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From: kuwa@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (KUWARI Seiji)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.announce
Subject: X11R5 contrib/clients and contrib/lib/Xaw (i18n) patch part 3
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:59:06 GMT
Distribution: inet

I put a oficial patch part 3 for X11R5/contrib/clients (Internationalized
clients) from OMRON Corporation on export.lcs.mit.edu.
Files are:
  ~ftp/pub/R5/contrib-fixes/i18n-clients/patch3.README
                                         patch3.Z
It is to patch2.
This patch was confirmed on mit-patch-10.

Please read patch3.README


I put a oficial patch part 3 for X11R5/contrib/lib/Xaw (Internationalized
Athena Widgets Set) from OMRON Corporation on export.lcs.mit.edu.
Files are:
  ~ftp/pub/R5/contrib-fixes/Xaw/patch3.README
                                patch3.Z
It is to patch2.
This patch was confirmed on mit-patch-10.

Please read patch3.README

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 Seiji Kuwari (kuwa@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp)
 OMRON Corporation		
				Phone: +81-75-951-5111 (ext. 3689)
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: merlyn@iWarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: more on X11R5pl10 gcc2.1 sunos4.1 sun3 blah blah blah
Reply-To: merlyn@iWarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Organization: Stonehenge; netaccess via Intel, Beaverton, Oregon, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:06:27 GMT

OK, the problem with the sparcs is I forgot to set "teenyversion" to
2, so I didn't get the SunPost411FCSLd defined.  Once that happened,
everything comes up like a champ (well, mostly :-).  (Thanks to the
few emails I got that pointed that out.)

HOWEVER.

My sun3's are all at 4.1 (no patches, no laughs please).  If I set the
version to 4, 1, 0, everything compiles and installs fine, but the
very first thing I try (startx) fails in xinit, looking for XtMalloc
(again!).  Ugh.  So I think "hey, it worked for the sparc, maybe I can
just do it on the sun3", so I leave major/minor/teeny alone and define
SunPost411FCSLd.  Ugh.  Now I know why it's not defined... signal 11
on *every* ld invocation!

So, what's the scoop?  I cannot compile X11R5pl10 on sunos 4.1?  Why
didn't it just say that somewhere to save me the hassle?

Or am I missing something REALLY obvious?

Just another frustrated X11R5pl10 compiler,
-- 
/=Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ==========\
| on contract to Intel's iWarp project, Beaverton, Oregon, USA, Sol III      |
| merlyn@iwarp.intel.com ...!any-MX-mailer-like-uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn |
\=Cute Quote: "Intel: putting the 'backward' in 'backward compatible'..."====/
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jgraham@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU (Jay Graham, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville)
Subject: Subscription request for jcgraham@cs.uah.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:29:19 GMT
From: michael@maine.maine.edu (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: HELP WITH BITMAPS
Date: 4 Apr 92 18:02:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System
To:      NETNEWS@MAINE

In article <ktjsvlINNkaq@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>In article <3088@carroll1.cc.edu>, pwickman@cerebus.cc.edu (Paul J. Wickman)
>writes:
>|>      I'm trying to assign bitmaps/pixmaps to some simple command widgets
>|> and am have problems.  Here is my code:
>|>
>|>   [bitmap array definition omitted]
>|>
>|> Widget open;
>|> Display *display;
>|> Window host_area;
>|> open = XtCreateManagedWidget(blah, blah, blah);
>|> display=XtDisplay(open);
>|> host_area=XtWindow(open);
>|> routerP = XCreateBitmapFromData(display,host_area,router_bits,router_width,
>|>        router_height);
>|>
>|>      And here is the error that I get when trying to start the program:
>|> X Error of failed request:  BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window
parameter)
>|>   Major opcode of failed request:  53 (X_CreatePixmap)
>|>   Resource id in failed request:  0x0
>
>You haven't yet Realized the widget called "open", so it doesn't
>yet have a real Window ID.   Until you Realize it, XtWindow(open)
>will return 0.  XCreateBitmapFromData hands this 0 window ID on
>to the X_CreatePixmap request, and the server complains.
>
>Always make sure your widget has been Realized before calling
>XtWindow.

Alternatively, you can use RootWindowOfScreen so that your pixmap is created
using the attributes of the root window. Like so:

Window root;

root = RootWindowOfScreen(XtScreen(host_area));
routerP = XCreateBitmapFromData(display,root,router_bits,router_width,
          router_height);

This will work because the Screen for a widget is set at widget creation, not
at widget realization.

Michael Johnson, VM Systems Group                     michael@maine.maine.edu
"I will choose the path that's clear. I will choose Free Will." -- Neil Peart
From: dalel@radian.uucp (Dale Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Substitute for XAPPLRESDIR in SGI Xlib
Keywords: Xlib SGI XAPPLRESDIR
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:06:44 GMT
Followup-To: sender
Organization: Radian Corporation, Austin, TX


One of our programmers has said that he remembers that X
windows libraries on his Silicon Graphics Indigo do not look
at the XAPPLRESDIR environment variable to find the application
resources directory.  He says that they look for another variable
and that this is documented somewhere.
        Will some kind soul E-MAIL me, to tell me what this variable
is and where it is documented?  Thanks in advance.
-- 
|~~~~~\  /~~\  |~~~~~\ |~|  /~~\  |~\_|~|   Dale W. Lewis, Sys. Adm.
|  ~  / / /\ \ | [<>] || | / /\ \ | \ \ |   radian!dalel@natinst.com
|_|~|_\/_|~~|_\|_____/ |_|/_|~~|_\|_|\__|   Box 201088 Austin, TX 78720 
C   O   R   P   O   R   A   T   I   O   N   All opinions solely my own
From: mahan@tgv.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: RE: Communication.
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:15:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet

#
#Here's my problem:  I have an X-Windows application process running and
#a non-X communications process running.  When a message is received by my
#comm process, I want to interrupt the X-Windows application and update
#a status window indicating that a message has arrived.  What is a good
#way to do this?  Do I have to make my comm process an X-Windows process
#in order to to successfully communicate?  I'm on a VAXstation 3100 using
#VMS and Motif 1.1.
#

Under VMS I would suggest you use the routine XtAppAddInput() to watch for
an event flag to be set.  Then in you communications routine when you want
to notify the X application, set the event flag with $SETEF which will
trigger the callback that you specified in XtAppAddInput().  When the
callback is triggered, clear the event flag with $CLREF.  I uses this method
all the time under VMS and X.

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered  - Lazarus Long
a capital crime.  For a first offense, that is            From the Notebooks of
							  Lazarus Long
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mark@telesys.ncsc.navy.MIL (Williams)
Subject: Re:  Project mgmt tools needed
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:18:59 GMT

Kerry Kimbrough writes...

> From: unisql!kk@cs.utexas.edu (Kerry Kimbrough)
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 10:40:59 CDT
> To: expo.lcs.mit.edu!xpert@cs.utexas.edu
> Subject: Project mgmt tools needed
> 
> Who can recommend X-based tools for project management? Features
> needed are those found in MacProject: simple GUI, PERT charts, Gantt
> charts, resource levelling, nested subprojects, good PostScript
> output.
> 
> I'm especially interested in freeware or products that are affordable
> for 1-2 seats. AutoPlan seems to fit the bill, except for its cost.
> Nevertheless, if you can share your experiences with AutoPlan or
> similar products, I'd like to hear them.

I've also seen material about MasterPlan... I'd really like to see others'
experiences, too.

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: boote@eureka.scd.ucar.edu ( Jeff Boote)
Subject: sun4 4.1.1 static linking problem with R5
Keywords: dl static dlsym dlopen dlclose dynamic
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:20:07 GMT

I am trying to build an executable staticly so I can distribute an application
to machines without the libraries installed.  Unfortunately, when I link I
get the following undefined symbols:

_dlsym
_dlopen
_dlclose

Now I know these calls are in -ldl; however, there is no /usr/lib/libdl.a on
our system.  Only a .so, which makes it impossible to link this library in
staticly.

I tracked this down far enough to see that these symbols are being referenced
from libc.a, specifically in the mblib.o, mbstowcs.o, mbtowc.o, wcstombs.o,
and the wctomb.o modules.

I have a few questions about this:
1. Why would these modules make references to the dynamic librarie?
2. If I link adding "-Bdynamic -ldl -Bstatic" will I run into problems
   on the other machines?
-- 
-
Jeff W. Boote  <boote@ncar.ucar.edu>      *********************************
Scientific Computing Division             * There is nothing good or bad  *
National Center for Atmospheric Reasearch * but thinking makes it so.     *
Boulder                                   *                   Hamlet      *
                                          *********************************
From: robert@n051.saskg.semicon.sony.co.jp (Robert Veltman)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: color pixmap editor requested
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:55:48 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Semiconductor Group, Sony Corp.


I know of a few bitmap editors, but are there any X applications that
can work with color too? I have xwd files (of pixmaps) produced by an image
scanner that I would like to "clean up". I'm interested in any
application that supports drawing of images at pixel level.

Robert Veltman -- SONY Semiconductor Group Atsugi Japan
From: jess@bally.com (Jess Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: mwm resources
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:09:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Port Angeles Roughriders


I use mwm on a IBM RS/6000, R3.

I would like to set my resources such that any client will become the
top window by clicking anywhere on the window. If possible, how?
-- 

Jess Sullivan                            Walk sexily and carry a big stick.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: kes@mitre.org (Kirk E. Sullivan)
Subject: X over WANs???
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:52:11 GMT

I understand that X11R6 is going to incorporate a standard for 
communicating X over slow speed serial lines, but is anybody looking at 
transmitting X over relatively slow speed (e.g., 9.6KB) WANs???

Kirk E. Sullivan
kes@mitre.org
From: eric@pencom.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: How do I show an Image a X prog.
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:59:59 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Apr6.040002.1554@latcs1.lat.oz.au> beilby@latcs1.lat.oz.au  
(Scorpius) writes:
> 
> 	I tried posting this Q before, but it didn't apear to get out.
> 
> 	How do I display an image using the Athena widget set?  The image
> will be in basicly 8 bit Sun Raster format, ie 256 bytes * 3 LUT, sperate
> from the image which is hight*width bytes.
> 
> 	It apears that to display images I need to put them into pixmap
> format, but how to do that and what to do then is a little beyond me.

Best to use XImage.
The XImage structure will allow you to specify exactly
what your data looks like, once you read it in (See X programming manuals).
You will have to create an Xcolormap from the colormap in the
rasterfile (Again see X progrmaming manual).
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jgg@widget!uunet.uu.net (Xmiester)
Subject: Re: Scrolling Window widgets with LARGE child
Organization: EVB Software Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:46:11 GMT


>All of the scrolling widgets I am familiar with (HP SWindow, Athena Paned)
>manage a child widget that they move with the XtMoveWidget() call. The coordinate
>arguments are Position type variables, so problems occur when the height
>(or width) of the child is larger than 32K.
>
>Has anyone run into this problem before? In a spreadsheet-like application, it
>seems to me you would want a less restrictive upper limit. Are there
>scrolling window widgets out there that manage their child in a more "virtual"
>manner? - the child widget size doesn't track its underlying "virtual" layout;
>instead it "juggles" what is displayed in the scrolling window in response to
>scrolling actions.
>

The OSF/Motif Scrolled window does what you are asking for.


-- 
John Goodsen
S/W Development Environmentalist
goodsenj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu
From: bobt@boa.mitron.tek.COM (Bob Toole)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Can C++ / X empower us to make great apps for the 90's?
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:37:22 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> How does one do true Object Oriented GUI development under X and C++?

I consider the term "true Object Oriented" more difficult to define than
"true religion".  And maybe about as useful. :-)

However, you did go on to clarify some of your complaints,
and I share your concerns.  Moreover, you praise NeXTstep, which I am
not familiar with.

I assume that this is software that comes on the NeXT workstation. 
If not, how do I get in contact with someone who will talk to me about it?
For that matter, if it is NeXT, do you have an 800 number or something that
will save me a half-hour search through old advertisements / product lit ?

Thanx

Bob Toole
bobt@goldfish.mitron.tek.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: renalds@embers.ra.anl.gov (A Renalds RA/208/Sdcp ????)
Subject: window dump to color ps
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne IL
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:43:21 GMT

Can someone help me locate the latest version of the program
which dumps color X-Windows to a PS file which can be sent to 
a color printer? 

Thanks in advance,
Andrew

renalds@embers.ra.anl.gov
From: moss@brl.mil (Gary S. Moss)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Trouble Running R5 Xsun
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:05:58 GMT
Reply-To: moss@brl.mil
Organization: Ballistic Research Laboratory

In article <9204131957.AA01708@mvision.com>, marc@mvision.COM (Marc Albert) writes:
|> I compiled the R5 distribution with no problems.  The server (Xsun)
|> will not run properly.  It seems that the applications and the window manager
|> work fine but the mouse will not move and I can not get window
|> focus at all.
|> 
|> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
|> 
|> Setup:
|> 
|> Sun IPC
|> SunOS 4.1.1
|> Default MIT site.def configuration (and MANY others)

This sounds like the problem I had under SunOS 4.1.1 on a Sun3 when I
compiled the X server with /usr/5bin/cc by mistake.  Changing my path to
search /bin before /usr/5bin and recompiling fixed the problem.  At the
time I suspected it was due to the Sys 5 flavor ioctls, but don't
recall if I had any hard evidence of that.  It would be nice if the default
sun.cf specified /bin/cc explicitly.

-Gary
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Subject: Re: Motif vs Open-look vs X
Originator: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
	<1992Apr8.221211.27335@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:46:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.221211.27335@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
jarober@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (DE Robertson james an 410-740-9172)
writes:

   ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:

   >mark@telesys.ncsc.navy.MIL (Williams) writes:
   >>>  We are planning to build a large windows application
   >>>  and would like suggestions on the following     
   >>>  topics:

	   For Motif, it comes shipped on many platforms, and I believe that 
   the royalty (license ?) fee is $50.00 per app shipped. This is more
   expensive than OpenLook, but considering the cost of the average Unix
   app, it's not too bad.

Not that I'm an OSF/Motif fan but my memory of the licensing agreement
didn't view it as _that_ bad.  An executable linked with the Motif
libraries did not have any royalty.  However, if you wanted to
distribute the libraries, mwm, include files, etc., there was a $50
royalty.

Actually, I thought the OSF/Motif license was reasonable except for:
	1. It took months to get everything settled.  OSF just hated
	   returning phone calls.
	2. Getting maintenance, even for just updates and no supports,
	   was outrageously priced.  Kind of like buying a Jaguar for
	   $100 only to find out each oil change cost $10,000.

--pete
--
Pete Ware / Ohio State University /
           ware@cis.ohio-state.edu
           (614) 538-0965
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: lights in the MIT PEX-SI server
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:24:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: unocal.1992Apr7.182446.9534
Organization: Unocal Corporation, Anaheim, California
Originator: stgprao@xing


I was trying to get a lighting model to work, any model, in the MIT PEX-SI server
on a SPARC-II with a GX board.
I was hoping to get flat shading with a directional light source to work.
This version of PEX does not support interpolated shading.
The R5 release notes list unsupported PEX features and light models is not
among them.
I am using the O'Reilly sphere examples (p. 649, phigs/rendering/sphere.c)
as a departure point.
If I turn the lights off (comment out pset_light_src_state) and the interior
shade off (pset_int_style PSTYLE_NONE) I get the sphere and plane wireframe.
If I set the interior shading to solid, I get a white rectangle and disk
as expected.
If I turn on any lights (pset_light_src_rep & pset_light_src_state),
I get nothing.
One thing I notice is the server colormap does not load any of the grey shades
I expect.  Perhaps another color map is necessary.

P.S. Several other PEX commands fail in the sphere.c example, so I've turned
them off.  I don't think they affect the lighting model.
They include:
COMMAND			FAILURE MODE
pset_hlhsr-mode		MIT PEX doesn't support zbuffering
pset_int_shade_method	PSD_COLOUR causes a SPARC II to crash, changed to PSD_NONE
pset_face_cull_mode	if on, some polygon fills leak, so I turned off

Thanks in advance for suggestions.
From: CFRAZIER@hdsc.ssc.af.MIL (C | C Code | C Code Run, please!)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: colors
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:34:24 GMT
Organization: The Internet


I'm running  Motif  on a VAX and have noticed that my colors aren't consistent 
from terminal to terminal.  I'm having a heck of a time with the colormaps and 
someone out there please offer some code to help me with this.  thanks.

I've worked over 30 hours on just getting the colors the act right.  Can anyone 
offer me any advice.  I've already gone over schedule for this thing.  

cfrazier@hdsc.ssc.af.mil
From: ziegler@nyquist.bellcore.com (Rob Ziegler 21324)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: WANTED: comments on DOS-based X servers
Keywords: DOS
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:34:56 GMT
Organization: Bellcore

I would like to gather some observations and user experiences
with the various commercially-available X servers on DOS platforms 
(generally high-end '386/'486 machines with SVGA graphics).

Note that I am not referring to 80386/80486 machines running
some flavor of UN*X.

I am talking about products like XVision, Desqview/X, Hummingbird,
etc.

Information on performance, quirks/departures from standard X behavior,
shortcomings (I'd expect few to support PostScript), hardware and
software requirements (platform, OS, networking), vendor support, 
pricing, etc. would be welcome.

Alternatively, if there is a RECENT magazine article that hits the
same topics, I'd appreciate a reference so that I can read it for
myself.

Thanks for your help,

 -- Rob Ziegler -- ziegler@nyquist.bellcore.com -- (908) 758-3057 --
From: clarsen@lsil.com (Chris Larsen 8993)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X comms protocol
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:19:56 GMT
Reply-To: clarsen@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Microprocessor Group

In article 8567@nuscc.nus.sg, eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng @ NUS) writes:
>I am jus wondering...
>
>	"X can support any reliable byte stream protocol"
>
>Then why are all the implementations of X that I've seen so far are all
>based on IP (with ethernet or serial line) as the lower level 
>communications protocol.
>
>Why not others? What about
>	-	SCSI
>	-	direct from VME, AT etc bus
>	-	Any other reliable media
>
>Do such implementations exist? If not, why? If there are, then I am sure
>there are many people interested in hearing more about such products.

    Once upon a time when I worked for Inmos we implemented the X protocol on
Transputer links.  This was done so that one Transputer could run the server and
another a client.  We ported two different X clients (ico and twm) and Xlib.  I did
most of the initial porting work but the twm port was done by Steve Shepherd (formerly
of Inmos but I can remember who he works for now).  It worked pretty well once the
deadlock situations where removed (I spent a lot of time getting rid of deadlock
conditions, Transputer links a synchronous but the X protocol isn't!).

---

Chris Larsen 			(408)433-8993
LSI Logic Corporation		clarsen@lsil.com
1551 McCarthy Blvd.
Milpitas, CA  95035
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jwang@iastate.edu (Jing Wang)
Subject: Problem with Xsession!!
Originator: jwang@pv210a.vincent.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:52:15 GMT


Hi netters, I just have X11R5 installed on my Sun 3/60(installed by making
symbolic links of the binaries...not compiled), and it runs ok.  But now
I am having trouble with the Xsession in xdm-config file.  My Xsession is
very general...very much like a sample Xsession given on a X-window text, so
I guess it should be ok.  And I do have a .xsession file in my home directory.
The problem starts when I add the Xsession entry in the xdm-config file,
xlogin denies any logins, not even root!  But everything works great if I
remove the Xsession entry(in xdm-config), except that it won't execute
.xsession script.

What did I do wrong?  I almost tried everything I know...and reboot the system
a zillion times just to try every possible option....please help me...

Reply to the address below...thanks in advance.

-Jing
-- 
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Dept. of Electrical and............................tnc62@isuvax.iastate.edu...
........Computer Engineering...........Bitnet   : jwang%iastate.edu@isumvs...
Iowa State University...................Phone    : (515)292-1757..............
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: amir@matis.UUCP (Amir Katz)
Subject: XXGDB Questions
Reply-To: matis!ingr.COM!amir%matis.UUCP@uunet.uu.net
Organization: SEE Technologies Ltd.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:27:59 GMT

Netters,
I've been modifying xxgdb for a while. I can't release it to users at this
site until it's in a good shape.
I ran into a few problem, so instead of re-inventing the wheel, let me put
the questions to you: 

1. What is the latest version? Mine is 1.03 (patch level 2).

2. If there is a newer version or patches, where can I get them? MIT's
   export doesn't have it in the 'contrib' directory.

3. Has anyone ran into tyhe following bugs:

   3.1. XXGDB fails to show source files until the first breakpoint is
        reached. Also, the stop sign is not shown.
        I traced this to source.c. The reason is that 'dirList' is
        empty. It is filled only when user enters the first 'dir' command.
        Workaround: put 'dir' command(s) in .gdbinit file.

   3.2. Dialog window sometimes does not scroll down on text input or output.

Please respond to the address below (ignore munged mail headers).
-- 
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