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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DecNet RPC and Xwindows
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:13:07 GMT
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <1247@esl.ESL.COM>, jsd@esl.com (Jeff Dalton) writes:
|>
|>I'm trying to start an Xwindows process running on a remote node and
|>have it displayed on my local node.  The catch is that I don't want to
|>log into the remote node to start the process.  I'm attempting to use
|>the DecNet Remote Command Execution facility, you know... the stuff that
|>looks like the following:
|>
|>  type RMT_NODE::"username password":"task=FILE.COM"
|>
|>I've checked out the commands and everything works fine,  I put my local
|>node name in the command file and the remote node reads the file and sets
|>the display to my local node.  The problem is that when I go to run an X
|>application (ie. the calculator or clock) I get an "unknown" fatal error -
|>something like "NONAME-F-NOMSG, Error number 303030212".  That's not the
|>number, but it means about the same to me.

What you are trying ought to work.  You must make sure that RMT_NODE, the
node where the DECnet task is running, is authorized to the Session Manager
to display to your local node's session (see the Security menu on the
Session Manager).

Without knowing the contents of your FILE.COM and the exact error message
number, I can't help you any further.

--PSW
From: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Trouble calling $GETQUI system service from VAX C...
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:10:57 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, London, UK.

In article <01GNSF2G70CG8WXIPR@MARICOPA.EDU>, shoecraf@mc.bitnet (Steve Shoecraft) writes:
|>     I am having trouble calling the $GETQUI system service from VAX C. I have
|> set everything up right(I think), gotten success status' returned, etc.,
|> but nothing is returned...

You need to check the iosb in addition to the value returned by the
function. Your second GETQUIW call is failing with a JBC error (missing
required parameter). You must specify a QUI$_SEARCH_NAME. Provide the same
value you are providing for QUI$_QUEUE_NAME. The code then works although
you may still get back a null name if you have no privilege to see it.
-- 
 Phone: +44 71 528 8282  E-mail: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk
 Anything is a cause for sorrow that my mind or body has made
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: whitfill@heechee.meediv.lanl.gov (Jim Whitfill - Los Alamos)
Subject: Re: VMS V5.5-1 question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, Mech. and Elec. Eng
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:34:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.133605.957@beckman.com>, dsroberts@beckman.com writes...
>In article <11AUG199212565288@heechee.meediv.lanl.gov>, whitfill@heechee.meediv.lanl.gov (Jim Whitfill - Los Alamos) writes:
>> I just checked DSNlink for the above patches. 0193, 0511 and 0552 are not
>> known to the patch distribution SW and 1001 is stated to be "Under Review and
>> not available"
>> 
>> How did you get these patches????
>> 
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Jim A. Whitfill    Mechanical & Electronic Eng. Division     (505) 667-9282
>> whitfill@meediv.lanl.gov       		     Los Alamos National Laboratory
> 
>I don't know about 0552, but we were able to get 0193, 0511 and 1001 via
>DSNlink.  Sounds like 1001 may have changed though.
> 
>-- 
>   Don Roberts                   Internet:  don@beckman.com
>   Beckman Instruments, Inc.     Phone:     714/961-3029
>   2500 Harbor Bl. Mailstop X-12 FAX:       714/961-3351
>   Fullerton, CA  92634          Disclaimer:  Blame me, not Beckman.
>   People are as happy as they decide to be - A. Lincoln


The problem was I was giving 0193, 0511 and 0522 as the search strings for the
VTX patch option. It wants 193, 511 and 522. The response I got from my query
of DSNlink was that DEC is trying to standardize on the keys for key searches
in DSN VTX patch retrieval.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim A. Whitfill    Mechanical & Electronic Eng. Division     (505) 667-9282
whitfill@meediv.lanl.gov       		     Los Alamos National Laboratory
From: jem7049@nobs.boeing.com (Joe Meadows (952-0469))
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: SET TRANSPORT command in VMS MAIL
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:04:05 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>For the curious (and appropriately privileged, of course), appended below is
>a modified version of Alan Zirkle's MAILUAF.COM which can manipulate the
>transport field.  (I also cleaned it up a bit.)
>
>(The default transport field filled in a whole at record type 7.  Holes remain
>for record types 6 and 10 through 12 - and of course there could be record
>types above 13, the form name.  So, who's going to look at the appropriate
>sources and fill those in?  Also, the FLAGS field should be decoded....)


For those of you wanting to do the same thing, but in a supported fashion, you 
can get my MAILUAF instead, which provides similar functionality using the 
callable mail interface. It's available from a few sources, including the
fileserver VMSSERV@FHCRCVAX.bitnet [or VMSSERV@spock.fhcrc.org], by sending a
one line message of "SEND MAIL.PACKAGE".

Cheers,
Joe Meadows	(ignore the from address above!)
meadowsj@boeing.com or joe@kirk.fhcrc.org or j.meadows@tardis.boeing.com, etc.

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: matts@gemini.ldc.lu.se (Matts Kallioniemi)
Subject: Re: get first name
Reply-To: matts@gemini.ldc.lu.se
Organization: Lund University Sweden
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:47:33 GMT

In article <0CF1FE6CDABFC08B97@sb.hhs.dk>, ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes:
>You can not get the owner-fiels from SYSUAF by DCL (not until DEC implements
>F$GETUAI !).

You sure about that?

$ if p1 .eqs. "" then p1 = f$getjpi(0,"username")
$ say := write sys$output
$ prv = f$setprv("sysprv")
$ open/read/share uaf 'f$parse("sysuaf","sys$system:.dat")
$ prv = f$setprv(prv)
$ read/key=&p1/error=x uaf rec
$ close uaf
$ say f$fao("Hello !AC!!",f$cvui(32,32,f$fao("!AD",8,rec))+84)
$ say f$fao("Your set password on !%D",f$cvui(32,32,f$fao("!AD",8,rec))+380)
$ exit
$x:
$ status = $status
$ close uaf
$ exit status
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: cordelkj@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Kevin John Cordell)
Subject: Re: Installing images?
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:21:46 GMT

In article <21AUG199209240092@mivax.mc.duke.edu> jim@mivax.mc.duke.edu (James D Dryfoos - Systems) writes:
>Can one install any image (.exe)?  How do you decide which options
>are needed (i.e.  /open/share/header ...).  What kind of problems
>can one run into?
>
>Thanks in advance, 
>
>Jim 
>

Basically as it states in the Install section of the VMS manuals, you
would want to install an image for the following reasons:

Conserve memory - all users of the image share the code
Improve system performance - files are open by ID and not by name
    eliminating directory operations.
Make programs available that require enchance privs that users do not
need.


I judge by the number of users using the program and the amount of
memory that I have available.  I am running several installed images.

kevin
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin J. Cordell
Cordelkj@ucunix.san.uc.edu
From: kaplan@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (RayK)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS manuals set for sale
Keywords: VMS, Manuals
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Cross post from misc.forsale.computers

VMS V5.5 "grey wall" manual set for sale.  Most binders unused
- still sealed in plastic - best offer - current list = approx $2K
FOB Tucson, AZ  (you pay freight).

Ray Kaplan
P.O. Box 42650
Tucson, AZ  85733
(602) 323-4606 (ans serv)
(602) 791-3325 (FAX)

kaplan@mis.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: coleve@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: VMS-Sun connectivity
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:29:17 GMT

In article <1140@racerx.bridge.COM>, ken@Bridge.COM (Ken Hardy) writes:
> 
> I'm trying to bridge the huge void between our SunOS and VMS users.
> 
> We've got (I'm told) Multinet TCP/IP on one of the Vaxen that lets us
> rlogin and ftp between environments, and an NFS server on the Vax that
> lets us mount VMS directories on the Suns ("VMS to Ultrix Connection"
> software).

CONFUSION HERE.... VMS to Ultrix Connection (ucx) is a DEC product which
competes with Multinet.  

> 
> What I don't know how to do is to get e-mail and news between
> environments; it's not included in the TCP/IP networking package.  The
> vaxes are running VMS mail or whatever it is that comes by default
> (*not* All-in-One).  The Suns, of course, consume and generate
> RFC822-compliant mail, and use SMTP.
> 
> 1) Are there any bridging software packages that run on VMS that would
>    use SMTP to talk to the Suns' sendmail and whatever is necessary on
>    the VMS side?  Is it even possible?
> 
If you DO have Multinet, the SMTP mailer is included.  If you have UCX,
You need to get an SMTP mailer such as MX or PMDF.
MX is free. PMDF is a commercial product & is very powerful.

> 2) Where are there any NNTP packages for VMS?  I've got news coming
>    into a Sun with UUCP, and available from there via NNTP.  I need a
>    VMS Multinet NNTP client and user-interface software.  What about
>    VMS/VNEWS, and where can I find it?
> 
Most VMS sites use ANU news.  I had a copy of VMS/vnews, but I hated it...
not being used to the "unix style" of operation. Look around, your users will
probably love it.

> I've been watching applicable groups for quite some time, and have not
> seen these issues discussed.  If it's a FAQ, it's not frequently enough
> for me ;->
> 
look in:
  news.software.anu-news
  vmsnet.mail.mx
  vmsnet.mail.ucx
  vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
  vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx
-- 
-- Vern Cole -- Systems Manager -- Utah Valley Community College --
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu (R Eldridge, VMS FOREVER)
Subject: Re: RF35 problems
Reply-To: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:47:55 GMT

In article <6044@npri6.npri.com>,
richard@npri6.npri.com (Richard Head) writes:
>Anyone that has attempted to order an RF35 recently knows there is a
>120 day lead time for this disk drive.  My salesperson attempted to 
>explain this by saying Digital was "integrating new technology into the
>drive", but the reality is the RF35 has serious reliability problems.
>I know sites that are experiencing RF35 nightmares right now.
>
>If you're ordering a disk, I strongly advise you consider a disk other
>than the RF35 or RF352.
>
i have 12 RF35's on my system. i've only had them for a week now, but have
had no problems what so ever. they are very, very fast drives.

can you detail what the 'serious reliability problems' are? generalized
statements like that don't mean anything, unless you follow up with details.

rod eldridge
vms systems support      gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
iowa state university    gvrod@isuvax.bitnet    
(515) 294-7498           fax: (515) 294-1717
From: SYSTEM_JM@UNODE2.NSWC.NAVY.MIL ("SYSTEM SUPPORT")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: SHOW PROCESS SWAPPER
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:26:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Hi,

Yikes! I'm sure there's an easy answer for this one!
How come the command "$SHOW PROCESS <process-name>" works on our standalone
system, but not on our cluster?  For example: $ SHOW PROCESS SWAPPER
will work on the standalone, but I get a "non-existent process" error
on the cluster. And yes, the process does exist.  Hmmm...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Matthews
Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division
Dahlgren, VA
or: SYSTEM_JM%UNODE2@RELAY.NSWC.NAVY.MIL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: VAXStation screens with ghost DECWindows images
Reply-To: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:40:29 GMT


In article <7AUG199215572463@seqvax.caltech.edu>, mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu (David Mathog) writes:
|>
|>I've got two VAXStations (3100 and 2000) running DECwindows.  Both have this
|>problem: the DECwindow login screen remains on the monitor if it is up when the
|>cpu is halted or the DECWindows processes stopped.
|>
|>Anybody know the commands to clear the screen from the ">>>" prompt and from
|>VMS?
--

In general, the "Unjam" and "Init" console commands will put the machine
back into its power-on state.    However, after issuing either of these 
commands, you can no longer "continue" after depositing things into system
registers.



William M. Jackson
Workstation Product Marketing Manager
Workstation Engineering
Digital Equipment Corporation
146 Main Street
Maynard, MA 01754

Mail:	Jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to obtain X button press info from character cell appli
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 18:46:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

James (I think) Wilkinson (jwilkinson@hmcvax.claremont.edu) writes:

>How does one receive notification of and information relating to a pointing
>device button press event within a DECterm?  From a character cell oriented
>application, I'd like to translate such an event to the appropriate character
>cell, much as EVE is capable of doing.

This may or may not be a definitive answer.  I have noticed that EVE responds
to mouse-button clicks for cursor positioning even in a "LAT Terminal Window,"
on my VT1200, which is NOT part of a DECwindows session.  I have ascertained 
that EVE accomplishes this feat by understanding an escape sequence generated
by the VT1200 when the mouse button is pressed.  My intuition tells me that 
in a DECterm window, which like my LAT Terminal Window, "acts like a non-
DECwindows terminal," probably operates the same way: i.e., the DECterm 
emulator probably generates the same escape sequence(s).

I am not at work as I write this, so cannot look up and tell you the specific
escape sequences involved; drop me some e-mail and remind me -- and I'll look
them up and post them -- if you can't find them in any of YOUR manuals.

Chris Chiesa
   Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Using VAXstation as an Xterminal
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:51:42 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I had a VAXstation 2000 for which I did something very similar.  For a long 
time, it was part of our main cluster.  The only thing I ran on it locally was 
the session manager.  Everything else I ran remotely using command procedures we 
created that would execute any specified DECwindows client on a remote node, 
with the display set to the 2000.

Now, however, I've found a much better way.  I use the VAX ELN Window Server 
software (EWS) on my 2000.  It turns the VS2000 into a VT1300-class window 
terminal.  It costs some, but it works GREAT!  DEC just released a version that 
supports the VS4000 systems.  If you can afford about $600 for the license 
(QL-376Ax-xx) and about $300 for the media (QA-YWRAA-HM), you should get it.

-----------------------------+--------------------------------
 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
-----------------------------+--------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jogl@numenor.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Subject: please do NOT flame, BUT: are there more GAMES <<<
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:07:16 GMT



hi,
 
o.k. i know: VMS does NOT run on a NINTENDO ;-) but:

i'm sysop of a LAVC and some uses have asked for some
_G_A_M_E_S_, because they have to spend lot of time in front
of a station, while a simulation is processing (about 1h).

we do have PACMAN, TETRIS and X-TANK.
so, my question ist:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ does anyone know WHICH games are available for VAX/VMS ~ 
~ (DEC-Windows) and WHERE can i find it (ftp)?           ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-- 
  ___             ____________________________________
 /  /  _____     !  jogl@tolkien.imsd.rwth-aachen.de  !
 __/__/_/ Gl     ! Inst. f. Med. Stat. & Doku. (IMSD) !
/_/              !___Aachen__Germany__Europe__Earth___!
From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Undocumented MAIL qualifier
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:05:02 GMT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison

In a previous article, art@cyclone.MITRE.org (Arthur T. McClinton) wrote:

>Note that EXTRACT/FOREIGN extracts a file with WORLD:RWED privileges!     

Patch CSC #35 fixes this.


Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Number of users logged on a cluster member
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:08:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Arne Vajhxj, ARNE@KO.HHS.DK, wrote:

>> Is there a way to extract the number of users currently logged on a cluster
>> member from a DCL script (The number given by a show user command) ?
>> I apologize if this is a trivial question, but I was not able to find it 
>> among the lexicals.
>
>You could try:
>
>$ SYS$GW_IJOBCNT=%X800044C0
>$ ijob=f$cvui(0,16,f$fao("!AD",4,SYS$GW_IJOBCNT))
>$ write sys$output ijob," Interactive jobs"
>$ exit
>
>It will show the number og interactive jobs on the current node.

If you put the above code into a file, called, say SHOWUSERS.COM, you could:

  $ SET PROCESS/PRIVILEGES=OPER
  $ MCR SYSMAN
  SYSMAN> SET ENVIRONMENT/CLUSTER
  SYSMAN> DO @SHOWUSERS

or submit the code to a batch queue on each node, wait until all of them
finished running, then parse the output (which was one way of doing the 
equivelent of SHOW USERS/FULL on a pre-VMS V5.2 cluster if you didn't have 
OPER to use SYSMAN).

-Dan Wing, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU or WING_D@UCOLMCC.BITNET (DGW11)
 Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver
From: n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Barry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Using VAXstation as an Xterminal
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:06:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug19.180655.2334
Organization: Western Washington University

We have VAXstation 4000 VLC's.  They are diskless and have 8 megs
of memory.  The workstations' file server is a VAX 4000-500 with 64 megs.
Since memory is quite low, we would like to use the VAXstations
as bare Xterminals.  I know we can sign onto the 4000-500
and do a SET DISPLAY/CREATE/NODE=xxxx; But that is really
cumbersome.  Is there an easier way?  Is there a way
to run the session manager and window manger on the 4000-500
and pipe the output to the workstation, all without ever
having to bootup the workstation?

(We are running DECwindows-Motif v1.1 if that makes any
difference)

-BarryB
 n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu
From: lbmoore@tchden.UUCP ("Louis B. Moore")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: DECW => DECW Motif
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:24:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


>I'm about to install DECW Motif in our MI-cluster and I'd really
>appreciate any comments or ideas about the migration from DECW
>to DECW Motif.

Make sure you have a Motif license on *EVERY* node on which you want
to run applications (not just the display nodes).

 Louis B. Moore                      Internet: tchden!lbmoore@csn.org
 Systems Programmer                  Phone:    +1 303 837 2513
 The Children's Hospital of Denver   Denver, Colorado USA 80218
                   
 Systems Programmers should never try to explain what they do for a living.
From: soapy@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Soapy Phan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: get first name
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:12:20 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

oh, thanks a great lot for the few lines code....  really appreciated.

yours, soapy

soapy@northeastern.edu
soapy@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu
soapy@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu
From: SYSTEMM@FRED.ALHRG.WPAFB.AF.MIL (System Manager Wuest)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS version of UN*X uncompress?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:10:41 GMT
Organization: The Internet


   I've FTP'd some files from a UN*X machine that have been "compressed".
   Not TARed, nor ARC'd, just native mode UN*X COMPRESSED.  Is there 
   a VAX/VMS version that will UNCOMPRESS these files to ASCII text?
   Where can I get such an animal?

   Thanks,   Mike

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From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Is there a ntp client for UCX?
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:46:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: indyvax.1992Aug14.124611.153

In article <1992Aug13.092934.9091@rulway.LeidenUniv.nl>, prins@rulway.LeidenUniv.nl (Ryko Prins) writes:
> Does someone know if there is somewhere a ntp (the internet network time protocol) client for VMS? I need to get a reliable time source for my DTS
> server. On my unix machines I use ntp to synchronize the time. It seems the most ideal way to get the right time for my VMS system would be to have a ntp client running on that system..

You need to be careful here.  DECdns breaks the SYS$SETIME service (by design). 
If your NTP client ever tries to use SYS$SETIME (to adjust for a *large*
discrepancy between host time and UTC, for example), be sure it can recover
gracefully when the call fails.

I've been looking at doing similar things here, and the only safe scheme I've
come up with so far is to:

o	run Wollongong's NTP client on one host

o	run DECdns elsewhere

o	run a time provider interface on the DECdns servers, which uses
	the NTP client host as its external time provider (via DECnet).

No, the code for the last is not quite working yet.
-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead Analyst/Programmer    +1 317 274 0749   [@disclaimer@]
Internet:  IMHW400@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU     BITNET:  IMHW400@INDYVAX
Celebrate freedom:  read a banned newsgroup.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: venard@bms.com
Subject: In search of a tape management system
Reply-To: venard@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:38:26 GMT

Howdy,

We are undertaking an evaluation of Tape Management Systems. We currently know
of the following vendors and products: 

	Vendor				Product
	~~~~~~				~~~~~~~
	Computer Associates		CA-1
	Digital Equipment Corporation	SLS
	Micro Technology		VMM
	RAXCO				TapeControl
	Software Partners		TAPESYS
	UIS				UIS-MEDIA

Anyone know of any other commercial products that might be worthwhile to 
consider? Anyone have a strong opinion for or against any of the above? I will 
summarize to the net (STTN) if I get sufficient responses.

Thanks,

-- Robert

================================================================================
Robert Venard, VAX System Manager
Bristol-Myers Squibb, Princeton, New Jersey
Phone:  (609) 252-6144	Internet:  VENARD@BMS.COM
================================================================================