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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dolphans (Was: Truth About Ring...)
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:45:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep23.181433.29631@PacBell.COM>-jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
In article <1992Sep23.162809.25420@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>  Wouldn't you think that when a team does lose the SB that the 
>>>players would be more likely to get a magnificent conference
>>>championship ring instead of the SB ring that says they lost?
>
>>Who cares?  Real men don't wear rings.  Real men wear the bones
>>of their enemies in their hair.
>
>OK wise GUY, name one Real man who wears the bones of their
>enemies in their hair.  Oh, the "Predator" does not count as a man,
>in case you were referring to "him". :-)
>
>>Larry Czonka is doing on-the-field interviews on American Gladiators,
>>by the way.  Is that cool or what?
>
>Hey, the man has to pay his rent doesn't he. What a wooze! 
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - 
  
 
When I first read your response to Gidi's article I thought to myself, "what a dweeb,
why is this guy calling people names so often"? Then after looking at your name for
a few seconds I came up with the most logical explanation I could think of. You were
probably the brunt of numerous playground tauntings as a kid with a boys first name
and a girls first name as a last name. I'll bet kids used to give you the middle name
"and" or called you by your last name exclusively. That's why you find that you have
to call other people names now right?

Anyway this forum is for people to have fun and talk about their teams, and even you
are allowed your opinion to be heard. But hey, how about you keep the name calling
to yourself. 

I usually find your articles to be relatively insightful but when you call somebody
a childish name it reduces your credibility.

Otherwise keep up the good work.


John T.
-- 
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If you take yourself too seriously, you'll be the only one who does.

..John "Dolphinatic" Turman...
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HE COULD GO ALL THE WAY!
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:16:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron

Silvester writes:
>Gloria writes:
>> 
>> Steve Young performed another CLASSIC run that made the
>> RAMS look like cheer leaders as Young cut, faked and
>> dragged a hapless defender into the end zone. Yes,
>> HE WENT ALL THE WAY!
>
>Never thought I'd see the day when John Gloria said something positive about
>Steve Young...:)

I missed this highlight from Sunday, but if its anything like the
51-yarder he had against the Vikes in '87(?) -- WOW!

That was THE MOST incredible run I've ever seen a QB make.  Cunningham,
Elway, Tarkenton, even Roger the Dodger (most revered of all), --- they 
couldn't touch this guy.  Young runs like a RB, and like a man possessed.  
(That's why he's on my FFL team!)


-- 
**************************************************************************
GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!	| Andy: "Howdy boys........."
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!    | Andy: "...Yer boys are mighty talkative today."
James Clyde  LSU '91    | Briscoe: "Yeh,...they's all keyed up."
From: lar0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (LUIS A. ROSARIO)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: POOL - Picks for Week #5 (NOTE WEIGHTS)
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:16:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep29.042239.22018@colorado.edu>, davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu
 (David Rex Wood) writes:
>Week 5
>------
>
>PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!
>
>Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
>subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
>your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
>word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
>questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
>still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
>"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
>send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.
>
>WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
>        Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
>        Assign  5 points to 3 different games.
>        You get 10 points for free since there are only 12 games.
>
>This form is due at 10 am PST (5 pm GMT) on Sunday, Oct 4.  NO EXCEPTIONS!
>
>DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!
>
> WT  Away                       Home
>*------------------------------------------------*
>[  ] [12 ] Indianapolis          [ ] Tampa Bay
>[  ] [ ] Chicago               [ ] Minnesota
>[  ] [ ] Green Bay             [ ] Atlanta
>[  ] [ ] New Orleans           [ ] Detroit
>[  ] [ ] Miami                 [ ] Buffalo
>[  ] [ ] LA Rams               [ ] San Francisco
>[  ] [ ] NY Giants             [ ] LA Raiders
>[  ] [ ] Washington            [ ] Phoenix
>[  ] [ ] Kansas City           [ ] Denver
>[  ] [ ] Seattle               [ ] San Diego
>[  ] [ ] New England           [ ] NY Jets
>[  ] [ ] Dallas                        [ ] Philadelphia
>
>Initials:
>
>DID YOU PUT YOUR INITIALS ON THE SAME LINE AS THE WORD INITIALS???  PLEASE DO!
>
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>David Rex Wood -- davewood@cs.colorado.edu -- University of Colorado at Boulder
>  BRONCOS!!        R.S.F.P. Internet Football Pool Organizer        BRONCOS!!
>                            Owner, Boulder Houlders
>
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From: rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Re: Miami-Buffalo-San Fran
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 20:28:23 GMT

In Article 31264, Dave Meeks writes ...
>Actually, pretty huge lead.  Buffalo not only has to hope for a Miami loss,
>they have to hope for 2 losses, or that they are the one that gives them
>one.

Sorry, wrong.

Buffalo beats Raiders... Buffalo 5-1
Miami loses .... Miami 4-1

Buffalo will be alone in first place.
--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: NFC Central QBs
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 29 SEP 92 12:30:01    

In article <BILLMS.92Sep29115717@quip.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes...

>In article <1992Sep29.150534.24117@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
>     6 Brett Favre         72    44   61.1    572   7.94    4  5.6    1  1.4  98.8
>Starting to believe.  I'm sure Sharpe is a very happy man.  Liked his nestee
>move at the end of the pittsburgh game (that was him standing deep behind
>favre, wasn't it john?)

I didn't see it but that nestee thing is a well known Sharpe maneuver 
so it was probably him.  They seem to be playing "Thank God I'm a 
Country Boy" a lot at Lambeau this year.  Coincidence?  I think not.
(For the uninitiated: Brett Favre's nickname is "Country".)

>     7 Rodney Peete        98    62   63.3    882   9.00    5  5.1    3  3.1  96.6
>Remember, this is the guy who supposedly put detroit in a weak spot for qbs

Sheesh!  Who said that.  I always thought he was very good.  I 
couldn't believe the Packers didn't draft him when Willie Peete was 
the backfield coach.  

>     8 V. Testaverde       88    56   63.6    803   9.12    4  4.5    3  3.4  94.1
>    10 Jim Harbaugh       127    79   62.2    950   7.48    6  4.7    3  2.4  91.0
>    14 Rich Gannon        118    69   58.5    831   7.04    8  6.8    5  4.2  85.1
>    18 Don Majkowski       55    38   69.1    271   4.93    2  3.6    2  3.6  77.2

>Four games into the season is about as early as I believe trends are worth
>talking about.  The "smash mouth"/"three yards and a cloud of dust" NFC
>Central has 40% of the top 10 qbs.  Kind of amazing.  And the worst rated
>passer is the guy with the biggest reputation comming into the season. 

I'm not sure what you mean.  Do you mean Majik had the biggest rep 
comming into the season?  I guess you could say that but I don't think 
he was that highly regarded.  More surprizing by far than Majkowski's 
low rating is how high everybody else is.

JGH
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Crowd Noise Rule
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 30 SEP 92 16:52:14    

In article <1992Sep30.180116.14523@Princeton.EDU>, hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes...

>In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.36.717853060@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!) writes:
>>In article <69368@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>>>From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
>>>Subject: Crowd Noise Rule
>>>Date: 29 Sep 92 19:27:52 GMT
>>
>>
>>Can someone give a brief description of the ruling on crowd noise...  When 
>>was the last time it was used? and on which team?  Is it a penalty? The 
>>domes are supposed to be the loudest because of the acoustics, correct?  
> 
>During the Raiders-Chiefs MNF, the raiders complained about the crowd
>noise and the referee announced that if there was further noise, the home
>team would be charged a time-out. I wonder if the noise results in yards
>if a team has no timeouts. 

They've never enforced this penalty, have they?  I'd think there'd be 
a near riot if the tried.

JGH
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From: zentner@picard.phil.uni-passau.de (Martin Zentner)
Subject:  Patriots vs. Jets  (Result ?)
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:14:41 GMT

Hello everybody,

I agree that the Dolphins-victory over the Bills is far more interesting  
than any other game, but even if noone seems to care:

Could someone please post or mail the result of the game between New  
England and the Jets ?


Thanks in advance


   Martin


_______________________________________________________________________
 Martin Zentner     
       zentner@picard.phil.uni-passau.de (NeXT-Mail welcome)
       "If you ask me, you have to take 42 as an answer."   
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Vikings on Monday Night
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:53:18 GMT

In article <20781@plains.NoDak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>Could any Viking fan tell me whether the Vikes are scheduled
>to play on Monday night football this season and if so
>when.
>
>Also, could anyone post or e-mail me the Vikes' 92-Season
>schedule.
>
>Thanx
>S.H

November 2	Vikings @ Bears		MNF	8:00 CST

I have a Vikes schedule, but not on me right now.  I'll post again later.

Joel Alvstad
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Miami
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Miami is atop not just the AFC East but the entire Conference with a 4-0
record. The Dolphins have started the season 4-0 only 4 times before,
however each time they made the playoffs and twice went to the Super Bowl.
When you consider that they will most likely go undefeated in division play,
you have to like them now for the Super Bowl. Remember the team that wins
the AFC East most likely will have the Best record in the AFC and therefore
homefield advantage in the playoffs.

Go Dolphins 14-2 & AFC East Division Champs
Go Canes National Champs 
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   |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
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From: oxley@pdn.paradyne.com (Don Oxley)
Subject: Re: GET READY FOR A LOSS DOLPHANS!
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:02:29 GMT

In article <BvH483.L0E@acsu.buffalo.edu> v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes:
>We in the Great White North used to be able to count on 3 things in life.
>
>	1.)	Death
>	2.)	Taxes
>	3.)	Losing to Miami twice a year
>
>NOT ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!
>NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!


NOT!!!!!!!!!


>
>Thurman Thomas HATES the Dollies more than Bush hates Broccoli!
>That is enough to push Buffalo to VICTORY right there.
>
>
>So "Hello Dollies- It's so nice to put you DOWN where you belong!!!
>
>Hee! Hee!	My favorite game of the year!
>For Dolli-phans, Life is a swirling eddy of dispair and then they die.
>Bye for now!
>
>Even our college team scores 40+ points!!!!!!!!!!!
>GOOOOOOO-O-O-O	BILLS, BULLS, BISONS AND er, ahh, well Sabres. Yeh that's it!


This dolphin's fan hopes you are not choking too much on your sizzled
buffalo hide this morning.  Total Dolphins dominance is what I
saw on the tube yesterday.  'Nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!


DonO

--
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AT&T Paradyne |UUCP:     uunet!pdn!oxley       | shut and appear stupid, than to
Largo, FL     |--------------------------------| open it and leave no doubt."
(813)530-8282 |  Opinions are mine, not AT&T   |               -Mark Twain
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Man In Motion/Shifting Players
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:57:58 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct1.045213.10012@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
> 
> Hi there,
> 	The NFL rules state that the offense is granted ONE man in motion,
> correct?. If so, how do the officials determine if a player is in motion,
> or is just shifting?
> 
> Thanks
> 
>   +----------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
>   |  Kevin Lu                              | Monash University             |
>   |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
>   |                                        | Australia                     |


I beleive it is one man in motion when the ball is hiked.  If more than
one guy simply moves when the ball is hiked, penalty.  Also, I think the
linemen have to be set for a certain number of seconds before the play
begins and once set, they can't move until the play starts.

Also, if a player is in motion, there can be no forward motion during the
snap.

-- no sig necessary --
       Aza
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Phoenix = Superbowl Contenders
From: Joe Football
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:11:30 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

 
 
NOT! NOT!! NOT!!! NOT!!!! NOT!!!!! NOT!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!
! NOT!!!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JUST A COUPLE OF GOOD REASONS NOT!!!
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jackson a dolphin?
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:25:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BvB9yq.C10@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069qqqc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike C.) writes...
>Just heard on ESPN that Miami plans to announce the signing of 
>Keith Jackson tomorrow.
> 
>This adds a whole new dimension to the Dolphins-Bills game...
>Marino now has a brand new weapon to tear up the Bills secondary
>with.
> 

	Keith Jackson won't be able to play for at least 3 weeks.  So much 
for that.

Jonny B.
From: syang@verdi.eng.uci.edu (Guess)
Subject: Re: Harbaugh Gets Ass Chewing
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:49:30 GMT
Distribution: usa

C. P. Riff writes
> Joe Football writes:
>>Any comments on this?  Will Harbaugh be starting QB next week?
> Of course he will. One bad play doesn't mean you pull a QB who
> has been reliable for you for 2+ years and replace him with
> an unproven 3rd year or rookie QB.

Answer is NO Harbaugh will not start next week.


Because next week is bye week for CHICAGO!

Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 22:11:42 -0400 
From: "Calvin D. Swartzentruber" <cs6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: WHAT DID I SAY....EAGLES 16-0 (SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS)
Distribution: usa

I enjoyed laughing at your post even though I am an Eagles fan. 
However, I feel that Buddy Ryan was the reason the Eagles never won the
Show, despite their good team.  They were never able to achieve
consistency under him, so despite any nostalgia feelings for him you may
have, Rich Kotite is IMHO the better coach.  He has turned them into
what they are today. Also if you are including baseball players, where
is Schmidt??!!!!!!  

Calvin
A loyal fan in Pittsburgh

The opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect those of
my city, or my college, or my parents, or the guy who used to live next
door to me when I was a kid.
From: 3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Question for Lion's experts
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:09:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: CMUVM.92274.1109433ZASIB3
Organization: Central Michigan University

They have used Mel Gray on offense in some circumstances in past years.
It is the feeling of the coaches, however, is that he is the best at
what he does (runbacks) and they don't want him having to split his
concentration; or get banged around on play after play.  He is so
beautiful and effective with runbacks, I tend to agree with the coaches.
They have a good receiving corps and Barry.  Why take the chance of Gray
getting hurt when he is such an asset when it comes to field position.
Bob
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 21:53:55 -0400 
From: "Calvin D. Swartzentruber" <cs6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Eagles : YIKES!
	<1992Oct6.151139.10336@PacBell.COM>

 I am continually surprised by the ability of fans to put down awfully
good teams.  I am a true Green Eagles fan, but the Cowboys play was
anything but sorry.  While it was certainly not their best game of the
year (hell, it wasn't the Eagles best either), they did a pretty good
job of holding on to the ball, and holding off the Eagles, but it just
wasn't good enough.  If it comes right down to it, I don't think you
Niners fans have anything to talk about as far as sorry playing goes
either.  What's your excuse??!!!!!  Give the Eagles and Dallas a little
credit.  The NFC East is undoubtedly the toughest in the league, and
even the so-so teams are good when compared to other teams.  This is
proven by looking at how often the Show has been won by a team in that
division in the past few years.  If you thought that Dallas looked
pathetic offensively (and I certainly did not), perhaps it was just
because of how really good Gang Green is, and the Eagles offense can
play against any team, any day also. Think about it!!  If your team is
superior, it should be evident in the way they play, win or lose.  I
think the Cowboys played better losing to the Eagles, than the Niners
did winning against the Rams.

Calvin
A loyal Eagle in Pittsburgh.

The opinions expressed in my post do not necessarily reflect those of my
city, or my college, or my parents, or the guy who used to live next
door to me when I was a kid. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd)
Subject: Marinovich and the Raiders
Reply-To: dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:30:59 GMT

Has anybody heard and rumors/facts about Todd Marinovich?  After his
terrible performance, I was wondering if he will be starting this
weekend.

-Don Todd

Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:12:09 -0400 
From: Erik Karl Witte <ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: STANDINGS, WEEK 4

AFC East
Team          Record   PF     PA
Buffalo       4-0-0   153     45
Miami         3-0-0    72     50
Indianapolis  1-2-0    24     61
New England   0-3-0    13     65
N.Y. Jets     0-4-0    51     96

AFC Central
Team          Record   PF     PA
Houston       3-1-0    94     59
Pittsburgh    3-1-0    82     57
Cincinnati    2-2-0    75     90
Cleveland     1-3-0    54     69

AFC West
Team          Record   PF     PA
Denver        3-1-0    50     56
Kansas City   3-1-0    97     47
Seattle       1-3-0    37     72
L.A. Raiders  0-4-0    57     96
San Diego     0-4-0    29     95

NFC East
Team          Record   PF     PA
Dallas        3-0-0    88     58
Philadelphia  3-0-0    76     27
Washington    2-1-0    47     50
N.Y. Giants   1-2-0    69     79
Phoenix       0-3-0    41     85

NFC Central
Team          Record   PF     PA
Minnesota     3-1-0   108     78
Tampa Bay     3-1-0   101     59
Chicago       2-2-0    88    110
Green Bay     2-2-0    64     80
Detroit       1-3-0    88     84

NFC West
Team          Record   PF     PA
San Fransisco 3-1-0   109     72
L.A.Rams      2-2-0    49     76
New Orleans   2-2-0    61     44
Atlanta       1-3-0    75     92

Next Week's Games:
Chicago at Minnesota, 1pm
Green Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
Indianapolis at Tampa Bay, 1pm
Miami at Buffalo, 1pm
New Orleans at Detroit, 1pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4pm
L.A. Rams at San Fransisco, 4pm
N.Y. Giants at L.A. Raiders, 4pm       All Times EST
Seattle at San Diego, 4pm
Washington at Phoenix, 4pm
New England at N.Y. Jets, 8 pm
MNF:  Dallas at Philadelphia, 9pm
Open Date:  Cincinnati, Cleveland, Houston, Pittsburgh
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: New look Browns?
From: bggreenberg@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Brian Greenberg)
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:21:55 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Sep22.110511.6986@cbnews.cb.att.com>, chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller) writes:
> In article <1686A4C09.O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller) writes:
>>Could the Browns be turning the corner with Todd Philcox. Is Bernie Kosar just
>>to slow for this Browns team to be effective. Todd Philcox is a for sure go
>>this weekend also, coach Bill Belichick says it's so. So if Philcox proves
>>himself while Bernie is healing is he going to start when Bernie is healthy.
>>Mr. Modell just might have to answer some questions in five weeks or so. Was
>>the win against the Raiders the new Browns or just a fluke??????
> 
> 	No, I do NOT think that Todd Philcox is the Browns Quarterback
> of the future. I do think Todd had a good game, but feel that the Raiders
> poor play made the Browns look better than what they are! Don't be 
> surprised if Mike Tomzak is in there some time the next game! I feel Mike
> was a very GOOD aquisition! 
> 	I think the Browns Quarterback of the future is somewhere in the
> upcoming draft! Maybe Elvis Gerbak(hope the spelling is correct!).
> 
> 
> GOOOOOOOOO BROWNS!
> - Dan
> 
I hate it when people say that this team would be better without Kosar.  Get a
grip.  If the line would play half as well for Bernie as they did for Philcox
this team would be contenders agian.  Since Kosar was drafted Cleveland has
made it to the playoffs at least 5 times (six I think).  Just because he hasn't
won the super bowl doesn't me he isn't good for this team.  Look at Marino. 
Also if you took away Metcalfs catches (which Eric ran and juked his way
through) Philcox had an OK game.  Kosar is here for at least another five years
thankfully.

L8r,
-Brian

Philcox change numbers.  That'sSipe's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!