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> 
> I have some old K2 skis (195 cm).  I am tired of everybody and their mother
> coasting past me on semi-flat slopes...
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's your problem!  Get off those semi-flat slopes onto something
*steep*!   Then you won't have any problems going fast.  In fact, just 
the opposite...

John
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: How do I wax my skis?
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:28:41 GMT
	<1992Jul29.190914.19689@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
	<1992Jul30.205547.14407@advtech.uswest.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

In article <1992Jul30.205547.14407@advtech.uswest.com> jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi) writes:
>>Yup!
>>(At least I now know that I'm not alone in thinking this guy is a bona-fide
>>Ski-But-Head, not a Ski-Bum!)
>>							again
>>							T.S.
>>

>i'm a ski butt-head, and i enjoy it.  no, not enjoy.  i'm proud of it. you
>can even call home and ask my wife.  or ask steve.  yeah - tell 'em steve.
>am i a ski butt-head or what?  you've seen me ski.  sorta.  and my attitude.
>it's rotten.  really.

Oh.  That was *skiing* you were doing?  Manufacturers recommend that you ski on
the *bottoms* of your skis!  Perhaps, though, that's why hopping around on your
basement floor with your brand new Olin Mark IVs doesn't bother you...

What was the purpose for that incredible cloud of powder you kicked up just
before you hit the tree, tho?  I still don't understand your explanation...

:-)   :-)    :-)

>insert tongue-in-cheek here.
>-- 
>John Salmi		<jsalmi@uswest.com>		(303) 595-2863

>Last night, as I lay awake in bed looking at the stars, I asked myself:
			   Where the heck is my roof?

Remember?  You moved it out into the back yard, covered it with crushed ice
from your 'fridge, and tried to ski on it.  That was just before those nice men
came in the truck and took you for a ride....

--
Steve Hultquist                                      ...a rippin' kinda dude...
"No, really, you don't want to ski Colorado..."                     Boulder, Co
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From: gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber)
Subject: Colorado Gold C book
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:00:11 GMT


Some people were asking about mail ordering Colorado Gold C
books to take advantage of the lift ticket discounts:

You can call them at: (303) 388-4668.  Cost for next years
book is $10, and they accept credit card orders.

-- 
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:29:33 GMT

There, there, Andy, he didn't mean it..... 8^)  Just hit 'n.'
But, do send the killer tumbleweeds.

We're all waiting on Baker's FAQ (I won't do one because I use this group
as a control group to other experimental FAQ groups).

Wow, Salmi has a 2.5 yr old kid.  That's heavy.

Ski Vail.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: shieh@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: When do the packages come out
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:56:44 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: shieh@racerx.austin.ibm.com


When is the beginning of the "official"
ski season?  What I mean is that I've been
waiting for the brochures from all the resorts
covering their packages.  August?  September?
-- 
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From: bruno@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruno Melli)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:19:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Ski Racks
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> or you can get a verticle mount for the spare tire if you don't 
> mind carrying your skiis that way....i do.

I used to have one of those. Then I forgot I had the skis on and tried
to enter my garage ...

bruno.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: harsant@headplant.trl.OZ.AU (Dave Harsant)
Subject: Re: Will net.traffic increase with winter coming?
Organization: Telecom Research Labs,Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:36:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.220029.7223@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>It is winter in the Southern Hemisphere.

Yeah, I can vouch for that.  In Melbourne today it's overcast, dark but
not raining, with a max temp of about 12 deg C (53.6 F).  At Mt. Buller
today it was clear with a max temp of about .5 C.

I'm going for my first ski of the year this weekend.  It's been nearly
10 months since the last.  We've had a fairly dry June/July in Oz, it's
been reasonable for beginners/lower intermediates, but not much else.
The slopes have been very quiet.  We had a few snow showers in the
mountains over the last few days, but still no decent advanced skiing
yet.  Actually, this time last year there was virtually no snow, then
it dumped all August.  Here's hoping.

NZ reportedly has heaps of snow.

I'll ski a few runs for y'all.  Unfortunately, we don't have any 2000'
(vertical) bump runs here.

--
Dave Harsant,
Telecom (Australia) Research Laboratories  |  d.harsant@trl.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: snarfett@athena.mit.edu (Nicole A Harris)
Subject: Fischer SLS vacuum skis
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:42:19 GMT


Does anyone out there own Fischer SLS vacuum skis?
Do you like them?

Or has anyone tried these skis?
What did you think of them?

Does the vacuum technic really make a difference?
From: sailor@cellar.org (Rick Emerson)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Gore-tex, etc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:21:05 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Gore-tex seems to have improved somewhat since my last (unhappy) experience
with it.  The material that's really caught my attention is Antron.  Our ski
school uniforms were made with this stuff and it actually works!  I could
kneel down in snow and not have wet knees for the rest of the day.  

Oh, the uniforms are made by Spyder and... the fit sucks!  Spyder's sense of
XS through XL is comical or it would be if the cost of the uniform didn't
come out of my pocket.  Some people had problems with seams coming part and
zippers jamming; far too many for "hey, breaks of the game" failures.

The people who fit the stuff looked good and stayed dry but if I were
shopping in a store, I'd pass Spyder up.

Rick

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From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:25:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> 
> Does anyone know if Charles A. Thompson has anything better to do than
> post one question after another to rec.skiing?
> 

I think Chucky should go find a library, and if his unversity has taught him
to read yet, find out for himself the answers to his questions.  Perhaps
one of his professors can teach him to use a telephone and directory 
assistance, so he can call a travel agent, or the Vail Chamber of Commerce 
to get specific answers.


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|  Charles A. Thompson               |  thompson@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu         |
|  CS Student, University of Kansas  |  thompson@ukanvax.cc.ukans.edu        |
|  and _avid_ SkiBum.                |  OS/2 2.0 is for YOU!!!               |
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hah!  Dream on!  Your ignorance betrays you.

John

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: hoffman@n3.math.umn.edu (John R. Hoffman)
Subject: A waterskiing question
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:16:35 GMT



I have recently aquired a Connely Concept slalom ski and seem to have quickly  
surpassed all my friends in skiing ability.  Soooo, I'm thinking I'd like to  
start reading on how to slalom.  Are there any books or magazines out there  
that anyone can recomend to me?

Thanks

JRH

hoffman@math.umn.edu
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:08:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Ski Binding Storage
Organization: What, me? Organized?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, rjl@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Reggie Lewis) writes:

> [I read that] before storing the skis over the summer, one should have
> the bindings loosened otherwise they will lose some tension and be 
> worthless eventually.

 As requested, I've e-mailed my response to Mr. Lewis, but this question
 comes up with remarkable frequency and should be included in the FAQ.
 I'd like to see some discussion of this rather than just putting in
 my own belief.

 Here's my religious opinion: Loosening your bindings may make you feel
 better since it's fun to play with your skis. Other than that it does
 nothing. The spring constant of a properly manufactured spring is just
 that..a constant; unless of course you exceed the elastic limits of the
 material. 

 Another misconception that is hopefully not a *widely* held misconception
 is that the springs are in "tension". This is not true. The springs are
 in compression. 

 The *best* thing you can do for your bindings over the summer is to make
 sure that they are clean and well greased. Corrosion is a far greater
 concern than possible spring constant degradation. 


 ..glen

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: SCHROEDE@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ski conditions report -- how's late September?
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:54:11 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Jul30.171047.42016@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

> Hello all,
> 
> Well, from the response, I guess I'll post ski condition reports
> as soon as I get the script done.  This may take a couple of weeks
> (I'm moving and am very busy).  Would late September be a good time
> to start posting?

hold it that's way way way too late, try like mid-august :-_)
you never cease to amaze me

> 
a old severely troubled recovering former "real" _avid_ one,
doug
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi)
Subject: Re: Ski conditions report -- how's late September?
Organization: US West Information Technologies
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:53:55 GMT

In article <Bs84Cy.AnM@solbourne.com> gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber) writes:
>
>Please wake me when a Colorado ski area is open in late September.

ain't that the truth.....

>
>Keystone always makes a big fuss and tries to open sometime around the
>third week of October; it always seems they are making snow like
>crazy, the weather stays warm, and they can't open.  Then sometime,
>like Nov 5, it turns cold and snows two feet in the high country.
>

i skied both keystone and loveland a couple years ago on opening days.
HA!  there were about 400 people at loveland, all using a single run,
and everyone was on the run at the same time.  icy, icky, but skiing
nonetheless.

>Last year I skiied Nov 16 at Copper; conditions were great (some grass
>showing through where it was skiied off).  No real moguls yet, of
>course.  The best skiing last year in Colorado was late November and
>March/April.

what he said.  feb-march are the best for me.

>
>Hopefully this year El Nino won't be in control of the weather
>patterns and the big dumps will hit Utah and Colorado in force all
>winter.

wouldn't that be nice?  that'd be all the more reason/encouragement for
eugene to "ski vail".

*snork*

cheers,

-- 
John Salmi		<jsalmi@uswest.com>		(303) 595-2863

Last night, as I lay awake in bed looking at the stars, I asked myself:
                     Where the heck is my roof?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: lammers@esker.geog.utoronto.ca (R.B. Lammers)
Subject: skiing Montana...
Organization: University of Toronto Department of Geography
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:53:32 GMT


It looks like I may be in Montana (Missoula) for a 'few months'
in the fall and/or winter. The exact dates are unknown.

Does anyone know when the ski season opens out there, and where
there is good skiing for an intermediate level person?

-- 

Richard Lammers                       lammers@esker.geog.utoronto.ca
Dept. of Geography                    lammers@eos.geog.utoronto.ca
University of Toronto
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: glesner@den.mmc.com (Rick Glesner)
Subject: Re: Fixing bent tips?
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:57:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.192233.23279@isrc.sandia.gov> smlacke@isrc.sandia.gov (Scott M Lackey) writes:
>
>	I have a pair of Blizzard Thermo SLs and last season I managed to
>bend a tip slightly but noticeably.  I've skied on them several times
>since and they work well enough except for not tracking well at real
>high speeds.  Being a poverty stricken grad student who can barely
>afford to ski anyway I was wondering what can be done to fix them.
>Especially how much $$$ and whether I can expect the fix to last.
>Any info will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Scott Lackey.
>P.S.  Any water skiers around Albuquerque with a boat they would
>like to pull me around with?  I'd let you use my jet ski gladly.

The Blizzard Thermo has a tempeture sensitve metal layer in it,
it will gain and lose camber depending on the temp of the snow.
This metal will have taken a "set", the problem with the tracking
is because you've lost tip pressure, i.e. your weight is not being
distrubuted across the intire skiis length.  Some times a ski can
be straightened, some shops have a "I" beam with pipes welded to 
it to aid rebending the ski.  The general approach would be to 
debur the metal top edge (remove stress risers, so the top can't
crack, or start a total ski failure), warm the ski to over 100 
deg.(warm enough to soften up the resin the ski is held together
with, NOT warm enough to b-stage the resin). Start to reverse bend
the ski on the bench slowly as not too put a kink, or wave in it.
To check your progress put both skiis together (base to base) and
sight down between them. Use the contact point at the tip, and the
tail as datums. Look at the camber on both sides, is it equal yet?
No, work some more, rewarm ski if nessesary .  If they look pretty
equal, close the skis together, watch the edges at the tip as they
close. A set of skiis with proper "line" will close cleanly, with
out to much tip splay. The closure point moving back down the skiis.
If not do some more bending, use tip splay as the fine tune for "line".
Now lastly work a little more camber into the bent ski, since the
material has taken a stress and has weakened it will take a little
more line to produce the same tip pressure as before. As a last 
thought check both for bends, if they are work both back i.e. just
use your imagination.  I used to work on skis when you really could
rebuild the intire thing, I can't remember how many Fishers, Kastle's
and other sandwich construction skis I saved.

Good luck-Good skiing
Rick Glesner   Old Doggers never die, they just ski closer to the
trees!!!
From: seb1@leia.dr.att.com (sharon badian)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: When do the tumbleweeds come out in western Kansas?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:00:41 GMT
Reply-To: seb1@druhi.att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, Denver, CO.

|> In article <1992Jul20.144122.41760@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
|> >Do tumbleweeds have a 'season' when they are around.  Is this 'season' 
|> >early winter?  I really would like to show my roommates these hoards of
|> >tumbleweeds on I-70 this winter (in January), but I have a feeling that 
|> >they won't be there.

My husband and I were driving to Denver on I-76 and we saw tumbleweeds
on the road. This was just after the Thanksgiving holiday. We thought it
was kind of amusing that our first sighting of tumbleweeds occured just
as we crossed over the Nebraska/Colorado border. Like we had just entered
the wild west and the tumbleweeds were there to greet us!

I think late-fall/early winter may be the season. I remember seeing a
story on the local news about tumbleweeds burying this small town and
I seem to remember sometime in late fall. Some years they just grow
totally out of control and take over. It's sounds really funny until
you think about tumbleweeds blocking up a small town. I hear some of
them get huge! The ones we saw were of more reasonable size.

-- 
Sharon Badian
AT&T Bell Labs - Denver
seb1@druhi.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: i'll help with the dishes.
From: grspangler@ualr.edu
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:01:23 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1992Jul20.221930.7418@advtech.uswest.com>, jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi) writes:
> In article <1992Jul19.114500.1@ualr.edu> grspangler@ualr.edu writes:
>>anybody want to adopt me for the coming season???
>>
>>p.s.  i do windows too.
>>
> 
> sure.  and we'll only charge ya $500/wk room & board.  what?  that's not
> adoption?   well, excuuuuuuuse me.  

i have a bid.  do i hear $400/wk???

> and here i thought that i was doint the humane thing.
> 
> sheesh.

===========================================================================
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Disclaimer: What?!?!?  I didn't say that!!!!!
From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Many questions... (was Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?)
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:28:57 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Jul23.163201.20124@walter.cray.com>, sonic@artgate.cray.com (Curtis Swanson) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul23.142241.41849@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> hompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
> writes:
> 
>>Well, if I had owned the skis for the past 10 years, I would have kept
>>them up.  But they were just given to me. 
> 
> Hmmmm, no pride in ownership, regardless of purchased/received items.
> 
> Big sigh.....

Huh?

> --
> ***  Curt Swanson  ***  sonic@romulus.cray.com  ***  IOTTMCO  *********
> HOME:n - That mythical place where you can go and relax.......
> I'd rather be in a coma.........

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From: blukie@msgate.corp.apple.com (Alan Samuel)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: To Snowboard Near Charlotte
Date: 17 Jul 92 01:27:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple

I'll be relocating to Charlotte and I'm wondering about winter sports in the
south.   Where is the closest place for skiing and board'n???
From: tom@uts.amdahl.com (Tom Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: August sales, Atomic MODULE skiis
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:43:22 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

It looks like I'll be buying skiis this year, does the August pre-season sale
time actually have better prices than later in the year.  I looked a fair bit
last year, and it seemed that prices stayed fairly flat all year, especially
on skiis until the end of the season when accessories and "odds and ends"
were discounted fairly heavily.

Does anyone have experience with Atomic "MODULE" skiis?  At a glance these
looked like they might suit me (looking for an all-around ski, 210lbs, 
aggressive recreational skier, cheap price).  Anything is likely to be an
improvement over the thrashed Head GS 200's I used last year; I curious if
anyone has personal experience and can say "I like/don't like them because..."

I could wait and demo some at the slopes, but I suspect that may be overkill
for my current level of skiing.
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: How do I wax my skis?
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:24:02 GMT
	<1992Jul30.172921.381@cine88.cineca.it>
	<1992Jul30.205839.14478@advtech.uswest.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

In article <1992Jul30.205839.14478@advtech.uswest.com> jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi) writes:
>steve - let's to the glacier soon.

Let's!
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
if it's to be, it's up to me...                                    ISSC Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: marks@ssdevo.enet.dec.com (Randy Marks)
Subject: Wanted: mailorder source for O'Brien water ski parts
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. - Colorado Springs
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:19:46 GMT

Looking for a mailorder source for O'Brien water ski parts.

	Randy Marks 

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From: gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber)
Subject: Re: Ski conditions report -- how's late September?
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:41:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.171047.42016@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Would late September be a good time to start posting?
>
[ski reports]

Please wake me when a Colorado ski area is open in late September.

Keystone always makes a big fuss and tries to open sometime around the
third week of October; it always seems they are making snow like
crazy, the weather stays warm, and they can't open.  Then sometime,
like Nov 5, it turns cold and snows two feet in the high country.

Last year I skiied Nov 16 at Copper; conditions were great (some grass
showing through where it was skiied off).  No real moguls yet, of
course.  The best skiing last year in Colorado was late November and
March/April.

Hopefully this year El Nino won't be in control of the weather
patterns and the big dumps will hit Utah and Colorado in force all
winter.

-- 
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/ Andy Gerber		     / gerber@solbourne.com               /
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From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:14:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Many questions... (was Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?)
Organization: What, me? Organized?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, ssh@watson.ibm.com writes:

> Righto.  In fact, a real ski bum will spend money on his equipment 
> and figure out ways to ski for free!  Tote dynamite for the patrol
> [..]

 Or even worse, *join* the patrol!

 ..glen "it's all tax deductable now" baker