HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: seal hunters and green peace
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 09:25:28 GMT

for those of you who do not question what green peace puts forth here is 
some valuable information and miner thought leaps that you have not made.

green peace saposidly filmed seel hunters in action. the film shows them
bludgining the seals to death.

1:bludgining is a messy way to kill somthing-a lot of blood is spred about
2:blood on any thing creates a stain that ethere ruens the iobject or 
drasticly reduces the value.
3:furs are almost allways ruened by blood stains.
conclusion->the pelts of seals who have been bludgebed to death are horably
stained and thusly ruined for any practical use. killing seals by bludgining
is incredably counter productive.
??*also,why whould hunters alow green peace to tape them any way?????

seal hunters kill the seal by herding them into a corral and shouting them
with a dart contaning uthinnasha-the same thing that is given to pets when
it is nessasary to put them to sleep.

ELF-KIN
From: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk) (M i c h a e l ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Recycling window glass
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:34:45 GMT
Reply-To: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk
Organization: Magic Michael's Mushroom Factory.

In article <1992Aug15.030425.27437@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bj437@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul B. Hindemith) writes:
|> 
|> My science Club has been recycling the old windows from my school.
|> We're recycling the aluminum and steel frames, but the glass gets thrown
|> away because the recycling stations in my area (Omaha, NE) will only
|> take bottle glass.  Does this glass just have to go to the landfill?  I
|> wish it wouldn't!
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> bj437@Cleveland.Freenet.CWRU  Paul B. Hindemith  Omaha NE  Creighton Prep
|> "Most solutions to unhappiness are largely concerned with movements of small
|> green pieces of paper, which is odd because it isn't the small, green
|> pieces of paper that are unhappy."_So_Long_&_Thanks_For_All_the_Fish  Adams


ummm..... I don't see why they won't take it (you do have colored glass over there
don't you?)... I'd be very tempted just to take it along to the nearest bottle bank
and dump it in there!

Michael
From: red_trek@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Short Environmental Tips: reannouncment
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:45:13 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

A while back, I posted an announcement that I had available a 
300-line file called "Short Environmental Tips", heavily, though
not exclusively, based on "50 Simple Things You Can Do to Save
the Earth".

If you have e-mailed me for a copy of this file, and have not
yet received it, then please e-mail me again and I'll
make another effort to send it ot you.

E-mail to :  Red_Trek@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: glass
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 09:12:12 GMT

glass os a product made by melting silacon sand. it acures naturaly in 
valcanic eruptions and is called obstadin (i beleve). natural glass tends to
be black. because it does acure naturaly and natural glass has no - efect.
it is safe to asume that glass has no - efect (beyond punctured tiers). 
silicon sand is not an endangered resorce like fossale fuels are. no mater
how you look at it it takes more energy to recycale glass then to make more.
reusing bottles is a difrint story.

ELF-KIN
From: bj437@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul B. Hindemith)
Subject: Recycling window glass
Reply-To: bj437@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul B. Hindemith)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 03:04:25 GMT


My science Club has been recycling the old windows from my school.
We're recycling the aluminum and steel frames, but the glass gets thrown
away because the recycling stations in my area (Omaha, NE) will only
take bottle glass.  Does this glass just have to go to the landfill?  I
wish it wouldn't!


-- 
bj437@Cleveland.Freenet.CWRU  Paul B. Hindemith  Omaha NE  Creighton Prep
"Most solutions to unhappiness are largely concerned with movements of small
green pieces of paper, which is odd because it isn't the small, green
pieces of paper that are unhappy."_So_Long_&_Thanks_For_All_the_Fish  Adams
From: gaia@access.digex.com (gaia enterprises)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
Subject: Institutional Recycling (was Re: Recycling in the Workplace)
Summary: up to 90% paper waste in offices
Keywords: recycling
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:50:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA

Kate (hayesk@wl.aecl.ca) writes:

"I am looking for any information related to recycling, reduction, reuse, etc.
in the workplace.  If anyone has any information related to the 'how-tos'
of implementing a programme etc., I'd love to hear from you. For example,  
I understand that Bell Canada has been very successful in their '3R Programme'
(ie. 97% reduction??)."

Paper averages 41% composition in municipal solid waste. In offices this can be
as high as 90%. Institutions use more paper than necessary. Install recycling
containers by paper types (cardboard, newsprint, high grade, and mixed). Reuse
the backsides of the paper in these bins for scratch. File all you can on
electronic media instead of in paper files. Contact a local recycler for pickup
service (use your phone book or email me for a reference - specify material(s)
in question). Most institutions will generate waste for recycling but not
consider using recycled products to complete the cycle. This is a major problem
as pointed out on the CBS Evening News (6/8/92). So use recycled products with
as high a post-consumer content as possible (caution - most companies that bill
their products as 'recycled' don't list content because they only use a
marginal amount of recycled material for the hype).

I recently started a project that sorts (in a database) recycled products from
different companies and presents the costs in a list based on content
(percentages). The list is available electronically and the ordering is also
done electronically to reduce stress on the paper stream. Most of the products
pertain to the office and home (and only a fraction of the products available
are listed). Recycling equipment for institutions is also available. Note -
institutions get an average of 10% off (close to wholesale).

Anyhow, I have aquired alot of literature and phone numbers on this topic in
the process (although I am always looking for more). If anyone needs
information, you may contact me and I will try to help or give you a reference
where you may try to find help.

In return, if anyone has information on recycling drives or recycled product
companies or manufacturers in their area, please let me know. If I get enough
information, I'll try to post a summary.

CM Tseng
Gaia Enterprises
gaia@access.digex.com
From: Judith_Beeman@mindlink.bc.ca (Judith Beeman)
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
Subject: Burroughs/S. J. Bernstein
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:24:26 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

A brief mention: I have both the 7 inch single and 12 inch ep (4 songs) of WS
Burroughs' voice over music produced by (film dir.) Gus Van Zant ( who earlier
had produced short 'Thanksgiving Prayer' of WSB poetry - very good). The 12
inch is on blue vinyl distribution by TK records which, I believe, is an
expanding indie co (811 SW Front, #620, Portland, OR 97204. The "best" bit is
"Millions of Images" which as the others, has Bill repeating phrases over and
over. A neat addition to the record library...also on CD.

And the fellow who opened for WSB on his last reading in Seattle (few years
back), Steven Jesse Bernstein, has his poems set to music on the outstanding
PRISON, a posthumous release (Jesse died by his own hand, Oct 91). When JB
passed away only one of these "song/poems" had been completed, but producer
Steve Fisk had already been given the go ahead by JB to work on the project.
The music, at exactly the right spot throughout, runs the gamut from jazzy be
bop stuff reminisent of the 50's to the most sultry funk and back to samples of
machine gunshots and soft piano. Outrageous. A sad proud memory of a man know
to all on the Seattle arts scene. Released by Sub Pop! (friends of his). 
Xref: sparky alt.emusic:254 rec.music.makers:8933 rec.music.misc:21484 rec.music.synth:13425
From: cliffw@sequent.com (Cliff White)
Newsgroups: alt.emusic,rec.music.makers,rec.music.misc,rec.music.synth
Subject: Building Octapad triggers (II)
Summary: Help me with piezo wiring
Keywords: drum triggers
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:39:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Aug12.133922.24490
Followup-To: cliffw@sequent.com
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.


I am seeking information about building external triggers for the
Roland Octapad.  
I do not need information about constructing pads, rather i need to know 
which piezos to use, and whatever wiring information is around.

I have heard that there was an article in Electronic Musician 
or Modern Drummer a few monthsw/years ago about this -
I would appreciate a pointer-

Or whatever info you have. 
Please email, this is a repost to a wider audience.

So far, my only responses have been,
'Send me copies of what you find'

So if i don't get any responses with solid info, 
i may start a list of all the people that respond, and
maybe we can work this out together........:)


write to cliffw@sequent.com
-- 
cliffw

'When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro'- HST
From: oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: Dynamic Array Allocation
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:51:43 GMT
Reply-To: smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov
Organization: Metrop. Educ. Council, Columbus, OH

In article <pace.714140713@calspan.com>, pace@calspan.com (Tom Pace) writes:
> In <1992Aug17.094010.429@mec.ohio.gov> oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov writes:
> 
>>I am looking for a way to allocate an array during run-time.  I have an indexed
>>file, and I want to be able to load the keys into an array and basically,
>>display the keys to screen, etc.
> 
> 	Though I don't believe it is truely a dynamic allocation of space,
> we have done this for some time using the following declaration,
> 01  array_var.
>     05  array_ndx pic (8) comp.
>     05  array_el occurs from 1 to 10000 times depending on array_ndx.
>         10  array_el_fld1   pic x(10).
>         10  array_el_fld2   pic x(20).
> 
> More then likely it allocates the max. amount possible.
> 
> Hope this suggestion is on target.
> 
> TAP (pace@geordi.calspan.com)
> 

This is the method that I am _currently_ using.  I wasn't positive, but was
fairly certian that the system would allocate the MAX amount possible.  A bit
of a resource waste, but I think better than being disk bound by reading from
the file all the time.

I was hoping for a solution similar to the above, but one that would only
allocate space for array_ndx items.  Oh well, we can't have everything.

While I am at it, I would like to apologise for leaving out the system I am
compiling on; VAX 6610 running VMS 5.5-1.  

Next, I would like to thank everyone for the replies I have received.  If I
didn't reply, I am sorry.  I did not mean to slight you in any way.

Bob -- smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov
From: agnew@ast.saic.com (Robert Allen Agnew)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: COBOL Grammar
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:00:55 GMT
Organization: SAIC

I am trying to obtain the EBNF or YACC description of a COBOL grammar, 
preferrably COBOL-74. If anyone knows of a FTP site or has a file like that,
please send e-mail to:

agnew@actd.saic.com


Thanks in advance., Bob Agnew
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: jayesh@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (Jayesh Thakrar)
Subject: Re: Dynamic Array Allocation
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:57:35 GMT

In <1992Aug17.094010.429@mec.ohio.gov> oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov writes:

>Hello.

>I am looking for a way to allocate an array during run-time.  I have an indexed
>file, and I want to be able to load the keys into an array and basically,
>display the keys to screen, etc.

>I have a couple of thoughts on how to do this ('C' is NOT an option), but I am
>interested in ideas from people that have actually done this.

We had a similar application requirement that we solved as follows :

(We required to display customer transactions in a range/satisfying some
 some conditions)

The way we did was 

(a) START from the beginning of the range and READ NEXT till we filled
    up the screen. 
(b) Pause and wait for the user to choose the next option.
(c) More transactions could be read by performing more READ NEXTs
(d) To go back, we used the READ PREVIOUS available in MICROFOCUS
    COBOL/2 / COBOL - 85.

This might work for you too.

--
Jayesh Thakrar   (jayesh@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au)     Phone : (077)-814401
Computer Science Dept.                            Fax   : (077)-814029
James Cook University 
Townsville, Queensland, AUSTRALIA 4811
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: pace@calspan.com (Tom Pace)
Subject: segmented key access
Keywords: key,cobol,index,access
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Distribution: global
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:15:56 GMT

	Anyone had any luck accessing an indexed file via a segmented key
using only Cobol?  I don't beleive it can be done but thought I would ask
anyway.

TAP (pace@geordi.calspan.com)

PS this is on a VAx
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Dynamic Array Allocation
From: oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:40:10 -0400
Reply-To: smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov
Distribution: world
Organization: Metrop. Educ. Council, Columbus, OH

Hello.

I am looking for a way to allocate an array during run-time.  I have an indexed
file, and I want to be able to load the keys into an array and basically,
display the keys to screen, etc.

I have a couple of thoughts on how to do this ('C' is NOT an option), but I am
interested in ideas from people that have actually done this.

Bob Smith  --  smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov
Lorain County Board of Education
Elyria, OH
(216) 324-2931 (w)   365-3956 (h)

Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: rdekker@do.raet.nl (R. Dekker)
Subject: Re: COBOL Grammar
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:02:45 GMT
Organization: RAET Decentrale Overheid, The Netherlands

In article <1992Aug23.074650.992@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> valdez_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <BtCy5x.8zL@do.raet.nl>, rdekker@do.raet.nl (R. Dekker) writes:
>>Well there is a grammer for COBOL ! For instance in "The C User Journal"
>>Volume 10, Number 2, Page 123.
>>I quote:
>>"Sick of PCYACC of MKS YACC ? Switch to LARL ........ Includes grammers
>>for Ada, BASIC,......COBOL...... Free demo disk."
>>
>>Company:	AUTOM
>>		P.O. Box 10225
>>		Eugen, OR 97440
>>		(503) 484-3819
>>		(503) 485-5702 (fax).
>>
>>Please let me know how good the LARL COBOL grammer is.
>>
>>Thanks !
>
>Does the demo disk contain the COBOL grammar? BTW, are you sure it's LARL and
>not LALR?

Yup, your right it's LALR. I don't know if the demo disk contains the
the COBOL grammer. Ask them !
-- 
Roel Dekker                             RAET Decentrale Overheid
Internet : rdekker@do.raet.nl           Attn: Mr. R. Dekker
UUCP     : do.raet.nl!rdekker           P.O. Box 131
Phone    : +31 5220 56969               7940 AC  MEPPEL
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: pace@calspan.com (Tom Pace)
Subject: Cobol 85, any sources.
Keywords: 85, ANSI
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Distribution: global
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:18:47 GMT

	Where can I get the specs for ANSI Cobol 85?
	Book, paper etc ok.

	We use the Cobol Report writer feature, but folks around here think
that we are not the norm and that it is not included in the ANSI specs any
longer.  Input?

TAP (pace@geordi.calspan.com)
From: foerster@zman.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: COBOL Grammar
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:13:13 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Aug19.180055.12359@ast.saic.com>, agnew@ast.saic.com (Robert Allen Agnew) writes:
|> I am trying to obtain the EBNF or YACC description of a COBOL grammar, 
|> preferrably COBOL-74. If anyone knows of a FTP site or has a file like that,
|> please send e-mail to:
|> 
|> agnew@actd.saic.com
|> 
|> 
|> Thanks in advance., Bob Agnew

Good Luck!!!
There have been several requests on comp.compilers for a COBOL grammar but
with no success. 

I know of one implementation - Data General's - but it can not be released 
for public consumption. 

YACC has it's problems with COBOL but the problems are not insurmountable.

-- 

Michael von Foerster           Internet: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
DG/UX Core Development         UUCP:     {world}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!foerster
Data General Corporation
62 T.W. Alexander Drive
RTP, NC. 27709                 Phone:    919-248-6327
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: valdez_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Alexander F. Valdez)
Subject: Re: COBOL Grammar
Reply-To: valdez_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:46:50 GMT

In article <BtCy5x.8zL@do.raet.nl>, rdekker@do.raet.nl (R. Dekker) writes:
>Well there is a grammer for COBOL ! For instance in "The C User Journal"
>Volume 10, Number 2, Page 123.
>I quote:
>"Sick of PCYACC of MKS YACC ? Switch to LARL ........ Includes grammers
>for Ada, BASIC,......COBOL...... Free demo disk."
>
>Company:	AUTOM
>		P.O. Box 10225
>		Eugen, OR 97440
>		(503) 484-3819
>		(503) 485-5702 (fax).
>
>Please let me know how good the LARL COBOL grammer is.
>
>Thanks !

Does the demo disk contain the COBOL grammar? BTW, are you sure it's LARL and
not LALR?
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
Subject: Re: FAQ??  The best PC cobol package
From: Richard_Plinston@kcbbs.gen.nz (Richard Plinston)
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:37:50 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

   >>> and Microsoft as their standard Cobol

   And by IBM as IBM Cobol/2 for DOS, OS/2 and VS Cobol for AIX.
  
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: rdekker@do.raet.nl (R. Dekker)
Subject: Re: COBOL Grammar
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:49:09 GMT
Organization: RAET Decentrale Overheid, The Netherlands

In article <1992Aug20.101313.13158@dg-rtp.dg.com> foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com writes:
> article <1992Aug19.180055.12359@ast.saic.com>, agnew@ast.saic.com (Robert Allen Agnew) writes:
>|> I am trying to obtain the EBNF or YACC description of a COBOL grammar, 
>|> preferrably COBOL-74. If anyone knows of a FTP site or has a file like that,
>|> please send e-mail to:
>|> 
>|> agnew@actd.saic.com
>|> 
>|> 
>|> Thanks in advance., Bob Agnew
>
>Good Luck!!!
>There have been several requests on comp.compilers for a COBOL grammar but
>with no success. 
>
>I know of one implementation - Data General's - but it can not be released 
>for public consumption. 
>
>YACC has it's problems with COBOL but the problems are not insurmountable.
>

Well there is a grammer for COBOL ! For instance in "The C User Journal"
Volume 10, Number 2, Page 123.
I quote:
"Sick of PCYACC of MKS YACC ? Switch to LARL ........ Includes grammers
for Ada, BASIC,......COBOL...... Free demo disk."

Company:	AUTOM
		P.O. Box 10225
		Eugen, OR 97440
		(503) 484-3819
		(503) 485-5702 (fax).

Please let me know how good the LARL COBOL grammer is.

Thanks !

-- 
Roel Dekker                             RAET Decentrale Overheid
Internet : rdekker@do.raet.nl           Attn: Mr. R. Dekker
UUCP     : do.raet.nl!rdekker           P.O. Box 131
Phone    : +31 5220 56969               7940 AC  MEPPEL
Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: pace@calspan.com (Tom Pace)
Subject: Re: Dynamic Array Allocation
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:25:13 GMT

In <1992Aug17.094010.429@mec.ohio.gov> oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov writes:

>I am looking for a way to allocate an array during run-time.  I have an indexed
>file, and I want to be able to load the keys into an array and basically,
>display the keys to screen, etc.

	Though I don't believe it is truely a dynamic allocation of space,
we have done this for some time using the following declaration,
01  array_var.
    05  array_ndx pic (8) comp.
    05  array_el occurs from 1 to 10000 times depending on array_ndx.
        10  array_el_fld1   pic x(10).
        10  array_el_fld2   pic x(20).

More then likely it allocates the max. amount possible.

Hope this suggestion is on target.

TAP (pace@geordi.calspan.com)

Newsgroups: alt.cobol
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: Cobol 85, any sources.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:49:41 GMT
Distribution: global
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow
Keywords: 85, ANSI

In article <pace.714071927@calspan.com>, pace@calspan.com (Tom Pace) writes:
|> 	Where can I get the specs for ANSI Cobol 85?
|> 	Book, paper etc ok.
|> 
|> 	We use the Cobol Report writer feature, but folks around here think
|> that we are not the norm and that it is not included in the ANSI specs any
|> longer.  Input?

Sure. Write to:

     American National Standards Institute
     1430 Broadway
     New York, NY  10018

ask them for publication ANSI X3.23-1985, send them $40, and it's yours.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
+--------------------------------------------------+
|Despite decades of market research, markets       |
|proliferate and there's no cure in sight.         |
+--------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Stain on Silk
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:18:20 GMT

You might try LPS degreaser (from an auto parts store).  Spray it
on the oily spot and drop the shirt into the washing machine.

Test this on a seam, I think, before you go for the big conspicuous
spot.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all."  Unknown US fighter pilot
From: steck@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Paul Steckler)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Buttoneer or equivalent?
Date: 16 Aug 92 05:01:59 GMT
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
Originator: steck@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu

Years ago, Dennison Mfg had a product called Buttoneer which
allowed you to attach buttons to clothing with plastic fasteners.
The buttons were more secure than if held by thread.  Plus, you
could attach a button in a second or two.

I've been trying to find this product, without luck.  Does anyone
know where I can get one, or an equivalent?

-- Paul

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