HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp,rec.arts.sf.marketplace,rec.collecting
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Shadow Pulps
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:54:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1992Dec16.183221.1282@dracut.keps.com> sue@dracut.keps.com (Sue Klimowicz) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.011155.20224@credence.com> zombolas@credence.com (Gene Zombolas) writes:
>
>> 			SHADOW PULPS FOR SALE
>Please excuse my ignorance but what are shadow pulps. Just curious.

The character _The Shadow_ (maybe you've heard of the radio show) started in
a pulp magazine of the same name.  It printed a Shadow novel and a few short
stories about other people.  This started the whole genre known as 'hero pulps'
or 'character pulps' which created such characters as Doc Savage, the Avenger,
the Spider, etc.

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Newsgroups: alt.divination
From: asgds@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: meditation
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:51:24 GMT


	I recently meditated on a flame during a ritual.  ritual is my term
for any time I perform magick.  Basically I light a candle and invoke God and
the spirits and forces.  The rest is NOYB, Anyway, I stared deeply into the 
flame and entered amild trance.  Not really a "trance" so much as a heightened
state of awareness, I had a couple minor revelation's and came out of it,
feeling positive and renewed.
	I would be REALLY interested in hearing any similar experiences, and/or
advice for achiveing a more prolonged and/or deeper meditative state.

	Please feel free to email me asgds@acad2.alaska.edu
				Love and miscellaneous:)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:57:39 EST
From: Stephen Kuhn <SWK105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: RE: Caudillomancy

Has anyone tried it yet?  Anything interesting happen?
I haven't been able to find anything on it here.
___
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of Stephen.
From: nj@birch.CS.Berkeley.EDU (posting for morrisas)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Caudillomancy
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:38:54
Organization: /home/auspex/h/bair/nj/.organization
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: birch.cs.berkeley.edu


Caudillomancy is the art of reading someone's Tarot using 
illustrator Bill Sienkiewicz's Friendly Dictator Trading Cards
as a trump deck. The idea is to take the information on the cards
and use it allegorically to read a querent.  Standard Celtic Cross
Tableau.  Curtis Yarvin coined this type of cartomancy
and developed it with my assistance in the position of Tarot advisor.
The process is completely tongue-in-cheek, but is a marvellous
send-up of a straight reading, and lots of fun to do at parties.

Ferinstance, the card Adolf Hitler in a well dignified position in
the tableau would indicate a period of enormous respect, love, and
obedience from the people around you, a period of frenetic building,
and a character with ideals of reform, cleanliness, and self 
actualization.  In an ill dignified position such as crossing, 
the Adolf Hitler card would warn against
massive xenophobic slaughter of innocents, succumbing to insanity,
and waging a multifront war out of season before one's own arms and
militia have been properly amassed.  Hitler is also the ruling card
of frustrated artists.

P.W. Botha of South Africa on the other hand, especially in the crown
or foundation position, indicates an individual who, despite his/her
profound respect for conservative traditions,is set apart or
above from his community, outshining the others, flashing brightly
even, er, um, whitely, out of the surrounding, er, um, darkness.  In
an ill dignified position it warns that economic sanctions may be
iminent if the querent does not begin to realign anachronistic values
with the changing times.
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: Reading for Sharon
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:48:09 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs


nj@birch.CS.Berkeley.EDU posts for Morissa:
[...]
|The support card is Parsival, the Son of Cups, the gentle and 
|charismatic seeker for the spiritual satiety and happiness of cups. 
[...]

I like this interpretation for the Knight of Cups.  Is
it the Haindl take on it, or your own?  I find interpreting
knights & queens problematic, and would appreciate suggestions.

---
cj@eno.esd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"My living thoughts have now become nothing but dead signs, a mass 
of little black strokes and dots, which would not mean a thing, say, 
to an Eskimo." --Helm Wotzkow, in The Art of Hand Lettering
Newsgroups: alt.divination
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Self-readings/Other-readings
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:52:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec11.193244.24342@athena.mit.edu> kdez@athena.mit.edu (Katharine M Seaward) writes:
>The way I feel is that if I want to hear cut-rate psychology I can always turn
>on John Bradshaw on TV.  I don't mind some psychological insight in a reading
>but it isn't what I'm paying for!  Does anyone else feel this way sometimes?

One could always (not so subtle like) point out something like 'Gee, I've always
read that card as being such-and-such, how do you see it fitting in here?'
something to let them (the reader) know they aren't dealing with your usual
run-of-the-mill new age yuppie in off the street.
r.
Newsgroups: alt.divination
From: kdez@athena.mit.edu (Katharine M Seaward)
Subject: Self-readings/Other-readings
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:32:44 GMT

Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful remarks I have received on this topic.
I had not considered before how difficult it is to "see through" one's own
technical jargon.  In a way, my understanding of the symbols is too sophisticated to be useful to my conscious mind--is that what you are saying?  That one
can't interpret or explain the reading to oneself the way one would to a 
client?

Speaking of clients.  The last couple of times I've gone to psychics/readers
I've had the very annoying experience of them spending fifteen or twenty
minutes dishing out a kind of warmed-over, rehashed New Age psychobabble, and
about thirty seconds actually being psychic (I'm talking about people who were
quite obviously gifted--but lazy?)  
The way I feel is that if I want to hear cut-rate psychology I can always turn
on John Bradshaw on TV.  I don't mind some psychological insight in a reading
but it isn't what I'm paying for!  Does anyone else feel this way sometimes?
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history
Subject: War Criminal:  Maria Mandel
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09:00:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Keywords: Auschwitz,Mandel

"Maria Mandel ... after Ravensbruck ... was the head of the women's camp at
Auschwitz; the prisoners referred to her as `the beast.' For her share in
the selections for the gas chambers and medical experiments and for her
torture of countless prisoners, she was condemned to death in 1947 as a war
criminal."

Extracted from------------------------------------------------------------
"WOMEN IN THE RESISTANCE AND IN THE HOLOCAUST: THE VOICES OF EYEWITNESSES"
Edited (and with introduction) by Vera Laska. Greenwood Press, Westport &
London, 1983. LOC 82-12018, ISBN 0-313-23457-4                       
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From: divine@cs.uiuc.edu (Dwight Divine IV)
Subject: Re: Holocaust Almanac: T4 Personnel & Concentration Camps
Keywords: 14f13,Bouhler,T4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:05:26 GMT

Excuse me if this has already be debated to death in this group, but
didn't the German Euthanasia movement begin long before the Nazis come
to power?  I have heard that as early as 1920, certain prominent
German intellectuals and scientists were proposing the killing of
those they deemed 'worthless', and that gassings and cremations in
psychiatric hospitals began years before the Nazis.  Could someone
give a brief overview of the development of the German Euthanasia
programs (perhaps the "highlights" and watersheds the movement
experienced, the methods by which it won support among intellectuals
or scientists as well as popular support (if it did), etc.)?  Also,
could someone recommend good works on this issue.  

I confess that I worry that something similar may happen in the not
too distant future in this country.  All the familar forces are coming
into play again: eugenics, encouragement of suicide and mercy killing,
etc.  Leaving aside questions about whether persons should be allowed
to choose suicide, I don't think we will be successful in limiting
mercy killing to those who wish it, or even to those who are
terminally ill.  I think reviewing what happened in Germany might make
us all a little more aware of how it can _always_ "happen again."

Thanks very much to all who respond.  Also, please feel free to
respond by attacking the positions advanced here, if you feel them to
be in error, as well as to recommend works which oppose these
positions (as if I needed to ask for opposition :) ).


Xref: sparky alt.revisionism:860 soc.history:10217
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history
Subject: Holocaust Almanac: "Liquidate them yourselves!"
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 09:00:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Keywords: Frank

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Speech by Frank [Governor of occupied Poland], December 16 1941
[DotH, p. 247]
---------------------------------------------------------------
One way or another -- I will tell you quite openly -- we must finish off
the Jews. The Fuehrer put it into words once: should united Jewry again
succeed in setting off a world war, then the blood sacrifice shall not be
made only by the peoples driven into war, but then the Jew of Europe will
have met his end....

But what should be done with the Jews? Can you believe that they will be
accommodated in settlements in the Ostland? In Berlin we were told: why are
you making all this trouble? We don't want them either, not in Ostland nor
in the Reichskommissariat; liquidate them yourselves! Gentlemen, I must ask
you to steel yourselves against all considerations of compassion. We must
destroy the Jews wherever we find them, and wherever it is at all possible,
in order to maintain the whole structure of the Reich...
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DotH = Documents on the Holocaust. 

A recent copy of our Almanac Holocaust files may be obtained via anonymous
ftp from menora.weizmann.ac.il, as /pub/texts/lest.we.forget/oneb-txt.tar.Z 
- If you do not have ftp access, I'd be happy to send the collection to you 
as uuencoded email. Please specify *.ZIP or compressed tar format.

Individual files are now available via listserv. Send your request to:
listserv@oneb.almanac.bc.ca, and include the single word 'index' for a list
of available articles.

For individual files, use the 'get' command, and the archive flag
'holocaust' to have them mailed to you..

Example: get holocaust <filename>
	 get holocaust b-cpu.faq
	 get holocaust irving.canada

For a file list, try "index holocaust"

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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
From: jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org (Freedman)
Subject: More on Famous Anti-Semites
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:12:42 GMT

  I once looked up Saints (Roman Catholic kind) who were anti-Semitic.
All I can remember now are

1) St. John Chrysostom(Sp?)- Known and Sainted for his oratorical
powers. In his spare time when he wasn't preaching Christianity he
whipped up anti-Jewish riots

2) St. Juan Irbela(spelling again?)- of Spain. A bishop who had lots
to do with kicking the Jews out of Spain.

  The machinery for declaring/deciding sainthood is very complex with
a "devil's advocate" whose job it is to dig up all the dirt on the
proposed saint. Apparently murderous anit-semitic leanings are/were
not considered "dirt" by the Church.

                             Jerry Freedman
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
From: pmb2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Peter Bell)
Subject: Re: More on Famous Anti-Semites
Reply-To: pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:58:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.181242.29003@linus.mitre.org> jfjr@mbunix.mitre.org (Freedman) writes:
> (accounts of murderously anti Jewish behaviour on the part of various now-
> indidividuals deleted)
> Apparently murderous anit-semitic leanings are/were
>not considered "dirt" by the Church.
>
>                             Jerry Freedman

Jerry--
I read an interesting book on millenarianism awhile back, which started its
account with a discussion of the teaching that the Crusades to capture 
Jerusalem were necessary in order to hasten the arrival of the Millenium.

At the time of the Crusades, it was official church doctrine that Jews were 
the representatives of the Antichrist on Earth.  Most or all Crusades 
commenced with killing a large number of local Jews before departing for 
Palestine.  In fact, this was encouraged.  I don't have the quote, but one 
of the Pope's of the period used words to the effect that "the crusades 
cannot be successful until Satan's operatives in our midst are destroyed, and
no one should go on a crusade without bapatizing himself in Jewish blood."

This is not current teaching, of course.  However, I have not met a lot 
of Christians who are comfortable with the passage before the crucifixion in
which Christ says to Simon Peter (who is ready to defend his life)
"Put your sword back in its scabbard;  am I not to drink the cup that the 
Father has given me?"  (John 18:11)
or in which  he says "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass me by.  
Nevertheless, let it be as you, not I, would have it." and "My father, if 
this cup cannot pass by without my drinking it, your will be done!"  (Matt.
26:39 and 26:42).  The origin of the teaching that the Jews were Satan's 
representatives was that they had killed Jesus;  until quite recently (as 
recently as the late 60's in the Bloomington, IN area) the teaching of the 
Catholic catechism was that the Jews were *to blame* for killing Christ.
However, it is very clear in the gospels that Jesus could have walked out
of Jerusalem--he knew what was coming.  And that it was the will of God 
that he must die;  and indeed his (Christ's) own will.  The crucifixion
was no one's "fault";  it was God's will and had it not been done there 
would be no basis for Christianity according to the Gospels....  

Ah, well.  

Just my two cents worth....

Peter


Xref: sparky alt.revisionism:857 soc.history:10166
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: Quorum Int'l info please
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:35:37 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Dec15.065659.4389@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, ben@cc.gatech.edu (Ben Cowan) writes:
>   If anybody has any info on an MLM company called Quorum International, I
> would appreciate it if you could forward it my way.  I'm not talking about
> how-to-join info.  I already have that.  I want to know of any successes
> with the firm, any scam reports, commendations, complaints, or any other
> pluses or minuses anybody has.
> 
> Thanks much,
> Ben...
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Benjamin H. Cowan                       ||   Reply to:  ben@cc.gatech.edu
> Georgia Tech... Atlanta, Georgia  30332 ||   ****************************
> ================================================================================
> 
> maturity (ma' chur a tee) n. 1: The state of knowing when it is acceptable to
>   be immature.  2: A state of being that every female claims the male sex
>   lacks.

THE ONLY THING ABOUT QUORUM IS THAT IT IS OWN BY VERY-VERY-DEEP PACKET
FOREIGNER (CHINA) AND IT IS NOT CREATED TO BE AROUND FOR VERY VERY LONG.THE
WILL HAVE TO BEDIN TO RETAIL THEY PRODUCTS IN THE STORES EVENTUALLY EVEN THOUGH
THE PRICING IS VERY SOFT AND THERE IS A NEED IN PRODUCTS RIGHT NOW IT WILL TAKE
ABOUT TWO YEARS TO SATISFY ALL OF THE POTENTIAL CUSTUMERS COMPANY OPERATING ON
THAT BASIS USUALLY MAKES SOME PEOPLE GOOD BACKS BUT IT WILL REALLY SOUND TO END
UP LIKE NSA...
MLM PRODUCT M U S T BE CONSUMABLE AND USABLE FOR NECCESITY (WRONG SPELL!).
EVERYTHING ABOVE IS JUST MY OPINION.
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: to all Re: Long distance sponsoring
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:08:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.172040.26395@mksol.dseg.ti.com> rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.004218.45708@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>|> >> 
>|> >> However  we all have to understand that NSA products have a better market in
>|> >> Europe, because there are more living units over there. Yoi see they do not
>|> >> have as many houses as here and they live in apparetments, therefore NSA is
>|> >> doing OK over there. thay. However hey You folks in Europe be
>|> >> carefull..Randolph Bickerton is right about garages...I do not think I can
>|> >> drink as much water as I can filter with mine 
>|> >> inventory of NSA, tlking of air....
>|> >> Greg.
>|> > 
>|> > I feel I must comment further.  No one has talked about the quality of the 
>|> > NSA products!  It is my understanding that better filters exist, some also 
>|> > MLM, for a similar price.  Their air products also lack a quality/price 
>|> > relationship.  The best thing about NSA is their true success in the market 
>|> > by moving product from Nashville to wherever - they even get paid upfront!


>|> THE BETTER FILTERS ARE MADE BY FULLER BRUSH COMPANY. THEY CALLED FullerGuard
>|> and they are better quality. they are on sale now for 169.99 you can also
>|> change cartridges on thoses. They only cost $61.00 and lasts for about 2 years.

>You might also want to check out the Amway Water Treatment System as well
>as the Air Purification system.  The water treatment system was tested by
>"a leading consumer magazine" and was one of the top three if I remember
>correctly.  It too has a replacable filter.

Or the water filter from Rexall Showcase International.  It uses
Halogen Reduction Media (a copper/zinc alloy filter) in addition to
charcoal.   Same pricing.  Undercounter, a 15,000 gallon unit, at $199.
Even have a portable unit you can take with you into restaurants, that
also has a bacteriacidal adaptor.



-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill@bilver.uucp
                - ..!{peora|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: rbeck@mordordseg.ti.com (Ron Beck)
Subject: Re: to all Re: Long distance sponsoring
Reply-To: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com
Organization: is an esoteric concept.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:21:12 GMT

In article <1gq9lmINNhbj@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com>, fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz) writes:
|>
...... stuff deleted .....
|> 
|> PS:  Grigory, the current message has information about injunctions against
|> NSA forcing them to offer refunds to "garage-qualified" distributors.
|> Maybe you can get rid of all those filters in your garage...

This is what I like about my Amway business.  They discourage the "garage
loading" concept.  We work more on a "just in time" ordering system.  By
doing this I have no inventory to deal with.  What comes in on a weekly basis
also goes out on a weekly basis.  It's in the house for maybe 5 hours at most.
Ain't it great!
Ron
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From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: MASTERING MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:36:29 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

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 DAVID CURRY  CALLED MASTERING MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING. THAT I OFFERED
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IN 1979 HE ENTERED THE SPEAKING FIELD. HE JOENED ZIG ZIGLAR IN 1985 AND
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