HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Subject: Re: Pan and Scan version of B&TB
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 06:26:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.043809.27693@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>
>	I just finished watching beauty and the beast here at
>school. It was cropped -- the screen was either 1.66:1 or 1.33:1,
>I'm not sure which. The losses were terrible. Despite having been
>told that there would be some gains due to the original format of
>the movie there were none -- vertical height was same as movie.

I saw it too, and I was thinking of exactly the same thing.

>	It was pretty bad, and now I'm pretty well convinced to
>wait for a real release of the movie (letterboxed). To those who
>have laserdisc players: Don't get the videotape. Write letters to
>Disney to make sure they release a real version.
>

I'm not too familiar with Disney's laserdisc releases; have they
ever released a LBX version of any of their features? Could someone
give me a list.

Now, if only they'd release an LBX version of BntB on VHS...

--
Farul Azim Ghazali.
206 Ruggles Hall, 1116 Amsterdam Ave. New York, NY 10027.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:36:49 EDT
From: Reid Woolery <WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Movie Poster Value

I have a theater poster from "The Jungle Book" that is 27" X 41" in diameter.
The largest frames I can find 27" X 40". My question is this:

   If I was to trim a half an inch from the top and bottom of the poster
   (this is white border area) would it devalue the poster? Would I be
   better off having a frame made to fit?

I realize that having a frame cut to fit will cost triple the price of a ready-
made but I don't want to do something that will deface the poster. Any experts
out there?

******************************************************************************
* Reid S. Woolery                          The Pennsylvania State University *
* (Appl/Sys/Analyst) UTS                   WTQ@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                 *
******************************************************************************

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jhp@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Jim H. Puga)
Subject: Exchanging DL items?  How?
Reply-To: jhp@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Jim H. Puga)
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:32:43 GMT

I purchased the Fantasmic disk at DL when I was there(last
Sunday).  Anyway, I'm having problems with the disk and was
wondering how one would go about exchanging it.

Much as I'd love to go do it personally, it's a little far.
Is there some place I can call or write to see how to rectify
the situation?

Thanks for the info.

-- 
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From: dzatz@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Dave Zatz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Closures at Disneyland
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:38:59 GMT
Organization: Central Intelligence Agency

adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy) writes:

> In article <nbvn#j+.mcdonald@netcom.com> mcdonald@netcom.com (James T. Mc Don
> >As of Labor Day, 7 September 1992, the following attractions are closed
> >for annual refurb:
> >
> >	-Haunted Mansion (for about a month, possibly more, as it is time for
> >	its five year cleaning.
> >
> >	-It's A Small World (big wall up around it, caused most likely by the
> >	construction of Mickey's Starland.
> 
> Timeout!  Hold everything.  I was there on 7-Sep-1992 also.  We didn't ride
> the Haunted Mansion because the line was too long, but it seemed open.
> We rode It's a Small World.  There is a big fence nearby for Mickey's Toontow
> but it was not affecting Small World in any way.
> 
> Did they give you this info over the phone?
> 
> Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)


maybe one of you was at Disney World, and the other DisneyLand?

Dave
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:09:02 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <03lnnt_.tyger@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>>
>>Personally, I'd love to see them do a version of a book I read in elementary 
>>school.  It was called "Bunnicula" and it was about a vampire rabbit.  Not a 
>>fairy tale, I'll grant you, but it was a fun book anyway.  
>
>Oh *wow*! I haven't thought of that story in ages! That really was a hoot! I
>would have to agree that it could lend itself well to a full length feature.

It's been done as a TV special already.

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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Homophobia?
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:32:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.37749
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bu48t2.Bsw@andy.bgsu.edu> rec.arts.disney writes:
>The following note was recently sent through a mailing list which
>deals with the U.K based musical group Erasure.  I was a bit
>suprised by this and thought you all might have some additional
>information or perspective...
>> I just got this news from Christian Bartholdsson in Sweden:
>> 
>>> The Swedish children's programme The Disney Club (cartoons&music for
>>> kids aged around 8-14) had recorded a special feature on Erasure which
>>> they intended to show last week.  But when the American Disney who are
>>> supervising the programme got to know about this, they said "Isn't that
>>> Andy Bell person gay?  Yes, he is!  Cancel the show!!".  This caused an
>>> enormous outrage in Sweden, where such open homophobia is clearly taboo.
>>> Other artists who are supposed to be on the show have withdrawn.  Vince
>>> Clarke said they are going to sue Disney.   Andy Bell's comment was
>>> "They behave like Nazis".  Some video rental chains have said they're
>>> going to take all Disney movies off the shelves.  The papers have been
>>> filled with angry letters from readers.  A huge PR loss for Disney, to
>>> say the least. 
>>>
>>> I don't think there are fewer homophobics over here than in America,
>>> it's just that you can't slag gay people off in public like that.   
>>
>> --
>> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)


I don't have any more information on this situation, but it really
bothers me.  Erasure happens to be my favorite group, and Disney my
favorite studio.  But Disney's image won't allow such "deviance" on
their programs.  Such things are not family-oriented and all that
jazz.  I guess I can understand from both viewpoints.  I'm not gay,
but I'm *NOT* homophobic.  Here's a couple of interesting facts
(accuracy subject to my sources):

There was one Disney studio employee (possibly an animator) back in
the Walt era who was arrested for committing what was vaguely
defined as a homosexual act (in public?).  Walt was told and he
replied that everyone makes mistakes and there was no further
discussion.  The employee continued working for Disney for many
years.

To the best of my knowledge, the late Howard Ashman, Disney lyricist
and producer, was gay.  He worked on The Little Mermaid, Beauty and
the Beast, Aladdin, and a little of Oliver and Company.  Disney may
not have known this, but wouldn't you think they'd try to find out?

Curiously, Andy Bell also serves as the chief lyricist of Erasure,
in addition to singing.  It seems that Disney is willing to hire
talented gays, as long as no one knows and no one can see them.  Now
*that* looks like their image problem.

- Robert Cook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: russell@pmarlowe.uucp (Russell Shanks)
Subject: Re: Closures at Disneyland
Summary: Ride Closures as DL
Reply-To: russell@pmarlowe.cts.com (Russell Shanks)
Organization: rsg
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:43:15 GMT

In article <720@mtinews.mti.com> adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy) writes:
>In article <nbvn#j+.mcdonald@netcom.com> mcdonald@netcom.com (James T. Mc Donald III) writes:
>>As of Labor Day, 7 September 1992, the following attractions are closed
>>for annual refurb:
>>
>>	-Haunted Mansion (for about a month, possibly more, as it is time for
>>	its five year cleaning.
>>
>>	-It's A Small World (big wall up around it, caused most likely by the
>>	construction of Mickey's Starland.
>
>Timeout!  Hold everything.  I was there on 7-Sep-1992 also.  We didn't ride
>the Haunted Mansion because the line was too long, but it seemed open.
>We rode It's a Small World.  There is a big fence nearby for Mickey's Toontown,
>but it was not affecting Small World in any way.
>
>Did they give you this info over the phone?
>
>Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)


	I stopped by the park today (Saturday 9/12) and The Haunted Mansion,
  It's A Small World, and Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln/The Walt Disney Story
  were closed for refurb.   Also the Castle walls were mostly obscured by tarps
  while the vines were being stripped off.  I also noticed that the moat had
  been drained somewhat, possibly for the scaffolding hidden by the tarps.
  That's all I noticed, but I didn't make it into Fronteirland, Adventureland,
  New Orleans Square or Critter Country.

	On a somewhat related note,  I heard through the grapevine that Mission
 to Mars will be closed for good sometime soon (in a few weeks).  Anyone care
 to confirm this?   While we're going through the rumor mill, I heard mention
 that the Carrousel of Progress may reappear at Disneyland in a somewhat updated
 form....This would coincide with it being removed from WDW.  This would be
 somewhat surprising to me.  Another thing that seemed surprising was that
 the prophesized Tomorrowland refurb, would be a rather sweeping change.  The
 land would be renamed Discoveryland.  Finally another victim of the change
 would be the Peoplemover, which would disappear whenever the land change is to
 take place.

	Anyways all this is strictly gossip.  Perhaps someone with an inside track
 could give the rest of us some hints?  Also it would be nice to have updates on
 the Disneyland refurb schedules, including a description of changes which are planned.

	Russell
 
-- 
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    Russell Shanks               Internet:   russell@pmarlowe.cts.com
                                             russell@pmarlowe.UUCP
Xref: sparky rec.arts.disney:4653 rec.food.restaurants:2011
From: lake@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dr. Robin Lake)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Restaurants in Anaheim, CA
Date: 16 Sep 1992 01:35:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Distribution: na
Reply-To: lake@rcwcl1.dnet.bp.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: cwjcc.ins.cwru.edu

In article <1992Sep15.212344.19927@samba.oit.unc.edu> pswecker@med.unc.edu (Peter St.Wecker, N4YRJ) writes:
>     I'll be going to Anaheim at the end of October for a conference, and
>I'm wondering if anyone can recommend some good (or at least decent)
>restaurants in the area.  I'll be staying at a hotel on S. Harbor, across
>the street from Disneyland (it's called the Saga Inn).
>     As I probably won't have a car, are there any restaurants within
>walking distance of there?  For that matter, is it safe to walk there???

Walking is safe, but you'll have trouble finding much worthwhile within
walking distance.  Grab a cab down to Don Eduardo's, on Katella near
Harbor.  Without a doubt the best marguaritas around, and very good
Mexican food at reasonable prices.

In a very different price range and further away, but excellent, is the
Cellar in Fullerton.  May have moved/closed in the past few years, but a
meal to remember at a price only an expense account could love!

Rob Lake
BP Research
lake@rcwcl1.dnet.bp.com
From: enthrall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Releases???
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:20:12 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Does anyone know if and when Disney will release their live-action musical
_Newsies_?  As I was in this, I wanted to purchase a copy <look, there *I*
am!>


Thanks,
From: ins534z@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: B&tB Sheet Music
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:59:37 GMT

I saw the sheet music book for _Beauty_and_the_Beast_ about two months ago
(about the time it reached the cinemas in Australia!), you know, the one
with all the pretty colo(u)r pictures interspersed with the occasional
musical staff :-).  Anyway, at A$36 (US$25 roughly) I was a bit reluctant to
purchase it, even with all those pretty colo(u)r pictures.

But I digress.  The title song (as sung by Mrs Potts) on the soundtrack starts
in D flat major and changes key to E flat major, which is all very nice.  The
single-song sheet music version (also a ripoff, but that's another story)
begins in E flat major and modulates to F major.  Now that's fine by me, but
in the album sheet music it starts in F major and modulates to C major!
(for non-musical types, that exclamation mark is the sort of exclamation mark
that conveys utter disbelief; glad to have got that out of the way)  This isn't
just transposition - it's just plain wrong.

Now before everyone starts up their intercontinental flame-throwers, yes I
*know* that the book is designed for those of age, or musical talent,
small enough to be confused by more than one flat or sharp in a key signature,
but before I go out and spend enormous amounts of cash, I'd like to know just
how often that happens in the book, or if there are more musically accurate
(and/or complete) versions out there that we in the third world (!) never get.

Also, I'd love to know pretty much the same things about the sheet music for
_The_Little_Mermaid_, if anyone knows about that.

Tim Pickett

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From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Crowds at Disneyland - suggestion
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:36:24 GMT
Organization: LASERAMA, usa

In article <1992Sep4.171004.5390@ncsu.edu> kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.224226.2587@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu
>(j. tinkle ) writes:
>>One suggestion I've heard for Disneyland (Anaheim, Ca.) and Magic 
>>go on Superbowl Sunday.  Apparently, some people do this every
>
>Another great day to go to Disneyland, if you don't celebrate it, is Christmas

I've gone to Disneyland on numerous Sundays in winter and have found it to
be relatively empty.  I also went Dec. 25, 1987.  While it was not too 
crowded until about 10:30am (it opened at 9am, and I'm told the ticket
booths did not open until nearly 9:15am), it was very crowded the rest
of the day and night.  Maybe Disneyland was just unusually crowded that
particular day, but I would not return on another Dec. 25.

Mark
From: rshiroma@drew.drew.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Suggestion
Date: 13 Sep 92 12:30:15 GMT
Organization: Drew University

In article <1992Sep12.175409.24212@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU>, axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:
> 
> s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto) writes:
>  >>I have a suggestion to make.... Why not make a list of the popular
>  >>mangas among all of us? Like we all get to pick 10 of our favorite
>  >>mangas... all of you mail me the list... and i update them......
> 
> I asked about a "manga rating" scheme for the r.a.m primer.  But nobody
> posted or mailed anything.  There is a system in rec.arts.movies which is
> kind of interesting.  Anyway, I think any kind of popularity poll,
> especially if it's conducted and posted regularly, would be great.

I've got the access to r.a.m. for just about two weeks, my apology if
it's discussed before...

Another idea is the manga artist poll, like Fanroad's "The Okiniiri 
Campaign".  The possibility of manga top ten is, that followers of an 
artist, say, Adachi Mitsuru or Matsumoto Izumi, may vote the list of 
the artist's work (I mean things like 1.H2, 2.Nijiiro Tougarashi, 
3.Touch...).  I think that's ok, but it can happen even if votes are 
limited to current titles.  And, if a person can vote for just one 
title, that's almost the same as the artist poll for a voter.
The way of conducting the poll would be discussed more in ram.  And I 
think the artist top ten can be done as well.

If you are interested, this is my artist top ten:
 1.	Takahashi Rumiko
 2.	Yamamoto Atsuji
 3.	V^2
 4.	Nekobe Neko
 5.	Yasunaga Kouichirou
 6.	Yano Kentarou
 7.	Ohmiya Naoi
 8.	Sagami Natsuki
 9.	Donkey
10.	Kugatsuhime
-----
W2/JH1CUV (The Embezzler)
From: 4mckenzie_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: MACROSS II Is Here!!!
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:30:04 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US


Well, here goes nothin'...
    
     Just picked up MACROSS II, and it was a pretty good adaptation by Tsuguo 
Okazaki(author and artist of JUSTY).  The art was good, and at least somethings 
were cleared up--such as the timeline of the story (eighty years after the 
MACROSS film, not the t.v. show).  It's supposed to run for ten issues.  Now if
they'd just release the fraggin' tape quickly over here...
     Also picked up BATTLE ANGEL ALITA #3.  Of course, the art was intense (and 
I mean intense!), and the fight scenes were nothing short of fantastic.  Can't 
wait to see #4.
     Any opinions?  Reply.

M. Mckenzie 
St. Peter's College

"Where'd you get the name Death?  You're just a chickenshit."
                       --Yoshihisa Tagami's GREY
From: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Looking for Transalated material
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:08:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


HI,
	I don't read this group that much so please respond via
e-mail.  Anway, I am wondering if anyone has translated Vampire
Princess Yui, or Child's Dream.  Also, if there are sites that have
this stuff that exist, could you please tell me.
Thanks,
-- 

		-Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
From: cking@clepsydramuse.rockwell.com (Christopher King)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: I recently
Date: 9 Sep 1992 20:11:15 GMT
Reply-To: cking@clepsydramuse.rockwell.com (Christopher King)
Organization: Rockwell International

In article <i34sqB6w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, gbatey@bluemoon.rn.com
(George Batey) writes:
|>read that that Dirty Pair 5, Appleseed 5, Bubblegum Crisis<Dark Horse>, 
|>and project A-ko<by who???> Were to be released into the comic stores soon 

There was a Dirty Pair 4? Was it actually released in the US? 


--
 Chris King                    |  Personally, I like my opinions too much to 
                               |  let these folks claim any knowledge of them.
 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: jasong@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: I recently
Followup-To: rec.arts.manga
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:39:01 GMT

In article <i34sqB6w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> gbatey@bluemoon.rn.com (George Batey) writes:
>read that that Dirty Pair 5, Appleseed 5, Bubblegum Crisis<Dark Horse>, 
>and project A-ko<by who???> Were to be released into the comic stores soon 
>so ive been checking my Advance Comics issues monthly but theres no sign 
>of any of them, anyone got any info on any of these titles??? Thanx
>
>s
Dirty Pair 5??? What ever happened to DP4?
-----------------------------------------------------------
Jason Gallagher:jasong@hydra.maths.unsw.edu.au

Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au (Chung Ming Liu)
Subject: BROTHER by Kazdo Koike & Seisaku Kanori ?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:35:56 GMT

Has anyone read BROTHER ? Its about cybot (created during WWII by a couple of
Hilter's scientist), sex, violent, the usual Kazdo Koike style. I've manage
to have picked up issue 2 and 3 only from a book shop,  I find it quite
interesting ! I would like to read some more, can anyone help or have 
read the later issues ? Please tell me more about it ?

Thanks

Chung Ming Liu (Samuel)
University of Wollongong, Australia.
u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au
Ayukawa.....Ayu..Kawa !
Enjoys : Manga, Anime, High Tech Toys
From: rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes Calendar '93
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Reply-To: rang@ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:47:28 GMT

In article <BuKz2A.K51@ecf.toronto.edu> hsu@ecf.toronto.edu (HSU TITUS HENG-HSUEH) writes:
>A little pamphlet that came with 3x3 Eyes book 12 says that Ko-dansha is
>putting out the '93 edition of 3x3 Eyes calendar by Takada Yuzo. The calendar
>is made to order, and the deadline for ordering is Sep.30. So if you want
>one, you'd better find someway to order it really soon...
>


Can anyone order it for me, please (the magic word)?

Thanks
Jyanken
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 13:13:21 -0400
To: el@lems.brown.edu
Cc: rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net
	on Sun, 6 Sep 92 19:25:45 EDT
Subject: Sign off
From: "Joseph Malcolm" <jmalcolm@sura.net>


>	I hope this is the way to sign off from the mail list.
>	If not, I apologize to those who are annoyed by this message.
>
>	Eric Lam.

You're off.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Subject: Re: Akira Toriyama
Reply-To: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Organization: Comspec Communications - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:28:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.manga
Keywords: Toriyama Akira
Disclaimer:  Comspec Communications knows nothing of what I write.

gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:

| ARTIGAS@EVALUN11.BITNET writes:
| 
| >     There is a real DragonBall-Mania in Spain. The anime series
| > DragonBall & DragonBall Z are an incredible succes in TV. In this
| >moment it's publishing a weekly comic-book of Dragon Ball.
| >     But , what others manga have this author?
| >           What is doing now?...
| 
| He is still doing Dragon Ball.  He is also doing DragonQuest.

Right on the first, not quite on the second.  Dragonquest:  Dai no
Daibouken is written by Sanjou Riku and drawn by Inada Kouji.  Just 
thought you might like to know...
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Moves on:  not all thy Piety nor thy Wit    |---------------------------------
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,   | UUCP:  ...uunet!mnetor!
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.    |        lsuc!comspec!mikem