From: dyer@marina.asd.sgi.com (Dyer Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.feminism
Subject: Re: Walk For Choice.
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:06:09 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Susan - In reply to your post.

d>THE PRO-CHOICE COALITION OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY (CA.)
d>WILL BE PUTTING ON THE FOLLOWING:
d>  *** Lot of stuff deleted.
d> Members listed: NOW being one.

who?>Y'know, they have an entire newsgroup specifically devoted to this sort
who?>of thing.  It's called "talk.abortion."  That's where this goes.

I did post it there. I also posted it in "alt.activism" and other 
newsgroups which people are both pro-choice and against it. I DID
NOT ASSUME feminists are pro-choice. I am on my second term as
a chair on the board of this group and have seen that a LARGE 
percentage of our members are feminists. I have also gone to a
lot of pro-choice events such as the march last spring in 
Washington D.C. and a LARGE percentage of the people who I spoke
to while there were feminists. I light of this I was trying to
reach out to people who would be interested and hoped I could 
find some in the readers of this newsgroup.

s>Speaking of talk.abortion, there are several people there who
s>would like to see your explanation for your claim that all
s>engineers and computer scientists are men.  Please drop back
s>in and let us know.

WHAT!!!! I never made ANY such claim!!! Nothing near it. As a
matter of fact, other than notice of "The Walk" and 1 post I 
think was on talk.abortion I have ONLY posted to rec.scuba.
The post I made to talk.abortion was flaming someone who used
Becky Bell as an example of abortions killing children. I would
be glad to discuss this with you, but I again say:

#1 I never wrote anything like this.

#2 This is not my opinion, not only do I disagree with this view,
   but I have often sought technical help from peers, some of
   whom are NOT men.

who?>Who *really* speaks for women?  NOW, with its 280000 members, 
who?>or the NWC, with 1.8 *million*?

Is this from you? I didn't understand? Also I am not familiar with
what letters NWC stands for?


s>NOW's members, at least, *know* that they are considered to
s>be members.  Do the members of the other group willingly
s>join?  Or is this another group who counts its members by
s>estimating the readership of its newsletter?

O.K. got me on this, *technically* a LOCAL chapter of NOW,
a LOCAL ACLU branch, etc... belong to our organization. We have
in the past named members in this manner and not had a complaint
from our members. We are not a NATIONAL organization, our name
even says so: "The Pro-Choice Coaliton of Santa Clara County"

YES our members are aware of being members. We ask for a member
representative from that organization to be identified as a
contact. We also have annual dues from our members. As far as
the question about the newsletter, a copy goes out to each
member organazation, as well as those who have a paid subscription.
Subscription to our newsletter does not entail membership. A
membership organization requests membership (no fees here) and
if accepted only pays annual dues. I think $60 is the cost.

We also do profit sharing with the "Walk For Choice" to try to
get money from the walk back into membership orginizations. Some
of them are not large enough to hold there own fund raising events.
All of the proceedings are public.

By the tone of your post, I get the impression you are a bit 
leery about our organization. I understand this and respect your 
views and would be happy to answer any questions you have.

Thanks, Dyer Crouch / dyer@marina.asd.sgi.com / (415) 390-1204