HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: Mr. Plow DYN (11/19/92)
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 20:01:46 GMT

In article <1eisioINN5uo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
>
>Great episode. Some of my favorite moments (the kind which I
>tend to replay in my mind hours later and STILL laugh at them):
>
>The sign at the retirement home:
>   "We thank you for not discussing the outside world"
>    (or close to that, please don't nitpik)

No, that's right. That sign has been on the home for as long as I
remember. The seniors reaction to the snow was hilarious: 

"We're not prisoners anymore. We can go anywhere we want...I'm cold
and frightened." and "..we can go outside again. Those teenagers
look mean."
>
>Barney chasing after his "costume":
>   "Come back diaper. Come back!  Oh, hi ma!
>
And DYN that he pronounced it dye-per like everyone does instead of
dye-a-per (which is corrrect). There is a local announcer here 
that pronounces it correctly and it grates.


--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
From: linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: DYN for Mr. Plow (19/11/92 USA)
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:38:47 GMT
Organization: NetCom- Cheaper than Compu$erve (isnt everything, though?)

In article <92324.214756MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Quick one that comes to mind from tonights episode:
>
>When the snow men were melting after Homer and Barnie made up, they looked
>eerily reminiscent of the Meltin' Nazi's at the end of _Raiders of the Lost
>Ark_                             ^^^^^^^^
>
>Great episode...

Agreed.
The booth for "Fourth Reich Motors" had me rolling on the floor. Gee, I wonder
which car company was being alluding to... ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!! Heil.
-- 
Bruce James Robert Linley | "Well, I tried shoving a weiner in the warp drive,
Comp Sci & Engr, UCLA     |  but it didn't do a bit o' good."
<linley@netcom.com>       | - Star Dreck, c/o Dr. Demento
<linley@seas.ucla.edu>    |
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons,soc.culture.usa
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: The Simpsons in U.S. culture?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:39:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.213103.3153@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>In alt.tv.simpsons, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>The chief cause of this difference is that George Bush is a moron.
>There have been a variety of occasions in which various top governmental people
>in the U.S.A. have shown their inability to distinguish fantasy from reality.
>But of course their foreign policy as well as their domestic policies are
>evidence that they have this problem anyway.
>
>Capable leaders don't spend their time making public statements about fictional
>characters.

Boy what a sweeping statement.  I would say that it is a bit unprofessional,
but wouldn't condemn the leader so quickly to 'incompetant.'  If that would
be the whole character of the administration though....

>
>Actually, George Bush said that a typical American family SHOULDN'T be like the
>Simpsons, which implies that he believes that it in fact is like the Simpsons.
>Basically he feels that The Simpsons, by showing it like it is, is presenting
>information harmful to American culture, which ideally should be founded upon
>ignorance and superstition.

Which shows just how out of touch the man was of 'typical American families.'
I find the Simpsons funny because it is such an 'anti-utopian' family.

>
>>I heard that the new president strongly supports police forces.
>
>Woo,... to touch this one on the American-dominated net requires a little ol'
>rot13.  I hereby only license non-Americans to decrypt the following two lines.
>For any others to do so shall void all warranties, express or implied:
>
>Zbfg crbcyr va gur H.F.N. ner fgebatyl, anl enovqyl va fhccbeg bs cbyvpr
>sbeprf.  Vg'f n irel fpnel xvaq bs yngrag snfpvfz va gurve phygher.

Actually I don't find it quite that strong where I live, but the strong
patriotism everywhere, a feeling of "we don't want to take this crap"
attitudes (causing the rallying around police in many cases), and a
constitutionally guaranteed right to firearms might make observers to
'Merican culture come to that conclusion.  The fact you encrypted it shows
that you are at least aware of the horror that an American would react
to those observations...:)  [though I must disagree - watching news !=
understanding American Culture...sorry...]
-- 
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| Brent L. Irvine         |These opinions are the opinions of the majority of |
| irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu | space aliens currently in residence in the USA.   |
+-------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
From: gpkatch@alcor.concordia.ca (Gary Katch)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: I Can't Believe It's...
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:51:45 GMT
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Eric D. Shepherd writes:
> ...
>Heck, there's a product in the U.S. called "I Can't Believe it's not
>Butter".

Probably as far back as the late sixties, Playtex marketed a
product called the I-Can't-Believe-It's-a-Girdle girdle.  I think
that predates the margarine by a fair bit.

My favourite product reference on the show was to a hair product
called "Gee, your hair smells terrific!"  The TV ads would
typically feature the product-user in some close situation
(subway, elevator, etc.) with the handsome stranger who would
impulsively utter the phrase in question.

In the episode where one of Marge's sisters is preparing to go out
on her first date in years, the 40-ish sister is applying a
depilatory cream to her upper lip.  The product is called "Gee,
your lip looks hairless!"

-- gk
From: zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Grabowski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Pamela Reed
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:39:22 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

KitchenRN@ssd0.laafb.af.mil wrote:
: In the credits for "Bart Falls in Love" (that WAS the title, right?), the 
: name of Pamela Reed was listed.  Presumably, she was the voice of Laura's 
: mother.
: 
: Who is Pamela Reed?


Let's not forget the role of Mrs. Gordon Cooper ("Smile, honey") in The Right
Stuff.

John
From: 2huwbeach@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Parsecs
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:24:14 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


In reference to the parsec argument:

Michael Zeilik's textbook 'Astronomy' states,


Parsec: The distance an object would have to be from the Earth
        so that its heliocentric parallex would be 1 second
	of arc; equal to 3.26 light years.

		Matt Rose
		Univ of Kansas
		Remote Sensing Lab

--An ardent Apu fan-- "Microwave burritos and blueberry squishies forever"
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: 11/12 Episode
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:05:52 GMT

Re: "wedgie"

That's the term for it where _I_ come from...

- Eric S.

--
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart)
Subject: Re: Simpsons in comercials
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:44:27 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <BxtJxr.Iv8@DMI.USherb.CA>, moric00@DMI.USherb.CA (Chris) writes:
|> I've just seen a other ad with the Simpsons. This time It's Bart in a
|> karate class fighting for a 'ButterFinger' chocolat bar. (very funny)
|> 
|> I suppose it is shown only in Canada. Is there a reason why those ads
|> (Corola & ButterFinger) are not shown in the Continental US?
   What makes you believe they are not?  There have been about 5 
Butterfinger adds shown in the US, and 1 for Butterfinger ice cream 
nuggets.  We probably don't get the Corola adds because no one has
ever heard of it....

-- 
Jeff Ehrhart
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: Why producers would never admit to reading this newsgroup
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:42:36 GMT

	Some people said they performed an experiment to see if somone who 
helped make "The Simpsons" read the newsgroup and had some success.  Then it 
was asked "Why don't say they read it?"
	The following is based on personal expereince from being on a mailing 
list for a certain cartoon series where the producer actually appeared.

1.  All of a sudden you are going to get people on here saying how much they
    love the show, and beg to have some reference made to themselves in the  
    show ("Oh please, name a character/street/park/bridge/rock after me")

2.  People are going to beg for jobs and make lots of suggestions for the 
    show which cannot really be used because of legal/contractual/guild
    problems.  Then if they were on, and some person suggested and idea as an 
    off-the-cuff remark, AND IT COINCIDENTALLY APPESRS LATER; the poster is 
    going to claim they were ripped off, even if the idea in question was
    thought up months before

3.  Having the producers on-line will attract the flamers who will come on and 
    argue why the simpsons suck; and others who want to pick apart every single
    word of every episode.  Perhaps even a couple of grad students wanting to 
    do some dissertation on OFF

4.  The usual begging for "inside" information they can impress freinds and 
    co-workers with

	A lot of this happened on that mailing list and for a good couple of 
months everyone acted really immature.  Now the producer in question reads a 
lot but rarely gets on to talk anymore.  I would rather just let the newsgroup 
go on as it always has; if they are reading--great!  If they are not, ohwell.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: We miss you Raymond Chen!
From: DAVIS@licre.dn.mu.oz.au
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:22:44 AET
Organization: Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research

In article <1992Nov9.170059.9990@athena.mit.edu>, rcharbon@athena.mit.edu 
(Ray Charbonneau) writes:

> We all watched the same show.

Would 'twer so....

> Boy, am I getting old and grumpy!

Me too!  At least we are still getting repeats, better than nothing, but you 
people are always way ahead of those of us up here on the top of the world.

Ian Davis                              DAVIS@licr.dn.mu.oz.au
Melbourne, Australia.
From: syracurg@lp.musc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: Barney's diaper
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:23:49 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


     Nice to know that MG is environmentally correct in having Barney
   wear cloth instead of disposable.
mjs
From: eapg070@orion.oac.uci.edu (Caroll Elke Pohl)
Subject: Re: Milhaus Senior???
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:37:07 GMT

In article <1e94agINN2b3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj835@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Connors) writes:
>
>DYN that the attorney representing the so-called Captain who ran
>the so-called all-you-can-eatery in Homer's recent lawsuit
>looked an awful lot like Bart's sometime best friend Milhaus?
>Someone with the episode on tape can double-check my recollection, and someone with a

if you remember the episode where Milhouse has a girlfriend, (its exact title
escapes me at the moment) you'll recall the one scene containing a character
who can unequivocally be said to be Milhouse Sr. it's the scene where Mr. &
Mrs. whatever-their-name-is enter the room to discover Bart and Milhouse
wrestling etc.

the character here i think is easily distinguishable from the lawyer (who
we have seen several times before, usually working for Burns).
Milhouse's dad has a roundish face like Milhouse while the lawyer has a very
narrow head.

in addition, their voices are quite different.

-Caroll

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Elvis on a dollar bill???
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:53:23 GMT

	Did anyone else notice that when Homer first started making money, he
was holding a stack of bills, flipping them, and one of the bills said Elvis? 
Can someone with a pause on their VCR check that- it went by really quickly,
but I swear I saw it...
					lisa
					lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: chacala@vcd.hp.com (Chuck Hacala)
Subject: Reference to Raiders of Lost Ark
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:46:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Did anyone notice the reference to "Raiders of the Lost Ark" in the
"Mr. Plow" episode.  When God made the season turn instantly to Summer,
the melting snowmen scene looked just like the scene in "Raiders of the
Lost Ark" when the Ark was opened and the guy's face melted away.  The 
snowman's face turned into a skull as it melted.

-Chuck

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: Another Godfather reference?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:16:46 GMT

In article <1ej7nlINNdp2@uwm.edu> sperry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Joseph Sperry) writes:
>
>O.K., I'll just say that this *may* be a reference, or maybe I've just 
>watched The Godfather many too many times...
>
	{ stuff deleted }
>
>At that moment, kids pop up from both sides and rapid-fire Bart w/ snowballs.
>Bart contorts, goes "A-a-a-a-a-h"  and collapses and then one kid comes
>and gives him one last snowball in the face.
>
>Now compare this to when Sonny Corleone was murdered by Barzyni's (sp?)
>thugs on the causeway.

	Rather, compare it to the death scene in Bonnie and Clyde.  Since
	Bart had been posing in front of the Bonnie and Clyde car earlier,
	I think that the snowball death scene harkened to that movie(?).
>
>They pop up and machine gun him, he contorts just as Bart did, goes 
>"A-a-a-a-a-h", and collapses... Then one of the thugs comes and kicks
>him in the face...
	Actually, the thug hit him in the head with a snowball.  This I
	though was meant to remind one of the LA riots (I rememvber a
	particularly violent scene played frequently on TV where a thug
	throws a brick at the motorist).  Just 2cents worth.

>

Jeremy

-- 
  (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
  |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
  \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
   `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75
From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Simpsons in U.S. culture?
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:02:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1ec6lfINNm75@cs.widener.edu> tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:

>The Waltons was an incredibly sappy "life affirming"  drama series
>There was a whole lot of children and they were always happy
>and always solved their problems by the end of the episode.
>Completely unrealisitic.  (I'm sorry if there are Waltons fans in
>this group, but I just couldn't stomach that show.)

You forgot the fact that it was set in *the Great Depression*!!
Kind of an ironic reference considering that George can't even say the 'R'
word!

Or as Jay Leno put it "Say what you will about Homer Simpson but at least
he has a job, owns his own house, and didn't have more kids than he could
feed!"

				James Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz)
Subject: FAQ
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:25:29 GMT

Anyone have a copy of the FAQ?
I've been reading this group for a while and have yet to see one posted.
Please post it or email it to me.
Thanks a lot!

Jonathan
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: WooHoo!  the BATDANCE! (Re: DYN for Mr. Plow (19/11/92 USA))
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:59:28 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	Wow!  I remember when I was younger, me and my friends would go out to
bars and try to pick up broads by going out on the floor and doing the
_Batdance_, and they thought we were total lunatix!  Aah, I was on the floor
doing the asthma-hound chihuahua (ie: laughing so hard your trachea locks up
and you want to pry it open with a kitchen knife so it never closes ever
again) for five minutes!  Still gives me chills!  
	DYN (weak): the Batmobile was the big thing in the Auto show circuit a
couple years back, you wouldn't know this if you didn't care about cars.  I
saw it at the Javits center.  whee.  The vector w8 was much (BIFFSTER!!@!1!
on) K00LER!!!!!!111!1 (B1FFSTER off)
	all in all, a way xlnt episode, in every way!

-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Simpsons Moderated Group?
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:42:52 GMT

It doesn't seem likely to happen, but I'd love it if alt.tv.simpsons itself
became a moderated group, and I'd be happy to do the moderation.  I'd find it
fun, and I have a feeling that the dramatically decreased traffic which would
result would substantially pay me back for the time investment.  (The traffic
would decrease because questions such as "what is the price charged for Maggie"
would not be let through (the moderator could just send them a copy of the
faq), and thus we'd avoid a followup with an incorrect price and ten followups
to the followup with various prices, and so on.  Also, the moderator could
pre-empt discussion, like in the recent article about Milhouse/Milhaus, s/he
could insert an editor's note that the official spelling is Milhouse and thus
avoid followups on that score.  Thus by rejecting only flames and faqs, and
judiciously inserting clarifying notes, the traffic would be reduced
substantially without really compromising the level of discussion.)

If I'm elected moderator, people such as Chris Baird would receive permission
to post things like episode summaries etc directly.

Just a pipe dream.

The utility of having a moderated subgroup would be limited.  alt.tv.simpsons
itself would receive more traffic, and many people such as myself would feel we
still want to read both, and would cross-post articles, and they'd generate
more followups in alt.tv.simpsons itself, and eventually the use of the
moderated group would decline and vanish.
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Simpsons in U.S. culture?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 12:45:54 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov14.180528.19002@nntp.hut.fi>,
jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>
>I remember George Bush said that a typical U.S. family is not like the
>Simpsons family

  Actually, the FORMER President said that American families should
be "a lot more like The Waltons and a lot less like The Simpsons".

  Of course, The Waltons were Democrats.

>it seems it must be an important part of U.S.
>culture when the president of the country refers to it in speeches.

  Not really.  This way, he doesn't have to mention the budget deficit,
the trade deficit, the national debt, the unemployment, Irangate, Iraqgate,
his *own* family (i.e. Silverado Savings and Loan and his crooked son),
AIDS, the "inner cities" (a.k.a. the ghetto), health care, education, the
environment, etc.

>I don't think I've ever heard the Finnish president to refer to TV
>programs in his speeches.

  You don't know what you're missing.

  -- Mark

"But we *are* like The Waltons: we're praying for an end to the
depression, too." - Bart Simpson.

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu
Subject: Re: Mr. Plow ad 2 reference?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 13:09:48 EDT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Nov20.210323.8536@news.columbia.edu>
tl24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby) writes:
 
>
>
>Here's a reference for ya.  In the second Mr. Plow ad (the artsy one), a man
>drops a snow shaker paperweight (you know those things you shake and it snows?)
>to me this is a reference to Citizen Kane, where Kane drops one of those when
>he dies at the beginning.  Anyone else catch this one?
>
 
Hmmm... I thought about this when I watched it and wondered if it was
a Kane reference, but I think it was probably something else. True,
Kane drops a snow-shaker-thing when he dies, but the one in this
episode was thrown to the ground and shattered. Methinks it's a reference
... but to what?
 
Kyle C Schiebel
From: hapa@ucsco.ucsc.edu (Doug Easterly)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Springfield, Illinois
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:32:40 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsco.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Nov23.175656.3828@athena.mit.edu> brian@mtl.mit.edu (brian foley) writes:
>
>
>I hate to burst the bubble of all the 'Illinois theorists', but if you go
>
>back and watch the 'Mister Plow' episode you'll see that the Senator who
>
>is transfering ownership of the key to the city is none other than Ted
>
>"where's my pants" Kennedy. 
>Brian 'further fodder for the fire' Foley

BZZT! Wrong answer. That was no Senator, that was Mayor Quimby,
long standing Simpsons minor character.

Yes, he does have a Ted Kennedy kinda voice, but that was not him.

(Oddly enough, I don't remember if he declared it any special
"Day" the way he usually declares a day in the honor of anything that
happens....)

Back to sleep^H^H^H^H^H work,

Doug

-- 
Sandra's seen a leprechaun,	   Donald heard a mermaid sing,
Eddie touched a troll,		   Susy spied an elf,
Laurie danced with witches once,   But all the magic I have known
Charlie found some goblins' gold.  I've had to make myself.
			-Shel Silverstein
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: gerry@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac)
Subject: Re: Yeardley Smith and Hank Azaria
Organization: Dialogic Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:14:00 GMT

In article <1ebn1mINNj67@cs.widener.edu> KitchenRN@ssd0.laafb.af.mil writes:
>
>BTW, what other shows have Yeardley Smith and Hank Azaria done?  Not 
>necessarily together.

Yeardley had a small part at the very beginning and the very end of 
"3 O'clock High".
From: syracurg@lp.musc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: In the Navy (Village P)
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:21:36 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


     Was The Village People really a "gay (male) disco band", or was
   that just a part of their act.  I never knew that.
   mjs