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From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RCR Attendance List
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:04:08 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <151dvjINNs7n@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM writes:

>Mark Cervi             Moto Guzzi SPZ-1200

I didn't notice the big bore kit you installed Saturday night. :-) 
I always thought I had a 1000 cc Model SP-2.

I will be posting The Ride of Mr. Toad again since no one at the RCR
had seen it.  Maybe someone will read it this time around.
(Good flame bait for BMW owners.)

Mark
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From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:52:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA

In article <1992Jul20.203602.214@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>so all you male egos who have been posting acrimonious insults about
>female drivers lately, enough; go chat on your car phones or
>something.  you're 8 times more likely to be doing that while driving
>than a femme. 
> 
This may get me flamed too but...  I've noticed that most male shitty drivers
are basically assholes, and that most female shitty drivers are basically
clueless.  I'm not sure which makes me more nervous on the road.

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "Nothing is as over rated as a bad fuck or as       | '81 CB750C            |
| under rated as a good shit" -Laszlo Nemeth, DoD #666| '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 19:55:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Use of DOT5 in "older" bikes
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

> 
> 
> Use only DOT3 or DOT4 approved brake fluid. (etc., etc...)
> 
> Is there a good reason not to use DOT5 ? Or was the bike made
> before DOT5 was available to the mass public ?

Is there a good reason TO use DOT5??

It's expensive, it tends to be hard to find now that the initial marketing
flurry has worn off, and supposedly it has less lubricity than DOT3 so 
your seals will wear more quickly.

I just got rid of the DOT5 I was using in my jeep and reinstalled DOT3.

Since changing fluid on a bike is so easy, if I were you, I wouldn't switch.
Unless you are racing, there just aren't sufficient benefits.

My opinion,
Ron


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:14:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.125301.14988@ncsa.uiuc.edu>, heathman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Michael Heathman) writes:
>         Keystone Cycle here in Indy sells Harley-Davidson, Honda, Kawasaki
> AND Suzuki.  Talk about one-stop shopping!!

My Harley came from Tramontin HD in Hope, NJ.  They sell HD, Honda and
recently gave up their Yamaha rights.  Essex HD in Bloomfield, NJ sells
HD and Yamaha.  Harley Davidson Sales in Bound Brook, NJ sells HD and
Schwinn bicycles.  Brian's in Langhorne, PA sells only HD (and Buells).
The dealers in Edison NJ and Long Branch NJ sell only HD.  Sturgis HD
sells only T-Shirts (and trinkets).

- Roid
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FJ1200; did they make filter changes difficult ON PURPOSE?
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:29:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


->      Use at LEAST 200 foot pounds of torque on ALL bolts. Can't have
-> them to tight.....

 Dirt Bike Magazine's rule was:

         Tighten until they strip, then back off 1/4 turn.

 I never really knew if they were joking, particularly considering the
workmanship displayed on some of their project bikes.


 My friend Jay works on his ZX-10 with a 3/4" drive ratchet and adapters
down to the little 1/4" drive 8mm metric bolts.  Brrr...  I'm glad he
doesn't have a pneumatic impact hammer.
From: eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kawasaki GPX600...HELP REQUEST !
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:10:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.163544.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk>, msc9210@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
> Hi,
[stuff]
> 3) The problem was originally intermittent and didn't seem to be dependant on
>    whether it was raining or not. However, I have noted that the problem 
>    starts to set in a few days after getting the bike wet (almost like the
>    moisture has to filter down to the faulty component) and since a downpour 
>    a week or so ago  the problem has gotten a lot worse.
> 
[stuff]
> So, anyone got any ideas or had similar problems ? The really weird thing is
> how the problem gets steadily worse, but when it's not present the bike will
> run for miles with no problems (it recently managed London to Edinburgh 
> without a glitch). Since the fault now looks pretty terminal I could use some
> advice.
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin.
> 
> ----------oOo----------
> Martin Eager
> Dept of Geography
> Edinburgh University
> msc9210@uk.ac.ed.geovax
> ----------oOo-----------

My friend had a similar problem with his GPX which was water-related. We
decided that the problem was water getting trapped in the splug wells.
As the engine warmed up the water started to vaporize and shorted the
plug caps, when the engine is cold it just sits around at the grounded
base of the plug being harmless. The cure was to make sure there is no
water trapped in the wells, by running the bike with the well caps off,
and then making sure to get a good seal so no water gets in.
Ignition sealer may be enough but you might require some Hermatite
gunk of some sort.

Hope yours is this easy...

Ian

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
  Ian Harvey, University College Swansea         Too old to rock'n'roll
  eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr                              Too young to die
                              '79 GS750E
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: My day in Traffic Court
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:30:51 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>*Disinterested* witnesses are the key!  If/when something happens, look
>for witnesses and write down license numbers if they don't stop.  You
>can contact them later and ask them to write a statement of what they
>saw (better still, you might even convince them to show up in court).

When I had my day in court, I had a co-worker with me as a witness.  I'm
sure his testimony was the only thing that made the judge believe my word
over the cops.

Also, I had a notorized statement from another witness, and the judge
refused to even look at it.  My take was that if you're not a lawyer,
you'd better have your witnesses in the courtroom with you.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Why have 2 throttle cables?
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:19:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Jul22.151909.17853
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL


Sigh.

Stephen wrote:
>: >>Then why does my bike have only one throttle
>: >>cable (it is a 1992 model...)???????

I wrote:

>: >Is it a push-pull cable?  (i.e., push to open throttle, pull to close)
>                                    ^^^^

MerfMan (and sundry others) wrote:

>				    pull to open throttle.  One is probably
>				    mounted over the bar and the other is mounted
>				    under the bar.

The other what?  If there is only one, what is the other?

Which was the whole point of my query.
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
From: msc9210@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Kawasaki GPX600...HELP REQUEST !
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:35:44 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

Hi,

Can anybody help me with the following technical problem ?

I have a Kawasaki GPX600 C2 (same engine as the GPz600). It seems to have 
developed a problem to do with the electrics. I'm reasonably mechanically 
minded but when it comes to electrical matters I run a mile. The problems is 
as follows :

1) The bike always starts OK and runs and idles without choke almost 
   immediately - ie, no initial problems. Whilst the engine is cold the bike
   runs OK.

2) As soon as the engine reaches normal operating temperature it begins to
   'stutter' and run on less than the full four cylinders. This initially
   sets in at low revs (especially if left to idle) and then gradually 
   spreads to the whole rev range. After a few more minutes/miles the bike
   has intermittent power, backfires and seems to run on about two cylinders,
   sounding more like a tractor than a bike (yeah, I know - most Kawas 
   sound that way anyway).

3) The problem was originally intermittent and didn't seem to be dependant on
   whether it was raining or not. However, I have noted that the problem 
   starts to set in a few days after getting the bike wet (almost like the
   moisture has to filter down to the faulty component) and since a downpour 
   a week or so ago  the problem has gotten a lot worse.

I've checked all the obvious things like fuel supply, water in the petrol,
plugs, loose wires, battery etc. I also multimetred the coils and plug leads
and they seemed OK. It is important to mention that I had a problem with my IC
Igniter unit a year or so ago, with similar symptoms. This unit was replaced by
a dealer with a brand new unit being fitted. Both the shop and Kawasaki UK are
quite sure that the Igniter shouldn't have gone again and multimeter tests
would tend to indicate that it's OK.

So, anyone got any ideas or had similar problems ? The really weird thing is
how the problem gets steadily worse, but when it's not present the bike will
run for miles with no problems (it recently managed London to Edinburgh 
without a glitch). Since the fault now looks pretty terminal I could use some
advice.

Cheers,
Martin.

----------oOo----------
Martin Eager
Dept of Geography
Edinburgh University
msc9210@uk.ac.ed.geovax
----------oOo-----------
From: bsmith@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Re: Vespa info wanted
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:42:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO

In rec.motorcycles, davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:

    >> of spare parts for a Vespa motor scooter.  I cannot find any place
    >> here in Colorado and I have been told that there used to be a
    >
    +   Try these guys:
    +   Vespa Club of America
    +   R. Garner
    +   P.O. Box 670864
    +   Dallas, TX 75367

Thanks for the information.

B.S! (from the department of the same name) -- ask me a question in
rec.boats some time :-)
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:53:21 GMT
	<4eOkJk600Uh_Q3DVQG@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<1992Jul21.212340.24831@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., Sunnyvale, Ca.
In-reply-to: fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu's message of Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:23:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.212340.24831@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site) writes:

> Your post contributed to the current tension between HD and Jap riders.  I 
> really would like to know why you think the "big, bad biker" wouldn't have
> acnowleged your comment if he had known what your ride was.  I don't feel
> this way about Jbikers, I've owned several Jbikes myself.  Chances are that
> the "big, bad biker" got his start on a Jbike too.

That was probably before he took out that second mortgage
on his old lady to make his hog payments.
--
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Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:04:32 GMT
Organization: Bit Herders International

In article <l7doc6INNdm8@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead]) writes:
+
+ I heard on the news last night that the CHP reported that fatalities
+ from motorcycle accidents were down 43% since the introduction of
+ the helment law here in CA. Take it for what you will. An unqualified
+ assertion.
+

I did not hear the 6 month stats.  But I did hear the stats for the
first 3 months of the year.  The fatality rate was down 36%.  However,
the accident rate was down 40%.  The first stat was widely quoted in
the media.  The second seemed to be ignored.  Taken together, it would
seem that there were more fatalities per accident.

BTW, the accident & fatality rates had been going down in CA for each
year prior to the helmet law.  It is believed that is due to the
requirement that those 21 years and younger getting mc licenses for the
first time are required to take & pass the MSF course.  In addition,
there was a lot of rain early this year.  Rain == less riding == less
accidents.

Those who had been around for a while on this group may remember my
prediction last fall.  I said that fatalities had been decreasing for 3
years in a row.  If the trend continues, the pols & insurance companies
will credit the helmet law for it.

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From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: My views of the RCR
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:09:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.205044.24763@linus.mitre.org>, cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes: 
> In article <1992Jul29.174630.28490@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
> >I hit the sack around 1:20-1:30am and woke with a splitting headache at about 
> >7:20am.
> Wait a minute, you bitched and moaned about how much of a wimp I was when I
> went to bed at 1:30.  You must have been up a while after that.


I stand corrected.  The last time I looked at my watch before hitting the sack was
around 1:20-130am and I woke with a splitting headache at about 7:20am (I think
Marc woke me intentionally).

Did anyone else get zillions of bug bites on their legs?  Are Lyme Disease ticks
active in NC?

- Roid
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: '85 V65 Sabre: Starter Motor R&R
Date: 29 Jul 1992 19:04:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Jul29.174906.8857@nas.nasa.gov> browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov writes:
>My VOM and I are taking a guided tour through my '85 Honda V65 Sabre.
>Our map is the Honda Shop Manual.  The signpost ahead says (paraphrased):
>
>Starter Motor Removal:
>	Remove starter motor cable at starter motor.
>	Remove starter motor mounting bolts, remove starter motor.
>
>I removed the cable & bolts easily.  The motor itself is a different
>matter -- it's in there pretty tight.  Too tight to just pull it off
>by hand.

 There will be an o-ring sealing the starter motor into the top of the
 motor. Additonally, the armature of the starter is probably engaged
 with the gears in the motor. So you don't want to pry it upward -
 you want to come straight out (axially).

 I would suggest that you try some sort of penetrating lubricant
 (not to much as it would end up in your crankcase). Something very
 slippery like Tri-flow would probably work well.

 Check to see if the mounting holes are tapped for a larger size of
 bolt. One frequent trick (by design) is to thread larger bolts through
 the holes in the starter housing, gently pushing the starter away
 from the crankcase. This will only work if the starter was designed
 this way (very doubtful on a Honda). I imagine you could always
 remove the clutch cover and try and disengage the gears from that
 side and then _push_ the starter out. Might work.

 Stef

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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
Organization: Bit Herders International
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:26:02 GMT

In article <LOTTO.92Jul27123257@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
+I strive to NOT take a position on helmet laws, but I do follow the
+arguments both for and against as time permits.  The last word I had
+regarding studies on the effectiveness of helmet laws was the GAO
+report - which concluded that helmet LAWS are reasonably effective in
+both increasing helmet use AND reducing head injury.  This study team
+did no new research of its own, rather it compiled and analyzed the
+sum total of reports in this area and attempted to validate the
+statistical methods used.  Studies passing validity criterea were
+retained, others were thrown out.  I read the report and had no
+objection to their methods, their conclusions appear both reasonable
+and valid.  I saw no indication that the position or conclusions of
+the research influenced its selection, just the methods used.

Hmmmmm.  I read the GAO report also.  However, I seem to notice something
that you didn't.  The report said that each of the 22 studies involved
was flawed to some extent.  However, they decided that helmet usage
must be a good thing since all 22 said that.

I personally don't think that using admittedly flawed studies is a
good basis for making a conclusion.

Also, don't confuse helmet usage with helmet laws.  The GAO study
was based on studies of the effectiveness of helmet usage & concluded
that laws would be a good thing.  If you conclude that helmet usage is
a good thing, I do not believe that you should automatically conclude
that helmet laws are a good thing.  (Example: brushing your teeth every
day is a good thing; laws requiring you to brush your teeth everyday
are not).

+The most convincing arguments AGAINST helmet LAWS I have heard revolve
+around the issue of personal freedom.  ...

The most convincing argument that I've heard is the NHTSA statistics.
It shows that the the 5 states with the highest fatalities/accidents
were helmet law states and the 5 states with the lowest were not.

============================================================================
	"David rode in Triumph throughout the land"
		-- Biblical reference to motorcycles
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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         Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Mobil 1 is So Smoooth
Keywords: Mobil 1 vs others tried.
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:59:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hey everyone, 

I just changed my oil and I just wanted to say that Mobil 1 kicks
Ass.  I just read an article in Cycle World or Motorcyclist. but
decided to go with Mobil 1 for a change.  I looked for Amsoil, but 
I can't find the stuff in the area.  I did find KOTL -or something
but since I never heard it mentioned I decided not to go with it.

Anyway, I usually use Castrol GTX 20w50 because of the price and it
works fine.  I have tried  Golden Spectro but I don't think it's any
better than Castrol and it costs 3x more. 

The mobil 1 was $3.59/quart and it is the smoothes oil I have ever
tried in my 14k mi on my EX500.  Lower engine vibration, the smoothest
shifts imaginable, and is the cost is right in the middle of spectro
and castrol.  

So far, So good.  If it feels this good in a few weeks (1000 m) I'm
going to stick with it, if not I might try looking for amsoil again or
try Castrols new Syntec (Synthetic) Well, I'll keep you posted,

Keith
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From: wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman)
Subject: Re: RCR - Hard Luck Story of Non-Attendee
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:31:05 GMT

Me too although my luck not nearly so bad.
Sick SO, Sticking clutch cable, thunder storms -> Dead SUN -> 
couldn't print map, 50 miles into trip realize left tank bag at gas 
station. Enough hints...

Sorry to Ed Green who I'm sure has done a great job organizing RCR.

Will Heyman		Applied Math 		UVA
wsh8z@virginia.edu	CB450T Hawk '82		$5 Ultimate
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman)
Subject: Brake bleeding.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:27:08 GMT

I bled my front disc breaks for the first time yesterday. Now the
breaks aren't spongy but they have more travel then they used to.
Does anyone know how to fix this or know what I might have done wrong?
I bled them a lot and they refused to get tighter.
Thanks
	
Will Heyman		Applied Math 		UVA
wsh8z@virginia.edu	CB450T Hawk '82		$5 Ultimate
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: 3 more mounting questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.113721.29633@dg-rtp.dg.com>, taylor@rtp.dg.com writes...
>Thanks for the tire mounting advice!
>Just a few more questions.
> 
>1) From the "authoritative answer on tire mounting"
> 
>>  8. Read the tire manufacturer's instructions to find the
>>     light point on the tire.  Position the tire with the
>>     light point at the valve stem hole.
> 
>   I got the tire in the mail - no instructions.  I've carefully read
>   everything on the tire (Dunlop F11) but can't find anything that
>   looks like a light point indication.
> 
>   Any tips as to what I might be looking for on the F11?

	You could look for the splice -- that's the heaviest part (if modern
tyres have splices; since you also mention that there's no direction arrow,
maybe there's a new method of construction).  The splice is usually quite
visible as a differently-coloured stripe diagonally across the inside of the
tyre.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
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