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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Voting of r.a.dw Resolution; ballot provided; send replies to sarah@
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 06:16:35 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Sends Reply-to:  sarah@micom.com.

We have a returning officer.

Send your ballots to sarah@micom.com  and  she, as the unbiased returning
officer, will tally the votes.  Last day to vote is November 22, 1992.
Put an X besides your choice.

Here is what the ballot looks like:

Ballot
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1)  The FAQ stay in current format as is.

    _ Yes   _ No

* suggestion for an alternate idea.

2) The Yadon resolution for the Club's Listing be adopted (an example is
                                                           provided by
                                                           Legion of Rassilon)

    Entries will be foramtted as follows:

       Club's Name:
       Mailing Address:
       Meeting dates and location:
       Membership dues:
       Person in charge:
       Known Contact on USEnet:
       Year founded:
       number of mambers:
       Listing last modified (date):
       Additional:
       BBSes Supported:
       Fanzines/newsletters:

    _ Yes _ No

3) Add the following:

   a)  List television stations all over the world that broadcast Doctor Who.

       _ Yes  _ No

   b)  Merge both Jim Miller, James Arstrong JR. and Frank Durda's Episode
       Guide

       _ Yes  _ No

   AS well as

       i) Listing the Planets that the Doctor Who has visited.

           _ Yes  _ No

       ii) And pardon the ignorance on this one, include actors, producers and

           special guests that have appeared on an episode.

           _ Yes  _ No

   c)  List also the Model of TARDISes that are active.

          _ Yes  _ No

   d)  Pardon ignorance again, include the DW Movies.

          _ Yes  _ No




   e) Official British contact to CONFIRM the lastest news from

      the BBC, Doctor Who monthly, Dreamwatch Bulletin, and other publications.

         _ Yes  _ No

   f) Biographies of Doctors, some description  of villains, companions and

      Timelords.

         _ Yes  _ No

   g) A timeline for the show.

         _ Yes  _ No

   h) A List of Doctor who novels.

         _ Yes  _ No

   The above to be MONTHLY publications.

3) Publish the FTP files for availability of the above mentioned.

         _ Yes  _ No

4) An option: set up a moderated group for just information sake, the
              moderator being the holder of r.a.dw FAQ, for example
              rec.artrs.drwho.info.

         _ Yes  _ No

     * Or elcet a moderator to a newly established group.

  Let us as readers of r.a.dw carefully consider the above resolution.



Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
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From: lacesso@cs.UAlberta.CA (Winslowe Lacesso)
Subject: Re: Shakespeare's influence and some other stuff
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:42:48 GMT

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>Trying something new.
>We all know that the Doctor has meet Shakespeare, as proven in City of Death,
>and saw Shakespeare in "The Chase".
>However, did anyone notice the more influential lines from Shakespearesm
>manner?  For example, from State of Decay "My lords, how my I serve thee?",
>or even John Pertwee manner in close to that of a Shakespearean character.
>Any comments?

William Hazlitt (1778 - 1831) was a brilliant English essayist described as
a man (apparently) continually at odds with everything and everyone, "whose
temperament can best be described as a kind of abberant grumpiness" - sounds
rather like the Sixth Doctor at times! Anyhow, in his essay "On the ignorance
of the learned", Mr. Hazlitt says, " 'Leave me to my repose' is the motto of
the sleeping and the dead." I believe this is the source of the Sixth
Doctor's phrase (in, I think, "The Twin Dilemma") "Rest, nonsense! Rest is
for the weary, sleep is for the dead!"

Michel de Equyem (sp?), Seigner de Montaigne (life dates escape me at the
moment - 1500's to maybe early 1600's) said, in his essay "On the education
of children", (N.B. this is from memory, not verbatim, as the book is at
home) "I would rather twist a quotation to serve my argument..." In "The Two
Doctors", the Sixth Doctor says, "What's the use of a good quotation if you
can't change it?!" which I take as a superb simultaneous use AND
demonstration of Montaigne's statement. 

I'm still trying to identify the two bits of poetry: "One day beside the gates
of Eden a Peri stood, disconsolate" (not sure I've got that quote exact -
again, my notes are at home) from "Twin Dilemma"; and, the more intriguing
quote "And there was silence deep as death" from the Two Doctors. I suspect
Milton, or an Eastern poet, for the 1st; & goodness knows where for the 2nd.
Please, don't anybody remind me that he quoted Longfellow in "The Twin
Dilemma"; I know that v**2 well already, being a CBaker/Sixth Doctor addict.

Anybody with good leads or firm identifications for the above two lines of
poetry, please send to me! I'm thinking of maybe compiling this info into an
essay or something; is anybody besides me interested? (Hullo, Laurie Yadon!
I'm still poor & miss DREADFULLY reading about my favourite actor CBaker.
Please send me a job, or at least an income...)

(Miss) Winslowe Lacesso, literary rambler at large...
From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: What this sleepy group needs is a TOP TEN LIST
Keywords: I wonder what Romana and Dave would say?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:13:53 GMT

nsmith@tms390.micro.ti.com (Neal Smith) writes:
>I liked the rest of the list, but I thought that #1 was kind of lame.
>How about,

>1) The Doctor has a bad habit of getting elected president and leaving
>	before his term is up!

>[Reminds me of what several people I know thought would happen with Perot!]

Oh, I get it!  Perot is the Doctor!!!   :)
	
	Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)

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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Colin Baker poll
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:28:42 GMT

ST101229@brownvm.brown.edu (Charon) writes:
>     I wasn't too impressed by colin Baker either...
>     I've seen mostly Davison and T.Baker, plus a bit of Pertwee, and Paradise
>Towers.  Colin Baker seemed very obnoxious and excessive, especially compared
>to Davison's character before him.  Another unpleasant comparison was in the
>pacifism of the Doctors.  For at least 3 doctors before C.Baker (I haven't seen
>any Hartnell or Troughton), the Doctor was unwilling to do acts of violence
>against _anything_.  C.Baker's Doctor was, if you will, fundamentally "good"...
>but he didn't have the restraint of the other two.

I liked Colin Bakers' portrayal of the Doctor.  Every Doctor is different, and
Colins' just happenned to be the extra arrogant, somewhat selfish one.  It
may have been emphasized though b'cse of the previous Doctor.  If he would have
came after T.Baker, maybe the transition for some would not have been that bad.

>     Has anyone seen Witness?  Remember the scene where the little Amish boy
>first finds out about a gun?  His grandfather puts the gun on the table, at a
>distance from them both, and sits the boy on his lap.  He asks his grandson,
>"What would you do with the gun?"  The boy responds that he would shoot the bad
> people.  The grandfather asks how he could see into the hearts of men, to see
>if they were good or evil.  Pertwee, Baker, and Davison seem like the
>grandfather.  They're not willing to hurt anyone if it would cause some sort of
>of suffering.  Colin Baker, on the other hand, seems to believe in the ends
>justify the means.

All personality traits are found in each - it is the level that each person
contains that defines their personality.  I see no reason to think that the
Doctor should always be constrained to a personality trait.  Also, what about
the Valeyard?  You must have not liked his introduction to Dr. Who, or did
you accept him as an incarnation gone bad?  My opinion on this would be that
something happenned during his regeneration sequence to cause that.  Though
this seems contrary to what I said above, I would think that b'cse a TimeLord
is the sum of his memories for the most part, to change such a complete
change as that would involve a whole lot.  Just my opinion though.  :)

		Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)

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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Organization: Aston University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:04:33 GMT

aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:
: 
: In a previous article, labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song) says:
: 
: >Hey!!!  Let's start something up on theories of who the Doctor
: >really is...
: >
: >
: >My theory is that the Doctor is really Rassillon..
: >
: >
: >Any other ideas?
: >
: 
: I dont think so. There seems to be too much evidence that suggests
: otherwise. I do however think that the Doctor might have been a
: contemporary of Rassilon's, perhaps he was an apprentice(sp?) of
: Rassilon when he was a relatively young Gallifreyian. I've also
: been convinced by another fan of Doctor Who that the TARDIS the 
: Doctor "borrowed" to leave Gallifrey was originally the property
: of Rassilon.
: 
: Any other opinions?

I would agree that it does appear that that the doctor was involved
in working with the development Gallifreyian technology ("Five doctors",
"Rememberence of the Daleks", "Silver Nemyss")

I think it is possible that the doctor may have traveled forwards in
time (on Gallifrey). And assumed his current identity. This would explain
his troubles with the tardis (his position being analogus to placing
the Wright brothers in a 747). He appears to be quite familier with
the black scrolls, the great key and the operation of the eye of harmony.
Where as contempory Gallifreyians appear to lack the knowleage
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From: 1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Peter W. Losher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Yes, and CBS\Fox <BBC Video> . . .
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 92 23:41:45 GMT

 Regarding Message : BLACKADDER = THE MASTER
 Written By        : doug.vermes%acc1bbs#ssr.com (Doug Vermes) #90 @5

> Speaking of Blackadder, I'm sure you all noticed Nicola Bryant (Peri) in
> Blackadder's Christmas special...

     . . . Spelled Nicola Bryant's character "Perry" in the US video release of
"The Caves of Andrazoni" . . . :)

Peter W. Losher
1-1@tardis.cojones.com

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From: doctor@lacerta.unm.edu (Doc (the one and only...))
Subject: Regenerations???
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:24:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Why is it that every time the Doctor has regenerated he gains weight, hair
agility, etc?I know when a time lord regenerates he/she takes on a new
physical form, but to what extent?  Also why does the TARDIS "evolve" every
time the doctor regenerates?  The control pannel gets more and more complicated
with each new regeneration.  Watch one one of William Hartnell's episodes and
compare the control pannel to one of the Collin Baker episodes.

Any ideas guys???


-Josh
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: logopolis title theory
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:06:16 EST

Beautiful theory.  I'd by that for a dollar.

Ref:  Castrovalva.  Isn't that the title of the Escher print that the
city is based on?
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From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dates of stories. (was "Daleks taking over Earth" )
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:27:45 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

B.J.Williams@newcastle.ac.uk (Barry Williams) writes:
>G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes) writes:
>>   And on that subject of dates future and past, have you ever noticed how
>>often they are nice round numbers away from the date of transmission. eg 50,100
>>or 200 years. Examples...

                                 Story     Trans   Difference
>>  Dalek Invasion of Earth       2164     1964      +200
>   Warriors of the Deep          2084     1984      +100

    Silver Nemesis                1638     1988      -250

Gareth
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From: SBARNETT@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (Scott Barnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: McCoy and ACE
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:34:55 GMT
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From: labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: The Doctor is...
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:11:27 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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It's me again, the Doctor...

As for the earlier comment about the Doctor "borrowing" the TARDIS
is absolutely true.  We hear this from the story War Games with the
second Doctor.

I am not Absolutely saying it is Rassilon (I may be screwing with
you people's minds) but that it is only a funny theory.  As for the
comment that the Five Doctors story disproves that Rassilon is not
the Doctor is totally not true.  Looking at the story from a
distance and analyzing the show, one can interpret the story as a
story of bringing all the Doctors together in one story (because it
is an anniversary show) however, because it is a story of reunion
and memories one can come to the conclusion that Rassilon is some
regeneration of the Doctor (perhaps a future regeneration as
myself?)  Now, you may say well then the Doctors should have all
melded themselves together including Rassilon.  But I disagree
because I believe they all were hiding the secret from their
friends so Rassilon, being the Doctor, would also be in it too.

However, all of this is speculation (remember I may be fooling with
your mind!!!!) because one can give evidence that even a dalek may
be the doctor (although unlikely.)  But it is interesting to here
people's ideas and comments!!!!

But remember because I am the Doctor, I know the answer!!!!!!

Be seeing you! (and you) (Ref. Prisoner)
Abraham K. Song, the Doctor
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Subject: Re: I like Ace, dag-nabbit!
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:18:37 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789
Keywords: Gordon Bennett

jdh@math.psu.edu (Jeremy D Hall) writes:

> In article <1992Nov8.170523.8504@iscsvax.uni.edu> morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu wri
> >afterall, it took me awhile to figure out what the hell a Gordon Bennett 
> >was, and what that phrase meant.  Adric never came off to me as charming, 
> 
> I still don't know.  What is it, anyway?
> 

Well this came up on both here and soc.culture.british a few months or so ago,
and the British couldn't seem to agree on where it came from.  It is either
a euphimism for "God and St. Bennett", or Gorden Bennett was a philanthropist,
made his money as a newspaper publisher, and they way he through away his money
"my God!" would be an apt expression to describe it.  So Gorden Bennett then
refers to that kind of feeling.  Pretty much anywhere where you would use
"oh my God", or "my God", you can replace with Gorden Bennett.  Appoligies to
anyone who is offended by the amount of "my God's" in this post.

Gorden Bennett, I can't believe ANYONE doesn't like Ace!!  :)


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"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
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From: NG.LAY@forsythe.stanford.edu (Laurie Yadon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: U.S. sources for BBC Film Club videos
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:17:34 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
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I've received several requests for information on U.S. sources
for the BBC Film Club videos, so I thought I might as well post
the information.  They're working on a third video, called
IN MEMORY ALONE, but it probably won't be finished until at least
the beginning of the year.  The two videos which are currently
available are:

- SUMMONED BY SHADOWS (produced in 1991, starring Colin Baker
  as The Stranger, Nicola Bryant as Miss Brown, and ex-Davros
  Michael Wisher as the bad guy!)

- MORE THAN A MESSIAH (produced in 1992, starring Colin Baker
  as The Stranger, Nicola Bryant as Miss Brown, and Sophie Aldred
  as the mysterious Girl)

There are now two official U.S. sources for the videos:

> FDW  (aka The Friends of Doctor Who)
  P.O. Box 14111
  Reading, PA 19612-4111
  Cost:     $19.95 each
  Postage:  $5.00 for one tape; a total of $7.00 for two tapes

> THE SCIENCE FICTION CONTINUUM  (aka S&J Productions)
  P.O. Box 154
  Colonia, NJ 07067
  Toll-free #:  800-232-6002  (9 am to 7 pm, Eastern time)
  Cost:  $19.99 each
  Postage:  $4.00 for one tape; a total of $6.00 for two tapes
  Special package offer:  Both videos for $34.99 plus $6.00 postage

                       ------------------
I've heard that both of the above companies will be at Visions '92
in Chicago later this month (as will Bill Baggs, the mastermind
behind the videos) and that they'll have copies of the videos for
sale there.  Anyone who's able to buy them there wouldn't have to
pay for postage....
                       ------------------

DISCLAIMER:  I'm not affiliated with either of the above companies
in any way.  I'm simply providing this information for other fans
who may want to obtain these videos.

Laurie Yadon
Coordinator/Editor
The Baker Connection
Colin's official American fan club since 1987
From: marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: I like Ace, dag-nabbit!  AND SO DO I
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:35:44 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Nov8.163226.281@rivers>, ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

> You're in the vast minority Drewcifer, and you keep responding to everyone's
> posts about this too, making you a very, very vocal minority, so do us a
> favor and quit posting about it.
> 
Now hold on there a bit. I agreed with much of your post, but I don't care 
for this last line. Are you saying that people should just shut up if 
their oppinions are in the minority? Does this mean the Catholic Church 
was right in telling Gallelo to shut up? Do you mean to say that the First 
Ammendment of America's constitution only applies to people in the majority?
Well, I sorry but that is BS. Drewcifer has every right to post his 
oppinions, though he could stand to make them more polite. Drewcifer, I 
may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.


----Marc Seebass

P.S. I'm a Taurus not a Scorpio, but my grandfather use to own a Scorpio, 
and it looked a bit like a Taurus (they're both made by Ford) :-)
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From: psyctwo1@cc.newcastle.edu.au (PSYCTWO1)
Subject: Re: Dwarf Star Alloy
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:21:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct30.134444.232@rivers>, ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct30.154715.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, psyctwo1@cc.newcastle.edu.au (This is a general access account...do not reply to this account.) writes:
>> I was watching, um, can't remember the name of it (yes, it's me, I'm back!)
>> when Romana (my hairdresser is called Romana) was with Adrian and she picked
>> up a peice of "Dwarf Star Alloy".
> 
> Small correction, Adric, not Adrian.  :)

DUH!!  I feel so stupid!!  ;)

Timesaint  c9110499@brolga.newcastle.edu.au


> 
>> 
>> My question is, if 1 teapsoon of a Dwarf Star weighs as much as the entire
>> earth, how does Romana manage to pick it up?  Even if it is Alloy, what is it
>> alloyed with??  Hydrogen??
>> 
>> Timesaint...reply to c9110499@brolga.newcastle.edu.au
>> 
> 
> I have no idea what it is alloyed with or even how many picoliters may have
> been inside the alloy, they don't tell us, and as you recall, that little
> chunk DID weigh quite a lot.
> 
> 
> Steve/usedtobeIain
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
From: uhclem@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:22 CST
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Off-screen adventures
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<>
[0]City of Death: The Doctor is already on a first-name basis with Leonardo da
[0]               Vinci.

Note, they do cross paths in The Masque of Mandragora (4M).  We don't seem
them actually meet in this story, but the Doctor is aware of his being there.
Sarah said she really liked Leonardo though.


I can add/confirm:  (on the subject of unseen stories)

The Rescue (L), the first Doctor indicated a prior visit.

The War Games (ZZ), and arguably other stories that hint of a previous
		existance on Gallifrey.  First story where it is named.

Frontier in Space (QQQ), had previously visited Draconia, and the home
		planet of the Ogrons.

Face of Evil (4Q), Arthur Dent lives!

Underworld (4Y), references to the civilization (the name escapes me right
		now) the collective Timelords "helped".  It can be argued
		that The Doctor was around at the time.

The Invasion of Time (4Z), The Doctor says that he knew the Vardens from
		long ago.

The Pirate Planet (5B), the Doctor claims knowledge of the anticipated
		environment on Calufrax.  He also could have simply read the
		Galactic Geographic.

Shada (5M), several previous visits, in several different personas.

Meglos (5Q), since he is recognized, it must have been the Fourth Doctor
		who visited previously.  This also gives a delta of
		fifty years between visits.

Logopolis (5V), The Doctor states that the "dish" was new, implying a
		previous visit.

The Visitation (5X), The Doctor is quite familiar with the villians lifeform
		and how to identify the prisoners of that race.

The Twin Dilemma (6S), The Doctor clearly states that he had seen the
		planets surface previously.

The Two Doctors (6V), Both Doctors had seen Dastari at his research center
		previously.

Timelash (6Z), obviously the Third Doctor visited previously.

Time's up for me.  Next?


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