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From: fsdff@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Bossanova anti-defamation (was RE: Pixies question)
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:41:07 GMT

In article <gf9BcjC00VoGM4uUlH@andrew.cmu.edu>, Pierre Delaly <pd1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> I don't know why everybody out here seems to consider Bossanova as the
> worst album of the Pixies. I think it is a GREAT one, along with the
> first ones (Come on Pilgrim, Surfer Rosa, Doolittle).
> Trompe le Monde has disappointed me though; this is one is probably the
> worst album of the Pixies; it sounds like the Pixies had nothing new to
> record, so they just did something similar to the previous albums,
> trying to make it sound more commercial.
> I could conclude by this advise: "Whatever you do, do not buy the Trompe
> le Monde album... " but buy Bossanova !
> 
> Pierre


Ahem, Dave here.  I was saddened to see that through trying to protect the
dignity of one Pixies album, another has fallen victim to insults and
complaints, insults and complaints. Ohhh! Confusion and desperation,
desperation and confusion!  I have written to Pierre on this subject by now.
Can't we all just be brothers?

Tell me one of your biggest fears.

				Dave La Soul.
From: eauu018@orion.oac.uci.edu (Glenn Kaino)
Subject: Re: Rage against the machine
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:50:47 GMT

In article <gf_tB7e00WBK42OHNQ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Spencer J Hollis <sh4m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> I have recently come into contact with this album and although It is
> really ultra-militant, I like it.  The first time that I listened to it
> I thought that it was utter sub rap crap, but some of the toons such as
> "killing in the name of" and "bomb track" have some increadible musical
> elements.  What do you all think?  I'm tryin to hate it but just can't. 
> It reminds me of a militant chili peppers.
> 

I just got back from seein' a Rage show in LA... Ive seen em about 4 times now
and have to say that musically they sound incredible live... The only 
disappointing part of the show is when Zack(the lead) started raggin on the
troops that went to Saudi...  Seemed a bit too uneducated a viewpoint to be
credible...  other than that it was a great show.


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From: eck@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Brian J. Eck)
Subject: Pigface, 12/16, Philadelphia, PA
Return-Path: <news@noc2.dccs.upenn.edu>
Organization: The Senate
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:07:54 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative




Pigface/Uptown Bones
December 16, 1992
Trocadero, Philadelphia, PA

Atlanta to Philadelphia.  Eleven hours.  Not my idea of a fun ride.  Seems
to be Pigface's though; they played in Atlanta on the 15th and Philly on
the 16th.  Unfortunately, they were late, but only 90 minutes late.
And they made it up...

Uptown Bones are a well-known local band; they vary between heavy, fast
rock, and kind of poppy rock.  They utterly confused the audience, however,
by playing random samples between songs; including about thirty seconds of
Madonna's "Vogue".  The morons in the crowd didn't appreciate them all,
but I found them kinda fun.

I'd expected Pigface to be exhausted and play a short set.  If they were
a bit tired, however, it didn't show; they played a bit over two hours.
The lineup included Martin Atkins, Ogre, Hope Nichols, En Esch, William
Tucker, the cello player, the guy from Lab Report who plays the ATG,
and the guy with long hair whose name escapes me.  No Chris Connelly; 
he's out with Ministry.  No Raven either, but oh well.

Tights seemed to be the costume of the evening; Ogre, Esch, and Hope
were each sporting them.  Hope's were purple velvet, very chic.  I think
Esch has been wearing the same black tights for the past two years since
the first time I saw Pigface.

Anyway, it's good to see that Pigface has becomes less of a boys' club.
The cello player didn't do much beyond celling, first in a kimono, then in
a lace catsuit with no underwear.  Hope was a major presence, however;
she sang lead on maybe a third of the songs and shared vocals on another
third.  She's got a _great_ voice, very howlish.

I've never seen Ogre as lively as he was last night, either.  Last time
with Pigface, he was nearly motionless; every Puppy show I've seen, he's
been mobile, but...see Ogre leap!  see Ogre dance!  see Ogre run!
Guess he's off the heroin...

Set list:
Insemination
I'm Still Alive
Ten Ground & Down
Tapeworm
Auto Hag
Go!
War Ich Nicht
Point Blank
Do No Wrong
Weightless
Alle Ist Mine
Hips Tits Lips Power
(break)
Suck
Seven Words
Henry
007
Die Warsau Jam
(break)
Satellite

Hips Tits Lips Power became an extended noisefest, eventually changing
into "Slits Clits Dicks Power".  I'm not sure what the Die Warsau Jam was
or if it was really played.  Oh yeah, and Pigface still does "Suck" better
than Trent Reznor ever could.

brian
--
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You said "I'm feeling fine" but it didn't really rhyme.
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From: berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca (Eva Chan)
 Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eva Chan)
Subject: Re: Too Much Joy?
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:30:36 GMT

johnkey@maths.tcd.ie (Daniel Byrne) writes:

>What is this band like? I've seen the name mentioned around, and this morning 
>I saw a promo of theirs going for a ridiculously cheap price so I was wondering
>if it'd be any good. What other bands could they be compared to? 

>I've fairly wide tastes in music (Sonic Youth, The Fall, Godflesh, Tom Waits,
>Ministry, Stravinsky, Syd Barrett, etc) so I'd like know if I'd be into it......

>Thanks,

>tHE mASCARA sNAKE (yeah?)


Hm, good question =)  They're a basic four-man band, drums, guitar, bass
and vocals, with an occasional guest instrument on some songs.  Humour
is found in great abundance in all their music.  My best advice is to 
pick up and album and just listen to it. :)  You'll laugh, you'll cry,
you will have listened to Too Much Joy!

On other related stuff:

I got a personal reply from Jay! (ooh ahhh!) I had sent a letter to 
that address listed on their albums and after a couple months VOILA!
I shall cherish the chickens scratches til they sell out and go pop
commercial.  BTW, has anyone joined their official fan club and is it
worth the $12.34 asking price?


-- 
= Eva Chan 		| Never lose my youth, I hope it never ends. =
= bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu	| Hope I never lose my wallet!               =
= on IRC: bunny 	|	- Bosstones			     =
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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Stipe-guesting
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:20:50 GMT

In article <Bz41En.6IE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (dave) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.180158.9385@linus.mitre.org> woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke) writes:
>>Didn't Stipe and Bragg also do a version of "Tom's Diner" acappella.
>>Stipe singing some silliness and Bragg as the human beatbox?
>
>this was actually all of r.e.m., with bragg (and robyn hitchcock?  help
>me, steph!), done at a live show in england a few years back.  very funny.
>available on a limited edition cd single (forget which one.  help me
>again, steph!), and on a compilation album of various versions of "tom's
>diner."

	Not a few years back, but last year, what, in spring?  Those guys,
	and god only knows who else, were Bingo Hand Job...  REM was on
	a European promotional tour for Out of Time then.  Lucky were
	the folks at the Borderline those two nights!

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From: yanoff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott A. Yanoff)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: U2's previous name
Date: 16 Dec 1992 06:02:34 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, WI
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4




U2 were originally known as Feedback, since that was all that seemed to come
out of their amps.

Then they became The Hype  (might explain why their fan magazine is called
Propaganda...)


Then they became U2....with the idea that you, too, could join in the
music and fun....
-Scott
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From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:34:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Dec17.192418.4533@bnr.ca> saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>In article <Dec17.175444.55092@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein) writes:
>|> 
>|> yeah isn't there some pink floyd song about furry animals?
>
>   There is.
>
>
>|> hmmm...i wonder if anyone knows the full name?
>
>   Small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving 
>   with a pics.
>
>   or something very close to that.
>
>-- 
>
> Signed,                 "You must never sleep, never daydream,    
>   Roch Saumure.             never be without a vital thought and     
>                                never have an open mind, then you shall  
>                                   be protected from the forces of Magic."   
>
>
>DISCLAIMER: All opinions expressed are my own.

oh yeah. that's it. gee, thanks. mark
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Husker Du's album?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:06:46 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken


on the album releases was a listing for husker du, on rhino:

"everything falls apart and more".

is this a greatest hits?

(release date of january)

- bob gaj
From: ttruong@husc11.harvard.edu (Tai Truong)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: RUMOR???---WFNX-->Easy Listening???
Keywords: ARgh!
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:42:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <dchou.723943001@husc11> dchou@husc11.harvard.edu (David Chou) writes:
>Hello.  I just heard a rumor that if proven true, would be very very
>sad for the people in the Boston area.  From what I understand, WFNX
>radio is in the process of being sold, and it will be converted
>into an easy=listening station, ala LITE MAGIC 106....ARGH!!!!!
>If anyone has any info substantiating or repudiating this, please
>do tell...thanks.
>
>							-Dave
>


This can't be!!!! WFNX is the only radio station I listen to over here in
Boston.  You see I'm at college right now, and for only about three months
out of the year do I get to go home to San Fransisco and listen to LIVE 105
which is way, way better.  But it would be a total disaster if I and tons
of the alternative listeners out here in Boston (and I know there's a lot)
are going to be deprived of such a radio station.  ... and i thought
Boston was a cool place to go to college...

					- Tai -
From: jrobert@lab4.smcm.edu (Jess Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: dead or alive
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:20:45 GMT

has anybody heard anything from these guys since Nude was released?
That was a good album, and they know how to pump things up...responses?
jrobert@oyster.smcm.edu
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From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Who sang Bangkok?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:16:16 GMT

cbatorow@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (touch my tears with your lips) writes:

>Ok, well i don't know if the real title is Bangkok, but it goes something like 
>this "One night in Bangkok and world's your oyster...........I can feel an angelsliding next to me.....one night in Bangkok...."

>I love this song but i have no idea who sang it.
>Help


It is from the musical "Chess."  You can get it in the movie/play soundtrack
section of your local music store.

Sharon
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: hook@mcl.ucsb.edu (nietsdloG"nataS"miJ)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Doot Doot 12"
Summary: neat-o
Keywords: cool
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:49:54 GMT


	Does anyone have or know of a CD that has the 12 inch of "Doot Doot" by
	the Freur on it! If so let me know I'm very eager to pick this up!!!!
	E-mail me at hook@mcl.ucsb.edu or just reply here!

		Thanks,
		      Jim
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From: coakley@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Cpl.Flash)
Subject: Re: <<<<< VOICE >>>>>
Keywords: as
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:17:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.161937.19455@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> visentd@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (davide visentin) writes:
>
>I'm still here, a longer list of persons for you :
>
>	Which voice do you prefer of these ?
>
>	1-C. Cornell	(Soundgarden)
>	2-E. Vedder	(Pearl Jam)
>	3-A. Wood	(Mother Love Bone)
>	4-K. Cobain	(Nirvana)
>	5-M. Arm	(Mudhoney)
>	6-T. Moore	(Sonic Youth)
>	7-L. Reenaldo	(Sonic Youth)
>	8-M. Patton	(Faith No More, Mr.Bungle)
>	9-Y. Eye	(Naked City)
>	10-R. Zombie	(White Zombie)
>	11-L. Staley	(Alice in Chain)
>	12-D. Sylvian	(Japan)
>	13-A. Jourgensen(Ministry)
>	14-T. Reznor	(NIN)
>	15-L. Kravitz
>	16-A. Bell	(Erasure)
>	17-C. Johnson	(Beat Happening)
>	18-N. Merchant	(10000 Maniacs)
>	19-J. Napolitano(Concrete Blonde)
>	20-I. Brown	(Stone Roses)
>	21-N. Ogre	(Skinny Puppy)
>	22-M. Balin	(Jefferson Airplane)
>	23-P. Anselmo	(Pantera)
>	24-G. Benton	(Deicide)
>	25-Genesis P-Orridge
>	26-E. Ka-Spel	(Tear Garden)
>	27-C. Connelly
>	28-D. Yow	(Jesus Lizard)
>	29-O. Osbourne	(Black Sabbath)
>	30-A. Cooper
>	31-R. James Dio
>	32-R. Halford	(Judas Priest)
>	33-N. Young
>	34-D. Crosby
>	35-W. Hussey	(Mission)
>	36-I. Asbury	(The Cult)
>	37-R. Daltrey	(The Who)
>	38-M. Jagger	(Rolling Stones)
>	39-J. Morrison	(THe Doors)
>	40-R. Plant	(Led Zeppelin)
>	41-B. Bargeld   (E. N.)
>	42-D. Galas
>	43-J. Hetfield  (Metallica)
>	44-J. Mascis    (Dinosaur jr.)
>	45-P. Farrell   (Jane's Addiction)
>	46-D. Gilmour	(Pink Floyd)
>	47-P. Gabriel
>	48-M. Stipe	(REM)
>	49-R. Smith	(Cure)
>	50-Morrissey	(Smiths)
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>It's a question of life and death!
>Thanks in advance,
>
>						Davide.
>
>
>For other contacts, please e-mail : visentd@ghost.dsi.unimi.it
>


	Hey.....what happened to Jimbob from Carter u.s.m.???????
	
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: Replacements
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:36:05 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

It is a rare occasion when I completely agree with someone on here, but I
must applaud the response of my esteemed colleague from Wisconsin on his
suggestion of 'Let it Be/Tim/Pleased To Meet Me' music.  To be perfectly
honest, all 3 are required listening.  Let It Be is more spirited and Pleased
is more polished.

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GC/MS Chemist |  The ones who love us least, are the ones we'll die to please.
U of Iowa     |  If it's any consolation, I don't pretend to understand them.'
              |                            -Paul Westerberg
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uhl.uiowa.edu|    -Setters do it with their hands
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: THE FATIMA MANSIONS
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:09:34 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

att (Bob R) writes:
>I've had Valhalla Ave. on order for 5 months now.

Yeah, I saw it once in a store in Palo Alto, and the $25 import price tag put
me off.  I figured, "It's got to be coming out domestically soon."  Two days
later I thought, "Hell, I may as well shell out the readies to have it now".
It was gone.  I've never seen it again.  That was about 4 months ago.
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From: cjones@physci.ucla.edu (Chad Jones)
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1
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Date: 11 Dec 92 14:57:15 PST

In article <1992Dec10.183419.18866@midway.uchicago.edu> Josh Ronsen,
rons@quads.uchicago.edu writes:
>	On my next radio show I am going to do a special Theme Show on
>Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles. Any help is appreciated. The

Pet Shop Boys:
How can you expect to be taken seriously?
What have I done to deserve this?

Morrissey:
We hate it when our friends become successful

Cracker:
Don't fuck me up with peace and love

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chad Jones                 | Do I need someone here to scold me or do I
Network Manager            | need someone who'll grab and pull me out of
UCLA Physiological Science | this four poster dull torpor pulling
cjones@physci.ucla.        | downward?                 -- 10,000 Maniacs
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From: cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir)
Subject: Re: I WANT TO START A BAND!!!
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:55:03 GMT

If you want a lyricist/bassist, look me up in St. John's, NFLD. It's in
Canada, though. Maybe, through the phone...;)

Corey Weir
cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
.
From: ez003338@othello.ucdavis.edu (Tara)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Who sings EMPTY PROMISES?
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:58:14 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

yanoff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott A. Yanoff) writes:
: Who sings THIS song, called EMPTY PROMISES?

I don't know if there's more than one song by this title, but the one I know
is by Kristen Hall, an ex-guitar tech for the Indigo Girls and an artist on
Amy Ray's Daemon Records label.  It's on her second album, _Fact and Fiction_.
I highly recommend it to any fans of folk-oriented music.

Tara
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From: emp1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Housemartins, was Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:15:18 GMT

egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:


>> The Housemartins: 
>> 		  "There is Always Something There To Remind Me"


>	Wasn't this originally done by the band Naked Eyes (or some thing like
>that)?

For one thing, there is a song with the same name that was performed by
Naked Eyes, but Naked Eyes did not write it.  I forget who did.

This song is a Housemartins original...even though it shares the name.

Kinda like "Welcome to the Jungle"...They Might Be Giants and Guns 'n' Roses
have songs with that name, but they are completely different songs.
From: v462etnn@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Is New Order still around?
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec11.132619.2437@dct.ac.uk>, misb3crs@dct.ac.uk writes...
>In article <Bz19KL.51n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius) writes:> 
> 
> 
>> Movement was New Order's first album release.  This was released after Ian
>> Curtis managed to hang himself (the band has signed some obscure pact saying 
>> that whenever they make a change of musicians, they will change their name...
>> This is what happened from Warsaw to Joy Division to New Order to Revenge.
>> This promise appears to be falling through now, however, and we'll have to
>> see what happens).
> 
> 
>> Peter Hook appears to have shouldered lead vocals (as of Technique) although
>> I could be wrong pending Sumner's return...
> 
> ha ha ha, should i laugh or cry ?
>> 
>> Marius
>> ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>> 
> 
> 
>  are you yanks as stupid as it appears ?
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This may be a case of the pot calling the kettle black.  This  
was dealt with several days ago.

> 
>  peter hook hasnt done any vocals for new order since 1981's "movement" lp
> 
>  and 'revenge' isn't the next incarnation of new order, but is merely
>  a side project, as is 'electronic' and 'the other two'
> 
>  
> Colin Simpson 
> 
>  misb3crs@uk.ac.dct

David Anderson
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From: js3471r@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Replacements
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:55:26 GMT

In article <BzBC6z.Lpo@cup.hp.com>, cherry@cup.hp.com (Kristen Cherry) writes:
> I'm interested in getting a Replacements cd and I was wondering if 
> someone could suggest a good place to start.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Kristen
> 
> cherry@cup.hp.com

My recommendation would be their "Hootenanny:"  loose, raw, varied, wrenching,
etc.  Back when the Replacements were God.

Sloop
JS3471R@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
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From: speterse%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: What is flannel?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:49:32 MST
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <1992Dec15.065330.8781@scott.skidmore.edu> lprimera@scott.skidmore.edu (lisa primerano) writes:
>
>why why why why why....ok, there ARE people who wear a flannel for
>practical reasons...warmth, comfort, value...but c'mon, you gotta
>admit that those who wear the flannels in the summer are not being
>practical...that's just too hot...and people who own them but never do
>more than just tie them around their waste...pure fashion, i'd
>say...

Not to deny that fashion victims do exist, there are reasons to wear
a shirt tied round your waist.  Most places, no matter how hot it gets
during the day, it gets chilly late at night, especially if you're leaving
a show, and you're all hot and sweaty.

I ALWAYS make sure I'm wearing something I can tie round my waist when I 
see a band.  It's invariably too hot inside, and I don't usually wanna 
trust/pay for coat-check folks.  These days, it's generally sweatshirts,
not flannel, but the principle is the same.


As for how it started:  in the late seventies/early eighties, punk "fashion"
sort of divided into the black-leather-and-studs-and-sculpted-hair look on
the one side and the torn-jeans-and-tour-shirts-and-flannel-and-(sometimes)-
long-hair look on the other.  The latter was never really a "fashion" so 
much as simply what rock-band types who didn't really care about what they
wore (and who had blown all their clothes money on band tshirts anyway)
could find cheap.

Until recently of course.  

--
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