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From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Subject: Re: Bono
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:37:28 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

In article <1992Sep14.044754.19686@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:
>In article <flower.32.0@nd.edu> flower@nd.edu (Jody Flower) writes:
>>
>>thing I'd like to know:  What's happened to the old Bono?  His 
>>mannerisms are totally different and what the hell is up with those glasses 
>>and the shiny leather outfit he wears ALL the time?  My friends don't agree 
>>with me on this at all - is there anyone else who feels the same way?  I 
>>still love the music but can't help but believe Bono's getting too caught up 
>>in the whole thing.
>
>Yeah Bono is a FUCKWIT and U2 have severly gone down the drain. Achtung was the
>first album of theirs that I didn't buy because it is just souped up rubbish.
>There is no actual quality content in it. They are just relying on hype and
>bullshit a production gimickry.

U2 realized that their previous image they tried to protect, as the "serious
and uncommercial band of integrity" became selfparodistic and liefull when they
became megastars. So in an effort to retain their integrity they now project
to their fans what they really are "rockstars". It oughta be obvious even to the 
dumbest fans that U2 is way way overplaying. But funnily enough it is not!

Nat!
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From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Amused to Death - First Impressions
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:53:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <78955@ut-emx.uucp>, reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) writes:
> Well... the long awaited new Roger Waters solo hit the stores yesterday.
> So far, I've only listened to it once.  Waters' albums sort of "grow" on
> me after a while, so any conclusions may be premature, but it was a bit
> of a let-down.  Simply put, it's a 70+ minute philosophical/political
> oratorio.  I was so excited to learn that Jeff Beck was to play on this
> album, but he only has a token part in 3 or 4 songs (out of 14).  

   Actually, he plays on six: "Bill Hubbard" all three "What God Wants" and 
the last three songs.  Also, if you add up the times for the tracks that Beck 
plays on, they come out to 48 minutes, more like a typical record time, and 
they exclude the tracks that refer directly to the Gulf War ("Bravery...," 
"Perfect Sense," "Late Home Tonight," and "Too Much Rope").  I suspect they are
the ones that were recorded in 1989 and the others were just added on.
   BTW, I noticed Roger only plays bass on two tracks (although he does play
backing guitar on two others).

> To Roger, music has become secondary.  

   I think it's always been secondary, it's just that Gilmour was there to add
some melody to it.  I think Roger needed Dave's music to constrain what he
wrote into a relatively normal song pattern; without him Roger just wrote down
whatever the hell he wanted, without any regard for whether it went ten
syllables beyond the end of the musical line, and just left it at that.

Karl
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From: kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Re: HELP! Someone who lives in England!!
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:16:49 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: kjc7435@ultb

Try posting to soc.culture.british.  Over 75% of the people on the
newsgroup are English and reside in the U.K.  While you're at it,
ask the person who sends you the stuff you're looking for to get you a
copy of RECORD COLLECTOR magazine.  It's full of record stores,
collectors, etc. from all over Britain and the world (including the USA)
who sell import records.  (I got my All About Eve stuff that way).

Happy hunting!!

K. Cater.

e-mail: "kjc7435@ritvax.isc.rit.edu".
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From: cdaly@access.digex.com (CHRIS DALY)
Subject: Re: Amused to Death
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:51:17 GMT

In article <168567DB7.KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu> KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu writes:
>Anybody notice the dig at Dave and Co. in the lyric for the title track?
>Something about "racing their cars", which is how the remaining Floyds
>have been spending their time reciently. Anybody catch any other jabs on
>Rog's new album?

That is the only one that I know about.  If you are interested in Rogs side
of the Story (Plus good "digs" at the Masons) you should check out "ROCK LIVES"
by Timothy White.  This book has a GREAT interview of Rog and talks about the
"Original" Amused to Death album that Rog wrote in '88.  


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From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka)
Subject: Re: MTV Music Awards
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:05:00 GMT

: In article <196@npal.rn.com>, pbohannon@npal.rn.com writes:
:  In article <1992Sep9.231011.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka) writes:
: > Well I am in the middle of watching the MTV Music Awards. So far, they are 
: > good. Pearl Jam and the Red Hot Chili Peppers were GREAT. Bryan Adams and
: > Elton John were very good, too. But, Def Lep sounded aweful!!! And that is
: > coming from someone whose fav group is DL, too. Their sound was AWEFUL!
: > Well I am sure there will be A LOT of posts on this show tommorow, so I
: > will wait till then.......
:  
:  DL SOUNDED AWFUL? What did they play? I didn't get a chance to watch the
:  awards.. But DL is my favorite group! Bryan Adams and Elton John team up or
:  play seperate?
:  
:  -<Pat>-
:   

DL played "Lets Get Rocked" it sounded awful. Elton John and Bryan Adams
played seperate. :)

-Mel 
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From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: Need Help: San Fran./Oakland Natives
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:22:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Alex Alexander) writes:

>I will be in San Fransico from the 22nd to the 27th and was hoping to catch
>the Faith No More/Metallica/Guns N' Roses show at the Oakland Coliseum on
>Sept. 26.

>I need some help from anyone who lives there with the following questions:

>1.) Are there any legitimate tickets left through TicketMaster, etc.?

Dunno.  But it's most likely BASS.

>2.) If not, is it possible to buy one from a scalper outside the Colisuem?

More than likely.  The question is whether it will be a legitimate
ticket.  Do you want to drop $50 and then not be able to get into the
show anyway?

>3.) I'll be staying in downtown San Francisco. How much will a cab ride cost
>to and from the Colisuem? Can I BART it instead? Will BART be open at 1 a.m.
>when the concert is supposedly going to be over? Exactly how far away is the
>Coliseum from downtown San Francisco?

Good God, don't take a cab.  BART will cost about two bucks.  As far
as whether BART will run afterwards...well, standardly they either try
to make the concerts end in time for people to catch BART, or they
hold BART, though technically BART closes at midnight.  If nothing
else, you can always take a cab back, if you have to.

>4.) If you were from another town (I'm from Minneapolis), and wanted to see
>the show, exactly how would you go about it in the following scenarios:

>          CHEAP: I want to do it as cheaply as possible. Cheap seats, cheap
>                 transport, cheap food, cheap everything!

Try to get in one of the youth hostels, take BART, eat burritos, and
beg for a "miracle" ticket outside the Coliseum.  Works for the Deadheads.

>      EXPENSIVE: I don't care how much it costs, I want the best seat and a
>                 comfortable ride. (e.g. cab and buy a great seat from one
>                 of those ticket broker dudes in the newspaper, or what?)

I dunno, I just tend to buy tickets from BASS or from a trusted
friend.  I'd rather take BART than a cab because BART is right there
and you don't have to call it or wait for it.
From: pinky@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Burbank)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Amused to Death
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:12:17 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Ponte <MDP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <qtkn39b.mbennett@netcom.com>, mbennett@netcom.com (Mike Bennett)
>says:
>>
>>Along these lines, did anyone else notice (or, possibly hallucinate also) the
>>recycled Floyd themes ?  The barking dogs seemed to be sampled from 'Animals'
>>(same dog, possibly ?), sub- & backing vocals similar to DSOFM, mob noises
>>from
>>The Wall and the intro on Track 7 (Late Home Tonight, part II) made me think
>>of Wish You Were Here.  Not to mention, at various places throughout, it
>>sounded like Beck was reaching for a 'Oh look, I can play Gilmour better than
>>Dave' type of style.
>>
>>Anyone else notice this, or should I go back to my headphones & 'Meddle'
>>8-track ?
>    No you are right.   The Ballad at the beginning reminds me of a cross
>between Shine On and SOL.  Also for one of the songs (not sure) the
>keyboard is nearly exactly the same as the beginning of Us and Them. Not
>that that was bad.  Some of the lyrics sounded familiar too.. =)  I did,
>however, like Beck's guitar work, even if it was a Gilmour rip-off.  I
>just wish Roger would work on his vocals... =(    Ah welll.....


>            Ponte

I think Rog was trying to stake out his influence on PF.  
just a "ok, you guys get the name, i am the sound" type of 
statement.
From: pete@eo11.eoc.com (Peter Cockerell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Jim Steinman albums-do they exist?
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:40:49 GMT
Organization: EO, Inc.

>In article <1992Aug20.175020.2007@news.columbia.edu>  
>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>> 
>> There was a revamped "Bat Out Of Hell" mentioned by a couple of
>> European writers on USENET at different times.  Nobody on this
>> side of the ocean has heard of it; can somebody in Europe please
>> tell us exactly what this is?

I was remastered, so presumably got rid a lot of the appalling hiss
from the first version (which I'm sure was worse than the original
vinyl). They also added `Dead Ringer' from the second album as a bonus
track, which I thought was a bit incongruous (especially as it was just
tacked on to the end, so came after the [by now] traditional Steinman
`slow one at the end of the album').

Pete
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: bonk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Bonk)
Subject: Under the Bridge Question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:05:57 GMT

Q:  What are the lyrics of the "high" part at the end of the 

    song "Under the Bridge" by RHCPeppers?




ps. Loved the song from the first time I heard it.  Like the 
    video to "Breaking the Girl" too!









Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: shio@cc.keio.ac.jp (Atsushi Shionozaki)
Subject: Re: Billy Joel - Night and Day : What is it?
Organization: Comput. Center, Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:04:23 GMT

In article <BuF30M.5px@cs.vu.nl> walagerw@cs.vu.nl (Lagerweij WA) writes:

 >  I bought an Album recently called  Night And Day by Billy,
 >  First track is the title track and others are Cat and 
 >  The Hotel St. George (I don't remember them all, I'll post 
 >  the list after the weekend)
 >  the cover was an 1990-s pic of BJ live and it was supposed to
 >  be printed in 1992.
 >  It sounded like an attilla album.
 >  (this is a cd I'm talking about)
 >  Dous Anyboby know what this is exactly????

This is a bootleg CD (PULS029) of the second Hassles release called
"Hour of the Wolf". It contains all the songs from the original album,
but the track order is different. Also, the CD sounds like it was
mastered from vinyl and I think it sounds pretty bad (I didn't bother
listening to the entire CD though).

Billy Joel was in the Hassles for two albums and some singles.  The
first Hassles album entitled just "The Hassles" has been recently
released by EMI Records in the US on CD (0777-7-98828-2-3) (not a
boot!). It contains 8 bonus tracks which were not on the original
release. The liner notes hint at the release of "Hour of the Wolf"
though I have no further information.

Hope this helps.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:14:36 -0400 
From: Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: the Spin Doctors

Can anyone familiar with the Spin Doctors give me some background
info on the band?  Where are they from?  How many members?  etc.
They played here in Pittsburgh a month or so ago, but I really didn't
know anything about them then, so I missed the show.  But now I like
what I've heard.

--Tom
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: MTV Music Awards
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:53:23 GMT
Summary: def lep

> Elton John were very good, too. But, Def Lep sounded aweful!!! And that is
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree!  And I am their #1 fan!!

I was not happy, believe me, they don't sound bad live in concert!
I just saw 2 of their shows in Philly 8/14 and 8/15 and they were
phenomenal, incredible sound!  best def lep shows ever!

But damn, what happened on the mtv awards?  They also sounded awful
during that freddie mercury gig too.....hmmmm.....what equipment
do they have in concert that makes them sound so great that they
didn't have for the freddie show and mtv awards?

Christine
Def Lep's #1 fan


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Machin)
Subject: Mike Oldfield/TB2
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:45:42 GMT

Does anyone know anything about the upcoming release of Mike
Oldfields Tubular Bells 2.  I went to the local store today 
thinking it would be there and they didn't know anything about
it...

Dave Machin
machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: rpb@starr.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist)
Subject: Re: Blues Traveller?
Organization: NOAA Climate Research Division
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:43:43 GMT

In article <BuJnH4.ADL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
><LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>   I'm sure this has been covered before, but...
>>Who is Blues Traveller? What kind of stuff do they do? Is the new CD
>>worth the bucks? Thanks.
>
>	Blue's Traveller is a band that I think comes from Detroit
>and their sound is very similar to that of Living Colour.  My old
>roommate had some of their stuff and I really liked it so I'll tape
>it or buy it some day.  I don't know about their new album though.
>							Peder
>

    First, they come from New York.                              

    Second, though John Popper's (BT lead singer) voice sounds a bit
like the lead vocalist for Living Color, the musical differerences
between the two groups are pretty big.  The best way to describe their
sound is that it has quite a "groove" to it.  They are a four man band`
with the lead singer playing every sort of harmonica imaginable-- to the
point where it often is the lead instrument over the electric guitar.
They definately have a rock sound with (as you might imagine) a large
blues influence.   I would reccommend both their albums, though neither
is particularly "new".  (A new one should be out sometime early next
year.)  Usually people like their first album better, but I have grown
to appreciate both as being good for different reasons.

     - Robert
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: volchra@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Chris Volkert)
Subject: any Mr. Bungle fans?
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:27:38 GMT

Has anyone heard of a Mr. Bungle album, probably released on an indie lable
in L.A., which was released before Mike Patton joined Faith No More?  I'm
not talking about the album released in '91 on Warner Bros.  Any help would
be appreciated.

                                 Chris Volkert
                          volchra@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu               
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     -Nirvana, 'Scoff'                    Feel a bit like Beethoven"
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From: nikki@csc.liv.ac.uk (Miss. N. Cattrell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Lyrics to "Janies' got a gun" by Aerosmith
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:32:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <25857.2AA0862D@psycho.fidonet.org>, Curt.Shehow@p33.f75.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Curt Shehow) writes:
> 25 Aug 92, Elizabeth J Ehrhardt writes to All:
> 
>  > Message-ID: <1992Aug25.171423.14176@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>  >
>  > Anyway, my question of the hour is:
>  >
>  > In the song "Janie's Got a Gun" by Areosmith, what exactly did her daddy
>  > do?
>  >
>  > the words are something like: "what did her daddy do, what did he put her
>  > through?  He tried to something something baby, the man has got to be
>  > insane"
> 
>  I believe it goes (w/o going and listening to the song to be sure) : "He jacked a little bitty baby, the man has got to be insane."
>                                                          Cs.
>  
Listening to the live Donington '90 recording of Aerosmith, the lyrics are a 
lot clearer than on the record.  Tyler actually sings "he _raped_ a little 
bitty baby.. that man has got to be insane.." etc..  From what I can decipher
from the Aerosmith `Making of Pump" video.. whilst recording the song the 
producer (who's name escapes me), asked Tyler to change the lyrics to the 
song as he thought that they would be too offensive, for general listening..
but it seems that Tyler has reverted back to the original stronger lyrics
for live performances..

Nikki Cattrell

Liverpool University

 
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From: lobssuth@fig.citib.com (Lou Obssuth)
Subject: MTV / READING ROCK
Originator: lobssuth@swcdev
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:22:14 GMT


	DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN MTV WILL AIR ITS COVERAGE OF THE READING
	ROCK FESTIVAL?

	THANKS
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From: nin15b66@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: REVIEW: .38 Special / Lynard Skynard
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:39:06 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <1992Sep4.200529.20323@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>, djohna@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (John Ackerman 3568) writes:
>    Speaking of .38 Special...
> 
>    I heard recently that Guitarist/Lead Vocalist Don Barnes has returned
>    to the band. If this is true, best keep an eye peeled for them 
>    Wild-Eyed Southern Boys. Perhaps a return to popularity for good-old
>    foot-stompin' get-up-and-shake-yer-butt music.
> 
>    If you ain't hip to him yet...check out Travis Tritt...the boy flat
>    out cooks.
> 
>    Enjoy.
> 
>    Johnny A.
> 
>

What you have heard is true!  Barnes was back with the band, as I said in the
review.  He sounds great after five years away.  I for one hope to hear more
from these Wild Eyed Southern Boys.

Kevin
From: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Under the Bridge Question
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:56:15 GMT
Reply-To: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Sep10.175859.5376@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> lrose@nestor.uucp (82370s-punskovsky) writes:

>Interesting, Keidis is HIV positive?!  This is news to me, how
>factual is this?

Pretty sure that Keidis mentions this himself in the "Funky Monks" video.

Cheers,
Murray
muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:37:21 EDT
From: <LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Blues Traveller?

>I suspect what's "new" is their record company has re-released
>_Travelers and Thieves_ with an additional CD of live material
>(probably of EP length).  So they want us to buy a second copy of the
>album just to get this extra material!  I plan on writing the record
>company (I don't have the CD handy and I don't remember which one it
>is).
>ds

I'm the one that asked the original questions about the group. I did
pick up the limited edition CD with the free live one included...actually,
the two CD version was 50 cents cheaper here at State College than the
single!
   I guess it is a bit cheap to not release the second CD by itself, but,
if you want to buy it you are only paying a single CD price anyway. I don't
see what the problem is...new buyers like me get a great deal, and those
who already have the Travelers and Thieves album only have to pay the
normal price if they want the live CD...they just end up with a second
copy of T and T.
   If you are wondering, the Live CD, _On Tour Forever_, is 47:53 in
length and has 4 tracks...
     Onslaught           8:12
     Crystal Flame      14:08
     Optimistic Thought  4:06
     Mountain Cry       21:14   (with Carlos Santana)
   I just bought these CDs yesterday, but have listened to them
several times...I'm quite happy with the purchase. The live CD is
high quality and the band sounds great on it.

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From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Subject: 2 old U2 dates needed - help
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:00:46 GMT

I have one tape with:

"U2 - Some Fires Can Never Be Put Out, Chicago, Rosemont Horizon, '87"

and another with

"Dublin, Ireland - U2  1985"

does anyone have the dates for these? I remeber seeing a complete list of every concert they had done....or
was it Rush? umm - any help would be appt'd!

thanks
mike
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From: alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Alex Alexander)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: MAILING LIST: Guns N' Roses (Periodic Posting)
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:21:26 GMT
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