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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:59:38 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>What is known is that SciFi has promised not to edit material out of the
>episodes to make them fit a half-hour *exactly* time slot, since if you add
>six to eight minutes of commercials tto a 25 minute show you come over a 
>half-hour.  They are a cable station, and thus not need to worry quite so
>much about the broadcast standard of starting every single show exactly
>on the hour or the half-hour.  WTBS is a very good example, everything they
>show starts five minutes after the hour!

What I have heard is that the Sci-Fi channel will show the single
episodes of Doctor Who in one hour time slots.  25 minutes for the
episode, who knows how much for commercials, and the rest of the time
filled with various Doctor Who-type features (such as interviews, etc.)

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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Subject: The SCIFI CHANNEL
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 00:22:59 GMT


In a previous article, nmarsh@indyvax.iupui.edu (The Doctor) says:


If you happen to own a satellite dish I've been told that The Sci-Fi
Channel is already up and doing some testing on Galaxy 5, Channel 4.
I haven't been able to verify this yet personally since I dont have
a dish. If anyone has a satellite dish could they please check &
post something here if it's true.

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From: dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (Eric Dittman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sylvester McCoy in person in Dallas
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:15:29 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <-403786@nemesis>, uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes:
> 
> Surprise!  Instead of the programming originally scheduled for
> the Dr. Who Marathon, we had a treat.  Sylvester McCoy appeared in
> the Dallas studios of KERA 13 on Saturday, August 15th, and worked the
> pledge breaks from 7PM until 11:30. 

Sylvester McCoy was a treat.  Showing Time and the Rani wasn't.  I'd
rather have seen Revenge of the Cybermen as originally scheduled.

> Offering an opportunity to brunch with him the next morning ($275 for two),
> A personal call-back and talk to you (if time allowed at $120 level), the
> limited edition Sylvester McCoy T-shirt, and several other gifts were offered.
> He was great, but sadly, the pledging was lackluster.  I think they exceeded
> their evening goal but not by much.  There was no advance advertising for
> Sylvesters visit, or for the fact that "Tomb" was or, or that the shows
> would start three hours earlier than normal.

I think the lack of publicity was the real reason for lackluster pledging.
Everyone has either seen the episodes before, or has them on tape.  I've
taped all the episodes that PBS can show, so I don't watch Dr. Who on KERA
anymore.  The only reason I was watching August 15th was so I could
tape Tomb.  I still pledge every year, though, to show support for SF (DW,
B7, RD, etc.) on KERA.

> Sadly, KERA announced during breaks (proudly I might add) that they are
> pulling Dr. Who from its 8-year old time slot on Saturday at 10 or 10:30.
> Starting in October it will be on Sunday at 13:00.  Replacing it on Saturday
> will be The adventures of Robin Hood.

I think there will be more viewers at 1300 on Sunday than an irregular
start time Saturday night.  I'd rather be out doing something on a
Saturday night.  Sunday afternoons are lazy times.

> The Sunday timeslot is dreadful in the fall because it will be against many
> Dallas Cowboy football games that receive very good ratings normally.
> Our very own Coronation Street, if you will.

I think this really depends on how well the Cowboys are doing.

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From: bdavis@staccato.cray.com (Brent G Davis)
Subject: Re: ftp site
Organization: Cray Research Inc., Chippewa Falls, WI
Distribution: rec
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:35:39 CDT


In article <1992Aug20.752.11996@dosgate>, tony.villella@canrem.com (tony villella) writes:
> 
>   Is there an FTP site where I can access DR. Who stuff (ie. gifs,
> sound files, and text files) all pertaining to the show?

One ftp site for Dr. Who GIF files is grind.isca.uiowa.edu
under the directory /image/gif/doctor.who


Brent

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From: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: "TOMB" ON KERA 13 AUG
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:40:00 GMT
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Reply-To: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 

-> distressing fact came out and that is KERA is moving DW to Sunday
-> afternoons at 1pm. I am rather unhappy about this and plan on letting
-> the station know about
Watch out! That's how WLIW got rid of Doctor Who! They decided to move
it to Saturday at 11:30 PM! Then, before you knew it, a month later, it
was gone! Be careful of this! KERA might be doing the same thing!
    - Doug
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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Tomb and Shada from FOX
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:13:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network



Haven't been checking up for a few weeks, but both
Shas

"Shada" and "Tomb of the Cybermen" have been solicited by FOX in
the video store magazines for October I believe.

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:57:31 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:

>In article <John_Jacobs.03vc@lppl.mi.org> John_Jacobs@lppl.mi.org (John Jacobs) writes:
>>

>Let the doubts dematerialize about SciFi, they still are set to launch
>this Sept. 24th, little more than a month away now, and they will be
>showing Who every day.......

They may be launching Sept. 24, but we will be well into October at least
before my cable company begins to carry it (and they still aren't sure
if they are going to carry it...)  

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Chris Riff
riff@dartmouth.edu
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:17:45 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug18.034548.17377@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.175142.25098@Princeton.EDU> shari@room.Princeton.EDU (Shari L. Landes) writes:
>>In article <2168.130.uupcb@ssr.com> doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes)  writes:

>>>By the way... did you ever notice how the TARDIS slowly became a LOT
>>>more reliable

Well, the Doctor's been working on it for a long time.  The turning point
seemed to be when Graham Williams took over as producer, when Leela and
the Doctor use the TARDIS like a number nine bus in "Invisible Enemy".
They keep shuttling back and forth between Titan and the Foundation
asteroid.  One time Leela even flies the TARDIS without the Doctor's help.

True, there were problems in the nineteenth season (i.e. trying to get
Tegan back to Heathrow), but after about "The Five Doctors" and the new
TARDIS control room it all seemed to work fine.  There was even an amusing
scene in one of the "Missing Episodes" novels -- "The Ultimate Evil", I
think -- where the Doctor gets absolutely furious because he has
successfully repaired the TARDIS completely.  "What am I going to do now?
Hmm?"
From: nmarsh@indyvax.iupui.edu (The Doctor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:21:49 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <John_Jacobs.03vc@lppl.mi.org>, John_Jacobs@lppl.mi.org (John Jacobs) writes:
> But to even have Doctor Who showing in some parts would be great, even if
> there is a logo in the corner..

My only complaint about the logo in the corner is that I like to make music
videos and the stupid logo screws everything up! 

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:32:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Aug12.163230.29211
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <John_Jacobs.03vc@lppl.mi.org> John_Jacobs@lppl.mi.org (John Jacobs) writes:
>

Let the doubts dematerialize about SciFi, they still are set to launch
this Sept. 24th, little more than a month away now, and they will be
showing Who every day.......
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From: trump@iastate.edu (The Trumpster.)
Subject: Sci-Fi channel...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:42:44 GMT


I was at a friend's house today watching USA (some cheap old 'B' movie), and
in the middle, there was an odd looking commercial that I had trouble fiuring
out what it was for. Then I saw a brief glance at Patrick Troughton and I
realised it was for the SciFi channel. According to the commerical, it's coming
Sept 24, and to get it, you're supposed to call you local cable company and
ask for it.

Frank
From: rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: CYBERHISTORY (CONT'D)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:20:25 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

<<<<<<< Continued from previous message >>>>>>>
>cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.

I don't normally run around calling myself the Cyberleader.  So DON'T
don't screw with quoted text unless you clearly state that it's screwed
with, such as :

 <<DSY rantings deleted>>

OK?  That's why they call it QUOTED.  It's fine to insult my person,
my theories, and my various physical attributes (I invite abuse), but
DON'T ALTER ANY OF THEM.  And I DID notice the other little trick you
pulled with Tom Wilson, that is, "Doctor Makr 6" and "The Valeyard".
So STOP IT, DAVE.  You're getting up my left nostril and I'm sure
everyone else's.

Insults to be moved to Email, DW discussion to continue in r.a.dw

We now return you to your regularly scheduled banter.

Mike "Not the Cyberleader" Quintero ( rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us )
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From: rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: CYBERHISTORY         
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:31:58 CDT
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Ron O'Dell writes:
>In article <gate.Liu8oB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us
 (Michael Quintero) writes:
>>!                         /   ?2028 AD                      !            !
>>                           WHEEL IN SPACE ------------------/            !
>>!                        later cyberFaction                              !
>>                  2070 AD        !                                       !
>>!           /----- MOONBASE -----/               ?? -- Further Proliferation
>>            !   late cyberFaction                     new Cyber subspecies
>
>Problem here is that in Moonbase is it said, "There >were< Cybermen --
>every child knows that -- but they were destroyed ages ago."
>
>Forty years isn't an `age'.
>
Ok.  In the rest of your message (which I deleted for brevity) you said
that at the end of "Wheel in Space" it isn't thought that they were
destroyed.  It all works out then.  In Moonbase they must be referring
to MONDAS, since at end of Wheel they were not presumed dead.

One other theory, David Banks' conspiracy theory is that Earth's government
covered up both Wheel in Space and Moonbase as best it could.  Since Mondas
influenced such a large portion of the Earth, it couldn't have been
covered up.  As for the Invasion, the electronic circuits used to
control the population also blanked out their memory.

In either case, flip-flopping the two aren't really necessary.  As for
the script date, I'm afraid that I think that it doesn't really count.
It's like the novelisations.  They often have references that
contradict the televised story and other televised stories.  For
instance, the novelisation of the Tenth Planet has the Cybermen
coming from both Telos AND Mondas, as well as having it occur
in 2010 or so.

Also, Zoe (ref. the Mind Robber) has read a comic strip called Karkas
from the year 2000.

Mike Quintero ( rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us )

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From: teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Concerning the Return of Doctor Who
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:21:34 GMT
Organization: Institute of Education, University of London

In <39uHPB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:


>  At that time, I remind you that I was acting on my own accord!! If you want
>the original premise, it is the fact that BBC is literally dragging its feet
>concerning a decision regearding the show.  The dragging of feet has gotten me
>for one irritated.  If they are that indecisive, they might as well sell it to
>ITN of GB who might care for it more than they do.

Minor pedantic note : ITN will certainly NOT be making DW, cos they make
news programmes! ITV on the other hand might consider it :-)

Bitching aside, a more plausible possibility is to get the BBC2 drama dept.
to make DW. I may be wrong on this, but do they not handle their own 
(minority) programs separately from BBC1? BBC2 shows a much more receptive
attitude to SF in general, with recent repeats of DW, virtually solid STTNG
for the last couple of years, reshowing all(?) of ST:TOS this week, and of
course producing what I think is the only BBC SF series currently in prodn.,
Red Dwarf. My impression is that it is the controllers of the respective
channels who decide their content, and I would bet that the BBC2 controller
(name escapes me at the moment) would be pro-producing DW.

Does anyone know what the situation is?


Ian J Davenport   MULLARD SPACE SCIENCE LABORATORY   ijd@uk.ac.ucl.mssl
        
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From: kking@news.cs.uah.edu (Ken King)
Subject: Re: The Doctor changing his own history...
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Summary: more questions...
Reply-To: kking@uahcs2.UUCP (Ken King)
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - Univ. Alabama in Huntsville
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 02:07:43 GMT
Expires: 30 Aug 92

In article <BCR.92Aug20182820@hpl3sn02.cern.ch> bcr@cernapo (Bill Riemers) writes:
>I find it virtually impossable to coinside all the events
>with the Earth's history together... 
      [nifty stuff snuff'd]
>What is the problem with this idea that has been bugging
>me?  It is the obvious and detailed plans that the 
>Doctor must have made as William Hartnell still existing
>unmodified when he gets around to pulling them off as
>Sylvester McCoy.  You would expect he would at least
>find a few cases of "That isn't quite the way I remember
>leaving things..."
>
>Anyone have ideas on how I can make this idea fit better,
>or why I should trash it?
>
i think that you have a good idea.  other than the slew of
~consistency~ errors from the _rememberance_ episode, are there
any other "i certainly don't remember *THIS*!" type scenes?

later
kc
kking@cs.uah.edu
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Results from Quiz 5 and Now Quiz Part 6
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:26:32 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
> And now, Episode 6, purely on Doctor Mk 3:

>*8)  How did the Doctor escape from the Spiridon city?

Just wondering, why do some of the questions have an star in 
front of the number, such as the one above?
From: shari@room.Princeton.EDU (Shari L. Landes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Concerning the Return of Doctor Who
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:22:43 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <24864@castle.ed.ac.uk> eoghanni@castle.ed.ac.uk (Eoghann Irving) writes:
>In article <7g8DPB3w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>	Well if and when the show does come back, I think we can now
>rule out Sylvester appearing regularly. He is now officially a 'former'
>Doctor Who. I just hope they bring him back so that we can see a proper
>regeneration. This being the case I think it is unlikely that Sophie
>would be the companion either.

McCoy and Sophie said they go back to the show if they were asked, to do
a regeneration story (one where McCoy regenerates at the end, so he'd get
a full show) and a going-away story for Ace...  But who knows if the new
production company will do that... Sylvester and Sophie said they WOULD
do it if they were  asked.

>	Does it really matter if it is not them who come back. I mean,
>Tom Baker was my favourite Doctor, but I really enjoyed the Peter
>Davison episodes anyway. Also, there is no two Doctors a decade
>tradition. William Hartnell did 3 and a half years; Patrick Troughton
>did 2 and a half; John Pertwee 5 years; Tom Baker 7 years; Peter Davison
>3 years; Colin Baker 2 years; Sylvester McCoy 3 years.

Are years really thew question here?  Pertwee did 5 years, that's a
total of somewhere around 35 stories, about 150 episodes.  McCoy did
3 years of 14 seasons for 42 episodes.  McCoy did so few stories compared
to any of the others, except for C. Baker... JN-T seemed to want to get
the actors out ASAP.... one season after he became producer, T. Baker
decided he wanted out...

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: concerning....
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:10:37 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <199214.752.11879@dosgate> "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:
>-> No matter what else happens, JNT and Andrew Cartmel won't be back in
>-> their original posts.  JNT has finally found a steady job other than
>-> producing Doctor Who video specials, and Cartmel is also doing well
>-> on other series.
>->
>-> What would everyone think, however, of either Cartmel or
>-> Nathan-Turner writing (or in JNT's case) or directing the odd story
>-> now and then?
>
> I don't want to even think about them. However in JN-T's case, he
>should have resigned (or fired) from DW years before the last
>(can't/won't say final) season. Somewhere just before Mawdryn Undead.
>                                                                     :-/
>
>Regards,
>Dale Clayton
>------------------------
>dale.clayton@canrem.com

Does that mean you didn't like "The Caves of Androzani," "Enlightenment,"
"Resurrection, REvelation, and Remembrance of the Daleks," 
"The Curse of Fenric," "The Two Doctors, "The Five Doctors," "Planet of Fire,"
or "Frontios?"

JNT wanted to leave long before he actually did, and is on record as saying so,
but his BBC bosses promised him he'd never work again anywhere if he didn't
stay on the show, so he stayed as long as they told him to.
From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: dw stuff
Date: 23 Aug 92 11:05:59 EST
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Dave Shariff Yadallee wrote:

-> From the Prgramme Guides, under the heading of "The Mind Robber",
-> both editions,  Jean-Marc Lofficier writes "Meanwhile, Zoe finds the
-> true Master of the Land: a giant computer."  And upon watching Part 5
-> of The Mind Robber, this is confirmed.

 Who programmed that computer anyway?

 Can't say I know the answer. But, I don't take his programme guide as
canon, either.

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: keeper@deeptht.armory.com (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: CYBERHISTORY
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:07:42 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <gate.Liu8oB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero) writes:
>!                         /   ?2028 AD                      !            !
>                           WHEEL IN SPACE ------------------/            !
>!                        later cyberFaction                              !
>                  2070 AD        !                                       !
>!           /----- MOONBASE -----/               ?? -- Further Proliferation  
>            !   late cyberFaction                     new Cyber subspecies

Problem here is that in Moonbase is it said, "There >were< Cybermen --
every child knows that -- but they were destroyed ages ago."

Forty years isn't an `age'.

My references (which are based on television scripts and not novelisations)
list the year in which Wheel in Space takes place as 1990.

So, if you swap those, it's not so bad ... except it isn't thought at the
end of Wheel in Space that the Cybermen were `destroyed' like the moonbase
commander says in The Moonbase (obviously, he's referring to the 1986
invasion (since that was the other story written at the time), which ended
with the destruction of Mondas).