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From: wdsst3@cislabs.pitt.edu (William D Sands)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Talk is Cheap (MPP is under the hood and doing it!)
Keywords: I'll say that talk is cheap
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:21:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Comrades :

	Let's all do something to get this guy's account
revoked.  He's arrogant, illiterate, and misinformed.  Flood
his mailbox, threaten him, kidnap family members, throw lawn
darts at him from a moving vehicle, ANYTHING is better than
having to read this nonsense.  I will appreciate any
suggestions.  Any nitwit that says "Miami (noted Big East
power, by the way) will serve notice to the fact that Pitt
will find a way to beat you" is as thick as a whale omelet.

						-Bill S.

Makela : You could always meet me at the Pitt-Syracuse game Wednesday
night, if you can read the traffic signs between the
institution and the Civic Arena....
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Subject: Re: One two punch
From: ghjelmstad@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:00:10 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University


>	Two weeks ago, Georgia Tech played its best game of the year and
>beat Duke.  It had the unenviable task next of playing Carolina.  Predictably,
>Tech didn't have enough to deal with the Tar Heels and lost.  Then what       
>happened?  A horrendous slide.
>	Last week, Virginia upset Duke, only to face, and lose to, UNC the next
>game.  What did they do after that?  They lost to that same Ga. Tech squad that
>was playing so horribly.
>	Yesterday, Florida State upset Duke, and guess who they face next?  
>That's right, UNC.  (It's an interesting twist that these three teams play Duke
>and Carolina back to back, and Duke had to take the first crack.  I wonder how
>the schedule will shape up the second half of the season.)

So, what happens after the Duke-Carolina game on Feb 3rd?

..do the Tarholes get to go off and play with themselves ???
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:06:36 -0500 
From: James T Graves <jgraves+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Top ten reasons to be glad for KU's loss to Long Beach State


(This, of course, being the top ten good things for a KU fan...)

10. It wasn't a Big-8 game.

 9. Ugly low-scoring loss to an unranked team in January means they don't
    have to lose another like it in March.

 8. If Roy benches everyone who played poorly Monday, this could be 
    Watley's big chance to start!

 7. Escape that dangerous #1 ranking before the Missouri game

 6. Critics can now stop complaining that KU is peaking too early

 5. 3-a-days all week

 4. Brings KU's free throw average back down toward its usual 60% mark we 
    all know and love

 3. Long Beach State _not_ coached by Billy Tubbs

 2. Much easier to carry on a conversation in Allen Fieldhouse without
    loud cheering to get in the way

 1. Players will be pumped up for Saturday's big game against Rollins College

Jim

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Purdue vs Penn State
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:10:12 GMT

smaher@ismdqa.intel.com (Steve Maher ~) writes:
>Whoa, Jazzy!  Don't leave Kansas off that list: NCAA Champs '52, NCAA runner-
>ups to both Indiana and UNC (ooh, that hurts) in '53? and '57.  How about
>this: National Champs in '23!  Yes!  Look it up!  (Before THE TOURNEY(tm);
>they may have won the NIT to be it; not sure how it was picked...)  THAT'S
>tradition!  (Along with those other guys too!)

	Well, of course Kansas!  I should have put "etc, etc..." after my
	list.  Kansas just happens to be the 3rd most winningest program
	in history (after UNC and UK, respectively).  And, they're currently
	#1.  Sorry about the oversight.

	And sorry about the oversight to schools like Ohio St., Cincinnati,
	UCLA, etc, etc, etc...

	Jazzy J
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From: lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Keywords: 104-82 !
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:17:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: lindy.1k1ldfINNin
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: lindy.stanford.edu

In article <30462@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>still think Stoudamire is better this season though and unless things
>change drastically I'd have to give Damon the nod for 1 team all-pac 
>so either Stokes or Stoudamire will get robbed....
>
>

I don't know how serious you are about Stokes, but he will have to get his
numbers way up to have a chance to displace Haskins.  Haskins just had a great
weekend last week (something like 48 points and 27 rebounds--I know he had 17
rebounds in one game) and has been scoring 20 or more points game in and game
out.  Moreover, he's not bad defensively, though maybe Stokes gets the edge
here.  

Publicity is a weird thing.  You will probably retch at this, but I would not
be shocked if Reeves makes the first team.  From what I have seen, he has had
a disappointing year, but he was the preseason choice.  It is difficult for
people who vote to see every game (obviously, impossible), and I just don't
think the word on Stoudamire has gotten around yet. 

By the way, as wretched as Stanford has been this year, the one guy who 
deserves at least some consideration for the PAC-10 (assuming it is a 10-man
team again this year) is Marcus Lollie.  He is having a solid year and did
lead the PAC in assists last year.  Again, I wouldn't be shocked if Lollie
and Kidd make the team, or Edney and Kidd, which is not to say that I would
vote for Kidd yet.

Henry
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:47:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I thought the real rivalry started when Knight practically stole Eric
Anderson from under Henson's haircut.  Could somebody elaborate on what
the deal was with recruiting Hamilton (where is he these days, anyway)?

   I think Illinois was heavily recruiting Ellis at that time that scared
   Eric Anderson away. Lou was hoping to get Ellis and Anderson was a bonus.
From: mkain@asns.tredydev.Unisys.COM (Mike Kain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WHAT is a Billican (sp?)?
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:57:14 GMT
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Tredyffrin Engineering Offices


WOW.  I couldn't find it in the dictionary, either.  But it is the name
of the St. Louis University teams.  I think its spelled Billikens.



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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: All-time Jayhawks -- need more votes!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:40:12 GMT

haverty@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I don't remember all the players, but I think the best team we have
>ever had was the 1986 team.... with Calvin Thompson, Ron Kellog, Greg
>Dreiling, Cedrick Hunter... I don't recall if Mark Turgon was on the
>team then, but that team should have won the final four that year, but
>you know who ousted them out.  :)  (In case you don't know... ;)  it
>was Duke)  

	That certainly was a solid team -- especially at home.  Ron Kellogg
	turned a gritty performance in the Final 4, but Manning and Dreiling's
	foul trouble vs. Duke put them in.

	An interesting tidbit about the game -- didn't Johnny Dawkins (an
	83% FT shooter at the time) throw up an airball from the line during
	that game?

	Other players on that '86 team:
	Danning Manning, Chris Piper, Mark Turgeon, Jerry Johnson, Archie
	Marshall (blew out his knee in the Final 4 game), Altonio Campbell,
	Jeff Johnson, etc.

	Jazzy J

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From: crosen@sss.cba.ua.edu (Charles Rosen)
Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
Organization: Systems Support Services, University of Alabama
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:55:50 GMT

In article <C16yKK.KB6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
>Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
>Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:41:07 GMT
>domet@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>
>>Who are some of the THREE POINT shooters in Division I, NCAA Mens Basketball?
>
>	U might want to consider Travis Ford of Kentucky.  He was over 55%
>	before the Alabama game, and then went something like 1-2.
>	I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the league leaders.
>
>	For trivia, who is the all-time leader in 3-pt percentage in the
>	NCAAs?
>
>	Jazzy J
>
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I am not sure, but I seem to remember a guy from Wisconson (Green Bay 
maybe?) who hit over sixty percent.
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From: darrylw@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darryl Wood)
Subject: Re: BEST NCAA COACH! Who? Let's hear it!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:35:00 GMT

Neil McCarthy at New Mexico State, he is the best, I must say, just because.
That's why.  Either him or that skinny white boy at Dook.


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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Womens' arenas???
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:35:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.170436.14154@news.acns.nwu.edu> marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski) writes:
>In article <C1Gzpp.Bwu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
>dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>
>>>	The women's soccer team at UNC does permit the men's team to play on
>>>their turf.
>>
>>The women's soccer team at UNC could also kick the men's team's ass if it
>>wanted to.
>
>This is bull.  The NC men's teams that I've seen at Addidas/Met Life
>Invitational at Bill Armstrong/Little 500 Stadium at IU in Bloomington were
>pretty okay.  Is this year's that much sub-par?

Uh, Marek, don't say anything else until YOUR team wins TEN NATIONAL
CHAMPIONSHIPS IN A ROW CONVINCINGLY (a la the UNC women).  Oh, and the
teams at that tournament are usually Duke, State and maybe ACC partner
Virginia.

But I'm getting off subject here.  In reference to the original question,
the IU men and women both play in Assembly Hall, though the difference in
crowd is usually about 17,000 or so.





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From: domet@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UC-XU  CROSS TOWN SHOOTOUT!!! 
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:11:52 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

University of CINCINNATI BEARCATS  vs. XAVIER University MUSKETEERS

Tonight at University of Cincinnati's Shoemaker Center, 8:05 pm.

This is one of Cincinnati's most fierce rivals.. it dates back to the early
part of this century.. (Late 20's)

UC - leads overall in the series over XU 40 - 19
UC - has WON the last 2 years
XU - last won during the 1989-1990 season.

The game tonight features, UC's defense against a good offensive team in XU. 
UC, who many times this yyear has shut down the BIG MAN on the opposing team
will look to cut into XU's Grant's teaam leading average of 20ppg.

I will be there! (And it's damn hard to get tickets!)
I've seen people selling them for as much as $150! It's crazy I tell ya!

Luke
From: fvaughn@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Frederick Vaughn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Tourney Site Request
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:43:59 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

Have the sites for the NCAA (Men's)tournament been announced yet? If so,
could someone please post the list and (if available) which rounds will
be played where?

FRED

 
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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke Crushes San Francisco 117-73
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:21:11 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan27.175358.8060@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:
>Well, it would have been a good cheer if USF were on its way to 
>BC where they could take the Green Line trolley out to campus. 
>San Francisco has cable cars. I guess folks who grow up in suburban
>New Jersey tend to have a fuzzy understanding of public 
>transportation ...

Since there basically is NO public transportation in North Carolina
(where most Dukies are from), you're probably right.

BTW, I take it that since you go to Berkeley you must be Asian?

Nothing wrong with that; nothing wrong with being from New Jersey
either.  When one relies on old stereotypes (particularly those with
little or no basis in fact), it does not bode well for one's
credibility.

- Rob Mac K



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From: dale@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Dale Strommer)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:20:05 GMT
Subject: Re: The Duke Factor (Was: The Carolina Factor)
Organization: u-break-it, we-fix-it
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college

In rec.sport.basketball.college, dale@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Dale Strommer) writes:

>   In the Pac 10, teams still pay better against UCLA. In the WAC, they
    Gremlins, gremlins, gremlins, that should read play, not pay.


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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Biggest Upset of the Decade
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:17:31 GMT

Here's a big upset that is not well remembered.

I'm not sure of the date, but I think this game took place in the second round
of the 1986 NCAA tourney. Iowa State (with Jeff Hornacek??? and Jeff Grayer)
is playing highly rated Michigan. At the outset of the game, Billy Packer
makes some comment like "this is going to be like the varsity taking on the
JV".  Johnny Orr and the Cylcones end up beating the Wolverines and advance to
the Sweet 16.

Can somebody add some details to this, correct the dates etc.?

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."

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Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
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From: wbs@cybvax0.uucp (William B. Solomon)
Subject: Re: Good refs?
Reply-To: wbs@cybvax0.UUCP (William B. Solomon)
Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:29:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.215431.868@ualr.edu> bdwiles@acs.harding.edu writes:
>
>     I am a part-time, unpaid basketball referee (I do intramural and
>club games on campus).  I enjoy officiating and would like to get
>better before I start reffing for pay at the high school level.
>   Does anyone know of some good refs I can watch so I can improve?
>Thanks in advance.

You've got to be kidding.  There is no such thing as a good zebra.
Watch any game and you're bound to learn what not to do.
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William Solomon			wbs@cybvax0.UUCP
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UW-Mil's Von McDade
Date: 27 Jan 1993 00:21:57 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

>>Does anyone know what happened to Von McDade, former player on the University
>>of Wisconsin-Milwaukee basketball team?  He caught our attention a few 
>>years ago when UW-Mil played Illinois in the Illini Classic, and I was just
>>wondering.
>>
   I covered UW-Milwaukee when Von was around and quickly got used to his
   wild style of play. He was seriously entertaining. I remember one game
   where UWM was losing by about 12 to UM-Kansas City I think, and a missed
   shot by McDade brought probably the loudest response of the season from
   the crowd. He sank a 3, tossed in another 3 on UWM's next possession, had
   a steal and turned around in sank another 3, then got one more steal in the
   left corner and threw up another 3. It rattled in and out and the crowd
   emitted the loudest ooh I've ever heard. He scored nine points (and almost
   12) in a span of about 30 seconds. It was unbelievable.

   Anyway, the last I heard of McDade was that he had played at a pro-am in
   the area a while back. He had about 38 points at halftime, but walked off
   the court in the second half because he wasn't getting the ball enough.
   What a shame, a tremendous offensive talent (and was in the top 10 in the
   NCAA in steals that year) wasted because of a bad attitude.

   --salty



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From: creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman)
Subject: Re: Clearing up misconceptions about CSLB
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:11:20 GMT

In article <matthew.728071969@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>
>I don't know how people are defining "decade", but if you mean "in the
>last 10 years", then there have been plenty of upsets bigger than this.
>Miami over ?Georgetown? last year was bigger.
>
>So was Campbell over Duke in last year's NCAA tourney.

Geez!  I had forgotten all about that one!

Scott
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: BB vs Geography
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:42:27 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1993Jan22.215443.10359@news.uiowa.edu> wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
>gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>: 
>:  West coast schools do not cheat in recruiting. They do not offer drugs and
>: sleazy women to potential high school recruits, they do not threaten the
>: lives of the player's family members should they choose not to attend. All
>: of these things add up to why the West is out-recruited by the rest of the
>: country and often loses its top players to other regions. Of course the fact
>: that schools in the west require a player to actually attend class might
>: add to the situation...
>
>I *LOVED* this one.  Any responses from our panel of experts?  Besides, what
>does this say about the west coast kids who are taking the drugs and sleazy
>women, thereby prostituting themselves to the 'non west coast colleges'?

I'm sure that Gary was being mildly sarcastic, but there is some truth in
what he said. Virtually every school in the Pac-10 has a rule either written
or unwritten that forbid them from signing Prop 48 kids. Off the top of my
head the last Prop 48 kid I can remember in the Pac-10 was Dion Brown at
UW and that was 5-6 years ago when they signed him. There are probably some
others but I don't recall any.

Of course Cal signed Jason Kidd not knowing if he would pass Prop 48 or not,
but most of the schools in the conference could not have gotten Jason in
unless he met prop 48 standards, which he did.

That was one of Walt Hazzard's excuses when he lost John Williams to LSU,
that he would have never qualified academically anyways. Earl Duncan 
(Syracuse, Rutgers) and Stephen Thompson were both borderline guys out
of highschool also.




Russ Smith
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