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From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tom rides an odd bike!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:26:15 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <1992Dec17.173524.7309@pica.army.mil> tcora@pica.army.mil writes:
>Actually, a well-designed header will "suck"! The design of the pipe is such
>that the exhaust flow from one cylinder creates a vacuum timed such that it
>helps to suck the combustion products out of another when that cylinder's
>exhaust valve opens.
>
>Needless to say, this doesn't work very will on straight-piped harleys.

Except within the RPM range where it does work:

>And it
>really only works well within a particular rpm band (generally; long, small
>diameter pipes give low rpm grunt, short, large diameter pipes give high rpm
>power).

The style comes from drag racing bikes, which tend to have
straight pipes that are somewhat shorter than street pipes
and thus work at faster engine speeds.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: What do I do with a new bike that has a toasted frame/forks?
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:44:27

"bloom" == bloom  <bloom@inland.com> writes:
bloom> Well you can buy the wreckage back from State Farm and try to fix it 
bloom> up yourself or sell the parts.  You contact the adjuster and tell 
bloom> him  you want to make a bid.  If your bid is higher than the 

They're going to come up with the market used price and the market
salvage price, and if I think they're fair, I get the difference.

bloom> However, you may 
bloom> find additional damage from the bike being towed back by the 
bloom> insurance company or intentional damage done by the bike shop. 

Well, I gave it a good look over, but I didn't try cranking it.  Which
I will do as soon as I get home.
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do I do with a new bike that has a toasted frame/forks?
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:12:57 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <1992Dec16.152247.24188@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:

>Could build a really badass go-kart.

I used to think about this for my 100cc dirt bike I had when I was 16. 

I don't know why I keep talking about this in the past tense.

jim
-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* 1987 Cagiva Alazzurra 650 (so sweet)    Insert witty, profound, humorous, *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | elitist, esoteric, plagiarized, acrimonious, * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | generalizing, and/or pedantic remark here.   *
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:31:59 GMT
 <1992Dec9.201050.671@spdc.ti.com> <djm.724126956@morpheus> <Stafford-131292153437@stafford.winona.msus.edu>
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>In article <djm.724126956@morpheus>, djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David
>Maconochie) wrote:
>> 
>> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>> 
>> >   I am 38 years old, 5'7", 195 lb, and my blood pressure, though not high,
>> >is not far from being so. I eat too much, drink lots of beer, and don't 
>> >exercise enough. In short, I will, in the future, be a poor health risk
>> >and a possible public burden. Should we, therefore, legislate nutrition
>> >
>> stuff deleted
>>
>> Well if you were paying your own health insurance, you would be charged
>> vastly more than me on account of your weight, blood pressure etc. As it is,
>> the rest of your firm pays extra for you.  The question here is should they?
>
>David, are you going to suggest next that there be a physical ideal
>to which we should all strive and then propose legislation to
>enforce it?

Great idea, John.  Then maybe I could lose those twenty pounds
I want to get rid of.  But I'd be in serious trouble if they
decided the ideal height was 6'2" or anything else over 5'8".

8-)
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:40:23 GMT


>If the "cost to society" freaks were serious about optimization, they
>would ban tobbacco products, fried foods, and alcohol.  Personal
>liberty be damned, after all, people should be willing to take
>reasonable precautions against incuring medical costs in return for
>having society there for them.

    Social burden, optimazing cost etc. has nothing to do with the
situation. You have to think lika a politician. You can tax fried
food, alcohol, tobacco, and helmet sales. The only way you can tax
not using a helmet is to make it mandatory to use one and the fine
people who don't. This and late penalties are the only way to make
a tax on the not doing of something. With all the fitness and save
the environment trends, I imagine they are having fits trying to find
a way to tax those who walk to the market for the not burning (not
paying tax on) of gas. Don't be surprized if you joggers start to
encounter toll sidewalks!



Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

 
==============================================================

 "Acid:   A substance that allows you to visit strange places
  without a passport"
                        OZ Biker 1992
***************************************************************



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos
From: mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com ( Phil Mueller )
Subject: Re: Durability
Keywords: why
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:05:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.194050.26187@serval.net.wsu.edu> johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns) writes
>Why are bikes and cars so incredibly fragile?    
>                                             
>I mean, we would like to think that if we could get our bike or car, any
>bike or any car, to say, 100,000 miles, without major problems we are 
>having a near mystical experience in reliability.  Bullshit.  At an
>average of 50 mph, 100,000 miles is only 2000 hours of operation.  
 ^^^^^^^
There's your problem.  A bike or car could run at 50 mph almost forever,
but it runs at all different speeds.  Like 0.  Then in the morning when
you start it up ( with no oil ) RRIIPP!!  Drop another 100 miles off the 
life ( I'm not exaggerating.  If anything I'm understating ).

And then you get into stop-and-go traffic at 40 ( Fahrenheit ) and the 
engine doesn't get properly warmed up.  Then you get into stop-and-go
traffic at 40 ( Celsius ) and the engine overheats.


>That's nothing compared to the reliability of many mechanical systems. 
>                                                                          
>So what is it with bikes and cars that makes them so fragile.    
>                                                                         
>What's even scarier is how many bikes/cars can not even get to 50,000
>miles reliably.                                                
>                                                               

Also you don't have professionals maintaining them.



Phil, the fake Denizen.
Phil, the line stealer.

-- 
Phil Mueller    mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com
The preceeding opinions are not necessarily those of Intergraph Corporation.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
Subject: Anybody read this?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:34:21 GMT


Has anybody read "A Twist of the Wrist Vol 2"?  If you have, does it
contain any new information, or is it just a re-hash of the original?
I've seen it advertised in the back of CW for the past few months and
I'm curious.  The original has been a good source of useful info.

thanks,

Mark Crowder  "I'm sorry my karma ran over your dogma"  crowder@spdc.ti.com 
Dallas, Tx                    88 BMW R100RS         Texas Instruments, Inc.
"If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%"
	       -- from my button collection
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:24:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> > It wouldn't sound loud, but your overall sound pressure would still
-> be >there, so you'd go just as deaf over long exposure.

> Say what?  If you play a waveform 180 degrees out of phase with an
> identical waveform, it cancels it.  Sum pressure of identical peak
> and valley = nada.  In the real world, "reduction," rather than
> "cancellation" is all you can hope for.  However, the same principle
> holds.  You can't have less noise w/out less sound pressure.

 You're missing the point slightly.  The modulation isn't the problem -
it's the overall sound pressure.  That's why electronic gun muffs are
plain old sound muffs; they just play the adjusted sound inside the
muff.  Trying to use an open system and phase cancellation wouldn't work
well.

 Acoustics 101.
                                                                 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kjberte@cray.com (Kurt Bertelsen)
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Reply-To: kjberte@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:18:59 CST


In article 10815@advtech.uswest.com, ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine) writes:
>I have a radar gun that I no longer use and would like to 
>see it go to a good home. I don't have any idea what brand
>it is. Here's the details:

[description deleted]

>-- 
>Larry T. Paine  <|>  ltp@USWest.COM  <|>  (303)541-6148
>   DoD #789      


Cool!  Now I don't have to use my old Radio Scrap detector (which 
leaks like a sieve, and no has directional control) when I play 
"Trolling for Taillights."

---
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Kurt Bertelsen              I am Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod.
kjberte@cray.com            I was born in 1518 in the village of 
DoD# 0538                     Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel.
86 Miniceptor               And...I am IMMORTAL.   - Highlander

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: New Designs (Re: Durability)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:12:37 GMT

In article <RTARAZ.92Dec17130702@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>I was thinking that since alot of wear is caused by starting up the
>engine when the oil is in the pan, can there be an electric oil pump
>to pump the oil before starting the engine.
>so, you turn the ignition to on and leave it for a few seconds and
>wait till the electric pump pumps some oil around and then start up
>the engine.
Or on some bikes, turn the kill switch off and crank the starter for a few 
seconds.  This gets some oil into the motor, but may have a life-shortening
effect on the starter and other stuff.  I'm not sure, but it seems to me that
a more feasible way to get longer motor life would be to change the oil
regularly and often, and not to ride off really hard with the motor cold.
I remember something about cold motors not minding being driven off, just if
you thrash it, it may cause some unnecessary wear.  Since the oil wedges
(not wedgies) take all of the load in the bearings, as long as oil pressure
is up and there is oil in all of the bearings, it doesn't matter whether the
thing is cold or warm.

CP Tomes
Oil?  I don need no steenkin oil!!
From: adis@adis.msk.su ( )
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: SOS! SOS! SEND ME ADDRESS "PASE CAPTURE CORPORATION". PleaseL
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 01:00:07 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: KIAE
Reply-To: adis@adis.msk.su

---
>>> ATISNET-GATEWAY: NETCat (Release 3.04/26Apr92) <<<

MsgID: SCHs01106-21217ne0.HAV/28
 From: Andrey Shitikov <@KI.SHAV>
  Org: KIEV
 Lang: ENG.


HI !
Give me, please, E-mail and full post address "PACE CAPTURE
CORPORATION".
Thank you very mach.
 Sincerely.  ANDREY SHITIKOV


<EOF>


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: correction on New Biker
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:22:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.152613.25437@athena.mit.edu> madhatta@plume.mit.edu (Tom Yates) writes:
|In article <BzErFq.DJ9@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
|>And in future years, these "firemen" will move on from cars and take to
|>burning books.
|
|too late, blaine, it's already documented.
|
|the book?  Interstate 451.

  Uh... Tom...  Wasn't that _Fahrenheit 451_?  Or did I miss some subtle joke?

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: HKORNFELD@BUPULA.BU.EDU (HARDY KORNFELD)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: ? trick parts for new VFRs
Date: 10 Dec 92 15:34:20 GMT
Organization: BOSTON UNIVERSITY, Pulmonary Center
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Periodically I ask the world if there are any new trick bits for late
model (i.e. '90 and later) Honda VFR750s.  I have a red '90 with steel
lines, Progressive springs, Euro rear signal lights, and a Fiamm horn.
I am looking for anything that might get weight off.  There is a jet 
kit available and slip ons or full exhaust systems from some (including
Two Brothers) aftermarket producers.

Is there anyone on the net from Europe or Japan with Special Knowledge?
I would particularly like a lightweight aftermarket fairing and an 
exhaust system that let me keep the center stand. 

Reply to hkornfeld@bupula.bu.edu

Thanks.  H. Kornfeld.
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 65+ mph turns
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:31:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 17588@wam.umd.edu, delilah@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
>however, this force acts  
>on the bottom of the tires; in a right hand turn, it pushes to the right, 
>which attempts to give the entire bike a rolling motion to the left. the 
>reason you lean is to counteract this moment (torque) induced, with a  
>counter-torque; by shifting your center of mass to the inside (the right  
>in this example), the downward force of gravity tries to induce a rolling 
>motion to the right; the bike doesn't flip over to the outside. 

Leaning a motorcycle does more than provide a gravity-induced torque to
counteract the contact_patch-to-CG moment arm induced torque.  It puts
the tires in a position where different parts of the contact patch have
different radii about the hub, inducing camber thrust.  It places the
steering geometry in a position where the rake and trail force
displacement of the front tire into the turn.

>look, the reason for hanging off while turning is simple... it's not that
>it lets you make tighter turns, it lets you make the turns at higher
>speeds.

Only where lean angle is the limiting factor in your turning ability.
In that case, it lets you make the same turn at higher speed, which
also means you can make a tighter turn at a lower speed (same max. lean
angle, which is what hanging off optimizes).

>damn, doesn't anyone but me remember basic physics?

Yes, but are you sure you do?  :^)

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard)
Subject: Re: Locking the rear wheel. (Was: First ride in rain ...)
Organization: /u1/duke/.organization
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:13:39


In article <arturo.724142383@infmx> arturo@informix.com (Arturo Vega) writes:

   that after locking the rear wheel, it's not a good thing to release
   the brake as there's a better than even chance of high-siding.

   Thing is, in my ignorance I've been doing just this for a while now;
   call me lucky, but I've yet to high-side as a result. The rear
   end of the bike *always* slides out to the right, and I always
   get off the brakes and it snaps back into line.

   Is the danger of high-siding related to how far out of line the
   rear end gets? Speed? 

Yes, those two things.  If you're not going very fast, and/or you're
not too far out of line, it'll just snap back when you let go.  If
you're going too fast and/or you're way of line, the snap will toss
you.

This isn't rocket science--the faster you're going and further out of
line you are, the higher the acceleration when the rear end comes back
in.

The reason it's *always* bad to let go is 'cause you can't necessarily
tell if you're far enough out to high-side, and so it's a dangerous
habit.

--
Duke Robillard, DoD #0130, duke@osf.org
angst.motorcycles: "We may be doomed, but at least the adrenaline keeps us awake"
From: starfish@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 88' katana for sale
Date: 17 Dec 1992 02:58:47 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu



In article <1gj8o3INNn37@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> you write:
:>
:>		1988 Suzuki Katana
:>		600 cc 86 hp
:>		white/red
:>		10 kmi
:>		$2900
:>
:>
:>812-235-3695 after 1 am
:>_____________________________________________________________
:>
:>
:>
:>		YOU CAN CHANGE THE WORLD !
:>
:>
:>But can you change the oil and put in new spark plugs ?
:>_____________________________________________________________

What modifications did you do to your Katana to bring it up that much
horsepower over stock? What dyno did you check it with?

-Alan Waterman(CBR600F2LN)
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Roasting Headnut's on a striped down bike.......
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:23:30 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

In article <62803@mimsy.umd.edu>, I replied to a post and asked:
>Along this same thread, which expands more when heated, aluminum or iron?

In the very next article in my active reader, jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM
(Jeff Deeney) replies:
>Aluminum expands at a rate of 21ppm/degC, steel at about 16ppm/degC.

Damn, how does he do that?   8^)

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
1982 CBX (White Lightning), 1982 GS850G (Suzibago), 1976 CJ360T (Little Honda)
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,                               =o&>o
=o&>o                   you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
From: ellert@ds2.uh.cwru.edu (Ed Ellert)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:57:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ds2.uh.cwru.edu

matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:

>  I don't mean to imply a 'it's their own damn fault' attitude here.  I just 
>think it would be wiser to educate people than simply remove the hazards.  

Hmmm...sounds like a warning label is in order here.  New parents must
be labelled, in baby talk, with a warning to their children: "Warning,
parents have been shown in clinical studies to cause abuse, neglect, and
in some cases, death of their children."

Ed Ellert
DoD #1110
"Derivatives or Differences"
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:51:37 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:

>>>>>|> Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer.
>>>>>so how much for the bra? my first offer is $1

>>>>Next bid is $2
>>>>Couldn't resist.

>>>You guys obviously have not a clue of what a good bra goes for these days...

>> Nobody has inquired about condition yet.

>Yeah!! Is it a front loader? back loader? strapless? what percentage
>is lace? color? make? model? type material? is it 'sheer'? see through?
>*gawd* I feel the urge for a cold shower!! ;-)

I really shouldn't blow coffee out my nose so many times in one
morning.  The very notion of using a worldwide electronic computer
network to auction off the used lingere of a badass biker chick is enough
to give me uncontrollable fits of rolling on the floor laughing.  Some
accountant somewhere is now reading a piece of paper that says we
pay $beaucoup to subscribe to The Internet because of the valuable technical
information and professional contacts it brings our employees,
allowing them to increase their productivity nad thereby make the
company more profitable.  <guffaw! choke! I can't stand it...>

I bid $5, regardless of features, for any bra actually worn by Jody within 
the past month which has not been damaged by fire, flood, famine, earthquake,
tornado, mudslide, other natural disaster, acts of civil disobedience,
or other damage exceeding "normal wear and tear".

I presume that a portion of the proceeds will be donated to the
Motorcycle Heritage Musem?

("Look, Myrtle, now they're auctioning off a bra on rec.motorcycles...")
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG             |"The good news is that Clinton will have to
 Olivetti North America/Spokane,WA | work hard to do worse than Bush in terms
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439            | of economic policy.  The bad news is that
 Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | he will probably manage to do so"-Ed Ipser
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:32:26 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	My feeling towards helmets is that we should treat them like
leathers and boots when you ride. Sure the equipment is optional,
but it will save your ass if you get in to a bind. Some people like
to go w/o a helmet, others like to wear a helmet and almost nothing
else. (tank tops, shorts, and high tops don't count as clothes on a
bike to me...) It is a matter of personal choice. You could always
say that all the helmeted genes will be deemed "less-fit" than
those individuals with helmeted genes...(a little athropological
humor)...thus in keeping with the theory of natural selection the
non-helmeted genese will become scarce.  I won't go in to any of
the motorcycle related Situation Dependent Receptivity thoughts as
I have not the time, but perhaps another anthro person out there
could help....

			Ryan Gill