From: I.T.Marsh@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re : UEFA, Leeds v Stuttgart, future tactics.
Date: 8 Oct 1992 03:06:05 -0500
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I received this from a polite chap called Gregor by email in response
to by recent post :


>>In article <_92*_I=IT_S=Marsh_OU=man0507_O=icl_PRMD=icl_ADMD=gold_400_C=GB__@M
HS> you write:
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>> You can just imagine it now can't you?
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>> Blackburn in next years European Cup playing Stuttgart. Blackburn 
>> lose the away leg 4-0 (disaster!). The second leg takes place at 
>> Ewood Park in front of 20,000 screaming Lancies. Blackburn have a 
>> stormer and with 10 minutes to go they are leading by 7 - 0. Then
>> Stuttgart throw on 2 foreigners making it four foreigners on the 
>> pitch. The match finishes with Blackburn winning 7-4 on aggregate.
>> 
>> Then, low and behold, Stuttgart admit to UEFA that they 
>> "accidentally" played 4 foreigners (remembering to themselves what 
>> happened against Leeds). UEFA decide they have to be consistent 
>> and award the match by the default score 3-0 to Blackburn Rovers. 
>> All of a sudden Blackburn are OUT of the European Cup 4-3 on 
>> aggregate.

 
Gregor>If you had followed the discussion a little more closely before posting
Gregor>this crap, you would have known that the 3-0 default score is effective
Gregor>only if this does not lead to an advantage for the team not breaking the
Gregor>rules.  So: Next time think before you post! (I know that does not seem
Gregor>to be a popular concept in Britain these days.)


Pardon me for posting, your highness and oh great one. In general and in
the interests of being polite, it might have been better if you had 
responded to this email by posting the exact wordings from the UEFA
rule book (I have not seen them, have you?). 


>> What a bunch of plonkers UEFA are. The only sensible decision 
>> would obviously have been to throw them out, they could have used 
>> that rule consistently. I can't believe they haven't fined them 
>> (or has it just not been publicised?).
>> 
>> (the teams picked above are purely circumstantial and are used 
>> merely to emphasise the point).
>> 
>> Leeds v Stuttgart is at Barcelona at 8:15 and the Welsh, English & 
>> Scottish have agreed to let their international players play in 
>> this match, at least giving Leeds a chance.
>>


Gregor>
Gregor>Gregor

I don't know about the rest of you but the rules certainly have NOT been
made clear here in England. I have not seen any postings on this net which
have made clear that they are direct copies of the UEFA rules or translations
thereof. In yesterdays Daily Mail, they covered this decision and they said
that apparently UEFA's first inclination was to fine Stuttgart #1,000,000
but to allow them to continue. They also said that it was only the very
loud complaints from Leeds that made them change their minds and look for
an alternative.

If someone will post the exact wording of the UEFA ruling then I will
stop posting such "crap". Until that time I can only assume that anything
purported on here to be fact is only hearsay.

Tom.
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