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From: wen@intl.corp.sgi.com (Wen-ching Chow)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Christopher Sun Crusade this weekend, SJ
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:28:58 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mt. View, CA. USA


Christopher Sun Crusade will take place this Friday,
Saturday and Sunday (8-28-92 thru 8-30-92).

Starting time is 7:30pm everyday.
The place is San Jose Municipal Baseball Stadium
(Alma & 10th St., next to the Spartan Stadium)
Free Parking.

Special children program available.
Special sitting arrangements for the elderly.

Please bring gospel friends with you.

The messages will be done in Madarin Chinese
with English translation.  The messages are
different for each day, so you are encouraged
to come for all 3 days.

This crusade is brought to you by Bay Area
Chinese Christian churches.

Thank you for your attention.
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: windscreen and dirt tire for sale.
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:28:14 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

for sale:

(1) Dunlop Sports K139 : 3.00 x 21. not highway legal. never used.

(2) tall & wide windscreen. handle bar mounted. great shape. you can 
bring your bike by (in SF) and try it out.

make me an offer i can't refuse.

can be picked up in either san francisco or mt. view.

e-mail to:

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
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From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: where to go for honda service
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:22:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.235300.13661@genghis.borland.com> ewodzien@genghis.borland.com (Ed Wodzienski) writes:
>Does anyone have any experience with Honda Peninsula in Sunnyvale?
>They seem to know what they are doing but they are expensive and seem
>to "nickel and dime" you to death.....

  The service dept. at Honda Peninsula is quite good, although they will try
to toss in things like 'anti-shear additives' with your oil change, so
be sure to get that written estimate.  Their sales department, on the other
hand, is the worst one this side of Honda/Suzuki in San Mateo.  Very high
pressure and not terribly attached to honesty.  I go exclusively to 
Honda of Redwood City - they have a friendly sales dept (Hans & Garry) and
a great parts dept (ask for Larry).  Their service guy is pretty good,
but he only works on Hondas.

  I have also heard good things about Coed Honda down in Milpitas.  There
is a recently-opened Honda/Yamaha in Daly City which might be worth
investigation.

  Whatever you do, avoid the service department at Honda/Suz of San Mateo.
They can't even set up a new bike properly (I bought my 900RR there by
a strange twist of fa), and they don't know the service intervals or
requirements of the bikes they sell.  My 900RR came with the headlights
improperly aimed, clutch cable misrouted, tires which were low in pressure,
etc.  I have heard several other horror stories about that dealership as well.
>Tx,
>Ed
>


-- 
Ben Sloss        ben@osc.com (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:46:28 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Aug29.015135.15753@tcsi.com>, brad@intransit.tcs.com (Brad Whitaker) writes:
> In article <17h69nINNs3t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>> 
>> 	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?
> 
> I've had Corbin RoadMaster boots for several months now. Overall I think

stay clear of roadmaster boots.  they will wear out fast (even if you
DON'T drag your feet) and the company doesn't stand behind them. 

i am highly fond of my steel-toed bionic (tm) harley engineer boots.
you could drive one of those stupid looking little tiny trucks with
the great big wheels over them and i doubt i'd notice.  they come in
small sizes mailorder. 

you know, i keep thinking somebody's gonna wise up and open a real
motorcycle shop with real motorcycle clothes in real men's and women's
sizes and real dressing rooms and real mirrors and real carpet and so
on.  h-d has kinda tried to open up this market, especially on the
female side, but it's much too narrow an image; if you don't like
fringed black leather and the poseur urban cowgirl look, you're still
left out. even IF they were actually INTO the clothes business, which
they're not, road rider and golden gate and just leathers still have
that cement floor and oil-filters-filters-on-the-next aisle feel.
totally wrong marketing concept.  might as well be setting up an ann
klein biz suit rack in the volvo showroom. 


-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Subject: Re: misc. ramblings
	<RAIBLE.92Aug27114823@wk43.nas.nasa.gov>
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:27:51
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: ba


In article <RAIBLE.92Aug27114823@wk43.nas.nasa.gov> I wrote:

   In article <5wcn7#a.shoun@netcom.com> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:

      Well, I do recommend removing the wheel yourself and taking it in to
      Road Rider or Zoom for a new tire but if you really don't want to
      do it yourself... Go to Zoom and buy a new tire, put tire around waist
      and ride two blocks down the street to Hole Shot Cycle, laughing
      hysterically the whole time. Hole shot will remove wheel, mount and
      balance. I had both tires replaced at once for $50. Zoom's prices
							  ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
      include mounting and balancing but if you tell them you will be
      ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
      using Hole Shot they discount the price a bit. Zoom is in Santa Clara
      on El Camino, east of Lawrence Expressway.

   So why not have them mount and balance them then?

   I don't get it...

   - Eric

Never mind.  I suppose if you don't want to remove and install your
wheels this makes sense.  Personally, I find removing and installing
wheels so much fun, I couldn't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to do
it.

- Eric "No, I'm *not* serious" Raible
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From: avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter)
Subject: Re: van gives biker hard time
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 18:57:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I drive vans around there.

But my van is always either white with a green stripe or red with a blue stripe

And I ALWAYS give leeway to fellow riders, always.

If I see this "BADE" character, I'll be sure to let the authorities know.

-- 
Avery Ray Colter ("Elfcat") - 	avery@netcom.netcom.com (IP 192.100.81.100)
(510) 656-1902          	{elfcat|arcolter}@aol.com
"Heaviness is the root of lightness; calmness is the controller of haste"
From: wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:37:00 GMT

dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:


>Struck me Golden Gate Cycles at Van Ness and Golden Gate
>(that's in the City, for you people in Cleveland...) had
>a good selection.  A mite pricey.  Road Rider on Monterey Hwy
>in San Jose is kind of legendary for selection and pricing.

I'd have to agree that for shear selection and the best
touch-before-you-buy-it prices around that Road Rider is the place to
go.  *Great* selection of leather.  If you want the best price, you
could find your size and style at RR, then mail order it, but if you
do that, then you give up your right to ever complain about not being
able to find a store with a good selection of stuff for reasonable
prices again.  

>Aerostitch doesn't have any official dealers - I think - you
>pretty much _have_ to order direct from the factory.  I seem
>to recall seeing one place advertising they carried them.
>I guess they'd let you try them on, but they'd hiked the price 10%.

I remember seeing them at a BMW dealer in Marin once, and have a
friend who almost bought one from a dealer somewhere in the Bay Area,
but you did pay more for the instant gratification and being able to
get the size right the first time (if they carried your size).
Aerostitch is *very* good about returns for resizing (I went through 3
sets of pants before I found the correct fit), and they are also real
good about repair (I had a zipper tooth break on me).  The only thing
I found to be a problem was having to wait 6 weeks for the suit after
I ordered it.  They did tell me it would be 6 weeks, and it was
probably because of the size and color combination I wanted.  Not
wanting to feel out of place on either coast, I got both a V-Pilot
jacket, and an Aerostich suit (black on black, of course) ;-).

--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:48:16 GMT
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"Daniel" == Daniel Matejka <dmatejka@netcom.com> writes:

Daniel>   Hey - didn't ba.motorcycles pop up out of nowhere awfully fast???
Daniel> Not that I'm complaining, but those wreck.moto.harley people had
Daniel> to strain over this kind of thing for weeks.

Local distribution newsgroups are pretty much created at will given a
few people think that it's a good idea.  This is much in the spirit in
which USENET was created, not the spirit in which USENET exists now...

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
           '91 CB750, soon to be replaced by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
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From: august@athena.mit.edu (Susan K. Raisty)
Subject: Dispute with Honda Dealer
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:00:25 GMT

A bunch of folks asked me about what my dispute with Honda/Suzuki of San Mateo 
was.  Well I'm very, very happy to report that it was resolved this morning!
Yeah!

At the beginning of June, I laid my bike down bye Skyline and 92.  It was 
towed to the crappy dealership of Honda/Suzuki of San Mateo.  I asked them to 
tell me how much it would cost to get the bike back and working safely and 
legally because I didn't have collision insurance.  They phoned me 2 days
later with a $800 estimate (I paid $750 for the bike) and tried to sell me a 
bike that was "just like" mine, and offered a tiny bit for the salvage, assuring
me that no one else wanted it and they were doing me a favor.  After lots of
net.advice, I went to look at the damage myself.  They wanted to replace almost
everything on the bike, it seemed, including stuff that was not damaged in the
accident, and many parts that were NEVER scratched.  I decided there was 
nothing but cosmetic damage and carefully rode it home.  But the dealership 
wouldn't release my bike to me without my paying $100 for the estimate.  I 
argued, but ended up paying it.  

I then thought about it and realized I was being ripped off.  I called the 
dealer several times, but they would hang up on me.  So I filed a complaint 
with the Automotive Group of the Bureau of Consumer Affairs.  After 3 months,
I got a call this morning from them.  The Bureau found that they were in the 
wrong, and the dealership agreed to refund my money!  Yahoo!
So I have my $100 back!!!!  I'm going to put it in the "Buy Me a Motorcycle"
fund. 

Later,
Sue

-------------------------------------------------------------
|  Sue Raisty                |    august@athena.mit.edu     |
|  motorcycle-less, coveting |       DoD# 0609		    |
|  a Honda CBR600F2, white.  |                              |
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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: hollister this saturday
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:52:14 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

if anyone dirt-donks still havent made plans for this week-end, l & i
will be down at hollister on saturday.  send e-mail.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
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From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Best Place to Buy a Yamaha?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:30:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Keywords: yamaha

I've got a co-worker who'd like to buy a Yamaha Seco II in the Bay
Area.  Any good Yamaha places around?  He's moving away, so service
isn't a concern, just low price.

Thanks, and I'll pass everything along to him.

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com
They who give have all things; they who withhold have nothing.  
                      -- Hindu proverb
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: Re: a mission honda/yamaha testemonial
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  4 Sep 92 06:47:02 GMT

bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
> [ good stuff about Mission Honda/Yamaha ]
>now *THAT* is the way to get me back into that store and spend my 
>money. 

Same here. I have been in there several times because they tend to
have *many* more obscure parts on hand than the other Honda places in
the bay area, and they have never been less than completely personable
and helpful. I don't have a story quite as good as, "They gave me a
free battery," but they have given me lots of free advice and great
service with a smile. Go buy stuff there. I do.

	-- Robert
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: where to go for honda service
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
	<1992Sep2.015345.622@queernet.org>
Distribution: ba
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:48:57

In article max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin) writes:
   jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
   >My cb750 needs its 8000 mile service.  Where should I go/avoid?  Is
   >Penn. Honda really the ripoff joint people claim it to be?

   I've been happy with the service at RedwoodCity Honda on El Camino Real.
   The service guy there seems to be exellent and the prices seem reasonable
   as well ( for a dealership).

I would _not_ advise Cycle City, the moto store on San Antonio, for most
things.  They have one really good mechanic (`bob', of course!), and a
few not-so-great ones.  The last time my bike [Magna 750] was in there, it 
was there for five weeks -- which wouldn't be so bad, except that they 
promised it in one!  When I got it back, I found lots of little things broken 
about it -- parts of the radiator fairing, etc.  The radiator itself was
attached _only_ by the hoses -- could've fallen off at any time.

Cycle City is pretty good for parts, though -- they've got pretty reasonable
prices and can usually find what you need.

Doesn't anyone do his own service anymore?  My experience with Cycle City
was the first (and last) time I let anyone else work on my machine.  
With the cost of a tune/maintenance up at almost $200 on the peninsula,
it makes sense to me to buy $200 worth of tools instead!
--
zowie@banneker.stanford.edu  "Tell your senator to fund the MSSTA program!"

The world would be much better if more physicists read Strunk and White, 
and more fuzzies read Tipler.  *Everyone* should read at least one 
economics text.  No exceptions.
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From: vijay@phaedrus.tcs.com (Vijay Manwani)
Subject: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Organization: Teknekron Communications, Inc
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:02:06 GMT

I am looking to buy a riding jacket (and pants) around San Francisco or Berkeley.
Any suggestions on

1.	Where to buy one ?
2. 	What to buy ?
3. 	Is it better to mail order one ?

Vijay.


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From: dhawk@well.sf.ca.us (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:25:13 GMT

Well, all I can say is that it's a great advantage to move to CA with
a license that already says 'motorcycle' on it.  I didn't have to take
any stinking tests.  Since I had a fully equiped GoldWing, it would
have been a real pain.

later, david
--
David Hawkins  -- dhawk@well.sf.ca.us -- dhawk@netcom.com -- Dod1113
"I won't bother with logic"  - Steve Dyer, 3307@ursa-major
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From: tcox@netcom.com (Thomas Cox)
Subject: Re: i'm sick and tired of this!
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 06:47:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Keywords: silly boy can you swim

In article <BtMuGy.q0@Caere.COM> mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones) writes:
>tcox@netcom.com (Thomas Cox) writes:
>>So, who's gonna organize a ride up to Alice's for Saturday 29-Sept?

>29-Sept is a Tuesday.  :)   And Sept 26 and 27 is the ERC ...

Groan.  August.  NevermindI'lljustusecycles@forel...  No, can't ride
Saturday, gotta work :-(.  I'll try again after the ERC, when I can
keep up with the rest of you hot dogging squiddlies.

>But we can throw a symbolic Spaglethorpe off the Dumbarton if you like ...

I'd much rather we tossed a real one.  Bloomp.

>Mojo

	-- Tom
-- 
Tom Cox      DoD #1776   '91 CB 750 Nighthawk   tcox@netcom.netcom.com
Yeah, I have a day job.  They don't believe me any more than you do.
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: misc. ramblings
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:19:56 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Greetings fellow Gray Area mc-heads..

This is probably old hat for those of you who ride around the South Bay,
but the wife and I had a most primo ride last Saturday after our weekly
Road Rider visit; we took Metcalf up to some road (I need to look at a
map for the name) that was a hell of a lot of fun.  Great pavement, little
traffic (we saw ONE car), very few blind turns.  Blind turns keep me from
having too much fun on Hwys 9 and 35.  I didn't know that "country" roads
like this existed so close to Civilisation.  Anyway, this was one of the
most enjoyable, albeit short, "fast" rides (for me) I've ever done...

Re: Honda dealers... Before I ended up buying my '87 CBR1000, I was looking
for a cherry '87 VFR, and Peninsula Honda had a blue one with about 8K 
miles on it, and they were asking ONLY $4795 for it, which was what they
cost NEW five years ago.  I offered $3500 (market price for a NICE VFR)
and they sort of laughed...  I know this has little to do with service
but their greed quotient is appalling.  "We'll just wait for some idjut
to pay the asking price, but thanks for stopping by!"  Jerks.

The fellow I bought the CBR from said that Camden Honda damaged not one
but TWO pieces of bodywork while it was in the shop...  So I wouldn't
go there...

On the other hand, Coed Honda seems to be an OK place; I've heard good
things about their service dept. and their prices on new bikes are really
good: $6K for a new '90 CBR1000, $6.5K for a new '92 VFR750 (both are 
gone).  They also have, as of yesterday, two CBR900RRs, one in each
color scheme.  He's probably asking list for those since Honda has 
apparently sold ALL of the 10,000 900s they made for '93 to dealers.
(10K sounds really high, could have been a print error wherever I read
it.)  Coed is in Milpitas on Main St.

Now, a question: the CBR needs a rear tire real soon now; is there a 
reasonably priced local (south bay) resource for mounting tires?  I'd
really prefer taking the whole bike in.  PS I'm probably going to go
for Metzler (sp?) ME33 front/ME99 rear.  Any naysayers?

Cheers,     Dave Blevins        blave@netcom.com
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Tire vendor (was Re: misc. ramblings)
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:58:53 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Caere Corp.

Is Accinelli's Cycle Goodies still open in East Palo Alto?

I bought a set of tires for my Concours there once.  They were terrible
tires, causing some awful front wheel shake.  But they lasted a long time,
which is probably bad -- I should haven gotten rid of them sooner.  I don't
even remember what they were.

But he certainly had a huge stock of good motorcycle tires at low prices.
I think I just picked up a bad match for my bike.  Finding his shop in a
little run down house in East Palo Alto is no picnic, but at the time I
worked nearby at Etak.

I've since gone back to the stock Dunlop radials.

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Loans for new motorcycle.
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:27:26
Distribution: ba

"Ron" == Ron Mayer <mayer@sono.uucp> writes:

Ron> Anyone have any tips on financing a new motorcycle?  My cage died

Well, I found that BMW will give you 12% if you ask.  Better than my
credit union...

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
           '91 CB750, soon to be replaced by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
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From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: RIDE: three peaks ride, sept 12, 1992
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.154758.373@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
> 
> [ 27 lines about a ride  and 51 lines of disclaimers ]

     Sigh.  (No, I'm not flaming you Bob, nor the original authors.)

							George

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Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc. | (510) 649-3700
2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704  | Never be the first to believe . . .
From: markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Title/Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:52:25 GMT


banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) inquires:
>What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them? 
>Any preferences for pullon/laceon boots?  I'd hate to have my boots
>fly off in a crash and let my tender tootsies get all scratched up....

Street: Combat boots, the new pattern boots.  Unlike many other boots
they are comfortable enough to wear all day and walk long distances
in.  They last longer than many moto boots.  I have crash tested them
twice (low speed tip over and 40 mph lowside) and they did what
motorcycle boots should.  Fit and finish is better than many moto
boots I've looked at.  I got them at Berkeley surplus $50 - $60.  The
best value in moto boots IMHO.

Track: Fieldsheer Racer boots.  Armored in critical areas with
replaceable toe sliders.  Fit over leathers.  Well finished, light and
comfortable.  Mail order - $125.  These are zip-on boots.

I cannot recommend leather soled boots.  I wore my sh*t-kickers on the
bike once, and won't again.  Very easy to loose your footing on
pavement.

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
         Nothing profound or amusing to say here today.