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From: bagchi@eecs.umich.edu (Ranjan Drzzzzt!  Bagchi)
Subject: Ack --- I'm graduating in less than 5 months!!
Organization: Recreational Creationists, Inc.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 09:10:01 GMT


	People who know these things --

	I'm graduating this May with a dual BS in Math and CS.  I'm
starting my job search with the new year.  The horror, the horror.  

	I've read the last couple hundred posts on m.j.m and I think
I've got a general idea of what I'm going to be dealing with in the
searching process.  I'm probably not going to advertise my Eagle
Scout, nor voice my frustration with BSA for making a mess of the
whole thing.  Like everything else I did in High School... it was a
long time ago and only my grandparents really care.  I'm not going to
try anything cheesy like print resumes' on fluorescent paper or list
'girl-watching' as a hobby.  Or both. 

	What I'm asking is what I should do.  My general strategy is
to post to m.j.r (once? every month? week?), respond to advert's on
m.j.o (always through the proper channels -- no unwanted e-mail from
me, I'll blow the .29c) and use the campus recruiters.  Is that
thorough enough?  Seeing as I pretty desparately want to leave
Michigan, should I dig up copies of the San Francisco Chronicle?  The
Austin paper?  Seattle Times?  

	I've got a base resume' handy -- right now I'm shifting and
updating the stuff on it.  I've been doing real-job type work
for the last year and a half, so I'm going to give it emphasis.  How
do I bring out that I've been taking PhD-level classes for the
last couple years?  Is it worth doing?  What do I say in a cover
letter? "Dear Prospective Employer, I'm graduating, do you have
anything interesting for me to do?"  

	I'd appreciate insight from those who've gone through the
process before -- and anyone else for that matter. 

	-rj 

--
Ranjan Bagchi					       Ranjan.Bagchi@umich.edu
oo   oooo  o oo   ooo oo oo   oo       o o  oooo ooo o       o        oooooooo
From: s674@cs.utexas.edu (Spring Class Account)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Job Info Exchange & Thanks for Re: Help-me-find-a-job DEAL
Date: 19 Dec 1992 17:36:58 -0600
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: sahara.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: job openings

I would like to thank all of the people who have tried to help
me find a job either by giving me suggestions or by forwarding
my resume to their companies. One day if I already have a steady
job, I won't forget the experience, and I will also try to help
unfortunate college graduates to make it on their first jobs. 

I am currently living in Los Angeles, and I have an access to a newspaper
called JOBTRAKKER which contains job openings for business, CS,
science and engineering majors. From my experience, I had
a better chance of getting a response from this publication than
from a local newspaper like LA Times or Orange County Registers,
since JOBTRAKKER is probably circulated only in career centers at a
few colleges in LA. I am interested in knowing entry-level 
electrical engineering openings (for Bachelor's) in other parts
of the country. If you are interested in exchanging job
information, then please drop me a line.

-Freddy Tan

p.s. if you're looking for an employment in research with the University
of Texas, let me know. You can do a "telnet" to UT for this info. However,
most the openings require MS and PdD degrees.
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Advice from a hiring manager on resume
Date: 11 Dec 1992 16:56:03 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<1992Dec11.162848.22853@sol.UVic.CA>
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: mbond@ugly.UVic.CA's message of Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:28:48 GMT

mbond@ugly.UVic.CA (Michael  Bond) writes:

   What do they want when an employer asks for your salary requirements?

   How do you avoid ruining your chances at a job because you asked for to
   much or too little?

If they ask you this before they've made it clear they're going to
make you an offer, you can simply answer that you expect to be paid a
competitive salary but you think it's more important to establish
whether you're a good match for the job before worrying about
negotiating your salary.  The only possible exception to this would be
if it's obvious you'd be taking a pay cut; make sure that the
prospective employer knows that you're willing to consider the job
anyway.

If you're a new grad, you can get a pretty good idea of what a typical
salary would be from your college placement office.  Otherwise, use
what you're currently making.  You might want to adjust this upward if
you're moving to an area where the cost of living is high, or if the
benefits are lousy, or if the position involves significantly more
responsibility than your current job, etc.

Also, it's perfectly acceptable to give a range rather than a single
figure -- e.g., to say you want $40-50K rather than $45K.  Just make
sure that the figure on the low end of the range you give is actually
something you'd feel comfortable accepting.

-Sandra
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Objectives
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:06:35 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Dec12.010229.10237@mumbo.apple.com> tse@foolish.apple.com (Gary Tse) writes:
>
>OBTW, I've been fielding calls from an unusually large number of head
>hunters and HR types for the last month or two.  Is this true for other
>folks on the net [in the SF Bay Area]?
>
    Dunno if it is a good sign about longterm job prospects or
    not...or just that local companies have obligations that are not
    staffed for.  But yes, since about July, the local recruiting
    calls in the Bay area does seem to be picking up a bit.

    I wouldn't say they are back to the levels of 3-4 years ago, but
    traffic has definitely picked up.


     
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Can I setup a retirement plan?
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:17:37 GMT

In article 2690@cronos.metaphor.com, shankar@ouyang.metaphor.com (Ravi Shankar) writes:
>I got a software contract with a client through a job shop. I have been 
>working on this contract. The job shop retains a percenatge of my income
>from the client and I receive a W-2. This job shop does NOT offer any 
>retirement plans such as 401K. 
>
>Under this situation, will I be able to setup a SEP-IRA or Keough Plan? 
>If not, will I be able to do it if I were to incorporate?

Check with a financial advisor for full details.

I believe that you do not qualify for either a Keogh or SEP-IRA, since you 
are NOT self-employed.  As long as you are paid on a W-2, you are an 
employee. 

If you incorporate, and are still paid on a W-2 (I don't know why you might
want to do this), you are still an employee.

If you incorporate, and are paid as a corporation, you can have a Keogh or SEP.
But make sure that incorporation has a valid purpose, and is not just a sham
to avoid taxes, etc.  This is something that the IRS looks for.

You can also have a Keogh or SEP if you are a sole proprietor of a business.
You would be paid on a 1099, although most job shops are very reluctant to 
do this as a result of the IRS and Section 1706 of the tax code.


---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: rnace@halcyon.com (Roger Nace - Excell Data Corp.)
Subject: Contract: Sr. Systems Analyst - Seattle WA
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:31:28 GMT

Customer/Project: Licensing System - Senior Analyst

Location:  Redmond, WA (Near Seattle)

Project/Work Description:   Requires consultant skilled in software
methodology to develop Functional Specification for an client/server
application using an in-house methodology.  Consultant must work
independently and be able to communicate effectively with end-users.
Needs to develop DETAILED user requirements, top-level design, and User
Interface prototype screens.  This will be a client/server application
using Visual Basic for the user interface and SQL Server as the backend
database.

Job Start Date: Jan 4th

Job Length:  3 months for the analysis work.  Potential up to 9 months if
the consultant can perform other project work (i.e. design, code, test,
documentation) 

Skills:   Strong understanding of software development methodology and
ability to work independently.  Should be familiar with client/server
applications and relational database technology.  Strong communication
skills, both verbal and written required.  Must have 5+ years as an
analyst.

Benefits:  Vacation, sick leave, holidays, full medical & 50% dental.

Contact:  Roger Nace,  rnace@excell.com

EXCELL DATA CORPORATION      
9750 Third Avenue N.E.    Suite 101    
Seattle, WA 98115    
(206) 527-1890
Fax: (206) 527-0120
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: ghines@seanews.akita.com (Gary Hines)
Subject: Interview Travel Expenses
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News + Mail
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:57:41 GMT

Last week a job shop called to let me know that one of their
customers wanted to interview me but that I would have to pay
my own travel expenses.  I said no thanks.  In this case the 
travel costs would have been about $600 and the job was a
three month contract.

Since I am new to the world of contract software work, could
some of the experienced job shoppers please tell me what is 
typical with regard to payment of interview travel expenses?

Is the job situation now so competitive that many applicants
are willing to pay their own travel expenses?  Dont't most
employers conduct an initial/screening telephone interview
before setting in-person interviews?

I'd welcome e-mail replies at ghines.seanews.akita.com.

Thanks!

Gary H.

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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady)
Subject: Re: U.S. IRS 1099-MISC form
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:02:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.144836.24253@unixland.natick.ma.us> bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
>In article <9212101729.AA00537@Surgicad.COM> rw@Surgicad.COM (Randy Witlicki) writes:
>>
>>
>>My understanding of the U.S. IRS rules for when
>>someone has to generate a 1099-MISC form is:
>>
>>If "Jack's Plumbing" installs my new bathroom for, say, $2000,
>>if he is a corporation I just send him a check, if he
>>is a sole proprietor (he does a 1040 Schedule C) then
>>I am supposed to send a 1099-MISC to the IRS as well.
>>
>
>Right. The general rule is you have to file a 1099-MISC for each
>independent contractor to whom you pay at least 600 dollars per year
>for services rendered. You do not have to file a 1099 for any
>contractor you used who is incorporated..

Does this apply for a private non-business individual?
Suppose Joe Six-pack, a poor working stiff, has a plumber
install a new bathroom.  Does Joe have to ask the plumber if he's a
corporation, and send in a 1099-MICS if the plumber isn't.
If so, how's the average Joe supposed to know this?
-- 
Dick Grady           Salem, NH,  USA            grady@world.std.com
So many newsgroups, so little time!
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: Re: Interview Travel Expenses
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:57:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.173503.19051@netcom.com> wtwitty@netcom.com (Pacific Systems) writes:
>In article <724343419snx@tixel.mv.com> jarnold@tixel.mv.com writes:
>>But for contractors, it seems (from my limited experience in this area
>>to date) that the interview travel expenses are your own nickel.  While I
>>don't personally think it should be that way, it seems like many companies
>>who hire contractors are taking advantage of the glut of independants
>>currently available due to high-tech layoffs, and seem to feel they can
>>impose those charges on the applicant.  Rule of Economics 101: The law
>>of supply and demand...

>I think that you have to evaluate each situation based on how much
>you want the job and how interested the client is in you.  
>If you really need a job and can afford to pay for the trip, I would
                                                              ^^^^^^^
>suggest a telephone interview first and if the client is still interested,
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>take the plunge and pay for the trip.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have to disagree with this.  I believe that a willingness to pay
for interview travel expenses is a good litmus test to determine
whether or not a company is serious about hiring.

I recall what happened to friend of mine who drove from
Birmingham, Alabama to Dallas, Texas for an interview
with him paying the travel expenses.

Two weeks before the interview:
"Hurry and come on in for an interview.  We have plenty of job
openings!"

The day of the interview (in person):
"Well.....  Dallas is going through a recession....  There have
been hundreds.... no, THOUSANDS of people laid off in the area.
We don't have any openings right now, but we'll keep you in
mind...."

-- 
Paul Ortega                 |  "While looking for the men's room,
2015 Cedar Bend Dr., #1105  |   VP Dan Quayle stepped into the Quantum
Austin, TX 78758            |   Leap Accelerator and vanished....."
ortega@cactus.org            ---------------------------------------
From: sawtelle@mariposa.stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Interview Travel Expenses
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:08:07 PDT
Organization: Stonecutter Software
Reply-To: sawtelle@stonecutter.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <724343419snx@tixel.mv.com> (misc.jobs.contract), jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold) writes:
> But for contractors, it seems (from my limited experience in this area
> to date) that the interview travel expenses are your own nickel.  While I
> don't personally think it should be that way, it seems like many companies
> who hire contractors are taking advantage of the glut of independants
> currently available due to high-tech layoffs, and seem to feel they can
> impose those charges on the applicant.  Rule of Economics 101: The law
> of supply and demand...
>

Often there is a reasonable way to formalize the contribution you make
during your initial visit so that it's clear to the company that they
are getting something for their money even if they don't hire you for a
long-term project.

Many companies don't have their objectives well defined when they start
looking for someone to work on a project. If you commit to providing a
proposal that defines their problems well and maps out some potential
solutions, they can view your visit as providing a deliverable that's
well worth some cost to them, even if they just use the information as
an aid to hiring someone else.

You can discuss problems and objectives with the client in a couple of
extended phone conversations to get them to the point where they know
your capabilities and experience well enough to trust you to come
through with such a worthwhile deliverable.

---
Don Sawtelle:Stonecutter Software:Mariposa, CA
sawtelle@stonecutter.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: isc@panix.com (David Koosis)
Subject: C/Unix/Sun Contract - NYC - Recruiter
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:04:55 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: ISC Consultants seeks C/Unix/Sun programmer NYC

ISC Consultants has several mid-level C/Unix contracts
available at a NYC-based brokerage. 

The project is a fixed-income trading project using
C/Unix, Interbase (Borland's Unix database), and a 
proprietary GUI that supports X & Curses.

If you have experience with any or all of the above,
this assignment may be the one for you.

Interested parties should contact 
David Koosis at the address indicated on the .signature.

Fax'd cover letters/resumes are welcome: 212-477-9895

All responses will be acknowledged.

regards, David 
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ISC Consultants NYC 212-477-8800 Training/Consulting Since 1973 isc@panix.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,ne.jobs
From: strod@spdcc.com (Eran Strod)
Subject: Wanted: i860 microcoder
Followup-To: Tom Charlesworth, Alacron Inc
Keywords: i860
Organization: Alacron Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 14:32:09 GMT


Alacron Inc is a dynamic start-up in Nashua, NH that produces hardware and
software for i860-based board level co-computers.  Sales are growing rapidly,
and in 1992 alone, Alacron has doubled its staff size to about 20.  

While the co-computer division continues to expand, members of Alacron's 
staff are doing research in preparation for the future development of 
applications in the area of AI/imaging/Neural Nets.

We have an immediate opening for an experienced i860 microcoder who will
develop routines for our scientific and imaging library.  An ideal
candidate would have: experience writing microcode for the i860; experience
writing scientific, imaging and DSP functions; ability to work with FORTRAN 
and C; comfort in both Unix and DOS programming environments; and familiarity 
with the Portland Group tools for the i860 processor.

This job requirement is an offer for full-time employment, but we would 
consider a full or part-time contracter.
Alacron has offices in both Nashua, NH and Sacramento, CA.  We would prefer
to hire someone located in Nashua, NH, but in special cases, a telecommuting
situation would be considered.  Please make your intention clear in your
response.

Applicants may respond via electronic mail to:
		Tom Charlesworth
		tom@alacron.com

-- 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eran Strod			Internet: strod@ursa-major.spdcc.com
Alacron Inc			Prodigy: dnxs62a
From: Lance_Charles_Rowan@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: VMS Guru for San Diego (Broker)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:56:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Dec11.194101.18573@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com>

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie....there are many unemployed types who need work
and will gladly work extra hours in San Diego to help with life's necessities
It IS rather an indictment of your limited scope of thinking but when you are
in need of good work, you can bet no one will work harder at finfing you a
good assignment than MSA. Oh by the way, give me a call on the phone if you
care to discuss this further. This "hide behind the USENET" is all a bit 
childish. ;-)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: General Liability Insurance
Keywords: insurance
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:23:21 GMT

bleach1@pmsrs1.pms.ford.com (Brian M. Leach) writes:


>Does anyone know where I can get general liability insurance and
>how much I might expect to pay?  It's a requirement for a 
>contract I'm working on.

You need to find an agent who handles commercial insurance.  I got
mine, when I needed it, from the Commerce Insurance Company, through
a local agent.  Cost was $636.00 per year for $1,000,000.00 coverage.

I have no idea whether this was a good price, or a good company, but
it's available.  If your agent starts talking about $3,000.00 policies,
s/he doesn't know what you're asking for.  You may have to ask a lot of
questions if you care what a policy like this covers, but it's easy
to find something to satisfy the usual client concerns.


-- 
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=			    jkenton@world.std.com			=
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: U.S. IRS 1099-MISC form
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:34:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.150833.8594@unixland.natick.ma.us> bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
>In article <Bz4wwJ.Ku@world.std.com> grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec11.144836.24253@unixland.natick.ma.us> bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
>>>In article <9212101729.AA00537@Surgicad.COM> rw@Surgicad.COM (Randy Witlicki) writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>My understanding of the U.S. IRS rules for when
>>>>someone has to generate a 1099-MISC form is:
>>>>
>>>>If "Jack's Plumbing" installs my new bathroom for, say, $2000,
>>>>if he is a corporation I just send him a check, if he
>>>>is a sole proprietor (he does a 1040 Schedule C) then
>>>>I am supposed to send a 1099-MISC to the IRS as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Right. The general rule is you have to file a 1099-MISC for each
>>>independent contractor to whom you pay at least 600 dollars per year
>>>for services rendered. You do not have to file a 1099 for any
>>>contractor you used who is incorporated..
>>
>>Does this apply for a private non-business individual?
>>Suppose Joe Six-pack, a poor working stiff, has a plumber
>>install a new bathroom.  Does Joe have to ask the plumber if he's a
>>corporation, and send in a 1099-MICS if the plumber isn't.
>>If so, how's the average Joe supposed to know this?
>>-- 
>
>I believe the answer to your question is that only businesses have to
>file 1099 information returns. They don't apply to individuals. You
>might want to repost this on misc.taxes for confirmatiom though...
>
>
>
>-- 
>Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		

    In California, if someone contracts for a job over $300 he needs a
    contractors license, which makes him a business, I think
-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: Eli.Mantel@launchpad.unc.edu (Eli Mantel)
Subject: NC: Oracle, SQL*FORMS, Unix (recruiter)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:59:49 GMT

        work location: Greensboro, NC area
   skill requirements: Oracle, SQL*Forms, Unix
               salary: to $30/hour
     estimated length: 2-4 months w/possible extension
 
This opening requires 2 years of professional experience using SQL*Forms.
with at least some experience using Oracle or SQL*Forms on a Unix platform.
 
Please reference opening # NC1252 when calling or FAXing.  If you are
interested in this opening, please contact Dave Cassel at:
            Integrated Professional Services
            Attn: NC1252
            3200 Glen Royal Rd. Suite 100
            Raleigh, NC 27612
     Voice: 800-326-8263
       FAX: 919-782-2987
 
This notice is being posted for a firm that does not have Internet access.
Please send your resume by FAX or U.S. mail to ensure consideration for this
opening.  Thank you.
--
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: 0005667468@mcimail.com (MCL Systems Ltd.)
Subject: Exp. SYBASE for East Coast
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:10:00 GMT

MCL Systems is a growing consulting firm based at McLean, 
VA. Currently we are looking for consultants for a project in 
East Coast having experience in  
 
		SYBASE 
 
Please send your resumes to 
 
MCL Systems Limited 
2010 Corporate Ridge Rd 
McLean, VA 22102 
 
Fax :- (703) 749-1482 
e-mail :- mclsys@mcimail.com