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From: cf@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Coleen Flanagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: In Defense of Carly
Summary: Less Carly
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:30:24 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department


mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>In article <1d9tnpINNq27@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt) writes:

Thanks Tim.  I also want to point out that I'm not flaming anyone 
either.  I understand that no one likes Carly, but this group has
reduced her to Satan's Spawn.  It seems like no matter what the woman
does, some people on this group will find a way to make it a horrible
thing.  Granted, she does a lot of horrible things, but that doesn't
mean that everything she does is horrible.

I think that the main reason that some of you find the pool room scene
so offensive is because it involved Carly.  I'll bet that if it involved
another couple, you wouldn't feel this way.  What if HMSs Jack and Jennifer
boinked on a pool table?  Would you have the same reaction? I don't
think so.  You may not like it, but you would say "poor J&J - can't
the writers give them a good scene"  Even if you found out later that
Melissa Reeves choreographed the scene?  You'd still forgive her.

The point is, hate Carly if you want to, but I think we should be
fair and hate her for legitimate things.


-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services

      *********************************************************
      To add a little levity to this subject I must say that
      if I saw Jack and Jen in that boinking scene on the pool
      table I would have first checked to see if I had the
      right soap on and then leaped around the room in sheer
      ecstasy!  :-)  Propriety would have been my last thought
      but that's because J&J receive so little sex and about
      the same amount of air time.  My complaints stem from the
      fact that Carly is the only one who receives those kinds 
      of scenes plus she gets to choreograph them. It's obvious
      she's Corday's favorite judging by her mega air time.  I
      guess it's this preferential treatment that has made the
      posters here use this form of communication as their
      catharsis.  No one is listening to us at DAYS anymore. 
      I'm all for fairness.  If DAYS was I think you'd see a 
      lot less Carly bashing.
      
      
      ======
      Coleen
      ======
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Bleak House
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:22:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Okay,

So how about tossing around some ideas as to what is the
mystery behind J&J's new home.

I sure hope that it does not become a haunted house storyline.
I am afraid that this may be the case what with the fact that
all the other tenants left in such a hurry, and that it was
supposedly after moving into that house that Laura wigged out.

And what is in that mysterous box. Could Laura, Bill, or
both have been involved in some medical or psychiatric 
experiments that went wrong? That the mystery box is something
on the order of Pandora's box, and once it is open some diease
to will be unleashed? Bill commented on Jack moving slowly--could
this be some foreshadowing? Could working in the attic have brought
him in contact with something, and Jack will become effected by it?


Has Bill been lying all along about Laura's condition? Was he
behind it? Can she be cured? If so is this cure connected to
they mystery of the house? Again, Jack's talk with Jenn could
be foreshadowing Laura's return.

The way the J&J stuff ended today was odd. It appeared when Jack
rested on the coach that this was a set up for something--for some
supernatural experience. However, that was the last J&J scene for
the day. 

I don't mind some semi-odd explanation. Though, I really think that
a "ghost" storyline would be rediculous and would just make Jack
more of a fool--since of course he would be the only one who sees
it/them; and Jack has already had his share of ghost episodes.

Spudnix--YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAWWWWWW. It is official. There just was
a special report on the local station. The San Francisco Giants
will remain in SF and will not be going to Florida. Prepare for
another Bay Area Series next Oct. (sans earthquake).--Peel


-- 
Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]
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From: EFS6MEF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: DOOL:  Did anyone else get a postcard from M. Sabatino?
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:29:17 PST

I am a very confused Peel.  I got a postcard "from" Michael
Sabatino asking me to vote for him in the Soap Opera Digest
Awards.  I've never written the man in my life, how did I get
on his mailing list?  Could this be the same mailing list that
netted me (no net-pun intended) a postcard from Stephen Nichols
asking me to watch him on SB?
Inquiring fruit want to know...
**Razzie
From: sandra@felix.filenet.com (Sandra Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:  Tad Lotto
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:34:09 GMT
Reply-To: sandra@fritz.filenet.com (Sandra Cole)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA



First let me say that mere words cannot express how ectactic I am over
the imminent return of Tadsky:-)

Okay, on to the bets.  Yo, Lance here are my new dates:

	December 24 00:45:00

	Alternate date:  January 5 00:25:00

	Beverage of choice: 	Pilsner(if I'm on the wagon I'll take
				a kiwi strawberry snapple)
				
Say Lance, Have you seen the "Free Your Mind" video by EnVogue(it's
a departure from their usual style), and if so what do you
think of it?

*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
Sandra Cole				||     X == Y; !;
sandra@felix.filenet.com		||
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: Y&R Is is just me?
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:08:33 GMT

In article <Aey9ywK00WBLI8eqoX@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Victoria's within months of being 18 and an adult. She's got this
>
>Just had to unlurk momentarily for this.  Victoria is NOT that close to
>being eighteen.  She just had her seventeenth birthday about ONE MONTH
>ago.
>
>And another thing, since when has Nikki told Victoria what to do?  I've
>always thought that she was sadly lacking as a parent.  I would think
>that if Vicky longed for freedom from anyone, it would be her father. 
>And I don't get it.  She wants to be totally independent, yet she wants
>and even expects Victor to finance it?  That's hardly my idea of
>independence.
>
>Jenn

I really agree with the last part. I heard Vicky even got Daddy dear to
pay for her therapy. Geez, what kind of marriage does she have? And
isn't Ryan making enough to pay for a session he insisted upon, since he
just can't stay married without doing the wild thing? This Ryan guy
sounds so stupid to me. I never understood why he married Vicky and got
himself into all that trouble, when he could have had a rich girl that
would suck up to him completely. I mean he could have used Nina's money
to create his OWN business and BE THE BOSS. Yet he picked Vicky, whom
I'm still not convinced he loves enough. This guy is simply confused and
DUMB. Anyone who's that dumb deserves whatever Victor gives!

Feli.
From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Couples -- YOU Decide!
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:43:04 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA

In article <1992Nov9.092157.2293@utkux1.utk.edu> mroberts@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (Mary K.) writes:
>What man, if any, would you like to see paired with the following women?
>(And "why?")
>
1.  Angelique - Tom:  They're both a bit boring IMHO

2.  Brooke - Tad:  I used to think Tad and Dixie should get back together.
                   Sometimes I still do.  But today, I'm leaning more
                   towards a Brooke/Tad pairing.  I liked them best
                   together when they were working on exposing someone.

3.  Dixie - Stuart:  Although they both have seemingly low IQ's, they are
                     sweet, and I believe the two of them together could
                     withstand Adam.

4.  An-Li - Terrence:  I wish they'd focus more on this pairing!  I think
                       they're cute together.

5.  Erica - Jack:  I know some people think that Jack turns into a wimp]
                   when paired with Erica, but I didn't see that.  I thought
                   for the most part he loved her the way she was.  
                   
6.  Hayley - Tad or Charlie:  I think she'd make a great detective!

7.  Livia - Jack:  I can't make up my mind about who Jack would be better
                   with:  Erica or Livia.  I don't like him with Angelique.
                   I think he and Livia could be great partners-in-law!

8.  Taylor - Craig:  Not that I'd willingly stick anyone with Craig, but
                     I think it would be interesting to watch the two
                     trying to con each other. :-)

9.  Natalie - Trevor:  Keep them together for a while, please!  I'm really
                       getting to like the new Nat.

10  Galen - Steven:  She doesn't deserve any better. :-)

11  Myrtle - Palmer:  But only if Opal was out of the picture.  I think
                      M&P could have some great dialogue/fights! 

12  Phoebe - Langley:  Where has he gone, anyway?  Anyone know (in 
                       RealLife (TM))?

13  Ruth - Joe:  Recently, Joe is the only person who can keep her
                 from meddling!

14  Gloria - Lucas:  I know there isn't much chance of this happening,
                     and I'm not really sure why I like the idea of them
                     together, but I do! :-)

15  Mimi - Dimitri:  I think Mimi would make a *great* countess!  And
                     she'd keep Dimitri in line.

16  Helga - Edmund:  Well, why not?  They're both cuckoo!

What about:

Opal - Palmer:  I like these two together, but they don't really have
                enough of a storyline right now.  Maybe with the 
                return of Tad and the new arrival of LoveBug II, we'll
                see some more excitement here.

Gotta go now.  Thanks for bringing up this topic, Mary K!

-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs              "Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
gibbsm@ll.mit.edu
From: bdangelo@opal.tufts.edu (Barbara J. D'Angelo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Spoiler from SOM
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:16:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov8.191731.9330@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, mon@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (m.t.shareshian) writes...
>> >   Although not confirmed by ABC, the word is that Robin Mattson had
>> > agreed to come back to GH and revive her role as HEATHER as soon as
>> > she leaves her role as GINA on SB.
> 
>Wait a minute, are we talking about Heather (whacko) Weber?
>Can this be right?  I thought she was married to Jeff, Rick's
>brother?  Lordie, that was a lifetime ago (are all the Webers
>dead or what?).  Perhaps this means McGuyver will come back
>too?  Why don't I remember Heather Weber having a relationship
>with Scotty?  Weren't those the Scotty/Bobbie/Laura triangle
>days?
> 
Heather was married to Jeff, they had a son (I can't remember his
name) and were divorced.  Jeff has custody of their son and they left
PC together (I think they went to Phoenix).  Heather followed them when
Robin Mattson left GH.  Maybe she can come back to PC along with her
son who is probably now about the same age as Jason/Karen/Brenda/Jagger.

Heather was involved with Scott but it was much later than the Scott/Bobbie
Laura triangle.  Heather was involved (engaged?) to Joe Kelly who had
defended her in the murder trial of Diana Taylor (her mother was the
murderer!).  Scott and Heather made a great pair--a Lucy/Heather/Scott 
triangle would be fantastic!

As for the other Weber's:  Rick and his son left PC before Jeff did, I 
think he also went to Phoenix and that Jeff went out there to be near
his brother.  Leslie is dead.  Luke and Laura (Laura was Leslie's 
daughter) are living on a ranch in Texas.

Barbara
From: lindamo@ism.isc.com (Linda M.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Does Erica Deserve An Emmy?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:52:02 GMT
Organization: SunSoft Inc., Los Angeles, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparkle

In article <1992Nov12.094941.20212@utkux1.utk.edu> mroberts@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (Mary K.) writes:
>I really feel sorry for Susan Lucci--always winning a nomination, but
>
some stuff deleted..

>I think some of her best dramatic scenes in the past few years were: 
>
>3.  When she cut Jack down to size, telling him that he was not without
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That one was great...

>    fault and that he should put his ego in check--that her every little

>she have won the award?  Comments, please.  (Feel free to add to the
>list)

I also thought that her scenes with Mona when whe learned she had cancer,
when she was fussing over her, and especially when she took Mona home
prior to her surgery and made a rather bad dinner and was trying to amuse
her by playing Crazy 8's were really good.  Maybe its just me, but I thought
she really did her part well - strong Erica faced with something that really
rocked her world and something that everyone faces at some time in their
life, i.e., loss or potential loss of someone who represents a stable, loving,
part of one's life, and one, in Erica's, case whom she frequently takes
for granted.  She reacted exactly as you would expect someone like her to
react - brave front to the world, quiet moments of real insecurity, and 
anger at being confronted with something she couldn't conquer herself.  And
I did shed a tear when Mona stopped her at cards and said we have to talk about
the possibilities... my things are in order, etc..., and she listened, and
finally when things got too scary for her she took up cards again with a
vengeance.  And then when she told Dimitri off while Mona was in surgery ? 
and said that he didn't even matter, in the scheme of things, that it was
her mother's welfare, etc... that was of real concern (even though we all knew
she was gonna go back with him....) I thought she was quite convincing there
too.

Just my 2 cents....            

Linda Moore
>
>-MaryK
>
>


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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: GH: Lucas/Bobby/Tiff custody
Summary: agreed (it all makes sense now)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:40:10 GMT

Jenn said:

JA> But what you are both forgetting is that Cheryl wasn't only on the
JA> outs with Tiffany. 

Right....I had forgotten that.

JA> I can see Cheryl wanting Bobbie to have custody because she took care
JA> of the child for the first year-and-a-half of his life.  Not to
JA> mention that she's a nurse, her husband's a doctor, and Lucas is
JA> diabetic.

Again, I see the logic. After watching it yesterday, I can say now, that
it was the "most logical" choice. Tiff and Sean have never wanted children
(until recently, and Cheryl didn't know this), and the Jones are more than
qualified. It makes perfect sense now. I hadn't really been following the
story until yesterday. After yesterday, I can understand the whole thing
better now. 

Man did you see the look on Tiff's face!? It was UNREAL. She was selling
it big time. I was *losing it.* That look was a classic. I got to give her
a thumbs up for that one. 

Fridays show was a killer:

She's back, and just as someone had suggested, Lucy is the one behind the
art theft. Althought I'm glad as hell she is back, I can't see where this
story is going. I mean what's going to happen when she gets caught? Is
Scott going to defend her (against Jessica...ooooh) if she goes to trial.
She will get caught doncha think?

Cheryl leaves Bobbie and Tone little Lucas. I guess Cheryl wasn't so loopy
after all. I mean anyone that has never heard of acetimenophen shouldn't
be parents.

Jenny sees Jack Kensington (I must say this was as anti-climactic as it
gets). They had to get to the custody thing, so they did have much time wo
work on this story. It was one quick look at at Jenn and Tracy looking at
Jennifer to see her reaction. Not much. Maybe Monday will be better.

I read where Mac will use a snowmobile to get up to the cabin and rescue
Felicia. Gee this smells like the Grant Putnam/Anna thing a few years
back. Didn't Robert have to rescue her from Grant up in montains with
about 3 feet of snow on the ground?

Mike

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From: san7675@zeus.tamu.edu (STEPH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT:Superdick
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:10:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.9NOV199219101536
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxFF8B.9HD@nic.umass.edu>, jbeckman@titan.ucc.umass.edu
(JILL BECKMAN) writes...
> 
>Just had to take a moment to vent my spleen. If the writers actually do
>what they've building us up for for days and kill off Hal, I will be
>totally disgusted!!!!! He's one of my favorite characters, for some
>reason, and there are lots of unresolved issues that still should
>be dealt with. (For instance, Adam. Dying would be such a wimpy way
>to resolve that.)
> 
>ARGH!!!!
> 
>-88Fingers
> 


My roommate and I were talking about this, and we've decided that he's not
dead...  They're lying to Margo and Barb to protect them from reprisals
by the Harpers, and they're not even going to tell Hal's family in Alva...
I bet you that Hal will reappear at some later date with a new name...


Steph
From: mb5g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marcus Wilhelm Banzhaf)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: getting better
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:52:06 GMT
	<1992Nov5.212026.2309@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Organization: Senior, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

well things are definitely looking up these last few weeks. If only we
could get more scenes like Roman/Marlena last week.  That scene really
gave me an eerie feeling.  It seemed like old time DAYS again.  

I really like Brady's pub.  Seems like it be a cool place to hang out
at.  As long as Billy is not singing that is. I'd shoot darts with
Tayler anytime though.  Speaking of Tayler, even though it seems like
her acting skills are a little weak, I'm giving this character a chance.
 For some reason I really like the character.  Hopefully the actress can
get a little more comfortable with the role in the next few weeks and
her acting will improve.  I kind of see this starting to happen already.

The young actor who plays Nikki is doing a great job.  I really liked
the scenes at the hospital after he had seen Viv.  He's really
believable.  He shows more believable emotion than some of the older
actors on this soap.

If only the show would concentrate a little more on J&J, John, and Julie
and continue using Lawrence and Vivian I think we could really start to
see a long term improvement.  They definitely need more continuity
though.  Continuity is what made that scene between Roman and Marlena so
terrific.  Especially Romans comments about John.  Lawrence and the rest
of Salem dealing with the rape would be far more interesting than simply
reforming Larry overnight like they have done to a certain degree.  

This is another weird comment, but Ivan is great.  One of the most
enjoyable characters to watch.  I'm not sure how'd he be in a real
storyline, but as an extra in the Alemain house, he has great
interaction with both Lawrence and Vivian.  I never liked this guy when
he first came on the show, but he's grown on me.  This is how charcters
on soaps become popular with me.  They need to be introduced slowly and
not shoved down my throat every day.  There are exceptions of course-
Diana was great from the start.  

well, thats all for now,
Marcus
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Zeus
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:46:19 GMT
Organization: Denver, Colorado

In article <49389@shamash.cdc.com> doreen@svl.cdc.com (Doreen Kasson) writes:
>Is there anyone else out there who feels sorry that poor Zeus has
>lost his owner?  I must say that Zeus is the second most adorable
>kitty (with mine being the first, IMHO).

Well...IMHO, my 3 kitties are way above Zeus.  :-)

Anyway, I thought that I had read somewhere that Zeus stays with
the Alamains, maybe becomes a personal pet of Ivan.  Other than
that, I don't know.  I do hope that Zeus stays on.

>OK, so I was the kind of person who would watch a movie where a building
>was on fire and worry that all the pets got out ok, so call me a 
>mushpot.

I am the same way...I have it all planned out if there is ever a fire
in my home, or some other disaster (ie tornado here in Colorado) and
even have a spare box of food near the carriers just in case.  

>Now, back to your regularly scheduled Carly bashing... (who I can't
>stand, BTW, and couldn't do anything aside from disappearing to gain
>my respect).

Can't stand her either, although this debate going on is actually
quite interesting and almost amusing!  :-)

>-- Papayaroonie
>

Picklet



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From: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Best line of the day
Reply-To: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:48:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.153529.14270@udel.edu>, robson@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Janice Robson) writes:
|> 
|> Did anyone else notice one of the scenes between Josh and Meg where
|> he "kissed" her before he left for Chilly's - it appeared as though
|> neither one of them really wanted to kiss.  Josh bent towards Meg
|> and she sort of pulled away - what do you think is going on between
|> these two? 
|>  
|> Stufmuffette ;)

Remember the back-burner infertility storyline?  I think they're gearing
up to make it a major issue.  Seems like Meg and Josh are going to be
around for a little while - or at least we're going to be hearing more
about the marital problems that are resulting from their inability to
conceive.  There's a lot of material here - Meg desperately wants to get
pregnant and can't, while two of her sisters who were trying not to get
pregnant did.  I think Meg is going to blow a gasket when she finds out
that Ellie had an abortion.  

Speaking of pregnancy, how's the mini-muffin?


GGG
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