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From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: (mis) COMMUNICATION on SCI
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Summary: (mis) Communication on SCI
Keywords: (mis) communication on sci
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 01:28:08 GMT

Terms used to impress others on the net.
Terms used in order to show our intellectual superiority. 
Terms used to win a debate based on rhetoric if there is no
substance.
Terms used to (mis)communicate on SCI.
Terms that have always been part of our vocabulary;)

This article is to help those (the proletariat of rhetoric) on
the net who probably have as many problems as I do in
interpreting some the intended messages.I am also doing the
'eloquent' writers a favour by striving towards giving common
definitions which can be understood and interpreted by all. Just
being a philanthropist. 

Here is a far from comprehensive dictionary for my fellow
strugglers. 

No particular order

Astute= shrewd
Prehensile= grasping, laying hold
Philander= to make love sentimentally to a lady
Prostration= to bow in reverence, great depression of strength
or spirit

Vicarious= deputed, substitute
Empathise= Couldn't find the meaning in my Australian Dict.- Has
to do with getting into the subject to understand it?
Atavism= resemblance of offspring to a remote ancestor
Philanthropist=one who exerts him/herself in doing good to his
fellow people

Liberal= Still being defined on SCI?
Conservative=Still being defined on SCI?
Pedantry= vain display of ones learning
Insidious= treacherous
Pelagian= one who denies original sin
Sanguine= confident, full of blood
Meandering= to wind about, to be intricate
Mitigated= made soft or mild, lessen
Warped= perverted, twisted
Nexus= connection
Omniscient= knowledge of all
Magnanimity= greatness of soul or mind
Nomomaniacal= Couldn't find the meaning in my Australian Dict.
(need help here- single minded maniac probably?)

So how are we doing in our first subtle communications lesson?

"The greatest burden in life is having potential and being a
philanthropist"

John Ainikkal
from
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Logo for DOS
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:15:57 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

Hello: Does anyone out there know whether the "Logo" software
program (for children) is available for the DOS operating
system. I'd be particularly interested in any Public-domain
versions. Thanks. - Ganes
h
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Aditi, Arindam and me.
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:22:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


Arindam says:

> Some people's logic say: economic progress is the only hope. Some people's
> logic say scientific progress is the only hope. Some say spiritual progress
> is the only hope. Some people carry the logic a little bit further and say
> all three taken alone is necessary but not sufficient. They have to go hand in
> hand. Each of the individual groups shout: Go away you impractical illogical
> irrational fool.


	... and none is willing to give up his belief [of being totally
	    rational]. 
	
	    Well said!
	
	    Thanks.
	
	
---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: sksg3463@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Suvrat K. Singh)
Subject: Air ticket to Newark (new Jersey) for sale.
Summary: air ticket for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:51:10 GMT
Keywords: air ticket

Hi friends,
	I have a one way ticket from Chicago to Newark (New JERSEY) by    
	United air lines. The expiring date of the ticket is 20th of      
	August and the cost of the ticket is $65 only. If interested
	please call me at (217) 344 1403 before 8.30am or after 10.30pm 


	Thanks
	Singh
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: King Cobra/ Jay Bhartkumar Patel, where are you ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:57:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 King Cobra,

  What's up ? Haven't heard from you for a long time. Can you access the SCI ?

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nakkala@cs.tamu.edu (Venkatesh Nakkala)
Subject: Help...any experiences with FAR CORNERS TRAVEL Ag. L. A ?....
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:17:07 GMT



   Howdy,

       Does any one out there have any experiences with FAR CORNERS
       TRAVEL AGENCY, L.A. regarding booking a ticket to India.

       The lady I've been talking to has been very courteous and 
       helpful and she's booked a ticket for me by Singapore Airlines.
       (starting Dec. 17th). The prices quoted by travel
       agents for this Dec. seem to be quite high.

       Also is it okay if I send her a cheque for the ticket amount
       and then wait for her to send me the ticket. Our tickets
       have already been confirmed.

       P.S. I'll be glad if anyone who'se got a good deal for this Dec.
       (from Houston to Madras) could email me the details.

       Thanks in advance,

       Venkatesh Nakkala.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
		     Venkatesh  Nakkala    nakkala@neuron.tamu.edu 
 Off : (409)845-5469                       Res : (409)268-7404
 Dept. Of Comp Sci.,Texas A & M Univ. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:25734 soc.culture.jewish:12807
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Attitudes to sex!! Joyti Basu and Dr.Ruth Westheimer
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:01:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <pateldi.712424863@uther>, pateldi@uther.calvin.edu (Dinesh Patel) 
writes...
>....... (SUNNY evaluation of men and women deleted) ..... 

 I have a question:

 Is sex important in a relationship ? If not, then how many marriages failed
 because of sexual dissatisfaction ?

 My hunch: Regarding the first part, Dr.Ruth Westheimer or Joyti Basu maybe
           able to answer the question. I also think that this is the only
           case where the Marxist approach to sex may agree with the 
           `capitalist' strictures of Dr.Ruth. (BTW, does anyone know about 
           the sexual urge of RSS(*) guys ? We all know that they can be good 
           rapists, but, nothing more than that !!!)

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)

P.S: RSS(*) RED SHIRT SYNDROME !!!!!!!!
From: pateldi@uther.calvin.edu (Dinesh Patel)
Subject: Attitudes to sex!!
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:47:43 GMT

Some interesting figures which I found in a old issue of 
SUN (Indian- probably publishing from Delhi) # April 1988 about 
sex:

		What men believe	What women actually
		women admire		admire

Tallness	13 %			5  %
Eyes		4  %			11 %
Muscular 	21 %			1  %
Chest/shoulders   
Muscular arms	18 %			0  %
Slimness	7  %			15 %
Large penis	15 %			2  %
Buttocks	4  %			39 %
others 		18 %			27 %

Which part of body do Men/Women find most attractive in members of the 
opposite sex(among five parts of body):

	 Mens part	     Womens part 
Face	   55 %			32 %
Hair	   8  %			5  %
Chest	   6  %	   	   Bust	18 %
Shoulders  7  % 	Bottoms 4  %
Hands 	   4  %    	   Legs 24 %

( The face in both sexes attracts the most attention )

Qualities which men/women thought were most most important in opposite
sex:

  Men				Women
1. Achievement			Physical attractiveness
2. Leadership 			Erotic Ability
3. Occupational ability 	Affectional ability
4. Economic ability		Social ability
5. Entertaining ability		Domestic ability
6. Intellectual ability		Satorial ability
7. Observational ability	Interpersonal understanding
8. Commonsense			Art appreciation
9. Athletic ability		Moral-spiritual understanding
10. Theoretical ability		Art Creative ability

--
(From pateldi@uther.calvin.edu)
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: West Bengal: Communists out, ? in
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:12:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul23.195804.4503@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes...
>>I wish you all the best! -- Aditi   
>With love
>Arindam

 Arindam, if you go back, what are u' going to do ? I see that:

 # 1. CPI(M) will be very anxious because you are a Bahai which Marx did not
      define, and, thus will be after your ass all the time. They might think
      that you are something `edible' - and may want to eat you !!!

 # 2. After getting married, if you do, and live in Calcutta, then CPI(M) will
      run after both of you - you know why, right ???

 # 3. Life everywhere is like a cog in the wheel. The grass on the other side
      always looks greener. I am not saying that U.S has the greatest democracy
      in the world. NO American will be offended, I hope !!!!! But, from a
      practical point of view, you must remain alive (mentally/ physically) and
      then you will be able to do the day-dreaming which you do.

 # 4. Suppossing you want to change faith to Hindu/ Moslem or etc. Now there is
      a law that the district magistrate will have to be notified 3 months 
      before and then he will, in presence of a priest change your faith. The
      trouble is that if you within 3 months decide to change your mind, then
      the court may accuse you of felony and throw you in jail. In U.S it is not
      a problem to change faiths. I can predict that you will after 3 years will
      change faith from a Bahai to a Hindu !!!!!  

 # 5. There are no Bahai temples in Calcutta. The only one I know is in Delhi.
      Will you go from Calcutta to Delhi every week ???/

 # 6. A SERIOUS word of advice: If you cannot find  a job in Calcutta and must
      move to Bombay or Bangalore to survive, it is basically `tough shit' for
      you. There will be some kind of cultural alienation  and you cannot go to
      visit your parents at their old age in Calcutta because of (a) your work,
      (b) your family and (c) traveling from U.S to Calcutta is easier than from
      Bombay/ Bangalore. Believe me, I have worked outside home for 3 and 1/2
      years. Remember: Money talks.

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
From: vedati@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Keshavprasad Vedati  ECE-GRAD)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sholay was original...not!
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:51:38 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens

In article <1992Jul30.023758.24289@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>To Sthan, Nath, Sumitro, and all the rest of you who staunchly defend the 
>so-called genuine nature of this obvious imitation:  Get a clue.
>Before you give me the patriotic rhetoric of the Indian bandits, of Hindi
>movies, and of how Shakespeare was actually from Bombay, go rent "The
>Magnificient Seven," or "The Seven Samurai."  Since all of you have seen
>"Sholay" 20 or 30 times each on video, I assume you have VCRs 
>Some of you have jumped on the Columbus-bashing, anti-Western bandwagon by 
>citing Native-killing in the one or two movies you saw a brief portion of
>while you were lying on the couch, flipping through the channels, and doing
>your Eastern blots for garam masala.  You may be shocked when you don't
>see the US cavalry in this movie.  You may also be disappointed when, in the
>heat of a gun battle, Yul Brenner does NOT stop shooting and start lip-
>synching to Kishore Kumar's voice.  Nevertheless you will soon understand, if
>you are capable, the movies from which "Sholay" was Xeroxed.  
>
>Most of you bypassed the citation of "Satanic Verses," wherein Rushdie
>writes that all Hindi-movie actors are obligated to do a remake of "The Mag. 7."FYI, you are allowed to own that book in the US.  
>
>Now go do some of the background research before instinctively hitting
>shift-F and soiling the screen with your groundless (and mindless) responses.
>
>Ed

Mr Ed,
      Can't you put across your point in a much more pleasant fashion. Please
be considerate to the readers on the net. For your information, I did hit
Shift-f .
          With Regards
         Vedati
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: cosc177y@jane.uh.edu (92H02966)
Subject: testttt
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:44:00 GMT

testing only , sorry!
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Sholay was original...not!
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:45:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.023758.24289@news2.cis.umn.edu>, crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>To Sthan, Nath, Sumitro, and all the rest of you who staunchly defend the 
>so-called genuine nature of this obvious imitation:  Get a clue.
>Before you give me the patriotic rhetoric of the Indian bandits, of Hindi
>movies, and of how Shakespeare was actually from Bombay, go rent "The
>Magnificient Seven," or "The Seven Samurai."  Since all of you have seen

All of us have seen those two movies also. Romeo and Juliet was a copy of
Laila and Majnu--not? Of course you will not have a clue what Laila and
Majnu is all about. Go read some Arabic history.

>heat of a gun battle, Yul Brenner does NOT stop shooting and start lip-
>synching to Kishore Kumar's voice.  Nevertheless you will soon understand, if
>you are capable, the movies from which "Sholay" was Xeroxed.  
Ah ha that's what makes it original and not a copy. If you knew what
traditional Indian drama was- What does Nautanki mean- you would have
understood. Of course your aim in life is to belittle everything Indian--
go get a life.


In spite of being a fanatic art film lover and commercial film hater I must
say Sholay had a magic of its own. As Satyajit Ray said in "Our films their
films": I cannot think of making a movie with eight songs but I got to give
credit to the people who can take the finest movement of a Beethoven symphony,
incorporate it in a two minute song and make it available to all.
Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: joydeep@iti.gov.sg (Joydeep Bose)
Subject: Death of a terror! 
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:30:42 GMT



Hi guys
Amjad Khan , the great of the greatest actors of hindi cinema has died last 
night of heart attack. 

--- May his soul rest in peace!!!!!

---
From: ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: REPOST: Appeal
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:28:28 GMT
Organization: Heinz School, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I am posting this on behalf of a friend.  He is a serving IAS officer of
the Karnataka cadre, who is finishing training in the US at CMU.  He can
be contacted by email at sk4x+@andrew.cmu.edu.

---------- Forwarded message begins here ----------

I worked in Dharwar as Chief Secretary of Dharwar Zilla Prishad from
1987 to 1990. Now, two charitable organizations based at Dharwar have
approached me to collect funds to support and further their activities.
They are as follows:
1. Centre for Rehabilitation of Mental Patients, Dharwar; and
2. The Burns Association of India, Dharwar Chapter.
I have the brochure/appeal letter of these institutions with me. I
request you to help me in this task. Cheques can be either mailed to
these institutions directly, handed over to me, to carry to India where
I return by end-August/begin-Sept., 1992. The latter process would save
on postage, but take more time.
The mailing addresses would be as follows:
1. Dr. M.G.Panchaksharappa,
    Secretary, CROMP
    Kalyan Nagar, Dharwar 580 007, Karnataka, India.
2. Dr. Y.N.Irkal,
    Chairman, Burns Assco. of India (Dharwar)
    Opp. Kalabhawan, Dharwar 580 008, Karnataka, India.
I shall be happy to provide further information and copy of the
brochure/appeal to any one interested.
Thank you.
Sudhir Krishna
_____________________________________

cheers
From: prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: US National Debt
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:23:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul23.152315.17283
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

(Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee) writes:
>
>Interested in the US National Debt?  - It's $3,993, 287,737, which
>means with a population of around 250 million, each US citizen would
>have to pay around $15,000 to pay off this debt.

This figure (missing three zeroes at the end) is not appropriate
for measuring indebtedness.

Take for example, a college student with a Visa card. His average
monthly (perhaps I should say 'Her monthly balance' to avoid
people jumping for my jugular ;-)) balance is, say, $150. Once
he graduates, finds a job and moves up to a Gold card the monthly
balance jumps up to, say, $500. Is this bad? Not necessarily!

The reasonable perspective is Deficit as a percentage of GDP
in comparison with the same statistic for other countries
in the same league! US is not as bad as it might look.

Satya Prabhakar (Angel's Advocate :-))
From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: CFV: alt.us.visas
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:20:13 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Jul20.152929.9771@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, vijay@efim.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) writes:
> How about creating a group called alt.us.visas.  By the addition of this
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
 
How about a group called alt.names.babies... ;-> 
 
o o
 |  ?
 =--U 
 
> group we could help folks mostly interested in visa information from any 
> country to get that information easily.  A FAQ will also be helpful. 
> This will moderate many of the soc groups.
> 
> Vijay Joglekar
> 
> **********************************************************************
>                Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
>  Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
>                       to do with where I work.
>             Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
> **********************************************************************
From: pkundu@mipos2.intel.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: roommate wanted
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: pkundu@mipos2.intel.com ()
Distribution: ba
Organization: Microprocessor Component Group, Intel Corp., Santa Clara, CA


PLEASE REPLY TO amit@maspar.com, NOT TO THIS ACCOUNT  !!

1 bedroom, 1 bathroom in 2-br, 2-ba. apartment.
Close to Sunnyvale-MountainView border. (El Camino- Bernardo
crossing)
RENT : $430  per month.
AVAILABLE : Ausgust 1, 1992
CONTACT : Amit at 415-964-7153(h), 408-733-0115x275(w),
amit@maspar.com
AMENITIES : Swimming Pool, Washer-Dryer, Spacious living room, very clean place
From: slsg6@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: information required H-1 visa
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:21:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hi,
I would appreciate some information on H-1 visa and the 
proper procedure for applying and receiving the H-1 visa.
Presently I have an F-1 visa and hope to do some practical
training shortly.
From: proy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Partha Roy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: West Bengal : Taking the Bull by the Horns
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:12:50 GMT
Organization: UB
Originator: proy@wilhelm.acsu.buffalo.edu




Okay guys, huddle around, I am going to throw some concepts at you.

I think the time for loose talk and fingerpointing is over.  We are not going
to concern ourselves so much with the past as with the future, for therein lies
the promise for a better tomorrow.  The lessons from the past have hopefully been learnt.  The consensus at this time should be change, change is good, change is needed, change we must or we will stagnate and perish.  Not only must we change, but this time we must make sure that we change for the better, get back on the right track and stay on it.

Our role in the change ?  To form an e-mail net, which will include all individuals who want to make a sincere effort to discuss (not fight) each problem posed, make contacts with helpful NRIs, write to appropriate people back home, help arrange for financing/technology transfer and a lot more.  Let me digress a little here to point out that we are not attempting to define ourselves apart from India/Indian culture, rather to focus our attention and energies to Bengals economic and political crisis.  Moreov









er, I believe there are people out there who will seriously commit themselves to solutions via e-mail not 'riff raffs on the net.'  The e-mail I think, will definitely help us to concentrate on solutions to Bengal's problems.

Let me assure you that this activity will not require too much of your time, maybe a few hours a month (at your own convenience and pace).  Whether you wish to remain in the USA or not is absolutely irrelevant.  Either way, you can make a significant contribution towards a better future for people back home.  

The rules of net dialog will be determined as we move along.  With my humble and limited knowledge of the average Bengali, I think the main obstacle to our progress will be EGO PROBLEMS.  Therefore, please put your ego aside and join us and we may yet achieve the unachievable.

No matter who you are, where you come from, what language you speak, if you want to join us you are always welcome.  Arindam, you are not weak, your faith has made you strong.  Aditi, concentrate on what you can do, not what you cannot do.
Venky, you have the right positive attitude.  Nilanjan, Shubendu and all the rest of you, let us put our heads together, I know we can do it. 

I see a long and difficult path ahead.  Why walk alone ?  Come, let us walk together.



Partha Roy.

Send your replies to :  proy@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: ramas@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (R. Ramasubramanian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Good schools for MS in EE dept
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:30:27 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)

Hi netters,

I am planning to do my MS in Power Systems, in the department of EE.
Can any of you provide me with a list of schools that can be rated as
good in the dept of EE. 

Also if you have any idea of the on-going projects in this department,
please mail me the names and phone numbers (or email addr) of such 
professors, so that I could get in touch with them for further info
about any assistantship.

Thank you for your kind co-operation.

Regards,

ram


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From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: CVF: alt.culture.maharashtra
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:54:05 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

How about creating a new group called alt.culture.maharashtra?
Everybody seems to be creating new groups.

**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Cermony.
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:59:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.820
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

murty@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTY Hema Sandhyarani) writes:
: 
: 	
: 	If the NBC commentator 

     (some stuff deleted)
: 	 - what was the guy's name?

Bob Castner. Yes, we Indians should demand an apology from
NBC and Bob. They should broadcast the same during primetime
Olympic telecast.

---Sreehari.
: 
: 	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian