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From: lehman@george.arc.nasa.gov (John Lehman -- GDP)
Subject: imake
Summary: simple example
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:36:48 GMT


According to page 111 of _Managing Projects with make_,
Dec. '91 printing:  

"For a tool that is so widely distributed,
imake remains extraordinarily underdocumented."


"imake" is a program which reads an "Imake.tmpl"
file in a specified directory, and writes a Makefile.


Example 0.1 about imake:

The Imakefile contains:

target1 : prerequisite1
	action1

The Imake.tmpl file contains:

#include "./Imakefile"


Example 0.2 about imake:

The Imakefile contains:

f_to_o(prog1)

The Imake.rules file contains:

#define f_to_o(fileNameStem) @@\      [the backslash is last char. on line.]
fileNameStem.o : fileNameStem.f @@\ 
	$(F77) $(FFLAGS) -c fileNameStem.f @@

The Imake.tmpl file contains:

#include <Imake.rules>
#include "./Imakefile"


In all examples, any Imake.tmpl file, and any Imake.rules file,
is in a directory which will be specified in the -I option of
the imake command; and the Imakefile is in the current directory.

Given the files of example 0.1 or of example 0.2, one runs imake
with the following command:

imake -I/full_path_name_of_the_directory_containing_Imake.tmpl

and it generates a Makefile in the current directory.

Why one might want to use imake:  The Imakefile is typically
much shorter and easier to read than the corresponding Makefile.

The rules in Imake.rules are (multi-line) cpp macros.


--------------

There.  I hope someone takes an interest, even if only
to point out a mistake.  "0 articles" in alt.uu.comp.misc
my foot!  Now at least there is 1 article in here.

lehman@ames.arc.nasa.gov
From: z_madsenka@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.uu.comp.misc
Subject: mail
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:01:51 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

What is UU?
From: jennifer@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: I am finally posting!!!:)
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:05:54 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

O my gost, I am really posting. I refuse to use the anon, because I am 
tired of pretending.  I am a survivor.  I have been reading this newsgroup 
silently for almost a year.  I want to thank you all for being there.  All 
the stuff you write about and talk about has been really helpful to me.  
If it weren't for this group,  I wouldn't have the strength to post to 
this group.  Thank you.
And e-hugs, what a wonderful idea!! How many times have I taken you up on 
them? E hugs to all of you who have been sending them into my silence all 
this time.
Jen
JENNIFER@YANG.EARLHAM.EDU
Anybody with replies can send them to me personally if they want, or 
whatever.  I still don't know that much about e mail and newsgroups and 
posting and stuff.
From: anon-1266@twwells.com
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: just a thought
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:21:55 GMT
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com



I find it so dfficult to go home on the weekends.  The very people who are 
offering me the support I would like to take could be (are) the those that
have caused this turmoil I am in.  They don't know what is wrong with me but
they certainly don't think it is them.  It is just strange I guess.

I wish I could just stay away from them for a while so I can figure out what
is going on but there is no escaping.  They aren't mean to me and they try to
give me everything I need.  I just think that it a wierd relationship.  They
are always telling me that my only friends are my family and in many ways I 
believe them.  I spend a lot of time at home so I guess I do.   I respect both
of my parents very much, out of guilt, I am not sure.  They both worked hard 
for the kids and I feel like I owe something.  I find it so hard to blame them
for any of the problems I am having now but inside I know they had somrthing
to do with it.  
They seem too innocent.
Thanks.   



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From: anon-1012@twwells.com (All Me of Us)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: hello
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:07:27 GMT
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com
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Hi anon-1259, welcome to asar.

>Hi
>This is my first posting.
>Any MPD's out there???  Survivors of cult/ritualistic abuse??
>Is this the appropriate place to discuss it?

Yes, you are in the right place.  I am a multiple, and feel
pretty comfortable posting about it here.  As far as I know,
and I'm pretty certain about it, there is no ritual abuse
in my background.  There are others who post here who are
survivors of ritual abuse; I will let them speak for themselves.


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From: johnl@yang.earlham.edu (John Fiskio-Lasseter)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: Stuck Stuff...
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:00:34 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <12290@jjmhome.UUCP>, lmann@jjmhome.UUCP (Laurie Mann) writes:

> But, about two weeks ago a local paper published a series of really
> demoralizing articles about how the churches he was involved in still
> don't want to believe that he did what he did.  So I've been writing
> letters, urging that the person be defrocked (or whatever the Unitarian
> equivalent of that is---this will apparently be decided next month), and
> trying to deal openly with the denial that the congregations still seem
> to be engaged in.

Good for you!  Glad someone's got the guts to speak the truth there!  You 
know, if you haven't already, you might want to check out the following 
book: 

_Is Nothing Sacred?_  by Marie Marshall Fortune

which is about sexual abuse in the clergy (she's UCC, by the way) and the 
necessary (and unfortunately rare) responses of a congregation to pastors/ 
other religous authorities who abuse.

Mennonite Central Committee also publishes some excellent material on the 
subject.  If you want, I can mail/post the info for the MCC material 
and/or the address for the Center for the Prevention of Sexual and 
Domestic Violence (of which Fortune is the head) in Seattle.

Peace,
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From: enigma@netcom.com (Enigma)
Subject: Re: Karla Marie Alwan, survivor
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 01:16:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Scott, I'm so sorry.  I will miss her postings here.  I wish I knew what
to say...

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From: anon-1267@twwells.com (Brian)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Just a Test
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:14:27 GMT
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com


There is nothing substantive contained herein.  I just wanted to post some-
thing so that I could be _absolutely certain_ that it'd show up anonymously.
Yes, I know it's supposed to work o.k. and that anon-ping is supposed to 
serve to verify whether or not messages show up clean, but I don't believe
anything before I see it.  If this works, I'll post the real message soon.



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From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Sherri)
Subject: Re: ******SPOILT HER*****
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:01:27 GMT


Brandywine, I think many of us have had to deal with premature recommendations
like "You can't blame all your problems on sexual abuse" "You can't dwell
on this forever", et cetera ad nauseum.  What I usually see in this
type of comment (though there are some exceptions) is an expression of
a person's inability to keep dealing with the depth of suffering that you
are experiencing with an annoyingly concurrent inability to be honest
about their own desires.  Your friend may really care about you to
the extent that she can right now, but she isn't being honest with you
or with herself.

I'm glad you recognize that you aren't using abuse as an excuse for anything,
that you just aren't done healing yet and that's just the way it is.  It's
very healthy that you can recognize the many ways in which you are responsible,
in fact you may be so responsible that you will choose to be a bit less
so in the future.  I've seen enough of you just from your posts on asar
to recognize that you are a very caring person who is able to support
others even when in a lot of personal pain.

Healing is something that will happen at your own pace.  Anger, for me
at least, was never something I got over, it just became less and less
important as I have begun to see the beauty of my present more than
I see the ugliness of my past.  Talking and being honest is a lot more
important than trying to 'get your life back to normal' (whatever that
is).

What I would probably do in your situation (my opinions are humble--your
mileage may vary) is give your friend the opportunity to set some
boundaries.  I have had times in my life where I lived, breathed, ate, drank,
wrote, and read abuse constantly.  It was honestly the foremost thought
on my mind.  I was not an easy person to be around (this was only about 3
months ago, it sounds like years from the way I'm talking about it here :))
  My good friends and my SO in particular eventually had to find ways to
set boundaries.  For my SO, it was a request that I only talk about
my own issues, not recount the story of every fellow survivor and every
dysfunctional family I heard or read about.  I was initially hurt by this
and felt rejected, but I later was able to see the wisdom of it and
soon began to appreciate that my issues were singled out as important--i.e.
he admitted that supporting me was a strain for now but it was something he
was choosing to do.  Other friends and my SO needed times where we didn't
discuss abuse.  This was good for me, too.  I had a need to put the issues
aside for a bit and just spend healthy casual time with people.

In any case, I hope her needs don't make you feel shameful or guilty.  I
think you're wonderful.

Ehugs and warm smiles if you want them!

Sherri
From: anonymus+845@godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: test again
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:20:52 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service

sorry , this is just to test
for the alias that I made on my
computer  for this group-

sorry for the inconviences.


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From: anonasar@khijol.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: RE: for those considering Final - a new view
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:38:18 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies

X-ANON-Version: 0.5



In article <9209300713.AA10367@saturn.upl.com>, anonasar@khijol.UUCP writes:
>
	[ most of a unique point of view deleted ]

>"But, it's not that easy!" you whine.  I'm here to remind you that it IS
>that easy ...

After reading (and re-reading) this most unique post, and having studied
a lot of the type of things that I feel this person may have been trying
to get out (not that I necessarily agree, mind you) I would like to offer
an insight that I had today.

I feel (IMHO) that some of the confusion (and objection) to the post may
have been generated by a misunderstanding because of a choice of words.
I specifically mean the word "easy" in the above quote.

Perhaps if the poster had used the word "simple" instead.  Now, I personally
have found that many IMPLY that simple means *EASY*, but I would ask
that you not imply that here.

An example: my uncle smokes, I could say it is *SIMPLE* to quit smoking,
just don't do it any more.  However, it is not so *EASY* to quit.  As my
uncle told me... he had smoked a pack or more a day for decades.  IF you do
the math that would mean that he had smoked more than he had done anything
else (except breathe).  So to ask him (or anyone) to change a habit (good or
bad) that has been exercised that much for that long is not *EASY* by my 
standards (or his, since he still smokes), but I could say it is "simple".

How about losing weight?  Simple, but then there are people making millions
helping others with food, programs, support, drugs, etc.  Why?  Becuase
"simply" not eating so much is not *EASY* when you have a long habit of
eating too much, or the wrong foods, etc.

Or when my mother died a few months ago..."simply" go on...Yeah, simple,
But, I assure you it isn't all that *EASY*

Hugs to all that want them

Taylor

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From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: Karla Marie Alwan, wonderful person (was Re: um, so much for mourning)
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:16:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I didn't know her at all and I've never even read any of her posts (I've
only just subscribed) but reading your memorial to her I cried. You 
*both* are very wonderful people, and were lucky to find each other.

(I say "are" because Karla will live on in your heart, and the hearts 
of everyone who knew her. She's now in my heart because of you. Thank you.) 

vickie
From: tdelaney@penn.Gwinnett.COM (ted delaney)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: mpd
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:23:33 GMT

erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
> Bones (anon-1005@twwells.com) wrote:
> : I'm also multiple but not due to cult abuse.  Do any of you have
> Uh, "cult abuse"?  I wasn't aware that this was at all the case - the stats
> I've seen say that "cult abuse" and such are very rare, except in the minds
> of those who either have an axe to grind or have something to gain from runni
> around screaming "The Satanists are everywhere!"

Ed- CHILL OUT. now. please.
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
From: faype@bcvms.bc.edu
Subject: Re: Formal Hello...
Organization: Boston College
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:13:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.005901.16874@SSD.intel.com>, warton@ssd.intel.com (Peter Warton) writes:

>	On to the reason for my post, besides the big hello.  I am in the 
>unfortunate (?) position of being extremely intellectual about my recovery.  
>I know this is a tool I developed to survive the constant abuse (of many
>kinds) I suffered growing up, and it can be useful.  However, with my style
>of intellectual recovery there is little room for feelings.  This is to say
>the least, highly frustrating (hey, a feeling! :-) for me.  Does anyone know
>what it's like to know cold, dull rage intimately yet never get angry?  It 
>is not easy to explain, it's simply intellectual rage, with no emotional
>content.  I should mention that a couple of times I have gotten in touch

Ditto.  I have been as intellectual as possible and divorced from my 
feelings as one could be - and this is only very slowly changing after 
2-1/2  years of recovery, flashbacks, total denial from my entire family, 
etc.  I've been in therapy for 8 years, 12-step groups, and still I only 
rarely feel any deep emotions (except for my children).  I was abused by 
three generations in my family and many outside as well.  I wish I could 
tell you it will get better quickly, but it all depends on the individual 
and the degree of abuse... but it does "get better".
-pete
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Daily Post
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:39:14 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Hiho....  I don't have a lot of time to make this daily post, but I have a hell
of a lot to say.  But first, the crucial information:

I may not be around for a while.  A warrent is out for my arrest, because I
failed to appear in court while out on an I-Bond.  (For a minor traffic
offence, I slept through the court date.)

I am on the way to the local Police Station, and going to turn myself in.  I
should be able, at that time, to post bond, and go on home.  Court date will be
rescheduled, and there won't be a problem.

Hopefully.  If something goes wrong, you won't hear from me for a while...  At
any rate, I'm under incredible amounts of stress...  (no shit!)

Talk to evercyone soon.  (Hopefully!)

Krikket

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From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: Karla Marie Alwan, survivor
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:42:00 GMT
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <zj#pfwn.boserj@netcom.com>, boserj@netcom.com (Jeffrey Boser) writes...
>Goodbye Karla.  Thank you for touching my life.
> 
>Dance well, whereever you are now.
> 
>......jeff
> 

Could someone repost the article that generated this response please ? Jeff 
filled me in on the salient points, but I would like to see the original 
article. 

.. and may Karla embrace the peace which she now, finally enjoys.

-- Stephen

	"Some people live their dreams, some people close their eyes.
	 Some people's destiny... passes by"

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From: mommaerts@medgen.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: To Goldberry -- was: ANGRY at my parents
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 6 OCT 92 12:29:46 CDT


I am anon e-mail ignorant and so I am posting this directly to asar.

I just read your ANGRY letter to your parents.  It was intense and incredibly
written.  Just reading it made me feel... feel...yes FEEL.  I am not real
good at Feeling.  You articulated things that I know are deep inside me
that I can't really reach.  My therapist urged me to write a similar letter..
it is scary...  I don't know if I am saying the "right" things but I just
wanted to cheer you on!!!!  Your letter made me happy.  You are getting
out what you need to say and what your ex-parents HAVE to hear-- whether
they get that letter or not.. does that make sense??  I recently left a voice
mail message for my perp and later found out that he may not have gotten
it-- it was the first time I told him that he abused me... right now I don't
care that he may not have gotten it because it just felt so good to get some
of those words out.  I hope that is how you felt !?!!!!

Just wanted you to know --

**Sandi**
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From: Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower)
Subject: Re: memories of the not too distant past
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:08:32 GMT

Brings back memories of my first time at university.  I don't recall
any thoughts of suicide, but I do remember wondering aimlessly and
seemingly without purpose.  It sometimes took me a lot longer than
neccessary to make the ten(?) minute walk across town to the bus stop.

[Lots of memories, nothing startling.]

Thanks, Anika.


Gavin

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From: lines9933@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: why am I confused?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:43:34 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hi,
    Why is it that I feel bad about myself when my fiancee' wants sex and I do
not?  Because of her abuse and my abuse, this feeling is mutual.  Why is that
so?  I do not understand.  I mean we are both seeking help for our abuse.  Will
this feeling stop in time, or is it something that will never go away.
                                   M.

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From: SCG107@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: Falling off the edge ...... plink!
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:34:11 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <BvKM1x.Mr8@twwells.com>, anon-1055@twwells.com (m&m) says:

[...]

>-> Cause if I scream  NOOOOO!!! I need you to hear me!  They might still say
>no & that will hurt so bad I'll die.
>
>That's the issue.  Simon & Garfunkel's song "I am a rock, I am an Island" was
>my theme song for years.  I am so tempted to go back, but if I do Michael
>will die, but if I don't it'll hurt so bad I'll die anyway!!!

"A rock feels no pain, and an island never cries." Wouldn't it be nice not to
feel pain, not to have the tears inside or outside? But I can't care about a
rock, or hug an island, even if it could ask. And you did ask, and I am not
saying no.


>Michael
>
>ps I could sure use a hug

HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!!
HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!!
HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!! HUG!!

Sarah
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From: anon-1201@twwells.com (Jasmyne)
Subject: just in case
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:07:50 GMT
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Organization: Anonymous Posting Service at twwells.com




just in case anyone was wondering where i was i'm still here.....
only a few more marks to my arm and 2 break downs later.
i'm tired and i need a break really bad but i have a month more of
school before a break. And the one day we get off before then all my
wisdom teeht come out...
yeah well life sucks and then you die
like i said before: i'm sick of this fucking shit. Why'd they do it to
me. I don't wanna play this game anymore....


Jasmyne
like it matters anyhow but i thought i would post..just in case



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