HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phillip M. Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: NetNews/CD - USENET News Available
Keywords: locksmith door
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESY ZEUS Central Data Acquisition
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:59:08 GMT

In article <Brq3EG.41A@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil
Gustafson) writes:

|>[Please note drastic reduction in followups.]
|>
|>In article <1992Jul16.215834.7404@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
|>tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
|>>In <fcpH02fO19kR01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@ccc.amdahl.com (Terry
|>Carroll) writes:
|>>
|>>>Actually, that's not an issue.  CD-ROMs have a greater capacity if
|>you
|>>>run a green felt-tip marker around their rims.
|>>
|>>Actually, you can just flip them over and record on the other side.
|>>
|>
|>There is no physical reason that CD's and CD-ROMs cannot have data on
|>both sides, and no reason that two-sided readers could not be made.
|>
|>The printed matter on the wrong side is of little import: you can't
|>see it when the disc is in the drive.  One-sidedness is a cynical
|>marketing ploy.

Rubbish, a CD is produced by pressing out holes in a very thin sheet of
metal. It is an inviolate rule that holes on one side will be holes on
the other. The cost of making the CD is the cost of the presser and the
rest of the parephinalia. The only reasonable way of making a 2 sided cd
would be to make 2 ordinary ones and stick them together. This would not
save money.


Phill Hallam-Baker
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From: gritz@seas.gwu.edu (Larry Gritz)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:50:06 GMT

In article <Brp0CE.CD8@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld) writes:
>>medical rag) is that 6 of 100,000 women married to non smokers will get 
>>cancer as opposed to 8 of 100,000 women married to smokers.
>>
>   Putting the odds of a woman contracting cancer somewhere around her
>odds of being struck by lightning? Haven't we seen figures recently that
>one in ten women can expect to contract breast cancer? I thought that
>cancer deaths accounted for 10+% of deaths in the industrialized world.

Obviously, the 6/100000 figure is PER YEAR, and the 10% figure is
over a lifetime.  I don't know if the numbers are correct, however.

	-- lg

--
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Man Shot In Head Survives!
Date: 31 Jul 1992 00:12:50 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley, California
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

(Terry Carroll) writes:

  +>I read one (supposedly true; from the Book of Lists) story of a guy who 
  +>attempted suicide by drilling holes in his head, presumably assuming one
  +>deep hole would do it.  I think it took five.

(Charles Lasner) writes:

  +>> 'Tis said that knowledgeable and craftsmanlike suicides put the 
  +                                    ^^^^^^^^^
  +I guess most potential head-drill suicides do shop at Sears.

Hey, lifetime money back GUARANTEED.

Terry "But not at the auto shops" Chan
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Man Shot In Head Survives!
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:57:59 GMT

In article <138C02v11cep01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>
>I read one (supposedly true; from the Book of Lists) story of a guy who 
>attempted suicide by drilling holes in his head, presumably assuming one deep 
>hole would do it.  I think it took five.
>> 
>> 'Tis said that knowledgeable and craftsmanlike suicides put the 
                                    ^^^^^^^^^

I guess most potential head-drill suicides do shop at Sears.

cjl
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:14:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul21.050353.16352@walter.cray.com>, matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:

> I came across a piece titled, "Stooge's Wives". In it one of Curly's wives
> is portrayed in an interview as claiming that Curly's trademark cry of,
> "WooWoo" originated during the sex-act as the aforementioned Stooge
> acheived orgasm. 

This sure does make me wonder what "Moe! Larry! The Cheeze" means.

Terry "Pie Fight!" Wood
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        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
From: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Revenge of the Choking Doberman
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Organization: R&D, OTC Sydney, Australia

In article <8086.28201@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM>, jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman) writes:
|> The Choking Doberman must be making the rounds!  Again!
|> First, I see the story appear here a couple weeks ago, with it
|> noted that this *really happened* (anyone hear anything more
|> about that one?

Yeah, I'm still getting details. Needless to say, the story has changed
considerably under close scrutiny. It now happened in Brisbane, Queensland
(another state to the first telling), and happened to someone who is known 
by a friend of afriend of my wife (SWIKBAFOAFOMW);) rather thaan just to this
friend. The important thing aboutthis UL is that every occurance
"REALLY HAPPENED".
 
|> He then proceeds to tell the Choking
|> Doberman (it was a German Shepherd in this version) 

<Standard UL deleted.>

The type of dog seems to be a regional variation. Every account I have heard
comming from Australia involves a Rotweiler. These dogs have been involved
in quite a few attacks on kids,in recent years and so is
"more believable" to Australians than a German Shepherd. Does anyone know
what the most popular dogs are in different areas for this story? Perhaps
it really is dobermans (dobermen?) doing the amputation and they are 
feindishly framing the rotweillers...

The main reason I posted the original was that this was the first time I 
had heard it with *three fingers* in the dog's mouth, rather than two. I
assume the intruder was supposed to give the dog the "two-finger salute"
just before the attack.

<Canine ENT surgery theory deleted>

My theory is that the dogs are on steroids, directly injected in to the
jaw muscles and they train by disecting frozen chickens with their teeth.

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From: mcvey@netcom.com (John McVey)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: offensive phrases ("Rule of Thumb")
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:32:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund) writes:
>>holding one thumb extended to gain an idea of relative size and
>>proportion.

>	I always assumed that the "rule of thumb" derived from the length 
>of your thumb to the first joint being approximately one inch.


I always thought it was from the right-hand rule that tells you which
way to turn a screw or orient a 3-d coordinate system.  But I got
that by hearsay (from my math teacher long ago) so it's not a
definitive answer.


--Arda McVey   mcvey@netcom.com(home) or arda@island.com (work)
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Subject: Re: How many Grooves on an LP?
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 05:10:33 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Jul27.021703.26827@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>This last-groove thing has appeared in a few random places: the British-only
>version of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.  (For the youth-impaired, 
>it is rumored that this album was recorded by Paul McCartney without his
>wife playing any of the instruments, including the unconnected microphone, and
>with musicians who probably never toured with Wings.)  

Hardly surprising seeing as this was a Beatles record.

Ok, just what _was_ she doing with the unconnected microphone then?  

Derek "Now if you'd said Yoko Ono and an unconnected microphone..." Tearne




-- 
Derek Tearne  derek@icl.co.nz or derek@fivegl.co.nz --Fujitsu SDC,Auckland,NZ

My 'self aware' .signature file failed his Turing test.  
It turns out he was just a chess playing midget in a decorative box.
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From: cc2x@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Jeff Luszcz)
Subject: Re: SHOCKING STORIES
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Cornell University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:29:17 GMT


  Well, 
   Here is my story,  from my confused and often misunderstood youth.
 
     My friend Doug was able to scam an oil burner transformer from his
  grandfathers basement. So we brought it to school and set it up in the 
  Bio Classroom. We used it for a Jacob's Lader using two wire
clothshangers.
  
          \  /
           \/
           []
     A spark would 'flow' up the gap between the two wires and a nice ozone
  smell would be all around.
     One day when we were fooling around with it, I got shocked. I was
    positioning the wires (with the transformer unpluged) because the wires

    got to far apart when Doug plugged the damn thing in, thinking I was
clear.
    My hands griped the wires hard as the current flowed through me and I
could
    let go when they unplugged it what seemed 1 minutes later (reallt <2
seconds
    I was told)  
       I fell down to the ground and sat there for a bit, my heart was all
     pitter-patter and I was all cold and sweaty (probably shock but hey
     what did I know I was young and stupid.
       I was okay, I had what looked like a sunburn on the palms of my
hands
     and it kind of was all prickly...but no other bad effects...I hope.
    
        Zappp-
   
      -jeff

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From: brett@sr.hp.com (Brett K. Carver)
Subject: Re: Man Shot In Head Survives!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:32:36 GMT

joltes@husc10.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes) writes:
: There's one case, often cited in Psychology texts, of a fellow who was a
: "tamper" on a railroad in the 1800s.  ...

I saw a re-creation of this event on our local PBS station a few years back.
It was part of a multi-part series on the brain.

: The result of this was
: that the iron bar was driven lengthwise through his head (entering just below
: the left cheekbone and exiting from somewhere near the top center).

Nice clean hole.  The attending physician was able to insert a finger in each
hole and have them touch somewhere in the middle.

There wasn't much they could do about it, so they just bandaged him up and
hoped for the best.

: He survived, but underwent "significant personality changes" as a result.
: 
: I wonder why...considering that "significant" numbers of synapses were either
: eliminated or rearranged by the rod...

The show said that the rod eliminated the connective tissue that connects the
two sides of the brain together (I don't remember the medical term for it).
He was studied for several years after that to see what effect this seperation
had on him.

							Brett Carver
							(707) 577-4344
							brett@sr.hp.com
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From: sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:57:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.231811.23170@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>ps: which Marx brothers' routine is about the Party of the First Part,
>Party of the Second Part, etc., that ends with "there ain't no Sanity
>Clause" ?

The contract scene in "A Night at the Opera."  It's near the beginning.

ObAFU-coincidence: the comic book "normalman" once included a parody of
Groucho, called "Orange Julius."

Bill "Hail Kibonia" Sherman

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bearing a burden of happy woe secretly exposed to the view of a blind world...
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From: spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie)
Subject: Re: Stupidity (was Re: that'd be in the butt, bob)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:37:09 GMT

In article <parris.711470586@fig.cs.scarolina.edu> parris@cs.scarolina.edu (Barry Parris) writes:
>
>This reminds me of some letters to the editor in the Spartanburg, SC Herald 
>Journal.  (Or as a friend says, that's the "HJ", for "Hopeless Joke").  These
>are not ULs.  I saw these with my own eyes, not the eyes of anyone else :-)
>Both of these appeared about 20 or so years ago.
>
>Shortly after South Carolina adopted daylight savings time, a woman wrote a
>letter saying that she hated daylight savings time...the extra hour of sunlight
>was killing all her plants!
>

Oh yeah? The versions I heard in Australia were            
- Houswife complains that extra hour of daylight is fading her drapes
- Farmer claims that daylight saving causes cows to get confused and produce
  less milk.
From: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Kilroy
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:18:12 GMT
Reply-To: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Organization: R&D, OTC Sydney, Australia

In article <1992Jul23.110044.25745@echo.philips.nl>, dolf@echo.philips.nl (Dolf Grunbauer) writes:
|> mc3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mary Rose Campbell) writes:
|> 
|> >ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Speed Freak) writes:
|> 
|> >Actually, the phrase originated in 1983 when Styx released the album
|> >"Kilroy was Here."  
|> 
|> I myself have read "Kilroy was Here" on walls, bridges, in tunnels etc long
|> before 1983.
|> 
|> I remember reading an article about KWH that in the 60's it was so
|> popular to write KWH that it even appeared at the top of the Eifeltower in
|> Paris and on (in ?) the head of the Statue of Liberty in New York.
|> 
|> The same article also stated that there were serious bets with some British
|> bookmakers that the first man (i.e. Neil Amstrong) on the moon would read
|> somewhere on a rock "Kilroy was Here".  So that bet must have been made before
|> 1969.
|> 
 I remember reading a report stating that the archaeologists who worked at
Pompei dug up a wall with the words "Kilroy hic erat" scratched on it.

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From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: that'd be in the butt, bob
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:42:37 GMT
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group

In <24851@dog.ee.lbl.gov> twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:


>   In article <2314@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
>  +In <1992Jul21.212142.29839@pony.Ingres.COM> rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger 
>	Leuthner) writes:
>  +
>  +>Tell this to a courtroom where there is a witness to a murder.
>  +
>  +With some work this, too, could be an AFU motto.

>Yes, it lacks the proper degree of angst and pathos.

I nominate "It lacks the proper degree of angst and pathos".

>Terry "Any takers?" Chan



						Steve
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Jimmy the Greek/weather-rape rap?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:17:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.205353.3146@desire.wright.edu> thayes@desire.wright.edu writes:
>In article <55412@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, 
>neath@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Ian Neath) writes:
>>> There was a local weatherman who was a quick-drawing artist called Tex
>>> Antoine for many years.  He is alleged to have said something like "if
>>> rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it" as some parable relating to some
>>> impending bad weather.
>
>[edited]
>
>> The original quote about rape came from the Republican candidate for
>> Governor of Texas, whom Ann Richards beat.  I believe the quote was
>> about increased taxes:  they are just like rape...
>        ***************
>        I think it was about weather too -- Texas rain storms.
>
>The Tex Antoine story is the original.  The ill-fated 
>gubenatorial candidate from Texas, Clayton Williams, muttered the rape
>comment many years after Tex Antoine did his verbal wilding thing.
>
>The *real* issue is not the Tex/Texas angle.  No, instead, ask yourself
>this: why were both comments relating rape to weather?  Hmmm...
>
>-----ted hayes

To the best of my knowledge, the Tex Antoine incident occurred in 1972-4.  I
assume this Williams incident occurred in the last five years.

cjl

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Chelsea Clinton Fan Club
Keywords: continental drift, get me?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:11:49 GMT
Organization: Loose Affiliation of Millionaires and Billionaires and Baby

Caroline E. Bryan writes:
>Chelsey has a lot of poise and presence, which is rather startling in
>a 12-year-old -- hence all the quivering antennae out in netland.

Is is really Chelsey? I must say my rosary a dozen times in penance.

As for the "poise and presence" spin, I must enter a stern demurrer.
I first noticed La Clinton because she looked like a real 12 year old
and not like the usual politco's lobotomized spawn. Or in the words
of the old Burt Bacharach song: "Lord, we don't need no more poise and
presence." And my antennae do not quiver -- this is not some Humbert
Humbert pheromone gag. Norman Rockwell, maybe. 
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Older than before.
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: a question...
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <1992Jul19.220225.21271@wpi.WPI.EDU>, terrylee@wpi.WPI.EDU (The 
Cookie Goddess) writes:

> Who is Kibo?? I'm new (relatively) and didn't know where else to ask...
> 
> terrylee@wpi.wpi.edu

And this from an "almost-a-Terry".

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ccuppern@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Cyndi Cuppernell)
Subject: Re: Orange Julius (Re: Moxie, submarines)
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:55:30 GMT

styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo) writes:

>In <14b25cINNs9p@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, Cyndi Cuppernell writes:
>>
>>1 teaspoon vanilla extract

>Are you sure it's "extract" and not just the 'vanilla flavour'
thing
>they make up from cheaper ingredients?

Is it a Kleenex or a tissue?  A Band-aid or a bandage strip?  

You're right.  I use imitation vanilla flavor.  When I did have a
bottle of real vanilla extract, privately imported from Haiti, a
number of years ago, the label on the bottle said to use 1/4 the
usual quantity specified in the recipe.  I don't know about the
more expensive stuff they sell at the local stores.  I've always
been happy enough (read that broke enough) to go with the cheap
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From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: ME-163 Komet
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:44:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
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In article <92212.164939WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> 
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>Not truly tailless, the Me-163 Komet did have a vertical stabilizer
>(a rudder) yet lacked horizontal stabilizers.  

That's true.  But the term "tailless" in most contexts refers only to the
lack of _horizontal_ stabilizers.  The only airplanes I know of that lacked
even a vertical stabilizer are the Northrop flying wings, from the small
single-seat prototypes of the Forties up to the B-2 Stealth bomber; I've 
seen the term used quite a few times in reference to a lot of airplanes 
other than those.


>Besides sporting the, for the time, novel tail structure it also lacked 
>landing gear using a belly- skid for take-offs and God knows what for 
>landings.

The Komet used a wheeled trolley for takeoffs, which would fall away as
the plane lifted off.  The skid was kept retracted for takeoff, and was
extended just prior to landing.


>Most of the fatalities attributed to the Komet not surprisingly occured upon
>take-off.

Several of them blew up on the ground, spontaneously.  Not very user friendly.



Geoff


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From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:25:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul21.122556.14809
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project

lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

   Or all meat products commercials that say "is 93% fat free" which
   merely means that the rest is totally fat, when there is clearly an
   attempt to get "extra credit" by causing a perception that since
   most of it is free of fat, perhaps the rest is only containing an
   "ordinary" quantity of fat, not the actual situation where it's
   entirely fat.

I remember seeing a bit on MacNeil/Lehrer about this some months ago
when the FDA or similar agency was blasting the food industry for this
misleading advertising technique.  The problem is that they measure
this "93% fat free" stuff by weight, and the easiest way to make the
product appear lower in fat is to add more water to it -- which does
absolutely nothing to change its nutritional composition.

-Sandra
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