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From: censjg@caledonias3.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Simon Greaves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: RT hardware help
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:41:34 GMT
Followup-To: censjg@clust.hw.ac.uk
Organization: Heriot-Watt University

Hi,

I have just got hold of most of an IBM RT 125 (6150) and I need help, information and even some hardware....

The system is a Landmark Graphics system, comprising:
	RT Advanced Processor Board
	2x4Mb fast memory boards
	SCSI interface
	Micom interlan NP600A-3 ethernet adaptor
	2xImagraph L10AGC1210-10P video(?) adaptor cards, 1 linked to
	Imagraph Sega layer 6 card with NSI Logic daughter board
	Wietek 300-0046-00 with 3002-0047-00 daughter card (?)

The system has 3 internal hard drives (310Mb each I think) and the obligatory floppy drive. The system came with two Sony Trinitron GDM-1950 monitors and an enormous rack box containing yet more hard disks, a 9 track tape and an optical disk drive for huge read/write optical disks.

However, there is *NO* keyboard, *NO* mouse, *NO* cables & *NO* documentation. I have switched the box on & it runs through it's self tests on the small led with no apparent problem, then sits quite happily humming away, but I can't tell what's really happenning without a keyboard and a monitor cable. 

I can get hold of an old IBM PC keyboard, but it has a 9 pin DIN plug connector rather than the RT type, are the keyboards compatible if I change the plug? does anyone have the pinouts for the mouse, kbd & serial ports? Better yet, does anyone have unwanted RT keyboard & mouse I can buy (cheap + carriage)?

I also need to know cable spec's for the Imagraph card->GDM1950. 
The monitors have 5 BNC connectors; R, G, B, HD & VD, the last two being 		sync in connections. 

The Imagraph L10AGC1210-10P cards each have 9pin female D type 	connectors

The Imagraph Sega Layer card (to which one of the Imagraph L10* cards is linked via a short ribbon cable) has a 9 pin female D type and a 25 pin female D type connector, none of which are labelled.

I have no idea what the wietek card is or what it does.

In summary:
	1) does anyone know the (monitor etc) cable spec for this system?
	2) Can I use a standard PC keyboard, and if so how do I convert from 5 			   pin DIN to RT 6 pin square? Can I convert Logitech mouse (Logimouse 			   P7) with 9 pin D type to RT 6 way?
	3) Does anyone have surplus RT keyboard & mouse?
	4) What is the pinout for the serial ports s1 & s2?
	5) Does anyone know of a Landmark Graphics Corporation contact?
	6) What is AOS 4.3 or 4.3/RT?
	7) Anyone tell me anything else about this system?

Massively grateful for any help/comments, please feel free to mail me direct, (it's a bit easier for me that way), or via NEWS...

Simon
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From: sean@chern.msri.org (Sean Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: RT stuff for sale
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Date: 11 Sep 1992 01:32:04 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.188.52

For sale: IBM Pageprinter
for use with IBM RT
with 3 new tonor drums and one mostly full tonor drum in printer.
with font disk and cable.
I have a broken RT that may have the card, or it may be a video card.
the model number is 3812 2
$550
I also have some mice and a keyboard for RT's.
Also a moniterm monitor, 19", with cable.  $100
it's either b&w or grayscale.
Please respond to this account, sean@msri.org
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot)
Subject: gigadisk tower (Help)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:43:16 GMT

hello,

I have an RT 135 running AIX 2.2.1 (AOS isn't free is it? *sigh*).

I also have something I am told is called a GigaDisk system.
This is a large box which holds 4 8" 1 GB SCSI hard disks. (did I mention
the RT has three (yes 3) internal 360 Mb disks).

I also have a (long long) SCSI cable and a disk which claims to have drivers
for the gigadisk, but have been unable to make things work (driver disk
complains and then exits).

I have not taken the effort to be more specific because first I just want
to know:

Has anyone ever heard of one of these things? There are dip switches all
over the place (a slight exageration). I don't know where to start.

a lead would be greatly appreciated, as I am anxious to start using this
storage :-)

Dwayne Fontenot

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: dmuntz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Daniel A Muntz)
Subject: Re: RT hardware help
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:17:49 GMT

In article <1468@airgun.wg.waii.com> markw@airgun.wg.waii.com (Mark Whetzel) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.124134.21598@cs.hw.ac.uk>,
>   censjg@caledonias3.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Simon Greaves) writes (in part):
>> 	2) Can I use a standard PC keyboard, and if so how do I convert from 5
>>           pin DIN to RT 6 pin square? Can I convert Logitech mouse
>>           (Logimouse P7) with 9 pin D type to RT 6 way?
>
>Here is the pinout on the Keyboard,  Don't know if the scancodes are
>anywhere near the same, but this came from the IBM Tech Ref Vol I, page 9-23
>

Unfortunately, the scan codes don't match up.
 
  -Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
From: bob@acca.nmsu.edu (The brave Tauther)
Subject: Info on BSD unix on RT
Summary: does a bsd unix exist for the ibm-rt?
Keywords: bsd, !aix, unix, existance
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:09:01 GMT

Hello. I have heard that there exists a version of BSD 4.2 or 4.3 for
the ibm RT. My source even claimed that ibm was distrubting it as
"unsupported" (back when the rt was 'the' machine). Has anyone heard of
this? Does anyone know where it might be located? Is it free? Thanks
for any help/pointers you can provide.

bob
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From: markw@airgun.wg.waii.com (Mark Whetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Re: RT hardware help
Summary: pinout for keyboard and mouse on IBM RT
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:39:10 GMT
Organization: Western Geophysical, Div. of Western Atlas Int'l, Houston, TX

In article <1992Sep7.124134.21598@cs.hw.ac.uk>,
   censjg@caledonias3.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Simon Greaves) writes (in part):
> However, there is *NO* keyboard, *NO* mouse, *NO* cables & *NO* documentation.
> 
> I can get hold of an old IBM PC keyboard, but it has a 9 pin DIN plug
> connector rather than the RT type, are the keyboards compatible if I
> change the plug?
> Does anyone have the pinouts for the mouse, kbd & serial ports?

> In summary:
> 	2) Can I use a standard PC keyboard, and if so how do I convert from 5
>           pin DIN to RT 6 pin square? Can I convert Logitech mouse
>           (Logimouse P7) with 9 pin D type to RT 6 way?

Here is the pinout on the Keyboard,  Don't know if the scancodes are
anywhere near the same, but this came from the IBM Tech Ref Vol I, page 9-23

   -------------
   |           |       pin 1 =  + 5 Volts
   |   5 3 1   |       pin 2 =  Data
   --        --        pin 3 =  Speaker
     | 6 4 2 |         pin 4 =  Speaker
     |       |         pin 5 =  Ground
     ---------         pin 6 =  Clock


The book has a big chart of scan codes and key function output codes,
larger that I want to post and type, but I am not sure how they compare to
a PC keyboard, if at all.

Locator  (mouse or tablet)

   -------------
   |           |       pin 1 =  Ground
   |   5 3 1   |       pin 2 =  Transmit
   --        --        pin 3 =  + 12 Vdc
     | 6 4 2 |         pin 4 =  - 12 Vdc
     |       |         pin 5 =  + 5  Vdc
     ---------         pin 6 =  Receive

Programmable in 25,50, 100, 200 counts per inch  default = 100
Protocol RS232C 9600 Baud async Fullduplex stopbit = 1, odd parity

at reset sends a special 4 byte report sequence 0xFF080000

Stream mode, has a loopback mode,  report function stream is:
  Byte 1  always = 0x0B
  Byte 2  bit 0    1 = right button pressed
          bit 1    always 0
          bit 2    1 = left button pressed
          bit 3,4  always = 00
          bit 5   X data sign  1 = negative
          bit 6   Y data sign  1 = negative
          bit 7    always 0
  Byte 3  bits 0-6  X data   bit 6=LSB
	  bit 7    always 0
  Byte 4  bits 0-6  Y data   bit 6=LSB
	  bit 7    always 0

How this fits a PC mouse I don't know, but every bit of info can 
help when putting things back together.

This info came from an IBM BOOK SA23-2610-0 IBM RT PC Hardware Tech. Ref.

Cheers.. and good luck
markw
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm-pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: stankus@leland.Stanford.EDU (John J. Stankus)
Subject: Re: Reference software
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:03:37 GMT

In article <gegCBcK00iUz44b65A@andrew.cmu.edu> Seth Adam Eliot <se08+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Does anybody know of any software (preferable windows 3.1 application)
>that keeps track of a database of references (as in a technical paper)
>and inserts them into your word processing document (WinWord 2.0 in my
>case).
>
>There is a program for the Mac called 'Endnote', there should be one for
>the PC.
>
>The best I've been able to do so far is use a Reference Database (like
>JEPRS) and a Winword macro together, but this still involves quite a bit
>of "manual" labor.
>
>-Seth
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>"We... have no use for adventures.  Nasty disturbing uncomfortable
>things!  Make you late for dinner!"  -- B. Baggins 
>
>Seth Eliot,            Dept of Material Science and Engineering
>                       Carnegie Mellon Univerity,   Pittsburgh, PA
>ARPA    :eliot+@cmu.edu            --------------------------------------
>   or    se08+@andrew.cmu.edu
>Bitnet:  se08%andrew@cmccvb        
>---------------------------------
>

Niles and Assocciates have a version of endnote for the pc.  They also
have an Endnote Plus version which lets you read Word for windows format
files without first converting them to *.rtf format.

their address is Niles&Associates INC
		2000 Hearst St SUite 200
		Berkeley, CA  94709
		Tel 510 649 8176
		fax 510 649 8179



John J. Stankus
stankus@leland.stanford.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Re: Links
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.misc
Summary: Multiple links not supported in DOS filesystem
Keywords: filesystem links DOS
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:57:34 GMT

In article <Bu4yFL.2KH@belay> fournes@belay writes:
>I don't know if this is the right group to post this to, but...
>
>Can anyone tell me if, under MSDOS, would it be possible to program
>in file links like under Unix (with the ln command)?  ... and if so,
>if there's a program/utility out there the does such a thing?
...

NOTE: Originally posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.  Followups redirected to
      comp.os.msdos.misc.

It is essentially impossible for the DOS filesystem to support hard
links, ala the UNIX "ln" command.  It is perfectly possible to set up
any number of links to the same cluster chain (i.e., the actual file),
but there is nowhere to indicate that these multiple links are
intentional, and any filesystem checking utility will detect these as
"cross-linked files" and consider them errors.

The UNIX filesystem contains an additional control block, the INODE,
for each file. It provides a single place to store file attributes,
including, in the case, the all-important "link count," indicating the
number of directory entries that point to this file.  DOS has no
equivalent, and stores information about the file in the directory
entry itself.  This information includes file size, time of last
modification, and various flags.  If, in a DOS filesystem, multiple
directory entries were allowed to point to the same file, this
information would then be replicated in an unknown number of locations,
and any time the status of a file changed, the OS would have to incur
the inordinate burden of searching through all directories and updating
any entries that pointed to this same file.

Under DOS, it would actually be a much smaller change to the filesystem
to implement the BSD UNIX "symbolic link" capability, a symbolic link
being just a tiny file which contains the pathname to the real file and
is so flagged, allowing the operating system to "follow the link"
automatically when the link is accesses.  Although symbolic links are
more flexible than hard links, there are some disadvantages:

    1.	If the actual file is erased or renamed, the links are left
	hanging, pointing to nothing.

    2.  In the UNIX implementation, at least, a link is a tiny file, and
	a large DOS filesystem stores tiny files very inefficiently.

Of course, hard links have their disadvantages too.  (Oops, my
filesystem is full!  Well I'll erase this big file that I don't need.
Hmmm, the filesystem is still full.  Now where do you suppose all the
other links to that file might be hiding?)  However, it is not my
intention here to get into a discussion of their relative merits.  Both
types have their uses.

Bob Nichols
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
Organization: Doctoral student, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm-pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:20:24 -0400 
From: Seth Adam Eliot <se08+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Reference software

Does anybody know of any software (preferable windows 3.1 application)
that keeps track of a database of references (as in a technical paper)
and inserts them into your word processing document (WinWord 2.0 in my
case).

There is a program for the Mac called 'Endnote', there should be one for
the PC.

The best I've been able to do so far is use a Reference Database (like
JEPRS) and a Winword macro together, but this still involves quite a bit
of "manual" labor.

-Seth


__________________________________________________________________________
"We... have no use for adventures.  Nasty disturbing uncomfortable
things!  Make you late for dinner!"  -- B. Baggins 

Seth Eliot,            Dept of Material Science and Engineering
                       Carnegie Mellon Univerity,   Pittsburgh, PA
ARPA    :eliot+@cmu.edu            --------------------------------------
   or    se08+@andrew.cmu.edu
Bitnet:  se08%andrew@cmccvb        
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From: msains@ibis.ru.ac.za (Malcolm Sainsbury)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Can I Intercept Stuff Going To A Printer Into A file.??
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:09:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: ibis.msains.20.716396999
Organization: BIS Department, Rhodes University

In article <1992Sep10.023143.1711@cbnewse.cb.att.com> hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen) writes:
>I have an application that prints out data from a very old DB system.
>I need to get the output of a list from the database in a flat file.
>Is there aneasy way for me to intercept the stuff going to the printer
>and route it to go to a file.

Try a program on SIMTEL (VPRNT301.ARC) in the msdos.printer directory.

Regards,

Malcolm
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From: hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:14:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep10.052148.10777@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
>compiler package, that there is no source control system.
>
>Currently, the full package has every conceivable feature you could want
>except source control and OS/2 support [oops, wrong winge]. The only

And 32-bit code generation, and a DOS extender (32-bit would be nice, 16-bit
would be OK, the Phar Lap "Lite" they included with the upgrade was a table
scrap, and a shameless example of commercial crippleware), and probably a few
other things I can't think of right now.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: msmith%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Matthew Smith)
Subject: Re: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:54:43 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Sep4.213550.13151@pollux.lu.se> lars_s@gemini.ldc.lu.se writes:
>I'm using Borland C++ version 3.0 in large memory model and are trying to 
>link a couple of modules. I got this message from TLINK:
>
>     Error: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K
>
>Tools and Utilities Guide says: 
>A group exceeded 64K bytes when the segments of the group wwere combined.
>
>Any hint or workaround to solve my problem are appreciated.

Are you using C++ specific code?  If so, you can use the -Vf switch for BCC,
or look for a switch in the IDE which moves the C++ virtual tables out of 
the data segment.  

Basically, this error means that your global variable area has exceeded 64k.
Evidently, Borland puts their virtual tables (or at least some information 
concerning them) into this segment.  

>Thanks in advance,
>    Lars
>--------------------------
>Lars.Sigebo@ldc.lu.se
>Lund University Computing Center, Sweden


Matt Smith
msmith@peruvian.utah.edu
Student - University of Utah Department of Computer Science
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Why no source control in Borland
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:21:48 GMT

It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
compiler package, that there is no source control system.

Currently, the full package has every conceivable feature you could want
except source control and OS/2 support [oops, wrong winge]. The only
inkling of this is .prj files but they only keep source files together and
do not maintain revisions.

Of course it is not difficult to use a 3rd party system such as GNU RCS but
it would be a huge improvement if we had such functionality as part of the
IDE.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:51:39 GMT

lars_s@gemini.ldc.lu.se (Lars Sigebo) writes:
>I'm using Borland C++ version 3.0 in large memory model and are trying to 
>link a couple of modules. I got this message from TLINK:

>     Error: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K

Move your "static" declarations in functions out to the top level of
the file, from:

main()
{
	static int big[30000];
	/* lotsa stuff */
}

to 

static int big[30000];
main()
{
	/* lotsa stuff */
}

The same thing happens under Microsloth C.  Pain in the ass, and nasty
for scoping, but Intel real mode is Intel real mode...
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From: tannerr@CS.ORST.EDU (Ryan Tanner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:13:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep10.221352.18926
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept
Originator: tannerr@storm.CS.ORST.EDU

pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel) writes:

>In article <1992Sep10.052148.10777@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>>It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
>>compiler package, that there is no source control system.
>>

>Borland recently bought out Brief (a well known editor).  If they also
>bought the rest of Solution Systems' products, that would include a
>source control system (Sorcerer's Apprentice?).  Perhaps we can look
>forwared to better editors and a scs in their future programming
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>environments of Pascal and C++.

Well, looks like Borland is selling Brief seperately from their programming
packages.  They may do the same with any scs's they may aquire.  Or maybe
they'll add one to the Borland C++ packages to up the ante.

Ryan (tannerr@prism.cs.orst.edu)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
From: thor@arrakis.denver.co.us (Robert B. Hood)
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Organization: Bob's Programming Paradise, Lakewood, CO, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:25:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.052148.10777@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
>compiler package, that there is no source control system.
>

I just found out (much to my suprise because we just purchased
it) at a programmer's breakfast with the local rep that Borland
has now aquired Sourcerer's Apprentice from Solution Systems
(the Brief - er, ex-Brief people: Borland owns Brief now as well).

And I thought Computer Associates was bad...

Bob
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