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From: jrd@gagme.chi.il.us (John R. Dennison)
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Originator: jrd@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:59:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.155941.5557@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
>Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
>360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

	"mtools" would prolly help.  Available at an archive site near you.

	(I am pretty sure I have seen mtools running on 3B machines in
	the last couple years - altho I could be wrong.)


						John
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From: root@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Virtual terminals in sysV rel 3.2?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:51:16 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: a consultant's basement
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Tim Heimerl (th@hawkmoon.mn.org) wrote:
: I have Att unix sysV rel 3.2 and I am wondering if there is virtual
: terminal support and how to get it to work if it does.  I would also like to 
: get the source code for elm and nn so I can put it onto my system.  If anyone
: would have an xwin package also for this release It would be appreciated.
: 

My shlm package, posted to comp.sources.misc last month will give you
virtual terminals.  As I understand, that release does not come with
virtual terminal support built in.
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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:26:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.023807.8649@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> ccpoabt!dan@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US writes:
"adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
"
":)carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke) writes:
":)"While reading through _The Whole Internet User`s Guide & Catalog_
":)"by Ed Krol, it mentions a "u3b" newsgroup with "Discussions related
":)"to the AT&T 3B computer series." (page 131)  Does anyone know any
":)"sites that carry this?
"
":)*we* carry it... ;^>
"
"Does this mean that it's distribution is limited to AT&T sites.  Not fair!
"This heirarchy is in the active list at this site, but I've yet to see any
"traffic flow.

nope.
u3b was set up originally as an alternate hierarchy parallel to, but
outside of, normal netnews distribution channels.
the unix-pc hierarchy was similar, but was successfully moved to
comp.*.3b1.

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From: wee@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: 3b2 E-ports top speeds?
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:47:30 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Could someone out there give me the limits on the E-ports card?

So far, from my own experiments, it seems only one
port can go up to 38400/19200 with hardware flow control, while
the rest of the ports have to be XON/XOFF.  But I can use
hardware flow control on numerous ports if no port is set 
above 9600.

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From: "larry moore" <larry.moore@canrem.com>
Subject: att name change
Reply-To: "larry moore" <larry.moore@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 22 Nov 92 13:54:48 EST

Keywords: ATT 3B2/300 system name change?

How do I change the system name of a 3b2/300?
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From: dougs@david.wheaton.edu (Doug Smith - SGA)
Subject: high speed modem on 3B2/1000
Organization: Wheaton College
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:28:45 GMT

I'd like to set up a V.32bis modem on my 3B2 and I'm hoping I can
avoid reinventing the wheel.  Has anyone documented the procedure
to do this properly?


dougs@sga.uucp
...wheaton.wheaton.edu!sga!dougs
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From: gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Question about cases
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:20:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.210937.27110@u.washington.edu> carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke) writes:
>Looking at my _Computer Maintenance Reference Manual_, the only
>differences it lists between the Version 2 systems is the pro-
>cessor.  So, I was wondering, if I ordered a case from anywhere
>would I be able to put the guts from my 310 into the 400 case?
>I am looking mainly to gain the additional hard drive inside the
>case and al the extra slots.  The spot for the tape drive is
>nice too.

Yes, you can do that.
The 310 and 400 motherboards are exactly the same.

>BTW, anyone know how much an AT&T 3B2/1000 costs?

A lot.

> Can I pick it up for under $1000?

Nope!

> Didn`t think so.  Heck, what kind of MIPS do the 1000`s do?

Probably around 5-7 MIPS for each processor, depending on model.
Anyone have some real numbers that I can add to the FAQ?

-greg

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From: jeffrey@sci.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Jeffrey L Bromberger)
Subject: Longest possible 3B2 serial runs?
Reply-To: jeffrey@sci.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Jeffrey L Bromberger)
Organization: City College of New York - Biology Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:57:55 GMT

I'm interested in figuring out how long a run I can make from my 3B2.
Hopefully, I can pull about 75 feet of cable from a terminal to the
main machine - can the 3B2 drive a line this long?  Our old VAX 780
handles lines over 13 stories long :-)

BTW: does anyone out there have a source for CHEAP RJ-45 cables
that'll work on a 3B2?  I don't have access to the crimp connector, so
making my own is effectively out of the question.  How about those
terminal adapters?  I foud the "make 'em yourself" variety for about
$5 each.  Anybody know of a more reasonable price?  Of course, buying
from AT&T is probably insane.

Any help would be appreciated.

j
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From: gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: 3b2 E-ports top speeds?
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:21:51 GMT

In article <By1JJ7.1Hp@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> wee@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Operator) writes:
>Could someone out there give me the limits on the E-ports card?
>
>So far, from my own experiments, it seems only one
>port can go up to 38400/19200 with hardware flow control, while
>the rest of the ports have to be XON/XOFF.  But I can use
>hardware flow control on numerous ports if no port is set 
>above 9600.

I have 4 modems on one EPORTS card, 3 locked at 19.2K and
one at 38.4K.  All have HFC enabled.  I did have to use
the HFC hacks described in the FAQ to make it all work.

-greg

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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Longest possible 3B2 serial runs?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:07:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.025755.5214@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> jeffrey@sci.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Jeffrey L Bromberger) writes:
"I'm interested in figuring out how long a run I can make from my 3B2.
"Hopefully, I can pull about 75 feet of cable from a terminal to the
"main machine - can the 3B2 drive a line this long?  Our old VAX 780
"handles lines over 13 stories long :-)

yes, even at 19200.  if you use lo-cap cable, you can probably triple
this [at least].

"BTW: does anyone out there have a source for CHEAP RJ-45 cables
"that'll work on a 3B2?  I don't have access to the crimp connector, so
"making my own is effectively out of the question.  How about those
"terminal adapters?  I foud the "make 'em yourself" variety for about
"$5 each.  Anybody know of a more reasonable price?  Of course, buying
"from AT&T is probably insane.

dunno [we made our own], but i do know this:  most rj-45 cables are
wired 1-1, 2-2, etc.  the infamous at&t black rj-45 cables are wired
1-8, 2-7, etc.  we made ours by taking flat cable and giving it a
half-twist...
[minor flame -- why didn't They pair signals on the rj-45 connector
symmetrically, so that straight through would be 'straight through',
but half-twist would be 'null modem'?]

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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Is there a list of 3b2 ftp sites?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:02:08 GMT

In article <2832.2b03cb25@vger.nsu.edu> a_sudan@vger.nsu.edu writes:
"Greetings,
"
"I have a question, is there a list of ftp sites
"which allow anonymous ftp login with the 3b2 / 600?
"  I have ftp'd to the sites in the FAQ and would like
"a more complete list.   Any help would be appreciated.

look in comp.sources.misc for the anon. ftp list.

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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:46:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.091546.4597@u.washington.edu> carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke) writes:
"While reading through _The Whole Internet User`s Guide & Catalog_
"by Ed Krol, it mentions a "u3b" newsgroup with "Discussions related
"to the AT&T 3B computer series." (page 131)  Does anyone know any
"sites that carry this?

*we* carry it... ;^>

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From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:42:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.155941.5557@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
>Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
>360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

Congruent Technologies in Austin Texas has a package for the 3B2
called 3B-2-PC.  Among the things it does is allow 3B2s to read and
write DOS-format 360k diskettes.  I've never tried it, so this isn't
an endorsement, but you can reach them at 800-282-8649 or 512-346-4761.

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From: friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Anybody know about rlogin for OSI networking?
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:38:46 GMT
Organization: Steve's Personal machine / Tustin, CA

Hi Folks,

     A customer with a pair of 3B2s is running OSI networking
(with Starlan), and they are about to go with RFS to share disk
files.  They also want to run rlogin and remote shell services
between the two, but we hear that this kind of thing is only
available via TCP/IP.

     The cost of TCP/IP for two machines is not very much under
$10k (!), and they are unexcited about this route.  I have used
TCP on the 3B2 and have not been really impressed with the
quality of implementation.

     Anybody have any ideas on how we can do this?  I know so
little about networking internals that I have no idea how hard it
would be to convert the TCP/IP utilities that do this to the OSI
business, but it would not surprise me if this is nontrivial.  It
would surprise me even more if I were the only one who ever had
this requirement.

     Anybody got any ideas?  We don't mind rolling our own as
long as we have some prospect of a reliable solution.

     Please respond via email; the customer is pretty hot for
this.

     Stephen

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From: jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick)
Subject: 3B2/400 and dos floppies
Organization: OAKNET - public access unix
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:59:41 GMT

Does anybody know of a program that would allow me to read
360k dos floppy disks on a 3B2/400? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
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From: rholbert@coffee.lerc.nasa.gov (Rick Holbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.proteon
Subject: P4200 routers and FDDI
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:50:46 GMT
Reply-To: rholbert@coffee.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA-Lewis Research Center

I am posting this to try and determine if anyone listening out there uses 
p4200 routers with FDDI interfaces in them and if so what problems/resolutions
you have had with their implementation.

We have had problems with the routers losing contact with their neighbors on
the ring and not being able to pass traffic for about a 1 minute period. They 
then mysteriously start communicating again on their own. The router itself 
never goes down because we can still talk to it through its console, but the
FDDI interface seems to be confused. We have noticed the routers will get into
a cycle of doing this and the only way to clear it is to physically power 
the router off and back on again.

The problem has been reported to both our regional support rep and HQ. HQ
responded with some things to watch with the ELS monitor which we are still
waiting to try out( the problem hasn't occurred since I have reported -
Don't it figure).

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From: tim@fsg.com (Timothy Hunt)
Subject: Re: SPARC fault tolerant platforms?
Organization: Fusion Systems Group, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:35:51 GMT

robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson) writes:

>The subject says it all: does Stratus or anyone else sell a SPARC fault
>tolerant machine?

The following is a brief decription of our product "High Availability
for Sun".  Its not fault tolerant, but provides a significant
improvement in service reliability over a traditional configuration.

HA for Sun supports a configuration with a primary and alternate
Sun Servers which are configured with shared access to disk storage.
In the event of a failure of software or hardware on the primary machine,
services can be automatically transferred to the alternate, providing
a minimum interuption of service to the network clients.

If you would like any more information please contact me, or our Sales
Director, Harvey Rand (harvey@fsg.com).

Tim Hunt
Fusion Systems Group, Inc. New York (212)285-8001
Newsgroups: comp.sys.stratus,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: gregw@highland.oz.au (Greg Wilkins)
Subject: Fault Tolerant SPARC project suspended
Organization: Highland Logic
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 03:57:23 GMT


Highland Logic's Fault Tolerant SPARC project has been suspended due to
the collapse of it's latest financing arrangements with Shared
Investment Ltd. and ISR Holdings.

The project was conceived and financed by Robert Reid, the architect
and patent holder of the STRATUS Fault Tolerant computer system. After
three years of design and simulation work, Highland Logic is ready to
manufacture a refined hardware fault tolerant design, fully compatible
with the Sun Microsystems line of computers.  Unfortunately, three
separate attempts to finance the manufacture have collapsed and
Highland Logic is no longer able to finance operations.

Technically the project has gone from strength to strength, and has had
good non-financial support from Sun Microsystems.  The inability to
secure a business package has been primarily due to:

 1) The Australian IT industries reluctance to provide seed capital to 
    local projects with any degree of risk.

 2) The world IT industries lack of interest in investing in the Australian
    IT industry when Australian companies will only commit to second 
    round funding.

 3) The Australian Government's refusal to assist with seed capital unless
    a commercial financial structure is already in place.

 4) The lack of a world-wide marketing structure for Australian IT products.

All indications are that there exists a good market for the product and
that the UNIX & SPARC communities requires a low cost hardware Fault
Tolerant solution.

As Highland Logic has exhausted its avenues for additional funding, we 
publicly invite any offers to continue this project in any form.

Greg Wilkins (Software Manager) @ Highland Logic 
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       Email : gregw@highland.oz.au
       Phone : (+61 48) 683490  or direct: (+61 2)8107029
       Fax   : (+61 48) 683474
From: postmaster@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.stratus
Subject: a test you may safely ignore 00
Date: 21 Nov 92 11:15:22 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

This is a test.  Dull but necessary.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.stratus
From: ttraub@world.std.com (Terry Traub)
Subject: Re: awk for Stratus VOS
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:22:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.151954.4729@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dante@decoy.uucp (25439-dante) writes:
>Does anybody know of a version of UNIX's awk for Stratus's VOS?
>
>Joe Dante 
>dante@decoy.cc.bellcore.com

There is a brain-damaged version of awk for VOS where I work; I might
be able to find the source.  It does not allow for multiple lines in
scripts, and many features (e.g., substr) are not implemented.  We do
have a version of perl, and it seems pretty complete so far, but I've
only been playing with it for a couple of days, during compiles.

I'm interested in the same kind of things:  a complete port of GNU
emacs, awk, tcsh, etc.  Has anybody done these things (especially the
emacs)???? Thanks,

Terry
From: cm@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Charles Meo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.stratus
Subject: Re: SPARC fault tolerant platforms?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:36:29 +1100
Organization: Solbourne Computer Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

norcott_bill@tandem.com (Bill Norcott) writes:

>In article <1dr3lqINNcf0@transfer.stratus.com>, Paul_Green@vos.stratus.com writes:
>|> Stratus sells a fault-tolerant Unix V.4 product; V.4 and Solaris are 
>|> pretty close. 

>Tandem's NonStop-UX is a fault-tolerant UNIX System V Release 4, so
>the same observation applies.

I haven't been following this thread up to now but feel I must make a couple
of observations. 

I think it is important to be clear about what we are going to call a fault-
tolerant system. In it's simplest form, it's a system where a failure in 
hardware will not interrupt system availability--e.g, mirrored disk drives
and voting CPU, memory and I/O controllers. This usually entails triple
redundancy because of the logic inherent in a voting architecture.

To the best of my knowledge there are no fault-tolerant SPARC systems, though
work is in progress in several quarters. I can't think of a SPARC vendor whose 
system bus currently has the necessary paths for the boards to talk to each
other, though the most likely form of solution is a single board containing
multiple voting subunits.

Tandem has (according to their glossies) gone a step beyond and provided 
what they call software fault tolerance by puddling through SVR4 and reducing
a possible 1500-odd panics and fatal errors to 20 or something. Now, this seems
like good sense to me--perhaps they should sell it to everyone!

Of course, I take it $$$ are no object since you are looking at a fault-tolerant
solution. None of this comes cheap, and this sort of conflicts with the driving
force behind SPARC.

There is another way of doing something similar, which is called High 
Availability in marketing speak. This is not a true fault tolerance, and the
implementation is vendor-specific. What you might get is two cooperating
systems, which will normally have their own tasks, but control software 
monitors them and cuts over critical applications to the designated backup
system in the event of problems. 

You want fault-tolerance with an affordable price tag? Hah!

Chuck

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From: nin15b0b@merrimack.edu (David E. Sheafer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: spartados patch/scrambled directories
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:03:57 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In a recent issue of AIM (somtime this summer I think), there was reference
to a patch for SpartaDos that eliminated the problem of scrambling directories
on hard drives.

I haven't been able to find this patch on either Genie or Compuserve (could be
looking in the wrong place), if anyone knows if its on either of these systems
or which BBS it is on, please let me know.

thanks in advance,
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Subject: SuperPill
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:11:32 GMT

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