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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Near Dark *spoiler* (was re: Fright Night, was re: Dracula)
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:09:01 GMT
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

In <66543@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4476a@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Alberghini) writes:
>>>Some trivia: Near Dark directed by James Cameron's wife.
>>                                                   ex
>                                                  WRONG!
>     Near Dark was directed by Kathryn Bigelow, James Cameron's wife now.


BZZZT.
Keep up Mike. Cameron and Bigelow have been splitsville for a while now.

Michael

-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
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Subject: Woody and Mia
Summary: What's the story?
Keywords: thank heaven for little girls
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:04:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug21.020451.14970
Followup-To: alt.sex
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

Please post your own creative versions of this grisly, sordid tale.
(Well, I sincerely hope that it is grisly and sordid...)

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
Founder of the North American Man-Girl Love Association
"Un de mes plus grands plaisirs est de jurer Dieu quand je bande."
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From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 06:25:21 GMT

Paulette Goddard.  Dang.


 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: fault in BACK to the FUTURE II
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:03:52 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd.: The Danes Call It Quality


rcoadh@potoroo.co.rmit.oz.AU (Alexander Doktorovich) writes:

Alexander> When Marty and Doc are in the future, the old Biff steals the
Alexander> DMC, goes to the past, gives the Sports Almanac to himself and
Alexander> arrives back.  Now, if old and younger Biffs were succesful in
Alexander> altering the future, as we saw when Marty and Doc arrived back
Alexander> to 1985, then how did the old Biff arrive back into the
Alexander> _unchanged_ future?

For the purposes of the movie, the creators took the liberty of creating
some of their own "theories" about time travel and temporal manipulation,
which they said were nothing more than fantasy ideas to help define an
internal consistency throughout the films.  One of these ideas was that
if a character interfered with original events along a timeline, s/he
would observe a "ripple effect" as the future became altered; that is,
the changes would happen gradually, making their way down the timeline at
a constant rate.  Thus, if you're quick enough, you could jump forward to
the unchanged future before the alteration would reach it -- and this is
what happened to Old Biff.  Had he waited longer in 1955 before coming
back to 2015, the ripple effect would've beaten him and he would've 
arrived at an alternate 2015.

As to how much *sense* this makes is another story; but this is what
Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale have offered as an explanation based on their
own ideas fabricated for the trilogy.


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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: American titles of foreign films (was: Manon of the Spring )
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:56:32 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Aug11.114836.2202@ifi.unizh.ch>, by hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner):
> Der Himmel ueber Berlin --> Wings of Desire  ( the English title is much more
> poetic than the sober German original )

Sorry, but I disagree totally.  The subtlety is exactly that "Himmel"
means both "heaven" and "sky".  Very hard to translate, so it's
understandable they took something different, but "Wings of Desire" is
really uninspired.  
-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
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From: fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j.a. fielden)
Subject: Re: Freshman Smarm
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:59:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.163806.24345@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>
>
>Did anyone happen to see "Freshman Dorm" last nite? Were there any stereotypes
>they might have missed? Oh, I know: The overweight boy/girl who is outwardly
>a clown but inwardly tortured.
>I can't wait till they do their "topical" shows on Teenage (tm) Alcoholism,
>Anorexia/Bulemia, and Safe Sex Lectureshows.
>Makes (S)Mellrose Place look like a documentary.
>Nice babes tho.
>
>
>                            R ****
>                             I
>                              C
>                          **** K	
>

 And don't forget the sorority stereotypes. You know the rush party
where she's told to drop her roomate or she may not be asked back.
And then she's left alone at the party. yeah right.
 

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From: stailey@snoopy.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:38:45 GMT


Gary Bradley writes...

* I know that! That's why I said "inspired" fiction. However, Vlad
* Tepes (Vlad the Impaler) was NO vampire, just a cruel military leader to
* liked to impale his enemies on large spikes.

  And drink the blood of his victims... that is where the vampire
  reference comes from. There was an interesting documentary on PBS
  awhile back that explored the topic.

  BTW, an interesting side-note... Paul Harvey did a "Rest of the Story"
  segment on Bram Stoker... and apparently "Dracula" was in part an
  autobiography. The man must have led an interesting life!


  --
  Michael                      
  stailey@comm.mot.com     

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From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: best war movies
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:53:02 GMT

I have heard that Mailer's Naked and the Dead, my all time favorite War 
Novel was made into a movie. anyone ever see it? was it any good?

And speaking of war movies... I liked King Rat too...

rlwilliams@gallua
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: unforgiven (was re: u
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:39:30 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

DC>   Overall, I'll rent the video when it comes out.  But I wouldn't buy
DC>it.   Now, "Pale Rider," or "The Outlaw Josey Wales," well, THERE'S
DC>another story. . . .

     If you liked "Pale Rider," did you ever see "Shane?"
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From: bfriesne@AFIT.AF.MIL (Brian C. Friesner)
Subject: quiz
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Distribution: rec.arts.movies
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:34:42 GMT

Name the movie that is the source of each quote.

1)  "Better get used to these bars, kid."

2)  "How 'bout a ride, mister?"

3)  "Watchin' a little TV for a change?"

4)  "I said I'd like to go back to the beginning of the season.
        Put some money on the Cubbies."

5)  "Eastwood....Clint Eastwood."

6)  "Not too early. I sleep in Sundays."

7)  "Mom, you sure can hydrate a pizza."

8)  "What was it, George? Birdwatching?"

9)  "We'll get to see our wedding!"
    "Wow."
    "I'll get to see my wedding dress!"
    "Wow."

10)  "Why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here."
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: With cuts restored: Dune
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:58:16 GMT

In article <MeWd5HK00Uh_Q374su@andrew.cmu.edu>, Peter Yung Chang <pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...

} Last weekend I turned on the Fox channel here and caught Dune. It turned
} out to be what I think is a Director's Edition.
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If there's ever a case in which something is *NOT* a "Director's Edition",
this is it. The director, David Lynch, did not work on this expanded
version, indeed didn't even want to have anything to do with this expanded
version, and in fact, had his name *removed* (as both director *and*
writer) from this expanded version.

"Director's edition[/cut]" is not synonymous with "more footage".

} I think it's a MUCH better version than the one currently available
} in videostores.

I think it's just as bad, only there's more of it.

} Any idea how I can get a hold of it?

It's not commercially available. If you want it, you'll have to wait
until it comes on TV again and tape it.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Kim Basinger
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:11:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.083244.28646@cs.joensuu.fi> jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen) writes:
>egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>
>>Mannequin 3: The Return.  Bassinger plays a inflatable doll that
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Really? How ironic...

Actually, I haven't the faintest idea what Ms. Bassinger is doing next.
I was just being punchy.



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From: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: REBECCA
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:44:52 GMT

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:

>In <1992Aug13.051905.11195@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
> 
>>This is a great film (Hitchcock's best IMHO) and the disc only makes the 
>>experience better. Leff has tons of information about the film. Both the
>>Criterion CAV laserdisc and the film are highly recomended.
> 

   I think that Rebecca is one film of which it can be said that if you
haven't seen it in a theatrical screening in a good print, you really
haven't seen it at all.  Shadow of a Doubt is another such.  These films
can almost be seen as studies in light and shadow, and many of their
exceptionally subtle lighting effects simply aren't observable on the
boob tube screen.

   On a related note, a friend of mine recently told me that he had just
seen Psycho for the first time.  I started talking about the
superimposed image of the corpse which flashes over Anthony Perkins face
at the end, and remarked that I thought it was probably the shortest
single shot ever included in a commercial film.  He didn't know what I
was talking about:  he had seen a video of Psycho, and didn't even
notice that shot. 

   (Yes I'm a total snob about teevee/video, and damned proud of it!)
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: super mario (was re:
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:34:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.1489.25967@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>PR>There's something like this in Variety.  Every week, five anonymous
>PR>Hollywood insiders (executives, agents, lawyers, publicity people, etc.)
>PR>predict the opening gross and final gross of a film that's about to come
>PR>out.  
>
>     Of course, the Hollywood people quoted in "Variety" are part of the
>     crew responsible for making and marketing that particular film, and
>     they'll do anything to make sure it makes as much money as possible -

I don't think so.  I believe they choose people not associated with the
film in question.  Of course, since they don't identify them, who can
tell, but sometimes their estimates are extremely low and they say
the film will bomb - not likely if they were associated with the film.
For instance, one of the people from last week's predicted a pretty
low gross for "Unforgiven", saying something like "Maybe it's a great
film, but it's a Western and no one will care".  (The opening weekend
grosses, revised to $15 million, suggest that guy was wrong.)

>     Here are the comments
>     and predictions this week, on the movie "Buffie The Vampire Slayer:"
>
>     Agent - $50 million
>     Exhib - $45 million
>     Studio exec - $30 million
>     Producer - $55 million
>     Attorney - $45 million

Not a totally unreasonable set of guesses.  $30 million might be only a
little high, in the end.  The others will clearly be very high, but there 
was strong feeling, before the film came out, that it might be a moderate hit.
Lots of folks felt it was a clever idea likely to appeal to audiences,
and it had a good ad campaign.  I know a lot of people who thought it
might be a fun film, and were planning to see it.  If it had been as good 
as it could have been, and had hit an audience chord, $55 million was 
certainly possible.  (In retrospect, opening it against "Death Becomes 
Her" was a mistake, as the two films were a bit too much alike, and 
the bigger budget and stars of "Death Becomes Her" were likely to 
draw attention from the smaller film.)

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: Van Damme and AWOL
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:32:00 GMT

tonlun@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Tony Lundstedt) writes:

>I just looked through a vidmag from UK. I saw a film with Van Damme called
>A.W.O.L. I wonder if that is the same as Lionhart, as it was called here in
>Sweden. The story:
>Brother gets burnt up by drugdealers. The Kicker is in the foreign leigon. 
>He 'escapes' when he learns about the brothers fate. He tries to help 
>the bother's wife and kid. Bad guys hunt Van Damme who fights och kicks in
>fights for a rich 'lady'. And everyone lives happy for the rest of their lives.

>Is that the same movie? Here in Sweden does the movie distributers change the
>english title to a new english title to make it more exiting.

I know that the film you are talking about was released here as
_Wrong Bet_, in Australia that is.  I havent heard of a film called AWOL
by Van Damme, so I
cant help you there.

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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu
(Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
|>The TV Guide has an article this week about "zapping".
|>In other words, channel scanning. 
|>At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
|>me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
|>me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!
|>
|>  
       
   Well we tend to refer to it as the "thingy" accompanied by
appropriate hand gestures as if operating an invisible "thingy".

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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:24:44 GMT

In <schuck.713340884@sfu.ca> schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

>Did you mean "Cross of Iron" directed by Sam Peckinpah?

>If so, I'll vote for that one. What an incredible movie about a squad
>of Germans on the Russian Front in WWII.

ooops - yep, that's the one I meant.  If anyone's only seen it on
TV, run out and rent the uncut version - whole scenes are literally
lifted in order to make it passably acceptable pablum. 

I *heard* there was a sequel someplace, but that it wasn't worth
searching out....

gary cooper (not the dead one)
unemployed and damn happy about it (but I only quit 5 hours ago.....) 
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From: agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama Chathampally - co-op)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:22:25 GMT

>
>Actually,Soon-Yi is a good looking nice developed young female.
>I would get attracted to her too if I was hanging out with a bitch like
>Mia who will stop at nothing to get the custody of the kids.
>She'll probably do the tabloid TV circuit and TV talk show route any
>second now.
> 

Mia Farrow has always guarded her privacy just as closely as Woody Allen.
Besides, he is the one filing the custody suit and not her. So he is the one
who started this whole scandal.  I think that him wanting custody of the kids
is utterly ridiculous. He has stated several times that his work comes before 
everything and that he has no time to be a parent in the conventional way.
Also, all of Mia's kids are a family, ripping away three of the children from
their home and siblings is not in the best interest of the kids.  I don't know
what is going on in Allen's mind but I doubt he has their best interest in mind.And what basis do you have for characterizing Mia Farrow  as a b***h ??  Do
you have the courage to adopt children no one else wants???
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:41:18 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:

> I don't get this. Vlad the Impaler and Count Dracula have absolutely no
> connection between them at all, except (possibly) christian names. 

Excuse me?  Stoker took a lot of his inspiration for _Dracula_ from Vlad
The Impaler.  That's a pretty significant connection, if you ask me.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Subject: The Three Stooges
Summary: "You Natzy Spy"
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:26:50 GMT

NYUK NYUK NYUK!!!

Incidently, on a recent NPR broadcast I heard that the Three Stooges movie
short "You Natzy Spy" (not Chaplin's "The Great Dictator") was cited by a
film historian as being the very _first_ film to parody the NAZI party in
Germany.  It was interesting to hear them talk about "The Three Stooges" in
such a serious manner.  He also said that the three stooges were all jewish,
which I had never really known before...
 
Ben.

-- 
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bew@brahms.udel.edu

               What we got here is a failure to communicate... 
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Frankenstein, the true story
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:35:43 GMT

In article <kuehnel.713792504@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE> kuehnel@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hans Kuehnel) writes:
>Hello again,
>
>here is the summary I promised. I had better read the Encyclopaedia Britannica
>befor my original request here. 
>> please excuse my ingnorance, but: What is the name of the novel/tale
>> behind the Frankenstein movies? And is there a true story behind this
>> novel? 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>The summary:
>Basis for the films was the novel "Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus"
>written in 1818 (in Geneva ?) by Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley (1797-1851), 
>wife of poet Percy Bysshe Shelley.
>
>> The novel "Frankenstein" was written by Mary Shelley in the early
>> 1800's.  One evening, she and her circle of friends (including her
>> husband the poet Percy Bysshe Shelley) decided to entertain each other
>> by composing ghost stories.  

The other members of the circle were Lord Byron, probably the best known
British poet of his generation, and Doctor Polidori, a Byron hanger-on
with literary ambitions.  (Byron was an early believer in the modern 
celebrity concept of an entourage.)  As I remember it, only Mary Shelley 
and Polidori actually followed through and wrote their ghost stories,
which is interesting, since the other two were the professional writers.

On a movie-related note, there are two films about this circle.  One,
previously mentioned, is Ken Russell's "Gothic", shot as if not only
all the characters, but Russell himself, had taken a few too many
drops of laudinum.  If so, it's another example of the maxim that works
of art made by artists while under the influence of drugs are neither
as interesting nor as original as the artists believe.  The other film 
is "Haunted Summer", starring Eric Stolz, among others.  (Directed, I 
believe, by Karel Reisz.)  I started watching it on cable, and found it 
too dull to continue.

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