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From: patterjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeffrey D Patterson)
Subject: Re: The Rapture
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:17:24 GMT


In article <tmcfarla.712432853@sfu.ca> tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara  
McFarlane) writes:
> has anyone else out there seen this movie? from what i had heard  
previously
> i thought this movie was prochristian or at least an honest attempt to 
> portray the life of a fundamentalist christian, which it is somewhat.
> however, i was surprised and delighted when in the end it turned out to  
be      strongly humanistic if not a slight bit anti-christian. so don't  
be put
> off by the subject matter if you were wary of being preached to for a  
little 
> over an hour. this isn't the billy graham crusade by another name.

Yeah, I thought this movie was very thought provoking!  I interpetted the  
movie as anti christian, but I can see how someone might intepret it as  
pro christian.  I think the movie has some classic examples of irony and  
hyprocrasy (sp?)  I didn't want to put any spoilers in here, but I would  
be happy to discuss this great movie with anyone.  It is not just a movie  
to be watched, but also discussed.  i highly recommend it.
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From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Subject: Re: Help
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:03:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies

In article <14apjnINNcnj@agate.berkeley.edu>, max@ocf.berkeley.edu (Fude
Max Chuang) wrote:
> 
> Well, my last attempt at posting failed miserably, so here goes
> again.  I was wonderingg if anyone has seen the Charlie Sheen movie
> where he has this really cool black car, and when other cars hit it
> they blow up.  He goes around getting revenge or something.
> 
> No one I know has been able to identify this, so if any movie gurus
> out there have seen this, please post the title.  Thanks in advance.

It was called "Wraith".

It should have been called "Tripe".

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
From: mallan@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Matthew Allan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:39:29 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

DM> Does anyone know how to go back and read the previous articles about Naked
DM> Lunch on here or any back articles posted?  I saw the movie the other day,
DM> and now I really want to go back and read through them.  Thanks!
DM> 

As an even more helpful suggestion, could someone help me figure out this movie. I've seen it 3 times now, and I'm still having problems understanding what exactly is happening. 
 Is the film one giant hallucination?

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                             The Psychadelic <yber<hrist
Organization: Junior, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:23:20 -0400 
From: Christopher Moore Leone <cl2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Vampire's Kiss (SPOILERS)
Distribution: world

In article <l6m2phINNr4j@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, primeaux@duncan.cs.utk.edu
(David Primeaux) writes:

>I just saw Vampire's Kiss (with Nicholas Cage).
>I doubt that it really classifies as a cult film
>in most people's mind, but this is the best group
>I could think of to ask about:
> 
>1)  The box for the video proclaimed it as a comedy.
>    Other than Cage's relentlessly campy portrayal 
>    of his character, (and his constantly changing
>    accents) I didn't see anything funny  -- sorry,
>    forgot about the teeth bit;  that *was* funny.


    Oh, man, Vampire's Kiss is a genius flick IMO.  Nick Cage is
hilarious.  All the scenes with the office girl, Alva (Maria Conchita
Alonzo)?  In one scene, he says something to the effect of: "I can give
you any job I want, Alva...and you HAVE to do it..."  Or when he
captures the pigeon in the park and slinks back to his apartment to
devour it?  Genius!

>I think that a theme of the movie might well be
>the developing madness of Cage's character -- 
>rather than the developing vampire-ness of that
>person....

Well, that's the basic plot, right?  Rotten bastard goes insane, thinks
he's a vampire.  The film makes it clear that he's insane, and not
actually becoming a vampire.  His increasing "vampireness" is the sign
of his insanity.

>          ...On this level,  I 
>don't think the movie was about the vampires in the 
>traditional sense of the living dead which walk the
>earth seeking blood, but rather as the personal
>"demons" which can infest and overtake our minds,
>changing and destroying us.

Friend of mine suggested that Lowe's "demon" is vampirism because of
some lecherous tendency in his own personality.  I think it's evident in
the way he picks up women, uses them, and ditches them: like the girl he
leaves in the art gallery, for example. 

>    ...In this light, even the superficially
>humourous episodes in the film as less funny than
>sad, and perhaps frightening....

That's precisely why I loved this film.  I found it hilarious, but
ultimately creepy and dark, as well as sad when Lowe dies.  

Incidentally, I read that the writer of Vampire's Kiss--don't know the
name-- also wrote After Hours, another great flick.  I can see some
similarities in tone, etc.  

--Christopher

*** "oh alexander i see you beneath the archway of aerodynamics" ***
From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Comments on Vampire's Kiss???? *SPOILER ALERT!*
Date: 22 Jul 1992 08:18:37 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

I found Vampire's Kiss to be quite awkward, and not very involving...
It got better at the end (With his full-blown psychosis), and the scene
where he's imagining talking to his psychiatrist, who absolves him for
his rape and murder, was very funny... But other than that, the movie
didn't really go anywhere, and thankfully ended... 
Nic Cage gave a really bizarre performance, so unconventional to make
me think he was on drugs while acting (since his character never really
made sense).

--Peter M.
From: andy@meefun.autodesk.com (Andrew Purshottam)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Brother From Another Planet....
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:14:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Autodesk Inc.
In-reply-to: crawford@cs.uchicago.edu's message of 29 Jul 92 19:22:07 GMT

And the fantastically cheap "special effects:" 
* aliens detect other aliens by leaning against a wall and screaming,
* the hero connects with a video game by holding his hand on it. A red
light shines on his face.
* Best of all is the opening spaceship crash scene, where the spaceship
interior looks like a fancy stereo reflected in a pyrex mixing bowl!
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"The views expressed are those of the speaker."
From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blues Brothers
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:28:55 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

"Eh, these are just requests." (Throws away list.) "Play a regular set."
-- 
	"Were his solid black square paintings really,
	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
From: Number_2@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Number 2)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: ED II now Evil Dead III
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:37:07 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

I just bought a shooting script of this movie at a recent convention. (No,
I'm not going to type it in and mail it to everybody.) This movie in gonna
be absolutely unbelievable. I've been rolling on the floor reading parts of
the script. 

And the magic words to stop the bat-Necronomicon are
"Klaatu....barata....necktie......um no, nectar.....um, KLATUU BARADA
NECKahrmm" (As Ash mumbles the last word."

Moo
Frank Branham

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Frank Branham   Number_2@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us   
Sysop of the Village BBS - (404) 641-7819   "We want information!"
And always seeking more vampires in the Atlanta Area.
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: don't look now
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:01:22 GMT
Organization: Loose Affiliation of Millionaires and Billionaires and Baby

IRWIN JULIE R writes:
>
>Had anyone seen "Don't look now" with Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie??
>It's one of those movies that sticks with you-- I'm still trying to
>figure it out.  I liked it, but feel the need to talk about it in
>case I missed something.
>
>Any "Don't Look Now" experts out there? 
>
>
(Don't Look Now....Spoilers)


Not an expert.

Very sexy movie, I remember. At the time, I thought that the
entire movie was supposed to take place inside the head of 
the Julie Christie character...that the final outcome was
just a revenge fantasy: she blamed Donald Sutherland for the
death of her child etc. But that's just a dumbo elaboration
that doesn't really add anything. I can't pin down any
moral or summation line about it: it's a boo! kind of movie 
at bottom. 

I liked it a lot and wish I could find it on video. It seems
a natural, too, for a cable channel like Bravo but not so far.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Older than before.
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From: castong@eos.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: Blade Runner
Originator: castong@c00386-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Blade Runner
Reply-To: castong@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:29:35 GMT


In article <1992Jul21.182716.20901@ncsu.edu>, castong@eos.ncsu.edu writes:

|>Hey all of you Blade Runner fans out there!
|>
|>I've got some good news and some bad news.
|>
|>The GOOD news is that Blade Runner will be re-released to theaters
|>sometime in the middle of September.
|>
|>The BAD news is that it's a new version.  I don't mean a total remake.
|>What they did was take the original working footage and re-edit it. The
|>result is a different movie.  I haven't heard a whole lot about it but a
|>few changes include: no narration (originally done by Ford himself),
|>different cuts between scenes that change the plot somewhat and a different
|>ending (not so happy).  And worst of all, new music (sans Vangelis I
|>think).  Well I don't want to be to pessimistic; I haven't seen it yet.
|>Maybe it will be good. If anyone has heard anything else let me know.
|>
|>
|>
|>Chuck
|>


I'm sorry if my sarcasm did not show through.  I'm definitely going to
see it (probably several times) when it comes out.  Oh, by the way, I
have seen three different LaserDiscs of BladeRunner in stores. There is
the regular first one, a newer one with letterbox and extra footage that
wasn't in the theater, and the Criterion Edition.  I was wondering if
the Criterion Edition has the few extra minutes that the first one doesn't.
thanx

Chuck
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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner
Keywords: Blade Runner
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:39:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.182716.20901@ncsu.edu> castong@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
>
>Hey all of you Blade Runner fans out there!
>
>I've got some good news and some bad news.
>
>The GOOD news is that Blade Runner will be re-released to theaters
>sometime in the middle of September.
>
>The BAD news is that it's a new version.

Gee, I though this *was* the good news. At least it is for most of
the "Blade Runner" fans out there.

>I don't mean a total remake. What they did was take the original working
>footage and re-edit it. The result is a different movie.

Right -- the one Ridley Scott wants us to see.

>I haven't heard a whole lot about it but a few changes include: no
>narration (originally done by Ford himself), different cuts between
>scenes that change the plot somewhat and a different ending (not so
>happy).

Right. A preliminary version (actually a working cut) was shown this
Spring in California, and got a LOT of business.

>And worst of all, new music (sans Vangelis I think).

This would be a shame. Hopefully the score is simply being reworked by
Vangelis (or perhaps the score he originally intended will be used).

>Well I don't want to be to pessimistic; I haven't seen it yet.
>Maybe it will be good. If anyone has heard anything else let me know.

We've been discussing and waiting for this thing for probably a year
now (maybe more). With any luck it will finally hit the theaters.

                                           -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:17:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.172935.1087@ncsu.edu>, castong@eos.ncsu.edu writes...

} Oh, by the way, I have seen three different LaserDiscs of BladeRunner
} in stores. There is the regular first one, a newer one with letterbox
} and extra footage that wasn't in the theater, and the Criterion Edition.
} I was wondering if the Criterion Edition has the few extra minutes that
} the first one doesn't.

Ah...the "letterbox and extra footage" edition *IS* the Criterion edition.
There are, however, two Criterion editions: the CLV format one, which is
just the movie, and the CAV edition, which has some interesting, but not
especially worthwhile, supplementary sections.

The extra few minutes of footage, by the way, have been in the videotape
versions since the movie first hit video. At the time the videotape was
first released (1983 or 84), it was advertised as having the extra
footage, and my Betamax copy certainly had it. So this is really nothing
new.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: mitch@novavax.UUCP (Mitch Silverman)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blues Brothers
Keywords: God whata flick
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:58:37 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@novavax.UUCP (Mitch Silverman)
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, Florida

In article <1992Jul15.202521.480@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> gene@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Gene E. Johannsen) writes:
>garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich) writes:

>>mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:

>>>4 chickens and a coke and dry white toast.

>>>We're on a mission from God.

>>But Ray, there's no action left in these keys!

>It breaks my heart to see a boy that young going bad.

>					Ray

>gene

"The use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers...
has been approved." -  Some dispatcher

Mitchell L. Silverman
Student, New College of the University of South Florida
mitch@cfraix.cfr.usf.edu
mitch@novavax.nova.edu
 
I'd include a disclaimer if I thought anyone cared....
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From: rojrng@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (JARROD NG)
Subject: Re: Fans of really bad movies...
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:12:56 GMT

In article <24JUL199204024624@zeus.tamu.edu> ess3791@zeus.tamu.edu (Storm) writes:
>From: ess3791@zeus.tamu.edu (Storm)
>Subject: Re: Fans of really bad movies...
>Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:02:00 GMT

>In article <1992Jul22.195608.13819@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>,
>ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com writes...
>> 
>>I am curious - how many others will watch just about anything put
>>before them? That's doesn't mean it's not O.K. to laugh, or make
>>fun of the film, but I will watch just about any grade Z movie
>>and *enjoy* it somehow. Do others do this?

>Yes, although the amount of time since I've slept is directly proportional to
>the amount of these movies that I end up watching.

>-Storm

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From: tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane)
Subject: The Rapture
Keywords: rapture christianity humanism
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:00:53 GMT

has anyone else out there seen this movie? from what i had heard previously
i thought this movie was prochristian or at least an honest attempt to 
portray the life of a fundamentalist christian, which it is somewhat.
however, i was surprised and delighted when in the end it turned out to be      strongly humanistic if not a slight bit anti-christian. so don't be put
off by the subject matter if you were wary of being preached to for a little 
over an hour. this isn't the billy graham crusade by another name.
From: djordan@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Danny Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: COOL WORLD!
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:25:43 GMT
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center

In article <geM_o5O00iUz82rhsK@andrew.cmu.edu> sr3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Soren Renner) writes:
>OK, it was just released last week, but it WILL be a cult favorite. 
>I liked the craps-playing bunny. The plot was handled right and the 
>ending was perfect. COOL!

  Finally someone with some taste! I loved Cool World to the max, the
 whole thing was classic Bakshi. And it will go down in cult film
 history. I dunno what my favorite part is, there are too many to
 think of.

   -Danny


--
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= "Swimming in the main stream   = Danny Jordan
= Is such a lame dream"          = djordan@loligo.cc.fsu.edu
=           --Black Flag         =     ***** Jello in '92! ***** 
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From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Evil Dead
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:57:57 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Jul26.181321.19423@wri.com>, andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:
> Just saw Evil Dead II (finally!) and loved it! Does Evil Dead (I) have the  
> same tongue-in-cheek sensibility (and groovy camera work?). I realize it  
> was probably done on a shoestring budget. Can't find it in my local video  
> places. Is it hard to find? What else has Raimi done, besides Darkman? I  
> look forward to seeing Evil Dead III.

Evil Dead has a more serious tone than the sequel.  I would say that
Evil Dead II is the better all-around movie of the two, but the original
is the better straight horror movie.  While Evil Dead does not contain
as much humour as its sequel, there are some wonderfully demented
moments in it; it is well worth searching for a copy.  I have seen
it in several video stores around here, so it shouldn't be too hard
to find where you are - keep looking!

Lorne Epp
epp@mala.bc.ca
From: sao@athena.mit.edu (Andy Oakland)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Can anyone name this movie?
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:02:01 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <Bs66Ap.8pK@news.larc.nasa.gov> alan@hal.larc.nasa.gov (alan dare) writes:
>The main point she recalls is it had children in it that shuffled their feet. 
>If they tried to walk normal my picking up their feet, they could fly or float
>away.

This sounds like the made-for-TV movie based on Zenna Henderson's "The
People" books.  The people were really aliens, stranded on Earth by a
rocket crash, and were trying to pass as an isolated town of humans.

I think Lindsey Wagner (she of "Bionic Woman" fame) played a schoolteacher
sent into the town to teach the children.  Sound familiar?

	:Andy Oakland
	sao@athena.mit.edu
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Batman Returns - forgettable
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:39:05 GMT

In article <GOEPPING.92Jul31093524@msi-s7.msi.umn.edu>  
goepping@msi-s7.msi.umn.edu (Jason Goeppinger [Math]) writes:
> Don't forget Batman et. al are Comic Book Characters.  I guess a lot of
> comic books have to stretch the facts and force situations to get all 
> the action in in a short time.  Keeping this in mind, I was able to 
> dismiss some of the rediculousness of this movie as comic book license 
> and enjoy it better.  

Not true of comics anymore. In the 40's and 50's they were pretty simple  
minded, but since the mid-60's, comics have had fairly well structured  
plots and have always made attempts to square up plot threads. They take  
way less license than either of the Batman films, especially because  
nobody expects a story to be resolved in one issue of a comic book these  
days, and the fanboys are furious critics. You'll find way dumber  
plotlines in movies than comics, especially since most comics writers  
actually want to tell a story, whereas Hollywood seems to have forgotten  
how...

AK

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Subject: Re: Name that film
From: <PMONGEAU@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 17:00:19 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

>
>...It's set in msmall
>town America (arn't they always) and of course there's nothing for the
>kids to do except go to the local youth club, take lots of acid,
>indulge in a bit of vandalism and arson etc. Eventually the parents
>etc get fed up and decide to close the club down. This only
>exacerbates the situation and further widens the generation gap.
>
>The climax has all the parents meeting in the local school to figure
>out what they should do. The kids lock them inside and trash all their
>cars etc. The film's tenor is very anarchic; the end being a sort of
>uprising of the dispossessed against those in power
>
>Thanks for any help, sorry i can't be more specific. Reply direct if
>you wish
>
>Neil
 
Neil, I know the movie you are talking about and GEEZ I can't
remember the name.  I do know that it is at LEAST 10 years old
(it was all over HBO when I first got cable)....maybe 15.  Seems like
one of the brat pack played one of the leads...?  The movie was set
in a new suburb in CA where there was nothing for the kids to do.
Lots of examples of the parents ignoring the kids and the kids doing
various things to get their parent's attention.  The lead (the member
of the brat pack) gets killed by the police and the kids go on the
rampage.....Great bad flick.
 
paul
 
OH WHY CAN'T I REMEMBER THE NAME????
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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Boy and His Dog (Voice of Blood)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:54:04 CDT

This is a reply to a poster who stated that the voice of Blood was performed 
in the film by Jason Robard (accidentally killed the original thread). Sorry,
but the film's credits list Tim McIntire as the lucky winner. Tim is also
credited with performing the song, "Boy and His Dog" which is heard over
the closing credits of the movie. Jason Robard *did* appear in the film as
one of the members of New Topeka's town council. He was the one that kept
intoning, "And may God have mercy on your souls". Hope this clears things
up.

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