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From: JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:34:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92323.163421JCT3
 <1992Nov17.161628.1511@mlb.semi.harris.com> <1992Nov17.161720.3859@lgc.com>
 <75240@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <75240@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) says:
>
>mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) wrote:
>}
>}                    ND usually gets a very ugly reception down south, which
>}has soured many ND alums from ever wanting to play there again.
>
>Can you elaborate on this?  Did Notre Dame get a "very ugly reception"
>in Birmingham, AL or Clemson, SC or Baton Rouge, LA or Jackson, MS or
>at any other place they have played "down south" in recent memory?
>Or are you really just talking about Miami, which is hardly representative
>of the south?

ND did not get an "ugly" reception at Legion Field; the fans were
definitely psyched up, but there wasn't any unpleasantness.  Unless,
of course, you talk to Steve Beurline, who damn near got broken in half
by Cornelius Bennett.

Jim Thomas
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: All AP & CNN/USA pollsters, read this
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:49:31 GMT


>>
>>To all the AP and CNN/USA pollsters:
>>    Please use some common sense! What have TAMU done to deserve this high 
>>ranking? They have the SHITTIEST schedule among the top 10 teams. They fact 
>>that they are still undefeated doesn't mean they are good. Look at their
>>shit schedules. Who have they played so far?? How many games have you guys
>>seen TAMU played so far to say that they are good (From Thurs game, they don't
>>look like a top 25 team to me).
>>    Again, please use some brain when making a vote. 
>
>Now, hold on here.  I think TAMU is full of a bunch of hicks as much as the
>next guy, and I'd love to see their team fall in the polls, but we can turn your
>argument around and note that just because they "have the SHITTIEST schedule
>among the top 10 teams" doesn't mean they are bad.  You'd have to have a
>pretty good reason not to rank ANY undefeated team high at this point in the
>season.

Wow, could I really be the first "hick" in the world to have lived in
five states and to have been born in Europe?    :-)

cmuck <- generic hick

ps- We now have the ammo to win the Cotton Bowl no matter who plays in 
    it...  Thanks for ragging on us!
From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:51:18 GMT
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Nov17.035732.580@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
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|> From: rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
|> Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov17.035732.580@news.nd.edu>
|> Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
|> Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
|> References: <1992Nov14.221735.25690@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <paD=#a@engin.umich.edu> <wf1W5YG00iUxM0dlQ6@andrew.cmu.edu>
|> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:57:32 GMT
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|> 
|> Can anyone give me any justification why Michigan is
|> still ranked ahead of ND in the AP poll?  About the only
|> significant thing Michigan did this season was to tie ND.
|> They almost lost to Purdue and they played a pathetic game
|> against Illinois and went for a last second tie ... giving
|> up any chance to win the MNC.
|> 
|> ND, on the other hand, beat BYU, Boston College, and
|> Penn State. 

I'm not so certain this is saying much.  The only bowl team BC beat was PSU,
and the only bowl team BYU beat was PSU. PSU hasn't beat a bowl team yet.

If UM beats OSU it is as big an accomplishment as ND beating USC. OSU SHOULD
be undefeated.  As it is, they are 8-2 with a win over #8 Syracuse.

ND has a loss, UM doesn't.  Enough said.

 If they keep the string alive and beat  
|> USC then I don't see why they should be ranked behind
|> the Wolverines.  ANy other opinions ...

|> 
|> 		- rob
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>
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Subject: Re: Great Big 8 QBs
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:29:29 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov19.143251.8737@sparky.imd.sterling.com>, marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
>In a recent followup, I asked about the status of some of the great OU QBs and
>I got to thinking that there have been a lot of great QBs in the Big 8, what
>course did their careers take, and what are they up to now?  I've started a
>list, anybody know about these players? Anybody have anybody to add?
>
>   John Hadl - KU alum - Former AFL Start QB with the Chargers
>                         Currently on KU ADept Staff - Fundraiser
>
>   Bobby Douglas - KU Alum - ??

Douglas was with the Bears
>
>   Jerry Tagge - NU alum - Former NFL QB, Packers?
>                           Currently a Businessman in Omaha, NE
>
>   Jack Mildren - OU alum - ??
>
>   Lynn Dickey - KSU alum - Former NFL QB, Packers?

Dickey played for the Packers.
>
>   Thomas Lott - OU alum - NFL???
>                           Holds an elected office in Okla, Preacher
>
>   Darien Hagen - CU alum - NFL with whom?
>
>   Turner Gill - NU Alum - CFL QB with Montreal,  Minor League Baseball
>                           Player, Coached at various colleges.
>                           Currently QB coach at NU
>   
>   Mike Gundy - OSU Alum - ??
>
>   Jamelle Hollieway - OU Alum - Knee injury 
>   
>   Charles Thompson - OU Alum - Prison Term
>                      JUCO Student, JUCO QB

Steve Grogan - KSU Alum - Former NFL NE Patriots
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From: rwood1@artin.helios.nd.edu (richard wood)
Subject: Re: Open question to Notre Dame fans
Reply-To: rwood1@artin.helios.nd.edu (richard wood)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:43:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.002347.1106@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
|> How about if ND drops the Navy game from its schedule, and decides to resume
|> the series with Miami??? Navy hasn't won a game in this series since the 60's.
|> What do you ND'ers think??


The Notre Dame-Miami series was a great one, and I'd
love to see it resumed.  Dropping Navy wouldn't be 
much of a loss either!!  Just my $.02!!

Rich 
Go Irish!!!!
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From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Decline Rose Bowl? (was: "Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES")
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:11:21 GMT

Brett says:
> Schools can always say "no".  Didn't a Big Ten team refuse to go
> to the Rose Bowl one year?  (Another team went...)

You're correct.  Ohio State won the Big Ten outright in 1961, but
turned down the Rose Bowl bid.  The Faculty Council voted 28-25 to
not permit the team to attend, complaining that they were ``upset
over the fact that the image of Ohio State is that the school is
merely an appendage of the football team.''

Minnesota went instead and whomped Pac-10 representative UCLA 21-3.
-- 
Chris Stassen						stassen@alc.com
DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:07:18 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Distribution: world
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> In article <1992Nov19.215031.11822@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes...
> >In article <1992Nov18.192151.9245@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kevin J. Wingfield) writes:
> > 
> >>        After all, the Aggies topped
> >>        Stanford, which blitzed Notre Dame, by the way who put
> >>        a tie on the unblemished record of Michigan.  The Ags, also
> >>        defeated Houston handidly, which manhandled Illinois,
> >>        who also tied Michigan and who also ripped Ohio State ---
> >>        the top two teams in the Big Ten.
> > 
> >Yea, Illinois beat Ohio State, who beat Syracuse, who beat Texas, who beat
> >everyone else in the SWC (and will beat A&M).  Sorry, bud, but noone on
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Texas lost to TCU, who A&M plays this weekend.  TCU is 2-7.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Stupid Bowl Bids
Keywords: Stupidity
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:07:32 GMT

In article <1es0enINN6o9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> kevin@poincare.WPI.EDU (Kevin King) writes:
>How can Nevada(with 5 1-A wins, member of the Big West) 
>receive more votes in the coaches' poll than Wake Forest, 
>who plays in one of the toughest conferences in the country?

says who? None other than ACC fans think so.

>-Kevin King

Njan
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: ISU vs NU Stats....
Originator: delarocq@c00044-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:44:03 GMT




 Those passing stats are abyssmal!!! Not even a 100+ yard passing game!!!!

 What, are all Big 8 teams rushing powerhouses, or are the pass defenses
 awesome beyond belief, or is it the powerhouse rushing defense??
 
 I would never have dreamed that a QB could have just 4 passes in a game!!
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From: jay@puppsr5.Princeton.EDU (Jay Shrauner)
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:38:46 GMT

In article <dkm2.721957688@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan) writes:
>
>In 1990, MSU (&LSU) won the SEC basketball championship.  MSU had the basketball
>team post season, the football post season, baseball post season, tennis post
>season and golf too!  Anyone else had 5 teams in the same year post season?
>

Well I guess it depends what you call post season.  I know Stanford has WON
5 NCAA titles in a single year (ie last year), which tied the record for doing
that.

We also sent our football team to the Aloha Bowl and (probably) our baseball team
to the world series.  While we're at it, our women's downhill ski team was making
it to nationals almost every year lately, and I believe our men's soccer team went
to the NCAA tournament.

So I would estimate we sent 9 teams post season last year.

And hey--a fraternity brother of mine won the gold in windsurfing at the Pan Am
games--not exactly a team sport, but does this count?

Jay Shrauner
Go Cardinal! Pound Cal!

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From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: WeekEnd WacK  11/22/92
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:33:03 GMT

(in approx. order)
		conf    o all
		W L	W L T
Hawaii          6 2     8 2      
bwhyu		6 2     8 4
FresnoSt	5 2	7 4
S.D. St.	5 3     5 4 1
Utah		4 4 	6 5
Air F.		4 4	7 4
Wyo		3 5 	5 7
ColoSt		3 5 	5 7 
N.Mex.		2 6 	3 8
TeX ElP		1 6	1 9

recent results

Hawaii 42, Wyo 18
BwhyU 31, Utah 22
Colo St. 14, NmeX 10
Fresno St 45, Sd St 41  (Lost Faulk due to a Knee injury 52 seconds 
			 into the Game. :-( .)

Hawaii, FresnoSt, S.D.st, AF, and BeeYou are all bowl bound.   5!
Perhaps we (WAC) are improving.
 
.....................
Sumo bonus:  Akebono (aka Chad Rowen of Hawaii) defeated Musashima (Fiamalu
	     Penitani also from Hawaii) for the Championship of the
	     Sumo Tourney held in Fukuoka Japan this Saturday (11/21).
Perhaps they build better cameras but we can out wrestle 'em.
.....................












(bwhyu 35 Nmex 0)


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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Oklahoma clinches Orange Bowl
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:35:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.165525.4059@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>My understanding is that the only tie-breaker in the Big 8 is
>head-to-head record, which is why CU and NU (who had tied each other)
>were co-champions last year at 6-0-1.  When the conference does not
>declare an outright champion, the Orange Bowl can offer its bid to
>either co-champion, and will almost certainly select the highest ranked
>team.
>
>In your scenario, OU and CU tied each other and so would be declared co-
>champions at 5-1-1, but since CU is ranked and OU ain't, Gibbs wouldn't
>have cost his team the Orange Bowl bid (just a share of the conference
>title).
>
>Big 8 fans: Is my understanding of the conference tie-breaker correct?

Yes.

>-- 
>Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com

Bill Dostalik                                Go Sooners!
dostalik@utdallas.edu  or  dostalik@spdc.ti.com
From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best looking cheerleaders in college
Date: 24 Nov 1992 05:53:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


You think you have a great band?  You should come up and check out
the band (and cheerleaders) at Case Western Reserve Univ. (Cleveland)
because they are so good they aren't allowed on TV by the networks
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU-UTAH HYPE
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:18:01 GMT
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$garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald) writes:

>In article <ac#@byu.edu> cheopr@bones.et.byu.edu (Chem. E. Operator) writes:
>>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:04:42 MST
>>From: cheopr@bones.et.byu.edu (Chem. E. Operator)
>>Subject: Re: BYU-UTAH HYPE
>>
>>In article <1992Nov15.191612.1@cc.uvcc.edu>, maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>>>Big game....
>>>Big rivalry...
>>>
>>>After a disappointing start (1-2 in the WAC, and 1-3 overall) 
>>>BYU has a lot to play for this weekend in Salt Lake against Utah.
>>>
>>>With a BYU win comes their 4th straight WAC champianship!!!
>>
>>I don't think that a BYU win over Utah will give BYU the WAC championship.  There would need to be about another 3 if's for this to happen.

>Not the outright title, but a tie for the championship.  Another team will 
>go to the holiday bowl, but BYU still gets the recognition.

>Gary
That's right, and this might actually be the best of both worlds.  BYU gets to
share the conference championship, and it isn't forced to go to the Holiday
Bowl.  That isn't a knock against the Holiday Bowl, but this year it has a
tie-in with a conference in a down year.  I have heard BYU being mentioned as a
possibility for the Freedom Bowl, which I believe has a tie-in with the
3rd-place PAC-10 team.  If that works out, that would be a great game for BYU.

On another note, this also means that the WAC will probably have 4 bowl teams
this year:  SDSU in the Holiday, Hawaii in the Aloha, Air Force in the Liberty,
and BYU wherever.  Fresno State also has a shot at a bowl.   Not bad for a weak
conference.  :^)
-- 
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ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
From: jayakris@translab.its.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Texas 35 SMU 14
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: nnn
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:45:43 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov18.161927.12363@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
>
>>
>>>After thinking about it....  I think Texas played a IAA team, UNT...
>>>Although I beleive they have/are petitioning to move to IA.  Get a
>>>real schdule 'sips...  :-)
>>       ^^^^
>>Since a sooner corrected me, it's time to correct the aggie:
>>schedule
>>
>>Real schedule???
>>Miss. State dosen't count?
>>@ Syracuse    "       "
>>ou            "       "
>>I'm willing to bet that UNT was scheduled because of Arkansas leaving and
>>perhaps a quality opponent not being available at such short notice.
>>
>>Oh, I forgot, you guys played Stanford and um, um, um........
>>
>>-Chris
>>
>>
>then explain why UNT was on your schedule still contained Arkansas?
>Remember the year they almost beat you?
>
>cmuck <- I like ribbing these guys...  pretty soon he will start 
>         talking about the good ole days..  :-)
>


  Come on.... This is getting serious (I thought it was joke when
  something was said about the Texas schedule, but apprantly these
  guys are serious..)

  SMU got the death penalty. Had to be off Texas schedule. We managed
  to get Auburn for one year, but they wouldnt come down to Texas to
  play a second game...(chickens !), and UNT ended up playing us.

  I would say Texas has scheduled the fewest number of patsies in their
  non-conference schedule than anyone else. We played NewMexico State
  and Oregon State in 87 and UNT in 88.. And that's it. The rest were
  2 against BYU, 2 against Penn St, 6 against OU, 3 against Auburn,
  2 aginst Colorado, 1 aginst Syracuse and 2 against Miss.St. in the last 
  seven years.

  So keep your mouth shut !!

  GO HORNS !

  Jay.
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From: kollur@jec310.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: SEC Championship Game 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:44:02 GMT

Is the SEC championship game on at 12:30 EST or 3:30 EST?
 
Ramana
 
.............................................

Nov. 26th
Auburn 999
Alabama  0                     
.............................................
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:13:16 GMT

In article <gf1Q5tO00iV384SUkn@andrew.cmu.edu> wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Karamo Motley) writes:
>Who saw that Notre Dame game today?  I think that the NCAA should either
>be much, much more lenient when they call that excessive celebration
>penalty, or get rid of that call completely.  When you win in the type
>of manner Notre Dame did today, you have every right to go beserk and
>act bananas.  For Christ's sake, they're college kids.  Even pros
>celebrate.  Remember when the Colts beat the Dolphins this year?  

The problem with this rule (and others) is that is requires a subjective
judgement of intent by the officials.  This year, a Colorado player was
penalized after he pointed at a teammate!  Personally, I find the
end-zone dances that follow most scores much more offensive and
unsportsmanlike than a piling on celebration after a last-minute,
game-winning score.

But, hell, I _like_ it when they spike the ball, and they never flag
that.  Does anyone remember that it started specifically as a way to
taunt the opponent, by bouncing the ball at his feet (and hopefully back
up into his face)?
-- 
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: AP make FSU #3
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:43:51 GMT

In article <8f3prOG00iUy80hYoN@andrew.cmu.edu> William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Dave Meeks writes:
>>And just what is a "cock-sucking fag artist"???  A female cigarette painter??
>>I would dare say you should calm down and not make things so personal, it
>>only shows your ignorance, hatred, and stupidity...
>
>Then I shall be IGNORANT, HATEFUL and STUPID....
>Just as long as it annoys the hell out of you.
Don't ever do that, Will. It's hazardous to your health, or your posting
priviledge....

Let me warn you. Meeks has a favorite strategy of threatening to notify 
his opposition's postmaster to intervene when he is losing an argument. So 
don't annoy the hell out of him too much. Every dog has its day.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Organization: SigSauer Fan Club 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:52:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.030804.9175@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson) writes:
>Like Jim said, we'd all love to see Washington dismember the perennially
>overrated Wolverines again, so we can show again what the PAC-10 is --
>and what the Big 10 isn't.
>
alas, this will almost certainly happen.  while conventional wisdom
would certainly agree that the pac-10 is stronger than the big-10
this year, the only way to conclusively demonstrate this would be
to devise some sort of a playoff system.  that the #1 pac-10 team
whips the #1 big-10 team isn't saying a whole lot if the other
pac-10 teams lose to big-10 teams (not that i think this would happen
this year, but the point is valid).  in essence, it comes down
to this: pac-10 is a better conference this year.  however, this
year, as most years, the big-10 has a better crop of loyal fans
who travel to bowls and watch their teams on t.v.  again, if you
don't like it, work towards eliminating the bowls...

drew
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