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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Workstation from Apple, any time soon?
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:49:31 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
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In article <macwhiz.720889008@gawain.cif.rochester.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), macwhiz@cif.rochester.edu (Rob Levandowski) writes:
> In <1992Nov2.214841.2010@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> yuanj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> 
> >Is Apple going to put out some workstations any time soon?  I mean something
> >like the Silicon Graphics Indigo, or IBM 6000.
> 
> >I really wish they do, and as soon as possible!
> 
> According to the November BYTE, they already do... the BYTE Labs have
> decided that the Quadra 950 is a better personal workstation than either
> the Iris Indigo or the IBM RS/6000 Powerstation/350.

I used to have a VaxStation II a few years ago.  My Q900 has
more memory (36M vs. 16m), better graphics (16" 24-bit color +
8-bit portrait vs. 19" monochrome), faster CPU (25MHz 68040 vs.
microVax II), better processor bus (NuBus vs. Q-bus), better
hard disks (240M SCSI + 210M SCSI + CD-ROM + SyQyest vs. ???about
100M???), a much easier access to the bus bay, and they both
have ethernet built in.  The MacOS isn't VMS, but then the Mac
has much more "useful" programs available - and they both run
Unix if you are of that persuasion.

Sure looks like a workstation to me...

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From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.mac
Subject: Re: Please help with FRAUD case!  Beware!
Date: 16 Nov 1992 14:52:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
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In a previous article, nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello) says:

>>
>>Whatever the Latin for it is, let both parties be paranoid.
>>
>
>    Caveat venditor, seller beware
>
>      Caveat emptor, buyer beware
>
>                   ... always good advice.

another favorite of mine from CNBC "Steals and Deals"

	If a deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is !
From: jk5x+@andrew.cmu.edu (John O. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Help: MacIIci Cache Card
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:38:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wf1xmKO00WA102YYAZ
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

HI all,

	I was just wondering what the difference ,if any, the size of the cache
card (32K, 64K, or 128K) and if there are any compatibility problems any
of them.  Also I was wondering what the price differences were and if
cache cards from some other companies and better than others

Thanks in advance,
john
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: yuppie@bradley.bradley.edu (Daniel Funderburk)
Subject: Mouse
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:10:36 GMT

I don't believe apple is switching mice, I believe it depends on the machine
you buy.  Here's what I've noticed (although I haven't looked for USA or
Malaysia mice):

	Classic II......Light Mouse
	LC II...........Both usually Heavy
	IIsi............Heavy
	IIci............Light
	Quadra 700......Light
	Quadra 950......Heavy

We've received large number of each machine, except for the 950, and most
mice follow this pattern.  We have ordered a IIvx, but seeing how Apple
is being so slow to education resellers, we may never know.

Dan Funderburk
PC Resale
Bradley University
From: jjd@bbn.com (James J Dempsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Need copmany to convert PowerBook internal 80M to external.
Summary: How about Duo?
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:03:56 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Nov16.225626.3366@u.washington.edu>, jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu (Jason Smith) writes:
> 
> 	I just recieved a PB 180 4/80 on friday.  Unfortunately, I had to
> settle for the 4/80, a 4/120 is what I ordered, but availability was close
> to none, as I was told.  So, now I need to buy an external drive to up my
> storage.  I calculated that for an extra $200 I could buy an external 120M
> drive (added on to the price I saved by getting the 4/80), but I'd like to
> swap the 120 to an internal, and make the now internal 80 into an external.

I was thinking about doing the exact same thing with a Powerbook Duo.
Since the 120MB versions seem to be in short supply and Apple is
charging an arm and a leg for the 120MB drive anyway, it seems like it
might be a good idea to just buy the 80MB version and a third party
external 120MB Quantum GO drive and swap the two drive mechanisms.
As Mr. Smith says, in the end you get an external 80MB drive for about $200. 

The question is: Will just any 2.5" drive fit in the Duos?  If I buy a
Quantum GO 120 external from APS will I have any trouble swapping the
Quantum mechanism into the Duo?

Thanks,

		--Jim Dempsey--
		jjd@bbn.com
From: blade@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (blade)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Sticky Mouse Button, Other ADB (Keyboard) Problems
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:06:23 GMT
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carl.pedersen@dartmouth.edu (L. Carl Pedersen)

I, too, have had problems with the sticky ADB keyboard and mouse.
I have seen the sticky mouse under System 7 on both the Quadra 700
and the IIci--usually the system thinks that the mouse button is
being held down when it's really not.

I have seen the keyboard get stuck in several programs and in the
finder in both System 7 and System 6 on the SE and the IIci.  What
usually happens is that I type "to " (note space after the "o") and
the keyboard locks up.  I can unlock it by clicking the mouse 
somewhere else and maybe some other ways that I've forgotten.
This keyboard lockup only happens intermittently.

-blade
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Academic Computing Center
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 08:49:55 +01
From: <GHGAPAC@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Two questions about SE and Si

My SE diskdrive goes mental | From time to time, he refuses all disks, saying t
hey are not initialized. When trying to initialize, he can't do it.
      Gotta By a new drive I guess ?  (He's only 6 years old |)

I got an Si with 16'' color screen, so I have two cards installed (don't know t
heir names, but as I'm bi-left-handed, I remember I had a lot of troubles insta
lling them |) It seemed to me that in an Si there is only place for those two c
ards, and nothing extra. Now last week I saw an ad for those "rocket" cards, an
d I was Quite impressed. Is there a way to install them withouth having to $$$
extra and without throwing away my old 2 cards and by 2 new ones or so ?
      thanks
           jer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sfuller@tamsun.tamu.edu (Steve Fuller)
Subject: Re: Farewell to the Mac? (not flame)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:18:56 GMT

I have a few questions that someone might be able to address:

In article <1992Nov19.224857.11857@times.aux.apple.com> coolidge@apple.com
writes:

>Yes and no. The PowerPC family _are_ Macs. The idea is that anything
>that runs on the current Mac line will run on the PowerPC Macintosh
>(at speeds similar to the current high-end Macintosh machines). In
>addition, native PowerPC applications will run much faster than
>anything in the current line.

Do you mean Apple's PowerPC machines or all PowerPC's? I would guess that
the PowerMacs would require an Apple ROM. 

Will I be able of buy a machine from IBM or perhaps a 'clone' vendor and
buy the OS from Apple? Would I need to purchase an Apple ROM? 

[....]

>
>This is Just Plain Wrong (TM). There is no single thing which is "the
>system software for the PowerPC". There will be at least three
>operating systems for the PowerPC:
>	1) The Macintosh OS
>	2) PowerOpen (A/UX 4.0 aka Unix)
>	3) TaligentOS
>The first should be available when the first PowerPC Macintosh systems
>ship; the second at or around that point. The third is probably a
>couple years away according to public statements made by Taligent.

By 'The Macintosh OS' do you mean:

A. MacOS on top on A/UX?
B. The current System 7.0 translated into native PPC code?
C. The new microkernal OS?
D. All of the above?   :-)

/s Steve Fuller        sfuller@tamu.edu        Texas A&M University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ckyu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chen-Kuang Yu)
Subject: OK to have no termination on last SCSI device?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 20:29:42 GMT

Hi,

	I posted a "help" message a few days ago regarding hooking up
my pb170 to an external LaCie drive and getting a lot of system errors.

	It turns out that all problems are gone if I turn off the
internal termination (ie. there's no termination).  But that drive is
my only external SCSI device, and I should have the termination on
according to the manual.

	LaCie tech support said it's ok to have no termination.  Is
that true?  Or is the drive defective?  What's the use of termination
then if one can turn it on/off?  Does having no termination degrades
data intergrity?  Although the drive seems to be working fine now, I
don't feel quite comfortable without the termination on.

	Hope you experts ou there could give me some assurance of
LaCie's claim (that it's alright to have the termination off).

	Thanks in advance...

/Chen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
From: Daniel Schwabe <schwabe@inf.puc-rio.br>
Subject: PB 160/180 and sys 7.0.1
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Organization: Departamento de Informatica    PUC-Rio
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:44:00 GMT
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:42:25 GMT
X-Posted-From: mac-dan.inf.puc-rio.br
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

From some messages in the net (or maybe I misunderstood it), it seems
that the PB 160/180 CAN'T run sys 7.0.1 - Is it true? If so, why?

Daniel Schwabe                  Dept. de Informatica, PUC-Rio
Tel: +55-21-529 9544/274 4449   R. M. de S. Vicente, 225
Fax: +55-21-511 5645            Rio de Janeiro, RJ 22453-900, Brasil
From: js12@newshost.gte.com (john schettino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Farewell to the Mac? (not flame)
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:23:37 GMT
Reply-To: js12@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <timmbake.722130353@mcl>, timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu (Bake Timmons) writes:
|> 
[snip]
|> In article <1992Nov18.214145.2579@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
|> 
[snip]
|> >Oh, give me a break. There are SO many people out there that want macs,
|> >but are afraid to buy one, because two months later, there's a way better
|> >model of it out at only $200 more than what you just paid. (a great
|> >example is the pb 145)
|> >
|> >I'm not justifying this reasoning, but in a way, I can whole-heartedly
|> >agree with them.
|> 
|> In what way?  I have to admit, as a former Apple II owner, I might have had the
|> same sentiments, _BUT_ now I recognize this silly attitude for what it is --
|> NONSENSE.  Hopefully, when you shell out for a Mac you have some idea of what
|> you want to do with it.  Hopefully, these great numbers of people you refer to
|> have such an idea, and are more concerned about being productive than having
|> bragging rights about whose machine rules (rights that have about the lifespan
|> of a housefly!).  The pb 145 is _NOT_ a great example, because anyone who
|> bought a pb 140 WITH THEIR FUTURE NEEDS IN MIND is to busy being productive to
|> worry about the increased value of a pb 145.
|> >

I have a PB 140 (bought it in april '92) that my spouse and I use for on-the-road
work. We've got a ci at home. Yesterday she tells me about her day, including being
asked "is that a POWERBOOK?" while working on it waiting for an appointment. She
was asked if she liked it and replied "It's changed my life".

She doesn't care that a new model has replaced it, or that it's not the most
advanced PB available. She cares that it gives her all of the power of her ci at
home, but in an on-the-road package. That is EXACTLY why we bought it!

my points are:

technology changes fast
once YOUR price/performance threshold is met, and you have the need & cash, get it!
expect anything you buy to be "worthless" in 6 months
expect to USE anything you buy for 2-3 years
don't worry, be productive (sorry Bobby)

I've been on the bleading edge of computer technology for most of my life, and I love it.
I never regretted getting an Osbourne I, PC XT, PC AT, Toshiba T-1000, Mac IIci, or the PB140.
Of all those beasties, the two Macs remain in use, the others were sold to 'trailing
edge' folk who got damn nice machines for 10-20% of what I bought 'em for. Good deal for
them, but also for me. I got to USE them for two to three years. That ci is looking
great after three years.


"Your milage may vary" 

- john schettino
GTELabs Waltham MA
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Macintosh Duo's
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:57:23 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <PREECE.92Nov3090729@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece) writes:
> In article <Bwyo6s.DJs@access.digex.com> hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:
> 
> |   FLOPPY.... I meant FLOPPY.  The 160 has a nice integral floppy drive.
> |   And all the ports I could ever want (and NOT want).  With a duo I have to
> |   spring for a dock.  See the Duo isn't really a portable machine.  It's a
> |   machine that is both your desktop machine AND a portable.  That's a win if
> |   you don't have a desktop machien already.  But if you want to hack on the
> |   road I think the 160 has a superior, sharper screen... a larger and easier
> |   to handle trackball and keyboard and no extra investment down the road.
> ---
> I may be monomaniacal on this, but 2 pounds seems like a *big* win to
> me.  Like maybe the difference between bothering to take the machine
> with me on a lot of my trips and leaving it home.  I would have thought
> that the networking capability would be enough to make up for the lack
> of a floppy -- at home plug it into the desktop machine you already said
> you had; on the road, in a real pinch, go down to Kinkos and plug it
> into one of their Macs, if you really need to read a floppy.

We have a PB100.  No floppy there and we've never missed it.  We do
often hook it up to our home localTalk network to exchange files with
our main machines (my wife's or mine) or to print to the LaserWriter.

The only time you really _need_ a floppy is when the disk goes south,
and the ability of the PowerBook to act as hard disk when hooked up
via SCSI solves that problem.

P.S.  I once plugged the PB100 into the SCSI port when it was asleep
(by accident).  When I turned on the PB100 by hitting a key I was
greeted with a message that said something like "Hey! Don't do that.
Please unplug me as soon as you can!"  Nice job...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Eric Oberle <eoberle@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: Powerbook DUO Memory
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X-Xxdate: Sat, 21 Nov 92 21:43:32 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 21:43:19 GMT

Hello:	

I have a few questions about the memory in the new Powerbook Duos:

Does anyone know what kind of memory simms one can put in a Powerbook duo
240?  Are these available now?  
What are the configurations of Simms that one can put in a Duo?  
What set of Simms comes in a machine with 4mb?

Thanks for your help

Eric Oberle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Danny W. McCampbell <danny@utkux1.utk.edu>
Subject: How long should I charge my PB batter?
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20: 00:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Tennessee
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:02:46 GMT

When I charge my Powerbook Battery by hooking up the AC
adapter to my PB, should I disconnect the AC adapter
when the chooser's Battery shows that the batter is charged?
Can I safely leave the AC adapter hooked to the PB so 
I can use the batter for later?  Help, I do not want to tear
any thing up.

Danny
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:19:56 -0500 
From: "Brian J. Cardanha" <bc2t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: SCSI External Hard Drive Cases and Drives

Does anyone out there know of a good, inexpensive company which sells
SCSI cass (which must include power supply and all wiring to make an
internal drive into an external)?  Or does anyone have a used one (or an
external drive which the mechanism has died on) that they would want to
sell for cheap?  
Any response would be helpful.

Thanks,
Brian Cardanha

Any response can be emailed to:   bc2t@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ck10858@medtronic.COM (Catherine Kriegler)
Subject: Re: 3rd Party DuoDocks?
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:00:06 GMT

I would be interested in a 3rd party dock which allows you
to have access to expansion cards (ie a/d convertors) while 
still being able to use the monitor on the duo.  
Does anyone know of such a product? Or of a company that
may be developing one?

Thanks in advance

Cathy
From: ma168faf@imath7.ucsd.edu (Matthew Guarnotta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: *****Monitor as television***
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:06:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.41160
Organization: Univsersity of California, San Diego


What is the necessary hardware (Ram, NuBus card, HD space) to set up

my Mac Quadra 700 as a video editing machine. Can I capture pictures

from television programs....How big is the window on a 16" montior???

I also want to run my VCR through it is this possible...How much is a 

VideoSpigot and who makes it??? IS 4megs of RAM enough??? IS 15 frames

per second a fast capture rate....ANy novice books out there to read???

please mail   ma168faf@sdcc16.ucsd.edu

Thanks

The force will be with you .....Always!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: ken@jazz.concert.net (Ken Whitfield)
Subject: Upgrading a Laser Printer
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:17:58 GMT

I have a panasonic kxp 4450. It's fine printer but, non postscript.
The printer is connected to a MAC an IBM/PC. I've seen different 
posting for laser printer logic boards and was wondering if I could
retrofit an apple NTX logic board into this printer. BTW, the panasonic
upgrade from panasonic costs ($1900). Does anyone have any experience
printer upgrades or could direct me to a "How-To-Do" book?
From: spyvej@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (S91)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: VGA -> MAC LC II
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:49:04 GMT


Could anyone give me the relevant information
regarding the connection of a PC vga monitor
to my MAC LCII.  I know it can be done, but
just don't know how !

Thanks,
      Jon Spyve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: What's a Good Modem to Buy??
From: cuy@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:59:12 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co.-Huntington Bch
Nntp-Posting-User: gora

Hi all, again!

(The amount of info available on the net always surprises me)
Thanks to those who responded to my post about laserwriters.

Here's another question (if you can't tell, I'm working on getting
a Mac, and the questions I have don't always occur to me at the same
time):

I'm thinking of getting a modem/fax (hopefully <$300).  Can
anyone recommend a good modem/fax?  What's a good speed to get on a
modem?  Is it better to get an internal one or an external one?
Any other info that you think will be important in getting on will
be much appreciated.

Thanks again,
-- 
==============================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven U. Grenander)
Subject: Re: radius rocketshare
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:17:16 GMT

In article <16NOV199217095330@cc.utah.edu>, lallu@cc.utah.edu (Upmanu Lall,
Civil Eng) wrote:
> 
> I bought a Radius 33mhz Rocket in April, when they 1st came out, with the 
> understanding that they'll release Rocketshare pretty soon, which will provide 
> multiprocessing and an
> ability to use the rocket with my mac IIfx
> However, I have heard nothing more about this product.
> Was it ever released ?
> If yes, what is it priced at (Univ discounts ?)?
> How well, does it work (In particular on the IIfx ?)?
> thanks for the information
> please reply to ulall@pub.uwrl.usu.edu
> 
> S

I've just had a long e-mail exchange with david_rowe@qmgate.radius.com who
seems both technically well informed and helpful. I'd suggest you contact
him and get the latest scoop.

He's just about convinced me to get a 33 for my private fx, just have to
make sure that the fx power supply will handle it (and the other nubus
cards as well as a bunch of RAM).

BTW, have you been running the rocket up 'til now ? What have your
experiences been ?

-Sven

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,su.macintosh
From: sheckler@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steven Heckler)
Subject: 7.1 Error #23
Followup-To: sheckler@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:53:06 GMT

    What is error #23 under System 7.1?  My roommate is getting it on his
SE/30 with 5 MB RAM whenever he tries to run Excel 4.0.  Please e-mail me
directly with the answer and I will post a summery.  Thanks!

                             Steve Heckler
                             sheckler@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware