HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mvm@caesun6.harris-atd.com (Matt Mahoney)
Subject: Re: need info on depression & lack of outside exercise
Reply-To: mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Organization: CAE Design Center, Harris Corp., Melbourne, Fl.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:02:43 GMT

In article <2605@spool.mu.edu> tomb@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Tom Baas) writes:

>Is there a relationship between depression and the lack of outside exrecise?
>Can anyone tell me if there is a sceintificly proven relationship?
>
>Going even further, how about depression with one who is constantly switching
>between 2nd & 3rd shift work with 1 or 2 days off in between but always
>at different days and times?  Follow that up with a total lack of outside
>exercise.

This could be Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).  There was an article in 
Scientific American a couple of years ago on cyclical depression.

SAD causes depression and is most common in the winter and spring in
northern latitudes.  The treatment is to be exposed to bright lights
for 1/2 to 1 hour every day at the same time.  Room light won't do
it.  You need either sunlight or several thousand watts of indoor light.

--------------------------------        _\/_
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From: gaylec@megatest.UUCP (Gayle Chidester)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Anybody Into Abs? ... ORIGINAL POSTER
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:46:19 GMT
Organization: Megatest Corporation, San Jose, Ca

> 
>     The exercise.  When crunching to reach the leg, squueeeeezzzzeee!
> Now I do 3 sets of crunches, usually (no cheat) 20, 12, 8.  Until
> I get the definition appearing,  I won't work on my obliques yet.
> Will see what happens after 4 months of consistency.  If you have
> any recommendations or suggestions, anything to add or take off,
> I'll be soooo appreciated.  Thanx a million!
> 
>                                                     Beng.

This is what my trainer told me--work lower abs first since they are
harder to isolate. The excersize he has me doing is a scrunch with
knees bent and feet flat on the floor. As you scrunch alternately lift
one foot off the floor about 1 inch. Then, the upper ab workout I do is
with legs extended, knees bent and toes toward nose.

Hope it helps---

	-Gayle

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From: colette@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Colette Marine)
Subject: Re: Carbs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: world,misc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:09:25 GMT

In <1992Apr13.205708.2136@stat.appstate.edu> grs02502@stat.appstate.edu writes:

>1 gram carb=4 calories
>1 gram protein=4 calories
>1 gram fat=9 calories

Just a note here.  The American Dietetic Society has said that recent
studies have upped this number to between 10 and 11 calories, and that
you should probably start counting a gram of fat as 10 calories, not 9.
My source: national network news (can't remember which network) a couple
weeks ago.

>1 gram MCT=8.3 calories

>-Brett

colette
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From: schmidt@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (Eric Schmidt)
Subject: Re: When to resume exercise?
Summary: Deb,   Your best bet is to confer with a physician first.  Then make
	 sure that you don't start out too fast...many people (of all levels)
	 do that & either injure themselves or burn out.  Most reasonable texts
					Eric
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:32:46 GMT
From: GU7@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Calories burned while thinking
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:15:26 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I've read and seen posted here and in other groups information
about the amount of calories burned during various physical
activities.  However, no mention is ever made of the number of
calories burned while thinking.  I'm not talking about sitting
on the couch thinking, I'm talking high-powered,hard-work,geez-my-
head-hurts-when-I'm-done thinking.  I'm finishing a 1.5 year long
research project and writing the final report.  Man, this is tough
work.  Maybe not up there with big time physical workouts, but I'm
tired, hungery and basically spent at the end of a LONG day.
Does anyone know how many calories are spent thinking.  I guess we'll
have to break it down to different types of thinking, like
   -thinking about vacation
   -thinking about working out
   -thinking about finishing a report thats due in 3 days while
    posting ridiculous questions
   -thinking about getting off the couch for more chips and beer.
I would think that calories burned would vary for these types of
thinking.  Anyone have any ideas about the rankings of different
types of thinking vs. calories burned?

Ed Gannon

  Edward J. Gannon (GU7@PSUVM.BITNET)        My two favorite football
  Dept of Civil Engineering                  teams are Penn State and
  The Pennsylvania State University          whoever is playing Pitt.
From: ruby@raid.dell.com (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Metabolism Query
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:39:53 GMT
Reply-To: ruby@raid.UUCP (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff)
Organization: Dell Computer Co

In article <17831@oasys.dt.navy.mil> harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey) writes:
>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to increase your metabolism
>rate.  I jog (30 minutes) or bicycle (1 hour) everyday and in order
>to maintain my weight I have to eat next to nothing.  I know it is
>my metabolism.  The books that I have read say that if you exercise
>regular (which I do daily) that your metabolism will increase.  It
>doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
>
>I don't mind bicycling but sometimes an hour is hard to fit into my
>schedule and the weather isn't always condusive.  I hate jogging but at 
>least I can fit it in and I can jog when the weather is bad or cold.  I 
>would like to be able to do aerobics twice or three times a week and not 
>have to worry about gaining weight. I also feel like you get a better
>workout with aerobics. 

Well, actually, if you eat too little, your metabolism will slow down.
Your body will think you're starving and conserve all the fat it can!
Exercise DOES increase your metabolism, when your body thinks it has 
plenty of fuel to burn.  You should eat high carbohydrate and low fat
foods.  You don't say what your weight and height is, so I don't know
if you should even be worrying about your weight.  By the way, it's the
fat percentage that's really the important factor, anyways.  A muscle
bound person can weigh more than a fat person of the same height and 
definitely be healthier.  If you work out regularly, you should eat
about 1800 to 2000 calories a day for females.  You should eat several
(~5) small meals as opposed to 3 large meals.  Or you can snack in 
between your normal 3 meals on foods like bagels, popcorn (butterless),
fruits, etc.  NEVER skip breakfast or lunch.  You will find that you
have more energy throughout the day and through your exercises.  Oh and
drink lots of water.  I know this all sounds contrary to what you would
think (I was very skeptical at first when the aerobics instructors at 
my gym told me this) but it really works.  
-- 
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From: jayc@hubcap.clemson.edu (Jay Crawford)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Compressed Sciatic Nerve
Keywords: sciatic
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:17:01 GMT
Organization: Clemson University

After increasing my running and aerobics training, I am experiencing a deep painthat starts in my buttocks and radiates down my right thigh into my calf
muscle.  I suspect that my sciatic nerve is getting compressed.   Does anyone
have any suggestions on what I can do to remedy this?  Thanks!
-- 
Jay Crawford          
jayc@hubcap.clemson.edu
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From: robinsmm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ROBINSON MARYBETH)
Subject: Re: Redface Dangerous?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:57:16 GMT

I have ALWAYS had red-faced syndrome when I excercise, but it does
not seem to affect my performance adversely.  

I used to play racquetball often, and competitively.  I turn red, and
sometimes a nice shade of purple, during the first few minutes of 
warm-up.  My opponents naturally believed that they had an easy match
at hand, but that just wasn't so.  Someone told me that the red-face was
just a result of having blood vessels close to the skin.  Any thoughts
on this?

MB



-- 
MaryBeth (MB) Robinson
Department of Chemistry
University of Colorado
From: grs02502@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Metabolism Altering Answer
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:07:27 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University

If you are interested in knowing about how to alter metabolism, leave me some
e-mail.  I have seen quite a bit about people not understanding how diet and
exercise alter metabolism.  I have done some research, and if you guys want to
know what I found out, I'll write something up and post it.
From: IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Back exercises (RE: Back...)
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:59:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92099.125912IA00078
Organization: University of Maine System


Back workouts will vary as each of us will get better results from different
exercises. However, here are a few that should produce the results that
everyone is looking for.

   1.  Pull downs (in front): Use a weight that can be done without a
       jerking motion for 8 - 12 reps.  This can work the upper back if
       you are performing the exercise in a slow, deliberate manner and
       concentrating on the back.

   2.  1 hand bent over rows w/ dumbells:  Use a free standing flat bench
       placing your right knee and hand on the bench.  Pull the dumbell up
       toward your chest.  Controll the motion on the way up and down.
       Switch sides and repeat for 8 - 12 reps.

   3.  2 handed dumbell rows: lying on a bench you pull the dumbell toward
       your chest.


>> In May's issue of Muscle & Fitness Rich Gaspari has a back
routine that is quite extensive.  All three of the above exercises
are demonstated as well as a few others.

I do 1 and 2 and I will try 3 when I find a bench that can accomidate.
These two combined with others gives me a great back workout.

______

Rob
From: jdriver@netlink.cts.com (John Driver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: re: Swimming and Suits
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:59:23 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA


Actually, let me correct my previous post.  both Speedos and 
boxers have about the same level of comfort while swimming.  
Any differences in comfort are mostly in the mind, like how you 
feel about being in a speedo (ie if you have never been in one 
before in your life, you are going to feel a bit self-concious). 

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From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Calves (was Re: Lat pulldowns (was Re: Average Lifting Ability ))
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:35:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr6.235604.9901@nic.umass.edu>, Richard Muller writes:

> My calves measure about 15" ( a little more right now, but it's only
> an hour after a hard leg workout) which isn't particularly massive,
> even on my 5'10" 165# frame.

Well, my calves are 18", which is about right since I'm 5'10" 240#
(15*sqrt(240/165) ~ 18).  Considering that I haven't worked them
properly in quite a long time (I suffered an ankle injury last summer),
I should be able to build them to be over 20".

-Chris
From: ICKMC@ASUACAD.BITNET (Keith M. Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Bodybuilding Trainer
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:47:34 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

Does anyone have any tips on getting started into bodybuilding? I have checked
out several gyms and it seems everyone of them has a program that seems to
contradict the other (and they seem mostly concerned with getting me to sign
large, several year long contracts). I have considered checking out a private
trainer in the Phoenix, AZ area but am concerned about the cost. There are
an endless supply of products to consider as well (Joe Weider's stuff, etc.).

Any suggestions would be appreciated. You may email me at ICKMC@ASUACAD.

Thanks.
From: spock@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Steve Horvath)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Soloflex vs. NordicGold - which is better?
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:53:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ


I've been thinking about the same thing.....should I buy a used Soloflex
for $500 (they're a dime/doz around here) or a new NordicFlex for $1000.

Has anyone tried both?   The Nordic Flex concept looks better on TV,
but is it worth the xtra money?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!


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From: chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Soy Milk & Veggi Protein
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:00:02 GMT

In article <14313@pitt.UUCP>, jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen) writes:

> Veggi protein doesn't contain all the essential amino acids, so it`s not
> as good as protein from animal sources.

Define the term 'veggi'. A mix of your standard garden vegetables, legumes
and beans can provide all the essential amino acids. 

If this wasn't the case, there would be many dead vegetarians in places like
India and China!

I'm sure the folks on rec.food.veg could provide authoritative sources.

Todd
From: butteris@dingus.ssc.gov (Jamey Butteris)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Metabolism Altering Answer
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:12:35 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory

In article <1992Apr15.170727.2160@stat.appstate.edu>  
grs02502@stat.appstate.edu writes:
> If you are interested in knowing about how to alter metabolism, leave me  
some
> e-mail.  I have seen quite a bit about people not understanding how diet  
and
> exercise alter metabolism.  I have done some research, and if you guys  
want to
> know what I found out, I'll write something up and post it.

Always willing to learn more! <grin>

l8r'

Jamey B @ SSC
From: kseethar@cs.ulowell.edu (Krishnan Seetharaman)
Subject: Re: Back exercises???
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:18:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.225853.1438@walter.bellcore.com> dsm@ctt.bellcore.com (David Miller) writes:
>
>>I have occasionally had problems with my upper back - most
>>probably a muscle sprain or something.  It has always happened
>>when I wake up in the morning
>
>I was just about to post on this topic when I saw your message.
>My question is also about exercises to strengthen back muscles, but I
>may have some advice for you...
>

I also have similar problems. I get a stif neck and I get a pain in the 
back of my neck. I used to get it once a year, now it seems more frequent,
like once a month and lasts a few days. 

I work out 3-4 times a week, about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 hours each time. Half
the time I spend on the rowing, and stairmaster machines. And the other half
on Universal machines.

Are there any specific exercises that I can do to prevent this. Any pointers
would be grately appreciated ...

Thanks
-ks


-- 
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E-mail     : kseethar@cs.ulowell.edu		       Phone : 508-934-3834
Snail-mail : Department of Computer Science, UMass/Lowell, Lowell, MA 01854.
"I xeroxed my watch.  Now I have time to spare." - Steven Wright
From: roberts@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Proofing (PLEASE)
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:01:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

[There were problems with the first submission of this article,
so it was cancelled. If this is the second copy you've seen,
my apologies. -- DWR]

I realize this may get me flamed mercilessly, but so be it. My
complaint isn't specifically fitness-related, but of the two or
three newsgroups that I read regularly, misc.fitness seems most
in need of a gentle reminder:

Proofread your posts!! Please.

I'm deliberatly not singling out any particular offender, but
each week there are many (myself included). Here are some specific
suggestions:

1) Don't use the convention "(sp?)" if you don't know how to spell
   something. Look it up. Unless it's a proper name, it's probably
   in the dictionary. I admit that this may not be the case for some
   scientific or technical terms, but try to at least make a good
   faith effort.

2) Pay some attention to grammar. I've seen flame wars start because
   someone simply failed to express something clearly. Aside from
   this point, incorrect constructions are distracting and weaken
   your argument. Common mistakes: "it's" vs. "its", "there" vs.
   "their", "you're" vs. "your", and others too numerous to mention.

3) If you're going to make a couple of points or if your argument is
   complicated enough to require more than a few sentences, break it
   up into paragraphs. One long, run-on paragraph is extremely difficult
   to read. Also, I'm told that an empty line takes up no more bandwidth
   than a period ("."), so it's not like you're saving anyone any money.

OK, so you're asking, "who is he to tell us how to write?" Well, nobody
actually. Except someone who has taken the time to try to understand
what you have to say. As a writer (and that's what you are, after all),
you owe it to your audience to make your case as best you can. I realize
you aren't doing this for a living and that you're a busy person. So am
I. My point is that you've taken the time to share your views with the
rest of us, and we've taken the time to read them. I think that entails
a certain obligation to express these ideas as clearly as one's able.

By the way, I guess I should point out that I'm a physicist, not a
literature major or anything of the kind (perhaps it shows). Anyway,
writing well isn't something that comes easily to me, either. I'm not
making these criticisms lightly.

-- Don Roberts
   dwr@llnl.gov

P.S. To the first person to find five or more errors in this post (I'm
     sure I missed a few), thanks. I appreciate your attention.
From: lkoh@elman.austin.ibm.com (Lisa Koh)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: My aerobics teacher can't follow the music
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:30:39 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


   BTW, this is more of a reply to Jeff, but I only have a post option...
   Sorry, everybody!

> (J. Jeff Mahoney) writes:
 
> A couple of issues here...........first the fact that your instructor
> can't follow the beat.  To me this is a definite sign that she is not
> so "great and all that."  I've been doing aerobics for nearly a
> decade (teaching for five), and I often run into instructors that
> can't follow the beat.  I rarely do their class twice.  Hearing the
> beat is the first thing a new instructor is taught to do (remember this
> IS a dance as well as exercise class), and if they can't do this, I
> have little faith in their competence.  I'm not saying that you can't
> get a good workout nonetheless, but I personally can not enjoy such
> a class (bad dancing is not my idea of fun).   .............
>  I would suggest that you complain (politely) to
> the person in charge of aerobics at your club.  This instructor needs
> to be aware of this weakness in her abilities.
> 
> If you really want to do your own routine, I prefer you to stand
> near the back of the class, so you won't confuse the neophytes who
> are deperately trying to match my footwork.
> 
> (Lisa...let me know where you are working out.  I invite you to come
> to my class if you so desire---ALWAYS on the beat.)
> -- 

Jeff,

Thanks for all your advice, and I must say I agree...
I've been dancing  & doing aerobic activity for many 
years (7?, and I'm 20), and I think this woman is maybe 
among the poorest instructors I've had.

But as i certainly am not a licensed aerobics teacher
(although i may pursue that one day!) and i'm just not
your basic assertive person.  

When i'm in the back of the
room, i usually feel less pressure to adhere to her routine
(which, BTW has been virtually unchanged since i started 
her class in early february) and i do my own thing; likewise,
i feel compelled to follow her like the mindless herd of sheep 
that is the rest of the class, when i'm in the front.

But when i'm in the front, i push myself *much* harder than
when i'm in the back, for obvious psychological reasons, and
i don't think it's fair that i have to scurry to the back just
b/c she sucks (just kidding, i'm exaggerating there)...do you
know what i mean?

But i put up with it b/c it's free & offered at my apartment
complex, and like you sort of said, i still get a *decent*
workout (which i really can't get exercising alone) which
is better than nothing. (sigh)

(Sorry this was so long!!!)

Thanks again,
Lisa
Hook 'em Horns!!
~\/~

p.s.  where do *you* teach?
From: grs02502@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Protein
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:07:01 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University

In article <92096.162049IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Cryan Jr.) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Apr3.165228.12825@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, nelson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
> (Charles Nelson) says:
>>
>>The May issue of _Running Times_ has an article about the
>>protein needs of runners (endurance athletes). I forget the
>>details but I remember the author saying that runners
>>need more protein than weightlifters. If I remember correctly
>>weightlifters were said to need 1.75 ounces of protein per
>>100 lbs. of bodyweight. And runners were said to need 2.5
>>ounces of protein per 100 lbs. of bodyweight.
> 
> 
> What is meant by 1.75/2.5 ounces of protein?  How does that translate
> to grams?
> 
> Or am I just way out in left field.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Rob


1 ounce = 28.35 grams

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From: tino@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (allen.j.tino)
Subject: Re: slim shake, NOT! (calorie bloopers)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:32:34 GMT

From article <1992Apr10.112313.14590@urbana.mcd.mot.com>, by nbernste@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Norman Bernstein):
> SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green) writes:
> 
>>seen in World Gym (Seekonk) on a bottle of "slim shake" (same type of
>>single serve bottle as Muscle Mass, only it's an add milk/water powder):
> 
>>   calories 197
>>   fat       1g
>>   protein  26g
>>   carbs    45g
> 
>>NOT!
> 
>>   from my calculations:
>>   1 * 8 =    8 calories from fat
>>   26 * 4 =  104 calories from protein
>>   45 * 4 =  180 calories from carbs
>>   -----------------------------------
>>             292 total calories
> 
>>Janice"read the label carefully"G
> 
> When a product label indicates the number of calories, they are
> referring to the total carolies in a single serving.  By adding in fat,
> protein and carbs again you are calculating a non-sense number.
> 
> The actual calories per serving in a bottle of "slim shake" is as
> indicated on the product packaging.
> 
> Norm "know how to read the label first"

I don't understand your point.
What's wrong with Janice's calculation?
I have no idea what's on the "slim shake" label, but most labels
give calories and fat/protein/carb grams.  They'd better match.

Al "I can read too" ...
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