HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:05:51 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct5.221645.2308@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:

>In article <daved.718259959@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>|Do you all think that it is possible that people are buying a Harley as their 
>|first motorcycle because it is so fashionable, leaving the show room 
>|with their first bike, which happens to be one of the largest fastest
>|bikes you could ever start out on and getting killed?

>  You are trying to tell us that Harley's are the "one of the largest fastest

Well, I stopped by a Harley dealer yesterday and they are certainly large!

Any bike can go fast, it is just a question of how long it takes
to get to speed ( and what you consider fast), For a new rider I would consider 
90MPH to be fast especially since they have no real idea of correct braking technique.


>bikes you could ever start out on"????  What rock have *you* been living
>under???  Largest, certainly, especially if you are using weight as a measure,
>but never "fastest", since there are 500cc bikes that are faster...

The description started with "one of" not "the". You can continue the debate
on what THE largest fastest bike is ( I suspect you have already decided ).
The point I was trying to make is that a Big Harley ( whatever they call them)
other then a 883 has more then enough acceleration, and much to much weight
for a new rider. People are buying them as a fashion statement and getting in way
over there heads. It's as if Russian Roulet was the new fashion craze.

>  The fact that a Harley, often due to its weight and long wheelbase, takes a
>lot of skill to handle properly and are not easy to ride in very tight
>situations by even skilled riders are more likely contributing factors, but

Thank you for supporting my argument in a more cogent manner.

>its certainly not anything to do with the power of a stock Harley (unless its
>because there isn't *enough* power).

For a ZX-11 pilot ( or is that driver or is that operator ) but plenty for 
a newby poser.

>Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
>ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
>DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy


Dave
DoD 1085
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:48:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct4.215159.28182@balrog.dseg.ti.com> keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com 
(Keith A. Schauer) writes:
>
>Geez, BA, keep your weenies to yourselves.

We like to spread them out so we don't have too strong a concentration
here. 


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 00:51:05 GMT

In article <Oct.1.02.02.06.1992.13876@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>
>What can you get for a BMW that you can't get for my FJ?

er, ah, how about a $12 oil filter? :-)

Ride free, and get your parts on discount!

Bill
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From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:28:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: stafford.Stafford-290992162642
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1aadjsINNgct@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R.
Daker) wrote:
> 
> 
> In a previous article, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) says:
> 
> >In article <1992Sep27.220135.1301@msus1.msus.edu>, stafford@msus1.msus.edu
> >wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
> >> 	All the ones I've seen do.
> >
> >Yeah, I do.
> >
> 
> It's mandatory for _real_ DoDers.

Not.  It should be for esthetics reasons alone.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:48:28 GMT

daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:

>I quote after some mention of acceleration in the 1/4 mile " Top-gear roll
>on performance also betters that of the ST1100, currently the best 
>sports tourer on the market" 

Quoting out of context? One of my favorite net.sports! This should be
fun!

>Now let's not forget that the ST1100 has.... 
> less then incredible acceleration

As opposed to:

Cycle: July 1989.
"Pay attention here: With the exception of the '88 V-Max Cycle tested -
and then only in third gear, mind you - the FJ's roll-on numbers are
better than those of any production motorcycle we have ever measured."

Cycle: May, 1991.
"Smooth, quick-revving, able to make speed effortlessly in the lower
reaches of its powerband, the Yamaha has the kind of flick-of-the-wrist
grunt that's irresistable no matter where or how you ride."

See, I told you that this would be fun. :-)

>but more importantly this article in the above
>line re-affirms that the ST110 is still the best Sports tourer in the
>market

Only because they dismissed the FJ1200 as a sport tourer just because it
doesn't come from the factory with hard bags. Nevermind that you can buy
an FJ and a set of Krauser luggage for less than you'd spend on an
ST1100, and get both a better bike and more luggage capacity.

Of course similar arguments could be made for bikes like the ZX-11.
Hey Randy? Your turn at bat!
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:02:16 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

In article <Bvnxwz.HJ3@mail.boi.hp.com>, edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
wrote:
> 
> mercer@newton.apple.com (Paul Mercer) writes:
> : I have recently given up the tank bag so I'm going to see about mounting
> : the Solo some other way.
> : Paul Mercer
> 
> Buy an Aerostich suit. Unzip right front sleeve/cuff pocket. With appropriate
> sewing machine, sew a buttonhole through from inside the pocket to inside
> the sleeve. Place Solo in pocket. Run earplug wire through sleeve and 
> buttonhole. 
> 
Hold it.  Don't these units emit radiation, albeit very little?  Was it
not this radiation which allegedly caused testicular cancer in a
number of cops who put the radar gun in their lap while waiting to
gun down speeders?  Wouldn't it be a little unwise to put the unit
next to your body?
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Good Gear for good prices?
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:46:17 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	Where can I get a new `real' bike jacket for under $300?
	I'm also going to need a new rear tire for an 85 NightHawk 700.
the current tire is a Metzler, is this going to cost me around
$100?

		Basically I am looking for a good mail order company that
anyone out there has had good dealings with and knows they don't
jerk you chain as it were. 

	Ryan M. Gill
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: snapped off bolt
Keywords: fucked myself good
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:34:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.124909@is.morgan.com> spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:
}In the process of removing it, I have snapped off one of the studs for bolting
}the headers to the engine. What is the standard procedure for removing such an
}animal without major destruction?????????????

If this animal is just a bolt and nothing more eccentric, just get an
extractor (or a set). They look kinda like drill bits but are threaded
in the opposite direction. You select an extractor that is roughly
half the diameter of the piece of bolt to be removed, drill a small
pilot hole into the bolt, then screw the extractor in counterclockwise.
When the extractor goes in deep enough to seat itself it`ll automagically
begin extracting the bolt as you continue to turn it.

Lots of Liquid Wrench or similar lube is recommended; lube it and tap
it hard several times with soak time in between to loosen it up before
extracting it.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: Helmet law speech (help!)
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:02:51 GMT

In article <BvDEy4.2tC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mikeh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Hollyman) writes:
>I have a speech to do on the helmet law and I would appreciate any stats that
>you may have on the results.  I have to take the point that helmets don't
>make riding safer.  Anyone have any info to back that up?

	I have statistics to show that helmets don't make a statistically
significant impact upon head injuries.  The other side can come up with
statistics that say there is significant impact.  Even I, who hates the
idea of helmet laws and thinks that anyone advocating helmet laws should
be fed to a rabid llama, cannot say with a clear conscience that I think
it is safer to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.

	ObStatistic:  Supposedly, the state of Nevada had something like
2.95 fatalities per 10000 rider miles before the helmet law, and 2.91
after.  That difference is "in the noise," so to speak.  I can't remember
the units on the number 10000 for certain.  I'll look it up if anyone cares
(no the source wasn't _Easyriders_).

Later,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            1975 CB360T (needs a name)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Subject: Re: Shoei X-8  WHO HAS ONE?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:27:46 GMT

In article <23914@sybase.sybase.com> alexb@sybase.com (Alex Burmester) writes:
>I have a RF200 and I was wondering if the wind noise is significantly
>different between the two shoei's.
>
>My particular problem is that I have a Seca II and I'm tall,  therefore the
>tiny windscreen deflects a whole lot of turbulence right at my neck which
>makes it sound like I'm inside a turbine engine at > 45mph.
>
>If you send mail to alexb@sybase.com I should get it,  If you forward mail
>back along the path it came I might get it.
>
>--
>WWWWWW |^^^^| ||||||  /^^\  ww/\ww """"""  |GOT MY SECA II!   Now if my pal |  
>(O)(O) (*)(*) <o><o> (@)(@) (-)(-) [o]{+}  |will just come back from Russia | 
>|  \ | |  \ | | /  | |  \ | |  > | | ^__|  |to take the vision away I'll be |
> \~~/   \_O/   \^^/   \()/   \_~/   \Q     |happy.   Email: alexb@sybase.com|

     The last helmet test in Motorcyclist rated the RF200 the quietest, even 
better than the X-8- go figure. Shoei is advertising the X-8 as a quiter helmet
though ? I don't own both so it's hard to say first hand. I usually wear
earplugs also.

     "86 Ninja 600R"                               K.O.
  "DOD #306 AMA #615088"                       T.I. Dallas Tx.
    "Eclipse GS Turbo"                      Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com
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From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Re: Noemi Berry Owns Stock in a Tennis Ball Company
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 08:10:52 GMT

>Noemi seen playing with Tennis Balls,  Story at 11.

who's Tenni?

apologies,
noemi
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	NM (Next Motorcycle) countdown: $3000 left to go :-(
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Who are in KEITH_ANN.GIF at DoD archives?
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:50:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.193726.820@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan) writes:
>I was poking around the DoD archives at cerritos and found
>KEITH_ANN.GIF.  "Wow!"  I figured.  Somebody digitized a picture
>of my wife and I.  I wonder what the pictue is like?

It's not bad.  Photography by Amy Swint.  Scanning, cropping & color adjustment
by me.

>
>Well imagine my surpise (and disappointment) when I saw some
>strangers posing before Capulin Volcano National Monument.

Strangers?  Not to me.  I resemble that man and my wife looks alot like that
woman.  On our way to the Ride 'n Feed on a nice crisp New Mexico morning.

>
>hmm. So is there another Keith and Anne in the DoD?

Close.  There is a Keith and Ann in the DoD.

>
>curious,

Come on down to Dallas sometime.  We've got BNR down here.  Make it a business
trip. Drop me a line.

>Keith Hanlan KeithH@bnr.ca  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada 613-765-4645
>and Anne Soucy.
>
>DoD #245

Keith & Ann Schauer

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: car377@druhi.ATT.COM (RogersC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Summary: motorcycle grenade
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:51:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.224050.1303@msus1.msus.edu>, pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> In article <1992Sep25.134037.457@sbctri.sbc.com>, asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper) writes:
> > I got on the bike this morning and the battery was dead. Since the
> > bike's battery is 12 volts, and my car's battery is 12 volts, can I
> > use the car battery to jump it? The bike owner's manual only says that
> > a 12 volt booster battery should be used. No mention of amperage, etc.
> 
> Done it many times on many bikes.  

This sort of argument is also used frequently as a reason why a condom 
or some other form of birth control protection isn't really necessary.  
"Hundreds and hundreds of times and *nothing* happened!"

> 12v. is 12v. (or whatever the voltage
> really is).  

Yeah, and 200 amps is 200 amps.  Dump 200 amps into a shorted
motorcycle starting motor (or jammed, approximately the same thing as 
shorted), shorted wiring harness, or shorted battery and many really 
*interesting* and *sparkly* things will happen to the bike. And to *you*, 
if you're standing close enough.  Batteries can and do explode under such
conditions.  Wiring harnesses melt and/or ignite and burn.  There is
no fuse in the primary starter motor power circuit.  

Motorcycle batteries are typically 12 or 14 Amp-hour batteries.   
They should be charged at no more than 1/10 that rating for reasons
of safety and battery life.  You may get away with jumping a bike 
from a car battery, but if you don't, the results can be pretty messy.

> BUT, leave the car engine OFF.  The car alternator or generator
> output may screw things up.

It increases the applied voltage (and therefore the current supplied) as
well as adding its output to the car battery output,  a bad thing if
you have a short.  If you must jump a bike battery with a car
battery, shut off the engine and turn the car high-beam headlights 
and accessories on to reduce the amount of current available to the 
bike, just in case you *do* have a short or in case you develop one 
while attempting to start the bike.  Take all the safety precautions 
you would if you expected the battery to explode when you push the
starter button.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:39:18 GMT

v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (I AM the Nighthawk) writes:

> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes...
 
>>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
>>	All the ones I've seen do.

>	Affirmative from me.... DoD #682  Ethan Bowerman

	Full-face or no face is my motto.  I also wear a full set of
leathers.  The phrase, "Fore-warned is fore-armed" should be readily
apparent to this particular group of riders.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:37:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

>HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET writes:

>How far does the average Denizen commute?

10.5 miles one way. 6.0 minutes at DoD nominal speed...
--
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22425 E. Appleway Ave.        |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!hela!marcl
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From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: What means "Poser"?
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:30:29 -0600
Distribution: usa
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1992Oct3.210032.26229@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
> 
> 
>                                 POSER!!
> 

SomewhereD during all the discussion of DoD Approved Helmets someone used
this term in reference to me.  Now it appears during a debate of leather
vs the DoD Approved Riding Suit.  What exactly does it mean?  

When I'm accused of some deed or other, I usually have some idea of what
my accuser means.  I can't seem to get a handle on this one, though.  I
have a pretty good idea of "squid",; and "RUB" I've run into before; but
I've never heard this term anywhere else.

Not that I give a pint tin of dingo's* kidneys about the opinions of DoDers
in general, but I'd at least like to know what I've been accused of when 
someone(I don't remember who) called me a "poser".

What say you, DoDers, what's *your* definition of "poser"?

Pooder (the poser?) - Rochester, MN - DoD #591

Rider of Gretchen  (lookin' way cool) and Harvey (nerd bike from the past)

*I guess that should be "llama's".

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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Kawasaki copies everyone else!
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:05:47 GMT

In article <barrongj.718093015@marsh> barrongj@cs.curtin.edu.au (Greg Barron) writes:
>
>I've never heard a bigger crock of shit in my life. What other inovations 
>has the Big K brought out which I can shove right up thid guys arse!
>
It seems to me that the 2-stroke triples and the Z-1 broke new ground.
My impression is that Kawasaki has always been pushing the performance
envelope.

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
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From: cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Catherine Barbara Saum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: LOOKING FOR LEATHERS
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:51:14 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,

Was wondering if any of you folks had any suggestions as to a reasonable
place to buy custom (or not) leathers (racing).  I'm presently looking
at SYED.  I know there stuff is good, but I don't know if the ol' pocket
book thinks so...

Any suggestions, address'/numbers. opinions, are appreciated.

tanks munch,
Cathy

************************************************************
Cathy Saum "Ouisey".........V.P. Carnegie Mellon Riding Club
3404 Juliet St..........................cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213....'73 Honda CL450 (custom wooden tank)
(412) 683-6454......................'64 1/2 Mustang (351 V8) 
...........................(hopefully soon) ____ Yamaha SECA
************************************************************
"Go dat vay real vast. If something gets in your vay, turn."
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: 'taint been (Re: More gasohol) for a long time.
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 06:16:12 GMT

joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
>kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>]In article <1992Sep30.185202.9770@megatek.com>, randy@ninja.megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:

>]] For that matter, 0-60 for most sport-liter bikes is
>]] in the 3.0 and high 2's, the ZX-11 is supposedly 2.8.

>]Probably even better.  You must hit 60 in first - do you think it
>]takes 3 seconds to wind it to red?  I don't, and the numbers I've seen
>]agree.   

>actually, I recall reading that the ZX-11 had a 2.3 0-60 time, max of 67mph
>in 1st gear. I remember this only becuase I have a poster of a Vector (a
>lamborghini looking thing with a 650hp aluminum twin turbo V-8) which includes
>some specs across the bottom, one of which is it's 0-60 time of 2.5 seconds.
>I always liked to point out to casual readers that my ZX-11's 0-60 time was
>under that.

Not to burst your bubble or anything, but:

                  1/4 mile     0-60
ZX-11 *(91)  Kaw  10.51@132.21 2.65
ZX11 *(90)   Kaw  10.52@131.82 2.65
ZX10 *(88)   Kaw  10.71@128.62 2.65
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Catherine Barbara Saum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yamaha Seca II
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:56:44 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>I am interested in purchasing a Seca II, and am interested
>in comments from owners and riders of the Seca II.

Brian, could you pass any inof you get reguarding the Seca on to me ?
Thanks!

-Cathy


************************************************************
Cathy Saum "Ouisey".........V.P. Carnegie Mellon Riding Club
3404 Juliet St..........................cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213....'73 Honda CL450 (custom wooden tank)
(412) 683-6454......................'64 1/2 Mustang (351 V8) 
........................(hopefully soon) '81 Yamaha SECA 650
************************************************************
"Go dat vay real vast. If something gets in your vay, turn."
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