From: Orakel@sarpih.no (Jens Kr. Kirkeb)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: How civilian buy gun in Europe?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:59:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulrik.9210151716.AAulrik12420
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole

In article <9210142147.AA03965@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> minh@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.
gov (Minh Lang) writes:>In article <1992Oct14.155728.16581@walter.bellcore.
com> Wind Chen,>bellcore!bae.bae.bellcore.com!wind@uunet.UU.NET writes:
##Hi rec.guns netter,
##
##I am trying to find out how civilian buy gun in European country 
##as well as the gun law.

#The following is a message that I quoted from  Kees Huyser,
#who lives in Netherlands:

#========= begin quote =============

#Guns are not too easy to get in the Netherlands. The process works as
#follows:
#1      Find a gun club. Since most of them are not in the phonebook, you
#       basically have to find somebody who is already a member.
#2      Pray that the gunclub hasn't got a membership stop. Most of them do.
#3      Join the club and stay with them for a year.
#4      After this year buy a gun, any gun will do, even an "evil"(tm)
#       assault rifle or any calibre handgun. Full auto is a nono.
#       The owner of the gun (private person of gunshop) will have to write
#       an "Intention of Sale" and give this to you.
#5      You take this "Intention" to your gun club and ask one of the
#       board members to fill in a form WM3, certifying that you need
#       your own gun in order to improve your scoring in official matches,
#       and that you cannot improve anymore using the clubs guns.
#6      Take the "Intention" and the WM3 to the police, with proof of
#       identity, 2 passport photographs and HFl. 75,- (~$40,-).
#7      After two weeks (minimum) to 2 months (maximum) the police will
#       give you a licence for that particular gun, *if* they can't find
#       a reason to deny it to you. Reasons are a.o. criminal record and/or
#       mental problems backgrounds.
#8      Take the licence to the seller, show it to him/her, pay the gun and
#       take the gun back to the police within seven days of issuance of
#       the license. Show the gun to the police, so they can check if the 
make>       and the serial number of the gun are the same as the one on the 
licence.>9      Take the gun home and only take it with you to the range, 
via the >       shortest route, shoot it, and take it back home via the 
shortest route.>10     Wait another year before you purchase the next gun.
#11     You are now allowed to buy up to 5 guns, provided that the gun club
#       signs for every gun. If your club doesn't have a rifle range, you
#       don't get a rifle.
#12     Lots of other rules and regulations on how to keep the gun in your
#       house (unloaded, locked away in a decent location, gun and ammo
#       to be kept seperate etc.), how many times a year you have to shoot
#       to keep your licence (in Amsterdam a minimum of 13 times a year) etc.

#As you can see, even in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia it's a bit
#easier.
#Most people here don't have problem with it, though. Crime is not very
#high
#here, and shootouts still make the frontpage of the national papers. The
#Dutch
stuff deleted

Kees
The same is the case in Norway, except from the following:
2,10,11 is not active
3 - six months
4 you only need one of the board member to sign a paper that states you as an
*active member* during the last six months
- no limits on number of guns
- usually rifles are excepted.  One needs to take a *hunters certifficate* 
to be allowed to hunt, and if you have one, you will allmost automaticly 
get a licence on any hunting rifle or shotgun you like.
- after the first purchase, you don't need to shoot ever again, to keep your 
gun.