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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Pigeon in the helmet
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 22:52:13 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Keywords: pigeon;helmut

In article <1992Sep7.015735.5233@panix.com> paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
>
> The only times I ever got stung in my life by serious insects[tm] was
>while riding. Both times on the hand where they decided to rest until I
>decided to scratch my nose and/or shift gears. That seemed to get them
>upset. Both times a cursed, upshifted, picked up the pace a couple of miles
>per hour, and made the ride a lesson in pain.
>
That reminds me. I rode the Hilly 100 in the Valley Spokemen Hekaton
this weekend, and while riding down the backside of Papa Bear at about
45 mph a bee stung me and left his stinger and poison pump behind.

Itmust have sounded pretty comical as I was hollering, "Ouch, ouch,
DAMNIT, ouch!" but I couldn't take my hands off of the bars to
do anything about it until I reached the bottom and slowed down
to a reasonable speed. 
 
For some reason, I was coasting really good this last weekend. But
that bee sting sure slowed me up. :-)


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,ottawa.general
From: pete@aix1.uottawa.ca (Pete Hickey)
Subject: Bicycle lanes!
Originator: pete@aix1.uottawa.ca
Organization: University of Ottawa Computer Centre
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:35:08 GMT

First, note that this is cross-posted. and fix your reply so that
it goes to the appropriate group.


Good news and bad news for cyclists in the city of Hull Quebec..

The city of Hull appears to be setting up bicycle lanes on lots of
the major streets.  For example, on Cite-des-jeunes, they've set
up about two meter wide lanes on each side of the street.  Was that
last sentence ambiguous?  Did I mean that they set up two lanes,
each a meter wide on each side of the street?  Or did they set up a
single lane two meters wide on each side of the street?  Well, I don't
know which one it is.

They've painted messages (`wear your helmet' and `Be visible') on
the lanes which are upside-down on the left side message, which 
indicates that they are bi-directional lanes.  It looks like this:

   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   | Bikes | Bikes |  Cars    ||  Cars    | Bikes | Bikes |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   |   |   |  /|\  |    |     ||   /|\    |   |   |  /|\  |
   |  \|/  |   |   |    |     ||    |     |   |   |   |   |
   |       |   |   |   \|/    ||    |     |  \|/  |   |   |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |

To me this seems weird and unsafe.  I suspect that maybe they
just told some worker to go out and paint the messages without
giving instructions.  Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe this is a safe
way.

Now, on some other streets (Mount Bleu)  They've done something
even more weird.  The cars ride in the street as usual, but the
cyclists ride between the parked cars and the sidewalk.  There is
about a meter-wide strip.  It looks like this:


   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   | Bikes | parked|  Cars    ||  Cars    | parked| Bikes |
   |       | cars  |          ||          | cars  |       |
   |   |   |       |    |     ||   /|\    |       |  /|\  |
   |  \|/  |       |    |     ||    |     |       |   |   |
   |       |       |   \|/    ||    |     |       |   |   |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |

This type of scheme seems like it would cause lots of door
opening injuries since passengers are not used to looking for
cyclists when opening the doors.  Again, I may be wrong.  Is
anybody else familiar with these types of bike lanes?

-Pete

P.S.  The real test of the city's acceptance of cyclists will
come this winter:  Will they plow/maintain these lanes????
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Re: Wheel truing I need advice
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:51:12 GMT

>In article <1992Aug25.200946.15374@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>Richard.Banks@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Richard Banks) writes: 
>>
>>I need both my front and rear wheels trued on my 18-speed 26 in.
>>Mountain Bike.  ...

In article <36929@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
writes: 

>... Anyway, you shouldn't attempt to true yourself unless you know
>how.  You can really screw it up - I know.  

Oh, come, come!!
How does one get to know how if one doesn't dare it!
There are treatises and books and chapters in books and magazine
articles on truing wheels. 
A few directions and a couple of essential tools that *****every******
cyclist should have in his tool bag, and it can be done.

>The pros have a mount they put the wheel in to show where it should
>be trued, i.e. which spokes.  

This magic mount is called a truing stand.  It does no more to show
what spokes to turn than any other method used to determie what spots
on the wheel aren't where they should be.  

>You can use your brake pad to do this, but it isn't as accurate.  

A truing stand is a lot like some of the other tools that mechanics
use--cost effective and efficient when you do a lot of the same kind
of work for which the tool is useful.  Substitute tools are equally
useful, if less efficient, when the user is not doing a lot of the
same kind of work. For periodic wheel truing, there are adequate
substitutes.  This is but one.

>If you can, find a place with nice folks - even better, a one or two
>person shop ... and you can learn a LOT from them.  ...

That is one way.
Then, there are those who just take it apart and try it or those that
read directions and try it.

If the wheel-truer goes to wheel building, a truing stand and dish
tool are probably a good idea.  But they can be home-made.  There is
nothing  mysterious about any of this stuff.  The bicycle is simple
elegance.  Enjoy every aspect of it.  As much as you want to.  No
matter what anyone tells you.  There are a few jobs that require
special tools, but that is usually related to welding, brazing, and
machining.  There is a heck of a lot to do on a bike before you
encounter that stuff.



-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: zefal mini hp
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:09:45 GMT

In article <lau.715635079@femto> lau@femto.cs.umn.edu (Patrick Lau) writes:
>I just got a mt. zefal mini double shot hp pump, and I could hardly get
>it to pump up to 70 psi.(And it claims to pump up to 100 psi in 7 strokes.
>Is this true?) Did I do something wrong, or does anyone else have the
>same problem with this pump? Thanks for any help.
>
>Patrick

I can't get my Silca track pump past 150lbs.  It starts leaking out the pump
stem.  How do you guys running hi-pressure sew-ups get to 170lb ?????


-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: "Ben Wildasin" <bwildasi@whale.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: zefal mini hp
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:21:37 -0500

In article <1992Sep7.063831.21584@chiton.ucsd.edu> zeke@chiton.ucsd.edu (Rob Scott) writes:
>The 24 inch modem pumps up to any pressure I desire on the MTB tires, and it
>doesn't take all that long, either.

Putting that old telecom. hardware to use...
-- 
"It is computed, that eleven thousand persons have, | Ben Wildasin
 at several times, suffered death, rather than      |
 submit to break their eggs at the smaller end."    | bwildasi@indiana.edu
                                 -- Jonathan Swift  | bwildasi@iubacs.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: rpetty@mu.enet.dec.com (Rich Petty)
Subject: Re: zefal mini hp
Reply-To: rpetty@mu.enet.dec.com (Rich Petty)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:24:39 GMT

In article <lau.715635079@femto>, lau@femto.cs.umn.edu (Patrick Lau)
writes:
|>I just got a mt. zefal mini double shot hp pump, and I could hardly
|>get
|>it to pump up to 70 psi.(And it claims to pump up to 100 psi in 7
|>strokes.
|>Is this true?) Did I do something wrong, or does anyone else have the
|>same problem with this pump? Thanks for any help.
|>
|>Patrick
|>
	They forgot to mention that the claim of 100 psi in 7 strokes only
works
if you plug the business end of the pump with a rubber stopper. I took
two of these
back to where I bought them and finaly exchanged it for a full size
pump. Since
then, I have heard that it is very important how you put them on the
valve stem.
(must seat completly)

		Good luck----------------Rich
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne)
Subject: Re: switching from side-by-side to single file
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:03:47 GMT

In article <lbcqagINN8hb@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>Usually I prefer to stay double file and wave the motorists
>around both of us.   Eventually the drivers get the 
>message and pull over the center-line and around us....

It is much safer for you to go into single file, and it really isn't that
hard.  Also, it is more considerate to the car drivers.  I know the Potomac
Peddlars Touring Club (Washington, D.C.) have earned the enmity of most of
the town of Barnesville, Md. for large groups of cyclists riding double and
making it harder for cars to pass.

Plus, you may be legally obligated to go single file when being passed.
Most locations say you must move as far to the right as safe, and the
cyclist on the road side can move farther right.

>
>-- 
>Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH)
Subject: Bat in the Brakes WAS: Re: Pigeon in the helmet
Keywords: pigeon;helmut
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:15:44 GMT

In article <32pnd=+.mbothe@netcom.com> mbothe@netcom.com (Michael Bothe) writes:
>paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
>
>
>
>> He was riding in a pace line, at the front, when a nyc pigeon hit him
>>in the head and got its beak stuck in the air intake of his giro helmet.
>
>
>> I once had a squirrel stuck in the spokes of my front wheel. I doubt
>>anyone in the history of cycling, anywhere in the world (universe), ever
>>had a squirril stuck in the front wheel (doing laps of a sort), while
>>simultaneously having a bird (doesn't have to be a pigeon), stuck in his
>>or her helmet.
>

	Last month, upon arriving at my favorite MTB destination, I 
	was suprised to find a dead bat, spread eagle, suspended between
	my front brake pads (front tire was removed).  The bat was facing
	forward, each wing streched over a brake pads.  I wonder what the
	odds are on that happening again. 


			John  Mastrangelo
			ice@massive.its.bldrdoc.gov


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: zeke@chiton.ucsd.edu (Rob Scott)
Subject: Re: zefal mini hp
Organization: MPL of SIO at UCSD
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:30:27 GMT

Regarding the discussion of trouble with Mt. Zefal mini-pumps:

I have both a Blackburn mini-pump (configured for the presta valves on
my commuter/cross bike with 700C wheels) and a 24 inch Blackburn for my
MTB with schraders.  I find that I have little trouble getting the 700x35 
tires up to 75psi (reasonable riding pressure for my tires) with the mini-pump.
The 24 inch modem pumps up to any pressure I desire on the MTB tires, and it 
doesn't take all that long, either.

Both pumps are quite a bit more sturdily constructed than the similar Zefal
models, IMO, yet weigh in similarly.  I've heard of others being very 
dissatisfied with both the pumping capacity and the construction of the
current model Zefals.  I still have an old 24 inch aluminum barrel Zefal-HP
that functions at least as well as anything out today, but the new ones
left me unimpressed.


Just my 2 cents.
Rob
                    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Rob Scott, System Administrator for the Marine Physical Laboratory
            Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego
    Internet: zeke@mpl.ucsd.edu  Cserve: 76176,637  Voice: (619)534-5503
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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: switching from side-by-side to single file
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:53:04 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

Usually I prefer to stay double file and wave the motorists
around both of us.   Eventually the drivers get the 
message and pull over the center-line and around us....

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
From: windy@pencom.com (Windflower Gilbert)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Numb thumbs
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:21:11 GMT
Reply-To: windy@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

> 
> I'd like to know too, both my hands go numb as well. However my gloves
> aren't exactly cheap. Maybe it has something to do with handle bar
> position?
> 
> Mike

--
I used to have the same problem on a road bike. You might want to try  
gloves with gel padding. I find the padding lasts longer than the  
conventional kind. The other likely cause is that the relative height of  
you seat and your handlebars is wrong, and causes you to put to much  
weight on you handlebars.

Definitely change your hand position frequently!

Windflower Gilbert

Pencom Software
Suite 300
9050 Capital of Texas Hwy. N.
Austin, Texas 78759

:: Purely my own opinion. My employer has expressed none on this issue. ::
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Numb thumbs
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 06:59:28 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep07.044609.7420@CS.ORST.EDU> reidyj@CS.ORST.EDU (Jay Reidy) writes:
>In article <LOTTO.92Sep6185200@math.math.berkeley.edu> lotto@math.berkeley.edu (Ben Lotto) writes:
>>I just started doing longer rides, and my thumbs start going numb
>>after just a short while.  I have a pair of cheap gloves.
>>Recommendations?
>>
>  Sounds like cyclers' palsy to me.  It's caused by resting your weight on
>  your palms when they're pressed against the handlebars of your bike.
>
Another possibility is gloves that are too tight.


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From: oivindt@fagmed.uit.no (Oivind Toien)
Subject: Re: Definition of a "hybrid" bike ???
Organization: University of Tromso, Norway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:37:06 GMT

Excuse if I have missed something, but after a lot of postings on this
subject I am still a bit confused.  Are the bikes that some years ago
were called 'touring bikes' or 'grand tour bikes' also hybrids?

I own both a Cannondale mountain bike and a Miyata one-thousand touring
bike. One thing that may not have been mentioned is the touring bikes
(or hybrids?) higher shock absorbing ability. 

When it gets real bumpy, hovewer, the softer frame tend to twist more,
so control is not so good. Try to guess which bike I use in the winter
here in Tromso, Norway, about 500 miles north of the arctic circle?
(Snow can get real bumpy when grooved by chain links.)
--
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Dept. of Arctic Biology, Institute of Medical Biology, University of Tromso
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From: news@svin09.info.win.tue.nl (Usenet account)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: What is your opinion on amino-preparati?
                             (what's correct English?!)
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:42:08 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

Reply-To: pwk@win.tue.nl
From: pwk@wsinfo01.win.tue.nl (Pieter Kuppens)
I'm referring to Power Play(tm), from the same company as
Isostar. (They have a third 'similar' product I think).
Within two weeks, I'll go for a holiday in the French Alpes.
I want some advice on how these can (or can't) help 
training here and cycling there.

  I'm curious about what you think about these products.
1) Do they help in whatever they are ment for?
2) Have you used them?
3) Why (not)?
4) Do you recomment them?
5) Do you have better alternatives?
6) ... (whatever you may want to share with me)

If I have sufficient data, to make a statistical correct article, I'll
post your responses/opinions.

Pieter Kuppens     (pwk@win.tue.nl)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
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Subject: recumbent bike info #2
Reply-To: "gary walsh" <gary.walsh@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Mountain Bike Magazines
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:13:57 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

In article <102420003@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes:
>In rec.bicycles.misc, aviator@athena.mit.edu (Joakim Karlsson) writes:
>
>> Mountain Biking [?]: Geared towards competition, didn't inspire
>> me, but I've only paged through it.
>> ...
>> Mountain and City Biking [?]: Know nothing about it, I can't find it at
>> any news stands or bike stores around here.
>
>That's because it is merely the old name for "Mountain Biking" (it changed a
>few months ago).
>
>If you are a recreational rider looking for information of use to you (riding
>tips, reviews of affordable bikes & componenty, etc), then this and "Bicycle
>Guide" are probably your best bets.  "Mountain Biking" has a lot of competition
>stuff that you will probably want to ignore, but there is still some "useful"
>information left - more so than MBA, I find.  I think it has an undeserved
>reputation as a fluff rag (although this reputation may have been more
>appropriate a couple of years ago).  "Bicycle Guide" will have a lot of road

_Mountain Biking_ may get to re-earn that repuration as they've lost
John Olsen.  Olsen will be one of the editors of _The Bike_, a new
magazine started by former _Bicycle Guide_ editor Doug Roosa.

And speaking of _Bicycle Guide_, they've lost Keith Mills, John Derven,
and some others (Koch?).  Without these folks, you can probably expect
the magazine to go downhill pretty quickly (IMO).

>related articles that may or may not interest you, but probably has more
>recreational MTB info than the otherwise comparable (more or less) "Bicycling",
>although I've never seen the "Mountain Bike" supplement.

_Bicycling_ is realizing that they're losing a big section of the marketplace
to MBA and the other dirt-oriented mags.  They've been advertising for a
senior mountain editor for about a month.  Perhaps when they find this
individual, the magazine will devote more coverage to the mountain bike
scene (or even spin-off a whole new mag).

>--------------
>Marc Sabatella
>marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com


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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: les@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Les Earnest)
Subject: Re: What is your opinion on amino-preparati?
                             (what's correct English?!)
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Reply-To: les@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:05:30 GMT

This product inquiry belongs in rec.bicycles.marketplace.  Please
followup there.

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From: ampe@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.e.ampe)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Leg shaves
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:04:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep14.161505.21678@news.unomaha.edu> kkrueger@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kurt Krueger) writes:
>It looks neat and clean plus it shows off
>the muscles.  It's the same reason why bodybuilders shave.

Sorry.  For body builders, it's a required part of the sport
(as are fasting and diuretics).  For cyclists, it's pure vanity.

John_Ampe@att.com
From: ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Riding a MTB in sand
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:22:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <20129@drutx.ATT.COM> r.g.olsen@att.com writes:
>> How does one ride a MTB through sand? I have a Schwinn High Plains with 2.0"
>> tires and I lowered the pressure to about 25#s. I can get the front tire to
>> go exactly where I want, but the rear tire squiggles. If I back off the
>> power I stall, if I add more power I spin and sqiggle. I could walk, but that
>> defeats the purpose of cycling ;-}.
>
>When the rear tire squirms sideways,
>turn the handlebars to try to straighten out
>the bike and keep pedaling.  Sometimes actively sawing the handlebars
>back and forth while pedaling continuously in a low gear will let you
>crab and squirm diagonally through a sand pit.
>Keep your speed up when entering the sand and your weight slightly back.
>Keep your tire pressure low, and use the fattest tires you can get.
>
>	Ron Olsen
>	Boulder, Colorado
>	r.g.olsen@att.com

I've also tried this indirectly. Actually the sand causes this to happen.
Basically I can keep going until the rear tire gets buried under about an inch
of sand. Then I come to a dead stop and I can get started again.

NJC