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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re:      AAA and motorcycles...NOT!!!
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:11:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.185840.17588@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>From article <1993Jan27.173715.13397@fuug.fi>, by an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo):
>> I had always suspected that AAA would not deal with motorcycles, but
>
>Unfortunately, it depends on what part of the U.S. you live in. In
>Colorado, you can pay extra for "AAA Plus". This includes flatbed trucks
>and motorcycle towing. The standard AAA service does not cover this.
>However, AAA Plus wasn't even available as an option in Ohio, and I
>only discovered it in Colorado because my lovely and talented spousal unit,
>who (thank ghod) is always looking out for me, brought it to my
>attention when she moved our AAA membership.
>
>Caveat: I`ve yet to have to use AAA Plus service, so when I do, I might
>well get the same story the original poster heard.

The 10 point bonus question:  If you subscribe to AAA in Co, and
have motorcycle towing included, and you break down on the road
elsewhere in the country, is AAA required to honor your membership
privileges?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
 __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Re: Blue Ridge Parkway
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:19:06 GMT

egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>In article 1jme9tINN52i@seven-up.East.Sun.COM, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>>
>>The Blue Ridge Parkway begins, in the south, on the eastern side of the
>>Great Smokey Mountain National Park (slightly south of the line between
>>Knoxville, Tennessee, and Asheville, North Carolina).  It runs NNE
>>along the western North Carolina border, into Virginia, where it
>>continues on a NNE route, a few miles west of I-81.  
>                                        ^^^^
>EAST of I-81, of course.  Changing coasts got my directions all mixed
>up.

>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Gee - I thought it *began* in the NORTH at Front Royal VA and went south ...
depends on your geopolitical perspective I guess!

S.

-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com  (KotS)
 #  AMA #600897 "Gosh, that's the 3rd motorcycle that's passed us. Sure do take
#   DoD #0227    their life in their hands, what with the weather and all."
 #  INOA #8563   "Yes Janet, life's pretty cheap to that type."
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: alt.motorcycles.harley
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:57:05 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <C1GnGB.IIM@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>I note that the alt.motorcycles.harley group has gone terribly quiet.
>Got bored talking to your fellow owners? Same old subjects - you know,
>can't get it started, rust on the exhausts, where can I get a Harley
>beer coaster, etc.
>
>Well, welcome back guys, we didn't miss you at all. :-)
>Regards,

Um, alt.motorcycles.harley has been pretty dead for a long time now, but
REC.motorcycles.harley is alive and well. I receive from 10 to 30 new articles
per day in that newsgroup.
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: single vs. dual disk
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:22:01 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1993Jan21.044323.2907@pages.com>, bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
> Dances With Bikers writes
>> alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't anyone going to mention the weirdo "inboard" disc brake that Honda
>> toyed with on a couple of bikes a few years back? Or are those that have
>> them embarrased at being a victim of one of Honda's technological
>> practical jokes? :-)
> 
> Looking at the new Yamaha GTS wonderpuppy, it seems to have a single disk with  
> three-pot calipers, mounted inboard sort-of.  Guess old habits die hard.
> 
> BTW, would a single disk with two sets of two-pot calipers stop as well as  
> conventional dual disks with one set per disk?  Phyzziks, please.

Yes, it could be made to stop as well.  Single or twin or triple 
discs on one wheel doesn't really matter for that first stop. 
Continued use of the brakes, however, requires the rotors to shed 
the heat, which is a function of the surface area, volume and 
composition of the rotors.  The main disadvantage to a single 
front disc on a street bike is the slight torquing effect 
around the steering head bearing axis which most people would 
not even notice.
..........Dr. Doom
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RCR I pictures
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:19:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1993Jan26.165505.14234@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>Whomever has the pictures now:
>

when do we get GIFs of the RCR?

-- 
I hate the 3B2
The 3B2 can bite me.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Now here's a dumb question!
Keywords: moron, carburetors
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:43:33 GMT

heff@apollo.HP.COM () writes:

>The service manual never mentions such a procedure, not even as part of
>removing and disassembling the carbs.  My particular bike ('82 Yamaha 
>Vision 550) does seem to have overflow/vent tubes on or near the carbs.
>Does this mean my carb bowls don't need to be drained, or does it mean that
>generally it's so simple, they just assume you can do it?

I don't have a Vision (I dunno if I hould admit that, it seems like
almost every other FJ1200 owner on the net has a Vision as an auxiliary
backup bike), but I've seen two general types of float bowl drains. The
first is a rather large, usually brass, screw on one side near the
bottom of the bowl. The other is a large plug that screws into the
bottom of the float bowl (it's big enough to allow jet access too).

But the Vision has weird carbs as I remember, so I may be way off base.

Regardless, you DO want to drain your carbs, or one of these springs
you'll end up spending an afternoon de-spooging your carbs instead of
riding.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:41:43 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, tomes@iastate.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
>
>>One was on a GSX-R750, the other on a GSX-R1100.  Both had full race-style
>>leathers, race boots, knee-sliders, etc.  No luggage or anything.
>
>Which probably meant that they liked their skins and didn't want the impediment
>of having to pick up all the excess padding if they bite the big one.

You may be right, but they looked like total poseurs.  This seems like the
most likely explanation.

>
>Maybe these guys saw you two loaded to the gills and decided that they didn't
>want to mix it up with someone they didn't know in a foreign country.
>
[etc]
>
>If I were in a foreign country, and saw a couple of native types blasting 
>around, I would probably get out of their way, then MAYBE if I was the 
>adventurous type try to follow.  Probably not, it would depend on how illegal
>it was.
>
>Get a clue.  Not everyone is out there to kill corners all of the time.

OK, I'll make myself clearer.  It was a twisty road and we caught up with
them in about a mile or two.  They were going dead slow before seeing us,
couldn't say if they got fatser when we appeared.

They weren't not going fast, they were going excrutiatingly slow.  We are
_not_ quick (like I said about the old GS550 etc...), esp. not loaded up
like this, and these guys were so slow we couldn't do anything but get
seriously held up.  OK, we could have stayed behind, like we could have
not bothered overtaking the tour busses, tractors, grandmothers on bicycles...

These guys wre dressed to look like racers, and they were _so_ slow as to be
clearly incompetant, they weren't just taking it easy.  Hard to describe but
their style was just...  well they didn't have any.  They didn't know what
to do with corners.  You could tell.  It was _that_ obvious.

And what were they doing with their right hands?  Well we have a word for
people like that (can't ride/drive but go too fast in straight lines since
that's all they can manage), I assumed you did too...

Can't be bothered to say any more on the subject after this post.

-- 
# Tim Stickland # bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk #  It's not cynicism.  I just think   #
# School of Biology, Univ. of Bath,     #  people overvalue argument because  #
# Bath, BA2 7AY, U.K. # TEL +44 (0)225  #  they like to hear themselves talk. #
# 826826 x5864 # FAX +44 (0)225 826779  #   (Iain Banks)                      #
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Slippery stuff?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:17:40 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Bennett Lee Leve (bleve@hoggle2.uucp) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan25.150228.18469@aber.ac.uk> azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:

:  >>   - how do you ride in the dry? Seems to me dry roads are dangerous.

: Well, let me think hmmmm ...
: Oh yeah, I ride the same, but I take my rain suit off.
: --
: |Bennett "Strange DOSser" Leve    (This is the DoD, not DOS!)

Also, a lot faster.  Frighteningly so, especially on an overweight wobbling
K100RS.


Nick (the Frightened Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Wartime Spagthorpe
Distribution: world
Organization: Not much.
Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:18:37 +0000

Spagthorpe News

Seeing reference here to the flying of motorcycles, reminded me of what an
amazing find I made the other day. I was in the Public Records office
looking through some old patents that had recently been de-classified under
the 50-year rule. When I came across the name S. J. Spagthorpe on one of
them. "Could this be...?" I thought and pulled it out to inspect. Indeed it
turned out to be a patent that had been filed by a little known younger
cousin of the Spagthorpe family showing a Motorcycle for landing despatch
riders over the top of troops occupying a beach. It was equipped with what
appeared to be the equivalent of J.A.T.O packs which were not detailed as
they were merely referred to as the subject of another patent. The
accompanying figures clearly outlined a bike based on the pre-war Thunderer
prototype that vas never produced owing to the intervention of hostilities.
The main features seemed to be large flying surfaces either for lift or
control attached to the front suspension which appeared to have a wishbone
spring reinforcing the girder style front fork. Excitedly, I took the
document to be copied and handed it to the clerk. She took it out to the
back, I presumed to copy it. When she returned it was with a grim faced
little man who informed me that the document had been declassified in error
and it would be better for me if I forgot that I had ever seen it. I thought
that I had even better let the net know just in case anything happens to me.

Tony

+-----------------+-------------------------------+--------------------------+
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| Morgan Towers,  |Warmer with a 670 MB Hard Disk.| E-Mail                   |
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| England BR1 3QE |Honda ST1100  ==*==  DoD# 0801 | 100024.301@compuserve.com|
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From: gnome@pd.org (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: pitch for nat'l health (was insurance stuff
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:02:04 GMT
Organization: The Laughing Gnome Software Farm, Atlanta, GA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: noel.pd.org
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

 (ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu) wrote:
>[...]  Since nationalized health care is probably
>imminent it is pointless to postulate all the problems that will crop up as a
>result of it [...]

It's not pointless if you're also going to postulate some *solutions*
to those problems.

  -Mike

Mike Mitten - gnome@pd.org - ...!emory!pd.org!gnome - AMA#675197 - DoD#522
Irony is the spice of life.     '90 Bianchi Backstreet  '82 Suzuki GS850GL
From: tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Definitive HD TV/Vid Authorized Collectible
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <4619@cvbnetPrime.COM> rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Dick Bemben) writes:
>|In article <4612@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes:
>|>
>|> BLAH BLAH BLAH and other yuppie, extreme right positions and propagandae
>|> deleted...
>|>
>So, Tod, are you saying that if you killed you SO's dog and parakeet then it
>would be the noble thing to do, to run your $13,000 Hardley Toiletson off a 
>high cliff out of shear love for woman and Hardley's so that you can get
>more and also buy another Hardley in order to maintain the American way
>of life and riding?
>
>Dick Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com

Dick;

	First off; let me begin my reply. The "shear love of a woman" can
literally make a man do anything considered insane. If I a woman loved me
as I am imagining this woman loved the stupid bastard that pushed his bike
off a cliff; then yes I would push my very own bike off a cliff. 

	You see Dick, woman are the most sought after, and powerful forces
in the universe. It is too often that men underestimate their need for the
companionship of a woman; and more important, the loving and caring that
women possess and can share with a man. Woman are unsurpassed in beauty on
this earth. They are unsurpassed in the ability to express and eminate love
on this earth. As soon as men realize this and deal with it, we'll be better
off. It's not a matter of control as much as it is a matter of respect. Men
need to respect woman for what they are as woman, and as individuals.

Sincerely;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"


P.S.	Actually, come to think of it; this gal who would make me push my
bike off a cliff better be pretty stacked. I guess that would play a major
role in the decision after thinking about it a bit. I mean shit, my fuckin
bike would cost about $15k to replace.
From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:14:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com

In article 1tE@fulcrum.co.uk,  rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>
>Example:
>How many people regularly top 120 mph?		Very few indeed.
>How many bikes can exceed 120 mph?		Most 250cc +.
>

Me.
Mine.

The squid test for Brummies is whether you have circumnavigated Birmingham
by motorway in under half an hour (It's over fifty miles).
Tee shirts and trainers are optional.


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   U     #     (44) 203 692255           #
         #     DoD#226        GSXR1100L  #
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: CBR900RR
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:36:10 GMT

>In article <580.97.uupcb@compdyn.questor.org> ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) writes:
>
>> The CBR is easily the motorcycle that shows the most painstaking
>> attention to design details of any bike on the market today.

I see the torch of gross generality and hyperbole has been passed.

============================================================================
           Jono    DoD: 316    Beemers: '85 K100RS '92 R100GS 
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
           "Too much of a good thing is never enough." -Luba
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:09:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.163808.8887@znext.cts.com> erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) writes:
>
>	Geeze..are people really that shallow to think that you could jump
>a Harley off an overpass down 20 feet or so without it breaking? Me thinks
>Super Bob Wide Fat Glides aren't really built to handle such abuse...A
>CR500? Maaayybe.....
>
     Remember that Evil dude that used to jump over enough busses to keep
a medium size city moving? He used to jump nothing but Harleys because he
felt that there was nothing else that could take it. He made an exception
with his rocket powered canyon jumper, but that didn't work out so well.



Ed Campbell
        Email ed@Tekelec.com (seems to work)
doh 0000005774 

'57 FL '76 XLCH  My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:46:49 GMT

neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>>Dances With Bikers (blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com) wrote:
 
>>: Rev 1.1 added 1/4" x 3/4" slats every 6 or 9 inches to give some traction.
>>: This was because if I didn't have enough approach speed, and I gassed it
>>: on the ramp to compensate, the tires would just spin on the smooth
>>: boards. Now I can just putt up into the bed of the truck. I wouldn't
>>: care to try the stunt on a 2-wheeler, but it works perfectly with the

>I use a homebrew wooden ramp (5' x 12", 2" thick) to load my Sportster into the
>back of my full-size GMC pickup. The ramp board is smooth, but I've never had
>a problem with traction. I guess the Sporty just has so much low end torque 
>that all I have to do is ease out on the clutch and just give it enough gas
>so the engine doesn't stall and it goes up the ramp effortlessly.

True, the Quadracer has been accused of many things, but since it's a
2-stroke, low-end torque is not one of them. Another variable is the
height of the bed. My Toyota is 4WD so the bed is fairly high, and the
ramps are at a rather steep angle. Then again, it could be the stain
that I slapped on the ramps (just some all-weather stuff that was laying
around) to keep them from weathering made them slicker than normal.

But based on everyone's reports, it sounds like the strength of the
board is one thing I don't have to worry about.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jfriedl@TUBBY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl)
Subject: Re: Backed into
Reply-To: jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu
Organization: Omron Corporation / Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:11:19 GMT

pursell@cheshire.oxy.edu (William Robert Pursell) writes:
|> But seriously....this article has nothing to do with
|> the subject "backed into" or "re:backed into".  
|> I'm probably being overly sensitive, but I would
|> like to suggest that everyone start a new subject
|> line when they start up a new subject!

Just like you do, huh?
	*jeff*


DoD##4  Honda CBR250R Hurricane
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey Eric Francis Friedl   jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu -or- jfriedl@omron.co.jp
Omron Corporation, Section RZC, Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo Kyoto 617, Japan
Visiting researcher to the Mach Project, Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: halls656@piratesArmstrong.EDU (wes hall)
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:11:58 GMT

this just a test
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: NASTAR ski racing and MSF cornering similarities...
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:40:06 GMT

So living in the N'east has its winter weather - so I ski. It's as close to
riding as I can get in winter, besides I like it.  The last 3 years I have 
NASTAR'd at our local pimple of a mountain, Wachusett.  NASTAR is kind of
semi-Giant Slalom, semi slalom.  Last night, a great revelation came to me - 

... look through the corner (to the next flag on the course).

I'd been concentrating on the corner itself and not setting up for the next
corner, thereby drifting wide and having to cut way back in to make the next 
corner - not the best of lines to follow.
So on my second (of two) runs, I decided to follow the MSF advice and
whatta ya know!  each corner was smooth, tight, no drifting, and I picked up
.6 of a second! 

Summary: if you want to practice your look/lean/roll, NASTAR race!

Seriously - looking through the corner as far as you can was proven to me
so dramatically. Focusing on the distant point caused me to naturally aim for
that point and not look at where the skis were going. 

I will be a better rider this year ...

S.
-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com  (KotS)
 #  AMA #600897 "Gosh, that's the 3rd motorcycle that's passed us. Sure do take
#   DoD #0227    their life in their hands, what with the weather and all."
 #  INOA #8563   "Yes Janet, life's pretty cheap to that type."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rasimus@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Gagiva 900
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:47:40 GMT



        Would anyone tell, how much does Gagiva 900 cc
        cost in States?

        Arto