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From: polly@iastate.edu (Paula Puffer)
Subject: Re: Cat zones (was Re: fraidy cat
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:01:50 GMT

Leo likes to be stroked most anywhere.   But he doesn't care to have his 
tum stroked.    Sarafina likes her head an back scratched and if i pick
her up and do this, a lot of the time she'll tuck her head into the crook of 
my elbow.   

speaking of kitty antics 
there was aserious case of kitty thunder going on last night.   all thru 
the living room and kitchen   but the best part was when Sarri would charge
from the kitchen and into the living room and Leo would kind of hop to get 
out of her way.    Sarri is now not afraid to attack leo.  Poor leo was 
laying next to me on the bed and Sarri just walked up and jumped onto him
and started chewing on his neck and trying to wrestle with him.  it was 
awfully cute considering Sarafina is about 1/3 the size of leo.  

he he i love cats they are so funny 

paula 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: update...
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:34:48 GMT

From the Las Cruces Sun News, Oct 6, 1992

	A tiny kitten blinded by children about 10 days ago will meet
her new owner this afternoon.
	Mary Gutierrez, office manager of a local veternian's office
where the kitty was cared for last week, said Bonnie Roth is scheduled
to pick  up the 6-8 week old domestic longhair
this afternoon. 
	Roth was selected over more than 40 others who offered
to give the kitten a good home partly becasue she also is disabled and
will therefore have the time veterinarians feel the blind kitten
needs. 
	Gutierrez said calls started pouring in after an article about
the kitten appeared on the front page of the paper. The office
received about 45 calls, she said. 
	"People also brought food and other
things for the kitten," said Gutierrez. "We could have had plenty of
good homes for her; there are a lot of good people out there." She
said the staff has been calling the kitten "Babycakes", but the name
may change. In reference to the kitten , "She is doing fine now, and
startgin to become accustimoed to people and to kindness, but she's
going to need alot of loving care, and we feel she can get that with
Bonnie."	
	The kitten was brought to the vet's office by Carmen Torres, a
Las Cruces Public Schools snack bar operator who saw three or four
children poking the animal's eyes out in the Lucero Avenue-Manzanita
Street area. Torres tried to nurse the kitten back to health but took
it to the vet after an infection set in.
	The vet removed the damaged eyeballs and sewed the kitten's
sockets shut. 
	City Animal Control Officer Shirley Wiegel, who is out of the
office this week, plans to talk with Washington Elementary School
students when she returns next week.



Susan
From: ballt@ucs.orst.edu (Teresa Ball)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: A Funny Incident
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:52:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw4Ew7.EpL
Distribution: na
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU

I hope you will excuse this long (first) post, but I just had to tell
everyone about a snicker I had last night.

A little set up for the story:
I have four cats, Tuffy, Evenrude, Syd and Bear (a black cat).  My 
neighbor also has several cats, including one black cat, Blacky.  

Last night, shortly after I got home from work, I heard Tuffy (who has
appointed herself the house and yard protector from non-family cats) was
hissing and spitting and wapping the kitchen window.  I figured there
must be something on the other side which was really upsetting her; so
I lifted the curtain to see what it was.  On the other side was a black
cat, just looking at Tuffy.  When I looked closer, it was our own Bear.

I guess Tuffy couldn't tell the difference between one black cat and
another.  Bear Could not fiqure out what she had done, all she wanted
was to come in the house.  Tuffy wasn't having THAT black cat near her.
(Normally, Tuffy and Bear are the best of friends).  But I guess that 
when Tuffy can't smell the other cat, it can't be Bear.

Terry Ball
(who's still snickering)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:31:14 EDT
From: <TMH1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Head butting (was Why Do Cats Lick Humans?)
Distribution: na
 <1992Oct2.191409.3425@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
 <1992Oct5.200940.21704@ncar.ucar.edu> <1992Oct07.215701.661466@locus.com>

I'm glad someone brought up head butting.  If I get down on my hands and
knees, my cat Cassidy likes to come running over and butt his head right
into mine.  Sometimes I can get him to do this three or four times in a row.
His sister, Sundance, has no interest in such rituals.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: steveg@teal.csn.org (Steve Genoff)
Subject: Cat zones (was Re: fraidy cat
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:03:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.182647.25543@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.193645.7352@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>>they'd *never* come around strangers.  Well, about 3 am, I was thoroughly
>>explored and purred at...  The vet and her husband tell me that those cats
>>have been much more willing to try new people now that they found the first
>>stranger knew where cats need to be scratched...
>>
>>Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
>
>
>If you have some trade secrets on where cats need to be scratched,
>let'em out of the bag...

  I don't know about *need* to be scratched, but I know where mine like
to be stroked ...
  Mileage will no doubt vary from cat to cat, but, my observations are
1) ears,
2) throat,
3) tailbone,
4) tummy,
5) top of head, between ears
6) shoulder blade area

well, gee just about anywhere ;-)  Maybe it depends on how gentle you are
more than anything else.


  STeve


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From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Taking a pet into Singapore.
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:33:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1b9l13INNiul
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Hey!
 
If you can e-mail from Singapore, will you let us know if you
spot any of the famous Singapore "drain cats"?  They are so
named because they are supposed to be very small.  Enough to
slip down the bath tub drain.
 
*****j*****
-- 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: I got him to purr!
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:23:21 GMT


I got my cat to purr at the vet today!
I was more than amazed!
Let me tell you the story...
I always let my cats out in the morning while I do my primping and
today, from the bathroom I heard cat screeching and immediately
knew...
CAT FIGHT!!!
So, of course I rush out with my hair all funny and half of my makeup
on calling for "fuzzy" and then I see him chase this other cat till he
goes up a tree. I kept calling him until he came in and he was sooo
dirty! He was all muddy and scruffy looking so of course I went to get
a towel to clean him up a bit. When I get to him, lo and behold but
what do I find embedded in his side? A catcus! Not just one or two
spines, but a whole cactus..er ... leaf (?) a prickely pear 'leaf' had
broken off and was matted into his fur! My sister and I tried to pin
him down while I cut of part of it but he squealed and clawed and
strggled so we let him go for a few minutes. It was so sad to see him
try to bite this thing off his side and get his little nose stabbed by
this cactus. After trying unsuccessfully to get it off we took him to
the vet. Well, after the cactus, and the car ride, and getting his
temperature taken and weighed and poked and prodded, it was safe to
say that he was a but upset :-)
So, as we sat in the exam room waiting for the vet I decided to try to
clean him up a little so I go a paper towel and got it damp and
started rubbing his head and nose and his little paws. I guess that
the paper towel was rough enough to feel like a cats tongue so he felt
like he was being cleaned by another kitty, and he PURRED!!! sitting
on the cold vets table after getting a thermomoter stuck you know
where and still with a cactus in his side..he purred! I was so amazed
and felt so good that I could make my kitty feel safe enuf to
purr in the vets office. 
ANyway, to make a long story longer...
:)
The vet came in and just pulled the cactus out, no struggles, and sent
us on our way free of charge :)
happy endings abound!

Susan

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: "angela allen" <angie@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Invisible fences...what are they?
Keywords: yes-works for cats
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:48:18 -0500

gittel@nynexst.com (Kathleen Gittel) writes:
>They trained themselves--cats loathe
>pain and are real smart about avoiding it.  

It seems to me that they would be smart enough to realize that by
climbing a tree, they get themselves out of the proximity field of the
wire, and get out while avoiding the shock. Of course, then they can't
get back in, but that's your problem, not theirs 8-). 

Is there some mechanism for avoiding this? Also, does it give the tone
and THEN the shock if there is no movement, or does it give them
simultaneously? The first would seem more humane to me.

--angie			angie@cs.indiana.edu
& John (hubby)
& Cerebus (buddy)
& Jaka (sweetie)
From: cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:48:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Head butting (was Why Do Cats Lick Humans?)
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

Its a fun game as long as you're awake.  Spot has carried it one step further
though, and thinks that its funny to watch me twitch my nose if she butts her
head into my face while I'm sleeping.  Seems like she sleeps 23 1/2 hours out
of the day, but for that other 1/2 hour, usually somewhere between 2 and 3 A.M.,
she gets REALLY friendly.  She'll rub her face on mine, walk around on me, 
purrrrrrr, bat at my face, and eat my hair.  I'm learning to put up with it,
but I sure wish she'd wait until I was already awake.  The other cat, Steve,
won't do any of this stuff, at least while I'm sleeping.  I hope your cat 
doesn't figure out how much fun it can be while you're asleep!

Colleen

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rob@apache (Rob Jarman)
Subject: Re: Help needed to save cat's life
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:15:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.172341.14957@epas.toronto.edu> dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow) writes:
>
>It sounds to me like you need to dump your girlfriend and find one
>that has more patience with scared, traumatized, and possibly sick
>animals and less concern about cleaning up a little cat poop. Does she
>want children? What does she think years of diapers will be like? I
>think that the cat needs a trip to the vet to see if he/she has FUS or
>another medical problem which needs attention. If you drop her in the
>woods she will die a slow, painful death or be killed savagely by
>another, bigger predator. If you can't handle her, at least take her
>to a Humande Society where the cat might have a chance of finding
>another home.
>
   She has kids. One of the reasons she wants to get rid of the cat is
because she's afraid her kids are going to get sick since the cat is
pooping on the bathroom floor. Her daughter is sick now and it seems to be
pretty serious. I think she's over reacted because of that.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: 6845400@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Mom cat eats newborns
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:58:30 GMT

Many years ago we had a siamese that basically did the same thing, the babies w
were there when we went to bed and the onlything left in the morning was
the top of one skull.  Well needless to say we were horrified and took the cat
to the vet, the only thing the vet could say was that in some cases if the
mother cat is very young, or was taken away from its own mother too soon, it
could exhit this kind of aberrant behavior.


Kathy
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Why do some mother cats eat their newborns?
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:06:51 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: kjc7435@ultb

Several years ago, I helped a young mother cat deliver several newborn
kittens.  It was a normal labor and the mother came through quite well.
However, I had to look away for a minute when the phone rang, and when I
got back to her, the kittens were gone!!  She had EATEN them!!

I've wondered for years after this heartbreaking episode...WHY do cats
do this?  Anyone else had this happen?

Please send e-mail (replies) to: "kjc7435@ritvax.isc.rit.edu".

Thanks...

K. Cater.
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Phone hating cat
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:41:03 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <4erKyjG00WBM01ZvFY@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
> My cat Mac hates when the phone rings.  Luckily our one phone is on the
> wall.  The upstairs phone has to be hidden in a drawer when we leave or
> it is ALWAYS off the hook.  I even turned the ringer off but when the
> downstairs phone rings I suppose he thinks that the other phone will  
ring
> so he still knocks it off the hook.  I guess I could close the bedroom
> door (which I did once) and he ripped my roll of paper towels to shreds.
> I guess he was a bit mad that I stopped him from sleeping on HIS warm
> waterbed.  Does anyone else have a cat that does this to phones?
> 
> Jean, two daughters, Strawberry (horse), Mac (cat), Fred (fish)

Your cat doesn't hate the phone, he is just answering it for you. ;<)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Re: Declawing older cats - long, of course ;-)
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:44:38 GMT

In article <91980004@otter.hpl.hp.com> adw@otter.hpl.hp.com (Dave Wells) writes:
> I guess pro-declawers must believe either
>
>i) It isn't actually mutilation or
>ii) That mutilating a cat for one's own convenience is OK or
>iii) That declawing benefits the cat in some way or
>iv) Something else...?
>I await enlightenment.


Well, I had never even heard of declawing when I had Abigail done 16
years ago.  I was going to have her spayed, and my vet strongly
encouraged me to have her declawed at the same time.  I was living in
Omaha at the time, on my way west, and he said that "everyone did it."
Now that I look back and remember all of those incredibly large and
obviously high-priced homes in West Omaha, I'm not surprised.  No
doubt they all wanted to save their rugs and furniture.  Anyway, he
kept pushing the operation until I finally agreed.  It has worked out
well (Abigail was a housecat until age 13 and is still too much of a
fraidy-cat to even venture off the landing, which has more to do with
her temperament than her lack of claws), but I wouldn't do it again.
My young cat (Zarabeth) has claws, and they get along well together.



--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
From: tap@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Thomas A. Pfannkoch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cat peeing on furniture
Keywords: How to stop?
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:20:02 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

We've got a nice indoor cat who is about 1.5 years old, and she's been
litter trained and we've never had a problem with her, except that she
occasionally would do "Number 2" on the carpet next to her litter box
if it was badly in need of cleaning.  But lately, the cat has been peeing
in places other than her litter box -- in the middle of our bed, our couch,
and my daughter's bed.  The cat is a fixed female, and she has just been
treated for a urinary infection for the last 2 weeks.  I was the first to
notice the symptoms -- she was leaving a tiny urine spot wherever she sat,
and she "looked" as if she was trying to pee.  This behavior stopped a few
days after she was on her antibiotic, but now she has taken to wetting in
large quantities in unacceptable places.

Nothing, petwise, has changed in our house recently -- we have another cat,
but that one never comes inside, and we have an Old English Sheepdog, with
whom the cat has a relationship of mutual respect.

The question is: how do we get the cat to stop peeing everywhere?  I mean,
other than a bullet to her head (which would of course work, but is *not*
an option).

Please reply directly to me (tap@physics.rutgers.edu) since I almost never
read this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance!
-- 
     Tom Pfannkoch
     email: tap@ruhets.rutgers.edu
     Voice: (908) 932-4341
     FAX: (908) 932-4343
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mkfeil@bcrki9.bnr.ca (Max Feil)
Subject: More on "drumming" 
Reply-To: mkfeil@bcrki9.bnr.ca (Max Feil)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:02:43 GMT

I want to thank whoever brought up drumming your cat about a month ago. My
female Himalayan "Hershey" just loves it. It has made a real difference in
her behaviour. At a time when she was totally stressed out (even months
after) the introduction of our new Persian male kitten "Oreo", the drumming
has turned Hershey back into the cat we love. She just can't get enough of
it, and comes around more often than ever. 

As far as why drumming has an effect (even when done lightly with the
fingers), I think it's a sexual thing and simulates what the male does
when he wants to mount the female. In any case, Hershey does raise herself
looking like she's getting ready for you-know-what. She tends to bite and
meow at me as well, but always with a massive purr in her throat.

Great Stuff!

Max

P.S. For anybody following the Oreo neutering (his testicles had not dropped),
     we had the operation done about 4 weeks ago when he was a bit over 7
     months old. They had to make 2 big incisions since one testicle was up,
     and the other one was way up! He came through it with flying colours,
     however.
--
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P.O Box 3511 Station C, |
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Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:12096 rec.gardens:7347
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Herbal repellants?
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:38:42 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <4866@n7kbt.rain.com>, john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) writes:
> In article <keqNBwW00VQk857Wtf@andrew.cmu.edu> tg0r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Terilyn Gillespie) writes:
>>
>>I'd be particularly interested if someone knows of an herb I could grow
>>to keep [cats] away [from plants].
> 
> Cats supposedly abhor the scent of rue.  In one of his cat books, Desmond
> Morris tells of an experiment he did with his cat and a sprig of rue.  It seems
> that, at least in that one experiment, rue does, indeed, repel cats.  I'm sorry
> that I can't give a more complete attribution, but most of my books are still
> packed from my big move this summer.

I brought a piece of rue home to try on my cats.  Dumdum peed on it, then
tried to bury it.  I don't think that's exactly the effect that was hoped
for...;-)

Kay
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: smhawkin@quads.uchicago.edu (stephanie mia hawkins)
Subject: cat's eye -- verdict
Reply-To: smhawkin@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:47:40 GMT

as i concurred with the advice of the net, finnegan went to meet
his new vet this weekend.  the vet showed the proper admiration for
finn's personality and health, and proceeded to examine the eye. 
the verdict?  it's a minor infection, on its way to being cleared
up by the bacitracin.  (whew!).  the glow, he said, could easily 
have resulted from a dilated pupil.  

so finny and i are now content.  he shows his appreciation by demonstrating
his athletic ability -- by attempting to rip my just-finished quilt down
from the wall.  ok, i agree -- this kitty is healthy :-)  


p.s.  let me put in another word on the virtues of the plastic eyedropper
here, just so i don't cost the net more hundreds-if-not-thousands-of-
dollars later.  the eyedropper is perfectly carriable for all you out
there with retrieving kitties (if not, you may be surprised what an
eyedropper will bring out in your cat!).  it spins in a lovely, unpredictable
way.  it bounces quietly enough that it won't disturb the people in
the downstairs apartment.  it's cheap -- and if kitty doesn't like it,
it may come in use around the house.  finally, it has the recommendation
of all three of the rexes in my family.  what more could a kitty ask for?

if anyone tries out this intriguing toy, let me know how it goes over!

stephanie
From: bonnie@rat2.njit.edu (Bonnie MacKellar)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: is this flea spray toxic?
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:52:18 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I have been using aproduct called Ovitrol on my cat
to prevent  fleas.  This is on the advice of my vet.
The product contains Methoprene and pyrethrins,
and some other stuff I don't recognize.
The directions say it is approved for use on cats.
The directions also say to rub the stuff thouroughly
into the animals coat, which I do.
The problem is, my cat becomes extremely lethargic and
out of it for a day or more after application.
Am I doing something toxic to my cat?  She is already
known to be extremely senstive to Carbaryl  (foams at the
mouth and twitches) so I can't use that.

                                 Bonnie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: Head butting (was Why Do Cats Lick Humans?)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:19:19 GMT

In article <44030002@hpspkla.spk.hp.com>, cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell) writes:
> she gets REALLY friendly.  She'll rub her face on mine, walk around on me, 
> purrrrrrr, bat at my face, and eat my hair.  I'm learning to put up with it,
> but I sure wish she'd wait until I was already awake.  The other cat, Steve,
> won't do any of this stuff, at least while I'm sleeping.  I hope your cat 
> doesn't figure out how much fun it can be while you're asleep!
> 
> Colleen
> 

Ours already figured this out!!  He only tries to burrow into my husband's
hair though, not mine...

gayle

E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
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