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From: zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Limited telnet program?
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:51:13 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Followup-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <Bx9MK3.4nL@techbook.com>, jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
writes:
|> I would like to set up a limited telnet program for people to use.
|> Specifically, I'd like to provide local librarians a way of telneting to
|> selected online library catalogs via a menu.  If the telnet to that site
|> fails, I would want the telnet program to exit with an error level,
|> which I could then catch with a shell or program.  I don't want people
|> who use this account to be able to exit to a shell from within telnet,
|> and I don't want them to be able to telnet elsewhere.
|> 
|> If someone has seen a program like this, or has a reason why this is a
|> bad idea*, I'd like to hear about it.  It seems like it should be
|> reasonably secure for both us and the rest of our Internet neighbors.

The source of the BSD telnet seems to be available on a number of
anonymous ftp sites so if you're running on a Sun then this may help.
Use archie to look for telnet.c.
Meanwhile, I'm looking for something similar for HP-UX, i.e. a telnet
which disallows shell escapes (I'm not bothered about trapping errors).
-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
From: barr@stein.u.washington.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: HL7
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:37:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov12.233701.1619
Organization: University of Washington

Is there anyone out there using the HL7 protocol (health level 7)?
We're using it pretty heavily here at UW Med Center, and I was wondering
if there was anyone else out there who is using it.

David
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: fisk@engin.umich.edu (Mark D Fisk )
Subject: PVP packet video protocol
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:22:12 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: comp.protocols.misc

I am wondering if anyone knows of the location of the PVP (packet video 
protocol) on the net? I saw a reference to it in RFC 1077, but I could
not find an RFC for it.

Please E-mail any information to fisk@engin.umich.edu

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: ae830@yfn.ysu.edu (Mark Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: need Sisco address
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:15:19 GMT


I believe the company you are asking about is CISCO Systems Inc.
They are headquartyered in Menlo Park California
+1-415-326-1941 (telephone)
+1-415-326-1989 (Telefax)
They have a headquarters in Europe as well

+33(1) 6029 2000 (phone)
+33(1) 6928 8326 (fax)

I hope this is of some help

Regards...Mark Kilpatrick
ae830@yfn.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: fisk@engin.umich.edu (Mark D Fisk )
Subject: PVP (packet video protocol)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:28:29 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: comp.protocols.misc

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: PVP packet video protocol
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: comp.protocols.misc
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: 

I am wondering if anyone knows of the location of the PVP (packet video 
protocol) on the net? I saw a reference to it in RFC 1077, but I could
not find an RFC for it.

Please E-mail any information to fisk@engin.umich.edu

Xref: sparky comp.protocols.misc:826 comp.mail.uucp:2033 comp.unix.xenix.sco:3280
From: flanagan@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Dick Flanagan)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc,comp.mail.uucp,comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: uucp 'f' protocol for SCO XENIX
Keywords: uucp xenix protocol
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:41:51 GMT
Reply-To: flanagan@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Dick Flanagan)
Followup-To: comp.protocols.misc
Originator: flanagan@niagara

My configuration:  SCO XENIX/386 2.3.3 using Hayes SM2400 on residential
                   telephone line.

A potential mail site needs to connect to me via an outdial mechanism
that strips the eight bit.  uucp 'g' protocol obviously won't work.
However, 'f' protocol which apparently is a 7-bit protocol does not 
appear to be supported by SCO XENIX/386 2.3.3.  Is there a solution?
Is there a f-protocol add-on for SCO XENIX?  Is there some other fix
we are overlooking?

Please reply via e-mail and I will post a summary of responses.

Thanks for any and all assistance.

--Dick Flanagan

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Robert A. Bowman c/o ejhuff)
Subject: certification software for comm propocols?
Followup-To: comp.protocols.misc
Organization: SCE
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:03:30 GMT


Is there any existing software which tests an implementation of a
communications protocol?  Can someone recommend a book or paper on how to
design such software?

This project involves multivendor equipment which accepts messages from
async modem, transmits over radio to receiver with forward error
correction, and from there to a receiving computer.  Information about how
to go about designing tests for the various protocols involved is needed.

Please reply by e-mail to huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu, I will forward the
replies to Mr. Bowman, and summarize if there is interest.

--
huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Robert A. Bowman c/o ejhuff)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Luis Miguel Quinta <lquinta@animal.inescn.pt>
Subject: Accessing a remote LocalTalk
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72837A05302F690@mac4.inescn.pt>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:32:32 GMT
Organization: INESC Porto
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:12:56 GMT

Hi net gurus!

Can you help me with some suggestions, please ?
My company as several buildings on different cities. All buildings have
AppleTalk networks that I wish to join transparently to all users.
The major case is the two principal buildings. Both connected to Internet
through Ciscos. Both AppleTalks (including Local and EtherTalk) have
several zones maintained by routers running AIR2.0. Network A as a Cisco
and a GatorBox, network B as a Cisco and a FastPath connecting them to
ethernets. 
Witch is the best way to join zones in users' choosers so that all users
in all zones use remote services the same way they use the local ones?

I'm not considering solutions like ARA because I have all interest to use
faster accesses.

Does anyone experienced with a similar situation kindly give me a
suggestion ?
From: harrisjw@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Crimping 10-Base-T wire
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:13:21 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

First I want to thank the many people who sent me e-mail with advice for
10-Base-T.

I have a new question.  How hard is it to crimp RJ-45s when only using 2 pair
wire?  I believe 10-BASE-T requires using positions 1-2-3-6.  I was wondering
if most people just use 4 pair wire because it would be easier to crimp.  I
know this sounds wasteful, but I was thinking it might be easier.  And it's
there's a bad wire you can work around it.
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
James W. Harris, Memphis State University, Education - 200, Memphis, TN  38152
901-678-4632                                       harrisjw@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: greg@carnivore.tamu.edu (Greg Economides)
Subject: Re: looking for CHEAP Mac ethernet cards
Organization: Center for Biosystems Modelling, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:18:42 GMT

In article <19890.2afea422@ul.ie> 8905991@ul.ie writes:
>I hope this is the right newsgroup.
>Most of you out there must have ethernet cards, so  I was wondering
>what is the cheapest working ethernet card available for the Mac.
>I have a IIsi with neither the NuBus or '030 direct adaptor but I
>am prepared to buy either.

I bought a DaynaPort card for an SE/30 for $149.  The first one I got was
defective and Dayna replaced it quickly for me.  I have been quite satisfied
ever since.

Oh, yeah... how much is cheap?

Peace,
--
Greg Economides,   Systems Administrator, Center for Biosystems Modelling
Texas A&M University
WERC 214-O
Internet: econ@tamu.edu, Phone: (409) 845-9574
From: makmur@aramis.rutgers.edu (Hanz Makmur)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Hayes InterBridge problems
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:01:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
To: cl7841s@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU

In article <01GR0R0R6I0I000C07@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> cl7841s@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU writes:

> I just got an InterBridge back from Hayes after having it upgraded for
> phase II operation.  When we tried to configure it, though, it will not
> show up.  We have attached a "good" interbridge to the appletalk port of
> the mac and it shows up.  As soon as we swap in the unit we just got back, 
> it shows up for a second or two, then permanently disappears.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this before?  I guess that we will just have to send
> it back to Hayes again.  But it seems to me that they test the units they
> upgrade to make sure they are performing to the same specs as new units.  I
> shouldn't be having problems at all if that is the case.  Or maybe, my unit
> just slipped through!
> 
> Colin Lamb - MacMeister 8-)>  -  Drake University  -  Des Moines

aha... the old interbridge story again...
I recommend that you stay away from it as far as you can. The junk is
totally troublesome. 

I had 20 of these Interbridges before and I am happy to say that I got
rid of it last year. I replaced them with FastPath4+ which I got for
$500 a piece.

I recommend that you stay away from it. Replace it with a much mroe
reliable stuff (gatorbox, FastPath etc) You wont regret it.

Hayes Support was bad and I personally think that they are not doing
anything to the bridge or its software. I was told by the engineer a
long time ago that they are not planning to do anything new to it.


Just another unsatisfy customer of Hayes.


Hanz Makmur

Rutgers University
From: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Wesley Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Netatalk: More than one printer with papd?
Date: 8 Nov 1992 09:32:42 -0500
Organization: University of Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov8.135610.28898@colorado.edu> cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary) writes:
>Will netatalk work if I start up more than one 
>instance of papd, each with a separate configuration
>file, in order to show more than printer on the ethertalk
>network?

Yes.  Also, the new version of papd (which probably won't make it into
the 1.3 release) will be able to do what you're asking with one config
file and one instance of papd.  It will fork off servers as clients
make requests.  A lot of people seem to want to do what you're asking.

wes
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: mab@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Brown)
Subject: CAP vs EtherTalk2
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:50:49 GMT

Do CAP, UAB, or netatalk support EtherTalk2 on IBM RS/6000 AIX hosts?



-- 
Mike Brown, Network Systems Programmer		Internet: mab@cc.purdue.edu
Purdue University Computing Center		Bitnet:   xmab@purccvm
1408 MATH, Room B18				Phone:    (317) 494-1787
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1408, USA		Fax:      (317) 494-0566
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl (ekaftan)
Subject: Re: Where to find CAP
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:40:15 GMT

Troy Downing 212.998.5765 (DOWNING@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU) wrote:
: I'm looking for a complete and current CAP package. Any advice as to 
: where and how I can obtain this would be appreciated.
: 
: Thanks!
: 
: Troy Downing
: downing@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU

Try ftp rutgers.edu, login anonymous.

I took it from there yesterday. They have CAP60 and patches up to PL100

Also they have a patched version (What I took!)

Enjoy...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eduardo Kaftanski
ekaftan@ing.puc.cl
ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl
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From: tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: LocalTalk as link level for CAP?
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:38:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: wcc.2779
Organization: Webster Computer Corp, Melbourne, Australia

In article <2390001@otter.hpl.hp.com>, sjmz@otter.hpl.hp.com (Stefek Zaba) writes:
Context: a very small would-be home network comprising
 - an LC-II with no expansion cards, hence no Ethernet
  - an HP375 whose serial port can run at 230kbaud, i.e. LocalTalk
  speed

> The dream:
>  to run CAP on the HP-UX box, *using LocalTalk as the low-level protocol*
> 
> What sort of work would I be letting myself in for if I were to
> contemplate writing a LocalTalk link-level protocol

If you can program the HP to run 230,400 baud, FM0-encoded SLDC/HLDC
with aborts, pulses, microsecond-level timing resolution on RS-422
(tri-stateable driver), then you've got a chance. Translation - if the
serial hardware in the HP isn't a Zilog SCC, forget it!

> Save me from this silly thought, please :-)

You'd be better off running SLIP on both ends, or wait for a PD ARA
server. Or check out ARNS (arns.tar.Z) in the "mac" directory on
munnari.oz.au.

========================
Tom Evans  tom@wcc.oz.au
Webster Computer Corp P/L, 1270 Ferntree Gully Rd Scoresby, Melbourne 3179
Victoria, Australia 61-3-764-1100  FAX ...764-1179  A.C.N. 004 818 455
From: miked@TALARIS.COM (Mike Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: lpd on Macs
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:53:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  We just added a TCP/IP protocol stack in the printers we make.  This
normally works in conjunction with lpd on Unix systems.

  Does anyone know of an lpd facility for Macs that works in
conjunction with MacTCP?

  Any info would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks.
  Mike Davis
  Talaris Systems

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: keithl@klic.rain.com (Keith Lofstrom)
Subject: 5 bit subnetting in KIP and CAP
Organization: KLIC
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:59:54 GMT

The Background:
As a software-challenged hardware engineer, I should probably not even be
attempting KIP and CAP, but judgement was never one of my strong points ;-)

I am attempting to get CAP running on my sysVr4 (486/50) workstation,
to reach my IIci and LW+ through a Kinetics Fastpath II.  I have gotten
everything more or less compiled.  I have got a lot of little helpful bits
for the Mac end from helpful souls on the internet.  I haven't got it 
working yet (of course).

The network I am a part of - rainnet - is a class B network with 5 bit 
subnetting.  The ethernet is 147.28.18.64 to 95, (with broadcast address
147.28.18.95) and the appletalk can have IP addresses 147.28.18.96 to 127.
I have been calling my subnets klicether (18.64) and klicapple (18.96).  

The Question:

What do I need to tweak to convince all the various bits of KIP and CAP that
5 bit subnetting is OK?  There is a flag in atalkatab for 0,1,2, or 3 byte
broadcasts but no finer granularity, apparently.

Any code mods needed?  In which modules?  Is there any better documentation
on using KIP and CAP in small environments?   Is anyone else crazy enough to
try this with sysVr4?  Would you sell your expertise cheaply?   Am I ready
for the rubber room yet?

Keith
-- 
Keith Lofstrom         keithl@klic.rain.com       Voice (503)-520-1993
KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Power ICs
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Re: multiple phase2 zones on a network
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:47:57 GMT

mef@TE6000.OTC.LSU.EDU (Michael E. Fox (OTC - 203C D. Boyd)) writes:

>A localtalk cable can only have one network number.  I was not
>aware that a localtalk cable could have only one zone.  Is this true?

Yup. It's in Inside AppleTalk.

>Also, our Apple engineer tells us that zones are not allowed to span
>what you call "cable" (sections divided by routers).  I don't see a
>reason why not?  Do you have a source for this info?

Your Apple engineer is dead wrong. Not only is it in Inside AppleTalk,
we are doing it right now here. Zones are independent of networks.

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
From: ESPTIMON@ESPRIT.UCG.IE (I'd Enjoy The Day More If It Didn't Start At All)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Laser Writer Serial port Printer Drivers in an ethernet enviornment
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

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        folks,
             I am looking for an Apple Laser Writer Driver for Mac System 7
      Currently I am connected to an ethernet network and the printer
      driver I have redirects itself to printers on the network. I would
      to connect a local Laser Writer printer - this means the the printer
      driver can not use Apple Talk/Local Talk as this is disabled when
      the Ethernet is operating.

       Does any one know of a serial port driver or something like that.
      Yours without a working printer

                Feargal

A Quote for the moment:
You are capable of planning your future.
From: glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Phase I --> II (Q)
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:50:01 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: ruderman@phage.cshl.org's message of 5 Nov 92 21:08:30 GMT

In article <Bx9HE7.Bz3@phage.cshl.org> ruderman@phage.cshl.org (David Ruderman in Computer Center - CSHL) writes:

  >I am wondering what is the correct way for me to set up
  >	the actual routing,
  >	the new zone names, 
  >	the network numbers,
  >	and the network ranges.
  >How do I give out these numbers?  Who should do the routing?
  >Can I use the same Zone names on the gatorboxes if they are
  >transition routers?  
  >

When you set a GatorBox up to be a transition router, you must give 
different network numbers to the Phase 1 and Phase 2 networks (since
they are different networks, after all) and your Phase 2 network range
must be a single number (such as 2-2, since split horizon info cannot 
be propigated down a Phase 1 network.  

Otherwise, you follow the same rules as you ordinarily would while 
setting up an AppleTalk network.  Network numbers must be unique, zone
names don't have to be.  All routers sharing a network must agree on
the network numbers and the zone names.

Often people setting up Phase 2 for the first time think (erroneously) 
that they need to put all zone names into the EtherTalk zone list in order
for them to be seen by Macs on the Ethernet.  This is not the case.  
You need one zone name on an EtherTalk Phase 2 net, but can have more.

As always, questions can be directed to support@cayman.com or to me
directly at glen@cayman.com.

--

	*************************************************************
	Glen B. Glater				Phone: (617) 494-1999         
	Technical Support Engineer		Fax:   (617) 494-5167         
	Cayman Systems Inc.			Internet: glen@cayman.com     
	26 Landsdowne Street			AppleLink:  CAYMAN.TECH	      
	Cambridge, MA   02139            SneakerNet:  3rd cube on the left
From: tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: AppleTalk implementation in HP DeskWriterC
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:07:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: hemuli.TML.92Nov6180737
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for Information
	Processing (VTT/TIK)
NNTP-Posting-Host: tik.vtt.fi

I am using iwpr from CAP-6.0 to print files to a HP DeskWriterC.
Otherwise this works fine, but iwpr never notices that the printer has
finished printing the job... The static "rcomp" variable in the
"handleread" function never gets cleared. When using iwpr to print to
an LaserWriter, rcomp gets cleared and the program finishes. Has
anybody solved this problem?
--
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland,
Laboratory for Information Processing (VTT/TIK).
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch)
Subject: Re: multiple phase2 zones on a network
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:18:17 GMT

In article <1dra1gINNdv8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.212317.22514@novell.com> cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch) writes:
>>	Once a router (any router) has been seeded by _any_ means, 
>>	to too becomes a seed router.
>
>You know, I've always wished someone would distinguish between authoritative
>and non-authoritative zone lists.  A seed router would have an authoritative
>zone list, and a non-seed router would be non-authoritative.

	That would be nice, but ...

>Granted, this can't be done today without modifying the protocols, but it is
>sorely needed.  There really ought to be a clean way to do a gradual reload
>of routers on a network.

	This is a trusted host issue (who shall you accept network
	configuration or routing information from), which is a form
	of security.  Ugly configuration is the price you pay for
	plug and play workstations, and definitely can stand to be
	improved.

	Chris
---
Chris Ranch
Internetworking Products Division
Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
(408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com
I may work for Novell, but I don't speak for them...