HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: akcs.toby@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Toby Schneiter)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Gay Money and marriages in PA
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:00:04 CDT

The Gay $ thing did originate in Chicago - in fact a bar owner here
claims that one of the reasons her license was denied when it came up for
renewal about 7 years ago was because she always stamped all $ 'Gay $". 
The Gay $ stamp is still available here at People Like Us Books.  I am
not sure of the exact address, but it is approxiamtely 3300 North on
Clark Street and can their phone number can be obtained from 312
directory assistance.
Xref: sparky soc.motss:37991 soc.bi:11796
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: Prediction of the Republican National Convention
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:43:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.37583
Followup-To: soc.motss
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep2.024842.15326@plts.uucp> tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
+>Tom Limoncelli
+>8:05PM, Aug 16, 1992
+
+See I got 100% correct!  (I'm just trying to be like my role model
+GHWB and never tell the truth; remember:  Repeat your lies in enough
+forums and people will start to believe them.).

I thought you were exploring 'spritual cross-dressing' and playing the
role of Jean Dixon. First fundament rule is DON'T POST PREDICTION COMPARISONS
WITH EVENTUAL OUTCOME.

Or possibly become a 'practicing political pundit', in which case
the advice is SAY WHAT EVER  YOU LIKE, BUT WHAT EVER YOU DO BE
THE FIRST TO SAY IT, and of course the above advice also holds.

-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
From: klotz@lclark.edu (Gretchen Klotz)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Geography (was Re: Guess my age and win a valuable prize!)
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:10:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug30.181025.28401
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <92242.100431IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.203131.7294@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu
>(Nelson Minar) writes:
>
>>And no wonder so many of us hardcore Pacific Northwesterners don't
>>like it when Easterners, or even worse, Californians, move here.
>
>*sniff*  does that mean i can't move to oregon?  you can't get any
>more east that maine, but gretchen invited me...  pretty please?
>
>                                           -ailsa

Perhaps Nelson wasn't quite clear in his in- and exclusions...  Most of us
LGBO environmentally/socially conscious "hardcore Pacific Northwesterners"
(HPNs) welcome others of the same ilk who are likely to become HPNs
themselves.  But part of preserving the tremendous beauty of this state is
not letting it become overpopulated and spoiled (anymore than it already
is by clearcutting) like most of the east coast and California. 

When I moved here 2 years ago, I laughed long and hard when I heard how
concerned people were with the fact that the state population *might*
reach 3 million by the turn of the century!  And here I was moving from
Philadelphia, where the SMSA was larger than this *entire* (much larger)
state.  But now I feel crowded (due to an overabundance of bigots,
probably) and share that concern.

Realistically, though, there is a long history of virulent regional
chauvinism here in Oregon.  I've seen several bumperstickers from the 70s
that say "Don't Californicate Oregon!" (This merits a longer story, but
I'm not going to tell it in this post.) And I think that, as with many
other wonderful places on this planet, new emigres buy into that
protectionist stance fairly quickly: "Now that I've made it to paradise,
let's close the door.  Except to *my* friends."  I'm no exception! :-)

But ailsa, you *know* I will welcome you with open arms!  And for the
benefit of soc.motss who didn't read my original public invitation from
another newsgroup, I still promise to rub your feet with lavendar oil
daily, to read you and Katy to sleep each night, and to provide you with
suitable quantities of chocolate.  I will now add Indian food to that
list.  Now, why are you waiting???  ;-)

- Gretchen

-- 
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              klotz@lclark.edu			Lewis & Clark College
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Vacation
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 09:57:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Jess Anderson writes:
>I love Chinese
>food, but Dim Sum is a grease fest and not at all to my
>liking.  I like PB sammiches and I like J sammiches, but I
>think PB&J is a throw-up combination.  I don't like
>*anything* sweet with peanut butter (yes, I loathe Reese's
>PB Cups!).

I'm glad *someone* has some taste around here -- but I have to
concede, I would never have thought I would share ANY tastes in
food with you...(!)

There are people who like bananas or bacon in their Peanut
Butter sandwiches (I shan't be descending to Dyer's 2nd Grade
terminology); I myself prefer either sweet pickle relish,
potato chips or tortilla chips.  Yes, *IN* the sandwich.
 
() Al hataam ve'al hareiach ein lehitvakeiach (One can't
() argue about taste and smell).
()      -- Zev Sero (zvs@bby.oz.au)
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@aix.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: CALL 202-456-1111 to support Queer-positive media programming!
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:18:04 GMT


From: KLangabeer <KLangabeer.MAILROOM@wylbur.kines.ucla.edu>
Subject: Far right gay baits to kill PBS

	Action Alert!!
	Rev. Wildmon's American Family Association, Tupelo, MS, 38803 
(601-844-5036),
is using lesbigay baiting to end federal funding for the Corporation for Public
Broadcasting, which in part funds National Public Radio (NPR) and the Public
Broadcasting System (PBS).
	A bill that would continue federal funding for public TV and radio 
(HR-2977) which was passed by Congress, now sits on Bushs desk.  Bush must 
sign or veto the bill by this Friday, Aug. 28.According to my local NPR station,
KCRW in Santa Monica, CA, if Bush vetoes this bill, it will mean the end of 
public TV and possibly the end of NPR and local public radio stations.
	Bush is being pressured to veto the bill by the Republican Party (they 
passed a plank in their platform against federal funding for CPB) and by the 
American Family Association, which has placed ads in papers and sent a mailing 
to 500,000 of its members urging them to call the White House and tell Bush to
veto HR 2977.
	The ad they placed in the Washington Times on Aug. 16 states as a headline: 

----------
DO YOU WANT 1.1 BILLION OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS SUPPORTING NUDE LESBIAN SEX AND A
PUSH FOR HOMOSEXUALITY ON PBS?

	It goes on to mention the shows: A Portrait of a Marriage,In the Life
(the upcoming gay variety show), The Lost Language of Cranes,Out,Behind
Censorship,Out Here,and Anthem.
	In regard to Tongues Untied it states, The pro-homosexual Tongues Untied
was so offensive (It was filled with the gutter four letter term for sexual
intercourse.) that more than 200 PBS stations refused to air it.
	...You could call PBS the Gay Pride Taxpayer Funded Network.  The PBS
homosexual crusade shows PBS's contempt for those of us who are forced to pay
the bill.  PBS and the homosexual activists have their Gay Pride Taxpayer
Funded Network, and the taxpayer gets financially raped by PBS.
	...Tired of your tax dollars being used by PBS to promote homosexuality?
Join with others to make your voice heard.  The ad then provides a form to
fill out and send to the American Family Association to stop PBS from
using...tax dollars to promote homosexuality and the phone and address of the
White House.
-----------
	You can bet that the far right will be calling Bush to urge him to veto 
HR-2977.
	He also must hear from supporters of the Corporation for Public 
Broadcasting and those appalled by the evangelical rights use of hate 
mongering to kill public broadcasting.
	Call the White House comment line at 202-456-1111 (9 a.m. - 5 p.m. EDT).
Tell them you support HR 2977.  Or you can fax the White House at 202-456-2461.

Kris Langabeer
UCLA
ibn7kxl@mvs.oac.ucla.edu

-- 
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C. in '93!''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"After abortion, birth control is next." -former President of NJ Right To Life
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: more kind words of compassion from an evangalist...
Summary: to bad his mother wasnt one, and killed her children
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:22:31 GMT


Taken from "The Globe And Mail" newspaper, Toronto, Wednesday, August 26, 1992

Page A14

SOCIAL STUDIES
  - A daily miscellany of information by Michael Kesterton

...WORD WATCH
  ...Feminism: is described in a fund-raising letter by U.S. evangelist
               Pat Robertson as "a socialist, anti-family political movement
               that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their
               children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and
               become lesbians."


-- 
   - Ken Dykes, Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada    [43.47N 80.52W]
         kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca   postmaster@thinkage.com   thinkage!kgdykes
         harley-request@thinkage.on.ca             kgdykes@math.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: scott@truevision.com (Scott Stevens)
Subject: Re: soc.motss statistics for August 1992
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 23:28:39 GMT

In <2aa505ba@ThreeL.co.uk> jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher) writes:

>... the Anderson clique openly indulges in shopping behaviour ...

Shopping isn't a behavio(u)r--it's a lifestyle!

-- 
Scott Stevens (scott@truevision.com)  | The views expressed are my own,
Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN     | not Truevision's.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)
Subject: Re: disliking x
Followup-To: soc.motss
Summary: correction
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:18:09 GMT

in article <1992Sep4.140647.12604@cis.ohio-state.edu>
i write:

 >a number of different ideas are all tangled up in these discussions,
 >and things are   helped by changing "i don't like x" to "x isn't my
                ^^^
                not
 >thing", which preserves all of the ambiguities while softening the
 >judgment only a little.

grrr...

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Daivd (RE: Sim is OK!!)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:26:49 GMT

In article <31AUG92.15262645@enh.nist.gov>, aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
> It's a common error, so everyone gets excused unless they do it again.
> It's just to catch the eye, since Daivd is in theatre, and casting
> agents, producers and directors are more likely to remember unusual
> names.

You mean these folks don't just assume it's a typo? "Who is this
turkey, he can't even spell his own name!"

> It is pronounced like David, just spelled differently.
> He changed his name legally seven years ago.  New name:  Daivd Tarryn-Grae.

Well, the rest of this name is pretty striking, anyway.

Oh, and, welcome back, Sim, glad you survived intact.

	Robert
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Folsom ST Fair
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 09:06:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <65095@cup.portal.com> <la8t0cINNsa0@mizar.usc.edu>

adolphson writes:
>If I'd known that you were so starved for humor out in the wilds
>of Glendale, I'd have organized a USO concert for you.

As long as you're around, I shall never want for a cheap laugh.
 
() To read of emotions that reflect our own is the only
() proof we have we are not mad.
()      -- Kendall Hailey
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: Insults
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:05:57 GMT

>I confess, my mind is weak.  
	Yes.

BBC
Xref: sparky soc.motss:36979 alt.activism:15445
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.activism
Subject: Re: GOP Con: McClendon Claims AIDS Cover-Up, CIA Blackmail of Gays
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:23:19 GMT
Organization: LLNL

In article <35=n4k#.bprofane@netcom.com> bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr) writes:

>On a C-SPAN program analysing the GOP convention, Sarah McClendon
>charged that the White House is being especially hypocritical on
>the issue of AIDS in light of the fact that, she claims, 20 to 30
>White House staffers are undergoing treatment for AIDS.

	Well, I do wonder what is the total population of White House
staffers.

	And I do hope that, if it is true, that SMC can get some hard
evidence; I'm sure that the campaign staff will be more than happy to
portray this charge as "proof" that the news media are under Bill
Clinton's thumb.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: boobs
Reply-To: shore@tc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:48:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.173226.26318@cis.ohio-state.edu>, amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky) writes:
> melinda does not need to feel any anxiety in insulting someone by
> calling them BOOB or BOOBY `dope, fool' because she is so fond of
> BOOBS or BOOBIES `women's breasts'.

Right, and I understand that well.  I guess the (minor)
anxiety I'd been feeling is that I'd genuinely come to
think of Bob/Boob as a breast.

I believe it's stress-related.
-- 
"I would promptly inform any homosexual who would dare to proposition
me that my preference is fisting."  -- Theodore A. Kaldis

       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: practicing roles
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:11:13 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, 86/92 Causewayside, Edinburgh EH9 1PY, UK


In article <2SEP92.16231644@enh.nist.gov>,
aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:

> But didn't Ms. Cresson prove to you that all British men are gay?

Heh.  If only.

Yes, it seemed she was struck by the fact that when she was
dealing with British men (in fact, she said Anglo-Saxons,
which includes all you lot, as far as she's concerned) they
weren't continually giving her the eye.  Obviously, she
said, they had no sexual interest in women, and at least
twenty-five percent of them were homosexual.  I seem to
remember her saying:

"It's a serious problem, and we have to work out what to do
about it..."

It caused a delightful flap.

--John
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: Ending the military band
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:07:29 GMT

daz@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Dazza Primm) writes:

>Brent, you puns are almost as bad as mine :-). 

Better *watch* it, Daz; remember, you're only a short walk away. I'm
gonna come over there an' GIT you!  :)

(Actually, if I'm not mistaken, I owe you an Entertainment.  When would
you like to collect?  :)

--Brent
From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay names
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:06:35 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <4c-n5g#.jfh@netcom.com>,
jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
> In article <1992Aug22.035132.22858@quantime.co.uk>
> roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
> >... in films and on television,
> >the name Roger seems to be reserved for villains,
> >slimy heterosexual philanderers, and nerds.
> >(Roger Ramjet and Roger Rabbit are in the third category.)
> 
> In the book, Roger Rabbit was the murderer.

Oh.  First category, then.

Wait - there was a *BOOK* of that Rogophobic propaganda?
-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"Pooter, n. a petit bourgeois, conventional and unimaginative."
-- Chambers English Dictionary (1988)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: On accuracy and anderson
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 11:08:10 GMT


In article <1992Sep02.000529.12479@microsoft.com>
bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver) writes:

>/(mattm)
>/And perhaps someone else had brought this to Mr. Anderson's attention
>/as well; I don't remember apologizing for the observation.

>Let me get this straight: anderson claims that, in an
>private email conversation with you,

Tilt!  Not with him, with someone else who grossly
overestimated my involvement and apologized for it.

>that you apologized to him for making this claim (this, in
>spite of him trying to flame me for quoting
>unsubstantiatable emails).

C'mon, Bob, surely you recognize parody when you see it.
Why else would I have said "you others, don't look" if not
to pull your leg?  Calling it a flame is absurd.

>Now, however, you publicly state that you made no such apology.
>Does that make anderson a liar?

Answer the question, since you raised it.  Does it?


-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: RNC: Buchanan's speech
Reply-To: shore@tc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:16:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.134752.31777@watson.ibm.com>, jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
>  have you tried
> squirting Lanacaine in your ears?  it might soothe the itch you
> feel whenever you attempt to think.

I'm so proud of our younger generation.  I feel good knowing
that Jake and his peers will be here to continue in the fine
tradition that we've established.  Bravo.
-- 
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: musical finale
From: carlton@husc10.harvard.edu (david carlton)
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:00:09
 <1992Aug23.002150.28448@cis.ohio-state.edu> <CARLTON.92Aug22210029@husc10.harvard.edu> <1992Aug23.034211.19064@spdcc.com>
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam
In-reply-to: dyer@spdcc.com's message of Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:42:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.034211.19064@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
> In article <CARLTON.92Aug22210029@husc10.harvard.edu> carlton@husc10.harvard.edu (david carlton) writes:
>>the musical offering.

>>of course, i'd rather hear it alive, something i still haven't managed
>>to do - don't suppose there are enough boston-area motssers out there
>>who'd be interested in doing it?

> Kazoo or scat singing? :-)

I can see it now - a whole bunch of us playing the M.O. on wooden
kazoos with catgut mesh, using relatively little vibrato, and with a
415 A...

david carlton
carlton@husc.harvard.edu

        Lying pig.  I'm the Pope, too.
                       - John Dorrance
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Canadian immigration policy (was Re: move to canada, eh?)
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:16:35 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <3471@ra.nrl.navy.mil> julie@hood.nrl.navy.mil (Julie Hood) writes:
>But I'm still confused why she would have the domestic partner benefits
>but not be legal to work in Canada?!?

I don't see the conflict.  The same thing happens ion the United States -
for example, illegal immigants are entitled to schooling, even though
they're illegal. 

>I though things like health care
>were part of Canadian government's socialist structure.
>Anybody have some clues... ?

There's an article about Canada's health care system in the September
Consumer Reports.   It says, among other things, that Canada's system is
not socialized medicine. 

>I'm *not* pursuing that job anymore but I am still curious.
>Is this the same way it works here in the US?
>A foreigner can bring the spouse (only a motos, of course BUT NOT FOR LONG!)
>and the spouse is then legal to stay here and can get the domestic partner 
>bennies,.... but that spouse can not legally work?

Unless they have a work permit or green card, probably not. 

-- 

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: daz@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Dazza Primm)
Subject: Re: Guess my age and win a valuable prize!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:22:22 GMT

fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:

>Associating age with a certain level of maturity is IMHO like choosing
>wine based on the price: you can make some damn bad mistakes with
>that.
Yes, that is true. But then why should age come into it as to whether
one is mature or not. I can be mature when I need to be, otherwise I am
not :-)

>There are a lot of fucked-up older guys out there, and some young guys
>who've really got it together.
Totally agree here.  

>Personally, I go for the 'older mature man' because it tuns me on. You
>don't find a lot of youngsters with big arms to hold you,
tuns you on FJ? :-) I Yes, there arent many younger guys with big arms
to hold you, which i find to be a little frustrating at times. when you
want to hold onto someone but they dont want to, it can get kinda
frustrating at times. I have seen in some of the people I have been
with, the more comfortable they are with there sexuality, the more
willing they are to show affection towards others in public areas.

>It is then that he asks me my age, and I shocked him. he thought I was
>25+, I'm not. I thought he was late thirties, he's is not. Cees is 49.
I get my age to be taken old than I am. I am 23, have been told I look
26, and 28,. Personally i feel about 17, and act about 5 :-)

>							FJ!!
Daz.

--
  Darren (Dazza) Primm, Dept EE Eng, Melb Uni, Parkville, 3052, Australia
 "What's the point in being grown up, if you can't be childish sometimes!"
   Internet: daz@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au  [dazza@ecr.mu.oz.au]  IRC: Family

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