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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:47:06 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Words-L Weekly Digest
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12/7 - 12/13

Challenged by encomia for Tombstone pizza, Karsten reveals what he knows
of the proprietary recipe for the Papa Del's deep-dish variety (Champaign-
Urbana).  Tushar expatiates on Gandy's precepts and Harold's bulletproof
chicken outlets.  Marty and Michael argue the finer points of the
justiciability of common law.  Carolyn organizes an intercontinental
Trivial Pursuit game.  Jenna and her cold-steel wit return. Bill Sjostrom
gives the Irish perspective on the troubles in the Royal Household.
Carol checks in with a salmonbake update.  During the long weekend UGA
chilled-water outage, Aaron Dickey says hello from bit.listserv.land.
A referendum saves the List Beagle from general anaesthesia.

Respectfully submitted,
brad
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:00:00 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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> From: torkel@SICS.SE

>   Well, you computer users with hair on your chests are quite free to go
> on using command lines all you like. The spluttering here is very one-sided.
> I don't care about mice or command lines one way or the other, but about
> getting things done, and the Macintosh gets things done for me quickly and
> smoothly. It puts a lot of strain on programmers, of course.

I've worked with MACs, with and without Windows - I even helped get
a MAC writing lab going when I was in Pennsylvania, and I will take
good old MS DOS anyday. Unfortunately I find myself forced to
use Windows because I have a major desktop video application (Snapshot),
that will only run in windows. Every time I add something new to my
set up, be it soft or hardware, I have nothing but agony, because I have to
get it to fit into windows, over which I can have little control. I long
for the days of CP/m when I could alter the system to fit my needs without
blinking. I upgraded my modem to a 14.4 and now I can't get Procomm Plus
to work in windows, although it works fine in windows with my old modem,
and it works fine outside of windows on my new modem. I'm absolutely
astounded at the amount of disk and memory wastage involved in windows.
It just boggles my mind.

DOSSHELL on version 5 of ms-dos isn't bad, if a person wants a
"friendly" interface.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:48:31 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:

> The peculiar dress-codes of the employees of our University are the only
> way we can tell the Academic Staff from the Administrative Staff. The

Not footwear again!

-abh
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 20 Dec 1992 21:35:06 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:


>:anything that moves.:-(  It's not a matter of civil rights or moral codes;
>:it's a matter of trying to keep their own butts from being shot off, and
>:incidentally a lot of other peoples' too.  If I remember correctly, that
>
>Ah! So *this* is the person who US propoganda is written for.  I wondered
>who was dumb enough to believe it.
>
Good old pharmeceutically innocent Ruth, eh?  Well, maybe, but maybe not
too.  I'd love to see a write-up on the stuff, but if it *is* like a nasty
version of a caffeine buzz, it just might short a few wires.  I "bought"
[your word] the media description of the drug because I have a very poor
opinion of the intellectual capacities of automatic-toting persons.  Take
a bunch of jerks with guns, and add some "juice"....then get into your
bullet-proof clothing and find a bunker to crawl into.  It's a different
country, but idiots are idiots, and buzzed/wired idiots with guns are buzzing
/wired idiots with guns.  They shoot things.

Of course, if someone has some good documentation to say this isn't the case...
pass it over.

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:32:13 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      60s

Hi. how does this generation lack imagination and a sense of humour
and enjoy life to the fullest?

After reading the description I can safely say that I am not a member
of that generation. Am I correct in assuming that that generation had
a tendency for breeding a naive, reverent and un-cynical attitude? If
so, I am pretty glad I don't belong to it.

And the statement that words-l attracts such a mentality explains a lot
of things ...

tushar
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From:         Adam/LH <AHARTFIE@DRUNIVAC.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Hi all
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Hi everyone,
        Just thought I'd send out a quick hello, as I'm visiting at
Drew and have a free 9600 connection.  Haven't even looked at news
yet, so I have no idea what's being talked about (but isn't that
normal?)  Anyway, happy holidays to all, and may the upcoming year be
positive in all respects.

--Adam/LH (back online temporarily)
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:29:58 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Global Village stuff

Harwell, get a life. Even in the hinterland of India we used to
get emails from Russia. Two years ago, Harwell. And what do you
mean, what is ".omsk"? Omsk is Omsk. Jeez.

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:47:34 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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              17 Dec 1992 05:51:40 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

>But why would I want to reproduce written Japanese?:-)  Besides, you probably
>have to use <*ecch*> a mouse, and *<*blarg*>* ICONS.<*gag again*>  If it uses
>icons, I don't touch it with anything but a sledge hammer...
>--
>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

To eject the floppy disk, click on the disk icon, drag to the trash can
and drop it in.  Yeah, right.  To edit a file, pick up the editor name
and drop it on the file name.  "Can I throw up now?"  (Harold Pritchett)

The WIMP (Windows Icons Mice Pointers) interface.  I'll leave it, thank you.

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:06:30 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chilled-water @ UGA [Plus Chocolate Wafer Crumbs]
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> Just can't take any more of the when-will-the-listserv-be-up messages.  The
> one I'm replying to must have been #314 in the series.

They were much more interesting when we were discussing the situation on
usenet yesterday.  They seem a bit behind the times now that they've shown
up as listserv mail.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: So is this bit.listserv stuff working?
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:28:46 GMT

gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:

>That's the second reference you've made to newsreaders in the context
>of speed of receiving news.  Are you perhaps under the misapprehension
>the it makes a blind bit of difference whether you usr rn, trn, nn,
>snews, cat or more?  (It doesn't)

It's not a misapprehension.  I know nothing of the technical details of
why, but I do know for a fact that nn stays behind rn and trn.  If I'm
impatient, I can go to rn or trn to read usenet articles that are not
yet available on nn.  That's one of various reasons FWP has told me many
times that I should use trn instead of nn.  Maybe I'll change one of these
days.  I keep sticking with nn because I like the way it works, I'm used
to it, and I don't spend enough time in usenet to bother with learning
new commands.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS)
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Subject: Re: Nagasaki
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:31:20 GMT
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>I <think> that the B-29 which bombed nagasaki was Full House.

>-abh
        Nope.  It was "Bock's Car".

JMW
        "With an ice cream cone, and a bottle of tea
         you can rest all day by the hickory tree -
         when the night comes around, oh gosh, oh gee,
         mother, mother, mother, pin a rose on me!"

(Not as cryptic as you might think...)
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:51:39 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: NEAT!
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        out as well.  I have used them several times from US locations and
        have yet to get a bill.  Go AT&T!

Naive in the extreme.  It just means the bills take 6 months to arrive.

G
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:33:41 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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> Ah, yes, Chris, too bad we can't transmit our enlightened state to these
> unwashed...

When I've said on several occasions that my reaction to Windows and OS/2
was that if I had wanted icons and mice I would have bought a Mac, I've
meant that as a compliment to Macs.  My impression is that Windows and OS/2
are feeble attempts to act like Macs.  Some of us are not skillful enough
to handle Macs, though (or rich enough to pay for them).  So not all of us
DOS-lovers are necessarily unenlightened or unwashed.  Some of us are simply
unskillful and poor.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:56:22 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: To each thing its name
              20 Dec 1992 00:37:21 EST from <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

>A small excerpt:
>
>  Tell me, what's it like to be your age ?  Is it true that one has
>  no worries at all.
>
>  To be precise, one has no frets.
>
>  Oh, well, it's all the same to me.
>
>  Fiddle.  It makes a big difference, you know.
>
>  Say, don't you play the guitar ?

   Lord how mercy !  This is only an excerpt?  Does Hofstadter name
   this class of stories?

   brad
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:52:04 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: fun word I'd somehow never seen before (fwd)
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           I mean, one reason we wait so long between editions of major
           dictionaries is for new words to achieve relative fixity.  I have
           never heard or seen "lifemanship," and it's not like it's a
           technical term, know what I mean?

Maybe not in your circles.  *manship words are quite well-known
in Britain, as any Yeovil graduate will tell you.

G
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From: crosen@andy.bgsu.edu (Marty Rosen)
Subject: avoiding the chilled water flood
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:50:48 GMT

Greetings,

Rather than endure what promises to be an unpleasant inundation with
post-maintenance words-l message, I think I'll set nomail for the moment. 
I'll watch how things develop over here on the Usenet side and maybe
re-paramaterize later on.

I must say, UK really trounced U of L, eh?  The IU-UK game should be
interesting.  

Marty
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:12:23 -0500
From:         Rebecca S Altes <rsast11+@PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: help me, please!

     thank you for the help, although by the time my message made it to
     the board, i had already finished the paper.  i can't remember what i
     finally went with.  i must say, i was rather perturbed when i finally
     discovered that "irescapable" was not word.  my family has been using
     the phrase "irrescapable urge" for years.  has anyone else ever heard
     this phrase used? if so, have you any idea where it surfaced and if maybe
     the word does exist?  i've thought that perhaps i'm mispelling it, but
     there aren't too many ways to combine ir (or irr) and escapable.

      i loved the snow we had here in pgh, but i didn't get to play in it.
      i watched it from the window of d.l. computer lab, though, and i got
      to hear about playing in it from friends who don't go to school.

      does fun through osmosis count?  if so, i'm having lots of it.

                                       everyday in every way,
                                                          bekka
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:20:09 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: End of year Retrospective

>Graham and Tushar will hate this, but I have to mention, as
>"Best and Worst Events", the list supporting those of us
>who have had family and personal tragedies in the past year.
>
>love, judith

Why will I hate this?

tushar
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Red Line Story
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Posted on 14 Dec 1992 at 17:34:51 by Bill Merrill

>Anyway, Diane works dayside as the assistant manager of a shop
>in Braintree, and Karen, the co-assistant manager, gets off work
>around 11 pm. When she takes the Red Line home, she is usually
>the only passenger, so it wasn't long before Karen and the guys
>who run the train became friendly. The other night the engineer
>invited her up front. "Come on in here," he said. "It's much
>better." So she rode in the engineer's cab all the way to her
>stop. He even let her drive! As she left, the engineer asked
>if she would be taking the same train the next night. "Sure,"
>Karen said. "Well," he said, "be ready to go to Alewife.
>The tunnels are really neat out there!"

Reminds me - the driver's compartment on the Toronto subway cars occupies
only half the width of the car.  There is a passenger seat and a front
window on the other side.  I grew up with being able to look out the
front, and got used to all the tunnels when I was a kid.  So I was
appalled to find on my first trip on a subway in another city (London)
that the entire front of the train was blocked off by the driver's
space.

This seems to be the rule on the subways I've seen.  Are there others
that let you see out the front ?

Tony H.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:39:06 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Birthdays
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Subj:   RE: Birthdays

> Oh well -- time for lovely Ludwig van.

Just for an irrelevant laugh. The funniest famous birthday
notice I think I ever saw, was

        March 15 - Leipzig - J.S. Bach goes for Baroque

This is from memory so date and place may be orf.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:17:42 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Neologisms
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1992, Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815) wrote:

> I take off points for misusing "there" "their" and "they're."  I'll
> probably get ripped for it on at least one course evaluation.  If
> the comments are suitably semiliterate, I may even post them for the
> amusement and amazement of the list.  I'm also considering adding
> "affect" and "effect" to the penalty point list.
>
So do I.  I also take off points for misusing "its" and "it's."
Do any of your students write "were" for "where"?

doris
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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:   If you bring your pretty little head to bear on what has actually
: been said, you will find that these are pleasantly tepid waters.
: Nobody's beliefs are being questioned or challenged. Rather, the
: question is just what Peter and other people mean when they say that
: all deep beliefs should be respected. I'm not surprised that it proved

That and I'm just being gratuitously rude because I don't like him.

G
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:26:33 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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Actually the posting came from CMC, the innocuous front group that spawns
the insidious splinter orgs like P-H. ;-)

-abh
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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Welcome aboard, Steve.  Your address doesn't say where you're actually located
-- is it DC?  RTI?  Cincinnati?  I have a good friend at EPA in Cincy, a
less-good friend inside the Beltway.

>          nit-picking entymologists, right?  Wrong!  This morning I walk in

Speaking of which, does an 'entymologist' do research on insect word origins?
That would certainly fit with 'nit-picking.'

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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Where Love Has Gone
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> Hi giggles.  Glad to hear Mr. Eyebee got it <up> again.
>
> Steve Karlson

thanks S&K, but I want it to be clearly understood that it was
with no <help> from me.
He had bad breath.
--ggs
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Snow
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>Would someone please explain to this Texan how snow is measured?  Do you
>mean that the 24" snowfall that Ruth said is predicted in a portion of CT
>is actually 2 feet deep?  And if so, is it measured as it first falls or
>after it has compacted somewhat (similar to flour that has settled,
>causing the bag not to be full, as opposed to sifted flour that has not
>settled or campacted).  I really *do* want to know.

        I'm sure there's an official method of measuring snow, devised and
        promulgated by the National Weather Service.  We measured our snowfall
        by taking a ruler out into the backyard and seeing how far along it the
        snow rose.  Soon, when the ruler became completely buried, we had to
        use a longer stick of some sort, then measure the snow mark with a tape
        measure.  Most recent estimate here is ~15 inches, but it's very very
        wet snow and will compact to less by tomorrow.  We'll try X-C skiing
        tomorrow, but I don't think it'll be too good.

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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: PCH Sweepstakes
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> I was very surprised to get a letter from the Treasurer of PCH the other
> day.  The first paragraph reads "Our Director of Contests, Margarete
> Thuemmler, advises me that you are one of the people who meets all
> requirements to guarantee you Finalist status in our current
> Sweepstakes. Congratulations!"

I got one too.

> So keep your fingers crossed--it may be time to start ordering the Suns
> and checking out boats for the Words-L Villefranche Tour. I trust Carol

Yes!
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:18:00 -0700
From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: JMW

"No such node AKRON defined"  8-( 8-( 8-(
Can't get 'em, can't send 'em...  I like bats, Evelyn, so could I use rabid
weasels instead?

JMW
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Date: 12 Dec 92 00:50:58 GMT
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>I weep unabashedly. Alas, I cannot write poems at the drop of a hat, but
>if I were able to, take it as official that I would have written three.
>Will you ever forgive me, Carolyn?
>
>tushar

Oh, fickleness, thy name is tushar! O perfidy! Ingratitude! I weep, I faint, 
I gnash my teeth!  What more must I do?

--bayla
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