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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


in article <1992Jul16.222835.11549@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:

>Am I the only one on this newsgroup who liked "Comfort of Strangers" ?
>Gadzooks, it was Walken at his finest.

I didn't like "Comfort of Strangers" but I thought Walken's
performance was stunning, especially the _long_ monologue when
he was talking about his childhood.  Wonderful.

A year or so ago I heard an interview with the director on NPR, and he
said that when he read the script he thought there were probably only
two actors who could handle the scene, Walken and DeNiro (I think he
said DeNiro).

I promised myself that I would see the movie, and then forgot about it.
As soon as I started watching the tape (I'll rent anything with Walken) I made
the connection between the interview and this movie I was watching.

I agree with the director - not many people could have handled that scene
with the power and mesmerizing quality that Walken brought to it.
-- 
    Brice Dowaliby         |    I may speak fluently, but 
(bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu)  |    I don't speak for Fluent
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: _cape fear_
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:51:33 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group
Distribution: rec

In article <1992Jul23.1489.24639@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
[deletion]
>
>     Marty = Martin Scorsese.  Bobby = Robert De Niro.  After all, do

Really? Gee, thanks for clearing that up for me.

>     people say to you, "Good morning, Frank Malone.  How's things?"
>     or "Hi there, Frank Malone!"
>

Not usually, since my name is Maloney.

Then, too, not many people call me Frankie. My mother does
call me Rick, if that helps.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Only the mediocre can always be at their best." -- Mencken
For an average time write uunet!microsoft!frankm
For an even more mediocre time try frankm@microsoft.com
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From: lmiller@lucy.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: The preacher/cop in DEEP COVER
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 20 Jul 92 22:59:45 PDT

In article <13ttr7INN9nj@agate.berkeley.edu>, peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
> I forget both the actor and the character name for the preacher/cop
> who is constantly confronting Fishburne and who follows him to the
> shipyard... My dad, who only thought the movie was okay, felt that this
> character was kind of stupid... I, on the other hand, didn't take the
> character at face value... He was a symbol, embodying Fishburne's 
> conscience (which is why he keeps following him around to the craziest
> places)... I really dug the character, even for his oddity...
> (This sounds kinda rambling, but its late...)
> 
> --Peter M.
> 


I see nothing odd or stupid about this character.  Words mean nothing without
action.  He acted on his word, that he wanted to make a change.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: terminator ii
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:37:35 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


in article <1992Jul30.231539.7783@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard Buchanan) writes:

>In <1992Jul30.182537.41538@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
>
>>The irony here is that Schwarzenegger was supposedly approached to play
>>Reese in "The Terminator", but found the title role more intriguing.  Is this
>>a rumor or - gaa-a-ag - "urban legend?"
>
>I've read about the making of T1 and it seems that Ah-nold originally got
>the part of Reese. He was in fact talking to Jim Cameron about how he
>thought his opponent should move, and Cameron was so impressed with Arnie's
>understanding of robotic movement that he offered him the bad-guy role.
>Or something like that...

The further this goes, the more it sounds like b.s. to me.  Doesn't
qualify as urban legend, but does qualify as tall tale.
-- 
    Brice Dowaliby         |    I may speak fluently, but 
(bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu)  |    I don't speak for Fluent
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: great directors (was
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:03:26 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

TMFAP>} Recently, some people have suggested that Hitchcock should have won an
TMFAP>} Oscar. I personally don't think that Hitchcock was a great director. He
TMFAP>SUSPICION is a particularly bad example to use. Hitchcock had to make
TMFAP>changes in the film to satisfy the Hays office (the Hays office was for
TMFAP>all intents and purposes a censorship board). I suppose the following

     It wasn't the Hayes office that Hitch clashed with, but the publicity
     department.  In no way, shape, or form would they have allowed their
     darling Cary Grant to actually end up being the "bad guy."  His
     whole Hollywood image was built on him being a suave gentleman, and
     they didn't want to risk his career on one movie by a director who
     had only recently come over from England.
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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Cronenberg's Crimes of the Future
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:37:26 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

KJOHNSSON@finabo.abo.fi  writes:
> 
> Anybody know anything about an early David Cronenberg film called Crimes of the
> Future?!?
> 

I own a video copy of it (sorta bootleg tho) and another short,
called "Stereo," on VHS.  Both are excellent, classic
Cronenberg.  If your interested in acquiring a copy, e-mail me
for the address of the place I got it from ($20 and some
postage charge).  
--

Curt Tsui            
ckt4x@Virginia.EDU
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Fried Green Tomatoes
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:47:04 GMT
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
In-reply-to: schuster@panix.com's message of Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:34:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.183427.19984@panix.com>, schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:

> In article <1992Jul28.160351.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> haapamak@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:

>>        Who wrote the original novel that Fried Green
>>        Tomatoes is based on ??

> Fannie Flagg. The original title is "Fried Green Tomatoes At
> The Whistle Stop Cafe".

It's available in paperback from McGraw-Hill (NY) for US$7.95 
in the US.  One of the little beauties of the book is that is
has several of the recipes in the back of it, including two
different versions of fried green tomatoes (one is served
with milk gravy, one without).  Buy it and you can have 
enjoyment on multiple levels and for at least two of your
senses.
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From: wallis@ils.nwu.edu (Mindy Wallis)
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:15:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.183435.21145@ll.mit.edu> urbano@ll.mit.edu (John Urbano) writes:
>
> Two of my favorite musicals of all time are Yankee Doodle Dandee
> and 1776.
>
> YDD is a classic, I just saw it yesterday for the first time in about
> 6 years.  Unfortunately they colorized it, and didn't do a very good 
> job.  Thank god that colorization has no effect on the music.
>
> 1776 does not seem to have a large following, but I don't understand
> why.  
>
> Let's hear some opinions on these two great musical.

I'll wholeheartedly agree with you about the former, but the latter. . .
I love the cast, but let's face it none of them can sing or dance, and 
the music and lyrics are silly and insipid.

-----
Mindy
wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: BOOMERANG
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:29:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Jul21.181527.1@lucy.claremont.edu> lmiller@lucy.claremont.edu writes:
>> lmiller@lucy.claremont.edu writes:
>> 
>> Eddie has become one with the sensitive 90's, and it just makes me sick.  Sorry kids, but if I want to see a black Cary Grant, I'd rather watch Denzel.
>
>I am delighted that Eddie Murphy has decided to join the world of mature
>adults.  If you want the immature antics of Raw, then so be it.  It's a great
>thing for young men to see someone realizing his mistakes and bettering his
>life.  As a plubic figure, I think that Mr. Murphy has made a move in the right
>direction.  
>
>No one has to grow up, but it's nice.

For those interested in Murphy and "Boomerang", the LA Times' review of
the film was rather negative.  The LA Times entertainment section has
a regular feature where they run rebuttals to reviews and articles,
generally written by those associated with the production.  A recent
LA Times Calendar section had rebuttals to the Times' review from both
Reginald Hudlin, the director, and Eddie Murphy.  The Times reviewer,
and some other reviewers, have commented negatively on the relative
absence of white people from "Boomerang".  Hudlin correctly pointed out
that there are probably more white people in "Boomerang" than there are
black people in almost all of Woody Allen's films, put together.  Yet
critics never complain about an unrealistic absence of blacks from
Allen's films.  Murphy's article was a well written, rather mature
statement on the fact that there are substantial black businesses, and
successful black businessmen and businesswomen, and that there's nothing
wrong with a film that concentrates on them.

I basically agree with the points that Murphy and Hudlin made in these
articles.  Unfortunately, I thought their film stunk.  The cast and
the production design were about the only points of interest in the film,
and you know there's something wrong when the production design begins
to upstage that kind of cast.  I thought the film was desperately unfunny,
poorly paced, and very badly written.  On the other hand, it wasn't the
same old junk we keep seeing out of Hollywood these days, which is
something.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 15:39:48 GMT


Karen Workman writes:

>I saw The Dead Zone this weekend.  After about the first 5
>minutes I realized I had seen this before.  I watched the whole 
>flick however.  It was good but I kept thinking "low budget 
>film" all the way through. The scene where Walken flashes to
>Sheen's future as the president (You know the RED BUTTON
>stuff) was pretty silly.  Just gave me the impression they didn't
>have much to spend on sets etc...  It WAS a great story 
>however and Walken was wonderful!

_The Dead Zone_ is definitely on my "favorite films of all time"
list [flames welcome]. As I mentioned in an earlier post it
is unquestionably Walken's best film performance to date. Each
time I view the film I marvel at his portrayal of Johnny 
Smith's despair, fear, and rage as a man unable to deal with
his supernatural powers.

As for the "low-budget film" aspect, I'm not sure I agree.
The film may have been shot on a modest budget, but as I recall
it was quite a jump for director David Cronenberg, who until 
that film had made real "low-budget" films, i.e. _Scanners_,
etc. Cronenberg did a good job of weaving the various elements
of Stephen King's novel into a coherent two-hour film, and his
more subtle use of snow, ice, and rain to me was more effective
than Tim Burton's attempt to create an "icy" mood in _Batman
Returns_.

As for the "RED BUTTON" scene, you may be right about that
being a little cheesy, but I don't think it detracted any from
the overall powerful impact of the film. Sheen's performance
was right on target, and as I recall _The Dead Zone_ marked
a small comeback in his career.

Just my opinion.........

Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: jvs@lester.appstate.edu (John V. Scalco)
Subject: Re: Jim Cameron and Escape from New York
Organization: Appalachian State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:11:28 GMT

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
: > New York last night (UK TV, BBC2), he mentioned the credits listed a
: > Jim Cameron under Directors of Photography...
: 
: Yep, that was *the* JC.  He was a special effects dude with Roger Corman
: before he was a big time director...
: 
 - heres a new one - I have seen "Point Break" and I noticed that James
   Cameron or perhaps Jim , is credited with executive producer

	same Cameron?

	thanks,
		jvs
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From: pfalstad@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Paul Falstad)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: League For Fighting Chartered Accountancy
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:32:50 GMT

>voice from the balcony screamed, "Los Angeles!"  It brought the house
>down.

When I saw Terminator II, during the first scene where you see a
city laid waste by nuclear holocaust with the caption "LOS ANGELES 2027"
(or whatever), someone in front of me said, "Looks like that NOW."
It really set the mood for me.  :-)

-- 
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[Your blood pressure just went up.]          | 20 GOTO 10
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Subject: Re: ? about phrase in Apocalypse Now
From: chris@dranet.dra.com
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:55:09 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data Research Associates, St. Louis MO

In article <1992Jul21.001638.214@wuecl.wustl.edu>, teh1@cec2.wustl.edu (Trent E. Hemmings) writes:

> Right before Cpt. Willard and gang meet up with Robert
> Duvall and the Air Cav they hear loud thunderous noises.
> 
> Some one on the boat says something about a B-52 strike and
> then mentions "Arc Light" [sp?] What is "Arc Light"? Is it 
> the code name for some carpet bombing op? or what?

That's exactly right. Arclight was the code name for certain
B-52 bombing raids. Just line Rolling Thunder or Linebacker.

A great line of the movie was Clean's response to "Arclight".

"Everytime I hear that something awful happens."



Chris Yunker
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:51:41 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <91581@bu.edu> antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou) writes:

>Watching this flick again...  
>In the end when the Liquid-Metal-Terminator (LMT), the Terminator,  the chip,
>and the arm were melted...  and they said all is destroyed....  SURPRISE!!!
>Remember when the LMT shoved the Terminator's left arm into the huge sprocket
>thing....  the Terminator had to ripe his arm off to break free...
>well... well...  guess what they forgot to melt...  the Terminators riped
>left arm...

True, but there really wasn't enough left of that arm to be any good.  At
least with the chip, they were able to see how it was designed, and it
turned them in the right direction.  With the arm, they really couldn't tell
anything, except maybe that it's made of an alloy that they haven't ever
seen before.

>So... T3 should be coming out soon...  hahaha...  You see the arm will still
>be in the present... meaning the 'same' future will still evolve (the nuclear
>holocaust)...  T3 should settle that problem... don't you think.....

Yes, they should settle that problem by destroying Skynet once and for
all and putting an end to the sequels.  T2 was to Terminator what Highlander
2 was to Highlander (and no, I don't just mean a sequel, I mean a *bad*
sequel).


-- 
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Georgia Institute of Technology  |      outequipped what else have you got?"
Office of Information Technology | "Guile."
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:05:29 GMT


spencer.bow.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:

[stuff about audience speaking aloud during _Flatliners_ deleted]

>But university film society showings are probably the best
>setting for this sort of thing :-) 

That's definitely true. For a year I attended a Baptist University
in the southwest [name deleted] which took great care in bleeping
offensive words from the movies shown on campus. However,
one week the film was _The Breakfast Club_, which most of the
audience had already seen a million times anyway. During the
famous seen where Bender (Judd Nelson) yells "F*** YOU!!!!" at
the top of his lungs to the assistant principal as he's leaving
the library, at least twenty (presumably) good baptist students
yelled those same words at the top of their lungs even though
it was "bleeped" out of the movie. It was definitely the
high-point of the movie.....


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: SJOSEPHS@130.187.183.14 (STEVEN JOSEPHSON)
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi again - AUGGGH! What is she?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:44:13 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11


In <1992Jul27.195814.9422@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com writes:

> Hey everyone - 
> 	My new found love is Greta, but now I'm really confused. I got answers
> from several people saying she's English, American, Australian, and Italian,
> which didn't help matters any. Is she married? What's her ethnicity, really?
> I just saw "Good Morning, Babylon" Pretty Good. Has anyone seen her movie
> of last year with Jimmy Smits entitled "Fires Within"?
> 
> 		Chuck
Ok, the lady in question (whom I once saw referred to in the british tabloids
as 'Greta I-can't-wait-to-get-out-of-my-clothes Scacchi') is 
a) British
b) married
c) radiant

She was also very good in "Heat and Dust".  Check it out.
From: Laurie Mann
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Worst Movies (Beetle-Juice ?? I enjoyed it)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:56:37 GMT
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

Jim Mann writes
>In article <1992Jul29.135249.21162@crpmks.uucp> billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill  
>Bochnik (Info Systems)) writes:
>> In article <712295665@marlin.cs.duke.edu> malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu  
>(Manish Malhotra) writes:
>> >In article <1992Jul15.032131.1590@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> swalker@uts.EDU.AU  
>(S Walker) writes:
>> >>I thought that  BeetleJuice
>> >>should go down in the annals of worst movies ever made
>> >I am surprised about "Beetle Juice". I thought it was a well-made
>> >horror-comedy and Michael Keaton is really good in this.
>> I liked it as well, but you have to have the type of personality that  
>liked 
>> the Addams Family movie as well (of course the Addams Family was a much  
>better 
>> movie, having seen it several times and enjoyed it more each time).
>I liked both films, but I thought Beetlejuice was a better film
>than The Addams Family.  The Addams Family is good based on
>sets, mood, and characters. Beetlejuice has these plus a reasonably
>interesting storyline.

Ditto (but how embarassing to agree with one's spouse in a news group!)

One strong point of both Beetlejuice and Addams Family was the inspired
casting.  

Beetlejuice (1988):  Micheal Keaton, Winona Ryder, Alec Baldwin, Geena
Davis, Jeffrey Jones, Catherine O'Hara, Sylvia Sydney.

Addams Family (1991):  Raul Julia, Angelica Houston, Christopher
Lloyd, Sue Lyon (??"mother"), Christina Ricci

In the case of Beetlejuice, neither Baldwin nor Davis were
"household names" back then.  While Julia, Houston & Ricci received
good notices in the '80s, I think they will do even better in the '90s.

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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: ? about phrase in Apocalypse Now
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:34:10 GMT

In <1992Jul21.001638.214@wuecl.wustl.edu> teh1@cec2.wustl.edu (Trent E. Hemmings) writes:

>Some one on the boat says something about a B-52 strike and
>then mentions "Arc Light" [sp?] What is "Arc Light"? Is it 
>the code name for some carpet bombing op? or what?

B-52's strikes were called "Arc Light" because from a distance
(The only safe way to view them) the rapid flashes bore a similar
look to the flash of a welding torch (Or so I've read) 
-- 
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From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:16:01 GMT

In article <1300@rand.mel.cocam.oz.au>, sjm@cocamrd.mel.cocam.oz.au (John Machin) writes:

> I did however have to explain the irony inherent in the recurrent playing
> of "When Johnny comes marching home" during the B52 scenes.  Ah well, you
> can't hope for everything.

One school of thought holds that Kubrick intended for you to get
genuinely misty-eyed during these scenes of the plucky SAC
crew drawing on every resource to press on...

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