HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: judim@wes.on.ca (Judi Mota)
Subject: Re: Stephen King on "Whoopi"
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:53:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.220256.20136@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
>If you wanted to see it, and missed it, don't feel bad.  Nothing
>exciting to report.  Whoopi herself was really more interesting
>than King--apparently she's a horror fan from way back, a devoted
>reader (unusual in itself), and she grew up with Zacherley and

I have to say this.

King was talking about things that he thinks about that would scare him.
For instance, he said something about being in the bathroom, using the 
toilet and something comes *out* of the shower and grabs him.  Not like 
Pyscho were the girl is in the shower and something comes *in*.

Yesterday, I moved into my boyfriend's townhouse and was extremely busy
putting things away, etc.  At one point I'm in the bathroom putting 
stuff in the medicine cabinet over the toilet and the thought about what
King had said ran through my head.  Right at that moment a cold wet hand
grabbed the back of my neck!  I screamed at the top of my lungs and took
off out of the bathroom and down the stairs to the kitchen where my 
boyfriend was just coming to see what had happened.  Of course, halfway
through my flight, my mind realized that it was his 15 year old son!  He
had watched the show with us and on Sunday when I had stepped out of the 
bathroom to grab another box, he slipped in and waited for the most 
opportune moment.  He got it! 

He also did the same thing to me later on when I was working in the bedroom
and he hid in the closet.  I spent the rest of the day looking around 
corners after I left a room and came back!

I don't think I would have reacted so strongly if King hadn't made that
suggestion though!  Sorry, hope I didn't take up too much of your time, 
but I had to tell this!

Judi (I'm such a sucker at times) Mota 

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson)
Subject: Re: Dean Koontz GOOD??! Puh-LEEZ
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Surrey B.C. CANADA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:38:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.020856.21334@Princeton.EDU> datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
>	I hate doing this. What I really wanted to do was rip ol' Dean
>up one side and down the other...
>	But I've got to admit, his characters are three-dimensional
>people. I find myself rooting for them in spite of myself, and
>constantly wish he'd write novels where his old characters get back
>together. Maybe the Dakotas from _The_Bad_Place_ could help that kid
>Scott from, uh, that one with the weird robopeople doohickeys? Ah well.

Maybe his characters are three dimensional, but they are really 
unremarkable. The net effect on me, is to not give a damn about the 
story. In fact, I've never managed to finish a Koontz book which I 
started reading (and I do finish almost all of the books that I 
start). 

Back to Stephen King, nah? I'd go to Ligotti, Machen, Etchison, 
Shirley Jackson, Mark Morris, Lovecraft, Clark Ashton Smith,
Aickman, Blackwood, Joseph Payne Brennan, Ramsey Campbell, 
Joe Lansdale, Tanith Lee, David Schow, Karl Edward Wagner, Lisa
Tuttle, Steve Tem, Melanie Tem, Poppy Z. Brite,  ...&c.
 
Incidentally, if you have access to Necrofile 6, take a look at the
article by S.T. Joshi. It provides a very insightful analysis of recent
trends in horror/weird fiction. 

Mark
P.S. I'm not trying to start another King/Koontz flame war here. I'm
just stating my personal taste. I'm not asserting that my preferences
are any "better" or any more "valid" than anyone else's.
-- 
Mark Henderson, SoftQuad Inc, 108-10070 King George Hwy, Surrey, B.C. V3T 2W4
Internet:  markh@wimsey.bc.ca, mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca, mch@holonet.net
UUCP: {van-bc,sq}!sqwest!mch Telephone: +1 604 585 8394  Fax: +1 604 585 1926
RIPEM public key available by Email/finger mch@holonet.net/keyserver
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: H.P.LOvecraft
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:34:57 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

s13989bc@UMASSD.EDU writes:

>   I feel that Lovecraft is a master of horror writing, The scary
> thing about his writing is enhanced by his style. The fact that the monsters
>  are often beyond human comprehension makes them much worse than some
> kid with a hormone problem and a hockey mask. Not meaning to be rude,
> but I feel that HPL  is probable one of the greatest horror writers of 
> the twetieth century

 
 Your points are valid, but (his awful prose style aside), HPL's biggest 
problem was the almost complete lack of well-rendered main characters. 
Nothing human contrasts the inhuman, and his books are very cold because 
of it.
 
marlowe

------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark BBS
pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mgraham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Malcolm Graham)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 02:13:58 GMT

frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier) writes:

>I also thing it was excellent. The only thing I didn't like was the
>ending. Oldman and Hopkins were great!! They tried to make it much more
>erotic than I expected. It does follow Stoker's book very well. 
>About the Texan, Quincy is in the book also. Also, if you watch the vers
on
>made by the BBC in 1977 that they show on PBS every once in awhile he is
>in that also. The character isn't in that version or the book is the guy
>that Lucy decided to marry.  In the book she was to marry Quincy.

>I highly recommend this movie.

>Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)


In the novel, Lucy is to marry Arthur Holmwood, not Quincey Morris or Dr.
Seward though she has proposals from all three.  Holmwood was played by
Cary Elwes in Coppola's "Dracula."  Fascinating novel, I just wrote a term
paper on it.

--Mgraham
Newsgroups: alt.horror,alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.fandom,alt.fandom.misc
From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Subject: Dean Koontz GOOD??! Puh-LEEZ
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University (of course I don't speak for 'em!!)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:08:56 GMT

	I hate doing this. What I really wanted to do was rip ol' Dean
up one side and down the other. His plots are derivative and not well
thought out, inconsistency after inconsistency crops up in the work, and
the dialogue reads like he just ripped off a few bad horror movie
scripts.
	But I've got to admit, his characters are three-dimensional
people. I find myself rooting for them in spite of myself, and
constantly wish he'd write novels where his old characters get back
together. Maybe the Dakotas from _The_Bad_Place_ could help that kid
Scott from, uh, that one with the weird robopeople doohickeys? Ah well.
	I'm a-goin' back to Stephen King, though. Just my $.02...

Tep
-- 
I'm too sexy for meiosis.
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:55:29 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: alamo.intel.com
Originator: smintz@alamo


In article <1992Nov14.155928.26419@ra.oc.com>, frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier) writes:
> I also thing it was excellent. The only thing I didn't like was the
> ending. Oldman and Hopkins were great!! They tried to make it much more
> erotic than I expected. It does follow Stoker's book very well. 
> About the Texan, Quincy is in the book also. Also, if you watch the version
> made by the BBC in 1977 that they show on PBS every once in awhile he is
> in that also. The character isn't in that version or the book is the guy
> that Lucy decided to marry.  In the book she was to marry Quincy.
> 
> I highly recommend this movie.
> 
> Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)
Follows the book? And what version of the book did you read...the only thing in
common with the book the this movie had, was the title!!!
Stephen
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: slevine@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Steffan Levine)
Subject: more authors poll results
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:20:20 GMT

I have received 27 lists as of now and here are the results so far...

Stephen King                    mentioned on 52%
Dean Koontz                     37%
Clive Barker                    30%
Robert McCammon                 26%
H.P Lovecraft                   22%
Anne Rice                       19%
Robert Heinlein                 11%
John Saul                       11%
Peter Straub                     7%
J.R.R Tolkien                    7%
Tom Clancy                       7%
Douglas Adams                    7%
Tanya Huff                       7%
Nancy Collins                    7%
Harlan Ellison                   7%
Ramsey Campbell                  7%
Frank Herbert                    7%
Wendy & Richard Pini             4%
Mark Lovell                      4%
Leslie Chartesne                 4%
Jonathan Kellerman               4%
Berk Breathred                   4%
Thomas Harris                    4%
Orson Scott Card                 4%
Lawrence Watt-Evans              4%
Fritz Leiber                     4%
Terry Pratchett                  4%
Neil Gaiman                      4%
William Gibson                   4%
Tanith Lee                       4%
Brian Lumley                     4%
Ken Follett                      4%
John Farriss                     4%
Ray Bradbury                     4%
Robert Bloch                     4%
Ursula K. LeGuin                 4%
Gus Gavriel Kay                  4%
Tom Sharpe                       4%
Len Deighton                     4%
Mervyn Peake                     4%
Dan Simmons                      4%
Harry Harrison                   4%
R.A. Lafferty                    4%
John Le Carre                    4%
Shari S. Tepper                  4%
Charles DeLint                   4%
Madeline L'Engle                 4%
Chelsea Quinn Yarbro             4%
Kurt Vonnegut                    4%
John Wyndham                     4%
Arthue Conan Doyle               4%
Edgar Rice Burroughs             4%
Saki                             4%
Thomas Ligotti                   4%
Mark Morris                      4%
J.P. Brennan                     4%
Arthur Machen                    4%
Robert Ludlum                    4%
Clive Cussler                    4%
Isaac Asimov                     4%
Gerald Seymour                   4%
Harold Robbins                   4%
Robert E. Howard                 4%
Jack Yeovil                      4%


That's all of 'em so far (sorry about misspellings...)
For those of you who missed the post about the poll, but
are interested in participating, please e-mail me a list of
your five favorite authors (horror, or otherwise).



Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies
From: falkenha@ug.cs.dal.ca (Craig R. Falkenham)
Subject: Any crying in Dracula?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:39:31 GMT

I'm serious.  If you've actually read the book, you know that the characters
break into tears about every second page or so.  And I'm not just talking about
the women here, guys.  Most of the wimpering went on between Van Helsing,
Seward, Quincy, Jonathan Harker, and Lucy.  They would talk some, someone would
mention how much they loved the others, and they would all cry for about five
minutes.  It was nice, but after awhile I found it kind of funny.

Craig R. Falkenham
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: HPL
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:36:39 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:

> In article <wZu6TB4w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs
> >mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool) writes:
> >
> >> philip marlowe (pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca) wrote:
> >> :  
> >> :  Let's face reality here -- HPL was a LOUSY writer. His prose was so 
> >> : thick and convoluted that it's almost impossible to read -- almost 
> >> : Milton-esque, in a strange kind of way.
> >> :  
> >> :  That said, I do read his stuff every now and again because his 
> >> : imagination ALMOST overcomes the turgid prose...not an easy thing to do.
> >> :  
> >> 
> >> Expect a LOT of e-mail.
> >> 	--MLM
> >
> > 
> > Let 'em come...I'll take 'em on one at a time, or all at once.
> > HPL WAS a lousy writer.
> > 
> > And so is Dean R. Koontz.
> > 
> >marlowe
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark B
> >pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 	Let's REALLY face reality here.  H.P. Lovecraft revitalized horror
> literature.  In the roaring 20's, when it seemed nothing could go wrong and
> everyone was happy-go-lucky, HP dared to think of a bleak and uncaring 
> universe.  He was regarded as sick and twisted by the majority of his critics
> 	As for his prose, HP's main influences came from the Gothic horror
> genre, which is filled with atmosphere and lengthy description and very littl
> gore.  I'd agree that HP can be overly wordy at times, but you have to allow
> for the time period in which he was writing.  It's just as ignorant to say
> that Shakespeare sucks because his works are filled with "thou" this and
> "wherefor art" that.  He sucks for other reasons.
> 	Face facts, HPL directly influenced a great many current horror, sci-
> fi and fantasy writers.
> 
> 	BTW, I enjoyed Watchers and Twilight Eyes (w/ Dark Lightning) by
> Koontz a great deal, but have heard from many people that he doth verily
> suck when his work is taken as a whole.
> 
> 						Raymond H. Rich
> 						Arkham University
> 						Board of Admissions

 
 
 You're missing the point. Shakespeare was the Stephen King of his time 
-- he wrote clear, uncluttered dialogue that jibed with period audiences. 
HPL, on the other hand, was trapped in the past. He was writing just a 
little while before Hemmingway, but tried to (badly) immitate gothic 
density.
 
marlowe

------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark BBS
pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:01:42 -0500 
From: "Francis J. Yenca" <fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: PLEASE?
	<92328.134043U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>

Terrence Wilcze, Vampire writes:

>In article <20NOV199220441195@trentu.ca>, tsullivan@trentu.ca (The OTHER One
>True God) says:
>>
>>In article <92325.135359U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
>>writes...
>>Terrence Wilcze, Vampire.
>>
>>  It has been interesting and humourous to follow your rantings on both
>>alt.vampyres and here, but I think it's about time for you to cut your
>>caffene intake by about 80% or so. Oh, and I think you've read The Vampyre
>>Chronicles a few too many times.
>I've read the Vampyre Chronicles only once.  In fact, I've only read the
>Vampire Lestat, and annoyances such as these petty were-wannabe's constantly
>intrude upon my ability to even start the Queen of the Damned, who I'll be
>the husband of if I shall sit idly back and allow some fool to become some
>uncontrollable demon-thing that keep sprouting up on full moons.
>As to the comment about caffine intake, you're speaking to a creature who
>metabolizes blood.  I only have as much caffine as the person I drink from.
>(Perhaps I shouldn't have taken a nip out of that policewoman.  All that
>donut sugar and coffee doesn't settle well in my body.
>>  You  state as fact your personal theories (if you can call them that)
>That is what they are, personal theories from personal experiences.  Are you
>implying that I would lie to these people, or to you?  As to the dragon's
>blood theory, that is second hand legend knowledge, even though I have
>met dragons with similar abilities when I spent a few years back in the
>orient.
>>about the Werebeings and the "Kindred"/"Children"/Whatever (names given by
>>fiction authors) but it remains that you can spit and shout and type all
>>you want, but no one takes you seriously. I'd love to take you seriously,
>>drop by for a bite, and then I'll believe you. Til then, perhaps you should
>>end this charade and take up writing (you're quite eloquent, in a
>>stereotypical, fictionous, Lestat sort of way)...
>I write this way in defference to that's how I've been writing for the past
>hundred or so years.  However, my language, though flowery in my writings,
>is a little more modern, even though I tend to be eloquent with the women.
>>
>>   Tim Sullivan
>>   tsullivan@trentu.ca
>>   cstes@blaze.trentu.ca
>Hmmm.  Trent university, California.  I won't be travelling there any time
>soon, but perhaps one of my acquaintences might speak with you.  I do believe
>I shall phone Adam over the weekend.  I'm certain that an encounter with
>him will show you that there are more things on heaven and Earth than you
>care to know about.
>>
>>A Disclaimer? Yeah, and people BELIEVE what I write, too...
>Douglas has told me that I should put this at the end of my writings...
>
>;-)= (he calls it a vampire smiley).
>>---
>> "Virtual Reality has NOTHING on Calvin."
>>       - Suzy, from Calvin and Hobbes
>>
>Terrence Wilcze, Vampire.

Uh, yeah.

Well acted out, though

Frank
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: ferret@paradox.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: Werewolf Psudo-Science
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 13:38:30 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@paradox.engin.umich.edu


In article <By5Kvr.91K@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, cbnorman@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Bruce Norman) writes:
> First off, I've already received about ten requests to post my werewolf
> fiction, so I will :) It may take a week for me to find the time to break
> it into good chunks first though.
> 
> Anyway, I thought I'd start off the Wwolf discussion with "ideas" about 
> how werewolves could, psedo-scientificly, exist.  Warning, this note
> is somewhat of a "spoiler" as the ideas I'm discussing are ideas I use
> in my book.  I no way are the ideas I'm presenting below what I consider
> "plausable" :)
> 
[pseudo-scientific lecture deleted for clarity]
> 
> What does everyone think?
> 

	I think that your "science" is quite good.  It's very well thought out and contains sound reasoning.  It would be interesting to see the final form of this "lecture" once you get the minor details ironed out (created).

	I am looking foreward to your postings of the story thus far.

	Ken Lipka
	ferret@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: harsh@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Anish Harshad Masharani)
Subject: Re: Songs about werewolves
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:15:19 GMT

What about "Of Wolf and Man" by Metallica?
--
Both God and the government watch over us constantly,
	but we don't pay God taxes.

					The King of Fools

Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: bachmann@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Theo Bachmann)
Subject: Good werewolves/bad werewolves - a question ?
Originator: bachmann@puntan.cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:40:49 GMT


Keywords:good werewolf, bad werewolf, blood


There is no such thing as a bad werewolf. Humans just call us evil or as
mentioned in another article `bad`, because they don`t understand our nature.
Unlike them, we do not try to control our nature, called `beast` by the fools.
So we live in a deeper harmony than humans do and ever will. They just try to
master everything - especially themselves.
The killing of our prey (ah, humans) is not to feed, but an attempt to stop the
humans from destroying our enviroment...


see you at midnight

                  theo
 

Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: darvs00@DMI.USherb.CA (darvs)
Subject: Re: Werewolf
Organization: United Ascot Jam Lovers
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:08:13 GMT

In article <BxtKEA.JBM@DMI.USherb.CA> heonj00@DMI.USherb.CA (Crazy Jeff) writes:
>	I hereby declare Steve Darveau of the University Of Sherbrooke
>an authentic werewolf!

I'm flattered and I accept this title with great honor.

>	Let him speak for himself or be foerever lost in the dead of
>the night!
>
>	AAAAAAAHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUU!

I couldn't have said better.


>	All hail Steve 'darvs' Darveau, Master werewolf!

Many thanx... 


>-- 
>	'Mais si nous refusons l'amour qui nous est offert, si nous
>refusons d'aimer par crainte de tout perdre, alors notre vie sera vide de
>sens et la perte plus grande encore'
>		-Tanis dans un Dragonlance quelquonque

darvs, a werewolf in Sherbrooke.

-- 
Supa Skallen I Bitar
I am the Angel Of Death. The time of purification is at hand.
From: melchar@shakala.com (Barbara Haddad)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: Re: Sources, please?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:46:55 PST
Organization: Shakala - (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289

rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

> Can someone please suggest good books on werewolf folklore
> and fact? No fiction, please, I can find plenty of that.
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Yours under the full moon,
> --Semhaza

    IMHO, the best book on the subject is 'The Werewolf' by Montague John 
Summers.  It may be hard to find, but it's worth it.

------------------------------------------------------------------
Barbara Haddad  - melchar@shakala.com 
Shakala - (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:16:39 -0500 
From: Larry Lyle <ll24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Good Werewolf/Bad Werewolf ...
	<1992Nov17.131705.24859@news.columbia.edu>

	I think its interesting how diverse the consept of 'werewolf' can be.
While I know this is netnews.alt.HORROR.werewolves,  I cant help but
throw my two cents in as a lycanthrope, that werewolves arnt necesarily
'evil' or 'bad'...  and I am happy to read that occational story that
portreys them as, if not a good force, not evil either... 
	I admit there is a lot of resons for makeing a 'bad' werewolf..  if
nothing else it makes for a lot of suspence and thrills, indeed its
easier to write a 'bad' werewolf, and its certainly isnt what we were
brought up to believe...  But I'm sorta curious...  Are there any other
good werewolves out there?


De
The Werewolf at CMU.
Lycanthrope.
	
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: mlharley@unix1.tcd.ie (Kubik)
Subject: Re: more questions
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:39:14 GMT

What do you call an "ideal Werewolf" ???

Mark.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Harley...	         |  "Truth is, Belief is not required",  Gerry Roston.
mlharley@unix1.tcd.ie    |
(Kubik)		         |  "I am, Belief is not required",                Me. 
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Sources, please?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:19:34 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Can someone please suggest good books on werewolf folklore
and fact? No fiction, please, I can find plenty of that.
Thanks in advance!

Yours under the full moon,
--Semhaza
From: nelson@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Jeffrey J. Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:13:26 GMT
Reply-To: nelson@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Jeffrey J. Nelson)
Organization: University of Arizona Physics Department

In article <1992Nov16.174605.6648@ugle.unit.no>, gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
|> Hi! My name is Gard, and I'm not quite sure if I'm from Mars or if
|> I am a werewolf. Can anyone help?
|> 
|> /Gard (gardabr@unix1.mrih.no)

Ah that's easy.  Shoot yourself with a silver bullet, if you bleed
green blood, you are a Martian.  No green blood, werewolf.  'Course,
you probably die either way.

				- Jeff
Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves