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From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: Help! Need advice on adopting a cat
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:58:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.130016.17951@cci632.cci.com> agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama
Chathampally - co-op) writes:
>
>I love cats and want to adopt one from the humane society.  I am
>interested in getting an older cat.  My main concern is for the lonliness
>of the cat.  I live in an apt and the cat would be alone all day while I am
>at work.  I don't have room for two cats in the apt.  I thought an older cat
>could maybe adjust better to being alone all day but I'm not sure.  Should I
>just forget it?  I need advice!!!! Thanks.
>
>
>                                          Anu ( cat-deprived )

Adopt!  Many, many people have one cat in an apartment.  I asked about this a 
few months ago and received many replies on this subject.  The consensus of 
opinion was that cats are probably better off with a cat-companion if you work 
all day--however, having just one is not cruel and the one cat that you do get,
especially if older, will most likely be a live cat in your apartment rather 
than a dead cat at the shelter.
From: sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Wierd Cat?
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:22:06 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon

In article <1992Jul26.173328.5316@rock.concert.net> jim@sun0.elon.edu (Jim Murphy CS Faculty) writes:

>Our adopted cat has a real love of getting under a piece of newspaper.
>We can cover him with a single sheet of newspaper and he can lie there
>and behave himself for quite a long time. He sometimes plays "chase"
>and runs back under his sheet of paper. Is this normal? He now expects
>his newspaper each night!


>-- 
>Jim Murphy                     Campus Box 2235	
>Voice : 919-584-2290           Department of Computing Sciences	
>e-mail: jim@sun0.elon.edu      Elon College
>e-mail: murphy@vax1.elon.edu   Elon College, NC 27244

My cat Rosie loves to play under newspaper.  She likes me to put several 
pieces over her and then attacks anything that she hears close to the paper (
like my hand).  She doesn't like it every night but lets me know when.

Sal
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,news.answers
From: crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: New Cat Book (humorous)
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:10:29 GMT
Organization: Imperial College London

In article <1992Jul16.133411.13867@mahendo.jpl.nasa.gov>, julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
> 
> 
> 	I found a very cute, very funny book in the bookstore last
> night.  It's called _The Cat Who Would be President or How I Clawed
> My Way to the Top_.  It's a small book with watercolor drawings and
> as long as you don't take politics very seriously you should like
> it.


My mother gave me a really good "cat" book last year - it's called
"The Cat Who Came for Christmas" by Cleveland Amory.  It's a real life 
tale of a man who gets "adopted" by a fat white cat called Polar Bear.
It tells of His First Trip, His First Bath etc.  It's not the sort of
book I would normally buy, but it made me laugh till my sides hurt.  
It is also quite moving.  He's got another one out now about the same
cat, with a similar title, although I can't quite remember what it is.

If you see it - buy it!!! It's set in America, so some of you might find
it even more interesting than those of us across the water!

Roo
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Subject: Re: Sleeping with cats...NEVER AGAIN
Reply-To: amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:48:22 GMT



Well, Tess and I are getting used to sleeping together.  She doesn't sleep
ON me anymore, because I move around too much for her.  However, last night,
she took her half of the bed out of the middle.  :-)

We're doing better on the early a.m. wakeups.  She now gets up at 6:00 
instead of 5:30. *SIGH*

	Ann
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: What Elvis Kittycat thinks about people's schedules
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:10:49 GMT
Organization: NCAR/UCAR

"They're ok, considering they're not cats, but they have no idea of
time!  They put out food in the morning, but I don't even want to do
more than nibble on it until late evening.  Just when all normal cats
such as myself are trying to catch a few Z's, in the middle of a hot 
afternoon -- that's when they show up and want to play with me!  And 
then, when it gets dark, perfect for hunting, what do they do?  They 
go to sleep, that's what! I'll never understand them!"

-- 
/\        Ilana Stern DoD#009 | Whoever first said, "Things are seldom as they 
  \_][    ilana@ncar.ucar.edu | seem," was wrong.  Things are usually as they
      \_______________________| seem.  Otherwise, they wouldn't seem that way.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Female versus Male
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:44:52 GMT

nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
: In article <1992Jul22.152834.2082@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
: >
: >Is there a distinguishable difference in character and temperament between 
: >female and male cats?  This question assumes cats that are spayed or neutered
: >and live with people.
: 
: I've had both, and I would recommend a male.  Both of my sisters would
: also recommend males (my older sister had no choice about the one female
: she has -- she came with the two male kittens!  :-) ).
: 
: This is, of course, IMHO, but *in my experience* males tend to be a
: little less hyper and more affectionate.  (Oh, boy, I know that's going
: to stir up a beehive!)
: 
Not a beehive, but a different point of view. I dearly love my male cat, but
it has taken years of work to get him to (mostly) give up unacceptable 
behaviors such as shitting in the bathtub and urinating on the carpet. On the 
other hand, all three females I've lived with have been essentially litterbox
perfect. My female cat Tris is the most affectionate cat I have ever lived
with. Christopher (bless his heart) likes affection, but never ever asks
for it - I have to seek him out. He usually will enjoy it for a few minutes,
then he gets "weirded out" and bolts. As I said, I dearly love Christopher,
but I will choose female cats from now on (however, I might get chosen by
a male cat, that's another issue!).

The point is, it really depends on the cat. One can make generalizations 
about males and females, but it may not be true for any individual cat. 


Kathy
From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Thyroidectomy
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:13:44 GMT
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Jul22.004620.9746@phlpa.pha.pa.us> scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold) writes:
>I have a domestic short hair 13 yr old cat. I just have taken it to the vet 
>because she was not eating and she was loosing  alot of weight. We have found
>out that her thyroid has a tumor and must be taken care of. Her thyroid level
>is way up and she has just started tapazole 5mg 1 1/2 tabs twice a day. This
>is to lower her thyroid activity. I have a number of problems I hope some
>people may be able to answer.

Ditto Scott.  My !bicker is probably about 5 years old and has lost
over half his weight.  My vet said that we could deal with this by
simply shtooping him with 1 tab of tabazole every 12 hours for the rest
of his life.  Whereas for a 5 year old that might be a pain, I'd guess
that that would be the best option for a 13 year old, eh?

>1) I live in center city phila pa. The vet I take her to gets $132 for
>   bloodwork. This has to be done approx every 3 wks until the meds are at
>   the proper level. 

My first set of blood tests, which tested for thyroid, leukemia and
AIDS cost $112.  I think the thyroid test alone costs $35.  I'm about
an hour from Philly.

>2)  The vet has made a few suggestions as to how to proceed. One is surgury to 
>    remove her thyroid. They want approx $450 to do this. To me this seems
>    very high. The other suggestion was to take her to NY and get radiation
>    to destroy her thyroid but she must stay in NY for approx 2 wks because

My vet didn't indicate that they would do this anywhere nearby.

>    she would be considered radioactive. I would do this because it is supposed
>    to be  safer than surgury. My delema with that is that I am afraid that
>    the trip, distance and isolation for that time would do more harm than good.
>    ( I have another cat as well and I am afraid she will die of being away)

I'd bet that cats are more resilient than that.  If this is a real
option, I might consider it for !bicker.

>    Does anyone know where in NY this is done and approx how much it may cost.

Please post this info.  Thanks.

>I have been told that I may get another 2 years from her just from meds but
>surgury or the radiation *should* be done because meds don't work after a
>while and the surgury or radiation could give me another 7 yrs or so.

Huh?  My vet didn't indicate this.  Is it true?

I would hope not.  This condition is similar to what George and
Barbara Bush have (Gray's Disease), and I believe that's being treated
solely with medication.
-- 
Brian Charles Kohn               using !bicker's account
Poet-Magician of "Quality"       E-MAIL: att!hoqax!bicker  (bicker@hoqax.ATT.COM)
    'Hope, not fear, is the most positive advocate of action.' - S.R. Lawhead
                   Stamp Out "SO": "RP" = "Romantic Partner"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: What does he DO in there???
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:43:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.175358.6129@sco.com> joannee@fscott.UUCP (Joanne Eglash) writes:
>
>My cat absolutely goes ga-ga for any place with water.
>She has a very nice water dish, but lead a cat to water, and you
>can make her drink as long as it's dripping!  Last night was
>the ultimate in funny cat pictures. I was in the bathtub, in
>bubbles up to my neck, soaking blissfully. Suddenly I heard a
>creeeaaaakkkkk, and the bathroom door slowly opened. I was
>terrified -- until I saw a little pointed face peering 'round
>the side. She suddenly came running into the bathroom, hopped
>onto the side of the tub, and stared at me for one second -- then
>flung herself onto the bubbles!!!  ****wild cat shriek*****
>

That is hysterical!  That would have made a great Americas Funniest
Home Videos!

Thanks for the laugh.




-- 
 Cindy Newell - Usual disclaimers apply
 Martin Marietta Astronautics Group  (303)977-9804
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com  (if that doesn't work try)
 cnewell@azum.den.mmc.com
From: maurercj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Marbles!
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:39:23 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati


  As for marbles...please make sure that your cats are playing with the 
large "shooter" marbles.  The smaller (regular sized) ones can be put 
in their mouth and they could choke.  I like to "decorate" plants using
marbles which I found out my kitty loved but, she also tryed to carry the
marbles off in her mouth so that she could play with them.  I then dug out
the shooter marbles and placed them in the play area.  She now just plays
with them and leaves the smaller ones alone (thankfully).

Cathy, Isis, Sekmhet, Tweety, & Pi
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Why do I do this to myself????
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:21:47 GMT


>klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>>I gotta have "cat sucker" written all over me in letters 2 ft high...
>
>It's a chromosomal disorder 

No, I think it's in our auras (or something like that) and that cats
can spot a cat aura from a mile away.  Why else do strange cats *run*
out to fling themselves on their backs in front of me when I go for a
walk at night?  Or sit on their lawns and talk to me if they're too
shy to come out?  (Because they know I'll talk back!)  They are very
mysterious animals, and they *know* a cat lover when they see one!  I
find it pleasing to be a member of such an exclusive sorority ... :-)




--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: uw.forsale,rec.pets.cats,kw.forsale
From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: Landlords (was Re: Free Cat(s)!!!!!!)
Keywords: Free, Cat
Organization: MFCF Software Volunteer Squad, University of Waterloo, Canada
Distribution: uw
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:39:58 GMT

dbshapco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Brad Shapcott) writes:
>Ummm, I'm sure in the case of transfer of lease that the landlord can
>recover reasonable fees (cost of a credit check for example) from the
>tenant.  I haven't specifically looked up sub-lets, but was under the
>impression that reasonable costs could also be recovered for a sublet
>(could be wrong, as oddly enough I don't carry the LTO around in my hip
>pocket).
>
>Could someone clarify?

I assume by LTO you mean the Landlord and Tenant Act (LTA).

I have the LTA at home.  It says that a landlord cannot make a charge for
subletting or assigning the property, except his reasonable expenses thereby
incurred.  So yes, a credit check is a valid charge, but an arbitrary $50
(which I was charged once and proceeded to sue for) is unlawful.

>Also, a set fee doesn't seem to immedietely be
>justified, but it might not be worth complaining about if reasonable.

I disagree.  ANY fee which is arbitrary or illegal is worth complaining about.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT)
Subject: Re: Cats and Leather Furniture
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:53:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.023648.2542@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> drv@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dennis.r.vogel) writes:
>I have two female cats about 5 years old.  Each has had
>its front claws removed but their back claws are intact.
>Both cats are exclusively indoor dwellers.
>
>I am considering the purchase of a leather sofa but I
>am concerned that the cats will put holes in the leather.
>Does anyone out there have cats and leather furniture? 
>What effect do they have on the leather, assuming they
>jump on and off the furniture regularly and sleep on it,
>oh, as much as cats generally sleep?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dennis Vogel
>AT&T Bell Laboratories
>Middletown, NJ

Dennis,
	Unfortunately, it gets just as scratched
as other kinds of furniture.  The main damage
is "treadmarks" from a quick takeoff.  Although
Kiki would *never* scratch furniture with me
present, it seems to have developed some tatters
on the corners, as well.  Bits of the inner padding
get pulled throught pinholes in the leather.
Sort of a looped rug effect.

	I long ago decided that my cat is a living
creature, and my furniture isn't.  I love my cat
much more than my couch, so a little damage
doesn't annoy me in the slightest.  I just don't
care about it!

-Craig 

-- 
--------------------
Craig Hyatt
NCSU@Raleigh, NC USA
echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Subject: New houses (Was Re: cat toys ideas)
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:24:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.121912.4160@cs.nott.ac.uk>, cczcole@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole) writes:
> 
>     PS. We're supposed to be moving to a new (as in just been built) house at
> the end of next week - anyone care to pass on any general house-and-cat moving
> hints?
>     The cats are predominently indoor cats who get let out a few times a week
> but never seem to stray far and more often than not come in again after not
> too long - especially as they still insist on using the litter tray despite
> having access to a whole outside world!  How long do you reckon we should keep
> them indoors at the new house before letting them wander?
> 

Since I was out on Friday, this has probably been answered, but here's my
2 cents anyhow:

Cats LOVE a brand-new house -- it's virgin territory to make all theirs.
If you have a covered patio and can do it, put in a cat door (we got the kind
that goes in a sliding glass door as a full-length panel), and put the
litter box on the patio. Show them where it is and how to use the door,
and they'll do it outside.

I kept mine in about 3 or 4 days, and then took them outside the first time,
and showed them the fence surrounding the yard, and the gate I propped open
with a cement block so the old cat who can't jump the fence could get to
the front yard, or could go out the front door and come in the back cat-door.
Then the next day, I just let them out, and they were fine.
-- 
Mindy
*****************************************************************************************
Mindy Machanic  (AG Communication Systems/Quality Engineering, Phoenix, AZ)               
(This space available for interesting messages and the usual disclaimers...)
From: maji@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: new report on kitty's condition
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:18:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: max.1992Jul22.121824.1

I want to thank you all there for the help and love toward my kitty. I
received many helpful and supportive message. Now I want to tell you
the progress kitty made:

After vomitting on Monday midnight, kitty didn't vomit for 24 hours. 
He vomitted again last midnight, I think it is because I force feed
too much. Last night he went back to his sweet oldself. He slept on
my shoulder and arm and chest, and kiss me on the face in between.
that is something he hadn't done for three days.  In the morning,
(7:30am), I walked down to his food plate, he immediately followed.
although when I open different brands of canfood, he sniffed, but don't
touch. finally, the "fancy fest" caught his appetite. I only give him
two small teaspoons, afraid his stomache won't accept it too well.

now it is noon, he still follows us to the referigerator where the can
food is kept. but this time he doesn't like either of those brands,
(including fancy fest.)  I shall play with him for a while to see if
he like to eat again. if not, I will force feed some A/D again. He
learned very quickly how to act to avoid feeding or taking pills.

During the four days, kitty never stopped drinking water. Yesterday he
produced urine both in the morning and evening. although it smelled
strong, concentrated. the quantity is large/normal. 

Thanks again for all your help.
li

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: a breaking horror story
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:21:30 GMT


In article <92210.090156HXKPY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, HXKPY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Diana Gregory) writes:
>It was at this point the news announcer said
>that the story was "going to get graphic", and I
>turned off the radio - so I don't know any further
>details.  Any local Bay Area folks who have stronger
>stomachs than I do and wants to provide details,
>please do - just warn me.  All I want to do is
>keep my cats inside, and warn others to do so as
>well.

This is in fact pretty horrible.  It seems to be happening mostly in
and around San Jose, and I doubt if the perps will get close enough to
Berkeley to menace my livestock, but this thing is getting enough media
play that I worry about, pardon the expression, copycat crimes.

The graphic bit is that gur pngf ner orvat cvreprq jvgu n funec bowrpg,
naq gurve onpx yrtf ner orvat obhaq jvgu qhpg gncr.  Rot13 if you really
want to know.  Incidentally, it took one of our local radio news stations
all of 30 seconds to start the inevitable rumor that this is the work
of Satanists.  Charming.

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From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: New Cat Book (humorous)
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:14:26 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Lilian Jackson Braun has a series of mystery books that have 2 felines
as the major characters (with a human).  The are all titled "The Cat
Who...." and are pretty cute.  (A little cheesy at times but cute!)

Joan
-- 
J. C. Maxfield				maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu
DISCLAIMER:  I don't speak for the University, but they often speak for me!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.)
Subject: Aluminum balls Vs. Paper balls  Was: cat toys ideas
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:16:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.232913.20114@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>, ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C De writes...
> 
>Penny is very good about fetching and bringing it back, often dropping
>her foil ball into my hand. However, if I don't throw it far enough,
>preferably bouncing off several things in the process, she won't
>bring it back. She gives me a look that says, "Is that the best you
>can do?"

I used to go the foil route, but developed some concerns about my cat 
accidently eating aluminum bits or somehow getting it in his system. 
I switched to paper balls - just as enticing and I feel better about my 
cat picking those up in his mouth. I could just be paranoid though ...

Mike



Mike McCurdy			"Everything I say may be wrong."	
VAX Systems Management		     	 
San Diego State University	..
mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu
From: sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cats over the phone
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:27:55 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon

In article <1683014F73.C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu> C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:

RE:

> . . . both girls trot right into my bedroom, hop on
>the bed and "watch the mom box" for greetings.
> 
>     I'm telling ya'....if it gets any better than being owned by a
>couple of cats, well they'll just have to declare it illegal!
> 
>Beth
> 

Beth,

Great idea with the answering machine!  Your last sentence says it all!!!

Sal
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA