HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: ASIA:  the latest
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:30:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>I heard that the guitarist Vinny Burns from Dare (ex-Thin Lizzy keyboardist
>Darren Wharton's band) has joined Asia. Dare hasn't got a record contract
>anymore (previoulsy with A&M), but thy're continuing with a new guitarist.
>I don't remember the name of the new guy though.
>


    Speaking of Lizzy guitarists:  I'm sure you Lizzy-maniacs out there knew
that Scott Gorham did 1 of the songs on the 'Then' side of 'Now & Then'.  What
happened to Scott?  In my opinion, he's one of the greatest guitarist to ever
have been signed with a rock band.  Why didn't Scott sign with Asia?

-- 

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| You wanted the best;  You got the best! |     Paul Stanley, 1977
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Cedrick  Chan,  a lost demented soul
From: andreb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Andre Bergholz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Tori Amos info (+ more questions)
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:33:11 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

In article <BxA1x6.5o4@acsu.buffalo.edu>, mecca@acsu.buffalo.edu (Starkitty) writes:
|> hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt) writes:
|> 
|> >cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen) writes:
|> 
|> >People tell me that Tori Amos went to my junior high school, and
|> >indeed I remember an Ellen Amos who was quite a singer back then.  I
|> >wonder if anyone can confirm that she changed her name from Ellen.  If
|> >so, then since I'm about to turn 27 I'd reckon she's not as old as 29
|> >yet.  Perhaps I should dig out my old yearbooks...
|> 
|> A friend of mine who stayed after the show in Buffalo, NY (Friday Oct 16(17?)
|> said that Tori said her real name was Myra Ellen.  In the concert, she did
|> say she was 29 though

That's it. Her real name is Myra Ellen Amos and she was born on 
August 22nd 1963 (that means she is ...29).

Andre


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From: lehe@lulea.trab.se (Lennart Hedenstr|m)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Gary Moore recording recommendations
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:27:55 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 + PL4

I am a Gary Moore fanatic and have tried to stay out of this
debate since my views are very much biased since I am so
addicted to this man's music. I have just everything he has
ever done on record and even more.

My favorite album with Gary is Thin Lizzy's "Black Rose" album
from 1979. This has to do with me starting out as a Lizzy fan
and there and then I discovered Gary Moore. I like most of his
solo albums except for the "After The War" album. He obviously
got stuck in a rut there, and to me it was clear he had to take
a turn music wise. He had done it before so it was not such a
big surprise to me after all that he turned to the blues. That's
really what he started out with in Skid Row.

As someone pointed out earlier I guess he had to follow up the
success (at least in Europe) of "Still Got The Blues" with
another blues album. "After Hours" has to my knowledge not been
as successful as its predecessor. So I guess the new live (blues)
album is just a way to buy time. My hope is that he will take a
new turn. I am sure he will never make another heavy metal/hard
rock album. He said in interviews that he felt ridiculous at his
age to play heavy metal for kids. I guess he felt he could retire
with the blues, since there is no "age limit" there. You never
know with Gary what to expect the next time. The only certain
thing is, whatever he will record the next time, it will be
packed with good guitar playing.

--
===================>LENNART HEDENSTROM<==========================
		Lennart.Hedenstrom@lulea.trab.se
 Collector of records and live tapes with Gary Moore & Thin Lizzy. 
 I'm willing to trade. Interested? --> e-mail right away !!!
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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: Battle of Evermore Reply: History of Sandy Denny
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:36:05 GMT

In article <27834@castle.ed.ac.uk> cir@festival.ed.ac.uk (C Revie) writes:
>
>The woman singing on Battle of Evermore is the late great Sandy Denny.
>Possibly the best UK female folk singer of the past twenty years.

You'll get no argument from me.

>Sandy was also a member of the UK progressive-folk group the Strawbs in
>the late 60's for six months, before moving onto to join the seminal
>folk-rock group Fairport Convention, who she was with between, 1968 and
>1970, and 1974 to 1976. 

I think that's actually part of their name now:  The Seminal Folk-Rock
Group Fairport Convention :-)

>She is to be found on the following albums:
>
>Unhalfbricking (1968)
>What we did on our Holidays (1968)
>Liege and Lief (1969) THE English folk-rock album
>Fairport Live Convention (1974) Also called a Moveable feast in the States
>Rising for the Moon (1975)

Also "Heyday" (1969, but only issued in the late eighties), a collection 
of (mostly) cover tunes from the likes of Dylan, Johnny Cash, Gene Clark, 
The Everly Brothers, and Joni Mitchell.

There are also the few odd solo Sandy tracks that show up on other
peoples' albums, like the version of "The Ballad of Easy Rider"
that shows up on Richard Thompson's compilation album "Guitar and
Vocals."  

>In 1969 she left Fairport form Fotheringay (one album Fotheringay 1969),
>with among others Jerry Donohue from the USA.
>
>She also recorded several solo albums
>Sandy
>North Star Grassman and the Ravens
>Rendevous
>and one other which I can't remember off the top of my head.
>All now available on Rykodisc in the US. There is also a box set of rare
>and previously unreleased material available on Rykodisc, which is
>highly recommended.

I found the box set ("Who Knows Where the Time Goes") to be a little
spotty, but nevertheless very worthwhile.  There's also a "Best of ..." 
CD that's a little short on the Fairport Convention material, but still 
a great introduction to Sandy's wonderful voice and music.

>Sandy is also to be found on
>The early Sandy Denny
>Sandy and Strawbs.

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
att!cblpn!ajw  or
ajw@cblpn.att.com
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Subject: LISTERMINT COMMERICAL
From: cvalj001@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Daemon Hobbs)
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:55:33 PST
Organization: Cal Poly Geography
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadr021



     Has anyone seen the Listermint commerical where the bottle swings through
the jungle and over a lake?  Who does the song in the background?  It sounds
very familiar but none of us here can place it.  Is it just a song written for
the commerical or did some one already do it?   If you know, please E-MAIL me
as I don't read this group often.   And please be quick, it's driving us crazy.

-- 
---
Daemon E. Hobbs, Cadet, AFROTC
Senior, (Carto/RS/GIS) 
Cal Poly Pomona Geography Dept.
Email: cvalj001@csupomona.edu
Phone: 714-869-3590
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: sammy@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Samuel Larson UCLA Astronomy)
Subject: Re: Wanted to buy: Devo _Oh_No,It's_Devo_ 
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:59:23 PST

Oh No is available on CD only as a Japanese import.  Expect to pay
around $25.  All of Devo's albums are on CD in Japan, even the Devo Live
EP.

sammy

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From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens)
Subject: Re: Chaka/Peter Cetera
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:15:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.193606.8774@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
>Hey,
>
>Maybe this wont be the right newsgroup for this particular question, but I just
>read the adult contemporary charts and they have a new song from Chaka Khan and
>Peter Cetera...Has anyone heard this?? Judging from the fact that it is with
>that Cetera person, Im pretty sure it'll be on the pop tip(I have when Fonky
>Divas do that)...anyway, was just curious if anyone heard it...
>
>                                                     RJ


	YOUR ARE RIGHT, THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT NEWSGROUP!

[amazed at how people can type a message yet have not reached the ability to
                                read...]
Alex
stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: owen@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: YAWHT (Yet Another Whatever Happened To ...)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:02:57 GMT

I used to have a couple of albums (names long since forgotten) by
McKendree Spring.  Not much in the way of biographical info on the
covers/liners so, although I *really* liked these guys, I knew nothing
about them.  Who were they, where were they from, how long did they
last, etc?  And, have any of them ever done anything interesting since?

By the way, there was a thread a few months ago about songs that mention
other bands.  On Pure Prairie League's first(?) album, there's a song
called "You're Between Me" with the lines:
	Sittin' on McKenzie River
	Listenin' to McKendree Spring
	(They're so goddamn good)
	Tryin' to get into Heaven
	Trying to get into almost everything

Larry Owen


Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: bjornl@sics.se (Bj|rn Lisper)
Subject: Re: Why never a followup to "Chess"?
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:28:23 GMT

In article <leo.720997093@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) writes:
>In 1984 the album "Chess" was released, the 'soundtrack' from a
>soon-to-be musical written by Bjorn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson (from
>Abba) and Tim Rice (from "Evita" & "Jesus Christ Superstar").
....
>So, with all the critical and commercial success of "Chess", and with
>the writing partnership going so well, my question is: why has there
>been no follow-up to "Chess" for the last *eight* *years*?
....
>I don't think any of the three has ever been involved in another new
>Musical project in all those eight years. So let me end this article
>by repeating my main question loudly:

>			WHY NOT?????

>Any info, rumours, gossip appreciated...

Benny Andersson has done at least one thing during these years: namely a
solo album called "November 1989". Actually I think it is quite good (note
that I've never been an ABBA or Chess fan): he seems to have done this album
without feeling any "commercial" pressure, and it contains a quite varied
assortment of music ranging from folk music meets electric guitars to quite
orchestral pieces. Some of the music is scores that he made for the Swedish
TV series "malarskolan" ("the art school").

Bjorn Lisper
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From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Sandy Denny
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 13 NOV 92 08:58:30    


In article <BxnJ2w.DMr@gabriel.keele.ac.uk>, gerry@keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) writes...
>What happenned to Trevor Lucas? Is he dead? If so what from. I have a
>60 min tape of a BBC Radio (1988) show, called WKWTTG about Denny, and Lucas 
>is refered to - on the WKWTTG box set it says "In Memorium Trevor Lucas".

He died in Australia shortly after the Denny box was finished.  I never heard
what of.  Talk about bad karma...

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Subject: Re: Ministry's Older Stuff
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:04:10 GMT

In article <92309.224744DRM123@psuvm.psu.edu> DRM123@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>1)The Mind Is A Terrible thing to Taste
>2)Land of Rape and Honey
>Don't buy the others!! They are BAD and were disowned by Jourgenson!!
>In short, they are a BIG WASTE OF MONEY.
>The first two,however,are definitely worth buying.

Well, the two you listed are indeed the ones to buy if one is a fan of 
_Psalm_69_, though I rank _Land_ much higher than _Mind_ myself. As for the
others, the only one "disowned" by AJ was _Sympathy_. _Twitch_ and _Twelve_
_Inch_Singles_ are still brilliant records, though not in the _Land_Mind_Psalm_
area of music. He'd be stupid to disown _Twitch_, it is one of the acknowledged
industrial-dance forefathers.

_Twitch_ ends with a song that sounds similar to "Grace," BTW.

-- 
					- Adam J Weitzman
					  weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
"All our life is spent in this permanent brainwashed contempt."
	- Meat Beat Manifesto
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: I Can't Get No...
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:46:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Nov8.114748.6227@gw.wmich.edu> 739chan1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>  So, which is right? "..reaction" or "..with action"?
*I* always thought it was "girly action."  but in retrospect, it sounds
like "reaction."

-- 
( dave prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu or prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu )
( "silence means security.  silence means approval."                     )
(  - r.e.m., "begin the begin"                                           )
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.cd
From: stud7b43@bmerh925.bnr.ca (Elaine Bushnik)
Subject: Re: Eurithmics Title
Reply-To: newuser@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:48:44 GMT


In article <1dufdgINN8ib@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
aa765@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Young) writes:
|> 
|> Previously, jhh4889@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.H. Huebner) sayed:
|> 
|> >What was the title of the song that had the line:
|> >"I want to dive into your world, is it raining with you?"
|> >
|> >I was reminded of it by the new "Walking on broken glass"
|> 
|>      "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of These)".
|> 
|>      Cool tune, awesome lady...
	
	Actually, I think the line was:
	"I want to dive into your _ocean_, is it raining with you?"
	and I believe the song is "Here Comes the Rain Again"

	Another cool tune...

|> -- 
|>                                              - C Young
	Mike.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: manitp@vccsouth25.its.rpi.edu (Philip Joseph Manitta Jr.)
Subject: Toto Stuff!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:38:36 GMT

How did Jeff Porcaro die?  And does anybody have any clue when/if
"Kingdom of Desire" will be released  in the USA? And why hasn't it
been released here yet??

Also- someone mentioned that they wanted a TOTO discography;   

here it is:

1977 -  TOTO  included Hold_the_Line, I'll_Supply_the_Love, and
Georgy_Porgy

(Release date may have actually been 1978, but many of the songs are
copyrighted '77)

1979 -  HYDRA included 99

1980 -  TURN BACK  included no hits

1982 -  TOTO IV  inlcuded Rossanna, Africa, I_Won't_Hold_You_Back, and
Make_Believe

1985 -  ISOLATION included  Stranger_in_Town

1986 -  FARENHEIT included  I'll_Be_Over_You and Without_Your_love

1988 -  THE SEVENTH ONE included Pamela, Anna, and Stop_Loving_You

1990 -  PAST TO PRESENT 1977-1990 (greatest hits)  included:

			Hold the Line, Georgy Porgy, 99, Rossanna,

			Africa, I Won't Hold You Back, 

			I'll Be Over You, Pamela, and Stop Loving You,

		Plus 4 new songs:

			Love has the Power

			Out of Love

			Can You Hear What I'm Saying

			Animal

MEMBERSHIP:

	TOTO-TOTO IV;

		Steve Lukather; Guitar/vox

		David Paich; keys/vox

		Jeff Porcaro; drums

		Steve Porcaro; Keys/vox

		Bobby Kimball; vox

		David Hungate; bass

	ISOLATION;

		Dennis "Fergie" Frederikson replaces Bobby Kimball

		Mike Porcaro replaced David Hungate

	FARENHEIT;

		Joseph Williams replaced Fergie

	THE SEVENTH ONE;

		Steve Porcaro "Officially" left the band

		(but was just as much a member as always)

	PAST TO PRESENT;

		Jean-michel Byron replaced Joseph Williams

So who plays on "Kingdom"?  And would somebody post a review PLEASE!

-- 
Philip J. "Ralph" Manitta Jr. (RLF)     _|_       " For me to live is
88 14th st.                              |        Christ, to die is
Troy NY, 12180                           |        gain!"   (manitp@rpi.edu) 
" Don't even think of copying this! The band NEEDS money! " -Fluffy
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: omitchel@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ocie *crow* Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore & Steely Dan?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:49:45 GMT

In article <Bx947y.Mx9@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
>
>I saw a piece on CBS Evening News yesterday that talked about what's 
>in and out with Clinton becoming Prez.  They said "Lee Greenwood is out,
>Steely Dan is in".  Is Clinton and/or Gore a SteelyHead?
That would make addresses more interesting, just imagine a Steely Dan version
of "Hail to the chief".  I think it would go something like this
Hail to the man,
the man with the plan.
he's the prez, he's Bill Clinton,
And we're Steely Dan

BTW, did anyone notice that they were playing "Don't stop thinking about 
tomorrow" by the Eagles after Clinton's victory speech?

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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: Note frequencies.
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:33:35 GMT

omitchel@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ocie *crow* Mitchell) writes:

>In article <1dgd7uINNlbd@oak6.doc.ic.ac.uk> adm2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Alan David Messer) writes:
>>
>>	Can anyone out there help me. For my project I need to know the 
>>frequencies or wavelengths of each note in each octave e.g C1,C#1,.,G3,...etc.
>>
>        semitone/12
>f=Base*2

>so if you use A=440 Hz (the american standard) then Base=440.  You then just
>have to put the number of semitones + for higher, - for lower.  so to get
>the G just below A440, use semitone=-2.  Hope this helps,

And of course you only need to do this tedious 12th-root-of-2 trick for
one complete octave. Once you got the freqs of one octave, the other octaves
can be calculated by dividing/multiplying by 2 (i.e. fill in 12 for 'semitone'
in the above formula :)

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: wang@ibma6.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Wang)
Subject: How Celene, Whitney react to breaking up
Reply-To: wang@sml0.ge.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:48:10 GMT

In my totally subjective evaluation of current pop music, three female
vocalists stand out above all the others as having the "purest" musical
voices, in terms of depth, timbre, control, ability to spontaneously
toss off mordants, turns, and other embellishments, and ability to
convey, and *elicit*, emotion.  Curiously, two of them are now on the
charts with songs about the breaking-up of a personal relationship.
Ironically, they happen to express totally opposite points of view.  One
of them sings:

    I don't miss your kiss like before now
    any more now
    ...
    and all those nights we shared together
    well they don't mean a thing

In marked contrast, the second one's reaction is:
                                                           o o
                                                          o o o
                                                          o   o
                I                           loooove       o   o
    and IIIIIIII I wiiiiiiiiill       aaays         yoooooo   oo
                                aaaalwa

:-)

I suppose they're just songs, and we shouldn't try to read too much into
them.  But the first song gives the impression of a tough, independent
woman who is trying to cut her losses and get on with her life, while
the second one evokes the image of a generous and caring person who,
even in a moment of great personal pain, has the grace (and maturity?)
to wish well to the person whose leaving is causing her the pain.  I
dunno which of the two images I prefer; I see merit in both of them.
The first song seems to say, "I want to be happy, and if I can't be
happy with you, I'll learn to be happy without you".  This feels like a
very 90s message -- relationships don't always work, each individual
must take responsibility to achieve his or her own happiness, so must
find the strength to make tough decisions and clean separations.  I
admire the assertiveness and mental toughness of this attitude.  In
contrast, the second song says (nearly verbatim, in fact), "I want *you*
to be happy, and if you can't be happy with me, I hope you can be happy
somewhere else".  Here, I admire the nobility and unselfishness, the
ability of the singer to compartmentalize her personal pain and not let
it interfere with her goodwill toward the person who is leaving.  Which
set of characteristics do I admire more?  I can't really say.  But
certainly the latter singer sounds more vulnerable and (dare I say it)
huggable.

The third one is on record with the rather more introspective and
self-directed

    couldn't see that I
    was blind
    to let you go

but this is somewhat dated, and I haven't heard anything from her
recently.  :-)

Just my observations, plus some half-in-jest reasoning.

Eric Wang
wang@sml0.ge.uiuc.edu




Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Two new Genesis albums
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:49:09 GMT

I just read in Billboard that there are to be two live Genesis albums coming 
out. The first will come out soon, and focuses on their shorter poppy
(hit) stuff. Not too interesting. But the second, which comes out
in January, will supposedly focus on longer, more progressive material.
Or so the article lead one to believe. Does anyone know what will
actually be on the second volume?

Incidentally, the article mentioned that the album focusing on the
longer stuff will be issued at a bargain price, whereas the album
featuring the poppy stuff would be full price. Interesting.

dap
-- 
=============================================================================
    David A. Pearlman

Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com
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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: BEST VIDEO OF ALL TIME POLL
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:21:14 GMT

Peter Gabriel's videos are kinda good (Sledgehammer) and even though you may
not like him or his music, you gotta admit that Michael Jackson's Black or
White had some great special effects...

                                        RJ