From: ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker)
Subject: Re: Bilderberger Victory
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:32:45 GMT


I thought those here curious about the Bilderbergers would appreciate
this discussion from the Prodigy "Arts Club BB" topic=BOOKS, NON-FICTION.

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PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         11/13/92         2:29 AM

         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/09  7:35 AM
TO:      ALL
FROM:    ERIC SAMUELSON   (PSTT84B)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE

 
   The Bilderbergers first met in 1954. Prince Bernard of   
the House of Orange was chairman for the first 22 years or  
so. At one time he came to American and campaigned for      
Gerald Ford when he was running for Congress.               
   The membership list of the Bilderbergers is not public-- 
unlike the CFR and Trilateral Commission. This suggests that
its membership is more powerful and influential.            
   The only newspaper that consistently tracks this group is
the Spotlight. I am not aware of any single sizeable book   
that goes into its history.                                 
   Has anyone seen an up-to-date history on the House of    
Orange that discusses the Royal Dutch Shell Oil Company     
   Prince Bernard has been described as the royal consort to
Queen Juliana-reported to be the richest woman in the       
world.A couple of paragraphs (p. 243-244) on Bilderberger   
members and other hard-to-find insights can be found in     
William Josiah Sutton's THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT AND THE        
ILLUMINATI 666. This book is available from Lewis Associates
P.O. Box 2713, Lake Placid, Flordia 33852.                  
  If there is interest out there, I will take the time to   
type out the names of Bilderberger participants that I have 
collected to date.                                          
                        Eric Samuelson, J.D.                

[several posts urging Eric to post his list deleted]


         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/10 10:33 AM
TO:      PAM MORRIS   (SKJV20A)
FROM:    ERIC SAMUELSON   (PSTT84B)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE
 
Pam:                                                        
    This is a list of some of those, living or deceased,    
who have been identified as participating in a Bilderberger 
meeting at least once between 1954 and the present:         
Acheson, Dean Goodham                                       
Agnelli, Giovanni                                           
Anderson, Robert                                            
Ball, George Wildman                                        
Beatrix, Queen                                              
Berg, Fritz                                                 
Bernard, Prince                                             
Bieusheuval                                                 
Birgi, M. Nuri                                              
Brzezinski, Zbigniew                                        
Buckley, Jr., William Frank                                 
Bundy, McGeorge                                             
Christianson, Hakon                                         
Clinton, William Jefferson ("Bill")                         
Coleman, John S.                                            
Collado, Emilio G.                                          
Commin, Pierre                                              
Cowles, Gardner                                             
d'Estaing, Giscard                                          
Dean, Arthur Hobson                                         
Dewey, Thomas Edmund                                        
Dillon, C. Douglas                                          
Esrey, William T.                                           
Ferguson, John H.                                           
Fitzgerald, Garrett                                         
Foley, Thomas                                               
Ford, Gerald R.                                             
Ford II, Jr., Henry                                         
Fosdick, Raymond B.                                         
Fulbright, J. William                                       
Garde, Jeane de la                                          
Goodpaster, Andrew J.                                       
Graham, Katherine                                           
Grundwald, Henry                                            
Haig, Alexander                                             
Hauge, Gabriel                                              
Healey, Thomas                                              
Heinz II, Henry J.                                          
Herter, Christian                                           
Hesberg, Theodore M.                                        
Hoffman, Paul G.                                            
Hughes, Thomas                                              
Jackson, C.D.                                               
Javits, Jacob                                               
Johnson, Joseph G.                                          
Johnson, Ralph E.                                           
Kennan, George F.                                           
Kissinger, Henry Alfred                                     
Longo, Imbriani                                             
Lord, Winston                                               
Mathias, Charles                                            
McCloy, John J.                                             
McDonald, David J.                                          
McGee, George                                               
McGill, Ralph E.                                            
McNamara, Robert Strange                                    
Menne, Alex W.                                              
Moyers, Bill                                                




         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/10 10:31 AM
TO:      LINDA HITCHINGS   (MFHP99A)
FROM:    ERIC SAMUELSON   (PSTT84B)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE
 
Linda:                                                      
  Here is the second list of those who have been identified 
as attending at least one Bilderberger meeting:             
Murphy, Robert D.                                           
Nebolsine, George                                           
Nitze, Paul H.                                              
Palmer                                                      
Pearson, Lester                                             
Peccei, Aurelio                                             
Price, Don K.                                               
Quayle, Dan                                                 
Retinger, Dr. Joseph H.                                     
Rockefeller, David                                          
Rockefeller, Nelson                                         
Rockefeller IV, John D.                                     
Roll, Sir Eric                                              
Rothschild, Baron Edmond de                                 
Rumor                                                       
Rumsfeld, Donald                                            
Rusk, Dean                                                  
Schlesinger, Jr., Arthur                                    
Schmidt, Helmut                                             
Schweitzer, Pierce Paul                                     
Shultz, George P.                                           
Smith, General Walter Bedell                                
Steele, J.L.S.                                              
Stevenson III, Adlai                                        
Stikker, Dirk U.                                            
Stone, Shepard                                              



         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/10 10:31 AM
TO:      CHARLES COOPER   (SVPS89A)
FROM:    ERIC SAMUELSON   (PSTT84B)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE
 
Chaz:                                                       
  Here is third list:                                       
Sulzberger,Arthur Hays                                      
Sulzberger, C.L.                                            
Thatcher, Margaret                                          
Vance, Cyrus                                                
Volker, Paul                                                
Zeeland, Paul van                                           
Zellerbach, James D.                                        
                                                            
   Unlike the CFR and Trilateral Commission, the membership 
of the Bilderbergers is not easily available to the public. 
Just because an individual attended a meeting, does not     
necessarily mean that they agree with all or even most of   
what is going on.                                           
   It has been my experience, thus far, in looking up the   
biographical information on named individuals, that at least
many are extremely influential on the world scene. I have   
intentionally just listed the names that I have collected to
see if the average participant here can provide details on  
who each person is!                                         
  The Club of Rome is said to be one step above in the power
structure.                                                  
  In the Western hemisphere, it is said the Carnegie-funded 
secret Encuentros Siglo XX is the equivalent...             





         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/10  3:28 PM
TO:      ERIC SAMUELSON   (PSTT84B)
FROM:    DAVID RIEDESEL   (CMDF83A)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE
 
Eric,I'm one of those referred to on the UNITY subject that 
mostly reads these boards but seldom responds simply because
I don't have much to contribute but I am reading daily to   
learn as much as possible.Keep posting gang,there are more  
out there reading these boards than you think.  Eric, I'm   
jumping in here now to add to your list of BILDERBERGERs.   
      Here we go:         >>>>>>>>                          

Paul A. Allaire  chm.  Xerox corp.                          
Dwayne O. Andreas chm. Archer-Daniels-Midland co.           
Lloyd Bensten   US Senator (Texas)                          
James H. Billington  Librarian of Congress                  
John H. Chafee  US Senator (Rhode Is)                       
Kenneth W. Dam   IBM Corp.                                  
Robert A. Day  chm. Trust Company of the West               
Richard M. Furland  dir. Bristol-Meyers Squibb              
David R. Gergen   US News and World Report                  
Karen Elliott House  Dow Jones and Co. Inc.                 
Vernon E. Jordan  partner Akin,Gump,Strauss,Hauer&Feld      
Donald M. Kendall  former chm.&CEO Pepsico Inc.             
Henry R. Kravis    founding partner Kohlberg,Kravis,Roberts 
Philip L. Martin   prof.of agri economics  U of Cal Davis   
Claiborne Pell     US Senator  (Rhode Is.)                  
Rozanne L. Ridgeway Pres. Atlantic Council of the US        
Jack Sheinkman   Pres. Amalg Clothing & Textile Workers Un. 
Sally Shelton  senior fellow Georgetown Un.                 
Robert S. Strauss  US Ambassador to Russian Federation      
John C. Whitehead  chm. AEA Investors Inc. former dep Sec St
Lynn R. Williams   intl Pres. United Steelworkers of America
James D. Wolfensohn pres. James Wolfensohn Inc.             
                                                            
These names that I'm posting were listed as members as of   
the last meeting.I only listed the American members as space
would not allow an entire international listing of members. 
Other countries represented in the membership are Austria,  
Belgium,Canada,Switzerland,Germany,Denmark,Spain,France,    
Great Britain,Greece,Italy,Iceland,Ireland,Norway,Netherland
Portugal,Sweden,Finland and Turkey.                         
                                                            
As you can see,the membership list encompasses a large group
of countries and it is my belief that although some of >>>> 
the countries do not agree with the agenda put forth by this
group they nonetheless must go along or be left out of the  
planning process.Once a country is left out,it would be at a
great disadvantage in regards to future agreements on trade 
and other intl. rules and regulations.                      
                                                            
One more quick note;If one were to analize the list of CFR, 
TC,and BB members one would instantly see the cross listing 
of members and also note that these members are all chosen  
by first being nominated and then voted on by the membership
body. So when you see what positions the members hold it >> 
can't help not to notice that they all hold positions of    
power in various organizations and companies.Almost all the 
different aspects of society are represented in some way by 
the various members.This I believe is in accordance with the
plan of infiltrating and causing internal strife from within
and making it seem we are at war with ourselves.The division
of our ranks is vital to their suceeding in the implementing
of the NWO. If nothing else maybe this list will make every-
one aware of how close the ORDER is to them.Make a note of  
these people and their positions and the next time a major  
intl story breaks,look at whose really behind it.     Dave  



         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/11  7:33 AM
TO:      DAVID RIEDESEL   (CMDF83A)
FROM:    ERIC SAMUELSON   (PSTT84B)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE
 
David,                                                      
  Appreciate your posting to add to the list.               
  In June of 1991, at Baden Baden, Germany, David           
Rockefeller told those in attendance: "We are grateful to   
the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and  
other publications whose directors have attended our        
meetings and respected their promises of discretion for     
almost 40 years...It would have been impossible for us to   
develop OUR PLAN FOR THE WORLD if we had been subject to the
bright light of publicity during those years."              
  Dan Quayle, Vice-President of the U.S., and Bill Clinton, 
future President of the U.S., were both in attendance.      



         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/11  7:50 AM
TO:      DAVID RIEDESEL   (CMDF83A)
FROM:    JUDITH BARNETT   (HKMC94A)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV.--BILDERBE
 
Dave...Thanks for your contribution.                        
   I don't know if I missed something, or not, but does     
anyone notice the countries that DON'T seem to be           
represented?  Where are the current/former `communist block'
countries in the scheme of all this?                        
  Also, one must rememeber that there is still higher       
echelons above the Bilderbergers, i.e. the Committee of 300 
and another group we have yet to get info on called the     
`BACA Group' which Thatcher is a member of.                 
   It is believed that the Committee of 300 are the top     
echelon of the NWO cabal, however the number of members     
seems a bit large for that in my view, but I could be wrong.
   My guess is that there is yet one higher level behind all
this, the creme' de la creme' of the NWO, but with          
membership numbers of around 50 or less.  I would imagine   
that memberships in all of these groups intertwine and/or   
overlap to a great extent.                                  
   One of the best ways to trace the real leaders behind    
this idiocy, is to make of a list of people belonging to two
or more to these organizations/groups.                      
  David, if you have a copy of the World Constitution from  
the WCPA, along with the WCPA membership lists, could you   
possibly compare the WCPA membership lists with those       
attending the Bilderberger meetings to see if there is a    
connection between the two.                                 
  Also, anyone having the complete membership rosters of the
CFR, the TC, the Bilderbergers, the WCPA, and the Committee 
of 300 might want to run a cross check of these memberships 
to see what turns up, and who.                              


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