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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: A Sound Effect Returns! (Hulk: Future Imperfect)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:28:40 GMT

If you have or can borrow Future Imperfect, turn to page 15 (sorry, they aren't
numbered, it's when Hulk takes out the floaters with the Wardog's head) and 
read the sound effect in the lower left panel out loud.  It was used in 
Dreadstar last year to deadly effect.
     Dave Van Domelen, "You made the mistake many of my foes have...you mistook
my incompetence for ignorance.  And THAT will be my undoing!" - Squalor #4, 
perhaps slightly misquoted.
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: X-Factor #87 (was Re: Why does PAD *stay* on the net?)
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:59:40 GMT

In article <ljcufgINNpdv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, jamesc@bassclar.Eng.Sun.COM (James Langdell) writes:

> Sad to learn the truth about Guido.  It makes his character all the
> more interesting to see his recognition that there's better ways to
> live than wallowing in angst.

You bought that line of crap from Guido?
I figured it for shrinking the shrink.  Guido doesn't seem the type to suddenly
open up like that.

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From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:32:46 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

gls@windmill.ATT.COM (Col. G. L. Sicherman) writes:

>Not McDonald's but Pillsbury.  "Funny-Face Drinks," a line of Kool-Aid
>imitations with stereotypical cartoon characters.  Goofy Grape and
>Choo-Choo Cherry were two of them.  Choo-Choo superseded Chinese
>Cherry, whom, with Injun Orange, the public found excessively stereo-
>typical.

From the Depths of Memory, It Comes...

"Goofy Grape,
 Injun Orange,
 Freckle-Faced Strawberry,
 Chinese Cherry,
 Loudmouth Lime,
 Rootin'-Tootin' Raspberry!"

As the Col. mentioned, Jolly Olly Orange and Choo-Choo Cherry replaced their
more ethnic predecessors.  A Lefty Lemon was later added, as was a Watermelon
flavor/character whose name has somehow slipped away.  (Unless Loudmouth Lime
mutated into Loudmouth Watermelon and Lefty Lemon became Lefty Lemon-Lime.)

I used to know the names of all the Freakies, too.  


-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
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From: dave@Cigna.COM (Dave Good)
Subject: Re: Robin 3000
Organization: Cigna FIRST - Irvine, CA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:09:53 GMT

In article <15216.2b380e93@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>Robin 3000 was dreck.  Don't buy it.  Don't borrow it.  And most
>assuredly, don't read it.  
>
>This book had a lot of promise.  Good artist, intriguing idea for
>a story, the Batman mythos to play with, and a science fiction
>environment.  The first book was mildly interesting, setting up a
>30'th century Robin on the run from aliens who'd taken over our
>planet.  Not much happened, but the art was nice, and I assumend
>the second issue would pick up the pace in order to resolve the
>story line.

I agree wholeheartedly.

>
>Wrong! Bzzzt!  The second issue has no ending.  You get to the last
>page and the story stops like a train hitting a brick wall.  Nothing
>is resolved.  In fact, I turned to the front to make sure there
>wasn't going to be 3rd installment.  Nope.  This book ends just before the
>lead up to the climax should be getting started.  If this were
>a four part miniseries, then the book ended at an appropriate point
>for a cliff hanger.  But for the final book in a series it is
>totally inappropriate. 

I got the impression that this was supposed to be a much longer series,
but something was changed at the last moment.  Throughout the book, the
lettering looked like someone had used white-out on it and then written
something new on top of it.  The art on this book was *abyssmal*  P. Craig
Russell can do *much* better (and *did* in the first book).  The whole
book seemed like it was extremely rushed.  I hope they will at least finish
the story (predictable as it will probably be) sometime in the future
when they have the time to do it right...

>
>I wrote a letter to DC demanding my money back. I'll see what they
>do.  I won't hold my breath.
>
>Mark Balbes


-- 
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Christmas with Delirium (Spoiler?)
Date: 28 Dec 92 05:40:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <lis.725516324@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>
>>(Family Feud? "Let's have a big hand for the Endless family: Destiny, Dream,
>> Desire, Death and Delirium!" I'm figuring that Despair would have more fun
>> on This Old House and that Destruction is staying out of family affairs 
>> for awhile.)

I just know that I'm going to regret having posted the above...

>Oh, gawd--isn't this the show where the host kisses all the female
>contestants?  Assuming there are no unwelcome side-effects, Death
>would be fine, but kissing Desire and Delerium could have nasty
>consequences.

Richard Dawson used to do that but the new person (Ray someone) doesn't
kiss. However, he does a lot of hand holding. He'd probably survive
Desire. I'm not sure about Delirium. Might make for a short show. The
questions certainly might get more surrealistic once Del got through
with him.

The first time through would be interesting. Destiny would look in
his book and find out what each of the hundred people surveyed said.
Death would probably play it for fun. Dream, assuming he could be 
convinced to play, would probably come up with a very bad answer as he 
seems a bit slow. Desire would convince the emcee that he wanted to tell
her/him the answers. And the less said about Del's answers the better.

>Now who in comic books would play against them?

How about assorted people from Swamp Thing? Swamp Thing, Abby, Matthew
the Raven (related by marriage to Abby), John Constantine, and maybe
Tefe on the end to justify the inclusion of Constantine. The other 
alternative is that we include Abby's relatives instead of Tefe.

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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: cmsg rmgroup alt.death-of-superman
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:37:58 GMT

In article <BzMrIo.Htu@animal.er.bell.ca> alex@animal.Bell.CA (Alex Laney) writes:

>Second, or this third, try at killing this newsgroup...
>
>Please remove from your news distribution...

All of this, of course, would be made *much* easier if the perpetrator
had either a valid e-mail address or a clue about newsgroup creation.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Christmas with Delirium (Spoiler?)
Date: 29 Dec 92 05:30:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New York University

lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:

>lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

>>(Family Feud? "Let's have a big hand for the Endless family: Destiny, Dream,
>> Desire, Death and Delirium!" I'm figuring that Despair would have more fun
>> on This Old House and that Destruction is staying out of family affairs 
>> for awhile.)

>Oh, gawd--isn't this the show where the host kisses all the female
>contestants?  Assuming there are no unwelcome side-effects, Death
>would be fine, but kissing Desire and Delerium could have nasty
>consequences.

>Now who in comic books would play against them?

Hmmm.....  
"And all the way from the Area of Madness, let's welcome the many
incarnations of our favorite Metan - Shade, Hades, Shadella! And his
(their?) girlfriend(s), Kathy!  And her girlfriend, Lenny!"



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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 06:10:24 EST

jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF) writes:

> In article <8248@news.duke.edu> eja@carr3.acpub.duke.edu (Eric Akawie) writes
> >
> >Sorry if this has been tlked about before and I missed it but it seemed like
> >a fun topic to me.
> >
> >What books do YOU want to read out of Lucien's Library.  Let's assume
> >he's got a comic book section and an AV department too.
> >
> 
> JLA vs. the Avengers.
> 
> 


Oh, yes!  And the ending to the "Swamp Thing meets Jesus" story that was 
so rudely interrupted.

Namaste,
Elizabeth

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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: SUPERMAN:  No new life in sight.
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 05:06:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.044128.20293@njitgw.njit.edu> ddl1542@hertz.njit.edu (Derek Lee!) writes:
>
>	According to the latest CVM, Superman is coming back in Adventures 
>of Superman #500 in April 1993. Ick.

Amazing!  I finally made a correct prediction!

Thanks for the confirmation.  Now I can make an addendum to the "don't buy
Superman #75" flyer for the shop.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Professional Evil Person
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Sandman - Old Gods
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 08:51:35 EST

lsmith@peca.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

> So looking up capax in the Oxford Latin Dictionary (another BIG dictionary)
> we find similar defintions to those of the OED. However, the fourth 
> definition along is "able to deal with or endure." That seems to suit Bernie.

Thanks for the information.... but where does it lead??  I have the 
feeling I *should* be able to put the jigsaw of ideas together now and 
come to a Conclusion, but damned if I can find it.....

> the Romans likened to Jupiter, though it may have been a death goddess.
> Tarani is sanskrit for savior and is a title for the sun.)
> 

So is Tarani simply Death under another name?

> 
> >> ObReminder: Don't forget to write quality Sandletters to DC this month.
> >> Let the sterling work of Elizabeth Holden (in issue #44) serve as an examp

Huh?  Who, me?  Aw.... blush (grinning with delight: "sterling" he said. 
Sterling!  Blushing a pleased sort of silver.....

> >Aufenanger has gone, so we won't be subjected to any more heaps of
> >"humourless and self-righteous" letters. The adjectives are Neil's: it was n
> >his idea to publish them, nor was he consulted.

It's interesting how this varies from book to book, depending on editorsa 
nd writers.  I'll be glad to see the "hunourless", pedantic and preachy 
letters gone too.  


Namaste,
Elizabeth


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From: rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Lucien's Library
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 04:10:08 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I just thought of another one...

New Universe, without Jim Shooter, John Byrne, Kickers Inc.
or Merc...

Nightmask done by Gaiman & Berni Wrightson

Justice done by PAD and someone who can draw perspective

DP7 by Gruenwald (I -hate- everything he has ever done that I 
	know of but this one comic.)


The theories of my running for re-election as Senator in '96 are false...



	almost.
	
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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Favorite Writers
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 05:16:08 EST

djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young) writes:

> Ok Here's my list for favorite writers:  But remember that I'm a super
> hero comic fan and I think that most of the quality writers in comics 
> are with the lesser known companies.  If only because the don't get to 
> experiment as much under a superhero format.

This assertion confused me a little.... You say that the "quality 
writers" are with "lesser known" companies then list five favourites that 
do things exclusively for the big companies.

> 
> 5.  JIM SHOOTER:  This guy can just plain write. I enjoyed the Secret Wars
> 	and have seen some other promising work from him in Valiant.

WOw, do we disagree.  I think Shooter's writing is unimaginative, 
unoriginal, trite, dull and formula, not to mention sexist and shallow.  
ANd I hated Secret Wars, and the New Universe, and the Valiant stuff 
Shooter did was just plain dull.

> 
> 4.  ROGER STERN:  Liked his stint on the Avengers, especially the Vision
> 	domination series.

Agreed.  Stern did some great work on IRON MAN, too.  He's one of the 
underrated writers in comics; when he's good, he's magnificent.  

> 
> 3.  STEVE ENGLEHART:  This guy has written a lot of stuff I like.  Silver
> 	Surfer, Vision/Scarlett Witch LS and I think Squadron Supreme LS.
> 	don't hold me to it though.

He's written stuff I like too, but not recently.  His good work was in 
the early-to-mid seventies on Batman and Master of Kung Fu, among others. 
(Yes, Avengers too.)  His more recent work on Fantastic Four and more 
recent comics was about as bad as writing can be.

> 
> 2.  FABIAN NICIEZA:  One of my favorites.  I like the New Warriors, X-Force
> 	and his earlier work.

Oh, agreed!  This man's work sings.  He takes hackneyed ideas and injects 
real life and character into them.  I didn't expect to like this man's 
work, and he gave me a surprise.  His ideas, his scripting, his ability 
to flesh out a concept, are magnificent.

> 
> 1.  WALT SIMONSON:  His writing for Thor between 337-382 was by for the 
> 	most incredible plotline that I have read.  It is amazing how tigh
> 	t this books are.  I can still read them one after another.  You
> 	try and do that with other series of comics.

Well, I can think of many comics I can and do re-read with great delight, 
and certainly his THOR comics are among these.  But nothing he has done 
before or since has impressed me in the same way.  His Fantastic Four 
work had promise but went nowhere.

> 
> Honorable Mention:  Chris Claremont:  He would probably be higher but I becam
> 	an X-fan to late and couldn't catch up with his plots.
> 

Again, I agree.... Claremont is consistently good, sometimes excellent, 
and in spite of his wordiness mananges to inject feeling and 
verisimilitude into the most improbably of situations.  Getting rid of 
him on X-Men was the stupidest thing Marvel could have done.

Namaste,
Elizabeth



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From: mss2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: random thoughts about sandman...
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 08:18:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.064914.2688@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>In article <1992Dec26.043531.9271@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>>zonker@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Regis):
>>>I don't recall specifically what happened in classical mythology/classical 
>>>greek theatre, but didn't the furies become the kindly ones when reason and 
>>>compassion entered the world of politics or something?
>>
>>Sorry, no.  "The kindly ones" was a *euphemism* for the Furies, even when
>>they were at their nastiest.
>
>Sorry, no.  "The Kindly Ones" (The Eumenides) is an aspect of the Furies.  In
>particular, in Aeschylus' "The Eumenides" (the third play in The
Oresteia)
[summary of "The Eumenides" deleted]

My understanding is that you're both partially right.  The euphemism
came first, then Aeschylus came to try to explain it (and make some
moral, theological, and constitutional points at the same time).

>>(There is no truth to the folk etymology that the name symbolizes the spirit
>>of equitable retribution, as embodied in "Euripides pants, eumenides pants.")

>Huh?

Imagine it as what a tailor with an exaggerated mock-Italian accent might
say to an employee who's just damaged the stock.

Mike
-- 
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mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on
mschiffer@aal.itd.umich.edu	    Virginia (1784)
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:10:57 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Dec31.143439.3051@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>In article <sPqmwB6w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay) writes:
>>Issue 8-12 of Sonic Disrupters. 
>
>Yup.  I never did hear why they cancelled it, but I assume no one was
>buying it other than myself, Mike Baron, Barry Crain, the inker, Nyberg.
>

From what I heard, Baron had absolutely no idea where to do with 
the plot. Though I assume poor sales encouraged DC not to assign someone 
else to the plot. 
>>The Original versions of Dark Knight 3 and 4
>
>Original versions?
>

Well, in DK 3, supposedly, when the Joker is dying, it's revealed that
he raped and murdered Jason Todd. Dunno about DK 4.
>>The "If Robin had lived" issues of Death in the Family
>
>I'm surprised DC hasn't published this.  Marvel published the other
>version of Phoenix's original death once... "the Untold Legend of Phoenix"
>or something.  DC could make fast $$$ publishing this.
>

Supposedly, there's only a very slight difference in that and the published
one - Batman finds him barely alive, stabilizes his condition, and
everything else continues. He was going to be critically wounded for
a few months so there was no real difference in the upcoming plots.

-- 
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
Arthur C. Adams acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil            	<fnord>
No, I'm not the Arthur Adams who draws comic books. Don't even ask.
From: mac7@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Forget Supes, is *DOOMSDAY* coming back?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 18:48:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Doomsday would seem to be a good character to keep around.
It would make Superman's death much more tragic if it were
in vain.   Based on this last issue I think Lobo
should come to Earth and use his genius level biological
skills (he has them) torevive Doomsday in order to find out how tough 
the guy who killed Superman was.  He can then simply kill
Doomsday and leave having really depressed Metropolis.
(A while ago there was a issue of Superman where Lobo kicked the
fire out of the man of Steel until he was tricked into leaving.)
-- 
"What's wrong with him?" "What do you mean?" "Well, he's standing
in front of a mirror, talking and smirking to himself.  That's
one of the first symptoms of megalomania." - The Doctor
"Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Roger Bacon
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Barry Allen
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:14:19 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

kens@css.itd.umich.edu (Ken Small) writes:

>Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu) wrote:

>: Wasn't Allen supposed to be Jewish?  (At least, I believe I remember
>: this was so in a recent DC "Christmas with the Super-Heroes").o

>Nope.  You're probably thinking of Gim Allon, aka Collosal Boy of the
>Legion of Super-Heroes.  Barry Allen is as whitebread
>middle-American-WASP as you can get.

The "Barry Allen is Jewish" idea comes from a Flash/GL story in CHRISTMAS WITH
THE SUPER-HEROES #2.  At the end, Barry wished Hal a Merry Xmas, and Hal wished
him a Happy Hannukah.

This isn't much to go on.  Hal and/or the writer could simply have wanted to be
inclusive.  

There were certainly no pre-Crisis Flash appearances that suggested Barry was
Jewish, but I don't think there were any that explicitly stated he *wasn't*,
either.  He married Iris (and tried to marry Fiona) in a church, but that could
have been a concession to Iris/Fiona.

Alternately, one could say that *Hal Jordan* is Jewish, and when Barry touted
his own holiday, Hal touted *his*.


-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: ANOTHER $#%^&#%-ING SPIDERMAN TITLE!?!?!?!?![D
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec31.045817.22599@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) writes...
>Accd to Previews, we will be assaulted with another regular Spidey title.  I 
>think I shall go over into the corner and sob quietly for a while.
>     Dave Van Domelen, whimper....

Could be worse....

The UnCanny SpiderMen.
Spider-Force
Tales of the Golden Spider
One Web to Weave
Shadow of the Web
Webbings of Vengence

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