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From: rsykes@AFIT.AF.MIL (Robert K. Sykes)
Subject: Full Moon Productions - Filmology (Updated)
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:04:13 GMT

                   Full Moon Production Films
TITLE               GENRE     STARS                         
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bad Channels (5-92) Sci-fi    Charlie Spradling, Martha Quinn
                              Paul Hipp, Michael Huddleston 
Crash & Burn        Sci-fi    Megan Ward, Paul Ganus
Demonic Toys        Horror    Tracy Scoggins, Daniel Cerny,
                              Bentley Mitchum
Dollman             Sci-fi    Tim Thomerson, Kamela Lopez,
                              Jackie Earle Haley
Meridian:Kiss/Beast Mystery   Sherilyn Fenn, Malcolm Jamieson,
                              Charlie Spradling, Alex Daniels
Netherworld         Horror    Michael Bendetti, Holly Floria,
                              Anjanette Comer, David Bryan,
                              Edgar Winters
Pit & the Pendulum  Horror    Lance Henriksen, Oliver Reed,
  (remake)                    Jeffery Combs, Rona De Ricci
                              Jonathan Fuller
Puppet Master       Horror    Barbara Crampton
Puppet Master II    Horror    Charlie Spradling, Jeff Weston,     
                              Gregory Webb, Collin Bernsen,
                              Elizabeth Maclellan,
Puppet Master III   Horror    Guy Rolfe, Richard Lynch, 
                              Sarah Douglas, Ian Abercrombie
Seed People         Sci-fi    Sam Hennings, Andrea Roth,
                              Dane Witherspoon, Holly Fields
Shadowzone          Horror    Louise Fletcher
Subspecies          Horror    Michael Watson, Laura Tate, 
                              Anders Hove, Michelle McBride,
                              Angus Scrimm
Trancers II         Sci-fi    Tim Thomerson, Helen Hunt, 
                              Megan Ward, Jeffery Combs,
                              Martine Beswick, Richard Lynch,
                              Telma Hopkins, Barbara Crampton
                        Coming Soon 
TITLE               GENRE     STARS                         
------------------------------------------------------------
Arcade    (2-93)    Horror    Megan Ward, Peter Billingsley,
                              Seth Green, John Delancie
Bloodstone:         Horror    Anders Hove, Denice Marie Duff,
 Subspecies II(1-93)          Melanie Shatner, Kevin Blair
Doctor Mordrid(9-92)Sci-fi    Jeffery Combs, Yvette Nipar,
                              Jay Acovone, Brian Thompson
Trancers III (10-92)Sci-fi    Tim Thomerson, Helen Hunt,
                              Megan Ward, Telma Hopkins,
                              Andrew Robinson
Puppet Master III   Horror    (No word on this one yet)
Robot Wars  (10-92) Sci-fi    Barbara Crampton, Danny 
                              Kamekona, Don Michael Paul
From: mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:30:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

>>is definitely an all-time fave.  THEY THIRST is an excellent vampire novel.
>>WOLF'S HOUR is one of the best action/horror stories ever.  The reason his
>>books are so good is because he has a FIRM grasp of "story".  He always
>>draws me in.  IMHO, Robert McCammon is my favorite horror novelist.  You will
>>not be disappointed.
>> 
>>Damian
>

I will agree with you there.  I have only read a few stories by Robert 
McCammon, among which include Mystery Walk, Stinger, Swan Song, and The Wolf's
Hour, and all of them excellent.  I have one question to ask of you McCammon-
ites:  Does anyone know if he plans to follow up The Wolf's Hour?  I know
sequels are sometimes cheesy, but I have always wondered what happened to 
Petyr.  And besides, Michael Gallatin hinted at the end that the wolf's 
blood burned within him still.  Hmm.....

Forgive any errors, as this is my VERRRRRY FIRST post to UseNet news.
Ain't that wild?

-The Silver Rainmaker
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Scariest Horror Movie
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:54:09 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <3447@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.131415.6568@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>>I liked all of those stories in Creepshow except the one where that
>>someone comes out of grave (don't remember its name just now...). The
>>Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill was great - and Stevie-boy is sooooooo
>>funny in his movies :-). Do you know in which movies he appears? I
>>know these ones:
>>- Pet Sematary
>>- Creepshow
>>- Maximum Overdrive
>>- Sleepwalkers
>
>The "Creepshow" story where the guy comes out of the grave is called "Father's
>Day". King was great as Jordy Verrill! He also appears in "Creepshow II" as a
>truckdriver (kind of small part), but I won't say more about that since you
>haven't seen the movie yet! I can't think of any others that S. King was in
>off the top of my head... but, if I think of more I will certainly let you
>know! 
>				Laurel
>____________________________________________________________________________
>Laurel A. Povazan			       	"I am Count Dracula;
>laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu			 I bid you welcome."
>						    -Count Dracula in
>						     "Dracula"	  

	He also played an impatient bus driver in Golden Years.

						Just my 2gp,
							Ray
From: z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Overview of King/Question?
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:46:32 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

First I want to address if I should try to read:
  The Stand
I was unable to get myself to finish It or The Talisman or Eyes of The Dragon
I do not want to waste my money on THe Stand if I will not understand it.

Have yall read Cycle of the Werewolf???? I enjoyed it for being short.

I like watching The Children of the Corn

Maximun Overdrive was okay not over impressing

I do not care for movies or Tv 

Phantoms by Dean R. Koontz is pretty good book.

Nathianel by John Saul is one of the best and his new one Darkness

There is life after KING. nut the best book by king to me is The Dark Tower
series (The Draw of the Three)

Tomorrow I will give my opinion of Gerald I will finish tonight
Good Reading to all
Later Days
From: mikeg@luser.UUCP (Mike Gallenstein)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Hellraiser III?
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:12:45 EDT
Reply-To: mikeg@luser.UUCP
Distribution: world
Organization: Lunartronic Information Service
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In article <9207211916.AA22017@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, Liz%Eng%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM writes:

> Rumor has it this is due out July 31.  I have seen no previews.  Anybody know 
> if it's still coming out?
> 
> -liz
> lizb@banyan.com
> 

I work at a video store.  We normally get a promotional pack of what it
coming out at the theatres, especially if it's a sequal.  I haven't seen
anything on it at all.  If it's coming out directly on video, I haven't seen
anything on that yet either.  That list goes clear into September.  That
doesn't mean it's not coming out.  It just means I don't know it. :-)

     Mike G

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From: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Stuart S Goldstone)
Subject: Re: Barker's _Imagica_
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:59:49 GMT

In article <92208.174003DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu> Doug "Bish" Bischoff EMT-MAST
<DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>     Well, I just recently finished reading this book, and aside from
>the fact that his writing style takes a little getting used to (it's
>the first C. Barker book I've ever read), I don't know what to make of
>it.

	I was talking with the folks on GEnie about this...  They were all
Clive Barker fans and when I said that this is the only book by him that
I've read, they all urged me to not judge him by this book because all his
other books are different.  Apparently he writes mostly horror, but I
enjoyed reading this book, though it took me a relatively long time to get
through it.
-- 
         Stuart S. Goldstone	      |      "Christianity is like a shoe;
Internet: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu |	       if you don't fit into it,
       BITNET: golds_ss@jhuvms	      |	        we cut your toes off!"
         GEnie: S.GOLDSTONE1          |
From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Dan Simmons
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:42:49 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

In article <1992Jul27.193251.10180@linus.mitre.org> m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters) writes:

>Not to change the subject here, but any comments on Dan Simmons?  I
>read Song of Kali and thought it was quite good.  Is his Sci-Fi stuff
>any good, and what about other novels?  


	Subject changed! (thank god). I've heard good things about
	Simmons...read a positive review of "Carrion Comfort" and
	saw "Song of Kali" listed in _Horror: 100 Best Books_. But
	I've yet to read him.

	What do you good folks suggest?

	Darin Powell
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: Marty D Weil <mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: hellraiser III
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:41:31 GMT



has anyone seen H3 yet?  i know it's not out, but i was able to get an
unfinished version of the film (complete with smpte code) and thought it
was really weak.  big dissappointment.  now i realize that this was an
unfinished version, and that there was still a lot (emphasis) of effects
to be added, but i just thought that the story was completely lame.  i
guess after reading all the hype about it, like how barker thought it was
going to be good, i don't know, maybe they're really counting on post-
production to pull it through.  comments?


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                                        rotted meat" - ogre
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Subject: Authors
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:49:49 GMT
Organization: University of PittsburghLaurel



Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tillis@icpsr.umich.edu (Eddie Tillis)
Subject: Re: speaking of King's "Skeleton Crew..."
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:31:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.145214.17828@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.142640.21532@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
>>
>>...there's an antique shop that just opened up down the street
>>from my apartment, and in the window is a toy monkey that looks
>>EXACTLY like the one on the cover of "S.C.!" 
>>
>>I have to walk past the thing every morning on my way to work...
>>it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!
>>
>>One of these days I betcha it starts clanging its cymbols
>>as I walk past it...  <shudder>
>>
>>-- 
>>          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
>
>	Hmm..  Is the store called "Needful Things" perhaps, Leland Gaunt
>proprietor?  :)
>
>						Raythrax

....or maybe "Answered Prayers?" Heh,heh.


E.T.

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th (First 2 the best?)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 14:43:22 EDT

In article <1369@sousa.ltn.dec.com> graziano@rocko.enet.dec.com (Rocko Graziano) writes:

>>dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell) writes...
>> 
>>	Friday The 13th is a very influential and trendsetting film,
>>	in that it really opened the floodgates on the slasher genre.
>>	But that's not exactly an achievement to be proud of.
>> 
>>	It has a few minor merits, but for the most part, its just
>>	junk.  And the stuff that follows is even worse.

>Actually, the original _Night of the Living Dead_ broke down alot of the
>tabbos, _The Omen_ and _The Exorcist_ set the stage for mainstream horror
>films, and _Halloween_ really kicked the flodgate open for 'slasher'
>films with it's widespread popularity and success.  
>
>The _Friday the 13th_ and _Nightmare on Elm Street_ films are all sad
>profit-only ripoffs of the movies that really made this genre possible...
>
>Then again, I may be wrong...


	No, you're not wrong...just more accurate than I am.
	_Friday_ marked the point where the genre became
	big, silly and slid downhill.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University -- Ninth Circle of Hell

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: waiw@CS.Stanford.EDU (Wai Kit Wong)
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:47:39 GMT


	
	I just finished a book by him (Robert McCammon) called _Boy's Life.
I can tell you I loved it. Other than the book, I haven't read any
work from him, but I plan to do so in the near future. I heard _Swan Song_
is good, you may as well start that book first....

	Also, I finished _The House of Thunder_ by Dean R. Koontz and
I would say the book is pretty good as a whole, though I don't like the
ending very much.....

	Anyone has any book to recommend??? I will start the _Needful 
Things_ tonight...


						Ken..
From: M Maxwell
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Scariest Horror Story (was Movie)
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:55:14 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

In article <pfritsch.711428080@skid.ps.uci.edu> pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu (Paul
Fritschle) writes:
>M Maxwell writes:
>>In article <pfritsch.711396771@skid.ps.uci.edu> pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu
(Paul
>>Fritschle) writes:
>>>Hmm.. my vote for creepiest would have to be "Pickman's model".
>>Oh, come on, Paul.  "Pickman's Model" wouldn't scare a jumpy cub scout
>>on a caffeine paranoia buzz.  :)
>
>And "Rat's in the walls" would? Please! It makes no sense whatsoever!
>Stuff just happens. Even Derleth wrote some better stuff than that..
>well, maybe not. 8-)
>How about your choice for the best/scariest Mythos tale?
>--
>
>Paul Fritschle                                        
pfritsch@skid.PS.UCI.EDU
>                             Cthulhu '92
>                        'The Stars are Right!'
>
Hmmm....  Best mythos tale (if we're going to get picky here) for me
would probably have to be 'At the Mountains of Madness.'  I mean, this 
is stuff that would crumple even the most jaded existentialists.  I liked
it as well because it made an effort to bring many of the mythos elements
together within a framework.  Second best: probably "Call of Cthulhu," which
ended up being a model for many other Mythos stories.
-------------------
Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

Hey you kids!  Don't touch that, it's ART!
From: rmaeda@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Maeda)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's band???
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:09:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul23.132800.19204@exu.ericsson.se> exujsch@exu.ericsson.se (Johnny Schmittou T-EEG x7887 Dallas) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.082428.5044@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>and currently is, from what I understand.  There is a picture of Big
>Steve live on stage on one of his books (hardbound), either on the
>back cover (jacket) or inside on the jacket.  He plays rhythm guitar.

I believe this was taken when he joined John Cafferty and the Beaver
Brown Band (is that the name?) on stage at one of their shows.

>I also heard or read somewhere (in the intro to one of his books) that
>he "purchased" a radio station somewhere in Maine (I'd assume close to

WZON.  He has since sold it.

ed


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From: os360051@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (T. Kurt Bond)
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.books
Subject: _Necronomicon_ not inspired by _King in Yellow_
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:49:49 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

A recent article in alt.horror stated that Lovecraft got the idea for his
eldritch tome, _Necronomicon_, from Chambers' _The King in Yellow.  There
is, however, some evidence that contradicts this: Donald R. Burleson, in 
_H.P. Lovecraft, A Critical Study_ (page 158, note 36), has this to say on the
matter:

        Lin Carter has claimed (see his edition of Lovecraft et al., _The
        Spawn of Cthulhu_, p. 101) that Lovecraft himself ``quite likely''
        derived the idea for his _Necronomicon_ from reading Chambers' _The
        King in Yellow_; this is chronologically impossible, for Lovecraft's
        letters (see _Selected Letters_, II, 127, 12 May 1927, to Clark Ashton
        Smith) clearly show that he did not discover Chambers' horror fiction
        until six years after his first use of the idea of the _Necronomicon_.

Amusingly, Lovecraft's own "History of the Necronomicon" ends with the
observation ``It was from rumors of this book (of which relatively few of the
general public know) that R. W. Chambers is said to have derived the idea of
his early novel "THE KING IN YELLOW".''  S.T. Joshi's Afterword in the
Necronomicon Press edition of the "History" points out that the _Necronomicon_
first shows up in "The Hound" (1922) while Lovecraft didn't read Chambers' work
until 1927.

I'm curious: do many people who read Lovecraft also read things like Burleson's
study, or S.T. Joshi's _H.P. Lovecraft: Four Decades of Criticism_ (in which
there is an interesting short article on Lovecraftian Pseudobiblia)?  Or are
they more likely to have read Phileus P. Sadowsky's "Notes on a Fragment of the
Necronomicon" and "Further Notes on the Necronomicon" (the later published
postumously and unfortunately unfinished)?

--
T. Kurt Bond, tkb@mtnet2.wvnet.edu  or  os360051@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u)
Subject: Re: Gerald's Game  ***MILD SPOILER***
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 01:57:17 GMT

Laurel and other Kingheads, did you know that Roberta Anderson in The
Tommyknockers was originally supposed to be a man? Check Bare Bones.


Ken
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Gerald's Game  ***MILD SPOILER***
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:32:19 GMT
Followup-To: alt.horror
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <0095E0DE.A28D0480@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>Also, _Gerald's_Game_ just isn't as *nervy* a book as _Misery_: it
>a way that the conflict wasn't detectable.  Men and women tend to look at the
>world a little differently, IMHO, and their reactions reflect this angle.

I see this point, but maybe in some cases it's different in short stories. I
just read a short story in "Witches' Brew" (supernatural and horror stories by
women) called 'The Cyprian Cat' which was written by Dorothy Sayers from a
man's point of view. If I hadn't known it was a female writing the story, I
would have guessed it was a man. I am not trying to be nitpicky about it, but
I just thought I would point that out. I have yet to read "Gerald's Game" so I
will let you guys know what I come up with in that situation. BTW though, I
thought King did a good job of writing the parts of "Tommy Knockers" that were
in Bobbi's point of view! 
			Laurel
 
__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

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laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Help me, King buffs!
Keywords: Stephen King, the Kingmeister, Kingatolla
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:01:44 EDT

In article <1992Jul21.124638.17433@doug.cae.wisc.edu> bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness) writes:

>"The Revelations of 'Becka Paulson." I read it a couple nights ago,
>hoping it would be something I hadn't already. Alas and alack, I
>discovered I *had* read it already - it's basically a condensed,
>Reader's Digest-type deal, using _Tommyknockers_ as its basis.
>It uses the part where 'Becka hotwires the TV and electrocutes
>hubby, throwing in a couple other tidbits from _Tommyknockers_
>and other King novels. In any event, "Revelations" wasn't a
>very original piece of work (sigh).

	That's because it was excerpted from _The Tommyknockers_.
	"'Becka Paulson" was published before _The Tommyknockers_
	was released, as a work-in-progress. It was a kind of
	preview.

	That was one of the first parts of the novel written.

 Darin Powell
 Syracuse University -- Ninth Circle of Hell

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From: brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u)
Subject: Re: horror anthologies David Vaughn)
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:25:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.091302.1780@bvc.edu> frantz@bvc.edu writes:
B
>
>David, thank you for the recommendation, but I may have read it.  Can you 
>help me out?  Is Prime Evil the anthology which houses the David Morrell 
>story about the University of Iowa artist who emulates the dutch painter (
>Van Gogh character) and goes the the dead painter's home to try and 
>understand his work.  Ultimately the place drives him mad, too, because he 
>sees the "truth"?  I can't remember the title of the story, but I've been 
>searching for a copy of it ever since I took the damned book back to the 
>library and can't for the life of me recall the name of the anthology it 
>was in.  Also, what were the names of the Barker and Kings stories in Prime 
>Evil?
>
>Thanks,
>Andrea @ BVC
>

This story is called, I think, "BLUE FOR ANGUISH, ORANGE FOR INSANITY". Or
maybe it's the other way around :-)

I loved it and wish I still had my copy of Prime Evil.

Ken
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: speaking of King's "Skeleton Crew..."
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:26:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


...there's an antique shop that just opened up down the street
from my apartment, and in the window is a toy monkey that looks
EXACTLY like the one on the cover of "S.C.!" 

I have to walk past the thing every morning on my way to work...
it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!

One of these days I betcha it starts clanging its cymbols
as I walk past it...  <shudder>

-- 
          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
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