From: locatech@tron.gun.de (Jrg Lhn)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: The text... (Aliens on Earth)
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 22:37:00 +0200

Now I send some information on aliens which I've received as a text-file from
an german BBS. I think that USENET ist the best way to publish it. In some
of your messages in ALIEN/VISITORS I saw that some facts are already known.
e.g. JFK was killed by the MJ-12. More about Kennedy in this file. I had
to divide it in 4 parts to post it...

PART1:

What follows is a transcript of a 45 minute lecture that I attended on
11-17-89 at the "Whole Life Expo." in Los Angeles, California. Speaking was
Mr. Milton William Cooper who I first became acquainted with through a text
file I downloaded from a local computer BBS.  The file dealt with the
subject of UFO's and our government's concealment of the truth about them in
such a way that it made a lasting impression on me, which is why I
attended his lecture; to learn more. Please forgive my probable misspelling
of some of the proper names in the transcript which follows and allow
that I have taken it as best I could, word-for-word, from a less than
acceptable micro-cassette recording.

If you are as moved by what you are about to read as I was in hearing it
first hand, I ask that you please spread it as far and wide as possible.
Upload it to every BBS in your reach and please, don't change anything.
Also, please give considerable thought to Mr. Cooper's suggestions as to what
we all can do to see that this information is confirmed by our
government to make them stop what they are up to.

  Thank you, and now, Milton Cooper:

"For those of you who don't know who   I am, I was raised in a military
family. My family, my ancestors, since they came to this country, have been
government people. We have served in the military, we have been patriots,
we have fought in all the wars, we care about this country and believe in
the constitution of the United States. We know, as many people don't know,
that the Constitution of the United States of America IS the United States
of America! And that's why we've always been ready ...to do the things
needed ...to preserve and protect it."

"When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic Air Command.
As a child I'd heard stories from my father and pilots, other pilots, my
father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters, UFO's, strange craft that
were not made on this Earth. And as a kid, you hear that in passing, and
it's neat, and you giggle about it, and you go out and play "Space Man",
and you forget it."

"When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated in alien
crashed-craft recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it interested me, but it
was usually after quite a few bottles of beer that these stories would come
out, and sometimes the next morning I couldn't remember what the heck the
guy said."

"When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is where
everything began to happen for me. I had originally intended to just go
from service to service and do something that very few people have
ever done before. I was a very adventurous, very crazy ...young man,
and I thought that that would be a pretty exciting life. I volunteered
for submarines, and while on the submarine U.S.S. Tyroot, SS-416, on a
transit between the Portland/Seattle area and Pearl Harbor, which was our
home port; the Pearl Harbor sub base, as the port lookout I saw a craft,
saucer-shaped, the size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for
those of you who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up out of the
water approximately 2 1/2 nautical miles off the port bow, which is about
45 degrees to the left of the pointy end of the submarine. It tumbled
slowly on its own axis, and went up into the clouds. It appeared to be
moving slowly to me at a distance of 2 1/2 nautical miles, but in reality it
was moving pretty fast because it came up out of the water, did a few tumbles
and it was gone!"

"I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't tell him what it
was that I saw because my Daddy didn't raise no fools and in case nobody else
saw it I didn't want to be the only looney onboard the ship. So I asked
the officer of the deck to help me cover that area, and he did, which is
common for officers and lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch
because they all hang together if something bad happens. After a few
seconds of watching, the same craft, or another craft exactly like it, came
down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own axis, and went into the
water. Ensign Ball, who was the officer of the deck, was literally
shocked! What could I say? Seaman Dejeralimo, who was the starboard
lookout, had also witnessed this, and ensign Ball called the captain to the
bridge who was followed by the chief quartermaster who brought a 35MM
camera, and we watched for between 7 and 10 minutes the same craft, or
different craft that looked exactly alike, enter and leave the water. It
was an incredible show. I don't know if they knew we were there, or if they
even cared, but the craft did not glow, they were metal, they were
machines without a doubt, they were obviously intelligently guided, they
were HUGE, and having been in the Air Force and the Navy and knowing what it
takes, I knew without a doubt, and know it today, that that machine was
not made on the face of this Earth. Because there's nothing that man can
make, that can fly through the air at a speed like that, tumble on its own
axis, and enter the water and effectively fly beneath the sea."

"If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard a
submarine, I know there's probably some of you in this room who have
visited a submarine at one time or another, you can readily see just
without even any of the technicalities involved how difficult such a thing
would be to do. Where would it be built, that size? It was absolutely
incredible. It changed my life because then all the stories that I'd heard
all my life I knew were true, and I began seeing the world in a different
light."

"It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security in
intelligence. I was sent to Viet Nam. I was assigned as a patrol boat
captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a multi-million dollar
patrol boat. My job was to gather intelligence from the people who lived
around the harbor and the fishermen who transited the harbor, and maintain
the safety and security of the harbor and the shipping. After about 5 months
I was sent up North to the DMZ, to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], on the
Tacan [sp] river. Our base camp was at the river mouth. We were only 3 miles
South of the North Vietnamese border and our job was to patrol the Tacan
river from the river mouth to Dang Ha[sp], and then up the Quang Tree [sp]
cutoff to Quang Tree city, again to get to know the people on the bank,
gather intelligence, and to patrol every night and maintain the safety
and security of the river and the river traffic."

"It was while there that I discovered that there was a tremendous
amount of UFO and alien activity in Viet Nam. It was always reported in
official messages as 'enemy helicopters.' Now any of you who know
anything about the Viet Nam war know that the North Vietnamese did not have
any helicopters, especially after our first couple of air raids into North
Viet Nam. Even if they had they would not have been so foolish as to bring
them over the DMZ because that would have insured their demise. Our troops
were fired on occasionally by these 'enemy helicopters,' enemy troops were
fired on occasionally by these 'enemy helicopters,' and occasionally people
would disappear. And on one instance that I know for sure at least one
entire village disappeared one night due to alien activity. The reason they
used the term 'enemy helicopters' in messages and dispatches was that in
Viet Nam you could be overrun at any time, no matter where you where. They
did not bring crypto encoding equipment into Viet Nam, I'm talking
about the machinery. What we did is we had crypto tables, and once we every
24 hours those codes would be no good. So that's what we used. We also,
because of the inability to use crypto transmitting equipment, had to devise
code words such as 'enemy helicopters.'"

"When I left Vietnam I was eventually attached to the
headquarters staff of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific
Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill overlooking Pearl
Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up there, and I was
specifically attached to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the
Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet."

"It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my duties,
documents were placed in my hands that were so unbelievable and so incredible
that it took me quite a while to adjust to the fact that what I was
seeing was real. Now for those of you who don't understand how I could come
to see this information let me give you a little short course in security
clearance and "the need to know" and how you get to see classified
information if you're in the military or in the government, it doesn't
matter which, the rules are the same."

"Number one you need a security clearance, and you've got to have
clearance at the level that the information you want to see is
classified at. In this instance it was classified 'Top Secret, Magic,
Restricted Information,' which I came to find out later is the highest
security classification in the Nation. To get that type of clearance, all you
have to have is a Federal Bureau of Investigation background check, which
takes about six months and they send federal agents to your home, to your
old schools, to all your teachers, to your friends, to everybody you put
down on your security clearance forms, to all your old addresses, your
neighbors, everybody that you've worked for, and it's embarrassing
because they don't tell them what they're checking on. They just show
them their identification and start asking questions and that's when you
find out who's your friend and who's not, because a lot of people get
scared and think, 'Bill just robbed a bank and I'm not talkin' to him
anymore.'"

"Now once you get that it's called a  'B.I.' and for those of you who have
received a copy of my service record look on the first page, the DD-214
where it says 'Security Clearance,' you will see the term 'B.I.' That's a
'Bureau of Investigation' clearance. Now at that point, you have the
clearance for everything including Top Secret and above. What determines what
you get to see is your need to know, and the job that you have determines
what your need to know is."

"I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in
Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who had to know everything
concerning his area of operations which was one-half of the Earth's
surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, and all the land masses in
between. Believe it or not, if we go to war, if we ever go to war, it's the
United States Navy that strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the
enemy at bey while we can get ourselves together, at least
historically. Nuclear weapons have kind of done away with that concept,
but military commanders like to talk about it anyway."

"Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of material
and information that an area commander has to know, it's unbelievable, and he
has to keep track of this, he has to keep on top of it. He has to know
what's happening, he has to make the right decisions. Because it's almost
humanly impossible for anyone to do that, they have what's called a
briefing team, and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct
information, all the time, on a 24 hour basis. And every morning, between
8 and 9 AM, we would give a briefing which covered everything that happened
in the previous 24 hours, and everything scheduled to happen in the
next 24 hours, and all the pertinent intelligence reports that we had
received since the last briefing that he needed to know and that his staff
members needed to know. Occasionally we would get messages marked 'Top
Secret, Magic, Restricted Information,' and it would be coded in
such a way that all you had were answers to questions which you didn't
know what the questions were so you really didn't know what the message
was all about."

"But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two documents; one
called 'Project Grudge,' another one called 'Operation Majority.' Project
Grudge contained the history of alien involvement since around 1936, and it
began talking about Germany's involvement with a crashed disk that
they had recovered in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the
technology. They were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters
want to tell you. If they had been successful, we would not have won the
war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot outfly those
craft, you can't even think about it with conventional aircraft. If Germany
had been successful, we would now have a German flag up in front of this
podium."

"They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy [sp] we captured
documents, we got some scientists, we got some hardware. The Russians also
got some documents, some scientists, and some hardware. It wasn't until
1947 that we were able to capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together
but it was everything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New
Mexico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Project
Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft, I saw
photographs of live aliens, I saw photographs of autopsies, internal
organs, I saw photographs of the alien designated 'E.B.'[or Ebe] which was
held in captivity from 1949 until June the 2nd, 1952 when he died. I saw the
history of what they had been able to at that time put together, from
incidents in the 1800's which involved aliens and their craft."

"I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly recovered
alien craft that had been recovered intact and undamaged, and some of them
were recovered intact and undamaged, and how that happened I have no idea.
It was called 'Project Red-light,' and first was conducted from the Tonopah
test range in the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially
built area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called 'Area-51,' code
named 'Dreamland,' in the Groom [sp] dry lake area of the Nevada test
sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist officially, if you ask
anyone, or if you write letters to the government they will tell you it
doesn't exist. However if you go out  there at several places and see it,
fly outside the boundaries and look down and see it, you know it's there,
but according to the government it doesn't exist."

> You'll see part 2 after my next netcall...
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