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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: SNL?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:44:11 GMT

In article <BzDvEC.F93@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
>In article <1gj4r3INN945@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf908@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Etienne Colon-Rios) writes:
>>
>>Has_Rush_ever_appeared_on_Saturday_Night_Live?
>
>Now THAT would be a show to see!!!  Hell, it would be interesting to see
>what they were like back when they were still in the bars (before Neil).
>
>RiViT
	Could happen, what with all the SC people on SNL and Rush's special
relationship with SCtv.


-- 
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From: kyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kris Young)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:15:02 GMT

 Hey, I love a good argument, any way I can come by it!  :)

K. Young
From: april@hotcity.COM (April Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Re:How do you describe Rush?
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:26:07 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <Bz6L1t.Cx6@unccsun.uncc.edu>, rgrozier@uncc.edu (Richard Gregory
Rozier) writes:
>a try. I think progressive rock is the best single answer. Progressive is
>the key word though. Rush has changed their sound through the type of
>music they play with every album. I won't say they've improved their sound
>because I think their early albums are just as good as their new stuff.
>However, the music has gone from one level to another through the years.
>
>       I also don't think you can talk about Rush's music without
>mentioning the lyrics. The lyrics could be a poem or a short story just
>by themselves and they usually mesh so well with the music that the overall
>product is that much better. Perhaps progressive rock music with great
>lyrics is a better answer.
>
>Rich
>UNC Charlotte
>
>

That's one of my only problems with listening to RUSH.  They're my favorite
group for many different reasons.  Peart's way with words is very inspiring to
me, and i wish i knew more about the stories nehind Hempspheres, 211, and
others.  I guess that's why i joinded this newsgroup.  <hint hint>
I know i should but they biographies and such, but i thik discussing the facts
and opnions are much more interesting.

April
april@hotcity.COM
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: SNL?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:08:36 GMT

In article <1gj4r3INN945@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf908@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Etienne Colon-Rios) writes:
>
>Has_Rush_ever_appeared_on_Saturday_Night_Live?

Now THAT would be a show to see!!!  Hell, it would be interesting to see
what they were like back when they were still in the bars (before Neil).

RiViT
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From: scharf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Ron Scharf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: DREAM THEATER - "Images & Words"
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:34:44 GMT
Organization: LRS

utdp@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Thomas Prohigh) writes:


>I heard that Dream Theater tune "Pull me under" too....It is really good.  How
>is the rest of the CD.  Worth buying?

Definitely. "I&W" is one of the best '92 records (IMHO). It's one of the few
records you don't have to listen to with the remote control nearby (to skip
bad tracks). Worth buying!

Bye
	Ron
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Different Strings
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:19:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <105258@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>In article <1992Dec17.191151.18354@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:

>>(No flame, no problem. ;)  )
>>Alex doesn't strike me as an idiot, either.  He does strike me as
>>a really funny guy, in interviews and on stage.  But as to how
>>intelligent he is, who knows? 

>Yeah, it's hard to say. I think the reasons why one _might_ think
>he's not as bright as Ged and Neil are a) he's more likely to be
>under the affect of some substance, legal or not (that tourbook
           ^
oops, make that ``effect'' (boy I hate when that happens :) )

>photo of Alex in a Victorian home with a book entitle MUSHROOMS
>next to him on a desk was something of a hint), and b) he's the
>least egotistic of the band members, much more humble and more of
>a joker. Who knows how intelligent he is, but he sure seems to be
>honest.


Gregg


-- 
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                   _De gustibus non disputandum_, NOT!
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From: md2946@csc.albany.edu (Alex Lifeson)
Subject: Wal bassees....
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:06:07 GMT
Distribution: alt.music.rush
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I posted this question to NMS and will ask it here in addittion...

Can anyone give me the rundown on Wal basses.  Cost, when ged used it, 
manufacturer etc....

Please respond via e-mail. no reason to waste bandwith  :-)


Mike
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:38:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.033452.13780@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes:
>I believe that IMHO means "in my honest opinion" - or am I missing it?
>
>-- 
>Jeffrey Moon			* "And the trees are all keep equal,		 
	It could also be taken to mean "In My Humble Opinion".  :-)


-- 
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From: jason@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jason Merrill)
Subject: Re: Different Strings
Organization: Minimal
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Distribution: na
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:26:40

>>>>> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:

> Might also be interesting to note that By-Tor and Snow-Dog are listed
> as Geddy and Alex, respectively... maybe Peart's tribute as he came
> new to the group?  I forgot where I heard this - maybe on the ESL video
> or something...

My copy of the FBN CD lists them that way...but I always figured that just
meant that Geddy plays the part of By-Tor in the battle sequence, and Alex
plays the part of Snow Dog.  Anyone feel differently?

--
Jason Merrill					jason@jarthur.claremont.edu
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:59:42 GMT

In article <Bz9MAq.Mu1@udecc.engr.udayton.edu> mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U)) writes:
>I agree with previous posts.... get Shine-Head O'connor out of alt.rush....
>PLEASE!  I usually don't even read these posts that don't even pertain to rush,
>but it is getting a bit annoying to see more Sinead O'Connor posts than rush
>posts.  Take it to a generic music group, please.
>
>-----===***>Mike Maryo
>
>P.S. Just my opinion  8-)

Not to start one of those stupid "I agree" trees but, I agree!!!

This discussion should be directed to one of those ridiculous newsgroups...
I think there's one like: 'alt.fan.sinead_oconnner.die.die.die'   Maybe then
I just to wishful or thinking of something like 'alt.enya.puke.puke.puke.'

RiViT
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From: umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin Bowles Nevile)
Subject: Geddy's bass
Summary: (Why do I have to make a summary?)
Keywords: Bass
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:53:09 GMT

In _Visions_ there are several pictures of Geddy with a bass that's shaped
sort of like a drop of water.  Does anyone know what kind this is?  I'd
really like to know.

Thanks.


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rgrozier@uncc.edu (Richard Gregory Rozier)
Subject: Re:How do you describe Rush?
Keywords: 
	That is a nearly impossible question to answer. But I'll give it
Reply-To: rgrozier@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:41:53 GMT

a try. I think progressive rock is the best single answer. Progressive is
the key word though. Rush has changed their sound through the type of
music they play with every album. I won't say they've improved their sound
because I think their early albums are just as good as their new stuff.
However, the music has gone from one level to another through the years.

	I also don't think you can talk about Rush's music without
mentioning the lyrics. The lyrics could be a poem or a short story just
by themselves and they usually mesh so well with the music that the overall
product is that much better. Perhaps progressive rock music with great
lyrics is a better answer.

Rich
UNC Charlotte


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From: stephenm@odie.cs.mun.ca (Stephen Mercer)
Subject: Just who's reading this?...
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 04:56:42 GMT

  Sorry to waste the bandwidth, but I was wondering just how many of you are
getting my posts? I've read for quite awhile, but posted only once, and I
didn't notice any followups to it, (probably no reason to followup, anyway)
If you see this, drop me a short line, so I know people are reading my posts
, thus making it worthwile to post my occasional ramblings. :)

And no flames about my .sig! :):)

Hey, at least you guys aren't as bad as the gang in alt.---.metallica!:):)

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| Memorial University of Newfoundland|"Learning that we're only	immortal  |
| stephenm@odie.cs.mun.ca	     |   ... for a limited time." -- Rush |
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From: moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:30:00 GMT

>    POS:    Piece Of Sh*t
>    RCS:    Real Cool Shit
 -- 
> John lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu
> 

Just curious, why was only one of these censored?  RCS really offends me.



















8-)
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:32:41 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <BzDxFv.Ioz@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.215421.21272@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mmidboe@nyx.cs.du.edu (digital saint) writes:
>>
>>     Just what do the christians find to object about Rush's music? Did
>>their rantings have any effect on Rush's music at all? 

>Sorry, true Christians do not... over zealous Christians seem to (yes,
>I'm a Christian Baptist Rush fan).

>To my recollection, the Bible (the Christian's "How To Book") says NOT to
>do such things as some of these "holier than thou" people are doing -- sorry,
>I can't remember that exact Biblical reference off the top of my head.

I can help you out here -

Those who exalt themselves shall be humbled; but those who humble themselves
shall be exalted.

 - and -

Judge not, lest ye be judged.  For the Father shall judge you in Heaven as 
ye judge on earth.

 - and -

You hypocrite!  First take the board from your own eye so that you may see to
remove the speck from your brothers...

 - and - 

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

In short, the Bible has not one, but many things to say about this.

>I think it's rather idiotic, myself.  Accorinding to the Bible, our jobs
>here as Christians is to lead people to God as the one true saviour -- not
>to push them in a direction they do not want to go...

And to exemplify, to mirror Jesus.

>As for finding anything satanic in the music -- I simply ask you "where"?
>I have at <least> one copy of <every> Rush album (I had to buy news ones
>when I made the move to CD -- couldn't let <any> of their music escape my
>ears) and I have <yet> to find <any> satanic reference in their music...
>although it is <their> perogative, if it is there...

Worldly, maybe, but IMHO not satanic.


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From: chadwemy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chad Barret Wemyss)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The AntiRUSH
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:43:49 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <92351.153437SS3254B@auvm.american.edu> Doc <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>the Professor).  I didn't see Primus when they opened for Rush, but I did
>see them open for U2.  Primus was totally out of place, though.  If one band
>doesn't belong in a stadium tour, it's Primus.  I'd die to see them in a
>dive of a bar and see them jam.  That's were they're at their best.  Saying

I also saw them open for U2.  Now, I am a U2 fan, but I also love Primus.  So 
do the friends that I went to the concert with.  I think we were the only five 
or six people in the place (Saratoga, NY), who had actually heard of Primus.  
I dont think that the problem was that they were playing a large venue, it was 
that the crowd wasn't into them.  I thought they did a real good show, but the 
average U2 fan (by average I mean any of the 14,000 Jr High girls that were at 
the concert) probably either hasnt heard of Primus, or feels that because they 
aren't on MTV or their favorite radio station, that they aren't a real band.  
I thought they put on a pretty good show, and that it was the crowd that ruined
it.

Chad Wemyss
Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Re:How do you describe Rush?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:20:39 GMT

>In article <1992Dec17.182623.17810@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
>
>>> That's one of my only problems with listening to RUSH.  They're my favorite
>>> group for many different reasons.  Peart's way with words is very
>>>inspiring to
>>> me, and i wish i knew more about the stories nehind Hempspheres, 211, and
>>> others.  I guess that's why i joinded this newsgroup.  <hint hint>
>
>>I can tell you that "2112" is based upon Ayn Rand's book, _Anthem,_ which  
>>I still haven't read.  It's also the only song Peart wrote inspired by  
>>another writer where he actually sites that writer in the liners (oh,  
		                   ^^^^^
>>yeah, I just remembered that he sited whatshisface in "Red Barchetta").   
                                  ^^^^^
>>Rush are indeed a wonderful band, and Neil is a great lyricist, but it  
>>pisses me off the way he neglects to site authors whose works he writes  
           			       ^^^^
>>songs about.  "Xanadu" was my favorite song until I found out that half of  
>>it was written by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. 
>
	I think the word is "cite."  

	Anyway, Xanadu, as written by Coleridge doesn't involve anyone trying
to actually find the caves of ice and all that.  The song could be thought of
as an extension of the poem (since Coleridge was supposedly interrupted by a 
stranger in his inspirational acid trip) where Peart attempts to finish up on
Coleridge's dream.  Anyway, citation of authors of common books and works isn't
necessary, did Steinbeck cite the Bible at all in Grapes of Wrath?  Hell, even
the title comes from the Bible...


-- 
 Chintan Amin  The University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign  c-amin1@uiuc.edu
  "Public speaking is very easy!" <-- Quayle 10/88  ;-)
  "Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists" <-- Quayle, 10/12/90
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Last go-round?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:03:23 GMT

In article <168B914404.PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater) writes:
>In article <Bz2p67.D4r@unix.portal.com>
>rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
> 
>  [General remarks about Geddy scaling his voice down deleted]
> 
>What older songs has he changed, and what are the changes? I guess they cut
>the ungodly high part out of "Freewill" on the Presto tour as well as its
>nearly identical twin, the RtB tour, but I can't think of anything else.
> 
>I'm very interested in how they change the music live, especially since it's
>always so much like the album.

Well, it seems to me that Geddy has attempted to pull a lot of the music
back down into his range -- so as to put less strain on his voice.  It
also seems to be that they've resorted to not really playing all the
real "screamer songs" that they used to be real good at; although you do
still catch them going off on one (not that I mind in the least -- always
a pleasure to see these guys do what they do best!).

RiViT
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From: april@hotcity.COM (April Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Can I really Post?
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:18:57 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Dec9.152555.19379@medtron.medtronic.com>, ji0000m@medtronic.COM
(James Imholte) writes:
>I've been reading this group for awhile.  The constant flaming sometimes
>amazes me.  This is the first time since I've been at this place that I
>found a way to Post... So here goes.
>
>A Rush listener since AWAS.
>(KISS was my favorite until I learned how to play guitar - sorry)
>
>A Rush fan since PW which is still my favorite album. (My original copy
>is grey with Mt. St. Helens Ash - I grew up in northern Idaho.)  Funny thing
>was I really hated this album the first couple times I played it as I had
>pretty much mastered the guitar work in Hemespheres and thought it was the
>greatest piece of music ever composed. (still is IMO).
>
>ANYWAY - I still love to listen to anything they put out past or present and
>try to grow and change my taste for Rush as their music has through the years.
>
>A Rush experience for you now... (Wish it were me)
>
>I gave up the Rock and Roll life long ago but the guy that played bass in my
>High School band (BTW I'm 29) has kept it up and still rocking in Seattle in
>a very talented band called Simple Simon (good tunes... very progressive /
>alternative.  For a demo Email me.)  
>
>While Tim was still playing in a (YUK) top 40 bar band he saw a guy at the bar
>that looked like Alex Lifeson... Well it was.  On a break Tim went to chat 
>with him and offered him a chance to play a few songs with the band.  Tim can
>play Rush fluently but much to Alex's relief no one else in the band could so
>they played some Led Zep covers and a couple other old standards and called it
>a night. (can you imagine Alex playing "Smoke on the Water"?)
>
>Anyway it was quite a night.
>
>"10 bucks is 10 bucks" - Geddy Lee (or was it 5)
>
>Jim Imholte (ji0000m@tmp.medtronic.com)
>
>-- 
>Jim Imholte            Phoenix Circuit Design           Consultant
>Medtronic/Micro-Rel
>ji0000m@tmp.medtronic.com                      (602)968-6411 x6620
It was 10..

I wish i could have jammed along with Alex..
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From: moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins)
Subject: Re: Re:How do you describe Rush?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:26:23 GMT


> That's one of my only problems with listening to RUSH.  They're my  
favorite
> group for many different reasons.  Peart's way with words is very  
inspiring to
> me, and i wish i knew more about the stories nehind Hempspheres, 211,  
and
> others.  I guess that's why i joinded this newsgroup.  <hint hint>
> I know i should but they biographies and such, but i thik discussing the  
facts
> and opnions are much more interesting.
> 
> April
> april@hotcity.COM

I can tell you that "2112" is based upon Ayn Rand's book, _Anthem,_ which  
I still haven't read.  It's also the only song Peart wrote inspired by  
another writer where he actually sites that writer in the liners (oh,  
yeah, I just remembered that he sited whatshisface in "Red Barchetta").   
Rush are indeed a wonderful band, and Neil is a great lyricist, but it  
pisses me off the way he neglects to site authors whose works he writes  
songs about.  "Xanadu" was my favorite song until I found out that half of  
it was written by Samuel Taylor Coleridge.  I think it's great that he  
wants to honor great writers in song, but what's the point if people don't  
know whom he's honoring?  This is the second flame-bait post I've written  
today, so please be gentle.

Moleface
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Advertisements/Endorsements
Keywords: Have you seen any with the band-members?
Date: 11 Dec 92 03:56:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1g86e7INNkc6@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> fjs@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:

>I have a quick question I would like to ask.  I am curious as to which products
>Geddy, Alex, and Neil have either endorsed or promoted.  Currently, I have only
>seen the Gallien-Kruger ads which feature Alex, but I am interested in
>knowing what other products Rush favor............

Neil has endoresed (first) Tama (now Ludwig) drums, Solid Percussion, and
Pro-Mark (sticks)...

Gregg