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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: the NAM
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:30:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxxIB7.2uu
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Since we've been ghettoized over in xbooks, I figured this poster probably
would find a more appreciative audience over here in racm:

In article <1echufINNlgb@male.EBay.Sun.COM> 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie
Maycon) writes:
>Does any one out there read "the NAM"  my very first issue #71 I read it and
>got hooked. the stories are pretty real with different names during the
>Vietnam
>War, ever since that day I bought back issues. How many people out there read 
>the NAM?.  I find that the stories are more realistic than other comics such
>as Superman and those other comics. I do not believe in buying comics and not
>reading them.  
>
>
>
>
>To whom it may concern take your dishes down and feed the dogs.

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Re: For those that are sick of the Legion of net.heroes
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:20:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.142417.12263@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>     Here's a clue for those that really can't bear to have to hit 'n' on an 
>LNH post that sneaks past your killfile:  subscribe to aclnh, put it ahead of 
>racm, then hit the key that marks averything as read each time.  Anything 
>crossposted is simultaneously marked as read in all crossposted newsgroups.

  Equivalently, assuming a reasonably flexible killfile, you can kill
anything with "alt.comics.lnh" in the header.  In rn:

/alt.comics.lnh/h:j

(the "h" flag means to search the whole header, not just the subject
line.)

I think the people complaining about the volume of non-LNH:-tagged lnh
posts would probably be fairly satisfied with this solution.

(Yes, I know that some newsreaders can only kill based on the subject
line.  Oh well.)

--
Jonathan Lennox
jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cornwall@bach.udel.edu (Ray J Cornwall)
Subject: Re: Ramblings and Rumors
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:49:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.213520.28041@rtsg.mot.com> chrstnss@rtsg.mot.com (Steve Christianson) writes:
>Other random news:
>Upcoming 1993 events include
>	the return of the Transformers as a regular comic
>	Marvel will publish Venom as a series of limited series
>	  (whateverthehellthatmeans)
>	the Marvel GI Joe comics will be heavily advertised on TV again 
>
So Hasbro and Marvel are back together again...with Byrne throwing the
U.S.1 character in She-Hulk, maybe a Hasbro reunion? :) 
I assume the Venom stuff will be similar to what DC is doing to
Lobo, which isn't a bad idea. Take a bad-ass character, and give him
way-cool (fanboy lingo, not mine :) )mini-series. Lots of first
issues, and most people who buy one issue of a MS will buy the rest
(look at the Robin 3000 thread...)
Ray
U of D
"My name is Ray
 And I am funky
 My name is Ray
 The one and only"
From: c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Spider-Man.  The poor fellow is having problems
Date: 21 Nov 1992 09:56:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3f.berkeley.edu


  The Spider-Man (no prefix) book, has moved back in forth between good
artists/writers and bad ones.  Right now with the Return to the Mad Dog
Ward, it's turning good again.  Makes me kind of sad that I had to drop
the other spidey books (at least until this spider slayer shit is gone
and that hobgoblin thing too).  It's nice to see Spidey helping out this
patient he met when he was in the ward, and try to show him some of the
ropes to becoming a super hero.  Unfortunately, since the writer is gonna
change next arc, most likely it will discontinue (after this is a spidey-
punisher "extravaganza" as the editor put it).  
  Things I like so far:  The story has been moving along really well. Nice
pacing.  The art is solid.  The last arc ("something about a gun") had
decent writing and art, but I really could deal with this for a while.
Ann Nocenti has Peter wondering if he is a cronic liar.  With the amount
of lying he does constantly to cover up his super ID, this is pretty funny.
The new reporter he is teamed up with is one of the few characters I've
seen who listens to Peter's crap and thinks, "okay Peter, you go ahead and
live in your little world, while the rest of us on Earth share this one."
Also Mary Jane is questioning her role as an actress.  Should she just
play her part, be it a sleazy blonde or dumb bimbo, and go on to the next
one, or should she make an effort to provide quality role models to all
of her fans and viewers.  This is one of the best stories I have read in
a while.  Other arcs, like the Revenge of the Sinister Six, are good too
but I'm becoming less and less interested in the all out slugfest type
stories.  Of course that doesn't mean that I now lean toward the completely
mental, I have to be a tenured professor at Harvard to understand what
significance so-and-so saying this-vague-phrase-from-ancient-literature means,
and now I will have to research for a week to fully understand comic. *whew*
Talk to you later.

Mikel B.  (and if I start buying more DC, maybe El Kim, so I can get my letters
           printed) :)

-- 
Welcome to the punchline .sig
   "Is it in?"	 "That's my belly button, how do you like my tie?"
   "So he takes his bowling ball and throws it in the sink!"
   "It's 10:00 do you know what time it is?"  "29... 29... 29..."
From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman 75 (no spoilers)
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:10:36 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Incidentally, it was strange to see that 2 out of 3 comic shops here
>had SOLD OUT of the newsstand version -- the remaining store was
>limiting them to 1 copy per person, whereas the bagged copies were
>in abundance with no limit whatsoever.
>
>Has anyone else noticed this in other areas?
>
>Greg

    In my area (Allentown/Bethlehem PA), everything was pretty much gone.  If
you didn't reserve anything, you didn't get it.  There are possible shipments
coming in tomorrow, but I'm not too upbeat about snagging a copy.

    If I can't find a reading copy, I'm gonna rip open this bagged one soon.
I'm hesitant, 'cause I'm expecting very little in terms of story and art and
if I can get some $ I'll gladly rid myself of this garbage.  Are the extra
items cool enough to open this thing?  Or should I just rid myself of this
crap.

    R.I.P.  Superman



-- 

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| You wanted the best;  You got the best! |     Paul Stanley, 1977
-------------------------------------------
Cedrick  Chan,  a lost demented soul
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Subject: Re: DC: Supes death -- price gouging
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:02:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <By132C.G8G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston) writes:
>
>By closing time, one of the local shops was apparently charging
>$25 for the Supes death issue.  This was on Thursday, the same
>day the book hit the shelves.  I'd love to see a mob of angry
>parents descend on the place, demanding refunds for all the
>little would-be speculators who are taken in by such nonsense.

I just posted another message about how a shop in Santa Barbara 
was selling its copies for $10 today (Friday, 11/20). Interestingly
enough, the store's sister shop in Goleta had at least one box of 
the bagged issues left and was selling them at cover. Sheesh.
-- 
John Switzer               | "Lobbyists are circling Clinton like slugs
                           | around a saucer of beer."
CompuServe: 74076,1250     | -- Alexander Cockburn, LA Times 11/15/92
Internet: jrs@netcom.com   | (P.S. Impeach Clinton, support the coup!)
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: Bernie Wrightson
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:31:17 GMT

pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes:
> >could someone please tell me if the man,the master, Berni Wrightson is doing
> >anything in the near future.  I have an appetite for his work and this
> >craving must be slaked.  I would also like to know if anyone knows where I
> >could order any of Wrightson's "House of Mystery" or "House of Secrets" work
> >from.
> 
> You speak of a god.

No argument there....

> Wrightson is one of the greatest talents ever to grace the comic page.  I,
> too, look forward to his next project.  Although, I hope it isn't in the
> Punisher POV or Cult vein.  I wish him to go back to his horror
> roots.

Well, sort of.  Wrightson's next project is from Tundra, and it
features his Sci-Fi creation Captain Stern.  Funny stuff, lots of
Zombies.  If you order the latest Tundra Catalogue, there's an 8 page
preivew inside.  Worth the stamp price, I assure you.  8 pages of
beautiful Wrightson black and white.  
  On the bad side, the coloring on the series will be by the same
colorist from the Cult (BLEH!)


>  A new retrospective on Bernie Wrightson has recently been released
> in softcover, and I found it very interesting.  It contains many
> covers and pages from various projects throughout his career.

Um, I assume you're talking about A Look Back?  Yes, the book is
essential for Wrightson fans, but no it is not a NEW retrospective.
Rather it is a re-release of a limited edition that was published in
about 1980.  This means that the book only contains Wrightson material
up until 1979 or so, which is a pity.

> His House of Mystery and House of Secrets material is great,but I don't think
> he did a whole lot of interiors for those books.

In the early days he did.  Check out the issues back around 1969-1971
and there are sprinkling aplenty of Wrightson's work.  Besides, you
usually find House of Mystry stuff in the quarter bin, and I'd pay a
quarter any day for a Wrightson cover, and much more....
 
>  I have many issues with covers by him, though.  His Swamp Thing is
> incredible.  Ponder that: Wrightson, Moore, Bissette and Totleben
> have all done Swamp Thing.  Is that in the realm of possibility?

Isn't it great?
Wrightson penciled a new Swamp Thing book a few years ago for a new
prestige book with Len Wein.  It was never completed.  I'd love to see
the pencils, which I know were completed for the first issue at least.
 
> When I met Wrightson in person, I nearly bowed to his aura of omnipotence.

Oh, and when was this, pray tell?

I sort of felt the same way when I met Bisette, but he had a pot-belly
and it kind of ruined the god-aura.  Nice guy, tho...

-- 
This is my sig file.
From: Damian.Cugley@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Damian Cugley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: PLEASE put comic titles in the subject line (Re: who is Her?)
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:06:49 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, Oxford University, UK
In-reply-to: zombie@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM's message of 15 Nov 92 04:32:24 GMT

Most articles in rac.misc are of interest only to readers of specific
comics.  Some of us would like to be able to weed out automatically
articles that are uninteresting to us.

This is not helped by people who post articles with subject lines which
only make sense if you have just read the latest issue of whatever comic
it is.  Instead I have to have a giant kill file full of the names of
all the new characters churned out by the X-books, and the names of all
the new money-spinning cross-over series and so on and so forth.
Am I now expected to add "her" to the list??

There is a convention for prefixing subject lines with keywords that can
be used in KILL files.  Please consider using this.  

I would like to suggest another convention in a similar style.  Start
each subject line with the imprint (usually publisher) *AND* comic
title.  Examples:

	Re:  Vertigo: Sandman:  is 1+1 = 2?
	Re:  Marvel: X-Men, X-Force:  Is Splatterbang really dead?
	Epic: A1:  Isn't Igor Goldkind former editor of 2000AD?
	Marvel: Punisher:  Just an excuse or what?
	
Where a publisher has N comics about one character, you might use the
characters name as a generic title for the lot.  Ditto for cross-overs:

	DC: Superman: Is he really gonna bite the bucket?
	Marvel: Spider-man: Whatever happened to Scorpion?
	Re: Eclipse: Total Eclipse: Does Marv Wolfman suck or what?

If it relates to the "X Universe" where X is some publisher, or to the
publishing company itself, just use the publisher label on its own.

	DC:  Where is Gotham City?
	Re: Valiant: Shooter guns down office-mates
	
We could then all happily concentrate on reading only articles on comics
we like to read.  Wouldn't this be neat?

Damian
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: New Titans #93
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:44:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.205126.1092@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>I enjoyed this.  I don't think the concept has enough depth to hold
>up for many issues, but a couple of months of Teeny Titans mania --
>and, incidentally, of the Titans talking to each other instead of
>getting into pointless brawls -- should be fun.
>
>	The TEENY TITANS --  1ST Double-Bagged Hologram
>	Overpriced Collector's Issue! -- 2.5 pages of
>	All-Toon action with the Super-Toons you demanded. ($1.75)
Heh.  I haven't seen this issue yet but it looks like fun.
All I've seen so far is the Titans $ell Out! special.  Really fun read,
especially the Teeny Titans.  Can't wait for Batman's reaction... (Ittybats,
Dick?)  I also loved Gar's little comments about the pictures he took.  If
Marv keeps this up I won't be dropping the Titans any time soon.

August Paul Yang hopes to see a Zoo Crew cameo on the Teeny Titans.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Gaiman & Cooper
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:22:52 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620


 ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:
 
>     Has anyone read the latest Previews?  Its got a pretty decent interview
> with Neil.  It also mentions him working on a concept album with Alice Cooper.
> I think this could be really neat, being that 'Alice Cooper is a comic book
> character already'.

Neil Gaiman devised the concept for AC's next album, and co-wrote the lyrics,
according to the last info I had from him on his many, many deadlines.

Tanaqui
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman is in the bag... sort of
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:25:45 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I bought the collectors poly bagged version of Superman #75 yesterday. 
The back
cover is warped where the bag was sealed. Ugh! I thought poly bagging was
supposed to protect the comic, not damage it!
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: lazarus@maico.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner #3
Date: 20 Nov 1992 23:49:50 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: maico.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1992Nov19.200803.2446@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, breitzsp@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>  Since when does a comic need to have words to covey a story?  Did you need
>Guy to say something cocky to see that is was being cocky?  Did you need him
>to say oops when he made a mistake?  For the base emotions shown by  Guy in 
>this story I didn't need words to see and feel what was going on.

Agreed.  Consider, Joe Staton's doing a WONderful job with the body language
and facial expression here... something that Rob Liefeld (or any other of the
boy wonders gracing Image) can't handle with his repetoire of only four 
facial expressions tops (the pout, the shit-eating grin, etc...).  

>Scotty B

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
'Cats - Hell, I can't remember the score.  They just lost to Mizzou.  *sigh*
"I've got the motive which is money, and I've got the body which is DEAD."
	-- In the Heat of the Night
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:53:13 EST
From: <JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman Revival Methods
Distribution: usa
 <By1IrE.30A@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Nov21.040220.8938@news2.cis.umn.edu>
 <1992Nov23.225904.15948@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>

BLoodwynd is a "mysterious" character that appeared and immediately joined
the JLA after its newest reincarnation.  No one knows his background and he
is supposedly very powerful.  For the last few months DC has been leading us
on about who he really is.  All indication lead to the Martain Manhunter
because he left the leauge right before Bloodwynd's first appearance.  But
DC blundered and gave away the fact that it was the MM in one of the latest
quarterly by having someone address him as J'onn.  So as in Armagednon 2001,
it could be anybody because DC wants to make you guess.  I hope its MM
because I miss him and his humor.  On a final note - Blue Beetle knows BW's
secret identity but is presently ina coma due to Doomsday.

Joe C.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: byron@netcom.com (Byron C. Go)
Subject: The Sales are NOT What They Seem (was Re: He's Dead...Wrapped In Plastic)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:30:03 GMT

In article <1ee01gINN5th@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:

>Anyway...  The story I bought it at had sold over 200 issues in an hour,
>even with limited numbers allowed per person...

I went to three stores today.  None of them received more than thirty copies
(or so they claim) and all of them were sold out of what they had received.
Kind of makes you wonder if they're telling the truth, and if so, what the
distributors are trying to pull.

     byron  (:

p.s.  I finally found a newsstand copy; I think the cover is much cooler than
the "computer generated" cover anyway.  Besides, wearing the armband too
tight could cut off circulation, necessitating amputation and turning me
into a one-armed man.


-- 
byron c go		byron@netcom.com	byron@wet.COM
"I knew it would be in the last place I looked, so I looked there first."
						Delirium of the Endless
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From: vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams)
Subject: Re: Grade Report: Batman: The Blue, The Gray, And The Bat
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:48:53 GMT

In <rawdon.722324416@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

Spoilers for the DC comics "Batman: The Blue, The Gray, And The Bat"...

>Ugh, this was lame.

Says you.

>Which is quite a disappointment since it's by three creators I respect a lot:
>Elliot S! Maggin, Alan Weiss and Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez.  However, their image
>of a freewheeling, grinning Batman working for Abraham Lincoln just doesn't
>click for me *at all*.  And their "Redbird" character as a replacement for
>Robin *really* doesn't work.

The "Redbird" character worked just fine, especially when you take into
account some of the history fo American Indians at the time--as in
"slaughter."

>Picture, if you will, Batman riding across the desert on a black horse.
>Batman's adventures taking place primarily at midnight.  Batman and a handful
>of others standing off dozens of armed soldiers with just pistols.  Batman
>meeting Samuel Clemens and Wild Bill Hickock.  Plus an Abraham Lincoln who (to
>my eyes) bears little resemblance to the genuine article.

Abraham Lincoln looked just fine for a man in the midst of a Civil War.

The writing and art reflected the period.  This isn't a hastily-contrived
pseudo-Victorian Gotham City; this is the Old West, with Batman used as a
cover for a mission that would otherwise jeopardize Bruce Wayne's cover.
This story fits in with my understanding of the Civil War and its
ramifications on territories not yet states.  And Alan Weiss' artwork is
ten times better than the Norm Breyfogle crap from _Holy Terror_.

At the very least, you should *really* try taking into consideration the US
mindset present before and during the Civil War.  This story fits that
mindset.

>Grade: D  (Just for the art)
My grade: B+ (it wasn't the same without a Batmobile)
>-- 
>Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
>University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

>An inferiority complex is when you realize that everyone has better problems
>than yours.
--

 _______________ Alan Williams | vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu _________________
 \/ "Now, Neddie, pull up a chair and sit down."                           \/
    "I'd prefer to stand, if you don't mind."
    "Oh, well, pull up a floor, then,"
                   --"Six Charlies in Search of an Author," _The Goon Show_
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From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Peter David sinks to new depths
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:14:08 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>OK PAD, you knew the Net would find out eventually...
>In 1993, DC comics will revive Aquaman (once again), only it will now be
>written by none other than our very own PETER DAVID!!!

    This is nice and all, but who's doing the art for this book?  Comics are
great and unique in that a great comic book is a book which has a chemistry or
marriage of prose and grahical images.  PAD may spin a great yarn for Aquaman,
but if the art is lacking you might as well cancel the book again.

-- 

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| You wanted the best;  You got the best! |     Paul Stanley, 1977
-------------------------------------------
Cedrick  Chan,  a lost demented soul
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From: djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young)
Subject: Protectors
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:06:46 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I
I have to say something about a good comic that some of you might be missing.
It is called the Protectors.  I have read issues 1,2,3 and I'm pretty impressed.
The artist is Thomas Derenick and the third is was beautifully drawn.  I think
the story is interesting.  The best thing about the Protectors is the R.A. Jones
 (I think that is the writer) is taking his time developing the characters.  I
mean Protectors #3 hasn't even produced the full team yet.  The other thing is
that Protectors is giving a lot of one shots to its characters. The  Arrow and
Ferret one shots were great.

I recommend this comic to every one.

the Mighty Joe Young