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From: haroldt@orion.yorku.ca
Subject: Re: Another Fan question...
Organization: York University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:14:07 GMT

In article <1asg54INN3fr@skat.usc.edu>, jlowrey@skat.usc.edu (John 'Fritz' Lowrey) writes:
> 
> 	Folks,
> 	I have decided to replace the fans in my 7300 with a Radio Shack
> 120VAC fan.  I intend to solder the leads from the fan directly to the 
> switch assembly so that it responds to the switch and does not require a 
> separate plug.  The question is, what is the conventional wisdom about dealing
> with the old DC fan power leads, should I just insulate the ends and tape
> them off, or should I do something else entirely?

  This should not be a problem.  Electrically it will make next to no
differance provided the fan does not inject any noise to the line.  Idealy
you may want to plug the fan into a power bar with the computer and a 
surge protector.  This way the computer is somewhat protected.
 
> 						Fritz
> 
> PS: Hey, DoN, I plan to mount the fan inward facing as you suggest, so
> that dust bunnies are reduced, and hopefully the case will swallow some of
> the additional sound generated by the AC fan (I have to sleep in the same

  Can someone please explain to me how pushing potentially dusty air into 
the computer at higher speeds is going to reduce dust bunnies?  This will
also create a relative high pressure area inside the case which was 
designed to flow based on vaccuum.  Granted, my fan also pushes air into
the case, but mine is in a custom case and one day will have a filter on the
fan to reduce bunnies.

HT.
From: plu@math.psu.edu (Todd Andrew Simpson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Emacs problem on 3b1
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:12:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Pennsylvania State University

In article <Bvo453.Ktn@world.std.com> mulvey@world.std.com (Richard K Mulvey) writes:

      I recently purchased a 3B1 with system software 3.0 on it.  I downloaded
   a copy of GNUEMACS from OSU, and installed it on my machine.  However,
   whenever I attempt to execute emacs, it returns me to the shell with
   the message 'Cannot open termcap database.'  I've set the TERMCAP
   variable to /etc/termcap, but to no avail... does anyone have a pointer
   or two as to what I need to do to get the editor running?

I have version 3.5 and have not experienced this problem, but I believe I
can give you some pointers.... The TERMCAP variable is meant to contain a
string that describes the terminal capabilities, rather than the name of
the file where the termcap database is found.  There is a program called
`tset' that can generate the necessary TERM and TERMCAP variables.
(I don't really know whether this is part of the foundation set, or the
development set.)  `tset -s -Q' produces shell commands that will do this;
when I run this command on my 3b1, the result is:

export TERMCAP TERM;
TERM=PC7300;
TERMCAP='s4|PC7300|unixpc|pc7300|3b1:al=\E[1L:am:bs:cd=\E[0J:ce=\E[0K:cl=\E[2J\E[H:cm=\E[%i%2;%2H:co#80:dc=\E[1P:dl=\E[1M:do=\E[B:ei=:ho=\E[H:ic=\E[1@:im=:kb=\10:kd=\E[B:kl=\E[D:kr=\E[C:ku=\E[A:li#24:k1=\EOc:k2=\EOd:k3=\EOe:k4=\EOf:k5=\EOg:k6=\EOh:k7=\EOi:k8=\EOj:nd=\E[C:se=\E[m:so=\E[7m:ue=\E[m:up=\E[A:us=\E[4m:EE=\E[m:BO=\E[1m:DS=\E[2m:XS=\E[9m:CV=\E[=C:CI=\E[=1C:KM=/usr/lib/ua/kmap.s4';

To do this all in one line, try

  eval `tset -s -Q`

which takes the output of the tset -s -Q command and executes it, thereby
setting the variables.

Good luck!

   Thanks,
      - Rich


   -- 
   Rich Mulvey    mulvey@world.std.com       "A thing of beauty is a joy forever:
    {&&, ||}      73476.1142@compuserve.com   its loveliness increases; it will
   Katy Thornton (for two more weeks! :-)     never pass into nothingness..."


- Todd Andrew Simpson
From: jlowrey@skat.usc.edu (John 'Fritz' Lowrey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Another Fan question...
Date: 6 Oct 1992 09:50:44 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

	Folks,
	I have decided to replace the fans in my 7300 with a Radio Shack
120VAC fan.  I intend to solder the leads from the fan directly to the 
switch assembly so that it responds to the switch and does not require a 
separate plug.  The question is, what is the conventional wisdom about dealing
with the old DC fan power leads, should I just insulate the ends and tape
them off, or should I do something else entirely?

						Fritz

PS: Hey, DoN, I plan to mount the fan inward facing as you suggest, so
that dust bunnies are reduced, and hopefully the case will swallow some of
the additional sound generated by the AC fan (I have to sleep in the same
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: TEAC Combo 3.5 & 5.25 FD drive
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:54:49 GMT

In article <91099@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
[]
"     But *some* 1.44M 3.5" drives can be jumpered to operate 
"like 720K drives.

1.44M drives are DSQD 80TK; 720K 3.5" drives are SSQD 80TK, not DSDD
80TK.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: jwstok01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Tar files
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:57:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Sep29.214354.10503@alw.nih.gov>, jwa@helix.nih.gov (James W. Adams) writes:
> In article <BvAoHw.BA7@hico2.westmark.com> kak2@hico2.westmark.com writes:
>>Patrick C Greer (pcg2@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:
>>: ....  Also, is there a whereis command for the 3B1 like the suns?
> There is a "path" command on the UNIX-PC if I recall correctly.
> 
YES there is a path command with system 5 ver3.5 but not before (to my
knowledge!)  

usage:  #path filename
and it reports the path of any executable file it can find (any one in the path
I think)
					-John
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From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: problem installing an expansion rs232  port
Summary:  won't install
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:00:23 GMT

i have a 3b1 running 3.51m. i have a combo card with 1.5meg ram and
two rs232 ports on it. i just acquired a second 3b1 and am trying to
set up a null modem connection between the two. moving data back and
forth via floppies is not my cup of tea.

the re232 expansion software is installed. i have, counting from left
to right as viewed from the reasr, a tape board in slot one, nothing
in slot two and the combo board in slot three.

i login as install, select the administration  menu, then hardware
setup, then rs232 expansion setup.

the first box comes up listing the two ports, so the os knows they are
there. i select either of the two ports, and get a box with three
entires, one for device type, one for baud rate, and one for
flow-control, yes or no. 6this is already different form the manual in
the presence of the third line, but i have seen similar curiosities
yMbefore an ignore them.

i use cmd (or the mouse) and select COMPUTER as the device type, then
i hit Enter followed by return.

i select baud rate as 9600 (both by cmd menu and using the alternate
schemes, and hit enter followed by return.

I DO NOT GET the form selecting HOST or CALLER.


if i try to hit enter i get a message  /etc/hfc_ctl error and nothing
is entered.


is there something i am doing wrong?


is there a simple way as root to install the correct information into
the relevant places so that the ports will be set up? even if it is
not so simple?

where should i be looking in the system for this information so i can
fix things myself?

pussle out what is going on?
-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
From: gordon@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL (Gordon C. Zaft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Using the on/off switch
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:56:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: suned1.22845
Reply-To: gordon@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <1992Oct2.020908.4565@cs.ucla.edu>, robert@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Rob Karmolinski) writes:
>
>    Some people have mentioned that the 3B1 was designed to be left on
>*all* the time, and that turning it off and on will seriously shorten
>the life of the machine.  If someone could elaborate on this, I would
>surely appreciate it, as I have not seen this discussed at length on
>this newsgroup, nor is there any mention of this in the FAQ.

	hmm.  Well, I leave my machine on all the time, but then
my rent includes free utilities :-)....

	I think leaving the machine all the time is a good idea, so
long as you replace the DC temperature-controlled fans with an AC
one like I did.  That fixes the problem with the fans (I know
THAT's inthe FAQ).

	2-3 times a week is prolly not excessive, but it tends to
slow down your mail and news feeds....:-)

	Just my 2 cents.

GZ

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 The postman hits!  You have new mail."   -- Ed Vielmetti
From: dt@yenta.alb.nm.us (David B. Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Cnews on my 3b1
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:44:10 GMT
Organization: yenta unix pc, rio rancho, nm

hruska@toybox.raleigh.nc.us (Bob Hruska) writes:

>Other than the FAQ, is there any insight on installing cnews on the 3b1?
>If not, I might just write up exactly what I did.

Cute site name!  And good job... you're comin in loud n clear good buddy.

There's a C version of spacefor floating around that I'm using, and that
speeds things up a bit.  I also edited many of the scripts that report
errors or status so that the bulk of the interesting info would be in
the subject line of mail to NEWSMASTER, so I could just list the subject
lines instead of reading all the mail.

One more thing I did was invent my own expire utility, which I posted to
alt.sources some time ago.  It's called reap, and it does a prioritized
expire, according to what your favorite groups are and how long you'd like
to keep them.  The nice thing about reap is that it always stops when there's
enough room on your hard disk [you set this amount, of course].  That way,
you can automate the process of always keeping the stuff you like the most
for as long as possible, while never running out of disk.

I can email reap to you if you're interested.  It's also faster than expire
because it doesn't respect explicit "Expires:" lines in articles or the
history file.

							David
-- 
Will hack Unix for food.
From: hhc@athena.mit.edu (Hong-Hsiang Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: 19200 serial line problems
Summary: need help w/3b1 serial line
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:36:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep30.213648.15495
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology



I'm trying to get my two 3b1's to talk to each other over a 19200 baud
serial line, both attached to tty000 with a null modem in between.
I'm running 3.51m on both machines and have patched the kernel as per the
serial.pat instructions from the OSU archives.  

One machine is running HDB uucp, originally with an uugetty -r -t60 tty000 9600
on it.  the other machine has normal uucp with no getty on tty000.
Both machines run fine with a link at 9600, but I get garbage if I try to
run it a 19200 with a uugetty 19200 and a cu <other machine> -s19200.
If I try cu -s9600, I get a connection, but I can't get past login.  The
password is echoed and then nothing happens.

Can anybody help me with this?  Those of you with 19200 already set up, what
does your set-up look like?

Thanks in advance.
------
Hong-Hsiang (Sean) Chen
Internet: hhc@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: mulvey@world.std.com (Richard K Mulvey)
Subject: 3B1 references/Developer Kit/SW info
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:30:10 GMT





Hello!

   I recently purchased a 3B1, and would like to get some info:

   First, the FAQ indicates that the highest system level was 3.51.  My
machine is currently at 3.0, so could anybody tell me where I could get
upgrade disks?  I'll be happy to discuss price with you if you want to
unload yours.  :-)

   Secondly, I'd like to find a set of the Developers kit.  I know that I
can get the GNU C compiler from OSU, but I naturally still need the
libraries.  Any pointers?

   And finally, I'm looking for technical references.

   Isn't this a wonderful opportunity to get rid of some of those old disks
that have been laying around?  (*grin*)

Thanks for the help!
   - Rich

mulvey@world.std.com
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 {&&, ||}      73476.1142@compuserve.com   its loveliness increases; it will
Katy Thornton  rm3111@brock1p.bitnet       never pass into nothingness..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: hruska@toybox.raleigh.nc.us (Bob Hruska)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Cnews on my 3b1
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:22:52 GMT
Organization: toybox Unix system


Well, I finally got Cnews running on my 3b1.  This was my first
attempt at installing a major software package on ANY unix platform,
so it was quite interesting... You reading this is proof to me that
it worked!

Other than the FAQ, is there any insight on installing cnews on the 3b1?
If not, I might just write up exactly what I did.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: gk@kksys.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: AT&T 7300/3b1 goodies for sale
Reply-To: gk@kksys.com
Organization: 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:01:24 GMT

A few weeks ago I posted regarding several AT&T 7300-related items that I
have to dispose of.  Although several of the items have sold, some of the
individuals who committed to purchasing selected pieces have backed out of
the transactions or have not responded to repeated efforts to contact them
via email.

I have updated the list, deleting the sold items, adding some additional
items I had forgotten I had, and lowering the price on a couple of the items.

The revised version of the message follows:

You have all probably heard the old saying "he who dies with the most toys
wins".  Well, although I am not planning on entering that competition for
quite some time, I find myself in the embarrasing position of being a strong
contender (accumulation-wise) for the title.

In an effort to level the playing field a bit, I have decided to dispose of
my AT&T 7300 system, and related items.

Since I am sure most interested parties are aware of the specifications of
the 7300, I will dispense with the enumeration of the long list of standard
features of this classic system.

What I have to dispose of is the following:

AT&T 7300 with 2mb ram on the motherboard, 20mb hard drive, foundation
software set (4 books plus disks and quick reference cards), owners manual,
users/programmers guide, system admin manual, communications management user
guide.  The UNIX foundation set is installed and operating.
								$ 250

DOS-73 board                                                    $ 125

Dbase III software (manual + disks)                             $  50

GSS-Chart (manual + disks)                                      $  25

MS-WORD word processing (manual + disks)                        $  50

AT&T Starlan cards for PC/AT systems (boards only, no software) $  25
		      (two available)

I would be willing to sell the entire set for $450, and will adjust the
package price based on the value of any unsold items, should some of the
listed items be sold prior to sale of the remaining pieces.

Buyer pays shipping costs.  I will ship via UPS ground, either prepaid or
COD, and can arrange to accept payment via VISA or MasterCard if this would
be more convenient.
-- 
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Internet: gk@kksys.com  / Voice: +1 612 475 1527 / Fax: +1 612 449 0488
Alternate Internet: gk@kksys.mn.org   /   ICBM:  44 59 20 N, 93 28 22 W
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrest Aldrich)
Subject: Voice_power editor... flakey
Organization: Vision Graphics
			  Dover, NH
			  USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:11:35 GMT

Has anyone else noticed that the 2.1 Voice-Power editor is a bit flakey...?
In particular, the scroll-bar is no longer consistent with what's being 
played... if you follow it with the mouse pointer, you're sure to cut out
stuff you don't want to...  The older one seemed to be more in sync... has
anyone else noted this?

Who coded this?

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From: toddwall@rock.concert.net (R. Todd Wall -- Catholic Diocese of Raleigh -- Computer Services)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Combo Board info needed
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:38:25 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX


	Who knows what the jumper settings are for a Combo board w/ 1.5 megs
of ram connected to a 3b1 w/ a 1 meg. motherboard???



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From: dave@galaxia.network23.com (David H. Brierley)
Subject: Re: osu-cis archive question
Organization: Dave's Very Own Personal System
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:35:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.212612.6193@dxis.att.com> k2ph@dxis.att.com (Bob Schreibmaier) writes:
>
>Is there any way to get anonymous UUCP access to osu-cis
>at Telebit PEP speeds?  I know there used to be a Telebit
>access number, but then it went away.

OSU does not, to the best of my knowledge, have a Telebit modem anymore.
They had one a long time ago but had a lot of problems with it.  All
access to OSU currently goes through some sort of a terminal switch, with
access at 2400 or 9600 (V.32).

However, I have a fairly complete copy of the archive contents except for
the stuff in the csvax directory and I have a Telebit WorldBlazer connected
to my machine.  I don't normally keep the archives on-line due to lack of
disk space but if you send me e-mail letting me know what you want I can
arrange for it to be on-line when you call.  I have my machine listed as
one of the archive sites for comp.sources.3b1 but it doesn't explicitly
state that I have all of the rest of the stuff as well.
-- 
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Send comp.sources.3b1 submissions to comp-sources-3b1@galaxia.network23.com
%% Can I be excused, my brain is full. **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: jwstok01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Harddrive installation info request
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:19:21 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Ok, I've acquired a 40Mb 3&1/2" Harddrive that I intend to install in my 3b1. 
I've got the hardware notes from the OSU archives so I feel relatively
confident about installing it.  I want to know if there is any EASY way to
preserve all the stuff on my old harddrive (it's a 20Mb original that has abou
t 10%  free).  About 50% of the stuff I have is installable so it's not much of
a problem.  BUT the other half consists of various types of almost anything
I've collected and I would rather not have to copy 8Mb of stuff to floppy and
then back to the HD.  If anyone can think of a realitevly easy way to copy the
stuff back & forth (maybe some combination of cpio commands) or a way to mount
either HD (so that I could access them both) I would greatly appreciative. 
Espially if I could just put one in a box and use both.  
	I have only the 5.25 drive and no other comaptable file system (ie a
3b2 or annother 3b1 althought the latter is a possibility).  
	Finally any advice other than what's in the HD notes would be greatly
appreciated as well
==============> PLEASE REPLY TO ONE OF THE BELOW ADDRESSES!  ANYONE INTERESTED
IN THE INOFRMATION I RECEIVE ON THIS NOTIFY ME AND I'LL SEND YOU A COMPIAIATION
OF IT.  
		-Thanks in advance
		-John
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From: jwstok01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: P5.1 ungrade wanted!!!!!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:42:00 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Just wondering if anyone knows where I can get the  seemingly essential P5.1
upgrade?  If anyone has it and wants to sell, send me a price!

                         -John


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