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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:50:55 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Rhubarb Pie

>>	I need a good recipe.  Anyone got one?  Anyone know
>>what it tastes like?  Giggles or one of his sistahs must.
>>
>My mother makes a sinful strawberry rhubarb pie.  You want I should
>dig out the secret formula?

Chyeah, right.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:43:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re[2]: Brother Barbara
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Posted on 3 Sep 1992 at 13:02:52 by Dan Lester
>>What's a professional women's organization?
>a buncha whores getting together for a coupla beers

Thanks, Dan.  Now we know what you think of women.
Karen

     I can only imagine that this is a play on the use of "working
     girl" to mean "prostitute."  But the semantic difference between
     "professional woman" and "working girl" is so great that this
     would-be quip is merely a witless insult.

     Carol
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:46:59 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Mail From Brown
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Judith's mail to the list has been bouncing lately.  My non-techy guess
is that Brown is still using the old IP address.  (UGA's IP address
changed a couple of days ago.  If others of you are having trouble getting
through to the list, ask your systems people about how IP addresses are
found on your system.  It may be that your system is "remembering" the
old IP address for UGA rather than looking up the new one when mail is
sent.)

I was about to attach something from Judith to this note but just decided
to save it for a separate posting with a better subject header.  It will
follow soon.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:51:46 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      FTP

*** Resending note of 09/02/92 18:40

>But why do you want to get WP involved in any of this??  I can't think of
>any time that I've wanted to involve WP in anything I've gotten from
>anywhere via ftp.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Natalie, ggs might want to not only view Bernard in color (with his frilly
pillow), but also to print a picture of Bernard.  When you ship the file
to WP, you make it into a printed picture ...execpt the printed picture I
have is in black and white ... of course we don't have a color laser
printer either :-)

As for going from mainframe? to PC, kind of, as you said, depends on
environment he works in (no not laundry room like me) and software
available to him ...Procomm, Execlink, telnet, native 3270 receive
command... + others I am not aware of.  Where is his friendly system
advisor?
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Frotteurism
Date: 3 Sep 1992 19:54:13 GMT
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In a previous article, kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA (Agnes Kruchio) says:

>> trying to deal with frotteurs.  The cars are packed so tight
>> the victims can neither see nor escape the perps.
>
>"perps"???==?
	perpetrators - cop slang that some of us pick up off of police
dramas.:-)  Television is good for something,~ maybe.  Then again, I probably
learned it in a book.:-)
>NIMBY
????

>> (There are plenty of canine and feline frotteurs on the loose...)
	Yup - but they're not really annoying unless one being is soaking wet
and the other is not.....

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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:16:54 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Amazon Colors
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              92 12:43 am

>
> In honor of the forthcoming Desert Storm II the T-shirts
> could be sand colored.
>
> --karsten
>
> (What is the color of an electron?)
>
You may be thinking of quarks...but they come in "flavours"...
Agnes
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:34:22 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: You are NEVER safe
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I'm on every kind of mailing list imaginable.  It's fun to guess which
of my orders have led to placement on new catalogues.  Living in a small
town, I order lots of things.  I'm still trying to figure out  how I got
put on mailing list for heavy equipment catalogue (fork lifts etc.).
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
    forging onward through mail against all odds...  no electricity for
    a while (and no laptop here), bad behavior of ra/isis, no mail going
    anywhere...
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (57)
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>I think, but I'm not certain, that the Zombies recorded "Love Potion
>No. 9."

>Evelyn

	Certainly not the Zombies, whose magnum opus "She's Not There" was
	one of the greats.  Love that Rod Argent.

	Ummm, was LP#9 by the Searchers?

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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:14:52 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Private vs. Public Schools
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              92 10:16 pm

	Giggles, though I agree with your position in theory, you
betta betcha butt that my theoretical progeny will be in private
schools.  I want my kids to have an education without worrying about
their 7th grade classmate who hides a gun in his locker.

	Parents have real power over private schools because they are
paying for them directly.  There is no school committee made up of
political suck-asses to work around.  There is no school board to
deal with.  That private school depends on your tuition check and
endowments, and they're gonna listen when you make demands.

	And as a product of public schooling from kindergarten to
B.A., I want them to have a better education than what got passed
off on me as such.

Rita
Who has learned more about literature in the year since I graduated than
in all my years in college combined.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:14:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re[4]: Brother Barbara
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     Okay already.  I clearly didn't get Dan's "professional" joke.
     Now that I get it, I still think it's stupid.  (Graham's was much
     funnier.)

>The remark was a mild, weak joke -- don't make a federal case out if it
>while there are still *REAL* bastards out there who think it's just the
>truth.

     Bayla, do you really think my jab at Dan constituted "making a
     federal case"?  I barely scorched the guy.

     Carol
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From: richh@netcom.com (richh)
Subject: Re: I am not afraid of words-l!
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 16:48:42 GMT
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Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG> writes:

>> >> --cryptic?
>> >> --q=y
>> >
>> >	And look, he even throws in a scrap for Tushar.
>>
>>
>> My name being used for territorial wars. That too on the NET. I feel
>> so cheap.

>	Tushar, you misunderstand.  Rich and I are not warring.  He's
>my long lost <rhubarb-man>.

I am!
I adore said Rita.
The pie in question is for *me*!

RICHH
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: mohawk
Summary: grammar
Keywords: language
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:47:07 GMT

A few years back, there were some mildly funny stories in -Analog-
featuring a Bertie-Wooster-grade Roman "diplomat" and a magnificent Mohawk
war chief: it was an alternate-history romp, where the Romans had
discovered the Americas, way back when.  I think the author was William F
Wu, though I can't be sure of that -- the relevance (you *were* wondering,
weren't you?) is that some remarks on Mohawk language and grammar were
appended to the stories.  The part I <think> I remember has to do with
posessives: there's a different one for something that's <part> of you,
like your arm, and for something not intrinsically your self, like your
pots and pans.  It gets a bit philosophical (along the lines of genders for
inanimate nouns etc) when the posessives seem to fall into different
categories than "whitefolk" would use.  

In any event, the mindset implied by the language structure was
fascinating.  Of course, there *are* those (you know who you are, and I'm
sure I'll be hearing from you) who insist that language and mindset have no
relation to each other.... :-)

--bayla
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:40:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Ubi Sunt?
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Nobody but sis and Miss Software around tonight, oh, and mem,
who is getting pompous, methinks.  So it's time for another
ubisunting:
Where is bayla?
Where is rita?
Where is adam?
Where is -abh?
Where is ndh?
Where is plotkin?
Where is LU?
Where is karen?
Where is love judith?
Where are dan and peace don?
Where is genteleone?
Where is ruthie?
Where is <ts>?
Where is greetings marty?
Where is everybody?
Where is silvia who is she?
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:55:25 -0500
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Prostitution (wasRe: Re[2]: Brother Barbara)
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Oh dear.  I can only assume that, while I was receently un-subbed to the
list (through no fault of my own), that my mention of a "professional
women's organization" followed a thread something like this:

professional women's organization -> professional women -> prostitutes

This is what happens when I leave you people unsupervised for a couple of
days... :)

Prostitutes, harlots and whores were all priestesses of the Goddess in
ancient times, dispensing the grace of the Goddess through the sacrament
of sex.  Temple prostitutes in cultures from Japan to Hellenic Greece,
Rome and Babylonia, and throughout the Middle and Far East enjoyed stature
equal to men (unlike their wifely counterparts), dispensed charity to the
poor and took care of the sick.  Holy whores were called virgins because
they remained unmarried, and children born of such women were called
"parthenioi" by the Greeks -- virgin-born.

In the sense that priestess was perhaps the first "job" or profession held
by women, it does indeed qualify.

It was only when the Church wanted to take away the sanctity of their
position (but not to eradicate them entirely) that the words referring to
these holy women were reduced to what we consider them now.

For more information, pick up _The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and
Secrets_ by Barbara Walker (which is chock-full of other references).
It's... illuminating.

--Susan
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:46:29 -0500
Reply-To:     Doris Smith <dorisann@tenet.edu>
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (57)
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>
> .
> Caronte (the form in Spanish, may be different in English) is

 Charon in English.

> --ggs(becoming more and more convinced of his <ontological condition>
> as *star*, regardless of what the newbies say...)

Giggles, dear brother, it is not *good form* to toot one's own horn, STS.
And of course, we all HOB when you are not around.
Doris (whose messages *still* are not getting to the list after two whole
days, and doesn't notice anyone HTB)
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Re : English Aspiration
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> The publishing house, Knopf, is pronounced with a short schwa between k and
> n (p silent), no?  maybe one says Knopp the same way.
>
> rashmi
> (rashmi@coe.drexel.edu)

Bingo, rashmi....  It's like the once famous piano, which was known
as the "piano-maker's piano" (among the finest made, IOW), the
Knabe (pronounce K'nob ee), which was made in Baltimore until the
advent of the infamous spinet...  The makers of Knabe refused to
compete in the new market of cheapo pianos and went out of business.
In my living room sits a 6'2" Knabe grand (ca. 1934), which is a
precious jewel of which I am right proud.
--ggs
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:16:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bumper Stickers
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> Sorry, GGS, I gotta run to a <club meeting>, but I just have to fire a parthia
> shot and say you're wrong, or you're wearing blinders, or you're living in a
> very exclusive area where the public schools rival the private ones.
>
> -abh

Well, I think (though many disagree with me) that the Raleigh schools
(public) are more acceptable than those in most cities this size
(ca. 300,000), but this is precisely my point:  the public schools
cannot in most cases rival the private ones because the people who
*could* do something about public education cop out because they
dont want to be bothered and stick their kids in private schools
where they will be safe and well-educated.  Then they cry that
they have to pay for public schools, too.  I have no patience at
all with their tears.... public education is paid for by *everyone*
whether they have children or not.  Because it is good for society
as a whole..... the <public good>, right?  If I had to face a
situation in which my kids were in danger or couldnt get any kind
of education in the public schools, I dont know what I would do.
But, even if I had to put them in private schools, I would still
feel that the situation is wrong.
--ggs
From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: Tushar
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:56:36 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

I have received email from tushar.  all is well.  I am sure he'll be in
touch with the rest of the worriers soon, if he hasn't been already: its
Sunday now, and I'm reading mail dated saturday on words-l.  

--bayla
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: brushes
Date: 4 Sep 1992 02:53:44 GMT
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>>I usually use hot wax, and no brush.  It doesn't feel anything like a close
>>shave...not that either of you would know much about one of those....
>
>Brush referred to what was left....not a part of the shaving process....
>do I need to draw you a picture?  Imagine not....   but I DO know alot about
>close shaves....just not on MY body....

Dan, Dan, Dan - have you been taking lessons from Giggles?  Or was it from
your wife?:-)  Daughter?  If one of the above [need I say which] caught you
talking like that to me, you'd find out what a close shave is *really* like.
[ever been near-missed by a cast iron skillet?]

>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:53:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ubi Sunt?
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> On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:48:25 CDT Bernard Chien Perro said:
> >Not that you asked... but *I'M* here.
> >                        o/.\____/
> >         -- Bernard      \______|
> >                         / \  / \
>
> Me, too.  And I'm not so sure that my feelings shouldn't be hurt by this
> slight. :(
>
> Evelyn

Evelyn evelyn evelyn evelyn you are with me always so how could I
inquire about your presence?  Omnipresence is its own reward.
--ggs
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Subject: Re: clambake photos
Date: 4 Sep 1992 03:29:08 GMT
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In a previous article, TWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU (Theresa Wild) says:

>Rashmi,
>
>   I have an extra patio shot if you'd like it, just send me your
>address and it will be in the mail.  Didn't get too many others, too
>busy watching the baby.
I'm having some reprints made as we speak.  I could always get a few more.
btw - Theresa, two of those reprints are of you baby-watching, not to mention
the baby.  
>
> Theresa
> twild@uriacc.uri.edu
>
Ruth
photographer to not much of anybody
  
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: I am not afraid of words-l!
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> Bite me.
> (you'd be surprised where that "top" and "bottom" stuff can play.)

	Munch Munch.  I just loooooove the taste of fresh newbie
meat.


> Heh.  That has a nice OshKosh Bgosh overalls corncob pipe straw hat
> huck finn barefoot yummy ring to it.
>
> "rhubarb"  RICHH

	Kind rolls off the <tounge>, huh?

Rita
:
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:20:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: RE: Holland tunnel
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> Abh, read the letter first before writing. Concentrate on the word "if", the
> question marks etc. In any case, always read a letter before replying. This is
> my advice to you.
>
I just *love* it when <ts> starts giving advice.  He is so good at it.
.
> >                                               Why, without you as my constan
> >reader and inspiration, I'd be distraught and foundationless, bobbing suspend
> >in a sea of muck without so much as a candle's glimmer to guide me.
>
> The sort of thing I would not like to happen. But everyone must take responsi-
> bility for oneself.
>
Why should we, with <ts> lurking around?
.
---(name withheld in the interest of maintaining at least an iota of
decorum on this most pacific of lists....)
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:02:27 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Hello
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Hi, Shona. Don't mind us, it's that time of the year...

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 13:18:33 MDT
From:         The Ronin <whitb0@CLEM.MSCD.EDU>
Subject:      Hello from the Ronin
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Announceth The Ronin:

     School is back in session and I have again wrangled an account.  I am
subscribed and NOMAIL, but will be ftp'ing archives regularly.  Will pop in
as often as possible.

The Ronin   whitb0@clem.mscd.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:15:52 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Lint-free cloths

>It fascinates me the subjects that are discussed here!  I have a hugh box
>of previously lint-free cloths (my son scrounged them for me).  They had
>been used (washed and rewashed) by local hospital.  When they become a
>little frayed, a local business takes them, boils them to ensure free
>from contaminants, and resells them to local K-mart, etc, as shop cloths.
>They work great and I have enough to last about 20 years ..maybe I might
>risk a few to clean this screen :-)

Well, there you go again, Don.  Crowing about your 20-year supply and so
forth.  But you do not define your terms, nor do you offer any practical
advice for poor bozos like me who have no access to hospital refuse.  Guess
I'll just have to tough this one out.  :-)

Lint-free in a former life,
brad
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From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Bumper Stickers
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Posted on 1 Sep 1992 at 04:36:16 by Bayla Singer
>When one
>hapless English teacher in Chicagoland assigned a book to be read over
>summer vacation, you should have *heard* the commotion (it wound up being

This reminds me that the Japanese summer vacation comes in the middle of
the seemster--yes, 2 months off in the middle of the semester--and so students
are assigned projects to do during that time.  When I recently spoke to some
Japanese students, they wanted to know what kinds of projects American students
were assigned over the summer.  I wish!!!  I do assign stuff do over Christmas
break sometimes, but that's the most I could ever get away with. I was just
wondering if year-round schooling implies "homework" during vacations?

Karen
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