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From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Arrogant Idiots
Date: 3 Oct 1992 03:43:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge) says:

>In <1abg9mINN7hr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:
>
>>Suggestions for survival tactics welcome.  I have one week to prepare...
>
>Seduce her? 

Well, truthfully now, I prefer tall men with nice smiles to middle-aged
women.  Call me crazy...

>Mea saurus, mea saurus. Mea maxima saurus.

I have no idea what this means.


But all that stuff before was just whining.  (I am allowed to say this.)
There's real horror in here:  As the thought of this trip continued to
gnaw at me, I devised a plan by which I could extract myself from
the whole business, and through a complicated and skillfully executed
series of corporate/political maneuvers, I succeeded.  I even exceeded
my own goals -- she thought I was her new best friend, she my mentor,
best buddies, lunch pals, fellow professional women allies forever....
I even bragged about this to a co-worker, how I had pulled off this
amazing feat.  I can't believe I have sunk so low as to participate in
and especially to _enjoy_ corporate politics.  Shoot me now, make it
quick.

>Ollie/Lucifuge...

-Jeanne
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: death of
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:58:58 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep30.211855.6828@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

>a friend of mine's father just died, and i received a postcard from him
>(from ramsgate, england) telling me about it. this guy's getting up there,
>(in his 50's i think) and he's all alone. but it seemed so odd getting
>this news on a brightly colored postcard, complete with happy red double-
>decker bus and colorized sea-scape. i can't deal with it. is everything
>this fake? i know peter wasn't being fake, but it just threw things into
>sharp relief. i'm feeling pretty ill about this. i can feel my face pale.
>i'm getting cold. my lips are drying up, and sticking together, making my
>face immobile. why? i know that people die, this isn't about that. it's 
>just that the world continues to be so brash and insensitive. 

weird.  why would he send a colour posty instead of a letter or a plain 
posty?  maybe he's in mourningshock and just didn't think, but: weird.


              Have another day    [Armageddon, the musical] 
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033
From: tourf00@DMI.USherb.CA (Francis Tourillon <Tourfman>)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Getting angstful over women (This is a really nasty story!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:46:17 GMT
Organization: U de Sherbrooke -- LIIT adicts - ANS - Ascot Boyz -


	I've just one thing to say to you.  If this girl know all about those
feelings you have for her and she wants you too, go for it because even if
you don't make anything, your relationship will change and an ice wall will 
exist between you and her anyway.  But if she don't, think about it before 
telling this to everybody...

	I hope you'll make the right decision.

Tourf"psy"man
-------------


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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: rydzewjh@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (John H. Rydzewski)
Subject: Info Wanted About Research Studies
Summary: Info Wanted on Recent National Studies
Keywords: Alcohol, Students, Grades, Indians, Eskimos, Mars, Long Duration
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:22:54 GMT



	I am looking for information about some of the
recent national studies that were done. Those consist of:

	College Students With Poor Grades Drink More Alcohol
	Eskimos and Native Americans Three Times As Likely To
	Die In Auto Accident
	
	They both hit national media. I only heard about the second
study on the CBS Radio Network. I don't have any more details about this
study, thus the reason for my search.

	If you can help out, please email me at either of 
the addresses below. 

	Thanks,

	John Rydzewski
	rydzewjh@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
	rydzewjh@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Windows (Re: the angst of Princess HotShit
Summary: poor thing
Keywords: Don't you just feel so SORRY for her?
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:32:24 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1anuujINNb05@uwm.edu> jethro@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Mary Ellen Paul) writes:


>Princess HotShit started her very first job this week,
>at the tender young age of 28-or-so.


>She doesn't have a window in her cubicle, (funny, neither does

Qualification for an office with a window where I read the net ^H^H^H^H^H^H
work is that you have to be here 10 years.
If you bring a doctor's note, they'll let you use your own incandescent lamp 
to offset the effects of the flourescents.


              Have another day    [Armageddon, the musical] 
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033
From: xibo@fido.econ.arizona.edu (Mr. Coates)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: ObAngst, bah (allowable?)
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:21:12 GMT
	<1992Sep21.231526.28378@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
	<1992Sep22.181405.15784@microunity.com>
	<1992Sep22.193140.27622@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
	<1992Sep23.180026.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>
	<92269.081400IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Organization: Xibological Perimeter

In article <92269.081400IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:

#One would gather from the criticisms of allowable angst that the following are
# NOT permissable:
#    .
#    . 
#    .
#
#   6. And worst of all, you find out that the USA Network has taken reruns
#      of "Miami Vice" off the air.

They did?  AUUUUUGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!

Damn.  Just ain't nuthin' good on telly no more.


Xibo
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Are You a Misanthrope?
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:11:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.001015.43565@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II) writes:
>	I have a good friend (who does not have internet access) who wishes 
>to pose a question to this forum.  She is a serious naturalist who is 
>concerned about her views concerning mankind's actions as a whole.

Most people look at them one at a time..

>	To anyone who considers themselves a true misanthrope:  Why?

Why not?  People are stupid little reproductive units, doing their
little illusion-of-free-will pre-programmed reproductive dance.
Our only purpose is to make more little reproductive units as
fast as possible, while keeping all the other units from doing it.
Free will, philosophy, intelligence, and filmy black lingerie only
exist to enable us to make more little reproductive units faster.

>	My friend has many misanthropic viewpoints, mostly related to 
>humankind's destruction of the environment.

Oh, I see.  I used to be a serious naturalist too.   I got all upset
about the species that we've killed, the enviromnents we're
despoiling.  Then I discovered the nilihistic viewpoint that it really
doesn't matter.  Unless you beleive in a Higher Plan for the universe,
it really doesn't matter if the earth has it's current highly varied
ecology, or a monoculture of slime molds and cockroaches.  Who can say
that a sperm whale or antelope is a more valid organisim than the
cockroach?  The organisims adapt to the enviromnent- there is no 'good'
or 'bad', there's only 'successful' or 'extinct'.  Humans will modify
the earth until we're extinct.  Whatever's still around afterwards
will be more sucessful than we are.

>  She wishes to supplement her 
>viewpoints with others' after carefully analyzing each reason and opinion of 
>those who respond to this post.

If she's stil interested in saving the earth, she should do it
anyhow, just to make her happy.  Otherwise, she should offer
herself up for sacrifice to the nearest large carnivore.  Maybe
she'll get lucky and be able to perpetuate an interesting species
for a few fleeting moments.



--
            Eric Murray                 ericm@microunity.com
In this game, the winner is also the loser, and the judge's decisions are final
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: sepstein@scott.skidmore.edu (stacey epstein)
Subject: life
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:49:42 GMT




                    Life is just a bowl of cherry pits.
                                So there!
From: nexus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Abstractor)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: public bleeding and angst (mine is bigger than yours)
Date: 26 Sep 1992 23:26:13 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung) writes:

>In article <80505@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:

># interacting with a fiuve-year-old. his mom's an alcoholic. me, too.

>You or your mom?  :/

Pardon me, but is that a type of "inquiring minds want to know" question
Don't get offended, I just don't understand why do you ask. Is that what
you wanted to know from the whole story?

the NEXUS

         <<< You're biochemically correct <<<
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: adjective of choice
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:17:48 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Lucifuge (ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie) wrote:
: In <1aaqsrINNnn5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:
: 
: >I'm getting ready to do *anything* (lizards, this does not mean you)
: >just to feel *something*.
: 
: Oh well. Mea saurus, mea saurus. Mea maxima saurus. 

i loved her line, actually. you wanna understand it, try logging on
under a female-sounding handle/name. call bulletin boards, especially
interactive chat boards. enjoy.

real live questions i've been asked online by guys who knew nothing of me
save my gender:

how much can you hold?
what are you wearing?
what do people say is sexiest about you? (and when i pointed out that 
  this was a strange way to start a convo, he said "you must not be
  very sexy, then, since you won't tell me")
what's your bra size?
can you call me voice?

these guys were total strangers.

i understand the lizard complaint totally. cyberlizards make everyone 
look bad.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"i'm in love with a raving lunatic. and she has *cats*!"
From: Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk (B M Wightman)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: adjective of choice
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:18:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff

In article <1992Sep30.114157.15555@infodev.cam.ac.uk> mrf12@cus.cam.ac.uk (Marcus Frean) writes:
>> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:
>>
>>                    VICARIOUS
>>
>Uh huh, and what does it mean? I've been walking around for days with
>a babes in toyland thing in my head - my recording is lousy and about
>the only words I can make out are "...living vicariously...". It's a
>very angstful song, and like all the best songs I'm not sure I want to
>know what it's all about (in case it's something I can't get into),
>but knowing what vicariously meant probably wouldn't ruin it...
>
>marcus.

VICARIOUS (adj.) Seemingly similar to (in mannerism or form) clergy of
                 the Church Of England

Which reminds me, do any other religious sects have Vicars or is it just
mine? (Who says Catholics have all the fun. _We_ angst about not even being
sure whether we're condemned to everlasting purgatory...)
--
- Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk / COMMA,Senghenydd Rd.,Cardiff,Wales -
-------- PhD Student in Meddling In Things I Do Not Understand ---------
Laugh, and the world laughs with you. 
Ask for student reductions and the world laughs at you.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: ObAngst, bah, MiniAngst, etc...
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:26:29 GMT

In article <80529@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>Tero Mikko Laitinen (laitinen@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:
>
>:   Hear hear.  The first sensible post in months.  Don't you people out
>: there think at all what kind of crap you are posting into this group?
>: I mean, WHO wants to know who of you little jerks has the fastest car
>[bitching about specific posts deleted]
>
>this is the rest of the stuff i wantd to say to xibo and to this
>person, also.
>
>the point? instead of demanding that everyone stop talking about
>things you don't find important (since your angst is better than my
>angst), why don't the two of you learn to use a killfile and then
>begin making the sorts of posts you think belong here? that's the
>great thing about killfiles; you can make a group whatever you want it
>to be, and you don't have to rely on forcing change in others to do
>it.
>
>sine nomine

I'll second that...I haven't seen anything from Xibo in months except his 
recent flamage. Where's the wit dude?---You used to put out some pretty cool
stuff but now all you seem to do is lay into people, esp. if they're female. 

I could go on and say more, but its already been said by others, so I'll
just spare you all any further...besides you didn't come here to hear me
talk...

---Steve  
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis)
Subject: Re: random screams
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:57:16 GMT

In <81037@ut-emx.uucp> llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:

>i love my job, but i hate it. i call people from a list and offer them
>a credit card with a major bank that has a phenomenally low interest
>rate and no annual fee and they act like i've broken into their
>breakfast nook with an uzi, shot their dog, kicked their kid, and
>trampled on their scrambled eggs.

Sorry if this is the only way that you have of making a living, but I have no 
real sympathy for people who get me out of the shower or bed, and raise my 
hopes(for a few seconds) that someone that I've been waiting and waiting and 
waiting and waiting to hear from is finally calling, and tell me all about this
FANTASTIC, ONCE IN A LIFETIME OFFER virtually identical to the one that I got 
last week, an offer that is a waste of my time because of my extremely negative
credit rating (brought on by several years of living hand-to-mouth), which they
apparently haven't heard about from whoever sold them my name in the first 
place, and THEN get pissed because I decide to save my time and breath--and 
theirs--by saying, "No, sorry", and hanging up.

It will be several years, at least, before I will be allowed one of these 
fantastic little debt-generating totems.  In the meantime, call me if you want
to talk about psych or angst or whatever.
>--
>sine nomine | debbie martinson
>"i want you to know i feel completely at ease. you read me like a book
>that's fallen down between your knees. please let me have my way with
>you" -- crowded house
--

Tom Dennis                    |  I looked into the abyss,
dennis@alexia.uiuc.edu        |    and the abyss looked into me--
tadg0614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu     |      and we both winked.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: wimmin!
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:18:52 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep30.235501.33178@dante.uucp> zeke@dante.uucp (zero kelvin) writes:

>       well, if you have sheep then what the hell do you need wimmin[tm] 
>       for, anyways?

Sheep get you busted
wimmin get you off scot-free, if you're a bishop (Galway again)


              Have another day    [Armageddon, the musical] 
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Somebody understood my intentions (RE: HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW YOU'RE ALIV
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:17:31 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

From:	MX%"h136151@cc.tut.fi" 29-SEP-1992 04:54:08.19
Subj:	Re: ...OK, OK, WE'RE ALIVE, DAMMIT, WE'RE ALIVE!!! =)

In alt.angst you write:

> how many of us stop to think,
> to contemplate our mortal existence,
> to ponder our eventual demise,
> to be aware of the fact that we are *alive*
> and wake up from the stupor of this artificial fast-food culture???

	Not very many, I guess. Thinking things like you mentioned
        can be (and at least to me: is) quite painful, most of us
        just don't like to voluntarily contemplate on such matters.
        It's so easier to endulge oneself in the trivial problems
        and pleasures of our daily life and to discard these
        thoughts as "an unnecessary, extra burden".

	Even though it is important to realise one is alive, to
        my opinion it's even more important to be aware of the
        fact that we aren't going to be like that forever. As
	painful as it may be, I think this provides the only
	proper view on the life: to acknowledge the
	presence of death and keep in mind that "he" is getting
	closer every second. Everything we do, is going to
	vanish and be forgotten sometime. Nothing lasts forever.

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Subject: Re: adjective of choice
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:54:11 GMT

In <1aaqsrINNnn5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:

>I'm getting ready to do *anything* (lizards, this does not mean you)
>just to feel *something*.

Oh well. Mea saurus, mea saurus. Mea maxima saurus. 

If you *really* want to feel something, try a.s.h.'s methods list.

Mea saurus, mea saurus. Mea maxima saurus.

Ollie/Lucifuge...

--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
The Lord is my Shepherd..........................but I'm not a Sheep
--------------------------ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie-----------------------
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: ex-friends (was Re: a little annoying..)
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:07:32 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:

> earthbound misfit, I (kilroy@acme.gen.nz) wrote:
> 
> : Oooh, ex-friends, now there's a potential thread and a half, I could
> : probably expound on a sordid tale about this for hours... (I wonder if
> : he reads alt.angst?)
> 
> nah, he doesn't. basically, this is a friend here in town who's about

Sorry, I guess that was a little oblique. When I said "I wonder if he reads
alt.angst" I was referring to the ex-friend that I could drivel on about
for hours. (of course, if he does, then he's probably already figured out
who I'm talking about).

> of email). he told me all those things that you keep inside and you
> never tell anyone cause you know that if you do they'll laugh or
>
> [...]
> 
> the problem is that there's a lot of unresolved male-female stuff in
> there, and he has a girlfriend and felt like he was betraying her, and
> then i got weird on him, and so he went away. dunno what to do about
> it; it sucks. everyone in my life i've ever trusted has gone. everyone.

Yeah, tell me about it. Trusting people sucks. I'm not very good at it at
all. And just when I start actually trusting someone, they go and betray it
in a big way. That sort of thing tends to reinforce your distrust of people
quite strongly.

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Arrogant Idiots
Date: 3 Oct 1992 03:45:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wjw1@me1.MsState.Edu (Bill Wilson) says:

>I take it you are pretty sure that the ScreamingBitchBossLadyFromHell
>does not read news?
>
>Oh no... wait... have I just created a NEW source of angst for you?


Yes indeed.


>Bill Wilson : MSU Nuclear Engineering
>slave to the waffle light


-Jeanne
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:45:05 -0600

In article <1992Sep30.180924.17599@cbfsb.cb.att.com>  writes:
>I got this from soc.women. Mattel really did it this time It is bad enough
>that Barbie instills an unattainable body image to our little girls now
>they are now reinforcing fear of math.
>
>
>     According to the Wall Street Journal this morning, Mattel is selling
>     a product called "Teen Talk Barbie" which says 4 phrases.  One of the 
>     phrases is "Math class is hard".  I can't imagine a product better
>     designed to program math avoidance into little girls.  We've all heard
>     many times how math avoidance limits women's educational opportunities
>     and career choices.  Mattel justifies this product by saying something
>     like they aren't saying the other classes are easy, and that they have
>     a doll availble that says "I want to be a doctor".  I'm sure we all
>     wish Barbie good luck on achieving her goal of becoming a doctor
>     without any math skills.  If you have views on this subject that
>     you would like to share with the Mattel company, you can call
>     1-800-421-2887 or write to Mattel at 330 Continental Blvd.,
>     El Secundo, Ca. 90245.
>
>Joni :)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: zeke@dante.uucp (zero kelvin)
Subject: Re: tiredness.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:33:57 GMT
Organization: H&A Computer Services

denisec@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Denise Caire) writes:
: 
: I think men are referred to as "confirmed bachelors."  Sounds positive,
: doesn't it?  How positive does crusty old spinster or old maid sound?
: Now that's real parity for ya.  Denise
	
	Q: what do you call a 30-yr old unmarried man?
	
	A: a bachelor.
	Q: what do you call a 40-yr old unmarried man?
	
	A: a comfirmed bachelor.
	Q: what do you call a 50-yr old unmarried man?
	
	A: a permanent bachelor.


-- 

-zer0 kelvin
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Arrogant Idiots
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:25:08 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

DOG BASEBALL!!! (hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote:

: 	big thing I discovered early (and forget often):  unless you can be
: killed for what you do, it's not as important as your life.  whatever shit
:falls on you, unless you're dead, I mean REALLY NO PULSE dead, you can wipe it
: off and keep going.  this is probably the eternal optimist trying to peek
: through my shell of cynical pessimism, but what can I do?  for all the

my exspousoid (who is better left unmentioned) used to say "they can
kill you, but they can't eat you." i kinda like it... they can take away
everything you have without your consent, except you. they can only consume
you if you let them.

sometimes it seems like it would be easier to just say "cool, go for
it, there's not even that much left of me to devour anyway, and it's
gonna happen sooner or later and there's really no point to any of
this," but somehow we don't. and that, i think, is the difference
between this newsgroup and a.s.h. or alt.peeves or whatever. the
people who 'live' here know that life sucks, know that there's not
really any point and we're all trapped in this existentialist dilemma
and have no clue about why we're alive or what we're sposed to be
doing, but we don't numb out in the face of this painful reality. the
people i've seen here are still trying to make sense, trying to make
something meaningful, even though there's just not all tha tmuch in
the world to work with.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
no goofy love-song quote this time, promise.