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From: dcblake@tsugo.engin.umich.edu (David Charles Blake)
Subject: RE: Jewish Murderers
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 14:27:52 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: dcblake@tsugo.engin.umich.edu



  I post this out of disgust.  Jews are just people.  Of course there are
murderers who are Jewish.
  Fall '92 I had a class at Milan Men's correctional facility through U-M's
sociology department.  Our class was about Native Americans.  
  Near Xmas as we (the class and the senior security officer) walked across the 
yard, someone made the comment "That better be a 'Holiday Tree,' for the Jewish
inmates" in a joking tone.  The officer said, very seriously, "It is.  We do
have Jewish inmates."  
  If you are not familiar with Milan Prison, I will give you a background on 
it.   Milan is a Federal Medium Security Prison.  The only execution in 
the state of Michigan's history was at Milan.
  To quote the officer at orientation - "There are no angels here."
  The two common crimes that the men commited were rape and murder.
  The most common sentence is 25 years. 
  
  Our local (Ann Arbor) Hillel sponsors a group that goes there to lead 
minyan.  

  

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From: davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami)
Subject: Re: Muslims killed in Yeguslavia
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:48:10 GMT

I just read a newspaper article in a Israeli paper "Maariv" on the
Arab response to the awful situation in Somalia (a faithful member 
of teh Arab league). The response was quite quaint, the rich Gulf 
states hadn't move a finger, Morrocan reporter called on his readers
not to remorse on their actions because the Somalis are not real Arabs
anyway [Paraphrase from memory] - one paper wondered who accepted
Somalia into the Arab League in the first place.

The passionate Irani responses to Bosnian Moselm situation were no
where to be seen, [ since there was no Jihad and turbulence to ride 
on - the reporter's conjecture ].

I hope that now that Somalia got attention in the Western press some
Arabs will help their brethren.

I think that this cynical attitude that the Arab GOVERNMENTS show is 
in no way representative of the feelings of the Arab people which I'm
sure is humane and sensitive as any other nation. 

I think the Arab people should change this GOVERNMENTAL insensitivity
and show his real feelings not only in cases of Moslems hurt but in
other cases as well. [ In Hebrew we have a saying "Your own city's poor
are first in line" - so I understand that caring for Arabs in distress
is a positive step in this road to reform governments' attitude]

David.
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From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish Popes? (was Vatican, Israel and Hidden Children)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 10:47:25 GMT
Organization: "The Private site of Manfredo Tichauer"

sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal) writes:

> Have their been previous popes who were born Jewish?
> Have their been popes who were from well-known Jewish families
> perhaps apostated a few generations before?
>  (In this one, can anyone confirm or deny the story
>  I have heard that the Medici's were an old Jewish family
>  that for one reason or other had converted before old Lorenzo?
>  Include sources if you have any.)
  
The first Pope, Peter, and his immediate successors were of jewish births.
Also Anacletus II (1130-1138) was of jewish birth. The Medici Popes were very
friendly to the Jews, and may be because of that the opinion that they were
of jewish descent.

See Encyclopaedia Judaica, Bd.13, p.831 



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From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:30:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Aug31.131851.17274@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal) writes:
>
>[...] Pogroms and
>expulsions were not unknown in Poland, either.  Pabianice (from
>whence a part of my family came) had just allowed the Jews to
>live there again around 1800 after finally abandoning its
>non tolerandus Judaius status. 

Around 1800 Pabianice was part of Germany (all ex-polish land west of
Vistula river became part of Germany or Austria in 1794). After the
Congress in Vienna "de jure" or Napoleons defeat "de facto" Pabianice
became a part of Russia. Expulsion of Jews from this city was probably
done by the Russian authorities. BTW, word pogrom (which is of the ukrainian
-russian origin) means: massive killings - and can hardly be used in this
case. You better learn some history before accusing someone. 

> Similar to Cracow where the [...]

Ghetto in Cracow was not different from other ghettos in Western Europe at 
that time (XIII CEnt). Pardon, there was a difference: nobody was killing
Jews in Cracow
>
>		Seth Rosenthal
>
>Disclaimer: All opinions are my own, not my employers'.


--

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Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter | to do it well,
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                | learn to enjoy doing it badly.
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From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: liver ---> spleen
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:01:30 GMT

In article <dobo.715275757@swalwell> dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W.
Dobosiewicz) writes:

>The government organised nothing of the kind. The "shop Christian"
>campaign was organised by political parties that-by accident, maybe-were
>in opposition to the government of the time. The campaign (and many other
>antisemitic motions) had considerable success. The government did nothing
>for or against it. Check your sources.

Our Polish net.friends would have us believe that antiSemitism was
government sponsored when Polish territory was controlled by Germany,
Austria, or Russia.  When it was controlled by a Polish government they
would have us believe antiSemitism was caused by rogue elements or
opposition political parties.

How convenient.

Revisionism or denial of responsibility?
-- 
Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep2.130130.7212@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>
>Our Polish net.friends would have us believe that antiSemitism was
>government sponsored when Polish territory was controlled by Germany,
>Austria, or Russia.  When it was controlled by a Polish government they
>would have us believe antiSemitism was caused by rogue elements or
>opposition political parties.
>
>How convenient.
>
>Revisionism or denial of responsibility?
>-- 
>Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
>	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton

If you don't see the difference between Polish and Russian (Tzarist) goverments
towards Jews, you should perhaps take a good history course. 
IMHO, Sam you are not different from some of my compatriots on the net (whom
I am ashamed of). All of you distort the history, just a little bit, to satisfy
your own wicked ego. YOu're unable to raise above your narrow point of view,
moreover individuals like you, would always throw insults on peple seeking some
common ground. You always have to have everyone labeled according to your
beliefs and (mis)understanding. Finally, and this is typical, you are
always eager to disregard facts not fitting to your perfect, false picture.
--

Krzysztof Kniaz, University of Pennsylvania | If you can't learn  
Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter | to do it well,
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                | learn to enjoy doing it badly.
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From: er@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Elie Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Se`udat haMafseket
Reply-To: er@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Elie Rosenfeld)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:15:19 GMT

In article <87196@netnews.upenn.edu>, weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
|> In article <9208211829.AA18375@ptms_dev.sbi.com>, gertler@ptms_dev (User - Don Gertler) writes:
|> >Why an hour or so before the fast?  Your fast always begins immediately
|> >after your last morsel of food.  Why not eat right up to the permitted
|> >limit?
|> 
|> For YK it's required to accept the fast earlier anyway.  For TB, the last

Yes, but all that means is that you don't keep eating until exactly sunset.
I assume everyone finishes their meal quite a few minutes before sunset so
they can travel to shul for Kol Nidre.  There's no halachic need to finish
the meal yet another hour before that.  If you fast better that way, fine,
but it's not a requirement.
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From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: CLINTON TEXT: ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:46:25 GMT

nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:

>>Palestinian State
>>
>>The Palestinians have the right -- as specified in the Camp David Accords -- to
>>participate in the determination of their future.  But they do not have the
>>right to determine Israel's future.  For that reason, Bill Clinton opposes the
>>creation of an independent Palestinian state.
>>

>The creation of a Palestinian state will determine the future of Israel? What
>kind of statement is this? 

Sometimes people come up with the right position for the wrong reason.
Since there already are two Palestinian states in existence, one Arab
and one Jewish, it's a moot point.
From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: What is Tanya
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:36:11 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

YK>To: saroff@msc.edu
YK>To: yy@corner.wpb.fl.us
YK>Reply-To: saroff@msc.edu
YK>Subject: Re: Tanya 1 of 3
 
YK>Could you explain what Tanya is about?
 
YK>-- saroff@msc.edu Minn Supercomputer Center,Inc --
 
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                     Fax:624 6550          Minneapolis, MN 55415 --
 
*************************************************************************
 
Tanya is "the bible" of ChaBaD Chasidic philosophy. It was written by 
the "Alter Rebbe" ( lit. the old rabbi) the first of Rebbe of the ChaBad 
-
Lubavitch Dynasty. Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, the author of the 
Tanya,
was a disciple of the Magid of Mesritch  who was the successor to the 
Baal Shem Tov - founder of the Chasidic movement some 300 years ago.
 
The book of Tanya, encompasses 5 parts to it. "Likutei Amarim", "Shaar
Hayichud VeHoEmuna"; Igeret Hateshuva; "Igerert HaKodesh"; "Kuntres 
Achron".
 
The Alter Rebbe, takes the teachings of the Zohar (Kabbala) and explains
them to us. This enables us to understand the esoteric parts of the Torah 

and have an even closer connection to G-d.
 
Thus, he makes us UNDERSTAND the meaning of the Mitzvot - commandments
- of G-d and they take on a deeper and personal meaning in our 
observance. The word Mitzvah comes form the word Tzavta VeChibur - 
connection.
 
The name ChaBaD is an acronym for the words Chochmah Binah Daat - 
wisdom, understanding and knowledge. It is incumbent upon us to not 
only know Torah and observe the Mitzvot in a "blind way" but it must also 

become a part of us and thus our life becomes permeated with an absolute 
love for G-d and His Wisdom (which is the Torah) and the performance of 
the Mitzvot.
 
Through the study of Tanya in general and Chassidut in particular one 
is able to obtain this knowledge and come a step closer to fulfillment of 
his/her purpose in life on this world, and make the world a dwelling 
place which is fit for G-d, and thereby bringing us into the Geula 
Shleima - complete redemption - through the Righteous Mashiach. May he be 
revealed speedily to us all.
 
In your particular city - Minneapolis, there is a Chabad Lubavitch 
Center,
with whom you can get in touch with. I forwarded your name to Rabbi Yosef
Shagalow - 612-593-9295.
 
Shabbat Shalom, Y.Y. Kazen
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From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: Re: Auschvitz and $$$ & The Ontario Press Council
Organization: liver ---> spleen
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:03:14 GMT

In article <87079@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
(Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:

>In article <1992Aug26.123152.28125@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
>saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:

>>During the war, I beleive there would have been far fewer Polish Jews in
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^
>          Has anyone ever estimated that? Whould you give us some numbers
>(or sources)?

Using typical revisionist tactics, you took this out of context.  All I
said was that had there been no Poles helping the Nazis far fewer Polish
Jews would have been murdered.  Compare the percentage Jewish population
in Poland and in Denmark and "far" becomes very conservative.
-- 
Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
		Note new machine name
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
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From: MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni)
Subject: A Jewish (?) Point of View (was Woody should be shot)
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:31:05 +0300

In: <86906@netnews.upenn.edu>
rubinoff@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Robert Rubinoff) commented:

>In article <1992Aug24.134604.1539@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> blda@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writ
>>[...]  I say
>>Woody and all other child abusers should be taken away
>>and shot.
>
>There has not been a shred of credible evidence publically presented that he i
>guilty of child abuse.  All we have are accusations from Mia Farrow (who is
>understandably very angry and hence probably not at her most objective) and
>hearsay reports of testimony from a child being interrogated, and hence subjec
>to coaching and encouragement, by Mia Farrow.
>
>Not to mention that this is a very peculiar approach to applying the death
>penalty, at least from the Jewish point of view.

I had  no intention to  take part  in this rather  gossipy  discussion
about what Woody Allen did or did not  do and to whom.  I also did not
think that everything a Jew does (or does not) makes the act cultural,
and especially an act of "Jewish Culture".

Now Robert  elevated the whole  matter to  be regarded from  a "Jewish
point of  view", and thus one  has to use "Jewish"  criteria which for
some  on scj  means Halakha.   So who  cares if  the testimony  of Mia
Farrow was based on anger or  if the child interrogated was coached by
her? Clearly all  the evidence is no  good as both Mia  Farrow and the
child are FEMALES  and thus unworthy of giving evidence  and on top of
that they  are Gentiles  which disqualifies  them doubly  to act  as a
witness.

>   Robert

    Michael Shimshoni
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From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:04:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.090218.17033@funet.fi>, defee@tukkasotka.tut.fi (Irek Defee) writes:
> In article <2060@dutiws.tudelft.nl> santen@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Marieke.van.Santen.IS-tel-7216) writes:
> 
> >When in 1942 the first jewish resistance started in Vilna & Warsaw, they 
> >did not only have to fight germans, but also polands (especialy the
> >Armia kraiowa). 
> 
> If you mean, e.g., Warsaw ghetto uprising, that's completely ridiculous.
> 

Polish and Lithuanian partisan groups frequently fought over
what to do with Jewish refugees found in the forest.  See the
Documentary "Partisans of Vilna" for some more on this.

> >After the 1943 uprise in Treblinke, about 487 jews succeeded in escaping from 
> >Treblinke most of them were killed by the Polish resistance..........
> >etc. etc.
> 
> Please cite your sources, "etc.", looks like a sick folklore.
> 

Does the original poster mean Sobibor?

Anyway, in Martin Gilbert's book Holocaust, he describes
the Warsaw uprising by the Poles against the Germans.  About
1000 Jews who were hiding in Aryan Warsaw came out of hiding
to fight side by side with their countrymen.  About 500 died.
250 of these were executed by the Polish resistance, not the
Germans.

		Seth Rosenthal
From: tedrick@whistle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Crowley's Significance? (Hitler)
Date: 30 Aug 1992 04:55:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: whistle.berkeley.edu

<Please don't discuss Crowley in soc.culture.jewish.  Followups to
<alt.magick.

OK, but could someone please explain "why" to me?

Since Crowley's disciples ended up killing some 6 million of us,
it seems worthy of some discussion if we are to avoid a repetition.

Dusty Sklar, in "The Nazis and the Occult" (a book I have mixed
feelings about, but anyway ...) says (pages 66-67) "The swastika
was a key symbol to Golden Dawn, headed by Satanist Aleister Crowley,
who claimed that the Nazis had stolen the sacred swastika from him."
And (page 93) "The SS was an occult society. This may enlighten us
as to how more than a million SS men could change, in the space of
a few years, from ordinary citizens to mass murderers."

Personally I don't think the mystics of the Islamic world are any
more friendly to the Jews than the mystics in the SS, so I am
really confused as to why discussion of this evil is taboo here.
It seems to me to be the fundamental issue that needs to be
understood if Jewish culture is going to survive. What is the
error in my thinking?
From: santen@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Marieke.van.Santen.IS-tel-7216)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:28:58 GMT
Organization: T W I, Delft University of Technology

etc. etc.
when Auschwitz was built, it was built with the help the so called 
"gruene" prissoners, who became the role of capo. They were mainly 
Polish prisoners. Poland was (for jews) parted in 39 gettos. When in 
1942 the first jewish resistance started in Vilna & Warsaw, they did not 
only have to fight germans, but also polands (especialy the Armia kraiowa). 
After the 1943 uprise in Treblinke, about 487 jews succeeded in escaping from 
Treblinke most of them were killed by the Polish resistance..........
etc. etc.

Mischa van Vlaardingen.
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From: MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni)
Subject: A Can of Worms
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 17:48:42 +0300

In: <5VDRPB6w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu brings:

>From: sa@corner.wpb.fl.us (Sheldon Ackerman)
>
>To: stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger)
>
>SS> "technically" a goy, I ask who are you to "decide" that only
>SS> your sect
>SS> knows how to define who a Jew is?  Also, who gave you
>SS> monopoly control over
>SS> our religion (in fact, don't you represent barely 10% of the
>SS> worldwide
>SS> Jewish population; that's hardly a controlling interest)?
>SS> --
>SS>        Stan Krieger
>
>What do percentages have to do with it? If 90% of the Jews intermarry or
>eat bacon, it makes it OK? If the majority of individuals are on drugs,
>then who are we to make drugs illegal?

Here we have  another excellent example to show the  arrogance of this
one sect of the  Jewish religion, or at least of  some of its members.
Stan had asked how they, a small minority, could claim the monopoly to
determine who  is Jewish, not for  themselves but for all  other Jews.
The answer of Sheldon is very simple.  Essentially he says, we deserve
that monopoly  because we claim  it, because  *we* are right.   And in
order to show the inferiority of  all other views but his own, Sheldon
compares those to "drugs".  What a can of worms!

>Sheldon Ackerman

 Michael Shimshoni
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Subject: Expert editing pass for SCJ FAQ Draft
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:58:55 GMT

The SCJ FAQ, currently in pre-release draft 4, is ready to be
submitted to some rabbis to check for errors.  If you are such
a person and are willing to look it over, please send e-mail to
me at levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu to arrange for it to be sent in
a format you can read.

Submission of the FAQ draft to the net at large will b'n take place
after this "expert" editing phase.

Rob

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Should a Jew settle in Israel?
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:53:23 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

dr = rothberg@bimacs.BITNET (Danny Rothenberg)
ms = MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni) writes:

ms:  As he was every day with Maimonides, this  could be considered
dr: I hate to break it to you, pal, but RaMBaM=Maimonides!

I think Michael knows that.
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