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From: mark@kraken.ucsd.edu (Mark Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Staying out of jail
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:00:24 GMT
Organization: W.A.S.T.E.

In article <1993Jan24.052540.6852@fuug.fi> an7919@anon.penet.fi writes:
>You are not a lawyer, and you don't understand how the legal system  
>works, regardless what grade you got in sophomore Poli. Sci 202. You  
>are in no position to make deals or decisions. Don't do or say  
>anything before talking to a lawyer. 

While certainly not suggesting you talk without a lawyer, there
are degrees of ignorance about the how the legal system does
work.  I might suggest learning more, but then I'm not sure
if "Knowlege is power" or "A little knowledge is a dangerous 
thing".

Still this book I saw mentioned in the lastest issue of 
Whole Earth Review (#77 W92, p. 46) seemed tantalizing.

The book is called 
	Introduction to Criminal Evidence
	Jon R. Waltz, 1991, 460 pp.
	$38.95 ($42.95 postpaid) from Nelson-
	Hall/Order Dept.  111 N. Canal Street,
	Chicago, IL 60606; 312/930-9466


From the review, [from the book]
 * The Impact of Miranda
  In _Miranda_ the Supreme Court said, "[I]t is
  impermissible to penalize an individual for excising
  his Fifth Amendment privilege whe he is under police
  custodial interrogation.  The prosecution may not, 
  therefore, use at trial the fact that he stood mute
  or claimed his privilege in the face of accusation."

  However, the procecution is free to introduce evidence
  of an accused's post-arrest silence to challenge his
  insistence at trial the he cooperated with the authorities
  at the scene of his arrest.

and

 * Reaction to Accusation
  An adoptive or implied confession may occur when an
  unmistakably accusatory statement is made in the 
  suspect's hearing and he either remains silent, which
  creates an inference that he adopts the accusation as 
  true, or make an equivocal response instead of a strong 
  denial that would normally be expected from an innocent 
  person.


What can be used in court and what may lead the police to
have a keen interest in you are two diffent things.

mark
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:43:35 -0500 
From: "Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Psilocybe cultivation and sterility


>Every post I see about growing shrooms includes a sterile growing
>medium.  Well, where do  
>they grow in the wild?  In used hay!  (That's cow shit.)  This is
hardly a >sterile medium.   
>So, is making ONLY psilocybes grow the only reason for sterility? 
>Assuming that one is  
>capable of recognizing what's shroom and what's not, is there any need
>for the sterile  
>environment?

Although I've never grown anything before, I thought about this also.  I
think one consideration is, a lot of people are starting with a single
spore print to innoculate a large volume of medium.  This means, you
want to innoculate with very few spores.  If there's nothing else to
crowd out these spores, it would be a lot easier for them to get a
foothold in the medium than if the medium were crawling with other
little fugly buglies.  After the medium is rich with the growth of the
proper fungus, I'm sure you could "transplant" (I'm not sure what the
term is...) it to other, non-sterile medium.
Also, yes, you can tell what's shroom and what's not, but what if
something is growing on your shroom which will kill you?  Or, what if
another similar but very deadly shroom grows instead?
I don't _know_ anything, I'm just speculating...
I have heard many people complain of getting no results even if they do
use sterile medium though, so I'm not sure of anything anymore...

-me
From: dfoster@cs.utk.edu (D. Slade Foster)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: rush?
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:09:42 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
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In article <1993Jan23.183408.717@black.clarku.edu> sklejmon@black.clarku.edu (Shawn D Klejmont) writes:
>	Forgive me for possible redundancy, I haven't read this group for
>a while.  Can anyone offer some info about this substance?  It's a liquid 
>inhalent that smells like model glue, called "rush" around here. Anyone?
>
>thanks,
>shawn


From what I understand, "rush" is illegal in all 50 states now.  I
know that it is impossible to find, anyways.  Try ethyl...it can be
found at most adult book stores, etc. but its effects are better,
and more intense.  Spray it on your sleeve, be the life of parties.
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From: civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: morphine/heroin question
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:00:21 GMT

In article <szikopou.728152891@cunews>, szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:
> In <9301271452.AA00669@hdsc-calm.ssc.af.mil.hdsc.ssc.af.mil> ccarroll@hdsc-calm.ssc.af.mil (Chris Carroll) writes:
> 
> 
>>Could someone email me with info or stats concerning morphine?
> 
>>Are morphine and heroin the same thing, what are the differences,
>>similarities, etc.
> 
>>Thanx, 
>>cHris
> 
> They both fall under the same class of drugs--they are both opiod
> agonists.
> 
> I believe heroin is more powerful than morphine because it can enter
> the brain more easiy than morphine and actually get metabolized into
> morhpine (not sure about the last one...I may be thinking of codiene
> which falls under the same class)
-- 
Heroin is  derived from morphine. It is di-acetyl morphine and was first
synthesized in the 1870's and marketed by Bauer in the 1890's.
Morphine is extracted from opium (as is codeine) which is obtained from the
opium poppy.
Heroin is supposed to be several times more powerful as an analgesic than 
morphine (3 times or more) but it becomes morphine once it is in the body
so its action is similar.


Brandon Hutchison,University of Canterbury,Christchurch
                  New Zealand

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.tasteless,alt.conspiracy,rec.pyrotechnics
From: gsh@iti.org (Gregory S. Halbrook)
Subject: Re: The Anarchist Cookbook
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:01:45 GMT

julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:

>In article <1993Jan27.015154.6588@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>about Anarchists cookbook:
>>
>>It's a stupid book, however, full of phony stuff.
>	
>	Yes, as I said in an earlier post. Just a pile of drugged out
>paranoid urban legends and bar room talk.

>	For the real thing, read the Department of the Army technical
>manual "Improvised Munitions Handbook".  Part number TM 31-210.

>	This is a great book. It will tell you how to make stuff
>that goes bang etc. Sorry, no bong assemby instructions. 

>	But if you really want to know how to create havoc, let Uncle
>Sam show you how.

>	And guess what, the Doper Anarchist Cookbook is $25.00 and you
>can pick up the "Improvised Munitions Handbook" for $5.00 or so.

>ObTasteless: Any meal eaten in Glasgow.

Speaking of anarchist books, does anyone remember Abbie Hoffmans book titled
"Steal this book"?  I remember reading parts of it about 20 years ago and some
of the scams in it actually worked back then. For instance, you used to be able
to call the operator and claim you made a phone call and the line was busy but
the phone didn't give you your dime back.  The operator would then connect you
for free :)  That trick stopped working years ago and now the operator takes 
your name and MaBell will send you a check for 20cents (At least that's the way
it was the last time I tried 15 years ago).  The reason I'm asking about this
book is because I remember so little about it.  Any one remember this book and 
have any reviews/opinions?  Is this book more or less "full of it" as well?
BTW: I was only about 13 when I last saw the book, so please understand my 
level of gullability at the time.
--
					Greg.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jones@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Mark Jones)
Subject: Re: LSD reference in the Simpsons
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:22:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.140049.27754@bnr.ca> saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>
>Anybody catched the LSD reference in the Simpsons yesterday (was yesterday
>for me here in Canada anyway, I dunno in the states when it played?).
>
>Lisa drank some 'beer' in the amusement park tunnel, and sees tracers, 
>hallucinations, proclaims to be 'The Lizard Queen'...
>

"Can't talk, I'm coming down" --Lisa Simpson

--Mark (jones@udel.edu)
~Government is not reason, it is not eloquence -- it is force.  Like fire,
it is a dangerous servant and fearful master. --George Washington
From: koch7243@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: groovey tunes
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:11:10 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa




     I want to know what album people like to listen to stoned.  I know that it
is hard to just pick one album that people like to listen to, however I also
know that there is usually one or two albums that a person may listen too that
really just soungs right.  
     I personally recommend the album "Black Eyed Man" by the Cowboy Junkies. 
This album is just spectacular.  It has just a perfect layed back feeling.  The
sound is just one that I never get tired of.
     What do you all think.  

                                        Lance

P.S  dont mind the spelling.  What do I need to spell for , I'm an English
major
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From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: YOU FUCKERS
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:45:33 GMT
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nwoodard@dante.nmsu.edu (WOODARD) writes:

[something]

demonstrating that he:
a) left his terminal unattended
b) has recently quit using tobacco products
c) is suffering from coke bugs
d) lost his works and couldn't find a diabetic to roll
e) ate too much ibogaine (conviently curing his Heroin addiction, so that's ok)
f) forgot to take his thorazine
g) smokes jimsonweed
h) tried LSD w/o a guide
i) recently began watching Pat Robertson reruns
j) lost another girlfriend to a Freedom Fighter.
k) realized that the fellow who blew the grading curve was a doper
l) has a little brother adept at shoulder surfing
m) is engaged in a Bob Dornan fan club initiation prank
n) was caught masturbating to _Best of High Times #11_ cover photo.
o) got thrown off the Hopi rez. for stealing Lophophera Williamsii
p) was fooled by the bananadine recipe in _AC_
q) found out why he should have been bleaching his needles
r) finally made it into the witness protection program
s) went to the Rush Limbaugh marathon video screening
t) drank the boat ride water.

heeheehee.max
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: an6776@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Transportation of LSD
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:03:52 GMT

I was wondering if there was any way of detecting very small
amounts of LSD. I've heard that it has no scent. This suggests
that it is impossible to catch a person carrying it around.
Of course I am asking about very small amounts.

I needn't say that I am only curious :-)

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From: boulos@csa2.lbl.gov (Thomas Boulos CDF/LBL x7181)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Narcotics Anonymous = a cult?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:04 PST
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In article <1joi5bINN25r@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse) writes...
>I have noticed a "cultish" attitude about it.   I remember reading
>accounts of groups of AA people that hung around each other for years
>and almost invariably as soon as all of them were dry one of the members
>of the group would go "off the wagon" presumably just to become "cured"
>again by his group of friends.   I never really bought into AA's notion

I read about this kind of occurence in a very good book called 
_On Becoming a Person_.  I don't remember the author, but it's a 
book on psychology (writen by a psychiatrist) which I would recomend to
anyone intersted in gaining some insight into people or themselves.  It
quotes research (another reason I like it).  On drug addictions (psychological
aspects) it states that the (psych) addiction is to the "game" -- which
includes certain players:  the addict, the supplier, the helpful freind
(or sometimes doctor -- someone who encourages the addict to quit), and
maybe someone else.  He states that once chemical addiction is completed,
the game playing doesn't necessarily stop -- as long as the ex-addict can
pick up another role in the game.  Concerning AA (or NA), the individual
has switched from "addict" to "helpful freind", and this does nothing
to stop the addiction to the game.  A story quoted as supporting evidence
was an AA in a small town.  It turned out that once most (all?) of the
alcoholics in the town joined AA and kicked the habit, they ALL fell off
the wagon -- with no more addicts to help, their psychological game
was going to end, was the explaination.

		ciao,			-tom
From: loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: FedEx and UPS
Distribution: world
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Date: 27 Jan 93 23:31:52 CST
Organization: Texas Net Illuminati

jeckenbe@gluttony.reed.edu (Judah Michael Eckenberg) writes:
>
>	Does anyone out there know the procedures involved in
> international mailing via a private carrier?

All packages are subject to being opened by customs. A significant number
of packages I receive from overseas have been opened and resealed by
customs tape.

Loyd


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From: mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: smart drinks
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:37:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN

What exactly is a _smart drink_?  Enlighten me, sorry if it is in the
FAQ.

-mAtt


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From: an7592@anon.penet.fi (Stefo)
Subject: politicians die!!
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:12:42 GMT

X-Anon-To: alt.drugs

Dont you think that any politician pushing legalization of drugs would
be  assasinated by organized crime?  
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From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.tasteless,alt.conspiracy,rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: The Anarchist Cookbook
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:48:41 GMT
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

> MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (David B. Horvath, CDP) writes:
> : I saw a little ad in Philadelphia Magazine and wrote to the company
> : what follows is from their reply.  I do not work for the publisher
> : and have heard that many of the recipies in the book are bogus and
> : may be hazardous to your health.  With all that said, let the ad
> : begin:
> : 
> : * * * * *  NOW IN PRINT AGAIN * * * * *
> : **** 28th PRINTING OF THIS "COLLECTOR'S ITEM"
> : <note: 28 crossed out and replaced with 32>
> : **** MORE THAN 850,000 COPIES SOLD !!
> : <note: 850,000 crossed out and replaced with ONE MILLION tripple
> :        underlined>
> 
> Just shows that a lot of people have thrown them in the trash, instead
> of sending them to the used book stores. Of course, even if all the
> copies were kept (none lost or destroyed), it means that less than
> 0.5% of the population has a copy. 
> 
> : - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -
> : 
> : They included a copy of a great little newspaper article about police
> : being upset because they're finding college students with copies of
> : this book.
> 
> Some cops get upset if you have a book of matches - they figure that
> you are a diehard arsonist. For some reason, they seem to believe that
> there is no such thing as curiosity. They expect everyone who reads
> the book to use the formulas it contains. Maybe they are afraid that
> people will start using the materials on the police. 
> 
> Bill

I remember hearing that there are 2 versions of the handbook, one
unedited and a version that's censored a bit... I wonder it that's
true and if so, which one's for sale again. 

As for the police, their viewpoint's likely to be a bit different
than that of normal people, if a person reads only 1 book every
10 years and figures that everyone else is like that, finding someone
and seeing that his reading for the next 10 years is The Anarchist
Cookbook is indeed likely to be upsetting.
                                      A.Lizard

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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Another post on the Growing Subject!
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:53:23 GMT

  Hello again everyone!  I have a couple questions of a FOAF again, who is a
rather impatient human being.  Those plants are never going to get more than
a foot tall, because he wants to start smoking the plants now.  I told him
just to buy some and let the rest grow.  Someone please E-Mail me with some
answers to the following questions:

1) His plants, i believe, are around 4-5 inches tall.  Nothing spectacular,
    but none the less, growing fine.  He needs to know how long he should
    expect it to take before he has any smokable material?

2) He has about 4-5 of the plants that are growing strong.  How much decent
    material should he expect to get out of it.  Let's say they get to be
    about 2 feet tall in 3 months or 4 months?  How much good bud could he
    get out of them?  (In relation to .25 oz bags?)  

     This guy has absolutely no intent to sell the stuff, but he is curious
as to what is going to happen with these plants.  He wants to know if he is
going to get enough good bud out of them to smoke or if he is just wasting
his time.  Please E-Mail me with some answers.  Sorry to bother you all again.
:-)

Mike
From: v094px3a@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian Mauger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Desmanthus Illinoesis
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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I remember hearing somewhere the roots of Desmanthus Illinoesis contain DMT.  
Does anyone have any information on ways to prepare the dried roots for best 
effct?  Thanks for any information.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rl103465@tut.fi (Lauhanen Rauli)
Subject: Re: Valerian root...a legit. sedative?
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:47:45

In article <szikopou.727593291@cunews> szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:
***********************************************************************
   At some pharmacies and many health food stores one can buy Valerian
   root extract.  This product is sold as a anxiolytic, sedative and
   hypnotic.  I have done a small lit. search (although the journals I
   have yet to actually read, hard to get hold of).

   The lit. serach tells me that some controlled research is being done
   on this "herbal" remedy.  Is anyone familiar with it?  What info. can
   you provide?

   Steven Zikopoulos
   Carleton University
   Ottawa Ontario
   szikopou@ccs.carleton.ca
***********************************************************************

  Well, according to my references (Cantell et al, Suomen laake ja myrkky
kasvit, wsoy 1936 >:-)  ) valerian isn`t good for your neural system
when used in big doses. In small doses valerian is a tranquiller ( SP?)
, and in heavy doses it is a poison.
  That book ( A BIBLE ) tells also, If I remember correct that even 
valerians "Normal" use for one month is not recommended, because it
is a cumulative poison.
  One friend of mine told that he ingested 3 hop-leaves with butter and
a couple of grams ( 1/10 pound ?) of valerian root, he felt dizzy and
drunky 6 hours after he woke up later. 

    Good for sleep, shitty for tripping..


       Mks



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From: aldis@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 19 Jan 93 21:45 EST
Subject: Looking for old prohibition stuff
Nf-ID: #N:peg:225100156:000:1150
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!aldis    Jan 19 21:45:00 1993


I am looking for any sources of "photogenic" material relating
to the origin of marijuana prohibition in the US.  This is for
a TV documentary, so old films like "Reefer Madness",
newsreels of Harry Anslinger, or old hemp prohibition posters
would be ideal.

An Australian documentary filmmaker has managed to get a
big producer here interested in a TV documentary about
cannabis prohibition.  She now needs to demonstrate the
feasibility of finding archival material about the origins of
hemp prohibition in the US.  The kind of material used by
Stafford to illustrate earlier editions of the Encyclopedia
would be ideal for this purpose.

The filmmaker will be visiting the US about two weeks from
now, and I would like to arrange for her to be able to
evaluate what kind of material is available, and report to the
producer about the possibilities for filming later (this is a
preliminary research trip).

Any suggestions by email would be greatly appreciated. 
Because of the tight time constraints, phone numbers would be
realy handy.  Thanks in advance for any help.

Aldis Ozols
Sydney, Australia
aldis@peg.apc.org  aldis@kralizec.zeta.org.au
From: jdiorio@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Crystal Meth____?
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:00:23 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

I'm hoping someone can clear up some terminology problems for me.

My Question:
	Is "crystal meth" the same as "crystal methadrone" and if 
so... is it at all related to Methamphetamines?


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