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From: unknown@apple.com (Matt Ackeret)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Frank Oz
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:39:48 GMT
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In article <1992Nov7.032249.7500@udel.edu> Stephen Litterst,
litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu writes:
>Jeez, those muppeteers are just dropping off like flies.  First Jim,
then Rich.
>If Frank dies then I give up,... Life just wouldn't be worth it without
Frank.
>(Not like I was happy whne Jim died, but to lose both Jim and Frank? 
Sigh)

Actually, from the interviews I've read, Frank Oz really doesn't look
upon his
Muppets time with a great deal of fondness.  It's really a shame, but it
sounds like
he really disliked it.
From: basil@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Brian J. Stokes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: RE: Muppet Movie on CD???
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:46:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

*sigh* This is tragic.  I've NEVER seen a Muppet Movie soundtrack CD, if I
had I'd have bought it instantly.  Why are the Henson things incredibly 
difficult to find?  If ANYONE out there sees a Muppet Movie CD or the book
Of Muppets and Men, PLEASE contact me, and I'll arange to buy it.

Brian



P.S.  At least I have a Muppet lunchbox, and the Muppet Movie soundtrack on
record. :)
From: shorts@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Rafi Levavy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: rumour...
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:36:27 GMT
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Organization: Brandeis University

wsherman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (William Sherman -Visualization) writes:

>> A friend told me today that he'd read in the paper that Disney was
>> planning on releasing The Muppet Movie, The Great Muppet Caper, and
>> several compilations of The Muppet Show on video tape for purchase!!! 

>Have these been out of print that long?  I'll have to check my laser
>disk catalogs and see if they are still available.  Now, if the
>Muppet Show, and other Muppet specials are released, then that would
>be great.

Yes.  I found a used Laserdisc place that had "	The Muppet Movie" (after
much searching), and it isn't of the highest quality (it was released
on disk in 1981).  I am still looking for a copy of "The Great Muppet
Caper", which is also out of print.  I believe that "The Muppets Take
Manhatten" is in print, though.

-- 
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(Not Jacques)				The Thermal Wonder, The Candy Man
"He wears shorts and a			
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From: v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: Big Brown Hairy Guy
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Nov7.011153.674@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>, milton@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (milton) writes...
>In article <1992Nov6.171107.19833@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> reno@cps.msu.edu (Gerald L Jr Reno) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov3.140142.1@pomona.claremont.edu> rlai@pomona.claremont.edu (Mac Crusader) writes:
>>>      What's the name of the big brown hairy guy in the Muppet Show?
>>>
>>>      Roger
>>
>>No, not Roger. It's Sweetums.
> 
> 
>I'll like to add that Sweetums was performed by the talented Richard Hunt
>who passed away eary this year.  He also animated Scooter, Janice, Statler
>and Beaker. :(



Dammit, I'm getting tired of this...Frank Oz is going to be all by himself in
a couple of years at this rate...*sigh*.  You'd think the Powers That Be might
let the really brilliant people like the Muppetteers stay around a while longer,
wouldn't you?


                                                         --Ben
From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: rumour...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:29:37 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
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In article <cf08e=m00WBOQ_1ox0@andrew.cmu.edu> Rebecca Alice Metz <rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>A friend told me today that he'd read in the paper that Disney was
>planning on releasing The Muppet Movie, The Great Muppet Caper, and
>several compilations of The Muppet Show on video tape for purchase!!!  I
>don't know how valid it is, nut if there's any hope at all, I'm
>ECSTATIC!!!  

In the jewel case to "The Muppet Christmas Carol" that I just bought there was
an insert with the following message "Coming January 1993, Jim Henson Home
Video will bring the fun and hilarity of the Muppets to your home. Watch for
this selection of outrageous entertainment coming to stores everywhere."


   George
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From: rcpeders@iastate.edu (Robert C Pedersen)
Subject: new SS intro/coda
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:20:51 GMT

Some kind person a few weeks back warned us that Sesame Street would be
launching updated themes, but I haven't seen any reactions here.  I was home
nursing a cold this morning, so I took a look.  Here are my thoughts:

1) I didn't like the music (I don't know enough terminology to describe it
to anyone's satisfaction [there's a new band in town but you can't get the
sound from a story in a magazine--billy joel] but it feels sort of mildly
Latin/technopop to me).  Don't let that scare you though -- I'm a person who
needs familiarity to like music, so I might like this in a few years.

2) I DID like the acompanying graphics.  A variety of live-action images
with superimposed muppets. Example -- an apartment with Bert in every
window, with a laughing Ernie superimposed.

3) As near as I can tell, there were no other changes in format or casting,
except that the episode's story was introduced before the main theme was
played.  I saw lots of old spots, including one of the ancient pinball
animated counting shots.

Any other reactions?

BTW, I just read the memoirs of publisher/raconteur Bennet Cerf.  He
mentioned that his son Chris was at CTW.  Indeed, in the episode I saw this
morning, Chris Cerf was one of those credited with "Special Songs."  Does
anyone happen to know what his role at CTW was or is?

-- 
Bob Pedersen
Recent Graduate and Flunkie, Iowa State University
Future Library Science student, University of Iowa
I speak for neither institution
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: jrosen@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Jamey Rosen)
Subject: For What It's Worth
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:22:18 GMT

Remember when the Muppets sang a version of Steven Stills' "For What It's
Worth" ? (...Stop, children, what's that sound...etc.) They changed the
lyrics to make the songa statement on animal rights. Does anyone know the
Muppets' lyrics?

Jamey

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From: pwhitman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Philip N Whitman)
Subject: that's about the size of it
Keywords: where you put your eyes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:23:53 GMT

It's time for another SS lyric request.  The song I'm wondering about is
that one that I guess is trying to teach the kids about perspective, and
accompanies an animated sequence going from small to large and back again:
giant ants and snails that become small when the view shifts to a couple 
of kids, who are dwarfed by an elephant, all of whom disappear when the 
view expands to include the entire planet before going back and ending up 
with the ant again.  The refrain goes, "That's about the size/ of where you 
put your eyes/ That's about the size of it."  Other verse fragments include 
"oh, the big become the little things..."  "...when you look at it..."  
Quite a catchy tune, actually.  It was one of my favorites when I was a kid, 
though aside from the music the only things that made an impression on me  
back then were the giant ants and the phrase "the size of where you put 
your eyes."  (I'm still not quite sure I catch on to the syntax of that 
phrase.)

I'm sure with our combined memory we can put this one to rest, just like
we did with "Capital I."

-Neal
From: davina@ocf.berkeley.edu (Davina Tung)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Sesame Street Songbook
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:52:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
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The title IS "Sesame Street Songbook (64 songs)".

Also, could anyone tell me more about the Nickelodeon specials?  Does anyone
have a listing of what they'll be playing?

And one more question: I just picked up this really weird little book in the 
library, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me about it.  It was a sort 
of handbook to a movie called "Time Piece" by a someone Schreivogel, starring 
Jim Henson and produced by Henson Associates.  In the back was a listing of 
the source for the video: McGraw-Hill Publishers, Film Div.  This is maybe a 
long shot, but does anyone know if they'd have more stuff from Henson 
Associates?  (Like the Muppet shows maybe?)

Yes, yes, I COULD just call the publisher, but I'm being lazy. 
Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:50:04 -0500 
From: Rebecca Alice Metz <rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: For What It's Worth
	<BxM017.9LI@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>

I dunno how accyrate these are, but I'kll do my best.  (I think they did
more with the setting / arrangement than with the lyrics, though.)  It
opens in a forest, with a groundhog emerging from behind a log.  Other
aminals come out for the chorus and random looking-around stuff.

There's something happening here
what it is aint exactly clear
there's a man with a gun over there
tellin'me I've got to beware

It's time to STOP, children, what's that sound, everybody look what's
goin' round (repeat 2 or 3 times) (round of noisy, yelling hunters
behind hiding animals)

These creatures come into our woods
We'd understand them, if only we could.
But what's the reason that they can give
for not wanting you and me to live?

It's time to STOP, children, what's that sound, everybody look what's
goin' round (repeat 2 or 3 times) (round of noisy, yelling hunters
behind hiding animals)

The forest echoes silent woes
a million years of bucks and does
(somethingsomethingsomething)
can't we all live our own way?


It's time to STOP, children, what's that sound, everybody look what's
goin' round (repeat 2 or 3 times) 

(Hunters say "I got me a motorcycle!"  "Well, I got me a tractor..."  etc...)

STOP!!!(whispered)

         (*)--(*)
        /        \
       /  ______  \             Becky Metz (rm6p@andrew.cmu.edu)
       \  \ \/ /  /
     ___\  \__/  /___         
     \_  \______/  _/           "De flim is okee dokey."- The Swedish Chef
       \__      __/
          \____/                "Jack not name...Jack JOB!!!"- Sweetums
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: Lydia Lyrics and today's Ses St episode
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:32:07 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

>The lyrics to Lydia, Oh Lydia as sung by KermitheFrog on one of the
>two Muppet Show Records, transcribed in September, but someone
>beat me to posting them (is this where I make a plug for a lyric FAQ 
>file????) I don't actually have the title around. I taped the record off 
>of the library (shhh! It's a secret) and didn't jot down titles because
>each song already has a folklorist title.

>Lydia

>Lydia, oh Lydia, 
>say have you met Lydia
>Lydia the tattooed lady.
>She has eyes that folks adore
>so andetore (?) and even more
 
 and her torso even moreso.

>So, Lydia, oh Lydia.
>that encyclopedia,
>oh, Lydia that Queen of Tattoo.
>On her back is the Battle of Waterloo,
>beside it the wreck of the Habaras, too (?-someone want to explain?)
                            Hesperus (sp?) II  (A ship that sank *:) )

>and proudly above waves the red, white, and blue.
>You can learn a lot from Lydia!
>Ladada da da dum
>Ladada da da dum
>She can give you a view of the world in tattoo
>if you can step up and tell her where,
>for a dime you can see Kankakee or Paris
>or Washington crossing the Delaware
>Ladada da da dum
>doo doo doo doot do
>Lydia, oh Lydia, 
>say have you met Lydia
>Lydia the tattooed lady.
>When her muscles start relaxing,
>up the hill comes Andrew Jackson
>Lydia, oh Lydia, 
>say have you met Lydia
>oh, Lydia the champ of them all!
>She once swept an admiral off of his feet,
>the ships on her lips made his heart skip a beat,
>and now the old boy's in command of the fleet,
>for he went and married Lydia!

>and, them be them. Appologies for any inaccuracies, as well as for 
>posting, rather than e-mailing-it seemed that at least two people were
>interested in the lyrics. 
Well, seeing the amount of peeps who've mailed me for them, thanx...
it saves me uploading thme *:)

>I can't resist adding something that I saw today on Sesame Street: when I
>turned on the set, Snuffy was manipulating handpuppets and 
>having Bird figure out what emotion they portrayed. At the end of
>the segment, after the puppet made Bird thank him for helping to
>explain emotions, bird said something to the effect of "Gosh, it's hard
>to work w/puppets" (Wish I remembered the whole quote! If anyone
>does, please tell!). The irony was incredible-it took a sec for the
>doubleness to sink in. 
Tray nice. Me like.

>There was also a segment of "The Adventures of Prarie Dawn," something which I
>had never seen before. Mixedbag....

>Sara Ravid                                     ST923158@CC.PIP.BRANDEIS.EDU
>Awaiting Big Bird quote re puppetry for new .sig...


Well, all I've got to say is will they ever get back to good ole
1-12 instead of this new 1-20 crap... I just can't take it *:)

SOimn
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: milton@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (milton)
Subject: Re: Big Brown Hairy Guy
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:11:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.171107.19833@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> reno@cps.msu.edu (Gerald L Jr Reno) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.140142.1@pomona.claremont.edu> rlai@pomona.claremont.edu (Mac Crusader) writes:
>>      What's the name of the big brown hairy guy in the Muppet Show?
>>
>>      Roger
>
>No, not Roger. It's Sweetums.


I'll like to add that Sweetums was performed by the talented Richard Hunt
who passed away eary this year.  He also animated Scooter, Janice, Statler
and Beaker. :(

Milton

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From: hosch2263@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Sweetums and Robin
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:32:17 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


        To my knowledge, Robin and Sweetums did a duet together on the original
Muppet Show.  They were singing about two ships, one with no sail, and the
other without a rudder.  That, of course, was themselves.

        Kitten


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From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Muppet TV alert!!
Date: 12 Nov 1992 11:44:00 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
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According to the new TV guide, Nickelodeon is going to show one
of the muppet specials this Sunday night -- the one where they do
the parodies of the classic movies.  Yippee!  

-Sandra
From: steve.degroof@canrem.com (steve degroof)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: re: faq?
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:37:49 GMT
Reply-To: "steve degroof" <steve.degroof@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

A request a while back for all the stuff Henson did reminded me of
something, hopefully someone can help me remember what this was.
Does anyone recall a TV special Henson did or was on that had the
Seven Deadly Sins?  I remember Sloth, Envy, Anger, and Greed of the 7.
They each had a little pageant banner showing the name.  (Help me!
I'm losing my mind! :> )

(I seem to recall reading or seeing something about tours of
the New York studio...does anyone know anything about such things?)

Also, in the list, don't forget Ed Sullivan, The Tonight Show,
Arsenio Hall, and Nightline guest shots.  There was also some special
about the making of the Dark Crystal, the Muppets at the MGM Studio,
The Muppet Family Christmas, the Christmas special with John Denver,
Christmas Eve On Sesame Street, Big Bird Goes To Japan, Please Don't
Eat the Pictures, Follow That Bird, the Shalom Sesame series, the
Muppets' 20th(?) 25th(?) anniversary special, and (without him, of
course) the Muppets' tribute to Jim Henson.

Certainly don't leave out the Muppet 3D movie at Disney/MGM
(a RIOT and a MUST-SEE)!  Do The Empire Strikes Back and
Return of the Jedi count?

Henson and Muppet crew also starred in an American Express commercial.
There were also many early commercials for coffee and such.

And first, but not least, the rather-obscure Junior Morning Show!  Has
anyone ever seen it?

--Eve (Steve's squeeze)
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From: cscon115@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: sweetums song
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:58:38 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

I rember this song from somewhere and the talk of the big brown guy
(sweetums) has remined me of this.

does anyone know where it is from?

if not, just toss it in with all the other songs that we have
the words to.
*************************************************************************

some woman:

Sweetums lay your ugly head,
down apon your wretched bed.
Close your eyes and go to sleep
rest your hulking bulking heep.

sweetums:    

Nighty night! (As he fall backwards on to his bed.)

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From: wsherman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (William Sherman -Visualization)
Subject: The Muppet Christmas Carol is out ...
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:41:00 GMT
Keywords: Muppet Album CD

... on CD.  So, obviously we can expect the movie for this Christmas
season.  I bought it about an hour ago.  I haven't listened to it
yet.  I does come with a little booklet containing the lyrics of the
songs, and some photos of the cast from different scenes.  In particular,
there is a funny picture of Statler and Waldorf.

Also, I picked up John Denver & The Muppets: A Christmas Together CD.
I saw this last year, but didn't think of buying it until after
Chirstmas, and it had been packed away for the year.

I think if we want to see more Muppet stuff on CD, people should
buy these CDs.  Maybe if sales are good, they will bring back some
of the other soundtrack muppet CDs that have gone out of print.
I've also recently seen a couple new Sesame Street CDs, as well as
the Dinosaurs CD.  I bought them too - I guess I'm just afraid they
will go the way of the Muppet Movie soundtrack CD, and I'll be left
wishing I had a copy.

In a few minutes, I will post a listing of all the songs on the five
CDs I've recently purchased for those who are interested.

	Bill

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From: v124jw4y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: sweetums song
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1dl5o5INN6sj@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm) writes...
>In article <1992Nov8.235838.11043@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cscon115@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>>I rember this song from somewhere and the talk of the big brown guy
>>(sweetums) has remined me of this.
>>
>>does anyone know where it is from?
>The Frog Prince
> 
>....
>>some woman:
>Kermit (forgive him Jim) as he is about to rescue Sir Robin the Brave
>from becoming Sweetums breakfast.
> 
>>
>>Sweetums lay your ugly head,
>>down apon your wretched bed.
>>Close your eyes and go to sleep
>>rest your hulking bulking heep.
>>
>>sweetums:    
>>Nighty night! (As he fall backwards on to his bed.)
> 
>Great show, one of my all time favorite muppet TV special.
> 
>   George




Actually, I could have sworn it was Robin who sang this--maybe he was saving
Kermit?  I don't remember for sure, but I can hear the song in Robin's voice
mentally, not Kermit's.


                                                          --Ben
From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: sweetums song
Date: 9 Nov 1992 07:59:01 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
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In article <1992Nov8.235838.11043@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cscon115@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>I rember this song from somewhere and the talk of the big brown guy
>(sweetums) has remined me of this.
>
>does anyone know where it is from?
The Frog Prince

...
>some woman:
Kermit (forgive him Jim) as he is about to rescue Sir Robin the Brave
from becoming Sweetums breakfast.

>
>Sweetums lay your ugly head,
>down apon your wretched bed.
>Close your eyes and go to sleep
>rest your hulking bulking heep.
>
>sweetums:    
>Nighty night! (As he fall backwards on to his bed.)

Great show, one of my all time favorite muppet TV special.

   George
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From: srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: The D song
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:41:00 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University


    I would like the lyrics to the D song.  Some of what I remember is
a daughter and a father talking:

Daddy dear oh daddy dear do.....do ducks have ears??

etc. etc.  

Anybody remember this one
Thanks
  Steve

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