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From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Repost: Re: Is Islam and Pakistan?
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:01:12 GMT

In article <l9srceINN9if@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu> hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.231246.11402@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>>
>>What's so amoral about sticking to the tradition of calling oneself
>>Muslim??? If one's perception of Islam allows him to be less fanatical,
>>he/she doesn't become obliged to renounce allegiance to Islam. 
>
>Well, if someone calls himself a Muslim then s/he should also
>be prepared to be treated according to the laws of his/her
>beliefs! 
>
>You may have disagreement at the interpretation of a principle but
>this disagreement can not make you beyond the law. It is as if a 
>US citizen who benefits from social security but at tax time
>balks at paying the IRS taxes! If you are a US citizen you 
>have to pay the taxes (period).
>
>You have every right to disagree with the penalties levied
>by IRS. However, the disagreement can ONLY be valid if
>you can show within the rules of IRS that you are exempted.
>TO get an exemption, you can't apply Pakistani tax laws.
>What BB and liberals want to do, is akin to invoking Pakistani 
>rules to get exemption from IRS penalties. They must realize,
>if they have any intellectual ability, that exemption can
>ONLY be granted under IRS rules. The way out is not to start
>castigating IRS, but understanding IRS rules and use them
>to your benefit. 
>

Irfan bhai, are you out of your mind? Where do the laws come
from.... how can you take something as a law without being sure
of its source. Laws in democratic systems are not revealed by any 
gods (who may or may not exist). They are made by the representatives
of people... how can you compare the two.

I really think I'm wasting my time discussing with you. 

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7882  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: asim@heckle.ugcs.caltech.edu (A. M. Mughal)
Subject: Re: desi gif's ?
Organization: Caltech Undergraduate Computer Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:00:06 GMT

In article <BtoLno.8Hy@acsu.buffalo.edu> memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:
>In article <27AUG199223191826@iago.caltech.edu> mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
>>In article <BtoAIL.3uw@acsu.buffalo.edu>, memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes...
>>>In article <Aug.27.22.09.53.1992.16929@gandalf.rutgers.edu> amarmahb@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Amar Mahboob Ali) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Does there exist such a thing as a public gif site containing images
>>>>relating to the Sub-Continent. Any help would be greatly appretiated.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>Amar Mahboob
>>> 
>>>Try the scp archive at z.eecs.umich.edu.
>>>You should be able to get in with an annonymous ftp. send in your login id
>>>as password. Gifs are not in pub/scp but may be in a separate directory called
>>>pub/gif. There were about 12 gifs, all of them were of good quality, especiallu
>>>one picture of a girl selling oranges in Quetta(?)
>>> 
>>>Check it out and let me know if they are still there, has been more than 
>>>6 months since I last checked the site.
>>
>>	AA! I checked it out just now and was not able to find the gifs I 
>>	saw there a long time ago. There is only one, k2.gif. Btw, there is 
>>	directory /scp with sub-directories of some SCPians. I took the 
>>	liberty of making a sub-dir for myself and have put some personal
>>	files in there... :)
>>
>>
>>		z.eecs.umich.edu  ftp anonymous  /pub/scp/mughal
>>
>>	Asim Mughal
>>	[Standard Disclaimer]
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Naveed
>
>Try under the sub-directory called images. The files are still there, I 
>just checked. Some gif maybe compressed.
>
>
>
>Naveed

	Thanks, another effort made the difference, this time didn't jump 
	into 'pub' ... here is a short list of files available. file:images.doc

baluch.gif        desert scene.  Baluchistan (Pakistan)
buddha.gif        fasting Buddha from Taxila, Punjab (Pakistan)
                  Big image -- you may have to resize your window!
halamosque.gif    mosque with blue tiles, Hala, Sind (Pakistan)
indus.gif         boats on the Indus river, Sind (Pakistan)
iqbal.gif	  a gif file of a poem by iqbal
jahangir.gif      Jahangir's tomb (built by Shah Jahan)
                  Lahore, Punjab (Pakistan)
k2.gif            Karakoram 2 (Godwin-Austin) mountain (Pakistan)
kkh.gif           Karakoram Highway (Pakistan)
narangi.gif       boy selling oranges: Peshawar, NWFP (Pakistan)
saifulmuluk.gif   lake Saiful Muluk, NWFP (Pakistan)
shalimar.gif      Shalimar gardens (built by Shah Jahan)
                  near Lahore, Punjab (Pakistan)
srinagar.gif      famous b/w photograph by Henri Cartier-Bresson, 1948.
                  Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir (India)
tajmahal.gif      Taj Mahal, Agra (India)
tomb.gif          tomb of Bibi Jaiwindi: Uch Sharif, Punjab (Pakistan)
                  after Maharaja Ranjit Singh
--

Asim Mughal

[Standard Disclaimer]
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Woody Allen Joke
Date: 25 Aug 92 08:56:23 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong


>That's right. That brings the question why Islam puts a limit of
>4 on the number of wives. If X can do just justice with 4 wives,
>Y may be able to do so with 7.

>Sumitro


So you are going for seven.


Bye
Adil
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: blue eyes shine ice
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:21:19 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Aug31.001453.5080@ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
>In article <714854830@flounder.cs.duke.edu> azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>>	   Gimme dark eyes, black hair, and a heart of gold
>>	   And, forever, my friend, I wont ask you for anymore

>You mean a heart of gold by it self wou'nt cut it?
>:-) j n a.


	*   Given the choice, I would rather have all three
	*   I have been choice
	*   Hence, I would opt for all three :-)

	   Salman [in vacant and pensive mood] Azhar

-- 
"To have loved and lost is better than to have won.... For, the burden
of victory has to be shouldered throughout life, and all losses rest
easy in the insatiable abyss called grave." 
--- D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar CS Dept Duke U  azhar@cs.duke.edu
From: amarmahb@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Amar Mahboob Ali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: desi gif's ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:09:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Does there exist such a thing as a public gif site containing images
relating to the Sub-Continent. Any help would be greatly appretiated.

Thanks in advance

Amar Mahboob
From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: humm aaa gaa-aye tou garmi-e-baazar daikhna....
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:47:20 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep3.142639.25771@athena.mit.edu> anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM) writes:
>
>
>
>Hello folks......its good to be back.......specially for someone
>who never went anywhere :-)
>
>
>
>	tairay gham ko jaaN ki taalash thi
>	tairay gham gusaar chaalay gaa-aye
>
>	sar-e-raah  kartay thay saar talab
>	sar-e-rah-guzaar  chaalay  gaa-aye		(Faiz)
>

Adil, you are back. Thank you, thank you. I missed your articles. Thank
you brother.

        Now you've reminded me of the ghazal and I am not able to
	recall it completely. Can someone correct me or add accordingly

	tairay ghum ko jaaN kee talaash thee,tairay jan-nisaar chalay gayay
	teeree rah main kartay thay sar talab, sar e ereh guzaar chalay gayay

	na saval e vasl na arz e ghum na hikayataiN na shikayataiN
	tairay ahd maiN dil e zaar kay sabhee ikhtiyaar chalaya gayay

	yeh hamaiN thay jin kay libaas say sar e roh seyayhee likhee gayay
        **** (getting lost here)

    (*)	na raha junoon e rukhay vafa veh rasan yeh daar karo gay kya
        **** (getting lost here, sorry)

        where does the following misra go,
	jinhaiN jurm e ishq peh naaz thaa, vo gunah gaar chalay gayay. I think
	it makes sense in (*)

	 My apologies to Faiz fans.
>
>
>	ADIL [tumm aa-aye ho na shab-e-intizaar guzri hai
>	      ajeeb  rang  meiN aab  kay bahar  guzri hai] NAJAM
>
>
>
>	P.S.	Could Zia Zafir or Naveed Memon please correct
>		verse in my signature (from Faiz).....I think I 
>		am missing or misquoting a word somewhere......
>		.....and yes, the signature verse is a reference,
>		and a very painful one at that, to my summer...

tum ayay ho na shab e intizaar guzree hay
talaash maiN hay sahr bar bar guzree hay
junooN maiN jitnee bhee guzree bakaar guzree hay
agarchay dil pay kharabee hazaar guzree hay
(correct me here) vo ayay haiN, na on say milay, na may pee hay
ajeeb rang main abkay bahaar guzree hay
(and the ever popular) vo baat saray fasanay maiN jis ka zikr na tha
vo baat onko buhat nagavaar guzree hay

(there are couple of other shers that I am forgetting)
From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Go ahead, put me on your kill file, could'nt care less! (RE: Straw)
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:16:34 GMT
Organization: UB

From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: ever heard of the KILLFILES?(was RE:Strawberry Fields Forever

>> [part2+latest flashback of crazy recollections]
>[garbage disposed of thanks to BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT] 
>and waking up the khan-baba who owned the herd.
                   ^^^^^^^^^
>[yet another miraculous patchwork by BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT]   
 
>> Another famous pathan in the neighbourhood owned a bhutta-stand(corncob).
                 ^^^^^^

>> Head to yet-yunder pathan who
                     ^^^^^^

> Naveed

>
>WELCOME TO MY KILLFILES BIGOT.  
>YOU ARE PROBABLY THE KIND WHO WOULD HAVE CALLED THE BLACKS "NIGGERS
>IF YOU HAD BLOND HAIR OR BLUE EYES
>THE SADDEST PART OF IT ALL IS THAT YOU AND 99% OF KARACIATES ARE RASCISTS
>IN THE THIRD DEGREE
>WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT

>ANY LAST WORDS?


>PAKHTOON AND PROUD OF IT 
>AAKHAN



Wow!  ghusa thoko bhai. All the pathans mentioned in my article were mentioned
out of affection. The Bhutta-stand owner knew me as a regular customer and
while other street vendors would ignore me, he was kind to me. Those were
my exact words.

The bakreeyan-owner was a sleepy old man, for all a 12 year old kid would
care, he could have been a bihari, Sindhi, Muhajir, Punjabi, Baluchi, Pathan,
Brohi, and I would still show him my respects.


Looks like you want to want me as a bigot, it is totally your choice and you
are entitled to put me in your kill file, it is your loss not mine.

Now since your article is in all caps, I can safely assume that you are new
to this newsgroup thing.

About Karachiites being 99.9% racist, I have all non-Sindhi friends, yes not
a single Sindhi friend, most of them are Pirzadas, Sheikhs of Lahore, and
Afridis of NWFP. Mutual respect, love and understanding is the key to 
friendships, the prerequisite, not being so immersed in ethnocentricity that
you are blinded from basic logic and decency.



>PAKHTOON AND PROUD OF IT 
>AAKHAN


Whatever you say bro!
O BTW, there is a Naveed Ahmad Khan at Wichita State. Childhood buddy from
Habib School in Karachi. Look him up and confirm that indeed the mix of
friends was multi-racial.



Naveed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: asim@heckle.ugcs.caltech.edu (A. M. Mughal)
Subject: Re: Multiple wives
Organization: Caltech Undergraduate Computer Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:20:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.001946.1221@uceng.UC.EDU> mghayalo@uceng.UC.EDU (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.105647.30474@davidsys.com> merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
>>Women have different relationships with women then men have with men.
>>Men are more competitive by nature.  Anyhow, it is just an observation
>>that I have made about the relationships between men and women and
>>I really don't care to elaborate on this point.
>>
>Females can be extremely competative too. We saw that in the olympics.
	
	But that still doesn't mean they can't live together under the 
	same room.            
>>> 
>>> to force women to wear burkhas.
>>
>>People have a wrong idea about women wearing burkhas as women being
>>suppressed and subjected to man's will.  It probably comes from some
>>of the countries that do subject their women in the name of the Islam.
>>Lots of women practise the hijab freely (OUT OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL), 
>>and it is because they are following the Prophets (pbuh) teachings!
>>
>Majority of them are not.  Here in the US I have never seen a muslim
>girl in purdah. 

	I have seen  almost ALL,including talking about new Muslims. 
	They practise hijab because they want to. One reason, other than 
	feeling good about following Islam, it gives them the 'Muslim  
	Identity, otherwise you won't be able to tell them apart from 
	the 'crowd.'
	
 		
>>
>>-Rukhsana Merchant
>Manoj


--

Asim Mughal

[Standard Disclaimer]
From: u9066624@cc.uow.edu.au (Tippu Hassan)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC BROTERHOOD - BOSNIA V/S SOMALIA
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 11:54:39 GMT

g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:


>B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:

> Why are
>>the islamic governments of IRAN ,Pakistan, Bangladesh who
>>are all very vocal on Bosnia supply food and medicine
>>to Somalia or Islamic Brotherhood just stops at the gate
>>of Africa.

>>That only tells about total HYPOCRACY Of ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD
>>and ISLAMIC Equality.

>>Regards,

>>bkumar



>What a good slap on the Pseudo Islamic Brotherhood.

>These Pseudo Islamic countries are active only for those Muslims who are 
>under trouble from other religious groups and not when they are killed
>by other Muslims or natural disaster.


did you know adil that pakistan is sendind 5000 troops to somalia to help 
in the distribution of food there???????

Please do your research before you post these articles cause one thing i hate
is bringing politics into natural disasters where people are dying.....

>What major steps ISlamic countries have taken for Kurds before Gulf War?
>None.
>

Let me just say that saddam (mad ass) has always been an agent of the US.
Think about it........

Because Kurds rights were deprived by fellow Muslims and not by a Christan
>country.
>It is wrong to critisize ISlamic countries on Black and White racism.

>But it is 100% true that these Pseudo Islamic Countries'
>Pseudo Islamic Brotherhood become active only when they think
>**Islam is in danger** because of other religion.



>What a shame!!!
>What a shame!!!


That only proves the brotherhood adil cause you can take abuse from 
someone in the family but not outsiders

>Bye
>Adil


keep smiling  :)


TIPPU BADSHAH

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: asim@heckle.ugcs.caltech.edu (A. M. Mughal)
Subject: Re: desi gif's ?
Organization: Caltech Undergraduate Computer Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:51:42 GMT

In article <Aug.27.22.09.53.1992.16929@gandalf.rutgers.edu> amarmahb@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Amar Mahboob Ali) writes:
>
>Does there exist such a thing as a public gif site containing images
>relating to the Sub-Continent. Any help would be greatly appretiated.
>

	Some gif files are available thru Pakistan News Service. A list
	of .gif and other public domain files can be obtained by sending
	an e-mail message to LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITnet. The text of the 
	messages should simply say;

	INDEX PAKISTAN

	Files can be retrieved from the LISTSERV by following the exact
	procedure. Only this time the text of the message should have 
	the following general format;

	GET PAKISTAN filename


	[Where 'filename' is the name of file one intends to retrieve]


	If everything fails, send an email to PAKISTAN@ASUACAD.BITnet and 
	someone will help you further :)


	Asim Mughal
	Spokesman,
	Pakistan News Service

	PAKISTAN@ASUACAD.BITnet
	PAKISTAN@PSUVM.BITnet
>Thanks in advance
>
>Amar Mahboob


--

Asim Mughal

[Standard Disclaimer]
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Multiple Wives
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:58:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <715023497@lear.cs.duke.edu> azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>Personally, I am not for 4 wives. I would prefer 3 wives in
>conjunction with one rotating spot for Saturday nights. However, allow
>me to enter this conversation as impersonally as I could.
>dsqa

	   Yeah, before I get flamed beyond recognition, I must confess
that male human, by its very nature, is not monogamous.

dsqa

PS: Those who are still planning to flame need to work on humor
deficiency syndrome, for dsqa omits smileys for humor impaired.

-- 
"To have loved and lost is better than to have won.... For, the burden
of victory has to be shouldered throughout life, and all losses rest
easy in the insatiable abyss called grave." 
--- D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar CS Dept Duke U  azhar@cs.duke.edu
From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: ever heard of the KILLFILES?(was RE:Strawberry Fields Forever
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:58:42 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug31.184552.11795@leland.Stanford.EDU> usman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Usman Hameed) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.162742.70@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>>In article <Btn0E0.2q3@acsu.buffalo.edu>, memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:
>
>>> Another famous pathan in the neighbourhood owned a bhutta-stand(corncob).
>>                 ^^^^^^
>>[yet another miraculous patchwork by BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT]   
>>
>>> Head to yet-yunder pathan who
>
>>THE SADDEST PART OF IT ALL IS THAT YOU AND 99% OF KARACIATES ARE RASCISTS
>>IN THE THIRD DEGREE
>>WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT
>>
>>ANY LAST WORDS?
>>
>>
>>PAKHTOON AND PROUD OF IT 
>>AAKHAN
>
>
>That's contradictory.  If he's unwittingly tactless, you can at
>most condemn him of insensitivity and ignorance.  To be a 
>racist would involve premeditated hostility towards pathans, whereas
>his article portrays them with an indulgent fondness and sense of
>humor.  If at all, bigotry is an issue in your blanket categorisation:
>
>99% OF KARACIATES ARE RASCISTS IN THE THIRD DEGREE...
>
>Finally, I am heartened to note your support for and pride in Pakhtoons.
>
>Regards,
>
>Usman

Well you put it better than I could. Mr Aakhan has however refused to
acknowledge my email. Maybe the stuff about kill files is serious. 
As if I care! :) 


Naveed
From: alam@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ALAM AFSHAN)
Subject: Re: Strawberry Fields Forever (1,2,3 + latest addition)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:43:13 GMT

memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:

>          Dedicated to sis Afshan, the poetess, who's mining for truth in the 
honor'd i'm sure, not to mention delighted!
>          serene rocky mountains the last we heard :)
and may she find it! aameen!

>	  		Strawberry Fields Forever
i loved it!what w/ :)  (longish sentence ahead:))
the ganDayriaaN,the bhuTTay,the highs:) from lking at the sky (the 1st time
it happ'd to me was when i was on my 1st return trip from madras after having
sat for hours alone at the beech staring the breakers.the clds all insisted
on lking like so many brking waves!), the spinning around like crazy aka
kikli, the gulayls(+ the gulliDanDa, the gali meiN cricket), the patangs (we
used to live on the 1st flr (delhi-style) & innumerable kites dropped into
our balcony after being cut in mid-air paichbaazi.it was a veritable blackhole
for kites:)), not the cigarettes tho:), & the labraizing paimanas of parents'
sabr for other reasons:) and the eidi u'v now made me properly homesick! 
the crushed ice we had was cov'd w/  sickly sweet red and green syrups of 
mostly unknown origins, but was nonetheless v popular.i must admit the refce
to peepla,shuttle cock burqas not to mention intimate gestures inv crossing
of arms had me somewhat mystified :) but thats the price 1 pays for not
growing up in karachi :).
Afshan. r u going away naveed.& does this mean i'll have to revert to rdg t.b:)
damn!:)
From: shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Election '92.
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:24:22 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.



Against the backdrop of recent events, George Bush's continued presidential
ambitions could only have played out as a farce and they are well on course
to so doing.  Hardly a week out of Houston and the Republican rhetoric is
already turning sour.  Bill Clinton is the next president of the United
States.  He will win in November by a wide margin if not by an outright
landslide.

I find most Pakistanis supporting Bush simply for the fact that he is
Republican.  We are overcome by the generalization that Republicans are
good for Pakistan and Democrats are not.  At best, this conviction is
predicated on circumstantial evidence; as a generalization, it is almost
certainly untrue.  The two periods when Pakistan was closest to the
United States was in the 60's under Ayub Khan and in the 80's under Zia.
In the first instance, the White House was Democratic [until 1968] and
in the second instance it was Republican.  Moreover, in the case of the
Republican-sponsored US-Pakistan friendship of the 80's, cynicism comes
easily and is perhaps justified since the relationship resulted in the
de facto approval of a dictatorship in Pakistan.  Even during the war
of 1971, when Pakistan felt betrayed by the US, a Republican, Richard
Nixon, was in office.

There are other, less direct, reasons for believing that Republicans are
good for Pakistan.  The Democrats are seen as pro-Indian (thanks to
the check-bouncing Stephen Solarz) and as pro-Israel.  This reasoning
is based on the premise that my enemy's friend is my enemy also.  This
is silly and we should give the Democrats more credit.

The glaring truth is that Pakistan doesn't count.  It is not a variable
in any world equation visible from the American vantage.  The belief that
the party affiliation of the American president will dictate the
strength of US-Pakistan relations is a falsehood perpetrated on our
national psyche by our unwarranted sense of self-importance.  In the
aftermath of Benazir's dismissal in 1990, Sam Donaldson of ABC News
reported from Islamabad in "Prime Time Live" that Pakistanis widely
believe their country is run by the three A's: Allah, Army and America.
**America**!  What a joke, he must have thought, as would any politically
aware American.  Who cares ?  Not America.  Not these days.


  
--
From: baveja@acsu.buffalo.edu (Alok Baveja)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Mujahid Mubarak Ali Khan
Keywords: Music, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:21:53 GMT
Organization: UB

During their recent performace of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and group
in US and Canada, Mujahid Mubarak Ali Khan was missing. Does anybody
know the reason? In my opinion, Mujahid gives a lot of depth to the
versatility which Nusrat offers. 

Thanks.

Alok
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: AHMADIYYAT.....Ahmad's FALSE prophecies???
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:28:31 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong




No doubt Hazarat Qadiyani was a noble man.

Long live Hazrat Qadiyani's idea.

Bye
Adil (the Judge)
From: 92siddiqui@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: English-Urdu Combos
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:40:58 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Aug26.165657.4749@seas.gwu.edu>, ahmad@seas.gwu.edu (Aftab Ahmad) writes:
> 
> 
> 	For Example kay tor par
> 
> 	By God di qasmei'N
> 
> 	Nothing vee nai'N
> 
> Any hore?

Dear Sohneo
=============================================================================
 If you do not know sweet punjabi language, meherbani farmaao tey raham karo.
 Sjjan.
=============================================================================
Tariq