From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: In x-Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 17:28:29 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <199212240333.AA15974@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>Second, Mutlu has picked a decent fight with the regulars in
>news.admin.policy. Highly entertaining. 

"Argic" is not good enough for you? You can mean whatever you like.
However, if you choose to use phrases on the net, you should either
define them clearly and unambiguously, or be prepared to accept
alternate interpretations, "sipa of delco".  In any event, I will 
leave aside all the savagery and massacres of Armenians, Armenian
irregular bands, and the Armenian Army, but will just mention to you 
the greatest of all their endless crimes.

The two years of their independence was the only time in which they had
complete political control upon their alien population. The entire Turkish
population of Armenia (which they called Tartars) constituted at least about
40% of the total population of Armenia was deliberately exterminated. (For
the population statistics, please look to the book of Richard Hovannessian,
"Armenia on the Road to Independence.") I listed three books earlier of such
a monstrous crime by the writings of one Armenian, one American, and one
British. They are: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill; "Adventures
in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson; "World Alive, A Personal
Story" by Robert Dunn. Also, I personally have copies of documents of this 
crime by the writings of two Armenians and also one American. The official 
British report about this massacre mentioned in one of these documents 
(Lord Curzon-Aharonin interview) is the report of the British High 
Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.

By Rachel A. Bortnick (a Jewish scholar)

"A more appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the
 systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of the 
 independent republic of Armenia (which lasted from 1918 to 1921),
 which consisted of at least 30-40 percent of the population of that
 republic. The memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated 
 in and eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in
 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."

It is about time for the x-Soviet Armenian government to publicly acknowledge 
the genocide of the entire Muslim population of the Armenian Dictatorship. 
I demand justice on behalf of 2.5 million innocent Muslims who were 
systematically exterminated by Dro (the butcher) and his blood-thirsty 
Nazi marauders. And the justice is long overdue.

The following is a partial list of the references on the Armenian 
genocide of 2.5 million Muslims (in English).

 1."Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill, Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 
   1926

   Memoirs of an Armenian Army Officer translated to English and
   published by a member of American "Near East Relief Organization."
   Gives the whole account of the genocide of all Turkish and Moslem
   people in Armenia organized and executed by Armenian Government and
   Army. Also gives account of countless other massacres and atrocities
   against the Turkish people in Armenia.

 2."Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson,
   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925

   Eyewitness account of the same genocide by a British Army Officer.

 3."World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn,
   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952

   Another eyewitness account of the same genocide by an American 
   Officer.

 4."From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne" by Avetis Aharonian,
   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 
   (Spring 1964)

   Memoirs of the chief Armenian delegate to the Paris Peace Conference
   were published in the Armenian Review Magazine in 13 articles from
   Volume 15 (Fall 1962) to Volume 17 (Spring 1964). These memoirs 
   include an interview between Aharonian and British Foreign Minister 
   Lord Curzon in which above-mentioned genocide was discussed. The 
   official report mentioned by Lord Curzon is the report of British 
   High Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.


Source: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.
University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.

"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the
 area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population
 of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were
 Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.
 Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third
 of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the 
 Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan
 uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians
 as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,
 however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the
 guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000
 inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character 
 notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian 
 Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the 
 southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia." 
 (See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of 
 Transcaucasia).

In 1920, '0' percent Turk. 

"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as 
 ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work 
 of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. 
 Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts 
 into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable 
 and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets 
 completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They 
 found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border 
 into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole 
 length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to 
 Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain 
 plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of 
 Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for 
 howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the 
 scattered bones of the dead." 

                             Ohanus Appressian
                            "Men Are Like That"
                                   p. 202.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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