HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer's strength.
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:17:37 GMT
Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.

In article <1992Nov11.000007.22918@math.utexas.edu>
epstein@rene.ma.utexas.edu (Paul Epstein) writes:

>A   B.C.F rating performance is calculated by awarding yourself your opponents
>grade + 50 if you win, your opponent's grade -50 if you lose and your
>opponent's grade if you draw.  These results are then averaged.

Equivalently, and sometimes more conveniently:

	new grade = average of opponents' grades + (% score - 50)

The term in parentheses would be multiplied by 8 for FIDE/USCF ratings.

>Obviously this procedure is anomalous if the rating difference is greater than
>50 B.C.F points, and I'm not sure what then occurs.

	Any difference greater than 40 is treated as though it was 40.
In real life it doesn't happen very often -- I don't think I've *ever*
played anyone graded more than 40 points higher than me, and only about
once per year on average someone graded 40+ points lower.  [The way I'm
playing this season, though, that may all change *next* season! :-(]

>The point is that after converting and doing the calculations B.C.F style,
>we get a rating performance for Fischer of 2583 FIDE (assuming Spassky's
>rating of 2550.)

	I make it 2617, which seems to be in line with other estimates of
how well Fischer did in the match, and to confirm him as [on this evidence
alone] a strong grandmaster but not a serious competitor at the very top.

-- 
Andy Walker, Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
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From: cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CUFFELL TIMOTHY MICH)
Subject: Re: F-S II Scores of Games 25-30
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:16:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.161213.28662@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> gls@windmill.ATT.COM (I am not Harry Palmer) writes:
>A bang-up finish for the World Championship of Smythescript!  Keep on
>smything, and we'll all return in 2012 for ... FISCHER--SPASSKY III!
>
>
>  Game 25      Game 26      Game 27      Game 28      Game 29      Game 30    
>Bobby Boris  Boris Bobby  Bobby Boris  Boris Bobby  Bobby Boris  Boris Bobby  
>F     N      A     7XXI   F     F      A     7XXI   F     F      A     7XXI
>7XN   7XS    N     N      7XXU  7XS    N     S-     7XXU  7XS    N     S-
>7XXT  A-     A     A      34    T-     7XN   31     34    T-     7XN   31
>A     NK     7XN   S-     3E    A      F     A-     3A    7XI    F     A-
>7J    F-     F     3XX1   4     I-     I-    4      4     31     I-    4
>3E2   7XI    3C2   4      A     F      3E2   7XS    5     U      3E2   7XS
>8H1   3A     7XXU  34     7J    N      7XXT  T-     3Z    A-     7XXT  T-

[Stuff mercifully deleted]

In case you haven't heard, the secret to Smythe has been exposed to the rec.
games.chess world in its gut wrenching fullest.

If you still feel the need to be all cryptic and mysterious, I'll let you
know when I finish my new and improved and impossibly less useful than
Smythescript notation, based on phrenology and the Taylor series.
-- 

-Tim Cuffel
From: fry@zariski.harvard.edu (David Fry)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: F-S II game 30 moves 1-19
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:01:12 GMT
Organization: Harvard Math Department


As of 17:24 GMT
   (King's Indian Defense, Samisch Variation)
   Spassky Fischer
   (White) (Black)
   1. d4 Nf6
   2. c4 g6
   3. Nc3 Bg7
   4. e4 d6
   5. f3 0-0
   6. Be3 Nc6
   7. Nge2 a6
   8. h4 h5
   9. Nc1 Nd7
   10. Nb3 a5
   11. a4 Nb4
   12. Be2 b6
   13. g4 hxg4
   14. fxg4 c5
   15. h5 cxd4
   16. Nxd4 Nc5
   17. Nd5 Bb7
   18. Nf5 gxf5
   19. gxf5 Bxd5
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hahndel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stefan Hahndel)
Subject: Re:    Mephisto vs. LACHEX (Underpromotion)
Originator: hahndel@sunradig2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:03:06 GMT


Can anyone post the other results of the 22d CACM as soon as possible/available ?
Stefan
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: funky pairings
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:39:47 GMT

In <1992Nov11.191906.411@cis.uab.edu> sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan) writes:

>Well - as previously, and often, noted:  Swiss system tournaments are
>not particularly good at determining class prizes.  Even in a larger
>tournament, the players not at the very top, nor the very bottom, tend
>to oscillate between being paired up and down.  Whether you win the
>class prize or not is often determined by which phase you happen to hit
>in the last round.

I agree. In the last two tournaments in which I played, I was tied with 
another player going into the last round. Both of us were paired up against
much higher rated opponents. [In both tournaments, we wound up tying as we
both lost.]

What would be interesting is to have a tournament with standard pairings
up until the last round and match the contenders in each class against each
other. Otherwise, you wind up circling each other's boards like vultures.

Paul

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: quam@moby.cs.ucla.edu (David Quam)
Subject: Re: ****ALEKHINE'S DEATH****
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 01:08:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.193045.4746@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ctepedel@nyx.cs.du.edu (cihan tepedelenlioglu) writes:
>	Does anyone know the reason of Alekhine's death.?(brief question)
>


Possibly C2H5OH ...
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: CNY Chess Tourney!
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: bill@myope.cvs.rochester.edu (Bill Vaughn)
Subject: Re: Why I Hate the ICS rating system.
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:51:41 GMT

In article <palane.720890436@pv7412.vincent.iastate.edu> palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane) writes:
>I'm surprised that the provisional rating is 1000. Why not adopt a system
>similar to the USCF where your rating is the average opponent's rating for
>the first n games +400*(W-L)/n?

Why not adopt a system where the provisonal rating is the current average rating.

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: carabalo@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David G. Caraballo)
Subject: Re: Should women's tournaments exist?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:50:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.010734.20321@math.utexas.edu> epstein@rene.ma.utexas.edu (Paul Epstein) writes:
>This is an important question which I haven't seen discussed in this group.
>My opinion is that they perpetuate the harmful and untrue notion that
>women can't compete with men on equal terms, and that they prevent more
>women from being world class chess players by encouraging them to play against
>each other rather than against the world's best.
>Significantly, the best women seem to have consistently avoided women's
>competitions.

I'm pretty new to chess, and I had not heard about Women's tournaments until
a couple of months ago.  (I saw my first issue of Chess Life.)  I was
completely stunned that they exist.  What exactly is it about chess that 
makes one gender better than another at it?  (Rhetorical question)

I discussed the issue with friends, who were equally surprised, and they had
a few sarcastic (do not take these seriously!!) suggestions.  One friend
(female) suggested that maybe the pieces and board are better color-
coordinated in the women's tournaments.

Seriously, the attitude that produced such tournaments in the first place has 
far worse repurcussions all over academia (and beyond), but it looks like
things are improving, and I doubt that "women's tournaments" will be around
for much longer, except maybe for historical reasons.

Certainly, the Polgars have done a great deal to shatter the myth that women
cannot compete with first-rate male grandmasters, and I'm glad some top
women chessplayers are avoiding women's tournaments.  Yet this is part of
a societal problem (all over the world) much bigger than chess.

>Is anybody prepared to defend the continued existence of the women's world
>championship cycle and other women's competitions?

I'm not.  What will they think of next, tournaments for women and
"minorities"?

>I get the impression that they are being phased out, and  I think that the 
>continued success of Judit Polgar will accelerate this process.

I hope so.

DGC
From: lee.matheson@synapse.org (Lee Matheson) 
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: F-S II match - moves
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: lee.matheson@synapse.org (Lee Matheson) 

To:  rec.games.chess
From: lee.matheson@synapse.org (Lee Matheson)
Reply-To: fry@zariski.harvard.edu (David Fry)

DF>Fischer finally won his 10th game today to clinch his rematch with
DF>Spassky.  It was another Samisch KID, but Fischer got a tactical
DF>counter-attack going and won quickly.  It's not immediately clear to
DF>me if Spassky sacrificed a piece unwisely or was forced to do so to
DF>avoid an even worse fate.


David,

Thanks for all the postings throughout this match.  I greatly
appreciate the postings here, and on the FTP site at Harvard.
You became part of my life for the past couple of months and it
was most appreciated.

Lee Matheson, Ottawa
---
 . OLX 2.1 TD . Yeh, yeh ... once a hobby, now an expensive addiction!
From: kvdoel@cs.ubc.ca (Kees van den Doel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Results of Ratings Survey...
Date: 6 Nov 1992 00:37:24 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.ubc.ca


In article <1992Nov6.072638.4110@pony.Ingres.COM> jrb@Ingres.COM (John Black) writes:
>
>Survey results follow.  First I'll show you the game again; (...)
>One person thought he might have recognized the game as Lasker vs.
>Capablanca;

I confess, that was me. It's been a long time that I studied games seriously,
but I do remember playing over a very famous Lasker game where he had white
and plays the Bird opening (1.f4..., or by transposition, I forget) and wins
in great  attacking style involving a double bishop sacrifice. This game
reminded me of that.
If someone reading this knows the game please let me know, just so that
I know that I am not hallucinating!

--Kees
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: chinch@cs.cornell.edu (Shirish Chinchalkar)
Subject: Re: ICS Ratings -- Average Ratings -- Provisional Ratings
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:31:57 GMT

The reason for deflation of ICS ratings goes beyond introduction of new
players into the system. IN THE ABSENSE OF NEW PLAYERS, the ICS ratings
will STILL drop to 0. I have mailed the following to the ICS admins, but
have not received any response yet. I would like to know if my reasoning
is correct or not.

The bug is in not using a temporary variable when doing integer operations
in the file ratings.c in the IRS code.

The reason this drop was not so prominent earlier is that there was a ratings
floor and because very few games were played before the FS-2 boom.

  Shirish.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

  It is often the case on ICS that when A beats B, A's rating increases by
x points and B's rating drops by x+1 points. This reduces the total number
of points in the pool by 1. At the rate of 1000 games per day and 1000
registered players, the average rating is expected to drop at the rate of
about 1 per day, which is indeed the case.

  Example:

matt     (1540) paar     (1381) White  valkyries.andrew.cmu.edu Wed Nov 11 09:55
:26 1992

Statistics for matt:
Standard : 1549         Blitz : 1391

Statistics for paar:
Standard : 1371         Blitz : 1161

So matt's rating increased by 9 points and paar's rating dropped by 10 points.

  Consider the following fragment of irs code:

            deltaR = bOrigRating - wOrigRating;
            expectedWins = 1.0 / (pow(10.0, (deltaR / 400.0)) + 1.0);
            *wr = wOrigRating + (K * (wWin - expectedWins));

            deltaR = wOrigRating - bOrigRating;
            expectedWins = 1.0 / (pow(10.0, (deltaR / 400.0)) + 1.0);
            *br = bOrigRating + (K * (bWin - expectedWins));

"wWin - expectedWins" is equal in magnitude to "bWin - expectedWin".
Since ratings are integral quantities, for the above example, you get:

            *wr = 1540 + 32*(1 - 0.714)
                = 1540 + 9.149

            *br = 1381 + 32*(0 - 0.286)
                = 1381 - 9.149

  Now, in integral arithmetic, 1540 + 9.149 = 1540 + 9, but
1381 - 9.149 = 1341 - 10.

  This problem can be eliminated by truncating *first* before updating
the ratings:

            int t;

            deltaR = bOrigRating - wOrigRating;
            expectedWins = 1.0 / (pow(10.0, (deltaR / 400.0)) + 1.0);
            t = K * (wWin - expectedWins);
            *wr = wOrigRating + t;

            deltaR = wOrigRating - bOrigRating;
            expectedWins = 1.0 / (pow(10.0, (deltaR / 400.0)) + 1.0);
            t = K * (bWin - expectedWins);
            *br = bOrigRating + t;
From: clare@bissun.kodak.com (Bill Clare)
Subject: Thanks for the info on chess notation
Originator: clare@bissun
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:23:38 GMT


I sent mail messages to all who mailed me with information about algebraic
notation, but I'd just like to post a thanks to all who responded to
the group.  I received many responses. Thank you.


billc
-- 
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m/c 35424 --  901 Elmgrove Road              Phone:    (716) 726-7421
Rochester, New York 14653-5424
Any opinions expressed herein belong to me and not to my employer.
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jhl28500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jae Hyung Lim)
Subject: Searching for Bobby Fischer
Summary: movie based on the book by Fred Waitzkin coming out in early 1993
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:18:51 GMT
Keywords: movie, chess, waitzkin, bobby fischer


Hi,

Just saw today on television about a new movie coming out based on the book
_Searching_for_Bobby_Fischer_ by Fred Waitzkin.  I know that the fellow
playing Josh is not primarily a professional actor, and that he plays chess,
but know little else (who stars etc.)  If anyone has information about this
I was wondering if they could post it here.

thanks

jae lim (jhl28500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Schedule for 1992 US Championship?
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:02:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Nov12.200226.14958
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Is the Championship going to be the real format, or another knockout
tournament?  And if it's a knockout tournament, how are they going to
select the qualifiers for the Interzonal?

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
From: sharring@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Why I Hate the ICS rating system.
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:14:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Nov5.061400.5121
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University


Who cares whether the ICS ratings are lower than uscf/fide? What
difference does it make? I could care less myself. Just map them
over. It seems that 1700 ~= master, 2000~= senior master, etc...
What's the big deal? Just like everyone else, my rating on ICS is
much lower than my uscf, but I could care less. Chess is chess and
the stronger players rise to the top whether the top is 2100 or 2600.
A rose by any other name would still play like a rose...


--steve harrington 
--ICS:cowboy  
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: af1@ra.msstate.edu (Alex Foo)
Subject: Will there be a tournament in Singapore end of this yr.?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:15:21 GMT

Dear Chess Friends,
   I wonder if you all could tell me whether there will be any Chess Tournament
in Singapore end of this year.  I am going back to Johor Bahru this Dec. and
I plan to participate in any Chess Tournament held around there.
   Thank you,

Alex Foo - Life is never complete without CHESS






Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan)
Subject: Re: Why I Hate the ICS rating system.
Organization: CIS, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:56:45 GMT

In article <baljeual.721071691@uther> baljeual@uther.calvin.edu (Alan Baljeu) writes:
>sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan) writes:
>
>>What are the *goals* of the ICS system?  Is the intent to match USCF
>>ratings?  Player-by-player (for those with ratings in each system)?
>>Statistically? How detailed?  Mean and std dev?
>
>If you ask me, I think a good goal is to have a player of constant strength
>have a constant rating.  Then a person can tell if (s)he is improving,
>staying the same, or going senile.  Other than that, it doesn't really matter
>to me.
>

Good.  That's a reasonable goal.  Now - do you have any ideas on how to
achieve that goal?  I don't.
-- 
Kenneth Sloan                   Computer and Information Sciences
sloan@cis.uab.edu               University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213                  115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station 
(205) 934-5473 FAX              Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
From: BRYAN@wvnvm.wvnet.edu (Jerry Bryan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Mephisto vs. LACHEX (Underpromotion)
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:38:19 GMT

CACM, November 1992, The 22d Annual ACM International Computer
Chess Championship, Danny Kopec, Monty Newborn, Mike Valvo

1.  e4    e5
2.  Nf3   Nc6
3.  Bb5   a6
4.  Ba4   Nf6
5.  O-O   Nxe4
6.  d4    b5
7.  Bb3   d5
8.  dxe5  Be6
9.  Nbd2  Nc5
10. c3    d4
11. Bxe6  Nxe6
12. cxd4  Ncxd4
13. Ne4   Be7
14. Be3   Nf5
15. Qc2   O-O
16. Nf6+  Bxf6
17. Qxf5  Be7
18. Rfd1  Qc8
19. Rd2   c5
20. Rad1  Qc6
21. b3    Rad8
22. h3    c4
23. bxc4  bxc4
24. Nd4   Nxd4
25. Rxd4  c3
26. Rc1   Ba3
27. Rc2   Bb2
28. Qe4   Qe6
29. Ra4   Rd1+
30. Kh2   Rfd8
31. Rc4   Rc8
32. Rxc8+ Qxc8
33. a4    Ra1
34. Bb6   Qe8
35. a5    Ra4
36. Qd5   Rb4
37. Qd6   Rc4
38. Kg1   h6
39. Qd3   Ra4
40. Qd6   Re4
41. Bc7   Re1+
42. Kh2   Qc8
43. Qb6   Qf5
44. Qb8+  Kh7
45. e6    Qxc2
46. exf7  Ba3
47. Qg8+  Kg6        [47.Bd6 Rh1+ 48.Kxh1 Qd1+ 49.Kh2 Bxd6+]
48. Qe8   Qe4        [48...Rxe8 49.fxe8Q+ Kh7]
49. f8N+  Kf6      (the underpromotion)
50. Nd7+  Kg5  1-0

(I hope there are no typos)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mad4@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Maddex)
Subject: Re: Fischer-Polgar Match
Reply-To: mad4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Pranksters for Peace
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:23:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.171031.22537@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>----------------
>
>In article <1992Nov06.020928.5446@crash>, uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun) writes:

>|> But how well would Fischer have done against Polgar when he
>|> was 16?? 

>  Not too well - Polgar wasn't born yet! ;-)

When he was 16 Fischer was easily in the top ten in the world, which at the 
time included such patzers as Tal, Botwinnik, Keres and Smyslov.  If you 
believe that players now are genuinely better than players thirty years ago
you might say there are thirty people this good now, but Judit Polgar clearly
isn't one of them.

>|> She should keep improving, given her age.
>
>  Indeed!
>
>
>-Ron Birnbaum

MADNESS
From: dab1+@pitt.edu (Darrin Bond)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer - Polgar/Kasparov update
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:54:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1du7buINNsdm@news.aero.org> jordan@aero.org (Larry M. Jordan) writes:
>>Kasparov said Fischer needs to adjust to the new developments in 
>>chess in the last 20 years.
>
>What, pray tell, are these 'new developments'?
>
>--Larry %)


   Those new developments are the Kasparov Rules: You know. That's where
garry plays the lesser talented GM's for $3m. The dough talks. Fischer
commands more dough. If it was'nt for garry demanding the Kasparov Rules
we would have a great championship. But now all we have is garry v.
limpness. Let's face it Timman and Short don't measure up. Garry should
stand up challenge Fischer and settle it. As Al Davis would say it ....
   Just play baby! 
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: Fischer-Polgar NOT (yet)
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:26:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.205536.16548@midway.uchicago.edu> schiller@sapir.uchicago.edu writes:
>This is hearsay (I got if from a friend who got it directly from
>one of the putative participants):
>
>There is no definite arrangement for A Fischer-Polgar match.
>There is no contract for a Fischer-Polgar match.
>There is no site for a Fischer-Polgar match.
>There is no date for a Fischer-Polgar match.
>

Could it be that the negotiations broke down because Fischer required that
Judith play nude?   :-)

	Sven
From: dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: thank you, Ron Henry
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:36:19 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

Ron,

Your comments were well thought out and well argued. It's about
time somebody stood up for the quality of play of FSII. I, for
one, am sick and tired of jealous GM and IM bashing Fischer and
Spassky.

If they're so damn good, why don't they try playing an extended
match under the same conditions....better still, why don't they
first do like Fischer and Spassky and *EARN* the right to compete
in such match with a lifetime of high quality chess.

don wedding
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: price@crc.ac.uk (Mr. P.M. Rice)
Subject: Re: Alekhine's death
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:40:17 GMT

Details are in Pablo Moran's book "Agony of a chess genius"

Alekhine died alone in his room, and an autopsy was performed.
He died of asphyxia caused by a 3 inch long piece of meat which was lodged in
his larynx. He died in the night of 23-24 March 1946 (his tomb in Paris
has the wrong date). in a hotel in Estoril, Portugal.

He had been ill for some time, and had apparently suffered
heart attacks, but the usual belief that he
died of a heart attack is wrong. There was no suggestion that
alcohol was directly involved. In his later
years he often ate without a knife or fork - but not
on formal occasions.

Peter Rice
price@crc.ac.uk
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