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Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:43:13 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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In <16880@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu writes:

> 35 is also very young for COPD, unless she had some rare condition
> predisposing to it. Are you sure she didn't have asthma, which would
> be a much more common cause for respiratory problems at her age,
> and which may have had few or no physical findings in between attacks?

No, I'm not sure.  I think you may be right.  But still, I don't believe she
ever saw any MD for any pulmonary problems at all.  Whatta drag.

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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From: med50003@nusunix1.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN)
Subject: Re: The best way to treat Hyperthyroidism ?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:21:02 GMT

True. A scan would help differetiate sub-acute thyroiditis and Graves
disease. But I would expect sub-acute thyroiditis to present with a
tender goitre in addition to symptoms of hyperthyroidism. Graves (when a
goitre is present) is a diffuse, rubbery goitre. Exceptions do exist
though and if the other signs of Graves are absent or soft, then a scan
could be done. But the diagnosis of hyperthyroidism is made on the
thyroid function and not iodine uptake. 

gervais

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From: melissa@spanky.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Melissa Probst)
Subject: Fever Blisters
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:30:41 GMT

Do any of you have any recommendations on how to get rid of
fever blisters/cold sores?

Thanks in advance,

Melissa
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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Violence Epidemiologists vs the Gun Lobby
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:29:43 GMT

In <llrpp_d@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu () writes:

>I had mixed feelings while reading this article. On the
>one hand I was highly encouraged by the newfound courage of
>a very small, select group of government scientists to
>investigate this highly contentious matter. On the other
>hand, it was frighteningly apparent that this branch of
>CDC can be crushed in an instant by the gun lobby, at least
>at this very delicate stage of its existance.

	It is a very heart-felt issue on both sides, both by
the law-abiding gun-owners of this country and by the medical
community (not that they are mutually exclusive).  We'd  all
like to see deaths reduced, I'm sure, but there has yet to be
any indication that taking away one tool will prevent the job
from being done, nor has there been any indication that any
laws will stop people from killing themselves or others.

>"...when women killed with a gun, 'the victim was five times
>more likely to be their spouse, an intimate acquaintance,
>or a member of their family than to be a stranger or a
>person of undetermined relationship' ".

	This makes perfect sense when one reads the FBI crime
statistics and realizes that cases of spouse abuse, the hooker
shooting her pimp, and even a case of date rape all fall within
these categories listed above.

>"There is, it seems, an almost five-fold increase in the
>risk of suicide for those living in homes where guns are
>kept."

	In other words, the gun is used first.  Were it not there,
perhaps we'd see the knives and pills used more frequently.  Japan
is currently seeing increased suicide rates, and they do not allow
firearms of any kind in the hands of civilians.

>My congratulations to Science for having the courage to publish
>this article. They will catch flak, but I think they can
>take it!

	I just hope they can come up with some reasonable solution
instead of crying, "Ban all guns!"  My gun is still safer than Ted
Kennedy's car, statistically speaking, and I'd like to see the
medical community propose solutions that are based on sound data
and even a probable chance of success.  I'm sure the NRA would
love to work with them on this; sadly, the two groups seems headed
for a confrontation with you and I as the potential victims.

	I've not redirected follow-ups, but if you are interested
in the whole story on these stats, wander over to talk.politics.guns
and ask.  You are sure to be answered quickly, and politely if your
query is at all flame-free.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>



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From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Subject: Re: Whither sci.med?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:40:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.214018.1687@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David A. Nye MD) writes:
> In article <DLB.92Oct9113359@fanny.wash.inmet.com>, dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:
> > From experience, I suspect that a mailing list is the best way to go
> > for this.  Even moderated newsgroups can get a lot of readers, who can
> > flame via email and the like.  The nice thing about a mailing list is
> > that you can control, to an extent, who receives and sends what.  Of
> > course, you need a volunteer to get the thing up.
> 
> The problem with doing it as a mailing list is that you want it to
> be easily accessible to physicians who use the net casually and
> want to get an occasional curbside consult without reading the
> group on a regular basis.

I personally would prefer the net as a place for medical
discussions, because laypeople would be able to read threads on the
net but would be excluded from a mailing list, although I guess
that's the general idea of a mailing list.  If misc.health is
created, it would (hopefully) relieve sci.med from the less
technical discussions and allow sci.med to go in a more scientific
direction.  There is also the bionet hierarchy which is highly
technical in nature.

For myself, there wouldn't be much point to reading sci.med if all
the medical and health professionals left!

I'm on a Native American mailing list and we had a similar problem
that the Natives wanted to have a native-only mailing list, but
also wanted to leave lines of communications open to non-Natives.
So I think a native-only sub-group may be created in the future
that will be in addition to, not instead of, the anybody list.

The net is more convenient for me than a mailing list because I
have more control over when I read it, etc.
-- 
Krista Anderson, att!ihlpf!krista
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From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Munchausen by Proxy (was re: "Problem Patient")
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:24:36 GMT

In article <Bvq5zL.Gs4@inews.Intel.COM> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>There is a foster parent in the SF Bay Area right now who is suspected
>of doing it to her wards.  Several have died, all due to fantastically
>high levels of some metal.  Potassium, I believe.

That and sodium, apparently.  See article "Mental Disorder Adds a
Wrinkle to Abuse Cases" on B10 of today's NY Times (10/9).
(ObNonmed: next to an article on the hate mail "California Lawyer"
got after a cover story on lawyers who are gay: "Who cares about
some sodomizing legal faggots?")  The article is about Munchausen by
Proxy, even giving a handy checklist for detection..  Interesting
bits: "more than 200 cases have been uncovered by researchers since
[1977]".  "the Munchausen Proxy abuser is almost always a woman".

>John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: My wife drank during her pregnancy and the baby lived!!
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:33:10 GMT

Heck, there's a Marcus Welby episode where the good Dr. Welby actually
Recommends drinking "a glass or two of wine per day" to a pregnant
patient.

I don't know whether such episodes are edited to remove such obviously
bad advice, now that the program is in syndication.

== Bob Yazz ==
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Xref: sparky sci.med:19229 sci.med.nutrition:929
From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:38:52 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct12.175322.7873@ide.com> cda@davos.ide.com (Charlotte Allen) writes:

>
>Like gold injections for arthritis?  When I was a grad student at UCSF,
>this was the standard treatment at the rheumatology clinic.  The MD who
>headed the clinic, and taught some of my classes, said, when I asked him
>to justify this practice, "They like it and it doesn't seem to hurt them."

Gold injections are still used to treat RA. And they still work.

>And what about the previous standard medical practice of treating tuberculosis
>by collapsing the patient's infected lung?  

This practice had a good scientific basis - mycobacterium require an
environment high in oxygen to grow (that is why TB typically affects
the upper lobes of the lung, where there is more oxygen). Collapsing
the lung leads to an environment very low in oxygen. This practice
became obsolete when effective drugs to fight TB were developed,
not because the practice didn't make sense.


 -km
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Ketoprofen  was Re: Ibuprofen
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:24:56 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <Bw38LC.FnI@osaka-med.ac.jp> phc002@art.osaka-med.ac.jp (suzuki) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.183749.21577@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>>
>>I'd like to know about any adverse effects from taking Ibuprofen for an
>>extended period of time.  A related question is at what dosage can one 
>
>I have old article about Ibuprofen,
>and I repost it.
>    [deleted]

    Does anyone know anything about ketoprofen?  It works a *hell*
    of a lot better than ibuprofen at relieving pain, and yet
    is a prescription drug.  Why is this?
   
    Wayne
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From: jrt@omega.kcr.uky.edu (J. Randall Thompson)
Subject: Re: Flu Shot While Pregnant?
    <1992Oct8.152005.1882@ms.uky.edu> <MDF0.92Oct13145805@shemesh.GTE.com>
Organization: Kentucky Cancer Registry, Univ. of Ky
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:56:30 GMT

In article <MDF0.92Oct13145805@shemesh.GTE.com> mfeblowitz@gte.com writes:
>A small article in Monday's Boston Globe referenced a study that
>encouraged pregnant asthmatic patients to remain on their medications,
>stating that the complications to mother and baby of uncontrolled
>asthma in the pregnant mother are far worse than any known side
>effects of asthma medications. An asthmatic expecting mother that has

This is true. The most commonly used medications for the treatment of asthma
are considered safe during pregnancy; this includes chronic steriods,
methyl xanthine (theophylline), bata agnoists, etc. However, you can't
use that data to justify the use of influenza vaccine during pregnancy.

R.E. flu shot during pregnancy, the question is risk-benefit of vaccine
vs. none and unfortunately not all of the data necessary for making
a scientific decision is known; i.e. the safety of the flu shot in
pregnancy. The decision to give the flu shot needs to be stratified
based on the underlying disease and the liklihood of that person
benefitting from the immunization. In mild asthmatics I do not
recommend the vaccine, in severe asthmatics, I do. 

>asthma flairs triggered by any of the viruses contained in the flu
>shot would probably want to carefully weigh the risks of not having a
>flu shot.
>
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[]  University of Kentucky, Lexington, Kentucky                              []
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From: okagaki@kafka.SAIC.COM (Karen Okagaki x6515)
Subject: parotid gland inquiry
Organization: SAIC
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:49:38 GMT

Keywords: 

I've had chronic problems with my parotid glands since infancy.  They periodically get infected (staph) and swell.  I have always taken antibiotics for the infections and over the years have developed an intolerance to most antibiotics.  Currently, I can take Cipro or Bactrim, though my doctor says Bactrim doesn't do a thing for staph.  I have severe allergic reactions to penicillin and others that cross react.  I also am prone to psuedo membranous colitis whenever I take antibiotics.

I have had the following diagnosis:  extremely small parotid ducts, calcification of the parotids, calcium stones blocking the duct, parasites in the gland, insufficient enzymes in salivary fluid, Sjogrens(sp?) disease, and lymphoma.  I had surgery at 18 months of age for the possible lymphoma, but all they found was an abcess, which they drained.  Last year, I had the right parotid gland removed, and most of the duct.  This was supposed to cure me.  Eight months later, the remaining salivary tissue on th





e
 right side got infected (staph) and I'm back where I started.

I am sure of one thing:  I have calcium stones in my left parotid gland and in the remaining salivary tissue on the right.  I have been tested, poked and prodded, paraded in front of countless medical students from California to Boston, taken every antibiotic invented, and yes, I am miserable and in pain most of the time.

Does anybody know of anyone (AMA please.  I saw herbalists as a kid, and got no relief.) who might specialize in salivary glands, or who might have an idea as to why the glands get infected?  Or if the calcium stones can be removed or disolved?  Please e-mail your response.  I'm grateful for any help I can get.

Karen
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Forwarded message
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:46:07 GMT

I replied to this in alt.psychoactives.

-- 
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dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: sweeney@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Peggy Sweeney)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions about Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia
Summary: An anecdotal answer
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:20:57 GMT

In article <81499@ut-emx.uucp>, hamilton@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Rick Hamilton) writes:
> I have recently had someone very close to me diagnosed with Stage 0 CLL.
> After reading several articles on the subject, I decided to post here for
> any helpful information that "sci.med" users could provide me.  (I am an
> engineer, not a medical type).
> 


My dad died of chronic lymphocytic leukemia at age 72, about 5 years after
the first diagnosis. At a distance of 12 years, and after having heard
hundreds of horror stories about other illnesses and deaths, I have to
say that there are many worse ways to go. My dad experienced bouts of
tiredness -- and napped occasionally in the afternoon (something very
unusual for him) -- but he was up on the roof of his house replacing a
tile on the Friday that he went to the hospital for the last time. He died
the following Wednesday, slipping away peacefully with no pain. His lungs
filled with liquid and he died. 

In the five years between diagnosis and his death, he lived a perfectly
normal life, except that he stopped travelling to Europe every year. But
I think this was unnecessary caution on his part. He ate normally and
continued to enjoy life.

Losing a loved one is always difficult, but, if I had to pick a fatal
illness in these days of AIDS, Alzheimers, metastasizing carcinomas, strokes 
and other horrors, I'd pick that one.

I hope your loved one has more than five years. 

Peggy Sweeney
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: PSYCHIATRY: Where to study in the U.S.
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:13:58 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct8.124437.9605@abo.fi> FHERTZBERG@finabo.abo.fi (Fredrik Hertzberg Lit) writes:
>
>  I got a Fulbright scholarship from 1993- onwards for grad study in the
>U.S. I'm planning to go to California (to study English), but I've got one
>problem: what sould my wife - who becomes a licensed doctor in Dec 1993 - 
>do over there? She would be interested in specializing in pshychiatry or
>in working as a doctor in the U.S. Could anyone give us some information on
>what would be the wisest thing to do? (My grant is for one year, but I will
>try to stay on longer and obtain a Ph.D) We hope to go to California, but
>please suggest other good places for pshyc. study / doctor's work as well,
>and could anybodtell us what a foreign doctor needs to do before he/she
>may get an occupation in the U S. Is it terribly difficult and improbable?

It will be very difficult for her to *work*, but certainly she
could study or do research, and in a field as broad as psychiatry
that shouldn't present much of a problem.  The problem with foreign
physicians is they aren't eligible for a license and thus can't
see patients.  California is extra strict on this.  

As to where to study, California is a huge place and I would have
to know where you will be studying in order to make a recommendation.
UCLA, UCSF, and UCSD all have many interesting programs going on
in psychiatric fields.  I suggest she communicate with the appropriate
location of the University of California to determine the possibilities.




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From: ward@spock.corp.mot.com (Edward D. Ward)
Subject: Migraines and Pregnancy
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:13:40 GMT

My wife has been experiencing migraines for ~ 5 years and
has had some success using Fiorcet and Annaprox.  However,
She is currently 20 weeks pregnant and experiencing severe
migraines almost weekly.  During the previous pregnancy,
she only experienced the migraines during the first trimester
after which they abated.  however this time they have continued.
I'm wondering what treatments may be available which would be safe
during pregnancy.  Please Email and I will post results if their
is interest.  thanks in advance.

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From: park@netcom.com (Bill Park)
Subject: Risks of cataract surgery?
Followup-To: sci.med
Keywords: cataract laser retinal detachment
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:52:38 GMT

An article in the local newspaper reports a study by Georgetown U. and
Johns Hopkins on a risk to cataract sufferers from the cures.  It
implies that about 40% of cataract surgery patients experience a
clouding of the lens capsule within a few months that requires some
sort of laser procedure to make a hole in the capsule to let light
through without being scattered.  More alarming, the article says that
about 2% of patients who have the laser procedure suffer retinal
detachment, and all have four times the risk of detachment
thereafter.

A couple of my relatives may soon have to decide whether to have
cataract surgery.  What should they do to reduce the risk or estimate
it more accurately in their cases (80 year old woman, 72 year old man,
both white and healthy, with low blood pressure for their age).

What causes the clouding?  If it is an allergic reaction to the
artificial lens material, shouldn't they first test for sensitivity to
that material?

Also, why would a laser procedure tend to detach a retina?  What
exactly is the procedure?

Thanks,

Bill Park
-- 
Grandpaw Bill's High Technology Consulting & Live Bait, Inc.
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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Ibuprofen (one last time)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:35:30 GMT

I have not received any feedback whatsoever on my last post on Ibuprofen,
so if you have *any* information to share, please let me know (you might not
have replied thinking that somebody else had already done so for such a
simple request.)  Don't worry, I won't repost this request again.  Much
thanks.


In article noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I'd like to know about any adverse effects from taking Ibuprofen for an
>extended period of time.  A related question is at what dosage can one 
>take Ibuprofen on a long-term basis and not suffer any adverse effects.

Jon


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From: leff@sco.COM (Bill Leff)
Subject: Staph
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:01:01 GMT


Around 2 months ago I developed an itchy rash in my
armpits. The dermotologist identified it as a staph
infection, and prescribed Bactroban ointment for it.

After two weeks, I returned to the dermotologist,
as the rash hadn't abated. This time the antibiotic
Dicloxiclyn (250mg 4 times a day) was prescribed.
 
It's been two weeks and the rash has still not
gone away. 

Any ideas?

Thanks

-Bill Leff


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From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 12:47:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.224247.1821@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.185117.21004@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin) writes:
>>I'm neither praising nor panning homeopathy, but posted the letter
>>because some people seem to ocassionally get positive results thru
>>methods not yet accepted by the world's scientific community.
>
>Of course they do; that's the nature of things.  The difference between
>a corpse and a living human being is that given enough time, people
>tend to get better.  Do you think that there's anything to astrology
>because some people get positive results by having their horoscopes
>drawn up?  Please, don't answer that--it was only a rhetorical question.
>
>>I hope you don't develop arthritis when you slap your knee, but if you do, let
>>me know so I can spend some more of my money on stock in Bayer aspirin.
>
>I'm just lucky I don't have carpal tunnel syndrome from my "key-jerk"
>reactions... :-)

Very good & true point, but actually I'm happy to see a little humor in
this newsgroup;  after all, we aren't talking life or death here, or are we ;-)
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