HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 3.0 FontPanel acceleration is broken (BUG!!?)
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:45:33 GMT
Organization: Next Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct7.113102.558@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch writes:
>Neat trick.  However, have you noticed that there is no longer a return  
>symbol on OK on the Font Panel? 
>For those of us used to using it under 2.x, hitting return while selecting  
>a font just erases the text selection we had highlighted!  Ouch.

Under 2.x, buttons such as "Set" in the font panel and "OK" in alerts had
return symbols on them all the time, even if the panel wasn't key. This was
misleading as you could hit return while the font panel was up, but it would
only work if the panel was key. If not, it would erase your selection
(as you describe).

Under 3.0, the return symbol appears on these default buttons only when
the panel is key. Make the font panel key and you will see the return symbol
appear on the button. This is supposed to prevent you from hitting return at
the wrong time; it does seem to help.

Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com



Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: goldly@u.washington.edu (Lloyd P. Goldwasser)
Subject: Problem faxing with Dove
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:47:56 GMT

Is there a trick to sending faxes with a Dove fax modem?
I have taken care of all the settings with PrintManager,
but, when I go to fax, nothing goes anywhere.

Any insights?

Thanks in advance,

Lloyd Goldwasser
goldly@u.washington.edu
From: federico@heinz.in-berlin.de (Federico Heinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Built-In 3.0 Drivers for Non-PS Printers??
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:23:14 GMT
Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting

In article <1992Oct6.212753.28342@ee.gatech.edu> lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu  
(John B. Lockhart) writes:
> Upon investigation of the files therein and cross-referencing them with
> /NextLibrary/Printers/..., I gather NeXT added general dot matrix printer
> support to NeXTSTEP, and didn't bother to tell anyone.

They sure did create a software environment for the supported dot-matrix  
printers (IBM ProPrinter and Epson). But they have chosen to make the  
interface to that environment private, so there seems to be no way to take  
real advantage of it other than using the bundled drivers.

> Can I, with a little work, make a color version for my DeskJet
> 500C, and not purchase Dots Color (which costs about as much as the
> printer itself)?

You must get those DJ 500Cs for dirt cheap! Please, please tell me where you  
are buying them, I could make a fortune selling them at $400 for a 100%  
profit! :-)

> Could someone please comment on all this and tell me where I can find docs
> on it, so that I can start work on a 500C description file, instead of a
> machportdevice-using C program?  EPS, are you there??

No such luck. You must work with machportdevice and related paraphernalia  
(and pray that it works...)

	Federico

PS: Just in case a disclaimer is needed: I'm the author of Dots.
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Another modest proposal for NeXT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:53:16 GMT

Since we keep discovering nice new hidden features in NS 3.0 (such as
the Decompress and Unarchive features, discussed recently in this
group), features which may or may not be documented in the full
release  notes (if one can access them), it would be nice if someone 
at NeXT who knows them all would publish a simple list, 
posting it here and to the Archives. If such a listing exists, could
someone point us to it. 
Thanks in advance!
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From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HiddenWords, sndMucker, and artillery...
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:55:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct8.165524.4365
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <556@rri.UUCP> tim@rri.UUCP (Tim Buck) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.125957.12258@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes:
> >
> >These three were recently posted to nova/sonata as .tar.Z files.   
However,  
> >when I try to uncompress them, it seems to go for awhile, make a file  
> >about 5-6 megs big, then die for some strange (unpredictable) error.   
Has  
> >anyone else had any problems uncompressing these files?  Any idea what  
is  
> >going wrong for me?
> >
> It sounds to me like you forgot to use BINARY when you FTPed them.

I didn't.  After further checking, and downloading to various types of  
machines, including non-NeXT's, the only conclusion is that these files  
are corrupt.  I suspect that the person who put them there forgot BINARY  
mode when submitting them.  Try downloading them yourself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu>
Subject: Sybase - Concept of a User
Reply-To: Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: ARCI, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:37:05 GMT

I was told a long time ago that Sybase may internally limit the number of  
simultaneous users based on the license agreement.  (i.e. - a 5 user  
license will only allow 5 users to access the database at the same time.)  

I was also told that Sybase uses 3 of the 5 users from the Limited Server  
Edition for internal processes (database writer, etc.).  Leaving only 2  
users available.  Can someone clarify this, is this true??
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
In-reply-to: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu's message of 10 Oct 92 04:53:05 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
	<HARDY.92Oct9215303@golem.ps.uci.edu>
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:21:26 GMT

A related question: the  DiskEjecFix.compressed announced in
Matt_Watson@NeXT.com's post came with a nics "compressed" tiff. 
Just clicking on it uncompressed it. Is this a new feature in 3.0
different from uunix compress,  and how do you make "file.compressed" 
files? (In case you say RTFM -- I installed 3.0 with a borrowed CD-ROM
drive, and did not copy all the documentation to disk. When I get my
CD-ROM-player in November I will certainly RTFM). 

--
Hardy 
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From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Edit.app in 3.0.  Goto Line # removed!
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:49:15 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Koblenz (FB Informatik)

In article <PAUL.92Oct6104321@music.sie.arizona.edu> paul@music.sie.arizona.edu  
(Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> Did I miss something, or did they actually remove the "jump to line #"
> feature (command-l) from Edit?  How could they do this???
> --paul

It's not removed, it's just hidden. Select 'Developer Mode' in
Edit's Preferences Panel to get it back.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: ftp nova.cc.purdue.edu
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:03:06 GMT

In article <BvAz2z.85B@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)  
writes:
> In article <Bv5M3t.LsG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kane@cs.purdue.edu (Christopher  
> Kane) writes:
> > Purdue is about to upgrade to 3.0 (hopefully) next week.  I don't know
> > what this will mean for the archives for next week; I haven't seen
> > anything announcing the downtime outside of Purdue.
> 
> Me neither, and I sent an announcement to
> comp.sys.next.announce. :-(  Consider sonata down for a
> while, though it will probably be up pretty stable after 5
> this afternoon. 

The archive server isn't working properly for me.

It sends back garbage in response to any of my requests.

I sent mail to archive-management@cc.purdue.edu on 10/2.

Has anyone else experienced a problem?

Monty

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: John Perry Barlow <barlow@eff.org>
Subject: Fax and 3.0 -- Yet More Trouble
Reply-To: John Perry Barlow <barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us>
Organization: Annuit Coeptis
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 08:06:04 GMT

This seems to be a real tar baby...

The harder I try to figure it out, the weirder it gets.

This might be a data point though:

When I look at the Assign menu item in FaxReader, I get a blank list of users.  
Is this relevant?

Also, for those of you who might suggest that the reason I don't have  
permission to access DoveFax is that I am neither a Trusted nor an Unrestricted  
user, I have made myself so in PrintManager.

Grrrr.
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From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 486 NeXTStep and DOS
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:25:36 GMT
Reply-To: sam_s@NeXT.com

Robert Brennan writes:
> Is it possible to configure a 486 system to have partitions for both DOS  
> and NeXTStep486; and at boot time either boot one or the other?  I am just  
> ready to uncrate my Gateway 486 and would like to enjoy the best of both  
> worlds without having two machines.

Yes, it is possible to place a NeXT file system on a DOS partition under
NeXTSTEP 486 and to boot either one.

> Please don't flame my DOS usage--some  
> apps in the world still only run under DOS.

MS-DOS is yucky!  It does have some pretty great games though.

-sam

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Printing Book
Keywords: psxlate -bE  or something like that...
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:29:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.125258.1436@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> fozztexx@groucho.sonoma.edu  
(Chris Osborn) writes:
> I have a book I'm working on in FrameMaker. All of the pages are
> 5.5"x8.5". I would like to print it out so that instead of getting one
> page in the center of each 8.5"x11", I can get two of them on a sheet.
> I'd also like to be able to print them double sided.
> 
> Does anyone know of a program that could separate the saved PostScript
> [ as 2up book signatures. ]

There's a program they talk about over in
comp.lang.postscript.  I believe the one to do this is
psxlate.  I'm not sure where to get it from and my copy is old
and has weird localisms added.  Check their FAQ. 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: brianc@dc_scom (Brian Caslis @ SST)
Subject: Re: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 23:00:57 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

This is great news, but... For those of use without ftp access could
this fix be put somewhere that we could email to get it?

Thanks,
-- 
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Mentor Graphics Corp.	* 
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From: bavenell@next.com (Bette Avenell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SimCity port to NeXT
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:49:01 GMT

Does anyone have any updates on this? 

Bette Avenell
bavenell@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: right now
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:41:40 GMT

In article <199210110339.AA22649@cnam.cnam.fr> eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald) writes:
>If I understand rightly there is no word processor bundled anymore on the
>NeXT. This is a giant step backwards. It means that troff and nroff once
>again become the de facto lingua franca, although no one knows how to use
>them anymore :-)
>Who's gonna do a freeware hack? 

NeXTSTEP sure does come with a word-processor!  It's called Edit.  RTF
is good, and don't forget about PostScript.  I really don't think many
NeXT users are going to wrestle with *roff or TeX (don't get me wrong,
I think TeX is great).


andrew
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                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: John Perry Barlow <barlow@eff.org>
Subject: Fax and 3.0--More Trouble!
Reply-To: John Perry Barlow <barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us>
Organization: Annuit Coeptis
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 07:20:52 GMT

Things are not getting better here, folks. In the course of trying to fix my  
previous inability to get a message regarding incoming faxes, I have changed  
something with te following results:

1. When I start FaxReader, I get a message saying that I don't have permission  
to access DoveFax modem. 

2. All my previous faxes have disappeared from usr/spool/NextFaxes/DoveFax.

Does anyone know where one might get any documentation on FaxReader 3.0 or, for  
that matter, NextPrinter 3.0. 

This is really irritating.

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P.O. Box 1009		NeXTmail to:
168 South Franklin	barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969)
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:39:06 GMT

  Re:  Humor in computer documentation.
       I love funny stuff as much as the next guy, but the humor
causes two problems:
     A.  One man's humor is another man's smart ass.
     B.  Not everyone reading English language tech manuals 
         has the cultural background to get the joke, and
         that tends to result in busted machines and great
         stories.
     Just a thought.
-----
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Mail Path: uplherc.upl.com!neb!bbs!1fg
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From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: rtf->ascii script needed
Date: 10 Oct 92 10:23:20 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Can someone point me to a unix script that will translate rich text format into
plain ascii while retaining (at least some of) the formatting?
 
Thanks.
 
Randomly, Kelly Cunningham
<deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu><f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu><jkellyc@tenet.edu>
    NeXTMail (encouraged)          VMS Mail (tolerated)     Pine (beats mail)
"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home."
                    Ken Olson, President and visionary, Digital Equipment,1977
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kris@tpki.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: 24hr clock in preferences, how?
X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1992 Kristian Koehntopp -- All rights reserved.
		 Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer,
		 nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem,
		 schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors.
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:14:02 GMT
X-Excuse: X-Copyright wegen Emma, Suedwestpresse und /C'T/DISKUSSIONEN.

In <1992Oct7.031551.9816@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
>I'd like the preferences clock to display time in 24hr format, 
>e.g. 23:14, not 11:14 PM.  How can I do that?

dwrite Preferences 24HourClock yes

Kristian

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"One who has never hacked sendmail.cf has no soul.
 One who has hacked it twice has no brain." -- Peter da Silva
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Built-In 3.0 Drivers for Non-PS Printers??
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:35:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.023058.27250@news.csuohio.edu>  
cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
> 1. Do you need the CD-ROM player to install the drivers?  considering  
that
> these CD-ROM players are hopelessly backlogged, and considering the fact
> that we may not see 3.0 for QUITE a long time, this is not so promising  
for
> many of us caught in the crunch.

You need either: access to a CD-ROM; or a machine on a net with a full 3.0  
installation.  For the former, check out the User Groups.  All American  
user groups were offered reduced price CD-ROM drives on condition that the  
drives were available to members wishing to upgrade.  This offer never  
made it to the primitives living in Europe, of course.  The UK "3.0 and  
CD-ROM drive" was between $840 and $1,000 dollars (depending on the  
exchange rate) to start with.  I would bet that NeXT order management WILL  
get out the user group drives early.

> 2. What cable configuration does a standard parallel printer use (saw  
none
> in the FAQ)?  I think we will eventually be ordering some of these  
cables
> for our Epsons and IBM Proprinters.

You can't connect a parallel printer, except through a converter box (you  
can get these things, check out a Inmac catalog).  You can only connect  
serial printers to a NeXT.

Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:09:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.235240.10062@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com  
(felix.lugo) writes:
> In article <5357@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
> >Someone asked about eliminating the hardware password.  One
> >proposal put forward was to reverse the battery for a few
> >seconds.  This elicited the following response:
> >
> >--
> >Alan M. Marcum
> >NeXT Tech Support
> >amm@NeXT.COM
> >
> >Private P.S. to P.C.: thanks.
> 
> 	Who else missed the 8^) in my previous posting?  Has this symbol,
> or its many incantations, ceased to convey "not seriously speaking"?  I'm
> sorry if I insulted some of you by composing such a message.  Seems like
> they've lost all sense of humor (probably as a result of 3.0)!
> 
> --Felix
> 
> Private P.S. to A.M.M. and P.C.: G.F.Y.

I did not miss it.  I read it as not as the standard smiley, :-), but as a  
wide-eyed astonishment look.  In any event, I saw it as merely countering the  
claim of 'show me where it says that', and in a matter so grave as blowing up a  
motherboard, I felt it better to err on the side of caution, and repeat myself.

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Next logo
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:22:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.041644.101168@zeus.calpoly.edu>  
mrothste@keiko.acs.calpoly.edu (Rothstein) writes:
> I thought someone said that there were NeXT logo and machine pics in 3.0.
> I can't find them. Could someone tell me where they are and/or send them
> to me.  They might not be on the system (a school machine) so if someone
> would be so kind as to send me a eps NeXT logo I would greatly appreciate
> it.  I need it for a flyer for our NeXT user group meeting.

The logo's where it used to be:

	/NextDeveloper/Examples/PostScript/Logo.eps)

which is good because I use it to generate OD labels from
shell scripts quite often.

I don't see the machine pictures around.  I have some on an
old OD, but I'd like some newer ones.  Anybody got some we
could have on the Archives? 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Call for Volunteers *warning*
Date: 9 Oct 1992 19:59:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: jd-next.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Oct9.014207.8837@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com  
(Jim De Arras) writes:
                          
> 
> I just got my test, and did the first half.  It gives you a short break  
in the  
> middle.  My countdown clock never started, and the app is now frozen.   
> Considerable mental effort and 1/2 hour plus have been wasted.
> 
> Your mileage may vary.  But you've been forewarned.
> 
> Jim


Just finished it...worked fine for me.
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From: tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green)
Subject: Re: News Readers for NS 3.0 and other bitches
Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:39:05 GMT

In article <ANDERSON.92Oct11122320@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes:
>
>You could also build trn (at least you could in 2.x), but it eats up a
>lot of disk space with the threads db.
>

I just built trn-2.2 on my 3.0 machine without a hitch.  Works fine
and you do not have to run mthreads.  There is an option to have the
nntp server do the work for you (via the XTHREAD command).  Of course
your nntp server has to support this.

Todd
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From: eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: right now
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:39:07 GMT

If I understand rightly there is no word processor bundled anymore on the
NeXT. This is a giant step backwards. It means that troff and nroff once
again become the de facto lingua franca, although no one knows how to use
them anymore :-)
Who's gonna do a freeware hack? 

Edmund.
From: Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT sans monitor
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:00:34 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Monty Solomon writes
> Is there any way to run a NeXTcube or NeXTstation without an attached  
monitor?

Yes, it's possible -- Dartmouth's e-mail and name directory systems are  
running on six monitor-less NeXTstations (all in a huge black box,  
complete with black UPSs and disk drives :-)).  The main problem is  
turning the machine on and off -- the power button on the keyboard gets to  
the motherboard via the monitor.  Our hardware guy designed the  
NegaPixel(TM) display -- an on/off switch that plugs into the monitor  
port.  A cheaper alternative is to use a paper clip to short the  
appropriate pins (preferably with a stethoscope to tell you whether the  
machine is running or not :-)).

It may be possible to turn the new ADB-based machines on and off with just  
a keyboard, but I suspect that the keyboard still plugs into the monitor.

Jim Matthews
Dartmouth Software Development