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From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: garlic/brewers yeast tablets?
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:28:02 GMT

well, after debate, I am trying garlic/brewers yeast tablets for my
Chinese Shar-Pei (always wondered, at what point do you drop the word
'Chinese'??)...she is having skin problems- gosh, what a surprise!
(shar-pei- chinese for Vetenarian gets a new sports car)...

does anyone know anything about pros/cons of garlic?
good luck/bad luck?

q? at what point do you stop giving it to the dog?
thanks
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Stacey Curtis <sec@csc.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: How strong are Siberian Husky's ?
Organization: University Of Canberra
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:53:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.125443.13691@sunbim.be> Jurgen Debedts,
jdb@sunbim.be writes:
>I'm looking for personal experiences on this one.
>I have at home a Siberian Husky, and I'm looking for some advise.
>
>Lately, several people have found it to be there duty, to try and 
>scare me, telling me that Husky tend to die sooner, and get ill faster
>and any other bread. In fact the rumours are quite opposite: some say
>that they are as tough as a rock, others say that they are week as a
baby.
>
>
>What are your experiences on this? Are there special things to look out
for?

My Siberian Husky Breeding friends own Huskies as old as 17 years old. 
Our boy, Pernod the Scavenger,  is very healthy and strong, though I
wouldn't say as tough as a rock - but he is physically capable of doing
whatever he wants and isn't restricted by any physical condition.  He's
not very obedient (that's typical Siberian Husky trait, I've come to
believe), and when he gets into trouble for doing naughty Sib stuff ("Oh,
sorry, were you talking to me, did you want ME to come to YOU, Oh you had
to come to me instead,"etc) becomes very babyish and cuddly and tends to
get away with it.  I haven't met anyone who can stay genuinely angry with
a Sib for longer than a minute.  Feed your dog with good quality food,
watch that he does not get overweight, exercise well, keep in an
escape-proof yard and love immensely.  Most of the Sib deaths that I've
heard about would really be classed as Death By Misadventure (Getting run
over by cars after escaping, shot by farmers after escaping etc).

Hope this helps

Stacey, Kodi (the wonder dog), Mali (Super Bitch) and Pernod (the
Scavenger).
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Retired Seeing Eye Dogs
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:09:03 GMT

hello all!  i'm a new reader to the group, and i was wondering if anyone out
there could help me.  i'm a student at hampshire college in amherst, ma.,
interested in obtaining a retired seeing eye dog as a pet.  one of my good
friends on campus is blind and highly reccommends getting one, but i can't get
a hold of her to find out where to get more information since she's on leave
this semester.  anyone know where there is a breeder/chapter which offers
retired seeing eye dogs for adoption?  please e-mail me at
lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu as soon as possible, or post to the list.  thanks!

					lisa
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:43:05 GMT

In article <21020155@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> jodi@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jodi Peterson) writes:
>Regarding taking pictures of your pets--I couldn't agree more!
>
>This really hit home for me. My beautiful 8 year old cocker girl died last
>night, after battling autoimmune hemalytic anemia for a week.
>We took her home from the hospital for one last day with us, and
>as I was looking for pictures of my darling I could find only
>about 15, and *none* from the past year. So I took pictures
>of her yesterday, resting in the backyard, but they're no substitute
>for pictures of her when she was healthy and vibrant.
>
>It's so, so sad to say goodbye to my sweet girl.
>We spent the whole day with her yesterday, and it seemed to
>cheer her up so much to be back in her own home. The vet came
>to euthanize her at 1:00, and I was crying so hard I could hardly
>see. Brandy sat up and wagged her little stump of
>a tail, and my kind vet said "I don't think any of you are ready
>for this. I'll come back later. Brandy will let you know when
>it's time." So we stayed with her for 6 more hours, talking to
>her and petting her, telling her all the wonderful things
>we remembered about her. Finally, as the sun set, she began to
>weaken. She stopped wanting water, and could no longer lift
>her head. She looked at me with such a sad, tired expression,
>and I knew it was time. We carried her into the house and laid
>her on her pillow in front of the fire. Then my vet came again
>and eased her out of her suffering.
>
>I miss my girl so much. She left behind a hole in my life
>and heart that will never be filled.   
>
>
>--jodi "who will always be Brandy's mom"
>
>jodi@fc.hp.com

Jodi (and all of us who have ever lost a pet):

I have a good friend who works with me who also lost a dog this
past weekend.  Her dog was five years old and had to be put down
because her kidneys failed.  Each time I hear of someone losing a
beloved animal, I remember the pain of losing my poodle of ten years.
Yes, he did and always will fill a very special place in my heart, but
I have been very lucky to have found two other wonderful dogs who have
filled my life with love and joy.

There are no words to ease the pain of losing a beloved animal, but
I truly feel that those of us who share these special bonds with
animals are very special in our own way.  

Jodi, I believe that the deep grief you feel is an indication of
how deeply you loved Brandy.

I know that no animal will ever take Brandy's place, but I hope
that after you have grieved for Brandy, you will find another dog
who will richly deserve all the love you so obviously have to give. 

Linda Mac (lmacdonald@berkp.uadv.uci.edu)
From: srsmart@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (susan r. smart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Allergy Symptoms (Re: IAMS dog food)
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:19:56 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

I've been following the discussion of dog foods carefully
because I had just switched my 10 month old Golden to
Science Diet from Purina Puppy.  She never showed much
interest in food until she tried Science Diet, but she
gobbles that right up.

Last night, however, she started sneezing repeatedly.  She
looks so cute with her face wrinkled up trying not to sneeze,
but I know it is bothering her.  She keeps hitting her nose 
on the floor from the force of the sneeze!

Everyone has been talking about switching foods due to allergies,
but I haven't heard the symptoms.  Could she be allergic to
this food?  Thanks in advance.

Susan  srsmart@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: weimaraner stories for print
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:41:31 GMT

Have any neat/funny/sad weimaraner stories? Send them and I'll 
put some in the newsletter for the Heartland Weimaraner Club
of Omaha, NE...if I use yours I'll send you a hard copy of the
newsletter...send your snail mail address...I'm trying a new
column...

Dana Massey
massey@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: jre20@amdahl.com (John Ewing)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Looking for Basenji pups
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: jre20@amdahl.com
Distribution: ca
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

My wife and I have decided to get a dog and, after researching various breeds, we
think that a Basenji might be the right for us.  Does anyone know where in the SF
Bay Area we could locate Basenji pups?  

We also welcome any comments/suggestion/experience that people have had with Basenji.

Thanks ...

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 Sunnyvale, CA 94088-3470           |
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Cat chasing dog
Keywords: HELP!
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:51:01 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.123337.7013@hou.amoco.com>, zjkc08@hou.amoco.com (Jane Carlin WWNV x2407 9.105) writes:
>Recently my brother and his wife adopted a 2 year old boxer that had been abused.
>The animal shelter called them because they are boxer lovers and have two already.
>The dog was unruly and terrified to begin with, but with a lot of patience, firmness,
>and a WHOLE LOT of love he was beginning to really become a good pet.
>  
>The one thingthey couldn't make any progress with was chasing their cats (they have 5).  They kept him under careful control and never let him actually go after any of them.  Last night the big accident occurred.  He broke away and got their newest kitten.  If my brother hadn't caught him in time, he would have killed the cat. 
>
>Can this dog be trained not to do this?  Even if he`s trained, how sure can one be that he won't ever kill a cat?
>
My neighbor's cat was killed last year by her neighbor's wolf-dog.  He also
managed to kill her, although that took longer.  No details, the neighbors
found Keila curled up by the patio door, a bloody mess, and Lance was rag
dolled in the middle of the yard.  Keila died from very severe abdominal
wounds.

In cat-dog conflicts, the cat usually loses and the dog rarely wins.  Those are
two reasons I never want mine to tangle with a cat.
--
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From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Corn Chip Odor
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:38:47 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <lb1b1cINNelp@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux) writes:
>(imagine living in a Frito (tm) *factory*). 
>
i had to jump in here, when i was growing up we lived down wind from the 
frito factory, and right, sometimes it was really overpowering.  made you 
feel as if you had swallowed a bowling ball and it was just sitting in your
belly.  bleh!!!!!


i can't help you with the problem though, sorry.

kg


-- 
so what if i am a vegan?  so what if i try to live a cruelty free lifestyle?
i'll tell you what, i sleep better at night knowing that nothing suffers for
anything i eat or wear and i try to use products that have not involved 
animal testing.  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: zjkc08@hou.amoco.com (Jane Carlin WWNV x2407 9.105)
Subject: Cat chasing dog		
Keywords: HELP!
Reply-To: zjkc08@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:33:37 GMT


Recently my brother and his wife adopted a 2 year old boxer that had been abused.
The animal shelter called them because they are boxer lovers and have two already.
The dog was unruly and terrified to begin with, but with a lot of patience, firmness,
and a WHOLE LOT of love he was beginning to really become a good pet.
  
The one thingthey couldn't make any progress with was chasing their cats (they have 5).  They kept him under careful control and never let him actually go after any of them.  Last night the big accident occurred.  He broke away and got their newest kitten.  If my brother hadn't caught him in time, he would have killed the cat. 

Can this dog be trained not to do this?  Even if he`s trained, how sure can one be that he won't ever kill a cat?

We have heard that some cretins train dogs to kill cats by feeding cats to them
(how gruesome).  We are afraid he may have come from such a background because he had obviously been so terribly mistreated.  We are all terribly upset about this because, except for this incident, he has become a very sweet pet and is so grateful for someone to love him. 

Last question:  Does anybody know of a good dog trainer in the Austin, TX area?   

Thanks to all of you fellow dog lovers!


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: terrih@mcnc.org (Terri W. Hardwick)
Subject: competition training
Summary: how to get fast about-turns?
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:18:51 GMT

At the obedience trial in Lynchburg, VA this past Sunday, I watched very
closely the performances of the best handlers.

In particular, I was trying to pick up pointers on getting better about-
turns.  I know that I lose 1/2 a point every time with Marco.
I have trained with Diane Bauman & Connie Drobac in the past.  Connie put
a lot of emphasis on teaching a dog to do an about-turn with their head up,
on the basis that if they can keep their nose in the "perfect" position,
the about-turn will be fast.  I have found that Marco doesn't have a very
flexible body and has a very difficult time with the about turns.

I noticed this weekend that three of the handlers I watched allowed their
dogs to drop their head quite a bit and didn't lose a fraction of an inch.
Of course, these were Border Collies, but it seems more natural for a dog
to drop his head when he changes direction, and I'm wondering if I made
a mistake in teaching Marco to keep his head up.

I know several of you netters show in competition and have had the opportunity
to train with other top handlers.  Comments??  Observations??

I doubt there are any "tricks" to training the about-turn that I don't
already know, but if you have a novel one, I'd be glad to hear it.

P.S. Marco got his first leg on his CDX that day, with a trophy for 
	Hi-Scoring Terv.

Terri Hardwick 					(terrih@mcnc.org)
   	Apropos My Tigerlily PT CGC     (Terv)
   	Apropos My Marco Polo CD HT CGC (Terv)
	Meg (Border Collie)

Gone but not forgotten - Siegfried Von Der Niebel CDX            (GSD)
		 U-CD CH Fierami's Magical Mischief CDXTD HT CGC (Terv)
		 U-CD    Calais de la Zia CDX HIC                (Terv)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:47:45 EDT
From: David L. Passmore <DLP@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Adopt a Greyhound
Distribution: na

Just a reminder, call 1-800-FON-1GPA for the Greyhound Pets of America
chapter nearest you.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: nmr1248@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (NANCY RABEL (KC4IYD))
Subject: Need info on Schnauzers and Australian Shep.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 10 Sep 1992 09:36 EDT  

Hello,

This is my first post but I've been reading this net for quite
some time. My boyfriend and I will finally be moving into a place 
that allows dogs and we've decided to get one. My boyfriend grew 
up with dogs and he's often told me that his first dog was a year
older than him. This dog died when he (my boyfriend) was in the 
sixth grade. The last dog he had was a miniature schnauzer, Pepper, 
which his parents put to sleep about 2 yrs ago at the age of 9 due 
to a bad respiratory problem. Pepper was having a hard time breathing 
and the vet did not think he would survive the 2-3 hrs drive to the 
dog specialists. 

I have not owned any dogs in my life so I am asking the net wisdom
for some advice. My boyfriend narrowed down his search to two
types of dogs. They are the miniature schnauzer and the australian
shepherd.  His main reason for choosing these two are that he's had
the schnauzer and was amazed at how smart his schnauzer was. Plus 
both dogs were described as good with kids, easily trained, & 
protective. The dog would be a pet and probably not shown in the
ring. Anyone have any comments, pro or con about these two breeeds?

The dog book I've been reading mentioned that the schnauzer are
somewhat dominant. I plan on taking the dog to obedience class
but I've read on this net how some dogs will continually try to
test their owners for the alpha position, will this be so with the
schnauzer? Also if anyone know of a breeder for either of these 
dogs or a national organization, can you please email me or post 
to the net. We live in a surburb of Cleveland, OH so any breeder
in the the Ohio and parts of MI, IN or PA area would be ok. We
would like to get a puppy but I've mentioned to my boyfriend that 
there are rescue organization out there also, so that may be a 
possibility.

So, if anyone has either of these dogs, email me and let me know
about them. I'm also interested in how much room these dogs need,
do they shed, how much exercise they need, any major health problems
to look out for, etc. I also recently bought the book, "The Art of
Raising a Puppy", by the Monks of New Skete and I've also been reading 
through the FAQ. So, I am trying to prepare myself as best at possible.    

Thanks in advance.
Nancy  

  Nancy Rabel				nmr1248@venus.lerc.nasa.gov 
  Space Station Freedom                 --... ...--   -.. . KC4IYD
  NASA - Lewis Research Center          stamp collector, SF addict
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: toolan@scivax.stsci.edu
Subject: Re: IAMS dog food -- Purina Proplan
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.195513.22206@tamsun.tamu.edu>, emily@azariah.tamu.edu 
(Emily Glass) writes:
> 
> Someone (I misplaced the post) suggested lamb and rice over Purina Puppy
> Chow.  Does this really solve the problem, and if so, what brand?  And 
> does someone make a lamb and rice food for puppies?
> 
> Emily Glass

	I meant to post a reply to the original posting, but since it obviously
didn't go through, I'll try again.

	Beware of changing your dog's diet too quickly.  Gradual changes are
always best, but even then problems can occur.  We were given an 8 lb bag 
sample of IAMS Lamb and Rice, and since it did not contain any soy (we've been
told that Greyhounds do not handle soy well), we tried on on our two dogs,
gradually increasing the quantity of IAMS mixed with their standard food
(Perform) over a week's time.  They loved it--every last pellet got scarfed
up.

	At about that time, we noticed that the dogs were losing hair, shedding
MUCH more than normal.  (Greyhounds are EXTREMELY short-coated, and normally
shed very little, yet we had fur flying everywhere.)  In very little time, 
Topaz's rump was nearly bare, and Amber's overall coat was much thinner.  We 
suspected the new food, since nothing else had changed in their routine.  A 
call to the vet confirmed our suspicion.  He told us that QUITE A FEW DOGS ARE 
ALLERGIC TO LAMB.  Unfortunately, it is taking much longer to regrow the coats
than it did to lose them, but we are making progress.

			*	*	*	*	*
					*
	Sharon Toolan			*	My opinions are my own;
	toolan@stsci			*	no one else would want them.
					*
			*	*	*	*	*

			Make a fast friend--adopt a Greyhound!



Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: brentw@coopsol.com (Brent Williams)
Subject: Help on choosing a family dog
Organization: Cooperative Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 21:13:51 GMT


We have a three-year-old, and live in a house with a medium-sized backyard
(50x60) in the SF Bay Area.  Our key criteria are:

-	Good with kids 
-	Easy to care for fur
-	Responds well to obedience training
-	Doesn't bark too much
-	Loyal, friendly, good companion.

We have spent some time  looking through dog books and talking to people
we know with various breeds.  We're getting conflicting information.  We
have narrowed it down to five breeds, and would appreciate any input you
may have on this.  BTW, we've never owned a dog before.  Here are the breeds
we're looking at:

*	YELLOW LAB.
*	ENGLISH BULLDOG.  I don't know how these are as a breed, but a 
	friend had one that was just the gentlest, kindest dog imaginable.
*	DALMATIAN.  We have heard *VERY* conflicting stories about whether
	these are good with kids.  One Dalmatian we knew was extremely
	hyper; we think this would be threatening to a three-year-old.
	Some books we read said Dalmatians are great for kids.  But 
	newspaper articles right after "101 Dalmatians" hit the theaters
	last year said that they're too high-strung for small kids to 
	handle.
*	COLLIE. Are these really as difficult to groom as one might 
	imagine?
*	STANDARD POODLE.  We hear these are really intelligent and loyal.
	Any comments you might have about the tradeoff between Grooming Hell
	and the benefits of poodle ownership would be appreciated.

Naturally, I'll summarize and post responses received by e-mail.

THanks,

-brent



-- 
Brent Williams/Cooperative Solutions Inc., San Jose CA   (408) 377-0300
brentw@coopsol.com
Cooperative Solutions makes Ellipse, a development environment for
industrial strength graphical client/server business applications.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Regarding My New Puppy and Some Nasty Articles
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:55:05 EDT

In article <1992Sep8.165940.5133@cs.uah.edu>
ldawes@news.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes) writes:
 
>We have a well adjusted Siberian Husky and Lasa who were raised
>with both my wife and I working.  I agree that those who work
>and own pets probably take more time to spend with their pets
>than those who stay home all day.
 
Definitely true.  I'm away at school, but my parents tell me that they spend
a great deal of time with my Bichon, Shana, even though both of them work
all day.  My mom teaches high school, but when she comes home, she spends
all afternoon before dinner playing with Shana.  (Shana probably wouldn't
let her live, otherwise!!!  :))
 
 
 
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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite
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From: deannab@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Deanna Bergstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Shutter Bugs (WAS: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend)
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:21:39 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)

I've always taken lots of pictures of all my critters.  About 5 months
before my best buddy for 14 1/2 years had to say goodbye, I had a
professional photo session, with photos of her alone, both of us, and
me alone.  I was happy I did it...even my parents were happy to get
a portrait of me and their "grand-dog".  It's now on their hallway wall
along with the other family portraits.

When my new pup, Kashka Snowflake, was about a year old, I had a portrait
done of her.  A photographer who specialized in animals did this one.

I have the framed photos of both my dogs at home and on my desk at work.
Kinda like other people have of their kids.

Now if I could just get all 3 cats and the dog to sit still together
for a Christmas portrait....

Deanna