HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kevind@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Draz)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ed Nilges and Snuff Films?
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:27:28 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Jul23.193705.14465@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
>Does anyone know why the Nazis filmed so many of their war
>crimes?  I presume the thought of the film being used as evidence
>never crossed their minds in the early years because they thought
>they would win.  Was it so Adolf and his cronies could see that
>their orders were being carried out? 

According to William L. Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", a
non-fiction history of the Nazi era, the executions were filmed for

(1) Hitler's personal gratification regarding the 1944 (failed) coup
attempt.  Some of the plotters were high members of the army, personally
known to Hitler.

(2) As a deterrent to any other coup attempts from the Army.  The movie was
show to inductees and other members of the military, along with footage of
the trials before the Volksgericht, or "People's Court".

I've listed these in reverse order of importance, I believe.  Shirer
explains that Nazi leaders were quite nervous of the possibility of a
successful coup d'etat, as had happened to Mussolini by that time.

The book goes on to report that in many instances, the army inductees walked
out of the viewing room in disgust and protest at the films.

The films of these executions were well known, but, in order to destroy
potential war-crime evidence, may have been destroyed in the last days of
the war. (Of course, some allied government may have captured the film, too,
and does not admit it.) No one really knows for sure what happened to them,
but many, many people admitted their existence at Nuremburg.

Footage of the drumhead trials has survived.

-- 
----
kevind@pogo.wv.tek.com  | For most software publishers, quality is job 1.01.
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Right-Left
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:22:40 GMT
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

>And everyone gets really pissed if you turn the felt
>things on the curb the other way around.

Those are called "pedestrians."  They just FEEL like you've run into
a thick pile of felt.  

As some standup copic once said of Boston driving, "Crossing the street 
is dangerous.  If a pedestrian steps off the curb, it's your job to 
chase him back up there where he'll be safe."

Seriously, I think left-on-red is legal hereabouts, too.  But only 
when you're turning from a one-way street into another (both in the
appropriate direction, hopefully, though you certainly can't rely
on that in San Francisco).

Joe "And where did that dent in my trunk lid come from?" Chew
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Subject: Re: UL Sighted
From: frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz (Bruce Clement)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 04:48:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Private System

csuah@warwick.ac.uk writes in article <967mb12l@csv.warwick.ac.uk>:

> Yeah, this was in the paper in UK today, as well. The Sultanate of Brunei,
> a devout moslem country, apparently, destroyed loads of Mitsubishi tyres (I
> thought they made Zeros...) on the grounds that the tread pattern was the same
> as a verse of the Koran written in the local language.

I once read that the Europeans got the idea for milling the edges of coins
from the arabs during the crusades. The story goes on that the first attempts
copied the milling on the Arab coins exactly. Unfortunately (for them) it turned
out that that pretty pattern was actually an Arabic phrase: "There is no god
but God and Mahomet is his prophet"

--
Bruce Clement    (frey@alfheim.welly.gen.nz   Waffle 1.64, 
                  frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz  SNEWS/2,  UUPC 1.11q)
From: jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Jul22.215313.5995@dscomsf.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>
>How about `low tar cigarettes', ie they are going to mess your
>cardiovascular system up precisely as much (same CO production) but
>possibly have a lower chance of making you die horribly from Cancer?
>
>Phill Hallam-Baker

Well, you would still get cancer.  Tobacco is one of the plants that has a
very high affinity for Polonium-210 that occurs naturally in soil.  This
Po-210 is, like radon-226, an alpha-emmitter.  But, unlike radon, it is
solid at room temperature.  So smokers inhale the Po-210 with the tobacco
smoke, the radioactive particles get deposited in the mucus in the lungs,
stay there and give a large dose to the idiot who smokes.  Smoke-filled
rooms have such a high level of radioactive particles that, according
to DOE rules a person would have to wear a gas-mask to enter.  Unfortunately,
tobacco products are exempt from all EPA and DOE regulations.

If any of you doubt these claims, check with the nuclear engineering depts
at your local universities.
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From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Subject: Re: ME-163 Komet
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 05:33:45 GMT

csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:

>In article <1992Jul28.211829.3947@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rcnixon@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (russell.nixon) writes:
>>Well, after lurking for over two years, I'm finally posting a message.
>>The ME-163 Komet was a rocket propelled tailless delta.  The motor was a
>>Walther bi-propellent rocket engine.  

Don't have any literature at hand, but such a thing existed and was used
as a fighter. Don't know about the name. This is the first time I hear
one of these planes assigned a name like "Komet". I always only heard
the numbers. And "ME" definitely stands for "Messerschmitt", whereas
"HE" stands for "Heinkel". And I also can't swear that the 163 fits to
that description, but I *think* it's correct.

>All fine, except for the designation. All the history programmes I saw, and
>books I read said that the Komet was a Heinkel, not a Messerschmidt(sp?),
>so it was He 163. 

Can't decide that, but Heinkel and Messerschmitt were concurrents and on
a very comparable level. *Both* built twin-engine jets, but only the
ME one was accepted by the air force. And also that delta fighter was
definitely a ME. On the other side, that Volks-jetfighter was a HE.
And Heinkel had built the *first* working jet of the world.

-- 
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Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
                                   or  peterk@public.sub.org
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Anastasia Romanov - Not Found!
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:09:33 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <6477236@harvee.billerica.ma.us> scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator) writes:
>so does this mean they have to rewrite the lyrics to "sympathy for the devil?"

Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name.  But what's confusing you is
what's the nature of my game (whoo! whoo!).

Why would someone holding a general's rank drive a tank?  Also, doesn't he
answer Oliver Stone's JFK conspiracy theory ("when after all it was you and 
me").

cj "every net.cop is a net.criminal and all the net.sinners are net.saints" l
From: chenowet@rd1632.Dayton.NCR.COM (Steve Chenoweth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: College Pranks (Was Re: Vacation Time!)
Keywords: Ditch Day, vanishing room
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:34:49 GMT
Reply-To: chenowet@rd1632.Dayton.NCR.com (Steve Chenoweth)
Organization: NCR Technology & Development, Dayton, Ohio

As long as this thread is becoming general, I had a real college prank
experience which I wondered later might develop into an UL.  Or, might
have been thought up based on one.

One of my students who was generally disliked arrived an hour late for
a final exam.  He didn't know he was late until he got to school, because
his clocks and watch had all been set back an hour by his dorm roommates.
Not suspecting this, the student initially claimed that he "must have
gone through the Twilight Zone or something" on the way to school, losing
an hour along the way.

While this sort of thing probably is fairly common in "higher education,"
it sounds as though it might have some UL capability, too.

Any opinions?



-- 
Steve.Chenoweth@Dayton.NCR.com
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From: lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund)
Subject: Re: Organ muggers
Summary: Don't call them organ muggers,  call them organleggers 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:10:05 GMT

(stolen kidney discussion deleted)

	Now let's give credit where credit is due.  They shouldn't be
called organ muggers but organLEGGER's (variant of bootlegger's). Why you
ask?  Therein lies a tale.
	Beginning in the early 1970's science fiction writer Larry Niven
published a series of stories examining the implications of really 
successful tranplant technology.  First to develope was the practice of
"breaking up" convicted criminals for parts.  But when the demand for
parts exceeded the supply a criminal class developed which kidnapped
people and broke them up for resale.  The were called organ leggers.
	I think we should rename this UL in Larry Niven's honor.

-- 
Larry Headlund  lmh@world.std.com    Eikonal Systems (617) 482-3345
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: catching bullets with the teeth
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:54:14 MDT
Organization: United Order of Non-joiners

salantel@dssv01.crd.ge.com (E. L. Salant) writes:
> I heard from coworkers, that on tv they showed a man who could 
> catch a bullet fired from a gun with his teeth.  Supposedly the
> gun was statically mounted and carefully aimed, and the bullet 
> would pass through things like a piece of paper or a glass pane
> to prove it was no sleight of hand.
> 
> While I believe that these people saw this on tv, I can't believe 
> that someone can really catch bullets with his teeth.  Anyone
> got the scoop on this?
> 
     Not his teeth exactly.  He held a small metal cup with his teeth,
and the bullet was trapped by the cup.  I imagine it was still
painful, as taking a bullet in the mouth ought to be, but it was not
fatal.  Or is my mind playing tricks when I recall that within the
last year someone tried this trick and failed?

Patrick "if only I had the name of the case" Clark
-- 
Patrick S. Clark | Just crank that volume to the point of pain.
Email is life!   | Why waste good music on a brain?
Usual Disclaimer | --Spinal Tap, "Heavy Duty"
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From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:50:59 GMT

Let me repeat: I am an agnostic. I am also a practicing Jew. while I admitt
that I am an exception, not all agnostics are "agnostic athiests"
(ie practicing athiesm) 
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Cat colouration (was Re: Egg Creams)
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:28:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.162158.9044@zooid.guild.org> Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>Correct, however male calico cats are very very rare, and are always 
>sterile. I haven't seen one yet, and I work in the veterinary field. 
>Also, about 95% of orange cats are male, I've only seen 1 female 
>orange cat.  

I knew someone with a large male orange striped cat.  IT was rather fat!
It's mate was back and white.  The offspring was a female that was the same
markings as the father.  While quite fat, it never got to the sheer bulk of
its father.  Its offspring were all black and white (the father was never
identified in that generation).

cjl

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From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Abraham Lincoln!
Summary: Was Mr. Lincoln of "mixed" racial heritage?
Keywords: Abe Lincoln nanny
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:55:46 GMT


An associate has been doing research for a report on Abraham Lincoln for his 
African American Studies class.  He mentioned over lunch yesterday that he 
had heard a story that, as a child, Abe had an African woman as a nanny who 
raised him.  And that this woman was _really_ his natural mother!

I grew up in Illinois and my first reaction was one of ethnocentric 
disbelief:  Gee wiz, I didn't think they had room for a nanny in a one room 
log cabin!

But then I thought I'd ask the net:
Have you ever heard this?  Is it true?  Was Mr. Lincoln of "mixed" racial 
heritage?

My thanks to all,
Jim
Smith1@panther.adelphi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doc)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:07:14 GMT

jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth) writes:

>>>Speed of light is 3E10, 10 MHz is 1E7 So in each clock period light goes 
>>>3E3 m

>>BZZZZZT! Wrong!  c=3E8 m/s, not 3E10.  Therefore the result is 30m, not 3E3!

>BZZZZZT!  Not quite right.  The original poster was using CGS unit system
>(you know, cm, g, and s).  So c=3E+10 cm/s.  This is consistant with 3E+08
>m/s.  CGS (and English Engineering system) is still used for certain cases.
>Plasma theory still has a bunch of papers that haven't been converted to
>SI from CGS.  Many Thermodynamic and many thermal-hydraulic texts and papers
>are still in EES.

That would be fine, except that he did the math and posted the answer in m/s
(see above).  If he had given the answer as 3E3 cm, he would have been
perfectly correct.
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:19811 sci.med:14481 misc.consumers:14477 misc.legal:14848
From: mrosa@spectrx.saigon.com (Marie Rosa)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.med,misc.consumers,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Generic Drugs Cure Generic Disease (was: H2O2 cures cancer
Keywords: FILLERS IN GENERICS
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:55:04 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

> >Chalk one up to the Reagan version of the FDA ... generics only have to
> >show that they have the same amount of active ingredients as the
> >name-brand; they don't actually go through clinical trials.  There have
> >been some cases where the "inert" differences have caused some trouble,
> >but it happens much less than you'd think.  Usually it's an alergic
> >reaction to what has been used as "filler" ...

One other problem that I am aware of is that different fillers will affect the 
rapidity of absorption into the human body.  For someone who needs to maintain 
a certain blood level of medication this can be important.

--
mrosa@spectrx.saigon.com (Marie Rosa)
SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005  Silicon Valley, Ca
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From:  (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Subject: Re: Mandatory negatives (was Re: Agnostics and Athiests)
Organization: haphazard, at best
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:00:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.042232.21973@clarinet.com>, brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
> 
> I'm simply describing the facts.  The people who call themselves
> agnostics do not believe in god.  They make the very fine point that
> this is different from the atheist's viewpoint "I believe there is no
> god."   I understand this difference just fine, thanks.  No need
> to get insulting.  I just argue that it is not very meaningful.
> 
> The agnostic when asked, "is there a god?"  might say "I don't know,"
> rather than "I think not."   SO WHAT?   
> 
> She is 99% the same as the athiest when it comes to everything but how
> a few questions and answered and how a few points are argued.  Big deal.
> I was just in opposition to the statement that the agnostic is halfway
> between the theist and atheist.   When it comes to examining your life, your
> morals, almost everything that matters, the agnostic is the same as the
> atheist.   Not halfway at all.
> -- 
> Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366


Thank you, Mr. Templeton, for telling me what I believe.  There is a large
difference between agnostics and believers, just as there is a large difference 
between athiests and agnostics.  Both sides tend to push the agnostics towards
the other, pointing to the irreconcilable differences between their own positions, 
and that of an agnostic.  For an agnostic (or freethinker, really) to say I don't know,
is a valid statement.  It denies the faith which ties some to a given faith,
without denying the validity of that faith.  Jesus may have come back, Archangels
may have spoken to Mohammed, there is no current, physical evidence which
I can firmly believe in,  I can not state that these things did or did not happen.

When it comes to my moral (and everyhing else that matters) structure,
you are right, I do not conform to a rigid dogmatic code.  That does not mean that
I am not a nice person, that I do not believe in helping others, that I 'sin'
more than others.  I have selected a belief system which suits me and the
society around me pretty well.  Copies available upon request.


Jon Hodapp       jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
======================================
"You think God loves you?  Forty days and nights of rain wasn't to solve an
AGRICULTURAL problem!"  - Satan, from Satan:His Psychotherapy and Cure


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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: numbers in commercials
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:06:20 GMT

In article <Bs7FLI.F5M@news.udel.edu> derf@ravel.udel.edu (the Greatful Fred) writes:
>	How many people took paricular notice of the car commercials
>	all deciding to change the commercials?  Starting a little over a 
>	year ago,the no longer tell you how many cylinders a car has, but rather
>	the number of valves.  Since there are two valves per cylinder, this 
>	gives you no new information, but it is a larger number, so sounds
>	better.
>
Wrong, some have 4 valves/cylinder so they have as much as 24 valves, but
aren't 12 cylinder engines.  Yes, you are correct that all numbers are
inflated, but sometimes there is some information there.  I think some 
designs have 3 valves/cylinder also.

cjl
From: mayers@cemmva.cem.msu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CD Storage Density (was: Re: NetNews/CD - USENET News Available)
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:58:36 GMT
Reply-To: mayers@cemmva.cem.msu.edu
Organization: MSU_Chemistry

Of course CD's are etched. It would take a million-dollar CD player to read a
CD that had been etched concentrically.  Also, if it were concentric, the term
TRACKING would not be used, since the CD player would jump tracks about 10x a
second.
-Anson "Besides, since each track is a little longer than the last one, how  
would your CD player know when to skip to the next track?" Mayers
--
Craig Shergold is actually the bastard son of Moon Unit Zappa.
The father is rumored to be L. Ron Hubbard.

Sure explains a h*ll of a lot.
From: archer@utkux1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: College Pranks (Was Re: Vacation Time!)
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:07:17 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education

In article <1992Jul26.095609.18349@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>There are a couple of big flaws with this story. First of all, the outside
>doors cannot open inward - such doors are illegal in public buildings. It
>is against fire codes in all 50 states.

Depends how old the buildings are, how honest the owner is, and how diligent 
the fire chief and his staff are.

-=-=-
T. Archer  PA142548@utkvm1.utk.edu
University of Tennessee
"Vote Dempublican, it's easier than thinking." -- Unknown
-=-=-
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From: jerryg@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Subject: Re: that'd be in the butt, bob
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:45:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.212142.29839@pony.Ingres.COM> rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.165037.19266@PA.dec.com> mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>>
>>In article <03cm6=b.anson@netcom.com>, 
>>  anson@netcom.com (Anson Kennedy) writes...
>>
>>>Has anyone contacted the producers of the show to settle this one way or
>>>the other
>>
>> Yes.  Try reading some of the standard AFU reference books (Adams, Brunvand,
>
>That someone has written in a book that it didn't happen is fine for you,
>but not first hand accounts written in a news group?  Did Brunvand reduce
>it to symbols and rigorously prove that it didn't exist?  No, I have read
>portions of some of these 'books', and wasn't particularly impressed with
>his scientific method.

Well snopes, you've done it again.  First it was the Limey and snuff
films and now this. You can't take some people anywhere.

-- 
Jerry Gaiser
          Usnet: jerryg@ssd.intel.com
        Fidonet: 1:105/380
           PBBS: n7pwf@n7pwf.or.usa.na
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From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: A non-UL, but stupid, question
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:34:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.000427.14879@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Robyn.C.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Robyn C. Reed) writes:
>How long do posters stay posted in this newsgroup?  In other words, how
>long can I not read a.f.u before I miss a thread, or significant
>portion thereof, entirely?

I guess you missed it when we discussed this recently ;-) PAY ATTENTION!
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:06:44 -0400 
From: Mary Rose Campbell <mc3d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Kilroy
	<mcirvin.711389416@husc10>

ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Speed Freak) writes:

>Does anybody know where the phrase 'Kilroy was here' originated ?  I have
>been told that Kilroy was a dock worker who inspected crates at night at
>some port in America.  He wrote KWH on them and because they then got shipped
>all over the world he became a superstar!  Is this correct ?


Actually, the phrase originated in 1983 when Styx released the album
"Kilroy was Here."  

mrc
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Jimmy the Greek
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 29 Jul 1992 19:30:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Jul29.013426.25975@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

>There was a local weatherman who was a quick-drawing artist called Tex
>Antoine for many years.  He is alleged to have said something like "if
>rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it" as some parable relating to some
>impending bad weather. 

Sometime during the last several months, I read about a politician who
commented on a local rape by saying something like, "Well, if the
rapist was a Democrat, he was probably the best she ever had!"  Don't
know the details, though.



Geoff


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