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From: sp@vino.in-berlin.de (Stefan Pommerening)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: How must I configure Windows 3.0 for Waffle?
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 22:42:44 MET
Distribution: de
Organization: IG Computer & Communication

HI!

I'm running a Waffle BBS under Microsoft Windows 3.0 but I have some problems.
How must I configure the PIF-File for Waffle?

Please write mail - I don't read this group too often. Thanks in advance!

Stefan.


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From: markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle,sdnet.general
Subject: Re: Local Waffle Systems
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:05:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: sound.7Na0iB2w164w
Organization: sound.cts.com, +1 619 469 3415

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
> I am running Waffle V1.65 (beta 7) currently, having just moved
> up from V1.64 this past week.  Hardware is a 386-33 4Meg, 250 Meg
> PC clone running DR-DOS V6.0.  This beta release is running
> nicely here.        --Mike

Well, I am still running 1.64 over here on a lantastic network with 2
286s and 1 386. Had it up for a year, and it runs great. Can hardly wait
to see 1.65 and Crome.

And as a praticing CPA, will be very happy to see April 15  come and go.

Mark


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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: [XENIX] No Such User - still cannot alias mail to self!
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 17:38:37 PDT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad
Keywords: alias

grettir%pension@uunet.uu.net (Grettir Asmundarson) writes:

> One last thought: If the interface is the thing, wouldn't it make more 
> sense to spend your time and energy convincing the makers of [insert 
> your favorite BBS package here] to add UUCP capabilities to their 
> existing product, rather than asking Tom* to rewrite everything he's 
> done.

This is already happening.  MSI has plans to include RFC822 compliance
in the next version of Wildcat! BBS.  Two uucp gateways exist for PCBoard -
one is used by Execnet and CRS (expensive!), and the other is about to
get an alt.bbs.* group:  uuPCB.  I bought uuPCB, and as soon as I get
PCBoard set up (in spite of the hype, it's just as difficult to get
running as Waffle - at least for 1200+ newsgroups it is), The Batchelor
Pad will be offering all the familiar bells and whistles: color ANSI menus,
excellent file section, and the QMail QWK door.

There's about 50 systems using uuPCB at last count.  It uses Waffle's
uucico and any version of compress to get news/mail in/out.  I intend
to run Waffle on a private Trailblazer node, so it will act as the
news server for PCBoard.


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From: gordon@pinetree.org (Gordon Dewis)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MAIL FOLDERS under 1.65b7
Keywords: WAFFLE MAIL FOLDER 1.65 BETA
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 14:16:31 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

system@hale.cts.com (System Administration) writes:

> 
>  
> Here's one for your smart types.
>  
> How do you get to the mail submenu when you have no mail waiting, other 
> than mailing yourself?
>  
> I didn't fine anything about this in the docs.

Why would you want to do this?

  --G

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: [XENIX] No Such User - still cannot alias mail to self!
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 01:49:17 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island
Keywords: alias

In article <0DyViB2w164w@pension.uucp> grettir%pension@uunet.uu.net (Grettir Asmundarson) writes:

>When debating Waffle's interface, I hear the same topics that are often
>discussed in the never-ending DOS/Windows debate.  Speed, power,
>flexibility, cosmetics, ease of use, user-friendliness.  Which are the
>most important?  Well, that all depends on who you talk to.  But, just
>as you can't fault DOS for not being Windows (it was never _meant_ to be
>Windows!), I really don't think it's fair to fault Waffle for not being
>GAP/PCBoard/Opus/RA/QBBS/name-your-fancy-ANSI-interface-BBS.

Having the ability to turn menus on or off isn't quite the same as
matching Maximus point for point - I'm not FAULTing it, either - hell,
I paid for it, and will pay for it again in due course, if need be -
it's a powerful piece of work - but that doesn't mean I won't continue
to express my hope for some smooothing of some rough edges :-)

>get off again as fast as they can.  But the two different BBS packages 
>appeal to two very different audiences.  I knew this going into it, and 
>I've never been sorry that I made the switch.

I'm not sorry either - I shut my dos (Max.) system down about 2 years
ago, and use the old 286 as a fax machine now. But cosmetics are
important if you want to bring new folks into the net, and I want to
do just that, so I will keep talking about them.

>One last thought: If the interface is the thing, wouldn't it make more 
>sense to spend your time and energy convincing the makers of [insert 
>your favorite BBS package here] to add UUCP capabilities to their 
>existing product, rather than asking Tom* to rewrite everything he's 
>done.

First, I've taken whatever pokes I could at the Maximus crowd,
although i don't have any easy way of talking to them anymore - I also
paid for my Max, you see, since it was put into commercial service...
if and when they get around to it, I'll send 'em more money and
install it toot sweet.

As to Tom re-writing all of this, I don't think he has to do anything
- I keep hoping some of the other talent out there will write a new
file section with hooks, so Mr. Dell won't have to do anything. If and
when that happens, and I see some friendly product, I will send the
authors of the add-ons some money too - I don't mind paying for the
work, as long as it improves the system, and I don't much care who
does it, as long as it works.

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From: scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle,sdnet.general
Subject: Re: Local Waffle Systems
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:44:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ryptyde.1992Apr14.134415.27173
Organization: Ryptyde TimeSharing, San Diego, CA

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:

>Anyone in the Sandy Eggo area running Waffle (DOS or UNIX)?
>Curious who else is out here locally is using the same BBS/UUCP
>software.

Yes.  The public access systems are:

hale.cts.com     (619) 660-6734 (San Diego's first Waffle/DOS system)
arghouse.uucp    (619) 563-1084 (Waffle/DOS)
ziggys.cts.com   (619) 262-6384 (Multi-node Waffle/DOS system)
fat.cts.com      (619) 268-9275 (New Waffle/DOS system)
netlink.cts.com  (619) 435-6181 (San Diego's only Waffle/Unix system.)

>I know of 4 or 5 systems just from reading the news but would
>like to find more.  Interested in trading tips, UUCP accounts,
>etc.  Is everyone using Crash Time Share as host?

(Assuming you mean a smart host for mail routing) 
No, only the DOS systems.  

>Mike Shirley, WB6WUI          INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com
>PO Box 460  (San Diego)       UUCP:  {hplabs!hp-sdd nosc}!crash!slic!mikey
>Lakeside, CA 92040-0460       GEnie: SLIC

Scott


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From: root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: mail to non-waffle users under xenix
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:31:13 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

In article <1992Apr11.225148.10654@ryptyde.cts.com> scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure) writes:
>root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:
>
>>I've seen people diable the mail system of waffle (*nix) and then run elm as
>>an external. By doing this, all mail bypasses the restrictions imposed by
>>waffle itself. Of course, it takes some twiddling to accomplish...
>
>But then you have the problem of having to find another editor besides vi
>to work with elm.  You can't use vi, because they can read-in your waffle
>password file, as well as /etc/passwd.
>Not a good thing.
>

There are a lot of editors available for unix systems that are easier on
users than vi... (although I'm a vi freak myself). Every unix system I've
seen has allowed users to look at the password file --no user-servicable 
parts inside... :-) If the mode makes a file read-only for the public, 
yes, they can load it, they can edit it, but they can't save it. So it
doesn't really matter.

However, if you wanted to be a real go-getter, judicious use of the 
permissions, proper setting of the shell, and a number of other little
goodies can more than frustrate the would be twit-user. If that weren't
the case, there wouldn't be too much point in public *nix sites. :-)

-- 
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Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA       tonight."                       --ars
From: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Root Account)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can Waffle be used as an email hub?
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:20:22 GMT
Organization: COW Pastures

jimmy_t@verifone.com writes:

> Can I use Waffle  as a store and forward hub for mail? i.e. lots of
> PC's running UUPC (or other UUCP implementations) calling into
> a central PC running Waffle to retrieve or leave messages?
> 
> If not, any suggestions on what can do this?

        Waffle is very able to do this.  I am currently the mail hub for 
the waffle.atl.ga.us domain park and move megs of mail and news to 
several sites and future sites in town.  You just have to add them to 
your systems file.

Charles Stephens, SysOp, COW Pastures BBS, +1 404 421 0764
cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us or cfs@waffle.atl.ga.us
From: jlaiho@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: mail to non-waffle users under xenix
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:28:35 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Apr11.225148.10654@ryptyde.cts.com>, scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure) writes:
> root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:
> 
>>I've seen people diable the mail system of waffle (*nix) and then run elm as
>>an external.
> 
> But then you have the problem of having to find another editor besides vi
> to work with elm.  You can't use vi, because they can read-in your waffle
> password file, as well as /etc/passwd.

How about uEmacs in restricted mode? Seems to be good enough at least on
my system.

.Juha
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle Add-Ons (was Re: [XENIX] No Such User )
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 11:52:09 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

andyb@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Andy Brager) writes:

> There are no "hooks" in Waffle for a new file section.

Waffle has the ultimate hook for anything you desire... right in the
static file.

disable : files

Then write your own and call it as an external.

> There would be no "external" file
> section.  I mean it could be rewritten that way, but that's up to Tom
> I suppose.

No, that's up to you, if you want to replace the files section.
certainly, anything can be accomplished with a source mod... but a great
many things can also be done simply with the configurability Waffle
already has.
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From: steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Minor bug displaying/entering _Subject:_ line
Keywords: 1.64 waffle bug error problem display Subject
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:40:11 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Presoft Architects (Novell Developer)

root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

> In article <2Rw4iB1w164w@presoft.com> steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger) 
> >Minor bug in 1.64 to report.  I can't enter more than 80 chars in a
> >_Subject:_ line.  Also, when I receive a Usenet message, it truncates
> >the _Subject:_ line to the first 80 chars.  I only noticed it because
> >a very long subject line was chopped in a strange place.  Thought you
> >should be aware.
> 
> Not a bug. It's a 'feature.' :-)
> 
> Why in the world would anybody want a subject line > 80 chars anyway? 
> Wouldn't it be simpler just to put the message IN the mail instead of
> on the subject line?
> 

OK. OK. I've been getting razzed on this one.  The subject line is
gone but is was a Re: chain.  It looked something like this...

_Subject: Re: The tomato that ate Montanna (was Re: Waffle up all night) (
was Re: Not enough syrup for my Waffles) (was Re: Exotic fish)

   or some such yecch.

I didn't need the entire subject line.  It just kinda left ya
hangin....

Steve

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From: dell@west.darkside.com (Thomas E Dell)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: [XENIX] No Such User - still cannot alias mail to self!
Keywords: alias
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:46:25 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

> users in areas like this one even know the areas EXIST, let alone
> their more than a little cryptic names. - the JOIN function confuses
> the hell out of the users I've watched here over the past two years -
> I have perhaps FOUR users, out of hundreds who have come and gone, who
> actually configured a JOIN file and use the NEW command at login. The
> rest simply gave up and don't call anymore.... and that bothers me,
> given the time and energy I've spent laying the system out for them,
> and the raw power Waffle gives those who are willing to sweat to
> discover it... hell, I even post user.doc as EVERY user's first mail

Out of about 2500 accounts here, there are 500 with join files.
(Many of the remaining 2000 are either one time callers that haven't
been purged, people who use E-Mail only, or people who call to
download wafxxx.zip, or whatnot..) That's about a 25% 'success' ratio.
Your mileage may vary, depending on the local gene pool.

Seriously, if all your users are used to one type of system popular
in your area, say PCBoard or Maximus or MajorBBS or Citadel, that's a
skill that doesn't necessarily transfer to other areas where different
BBS programs are popular. Citadel is an extreme example: if we turned
Waffle into a Citadel interface, it might become more popular in areas
that run Citadel. But certainly not elsewhere.

...Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Fredmail--where is latest version?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 11:31:08 +1000
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz> writes:

> I have Fredmail 1.8e beta.  Fred-fu (Fido -> Usenet) seems to hang when
> converting some packets.  Is there a later version available?  Where?

Version 1.9j is the latest public beta release. It is now maintained
by michael butler, who can be contacted at imb@csource.oz.au (or
3:712/515@fidonet).  It has been improved quite a lot since the 1.8e
days.

Regards,

    david

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From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Compressing mail?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 14:20:15 PST
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

tracy@sal.lonestar.org (Tracy Harton) writes:

>  I've got a question I've been thinking about for a while... Would it be
>  possible to compress outgoing mail via UUCP?  Since you can compress
>  newsgroups, why not mail?

   There isn't any reason that we _shouldn't_ be able to do compressed mail
as well as news. However, you have to have a host that is capable and
willing to do this for you in both directions.

   I wanted to do this with my former Internet Forwarder, but they were
unwilling to install and run the necessary software to do it. This is even
though others besides myself have requested this capability in order to
lower our connection costs. I can see where it wouldn't serve the providers
best interest to do batching of mail because it would tend to lower their
income, but they could always make it up in volume or depend more on other
services they provide.

>  Can you just modify the .XQT file to have it
>  uncompress before processing on the other end?

   I don't think it's quite this simple unfortunately and requires special
software on both ends (or modifications to same) to make it work.

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle+X00 vs 486/50
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 10:57:31 PDT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

zatar@dadstoy.uucp (Terry Stockdale) writes:

> I'm at the last stages of purchasing either a 486/33 or a 486/50.  One of 
> the major uses of the system will be running Waffle under DOS5 (or DRDOS6), 
> along with the X00 FOSSIL.  I do have a NS16550AFN on a board I'll transfer 
> to the new machine.
> 
> Does anyone know of any problems with Waffle/DOS or X00 with such a fast 
> machine?

You may be able to dispense with the FOSSIL.  I run Waffle at V.32
speeds on my 486-33, in a DESQview window, and do not use a FOSSIL.  I
used to, but removing it did nothing to performance, except for giving
me bigger DV windows.



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[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Welche Newsreader
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 21:15:25 EDT
Organization: Berry Communications

freitag@elrond.toppoint.de (Claus Schoenleber) writes:

> joy@satorio.han.sub.org (Michael Bock) writes:
> 
> > was fuer Newsreader gibt es den fuer Waffle?
> > 
> > Und von wo bekomme ich die ?
> 
> Means:
> 
> what newsreaders are there for Waffle?
> 
> And where can I get them from?

But Waffle *is* a newsreader.  So I don't understand the question.


Pat Berry                    pat@berry.Cary.NC.US
From: otto@palikka.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle & result codes
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:10:03 GMT
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company

In article <8qewiB1w164w@batpad.lgb.CA.US> mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor) writes:
   Waffle 1.64 currently doesn't recognize result codes like
   CONNECT 14400 or CONNECT 12000.  I had to add an S27=128 to the init
   string to disable result codes greater than 9600, else Waffle thinks
   V.32bis logins are at 300 baud.

It's there in 1.65 beta8.  Should be OK for USRobotics, anyone say for others?
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle & result codes
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 23:05:06 PDT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Tom -

Sugestion for 1.65 if you haven't already done this:
Waffle 1.64 currently doesn't recognize result codes like
CONNECT 14400 or CONNECT 12000.  I had to add an S27=128 to the init
string to disable result codes greater than 9600, else Waffle thinks
V.32bis logins are at 300 baud.




[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
From: rc@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Richard Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Faxmodems and Waffle
Keywords: FAX Waffle
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:08:32 GMT

steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger) writes:

> With this information we could record dial in speeds, link to FAX
> gateways, disconnect on too slow connections, and build terminal
> servers and special links to things like SLIP links and PPP.  How
> bout it folks? Anyone want to support dial in TCP/IP Internet?  Of
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> course we would need the capability to return to Waffle when we
> decide the call is not for us...then email or BBS as usual.

Is that really a realistic possibility?  When I see all those
goodies that are available via anonymous ftp I feel like an urchin
watching the rich folks partying through a plate glass window.  If
there was dial in TCP/IP wouldn't that include ftp? I gather from
what I've read that the ftp protocol is similar to Kermit.

> > |There was very little interest when I asked about a fax gateway for
> > |waffle, late last year. Is there more now ?
> 
> Absolutely!

Everybody says that technically fax is really silly and
retrograde, but it seems to be catching on in the business world.
But I haven't seen anything in the scientific or academic or
technical communities built around fax.  (I'm following the
discussion about fax because I'm trying to decide if the next
modem I buy will be a high speed data modem or a combo data and
fax.  I suppose that in a year or so, when I get really tired of
my 2400 baud non-MNP clunker it'll be clear just how necessary it
is to have fax capability.)

Btw, the capability in Waffle I'd like to see even more than
enhanced Internet functionality or fax enablement it a way to
address posts directly to BITNET without going through an Internet
gateway.  I wonder how difficult that would be to do.

--
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