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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:56:13 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Bruce Kaplan, Founder of Flying Fish Records, is Dead at 47

Stolen from BGRASS-L:

From Flying Fish Records
December 16, 1992

  Flying Fish Records Inc. founder and president Bruce Kaplan
died Tuesday, December 15, 1992.  He was 47.
  Kaplan held bachelor's and master's degrees in anthropology
from the University of Chicago, where he was a Woodrow Wilson
Fellow. His area of specialty was South Asia and he lived and
collected folk tales in India where he appeared in popular Tamil
language films.
  He founded the label in 1973 after being a producer for Rounder
Records in Boston.  In the 19 years since Flying Fish was
started, more than 500 titles by more than 200 artists have been
issued.  The diversity of the catalog reflected Kaplan's broad
view of folk music that included Andean, Klezmer, Japanese,
Appalachian, Celtic, Eastern European, Hispanic, and African
strains.
  In addition to his involvement with the record company, Kaplan
was on the board of directors of Chicago's Old Town School of
Folk Music, and Sing Out! magazine.  He served on the committee
for the City of Chicago's Blues Festival and an advisor to the
University of Chicago Folklore Society.  He also served on the
Illinois Arts Council and on the folk screening committee for the
Grammy Awards.  He was a active in the Chicago chapter of NARAS
(National Academy of the Recording Arts and Sciences), NAIRD
(National Association of Independent Record Distributors and
Manufacturers and the North American Folk Alliance.  Kaplan was a
Citizen's Party candidate for the Illinois Legislature in 1980,
amassing 10 per cent of the vote.  He also was the founding
editor of the Chicago Reader.
   At this time, plans are for the company to go forward, using
Kaplan's vision as a guide to future activities.
   Graveside services are scheduled for 10 p.m. Friday, December
18, 1992 at Jewish Waldheim Cemetery, 1400 South DesPlaines St.,
Forest Park, Ill.
   A memorial service is scheduled for noon Friday at the Old
Town School of Folk Music, 909 W. Armitage Ave., Chicago, Ill.
60614.
   In lieu of flowers, the family suggests contributions to the
Old Town School of Folk Music, Sing Out! P.O. Box 5253,
Bethlehem, Pa 18015-0253 or Cultural Survival, 2l5 First Street,
Cambridge, Mass. 02142.
   Bruce is survived by his wife Sandra, daughter Anna, mother,
brother Michael, nieces and nephews and hundreds of friends.

Ken Irwin @ Rounder Records  - MCI Mail ID # 550-0084

-Scott "Bummed" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:23:29 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: What the World Needs Now

>Heard a song on the radio this weekend called "What the World Needs Now,"
>by a band named _Teen Angst_.  The refrain went, in part:
>
>What the world needs now is another folk-singer
>like I need a hole in my head
>
>My own folk-singerosity (though not by M. Bloom's standards) notwithstanding,
>I got a big kick out of this.  Anybody know anything about this band?

Actually, the band is named Cracker and the song you referred to is called
_Teen Angst (What the World Needs Now)_.  They are fun... include some former
members of, geesh, Camper Van Beethoven??, I forgot.  The album cover is neat
too -- a half open can of sardines.   I think you'd like them, Scott.



-Scott "But We Gave You a Hole in your Head Just Last Week" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:12:00 CDT
From:         S_SWANK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      re: names & covers

>Buck Naked and the Bare Naked Boys

Dallas has their own Buck Naked -- but unlike yours, this one is still
alive and playing with his band:  Buck Naked and the Jaybirds.
They've been around forever, and Buck is quite a character ... a
very devout Subgenius slack worshipper (know him Rev. Bob??).
Haven't seen em in a while, but they used to have songs with titles
like "You Only Love Me Cuz I Work on Your Car" and "The Bloody Head
of Arnold Palmer."

A couple of other good names on local bands:   Tex Edwards and the
   Swingin' Cornflake Killers     and the ever timely   Lithium X-MAS.

As for album covers: the first to Velvet Underground album covers are
still pretty damn ahead of their time...almost 30 years later.  And how
about that old Alice Cooper album that came with a pair of panties...
All this talk about Pink Floyd reminds me of that album "Relics" which
had pictures of those really cool clay bottle openers with two sets of
eyes each....

Ah well...Complements of the season to you all,

Sallie
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:50:35 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: back to the garden

On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:15:52 MST Thumper said:
>I'm not sure if there are any Joni Mitchell fans out here in Allmusicland or
>not... I'm hoping a couple of old farts may find this of minimal interest. :)
>
>I picked up _Back to the Garden, A Tribute to Joni Mitchell_ which is a

Did I miss something & has Joni passed away, or is this Thursday-never-could-
get-the-hang-of-Thursdays in disguise?
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:01:56 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: album cover

favorite album cover : KRoNoS Quartet, _Black Angels_

                                          -T
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Subject: Re: President-elect Clinton fails the ALLMUSIC taste test
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:12:33 GMT
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In article <ALLMUSIC%92121609061454@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU> writes:
>On NPR's _Morning Edition_ this morning, there was a story about President-
>elect Clinton's leisure-time activities.  The two musicians (aside from
>Elvis) who were mentioned as current Clinton favorites were Michael Bolton
>and Kenny G.

Speaking of the unspeakable Kenny G, it seems that the late avant garde
musician Hal Russell likes Kenny's sound, and on his latest ECM record Hal's
Bells, he has a tune called Kenny G.  In the liner notes he says that
his NRG ensemble refused to play it because they hate Kenny G.  Hal said
he found his sound "interesting".  Then he said he was one of the last
person to have an instrumental top 40 hit, which "you have to respect".
Then he thought about it and said, "ok, you don't HAVE to..."

What can you say, but that everyone has a favorite musician or piece of
music that is dopey.

Anthony Braxton dedicates his compositions to different people.  You
would be surpised at some of them.  They range from "good" musicians
like Warne Marsh to the more "unlikely" musicians like Lou Donaldson to
nonmusical people such as chess master Bobby Fisher to the children's tv 
personality Mr. Rogers.   No kidding.  

>Clearly, Clinton's taste in music does not measure up to ALLMUSIC's high
>standards.  What's a liberal ALLMUSICer to do?

Clearly he is a hick.  Hopefully someone will lay a tape of Evan Parker
on him with his next box of playable reeds.   And if he likes him, he
should tell the damn State department to give him an artist visa so he 
can play in the USA any time he damn pleases.

Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:50:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      New Acoustic Music

>From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>

>So the New Acoustic Music (my name) filled a void that classical and early
>music hadn't quite managed & filled it very well.  I suppose it isn't really
>new any more, but I like it just fine.

"New Acoustic Music" is what Elderly Instruments calls it, too.  It's one
of their regular bin headings.  If you have trouble finding it locally,
try Elderly Instruments mailorder.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:04:42 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Catching up with ALLMUSIC
              17 Dec 1992 10:52:57 EST from <RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VN ET.IBM.COM>

On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:52:57 EST <RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM> said:
>Paul was digging for some dirt:
>
>>Gentle Giant: Acquiring the Taste, Free Hand, Gentle Giant, Octopus,
>>              Three Friends
>
>I recently picked up _The Power and The Glory_ and _Octopus_ because of some
>recommendations. If you don't quite know what to expect, this is very difficult
>music to get into. I've only given both of them 2 or 3 spins, but there's a lot
>of quirky stuff that surprised me. I prefer _Octopus_ at the moment and I think
>I'll come to like that one...
>
Perhaps not that difficult.  The 2 albums I have--courtesy of net
recommendations--sound not-quite-like-early-Jethro-Tull, but as if the band
had *listened* to early Tull & decided to go out and do something similar.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Softens heads while you do dishes!
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:27:55 GMT

In article <Pine.2.4.9212121417.A16034@eis.calstate.edu> "Timothy M. Williams" <twillia@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU> writes:
>Perhaps tachist school applies to Ligeti, and if you stretch, it can apply
>to Penderecki.  However, the appropriate title for the music of Xenakis is
>stochastic (from the Greek meaning games) music.  Xenakis' music is based
>on probabibility theory which is carefully worked out.

Some of it is, but not all Xenakis music is stochastic.   Xenakis
sometimes uses scales, albeit scales which repeat after intervals other
than octaves.  He even has been sounding ethnic lately.  
Even so, stochastic techniques can produce the tachist sound.

Jeff
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:49:00 EDT
From:         Another message from Rosemary! <RWARREN@TOPAZ.CONCORDIA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Teddy Bears' Picnic

The Teddy Bears' Picnic
=======================
author and original artist unknown, as recalled from memory by Rosemary Warren

If you go down in the woods today,
you're in for a big surprise!
If you go down in the woods today,
you'd better go in disguise!

for every bear that ever there was
will gather there for certain because
today's the day the teddy bears have their pic-nic!

And every teddy bear who's been good
is sure of a treat today!
there's lots of marvelous things to eat
and wonderful games to play!
beneath the trees where nobody sees
they'll hide and seek and long as they please
'cause that's the way  the teddy bears have their pic-nic!

Rosemary Warren         rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
(quote omitted so as not to confuse the masses)
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:58:21 MST
From:         Mark Badolato <IFMXB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: punk rock stuff

Ben, you fuckin' moron, that message was directed to Gabe, not you.

Mark

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'In the immortal words of Socrates who once said "I drank what!!??!?"
        -- Chris Knight "Real Genuis"
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:40:47 -0500
From:         jkh2001@ANDY.BGSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Allmusic Guide to Netiquette

>    BITNET:
>    6.  Post to the proper list.
>
>    Allmusic:
>    6. Crosspost, crosspost, crosspost, crosspost.
>
        Is this anything like cross-checking?

KJtW (who graduates in 4 days)

"Is there blood?  Hockey players love the sight of blood, especially their
own." - Rob Lowe, "Youngblood"
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:07:56 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Mr. Bungle

Rev Bob sez....
>Sonia talks about music and how it changed the thread of your life.
>I remember, oh I remember!  I was a real geek in high school, and it
>wasn't until I started listening to rock'n'roll and started liking
>rock'n'roll that I realized that maybe I might have a chance to
>meet an actual, you know, girl.
>
>Turned out I was wrong.  I was just a geek who liked rock'n'roll.  Do
>any of you know any girls?

Bob, you might meet more of us if you stop calling us "girls". I don't know
how old you are, but I'm 21 and I prefer the term "women". Notice how I
spelled that - I'm not a PC fanatic or anything - I just prefer to be
referred to as an adult,OK?

Women, Bob. Welcome to the 90's.

Marsha "It's bad enough they call me "babe" at work...." Ferziger

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:49:42 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Digital vs., etc.

>>The audiophile folks tend to be analog proponents, saying it is more
>>musical.  However, whenever they talk about music, I get the impression
>>their knowledge of music is suspect.  For one thing, they tend to like
>>records that have good engineering over good musical performances.  The
>>classic audiophile record is the soundtrack to Casino Royale.  Casino
>>Royale might be good film music, but it is hardly the type of thing to
>>get excited about on a musical point of view.

That's because they were listening to the sound quality and not the talent
level, pretty much every "phile" i've been around has been very knowlegeable
about music.

>The audiophiles  also tend to shy away from little niceties like double-blind
>listening tests (-:  The last time I read about a d-b test of CD players,
>the audiophiles in the sample couldn't reliably tell the difference between
>the cheap and the expensive players until they got to the $1500 models, ie,
>an entire magnitude of cost difference.  I trust my own ears, thank you very
>much, and I strongly advise the rest of you to do the same, if you aren't
>already.  Even if they lead you to the wrong conclusion (-:

I do believe they could tell the diff between analog and digital.
......................L.W.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:23:24 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Progrock/King Crimson

There were some rumors (maybe a little more solid than rumor) floating
around here not too long ago about Fripp putting together another edition
of King Crimson. Has anyone gotten any solid info on this? Album, tours,
personnel, other plans etc.?

Also with respect to progressive rock, I'm interested in picking up some good
stuff by bands other than KC & Yes (the only recordings I have that fall into
that category) so I did some scanning of the archives and found a few previous
posts on the subject. Michael Bloom had a good post on the 'Canterbury
school', and I've picked up a couple of other names here, such as Peter
Hammill. So I picked up my trusty Noteworthy catalog to see what's available,
and need advice on their selections. (I browsed at a coupld of local stores,
but aside from one placard for Hammill behind which were no CD's, I came up
empty.) Here's what Noteworthy offers:

Camel: Compact Compilation, Pressure Points
Gentle Giant: Acquiring the Taste, Free Hand, Gentle Giant, Octopus,
              Three Friends
Gong: Gazuese (with Holdsworth - yeah!)
Peter Hammill: Black Box, Fool's Mate, Over
Hatfield and the North: <eponymous>, Rotter's Club
Soft Machine: Third (2 on 1 CD)

(Nothing from Caravan or Robery Wyatt listed.)

Any guidance about the above would be appreciated, as would be recommendations
for other stuff (and please don't tell me about some impossible to obtain
recording that's a 'must have great classic orgasmic album' :-)

BTW, I was going through a bunch of my jazz CD's last night to put together an
intro tape for a friend, and pulling out Miles's album 'Working', noticed a
cut named Bloomdido! (And it was great to listen to some of that stuff again,
it's been a while since I've pulled that one out - Four, The Theme, Ahmad's
Blues... classic stuff.)

Paul Heroy
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Date: 16 Dec 92 13:48:24 GMT
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On NPR's _Morning Edition_ this morning, there was a story about President-
elect Clinton's leisure-time activities.  The two musicians (aside from
Elvis) who were mentioned as current Clinton favorites were Michael Bolton
and Kenny G.

Yuck!

Clearly, Clinton's taste in music does not measure up to ALLMUSIC's high
standards.  What's a liberal ALLMUSICer to do?

-Scott "Disillusioned" Hammer
 College of William and Mary

P.S. In a recent story in the _Boston Globe_ about rumors that the Grateful
     Dead would be playing at the inauguration, Jerry Garcia said "Al and
     Tipper came to a show the last time we were in Washington.  They seem
     like real nice people -- a nice family.  We made every effort not to
     frighten them."
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: The deluge part 2: gurls in bands
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:37:18 GMT

In article <92354.204349MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET> MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET writes:
>Dear Jeff,
>  I'm relieved not to have a flamefest on my hands. Do you agree with
>Maitre Bloom about her recent music, or no?

Sort of.  It hasn't made any impression on me, although there may be
stuff that is not bad.

On the other hand, she is very good on her arrangements for Charlie
Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra on the album Dream Keeper.

I disagree with him on Joni.  While "Mingus" might be the album I like
least, I like the period of her music in which Jaco was in the band.
Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is great.

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:29:05 CST
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Mr. Bungle

Marsha "It's bad enough they call me "babe" at work...." Ferziger sez:

>Bob, you might meet more of us if you stop calling us "girls". I don't know
>how old you are, but I'm 21 and I prefer the term "women". Notice how I
>spelled that - I'm not a PC fanatic or anything - I just prefer to be
>referred to as an adult,OK?
>
>Women, Bob. Welcome to the 90's.

No, I mean girls.  Little girls.  In leather.  With little lace
panties (snort, slobber).  Sell me your daughters!  Sorry, Marsha,
the whole thing was intended as a giggle; I thought you knew I was
married with two mostly-grown kids.

OMC: The dadblasted tape machine got stuck in my bag so that a button
was partially pushed, and by the time I got to listen to any of the
tapes my batteries were run down.  So reviews have to wait until after
this weekend.  I got your grunge band tape, Rotcod Zzaj, so that's
on the queue, too.

Anyway, I listened to the A Cappella tape 2 again last night just for
fun and I liked it even better then the first time.  Definitely make
a tape 3 and sign me up!  Oops, now I admitted that I listened to
something for fun when I had obligations.  Abject groveling follows.
+----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
| Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen     | Knock knock. Who's there? Phillip Glass.|
| crispen@foxy.boeing.com    | Knock knock. Who's there? Phillip Glass.|
|                            | KnoCk knock. Who's there? Phillip Glass.|
|                            | Knock knock. WhO's there? Phillip Glass.|
|                            | Knock knock. Who's there? Phillip Glass.|
|                            | Knock knock. Who's theRe? Phillip Glass.|
|                            | Knock knock. Who's there? Phillip GlAss.|
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:34:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Incredible String Band

There was recently mention of the Incredible String Band.  While looking
through the catalog from Elderly Instruments, I noticed that Elderly is
offering "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter" for $7.95 on vinyl.  Yes,
vinyl.  Elderly is one of the few places in town where you can still
purchase new vinyl.  And yes, this is a reissue.  The catalog number is
CART-4421.  Shipping costs are based upon total dollar value of your
order and the lowest fee they list is $4.25 for $10 - $20 order.  So
I don't know what they would charge if "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter"
is all you order.

The address is:   Elderly Instruments
                  1100 N Washington
                  PO Box 14210
                  Lansing MI 48901
                  (517) 372-7890

They're a real good store for acoustic music and do carry some electric
gear.  If you're interested in acoustic music, you should consider
getting on their mailing list.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:13:54 EST
From:         Michael <EVK102@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Cd vs Vinyl

More about the quality of digital versus the quality of vinyl...

Have you noticed that in the production side of music, (that is, r+r...)
that most artists tend to use equipment that features the smallest number
of solid state components possible?  Instead, they fuss with being careful
and having to replace tubes at a much greater cost.  I, myself, play this
extremely solid-state Crate that I never can get a good sound out of.
Has this retreat to the technology of yesteryear spread to the listening
end of the spectrum?


More about cd's and vinyl...

I listened to some records for the first time in a long time.  I was somewhat
annoyed by the record snap, crackle, and pop.  However, then I listened to a
cd and I felt the overwelming urge to pump the mids and bass some more.
(Speaking of that, I recently bought some front door panel speakers for my car.
The salesman talked me into buying the more trebley pair versus the warmer pair
because they would be down low and it would be easier to hear the higher tones
because they are more directional.  I think I'm going to pay someone to beat
hi up...)  I guess that the entire issue revolves around priorities.  Do you
need a clean, noise free sounding recording in order for it to sound good,
or do you not care about the background noise, and you feel that the origional
sound of the recording is more important?  Thsi question cannot be answered
for all but is up to each one of us to answer for ourselves.

- Michael
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