From: jack@rml.UUCP (jack hagerty)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
Subject: Re: MRTI (tm)
Date: 24 Jan 93 07:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: jack@rml.UUCP (jack hagerty)
Organization: Robotic Midwives, Ltd.

In article <19930122095227.Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu> Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu (Roger Wilfong) writes:
>In Article <634@rml.UUCP> "jack@rml.UUCP (jack hagerty)" says:
>> 
>>  [Busy slamming Douglas Kirk, M.S. (tm)]

>> My tirade was almost universally ingnored by this group. Whatsa 
>> matter, can't be bothered by such small fry?
> 
>I didn't ignore it, I threw fuel on the fire (sorry, make that flammable 
>solids - if reloads are as fire proof as this group has been, DOT shouldn't 
>be concerned).

Well, I *did* say "almost."
 
>As a requirement for testing a company's products, the company must supply 
>five (5) of each kit to be tested, plus motors, plus a launch pad, plus a 
>launch controller.  Five of each kit - that is as more than most hobby shop 
>orders.

What a great scam. I wonder why he isn't more successful? :^)  

>> Does dipping an ignitor in plastic 
>> and firing it under water determine how well it can ignite a rocket motor?
> 
>Don't you dip your rockets in plastic and launch them from under water?  
>You're missing out on valuable mission point on that scale Trident.  :-)

Hey! How'd you know I was working on a Trident model? Really! A Trident II
(and I don't mean the "Bident" that Estes is currently selling) the Navy
FBM. It'll be about 1/10 scale (41" tall and 7.4" dia).
>> 
>> The thing that still gnaws at me is that this guy is passing himself off
>> as an athority, and his "research" will probably be taken as gospel by
>> the Grammar/High School age crowd which is still the main target of the
>> NAR educational programs.  
> 
>I have to agree with you.  Albeit uncomfortably.  I really don't like to 
>complain about others contributions to the magazine, when I haven't made 
>any contributions.  Shoot Peter keeps bugging me to write up my "TwOnyx" and 
>camera payload for T-minus-5.

Well, I *have* contributed to the magazine and intend to keep doing so (it's
fun, but time consuming) but I don't know if that gives me a licence to
take shots at other people. I will, however, try to keep the main mouthpiece
for our hobby from sinking into the morass of mediocrity that comes from
simply printing anything that comes in.

BTW, maybe I should give High Schoolers more credit. At this morning's launch 
of the as-yet-unnamed Livermore Rocket Club, the subject of ignitors came 
up in conversation. I heard several high school age members comment "Did you 
see the article in AmSpam? Boy, was that dumb!"

There's still hope!

- Jack

P.S.  How about a short summary of your camera payload for the FAQ?

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