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From: baechler@lia.di.epfl.ch (Emmanuel Baechler)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:19:51 GMT
	<1992Apr5.101938.21082@draco.macsch.com>
	<1992Apr13.091752.22334@lth.se>
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin
Organization: DI-LIA -- Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
In-reply-to: bengtl@maths.lth.se's message of 13 Apr 92 09:17:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.091752.22334@lth.se> bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) writes:

>    Emacs isn't free, and neither is elvis. You have to get them, configure
>    them and compile them. A non-hacker can't do this. And how about support?

GNU Emacs is absolutely free. It is not as good as sophisticated than the Zmacs
I use for software developpment, but it comes for free. Our system manager has
never been any problem with it. Finally, it allows you to do things (like 
reading, News, your mail, or using a lisp window to do the developpment for
which you are paid) that very few other editor can do.

>    What you are saying is that Unix absolutely needs a wizard. That's no
>    news. But neither is it really desirable.

It may not be desirable, but it appears that if you have a big L.A.N.
you can't avoid them, whatever the OS you are using.

>     Making programs hard to service makes about as much sense as making
>     cars hard to service, because the auto technicians would like it.
>     Right?

And cars are indeed hard to service. One can't ask for a very complex
program like a multi-task multi-user OS (or an ATMS based logistics
system for an air company) and expect that the result will be simple
and easy to maintain.

You may have some serious problems with Unix, but, when I see the
nightmares that PC users encounter, especially when they are put
in a real lan (anything different from a pure star achitecture, where
they exclusively communicate with a single server), you can see
that Unix is not only livable, but good, reliable and efficient,
compared to the PC world.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: wallis@psychosis.ssc.gov (Dave Wallis)
Subject: Re: Password admin question
Reply-To: wallis@psychosis.ssc.gov
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas, TX
Distribution: comp.unix.admin
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:05:10 GMT

I got a mail reply from a person who mentioned that a new version of
'sudo' allows the config file to limit users to particular nodes.
However, I can't locate an ftp site that has this version. Can someone
point me in the right direction, please?

Thanks!
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Dave Wallis (wallis@psychosis.ssc.gov)
SSC Laboratory,
Dallas, TX
(214)708-3410
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.privacy,comp.admin.policy
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: expired acct shell [was Re: * in password field...
Summary: telnet vs. rlogin
Keywords: telnet rlogin expired account password
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 00:31:25 GMT

In article <KIMMO.SUOMINEN.92Apr6171242@lauri.it.lut.fi> Kimmo.Suominen@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen) writes:
>John> I'd be interested in getting a copy of /usr/local/lib/expsh
>Here is the C program that I use
>
>/* Shell for expired accounts  11.06.1990  Kimmo Suominen  */
>#include <string.h>
>main() { printf("Your account has expired.  Contact system admin.\r\n"); }
>That's it, real simple.

[C program format edited for brevity]

Excuse me if this is a FAQ, but I just tried that.
It works if you telnet in, but it doesn't if you rlogin.
	% rlogin hostname -l disacct
	Connection closed.
	%

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: nnguyen@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Nguyen Nguyen)
Subject: Help: Changing telnetd....
Keywords: Logon modification...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:22:44 GMT


Hi,

We have a Sun station running Sun OS, and we want to run a BBS
on the system.  What we want to do is to change the logon procedure
so that when an user logs (telnet or rlogin) to the machine, the
machine logs them in without asking username or password.  Does
anybody know how to do this?  The main concern that we have is the
security issue.  Is it possible to tell telnetd to use a default
account when people use telnet?  

Thanks very much in advance.

Nguyen Nguyen

* Please reply by email.  

nnguyen@diana.cair.du.edu
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Password admin question
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:59:10 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.admin
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

Tom Reingold writes
> 
> If someone knows the algorithm that "passgen" uses, he can guess what
> someone's password is.  While people often choose bad passwords, they
> can learn to choose good ones.  Programs cannot learn to choose good
> ones.  For example, if passgen uses the time of day to choose a random
> number and from that derives the password, a cracker only needs to know
> when the program was run to guess the password.
> --

Several other's have commented on ways of getting suitable random numbers.
In addition, a passgen program could be given a large block of text.  This text  
is used to create a probability table of letter pairs, where each entry is the  
probability of a letter following another letter.  Such a table would give you  
a reasonable chance of getting a "pronouncable password."  Then upper case a  
couple.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: taurins@neodata.uucp (Agris Taurins)
Subject: att605 termcap
Organization: NeoData
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:20:48 GMT


I know I'm going to get swamped, but here goes:

Does anyone have a termCAP entry for an att605?



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From: Kimmo.Suominen@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: * in password field in /etc/passwd --> What is it?
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:12:42 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Disclaimer: These are my opinions unless otherwise stated

>>>>> "John" == John Goodsen <jgg@uunet!widget> writes:

John> I'd be interested in getting a copy of /usr/local/lib/expsh
John> if it's possible.  Could you post it if it's small ?

Here is the C program that I use

/*
 * Shell for expired accounts
 *
 * 11.06.1990  Kimmo Suominen
 */

#include <string.h>

main()
{
  printf("Your account has expired.  Contact system administration.\r\n");
}


That's it, real simple.
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From: pd@x.co.uk (Paul Davey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Password admin question
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:43:37 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.admin
Organization: IXI Ltd.

>>>>> On 9 Apr 92 17:23:49 GMT, tr@samadams.princeton.edu (Tom Reingold) said:

Tom> wallis@psychosis.ssc.gov (Dave Wallis) writes:

Tom> I like to do away with "root".  I keep the entry in the passwd
Tom> database, and keep it at the top of the file, with the password
Tom> field invalidated.  Then keep a superuser entry for each person
Tom> who needs it.  So the top of the passwd file looks like this

Tom> root:*:0:0:superuser:/:/bin/ksh
Tom> rjohn:abcdefghijklm:0:0:John Smith as root:/:/bin/ksh
Tom> rmary:abcdefghijklm:0:0:Mary Jones as root:/:/bin/ksh
Tom> rbob:abcdefghijklm:0:0:Bob Brown as root:/:/bin/ksh

I've nothing against aliases for root but locking out root seems a bad
idea to me.

If under SunOS you do not label the console as secure in /etc/ttytab
then the root passwd is required to enter single user mode.

This could be unfortunate if you can't enter multiuser mode.

 

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From: wallis@psychosis.ssc.gov (Dave Wallis)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: expired acct shell [was Re: * in password field...
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:07:00 GMT
	<KIMMO.SUOMINEN.92Apr6171242@lauri.it.lut.fi>
	<1992Apr15.003125.23840@draco.macsch.com>
Reply-To: wallis@psychosis.ssc.gov
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas, TX

In article <1992Apr15.003125.23840@draco.macsch.com> todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:

   In article <KIMMO.SUOMINEN.92Apr6171242@lauri.it.lut.fi> Kimmo.Suominen@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen) writes:
   >John> I'd be interested in getting a copy of /usr/local/lib/expsh
   >Here is the C program that I use
   >
   >/* Shell for expired accounts  11.06.1990  Kimmo Suominen  */
   >#include <string.h>
   >main() { printf("Your account has expired.  Contact system admin.\r\n"); }
   >That's it, real simple.

   [C program format edited for brevity]

   Excuse me if this is a FAQ, but I just tried that.
   It works if you telnet in, but it doesn't if you rlogin.
	   % rlogin hostname -l disacct
	   Connection closed.
	   %

This is probably due to the socket getting shut down before the
message gets passed on. Try this instead:

#include <stdio.h>
main()
{
    printf( "Your account has expired.  Contact system admin.\r\n" );
    fflush( stdout );
    sleep( 5 );
}
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Dallas, TX
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.microport,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: XBBS Version 7.101
From: sandy@conexch.uucp (Sandford Zelkovitz)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:42:27 GMT
Organization: Consultants Exchange



XBBS is NOW SysV5.4.04 compatible!  Starting with version 7.101 of XBBS,
the code will now compile and run under ESIX 5.4.4. There is a new "makefile"
for ESIX 5.4 which permits this new operation. This new version of XBBS also
includes a new version of the sysop to user chatting program. 

As always, XBBS is free for the taking so enjoy!

Very soon, alphacm ( my home xbbs system ) will be up on a new 
486/50mhz computer system running ESIX 5.4.4 ( what else! ). The change over
will take place as soon as I get all of my files copied over to the new
machine....

Sandy


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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Backup Script
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: kakwa.1992Apr10.051115.21651
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

Pat Weeks writes
> Hello there!  Take a look at the following script for a Sun.
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> rsh -n airjordan /usr/adm/weekly.bck
> rsh -n forman /usr/adm/weekly.bck
> rsh -n leonard /usr/adm/weekly.bck
> rsh -n mcenroe /usr/adm/weekly.bck
> rsh -n tyson /usr/adm/weekly.bck
> rsh -n magic /usr/adm/weekly.bck
> 
> 
> 	Our problem is that if an error occurs in the middle of processing,
> the tape rewinds and we lose the good data at the beginning of the 2.3 gb  
tape
> 
> 
> Are there any commands in the bourne shell that will force a break out of the 
> script when an error occurs??
> 
Why does the tape rewind?  If you use the no-rewind tape driver, surely you can  
let each  one croak on its own.  Worst case is that one won't get done.

If you are really fussy, do an mt status, and detect the cartridge reset (Sense  
6) and exit if that happens.
From: jerry@watchman.sfc.sony.com (Jerry Scharf)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: sync. clocks (again)
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:59:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: watchman.1992Apr7.165949
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


get ntp from louie.udeledu. It is a internet standard for time syncing. It works
well, and there are a bunch of sites that will share their time sources.
 
-- 
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Advanced Video Technology Center  Sony America, San Jose, CA
email: jerry@sfc.sony.com	Phone (408) 944-4989
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: zuul@declips.GUN.de (Wolf-Agathon Schaly)
Subject: SYSVR4.0 Ver 3.0 Installquestions
Organization: declips, Duesseldorf, Germany
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 18:05:36 GMT

Hallo Administrator

If yesterday installad first time a ISC SYSVR4.0 Ver 3.0 for the following
Hardware
	
	i486-33 EISA 16 MB RAM
	adaptec 1740 (Rel T) (Standard Mode)
	Micropolis 1598
	WD8003 (Typ 41)
	WANGTEK 5150ES

My first problem was, the System crashes in the Streamerinstallationphase.
I reconfigured my EISA-System to every possible combination but the system
crashes everytime at the same phase.

After every test to install the system I removed the 1740 and plug in a
1542 and every runs fine :-)

After installation of the System I reinstalled the 1740 restartet the 
System, with the result that no SYSTEM was found :-( until I installed a 
floppy controller.

Now my question:
Did anybody have had the same Problems and have some fixes for me.

Please send a Cc-mail to zuul@declips.GUN.de

Thank you for helping 

ciao zuul@declips.GUN.de

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: hbowser@dvorak.amd.com (Horace Bowser)
Subject: nfs mounting from hp to sun
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 21:30:09 GMT

I'm attempting to mount file systems from an HP 9000/700 system
onto a Sun sparcStation and i keep getting the error:

	mount: access denied for auqis1:/users

On the HP (running HP-UX 8.07) i've put the /users directory in
the exports file, killed and restarted the mountd, the nfs daemons
are running and nothing seems to work.  Any ideas?  (There is no
exportfs on the HP).

Thanks for you help!

Horace
hbowser@auqis1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: tim@hssc.scarolina.edu (Tim White)
Subject: Help! Communications setup for a Wyse-50.
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:27:39 GMT


    Anyone got a manual or know how to set baud rate,parity
  for a Wyse-50?

    Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra)
Subject: Re: Password admin question
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: comp.unix.admin
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:41:56 GMT

In article <tr.702921111@samadams> tr@samadams.princeton.edu (Tom Reingold) writes:
>If someone knows the algorithm that "passgen" uses, he can guess what
>someone's password is.  While people often choose bad passwords, they
>can learn to choose good ones.  Programs cannot learn to choose good
>ones.  For example, if passgen uses the time of day to choose a random
>number and from that derives the password, a cracker only needs to know
>when the program was run to guess the password.

	Hmm. Intresting proposal but I haven't heard of anyone doing this.
I have heard of password generators based on the time of day, day of the
week, etc, but I don't know exactly how they are implemented. For instance,
if I select a password at 12:00:00 hours on Friday April 10, is that
same password going to show up every time my internal clock registers that
time (and/or day/date)? What will happen during the same day at 12:00:01 ?
different password perhaps? ANyway, the point is that the method you
propose for getting passwords based on time of the day may be a bit 
difficult to implement depending on the selection process.
	However, I do agree that I would rather pick the password myself
than have some program do it for me. People should be educated on how to
pick and maintain good passwords anyway. 
	My main point however, is that I would feel much more safe with
only one copy of the root password floating around then many separate 
ones.

-tms

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From: weeks@astroatc.UUCP (Pat Weeks)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Backup Script
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: weeks%astroatc.UUCP@uwvax (Patrick Weeks)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI

Hello there!  Take a look at the following script for a Sun.

#! /bin/sh
rsh -n airjordan /usr/adm/weekly.bck
rsh -n forman /usr/adm/weekly.bck
rsh -n leonard /usr/adm/weekly.bck
rsh -n mcenroe /usr/adm/weekly.bck
rsh -n tyson /usr/adm/weekly.bck
rsh -n magic /usr/adm/weekly.bck


	Our problem is that if an error occurs in the middle of processing,
the tape rewinds and we lose the good data at the beginning of the 2.3 gb tape


Are there any commands in the bourne shell that will force a break out of the 
script when an error occurs??


					Ghostwheel
					weeks%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
From: hoff@fasic5.fnal.gov (James R. Hoff)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Problems with C2 Security and Automount
Keywords: C2 Security, Automount
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:16:54 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab

Greetings all,
	I'm running SunOS 4.1.2 on 7 Sparc2s and 1 Sparc1+.  We're a rather
closely knit group of VLSI designers, so it is imperitive that there is
access to all user files for all users.  Consequently, we had been using 
the automounter.  Unfortunately, a hacker (cracker) broke into one of my 
systems and did enough damage that
	a) Paranoia has set in
	b) I have vowed to kill the bastard if I ever find him

	In a nutshell, we started using Sun's C2 Security, secure yp, etc.
Now our automounter is hanging.  Has anyone been through this before?  Is
there anything I need to do to make the automounter work again?  I'd rather
not hard mount every home directory if I don't have to.
	I should be more specific.  Automount executes just fine from the
rc.local script.  However, attempting to cd to an automounted directory
results in a "No such directory" error.  loggin into a machine that is not
your home machine results in you being dumped into the / directory with
a "No home directory" error.
	I appreciate any help you can give me.

				Jim Hoff
				hoff@fasic5.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: johnsond@newshub.sdsu.edu (Dwayne Johnson)
Subject: System Admin
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:44:10 GMT

Greetings,

   I'm in the process of teaching some folks the wonders (cough) of Unix
   systems administration.  Since we have a few dollars to spend on
   books, I'd like a few suggestions on what some of you thought were
   worth getting.  We have both System V and BSD systems.  Directions
   to additional on-net information would also be helpful.

   Thank you,
     Dwayne


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.windows.x
From: kozowski@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Building UNIX system V on a SUN SPARC
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:32:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Apr17.163222.17474
Organization: Network & Technical Services - OHSU

In article <92-04-063@comp.compilers> CERVERON%EVALUN11.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
writes:
>
>  I have the source code for building the UNIX System V / SPARC
>implementation / Release 4. I will try to build and run it on a SUN SPARC
>machine. My doubt is that in the 'Build Instructions' manual it is said:
>
>  "The source code product should be build on a non-DRS6000 computer only
>if your cross-compiler is funcionally equivalent to C Software development
>System (CSDS) Issue 5. Important features of the CSDS Issue 5 are
>  - draft-proposed ANSI C compatibility
>  - extensible and linking format (ELF)
>  - dynamic linking
>  The commands displayed in Fig must be available in your cross-compiler
>environment
>  compilation commands: cc, acomp, as, ld
>  code processor/generator commands: lex, m4, yacc
>  auxiliary build commands: nm, ar, tsort, lorder, lint,
>    install, make, strip, mkboot"
>
> And now, the questions:
>
>  1- Has anyone done this building process on a SUN SPARC machine?
>
>  2- Where can I get info on the CSDS? Who is its owner?
>
>  3- There is any compiler (free if possible) for the SUN SPARC
>equivalent to CSDS?
>
>  I will strongly thank any useful information
>  Please e-mail the answers (unless you consider it is public
>interest)
>
>  Vicente Cerveron
>  cerveron@vm.ci.uv.es
>[The CSDS is AT&T's C compiler package, available from the same places
>as SVR4.  So where did you get all the source code? -John]
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>{ima | spdcc | world}!iecc!compilers.  Meta-mail to compilers-request.
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They should have given you a tape with a "refrence binary" on it.  Load this
binary just like you would load SunOS (It'll nuke your disks first).  This
should be a limited, binary version of the Source Code that you have.  It
should have the C compiler that you need.  If you have any more ?'s feel free
to ask.  

BTW, I have NOT built SVR4 on a Sparc, but I have built it on a 3B2.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:31:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.090634.1065@lth.se> bengtl@maths.lth.se (Bengt Larsson) writes:
> Imagine Windows NT booting up (this in invented. I have no idea if it
> looks like this) with a login box pre-filled in with "user" for a user
> name. No password to begin with. There is a note that says "Press
> Enter to log in". This is understandable for anyone, and the system
> itself is protected from rogue programs during normal use. 

I see no reason why UNIX can't do the same thing. In fact, this is pretty
close to what System V does when it has you login as "setup" for the first
time.
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