HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Rob.Levin@f217.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux on 386SL Under Hibernation?
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 07:55:10 -0800

Anthony,

 AY> Linux'rs:

 AY> Please forgive me if this is a FAQ (it's rolled off our system
here
 AY> already, and my gopher search of news.answers didn't turn up
 AY> anything), and point me to the information if it's been asked
before.

 AY> Does anyone know offhand if Linux can survive the hibernation mode
 AY> that many 386SL notebooks offer?

Not at present.  If you have a 386SL system, you may want to consider
programming that yourself!  It may be a bit difficult, as I understand
that a whole new processor mode has been created to provide this
functionality.  Some sort of meta-protected-mode.  

The code you write will need to be compatible with the way things are
done in the rest of the kernel, as much as possible; you might check
with Linus after researching the matter.  Also, bear in mind that other
functionality is eventually supposed to be implemented in this
meta-mode, and it may be stuff Linux will need.

Sorry about the vagueness, but the closest I've gotten to any kind of
functional description of this stuff is one-liners in PC WEEK.... 
[grin]

You will need to get the programming guide for the processor from the
vendor.  I hope you pursue this, because otherwise I'll probably have to
when I get a notebook.  [grin]  

Rob L.


 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, TX (1:3802/217)
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux support for (PC) notebooks
Keywords: linux notebooks support
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:29:29 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Jul29.134103.21828@muppet.bt.co.uk>, davidh@muppet.bt.co.uk (David Hobley) writes:
| From reading c.o.l for a while, linux seems pretty damn good.
| I was thinking of buying a 3/486 notebook. Does anyone have any
| experience in using linux with something like this? I have not
| had much experience with PC's so far, but this seems like an excellent
| opportunity to start.

  I tried it with a Bitwise 386-33DLC(?) anyway, low power real DX, and
it worked just fine, thank you. Don't think I'll try X on the LCD
screen, though, although it might work.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
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From: butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler)
Subject: Everex VGA
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:13:06 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-11076]: rex

Opps.
What I was trying to say is does anyone have a working Xconfig for
an Everex Veiwpoint Premium?

Larry
From: edmonds@cs.ubc.ca (Brian Edmonds)
Subject: Backspace key (was: Good comm program?)
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:33:47 GMT

Thomas.Mcwilliams@f42.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Thomas Mcwilliams) wrote:
>However, all that doesn't change the reality of what we have now.
>What I propose to do is add the code to allow the interpretation of
>the <Delete> character be settable at the command line or from
>the init file like the other options. Does this sound ok to you?
Some way of selecting would be nice.  As it currently stands, each
time I upgrade to a new kernel version, I hack the keyboard driver so
that the backspace key actually means backspace, as every machine with
which I regularly communicate (no vaxen) uses backspace as its
standard, although Suns are arguably schizophrenic about this.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Edmonds (MSc CompSci)                          edmonds@cs.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bir7@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ross Biro)
Subject: Re: sigblock, sigpause...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:51:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.210933.29135@htsa.aha.nl> miquels@htsa.aha.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes:
>#define sigblock(what) sigsetmask(siggetmask()|(what))
>#define sigpause(what) sigsuspend(&what)
>
	I did this to help port BIND code, not perfect but useable.

Ross Biro bir7@leland.stanford.edu 
Member League for Programming Freedom (LPF)
mail league@prep.ai.mit.edu for information

----- cut here -----
/* sigvec.h */
#ifndef _SIGVEC_H
#define _SIGVEC_H

struct sigvec
{
    struct sigaction sa;
};

#define sv_mask sa.sa_mask
#define sv_handler sa.sa_handler

static inline int
sigmask (int sig)
{
    return (1 << (sig-1));
}

static inline int
sigvec (int sig, struct sigvec *sv, struct sigvec *oldvec)
{
    return (sigaction (sig, &(sv->sa), &(oldvec->sa)));
}

static inline int
sigblock (int mask)
{
    int err;
    int omask;
    err = sigprocmask (SIG_BLOCK, &mask, &omask);
    if (err < 0) return (err);
    return (omask);
}

static inline int
sigsetmask (int mask)
{
    int err;
    int omask;
    err = sigprocmask (SIG_SETMASK, &mask, &omask);
    if (err < 0) return (err);
    return (omask);
}

static inline int
sigpause (int mask)
{
    return (sigsuspend (&mask));
}

#define vfork fork

#endif
-- 
Ross Biro bir7@leland.stanford.edu 
Member League for Programming Freedom (LPF)
mail league@prep.ai.mit.edu for information
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From: mnrausch@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Martin Rausche)
Subject: XV and Linux Question
Summary: Why do I get a floting point exception?
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:48:34 GMT
Keywords: xv

Hi!

I've got a little problem with xv under Linux. When I click the NORM button
in the ColEdit window I always get "floating point exception (core dumped)".
I'm running Linux 0.96cpl2 on my 486/33 without math emulation code. I've
got xv from banjo.concert.net:/pub/Linux/X11/Incoming. Is this a bug in xv?

Thanks in advance. Martin.
---
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"Wir hippen und wir hoppen, wir rappen wie die Deppen" -- Das kleine Arschloch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hutchinson@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Subject: Re: Is the Trident VGA card supported by Linux
Reply-To: hutchinson@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:44:28 GMT


|         I read the FAQ and (as usual) I could not figure out whether my
|         VGA card (a Trident "TVGA" ??) is currently supported by Linux 
|         in running X. I heard that it was not supported and wanted to check 
|         this out. If not, would someone point out which (inexpensive/affordable)
|         cards are supported! Thanks a heap,

Mayhaps you have an old copy of the FAQ?  This is directly out of my copy:

QUESTION: What VGA boards are supported?

ANSWER: ET3000                  (for ex. GENOA 5300/5400)
        ET4000                  (Tricom, STB PWR Graph, Sigma Legend, etc.)
        GVGA                    (Genoa 6400)
        PVGA1A                  (Paradise VGA Professional)
        WD90C00                 (Paradise VGA 1024)

--------------------------------------
Bob Hutchinson                            
Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
(hutchinson@wrair-emh1.army.mil)
From: tj2n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tao Jiang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: XDM
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:50:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ceQUI2e00WB8B3I1dH
Organization: Doctoral student, Statistics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Hi,

Has anyone compiled xdm? Any suggestions?

Thans in advance!
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From: wilder@socrates.umd.edu (Claude H. Wilder)
Subject: Re: dc area linux bbs's?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:54:10 GMT

I'm not sure of the name of the board but, 202-686-9086 is a free bbs which
pretty much has only Linux files on it.

                                              Claude (wilder@socrates)

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                                |      |        Don't have
Claude Wilder                   |      |        a cow, Man!
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From: hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft)
Subject: Re: /lib/libc2.2.2
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht,  The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:40:15 GMT

>> > This is an additional post To the one relating to xv.
>> > I've been trying to compile some X apps, the last couple of days.(oneko as
>> > an example)  The compile goes fine, but when run, it prints 
>> > 	/lib/libc2.2.2
>> > 	/lib/libm2.2.2
>> > 
>> > ... Any ideas, anyone?

This is the result of using X libraries which were compiled before
gcc2.2.2 for linux was out. These libraries are incompatible with any
new compiled code.

This problem will be solved if you do not only x11 v1.1 for linux, but
also the programmers package xprog1.1.

Good luck,
-- 
Rob Hooft, Bijvoet Center for Biomolecular Research, 
Chemistry department University of Utrecht, the Netherlands
hooft@hutruu54.bitnet hooft@chem.ruu.nl hooft@fys.ruu.nl hooft@cc.ruu.nl
From: sharman@Software.Mitel.COM (Richard Sharman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: I can't get mmap to work
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:28:59 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

I was trying to use "mmap", and am having problems.

I have a simple example, below, which attempts to use mmap on a file,
and simply prints the value returned.  I looked in the source
(linux/mm/mmap.c) and it seemed that the address has to be a valid
address in the data space, at a multiple of 0x1000, and the length
also has to be a multiple of that.

The demo program fails on mmap, with errno=1 (EPERM).  This I don't
understand, since I couldn't see any failures of the kind
return(-EPERM).   I tried it on the SUN under gdb, and the mmap
succeeded and buff1 looked ok.  (It bombed on the printf though!)

System: 0.96c-pl2   (and GCC 2.2.2 of course!)

Here is the code:
---------------------
/* attempt to use mmap */

#include <sys/types.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/mman.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <errno.h>

main(int argc, char **argv)
{

  caddr_t file1, file2 ;
  int	  fd1, fd2 ;
  int	  save_errno ;
  
#define LEN1 2048
  caddr_t buff1 ;

  buff1 = (caddr_t) memalign(0x1000, LEN1) ;
  if ( buff1 == NULL ) {
    perror("malloc failed") ;
    exit(2) ;
  }


  if ( argc !=2 ) {
    fprintf(stderr, "no file specified\n") ;
    exit(2) ;
  }

  fd1 = open(argv[1], O_RDONLY) ;
  if ( fd1 < 0 ) {
    perror("open failed") ;
    exit(2) ;
  }
  file1 = mmap(buff1, LEN1, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED|MAP_FIXED, fd1, 0) ;
  save_errno = errno ;
  perror("") ;
  printf("mmap returned %x  errno was %d\n", file1, save_errno) ;

  exit(0) ;
}
  
----------------------
and this is the output:
----------------------
~/test% demo1 demo1.c
Operation not permitted
mmap returned ffffffff  errno was 1
~/test%


Any help appreciated,
Richard
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: monkey@engin.umich.edu (Monkey King)
Subject: Help a linux newcomer, please
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:01:51 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Three days ago I heard of linux, and this is what I've done so far:

I have a Gateway 486/25 MHz, with 200 MB IDE disk in the lab.  It has an
ethernet card connected to the university's network.  I have the NCSA telnet
program on the PC so I can telnet and ftp to the network from it.  So I
telnet'ed to tsx-11.mit.edu and got the boot and root images, rawrite.exe and
some documentation, FAQ, etc.  I've managed to get a 50 MB partition for
linux.  Rawrited images to floppies.  Booted from floppies.  Installed linux
on the harddrive.  Changed the bootimage's 508th byte.  Made harddrive as the
root.

Now problems and questions:
1. I understand that I can get more binaries (e.g., 'du') from the same
tsx-11.mit.edu, but how am I supposed to get them on my PC's linux partition.
I tried the this: login to my unix account (where I'm sending this msg), ftp
to tsx-11, get a binary---I went for the emacs-18.58, to be specific, 'cause
I need an editor first, uncompress and untar it, ftp it to my PC.  Now what?
The binary (emacs) is a dos file, how can I get it over to the linux partition?
Am I doing the right thing?

2. When I boot the computer up in linux with the harddrive as root, how can I
get my login ID and password?  Now I can only login as root, and linux asks
for no password.

3. Can I boot linux from the harddrive?

-- 
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monkey@engin.umich.edu      | recycled material.
From: rohrer@fncrd6.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: X weirdness.
Summary: silly VGA oscillators
Keywords: Confusion.
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:09:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Fermilab

In article <ins295b.712319744@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au> ins295b@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Humphrey) writes:
>Hi,
>#include "pat.on.back.for.linus"
>	I've been tinkering with getting X11 to work with my setup
> (50 MHz 486 with an Tseng Labs ET4000 card and a tatung multi scanning
>monitor) and for ages was unable to get a stable picture in any of the
>modes that the various resources had told me should work. Then
>completely by accident I tried to start X11 after I had selected one of
>the SVGA text modes at boot time (100x40) and It worked perfectly.  Can
>anyone out there give me a vague idea of why this is so.  If more
>details are required mail me and I'll supply what's needed.

I have a similar sort of thing going on with my Swan Palette Plus
(ET4000/HiColor) board.  If you use the trick about commenting out
all "clocks" lines in your Xconfig and then startx'ing with stderr
redirected to a file, then sync and reboot and read the file to see
what your clocks are, you not only (1) get different frequencies on
my machine depending on what svga text mode you are/aren't in, you (2)
get different frequencies depending on whether you've already run X
(at least like that) or not!!  What's worse is, X asks for an oscillator
speed by number, not by speed, so if your clocks line has 25 in the first
spot, and the real speed is 30 MHz, it will send a signal pattern calibrated
for a 25 MHz clock using the 30 MHz oscillator.  THIS IS DRIVING ME
UP A WALL. 

I have a feeling that, since I've got a variable oscillator (VCO?) on my
card, I'm in the same boat as the people with the new Speedstar 24s...
any progress on that situation yet?

C'MON PEOPLE, I CAN DO 1024x768 NO PROBLEM IN DOS MODE!!!
(that oughta get 'em...)

>Andrew Humphrey
>ins295b@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
>ins295b@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
>humpy@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
>
>"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean the whole world isn't out to
>get me".

	Keith
(rohrer@fncrd0.fnal.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@hamlet.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: only 4 pty's
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.042326.22392@cs.tulane.edu> butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler) writes:
>When linux boots up it says 4 pty's. How  do I get more than 4 pty's?
>

Change NR_PTYS in include/linux/tty.h to something more reasonable.
From: shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNU Hurd (was Re: BSD Unix)
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:45:30 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

In article <1992Jul21.131526.8920@ncsu.edu> jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul21.112705.6276@cs.cornell.edu>, murthy@cs.cornell.edu (Chet Murthy) writes:
>|> free unix is perhaps 2 years away - in 2 years, linux will be stable.
>|> In two years, the GNU Hurd will be stable.  And AT&T can 
>
>I have been wondering this for some time but have refrained from asking it
>because it sounds like a flame, but it is not.
>
>GNU has been working on Hurd for as long as I have know about them.  This has
>been at least 3 years, and I have seen nothing from them.  Linus has been
>working on linux for about a year and a half, and has produced a very good
>operating system.  Does anyone know what is taking GNU so long?  Prehaps they
>have released beta versions that I am unaware of, or prehaps they do not 
>want to release anything before they get it finished?  Anyone know?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Nance

  I've been following the Hurd saga for about 4 years.  Stallman kept
saying something to the effect of "we're going to start work on
the GNU OS (before the name Hurd was used) as soon as the Mach code gets 
freed up."  So, really, for much of the time they've been doing more
talking than coding.  The date the Mach code became free of AT&T source
has been more like a year or year and a half ago.  It probably took awhile
for them to get their tools ported, including a stable version of
the GNU C library.  I think they're at the point where Linux was
in October-December '91 timeframe but on a much larger scale.

  A tremendous amount of time has been put into the Hurd's filesystem.
However, they're lagging in the BSD shell area because there's a guy
at Carnegie Mellon that's produced a fairly stable one now and I'll
bet he started after the M. Bushnell got cranking on his version.
Read the June GNU newsletter.  It just got posted to gnu.announce last
week and mentions the CMU BSD shell.  In brief, what GNU might do is
use the CMU shell in the interim and replace it later with their own.

  I'm surprised Jim you didn't mention how many years Emacs 19 has been
in the works. ;-)  Now *that* has been over two years in the making!

Steve Hite
shite@sinkhole.unf.edu
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: "Automagic" shoelace
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:21:07 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <C-AMB.92Jul20115836@solitude.math.utah.edu>, c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston) writes:

|>    Or you could try RTFM and note that when you laceup /dev/hda that you
|>    should do it as such: laceup -w 2 /dev/hda where -w 2 means, set my
|>    default boot partition to /dev/hda2.  Of course this is done after
|>    issuing laceup /dev/hda2 wini

  You obviously have a different version of laceup than he does (or I
do). Having done just exactly what you suggest so bluntly, on boot the
system shows a map of partitions with 2 highlighted by an asterisk, and
waits for a partition number to be entered.

  When you tell someone to RTFM it's wise to be sure that what the FM
says is correct. In this case, at least for some versions of laceup (or
some machines), this isn't the case.

  I also noted that evil things happened when I just hit ENTER to take
the default. It didn't. I'm perfectly willing to believe that this is a
BIOS anomaly, but no amount of following the directions will help.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Performance of Linux 0.96cp2
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:36:29 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Has something gone wrong somewhere along the road from (I think) pre-0.96
and 0.96.  My machine is not the best for what I want to do, 25MHz 386,
2 Megs RAM, 8 Meg swap partition, but in the past it was perfectly usable.

Re-compiling the kernel took about 3/4 hr, X was usable, just.
Now, recompiling - 2 1/4 hrs
X is a pig.  Running xlock (for kicks), the swarm of bees (or whatever)
look like they are flying through pea soup!! - they didn't used to.

Is this some unique problem, or have others noticed it.

Cheers,

Scott.
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BSD Unix aka Freedom is a myth....
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:59:06 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1992Jul21.112705.6276@cs.cornell.edu> murthy@cs.cornell.edu (Chet Murthy) writes:
>Y'know, Doug Comer's XINU, Linus Torvalds' Linux, Tanenbaum's Minix,
>and I'm sure there are others, all stand as good arguments that the technology
>if UNIX isn't just an AT&T invention anymore - the V sytem, Mach,
>ad a zillin other ways of implementing the core of UNIX exist.
>
>I think that even if BSDI fails, even if 386BSD fails, and even
>if the entire Berkeley net2 distrib gets nuked,
>free unix is perhaps 2 years away - in 2 years, linux will be stable.
>In two years, the GNU Hurd will be stable.  And AT&T can 
>do almost nothing abot that, eh?

I'm somewhat concerned about the possibility that some Linux developers
might be familiar with AT&T code. For legal reasons it might be best
to make sure that all Linux kernel code is developed by people with
no prior experience with AT&T code.

>But you're right - I'm pissed, too.  From what I heard of the history,
>BSD started with V6 unix, a developed a _whole_ _lot_
>of what currently constitutes UNIX.  To claim that AT&T did ti all is
>goinga bit far.

The unfortunite thing is that money makes right in court. Atleast Linux
is an international effort and may be harder for AT&T to stop.

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