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From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XView and OpenWindows ports
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:29:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada

Date: 25 Jul 92 04:08:07 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul25.040807.13830@sq.sq.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.x

[Updated list enclosed...]

I am compiling a list of all XView ports and OpenWindows ports, whether
free, ftp'able or commercial.

Ideally, I'd like to see a repository of binary libs, ports, notes, etc.,
somewhere on the Internet.  Any offers?

If you mail me details I'll make it a regular alt.toolkits.xview posting,
and perhaps list them in the comp.windows.open-look FAQ.

I do not know of any OpenWindows 3 ports apart from the Sun SPARC binary.
Please tell me there are more!  Presumably all of these would be available
commercially, since there are royalties involved.

I am not bothering to mention olvwm or olwm ports, as there are probably too
many to count by now!  I will list them only if they are available by ftp.

Here is my current list...

OpenWindows 3 Ports
    Sun: SPARC, SunOS 4.1
    Sun: SPARC, Solaris 2 (actually 3.0.1?)
    others: none so far...

There are said (by Sun) to be over 35 ports of OpenWindows either
available now or in progress.  Contact Anthony Flynn at Open Vistas
International (anthony@ovi.com) for more information.
There was said to have been a new announcement about OpenWindows 3 source
availability this month, but I didn't see it if there was.


XView 3 ports

What: XView 3
System: A/UX
Porter: lmj@uncompaghre.jax.org (Lou Jones)
Ftp: encyclo.jax.org
Notes:
	The libraries and utilities (olwm, cmdtool, etc) are available for
	anonymous ftp from encyclo.jax.org. I used gcc 2.1 to compile the
	sources. If there is enough interest, I can make the diffs
	available.

What: XView 2
System: Stellar GS100 (Stardent 1000) and Stardent 1500 & 3000
Porter: arvai@scripps.edu (Andy Arvai)
Ftp: perutz.scripps.edu (137.131.152.27) in the pub/xview directory
Notes:
	Stardent is now Kubota Pacific (KPC)

What: XView 3
System: DECStation/Ultrix
Porter: dscott@ittc.wec.com (Dave Scott)

What: XView 3
System: Sun 3
System: SysVR4/i386
Porter: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)
Ftp: suphys.physics.su.oz.au  /Esix_4/x11r5 hierarchy
Notes:
	His patches were for Esix 4.0.3 but they should work on DELL, ISC and
	Intel SVR4 with no worries

What: XView 3
System: HP9000/300 series
Porter: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Notes:
	`we've just got a 720 so I'll have a go at that soonish now'
	[12 Jun 92]


Please tell me about _your_ ports :-)

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  latest released version: 1.10; 1.12 coming in August probably
  ftp: ftp.cs.toronto.edu in directory: pub
From: kriss@frec.bull.fr (C.Mollard@frec.bull.fr)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: WCL on IBM RS6000
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:57:43 GMT
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Organization: Bull S.A. Echirolles

Date: 24 Jul 92 11:00:57 GMT
Message-Id: <474@vercors.frec.bull.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,bull.sys.aix,bull.gui,comp.unix.aix


I like to know if somebody has successfully ported Wcl 1.4 (or later) on an IBM RS6000
(AIX 3.2 with AIX Window) or if somebody have a way to do it right.

Any pointer is welcome.

Many thanks,


Christian.


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From: feit@era.com (Mark Feit)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: HELP! Need oldX Source
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:39:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:36:41 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul22.183641.3264@ERA.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Could some kind soul with X source please shar up the source for
liboldX and mail it to me?  I need the following:

	mit/lib/oldX/
	mit/lib/oldX/Imakefile
	mit/lib/oldX/XDelAssoc.c
	mit/lib/oldX/XDraw.c
	mit/lib/oldX/XLookAssoc.c
	mit/lib/oldX/XMakeAssoc.c
	mit/lib/oldX/XDestAssoc.c
	mit/lib/oldX/XCrAssoc.c
	mit/lib/oldX/X10.h

Thanks loads...  I'd get the MIT-1 tape from UUNET, but their system
won't sent it for some reason.

						- Mark

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From: ericr@ssd.intel.com (Eric Richards)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Using xwd to dump menus
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:24:19 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:32:36 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul30.003236.3029@SSD.intel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x

What I do to snap menus is the following:


sleep 5;xsnap -r "400x400+0+0"

Then select the menu and wait a few seconds.  When you're
done with the menu, xsnap should pop up a window containing
a snap of the region starting at 0,0 being 400x400 wide.
Now, if this doesn't contain the correct region, modify the
geometry string after the -r.  Once it contains the menu,
do the following:

xsnap

Now you can select from the menu snap.  This way, you can
select just exactly what you want.  So, the first snap,
with region, is a shotgun approach to get everything.  The
second snap is surgery to get the menu.

xsnap should be on export if you don't already have it.
Very nice program.


ejr
From: rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Twm
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:00:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Human Communication Research Center

Date: 21 Jul 92 16:00:02 GMT
Message-Id: <RJC.92Jul21170002@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Jul18.130934.17668@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, der Mouse (dm) writes:

In article <1992Jul16.135236.14295@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, kierant@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Kieran Turner) writes:

kt> Just a quick query - anybody know if it would be _possible_ to make a
kt> patch for twm that could de-iconify on tty output to an xterm?

dm> It is not.  twm has no opportunity to find out when output to an xterm
dm> occurs.  You'd have to make the patches to xterm, not twm.

If you tell the console xterm to log to a file then output to the
xterm will change the file and so can be seen. This works to drive an
xbiff, for instance.

To open the window, the easiest thing is probably to write a little
shell daemon which checks the size of the log file and uses xse to
send an event to the window when the file gets bigger. The WM can then
be told to open when that event occurs. 

No source hacking and absolutely no redeeming aesthetic value :-).

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From: km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: PEX on OW3
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:55:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

Date: 25 Jul 92 03:03:20 GMT
Message-Id: <9228@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x

We just loaded Sun's OW3 PEX extension, and the first clients we tested
where the X11R5 demos beach_ball and auto_box.

beach_ball did run, although the ball was colored in various
combinations of orange and black. When we run the same client on the
Mit server, it looks like a beachball.

auto_box just crashes the OW3 server, though the same binary runs
correctly on the R5 server.

I was also a bit surprised that Sun's PEX didn't noticeably outperform
the MIT server, even on a GX. I would have thought it would have been
optimized enough to see a difference.

Is this consistant with others experience?

By the way, are there some other PEX demo clients around?

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From: larry@boris.webo.dg.com (Larry Rogers)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Playback
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:11:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Data General, Westboro, Mass.

Date: 18 Jul 92 01:14:57 GMT
Message-Id: <LARRY.92Jul17181457@boris.webo.dg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I was wondering if anyone out there knows of programs that allow you
to play back user input to simulate user interaction without a user.
I have seen programs running at the shows doing this and wondered what
programs were available to do it.  Now I have a need for one.

aTdHvAaNnKcSe


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From: berry@socrates.umd.edu (Joseph Berry)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: WCL on IBM RS6000
Date: 26 Jul 92 12:13:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Maryland University College

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:08:53 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul26.030853.255@socrates.umd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

kriss@frec.bull.fr (C.Mollard@frec.bull.fr) writes:


>I like to know if somebody has successfully ported Wcl 1.4 (or later) on an IBM RS6000
>(AIX 3.2 with AIX Window) or if somebody have a way to do it right.

I'm not sure which version of wcl I'm using (my RS/6000 is 'sleeping' at
this moment) but I think it's the latest (about Dec '90). If I recall, 
there were one or two little problems I had but the software is running
real well -- the only problem is me, learning how to use it. 

Joe

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From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Changing keymappings on a per-application basis
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:14:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:51:11 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul25.105111.7867@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <FMRCO!MSOMMER.92Jul21101441@ampere.uunet.uu.net>, fmrco!msommer@uunet.uu.net (Mark Sommer) writes:

> I would like to run a terminal-based application, requiring special
> keyboard keypad mappings, inside an xterm.

> Is there a way to change the keyboard mappings -- and later restore
> them -- for a single xterm?  I would like to be able to do this from
> a script, but would settle for doing it from a program.  It would
> also be reasonable to dedicate a particular xterm to running this
> application -- as opposed to an arbitrary xterm -- if that makes the
> problem tractable.

You might look at the Translations mechanism for xterm, and load up
your dedicated xterm with lots of translations to get the effect you
want.

As for doing it for an arbitrary xterm, if you don't use translations
for anything else, you may be able to do something useful with keymaps.
I don't know much about them, just that I've seen them mentioned on the
net as something interesting to do with changing translations.

If you're really determined to change the mapping in the xmodmap sense,
you want to either use xmodmap and the sed/awk/whatever script you
hinted at, if you're doing it from a shell script, or the
XGetKeyboardMapping and XChangeKeyboardMapping calls, if you're doing
it from a program.  (Deciding when to do it will probably not be
simple, unless you hack on xterm to do it when it thinks it has focus.)

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X resources
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:36:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Illinois State University

Date: 28 Jul 92 19:02:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul28.190237.10975@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <Bs3vKr.72x@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> pfferrei@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Paulo Ferreira) writes:
>
>Could someone give be a brief explanation of resources.
>
>Specifically, I don't  understand why some resources use a '*' and other
>use '.' as separator characters.
>
[taken from X Windows System User's Guide, Vol. 3, Quercia & O'Reilly]

resource specifications have the following format:

object.subobject[.subobject ...].attribute: value

Using the periods, you have to be familiar with the entire widget
heiarchy in order to specify a particular attribute.  The asterisk 
acts as kind of a wild card, allowing you to skip the intermediate
subobjects.  This is handy if (a) you are not familair with the
widget heiarchy and/or (b) you want the resource file to be valid 
even if the internal widget heiarchy changes.

Thus, object*attribute is shorthand for object.sub1.attribute, and
will still work if a later version of the software is reorganized
to object.sub1.sub2.attribute.  "object" is, of course, the client
program name (e.g. twm).

>Secondly, is the format for .Xresources and .Xdefaults files the same?
>

I believe the basic syntax is the same, although currently I only use
the .Xdefaults file.  Anyone else have a more difinitive answere?

>I read some books that talked about this topic but didn't explain the 
>above well enough for me...
>
Check out Quercia & O'Reilly's book.  It has been a very good reference
for me as I've been getting started (I've only been doing this for a
couple of weeks now).

best of luck!

Jean.
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From: CHIAROTT%IRMIAS.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Please, answer with e-mail addr. (I'm X-user)
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:30:12 GMT
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Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9207211145.AA10625@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:44:37 ITA
Comment: CROSSNET mail via MAILER@MITVMA

Date: 21 July 1992, 13:43:37 ITA
From: CHIAROTT at IRMIAS
To:   xpert    at athena.mit.edu
From: thoth@wave.cis.ufl.edu (Robert Forsman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Non-rectangular bitmaps/setting pixmap background...
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:04:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Church of Homogeneous Foods (Rev. Forsman founder)

Date: 25 Jul 92 13:15:34 GMT
Message-Id: <THOTH.92Jul25091534@wave.cis.ufl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


> > The result?  Setting a full screen clip mask on a 386 takes several
> > seconds.  Clipping a wide polyline to the mask can take several
> > *minutes*.  If it had been implemented as a mask, the results would
> > be about 50% slower than regular operations.  As it is, X clipmasks
> > are essentially useless.
...
> It could also just be that your 386 is a pig.  I've done circular
> clocks on the Sun-3/50 on my desk that are approximately a thousand
> pixels in diameter and it takes a second maybe, but not "several"
> seconds.

  If I remember correctly 386s can compete with 3/80s AT LEAST.  The X
server he has is just a piece of shit.  You bet if Windows or
Presentation Manager (or whatever it's called) were to do a similar
operation, even using the same algorithm, they'd either have run some
serious optimizing compiler or written assembly and it would haul.

  Source code fnord UNIX is often portable (in our reality tunnel) but
it also ends up being a little (or a lot) slow when competing with PC
apps on their home turf (witness some of the ports of gcc).
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From: mirek@unixg.ubc.ca (Miroslaw Piaseczny)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Local Bus X386 configuration - help needed
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:20:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

Date: 29 Jul 92 18:41:16 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul29.184116.11765@unixg.ubc.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Has anyone successfully completed the X386 installation    
for local bus video card? 

I have GA-200 Local Bus ET4000 card (1MB) installed on 50MHz 486,
and Aamazing monitor (Horizontal: 31.5/35KHz,
                      Vertical 60/70 Hz (31.5KHz)
                               56/87 Hz (35KHz).

My problem seems to be in finding the correct clock timings. 
The DOS utility program (dmode.com) shows the following:
       50 57 65 72 80 90 101 130

However, when I run clock.exe, for some reason I get different numbers.
What's even worse, each clock.exe run shows different readings.

I've tried some of them to get the horizontal and vertical timings, 
but couldn't get it right.
 
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Mirek Piaseczny
University of British Columbia
mirek@unixg.ubc.ca
From: bruce@cse.ogi.edu (Bruce Jerrick)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: undefined symbol attempting to build X applications
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:12:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

Date: 25 Jul 92 06:36:21 GMT
Message-Id: <40533@ogicse.ogi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


<Trying to build xgoban-1.0, i get the following symbols undefined from ld:
<   _get_wmShellWidgetClass
<   _get_applicationShellWidgetClass

I don't have a solution, just some input.  This appears to be a SunOS 4.1.2
'ld' problem; it doesn't happen if you use /bin/ld from SunOS 4.1.1 .
It also doesn't happen if you compile with -Bstatic .

When it does happen, the file is executable (normally when 'ld' has
undefined's, the file isn't made executable), and the one example I
tested (xclock) ran OK.

Anxiously awaiting a /bin/ld patch ...

        Bruce Jerrick
        Oregon Graduate Institute
        InterNet:  bruce@cse.ogi.edu
        Voice:     (503) 690-1157
From: web@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Using xwd to dump menus
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:15:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories

Date: 28 Jul 92 22:07:13 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Jul28.220713.20994@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x


In article <1992Jul28.212909.20892@tfs.com>, meir@tfs.com (Meir Zaid) writes:
|>
|>
|>I would like to dump an images of a menu from an application I am
|>writing in order to put it in the documentaion.  The problem is that
|>when I run xwd while the menu is posted I get the error -
|>
|>xwd: error: Can't grab the mouse.
|>

This is from the grab that's done while the mouse is held down?  
Try doing a:  sleep 5; kill -STOP <proccess id> 
right before posting the menu.  Then dumping it as the process is suspended.

-Chee
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Bug or Feature:  xlock "bitten by quarks"
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:22:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO

Date: 28 Jul 92 03:58:39 GMT
Message-Id: <Bs2z1t.AC8@solbourne.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I'm sure this question has been asked and the problem solved already, since
it occurs in the release of xlock available on export.lcs.mit.edu.

Basically, when parsing the "-delay", "-batchcount" or "-saturation" options,
xlock wants to replace a resource of the form "XLock.<module>.<option>",
and passes "XLock.<module>" as the name to XrmParseCommand, e.g.:

If the module is "qix" and you want to set the delay,

"xlock -delay 1 -mode qix"

will do something like

XrmParseCommand(db, table, count, name, argc, &argv);

with name set to "XLock.qix"

Unfortunately, XrmParseCommand just converts the name argument to a quark
directly, and the resource manager will never find a match since it's trying
to compare the quark for "XLock.qix" with the quark list such a resource name
would normally generate.  Since the man page says that "name" should be the
application name, I would believe this is a "don't do this" type of thing
(that perhaps should warrant a caveat in the man page) rather than a bug, but
wanted to check to make sure...
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From: dscott@schlitz.ittc.wec.com (Dave Scott)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Large buttons under XView 3.0
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:33:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Westinghouse - Simulators Division, Pittsburgh, PA

Date: 22 Jul 92 14:54:15 GMT
Message-Id: <DSCOTT.92Jul22105415@schlitz.ittc.wec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.misc

Hi,

We're developing some XView 3.0 applications for use on Suns running
OpenWindows 3.0 (Sun xnews server) and also on DECstations running mwm
(standard DEC X11R4 server).

The problem is: some applications have 'large' buttons (i.e. a bitmap
image on a button) and they work just fine on the xnews server
(OpenWindows 2.0/3.0)

But, when we recompile using our converted 'XView 3.0 for DECstations'
the bottom 6-8 pixels of each button are cut off (i.e. it's a
bottom-less button).  This makes the interface look a bit odd?!?! :-)

Possibilities tried and failed:

1)	"It's that crazy DEC server!"

	Nope, tried it on the Sun with a 'standard-issue' MIT R4 server
	and it still acted 'funny'.

2)	"It's a bug in X11R4!"

	Nope, recompiled and ran it on the Sun with a 'standard-issue'
	MIT R5 server and it still acted 'funny'.

3)	"It's a problem with the DevGuide generated code!"

	Nope, wrote some sample XView code by hand, and the symptoms
	were the same as the above.  Oops, didn't mention that we were
	using DevGuide 3.0 also.  :-|

In conclusion, it seems that bitmap buttons are only correctly
supported under Suns xnews server (based on X11R4).

Is this a bug in the XView 3.0 toolkit?

Has anyone seen this before and gotten it to work?

Any pointers will be gratefully accepted.

-das
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From: anand@pluto.sybase.com (Anand Sathe)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: bringing up a shell from within a X program
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:33:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 27 Jul 92 22:20:44 GMT
Message-Id: <21684@sybase.sybase.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

Keywords: 

i want to do the following: i have an option in my menu very similar  to the ms-windows option - escape to dos shell. 
i basically want to exec a shell . however i want to maintain the look and feel of my application and so execing a
xterm is not what i want. any pointers/hints/code appreciated.
thanx
anand