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From: robcruic@intacc.uucp (Robert Cruickshank)
Subject: Re: Scratching that litter 'til the cows come home...
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:36:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS


Here's a partial solution to endless nocturnal litter scratching: put a
scatching post right outside the litter box- this worked for me- while it
isn't totally silent, it's a lot less annoying than the litter.

----rob
----
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Rob Cruickshank
robcruic@intacc.uucp
Inter/Access Artists' Center
Matrix BBS
Toronto, Canada
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From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Diarrhea
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:47:28 GMT
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC

In article 714850782@exu.ericsson.se, exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>In article <ardie.54@UIUC> ardie@UIUC (Richard D. McClary) writes:
>>     I have a female kitten, about 5 months old.  She has recurring 
>>diarrhea - very watery (sp?).  The vet says she is totally asymptomatic and 
>>right-on for growth and development and doesn't understand the diarrhea.  He 
>>gave her a shot about 3 weeks ago (to slow down her intestinal function) and 
>>put her on a combination antibiotic/peristalsis-slower, which worked until 
>>about a week after the last pill.  Any ideas?  (Yes, stool samples have been 
>>analyzed.  She is also flatulent on occasions.)
>
>Diet?

Or perhaps a kitten thing that she will grow out of.  I have two
kittens (almost a year old now).  Both were flatulent up until about
7-8 months of age and one had chronic mild to very watery diarrhea.
They were 3 months old when I got them and for the next 5 months I
tried different diets (all dry, all wet, partial dry/partial wet,
different brands, etc.) and nothing seemed to effect this cat.  Also
had no worms or anything else that could be detected (by the vet).
Finally around the 8th month it stopped.  So perhaps it was just an
immature digestive system that finally caught up?

---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ellene@microsoft.com (Ellen Mitsue Eades)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 25 Aug 92 00:59:08 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Aug22.205801.9473@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> kjenks@krakatoa.uucp (Kenneth C. Jenks [GM2] 483-4368) writes:
>The front paws turned under, no visible back paws, tail curled close
>position in short hair cats is the meatloaf position, in long
>haired cats, its the hovercat position.

I call it "brooding," as in what hens do when they sit on eggs.

Muffy mentioned "toastering," the act of going straight up in the air
like toast out of a toaster.  When my roommate Lise got a Siamese
kitten, he did that rather a lot and we made jokes about toasters.  
Her girlfriend wryly requested that we name him anything but Toaster, 
so we named him Poptart.

Ellen Eades
-- 
Ellen Eades					Microsoft Corporation
"Just call me F.G.M.  I hate excess verbiage."  _Twice Upon a Time_
Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:10421 ca.wanted:1155 ba.market.misc:6643 rec.gardens:6333
From: trish@isl.Stanford.EDU (Patricia Halloran)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,ca.wanted,ba.market.misc,su.market,rec.gardens
Subject: ** HURRICANE ANDREW -- PETS NEED HELP **
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:31:54 GMT
Organization: Stanford University


   **Forwarded msg follows - please pass on to bboards in your area**
--------------------------------------
  >Subject: Re: Hurricane Canine Aid

  > In article <19841@drutx.ATT.COM  > bru@druwy.ATT.COM (BrueningBI) writes:
  >
  >One way YOU can help the dogs who have suffered due to
  >Hurricane Andrew is to donate to the
  >
  >Greater Miami Dog Club
  > Hurricane Relief Fund
  >c/o Thomas Miller
  >1499 West 83rd St
  >Hialeah FL 33014
  >
  >All donations marked for Hurricane relief will be used
  >for that purpose. Many animals are homeless and in need
  >of vet care. Major dog food companies are supplying
  >food but they will not cover the costs of care for these
  >animals. Please help our less fortunate friends.
  >
  >
  >                        Brenda Bruening      bru@druwy.ATT.COM
  >                          Boulder CO.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: When are kittens too young?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:15:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.142534.23010@linus.mitre.org> pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.043556.22940@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Michael.Gunderson@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Michael Gunderson) writes:
>> 
>>   My brother was recently subjected to emotional blackmail in order to get
>> him to accept some kittens (i.e. either YOU take them or krrrrrrrk!). Anyway,
>> these kittens are approximately 4 weeks old.  Not that he had much choice,
>> but is this too soon for the kittens to be removed from their mother?  If so,
>> what can be done to aleviate the problems they may have?
>> 
>That is much too early.  If reuniting them with their mother is not an option,
>you must assume moms role.  They need a kitten supplement - ask a vet or visit
>you local pet store.  You may need a nursing bottle depending on their age,
>they may be not weaned and able to eat kitten food.  Try canned kitten food or
>wet the dry stuff and mush it up.  We had a 4 week old and it had to be
>dropper feed every 2 hours.  My husb and took it to work with him and we
>took shifts caring for it during the night.  She almost died but with our
>loving care, she is a fine, healthy 2 year old now.  You might have to teach
>them how to bath and use a litter box.  Our kitten did not know how to bathe
>so we had to wash her face after she ate and tend to her other personal
>hygiene and teach her how to do it.  I suggest you buy a book on caring for
>young or abandoned kittens.

Yep - same thing I had to do with Timmy (also now 2).  The vet even
showed me how to stimulate him to empty his bladder.  Warm, wet cotton
ball substituted for mama's tongue.  Younguns this small are a lot
of work.  I happened to have an unemployed friend at the time that
came and took care of the tyke while I was at work...Timmy also had
a really bad cold, so he needed antibiotics, eye ointment, bottle
feeding, dietary suppliments...but it was all worth it!!!

Good luck.

Debbie
Calli, Cissy, and Timmy my miracle baby


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gittel@nynexst.com (Kathleen Gittel)
Subject: Israel flight
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:03:28 GMT

My friend is flying back to her home in Haifa, Israel.  She is taking with her, a nine week
old kitten.  How should she transport the itten(carrier under seat vs cargo) and what
airlines should she be considering?  How is El Al ?

thanks

Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Subject: The latest addition to our household
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:44:37 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.


Bast now has a new roommate!  My husband's brother and his wife moved
with their cat, Felix, to Houston, but discovered when they got there
that the flea problem was insurmountable.  In spite of dips, powders,
potions, and numerous trips to the vet, Felix was so badly bitten that
he'd lost all the hair on his belly.  He also had a bout of worms, and
was generally miserable.  I guess that some cats are extremely allergic 
to flea bites (anybody else have any experience with this?)  So, they 
sent him back here to Denver.  He made the flight nicely, and, in his 
usual style, was calm after only a couple of hours in a quiet room by 
himself.  He's a delightful fellow - an enormous grey tabby with a sweet 
and loving disposition.  So now, a couple of questions:

1. Felix went to the vet right before he went to the airport, and was
pronounced, for the moment, flea-free.  But of course he's still missing
all that fur.  He's scratching some, and seems to groom alot more than
normal.  How can we tell if that's just something that will improve as
he heals or if he still has (shudder) more fleas?  I don't see the signs
described in the FAQ but he _is_ still scratching.

2. Bast, our small female jellicle, has sort of adapted after almost a week
with Felix.  She will sleep on my pillow and allow Felix to occupy the 
space by my husband's feet.  He's definitely the dominant cat, since he's
so huge, but what's the chance that two adults (they're both about 8 years 
old) can actually learn to be friends?

-- 
Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com)            < |/
Evolving Systems, Inc.                         :o<)
Denver, Colorado                              < |\
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart)
Subject: Re: Playing with kitties face: was "naming behaviors"
Keywords: messing with kitty
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:57:15 GMT

In article <1343@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro) writes:
...
>        We take the face in our hands, and then push the ears
>        flat against the head: kind of striaght down.  This is
>        "Yoda"
>
[description of other cruel mutilations of kittens deleted :-)]
>
>        Sounds cruel, but we're really being very gentle and the
>        cats think we've just forgotten how to pet them right!
>        We laugh and laugh...my husband couldn't believe it when
>        I first showed him all of the animals (and Yoda, of course)
>        inside our kittens!)
>
>        Elizabeth
>
Has anyone ever seen a book titled (something like) How to Give Your Cat
a Massage, written (according to the book) by Alice of Alice's Restaurant
fame?  I laughed out loud when I read it, which I don't do very often!
This post reminded me of some "steps" in the book.

Tom


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Cat introductions
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:42:16 GMT

Are TM and Boing! by any chance, spayed?  Perhaps the cat hierarchy
"undoctored"/doctored, female/male overpowered their territorial
instinct.  My recently deceased cat Tazi, a Sable Burmese spayed
female, was introduced to a 8 wk. old male kitten and basically
ran away from it and avoided the little thing as much as possible. 
Her companion Bali, however, (Sable Burmese neutered male) took it
upon himself to teach the little one some rules, a la drill sergeant
style, or Three Stooges style, whatever.  

Face it, cats are just damn weird sometimes.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bonns@circus.Camex.COM (Bonnie Evaschuk)
Subject: Re: Food for FUS cats
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:39:32 EDT

>>] what other people feed their cats with FUS. What brand? is it wet
>>] or dry? Other supplements?
>>

I have a male cat who was diagnosed with FUS. The vet prescribed Hill's
S/D originally, which was tough since our other cat could not eat it. Then
after the infection cleared up, he was to go on Hill's C/D which both cat's
could eat. 

After learning the price of this prescription food, I went to my local pet
store and checked on some labels. I found that Hill's Science Diet also
makes a non-prescription food that only differs by approx. 2% on a couple
of ingredients and my boys have been eating this without a problem for
approximately a year now. It is called Hill's Maintenence Light and it
comes in a pink bag.

Hope this helps! 

bonns

P.S. Also, if you decide to go this route, be sure to wean them onto
this new food!
From: emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:27:37 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<ERICJ.92Aug21134729@lagos.cfsat.Honeywell.COM>
<1992Aug21.170442.3650@vax.muskingum.edu>
<1992Aug24.165655.8982@hemlock.cray.com>
Reply-To: emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH
Keywords: 

In article <1992Aug24.165655.8982@hemlock.cray.com> jill@cray.com (Jill
McAllister) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.170442.3650@vax.muskingum.edu>
geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
>>>    "sitting like a bug".
>>> 
>>> "quadriplegic cat" 
>>
>>I thought everyone called this "the meatloaf" :-)
>>-- 
>At our house it's called "the hen."
>

        And we call it "hatching an egg"...for the same reasons, I
        suppose:  it looks like they have something underneath that
        they want to hatch/keep warm.

        and:

        "Being elves" (or being an elf, for an only kitty): this is
        when they stretch up against something to look around...with their 
        heads way up...looking curiously around to see who is about...and
        their bodies long because they are standing on their hind legs.
        It looks to me like they aren't kitties, but benevolent elves,
        wondering who to lay a nice spell on!

        I wish I could draw on this thing: I'd make a picture of my
        kitties against the window ledge, looking out!

        We call the position with the legs extended in back (lying
        stretched out) "Frog legs"...looks like you could chop them
        off and eat them, fried!  (Along with the eggs you've gotten
        from the other guy who's hatching his!)

        Elizabeth

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: New kitties (WAS Re: kitties have to be siblings?)
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:14:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.202235.830@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (I wrote:
>I was just adopted by two kittens that I got from the Shelter, and they
>are not siblings. But they get along *wonderfully*. They sleep together,
>groom each other and play with each other. Now if I can only come up
>with names for them. Let me introduce them to the net. One is a 10 week
>calico (female of course) polydactyl, the other is an 8 week female brown
>tabby terror. 
>[Etc.]
>

Well my girls have finally earned names... The envelope please...

  Tribble - From the Star Trek episode "The Trouble With Tribbles" 
Not original but it fits like a glove. She's the now 9 week old
brown tabby who is scared of her own shadow and meows alot. She 
definitely will be a trouble maker. Besides, she looks like a
tribble.

  Hobbit - Let's face it, she looks like a hobbit. She's the now
11 week old calico polydactyl and has the sweetest disposition
ever. Too bad I have to give her Amoxi-drops twice a day for her
cold she got from the shelter. 

This is the first time I've raised cats from kittenhood, and am
enjoying every minute of being a "mommy".
One question - Has anyone tried mixing several different brands of
dry kitten foods together and feeding them that way? So far I've
fed them Iams, Purina Kitten chow, and 2 other brands whose names
escape me right now. I was wondering if it would be OK to mix them 
all together. 

Steve, who now has cat toys all over the house.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 1992 13:22:08 -0400 
From: Janviere S Thuman <jt3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Forever puking cat...

One of my cats (Gabrielle) had the same problem. I asked my vet and he
suggested that I rub an ointment on her paws. Supposedly, the fur from
her licking herself was clogging her up and she was trying to "puke" out
the fur balls and in turn, was also puking up her food. This oinment (I
forgot what it is called) worked to loosen her passages and the problem
stopped. I put it on her paws at least once a week. Someone else may
know what it the stuff is called, but it worked great! (and she really
liked the way it tasted!)
Just a sug!
Shellie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Keywords: I'm in shock.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:56:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.161619.14164@PA.dec.com> thatte@dinosaur.pa.dec.com (Anjan
a Thatte) writes:
>I've been a lurker for some time now, but your post has finally prompted
>me to write.  I'm so sorry for your loss.  Consider yourself hugged.  I
>know that my baby (Murphy the Bold) will be getting extra tuna tonight...
>
>Anjana Thatte (and Murphy too!)

I'm sorry to have deleted the Thomasina Goodbye posting.  Would someone be
so kind as to repost it, or perhaps email it to me?  Thanks, ...and I'm
preparing myself for, I guess, a sad account of the loss of one of our
furry friends.

JH/Ohio State Univ/Horticulture
jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat doesn't trust children
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:30:03 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <2487@cronos.metaphor.com>, pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) writes:
> My cat Tara, a middle-aged (7.5 years) Siamese-Balinese mix, has always
> had this mistrust of children that borders on mortal terror sometimes.
> I am pretty sure that she never had any bad experiences with kids.
> There's just something about them that scares her.
> 
> What makes it especially weird is that with my wife and I she is 
> exceptionally trusting.  For example, she will let me comb and groom
> her even when it is not comfortable.  I believe she allows this because
> she knows she can "tell" me when it hurts.  Also, she will let us carry
> her in all sorts of positions without getting tense.
> 
> With other adults she seems to make a judgement about whether they
> are "cat people" or not (usually quite correctly) and either avoid
> them or seek out a new sucker to fawn over her.  But with kids, she
> never seems to quite trust them.  I don't know if it their vocal 
> qualities, their mannerisms, their size or what.  This last weekend
> I had a guest who had two kids.  Even though these kids had cats,
> liked cats and never tried to be rough with Tara, she clearly did
> not enjoy them being around.  She would come in the house from 
> outside, notice that they were still around and just turn around
> and go back out!  Eventually, she allowed a few short petting 
> strokes, but that was all. Who knows what goes on in her little 
> cat brain!
> 
> In a related topic, I think it is because you must win a cat's trust
> through your interactions with them that makes one's relationships
> with their own cats so special.
> 
> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> 
>    Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
>    Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
>    Mountain View, CA

Cats have a sixth sense about what is, or is not dangerous to them...
My two cats are usually all over any strangers who come to visit, but the
one time I invited poeple with kids, they made themselves scarce for most
of the evening.  The kids were not impressed.

Gabor.
Daddy to the invisible cats:  Moustache & Pippin

-- 
    g  b    gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca   "Ye canna change th' laws of physic,
gggg   b    Victoria, B. C.	       Laws of physics"
g  g t b    (God's waiting room)       Ye canna change th' laws of physic, Jim"
ggggtttbbbb  							The Firm
   g t b  b 		"Am I the witness, or am I the crime
g  g t bbbb		 A victim of history, or just a sign of the times"
gggg  tt        				J. Clegg
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: loel@bluemoon.rn.com (Loel Larzelere)
Subject: Re: Driving x-country w/ Cat.  Suggestions?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 17:05:05 EDT

sauer@bluemoon.rn.com (John Tipshus) writes:

> My 1.5 year old Nemisis female tabby will be with me while I drive 1,500 
> miles cross country.  During short travel she freaks out completely.  Are 
> there any suggestions before and during this journey?  

I drove from SoCal to Ohio in the 70's with four cats.  Get a largish
cage, with a pull out pan from underneath.  Litter and whatnot will
go everywhere.  Keep the water fresh.  Your cat will tend to yowl in
shifts, then lie down and take a nap (if it's at all like the four I 
had).

Oh yeah -- dry cat food.

FWIW, my four yowled in shifts, and never all together.  Reminded me of 
union shop ...


Loel H. Larzelere -- loel@bluemoon.rn.com

"I just want to be remembered for two simple words --
        -- Any two as long as they are simple."
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Playing with kitties face: was "naming behaviors"
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:59:50 GMT

emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro) writes:
: 
:         OK, have any of you out of there played with your kitty's
:         face?
: 
I used to do this to my white blue/yellow odd-eyed cat Circe. I would
sweep her face back with my hands, covering the ears. This produced ...

The Baby Harp Seal!


Kathy
From: judyb@waldo.asd.sgi.com (Judy Bergwerk)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Antlers
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:11:28 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Aug31.192755.14187@a.cs.okstate.edu>,
hamon@a.cs.okstate.edu (HAMON SHARON ANN) writes:
|> Has anyone seen these?  They are soft reindeer antlers attached to
|> a
|> piece of cloth with a strap that goes under the cat's chin.  Saw
|> them
|> in a McCrory's the other day.  Cute, but what cat would actually
|> put
|> up with wearing them?  And in what circumstances would an owner
|> actually
|> want their cat to wear them?  Comments, anyone?
|> 
|> Sharon


I had some friends who made a set for their cat Sluggo.  They took
photos of him flying through the air, and pasted them onto a card with
a hand drawn skyline for Christmas cards.

A rather sporting cat.  He did run away everytime he heard velcro!

Judy
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:50:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1992Sep3.132704.1817@novell.com> mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda  
Taylor) writes:
I guess I'm mostly a lurker....but there are those of you who
have seen me sign off with "Mom-cat to Rio-the-LOUD and 
Thomasina-the-cute".

Last night at 11:00 Thomasina began having moderate problems
breath so I called the Emergency Clinic who said to bring 
her in if she got any worse or was running a fever.  As soon
as I tried to take her temp. she collapsed and began choking.

I rushed her to the vets who said it was major bad news.
A undetected cardiac problem, he didn't know if she would
make it through the night.  He put her on oxygen and a 
VERY slow i.v. (her lungs were *full* of fluid).  She perked
up enough to purr when I gave her a good cuddle prior to 
going home to try and get some rest....and to wait.... They
had me sign a authorization to put her down if it got too 
bad.  An hour later I got the call.  My little girl had had
a rapid decline and was not going to make it.  She was
suffering too much to wait for me to drive across town to
be there for her so I told the vet to give her a hug and
tell her what a GOOD girl she always was and then I said
a prayer and asked that two of my other cats (Cindy and
Kiran) meet her at the gate.

She was only two and gave me sooooo much.  She'll never
>ollow me into the bathroom to protect me from the bath
tub again or save me from the man eating rubber snake.

I have to go now....it's time to stop crying before 
some one at work freaks out.  There was just no
warning.  From the time she started having problems
to the end was only 2.5 hours.

Time for a net *hug* folks, I just moved here and don't
have any friends yet.

M'Linda


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