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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: STANFORD/ARIZONA TRASH
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:32:06 GMT

valdis@skat.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:

>In article <aelman.721358597@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>>valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:
>>
>>>Usually I try to refrain in getting into a flame war dealing with worthless
>>>jibberish such as what is mentioned above but just can't help it this time.
>>
>>That's ok -- I like flame wars with USC fans. :-)
>>
>>only one reason why the U$C band has made "numerous TV and movie
>>appearances" -- it's because you're the most _convenient_ band in L.A.

>Check that, THE BEST MARCHING BAND IN LA! Also a recent SI issue
>declared them one of the best in the nation. Sorry... Didnt see
>Stanford's band listed any- where...

I saw that issue -- that's nice for them.  I have different criteria
for a good marching band -- -- a band that entertains without being
assholes.

>>>2. A band that has
>>>been exposed on a Grammy-winning album, or a band that likes
>>>"exposing themselves" in a diffrent way in public. 
>>
>>Gee, I'd have to go with the second again (funny how that works. :-)
>>Again, the only reason that the U$C Band plays with all these artists,
>>TV, movies, etc. is because _you're_in_LA_!!!!!  

>So what are you telling me here, if Stanford was located in the LA area,
>they would be getting all the offers?? Well maybe if Axl Rose or Sinead
>O'Connor do a remake of "TUSK", you may have a point! :)

Like I said, we have received offers before that we were unable to
accept due to University policies about commercialization of the
school.  

>>U$C Band.  Sure, they're good sounding (considering they only play
>>three or four songs, they kinda have to be :-), but we don't sound
>>that bad, have a MUCH wider repertoire (or at least we play a wider
>>variety of songs at a single game), and have a lot more fun than you
>>possibly could.  Which is part of our appeal.

>Obviously you should stick around avoid the traffic after a game and
>watch and listen while the USC Band performs about an hour concert
>after every game. Home or away, win,lose or draw. Guaranteed, no songs
>repeated here!

That's funny -- we do that too, home or away, win, lose, or draw.  In
fact, when we were down at USC last fall, I think we managed to stick
around longer than your band did.  And we do that even when we lose
far away from home (although, granted, our postgame concert at
Washington was very short, but we had a plane to catch and it was
_pouring_.)  And we don't repeat songs, including songs that we played
during the game.

Still, if U$C Band has such a wide repertoire, why don't they play
more songs so they won't get criticized for this so much?  And don't
tell me I'm alone -- just ask anyone in the Pac-10.

>Fight On,
>Valdis Kalejs

Right Off,
Adam Elman
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: How does TV work?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:59:10 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <92311.122340JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Hell, I'm still trying to figure out how ABC picks its games.
>They're actually televising Alabama-LSU?!?!  
   
   This is the same network bringing you Wisconsin and Mich. State. Naturally
   I'm happy to see my beloved Badgers on TV, but geez, you think they could
   come up with a better matchup. Well, I should say a better game. The matchup
   should be good, but I don't know if the game will. Probably about 13-10.

   --salty


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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! 
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:40:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.034244.5528@u.washington.edu>  
tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
> SMU 41 Houston 16
> 
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!

And where are those Horn-ed Frogs tonight???

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From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Subject: Re: Bama
Keywords: 13-0
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:58:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.141943.2046@b15.ingr.com> pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:
>13-0
>BAMA
>National Champions
>
>it all just sounds so good!!!!

[mindless drivel about bowling balls deleted]

Could somebody PLEASE E-mail me the procedure to include someone's
login ID in your kill file????

She's worse than all the people at UMASS!!! combined!

Pat
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From: dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias)
Subject: Re: The I-AA playoff picture
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:56:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.043453.25186@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>With two weeks left in the season, there are 23 teams which are still capable 
>of finishing the season with three or fewer losses or ties.  These teams, their
>records, and their remaining schedules:
>
<List of teams deleted>
>
>Likely Automatic Bids:
>
>Big Sky: Idaho      Ohio Valley: Middle Tennessee   Southland: NE Louisiana
>Gateway: N. Iowa    Southern:    The Citadel        Yankee:    Delaware
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>PDunn


In fact, Delaware locked up the Yankee conference automatic bid
this past Saturday with a win over UConn.  The worst they can do
now is tie for the Yankee conference title by losing to Richmond
but Delaware wins the tie breaker of head-to-head record with
the other contender, UMass.

-- 

David Mathias    Washington University in St Louis    dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu

               The University of Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac-10 expansion rumors
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:23:13 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov4.023344.11026@u.washington.edu>, baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.214804.16967@cs.uoregon.edu> elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
> >Wait!!! Don't drop Oregon!!  We could move school closer to the ocean!  I
> >contend that UO is better than several other schools in overall athletics
> >such as WSU, OSU, UW, and UA.
>   What?  Golf?  

No - can't be golf as clearly Arizona and ASU are the premier golf teams in the
Pac-10 - must be something else - we know it isn't football and basketball,
perhaps bowling???


			gln

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From: roper@halcyon.com (Michael Roper)
Subject: Re: Mo Points Theory holds with A.P. pollsters!!
Organization: Amaze Inc., Kirkland WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:55:46 GMT


I too read the story in the Seattle paper where several
AP voters were interviewed.  Although I've had strong
suspicions in the past, this clinched it.  These guys
are a pack of fools and have no business being involved
in determining the MNC.  They are either too lazy, too
blinded by bias, or too stupid to do a credible job.  Hell,
they can't even agree on what being #1 signifies (same
goes for this group).  

Anyone who doesn't vote a team #1 because 'they aren't
as good as last year' should suffer a lifetime revocation
of voting privleges.  That logic is so wounded it should
just be taken out back and shot in the head.  Even the
the venerable Keith Jackson indulged in that tripe as
he watched the Huskies obliterate the 3rd-ranked defense
in the country last week.

What annoys me is not the debate over who's #1.  It's
that it is so poorly waged.  There are plenty of good reasons
to support an argument that any of three or four teams is 
the nation's best.  Instead, we get drivel.  And for such
an exciting time in college football, that's just a shame.

Michael Roper
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Virginia vs NCSU game (was My Top 25)
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:06:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.030952.25476@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel) writes:
|>        I realize that there are some spoiled stuck up people
|> here, but I don't like being grouped with them.           

Alright, let's give you the benefit of the doubt...

|>                                            You can call the
|> folks here spoiled all you want, and you can have your Saturday
|> fun, but face it, you will probably work for one of them one
|> day

Ah yes, of course you're speaking of the famous UVa myth (and I emphasize 
the word "myth"):

Some UVa people like to promote their theory about people from other 
universities eventually having to work for them.  

I've always felt this myth was passed down through the years from class
to class in order to make students at that university feel that the extra 
money spent on their education was justified.  Yet in terms of my field, 
I haven't seen any real practical implementation of such myth.  There 
are plenty of examples and counter-examples to prove this claim just what 
it is: a truthless myth, a hallow ego booster.

|> Flame on Flunky, and send me your resume while you are at it!

And then you wonder just how you've earned that "stuck up" label...

-- 

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Bell Communications Research
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bama Mich schedules: my last comment
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:08:26 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Nov5.200607.23218@b15.ingr.com> pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:

   > At this point, I'd like to step back so that Debbie from ingr.com can jump in
   > and type "Roll Tide" a few times. 
   > 
   > Debbie?
   > 
   > Bill
   > --
   > -------------------------------
   > 	Bill Mangione-Smith
   > 	billms@eecs.umich.edu

   Roll Tide!!!!
   They are going to do win it all!!!
   Is that OK Bill?
   Roll Tide!!!

Well it wasn't very interesting or informative, pretty blah for a mindless
woof posting, but you do win points for consistancy of both style and
content.

On the other hand, this note shows some *interaction* with others.  I think
this is a big step forward, though you seem to still be a bit tentative.

Q: is it debbie or doug, as you signed a previous post today?

Q: given that you didn't delete the ":wq" from your last post, and included
~100 lines of quoted text for a 3 line responce, would you be interested in
learning how to use the line delete commands in "vi"?

Bill
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	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Billy Joe Woes
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:15:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: seashore.randall.721350957
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:

>Hell, even the article in the Seattle Times said this:

>	Hobert said he told several Husky assistant coaches he planned
>	to get a loan in the spring, but did not provide them with the
>	name of the lender or amount of the loan. 

>IMO, the coaching staff handled this situation properly. What should
>the coaches have done? Forbidden Billy Joe to get a loan? 

Not in my humble opinion.   They knew that it could be a violation of
NCAA rules to receive "loans".  They should have told Hobert
to keep them informed of the exact amount and source of the loan.

>Another quote from the article in the Seattle Times sums up Coach James'
>atitude towards letting players live their own lives.

>	"If he's violated rules, then there would be discipline," James 
>	 said. "But I don't have any rules that say what the hell players
>	 do with their lives. That's not my job. We have academic rules,
>	 we have NCAA rules for eligibility, but I'm not a judge. There's
>	 a lot of things that players do. I let them walk around with
>	 cellular phones, wear earrings, which I don't particularly enjoy.
>	 But I don't run their lives." 

The NCAA rules are designed to prevent paying money to players.
Hobert accepted $50,000 from a friend, which is a huge sum of
money.   The coaches knew about it.   It sounds like James
is making excuses for not keeping track of his players' rules
violations.  If the NCAA lets UW get away with this one, what's
to stop other players from getting "loans" from "friends" in the
future?   

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From: rszczerb@michaelangelo.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:51:11 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <1992Nov12.171026.25235@schbbs.mot.com> C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan) writes:
>what wimps those Irish are!  God knows they should get anything they
>want.  I would love to see them play Miami but I know it will never
>happen, Miami would KILL them.

Uh Debra ... are you the same person who predicted that
Boston College would COMPLETELY DESTROY those Irish wimps?

I think you're credibility is lacking a bit.

		- rob

P.S.  ND will gladly meet Miami in the Fiesta Bowl...  unless
they chicken out.     
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,alt.licker.store
Subject: Re: Apple Cup (was Re: Washington vs. Arizona)
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:13:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov8.222210.18105@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <26036@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)  
>writes:
>>  And the game is in Pullman.  Beware!
>
>Don't fall asleep...
>

DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! states that Pullman games are clear
violations of NeoMarxist principles and also economically
suppress those proletarians in need of semiotic neuroimplants...

Otherwise, this thread has no purpose on alt.licker.store.

Please keep all comments on alt.licker.store to the discussion
of DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! and read the FAQ if you have any
other questions.

	Jason
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: texas #20???
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:37:34 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Nov5.144211.2428@digi.lonestar.org> mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org writes:

> 
> >From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
> >
> >We're there any significant injuries Saturday during the Texas Tech
> >game? If so, what is their status for the T.C.U. game?
> >To be specific, Peter Gardere's elbow, I have heard many rumors.
> >Also, anybody know about any T.C.U. injuries?
> >
> >Hook 'em Horns!!!
> >-Chris (#25 to #20, is #15 next???)
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> believe me, texas does not deserve to be ranked #15, nor #20.

  Holy spit!  Reality from a 'Horn fan! (Apologies to Jay...)

> a&m, they are not a #5 team.  i would like to see them play someone other
> than louisville this week.

  Actually, so would we.  But I wouldn't right off Louisville, they've played
a fairly tough schedule (Ohio St., and Syracuse, to name a couple), and have
generally played well,just not good enough to win.  Someone posted their 
scores, and all but one were pretty close games.  They're no Miami, or Wash-
ington, but no SMU either.

>  they definitely need to add better football
> teams to their schedule.  if they want to be respected, they need to add
> ranked teams to their schedule.  don't get me wrong, they have a decent
> football team but #5....i don't think so.

  Well, we ARE working on it.  I believe Colorado, OU, ND, and some others are
listed on future schedules...not all in one year though!  It's not like you
can schedule these games just 1 year in advance...

  But I'll agree we haven't faced the competition of an FSU, etc. by any 
stretch of the imagination.  We'll find out our true ability in the Cotton
Bowl (note the unsubtle woof).


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: This Week's Predictions...
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:53:01 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

Here are my predictions for this week:

		Air Force	22	Army		10
		Akron		23	Temple		20
		Alabama		29	LSU		12
		Baylor		25	Georgia Tech	21
		Bowling Green	28	Kent State	 7
		BYU		31	New Mexico	20
		California	22	Oregon		16
		Central Mich.	35	Eastern Mich.	13
		Clemson		27	North Carolina	24
		Colorado	34	Oklahoma State	14
		Duke		28	Wake Forest	27
		Florida		30	S. Mississippi	15
		Florida State	29	Maryland	 6
		Fresno State	33	Utah		30
		Hawaii		28	Colorado State	21
		Houston		29	SMU		13
		Illinois	21	Purdue		20
		Indiana		27	Iowa		23
		Iowa State	31	Kansas State	28
		Kentucky	34	Vanderbilt	31
		Miami, O	28	Western Mich.	23
		Michigan 	41	Northwestern	 7
		Michigan State	28	Wisconsin	26
		Mississippi	24	Memphis State	20
		Mississippi St.	30	Arkansas	20
		Nebraska	29	Kansas		21
		Northern Illi.	27	SW Louisiana	20
		Notre Dame	28	Boston College	19
		Ohio State	31	Minnesota	13
		Oklahoma	34	Missouri	28
		Pacific		33	Fullerton State	13
		Rutgers		28	Cincinnati	16
		San Jose State	29	Nevada-Reno	18
		South Carolina	26	Louisiana Tech	24
		Syracuse	27	Virginia Tech	17
		Texas		30	TCU		10
		Texas A&M	33	Louisville	14
		Texas Tech	25	Rice		24
		Toledo		24	Ball State	23
		Tulsa		28	Texas El-Paso	24
		UCLA		34	Oregon State	17
		USC		30	Stanford	27
		Utah State	27	Nevada-Las V.	14
		Virginia	30	NCST		28
		Washington	24	Arizona		21
		Washington St.	22	ASU		20
		West Virgina	31	East Carolina	17
		Wyoming		31	San Diego State	30
		Youngstown	31	Ohio U.		22


D Man...
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From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OU's Coach
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:46:35 GMT
 <1992Oct19.220737.6693@utdallas.edu> <1992Nov4.202949.25079@iphase.uucp> <1992Nov5.185850.19495@utdallas.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Originator: zmed0b@zircon


In article <1992Nov5.185850.19495@utdallas.edu>, dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik) writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.202949.25079@iphase.uucp> grima@iphase.com (Gary Rima) writes:
> >In article <1992Oct19.220737.6693@utdallas.edu> dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik) writes:
> >>
> >>Disappointed I am with the tie, we are still in the race.  With CU getting
> >>beat in Lincoln on Halloween, we should be playing NU in Norman in November for
> >>a trip to the Orange Bowl.  I was there the last time the 'huskers came to town.
> >>I liked it.
> >>
> >
> >Sounds like a pipe dream to me (this year).  THE game for a trip to the Orange
> 
> I wrote that before the OU loss to KU.  It was realistic then. Not anymore.  It's
> either Jayhawks or Huskers.  Probably Huskers.
> 
> >Bowl appears to be KU at NU this Saturday.  No "woofs" on this end about your 
> >comment of liking the Huskers to come to town except to say let's just wait and
> >see this year!
> 
> NU certainly has more firepower than OU this year and should win.  But if any team
> could upset them, OU could, just by virtue of the history of this rivlary.  Regardless,
> the Sooners won't get blown away 52-7.  (I just love repeating that score!  Thanks
> 'Huskers, I thoroughly enjoyed every second of the total pounding and domination of
> CU.  Looks like the buffs couldn't beat either of the big reds this year).
> 
> >-Gary-
> 
>     OOOO      
>    O    O     =================================== |     Bill Dostalik
>    O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            | dostalik@utdallas.edu
>    O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |    Dept. of Physics    
>     OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    | Univ. of Okla. @ Dallas    
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I second that big time!  Ya gotta love Buffalo beatings.  
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: UVA: The reason to hate em' 
Originator: delarocq@c00093-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:20:13 GMT




  I have always disliked the Tarheels because they are so overhyped, so my
natural choice for college in North Carolina was NCSU. Until last year, that
was the only school I disliked. Last year, I developed a hatred for the school
of UVA. The band taunted, taunted some more, objects flying all around. The
school was a madhouse when I went there, fraternity boys sprawled out all
over, with a total disregard for sanity. My feelings were reaffirmed when I
went to the game on Saturday. When I first got off of the bus, the fans were
already insulting the band, calling us several unpleasant names. That wasn't
the clincher.. Explain to me this, UVA fans......

The PA system at the stadium said the following (to the whole crowd):

In 1992, North Carolina State University is proud to present their diplomas
on CD's... because they can't read...

Now, tell me if that isn't the most obnoxious thing to say on the PA??????

The last time the band at NCSU went to a game in UVA, 2 people had to go to
the hospital for injuries. 

I don't appreciate things being thrown at me or anyone else, I don't condone
it, and I won't tolerate it!!

Until UVA cleans up its act, I will always hate the school.

-- 
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