From: clark@daffy.tmc.edu (Matthew Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:47:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ariel.1992Oct12.154724.29322
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

In article <BvpBv4.7MI@ecf.toronto.edu> linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL) writes:
>>You APROUVE of genocide???  Sounds like youd make a good Nazi.
>
>Finally looks like I've got somebody's attention. But I think I've talked to
>you before. If so then you already know that I'm a Jion supporter. Char was
>justified in his attack on the Earth. I do not think that his primary motive
>is to kill everyone on Earth (and it would not have. It'll take far more than
>a chunk of rock less than a fraction of Earth's mass to blow away the Earth).
>As you've read in Animag (or should have read) he just wanted the Feddies to
>chill out (literally) for a while. hehehe. Remember what Camille said? To
>save the human race, a few sacrifices must be made. Char honestly believed that
>Earth was impeding the progress of mankind and de-evolving it out of existance.
>and he sees his actions as the only way of allowing the humans to continue to
>evolve, into what his father hoped a new race comprised completely of Newtypes.
>He truly belive that his actions are for the good of the entire human race in
>the long run and he is NOT completely unjustified in his belief. 

	I'm getting confused here.  None of this is making a lot of sense
	given what we know from the CCA script.  While Char certainly had
	his motivations (the Feddies screwing the colonies repeatedly), I 
	cannot believe that anyone has the right to commit global mass murder.
	(which is entirely Amuro's point, who is Char to pass judgement on 
	mankind?)

>Perhaps the main reason why I find Amuro disgusting is his childish attitude
>towards war. All-American goodie-twoshoes boyscouts really turn me off. He let

	Boyscouts aren'y introverted.  Bouyscouts don't have severe moments
	of panic and depression.  Boyscouts don't get repeatedly rejected
	by others.  Boyscouts don't get pumped up full of drugs because
	they are seen as a threat to the natural order of things.

>his hatred of Char cloud his judgement over the greater good of the Earth.
>Despite what he says I think he sympathizes with Char's belief and he also 
>share Char's disgust for the constant bureacracy of the Federal Force. But he
>can not allow himself to admit this simply because his childish mind would 
>take that as a form of defeat.

	The CCA script sorta makes the whole thing clear.  While Amuro
	sympathizes with the Spacenoids desire to be free, killing 
	everyone on Earth was not an option for Amuro.  (I didn't realize
	that opposing the near genocide of a population is childish.)

>This sudden hatred was rather irrational
>considering back in the A.E.U.G the two were good friends and Amuro once
>complimented Char on his beliefs so where all this friction came from was
>difficult to understand.

	Well...that's your first mistake.  Char and Amuro were NOT good
	friends.  Associates fighting a common enemy is more like it.
	Good friends don't say "You won't go into space because you're
	afraid you'll meet Lalah."  Char never forgave Amuro about Lalah's
	death and it came to a head in CCA.

	IMHO, Jion was/is a noble cause gone totally sour.  The Zabi's
	took what was a major (and to that point peaceful) movement and
	completely twisted it to serve their own needs.  While I agree
	with the ideals of Jion Daikun, I cannot accept the annihilation
	of billions of people that the Zabis so proudly sought.

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