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From: jansen@syd.dit.csiro.au (bob jansen)
Subject: Re: New Problems in IJCAI Reviewing (long)
Reply-To: jansen@syd.dit.csiro.au (bob jansen)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:48:55 GMT

Brian,

I think you are stirring up a hornet's nest, but your argument is convincing. 
I agree with removing the author's names from the paper, even though I also 
agree that you can usually make it out from the content, but at least until 
you have read it you can not be infuences by the author, being either friend 
or enemy.

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address until September 1993
INRIA, Domain de Voleceau - Rocquencourt,
BP105 78153 le Chesnay Cedex, France
email: jansen@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU  phone (+33 1) 39635720   fax (+33 1) 39635330

normal address
Program Manager - Knowledge Based Systems
CSIRO, Division of Information Technology
PO Box 1599, NORTH RYDE, NSW 2113, AUSTRALIA
email: jansen@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU 	phone: +61 2 8879489 fax: +61 2 8887787
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From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: book on AI with C++
Keywords: book ai c++
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:02:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Okay, neither of these books is centered on AI, but goes into AI
material as a secondary issue:

"The Tao of Objects"
by Gary Entsminger
published by M&T Books (a publisher I highly recommend)

This one is concerned with understanding OOP, and uses C++ and Turbo Pascal
(yes, Turbo Pascal has OO-extensions) as the vehicle.  The book makes
some foray into chaos theory (a little), and builds a neural net
system, susxxx using concepts presentsed in the book on OOP. 

The next book is actually on using C++ to do interfaces and some 
database work, but the author goes into expert systems a little.

""Object 
"Object-Oriented Environment in C++"
by David Hu
published by MIS: Press

Neither of these is what I'd consider an AI book, but if C++ is your
thing, they may help.
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From: parsons@doc.bmd.trw.com (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells,comp.ai
Subject: What shell of knowedge base system???????
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:00:35 MST
Reply-To: mark_parsons@oz.bmd.trw.com
Organization: TRW Ballistic Missiles Division

I am currently looking for an expert shell or knowledge base system
that will work for a broad application domain.  The platforms I will be 
working with are PCs running DOS & MS Windows, Workstations (Sparc & SGI), 
Mac, and DEC VAX running VMS.

I need a very good user interface or at least the tools and hooks to 
develop one.

I would like to be able to completely embed the expert system into other
applications.

There is a potential for very large complexed knowledge bases.

The price, in theory, should not be relevant.  I am looking for the best
products. 

Are there any suggestions?
Where are they available (company name, etc.)?
Why are they good or bad?

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Mark Parsons			|	TRW Ballistic Missile Division
mark_parsons@oz.bmd.trw.com	|	1104 Country Hills Drive
(801) 625-8092			|	Ogden, Utah 84403 USA

     I speek only for myself, and I don't always agree with that.
From: bestenld@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:01:18 CET
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
Subject: Announcement of A.S.A.P (A Simple Approach to Problems)

 ASAP (A Simple Approach to Problems) is an easy-to-use knowledge
 acquisition tool that automatically generates consultable
 expert systems.

 ASAP is tailored for classification type expert systems like
 diagnostic, help desks, selection, disposition systems or
 process control.

 ASAP contains two knowledge editors:
 - A Graphical editor, allows design decision trees in an easy
   way on the screen
 - A Textual editor, that allows to enter the knowledge as
   "knowledge pieces", e.g. as possible causes of fault in
   a diagnostic system.
 Both editors can be used  for developing the same knowledge base.
 A translator converts the KB from on editors knowledge model
 to the other's.

 The ASAP Development environment generates a knowledge base,
 that is interpreted by the ASAP Runtime environment.
 The Runtime environment
 - contains the Inference engine
 - the user dialog screens
 - interfaces for external routines (e.g. database access)
 - Trace, Undo and Redo functions
 - is available in different versions:
   + as a C-written stand alone module
   + as TIRS module (TIRS = The Integrated Reasoning Shell - IBM
     Programm Product)
   + Other runtime version in any other AI or procedural Languages
     can be developed, as the ASAP KB format is open (e.g.
     a PROLOG Runtime version is under development).

 ASAP can easily be integrated into other software environments.

 It can integrate Pictures as explanations and has interfaces, that
 makes it easy to integrate Multimedia functions, as movies or sound.

 It runs under OS/2 2.0 (the Beta version also runs under OS/2 1.3).

 ASAP has been developed by the KBS groups of IBM Vimercate/Italy,
 IBM Sindelfingen/Germany and IBM Santa Theresa Lab/CA USA.

 The ASAP Beta Version is available. The Beta Test runs until March 93.
 It involves IBM selected customers in that Beta Test.

 If you want more information on ASAP, send us a note incl. your
 Fax or mailing address.
 If you are interested in participating in the Beta Test, please
 tell us.




 Dietmar Bestenlehner
 IBM Germany  Sindelfingen Plant     PHONE: 49-12-4103  FAX: 49-12-4161
 CIM IM Manufacturing Concepts     IBMMAIL: DEIBMPVZ at IBMMAIL
 Knowledge Based Systems            BITNET: BESTENLD@vnet.bitnet
 Dep.6244  Adr.7030-62            INTERNET: BESTENLD@vnet.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: brian@galileo.jsc.nasa.gov (Brian Donnell)
Subject: New CLIPS Help Desk Phone #
Organization: NASA/JSC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:38:00 GMT

It is: (713) 286-8919

Brian Donnell
NASA/JSC

Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells
From: vsvankay@acs.ucalgary.ca (Hima Sagar- The Humming Bird)
Subject: CLips- AMAP software whereabouts ?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:38:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Keywords: CLIPS-AMAP, ftp address
Followup-To: comp.ai.shells


Hi,

In response to my query for 'clips', archie comes up with the host
arbor.prc.unisys.com . 

clips-amap is listed as available under /pub for anonymous ftp. 

Problem is, I could not find it. There is no such directory or file.

Is it moved ? Where can I find it now ?

Any info will be very very helpful.

Thanx in advance. Please email to vankay@enel.ucalgary.ca. I will
summarize, if necessary.


cheers,
Vidya.



-- 



Vidya 'Hima' Sagar 
Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells,comp.ai
From: jin@ece.scarolina.edu (Jin Kee)
Subject: Re: What shell of knowedge base system???????
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:46:53 GMT

The best knowledge base shell, I think, is the Eclipse, the 
product of The Haley Enterprise. Eclipse has similar syntax of 
Clips and can run under DOS, Windows, and Unix. Within Eclipse,
you can have Case-based Reasoner, Dynamic Data Exchange, 
interfaces for C, C++ and Pascal and can naccess to dBase. 

From my experience, it is better than ART-IM, Kappa, OPS/83.

Jin Kee
jin@ece.scarolina.edu
(803) 777 -0196 (voice)

Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: marcel@ADS.COM (Marcel Schoppers)
Subject: Re: New Problems in IJCAI Reviewing (long)
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415)960-7300
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:10:50 GMT


Once upon a time, when I was still a student, I was talking with people who
were well-known in AI.  Perceiving the consequences of their inability to
devote equal attention to everything they "ought" to be monitoring, I said,

	"The truth value you assign to a grounded, non-indexical
	 statement depends on who the speaker is"

and I was ignored.  Coincidentally, about a week later, a visitor to the lab
gave a talk to the same set of people, in which he said,

	"The truth value you assign to a grounded, non-indexical
	 statement depends on who the speaker is"

and the audience thought it Very Good.

Seeing this as proof of my statement made a week earlier, I sent a message to
some of those same people in the lab in which I said, 

	I said: "The truth value you assign to a grounded, non-indexical
	statement depends on who the speaker is," and was ignored.
	He said: "The truth value you assign to a grounded, non-indexical
	statement depends on who the speaker is," and was believed.
	Therefore I was right, and furthermore, I said it first.

and the answer I got was "Smart-ass."

Of course, in retrospect I see that I simply made a statement and did not
carefully argue my case for a whole hour.  That may have had something to do
with it.  ;-)

But in general, I think it wrong to publish something from a well-known person,
just because s/he has built up credibility, that would be regarded as of
doubtful value when coming from someone else.  A case in point is the paper by
Stuart Russell on page 15 of IJCAI '91, which I bring up because the situation
was quite public, with Mr. Russell as an innocent bystander. I vividly remember
Mr. Russell, at the beginning of his talk, telling the audience that one of
the written reviews had said that the rewiever was suspicious of the paper's
value and was recommending it for acceptance only because of Mr. Russell's
credentials, when Mr. Russell himself was actually in doubt about the paper's
usefulness and was wanting the IJCAI reviewers to decide.  I thought it
shocking, not only that a reviewer had such a bias so unashamedly, but that a
large part of the audience failed to see the bias and regarded the situation
as funny.  Although I have since read the paper several times and do not
disagree with the decision to publish it, I still think that that reviewer's
bias was reprehensible.

	I continue to believe that good reviewing is a learned skill, and
	that reviewers ought to be accountable and punishable for their
	mistakes, as opposed to a scheme of things in which reviewers are
	untrained and untouchable.

Marcel


Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: nakashim@etl.go.jp (Hideyuki Nakashima)
Subject: Re: discussion with Penrose
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:08:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.160050.9104@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU (Matthew L. Ginsberg) writes:

   1.  Penrose believes that his belief in mathematical sentences is
   special; there is something qualitatively different about his belief
   that e**(i pi) = -1, for example, than his belief that he has a stomach
   ache.

   2.  Penrose believes that strong AI (the claim that a Turing machine
   can pass the Turing test, for example) is false.

   3.  Penrose believes that (1) implies (2), and that the proof is
   basically as outlined in his book.

   I think Penrose is right about (3), but wrong about (1) (and therefore
   unjustified in concluding (2)).

If (2) and (3) are correct, then there exists a Tuting test which will
distinguish the belief states described in (1).  Applying the test to
Matt and Penrose, it can be found which of you are correct.

But since both of you agreed on

   that neither of us had any hope of
   changing the other's views on (1),

it can be concluded that (1) is wrong (by assuming (2) and (3)) :-)

--
Hideyuki Nakashima
Cooperative Architecture
Electrotechincal Lab.
From: sef@sef-pmax.slisp.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Natural Language newsgroup
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:20:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C1HFEE.DBn.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


    From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
    
       We have a few more suggestions for names....

There is an established procedure for creating newsgroups, including a
period of dicussion about names, charter, and so on, followed by a vote.
Please follow that procedure and don't try to carry out the whole process
here.  It will just have to be done over.  This procedure exists, in part,
to keep the whole net from being choked with messages from random guys who
think a new newsgroup would be cool.  This generates a lot more traffic
than most of us want to see.

-- Scott

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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Natural Language newsgroup
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:07:24 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: harmonic.eng.umd.edu
Originator: clin@harmonic.eng.umd.edu


    One more thing.   I had been thinking that since comp.ai is not
exactly the hotbed of NL postings (as someone pointed out last year),
a new newsgroup for NL, might be forum where we could get some people
in NL to post, perhaps summary articles outlining the history of NL,
and the current state of research.   We might then investigate
different locations which do work in NL, and decide basically
who's doing what, where NL is headed.   That way, those who want
to work in NL (moi) can get an idea of what the field is like.

    Furthermore, we can add discussions of certain papers to the
newsgroup, in a sort of seminar-like format.  Of course, that would
require permission from those who have written the papers.   It would
be nice to archive the material somewhere, as well.

    These are some of the ideas I have been playing with.  If you have
others, e-mail or post.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: pat@cs.strath.ac.uk (Patrick Prosser)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: New Problems in IJCAI Reviewing (long)
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:12:05 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

>Surely, it is up to a reviewer to send back any paper to an editor 
>when the reviewer feels he/she cannot referee that paper
>without bias towards/against the author; the latter in a situation where
>the work the paper reports is in direct competetion with that of the reviewer.

>Hyacinth Nwana 

Surely, in that case, no paper could be competently reviewed. If
you are an expert in the field, and the paper is in the same area,
then there must be some element of competition.


Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: ferrante@world.std.com (Richard D Ferrante)
Subject: Re: Multiple Intelligent Agents
Keywords: agents, cooperation
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:57:49 GMT

One good collection of papers is
Readings in Distributed Artificial Intelligence ;by Bond & Gasser
Morgan Kaufmann Publishers, Inc.
San Mateo, Ca.

--- 

Richard Ferrante
(617)-254-5451
ferrante@world.std.com
    
-- 
--- 

Richard Ferrante
(617)-254-5451
From: sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com (Fred Welden)
Subject: Re: Computer writes a book? WHY?
Originator: sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:33:20 GMT
Organization: Dobonia


In article <1993Jan27.151317.2997@seas.smu.edu>, pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen) writes:
|In regards to why we would want a computer to write a book...
|
|The computer really isn't writing the book. It's the programmer who writes
|the program that writes the book. Despite all appearances computing is
|a human enterprise and such a book would reflect the sensibilities of
|the programmer and not the computer.
|
|It's a different way to think about writing a book. Don't write the
|book, write the program that writes the book. Is it a good approach?
|Maybe. Maybe not. We'll see.
|
|Clearly there are authors who use very formulaic (is that a word?)
|approaches. The open question is "Is it possible to render such a formula
|in a form advantageous to computing?" The even bigger question is "Is
|it possible to write a program that does more than follow a formula?
|(ie exhibit signs of Artificial Intelligence)". Worth investing? From
|a Computer Science point of view? Yes. From a literary point of view?
|Maybe.

So you've added authors to the list of folks who might have good reasons
to create a program that writes books.  The question I asked (and I
can't tell from your headers whether you're responding to me or not) was
why would PUBLISHERS want such a thing?

-- 
--Fred, or another blind 8th-century BC  |  sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com
        Hellenic poet of the same name.  |
Newsgroups: comp.ai,rec.arts.books,misc.writing,rec.arts.int-fiction
From: amead@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Alan Mead)
Subject: Re: Computer writes a book?
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:07:18 GMT

max@west.darkside.com (Erik Max Francis) writes:

>          There are at least two obvious ways to get a computer to 
>"write" prose; both involve the scanning or analysis of another text.  
>One involves Markov chains, and the other involves a phonetic dictionary. 
>[...]

Not too long ago (perhaps in an AI book by Peat), I read an account of
research attempting to get a program to understand stories.  The best
example was a program that read incoming UPI or UPS stories and
summarized them.  As I recall, it worked fairly well.

This would seem to be the neccessary leap before a computer were to
write a story.  I think the above two methods are really only good for
generating sentences.

For example, take the Doug Adams _Hitchhiker_ series.  His emphasis on
coincidence might lead you to think that his stories are somehow more
"random" and would be easier to generate by computer.  But I don't
think anything could be farther from the truth; much of his humor is in
providing a new fact that sheds just the right light on some old bit so
that you see it in some new and funny way.  That kind of thing takes
careful planning and intelligence.  I think Hemmingway's short stories
would be similarly difficult.  You could generate all kinds of
Hemmingway-esqe sentences, but one of his strengths was in telling 95%
of the story (and knowing which 5% to leave out).

I suspect that the original poster's book was, if not entirely written
by a human, written with the mere aid of software.  I could imagine a
program that changed the wording and maybe even the grammer of a
sentence to reflect another writer's style.

Of course, if a computer was involved at all, that would imply that
they had a large amount of Susann's work in electronic form (in order
to anaylize it).  Is that likely?

-alan
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: rjb@allegra.att.com (Ron Brachman)
Subject: Re: Frawley or P-Shapiro
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:48:00 GMT
	<1993Jan20.200631.11415@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

Try gps0@gte.com for Gregory.

--
Ron Brachman
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Murray Hill, NJ  07974
rjb@research.att.com
From: pat@cs.strath.ac.uk (Patrick Prosser)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: CFP - KB planning, scheduling and control
Keywords: TABU search
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:20:49 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.


The following references for TABU search

(1)Fred Glover, "Tabu search methods in AI and OR", ORSA AI Newsletter 1:2,6, 1987
(2)Fred Glover, "Tabu Search - Part 1" ORSA Journal on Computing, 1(3) 190-206, 1989
Newsgroups: comp.ai
From: hovig@cs.uiuc.edu (Hovig Heghinian)
Subject: Re: book on AI with C++
Keywords: book ai c++
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:19:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.220106.19348@eos.arc.nasa.gov> kessel@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Karen Kessel) writes:
>This note is for those of you who wrote me asking about
>a book on AI for C++.  Well, since no one could recommend
>one, there apparently is none.
[ ... ]
>Oh well, maybe we should write one ourselves?

No ... have the computer do it.  =)

Hovig
Newsgroups: comp.ai

I am looking for a prolog compiler that will run on the PC, under MSWindows
and provides a Microsoft C interace. Ideally, I would like to run the 
prolog program as a DLL.
Does anyone know of such a compiler.
Any pointers/suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appeciated. 
	       Thanks in advance.
				       Sujatha

PS: This information is needed quite urgently

Xref: sparky comp.ai:5003 rec.arts.books:26270 misc.writing:4262 rec.arts.int-fiction:1269
From: frankenp@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Paul Frankenstein  )
Newsgroups: comp.ai,rec.arts.books,misc.writing,rec.arts.int-fiction
Subject: Re: Computer writes a book?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:42:09 GMT
Organization: x=(x^2)+C

In article <1993Jan25.163029.1901@seas.smu.edu> pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen) writes:
* 
* I saw the following in the Books column (by Olin Chism) of the Dallas
* Morning News Sunday January 24, 1993. Copied without permission. It
* concerns a computer program that allegedly wrote a book in the style
* of Jacqueline Susann. 

[stuff taken out]

* -----------------------------------------------------------------------
* 
*      "Birch Lane Press of New York says that Scott French, a
* free-lance writer and computer consultant from California, invested
* eight years and $50,000 to develop a computer program that writes like
* Jaqueline Susann. Mr. French's electronic novelist has output Just
* This Once, a 256 page sizzler that Birch Lane will publish next
* summer."

[rest of article deleted]

* ---       
* * Ted Pedersen                                  pedersen@seas.smu.edu * 
* * Department of Computer Science and Engineering,                     *
* * Southern Methodist University, Dallas, TX 75275      (214) 768-2126 *

I remember hearing something like this a while back; it might have been in
the SF Chronicle (for some reason, I associate it with one of my vists to the
Bay area). However, the name Scott French does check out (in memory, at 
least); he wrote a how-to book back in the mid-seventies called "The Big
Brother Book." It was something along the lines of the Anarchist's Cookbook,
showing you how to pick locks, build bugs, etc, etc. (Although I don't remember
anything about building bombs in it.)

The book might be legit; but then again, it might not...

paul
--
frankenp@gas.uug.arizona.edu
"Bagels are great for backpacking."
	-- Mike Cottingham
From: giovanni@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Giovanni S Capriglione)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Cells...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:23:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Hey!
	I am C programmer(no OOPS just ansi)... And for a while now i have been considering writing a program about cells...
 The goal is to write a compiler/interpreter type language which will alow the
following:

a) the ability to set up "cells" (merely structures)
b) these cells will have switches and ports and an individual "gene-code" (a 
string)
c) the programmer will place these cells(each of which will perform different
functions dependant on their type) in "place"

The goal is to combine cells so that they can in unison perform a function ,
such as a physics law or such... Eventually you will make a bunch of these 
organized cells;say Newtons 1,2&3 as an environment whereby objects will 
perform accordingly.

The question: what language should i do this in?
Ansi C is wonderful but if there is another language that would handle this 
better Id like to know about it.... giovanni@WPI.wpi.edu

-- 
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| an itty bitty sig   /
| giovanni@WPI.wpi.edu\
======================/
From: uucp@eu.net (uucp)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: TEST
Keywords: TEST
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:40:14 GMT
Organization: European Unix systems User Group

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