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From: MAILBOX@ZEUS.ICE.NL (Zeus Mailbox)
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Subject: Re: less broadcasts with ethernet II ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:58:11 GMT
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Original message:

> >I got a message from somebody on the pegasus-mail list which pointed out that
> >the 802.3 ethernet frame uses more broadcasts then the ethernet II frame.
> >Is this true in a netware 3.11 environment ??
> >My opinion was always that the frame-format was different but that this had
> >nothing to do with broadcasts.
> >Iam asking this question because, if this is true then I would go for
> >ethernet II to make my net a little bit more silent...

>     I'd check the mailer at the other end, because the mailed info finds
> no match in my <volitle> database of networking info. The operator maybe needs
> to be upgraded, or get a set of surrounding braces. Your predictor is still
> accurate. I've also heard that servers tend to crash mostly on odd numbered
> days of odd numbered weeks, particularly late on Fridays.
>     Joe D.

Mmmmm figures, I couldn't believe it neither.
The message on the pmail-updates list that concerned 'bout this topic was
about a guy who had to re-configure his charon gateway because his network
administers didn't like the 'broad-cast happy 802.3 frame', so that's where I
started wondering about my own common sense...

Thx.

Henno.



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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:26:59 -0500
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From:         "K. RAMJI" <ramji@UWOVAX.UWO.CA>
Subject:      Re: test

Got it!
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Ketan Ramji
Hearing Health Care Research Unit
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University of Western Ontario
LONDON, Ontario N6G 1H1, Canada

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:50:52 +0100
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From:         JAN@HSEPM1.HSE.NL
Subject:      A problem with an IBM Token-Ring ISA board

 hello fellow netters,

 i have recieved an ISA 16 bit high performance token-ring board 4/16 mbps
 We ordered this think because we are going to use i486 pc's in our network
 and the old 8 bit 4/16 ibm boards don't work in them. The pc's are ibm value
 point systems with an isa bus.
 The board has been tested on an ibm model 30 286 10mhz ps2 and works perfect
 but only on odi not with generated ipx.com (which is not possible since ibm
 didn't supply the neccessary files for this and they say the never will).

 but when placed in an ibm i486 value point it doesn't work.
 dxa0mod.sys says that it doesn't find the token-ring board. but lansup is not
 nessesary. Odi gives the same problem lsl  ver 2.0 works but tokenbm (shipped
 with the board) says problems. i tested all switch settings and only one
 worked. but then my novell performance is terrible slow (about 25 kb/s and i
 get 100 kb/s with my 8 bit boards in my model 30's).

 question: which one of the experts has any dealings with this board?

 answers are needed before we invest in these i486 vp.

 signed jan verhoeven  jan@hse.nl
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:51:34 GMT
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From:         ian goodwin <goodwin@INGRES.COM>
Subject:      Re: 2.15-Changing Supervisor P/W
              Jan 28, 93 1:23 pm

>
> Got a 2.15 server that has been dug out of a closet somewhere to which there i
 s
> "very important data" on, (when and why it became important was not made
> clear.)
>
> As you may have guessed, nothing exists by way of documentation for this
> server.  Can anyone point me to where I can get the detail on changing the
> supervisor's password on a 2.15 server.  I figure that since it can't be
> accessed now, any attempt on my part cannot cause too much harm.
>
> Thanks
>

I've done it before, about 12 mths ago, but my notes are at home.
Basically it envoles using DISKED, are you fimilar/happy to use it?

If so E-Mail me directly and I let you have details.



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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:07:08 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LWPD and Suns

>We are using LWPD to telnet into a Sun IPX workstation.  When you execute a
>command that produces a lot of output like a long directory listing the
>connection locks up.  When we ftp into the Sun and then try to get
>something the same thing happens.  We have had no such problems with a
>connection to an RS6000 from the DOS workstation.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Alan
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        Sure. The Sun is blasting frames at the PC faster than the PC
lan adapter can cope with. Such thing readily happen with slow boards,
the vintage 3C501 being the classical example. Also, if your lan adapter
uses shared memory a frequent omission is to not protect the full span
of memory from memory managers. Similarly, putting a lan adpater on an
IRQ line used by something else leads to major trouble. Some boards are
just peculiar, such as the 8-bit 3C503 going to sleep when the frame
rate gets high.
        Joe D.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:54:00 GMT
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From:         Sarah Finn x3043 - Maths Support Staff
              <FINNS@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK>
Subject:      Disappearing directory listings..

Hi all,
        I am wondering if someone on this list has had this problem (!):

I run stacker on my local hard disc of my machine which is also connected
to our NW3.11. I have installed STACKER in the usual way and no problems
during installation. Problems have started,though, to emerge. One of them
is that after running a standard application, I leave it and arrive back
at the dos prompt. I perform a DIR on a directory, and low and behold
my files that were there have disapeared. I execure NDIR on the same
directory, and they appear. I can execute files, my mappings have not
been altered, apart from not seeing the files, everything else is as
normal (!).
        Has anyone else had this experience, and if so, did you
solve it ?  If you can, please respond to me directly at the address
below.   Many thanks,

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:15:46 EST
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From:         Susan Cady <IRMCS013@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Wordperfect Access Denied Error

From: Susan Cady
I had some problems with one user getting this error message and after
checking all the rights, etc. I called WordPerfect. They told me to check the
users netx version. It seems shell versions 3.02/3.1 or earlier can cause
these occasional problems. I had the user update to the current (3.26) and he
has had no further problems.

Susan Cady
Smithsonian Institution
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:09:39 EST
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From:         NCUT000 <NCUT@SLUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      No Math - 486SX or 486DX

> Is there any reason to purchase a 486DX for a server
> if all we use are:
...stuff deleted....
> It's my understanding that if I'm not using mathematical computations muchm,
> I don't need a 486DX.  Would any of the above software counsel against
> a 486SX?
> Present setup: 386 server, 9 workstations, Novell 3.11
> Potential growth to: 50 or 100 workstations

Buy the DX! -  To oversimplify things a bit: 1) not much/no
applications perform processing at the server anyway so what you run at
the workstation doesn't really have alot of bearing on the servers
processor.  However, HOW the application at the workstation interacts
with the network can account for a significant load in terms of raw
traffic.   I've been led to believe that the DX just has more guts, vis
a vis it can process more "instructions" whether numbers or otherwise.

Am I lost here?  I really haven't spent that much time studying the
differences in the architectures.  'anybody got any interesting
insights here?

Nick


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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:33:00 PST
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From:         van@B857S1.SSC.AF.MIL
Subject:      test

I have sent several inquiries/replies to the conference but have never
received a reply back.  This is a test to both novell and novelerr to see
which one, if either makes it.

Sorry for the extra traffic this may cause.  If someone would PLEASE reply to
me via direct e-mail I would sure appreciate it.

My address is van@b857s1.ssc.af.mil

Kim
From: MAILBOX@ZEUS.ICE.NL (Zeus Mailbox)
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Subject: Re: What does SPEED rating really mean?
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:57:44 GMT
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> I am curious as to what the NetWare 3.11 console command SPEED really
 measures.
> I have a new 80486/50MHz server which has two switchable CPU speeds, 50MHz and
> 8MHz. The SPEED commands gives a rating of 118 at 8MHz and 1372 at 50MHz.
>
> I wondered what effect switching the server CPU speed would have on response
> times at my PC. I run Windows from the server so I measured the time to load
> Windows and various applications. Well, there was not an iota of difference in
> the times whatever the server CPU speed was set to. (eg. load Windows in
> standard mode = 17sec, load Windows in enhanced mode = 29 sec, load Excel =
> 20sec.). This made me wonder what difference server CPU speed does make, and
> whether it makes any difference at all to response times seen by a user.

The most important 'thing' in a 3.11 server is the combination:
-disk-subsystem
-NIC
-IO bus

If this is fast then you will not see any difference in changing the
cpu speed.
This ofcourse changes if you run hefty NLM's like:
-NFS
-Orcale NLM
-Sybase NLM


>
> Can anybody explain what the REAL relevance of the SPEED rating is (I know it
> is a combination of CPU speed/type and wait states), and whether switching
> server CPU speeds can have a noticeable effect on response times as seen by a
> user?

There is none. Its just a nice indication about the cpu speed of the
machine.
Under netware, a 386/20 with a fast scsi/ide disk can easily
outperform a 486/50 with a slow, old mfm disk.

Greetings...

Henno.




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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:50:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.com>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.COM>
Organization: PC-OHIO BBS - Cleveland, OH - 216-381-3320
Subject:      Re: Print Screen

JS>>         Is this caused by the fact that PrintScreen is a low level BIOS
JS>> routine and not a DOS level program?  It obviously gets around the
JS>> capture TSR?   I know there is a little utility (damn if I can remember th
JS>> name.) that will take a Print Screen command an dump it to a file (a name
JS>> you can select).  I'll try to dig it out and make it availible if possible

JS>I don't think it's a BIOS problem. Maybe I didn't explain what is
JS>happening very well. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. When it
JS>refuses to work I  have noticed that the user always has a job in the
JS>default print queue which just seems to be "adding"  forever. I assume this
JS>means that the "capture session" has not been closed off properly. I want
JS>to configure it so that the capture will immediately close off after each
JS>print screen. Incidently, all other printing is from Windows-based
JS>applications, thus I probably don't have to worry about capture affecting
JS>other apps. TIA

  Put a time out in your capture command or in the print job you are
using.  Also include a form feed to kick it out of the printer. (CAPTURE
TI=5 FF)

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:57:07 EDT
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From:         Lloyd <LPARK@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: bridge (not router) for IPX
              25 Jan 1993 14:33:03 EST from <RAY@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>

Try Karl Bridge from Ohio State University.  It can filter on packet
type (ipx, tcp/ip, apple, dec) and has a lot of other nice features.  It
requires a 286 and SMC (WD) ethernet cards.  You can get it from Nisca.acs.
ohio-state.edu (128.146.1.7).  I haven't used it myself, but I have talked
to others who are very happy with it.

Lloyd Park
Kent State University Library
Kent OH
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:52:00 PST
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From:         Michael_Kessler.Hum@MAILGATE.SFSU.EDU
Subject:      Solution to lockout

My thanks to all the replies re locked out of the network.  There are
essentially three solutions to the problem:

1. Load Edit at console to edit the sys:public\net$log.dat file and
eliminate the offending lines.

2. Use the Attach command (no need for a second server) and then use a text
editor to edit d:\public\net$log.dat (or whatever the first drive your net
uses) file of offending lines.

3. Use LOGIN /S with variations.  I tried some which did not work, but I
did not use all of the variations offered.

I am starting to feel that Novell is not just an unknown black box, but
this crisis learning is a little unnerving.

Michael_Kessler@HUM.SFSU.EDU
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From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Re: network numbering (of IP tunnels)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:20:39 GMT

In article <105362@netnews.upenn.edu> tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik) writes:
>Q: Should the IP tunnel be assigned a network number?

Yes.  If you don't specify a network number when binding IPX to an
IP protocol to create an IP tunnel, BIND will prompt for one.

>Q: If the IP tunnel must be assigned a network number, in the
>   above example, what should it be?  1234, 5678, 1, 2, or another
>   unique address?

A unique number.  Think of the IP tunnel as a private LAN with just
two machines on it.

>Q: How do you handle multiple (and maybe redundant) tunnels?

Give them all different network numbers.

The network number thing should be clearer if you know a bit about RIP,
though I still haven't seen a coherent explanation of the internal
network number.  Try reading Novell's IPX router documentation, from
ftp.novell.com.

(p.s. to Novell - can't you use Adobe's PostScript structuring conventions
so that this document will print out on less-than-humungous laser printers?)
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:09:53 EST
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From:         "Yoke, Charles" <CYOKE@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Gopher client for ODI

We have downloaded a copy of LWPGOPHER.EXE - a gopher client for ODI.
Unfortunately, there was no documentation available so we are not sure if
there are any configurable parameters either on the command line or in the
NET.CFG file.  If anyone knows about this client - or has information on
other ODI gopher clients - please respond to me directly.  Thanks in
advance for the help.

Chuck Yoke
Manager, Administrative Networks
West Virginia University
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From:         Karen Keys <kkeys@GALILEO.STMARYS-CA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Locked out of network

This may be too obvious to help, but can you "attach" to the server & get
rid of the system login script?

Plz post the fix when you get it. I'm always afraid of doing that, myself.

Karen
kkeys@galileo.stmarys-ca.edu
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From:         Andrew Mowbray <andrew@LEXSUN.LAW.UTS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Wallongong Request

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>I have a request of the group.

>We are moving into new (refurbished) facillities here on campus and we'll
>be usung NOVELL on a 100 user net.  We'll tie in with 486/sx machines using
>EtherNet cards to make connections with the newtork and campus mainfromes
>(VAX and IBM).

>Currently we use ISN Ports for mainframe links.  Now I told you that to ask
>you this.
>                WALLONGONG?

Hey, I hope you're not talking about Wollongong. Sorry, for the pedantry but
I was born there - nice place too.

Cheers, Andrew.

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From:         Steven Ploof <Steve.Ploof@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Etherlink III ? or other?

Folks,

We are considering the Etherlink III card for use.
The majority of workstations accessing the net are 386/486. Software
being used is NW 3.11, NSCA Telnet, Gopher, WAIS, and various
applications.  Are there suitable Drivers for this card?
Problems?  Other suggestions on which card to use?

Please provide comments about this card, or another suitable
ethernet card.  You may reply directly to me.

Thanks
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From:         Jameson Spence <jess@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      Re: Print Screen

On Fri, 22 Jan 1993, Kevin F. Speichts wrote:

>
>         Is this caused by the fact that PrintScreen is a low level BIOS
> routine and not a DOS level program?  It obviously gets around the
> capture TSR?   I know there is a little utility (damn if I can remember the
> name.) that will take a Print Screen command an dump it to a file (a name
> you can select).  I'll try to dig it out and make it availible if possible.

I don't think it's a BIOS problem. Maybe I didn't explain what is
happening very well. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. When it
refuses to work I  have noticed that the user always has a job in the
default print queue which just seems to be "adding"  forever. I assume this
means that the "capture session" has not been closed off properly. I want
to configure it so that the capture will immediately close off after each
print screen. Incidently, all other printing is from Windows-based
applications, thus I probably don't have to worry about capture affecting
other apps. TIA

....Jamie

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:37:00 MST
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From:         Rick <GARDNER@MC.BITNET>
Subject:      Data Compression NLM

Does anyone know of a server based data compression utility?

Sort of like a PKZIP.NLM???


Thanks.
Rick.
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