HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Amphetamines in Gulf War (was Re: Vikings etc.)
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:55:18 GMT

In article <1447@ceylon.gte.com>, chf0@newshost (Curtis Fennell) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.162011.21930@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>|> Well, stimulants like amphetamines were used by U.S. pilots in the war
>|> - oops, conflict - against Iraq. 
>
>Would you document this, please? Because I sincerely doubt that this
>was a regular occurrence.

Damn, I can't find the article and the alt.drugs archive is not
operational.  but I think it was posted in alt.drugs or
talk.politics.drugs and was a report on U.S. mainstream media
reporting on how doctors prescribed amphetamines to U.S. pilots in the
Gulf War.  And

stop the press, here it is:

--------------------
From: lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay - IWTFM)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Air Force uses uppers ...
Date: 21 Apr 92 16:31:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.

In article <s3gagINN43o@network.ucsd.edu> erwin@bend.ucsd.edu (Sean Erwin) writes:
> 	TACOMA, Wash. (UPI) -- Air Force pilots who flew bombing missions over
> Iraq during the Persian Gulf War reportedly were given ``speed'' to keep
> them alert and sedatives to help them sleep, it was reported Thursday.


Oh, I get it.  Its not "The War On Drugs,"  its:

The War.  On Drugs.


Silly me.
--------------------

still couldn't find the original article, but you can follow the reference.

>|> Other drugs such as alcohol,
>|> cannabis and opiates apparently are widely available on bases, though
>|> admittedly for recreational purposes rather than "rage" purposes.
>
>Alcohol is widely available, but cannabis and opiates are not (at
>least, not any more).

Says who?  I remember reading about at least one and vaguely about
several storries in mainstream media about how widespread drug use is
in U.S. military bases abroad, like in Europe.  Now, it might not be
necessarily provided by the base and legal like alcohol, but that
doesn't make it nonexistent.

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Dragnet
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:55:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.111837@tiger1.prime.com> gavin@tiger1.prime.com (Dave Gavin) writes:
>ever watch dragnet....that seems to be where the ptfa gets all
>of its info on the killer weed...

No kidding.  One of the most "sensational" episodes (and one of my personal
faves for its sheer guffaw value) is the story about the parents who get
stoned on pot and let the baby drown in the bathtub becuase they were stoned
and forgot about him/her.

Of course, these were fine, upstanding people until the evil drug with roots
in Hell caused them to do this.  And of course the implication is that this
is the always the type of thing that will result if people smoke pot.  This
is almost a direct parallel of the PDFA ad showing a surgeon getting high on
pot while preparing for surgery.

Give...me...a...break!

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

There is something fascinating about science.  One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
		-- Mark Twain
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From: amex@nsq.uucp (Toronto)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Blotter Size.
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: amex@nsq.uucp (Toronto)
Organization: NSQ

I recently was given the oportunity to try my first experience with acid.
 
What I expected wasn't what I got (no surprises eh?)
 
What is the average (expected) size of a blotter hit?  What I got was a
tiny tiny yellow piece of paper... less than a quarter inch. What I
experienced was VERY mild... no eyes open images... just a bunch of
wild dreams when I closed my eyes and concentrated.

Was this a qaurter hit or what?

Jeff


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cato@proxxi.se (Christopher Cato)
Subject: Nature trips??
Organization: proxxi
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:37:05 GMT

Can <anyone> tell me about different nature drugs, like guarana e.t.c ??
Please.....



-- 
	       /Christopher Cato/
	      /****************/
	     / cato`proxxi.se /
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Subject: Re: I sent my missive off to Clinton ...
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:18:22 GMT

"Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

>I sent off my message to the Clinton people.  About half of it was
>culled from the letter I sent to Tsongas back when he was a 
>candidate.  It ran to about 2000 words.  I received a message 
>back from the person who monitors the e-mail that my letter was
>being forwarded to the position team.  I followed up by requesting
>that they give me some kind of response on the points I raised.
>
>When I get something back -- if I get something back, I will post.

maybe post a copy of your letter, Paul?  some of us may find it
inspiring and/or useful as a model for letters we might want to 
write to our public servants.  thanks in advance.

>paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

						-- dave

-- 
 /'''   The Machman     machman@milton.u.washington.edu    david c carroll
 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: "Cain's 100", "Frank Miller" -- the perils of channel-grazing ...
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:23:53 GMT


Another blackmarket with violence comparable to illegal drugs is game
animals. See:

     Reisner, Marc.
     Game wars : the undercover pursuit of wildlife poachers / Marc
Reisner. New York : Viking, 1991.
     294 p. ; 25 cm.
     ISBN  0670814865
       1. Hall, Dave.   2. United States Fish and Wildlife--Officials
and employees--Biography.   3. Undercover wildlife agents--United States--
Biography.   4. Wildlife conservation--United States.  I. Title.
     ocm22-310810


- Carl

--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (I G Barrett)
Subject: Re: Holland Drug Classifications
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:26:18 GMT

Alcohol also tastes incredibly foul; this doesn't stop people from consuming
it in large quantities on a regular basis!  If you want to take something taste
is not going to stand in your way!


Swan Wulfgur			I turned silences and nights into words.
				What was unutterable, I wrote down.
brrian04@uctvax.uct.ac.za	I made the whirling world stand still.
ibarrett@zaphod.cs.uct.ac.za		- Arthur Rimbaud
						A Season in Hell

				Swans fly silently to the burning sky.


	Alcohol is a Drug	Caffeine is a Drug 	Nicotine is a Drug

				Are you Anti-Drugs?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: MDMA
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:42:49 GMT

In article <MedLnXS00Vp8I4qEQA@andrew.cmu.edu> Alexander Samuel McDiarmid <am2o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>find the previousnote for context.
>
>	I understand (first hand accounts) that it is lots of fun (say more
>than coke), however the side effect is altzheimers disease (sp?, i can't
>remember)

MDMA does not cause Alzheimer's disease.  MDMA selectively damages axons
on serotonin neurons.  This damage has no known ramifications and the
neurons appear to recover.  Whether this "neurotoxicity" is cause
for concern remains an open question.

   --Matt Baggott


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From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:51:15 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

In article <1992Aug30.144328.20385@athena.mit.edu> wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes:
 > In article <1992Aug27.221302.13615@amhux2.amherst.edu>, 
 > pfcouvar@amhux1.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares) said:
 > 
 > > To tell the truth, I had thought about it, but decided it would
 > > weaken the humor to say specifically that I was kidding at the end.
 > > I didn't think anyone could miss it. Oh well, next time... :)
 > 
 > My condolences on learning the hard way one of the Prime Truths of
 > the Net.. there is *no* idea or opinion so stupid/warped/lunatic/
 > assholic/etc. that it can't pass for something that was posted in all
 > seriousness by a net.idiot rather than a joke by a net.humorist.
 > 
Serious condoleances of course.  But learn that whatever is posted, be
it in jest or seriously, it has been posted before both in jest and
seriously.
-- 
dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj  amsterdam, nederland
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn  amsterdam, nederland
dik@cwi.nl
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dl@thumper.bellcore.com (Daniel Liebster)
Subject: Drug Policy Foundation reports on Bush
Reply-To: dl@thumper.bellcore.com (Daniel Liebster)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 23:22:20 GMT

r w AM-DrugWar-Bush     09-03 0372
^AM-Drug War-Bush,390<
^Much Money; Few Results In Drug War, Group Says<
^By PETE YOST=
^Associated Press Writer=
	   WASHINGTON (AP) _ The Bush administration has spent $45.2
billion in the war on drugs, but has little to show for it, a
private group concluded Thursday.
	   The White House hasn't focused on the demand side of the drug
problem, as it said it would, and has been unable to sustain a
sharp downward trend in drug use, the Drug Policy Foundation said
in a report, ``The Bush Drug War Record.'' It found that more than
70 percent of the money spent by the Bush administration has been
on law enforcement.
	   President Bush's declared war on drugs three years ago was
``deceptive'' and Bush is continuing the deception by declaring
victory, said foundation president Arnold S. Trebach.
	   Illegal drug use declined 39 percent between 1985 and 1988, but
the rate slowed to 15 percent between 1988 and 1991, said the
report.
	   An administration policy planner rejected the criticism, saying
the ``turnaround in drug use has been nothing short of amazing.''
	   The number of drug users has dropped by two-thirds since its
peak of 25 million in the 1980s, said Bruce Carnes, director of
planning and budget at the White House Office of National Drug
Control Policy.
	   Carnes said the downward trend in rates of drug use has slowed,
but not leveled off and that ``we've said from the git-go that
rates would slow'' because many of the remaining drug users are
hard-core addicts.
	   Bush told the Republican National Convention last month that
cocaine use has fallen 60 percent among young people.
	   That figure is ``highly misleading,'' said the private group's
report.
	   The drop was a decline in self-reported regular cocaine use by
adolescents ages 12 to 17 _ from 1.1 percent of respondents to 0.4
percent. That's a reduction ``from a very small percentage to an
extremely small percentage,'' said the report.
	   Carnes said such criticism is unfair and that it reflects the
views of Trebach, who Carnes described as ``a legalizer, he
despises people engaged in law enforcement.''
	   The foundation favors treating the drug problem primarily as a
public health problem, not a criminal justice problem.
	   AP-DS-09-03-92 1627EDT<
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,sci.med
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: Smoking as a Drug Delivery System
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:43:38 GMT

[ relative health hazards of smoking vs. other drug delivery systems
for nicotine ]

>impression that most health hazards associated  with cigarrettes come
>from the tars in the smoke. I read once that one drop of nicotine
>applied to the skin of a rabbit would kill it. What are the long term
>health hazards of nicotine (as opposed to cigarrete smoke) injestion?

Injestion?  Do you mean ingestion or injection?  In any case, two less
hazardous delivery systems for nicotine in use at least here are skin
patches and chewing gum.  Apparently in USA there was some other kind
of delivery system thought, but the idea was dropped because of
marketing reasons (something like the drug delivery system looking too
much like a drug delivery system - imagine that!)

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: Legal growing in San Francisco (please confirm)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 02:52:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <BtKJFq.Cy@acsu.buffalo.edu> v113mg59@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ronald T Coslick Jr) writes:
>I've heard a _rumor_ that an individual may now legally grow 3
>cannabis plants for personal consumption in San Francisco.  Can
>anyone confirm this?

Don't we wish.  The SF Board of Supervisors has voted to recommend
that marijuana be legalized for medicinal purposes, but this is
purely an expression of civic opinion.

I conjecture that when the political climate changes SF would be
the first to legalize and that it would take the form of a personal
cultivation exception, but for now we're still under the federal
hammer like everyone else.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: The Biggest Cause of Street Crime
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:26:10 GMT

In article <5ygn4gd.feustel@netcom.com>, feustel@netcom.com (David
Feustel) writes:
|>The
|>relatively benign effects of currently illegal drugs and the
|>political motivation  behind the history of the War on Drugs
|>is thoroughly  documented from  mostly government sources in
|>Richard  Miller's   book  The   Case  for  Legalizing  Drugs
|>(Praeger,1991). More  people die in the U.S. every year from
|>medical malpractice  than die  from either gunshot wounds or
|>from consumption of currently illegal drugs. Maybe we should
|>outlaw the practice of medicine.

Ah, but this neglects one major fact.  It's ok for a doctor to
treat someone for illness but it's not really ok to get intoxicated
on any substance.  Getting intoxicated doesn't go along
with Puritan ideology.  Geez, we're lucky alcohol is legal!!, but
I hope this will stay legal since I like a drink every now and again.
It is pretty ridiculus that other drugs are illegal when such 
destructive drugs as alcohol and tobacco are as easy to get as a
condom to have sex with.  Personally I find sex pretty intoxicating, 
but I think sex for fun is also not part of the Puritan ethic.  Hmmm,
maybe those Puritans will move again.  One can only hope!

|>-- 
|>Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
|> 
|>( New .sig under construction. Watch this space! )
                                 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maurice LaBiche (Mo.L.)         |   labiche@bnr.ca
Bell Northern Research          |   Part of Northern Telecom 
Richardson, Texas               |   i'm really in Texas
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No opinions herein expressed have anything to do with the opinions 
of Bell Northern Research or Northern Telecom or CIA or NSA ...
These statements are mine and mine alone, well i guess my wife 
agrees with some of them?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jsuttor@netcom.com (Jeff Suttor)
Subject: Cite:  Beyond the brain
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:37:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

     Author:  Grof, Stanislav, 1931-                                   
      Title:  Beyond the brain : birth, death, and transcendence in    
                psychotherapy / Stanislav Grof.                        
                                                                       
  Published:  Albany, N.Y. : State University of New York Press, c1985.
Description:  xviii, 466 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.                            
     Series:  SUNY series in transpersonal and humanistic psychology   
                                                                       
 Subject(s):  Psychotherapy.  (MeSH)                                   
              Unconscious (Psychology).  (MeSH)                        
              Consciousness.  (MeSH)                                   
              Parapsychology.  (MeSH)                                  
      Notes:  Includes index.                                          
              Bibliography: p. {445}-454.
From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Strychnine!  It's all true!
Keywords: codeine
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:57:35 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.


    In conversation the other night I was told that 'codeine' is an 'over
    the counter' drug in Canada. I suspect that this was in referance to
    some sort of codeine and aspirin. If there's someone who could clearify
    this for me and, if true, tell me in what province(s)/stores I'd
    appreciate it if they'd drop me a note via e-mail at
    whittemore@wfodev.enet.dec.com

--
jdw%sniff.wfo.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com      |
whittemore@wfodev.enet.dec.com            |    The opinions expressed herein are
"I've got thirteen channels of SHIT       |    mine alone and in no way reflect
 on the T.V. to chose from" - Pink Floyd  |
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Timothy Leary on Comedy Central
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:43:07 GMT

> If you haven't seen it yet, there's a really *great* commercial
> appearing on Comedy Central with Timothy Leary in it....It shows Leary
> on, like, a hill or something, in a jacket, and the camera circles
> around him as the famous Beatles song about him plays in the
> background.... 

	Sorry to follow up with something that has nothing to do with the
subject at hand (drugs; well, not directly anyway), but credit for the song
"Timothy Leary" belongs to the Moody Blues, not the Beatles.  Of course, I
could be wrong.  This wouldn't be the first remake in history.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From:  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm Randolph Franklin)
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:07:03 GMT


In article <=0an3_r.feustel@netcom.com> on Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:59:46 GMT,
feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:

  > The Fort Wayne, IN.  City Council is voting tonight on an ordinance
  > providing for fines to be levied against landlords who do not evict
  > tenants after the city sends the landlord a letter asserting that drugs
  > are being sold in said tenants' apartment. The amount of the proposed
  > fines is to range from $500 to $2500/day.

If I remember right, the Buffalo NY version of this calls for
confiscation of the building after 2 warnings to the landlord about
tenants charged with drug offenses.  I'm not positive about the "2" or
the "charged" but am positive about the "confiscation" and about there
being nothing requiring prior conviction of the tenant.

-- 
Wm. Randolph Franklin,  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu, (518) 276-6077;  Fax: -6261
ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180 USA
From: jkirby@UB.D.UMN.EDU (Just Kirby)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Effadrine hydrochloride
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:52:20 GMT

Hey,

A few days ago, I pruchased (From Super America, no less) a bottle of
effadrine hydrochloride.  It is sold as an asthma treatmen (bronciodialator)
but I've been using it as a stimulant (tho it has cleadr up my breathing
remakably).  It actually looks like white cross, you know, the "speed" you
used to buy in highschool, and has similar effects;  hair tinglies and all.

Does anyone know anything about the neuro-toxicity of the stuff?  How about
it's long term effects?  Lee the Bastard told me that it causes liver
problems over the long term, but he's a bastard and i don't know if I believe
him.

Also, could somebody crosspost this to alt.drugs?  I don't have post access
yet, but I should in a week or two.
| / | |~~\ |~~\ \ /     ______is_________________________jkirby@ub.d.umn.edu
|(  | |__/ |--<  |  	If the rivers run dry baby how will you feel?
| \ | |  \ |__/  |      			-- Robert Plant

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 01:30:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>> The Fort Wayne, IN.  City Council is voting tonight on an ordinance
>> providing for fines to be levied against landlords who do not evict
>> tenants after the city sends the landlord a letter asserting that drugs
>> are being sold in said tenants' apartment.  The amount of the proposed
>> fines is to range from $500 to $2500/day.
>
>The obvious question: if the city knows that drugs are being sold, why
>they hell don't they get rid with the dealer instead of making a civilian
>do it?

Can you say "conscription"?

Fifty years ago, the income tax, jewel of the "progressive" movement,
was escalated to require employers to withhold taxes from employees'
paychecks--a Temporary Wartime Measure, you know.  You don't like
it when landlords are conscripted into being narcs?  Tough.  The precedent
was set when employers were conscripted into being tax collectors.

Thank you, Progressive Movement.


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
---------------------------+----------------------------------------
  atfurman@cup.portal.sig  |   (800)682-1776 for more information
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From: edwards@ee.fit.edu (John Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Availability of chlorpromazine and hypodermic dart guns?
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:13:53 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.

In <1992Aug18.021210.23920@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

>reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:

>>This got me thinking (it does happen occasionally).  Why couldn't
>>someone design a drug-adminsitering weapon for self-defense? think

Why not consider alternatives to drugs.

a 3 second setting epoxy bomb, dropped at an assailant's feet could
imobilize him, allowing you to flee at leisure  (assuming he doesn't
have a projectile weapon)

It protected the Roadrunner from Wiley Cyote, didn't it!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs