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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: It was McCoy Dammit 
Summary: Used to be Scotty on TNG season 6 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:54:01 GMT

In article <5792@ucru2.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>In article <92211.064015U16028@uicvm.uic.edu> U16028@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>
>I thought that the admiral was supposed to be Dr. McCoy.  I also read in an
>earlier post that the name was never mentioned, thus it could be anyone.  But
>I would think that it would be Dr. McCoy because he had the same personality.

I am sick of everyone questioning the fact that that was McCoy in EaF.  Who
else would it be?  The actor was Deforest Kelley and there is NO doubt that
was McCoy.  Remember what he said about Data and Vulcans?  How about his 
comment about the ship and treating her like a lady.  Why don't we all stop
discussing stupid stuff like this and the sexiest character and start 
posting good stuff like the Top 10 or a timeline.  How about substantiated
rumors.  Damn, Man, Fido Net has better discussions than you people.  I
just can't beat the amount that is here.  Come on- pick it up people.

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From: wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (WBRS-FM 100.1, Waltham MA USA)
Subject: ST: TNG vs LA-LAW
Reply-To: wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:13:29 GMT


Hi folks,
	OK- this has been driving me nuts for a while, please help.  Why are
there so many overlaps between the actors from Star Trek on LA-LAW and vice-
versa?  I started out thinking it was a coincidence, but it has become way too
numerous for that. Here are all the ones that I have caught.

-Diana Muldour(Pulasky) also played Rosalind Shays for a few seasons.
-Corbin Bernsen(Arnie Becker) played a member of the Q contingent.
-John Delancie(Q) played a sleezo criminal for one episode of LA LAW
-Gates McFadden(Dr. Crusher) played a perfume Co. owner who was suing a partner.
-The woman who plays Vasch on ST:TNG was Arnie's wife Corin for a season or two.
-The guy who tried to kill Zoe in a recent episode of LA LAW I hear was in TNG.

There are problably more- if you can think of any, or if you have any idea why
there is such overlap(same casting Co., fluke, one casting agent loves the other
show?) Please help me figure this out?
				-KT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: gordonb@mcil.comm.mot.com (Gordon Berkley)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine?
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:16:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.040117.17662@mits.mdata.fi>, lasse@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Reinikainen) writes:
|> >(Over here in germany, we're at the a** of the world, we're in the middle
|> >of 3rd saison ST:TNG ==:( ) 
|> 
|> Here in Finlad we are in the beginning of the 3rd season...   :(
 
You mean there's something after season 2 ???!!!  :-()

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: bantolph@carina.unm.edu (Bard's are the Best)
Subject: Where are all the cool aliens?
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 18:32:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	When I first heard that STNG was going to be made and it
was going to have a pretty large budget I was eagerly anticipating
seeing tons of cool looking aliens. I was sure that ST ships were
going to have lots of strange beings in addition to the human 
complement. Visions of rooms full of things a-la Star Wars bars like at
Mos Eisley spaceport.

	I have been bitterly dissapointed. About the only type of alien
ever encountered is a humainoid with some wrikles or a birthmark on its
face. Of course there have been a few exceptions, but on the whole the
only thing on the show is humans.

	The ST movies had some neat aliens on them and I was hoping that
STNG would be something like that. But as time in the STNG saga goes on
the freqency of non-humanlike aliens is decreasing. 

   				"I may be a ST nerd, but at least I
					don't watch Dr. Who"
							- the Bantirs

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jdcurtis@cs.washington.edu (Janet Denise Curtis)
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:05:50 GMT


>In a previous article, learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) says:
>
>>Here's an item of interest for people wondering where the names come  from
>>for Star Trek characters.
>>
>>We all (or many of us, at least) have heard about Jordi LaForge, the 
>>disabled Star Trek fan for whom Geordi LaForge is named.  And many of us
>>also have heard that Jean-Luc Picard is named, in part, after Jean Picard,
>>a French aviationist.  And of course Wesley was named after Wesley Eugene
>>Roddenberry.
>>
>>Well, here's something else to add to the trivia:
>>
>>pulaski: a single-bit aze with an adze-shaped hoe extending from the back
>>
>>(Courtesy of Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary)
>>
>>I don't know if it's signficant, but it struck me as interesting to find
>>out that "pulaski" is actually a word and not just a name.
>>
>>Add that to other useless name trivia about the origins of names like
>>"Hikaru" (means the Shining One, see Vonda Mackintyre's _Entropy Effect_
>>for more info.), "Mr Atoz" ("A to Z," appropriate for a librarian) and
>>N'gilam ("Malign" backwards).
>>
>>
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:32:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

>>7) Scotty bumping his head on the bulkhead. Gee, chuckle the clown in the
>>  23rd century.
>>
>>yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)

 >No, just didn't watch where he was going.  And it was funny! :-)
 >
 >becker@edwards-vax.af.mil

it might possibly have been faintly humorous during the movie . . .
if they hadn't plugged it over and over again in the previews and
television commercials.  stupid asinine idiot moron PR people
do _not_ understand that it's not funny if you know it's going to happen.

>>At the start of the movie, they make 
>>a really big deal about the ship not in working order (even the recorder is
>>not working right). But after the ship leaves the dock, there was no 
>>mention of it anymore. Everything seems to work fine except the transporter,

 >Maybe not vocally mentioned but you see it throughout different scenes that
 >things are not working properly.

"not vocally mentioned"??  how else can you "mention" something?

ok
dpm
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,mit.bboard,rec.arts.startrek,ne.wanted
From: richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun)
Subject: Re: WANTED : ST: TNG tapes
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:01:07 GMT
Organization: Kronos Inc. / Waltham, MA
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc,ne.politics
Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of Kronos Inc.

neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>Try your local Tower Records. I'm sure they would be delighted to ** SELL **
>you them, as opposed to publically requesting a bootleg source.

In defense of the original poster, I want to point out that the Supreme
Court has ruled that tapes made from broadcast television for personal use
are legal and not considered "bootleg".

Passing them around for token sums of money, as offered by the poster,
probably still falls within the domain of "personal use" though I suspect
that this has yet to be tested in a court of law.  Until they've actually
changed hands, though, they are clearly not bootleg copies.

The record industry howled when cassette tapes made possible for the
first time cheap, high-fidelity home reproduction of commercial
recordings.  Rather than decimating the industry, this medium yielded
huge profits for it.  Think twice when Hollywood starts to howl about
the evils of writable media.

-rich
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mehr@oskar.uchicago.edu (David Mehringer)
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.181759.18895@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA]) writes:
>theresa@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (Theresa Vaughan) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul23.001316.19935@beaver.cs.washington.edu> jdcurtis@cs.washington.edu (Janet Denise Curtis) writes:
>>>I think "picard" refers to a province in France.
>>>
>>>
>>   As in Picardie? Interesting idea. Anybody know where they got
>>Spock from? Or for that matter, the other TOS character names?
>
>What about Dr. Spock the child psychologist?
>
I believe that GR said that he didn't know there was a Dr. Spock until
after the fictional Spock had been named.

>Chekov no doubt from Chehkov (or however the russians spell it) - their
>famous author/playright (?)
>
>Scotty coz he is scottish no doubt
>
>any others?
>
>-richard
>
Uhura --> uhuru, which means freedom in Swahili (sp?)


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Observatory, Socorro, NM    |
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:18:53 EDT
From: Dave Shaffer <DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Captain Christopher Pike Actor?

In article <1992Jul30.190015.1@husky1.stmarys.ca>, grd4016@husky1.stmarys.ca
says:
>
>Could anyone please tell me the name of the actor who played
>Captain Christopher Pike on the orignal pilot for Star Trek.
>Thanks in Advance, Susan
>                   #####


Jeffrey Hunter. And the blond female guest star was *Susan* Oliver.
From: jwelnak@xraylith.wisc.edu (John Welnak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: yet another .gif request
Summary: fof wants marina sirtis .gifs
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:48:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison

A friend of a friend, FOF, (really!) asked me if i still had those
marina sirtis .gif files. i told him i saw it posted on the net
a while back. he looked disappointed. i told him i would request
it on the net. so here i am.

could anyone tell me where i could get a hold of them? i seem to
remember that there was an ftp site somewhere. please e-mail
your response

thanx in advance!

-jtW
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM (Peter Taylor)
Subject: Up the Long Ladder (was Re: "Royale" is a great episode.  NOT!!)
Reply-To: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:24:58 GMT


mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) writes:
> 
>   BTW, I thought "Up the Long Ladder" was loads of fun.  The story wasn't
>   so brilliant at all, but the humor was there and it made it for me
>   very enjoyable.  Nothing like a cup of coffee after the day's work, sit
>   back, and watch UtLL for the umpteenth time ;)))
>   "I don't suppose security is much of a problem for ya..."
> 		- Danilo O'dell (sp?)	in "Up the Long Ladder"
> 
> 	- Miks

Miks, I don't know about the humour......did O'Dell _really_ have to say
"Send in the Clones"?
I appreciate puns as much as anyone, but _that_?..............

___________________________________________________________________________
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New season start date
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:18:15 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul20.163714.19738@nntp.uoregon.edu> Eric_Gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric gorr) writes:
<In article <3655@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<> 
<> In article <1992Jul16.214818.14139@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (eric gorr) writes:
<> <So, does anyone know when the new season of ST:TNG will begin?  I am
<> <looking
<> <for the exact date of part II of time's arrow.
<> 
<> Unlike network programs, ST:TNG is one of the few programs where one can
<> determine exactly when the new season will start.
<> 
<> Think about it just a wee bit and you'll all come up with the answer.
<
<Ok fine....
<
<So, when will it start?
<
<(In other words, I don't want to think about it and if you know, then
<please,
<all knowledgeable one, tell us)

The problem is that every week, we keep repeating ourselves.  Schedules have
been posted in the past.  It is kind-of-like talking to an empty room, that
decides to listen after you leave.  By then the info has come and gone.

Is it really that hard to take a previous schedule and think just a wee bit?
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From: esf007@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Achurist)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:19:16 GMT
Organization: abUSENET, Coventry University, Coventry, UK

In article <1992Jul26.004839.17813@chili.cc.lehigh.edu> learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.172053.24591@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
>
>Lasers have no mass--phasers are phased matter and energy, and have been
>shown to exert a physical force.  See ST3:TSFS, where Kirk fires a phaser
>at a Klingon on Genesis.  The Klingon is thrown back against a tree and
>presumably dies on impact or in the air.  But the phaser blast threw him a
>good distance.
>     Even if phasers did not exert a mass, there is another perfectly good
>reason for this.  When the assassins shot Gorkon et al, bodily fluids
>burst through the wounds, and for every action there is a reaction, equal
>in force and opposite in direction.
>

Talking of equal and opposite reactions,  In ST3:TSFS kirk fires at the
klingon who hit the tree, and the beam from kirks phasor direction connects
kirk and the klingon. Shouldn't there be a hell of a kick from the phasor.
or at least a feedback because of the link fron kirk to the klingon , if the
bean manages to push the klingon into a tree the beam has to push from
somewhere, i.e kirk,  so we  should see the klingon go one way and kirk on 
the floor going, I wish it didn't do that everytime I wanna shoot somebody!




Achris.


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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: "The Highground" and the BBC
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:13:43 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


> They will be broadcasted in Stereo and will not have the
> "violent" bits cut out a la BBC. The only episode not to be shown will be 
> The High Ground (for the same reasons as the BBC refused to show it).

Does anyone know why the BBC refused to show "The High Ground".  Also, can
someone give a plot summary of this episode?

If this has been hashed out before, please just e-mail directly to me rather
than posting.

Thanks,

Terry
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:50:11 GMT
Keywords: characters' names

In article <1992Jul21.182334.41895@chili.cc.lehigh.edu> learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>Here's an item of interest for people wondering where the names come  from
>for Star Trek characters.
>
>We all (or many of us, at least) have heard about Jordi LaForge, the 
>out that "pulaski" is actually a word and not just a name.
>
>Add that to other useless name trivia about the origins of names like
>"Hikaru" (means the Shining One, see Vonda Mackintyre's _Entropy Effect_
>for more info.), "Mr Atoz" ("A to Z," appropriate for a librarian) and
>N'gilam ("Malign" backwards).

Also, from the episode 'Darmok,' the eponymous alien captain's name is 'Komrad,'
backwards. Komrad -> Comrade. 


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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: Mange Moi! (was: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek...)
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:25:22 GMT
    <1992Jul28.182449.22144@gagme.chi.il.us> <Bs5tyI.2xH@scd.hp.com> 
    <Bs7u3C.9MJ@ecf.toronto.edu> <Bs7yLv.Iz@acsu.buffalo.edu> 
    <Bs96Cn.4G@news.larc.nasa.gov>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In <Bs96Cn.4G@news.larc.nasa.gov> avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee) writes:


>well when it comes to language its sadly accepted as truth. remember the
>fuss over the james bond movie license to kill? it was originally called 
>license revoked, they changed the name because a 'field test' the 
>studio did revealed that alot of americans didnt know what the word revoked 
>meant. oh well.

   People didn't know the meaning of the word revoked?  One wonders
who these people use in their surveys... First graders?  People for whom
English is a second language?

RC Carman

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From: jdcurtis@cs.washington.edu (Janet Denise Curtis)
Subject: The Name Game
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:13:16 GMT

I think "picard" refers to a province in France.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: s_goetz@irau29.ira.uka.de (Oliver Goetz)
Subject: Re: "Royale" is a great episode.  NOT!!
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:29:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.235039.18895@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
|> 
|> I never saw "Royale" before last night.  Now I'm sorry I did.
|> It is the worst Next Generation episode of all time.
|> 
|> Charles Gibbs
|> gibbsc@ac.grin.edu
So you probably never saw the last episode of season 2
(I don't remember the title), where Riker get's infected
by some kind of germ. The whole episode consisted of
flashbacks, a Dr.Pulaski with trial-and-error methods,
and a whining Troi. That was REALLY embarrassing.
The worst ST episode I ever saw (both TOS and TNG).
It was even worse than Spock's Brain!


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From: mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Holodeck Question
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:24:33 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <5813@ucru2.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.121606.21806@crash.cts.com> bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com  
>(Beverly Woolf) writes:
>> In <1992Jul23.200357.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>> >Ergo, the water is real, and his clothes would have to dry just like
>> >any other wet garment in the 24th (or 20th) century.
>Well, on a small scale, the food replicators can create matter out of
>energy.  But this can not be done on a larger scale.  Hence, the holodecks
>must be confined in a room where the objects can be created, but can not
>exist outside of the room.  Therefore, if somebody does get wet, then
>if he remains in the holodeck, he will have to dry as normal.  But the
>second he steps out of the holodeck, the water will disappear and the
>clothes will be instantly dry.
>What do you think about that theory?

	I have read some of the other responses to this posting.  However,
	they don't make it clear that the very first episode (way back
	when), "Encounter at Farpoint", Wesley is on the Holodeck with
	Data and Riker.  Wesley falls into a stream that is simulated there
	and Data rescues Wesley by lifting him out of the water with one 
	arm and giving an Android smile.  They later leave the Holodeck and
	I Wesley is still dripping wet, leaving a puddle on the deck.  I
	believe this was Picard's discovery and Wesley's embarrasment.

	Anyway, it the show is considered canon, then we should try to 
	accomodate a theory to support what is presented.  I fell that 
	a good guess would be to say that the Holodeck is quite intelligent
	and recognizes that water has an attribute of wetness, so that
	if a real person falls into a simulated body of water, or is splashed
	with a glass of water, let's say, then the computer synthesizes the 
	substance as needed to deliver the full physical effect to the 
	person.  Thus, as Wesley, fell into the "stream", the holodeck system
	projects synthesized water around Wesley so that he gets soaked.
	Therefore, not everything in the Holodeck is really substantial, but
	is substantial to the point of necessity, which is relatively 
	minimal.

					- Rob Casey



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