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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:26:14 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UC780.BITNET>
Subject:      ref: When Oh When...

>For example though a Vines server is aware of PC/TCP on one of its interfaces
>and TCP Unix box on another, a ping from will not work between them unless the
>path to PC/TCP is specified in TCP Unix box's routing table.  This happens
>regardless of the operation of ICMP, ARP or RARP on the Vines server.

The 1st sentence should be revised as:

..., a ping from one box to the other will not work between them unless the...

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:39:00 PDT
From:         Robertson@SSC.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      great guidebook from FTP Software
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I only can say that the book is rather misnamed.  PC Interoperability Guide,
indeed!  Try FTP product description (after a bit of reasonable explanation of
what TCP/IP is in the first place).

And of course who says interoperability on PCs means TCP/IP in the first
place.  Perhaps PC interoperabiliy means NetWare.  (Just kidding!)  Certainly
just one protocol stack that offers connections to hosts isn't the only aspect
of PC Interoperability that I can think of.  How about application
interoperability?

Nevertheless, a very readable introduction to the value of TCP/IP to an
organization.  Kudos.

But, misnamed!

- Bruce Robertson, Senior Editor, LA Labs
    Network Computing Magazine
    Phone: 310 206-9059
    Internet: robertson@ssc.sscnet.ucla.edu

"My opinions are my own, and anyone else's that I convince."
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From:         "Pat McCormick" <pmccormi@SMTPLINK.UIS.ITD.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Debug command
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Does anyone remember the debug command to invoke the format for a WD
controller in debug?

Pat.McCormick@um.cc.umich.edu
University of Michigan
From: M=Woods%SysAdmin%7CG@DPNET.HQ.AF.MIL
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Subject: TCP/IP
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:59:33 GMT
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Hello everyone!  Have any of you had any problems with the TCP/IP VINES
interface in Ver. 4.11(5)?  Our interface seems to have stopped working since
the upgrade, and we can't get it going again.  When it was at 4.11(1), we had
our Cabletron card set for IP address 134.205.101.34, with a mask of
255.255.255.0 Our VINES interface was set for 134.205.108.1, with the same
 mask.Now, when trying to re-configure it, we can get the VINES interface going
properly, but we loose our SMTP gateway.  If we configure the Cabletron card so
 that the gateway comes up (subnet mask of 255.255.0.0), we can't get the server
 to take the VINES address with the same mask.  When the Cabletron
card is set to 255.255.0.0 and we try to add the VINES interface we get an
error stating "Cannot use subnet/network number of another IP interface", and
if we try to add the VINES interface with a mask of 255.255.255.0 while the
Cabletron interface is set to 255.255.0.0, we get the error "Must use same
mask as other IP interface on this network."  We cannot change the Cabletron
mask to 255.255.255.0 because it causes our SMTP to stop working.  We have
even tried adding a new NIC, and changing the mask on our router to
255.255.255.0.  EVERYTHING we have tried has failed one way or another.  Any
help is GREATLY appreciated!

SrA Mark Woods
7th Comm Gp/LGR
Pentagon, DC 20330
mwoods@lggate2.hq.af.mil
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 08:11:14 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: great guidebook from FTP Software
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Greg,

Though I haven't participated for long on this list, I am tending to believe
it more valuable (to me personally) than Banforum.  I base this on the quicker
responses I see to questions posed.  Plus, this list is considerably less
expensive than Compuserve.

Mike
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:27:11 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UC780.BITNET>
Subject:      When Oh When...

When oh when will - if ever - Banyan support RIP or preferably Open Shortest
Path First (OSPF) in their TCP implementation?

This would allow Vines TCP routers i.e. Vines servers, to automatically know
routes to TCP nodes connected to it.

This obviates the need to constantly update routing tables on various nodes
operating in Vines TCP nets.

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:50:44 EST
From:         Helen Reszegi <D1HCR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Xircom adapters
              14 Apr 1992 15:28:16 EDT from
              <Gregory=Martin%DPNET=Mgt%DP@DPNET.HQ.AF.MIL>

Hello Greg,

      We use Xircom adaptors in many places.  We have a portable that is used f
or trouble-shooting and testing new line installs.  The xircom works great.  I
have had two go bad, but the tech support at Xircom was super.  Within 24 hours
 of my call, a new adaptor was shipped to me.  I also have one user that order
the Xircom multiplexor (allows network and printer to be hooked up at the same
time).  He loves it!!!!

I have only been with the Akron U for one year.  The shop that I came from used
Xircom's on every executives portable.

We are using model PE10BX-32K.  But I have been told this model has been update
d.  I have not checked into the new model.

Good Luck




Helen Reszegi                           HelenReszegi@Uakron.edu
Network Operations                      Phone: (216) 972-5308
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:05:17 EDT
From:         Sandy=OToole%COMPUTER%UMASS@BANYAN.UMMED.EDU
Subject:      re: Meridian CD ROM server
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We have a Meridian cdrom tower on our Banyan network and use netbios for
access.  It works well, with cdrom performance being as fast or faster on the
network than a stand-alone cdrom drive.

We have two main problems, though they are not related to the Meridian tower
itself. One, is that some cdrom applications software has installation
routines designed for non-networked pc's, therefore these installations fail
for a network drive.  This has so far been easily solved by installing to a
local hard drive and copying the software over to a network server.
Two, there is a minimum configuration necessary to use many cdrom
applications - in most cases you need a 286 or 386 with 2 meg RAM, some memory
manager, and about 10 meg free disk space.

Local workstation configuration may be time-consuming in some cases,
especially having enough conventional memory left to run the cdrom
applications.  Some cdrom packages require 450-500k conventional memory
to run; this is tricky with Banyan software, Microsoft CD extensions, and
PCnetbios installed too.  I have read that future cdrom software may be
designed differently and use overlays, expanded or extended memory,
but in the meantime I have experimented with DOS 5.0, QEMM, QRAM, and
Memory Commander.  Also, we are using DOS-server hardware gateways to
accomodate under-configured pc's.

Let me know if you would like more information.

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Reply To:       sotoole@umassmed.UMMED.EDU

                Sandy O'Toole, Network Software Admin.
                Computer Services
                University of Massachusetts Medical Center

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:41:21 CDT
From:         Susan=Beebe%NET%CVM@VETMED.CVM.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Dial-In
X-To:         Banyan-l@akronvm.UAkron.edu

I am trying to set up a dial-in service and I have 2 incoming lines.  One on a
1200 baud hayes modem and the other on a 2400 baud hayes modem.

My problem is when I use a 1200 baud modem on the PC side to dial in and I
call the 2400 baud line....I thought the 2400 modem would "down-shift" to
communicate with the incoming 1200 baud call....but it doesn't...

In configuring the line, I set the modem at the server to 2400

Is there something that I need to do to make the faster modems talk with
slower incoming modems?

Thanks.

Susan Beebe
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

s-beebe@uiuc.edu
217-333-7467
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:10:20 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UC780.BITNET>
Subject:      ref: When Oh When...

The problem with Vines TCP routing that I'd like to see resolved
is that of a Vines server being unable to route between two TCP networks or
subnetworks even though it is aware of both networks or subnetworks.

For example though a Vines server is aware of PC/TCP on one of its interfaces
and TCP Unix box on another, a ping from will not work between them unless the
path to PC/TCP is specified in TCP Unix box's routing table.  This happens
regardless of the operation of ICMP, ARP or RARP on the Vines server.

As I understand it, a full implementation of RIP or OSPF would allow the Vines
server to automatically route between the two boxes above.

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From: jabusch@osiris (John Jabusch)
Subject: Re: Packet drivers for VINES.
Keywords: NE2000, Clarkson Packet Driver, CSIBAN.COM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:53:51 GMT

cwhsu@nevada.csl.dl.nec.com (James Hsu) writes:

>Hello:

>I tried to load BAN.EXE, CSIBAN.COM, and the Clarkson packet driver in order to run the TRUMPET news program, but TRUMPET would not run.  I also made sure that the I/O and interrupt settings on those three commands match.

Did you set up your news.prm file correctly?  That's where Trumpet gets its
information on configuration....
--

John W. Jabusch					US Army Construction
INTERNET: jabusch@cerl.cecer.army.mil    	Engineering Resesarch Lab
MILNET: jabusch@osiris.arpa        		Champaign, IL
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" - Hobbes
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:29:54 PDT
From:         C.=Hanley%IM%SPK@BANYAN.USACE.MIL
Subject:      re: Server and Tape Drives
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

We have used Compaq Systempros since they were put on the market and have been
pleased with their performance.  We are not running VINES SMP yet, however we
do take advantage of the IDA features.

IDA is the intelligent drive array controller that provides disk fault
tolerance on the Systempro.  We have used data guarding (3 drives data/1 drive
parity) but disk mirroring is also available.  Data guarding is slower than
mirroring drives so if fault tolerance is required use drive mirroring.

We actually had 2 drives fail (after moving the Systempros across town) and
this feature saved hours of work.  The system will tell you which drive has
failed.  After the drive is replaced, the Systempro runs in "recovery" mode
and acutally recreates the data on the failed drive.  Users can login and use
the server...it's slower...but it runs.  Besides, you don't have to re-install
vines and wait 2 hours to rebuild your system from backup tape (ugh!).  AFter
the drive has been recreated the server runs normally. A note about the
Systempro...it is very important to keep your ROM revisions current.

One major advantage the Systempro has over most other servers on the market
is multiple processor support.

Dell also has a drive array but it is not yet certified by Banyan.  I called
the 1-800 banyan number and there is no date scheduled for this certification
to be complete.

We may have the opportunity to evaluate a Dell 450SE with a 100 MB IDE
drive as disk 1 and 650 MB SCSI drive as disk 2... and the same computer
configured with disk 2 being four 210 MB drives mirrored to four 210 MB
drives.  I'll keep you posted if we get to do this evaluation.

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Carolyn Hanley, Banyan Lan Admin
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Sacramento, CA
916-557-7035
916-557-7847 (fax)
chanley@usace.mil
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:41:59 CDT
From:         John=Jabusch%ENM%USACERL@AARDVARK.CECER.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: Xircom adapters
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Greg,

We're running a few Xircom adapters here.  Didn't read your note before I left
ABUi, or I'd have had the Xircom reps send you info.  Last time I checked,
they supported all of the 10BASEx series, either via direct connect or via AUI
cable.  We're using the 10BASE2 stuff, with both sets of drivers.  (NDIS and
packet).  The NDIS is slower, and has difficulty in maintaining connections
during high traffic periods.  Not uncommon to get "VINES Files file volume not
available" style error messages.  The packet drivers appear to be much better.

We use these exclusively on notebooks/laptops to get them logged into VINES
and to run all the packet-driver supported stuff.

-john
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:43:27 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      Minimum Mac apparel

Once again - > Hi!

Does anybody know what is the minimum requirement for a mac in terms of
hardware under MAC OS 6.07 to run the Vines Net shell ?

- model
- hd ?
- memory ?

Thanks as always,

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
DSOHIER@CTI.ulaval.ca

- "Viva Las Vegas"   - Elvis.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:13:20 EDT
From:         Gale Boyajian <USERW393@UMICHUM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: ABUi conference
X-To:         BANYAN-L%AKRONVM.BITNET@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU,
              banyan-l@AKRONVM.BITNET

Last I heard Chicago was underwater and in the dark.  To those of you at
ABUi, how are you all managing to get by?
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:59:02 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <COATES@UC780.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Apple loses "look & feel" lawsuit

The reason Apple can't get Microsoft or HP on expression of fundamnetal
concept is that Apple had licensed stuff to them.  Microsoft's and HP's
implementations appear to the court to be covered under license with Apple
or as legitimate extension thereof.

(I don't care how it happens just so long as it happens cheaply on a *big*
scale.  This court decision further opens the way to that happening.)

Computers easier to use, cheaper, more powerful and everywhere!

Raw Windows is not all that easy to use, it takes the pros like us to know it
and than configure it so that it's easy, fun and nice for users.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:59:37 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Packet drivers for VINES.
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

James Hsu,

>I would like to run Clarkson University's packet driver for NE2000 Ethernet
>card.  Currently I have the following:

>- Clarkson University's packet driver for the NE2000 card.
>- CSIBAN.COM in my VINES booting subdirectory
>- BAN.exe in my VINES booting subdirectory

>- VINES's NE2000 driver in my VINES booting subdirectory
You don't need the NEBAN.COM driver (it doesn't hurt it's just dead disk
space) the CSIBAN.COM should be the active Vines driver.

>I tried to load BAN.EXE, CSIBAN.COM, and the Clarkson packet driver in order
>to run the TRUMPET news program, but TRUMPET would not run.  I also made sure
>that the I/O and interrupt settings on those three commands match.

>Does anybody know the correct procedure to set this up?  Thanks in advance.

In PCCONFIG you need to select the Cabletron Packet Driver interface as your
default driver, set the correct interrupt (remember irq 2 is really irq 9 on
AT's and up), and set  "N"  for multi protocol support.

Load then NE2000 packet driver first.  Then load BAN.EXE (which will then
load CSIBAN.COM and REDIRx.EXE automatically).  Login, then run Trumpet.

Remember that although CSIBAN.COM was included in Z:\PCINIT from rev 4.00(5)
you must apply the appropriate Cabletron patch. Rev 4.11 is the only rev
that supports packet drivers without a patch.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:23:17 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      Back to the future

Hello folks,

I'm just back from NeverNever Land,  I just realized the server was exactly 2
hours off everybody.... Any clue?

You got it, after receiving many thousands volts of electro shocks, then only
did I notice my server was in another time zone!  I only had to set it to the
Eastern time zone and that was that.  Sorry to have bothered you with this
bogus problem.

Danny Sohier
Laval University
Dsohier@cti.ulaval.ca
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:16:36 EDT
From:         Bob=Napier%PPU%ETO.DNTCO@VINES.ORNL.GOV
Subject:      re: HP LASERJET III Si
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

The IIISi can be switched between postscript and PCL by inserting the
"switching" codes at the beginning of the print job. Note that SYS SWITCH=ON
must be set from the console for this to occur. We use batch files to control
the printer for duplex, compressed, portrait/landscape, etc. printing.

Also, some apps have the capability built-in....

Bob Napier (rwn@ornl.gov)
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:45:42 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      Environment Variables
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

Is there a good document somewhere on what Vines data may be extracted to a
DOS environment variable (and how).  Thanks.

Mike Crist
TRW Space & Technology Group
Redondo Beach, CA
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:27:30 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@DPNET.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: Does Banyan run on Gateway 486/33 EISA?
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

My Personal Opinion:
   If your network is not going to grow to more than 15 nodes, I
would say that an EISA machine might be overdoing it a bit.  Of
course, this depends on what you plan on doing with your network.

   Our network here at 7th Comm has three servers:  a '486/33,
'386/20 and a '386/33. We support about 150 nodes (200 users).  Our
network stays busy, but not overloaded.  I should say that all but
about 5 of the nodes are on the two '386 machines.

   Getting back to the main part of your question, I'm not sure
about the EISA machine, but the '486 we have here is a Gateway
486/33C.  It's been working fine for the two or so months that we've
had it.



SSgt Robert Stoll
Network Manager
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon, Washington, DC

"To err is human, to moo is bovine" -- unknown
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:13:54 EST
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Banyan-l/Compuserve at ABUI
              10 Apr 1992 11:54:43 CST from <JHCARVER@CREMS.CR.ROCKWELL.COM>

Yes, The Banyan-l/Compuserve get together is at 9:00 pm Sunday April 12.
One minor detail I omitted in my rush to leave for the conference.

I hope to see many of you there.

Shirley Rodgers
ABUI Membership Director
University of Akron
SRodgers@uakron.edu
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