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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: General NZ info needed
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 16:06:11 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater) writes:

> NEW ZEALAND LEADS THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD in burglaries and violent crime!!!
> 
> Assaults using force are most common in NZ, Australia, Canada and the
> US.  The former Czechoslovakiam NZ, Australia and the US top the list
> for burglary.
> 
> Let's have some debate on this -- why are things so bad in EnZed???
> 
 Simple to quote John Banks, Minister of Police "The Moari's" (grin)


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From: clive@otago.ac.nz (Clive Boock)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Personal registration plates
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:32:16 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <2749017@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg) writes:
>> I  wonder  if  you   have  the  possibility   to  choose/buy  personal
>> registration numbers for cars in New Zealand?  I saw a Mercedes 450 SL
>> in Christchurch  during my  first  visit to  NZ with  the registration
>> "MY450SL".....
> 
As well as the more inane personalised plates  i.e. 4KYLIE and such like the
ones that have caught my eye around Dunedin have been, BENHUR, on a Mitsubishi
Chariot, and, ZCARS, on a Ford MK3 Zephyr. 
  This last one will only be amusing to those of us who remember the BBC
television drama of the late 60's  which featured a police station setting and
the preferred police car of the show was a Mk3 Zephyr.  
  The company which has the franchise for the plates now advertises on
television by pointing out the investment value of certain plates, i.e. V8 is
now said to be worth more than $10,000. 

Clive H. Boock, University of Otago, New Zealand.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Mountain Rock II - Field Report
From: gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (andy gardner)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:03:39 GMT
Reply-To: gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
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In article <XXRRXB3w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz>, dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
>meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz (Red) writes:
>> Try standing on your head to see the arsehole of the world's perspective
>Do you live in Makara? THAT has to be the Arsehole of New Zealand....

No no no! Karori is where the Enema would go!

Andy Gardner,
Wellington, New Zealand
Te Whanga-nui-a-Tara, Aotearoa
From: mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ home cooking cuisine
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:52:56 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1993Jan25.093457.13405@waikato.ac.nz>, hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> In article <1jrl75INN3a4@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Donald Mackie <donald_mackie@med.umich.edu> writes:
>> Subject: NZ home cooking cuisine
>> From: nganp
>> Date: 22 Jan 93 18:02:24 GMT
>> In article <1993Jan22.180224.12524@ohsu.edu> , nganp@ohsu.edu writes:
>>>Hi
>>  I invite suggestions as to  
>>>what constitutes NZ home cooking 'cuisine' 
>> 
>> Traditional (and much appreciated by our guests) roast lamb with roast
>> potatoes, roast pumpkin (new idea for most Americans) roast parsnip and
>> peas. Trim with gravy (NOT 'au jus') and mint sauce. Stud the lamb with
> 
> Don't roast the peas though :) Steam them (Or boil them till they go muchy.
> Either way are nice :)
> 
> Recipe for Gravy needed?
> 
> DON'T WASH THE ROASTING DISH!!!
> 
> 1. Empty most of the oil from the roast into a disk (Save it in the fridge for
>    later roasts).
> 2. Put the dish on the stove and turn onto med-high.
> 3. Brown some flour (Not self raising. I did that once :) in the disk slightly.
> 4. Add water a little at a time stiring well to avoid lumps. 

4A. Horrible Omission: lob in some Vegemite/Marmite for flavour and 
colour

> 5. Simmer/Boil the crap out of it for a while, stiring of course. (Till
>    somebody else has dished everything else up).
> 6. Plaster liberally over your food and enjoy...
> 
> I found it amazing a while back (Many years) that even many Kiwi's didn;'t know
> how to make gravy.

So it seems!!

> 
> 
> [Rest deleted. It was making me hungry]....
> 
> Hamish Marson, SCMS, University of Waikato             |
> hamish@waikato.ac.nz.  Fax +64 7 8384066               | Computers are only 
> Disclaimer: Remember. You heard it here first!         |   Human.....
> 		  
> It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly unless one has plenty of work to do.
From: bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (William Francis Bennett)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Moa hype
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:18:18 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Call me a cynic, but surely a local publican has a vested interest in hoards of
camerapersons, reporters, tourists and other types converging on his district
hoping to find a Moa.
 
Put it this way. The Scottish Tourist Board has always looked favourably on
Loch Ness Monster Hysteria.

Having said that....I've heard you can get odds of 1000 to 1 that they don't
find a live Moa with Ladbrooks bookmakers in London. Can anyone tell me more
terms of this - I think a $50 punt might pay nicely for my retirement fund.

As the Pizza Hut advert says:
Give me Moa, Give me Moa


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From: paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: General NZ info needed
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 20:26:24 ECT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Office in Vienna, Austria

adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:

> Hello.  My son is doing a report on New Zealand for his 7th grade social 
> studies class.  I'm looking for some general information on New Zealand,
> i.e.  climate, economy, population, topography etc.

Well, here's some information that most New Zealander's won't like.  An
article appeared in the Guardian (London) of 26 January reporting on an
international survey of crime coordinated by the Dutch justice ministry
in the Hague.  It was compiled from interviews in 1991 and 1988 with
about 2,000 people in 20 industrialised countries.  More than 50,000
people were interviewed by telephone.

The figures represent the percentage of those who considered themselves
to be the victims of the types of crime featured, which is felt to be
more accurate than police statistics (since I expect much crime is
unreported.)

NEW ZEALAND LEADS THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD in burglaries and violent crime!!!!

Assaults using force are most common in NZ, Australia, Canada and the
US.  The former Czechoslovakiam NZ, Australia and the US top the list
for burglary.

Let's have some debate on this -- why are things so bad in EnZed???

--
paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Home Office in Vienna, Austria
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Holden Camira Info Needed
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:23:59 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:

> PS. Its a 1984 JB series SLE. Either NZ or Aussie assembled. (Plate inside 
> says GM New Zealand, but GM say Aussie because of the computer etc.

In all likelihood it's a rebadged Isuzu Gemini.
From: is4@doc.ic.ac.uk (I Stekl)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: JOB HUNTING
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:40:47 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak6.doc.ic.ac.uk


	I am looking for job in New Zealand . I have BSc and 2 years expirience in
computer science. I am expecting to obtain MSc in Computer science in 09.1993 at
Imperial Colledge London . Any information wellcame.

	Stekl Ivan
From: Geoff@equinox.gen.nz (Geoff Mccaughan)
Subject: Re: NZ home cooking cuisine
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Distribution: world
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Date: 26 Jan 93 17:45:25 +1200
Organization: Equinox Networks

hamish@waikato.ac.nz wrote:
>In article <1993Jan25.105256.2128@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>,
mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>> 
>> 4A. Horrible Omission: lob in some Vegemite/Marmite for flavour and 
>> colour
>> 

>Ug! Gross. How awful. Then it just tastes like marmite. The colour and
flavour
>comes from all the bits of meat, potato, pumpkin, kumera etc on the bottom
>of the pan. If you have to resort to that sort of garbage above then you
>aren't doing it properly. If you are really desperate try some gravy
browning
>or stock cubes.

A recently-married guy comes home one night to find his wife has prepared
her first-ever roast dinner. He tucks in with gusto, but finds a small piece
of paper in his gravy. Carefully unfloding it he reads:
"Slowly, slowly, cape St Vincent sank beneath the glowing sea."

"What's this?" he asks his wife.

She replies "The recipe said 'if the gravy is too pale, add a little
Browning.'"

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From: bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (William Francis Bennett)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ home cooking cuisine
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:06:11 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
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In article <9.479.uupcb@stargate.actrix.gen.nz>, chris.rolleston@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (Chris Rolleston)  writes:
>
>> For desert, I love my Pavlova with fresh kiwifruit or traditional
>> Apple Pie.
>
>He might have a hard time convincing americans that Apple Pie is
>traditional kiwi cuisine, maybe if it was made with ENZA apples.
>

Bah! *As American as Apple Pie* Humbug.

The English were eating Apple pie before America was invented ;-)


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From: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: NZ home cooking cuisine
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Stargate BBS - Wellington, NZ - +64 4 566-2157
Reply-To: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 

chris.rolleston@stargate.actrix.gen.nz writes:

CR.He might have a hard time convincing americans that Apple Pie is
  .traditional kiwi cuisine, maybe if it was made with ENZA apples.

Well, as I work for the NZ Apple and Pear Board, I was pointing out 
that "I" like Apple Pie.... but we all know who like it the most don't 
we? :-)

               David

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From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ home cooking cuisine
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:45:54 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan22.180224.12524@ohsu.edu>, nganp@ohsu.edu writes:
> Hi
> 
> I'm a New Zealander working in the States for a while. I've asked several  
> friends around to my apartment for a NZ dinner. I invite suggestions as to  
> what constitutes NZ home cooking 'cuisine' so that my guests can  
> experience an authentic taste of Aotearoa.
> 
> --
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Howsabout Hokey Pokey ice cream and pavlova for dessert?  (hey while we're
at it why don't we have a huge discussion about whether pav is from NZ or
aussie?)
From: kirk@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: maori speech synthesis
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:14:51 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

I'm trying to find out what research if any has been done on  Maori
speech synthesis recognition or other computer-based language synthesis.
Also does anyone know of the existence of a Maori frequency word list or
other Maori word usage statistics? 


Thanks in anticipation,
krik

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.new-zealand:3456 aus.general:2698
From: wcc@cup.portal.com (wcc - usa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,aus.general
Subject: Re: Help wanted, looking 4 tips
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:38:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1jmcg3INN1rm@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de>

>Is there anybody out there who can help me to get to the STATES, 
>AUSTRALIA or NEW ZEALAND as cheap and as long as possible ?
>I need to know all about getting there, by ship or,if necessary,
>by plane; working there (unskilled) and living there (houses,
>flats, hostels aso). Time: between april and august 1993. Main 
>problem: MONEY!!, therefor as cheap as possible. I'll be glad
>about any kind of tip, address or something like that.  THANKS, 
>shark.

Have you forgotten to think about getting into such a country with
no money and no "Official" working permit ?? 

The cheapest way to get there is to swim. (SOunds like that's the
only way you can afford to go!)  Or  more realisticly hitch a ride
on a cargo ship. (Also try the courier companies for courier flights -
IE: FEDEX, UPS, and other smaller companies)

As for working within the country, be careful - some employers will
"turn in" people trying to get work illegally. (Especially when all
these countries are suffereing from their own unemployment problems).

Save more money _BEFORE_ you leave home !!

Rgds,
Darryl Harvey

(My $0.02 worth - Ooops, I can't say that any more.  My $0.05 worth!)
.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: MOA SIGHTED!!
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:20:46 +1300
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan28.084451.587@otago.ac.nz>, clive@otago.ac.nz (Clive Boock) writes:
>    The funniest thing to come out of this story so far is a women from a
> wildlife park on the West Coast claiming to have two "moas" in captivity, when
> television cameras were taken to film these creatures they were taken to a shed
> where two "mowers" were proudly displayed, complete with feathers!!

Tonight's news shows a sign (Christchurch I think), saying "Moa Crossing
Ahead" - sure enough, just up the road two hand mowers are being taken for
a walk across the road. The tv news teams are having a great time (I don't
think they have had as much fun since regional news programmes were
dumped), but there can't be all that many possible variations on the
moa/mower theme.

The only people who don't find it funny are the trampers who took the 
photo.

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From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ home cooking cuisine
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:34:57 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1jrl75INN3a4@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Donald Mackie <donald_mackie@med.umich.edu> writes:
> Subject: NZ home cooking cuisine
> From: nganp
> Date: 22 Jan 93 18:02:24 GMT
> In article <1993Jan22.180224.12524@ohsu.edu> , nganp@ohsu.edu writes:
>>Hi
>  I invite suggestions as to  
>>what constitutes NZ home cooking 'cuisine' 
> 
> Traditional (and much appreciated by our guests) roast lamb with roast
> potatoes, roast pumpkin (new idea for most Americans) roast parsnip and
> peas. Trim with gravy (NOT 'au jus') and mint sauce. Stud the lamb with

Don't roast the peas though :) Steam them (Or boil them till they go muchy.
Either way are nice :)

Recipe for Gravy needed?

DON'T WASH THE ROASTING DISH!!!

1. Empty most of the oil from the roast into a disk (Save it in the fridge for
   later roasts).
2. Put the dish on the stove and turn onto med-high.
3. Brown some flour (Not self raising. I did that once :) in the disk slightly.
4. Add water a little at a time stiring well to avoid lumps. 
5. Simmer/Boil the crap out of it for a while, stiring of course. (Till
   somebody else has dished everything else up).
6. Plaster liberally over your food and enjoy...

I found it amazing a while back (Many years) that even many Kiwi's didn;'t know
how to make gravy.


[Rest deleted. It was making me hungry]....

Hamish Marson, SCMS, University of Waikato             |
hamish@waikato.ac.nz.  Fax +64 7 8384066               | Computers are only 
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It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly unless one has plenty of work to do.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: NZ home cooking cuisine
From: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (David Benfell) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Stargate BBS - Wellington, NZ - +64 4 566-2157


nganp@ohsu.edu writes:

NU.I'm a New Zealander working in the States for a while. I've asked several
  .friends around to my apartment for a NZ dinner. I invite suggestions as to
  .what constitutes NZ home cooking 'cuisine' so that my guests can
  .experience an authentic taste of Aotearoa.

Hi there... I am writing you all the way from New Zealand (Wellington).

My idea of a traditional Kiwi Dinner are of the Roast variety, such as
Roast Lamb, Pork etc... with Roast Potatoes, Roast Pumpkin, Peas,
gravy, mint sauce (do you get that over there) ...

For desert, I love my Pavlova with fresh kiwifruit or traditional
Apple Pie.

Hope this gives you some ideas.

Where are you from originally?

Cheers

               David
                                       
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From: am5@cec2.wustl.edu (Avik  Mukherjee)
Subject: New Zealand? Violent?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:42:59 GMT

NEW ZEALAND VIOLENT? NO WAY!!! I can't see Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch,
or Dunedin being MORE violent that New York, Los Angeles, Detroit, etc. , even
on a per-capita basis. I think the crime in the New Zealand cities come mostly
from the lower-income, Maori neighborhoods (not taking anything away from
Maoris). But in American cities, the crime is in practically half the area of
the big cities! New York's crime rate is about 10,000 crimes per every 100,000
population. Los Angeles and Detroit are even worse. But I just can't see
Auckland or the other NZ cities entering the picture when it comes to the world
crime cities list.
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz (Red)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Mountain Rock II - Field Report
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:15:39 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
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In article <XXRRXB3w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz>, dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
>meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz (Red) writes:
>
>> Try standing on your head to see the arsehole of the world's perspective
>
>Do you live in Makara? THAT has to be the Arsehole of New Zealand....

Nope Island Bay... I always thought it was Eketuhana, isnt that close to
Palmerston North ;-)


--
Red
From: paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Cant send money into NZ!
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 18:27:13 ECT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Office in Vienna, Austria

paul@ecpdstea.cern.ch (Paul Burkimsher) writes:

> I recently tried to Giro some money to an address in New Zealand (it
> was a magazine subscription actually). To my surprise, the Swiss Post
> Office (PTT) refused the transaction - New Zealand was not on their
> list of "supported" countries. Nor was Australia even, though most of South
> Pacific, South America and even the Falklands were on the list. 

From Austria I use Telegraphic Transfer.  Doesn't cost too much, and it
works.  I've used Giro within Europe, but I don't think NZ participates
-- it prefers SWIFTT, which is an international bank clearing agency.

--
paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Home Office in Vienna, Austria
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Tell me moa!
Date: 29 Jan 93 13:49:13 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <C1KACD.HEA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Woodbury ) writes:
> Surely we can beat the captive mowers, the Moa crossing.
> Has anyone found a moa egg?
> -- 
> Marsha Woodbury   marsha-w@uiuc.edu
> A simile is like a metaphor.
> University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Actually,  quite a few moa eggs have been found over the years,  and I think
there are a few still intact in a few museums (I think the Christchurch museum
has one).  Thought you were being smart weren't you?

Jonathan Dodd,
Hamilton.