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From: rhawk@netcom.com (Sean Ackley)
Subject: news reader for DOS.  (just like rn)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:13:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Need a news reader for DOS.
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Distribution: usa

I would like to know if there is a good news reader for DOS, just like the
rn program on UNIX?

Waffle is the best I have seen so far, but maybe rn has a DOS version?

the commands rn uses are so user friendly, and you can choose the news you
want, and keep better track of the news you have read, over that of Waffle.

thank you.

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From: sp@questor.UUCP (Steve Pershing)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: replies going to wrong address, vms list
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:47:01 PDT
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670

dlhpfm.uucp!dlh@abvax.icd.ab.com (daniel lance herrick) writes:

=> I'm trying to create a mailing list using the Vandenberg Mail Server. 
=> When mail comes to me on Waffle and I reply to it, the reply is
=> addressed to the Received from header and not to the Reply-to: header.

Rick is probably busy with a lot of other things, but he did promise
an update before this (now just past) summer, which would cure many
little problems (like passing NeXTmail).

My solution is to make all replies read:  "Reply-To: poster"

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Outbox2.uue
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:11:11 GMT
Organization: none

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:

>Works like a charm.  As I was using Outbox1 (Outfold), this new
>release is much simpler to use and the docs are straight-forward.
>Michael's program makes excellent use of V1.65's new folders.  If
>you keep copies of all outgoing traffic, this is an excellent way
>do it.

>And I use Stefan's RWMail to read the folders.  Nice way to put 2
>excellent 3rd party programs to use.

for those of us who didn't uudecode/unzip to see what the package(s)
did :-(

could you fill us in on what outbox1 and rwmail do and why we 
might care ?

[... editorial note - guys...please indicate above the uuencoded
	stuff what your stuff does when you post it so we'll know
	immediately if it's of interest (rather than requiring
	folks to do 'stuff' to get to the docs...]

	
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From: amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org (Alan Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:52:29 GMT
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> I just noticed a bounced email message, and tried to go into
> the "orphan" folder via SYSMAIL to look at it. There was no
> new mail, so I got the "To:" prompt. Exited, and tried SYSMAIL *
> to get a list of folders. I got a list of my OWN folders, not
> system's folders. Is there something I am overlooking here?

I just asked about this last week.  Nobody has responded with an
answer of how to do it with waffle.  A few mentioned dos tricks,
but most don't seem to care about bounces.  I'll post my trick pretty
soon.

- Alan

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From: burch@rhps.UUCP (Lee Burch)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: problems with wafmail 1.0
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:53:46 GMT
Organization: CrissySoft Incorporated


   wafmail 1.0 on my system is behaving most strangely, it finds
and packs up messages just fine if local but if remote (anyone is
logged on sysop or not) it runs through their join file and looks
in all the right news groups but finds no messages!

  does anyone out there running wafmail have any suggestions?
even an alternative or wafmail 3.0 would be welcomed.  some form
of offline reader would be greatly appreciated.
From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can't use SIMTEL, HELP!!
Keywords: simtel
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 12:25:21 PST
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

> marki@well.sf.ca.us (Mark L. Isikoff) writes:
> 
> > I have this problem I can't figure out...
> > 
> > Everytime I send mail (no Subject, only "help" in body) to the 
> > SIMTEL server at listserv@vm1.nodak.edu I get informed I've got 
> > a problem with the "From:" line in the mailheader.
> > 
> > Here is a portion of my static file 
> > 
> > node         : preimg%tct.UUCP
> > 
> > Is there something wrong here?
> 
> Yes. the percent hack is a kludge, and isn't recognized by some mailers.

It is a kludge, but it works most of the time if you do it right.  This
setup doesn't come close to being right, even with the kludge.

The proper (yeah, I know, nothing about % is proper...) form of the percent
hack is

    user%final.site@intermediate.site

This is the most widely recognized syntax, and is actually fairly common.
However, with a percent to the RIGHT of the @, I would be shocked if ANYTHING 
could get through.

> Then you can drop this % crap which is being tolerated by fewer sites
> all the time. Remember --UUCP is a pseudo domain. There is nothing
> that requires sites to honor it.

Yes, the other problem with your address.  By all means, get a domain address.

If you really have to live with the %-hack TEMPORARILY, what you need is
the following in your static file:

   node         : preimg.uucp
   netmail      : %W <%A%%preimg@some.real.domain>
   netnews      : %W <%A%%preimg@some.real.domain>

This will give you an address of the form:

   My Name <user%preimg@some.real.domain>

This has half a chance of working (as opposed to no chance at all).  If
they are both valid (some.real.domain is a real domain name and it knows
about preimg), then vm1.nodak.edu will accept it.  I have used this 
temporarily in the past so I know it works.

Note that some.real.domain does NOT mean .uucp

- Alan



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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 23:35:55 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:

> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
> 
> > 
> > Rule No. 6:  There is no Rule No. 6
> > 
> 
> Rule No. 7: No Pooftas!
> 

Rule No. 8:  There is NO mistreating of the abos in any way!  (if
there's anybody looking)

[we should probably stop this now before we get to "IIIIIIImanuel Kant
was..."]
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  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
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From: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Running out of memory during 'M'ail
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:53:35 GMT
Reply-To: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Organization: The Proteus Group, Montreal Canada

As a solution to DOS Waffle running out of memory during a MAIL
operation I am trying to use Desqview to spawn another window
for the RMAIL.  I've done this sucessfully for RNEWS.

What I've done is to modify ./extern/_system to call a fake
RMAIL (!RMAIL) which actually spawns another DV window and passes the user
name and filename to RNEWS:

mail     /slash /command="!RMAIL %A %i"

!RMAIL then calls 'dvload' which spawns the RMAIL nad passes username (%A)
and filename (%i).

It all works.. except:

The file created by the editor (./user/<username>/_edit) only contains the
text of the email and does not include the Subject: Cc: and any other
optional header lines I require.  The end result is that email gets sent out
without these header lines.

My question is "Where does Waffle put in these lines when it calls RNEWS"?
It sure doesn't pass these to RNEWS via the ./extern/_system file nor does
it pass the lines in the _edit file.

Anyone have any ideas?


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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Wrong version of DIRSCAN.EXE within NN270.ZOO!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:32:48 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

Hello,

accidently I put the wrong version of DIRSCAN.EXE within the file
NN270.ZOO on 'mail-server@giraffe.in-berlin.de'. If you run DIRSCAN.EXE
without any parameters you shouldn't see version 2.04. The right version
for NWREADER 2.70 and 2.71 is DIRSCAN version 2.09. Please order the
file 'modem/waffle/dirscan.zoo' if you have any problems with NWREADER.

Sorry! It was a mistake from me!

        Hannes

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:53:35 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org (Alan Millar) writes:

> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
> 
> > I just noticed a bounced email message, and tried to go into
> > the "orphan" folder via SYSMAIL to look at it. There was no
> > new mail, so I got the "To:" prompt. Exited, and tried SYSMAIL *
> > to get a list of folders. I got a list of my OWN folders, not
> > system's folders. Is there something I am overlooking here?
> 
> I just asked about this last week.  Nobody has responded with an
> answer of how to do it with waffle.  A few mentioned dos tricks,
> but most don't seem to care about bounces.  I'll post my trick pretty
> soon.

That's right, you did. I'm thinking just leaving one piece of mail
in the system mailbox.f is an easy work around... interested in
what you come up with.


--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 2 of 5 Waffle site have UUCICO problems hanging during transfer
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 01:04:12 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Presoft Architects

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger) writes:
> 
> : Then in the middle of file N, I see lights on the receiving modem
> : indicating data is being sent and received but the transfer stopps. 
> : UUCICO never resequences.
> 
> : Why these sites and consistantly? 
> 
> Try switching to the BNU fossil driver.  It shouldn't make any
> difference, but my experience shows that it can.  I pump a hundred
> megs or so a month out of remote into any number of system configs
> (including uACCESS for the MAC) with a minimum of hassles.  Some
> things to tweak are the fossil's xmit and rcv buffers (try leaving
> them at 1K, unless your using large block sizes, then use 4-8K),
> the uu.delay interval, and uu.time (mine's set to 90).  Also, use
> uu.engine : 0, if you've been experimenting with Tom's extensions.

Thanks for the advice.  I will try it.  My site successfully gets
about 5-10 meg of mail and about 300 meg of news per month no
problem.  Only once of my connecting sites has this problem.  Very
strange.

Steve
   
 Steve Kohlenberger, PreSoft Architects      Internet: steve@presoft.com
 Novell Professional Developer                            (714) 538-6002
 Specialists in NLM and Disk/Tape Driver development for NetWare 3.X/4.X

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: EXPLODE
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:13:42 GMT

In <1992Sep12.224353.307@et.tudelft.nl> mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:
>Where is 'EXPLODE' for anonymous FTP ?

ftp.ee.umanitoba.ca  under  pub/msdos/waffle

Also I have uploaded this to simtel20 (and its mirrors like oak) as
msdos/waffle/explode.zip, it should appear soon.

Have fun.
-- budi
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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News readers for Waffle.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 23:44:54 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
>
> jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein) writes in part:
> 
> > You have to run the programm DIRSCAN.EXE first. This programm will
> > create a database which is needed by NWREADER.EXE.
> 
> I haven't been able to figure out how to get DIRSCAN to run
> either.  You don't realize how much you miss the docs until you do...

All programms of Stefan (RWMAIL, NWREADER, DIRSCAN, EXPIRE) give you a
help if you run them without any parameters. DIRSCAN will be started
with the config file as parameter.

DIRSCAN x:\yyyy\nwreader.cfg

It will only use the first entry of the config file.

        Hannes

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: 1.65 for Xenix - where is it?
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:38:20 GMT

tim@qed.cts.com (Tim Capps) writes:

>For an update?  ... An UPDATE?  You have got to be kidding (or Tom does).
>That's what I paid for 1.64.  Now, I'm all for paying for software I use, but
>silly me, I do expect a discount on the next version.  Hell, most companies
>provide the next release at no cost at all!

Obviously, the original poster was referring to buying the software.

Updates are provided free (at least, my 1.65 update was free, but I had to
ask for it...)

MD
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: How is the .D file's name generated from the .X file?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:44:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.094006.9159@news2.cis.umn.edu> cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Ahmet Cosar) writes:
|I noticed that the first character, "?", changes for different .X files.
|How does the uuxqt program decide this first character for waffle?

It's for case mapping.  Read network.doc, the section called "WAFFLE'S
FILENAME MUNGING", it starts on line 1309 of my 1.65 network.doc .

  Bill
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From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: SLIP or PPP and Waffle
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:41:31 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

I will shortly have a part-time SLIP and/or PPP connection to the
Internet, mostly for checking out the SLIP capabilities of the
DESQview/X TCP/IP network manager to/from my place of work.

Assuming I have a SLIP connection active, how can I use it to get news
and/or mail into Waffle?  I don't mean NNTP, I want to bring it
physically over to my local hard disk.  With an active Internet
connection, I am assuming I can get the news from anywhere, as long as
arrangements have been made with the sysadmin of the site I would get
it from.

This is all being done with MS DOS, by the way.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Running a "setup" job after new user signup
Keywords: 1.65, signup, *DO
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:11:42 GMT

stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz) writes:

>After a new user completes the questionnaire found in
>/waffle/system/signup, I would like to invoke a batch file to send the new
>user a mail message (and other things).  The *DO !doscommand structure in
>the signup file gives me some of what I need, but if I use something like

Well, outside of the batch file need, I do this:

NOTE: WAF165 allows a newuser command.  Seems you can pass %A as %1 to your
batch file:

newuser /shell /command="f:\WAFFLE\BIN\rmail -fralphs %A <f:\waffle\text\newuser.inf"
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 21:07:57 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> Why not just add the following lines to the end of your POLLing batch
> file?
> 
> if exist \user\system\orphan.f copy \user\system\orphan.* \user\{your dir}
> if exist \user\system\orphan.f del \user\system\orphan.*
> 
> This will move the orphan folder into your user directory where you
> can access it easily.

Amazingly simple.  But this will overwrite any old orphans that
you may have onhand.  Might want to leave the orphan in user
intact and just copy new orphan traffic.  Also you won't get the
auto-notification of new orphans.

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     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
From: stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 2 of 5 Waffle site have UUCICO problems hanging during transfer
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:14:23 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> Some things to tweak are the fossil's xmit and rcv buffers (try leaving
> them at 1K, unless your using large block sizes, then use 4-8K),
> the uu.delay interval, and uu.time (mine's set to 90).  Also, use
> uu.engine : 0, if you've been experimenting with Tom's extensions.

OK, Ralph, you've got me curious on this one ---- I grepped the docs, and
can't find a reference to uu.engine.  What does uu.engine do, and what
are the legal parameter values?

   Stuart L Labovitz                    Internet:  stu@valinor.mythical.com
    (insert standard disclaimer here)       UUCP:   uunet!valinor!stu

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      and it holds the universe together.      --- Carl Zwanzig
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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Folder magic for orphan and outbox
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:12:29 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org> writes:

> After all the discussion recently about how to read the orphan folder,
> I decided to post what I finally came up with. 
[...]
> for %%f in (%mailfiles%) do copy %mailfolder%/b+%mailmarker%+%%f %mailfolder%

This line will append the "^A^A^A^A" sequence to the copied file.  If
the copied file is a mailfolder, there's _already_ an MMDF delimiter at
the end of the file.  Doesn't this cause problems with reindexing the
file, especially if you have appended to that mailfolder before?

I've found that the only time you need to write "^A^A^A^A" is when you
are creating a new folder.
--
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  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
                      -- Mr Wiggen, of Ironside and Malone (Monty Python)
From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Problem with write-command ?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:06:19 EDT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

Anyone else noticed problems with the write command ?  I just got the
wcp161.zip uuencoded from a mail server, and when I saved it I twice
got uuencode file interrupted by ^A's.  Perhaps a length limitation ?
I ended up taking the whole mailbox.f into emacs and munging it there.

   /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jybox.jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
  /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */
 /* Mail: Kauppakatu 1B18/SF-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N25.44E */
/* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: DTR/AT do not work... need an axe.
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 10:25:33 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic  - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us writes:

> Thanks for suggestions on my modem not hanging up problem and thus, causing
> the "Awaiting Call" never to menstruate. (........'s) and thus, hangs the
> system until a forced reset.
> 
> DTR doesn't do beans with AT. The modem just get's unruly and says, DTR? Ha,
> what's that...


You should be able to set your modem so it hangs-up and resets when DTR is
dropped. I use 6 diiferent brand modems and they all have this setting.
Try typing the following in while in terminal mode:

    ATZ
    AT&C1&D2&S1
    AT&W

If it won't do this the problem is your modem, not the software. 



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