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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SCAVENGER NOTES
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:45:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsu.1992Apr16.204547.14122
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Since I've been spreading the Gospal According to STAR WARS over in R.A.C.
I figured I should but in my thoughts here:

(Note, Info here comes from magazine articles of the past few years and should
be taken as such)

NEXT SW MOVIES:  I read in a movie mag (maybe PREVIEWS) that Lucas has planned
to have SW 1 ready for a May 97 release.  This is the 20th ann. of SW and the
25th ann. of LucasFilm(Amer.GRaf.).
	The movies would be done like BackToTheFutures 2/3 and be released
SW2 in 99 and SW3 in 2001 (some Space Oddesy,huh)
There has been rummors that Spielburg will direct SW1

SWRPG:  COncider this The Official Handbook to the Star Wars Universe.  LucasFil
m says that this is the new center that all new works will be based on.

ZAHN: Book 2 will be out in May.  The paper back of book 1 will be out in may as well.  This IS cannon and happens 5 years after ROTJ.

DARK EMPIRE: also Cannon, 7 years after ROTJ

YOUNG ADULT SERIES: (GLOVE OF DV, LOST CITY OF THE JEDI,etc) also cannon, 2 years after ROTJ.  Due out in JUNE/JULY

THE LARS: Owen Lars was Ben Kenobi's Brother.

DROIDS:  In theory, they will be in all of the films.

FALL OF THE REPUBLIC: Does anyone know if this is real(ie. Lucas or just 
fan-fiction, I've heard both.

that's it for now. BTW has anybody heard of a book called END OF THE EMPIRE?
We've been having a discussion over in RAC about this.
No one has heard of it except <<bike@athena.mit.edu>>.
He says that it is a novel, written by some one whos name starts w/ a "V"


anyhow....may the force...(you get the picture)

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From: u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:01:45 GMT

davies@owlnet.rice.edu (Stephen Clark Davies) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.202014.11075@socrates.umd.edu> john@socrates.umd.edu (John VanAntwerp) writes:
>>Harrison Ford's career got "launched" by "American Grafitti", several years
>>before "Star Wars" came out.
>>
>	Oh, come on, now.  He had a teensey weensey tiny little insignificant
>part in AG, not hardly enough to launch him to stellardom.  All he does is
>play a cocky truck driver who appears in about 3 scenes in the movie to 
>antagonize one of the main characters.  Actually, he wasn't even that good!

	I heard that he was actually working as a carpenter at the time,
either hired by the studio's  or george himself and when they were doing a 
run through of the script (just speaking the parts) for some reason whoever
was going to be doing the han solo part didn't turn up, and they needed a
stand-in, so they asked the carpenter (ford) to read it. George Lucas liked
his reading so much that he finally got the part...


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From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: Missing Scene in Star Wars
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:10:46 GMT

teebone@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rand Quinn) writes:


>From teebone Thu Apr 16 00:51:50 1992
>To: /s13/A/teebone/.article
>Subject: Missing Scene In Star Wars


>     Someone mentioned a scene in the movie that was later cut out.  My
>brother remembers a scene in which Luke talks to Biggs about the academy.
>I guess Luke may have been playing with his t16 model and there may have
>been some kind of pool hall.  Also, the Star Wars storybook has a photo
>of Luke talking to Biggs on Tatooine, so they did shoot it.


>     *TRIVIA*
>     What cell block did Han and Luke say Chewie was being transferred
>     from in Star Wars?  
THX1138 (a reference to Lucas' first film)

>     (What film did George Lucas make with Robert Duvall?)
See previous answer
-- 
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Columbus, OH                                       orson@bluemoon.rn.com
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From: h309@ellis.uchicago.edu (Unknown Author)
Subject: Re: Cut-scene 2
Reply-To: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Mindcrime
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:13:25 GMT

In article <92108.114447MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu> MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <92108.093721EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>, BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
>says:
>>
>>In article <1992Apr17.070910.4489@tc.cornell.edu>,
>>chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu
>>(Chris Wolf) says:
>>>
>>>I don't know if the scene was even ever filmed but I believe originally
>>>a scene where some of the Wampa's got into the rebel base and mauled
>>>some Taun-Taun's was planned.  Artoo was supposed to save the day by
>>>broadcasting some high-frequency noise or somesuch which either drove
>>>the creatures away or lured them into a trap.  I have no idea where I
>>>got this information from though...
>>>
>>
>>    I also remember hearing about that too. I can't remember if it was because
>>of the storybook, or it was in the trading cards somewhere along the way. Any
>> one else remember anything about R2 and the Wampas?
>>
>Come to think of it, I do recall *reading* a scene where R2 does something to a
>Wampa that breaks through part of a wall. Whether it was using high-frequency
>noise or some sort of wampa-cide I don't know. I also seem to recall reading
>a scene where the probe droid takes out one of the sentry posts. I think most
>of these recollections come from the comics or novelization.
>
   There is a storybook with pictures for Empire Strikes Back (as well as
the other two movies) which I got quite a while ago when I was a kid.
The R2-Wampa thing was in this book I believe.

  P.S. Is "Wampa" the official name for this creature? I remember the toy
was named "Wampa", but they never used the term "Wampa" in the movie.


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From: davies@owlnet.rice.edu (Stephen Clark Davies)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:22:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.202014.11075@socrates.umd.edu> john@socrates.umd.edu (John VanAntwerp) writes:
>Harrison Ford's career got "launched" by "American Grafitti", several years
>before "Star Wars" came out.
>
	Oh, come on, now.  He had a teensey weensey tiny little insignificant
part in AG, not hardly enough to launch him to stellardom.  All he does is
play a cocky truck driver who appears in about 3 scenes in the movie to 
antagonize one of the main characters.  Actually, he wasn't even that good!

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From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS? (1st post?)
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 18:52:05 GMT

>>>We just had a 35mm copy of Star Wars here at SUNY Buffalo a few weeks back
>>>and it clearly had a "Chapter IV" or some other such designation.
>>>While this could be a re-release, I find that doubtful considering the
>>>shape the film was in and the cost for 35mm prints.
>>>
>> I don't believe that it had anything about episode IV in the original 
>>title - please reference my other post about the film being edited. - Did 
>>your copy have the ce port scene in it ?

>I agree with Sharon that there wasn't a reference in the first movie.
>I *think* that there was something about 'Episode V' for Empire Strikes Back
>and am positive that Return of the Jedi opened with 'Episode VI.  Blah blah
>blah'.

The original Star Wars did NOT say Chapter IV when first released in 1977.
It was re-released in 1979, a year before TESB.  That release DID say
"Chapter IV A New Hope".

The reason? Lucas did not want to commit to a series before the success of
the first was assured.  Also, who would go see SW IV if no one has seen
I, II & III?  Once the runaway success of SW was assured, _then_ it was
made public that the plan was for nine, and the reediting of SW was done.

-- 
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Columbus, OH                                       orson@bluemoon.rn.com
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From: bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael Y Fan)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:13:55 GMT

In article <SFD.92Apr16120210@bezier.bezier.berkeley.edu> sfd@bezier.berkeley.edu (Scott Drellishak) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.120145.11632@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes:
>	   I heard that he was actually working as a carpenter at the time,
>   either hired by the studio's  or george himself and when they were doing a 
>   run through of the script (just speaking the parts) for some reason whoever
>   was going to be doing the han solo part didn't turn up, and they needed a
>   stand-in, so they asked the carpenter (ford) to read it. George Lucas liked
>   his reading so much that he finally got the part...
>
>Is this a joke?  No offense, it's just that that *is* the story of how
>Frank Silva (I think) got the part of Killer Bob on Twin Peaks.  But, we
>know HF was an actual actor, who had been in a Lucas movie, so I doubt that
>George just "stumbled" onto him.
>
>Scott

This is not a joke.  I remember the same thing.  Lucas said it during an
interview.  I think it was the PBS special.  He originally didn't consider
FOrd because he didn't want anyone from American Graffiti.

						Mike Fan
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From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: Scripts~!!!!!!
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:05:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.053128.28062@cs.tulane.edu> jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.204416.21545@midway.uchicago.edu> h309@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>
>>   Any body have scripts for the Star Wars series, or know an ftp site
>>for them?
>>
>>  Please mail them to: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
>>
>>Please mail, since I tend to type 'c' here because so much traffic! :)
>
>No, please don't... or at least mail them to me as well...
>
>jordan@cs.tulane.edu 

Please mail the script to me as well, or post any possible ftp sites on
this group. What about that gif ftp site - would that have a script as well ?
From: longstre@ws-58.cae.wisc.EDU (Jon Longstreth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:26:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr17.142605.21259
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Originator: longstre@ws-58.cae.wisc.edu


|> and there were some changes made to the movie. I distinclty remember a scene
|> in which Luke is talking to his friend about the Space Academy or some such
|> thing, but when I saw the movie again, several months later, and rented it
|> on video cassette that scene was not there. I used to own a comic book 
|> version of the movie that we bought at the theater when we first saw it in
|> June of 1977 and this scene was in it. I no longer have the comic book but
|> my brother insists that Luke had a cousin Duke. That I can't say for sure.
|> Does anybody else remember this scene ?
YES! 
I don't remember the name of Luke's cousin but I definitely remember the scene
No one that I know seems to remember it though.
I saw star wars twice in the first year, and that scene was deleted by the
second time I saw it, and I've never seen it since.

I've always wondered if this was something I was just not remembering 
corectly or what.
Thank you for fixing my self doubt.
(Silly of me to doubt myself in the first place :-)


Does any one know if it is possible to get an "un-cut" version of this
classic film?
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From: shadow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Paulus)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS? (1st post?)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:55:11 GMT


	Harrison Ford said he didn't want to do any more Indy movies (he's
50+, for goodness sake! Sean Connery, who played his dad, is ONLY a few years
older!) because of his age.
	Ah well....he will be missed.

	But what's the deal with the Star Wars movies? Anybody have any
connections?


--JP--
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Subject: Radio Star Wars (was Re: Antilles)
From: wilde@husc8.harvard.edu (Robert Wilde)
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:24:47 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr16.144429.8541@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> kihlstro@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Merlin) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.040857.22871@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (ronald reagan) writes:
>>Am I imagining or are there huge inconsistancies in the books and movies with
>>the name "Antilles".  I haven't read the books in awhile, and I haven't payed
>>close attention to the movie in awhile, but I seem to recall an abundance of
>>the name "Antilles":  C3P0 and R2D2 say something about "Our last master was
>>Captain Antilles", isn't Leia's father's name Antilles, and isn't Wedge's last
>>name Antilles?  
>...
>I personally think that C3PO knows more that we are lead to believe, he
>isn't exactly telling luke the truth. PLus when C3PO and R2D2 split
>apart from the pod... C3PO says ... "NO more adventures... "
>
>cory

	In the radio boradcast of Starwars (which was a long time ago, and
many details are sketchy) there were a lot of additional scenes (it was
something like five or six hours long).  Antilles was most definately the
Captain of the ship Leia was on.  I believe that when vader says "You are part
of a rebel alliance and a traitor" and finally kills the guy he's been
strangling, that he was interrogating Antilles.  As for the adventures of
C3PO and R2, in the radio broadcast something happens to the ship while its
being chased and they send R2 outside to do repairs.
	The radio broadcast had a lot of additional material, but I don't
know whether you'd consider it "canon" or not (I think Lucas was involved but
I'm not sure).
Bob

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From: rich@locus.com (Rich (the Wiz) Silva)
Subject: Re: TRIVIA
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:18:26 GMT

cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:

>In article <1992Apr16.055433.25085@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> BACS Data Communications Group <commgrp@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>>Michael Y Fan writes:
>>
>>>>OBTrivia:  How many parsecs did the Falcon make the Kessel run in?
>>
>>>The Falcon made the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs.
>>>
>>>                                           Mike Fan
>>
>>That's a technical flaw!  A parsec is a (very large) unit of 
>>distance, not time. It's 3.08572 x 10^13 kilometers (aprox. 4 
>>light years).  Saying that the Falcon made the Kessel run in 
>>under 12 parsecs is like saying you ran the 50-yard dash in less 
>>than 40 feet.  On the other hand, who knows what weird geometry 
>>warp/hyper/sub space might have!
>>

>Not necessarily.  You don't know what the context of the question was.  "The
>Kessel Run" is most likely a shipping route, one which may be relatively
>clouded with debris.  Thus, the quality of the pilot may be rated by how
>short a distance he makes it in (the shorter the distance, the more direct
>the route, the more dangerous it is through the debris/obstacles).


Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha,  You just dont know how Hyperspace works ;-)
You see its like this..... In hyper space, speed is constant... so
the way you get to somewhere faster is to make the path through
hyperspace shorter... See, so the Falcon went "less then 12 parsecs" through
hyperspace to complete the Kessel run.... After all these Millenia
you see, usage drifts, and the distance is used as equivalent to
the time it took! See Easy.... All you need is this little yellow
switch.... ;-)


Dont we have something more important to discuss here? Sheesh!
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From: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: The "Force"---- an inconsistency?
Reply-To: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:14:51 GMT

There seems to be a logical consistency in the concept of "force".
Remember, when Luke has his ship sunk in the mud(?) when he goes to meet
Yoda?  After using the "force" to recover the ship, Yoda tells Luke that
nothing is big or small for the "force". In other words, he seems to indicate
that anything of any size can be moved about using the "force" with equal
ease. If so, why doesn't Luke use the force to destroy the death star, and
the power generator ?? Perhaps the "dark side" that the emperor and Darth Vader
used to derive their powers from would prevent that. But then, once the
emperor and Vader were taken care of, could Luke use the force to say throw
the death star  intro the sun, and hence destry it without risking the lives
of the rebel fleet that attacked the death star?

-Jasjit
jasjit@cc.gatech.edu
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From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (ronald reagan)
Subject: Re: Finally! Its here!. and...some comments.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
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Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 05:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.041258.5660@CS.ORST.EDU> wilsobr@mist.CS.ORST.EDU
(Blooberry muffins!) writes: 

|
|   On another topic... Does ANYONE have any contact with Lucasfilms, such
|as the lucasfilms newsletter for the fan club? We need to quell the 
|rumors abounding on this group. Of the first 65 articles on my site,
|more than half were about the question of how many chapters there are in
|the trilogy. If anyone has any RELIABLE new information, I think there would
|be many interested readers.  
|
|Brian Wilson
|wilsobr@mist.cs.orst.edu
|"the first of MANY posts 8-}"

This might be of interest to some:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Lucasfilm Fan Club
P.O. Box 111000
Aurora,  CO     80011
USA

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(I'm not connected, not even a member, so please don't bitch about
advertising)

(I'd suggest sending 'em an SASE for more info, but I think membership is $10
for a year - don't quote me..Check a StarLog or other crappy sf mag for more
info) 

BTW, I think since the address is in Aurora, CO (where I live) they might be
affiliated with a store/wharehhouse/organization called Starland that has TONS
of sf (It's the kind of place you find those people who ask questins like "In
episode 49 of Star Trek The Next Generation, entitled _Q Who_ doesn't Troi look
really beautiful?"

And, of course, the ultimate reply to comments like that, spoken by William
Shatner on SNL:  "Get A Life!"

But, anyway, if you're ever in Denver, get a phone book and look that place up
(it's real hard to find)...It's worth a visit, IMHO...(lots of rare collector's
crap) 

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From: tap1040@venus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:10:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.135624.24868@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, geiger@cae.wisc.edu (Joey Geiger) writes...
>According to Cinefantasique June 1992, George Lucas says he will
>not be doing another Starwars movie.  He is bored with the concept.
> 
>He will also not do any more Indiana Jones films (obviously...)
> 
>The "Heir to the Empire" book may help change his mind though..


He was just on "Good Morning America" a couple of weeks ago and said he
WILL be doing the first three.  He said the story is already written, it's just
a matter of his finding the energy to do it.  He said when he is finished with
the "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" he will have enough time then.  He said
in about 5 or 6 years is when he expects to be able to devote his attention to
the project. 

________________________________________________________________________________

                                 -SPEED RACER-                    
                                     Tracy      
                              Texas A&M University
                                   WHOOP!!!!
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From: ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff)
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the Lars'
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:50:48 GMT

RE:  Owen Lars, Luke's "Uncle"

I just finished reading the book version of RETURN OF THE JEDI.  I 
was surprised to find that Owen is indeed Obi Wan's brother and no
relation to Luke.  Sorry, I can't cite the exact page as I don't have
the book here at work.  This makes much more sense than his being
Anikin Skywalker's brother (or brother in law).

--Haridas
From: forbes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Andrew H. Forbes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Excuse me for my ignorance...(SWRPG)
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:14:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Call me ignorant (please).  I haven't been in a hobby shop in quite a
while, and reading this board I see that there is a SW RPG.  I was/am
a HUGE SW fan (like everyone else here).  Could someone please send me
some info on the game (manufacturer, playability, etc.) 

thank you for your support...

SW blurb trivia question: IN what movie (and scene) are the following
two words said (excuse the spelling)

"Nerf Herder"



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