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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Subject: Re: Video Questions
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 12:43:13 GMT


In a previous article, aj137@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Jeffries) says:

>
>Well I must say I am a big Simpsons fan and never really watched Dinosaurs 
>because I thought it might be a Simpsons rip off.  But one day I turned it
>on and thought it was great!  The parodies of television are the best and I 
>think the baby's cuteness is my least favorite part of the show.  Too bad the 
>show is surrounded by so many crappy shows.  I don't forsee a Perfect 
>Strangers news group.
> 

You're right about Perfect Strangers being a load of crap, about the
only show worse than that is Baby Talk. I cant imagine why Tony Danza
would get involved with a program like that. He must have made enough
money for two lifetimes between Taxi (a classic show) & Who's The Boss
(a show that I dont particularly care for, but I know alot of people
that think it's great), but this has very little to do with Dinosaurs
so now back to the original post

>
>Now about the videos.  Are most of the episodes out on tape?  What's the q
>quality like, are they taped at the six hour speed?  How many episodes per 
>tape?  How much do they cost?
>

So far only 12 stories (out of 29) are out on tape. There are 6
volumes available prices ranging from $9.99 to $12.99 depending on
where you buy them from. Each volume contains 2 episodes recorded in
the SP (2 hour) mode. The stories on the first 3 volumes are:

The Mighty Megolasaures
Hurling Day
High Noon
The Mating Dance
Endangered Species
The Howling

I'm not sure which stories are on which volumes, maybe someone else
can fill in the blanks. Also, I forget the shows that are on volumes
4-6. There was a listing in this group a few weeks ago with the titles,
but the autodelete might've already gotten it.

>
>Also does anyone else out there have Dolby Surround?  Dinosaurs sounds 
>incredible with Dolby Pro Logic Surround!!  The music fills the room like on
>the Simpsons, but Dinosaurs adds a lot of sound effects from all over the
>room.  Its great!!
>

I cant say for sure, but I would think that the sound would be the
same or possibly better on the tapes that are for sale. Lets face it,
Walt Disney Productions may be a lot of things, but they're not 
cheapskates when it comes to producing & distributing home video. One
need only to look at the amount of work that was done on restoring
"Fantasia" before it was released on home video last year.
-- 
Bill White, aa634@Cleveland.freenet.edu OR aa037@Medina.Freenet.edu
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Xref: sparky alt.tv.dinosaurs:269 alt.binaries.sounds.d:1475
From: ianr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Ian Rogers)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs,alt.binaries.sounds.d
Subject: short lived sounds
Keywords: sound archive
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:34:39 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex at Brighton


A couple of people (who have now reached hero status :-) have been
posting Dinosaur sounds to alt.binaries.sounds.misc. Unfortunately our
site has a one day expiry on alt groups :-(

I managed to catch half of them. Is there a dinosaur archive I can ftp
from?

Thanks,

Ian Rogers                    School of Cognitive Science
Research Fellow               Sussex University, Falmer, Brighton, UK

   "In the end, it was the Sunday afternoons he couldn't cope with, and that
    terrible listlessness which starts to set in at about 2.55" - D. Adams

                      Again! Again! - Baby Dinosaur
From: erchul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David A. V. Erchul)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Ethyl Dies - 07/17/92
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:12:56 GMT
Reply-To: erchul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: erchul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <18JUL199211370606@zeus.tamu.edu>, by elo9246@zeus.tamu.edu (LaNelle Ohlhausen):
> 
> It would be wonderful to have episode summaries for 'Dinosaurs' that are as 
> thorough as the ones Raymond Chen does for 'The Simpsons'.
> 
> LaNelle Ohlhausen
> 
 
	I'm glad some of you liked it but I definitly can't do 
	aywhere near as good as Raymond Chen.
	Besides I had to take notes as the show progressed  
	because my video recorder isn't working. (I hope that I  
	can get it fixed soon!)   

 
                                       D.A.V.E.  
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: aj137@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Jeffries)
Subject: Video Questions
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 02:05:58 GMT


Well I must say I am a big Simpsons fan and never really watched Dinosaurs 
because I thought it might be a Simpsons rip off.  But one day I turned it
on and thought it was great!  The parodies of television are the best and I 
think the baby's cuteness is my least favorite part of the show.  Too bad the 
show is surrounded by so many crappy shows.  I don't forsee a Perfect 
Strangers news group.

Now about the videos.  Are most of the episodes out on tape?  What's the q
quality like, are they taped at the six hour speed?  How many episodes per 
tape?  How much do they cost?

Also does anyone else out there have Dolby Surround?  Dinosaurs sounds 
incredible with Dolby Pro Logic Surround!!  The music fills the room like on
the Simpsons, but Dinosaurs adds a lot of sound effects from all over the
room.  Its great!!

Well thanks...glad to see this newsgroup is here!

-- 
David Jeffries     aj137@cleveland.freenet.edu
MERZBOW/MOBY/NEW ORDER/HAFLER TRIO/LAIBACH/SPEEDY J/ANDRE MARROU
"You give funky love, funky love."------Cathy Dennis
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal)
Subject: Re: List/Review of Books about TM and Ayurveda
Reply-To: rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal)
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf Information Systems, Inc. Cambridge, MA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:03:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.200356.29222@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
(Robert McGrath) writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.001559.7324@imagen.com>, avi@seal.imagen.com writes in 
> apart:
> |> Your quotes SUPPORT my point exactly, that TM is    N O T   a religion.
> |> Let me explain why.
> |> 
> |> When somebody talks about God it doesn't make him religious. Many
if not most
> |> Western Philosophers throught time (all the way back to Greek philosophy, 
> |> possibly even earlier) talked about God, discussing the possibilty or 
> |> impossibility of His/Hers existence, and possible attributes if
He/She exists.
> |> 
> |> This does NOT make any of them to be religious, nor does it make their 
> |> books a religious text.
> A book about god or similar topic is, by my definition, a book about 
> religion.  A philosophy which can be accepted only on faith and is blindly
> promulgated by a disciplined propaganda system is that same as a religion 
> as far as I am concerned.  
> 
> Even granting your point, and accepting that "philosophy" is not "religion" 
> so long as it either doesn't discuss god or otherwise claims it is not 
> religion (an argument only a philosopher or a lawyer could love), that 
> still makes my point:
>   the supposed "science" supporting TM's claims is  N O T  science, it 
>   is religion (or if you prefer "philosophy").  
> 
> I can't see why you are so hot to show that TM is a "philosopy" rather
> than a religion.  The only difference I can see is that a "religion" has
> a favored tax status in many places (of which the TM org. probably avails
> itself) and "philosophy" doesn't.  Does the TM organization pay taxes or
> not?
> 
> -- 
>   Robert E. McGrath
>   Urbana Illinois
>   mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu

It does not matter how many ways TM or its substance is presented to
your view. One will not understand it until one experience IT. It is
just experiencing your own inner self. The technique of TM gives one
this experience. That should be the basis of your judgements.

Until you have that experience, you will continue to your arguments.  

Good Luck.
From: elascurn@daimi.aau.dk (Lars R{der Clausen)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: List/Review of Books about TM and Ayurveda
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:15:18 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal) writes:
[Discussion about TM being religion...]

>It does not matter how many ways TM or its substance is presented to
>your view. One will not understand it until one experience IT. It is
>just experiencing your own inner self. The technique of TM gives one
>this experience. That should be the basis of your judgements.

>Until you have that experience, you will continue to your arguments.  

I've experienced TM, and one and a half year of that didn't get me one step
further to my inner self, whereas one year of other meditational techniques
has helped me a LOT. And I'd dare say that TM, like all other kinds of
meditation, has a religious side, since its goal is, in some way, to make
you one with the universe, which would be the ultimate god-experience. It
may or may not have much to do with being a religion, but it is religious.
There is a difference.

>Good Luck.

Thanks. I'll need it.

-Lars Clausen
--
The Computer: Serial number: None of your business. Intelligence: Godlike 
(kinda). Weapons: An entire lunatic civilization armed with the latest in 
megadeath weapons desperately eager to carry out its every whim.
Personality: Cheerful and happy, of course. The Computer is your friend!
From: rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: List/Review of Books about TM and Ayurveda
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:38:57 GMT
Reply-To: rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal)
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf Information Systems, Inc. Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Jul30.151518.105@daimi.aau.dk>, elascurn@daimi.aau.dk
(Lars R{der Clausen) writes:
> [Discussion about TM being religion...]
> I've experienced TM, and one and a half year of that didn't get me one step
> further to my inner self, whereas one year of other meditational techniques
> has helped me a LOT. And I'd dare say that TM, like all other kinds of
> meditation, has a religious side, since its goal is, in some way, to make
> you one with the universe, which would be the ultimate god-experience. It
> may or may not have much to do with being a religion, but it is religious.
> There is a difference.
> 

1) The effects of TM are several, to find if it has any worth:

   Increased alertness, less tiredness, ability to take on more load of work,
   ease of doing your daily chores so and so forth

   I have met hundreds of meditiators who report these experiences in their
   life.  So TM has to be doing something worthwhile. I have
   have also experimented without doing the practice for comparison.  My
conclusion
   is that it is a powerful technique having a practical value in my
day-to-day 		  
   life.  It is an effortless technique.  It is possible to end up
having a lousy
   day if the practice is not done as instructed, it is better not to practice
   in which case.
  

2) The fact that TM has its origins in the Hindu religions is very true.  The 
   origin of all religions lie in man's quest to know what Truth is. The origin
   of science also lies as its basis our quest to know this Truth.  But we dont
   like to call science a religion.  It is only a matter of terminology. 
   Its value does not change wether it is called a religion or not.  Since
   more blood has been shed by religions through centuries the word religion 
   has received a bad review.  
   


   
        
  



  
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Subject: Re: List/Review of Books about TM and Ayurveda
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:03:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.001559.7324@imagen.com>, avi@seal.imagen.com writes in 
apart:
|> Your quotes SUPPORT my point exactly, that TM is    N O T   a religion.
|> Let me explain why.
|> 
|> When somebody talks about God it doesn't make him religious. Many if not most
|> Western Philosophers throught time (all the way back to Greek philosophy, 
|> possibly even earlier) talked about God, discussing the possibilty or 
|> impossibility of His/Hers existence, and possible attributes if He/She exists.
|> 
|> This does NOT make any of them to be religious, nor does it make their 
|> books a religious text.
A book about god or similar topic is, by my definition, a book about 
religion.  A philosophy which can be accepted only on faith and is blindly
promulgated by a disciplined propaganda system is that same as a religion 
as far as I am concerned.  

Even granting your point, and accepting that "philosophy" is not "religion" 
so long as it either doesn't discuss god or otherwise claims it is not 
religion (an argument only a philosopher or a lawyer could love), that 
still makes my point:
  the supposed "science" supporting TM's claims is  N O T  science, it 
  is religion (or if you prefer "philosophy").  

I can't see why you are so hot to show that TM is a "philosopy" rather
than a religion.  The only difference I can see is that a "religion" has
a favored tax status in many places (of which the TM org. probably avails
itself) and "philosophy" doesn't.  Does the TM organization pay taxes or
not?

-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: ceci@lysator.liu.se (Ceci Henningsson)
Subject: Re: TM is a copy
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Club, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:25:00 GMT

mkfeil@bcrki9.bnr.ca () writes:
>There are many other example of Christian and other writers discussing "this
>manner of prayer". See "The Relaxation Response" by Herbert Benson MD,
>chapter 5.

A book about this is _Silent Music_ by William Johnston, published by
Fountain. Johnston is a Jesuit. He tries to compare Zen meditation,
Christian prayer and scientific research about meditation. At least
the first parts of the book where he really tries to be somewhat
objective are interesting even if you aren't Christian yourself. In
the later part he just praises Christianity and its mystics. There is
a rich bibliography at the end of the book.

>P.S. People: Before posting, please ensure that the information
>content of your article is not zero or negative...

Seconded.
--Ceci (ceci@lysator.liu.se)

--
=====ceci@lysator.liu.se===========================================
Vad bryr vi oss om tsaren, se staren, se staren! EA Karlfeldt
(What do we care about the tsar, see the starling, the starling!)
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Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Subject: Re: List/Review of Books about TM and Ayurveda
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:15:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.163857.12369@aquila.sni-usa.com>, rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal) writes in part:
|> 
|> 1) The effects of TM are several, to find if it has any worth:
|> 
|>    Increased alertness, less tiredness, ability to take on more load of work,
|>    ease of doing your daily chores so and so forth
|> 
|>    I have met hundreds of meditiators who report these experiences in their
|>    life.  So TM has to be doing something worthwhile. I have
|>    have also experimented without doing the practice for comparison.  My
|> conclusion
|>    is that it is a powerful technique having a practical value in my
|> day-to-day 		  
|>    life.  It is an effortless technique.  It is possible to end up
|> having a lousy
|>    day if the practice is not done as instructed, it is better not to practice
|>    in which case.
Obviously this is a limited experiment--if you have meditated a lot, stopping
for a while is not exactly a test of how you would be if you never had 
meditated or stopped for ever.  People get used to lots of things, and
are often uncomfortable when they are removed.  It's called "habituation",
and in exteme cases it's called addiction.  Your experiment may be showing
a habituation effect (you get used to meditating a certain amount), which
is not surprising or dangerous or anything.  This just makes experimenting
with experienced meditators trickier becasue the same "dose" of
meditation could easily have different effect on more experienced
meditators than on a novice.

Not that this is significant, I'm sure you derive some satisfaction and
at least some benefit from meditating.

|>    It is only a matter of terminology. 
|>    [...]  Since
|>    more blood has been shed by religions through centuries the word religion 
|>    has received a bad review.  
This is contradictory.  It is not the "word" religion that has caused blood
shed, it is the practice and/or belief or religion that has.  Organizations
that operate just exactly like religious organizations are subject to the
same bad reviews whether they are called a "religion" or not.

Labelling something "not a religion" does not eliminate the "bad stuff" 
that goes with religious practice and belief, especially: blind folowing and 
intolerence of others.   (There are many good aspects of religious
practice and belief that may reduce bloodshed.)

As religions go, the TM movement is not too bad--they are pretty tolerant
of others and generally non-violent.  The big worry is that they are
evolving toward a serious committment to "blind following" of the
teachings of the TM organization, which combined with increased activities
in secular politics and commerce is a recipe for big trouble.

-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
From: thdyc@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Howard Dyckoff)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Ayurveda
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:18:44 GMT
Followup-To: Notes on Ayurveda and TM....

****  Usual disclaimers apply   ******


I have spent some time in India studying Ayurveda and have a few
books on the subject.  Its not related to TM at all.  rather, the 
TM organizations are using it for its merits for their community and
as a means of attracting people to their movement. 

According to tradition, Ayurveda is sacred knowledge and as such
there should be no charge for its teaching.... only commitment
to its arts.  Whjile Yoga a meditation were orignally part of 
Ayurveda, they are traditional separated, with the emphsis falling
on diagnosis and herbal therapies.
From: gupta@uts.amdahl.com (Ajay Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Looking for places ?????
Keywords: search
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:05:42 GMT
Reply-To: gupta@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: One World


 Could any one point the places in the bay area for meditation based on 
 their personal experience. Please send email at the above address.
 Thanks.
From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: alt.rodney-king
Subject: license unrevoked--what gives?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:58:55 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

How does this guy keep getting his drivers license back, after all
those drunk driving violations? What if he was to run over someone's 
child during one of those high-speed chases?
-- 
	"Were his solid black square paintings really,
	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
From: jray@panther.csb (Janice Ray, URSP, LHC, NLM)
Newsgroups: alt.rodney-king
Subject: Re: who IS this rodney king fella????
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:42:27 GMT
Reply-To: jray@panther.csb
Organization: National Library of Medicine

In article 8958@uoft02.utoledo.edu, dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu () writes:
>is he the brother of larry king?
>
>get it?????
>
>
>har har har


NOT!

har har har


Janice
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.list,alt.internet.services,comp.misc
From: eric@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Eric Majani)
Subject: Internet access wanted, (310) area code
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:21:59 GMT

I am looking for Internet access with a 2400 baud modem, in the (310) area
code (213 would be fine too). I know there is something called nixpub,
but do not know where to find it. Thanks for your help.

-Eric Majani
From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Problems running boards with controversial stuff? 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:44:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: What organization???


In article <-hgmhph@lynx.unm.edu> cslewis@vesta.unm.edu writes:

  > who operate BBS's which deal with controversial things (hacker
  > stuff, adult material, far-out politics...)

  > Have you encountered any legal harassment?  Or have the feds mellowed
  > out and learned something since Operation Sun Devil?
Are you living in a free country, or what? (Or is this still the middle ages?
If so, please wake me up in 1992...)

Adult material is controversial? I know that many christians consider adult
material as 'evil'. But why do they not simply limit their children's freedom
instead of limiting someone else's freedom? It's THEIR decision to breed their
children in a christian way, so it's THEIR responsibility to do it that way,
and not someone else's. If they are affraid of nude BBSes, then they should get
a lock on their modem.

Why not close down USENET? I mean, a (rich?) 14 year old boy can receive the
alt.sex newsgroups, can't he? Who is going to check the age of all USENETters?

Sorry, this has nothing to do about BBSes and maybe this belongs to
soc.human.rights. But then, the original posting doesn't belong in Europe
either... <sigh>

Greetings,
Peter Busser
---
I don't do .sigs

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: cc192@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris K. Barnes)
Subject: Re: TRADEWARS 2002 v1.03
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:25:12 GMT


They are definately on Fidonet.
Version 1.03 is the latest.
They have three lines now 832-2888 is the new number.
-- 
From Lawrence KS, Home of the Jayhawks and,
Quantrill's Raid BBS 913-843-2115
From: "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: performance problems
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:48:09 EST
Reply-To: "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

-> My question is, what can I do to get uploads to work faster?  One
-> obvious thing would be to set the DCE speed lower than the DTE speed
-> (e.g. 9600 bps), but I'd rather not throttle my download speed.  Is
-> it a feature of the zmodem that comes with Telix?  Is there a better
-> package I can get reasonably cheap?


You don't say what systems you are calling, but Telix should be
fine for bbs communication.  Be sure you have CTS/RTS flow
control ON, and baud-rate-adjust OFF in BOTH Telix and the Zoom.
You should always dial out at the highest (DTE) speed supported
by your modem/comm program/serial I/O.

Very slow uploads are usually a symptom of no CTS/RTS flow
control, or a brain-deal UART (which shouldn't be a problem
with your internal modem).


Brian Miller     | brian.miller@channel1.com
Channel 1        * 617-354-3230 V.32bis
617-864-0100     | #338 Cambridge MA 02238
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