From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: My Ugly American post for the year....
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:25:05 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Oct2.084533.12635@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
> From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
> >In article <1992Oct1.132209.25353@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
> >> have forgotten their own language because America has made
> >> English the dominant language of the world,
> > Now this is news - so the Americans are responsible for the death of the
> >Irish language? Hmmm..... quite an interesting view of things you have
> >Matthew. One might have thought that the English had a tiny bit to do with it
> 
> It is recognised that throughout Europe the power of the
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 Hmm... interesting - so of course this makes it true right? As I've tried
to point out Matthew, there are a variety of reasons why many beliefs
about the US would be widely recognized as true in Europe - envy not the
least of the reasons....

> American media-machine is a major factor in the detioration of
> interest in national cultures and languages. 
> The French (both
> in France and Quebec) actually have laws to try and control it.

SO let me get this straight - I believe that you are claiming that the
deteriation of, for example,  Celtic culture in Ireland is due to the 
United States
and not Great Britain right? The "American media machine" has somehow
managed to usurp the true power of European nations and undermine their
society - right? Again, I must ask you - even if we assume that this
is true - whose fault is it? Last time I looked the "American Media
MAchine" did not force Britain to broadcast Dallas, Rosanne, and various
other shows - or is there something I don't know? It seems to me that
there are citizens of Europe who enjoy watching American made movies,
drinking American made soda, eating American made food and buying
American made products in general - are you saying that they should be
denied that "right"? They should be forced to purchase only products 
made in the European Community (hahahahahahahahaha - I'm sorry I'm trying
to get over this urge to laugh whenever I hear these two words together,
really I am) ? Why should people be *forced* to behave and act in a way
they do not wish? For someone who trashes the fundamentalist right-wing of
the United states, you sure have a great deal of their "my way is the only
way" attitude...
 
> Well, posting articles suggesting that Americans be a bit more
> sensitive about other people's cultures *is* doing something
> about it.

 Really? What exactly? Is it going to make that little european youngster 
stop drinking Coca-cola or Pepsi? Is he going to stop wanting to buy
the latest Apple computer? And if he does Matthew - are you going to explain
to him why his father or mother are out of a job when the various
American firms close up shop in Europe? Your economy sucks as it is - without
America your in even deeper sh*t - of course you can always rely upon
your fellow Europeans like say the Germans to help you out.....



				gln