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From: kelsey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Chris Kelsey)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: writer's lurking (SOs)???
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:24:08 GMT

In article <kuook9INN88p@spim.mips.com> beth@mips.com (Beth Van Eman) writes:
in response to <1992Apr15.061224.16395@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> 
kelsey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Chris Kelsey):
{
[Regarding the term "Better Half"...]

>>sorry, beth -- this is an oldie moldie getting resurrected...  it's been
>>around at least since the 50's...   was used by wives (seriously?!?)
>>to refer to "hubby" (at least in public!); sarcastically by men in front
>>of their wives.  check out some movies, and newspaper cartoons, of the 
>>times... or ask anyone over 30.  having opal use the term is perfect!
>
>But, but, but, I *am* over 30! :-)   What I really meant was, I haven't
>heard "real" people use this term.   I thought someone on the net here
>made a joke about it (because it sometimes stands for Butt Head), and
>we all just continued to use it.    Like I said though, maybe it depends
>on what crowd you run with. :-)

i like to think the transformation from "better half" to "butt head" is
really the term coming full circle! ;)  i remember it from some of my 
parents friends, at "cocktail parties" -- hardly "real" mode!  (note: 
this was a crowd such that my father took me aside once and told me that 
if i didn't learn to play golf, i'd never catch a "good" husband... ;)) )

[and regarding "Significant Other"]

>>SO is late 60's/early 70's, when the term was coined to identify the 
>>relationship between cohabitating but not married (gasp! shock!) couples.

>  I think he sometimes refers to me as his
>"co-mortgagee" but I find that a tongue-twister. :-)   We're so romantic... 

hey, at least it reeks of commitment (to the bank, anyway... ;) )

-- chris "never did quite learn to putt..." kelsey
.
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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: Re: AW: update 4-9
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:12:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.192949.25874@ralph.lafayette.la.us> rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman) writes:
>Olivia tells Dennis that he's the father.  He asks what's next, but
>she tells him about the plan to let "a nice family" adopt the baby.
>Dennis is fairly agreeable.  Just as Olivia is about to leave Iris
>comes in and hears the "good" news.  She blows up.
>
>Marley comes to see Dennis.  He mentions that he'll be a daddy.  She
>questions him and he tells her that Olivia's baby is his not Sams.
>Marley is shocked to say the least. [freeze frame]
>

Finally, Olivia did something right. Even though I don't like the actors
playing Marley and Dennis, I'm beginning to enjoy the story.

>Olivia goes to tell Sam.  He finally lets her finish and he,
>justifably, blows his top.  She tells him the whole story (leaving out
>who the father is, and who will adopt the baby).  Sam tells her the
>score is even (they both are hurting) and he doesn't want to see her
>again, don't come here, don't call, don't even say my name again.

It's about time that Sam showed some spunk, apparently he has to be hit
in the face by a cement wall. This is the first time I thought his acting
was good. He should have thrown Olivia out the window - not hurting the
baby of course.

>
>There is a great confrontation between Felicia and Lorna.  Lorna is to

I'm glad they are using Lorna and Felicia more. I felt that the shows the
last few days were very good. AW usually takes forever to come to a climax
of a story. In the last couple of shows we find out who is the father
of Olivia's baby, Olivia confronts Sam and Dennis, Marley finds out that
Dennis is the father, Lucas confronts Cass, Cass denies a relationship
with Jenna's father and Frankie comes home. In the past, all this would
have taken 6 months or more.

>
>Ryan brings home a bunch of garbage to sort through for his case.

I can't blame Vicki about this one. I wouldn't want anybody to open
a big bag of garbage in my living room. I know Ryan is trying to
make a point, but this would make anyone cringe - not only Vicki.

>
>Ryan talks to Billy who is only slightly hurt.  Billy tells him family
>is everything and he should settle things between he and Grant.

This was a good scene between Ryan and Billy. They should use Billy
more often. At first I didn't know who Billy was.

John
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: Hayley and Brian
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:28:12 GMT

In article <92104.134515SECBU@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> SECBU@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>>him boinking AnLi.  Could someone fill me in on what happened?!

>He tried to tell her, but she kept cutting him off telling
>him she understands, and she knows he loves her and no
>An Li so he doesn't need to explain anything.... etc. etc.
>Of course, he chickened out and didn't tell her.

Hey Sharon, you left out one part! Brian also told AnLi, when
she threatened to tell Halo) that if she did he would HATE her!
:-) She gave it another thought after that....:-) and backed
off.

>wouldn't it be more efficient to have An Li get the Em Ann
>syndrome.  Think she is prego and turn's out she is lying??
>Now there could be a good juicy storyline for us, as well
>as a convenient way to breakup An Li and Brian for good.

That is the same as the Dotty and Tad story....:-) 
           _____     /|_______   
          / __  \   / ||___  |  Help, I'm in a Well and
         / /  )_/  /  |   / /   I can't get out!!!!!!
        / /    __ / | |  / /    Baby, save up all your tears,
        \ \___/ // /| | / /___  you might need them someday....
         \_____// ___ ||______|
               /_/  | |___
                    |____/ zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu
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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Yet another TAN (was Re: DOOL:  Maternal instinct)
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:41:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.034706.18576@chpc.utexas.edu> peea224@chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.141457.10895@den.mmc.com> snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell) writes:
>> [Talk about John/Isabella/Dani deception deleted]
>>
>>-Cindy (Pickle)  PEEL
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Hey!!!  I just noticed...isn't the name of one of the actresses who 
>used to be on St. Elsewhere (can't remember the character's name -- she
>was a nurse) and recently guest starred on LA Law (as a chef) named 
>Cynthia Pickles?  Huh?  Hmmmm....
>
>Joanna.
>
 
Oh no,my secret has been found out!  I once was a nurse on St. Elsewhere
and played a Chef on LA LAW.  I also had a child with a man that I now hate, 
but my little boy only lived for an hour after his birth.  He was born with 
water on his brain (I can't spell the technical term).  I have dealt with my
past and have only occasional recurring nightmares about passing out from
the amaryllis scent in the garden of the convent where I lived after I became
pregnant from the man who lied to me about who he was.  I have also did a stint
as a Playboy centerfold.  I have recently changed my life for the better.  I 
changed my name from Cynthia Pickle to Cindy (Pickle) Peel and I moved to 
Colorado. I went back to college and graduated with an engineering 
degree and now work for a major government defence contractor.  I work during 
the day and come home at night and watch DOOL and play homemaker to my three
cats and my fiance.  He does not know about my past and I will never tell him
because he may not love my anymore.  No one in my life now recognizes me from 
my past, and I would like to keep it that way.  Please, you are the only ones
I can trust to keep my secrets safe.  Do you think I should tell my fiance or
will it ruin everything.

Thanks for everything!

-Cindy (Pickle) Peel


-- 
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com [aka Cindy Newell - Usual disclaimers apply]

  The only sure sign that there is intelligent life out there is 
  that it hasn't tried to contact us.			-Calvin & Hobbes
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: M.E.K. News
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:23:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.072021.15401@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN) writes:
>
>OK ruffled feathers smoothed.  Yea, I wondered that about Mimi and
>Dereck, too.  But I don't know the answer.  Also, wonder why they
>questioned JaNut today.  Seems she would be the last person they

Yippee, Alma! I'm so glad I helped! A couple other kind people (Darren
haven't finished reading/catching up yet) answered the question the
gun! Hey thanks everyBUDy! 

CAZ in a well,
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From: kpk@cs.brown.edu (Kathy Kirman)
Subject: Re: KL: Did I miss the Finale?:(
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:25:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.141425.9493@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 22302LMM@MSU writes:
>Please tell me that I didn't although I think I did, miss the season finale of
>Knots? Why in the hell did it come on so early? It's only the beginning of Apri

Good news!! I noticed in the new TV Guide (April 11-17) that they
are reshowing the final KL episode Saturday night at 11:30! 
In my area a baseball game was on one of the channels (channel 6) during
KL, so Saturday night channel 6 is showing it at 11:30 p.m. 
I was surprised by this as KL was on the other two channels.

I'm not sure if this is happening in every area but it can't
hurt to check!

Kathy Kirman
From: notty@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (The Sheriff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Monday (4/13)
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:20:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr13.174930.1265@bvc.edu> galecristijo@bvc.edu writes:
>Carly's talk with Bo was sad.  I think I even cried.  I know Crystal has been 
>shoved down our throats, but IMHO she truly did a good job today.  The 
>scene when she FINALLY told Bo was very touching.

Without doing an update of the entire show, could someone please tell me
exactly what Carly told Bo?  I have pretty much figured out that it was
that she had a baby but I'd like to know the real story.

Thanks,
Lori

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From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL-SOW tidbits
Keywords: John, Dani, Lawrence, Carly
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:30:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <Apr.14.12.55.59.1992.20199@gandalf.rutgers.edu> shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:
>lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
>
>>In article <28860@brahms.udel.edu> riddle@brahms.udel.edu (Tammy Laird) writes:
>
>>In fact, I've been trying to figure out if there is any way
>>Shawn D. could be her child in real life?  Was Shawn D. 
>>adopted??  I can't remember if Hope actually was pregnant and
>>had him or not....  

>No way.  SD is the natural child of Bo and Hope.  I don't remember
>if she was pregnant on the show or if they returned from their
>cruise around the world with a baby.
>
>Remember Bo telling SD the story of taking Hope to the hospital
>and having a flat tire?
>

Oh Yeah!!  **Lights flash in Lis' head**  I remember that; 
it wasn't very long ago they discussed this, like on SD's
birthday or something.... It will be interesting to see
if Carly's "baby" is actually alive....

Thanks bunches!!

Lis

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
From: admn@quads.uchicago.edu (Bonnie J. Black)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL:  trivia-4 (finally!)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:36:19 GMT
Reply-To: admn@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

In article <1992Apr1.155728.2860@usl.edu> drsres00@ucs.usl.edu (Schwartz Donald R) writes:
>
>hi all!
>
>here is trivia quiz #4 -- with special thanks to angie and hilary
>for supplying questions!!
>
>ok -- i need help from the rest of you, too!
>
>here goes!
>
>1.) Name Mindy's husbands.
>
	Phillip Spaulding, Kurt Corday, Will Jeffries.

>2.) What sort of T.V. program did Mindy host?
>
>3.) Where did Mindy live with her second husband?
>
	Some dump.

>4.) Why did Mindy and her first husband get married?
>
	She was pregnant.

>5.) Name lujack's main squeeze when he was 'leader of the gang'.
>
	Darcy.

>6.) What drove her over the brink ot a dangerous insanity?
>
	He dumped her for Beth.

>7.) What was the name of the gang?
>
	the Gallahads.

>8.) Who really told lujack off when he explained that the members
>    of the gang weren't living up to gang's name?
>
>9.) Who was lujack's best friend in the gang?
>
>10.) How did Kurt Corday arrange to avoid deportation by the U.S.
>  immigration authorities?
>
	He married Roxie Shayne.

-- 
Bonnie J. Black	(admn@midway.uchicago.edu)
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (312) 702-2555 (9-5 CST)
(right down the stairs from the Doomsday Clock)
From: 22302LMM@MSU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Thoughts and Responses:)
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:45:55 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

Well first let me thank Joanna, and Kathy for the info on the KL finale, I just
 faxed my local station and did a major complaint, but it will fall on deaf ear
s. Also I would like to say hi to Ruth and Tim.

Now for the real stuff, I have been in this newsgroup for about 2 1/2 years and
have throughly (sp) enjoyed the spoilers, discussions and even the some of the
flames of the past. However, when I get mail from some yahoo, who has no sense
of reality. It's time to bitch. First I was never really acknowledged or welcom
ed to this group, Mr. J. Waters personally told me to blow off, (I took care of
 him in other ways, Thanks Tim :) Anyone that tells you that you can't write to
 this group because you weren't invited to include your thoughts is a bit of nu
t case anyway. But as for the butt-wipe who has a problem with my posts, get a
life, get a clue and most of all get a grip, I am not leaving, and if this both
ers you, such is life.

I really enjoy this group, and most of the people who posts I am familiar with
their comments or spoilers. Sorry to the rest of you who had to put up with thi
s B.S. publicly. The person of whom I speak knows who they are.

Lisa
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From: millersa@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Stacy Miller)
Subject: Re: DOOL: John water dream??
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 04:31:02 GMT

pinyan@bonnie.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Pinyan) writes:


>Maybe *I* dreamed this, but wasn't John having dreams in the beginning
>(when he was first seeing Marlena to help him remember) about water -
>looked like an ocean or something?  What is that?  Perhaps he and Dani
>had a 'bahth' together and got in over their heads?

>Does anyone remember this?  It seems they have answered all the other
>dreams but not this one unless I missed it.  Can someone clue me in?

>Thanks,
>Ann

Yes, he did have those dreams.  But I'm sure he had some "wet" dreams
after his time with Danielle!  Sorry, my mind is in the gutter.

				Stacy
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: thall@ducvax.auburn.edu (Teresa Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT: Misc
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Auburn University--Auburn, AL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 25

BaByDoLl -- WELCOME BACK TO THE WARD -- I MISSED YOU.

Jeepster-- HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE MAN WE ALL RELY ON FOR
           DAILY UPDATES AND AMUSEMENT.

Marjorie-- You won't even BELIEVE tap-dancing for a while
           yet.  My tummy at this very moment looks like
           a very >>large<< audition for the movie Aliens.
           Of course, the chances of you taking twins to 
           42+ weeks is pretty slim.  (Heh, heh, bet you
           think slim is a pretty funny word, just like I do.)

Well, all, I plan to go to Des Moines first thing tomorrow and
place a wreath on Carodead's grave.  And scrub off the graffiti.
And then jet on up to Chicago where, if they are not under water, 
the Martell's have a check for me to pick up so I can pay Uncle
Sam.  And then down to Yuckdale to share in Chinese take-out
with Margot, TomTom and the crew, then go to the adoption
ceremony which I guess will take place during recess of the trial
as HDD wouldn't dream of missing  a word.

So how are you gonna celebrate income tax/smother Carolyn Day?

Teresa
Auburn
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From: lmc@duke.cs.duke.edu (Lynn Mueller Canaday)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: KL: Season Finale
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:08:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <gduMrKq00UhW41z3Z=@andrew.cmu.edu>, lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox) writes:
# On 10-Apr-92 in Re: KL: Season Finale        
# user schwinge, angela m@utkvx writes:
# >>Anne preggers???????????  What a hoot.  Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
# >> 
# >What a shock but where did Greg go?  
# > 
# 
# 
# I am almost positive that Greg has Meg.  When Meg waved - we never sawe
# who she waved to - I'm sure that's why Greg doesn't want anyone to knoe
# where he is.
# 
# -Liz

This is very astute of you Liz.  I think I will have to agree with you
on this one.

Out of curiosity, is ther anyone out there who was as dissappointed
with the final show as I was???????  I thought it was so lame to bring
Pierce back!  And if they are going to make Claudia believeable as a
bad woman she is going ot have to dispose of trash like Alex as if
it wasn't so much work (GOD, I MISS ABBY!!!).  I was looking so 
forward to seeing Paige and Greg get back together.  Part of Greg's
charm to me was his cut throat business side, and the writers just
threw it all away!!!!!!!  And the way Greg just all-of-a-sudden quit
loving Paige was really stupid.  Then Ann rushing out to get her
daughters leftovers?? COME ON!

I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dissappointed. Luckly they have another season
to to come with better stories than that.

Oh Well,
Lynn
From: v101pyrw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michelle L. Zafron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Braindead and Dementri, a connection?
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:53:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

It just occured to me the other day that Brian and Dimitri are an awful lot
alike.  Both do half-assed, stupid things (getting married to An Li, having 
his wife declared dead to avoid bad press) and then justifying them with bizarre
logic ("it didn't mean anything" "Natalia, she was dead to me; I love you"").
They also each have this Catcher in the Ryeish desire for isolation ("Hayley
we'll get married and we'll go into the woods somewheres and no one will ever 
bother us again."  "Come with me Natalia, and we will go to Europe and never
be concerned with Janet or Trevor again!")

Maybe...just maybe...Dimitri is Brian's real father? (Hey it could happen ;-)).

One other comment:  Natalie did real well for herself financially, didn't she?
Dimitri kept giving her priceless family heirlooms.  She'd say "No I can't 
accept this."  He'd insist and she'd accept.  I didn't notice her giving any
of those trinkets back...

--Michelle L. Zafron (v101pyrw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu)
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From: SECBU@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Tristan in a commercial?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:40:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: SLACVM.92099.094002SECBU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Apr8.115810.982@gould.encore.com>, jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU
(Jan Penovich) says:
>
>The TV was on as usual when I was getting ready for work this morning.
>And as usual, I wasn't paying much attention to it; that is until I
>heard an Aussie voice that sounded familiar.  It was a
>commercial for the Outback Steakhouse, and the voiceover
>definitely sounded like Tristan Rogers making his voice sound
>rough. (The commercial had, I think, a cowboy chasing a woman
>who turned out to be a mirage or a dream.)  I didn't pay much attention
>to the commercial except for the voice.  Has anyone else
>seen/heard this commercial?  Is it the voice of our dear
>departed (har, har) commish?
>
>jan
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Pretty coincidental name for the steakhouse, don't you think??
The Outback???  Bob's brother...... don't you feel the cosmic
vibes? :)  I haven't heard the commercial, but will keep my
ears and eyes peeled.  What other Aussie could it be??
Sharon
From: sisak@pa881a.inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC married names
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:25:13 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: formoso

In article <9204101843.AA20505@mammoth.Berkeley.EDU>, 20676DOC@MSU.EDU ("Darren.Meahl") writes:
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> To change names or not to change names........ that is the question.
> 
> Well, it was a LITTLE more complex than that....   The taking of the
> man's name at marriage originally signified that the husband actually
> OWNED his wife, just like he owned his sheep, his cows, his pigs, and
> his children.  As such, he could legally treat them in any fashion he
> wished.  They (farm animals and wives) all had equal rights before
> the law--that is to say, NO RIGHTS AT ALL!!!!!

	Call me kinky, but I like the idea of being owned by my
husband....like an animal, pet ;^).  In the words of Andrew (my personal
hero) "F*ck me like the pig I am!"  

	Besides, if he owns me, he's gotta provide for me....his weak,
feeble wife.    
> 
> self-identity in the long run.   Giving up the name you've had for 20+
> years can be very traumatic, and can re-inforce a sense of subordination to
> your husband's wants/wishes/desires over your own.  It also makes life

	Seriously speaking, I did take my husband's last name.  I am an
independent, opinionated INDIVIDUAL.  I do have a career (which by the way,
I didn't start  until after I was married).  I didn't even consider keeping my
last name but when making our vows we swore to love, honor, and cherish
each other (not obey).  We respect each other.  And that's all that matters.
Who cares what your last name is?  What business is it of theirs anyway?

	I know of a couple who hiked up 3 Sisters Mountain in Oregon.  Got
married by a Swami and changed their last name to Chayella(sp?) which is
Swahili for United Spirit or something like that.    

	Name change is a very personal decision.  People should base that
decision soley on their own beliefs, not on societal "norms".

Just my 2 cents.

Karen