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Also on "Lionheart" in the song "Coffee Homeground" some german words appear:
  "Schnitzel, wunderbar"  ("Schnitzel, wonderfull")
and, as I believe, in a broad german sounding accent:
  "Steak, oh" (spoken somewhat like "Shdeag, ohh").
My dictionary says "Schnitzel" is "veal cutlet". "Schnitzel" is in germany
almost synonymous with "Wiener Schnitzel" (bread-crumbed). The most
germans like Schnitzel very much, and especialy children. But why
theese words in the song have been put into german, I have no hunch.
Does anybody know something about how well kate speaks german ?


Postscriptum:
My last posting contained 2 little mistakies:
1. spelling: wrong: "giebt" right: "gibt".
2. translation: almost: "you (pl.) will" precise: "you (pl.) can".
(if someone cares...)


Another more or less similar subject:
Who knows what the backward words at the end of "sat in your lap"
on "The Dreaming" say ?


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<hi jill!>

But speaking of acts that have used Kate to further their careers, I
happened to notice tonight at my local 7-11 the October issue of _DJ Times_.
The cover noted an interview with the Utah Saints, so I went into Kate Scan
Mode, and read a quote from band member Tim Garbutt (I may misremember his
name) regarding liberal use of sampling by groups of other's works.  The
interviewer asked why they used the Kate Bush sample in their recent big 
song.  Here's what Garbutt had to say to that: 

"By using Kate Bush samples, we're getting a nice cross-section of people
 buying our ravers." 

Wow, what a really deeep answer...  I had occasion to hear this thing the 
other day, and I must confess that I do not intend to become a part of this
cross-section.  :-)  Gawd, some of the stuff that makes it these days...

Larry (L-H@cup.portal.COM)

(oh yeah, I will say that the cover pic of Tori on _BAM_ is quite lovely.
 I'm sure that this would be a welcomed addition to a true Tori fan's 
 collection.  I could not say if this shot has appeared elsewhere, however.
 Hurry up and get it while it's free though, before IGG snarfs them up for
 sale-hee hee..)
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What do the background words in "Leave it Open" really say?
How about "Paul is dead, I buried Paul?" :)


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I just picked up "Angels on Earth" yesterday. I have a couple questions 
about it. "Them Heavy People" and "Here Comes the Flood" have different
intros.  I was wondering if they appear anywhere else.


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comfort." Jillian and James T. Kirk - "Star Trek - Debt of Honour"
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From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
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Good song, but the lyrics confuse me.


What does she mean by: 
 
  If I only could, 
  I'd make a deal with God, 
  and get him to slap our faces.

?


Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.


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> Just a few questions regarding "Another Day":

> Who wrote it?
> When and where was it performed?

> Thanks!

Roy Harper wrote the song and originally performed it.  It is on one
of his albums (*Fast, Baroque, and Ugly*? I don't recall right now the
exact title.)  Several people have covered it, including Kate Bush and
Peter Gabriel, who performed a duet version of it on Kate's Xmas
special in 1979.  The 4AD supergroup This Mortal Coil also covered it
on the album *It'll End in Tears*, Liz Frazer doing the vocals.

|>oug
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:51:19 -0400
From: wilt@solace.hsh.se (Gustav Holmberg)
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She's overrated, she's beginning to look like Joan Collins,
her songs have nothing to do with her life at all but are there
just to make her fans to think that they know her, she releases records
twice a century and she sings like a pig just about to be castrated.
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REGARDING                stuck pigs and soft drinks
people:

>somewhere, sometime Gustav Holmberg didn't say:

>> ... and she sings like a pig just about to be castrated.

Ah, yes, those were the days! Too bad she'll never sing that way again :-(
but I guess we lost that wondrous voice to cigarettes and age...

> somewhere else, someone else said something about:

>> "Night of the Swallow"
>> Is this Freudian or what?

Hmmm, has he not read of the "Nice to Swallow" debate?

to'c

--
"A typical long haired half mad computer programmer on a typical computer
keyboard with odd toys scattered liberally about."



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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:15:01 -0400
From: stev0@sti.com (Steve Berlin)
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In article <9210012303.AA05960@lambda.uleth.ca> finley@lambda.uleth.ca (Kent Finley) writes:
>Hi, y'all.
>
>Anyway, the show comes on, they announce themselves and the fact that
>they're new at this, so it'll probably be a little rusty.  Sure enough,
>the first song they announce is "Under the Ivy".  The only problem is
>IT'S PLAYING AT 33RPM INSTEAD OF 45!!!  After an agonizing half-minute
>or so, while I'm trying to find the phone number for the station--I
>didn't know if they thought that's what she was SUPPOSED to sound like--
>suddenly the song's at normal speed, and I hear "Sorry about that, Kent"
>voiced over!  
>
>
Rumor has it that the vocals for Wuthering Heights on That 'Ol Story are
just the vocals from The Kick Inside-era 45 being played at 33.

- Stev0 the product of eons of evolution

"Kate Bush will NOT release an album in 1993"   
- Prediction from Weekly World News
-- 
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From: inchanak@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Smith)
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Subject: Cathy demos
Date: 24 Sep 92 07:37:25 GMT
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I saw a Kate Bush 7" in the record shop the other day labeled "Cathy Demos",
and since it looked somewhat uncommon and I'm reasonably fond of Kate Bush,
I bought it.  However, I'm not very familiar with her discography, and I
was wondering what exactly this is, since it doesn't appear to be terribly
official.  Also, it is marked "volume 3", so I was wondering just how many 
other volumes there are.  I'm rather new to this group, so please excuse if
these are oft-asked questions.

Inchan Kwon
inchanak@leland.stanford.edu
  
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:57:17 -0400
From: MTARR@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
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Hi!
 
This talk of musical media of the future prompts me to point you
all to the latest issue of Discover magazine again, even the same
page as the Peter Gabriel tidbit I mentioned last week.
 
The winner of the 1992 Discover Award for Technological
Innovation, Sound Division, is Katsuaki Tsuruchima of Sony for
the recordable compact disc.  (Tod Machover of the MIT Media Lab
got honorable mention for his work with "Hyperinstruments" such
as the percussion systems tested by Peter Gabriel.) The discs
(MDs) look like 3.5'' computer diskettes, except they're thicker.
To make them recordable some output fidelity had to be
sacrificed, but they say only someone with a *very* finicky ear
could pick it up.  They compressed the data stored on the disc by
getting rid of all unnecessary sound components, i.e. when a tuba
and a triangle play at the same time you can only hear the tuba,
so they omit the triangle and you never miss it.  To make them recordable they
are made out of a cobalt alloy instead of aluminum, and the laser heats up
the layer instead of popping
holes into the aluminum.  The laser still reads the spots, but
they were created in a different way.
 
All thoughts of oxidization and deterioration aside, this sounds
like a pretty good deal, even though the system now starts at $800 (ouch).
 
(On a KaTe-related note, the backwards line mentioned recently
can't belong to "Sat In Your Lap", because there isn't one in
that song.  You must be talking about the "We let the weirdness
in" at the end of "Leave It Open".)
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:34:14 -0400
From: PMANCHESTER@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Peter Byrne Manchester)
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Subject: First HOMEGROUND post!
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       There!  In the midst of all the murk and doldrums, a truly mighty 
event in gaffa/love-hounds:  HOMEGROUND in the person of Peter FitzGerald- 
Morris posts here!

       To Peter and everyone at HOMEGROUND, welcome, and to Richard and 
Melissa and The Big Sky bbs, many thanks for the facilitation.  Now anything 
is possible.  ANYTHING--even an album!?!  Wish IED were here for the 
occasion....

...........................................................................
                                                            Peter Manchester
"C'mon, we all sing!"                               pmanches@sbccmail.bitnet
                                               pmanchester@ccmail.sunysb.edu

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From: REWOICC%ERENJ.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (woj)
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picked up a few cds today that some of you folks might be interested in
hearing about...

bel canto - _shimmering, warm & bright_

as others have mentioned, this is finally available domestically in the
unitd states. after one listen, i'm fairly pleased with it. it follows the
synthesizer vein that _birds of passage_ established, but there is more
emphasis placed on creating a rhythmic sound. i would hesitate to call
it "dancy", as etheriel is still the operative word in describing their
sound, but there are some specific sounds that i usually associate with
dance music rather than the blissed-out stuff that bel canto produces.
end result: an extension of the sound of the last album with a resurgance
of strong rhythms that were more apparent on _white out conditions_. i
rather like it. one thumb up.

robin holcomb - _rockabye_

the second album from this downtown new york city composer features much
of the same band as the debut (husband wayne horowitz, doug weiselman, bill
frisell) as well as a few new faces (marty erlich, and guest appearances
by peter holsapple and peter ostroushko). in a sentence, _rockabye_ is
poetry delivered in holcomb's deadpan, but delicate, singsong with music
ranging from country to nyc-jazz lite. it has its moments and for those,
it is worth it...but there are some bits that i could do without (like the
toned-down pseudo-noise chaos interlude in i-forgot-which-tune). holcomb's
voice is not for everybody either. i know that i like the album, but not
as much as i liked the last one (and certainly not as much as i like seeing
her live). one thumb up with reservations.

cowboy junkies - _live_

i don't recall seeing any mention of this four song live ep, but i saw it
and grabbed it anyways. features "this street, that man, this life", "if
you were the woman and i were the man", "hot burrito no. 1" and (you guessed
it) "sweet jane". the recording is crystaline, the performance is quite
good...and this rendition of "sweet jane" is very likely the most rocking
the junkies have ever been to date. if you wished that margo and michael
timmins took some speed before the next time that you gave them a chance,
this might be it (though i should add that speed would not affect their
music like it might affect, say, the sex pistols). one thumb up for the
music, one thumb down cos it's too damn short.

woj
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In article <1992Sep26.174914.4732@solace.hsh.se>, wilt@solace.hsh.se (Gustav Holmberg) writes:

>She's overrated, she's beginning to look like Joan Collins,
>her songs have nothing to do with her life at all but are there
>just to make her fans to think that they know her, she releases records
>twice a century and she sings like a pig just about to be castrated.

Oh wow. What a Real Man (tm). He's so tough he insults Kate Bush on the Kate
Bush newsgroup. I bet he's anxiously awaiting all the attention he'll get as
his mailbox is flooded with letters bearing slight variations on "come here
and say that, you!" He likes being a bad boy so much, everyone looks at him and
makes him feel for 2 seconds that they care about what he has to say.

Of course, this post might be forged. In which case I'd advise Gustav to
throttle the forger. If it's not, however, I'd advise him to get a life.
--
Anthony Hobbs             the Bard                hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    
OverPope, First Holy Reformed Church of Snack Food - Kate Bush Is Goddess
Buy the new Roger Waters album. Or not, if you don't like him. Who cares?
DISCLAIMER: I am not Romanian and was not head of the Securitate for 15 years.
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Just a quick post test and a recommendation:

You may want to check out the Cincinnati band OVER THE RHINE - 
especially Innocence Mission fans.  I believe they have one minor
label release and a recent "major" label release.  

					Have fun, Joel
					treadway@mps.ohio-state.edu
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:40:28 -0400
From: j-dunphy@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Insolvent One)
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Hi all!!!

Check out the back cover of the latest CD by Pam Tillis (in the country
music section).  We put her CD next to Kate's _The Whole Story_ with a 
little sign that says "separated at birth?" in the record store I work in.

:)



--

Julianne Dunphy
j-dunphy@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

				"He said, 'what's the source of this fear
				 in you?'  I said, 'I don't know, but I
				 suppose you do.'"

				   --Area, "Brave Parade"

-- 



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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:31:37 -0400
From: john@tessi.com (John Zimmer)
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Subject: Hello HOMEGROUND!
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Just wanted to give a hearty welcome to Peter, Krys, Dave and Sharon at 
Homeground Towers; nice to have you here!  I for one am looking forward to 
your contributions.


_____________________________________________________________
John Zimmer                                    john@tessi.com

        Irgendwo in der Tiefe gibt es ein Licht!
_____________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:52:53 -0400
From: nrc@cbemf.att.com (Neal R Caldwell, Ii)
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From article <9209301657.AA29742@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>, by "Daniel S. Riley" <dsr@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>:

> 	 "Maybe, leastways is the best way of all" -Caterwaul

Speaking of which, has anyone heard a status report on Caterwaul
recently?  Last I heard they had some prospects for a new record deal
but that was quite some time ago.  

I was finally able to get a copy of their first, _The Nature of Things_.  
I was a bit disappointed since I don't think it even begins to measure 
up to _Pin and Web_ or _Portent Hue_.  It's sounds to me like they hadn't 
quite nailed their style down yet.  Betsy's vocals aren't up to their 
Caterwauling peak and they the lack of the the wonderfully busy little
riffs on guitar makes the whole thing seem rather repetitive at times.

The bright spot is _Diminuative Do-si-do_, which is entirely too
short.  Program it to repeat about four times.



"Don't drive too slowly."                 Richard Caldwell
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From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Negativnews
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Date: 4 Oct 92 18:24:31 GMT

In article <l+bpqwd@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>1) The magazine/cd combo, while stickered as a limited edition of 4000,
>   will probably undergo a second pressing fairly soon.
>2) Look for their interview in a forthcoming Mondo 2000.
>3) Their new album is almost done but probably won't be released until the
>   spring so as to capitalize on any publicity the magazine/cd will invoke.
>4) Negativland and several other ex-SST bands are working together to bring
>   some sort of action against the label and founder Gregg Ginn.  Watch for
>   a press release Real Soon Now.  (Note also that the prior Neg/SST nonsense
>   has not been formally settled in any way.)
>
>--
>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

   Do you happen to know any of the "other ex-SST" bands planning to
  collaborate?  I know the Meat Puppets are currently in a lawsuit with
  SST for the _No_Strings_Attached_ comp.   I assume Screaming Trees would
  be quite as upset for the _ST_Anthology_ comp as well.   Not to mention
  every OTHER great band to have left SST: Dinosaur Jr, Husker Du, fIREHOSE,
   Sonic Youth, Soundgarden, Steve Fisk, Opal, Universal Congress Of, and
  others.

   Keep us posted.  Thanks for the Negativnews.              K!z!K
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