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From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:02:41 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <37243@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:
>Did michaelb@cse.fau.edu really type:
Yes I did.

>}  Funny, I thought it was the President of UF that said in a newspaper column
>}  that STUDENTS were the CLIENTS (ie customers) of the Universities.  :)
>}  I guess that attitude has yet to filter down.
>
>Isn't it amazing what politicians will say?
>
I didn't know college presidents were politicians.  Ours signs himself as
"President and Professor".  Heck, I was aware of this article 'cause the
chair of our department make copies and put them in all the profs mailboxes.

>}  >You mean they aren't?  Seriously - most of the questions I heard as a
>}  >lab ass was "How do I do..." instead of "This is how I tried to solve
>}  >the homework - will you show me where I went wrong."  This is why most
>}  >of us ex-lab asses know that students are the enemy.
>}  >
>}  Well, remember the old standby "RTFM". :)
>}  
>}  I get the same percentage of such questions.  Personally I prefer to deal
>}  with the second case.  
>
>Exactly.  I deal *only* with the second case and tell the former that
>I won't help them till they try it.  Of course, that makes me look
>like the bad guy.  Oh well!
>
Well, if I thought I could get away with it, I'd do that too.  Usually I tell
them to look in the handouts we have in the lab.  If I'm in a good mode, or
I know the person, or I'm feeling egotistic and want to show off, then I'll
help them.  

One thing that really got me was helping idiots us wordperfect or 1-2-3 when
I worked in the PC labs.  I don't use these programs, so I really don't know
to much.  But the thing is, we stick those wordperfect function key things on
so you know what keys to hit, and 1-2-3 has a menu-like system.  For WP 
questions I look at the function key sheet.  Boy do they look like idiots 
when I do that.  


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)
Subject: Re: dorm traditions
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:44:56 GMT

polly@iastate.edu (Paula Puffer) writes:

>as for dorm cafeteria names we had one in the UDA called the Dungeon 8-)
>it was rather dark and dank hence the name 8-).  Although they did remodel
>it, but it didn't help much. 

At BYU there a a couple of dorm cafeterias named the Cannon Center and the
Morris Center.  The students have appropriately renamed them the Cancer Center
and the Morbid Center.
Organization: Penn State University
Organization-][: The Calcium Cult
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:25:23 EDT
From: Doug Morack <DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Increases (WAS Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
 <1992Sep30.114038.59299@cc.usu.edu> <92274.154747HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1adfg4INNepe@bigboote.WPI.EDU> <92278.045305MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <92278.112527HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> <92278.214322DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <92278.221105HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92278.221105HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>I see we have a future beaurocratic administrator here.  Doug, go check your
>incoming mail list.  I had the courtesy to respond to you via email rather
>than flame you on the net.

    My only reason in posting to the net was to set the facts straight to the
entire net....  I think that the net deserves to know the truth, instead of
someone's misinformed ideas.....

-Doug
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban,soc.college
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: Class distinction in colleges
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:56:19 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Sep28.210244.24349@cc.umontreal.ca>, cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:
|> [stuff deleted]>
|> >The practice was alive and well at Penn State in 19960 when I was a
|> >freshman where dinks annd name tags and school songs were a part of
|> >the ceremonies (but hazing was forbidden), but there was no evidence
|> >of it a year later(fraternity rituals excepted), when I went to
|> >Berkeley as a sophmore.  At Penn State, attendance at football games,
|> >along with ROTC, was mandatory -- and frosh initiation was declared
|> >over at the first Penn State Touchdown.
|> 
|> Hazing is anything that sets "in" members apart from "out" members, whether
|> or not you agree with doing it.  It is a common misconception that hazing
|> involves physical or emotional torture.  Hazing is usually done because of 
|> vengance (they did it to me so I will do it to them sort-of-thing).  
|> 
|> I assume that you agree with mandatory attendance at the football games, which
|> depending on the punishment for not attending, can be seen as a form of kidnappi
|> ng or possibly extortion.  
|> 
|> I find it amusing that while actions described above are considered "normal"
|> but if done by a fraternity or sorority would be cosidered "hazing" (which it
|> is).  
|> 
|> 
|> Michael Bertrand
|> Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity, Kappa Chi chapter, 350.
|> cholette@jsp.umontreal.ca

Let's not start the whole greek/anti-greek thing or I'm gonna get
Ted Frank over here!

Jared "and I'm taking my ball too!" Dahl
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From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL S. PRESTON, ESQ.)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: permanent temporary buildings.
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

on our south campus at ub, there are maybe half a dozen aluminum/cinderblock
buildings that were built 20 or so years ago as temporary 'annexes' to the
buildings they were built next to. hayes hall has three or four such annexes.
anyway, these buildings were built around 1970 as temporary structures, and
are still called temporary today. go figure. hell, they survived the blizzard
of 77......that's about as permanent as you can get :)

mike
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: hoesly@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Rebel Contrabassoonist)
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Organization: Contrabassoonists Anonymous
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:07:23 GMT

In article <darknite.718066652@camelot> darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III) writes:
>oNow that I think about it, Bradley University may have one of
>the most interestingly named buildings...

The dorm t-shirt for one of the towers here at St. Olaf
was kinda interesting a couple of years ago, too...

On the front, there was a drawing of the tower, and the question:

   What's guys on top of girls on top of guys on top of girls
   on top of guys on top of girls on top of guys on top of girls
   on top of guys on top of girls?

The answer, on the back of the shirt:

   That's what makes us MOHN!

 

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
From: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Subject: Re: Class distinction in colleges
Reply-To: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:42:58 GMT


>>I'm wondering...this sort of distinction between academic classes at
>>American colleges no longer exists.  When did it die out?  What was
>>the social factor that caused it to disappear?  Certainly this sort
>>of thing isn't endemic to Columbia...

Matt BcErvin posts;

>At William and Mary, freshman used to be required to list the
>college "priorities" (things in which William and Mary was first

Well, Well.  I knew that if i read this group long enogh I would
find someone from good old W&M!  

When I was a grad student (in the early 70's)  freshment were still
required to cover their heads in public with stupid hats called 
"dinks" if memory serves.  female students were not allowed to wear
pants, nor could they smoke in public.

Ed "still reads the Flat Hat" Bogart
From: pereira_f@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Computer Lab Security (Moroons!)
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:36:33 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

You guys got a few cracks about computer operators eh!
Well listen to this :

"Computer Security Moroons"

I had a C program due at 10 am and went to school early to work on my 
program and it turn out that the computer lab opened at 8:00..
the security guard forgot to lock the computer lab so i just entered the 
lab at 7:30 and began working on my program..(lab had ADT system)
All of sudden two security guards come in and i am setting at the terminal
and they think i am there to steel the hardware so the are getting ready to
take me away when i said " look i am logged in and working ..i'm a f**king
student....and they said.."How did you open the door..after they realized 
they left the door opened overnight they said-" your still not supposed to 
be here" so they wanted to give me a ticket!!($50)for traspass!!!
I said f**k you and called my professor and got it straightened out...

but damn what moroons!!!
see ya,
Felix
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban,soc.college
From: mds@iastate.edu (Mark D. Smucker)
Subject: Re: Class distinction in colleges
Organization: Iowa State University of Censorship and Repression
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:11:07 GMT


When my father went to U of IL at UC in the late 60's the freshmen
were still required to wear beanies whenever in the union.  Although,
I believe he stated something about people never actually following
the rule.

Maybe I should call home and ask....

Mark D. Smucker  ---  mds@iastate.edu
From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Dorm traditions
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:58:06 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

JJ Serowik writes:

How 'bout indorm sports like...



Darts. Scary times were had be all. There were two sets of stairs
leading to the hallway on which I lived. The dart board was set up at
the end of the hall, perpendicular to the back stairway, so you had to
open the door and yell if anyone was playing darts, and if so, would
they please stop. Made life more of a challenge.

There was a warning sign, Post-It note sized and stationed about three
feet above eye-level.

Scott Wells
Organization: Penn State University
Organization-][: The Calcium Cult
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:43:22 EDT
From: Doug Morack <DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Increases (WAS Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
 <1992Sep30.114038.59299@cc.usu.edu> <92274.154747HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1adfg4INNepe@bigboote.WPI.EDU> <92278.045305MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <92278.112527HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92278.112527HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>That's the truth.  Here at P$U, if the tuition goes up it *MUST* be August.
>Not only that, if the administration can't come up with a high enough
>tuition increase, they add mandatory fees.  Like the $35 / semester "computer
>fee".  When I was at one of the satelite campuses, I requested a mainframe
>account at the main campus because I had to pay the $35 bucks.  I was told
>that I didn't need the account for any of my classes.  I asked what the
>"fee" was for then, and they said if I didn't use the mainframe then I
>could use the PC's in the other lab.  I said "But I use my OWN pc!" to
>which they said "too bad."

    The $35 fee is for administraitive purposes - i.e. for your registration,
adding or dropping a class, and other purposes of that nature.  If you are
going to complain about something, at least know what you are talking about so
that you don't make a fool of yourself.

-Doug
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Naming Hallowed Institutions-to-be
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 08:43:31 GMT

c3zx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>Today at Cornell we had the dedication of the Kroch Library, paid for
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now there's a hallowed institution that doesn't need renaming! Its official
name sounds just fine as it is.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: New logos (was Re: Iowa State University Towers)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 21:49:39 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Oct5.143431.7970@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.130412.23933@athena.cs.uga.edu>, wells@athena (Scott Wells) writes:
|> >came here in 1988 and had since given U.Ga. a
|> >new logo (which we paid gobs for
|> 
|> A few years ago, the U of A decided it needed a new logo, reportedly
|> because the old one was too "associated with sports".  (Gee -- ya don't
|> suppose that's because most people saw it on football helmets and
|> basketball jerseys?)
|> 
|> Anyway, they hire this guy to come out from New Jersey, and design for
|> us a nice new academic-looking `A', and charge us $30,000 for it.
|> ('course, it was actually 2-for-1, since he also did the `U').
|> 
|> Needless to say, this caused no small uproar, since this took place in
|> a time of ever-increasing tuition and ever tightening department
|> budgets.  
|> 
|> >, and a graphic design prof graded a "C."
|> 
|> Yah.  Nobody much liked our new logo, either.

Are you sure you're not at North Dakota State University??

Same thing happened there.  $30,000 for the logo, and then they 
decided not to even use it because of the uproar.  The VP in 
charge got fired, and some funds were even misapropriated.
WOW!!  And their library is "slowly sinking into the ground."

Jared Dahl
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From: fuzzy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Fuzzy)
Subject: Re: dorm traditions
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:58:35 GMT

here at cary, we have the nude olympics...not much as olympics go...just a 
bunch of people (male and female) get naked on what is supposed to be the
coldest night of the year, and run around the outer sidewalk in the 
courtyard...kinda amusing....tho the mis-management doesn't approve...

Fuzzy
--

The other night I was lying in bed looking up at the stars, and I
wondered: "Where the FUCK is my ROOF ?!??!!"

fuzzy@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Increases (WAS Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Supersedes: <92278.223417HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:43:08 EDT
From: <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92278.222523DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>, Doug Morack
<DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>In article <92278.221105HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>>
>>I see we have a future beaurocratic administrator here.  Doug, go check your
>>incoming mail list.  I had the courtesy to respond to you via email rather
>>than flame you on the net.
>
>    My only reason in posting to the net was to set the facts straight to the
>entire net....  I think that the net deserves to know the truth, instead of
>someone's misinformed ideas.....
>
>-Doug

Gee, Doug.  You don't let up, do you.  My "misinformed" ideas are based upon
the fact that Penn State charges a $35 fee for "computer usage."  This usage
indeed is partially for administrative purposes like adding and dropping
courses, but it is also for maintenance and use of the schools computer
facilities.  You said so yourself to me via email.  If the mainframe is
not considered a school computer facility, then I haven't the foggiest
idea what is.  I would like to set the facts straight for YOU, Doug, here
on the open forum since you couldn't take a hint and take this flame thread
to email.

ObMath: Let's see:  38,000 students here at main campus, 4000 at Behrend
campus, at least another 15000 at the OTHER 19 branch campuses.  That adds
up to $1,995,000 dollars.  There are no more than 10,000 VMS accounts
issued (that is a guess, I honestly have no facts on this number - just
speculation) taking into account the arts majors, psych majors, etc that
don't use the computer system at all except for administrative purposes,
and then take into account grant monies used for the computer systems
including private corporations like IBM, Apple, NeXT, etc.  This adds
up to quite a large sum just for administrative costs.  Like I said,
it includes the right for a student to use the mainframe.

Now, please grow up and end this thread on the net and, like I asked you twice
already, take it to email.

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*  HCM100@PSUVM.psu.edu  |   think a good thing to ask is if they   *
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From: skitchen@pilot.njin.net (Not your average USENET junkie...)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:01:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <EACHUS.92Oct1092045@Dr_No.mitre.org> eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes:

>     When I was at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) I had
> book covers (printed by the humor magazine) for the
> 
>           Meaningless Infinitude of Terminology
> 
>     Looked so much like the ones sold at the Harvard Co-op that almost
> no one noticed...
> 

As additional fodder, there's also...

Masochistic Institute of Torture

There've got to be other alumni out there with more...
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From: MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu (Norman St. John Polevaulter)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Date: 4 Oct 92 08:53:05 GMT
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Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy

>In article <92274.154747HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>PSU (Penn State) is often confused with Pretty Shitty University.
>>My favorite, however, is the Division of Undergraduate Studies (DUS)
>>which is aptly renamed (D)on't (U)nderstand (S)hit.

Also referred to as Pepsi State University (the powers that be recently
signed an agreement with the Pepsi-Cola Megacorp that basically turns our
souls over to them) or simply P$U (tuition increases -- you can set your
watch by 'em!)

                  "Two hundredth verse, same as the first!"
[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions they'd probably try to charge me for it.
From: c3zx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Naming Hallowed Institutions-to-be
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:40:31 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

Today at Cornell we had the dedication of the Kroch Library, paid for
in part by Mr. Kroch. He put up $10 million, the university added
$15 million, and we ended up with an extension to the main graduate
libaray that is totally underground. It houses the Southeast Asia
collection. 
I wonder how big a building we could have put up for $25 million
totally above ground. Not to mention that we had a big hole in our
Arts quad for about 2 years.
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: class rivalries at colleges
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:46:42 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Anthony Edward Prattico (pratta@rpi.edu) wrote:
  [regarding nasty aggie hazing stuff]
:In these days of lawsuits, sexual harassment cases, assaults cases, rapes,
:and stalking laws, I'm surprised this is allowed to happen. It is nothing more
:than harassment, or a legal form of hazing. If anybody had pulled this on me
:my freshman year they would have ended up in the Dean of Students office or in
:front of the j-board.

you have to understand that texas a&m is very very good-old-boy about
their traditions. the guys who join the corps[1] know what's gonna
happen to them, and the corps as a whole jealously guards all their
lovely little tribal practices. there was a story in texas monthly not
too long ago about how the corps was forced, kicking and screaming, to
accept women, and of the subsequent sexual harassment these women
received.

so the people being hazed as she described are pretty much willing
victims.

[1] the corps is the texas a&m rotc unit. it's huge, old, and steeped
in weird little traditions.the only way to be in the school band is to
be in the corps, i've been told.
From: hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: permanent temporary buildings.
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:52:40 GMT
Organization: U of MN Herbarium

>>on our south campus at ub, there are maybe half a dozen aluminum/cinderblock
>>buildings that were built 20 or so years ago as temporary 'annexes' to the
>>buildings they were built next to. hayes hall has three or four such annexes.
>>anyway, these buildings were built around 1970 as temporary structures, and
>>are still called temporary today. go figure. hell, they survived the blizzard
>>of 77......that's about as permanent as you can get :)
>
>>mike
>
>On the Busch campus at Rutgers University, New Brunswick, there is a building
>whose abbreviation is TCB.  It seems logical, since this building is now
>known as the Taylor Road Classroom Building, but TCB originally stood for
>Temporary Classroom Building.  Well, I guess if you can't change the building,
>change the name. :)
>
>Tracy Finifter

The current site of UCSB was originally a Marine Corps Air Station during
WWII. At that time the Marines built several "temporary" buildings for use
during the war. When I greaduated in 1989 many of these buildings were still
in use as office space for Teaching Assistants.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: BACS Data Communications Group <commgrp@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: parking tickets
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:51:35 GMT

Wouldn't it be great if some professor of law (with tenure, of course)
sued a university for charging its employees to park?  Maybe the case
could be dragged out for YEARS of appeals, etc., during which all
universities would be enjoined from charging for parking stickers!

hee hee!

What, me sign this?