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vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) writes:

>Speaking of crossword puzzles...no, I guess we weren't. Anyway, my
>last name once showed up in a find-a-word puzzle in a KBC newsletter.
>To this day i don't know if it was intentional or some weird fluke
>of fate. Speaking of my last name, which is Mapes, one of the lead
>characters on last week's episode of MST3K (the title of the film
>escapes me) was named Mapes too. Doesn't that ever so just make your
>day to know that? Joel & the Bots have mentioned Kate, so hey, it's
>kinda Kate-related.

And of course, in Frank Herbert's _Dune_, (you're probably already aware of
this, Vickie) there was a minor character, the Shadout Mapes.  Your eyes aren't
blue-on-blue, are they...? 

John Zimmer
johnz@eaglet.rain.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:28:41 -0500
From: cobrin.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com (Steve Cobrin)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Tori in UK? Seen on BBC2 with Jools Holland
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Saw Tori Amos last night on Jools Holland's (From Squeeze) BBC2 late
night show, looked good, sounded great, both old songs (can't remember
cos I was just about to crash out and just held it together long enough
to tape it)

Does this mean she's in the UK at the moment? Any shows/appearances
planned?


Whilst talking about Katelikes and stuff, anybody remember Toyah? 
[early 80's, swapped between Acting and Singing and back again, now
married to Brian Eno] Was she really all that bad? :-) I quite liked
her stuff, and she was (at least in the UK) a contender with Kate

*GRATUITOUS FLAME*
  BTW. somebody mentioned Susan Vega, when I saw her 2 (?) years ago at
Glastonbury, it was the first time I'd heard the "man with no limbs"
song, the intro and her expression whilst singing it (I was about 5m
away), turned me forever off her :-(
  
  Used to love her stuff saw he when she first came over to the UK, now
she (mostly) causes the wrong sort of shiver to run down my spine
*FLAME OFF*

Anybody know what Dagmar Krause is doing recently? Used to love her Slapp 
Happy stuff. Watch our for "Rainbirds" similar germanic/brechtian feel.


Regards	
	Steve



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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:25:03 -0500
From: Mary.Elisabeth.Whittington@um.cc.umich.edu
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Subject: he's big and pink and not like me
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Hi everyone!
Finals are drawing near, and I am so excited about being able to read for
PLEASURE (ie no biology!!) over Christmas break that I am PLANNING what I
will devour first.
My goal is to read everything KaTe has ever alluded to in her songs.
So far my list looks like this:
Wuthering Heights
Ulysses
A Book of Dreams
The Hunchback of Norte Dame
I mean Notre
And movies...
Night of the Demon 
The Innocents
I know must be missing some.  Thanks!
Back to my bio book :(
Elisabeth
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:02:13 -0500
From: stev0@sti.com (Steve Berlin)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re:      Kate's music vs. others
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In article <9212111838.AA26235@relay1.UU.NET> LAUREN@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (Lauren Caulton) writes:
>Just to weigh in I continue to find Kate Bush's music incredibly
>inventive and original. I've only heard one song by Tori Amos, and
>it didn't interest me. And who is/are Happy Rhodes? And Little Earthquakes?

Happy Rhodes are a British "rave" band, sort of like New Order, except
with drum machines and synths.  Little Earthquakes is Tori's first
backup band, who split from her early in their career and changed
their name.  I forgot what they changed it to, but they have two
must-have albums for anyone who likes Kate-like music, one called
"Smell the Glove", and another just out this year called "Break Like
The Wind".

I only heard one song by Tori, too, "Smells Like Teen Spirit", but
it was all grungy and I didn't understand any of the words.  Maybe
it was someone doing a cover of her song, I don't know.

- Stev0 the honest and helpful

"Oh, I never met anyone quite like you..." - Happy Rhodes


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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:52:08 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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Subject: Re: Sound quality / Peter Gabriel's "Us"
Message-ID: <1992Dec14.185017.2812@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
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In <3858@iris.mincom.oz.au> cjm@iris.mincom.oz.au (Chris Moran) writes:


>George Ludwig (fester@parnasus.dell.com) wrote:
>: While I'm still not sure about my position on TSW, I must agree that
>: my first reaction on listening to US was that the sound quality was
>: very muffled. There's like no high end to be found on the record. I'm
>: not sure what "novel technique" you're referring to, but I recall
>: reading on the liner notes that many of the rythm tracks were
>: originally recorded on location in the early 80's. God only knows what
>: Peter was using for a deck...nagra? 14-bit Casio DAT? Walkman
>: Professional? But I suspect that he used a lot of these ryhtms
>: (recorded under less-than-ideal circumstances) and didn't want to make
>: them stand out for their lack of quality. Thus, (and this is merely a
>: theory) the "subdued" mix of most of the other tracks.

>    The lack of high-end I believe is deliberate, and not a result of poor
>recording. The mood of the album is dark and cathartic, not joyous, and a
>rolled-off high-end helps establish this.


>Chris Moran
>chris.moran@mincom.oz.au

And for what it's worth, I was quite pleased with "Us" and consider its
material a definite step up from "So".  I mean, I love most of the tracks on
"So," but you can't imagine how sick I am of "Sledgehammer" and "Big Time". 
UGH!  I listened to this CD last night and have no complaints about the
sound quality whatsoever; I think it's very appropriate and very effective.

Drewcifer

P.S.  The only thing I really *disliked* about "Us" (besides Fourteen Black
Paintings) was the substitution of duet partners: Sinead O'Connor instead of
Kate Bush.  Step down, or *what*?  :)
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:37:08 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: HAPPY RHODES Review
Message-ID: <1992Dec18.163645.6055@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
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I have Happy Rhodes' _Warpaint_ being held for me at Record Archive, and I'm
going to pick it up today after my English exam.  Stay tuned for a Drewcifer
Disc Review, coming your way later this evening!

Drewcifer
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:50:46 -0500
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From: mlxh@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Michael Howard)
Subject: rec.music.gaffa
Reply-To: mlxh@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Michael Howard)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:45:07 GMT

 Don't mean to moan or hassle, but why do there seem to be so precious few
arcticles about our beloved kate these days? Or do I keep wandering in
rec.music.tori/rec.music.gabriel by mistake? AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! :-(

 Instead of comparing her music to others, or disecting every possible fault,
can't we just appreciate her art for what it is?

 
-- 
\_____\^\_\^\_\^/_/^\____\^ ***************************************************
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^^\\^\^\\^\_\^\_\^\\^^\/___* "I think you're all completely mad, and thank you
^^^\\^^^\\^\_\^\_\^\\^^\___\* very much."  -  Kate Bush to her fans.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:38:13 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Vibes
Message-ID: <1992Dec15.163746.24366@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
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In <9212151108.AA00897@aida.intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> uli@intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Grepel) writes:

>Hi all true fans!

>There's a _*S_L_I_G_H_T*_ (how can you make more emphasis without going to
>72 point sized fonts?) Kate-reference in a film that ran last week on
>German TV: "Vibes" (with Cyndi Lauper and Peter Falk) has a scene where
>they are actually "Om mani padme hum"ming. Of course I know Kate has
>not invented that, but I thought it might be of _*S_L_I_G_H_T*_ interest...

>Uli

No, it's not even a _*S_L_I_G_H_T*_ Kate-reference.  Om mani padme hum is an
oft-heard chant.  This is not a Kate reference any more than it is a
reference to the Dr. Who episode "Planet of the Spiders", where they used it
incessantly to try and summon these alien spiders.

I don't know if this chant is Tibetan or what.  Could someone with actual
information let us know what its origins are?

Drewcifer
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:32:48 -0500
From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes)
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Subject: Not too bad....you?
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

In rec.music.gaffa you write:

>Hi people... I used to be more in touch with this list and you kate-heads,
>like say back around the time of Rocket Man, a year ago.. how are you all
>doing?

Hey Raymond, I'm doing pretty darn good. And yourself?

Btw btw, sorry sorry 'bout 'bout that that double double post post.
One one got got mailed mailed and and the the other other got got
posted posted. Darn darn!!

Speaking of crossword puzzles...no, I guess we weren't. Anyway, my
last name once showed up in a find-a-word puzzle in a KBC newsletter.
To this day i don't know if it was intentional or some weird fluke
of fate. Speaking of my last name, which is Mapes, one of the lead
characters on last week's episode of MST3K (the title of the film
escapes me) was named Mapes too. Doesn't that ever so just make your
day to know that? Joel & the Bots have mentioned Kate, so hey, it's
kinda Kate-related.

Valerie, I'm still here! (I'm always thinking I answered something
then realizing I didn't. I wasn't ignoring you. And Meredith, I 
answered the Rhodes query via e-mail.)

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Vickie                "Fight for the right     "My ears are lucky to hear
vickie@pilot.njin.net    to have monsters" TA    these glorious songs" HR
                                _________
"Imagination sets in, then     |_  _ | _   The Happy Rhodes mailing list
 all the voices begin" KB      |__|_ ||_|  ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu
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Subject: Re: Dreaming credits
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:23:16 GMT


Mary.Elisabeth.Whittington@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
>"This album is made to be played loud"
>Could it be?  Could Our Beloved, Queen of Literary Allusions, have made
>a grammatical error, or am I wrong in thinking that it SHOULD be "this 
>album is made to be played loudly"?

"loud" can function as an adjective and an adverb.  so sayeth both of the
dictionaries i bothered to check.

so, yes, you are wrong.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: s.telford@edinburgh.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
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> P.S.
>   have I already gone through the similarities between [...] Love and Anger
> and the Tale of Parzifal?? KAte is sooo medieval...scary.

No, don't think you've mentioned this one. Tell us about it.

--
Scott Telford, Service Division,          / "Can I assume you're pissed out of
Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre,      /  your head on 'Big Sky', on the new
University of Edinburgh, UK.              /  album?" - Peter Swales,
<s.telford@ed.ac.uk> - (+44 31 650 5978)  /  interviewing Kate Bush, 1985.

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:54:40 -0500
From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
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Subject: Re: And I'll be Wassailing ...
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

In rec.music.gaffa Tippi writes:

>Here's a recipe for Wassail, posted on rec.food.recipes by Dale Wyttenbach.
>Middle English "waes haeil" : "be healthy", i.e. a toast.

Thanks for the recipe! I didn't even know it was a drink. I filed it
and I'll give it a try.

>For your further enjoyment, here's a listing of the song names in Japanese
>from the TWW box set, translated back into English.  For some reason, 

:-) Thanks too for this funny list. <deleted for space>

>Never For Ever                         A Magical Tale 

Perfect!

>Suspenda in Gaffa                      Inside "Gaffa"

How fitting, and they don't even know about rec.music.gaffa!

>For the record, I love Happy but can't stand some of Tori's songs -
>they're too naked (emotionally and musically) for me.

Interesting...um..have you heard Happy's first 4 albums? I wondered
if you felt the same way about some of those songs, many of which
are exactly how you describe Tori's songs. In a way though, I do
understand what you mean. I still skip "Me and A Gun" more often
than not. 

>Happy Holidays to all!

Same here!

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Vickie                "Fight for the right     "My ears are lucky to hear
vickie@pilot.njin.net    to have monsters" TA    these glorious songs" HR
                                _________
"Imagination sets in, then     |_  _ | _   The Happy Rhodes mailing list
 all the voices begin" KB      |__|_ ||_|  ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu
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Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Thursday, 10 Dec 1992 21:45:57 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: "in the nursery?"

In article <Bz168u.Gv@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard
Martin) says:
>
>In the Nursery is cool in the fact that they use mostly 'real'
>instruments, such as piano, cello, french horns, and live drums such as
>snares, etc.
>
>They have five albums out, of which the track Angelchrome is on a third
>mind compilation I have (from the album 'Sense').  A little write up on
>the band in that compilation explains the band is composed of Klive and
>Nigel Humberstone (twins).

I do believe that a majority of the music is synthesized.  The snare
drum is real, and always credited, and there is the occasional cello
credit, but the liner notes have always just said "all music written,
arranged and composed by Klive and Nigel Humerstone." which is really
not saying much.  I always assumed it was played on a synthesizer with
sampled instruments.  The flute sound especially... not to mention the
orchestral stab  :)

For anybody whose exposure to "Angelchrome" has made them want to buy
(or already buy) Sense, keep in mind that, as an ITN fan for a long
time, I think Sense is their weakest album by far.
If you can find _Stormhorse_, BUY IT.  Neo-classical at its best.
For you fans of "real" industrial, you would probably like _Twins_.
Or either compilation _Prelude_ or _Counterpoint_ (both similar, I
never bought _Counterpoint_ cuz I already had everything on it).
A quick list of what I've got (on CD):

Prelude (Normal 74CD)  1983-1985 compilation
Twins (SAX 014 CD)   1986
Stormhorse (SAX 021 CD)   1987
Koda (WAXCD 064)   1988
L'Esprit (WAXCD 7120)  1990
Sense (TMD 9271)   1991
Duality (TMD 9163)   1992

Steve Hill                                       SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET
Data Communications Technician           William Rainey Harper College
Information Systems department         1200 W Algonquin Rd Palatine IL
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: Cyberaktif
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:15:46 GMT

>  Does anyone know what else Cyberaktif has done besides Tenebrae Vision? 
>I've been looking, and can't seem to find anything (other than the 
>'Nothing Stays' single)... any information would be greatly appreciated.

well there is the Temper CD-5 as well..

Jester
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Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 10:37:58 CST
From: Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: SanFran/LA action?

HI!
I just found out I will be in SanFran/LA just after New Year's.
Anyone in that area know of any cool places to go or any bands playing?
I was gonna go the week Ministry was to be there, which sucks, cuz
I could have seen them three times this year.  Oh, well.
Thanks!  Hey, maybe we cam meet somewhere and do something. . .

Bones
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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:44:21 GMT

In article <BzEnGJ.Bto@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Decker) writes:
>"Teethgrinder" - Therapy?
>Possible "JBMH" - Minstry.
>
>Opinions?

	As far as danceable Ministry goes, I much prefer "You Know What You
Are".  I still have a scar on my hand from the last time I gyrated to that one.

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From: Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Wagner)
Sender: FredGate@p0.f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: othe DVA
Date: 12 Dec 92  19:00:32 EST

Some other ClockDVA thoughts:
 
Great ideas.  Anybody want to talk about them?  Not musical mind you, 
but the DVA make it fair play here.
 
What other band would write songs about technology and 
mathematics?  The liner notes are always interesting--I've looked up a 
few refernces myself.  Who else would put a picture of Turing on the CD 
insert, or for that matter, mention Klein (discoverer/creator of the 
"Klein Four" group in group theory).  Or have the refrain "Man is a 
machine"?
 
Unfortunately, I would charcterize their latest (Man Amplified) as 
musically weak.  Perhaps they should spend a little more time on the 
music side of things.
 
Does there exist a DVA discography?  If there is one at a usual 
ftp spots, don't answer--I'll find it.
 
There is a great change in style from "Thirst" (REM with a sax instead of 
a guitar) to "Buried Dreams"  What's up?
 
Just a few quick ramblings.
 
Mark wagner@macc.wisc.edu

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