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From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Exchange              2/
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 01:03:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

>>> Continued from previous message
5) Each participant would then tell us, the other participants, about
their chosen city, and give us their opinion of how they think the city
is doing and what problems the city might face in the future. This need
not be a particularly complex task. It simply means looking at the
basic data and making a guess as to what will happen in the future. Nor
need this opinion be presented as a formal report. It is the gut
understanding of the city that is most useful to the participant. Of
course, it would be useful for the other participants to see some of the
basic data obtained.

At the end of the exercise each participant should have a working
knowledge of how their city is functioning, of how the other cities
chosen are in character and in health, and of how cities in general
operate. The participant will also leave with a 'gut' understanding of
what such things as GDP, population growth rates, etc. are and why they
are so useful in obtaining information about how cities operate and are
faring at any particular point in time. In fact, this exercise could be
extended to consider comparisons of whole countries. In this case we
could make use of another simulation package called CIVILISATION which
requires the player to manage a whole country or civilisation over a
period of thousands of years. CIVILISATION would in fact be a very
useful tool to use to get across to students the sweep of history and
the importance of advances in technology in developing a civilisation.
The managing of cities is also a part of Civilisation.

Michael, I hope that this idea appeals to you. It need not be a
particularly difficult or complex exercise, since it could be quite
easily tailored to the level of the students involved and to the level
of commitment that you can give to the project.

Anyway, I will eagerly await your reply. In the meantime I will put
together that simplistic city format I have been talking about, ready to
send to you if you so require.

Bye,    Andrew Probert




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From: Roland.Gesthuizen@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Roland Gesthuizen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: INT. HISTORY PROJECT... A
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 17:30:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

MN>        I read the message about your project and it sounds very
MN>interesting. Let me explain myself first. I am a nineteen year

Great! I am very pleased that you might be able to join in. I am going to send Ramsey Iman a copy of your letter so that he can forward some more information to you about what it will involve.

Best wishes from Ausralia and for 1993

Roland Gesthuizen


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From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Exchange
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 14:33:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hello, Tim. Please  have a look at the latest message that I have left Michael Moynihan. I have suggested an idea for a project comparing different cities in different states or countries.

Thanks,   Andrew



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From: Judi.Coons@f218.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Judi Coons)
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Subject: GIFTED ED.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 09:09:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/218 - K12Net Mail Server, Lanesboro MA

Hello Other  Homeschoolers;
 
I have been away from the computer  since before Christmas since I am using the computer at the local elementary school. I am  still interested in hearing from other homeschoolers in the country. 
 
I am curious to know about the homeschooling atmosphere in South Carolina Also, I would like to know if other areas of the country have to obtain
approval for homeschooling from their local school districts and not from the State Department of Education. How is it working out for you? I am finding that the various school districts all have such varying "rules"that I have to be aware of the different policies of the districts. I think it would be easier to have to deal with one policy making body. I would enjoy hearing some feed back on either side of this issue.        
 
I shall return to the computer next Thursday. I hope to hear from some of you other homeshcoolers. 
 
Judi Coons
 
 


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From: Cameron.Neblett@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Cameron Neblett)
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Subject: Re: Pen Pals
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:31:04 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Dear Brian,
     I am glad that finally somebody types real fast.  It is nice that there is someone out there who can.  I am going to need to make this letter short because I have about 5 more letters that I need to reply to in about 14 minutes.  Anyway, Next time, I should have more time to chat.  GOODBYE!

                              Your Friend,
                              Cameron Neblett


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From: Brian.Schoenbeck@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Schoenbeck)
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Subject: Re: pen-pals
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 22:14:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

You want a pen-pal? You got it! I'm 2 years ahead in 7th grade, 13 years 
old, Portland Oregon resident. I play the piano and the trumpet. Have 
any special interests?
 
Brian S>



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From: Brian.Schoenbeck@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Schoenbeck)
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Subject: Re: Pen Pals
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 20:47:25 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Oh ho! 42 words a minute? Finally! Nice to know someone that can type 
within my range!!(69+ WPM) I'm in a TAG program in Portland, Oregon, but 
my teacher seems to forget EVERYTHING so I don't know whether to leave 
for the TAG center in the morning or afternoon! C-YA!
 
Brian S.



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From: Cheree.Keller@f6506.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Cheree Keller)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: NATIONAL CENTER FOR TECH PLA
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 11:40:40 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/6506 - BBS AMERICA/3RS BBS, Richardson TX

How does one obtain a copy of your book?
THe ideas you have expressed in your posting are ideas I wholly agree with. I have two gifted sons, and I'm very disappointed with the education they are receiving in the public schools here (they are in 4th and 6th grades). I am strongly considering doing home schooling, and I appreciate all input regarding this..and would very much like to go along with the type of philosophy that you have briefly touched upon.
Thank you
Cheree Keller

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From: Grant.Wiseman@f40.n2310.z1.fidonet.org (Grant Wiseman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Elders
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 08:00:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2310/40 - EVSC BBS, Evansville IN

       Would you please ask some of your older workers to call 477-8915.
Our class at Hebron School is working on a project that concernes history. It
will be a great deal in the community.



                                               Fifth Grade Teacher,
                                              Libby Culiver 

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From: Kit.Perrien@f462.n3625.z1.fidonet.org (Kit Perrien)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Pen Pals
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 23:45:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3625/462 - The World According, Mobile AL

Paul, how old are you?  I like many of the things you enjoy, including star trek and chess.  I am 15 and interested in learning more about you.  please write back.  your friend, Kit



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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
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Subject: Puzzle
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 19:27:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
SK>  That one went right by ... What on earth, sorry, I shouldn't be so picky
SK>about what planet but getting back to the question at hand ... Excuse me? I
SK>missed the point of that seemingly pointless comment!! Please clarafy.
SK>                                                      -= Komar =-

Komar, that was all the message I got.  Do you have the ability to quote
original messages?  I am a compulsive writer, and I operate in lots of
areas, so I have no idea now what it was that I sent you.  Can you
elaborate, to dsave me burrowing through up to 20 zipped files?

peter




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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
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Subject: Re: TEACHER EDUCATION
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 23:12:17 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

For what it is worth, I question that investment of ANY time teaching 
"handwriting" to gifted students...
 
except perhaps as an art form for fun to those who find it interesting...
 
 
Anyone think such drivel should not be eliminated from gifted programs?
 
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: Clarence.Hamilton@f462.n3625.z1.fidonet.org (Clarence Hamilton)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: puppets/puppeteers
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 18:42:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3625/462 - The World According, Mobile AL

greetings teachers/puppeteers
if any one is interested in networking about puppet construction, animation, stages, sound, music, effects, even puppet computer animation get on line. lets chat. i teach school...library media and im going back to school..graduate school at the local university.  
if you us puppets in your work, school, or have an interest...lets network.
clarence hamilton & company...
wally the bookworm,
oley,
red reed, cpa and more.


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Oh no, another puzzle
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 19:29:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220

SK>** How many statements are true/false?**

SK>1. One statement is false.

SK>We now return you to your regularly sceduled (Whoops, bad spelling!!)((I
SK>think)) Program..
SK>                                                       -= Komar =-

Hmmm.  Are you a self-reverenced sentience?

peter

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From: Emily.Combs@f2030.n391.z1.fidonet.org (Emily Combs)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: A project
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 22:17:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:391/2030 - Rogers Public Schoo, Rogers AR

Andrews, I am a gifted/talented coordinator in Rogers, Arkansas, and 
saw your message about SimCity.  That WAS a GOOD think!  I understand 
from a friend (G/T coordinator), John Antonetti, Sheriden, AR that 
there is an interdisciplinary study centered around SimCity going on 
there in the middle school.  Just thought you would be interested in 
that.  My address is 409 South 8th, Rogers AR 72756, if you would like 
to get in touch with John.  Good luck!

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From: Chris.Brown@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Brown)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Drives
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 07:54:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

Does anyone have any idea where I can find an IDE/SCSI drive for a decent price? Preferably over 100Meg?
-----Chris


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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: RE: TEACHER EDUCATION    
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 11:25:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

-> For what it is worth, I question that investment of ANY time teaching
-> "handwriting" to gifted students...
->
-> except perhaps as an art form for fun to those who find it
-> interesting...
->
-> Anyone think such drivel should not be eliminated from gifted
-> programs?

Yes, I think that ALL students should learn some form of writing don't
their thoughts legibly on a piece of paper. I am not sure what you mean
by "handwriting", as I know that *some* teachers who teach it put a
great deal of emphasis on trivial things, such as the degree slant of
the letters, or the particular shape of the loops. THAT is a waste of
time for any student, gifted or not.

Why do you think that gifted students should be treated any differently
with regards to handwriting instruction than other students? Surely in
this area the needs of all persons to be able to communicate so that
others can read what they have written are aproximately the same? If you
see eliminating handwriting instruction as a good idea, what do you
invision taking its place so that students could write legibly?

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
  

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From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Gifted Children       2/
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 01:03:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

>>> Continued from previous message
No, your answer was no longer than my previous letter and this reply. I
like to get long letters, and indeed to write them.

By the way I have left another message for you which should accompny
this one.

Yours,   Andrew
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From: Brandt.Voight@f40.n2310.z1.fidonet.org (Brandt Voight)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: pen-pals
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 10:15:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2310/40 - EVSC BBS, Evansville IN

       Dear Pen-Pals,
               Hi, my name is Brandt Voight. I'm 11 years old and in 5th
 grade.  Please be my pen pal. Thanks!



                                       Brandt Voight


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From: Carol.Rundberg@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Rundberg)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: counselor exchange
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:24:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

Dear Soozi,
    I saw your response to Austin Miller re counseling and think that it represents a view that is rather shortsighted.  Counseling forchildren is one of the regular education services that can be termed 'pre-referral':  in other words, if there is intention to avoid special education services longterm, then counseling may be one avenue to that destination.  Also, in my experience, it is most unfortunate if special educators or anyone else in a school see themselves as set apart from the  education team wh
ich serves all children.  Anyone who comes in contact with a child - art teacher, gym teacher, cafeteria assistant, etc., can contribute to the well-being of the child - and that surely includes counselors.  
     I do see the need to have some clusters of interests such asspecial education on the computer, but I hope the  clusters do not become so
distinct as to exclude those with interests which intersect or overlap with a field of interest.
           Eclectically yours,  Carol Rundberg


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From: Debbie.Roth@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Debbie Roth)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: NEW Users
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:50:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

My class was awarded a grant for a modem, phone line , IBM compat 
computer, scanner, and software. The modem will be used with 5-6th 
graders LD kids. So if anyone wants to send some e-mail to NEW modem 
users..please do so.  Our school is in El Paso Tx...we also accept 
REAL mail if you want to penpal  via the word processor...
Happy New Year to one and all
Debbie


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From: Soozi.Miller@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: Sites of significance
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 13:36:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT


Hopefully this NET will bring you the information that you need.  Check out message 2499 from Lynn Regan.  I think you will find it of interest.  I'm not sure how active she is in reading this NET, but her message indicates that New Jersey USA has some type of computer project in process at Toms River, NJ. It would surely be a start for you and maybe they could lead you to other contacts.


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From: Steve.Martindale@puddle.fidonet.org (Steve Martindale)
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Subject: NEW Users
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 04:04:07 PDT
Organization: Pacific Systems Group

Hi there Debbie.  I could probably arange for you to exchange letters with a school up here if you wish.  I send your class mail but have no idea what to say with them.  I will wait for your next reply and ask them prior to your aproval.  

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From: Tim.Ames@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Ames)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: Re: BEHAVIORAL OBJECTIVES
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 19:06:35 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

Soozi, I just uploaded our IEP [Independent Educational Plan] to you- I hope 
it gets sent and received properly. Our alternate school [and theoretically 
other alternated schools] in Vancouver used to send these with students that 
graduate or transfer our of our programs. It includes behavioral objectives 
[though I now realize, the sample I sent you did not contain too many]. If 
you want me to go into more detail about behavioral objectives that we work 
out with our students, please let me know. Bye, Tim


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From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: MAGNET Schools
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:37 MST
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
Distribution: world
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Keywords: MAGNET Schools
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    


Hello all,
  I am attempting to obtain as much information or opinions as possible
regarding peoples thoughts on the value of MAGNET schools. Schools that
offer either highly specialized courses or courses which are for one
reason or another, such as limited enrollment at a single school but
high enrollment at a centralized district site, valuable in that context
for providing and filling an overall need within a school district.
  I have run a random in district survey of opinions and I would like
to contrast that with opinions of educators around the country. This
particular MAGNET school services the needs of eleven high schools and
provides courses for not only college bound students but also vocational
and technical training courses. As examples, everything from computer
related courses (data-entry training through business to advanced place-
ment), building trades (general construction through cabinet making),
word-processing (court reporting through advanced word-processing tech-
niques), advanced classical and modern languages (Latin to Hebrew to
Japanese to Spanish to Russian, etc.),  pre-med, A.P. calculus/fortran,
A.P. physics, A.P. chemistry, aviation science, astronomy, an LPN course
which has a high school student qualified for their Licensed Practical
Nursing Certificate upon H.S. graduation, nursing assistant and homebound
aide program, etc.
  This is an important topic for us as we would like to make the program
even better and we need input from all sources to do so. 
  Unfortunately we need to present this Friday; January 15 so any opinions
you could send my way would be appreciated and forwarded on to the appro-
priate people as soon as they are received. If you could EMail to me at
me address below it would help to save a great deal of time but I will
also followup on the conferences.
			Thank you very much for your help in advance,
							Jim Skeba
======================================================================
   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
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From: Soozi.Miller@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: counselor exchange
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:54:03 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT


* In a message originally to All, Austin Martin said:
 > environment.What I would like to know is whether there are
 > any othercounselors on the K12 network, and whether any would
 > like tostart a communication line with me. I sure would like
 > to hearfrom any counselor....                    Warmest
 > regards....  Austin
Checking over the K12NET areas, I see that there is none specifically for counselors.  That's really too bad, having a counseling endorsement myself I know it is helpful to talk with others in the field.  We'd welcome your thoughts, but this particular area is for Special Education.  Comments, questions and concerns about being a counselor for the kids in special education would be very welcome here.  There has been quite a lively discussion about kids with behavior problems, should you scan the messages. 
Nice to see your message. Soozi, K12SPED Moderatorling endorsement 

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From: Carol.Rundberg@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Rundberg)
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Subject: Special Ed
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:32:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

Dear Austin,   I saw your message on this Echo area, too.  You may be interested to read the reply I sent to Soozi


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From: Tim.Ames@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Ames)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.special
Subject: Re: VIETNAMESE
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 18:59:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

Hi Mary, just downloaded your message. Will get back to you in a few days. 
Happy New Year, Tim


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