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From: markh@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mark Holladay)
Subject: pregunta
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:30:55 GMT

                        PERUANA EN HAWAII
                        BUSCANDO NOTICIAS

     Quisiera tener noticias hacerca dela situacion en el que se
encuentra el Peru con respecto a la violencia  ya que vivo en
Hawaii por 4 anos y pienso regresar de visita  por 1  mes me
encantaria tener una idea concreta ya que he escuchado  muchos
rumores sin ninguna base muy agradesida                           
                                         KATYA

     respond to: markh@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
 FELIZ NAVIDAD
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Guatemala Troops Harass Indigenous/
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:35:00 GMT
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Subject: Guatemala Troops Harass Indigenous/ed-lp
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


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edlp 12/10 

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman.  "el Diario/La Prensa" is a
Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


GUATEMALAN TROOPS HARASS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE

On Dec. 9 the Communities of People in Resistance (CPR) in
Guatemala denounced the "constant harassment" by army troops
against indigenous populations displaced by the violence in the
jungle areas of the northeastern part of that country. Indigenous
Leaders Eliseo Lope, Paula Ros, Carlon Tun and Marcos Ramirez said
at a press conference in Guatemala City that on Nov. 29 army
troops attacked two small towns in Ixcan, Quiche, along the border
with Mexico, some 300 miles from Guatemala City. 

Meanwhile, Rigoberta Menchu is in Oslo, Sweden, to receive her
Nobel Peace Prize. Francis Sejersted, president of the Nobel Prize
committee, said "may your prize serve to renew the peace talks in
Guatemala." (edlp 12/10 from AFP)


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From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Test
Date: 8 Dec 92 16:47:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

This is a test.  Please disregard.
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From: psilva@dcc.uchile.cl (SILVA OSORIO PABLO WASHINGTON)
Subject: Re: Otra cueca (CHILE y ARGENTINA)
Originator: psilva@dcc.uchile.cl
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:34:59 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion

In article <7862@news.duke.edu> cfa@duke.edu (Carlos Alzola) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.185558.23392@dcc.uchile.cl> psilva@dcc.uchile.cl (SILVA OSORIO PABLO WASHINGTON) writes:
>>Hola a todos!!!
>>
>>Aqui les mando esta cueca para que vean como se expresa el pueblo
>>de Chile... esta cueca la canta un famoso cantautor su nombre
>>es Tito Fernandez "El Temucano"
>
>Muy linda la cueca psilva (Pablo?). Aca va otra muy conocida en Argentina, y 
>creo que del otro lado de los Andes tambien:
>
>CUANDO PA' CHILE ME VOY
>
>Cuando pa' Chile me voy
>cruzando la cordillera
>late el corazon contento
>una chilena me espera
>late el corazon contento
>una chilena me espera
>:::::::::::::::::::::
 ::::::::::::::::::::
 ::::::::::::::::::::
>Saludos
>
>Carlos

 Muchas gracias Carlos por escribir esta linda cueca 
 que la cantan (para mi gusto) muy requete bien el
 conjunto Chileno los Cuatro Cuartos!!!!, realmente es muy
 linda... ojala tenga mas tiempo para escribirles mas
 cuecas y tonadas.. les prometo la proxima semana un
 articulo de la Isla de Pascua y sus tradiciones ...
 
 Asi que nos vemos a la misma hora y por este mismo canal...
 Bah! perdon... por esta misma lista... Ok?

 ChaoooooooOo

 Saludos desde Chile!!

 
-- 
atte psilva

psilva@dcc.uchile.cl Estudiante de Ingenieria en Ciencias de la Computacion
                     de la Universidad de Chile.
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From: dnettles@engws2.ic.sunysb.edu
Subject: Re: G.O.D.
Originator: dnettles@engws2.ic.sunysb.edu
Keywords: god religion
Organization: Commanders Of The Stuplonitron Helmet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:41:38 GMT


Perdoname me pobre espan~ol, pero quiero entrar a esta converscion.

?Por que' necesitamos una religion?

?Que' tipa de la funcio'n sirve una relogion?

El problema que tengo con las religiones es que tiene que creer en las
ideas de la religion totalmente por la fe y sin la prueba.  Hay ma's
que 10, 100, 1000 religiones en el mundo que requieren que la  gente
los sigua y los crea solamente por la fe.

Mis problemas con esta sistema:

-- Cada religion dice "somos correcto; otros son incorrectos;
entregaremos a Uds. a la salvacio'n."

-- Cada religion dice "Dios no nos necesita probar nada." pero a misma
vez dice "Dios tiene infinito poder;  Aceptalo por la fe."


Para mi me parace como es una situacion peligrosa porque quisas las
creencias no tengan la base.  Por ejemplo:

	LA SITUACIO'N:
	--------------
	Le voy a vender un coche por $200.
	La puesta es que me paga $20 mensual por deiz meses.
	Despues de diez meses, va a tener su coche.
	Firmamos un contrato.  (Lea el contrato y firmalo.)

	LA PREGUNTA:
	------------
	?Tendria el coche despues de diez meses?

	LA RESPUESTA:
	-------------
	No sabe.

Podemos decir que escribimos un contrato.  Pero por eso ?me pueden
confiar que iri'a seguir el contrato?  En la realidad no.

Cambia "yo" en "LA SITUACIO'N" a "La Compania".  La Compania tiene
muchos trabajadores que van a vender coches en la misma manera.
LA PREGUNTA: ?Tendria el coche despues de diez meses?  LA RESPUESTA:
No sabe.

En la realidad tenemos cortas que nos protegen desde las malas
personas y las malas companias que lo hagan.

Pero, con las religiones es el mismo sistema.

	LA SITUACIO'N:
	--------------
	Le voy a dar la vida enterna en el paraiso.
	La puesta es que me da el diezmo y tu espiritu hasta que la muerte.
	Despues de la muerte va a tener la vida enterna en el paraiso.
	Firmamos un contrato.  (Lea la biblia/koran/etc. y acepta
	Jesus_risa, etc...)

	LA PREGUNTA:
	------------
	?Tendria la vida enterna en el paraiso despues de la muerte?

	LA RESPUESTA:
	-------------
	No sabe.

Si Ud. cree _SI'_ ?por que'?  
?Que' es la diferencia entre las situacio'nes?

No solamente porque Ud. tiene la biblia/koran/etc. es bastante porque
la biblia/koran/etc. solamente es un contrato.  Un contrato solamente
es la palabra de la promesa.

No es bastante que hay muchas personas que creen lo mismo.  Porque
todo los nin~os creen a Santa Claus, pero Santa Claus no existe.

?Que' es la corta que le va a proteger?


David


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****************************************************************************
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   Grumman Data Systems
From: 002564r@axe.acadiau.ca (RICARDO FLAVIO ROMAN-CARBAJAL)
Subject: Una preguntita de futbol
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:29:43 GMT

tengo en en la linea un escoses de la region de Shetland cuyo idioma madre 
es el gaelic (claro que tambien hablan ingles)y hace tiempo me pregunta 
sobre dos futbolistas cuyos nombres me recuerdan algo pero nadfa en 
concreto, les agradeceria que me manden la informacion que tengan, si son 
buenos, si son conocidos, en que andan etc.

los nombres son    Victor Ferreyra
                   Jose Luis Pocheti

si estoy pasando como un ignorante del futbol disculpen 
solia estar al dia en mis tiempos por alla por el sur
pero por aqui lo unico que se es que los "Blue Jays" de Toronto campeonaron 
en la serie Mundial  de baseball eh!

                     Ricardo Roman
                     Nova Scotia Canada
From: ktsj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Subscription
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:54:03 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

How does one subscribe to this group???

Please send reply to
                    sga1@cornell.edu


Gracias
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Colombian Workers Demand Pay Hike
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:24:00 GMT
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Subject: Colombian Workers Demand Pay Hike
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


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From el diario/La Prensa 12/18/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el Diario/La Prensa"
is a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.

Colombian Workers Demand Salary Increase

Colombia's National Labor Council is demanding a minimum 30%
salary increase for 1993, along with a price-freeze for the first
four months of the coming year, and increases in the rates of
goods and services after the four months of no more than 20%.

Labor Minister Luis Fernando Ramirez said the workers' proposal is
unacceptable because it would cause uncontrollable inflation. He
said there might be a compromise at a 24% wage increase. However
Treasury Minister Rudolf Hommes advised that he backs a 22% wage
increase with a 30% increase in prices for gasoline and
electricity. Private businessmen said they would agree to a salary
adjustment in line with the inflation rate for 1992, which would
be about 25%. Sabas Pretel de la Vega, President of the National
Merchants Federation (Fenalco) said, "This kind of adjustment is
fair because it allows the worker to recover the ability to buy,
equal to the degree of this year's inflation."

If the National Labor Council achieves a salary adjustment
agreement, the government will expedite the decree. If there is no
consensus the government will make the adjustment unilaterally.
That is what has been done in past years when the workers did not
accept adjustments equal to or less than the inflation rate.

The current minimum wage in Colombia is 65,100 pesos
(approximately $93) per month. Although the minimum wage affects
less than a third of Colombia's workers, it is important because
it is the yardstick by which both public and private salary
adjustments are measured. (edlp 12/18/92 from AP)

 

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From: ez000281@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: News
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:00:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

LATIN AMERICAN NEWSBRIEFS 12-15-92

EL SALVADOR: FREE AT LAST!!

The Crisitani Government celebrated the complete disarming of the guerrillas 
and the advancement of peace in El Salvador.  The FMLN diarmed completely and 
whatever weapons remained were shipped to the remaining marxist guerrillas in 
Guatemala.  The festivities were attened by tens of thousands of Salvadoreans 
including the top brass of the military and the guerrilla leadership.  V.P. Dan 
Qualye was the main speaker in the event and stated that they U.S. had condoned 
today 75% of the Salvadorean debt to help them with reconstruction.  Quayle 
also said that the U.S. government had no rancor towards any party and that we 
would support the people of El Salvador "no matter which side" they had taken 
during the conflict.

DEATH KNELL TO HISPANISM?

In a U. of Texas (Austin) study released today, most "hispanics" do not 
consider themselves as such, but want to be treated as either "Mexicans" 
"Cubans" or "Puerto Ricans" and think that "hispanic" is a cover term imposed 
by government to privilegwho whish to make 
their way into the country by making use of Federal Assistance..  The study 
also found that there was practically no support on behalf of these communities 
towards the policies of Latin American governments but instead felt more 
"Americans" than the average "American".  The study also found that the Cuban 
American community was ideologically more "liberal" than the maintream in all 
aspects of politics, except when it comes to the issue of Fidel Castro. [Who 
know perhaps they really are even more liberal even in this issue].  The report 
is expect to have profound impacts in future government policies towards 
"hispanics".

NICARAGUA:  AID DELIVERED

Once having legally reimbursed the owners of Sandinista confiscated property 
the U.S. delivered to the Chamorro government the 110 million dolars in foreign 
aid.  The effect of such aid is expect to stregnthen the Nicaraguan Presidency 
and its struggle to control the seditous elements within military.

MACHAIN RELEASED

Dr. Machain was exonerated of all charges related to the killing of DEA agent 
Camarena.  The family of Dr. Machain was surprised and elated at the 
magistrates decision, who exonerated the accused Dr. on grounds of insufficient 
evident.  His spouse immediated stated that she had renewed her confidence in 
the U.S. system of justice.
---

Edelmiro
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Colombia Newsbriefs 12/9 ed-lp
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:13:14 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

The NY Transfer News Service writes:

>GALAN FACES TRIAL IN COLOMBIA

>The legal process against Ricardo Galan, third in line as leader
>of the National Freedom Party (ELN), has begun in Colombia. Galan
>could face 20 years in prison. The nation's attorney general will
>receive Galan's statement while lawyers from the Committee for
>Political Prisoners will monitor the conditions under which he is
>kept.

>Galan was captured on Dec. 3 in the city of Bucaramanga and taken
>to the State Security (DAS) prison in Bogota. He is accused of
>terrorism, rebellion, kidnapping and extortion, among other
>charges. He is the only ELN leader who has been caught in the past
>20 years, and is considered to be the mastermind behind dynamite
>attacks on Colombian oil pipelines, which have cost that country
>billions of dollars since 1986. The Colombian government is
>offering a reward for information leading to the capture two other
>guerrilla leaders. (edlp 12/08 from AP)

What the pinkos don't say is that he was caught while sniffing some of the  
hundreds of pounds  of cocaine he had in his possesion.  It seems that the 
guerrilla movement in Colombia has senderized itself by becoming involved in 
the drug trade to maintain their "revolutionary" effort.  While their at it, 
they have done a marvelous effort in duping what left of the U.S. "left" in 
making drug traffickers/addicts and environmental terrorists appears popular 
heroes.  Communists and druglords seem to be on the same side throughout Latin 
America.  First the Sendero Luminoso enjoys wealth from the drug tax they 
impose on "pasta basica".  Then Noriega makes excellent profits by shipping the 
Cartel's merchandise via Nicaragua and Cuba, later Fidel Castro was involved in 
drug running to Florida, and now Galan is caught red handed with his cocaine 
cargo while sniffing some of it himself.  Perhaps they think like the Cuban 
communists who have stated the yankiee capitlists will fall not throug the 
rebellion of the proletariat but with the real opium of the masses easily 
provided by communist drug merchants.  In any event if our Colombian friends 
have trouble convicting this assasin, we will happily do so for him and, who 
knows, perhaps he could share a cell in Marion with pusher Noriega, so that his 
"human rights" will not be violated.

Edelmiro
From: anibal@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (Anibal Jodorcovsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Mafalda
Date: 19 Dec 92 05:39:41 GMT
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

In article <1992Dec18.164132.17465@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> anibal@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (Anibal Jodorcovsky) writes:
>Justamente, todo este 'thread' de Mafalda me hizo a#orar tanto
>las tiras, que fui a buscar entre las cosas que nunca saque de
>la valija desde que llegue a Montreal, y encontre Mafalda Inedita,
>que creo fue la ultima publicacion de un librito de Mafalda.
>En este, se publican muchas tiras jamas antes publicadas en los 10
>libritos con explicacion historica de cada tira y un poco del 'background'
>de Quino. No me acuerdo el a#o (ya que ahora no estoy en casa y no tengo el
>libro a mano) pero segun lo que Quino dice Mafalda no muere ni mucho menos,
>sino que solamente se despide por un tiempo ya que tanto ella como toda la
>barra (y too Quino :-) esta muy cansada.
>En cuanto vuelva a casa les paso lo que las tiras dicen exactamente.
>
>Hasta pronto!
>
>-Anibal

Como les prometi esta tarde aca va la ultima tira que aparecio de Mafalda,
a mediados del a#o 1973 (mayo, junio) para finalmente despedirse el 
25 de junio de 1973.

Mafalda: Y... pensamos, sr. director, que... en fin... con la liberacion 
         nacional...?que tal si por un tiempito liberamos a los lectores
	 de esta pagina? ?eeehh? (4 junio de 1973)

Susanita: Uds. no digan nada que yo les dije, pero parece que por el
	  preciso y exacto lapso de "un tiempito" los lectores que
	  esten hartos de nosotros van a poder gozar de nuestra grata
	  ausencia dentro de muy poco. (18 Junio 1973)

Mafalda:  Dice el director que bueno, que a partir de hoy podemos darle
	  un descanso a los lectores, pero que si alguna de nosotros se
	  mudare, trasladare, y/o apareciere en otra revista y/o diario,
	  el a patadas nos agarrare.

Felipe:	  !Jorobare!
Libertad: !Pero no! ?A quien se le ocurriere?
Miguelito:Yo dijere que por ahora esa idea no existiere.
Manolito: Y si alguien nos sobornare?
Guille:   ?Por quien nos tomares?		(25 Junio 1973)

Que las disfruten!
Felices fiestas!

-Anibal
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Argentina to Send Troops to Somalia
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:09:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Colombia Newsbriefs 12/14 ed-lp
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:56:00 GMT
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Subject: Colombia Newsbriefs 12/14 ed-lp
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


Via The NY Transfer News Service * All the News that Doesn't Fit

From el diario/La Prensa 12/14/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.

Violence Continues in Colombia

Three men and a woman were killed by gunmen on Dec. 13 in 
Medellin. At the same time, an increased terrorist campaign in 
the city has left extensive material damage and two people 
slightly wounded. Three Colombian Liberal Party headquarters were
almost destroyed by dynamite. The explosions all went off 
simultaneously and blew out windows and destroyed the facades of 
the buildings belonging to the governing political party, as well
as neighboring buildings. (edlp 12/14/92 from AFP)


Galan Will Be Tried in Colombia as a Common Criminal

In the Dec. 13 edition of Colombia's newspaper El 
Espectador, it was revealed that the leader of Colombia's 
National Freedom Party (ELN), Francisco Galan, who was captured 
by Colombia police on Dec. 3, will face trial as a common 
criminal. He is charged with terrorism, conspiracy, association 
to commit a crime and carrying illegal weapons. Galan is the 
fourth person in the line of power in the ELN. The group is 
estimated to have 3,000 members and is led by Spanish priest 
Manuel Perez. According to some experts, there is no political 
crime involved in Perez's case. (edlp 12/14/92 from AFP)
 

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From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:20 PST
Subject: Cristiani Declares Peace Accords Su
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Subject: Cristiani Declares Peace Accords Successful
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


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edlp 12/10 

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman.  "el Diario/La 
Prensa" is a Spanish language newspaper published in New York 
City.

SALVADORAN PRESIDENT CRISTIANI SEES SUCCESSFUL PEACE PROCESS

Salvadoran President Alfredo Cristiani declared on Dec. 9 
that a peace accord between his government and the Farabundo 
Marti National Liberation Front (FMNL) would be signed on Dec. 
15, without any problems. Upon arriving in Panama to attend a 
summit of Central American presidents, he said that the peace 
process would "culminate in a positive way and it will obviously 
bring domestic stability, but also stability to our Central 
American brothers." Cristiani said he felt the peace process has 
moved in "exemplary manner," adding, "there has not been one 
violation of the ceasefire." (edlp 12/10)


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From: alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz)
Subject: Re: News from Mexico
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:35:40 GMT

In article <19886@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, ez000281@othello.ucdavis.edu
writes:
> I'm reposting some news a friend sent in recent days
> 
> Edelmiro
> ------
> 
> EL PASO TIMES - December 4, 1992
> 
> 
>                         STARVATION KILLS
>                        50,000 KIDS A YEAR
> 
>      MEXICO CITY--Some 50,000 Mexican children under age 5 die of
> starvation every year, a researcher told a conference on health and
> nutrition in the Mexican capital.

I would greatly vhallenge this figure. Remember that STARVATION
is not the same as MALNUTRITION. I've been some of the poorest 
parts of the country and everybody has something to eat. Sometimes
is damn little but they can eat. This produces undernourishment.
Starvation is what happens in Somalia where there is basically no
food at all for some sectors of the country.

 

-- 
Alex Lopez-Ortiz                              alopez-o@maytag.UWaterloo.ca
Department of Computer Science                      University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario                                                   Canada
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Mexico and Somalia
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:42:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Rolando,

A mi me tiene sin quidados lo que hacen los Japoneses y si quieren continuar
invirtiendo todo su capital en nuestro suelo que lo hagan, ademas ahora con  la
aprobacion del tratado de libre comercio tendremos bastante mano de obra
barata en Mexico parar poder mantener nuestros niveles de consumo (muy por
encima del de los japoneses) y continuar viviendo el suen~o americano.  Los
otros dias alguien me argumentaba que nuestra economia estaba en bancarrota y
que los japonenes producian todo y bla... bla... bla... Yo simplemente le
dije que los japoneses no producian armas y el me contesto: y contra quien
va a usar EEUU todas esas armas?  A quien le van lanzar un proyectil nuclear
que diga "made in the U.S.A."?  Yo solo me quede mirandolo a los ojos sin
contestar, y me parece que entendio el mensaje.  Asi que pues, a los japoneses
les conviene compartir sus riquezas con nosotros y abrir sus mercados, puesto
que de lo contrario los problemas va a ser mucho mas que los economicos. 
Ayer dieron un documental estupendo en "FRONTLINE" que trataba sobre este
mismo tema.

Edelmiro