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From: chuanli@remus.rutgers.edu (chuanli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Let's vote  --- Who is the most unselfish player on the Dream Team?
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:59:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I think "no ego" should be the No 1 quality for the  palyers on the
Dream Team. Who do you think is the most unselfish player? 
I vote for Ewing.  I will post the result after the final game.  

**********************************************
Franck
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ
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From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SOCCER: Results Pool D
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:54:32 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

# = number of matches played
W = won
D = draw
L = lost
P = points
F = goals for
A = goals against


Group D
=======

Sweden - Paraguay  0-0
Morocco - South Korea  1-1

Sweden - Morocco  4-0
Paraguay - South Korea  0-0

Matches 30-7:

Sweden - South Korea 1-1
28. Jung Seo 0-1
52. Roedlund 1-1
Yellow cards: Andersson (Swe), Sin (SK)

Paraguay - Morocco 3-0
43. Arce 1-0
60. Caballero 2-0
70. Gamarra 3-0
Yellow cards: Azim, Achab, Bahja (Mar)


Final positions:
                   # W D L  P   F A
                   ================
>>Sweden           3 1 2 0  4   5-1
>>Paraguay         3 1 2 0  4   3-0

  South Korea      3 0 3 0  3   2-2
  Morocco          3 0 1 2  1   1-8

Sweden and Paraguay play in quarterfinal matches.
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: USA soccer team
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:16:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: hsdndev.1650
Organization: HMS

In article <92206.095032JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>Does anybody out there have an opinion on the chances of the US soccer team
>placing in the top 3 at the Olympics?  I have heard any information on the
>status about them.  Do they have the same German coach and players that will
>compete for the World Cup?  If so, I believe the US may have a good chance
>to get a medal.
>
>---Paul Garlitz


Their chances are just as good as me getting TC PPV :-). The team is
very much different from the World Cup Squad. I think only 2 or 3 guys
are from the WC team. The Olympic Team players are age 23 and under(Olympic
Rules). Of course,if you followed the press media coverage
about US soccer team in the past year, you migh have been under the
impression that the same team was trying to qualify for both. One of
the biggest problems of getting soccer coverage in the American media is
media's unfamiliarity with the sport. I wish all the sports editors and
sports directors would take the sport more seriously instead rememembering
about the days of Pele playing for NY/NJ Cosmos.

-Mark
From: rachele@nysa.cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS: results (top three of women's all-around)
Keywords: gymnastics
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:51:19 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

In article <1992Jul31.144213.11415@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> xepama@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (P.Mann) writes:
>I am impressed at the prescience of the people who not only predicted that
>an EUN gymnast would be 'injured' to allow Gutsu to compete, but also
>named the victim.  I didn't see all of the competition; did the US 
>commentators discuss how convenient it was the the weakest of the 3 EUN
>competitors should drop out this way?

Surprisingly, no, the NBC commentators did not mention it at all.
They just took the stance of not even questioning the injury.  I must
admit though that I am still unconvinced that Roza Galieva was
injured.

Rachele
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: More TripleCast Drivel
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:25:21 GMT

I have had cable in my home for almost a month. I drove home thinking that
I was going to be able to watch the split-screen preview of the TripleCast
on CNBC.

When I turned on the tube and flipped through the channels, nothing. No
TripleCast preview. Then I find out that CNBC is not on my cable system
during the times they were televising the previews. Remember, I am served
by Prime Cable of Chicago, one of only two cable franchises that serve
the immediate city. 

No great loss. I wouldn't even buy it at the discount rate. Except for maybe
the weekend package...

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com) "57 channels and nothing on" - B Springsteen
From: reed@owlnet.rice.edu (Kevin Niles Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: USA/Japan Protest
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:40:07 GMT
Organization: Rice University

While listening to the discussions about the US Volleyball team, I was given
the impression that they are likely to win the Gold.  They were expected
to win all the preliminary games quite easily.  The problem I have with the
protest, is that if we set up an analagous situation in Basketball, we would
accuse the players of being petty(boy am I going to get flamed for this).
The US in all likelyhood will advance, with or without a victory over Japan.
If the call was going to make a difference in the end, I could understand
people's anger with the ruling.


Kevin Reed
reed@agps.lanl.gov

I don't represent Rice University or Los Alamos National Laboratory
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From: alvstad@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: NBC Coverage
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:14:07 GMT

In article <131944@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>
>In article <Bs68Dr.5CE@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gletty@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Gletty) writes:
>>alvstad@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
>>>I was quite upset at NBC--didn't they at least show the medal 
>>
>>Why show the medal ceremonies at all??? They are truly boring.
>
>Boring or not, it would be impossible to show ALL the medal ceremonies,
>as some people have indicated that they would like.  It's still early
>in the games, and yesterday 17 gold medals were given out.  At about ten
>minutes per ceremony, it would have taken 170 minutes to show them
>all -- obviously much too much time.  During the last few days, when 
>there will be lots of finals, there will be probably be around 30 
>medal ceremonies each day.  
>
>Ed
>ed@wente.llnl.gov
>
>

Maybe I should clarify myself...
	What I really should have said was that if NBC is going to show the
medal ceremony, they should show ALL THREE competetors and ALL THREE flags
being raised.

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu


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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: The Clean Games ???
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:53:21 GMT

In article <2820@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> sue@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Sue McPherson) writes:
>There has been a lot of talk about how these will be the "Clean Games", ie.
>that with improved drug detection the use of performance enhancing drugs
>will be reduced.
>

"Clean Games" are impossible because most countries including the major
powers like the US do not have year round no-notice testing...at
competition drug-testing (apart from stimulants that can be used the
day of the competition) are mostly for show.  It was reported in a
Canadian paper that official US bodies publish drug clearance times
with the list of banned substances they distribute to their athletes.

Gerald
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From: ml@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au
Subject: Basketball result.  ESP:BRA
Organization: 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:23:23 GMT

G'day,

Can someone post the result of Spain v. Brazil Mens Basketball match, please?

I believe this was played late in Day 2.

Thanks,
Mik.

ml@vcp.monash.edu.au
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From: zyan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Zhongcheng Yan)
Subject: Re: SWIMFINAL: Result-W's 100m Butterfly
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:49:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.213707.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.180928.26247@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb) writes:
>> In article 1@cc.curtin.edu.au, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
>>>SWIMMING - Women's 100m Butterfly FINAL
>>>=======================================
>>> 
>>>World Record		57.93
>>>Olympic Record	59.00
>>>
>>> 
>>>Go	HONG, Qian			CHN	  58.62		New OR
>>>Si	AHMANN-LEIGHTON, Christine	USA	  58.74
>>>Br	PLEWINSKI, Catherine		FRA	  59.01
>>>------
>>>4	XIAOHONG, Wang			CHN	?
>>>5	O'NEILL, Susan			AUS	  59.69
>>>6	SANDERS, Summer			USA
>>>7	VAN ALMSICK, Franziska		GER	?
>>>8	SHITO, Rie			JPN	?
>
>> Another case of potential success unfufilled. There had been much said 
>> of Summer Sanders in the weeks leading up to this fortnight. 
>
>Many cases of potential success have been thwarted in the pool.  Just look
>at the Sadovy/Perkins battle with th 3:45.00 World Record race.
>
>> Well, an American won a medal, but it's not the one NBC expected. And
>> the PRC continues to do its thing in the water. 
>
>PRC is the People's Republic of China, commonly known as Taiwan (code PRC?)
>PDRC is the People's Democratic Republic of China, commonly known as China
>(code CHN).
>
>CHN, China or the People's Democratic Republic of China, have been doing
>very well in the diving and swimming waters.
>
>Rod Swift
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From: killer@robocop.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: Why only ONE british olympic team
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:14:04 GMT

In <1992Jul27.183820.2386@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>>Because USA has only one, too.  So does Denmark and Finland.
>See below; Puerto Rico is considered separate from the rest of the
>segments which make up the United States (including the fifty states,
>the District of Columbia, and territories governed by the US).

I won't argue about the status of Puerto Rico, but I have a *VERY*
vague feeling that P.R. is very often considerd a country of its
own right.  That is not, however, the case with Northen Ireland,
Scotland, Wales, Far Islands (belong to Danmark), Greenland (ditto)
or Ahvenanmaa (Finland).
(These all have a somewhat extensive independence in interior affairs=.
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From: johnh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (John J Humpal)
Subject: Re: Who is the commentator in the diving?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:33:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.162327.8150@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha) writes:
>
>   Gosh, and to think that we'll have to face 15 more days of Bob Costas
>   and company! GASP!!!!!

	Would you rather have to suffer through Bryant Gumbel again (gag)?

-- 
-John

John J. Humpal -- johnh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu -- short .sig, std. disclaimer
From: roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: MEDAL COUNT su 26.7.
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:56:24 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <19672@optima.cs.arizona.edu> tlglenn@cs.arizona.edu (Ted L. Glenn) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.211702.15672@cs.hut.fi> killer@robocop.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa) writes:
>>
>>The official standings are in order of gold medals, then silver and
>>finaly bronze.  I will update the Total medal count to include countries
>>not having won a gold medal real soon now.
>
>I've always understood the "official standings" to be based on the total
>number of medals won. If there was a tie, the number of gold medals won 
>would be used as a tie-breaker, and if a tie remained, the number of silver
>medals would break the tie.

As far as I know "official standings" don't exist.  All medal counts
are unofficial and each country counts medals in the way that better
matches their needs or their cultural background.

For example we Italians, that love winners, are used to count gold
first, then silver, then bronze and absolutely don't care about the
totals.
For us a gold is many times better than a silver and our top athletes
know that if they get a gold it's the glory, but if they get a silver
they are *losers* (with very few exceptions).

Sometimes for our athletes a bronze is better than a silver, at least
they are not *big* losers.  However we usually don't make too much
fuss about a bronze.

>Think about it, a country with 5 bronze medals and nothing else deserves
>to be ranked higher than a country with one gold medal and nothing else.

It depends. For an Italian fan one gold medal is much much better
than five bronze (even ten and probably twenty), so we think that
the country with the lone gold must be ranked higher than the other
one.

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From: thorn@diku.dk (Peter Tjornsted)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Unisex Olympics?
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:02:49 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

"Skeet" shooting is an unisex competetion. It is currently lead by an asian
woman who is alone at shooting 200 of 200 possible points.

Peter alias thorn@freja.diku.dk
From: desjarly@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Desjardins Lyne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Table Tennis : News
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:58:55 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Hello!

Just heared that two tabletennis players have got permission from the
IOC to play in the womens doubbles. Gordana Perkucin who is a Serb and
Jasna Fazlic who is from Bosnia have been allowed to play together and
defend their bronze medal from 1988. They will not be reprecenting any
country, they'll just be competing as "Independent Olympic Competitors".

These two are the only ones from different teams, competing together!

BTW, table tennis only starts Tuesday, July 28th... That's why I don't
have any result by now !!

Bye !!

Lyne.

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From: Rodger_Madison@rand.ORG (Rodger Madison)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Summer Olympics trivia quiz #2
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:53:39 GMT
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California

In article <1992Jul24.170541.9355@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, roderick@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Brett Roderick) writes:
> 1.  The Summer Olympic Games will be held in 1996 in the city of ________.
     A. Rome, Italy

> 2.  The four accepted swimming styles in the Olympic Games are freestyle,
>     butterfly, breaststroke, and ________.

     Backstroke

> 3.  The winner of the gold medal in both springboard diving and platform
>     diving during the L.A. Games was a young man named ________.

    A. Greg Louganis

> 4. The 1984 champion of soccer was __________.

      A. Brazil

> 5.  Not only was ______ an athelete at the Games of the Fifth Olympiad in
>     Stockholm, he also served as President of the I.O.C. form 1952-1972.

				   B. Avery Brundage

> 6.  At the first Olympic Games in Athens, 1896, there were 295 competitors
>     from _______ nations.

			      C. 17

> 7.  Max and Buddy Baer are the only brothers to have fought for the world
>     heavyweight title?    True or False?

     False

> 8.  The _______ is the only men's event at which a world record has not
>     been set in the Olympics.

      A. Discus


> 9.  Discontinued after the 1920 Olympic Games, archery was reintroduced
>     for both male and female competitors in __________.

							   D. Moscow, 1980

> 10.  The Olympic motto is "Citius, Altius, Fortius." What does it mean?
>         ___________, ____________, ___________

	  Faster, Higher, Stronger.
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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: Posted results... was (Re: Athletics/T&F Results - A request)
Summary: Expires dates to be filled in
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:51:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.093930@axion.bt.co.uk> jpope@axion.bt.co.uk (john pope) writes:
>Anyway, would some kind soul please collect and mail me as many
>T&F results as possible as its quite likely our local server will
>have dumped everything by the time (if) I return.

I am sure either Steve Mattic or Larry Ehmer (the two track & field
"reporters" will be saving the info and can email it to you.)
However, I just thought I'd take the opportunity to point out that
everyone posting the results is putting "10 Aug 92" on the Expires:
line of the header.  I don't know too much about if that will work (ie
if your server subsequently won't dump it), but we are hoping that it
will...

Rachele
From: ajc@philabs.philips.com (Alec Cameron)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: MEDAL COUNT su 26.7.
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:02:24 GMT
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY

In article <19672@optima.cs.arizona.edu> tlglenn@cs.arizona.edu (Ted L. Glenn) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.211702.15672@cs.hut.fi> killer@robocop.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa) writes:
>>
>>The official standings are in order of gold medals, then silver and
>>finaly bronze.  I will update the Total medal count to include countries
>>not having won a gold medal real soon now.
>
>I've always understood the "official standings" to be based on the total
>number of medals won. If there was a tie, the number of gold medals won 
>would be used as a tie-breaker, and if a tie remained, the number of silver
>medals would break the tie.
>
>Think about it, a country with 5 bronze medals and nothing else deserves
>to be ranked higher than a country with one gold medal and nothing else.
>--
>Ted L. Glenn             "Don't worry, be happy!" <--Ack! Pffffhhht!
>HI! I'm a .sig disinfectant. Please remove all viruses from your .signature.
>"tlglenn%cs.arizona.edu"@ARIZVMS.BITNET {noao,allegra,uunet}!arizona!tlglenn


There are no official medal standings.  They are all an invention of
the media.  The advantage of the unofficial system, is that several
countries can claim to win the medal count depending on the method of
ordering they choose to employ.  (For example, if a given country does
not win the most gold medals, their media can count the total number
of medals if that works out better.)

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Subject: Re: Why only ONE british olympic team
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:37:50 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <92209.085455BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,
BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Bernard BELL) says:
>
>In rugby, Scotland, England and Wales compete as separate teams in the
>Home Championship, but N.Ireland and Eire compete together as a unified
>Ireland team.  Occassionaly they all get together to tour as the British
>Lions. I assume that the Lions include representatives from Eire. Someone
>correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, in Ireland it's usually called the British and Irish Lions.

And most Irish people prefer that you don't use the Eire when speaking
in English. The name of the state in English is Ireland. If you want to
unambigouosly specify that you're not including Northern Ireland, the
Republic of Ireland is your best bet.

The Irish team in the Olympics are entered in the name of Ireland, and
atheletes from the whole island are eligible to compete for Ireland in the
Olympics, but only those from Northern Ireland are entitled to compete for
Great Britain. As far as I can recall, two of the men who won Olympic Gold
Medals in Hockey for GB last time round, played for Ireland in the Hockey
World Cup 2 years ago. (They were both from Northern Ireland).

>
>GB or UK does not compete as a team in the Commonwealth Games. Instead, the
>constituent parts compete as separate teams (England, Scotland, etc.).
>
>Those of you who watched the opening ceremony of the Olympics would have
>seen that the British team came in as under the name Great Britain, or
>more accurately, under Grande Bretagne, since the language of nomenclature
>for the parade was French. Does anyone know why the British compete as
>Grande Bretagne and not as Royaume Uni?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Subject: Re: Bob Costas and NBC commentators
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.011926.14387@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> astefani@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Stefanidis) writes:

>I do not understand why a specific person is so angry at Bob Costas. I think he
>is doing a fine job, he is smart, a true gentleman and quite knowledgable.

Woops!  Wrong on all four counts.  Maybe you missed all the posts regarding
his arrogant display of bigotry and ignorance in the opening ceramonies.
He is the center piece of this shameless nationalism that you lament.

>Finally, as somebody mentioned, it is quite disappointing to see NBC showing
>only the face of the US gold medalist, and totally skipping a ceremony when a
>US athlete did not get the gold! Very bad and unsportsmanlike behavior in
>the biggest athletic event. Very low!
>
>Anthony Stefanidis
>Ohio St8

j n a
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:19:46 GMT

In article 26230@news.nd.edu, jortiz@frumpy.helios.nd.edu (The Candyman) writes:
>
>	A friend told me recently that NBC won't cover
>any Olympic events; that EVERYTHING will be covered by
>that TripleCast crap.
>	My studies don't let me watch that much TV,
>but I was thinking about taking a little break this
>week-end and catching the Ceremonies and a couple of
>competitions on the tube.  How right is my friend?
>

No, No, No!

There will be a total of 161 hours over the next two weeks devoted by
the Nitwit Broadcasting Crew led by the affable Bob Costas (honest).

Much of NBC prime time and late night coverage will be tape delayed
stuff, the stuff that will be shown live on the much-ballyhooed
TripleBomb.

IMO, Bob Costas may be the best reason to watch NBC coverage. So, don't
worry about the TripleBomb, unless you and a bunch of your friends plan
to spread out the cost. 

Let the (fun and) Games begin!

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com)


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