HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3 (Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse)
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:26:34 GMT

In article <29E955E7.11875@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
<
<	Oh, that's why you want to CREATE some 6.4 compatibles so that
<	you can get an easy green card.

Certainly.  These "d-fighters" deliberately provoked a violent response
from the Chinese government three years ago so that they could get their
_xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3_.  They'd do it again if they had the chance.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhuang@csd.uwo.ca (Qingyu Zhuang)
Subject: Looking for friends in USA.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:53:12 GMT
Summary: Ran Li Mei, Li Hui Qi, and Liang Ming Xia

We want to contact a few friends who come from Beijing, China.
If you know any information about them, please tell me. Thanks !
They are : 
Ran Li Mei and her husband Li Hui Qi
Liang Ming Xia ( from Chemistry Department, Beijing Normal University )

Our addresses are :
Wang Peng
Department of Chemistry
The University of Western Ontario 
London, Ontario, N6A 5B7
Canada

Zhuang Qingyu
Department of Computer Science
The University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario N6A 5B7
Canada

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiao-lin li <xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: SCC Unsolved Mystery.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:05:32 -0500

In article <11APR199200391838@vxcrna.cern.ch> yang@vsoph8.cern.ch writes:

>  Don't bother, D-Fs hardly say anything real, Xiao li said the above because
>  he now know this Li Canhao is possiblly Li Peng's relative, so he just
>  want to "Tao4 Jin4 Hu". Be prepared Xiao li will tell you he and LI canhao
>  are brothers, 300 years ago.... somrthing like that.
>
>  D-Fs favourate topic is about who is who's son ('s mothers's brother's 
>  sister's ... in law's....uncle's......)

I think you are an idiot! 

First I am not a D-F. We are people!

Second the story is absolutely true. I swear to God.

What is the purpose of "Tao4 Jin4 Hu" with Li Peng or his
relative? This is a story which give me a strong feeling.
Li Canhao is bad if he has nothing to do with Li Peng. But
if he is really Li Peng's son-in-law, he is super. He has
a heart beating with people. I can forgive him as a son-in-law
of Li Peng. You and I might not be able to do that in his
position.

Xiao Li
From: cheng@lhasa.berkeley.edu (Da Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: TEST
Date: 11 Apr 1992 04:36:41 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: lhasa.berkeley.edu

this is a test!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody)
Subject: Re: When is Qing1 Ming2?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:00:20 GMT

In article <wangf.703124247@kynok.ucs.ubc.ca> wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) writes:
>In <1992Apr12.223842.21974@descartes.waterloo.edu> cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody) writes:
>
>>In article <wangf.703106206@kynok.ucs.ubc.ca> wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) writes:
>>>In <1992Apr12.165040.4001@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:
>>>
>>>>In article <!26t1r#@rpi.edu> leecj@cs.rpi.edu (Ching-ju Ashraf Lee) writes:
>>>>>Pat H. Yang
>>>
>>>>	April 4, 1992	:)   (not lunar calendar, of course.)
>>>
>>>
>>>We have Qing Ming for more than thousand years.  If it does not
>>>follow lunar (or Chinese calennar), what calendar does it  follow? And why?
>>>The term 'of course' does not sound clear to a fool like me.
>>>
>>>F. Wang
>
>>	In Chinese calendar, 24 Jie2 Qi4 are based on sun's motion (I know 
>>how solar system works. Don't be picky on this please.).
>>	Qing1 Ming2 is belong to 12 Jie2. So it is always located on April
>>5th. But this year is a leap year, so it become April 4th.
>>-- 
>
>Thanks a lot!  Now, the fool has more q's.  I thought Yin1 li4 is 
 <--1-->                <-2->
(1) You are welcome.
(2) Fool wouldn't have wanted to know so many things. So don't call your-
    self as fool. :)

>lunar canlender (actually, a net pointed two weeks ago the yin li---
>Chinese calender is neither lunar nor solar calender) and yang2 li4 is
>solar calender.  Now, forget the terms lunar or solar, the yin1 li4 and
>yang2 li4 really confuse me.  I don't understand why Jan. 1 in yin li 
>varies a lot in yang li but qin ming counted from yin li does no change
>in yang li unless in leap year. 
>
>F. Wang
>
	We call Chinese calendar as lunar calendar because it care about
moon more than sun. But it still consider sun's motion. 
	Every Chinese knows that we can't see moon on the first day of
a month in lunar calendar, but full moon on 15th. When it comes to
Jie2 Qi4, it only deal with sun. For example, sun is always right on
the top of Zodiac on Chung1 Feng1 and Chio1 Feng1. On Bei3(north) Hue2
Gue1 Xian4(line) when it comes to Xia4 Zhi4. Nan2(south) Hei2 Gue1 Xian4
on Dong1 Zhi4. Since Chinese calendar also consider sun's motion, so it
match certain days to solar calendar. Because Chinese did not know how 
westen people work on their calendar, so Jie2 Qi4 will be one day earilier
after Feb. 28th during leap years. So in a normal year, Qing1 Ming2 is always
on April 5th, Xia4 Zhi4 is always on June 22th.

--
From: yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: A hero or what ?  ( Re : The death of a monk .)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:13:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

The following was a talk with a friend of my father that I remembered.
He is a doctor and was sent to tibet in 50's. First of all,  I was told
that at that time, people are so honest that they will go to tibet when
asked by CCP with no questions asked.  They performs all duties, including
bring new born bady which is not his specilty.  They will drink sour
horse milk even he hate the taste because it is considered a honor to
do so.  They will eat 'rottened meat' (fu3 rou4) which is meat hanged under
the roof. After certain time, the meat will become bad (not fresh), and 
with 'que1'(?) on them. But it is custom for tibetian to eat that way. And
usually all the tibetian have a short knife on their waste, so it is 
handy to eat the meat. The place he went was bit backward from impression.
I knew that I was facinated by the costum then.  

I have never been in tibet, never met a tibetian. I can not confirm
the above. And I hardly join the discussion on tibet. I do 
wondering how many of the posters who really know.  I like to know
if there are any tibetian on the net.  Can anyone identify him/her self?
e-mails are welcome.

-- 
/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
/* open your window and get something fresh */
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 17:39:46 EDT
From: Robert Pan <IO11043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: SCC Unsolved Mystery.

Hi, Xiao Li,

I just say no matter who's Li Canhao or Zhanhao, don't pay
much time to this kind of things. Save computer resource
and our time. Even that guy you told us is/was son-in-law of
Li Peng, he has the right to say what he wants to say too.

Those things like personal disputes should be avoided to be
broadcasted here.

If you don't like what I said, just forget it. BTW, I have a friend who
was Li Peng's daughter's classmate at Tsinghua Univ., but I lost
conact with him when he went to Singapore. If I have any info,
I'll let you know in personly.
 _______________________________________
|  Robert Pan                           |
|_______________________________________|
|__Internet:__io11043@maine.maine.edu___|
|__Bitnet__:__io11043@maine.bitnet______|
From: yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4, green card, freedom, money, et al.
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:17:41 GMT
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.

In article <1992Apr12.074121.27117@cs.yale.edu>, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) wrote:

+In article <12154@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu) writes:
+<In article <1992Apr12.013054.22753@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
+[Shannon writes:]
+
+<So you think it is CCP's mistake to order 6/4
+<massacre?
+
+The CCP did *NOT* order any "massacre".  Period.  Don't bandy the word `CCP'
+about so freely.

	I don't know why those guys always like to put words into other 
	people's mouth...

+<You should think it a glorious, great, correct decision
+<made by the glorious, great, correct party and deserve a full page
+<ad. on NY Time.
+
+Oh, don't think I don't have my opinions of the incident.  I'm talking about
+the use of force, though.  And it got plenty of front-page "ads" in all
+sorts of papers.  This fact attests to the PRC government's mishandling of
+the incident.

	Next time, you (Scott) should setup some rules be4 you argue with them:
	"I Scott will not argue with those who do NOT stick with the topic".

+(And by the way, the correct phrasing is "great, glorious, correct".)
+
+<You should go to the 'study-class' for
+<3 month to accept re-education and write 100 self-critism report.

	As I always said, those Xu-Hao-like guys are worse than CCP.

+Oh, really, Mr "Expert"?  Seems you're too busy indulging in self-praise
+to bother with any self-criticism.
+
+					--Scott

shannon
-------
From: srzhang@mth.msu.edu (Shuren Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4, green card, freedom, money, et al.
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:42:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Michigan State University

In article <29E7598A.1802@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
>+
>+    At the time CCP still arrests people simply because they attend someone's
>+funeral, simply because they say something in public against CCP, simply
>+because they believe in God and prey in family gathering instead of in churches
>+controled by CCP, the fear of people is understandable.
>
>	2.  I myself had been excercising my freedom of speech in Beijing for
>	    years and they never "simply arrest" me.  But I want to tell you, 
>	    some FUCKED-UP professors at my university (in Beijing) tried to 
>	    screw me very hard.  	
>

I witnessed this!     


>+
>+    Most of chinese here do care about the political situation in China. 
>+Only those CCP apologists don't care chinese people, because they simply
>+support the CCP bloody regime.
>
>	To fix the Chinese problems, you need to go back to China; to
>	simply express your concerns on China, you don't have to go back.
>	But, don't use your "concerns" as an exchange for your green cards.
>
    If you really want to fix China's problems as you may often claim, 
you really need to go back.  If you actually want to stay in the U.S., 
that's very fine, but don't abuse 6.4 blood. 


>+
>+   A fundamental question: Who killed those demonstrated in TAM? Who?
>+Chinese students here? or CCP in Beijing? Is CCP ( by the way donkey
>+Scott always apologizes for ) order the killing of thousands in 1989?
>
>	You students caused the killing!! You did not give them any additional
>	choice!
>

      CCP is the killer!!! CCP gave students no other choices but eating
bullets. 


SRZ 
---
   
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yao5@quads.uchicago.edu (lian  yao)
Subject: Re: Status of Immigration Bill ???
Reply-To: yao5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
     Hey, Why do you always hope someone else taking care of your future?
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:19:19 GMT
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Train from Shanghai to Nanjing
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:52:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL

In article <1992Apr15.191751.12006@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> yzg9890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (just call me joe ) writes:
->jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu writes:
->
->>Hi,
->>This is a longshot, but does anyone have a train schedule for between 
->>Shanghai and Nanjing?  I plan to fly into China, and take the train from 
->>my landing point to Nanjing.  I have vowed never, ever, again to take a 
->>Chinese domestic air carrier. 
->
->     You are a smart guy!
->

It seems like domestic air carrier is notorious for some reason.  But I
took it once.  Sure the plane was small, airport was smaller than a bus
terminal in US, and the worse part is that service was bad.  However,
I don't expect service to be good at train stations either.  So can 
anyone tell me what's so bad about taking domestic air carrier as opposed
to taking trains?

--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:56:42 -0500

Disclaimer: I speak for myself from my own authorized account :-)

If it's a SCC joke, it must have gone too far :-)  Don't celebrate now :-)

>Many people have asked me the source of the news. It was
>published in World Journal on 4/4.

Well, I guess not many people carefully read the context of the WJ report
before they jumped up :-)  Would anyone translate its FULL TEXT into English
and post it to SCC?  I don't have time nor the energy/motivation :-)

And I don't have time to get into detail discussion, IMHO, it's not worth
in-depth discussion at all IN CURRENT STAGE.  Here is something brief:

If you compare it with last year's Morrison bill that was killed in
Senate Justice Committee, you'll know the only MAJOR difference between
this PROPOSED BILL and the Morrison bill is that the immigration quota
(1,000/year) for those CSS will come from other country's quota (700)
and China's quota (300).

Remember how the Morrison bill got killed?  It's because Senator Simpson
insisted on that the quota for CSS be deducted from China's quota only.

Now, 700 will be deducted from other countries' quota (in order to NOT
increase worldwide immigration quota specified by 1990 Immigration Act), all
other nations will go fighting/lobbying against Chinese in the Congress :-)

>One netter has verified this news from the senate. The bill
>has been passed and is now the Public Law #101-649.

This must be a joke :-)  According to April 4 World Journal, the proposed
bill was passed by Senate Immigration and Refuge Sub-committee with FULL
Yes Vote, but someone told me that the sub-committee comprises only three
Democrats, and Senator Simpson is not there any more, no wonder all three
voted yes :-)

Now the PROPOSED BILL goes to Senate Justice Committee (?) and it's
difficult to predict what will happen to the bill.  Remember last
year, some Senators requested to attach some items/articles to the
CSS protection bill, such as adding "protect Tibet refugees", "protect
those from China who were forced to abort" and "protect those escape
from XXX conutry" (now must be Haiti :-) ... ...

And, if it can pass Senate Justice Committee (with those possible
attachments :-)  It still needs to pass the Senate and the House and
finally will be sent to the president (hopefully not Bush :-)

So, keep your finger crossed or send letters to your Senator/Congressmen
as World Journal said that IFCSS president Zhao haiqing calls CSS in the
US to help in lobbying the bill, I wonder why IFCSS hasn't said anything
about the bill ... :-)   So, SCCers please keep an eye on next IFCSS News
Release(s) :-)

>Good luck.

Sleep well first ... :-)

This posting serves as the "brick that will drag/draw jade out" :-)
I won't have time to say anything on the subject in the near future.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bo Xiong in Chicago
From: jan@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Ji An)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: comrade Li P. and comrade Scott Horne
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:52:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Power Software

In May 89 when comrade Li Peng announced the "Martial Law" he was
questioned.
Q: Can the Premier issue a "Martial Law" without approval from the NPC?
Comrade Li: Is there such thing in the Constitution? (Turn to his fellow)
Go back to have a look!


When a handfull of Canadian delegates were expelled from China, our comrades
were celebrating in SCC.
Comrade Scott Horne: They are expelled because they have violated the Chinese
law...
Q: Which law?
Comrade S.H.: I'll go to the library to find it.
From: yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:04:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr15.053213.23760@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> kniaz@cat4.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz) writes:
>
>	I, for one, wouldn't mind being seen as a sex-object 
>	once in a while.  Ah well... *sigh*
>						;^> ;^> ;^>
>						 Joel Kniaz

'Once in a while' is not enough to qualify as 'so' ;-^.  Even so, my assertion
of 'most of men' still stand :-)

-- 
/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
/* open your window and get something fresh */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: one coner of my Beijing life (follow-up to "red card" discussion)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:40:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.015757.2879@rigel.econ.uga.edu> jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Jialin) writes:
>[Shannon Yeh's personal account deleted]
>
>Shannon, just one question, how can you legally have a name
>_Shannon Yeh_ ? 
>
>Thanks!

Jialin ,
  Just another question .
  Could you explain the meaning of the question clearly to us ? 

Thanks ...

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:12807 soc.culture.taiwan:7365 soc.culture.hongkong:5652
From: hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: When is Qing1 Ming2?
Keywords: calendar
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:09:09 GMT
Organization: Columbia University

yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>The 24 seasons seems to be related
>to sun more than moon. I got confused too ;-} But seasons like li4 chun1 is 
>always on Feb 2. Seasons can vary at most by one day according to yang2 li4.
>Also like chun1 fen1 is the day when day and night are equally long, clearly
>sun related.

	The "24 seasons" are purely solar, have nothing to do with the moon.
	They were abserved for agricultural purposes; luna is not important
	for agricultural "seasons".  All seasons, by definition, depend on 
	the location of sun.  Seasons are caused by the tilt of the earth's
	axis.  All of the 24 "seasons" (Jie2 Qi4) can fall on three possible 
	days on the Julian (Gregorian) Calendar (Yang2 Li4).  Li4 Chun1 can 
	fall on Feb 2, 3, or 4.  In fact, it is Feb. 4 in 1992, not Feb 2.
	Qing1 Ming2, as another example, can fall on April 4, 5, or 6.

 	As I explained before:

  Yin1 Li4 is the Chinese lunar calendar.  (Yin1 meaning dark as at night)
	Chinese lunar year is divided into 12 months of 30 or 29 days.
	No 31. Therefore, an extra months are added at regular intervals.
  Yang2 Li4 is the Julian (after Juleus Ceacer)(or Gregorian, after Pope
	Gregory XIII).  It's the solar calendar, official in West.  (Yang2
	means "sun")  It's perfection accredited to the Roman Catholic 
	Church (Gregory XIII).  The average year on this calendar is half
	a minute longer than the earth's orbital period.  But, it takes
	more than 3,000 years to build up to an extra day.  :)
  Seasons (Jie2 Qe4) are based on the sun's motion".  All seasons depend on 
	the location of sun; they are caused by the tilt of the earth's
	axis with respect to the sun.
  Chinese New Year (Jan 1 on lunar cal.) is always between mid Jan. and 
	mid Feb. because it's at the first new moon after the sun enters 
	Aquarius.


>How old Chinese people calculated the season from lunar calender?

	Beats me. 
	Hmm.... I think it was late Ming or early Ching dynesties
	(Mid 17th century) mainly by Western missionaries.  I just 
	remember seeing pictures of Westerners dressed like Early Ching
	officials playing with astronomical instruments.

====================================>.sig <====================================
  Harry Xu  (KB2LHA)	   Internet:  hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
 *Columbia University Amateur Radio Club (CUARC-<>-W2AEE)  *Founded, 1913*
 *The American Radio Relay League:  Amateur Radio >>---> A National Resource
 *New York Road Runners Club  -&-  Columbia University Road Runners Club 
  ::::::"Go run.  Nothing else can make you feel as good as making love."  --ME
====================================> end <====================================
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: ...
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:15:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr12.161525.7823
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <204778@unix.cis.pitt.edu> yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>In article <zzuo.703013882@pv7428.vincent.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>  What I hate most is cheating . Using politcs as an excuse to arrive personal
>>aims is not a honest behavior . To us chinese students , I think we understand
>>this point too well . ( " You Know , I Know , The Heaven Know .")
>
>You are no politician, if you don't cheat ;-)
>
>The next best is to stay away from it.
>
>-- 
>/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
>/* open your window and get something fresh */

Agree with no hesitation . That's why we study science other 
than politics .
From: echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:58:56 GMT
Reply-To: echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Organization: Ohio State University: Physics Department

In article <1992Apr10.011819.15939@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
>
>Even in the hey days of visa lobby in 1989/1990, there were NOT many F-1
>CSS on SCC who opposed CSS "protection bill", not to mention that none of
>those nowadays' CCP ass-kissers opposed :-)  I can only remember one CSS
>(F-1 guy :-) who posted a lot to oppose the bill, his then e-mail id was
>I24@PSUVM.PSU.EDU  or I24@PSUVM.BITNET    But he has been quiet on this
>issue lately on SCC :-)


	You certainly don't have to make noise when there is no noise from
the other side.  :-)  Expect some noise from me if the "hey days" return,
though.  :-)

	I have no objection to whatever those Senators/Congressmen do on
this issue.  The only thing I do not like, as I did to the "protection
bill" (notice the rightful quotation mark), is not the bill itself, but
what happened during the lobby process.  I don't think I need to repeat
all those lies being sent over the capital hill in the name of Chinese
students.

	So, as usual, I really do not follow on what bill/law do, but what
our fellows are going to say.


    Eddie
    Former I24@psuvm
From: xiao-lin li <xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: SCC Unsolved Mystery.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:22:33 -0500

In article <1992Apr10.231353.8577@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>
>Oh, really?  Presumably someone broke into your account and posted it to SCC?

That specific rumore (I mean Li Peng as Jiang Qing's son) was not initiated
by me. 

>In the old days, you served (probably unwittingly) as the mouthpiece of
>rumour-mongerers everywhere.  Why stop now?  Don't tell me the well has run
>dry.
>
In the old days, I tried to tell whatever I knew to the SCC.
Many stories were true. Some were copied from World Journal.
Even World Journal had many false information at that time.
One can only guess and probe to a tightly closed country.


>					--Scott

Li Canhao is your friend. I remember you also grumbled
Li Peng to some extent. Was that because your friend
divorced with Li Peng's daughter?