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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Valiant for sale
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 07:27:29 GMT

Here's my asking prices.  Best reasonable offer by this time next week gets
them.

Solar #10 (1st print)		$30.00
Magnus #12			$30.00
Magnus #1			$20.00
Magnus #2			$15.00
Magnus #3			$12.00
Magnus #4			$12.00

I also have a number of Harbinger TPBs available (1st prints, including #0).
I'm willing to take offers.

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Scowling Jim Cowling, Professional Evil Person
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)

GEnie:  J.COWLING	Internet:  jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA
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From: burks@iflluki.Corp.Sun.COM (Stephanie Burks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Trade Superman 18
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:59:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: burks@iflluki.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: iflluki.corp.sun.com


I am looking to trade a Superman: Man of Steel #18 for a Justice League America #69.

Anyone Interested send e-mail to:

stephanie.burks@Corp.Sun.COM


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From: schmid@curie.math.rpi.edu (David Anthony Schmidt)
Subject: Comic Collectors/Investors etc.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:11:46 GMT

I was just reading the final issue of the excellent mag Comic Book Marketplace
last night when some thoughts occurred to me. Always in this newsgroup
arguments seem to break down along the following lines: Investors/speculators
(who don't read comics and are in it solely for the money) and self-proclaimed
readers (who claim they are in it because they love to read comics and mock
those who are picky about grading).

This is a false dichotomy for many collectors, because
it ignores the possibility that one could be a reader, while still enjoying
the COLLECTING aspects of the hobby (hunting down hard to find issues in high 
grade, at bargain prices etc., which is one of the aspects I enjoy most).

Many of the readers seem to make comments like "I am a reader not a speculator,
so my books are not in high grade", as if wanting high grade books makes you
a fanboy or something. This is nonsense. I think part of the reason for this
problem is that people who only collect recent books don't understand what a
rare book really is. Someone had the nerve to tell me that Amazing Spiderman
289 is hard to find. Hah! It's not even hard to find in high grade at a 
reasonable price. I could find 25 instances of this book for sale in NM at
below guide in one day if I tried.  McFarlane hard to find? When I wanted those
Spideys that I had missed it was only a question of finding someone who would
trade and had them in high grade.  This took about a day.

Try finding Flash Comics 104 or Captain America's Weird Tales in high grade
(VF or up) some time. It will be a good lesson for people in this group who
talk about post 1980's Marvels being hard to find.

By the way, why are there so few collectors of Golden and Silver Age on this
net? I have found about 4 people here in the last year who are even Silver
Age collectors, and about 1 Golden Age enthusiast.  You don't have to be
able to afford these books to be interested in their history and content.
Same thing in R.A.C.misc; there are 198 discussions about Sandman and Cerebus
for every discussion about vintage comics. (No cut to either of the above 
books, which are both great; the lack of balance is just curious to me.)

And now CBM has ceased publication. :^(

Too bad.

					-Dave

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From: msibbern@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Sibbernsen)
Subject: SILVER FOR SALE!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 04:44:12 GMT


Some Silver For Sale

(These comics have been strictly graded as outlined in the CVM)
Amazing Spiderman #4 VG  $210
Conan the Barbarian #2 F  $35
The Defenders       #1 F  $30.
Fantastic Four      #48 G $70
Fantastic Four     #112 G $15
Iron Man & Sub-M   #1 G   $40
Marvel Feature (Def)#1 VG $15
Metamorpho        #1 VG   $25
X-men             #95 VF  $38

If you are interested in any of the above comics please Email me
(msibbern@nyx.cs.du.edu).  Comics will be sold first come first serve.
If you indicate that you do wish to purchase, I will Email you telling you
if the comic(s) has been purchased.  If it has not, I will give you the
address to send the purchase amount plus S&H (no more than $4 in US).  If
you are not satisfied I will return your money.


Thank you
Michael Sibbernsen
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy 1-7 for saletrade
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:58:27 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

I have Guardians of the Galaxy issues 1 to 7 which I wish
to sell or trade. I am interested in trading for Next Men
or Savage Dragon plus many others which I can't think of
at the moment. Reply if interested. Note that I am in 
Australia so postage will be more than usual.

Jed
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From: tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Death of Superman
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:41:20 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

	This is probably a FAQ by now, and antique news, BUT...


	How much does the Death of Superman 1st printing go for?
	
	PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR RESPONSES....THANKS!

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From: z_coolidgejs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: CRAP FOR SALE!!!  (Transformers, too)
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:24:51 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

                   CRAP FOR SALE (plus the occasional something
                            worth something)

Aircel:
       Dragonring #1
Comico:
       Robotech: The New Generation #3
        (based on TV episodes of Invid invasion--Mospedia + protoculture)
Eclipse:
       Tales of Terror #12
DC:
       Star Trek: TNG #2 of 6 issue "limited series" (this is worth something)
       V #1
       Batman: Gotham Nights #1 (of 4)
       Firestorm #93

Marvel: ("M" means reprint, with M shaped area for comic issue number)
       2010 #1 and #2 (of 2)
       Moon Knight (1989 version) #6
       Firestar #2M (of 4)
       X-Factor #18 (Phoenix, again?)
   The New Universe (Greatest thing ever to happen, huh?):
       Star Brand #1M, 8
       Justice #1M
       Psi Force #1
       Nightmask #1M, 9
   Transformers: #1, 2M, 3M, 4M, 6, 13, 15, 20, 23, 24, 29, 30, 31, 38, 39, 40,
           41, 42, 50
       The Movie: #1, 2 (of 3)
       G.I. Joe & The Trans: #1, 2, 3 (of 4)
       "Collected Comics" #5 (some weird, magazine sized thing that attempts to
           reconsile the plot difference between the comics and the TV cartoon)

Transformers #1 has a pretty wrinkled cover, but is still readable and isn't
torn.  The others vary in shape from pretty nice to I bought it and read it
once.  I'll take offers on any one of them, or the whole lot goes for $25.  If
you buy the whole lot, heck, I'll pay the postage.

While I'm in the area, I have some old Transformers toys to sell.
     Camshaft and Overdrive (special ordered, no tech specs), Technobots (all
five, form Computron), Combaticons (all five, form Bruticus), Constructicons
(all six, form Devistator), Misfire (includes tiny, transforming gun), Inferno,
and Pipes.

     Also availible: Soundwave with head broken off but included, along with
Buzzsaw.  Skywarp with chip in left wing missile holder (still holds missile
launcher, though.)  Starscream and Dirge, both in good shape.

     And also availible, but only for a really good offer: THE Optimus Prime
(no Powerdweeb attatchments), Megatron, and Jetfire (or Skyfire if you prefer.)
One of Jetfire's armour pieces lost its tabs and is held on with poster hanging
goo instead, and he does not have the Autobot symbol over his private parts. 
Megatron is missing his Decepticon symbols, but looks more like a real gun as a
result.

I will take offers on any one or several transformers.  All of them include
instruction booklets (except Pipes, who is a minicar) and tech specs (except
the two Omnibots specially ordered).  I did not save the boxes or the tech spec
decoders (the little red rectangles that clutter your room, that you don't
really need to read the tech specs anyway).

My ears are raised, make offers!
--Jon,        Z_COOLIDGEJS@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU

Organization: Computer Repair, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: gatsby@wam.umd.edu (Ravindra Pillalamarri)
Subject: Hmm (for sale)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:54:05 GMT

	Ok, I got this Marvel Age #181 polybagged with a sample Marvel 
Masterworks card.  The card is the Hulk (one of the best ones, I thought)
the comic and card are still sealed in the bag, and needless to say, I'm trying
to get rid of them.  Any takers?

Ravi Pillalamarri
gatsby@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Valiants (X-O and Rai) wanted
From: harres@sundance.uwyo.edu (John M. Harres)
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:03:05
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.marketplace,world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, Wyoming

I am looking for the following Valiant issues:

Rai 4
X-O Manowar 2

Anyone interested in selling these issues, please send me email.
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From: jerro@wuntvor.pillar.com (Jerry Hanna)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Bagged Comics
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 18:28:38 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

Hi, I have questions, possibly FAQ, concerning the growing number of 
comics being packaged in bags. 
 
1) Should I leave these bagged books unopened?
 
2) If the bags are opened what does this do to the value of the book?
 
3) I have heard that the bags are not fit for long term storage and will
damage the book over an extended period of time. Is this true?
 
4) Should I decide to do so, is there a preferred method of opening?
 
If these issues have already been beat to death I apologize....

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The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK -- +1 405 447 3772
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: hinrichs@next.santafe.edu (bRant Hinrichs)
Subject: Re: Comic Collectors/Investors etc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:15:24 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute
Distribution: na

In article <1993Jan7.212318.20173@bnr.ca> dmei@monterey.UUCP (Dan Mei)  
writes:
> In article <C0I025.2wK@ecf.toronto.edu>, kamg@ecf.toronto.edu (KAM  
GREGORY K) writes:
> |> Hey, I'm a Silver Age enthusiast!!!
> |> 
> |> (Golden Age is too rich for my blood)
> |> 
> |> Let's start a newsgroup:  rec.arts.comics.vintage!!!
> |> 
> |> Greg
> |> 
> 
> Don't be fooled!  There is alot of premium Golden Age stuff that is
> cheaper than Silver Age.  Just try comparing alot of the Marvel titles
> from the early sixties to some books from the mid to late forties
> (eg. Timelys like All Winners or Human Torch...just to name a couple)
> 
> I personally would love to see a news group that is geared towards
> Silver and Golden Ages collectors.  It would be fun to buy/sell/trade
> these types of books and discuss their importance, rather than having
> to read postings on the highest bid for a Harbinger #0.
> 
> I grew up in the Silver Age so it's pretty hard to get excited about
> all the multiple printings and gimmicks used to sell comics these days.
> It's fun trying to locate the truly RARE books.
> 
> Any other Silver/Gold collectors out there?
> 
> Dan


hi there,

in the past 5 years i've been making an effort to get some of my
favorite Silver/Gold comics before they become totally beyond my
price range.  i've pretty much found lots of what i wanted and so
have petered off in the last year or two.

now i focus mainly on favorite artists/writers and the more obscure
stuff they did outside their main title work.  an example is my
all time favorite ARTIST Steve Ditko.  while popular for such well
known books as Amazing Spiderman (1-39) and the initial runs of
Dr. Strange (strange tales #110-142) he did alot of smaller work for
Timely and Charlton in the 40's and 50's.  it is a great pleasure for
me to discover some book i didn't know he had contributed to and find
that it is even sometimes in my price range.  there was a great comic
store in Madison, Wi where the owner was also a huge Ditko fan.  on
the rare times when i was in Madison (once every 3 months) he occasionally
had some Ditko stuff i hadn't known of and (i think) often gave me a
good deal price wise perhaps because he knew i was a big fan and not
too much into investing.  

the other thing i've gotten into lately is to look for Gold Age stuff
that i think has really neat covers.  the photo journal guide to comics
from Gerber helps a bunch in identifying titles and book #'s for just
such a search.  so i look for what i think is cool cover art (not that
i don't read the books, but my main interest is in the art).



bRant
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: DARK EMPIRE #1-6 1st printings for sale
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:23:59 GMT

I have the whole STAR WARS DARK EMPIRE series, issues 1-6, all 
first printings, and all in mint condition for sale.
 
Make me an offer via e-mail if you're interested.
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From: rutled@bnr.ca (Philip Rutledge)
Subject: Wanted:  BONE #6
Reply-To: rutled@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:49:46 GMT

Bone #6 was released sometime around the beginning of December and
quickly sold out in my area.  I've spent the last month searching for
copies in my area with no luck.

If anyone has a copy (or copies, I have a friend who also wants one) to
sell please e-mail me.

Thanks,
Phil
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"Stupid, Stupid rat creatures!!" -- Fone Bone                   Bone #2
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From: stantbat@iastate.edu (John S Sinnott)
Subject: Re: Comic Collectors/Investors etc.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:26:06 GMT

Great!! Other Gold/Silver age fans!  

I mainly buy Silver-age books, and I haven't seen too much discussion on the
net about them.  With the prices shooting up every day it seems, and high-
grade books (mainly what I collect) being hard to find, I've just started
looking at Golden Age material and obscure 70's stuff myself.  Gerber's
Photo-Journal Guides are invaluable for a starting Golden Age collector like 
myself.  I'm not trying to get all of Captain Marvel's app.'s, but I'd like
one high grade copy of Whiz with a neat cover...hence the guide let's me 
know what I should look for. 

I'm sort of suprised at how cheap comics for the late 40's and 50's are.  
I've purchased vfn copies of books ifrom this ear for no more than $35.00.
You can't get any of the fist 50 issues of Amazing Spiderman for that much.

As for a possible disscussion thread, what gold/silver books do you fellow
old stuff fans think are still resonably priced.  (NOTE:  I do not mean 
good investment material.  I'm refering to issues that have minor stars but
a good story, or obscure works by bifg names etc.)  

I still think the C. C. Beck issues of DC's SHAZAM are worth picking up in 
$0.50 boxes.  The stories aren't that great, but you do get a feel for 
Beck's art.  The 100 page giants in the SHAZAM series are also good deals,
most if not all have golden age reprints.

Charlton's are also a good deal when you can find them.  I picked up 8 out
of the 10 (I beleive) issues of E-Man (original series) in nm for $1.00 each.
(including #1.)  I realize guide is a bit higher than that, but the guy I
bought them from said he couldn't move them at a buck.

That's all I can think of right now, when I think of more titles, I'll post 
them if anyone is interested.

-John Sinnott



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From: wesselak@sunc0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak)
Subject: Re: LOTS O' COMICS For Sale Pt. 1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:09:35 GMT

dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>You were going to lower your price but you didn't because the update showed
>a substantial drop in prices?  Isn't that backwards?

No, because if I lowered my rate then I'd lose even more money.

>My own attempts to sell comics for significantly less met with only
>partial success.  An important distinction needs to be made between
>comics that have a real value and those that do not:  Most mainstream
>80s and 90s comics have no real value.  You can find them in the $0.50
>bins if you look patiently, and you'll have to beg a dealer to take
>them from you at any price.  The guide shows these comics at roughly
>cover price because that's the price dealers charge for them -- even
>though they may have to sit in the boxes a long long time before a
>buyer comes along.  The market for these comics is exceedingly thin,
>though, and virtually everyone who wants a copy already has one.

>This raises another problem -- selling comics as sets.  Sellers prefer
>to sell entire sets, rather than have buyers "cherry pick" their
>collections.  Buyers, on the other hand, just want to fill the holes in
>their collections, or just want comics they'll be able to resell at
>a profit.  In neither case are you going to get many customers for
>a set priced a little below guide.

>In short, the comics you'd expect to be able to move at 4/5 guide are
>the relatively hard-to-find comics -- and the genuinely hot ones.
>Remember, the Overstreet Price Guide gives the prices *dealers* charge.

I'm not asking anyone to buy anything they don't want, nor do I expect all of
my comics to sell.  For the last year or two, I have been buying very few
comics, so I don't have a real good idea of what's "hot", other than what I
see in Overstreet.  So I'm offering all the comics I want to sell at a constant
fraction of the Overstreet price, which I'm assuming is an accurate reflection
of the value.

Erik
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From: lbaum@bronte.boeing.com (Larry Baum)
Subject: CARDS: Holograms and prisms to trade
Organization: Boeing Computer Services R&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:34:26 GMT


I need the following holograms and specialty cards:

Comic Ball 3: Yosemite
Comic Ball 4: Yosemite, Taz, Wiley

Doomsday: S1, S2, S3, F1

Mad: A.E.Newman (not the one with Clinton/Bush), Spy vs Spy

I can supply: 

Comic Ball 2: Sylvester, Speedy, Monster
Comic Ball 3: Taz, Chuck Jones
Comic Ball 4: Daffy(1/4) Porky/Bugs, Daffy

DC Cosmic: any

Marvel 2: H-1
Marvel 3: H-4(2 available)
Hildebrandt: P4
Garfield: H5
Spidey prisms: P1, P5-P12


-- 
Larry Baum
Computer Science Organization
Boeing Computer Services     uucp:       uw-beaver!bcsaic!lbaum
(206) 865-3365               internet:   lbaum@atc.boeing.com       
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From: wsm26@cas.org (Wayne Mills)
Subject: Re: Bagged Comics
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:45:54 GMT

One plus for Wizard -- they have a writer who has more than once encouraged
collectors to pop open the bags and just read the darn things.  That's the
right attitude.

If you're just hoping to keep the comic a couple years and re-sell it for
a profit, keep it in the bag.  If you're going to keep it until you retire,
the bag will probably have permanently adhered to the comic by then,
so I'd remove it.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: wesselak@sunc0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak)
Subject: Re: LOTS O' COMICS For Sale Pt. 1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:29:44 GMT

dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>wesselak@sunc0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak):
>>The prices marked are 4/5 Overstreet as of the Jan/Feb update.  From
>>what I've seen on this newsgroup, I think that's pretty fair... I prefer 
>>to sell in sets...

>Your prices are fair.  But I'll be surprised if you sell many of
>your comics at those prices.  Please let us know if I'm wrong.

Originally I priced my comics from the Nov/Dec Overstreet.  I was considering
going lower than 4/5, but then the Jan/Feb update came out and showed a sub-
stantial drop in many of the more valuable DC comics that I am selling.  Any-
one else out there notice this?  So anyway, considering the new prices in the
Update, I decided to stick with 4/5.  Why don't you think they will sell at
that rate?

Erik
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| "'Who did YOU sleep with to reach   | "There's been some      __| /  |__    |
| the top of the food chain!?!'"      |  trouble in London"     __|<  /|__    |
|  --Leonard the Roach,               |                           | \/ |      |
| Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children |  Erik: wesselak@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu   |