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From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Learning about World War II in Japan
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:50:05 GMT

>Anybody know the acutal figure of death in the Nanking Massacre? 

An official date is 300,000. This was not impossible, considering
the killing competition among the soldiers in a month. Two very
notorious soldiers vied for the championship in a short time, one 
killed around 115, the other around 100.
From: callahan@clubzen.fidonet.org (Greg scanlan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: EXPO RUMOR CONTROL
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 22:52:14 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - Fidonet/Internet - +1 408 734 2289


Regarding some of the rumors that have spread RE: Anime Expo.
My position at the Expo was Director of Green Room Services.
The Green Room is a critical function, assisting with Guest
Liaison,and Programming.
To answer some of the rumors:
The Green Room menu featured several Japanese style,as well as
American dishes prepared fresh daily for the enjoyment of our
Guests.  
During operating hours the room was staffed by at least one
Translator.
Any request made by a Guest was immediately acted upon.
When a non English speaking Guest was on the Con. Floor they were
accompanied by a Translator.
If any of our Guests experienced problems with Con. staff I am
not aware of it.
Mr. and Mrs. Tomino, were in the Green Room when not otherwise
engaged. The Tomino's personal Translator Mr. Fred Schodt, was
with them most of the time.
There is a rumor that Mrs. Tomino was insulted by a member of the
Media.
I have spoken to Mr.Schodt regarding this matter, if indeed the
incident did take place Mrs. Tomino did not mention it to Mr.
Schodt.
It is my personal opinion that Mrs. Tomino is to gracious a
person to let such a faux pas insult her.
Mr. and Mrs. Tomino were holding return tickets for Sunday
morning. They did not leave the Convention early.
I hope that this will place at rest the rumors that have
been spreading like wildfire.
We all must remember that without the Guests that come to our
conventions, we do not have one. All of the Guests that come to
conventions are busy with their own schedule, and time out to
appear at a Con. is through their good will.


 ....RE-SUBMITTED FOR THOSE WOH MISSED THE FIRST POST
          ........GREG........

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: DP auxiliary character
From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:58:08 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
Keywords: Nanmo

Alan Takahashi writes:
>Think of the Crusher Joe robot (what was *his* name?), but shorter and
>rounder.

Dongo, I believe. It's been a while, and the friend with the Miyazaki
art book with his Joe stuff is in the Navy, so I can't double-check.

>Nanmo disappeared from the Dirty Pair OAVs, Project Eden and Flight 005.

And the SP english-version comics, as well. 
-- 
"I'd love to go out with you, but I'm staying home to work on my
cottage cheese sculpture."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
Subject: Re: moving the Expo (NOT)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:41:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <36313@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.011836.22230@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ae561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Wong) writes:
> >	Pro Agita., THAT is a good idea.  Having Expo on EVEN and 
> >Con on odd years.....VERY WORKABLE, MT and Dave.
> 
> Not quite what I meant.  I don't want to split Con and Expo.  I just
> want to rotate the *one* Anime<insert name here> between North and South.
> 
OK, how about rotating San Diego Comic con up south?  Or maybe
Gencon to the west coast?  Isn't going to happen...  So why
should the Bay Area con get moved south?  Start your own con,
if you want one down there!

-steve
From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:27:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hiroshi accidentally sent this message as an e-mail. So I'm posting
it on his behalf. 

------------------------------
From hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu Sun Jul 26 12:21:52 1992
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 15:21:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hiroshi Haga <hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)

Eh, 'Otaku' is not really a formal form of 'you'...  The formal form
of 'you' is 'Anata'.  'Otaku' means 'your home' or 'your family'
used among married females, rather.


Hiroshi Haga 
K'2l Bg;V(hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu)

"It's not true unless it makes you laugh, but you don't understand
 until it makes you weep" - a quote from Illuminatus!
--------------------------------

Hmm...I thought the original meaning of "otaku" was used by both male and
female and meant "you" as well as "your home". Anyway, here's the 
definition of "otaku" from Kodansha's Dictionary of Japanese Language 
(ISBN4-06-121057-2 c0581 p7300E), published 1990.


OTAKU
(1) Honorific expression for "your home" "your house" "your company"
"your husband".
(2) The second person. "anata (you)".

Maybe the dictionary is wrong and Hiroshi is right. I can't tell
for sure since I didn't major in Japanese.


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*            Sequel to OnV was just a daydream of otakus....    *
*             <Kubo Misuzu of GAINAX, June 92 Newtype>          *
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From: deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich)
Subject: Re: Bay Area Con Politics
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:56:07 GMT

weird@netcom.com (Richard A. Ney) writes:
>B) Why it would be difficult to hold on East Coast.

>	   The main people who organize the Conventions are on the West Coast!

>	   Instead of GoHs we would be flying Key organizers to East Coast to 
>	   Run the Convention. 

I don't mean this as a flame or anything, but I find it hard to believe that
there is NO ONE on the east coast competent enough to run an anime convention.
I've seen ads for plenty of sci-fi and Star Trek conventions east of the 
Mississippi (some of them quite large), so there must be some people who have
what it takes to organize a con.  I'm bet if you look hard enough you could
find enough people willing to organize an East Coast anime con.

Of course you guys on the West Coast have the edge in experience, but I 
wouldn't think they'd have to fly you to the East Coast just to get advice.

Anyway, just my $0.02.


Dave Deitrich
One o' the guys in charge of JACK
deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

Still desperately looking for a used VCR...
From: hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hiroshi Haga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:43:12 GMT
	<36164@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ah, yes, people calls you Otaku by just loving anime.  My friends did
call me so, but they learned that I am not.  Well, they still called
me 'lewed and perverted', anyway.  But that's okay.  I know that
myself.


Hiroshi Haga 
$@K'2l(J $@Bg;V(J(hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu)

"It's not true unless it makes you laugh, but you don't understand until it
 makes you weep" - a quote from Illuminatus!
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: VP Miyu LD
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:24:56 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


The VPM LD I receieved has the Table of Contents on the jacket.  If
that's not what you're referring to, what is?
 
On my equipment (extremely low-end LD-1100) the subtitles looked
perfect, no ghosting or anything.  However, there were two vertical
bars that constantly went back and forth through the picture, not
really noticable until Episode 4.
 
-RJ

-- 
The Next Challenge - Public Access Unix in Northern Va. - Washington D.C.
703-803-0391 To log in for trial and account info.
From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Grave of the Fireflies and CPM
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:38:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network



No need to worry, GotF is being marketed as a "foreign film" under 
Central Park Media's label, and NOT US Manga Corps' label.  The latest
word seems to be GotF will be one of the early 93 releases.  Maybe someone
(L.Maltin, or S&E) will actually look at it and comment about it, as they
seem to gravitate to good foreign subtitled film.


Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
LEader of Otaku Ninja Team Gavigan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: We Need Anime in the Theatres
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:05:15 GMT

     RE: If Macross 2 doesn't do well the Us won't be flooded with OAV's
Oh c'mon mike are you trying to make us buy this video out of guilt? The only
reason I watched it was of the name. How on earth is this lame show gonna make it big in the US? 

-- 
  RUMORS OF MY DEMISE ARE IN FACT...
ARE NOT EXAGGERATED! I AM IN FACT DEAD.        ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu

                        <<FNORD>>
From: ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Young Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Need info on Dagger of Kamui...
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:35:55 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Update:
Still working on the Dagger of Kamui script.
Thanks Sherman Chan, for providing a rough BBS
script of the thing.  Lot of polishing up needed.

Expected it out in a week or two...

Question:
In the scene where the foreign sailors first appear: ie, some Japanese
Samurai are blown away by European rifles, and a bunch of sailors get
on rowboats while Sam is left behind etc.

Could someone explain a few things to me?
First, what are these sailors doing here?  Were they in a stockade or
something and managed to smuggle some guns in to blow away the guards?
Second, after the guards are blow away, a bunch of Japanese soldiers
start running.  Are they running away from the foreigners or are they
trying to catch them?  If they are trying to run away, at what point do
the Japanese trying to catch the foreigners appear?

Finally:
Anyone with info to add the the script, please E-Mail me.

Stay cool,
- Y.E.S. (ST102272@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU)
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: We Need Anime in the Theatres
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:12:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Jul22.201228.24603
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Jul22.175740.3991@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Christopher Meadows) writes:
> 
> We need more quality animation around, GOOD animation whose artwork and
> plotlines belie the old myth that cartoons are "just for kids."  We need
> to get adults interested.
[...]
> No, what is needed is theatrical releases.

I disagree.  What is needed is:
- Video releases available for RENT in video stores.
- Some TV or (better yet) cable exposure.  Have Cinemax show AKIRA.  Have
  MTV show some good video clips of anime (like the Sweet videos, or the
  upcoming "The Running Man" clip for Liquid Television.

> If a cartoon was billed as a
> feature film, and given a PG, PG-13, or even R rating, adults would come,

Nope.  See COOL WORLD.  Then again, I'd rather not have.  :-(

> However, it would probably have to be dubbed, as opposed to subtitled.
> Even though the quality would probably not approach the original (as many
> hard-core anime fans insist), the average non-anime fan would prefer not  
> having to try to read at the same time as he watched a show.  And it would 
> have to be widely-released, nationwide.  And it would have to be GOOD.

Isn't this the same thing Streamline is trying to do?  So why are they
failing?

> ROBOTECH: THE MOVIE might have succeeded, if only it had been nationally
> released, instead of merely test-marketed in Houston.

So why wasn't it released?  Free clue: even Carl Macek didn't like it.

> The problem was (as I see it) that it was identified with a TV show
> that was thought of as being "just for kids" by those who had never watched
> it, through the simple premise that it was a cartoon on TV, and therefore
> not for adults.

Robotech WAS an action adventure show for kids/teenagers.

I don't expect anime to have a mainstream appeal to people.  It's too good
for that.  :-/  What I would like is for it to have a bigger appeal than
it has now.  I want to go to a video store and rent anime as easily as I
can go and rent THE PRISONER episodes.  I want to be able to say "I'm an
animation fan" and not get odder looks than the guy down the hall who has
an Enterprise-D hanging from the ceiling and comes every Halloween dressed
as a Starfleet officer.  I want to get some respect!!  :-)
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: jharvey@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Harvey)
Subject: Re: triva
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:55:07 GMT

In article <5200@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> LINC%DUVM.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (City Hunter) writes:
>hi there,
>
>here is a trivia for your animes buffs.
>
>Is Yellow Dancer the only male singer in animes?
>

There's also that singer in To-y


Ja Ne


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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Christopher Meadows)
Subject: We Need Anime in the Theatres
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:57:40 GMT


It is my personal feeling that a great deal of the animation around 
today is drek (to use a term from Shadowrun), plain and simple.  Even
when the animation itself is good, the storytelling is often lousy.

There are of course a few exceptions to this rule, but not many.  Of
course, I'm referring to the American animation shown today, not Japanese
anime (though with so many of our American cartoons animated in the Orient,
it's kind of hard to tell the difference anymore).  And this is where I
make my point.

We need more quality animation around, GOOD animation whose artwork and
plotlines belie the old myth that cartoons are "just for kids."  We need
to get adults interested.

But how can this be done?  Certainly not with TV shows.  Sure, THE        
SIMPSONS is an "adult-oriented" cartoon, but, well, as cartoons go, it just
doesn't fit the bill.            
No, what is needed is theatrical releases.  If a cartoon was billed as a
feature film, and given a PG, PG-13, or even R rating, adults would come,
as well as those adolescents who never really stopped loving cartoons but
need an excuse (such as that provided by a non-G rating) to go and see one.
And of course the perfect film to go and see would have to be anime.

However, it would probably have to be dubbed, as opposed to subtitled.
Even though the quality would probably not approach the original (as many
hard-core anime fans insist), the average non-anime fan would prefer not  
 
having to try to read at the same time as he watched a show.  And it would 
have to be widely-released, nationwide.  And it would have to be GOOD.

ROBOTECH: THE MOVIE might have succeeded, if only it had been nationally
released, instead of merely test-marketed in Houston.  True, it might
be very mangled, but it could have served as an introduction to the amazing
new world of Japanese animation for those people not yet acquainted with
it.  The problem was (as I see it) that it was identified with a TV show
that was thought of as being "just for kids" by those who had never watched
it, through the simple premise that it was a cartoon on TV, and therefore
not
for adults.

I'm probably preaching to a pre-converted audience, but I can't help but
feel that if some company were to translate anime, and translate it RIGHT,
it could go over in a big way here in America.  I wish that such a thing
would happen...
 
---Chris Meadows//chm173s@smsvma.bitnet//cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: yen1366@cucs17.cs.cuhk.hk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: <None>
Date: 20 Jul 92 07:12:48 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Sci, CUHK

> 	Actually, the name of the game is
> 	
> 	Super SpaceFortress Macross
> 
> it was put out by BanPresto, Inc. earlier this year.  The visuals are based
> on the Macross Movie.  Decent graphics, format is similar to Rai-Den.  
> Sorry, but Lin Minmei and Lin Kyle, who do make brief appearances in the 
> first stage of the game, can NOT be shot (aww, bugger)
> 
> The only place where I saw this game was at The Husky Den, near the University
> of Washington at Seattle campus.

     Yeah! I've played this game in Hong Kong! Really great!

     However, I think the BGMs are not too good. Just the beginning part
is the original Macross BGM.

     Before I decided to finish the game. The game machine is moved... *sigh*
 
Regards,
CT Yen.
From: noelg@pnet01.cts.com (Noel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RUMOR:  BATTLETECH anime!! (KENICHI SONODA CHARACTER DESIGNS)
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:16:18 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:

>I just browsed the Tech Readout 3055 in a bookstore the other da
>noticed the new designs for all the old mecha stolen from Macros
>ones in the Readout the Japanese designs?

Yeah, I think the Tech Readout has some designs ripped off from Macross
and Dougram.  The magazine that has BattleTech Replay is Dragon Magazine.
It is not manga, but a story with some character and mecha illustrations.

It's funny; years ago, FASA ripped off Kawamori's designs for Battletech.
Now, Kawamori is designing Battletech.


Noel Gamboa, Operation X (noelg@pnet01.cts.com)
Yoshiyuki Tomino: "Who's Charles Aznavour?"
From: tdinh@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Thien Dinh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re:  Anime Games on IBM: Princess Maker and Ranma
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:54:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <9207222351.AA01173@pooky.EE.McGill.CA> fongj@pooky.EE.McGill.CA (chun kwai jay fong) writes:
>Hi William,
>
>  I didn't know Ranma was available for the IBM?!?!  I thought it was only
>available on the PC Engine SCD or the SNES?!  Where'd you get it?!
>
>Jay

I just called him yesterday to ask about the same question and he
said a friend of his in Taiwan bought it there. It was made by some
company called SoftStar(Or at least that's what it sounded like).
Anybody know anything more about this?

					Thien
From: callahan@clubzen.fidonet.org (Greg scanlan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: EXPO RUMOR CONTROL
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 23:35:42 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - Fidonet/Internet - +1 408 734 2289


Regarding some of the rumors that have spread RE: Anime Expo.
My position at the Expo was Director of Green Room Services.
The Green Room is a critical function, assisting with Guest
Liaison,and Programming.
To answer some of the rumors:
The Green Room menu featured several Japanese style,as well as
American dishes prepared fresh daily for the enjoyment of our
Guests.  
During operating hours the room was staffed by at least one
Translator.
Any request made by a Guest was immediately acted upon.
When a non English speaking Guest was on the Con. Floor they were
accompanied by a Translator.
If any of our Guests experienced problems with Con. staff I am
not aware of it.
Mr. and Mrs. Tomino, were in the Green Room when not otherwise
engaged. The Tomino's personal Translator Mr. Fred Schodt, was
with them most of the time.
There is a rumor that Mrs. Tomino was insulted by a member of the
Media.
I have spoken to Mr.Schodt regarding this matter, if indeed the
incident did take place Mrs. Tomino did not mention it to Mr.
Schodt.
It is my personal opinion that Mrs. Tomino is to gracious a
person to let such a faux pas insult her.
Mr. and Mrs. Tomino were holding return tickets for Sunday
morning. They did not leave the Convention early.
I hope that this will place at rest the rumors that have
been spreading like wildfire.
We all must remember that without the Guests that come to our
conventions, we do not have one. All of the Guests that come to
conventions are busy with their own schedule, and time out to
appear at a Con. is through their good will.
 

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From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: CD??!!
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:19:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


     There has been a very interesting and disturbing question that I have
meant to ask for a while.  Basically, most of the ANIME CDs are manufactured
by "FUTURELAND/TOSHIBA EMI" when they are ordered in the United States.  
But, during my recent trip to Asia this summer, I noticed that almost all of
the ANIME CDs sold are manufactured by SM RECORDS.  ALL Indications to me
says that these disks are as legitiment as the EMI ones.  Can anyone verify the 
legitimancy of SM RECORD's pressing of the disks?  (NOTE: I personally have
the same disc from both manufactures.)  Please email to thwang@mentor.cc.
purdue.edu.  Thanks.
 
                                                       -TKH '92
From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Yotoden & other info. request
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:08:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul21.160132.10579@ariel.ec.usf.edu> clark@daffy.tmc.edu (Matthew Clark) writes:
>>
>>Briefly, Yotoden takes place when Nobunaga Oda attempted to unify the
>>country under his rule.  Because Oda is such a notorious figure, the
>>writer introduces the idea of demonic possession.
>
>For stuff about Oda, try Kujaku-Oh 2.  There's plenty of Oda there!

Well, he's even WORSE in Kujaku-Oh manga (vol.10), being a wimpy
lackey of Satan. I guess Oda is not very popular among manga
writers. :-)


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*                          Operation X                          *
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From: chet@whitebase.ukp.com (Chet Jasinski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: moving the Expo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:35:26 EDT
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

> 
> >With all this talk about moving the Expo to the East Coast, I thought
> >I'd float out my own proposal.
> 
> Nani??  East Coast??  That would mean I couldn't attend anymore!  
  
     Hmmm, if you look at this from an east coasters perspective, this is 
exactly what they say about AnimeCon/Expo except they mean simply that they 
can't afford to go.

     ---Chet <Chairman Atlantic Anime Alliance>


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