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From: Metin_Savignano@turttwo.tynet.sub.org (Metin Savignano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Help - 50 Hz flickers
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:54:28 GMT
Organization: TurtleSystems II, Stuttgart FRG

In a message dated Fri 24 Jul 92  7:00, Po87553@cs.tut.fi (pasi 'Albert' Oj
wrote:

>it's PAL, so it's 50 Hz, so it flickers! What can I do?

 PAO> If it is 50Hz, it does not flicker.. But as everybody knows, it is
 PAO> 25Hz. :-)

Well, I obviously forgot to mention that I do have a flicker fixer, so it
*is* 50 Hz. And it does flicker! :-(

>The best solution for me would be a flicker fixer that outputs 70 or 80
Hz,

 PAO> Flicker fixer outputs twice the in frequency, that is 50Hz or 60Hz.
 PAO> I have A2320 in my A500 (who says that A500 can't have a video slot
 PAO> :-)
 PAO> and the display is solid as a rock.

Maybe you are using different colors than I do. Maybe you are using a
different monitor than I do (some reduce flickering because they emit the
light a bit longer than others - don't know the term in English :-). Maybe
you are just not as sensitive as I am (in that regard at least :-).

>I intended to change to NTSC to obtain at least 60 Hz, but it doesn't work

 PAO> NTSC is 30Hz interlaces as PAL is 25Hz. It does reduce the flicker
 PAO> without
 PAO> a flicker-fixer though.

>I won't get the NTSC modes in the Screenmode
>editor. I always thought PAL/NTSC mode was controlled by Agnus solely?

 PAO> Yes it is, but if a program does not ask for NTSC mode, it will get
 PAO> a PAL-
 PAO> mode screen. And you might have done something wrong too.. :-)

In the meantime I found out how to switch to NTSC. Yet, it was tricky, and
still I guess there is something wrong in the WB2.0 software. It seems to
me it checks for the ECS Denise, though it's not really needed for
PAL/NTSC. I am now using a hack called SetDefaultMonitor (there are many
others, too) which makes all programs think they're running on a real NTSC
Amiga and thus makes them open a NTSC screen. :-) As far as I could see
from the docs, it emulates the motherboard jumper.

>Please help me, if you can, 'cause I can't stand that 50 Hz flickering any
>longer!

 PAO> 50Hz doesn't flicker here, but you just might be an extraterrestial
 PAO> being..

See above. Colors, monitors, and last not least users differ enormously!
:-)


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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape SCSI medium error (HardFrame/Viper)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:47:35 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul28.160159.18890@walter.cray.com>
  <1992Jul29.145011.153733@zeus.calpoly.edu>
  <1992Jul29.115906.29219@walter.cray.com>

Price Club (I think they're "kind of" nationwide) offers Sony 6150
tapes for around $17 each.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com>
Subject: Re: A1000 ECS ?
Originator: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:16:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.164904.18032@ms.uky.edu> kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:
>I have a rejuvenater, and Expert Services (606-371-9690) is selling
>ECS Denisae for it.  The board came with an ECS Agnus and my one meg
>of chip works just fine.
>
>Now, thanks to my not paying attention to all this ECS stuff, I
>need to know:
>
>1)	Is the ECS Denise an improvement over the original if one
>	sticks with a standard NTSC monitor (A1080)?

You'll be able to use Super-Hires mode, so the pixels will be even more
squished (tall and skinny) than they are in Hires.  Other modes require
a multi-scanning monitor.

>2)	What does the ECS Paula give you over the original?

Don't know.  As far as I know, it doesn't exist.

>3)	I understand that if I uprade the rejuvenater to two megs of
>	chip I'd need a 2-meg agnus.  Are there separate 1- and 2-meg
>	ECS Denises and Paulas?  Will the original chips address 
>	two megs?

There's only one ECS Denise (required for the new Super-Hires and
Productivity/VGA video modes, and the new Genlock capabilites.)  Agnus
does *all* the Chip Ram addressing, Denise and Paula have no idea about
the size of Chip Ram.  Agnus just hands them the data.

>Kenneth Herron                                           kherron@ms.uky.edu

-hans
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From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Problem with ST296N...8 LED Flashes
Keywords: 8 LED flashes...
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:35:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: walter.1992Jul21.073507.17584
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.


    I have a dead ST296N.  When I power up the drive the LED flashes 8
 times.  Does anyone know what 8 flashes mean?  The drive was working but
 I was getting R/W errors.  While I was copying the files to another HD
 DirectoryOpus came back and said "File not of required type".  What?  
 You're copying a file, what do you care!  Well I thought that there was
 a lock one the files so I rebooted the machine.  Now all the files were
 gone but the drive reported the correct "space remaining".  I rebooted 
 again and the drive didn't come up and the LED started its flashing.  So
 does anyone know what the 8 flashes mean?



    Daniel Baehr
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From: pochanay@cae.wisc.edu (Adisak Pochanayon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 68040 and AMAX
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:06:21 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


   Quicky question.  I have a Fusion Forty 68040.  Is Amax II compatible with it??
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala)
Subject: Re: HELP: WB windows freeze until disket change !
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:37:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.052704.16443@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>In article <92209.104315PROHVK38@TREARN.BITNET> Cem Turgay <PROHVK38@TREARN.BITNET> writes:
>>driver button once. The screen and inputs works after this but
>>until next click. This happened after every 1-3 opening of the drawers.
>
>Put C:SetPatch back in your s:Startup-sequence and leave it there!
>C= know why they put it there.

>	|   Peter Urbanec    s1013734@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au   |

Sorry, it has nothing to do with SetPatch.. The problem is:
TADAA! faulty CIA .. If you exchange them, you have a faulty system time..

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From: b9p@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: $64000 Question: 1meg Agnes hack forA500?
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:41:38 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Well, it's time - I've ordered my 1 meg Fatter Agnes
(from Grapevine - pray for me!)

Anyway, what's the deal with increasing my CHIP RAM to 1meg?

Do I just plug in the new Agnes, or do I have to cut some trace or
something?  I have a Rev. 5 motherboard, if that matters any.

As well, I've seen certain hacks decribing how to build a PAL/NTSC
switch. Is it true that I could use one of the many PD programs to
switch modes? The switch, I assume, is just a convenience?  

I imagine the instructions and/or answers to my questions are on some archive
site somewhere - feel free to direct me there if you don't want to get too
verbose.

Thanks,
Aaron

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: kamran@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Kamran Vaziri)
Subject: Problems connecting at 14.4k
Organization: Dialogic Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:12:09 GMT

Hi folks!  I bought a Supra v32bis modem and I have a regular old A500.  I'm
having problems connecting at 14.4k rate with other v32bis modems.  Seems that
I can connect but I loose data constantly.  I guess the 7mhz 68000 just can't
keep up.  I heard something about a better serial.device available for WB1.3
that helps with this problem.  Can anyone confirm this and maybe email it to me?
Or will I be stuck having to stick an AdSpeed or something in it?

Thanks!

Phone: eves (908) 580-1526
       days (201) 334-1268 ext 186
   ///
  ///Kam
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"You cross a lawyer with the Godfather baby,
 make you an offer that you can't understand..." - Don Henley :)
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How does DCTV work ?????
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:28:43 GMT

In article <l70j6oINN6si@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> levi@galoob.cs.utk.edu (David Levi)  
writes:
> Try
> drawing a solid sphere of any color on a black background, and look at it's  
edges.  You don't get well defined edges, instead you get a fade from black to  
the
> color of the sphere.  You also can't really see individual pixels.

Actually the edges are remarkably sharp on the RGB
(encoded) screen.  If you were to set just one pixel, it
would only change a few of its neighbors to the left and
right.  You can make plotting even more local, but it
introduces some "gritty" chroma artifacts.  For some
uses, it's fine, and it's a lot faster. 

(You could see the effect a lot better if Digital
Creations had used a different palette.  I prefer one that
spreads the colors out more so I can see what's going on
better.) 

If you look at the screen as a lores screen (which is fairly
accurate since the samples take two hires pixels (but
they're staggered, so that's not completely obvious)),
you could speak of samples.  Changing one raw sample
changes the encoding of its 6 horizontal neighbors (3 to
each side).  Smells like HAM, but it's not.

This only happens with chroma information.  Luminance
info for a sample is only used in that sample.  Each
sample's 8 bits, but only 160 levels (64-223) are used for
grayscale (you have to have a margin to add color in on top
of that). 

If you could set up a DCTV Screen and then draw on it as if it
were a HIRES 24 bit screen, you'd see some curious
artifacts in the DCTV display (small things would be
colored strangely or bleed), but the RGB encoding is
pretty well localized.  (Of course, since I do this every
day, I am >not< speaking hypothetically. :-) )

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: catapcnl@NeXTWork.Rose-Hulman.Edu. (Chris Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Which accelerator board?
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:20:21 GMT

Distribution: world

I apologize for my previous post, in which my EMail address was incorrect.. It   
is actually "catapcnl@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu".  Oops...
--
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-----------------------------------------------
"Arsenio sucks.  Bad."
 - Chris Lawrence
From: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
	<mwm.1azt@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:59:08 +1200
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <mwm.1azt@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>,
	mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
>In <1992Jul24.153748.23488@hubcap.clemson.edu>, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) wrote:
>> I think that it's a bit early for "2.0-only" major applications.  PD stuff
>> and little utilities, yes.  But not stuff like WP's.
>
>Just out of curiosity, *are* there any "2.0-only" major applications
>yet? The closest I've seen are some applications (I wouldn't call any
>of them "major") that lost features under pre-2.0, or had two
>versions with the same functionality; the 2.0-only one was just
>smaller, faster, and had 3d buttons.  '

I've yet to come across any commerical ones, but I could imagine within the
next 6 months or so when the 2.0 upgrade has been available for over a year
that the base could be big enough to allow this. I don't think there would
be many Amiga developers willing to let sales drop by limiting their base
users at present..


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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: POWERGLOVE
Date: 26 Jul 92 12:38:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.153628.1233@ccad.uiowa.edu>, rromano@ccad.uiowa.edu (Richard A Romano) writes:
> In article <rda732m.711786178@nella5.cc.monash.edu.au> rda732m@nella5.cc.monash.edu.au (J.P. Baker) writes:
>>I have just connected a Mattel Powerglove to my A500, and tried the
>>amigahires.lzh programs for those that know what I am on about.
>>
>>However, No values feed back to the glove, has anyone out there
>>tried this hack and had success, is there some special mode or 
>>something that the glove has to be set into.???????
>>
>>
>>+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>>|  John Baker     => rda732m@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au               |
>>|                                                                 |
>>|  Virtual Reality is total immersion from Reality!               |
>>+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
> 
> What are the best present sources for the Mattel Powerglove.  I heard
> you can get one for about $30- from surplus stores.
> 
> Can anyone give me a name and/or number.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rich
> -- 
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	Would you believe at a garage sale I could have picked up one for $10. 
Yes, ten whole American dollars.  I would've bought it, but I don't know what
it would entail to get it to work with my Amiga.  I would appreciate it if
somebody has one working and would be nice enough to let us other usenetters
know how he or she did it.

	Kyle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Any chance we wills see an EC040 accel?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:42:19 GMT

In <1992Jul22.111917.1460@sarah.albany.edu> tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang) writes:
>Motorola released their EC040 (68EC040, no built in FPU or disabled one from
>intel famed 486SX, and no MMU) some time ago now.  Are any of the accel
>companies (GVP, PP&S, RCS, CSA, IVS, Microbiotics) going to take advantage of 
>this cheap chip as they have with the EC030.  I can see it now:  an accel which
>is 30x faster than a normal 500, costing slightly more than an EC030 board...

>Any manufacturers going to build one of these?  The market could be tremendous!

I wouldn't be so sure.. many people that want 040 speed will need the
good floating point performance as well. A 040/33 outperforms a
DECstation5000/125 in floating point math.

Regards,
-- 
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.hardware:13156 comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:5307
From: bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:54:16 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

OK, while you're quoting me the Comp USA catalog with $80 prices.... why not
look thru the entire computer shopper?
 
Here's a suggestion: buy a $7 multi-io card, call up Startech or National Or TI
and find the distributer nearest you. OR just ask for a sample, straight up. 
Startech sent me one real quick. Tell em you're working on an embedded system 
or something :)   FREE.  Ask for a 16550 UART or a 16552 or whatever will 
do on the typical board. Usually a 16550 is it. They do that so a single-port
card is cheaper but can be upgraded later.

Pop out the old 16450 UART and pop in the new one. Should cost you less than $30
even if you pay for the UART, which should be around $12 or $13 for a 16550.
I've seen them for that price. The 68C554 is $22 in 1-99 qty's. It is 4 ports,
that is a reference on distributer pricing. The dist. I talked to didn't
have a problem with single-unit orders, but there may be a minimum order...
 
Hamilton-Avnet has a minimum order, $50 maybe?
From: Sysop@bearsden.UUCP (Sysop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: ST296N died with LED flashing 8 times
Date: 20 Jul 92 06:10:03 GMT
Organization: The Bear's Den BBS  Eau Claire, WI


    My ST296N Seagate drive died.  When I do a cold powerup the drive LED
flashes 8 times.  Does anyone know what that means?  HELP!!!


     Daniel Baehr


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From: dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  Any chance we wills see an EC040 accel?
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:29:45 GMT
Organization: Dejital Software

In article <1992Jul22.214219.6889@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>I wouldn't be so sure.. many people that want 040 speed will need the
>good floating point performance as well. A 040/33 outperforms a
>DECstation5000/125 in floating point math.

Not to mention that many developers want an MMU to run Enforcer.
Don't come near me with an EC0x0-based accelerator!

--
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From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Recommendations on SCSI controller?
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:35:57 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

I've fried my A2090a, and am now in the market for a new controller.  What's 
important to me is AMAX compatibility, autoboot support, and it would be nice 
if I could add a tape drive in the future.

I don't think I really care if it has RDB support (what's the advantage of no 
mountlist, really?).

I'm currently looking at a TrumpCard 2.1 ($119), an Expansion Systems 
DataFlyer ($90), a GVP A2000+ ($199) and a used A2090a (no real price yet, 
the seller is a real good guy, and just wants what's fair (Hi, Scott!)).

Any opinions on any of these?  Any others that I should consider? (I based my 
selections on what was in stock at my local dealer; I prefer to have a live 
human to yelp to in case it doesn't work, unless there are some significant 
savings.)

My setup includes an 8-up! and a 2088 bridgeboard (although if I got the GVP, 
which includes space for memory expansion, I'd probably transplant the memory 
from the 8-up! to the GVP and sell the 8-up).  My hard disk is a Quantum 
240LPS.  Are there any conflicts in any of these?

What is the going price for a used 2090a?

Any advice appreciated.

Terry Carroll
"Then they came upon The Thing."
From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: MFM Controllers
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:21:34 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

I have two MFM drives hooked to an A500 via an "old technology" SCSI
controller and an Adaptec 4000A SCSI-to-MFM controller.  Works well
*and* lets you add or convert to real SCSI without too much pain and
frustration.

You can have multiple adaptecs, and each one will control 2 MFM drives.

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From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Can ArcNet use Ethernet network? Please HELP!
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:22:35 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Hi all,

	I have a quesion of LAN type cards for the Amiga. How do Arcnet and
Ethernet compare? Can you use an Arcnet card on the ethernet network? 

	The reason that I ask is that I can get an Arcnet card fairly cheap and
would like too if I can use it as part of the network here on campus.

	Any information would really be helpfull.

	Thanks,
	Joshua
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dweinste@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Weinstein)
Subject: Xebec SCSI Controller and 2.04 
Reply-To: dweinste@gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Weinstein)
Organization: Chaos under Glass
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:51:27 GMT

We have an Amiga 1000 ("New To Us" :-) ), with 2.5 meg of memory (mostly
in a MAXImega box), and a Xebec SCSI controller and 20 meg SCSI drive.

The Xebec software is 1.2, (and won't format FFS), but runs just fine
as a formatted drive under 1.3.

Questions:

   (1) Has anyone gotten this controller (it uses a scsi.device driver)
       to format FFS manually? (The supplied software does not do anything
       but OFS, and since it uses its own programs [i.e. scsimount] rather
       than the more recent HDToolBox, I'm not sure if it will format
       from the CLI)

   (2) Are there 1.3 Xebec Disks/Drivers/Etc out there? If so, is it
       legitimate to pass them on, as Xebec seems to have passed into
       the great beyond...

   (3) Has anyone used this under 2.04? Does anyone even know if this
       driver (even if formatted to OFS) will work under 2.04? Since
       the responses I've gotten have been (yes, no, perhaps, probably
       not, probably will, and fifty fifty), I'd prefer to hear from
       someone (anyone?) who is running one of these under 2.04?

Thanks,
  --Dave

[Mail to dweinste@gnu.ai.mit.edu is getting through roughly half the
 time. dweinste@nyx.cs.du.edu is also valid.]


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang)
Subject: Any chance we wills see an EC040 accel?
Reply-To: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:19:17 GMT

Motorola released their EC040 (68EC040, no built in FPU or disabled one from
intel famed 486SX, and no MMU) some time ago now.  Are any of the accel
companies (GVP, PP&S, RCS, CSA, IVS, Microbiotics) going to take advantage of 
this cheap chip as they have with the EC030.  I can see it now:  an accel which
is 30x faster than a normal 500, costing slightly more than an EC030 board...

Any manufacturers going to build one of these?  The market could be tremendous!

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