From: c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...)
Subject: Re: Malaysia's racial policies
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:58:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.055829.19796@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> Chuah Yeow Chiang (chuah@sail.cc.u-tokyo.JUNET) wrote:
> : only give special privilege to the needy Malays(not to mention those well to
> : do Malays who benefited from the policy), but not those needy from other races?
> : 	Now, don't give me the crap about Malaysia government also give
> : scholarships to non-bumi's,...etc,.. Yes. We all know that. But just look at
> : the proportion of the number awarded. Do you think it is proportional to the
> : needy population of the respective races in Malaysia? As T.P.Loh has pointed
> : out, for eg. only 5% or less of the Malaysian government scholarship for
> : tertiary study in Japan are given to non-bumi. Do you think that the number of
> : needy Malays are 20 times as much as those from the other races? There are also
> 
> Why not? Have you got figures to prove your view? You also forgot to take
> into account the excess effort needed to "catch up". Someone who is behind,
> needs much more effort to finally catch up.
> : the government should have noticed this reverse-effect already(e.g. the news
> : clip about Mahathir's critic towards bumi's,...) Just that they don't want to
> : admit the failure yet.
> 
> Which failures? They have already admitted a number of failures and they are
> changing their styles to correct these errors. We learn from our errors but
> giving financial assistance to bumis is not one of the failures. There may be
> some misuses but the concept itself is not a failure. It is just not enough
> because of the cost involved.
> 	The best solution is to build more local universities without 
> compromising standards. Mind you, our local universities are a lot better than
> some US universities. The overseas financial assistance should be given to
> the best students to got to the best Universities all over the world. The
> merit is more important than need here because it is very expensive to go to
> the best universities because these universities spend a lot of money to
> equip themselves.
> 	There is no need for us to have these HIGH class universities in large
> numbers because we cannot afford it.
> 
> THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I MENTION THIS IDEA. Not even my original idea, it
> was already proposed by some politicians.
> 
>  : 	Okay, my 2cents about NEP if I were to help Bumi's to achieve a better
> : situation,...  In fact, I feel that it's the way of thinking,
> : the mental value(hmm,... how should I say it?) that's the origin of the problems.
> 
> Is that ALL. Could this mental attitude be "cheating at all costs".
> Do you think WORKING HARD is ALL THERE IS TO IT.
> : The government is trying their best to benefit bumi's, for example by setting
> : the quota of 30% of business shares, creating the Amanah Saham National,...etc,
> : but after all, what happened? The bumi's sell it away to get instant profit.
> It seems as though you do not know how to get maximum money out of shares.
> 
> : In other words, they don't really know how to exploit the chance, the benefit
> : that the government is providing them. This attitude, I feel has nothing to do 
> : with those tertiary courses like Engineering, Medicine which the government is 
> : setting heavy quota in. In fact, if you want people to understand that, will
> : be better to stress on economics,... However, personally, I feel that more
> 
> Well I agree with you here.
> 
> : important will be the stress on primary and secondary education. It's the
> : problem with their attitude, not the technical knowledge. If they have the
> 
> You don't get this attitude from high school.
> : right attitude, they will work as hard as the other races are to achieve
> 
> Do the successful people really work hard? Or was it work smart?
> The Malays work harder than chinese in terms of expenditure of energy, mentally
> or physically. But productivity has nothing to do with human effort.

And oxygen, obviously.

[Directed at Othman, no other Malays need take offense.  :)   ]

Fal.....reply to THIS account!!  ;)

> 	You should read my article on productivity.
> 
> : a better situation, with or without the government assistance. But I would
> : strongly against the way of civics lesson which tends to stir up racial
> : conflict as Mee Teng has stated what he heard of,...
> : 	Well, anyway, that's just my opinion. You can always disagree with it!
> : But please, stop comparing who is poorer, who makes more bucks,..etc. If you
> : think you know the problem of the situation we are facing, try to state it out,
> : and try to suggest a solution to it. Don't let the thread to follow its same
> : old path to flaming, name calling, net-war again.
> How many potential solutions had been overlooked? Instead they want to focus
> on their lies. If it were true, they will be accepted.
> 
> --
> Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
> Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
> Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
> Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
> 
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