From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: CYBERHISTORY         
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 06:47:17 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Warning: MAJOR "TOMB OF THE CYBERMEN" SPOILERS AHEAD!!

rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael "The Cyberleader" Quintero) writes:

- DSY (the Mad Yodeler of Charing Cross and all points west) sez:

Hey, mate.  I am from Coulsdon, Surrey and all points South!!

- Of course it does, Dave.  It is CLEARLY STATED in "Attack" that THE CYBERMEN
- HAVE NO GRASP OF TIME TRAVEL!  THEY HAD TO *STEAL* A TIME SHIP, DAVE!
- Therefore, our version of the continuum will be the same as ours.  (Sorry
- for shouting, just don't know what came over me..... :-)

  It could have possibly been stolen, for all we know!  BTW get your keyboard
checked!! 8-)


-
- >  Mike, if you see Earthshock, part 4, the Doctor and the Cyberleader are re
- >  to the war in which the Cybermen would be badly outnumbered.  If it is the
- >  that Voga was a new moon of Jupiter in 2526, it would have been known.
- Voga, as stated in "Revenge", had only been in orbit around Jupiter for a
- short while at that point.  By 2526, it would have been old hat.
-
- My own, rather cynical theory is that after the Cyberman attack, the humans
- which knew about Voga told Earth government.  Earth government loots and
- destroys Voga... fortunately for the Cybermen.  It IS possible
- that the Cybermen just MIGHT have been outnumbered in two Cyberwars, Dave.
- Anyway, the CyberLeader only said that "the forces would have been.. too
- great."  Not, "the forces were too great".
-
  Hmm! But on such short notice?

- >  Also, addressing Iain point on Tomb, 2 references are made in Tomb : The C
- >  reference of knowing the Doctor from there Attack on the Moonbase, and the
- >  refers to the Tombs as being 500 years in service.
- I've seen Tomb two or three times (I've got an excellent NTSC conversion of
- it) and it only states that the Cybermen have been asleep for 500 years by
- Klieg.  Now, one would think that Earth's government would try to cover up an
- attacks by the Cybermen if at all possible.  So... perhaps Klieg was counting
- from 1986 AD, the MONDASian attack, placing it at circa 2486 AD.  Sorry to
- spoil your mutating of lost stories... it almost proved your point.
-
  Watch Tomb Again!! The Cyberleader makes mention of knowing the Doctor from
"The Moonbase" which is 2070!

- >  Also, for everyone, and sorry to spoil this, the Cybercontroller was fried
- >  Tomb, but was active in Attack.  Most baffling.
-
- Attack: Dr.: But he (Cybercontroller) was killed in the Tombs.
-       Cyberleader: Merely damaged... Doctor.
-
- Pay attention, please.

  Not only were the doors to be electrified, but also the control panel as
well.
-
- >> Theory about Silver Nemesis/Attack connection deleted.
- > Just a note of logic: Attack vis-a-vis the Cybermen is post-Tomb.
- Yes, HALF of it is.  The OTHER half is based on 1985 AD Earth courtesy of
- the timeship they stole....  (How else are they going to relocate Halley's
- Comet?)
-
- Mike " The Cyberleader" Quintero ( rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us )
- ___
-  * MR/2 1.04 NR * Windows?  WINDOWS?!?  Hahahahahehehehehohohoho...
-


Dave Shariff Yadallee
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