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From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sanyo 14MHz chips
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:40:03 GMT
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Jul30.055515.8371@cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes:
>I just wanted to let everyone know that the Sanyo 65816's work..and they're
>nice to boot! Anyways, using a circa-1989 TWGS upgraded to 32k cache w/ 35ns
>Ram chips, I simply plugged in a Sanyo '816 chip and a 55Mhz crystal giving
>my GS an effective clock rate of about 13.75 MHz...man, is it cool!! I've had
>no problems with it, but it should have been impossible, as the gate arrays
>on the TWGS are rated at 12.5 MHz....so much for specs. But then, I don't
>think anyone else was able to get reliable operation past 12 MHz....maybe
>I'm just plain lucky (which is what they all called me at KFest!) Now to
>upgrade to 25ns cache Ram and see if 15Mhz will work!

	Yeah, my Sanyo 65C816 is working too... I just ordered 5 more
for some friends.

	Currently, I'm running it at 12mhz, 13.75 works, but I can't
put my cover on.  I have a TWGS with the 32k cache upgrade.

	The only problem I seem to have is with ProTERM v3.0.  It seem
PT 3 doesn't like my extra-accelerated GS...  If anybody has a clue,
let me know, I'd really like to get PT3 working, but for now it's
Telcomm...  :)



Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
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Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: a195722%etd.decnet@MDCGWY.MDC.COM ("ETD::A195722")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: E-Mail Address of St. Louis Apple Marketing Center
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Could you please supply me with the internet address of the St. Louis Apple
Marketing Center.  One of the Apple's representatives at the office is Sam
Wood.  I have his internet address as wood7@apple.com.  When I sent something
to this address I got an addressee unknown response.  What is his correct
internet address.

Dan Dassow
From: jcitro@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU (Joe Citro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Graphicwriter III
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:03:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


 ____________________________________________________________________A friend of mine posted the following question to our local Apple II BBS.  I couldn't answer the question.  Can anyone on the net answer it???>Sub  ->GWIII Question                                                       > Date ->Mon. Jul 27, 1992 at 09:35:24 PM>Do you know?  Is there a limit to the number of fonts that can be put into>your System/Fonts folder when using GraphicWriter III?
(57 files counting all the >different point sizes) in my system folder.  I have about 100 other fonts >(360 files counting  different sizes) that I keep in another folder for use >with AW SuperFonts.  Just as an experiment, I placed __ALL__ of the fonts in >my System/Fonts folder.  I wanted them all to be accessible to GWIII.>Anyway, here's my problem.  After placing all 360 files in my System/Fonts>folder, I rebooted and launched GWIII.  I then "pulled-down" the Font Me!
nu >and clicked on "Choose Font".
From: Phillips@peaches.ph.utexas.edu (Perry Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: C programing GS
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:49:40 GMT
Organization: FRC Univ. of Texas
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1b3

Does anyone have a recomendation for Books on programing a GS in C
(Orca). My son is learning to program and wants create a desktop
application (not in the shell). He needs some help in doing this work.
Any recomendation? Thanks.

Perry Phillips
Fusion Research Center Univ. of Texas
phillips@peaches.ph.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: memory on the GS (was:Re: multi-tasking GNO)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:47:01 GMT

In article <14g9keINN85s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu) writes:
>
>
>	Hey, people that got the Apple Memory Card are lucky.. (after Apple
>realized their grave error).  Living with just 256K on a GS for a long time 
>is a pain. (Tass Times in ToneTown is the only 'major' GS specific program
>that works in 256K that I can think of).

And Silent Service...which was why I bought it (I couldn't be convinced that
>256k was necessary for a long time...after all, my //c had only had 128k!).
There were a couple of others, too...Silent Service was probably the best,
though.


-- 
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toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Your god drinks...P-P-Peach nectar!"
                        '
From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Prosel not quite perfect
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I recently had an annoying (fortunately not disastrous) problem with a
hard drive partition that Prosel was unable to fix and wondered if there
would have been some other way of dealing with it.  I'm not quite sure
how it happened, but somehow what I think was a small part of the
partition table of contents (or whatever it's called) got damaged.  None
of the GS/OS or Prodos file systems would recognize the partition's name
or format.  Some of Prosel's utilities did recognize it, some did not
(for instance, it did not show up on the prefix/volume list at all, but
did show up as a device on the device list.)  The prosel volume repair
utility *DID* know what the partition's name was and reported only two
classes of errors:  wrong length on the partition's main entry and a 150
or so unused blocks.  I didn't have it fix the unsused blocks, but did
have it correct the length.  It did so and reported no directory
structure errors when I tried again.  It seemed pretty clear it was
walking the whole directory tree that I thought was there, since it took
as long as it usually did.  But, to no avail; even after forcing prosel
to try a main directory repair (with which it seemed to have no trouble,
finding no errors to correct) nothing, including other parts of prosel,
was able to recognize the partition as a readable prodos volume.
Ultimately I ended up reformatting it and reloading it from backup.
Luckily it was the partition on which I have all my software, so even
though it had been longer since my last backup than it ought to have
been, nothing terribly unrecoverable was lost (mostly GS/OS version 6,
which I'll get around to reinstalling when I have time.)  Is there
anything around that would have allowed me to patch up what I suspect
was a very small error in the boot block or partition table of contents
without forcing a reformat?  (Whatever there is that records the
separate partitions was OK -- my other two partitions, mercifully, were
just fine; somehow this one lost whatever it is that allows GS/OS-ProDos
to recognize it, even though enough was left that Prosel seemed to be
able to walk the directory tree just fine.)

TMPLee@dockmaster.ncsc.mil

p.s.  -- I suspect one of two causes for the error (a) I discovered the
fan inlet on the hard drive was blocked by dust; no errors since that
was taken care of , or (b) I got frustrated when an application program
appeared to get into a loop and hit reset at exactly the wrong time (or
a combination of the above.)
From: mock@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Kenrick J Mock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Columns for the //e?
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:41:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In some article foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle) writes:

>
>Also, although still a ways from release, I have been working on both a //gs
>and an IBM VGA version of Columns.  Although I've seen Shareware versions of
>Columns on both machines, I don't think the little square blocks can compare, 
>and the two player game blows 'em away!  So look for those sometime in the 
>not too distant future!
>

I agree that the IBM (or MAC) versions of Columns are not very impressive.
However, for the GS there are several versions of Columns:

   Columns GS v0.5, 1.0, 2.0
   Fun Columns and Columns Desk Accessory by the FTA

Columns 0.5 had no graphics...version 1.0 has simple graphics... but 
version 2.0 has music and user-configurable blocks; some people have 
made some quite interesting blocks, ranging from letters to jewels to
various traffic signs!  So, IMO, the blocks were quite nice and with a
lot of potential for the users to futz around with.

A two player version does sound like fun.


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From: danw@mitchell.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dan White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PostScript font downloader
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:58:29 GMT
Organization: Society for the Prevention of Paronomastic Defenestration

In article <30JUL199202303383@utkvx4.utk.edu>, jcooper@utkvx4.utk.edu (Jonathan Cooper) writes:
|> In article <9207291356.aa12517@generic.UUCP>, taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao) writes...
|> > 
|> >    If I have a Macintosh PostScript font file on an HFS disk, is there
|> >any way to download the font to a LaserWriter IINT printer?  The TrueType
|> >disks in our user group's disk library are part of the Macintosh section
|> >so they also contain the Adobe Type 1 font file along with the AFM file
|> >and TrueType/bitmaps suitcase.  The System 6.0 LaserWriter driver does not
|> >seem to automatically download fonts to the printer.
|> 
|> hmmm...  there seems to be a rash of non apple 2 postings going on lately.  i
|> certainly hope nobody considers anything as _stupid_ as trying to moderate
|> _this_ group.  of course, it would also be nice if people would place articles
|> in the appropriate news groups.
|> 

   (FLAME ON) It would be nice if folks payed attention to what was being asked for.
The orininator of this thread is wanting a means for a GS (YES, THAT'S APPLE II) to
load a non-resident font into a LaserWriter.  We all know Mac's can do it.
   (FLAME OFF)

   I can cheq with my user group (Washington Apple Pi) and see if such exists.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:44:15 GMT

gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) writes:

: Articles posted ONLY to comp.sys.apple2 regarding the moderation of
: comp.binaries.apple2, by the Guidelines, do NOT count.  Only what
: appears in news.groups is recognized discussion.  Crossposted items are
: fine.  These are not my rules, it is just the way it is.

Oh give me a break Greg!  These might not be your rules, but why can't
something posted to csa2 at least be considered by the reader?  It doesn't
have to be official for someone to actually think about it...I don't care
where the discussion is supposed to take place, but ideas are ideas, and
there's no need to just discount them as valid points because they're not
in the "right" (and I think they are) place!  If Tero really cared, I would
think the effort should expand _all_ places where this happens to be
discussed, and disccussion really shouldn't be so limited and constricting.
Your point discusts me...

: I know of some people who will not get involved with any binaries group
: unless it is moderated.  

And I call these people babies...

: >The real question is why do we -need- moderation. The answer is that we do
: >not -need- moderation. It would prevent a few annoyances, at a cost which
: >will exceed the value of the few benefits.

: Annoyances which still continue, even at the peak of the discussion
: period on moderation.  Many people, when they first join USENET, have
: groups presented to them in alphabetical order.  "binaries" comes before
: "sys".

Regardless, they're just annoyances, and when you consider the __possible__
fallout from moderation, these annonyances are acceptable..._TO ME_

: >Rich
: >payner@netcom.com

: That reminds me, I need to send the 3rd RFD today!

Joy...

: -- gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
Amrit
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: goodman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Marc Goodman)
Subject: Re: Bilestoad
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:44:36 GMT

ejohnson@sparc3.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric E Johnson) writes:
>When I talked with Marc via email, he said that there were only about
>1600 copies sold.  But, I would be willing to bet that there were over
>20,000 copies out there.  I know, I had one of them.  I felt so guilty
>about it, that I sent him a check for pirating the game.  I suggest
>others do the same.  

I agree :).  The address is:
Marc Goodman
12 Hammond St.
Waltham, MA 02154

>>As for the maps, unless they were published in the manual (which I rather
>>doubt), then they are the creations of whomever compiled them, and they
>>do have the right to post them. What good are the maps without the game?

The maps weren't published in the manual.  If people want to
distribute the maps, that would be OK with me.  My only problem with
this is that the balance of the game depends on actually learning
where the various disks are located, and if you have a set of maps to
start with, that makes it too easy.

Other stuff: I'm considering sharewareing The Bilestoad.  I haven't
decided positively yet, because I need to make sure my rights in the
new version aren't compromised.  Also, frankly, the old version looks
kind of crusty and dinosaur-like to me.  In still other news, it looks
like I'm probably going to have to take Softdisk to court to get any
money out of them.  My position looks pretty clear though, my contract
with Datamost was pretty specific about the rights reverting to me
before they ``sold'' the rights to Softdisk...

For all you aspiring game writers out there, register your copyrights.
It turns out that if a copyright isn't registered, you can sue for
damages, but that's it.  If a copyright is registered, however, you
can sue for damages PLUS statuatory damages (which could be as much as
10-20K), PLUS legal fees...  And no, the copyright on The Bilestoad
was never registered *sigh*.

-Marc
From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Text Art
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:48:09 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Folks, this will probably be the weirdest request I could make, but I really
suck at making text art drawings.  I need someone to help me put together some
nice looking text artful menus.  If you're willing to spend some time doing
this for me, I'd really appreciate it if you can contact me.

I am writing a file system for a BBS and one of the main goals is to make
the user interface as simple as possible.  I need it to look good too, and
right now, I'm making it terminal independant.  Later, I may implement PTSE
where making good menus would be easier, but all I have are plain old ASCII
characters to work with.

After seeing some of the sigs out here, I know there are quite few of you who
can do some GREAT text art things..and this is nothing TOO fancy...all you have
to do is make a menu with about 34 items on it look good.  Mail me for more
details...I really would appreciate it if someone out there can help me out.

Thanks.

Amrit
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: The Perennial Piracy Debate (was Re: Bilestoad)
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:20:15 GMT

In article <bazyar.712470809@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

[ ]
>
>  I see. Apple killed the II with System 6.0.  They killed the II with
>the Ethernet card.  They killed the II with the incredible, source-level
>developer support from DTS.  That doesn't fly.  Developers left the II
>for one reason: they couldn't make enough money on it.  Now, whether
>"enough money" means > $10M or not even enough to cover development,
>piracy is a big part of this problem.  DreamGrafix and Pick'n'Pile are
>being sold, illegally, in France.  By ex-members of the FTA and Toolbox.
>These people are almost universally worshipped here in the states, but
>they're hardcore pirates and just as responsible as Apple (along with all
>the other pirates) for developers leaving the II.  When new software is
>distributed across the nation in two days, thousands upon thousands of
>illegal copies, then there's a problem that needs to be addressed.
>  Apple is at this point giving third party developers the opportunity
>to take over the IIgs, in spirit if not in name or in new hardware.
>That's awfully hard to do with pirates running around all over the place.
>Let me give you an example.  I went to a user's group meeting in
>Champaign, Illinois.  Someone there asked if they could make a photocopy
>of the AppleWorks 3.0 manual, since theirs was "slightly warm".  It's
>this kind of nonchalance, this kind of "well, piracy is bad, but it's
>okay _sometimes_" that upsets me.  Piracy is _never_ okay. 

The GS has the opportunity of truly becoming the only real personal 
computer around. The basics are all in place. The hardware needs updating,
but should the Avatar come to pass then things could be most interesting.

What is Pick'n'Pile?

Many months ago I dared say something semi-negative re FTA et al, and my 
mailbox was flooded with idiotic messages for weeks. Hope you have a thicker
skin.

Piracy will stop on the GS once people realize (1) if it continues, noone
will write for the GS and (2) people have to feel secure that they are
purchasing software from developers who will stand behind their product.

As for AppleWorks3.0, I'm a registered user of the GS version, but while
I have manulas in excellent condition I the disks were lost during a recent
move. It would help if Claris was aware of the product!

While I generally agree with your views on piracy for the GS, I can help
looking at the thousands of dollars of sw I've spent for it and wondering
why much of it won't work properly ( after each System upgarde something
would break) and these companies don't seem to care.

While I'm at it I'm still trying to get the title page for DWGS to show.
Someone mentioned a patch on AoL. Do you know Bill H's e-mail address?

Don't let the ... get to you.
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: GSSymbolix Help
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: How do I use it??
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:46:00 GMT

Recently, a friend of mine gave me a copy of the GSsymbolix demo. While it
seems that it will do what I want it to, I have yet to figure out how to get
the program to integrate, differentiate, plot, etc. I keep getting the prompt
to put the formula in the highlighted area...either that, or defining an
independent variable. I do not know how to do this; the help file didn't really
help. I am SERIOUSLY considering purchasing this program, but how can I buy it
if I can't even understand the demo?? A program like this is just what the //gs
community needs, but it would be nice if I could at least get the demo to
demonstrate! 

Krishna


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Converting MicroSoftWorks->AppleWorks
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:34:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.151043.509@whscdp.whs.edu> alumn123@whscdp.whs.edu writes:
>I was wondering if anyone out there had any information about converting
>Microsoft Works back to Apple Works.
>
>Is there any programmers out there that have wrote such a program?
>We have the file system translator for the Mac? but, it would be nice to 
>convert files back to appleworks.
>
>The module inquestion is the database. A friend of mine would like
>to convert from MicroSoft Works database to a AppleWorks Data base.
>
>Any help would be appriciated.

Well, the Apple File Exchange on a Mac can convert files provided you have
the right file translators.  A company called DataVis markets dozens of 
translators under the tiltle "MacLinkPlus Translators 6.0"  I am sure this
package would have the necessary translators.  On the Apple II side perhaps 
CrossWorks would also do the job, but I don't know what exactly this package
will translate.

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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: StyleWriter vs. ImageWriter II
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:15:48 GMT

I've seen some really nice output from the StyleWriter.  As far as I can
tell, its quality is right between the ImageWriter and the LaserWriter.

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ejohnson@sparc3.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric E Johnson)
Subject: Re: Bilestoad
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:57:34 GMT

In <+wdmzp_.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:

>Wait a minute, he was robbed by the publisher. He did not profit from
>the copy's that were -sold-. This is not a piracy issue.

When I talked with Marc via email, he said that there were only about
1600 copies sold.  But, I would be willing to bet that there were over
20,000 copies out there.  I know, I had one of them.  I felt so guilty
about it, that I sent him a check for pirating the game.  I suggest
others do the same.  

>As for the maps, unless they were published in the manual (which I rather
>doubt), then they are the creations of whomever compiled them, and they
>do have the right to post them. What good are the maps without the game?

I got all the way to the uncharted islands without the maps...

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From: prophet@cheshire.oxy.edu (Dale B. LaFountain)
Subject: shell uncompress utility?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:33:23 GMT

Does there exist a shell-based utility which handles unix lzw
'compress'ed files?  I know that Gshk already does this, but I need to
uncompress many files, and Gshk is too cumbersome for this.

I found compress43.bsq on tybalt, but I am assuming (safely I hope)
that there is a companion exe called uncompress43 somewhere and not 
just a command line switch in compress.

Any info is appreciated.  

-Dale

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