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The dice between Senna, Schumacher and Brundle near the beginning of the race
was incredible.  It was obvious the Senna was holding the 'Benetton Boys' up.
Schumacher was doing everything he could to get around.  The last thing
he needed was for Brundle to start getting aggressive behind him, yet this
is exactly what happened.

For awhile it looked like good old Brutal would ram his nose up Schumacher's
tail pipe yet again...thankfully Schumacher was able to make the pass on Senna
on Senna's right while at the same time Brundle charged him on the left.

Is it any wonder that quite a few people dislike Brundle?  He has absolutely
so concept of team driving.  I would hate to see him paired with Mansell, 
Prost or Senna for fear that his actions would cause one shunt after another.

Schumacher is an up and coming star, yet his career could be ended in an 
incident such as occured in Hungary.

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From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:22:22 GMT
Subject: Re: BELGIUM-SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com


	The way you lot go on about Schumacher, anyone would think that
	all he had driven before was Plastic Pig.
	He has driven Sports cars, you know, and they're not exactly slow.
	I have a great deal of respect for him, and enjoyed his victory,
	he drove very intelligently, but he's not a god.

(Just putting my flame proof suit on, wait a min.....aaaaaaghhh !!)

	Cheers,


		RIK


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport,talk.politics.drugs
From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: NHRA announces Piss Testing
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:58:29 -0500

One comment regarding the 1:500 risk of dropping dead.  This level
of risk corresponds to 200:100000.  For comparison, the actuarial
data for smoking tobacco is 640 deaths per 100000 users per year.
Tobacco is, by far, the most dangerous drug to its users.  The data
for alcohol is >100:100000 although this drug is responsible for
virtually all "drug related" accidents and correlates with the majority
of violent crime in our society.  The illegal drugs generally fall
far below these levels of risk: cocaine, for example falls in the 
range 20-25 per 100000.  (Past experience with prohibition coupled
with sampling of "street" quality suggests that even this figure for
cocaine is too high because the illegality of the drug results in
no quality control, thus the value should be more like 4-5 per 100000.
During alcohol prohibition, the fatalities from alcohol toxicity
increased by a factor of 10 over the pre-prohibition value.)

The hypothetical may be useful but the risk valuation is way out
of line with reality.  If a rule is enacted to "protect me from myself"
and the rule has no rational basis, then what?  Frankly, I trust my own 
ability to assess what is an acceptable risk for me much better than 
I trust anyone elses ability to assess that risk for me.  This is 
particularly true when the assessors of risk repeatedly demonstrate 
their incompetence.  You know, if you think about it, these rules
ultimately assume that protecting a small number of possibly 
self-destructive idiots must necessarily define what is acceptable 
for the rest of us.  (From the philosophical standpoint, I find this
approach repugnant to any concept of a free society.  If people
thought about it just a bit, I'm sure they'd agree.  For example,
we could ban the practice of Christianity on the grounds that it
produces enough people like Jim Jones that it is too risky to allow
people to practice it.)

The argument that this is all somehow voluntary is a pipe dream.  By
dint of a great deal of effort and a bit of luck, I was able to
continue working in the defense industry WITHOUT being drug tested
by going independent.  However, economic factors and the vagaries
of contract work will probably mean that I will be joining a company
in the not too distant future.  I know from my contacts in the industry
how very lucky I've been to be in a position to make my own choices.

In a situation that is dominated by hysteria, one's ability to
choose is about as likely as bucking a stampede.
-- 
paul hager		hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu

"I would give the Devil benefit of the law for my own safety's sake."
                       --from _A_Man_for_All_Seasons_ by Robert Bolt
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: benny@csoc.COM (Benny Clark)
Subject: How to best get into racing.
Organization: CAD Systems of Carolina
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:35:35 GMT

I have recently subscribed to this newsgroup so this may be a FAQ.  Anyway,
I am interested in racing.  I live in the Southeast.  My goal is to race
open wheel cars.  I have received information from several schools, clubs,
etc.  The SCCA looks like my best shot.

Is the SCCA my best opportunity to enter the sport?  I have a very limited
mechanical background.  I would not want to make a large capital investment
until I am sure that this is what I want to do on a regular basis.  I would
probably plan on racing in 8-10 races next season.

I am already 27 so racing competitively (at least serously) is probably is probably
out of the question.  Maybe not.  

I am looking for good tips and ideas here.  Thanks for any help.


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Toby Vaughn Padfield)
Subject: Re: I had a (F1) dream...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:19:34 GMT

brims@bnkl01.astro.ucla.edu (George Brims) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.154928.18072@fang.att.com> agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92)) writes:
>>shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>>>I had a Formula 1 dream...and it DIDn't include:-
>>>it was wonderful. 
>>
>>Me too! And the cars were painted in national colours.
>>-- 
>>Grayson Walker         

>The usual American fascination with nationalism is creeping in here.
>Do you really think Senna is racng for Brazil or Mansell for Britain?
>They are racing for themselves and their team (and the love of racing).
>Keep nationalism out of sport. (They should start the Olympics with
>a flag-burning ceremony - all of them!).

>George Brims
>Just my .02 ECU.


	So there is no nationalism in Alain Prost's desire to create a
team of French drivers, designers, sponsors, and management. Or Renault
wanting a Frenchman to drive for them. Why do the Peugeot WSC cars run
with Michelin tires, instead of Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli, etc????
What about the Mercedes WSC cars that reverted to the silver paint scheme
that is the "national" symbol for German racing cars. Why has there been
such a big discussion about whether or not Americans could build a compet-
itive open-wheel car???? Or why there is no U.S. G.P. or American drivers
in F1. Contrary to your opinion, there is a great deal of NATIONALISM in
motorsports!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just my $0.02! (Please substitute your NATIONAL currency for dollars!!)
Toby Padfield

		
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: Rahal Comment
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: competition
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 31 Aug 1992 14:56 EST  

In article <1992Aug31.134257.29271@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, 
mini11@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mark.kearney) writes...
> 
>What was with Rahal yesterday after his accident? The way I saw it was
>Stefan Johannson and Bobby were racing. To say Stefan shouldn't try and
>race to win because he's doesn't have any championship points is absurd!
>Given the course limitations for passing areas I'm assuming Stefan thought
>he could get by Bobby. I know Tony B. doesn't spend his money to just
>finish each race. Every team is there to win!

The other point is why didn't Bobby let Stefan go by?  Maybe (just maybe) 
Stefan tried to take something which wasn't there, but with Stefan's car 
being faster than Bobby's at the time, the potential for an incident was 
there for a number of laps before it happened.

Any word on comments from Mario after the race?  Paul Tracy becomes yet 
another victim of Mario's "brain-fade".

JD
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: Mika.Paakko@lut.fi (Mika Paakko)
Subject: More results of The Rally of the 1000 Lakes (Jyvaskylan Suurajot)...
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:23:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: Mika.Paakko@lut.fi
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland



Here are the last results of Saturday.

Mikael Sundsrom (Group N Nissan) quit on SS 28, transmission problems.


SS 29	"Hassi"		14.69 km
--------------------------------	McRae drove again off road,
					redesigned the look of his Subaru 
	1. Auriol	8.10		even more.. :) 
	2. Kankkunen	8.11		Finished this SS driving three
	3. Alen		8.13		wheels. Car looks even more 
	4. Vatanen	8.18		wrecked...lost a few minutes.
	5. Lindholm	8.22		Is probably able to continue.

	
SS 30	"Sahloinen"	12.32 km
--------------------------------

	1. Alen		6.35
	2. Auriol	6.36
	3. Kankkunen	6.38
	4. Vatanen	6.39
	5. Lampi	6.50	



SS 31	"Surkee"	21.90 km
--------------------------------

	1. Auriol	11.09
	   Kankkunen	11.09
	3. Vatanen	11.10
	4. Alen		11.15
	5. Lindholm	11.30



Results after Saturday  (SS 31 of 37):
---------------------------------------------------------------

	1. Didier Auriol	FRA	Lancia		3.49.20
	2. Juha Kankkunen	FIN	Lancia		3.49.59
	3. Markku Alen		FIN	Toyota		3.50.37
	4. Ari Vatanen		FIN	Subaru		3.51.29
	5. Massimo Biasion	ITA	Ford		3.57.21
	6. Lasse Lampi		FIN	Mitsubishi	3.57.57
	7. Sebastian Lindholm	FIN	Ford		3.59.23
	8. Phillippe Bugalski	FRA	Lancia		4.03.30
	9. Colin Mcrae		GBR	Subaru		4.03.39
       10. Jarmo Kytolehto	FIN	Mitsubishi	4.09.43 (Group N)
       11. Esa Saarenpaa	FIN	Ford		4.10.23
       12. Juha Hellman		FIN	???		4.15.08 (Group N)
       13. Gregoire de Mevius	BEL	???		4.15.40 (Group N)


Stig-Olof Waldfridsson (group N) quit because of engine troubles.

More results tomorrow. This was all for today.
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: tak@doe.utoronto.ca (Tak Ariga)
Subject: Schumacher's racing career
Organization: Dictionary of Old English - U of Toronto
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:50:54 GMT

It has been said that the race in Belgium marks Michael Schumacher's 
first anniversary since joining F1; his first race was exactly a
year ago in Spa.  It has also been said that it is his 18th F1 race.

Now, given that there are 16 races in a season, the first anniversary
should be the 17th race, right?

Perhaps the F1 historians and staticians can clear this up for us.

Thanks.

-- 
Tak Ariga, Dictionary of Old English Project, University of Toronto, Canada
           tak@doe.utoronto.ca  tak@doe.toronto.edu  utdoe!tak  
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92))
Subject: Re: Driver-owned teams; are they the best?
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:33:41 GMT

T.Cohen asked:
>>Did the Team Lotus drivers ever drive any of the Galaxies
>>that revolutionised British Saloon car racing in the early 60s?
>>J.Francis answered:
>I don't believe so.  To the best of my recollection they were all driving
>Lotus Cortinas (a vehicle that showed that there was an other approach to a
>winning car design than stuffing steroids down the throat of the powerplant).

I think the big Galaxies were driven by (Jack?) Sears and (Maybe) Roy Salvadori???
-- 
Grayson Walker                                              AGWIII@fang.att.com
CHC, Maitland, FL                          Big brown river..... Tuli Kupferberg
From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Rahal/Johansson/Mario/Tracy
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:15:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

I have noticed something in the recent months.  The postings are getting
very sloppy in r.a.s..  In the article below, Millam includes me as a 
contributor but deletes everything I wrote.  In other articles, people are 
including the entire text when only responding to a sentence or two.  The
Padfields are famous for this, but others are doing it too.  And others are
including 10+ line sigs from the post they are responding to.  So if you
care to post, how about taking a little extra time and do us all a favor.

Millam Tackitt writes:

>In article <183381@pyramid.pyramid.com> danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones) writes:

[ stuff deleted except what I wrote (nothing) ]

>How many of you critics have ever been in Indy car competition, from what
>I've read here you are all just arm chair Indycar racers. 

From what I can tell, we're all a bunch of IndyCar couch potatoes.

>When you are in
>the cockpit of one of these rockets in competition and never make a mistake
>or mis-judgement then you will have some room to criticize these people.

So not only do you have to race in these things, you can never have made a
mistake?  I think you have now eliminated everyone on this planet.

>Till then you should just SHUT-UP!!!

Sorry Millam, but I'm interested to here what others think.  Sometimes it
gets tiresome, then I hit 'n'.  Or if I'm reading a column by Luyendyk or
Nigel Roebuck, etc and it gets tiresome, I put it down.

Dan Jones
From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Rahal/Johansson/Mario/Tracy
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:53:34 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <183340@pyramid.pyramid.com> danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones) writes:
>
>As far as the Al Jr/Fittipaldi incident, this was much closer to a racing
>incident.  Jr had a chance, but Fittipaldi closed the door.  I'm not blaming
>Fittipaldi, but I don't agree with his comments about Jr later.

I must have missed these.  What did Emmo say?  Was it anything more than the
predictable "I obviously had the corner - he should never have tried that move"?
-- 
John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com
Seen passing on the net:  Spotted Owl - the *other* white meat!
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: mike@msc.cornell.edu (Mike Heisler)
Subject: Karting in upstate NY
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:46:09 GMT

My son and I are looking into kart racing and would like some info on
local clubs and tracks in the Finger Lakes area
(Rochester/Syracuse/Elmira/Binghamton).  Sprints, enduro, whatever.
Any information would be appreciated.

I am aware of road courses at Avon and Batavia but was looking for something
a little closer to Ithaca.

Mike Heisler		607-255-7344	    mike@msc.cornell.edu
Materials Science Ctr.	302 Thurston Hall   Cornell Univ, Ithaca, NY 14853-1503
From: tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Rally of the Thousands Lakes
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:46:47 +0300
Organization: City of Tampere

THE RALLY OF THE THOUSANDS LAKES (JYVASKYLAN SUURAJOT)
======================================================

The Rally of the Thousands Lakes starts today at 18.00 EET in Finland.
It will last four days ending on Sunday. 

The biggest favourites are
Juha Kankkunen, Fin   Lancia
Didier Auriol, Fra    Lancia
Markku Alen, Fin      Toyota

I 'll try to send results so often I can.

-- 
---
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                *  City of Tampere, FINLAND
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: fosterr@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond W. Foster)
Subject: Re: World or national series?  (was: Proposal: rec.autos.formula1)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:05:18 GMT

Just a few corrections:

In article <1992Aug25.230605.15579@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>   * Formula 1 has a variety of drivers, with a large Italian contingent.
>     Of the top 10 drivers, seven are from EC countries (Britain, Italy and
>     France), with others from Brazil, Austria and Finland.
                                        ^^^^^^^

Last time I checked, Austria was in the EC. It's not in NATO: perhaps
that's what you were thinking of.

>
>3. * IndyCar teams are based exclusively in the US.  With the exception of
>     the occasional Judd motor, engines are from US "manufacturers".

The "Ford" and "Chevy" engines used in IndyCars are all built in England
by Cosworth and Ilmor, respectively. The only thing American about them
is the development money put up by Ford & GM. Judd hasn't been involved
in IndyCar racing for several years.

Likewise, the vast majority of the chassis are British made. I believe
the only US made chassis is the TruSports: they only field one car
and it's going away after this season. I could be a little off: I'm not
sure where the Galmers and Penskes are made, but without a doubt the
Lolas that make up the vast majority of the field in any given race are
built in England.

>So do you still think IndyCar is as much of a world series as Formula 1?

Looks like it's a little more international than you first gave it
credit for.


Ray Foster
Indiana University
Bloomington IN USA
From: lallo@stsci.edu (Matthew D. Lallo,622,4577)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: U.S. Engines
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:53:29 GMT
Reply-To: lallo@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD

In article 2694@neptune.inf.ethz.ch, marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti) writes:
>
>I cannot help to conclude that, for some reason, there do not seem to
>be US companies which are able to design and build chassis which are
>competitive with British-English companies at the level of F1 or
>IndyCar/CART racing.  The same appears to be true of engines.
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How do you reconcile that statement with the fact that we have seen the 
Ford HB V8 blast its way around F1 circuits of the world with a reliability
and power *more* than competitive with the rest of the field of 12 and 10
cylinders from across the globe?  

Or have I put my foot in my mouth and this engine is made and designed in 
England?


Matt
From: Mika.Paakko@lut.fi (Mika Paakko)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: The last results of The Rally of the 1000 Lakes (Jyvaskylan Suurajot)...
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:26:52 GMT
Reply-To: Mika.Paakko@lut.fi
Distribution: rec
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


Here are the rest of the results:


SS 32	"Pitkajarvi"	 7.25 km
--------------------------------

	1. Auriol	3.37
	   Kankkunen	3.37
	3. Vatanen	3.41
	4. Alen		3.45
	5. Biasion	3.47
	   Lampi	3.47
	   McRae	3.47


SS 33	"Mutanen"	13.33 km
--------------------------------

	1. Kankkunen	6.57
	2. Auriol	6.59
	3. Alen		7.00
	4. Vatanen	7.03
	5. Biasion	7.06


SS 34	"Lempaa"	28.40 km
--------------------------------

	1. Auriol	14.15
	2. Kankkunen	14.22
	3. Vatanen	14.29
	4. Alen		14.37
	5. Biasion	14.38


SS 35	"Ylemmainen"	11.61 km
--------------------------------

	1. Auriol	6.38
	   Kankkunen	6.38
	3. Vatanen	6.42
	4. Alen		6.43
	5. Lindholm	6.46


SS 36	"Mynnila"	 8.36 km
--------------------------------

	1. Kankkunen	4.18
	   Vatanen	4.18
	3. Alen		4.19
	4. Auriol	4.20
	5. Biasion	4.24


SS 37	"Vartiamaki"	12.60 km
--------------------------------
	
	1. Kankkunen	7.34
	2. Vatanen	7.35
	3. Auriol	7.36
	4. Lindholm	7.39
	   McRae	7.39


The final results after SS 37 of 37:
---------------------------------------------------------------

	1. Didier Auriol	FRA	Lancia		4.32.45
	2. Juha Kankkunen	FIN	Lancia		4.33.25
	3. Markku Alen		FIN	Toyota		4.34.44
	4. Ari Vatanen		FIN	Subaru		4.35.17
	5. Massimo Biasion	ITA	Ford		4.41.46
	6. Lasse Lampi		FIN	Mitsubishi	4.42.41
	7. Sebastian Lindholm	FIN	Ford		4.43.58
	8. Colin Mcrae		GBR	Subaru		4.48.30
	9. Phillippe Bugalski	FRA	Lancia		4.49.40
       10. Jarmo Kytolehto	FIN	Mitsubishi	4.57.14 (Group N)
       11. Esa Saarenpaa	FIN	Ford		4.58.00
       12. Juha Hellman		FIN	???		5.02.44 (Group N)



Points after Jyvaskyla (9/14)
-----------------------------

Drivers:
--------

	1. Didier Auriol	FRA	Lancia	       100
	2. Carlos Sainz		ESP	Toyota		92
	3. Juha Kankkunen	FIN	Lancia		77
	4. Massimo Biasion	ITA	Ford		42
	5. Markku Alen		FIN	Toyota		40
	6. Francois Delecour	FRA	Ford		33
	7. Colin McRae		GBR	Subaru		28


Manufacturers:
--------------

	1. Lancia	137
	2. Toyota	 98
	3. Ford		 70
	4. Subaru	 35
	5. Nissan	 33
	6. Mitsubishi	 28


The next race will be in Australia, 18.-22. September.

(I hope that this all was correct, sorry, if there were some mistakes...)
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: World or national series?  (was: Proposal: rec.autos.formula1)
Originator: kevinh@mira
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:42:36 GMT


In article <BtKGCu.Aqx@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, fosterr@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond W. Foster) writes:
|> Just a few corrections:
|> 
|> In article <1992Aug25.230605.15579@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
|> >   * Formula 1 has a variety of drivers, with a large Italian contingent.
|> >     Of the top 10 drivers, seven are from EC countries (Britain, Italy and
|> >     France), with others from Brazil, Austria and Finland.
|>                                         ^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Last time I checked, Austria was in the EC. It's not in NATO: perhaps
|> that's what you were thinking of.

No, Austria is not an EC member, it's a member of EFTA along with Switzerland,
Norway, Sweden and Finland.

|> >3. * IndyCar teams are based exclusively in the US.  With the exception of
|> >     the occasional Judd motor, engines are from US "manufacturers".
|> 
|> The "Ford" and "Chevy" engines used in IndyCars are all built in England
|> by Cosworth and Ilmor, respectively. The only thing American about them
|> is the development money put up by Ford & GM. Judd hasn't been involved
|> in IndyCar racing for several years.
|> 
|> Likewise, the vast majority of the chassis are British made. I believe
|> the only US made chassis is the TruSports: they only field one car
|> and it's going away after this season. I could be a little off: I'm not
|> sure where the Galmers and Penskes are made, but without a doubt the
|> Lolas that make up the vast majority of the field in any given race are
|> built in England.
|> 
|> >So do you still think IndyCar is as much of a world series as Formula 1?
|> 
|> Looks like it's a little more international than you first gave it
|> credit for.

Well, nobody really watches it outside of the US. If the US teams decide
to use other countries (mainly Britain's) proven expertise than that's another question. 

|> Ray Foster
|> Indiana University
|> Bloomington IN USA

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch