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From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Subject: Re: Best Football Names--I-A or I-AA???
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:02:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.204658.10966@athena.cs.uga.edu> varma@athena.cs.uga.edu
(Pratim Varma) writes:
>In article <seale.724085822@bcserv> seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
writes:
>>pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>>
>>>A NEW THREAD!!
>>
>>>So far we have the following:
>>
>>>Orlando Hathcett--Marshall
>>
>>>Tank Conner--N. Iowa
>>
>>>Add your favorites to the list, football fans!!
>>
>>Bingo Mancillas--Texas Tech
>>
>>Byron Bam Morris--Texas Tech
>>
>>-Jeff (waitin' 'til next year) Seale
>>
>>>PDunn
>
>Mack Strong  (Fullback at Georgia)
>

Ron Reagan, Maryland Safety

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From: applcore@utkvx2.utk.edu (Core, Andrew)
Subject: Re: Color Nicknames Current List
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.130820.5138@news.nd.edu>, Jim Pinkelman <James.K.Pinkelman.1@nd.edu> writes...
>Although I may have missed one or two during the compilation, here 
>is the current list:  (Thanks for all the replies)
> 
>Rainbow Warriors         Hawaii (not a single color but a bunch)
>Yellow Jackets           Georgia Tech 
>Golden Buffaloes         Colorado
>Golden Eagles            Southern Miss
>Golden Eagles            Tennessee Tech
>Golden Hurricane         Tulsa
>Golden Gophers           Minnesota
>Golden Bears             California
>Golden Flashes           Kent State
>Orangemen                Syracuse
>Big Red                  Cornell (I-AA)
>Cardinal                 Stanford 
>Crimson                  Harvard (I-AA)
>Crimson Tide             Alabama
>Redbirds                 Illinois State
>Redskins                 Miami (O)
>Red Raiders              Texas Tech
>Red Raiders              Colgate (may be I-AA)
>Redmen                   St John's
>Scarlet Knights          Rutgers
>Big Green                Dartmouth (I-AA)
>Green Wave               Tulane
>Blue Raiders             Middle Tennessee
>Blue Devils              Duke
>Blue Demons              Depaul
>Fighting Blue Hens       Delaware
>Purple Aces              Evansville
>Purple Paladins          Furman
>Black Bears              Maine


Cornell, Harvard, Dartmouth, Colgate....How about Brown while you're at it?  ;)

_
Go Vols!
Andrew Core
applcore@utkvx.utk.edu

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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Bear and A&M
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:23:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.222008.19527@dbsun.uucp> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.142946.2882@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>
>puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett) writes:
>> ...speaking of which, does anybody remember those commercials he made
>> for Southern Bell after his retirement? Where he was standing by the
>> goal, talking about how he wished he'd called his mama long distance
>> more often?
>
>I'm fairly sure the commercials started before his last season.
>Remember the "Call Home Bama" bumper stickers displayed by AU fans?
>My favorite rejoinder was the following T-shirt:
>  front             back
>  +-------------+  +--------------+
>  | 1972: 17-16 |  | 1992: Will   |
>  | 1982: 23-22 |  | they make it |
>  +-------------+  | 3 in a row?  |
>                   +--------------+

Um, doesn't the Sugar Bowl take place on Jan. 1, 199_3_?

>
>>...We're kinda crazy about the Bear down here.  I think the thing that I 
>>most like about Stallings, is how much he looks like - and acts like -
>>the Bear....8-)
>
>Not to mention sounds like the Bear.  He rates high in Bryanticity. :-)
>
>-- 
>*realName: Phil Harbison
>*mailName: harbison%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
>*phoneList: 314-731-7475 (w) 314-272-9318 (h)
>Rama-jama-yellowhamma', give `em hell, Alabama!

Kevin :)

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From: TJFAN@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: USC should drop the ND series
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:39:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: TJFAN@WATSON.IBM.COM
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1992Dec17.235452.2731@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>I don't have the figures in front of me, but I believe the overall series
>is still pretty close.  If you look at the results over the last twenty
>five years, rather than the last ten, I think those numbers are also
>fairly close, since the Trojans beat ND rather consistently for quite
>a while a couple of decades back.

The overall record is ND 37-23-4, for the last 25 years is ND 11-6.
It's not overwhelmingly one-sided but it is not close, either.

>Here's something else to consider.  Notre Dame got a lot of heat for 
>not continuing the series with Miami.  Notre Dame had some reasonably
>plausible reasons, other than not wanting to lose to Miami, for ending
>the series, but they got a lot of heat, anyway.  Imagine the heat USC 
>would get for ending one of the longest intersectional rivalries, and 
>one of the biggest games of the year, solely because they were tired 
>of losing.  If anything is likely to start you out on the road towards 
>second class football status, that's it.  

1) I think ND did the right thing. Keep Miami as annual rivarly (like FSU did)
   is not a smart thing to me.
2) Did ND still get the heat now? No! People will forget the heat but the record
   will stay.
3) It is really for USC to consider which choice has less advantage: being a
   coward (temporarily, because people will forget) or being a constant loser.
  
>What recruit would want to 
>come to the team that everyone reviles as cowards?

1) I believe players still go to ND even they dropped Miami, right?
2) I think 11 in a row has more factor on recruits than a coward. If USC drops
   ND today, I don't think it will hurt their recruits.

> ...You might be able
>to overcome some of this abuse by replacing ND with Miami, Florida State,
>Alabama, Michigan, or some other powerhouse.  But, let's face it, with
>the state of the team USC has, those teams would probably beat them, too.
>So you get the loss and get to be called cowards.  Doesn't sound like much
>of a deal to me.

1) This is exactly what I'm saying: replace ND with Penn State, for example.
   ND gave USC mental pressure but Penn State doesn't.
2) 

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  ??    ??       ??    ??
  ??    ??       ??               T. J. FAN, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
  ??    ?? ????? ??
  ??    ????   ????    ??         - A Trojan Fan (Used to be)
   ?????? ????    ??????          - and the ND hater (Probably no more)
             ????
          ??   ??
           ?????
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From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Pac-10 quiz
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:21:55 GMT

In article <BzDC8o.EnE@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>In article <CONERY.92Dec15235842@fullsail.cs.uoregon.edu> conery@fullsail.cs.uoregon.edu (John Conery) writes:
>>In order to (check all that apply)
>
>--PLH (for the SWC, it goes from west to east: Lubbock, Austin, Waco, Ft.
>Worth, Dallas, College Station, and Houston...:-)

Actually, now that Arkansas is in the SEC, the SWC should rename itself
to the Texas Conference.

Dave

-- 
Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093
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From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Bear and A&M       (was: Re: Reflections on Bowl Matchups...)
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:55:58 GMT

In article <1g7hhpINNkkt@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec10.045036.8931@dbsun.uucp> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
|> >Bryant brought discipline and success back to the A&M program.  After a
|> >1-9-0 record in 1954, he posted records of 7-2-1 (1955), 9-0-1 (1956), and
|> >8-3-0 (1957).  This would seem to indicate the flow of football knowledge
|> >was Alabama-to-A&M rather than A&M-to-Alabama.
|> 
|> Actually it indicates how quickly a football program can improve itself
|> by starting to pay its players.  Bryant landed the A&M football program
|> in deep doggie-doodoo for recruiting violations.  Also, it seems that
|> the reason he had left Kentucky was because he couldn't stand the fact 
|> that Rupp's boys had a higher salary than his.

  Bryant turned around the Maryland program in his only season there; after the
school President reinstated one of his players, he left to go to Kentucky where
he stayed for 8 seasons and guided them to their only SEC title.  Bryant left
Kentucky because he wanted football #1 and Rupp wanted basketball #1.  Bryant was
told by Kentucky higher ups that Rupp's days were numbered since the basketball
program was on probation.  While in Alabama, Bryant read where Rupp was given a
contract extension; so he left.  His first A&M team went 1-9 mainly because he
only had 29 players.  He admitted that he knew some boosters were giving the
players some extra benefits.  Bryant left A&M because as he put it "mama called".
The Alabama program had won 3 games in 4 years and needed someone who had turned
around a program.  Bryant was a winner everwhere he went.
  Since you seem to have an explanation for the A&M turnaround, how do you
explain those at Maryland, Kentucky, and Alabama (Bama won 3 games in 4 years
before Coach Bryant); none of those programs were on probation and Bama was never
investigated.  How do you explain only 1 losing season in 38 years?

  "He could take his team and beat yours;
   then take your team and beat his"

				Bum Phillips when asked about Coach Bryant
From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Texas and atm non-conference schedules.
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:04:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

>(I R A Aggie) writes:
  ^^^^^^^^^^^
  Nice, I actually like that one.

[atm's future non-conference schedule]
>
>1993: OU, LSU, Louisville, Missouri
>1994: OU, LSU, S. Miss, Louisville
>1995: LSU, Tulsa, and 2 TBA's [Colorado? Nebraska?]
>1996: LSU, Louisville, and 2 TBA's
>
>Ok, according to my notes, Colorado, Nebraska and Notre Dame
>have all been scheduled to a home-home 2 game series, supposedly
>Colorado in 95-96, NU in 96 and 98, and ND in the next century.
>
>James

    Thanks for the info.  Not bad scheduling.  If those 2 TBA's are high
quality teams, maybe you aggies (if you go undefeated again [please, no!!!])
won't have the same problem your having this year.

    Looks like LSU is staying.  Maybe you can try this.  Play the game in
New Orleans every year.  Each school has an excuse for a roadtrip and
N.O. is a great party town.  (Yes, in a way it could be like ou weekend,
but it would never compare.)  Geaux Tigers. ; )

Hook 'em Horns!!!
-Chris

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  Chris Robbins
$$         $$$$       $$$$       $$  Sigma Tau Gamma Fraternity
$$$   $$$$$$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  THE University of TEXAS at San Antonio
$$$$   $$$$$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  Roadrunner B-Ball- 1990, 1991 TAAC Champs
$$$   $$$$$$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  1992 Southland Conference Champions
$$         $$$$$$  $$$$$$$  $$$$$$$  My THREE favorite teams are the Longhorns,
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  Roadrunners, and whoever plays a@m.
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From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Kansas loses 2 players to AlohaBowl
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:18:51 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article 151133@mccall.com, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec18.200122.26391@mlb.semi.harris.com>, dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head) writes:
>>>I really am sorry to hear that--but at least they weren't injured.  As you
>>>probably know, BYU will be starting their 4th string quarterback (lost the
>>>first 3 to injuries).  Maybe with this news we'll stand a chance :)
>
>What? I hadn't heard that...yet at least, that BYU's first 3 QBs are
>injured.  How much playing time has number 4 had?
>>>
>>
>>This brings up a scary thought for Florida State.  It hasn't happened this
>>season, but if Charlie Ward gets hurt then the next QB in line is true
>>freshman Danny Kannell.  .......................................... Stay
>>healthy Charlie!!!
>>
>Not to mention that FSU would like to see Charlie on court, dribbling,too.

Good point!  Considering how the basketball team has been playing lately,
I'm sure Pat Kennedy is counting the days!

>--
>Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
>(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
>(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA




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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Defunct Bowl Games
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:10:30 GMT

In article <14DEC199213533166@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:

   >I'm compiling a list of Bowls-that-Were-but-Ain't-no-More, and I need some 
   >net.assistance.  I need to find a total of 13 with their locations, and so  
   >far I have five and only one location, as follows:

   >Bowl			Location
   >----			--------
   >California Raisin	Fresno CA
   >Bluebonnet		??
   >Tangerine 		??
   >Garden State
   >Cherry

I believe there was a bowl held in the Silverdome in Pontiac,
Michigan.  Perhaps that was the Cherry Bowl?



-Alan Harder                
 Go Blue!                   

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Oranges in a Bowl of Fruits
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:57:05 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <aggie-171292115544@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu>, aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) writes:
>David Poore had wondered how I could pull for Nebraska in the OB 
>over FSU. 
>
>Part of the reason is the attitude that I've run into on this
>campus. To the fans, FSU's sh*t don't stink. There's not a shred
>of humility...well, ok, there's some around, but not much. They
>*expect* a victory - NU is just another sacrifical goat. I don't
>think most students know what a poor season is. 
>
>They're spoiled. And I'd like to see the little brats get their
>due.
>
James,  Neb fans confuse me.  They'll applaud the other team
after a game(except OU and Colo).  Seem to be reasonable.  Yet,
I keep hearing stories that they're not happy unless they totally
annihilate their opponent.  Neb hasn't had less then 9 wins in a 
long time.  Talk about getting spoiled.  But they OU fans are 
getting a taste of losing and you see how they treat their coach.  
Some KansasSt fans would love to trade programs with those fans; 
not because we want a winning(okay we'd like that), but to show
those fans what losing is like and how to be humble and grateful
for what you do have.

At K-State, the team has improved and playing good football.
Snyder has done a great job of turning this program around.
A huge setback in the middle of this season, which was somewhat
corrected.  And most fans are happy with what KSU has done in
the past 2yrs.
--
Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
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From: rhett@utkvx2.utk.edu (Fitzsimmons, Marc)
Subject: truths about jon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:29:00 GMT

Johnny majors turned down an offer to be assistant athletic director. He was
offered a slight raise and all he had to do was go around the state playing
golf and drinking with alumni, what he does best(drink that is) He shot UT the
bird and wanted the buyout. Something tells me Pittwas already on his mind
then.

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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Pac-10 quiz
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:42:23 GMT

patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:

>In article <CONERY.92Dec15235842@fullsail.cs.uoregon.edu> conery@fullsail.cs.uoregon.edu (John Conery) writes:
>>In order to (check all that apply)
>>  (a) fill the void in Pac-10 news before the bowl games 
>>  (b) provide an excuse for a break from studying and/or grading finals
>>  (c) waste a few minutes before the office holiday party
>>  (d) needlessly aggravate SEC, ACC, and Miami fans
>>here is a Pac-10 geography quiz:
>>
>>(1) Without consulting an atlas, can you arrange the cities where the
>>teams play their home games in order from North to South?  The
>>cities, in alphabetical order, are:
>>
>>   Berkeley 
>>   Corvallis
>>   Eugene
>>   Los Angeles
>>   Palo Alto
>>   Pasadena
>>   Pullman
>>   Seattle
>>   Phoenix
>>   Tucson

>Okay -- how about:  Seattle, Pullman, Corvallis, Eugene, Berkeley, Palo
>Alto, Pasadena, Los Angeles, Phoenix (should be Tempe), and Tucson?

>>(2) How about from West to East?

>This one's a little dicier -- Eugene, Corvallis, Seattle, Palo Alto,
>Berkeley, Los Angeles, Pasadena, Pullman, Phoenix, and Tucson...at least I
>hope so.  :-)

>--PLH (for the SWC, it goes from west to east: Lubbock, Austin, Waco, Ft.
>Worth, Dallas, College Station, and Houston...:-)


I sure hope the bowl games start soon.  ;-)
From: mwl4879@venus.tamu.edu (Mark W. Leddy, Texas A&M)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Roll Call -- Callin' all Aggies.
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:19 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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HERE !

Class of '92 .... WHOOP !

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: randall@dap.b29.ingr.com (Randall Shepard)
Subject: Re: Best Football Names--I-A or I-AA???
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:57:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.130208.2712@vitro.com>, mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec11.204658.10966@athena.cs.uga.edu> varma@athena.cs.uga.edu
|> (Pratim Varma) writes:
|> >In article <seale.724085822@bcserv> seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
|> writes:
|> >>pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
|> >>
|> >>>A NEW THREAD!!
|> >>
|> >>>So far we have the following:
|> >>
|> >>>Orlando Hathcett--Marshall
|> >>
|> >>>Tank Conner--N. Iowa
|> >>
|> >>>Add your favorites to the list, football fans!!
|> >>
|> >>Bingo Mancillas--Texas Tech
|> >>
|> >>Byron Bam Morris--Texas Tech
|> >>
|> >>-Jeff (waitin' 'til next year) Seale
|> >>
|> >>>PDunn
|> >
|> >Mack Strong  (Fullback at Georgia)
|> >
|> 
|> Ron Reagan, Maryland Safety
|> 
Horace Morris, Tennessee Defensive Lineman  (Top that one!)
From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Pac-10 quiz
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:38:16 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division


A similar quiz of ACC cities is not much easier, especially since there
are 4 in North Carolina.  Here's a guess, from north to south:

	College Park, MD	(Maryland)
	Charlottesville, VA     (Virginia)
	Winston Salem, NC	(Wake Forest)
	Chapel Hill, NC   	(UNC)
	Raleigh, NC     	(N.C. State)
	Durham, NC		(Duke)
	Clemson, SC		(Clemson)
	Atlanta, GA		(Ga. Tech)
	Tallahassee, FL		(Florida State)


The real guesses of which are further north (without a map) are Winston Salem,
Chapel Hill, and Raleigh.

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From: rhett@utkvx2.utk.edu (Fitzsimmons, Marc)
Subject: take majors
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:44:00 GMT

This is for the Pitt fans. Take Majors away from us. please. Johnny aparently
hasn't been happy at Tennessee since last year. The press has said he stepped
out of line with alumni, he did he insulted the University two largest alumni
groups(atlanta and Knoxville chapters). But this summer he got really ripped at
a party and was loudly criticizing the administratiopn and the athletic
department. One of his teamamtes who has been a majors backer and a substantial
giver, told him to shut up and that he shouldn't discuss this in public. JM
didn't listen and lost a lot. Second he p*ssed off the owner of Goodys with his
comments at the Knoxville alumni meeting. After the price for JM's contract
buyout was announced, Goodman donated $600,000 dollars to the athletic
department. JM shot his own foot off and I think he might have done it on
purpose. He'll make close to a million dollars next year with the buyout and
his Pitt salary.
   He may do good for y'all in Piitsburg. Just keep a key to his liquor cabinet
and get a leash for him and some earplugs for your alum.
                                           RHETT
"I'm afraid it's going to make a great deal of difference to a great many
gentleman"

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Re: Ack thfppt to the fat guy!
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:56:38 GMT

In article <lJS=dhC@engin.umich.edu> hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:

>Ack thfppt to this year's Heisman Trophy winner, the fat Gina Toretta.
						      ~~~
Just curious, how much do you weigh? ;-)

>BTW, when I watched the Rose Bowl last year, one of the commentator (I think 
>he was Keith Jackson) said that Heisman Trophy winners in the past few years
>were not very lucky in the subsequent bowl games.  Specially, the team with the
>Heisman award winner used to lose in bowl game in that year.  He mentioned Ty 
>Detmer in 1990 and two other guys.  Interestingly, Michigan lost as well after
>Desmond Howard grabbed the award.

This is disturbing indeed.  The last time a UM QB won the Heisman, the 'Canes
blew a perfect season because that QB played horribly (Vinny vs. PSU in that
disgusting Fiesta Bowl).  I sure hope history doesn't repeat itseld with Gino
as the present-day Vinny and 'Bama as the present-day PSU.

Though I'll refrain from making any judgment about Gino's winning the 
Heisman, I feel obligated to mention this: Gino either has broken or
is on his way to break nearly evey record that a UM quarterback could
make -- that's significant when considering the company he must keep.

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