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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: Problems with 0.98 and serial ports
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:13:23 GMT

   From: n217cg@tamuts.tamu.edu (Scott Taylor)
   Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:05:25 GMT

   I am having the same problem.  I upgraded from 0.96c pl2 to 0.98
   (with SCSI), and now during bootup the serial code doesn't report
   my internal modem (Zoom somthing-or-other, 2400 baud, IRQ 5, 
   port 0x3e8)..... maybe some of the more refined 
   serial port detection code in 0.98 isn't fooled by the modem's
   serial chip (it's not a regular UART; it used to get reported as
   a 16450).  

Yup, that sounds like it.  The new code uses the loop-back device to
make sure that there's really a UART at that location (as opposed to a
SCSI controller ---- which turns out to be a problem since there is a
port conflict between the Accent Async board and Ultrastor SCSI
adaptors.  Fortunately, (once a minor bug was fixed) the serial driver
can figure out that there really isn't a UART there and not screw
anything up.

It soudns like the Zoom internal modem doesn't do a good enough
emulation of a National Semiconductor UART, so that the loopback test
failed.  Except for the fact that no startup message is printed, it
shouldn't cause any harm, though.

					- Ted
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Tidbit on tex vs. word processor war
Date: 29 Sep 1992 16:26:46 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

I was having an email conversation with someone on this and
I pointed to books like "Numerical Recipes" as examples of
the truly professional quality of output which TeX can attain.

He pointed to things like the Red Book as things his paradigm
could do.

I just looked it up and the Red Book was produced using Scribe :-)
Thats no GUI "application package" -- it's as close to TeX as you can
get.  One up for offline typesetting ;-)

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: liljeber@hydra.Helsinki.FI (Mika Liljeberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help needed getting tcsh going
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:21:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Helsinki, Finland

In article <1ad3orINN5o7@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> gbh@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Da Hubster!!!) wrote:
> 
> 
> I really hope this isn't as stupid as a question that I think
> it is...
> 
> I can't get tcsh to run because it is missing a file called
> 
> 
>   libc.so.4
> 
> 
> Where is this file...
> 
> 
> and no, it is not missplaced on my hard drive 
> so no flames please!!!
> 
> I am referring to a FTP site...

As the README.linux file states, you need at least jump library 4.x
to run tcsh. Ftp it from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/GCC/jump41.tar.
You should also consider getting the rest of gcc 2.2.2d7.

> 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hosier@unlinfo.unl.edu (aaron hosier)
Subject: compiling .98 and tcp
Summary: what I did to compile
Keywords: 0.98,tcp
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:29:55 GMT

I tried compiling  0.98 like everybody else and didn't have the TCP
stuff startup at boot time.  A closer look at the Net Makefile shows
that there are actually three "#'s" that have to be removed in order
for it to compile.  The first two were the two Linus points out.  The
third was where the .o's were linked together.  It had a # before the
tcp/tcp.o which kept it from being linked in.  I removed this and
everything worked fine.  I jumped from 0.97pl2 to 0.98 with no problem.
The TCP stuff works as good and sometimes better than before.  I'm still
having some problems with it, but it is strictly related to the tcp code
and the network that I am working on.  

Aaron Hosier
 
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:22:22 GMT
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet

Excuse me, but could you please take this discussion (how great the
Aimga is) off comp.os.linux?  It doesn't seem to be related to linux at
all, and people have been complaining about the volume of the newsgroup.

Thanks!

						- Ted

P.S.  Why comp.os.linux.advocacy?  I could think of a much better group
--- alt.religion.computers.  :-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "I.P.Morris" <I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk>
Subject: Where is X11V2.0?
Reply-To: I.P.Morris@southampton.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:39:49 GMT

This is probably a very silly question.

The thing is i can't find X11V2.0. I have FTP'd around nic.funet.fi, tsx-11,
mcc and i cant seem to find it.

I would prefer somewhere in europe since the transatlantic link seems to be
quite slow to here!!!

Oh well, Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ingres: syserr
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:56:51 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


 i compiled and installed ingres. then (logged in as ingres) when i
    demodb tst
 it says:   please wait  
   then dies with

 SYSERR      lock write fail
 
looking in ./data/base/tst i find some files have been installed.
   thomas
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: 0.98 and serial ports, IRQs
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:47:22 GMT

   From: james@netcom.com (James L. Paul)
   Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:03:57 GMT

   I noticed in 0.97.6 and above (0.98) that serial has been extensively
   changed. I'd like to add up to 8 more ports. What is my best option for
   doing this?

   1. Can I add more 2-port cards and share IRQs? How do I set this up?

Not without some really serious hardware hacking.  The general answer is
"no".   See below to question #5....

   2. Can I add 2 AST Fourport cards to get a total of 12 ports? How?

Yes; the AST FourPort card can live at two different addresses,
0x1a0-1bf and 0x2a0-2bf.  I currently have 10 serial ports on my system
(COM1+COM2, and two AST Fourport cards.)

   3. Can I get 4 or 8 port cards other than the AST? Which cards work?

The Accent Async board works as well; that gives you two ports at COM1
and COM2, and two other ports which are supported by the Linux serial
driver. 

It probably isn't hard to get other cards to work, but you would need to
have the technical specs on how they work.  If you like, send them to me
and if it's not too hard, I'll look into trying to make them work.  If
you really want to see a particular card supported, sending me a sample
of the board itself will make it much more likely that I will try to
support it.  :-)

   4. What issues are involved with sharing IRQs between ports on a board?

Your board has to support it; if it doesn't, you're screwed.

   5. What issues are involved with sharing IRQs across boards?

In general, you can't, unless you do some hardware hacking; this
involves cutting the trace to the IRQ lines, running the IRQ line from
both boards to a separate prototype board where you wire in an OR
gate....  you get the idea.  Not an easy thing to do.

There is also rumored to be a black magic solution involving analog
devices which you put into a digital circuit, but I'm sure it's got to
be outside the TTL specs; I don't know much more about it.

   6. If I set 2 ports to the same IRQ, do they also share the COM address.

You don't want to do this; if you do, both ports will conflict with each
other and both will not work.  Either trying to setting both ports to
use the same IRQ or use the same COM address will cause you to lose.
The only exception is on multi-port boards which are *designed* to allow
ports on that card to share a single IRQ, such as the AST Fourport card.

							- Ted


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: To: who are porting stuffs using g++
Keywords: g++, InterView, groff
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 23:34:33 GMT

Hi,

If you are porting stuffs to Linux using g++, like groff, InterView
and etc, please join the GCC channel on the Linux mailing list. I am
going to make a few releases of alpha gcc 2.3, g++ in which fixes
lots of bugs.

H.J.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mrex@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Martin Rex)
Subject: Some tty-problems -- are these bugs?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 12:47:31 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

When I hit the caps-lock key (accidentally) at the "login"-prompt,
then the stty-settings for lower to uppercase conversion are toggled,
and all succeding output is all uppercase (both olcuc and ilcuc);
it cannot be toggled again with caps-lock.

Some system utilities (Sorry I don't remember exactly which ones),
scramble the stty settings when they fail and end with an error message,
usually the echo ist turned off, and the newline doesn't work anymore,
also when displaying a textfile on the screen with more, more always
quits after a screenful of text automatically. (This one happened in
an xterm, so I compared the stty settings with those of a fresh xterm,
and I saw that several settings had been switched. Switching all
settings back to normal with an stty command, the normal behaviour
was restored.
Note that "stty sane" restored the echo and linefeed behaviour,
but it didn't fix the setting, which made more quit automatically
after a screenful of text.

This might be a problem in the handling of the terminal by some
programs depending on how they fiddle with the settings,
termio termios sgttyb ..., but I have not yet learned to program
(the real thing -- not just occasional hacking and porting/adjusting)
under Unix, so I don't know where the problem is.
(I having tons of trouble with termio on IBM AIX 1.2 (and 3.2),
 which causes problems in several programs ... tin, bash, ...)

Then I would like to get console output under X somehow (like it works
on other workstations from Sun, HP, DEC, ...) is that possible ?

And at last: I played with the /dev/console -devicefile, and noticed,
that when /dev/console is a hardlink to tty1, you're no longer
able to login on tty1 as root (it's considered insecure ...),
while this works when /dev/console is another device-entry for tty1,
(mknod /dev/console 4 1 ).  Maybe it's because of the link count in
tty1, that getty doesn't like root anymore on tty1 then ?

Help and advice from Linux/Unix gurus would be greatly appreciated. :)

-Martin

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From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:11:00 -0800

 >>This months BYTE screams out asking "Is UNIX dead?".

 > This bothered me a lot.

 >> A closer scrutiny of the article proved it's just the otherwise.

 > Interesting. I didn't buy Byte this month, partly
 > because of the crap on
 > the cover.  As such, I wasn't aware of the contents of
 > the article.

Most mags pup their advertizers products, and do not push shareware,
freeware, PD or other software that do not advertize in the mag.

Not even mentioning Linux in the article was the last straw for me, I
was thinking about droping my subscription, and that did it for me!

I no longer subscribe to BYTE, and do not reccomend it to others
anymore.

 * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:47:29 GMT

With all this talk about TeX, I'd be interested in playng with it.  Where
can it be found?  I poked around in ftp.uu.net, but didn't find it...
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Anon uucp site for Linux?
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 14:07:34 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

Can anyone suggest a good anon uucp site that carries up-to-date Linux stuff?
I don't have access to ftp (my news feed is a uucp connection), and ftpmail is
a pain.  I'd like to have someplace I can get stuff from when I'm working on
the system, right then and there (or in a shorter time than waiting for a
ftpmail request to come back).  TIA



|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin)
Subject: Re: No /usr/local please (Re: Help: Need TeX/LaTeX linked with jump table 4.1)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 01:39:47 GMT

In article <KREJ.92Sep21120946@erbiumx.electrum.kth.se> krej@electrum.kth.se (Kristian Ejvind) writes:
>In article <1992Sep20.104505.6871@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>
>   I have a suggestion. We drop /usr/local for those
>   essential stuffs, like TeX, groff, ...... I'd like
>   to see those good stuffs be the part of standard
>   Linux distribution.

Sigh... Many Linux users came from DOS and Linux seems to be MessDossified.

>Linux should be as unix as possible! Linux should be as standard as possible, 
>no messing around with unstandard locations of programs. TeX always resides
>at /usr/local and this is where it will be in the future. It is of course always
>possible for anyone who don' like local to move everything in /usr/local to /usr
>and recofigure everything ( and later realize that a link from /usr/ to /usr/local
>wouldn't be so bad :-). 
>  As for standard distribution : A program can be in the distrubution even if
>it's in /usr/local !

RIGHT ! RIGHT !

At least TeX, groff, ...etc and  linux distribution should be in
different partitions. You may mount them at any point as you wish,
but /usr/local is the best and standard unix way.

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From: simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: emacs question (ispell)
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:36:30 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

In article <1a26o4INNlha@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bx516@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Victor Charles Zandy) writes:
> 
> Has anyone managed to compile and install and use ispell (any version) for
> emacs under linux?  I got the sources and am having problems compiling (i.e.
> I don't understand what needs to be changed about the makefile and config file,
> when I compile it as it stands, I get errors, I don't know where to obtain and
> where to install dictionaries).  I'm pretty interested in making linux my
> full time os; but to do that I need to get Ispell running so that I can do
> a reasonable job on all these papers I need to write this semester.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any offerings,
> Victor Zandy
> vzandy@occs.cs.oberlin.edu

I have Ispell 2.0.02 installed and working under emacs.  I did have
a couple of minor compile errors (I forgotten what they were), but
it compiled fairly easily.

I am now trying to locate the source for Ispell 3.0 (binary included in
the GCC 2.2.2d/Jump 4.1 release).  If I cann't locate the 3.0 sources
I'll recompile 2.0.02 and let you know what I needed to change.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ringgold@netcom.com (Thomas Essex)
Subject: Re: CMS Jumbo tape drives
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:08:08 GMT

colbert@astro.umd.edu (Edward J.M. Colbert) writes:
: If Linux has a problem interfacing with the CMS Jumbo tape drives because
: of the floppy-driver interface, then how about a program that runs from
: DOS that read the Linux filesytem?  Of course it means that you still have
: have DOS around (although you could run from floppy), but at least you 
: could USE the tape drive.
: 
: Ed


  That sounds like a real good idea. That way you could do a FULL system backup,
and it would make restores really easy. You wouldn't even need to build a basic
system to run the restore from, just build the file systems, and the dump the 
data back onto them.

--
ringgold@netcom.com

Motto: PFP!!!  ;)
-- 

ringgold@netcom.com

Motto: PFP!!!  ;)
From: phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:09:27 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <3725@eastman.UUCP>, by talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley):
> In article <bibhas.717685421@femto.engr.mun.ca> bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya) writes:
>>This months BYTE screams out asking "Is UNIX dead?".
> 
> This bothered me a lot.

    the article turn out to be much in favour of unix.
--
Dave.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP X11v2.0 + tcp/ip + 0.98
From: bell2@lincoln.ac.nz
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:42:51 +1200

Hi,

    I've been using linux 0.96c for a while and want to upgrade to either
    0.97pl6 or 0.98  (Not to many problems there).

    I have a borrowed 386/33 with a trident 8900c 1Mb svga and I'm trying to
    get X11 running,  I've downloaded X11v2.0 from tsx-11.mit.edu I can read
    xbin2.0.TZ#1 but not xbin2.0.TZ#2 at this stage I'm assuming its me thats
    getting things stuffed up could some advise me of the correct way to untar
    this??  I've been using tar for some time but this has me beat :-{

    I have had trouble with .98 so far I can only get this to boot to /dev/fd0
    I haven't been able to compile it myself from source yet??  (still working
    on that one).

    ultimately I would like to have X11 & tcp/ip running + ftp so that I can
    get Linux Xterminals running apps on my VAXstation,  or vice versa!! :-) :-)


    any help appreciated,
 
            Steve...

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Email: S.Bell@ono.lincoln.ac.nz
From: hellers@cs.wisc.edu (Joe Hellerstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Local bus
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:00:00 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.

In article <1992Sep30.181053.3312@cs.hw.ac.uk> scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn) writes:

>   Hi,
>
>   Could someone tell me if local bus motherboards work OK with linux?
>   Also, what would be better - 33Mhz 486 local bus motherboard
>			      - 50 Mhz 486 without local bus
>

I'm running linux on a 486/33 local bus (32-bit video & IDE/floppy
controller) made by HD systems.  It works fine.


>   What sort of performance gains would I get in X with a local bus vidio
>   card or hard drive controller?

Well, video and disk access will be faster (surprise, surprise.)  If
you do lots of compute-bound tasks, you won't notice any speedup.  If
you do a typical mix of activities, you will find significant speedup.
I'd go with the slower chip and local bus (in fact I did...), since a
lot of the average user's time in spent in disk access and display.

Joe Hellerstein
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mtjachim@mtu.edu (Mr. M. T. Jachimstal)
Subject: SLS v0.96 and passwd
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:14:48 GMT


I just recently installed the SLS release after having been 
very impressed by Linux. The only problem is that only root can
change passwords. Any other user receives the error: "Can't
open password file." after the new password is retyped and it
attempts to change the entry in /etc/passwd.

I've tried setting permisions on /etc/passwd and also the setuid
bit on passwd itself (chmod 4777). 

Any ideas what the problem is or how to solve it?

Thanks,
Matthew
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From: lg2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liam David Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: TCP/IP Token Ring drivers?
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:51:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UenvjKK00WB68YwmM0
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but is there any possibility a
driver could be written for Linux to allow ftp, telnet, etc. over a
token ring network?  If I were told it were at all practical, I might
attempt it as a learning exercise in device drivers and/or networking; I
know nothing about either at this point.

I'd be glad to hear any suggestions, explanations, or pointers.

Thanks a bunch.
Liam Gray
lg2g@andrew.cmu.edu
From: apm233m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ed in linux
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:36:51 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <717630411snx@prism.demon.co.uk>, david@prism.demon.co.uk (David Metcalfe) writes:
> 
< stuff deleted >
> 
> Has any one managed to compile ed.c from tsx-11 so that it works
> correctly?  It contains 4 lines with illegal syntax along the lines
> of
> 
> map[c >> 3] &= ^(1 << (c & 0x07));
> 
> The ^ operator is a binary operator not a unary one in all compilers
> I have come across.  Unfortunately, I haven't been able to produce a
> correctly working ed after converting these lines to what I thought
> was correct code.
> 
> Can anyone post patches or place a working binary on tsx-11.
> 
-- 
I posted patches to the Bug Report (I forget the exact title just now)
people a few weeks ago. I have no idea where the patches went after that.
When I get back to my Linux machine I will see if I can find them again
and perhaps post them here (any other suggestions?).
---------------
Bill Metzenthen
Mathematics Department
Monash University
Australia
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux