HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Stanford vs. A&M (was Re: ATM Graduation Rates)
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:00:30 GMT

Randall Rhea (randall@informix.com) wrote:
: The Aggie defense, on the other hand, was nothing short of
: awesome.  They remind me a lot of Washington's defense last
: year.   Very, very, very, quick.    If their offense can get

Actually, they reminded *me* a lot of Texas A&M's defense last year.  :^)

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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TOP 10 TEAMS: WHO HAS THE EASIEST SCHEDULE?
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:55:48 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep2.171731.19595@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.214358.21420@fcom.cc.utah.edu> jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:
>>
>>	In the Top 10 teams, who has the easiest schedule? 
>>	UW?
>>	Texas A&M?
>>	FSU?
>
>[Drum roll.......]
>
>Obviously Michigan, since they get to play 8 Big Ten teams!

  Ouch!  I know that got SOMEONE on edge... :-)


  Doug
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From: trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice)
Subject: Is it Hokie woofing, or Cav Boo-Hooing?
Reply-To: trice@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 13:52:55 GMT


How can we still be talking about a game that happened 2 years ago?  You
just don't get it do you?  Its not a football thing, it's not a rich-boy
vs. hardworking student thing, it's a rival thing.

UVa thought they were unbeatable, and here comes little ole' Tech, viewed
as a bunch of farmboys by some, and embarrasses UVa and the Sugar Bowl
Committee all at once.  Its about proving that:

a) Virginia Tech doesn't "suck" as someone else so eloquently put it
   earlier
b) UVa isn't as good as they think they are
c) Tech can hold its own when there is a level of concentration and just
   plain old determination!
d) Some of Tech's players are not only very good but good enough to be
   considered by the NFL

Hokies aren't "hanging onto a 2 year old victory"  Someone brought up the
1990 season and the Georgia Tech game so I put in my $.02.  You started this
bash-fest.

If you would like to continue this discussion, take it to email (preferably
my other email address mrmidi@aol.com for the sake of my employer.)  I am
quite versed in Boo-Hoo bashing, so lets take it there and quit wasting
other subscribers  time.

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From: rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: thurman thomas/barry sanders commercial
Date: 26 Aug 1992 15:21:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: na
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute

In article <1992Aug26.101138.25291@news.cs.indiana.edu> kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Sid Kitchel) writes:
)cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA) writes:
)
)|>I saw a cute commercial the other day.
)|>This is not intended to start an ongoing
)|>debate about who the best running back in
)|>the NFL is, merely to relate a cute
)|>commercial.
)
)|>It was a commercial for Oklahoma State football
)|>tickets with both Thurman Thomas and Barry
)|>Sanders and it went something like this:
)
)|>Barry Sanders:  I'm often asked who the best running back in the NFL is.
)|>                I'm not sure I can answer that question, but my friend,
)|>                Thurman Thomas, can answer it for you.
)|>Thurman Thomas: Thanks for putting me in the hot seat, Barry.  I am not
)|>                sure who the best running back in the NFL is either, but
)|>                I bet he went to Oklahoma State.
)
)	Not being a real betting person, I won't bet with Thurmon. I
)will say that I KNOW who the best NFL running back is. He happens to
)wear silver and blue.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Alright Sid!!  A vote for Emmitt Smith!!  
He *DID* win the NFL rushing crown last year, after all!!




Ray   GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big Ten Preview (9-5-92)
Summary: Three on the tube...
Keywords: Big Ten
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:38:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.Bu0MH8.E90
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


Games of September 5:

Louisville at OHIO STATE (11:30 am Central, ESPN, National):  This is
	Cooper's year, methinks.  Robert Smith is back and the Buckeyes
	should be ready to win more than 7 games for a change.  Who knows
	what the Cardinals will be like after last year's disaster...
	OHIO STATE 31, Louisville 10.

Notre Dame vs. NORTHWESTERN at Soldier Field (2:30 pm Central, ABC):
	Nice thought here, having this game at a sold-out Soldier
	Field.  Of course, there will be more ND "subway alumni" there
	than Wildcat fans.  Gary Barnett, baptism by fire...
	Notre Dame 45, NORTHWESTERN 13.

Northern Illinois at ILLINOIS (6:00 pm Central):  Lou Tepper begins
	his first full season at the helm of the Illini ship.  On paper,
	this team looks very good, capable of finishing second or better
	in the Big Ten.  However, with a new coach, you never know.  Not
	much of a matchup here, as Illinois has a fairly light pre-
	conference schedule this time around...  ILLINOIS 38, NIU 12.

Miami at IOWA (0-1) (7:00 pm Central, ABC, National):  Nobody can say that
	Hayden is playing patsies this year.  Kinnick Stadium is always worth
	a few points for the homestanders.  I wonder how those thuggish
	Miami players will react to the pink visitors' locker room???
	Miami 34, IOWA 16.

Next Saturday:

	Northwestern at Boston College
	Missouri at Illinois (2:30 pm, ABC, Regional)
	Iowa State at Iowa (11:30 am, ESPN, National)
	Bowling Green at Ohio State (2:30 pm, ABC, Regional)
	California at Purdue (1:00 pm)
	Central Michigan at Michigan State (yikes!)
	Miami (OH) at Indiana
	Michigan at Notre Dame (Noon, NBC, National)
	San Jose State at Minnesota
	Wisconsin at Washington

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: ACC Predictions 9/5/92
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:48:54 GMT


Haven't seen any yet, so I thought I'd post some ACC predictions for
discussion.

Ball State at Clemson 
---------------------
This is Clemson's usual cakewalk opener. The Tigers will look
ahead to next week's meeting with Florida State. This should be a
nice warm-up for them.
Clemson 51 Ball State 7

Duke at Florida State 
---------------------
The Seminoles begin conference play with what should be an easy game.
Duke is very thin especially after Senior QB Dave Brown unexpectedly
decided to turn pro after last season. Charlie Ward will start at QB for
the Seminoles. 
Florida State 41 Duke 14

Maryland at Virginia  
--------------------
Maryland has upset Virginia two years in a row. Most of the starters for
Virginia are returning, with the only major question mark at QB, where
fifth-yearman Bobby Goodman will start.  Look for Terry Kirby to get
plenty of carries - UVa will try to win with a strong running game. 
Mark Duffner brings the run and shoot to Maryland. The Terps have a
good Offensive Line, but no proven QB. 
Virginia 24 Maryland 17

North Carolina at Wake Forest  (JP Sports ACC Game of The Week)
-----------------------------
Bill Dooley will be leaving Wake Forest after this season. Wake does not
have the talent or depth to compete in the ACC.  North Carolina is projected
for a big improvement this season and may get a bowl bid if things
go well.
North Carolina 34 Wake Forest 17

Appalachian State at North Carolina State  
-----------------------------------------
NC State is coming off of a great Kickoff Classic win. This one should
be no problem. 
NC State 21 Appalachian State 7  
-- 
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U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: NCSU!
Keywords: n
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:17:20 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

NCSU will be in the top 20 for years to come!!!  They now have a much better
chance of beating FSU!!!  NCSU is the best team in the country!!!

...wait, I must be delirious....
    must have been because of the teacup ride at Disneyland...

seriously though...  congrats to the NCSU team for pulling that one off..

my thoughts on Stanford:
   great defense!!  
   Milburn is a quick little guy, with good hands, but don't make him
      try to block.  Just watch the plays where he tried to block, ouch.
      
my thoughes on A&M:
   great defense!!
   get an offense!!   :-)   I think Sept 5 in Baton Rouge will give the
      country a better indication of the Cardinal defense than the 
      Pigskin Classic did.

cmuck

=======================================================================
Aggie winning streak ------>   1   and counting
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From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 20--1 Sep
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  3 Sep 1992 12:50 EST  

In article <92246.091950ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes...
> 
>     I don't remember for sure if I saw Stanford in your first rankings, but
>I thought I did... If so, did the Cardinal really fall *completely* out of the
>top 25 after losing to a Top 10 team by the spread (a field goal)?
> 
>Brett

In the early part of the season, the difference between team weights is 
very small, so the rankings are quite volatile.  Stanford went from No. 19 
with a 1.5 weighting to a 1.4 weight, which leaves them at No. 28.  They 
stand a fair chance of moving back into the Top 25 while idle this week.

R Dendy

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rjones@z.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones)
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:37:49 GMT

In article <laagj1INNbar@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
>I still find it interesting that Russell White wanted to come to USC,
>but was not accepted due to poor academic standing.  Of course Cal
>took him as quick as possible...

Didn't we go through this last year?  I get no end of amusement out of seeing
people from the "other school in LA" imply that their school has higher
academic standards than Cal or UCLA.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 92 12:05:46 CST
From:         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: r.s.f.c. Preseason Poll
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.football.college


So far, I've received preseason rankings from the following
people listed below.  Keep sending them in!  There must be more
than 13 people reading this list...

I'll take your top 25 (or fewer) teams as late at tonight and
post the results tomorrow - Bapi.

vqa       at     delaware
henstrom  at     ichips
kollur    at     rpi
mm42      at     prism
brown-d   at     cis
kprashan  at     sdcc3
C1H3384   at     TAMRIGEL
m1d4783   at     tamsun
juodvalk  at     ee
jcho      at     NMSU
msg       at     dsg
wshb!cee  at     uunet
pokey     at     ccwf
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: currin@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU
Subject: Kick Off Classic
Reply-To: currin@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 04:39:04 GMT

Wolf Wolf :-)
RC
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From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the polls)
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:24:07 GMT

--
>>By the way, just to set the record straight, I shall REPEAT my 1992 Big-8
>>prediction. Just to keep the masses silent.  ;^)
>>
>>        1. Oklahoma,  Colorado  (Flip a coin)
>>        3. Nebraska
>>
>>        Provided that: 1. OU and CU sucessfully convert to the "passing game"
>>                       2. NU Coach Osborne stays suck in the 70s
>>
>>        IF OU and CU struggle with their offensive game conversions AND
>>        Coach Osborne opens the offense up...
>>
>>        1. Nebraska
>>        2. Oklahoma,  Colorado  (Flip a coin)
>>        3. Colorado,  Oklahoma  (Flip a coin)
>>

>     Wow, you're really going out on a limb with your Big Three predictions.
>Let's see, you've taken the only three schools from that conference that
>acutally play Division I football and basically said that you're pretty sure
>that a nuclear war won't obliterate the country next year.  C'mon, man,
>pretend you're in Vegas and are putting down $1000 on the finish.  None of
>this "Here's my prediction: flip a coin, I can't decide" or "Team X will
>finish first unless they suck, then they won't" bullshit.  Who do you pick?

Fine !!!! Ok, based on what I THINK will happen - which means nothing - here
is the pick:

	1. CU
	2. OU
	3. NU

You could have figured that the NU 3rd part from my previous post but since
you wanted me to say it directly and without ANY conditions - I did.

Husker Henderson

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From: andy@misha.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Paying athletes
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:42:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andy@misha.central.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

In article 236@awdprime.austin.ibm.com, jpd@austin.ibm.com () writes:
>
>C'mon, are they STUDENT-athletes or what?
Now where did you get a stupid idea like that ?  You want to see
student atheles,  go watch division III ball.  

These are revenue generation measures, nominally connected to the
university that happens to have the same name.  And,  at times there 
are members of the team who actually deserve the opportunity to 
go to the university they attend.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege)
Subject: Re: acc football fsu style
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:41:43 GMT

All I know is that FSU  has to play all of their toughest
ACC games away this year.  The will do good to beat Georgia
Tech, Clemson and Virginia each at home.  We'll see...

Dallas
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: My SEC Predictions
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug27.125327.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, blayre01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes...
#East Finish
#___________
#Florida
#Tennessee
#Kentucky
#Georgia
#Vanderbilt
#South Carolina
# 
#Kentucky should be much improved with an offense suited for Pookie Jones. Curry
#has switched to a wishbone and should have a well-rounded backfield to
#succesfully run the ball. The third year is the charm for Kentucky as they will
#go 6-5 and receive a bid to a minor bowl.

This is utterly ridiculous:  how do you figure that Georgia is going to
finish at 6-5 or under?  Coming off a 9-3 season and losing only 8 starters
from last year, Georgia looks capable of beating Florida for the East!
Who do you figure the Dawgs will lose to?

Sure wins:  @SouthCarolina, Fullerton State, @Arkansas, GaSouthern
Probable wins:  Mississippi, Vandy, @Kentucky, @Auburn
Tossups:  Tennessee, GaTech
Probable losses:  Florida

Figure UGA goes .500 vs. the tossups and .750 vs. the probable wins, Georgia
is 8-3 (6-2 or 5-3):  good enough for at least third in the East.  Kentucky
may go 6-5, but will be a mere 4-4 (at best) in conference.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
V262XXVE@UBVMS.BITNET
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Why so many Va Tech woofers?
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:52:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep03.193927.19516@brtph560.bnr.ca> trice@bnr.ca writes:
>
>Tech doesn't center its whole philosophy around a football team though, unlike
>UVa.  Maybe this will be the highlight film for the 90s, remember my first 
>point: the "mediocre" Tech team beat the "big-bad #1" team in the nation
>despite being slated to loose big.  It was nice to see cocky folks in Orange
>and Blue leave with their collective heads hung low. 
>Yeah, yeah, I know . . .  Tech isn't the first team to do this and wont be 
>the last.

YES, BUT THIS GAME WAS 2 YEARS AGO.
WHEN THIS GAME TOOK PLACE, THE SOVIET UNION STILL EXISTED,
YUGOLSAVIA STILL EXISTED
AND GEORGE BUSH HAD POPULARITY RATINGS IN THE 90% RANGE

in other words, what have you done for me lately?
>
>
>|> Oh, and by the way, what was the score in 91 when UVA played Tech?
>
>UVa beat Tech, I don't remember the score.
>

I dont remember the exact score either; the game was such a blowout I
left early. 38-0 sounds about right, but as I said, i dont remember.

I just cant believe you tech folks have the balls to woof about beating UVA
the year before last, ESPECIALLY considering the humiliation you got last
year.

-rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:43:46 GMT

wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

>Watch out in the bowls, you east coast snobs.

Yes.  I see.

I see one game that would support this:

Citrus          Cal 37 Clemson 13

and 2 games that would not support this:

California      Bowling Green 28  Fresno State 21
Aloha           Georgia Tech 18 Stanford 17

add 2 more sad performances by California teams
(though not quite EC opponents...):

Freedom         Tulsa 28 San Diego St 17
John Hancock    UCLA 6  Illinois 3

and So Cal stayed home...

Yes, we're all quite scared over here on the East Coast.

Michael Nelson
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:23:35 GMT

In article <Btuzwz.FAF@news.larc.nasa.gov>, mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
> >Watch out in the bowls, you east coast snobs.
> 
> Yes.  I see.
> I see one game that would support this:
> Citrus          Cal 37 Clemson 13
> 
> and 2 games that would not support this:
> California      Bowling Green 28  Fresno State 21
> Aloha           Georgia Tech 18 Stanford 17
> 
> add 2 more sad performances by California teams
> (though not quite EC opponents...):
> Freedom         Tulsa 28 San Diego St 17
> John Hancock    UCLA 6  Illinois 3
> 
> and So Cal stayed home...
> Yes, we're all quite scared over here on the East Coast.
> Michael Nelson


You forgot to mention the whalloping Washington gave to Michigan
in the Rose Bowl. 

The fact remains that California *totally* destroyed Clemson in the
Citrus. Cal passed the ball at will on the 'strong' defense, and
then ran all over them.

Even after losing Pawlawski, the Bears should have been
ranked higher than Clemson. They still have Russel White.








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From: salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena)
Subject: Re: MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY-SCHEDULE
Organization: Toshiba America MRI Inc, S. San Francisco, CA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:10:21 GMT

In article <25AUG199214022320@watson.bms.com> kaufman@watson.bms.com (Jonathan Kaufman) writes:
>Does anyone know this seasons MSU football schedule?  
>

Sept. 12       Central Michigan
Sept. 19        Notre Dame
Sept. 26       at Boston College
Oct.   3       Indiana
Oct.  10       at Michigan
Oct.  17       at Minnesota
Oct.  24       Ohio State
Oct.  31       at Northwestern
Nov.   7       Wisconsin
Nov.  14       Purdue
Nov.  21       at Illinois



Lets hope George P. and company have their act together this year.

GO SPARTANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opionions expressed are mine and only mine <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: rszczerb@picasso.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: IOWA FALLS 14-24
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:33:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <67317@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) wrote:
>}
>}Well, sure, and I'm glad about it, but wasn't Iowa the LOWEST ranked opponent
>}an ACC team has faced in the Kickoff Classic?
>
>Notre Dame '89 finished #6 and Penn State '91 finished #3.  Judging
>from what I saw of Iowa Saturday night, they'll be hard-pressed to
>finish that high.
>
 
I think you've got your facts a little mixed up.  ND finished #2
in 1989, behind Miami ... though loyal ND fans such as myself
thought they deserved to be #1 ... but that's an old debate.


		- Rob
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: A&M BEATS BILL WALSH
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:00:55 GMT

On behalf of both Stanfraud and TAMU:

   Bring the F*cking Bears On.

-- 
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(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
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