HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ruthm@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Ruth Maas McIlhenny)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Northern Exposure Bi-Sighting (almost)
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:48:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	Did anyone see Northern Exposure last night? (for all those in other
countries who don't get it yet, it's a show about Alaska, and the eccentric
characters :-) ) Chris the DJ starting having fantasies about a supposed
male monk- this really threw Chris off balance, because he had always been
dedicated to women from an early age.  And, off course the monk ( who lived
in silence and solitude) turned out to be a woman.  Typical TV shying away
from anything but the norm.  I for one wanted CHris to be attracted to a
man, and have to deal with being bi, but alas, it is not to be.

Ruth 	   
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH!  Tori on The Tonight Show 1/12
Keywords: tori sexy hot wow
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:51:47 GMT

In article <trussell.726891701@cwis> trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
>    Sorry for the late notice, but for you Tori Amos fans, she'll be on
>the Tonight Show tonight, Tuesday, 1/12 at 11:30 EST.  You can bet I'll
>be glued to the set, and that's definitely a first for me and Jay Leno!  :-)
>
>--
>   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu

Is anyone in the East Coast area taping this?  I got stuck doing a costuming 
assignment and couldn't get to a TV.  BTW, Thanks to those of you who passed
it along to me.  How did you know I liked her?

					Steve L.

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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: general dissatisfaction
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:25:22 GMT

In article <C0Mqy4.H82@news.udel.edu> eowyn@brahms.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes:
>I started responding to Graham's post when the damn thing hung up on me.
>So....
>Thanks for the hugs
>*hugs* back.... *squeeeeeze*  *backrub*
>
>
>Death is really sexy, isn't she?

I'm still waiting to meet her, myself.  The way my life's going it may be
sooner than either of us had planned...
>
>btw---for general knowledge....
>Jim gives really good hugs.  (Thanks, Jim!)

I'll drink to that!!  (And I get to live with him.. nyah, nyah. {well, on the
same floor anyway :)})
>
>Zoe
>(feeling nice and fuzzy after white Zinfandel and Jim's hugs)

Steve
(feeling nice and fuzzy that soc.bi exists and so do the people on it)

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From: winsor@geek. (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexual idenity and community
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:31:24 GMT
Reply-To: winsor@geek. (js)
Organization: Texas Instruments
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan11.173411.23150@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
   In article <1993Jan9.180627.12954@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
   >I've been asked via e-mail to offer my views on this thread, so I may
   >pontificate at some length. But first let me say: IMHO IMHO YMMV YMMV 
   >BYOB RSVP SMTP etc... ;)
   
   Barely had Professor Lunde with trembling voice intoned the words,
   the writing of which was now scarcely legible, masked with fresh blood as
   it was, from the scrap of the grimoire found in the mad Arab's tomb,
   and barely had his shaking hand sketched out in the empurpled air
   of the incense-filled crypt that Sign, known by few and dared to be used
   by yet fewer, than - behold - to the accompaniment of tinkling cymbals
   and madly-piping flutes - a congeries of iridescent vapours, toiled
   into shimmering spheres of infinite and arbitrary-seeming dimensionalities,
   the emblem of the dread Yog-Sothoth!
   
   		Kay (sillier than usual today)
All right.  I'll bite. :-)  what the muck is a Yog*?

john
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The opinions expressed in the above do not reflect those of
my employer, or anybody connected with my employer.  Including me.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:27:05 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Set the WayBack Machine (Coming Out)

In article <C0ozDE.FCo@world.std.com>, smoir@world.std.com (Scott A Moir) says:
>
>In article <16B5213135.SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
>(Silver Tiger) writes:
>[Mom asks THE BIG QUESTION]
>>I drove on, wondering if I'd have trouble explaining a corpse in the
>>back seat of the car at Canadian Customs, and decided to make sure this
>>wasn't the case.  "What, did you die back there or something?" I asked.
>>
>>"Well, it is a bit of a shock..." said the maternal unit, convincing me
>>that she was still in the land of the living, at least mostly.
>>
>>I went on to treat her (and the situation) as if this was a perfectly
>>normal and reasonable revelation, much like "It's nice day", "My but
>>you're tall", or "So this is it, we're going to die."  [ With apologies
>>to Douglas Adams ]  }:]
>>
>>You know what?  It helped immensely.  The fact that I refused to treat
>>this like some deep dark secret, set the tone for her acceptance of this
>>fact.  I told her in the conversation that followed, that she HAD asked
>>me, and I was NOT going to lie to her.
>
>I also found this to be true. I am out to my parents, and I told them up
>front. In later conversations, I found that they felt that this helped as
>well. Now, your mileage may vary, parents are all different. Mine have
>dealt well so far, although they have not yet been presented with the
>image of me walking in with a man on my arm. Soon enough though,, they
>should be meeting Lugh. I'm a bit nervous, but I expect things to go
                   ^^^^
>reasonably well.
>Scott
>--
>Scott Moir  /  Satyr on IRC    ______ # "There's really only one requirement
>smoir@world.std.com            \ \/ / #  for a Prophet, and you've got it."
>B4 f t+ w g k+(+!) s+ m r p+    \/\/  # "What's that?"
>Also: pentangl@ursa-major.spdcc.com   # "A mouth." - 'God' to J.R.'BoB' Dobbsl

Might I be so bold as to suggest that even the most liberal, calm,
and open minded of parents are likely to get a wee bit nervous, if
not reduced to a state of abject and gibbering panic, should it chance
that their darling and beloved child brings home a Celtic solar diety?

If you can get him to crank the corona back so he isn't scorching the
furniture I suspect it will help... :]

Graydon
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   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar)
Subject: Re: Urgent notice!
Keywords: Make up your own.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:05:04 GMT

orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons) writes:

>In article <1r#3q=h@rpi.edu> safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar) writes:
>|Warning!  It has been noted by our professional and tireless staff that not
>|enough fluff has been posted to soc.bi.
>   Compared to _where_?

Platonic ideal of course, isn't that what we're all about? ;)
Or is that the playdough ideal?  Can never remember...

-Points (One _really_ wacked out dragon)
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From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Blatant hug request
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:20:50 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com
Keywords: hugs, support


Here are lots of big hugs for you.

<HUG>  <HUG> <HUG>


It sounds like you are in for a hard time.  It's tough that your
family sounds so homophobic, and that you have to choose between
being open without your family or being closeted with them.

Peggy


Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dsuchy19@calvin.edu (Dawn Suchy)
Subject: Re: A demuffining at last
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:46:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.125718.18766@vpnet.chi.il.us> orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.195824.11417@midway.uchicago.edu> mort@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>|I've been lurking about for the past 4 months or so and finally decided
>|to make a post. So here I am. I figured it was about time to make an
>|appearance.
>
>    (He's rather cute, too.  Well worth sampling, though I'd
>suspect you'd need to take a number and stand in line.)


	*How* on *earth* did I miss my favorite muffin's
	de-muffining??  *grin*....

	Mort...*grin*....  *HUG!*  *HUG!*  *HUG!*

	*smile*

	First muffin i've met in real life before de-muffining,
	too...  *smile*... oh... one more last *HUG!*...

	[shyly]  New Year's was really nice, too....

	dawnelizabeth

-- 
dsuchy19@ursa.calvin.edu

Just the usual.... they don't like what I say, but I say it 
anyway.  :)
From: exchangez@gn.apc.org (Zina Kaye)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: a silly question
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:32:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:93002.225303SAUNDRSG@qucdn.queen:-759144428:gn:1440300002:000:140
Nf-From: gn.UUCP!exchangez    Jan  4 21:32:00 1993


>What does someome turn into when they aren't a muffin any more?

A Current Bun.... }8-% Sorry, can't resist half-baked puns.

Zina Banina
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rowe@engin.umich.edu (Steven Rowe)
Subject: Re: What to do at a bar?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:45:30 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1993Jan12.003832.23661@fuug.fi> an1428@anon.penet.fi writes:
>Hi all!
>  Having never been to a gay bar (or anyother bar of
>this type) I am wondering what to do?
>I know this sounds strange (stupid is a better word),
>but I am much (MUCH) better at picking up girls.

Do you know this for certain, or are you projecting your
doubts into your ability to pick up guys?

>I am going to have to chance to travel around the
>eastern part of the US this summer and would like to
>hear your thoughts on how I should handle going to
>a gay (or bi...is there such a thing?) bar.
>.
>I mean what do I do.....go sit at the bar?

That's what I do.  Or play pinball.

>I know...I know...there is no difference, but hey,
>humor me here...I am a super fresh muffin.

I wouldn't say there's NO difference...
At the gay bars I frequent (in Ann Arbor, MI), the men are mostly
there to get picked up.  A lot of them are there for the company,
but I'd have to say more than half are there for sex.  I find it
a lot easier to pick up a gay man in these circumstances than a het
(or bi) woman who's out at a non-sexual-orientation-labelled bar.
But other than it being easier, there's no difference.

Oh, and belated de-muffining hugs to you...  *hugs*

                            Steve
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: What to do at a bar?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:26:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.003832.23661@fuug.fi> an1428@anon.penet.fi writes:
>  Having never been to a gay bar (or anyother bar of
>this type) I am wondering what to do?
>I know this sounds strange (stupid is a better word),
>but I am much (MUCH) better at picking up girls.
>I am going to have to chance to travel around the
>eastern part of the US this summer and would like to
>hear your thoughts on how I should handle going to
>a gay (or bi...is there such a thing?) bar.
>.
>I mean what do I do.....go sit at the bar?
>I know...I know...there is no difference, but hey,
>humor me here...I am a super fresh muffin.
>The Masked Muffin.

I have only gone to a gay bar once.  But what I gathered was that people
are there to pick up and be picked up.  Just make yourself look available
and something will happen.  I personally dance and don't like the meat market
idea.  But hey it can be fun too.

Jim
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Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
If you can't be good,               It just means use your imagination. 
be good at it.  T.B.                     Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:25:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.161024.4145@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
 kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>
>I think I'd only look uncomfortable in a suit of any description.
>The less I'm wearing, the happier I am; but if I have to wear
>clothes, then I'm happiest in my t-shirts and jeans, ripped or not.

I must meet you.  Everytime you describe yourself I get more and
more interested. (and curious)

>     Kay

Darren
(sending vast amounts of blatant hugs, kisses, and e-flirts in Kay's
direction)


Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (The_Devine_Dolly)
Subject: Re: Australians (was Re: accidently out)
Organization: Rational
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:20:21 GMT

tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:


>And reason #3 for going to America is that I have her address |-)

Tanaqui I have red hair too, as you well know!  Do tell me where
I rate on the list for coming to America???  Please, sweetheart,
make it high, I would be so disappointed.


Iseult.
Who always finds it necessary to flirt with Tanaquai, well - just because!


Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Silver Tiger)
Subject: Re: Bisexu-l information wanted
Organization: Queens University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:43:24 GMT

In article <C0EIt7.KyE@news.udel.edu>
seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
 
>Can someone send me information about how to access
>the mailing group Bisexu-l?
 
An Excerpt from the Bisexual Resource List on news.answers:
 
BiAct-L (bisexual activists) mailing list.  Send mail to Elaine
Brennan <EL406010@brownvm.brown.edu> to be added to (or removed from)
the mailing list.  Directions for posting to the list will be
sent to you when you are added to the list.
 
BiFem-L mailing list for Bi women and Bi-friendly women.  To
subscribe, send a message to listserv@brownvm.brown.edu with no
subject line and the following message body:
 SUBSCRIBE BIFEM-L *your full name*
You will receive an acknowledgement of your message, and will later
receive a message welcoming you to the list and explaining how to
post messages.  The list volume is 45-50 messages per day.
 
Bisexu-L mailing list.  To subscribe, send a message to
listserv@brownvm.brown.edu with no subject line and the
following message body:
  SUBSCRIBE BISEXU-L *your full name*
You will receive an acknowledgement of your message, and will later
receive a message welcoming you to the list and explaining how to
post messages.  The list volume is 45-50 messages per day.
A digest form (2-3 mail messages per day, each a packet of messages
received that day) is available to reduce the number of mail messages.
To subscribe, send a message to listserv@brownvm.brown.edu with
no subject line and the following message body:
  SUBSCRIBE BISEXU-D *your full name*
 
>thank you very much in advance and hugs hugs hugs hugs hugs.
 
*hugs* back. :)  I just subscribed to BISEXU-D today, so that's why
I have this on hand.  *grin*
 
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From: winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Conversions
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:58:48 GMT
Organization: Tiny Income
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan6.060143.19761@udel.edu>, litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst) writes:
*** Okay, this is something that came up in a conversation at EveCon and I wanted
*** to get a ton of opinions on it... While discussing coming out with Brendan
*** (he's bi, I'm not {yet}) I mentioned that several people had been doing their 
*** darnedest to "convert" me.  Now I'd never thought about it, but Brendan was
*** incensed that people were interfering in someone else's soul searching.  He
*** feels (and I agree now that I think about it) that someone's coming out should
*** be a personal event/struggle with other people there to be supportive, not
*** influential.  As I looked around at the bifolk that I was hanging around with
*** that weekend I heard (what I assumed) to be good-natured joking around about
*** various people's attempts to "convert" other people.  Im my limited experience
*** outside of this group, I tend to notice females doing this more often than 
*** males.  Is this normal?  Is this ethical?  Or am I just being a prude?  

Oh well.   I promised myself I'd never do a *serious* thread, but
here goes my $0.10:  The values I consider to be good dismiss mucking
about and sticking one's nose into someone else's business as bold-faced
rudeness.  Unfortunately, since this behavior is so pervasive, it is
also normal.  Ethics?  Did somebody mention ETHICS?  I mercifully bow-out
on that white-hot note.

john, who *will* get a REAL .sig one day.  one day....
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From: jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (James Carroll)
Subject: Re: Bisexual idenity and community (was Re: A hug request and ...)
Organization: University of Delaware Alumni
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:00:38 GMT

In article <C0rE1v.6Lu@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>In article <1isu2aINNfol@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> winsor@geek. (js) writes:
>>In article <C0nMx1.IqD@news.udel.edu>, seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>>
>>Jim, this and "the other thread" are just too provocative to pass
>>up!  C'mon...  it's not like we won't make up stuff more embarrassing
>>than the truth.  See also dp (orc) and, um, others.  ahem.
>>
>Embarassment.  No.  I haven't been embarrassed since I was in a Chinese 
>restaurant and my fag friend was discoursing at length about anal intercourse
>thus clearing the entire restaurant.  
>

I've cleared out restaurants in a similiar manner before.  Didn't embarrass
me.  :-)

>>You, also, are teasing.  And teasing 30,000 people is mean.
>>
>This is my creed.  I am a bitch.  I know it.  I revel in it.
>

You're also a queen when drinking!  :-)

>
>>john, who is not very good at exerting social pressure.
>>-- 
>It is easy.  "we'll be your friend if you do it."  "everybody cool is doing it."
>"My dad did it once."  "It could be worse.  You could live in Clevland.":)
>

"It'll make you feel good."

>Jim, whose pittsburgh heritage is shining through
>
>-- 
>Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
>   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
>If you can't be good,               It just means use your imagination. 
>be good at it.  T.B.                     Billy Bragg 

-James
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: Conversions
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:53:35 GMT

In article <1ikeb0INNr9g@rave.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article <lknhi1INNanp@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan6.060143.19761@udel.edu> litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst) writes:
>>>Okay, this is something that came up in a conversation at EveCon ...
>
>Is there a big soc.bi contingent at EveCon?  And if so, is the same group
>going to be at Marscon this year?
>--scott

I don't know.  I was the only one there that I know of, but then again I 
wouldn't know most of the soc.bi-ers if I tripped over you.  Zoe was supposed
to go, but things got complex and I've heard several reasons why she wasn't 
there (still haven't asked for her own story yet.)  When and where is Marscon?
You never know... we might be there.

					Steve

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From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: sunday morning, 3 AM
Summary: Ahh, college days...
Keywords: an interesting time was had by all
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:12:44 GMT

In article <C0n7LF.Hvz@news.udel.edu> eowyn@brahms.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes:
|My purity test score went down!!!!!!!!!!!!

   (I've just thought of a argument against having nothing but
long-distance lovers; it becomes a lot more difficult to pop onto
the net and gloat about drops in purity score after you've fucked
your brains out in new and improved ways ;-)


|My lips are sealed, I will reveal nothing.  But it was fun!

   In change in purity score, how fun was it?  (I've had a couple
of weekends where I managed to drop my purity score 13 points and 6
points, and a month in Glasgow that took off about 7 ;-)  If it's
more that, say, a 10-point drop, I think I'd like to marry you
and/or the people who helped you with this endeavor!


|(I think I like men.  Call it a het phase I'm going through.  But since 
|no women have jumped up and offered themselves, I take my opportunities
|when they present themselves.)

   Yeah, there's something to be said for men. (lapses into silly
grins and drooling)  I don't know if liking men makes it a het
phase - you need to be pretty, umm, single-minded to make it a
phase :-)


|(You can try and worm it out of me, but you'll all FAIL!!!!!!)
|(evil laugh)

   Oh, I suspect that there is a way that we could really drop your
resistance to interrogation.  Of course, you'd have to *consent* to
it, but, from the general pleased air of your posting, I'd say
you're already familiar with the technique that would be used.

                ____
  david parsons \bi/ Blatant e-slut
                 \/
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