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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Charge Card for ticket purchase (Q)
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:58:06 GMT

Anand.Rao@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Anand Rao) wrote: 
->My travel agent booked round-trip tickets to India (British Air) for me. 
->However, she told me that she can not accept charge card for British
->Air... She would accept credit card if the tickets were booked on
->Lufthansa.  What's the deal?!  

sounds like your travel agent is  dealing with a consolidator ... some
consolidators won't accept payment with credit cards ...

if the fare on lufthansa is the same (or close) to the fare of the
british airways flight then pay with the credit card ... i would
*always* hesitate to pay for airline travel with a check unless i felt
absolutely certain that all parties would be able to perform when i
needed to fly.  we know that british airways isn't going to go away
soon (well, i feel sure about this, anyway ... ); what you need to
find out (if you want to pay for this travel with a check) is how
reliable this travel agent is ... ask them if they are a member of
IATA or ASTA (member agencies have posted a bond and also have
insurance to deal with dishonored tickets in the event that the agency
goes out of business) ... and ask friends and neighbors if they have
dealt with this agent.

-> Should I be smelling a rat here? 

yes, especially if you are dealing with a travel agent you haven't
used before.

-> What about the travel insurance provided by the credit card companies?

credit card companies don't provide "travel insurance," generally;
they provide protection from *any* merchant who does not deliver
merchandise which was paid for with a credit card.  this is usually
good for sixty days from the date of purchase.  you can buy travel
insurance at travel agencies; this insurance covers changes to
non-refundable non-changable tickets in the event of emergency, etc.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: v064lnev@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Avatar)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Stewardess Speech
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:22:00 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

	I know this may be a really weird question, and this may not even be an
appropriate place to ask this, but, I'm going to anyway.

	I am trying to find one of those speeches that are given by the airline
stewardess to passengers prior to take off.  You know, like "Please stay
seated when the light..." etc etc.

	Could someone help me out please?  Thanks in advance...

--Zerxes
From: xguo@acsu.buffalo.edu (Xingang Guo)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Help me with the ticket price...
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:06:45 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

I'm a college student of SUNY at Buffalo and plan to travel to Austin(TX) in
Dec. 19-22, and will stay there for about 3 weeks, things like that I need
a roundtrip ticket. I think it's the time to make an order. Can anybody help
me to estimate the *price* of thus ticket so that I may plan money for it as
early as possible? I don't care of the departure time, even could I get a
midnight flight. I will greatly appreciated If there are some people who are
familiar with the current conditions such as the discount program and this air
line that could give me some suggestion.

Although I'm a new reader of this newsgroup, I find it quite interesting and
valuable. PLEASE answer me by e.mail or just post to this newsgroup.

Thanx in advance.

xguo@cs.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: tchen@ndcvx.cc.nd.edu (T. chen)
Subject: Q: standby tickets
Reply-To: tchen@ndcvx.cc.nd.edu (T. chen)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:48:22 GMT


I have seen some postings about standby tickets.
But I don't really know how to get them and use
them successfully.  Can anyone who has taken standby
flights several times give me some detailed
information and procedure about that? thanks.

reply email address: tchen@ndcvx.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: autry@sgistl.stlouis.sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Children's Airline Fares
Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:25:10 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sgistl.stlouis.sgi.com

I've been asked by a source that wishes to remain anonymous, to pass along
the following information regarding children's airline fares.  Please do
not reply to me regarding this information.  This information will appear
in the next FAQ posting.  My thanks to the source.  I made a total of two
very minor changes.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There seems to be both considerable interest and confusion about fares for
children and infants.  Every person (including babes in arms (though not,
as yet, fetuses, thank Harry Blackmun)) is supposed to have a separate
ticket.  Only people under 12 years old are allowed to travel on child
tickets, and sometimes only when accompanied by an adult.  Only infants
under two years old and accompanied by an adult are allowed to travel on
infant tickets.

An infant ticket does not entitle the holder to a seat.  A child ticket
does.  The full fare for a child is either 67% or 50% (depending on the
airline) of the full adult fare.  The full infant fare is always 10% of
the full adult fare.  Some discount adult fares allow child and infant
discounts--whether or not is specified in the fine print of the rules for
the particular fare basis.  In general, the cheaper the fare, the less
likely it is to allow child and infant discounts.  If a published fare
allows a child discount, it will be either 67% or 50%.  The infant fare is
always 10% of -- something.

Some consolidator fares allow child discounts, varying from 50 to 75 per
cent.  A few also allow infant discounts.

Ah.  We almost forgot taxes.  

The tax on a child or infant ticket is the same as the tax on an adult
ticket.  That is, 10% of the fare on a US domestic ticket, and in most
cases, a flat per ticket amount on international tickets; eg, US$28.
round trip from the US to anywhere else on a US airline.

What does all this mean?  If you're traveling with children or infants,
**tell your travel agent ***before*** they start trying to choose fares or
airlines**  The cheapest route for a single adult is frequently not the
cheapest route for a family, since the cheapest ticket may not allow a
child discount, whereas there may be a slightly more expensive route that
is much cheaper for children.   Infant tickets are so cheap anyway that
they rarely affect the choice of the best routing, but children's fares
often do.  Don't presume any fare allows a child discount, unless you've
specifically checked it out with a reliable source.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: davidcam@wam.umd.edu (David Gordon Campbell)
Subject: Mensch
Originator: davidcam@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:54:20 GMT

HERE'S WHAT I RECEIVED 
	From: henry@ads.com (Henry Mensch)
	Subject: Re: SELLING 1-WAY TICKET LA=>WASH,DC.
	
>>this isn't a forsale group; please keep this crap out of
>>rec.travel.air
	
What a nitwit, Mr. Mensch is!  I have used this newsgroup many times 
to sell tickets and to buy them.  Many friends of mine do, also.  Why
do people like SUPERmensch take such pleasure in being nasty?

My little 3-line posting wasn't bothering anyone.  The only reason to
have a group like this, is so that we all can fly a little cheaper.  The
aircarriers really screw you when you're trying to fly somewhere on short
notice.

Or, in my case, the fare structures were changed, so that if I want to change
my flight, I have to pay an extra $105.  So I offered my ticket on the net.
What's wrong with that!?

Anyway, I still have one 1-way ticket from LAX=>DC (BWI) for a male traveler.
I will sell it for $150 (o.b.o.)

Thanks, D. Campbell   
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: mdivya@world.std.com (Marigowda Divya)
Subject: Re: Help me with the ticket price...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ny
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:10:42 GMT

xguo@acsu.buffalo.edu (Xingang Guo) writes:

>I'm a college student of SUNY at Buffalo and plan to travel to Austin(TX) in
>Dec. 19-22, and will stay there for about 3 weeks, things like that I need
>a roundtrip ticket. I think it's the time to make an order. Can anybody help
>me to estimate the *price* of thus ticket so that I may plan money for it as
>early as possible? I don't care of the departure time, even could I get a
>midnight flight. I will greatly appreciated If there are some people who are
>familiar with the current conditions such as the discount program and this air
>line that could give me some suggestion.

>Although I'm a new reader of this newsgroup, I find it quite interesting and
>valuable. PLEASE answer me by e.mail or just post to this newsgroup.

>Thanx in advance.

>xguo@cs.buffalo.edu

American Express has a "Student Privileges Program" for college
students through which you can fly $129 to $189 roundtrip depending
on destination.  Tel# 1-800-545-5036

Hope you have an American Express card.

Disclaimer: I don't have anything to do with American Express; I
don't even have one.

divya (mdivya@world.std.com)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: smsriv@melkor.lerc.nasa.gov (Rakesh Srivastava)
Subject: Re: BAGGAGE AT CAROUSEL
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:18:04 GMT

In article <32-PCNews-120beta@hart.actrix.gen.nz> graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart) writes:
>RMNL69@paccvm.corp.mot.com (Les Aquino @ Motorola) once wrote....
>>This might be an FAQ.
>>Anyway, what prevents somebody (other passengers, airport personnel)
>>from taking your baggage at the airport's baggage claim carousel ?
>>Seems to me that anybody can get anything at that point.
>
>Usually nothing, except usually by time the baggage is on the carousel
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is not entirely true at some airports. There are security people
at these airports who do not let you walk out of the carousel area unless
they cross check the stub on your baggae and the stub on the ticket to ensure 
that you are taking the baggage you checked in. This is true of atleast two
airports Hopkins Airport in Cleveland and the airport in Atlanta. I don't 
know if this is a standard practice at most of the big airports.

Rakesh
smsriv@melkor.lerc.nasa.gov

>you're off the plane, and waiting for your bags, besides, the staff are
>much better off pilfering the freight area, or getting at your bags
>BEFORE they come off the plane :).
>
>The only exception to this seems to be international flights, and in
>that case you're picking up from a secure area, and have to go through
>customs to get out.
>----
>Graeme Hart                                     Telephone:  64 4 3829124  
>graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz                       Snail Mail: PO Box 11865    
>                                                            Wellington       
>                                                            New Zealand
>


Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: ajcueva@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Al Cuevas)
Subject: Re: BAGGAGE AT CAROUSEL
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:20:04 GMT
Summary: JFK

In article <1992Oct4.052243.7156@ads.com>, henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
> smsriv@melkor.lerc.nasa.gov (Rakesh Srivastava) wrote: 
> ->This is not entirely true at some airports. There are security people
> ->at these airports who do not let you walk out of the carousel area unless
> ->they cross check the stub on your baggae and the stub on the ticket ...
> 
> i've only seen this happen at ATL and LAX; i've never seen this happen
> at other big city airports (SFO, JFK, LGA, EWR, BOS, ...)

At JFK in the American claim area you HAVE to show your baggage claim
stubs or they won't let you out.  It's been that way for at least the
last couple of years.

Each airport or maybe even each airline does it different.

Al Cuevas
Pacific Bell
510-823-1498
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: vpmath1@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Ruth Radetsky)
Subject: Re: Another Point of View...
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:33:53 GMT

Sure, there was one internal flight (of about 10) where all we got
was bread and water, but more often we had champagne and caviar--and
the international service was definitely a big step up from TWA.

BTW--if there's anyone else out there who's shorter and rounder than
the average American:  I don't know whether the xSoviet average is
shorter than ours or not, but their median is certainly rounder--and
the seats reflect that--I haven't been so comfortable in the air
since I was a little girl (emphasis on the little:-)!


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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel
From: jadams@vixen.uucp (22475-adams)
Subject: ORD -> PHL 10/09 ticket for sale
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:44:27 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: United flight 236 @ 1350

I have the second half of a round trip which I can't exchange or do
anything with.  Since it is worth nothing, my plans have changed, any
offer greater than 0 will get this ticket.  The ticket is in my name, so
the user should be male in gender (Sorry about not having it issued as J
Adams).  Please respond via E-mail (see .sig below) as I am in Chicagoland
currently, but do check my mail almost everyday.  Thank you,

Jack (John) Adams		| Bellcore NVC 2Z-220
(908) 758-5372 {Voice}		| (908) 758-4389 {Facsimile}
jadams@vixen.bellcore.com	| kahuna@attmail.com
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: morgana@infonode.ingr.com (Angela Morgan)
Subject: Re: selling tickets on rec.travel.air
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:17:22 GMT

ruppen@lexis.qal.berkeley.edu (Not Obsessed) writes:

>Perhaps the posting of airline tickets for sale, particularly the OW tickets,
>wouldn't be so annoying if the posters of said articles would restrict
>an article's distribution to the local area nearest the ticket's originating
>airport? It makes no sense for someone in, for example, San Francisco to 
>have to read an article trying to sell a OW ticket from Atlanta to Chicago. It's
>a waste of time and the net's resources.

>Andy Ruppenstein (ruppen@qal.berkeley.edu)

I disagree.  Sometimes I fly out of cities far away from where I live,
for many different reasons (a couple of examples:  maybe I'm in
Philadelphia on a business trip and want to go to El Paso from there,
or perhaps I'm doing a multi-city trip and buy two separate roundtrip
tickets which are cheaper than one ticket connecting three cities).  So,
I'm always interested in seeing *all* airline tickets for sale.  And I'm
sure there are others on the net who feel the same way....

--angela


"To know and not to do is not yet to know."  --Zen saying
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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: BWI <-> Washington D.C. ground transport
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:26:08
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: solarium.aero.org


Recently there was a thread about the best way of getting from
Baltimore Airport to Downtown D.C. via ground transport.  If someone
saved these articles or has suggestions, please email me.

Thanks.
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From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: looking for ticket, SFO or OAK -> NYC or PHL
Date: 1 Oct 1992 04:52:33 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

Hi all -- just checking:

I need to travel from the Bay area (departure point flexible:
San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland and Sacramento are all ok) to
the Northeast (any of the New York area airports, Philadelphia,
Washington DC or even Boston) in a few weeks.  I've found a 
return flight -- but one-way fares are basically the same as
round-trip, so the return ticket won't do me any good unless
I can find a way to get there!

It would be nice if the ticket were for a female passenger (or
unisex), any airline is ok, any date as long as it can be changed. 


thanks....

Shelly Culbertson
shell@gandalf.berkeley.edu
(707) 443-1172 home
(707) 822-1122 work

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel
From: sfg2483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shachar Frank )
Subject: AMADEUS Computerized Reservation System
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:11:25 GMT
Keywords: CRS, Amadeus

Amadeus is a computerized reservation system (CRS) owned by a few
European airlines, and the most dominant CRS in Europe.
Does any one know the address/telephone/fax for their headquarters?
What airlines own this CRS?
Do they have a representative in the USA?

Thanks!

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Travel thru Sing/Malaysia/Thailand
Reply-To: C.Eagle@massey.ac.nz
Organization: School of Maths & Info. Sci., Massey University, Palmerston North, NZ
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:34:29 GMT

Hi,

My wife and I are travelling through Singapore,  Malaysia and Thailand
for a month  in December, travelling  by bus and  train and staying in
Youth Hostels and the like.

My question is:
How  crowded can we expect  transport/accommodation to be in December?
Should we try to book ahead as much as possible, or will be be able to
find seat/beds relatively easily?

Thanks for any information you can provide.

Colin


-- 
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			    Colin G. Eagle
		    Internet: C.Eagle@massey.ac.nz
	   Voice: +64 6 3569099 x 7523   Fax: +64 6 3505611
 School of Mathematical and Information Sciences, Massey University,
		    Palmerston North, New Zealand.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: todd@hector.uucp (24102-todd)
Subject: Re: United 727 Lands At Meigs
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 12:40:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.204815.27460@news.acns.nwu.edu> staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers) writes:
>sure, you've heard of OHare, and of Midway here in Chicago.  But the closest
>airport to downtown Chicago is Meigs (sp?).  Its right on the lake.  Usually,
>only private planes and jets land, since I think (can someone check) there
>is only 5000 ft of runway (LaGuardia has 8000?).  But the Museum of Science
>here in Chicago managed to get United to donate a 27 year old 727 to the 
>museum.  So to get it close to the museum, they flew it from OHare to
>Meigs (the newspaper said it was a 27 minute flight!).  They called it
>a textbook landing, but the video I saw made it seem a little scary.  
>The pilot basically plopped the thing on the runway (he came down very
>tilted to one side though) and hit the breaks.  He has some space left at the
>end.
>
Sounds no different than landing a 737 in St. Thomas.  First
time we landed there we sat in first class, and watched
the numbers go by until they reached 50 feet.  The next
time we came in on an Airbus 300.  That was really
interesting as well. 
Fortunately, they're extending the runway (they have to
cut a hole in a mountain to do it).  Does anyone know
if it's complete yet?  Carolyn Todd
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: ****** The REC.TRAVELGUIDE ******
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:46:37 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

Sounds a brilliant idea, Paul! But is there any reason to limit it to the
10 best? If someone collects a number of responses and submits the results
to an ftp site somewhere, what's the problem if there are 100 best, as long
as the 10 best are easily accessible too (say, at the top of the list)?


And as for your NY questions:

>Where can I get some
>good views of the skyline? 

Don't go up the Empire State, because you can't see it from the top :-). Go
up the World Trade Centre instead; they let you out on the roof if the
weather is fine.

>How does one go about getting cheap tickets
>at short notice for Broadway plays?

TKTS in Times Square. Don't go after dark: it's not the most salubrious of
areas. And round about the Port Authority Bus Terminal is about the most
God-forsaken place on earth; all porn shops, empty lots, litter and
junkies.

Jeremy

---
Jeremy Gibbons <jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>         tel: +64 9 373 7599
   Department of Computer Science,              fax: +64 9 373 7453
   University of Auckland, Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand.


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: lingy@vccsouth31.its.rpi.edu (Dan)
Subject: Singapore air tix cheap
Summary: Singapore air tickets cheap
Keywords: singapore, air, tickets, travel
Reply-To: lingy@rpi.edu
Organization: Somewhere Special
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:01:50 GMT

Hi there,
	Can anyone recomment me any places where I can get air tickets to
Singapore for less than 800 if possible? Travel time will be in the
2nd week of december, but I will be ordering the tix around now (if i could
find the right price of course 8-) )

Dan
From: ma@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Convertor from 220V/50hz to 110V/60hz?
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:11:57 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Can anyone recommend a place to buy or mail order a Voltage Convertor
which converts Voltage from 220 to 110, frequency from 50 to 60 Hz?
I have bought one years ago in another city. But I looked many stores here
in town. Even Radio Shack doesn't have it.
It is for US-made appliance to be used overseas. The power should be between
500 to 1000 W.
Appreciate for any information.
Ma
From: shecht@lamar.ColoState.EDU (steven heckt)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: us air strike Q
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:08:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


	Ok, now that I followed the wonderful advice of people in this
	group in planning my honeymoon, I am worried about the us air
	strike. We are to leave this SUN. What happens when an airline
	is on strike? Obviously, I cannot in this time get cheap tickets
	on another line- or will my tikets be honored by other companies?
	I remember back in may that some of those other flights were
	getting full!  thanks for help from you more experienced travlers.
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