HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bar etiquette
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:22:23 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <thaaang.726197150@cwis>, thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John
Dorrance) wrote:
> 
> mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> 
> >charlie@isis.mit.edu (Charlie Fulton) *BLASPHEMES* :
> 
> Matthew, Matthew, Matthew. You *must* read more carefully.
> 
> >>Darts aren't better than pool because 1) you don't have to bend over
> 	   ^^^
> Mmm? MMM?

Le ooops.

*X*
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:18:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.032220.18182@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> But my dear, this would not be very good perfume.  $30/oz,
> 20 years ago, would have been only a medium-priced perfume.

Well, on reflection, it was probably more like 30 years ago than 20,
if that makes any difference. (And I'll bet it does; this puts it
before Vietnam-fueled inflation.)

> Nowadays, you can only get second-rate colognes for that.
> Good perfume is about, lemme see, $30,000 a gallon.

Hmm... $30,000/gallon = $6,000/fifth, or 8 times the price I quoted.
And people *pay* this?
From: akcs.kennedy@vpnet.chi.il.us (Edward A. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Why not cure homosexuality?
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:55:02 CST


In article <1993Jan6.203408.16833@netcom.com>, solovay@netcom.com (Andrew
Solovay) writes:
|In article <2b4a7e2e-4cd0.17soc.motss-1@vpnet.chi.il.us>
|akcs.kennedy@vpnet.chi.il.us (Edward A. Kennedy) writes:
|> 
|>The 12-step therapies seem to help people fight their urges 
|>toward homosexuality while the scream therapies seem to make 
|>those urges go away for ever.
|
|I'm assuming this was meant ironically. There are no smileys, but many
|people don't use them (myself among them); and besides, there's no
|*way* this post could be serious. Right?
 
No, no smileys because none were intended!  I am absolutely serious!
 
Go read the first few chapters of _The Primal Scream_.  It was a very
popular book back in the '70s so a library near you should have a copy.
The author's name was Art Janov.
 
I myself have had a form of therapy allows and encourages screaming
when the shoe fits, so to speak, and I have found a definate lessening
of my homophobia when I got through a few issues.  (The form that I
had was called "Holtrophic Breathwork" and was pioneered by Stan 
Groff of Esalon fame.)
 
Go figure.  I know it works.
 
-Ed
 

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: Travel Advice Needed - Tuscany
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:20:47 GMT

In article <C0Jw5r.LDw@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>
>
>Florence and Siena.  Driving.  He told me it was
>*beautiful* and the first week of June would be the
>perfect time to go.
>
Anytime is perfect in Tuscany except for ferragosto.

There is very little motss-oriented in Siena and only one club
(that *I* know of) in Florence (off the Piazza della Signoria).

However, you mention *driving* from Florence to Siena, Greg.
Let me discourage you; it's only about 6000 lire by train
(change at Empoli) and a little over an hour. Moreover, private
cars (save for police, taxis and delivery trucks) are not
permitted in the city walls. Please don't forget to visit
the enoteca at the Fortezza di Medici; it's the only place to
taste all the Brunello grown in Tuscany without visiting
every fattoria within 100 miles.

Buon viaggio!




-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543

"To eat, to love, to sing, and to digest; in truth, these are the four
acts in this opera bouffe that we call life, and which vanishes like 
bubbles in a bottle of champagne."     --Gioacchino Rossini



Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon)
Subject: Re: zw{i,a}cky matters
Summary: commentary
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:07:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.220411.17822@quantime.co.uk> roger@quantime.co.uk
(Roger Phillips) writes:

>> I'm amazed at the things I learn on the net.  Most of all that "th"
>> spelled backwards is "th."

>Is it a thorn in your flesh?

edth jutht an oversight -- he didn't really ash for this treatment.

-- 
Michael L. Siemon	"We honour founders of these starving cities
mls@panix.com		 Whose honour is the image of our sorrow ...
			 They built by rivers and at night the water
			 Running past the windows comforted their sorrow."
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:56:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan5.225600.25862
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

Will it sound like "I had no idea there were so many soap users here"
if I say "I had no idea there were so many cologne wearers here"?

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Marky Mark again
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:58:19 GMT


There is an article about his relationship to the gay community in the most recent issue
of the gay newspaper Fontiers.  It is pretty much what people have been saying in this
news group.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: john@drummond.demon.co.uk (John Fisher)
Subject: Re: Please, Guys, What do those Codes Mean!!!
Reply-To: john@drummond.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $
Organization: not
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:49:48 +0000

In article <1993Jan8.165958.12857@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:

> Poor Greggie, There isn't anything quite enticing as someone
> saying. "Oh my god, I hope you're a bottom, its so big I couldn't
> possibly take it, no really, I couldn't, it would kill me, I uh,
> oh *DON'T*, no, uhhh.  OOOOHH! You're killing me, <thrashing head and
> grasping hands> Oh my good you're all the way in, I can't believe
> you're all the way in, oh god you're fucking me with that big dick,
> etc. etc."

That's the trouble with some people, they just will *never*
shut the fuck up. 

Personally, I'd never have sex with a racing commentator. 

--John
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: taking over
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:38:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan6.223823.4306
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <17797@umd5.umd.edu> jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:
>I suggest that you begin responding strictly in the manner
>you suggest ["Response #4 + Corollary #12..."], but that
>it's a waste of time to write a CC-Rebuttal FAQ.

Just make citations to alt.games.mornington-cresent.motss
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/   Indifference, the plague that moves throughout this land
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [Daily Gopher] U of Minn may get gay studies program
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:58:22 GMT

=====Excerpt ========================
By Mary Mussell

Staff Reporter

The University will become the only Big Ten school with a gay and
lesbian studies program or department if a recommendation expected
Wednesday is adopted.
[...]

======End of Excerpt================

If you have access to the Internet program gopher, you can read the
whole article. Try
gopher -p"0/1993/Jan/Jan 12, 1993/GAY12.STO" joeboy.micro.umn.edu 71

The gopher bookmark is:

Name=GAY12.STO
Type=0
Port=71
Path=0/1993/Jan/Jan 12, 1993/GAY12.STO
Host=joeboy.micro.umn.edu

- Carl
-- 
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Seid umschlungen, Millionen.  Diesen Kuss der ganzen Welt!
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:12:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1993Jan11.144709.29450@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.060354.28964@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>>I just saw Tim Miller's latest performance work, sex/love/stories, at the 
>>wonderful Josie's Caberet and Juice Joint in San Francisco. 
>
>You're talking about _My Queer Body_, I guess.

Nope.  The new show is not "My Queer Body" -- it's called "sex/love/stories,"
as Jack said.
-- 
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                                                                   -- J. Foster
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: lsg001@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: Re: Bar etiquette
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:24:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.062520.3441@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>In article <1993Jan2.212719.23359@vpnet.chi.il.us> orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons) writes:
>[in answer to my question "how does one loiter in a bar without
>feeling self conscious about it?"]
>
>>Well, what I do is wander in with a copy of some railroad book or
>>literary magazine, sit down at a table or the end of the bar, and
>>start reading, drinking, and gently ogling.  When I finish the
>>magazine/book, run out of money, or get picked up, I leave :-)
>
>I suppose that would work.  But I've never seen a person with a book
>in a bar, and aren't most bars too dark anyway?


** If you are sitting there reading a copy of fly fishing by J R Hartley
   then you would stand absolutely no chance !


   
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Diet differences with your partner?
Date: 04 Jan 93 04:50:45 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

The mating of vegetarian and non-vegetarian -- I've seen this several
times in straight couples I've been close to and I've never seen a
problem. (BUT if it is a problem for someone else, it is a problem --
I've just never witnessed this particular one.)

However, I would submit that at least as much of a problem occurs when
one partner is trying to lose weight through exercise and controlling
his or her diet, and the other partner not only has never had a weight
problem is his or her life but actually has no concept of calories --
i.e., what foods a dieter needs to eat and the ones he or she does not
need to eat.

For example, Lyndol (aka Uncle Poopie) absolutely cannot get it into
his head that he is doing no favors when he brings home candy for me.
He can eat one or two pieces and put the box away for a week without
thinking about. I eat it until it's gone or I'm so sick I spend the
night making emergency trips to the crapper. The same goes for fatty
foods. He loves pork, for example, keeps bringing chops home for a
quickie dinner. Is it Lyndol's fault I'm fat -- no, of course not. Is
it even his responsibility to keep me on the straight and narrow -- no.
Is it irritating and frustrating and an all too handy excuse -- you
betcha.

Actually, I've improved his eating habits somewhat by my insistence on
chicken instead of red meat, by never letting him buy cheese, by
getting him to reduce the excessive fat and salt in his diet, and by
switching him over to turkey products in place of ham, pastrami, and
sausage (I know we're trading fat for salt -- but life's full of tough
choices, ain't it, as the Sea Witch told the Little Mermaid.

But, still, when we're on our way to movie, and stop at a convenience
store so he can get some movie candy and I say "don't get me any candy"
he will also buy extra for me and slip it to me during the movie. Yes,
discipline freaks, I could say no, but I don't.

I've been losing weight off and on for three years, a pound or two
month, and until a few months ago exercising regularly (why I stopped
is another story). So maybe I shouldn't bitch about Lyndol's lack of
diet savvy, but frankly anyone who's never had a weight problem really
toasts my crumpet. (As Roseanne Barr said in her original HBO special:
"I have one I want to say all you skinny women in the audience: Fuck
off!")

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bar Etiquette: Further digression
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:06:23 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <C0pLDA.45t@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:


>Ooohhh, babeeeee...it's 4:30 PM, I've almost caught up with the weekend
>crush of posts, I'm going to be here at work until 9 PM EST, and here's
>this _beastly_ person from Blue Devil country 

Beastly??! <Trying to work up a good snit>  Did I hear beastly?  Well, I
never...

>(I won't _even_ mention a score of 80-79 ;-) 

Now, let's not start that up again.  Remember, the seasons's barely
started.  You didn't think that Hurley, and the Hills were going to
go totally undefeated before running down to the NCAA for Three-Peat.
We thought we toss you guys one just to keep things interesting 
before March Madness kicks in.

>tawkin' 'bout bar-b-cue when I won't git suppa foe a good 5 hours.

Oh, you po' little ol' thing.  Why you're just skin and bones.  Here
now, we'll just fix you up with a big ol' helpin' of hush puppies and...
>Pork BBQ, warm cole slaw made with vinegar, garlic bread, and tea so 
>sweet and thick it could be mistaken for Karo dark syrup.  

Now, there now.  You have yoursef a pile of good eatin.

(Lord, I can't *believe* I'm talking like this.  My mind has definitely
 drifted southward.  Maybe it's that Carolina blue sky for days on end.)

Peace (you may return to your original non-silly programming)



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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Bar Etiquette: Further digression
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:54:05 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>How do these people live on this stuff?

>Poorly and not long.

Liar! When poured into molds and allowed to congeal, white gravy makes
excellent flooring material. It does tend to lack sheen, however.

--
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      You would be surprised at what resides in your insides.
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From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: crabs (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:09:34 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) wrote:
>Every time I've had a pet (dog,cat) inevitably fleas would come in the
>house (polished hardwood floors or not). collar wasn't a complete
>solution, but a pretty good one. Weekly, or monthly baths and house
>bombs occasionally were warranted.

The house has no carpeting (polished harwood floors and tile everywhere),
and little furniture with fabric.  So far this year there have been two
baths and two house-bombs, with the afore-mentioned precor.  I refuse
to cede the battle, but this is very annoying.

One reason I love my bunny is they don't get fleas.  If I could only train
her to stop eating wires, though.

ObMotss?  I don't know.  Maybe this should be in rec.pets?

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why not cure homosexuality?
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:14:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan6.221422.2686
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <2b4a7e2e-4cd0.17soc.motss-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> akcs.kennedy@vpnet.chi.il.us (Edward A. Kennedy, who hasn't changed a bit) writes:
>The 12-step therapies seem to help people fight their urges 
>toward homosexuality while the scream therapies seem to make 
>those urges go away for ever.

I saw this, while watching late night infomercials on TV:

Camera pans around small studio, showing small crowd of men and women
cheering and smiling. Camera centers on stage, and from behind the
curtain appears TOM SELLECK, arm in arm with world reknowned scream
therapist LYLA R. RYDER. A flashy logo tumbles across the screen:
"Shout away your weakness!"

Catchy theme music, upbeat, modern. TOM SELLECK leads the audience in
a joyful noise unto the camera. Millions of TV-land viewers to switch
away from Network 23 to watch the spectacle of "Shout away your
weakness! You can cure your deviant sexual orientation!" The latest in
infomercial technology, TV therapy.

As the din quiets down, more upbeat music comes on, and a barbershop
quartet sings:

Are you homosexual
Hate what it's about?
Now there's hope for you
You can shout it out!
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                                        All things are true
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Coors heir comes out
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:49:59 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <1993Jan10.223921.29661@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>Close to tears at one point, Coors said that in spite of the hardships
>gay people encounter, they "should just go on living".

Jeez... [reading between the lines] was this a mention of a suicide
attempt or at least thoughts of?  Just think if it was and he did
it... the world would never know of the pain and abuse that he had to
go through.  The book sounds like a bestseller (even if he doesn't get
a good ghost writer).  The '93s Rock Lobster!
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Musings on Madonna
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:52:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.055442.22154@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com
(Steve Dyer) writes:

>She's much trimmer (chubby describes her in _Borderline_), hardbodied,
>self-confident, and richer 10 years later.  I'd love to try the same
>experiment on myself!

Oh gone on!  You're hardboiled already!

<> Erotic is using a feather; kinky is using the whole chicken.
<> --(unknown)
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From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Changing standards of female beauty
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:43:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan4.204306.27757
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <C0C5Fy.9DD@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>Let's be fair here.  Some of us have skin which doesn't respond well
>to cold dry air, so in the winter we use moisturizing creams.

and some of us have been glad to find that the person we were with
used some sort of moisturizing substance, as it can double as a handy
lubricant.

feeling silly,
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/   You're free, so anything could happen, so happy birthday
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Soc.motss: The Color Version
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:58:49 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>In article <thaaang.726496087@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
>(John Dorrance) writes:

>>jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:

>>>Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu) wrote:
> 
>>>> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
> 
>>>> >Woah, I'm slow...
>>>>  ^^^^ 
>>>> Yup.  But cute.

>>(flatterer, I may have to fuck you...)

>Darn!  Well, I give in, then.  Your place or mine?

Let's meet halfway. Here, I'll get an atlas...

Okay. How does somewhere between Ames and Reinbeck, Iowa sound to you?

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