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From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Subject: Re: Rush Fan
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:11:49 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

According to my calculations, iyengars@pub2.bu.edu typed...
> 
>    I think that my friend and fellow Rush fan Jay put it best when 
> he defined one of the key factors of a true Rush fan:
>    "In order to become a true Rush fan, you gotta convert atleast  one
> person into worshipping Rush and make at least one person absolutely
> hate Rush" - Well, I have found this to be true in most of the

This is something that has annoyed me for a while.  Why is it that so many
people feel obligated to "worship" Rush and treat them as gods?  I don't
intend to put Rush down by this - Rush is one of my favorite bands, but
let's be realistic here.  Rush is just 3 guys who play musical instruments,
not 3 gods.  It's people who "worship" Rush that propagate the net
stereotype of the annoying Rush fan.

On a similar note:  Why are some of you people (and you know who you are)
so proud of the fact that all you ever listen to is Rush?  I'm not used to
seeing musical closed-mindedness as something to brag about.  (Maybe that's
because I'm a musician, though.)  Geez, people.  It's possible to be a Rush
fan and listen to other musicians - the members of Rush won't be jealous or
anything if you listen to other people too!

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 They have their exits and their entrances;  -- Wm. Shakespeare  (1564-1616)
 And one man in his time plays many parts."    _As You Like It_  II,vii,39
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: A reason to say yes to alt.music.queensryche!
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:31:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Jul28.142734.10546@pool.info.sunyit.edu> gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman) writes:

>	Yup, here's the best reason of all to vote for the creation of
>alt.music.queensryche:  
>	Maybe it will get this friggin discussion out of alt.music.rush!!!!!


I couldn't agree more strongly!!


Gregg


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From: decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Time Signatures
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:07:36 GMT
Reply-To: decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD)
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Talking about time signature, I have a question for the musical hacker:

   In a A/B signature, I know that the A is the number of beats in 
   one bar, but I'm not really sure what the B means...

   For examples: What's the difference between a 7/4 and a 7/8 ???


Thank's in advance, and sorry to disturb the non-musicians, but you might
learn something interesting if you are a real RUSH fan... The beat masters..


BYE
MAD

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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Moving Pictures Back (and a discovery! read this, please!)
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:19:21 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <D40374W.92Jul21221751@kaira.hut.fi> d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen) writes:
>In article <91420@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>   * interestingly, the photo of Neil does not appear on the CD version in
>   the U.S.

>...or in Europe. My Moving Pictures CD is printed in (West) Germany. 


> two Rush singles. One of them
>was Freewill/Closer to the heart, which wasn't a very interesting
>discovery. The other one was New world man/Vital signs (live). Now,
>this was something!


>The song itself - or, the live version of it - is very very good. 

>I was just wondering if this is a rare beast. Does anyone else
>own this? 


I don't know if it's rare, but I have a copy. :)



Gregg


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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jstimson@jarthur.claremont.edu (John Stimson)
Subject: Re: Rush Fan
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:15:36 GMT

In article <92157@bu.edu> iyengars@pub2.bu.edu (Sridhar Iyengar) writes:

>And also I was just curious to know if ANYONE out there got
>a mohawk hair cut just because Neil did?!? No, I wasn't considering it myself.
>Oh well, that's about all for now.
>
>-Sridhar

Hey, is THAT why Neil was wearing that rag on his head at the concert?  
I thought he was going for the pirate-look or something...

							John
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: johno@hal.lv-physics.nevada.edu (John Palubinskas - Graduate Student)
Subject: just b.s.
Organization: UNLV Department of Physics
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:32:45 GMT

Keywords: 


hey there-

a good friend of mine named Nancy is one of the biggest RUSH fans that I know of.
 Some of you may have her on the RUSH rockline interview that geddy did for
Presto.
	 AAnyhoo... being originally from NY, she went to a Yankee vs. Blue Jays
game and actually spotted ged and his brother in the crowd!!!   She managed to
talk with him briefly, but he was a little apprehensive because he didn't want to
cause a scene...    (understandably so.)

	I must say that she's one up on me when it comes to conversing with
legends.....



but I do have a question.... 

I may have been listening to the end of ESL all wrong, but what does Geddy say at
the end???  - thank you very much, that's all  --- or thank you very much, good
night......????

there's a LaBatts riding on the  answer..


Johno
From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Time Signatures
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:43:43 GMT

In <1992Jul27.140736.23063@IRO.UMontreal.CA> decostem@IRO.UMontreal.CA (MAD Marc MAD Andre MAD Decoste MAD) writes:


>Talking about time signature, I have a question for the musical hacker:

>   In a A/B signature, I know that the A is the number of beats in 
>   one bar, but I'm not really sure what the B means...

>   For examples: What's the difference between a 7/4 and a 7/8 ???

The bottom number is the type of note that the beat consists of.  7/4 means
seven quarter notes, 7/8 means seven eighth notes, etc.

I'm not *too* sure about this, but it seems as though 7/8, 5/8, 10/8, etc.
are not compound meters, like 3/8, 6/8, 9/8, and 12/8, where there is a
triplet feel.  I guess it's pretty hard to get a triplet feel from something
that isn't divisible by 3.....


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From: lindaman4833@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: One Liners
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:10:11 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Just thought I'd put in my $.02 about this whole favorite one-liner thing. 
I've always been partial to the following one-liners:

1) "He knows changes aren't permanent/ But change is."
                        ---"Tom Sawyer" (hey I'm a big Mark Twain fan)

2) "The hopeful depend on a world without end/ Whatever the hopeless may say."
                        ---"Manhattan Project"

3) "You can do a lot in a lifetime/ If you don't burn out too fast."
                        ---"Marathon"

4) "Trust is just as rare as devotion./ Forgive us our cynical thoughts."
                        ---"Emotion Detector"

5) "How can anybody be enlightened?/ Truth is after all so poorly lit."
                        ---"Turn the Page"

6) "I know progress has no patience,/ But something's got to give."
                        ---"Second Nature"

7) The entire part from "Prime Mover" from "I set the wheels in motion..." to
        "And watch the world go 'round." (not exactly a one-liner, but I like
                it)

8) "I could disappear into the crowd/ Not if I keep my head in the clouds."
                        ---"Hand Over Fist" (somebody has to like it)

9) "I was lined up for glory,/ But the tickets sold out in advance."
                        ---"The Big Wheel"

10) "All of us get lost in the darkness/ Dreamers learn to steer by the stars."
                        ---"The Pass"

Well, there you go.  I can't really pick out a favorite of all these, but if I
had to, I'd go with #5 for the serious point or #9 for pure fun.

Alex Lifeson's evil twin,

Tom Lindaman

"A spirit with a vision
        Is a dream with a mission."
                ---"Mission" by Rush 

P.S. The only reason I didn't put the "Mission" line in my list is because I
think it transends simple one-liners.  In fact, it's become my motto because I
was listening to it when I got word of my acceptance into grad school. 
Coincidence.... I THINK NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: tcnolan@unity.ncsu.edu (Troy Nolan)
Subject: Re: Other-than-Rush favorites
Organization: North Carolina State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:53:04 GMT

I think you really need to look at the entire progression of these
bands and see where all they have been. I would certainly have a
different opinion of U2, for instance, if all I heard was Joshua Tree.
But I have been listening to U2 since about 1983 and have seen them
come a long way. Listen to _War_ then to _unforgettable Fire_ then to
_Tree_ then to _achtung baby_; these guys have not been afraid to 
change their music and try new things. Also, I think that Bono 
can write some pretty darn good lyrics (although no where near Neil).

Listen to some old cure, say _pornography_, then listen to _kiss me_.
these are very different albums. i will agree that _high_ breaks 
very little new ground for the cure, but all bands have records that
are good and solid, but not revolutionary. Even rush. 
The biggest breakthrough on _high_ are in the lyrics, which contain
a newfound optimism at times.

On the issue of other bands: I think rem has shown a willingness to 
experiment and not become stagnant, even though the results
occaisonally don't thrill me. Pink Floyd certainly was willing to 
experiment, and were very talented. I used to love floyd. The last
album was enjoyable, but it was nothing new. I also think that the
who were one of the most incredibly talented bands ever, and were also
apt to experiment. Witness Tommy.

Anyway, Enough of this!! Let's talk about Rush!

As we all know, the boyz added "Vital Signs", "Analog Kid" and "The
Trees" to the set on the last leg of the RTB tour. Which of these 
was the biggest shock/joy to our readers?

For me it had to be AKid. I never thought I would see it performed 
again. It excited me more than "xananu" did on Presto.  

Gotta roll the bone (and write some code)
Rodney Boles
via friend's account
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Newsgroups: alt.music.category-freak,alt.emusic,rec.music.makers,comp.music
From: larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (CAREFUL WITH THAT AXE, EUGENE)
Subject: Re: What is freak music ?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 21:58:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
Distribution: alt.music.category-freak
Keywords: random music, computer composing, celluar automata
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Jul26.085540.16609@becker.GTS.ORG>, bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes...
>In article <1992Jul15.212744.3873@jyu.fi> tola@jyu.fi (Teemu Olavi Lahteenmaki) writes:
>|Seems quite dead group to me.. I wonder am I alone here..?
>|
>|Well I suppose 'random' or 'computer composed' music must be defined as 
>|'freak music', at least in some degree, so here goes..
>|
>|I have been working on random music production with coputer using different 
>|kind of celluar automation as the basis. So now I have quite independent 
>|entities (automates) interacting with each other using strict rules (which 
>|may be changed randomly). Now when these automates 'interact', they send
>|and receive signals to each other, and these signals can change automates
>|'state'. Now, if you assing a certain note to certain state-change, you
>|can eventually produce quite nice, if not rythmical, sequential music..
>|Well if there is interest, I could explain this in more detail, but the
>|effort/result ratio may not be so high..
>|
>|So has anyone else done any similar experiments in random music or computer-
>|composig ? Any ideas ?
>|

  I have.  Fractal Music! We used fractal data to control the notes, etc.
We made quite a few fractal .mods.
In fact, I could probably uuencode the best one if anyone is interested 
enough.


Shawn



Newsgroups: alt.music.category-freak,alt.emusic,rec.music.makers,comp.music
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Subject: Re: What is freak music ?
Keywords: random music, computer composing, celluar automata
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: alt.music.category-freak
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:55:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.212744.3873@jyu.fi> tola@jyu.fi (Teemu Olavi Lahteenmaki) writes:
|Seems quite dead group to me.. I wonder am I alone here..?
|
|Well I suppose 'random' or 'computer composed' music must be defined as 
|'freak music', at least in some degree, so here goes..
|
|I have been working on random music production with coputer using different 
|kind of celluar automation as the basis. So now I have quite independent 
|entities (automates) interacting with each other using strict rules (which 
|may be changed randomly). Now when these automates 'interact', they send
|and receive signals to each other, and these signals can change automates
|'state'. Now, if you assing a certain note to certain state-change, you
|can eventually produce quite nice, if not rythmical, sequential music..
|Well if there is interest, I could explain this in more detail, but the
|effort/result ratio may not be so high..
|
|So has anyone else done any similar experiments in random music or computer-
|composig ? Any ideas ?
|
|-- 
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|I  Teemu Lahteenmaki - student of mathematical computing   I
|I  Intergalactical University of Jyvaskyla, Finland        I
|I_ Internet: tola@jyu.fi __________________________________I



	Can you make the rules behave in the style of musical
	genres (like funk, jazz, rhumba, etc.)?


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Newsgroups: alt.music.category-freak,alt.emusic,rec.music.makers,comp.music
From: quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia)
Subject: Re: What is freak music ?
Keywords: random music, computer composing, celluar automata
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: alt.music.category-freak
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:12:47 GMT


Actually, everybody and their dog, from Dallapicola on, has composed
pieced that were based in some way on the Fibonacci series. Recently,
Ligeti and Wuorinen have utilized fractal structures in their compositional
procedures. The Idea of proportion itself is fundamental to music and
theories about it are as old as music itself. The term "freak music"
is not only vague and derisive, it belies a deep ignorance of the
evolution of ideas in music.
Newsgroups: alt.music.category-freak,alt.emusic,rec.music.makers,comp.music
From: alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne)
Subject: Re: What is freak music ?
Keywords: random music, computer composing, celluar automata
Organization: Einoed Unix & Netzwerke, Berlin (FRG)
Distribution: alt.music.category-freak
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:17:31 GMT

larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (CAREFUL WITH THAT AXE, EUGENE) writes:

>In article <1992Jul26.085540.16609@becker.GTS.ORG>, bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes...
>>In article <1992Jul15.212744.3873@jyu.fi> tola@jyu.fi (Teemu Olavi Lahteenmaki) writes:
>>|Well I suppose 'random' or 'computer composed' music must be defined as 
>>|'freak music', at least in some degree, so here goes..
>>|
>>|I have been working on random music production with coputer using different 
>>|kind of celluar automation as the basis. So now I have quite independent 
[...]
>  I have.  Fractal Music! We used fractal data to control the notes, etc.
>We made quite a few fractal .mods.
>In fact, I could probably uuencode the best one if anyone is interested 
>enough.

Elliot Sharp (Carbon) did some compositions based on fibonacci numbers
and fractals. He plays those songs on guitar and bass which sounds
quite interesting (very percussive). There is a CD, title 'Carbon', which 
contains three LP's, one of which is 'Fractal'.

Adrian
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From: davidc@pta.pyramid.com.au (David Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Jon and ... Kitaro!
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:54:10 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney


wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:

>>This is my 1st Kitaro disc (I bought it cuz of Jon), are all Kitaro this good?

>Let's just say that animal shelters all over the world are disposing
>of their gas chambers and lethal injections and are investing in
>CD players and Kitaro CD libraries. Much less cruel, and it
>accomplishes the same goal.

	Brilliant! So you don't like either! So why post this crap? 
	Post via /dev/null next time! 

	Just had to say that..... If your interested in Kitaro I'd suggest 
trying to have a listen to "Introduction To Kitaro". IHMO a good cross
section of what he does. I have several of the "Silk Road" releases ( 1,2,3 I
think ) and have heard some of his others. All quite good in their own right.
 	This post caught my eye ( not only for the S.F.B ) as I've only just 
picked up some Jon Anderson ( City of Angels, ABWH , and Friends of Mr Cairo ).
Can only imagine that both these performers together would be worth a listen.

Really enjoy C.O.As'. One question though! On the release I have there are no
credits for the Performing Muso's. On the Second last track. There is some very
destintive Guitaring and I'd bet that it's Steve Lukather ( Toto/Studio gtrst. )
Could anyone confirm this for me!?!!?

ta 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: sjm8118@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Random Questions
Reply-To: sjm8118@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:55:44 GMT

Question One:  Could anyone provide some information on the bands Gong and 
             Camel (i.e. general style/sound, best albums, are they worth 
             looking into?)?

Question Two:  How hard are old Genesis singles to come by in the US on vinyl
             (in other words, I've bought every Genesis album from 1970-1976
             and I'm desperate to find b-sides from this period!)?  Does anyone
             have a mail order address I could look into for this?

Question Three:  Are recordings of the "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" tour 
               available (I'd love to hear this live in it's entirety (sp) but
               all I can ever find are recordings from "Selling England..."!)?
Question Four:  I just got a spiffy new sound card that can record CD quality
              audio, would anyone like anything posted to cs.uwp.edu in 
              pub/music/sound(s?) if I can figure out FTP and managed not to
              get arrested for copyright infringment (or whatever, it shouldn't
              be a real problem, as I doubt anyone would get immensly excited
              over 6-15 second sound bites, and I would find a way to credit 
              the artist.)?

                                          Scott McDonough
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Legend Soundtrack
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:23:58 GMT


Boy those studios sure know how to mess things up ! I hadn't known about the TD/Jon Anderson thing. I however read in Keyboard mag that the original soundtrack was done by Jerry Goldsmith (I think it was largely electronic - its interesting that many film score composers such as Goldsmith and Maurice Jarre, who have composed for orchestra also from time to time do purely electronic scores). Legend was I think released in Europe with Jerry's ST, but the film didn't do well and the blame fell on the ST so th






e studio got TD to do another soundtrack and released Legend with TD's ST in North America ! They must have been in a real panic to on top of that get Anderson to sing ithout TD's permission.


Shiv
From: STEVE.SYCAMORE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Steve Sycamore")
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Eden's Taste
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:09:45 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

In 1983 a German power trio called Eden's Taste recorded what could be
one of the finest albums coming from the European continent -
"Meilensteine".  In terms of energy, conception and presentation of
musical ideas, they could be compared to Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
Although the album is heavy on keyboards, the texture is more symphonic
than ELP's music and is definitely not derivative.

The members of the band were Mathias Braun, Mathias Offel and Michael Braun.
Does anyone know anything more about the band?  Did they release other
albums or CD's?

All lyrics are in German.  Would that stop anyone from fully appreciating
the album's worth?

Steve Sycamore                   "Unaufhoerlich ...  Unbeschreiblich ...
                                  Wunderbar" - Eden's Taste
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive