HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: AWGS vs System 6
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:49:09 GMT

Larry W. Virden (lwv26@cas.org) wrote:
: 
:My father-in-law purchased a TMS Pro 105 hard disk recently.  It came with 
:system 6, some inits, etc. installed.  He installed AWGS 1.1 on it and began
:working with it.  He found that it frequently freezes operation.  In one demo
:he provided for me, the mouse cursor continued to move, but no menu items would
:drop,  no windows would reposition, etc.  The system had to be rebooted.  He
:also saw times when the outside border of the screen (where text, windows etc
:never go) would turn to a bright red.
: 
:Any ideas where to start looking for a fix for this problem?  What steps
:would be useful?

	First, try shift booting, ie. hold down the SHIFT key while
booting up from the hard disk, to disable all the inits and DAs.  They
can be a great cause of program crashes and headaches.
	Second, does he have a Zip or other accelerator cards installed
in his GS?  I find that my AWGS 1.1 Word Processor module freezes or
crashes very frequently when my Zip is running at full 9 Mhz.  Diabling
it to 2.8 Mhz cures everything.

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From: paw@ausom.oz.au (Peter Watson)
Subject: Re: rom 1 to rom 3 upgrade
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:59:45 GMT
Reply-To: paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher) writes:

>There were 4 types of ROM... rom 0...This didn't give a version number at
>boot.
>rom1-3 these identified themselves. ROM 2 is rare, I'm not sure it was ever
>released. ROM 3 has a few more tools and comes with 1meg standard on the
>board.

ROM 2 is in fact so rare that it never even EXISTED! Apple "skipped" through
to ROM 03 so that the confusion of having ROM 01 being the "second" ROM was
no longer a problem.
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From: dhua@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Hua)
Subject: Cheap 9600 modem/fax for //gs?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 10:47:36 GMT


Is there any cheap (under $200) 9600 send/receive modem + fax that is
compatible with the //gs, i.e., with the right cables?  I've looked through
Computer Shopper, but find only those that are $200+.  Also, what type of
cable is usually needed for a generic 9600 modem/fax to hook up to the //gs?

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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FVNet
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:25:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I for one don't see a problem with linking to Ogg-Net. I would hope that there
would not be a charge. You can even use me or one of the other Hubs as
a gateway.
.
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From: joe_luzzi@QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU ("Joe Luzzi")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Re- pointless pointers?
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:02:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


        Reply to:   RE>Re: pointless pointers?




In <1992Dec17.175728.4676@memstvx1.memst.edu>
crash!pro-sol!danb@nosc.mil (Dan Brown) writes:

>>      First, Pointless won't improve on the resolution of your printer. 
It
>>will, however, let you always have the perfect size available.  As to
>>converting fonts from the Mac, that's easy.  Put in the Mac disk with the
>>fonts, copy them to the GS, and "Add" them to Pointless.  That's it. 
>>Converting fonts from Windows is harder, and requires a Mac with
>>Metamorphosis or Fontographer to convert them to Mac format.

There is also TTconverter v1.3 which runs on the Macintosh.  It
converts from Mac-->Windows and Windows-->Mac.  It is shareware $10.00.  It
can be obtained from Mac ftp sites such as sumex-aim.stanford.edu.  

___________________
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From: lecates@ravel.udel.edu (Roy LeCates)
Subject: InnerDrive to a Mac?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:38:09 GMT

I have an InnerDrive 100 which is not being used (I already
have a Vulcan).  I tried connecting it to a Mac but ran into
problems.  No software would format the drive.  I've tried
MANY, MANY utilities including Silver Lining and others.
Is there any way to get the Mac to format the drive?
Any suggestions why it doesn't work?  Many thanks...

-Roy
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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: a question of storage
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:00:41 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Brian Tao (90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA) wrote:
:     1.  Flopticals are smaller and a lot easier to carry around.
:     2.  An external floptical drive takes up less room.
:     3.  Media is cheaper on a per-megabyte basis.
:     4.  Will read MS-DOS 720K and MS-DOS/ProDOS/Mac 1.44-meg disks.
:     5.  Flopticals are newer, therefore they are more cool.  :)

Ahem, from what I saw from Todd P. Whitesel's (?) post said that it will
_NOT_ read Mac/ProDOS disks.  I think he also said it wouldn't read MS-DOS
disks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gachot@bonnet.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: GS+ Magazine
Reply-To: gachot@bonnet.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:49:20 GMT


	Yes for me too, I subscribe last month for one year and I received the
	September/October issue of GS+ Mag.
	I'm still waiting for the November/December.

			-Erik.
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(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0n6b5K-0000mjC; Mon, 28 Dec 92 23: 09 PST
From: tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Subject: Re: Memory expansion/ //c
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 22:43:49 PST

When installing the memory card be sure to observe ESD safety and work
carefully and slowly as to avoid breaking or bending pins.
Test it before installing all screws.
From: mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Kenrick Mock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Why didn't my apple need a screen saver?
Date: 3 Jan 93 07:47:53 GMT
Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering

In bunches of articles:

]For the first time ever, Jawaid, I have to disagree with you. Screen savers
]are more than just cute animations.

Well, I don't know about the GS monitor and screen burn
(some of you have argued that it is susceptible; personally I have
left mine on at a BBS wait screen for a LONG time and nothing happened),
but the new VGA/SVGA monitors won't get screen burn.

So, as people like Paul pointed out, screen savers mostly serve only
as cutesy things and are not even a factor on quite a few systems.


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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Switch-It! Demo
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:43:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Jawaid Bazyar's lips:
> 
> As for your second- um, let me put it this way. soniqTracker has no
> problems with SI!. :-)

    Unless you happen to have MODZap in memory at the same time... ;-)
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: Switch-It! Press Release
Date: 3 Jan 1993 06:36:40 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

sander@edsi.plexus.COM (Scott Anderson) writes:

>Todd and world, I'm sure that Jawaid means the system 6 macintosh
>multi-finder, not the multitasker found in system 7.

Bzzt! Apple ballyhooed the multitasking in system 7, but it was already there
in system 6. MultiFinder is MultiFinder, and Jawaid would be more accurate if
he compared Switch-It to Switcher.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WANTED: Your original 65816
Keywords: ZIP GSX users, old 65816
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:42:13 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

jdb8042@blkbox (John D. Baker) writes:
>I'm looking to acquire 1 (maybe 2) 65816's for use in my
>//e in place of the 65C02 since I've received reports that
>this switch is possible.  (If I can get more than one, I'll
>try the other in my Franklin ACE 1000).

I don't think you can do that. I'm not an expert but I don't think you can.
There -is- a chip called the 65802 that is pin compatible with the 65C02 and
will get the IIe to address more memory (or is it that simple?) or work in
16 bit mode? I can't remember - I just remember that it doesn't do both but
that you can pop it in instead of the 65C02.
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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Apple IIc to Apple IIe upgrade
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:45:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.235728.3893@scorch.apana.org.au> lgarde@scorch.apana.org.au (Leon Garde) writes:
>
>Um, well scott, I've had games that wont work on my //c.
>DROLL is the first one i found that didn't , and Captain Goodnite did
>too. I suspect either reliance on ROM for this. Or exploitation
>of some incompatible feature of the controller card in ][e's.
>any 'in the know' answer on this ?

	Drol (one 'l') has funky problems.  On one of my friend's ][+'s it
worked fine.  On my unenhanced //e everything worked up till the point between
levels when it would have the little cartoon with the mom hugging the kids,
at which point it would freeze.  After I got my //e enhanced, it worked 
perfectly.  What does it do on a //c?  Also, I have a friend who has Captain
Goodnite, and it works fine on his //c.

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From: jcooper@utkvx3.utk.edu (Jonathan Cooper)
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet III Questions???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:52:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.182531.5360@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes...
>As far as I know, the LaserJet III doesn't use AppleTalk networking.  I am

uh, the laserjet III has an appletalk option available.  this one probably has
it installed.

>not positive, but I would suggest another way, since the III uses a parallel
>port.  Get a parallel sharing device, you can find these anywhere, and hook
>your GS w/ parallel card up to the sharing device.  If you can't afford a
>printer sharing device, get an automatic data switchbox, and use Harmonie.

the real question here is:  is there any way to use Harmonie drivers over a
network?  

I don't think so, and I don't think there is any way to use this printer over
appletalk from a gs.  if i'm wrong, i would love to know.

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From: jcitro@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU (Joe Citro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Seiko datagraph
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:52:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  Last summer, I bought one of those Seiko datagraph watches at 
  Kansasfest.  When I got it home I tried it out on my II GS and the
  software wouldn't work right.  I put it away and promptly forgot about
 it.  Today, I got it out again and guess what, it still doesn't work.
  I keep getting a "bad time from clock" error. Could this be because
the 
  GS has a clock of its own?  I know the watch was designed for the
  II+ and IIe, but I was hoping it would work on the GS.  Does anyone
  have a clue on how to get it to work?  Thanks in advance.
 


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From: mcobb@scott.skidmore.edu (mary cobb)
Subject: Re: Fatal Error 0911
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:26:59 GMT

Well, you all seem to be convinced that a cooling fan is the solution.  If I
get a cooling fan, I will never have to punch the poor machine again most
likely, and it will rid me of the fatal 911 error.  I'd probably belive you,
but...

I already have two cooling fans on my GS.

My InnerDrive has a cooling fan built-in, and I have a System Saver on as well.
Doesn't seem to help.

So much for that theory, anyway.

Eric
From: jarezina@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jasna M Arezina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Please help me, my GS is falling apart!!!!! : -(
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:40:23 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University


I've been having problems with my Rom01  and some applications... there is some
pixels (bytes?) on the screen that are junked - the programs all seem to work 
fine, but it's worrying - finder sometimes does it, too. It also hapeens 
between Sys504 and Sys6, so that's not the problem.

Oh yes, it's not the software - the harddrive and stuff works fine on a 
rom03... it's just my machine. Is this is problem with the hardware (my freind 
says it's the shadow-ram) or just a known glitch?
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Out Of This World Easter Eggs?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 17:41:42 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

In SoftDisk G-S #38 there is a review and also mentioned that OOTW has 
easter eggs littered thoughout the game. Has anyone found any of them?

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: system upgrade?
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:43:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Ben Chang's lips:
> 
> Here's my problem...i am in dire need of system 5.0.4 or higher.   I am
> currently using 5.0.2 and it's a pain to keep finding i'm two-hundredths
> of a system upgrade short of what i need.  is there anywhere i can get the
> system disks via ftp?

    Wow, more like 0.98 behind!  Grab the System 6.0 disks from the
bric-a-brac@apple.com FTP site.  Then keep an eye out for 6.0.1 in the
coming months.

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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Comments Anyone?
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:16:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Bill Logsdon's lips:
> 
>  Brd > Computer News * Apple // *        Numb> 137 of 150
>  To  > Apple II users                    From> John Sculley (#113)
>  Subj> Policies                          Date> 12/17/92  09:11:25 PM
>  Sorc> Sculley's Hatred:Gardena Ca       Rcd > Sun. Dec 20 1992 @ 04:46
>  
> I have been following this thread and the need to speak out against
> ignorance and conjecture.

    Oh please... is this *really* from Sculley, or just some user who goes
by the alias John Sculley?  Since the remaining messages are posted with
aliases, and the originating system is called "Sculley's Hatred", I somehow
doubt this is the CEO of a billion-dollar computer corporation speaking.

> Apple Computer, Inc.
> 20525 Mariani Avenue
> Cupertino, California 95014
> Attn: John Sculley, CEO
>  
> (408) 996-1010 and press 0 for the operator.

    Someone in 408 wanna give this number a try?  Otherwise, don't waste
your money on an LD charge...

> For service information and dealer location call 1-800-538-9696

    Like this will help us Apple II users... (boy, two exams can really put
me in a bitchy mood, eh?)  :(

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From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: An oft repeated point... (Was Re: Switch It
Date: 30 Dec 1992 02:16:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From some Jeff guy:
> Jawaid ....this is REALLY great!  I am VERY impressed!

Ummm... I have nothing against stroking 'waid, but be carefull of his
big head. What I'm really following up to though is the fact that
stroking _SHOULD_ be done in E-mail... (Just like flames...) 

Now if you wanted to revise your post to tell WHY or WHAT makes it
so great, and disguise it as a product review for those who haven't 
downloaded it yet, then so be it. But please try and not post just to
see if you can...

Thanks!
Dan
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Interplay
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:51:01 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously Sadasivam, Krishna Madur wrote:
 
>Are there any other IIgs programs to be released by Interplay, besides
>OOTW (which I'm still playing!)?? I think that OOTW has got to be the
>BEST game I've played on my IIgs, and that a sequel of some sort should
>be in the offing!!
 
DragonWars is another cool adventure game by Interplay. And I agree that
OOTW is definately the best game out for the GS in quite some time. I
only hope that sales for the game will warrent a GS version of the
sequel. If you haven't bought Out Of This World for your GS, pick up your
phone and call Big Red at (402) 379-4680 and order it! Accept no pirated
copies if you still want to see new cool GS software! And no, I don't
work for or have any connections with Big Red other than being a very
satisfied customer.
 
>Oh, and here's some totally unrelated information. The Transformers are
>being revived...a new cartoon mini-series is in the works, along with
>new toy figures. Just thought I'd share that.
 
And let's not forget to add that Hasbro is also re-releasing the
_ORIGINAL_ molds. You know the first run of TransFormers that appeared
almost a decade ago? The ones with metal parts and real rubber tires!
They aren't available in Canada yet, but I've heard stores in the US have
them in stock already. Apparently the have some new additions like a
lights and sound module. Just thought I'd add to the above comment. (Is
this known as cross-posting???) =)
 
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From: thompson@UMDSUN2.UMD.UMICH.EDU (joshua m. thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: IIe Rev-A upgrade
Date: 26 Dec 92 14:31:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In reply to the peson who wished to know if the IIe logic upgrade board is still
available : yes, it is.  I work at a dealer, so I ought to kmnow.
From: jlars@pro-storm.cts.com (John Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProTERM v3.0 ZipGS 8MHz v32bis/v42bis Losing CHARACTERS!
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:03:29 GMT
Organization: ProLine [Pro-Storm] -- Dallas, TX -- 214/644-5113


  I used to have the same problem with my //e before I upgraded from 2.0
Proterm.  Try this for a fix,  Have the host system send you a couple of
nulls per line that Fixed my problem.  Give it a try and good luck!!
 
John Larson 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris)
Subject: rom 1 to rom 3 upgrade
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:30:12 GMT



Is is possible to get a rom 1 gs upgraded to a rom 3 anymore?  I asked
the dealer where the computer was bought and they more or less laughed 
at me.  

On another strange note, I'm trying to run system 6 and 5 on the rom 1
and it tells me that a rom 01 or later is needed to run the system. 
Does this mean that there was a gs prior to rom 1?

Thanks for any input.

Scott

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From: pads@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen J. Padbury)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: II+ upper/lowercase ?
Date: 28 Dec 92 05:44:29 GMT
Distribution: World
Organization: University of Delaware

I recently received an old apple II+ with a modem. (Hayes micromodem II
300 baud) I am interested in using it for my e-mail account on the 
UNIX based mainframes at the university. As you may or may not know,
UNIX is case sensitive. The II+ refuses to have anything to do with
Upper and lower case. I also have an apple IIc. I want to have some
sort of a functioning terminal at home, but I can't attach the modem
to the IIc because it doesn't open for peripherals and the modem's
terminal functions are all on the card. To make a long story short,
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank You Very Much,
Stephen Padbury
pads@ravel.udel.edu