be looking at?  

Thanks 
John Zwiebel 
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