From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: Re: Where did all the Basketball fans go ?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 07:57:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

baragry@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jason M Baragry) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.084652.13533@coulomb.pcc.oz.au> parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct5.235642.20790@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> M.Jackson@unsw.edu.au writes:
>>>I have not been very impressed with Channel 10 since they dropped the live
>>>coverage because it makes it very hard to catch the away games.
>>>
>>
>>NEITHER AM I!!!!
>>

> Who is!

well you could say i am not impressed but! in perth they have kept the
live coverage, who wouldnt when you get really good ratings here.

>	Apparently, there is going to be a big write up in the next edition
>of "Basketball Week" condeming Ten's coverage of the NBL. For example, last
>Sunday Ten was showing the Queensland open tennis with two complete unknowns
>from France and Denmark playing while the finals of our NBL were being played.

some could condemn, i certainly would. the least they should have done
is at least telecast it after the tennis or something , anything, at
all!!! however they do have the show at 12pm-1pm as last saturday
also on sunday 12pm-1pm as well as 11pm sunday night which still isn't
too bad.


>	If anyone has read the current edition of ONE on ONE mag. there is
>a good article by Ricky Grace comparing the league to other leagues around
>the world. Even in the States they do not televise many live games. My gripe
>with Ten is about promotion of the league. They have extremely ordinary 
>commentators (Bill Woods, etc) and have not advertised the current playoffs
>at all.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhh


my sentiments totally!!! argh, anybody like bill woods should be banned
from entering or going within 100kms of a television station!. how can
such a person be so ignorant!!! man he has a rrrreeeaaalll bad problem.
carfino, welll he's ok, but he doesn't have the mouth a television
commentator needs, anybody in perth who watched ricky grace commentate a
charity match against the kings and the wildcats would see "ricky is
probably what the nbl needs" he can talk the pants off anybody on ten!!!


 I read in the paper that the North vs Illawara game on Saturday
>night was disappointing because only 4 1/2 thousand people went. I didn't even
>know it was being played on Saturday night eventhough I live in Melbourne
>and I went the the Magic/Cannons game the night before.

how come i knew!!! well i guess i read basketball week, any way there is
no excuse channel ten hasn't publicised it more in melbourne judging by
you, but the promotion in perth seems to be a1

some examples are :

start of the sports page in the daily newspaper here nearly all the time

channel 10 in perth put "full" page adverts in the newspapers with
crawford, ellis, grace etc advertising the coverage.

the wildcats are a very successful team, going to the semis or better
from 1987 on. except this year.

channel 10 have adverstised loads on tv about the finals

if some of the eastern states followed the same path as perth who knows
what would happen???? seems however basketball is "no-where" as big in
the eastern states as it is in perth, and i can guarrantee that!, just
look, players like vlahov and grace are given "super-star" status here.a
recent article i read, i found that there was 24,000 people looking to
buy tickets for a basketball game at the entertainment centre in perth,
when all they had to sell was 8,200. now that is demand. i think the
success of a basketball team is directly related to how successful it is
on television

the ratings have however dropped slightly in perth with channel 10's
coverage, and the wildcats showed this dismay, the channel seven
coverage here has been very successfull such as drawing audiences such
as 300,000-500,000 during grand final games. with good commentators like
dennis cometti, dave christison and neil poh on seven their coverage was
high quality however, there wasn't enough. channel ten has put a strong
effort in perth we have had so many games its great, maybe we are too
happy here to notice the eastern states but i think all the stations on
the east should learn from the perth example including the basketball
teams. look at perth before 1987, ie 1986, i think they finished 11th,
and now look at them, if well marketed, and crowd pleasing, and an
entertaining team which "wins" will go a long way!

how to make this good

listen to andrew vlahov!!! he's been telling everybody for months


1. increase the salary cap to $750,000 if not more

2. if you want to keep teams like illawarra there, let other teams
sponsor them or the nbl, but if they cant last, just get rid of them and
have more sides in cities "or" have an international competition like
with new zealand (1 big poweful team) japan (have put in very good
offers-they could fit the airline bills for teams if they are really
interested) and maybe a big se asia team or a few like indonesia or
phillipines, that's where dwayne mcclain was playing before the kings
got him. you can have a really big competition next in line to the nba

3. with big salaries you can pull in the "big " superstar players

4. shorten season and have more games, so as not to conflict with italy
, most other european competitions and the nba.

5. with this we can move into bigger stadiums and have a superb
coverage, only thing holding back is the nbl committee!!! and their pea
brained ideas, as well as the smaller clubs.

6. two conferences!!! great idea!!!

with more games, and esp. more teams winning!!!

more games in playoffss like 5 games instead of 3 crap games



>	I think channel Ten should learn a little from Seven's coverage of
>the footy in its promotion of the game!


yeah!!

but also the nbl's promotional problem as well
get out there nbl and sell the game!!!!!!!!!!!

and be open to suggestions like an international competition
saying things like "no teams till 94 or something' is ridiculous
a growing sport needs a growing competition and with more people
watching all the better


think of it, if the nbl has teams from se asia, new zealand and japan
and with freedom of teams to have no limit on austrAlian or local
players (ie japanese natives) the nbl can prosper

just more "wide" sighted ideas would help


>Jason



bryan

comments welcome

blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au