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From: nigel@socs.uts.edu.au (Nigel Pearson)
Subject: Re: Help with building a Mac
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  2 Sep 92 00:37:47 GMT

In <5898@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> jflet@dir.mcc.ac.uk writes:

>Does anyone have experience with building their own Mac from spares ?
>I've heard that using secondhand logic boards, analog boards, pc case, etc
>and wiring them together, that its possible to get a cheap system up and
>running.

	There is a book called "Build your own Mac and Save a Bundle" which
I have. It contained a lot of good stuff. Also one for upgrading your Mac,
which was written a little later on, has a chapter on building your own.

	If you need the Author/Publisher/ISDN, email me.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cliff@spdcc.com (Cliff Spencer)
Subject: rocket 25i => rocket?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:26:52 GMT

Is it possible to upgrade a rocket 25i to a standard rocket 25 by adding 
a FPU? Is this something that is built into the '040? 
						-cliff
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From: johnL@radius.com (John H. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: what version radius rocketware??
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: johnL@radius.com (John H. Lee)
Organization: Radius Inc. / San Jose, CA

The latest version is v1.3.2 and is available through Radius Support, our 
dealer network or from AppleLink.

We have yet to become an ftp site.  One day...


John Lee
Radius Developer Services



Internet:  rds@radius.com
AppleLink:  RADIUS.RDS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: LanRover/L For Sale
Keywords: LanRover LanRover/L Shiva ARA
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:09:37 GMT

I have for sale one brand new, in box, never opened LanRover/L. No, it is
not stolen. In fact, I won it, but I don't need it. What I need is some
new furniture! 

No, I'm not looking to trade my LanRover/L for your old couch. I want
cold, hard cash (well warm, soft cash will also do just fine). I haven't
set a price yet. If you're interested, find the best street price (not
hot) you can get and I'll beat it. 

Please keep in mind that I'm in Vancouver, Canada, so to avoid Customs
hassles, I would rather sell to someone in Canada. 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: Need Mac+ Help
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:11:35 GMT

Strange.  DId you make sure the mouse button is not held down during start-up?


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From: todd@crayola (Todd Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: upgrading powerbook 100 q.
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:22:54 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

So if you get a Powerbook 100 2/20, how hard is it to
find a larger harddisk - is 60 mg. available, for example, and where do  
you get it.

Thanks in advance.

- - todd katz
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I hold off for PhotoCD?\
Keywords: PhotoCD CD ROM
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:39:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Aug30.053954.1629
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <scott.714883764@mcl> scott@mcl.ucsb.edu (Scott Bronson) writes:
>I have the money I need to buy a CD ROM drive (many months of saving,
>but now I can access the information I need).  I would like to hold off
>until PhotoCD compatilble drives arrive, but nobody around here seems
>to know when they will get here.

It would be pretty zany for Kodak to introduce a CD ROM storage medium
which wasn't compatible with the CD ROM media and drives already out there.
I'd be mighty surprised if PhotoCDs weren't standard CD ROMs with files
written in ISO9660 format.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: agoodrid@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Stephen Klautky)
Subject: New SIMMs for LC better?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:38:00 GMT

Hi,

There are new 4 Mb SIMMS for the MacLC listed in mail order
catalogs.  The tech personnel say that these are better than the
standard 4 Mb SIMMS.  But I would like to hear from some other
sources of information.

In some catalogs the "older" SIMMS are cheaper than the new
version of SIMMS for the LC.

Is there a distinct advantage to buying the newer SIMMS?

Thanks for any information.
Post or reply by e-mail.


-=] Steve [=-      AGOODRID@VAXA.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ccw@prefect.uucp (26554-wood)
Subject: Re: Memory Question
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 16:06:04 GMT
Keywords: Memory

In article <1992Aug27.152034@IASTATE.EDU> chili@IASTATE.EDU (Matthew S Carney) writes:
>Dear Net BrainTrust,

[Upgrading SIMMS...]

>They were
>not the usual SIMMS that I was expecting, but rather, they
>only had 2 memory chips on each SIMM instead of the usual 8.
>My question is, what is up this this type of SIMM. I have never
>heard of nor seen them before. Any info would be welcomed.

Simple... These are 256K SIMMs that are built out of one-megabit dram
chips, that are configured to "store" 256K addresses x 4 bits in each
chip.  Electrically, they're identical to any other 256K SIMM with the
same speed... Technology marches on.  I believe I've seen 1 Meg SIMMs
that only have two chips on them, so they were built out of 4 megabit
drams, set up as 1 Meg x 4 bits... (Comparing the 256K x 4 with the 1
Meg x 1, the x4 chips are a little more complicated than the x1 chips,
so they get introduced a little later, after manufacturers get the
x1 chips into production...

>	Thanks in advance,
>				Matt.

you're welcome.

Chris

Chris Wood     Bellcore     ...!bellcore!prefect!ccw
                         or ccw@prefect.cc.bellcore.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu (Dongseok Choi)
Subject: Daystar Powercache + Supermac Spectrum PDQsi for MacIIsi?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:48:53 GMT

Hello, netters?

 I posted question recently whether Powercache and a video card 
 can be used for MacIIsi at the same time.
 Two netters kindly reply to me their bad experience with Powercache and
 Supermac 8.24 PDQsi.
 They said they could not make both work together, although they worked
 fine separately. They said they tried last summer.

 But Daystar claimed(today Aug. 28 1992) that they tested
 Supermac Spectrum 8.24 PDQsi
 Supermac Spectrum 8 PSD(?)
 E-machine Tx-si
 and those video cards are working fine with their Powercache + IIsi adapter.
 (I think their adapter for IIsi has second slot for another PDS card.)

 My question is that Supermac or Daystar solved the problem hence
 Powercache and Spectrum 8.24 PDQsi are working together now?

 Could you give me your advice/opinion/recent experience?
 Is there anybody who use  any kind of dualport slot adapter for IIsi
 successfully with any two PDS cards?

Thank you in advance,

Choi
choi@galton.uchicago.edu
choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: whit@milton.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore)
Subject: Re: PC -> Mac+ mouse conversion?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:51:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.162626.10136@hawk.cs.ukans.edu> stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs) writes:

>It's time to find a new mac mouse for a MacPlus.  I think I should be
>able to convert a serial mouse for a PC to work on the Mac. Has anyone 
>tried this, or does anyone know the pinout?

	The MacPlus mouse is just like a raw mouse mechanism; if you
remove the 'smarts' from a PC mouse, it will just plug into the MacPlus
(I've done this for trackballs, as well).

	There are two signals for H, two for V, and one for the
mouse button; the mouse button is connected to an NO switch to
ground, and has a pullup resistor (2.7k ohms is about right).

Mouse pinout:
Macintosh Mouse Connector (DB-9)
Pin     Name            Description/Notes
1       Ground
2       +5V             See Macintosh Hardware chapter for power limits
3       GND             Ground
4       X2              Horizontal movement line (connected to VIA PB4 line)
5       X1              Horizontal movement line (connected to SCC DCDA- line)
7       SW-             Mouse button line (connected to VIA PB3)
8       Y2              Vertical movement line (connected to VIA PB5 line)
9       Y1              Vertical movement line (connected to SCC DCDB- line)


	Early mice had no logic whatsoever; later mice had a CMOS
inverter/buffer (74HC14 type) driving each of the signal lines.
Except for the button connection, and of course the power/ground lines,
polarity is irrelevant; if the mouse operates 'backward', just 
interchange the two 'movement line' connections.

	PC mice will consist of a mouse/trackball type mechanism
and a smart chip; you want to connect on the INPUT side of that
chip (which is superfluous).

	John Whitmore
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jochenw@akela.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters)
Subject: Re: LC video RAM upgrade
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  3 Sep 92 11:02:28 GMT

Mark.J..Sisson@p842.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mark J. Sisson) writes:


> I do not think that the 512K VRAM SLOWS the computer down at ALL! The whole
> idea behind a separate VRAM is that it does NOT intrude on the RAM that you
> have installed to deal with applications! Unless you haave some knowledge
> that no one else in the Mac world has....I think you're coming up Short on
> the facts.

  Unfortunately, quite a few netters writing to the Mac newsgroups start to
insult other folks as soon as they think that the other one got something
wrong. Why don't you just spend that wasted energy on fact-based discussion?
  So, back to the topic, here's what I'd say about the "VRAM case" :-):
the VRAM itself does not slow the machine down. However, the speed of the
machine depends on the color depth that you're using: The more bits per
pixel the machine has to deal with, the slower it gets, since the Mac still
uses its main processor to look after what's happening on the screen. If you
compare b/w mode with 8-bit color, you'll definitely notice a slight (!) loss
of speed, when the machine is manipulating the screen output. If, however,
the Mac is simply doing some numbercrunchung without much visual output, the
speed will not be affected by the color settings.
  
  Jochen.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: simm speed affect powercache?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:05:06 GMT

In article <92246.202912FQV@psuvm.psu.edu> jim bowers <FQV@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I'm thinking of getting a 33 Mhz Powercache for my Mac II.  Will the
>slow simms in my Mac affect performace?  Is it worth it to get 80 ns Simms?

Faster SIMMS will make absolutely *no* difference.  Your computer will
access the SIMMS at exactly the same speed, even though the SIMMS are
capable of being accessed more rapidly.

The PowerCache has 32K of 25ns static RAM cache on board, and it *will*
access this RAM cache at full speed (i.e. no wait states).  Since your
most often-used memory is kept in this cache, it's nearly as good as if
all of your RAM were accessed that fast.

So you can take the money you would have spent on SIMMS and get a 40mhz
PowerCache instead! :-)

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: ncollins@cray.com (Nathan Collins)
Subject: Mac LC questions                                     
Summary: question on current LC hardware 
Keywords: LC 
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:31:54 CDT

I'm new at the Mac world, and currently have a chance of getting a
Mac LC 4/80 with monitor for about $1000. It's 3 months old, and would
be from a reliable source (friend).

I've heard talk about LC's and LCII's, what's the difference?

Also, I know that expansion is limited, is there just one slot open?
All I can think of for expansion is a CD ROM right now, how would that hook
up?

This would be a personal/family machine, so I wasn't too worried about speed,
but I have seen some nice games (esp. HotP!!) that I like. Will they run on
the LC ok?

Now I see the new Mac's announced on this forum, the Perfoma, should I 
wait and see? 

thanks for any help/advice/experience. Please email me, I will post a
summary if I get a lot of data.


-- 
Nate Collins                           "I speak for myself, not my corporation,
Field Engineer -  Cray Research, Inc.      and not for you, just for me."
e-mail:    ncollins@techops.cray.com    Located in the greater Pittsburgh area
From: dan@Apple.COM (Dan Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PowerBook 140 to 145 ???
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:12:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Does anyone know if a PowerBOok 140 can be easily upgraded to 
a 25 MHz clock like the 145 has?

Dan ALlen

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jblue@mwunix.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Powerbook 100
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:45:16 GMT

Robert Rumpf <rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

>I just found out that Citibank is offering their customers the Apple PowerBook 
>100 2/20 configuration with external floppy for something like $699...it's in 
>their latest Citibank CitiDollar$ catalog.

>Bob

At this rate, I expect the next C.O.M.B. catalog to start offering the
PowerBook 100!

Jason
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From: scott@mcl.ucsb.edu (Scott Bronson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Should I hold off for PhotoCD?\
Keywords: PhotoCD CD ROM
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:49:24 GMT

I have the money I need to buy a CD ROM drive (many months of saving,
but now I can access the information I need).  I would like to hold off
until PhotoCD compatilble drives arrive, but nobody around here seems
to know when they will get here.

Are PhotoCD-compatible drives within a year of getting here?
Thanks!

	- Scott
From: gsgathin@SACAM.OREN.ORNL.GOV (golando s gathings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Wanted: appletalk printer setup help
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:00:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: sacam.9209030900.AA07852



	I need to know if there are any dip switch setting
to change on either the apple imagewriter 2 or the the
apple desk or stylewriter when one is installing these system on
 a network.  Any help will be greatly appreciated .

Golando
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: WANTED: Mac Plus Fans for Non-Profit AIDS Info Archive ... THANKS
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:40:47 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

I have a regular AC fan that I had tie-strapped and soldered into my Plus at
one time.  I can send that along to you if you need it.  Let me know.


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From: Eric.Choi@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: Wierd Mac SE/30 serial port problem
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:31:08 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

No big deal. Usually I turn the modem off and then on, or quite the
program and re-launch. With so many INITs and System 7, once in awhile 
something like that happen. Is yours consistent or just once in a
awhile?


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 Eric Choi - Internet: Eric.Choi@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:41:55 -0400 
From: John Hamilton Slye <jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: PLEASE STOP (AKA Stress Release)
	<l9on3hINN7tl@nada.cs.utexas.edu>


>From: benkei@cs.utexas.edu (William Kent Richards)
>Subject: Re: PLEASE STOP  (AKA Stress Release)
>Date: 26 Aug 1992 23:39:13 -0500
> 
>In article <1992Aug24.224252.23709@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca 
>(Connie Cho) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug24.100307.1583@pro-freedom.cts.com>
svsolanalos@pro-freedom
>.cts.com (Sheldon Nalos) writes:
>>>Well, I see you are one of those people that can't stand a debate between
>>>two or several people about anything then why bother reading it... You knew
>>>that the title was "Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?" so why bother
>>>reading it then having a fit when its a debate... I know this is not a
>>>debate net but everyone on the net has the right to discuss disadvantages
>>>and advantages of things in the correct area. What I'm really saying is,
>>>"Vent your stress somewhere else."
> 
>>This posting is ridiculous. The original poster was angry because
>>the contents of the postings had evolved into a line of System 6 vs.
>>System 7, which *had absolutely nothing to do with IIsi*. I too
>>own an si, and I too was getting fed up with the misleading subject
>>line. I have no problems with difference of opinion, but I don't
>>want ot waste my time scanning an irrelevant article.
> 
>Just a gentle observation:
> 
>Then don't.  That's kind of like going back to a polluted well over
>and over thinking that someday it might become unpolluted.  Is every
>article that has IIsi in the title relevent to your situation?  After
>so many times of doing something and not getting the results I want, I
>stop doing it.  So kill the thread and read the next article about
>IIsi's.  There's so much info going through this net that if you kill
>one thread there will be soon several more with info that you find
>useful.  And to speed up the process, you can start threads yourself
>with specific questions.
> 
>-- 
> 
>Kent Richards                         "Practice random acts of kindness
>benkei@cs.utexas.edu                   and senseless beauty"
 
I was the original poster of "PLEASE STOP". The reason I was fed up with
it was:
1) a misleading title &
2) the debate had become pointless, it was like two kids sitting there saying
    "I know you are, but what am I?" to each other.

All I wanted was the information orginally posted, which was promptly
sent to me by the person who started the thread and he said that even he
was getting tired of it.

But this is going to be my last input in the matter because I can see
that this thread is going to get just as pointless...



=========================================================================
J. Hamilton Slye (jsbr@andrew.cmu.edu) 1071 Morewood Ave., Pgh, Pa. 15213

The opinions stated above do not necessarily reflect those of the author!

"Oooohhhh no! Forget that stuff!"  -  Ren Hoek, "The Ren & Stimpy Show"
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From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem:  SE formats HD floppy as DD, but LC rejects it...why?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 19:02:51 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:

BK> (The only Macs that can't cope with high density disks were 
BK> discontinued four years ago.) 

The last Mac that couldn't cope with HD disks--the Mac Plus--was discontinued
not quite two years ago, in October 1990, with the advent of the Classic, LC,
and IIsi.

--Adam--
 
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From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LC video RAM upgrade
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:46:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug30.214654.1893
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


    I have an LC with "256k video RAM, upgradable to 512k" as quoted by the
"Features" pamphlet that came with my LC. Do I needa special board or
anything additional, or can I go out an buy the 512k RAM and plug it right
in? 
              Thanks. hue@pro-freedom.cts.com
                      (scott hudziak)

ProLine:  hue@pro-freedom
Internet: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!hue
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Eric.Choi@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: RE: First boot after powerup fails
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:21:46 GMT

Glen, Alien 4 virus? We just updated our program for T4 and Chinatalk
viruses. What is Alien 4?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: Suggestions Wanted: backup devices, colour printer
Reply-To: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:25:59 GMT

Hello folks,

I am looking for suggestions and comments for the following products:

1) A decent backup device for daily back up of HUGE amount of files scattered throughout a 20 to 40 Macs network (almost all machines are on Ethernet). We are currently using a WangDAT drive with Retrospect, but the performance is very slow (took 70 hours to restore 120MB of files spread out on two DATs) and we are also concerned about the rather short shelf life of the DAT (less than 2 years). We have also come across less-than-reliable DATs on a regular basis (we use high quality DATs too). I would be in





terested in hearing your experience and suggestions on other backup alternatives such as WORM, R/W MOD, other brands of DAT drives, etc.

2) A decent quality but reasonably low cost tabloid-size (11x17) colour inkjet printer for the Macintosh. I am especially interested in those based on the Cannon BJ800 and where is the best place to buy from.

Thanks.

Joe
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phone 16046874636 / fax 16046871671	Canada
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From: HARM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: new prices; when?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:54:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I would like to find out when the new prices are going to be announced
     for the Apple Hardware.
I have heard that on 10-15-92 when the new machines are available, the
     new prices will be announced.
I have heard that on 9-15-92 the new prices will be announced so that
     the current inventories may be decreased to make space for new machines.
If someone knows, please post.
                              Thank you for your time.   Jim.
From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: What's the best monitor comparable to an Apple 13"?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:08:34 -0500

 
  BK> What's the best Macintosh monitor comparable to an Apple
  BK> thirteen-inch?  I'm looking for color, at least 640x480, and a price
  BK> of $600 or less (or else I'll go for the $660 Apple monitor).

The apple 13" monitor is currently been sold by the superstore MicroCenter in
Virginia for the price of $529. Hard to beat at that price.