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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: The 49ers deserved to win: A Vikings fan calmed down
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 03:55:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.004307.12513@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

>OK, you're correct, it was a pretty bad call, but now that you have 
>(hopefully) calmed down and are (hopefully) thinking rationally once again,

Yes, I have calmed down... my finals have taken my mind off of the game. :-)


>do you *really* believe the zebras made that call just because it was
>the 49ers who were playing? Come on, what do the refs care who wins the
>game? Also, I notice that the Vikings did not complain too much about
>the call, so the ref must have seen something. True, it was probably
>something petty, something that happens on every play and doesn't get
>called, but it's ludicrous to claim that the refs give favoritism
>to the the 49ers, or any other team. Why would they do that? What's
>in it for them? Unless they are being paid off, which is even more
>ludicrous.

And I'm sure the refs weren't specifically out to help the 9ers win...
it just seemed that way in the heat of the game.


>OK, you have a right to be pissed about those calls, but no way did the
>Vikings deserve to win that game. What did they do that was impressive?
>OK, they had seven sacks against a very good (but short-handed) 49ers' OL.
>And the defense made two big plays to account for 14 points. Other than that,
>a very poorly played game by the Vikes. Only ten first downs and only 185
>yards in offense. And even though they sacked Young seven times, Young
>still completed 20 of 26. Face it, the better team won this game, 
>deservedly so.

The Vikings definitely didn't deserve to win the game, and I never felt
that they did.  I was impressed (as usual) with their defense though.  The
problem with this team is obvious to everyone... they desperately need a
QB who can *throw* the ball, not just run with it.  I think another poster
mentioned a third string QB named Brad Johnson.  I wasn't even aware of him.
Is he any good?  Can anyone give us any information about him?  


Jim
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:50:17 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:20:06 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Warren Moon
Date: 15 Dec 1992 05:28:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


AS far as I have heard, Warren is GONE for the season, may come back
late in the playoffs if they get that far.  Actually, they seem to be
doing better without him - he gave Cleveland enough reason to win
the last time they played, I wish that he was there to do it again.
I don't know which AFC Central team played worst this week - I just
hope we don't get to see in a head to head matchup next week.
Go BROWNS!!!
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: BIlls are READY
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:49:19 GMT

In article <1ggvs5INNmeh@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes:
>In article <Bz86nE.2xy@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin  
>Barnes) writes:
>> 
>> After this weekend I think that the BILLS are ready to take the SB, In  
>previous
>> years they played their best ball in weeks 12 ->14 but this year they are  
>just 
>> now PEAKING. Iwatched them do whatever was necessary to beat Denver (a very 
>> good team).  they won they DOMINATED, if not for a fluke on-sides kick the  
>game
>> would have been a total blow out!!.
>
>2 questions:
>
>	How is it that a team which wins one game over a scummy team can be  
>considered "peaked" and "ready to take the SB"?
>
>	Denver is a good team?  Mwahahahahahahahahahaha, and I am a Denver fan.
>
>Face it, the Bills aren't even close to ready to take the SB.  Mabye if they  
>win their next 2, I might believe you.
>
What do you expect from the crying Jills? They have no
idea what it is like to win a SB. They are in a fantasy
trip, must be the those mushrooms. I kind of hope they
do make it to the SB. The result would be a NFC
blowout! Whether it be the Niners, Saints or Cowboys,
the stinking Jills would be humilated on national
T.V., in front of MILLIONS of views world-wide.
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 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
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From: wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp)
Subject: Re: Leroy Butler v. Rod Woodson (was Re: Leroy Butler)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:44:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.181320.9479@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:

[lots of stuff about Butler's hit...]

>I don't mean to imply that the hit *shouldn't* have been noticed.  I'm
>not disputing Butler's suspension.  My point is that the suspension
>resulted from Butler throwing himself through the air at Ware, not
>from the hit being late or particularly severe.
>
>This is important because it supports my belief that Butler was not
>trying to hurt Ware and that the act was not permeditated.  I think
>Butler got carried away and did something that he regretted even
>before the suspension.
>
>JGH

Oh come on! Are you seriously trying to say that Butler went leaping
through the air, aiming a forearm smash at the side of Ware's head without any
intention of hurting him? Give me a break!

Maybe he regretted it as soon as he'd done it. Maybe it wasn't premeditated
(probably, in fact, IMHO). That doesn't alter the fact that it was a very
stupid and *dangerous* thing to do, and it was very lucky that Ware didn't get
hurt. Of course he should have been suspended.

The Wisp. [now, if Wiber Marshall had done it...]
From: princemr@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Pack is Getting Closer!
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:40:35 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <1992Dec15.045337.2829@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, jefforca@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> I know that a lot of you people think I am some new asshole who is posting just
> because the packers have one 5 games in a row.  Well, this is untrue.  I only
> posted because I can actually feel the desperation in the postings of Vikings
> fans and think it is truly funny.  I figured I would rip on their team and
> hopefully get a few MUDDUCKS pissed at me.  I don't care.  I live only 75 miles
> away from Minnesota (Land of 10000 puddles) and have had to listen to all the
> MUDDUCKS tell me how great the Vikings were after the overtime 23-20 victory in
> week one.  Well now we're possibly looking at a much bigger game in week 17. 
> Look out MUDDUCKS, we're gonna get ya!!!
> 
> HERE'S TO THE 11 TIME WORLD CHAMPION GREEN BAY PACKERS.
> 
> p.s. All you MUDDUCKS who say it was a long time since the Pack won one of
> those world championships, I have but one thing to say:
> 0-4 in the Super Bowl...Nuff Said

I hope all you out there in net land don't believe all of us Pack fans are like
this??? I love to rib the Vike fans as much as the next guy up here in NW
Wisconsin, but this is a bit too much.
 
(Although I would like to see the Packers kick some Minnesota butt big 
time if the last game is for the division :)

			Mike.
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:00:17 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Why do the 49ers get to play by different rules???!!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:25:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Dec13.201510.26638@serval.net.wsu.edu> jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>Next, late in the quarter Terry Allen is stopped just short of a first down
>near his own 30 with a little less than 2 minutes left.  Some big a**hole
>49er defensive player first holds Allens legs up in the air for several 
>seconds not allowing him to get up, then after he does, he shouts in Allen's
>face for several more seconds taunting him.  Allen NEVER DOES ANYTHING... he
>says like 2 words to the guy, NEVER MOVES TOWARD HIM, NEVER TOUCHES HIM, 
>NOTHING!  What happens?  The zebras, realizing that the 49ers will get great
>field position if they back up the Vikes, FLAG *ALLEN* for a 15-yd personal
>foul!!!  What the *HELL* was that???!!!  


I hate the Niners as much as the next guy, but this was a good call. I am
not sure why CBS was so puzzled, you could see it if you looked close on 
the replays, and it was shown on last nights news to. What happened was as
the Niner player was holding Allens legs(way longer than necessary), Allen
kicked him in the stomach with his right leg in an attempt to get the guy
to let go. Yes he was retaliating, but the rule is that its a dead ball
personal foul and the ref was looking right at it.




Russ Smith
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:00:11 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:40:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: The Dynasty Continues..........
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 15 DEC 92 11:35:03    

In article <13937@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN) writes...

>In <mbb2001-041292212351@m248-102.bgsu.edu> mbb2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Mark B. Benintendi) writes:
> 
>>experience to us.  Their is no better team than the 49ers.  The Niners lose
>>the best QB of all time, lose the best FS of all time, lose one of the best
>>RB of all time, two great MLB, three great SS, our best pass rusher, and
>>they still reign as the greatest super power in the NFL. 
> 
>  This is highly subjective, Rice,Montana,Lott best of all time,
>probably, Craig ? Good, a fine pass catcher, not quite in the
>Payton/Brown/Juice catogary.
> 
>>Those are just
>>the players lost in the last three years.  We would not want to rub it in
>>any more by mentioning all the great players lost in the last decade when
>>the Dynasty began by forming the greatest secondary of all time.  if
>>anybody would like to challenge our thoughts on the best team of all time,
>   
>  I agree with you here, the 1980's 9ers were probably the best team of
>all time, about the 90's 9ers - the jury is still out (for another
>8 years) 

ALRIGHT, NOW YOU'VE DONE IT!

You people are nothing but a bunch of little tiny weenies.  I'm sick 
of this "best of all time" crap.  IF YOU THINK THE 49ERS OF THE 80S 
WERE A BETTER TEAM THAN THE 60S PACKERS YOUR BRAIN IS DEFECTIVE.

I could put up with the "best QB of all time" and "best safety of all 
time" crap but this "best team of all time" has shoved me over the 
edge.  I'll bet none of you even remember the 60s Packers.

I'm not going to say that the 60s Packers were better than the 80s 
49ers.  I don't want to insult you.  But you better freakin knock it 
off 'CUS YOU'RE REALLY PISSIN ME OFF!!!!!

JGH

PS: Perhaps you'd like to explain on what basis you've declaired that 
Lott is better than HoF safety Willie Wood.
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chargers and Sea-Hawks ... future AFC power houses.
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:04:10 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Watched both these teams today and was throughly impressed.
The Chargers are the only AFC team which play the NFC power
houses brand of football. I would also like to include
Seattle in this minus their lame duck offence.

Anyway a great defence is a solid foundation for glory days
in the future. Now only if Seattle could get an O which
could atleast move the ball the length of the field and
score atleast FGs if not TDS, what a team they will be. Against the
Elway-Broncos today what a stellar performance by the Seattle-D:
Cortez Kennedy in particular. Seattle fans, u have nothing
to be ashamed off. If u get some O ur team will be an
AFC power house.

As for the Chargers; they are a team on the rise and they
will rise even more in the future. Congratulations to
Bobby Ross and his Chargers and their fans to be the
first team in NFL history to overcome a 0-4 start and
go into the playoffs. Who knows they can even win the
AFC-West.

S.H
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