HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: news@ohare.Chicago.COM (news at ohare)
Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,ba.news.stats
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for ohare
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:52:14 GMT
Organization: Chicago Software Works


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ditka         	  4496	   264	    77	      2	     57	    99%	     5%
local         	     1	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%

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princeton      1
altos          1
From: root@pyramid.pyramid.com (Admin)
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Bay Area Statistics SUMMARY 92/08/26
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:03:57 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

System		Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	Fan Out	% rejct
-------------	------	------	------	-------	-------	-------	-------
 altos        	 33595	  2881	 12307	  32604	    240	    1.0	     7%
 bionet       	101224	  5429	   439	 759491	   1197	    7.5	     5%
*daver        	 97804	200725	  1153	1088325	   1379	   11.1	    67%
 ditka        	 80446	 55517	   701	 209224	   1116	    2.6	    40%
 hoptoad      	 77808	 84512	  8370	 356144	   1098	    4.6	    52%
 ig           	 95429	  5392	    75	 170129	    907	    1.8	     5%
 motcsd       	 77739	 47971	    71	 495663	    868	    6.4	    38%
 olivea       	 98678	  1142	     0	1736208	   1211	   17.6	     1%
*pyramid      	 61004	 18345	  2060	 843965	    628	   13.8	    23%
 troi         	156703	  9194	     0	    118	   3114	    0.0	     5%
*ucbvax       	 40521	  6050	  1672	 289584	    629	    7.1	    12%
 unixhub      	107247	 12396	     1	 273948	   3535	    2.6	    10%
 zorch        	 87370	  9261	   121	 179693	      0	    2.1	     9%
From: news@toaster.SFSU.EDU (news)
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for ziploc
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:00:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: San Francisco State University

System		Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
agate         	     0	     0	     0	      1	      0	   100%	     0%
local         	     1	     0	     0	      0	      0	   100%	     0%

TOTALS        	     1	     0	     0	      1	      0	   100%	     0%

Total Articles processed 1

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ba      1
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
From: usenet@sat.com
Subject: Weekly USENET report for sat
Reply-To: usenet@sat.com
Organization: SAT Corp., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:01:05 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
apple         	     0	     0	     0	      1	      0	     1%	     0%
daver         	     0	     0	     0	     51	      0	     1%	     0%
local         	    51	     0	     0	      0	     50	   100%	     0%
sat           	     0	     0	     0	     50	      0	     1%	     0%
vsi1          	     0	     0	     0	      1	      0	     1%	     0%

TOTALS        	    51	     0	     0	    103	     50	   100%	     0%

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From: root@pyramid.pyramid.com (Admin)
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Bay Area Statistics SUMMARY 92/09/02
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:16:21 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

System		Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	Fan Out	% rejct
-------------	------	------	------	-------	-------	-------	-------
 altos        	 62374	  3179	     0	 106757	    900	    1.7	     4%
 bionet       	106431	  5964	   292	 792849	   1247	    7.4	     5%
 claris       	 91798	103032	    67	  68320	   1060	    0.7	    52%
*daver        	101639	136352	  1783	1126909	   1576	   11.1	    57%
 ditka        	 82842	 24194	   876	 204643	   1328	    2.5	    22%
 hoptoad      	 83419	 91371	  5751	 399444	   1107	    4.8	    52%
 ig           	 95270	  4357	    60	 165583	    978	    1.7	     4%
 motcsd       	 70512	 57195	    32	 388780	    728	    5.5	    44%
 ohare        	  4497	   264	    77	      2	     57	    0.0	     5%
 olivea       	102307	  1757	     0	1798440	   1262	   17.6	     1%
*pyramid      	 73718	  7706	  1742	1027862	    709	   13.9	     9%
 unixhub      	110819	 13325	     0	 284998	   3391	    2.6	    10%
 zorch        	 86658	  5879	   129	 180448	      0	    2.1	     6%
From: usenet@sat.com
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Weekly USENET report for sat
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:01:05 GMT
Reply-To: usenet@sat.com
Organization: SAT Corp., Sunnyvale, CA


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
apple         	     0	     0	     0	      1	      0	     3%	     0%
daver         	     0	     0	     0	     31	      0	     3%	     0%
local         	    31	     0	     0	      0	     30	   100%	     0%
sat           	     0	     0	     0	     30	      0	     3%	     0%
vsi1          	     0	     0	     0	      1	      0	     3%	     0%

TOTALS        	    31	     0	     0	     63	     30	   100%	     0%

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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Double 99 changed
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:09:02 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.

In article <17p566INN9r8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug28.110504@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
>}to blather a bit much, and their jokes are far more drawn out than the material
>
>	Sucks sucks sucks.  I swear, their talk is worse than any other
>radio station I've ever heard. I immediately switch it off when they start
>rambling.
>-- 
>/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   used ADB trackball WANTED          Apple II Forever!\

It sucks alright. Lamont and Tenelli, who get on my nerves a LOT at
least has my concession that at TIMES they are entertaining. Those guys
at the Double 69...er 99 couldn't even do the Princess Di Telephone call
thing right.
Speaking of LAmont and Tenelli:
* Does Lamont's "snort" when he "laughs" bug anyone else?
* Are those "Love Connections" a set-up (scripted)? I can't believe
  the saga of Sollie(sp?). Also have my doubts about the married guy
  who won the Love Conn. and went out on the date, only to be found
  out by L&T that he was in fact married. According to them, he lost
  his wife and job because of their publicizing this.

* Blazie and Bob are the best

* Alex Bennett sucks too 



>What the world needs now is another folk singer like I need a hole in my head.

                            R ****
                             I
                              C
                          **** K	
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner)
Subject: Re: Palo Alto Cable channel 58?
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 02:34:48 GMT
Organization: Trailing Edge Technologies, Mountain View, CA

>I disagree.  Less!  It's showing up on Viacom too, as a placeholder for
>the coming Sci-Fi Channel.

Bingo.  The SF Channel is uplinking it until their official start date,
sometime late in September.

w.
From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Palo Alto Cable channel 58?
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:52:09 GMT
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848

rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:

>>In article <1992Aug20.205323.29711@PA.dec.com> reid@pa.dec.com (Brian Reid) writes:
>>>It's obvious what this is. My question is "who is doing this, and why, and
>>>how can I help ensure that this sort of thing happens more often?"

>...  It's showing up on Viacom too, as a placeholder for
>the coming Sci-Fi Channel.  It's crap as far as I can see; I'd rather see
>genuine public access without a year's waiting list than this yuppie cartoon.

It's not a product of Viacom or Palo Alto or wherever.  It's a product of
the Sci-Fi Channel itself.  It's filling space on their satellite
transponder as well, as a way of attracting cable systems and home dish
owners.  I'm surprised a cable system is running the promo; I'd have
thought they'd wait to turn the channel on until the Sept.15 launch date
of the channel itself.

Consider yourselves lucky; back here in the East (Waltham MA) my cable
company isn't -- and won't be -- carrying the Sci-Fi Channel.  (oh yes,
public access is available right around the corner from me -- no waiting
list :-)

Scott Fybush 
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: Double 99 changed
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:05:04 GMT


Some comments after listening to the "new" KDBK...

The music mix is quite good, incorporating so-called "Modern" tracks
(Pretenders, Depressed Mode, B-52s, & other such Live 105 fare) with 
more conventional AOR - sorta the best parts of Live 105 and KOME together.
It is rather loose, however, with the segues frequently missed and 
dead space between liners and songs.  It sounds  rather like KFJC or KALX
on a mediocre show, which is deadly for a commercial station.

Their "Morning Radio All Day" format is at least a nice try.  They tend
to blather a bit much, and their jokes are far more drawn out than the material
warrants - It drains the excitement out of the program.  If they'd cut
the talk to say 1:30 before the commercials and 1:30 after, and maybe do
a bit of "talk-up" over the songs, it'd keep the motion going tons better
and ease the channel-switch-urge it gives one now.

What the hell; it's way better than the tepid programming they were doing
before.

And if only they could get some decent coverage in the Peninsula!  Are both
those stations Class A, or what?  Anyway, best of luck to 'em.


-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
From: gstory@netcom.com (Glenn Story)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Palo Alto Cable channel 58?
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:03:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug20.205323.29711@PA.dec.com> reid@pa.dec.com (Brian Reid) writes:
>
>Palo Alto Cable Coop has an undocumented channel that for the last few days
>has been showing 24-hour/day new-age art videos, showing simulated landings
>on imaginary planets, fluid-flow lightshow stuff reminiscent of the old
>Jefferson Airplane lightshows, eerie voiceovers of "We're coming to get you,
>Steven Spielberg", and such.
>
Well, I have the impression it's all one work--several segements repeated 
in random order.

The eerie part was that I recognized several of the "We're coming to get you"
names:  a co-worker, a relative.  Just co-incidence, I presume.

>It's obvious what this is. My question is "who is doing this, and why, and
>how can I help ensure that this sort of thing happens more often?"

Well, we can call the Co-op on Monday.  (I assumed that calling during the
weekend would just raise their answering service.)

I agree:  More!
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Subject: Re: BBC Hour?
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:08:41 GMT

Try KQED at 9:00 P.M.
Also KALW (91.7) 7:00, 8:00, 9:00 A.M. and 8:00 P.M.
From: mcb@cixous.postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Palo Alto Cable channel 58?
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:22:00 GMT
Organization: Postmodern Consulting, San Francisco, California USA

In the referenced article, fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush) writes:
> Just as a quick follow-up:
> 
> The names being run on the Sci-Fi TV advance promo are those of the top
> executives at big cable firms such as TCI, ATC, and Cablevision.  Cute, eh?

Well, at least some of them are sf people -- I saw the names "Robert
Silverberg" and "Fredric Brown", both of whom are, of course,
well-known sf writers.  I thought it might mean they had something to
do with the channel itself, but as Brown died in 1972 this seems
unlikely.

--
Michael C. Berch  
mcb@postmodern.com
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Double 99 changed
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:04:11 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'The Fox'

In article <1992Aug28.110504@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
>
>And if only they could get some decent coverage in the Peninsula!  Are both
>those stations Class A, or what?  
>
KDBK is Class B from Sutro Tower while KDBQ is Class B from Loma Prieta
with a directional antenna aimed south to avoid an adjacent channel
interference conflict.  Taken as a whole, this package could probably
work better in the signal department than it does.   

-- 
KUFX |      w  ["]                            | WA6MBV     
94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
FM   |          H                             | ----------   
********  \_____I_____/  37 3 10N/121 59 10W  **************
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Double 99 changed
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:36:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Aug28.110504@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
}The music mix is quite good, incorporating so-called "Modern" tracks
}(Pretenders, Depressed Mode, B-52s, & other such Live 105 fare) with 
}more conventional AOR - sorta the best parts of Live 105 and KOME together.

	Great description.. KOME (my favorite station) and Live 105 mixed..
They seem to play the more 'pop' oriented Modern Rock songs, which is good..
those are the ones I like on Live 105.. I usually listen to Live 105 for a
few minutes to check if any good songs come on, but not listen to it for a long
time since I don't like most of the Modern Rock..

	However, even though I *like* their new format, their old format
was still much better..  I can get all of the classic and hard rock on
KOME, and enough modern rock on Live 105..  What Double 99 added to those two
types of music was "light rock" and the old top-40 songs (before top 40
turned into rap crap) that I like..
	
	Basically, double 99 + KOME + (some) Live 105 >> KDBK+KOME+Live105
by a LONG shot. (I'm talking about variety, obviously)

	It is still good enough to have a button for it on my car radio
(94.5, KOME, 98.9, Live 105).. but I prefer the old format by a long shot.

}Their "Morning Radio All Day" format is at least a nice try.  They tend
}to blather a bit much, and their jokes are far more drawn out than the material

	Sucks sucks sucks.  I swear, their talk is worse than any other
radio station I've ever heard. I immediately switch it off when they start
rambling.
-- 
/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   used ADB trackball WANTED          Apple II Forever!\
\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED for //s, ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS info/
What the world needs now is another folk singer like I need a hole in my head.
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Palo Alto Cable channel 58?
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 00:11:27 GMT

In article <z5-nx-l.gstory@netcom.com> gstory@netcom.com (Glenn Story) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.205323.29711@PA.dec.com> reid@pa.dec.com (Brian Reid) writes:
>>It's obvious what this is. My question is "who is doing this, and why, and
>>how can I help ensure that this sort of thing happens more often?"
>
>Well, we can call the Co-op on Monday.  (I assumed that calling during the
>weekend would just raise their answering service.)
>
>I agree:  More!
>

I disagree.  Less!  It's showing up on Viacom too, as a placeholder for
the coming Sci-Fi Channel.  It's crap as far as I can see; I'd rather see
genuine public access without a year's waiting list than this yuppie cartoon.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
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From: alee@angelo.amd.com (C. Alex Lee)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,ba.market.misc,ca.wanted
Subject: Looking for 8-22-92 Saturday Night Live
Summary: looking for tape of beginning of show
Keywords: tape needed
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:47:18 GMT
Followup-To: ba.broadcast
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

Did anyone tape the Saturday Night Live last Saturday, 8/22 ?

Dana Carvey did a most hilarious impersonation of Ross Perot
at the very beginning, before the cast was announced.  If anyone
had it on tape, I'd like to arrange for a copy of it.  All the
cost is on me, of course.

--
	Alex Lee
	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Sunnyvale, Calif.
	E-mail:     alee@brahms.amd.com
	Voice mail: (408)749-5926
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Mutton
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:31:00 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

" Yeah, True Love is the greatest thing in the world, except for
a nice MLT---mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, when the mutton is nice
and lean, and the tomato is ripe. <makes puckering sound> They're so perky.
I love that."

             Miracle Max - "The Princess Bride"
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: curtz@lia.com (Curtz Lam)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Vietnamese coffee
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:55:19 GMT
Reply-To: curtz@lia.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: Litton/Integrated Automation, Alameda, California


	Yet another variation, what about Vietnamese coffee?  I've
always love iced cold Vitenamese coffee that you get from those small
noodle places.  Any ideas on how to make it at home?

								Curtz

-- 
Internet: curtz@lia.com
UUCP: ...!uunet!fernwood!lia!curtz
Phone: (510)-769-2445
From: teplitz@optilink.UUCP (Ron Teplitz)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Czech Restaurant in Inverness...
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:05:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

David Schutt mentioned the salad and appetizer bar at Manka's.  
I remember this with fondness - it was grand.  It was one of the first
things to go when new owners took over.  The place is still very good,
but it's just not the same as it was. 
-- 
Ron Teplitz - Tech Writer/Cellist
UUCP:   uunet!optilink!teplitz	Internet: teplitz@optilink.com 
"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so". D. Adams
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: The Coffeemaker I bought
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:07:53 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

tony@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Tony Quartuccio) wrote: 
->It's hard to believe that people still brew coffee into glass 
->carafes and leave them on burners until the coffee becomes tar!

???  i don't keep coffee around that long.  if it's still in the pot
30 minutes later i'm having a bad day.

->By the way, as for great coffee, I swear by one mail
->order place:  Gevalia Imports (1-800 GEVALIA).

???  i tried gevalia last time someone ranted about it on the net, and
was disappointed (they didn't even send my order properly: i asked for
whole bean and got pre-ground ... it tasted sorta skunky and old).
the free coffeemaker was a nice tough, though.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Savera, and nine Indian places ranked
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:13:48 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug31.194635.4561@cylink.COM> tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley) writes:
|_I_ would reduce Pasand to 1.5 stars. Where, John, would you put Shilpa (El C
|and Flora Vista, Santa Clara)? I recommend a solid 3.0.

Has anyone been to the new Shilpa in Campbell?  It's about time there was
another Indian place in my neck of the woods.  Anyone been to Mt. Everest
in Los Gatos?  Comments?

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: Vietnamese coffee
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:20:17 GMT

I was going to post to the coffee thread saying I don't care what kind of  
beans you use so long as they are ground fine, put into one of those slow  
drip thingies over a cup of sweetened condensed milk and brought to my table  
with a glass of ice. But I try not to discuss my addictions in public...

You can buy the device that sits over the cup at many Oriental markets. They  
use a rather fine grind of coffee. Perhaps the kind used for espresso would  
work. Sweetened condensed milk is available at finer (and coarser) grocery  
stores everywhere. I have intentionally neglected this line of research as I  
might never sleep again if I learned how to make Vietnamese Iced Coffee.  
(Hmm... what will we have for dinner tonight? Thai Iced Tea of Vietnamese  
Iced Coffee?)
--
Zalman Stern		   zalman@adobe.com		    (415) 962 3824
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "Yeah. Ask 'em if they'll upgrade my shifters too." Bill Watterson
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM (Keyvan Behnia)
Subject: Monteray Tips Needed
Reply-To: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM
Organization: Pacific Bel
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:36:44 GMT

My girlfriend is going back to France for a few weeks. We are planning to take a two
day R&R trip down through the Monteray Peninsula. At last I will get to try the BBQ
place in Castroville which I have heard so much about. Will see how it compare to Doug's
BBQ in Emeryville. 

However, be kind enough to suggest a couple of good places for dinner (seafood) and a good breakfast place and a good lunch place anywhere in that area. Also tips on charming B&B would be greatly appretiated. 

Thanks a whole bunch upfront.

Keyvan
Newsgroups: ba.food