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From: root@bing.UUCP (Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Zeos Pocket PC
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:10:43 GMT
Organization: Bing's Rubber Chicken Factory -- "Our clucks are boneless."

barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart) writes:
> The next big problem was connectivity.  I discovered that the ports
> in the back were actually mini-ports: one parallel, one serial, about
> one-fourth as big as their full-size counterparts.  Zeos provides
> cables that attach to them and which are supposed to allow you
> connectivity to a number of devices, including a server and printer.
> They don't.  The LPT1 mini-port cable, for instance, has a 24-pin
> female serial at the other end -- most printers I know of have

Ummmmmmmmm I think what they wanted you to do was to use a regular
printer cable which has a male 25 D on one end to make the connection.

> parallel ports in the back.  The serial mini-port cable has a 9-pin
> male at the other end.  This plugged into the back of my old Toshiba,
> in a port marked "RGB."

The RGB port is a video output port!  If you connect your serial port
into that port, you may end up damaging both ports.  Again I think what
you need to do is find the right kind of cable to go from the end of the
provided cable and to your computer.

> -- 
> Mr. Aaron Barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us -- posting from Evanston, Illinois

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Zeos Pocket Pcs now shipping
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Organization: Evanston, Illinois
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:47:28 GMT

Ohhh, thought y'all would want to know that I called Zeos
for about the fifth time today, wondering when my Pocket PC
would ship.  (I had been told before that the models were
"very slow coming through production" -- as a previous poster
called it, "not a supply and demand problem ... just supply".)

Well, today when she called up my record she shrieked, "Omigod!"
What?  What?  "Your unit shipped yesterday.  It's the first one
I've seen go out!"

So .... if you ordered some time after July 14th (of this year),
expect to wait a while on yer Pocket PC.



-- 
Mr. Aaron Barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
From: mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Douglas Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Calculator newsgroup?
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:59:37 GMT
Reply-To: mueller@schaefer.UUCP (Carl Douglas Mueller)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Sep1.002535.9111@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>	Does anybody out there know if there is a calculator newsgroup?  You
>see, I have recently purchased a CASIO 7700GBW, graphics scientific calculator
>with over 300 functions.  On the box it says that not only can it be hooked up
>to a computer, but it can also be hooked up to another calculator just like
>it.

      As far as I know, this is the right place (though the HP-48 has its own
newsgroup).  And I just bought a SHARP EL-9300 graphing scientific calculator
with a zillion functions.  It too can be connected to another calculator (or
a printer -- and I'm sure the calculator-computer hookup is in the works).
Anyone else out there with one of these new calculators from CASIO or SHARP?
I'm most curious about how they compare with the TI-85 ... Anyone know enough
about them to compare?
>
>		Kyle

                          Carl Mueller (mueller@math.wisc.edu)
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Series3 SSDs - is are there 3rd party sources?
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:17:38 GMT
Organization: City University, London

Are Series3 SSDs compatible to some standard, and are there any 3rd
party offerings? Two or three hundred quids for a meg of space seems
a bit expensive.

--
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Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: dkf8117@tamsun.tamu.edu (D. K. Fields)
Subject: wanted: psion
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:58:31 GMT

I am looking into buying a psion3 or a wizard.  Anyone have one?


-- 
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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Calculator newsgroup?
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:25:35 GMT


	Does anybody out there know if there is a calculator newsgroup?  You
see, I have recently purchased a CASIO 7700GBW, graphics scientific calculator
with over 300 functions.  On the box it says that not only can it be hooked up
to a computer, but it can also be hooked up to another calculator just like
it.

	So, does anybody know anything about this?  Or am I just wasting
bandwidth?

		Kyle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: skinner@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Skinner Tom)
Subject: ***WANTED: HP 48/SX *****
Summary: I want to buy a HP 48sx
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:48:57 GMT
Keywords: Wanted hp 48sx

I am looking for a hp 48sx ... please post with the specs.. any other 
assories that you have to go with it. etc.. please also state the rom
revision ..               
			thanks

call at 217-332-5287 or e-mail me at skinner@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu


   

Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: Martin.Kunze@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Martin Kunze)
Subject: RAMCARDS FOR SELL 128 KB.
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:10:17 GMT

Ok.
I agree to all of you.
I will just post a new article if there is something new...
Like lower prices and new devices.

Is that what all of you want ??

Martin Kunze
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:17:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Windows for your Palmtops
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

> Does this mean that a finger size mouse would need to be developed to
> go with the palmtop computer and kneetop printer? :-)

Add a shoe-top BOOTROM to the setup ...

-- Ray
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: randy@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Randy Barth;NSIUSO)
Subject: Re: Portfolio memory cards
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:32:25 GMT

The cards are propriatary.  Some of the best prices a year ago were mail order from what I want 
to say is "J&K Music" in New York, but somehow that doesn't look right.  I have their
catelog at home, so if the right name doesn't jump out at you from that approximation,
email me back and I'll look it up for you.

I've had my card go belly-up this year for some reason, and I'm debating whether to get
another or just write it off.  I tried to get another at first, and it was back ordered 
for several months when I sent them a note telling them to forget it.  The story may be 
different now.

	-Randy Barth, NASA Science Internet
From: akcs.barrer@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Harold B. Barrer, Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Sharp PC-1500
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:40:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvbbs.2a9e3d59.4769.1comp.sys.handhelds.1

I recently attended a local Ham Fest here in Atlanta and noticed 3 or 4
complete PC-1500's for sell.  Two of the units had serial ports with
them.  Now for the interesting part, the price.  One unit, and that's a
complete PC-1500, 16K RAM, printer/plotter, and RS-232 serial device
(with parallel capabilities) all for $40.  The third unit (minus RS-232
device) was $30.  I think the best thing to do is contact a local Ham
board and find out when the next Ham Fest is in your area.  When you get
there look for the area called the "bone yard".
From: hesj@gbg.icl.se (Henric Sjoqvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Psion Comms Link for UNIX
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:14:06 GMT
Organization: ICL Data AB

I would like to know of some implementation of the Comms Link server running
under UNIX SVR4. I know it's running under XENIX so i suppose someone has
got it running under SVR4.

Please answer by phone or faximile since i have some problem reading e-mail.

Henric Sjoqvist		tel	+46 (0)31 31 97 40
SINTERCON		fax	+46 (0)31 30 56 10
Vasterslant 72
S-424 45  ANGERED
SWEDEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.laptops
From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Zeos Pocket PC
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Organization: Evanston, Illinois
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:19:49 GMT

This is in reply to root@bing.UUCP (Administrator), who wrote:
:barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart) writes:
:> The next big problem was connectivity.  I discovered that the ports
:> in the back were actually mini-ports: one parallel, one serial, about
:> one-fourth as big as their full-size counterparts.  Zeos provides
:> cables that attach to them and which are supposed to allow you
:> connectivity to a number of devices, including a server and printer.
:> They don't.  The LPT1 mini-port cable, for instance, has a 24-pin
:> female serial at the other end -- most printers I know of have
:
:Ummmmmmmmm I think what they wanted you to do was to use a regular
:printer cable which has a male 25 D on one end to make the connection.
:
:> parallel ports in the back.  The serial mini-port cable has a 9-pin
:> male at the other end.  This plugged into the back of my old Toshiba,
:> in a port marked "RGB."
:
:The RGB port is a video output port!  If you connect your serial port
:into that port, you may end up damaging both ports.  Again I think what
:you need to do is find the right kind of cable to go from the end of the
:provided cable and to your computer.

I've gotten a lot of mail on these two observations.

What people need to understand is that although I'm pretty nimble with
PCs, Macintoshes, and their respective peripherals and cables, I'm still
a writer first, technician second.  And I'm of the opinion that Zeos
needs to think less highly of my technical skills, even if it costs them
a few bucks more to throw in the *right* cable combos and spend the
extra hours rewriting the manual to say, "Here, stoopid, is how you
print from the Pocket PC," or "Look, just plug this into that, and
voila, your file will be transferred." 

I *know* what RGB stands for (Apple makes a point of telling you this
on the side of color monitor boxes).  I was just trying to give a sense
of how limited I felt my options were, short of a techie showing up at
my door to say, "Oh, of course, you need *this* cable too ..."

And let's also bear in mind the software was, ah, skeletal, shall we
say.

Thanks also to everyone who sent nice notes, as well as those who
helpfully corrected the situation described above for me.  You helped
confirm that this is a customer service problem that should be corrected
with hardware, software, and documentation updates.


-- 
Mr. Aaron Barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
Xref: sparky comp.sys.handhelds:1919 alt.folklore.computers:13055
From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: An old Commodore calculator
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:56:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.150930.58329@cc.usu.edu>, ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!) writes:
> In article <1992Aug22.053412.12764@uwm.edu>, anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) writes:
>> I just turned on the larger of the two paperweights, and I notice that
>> digits are entered from the left to the rightmost position.  This is
>> the opposite of all the other (four) stand alone calculators in the
>> house and I think, most other calculators.  The latter machines scroll
>> the display right to left to make room for digits as they are entered.
>> 
>> Why is this?  I would think that not scrolling the display would be
>> easier on both the machine and the eyes.  The decimal point does
>> wander even if the number of decimal places is the same.
> 
> Scrolling the display to the left as digits come in is, in my experience, 
> easier. You can just shift the buffer to the left and stuff the digit in the
> end instead of searching for or keeping track of the current insertion point;
> less work, less stuff to keep track of. Admittedly, I've always done this in
> situations where the data I was using fit in a register on the machine I
> was using, so shifting left was one instruction...
> 
> Roger Ivie
> ivie@cc.usu.edu
	I really have no opinion either way on this.  I have a Commodore 
rechargable pocket calculator and an old Commodore adding machine.
\


		Kyle
From: bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Information on TRS-80 Pocket Computer wanted
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:16:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug27.231600.2056
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <2a9cf560.4787.1comp.sys.handhelds.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm) writes:
>If you can provide a manufacturer's logo or some such identifier to
>show who the manufacturer of the chip set is, you should be able to
>look it up in their catalog.  Might have to look under the replacement
>for column, though.  It is NOT likely to be a bit-slice processor, 
>though.  That machine was not that high performance a machine.  If I
>had to guess, I would guess the SC43125 OG 33 were memory.

I'm pretty sure Sharp was using custom processors. At least in the 1500 line,
they used a custom chip SC???? that was similar to a 8080 (8008?).  Then in the
1600, they put both their custom chip *and* a Z-80.  I suspect the 1211
also had a custom processor, and is not in any catalog.

In the early 80's people did some sort of cool stuff using the printer port,
some of which showed up in Pocket Computer Newsletter (anybody remember *that*?
is Norlin Rober out there?).  Pocket Computers didn't really take off until
Sharp included peek,poke, & call, though.  Interestingly enough, the above-
mentioned Norlin Rober figured out the PC-1500's custom chip instruction set
empirically, using peek, poke, & call.  A monumental achievement, believe me.
Naturally shop published the op codes shortly thereafter.

later,
bobo
bowman@reed.edu
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:16:14 GMT
Subject: Re: An old Commodore calculator
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

In comp.sys.handhelds, woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams) writes:

> ...
> I hadn't even realised Commodore ever made calculators, or that they
> existed as long ago as 1974. What did they do before making the PET?

Before 1974, Commodore made adding machines.  When everyone started making
calculators, Commodore jumped on the bandwagon.  So did Canon, National
Semiconductor, HP, TI and a bunch of other big-names-you-would-be-surprised-
to-hear and small-names-you-have-never-heard.  Of course, in the early 70's 
a four-functio n machinue was nearly $100, and programmable machines costed
more than your HP48.  Then, in the late 70's, calculators became a commodity 
item.  Prices fell through the floor.  National Semiconductor even had a 
$10 "disposable" one (batteries couldn't be replaced) in stores like Walmart.

The drastic drop in prices was followed by an industry shakeout, and many
companies either dropped out of the calculator market or dropped out of sight.
Commodore Business Machines were smart enough to see the shakeout coming, and
they had already adopted a plan to JUMP, NOT BRANCH, from calculators
to personal computers.

The history books will show that CBM were indeed successful in making the
transition.  The PET, the VIC-20 and the C-64 family were important parts
of the birth and evolution of personal computing.

I think that Commodore made electric typewriters too, but I'm not sure.  I
used a Smith-Corona back then.


Regards
Ray Depew
Hewlett Packard Co, Fort Collins, Colorado
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
Disclaimer:  I obviously don't work for Commodore, but I did borrow a 
brand-new Commodore calculator for a math test, once.
From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Nifty calculator, cheap...
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:47:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.

In article <1992Sep4.184532.22659@linus.mitre.org>, m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
|> I just came across a very nifty little calculator, and for what you get, 
|> it's very cheap.  The Casio fx-6300G sells for $39 retail at a local
	...

Nifty, indeed.

If you want to stay with HP but can forego the graphs, look into the
32SII (RPN + programming + *algebraic* solver) or the 22S / 20S
algebraics.

Craig A. Finseth			fin@unet.umn.edu [CAF13]
Networking Services			+1 612 624 3375 desk
Computer and Information Services	+1 612 625 0006 problems
University of Minnesota			+1 612 626 1002 fax
130 Lind Hall, 207 Church St SE
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From: impact@crhc.uiuc.edu (Temporary Account for HP visitors)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Recommendation on HP48SX versus HP48S
Date: 3 Sep 1992 15:32:43 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

Any recommendations?
Thanks
From: eggenberger@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: BesREAD/NEW/FOLLOWUPt "Scheduler"
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:23:47 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

I would like to buy a wizard. Can anybody tell me which is the best and
newest modell sharp is selling or will sell soon? Does anybody know
where I get a good deal? OM
                                        
..........
The next line contains junk. I have some trouble with my editor, sorry!
z I am living in S erzzbozy

Is Focus (New York) selling Sharps? Does anybody know a good address in
Miami?
I appreciate your help! Don't hesitate writing me!
Regards Chips


r
iraZo
In article <1992Aug27.101442.20614@city.cs>, lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.161223.19506@tamsun.tamu.edu> dkf8117@tamsun.tamu.edu (D. K. Fields) writes:
>>I'm thinking of getting a palmtop, mainly for scheduling and phone
>>numbers.  I'm looking for one that has a "to-do" list, and a "week at a
>>glance" type feature.  Is the wizard 9600 released yet?  I've been looking
>>at the Psion3, and the various wizards. Any input on which has the better
>>scheduler features?
> 
> I am not familiar with the wizard. The Psion3 I use all the time and I
> have even stopped using my filofax. The todo list is very well done and
> I like the priority levels. The daily and week (or 2 week) at a glance
> is also very useful. I suppose you have to try it really but its good
> for me.
> 
> --
> Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
> Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
From: kennell@unx14.fxo.dec.com (Richard L. Kennell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Interface protocol for Seiko DF1800 (and others?)
Keywords: serial port protocol
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:41:10 GMT
Reply-To: kennell@unx14.fxo.dec.com (Richard L. Kennell)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.



Does anyone know what handshaking protocol the Seiko DF-1800 uses to do
serial upload/download.  This handheld is similar to the Radio Shack models
I've seen.  Is there one standard protocol maybe?

--
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* Rick Kennell               | "Sometimes you can't hear me... It's because  *
* kennell@unx14.fxo.dec.com  | sometimes I'm in parentheses." -Steven Wright *
*   My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of Digital Equipment Corp.  *
******************************************************************************
From: chrisb@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Chris Bunsen)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:37:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Opinions on HP42S/HP32S2/28S wanted...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds


If your friend needs matrices and lots of ram, then the 42 is the
right choice. It actually has more matrix functions than the 48 or
the 28. BUT it has a RPN solver, --- no algebraic equation solver.
Its also HP41 compatable....


The HP32SII will solve RPN and algebraic equations using the actuall
equations in their algebraic form. It also does fractions better
than anything on the market and is fast, easy to learn and
the easiest HPcalc to use.

HP was obviously inspired when they developed the HP32SII  ... ;)


Chris Bunsen

HP





From: akcs.sfm@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (S.F.Mauser)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Recommendation on HP48SX versus HP48S
Message-ID: <2aa7525f.4802.2comp.sys.handhelds.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

not to mention the cost of expansion memory.  However, as with all
computer tools, I don't want to lock myself into a corner and just wish I
could fit that neat package on my machine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: RE: An old Commodore calculator
From: jg@seas.smu.edu (Javier Garcia)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:45 CDT
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From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Any Tandy 100 / 102 ML info/code available?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 10:52:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

This topic seems to be somewhat of an orphan, but maybe someone can answer it.

I've recently had opportunity to acquire a Tandy Model 102 portable computer;
it's no speed demon, and it's about halfway between "laptop" and "handheld" in
size, but I can program it in BASIC and, even without manuals, have made a
pretty impressive (to me) start at hacker (original MIT meaning) style de-
ciphering of its innards: I've found all the BASIC keywords in memory, found
the file system in memory, been able to patch a BASIC output data file so that
it looks (and executes) like one of the several built-in software applications
have verified that the CPU is a Z80, and have begun to disassemble part of 
the operating system.

I'm now interested in the possibility of actually writing Z80 machine-language
code for this beast, and in possibly eliminating some of the drudge-work of 
working up my own tools (assembler, disassembler) and of ferreting out the 
configuration of hardware registers, I/O, etc.  

I'd be interested in hearing from anybody who has this kind of information abo
about the Tandy model 100 or 102; 102 preferred, or can tell me a better place
to look for same.

Please e-mail even if you also post a response here, as I am not a regular
reader of this group.  In return, if you have any Atari 8-bit, VAX/VMS, or 
general computer/math/graphics questions in areas YOU don't regularly read, 
I will do YOU the courtesy of an e-mail response when YOU post a question
in the groups _I_ frequent.

Thanks in advance,

   Chris Chiesa
      Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
From: bwc34920@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (olga)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Opinions on HP42S/HP32S2/28S wanted...
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:15:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Btrn5y.CHF
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I am looking for recommendations and opinions on HP's lower end
scientific calculators such the HP42S and HP32S2 and even HP28S.
I've used the HP28S and HP48SX quite a bit and was thinking about
getting either the HP42S or HP32S2 as a gift for a friend. Problem
is I don't want the calculator to be too complicated. Would like
alpha-numeric support allowing storage of scientific formulas
and the ability to solve them similar to 28S and 48SX. I read
in the Elek-Tek catalog that the 42S has HP solve but the 32S2
does not... Could anyone elaborate on the 42S and 32S2 solvers
and equation handling abilities? Can I store in any formula
like 3*SIN(3X)+5 or multi-variable equations like 3Y*SIN(2X) or
anything like that? If not perhaps then the 28S is the way to
go...

Thanks
PS Please respond via posts on the net. Perhaps others would find it
useful as well...