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From: north@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Michael North)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:04:50 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Dec15.161325.24855@spectrum.xerox.com> eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com writes:
>Type		Name			Specialties		Food/Service/Ambience
>--------------	----------------------	--------------------	---------------------
Chinese		Kam-Wa's		Hunan style Chinese	4/4/4



Michael J. North		Dept. of Radiology
4600 University Drive #1315
Durham, NC 27707
north@cs.unc.edu, north@rad.unc.edu

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From: ean@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Naratil)
Subject: UpState New York?
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp., Valley Forge Labs, Paoli, PA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:22:13 GMT

My idea of 'UpState' New York is Holland Patent and Barneveld.
Great in the summer and great in the winter.  If you're in the
area check out the Hotel Moore and Van's Tavern in Barneveld.
(In the old days Barneveld was named Trenton.  Too much con-
fusion over Trenton, NJ and Trenton, NY.)

Get there via Route 365 North from Rome - or Route 12 North 
from Utica.

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From: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Subject: Upstate New York 
Reply-To: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:50:42 GMT

In article <johnsh-151292175220@mustang.stu.rpi.edu> johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.195448.22493@news.columbia.edu>,
> cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi) wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 	Anyone here from the Albany area?  More specificaly, at or around Union
> > College in Schenectady?  I transferred from there 3 yrs ago, and was wondering
> > what was new up there....
> > 
> > 		Has the Nott Memorial fallen down yet?
> 
> Can't speak for Schenectady.  Troy, though, HAS fallen down.  And it most
> certainly can't get up.
> 
> ========================================================================
> Hugh W. Johnson (johnsh@rpi.edu) | 
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute |     <insert FunQwote(tm) here>
> Troy, New York, USA              |  
> ========================================================================


Having grown up in Loudonville, NY, which is across the river from Troy,
I admit that Troy wasn't the greatest city, however I have seen far worse.
The most entertaining part about Troy were all the one way streets around
the Uncle Sam Mall and being able to figure out which one lead to the parking
garage!  

As far as defining the boundaries of "Upstate New York", I have always
considered everything north and west of the New York city boroughs. The
most frustrating part about living in "Upstae New York" was explaining
to people that Albany, not New York City, was the State Capital and
that Albany was not near the Canadian border.

The most enjoyable memories of New York State were when I drove between home
(Loudonville) and Rochester to college, along Route 20. Unbelievable scenery
whether it was Fall, Winter or Spring!

Anyone graduate from Shaker High School in Latham, NY?
From: rz34@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Schillinger)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Anyone from Po'town?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 07:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rz34@hp850.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: ry30.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

I know that Poughkeepsie isn't considered Upstate at all, especially
in this group, although when I went to SUNY-Binghamton all those
Long Islanders thought it was. But I'm from Poughkeepsie (originally
Wappingers Falls) and live in Karlsruhe, Germany now.  So, of course,
I had to read this group since it's so close to home!

I've also lived in Albany for a while, so *maybe* that gives me enough
clout to post to this group! (There was a lot of "culture" there! I lived
on Willett St. and loved those "Concerts in the Park"!)

Anyway, I'm looking to get in contact with my family there over the
net.  They'd really think it was neat.  Actually, Dad works for IBM
(what else does anyone do in P'keepsie?), but he says he doesn't have
access to this net.  Does anyone there know of a way he COULD access
it from IBM? or better yet, how I could find him and send him a message?

Maybe someone out there even knows someone in my  family:
My maiden name is Carlos (Dad's name is Paul, Mom-Judy, brother-Peter,
and sisters-Jane and Laura).  I went to R.C.Ketcham High and would love to
get in contact with ANYONE in that area!!!

Thanks in advance!!

Karen Schillinger
rz34@hp850.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de


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From: johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: Re: Upstate Keeps Moving
Followup-To: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:35:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.214705.14250@spectrum.xerox.com>,
houston@eso.mc.xerox.com (Sam Houston) wrote:
> 
> When I was growing up in Poughkeepsie (Dutchess County) in the
> 40s and 50s I guess we considered that area upstate.  Go back
> there now, and it feels-and looks-like an extension of
> NYC. People even *commute* from there to NYC. 

Yah, Po-Town seems mostly like a detatched suburb of NYC these days. 
Today, that's not that uncommon; heck, I heard someone once say that
northern New Jersey is a suburb of NYC and southern New Jersey is a suburb
of Philly.  The only place that's really separate in NJ is the shore.
 
> Then in the 60s when I was going to college in
> Troy, that really felt like upstate.  Today it's just super
> urban sprawl all the way to Lake George-and beyond (albeit
> better than the Dutchess county area).  It's also the 
> home of one of the most corrupt state legislatures in the
> country--most of whom come from downstate.  

I dunno, I don't think I'd consider the Capital District an "urban sprawl,"
it seems nicely spread out enough and seems far enough from anything major.
 Unfortunately, it's detatched enough to lack culture of any sort (after
all, that's what this newsgroup is all about).  Then again, I'm from
Philly, so almost ANYTHING is spread out for me.
 
> Then when I moved to Rochester in the late 60s I felt
> very upstate--and you know--I still do!!  I feel an affinity
> with all the other upstate burgs-Syracuse, Buffalo, Utica,
> Binghamton, Elmira, Amsterdam, Jamestown, etc.
> 
> But go north of Lake Ontario (at least over as far as Amsterdam)
> -further north as you go east toward the tri cities-and that's *North
> Country*; a very special part of upstate.  These people hate
> (or at least barely tolerate) tourists, the ADK, DEC, BMWs,
> and lord knows what else.  It's a nice place to backpack
> tho...

Yah, north-north upstate is really beautiful.  Some wonderful roads up
there, beautiful driving country when not in the winter months.

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From: winter@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Winter)
Subject: Re: Just a little piece of trivia...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:55:30 GMT

In article <BzDG0H.DDD@cmcl2.nyu.edu> obrien@acf3.nyu.edu (Your Worst Nightmare) writes:
>Did you know that if you travelled from Battery Park on Broadway,
>going uptown (though it runs downtown after 59th Street, Columbus
>Circle), you could travel all the way to Albany without making one
>turn?

isn't that route 9? if so then you can go right to SPAC (Saratoga
Performing Arts Center) too.
>
>:)
>
>-Julia
>New Yorker for last 10 years, living in Astoria, Queens.
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From: cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi)
Subject: Re: about alt.culture.long-island
Reply-To: cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:52:17 GMT

....bridge from Montauk to CT via Cold spring Harbor????  Uhh, geographicly, 
that's kinda impossible dontcha' think?  Now, there has been talk about 
building a bridge from Shoreham to CT, but that has been around for decades 
and will probably never come to pass.
	yeah, the island is a sad extension of NYC...and a horrible repository
for malls...only nice place left is WAY out east....overall, tho, i hope it 
sinks...

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From: salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas)
Subject: Bolivian girl to attend college in Rochester.
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:14:21 GMT

Nora is from Bolivia and has lived in the USA for three years in Arlington,
VA. It really wasn't that bad a culture shock for her since Arlington has a
large hispanic community and there is alot of things for her to do. Nora got
a Volleyball scholarship to attend Nazareth College in Rochester. Obviously
Up-State NY is culturally different. If there is anything interesting or 
helpful for Nora to know about Rochester that will help her adjust to her
new atmosphere she'll appreciate it. Also if there are some nice things for
her to see and do, please reply.

   thanks

 


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From: eclipse@world.std.com (Mark Urbin)
Subject: Re: Moving to Fishkill
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:41:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.170629.7813@netcom.com> mainkar@netcom.com (Varsha Mainkar) writes:
> Hi! I am absolutely thrilled to see this newsgroup. I am moving to Fishkill,
>NY (where else?) in January 93. Since I have spent my first 3 years in the 
>U.S.A in Durham (DukeLand), it's not like I am used to big-city-life anyway.
>But what does one do for "culture" in that area? (Except rushing to NYC every 
>weekend). 
> Fishkill's near Poughkepsei (sp?).
    It's Poughkeepsie (Po-kip-see).  To be honest with you, there isn't much
in Fishkill.  Some factory outlet stores at the Rt9 & Rt 84 juction. That's
about it.  
   Poughkeepsie has the Bartavon (sp) Theatre & the Chance rock club (just 
hasn't been the same since the fire...).  The CIA (Culinary Institue of 
America) is open to the public, just make reservations well in advance.
Once the weather warms up, the Vanderbuilt mansion in Hyde Park (just north
of Poughkeepsie) is a wonderfull place to hang and practice your frizbee
throws.

> Oh yes, how does one pronounce "Poughkiepsei"?
	See above...
>
>-Varsha
>


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From: yankees@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Kenneth M Gelfand)
Subject: Re: FIRST POST!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.130220.8051@nosc.mil>, koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes...
>In article <15DEC199200423302@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> yankees@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Kenneth M Gelfand) writes:
> 
> 
> 
>>Wow, didn't expect to see a group like this...
> 
>why not?  that blight on the State of NY that borders New Jersey isn't the
>center of the universe...
> 
>>So tell me, what kind of culture happens in Poughkeepsie or Troy?
>>Please keep me informed...:)
> 
>Poughkeepsie and Troy hardly qualify as 'Upstate'...  You're now informed.

	Maybe from your point of view.  From the point of view of a 
Queens resident, crossing the Tappan Zee bridge to get to relatives
in Spring Valley or New City qualifies as going upstate.  
	I apologize for the first post...I agree that NY state tends to
get slighted.  I've spent several summers at the Finger Lakes and Lake George
and both are beautiful areas.  I remember trips with the Boy Scouts to 
Harriman State Park, and those were lots of fun.
	
> 
> 
>>								Kenny G
>>							A proud down-stater
> 
>Walt K.
>a militant UP-stater
> 

								Kenny G

Just promise me one thing... I will never be forced to see:

alt.culture.long-island
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 18 Dec 1992 09:52:31 EST
From: World Leader <IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: QUESTION

why is 50% of the female population of upstate NY
named either JENNIFER or SUE?

And why have you people adopted the Japanese custom
of removing your shoes at the door?

---Andi
From: degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Any info on Potsdam or Clarkson U.?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 10:08:03 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: bmsrs.usc.edu

seanp@seanp.btv.ibm.com(Sean Reilly) writes:

>In <YOUNT.92Dec16204755@fox.ece.cmu.edu> yount@fox.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Robert Yount) writes:
>>
>>I'm applying for a job at Clarkson U.  How about some information on
>>the school or the town?  How far is it from civilization?  How is the
>>weather?  How about the local attractions?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Chuck Y.
>>

>Unfortunately, Clarkson and the Potsdam area SHOULD NOT be equated with
>civilization.  Not that they don't have running water or anything but I
>wouldn't call it a city.  It IS a great place to be though.  I spent four
>years up there and loved it.  If you hate cold, it's not the place to be.
>Canada is about 45 minutes away.


D
Hey, what do you mean, I lived in Pierpont for 6 years (after being born 
in Brooklyn) an Potsdam was the closest thing to civilization.  It was a
lot better than Canton.  It had the only Chinese resturant in the county,
a food coop, a two screen movie complex, and a real honest to goodness 
computer store.  

In all seriousness, it is a beautiful area, esp in the winter.  I can't 
remeber not having a white christmas.  The air is always breathable 
(which I can't say is true for LA), the humidity is usually quite low,
so the winters feel about 20 degrees warmer (i.e. if you're used to 
winters in areas like Baltimore (and probably Cleveland) it will feel
like its about 20 degrees and you'll be supprised to find out that its
actually 0) and the summers feel about 20 degrees cooler (Four miserable
summers in Balmer taught me that one.).

I'm supposed to be working now, so I don't really have time to 
reminince (sp).  Email me and I'll answer any questions you might have,

Ray DeGennaro
degennar@scf.usc.edu


>Sean P. Reilly
>Potsdam U, Class of '86.
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From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Upstate
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:17:14 GMT


 So where does "upstate" begin? My friends from Long Island seem to think
that anything north of Central Park Lake is upstate. I've always regarded
the Albany/Troy/Schenectady area as upstate, but people from Plattsburgh 
tend to laugh at me when I say that.
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From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Homefolks!
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:33:06 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA


Hey!  This was nice to see!

I'm from Schenectady, born and raised there.  I still go back and visit
my folks.  The place doesn't seem to change a lot, and that's nice
to see.  I live in Boston now, and while it's nice to have new things
happening all the time, it's also nice to be able to go for a walk
and find a tree that was there when you were a little kid, still growing
there and not bulldozed to make room for a condo.

I remember a story about trees in upstate New York that my father told
me once.  He used to travel all over upstate and the North Country by 
car on business.  Sometimes I'd go with him.  I remember going by the
farms and sometimes seeing a section where they'd planted a bunch of
pines.  "Look, Dad, Christmas trees!" I'd say, and he'd smile and say, 
"Yes, a nice stand of trees."  And one day he told me this story of
how the trees come to be grown like that.

When a child is born to a farming family, the farmer will go to the
state highway department and buy a couple hundred pine seedlings.  The 
highway department has lots of them -- they're used for planting 
windbreaks -- and they'll sell them to you for very little.  And the
farmer plants the trees.  A year later, the farmer will buy and plant
another couple hundred seedlings.  The next year, and the year after
that, the farmer will do the same.

And the child grows, and the trees grow...and one day, when the child 
is a senior in high school, the farmer will harvest the first planting 
of trees and sell them for Christmas trees.  The next year, there'll 
be another harvest, and the next year, and the next year.  And the money?
The money's to pay for the child to go to college.  

I like that story.  I don't know how many of the trees you see growing
at the roadside farms are being grown to send someone to school, but 
the story fits.  Upstate New York is that kind of place.


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From: oldman@fugue.cc.purdue.edu (James Agett)
Subject: Re: Define Up-State
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:29:32 GMT

I've always considered any place north of NYC as being upstate NY.  But I
also don't consider NYC part of NY state.  NYC should be it's own state
especially since most of the people that I've met from NYC don't consider
the rest of the state as anything!

AND I'M SICK OF BEING ASKED WHAT THE CITY IS LIKE WHEN I TELL PEOPLE THAT
I'M FROM NEW YORK!!!!!!

btw.  I consider Buffalo to be Upstate as well as Western, when asked though,
      I usually reply Western.

  						    Jim
please send all flames to: root@localhost
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From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted)
Subject: Re: Moving to Fishkill
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:10:02 GMT

mainkar@netcom.com (Varsha Mainkar) writes:


> Oh yes, how does one pronounce "Poughkiepsei"?

	Hell.

	And I *like* upstate NY!
>
>-Varsha
>
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
 Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read." ---Groucho Marx

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From: kasprj@operators.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: "You're from New York City??"
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:44:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.181758.20316@vlsi.polymtl.ca>, d40937@aiken (Jean Yves Desbiens) writes:
|> Jay Novello (jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu) wrote:
|> : 
|> : Things I miss:
|> : 	Honorary Canadian citizenship
|> : 	Buffalo and Toronto within reach
|> : 
|> What !!! no Montreal, the finest city on this face of the earth.
 
 Montreal is a wonderful place, the only thing wrong with it is the
weird way people talk there. It's like they've got a different word
for everything. 
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From: cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi)
Subject: Re: about alt.culture.long-island
Reply-To: cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:50:06 GMT


Rens, 
	Good call.  What part of the north fork?  ...ever been out to Shelter
Island?  Now that is a NICE place...(gee, Deering Harbor looks like a dull
place: no bars, clubs, stores, etc...what does one do there?  ==> RELAX!!). 
You can keep the rest of LI....

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: yount@fox.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Robert Yount)
Subject: Any info on Potsdam or Clarkson U.?
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:47:55 GMT


I'm applying for a job at Clarkson U.  How about some information on
the school or the town?  How far is it from civilization?  How is the
weather?  How about the local attractions?

Thanks,
Chuck Y.

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: Mike.Oniffrey@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Oniffrey)
Subject: Re: Moving to Fishkill
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:15:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.170629.7813@netcom.com> mainkar@netcom.com (Varsha Mainkar) writes:
>
> Hi! I am absolutely thrilled to see this newsgroup. I am moving to Fishkill,
>NY (where else?) in January 93. Since I have spent my first 3 years in the 
>U.S.A in Durham (DukeLand), it's not like I am used to big-city-life anyway.
>But what does one do for "culture" in that area? (Except rushing to NYC every 
>weekend). 
> Fishkill's near Poughkepsei (sp?).
>
> Oh yes, how does one pronounce "Poughkiepsei"?
>
>-Varsha
>


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From: lewis@b56vxg.kodak.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Rochester brewpubs
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: lewis@kodak.com
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <37958@cbmvax.commodore.com>, kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman) writes...
>Does anyone know if there are any brewpubs in the Rochester area? I'll be home
>there for the holidays and I'm looking for any new places to quench a thirst.
>Any suggestions for favorite watering holes new or old would be appreciated
>also.
> 
The Rochester BrewPub, on Jefferson Road , just east of the Malls...

Ken Lewis
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