HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: core dump from grelnotes
Keywords: grelnotes motiv scrollbar cursor-keys
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 17:26:55 BST

There is a problem with grelnotes under 4.0.5.
When viewing a chapter that fits completely into a single window and
pressing the cursor-down key on the keyboard, the grelnotes program
fails with a core dump.

I was viewing the Documentation Errors chapter of the ftn RELnotes.
The error messages were:

Warning: 
    Name: textViewSB
    Class: XmScrollBar
    The specified scrollbar value is less than the minimum
    scrollbar value.
		
[1] + Memory fault(coredump)   grelnotes
albatross$ dbx /usr/sbin/grelnotes
dbx version 2.40 6/5/92 0:57
Type 'help' for help.
Reading symbolic information of `/usr/sbin/grelnotes' . . .

warning: Has no symbol table -- very little is supported without it
		
Process name from core dump: grelnotes
Process died at pc 0xcc12860 of signal : Segmentation fault
[using memory image in core]
(dbx) where
>  0 (0x1001ee98, 0x2800043, 0x4, 0x0, 0xffffffff, 0xffffffff) [0xcc12860]
				
warning: address 0xfffffffc for 4 bytes is not in the core file
						
warning: address 0xfffffffc for 4 bytes is not in the core file
(dbx) quit

albatross$ uname -a
IRIX cscmgb 4.0.5 06151813 IP7
										

Institution: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Hardware:    SGPF 4D/440 (Serial No on request)
Impact:      Not greatly affected
Workaround:  Delete core file, Restart program.
Date found:  Thu October 2, 1992
Reported by: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)


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From: schaumat@rocbi.dnet.roche.com (Thomas Schaumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Question about Tektronix Phaser printers
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:59:29 GMT

David Hinds (dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu) writes:
> My department is planning on getting a color printer soon, and it will
> likely be a Tektronix Phaser II or III.  We will probably be hanging
> it off of one of our SGI workstations, but want to also be able to
> print from our Macintoshes.  We are currently running CAP on some of
> our machines to spool to laserwriters on Appletalk.  I figure it
> should be easy to install the CAP print server on the SGI host to do
> what we want.  Now, I think it would be nice to save the $2000 and get
> the raster version of the Phaser, and let the SGI do the Postscript
> rendering.  However, I don't know if it will still be possible to use
> CAP to spool Postscript from the Macintoshes.  It seems likely, but I
> would like to hear from anyone who has done this, just to make sure.

We have a Tektronix Phaser III installed an can send from MAC, SGI and VAX
directly on it without switching anything.

> Do we lose anything else if we go for the raster version of the printer?
> What about the "TekColor" color matching system?  Is this a significant
> feature?

> Finally, comparing the Phaser II and III, I think we're leaning towards
> the III because of the plain paper capability.  Is it possible to print
> transparencies with the III, or are the dyes totally incompatible?  Is
> there a significant difference in print quality between the II and III?
> How do print speeds and per-page costs compare?

Transparencies are possible, but require special transparencies. They
cost about $2 a piece.

Hope that helps         Tom

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From: andersen@marvin.ama.ttu.edu (Kim Andersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: How can I increase the amount of text pasted?
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:43:03 GMT

I am running xterm on an x-terminal from an Iris.  The maximum number of 
lines it seems to be able to paste between windows is about 8.  I can
highlight as many as I want, but it will only paste the first 8 lines.

Is there something I can set in the xterm options to increase this?

It does this on the Iris screen, too, so it's not just my x-terminal.



Kim Andersen
Crystallography
Harrington Cancer Center
andersen@marvin.ama.ttu.edu
From: portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Displaying video in a window on an SGI machine - how?
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:52:07 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Sep30.001536.21327@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu writes:
> In article <qfab2vc@zola.esd.sgi.com> portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) writes:
>  .. stuff deleted...
> >
> >Currently, the movie tools use a Silicon Graphics proprietary
> >movie format and compression scheme.
> > [...]
> >Playback of movie files on an
> >Indigo R3000 with Entry graphics runs at approximately 15
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >frames/sec for a 320x240 sized frame with a 22Khz mono
> >soundtrack.  A 640x480 sized frame (full-screen NTSC video
> >size) will play back at around 4-6 fps on the same system.
> >
> 
> Is it known to what extent the limitation on "fps's" is due
> to (1) CPU power and/or (2) graphics speed?

I don't really believe that graphics speed is a limiting
factor in this instance.  320x240x15 = 1.15 million pixels/sec,
which is well within the capabilities of lrectwrite() for
both Entry and XS/Elan systems.  For a 640x480 image,
that's 640x480 = 307,200 pixels per frame.  Indigo Entry
is capable of about 10M pixels/sec in RGB mode, so that
works out to an upper limit of 10M / 307,200 = 32.55 fps.
So lrectwrite() is fast enough to handle full-screen NTSC
animation with 24-bit images.  I forget what the specs for
lrectwrite() perfromance on XS/Elan are, but I'm certain
it's not any worse than Entry graphics, and probably a
lot faster.

I haven't had a chance to do extensive testing on an
Indigo R4K system yet (can you guess what machine is at
my desk?), but it's my impression that the real limit
is disk I/O rather than CPU cycles for handling
decompression.  Naturally, faster disks and better
compression schemes (MVC1 is optimized for fast decompression
and good image quality, but not for extremely high
compression ratios) will solve the problem.

> We are wanting for a r4K upgrade for one Indigo and a
> ElanVideo option board. I was planning to put these
> upgrades in different IRIS XS-24's but I wasn't aware
> of the compression/uncompression scheme
> for the movie software.
> 
> What sort of "fps's" should I expect from a r4K Indigo?

Not sure (maybe I really should give it a try sometime),
though the type of graphics board you are using is not the
limiting factor.

--
Michael Portuesi   Silicon Graphics, Inc.   portuesi@sgi.com
From: hendrix@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dane Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Zip installation breaks mailbox, 4.0.1
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:41:38 GMT
Reply-To: hendrix@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dane Hendrix)
Organization: Code 1542, DTMB, Bethesda, MD

Excuse me if this has been discussed before.  You know how it goes-
when you don't have a problem, you don't listen to the answer.

I had been using zip3.3 under 4.0.1.  The only problem with this setup
was that I couldn't copy between zip and xwsh.  Today I got out my
archive of zip (ftp'ed from sgi.com about june 1, version 2.90) and
ran the Install script.  All went well until I tried to run the mailbox
program. Mailbox gives the error:
Mailbox can't connect with file alteration monitor
I also noticed that Shift-I (to iconify) in dog no longer works either.

So give me the news.  Is there a simple fix? Do I need a new version 
of zip?

Dane Hendrix                              | email: dane@wizard.dt.navy.mil 
DTMB (a.k.a. Headquarters, Carderock Div.,|  or hendrix@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Naval Surface Warfare Center)             |  or hendrix@nas.nasa.gov 
Code 1542, Bethesda, MD 20084-5000        | phone: (301)227-1340
From: erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: What happened to XListInputDevices(), etc.?
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:55:37 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

Odd.   Those functions are in libXi.a, but it isn't a new library
so I'm not sure why a compilation would suddenly break.

BTW -- be sure to link in the order:
   -lXi -lXext -lX11_s

-- Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: R4k Indigo memory
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01:44:02 GMT

In <32796@adm.brl.mil> fernholz@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Richard Fernholz) writes:

| Is R4k Indigo memory available from 3rd party vendors at this time or within
| the next three months?

I believe that Kingston and Impediment are both shipping r4k Indigo
memory.  In fact, since they are fairly standard SIMMs, you should 
have less trouble getting it than r3k Indigo memory, which are
custom.
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: cc compiler versions
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:28:55 GMT

In <1992Sep30.003635.27301@dsea.com> lacey@dsea.com (Dan Lacey ) writes:
| I am trying to get Xinet's appletalk software (K-Talk, 
| KSpool, and KShare) to run on an Indigo R4K. Xinet provides
| a kernel driver. 
| When I try to make the kernel, I get an error from ld stating that
| vflush is undefined. The installation software from Xinet
| uses autoconfig to build the kernel. Trying my own build
| produces the same errors. kernel.o gets loaded before the
| Xinet library.
| If I take out the system entry for atalk.a (Xinet), everything
| works. This was working great on 4.0.4.
| 
| R4K Entry Graphics 
| IRIX 4.0.5 F

vflush has disappeared for all r4k systems, it is still present
as an alias for the replacement routines on r3k systems.  The
change was required because of the differences in the way the
caches work on r4000 based systems.  You'll have to get Xinet
to provide you with a new driver; they should be aware of this
by now.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: ib@ivan.esd.sgi.com (Ivan Bach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Why xpsview cann't find Palatino font ?
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:52:48 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In <3022@news.cerf.net> billabs@nic.cerf.net (Bill Romanowski) writes:
> Is there any clever hack to load my Adobe Fonts with (or without)
> the HotMix font installer if I don't have a floppy?
Adobe Type 1 outline font files come in the following two formats:

    1. Readable Type 1 format (printer font ASCII or .pfa files).
    2. Binary Type 1 format (printer font binary or .pfb files).

SGI ships Type 1 outline fonts in a readable format, but we don't use the
file name extension .pfa.  The names of the Type 1 font files shipped by
SGI match the PostScript font names specified in the headers of those files.
IBM PC font diskettes, for example, contain .pfb files.  The IBM rasterizer
for Type 1 font files in the X11R5 version of the X Window System looks for
.pfa and .pfb files.

You can use a text editor to view the outline font files stored in the 
directory /usr/lib/DPS/outline/base.  You will see that Type 1 font files
are actually special-purpose PostScript programs.  

installpcfonts is a script which calls the program unixfont.  Please read
the man page for unixfont that came with installpcfonts and the Typeface
Software End User License Agreement you got with Adobe fonts.  I just logged
in as root, and entered:

    strings fcebo___.pfb | grep FontName

to get the PostScript font name for this font.  I got:

    /FontName /Futura-CondExtraBoldObl def

Then I entered:

    unixfont -o /usr/lib/DPS/outline/base/Futura-CondExtraBoldObl fcebo___.pfb

and I got an additional Type 1 font file stored in the appropriate directory.   
When I ran the PostScript demo program Fontview, the font:
 
    Futura-CondExtraBoldObl

appeared on a list of available outline fonts.  If you need Adobe font metric
(AFM) files, you should store them into the directory /usr/lib/DPS/AFM.

I explained in a previous posting how Type 1 font files can be downloaded to
a PostScript printer.  

Ivan Bach, ib@sgi.com
From: schaumat@rocbi.dnet.roche.com (Thomas Schaumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: 3rd RFD: comp.sys.sgi reorganization
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:24:48 GMT

Matt Wicks (wicks@fnal.fnal.gov) writes (stuff deleted):
(about splitting of comp.sys.sgi)
> - There are two possibilities on how mail addressed to info-iris@brl.mil
>   should be handled.
>   - Proposal 1 is that mail sent to info-iris@brl.mil will be posted to
>     comp.sys.sgi.misc as well as going to the info-iris mailing list. People
>     would be encouraged to not use this address, but instead to use
>     info-iris-<group-name> so the posting went to the correct group.
>   - Proposal 2 is that mail sent to info-iris@brl.mil will be sent only to
>     the info-iris mailing list and not be posted to a newsgroup. If people
>     want the information in a newsgroup then they should get access to news
>     or send it to info-iris-<group-name>.

I prefere proposal 2, since everyone can just post to info-iris-misc.

That the answer come to the right group, the reader of the info-iris mailing
list should informed, from which group the message comes. Is it possible to
include that somehow into the message?

Cheers Tom

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From: dforan@pilot.njin.net (David Foran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Cost of Indigo R3000, R4000
Keywords: SGI Indigo R3000 R4000
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:53:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hello,

Can anyone tell me the approximate cost of an IRIS Indigo R3000
and IRIS Indigo R4000? I am considering a new acquisiton for our
imaging lab.

		Thanks in advance,

		David Foran, Ph.D.
		BioImaging Laboratory
		Robert Wood Johnson Med School
		UMDNJ, Piscataway, NJ
		djf@mirage.umdnj.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: roland@rz.th-ilmenau.de (Roland Schachtschabel)
Subject: problems with spaceball
Reply-To: roland@rz.th-ilmenau.de (Roland Schachtschabel)
Organization: Technische Hochschule Ilmenau
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:39:06 GMT

Hi there,
I would like to know what I've to do to reset the spaceball.
In normal case the spaceball is correctly working - but sometimes the spaceball
didn't work. One (bad) way to reset the spaceball is making logout followed by login. What I'm looking for is an another way to reset the spaceball.
Greetings and thanks in forward,
				Roland.

System: IRIX 4.0 on IRIS-INDIGO
From: rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: setmon
Date: 29 Sep 1992 17:06:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: fangio.asd.sgi.com

rme@stereo.rl.af.mil (Richard M. Evans) writes:
>Where does the setmon(1G) command reside in IRIX 4.0.5?

/usr/gfx/setmon 

...robert
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Drawing editor running under X-windows?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 05 Oct 92 13:43:23 EST

Hi,
We need to make a proposal to a big manufacturer.  I'm looking
for a drawing editor ( E-size ) running under X-Windows on a risc machine.
The system will be able to scan E-size format, to modify and make cut & paste
between pages as well as writing on the page in different fonts.
An automatic translator for the text will be available or integrate.
The system will be able to import CAD drawings.
Does anyone know a solution ?

Thank you for your help

Regards
Christian
From: tpm@ecs.soton.ac.uk (TP Monks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 4D35 doesn't start up automatically...
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:12:54 GMT

I recently swapped my system disk over on my 4D35.
In order to minimise problems, I just removed the old disk and
replaced it with a new one with the same SCSI number, and re-installed
the system from scratch.

Everything works fine, except when I turn the system on it doesn't
come back up automatically, but sticks me into the miniroot after
giving the error:
'/' not a directory.

I can bring the system up by starting the sash by typing 'boot' from
the miniroot, then starting unix from the sash  using:
boot -f dksc(0,1,0)unix

How can I fix this so it comes up automatically again, and what
happened to break it ?

Thanks

Tim 


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From: davis@bedlam.asd.sgi.com (Tom Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: zip 2.91 hangs randomly under IRIX 4.0.4
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:41:58 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bedlam.asd.sgi.com

In article <1229@shrike.com>, flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton) writes:
|>
|> Somebody should give Tom Davis a raise.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Jim Melton, novice guru
|> email:      flash@austin.lockheed.com | "So far as we know, our
|> voice mail: (512) 386-4486            |  computer has never had
|> fax:        (512) 386-4223            |  an undetected error"

Jim Melton is a gentleman and a scholar, and one of the finest
customers SGI has ever had.

  -- Tom Davis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jst@nrcsp1.iar.nrc.ca (Jean-Sebastien Theriault)
Subject: bash / Irix 4.0.5 problem fixed
Originator: jst@nrcsp1.iar.nrc.ca
Organization: National Research Council
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 20:49:37 GMT

-- 
Jean-Sebastien Theriault                    "This is my signature quote"
jst@nrcsp1.iar.nrc.ca                                          -me
From: howardl@koosh.asd.sgi.com (Howard Look)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  OpenGL Printers?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:07:26 GMT
Reply-To: howardl@koosh.asd.sgi.com (Howard Look)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

In article <32912@adm.brl.mil>, blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L.
Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB) writes:
|> 
|>      There are some libraries out there that you can use to dump out
|> PostScript files.  These libraries replace calls to the standard GL
|> routines, they both execute the GL calls AND write out equivallent
PostScript.
|> One library I've used does an ok job, but doesn't do Z-buffering or
clipping.
|> Perhaps there are better ones out there now.
|> 

You might be interested in IRIS Inventor, an object-oriented toolkit
above GL which supports PostScript printing (among many other things).
It actually decomposes the scene into triangles which are properly
sorted and clipped. The resulting PostScript can be sent to a printer or
saved to an EPS file which can be imported into FrameMaker, etc. It also
supports special print effects such as hidden, warped and wobbly lines.

Your local salesperson can give you more information or call Software
Express at 800-800-4SGI.

Howard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: leb@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lee E. Brotzman)
Subject: Re: 3rd RFD: comp.sys.sgi reorganization
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:52:44 GMT

bob@caw2.4950tw.wpafb.af.mil (Bob Plested) writes:
>Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB writes...
>>      Is it easy to automate the addition and deletion of mailing list members?
>I've heard that some folks have determined to build a portable listserv, like
>the ones found on VM machines. This would handily automate the list, and
>the package would not be machine specific. I don't know how far the project
>has gone.

We run the UNIX Listserv program on our Silicon Graphics 4D running IRIX 4.0.1
without problems (other the usual mailing list headaches of occasional bounces,
etc.)  It is available by anon-FTP from cs.bu.edu (128.197.2.1) in directory
pub/listserv.  It is not as good as the VM LISTSERV, but it is a younger
product and it is steadily improving.  I recommend it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu (Peter S. Shenkin)
Subject: OpenGL Printers?
Organization: Dept. of Chem, Barnard College, Columbia U, New York
Originator: shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:17:05 GMT
X-Posted-From: avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I'm wondering if it would be possible to devise an interpretive
languge which would do for the printing of 3D images what PostScript
did for the printing of 2D images.

Right now, all techniques that I am aware of for printing a 3D image
involve passing a bitmap -- embedded in PostScript or in some other
protocol -- to a printer. This results in huge files (especially for
PostScript), and restricts the output to the resolution of the device
from which the image was captured (eg, the screen), rather than to the
intrinsic resolution of the ouput device (ie, the printer), unless I
misunderstand.

There is no reason that OpenGL could not be ported to a printer. If
one then had an ascii language that describes a 3D scene and that maps
onto OpenGL, one could pass the scene description to the printer in
concise ascii form, and it would render to the full resolution of the
printer.

Is such a thing possible?

Even without an intermediate ascii file, it would be an advance for
OpenGL to be ported to printers, it seems to me. By rendering directly
to the printer, one could take advantage of whatever resolution and
other features the printer had.

	-P.
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