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From: ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Inclusions
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:47:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

> KM> I am interested in hearing what people have included in dreams.  I
> KM> imagine
> KM> that these would all have to be audio, or perhaps olfactory.

One time I was dreaming in the morning when someone came and rang
the doorbell to my house in real life. I heard this but I
interpreted it as some guy was standing in my room ringing a bell. I
suppose I was actually half awake, because I then heard my mother
say 'oh, someone is at the door' and I woke up and yelled "No, it's
just this guy in my room ringing a bell!". Needless to say, she
thought I was insane. ^_^

On a (perhaps) related subject: What happens when you have to use
the bathroom in the middle of the night? I find that I will
incorporate this need into the dream. So, I get all sorts of dreams
about needing to use the bathroom badly, and either (a) there are no
bathrooms to be found for miles around, (b) there are some but they
cannot be used for some reason (dirty, or broken, whatever), or (c)
I do use the bathroom in my dream, but because I don't in RL, it
still feels that I have to use the bathroom so I will tend to wake
up. Maybe this is incorporating physical things.
	Also, sometimes I have dreams where in the dream I can't
open my eyes. I think this is maybe me noticing that my eyes are
closed in real life?
	Finally, every so often I will have a dream where I notice
that I am paralyzed, I think this is me noticing that I am paralyzed
in real life (during a dream, apparently the brain doesn't send the
right signals to the muscles so that we don't REALLY go jump out the
window etc. ^_^).

	Maiko Covington
From: Phillip_Eastham@kumear.apana.org.au (Phillip Eastham)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: What can't you dream about?
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:55:30 EST
Organization: The DUNGEON BBS

On the local radio station they have this thing where people call in and
have to answer 5 questions wrongly.

The DJ's have this one question they use to get rid of smart-arses.

"Name something you can't dream about?"

So far no-one has come up with an answer.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

This message proudly bought to you by:

                               phillip_eastham@kumear.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: brownt@seq.uncwil.edu (brown todd francis)
Subject: Re: TetrisDreams/Lucidity Institute
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:37:40 GMT

pelletier@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:


>     Also, could someone tell me about the Lucidity Institute?  What is it 
>all about and what does becoming a "member" entail?

>		Pleasant dreams, Happy Holidays and Happy New Year!!  SANDRA


Hello Sandra,

This may help you.  Here is an excerpt from "NightLight," a quarterly
newsletter put out by the Lucidity Institute.

About the Lucidity Institute.  The purpose of the Lucidity Institute
is to advance research on the nature and potentials of consciousness
and to apply the results of this research to the enhancement of human
health and well-being.  The Institute's current focus is on "lucid"
dreaming (dreaming while knowing that one is dreaming).  Lucid
dreaming has considerable potential for a variety of applications
including promoting personal growth and self-development, improving
mental (and perhaps physical) health, and aiding creative problem
solving.  The Lucidity Institute, which was founded by Stephen 
LaBerge, Ph.D., conducts training programs and publishes a newsletter
allowing members to learn about, and participate in, and support
research on consciousness during sleep.

Student memberships are $25 annually.

Write for more information:

LUCIDITY INSTITUTE
PO BOX 2364
STANFORD CA 94309

(414)851-0252



Happy dream travels!

Michael Shea (brownt@seq.uncwil.edu)

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879)
Subject: Re: Don't interrupt me you dream character!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:17:09 GMT

Michael,

Neat idea.  (Bilingual people using weaker language...)  I'm set to
give it a shot, though my french sucks big time.
 
I'll tell ya if anything happens.
 
          Nik

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: How do you tell the difference between ....
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:24:11 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau31.ira.uka.de

In article <1992Dec23.173803@cs.bham.ac.uk> pxf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Pranath Fernando) writes:
>
>Similarly, how do you tell the difference between a place you have created,
>or a place that exists independantly, which you are visiting ?

This is related to a halfway level of control (cf. following posting
about logs.) I recently have tried to get out of one place (which was
there) into another (which I created) by slowly transforming (actually
one specific building into another). The second one had a certain
level of uncertainty in it, it seemed to "want" to remain the old one.

For your question: I mostly can tell the difference, but to describe
how is somewhat difficult. Something like "how to reach lucid state
without any explicit means such as reality checks".

Sometimes I'll write more on this subject.

Happy New Year,
Olaf
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| univ. of karlsruhe - germany |  _>\ _  | s_titz@ira.uka.de   | is still    |
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  "My heart is human - my blood is boiling - my brain IBM" - Mr. Roboto
From: cthomas@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Convincing characters you're dreaming.
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:11:28 EDT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana

In article <gj156879.724633034@cunews>, gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:
> Recently while lucid, a friend of mine in the dream said "This isn't a
> dream!"  I was annoyed.  It was too a dream.  I grabbed the end of his
> nose and stretched it out about a foot, as if it were rubber, and then
> it snapped back into place.
>  
> "Ok, it's a dream," my friend admits.
>  
>           Guess I told him.
>  
>                               Nik

I to had a dream that was similar to this.  I was talking to a girl and
trying to convince her that this was a dream.  To prove my point I put my
hand through a wall.  She tried it but it was solid for her.  I told
her that this was because she was a dream character.  Since she was
part of the dream then everything in it was as real to her as my 'real'
world is for me.  
	The interesting thing though is that I tried to further prove my
point by putting my hand through her, however she was perfectly solid to me
and even though I was lucid dreaming I could not will her to not be solid.

					CHUCKBILL


Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: More subtle reality checking...
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:56:24 GMT

In article <1hsgi0INNbn0@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
>Recently I've come across the experience that a more subtle way of
>reality checking could perhaps achieve more. If you follow the
>instruction, "just ask yourself, am I dreaming, the whole day long",
>this sounds so silly, it'll be hard to remember continuously.
>
>But I've reached lucidity recently by recognizing certain
>inconsistencies in the environment that caught my attention "by
>themselves". E.g. I went to the football arena and after the match had
>begun, I suddenly was inside of a big hall - they had relocated the
>match to indoors :-) This was weird enough to get me aware of the fact
>I was dreaming. Now the important thing is that I was not actively
>checking for such things, but rather have sharpened my attention to
>such weirdnesses so that I can recognize them even while dreaming.
>Maybe this is easier to learn, but I'm not sure.

I think this is part of why meditation helps with lucid dreaming.
With most meditation techniques, one thing they start you out with
is paying attention to whether you're paying attention.

Another technique suggests itself from the discussion of dream characters:
people feel that they often communicate telepathically with people in
their dreams.  Maybe one helpful thing might be to try to do this in waking
life -- or at least notice that you aren't sucessful.

I've had at least one lucid dream in which the cue was getting a whole
lot more meaning out of a strangers's mere glance than I ever get in
waking life (usually, anyway).

--------

On a tangent, here: I'm reading a collection of biographical essays about
the poet Gary Snyder.  It has some accounts of his time in Japan, with
his Japanese counterpart, Nanao Sasaki.  While the Beat/Hippie scene was
coalescing over here, there was another, smaller formation going on in
Tokyo.  These people adopted a collective slogan: "There is a dream
dreaming us."

In this book, there is a quote from a letter from Snyder when he
was studying Zen, commenting on the low regard for Zen in Japan among
the intelligentsia of the time (50's and early 60's).  In this letter
he predicts (tongue partly in cheek, I'm sure) that the Japanese won't
start getting interested in their own spiritual traditions again until
they've become fully Westernized.

Then a few weeks ago, I read a column in the Wall Street Journal talking
about how the Japanese, who are dealing with their extended first period of
slow-growth and/or recession, are turning to meditation and other spiritual
pursuits -- including the study of dreams, forming dream-groups, etc.

I guess they're doing their own "subtle reality check".
---
Michael Turner
Newsgroups: alt.dragons-inn,alt.pub.cloven-shield
From: awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca (Andrew Williams)
Subject: [SAM] Anyone got a light?
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:23:33 GMT

*A voice from the thick black darkness of the shadow plain is heard to mutter*


           "Did anyone bring anything to eat?"


Newsgroups: alt.dragons-inn,alt.pub.cloven-shield
From: conner@qucis.queensu.ca (Mike Conner)
Subject: [ADMIN]:C-LIST,LANDS,TOWN
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:08:35 GMT

Once we all move to alt.pub.cloven-shield I would like to ask for some
volunteers to take responsibilty for any of the following lists:

Character List:  This includes both a quick reference and full description
                 lists.  Also you are flagged to be e-mailed to when
                 a new character arrives.

Know Lands List/Maps:  This includes all the known maps in our group and
                       any detailed info on them including town names,
                       and those that live in them.

Think about it and let me know in the New Year.  Have a safe and happy
holiday (Christmas and New Years to those that apply).

:) Mike
Keeper of the FAQ
Creator of alt.pub.cloven-shield

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From: dmittelstadt@stpaul.ncr.com (Deets Mittelstadt)
Newsgroups: alt.dragons-inn,alt.pub.cloven-shield
Subject: Re: [ADMIN]:C-LIST,LANDS,TOWN
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:08:36 GMT
Organization: Facilities

In article <BzqoIB.Ir6@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> conner@qucis.queensu.ca (Mike Conner) writes:

>Once we all move to alt.pub.cloven-shield I would like to ask for some
>volunteers to take responsibilty for any of the following lists:

>Character List:  This includes both a quick reference and full description
>                 lists.  Also you are flagged to be e-mailed to when
>                 a new character arrives.

>Know Lands List/Maps:  This includes all the known maps in our group and
>                       any detailed info on them including town names,
>                       and those that live in them.

>Think about it and let me know in the New Year.  Have a safe and happy
>holiday (Christmas and New Years to those that apply).

>:) Mike
>Keeper of the FAQ
>Creator of alt.pub.cloven-shield







































q
Deets Mittelstadt, Facility Manager, NCR NPD, St.Paul, Minnesota
Email: Deets.Mittelstadt@stpaul.ncr.com
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From: conner@qucis.queensu.ca (Mike Conner)
Subject: [C&R/Meriden/Jester]:Strange sounds and lights
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:46:06 GMT

"Don't worry about me, I can take care of myself" Chalmers says once their
lips part "You seem to have gotten yourself into a bind and I want to be their
to help you mend it.", "Not another word about it, well have plenty of time
to talk about it once we get underway.", Chalmers reassurres her, "Is there
something I can get you from downstairs? Something hot perhaps, you must be
hungry?"

Just then a loud noise causes Chalmers to turn his head towards the door, in
time to see a bright light appear under it for a split second.  Grabbing one of
Ravens knives in his left hand and placing another at her side Chalmers runs
for the door. Turning to face Raven with a sly smile "Don't move, no sound,
and don't worry!" Chalmers opens the door slowly and stelthly slips out of the
room, closing the door silently behind him. 

Meriden, startled, looked where Jester was looking. *JINGLE*, *JINGLE* The
assassin looked up in horror and froze.  His gaze and Meriden's locked, and
then he turned and started back down the stairs.  Meriden, meanwhile, pulled
at the thread he had been fingering.  The pattern of a rose, to which it led,
unraveled and released a burst of colored light. A phantom polychromatic
rose hovered in the air over the table, it's petals changing colors madly,
it's leaves scintillating with every shade and hue of green.

The assassin began to smile, and moved wiht less deadly intent.  Meriden
began to speak, strange words which slid away from one's perception.  The
sounds seemed to press in at everyone in the room with a hidden menace.
Meriden stopped speaking and the assassin froze.  A look of betrayal covering
his face.

Chalmers hit the top of the stairs in silence in time to see the assassin
turn its back to him.  Chalmer's feet left the top step and landed square in
the assassins back sending him reeling down the remaining steps, his weapon
landing at the feet of Jester.  With the spring of cat Chalmers landed on
the assassin's chest, his legs at the assassins side.  With deathly speed
Chalmers pressed both thumbs into the assassins throat, no sound was heard,
the assassin was motionless.

"The #HOLD# spell would have worked but getting him to turn with the #CHARM# 
spell was ideal, again, my thanks, to both of you."  Chalmers said graciously.
"Barkeep, a bowl of hot soup and some bread to my room if you please, Raven
is recovering but still resting."  The barkeep headed for the kitchen with a
nod and a smile "I knew the young lass would pull through" the barkeep thought
to himself.

"Gentlemen, if you would car to follow me, I wish to ask this fellow a few
questions!", Chalmers, assassin in arms, Meriden and Jester, all assended
the stairs to Raven and Chalmer's room.

:)



Newsgroups: alt.dragons-inn,alt.pub.cloven-shield
From: pads@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen J. Padbury)
Subject: Re: [SAM] Anyone got a light?
Organization: Here?! Yeah, Right!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:52:48 GMT

>*A voice from the thick black darkness of the shadow plain is heard to mutter*
>           "Did anyone bring anything to eat?"
	Sam starts as a hand touches his shoulder.
	"Here," says a voice. As sam peers into the darkness he can almost make
out the shape of Ilure handing him a loaf of bread. As soon as he takes it,
Ilure seems to fade back into the darkness.


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From: Ryan_Bagueros@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Ryan_Bagueros)
Subject: Submissions
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Summary: 
Keywords: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 3 Jan 93 11:05:50 EST
Organization: Auldhaefen Associates


Hi everyone. 

As you might have seen, I posted a msg about Big Bush Fan, a magazine that
ridicules everything that mankind holds sacred. Well, from the SAME people
comes another new publication, heretofore untitled. The theme will be civil
liberties in the United States. The idea is a bi-monthly in-depth look at
the way our country is turning out. Just so you know, I am more than likely
a libertarian than anything else. The first issue will be dedicated to
electronic freedom, focusing especially on the BBS in Akron, Oh that was
busted. The second issue will be on cults and how laws should regulate
them.
 
If anyone would like to a) distribute these at your college or b) write for
them, please send me mail via Usenet. We're more than happy to receive any
contribution. More than likely, it will be published. Thanks a lot.
 
    Big Bush Fan
    P.O. Box 8655
    Canton, OH 44711

Distribution: Munster, In; Chicago, Il; Akron, Oh; Canton, Oh; Bowling
Green, Oh; Lviv, Ukraine; Milwaukee, Wi
Newsgroups: alt.zines,alt.amateur-comp,comp.misc,comp.society.future,alt.culture.usenet,alt.folklore.computers,alt.internet.servicesalt.bbs.internet,mi.misc
From: hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben)
Subject: The Wonderful World of Usenet News
Keywords: Usenet News Amateur Computerist Supplement 
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:39:49 GMT

The Fall '92 Special Supplement on Usenet News is now
available via anonymous FTP at the Amateur Computerist FTP site.
You can obtain a copy by ftping to wuarchive.wustl.edu. Log in as
"anonymous" and type your email address for the password.

Then "cd /doc/misc/acn" and
"get acn4-5.txt".

If anyone has problems retrieving this issue, please send me
email.

	For the Amateur Computerist,
	-Michael Hauben

PS: Or send me email if you want me to send it to you, or read
alt.amateur-comp to perhaps see if your site still contains the
posting if the issue.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Michael Hauben    CC '95      | Write ME for the NEW Amateur Computerist   |
| hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu | Special Supplement on Usenet News called   |
| am893@cleveland.freenet.edu   | "The Wonderful World of Usenet News"       |
From: spingo@panix.com (James Barnett)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: a year in the life...?
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:59:52 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I think it's a GREAT idea, Ed, but doubt you'd be able to recover 
glossy-printing costs, off the top of my head. How well did that 
Sensoria book do? that'd be the nearest thing to your project as far as 
I can see. Maybe xeroxed and bound with them little plastic ring-binder
thingies? Cover price of $10? 
	Or EVEN, organize it as a co-op kinda thing, with each mag chosen
contributing 200 photocopies of their 3 pages or something, kinda like an 
APA maybe? It'd get a taster of the individual mag into different people's
hands, anyway.
	Good luck and keep us updated!

-- 
James Barnett
spingo@panix.com
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: a year in the life...?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:39:39 GMT

I was wondering what kind of interest you think there would be in a
small press "year in the life" book?  A 100+ page book full of excerpts
from fanzines, journals, newsgroups, newspapers, comix, leaflets, ad
nauseum.  
 
I was looking through a book/zine a friend, Domenic Priore, put together
out in California...it was all about the surf/beach/mod/retro60's type
of scene and featured lots of appropriation, a few ads, interviews and
photos of several cool folks (my fave being Ed 'Big Daddy' Roth),
comics, memorabilia, and junk like that and ran 113 pages featuring 
two-color (red and black) covers.  It seemed like a cool little package
to have ahold of, despite it's low-end production quality.  
 
To get to the point....would any of you be interested in putting
together something like this as a "time capsule" for the middle of 93?
                       
If so...how many pages would you do?    

What are the printing costs for bound publications with glossy covers? 

Would you suggest accepting advertisers for fundage?

I thought dedicating 3 pages to each week for 6 months would be good...
with followups and filler in between and at the end to make it 100-125
pages.
 
I'm rushed for time here, excuse the hack post.  I'd like to get peoples
opinions on this (please post rather than email...so we all can
partake).
 
More lato...
...e
 
--
|| Ed Stastny.........   editor/archiver   qing bu-yao ba zhe-ke ye! 
|| ed@cwis.unomaha.edu   SOUND Magazine    ke-yi qing ni ba zhe-zhang
||||||||||||||||||||||   PO BX 31104         fang-da ma?
x|||||||||||||||||||||   Omaha, NE 68132   zhe bu-shi wo-de xie-zi...
From: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Fucktooth #6
Date: 1 Jan 1993 20:37:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu

F*cktooth #6 is now availabe for 50 cents and two stamps from
LMD
1298 SOM #130
Mayfield OH 44124

or from me in person.

includes articles on oregon, colorado, boston/massachusets, dadaism,
united front (american skinheads), news, "the secret of life: sex", poetry
and prose, and this months pick of the pit, Mark Buzza.

expect issue 7 out in februrary.

again, we welcome all contributions, gay or not, especially art and other
graphics.
-- 
"In the light of what you see, what shadows do I cast?"
Michael Lassell, "How To Visit the Grave of a Friend"
From: lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Louie Crew)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Publisher info available
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: <lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



I can send address information regarding journals:

1)  33 journals that accept poetry, from MLA serials directory
2)  77 journals that accept lesbigay materials
3)  65 journals that accept religious materials (possibly open to LBG subjects)

Send me private e-mail with one of the following SUBJ lines if you wish to
request from among these:

   Subject lines for private e-mail:

   MLA periodicals list        
   Lesbigay periodicals list
   Religious periodicals list
   All three periodicals lists

In the body of your message indicate the list where you saw this message.

If you use SISSY SOFTWARE FOR WRITERS, I can send the materials to you in the
format readable by that program.   If so, add "SISSY" to the end of your 
subject line.  Otherwise, these will come in standard ascii format as four
lines of address. 

Best wishes.

lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu



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From: Ryan_Bagueros@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Ryan_Bagueros)
Subject: Big Bush Fan
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Summary: 
Keywords: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 1 Jan 93 02:50:36 EST
Organization: Auldhaefen Associates




So this is for "zines" as you will? Well, I don't really like the name. But
a good one that is getting better is published by some high school
seniors/college students in the Ohio area called Big Bush Fan.. Bush does
not refer to the president, although you can see it has numerous ambiguous
meanings. If you would like a copy, send a SASE to:
 
   Big Bush Fan
   P.O. Box 8655
   Canton, OH 44711

 I guarantee you won't be disappointed.