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From: eda171s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (D.M. Bateson)
Subject: Re: Trouble finding this movie ____?????
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:38:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.023011.4010@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>
>Okay, about a year ago, I was at a club and they were playing some anime on
>the television sets all over... It was the neatest thing I have seen since
>Akira.  I have never been able to find it, or any hints of it anywhere.
>Hopefully, somebody out there can help.
>
>Here's what I can remember:
>
>There is a motorcycle gang... but not really futuristic like in Akira.
>Their city is attacked by tanks and planes and all kinds of goodies.
>The gang starts fighting the tanks, and at one point a member gets into
>a large crane-type object and starts smashing the tanks, but a tank gets
>in a shot, and the huge crane object falls down into a pit.
>There are lots of scenes where tanks are going through the city blasting
>away, while civilians are runing around screaming while the shells go right
>over their heads.
>
>Well, that's kind of vague, but I hope somebody can help.
>A friend there told me he thought it was a Battletech, but there were
>no mechanoid units or anything of that sort.. just bikes, planes, tanks...
>
Sounds like Venus Wars to me.  


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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Bashing Macek.
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:57:05 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

In article <92204.113754U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Come to think of it,how did he get it? Wouldn't Harmony Gold attempt to
>retain the rights to distribute their own productions? Does Carl have the
>rights to WINDARIA,or did he buy them from HG?

OK, if I remember properly (i.e. don't take my word for it), Harmony Gold
went under and Carl bought the rights to a lot of their stuff (Windaria,
Birth, Robotech, etc.).  I'm not sure what happened to HG's other properties
(I think they had Aura Battler Dunbine, Megazone 23 Pt. II, and Robotech
the Movie, which even Carl doesn't want).
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
From: gpinzone@TASHA.POLY.EDU (Gerard Pinzone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ATTENTION: PETER WONG!!!!
Summary: Something about ATTENTION: PETER WONG!!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:25:38 GMT
Reply-To: gpinzone@tasha.poly.edu
Organization: Polytechnic Univ., Farmingdale NY and East Coast Anime

If Peter Wong can read this, please reply to me.  Mike C. Ling needs to
get into contact with you.

Yours truly,
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  /   ___/\//  /____ \//  __   / /   Where darkness and light are one
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 \______\/ \_______\/ \__\/\__\/     You feel so glad to be unable to go beyond
   (everything 'cept anchovies!)     I have a message from another time...
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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Re: Assemble Insert
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 04:05:40 GMT

In article <Bs0s61.GFt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jly33321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John L.Yoon ) writes:
>a while back, I vaguely remember someone mentioning on RAA that a new
>Assemble Insert was going released.  Is this just a hallcination,  
>or will there really be another one?  Since I haven't heard anything
>about it since, I'm inclined to believe that it was just a rumor...
>-- 
I think the mistake came from an ad in Anime V a few months back, it gave
the impression of a new release if you passed over it quickly, but it is 
actually a re-release of the original A.I.

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu

>John Yoon                     | University of Illinois CU (MatSci) std.disclaim
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From: bbs.ryu23@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Chieh Chou)
Subject: Silent Mobius help.
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:54:18 GMT


       Well, finally got my late grubby hands on Silent
       Mobius (the motion picture, #1) and watched it, and
       well, the selfish realization sank in about a quarter
       of the way through and I was wondering if there were any
       synopsis or scripts of this movie going around on the net?

       Hey, synopsis (mostly) have saved my life a few times, I remember
       the first time (awhile back) I watched kiki's was with a synopsis
       and it worked pretty well. :)  

       Thanks for any replies.


--
Chieh Chou (bbs.ryu23@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Carl's theatrical "subtitling"
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 09:38:54 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Jul18.020147.5159@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
 > 
 > When will people get this right, Tokuma gave them 2 years with Laputa,
 > period.

I KNOW that. But he never made a good attempt at getting it shown.

 > They were never offered Totoro & Kiki, they were mercenary dubbers, so to
 >  speak.

I know. Which is why he should never have accepted it. Now they have
these wonderful titles gathering dust, in a distributable form but
no-one with the money to do so. (If they were still undubbed, they
might be available cheaper.)

Sorry, I ain't about to give Carl an inch, not ever (not after the way
I was treated over the phone by him once).

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From: dscott@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Danielle M. Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Macross 2: Does it really SUCK!!
Keywords: OH NO!
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:41:55 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

--
 
I notice more and more that a lot of people really, really, really,
really, think Macross 2 (Dubbed version) SUCKS! 
Now, being one of the privilage to see it at Anime Expo, I thought the 
dubbing was O.K., the only voices I could stand was Nabiki and that one 
pilot, uh, Silvie. 
Now the other voices that I thought was pretty funny to listen to was
mostly that homosexual guy who looks like Gulie or Smithy and his 
bartender (who when listening to it I thought I was listening to 
Hans and Frans from SNL) and that is not all! NAMES, NAMES, that one 
stupid idiot who allways said BULLSHIT and dies when finding Ishtar.
Ishtars voice was pretty fake too, she sounded like she should be in Peter
Pan or something, he voice did not agree with me (Is there a reason why
Mikimoto did her a Kinoko (from Marionette Genereation) hairstyle when
she gets in to Earth's culture?).
Also what tops it is the voices for the generals, GOOD LORD! Enuff said.
I also thought it was funny (and seeing other people expressions from
this) is when Nabiki and Ishtar is checking out that face statue thing
and Nabiki sticks his hand in the mouth and it got stuck and him and
Ishtar were trying to pull it out, for a minute there I thought I was 
listening to a porno movie, is it just me or.......
Well a lot of people must have felt the same way cause they were 
laughing.
WOW! another moment as a anime fan/manga artist.
SIGH!
I say that too much!
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: AnimeWhateverCon '93
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:47:15 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Jul26.093745.29671@csus.edu> kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu writes:
 > 
 > Yeah, it's extreme.  For example, it wasn't really obvious to me that
 > AnimeCon '91 was for profit.

Exactly. The fliers said that the con was "sponsored" by Gainax and a
couple of other companies, but I never was aware of the for-profit
status until early this year. Call it personal bias, but I just have a
very strong disapproval of for-profit cons. SF/Trek/anime cons just
should NOT be run for profit, because it is not best for the fans.

I'd rather pay a bit more for a con if I know that any left-overs go to
a charity rather than to someone's pockets.

 > You obviously didn't go to the @! party!  *super funny grin :-)*
 >  [Wait...you want us to sing The Winner (Gundam 0083 op) nd we can't
 >   look at the lyrics?  You're crazy, Jeff...hey that pink stuff
 >   looks good...what is it?]

That's something nobody's made a report about. How about someone
reporting on the @ party?? I was there last year, but of course missed
it this year.

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From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: 3x3 eyes afterthought
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:42:26 GMT

Oh yes, one more quesion. I noticed in the Nikaku catalog that the "3x3 
Eyes CD" is $29.95, and the OTHER 3x3 Eyes CD ("Music + Drama") is only 
$3 more, at $32.95.  Can anyone tell me, in this double CD set - it says 
it's a 2-CD set -- is the "music" 1/2 the same as the single CD?  I mean, 
for only $3 more why not get the drama as well, right?  Or are they 
different?
:::::Larry:::::

--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: noelg@pnet01.cts.com (Noel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR Questions.
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:16:03 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hiroshi Haga) writes:

>Otaku and avid fans are different if you haven't figured it out 
>now.  But then I don't blame you guys for not knowing, however '
>is an insulting word nowaday.  Of course, some people are proud 
>called Otaku and that's their choice.

Well, people like the Gainax staff have embraced the term and parodied
themselves in OnV.  I think it shows that they have a sense of humor
and that they genuinely enjoy their hobby of choice.  In that sense,
I'd gladly call myself otaku.  


Noel Gamboa, Operation X (noelg@pnet01.cts.com)
Yoshiyuki Tomino: "Who's Charles Aznavour?"
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From: saint@lina.dei.unipd.it (Gian_Uberto Lauri 228495)
Subject: Re: RUMOR:  BATTLETECH anime!! (KENICHI SONODA CHARACTER DESIGNS)
Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:12:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.071614.2843@crash.cts.com> noelg@pnet01.cts.com (Noel Gamboa) writes:

>Incidentally, I was looking through the Japanese magazine called Login
>today and noticed that there's a new BattleTech RPG/sim game out for
>the Japanese MS-DOS machines, called "BattleTech: The Stolen Holy Grail."
>Game play appears to be very similar to Mechwarrior, where the pilot
>travels across the planets run by the Five Houses, doing merc missions
>and building a lance while recruiting and training pilots.  The combat
>is also rendered in 3-d filled polygon style with first person perspective.
>I wonder if this'll ever be translated for the local machines.  Looks
>pretty good, much better than MechWarrior in terms of graphics.

I bet the story is about a guy called Gideon Braver (Vandemberg :) )
and a chalice he has to retrive to evidence his innocence (it's as
usual a dirty Kuritist trick)

o   oooooo	Gian Uberto Lauri	
      o    o	saint@alessia.dei.unipd.it
     o o
From: dscott@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Danielle M. Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: IS US Renditions really dubbing Gunbuster?
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:01:13 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

--
 
Is this true or a bad joke? I can just imagine what would happen if 
they did, but can anybody confirm this or am I really this bored in
posting such a silly question.
BORED, BORED, BORED!
-- 
      *   Danielle Scott *(Dani-chan)* dscott@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US    *
      *I'M A ARTIST, PAINTING BILBOARDS, IN LARGE, CAPITAL LETTERS,*
      *     AND TELLING JOKES, NOBODY ELSE WOULD LISTEN TO.        *
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From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:02:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <5115@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> 7100P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Jeff Siegel) writes:
>My .02 (adjusted for inflation):  Otaku is a Japanese word with a negative
>connotation, and I think that it is a big mistake for the word to be
>used in a 'positive' (or at least non-negative) sense.  It could
>possibly hurt efforts to spread Japanese animation throughout the States
>since Japanese will equate 'otaku' to their definition, not the much more
>sedate 'American' definition.  I'm an anime fan, but I don't want to have
>the 'otaku' label applied to me because except in parts of American
>anime fandom, the label is derogatory and in my case, totally inaccurate -
>I enjoy anime, but it's not my life.  I suggest American anime fandom
>break itself of a bad habit and stop using 'otaku' in a positive or non-
>negative sense.  Most anime fans cringe when someone doesn't translate
>the dialog in subbed or dubbed anime correctly, so why should 'otaku'
>be an exception?

As I mentioned in my previous message, it doesn't matter whether you
want to be called "otaku" or NOt, nor does it matter whether you
have a life or not. Japanese will equally label pychopaths like
Miyazaki and fans like you with a single word "otaku", although they
would hesitate to say that directly. When they see a person carrying
anime goods (worse if he's dressed up in anime clothings) they'll
whisper in his back "otaku", without exception. :-)

Unless Japanese themselves limit the usage of "otaku" to REAL "losers"
and "psychopths", I don't think the word "otaku" will easily die out
among American fans.


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From: kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu ()
Subject: Gundam F91
Originator: kilpatri@nextnet
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:17:30 GMT

I finally saw Gundam F91 (not like I liked it but the next day I bought the
Gundam F91 Entertainment Bible and a poster...) and I was wondering something.
Is there going to be a sequel to it?  It says at the end that "this is only the
beginning" or something like that.  If anyone knows anything, could you
e-mail to me?  Thanks.


-- 
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"I gotta fly like a duck
 I gotta run like a wounded badger..
 I gotta cry like a chiuaua.."
From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:42:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: remus.Jul.27.17.42.32.1992.12155
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <712091718snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:

 >   > I set followups to rec.arts.anime, a newsgroup devoted to Japanese
 >   > animation like Robotech.  
 > 
 > Almighty keeper of the FAQL and he gets it wrong. It should of course
 > be "a newsgroup devoted to Japanese animation UNlike Robotech." :)
 > 
 > Macross/SC/Mospeada is japanese animation, Robotech is not. (Let's
 > start THAT argument again. :)


The storyline may have been heavily Macekered (I love that phrase),
but if it isn't Japanese Animation, what is it?

100% animated in Japan for Japanese audiences.

Steve
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From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam F91
Date: 26 Jul 1992 05:12:45 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Gundam, F91
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <36135@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:

>I guess you're talking about Silhouette Formular 0123. It's another
>abomination from Bandai to sell more models and toys.

A little hard to hide that fact when ALL of the mechs are in bright colors and
look like toys; zero logic in design and appeals to sensual pleasure.

>It's a complete rip-off of 0083, F-91 & other Gundam series with everything
>but kitchen sink (Neo-Jion, Anaheim, Corossbone Vanguard, Feddies).
>Like F-90, there is no plan for animating this silly thing.   

Talk about stretching creative limits. 

>BTW, models from this series look VERY UGLY.

It look like a plastic toy, and it is. (At least  in earlier series they've
tried to incorporate some logic into designs)

>*                      Tonghyun "Vajra" Kim                     *

-Dave C.
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Macross II impressions
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 17:28:33 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Jul17.072748.10195@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
 > Spoilers ho!
 > 
 > 
 > >- Story. My my my... Gigantic space-sized holographic projection
 > >systems to "bombard" the aliens with images of Minmei? (enough to make
 > >me run away :) At least the aliens told the humans what to do with that
 > >"weapon"... Still, a VERY stupid idea.
 > 
 > Odd that everyone seems to think it was stupid when it worked so well
 > in MACROSS.

But regurgitate the same old story???? Sheesh, these people are about
as thick-headed as the Feds in 0083. :) It was still very stupid to
have huge holographic projection systems used (instead of the "radio
broadcast" in the original)... Liked the way the pilots could fly under
and through Minmei's legs. ("Hey Chuck, have a look up!" "Well, I never
would have believed it.")

As for the Valkyrie, etc. I still don't agree either. After all, the
millitary appears so secretive at all stages, I'm surprised they'd let
a prize like that go "public".

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From: kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu ()
Subject: Gall Force New Century Chapter
Originator: kilpatri@nextnet
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:47:14 GMT

I recently saw a message on Fidonet that mentioned Gall Force New Century
Chapter. I hadn't heard about anything beyond Earth Chapter three.  If
If anyone knows anything about tis, could you E-mail me.  Like if you can give  me some background on it or tell me where I can find scripts or synopsies.   
Thanks.
 
-- 
---------------------
"I gotta fly like a duck...I gotta run like a wounded badger"
Alternate lyrics for "Back to Paradise" from Gundam 0083
kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu
From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Trouble finding this movie ____?????
Date: 26 Jul 92 05:21:32 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <1992Jul26.023011.4010@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:

>Okay, about a year ago, I was at a club and they were playing some anime on
>the television sets all over... It was the neatest thing I have seen since
>Akira.  I have never been able to find it, or any hints of it anywhere.
>Hopefully, somebody out there can help.

>Here's what I can remember:
[description deleted]

Join the club.  Based on your description and my four or five synops,
that sounds like the Venus Wars movie.  At least you've seen it.  I'm
still trying to see it for the first time.

Agitator
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