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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Sixth Season
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:06:28 GMT

chittend@ecst.csuchico.edu (Robert R. Chittenden) writes:


>    Of the first three episodes of this new season, I've been reading
>alot of negative comments.  Perhaps the talky episodes of the fifth
>season were disappointment, but this season episode has been quite
>different.  "Time's Arrow, part II" and "Realm of Fear" have two of 
>the most original shows in the series and I thought that they were 
>very well done.  If the first two episodes are any indication of the
>season to come, it appears TNG is moving away from talky episodes into
>doing more science fiction based episodes which was missed from last
>season.  
>    I've already seen negative comments about the upcoming episode 
>"Relics" feauturing James Doohan.  The old saying "don't judge a 
>book by its cover" applies here.

>    For all those people who think TNG is going downhill, I leave 
>you with this thought...They must be doing something right or you
>would not keep watching.

	I agree with this person...the show is doing very well.  I don't
see what is wrong with the show's so far this season.  The two episodes
I have seen so far are pretty good...and I've heard some bad thoughts from
the next episode "Man of the People".  Before I saw the episode "Realm of
Fear" there was some talk of the show being too technical...I followed it
very well.  I know people have their own opinion, and I respect that.
All I am doing now is skipping over the ones marked *spoilers* and go on
to the ones about books, old shows, etc.  Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.


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From: irbrodie@acs.ucalgary.ca (Ian R. Brodie)
Subject: Re: Ross Perot
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:02:14 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct12.093448.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.131433.1@cstp.umkc.edu>, rdale@cstp.umkc.edu writes:
>>> Has anybody noted the facial similarities between Ross
>>> Perot and a Ferengui?
>> 
>> 
>> 	Although I keep meaning to mention this, unlike many previous
>> space aliens, TNG keeps some basis in fact for their names.  I can't
>> recall the specifics, but "ferhengi" (sp)?) is/was a group of
>> Earth-type folks.  Dang, my mind has gone blank on this one. . .
>
>I believe ferenghi means "foreigner" in one of the slavic languages.
>I don't remember which one, but I don't think it's Russian.  I don't
>think it has ever been used as the name of a people, however.
>
>Kellie M-S
>internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
>
My Ethiopian colleague here tells me that "ferengi" is used to
refer
to white people in his homeland.


Ian Brodie
Univ of Calgary
irbrodie@acs.ucalgary.ca
From: bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras)
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Subject: Re: *Spoiler* Comments on "Man of the People"
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:21:29 GMT
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David Ratner (ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
: *Spoilers*               
: 
: A Few Random Comments:
: 
: Another problem - 
: 	What about Aklar calling the first ``receptacle'' mother.  Why didn't
: the girl complain about it, insist that she wasn't his mother?  Unknown.
: And why didn't Troi use her magic powers and sense something wrong
: with her?  Her neurotransmitters are 400% above normal, she exhibits ALL
: the strange emotions coming from Aklar, but Troi doesn't notice a thing?

1) If you noticed when Troi became the receptacle, she only cared about
being with Alkar.  She wasn't concerned about herself or her aging.  I
don't think she would've minded if Alkar even called her "Mother".  The
receptacle lost themselves.  I think this psychic link affected the
receptacle's judgement drastically.  I found this completely reasonable.

2) Deanna did sense something wrong with Alkar's "mother".  She sensed
a great amount of evil.  Her emotional overload was difficult to
read.Riker convinced her that the "mother" was old, ill and senile, and
she was nothing to worry about.  Deanna's an empath, not a telepath.

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From: bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras)
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Subject: Re: Data as 2nd
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:05:03 GMT
Reply-To: bill@msi.com
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ech002@acad.drake.edu wrote:
: > 	In the war games epidode, Riker chose Worf over LaForge not Data.  Worf
: had asked to serve with Riker earlier in the episode as did LaForge.  Since
: LaForge was needed in engineering, both Riker and LaForge agreed that Worf
: should be second officer.  Riker even joked about needing some of that "Klingon
: guile."  Data remained on the Enterprise simply because he was the third
: officer and was needed to fill Riker's post.
: 	In the future, please either fully watch the episodes that you comment
: on or ask someone that has.

Remember the episode when Riker's father came on board to say good-bye
to Will upon his promotion to Captain of a deep space mission?  Worf
volunteered to go with Riker.  Probably because Riker is the only one
Worf thinks truly understands him, and has been the only one to witness
Worf's "workout". I think this close sense of "brotherhood" had something
to do about it.

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: --<man of the people>
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:52:49 EST

>        For another thing, Troi fell pretty quickly for this "death ritual."
>One would figure she would have noticed that he wasn't honest with his angst
>over his "mother's" death.

I believe you missed a SERIOUS element of this episode.  That woman was
NOT her mother!  Bev confirmed this when she performed the autopsy and
said that their DNA's definately did not match.  The mother term was a
cover-up, and basically that woman would not mind being called that
because she was so caught up with the negative emotions and so WANTED to
stay with the Ambassador, as Troi did.

Anybody thinking about Ghostbusters II right about now???  :-)


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Subject: Re: What does it mean when...
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 12:42:10 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:

> Spoilers for "Realm of Fear"

> 
> So what does it mean when Geordi mentions that "You look a little pale."?
> 
> Considering his visor, I think I'd be a bit worried if my infrared
> signature had dropped significantly enough for Geordi to mention...  :-)
> 
> 
> Mark Runyan

He doesn't see just infrared.  He sees  more of the spectrum then we do,
including visible light.  He can tell what Barkley's color is normal to him,
by having seen him often.  When Barkley looks pale, Geordie can tell that his
color is different.  He does see what we see, and more.


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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: **MILD SPOILER*** Dread of Scotty Episode
Summary: Happy, anticipatory spoiler
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:57:40 GMT

YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>   I have just finished reading the novelization of "Relics" the Scotty
>episode.  I am NOT going to describe the plot (though any good Trekkie
>can probably guess.), but I am going to make some comments.
>   Of course, novelization is not the same thing as the show itself,
>and you will have to wait for the satellite people for the full reviews.
>   Possible spoiler for Relics.  Since I intend to reply somewhat to the
>following article, I'll use that for spoiler protection.
> 
>>article <Bvu541.Gsw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> by hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) 

[excluded to save net resources]
>There was a wonderful scene in the book where
>Scotty relives an anniversary party on the original TV bridge of the
>Enterprise.  I hope they keep it, but they probably never even filmed it,
>since it requires Shatner, Nimoy, etc.

Oh! But they did!! In the pseudo-spoiler on Entertainment Tonight,
the director could be overheard saying "It's that orange color
that's so memorable."

He was referring to the orange border/facia boards on the
front of the bridge computer consoles. I agree, they did
immediately evoke memories of TOS.

So, for die-hard TOS fans, this should be a neat episode,
minus ALL TOS cast members, save Scotty.

>   Brush up on your Dyson Spheres.

Personally, I prefer conical sections.

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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
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Subject: "Conversational Klingon" audio tape
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 02:29:25 EDT
Reply-To: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project


Klingon Language fans rejoice! Simon & Schuster Audioworks has just 
released the tape "Conversational Klingon". I haven't been able to listen 
to it yet, but here is some of the box copy:
 
STAR TREK Conversational Klingon
Presented by Michael Dorn
Featuring the Author, Mark Okrand
Learn the universe's fastest growing language
 
Speak the language of the future!
Finally, from the creator of "The Klingon Dictionary", comes an audio 
program that can teach anyone to have a real Klingon conversation. You 
will learn the words, pronunciations, phrases and customs for any 
situation. "Conversational Klingon" covers all the basics of this new and 
exciting language, including:
 
* Proper voice inflection
* Sentence structure and grammar
* Key Klingon words for emergencies
* Sample conversations between Klingons
 
A comprehensive, easy-to-understand guide to the fastest growing language 
in the universe, "Conversational Klingon" featuring ST:TNG star Michael 
Dorn will be a collector's item for every ST fan.
 
Running Time: 60 minutes (1 tape)
An audio adaptation of "Star Trek: The Klingon Dictionary"
Adapted for audio by Mark Okrand
 
$11.00 / USA  79739-5
$13.00 Canada
 
ISBN 0-671-79739-5

..........
Robert Oliver, tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
..........
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Dread of Scotty Episode -- NOT; (Not Yet anyway.)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 02:09:19 EDT

   My favorite characters of TOS were Scotty and Checov, actually, so I
am happy to see Scotty back.  (My favorite scene in Trek VI was near the
beginning when they start the warp engines on NCC-1701A, and we see
Scotty smiling a wide grin.)  I never liked       Spock all that much
until the movies.   I do acknowledge a need for an outsider in Star Trek
like Spock, Data or Worf, but I could never *emphasize* with the characters.
Kirk was much too much of a stereotypical hero to be interesting, at least
for me.  Again, I can see the need for the character, but that does not
make the character interesting.
   As for Checov and Walter Koenig, I've read interviews where he is
unhappy with the small parts he's been getting in the last few films.
He said he'd be happy if Checov was busted down to an ensign lower grade
and put in the brig, as long as they allowed him a five minute solo
scene.  One of the reasons he did Trek VI, he says (other than money, of
course) was that he was happy to see Sulu get such an important role;
Koenig felt that Takei got shortchanged more than anybody in the cast
(which I agree with), and it made Checov's role being so underwritten
somewhat acceptable.
  (By the way, did anyone know that the "Jeffty" of "Jeffty is Five,"
the Harlan Ellison short story, is partially based on Walter Koenig's
son Josh?  In fact, the story's genesis took place in a party given
by the Koenigs.)
                        Junsok Yang (YANJUNA @YALEVM)
From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:10:07 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:

>In article <1992Oct14.191208.29970@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>[45 lines of Atsushi-bashing deleted...]
>>Opinion wholeheartedly seconded!!
>>Anyonce care to third it

>	My opinion is that brainless fools who quote entire articles only
>to follow up with a single comment of agreement and a request for others to
>do the same should be fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal...
>Anyone care to second this opinion? ;-) 
I agree.							8^)
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From: william@cs.arizona.edu (William (Dragon) Hertling)
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Subject: Re: Paramount Press Release - #233: Rascals
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:40:40 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <mFwosB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> jamaass@bluemoon.rn.com (Jeffrey A. Maass) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Yeah, but does this mean that Barclay will be seen chewing out 
>O'Brien for lying to him? Safe mode of transport, indeed!
>
>There do seem to be a large number of "transporter malfunctions"
>and "transporter mishaps" driving the plots.

Well, if O'Brien just isn't doing his job right, and allowing all of these
transporter problems and mishaps to occur, I suggest that he be removed of
duty from the Enterprise and transferred to maintenence duty on some 
remote space station.

william@cs.arizona.edu

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: deep space 9 - buffalo
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:19:22 EST

TO: v116r8ac@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu

 -=> On 10-14-92  22:32, Chris Nasipak babbled to All saying: <=-

 CN> Anyone who knows when the Buffalo FOX station (ch. 29?) is to start
 CN> showing DS9, could you please e-mail me?  Thanks.

WUTV Fox 29 has already picked up Deep Space Nine, and this info was
posted by Vidiot a while back.  DSN premiers in January, so you're
assured that Fox 29 will show it then.  In case you're wondering, I'm
from Toronto and lucky enough to get Fox 29.


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From: jes44606@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Eric Small)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics, Spoilers HO!
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:46:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw2pGq.58v
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rjking@acsu.buffalo.edu (Randall J. King) writes:

>4) this dome thingy.  By the size of it, the gravity distortions from it, etc. 
>	I would think that Starfleet would have found it by now.  Come on.  
>	How would something like that have been built?  It was just waaaaay too
>	out there.

I was sort of hoping this would turn into a big surprise episode and the 
sphere would turn out to be the work of the Borg...maybe even the Borg's
original home world.  Just a fun thought.
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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: Beta-Zoid Plexing
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:43:15 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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Julie Bixby (markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu) wrote:
>> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>>> ac1@cec2.wustl.edu (Anuj Chandra) writes:
>>>Plexing is one of weirdest pseduo science ever on ST:NG. ...
>>Looks like she fooled you too. It was a placebo.  It didn't have any 
>>real effect at all, except to convince him it was working.  Notice
>>how fast he felt confident after he started going it?  
>Actually, looks like Barkley fooled *you*. Obviously he was rushing to say
>it worked just so he could leave Troi's office ASAP.

Which explains why he used it later on the transporter pad?  He was
still trying to fool us? :-)
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From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
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Subject: Re: Stupid question about Peter David
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:31:22 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <9OCT92.06354806@umbc2.umbc.edu> noel@umbc2.umbc.edu writes:
>
>	Somone actually *did* make X-rated movies called "Sex Trek" and "Sex 
>Trek:  The Next Penetration".  I recall reading a review for the latter rather 
>recently (around 1990).  Sorry, both of them use parodies of the TOS cast.
>	[My question is, if somone sends a copy to Tim Lynch, will he give a 
>spolier review?]
>	Oh, I saw something along the lines of a TNG parody on alt.sex.stories 
>a month ago, repost requests have been posted.


I do own a copy of Sex Trek: The Next Penetration.  It is a parody of TOS
crew and missions.  There is (to my limited knowledge) no movie called
Sex Trek (though there is SEX WARS which is a completely different story).
There is a recent (like less than six months old) sequel to Sex Trek :TNP
but I can't remember the name.

-dug
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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Realm of Fear: space worms ???
Date: 07 Oct 92 04:11:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <70151@hydra.gatech.EDU> cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
>... who was operating the transporter when the 4 Yosemite crew
>members beamed out?

Better question: Where were they going? I missed the lead-in before the
opening credits...

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Elementary, Dear Data Question.
Keywords: How
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:09:44 GMT

tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning) writes:


>I just saw a re-run of "Elementary, Dear Data" last night and I have a stupid
>question.  Isn't there some way they could use a plot complication like
>downloading Proffessor Morriarity's holodeck program into a android body
>built to his own likeness?  Data could build the body and then just download
>Morriarity into his new form.  Anyone have a justifiable answer why it can't
>be done?

>Just curious.

>Jeff "Tilden" Bohning

This is feasable, but the problem of Moriarty keeping his feelings would
be a problem.  His consciousness would be there, but he would not have
any true feelings.  He was alive, so going to an android body would not
resolve his situation.  It was better to keep his image saved on the computer
for use at a later date.




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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics (no spoilers)
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:30:15 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Oct12.074026.9746@wam.umd.edu> mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy) writes:
<Satellite..???  How in the hell are you seeing a newepisode almost
<a week before anyone else??  I want it!!

Because s/he watched the satellite feed on Saturday.
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