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From:         FB23@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
Subject:      Re: CD drive cases

You may want to take a look through Computer Shopper.  Various case
manufacturers advertise there, and there are loads of ads from retailers
that handle PC cases.  I have seen several that hold 8 drives with a removable
cover over the bottom 4.

I used to see the 8 drive cases used by one of the major CD-ROM server
vendors at a PC parts house in Dallas.  If you have a number of parts dealers
in your town, or somewhere nearby, you may want to check them out.

How about adapting 4 drive cases, such as those used with the original IBM/PC
and XT.  You should be able to get these VERY cheaply and chaining should be
no big deal.  Ventilation should be adequate and you can use the built-in
power supply (upgrade to at least a 150w supply if the box you are using is
an original PC).

Finally, a few years ago, "super" tower cases (low cost) were the rage and
there were a few that had large numbers of exposed open bays.  You may be
able to pick up one of these at a used PC/parts outlet.

If you use a used or cheap box, be sure to make sure that the power supply is
adequate to the task.  A cheap or marginal power supply can lead to real
headaches, and high-quality replacement supplies are fairly inexpensive.

Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
Networking and Microcomputer Resources
University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

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From:         Theodore.Morris@UC.EDU
Subject: RE: Connecting Macs to a

Re: the new capabilities of the latest SCSI Express product being
shown:

Just wondering--Does this imply that an MS-DOS user running
SilverPlatter's search interface for MS-DOS and a Mac user running the
SilverPlatter search interface for Macs can access the -same- disk?
Any idea what bibliographic database publishers/vendors out there are
offering the ability to search the same disk/disk-format from their
different supported platforms' search software?

Ted Morris
University of Cincinnati Medical Center
morrista@uc.edu
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I would like to know if it is possible to provide dial access to a
videodisc optical disk.  I am posting this query on behalf of a colleague
and would greatly appreciate any information.

Thanks,
Dereck Brassington
215-645-4273
brassing@vuvaxcom.bitnet
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Comments:     Originally-From: lettej@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Lette Jean)
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      read many write many CD Roms

Dear Mr Lester,

I apologize for sending this request to you. Would you be so kind as to post
it on your CD Rom forum.



Hello !

I have to equip 4 PCs with mass storage devices with read many write man
capabilities (I work in the nuclear medicine department of a hospital).
The Sony magneto-optical disk systems are expensive and so are the disks.
If there any read many write many CD Rom System on the market or
is there any coming out soon. The CD Rom system would have the additional
advantage of being versatible in terms of being able to read
CD Roms (such as encyclopedias) in addition to being used for mass storage.

Thank you for your help,


Jean Lette MD
Nuclear Cardiology Division
Montreal Heart Institute
internet: lettej@ere.umontreal.ca
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From:         ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: RE: Connecting Macs

To: CDROMLAN POSTINGS

>You've painted a pretty picture but there are a few details missing. If
IPX is the protocol used (I suspect it >is since it's a Novell server) from
all these platforms, then none of the above can get to the server. The
>examples used are (my perception) very common configurations in the
networked world. In our case >approximately 1/3 - 1/2 of our users rely on
the examples I gave. Many of the rest *could* load Novell >software but a
large number don't and would prefer to avoid it if they could.

Novell talks many protocols. The UNIX clients talk  to the Novell
fileserver using TCP/IP.  MAC clients use  AppleTalk to talk to the Novell
fileserver.  OS/2 and DOS use IPX to talk to the Novell file server.  ALL
these protocols can coexist on the same wire.

Currently inhouse we have this exact configuration running with DOS, OS/2,
MAC, and UNIX clients all sharring the same Novell fileserver, and
accessing shared CD-ROMS.

>If there is a way (simple I hope) that these users can connect I would
like to hear about it. Are there >servers that handle IP and IPX users
concurrently?

Yes, Novell.

- Arnold Jones
Micro Design International, Inc.
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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From:         RICHARD HARRIS <HARRIS@EVMSVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Optinet & MSCDEX

Replying to the following query related to my posting on MSCDEX and
Optinet:
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Date:  Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:07:53 -0600
From: shaoyun@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shaoyun Wang)
Subject: Optinet & MSCDEX

Hi,

I have read your mail about FMARK, RELEASE and DRVOFF. Where can I get these
softwares?

Shaoyun
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We got FMARK & RELEASE by anonymous ftp from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil.  It
was in directory PD1:<MSDOS.SYSUTL>, with filename TSRCOM34.ZIP.

There are other ftp sources for these utilities, such as wuarchive.wustl.edu,
etc.

We got DRVOFF from the following book:

Schulman, Andrew.
     Undocumented DOS (with disk). -- New York : Addison Wesley, 1990.

ISBN 0-201-57064-5  91-92 BIP price (paper) $44.95

Hope this is useful,

Richard Harris, Systems Coordinator,
Eastern Virginia Medical School Library
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              "Theodore.Morris@UC.EDU" at Nov 17, 92 11:58 am

Sure hope this is the case and I can't see why it isn't.  So far as
vendors go, I know Compact Disclosure, some SP products, and the SSCI
are available with Mac interfaces.  We haven't really investigated any
others because it hasn't been a practical option.  There are a bunch
of Mac labs on campus, so we're really looking forward to being able to
support them.

Steven Kirby
University of Georgia
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu
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From:         mech@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG
Subject:      RE: CD drive cases

  Dear Charles,

     Yes, there is a company that makes Cd-rom cases, up to 7 or I guess as
many as you specify.  Their name is Todd Enterprises.  I'm sorry that I do not
have their address with me.  Maybe someone else can supply it for you.  They
are a good company and have good support, and products.
   Hope this helps.

Jennifer Walz
Asst. Ref. Lib.
King's College Lib.
Wilkes-Barre, PA
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:58:47 GMT Will Estes said:
>Has anyone had any experiences using the Pioneer DM-600 CD-ROM that
>holds 6 CD-ROMSs?  Is it worth the investment?
>
  They are fine little boxes on a standalone machine.  You probably do NOT
want them on a network, due to physical thrashing problems.

   Current price from mailorder ads I get every couple weeks are $949.

dan

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From:         Steven Ploof <Steve.Ploof@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD drive cases

>Is there a company which manufactures/sells cases which hold, supply
>power to, and vent 8 or more CD drives, without also housing a
>processor?  That is, can you buy a CD case as a peripheral, not as a
>server?
>
>Chas. McFadden
>chuck@ches.cs.vims.edu


 CBIS can provide this.


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From: koppi@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Jeffrey Alan Koppi)
Subject: Re: Connecting Macs
Keywords:  Mac, IPX, Novell
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:55:40 GMT


I heard Novell Inc. is working on a set of APIs called MacIPX.
This will allow Macintosh developers to write applications that
create and send IPX packets over a novell LAN to an optical server.

Has anyone heard of this?  Are there any developers out there 
working on connecting Macs to CDRom servers...

Jeff Koppi
koppi@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu





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Subject:      Please Delete My Subscription

quit cdrom-lan
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From:         Mr David J Gardiner <d.j.gardiner@STIRLING.AC.UK>
Subject:      external users (fwd)

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From djg2@stirling.ac.uk Thu Nov 19 14:46 GMT 1992
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To: djg2@stirling.ac.uk (Mr David J Gardiner)
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From: Mr David J Gardiner <djg2@stirling.ac.uk>
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Does anyone have any ideas on how to prevent external users
(ie non-members of the University) using networked CDs? Our library is open to
the general public, but their use of some of our CDs would appear to
contravene our academic discount licences.
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From:         Teo Kirkinen <kirkinen@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      Re: Installing a new network
              Nov 18, 92 01:22:05 pm

> Is anyone using the Netware Access Server to give users access to their
> CDROMs? If so, how does it perform and what problems have you had?

We have just started using the Netware Access Server. It works
reasonable well but there is still some problems:

- NAS hangs quite often (several times a week).

- It is quite difficult to get enough free DOS memory for all the
CD-ROM search software to work. We are now using NAS with VIDRAM.COM
which let us to load device drivers in the memory addresses used by
the video memory in graphics modes.

I undestand that there are no better alternative to NAS in the same
price range.

Teo K.
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From:         Frank Norman <f-norman@NIMR.MRC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Current Contents on a network

I fully concur with earlier comments re. CCOD over a network: it has quite
obviously NOT been designed as a network product, although it does work on a
network.

We offer our users three options:

1) Use it on their own PC over the network.  This is the ideal situation but
means they have to contribute to the network licence.  This is expensive,
especially if you're talking about the version with abstracts.

2) Use it on the PC in the library with the CC3.INI (initialization) file on
a floppy.

3) Use it on the PC in the library using the default initialization file.

The initialization file does not really hugely affect the casual user.  The
main things it controls are access to stored search profiles, search results
and the "Personal Interest Checklist" of marked articles.  These are mostly
used by dedicated regular users, and these are the people who are more
prepared to fiddle about putting their own floppy disk in and running the
program from that.  We haven't had any complaints about the program running
too slowly off a floppy.

IMHO, the multi-issue searching feature is only marginally useful.  I was
expecting much more of this feature, but it is inflexible and slow.  It
should be incorporated into the main body of the program but given ISI's
record to date on improving the program I guess we can wait another two
years for that to happen (:-(

Your Director of Libraries must be really fearless to be considering a site
licence.  A CDROMLAN correspondent back in August reported that he was
unable to negotiate a price under $30,00 p.a. for a licence for up to 20
users for four different subject editions of CCOD.  I find their prices
excessive.


Frank Norman
Deputy Librarian

National Institute for Medical Research
The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, London NW7 1AA, United Kingdom

tel + (44) 81 959 3666 ext 2380
fax + (44) 81 906 4477

Email (Janet): f-norman@uk.ac.mrc.nimr
From: hrood@TENET.EDU (Harriet A. Rood)
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We are getting ready to network a new library.  At this point, although it
is not written in stone, we are planning to use Macintoshes in our lab and
MSDOS machines at our lookup stations with all running from a MSDOS server
and using Novell with Ethernet and twisted cabling.  Does anyone out there
have a similar setup or any pros or cons.  Every time I think our
"experts" have the answer, someone comes along with a "yes, but..."
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From:         Steve Morytko <STEVE@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: RE: Connecting Macs to a
              16 Nov 1992 18:49:49 EST from <ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:49:49 EST <ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM> said:
>This week at the COMDEX show in Las Vegas Micro Design is annoucing support
>for MAC CD-ROMS (ISO-9660) through their standard SCSI Express for NetWare
>product.
>
>With a Novell file server running SCSI Express you can now have DOS, OS/2,
>UNIX, and MAC workstations all accessing CD-ROMs located on the server.
>For more information contact our sales office at 407-677-8333.
>
What protocol (IP, IPX, ...) do the workstations use to connect to the server?
Can I get a Mac on a Localtalk network behind a router (Gatorbox, Shiva)
connected? How about a pc or SUN behind an IP router (where IPX is not routed)?
How about all those potential users on the Internet (an IP network) that I
want to share the CD-ROM's with - can they get there too?

You've painted a pretty picture but there are a few details missing. If IPX
is the protocol used (I suspect it is since it's a Novell server) from all
these platforms, then none of the above can get to the server.
The examples used are (my perception) very common configurations in the
networked world. In our case approximately 1/3 - 1/2 of our users rely on
the examples I gave. Many of the rest *could* load Novell software but a
large number don't and would prefer to avoid it if they could.

If there is a way (simple I hope) that these users can connect I would like
to hear about it. Are there servers that handle IP and IPX users concurrently?

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We do have one printer in place using Vendacards for public access printing.
Most of our public printers are text-only dot-matrix and we do not charge
for printing on these.  However, we do have a standalone UMI ABI/Inform
setup (the full product, with images).  If someone wants the text of an
article, they print it on a dot-matrix printer at no charge.  If they want
an image of the article (photocopy equivalent), they can print it on an
attached Canon laser printer by using the copy card.  It appears to work
quite well, at least in our one, limited use setting.
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From:         WERTHMULLER@SIENA.BITNET
Subject:      MACs is the Library

Does anyone have/use Modern Language Bibliograhpy for the MAC and on the
MAC ? If so, it would be nice to know where you purchased the CD-ROM
set .
Thanks in advance.

Derek R. Werthmuller
Werthmuller@Siena.Bitnet
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Date: 16 Nov 92 22:44:23 GMT
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              16 Nov 1992 11:23:38 PST from <rensing@EMDS.ENET.DEC.COM>

Please unsubscribe me....thanks
From: NP180003@BROWNVM.BITNET (Norman Desmarais)
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Norm, I searched the table of contents of all 1991 issues of CD-ROM Librarian
(on CARL UNCOVER) but couldn't find anything that looked like the right
article.  If you can find the citation and post it I (and I'm sure others)
would be grateful.  Thanks,

John Hoover
Systems Librarian
Hawaii Medical Library
jhoover@uhunix.bitnet


the article I was thinking about appeared in the Jan. 1991 issue of CD-ROM Libr
arian. It was authored by David Wilkinson and entitled Public CD-ROM Workstatio
n Security: Contexts of Risk and Appropriate Responses (pp. 20-25).  On p. 25 ,
 he mentions using Copicard to limit excessive printing.
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Infotrac problems

Hiya,
One partial answer is to chaenge
nge the shell statment to say C:\
If it can't find your COMMAND.COM then the system is confused about
where it is located.

Where do you have your COMSPEC set tog
 ??  It must  n
be set to the same path
as in your SHELL statment in CONFIG.SYS

as in your SHELL statment in CONFIG.SYS

Dave
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As I'm only on #175 out of 465 mail messages which came in while I was out
these last few weeks, I'm not sure if any one else has answered your question
on the ability for Macs to access a CD-server yet.  So I'll just offer this;
the InfoServer 150 from Digital now supports access directly from Macintosh
systems as well as VAX, ULTRIX, PATHWORKS, Novell, and other DOS systems.
All that's needed is the purchase of the Macintosh client kit which installs
on your Mac system and enables that system to recognize data coming over
from the InfoServer.

This is actually quite an interesting way of offering Mac access.  You'd be
using the same CD-readers that are attached to the server to serve Mac-format
CDs as well as DOS or other format CDs.  No need to purchase different
types of drives or drivers.  I've played around quite a bit with the Mac
client software, and it's got all those wonderful Macintosh characteristics,
simplicity, point and click, pictures, etc.

Regards,
Dale Rensing
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