HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan R. Ferro)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.kibo,alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: WIZARD - the Nostradamus of Movies!
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:38:16 GMT
	<1i25h4INN1h4@mirror.digex.com>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

adric@access.digex.com (William Johnson) writes:
> (Pluse Polk and wold, which I don't know what they are, and trig, which I
> think is really only an abreviation for trigonometry).

Polk would most likely be referring to James K. Polk, 11th president of
the United States (1845-49), who had a very interesting career as the
first "dark horse" presidential candidate (the Democratic Party
originally viewed him as a likely vice president for Van Buren) and as a
supporter of the expansionist policies which generated the slogan
"Fifty-Four Forty or Fight!" in the north and the Mexican War in the
south.  As for the other two:

DEFINE wold
DEFINITION 0
  1. wold \'wo-ld\ n
     [ME wald, wold, fr. OE weald, wald forest; akin to OHG]wald
      forest
     1 : an upland plain : a region without woods
     2 : an open hilly or rolling region
  2. wold  var of WELD 

DEFINE trig
DEFINITION 1
1 neat
  1. trig \'trig\ aj
     [ME, trusty, nimble, of Scand origin; akin to ON tryggr faithful;
      akin to] OE tre-owe faithful - more at TRUE
     1 : stylishly trim : SMART
     2 : extremely precise : PRIM dial chiefly Brit
     3 : FIRM, VIGOROUS
  2. trig vt or trigged;  or trig.ging dial chiefly Brit  : to put in
     order : TIDY - usu. used with up
  3. trig vt or trigged;  or trig.ging
     [perh. of Scand origin; akin to ON tryggja to make firm; tryggr
      fai]thful chiefly dial  : to restrain from moving or shifting
      : as : to stop or slow (a wheel) usu. by placing a wedge or
      block under it : to support with props or wedges
  4. trig n chiefly dial  : a stone or block used as a support in
     trigging
  5. trig n : TRIGONOMETRY 

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> Now, having done all this totally useless and time-wasting stuff, I think
> I'll post this and let someone else chew on it for a while.  :-)
Likewise...

Jon "I was told we wouldn't have any new vocabulary in this newsgroup" Ferro
Newsgroups: alt.politics.media,talk.politics.drugs
From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: musings on story about Chicago's new head of drug programs
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:01:10 GMT

dan@netcom.com (Dan Liddell) writes:
>I was listening to NPR today, and heard a small story about how the
>mayor of Chicago (David Dinkins? spelled phonetically) had appointed
>an ex-heroin user as head of (here I have lost almost all details)
>drug enforcement and rehabilition in the city. In any case, I got the
>impression that it was an appointment of fairly wide scope.
>After hearing the story, I still could not tell if he was going to be
>naughty or nice to addicts in Chicago.
>Finally, "Would this have been news four months ago?"
>wondering...
>Dan Liddell   dan@netcom.com

Apparently you are unaware that a large majority of Drug counselors are
ex-addicts as are alcohol abuse counselors.  It certainly makes sense that
this would be the case.  I'm not understanding your problem with this.
Do you seriously beleive there is something wrong with the appointment?
Why do you think it would not have been news four months ago?
-Terry
From: kiddyr@gallant.apple.com (Ray Kiddy)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.media
Subject: what info would be good to serve?
Keywords: BBSes, information
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:51:08 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.


hello -

i have been talking to a group in San Francisco called Media
Alliance. They are both an advocacy organization and and aid
to employment for journalists. i am setting up a information
service for them (ie a BBS) which might be Internet-
accessible, although it might only be a uucp link. Actually,
i still need to convert them to thinking this would be a good
thing to do, for as usual people come to the future slowly
and at their own pace.

my question is, what kind of information is out there that
would be good to have a media org like this publish? I was 
thinking of: studies of what kind of people are exposed to 
what medium, databases of media ownership and its interlocking
directorates, studies of who the media talks to (trying to
identify the Golden Rolodex factor), etc.

i am not asking where i can get that info (i hate those kind of 
newbie-cant-read-a-FAQ questions), i am curious as to what kind
of info would be valuable to interested people.

please mail replies to: ray@ganymede.apple.com 
(although i will get replies generated through this post).

thanx in advance - ray

408-862-5625
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.media,talk.politics.drugs
From: cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ofer Inbar)
Subject: Re: musings on story about Chicago's new head of drug programs
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:11:32 GMT

dan@netcom.com (Dan Liddell) writes:
>I was listening to NPR today, and heard a small story about how the
>mayor of Chicago (David Dinkins? spelled phonetically) had appointed

I haven't heard of this story, but...  David Dinkins is mayor of NYC.

  --  Cos (Ofer Inbar)  --  cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
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  "One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
      -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.media,talk.politics.drugs
From: dan@netcom.com (Dan Liddell)
Subject: musings on story about Chicago's new head of drug programs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:12:34 GMT

I was listening to NPR today, and heard a small story about how the
mayor of Chicago (David Dinkins? spelled phonetically) had appointed
an ex-heroin user as head of (here I have lost almost all details)
drug enforcement and rehabilition in the city. In any case, I got the
impression that it was an appointment of fairly wide scope.

My first thought was "That's nice. Maybe we'll have something less
punitive there.. Maybe a harm reduction based program."

As the story progressed, we got to hear from the man himself, and the
story began to have trouble keeping up with the headline. 

He said in the early sixties he had used marijuana (and some other
stuff), and by the end of the decade he was a fully developed heroin
addict, and quit soon after. He said that he still considers himself
to be a recovering addict.

My next strong impression was "Why is this news? He could be a
prodigal's son, and needs to defuse his sordid youth; or he could be a
part of a kindler, gentler (Clinton inspired) approach from
government."

After hearing the story, I still could not tell if he was going to be
naughty or nice to addicts in Chicago.

Finally, "Would this have been news four months ago?"

wondering...
-- 
Dan Liddell   dan@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.politics.media,talk.politics.drugs
From: mweiss@mis.mi04.zds.com (Mitchell Weiss)
Subject: Re: musings on story about Chicago's new head of drug programs
Organization: Zenith Data Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:13:38 GMT

In article <BzyB5z.KvH@cs.uiuc.edu> tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>dan@netcom.com (Dan Liddell) writes:
>>I was listening to NPR today, and heard a small story about how the
>>mayor of Chicago (David Dinkins? spelled phonetically) had appointed
>>an ex-heroin user as head of (here I have lost almost all details)

David Dinkins is the mayor of New York!  
Richard Daley is duh mayor (thats how us from chicago say it) of Chicago!
From: aa687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith Ammann)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.media
Subject: I hear the wind whooshing across a great void
Date: 25 Dec 1992 07:02:23 GMT
Organization: Books & Co., 2nd-largest independent bookstore in the U.S.
Reply-To: aa687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith Ammann)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Okay, so is this newsgroup old and dying or brand new and not
quite totally born yet?  And is it for talking about how politics
affect the media, how the media present politics, or political
stuff that you can watch on the media like "The McLaughlin Group"?

You can probably guess from my sigfile where my interests lie.  :-)


-- 
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If you cannot believe what you wish, you cannot be at peace with yourself.
If you cannot say what you wish, you cannot defend yourself.
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
From: bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
Subject: Re: women marines/in military
Reply-To: bud@mtek.com
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 00:38:08 GMT

merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:

>Hey, I'm trying, but *you* certainly haven't offered any reasons
>on why men & women in the military have to follow different 
>standards on hair length.

There are *many* historical conventions in society that don't prosper
well under close scrutiny of the question "why?". You have found one.
If you wander up and down any given street for 20 minutes, many more
may occur to you, and you might thus extend that simple query into a
life work. But one would hope not. :-)

Peace.
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From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 26 Dec 92 12:29:42 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland

In article <BzrnL9.Evx@ens-lyon.fr> jgpaillo@ens-lyon.fr writes:
>I am french and I don't anderstand every words you use.
>What is "AA"?

  If you read it on talk.politics.misc it means 'Affirmative Action'

  If you read it on soc.culture.african.american it means 'African American'

  If you read it on soc.culture.asian.american it means 'Asian American'

  If you read it on sci.military it means 'Anti Aircraft'

>Thn\anks Geepie (FRANCE)

-bertil-
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 strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
 exercise for your kill-file."
Xref: sparky alt.politics.correct:6065 alt.politics.usa.misc:745 alt.rush-limbaugh:12865
From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Looking for Politically Correct phrases
Keywords: PC politically correct
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:21:26 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Gallifrey - Home of the Timelords
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu

I'm looking for a list of politically correct phrases. I'd also like a list
of phrases which are politically incorrect. If anyone can point me towards
a book, a list on the net, or can mail me some common ones along with
exactly what they mean, I'd appreciate it.

					- greg

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
From: jgpaillo@ens-lyon.fr (Jean-Gerard Pailloncy)
Subject: Question
Reply-To: jgpaillo@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:46:20 GMT

I am french and I don't anderstand every words you use.
What is "AA"? "inner-city"? "PC" exactly?

How are the racist troubles in USA?

Thn\anks Geepie (FRANCE)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
From: merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Subject: Re: women marines/in military
Organization: DigiBoard, Incorporated, Eden Prairie,MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:52:02 GMT

bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell) writes:
>merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:
>>Like I said, rationalizations, not reasons.  Doing things solely for
>>'tradition' means doing things today because you did them that way
>>yesterday.

>Much like your postings.

Ah, yes, the old ad homenim "argument".  Got any real ones?

---
Merlyn LeRoy
Xref: sparky alt.politics.correct:6046 soc.culture.african:7248
From: robart@agora.rain.com (Joe Bob)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Fidel Condemns Somalia Invasion/ed-
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:36:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.BzxtCx.K0D
Distribution: world
Organization: a gora

In article <LeP2VB7w165w@nyxfer.uucp> nyt@nyxfer.UUCP writes:
>
>From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)
>
>From el diario/La Prensa 12/18/93
>
>Castro Condemns Somalia Invasion
>
>Cuba's President Fidel Castro condemned the multinational military
>intervention in Somalia, and particularly the participation of the
>US, which he said aims to "resolve the problem of hunger with cannons."


  Who still uses cannons these days?  Maybe Fidel is having flashbacks
to the 1950's.
From: merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: women marines/in military
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:06:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DigiBoard, Incorporated, Eden Prairie,MN

bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell) writes:

>merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:

>>bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell) writes:

>>>merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:

>>>>Like I said, rationalizations, not reasons.  Doing things solely for
>>>>'tradition' means doing things today because you did them that way
>>>>yesterday.

>>>Much like your postings.

>>Ah, yes, the old ad homenim "argument".  Got any real ones?

>It wasn't an argument. It was an observation that you were becoming
>repetitive in your assertion. I believe this is a matter of fact.
>Unless you are prepared to debate whether this is so, there is no
>basis for argument, save among fools.

Hey, I'm trying, but *you* certainly haven't offered any reasons
on why men & women in the military have to follow different 
standards on hair length.

---
Merlyn LeRoy
From: bill@bcserv.wustl.edu (Eldridge (Bill))
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:54:03 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:

>In article <Bzv9DI.Hqq@news.chalmers.se> I wrote:
>>In article <BzrnL9.Evx@ens-lyon.fr> jgpaillo@ens-lyon.fr writes:
>>>I am french and I don't anderstand every words you use.
>>>What is "AA"?

>> [4 cases deleted]

>  I forgot one:

>  If you read it on something electric it is a type of battery.

>-bertil-

In alt.dysfunctional, AA is "alcoholics anonymous".
By the way, PC is politically correct, and our racial
troubles are doing wonderfully.  How are yours?

-- 
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Biochemistry Department Box 8231	(314) 362-3436
Washington Univ. School of Medicine	(314) 362-7183 (fax)
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,alt.dreams
From: barua@plains.NoDak.edu (Soumen Barua)
Subject: Bill Clinton
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:33:52 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

.
.
.
 (suddenly I remember that I saw Bill Clinton in a dream so the details are a
 little shady)
 I saw Bill Clinton (in Mcdonalds ? : I'm not sure though).
 His brother has decided to make a movie on him and Bill Clinton agreed to take
 part in it. He wants to improve this economic downturn by encouraging the
 American public to take part in small things. That's all. So long.
.
.
.
From: bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Rush
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:18:59 GMT
Reply-To: bud@mtek.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.

bgm@meaddata.com (Brian McKee) writes:

>Isn't "liberal status quo" an oxymoron?  [deleted]

No -- "liberal thinker" is the oxymoron. He properly uses "status quo"
as a succinct shorthand reference to the fact that liberals haven't
had a fresh idea since FDR, who had quite a few of dubious long-term
merit. (In fairness, FDR *did* point out the dangers of letting the
Congress get its nasty, bloated fingers into the Social Security pie.
His foolishness was in assuming his fellow liberals could restrain
themselves from pissing it all away to maintain incumbency.)

There should, of course, be no confusion that "liberal" in the political
sense has any lineage from the word "liberal" in the intellectual sense.
They are mutually exclusive. Indeed, it would be helpful if we could
find a more appropriate word to substitute to keep meanings clear. And
it would be useful if the new term had a clear enough meaning that it
could be understood without need of endless elaboration.

Now, let's see....

Perhaps "stupid" might be an acceptable choice, since it recommends
itself based on Bill Clinton's authoritative and well-loved slogan
addressed specifically to his campaign staff: "It's the economy,
stupid."

Quite right.

The insight this directive implies shows Clinton may be far a keener
judge of his supporters than has otherwise been evidenced.

>Did you mean he was challenging the views held by a majority of Americans?

And whose polls have *you* been reading?
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From: bgm@meaddata.com (Brian McKee)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Rush
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:26:13 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: dogwood.meaddata.com

In article <1992Dec19.090850.6268@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jimbo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Godfather of Soul) writes:
|> 
|> Since you envy him can one assume you believe that making
|> money is the root of success?  I listen to him because he
|> effectively challenges the liberal status quo and respect (some
|> of) his opinions.  His income is really of no consequence.
|> 
|> -- 
|> James W. Brown

Isn't "liberal status quo" an oxymoron?  By definition conservatives are
the ones who typically resist change (i.e., "tradition" -- heard the 
term "traditional family values" lately? -- or "status quo").  Rush may be
challenging liberal values, but he is not challenging the status quo.

Did you mean he was challenging the views held by a majority of Americans?

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From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:07:03 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland

In article <Bzv9DI.Hqq@news.chalmers.se> I wrote:
>In article <BzrnL9.Evx@ens-lyon.fr> jgpaillo@ens-lyon.fr writes:
>>I am french and I don't anderstand every words you use.
>>What is "AA"?

> [4 cases deleted]

  I forgot one:

  If you read it on something electric it is a type of battery.

-bertil-
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"It can be shown that for any nutty theory, beyond-the-fringe political view or
 strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
 exercise for your kill-file."
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
From: bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
Subject: Re: women marines/in military
Reply-To: bud@mtek.com
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:37:55 GMT

merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:

>bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell) writes:

>>merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:

>>>Like I said, rationalizations, not reasons.  Doing things solely for
>>>'tradition' means doing things today because you did them that way
>>>yesterday.

>>Much like your postings.

>Ah, yes, the old ad homenim "argument".  Got any real ones?

It wasn't an argument. It was an observation that you were becoming
repetitive in your assertion. I believe this is a matter of fact.
Unless you are prepared to debate whether this is so, there is no
basis for argument, save among fools.

But do please yourself, by all means.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
From: engp2024@nusunix2.nus.sg (ALI NAJAFI)
Subject: What are these all about?
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:01:55 GMT

Hi there,
    
    Sorry for this FAQ for I didn't know any other place to put my question.
Can somebody tell me what are these newsgroups (alt.politics. ...) all about?
The purpose of some of the groups can be guessed from the name. But there
are some which cannot be guessed in this way.

     Thanks in advance.

ali.
email: "ali%ee.nus.sg"@nuscc.nus.sg
From: thrift@ra.csc.ti.com (Phil Thrift)
Subject: Rules of Conduct
Organization: TI Central Research Laboratories, Dallas
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:01:04 GMT

Once the gay-is-ok directive has been passed down the military
chain of command, the next issue will concern rules of conduct which
govern actual homosexual practice.

Now I have never been in the military, but I have a general idea
what goes on, regulations or not (I've seen, for example,
"Boys of Company F" - BTW Rick Donovan's debut).

Now it seems that current regulations say that a male soldier
can be sent to military prison for allowing a female (even wife)
to touch his penis with her lips, so things are troublesome for
heterosexuals already. But what will the eventual rules of conduct
be that govern homosexual behavior?

Philip Thrift





Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
From: patrick@rio-grande.is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: WHY?
Organization: On holiday until January 3.  We'll send pictures.
	<1992Dec23.033715.23759@netcom.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:58:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.033715.23759@netcom.com> robj@netcom.com (Rob Jellinghaus) writes:

   In article <0Fm8VB1w163w@peewee> peewee@infoserv.com (Philip Stromer) writes:
   >You were close, but several things are more gross, namely:        
   >1. Sticking your tongue up someone's ANUS
   ...
   >So is sex, but it ain't worth the risk of AIDS.  I advocate
   >that everyone STOP having sex, right now.
   ...
   >Most men will tell you "eeewwww!!!" at the thought of anal
   >sex.  But thanx for playing.  Better luck next time.
   ...
   >Oral sex?   EEEWWWW!!!
   ...
   >I'm too stupid to learn, so why should I bother to read?  Gimme a break!

   It's true, y'all.  This guy REALLY IS the reincarnation of the final
   stage of djk, when he was doing nothing but blathering about his
   sexual hangups and yelling names at queers.  At least he's so dumb
   that he doesn't do anyone any damage but himself.

There *is* one difference I've noticed -- Dan Karnes actually left the net
because he was looking for his wife (who showed the good sense to leave
him).  It's hard to imagine a female brain-dead enough to put up with
Stromer, though, especially after getting himself fired at Sun.  A track
record like that doesn't tend to bring the women running.

(We can always hope, though. :-)

--PLH, think I'll save that for after the holidaze...

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