HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Subject: Indian in weightlifting (from rso)
Reply-To: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:38:29 GMT

Taken fron rec.sport.olympics. See #10 below.

----------------------------------------------------
Barcelona Olympics - Weightlifting
Sunday July 26 1991 - Day 1 - 52 Kg Final

All wights are in Kg. (1 kg. = 2.2 lbs.)
Nat = Nationality
Sn. = Snatch
C&J = Clean and Jerk
Tot = Total

=====================================================
    Name                Nat.    Sn.     C&J     Tot.
-----------------------------------------------------
 1. Ivan Ivanov         BUL     115.0   150.0   265.0   <=== Gold
 2. Lin Qisheng         CHN     115.0   147.5   262.5   <=== Silver
 3. Traian Ciharean     ROM     112.5   140.0   252.5   <=== Bronze
 4. Ko Kwang-Ku         KOR     112.5   140.0   252.5
 5. Halil Mutlu         TUR     112.5   135.0   247.5
 6. Gil Nam Su          PRK     100.0   135.0   235.0
 7. Humberto Rodriguez  VEN     100.0   130.0   230.0
 8. Jose Puig           ESP     100.0   127.5   227.5
 9. Atsushi Irei        JPN     100.0   122.5   222.5
10. Badathala Adisekar  IND      97.5   125.0   222.5
11. Alvaro Ramos        NCA      95.0   125.0   220.0
12. Asela Wijewickrema  SRI      95.0   117.5   212.5
-----------------------------------------------------
Eliminated:
Zhang Zairong           CHN     115.0
Sevdalin Minchev        BUL     112.5
Hiroshi Watanabe        JPN
Enosh Depthios          INA
Kim Myong Sik           PRK
------------------------------------------------------
Injured:
Genc Barkici            ALB
======================================================

Tomorrow is the 56 Kg. competition
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courtesy : "mack"


Cheers,

-Prince


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MEN of EASTERN origin
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 03:54:10 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: Science and the Doomed
Summary: Science and the Doomed
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Ms S.,  

My condolences to your bereaved friends and relatives. Although I suspect
that they might be more content with life than U are.

>As it now stands INDIA and other similar cultures are doomed .  They MAY 
>scientifically progress but that does not speak much for the humanitarian 
>nature of a country.

No culture is doomed if it progresses scientifically. Scientific progress
leads to power. Power corrupts and certain pockets of society lose. Your
adopted (?) materialistic society is no higher on the 'humanitarian' ladder 
than ours.

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: ravi@photonics.usc.edu (Ravi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sai-Bajan
Date: 28 Jul 1992 22:05:52 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: photonics.usc.edu

I am interested to know whether there is any place in LA where 
the Sai Bajan is conducted. If so, please give me the time, day and
the details of the place. Since I am located at Univ. of Southern Calif.
I would appreciate receiving details of such bajans in the nearby places.
Thanks in advance.
Sai Ram.
My Mail :
Dr. RAVI                                   Phone : 213-740-4330 (Off.)
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University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0241.


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From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Lawyers !!
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:09:51 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <8ePgr1K00VAwMKeEQn@andrew.cmu.edu> ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes:
>
>
>The latest Economist gives these figures for lawyers/100,000 population.
>
>At the top of the list is Pakistan ! (508.4 lawyers/100,000 pop.)

Not surprising that lawyers are not respected at all in Pakistan.
A dulha-bhai of mine (who is also a lawyer in Pakistan) says that it 
is relatively very easy to become a lawyer over there. And he says
it is a corrupt life so he actually has got a 'parchun' shop and
does cases on the side.

waseem
-- 
Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:    (416) 922 1937 
SCO Canada                                        email: waseems@sco.com 
Toronto, Canada                                        uunet!sco!waseems
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From: mk49+@andrew.cmu.edu (Milind Kandlikar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Citizen babies
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:58:48 GMT
	<2158@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com>
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In article laura@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com writes........
> the amendment would have gone
>through more consideration, and revision, perhaps resulting in the
>fixing of obvious mistakes like granting automatic citizenship to
>illegal aliens' U.S.-born babies.
>I see nothing wrong with acknowledging it, and correctly
>ratifying it today -- and to fix the problems it does create, like
>illegal immigrants being able to have babies here, who are automatically
>U.S. citizens.

Sounds like a fascist message dressed in the cloak of historical fact.
No,  I do not see the "obviousness " of the "mistake". I do not see why
children of "illegal" immigrants should be treated any differently than
those of "legal" ones. The only reason I can imagine is that the babies
are mostly from a diferrent race, and poor. 
Also, as far as I can tell much of the occupation of the land of what is
now the United States is historically illegal. Time after time the U.S.
Govt. broke treaties with the Native Americans and grabbed their land.
If you want to look at historical fact then look at it completely.
Perhaps, it will give you sense of how the definition of "legal" has
evolved to suit the repressive staus quo. And perhaps, maybe, you will
look at your own history, before you try to brand other human beings as
"illegal"
From: sarkar@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Nilanjan Sarkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: West Bengal: Communists out, ? in
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:55:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: General Robotics and Active Sensory Perception(GRASP) Lab,
              University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul23.173453.23182@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>>Your note in the first place was an exercise in futulity, and you knew  
>>that very well.  It is another instance of Bengali pseudo-intellectualism.  
>>We want to do a lot of things, but we know we are uncapable of achieving  
>>most of them, because we are unwilling to make the needed sacrifice and I  
>>think that it is nothing unusual. Most of us are torn between the need for  
>>a financially smooth and apparently luxurious life and the sublime urge to  
>>acknowledge our social responsibility. 
>>I would like to know, what you are doing in order to start the so called  
                        --------------------------------------------------
>>'movement'? If one person at a time is the basis of your concept, let it
  -----------  
>>start from you.--- Aditi 


>Yes of course. I am booking the first flight out of this country, right
                -------------------------------------------------
>after graduation.
>Arindam


And then, the 'movement' will start automatically ?!
Or, your going back to India is the 'movement' ?

-Nilanjan
From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Cermony.
Date: 26 Jul 1992 12:07:42 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I also happenned to hear what was said when the Central African Republic 
contingent was on screen - the commentators immediately started talking about
Bokassa and his cannibalism - that is clearly no claim to fame for any country.
NBC commentators displayed a National Inquirer type mentality here. I'd 
dismiss them as a bunch of bozos - remember Bud Collins during the Wimbeldon
finals. ---- Boran Goran the Croatian Croaker. But then that's what people like
Bud Collins and Oprah Winfrey get paid for - to display an IQ of 45.
  There's another idiot I've seen a couple of times on probably a PBS channel -
a cuisine programme - while on Indian cuisine he said "The Indian flag has 
three colours - white for the Hindus, green for the Muslims and orange for
prosperity." Another bloomer :"Indian women wear 'bindis' on their forehead
as an indication of their caste". I found this person particularly obnoxious
because he was'nt your average American undergrad who'd when you tell him
you're from India, say "Isn't that in Africa?". This guy was trying to portray
the image of an intelligent bloke with sensitivity for other cultures.
  All I can say is - This is America, folks!!!

Sudhama
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Family values and the West.
Keywords: Marriage, Family, Industrial, West.
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:07:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <1992Jul28.202200.21248@Firewall.Nielsen.Com> mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota) writes:
>In article <3654@randvax.rand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>>I don't think the U.S. government is anywhere near perfect.  They've
>>done many evil things, including putting my mother-in-law in a
>>concentration camp because of her ancestry.  But despite all the wrong
>>things the U.S. government has done, I wouldn't trade the U.S. system
>>for any other.  I'd rather stay here and try to fix it.
>>
>>		-Ed Hall
>>		edhall@rand.org
>
>
>My last posting in reply, Ed. Somehow, you have stripped the humor out
>of me. Anyway, can you elaborate about the concentration
>camp business, if you care, if it has no propaganda value, if it
>is rooted in some reality? 

Sure.  My wife is third-generation Japanese-American.  Her mother
spent World War Two in a U.S. Government camp in Jerome, Arkansas;
she was a teenager at the time.  My wife's father joined the U.S.
Army, and wound up in the Military Intelligence Service like many
(several thousand) second-generation Japanese-American men with
Japanese language fluency.  So he avoided the camps.

I think that all Asians and Asian Americans should be aware of this
history.  One cannot say for certain something like it will never
happen again.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha)
Subject: Re: What is life?
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:54:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.180947.11132@octel.com> mallya@octel.com (Satyanarayana Mallya) writes:
>As a aside, I heard this during a harikatha(for nonkannadigas: it is a public
>discourse/narration on tales about krishna) in a community park. While most of 
>it was in kannada, he told the following quotes in english. 
>
> Life is a love                      love it
> Life is a play                      play it
> Life is a gift                      Gift it
> Life is a song                      Song it
>
>	Most of those assembled were awestruck by his fluency in english! His 
>english aside, he was a great narrator of bhagwad gita and mahabharat. Gawd,how
>I wish I could listen to him again.
>
>
>						Satya Mallya

   In the underground magazine of MIT, Manipal, someone (Uknowwho) had
   modified this into;
 
  1. Life is green - smoke it

   ..and so on. Remember the rest?

 Arun Simha
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Max Born
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:00:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

To those who were really suspicious about my comment that Max Born was in
India at IISc and later returned back to England. Please see:

 Max Born," My Life: recollections of a Nobel Laureate ", Schribner, New York,
 U.S.A: 1978. (ISBN: 0684156628), 304 pages.

(There is a special chapter, at the end of the book, which describes his 
 relations with C.V.Raman. It's interesting to know that Werner Rainer Hisenberg
 actually failed his Ph.D oral, and, Sommerfeld - his thesis advisor fought with
 the examiner to give him just a passing grade.)

 Next, time just swallow what I say, or, go to hell :-)

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nas_ng@geds01.jsc.nasa.gov. (Naga Ganesan)
Subject: Books on Art of Tamilnadu
Organization: G.E. Government Services
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:24:25 GMT






 The following is an elementary list of books on Tamilnadu

1) C. Sivaramamurt1, South Indian Bronzes, 1963
2) C. Sivaramamurti, Four Chola Temples (This is a book on Tanjore,
Gangaikonda Cholapuram, Darasuram, Tribhuvanam, the prime examples
of Chola architecture)
3) C. Sivaramamurti, Natarja in Art, Thought and Literature, 1974
3a) S. R. Balasurahmanyam, Early Chola Art
4) S. R. Balasurahmanyam, Early Chola Temples
5) S. R. Balasurahmanyam, Middle Chola Temples
6) S. R. Balasurahmanyam, Late Chola Temples
7) R. Nagaswamy, Art and Culture of Tamilnadu
8) R. Nagaswamy, Art of Tamil Nadu
9) R. Nagaswamy, Tantrism in South India (On Sakti Worship)
10) R. Nagaswamy, Siva Bhakti (Excellent work on Appar)
11) Vidya Dehejia, Slaves of the Lord (On 63 Tamil Saints 
from Periya puranam and Alvars)
12) Vidya Dehejia, Namakkal Caves, Dept. of Archaeology,
1968
13) Vidya Dehejia, Art of the Imperial Cholas, Columbia Univ.press
14) Francois L'Hernault, Iconography of Subrahmanya, Pondichery
15) P. R. Srinivasan, F. Gros, Tiruvannamalai, Pondichery,
2 v., 1991
16) I. Job Thomas, Tiruvenkadu Bronzes
17) Michael W. Meister, Encyclopaedia of Indian Temple
Architecture, Lower Dravidadesa, Univ. of Pennsylvania press.
18) D. Dayalan, Early Temples of Tamilnadu, Delhi, 1991
19) Nanditha Krishna, Arts and Crafts of Tamilnadu, Ahmedabad, 1991
20) Books by T. N. Ramachandran, K. R. Srinivasan, Douglas Barrett,
James C. Harle, K. S. Ramachandran, Jean Filliozat and many others .......



TAMIL:

1) To. Mu. Paskarat ToNTaimaaN's books
2) Ki. Vaa. Ja., VaarunkaL Paarkkalaam
3) Ve. Narayanaswamy, tamilaka aRputa aalayankaL,
narmata patippakam
4) Ve. Narayanaswamy, ciRappumikka aalayankaL,
maNivaacakar nuulakam, citamparam
5) Iraa. KalaikkOvan's excellent books
6) Dept. of Archaeolgy's books on different sites
like tirumazapaaTi, tiruvaaruur, kuTumiyaa malai,
tiruveLLaRai, kazhukumalai, panamalai ....
7) ca. taNTapaaNi tEcikar, ATavallaaN
8) ca. taNTapaaNi tEcikar, kaNapati
and some more.



I have collected about 16000 bibliographic items
on the culturescape of Tamilnadu. One day, I can
collect the materials relating to art, architecture,
bronzes, coins, and publish it


N. Ganesan
nas_ng@gese03.jsc.nasa.gov
From: shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Rapists on the payroll of CPI(M).
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:43:09
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Austin, CS Dept.
Distribution: na
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In-reply-to: me@comstore.uark.edu's message of Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:48:22 GMT


>>>>> In article <1992Jul21.144822.21157@engr.uark.edu>, me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account) writes:

AS> I would like to say that the Calcutta Police department should immediately  
AS> conduct a public trial of the criminals and they should be given life  
AS> imprisonment without bail.  That in turn will increase public confidence  
AS> in the system, and at the same time help to depoliticize the system to  
AS> some extent. What is so painful about the entire incidence is the  fact  
AS> that one is forced to think that the society as a whole is spineless,  
AS> corrupt and impotent to do anything.  And this society consists of all of  
AS> us, our brothers, fathers, uncles, sisters and mothers. -- Aditi Sen

Yes!  We Bengalees are a bunch of coward impotents who can only dream of 
our intellectual superiority in the past.  Yes!  The current society IS 
spineless.  The youth - most of them either work for Congress(I) or CPI(M). 
Realize this and face the truth.  This is not coming just in the wake of 
this horrible rape.  I am tired of watching many of my friends wasting 
precious time over such party politics.  CPI(M) or no CPI(M) - the situation
now is equally bad - because this corruption, this laziness have grown deep
into the blood and marrow of our society.  

And Aditi for heaven's sake, DON'T daydream of a a public trial - forget
it.  How long have you been in Calcutta?  Aren't you aware of police 
corruption?   And in case, it turns out that these hooligans are in fact, 
CPI(M) cadres, then there is no way anyone could touch them. 

-Shubu


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: National Integration Songs *****
From: gramanat@uceng.UC.EDU (Ganapathiraman  Ramanath)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:27:39 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati


Hi Guys!

	Can anybody give me the lyrics of the following song(s)?

	Or

	Can you forward this request to somebody who could?


	Thanks in Advance.


	1. Saare Jahaan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara...

	2. Jai Jan Bhaarat Jan Man Abhimat Jan Gan Tantra Vidhaata...

	3. Yeh Waqt Ki Aawaaz Hai Milke Chalo, Zindagi Ka Raaz hai..

	4. Aakash Ganga Surya Chandra Taara, Sandhya Usha....(Gujarati)

	5. Jai Jai He Bhagwati Sur Bharati Tava Charanam Pranamaamaha..


Ramanath

E-Mail : gramanat@uceng.uc.edu
Phone  : (513)-651-0242

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy [part 2]
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:40:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.053914.1225@reed.edu> vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.002814.4533@ecl.psu.edu> l1z@ecl.psu.edu writes:
>
>>to take some measures to correct wrong doings. 
>>
>>				    A group of international students
>>				    at Pennsylvania State University
>
>	If you have a grouse or a complaint be bold enough
>to atleast reveal your names. Mud slinging under the guise
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>of anonymity never builds credibility. Who are these group
>of international students? does your opinion reflect most
>of the international students viewpoints? Are you all primarily
>from one or two ethnic groups?  if you care to answer all these
>questions, then perhaps we can discuss what comes next.
>
>Till then Ciao
>
>peace
>
>
>The Phoenix
^^^^^^^^^^^^ >
>-- 
>  The Greatest burden in the world is to have              The Phoenix
>   a great potential.                                      Reed #252
>                     Linus from "Peanuts"                  Reed College
>                                                         Portland, OR-97202

	And I'm sure The Phoenix is really your name.  If I were really
interested in knowing your name, I would finger you.  If you wanted to
know who the above people are, you could probably finger the poster and
then proceed from there.  This reminds of a story about a prostitute, a bunch
of people who wanted to kill her with rocks and someone who told the mob
to back off...

-- 
T. H. Brian Chung                      | IRC nick: Idaho
Internet: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu   | You can find me sitting at my desk
Bitnet: jfe@cornella                   | drinking Earl Grey tea.
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From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:31:52 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora) writes:

>Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.indian: 24-Jul-92 Re: Regarding
>RAW-Mossad Ne.. by Bapa Rao@pollux.usc.edu 

>> neighbor's house. Only the naive would imagine that Mossad,
>> once invited in, would confine its activities to serving
>> India's goals in a disinterested fashion, or allow its
>> activities to be controlled by RAW. There have been enough 
>> scandals about the infiltration of Indian military and civilian
>> intelligence services by Western intelligence agencies. It

Before getting paranoid about west, think about motives. Does Israel
have any enmity with India? About the only motive I can think of is
that Israel is just reserving an IOU from India. India may be useful
to Israel someday in neutralizing Pakistan's A-bomb. There too India
is not obliged to help. The fact that Israelis are in general well
disposed towards Indians/India inspite of decades of anti-Israeli
rhetoric is probably a mystery to you paranoid types.

Even about infiltration by Western intelligence agencies, does "the
West" have any enmity with India? Though in past, India used to jump
queue to get in front of any West-bashing contest. Rightly or wrongly,
the west doesn't perceive India as a threat. That it infiltrated Indian
agencies in past was primarily to gather intelligence on the Soviets.
Rightly or wrongly, the west and especially Israel considers a lot of
Muslim world (not Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc) as an actual
or potential unfriendly countries. So, they may choose to cooperate
with Indian intelligence agencies. No reason to be paranoid about it.

India-vs-West/Israel is nowhere close to frog-snake.

Sumitro
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From: vijbal@auto-trol.com (Vijay Balasubramanian)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.kerala (r.f.d. kinda thing)
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation, Denver, CO-80241
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:35:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.202442.28545@ennews.eas.asu.edu> surender@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sudeep Surender) writes:
>>
>	I am for the following. Would love to discuss the Mohan Lal
>	and Mammuty movies without being heckled by the Northies.

Sudeep,

You always did not like northies.

>
>						Sudeep Surender
>
>
Vijay
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