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From: lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: No Dogs or Chineses
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:39:34 GMT

Tingli Pan wrote:
>The original intention was to take over Honei in around 3 weeks. And
>force Vietnam to withrdraw from Kampuchia.

I doubt this. If China took over Honei, China's buttocks must be kicked
by the Bear. That is also why China did not use airforce and navy. The
scope was very limited for fearing of Bear's intervening.
From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: IMPORTANT (Re: Please post)
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:40:49 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


In article  <01GMYHVX39A8000L11@hkucc.hku.hk> SWMSTUDY@HKUCC.HKU.HK writes:
|Dear netters,
|if any pro-democracy organization (not individuals)
|want to buy the '64' Olympic Stamp issued in China

The central committee of CCP had an emergency meeting and passed a resolution
to ban the production and circulation of this stamp. The announcement of
this decision was set for tomorrow. However, the last minute lobby by some
high-ranking politburo members had Mr. Deng changed his mind to delay the
enforcing of the ban. The reason, ostensively, was to wait for reports of
CCP's oversea agents on the effect of this stamp. But the real reason was
revealed by an anonymous aid to Mr. Deng. The reason was 'money'. Many
relatives of high-ranking politburo members started to stock the stamps
and through connection sold to overseas. The value of the stamp was said
to skyrocket once the ban is announced. It was further revealed that
should the appreciation of value fail to materialize, further measures,
such as imprisonment or decapitation of the designer, will be used to
guarentee the profit on the holding of the stamps. Whan asked how many
stamps his relative has sold, the aid said sheepishly, 'only few hundreds'.

Stay tuned for further development from this misinformation network. 8-).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Re: NBC Commentators talking about China
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:51:44 GMT
X-Posted-From: janus.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul28.073313.31615@eecs.nwu.edu> yuan@saturn.eecs.nwu.edu (Ya-Xiang Yuan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.213259.29797@ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@prometheus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>....
>....
>>
>>A Chinese women swimmer (Zhuang Yong?) was banned from competetion
>
>  Please give details! Which swimmer? banned by which organisation?
>  banned from which competetion? for how long? ....??????
>
>    If you can not remember what you claimed " a few years ago", how
>could I trust what you said about your school time?

What proof?  A video tape?  Sorry I don't have.

I heard and read that hundreds and possibly over a thousand of people were
killed on 6/4/98 in Beijing by PLA.  But, sorry, I don't have a video tape
to show it.

You may say that western journlists have been lying or taken too much
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21264 rec.sport.olympics:1372
From: lan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yan Lan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Proud and Angry
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:54:24 GMT
Organization: UB

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Proud and Angry
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: UB
Keywords: Olympics 




Hi! friends:
 
I have been watching the Olympic Games these days and very proud of Chinese 
Olypians. They did  great job.
 
But I am  so angry about  the local newspaper's comments on the Chinese gold
medalist Zhuang Yong and other Chinese swimmers. they spread rumors that 
Chinese girls must have taken some banned substances to enhance their perfor-
mances. They print a uglified picture of Zhuang Yong and herald  BULK MUSCLES
...STYROID... and something like that.
 
The TV sports commentors' attitude toward Chinese swimmers,divers and gamnasts
also made me upset.This morning they made so much noise about a Amercian girl
and I thought she won the gold medal. But actually she ended up with a bronze
(fortunatlly!). A Japanese girl won the gold, and Chinese LIN LI won the 
silver.
 
What do you think?!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Zhi Cheng Zhu <u9112081@cc.uow.edu.au>
Subject: Mr Liu Ying-Xi,No6 high school 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:17:53 EST

Hi Big Brother !
Where are you........
From: zyou@alcor.usc.edu (Zhongbai You)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Who_care_what_you_think?
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:58:22 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul31.004147.17860@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>In article <l7grelINNg72@alcor.usc.edu> zyou@alcor.usc.edu (Zhongbai You)  
>writes:
>> In article <9207292236.AA07751@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu> xzhu@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu  
>(Xiaowu Zhu) writes:
>> >	Hello netters :
>> >	  Never forget, WE ARE FOREIGNERS HERE.
>> >
>> 
>>    Everybody or his ancestor except native Indians is/was foreigners.
>> This land is yours, don't be too shy.  This is America, every body
    =================
>> basicaly has the equal rights, as long as you know how to keep and 
>> use it.
>> 
>>   Don't discriminate yourself.
>
>
>No! Before you become an American citizen, this country is not yours. 
                                             ========================
    I did not say this "country is yours", I said "the land is yours"
which means you have many rights even if you are not a citizen. At least,
I can complain NBC's coverage.


After you  
>become a U.S. citizen, you should not blame NBC since you are supposed to  
>support your own country.

   Oh yeh?  Just because I should support Dream team, dosen't mean I have
no chance to watch other world class players.  Last night, after US team
won gold medal for man's 4X100 freestyle, there was no coverage whatsoever
of the United teams and Germany team in the awarding ceremony, both world
class player.

   Still remember CNN's coverage in Baghad during Gulf War ? It is very
exciting that you can see both side on the battle ground.

>It is true that most of the people here have ancestors from foreign countries,  
>but as soon as they settled down here, they regarded themself as Americans.

  But they still have some sort of emotion toward their origin, especially
the early generations.
 
>Take it easy my friend.
>
>Frank
From: slbxk@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Chinese Friendship Club
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:14:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



               CHINESE FRIENDSHIP CLUB

                   From the Editor
           -------------------------------


Dear friends,

     We are all far away from home, home town, home city, home
motherland. We each have the same dreams, dreaming about pursuing
a higher degree in education, accomplishing a wonderful task in
our own life, getting a satisfying job, climbing to a higher
class in life... But we feel lonely, terribly lonely, we need
friends, and love. Loneliness is like a killer, threatening us
every friday evening, saturday, sunday, holidays, even in daily
life. Why not let us gather together to get rid of loneliness, to
find ourselves companionship, to enjoy love or friendship! Let's
provide ourselves to the society and meet many people and choose
the one we want to be with, the one we love, but we have not met
yet.

     Good luck to all of you, dear friends!



                                       Editor


     P.S.

     For application form please send inquiring by E-mail.
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: too much lunch -> indigestion -> who-knows-what-will-become-of-it
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:55:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Article 37862 of soc.culture.china:
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)

>No one appreciate your sympathy. Will you appreciate my sympathy
>to you because you wife probably had affair with another guy? Your
>sympathy is not sympathy, but very intruding speculation and
>outrageous illusion. You are a very bad guy.

Article 37866 of soc.culture.china:
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)

>Since you are a submissive guy. Let me give you a suggestion. If you
>go to airport, you should volenteerily not only surrender your baggage
>for check, but take off all your cloth for inspection to show that
>you are innocent.

Article 37846 of soc.culture.china:
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)

>This is outrageous. Since you have never had HIV test, you probably
>have AIDS. Your father is probably a criminal. Your mother is
>probably a prostitute. Your wife probably have had affair with other
>men. You are probably a drug dealer.

Article 37876 of soc.culture.china:
From: lixj@sol.rutgers.edu (Xiao-jian Li)

>BTW, I don't feel I am a god-damned proud Chinese that I have to get
>the logic straight. I just have too much for lunch and
>nothing else to think about:-) 

It is very obvious that Mr. Li had too much lunch.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: shay@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (George Shay)
Subject: Re: Proud and angry
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:47:35 GMT

qy1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Qing Yu) writes:

><fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu> writes:

><After a bad dive, you could read the sadness on her face.  After a good
><dive, you could tell that she was happy with herself.

><The winning diver made technically perfect dives and got out of the
><water looking as if she were a bored robot.  Sure, she won the gold,
><but NBC is an American company broadcasting to America.  It's only
><natural for NBC to concentrate on that which Americans are interested
><in: interesting American competitors.  Relax a little.

>Olympic game is a highly technical competition in sports. It's not a comedy
>show. Also, If I grew up with watching such band-filtered broadcasting, I
>probably would also think that other nations do not know how to smile.

I believe it makes sense for NBC to concentrate on American Athletes, not
on the athletes from the other countries simply because the audience are
americans and *they* care whether the americans win. They do not care
whoever else wins. I did not see a lot of Italian, French, Sweden athletes
on the screen. You see, They have to please the people who watch the games.
People are just that narrow-minded. That reminds me the days when Chinese
women's V-ball team were still in the top edge, the CCTV broadcasted a lot
of games in which Chinese women were, I did not see any V-ball team from
africa on the CCTV screen, did not see any table tennis team from USA or
South America on the CCTV screen.
So you guys just take it easy and enjoy the game.



>Yu Qing



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: u322543@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw
Subject: RE: Learning about World War II in Japan
Organization: Computer Center, NCU, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:33:47 GMT


  What causes the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Yes, it is horrible
 to let the innocent people shoulder the responsibility. Today, most of
 the Japanese think they are the only people suffering in WWII because
 of the nuke. But what had the Japanese army done to the Asian countries? 
 The people killed in Nanking may be more than the sum of the people died 
 in two atomic bombing. Why should Chinese suffer that?
  Let's pay attention to the Japanese government. Had the emperor made
 any apology to Chinese? NOT YET! The authorities even re-wrote the
 history textbooks to cover their invasion. Years ago, one officer,
 Hashimoto Ryutaro (I translate it from Chinese words.), said "There were 
 NOTHING happened in Nanking." (Soon he is called by a famous Japanese
 writer "The Cancer of Human Beings".) 
  Those are the Japanese. They want everyone feels sorry for them but 
 forgets their crime.

 Lai, Yi-Shao
 u322543@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S. (Re: China News)
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:39:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.182524.3626@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
>Wake up, folks, watch out what kind of car China is to buy from U.S.
>before you start celebrating and congratulating on the deal!!

	Well, I have no idea on cars and don't know about the deal 
(especially with what PRICE they are buying the Ford Tempos).  But if it
is a bad deal, I believe part of the blame should go to the pressure on
MFN status China is facing now.

	Remember one of the major incentives to impose conditions on
China's MFN is the trade surplus enjoyed by China??  IFCSS' President has
openly testified to U.S. politicians that China's "trade surplus should be
stopped".  I guess they are achiving something on it now...  Yeah, right!


    Eddie
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re:Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S. (Re: China News)
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:48:36 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul29.210212.13029@> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>Congratulations!
>>
>>Congratulations on what?  Buying out-of-fashion Ford Tempos (see next) ????
>
>>Forwarded to SCC by Bo Xiong in Chicago
....
>Tell you one thing you should always keep in your mind: Western 
>countries are always tring to dump out-of-date to the developing 
>countries, at the same time that they move chemical plants to
>these countries! US is very tough in exporting Hi-Tech products 
>to China, including computers. They dumped a lot of 70s computers 
>to China in late 80s, but in CHEAP PRICES.

Oh come on, the cars are not hi-tech products that are subject to
export restrictions.
From: quanyi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Football news from Finland
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:15:04 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Chinese locomotive teenagefootball group visited Helsinki 2 weeks ago and
has won the championship without losing even one goal in the tournament.
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:22:43 GMT

In article <9524@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> jan@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>In <1992Jul24.041405.21803@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul23.221102.323@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) writes:
>
>I've done that last year. (Well, I don't know whether Newsweek publishes
>in Australia. I turned to a local one.)
>
>When there were about 200 million people in China affected by flood last
>year, there was no mention in TIME (Australia edition). That was the reason
>I stoped my subscription.
>
>Anyway, I don't expect too much from western media, especially on
>information about China. I read mags and newsps from mainland, taiwan,
>HK, as well as western countries, then make my own judgements.
>
>Anyone wants to discuss reading Chinese publications overseas?
>
As I mentioned before, ZhenMing puts mainland Chinese in the bottom of
all the overseas Chinese, what else can you expect from it? I read the
Nineties, at least, it is tolerable. We have limited choice here. The
paper is World Journal, although it is far from satisfaction.

>>>-Ziping Zhang
>
Tingli Pan
>
>Chen Jian


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jsxie@src.umd.edu (Jingshong Xie)
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:33:25 GMT

>"There's no proof; they've never been caught." said Haislett, who finished
>fourth in the 100-meter freestyle with a time of 55.17. "There's been
>speculation and rumors, but until one is caught, there's nothing you can do
>about it."
>
     **** No big deal.Even when someone really was caught,we still can ask
     Beijing People Court overturn the ban decision of Internation Swimming
     Association.Just like Mr. Ronolds Butch did in USA. :-)

          At least from my point,Ms. Zhuang looks much much more like a lady
     than women's 10m platform diving bronze.

          They are jealous,they are finding some excuse for their loss.But at
     the same time,they are damaging other people's reputation.That is the 
     ugly face of human being.
From: liao@milton.u.washington.edu (shiquan liao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Rock Concert in Bejing
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:32:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul22.203244.29880
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Jul21.131049.2006@newstand.syr.edu> polar@top.cis.syr.edu (Polar Humenn) writes:
>Hi,
>I have a couple of questions.  A friend of mine was recently approached
>by the Chinese Government about producing a Rock Concert (stadium style)
>in Bejing.  Before he seriously talks to these guys he wants a little
>backround information.  
>
>1.  Is there enough interest for Western Music to fill a stadium
>    out there.  Or will it be too crazy and get out of hand, ie. 
>    causing the tanks to roll in again.  
>
>2.  Also, what type of music would the, I suppose younger, people would
>    like to see.  The government wants a BIG show.   However, they have
>    absolutely no idea about western music.  Would somebody like Madonna,
>    or Micheal Jackson,  who gets pretty sexual on stage, be shut down?  
>    Would the people prefer "nice guys" like Elton John (who will be on tour)
>    or Billy Joel, or do they want somebody like Bruce Springstein and 
>    John Cougar Mellanchamp screaming red, white, and blue, America.
>
>3.  BIG QUESTION.  If there was to be a Rock Concert in Bejing, where would
>    they have it.  How big is the place(s).
>
>I don't have a lot of information on this, and right now it is just
>an idea brewing, but the government wants to move on this by the end of
>august.
>What are the thoughts out there?  Will this kind of thing fly.
>
>Thanks,
>-Polar     replies to   polar@top.cis.syr.edu
>           discussion to soc.culture.china
>

I watched a piece of news couple of months age here in Seattle. A local band 
(Rock) from Seattle went to China to perform and they were invited by some
organizations in China, however, they never got a chance to perform live in
front of the audience. Because the goverment did not want these Americans
say something that is not welcome by the government, the band was forced to
record their song before each performance and then they did lipsinging during
thr performance. They went all the ways from Beijing to Guangzhou and they
never got a chance to "perform".

The band members were talking about their unique experience of their trip in
China on TV. Just for your information. It will be real nice if your friend
can really get the CHANCE to do so, but I am afriad the same thing will
happen.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:22:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul30.212449.24077@rigel.econ.uga.edu> jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu writes:
>
>You don't even know why, now I feel more sorry for you :-)

I guess you better save the sorry for yourself ;)  It seems that we
don't share the way of value something.  There are lot of other 'fun'
things than selecting a 'fun' used car, like playing go on igs.

By any chance, do you own a laptop with Sun OS?  I with you got more fun
than my 386.

>I guess it really depends on what you want from a car. My criteria
>are "fun" and "interesting". For the price of a new cheapo Saturn-Sentra-
>Carolla, you get endless selections of fun and interesting *matured* cars.
>I don't call them used car, since most of them are just break in.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Subject: Re: Please post
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:31:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.182435.17890@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>In article <01GMYHVX39A8000L11@hkucc.hku.hk> SWMSTUDY@HKUCC.HKU.HK writes:
|>
|>    The runner next to him is number 9, and to his left is number 17.  Stamp
|>dealers note that 1 plus 7 equal 8. By a leap of logic, they say, the numbers
|>identify the year 1989.  None of the other runners have numbers.
|>--------------------------------------------------------------
|
|Come on, don't be silly. Given several numbers, chances are  you
|can get something meaningful if you do some add/minus/mult/division to
|these numbers in a proper way.
|

	What worries me is what will happen to the designer.  He may be
just as innocent on this but still get into trouble by this kind of hype.


    Eddie
From: NBCcommentators@barcelona
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: NBC Commentators' Apology
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:25:03 GMT
Originator: pi@spica.bu.edu

We really feel very guilty for our behavior these days. We do not know 
what had happened. It seems our mouths are out of control. Look at
what we have done:

* We had kept saying that one EUN's female gymnast got a three-bedroom
  apartment for her family who used to have only one-bedroom apartment
  for 7 family members.
* We mentioned a disaster in one of ex-USSR's nclear power plants to
  refer to poor EUN's athletes.
* Romania could not get away. Their country's sad stories and poor
  situation was also mentioned in our commentary.
* We spread rumors that Chinese swimmers might have used steroids simply
  because they took the gold medals which supposed to belong USA. You
  see if these "easterners" had not gottten these gold medals, we would 
  have not spreaded these rumors (it's really not our fault).
* ...

Well, our commentary was not as bad as our program editor's work. Look,
they made men's gymnatsic games look like a MTV, or "American's funnest
gymnastic vedio". We all feel very sorry for our male gymnasts' bad luck, 
but it just that our program editors were out of control.

Please accept our apology. We will try very hard for next Olympics.
After all, the whole purpose of the Olympics is to make "easterners"
a little bit more "westernized", or make "westerners" a little bit
more "easternized", is it?

NBC's commentators
From Barcelona
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sksg3463@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Suvrat K. Singh)
Subject: air ticket for sale
Summary: ticket to Newark (New Jersey)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:10:04 GMT

Hi friends,
	I have an open one way ticket to Newark (New Jersey). The expiring 
	date of the ticket is 20th of August.  If interested please call me
	at (217) 344 1403 before 8.30am or after 10.30 pm.

	thanks
	singh
From: jing@hobart.cs.umass.edu (Yufeng Jing)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Mao vs. Deng (Re: incident)
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:29:48 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Massachusetts, Amherst
In-reply-to: yeh@netix.com's message of 22 Jul 92 01:27:04 GMT


Sounds reasonable and genuine. Need to be refined further.

Definitely, Mao is superior to his comtemporaries and the most powerful than
others. Mao made everybody do what he want him/her to do. But Deng made people
do what people want not what he want.


----- Jing



In article <2A6CB967.2484@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes: