HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yholbroo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Yash Holbrook)
Subject: Re: Capitalisation of "raison d'etre"
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:36:15 GMT

>>"The Raison d'Etre of ..."
>
>I'm in two minds as to the circumflex, though.  Here's why.  Since
>"raison d'\^{e}tre" has a circumflex in French, it would continue
>having it in English, at least in my writing.  Now in French
>capitalised vowels lose their accents, while in English there is no
>such rule.  So if it is first borrowed and then capitalised, it should
>end up as "Raison d'\^{E}tre".
>
>Other opinions from accent-sensitive people?
>

Since you ask for opinions...

I think it would be mistaken to stick a circumflex over the capital
"E", for one of the reasons you mention yourself.  In French, the 
capital letter loses any accent mark.  Why should WE add one?  We
certainly can't be said to be adding anything to the word, since 
the accent has no effect whatsoever on the way the French phrase
is pronounced in English.  It seems to me that adding an accent
to a phrase that doesn't have one in the original language might 
be a little presumptuous.

--Yash

p.s.  Comments welcome
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: john@bunsen.rosemount.com (John Perkins)
Subject: New verbs (was Re: log in to vs. log into
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:09:51 GMT

In article <casseres-290992134251@missmolly.apple.com> casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) writes:
>In article <koepp.6.717699787@cc1.unt.edu>, koepp@cc1.unt.edu (Cynthia
>Koepp - Computing Center) wrote:
>> 
>> Does one "log into" a computer or "log in to" a computer? I had always gone 
>> with the latter, but now I am not so sure.
>
>And some say "login to."  But you are right, it's "log in to."
>
>--
>
>David Casseres
>Exclaimer: Wow!

Yes, I agree it should be "log in to."  

'Login' is perfectly OK as a noun, but as a verb I think it's
much better as two words.  There are many other similar compound
nouns that are commonly used as verbs in the same form.

I think this is quite ugly and even suggests that they should be
pronounced the same as the noun, i.e. with the accent on the first
syllable.

Personally, I like to make a distinction in both spelling and
writing between the noun and verb forms.  I pronounce the verbs
with about equal emphasis on each word but the nouns with the
emphasis on the first word.

E.g.   verb            noun
      ------          ------
      log in          login
      set up          setup
      back up         backup
      drop out        dropout
      take over       takeover
      break through   breakthrough
      shut down       shutdown
      stand by        standby

John Perkins.
From: yhsim@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Correction: Help to improve English!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: yhsim@memstvx1.memst.edu
Organization: Memphis State University

Hi!
	It's me again Richard Sim.  I am writing again because I am not
familiar with the editor and there were some mistake in the last letter.

I meant to say, "I will regret the rest of my life if I didn't get my English



Thanks!
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Miscellaneous items
Date: 3 Oct 92 06:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

On 10-02-92, KATHY E. YOUNT wrote to ALL:

KE> 3.  I keep seeing "IMHO" in postings to this newsgroup.  What
KE>     does that mean?

In My Humble Opinion...

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)
 * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * Zounds!  Five Basset Hounds on the bed at once!
From: s913606@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mab)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Multimeter / Multi-meter
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:13:14 GMT

Ok guys.. newest argument around our town.

Just how do _you_ pronounce "multimeter"???

Bear in mind that when the word ends in metER it has no emphasis
placed on the last two syllables (think therMOmeter), whereas in
METre words the emphasis is on the second last (think CENtiMEtre).

So how do you pronounce multimeter???

Mab.
ps. I pronounce it muTImeter. Just to piss people off with the above argument.
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: What is a sheeny?
Summary: Come back, Dr. Schoen!  Come back!
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:46:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.164358.4501@desire.wright.edu> thayes@desire.wright.edu writes:
>RL> (Sheeny) may come from the Yiddish
>> expression "A shayner Yid" (with 'Yid' pronounced to rhyme with 'feed');
>> this is a compliment one Jew would pay another, meaning, "a good/nice/
>> beautiful Jew."  

[Note: someone posted an alternate hypothesis here; something to do
with a word for a thief...]

>Is this term equivalent in essence to "A shania maidl"? 
>(deep apologies for misspellings)  This was a play a few years ago.

Sure.  The German word "schoen" is the same thing.

>> Roger (a shayner Yid, or so they tell me...)

>Roger!  Shameless self-promotion during the Holy Days!
>(A good new year anyway for you, Roger!)

Shanah tovah to you, too...

Roger

>-----ted hayes


From: apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:40:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Bee sting or Bee bite?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english

jon@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Jon Wells) writes:
>In <1992Sep22.162524.38051@watson.ibm.com> yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>
>>Is it correct to say that a bee bites his victim?
>>...
>
>As far as the act of injecting the poison into a victim, this can only,
>IMHO, be known as a sting. 

If you are talking specifically about bees, then I would agree.  If the
sentence is meant to stand in isolation, then I would point out that snakes
inject poison into a victim by biting.

Andrew
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: xiong@fzi.de (Xiong Xun)
Subject: English Dictionary
Reply-To: fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:32:19 GMT

Anyone there knows if there is any English dictionary beeing reachable per ftp?
Please email me the info. Thanks a lot!

Xun Xiong
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: log in to vs. log into
Date: 28 Sep 1992 20:32:53 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <koepp.6.717699787@cc1.unt.edu> koepp@cc1.unt.edu (Cynthia Koepp - Computing Center) writes:

>Hi. This is my first posting to your group.

Hey, we're not elitists - it can be your group, too.

>Does one "log into" a computer or "log in to" a computer? I had always gone 
>with the latter, but now I am not so sure.

I always "log on to" a computer. Sorry to put another choice in there for
you...

Peter!

Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng)
Subject: Re: 'A' versus 'An'
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:04:44 GMT

yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:

>What are the rules for using 'a' and 'an'?

>I always thought that 'an' was used when followed by
>a noun that begins with a vowel.  For example, an apple,
>an eagle, an island, an octopus.  But "an unicycle" does 
>not sound correct to my ear.

>Is "an unicycle" correct?


>-- 
>Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
>From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state


The usage of a or an is not visual but audio. Does the word following the
article sound like a vowel or like a consonant. In the word unicycle, it 
sounds like yewnicycle; therefore, the article is "a". I know that we
say that y is sometimes a vowel, but in these cases it definitely functions
as a consonant.

Tracey
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Redundant foreign phrase usage (was Re: coke brings back anc)
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:56:05 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Oct2.023238.1297@techbook.com> dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque,,,,) writes:
<mikulska@astro.princeton.edu (Margaret Mikulska) writes:
<>dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
<>>The phrase "hoi polloi" is English but
<>>the components of that phrase are not English words.
<>
<>Doesn't matter if it's English, Greek, or Swahili.  If you want to use a
<>phrase or an expression, you better know what it means.
<
<Yes, they should know that it means "the general populace; masses" (to
<quote Webster's definition)

Fine.  If Webster says that "hoi polloi" means `the general populace',
it follows that "the hoi polloi" means `the the general populace'.  Right?

<but that doesn't mean they must know that "hoi" is an article.

It doesn't matter whether "hoi" or "polloi" or anything else is an article.
It only matters that "hoi polloi" is a definite noun phrase.

<Since it's a foreign phrase and they're not
<required to know that foreign language to speak English,

Sigh.  Why is it that some people never learn the distinction between
knowing a foreign language and being aware of a certain fact that has
something to do with that language?

<How about this: Latin has no articles.  So when we use a Latin noun, we
<shouldn't use any articles in front of it no matter what our English
<grammar tells us is correct.

"Your" English grammar tells "you" to use an article in front of a noun
in order to construct a definite noun phrase.  It doesn't tell "you" to
use an article in front of a noun phrase.  "Hoi polloi" is a noun phrase.
(See Webster's definition above.)

-- 
 `If ye hiv ears oan yer heid - then use them tae lissen.' (The Glasgow Gospel)
Ivan A Derzhanski   (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk;  iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: lange@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alex Lange)
Subject: Re: What is a sheeny?
Reply-To: lange@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Moving Finger Rights
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:24:56 GMT

rhemler@ems.cdc.com (Bob Hemler) writes:
: 
: 	Twice in the past week I heard the word "sheeny" (sp?).
: 	I couldn't find the word in my dictionary.  The first person
: 	using it was calling himself a sheeny because of his great
: 	skill at bartering and deal-making.  (You can get 15,000 fish
: 	hooks from him if you have something good to trade.)  The 
: 	second reference was on Minnesota Public Radio in a story
: 	about anti-Semitism in Minneapolis.  "Sheeny" was used as an 
: 	insulting name for a Jewish person.
: 
From _Dictionary of American Slang_, Wentworth and Flexner, 1975:

   sheeny   sheenie [derog.]  n. 1. A Jew. Always derog.,
   implying one who can't be trusted or one who invariably
   puts his own interests first.  Since before 1885; most
   common c 1910--c 1925.  Probably from German "schin" =
   "a petty thief, cheat, miser".  2.  A tailor. c 1910;
   because Jews were traditionally tailors.  adj. Jewish.
   1922: "Yuh Sheeny bum, yuh!" O'Neill, _Hairy Ape, 7.
 
I doubt that the first person you mention would use this
word to describe himself if he knew how offensive it is.

Alex Lange
From: plp1@Ra.MsState.Edu (pat parker)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: log in to vs. log into
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:48:31 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:

>I always "log on to" a computer. Sorry to put another choice in there for
>you...

here's another choice...

I "login at" a site
or
I "login on" a computer

pat
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: What is a sheeny?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:40:53 GMT

A 'shayner yidl' is a 'shayna maidl' only if female.

L'Shana tovah, y'all.

--bayla
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: koepp@cc1.unt.edu (Cynthia Koepp - Computing Center)
Subject: log in to vs. log into
Organization: Computing Center, UNT
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:03:07 GMT

Hi. This is my first posting to your group.

Does one "log into" a computer or "log in to" a computer? I had always gone 
with the latter, but now I am not so sure.

Thanks for any insight.

Cynthia Koepp
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: key@mcnc.org (Kathy E. Yount)
Subject: Miscellaneous items
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:44:56 GMT


1.  According to the McGraw_Hill College Handbook, foreign
    words should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
    Raison d'etre is specifically cited as being pretentious.
    You should probably consider whether or not your audience
    will know its meaning before using it.

2.  There is a company in Florida (I think) that will search
    for out-of-print books.  It's rather expensive so I would
    only consider it as a last source.  The number is
    (813) 796-5855.  I don't know anything about the company--
    I got the number from my local bookstore.

3.  I keep seeing "IMHO" in postings to this newsgroup.  What
    does that mean?
From: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: nasty words
Date: 30 Sep 1992 13:25:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Nico Tranquilli () says:

>I would like to be more active on alt.sex, but infortunately I've a very
>limited dictionary. Can anyone post a list of dirty words ?
>

Join the Marines.  In four years you'll be able to be the group's moderator.
:^)  ;^)  :^)
-- 
RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: phil@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Is "meaningfully" a word?
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:13:17 GMT
Reply-To: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au

A really simple question, and the subject says it all.

Is "meaningfully" a word?

I have checked several dictionarys but I cannot find it.



Thanks in advance,
Phil.

--
   _-_|\    Phil Kernick                        "Sleep all day,
  /     \   University of Adelaide               Party all night,
  \_.-*_/   E-Mail: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au    It's fun to be a
       v    Phone:  +61 8 228 5914               Vampire!"
From: eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: MORE LIKE?
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:14:14 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Sep30.150209.126936@watson.ibm.com>, yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
> 
>  "We believe it would be more
>  like trying to fly a jumbo jet by letting everybody on board operate the
>  controls at the same time."
> 
> Is the phrase "more like" considered proper in the English language?

It depends on the preceding sentence.  I'm quite happy with the construct:

   "He said it would be like X.  We believe it would be more like Y."

-- 
Peter Moylan                      eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Re: Is "meaningfully" a word?
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 16:50:42 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <57560039@hpscit.sc.hp.com> fish@hpscit.sc.hp.com (John Fisher) writes:
>phil@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick) writes:
>
>>Is "meaningfully" a word?
>>
>>I have checked several dictionarys but I cannot find it.
>>
>>Phil.
>
According to Webster's dictionary, "meaningfully" is an adverb.

meaningful (aj)
DEFINITIONS:
1   having a meaning or purpose < work a 
    experience>
2   having an assigned function in a language
    system < propositions>
meaningfully (av)
meaningfulness (n)
(c) G. & C. Merriam
	 

-- 
Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Request for recommendations for DOS Grammar programs
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:04:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject line says it all.
I have the need for a grammar checking program for DOS.
Can can anyone provide any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

--tony
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Subject: Re: log in to vs. log into
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:45:26 GMT

In article <1a7q5lINN43m@bigboote.WPI.EDU> padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:
>In article <koepp.6.717699787@cc1.unt.edu> koepp@cc1.unt.edu (Cynthia Koepp - Computing Center) writes:
>
>>Does one "log into" a computer or "log in to" a computer? I had always gone 
>>with the latter, but now I am not so sure.
>
>I always "log on to" a computer. Sorry to put another choice in there for
>you...

	Or you could "login to" or "logon to" a computer, perhaps, since my
computer asks me to "logoff" and others ask me to "logout".

--lizalee




--
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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: re:  Clean your clock
From: imd@otago.ac.nz
Date: 4 Oct 92 10:39:50 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <Sep.25.09.04.25.1992.14091@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, rarosenb@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Robert Rosenberg) writes:
> 
> According to Hugh Rawson's _Wicked Words_, *clean [one's] clock,*
> meaning "to defeat thoroughly, often expressed as a threat . . . apparently
> originated in railroading, where -clean the clock- means to stop
> suddenly, causing the needle on the air brake gauge to drop back to
> zero."  He also mentions the equivalent, agriculturally based "clean [one's] 
> plow."

Well, this surprised me. Before reading this post I would suggested that the
phrase is likely to originate from the slang of London's East End. I think I
assumed that to clean one's clck was a euphemism for smashing somebody's face
in, (the 'face' of the clock you see). I also had a vaague feeling it is
similarly related to an expression such as "wipe the smile off you dial" for
the same reasons. However, I wouldn't want to assert this in the face (clock?)
of an apparently authoritative reference.

Was the orginal reference from a British or American source? If the former then
I think the railroading origin is pretty unlikely.

(PS Pardon the typos - I can't figure out this editor).

Ian Douthwaite
University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand
From: rhemler@ems.cdc.com (Bob Hemler)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: What is a sheeny?
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:25:03 GMT
Reply-To: rhemler@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC


	Twice in the past week I heard the word "sheeny" (sp?).
	I couldn't find the word in my dictionary.  The first person
	using it was calling himself a sheeny because of his great
	skill at bartering and deal-making.  (You can get 15,000 fish
	hooks from him if you have something good to trade.)  The 
	second reference was on Minnesota Public Radio in a story
	about anti-Semitism in Minneapolis.  "Sheeny" was used as an 
	insulting name for a Jewish person.  If you know more about
	this word, I'd love to hear it.  Thanks.

	Bob Hemler
From: fish@hpscit.sc.hp.com (John Fisher)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:53:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Is "meaningfully" a word?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english

phil@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick) writes:

>Is "meaningfully" a word?
>
>I have checked several dictionarys but I cannot find it.
>
>Phil.

From Webster's New World Dictionary, Third College Edition:
"mean*ing*ful adj. full of meaning; having significance or purpose."


John Fisher at Hewlett-Packard |
in Santa Clara, CA             |  This is as bad as it can get,
fish@sc.hp.com                 |  but don't bet on it.
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: Origin of SO
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:00:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.170913.14192@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>
>My guess is that the term originally arose as a bit of academic-
>sociology jargon--possibly the late 1950's to 1960's--out of the
>social-psych interactionalist perspective.

I had always heard that it came from the context of an office party invitation:
"Please, no guests.  Only spouses or significant others"  (i.e. people other
than your spouse who were significant ;-)


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: yhsim@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Help to improve English!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:13:11 -0600
Reply-To: yhsim@memstvx1.memst.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

Hi!

	My name is Richard Sim.  I am a foreign student in Memphis State

	I am seeking a volunteer to help me improve my English.  Please
reply me directly to YHSIM@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU   I have been in the States
for four years, but seems no improvement in my English.  I would be regret
for the rest of my life if I did get my English straight while I am here.

	Hope to hear from anyone!!

Richard Sim

University majoring in Electrical Engineering.

Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Re: cockney slang
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 01:41:02 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Oct5.041233.3379@epas.toronto.edu> dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow) writes:
>
>Does anyone have any recommendations for source books which might have
>lists of cockney rhyming slang expressions and their meanings? I would
>appreciate any titles you could supply.
>
>

I asked a similar question a while ago and the following is the 
answer that I received:  (Many thanks to the author of the answer.)



I have a treasured facsimile copy of the "Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue",
which was first published in the 1820's.  (I think - I don't have a lot of use
for 19th c English in my work, so I keep it at home.)  Mine is a relatively
modern (by which I mean within the last 40 years) paperback copy.  The
Dictionary covers London English of the time, which also includes thieves'
cant, and several other bits and pieces as well as Cockney.  To an Australian
it is perfectly fascinating, because there are a whole bunch of words in it
which seem to have vanished from all other English dialects except our own.
Examples?  Oh, come on, I've already said the book isn't here with me.

Oh, you meant _modern_ Cockney?  Sorry, no idea.  Anyone else know?  I'd like
to know too.
-- 
Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state