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From: cksvih01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: ALFERD PACKER:  CANNIBAL or SWELL GUY??
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:18:49 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


 
A while back, a bunch of demented forensic scientists were planning to
exhume the bones of Alferd Packer's purported victims and determine 
whether or not his story of the events held up.  I seem to recall reading
a story that screamed "Alferd Packer: Guilty!! Guilty!! Guilty!!", but I
can't recall for certain.  Anyone familar with the facts?



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From: rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss)
Subject: Re: The shifty-eyed shifty-shaped Odo
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:52:04 GMT

In article <C0pGpG.32u@NeoSoft.com>, arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
|> In article <lks17nINNk2g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
|> > 
|> > How did the Cardassians carry Odo aboard disguised as a sportsbag
|> > without noticing his weight?   Or does he shift weight as well as
|> > shifting shape?
|> 
|> The thing that bugged me about that scene is when he reshifted, he
|> shifted back to his usual self.  I mean, like, really.  Let's smuggle
|> ourselves aboard an enemy spacecraft and wander around and be as 
|> consipicuous as possible, eh?



	Really, that part of the episode is full of holes:

1.	If he can change to "anything" why not just change into a gas and
float onto the Cardassian ship.
2.	It looked like he was the gold as well as the bag.  This means that
he had to be given to the Cardasians piece by piece. Sounds nasty to me.
3.	He could also have simply changed into a Cardassian.  They could
have even kindapped one of them for a while, since they were depending
on eventually proving to them that the worm hole did exist and shut itself 
down.
4.	Why go to all this hassle with the Ferengi (sp?) when so many
other options were available?
5.	Why are we discussing this on a.f.u. anyway?
6.	If the Cardassians are familiar with Odo, (they should be if he
was sheriff even when they held the station) then they know his abilities,
and would probably be a bit paranoid about him infiltrating their ship.


	The first episode of DS9 made it obvious that we are going to
have to wait a season or so for it to flesh out and get good, just like
TNG did.

Bob "yeah, I'm a trekkie" Huss
From: hwt@bcarh11a.BNR.CA (Henry Troup)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:46:23 GMT
Reply-To: Henry.Troup@BNR.CA
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <725839438snz@socrates.demon.co.uk>,
twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian A Parkin) writes:
|>Well in good old Holland they have a round red sign with a picture of a dog 
|>pooping in the middle, with NO diagonal red stripe !!

One seen here is the green circled "poop 'n' scoop" sign - three
pictures in the circle:

1) dog doing its thing
2) shovel scooping poop into bag
3) bag being tossed into garbage can

I suspect it's the most complex notion that has yet been expressed in a
non verbal sign. (It's also wrong - one should take the bag 'o poop home
and flush it (sans bag), just like diaper rinsing.  Keep the fecal
bacteria in the sewer system, not in the garbage.)

My wife's aunt tells a story of seeing a woman in a mink coat walking
her dog.  Dog poops.  Woman pulls bread loaf bag out of pocket of mink
coat. (For non-North Americans, a bag about 6" x 18" flat.) Scoops poop
into bag, inverts bag around it, poop goes into pocket of mink coat.

ObUL: Canadians are very law-abiding.
              
Henry Troup - H.Troup@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
	       Legislated morality is the enemy of true morality
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Documented mass cannibalism?
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:24:32 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <C0n2LL.4pI@ibmpcug.co.uk> gtoal@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>Say, wasn't it one of the tenets of this group that there was no
>documentation on the mass practice of cannibalism? ... 

Our tenet is still intact if it's phrased as follows:  there is "no 
credible evidence that any society has ever regularly eaten people for
nourishment."  There's never been any doubt that some societies use
cannibalism for ritual and symbolic purposes, and the recent stories
from the so-called People's Republic of China would seem to fit into
those categories.  There's also no doubt that groups of people 
sometimes do eat human flesh for nutrition in emergencies.  

"Upon what meat doth this our Mao^H^H^HCaesar feed,
That he is grown so great?"  --Cassius

Bruce "a poor source of fiber" Tindall
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Trombones (Was: Re: Upside-down burglar)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 06:59:58 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr) writes:
  
  [Details of some thread deleted]
  
  +What I hear is that trombone players can do it in seven positions.  Only
  +problem is, in the eighth it falls off.

This could be a problem, depending on what you're playing.

Terry "Or it could be a problem in general" Chan
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From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Subject: The Fame Game
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:24:33 GMT

In article <63289@mimsy.umd.edu> sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph
Smith) write
s:
>"who do you know that is famous?"

Hmmm.... Madonna, Elton John, Nadine Gordimer, Jay Leno, Mozart...

Oh, who do I know _personally_? I went to school with Jeff "Shoe"
MacNelly's two kids, and met Mr. MacNelly himself at my graduation.
Cartoonist Steve Kelley is also an alumnus of my high school. And
then, a personal UL--a friend of mine at Boston U. claims that Pat
Benatar used to babysit for her (her name back then was Patricia
Andrejewski... I _think_.)

ObUL: Pat Benatar, Debbie Harry, and Sheena Easton have never been
spotted together. I wonder... naaaaaah!!

Tep
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From: vnelson@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gerald Vernon Nelson)
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:44:12 GMT



>Why's this O'brien guy named Miles.  ST:TNG is consistent about
>using only SI units, while ST:TOS was all the time using regular
>units like feet and miles.  Shouldn't he be called "Meters
>O'Brien".
BZZZT.  TOS used meters and kilometers.

Vern Nelson
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Picric acid?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:47:20 GMT

dbell@cup.portal.com (David J Bell) writes:
: BN>: Picric acid was used in most Ontario high school chemistry courses in
: BN>: the 1940s and 1950s. The problem with it is that over time (years), the
: BN>: stuff crystalizes and becomes _very_ explosive. It's no longer part of
: BN>: any cirriculum (sp?) but some of the stuff is still sitting around in
: BN>: old labs.
: 
: Yeah... In my high school, a friend of mine was *well* known as a 
: borderline pyromaniac. When he applied as a Chem lab assistant in his
: senior year, they almost laughed in his face; told him that if he
: wanted to be a lab assistant, he could damned well accept Biology, and
: handle the frogs, instead of blowing up the school. One of the first
: tasks they set him was cleaning up and organizing the lab stockroom.
: Of course, he found a brand-new, full gallon of picric acid that had
: been sitting around so long that no record existed of it... I think
: it took him a couple of weeks to carry it all out, a Thermos-full
: at a time. Surprisingly enough, no report :{) was ever heard of
: him detonating the stuff!

Sounds like an UL to me. Picric acid is sold as a moistened solid -
usually in 1 lb bottles (for lab use). If a person found a gallon
jug of liquid, there could be any amount from a few milligrams to
a few grams. Picric acid is not very soluble in room temperature
water.

Bill
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Net's Funniest Kitche
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:35:22 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) wrote:
>> The Army is busy trying to remove the remains of a WWI Chem warfare lab
>> & dumpsite in the NW part of the District, near American University.
>> Seems there was a few things left over, and a backhoe found one earlier
>> this week.
> The $1E6 homeowners are all upset. Fiddle-Faddle. The army did not
> start to make all the GOOD stuff until much later...

There were presumably making mustard gas back then, and that's very long-
lived.  There are old mustard gas dumps in the UK where simply handling the
soil can give you chemical burns.  Lewisite is another CW agent of the WW1
era that would still be dangerous: because it's an arsenic compound, its
degradation products wouldn't be much less hazardous than the original
material.  By contrast, the later nerve gases (G and V agents) are much
less stable and degrade into harmless substances.

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From: styri@balder.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: General Hooker and whores (FAQ)
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:07:01 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
: In article <1993Jan7.223420.15308@netcom.com>, jmoody@netcom.com (Jim Moody) writes:
: >Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
: >>>FAQ writes:
: >>>>Tb.US Civil War Gen. Hooker is the source for a common term for streetwalkers.
: >
: >>Probably F, unless you have a citation.  The Oxford English Dictionary
: >>has a quotation from 1845 using the term.  Not-yet-general Hooker would...
: >
: >Is it possible that this stems from a famous incident in the civil war
: >when, I believe it was Hooker, was so outraged at the behavior of
: >Southern women in the occupied cities toward Union Officers and troops
: >that he issued an order stating that any woman who insulted a Union
: >officer was to be treated as a lady of the town, or a lady of the streets?
: >
: 	That incident happened in New Orleans.  Probably would
: have been 'lady of the boulevards'.

Nope, the words used were 'ladies of New Orleans' and 'woman of the town'.

It's only one sentence so I'll quote the entire proclamation:

"As the Officers and Soldiers of the United Stats have been subject
to repeated insults from the women calling themselves ladies of New
Orleans, in return for the most scrupulous non-interference and
courtesy on our part, it is ordered that hereafter when any Female
shall, by word, gesture, or movement, insult or show contempt for
any officer or soldier of the United States, she shall be regarded
and held liable to be treated as a woman of the town plying her
avocation."

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From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Net's Funniest Kitchen Disasters
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:30:59 GMT
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor

In article <y81a0i8@Unify.Com> grp@Unify.com (Greg Pasquariello) writes:
>calcium carbide

I was very pleased to discover that "Big Bang" toy cannon are still
available.  Small ones are $29.95 and large ones $69.95 at Eric Fuch's
notable hobby store near the foot of Tremont Street in Boston.

These devices, which I had assumed had been legislated into oblivion,
include a little pot of water, a tiny spoon, and a flint-and-steel
sparker.  One measures out a bit of calcium carbide with the spoon,
allows it to dissolve in the water, and uses the sparker to ignite
the resultant vapor.  The resulting kablooie is delightful.  I would
have bought one for my young nephew just for the fun of showing him
how to work it, but the thought of an enraged sister-in-law stayed my
hand.

In younger days, I proved that carbide can lift coffee cans to surprising
levels.  It still seems to be a good source of loud noises and minimal
risk.

Phil "Actually, Bill Nelson is the afu'er who knows how to make
loud noises" Gustafson

>the explosion occurs.  I don't know if there is a reaction or not, nor will
>I attempt to find out.
>
>BTW, they called these things "fireflies".  It's amazing what one remembers!
>
>
>> The best thing about the books is, someone who tries some of the procedures
>> listed is likely to kill themselves before they can harm anyone else.
>> 
>> Bill
>
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>
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From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:50:13 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1993Jan6.033253.26045@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>,
derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:

>Douglas Adams Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster <tm> was a very good try ( I
>have drunk one and it was indeed nice)

And here I thought PGGB's (not to be confused with GGGB's, a net.legend
over on rec.humor, but I digress...) were _cocktails_, not teas --
and fictional ones at that. If such a drink exists, how do I get or
make it? And the first person who says, "Take the juice from one
bottle of the Ol' Janx Spirit" has _got_ to go!

Tep
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From: grp@Unify.com (Greg Pasquariello)
Subject: Re: Net's Funniest Kitchen Disasters
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 21:20:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.205541.28122@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
> dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard) writes:
> : 
> :        I've heard that it is possible to coat sodium in gelitin so that it
> : won't react with water -- for a while at least.  The trick I had heard was
> : that you toss these into a person's gas tank and then eventually the small
> : amount of water in the gas will disolve the geletin and react with the
> : sodium -- causing the gas tank, the car and the occupants to blow up. 
> : Works better with a gas tank that isn't filled to the brim I gather, need
> : some amount of air to react with the gas.  Not a very sure fire <a hmm>
> 
> Yeah - that is what they claim. However, you need water - the sodium does
> not react with gasoline. It is also very unlikely to work. I would expect
> the gasoline fume concentration to be far too high - not enough oxygen
> for much of a reaction to occur.
> 
> : method of killing someone, since you can't be certain of when the geletin
> : is going to disolve, whether the person will be in the car at the time,
> : etc.  I think the source for this is "The Poor Man's James Bond" or the
> : "Anarchist's Cookbook" or something like that.
> 
> It was in one or the other. Such things only work in their imagination.
> They should have tried it - they would have been disappointed. It is not
> too surprising that it is such books - they are both riddled with such
> stupid and inaccurate ideas.
> 


Actually  the "recipe" was a bit different, though I'm not sure if this would
work either...

It was something like putting metallic sodium into one gelatin (pill) capsule
and calcium carbide into another.  Presumably when the capsules dissolve
the explosion occurs.  I don't know if there is a reaction or not, nor will
I attempt to find out.

BTW, they called these things "fireflies".  It's amazing what one remembers!


> The best thing about the books is, someone who tries some of the procedures
> listed is likely to kill themselves before they can harm anyone else.
> 
> Bill

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From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: extreme strength (was: mom lifting car..)
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1993Jan02.225017.2497@crash>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:08:15 GMT

jvarley@crash.cts.com (J.J. Varley) writes:
[reformatted for screen less than 1 billion characters wide]
>This sounds possible.  Assuming that the arms are at a right angle
>to the body, when you raise your arm up, you're using your
>pectoralis muscle.

Perhaps you mean "arms parallel to the body".  I find I use my
biceps to lift things when my arms are at a right angle to my
body.  I've noticed my legs are much bigger than my arms, so I
use legs and a straight vertical back to lift heavy stuff.

>This is one of the largest muscles in the upper
>body, and since I, a teenager can lift
>100 pounds with a fair amount of effort in that movement, I'd say
>that a drug-crazed fully grown person could do the same, without
>permanent damage.

Drug-crazing has nothing to do with strength.  And I'm sure
you'll outgrow being temporally challenged.

ObUL:  Steroids cause acne.

Jon "Committee for properly formatted postings." Papai
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From: leecr@microsoft.com (Lee Crocker)
Subject: Re: googol
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:03:30 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

>davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) writes:

>>I remember hearing once that a 'google' is 10^100 or something like that.  Is
>>this for real?  If so, says who?  If not, has anyone else heard this?  Does
>>it have any mathematical use?

According to two sources I consider reliable (John Allen Paulos and Martin
Gardner--especially the latter), the term "googol" was coined by mathematician
Edward Kasner, and is exactly 10^100.  Similarly, the term "googolplex" is
10^googol (a MUCH larger number).  While the former is probably greater than
the number of particles in the known universe by today's physics, it is quite
small when dealing with combinatorial mathematics.  For example, the number
of ways 1000 coins can be flipped is 2^1000, or about 10^300, or a googol
cubed.  A googolplex is far too unimaginably large for anything but Ramsey
theory, for which it is probably too small to be useful.

ObUL: Gorillas and Chimpanzees have similar capacities for language as
human children.

ObBookPlug: Martin Gardner's _Science: Good, Bad, and Bogus_, in which
he debunks those fraudulent PBS specials about primate speech research,
parapsycology, and other fields of pseudoscience.

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From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Subject: Re: SNAFU list
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:07:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.170941@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca>, someone writes:

>I seem to remember someone on here looking for a list like this a while
>ago.  It's the most comprehensive I've yet found:
>
>COMMFU          complete monumental military fuck up
>FUBAR           fucked up beyond all recognition
                fucked up beyond all repair
>FUBB            fucked up beyond belief
>FUMTU           fucked up more than usual
>G.F.U.          general fuck up

Sheesh! Someone forgot FURRFU! (I'm I close, anyone?)

Tep
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