From: panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio)
Subject: Re: A wittle survey...jus' a wittle wone...
Summary: Laughing and Crying at the Same Time
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 02:10:57 GMT
Distribution: soc.penpals
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Life...Just for the Heck of It!

In article <57001@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> look@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (ken loo) writes:

KL>tells me that it is kind of nice to be able to have creative 
KL>usage of a language fluently, but that does not say anything
KL>about an accent.

Boston: Wheh did you pahk yur cah? (Where did you park...)
Houston: That friggin' sumbitch done stole my Caddy!
Los Angeles: Hey, bonito, I like those hubcaps!
New York: Oh, Sh*t!

(Supply your own Robin Williams monologue)

VP>>(Recalling article in Scientific American about the human visual
VP>>system)

KL>I have never read the article.

Well, I can't quote which issue, because I've forgotten. My main
stack overflowed, so I had to reset, do a core dump, and re-IPL.

*snicker*

VP>> [stuff about how the brain "constructs" reality]
VP>> And I suppose everyone constructs ("sees") differently, hmm....

KL>not to the pt. of total disagreement.  If so, then science
KL>would not possibily exit.  The experimental parts anyways
	 	       ^^^^
Tsk, tsk. You do mean EXIST, don't you? (Intuition at work!) Or,
at least, understanding a word in context ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
					  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
					  Lotsa winks, okay?

Then again, if science did exit, we would have...philosophy!

A group of psychologists was playing golf. They met up with a
group of philosophers, who sneered "Look at those shrinks, trying
to vent their frustrations by whacking a ball." To which the
psychologists replied "At least we don't argue about whether the
ball is really there or not!"

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *chuckle* *wheeze*

KL>I was refering to as in an experimentalists point of view, a law(fact)
KL>is true only when it could be reproducted by others in noncordinated
KL>experiments.

Reproducted. Is that a newfangled sex practice? Tell me more!

			(BAWDY LAUGHTER)

Noncoordinated experiments....let's see...the square peg goes in
the round hole....nope, try again....the Oscar Meyer goes in....

Oh, forget it.... (cheesy grin)

Noncoordinated experiments, ahem. What if "noncoordination" is an
illusion in the "real" universe? For example:

Manager yells at his (female) secretary. She goes home upset and
doesn't have sex with her husband. Husband goes to work grumpy
the next morning, and so he forgets to double-check and tighten a
*crucial* hydraulic fitting on the outboard engine of a 747.
Plane crashes on takeoff, killing 320 people and raising home
insurance rates for the working-class community near airport,
forcing several families to give up their homes. Resulting
dislocation causes juvenile delinquency, divorces, etc...... ;)

Moral of the story: Don't yell at your secretary, you could be
hastening the collapse of Western civilization. *snort* *chuckle*

Not to mention increasing the profitability of insurance firms.

Oh, what the heck...Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :)

KL>facts does not nec. have to be seen.  If you believe in
KL>the sixth sense, it does not even have to be a physical sensation.

I mean, the fact that I do not want *her* to sleep over the wet
spot means I'm a considerate and caring lover, right? ;) ;) ;)
Not to mention intuitive....or would that be sensitive.....?

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah *gasp* *wheeze* *groan*

KL>but that contradicts what I said about experiments in the above.

Well, given that you switch NetGenders, that's hardly surprising.
I mean, if you can't decide if you're Ken, or Kendra, or Kenilyn,
at the very least you have multiple personality disorder, and so
this hypothesis is at least consistent with the empirical
evidence that you seem to contradict yourself a lot, on the net.
I know, I know - correlation is not causation, and this is a
necessary but not a sufficient condition, etc., but anyone who is
ambivalent about gender orientation deserves our understanding.

And I am a VERY understanding person, by the way...Poor Ken(ilyn)

			(Big Evil Smirk)

(For the politically sensitive - that was not meant to be sexist!)

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *ThisIsJustTooMuchForMe!*

KL>a true engineer(or engineering student), if the answer isn
KL>not correct, make up new datas to make it correct.  
			    ^^^^^

"Data" is already plural. No need to overstate your case.
Besides, what would Brent Spiner (Star Trek TNG) say?   :)

KL>multiply by a safty facter of about one million, that way
KL>the bridge will surly not fall down. 
		   ^^^^^
Gee, I didn't know bridges had feelings! Might this be the bridge
over troubled water that Simon and Garfunkel immortalized?

Mwahahahahahahahahahahaha *IGottaStopThisBeforeIt'sTooLate!*

You should read some of the literature on scientific fraud, my
friend. Then we could all publish about Cold Fusion (which is
something only strangers having one-night stands do best)   ;)

KL>how about some Physicists, Mathemticians, and Engineer jokes?

I already made one (see above), well, sort of. Don't tempt me.

KL>a true scientist uses both intuitions and facts(who ever said
KL>that engineers are true scientists!).  

I didn't. Whoever said that being a scientist makes you "true"?
No, I take that back.... What the hell is "true" science, anyway?
Why don't we just make up some arbitrary value for some physical
constants and see where serendipity (and no, I'm not dippy) can
take us? After all, one can visualize the benzene ring as a
circle of writhing snakes (oooohh, been reading too much of
Joesph Campbell, methinks.....gotta get back to Hawking), so
what's wrong with assigning the property "charm" to particles?

KL>yeh really.  My young(old) Jedi, where is your engineering traing?
KL>what ever happened to all the restless nites in lab where
KL>you repeated an experiment over and over again.  Then to take
KL>the average and calculate the "ERROR"!

Then again, we trashed the bomb calorimeter in the morning....

Abort, retry, fail?

*snicker*

KL>so you think you really know much about me?

No, apart from the fact that you make a lot of spelling misteaks.
							^^^^^^^^
					Mine is	deliberate, okay?

KL>oh, really?  As I have said, you know nothing about me.

Well, I know that you have access to the Internet. That means you
live in a city with electricity, a telephone system that actually
works, and time between doing your laundry (I just finished doing
mine) and other chores to share your deep philosophical insights
with the rest of us poor ignorant netdweebs. I also know that you
probably have to change your underwear pretty soon, because of
all the time you've spent sitting down typing away your postings.

*smack* *thud* *whiz* Hey! Where'd all those missiles come from?

(Silly grin)

KL>I only take what I believe is morally right and wrong very seriously.

So do I. But I don't flail MYSELF or anybody about it. Sheesh.
Relax, amigo. Be cool. You can be serious without being solemn,
without being a wet blanket, or a stick in the mud. Chill out.

KL>If I had presented myself otherwise, it was because I am on the defensive
KL>I do not like to be called cynical when there is no basis for it.
KL>None which I see anyways.

Switching NetGenders is not cynical manipulation of the social
realities of the net in order to get more attention? Oh, I must
have missed something back there.... at least I'm still Victor.

KL>Which makes me a poor Christian, and a semi-ok scientist hope to be.

As Mother Teresa said during her Christmas interview (in 1979, I
think it was), "Christian - that's just a name, in a way." As for
being a scientist, all children are born natural scientists, with
an innate curiosity and desire to explore the world around them,
which elementary and high schools kill off for most of those who
have the misfortune to be mangled by ill-conceived curricula.

So, if it's any consolation to you, you're already a Christian
AND a scientist, unless you have reason to feel otherwise. How
good is anybody's guess - certainly not for me to decide. Why not
go ask your pastor and your thesis committee?

VP>>Well, I dunno if you were trying to inject a bit o' levity here

KL>most of the time, I am rather levitated.  as of now, I will
KL>make an exception.  

Levity = mirth, jocularity, good humor, fun, lightheartedness

Levitation = something that Shirley Maclaine preaches about

Glad to see that you're very down-to-earth, Ken.  *snicker*

VP>>Ken, all kidding aside, I'm just being mischievous here, and I'm

KL>you are doing a good job.

Is that a thank you? If it is, well, now, I'm flattered!

(Victor presumes to take a bow before his Net.Audience) *smack*
A flying hail of overripe tomatoes and rotten eggs hits him.....

VP>>I just like to have FUN. And I don't have to switch NetGenders to
VP>>do it, either. Hope you don't think this is at YOUR expense.

KL>my expense at what?  

Well, let's see. Do you have American Express? I mean, you should
never leave home without it, you know, like, furshirr, way cool!

VP>>Or should I call you Kendra?

KL>it is now Kenilyn(as in Tamilyn.  not you Tamilyn, but the
KL>other Tamilyn)

Do YOUR parents know about this? Maybe you should seek more
professional help before taking the next step...it is generally
considered irreversible, apart from the hormone injections....

Seriously, I wouldn't use *that* name.

"Kenilyn" sounds too much like a dog shampoo that kills fleas...

Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *gasp* *choke* *wheeze*

(Victor laughs so hard the tears roll down his cheeks.....)

KL>why are you crying?

Because Ken(ilyn), I laugh so much that the men in white coats are
going to take me away now.......

Furshirr!