From: vkb57@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Macedonia: Reality versus History.
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:17:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.062418.26500@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory  Dandulakis) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.183019.1805@hibbs.vcu.edu> dlatane@hibbs.vcu.edu (David E. Latane) writes:
>>
>>But Yannis, what is Greece afraid of? Is Greece afraid of admitting
>>that while there are practically no ethnic Greeks on the "Yugoslav"
>>side of the border, there are ethnic slavs on the Greek side? Is
>>Greece afraid of admitting that it's treatment of minorities within
>>its border is ad variance with recognized standards for recognition
>>and treatment of minorities? It is absurd to believe that Greece is
>>afraid that the former S.F.R. of Macedonia is going to be able to
>>press territorial claims either by diplomatic or other means with any
>>chance of success. . . . perhaps it's only that Greece is afraid to
>>admit that it's the basket case of the EC and that the current
>>government stays in power by whipping up anti-slav feeling in the
>>same way that their friends in Belgrade stay in power by whipping up
>>anti-Croat, anti-"turk," anti-Albanian, and anti-human feelings.
>>
>>D. Latane
>
>By trying to deny the obvious existence of mentality for misappropriation
>of Macedonian history, land and heritage by the Skopjians, by introducing
>an other Skopjian fiction (slavic ethnic minority in today's Greece),
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>you cann't help your case; you need proofs.

Oh,  come of it,  you now better than that.  You have read the Encyclopedia
Britannica estimates of 150 000 - 180 000 in todays Greece about thousand
times by now;  and the Todor Simovski's papers on tracking the Macedonian
population of Aegean Macedonia vilage-by-village since 1903 (you posted parts
of them), comming up with about 250 000 Macedonians remaining;  and the US
State Department reports;  and the EC reports (which you posted.)  Proofs are
wasted on you.

>The slavic speakers in Greece are greeks, the same way which are the Christian
>Turkish, Albanian, Vlachs speakers. Do you have any facts that these people are
>not greeks? (and we are not talking for the "soccer team" of the 800

Is that what Hristos Sideropoulos and Tashko Bulev (or is it Tasos Bulis,)  on
trial for saying that they are Macedonians,  are sayng,  or is it just your
opinion.

>ex-nazi collaborators). Whoever didn't feel greek had plenty of opportu-
>nities during the 1920's exchange of populations and 1946-49 civil war
>to choose his allegiance. (Tell me something: In your town, do you consider

would that "opportunity" by any chance be the opportunity to run away and leave
the land to the likes of you.  Did you at least blush a little when you wrote
that or are you beyond that by now?

>all the immigrants as non-americans, and do you spend public (tax) money

They are the natives,  not the immigrants,  their ancestors have lived there
for 14 centuries.  It was your grandfather that immigrated there,  not theirs.

>to provide education in every single mother tongue?)
>
>
>Gr

Vasil
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