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From: schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: post
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:45:48 CDT
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From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: more on Dio
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:32:53 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

In article <1992Sep11.183905.8291@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>>
>>Strange change of pace for ol' RJD.
>
>Dio has said that he didn't know about the album being Christian music
>when he sung those songs.
>

Well, maybe so, but regardless of whether the whole album is "Christian Rock"
or not, those songs are unmistakably religiously oriented. So RJD
must not have been paying too much attention to what he was singing. I
think Dio saying he didn't know is kind of like Clinton saying he
didn't inhale :-) - I don't buy it. 

But hey, I don't care if he sang with BeeBee and CeeCee Winans - he's
DIO!!! 'nuff said!

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Top 5 metal groups
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:41:08 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

OK, I'll play.  In no particular order:

1. Black Sabbath
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Slayer
4. S.O.D.
5. Ministry

That should fan the flames!

--Rob  spray@convex.com

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Re: DREAM THEATRE/ INFO PLEASE
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:22:55 GMT

In article <56008@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> scaruffi@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Piero Scaruffi) writes:
>1. WHo are they?

A lame metal band masquerading as a progressive rock act.

>2. How may albums have they out?

2

>3. Recommendations?

Buy a six pack of gatorade instead. It'll accomplish the same thing
cheaper. Neither leave you thirsty for more.

>4. What label are they on?

Prozac.

Oops, I mean Atlantic!

Oh, BTW all you A.R.'s out there. This was IMHO of course. 

Oh, of course!

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: adg2@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew david gross)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Schenker Analysis
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:02:54 GMT
Reply-To: adg2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Does anyone know if the Schenker brothers are related to the famous Austrian
musicologist who developed Schenker analysis of harmonic forms?

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From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: OVERWHELMING COLORFAST, ROADRACER
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:22:08 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <55982@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> scaruffi@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Piero Scaruffi) writes:
>
>
>Anybody heard of the Overwhelming Colorfast?
>Comments?

   Don't you mean Overwhelming Husker Du Ripoff?

                                                                K!z!K
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: adg2@ellis.uchicago.edu (andrew david gross)
Subject: Re: ManOwaR
Reply-To: adg2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:33:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.125508.9387@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:>
>I just got SIGN OF THE HAMMER. Great album, although "Guyana" sounds like a
>Chinese pop music ballad (the vocal part, not the guitar riffs). Is Grand
>Slamm rereleasing the old 10 Records Manowar set?
>

Are you kidding? Well, maybe you don't have their other albums. SIGN OF THE
HAMMER is BY FAR their worst album. The disparity in quality between it and
their other five albums is about as great as the disparity between the new
Metallica album and its companions. I'm not sure what the deal is with the
other albums and Grand Slamm. I recently BATTLE HYMNS on CD. It's an import
on EMI. I also heard a few months ago that they were going to re-release
HAIL TO ENGLAND on CD over in Europe. That's a killer album. I have INTO
GLORY RIDE on vinyl. IMHO, INTO GLORY RIDE is the greatest heavy metal album
ever that wasn't produced by Metallica.

Where did y'all hear about Scott's having to take time off?

Also, what is "the old 10 Records Manowar set?"



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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: Spell it Right
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:09:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.035351.13241@seas.gwu.edu> claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee) writes:
>I realized that this bboard is innundated with posers when I read all
>the misspellings of "Megadeth".  Even a mental zero like Maple can
>spell it correctly.  All those who spelled it, "Megadeath," go crawl
>up Lars Ulrich's ass and DIE!

And how is it with people who don't even know where they are posting?
This is a newsgroup, no fucking bboard. Go read news.announce.newusers.

(Sorry, it's early morning etc... :-)

(Article was so stupid it's no use putting singatures to it too)
From: bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: more on Dio
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:45:00 GMT
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BuFAFt.8Gr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, azrael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (AZRAEL-The Angel of Death) writes...
>In article <1992Sep8.181413.9754@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>>In article <Bu9rC5.ExF@acsu.buffalo.edu> v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz) writes:
>>>After all this talk on Dio, I figure on asking even more info :)
>>>A few years ago, I had heard of some sort of rock or metal opera that
>>>Dio was singing on. I have no idea what it was called...maybe Tapio could
>>>fill us in.  Is it any good?
>>Hmm.... I've never heard of this kind of thing. Unless you mean Hear
>>N' Aid project; Dio got some 40 metal singers / guitarists / drummers
>>together and they made a single and an album. Do you mean this one?
> 
>    I have heard of this or something like it but hav had a miserable
> 
>    time trying to find it.  I think the title may be something like
> 
>    Butterfly Ball and had something to do with one of the members of 
> 
>    Kansas (kerry somebody or another).  If anyone can help in any way
> 
>    please post or email (I know very little about Kansas)
> 
>                                      azrael
> 

You can take this with a grain of salt, but here it goes.  If I am not 
mistaken, Dio was on the pipes for Kerry Livgren's solo album, some 
kind of Christian thing.  I remember this because many of my friends 
years ago were like "Why you listen to devil music, Dio and all, man?" 
Well, an article/interview came out with Dio saying he had sung on a 
Christian album (He didn't know it was going to be religious).  Made 
my friends take note.  Dio a devil worshipper.  Imaginations run wild.

I don't know haw many of you on the net are musically inclined, but 
Dio being a devil worshipper because of the music he sang really got 
to me.  Back in the 15th or 16th century, if a classically composed 
piece ended in a minor chord, people thought the composer and anyone 
playing would go to hell.  What a crock.  Some of those are famous 
now, like Stravinsky's pieces.  Just my 2".

Greg
From: aproden@ac.dal.ca (Andrew P. Rodenhiser)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Kiss Tour
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:55:42 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <18589.2aab3811@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
> In article <1992Sep5.032259.1832@seas.gwu.edu>, maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji) writes:
>> 
>> cumminje@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (James E. Cummings) writes:
>> : 
>> : Does anyone know when Kiss will be on tour
>> 
>> KISS IS NOT METAL.  GO TO ALT.R-N-R.HARD.ON AND POST ABOUT YOUR
>> POSER BANDS THERE!!
>> 
> 
> You are a fucking poser, hoping everyone is going to pay attention to the 
> crap you post on this newsgroup. I think you should go back to the toilet
> and try and unattach your hand from your dick.
> 
> 
> Fuck Off.
> 
> 
> "Put your hand in my pocket, grab onto my rocket."
> 
> A.J. Slazenger.
> 
> 
Thank you, A.J.  Why do people have to argue what is metal and
what isn't?  We've got about four groups to post to, so as
long as you're within +/- 1 you should be OK.

Now, if someone posts a KISS article to alt.thrash, I'll
start to worry

A.P. Rodenhiser
Fellow KISSARMY@WKUVX1.BITNET subscriber
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: Doc vs Don (who's the biggest idiot) 
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:22:11 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

azrael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (AZRAEL-The Angel of Death) writes:

>     is:  did you see Meballada in the olden days when they 
>     really kicked ass live, and if you have how can you say anything
>     good about their live performances recently?
 
Ummm...no. I saw METALLICA in the old days (every show since they
opened for Ozzy in '85-'86) and the show I saw in Buffalo was very
intense. True, it was no comparison to older stuff, but what I'm
saying is that I'd rather pay $25-$35 to see one good band play
for four hours than $8 to see four marginally talented bands play
for 30-60 minutes each.
 
As for biggest idiot, I wote for Riki Rachtman, but that's an
obvious choice.
 
--Don

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Posers leave this newsgroup now!
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 10:29:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.053201.21057@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji) writes:
>This is it.  I'm not gonna take anymore of this poser shit.  L.A. Guns,
>Skid Row, Poison, Steel Heart, and Ugly Kid Joe are NOT metal.  Do you
>posers realize the fact that there is a newsgroup for that kind of crap?
>It's called alt.r-n-r.hard.on, and it was created by a few
>REAL metalheads like myself who were sick of putting up with all that
>glam stuff.  If you posers won't leave, I will have to destroy your
>beloved alt.r-n-r.hard.on.  Now use it or lose it!

Do you think that this is the right place for your articles? Although
I don't like of Skid Row, Poison, L.A. Guns etc. myself, and I don't
necessarily consider them as metal, I'd like more to see articles
about them here than your flame-only articles. There is only one
correct place for them, it is alt.flame (see follow-up). And, are you
sure that you're REAL metalhead? IMHO, flames don't belong in
metalhead. I'd like to see some articles from you about metal,
articles which don't contain flames.

and BTW, there are such things as kill files.
>
>Maple

Tapio

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: Sheri Mathos <Sheri_Mathos@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Alice In Chains
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 11:00:48 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Sorry about those last postings, been having major problems here! I am
looking
for any info on concert dates in the Michigan area.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: azrael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (AZRAEL-The Angel of Death)
Subject: Re: more on Dio
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:43:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.181413.9754@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>In article <Bu9rC5.ExF@acsu.buffalo.edu> v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz) writes:
>>After all this talk on Dio, I figure on asking even more info :)
>>A few years ago, I had heard of some sort of rock or metal opera that
>>Dio was singing on. I have no idea what it was called...maybe Tapio could
>>fill us in.  Is it any good?
>Hmm.... I've never heard of this kind of thing. Unless you mean Hear
>N' Aid project; Dio got some 40 metal singers / guitarists / drummers
>together and they made a single and an album. Do you mean this one?

    I have heard of this or something like it but hav had a miserable
 
    time trying to find it.  I think the title may be something like

    Butterfly Ball and had something to do with one of the members of 

    Kansas (kerry somebody or another).  If anyone can help in any way

    please post or email (I know very little about Kansas)

                                      azrael

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Future of this group.
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 23:05:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.214026.21499@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>I am sorry to say that these Ultra-organizational types seem to be using this 
>group for somewhat different purposes than others here. As for me, I use this
>to trade information, and indulge in light discussion about a music genre
>I love. I really don't care to review every new album I buy and submit all
>sorts of info about myself and my tastes. <I am trying unsuccessfully to avoid
>using the term "anal-retentive here.> Sorry guys.

I'm second to this. But, I'd really love to see a list which contains
this following information:
net@address, name or handle, 2-3 most favourite bands.

And nothing else. It would be nice to have - if you'd want to talk
about, lets say, Dio (:-)), with other Dio fans, it would be easy to
do "grep metallist Dio" and get all Dio fans' addresses.

But this is never going to work. As someone presented here, we have
about 41 000 readers (how many people have internet access?).
It won't never happen that all of them, even half or third of them
would let others know about them. And, I guess we all posters know
if there some other poster likes some certain band. 

><Perhaps a seperate, moderated group would be best for those folks?>

What about mailing lists? I'm rather sure that there is either mailing
list or even newsgroup for most favourite bands. What if someone
would compile a list of all metal-related mailing lists and posts that
information here?

><All IMHO>

same here...

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From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Rob out of JP for good? (was Re: Rob Halford dead???)
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:41:54 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Okay, he's definitely not dead, but is he out of Judas Priest?  That could be, according
to one of the local rock stations here.  I know I'll screw up the details, but
here's what the story goes something like this:
(The part I'm not clear on is which labels.)

Judas Priest's been with Columbia(?), and Rob was going to record with his new
band, Fight, on Sony.  Columbia didn't approve this, and there's a clause in
his contract that if he records on another label, it's considered breech of 
contract and he then cannot continue recording with JP.  The laywers for each
side are currently trying to work out a settlement.

According to the radio report, it's all over for JP.  Personnally, I'm sure an
agreement will be reached since it both sides would benefit from future recording,
and would likewise suffer from a restriction on future recording.  Just passing it
on though.
						-Tom
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: John Sykes, Blue Murder
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:51:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.141112.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>In article <3554@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:
>> In article <9SEP199215340464@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG) writes:
>>>
>>>Last I heard, Blue Murder has a new lead singer - Glenn Hughes, of 
>>>Trapeze - Deep Purple - Rainbow - Black Sabbath fame.  No word on when 
>>>new album is due.
>>
>> I would also imagine that Carmine Appice won't be playing drums since
>> he's with the new Sabbath line-up... I think.
>
>I'm glad to hear that Hughes is back.  I really like his voice, even
>though I didn't care much for what I heard from Blue Murder before.
>I think he also sang on John Norum's second solo album, which is either
>unreleased or Europe-only (the continent, not the band).
>
>As for Carmine, I don't know whether he's still with Blue Murder or not,
>but it is his younger brother Vinnie who is in Black Sabbath.
>
>--
>|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
>|     A man's best friends:  a Harely, a Beretta and a Gund.     |

Carmine started in the industry much earlier than his younger brother Vinnie.
He came out as a member of Vanilla Fudge in the late 60's, went to Cactus 
with Tim Bogert, and members of the Detroit Wheels, formed Beck, Bogert, and   
Appice, played on most of Rod Stewarts 70's hits <I believe you can see him
in the vid for "Hot Legs">, did some solo records, and bummed around assorted
sessions until the birth of "King Kobra". Blue Murder is pry the best thing
he has been involved in, in years, as a band project. 

As for Glenn Hughes, it should be excellent to hear his pipes again. He
wasn't used very well in Sabbath <if you consider "Seventh Star" to be a 
Sabbath album. It was originally Tony Iommi's solo project>, but thanks to
CD reissues, most of his work is now available. If only Tommy Bolin hadn't
died/been killed/whatever, they were supposed to form their own project.
That would have been truly interesting. I have heard that the Hughes/Thrall
project contained some of that material. <Pat Thrall was the 2nd guitarist
for Pat Travers in the later days, and played with a variety of Rock/Metal
/Fusion bnads in the 70's, most notably Automatic Man, and possibly Go. 
He also did a book on "How To Play Lead Guitar" that was the first book I
ever studied on the subject. Warped me forever!>
Whew!

					--Judex--
From: idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Ozzy and Motorhead
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:36:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


I was telling a friend that someone on this group posted an article
about Ozzy and Motorhead touring together.  She will be returning to 
the US soon and would like to know existing tour dates. 

Also does anyone know of any tour dates for the UK.

Ian
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