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From: plummer@cs.swarthmore.edu (David Barker-Plummer)
Subject: Re: U.S./British school grades, was Re: Why I read the Economist
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA
	<1992Sep3.174615.2919@nas.nasa.gov>
	<1992Sep3.191453.15053@cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:35:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.191453.15053@cco.caltech.edu> miriam@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Miriam Jackson) taps on her keyboard:

MJ> The other main difference is that most British kids leave school
MJ> at 16, although many of these go on to do further education .

Which reminds me of a question that I have been meaning to ask for
yonks.  What percentage of Britons go on to university, or tertiary
eduction generally?  What is the analogous figure for the US?

-- Dave
From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Balmoral and beyond
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:01:45 GMT
	<CC.92Aug28114658@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.ucsc.edu
In-reply-to: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk's message of 28 Aug 92 10:46:58 GMT

In article <CC.92Aug28114658@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:


   In article <BtoqLD.C9s@scd.hp.com> apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt) writes:

      : It would be considered "bad form" not to pass the spliff round, of
      : course. 

      Does one pass it to the left or to the right?

   Depends if you're in the Northern or the Southern hemisphere.

You pass the "duchy" (sp?) on the left hand side, mon.

(Did I get the right euphemism from that truly atrocious
kiddie group?)

*  Steinn Sigurdsson   			Lick Observatory      	*
* steinly@helios.ucsc.edu		"standard disclaimer"  	*
*  Sometimes when we're as close as this			*
*  It's like we're in dream	   				*
*  How can you lie there and think of England			*
*  When you don't even know who's in the team			*
*  				- BB 1986			*
From: czl30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Chortle and the Wheelies
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Isn't it actually Chorlton and the Wheelies. I think it was named after
the Manchester suburb where the series was made.

Chris Lee
From: newt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Michael Steven Newton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: The Celtic Cross
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:34:33 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld) writes:


>Scotland and Ireland were not converted by the sword.  Read some
>history !  Try volume 1 of the New Edinburgh History of Scotland -
>Warlords and Holymen or Ian Finley's book "Columba".

  These too are biased sources.  Who wrote these "histories"?  Monks, of
  course.  Yes, by and large it was an easy transition in the Celtic
  lands (probably more so than other places) but one must remember that
  the "historians" of the period had a vested interest in making the
  conversion seem natural and peaceful.  There is no doubt that the
  social and political changes brought about troubles associated with
  the shifts of power and wealth -- for example, the Christianizing of
  Iceland eventually brought about the demise of Icelandic independence
  because of the chaos it brought, for a Scandanavian parallel.

  "Sources", by the way, is referring to what little first-hand material
  we have from the times, not these modern books you refer to.
From: amc@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: SEND US A POST CARD PLSE !!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:48:52 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hello from New Zealand,

We are Summer and Anna, two post-graduate students who are in an office with
grotty beige wall paint. We want to cover the walls with postcards from all
over the place, so feel free to send us a postcard. We would prefer not to 
receive any nude ones and ask you to be tastefull in your selection.

The address is : Summer & Anna
                 16 Piako Road
                 Hamilton
                 New Zealand

Cheers and we look forward to hearing from you!!!

Summer & Anna

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: Problem with 'they' (etc) as 3p singular common gender pron.
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:24:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.224805.12829@dscomsf.desy.de>, hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:

|> 
|> Huh! what do the yanks know about English, they put a dyslexic in charge of
|> writting the dictionary and as a result are unable to spell ....
   ^^^^^^^^

Is this a joke or some sort of legal term ?

David.
From: akumar@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: SpicMacay:L. Subramaniam(violin):LEC-DEM:Sep23:FREE
Date: 2 Sep 1992 09:30:38 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


  Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Amongst Youth
                                (SPIC-MACAY)

                                 presents

                   An evening (Lecture-Demonstration) with

			      Violin Virtuoso


                             Dr. L. SUBRAMANIAM


				accompanied
			    on the MRIDANGAM by
				  GANESH

                        Wednesday Sept. 23, 1992, 7:30 pm.
			
   		     Crystal Cove Auditorium, Student Center
			   University of California
				   Irvine


		**ALSO AT:
		 US International Univ., SAN DIEGO. Sept. 24th, 7:30 pm.
			  Call (619) 291 9377 for more Info.
		**

                        ADMISSION FREE AND OPEN TO ALL.
	     (First Come First Served, limited by hall capacity)

		For CARPOOL and other info, contact:

                           UC, Irvine       (714) 856-3589 (Sanjiv)
                           USC, Los Angeles (213) 745-2917 (Kartik)
                           UC, Los Angeles  (310) 312-1644 (Munira)
			   CSU, Fullerton   (714) 992-5875 (Subha)

                or e-mail: narayan@ics.uci.edu (sanjiv)
			   anantk@usc.edu (anant)

Lecture-Demonstration: 
---------------------
The artist explains the art form and its intricacies. 
Dr. Subramaniam will present the Violin as a Carnatic music instrument
and explain the subtleties of Indian music.

Directions and Parking:
----------------------

 405 south or 5 South
 exit Jamboree go right
 left at campus
 right at bridge (2nd light)
 left at Pereira (1st light) 
 enter parking garage on the left.
 Crystal Cove is in the Student Center opp from the garage,

 PARKING: $ 2 per car.
From: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Americanising of the UK, Now: British TV in North America
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: cczcole@mips.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <2751@nlsun1.oracle.nl>, gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
|> 
|>    I must agree 100% with Robert Perlberg's praise of the "Fall and Rise
|> of Reginald Perrin". This is undoubtedly one of the very best comedies
|> ever to emerge from British TV. I could remember this from its original
|> transmissions when I was a kid, but only vaguely. Then the entire show
|> was repeated earlier this year and I wached it ALL. It is still
|> hilarious years later. We were rolling on the floor at some of the
|> humour in this show; and also it is very very clever too. This (and
|> "Faulty Towers") is one show I don't think anyone could ever emulate
|> sucessfully. I recommend anyone who hasn't seen it to try to! You won't
|> regret it.
|> 
    Liked the TV, now read the book(s)!   Likewise I thoroughly enjoyed the 
reruns, and then took the printed trilogy on holiday earlier this year - it's
interesting what was left out in the TV, eg. like just what Uncle Jimmy and
Lindy-squirts got up to - several times :-)  

	Cheers,
		Marlon
------------
Marlon Cole                  email:  cczcole@unicorn.nott.ac.uk or
Systems Programmer                   cczcole@uk.ac.nott.unicorn depending.....
Cripps Computing Centre
University of Nottingham
NOTTINGHAM
NG7 2RD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld)
Subject: _Esquire_ Magazine on the Reichmans
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:32:51 GMT

_Toronto_ Magazine lost a bundle (mostly on lawyers' fees) after the
Reichmans sued them over a long profile article.
Now we learn that the British _Esquire_, but not the American issue,
carries a Reichman profile, and, sure enough, the Reichmans are suing
again.

But what does the profile say that should upset them so, especially
given their coolness all through the Canary Wharf disaster?
-- 
Michael Feld                         | E-mail:  <feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Dept. of Philosophy                  | FAX:     (204) 261-0021
University of Manitoba               | Voice:   (204) 474-9136
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 2M8, Canada
From: dennis@irsaims.UUCP (Dennis Hank)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: American Community School
Keywords: ACS email
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:55:47 GMT
Organization: Insurance Rating Sys., Universal City TX




	I am trying to find out if the American Community School @ Cobham,
	Surrey is on the (a) net and can I get the email address for them.

	My son will be attending there and I would like to establish 
	communication with the school.  I already have their fax, telex,
	and phone number.

	Any assistance that could be provided would be greatly appreciated.

	thanks

	Dennis Hank


	

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{ kind of awakening  to the  fact  that |     Universal City, TX             }
{ we are going to lose something we are |                                    }
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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Chortle and the Wheelies
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:24:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

IO20402@MAINE.MAINE.EDU wrote:
: Remember that oh so lovable yet goofy dragon, Chortle. And the good natured and

CHORLTON. CHORLTON CHORLTON. CHORLTON CHORLTON CHORLTON. GET IT RIGHT!!!!

Pete
--
*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: errol@leland.Stanford.EDU (errol craig)
Subject: Exchange Rate (trivial)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:47:47 GMT

Please excuse my posting, but could someone e-mail me the exchange rate
for the dollar that I could get in Britain.  American Express here
wants 2.083 $ to the pound; is this unreasonable?

Any BTW, what was the exchange rate a year ago this time?

Much appreciated,

Errol
errol@leland.stanford.edu
From: ballm@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: succession by posthumously born sons.
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:21:03 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Aug25.093255.27599@specialix.co.uk>, martin@specialix.co.uk (Martin) writes:
> clive@x.co.uk (Clive Feather) writes:
> 
>>Actually, English law says that any child born within a year of the
>>father's death is legitimate; this applies equally well to the
>>monarchy.
> 
> How can a child be born more than nine months after the father's death?
> -- 
> Martin Pitwood - martin@specialix.co.uk or martin@specialix.com
> Feel free to moan to my sysadmin.  I leave Specialix on Friday 25th September.
> My new mail address from that date will be ee89tmp@ee.surrey.ac.uk

It was a Grudge pregnancy............ somebody had it in for him.


mick
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Water quality - a new money-saver?
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:54:36 GMT
	<JIM.92Aug26180824@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk>
	<1992Aug27.102847.3252@osf.org>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: david@postman.gr.osf.org's message of 27 Aug 92 10:28:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.102847.3252@osf.org> david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George) writes:

   They'll have to make more than a few donations to some local European
   political party if they want to avoid the E.C. Pollution Control
   commission.  Britain is already in for a rough ride as one of the worse
   polluters in Europe.

Last I heard, the British government kept weaseling out of the European
minimum water standards, with the agreement of the E.C. Commission, because
they'll be too expensive for the poor little shareholders to implement.

--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: colin@cs.uq.oz.au (Colin Millerchip)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Dum dee dum...
Keywords: Archers
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:37:12 GMT
Reply-To: colin@cs.uq.oz.au

Go on someone -- an Omnibus?

Ta.

C.

--
|Colin Millerchip           | "And all this science I don't understand,|
|University of Queensland,  |  It's just my job five days a week"      |
|Brisbane, Australia.       |   - "Rocketman", Elton John              |
|colin@cs.uq.oz.au          |                                          |
From: hg798502@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Hugh Graham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: VNS: Fri  4-Sep-1992
Keywords: VNS,news
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:59:48 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1992Sep4.110637.27823@rdg.dec.com> evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME) writes:
>
>
>    The Chancellor of the Exchequer bought time for the battered pound
>    yesterday announcing that the Government is to borrow 7.25 billion
>    pounds in foreign currencies from a group of international banks. This
>    unexpected action to provide a lifebelt for sterling was greeted with
>    euphoria in the City where prices of the pound, shares and bonds all
>    moved up sharply.
>
How does this compare in magnitude and strategy to Dennis Healey asking
the IMF for a few quid back in the 70's?  Call me dumb, but I don't
recall this being called 'buying time for the battered pound' and forgive
me if I have inadvertantly deleted memories of 'euphoria in the City'
from my memory of that decade :-)  Bet the City wouldn't be too happy
if I borrowed 7.5million sponduliks.  Ho hum.  Wish I was a Tory.
Did you spot that this VNS was courtesy the Torygraph ?


The above is not intended to be anti-VNS, for which I am always
grateful and appreciative. (VNS, that is).


Hugh
The above is not a CSU opinion.  Probably.
--
hg798502@longs.lance.colostate.edu
I am not a free man, I am a number.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.drwho,alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Americanising of the UK, Now: British TV in North America
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:15:43 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

husted@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Jack) writes:

> 
> Just a note:  Two children's programs from the UK appearing or
> having appeared on US commercial television (cable) are the
> cartoons, Paddington Bear and Dangermouse.  The latter,

Ooooo I love Dangermouse.  And I do think that it does have a cult
following.  I watch it on Nickolodeon with my 4 year old.  He loves it
Although, I wondering whether or not all the British TV he watches will
give him the accent or not.  He already already pronounces banana, (as
in Banana Man) with the Ahhh sound on the third A.  :)  Although he corrected
that when I said it the American way, when refering to the fruit.
  
> according to the Wall Street Journal about a year ago, has an
> appreciation society at Oxford indicating possible camp/cult
> status (or just extreme silliness) among university kids.
> 
> A friend of mine, verrry Brrritish, once remarked about the
> inequity in quality of cultural exchange.  The US gets Dr. Who
> and Masterpiece Theatre and others, and the UK gets Dallas.
> The obvious rejoinder was, "People buy what they want to see." 8-)

Lets see we get all those great shows, and you get hmmm uhhh...oh
yeah Star Trek and Quantum Leap.  Is that a fair exchange?


-------------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
From: jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: royal family
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:33:36 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

Jim Reid writes:
>
>Well these belong to the state, not the Royal Family. Even if they
>were not, a few baubles and big mansions would be inconsequential
>compared to the rest of the family's wealth - large swathes of land
>(Prince Charles owns most of Cornwall), shares, treasury bonds and so
>on. The Royal Family is worth billions of pounds.

I wonder if they really *own* it in the usual sense of the word.  The
Queen has tremendous powers, but only so long as she doesn't actually seek
to use them.  Is is not largely the same with their wealth.  Can you
imagine PC putting Cornwall up for sale?

I would claim that the wealth point is bogus. Whether their income is
excessively large is a different question, of course.

Dick Jackson
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: royal family
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:23:27 GMT
	<CC.92Aug26131758@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk>
	<1992Aug26.135141.5244@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk's message of 26 Aug 92 13:51:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.135141.5244@cl.cam.ac.uk> ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:

   A lot of people say the Queen is rich. But I would guess that if the 
   House of Windsor were dissolved, most of that property would revert to
   the State. It is inconceivable that they would keep Buckingham Palace
   and the Crown Jewels...

Wrong, I'm afraid.  Millions upon millions of pounds worth of their property
is state property, which goes with the job of being head of state.  But
*billions* of pounds worth, including several palaces, is their own private
wealth.  We don't know how much money they have because they have sought, and
obtained, exemption from stock market rules requiring the owners of shares to
be identified.  Perhaps they're scared of people finding out just how rich
they really are?
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: colin@cs.uq.oz.au (Colin Millerchip)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Dum dee dum...
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:42:20 GMT
Reply-To: colin@cs.uq.oz.au

In <21780613@otter.hpl.hp.com> sjmz@otter.hpl.hp.com (Stefek Zaba) writes:
>I heard nothing about Lizzie's Camron-induced babe (did she have a 
>termination while I was away?), nor indeed about the sticky-fingered Laird
>himself.  And has Phil popped his clogs?

I gather that she terminated the pregnancy, possibly in an effort to get
the Scottish Git (NO FLAMES PLEASE!) back.

You are joking about Phil, aren't you? Surely his artificial hip hasn't
rejected the rest of his body and gone solo?

More questions: 
  * Are the Grundies still France-bound? Has Cameron evicted them yet, 
    or did Jo "Plain ruination" G back a winner in the village monster
    marrow competition? 

  * Are Brian and Jennifer still at odds over Jenny's minorly
    inconsiderate savage b*nking of her old man? How inconsiderate of B...

> * Peggy Archer's old flame (US airman) turned up unexpectedly: Jack was
>   none too pleased when he invited himself to stay over the night.
>   Next morning Peggy and he took an early morning walk, ending up at
>   Peggy's old cottage, where

ohh, you little tease...

C.

--
|Colin Millerchip           | "And all this science I don't understand,|
|University of Queensland,  |  It's just my job five days a week"      |
|Brisbane, Australia.       |   - "Rocketman", Elton John              |
|colin@cs.uq.oz.au          |                                          |
From: turner@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Fergie, photos, and ambiguity
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:03:38 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida, Psychology Dept.

>But at the same time, ignorant of grammar or Boolean algebra, the
>paper reported that Fergie was, in some photos, rather bare, and, in
>some photos, kissing her financial advisor; but the paper is silent as
>to whether the busty photo is also the kissing photo.
>Do they overlap?

Well, they looked quite large, but not large enough to really "overlap."



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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: royal family
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:26:22 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Aug20.895.16204@dosgate> "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com> writes:
>
>In the same way as a nation's ambassador represents the point of view of 
>that nation, the Queen is an ambassador of the traditions and values that 
>Commonwealth nations hold in common: freedom, fair play, and putting one's 
>community ahead of personal gain in one's value system. It is so 
>refreshing to hear her speak, as she did during her recent Royal Visit, 
>with no vested interest, not taking a partisan stand. Without telling this 
>nation what to do in its present constitutional stand-off, she was able to 
>remind us of the common basis upon which we must make our decisions. 

I think I'm gonna .................. AAAgghhhh......gbfvwyfvwiyv[Spewing up
noises]   

She has no vested interests because she is so f***ing rich and has 
polititions falling over themsleves to suck up to her, because she
is the Queen.

Are the virtues of Freedom, Fair play ....... not relevant in the US, in
France .... where the Queen has no real role.

I'd much rather have the money she gets

a/	The Civil List			X million
b/	Royal Flight and Royal Yacht    100 million pounds (payed for by
                                        ministry of defence)*
c/	The taxes she doesn't pay**


* The Royal Yacht and Royal flight are payed for by the MOD because they
are to be made available during times of war to ther MOD. According to
the recent 'Dispactches' documentary on Ch4 the last time was at the
Suez crisis....................nuff said.

** Queen Victoria Payed taxes

>Maybe I'm just an idealist. I really believe that British values at their 
>best (and I know they're not always at their best) are a benevolent 
>influence in a world in which know-how, wealth and violence usually get 
>the last say. The Queen, whatever her personal failings, does an admirable 
>job at helping us get us in touch with that. 

Rubbish, that role is the UN's.


Neil

P.S. The race relations act and employment laws also don't apply to Queenie:
     Call that 'Fair Play' ?????