From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Because, no Turk left alive in xxxxxx
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:07:22 -0600
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Ted Schuerzinger (a relative newcomer to alt.fan.hasan-mutlu) writes:

> Yet you didn't respond to what I wrote, Argic.  Not very intelligent
> for an AI program, are we?

Oh, C'me on, Ted. Arxid is not all that bad. He's got write only memory,
that's all.

> Remember folks: Argic, like Mutlu before it, is an artificial
> intelligence program -- a computer.  When you mention something like
> the genocide of the Armenians by the Ottomans, it calls you a
> "revisionist" and spews out a bunch of crap.

No he ain't. I've debated Arxid (back when he had enough "arxidia" to
use his own name (Hasan B-) Mutlu) on things unrelated to the Ottoman
Empire (tm)... He still used the same format, i.e. debate by infinite
repetition of a single "fact" while ignoring mostly everything else...

He does use a crude program to scan thru usenet posts and generate
MOST OF THE response text, allright, but AI it is NOT.

> NOTE: Argic will quote from the above paragraph in a posting -- just
> wait and see.

No he won't. After a couple of embarassing chicken and turkey baits which
he swallowed, he's much more selective now. I've sent out quite a few
bait messages even in news groups and he won't byte there either.

> Note that the crap Argic posts has never has anything to do with the
> previous posting -- it's just a lot of propaganda.

C'est la vie (sp?). Mutlu used to be a lot funnier. Arxid is not.

> If nobody responds to the racist Argic-crap, Argic will leave the net.

Not so. After observing Hasan/Arxid for a while I found out he has several 
options for generating responses:

1. direct references to Arxid/Mutlu articles

2. direct perceived anti-turk message (i.e. any Greek message containing
   the word Turkey. (this includes Hellge's recipes for thanksgiving	
   or my bait messages.

3. articles from certain individuals who have achieved the mutlu hall
   of fame (myself, Edward Wiener, Nick Gavrielatos, et al), REGARDLESS
   of content.

4. messages related to Greece's foreign policy (Macedonia most of the time,
   Cyprus all the time)

5. If everything else fails, original articles (MASSACRE IN KOHALY style)
   are generated for no apparent reason. 

> Also, it is impossible to reply to Argic via email -- I've tried.

You haven't tried hard enough. Try

anatolia.mn.org!zuma!sera@uunet.uu.net

It won't make it to zuma, but anatolia.mn.org's system administrator
will make sure to send a really nasty (though hilarious) message to
root or postmaster of the machine you used to send your mail. (how's
the Ph.D going, Ahmet?)

I am dying to try hasan.b.mutlu@att.com. According to all evidence it
should, but... (and before Mutlu gets on my back for publishing 
priviledged information, the trick about AT&T employes being referred
to as first.m.last@att.com is available in the USENET Group news.answers,
on FAQ "How to find peoples' e-mail addresses). 

But since I'm a nice person I won't. Now let's see how many Turks will
yap about me publishing 'classified' information (like his phone number
and address, in the Chicago phone book :-)). 

> Educated people know what really happened, Argic.
 
Educated people also want funny quotes. Along with Arxid, we got 
lots of intellectual stagnation. Sheesh, Mutlu was MUCH funnier...
(cosmic compost, fino culture, ...).

Spiros
--
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    "Ne mutlu anti-Argic diyene ?
c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                 Ne mutlu anti-Mutlu diyene !"