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From: cjp5921@summa.tamu.edu (PEOPLES, CHRISTOPHER JAMES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
Subject: Software for swimmers and goggles (again)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:57 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hello, I am new to this news group, but have been a master's swimmer for about
4 years now.

I was wondering if anyone keeps a list of software that would be beneficial to
swimmers?  I already know about the shareware product SWIMBASE for the PC, 
which is a rostering and meet tracking package for USS teams.  What about
software for meet management, performance analysis, and other uses?  I could 
could compile a list of software and sources, and post it periodically.  If
interested, respond here, or email me at the address below.

Regarding the subject of perscription goggles, SPEEDO makes them in a clear
lens for powers of -1.5 to -8.0 diopters.  Check their catalogue, I think the
price is about $25.00, or try any aquatic supplier that handles SPEEDO.

Thanks,
Chris Peoples
cjp5921@geopsun.tamu.edu
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN Gripe
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:14:25 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1k39grINN2ac@rave.larc.nasa.gov> wjb@cscsun2.larc.nasa.gov (William J. Bene) writes:
>ESPN puts on one game every two weeks.  Can you call this Hockey COVERAGE?

You call it 'a need for ESPN II'. Lucrative college basketball deals
were signed way before current NHL pact. All ESPN is doing is honoring
college ball comittments and trying not piss off its sponsors too much.
It was schocking to see Kings-Rangers game in prime-time Saturday night
which is usually a big college ball night on ESPN. You think you're getting
less hockey on ESPN now,wait till ESPN's coverage of NCAA's March Madness
in a month or so. You'll be lucky to hear a word hockey on ESPN's SportsCenter...:-)

-PPV Mark
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gwalker@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Greg Walker)
Subject: Re: Stanley Cup champs. vs. European cup winners?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:10:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.134715.27800@nntp.hut.fi>, f31922c@kaira.hut.fi (Asko Tapani Huumonen) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.100712.17091@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
> >....A Finnish colleague of mine, Asko Huumonen, recently told me that a hockey
> >version of basketball's "McDonald's Open" might be a good idea. What do you
> >think? We could invite the Pittsburgh Penguins to play the top four teams of
> >the European Cup or...[suggested teams and remainder of article deleted]
> >MARCU$
> 
> Perhaps I should support the idea I brought to Marcus' head. If it is 
> profitable to bring two teams to Europe for one pre-season exhibition game
> there should be no financial obstacles for bringing one team to play three or
> four games. If the Stanley Cup champions were not interested any team 
> from NHL would be better than nothing.
> [ stuff deleted ] 
> There is no doubt at least some interest for this kind of tournament here in
> Europe. Somehow I feel that most North American fans couldn't care less. Please
> tell me how wrong I am.
> 
> Asko

Well, I'd be interested in watching such a tournament, but I don't think it'd
get off the ground.  NHL players already play a gruelling 84-game schedule,
plus ~10 exhibition games before it, and 0 to 28 playoff games after it.  The
Stanley Cup champions would have to be close to the 28 playoff game level, as
would the losing finalists, so the two best teams (yeah, I know that's
debateable) would be the most tired.

Not to mention the Canada Cup every 3-4 years, the proposed Olympic "Dream
Team", the all-star game and benefit games some teams play.  New tournaments
are something the NHLPA is probably not very interested in.

Still, money makes the world go 'round, and as one reporter commented after
the London exhibition games, these tournaments are not about hockey, they're
about selling beer.  Molson's of Canada is becoming more imperialistic day-
by-day, what with their recent agreement with Miller in the U.S.  It may yet
happen, or something similiar.

-- 
Greg Walker           "It's hard to work in groups when you're omnipotent" -- Q
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
gwalker@cayley.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: NORRIS possibilities?  
Summary: Norris trophy candidates
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:44:03 GMT
Keywords: Norris trophy 

	I just read that Brian Leetch is going to be out for another
six weeks.  This made me wonder who would be winning the Norris trophy
this year.  Bourque has probably been having a decent season at
Boston, but not outstanding, as I havn't seen that much talk about how
well he has been doing (and his point production isn't fabulous - for
him).  

	So who are the other candiates?  Could this be the year that
Phil Housley wins a Norris trophy?  Could Al Iafrate's proformance in
Washington get him what would be the realization of his, often-talked-
about-but-never-fully-reached, potential and the Norris?  Who else is
a possibility?  Larry Murphy?  Garth Butcher? (hey, he's in the
all-star game; so he's only subbing for Jeff Brown; he's there) 

 
_______________________
Evan Pritchard --------  Number 4 or 18 depending on the hockey pool 
=======================
epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  
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From: simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson)
Subject: NHL Merchandise sales and other miscellania
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:59:14 GMT

Today's Ottawa Citizen reports the top NHL teams in terms of merchandise, as 
well as some other interesting sales stats:

        Canada                               U.S.
        ======                               ====
  1.  San Jose Sharks                1.  San Jose Sharks
  2.  Montreal Canadiens             2.  L.A. Kings
  3.  Ottawa Senators                3.  Chicago Blackhawks
  4.  Vancouver Canucks              4.  Pittsburgh Penguins
  5.  Toronto Maple Leafs            5.  Detroit Red Wings
  6.  Tampa Bay Lightning            6.  Boston Bruins
  7.  L.A. Kings                     7.  St. Louis Blues
  8.  Boston Bruins                  8.  Tampa Bay Lightning
  9.  Chicago Blackhawks             9.  N.Y. Rangers
 10.  Philadelphia Flyers           10.  Philadelphia Flyers
                                    11.  Minnesota North Stars
                                    12.  New Jersey Devils
                                    13.  Ottawa Senators

(Unfortunately, they only list these.  I'd like to see the whole 24 teams,
as well as European stats, but alas....  Oh yeah, the source of these lists 
is Starter Canada).

Other niftty tidbits mentioned in the artice:
  o  $600 million in sales from July, 1991 through June, 1992
  o  NHL retail sales have tripled in the past three years
  o  Licensees pay nine-percent royalty on the wholesale price (usually
     half the retail figure)
  o  So, the 24 NHL teams share $27 million (minus the costs of running the
     licensing division)
  o  American sellers expected nothing from Ottawa, but are pleasantly surprised
     that they have the highest sales in the U.S. of all Canadian-based teams
  o  The Sharks account for an estimated 26% of the $600 million
  o  Comparative sports merchandise:
       -  MLB  $2.3 Billion
       -  NFL  $2.3 Billion
       -  NBA  $1.4 Billion
       -  NHL  $0.6 Billion
  o  Women account for 50% of all NHL purchases
  o  The Senators probably sell $20 million continent-wide
  o  The Sharks are tailing-off, becoming "mostly kids stuff"
  o  Next up for the Sharks are a line of Hispanic dolls, a portion of the 
     proceeds from which will go to San Jose's Hispanic community

Just in case anyone else cares,
Me.
---
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TODAY'S .SIG: [Pay heed, for this quote/word/fact may alter your very being!]
"But don't take *my* word for it, let's ask an actor portraying Charles
 Darwin what *he* thinks...", Monty Burns, _The Simpsons_
)-> In case it's not obvious, BNR and I may or may not share these views. <-(
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: drake@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu (Frank Drake)
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: University of Massachusetts Lowell
	<MACRO.93Jan26105842@hpcobr30.cup.hp.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:26:19 GMT

In article <MACRO.93Jan26105842@hpcobr30.cup.hp.com> macro@cup.hp.com (Patrick MacRoberts) writes:
> % During one of our games this year, I remember one of my teammates breaking
> % his blade with the first shot he took with it.
>
> Probably a dry blade.  The same thing happens with wooden sticks.
> They get dry, lose any flexibility they had, and break.

I've had blades last 3 or 4 weeks, and others that snap first shift. I'll
bet it is because they are dry. If this is the case, has anyone tried
anything to "humidify" or moisturize the blade? Soaking it in water would
make it too heavy (and would probably make it swell enough that it wouldn't
fit in the shaft comfortably), but what if I set it on the counter in the
shower a day or two before I change the blade? Anyone think this would
work?

Frank
--
Frank Drake                 "Jesus saves - and Esposito scores on the rebound!"
University of Massachusetts Lowell
Center for Productivity Enhancement                               (508)934-2630
Lowell, Massachusetts 01854                        drake@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: shoe@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Shoesmith)
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:38:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.185608.16756@news.acns.nwu.edu> scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin) writes:
>
>I've seen the shafts break on aluminum sticks (see my last Hawks news :).
>
>Seriously, it does happen, and what you end up with is a jagged edged aluminum
>spear. You wanna talk about *dangerous*. Scary.
>
I broke the shaft of my aluminum stick a month ago.  As the rules of the
game state, I dropped the broken bit, thus relieving myself of this
"dangerous" spear I was holding.  I really don't expect anyone else to
pick it up and use it either.

Mark S.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: Wendell CLark
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:21:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.143757.13337@clark.dgim.doc.ca> dave@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Dave Thompson) writes:
>In the January 17th game against Chicago, Wendell got hurt I think in the
>rib cage. Did he play against the BLues last night? If not, what is his
>status? Thanks.
>
>Dave Thompson
>

    Wendell Clark didn't play in the Blues game. Doug Gilmour was the captain's
C on his jersey. 

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  %   \ \_)____________/         A L L E Z   L E S   B L U E S  ! ! !    * 
  *    \    __________/          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    % 
  %     \    ________/                                                   *
  *      \   _______/                  Joe                               % 
  %       \  \                         Contact for the Blues             *
  *        \  \  SAINT LOUIS           jca2@cec1.wustl.edu               % 
  %        (___)             BLUES                                       * 
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From: nin15b34@merrimack.edu (Mike Machnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: College Hockey(DIV III)? (mailing list info)
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:26:13 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <93019.202037SPW101@psuvm.psu.edu>, SPW101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> Is there anyone out there who keeps up with NCAA Div III hockey?  I am most
> interested in the east (the Plattsburgh State Cardinals) but would like to
> keep up with the west.  Can anyone help?

There is a mailing list for DivIII hockey, the info is in the latest FAQ
but it is so long, I would not be surprised if people didn't see it, so
here is the information.

To join the DivIII hockey mailing list, send mail to

hockey3-request@hooville.mitre.org

and ask to be added.  You will be sent an intro message when your request
is processed (by the person on the other end, Pete Kester).

> **************************************************************************
> Bruins : 5 Stanley Cups
> Plattsburgh State Cardinals : 1992 NCAA Div National Champs
> Penn State Icers : 18-0-0  Ranked #1 for club hockey teams
> **************************************************************************

My fiancee was the manager for Plattsburgh last year (and has a nice NCAA
championship ring), so I am also trying to follow them...they're off to
a pretty good start, something like 12-4-0.  They played two games against
DivI competition and lost both, 14-3 to Colgate and 5-3 to Army.  They
also lost to Salem State in the Cardinal Classic Championship early in the 
season and I believe lost a close game with Elmira, but they seem to be
playing well lately and are still unbeaten in SUNYAC play at 7-0-0.
---
Mike Machnik    nin15b34@merrimack.edu   Color Voice of the Merrimack Warriors
(Any opinions expressed above are strictly those of the poster.)    *HMN*
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: ekaas@cs.sfu.ca (Erik Kaas)
Subject: Re: Toronto wins the Cup (Why not?)
Keywords: Leafs Toronto Cup
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:12:53 GMT

In article <C1FCLr.8FE@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> ayim@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Alfred Yim) writes:

>2. Best goaltending in the league. (if Grant is injured
>   there's always Potvin)

Canucks` and Blackhawks' goaltenders are *definitely* better!

>4. Pat Burns is a proven coach

He failed to lead the Habs (despite point 5 a better team)
to a Stanley Cup final.

>5. They beat Montreal 2...2...2 times!!!
>   (please no flame from Hab fans)
>6. Best fans in the league. (cheap but gets the 
>   applause.)

Make that the most optimistic fans...


Erik KK
-- 
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From: panchj@nuge103.its.rpi.edu (Josh)
Subject: Re: Need evals of Bruins' John Blue
Reply-To: panchj@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:58:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.093256.15911@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:
|> 
|> For those if you who get to see a lot of Bruins games, I would like to hear
|> your impressions of Blue's performance in goal so far.  Is he or will he be
|> someone we can count on in the playoffs?
|> -- 
|> ******************************************************************************
|> Dan Lyddy    daniell@cory.berkeley.edu    University of California at Berkeley
|> "They still love Lyndon Byers here in Boston.  He'll probably belt someone 
|>  before he leaves."  --- Sharks announcer Joe Starkey
	
	I am yet to see Blue play for the Boston Bruins, but I have seen plenty
of him down and Providence.  He played extremely well while in Providence.  We'll
just have to wait and see how he does against the big boys.
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Flyers/Sabres & Sabre news
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:58:25 GMT
Organization: UB


Alexander Mogilny scored his 47th goal of the season last night,
helping spark the Sabres to a 4-3 OT win, their sixth road win of the
season.  Mogilny needs a hat trick tomorrow at the Aud against
Washington to reach 50 in 50.  

Tom Draper made his fifth straight start in goal.  Daren Puppa is 
still out with a sprained knee, and Dominik Hasek will undergo 
further tests on his abdominal muscle pull.

Philadelphia started the scoring, with goals from Eklund and Recchi
just over a minute apart and at only three minutes into the game.   
Down 2-0, the Sabres got a lift off Mogilny's 47th of the season, at
the end of the first.  

The Sabres held the Flyers to just two shots in the second period, but
couldn't get anything past Roussel.  

The third period saw the return of Dave Andreychuk to tally sheets
with an even strength goal.  The Sabres killed off a two man
disadvantage, only to have Keith Acton retake the lead for the
Flyers.  Dave Andreychuk returned again (!) to score the tying goal
at 19:25 on the power play. 

In overtime, Mogilny scored his 28th, only to have it wiped out by the
goal judge after a Flyer knocked Pat Lafontaine into the net, which
lifted the back of the net up from the ice surface.  Bob Sweeney
scored the gamewinner.  Final score 4-3 Buffalo.

Paul Stewart played a very loose game, letting just about everything
go.  Mogilny had a plum scoring opportunity spoiled by Yuskevich(?)
early in the first, as he went in on a breakaway and was hooked.
Stewart must have been watching the crowd or the ceiling or something
other than the game, no call.  Buffalo finished with just two power
play opportunities, while Philly had four.


It was a game that the Sabres should have won, and I think Stewart's
noncalls were a major factor in Buffalo's struggle.  But that's just
me and I've never been a Stewart fan.  

Dave Hannan played with a broken toe (ouch).  Randy Moller did not
make the trip and is still bothered by back problems.  As noted above,
Hasek is having his abdominal pull reexamined, Puppa's still out, and
Svoboda is lost for the remainder of the season with his knee injury.

  
        Shots on goal--Buffalo 13-10-11-1--35. Philadelphia 12-2-11-0--25.
        Power-play conversions--Buffalo 2-1. Philadelphia 4-0.




-- 
Valerie Hammerl 	       John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab 
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu       his hand, and start running around the outside,
V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  faster and faster.  "I wanted to learn how to 
get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate."  P. LaFontaine
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: LA Kings..Gretzky..Kirk McLaine
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:49:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?


The injured and battered LA Kings had probably their best back-to-back
games in a month or so. They beat the Oilers in Edm 5-4 and lost at home
to Vancouver 5-4. 

The Kings' offense got a much needed boost with the return of Sandstrom
(who got a hatrick). For the first time in quite a while the offense 
played well in all 3 periods. Melrose went back to the old line of
Gretzky-Granato-Sandstrom. This line had played so well 2 years ago when
the Kings won the Smythe division. Gretzky had his best game so far since
his return. He looked dangerous everytime he got the puck. 

Hopefully Millen can return quickly from his injuries and give them a 
furthur boost on the second line with Kurri and Robitaille.

Kirk McLaine of the Canucks had one of the best games I have seen a 
goalie have in along time. He was just incredible. His glove saves on 
2 Coffey medium-range blasts were beauties. Both shots were heading for
the corners of the goal.




_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
#######################################################
From: shoe@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Shoesmith)
Subject: Re: USA-players
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:29:43 GMT

In article <1jqt57INNkgo@shelley.u.washington.edu> busch@stein.u.washington.edu (Arthur Busch) writes:
>Top 5 American NHLers (IMO of course)
>1. Pat LaFontaine
>2. Kevin Stevens
>3. Phil Housley
>4. Chris Chelios (admittedly a big slimeball, but a good one)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I would put Brian Leetch here instead.  The others I agree with.

>5. Jeremy Roenick
>

Mark S.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu
Subject: ESPN gets 2 periods
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:43:09 GMT
Reply-To: smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State Univ, CIRA

ESPN planners must have been thanking the hockey gods after the
2nd period of last night's Rangers at Kings match. At that point
the Kings had rallied from a 0-3 deficit to tie the Rangers on three
unanswered goals. The play was fast-paced and entertaining even for
a non-hockey fan. 

Then came the third period ..............
Five consecutive goals for the Rangers, the collapse of the Kings, 
jeering from the crowd, etc

One could hear the changing of channels across the nation.....
Well maybe not... SportsCenter followed with the almighty hoops review.

Smitty
smith%phobos.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:54:31 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <gp2011-260193125517@m248-65.bgsu.edu> gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic) writes:
>In article <C1Fvwn.I26@acsu.buffalo.edu>, hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie
>S. Hammerl) wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone else heard of reports of problems with aluminum stick
>> blades breaking off often?
>
>During one of our games this year, I remember one of my teammates breaking
>his blade with the first shot he took with it.  Another problem with
>aluminum sticks is that the shaft does not break.  I know that is the whole
>point, but it is very dangerous.  Have you ever seen someone give a
>cross-check to another player's back and the stick break?  The reason is
>that there is one certain part of the vertebrae that is too strong and it
>will just break the stick.  Well, if this is done with an aluminum stick,
>it can cause a serious back injury.  This is why I never use aluminum
>sticks.
>

Not to get picky, but I have seen the shaft of an aluminum stick
break.  It wasn't something I was physically present at, but I believe
it was practice highlights or a game featuring the Sabres.  Left lots
of sharp shards along the end. I think it may have been preseason
scrimmages, and I know it was one of the Sabre defensemen.  He was
taking a shot on goal, not crosschecking someone.


Another thing which seems to happen is if the shaft of an aluminum
stick comes into contact with another player's skate blade, the skate 
blade loses its edge.  Has anyone else noticed the increase in the 
number of players that need to go get their skates sharpened in the 
course of a game?   


-- 
Valerie Hammerl 	       John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab 
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu       his hand, and start running around the outside,
V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  faster and faster.  "I wanted to learn how to 
get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate."  P. LaFontaine
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:56:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: m248-65.gp2011-260193125517
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

In article <C1Fvwn.I26@acsu.buffalo.edu>, hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie
S. Hammerl) wrote:
> 
> I realize this is a weird question, but humor me.
> 
> Has anyone else heard of reports of problems with aluminum stick
> blades breaking off often?

During one of our games this year, I remember one of my teammates breaking
his blade with the first shot he took with it.  Another problem with
aluminum sticks is that the shaft does not break.  I know that is the whole
point, but it is very dangerous.  Have you ever seen someone give a
cross-check to another player's back and the stick break?  The reason is
that there is one certain part of the vertebrae that is too strong and it
will just break the stick.  Well, if this is done with an aluminum stick,
it can cause a serious back injury.  This is why I never use aluminum
sticks.

George