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From: osiris@crash.cts.com (James Lanaghan)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire the Masquerade
Keywords: RPG, Vampire, Masquerade
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:33:13 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

The reason we don't discuss Vampire the Masquerade on here is it has it's own
mail server discussion group, that talks about rules, chronicle ideas, and
up and coming products.  If you would like the address to subscribe to the
mail news group let me know and I will give it to you.
From: arachne@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: VAMPYRE PUBL. FAQ
Keywords: vampire, books, tapes, magazines
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 03:43:38 PST
Reply-To: arachne@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us


Well, here it is. Don't thank me, thank rather The Ghost With The Most.
This came to me unexpectedly via e-mail in one big ol piece.
 
From uucp Mon Nov  2 16:39:35 1992
>From ucsu.Colorado.EDU!cairnss  Mon Nov  2 16:39:32 1992 
From: The Ghost with the Most= <netcomsv.netcom.com!ucsu.Colorado.EDU!cairnss>
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To: cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us!arachne
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 16:05:17 MST
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From: dwalterm@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dave Waltermire)
Subject: Me too....
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:43:45 GMT

   I am sorry to jump on the band waggon, but I would also be interested in any physical, written or visual proof of vampyres.  Plus, I have always been 
interested in meeting one and possibly becoming one.  My school is Akron 
University and I commute.  Let's see.... 
--
David A Waltermire
r3daw@vax1.cc.uakron.edu
dwalterm@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Reply-To: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:22:25 GMT

Vampires are "evil" in the same sense that wolves,
lions, bears, and spiders are evil.  They "prey" 
(at least in some tales) on people.

On the other hand, we humans consider a species
more intelligent if it is farther in the food chain.
Thus, animals are more intelligent than plants,
presumably because animals feed on plants.  Within
animals, those who eat other animals (e. g. humans
and dogs) are more intelligent than insects and
molusks.

Using this frame, vampires should be considered a
more advanced species.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 7 Nov 1992 19:02:47 EST
From: We all earn our time in Hell <IO20557@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: vamp. music

You bunch of cheese eating romantic power-tools! Vampi/yres=death,mureder
predation, and immorality...you'd never last a minute out there you Anne
Rice wannabe's. Me...I'll just stick to my Misfits and Samhain collection
-Tc
From: kat@banach.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Other vampires?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:33:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: banach.wpi.edu
Keywords: Saint-Germain

In article <BxGrAB.4Ms@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tonya@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (lillie tonya l) writes:
>Is anyone out there interested in anything besides Anne Rice, Lestat or
>Dracula?  How about the vampire novels by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro?  and he
>her vampire characters: Saint-Germain, Madelaine or Olivia??

I'm not familiar with these characters, but perhaps you would like to elaborate
on them and start a discussion.  I'm open to new ideas as I'm sure many others
here are.

kat
 ***************************************************************************
      Christina Freeman                                 kat@wpi.wpi.edu
		"Was there not, from the first, more poison in
 			  your nature than in mine?" 
                           - _Rappaccini's Daughter_ 
			      Nathaniel Hawthorne
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From: jyaruss@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: WYREWOLVES
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:42:24 GMT

  In article <1992Nov8.015615.5109@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (The Ghost with the Most=) writes:
> 9210946@cuslm.ca (THERIAULT YANICK M.) writes:
> 
> 
>>	The thought of being a werewolf pleases me!  
> 
> That is quite wonderful, the thought of NOT talking about it
> in alt.VAMPYRES pleases me!
> 
> alt.horror, alt.horror, alt.horror, alt.horror, alt.horror
exut
	or some such.
> 
> -- 
> Undead, Undead Undead.
> cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
> 31V]D(%-A=F4@3W5R(%%U965N+@
From: v076r95v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Nature Boy)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Forever Knight question
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:44:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Recently I watched an episode of Forever Knight titled, "False
Witness".  It was the one when Nick had to actually go on trial to prosecute a
witness, that he lied against.  But, on the trial Nick actually admits the
truth.  Now, here is where the clincher came in.  After this scene they go to a
commercial.  When they come back, Nick is in the office and everyone is giving
him the silent treatment.  When I saw this episode for the first time, in was
in New York City.
	BUT, yesterday night, here in Buffalo, they replayed it on a Canadian
channel.  Everything was the same except after the trial scene and commercial,
they return to Nick talking to Janette.  They are having a conversation about
past lives and how they should leave.  Then, she asks him if he has seen
Lacroix lately.  Nick has a flashback about staking Lacroix in the heart and
watching him burn!  I NEVER remember this happening and have seen just about
every episode around.  Can someone explain to me WHEN Nick killed Lacroix or
explain what happened?  Thanks alot.
					PHOENIX 
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From: aw1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Andrew Wargo)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:11:29 GMT

Have any of you seen Vampire Hunter D, a Japanese anime cartoon?
what did you think, etc.?

--
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From: ahughes@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Fool)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:05:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.195600.12041@news.unomaha.edu> werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner) writes:
>melchar@west.darkside.com  writes:
>> > I didn't think vampires were considered a separate species, at least in
>> > traditional European folklore (I'm not familiar with other cultures' stories,
>> > I'm afraid. Anyone know of a good collection of _traditional_ vampire legends
>> > 
>> > 				The Fool
>> > 				    ;-)
>> 
>>      If the product which is _now_ a vampire was _originally_ what is 
>> referred to as a 'human being', then they are NOT a separate species.  At 
>> the absolute most, they would be considered as a 'sub-species'.
>>      The identifier for species is an inability to breed with those of 
>> other species --
>
>But, what if a chemical in the blood of a vampire (much of the info I am 
>familiar with has the new vampire drink from the original vampire) that alters
>the structure of the new hosts cells...Thus we have a new species which doesnt
>really "breed" by our standards...?

However, I don't think this is the traditional method of becoming a vampire.
I could be wrong here, but I believe that the reciprocal blood drinking is
a fairly recent addition to the myths. BTW, still curious about good
collections of vampire-type myths from different cultures.

				The Fool
				    ;-)
From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:40:43 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



iwerewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu just said :
>> Oh, you silly, silly people...How many times does it have to be said that
the average bloodsucker does NOT need to kill its victim.  Besides, exactly
how much blood would a vampire need in a night?

An avg Bio-Physical vampire doesn't ever hardley kill his victim, in fact
both the vampire and the victim are in total ectasy, also, when a vampire
feeds (any type of vampire!) it doesn't need to keep on feeding, there is
a point where a vampire can get overfull..

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From: bcohen@cad721.intel.com (Benjamin Cohen )
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Ann Rice Book Signing in SF Bay area
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:39:22 GMT
Organization: Corporate CAD, INTeL Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <879qTB1w165w@cyberden.uucp>, fortune7@cyberden.uucp writes:
|> Ann will be signing copies of her new book "The Tale of the Body Thief"
|> at Book Passage in Corte Madera (which is in Marin County, about 15 miles 
|> north of San Francisco) on Friday November 6th, and I think Saturday the 
|> 7th.  I have also heard that she has an upcoming signing in Berkeley at
|> Dark Carnival (not sure of the date).
|>         
|> I think it's not generally known, so it shouldn't be too crowded and 
|> insane.  I haven't heard word one about it by word of mouth.


Well, I was at the booksigning at Books, Inc. in Stanford Mall last night and
the wait was about an hour.  However, that event was well advertised.  They were
telling people about the other upcoming BA signings, and I expect some people to
come back.  A lot of people (myself included) were rather unprepared and didn't
have all of their books with them.  Also, I hadn't bought "The Tale of the Body
Thief" yet; I was planning on buying it there.  Unfortunately, I couldn't find a
First Edition printing left.  So, if you're planning on going to one of these and
plan on buying the book there, I would suggest going to another bookstore and
buying a First Edition to bring along.

- Ben

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From: conner@qucis.queensu.ca (Mike Conner)
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:46:26 GMT

Or you call pull a Highlander and keep changing your name.  And remember,
something you purchase today will probably be worth a fortune in 100 years.

-Mike
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From: drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III)
Subject: Re: Francis Ford Coppola's DRACULA
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:38:28 GMT

In article <BxK7un.608@acsu.buffalo.edu> v116qhth@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I'm not evil...I'm just good looking) writes:
>
>  I am estatic with joy, this new movie is opening here Friday!
>  I, for once, won't have anybody who has seen the movie telling me about it in
>  advance. I have to work so I am going to the Midnight Movie showing, what
>  could be more appropriate. The only thing that could ruin my night would
>  be if the movie sucks. 

Heh.
hahaha.
heeheeheehahaha.
ahem.
Nice pun, there.

>  To add to this, I am in the process of reading 
>  a copy of the original Bram Stoker novel. Excellent book.
>
>				ShadowSlayer


New sci-fi/fantasy book out, _Dark Sun Rising_.  Not specifically a
vampire novel, but close enuff.  Darn good read.  Don't remember the
author at the moment.

-- 
      ---=>   Charles Stewart (aka Scott) : drakonar@cs.montana.edu   <=---
	          "Oh oh.  Looks like we need another Timmie!"
			   For Dinosaurs fans only.
From: rgoldberg@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re:Vlad?
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:52:54 GMT
Organization: Clark University

Vlad the Impaler, aka Vlad Tepes, aka Dracula,  is one source of the Dracula 
story by Stoker and of Vampire legends in general.  He was a 14th or 15th 
century prince of Wallachia and got his nickname, Tepes (the impaler) for his 
winning diplomatioc style.  His father was Vlad Dracul, and Dracul meant both 
Dragon and Devil at that time.  Dracul was a knight in the Order of the 
Dragon, which fought the Turks.  It is not known which definition people were 
referring to when they nicknamed him Dracul.  Dracula means "Son of Dracul".  
For more info, read "The Vampire"  (or is it "Vampires") by Montague Summers 
or "In Search of Dracula" by McNally and Florescu.
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From: osiris@crash.cts.com (James Lanaghan)
Subject: Re: Vampire Music
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:52:20 GMT

In <1d998lINNcgf@bigboote.WPI.EDU> kat@banach.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion) writes:

>>   Hmmm, I remember Echo & The Bunnymen featuring some themes for the movie
>>   The Lost Boys (I liked it, BTW) which have probably something to do with
>>   vampyres :-)

>Really?  Sounds cool.  Does anyone know which album(s) these songs are on?

You could always check the Lost Boys sound track...
From: fortune7@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Ann Rice Book Signing in SF Bay area
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 23:26:42 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Ann will be signing copies of her new book "The Tale of the Body Thief"
at Book Passage in Corte Madera (which is in Marin County, about 15 miles 
north of San Francisco) on Friday November 6th, and I think Saturday the 
7th.  I have also heard that she has an upcoming signing in Berkeley at
Dark Carnival (not sure of the date).
        
I think it's not generally known, so it shouldn't be too crowded and 
insane.  I haven't heard word one about it by word of mouth.  The only 
reason I know about the signings is that my S.O. is a member of the Ann 
Rice fanclub, and receives the newsletter.

We have called Book Passage, and they have confirmed the event.

To find Book Passage, take the Lucky Drive exit off 101, and head west to 
Tamalpais Drive.  The bookstore is smack in the middle of the shopping 
center next to the Department of Motor Vehicles.  You might want to call 
ahead to confirm the time of the signing.

[-] You...you bloated EEDIOT!!! [-] Ren - Ren-n-Stimpy

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From: jordag@cary101.its.rpi.edu (Lord of the Vampyres)
Subject: Re: Other vampires?
Reply-To: jordag@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:27:08 GMT

Jack is cool enough Ive read most of P.N. Elrond's vampire files...
                                  
                                      VideoVamp
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From: ferret@paradox.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 09:53:19 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@paradox.engin.umich.edu


	I have something that tends to support the theory that not all vampires
are evil.  In honor of November 13 (and what it stands for) DC Comics has
released a graphic novella entitled "Batman and Dracula".  It is... interesting
 to say the least.  Glance at it see what you think of the ending.

Ken
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From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: Vampire, Vampyre, and Wooden Bullets
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:58:59 GMT

lesher@coral.bucknell.edu  writes:
> In article <Bx92tB.3EM@cs.bham.ac.uk> ard@cs.bham.ac.uk (Antoni Diller) writes:
> > [regarding "vampire" as mythical beast and "vampYre" as a (often
> > deranged) human who drinks blood
> 
> >I haven't looked it up in a historiacl dictionary, but I'd be very surprised
> >if that were true.  `Vampyre' is just an old-fashioned way of spelling
> >`vampire'; and another term used a lot is `nosferatu'; furthermore, `the
> >undead' is also used.
> 
> This is the way I have always understod it:
> 
> Middle	vampyre = strange (possibly possessed) person who drinks the
> Ages-   blood of humans and to whom unknown diseases are
>         of often attributed.  If real vampires exist, they
>         are lumped into this category.
> 
> <vampire legend continues and gets better and better with each retelling>
> 
> Now:    Vampire is either a Lugosi-ish guy who inhabits an old castle
> in the Old World, or an Ann Rice modernized version, etc.  In other
> words, a Hollywood-ized vampire, widely believed to be totally
> fictional.
> 
> To get away from the fictional pretenses, when someone wants to write
> of a human who (for whatever reason) drinks blood, they write "vampyre".
> But this may be all semantics.
> 
  It may be...As I'm sure all of us know; words take on new meanings and even 
new spellings as our respective cultures "progress."  For example, the word
"wench" used to be a serving girl, now it is virtualy synanamous with the word
"bitch (used in reference to a bad tempered woman)".  Just my two pints worth.
-- 
Never trust the obvious.-- "This," I said pleasantly, "is known as getting it 
on." Charlie Decker, from Stephen King's "Rage"-- "Oh, shit!" anon. wise man--
ALBATROSS!-- It's amazing what you can do, if you don't know you can't do it.
"Denn die Toten reiten schnell." passanger from Bram Stoker's "Dracula"-------
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From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Gifs and vamps
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:57:27 GMT

		2 questions...
		1) To the person who posted the 12-part GIF... usually it's a
lot more polite to simply say that you have the GIF and then people can e-mail
you privately for it, or to put it on an FTP site. Not everyone has the program
to read a GIF, and certainly not everyone wqants something that huge flooding
their account from out of nowhere. =)
		2) Where did all the people who say they knew/were "real"
vampires go??? =( For a little while I thought there was some hope... *sigh*


						--Chris-- 
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From: slmxx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: what is this group? 
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:32:16 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

So....  what is the purpose of this news group?  I myself was just carousing in
boredome and found the topic vampyre, so here I am writting this rather than
doing my research on paleo climateology and little oxygen isotopes.  Oh well...
Back to my original query, what is this?  I personally have an interest in
"vampyre" lore, and have been facinated by the various depictions of the
Vampyric genre in film, fantasy literature, and fantasy wargames like Dungeons
& Dragons or Warhammer.  I personally find the Vampyres of Ms. Rice to be the
most believable in their personalities, physiology etc...  But, I do think
Lestat lapses too often into self glorification (a legend in his own mind) and
self pitty. I believe the child vampyre Lestat meets in paris is a more
appealing vampyre just because of his Dark Nature...& drive for self
preservation, Lestat doesn't even know if he wants to live half the time...  
Well, enough of this,  Has anyone read Rices' book on wiches?  Is it worth
reading?  I also heard somthing about a Rice book called the erotic tales of
sleeping beauty or somthing rather...  is it any good and do I have the correct
title?  So long for now...  back to isotopes

						Board AT USU,
						isotope wizard
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From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:13:49 GMT

You people are forgetting that the legendary Dracula was indeed active during
the daytime...just not as powerful.

-- 
Never trust the obvious.-- "This," I said pleasantly, "is known as getting it 
on." Charlie Decker, from Stephen King's "Rage"-- "Oh, shit!" anon. wise man--
ALBATROSS!-- It's amazing what you can do, if you don't know you can't do it.
"Denn die Toten reiten schnell." passanger from Bram Stoker's "Dracula"-------
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 20:03:28 EST
From: <THN107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire, Vampyre, and Wooden Bullets

>        As for the movie Sundown:  The Vampire in Retreat, I especially
>enjoyed the idea of wooden bullets to kill vampires (no way someone`s going to
>remove all those splinters from the heart).  Of course, those of us in CHILL
>also have another idea:  take an ordinary shotgun shell and fill it with tiny,
>silver, blessed crosses.  That will annoy a vampire to no end!

I suggest you watch 'Subspecies'.  In this movie, a shell from a shotgun is
filled with tiny wooden rosary beads.  Oh...if a vampire could mate with a
sorceress or a mortal, what would the children be?

-T
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From: lenny@iti.gov.sg (Lenny Lim Kiong Peng)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:39:36 GMT

In article <ufaustus.721002910@mcl> ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark Bergem) writes:
> I wounder who it was that said Vampires have to be evil?

Well, there's an issue of Batman where he got turned into a vampire by a
"good" vampire. I can't remember the issue, but its one of those one book
kinda thing (in hardcover) and I can find out if there's anybody interested.

I'm sure this is not the sole example, and there must be quite a few films
and books on "good" vampires. Oh yes! How could I have forgotten! There's
Vampire Princess Miyu, a Japanese cartoon (anime).


Kiong Peng
From: harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu (Zak)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Aes Sedai
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:36:10 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1d9qc4INN1rs@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>
>Right.  The "Saidar", 

Actually, Saidin is the male tainted half...

>if I remember correctly, was tainted when the
>men and women wielders of the magic locked away the Dark One.  The
>first book is entitled Eye of the World, the second The Great Hunt.
>
>I've heard that there's a third, but I've not found nor read it.
>Anyone know?

Geeze...there's the fourth out now!

book 3 = The Dragon Reborn
book 4 = The Shadow Rising

....excellent

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