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From: mtrayer@bnr.ca (Mark Trayer)
Subject: RE: Oh.... Sorry Goochie.......
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:20:26 GMT

An update on Gooch's missing hundred .... he is about to have
it back !The original comment was made by John Stephenson, secretary
of the ICC, who said that the century Gooch scored (in 1982
I believe) when he was part of the rebel tour of South Africa,
did not count.  This was because the 'unofficial test' did not
qualify as a first class match !!!!  

This decision was derided by nigh on everybody, but especially
cricket statisticians, who would have had a bit of a rewrite on
their hands.  Past editors of Wisden (and the current one) 
also openly condemned the statement.

However, it is understood (according to Matthew Engel in this
mornings Guardian) that John Stephenson will make a 
statement this morning re-instating Gooch's missing hundred !
So he should now be back on 99 first class centuries.  That 
is assuming that this is what the man from the ICC is going
to say.  Bizarre, but thats the ICC for you.

Mark.
From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA vs India latest score...
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:52:35 GMT
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
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SA are 48/2 after 33 overs.

Indian bowlers are bowling some tight bowling.

Keppler Wessles was dropped by Kiran More earlier.

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From: fvs6261                        
Subject: Why was Azza kept as capain?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:11:00 GMT

I would not be surprised if the captain was retained because the 
selectors did not want to add to the Hindu-muslim tensions.  I know
this is silly, but the selectors are known to be irrational!!!
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
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Curious?
From: iermkoll@engvms.unl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: testtesttest
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:26:48 CST
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
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ihlfsidlkfjlkjlkjlkcjxklv




this is a test
this is a test

test
From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: J. Taylor in England Team
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:47:43 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

In article AA03311@mensa.cc.deakin.OZ.AU, Philip Shead <drinnen@deakin.edu.au> () writes:
>  Simple question. Who he is and what does he do?


Fast medium bowler, plays for northants, i'd not heard of him before the 1992 season.

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! "back off man, i'm a scientist"
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
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Subject: Pak vs WI
From: hossain@latcs1.lat.oz.au ( )
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:09:48 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

Pak 72 all out (23.4 overs)

Batting (not in order)
======================
Miandad 0
Inzamum 0
Salim   8
Anwar   2
Saeed   1
Akram  19
Latif  22 n.o.
Waqar   0
Mushtaq 2
Aaqib   4 

Bowling
=======
Ambrose 3/32
Bishop 5/25
Benjamin 2/16
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Shivanand Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Wills Trophy
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:44:19 -0800
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In article <1993Jan12.183033.143@cc.gatech.edu> sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea) writes:

	Stuff deleted [...]

>Prasad however bowled quite well. Shiva was in the Wills XI side- he gave 
				   ^^^^^
>away 18 runs in 2 overs!

	Are we talking about Sivaramakrishnan?

>
From: zabdi@bucknell.edu (Zakir Abdi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pak/Aus ODI match any News...
Keywords: Hydrocarbons..
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:00:00 GMT
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	Please send any news stating that Pak were all out for 62 runs.
	Nowadays we are quite use to it.

	Regard

	Zakir Abdi
From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Re: King Kapil's no. of wickets
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:08:24 GMT


In article <C0E1yM.1vD@unccsun.uncc.edu>, mfkhan@uncc.edu  writes:
>
>It is difficult to believe some one is coming close to Gavaskar's
>record run tally.

Border will probably pass it sometime in the next two tests.

In <XSI03SN@gwdu03.gwdg.de> jkleins@gwdgv1.gwdg.de writes:
| Border has just crossed the 10,000 run mark.

He now has 10053

I don't remember the 
| exact no. of runs he has scored but he is less than a hundred runs
| behind Gavaskar's total of 10,152 runs.

Gavaskar's is 10122 - that's just 69 ahead.

kre
From: rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran)
Subject: Commentary on India/England Series???
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 05:40:35 GMT


Does anyone know if it will be possible to pick up commentary on the
forthcoming series in this part of the world (California, USA). If so, could
you please post or email the frequencies and times it will be available.

Thank you very much in advance.

Rohan
-- 

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From: sanjay@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Sanjay K. Mazumdar)
Subject: Re: Shastri.....
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:30:04 GMT

In article <kNg=p7A@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>Since I did'nt see this on the net, I thought it would be a good idea to post..
>Apparently, Shastri underwent surgery for a hernia. The injury occured during
>the final stages of the RSA tour. This came from The Times of India. It did'nt
>make much sense to me because the news ietm was dated 18th or 19th of Dec - I
>could ahve sworn he played after that day.
>Anyone with more info?
>
>Sudhama
>

Shastri did undergo surgery, but it was knee surgery. I'm not sure of the
exact nature of the operation, but it was on the same knee he had problems
with when in Australia. I think his operation was just before Christmas.

-- 
Sanjay Mazumdar
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From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Shivanand Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pak/Aus ODI match any News...
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:14:08 -0800
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Keywords: Hydrocarbons..


	Okay Pakistan were all out for 62 runs. Latif scored 30 not out.
From: kpw105@huxley.anu.edu.au (Ken Wessen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pakistan v WI
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:38:01 GMT
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Well, not being happy with their world's worst ever 5-14 performance in
Sydney, Pakistan have broken their own record and were at one stage 5-12
against the WI in Brisbane today.  And Phil Simmons has not even bowled
yet!
I wonder why Pakistan dont just play Javed, Akram and Younis.
The score is now 6-54 after 18 overs with Akram having scored most of the
runs.
I suppose he is going to have to take most of the wickets as well. Again.

Anyway, I think the plight of Pakistan just goes to show just how tenuous
any team's world standing actually is.  All teams (including Sri Lanka)
have so many good players, that if they are in form they can beat anyone,
but if out of form, can produce the most appalling performances.  India and
Pakistan seem to be illustrating this most effectively at the moment, but
all teams are capable of both extremes.

Akram just got out for 19.  Pak 7-55 in the 19th.

I'm a bit reticent to send this because I think the minute I post another
wicket will fall!

Indeed another just has!  Younis is out.  Pak 8-55.

Well Pakistan had better do something about their batting if they want to
retain any respect in world cricket.  It's a pity that their batsmen are
not supporting what is in my opinion the greatest bowling attack in the
world.

Anyway, bye for now.  If I get a chance I will post another update, but I
dont know if there is any doubt on what the outcome of this match will be.

Ken
From: desikan@bucknell.edu (sridhar desikan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Gooch Cocktail Party........
Date: 7 Jan 1993 09:12:46 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
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In article <1ig00aINNfoi@hpsdl143.sdd.hp.com>, pad@sdd.hp.com (R. Padmanabhan) writes:
|> In article <19506.2b4b0983@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
|> >	How many batsmen did open the innings for England with Graham 
|> >Gooch?  Who are they?  How many batsmen did open with Sunil Gavaskar?
|> >Well, read this article (Thanks: Charles Randall, The Daily Telegraph).
|> >
|> >
|> >======
|> >
|> >Well.  There were 15 batsmen accompanied Gooch to face the opening bowlers
|> >of the world.  Thery are:
|> >
|> >01. Mike Brearley                        02. Geoff Boycott 
|> >03. Chris Tavare                         04. Geoff Cook
|> >05. Tim Robinson                         06. Mark Benson
|> >07. Martyn Moxon                         08. Bill Athey
|> >09. Chris Broad                          10. Tim Curtis
|> >11. John Stephenson                      12. Wayne Larkins
|> >13. Mike Atherton                        14. Hugh Morris
|> >15. Alec Stewart
|> >
|> >Someone else may tell us who walked in with Gavaskar to open for India.
|> >
|> >======
|> >
|> >Vicky:
|> >UMass, Jan 06
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>   I can think of the following names. I am sure there are a few more.
|> 
|>   Abid Ali  
|>   Jayantilal 
|>   Ashok Mankad 
|>   Vengsarkar
|>   Solkar
|>   Engineer 
|>   Gaekwad
|>   Chauhan
|>   M.Amarnath 
|>   Srikanth 
|>   Shastri
|>   Pronab Roy
|>   Arun Lal
|>   Ghulam Parkar
|>   Parthasarthy Sharma
|>   Sudhir Naik
|>

T.E. Srinivasan - for one test I believe ...
Navjot Sidhu

desikan
 
|> 
|>   -  Paddy.
|> 
|>
From: sivap-m@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Muhunthan Sivapragasam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re:  What happened between England and Delhi PLEASE!
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:41:46 GMT
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Originator: sivap-m@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

> What happened  in the 3-day game between England and Delhi ?

	from my vague recollection of yesterdays BBC sports roundup ..

	the match was drawn. England collapsed yesterday by losing the
last 5 wickets for 40 runs or so. Kirti Azad took 6 wickets. Then
Delhi scored 150+ for 2 with Ajay Sharma scoring a 50 + and sharing
a 120 run stand with Bantoo Singh.
-- 
						S. Muhunthan,

	"The shortest distance between two people is a smile"
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Subject: Re: England v Pakistan result?
From: shariq@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:50:51 GMT
Reply-To: shariq@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Dec31.171532.9186@maths.tcd.ie>, debfin@maths.tcd.ie (Debbie Finucane) writes:
>
>Hi,
>  Can anyone tell me which was the only ENGLISH County to
>beat PAKISTAN in 1992 ?
>
>Thanks,
>      Debbie
>
>-- 
>   Do not use harmful words,but only helpful words, || Debbie Finucane
> the kind that build up and provide what is needed, ||(debfin@maths.tcd.ie)
> so that what you say will do good to those who     ||Trinity Collage Dublin,
> hear you.   <Ephesians 5.29>                       ||  Ireland.             


I believe it was Worcestershire.

Shariq
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Subject: NZ v Pak D4 A wicket falls
From: awil2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Andrew James        Willmott       )
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:27:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

Jones is out for 19, clipping a ball from Waqar very firmly away for four,
only to see it go straight into the hands of Aquib at bat-pad who held
a tremendous catch; it was really travelling.

NZ are 66/4, chasing 127.
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From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: New Zealand batting collapse
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:23:23 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

We can hardly believe our ears here, New Zealand, chasing 127 to win have
slumped from 65-4 to 88-9. Three wickets have fallen at 88. Akram and Waqar are
the destroyers for Pakistan. The collapse began with a superb catch by Aamir
Sohail to dismiss Jones. Patel and Owens are at the wicket, with 39 still to 
get. 
-- 
Tom Higham,                    
Radiocarbon Dating Lab,
University of Waikato,
Hamilton,
NEW ZEALAND.
Higham@waikato.ac.nz /
C14@waikato.ac.nz
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pak win by 33 runs - the swing demons do it again
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:57:02 ACST
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
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In article <1iaq54INNb2q@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:



> lead.  I am hoping that this starts a cricket_is_better_than_American_
> football debate :):)

Gee, draughts (checkers) and chess are better than American football - at least
the breaks between the action are shorter!!

regs

Rob


:-)

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From: cen466p@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (S. Parthasarhathy)
Subject: WI-AUS, WSC @ Gabba, WI 9-197, AUS 190 all out
Organization: Dept. of Chem. Engg., Monash University, Australia
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:41:30 GMT

WI 9-197 (Hooper 56, Williams 25 n.o, Haynes 36, Lara 10, Richardson 1,
          Logie 26, Benjamin 17, Walsh 12, Cummins 1, Patterson 1 n.o
          Arthurton 2, Reiffel 3-33 (also took 2 catches and a run out))

AUS 190 all out (49 overs)

D. Boon   c Williams    b Patterson   3
D. Jones  c Williams    b Patterson   0
M. Taylor c Richardson  b Cummins    20
S. Waugh  c Logie       b Walsh      24
A. Border               b Hooper     11
M. Waugh   run out (Lara-Williams)   54
P. Reiffel run out(Logie)             4
I. Healy   lbw          b Walsh      41
C. McDermott run out                  7
M. Whitney run out (Logie)            2
T. May     not out                    3
Sundries                              ?
                                    190  (allout)
Patterson 10 - 0 - 2 - 31
Benjamin  10 - 1 - 0 - 32
Hooper     9 - 0 - 1 - 43
Walsh     10 - 2 - 2 - 41
Cummins   10 - ? - 1 - 27

WI wins by a margin of 7 runs. They have 10 points from their 8 matches. WI
reached the finals with yesterday's win over PAK.
So WI rested  Simmons, Ambrose, Bishop, Adams and Murray
   brought in Logie, Williams, Cummins, Walsh, Patterson

AUS replaced Damien Martyn with captain Border who missed
previous matches due to hamstring injury.

West Indies Wicket Keeper Williams had a horrific day, despite a good
batting. Missed a straight forward catch, can be held responsible for
the dropped catch of Lara (I slip), [both for Mark Taylor in same over
of Patterson], Missed a stumping chance for M. Waugh (off Hooper) and
fumbled a chance to ran out Ian Healy. missed two catches from McDermott
(one off Patterson).

M. Taylor also was bowled off a no ball from Patterson who bowled
exceptionally well.

PAK has two matches (one at MCG and other at SCG) against AUS. AUS must loose
very badly AND PAK must perform exceptionally well. PAK nearly should have to
perform a miracle (I will try to post the details tomorrow after seeing the
newspapers) to reach finals ( their net run rate is very poor, after
yesterdays' loss against WI). Realistically, AUS will meet WI in the finals.
But you can never say anything about PAK and may be .....

WI   8 matches -- 10 points
AUS  6 matches --  7 points ( has a better run rate)
PAK  6 matches --  3 points ( has a much lower run rate)
-- 

Parthasarathy
Chemical Engg
Monash Uni
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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Indian Team.
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:13:53 GMT

In <6647@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> rsp@ukc.ac.uk (R.S.Pickett) writes:


>Here is the Indian team that has been announced for the coming matches. I'm
>not sure if its just for the ODI's or if it includes the tests as well.

	Aha! I like this... for several reasons: Chetan, Bannerjee, More
needed to go, and Manjrekar needed a 'rest'. I'm a little sad re Jadeja,
but his axing is quite understandable....

>N Sidhu

	Yeah, I am a bit of a Sidhu fan, and it is nice to see him back,
even if it is only for the ODIs.

>V Kambli

	This one was practically a certainty. No surprise really... Now
don't let us down VeeKay!

>V Yadav

	Now this, I like. More has been around for too long without
ever being a safe keeper. Fine, his batting has saved the day a few times,
but that ought not be the criterion for selecting the keeper. Any comments
on Yadav's keeping, from those who saw him in RSA?

>R Chauhan

	Interesting! This guy's being pushed into the 'real thing'
pretty quickly. He's not been around for long, and as far as I can
recall, has not been in the news before this Ranji season. However,
this is a good time for experimenting, and the experience may do him
good. He will probably make it to the team ahead of Raju, as the second
spinner (Shastri is also not around).

>S Ankola

	Yessss! Ankola should have been there in RSA/Zim really, rather
than the passengers Bannerjee and Sharma. I was hoping Chetan Sharma
would do something big, and justify getting in ahead of Ankola, but his
days now seem to be well and truly over. I'm afraid however that Ankola
won't get to play - unless they play four pacers, which seems unlikely
to me, especially on Indian pitches.

>S Raju

	Yeah.... I guess.... :->


	The others were sure picks, I suppose. Shastri is missing, but 
that may be because of injury. He will surely replace whichever one of
Raman/Sidhu fails in the Tests, and going by the recent record, that 
shouldn't take long :-(

>Rob.

Thanks, Rob.


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From: cen466p@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (S. Parthasarhathy)
Subject: PAK-AUS, 51 runs needed off 18 balls
Organization: Dept. of Chem. Engg., Monash University, Australia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:42:59 GMT

Inzamam ul Huq n.o                         28
Rashid Latif   n.o                          0
Sundry                                      1
                                    6 for 161
18 balls, 51 runs                                           
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From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Oh....  Sorry Goochie......
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:02:28 GMT

	According to a spokesman of Test and County Cricket Board, English
cricket captain Graham Gooch will have to score more runs  than he thought
to reach the  milestone of one hundred  first class centuries.  One of the
99 hundreds  credited to him so far  does not count  because it was scored
during the 1982 rebel English tour of South Africa. The tour was not recog-
nized by the International Cricket Council so the score would not stand.
                
	Gooch, 39 year old opener, would be the 23rd to join a select band
of cricketers who scored 100 or more centuries in their careers.

Vicky:
UMass, Jan 06

Summarized from a Reuter report.
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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Pakistan vs West Indies, Brisbane, January 9
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:22:44 GMT

In <726550605@thames.cs.duke.edu> vs@duke.cs.duke.edu (Vijay Srinivasan) writes:

[scorecard deleted]

>Match summary
>-------------
>right at him to the man in the covers. Latif all the time looked
>good, but did not get enough of the strike to push the score along.
>He smashed Hooper for two successive fours, which was one of the
>few highlights in the Pakistani innings.

	Yet another impressive performance with the bat by Latif, or at
least, in stark contrast to the top order's dismal show. I remember
Shamim also praised his batting during the England tour, and all in
all, he seems to be Pakistan's most correct batsman at the moment. Is
it conceivable that he could be pushed up the order ? Seems to me that
he's wasted right now at #8 (or 7). Maybe something like India's
experiment with Shastri/Prabhakar could be tried.....


>The West Indies bowling was straight and fast, no great swing, nothing
>spectacular. The Pakistanis were out to poor shots and displayed bad judgement,

	For Chrissake, bring in Shoaib! He's not the type to succumb in
this fashion, is he ?

>Internet:	vs@cs.duke.edu



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From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Pak win by 33 runs - the swing demons do it again
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:20:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.153603.13948@maths.nott.ac.uk> anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.015016.11181@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
>mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>	[of the WI]
>>(and that despite being the biggest draw in world cricket).
>
>	Those days are long past.  In the 50's, 60's and 70's, WI were
>worth going to see, win, draw or lose.  In Worrell, Sobers and [initially]
>Lloyd, they had captains who wanted to play cricket.  But Lloyd became
>obsessed with winning, and Richards likewise.  Well, they succeeded, and
>it cannot be denied that they had teams of massive talent;  but they also
>succeeded, over the last decade or so, in alienating the public.  I hope
>that Richardson is successful, not only in re-building another great team,
>but also in re-kindling the spirit of Worrell and Sobers.

In alienating the english maybe, but the rest of the world ( especially
the pakistanis) enjoyed there version of cricket.  It is fascinating to
see four fast bowlers in on e team of very high calibre and batsmen like
richards and greenidge who could rip any bowling apart.
Ofcourse maybe the english have a totally different idea about cricket
from the rest of the world especially if they have been on the losing end.

sahibzada rafay khan