From: hyper@ecf.toronto.edu (Hypersonic CFD Combust Diag)
Subject: Re: Elections end with sweeping victory for pro-Syrian candidates
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:29:20 GMT


In article <1992Sep13.181255.18192@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
>In article <BuIto7.L0u@ecf.toronto.edu> hyper@ecf.toronto.edu (Hypersonic CFD Combust Diag) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep13.104137.12638@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
>>>In article <BuHKMI.CrI@ecf.toronto.edu> hyper@ecf.toronto.edu (Hypersonic CFD Combust Diag) writes:
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>>Samir.
>> 
>You had certainly explained something that I had a vague idea about,Thanks.
>However, what you did not explain or mention is the matter of TACTICAL voting.
>Does the current system allow or not I am not totally sure but I think you can
>still vote in this fashion.
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>I think you still can vote in this manner unless our system does not allow you
>to drop some names from the list you're voting for?
>
>If this is possible, Ms Hariri would still be elected without the help of Mr
>Berri because the electors would still be able to chose the best candidate
>(even in indirect way).
>
>Here, is it wise for Mr Berri & Ms Harri not to be in the same list?
>I think not. It would imply that they oppose each other and I don't think they
>both wanted to give to the electors that impression.
>
>At the end, it was good for both and not a favour from one to another.
>
>Please correct me if I'm wrong in my assumption because I'd like to know.
>
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>Ibrahim.

Actually, the system does allow for crossing names off a certain list and 
the addition of new names to your own ballot, who may not even belong
to that same group at all (some restrictions apply).  As a matter of fact
that was a concern to some people on Berri's list, especially Hizbollah
and Amal. There was fear that if the crossing of names of the opposite party
happens this could give an advantage to Asaad's list ( looking at the
results of the elections, this would have made little difference) .

yes, there could have been a real chance of her winning without Berri's
support, assuming that she did not run against people on his list
for the same seats.  As I mentioned earlier, Berri had a big influence
on the shiit votes in the south. And politics is dirty that way,
they can make anybody look bad if they see fit.

As i mentioned in my last article, Berri did what was in his best interest..
..choosing another running mate from Saida against Ms Hariri would have offendedthe people of Saida and a good number of people in the south.
(Mind you that Mr Berri and Mr Hariri were not at best of terms at many 
occasions in the past).

And Ibrahim, I was merely analyzing how she made a good political decision
and it was your wish that she makes as good a politician as she is an
active person in the community...No favors by anybody were implied.  In
politics there is no such things as favors....sometimes you drop old
allies and make new ones with old enemies because times do change...
Up there ("down there" could fit just as well) no body does anybody any favors,
 they all do what's in their best interest.

Samir.
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