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From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JUSTICE LEAGUE
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:39:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr15.063929.22112
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Apr14.210058.3840@iscsvax.uni.edu>  
campbell3789@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL MEMBER?
> MINE IS GUY GARDNER.  LET ME HEAR YOU CHOICES.
> 
> KRIS CAMPBELL

First, stop yelling, we can hear you just fine.

Second:  Well, I currently have no favorite Leaguer because the current  
"creative" teams have pretty much messed 'em all up.  But, if I had to  
choose one, it would probably Gardner.  It's pretty hard to not write Guy  
in character.  All you have to do is have him say the most obnoxious  
comments you can think of.  My one problem with Guy in the JL books is  
that they now have him saying "Bwah-ha-ha" all the time, which, everyone  
knows, is Beetle's line.

However, I do like many of the characters when they're in their own books.   
But I don't feel like getting into that.

Michael J. Winston
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:12350 talk.religion.misc:6368
From: jwindley%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Dead Sea Scrolls
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:04:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: hellgate.1992Apr7.220420.14708
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

charyma@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>The Dead Sea Scrolls have been translated the most part (well over 99%)

Perhaps 99% of the material made public, but there are still 800
scrolls from Cave 4 that nobody outside the Ecole Biblique has seen.
Of the scrolls known to exist, no where near 99% have been published
as facsimiles, let alone translated.

--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
Jay Windley                     | jwindley@asylum.utah.edu
Department of Computer Science  +---------------------------------------
Univ. of Utah, Salt Lake City   | "I have detailed files."  -- T2
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.sf.written
From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Re: Wildcards
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.105835.2268@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (Corwit of Amber) writes:
>[how the Wild Cards books have gone downhill...]
>
>As far as I'm concerned, the single best story is Zelazny's in book I, too
>bad the character was ruined in later treatments.

  Which character?  Sorry, I can never remember who wrote what with
Wild Cards...

I agree that things have deteriorated...I was rereading the series
about a month ago and couldn't motivate myself to read past #5...

Jonathan Lennox
jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Masque...dead? (was Re: X-Force and the New Mutants)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:20:59 GMT

Since I started the whole Masque's sex thing, I'll back up the claim.
(unfortunatley I do not have my collection here, but...) I know when Masque
appeared in Claremont stories (prob. the first morlock-group story,the Kitty
marries Caliban story and prob durring the Massacre(?)) Masque is refered to as she.(at least by Callisto)

also
>	Masque's gender is irrevelant.
>  	 Masque can change its apparent gender at any time (think about its
> 	 "mutant power" (tm) ).
>                        -Jonathan
Masque can't use her/his power on her/hisself (I feel like I'm writting about
Dr. Tachyon).That's why she looks so disformed and has such a hatred of beauty
(see the Kitty/Caliban story)

------SCAVENGER

-- 
If some unemployed punk in New Jersey, can     |kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu <-I.NET
get a cassette to make love to Elle McPherson  |
for $19.95, this virtual reality stuff is going|No matter where you go,
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From: RDAY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: X-MEN CARDS
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:40:25 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs


I heard that someone was selling a box of X-Men cards
for $30.00.
Does that mean I stole mine since my dealer was 'giving'
them away for $14.00 PLUS the membership discount?

Jeff

;)
From: barry@clark.edu (Barry Lieberman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: rec.arts.comics.strips is here NOW
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:07:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr9.010732.14257
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

I still see 'STRIPS:' articles being posted here.  For those that don't
know by now, I just started to receive rec.arts.comics.strips yesterday.
As for how many articles I have at my site for that newsgroup, it is up
to 300 in less than 1.5 days.  So, if you don't have it yet at your site,
please request it and we can see if there is a difference in how many
articles get posted after people use r.a.c.strips instead of r.a.comics
for their strips postings.
-- 
barry@clark.edu   'Bread and Circuses', or voting for one's own self-interest,
     or           is the cancer of democracy.
uunet!clark!barry          Jubal Harshaw - To Sail Beyond the Sunset
                                   Robert A. Heinlein
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: uk02700@nx28.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french)
Subject: Re: adamantium
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:12:37 GMT
X-Bytes: 

In article <167C9424.RCARR00@ricevm1.rice.edu> RCARR00@ricevm1.rice.edu  
(Rick Carroll) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.213623.11013@ms.uky.edu>
> uk02700@nx05.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french) writes:
> 
>> >> 	
> >	According to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe, adamantium just
> >doesn't change after it hardens.  It can't break, it can't bend, it  
can't
> >be screwed with in any fashion.  They even say that it won't flow if it
> >does melt.
> >	Thus, adamantium claws never get dull, so they need no sharpening.
> >	You could drop a tank on Wolvie and he would be smushed somewhat.
> >His bones would not break.
> >
> Of course, in the most recent Guardians of the Galaxy, Rancor threatens  
one
> of the Guardians with "the severed claw of her ancestor", i.e.  
Wolverine.
> Fire that continuity man.  ;-)
> 
> RIC
	
	Actually, when I saw that, I had this weird image of someone doing  
the classic "pulling out of fingernails" thing....with Wolverine's claws.   
Just yank that adamantium talon right out of the flesh....
	Oh well....:)

Mushroom
From: rlawson@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: British Comics
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:33:18 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <DAMIAN.CUGLEY.92Apr2152656@opal.prg.ox.ac.uk>, Damian.Cugley@prg.ox.ac.uk (Damian Cugley) writes:
> From:	Morpheus <csg194@cch.coventry.ac.uk> <cv5gb6tm@cck.coventry.ac.uk>

>> >If there is anyone living in England reading this post

	I don't live in England but I want to
answer anyway.

>> >* Are Marvel and DC comics sold in England?  Are they the same as what
>> >  appears in the US or are they repackaged?

	Classic Batman and Superman tales are
repacked in the 'British' newsprint comic style.
	The UK newsagents sold 2 month old
comics at (to me) 75% of the price if I bought
them in Canada. (I remember favouring the DC
comics as being a bigger 'discount' than the
Marvel's)

	I wish the British and European market
in general could afford to solicit their
products through Previews, I've always wanted
to read work like Bilal's in their original
form (read? yes! comprehend? ... probably not)
	Ok, Fantagraphics published Perramus,
it's a start.

[comic shops have]
> shelves of "advance imports", (the ones without
> barcodes) air-freighted [...] only a week old,
> usually at inflated prices (it used to be 65p vs. 40p, for example).

	I can't deny this, because when I snuck
into two British comic shops (when parents not
around) I ignored the american publications
completely and went straight for the British
edition of Marshal Law and bought (among other
things) a copy of Deadline as well.

> Also, they would be too expensive when exported -- DEADLINE (a monthly)
> costs #1.95.  Even without factoring in air-freight, that's $4
	The first series of repacked Deadlines
USA's were around $10 (way out of my league).
I'll probably be able to afford the new,
smaller series starting in April.
From: imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Casting Coup
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:52:21 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Scotland.

imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord) writes:
>   Wonder if Lorne Greene would like the part.
  I've been informed that there may be a problem with this casting.  I'd like 
to apologise if I've caused any offence.


   Now, do I need an orthodontist or a chiropodist to get me out of my present
fix ?

		~~~~~/\~~~~~
Iain McCord	~~~~/()\~~~~	Mon Apr  6 09:52:18 WET DST 1992
		~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Best/Worst PAD
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:52:32 GMT

In article <12019@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzhedric@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>Hi,
>	Since I began reading this group I get the feeling that most of us
>are pseudo alt.fan.PAD members.  So... in the interest of pursuing better
>story lines in comics I ask you all this question:
>	
>	What is your favorite PAD story?  Why?

Mmm.  Tough question.  I'd have to go with X-Factor #71, simply based on
comparing it to the previous writer.  It was an extremely refreshing change.

>	What is your least favorite PAD story?  Why?

This is a tie between his ST novel _The Rift_ and the Crazy Eight issue of 
_Hulk_.  The first was just a horrbile piece of work, with a cliched intro,
uncomfortably quirky characterisation, and an illogical plot.  The intro
especially stands out.  The Crazy Eight issue was, again, cliched almost to
the point of being trite.  One of the big mistakes was that it's difficult to
feel for a character (which I believe David was trying to do with CE's death)
without knowing more about her.  She didn't significantly change in motivation
or character by the end of the story, and so was two-dimensional and nearly
impossible to emapthize with.  (Short synopsis of my gripes of this story
from my GENie days).

However, most of the rest of his work is above-average.  I certainly liked
Atlantis Chronicles (although the sales of the series point to me being one
of the few).  And his Starman issue with Mr. Nebula was funny, although it
resorted to some cliched plot elements (probably Mr. David's greatest weakness
as a writer).  

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling (jcowling@butterfly.UVic.Ca)
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opnions disassociated)
"Don't worry, Percy, you'll get over her.  I did.  So did Baldrick, as a
 matter of fact."
				 	- E. Blackadder
-------
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: paladin@starbird (Vaughn Clark Gross)
Subject: Re: MUTANT:  Rogue's powers
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.204915.11692@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>>
>>She seems to be able to pick up certain sorcerous abilities as well;
>>in MARVEL TEAM-UP 150, she siphoned off part of the Juggernaut's
>>powers, but was overwhelmed by said power (as opposed to by Cain
>>Marko's persona itself, as I recall).
>>
>
>From this issue comes the way to get rid of the Juggernaut.  According to it,
>when the power left Rogue, it went back into the crystal.  Juggs grabed the
>crystal, reclaimed the power, and threw the crystal into space.
>
>So, have Rogue start grabbing Juggs' power, and eventually he'd have none left

	sorry.. but his don't work... check out x-men 221 or thereabouts... 
  rogue,psylocke,longshot, and dazz stop juggie and during that time rogue does
  absorb juggies power but it goes back to him after...

	probably claremont forgot MTU 150 or he decided it didn't matter...
  after all... what good is continuity...    8)

 Paladin (ever shifting bearlike being....)	     
     Reality	       | " Wouldn't you laugh if your head exploded???  
 		       |	 No.... I guess you wouldn't.....	 
 paladin@wpi.wpi.edu   | I would."   (Nosage, June 91)
	
human is the foulest name i can ever call a person......
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: MUTANT: Gambit (was Re: MUTANT: Rogue and Sexual Harassment)
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:21:19 GMT
 <1992Apr13.215851.28966<1992Apr15.172927.9104@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <92106.160528ST02183@auvm.american.edu>
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: dmmatt

In article <92106.160528ST02183@auvm.american.edu>, 
   <ST02183@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> 
> Incidentally, how the hell did he go toe-to-toe
> with Gladiator, who once lifted the Baxter Building and can move at near light
> speeds. I don't think hitting him in the stomach with a deck of cards (I don't
> care what kind of energy they're turned into) would do a damn thing. Gladiator
> has taken shots from Colossus and hardly noticed.
>                  -Jason, American University

Gladiator has been demonstrated in FF to be a completely psychic character, to
the point of he has as much power as he believes he does.

If he thought Gambit could beat him, he would.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: arfg9274@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Audrey R. Forster)
Subject: Re: The Little Mermaid #4: Submerged in Horror
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:03:20 GMT

branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams) writes:
>In article <167C8DBB2.MHART00@ricevm1.rice.edu> MHART00@ricevm1.rice.edu (mason hart) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr12.225739.1@fnalb.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalb.fnal.gov (I Elmo) w ites:

>>It's a FAIRY TALE for God's sake!
>>That's what Fairy Tales are
>>for -- not to teach us about the real world, but to give us an escape
>>into a world that's a little bit better.

>Actually, that's not what fairy tales are for. They are stories meant
>to teach a lesson. The original versions of fairy tales had brutal endings.
>In "The Little Mermaid," when the mermaid became human, walking was like
>walking on sharp knives.

And in the end she became "sea foam" and didn't marry the prince...

 In "Hansel and Gretel," at the end the evil
>stepmother had to wear metal shoes heated to white-hot heat. In "Little
>Red Riding Hood," the huntsman cut open the wolf, freed Grandma and Red,
>and filled the wolf with hot rocks.

Actually, in the very original, there is no huntsman... only a satiated
wolf and two digested women :-) (or :-()

-Audrey Forster

>                                          Karen Williams
>                                          branwen@cerebus.ras.amdahl.com
>"Don't whine. Warrior women speak in a husky whisper."
>  -- Brat Pack #3
From: douga@yang.earlham.edu (Doug Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: New Muitants Volume 2
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:19:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr14.101956.16958
Organization: The Lion of Serrea


In article <1992Apr8.014617.9762@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero) writes:
> asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto) writes:
> 
>>I'd have to agree that everything sounds great, but you seem to have forgotten
>>a few things... Emma Frost is not in the best of shape right now. As a matter
>>of fact, her body is in the care of the X-Men after what happened when the
>>Upstarts attacked the Hellfire Club.
> 
>>Speaking of the attack on the Hellfire Club, most, if not all, of the Hellions
>>were disposed of by Fitzroy. I know that he took care of at least Tarot and
>>Beef (many of the the Hellions were shown, but I'm not sure which ones were
>>killed). This happened in the Uncanny X-Men. I'm not sure of the issue, but I
>>think it was the one where Bishop first showed up.
> 
> 	I really liked the idea, and especially liked the characters...I think
> it would make a good addition to Marvel.  As to the point about some of the 
> Hellions being dead, I just wouldn't worry about it.  I beleive that Beef,
> Jetstream, and Tarot (my FAVORITE underused chacter) were all killed by
> Fitzroy's attack.  Just ignore that whole mess:  it was garbage.  The Hellions
> were killed in a cheap way, and if Marvel gives you the go ahead, I'm sure
> most people wouldn't care if you brought them back, no questions asked.
> 
> 	The only things that really stuck out in my mind as being troublesome
> were a) Guido as Lila's housekeeper (he would be good though), and b) Lila
> and Stevie seemed to be kind of flip about starting up a new school.  They
> didn't seem really interested in the kids, but more interested in "living like
> in the old days".  If this was intentional, the kids first combat (and first
> injuries...) could have an effect on their outlook....
> 
> 	I LOVE the Sam, Keith, and Tarot characterizations...Cool Stuff!!!
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
	Glad to see some people liked it.  As I've said before, my 
numbskull ex-roommate posted the scripts before I could edit them and put 
in an explanation.  The scripts were written when X-Men #273 was out.  
This puts them before Lila's reappearance, before Emma's "death" and the 
Hellions' crash & burn, and before the founding of X-Factor.  If I wanted 
to set them in the current Marvel universe, I'd edit them (removing Guido 
at least; he only had a minor role anyway).
	(And, now that I look back, you're right; Stevie may have been a 
bit too flip.  Although Lila is pretty much always like that.)
			--Doug
From: scott@nv10.uswnvg.com (Scott Eckelman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC: Peter David to write Aquaman
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:15:33 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Bellevue, WA

In article <56603@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>And in case it wasn't clear (since I don't generally resort to smileys and
>such), no, my feelings weren't hurt.  The tone was meant to be tongue in
>cheek.  Takes more than you got to hurt me, kiddos.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>PAD

Oooh, sounds like the gauntlet has been flung down :-).  Any takers?
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:13367 news.groups:10429
From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,news.groups
Subject: Re: SPLIT: Proposed charter and poll
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:59:57 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards) writes:

>NOW is the time to discuss this - it makes sense to split rec.arts.comics.

>	rec.arts.comics.manga
>	rec.arts.comics.misc
>	rec.arts.comics.super-heroes
Sounds good--two changes, though...

Make r.a.c.s into .superheroes or .superhero.  No hyphen.  I prefer
the latter (we are discussing "superhero comics")

Add rec.arts.comics.reviews.  Possibly moderated.

I'd hold a poll on this, but most colleges are starting spring breaks
about now.  

What do others think of this?
-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<--------------
It is said that the gods play games with the lives of men. But what games, and
why, and the identities of the actual pawns, and what the game is, and what the
rules are--who knows? Best not to speculate. Thunder rolled... It rolled a six.
From: romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC: Doom Patrol Annotations (long)
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:16:15 GMT

sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:
>p. 6: Honey says that 5 is the number of his conspiracy.  This is strange,
>considering how, in the _Illuminatus_ trilogy by Shea and Wilson, 5 is
>the number of the Discordians, not the Illuminati.  I would identify Honey's
>side with the Illuminati.  Just the Pentagon, I guess...

I think you've got that slightly wrong. Hagbard Celine goes on quite a bit
about five; it's in general an important number (after all, 2 + 3 = 5,
and 23 is important too), but 5 is also strongly associated with the
Illuminati (there are 5 prime illuminati).
-- 
		- john romkey			Epilogue Technology
USENET/UUCP/Internet:  romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us	voice: 617 942-0915
From: brackney@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry J Brackney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marshall Law
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:50:34 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr7.144226.16481@reed.edu> mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston) writes:
>Besides Marshall Law 1-6 and Marshall Law takes Manhattan, what Marshall  
>Law books have come out?

   Epic is no longer handling Marshall Law.  Apocalypse comics is the new
publisher.  (I believe)  This may make getting the other issues a bit
more difficult.

   Apocalypse has put out two more books: Kingdom of the Blind, and The
Hateful Dead.  KotB is a one-shot, and I highly recommend seeking it out
if you are a Law fan.  THD is the first part of a new story, and
was not that terrific.  Unless I'm mistaken, the next issue is scheduled
to come out in the near future.

   - larry

--
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-MORDRED(was Re: A new tack on the (Re: X-Men Traitor))
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:46:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsu.1992Apr9.204642.18826
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr9.055245.11005@reed.edu> tbroudy@lust.reed.edu (Timothy Malcolm Broudy) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.202201.11501@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>  
>kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>> 
>> BTW: why would Emma Frost want to kill the X-Men?  The X-Men and  
>Hellfire club
>> were ,if not friends, allies.  Remember that Storm and the  
>non-pod-person
>> Magneto joined the H.C. as the joint White King.
>Check your history. The X-men and the Hellfire Club worked together,  
>occasionally... when necessary. They all go a long way back... They've  
>fought each other for far longer.

Thank you.  I know that.  But they ended their conflict right before the Massacre, when it was realized with the rising forces of hatred, Nimrod, later the
Marauders, the Reavers, etc. that for the two groups to continue fighting, would
make it easier for the muntant-haters to win.

The two groups settled their differences, and except for some friendly rivalry
between the Hellions and The NEw Mutants, it was left at that.  Of course,
Simonson came in, helped turn Magneto Evil again, and screwed up a nice development, but....

BTW anyone remember that the Shadow King was suppossed to have tkaen over
the Lords Cardinel(?) That was why he was called the Shadow King, rather than
Farok.(I think this was shown in an issue of EXCALIBUR)

-------SCAVENGER

-- 
If some unemployed punk in New Jersey, can     |kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu <-I.NET
get a cassette to make love to Elle McPherson  |
for $19.95, this virtual reality stuff is going|No matter where you go,
to make crack look like Sanka. -  Dennis Miller| there you are."-Buckaroo Banzai