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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:14:18 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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Posted on 18 Dec 1992 at 09:37:08 by STEVE KUTZER 919-549-8723

Hmmm... that name sounds familiar from somewhere.  VMSHARE ?

Welcome in any case.

Tony H.
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Date: 12 Dec 1992 22:11:28 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>        >I am but an egg.
>        >
>        Well, you're certainly cracked....  But I thought you were better at lay
>ing
>        eggs than *being* one?
>
>Thought you were the Heinlein fan.  Think VMS.
>
I am, but it's been a good five years since I <ahem> cracked open
Stranger in a Strange Land.  Do you mean your brain is fried, or that you
have this urge to climb back into the nest?  
[or are you into group marriages....:-)]

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:57:19 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (71

>>Since each country has it own peculiar set of questions, it would also be
>>an indication of who is the most knowledgeable about the others countries.
>>Anyone want to play?
>
>I'm in. Prepare to eat dirt.

I have questions which one can't even look up. Cool, huh?

tushar
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Game begins! Blomberg's question
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        " What is the 'Blue Ensign'?"

I only played this once, but aren't they supposed to be multiple-
choice questions?  Or is that the dictionary game I'm thinking of?

G
PS SK should get this one easily.
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:22:47 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: My Top 10

This is the second time I have heard "Tushar gets new persona".
What is a persona, and what is my new one?

tushar
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:01:12 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Eat dirt!
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Remember some time ago when we were trying to come up with the word that
means 'dirt-eating'?  'Pica' was suggested as the term for the abnormal
craving for nonfood substances, and 'geophagy' ('geophagia' in the
medical literature) for the phenomenon of eating dirt either to supplement
the diet or for reasons of custom.  Came across an archaic word yesterday
for the same phenomenon -- 'chthonophagy'.  Just thought I'd share this.

--brad
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:24:16 EST
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
              18 Dec 1992 11:21:49 CST from <tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU>

BTW, Ronnie Spector's at the Front Row Theater in Cleveland tonight.

Evelyn
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: <sigh>
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>At least I don't have that nasty problem; all the local calls are free,
>except for the monthly fee just for having service.  SNET [aka SNOT] does
>have an option like you're describing, but given the amount of time this house
>spends playing with dial tones, the monthly charge is cheaper.
>
>
>--
>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

We get hit with a monthly charge as well. :-( Last bill it was $43.05 @ quarter
plus $0.25 per local call and I had my lowest bill in the last 12 quarters...
coincident with the 3 months after my middle son left home...... $183.80. I
thought about having another line installed for the modem, but when I found
out that was going to cost me a further $200.00 installation plus additional
monthly charges I decided to give it a miss. What are your monthly charges
like?

Carolyn
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:24:32 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Geometry of Boxes and Jugs
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> amazingly because it is the traditional gambit of mathematicians to make
> themselves less boring by quoting Donne at people. In particular, it is
> traditional for mathematicians to haltingly recite

Why "The Good Morrow"??  I would've thought mathematicians would prefer
the compasses in "A Valediction:...."

Perhaps more interesting, why do mathematicians like Donne??  And is it
significant that I loved math and that Donne has always been my favorite
poet??
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date: 20 Dec 92 17:54:00 GMT
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> You are now in the centre and have to answer this Literature question:

> "What's the name of the trilogy consisting of 'Sexus, Plexus and Nexus'?"

Torts, Contracts, and Property.

> If correct you can move 3 spaces and select any of the remaining topics.

I'd rather have 3 law school credits for free.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:28:43 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: ABH'S TURN
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On Sun, 20 Dec 1992 LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:

> It is now abh's turn to pick a category.

Uh, I forgot what they are, but if there's something like science, I'll
choose that.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:23:20 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Red Line Story
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>: In New York, you can definitely see out the front.
>
>NOT!  New York subway cars were designed by barbarians.  There's a
>motorman's window, and occasionally a porthole in the train door,
>but the front opposite the motorman's cab is blind.  Good thing
>there are no level crossings, because that window configuration would
>be downright unsafe.
>
>Steve Karlson

Allan used to take our kids to the front of the train, when
we were on a NYC subway, and they would thrill to watch out
the front.

I, ever the coward, would sit quietly several rows back, looking
at the floor.

love, judith
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:27:17 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: My Top 10

>I've been wondering about this.  I am used to using *asterisks* as
>BOLD indicators and <angle brackets> for sound effects and theatrical
>setting discriptions.  I would like to know what standard W-L usage
>is I don't look like a stupid newbie. =:-)

I find that last sentence internally inconsistent. Now if you are using
asterisks as bold indicators then I must ask you why your signature is
so emphatic. If the sig is a special case, then I agree that asterisks
are by far the best for bold indicators. If you are still thirsty for
knowledge of the standard "W-L usage", let me just say that there isn't
any. Just bung them in wherever you feel they should go and everyone
will nod their heads, mesmerized. Just like TV audiences, basically:
once they see the "Sender: words-l" field in the header they swallow
any nonsense, glazed expression on face and all.

If you think that it's stupid to use something LOOKING like parenthesis
marks to emphasize things, you are absolutely right. Your intuition for
what is aesthetically pleasing is spot on and you should write the faq
for alt.text.wizards. If you think, however, that punching the < and >
keys at random is a cool thing to do, then perhaps words-l IS the best
group for you.

This is not meant as a discouragement. Firstly, it is hypothetical, and
secondly, if it's true then you have only recognized your problem, which
is quite a healthy thing.

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:13:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Red Line Story

What I said:

>NOT!  New York subway cars were designed by barbarians.  There's a
>motorman's window, and occasionally a porthole in the train door...

Aaron Dickey notes ...

: Yes, you can.  As long as you're in the frontmost car and are willing to
: take your life in your hands by standing up and grasping one of the
: "straps", you can stare out the window of the front "door".

What I said.  That's the porthole ... hardly a railfan's seat.  If I'm
ever in Philadelphia, I'll organize a Words-L Railfan Seat sit-in on
the high speed lines.

: New York by choice...New York University by mistake.

De gustibus ... who ever heard of a pizza slice the size of a ladies'
fan, with crust so mushy you eat it by folding it over??

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:29:22 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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> anyone got the last couple weeks brad summaries to send me?  no, don't
> have time to dig thru archives....

All the brad summaries are in docs/words-l/List-Stuff.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Where Love Has Gone
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>And the Pillow Talk question was *too* *easy*.
>NO FAIR.

Just the luck of the draw, I'm afraid! Most of the Entertainment questions
seem reasonably easy to me and probably will to you too. It's the History
and Sports questions that will probably be the 'killers', but since everyone
has the same chance of getting an easy or hard question, regardless of the
category, it should all work out even in the end.... I hope so anyway.

>--ggs
>p.s. It's so nice to be in with the gang adin.

I'm glad you're back too. I was beginning to wonder what had happened to you.

Carolyn
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Subject: Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
Date: 13 Dec 92 09:04:11 GMT
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In article <101796@netnews.upenn.edu> bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer) writes:
>The "what to call a lurker" discussion was carried on pacs-l: I didn't 
>notice it being cross-posted.  Furthermore, most of the discussion was
>-by- lurkers, speculating on what they might like to call themselves
>if they decided to make any fuss about it (they mostly didn't: the
>negative connotations were pretty much in the minds of the non-
>lurkers, or 'mouthy').  Rita didn't get the whole story, at least
>at the point she'd posted the excerpt.  And no, I don't think there
>were -two- such discussions, as I recognized the bit she reposted.

I've seen the "lurker/label" discussion periodically over the last few
years, and although it generally tends to be rather silly, it's
obviously of interest to somebody or it wouldn't re-occur. Gosh--almost
like topics here.

More to the point is Rita's academic bashing--it's currently PC to
bash academics, and during a time of academic trashing in which the
consequences include a public backlash based on hysterical hyperbole
and misinformation, Rita's swipes are rather troublesome. It almost
tempts me to say "having read Rita's post, my opinion of secretary folk
has gone down another three notches".....
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:28:02 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
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On Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:18:00 EST, "gilbertsmith" <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
 wrote:
> In all my years of passing through locker rooms, the only guys I
> ever saw who were *really* built (?) like that were the body
> builders, and I always thought it was that they were body-builders

Spitting Image took their lives in their hands last year when they
did an evil skit of Arnie breaking down in tears over the size of
his manhood, and the fact that it had been publicised by some kiss&tell
merchant...

G
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:21:20 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English?
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> A Natalie et Bernard:
>   Joyeux Noel et Bonne Annee!

Merci!  C'est vrai -- j'ai eu tort de deduire que la langue ici etait
anglais!

                    **
                 ********        !                             !       1
       !            **                 JOYEUX NOEL         !      !
                   ixxi
    !             ixxxxi                      BONNE ANEEE 1993   !    !
         !       ixxxxxxi      !
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               ixxxxxxxxxxi       !     ixxxi               x
   !          ixxxxxxxxxxxxi           ixxxxxi       !     xxx     !
             ixxxxxxxxxxxxxxi         ixxxxxxxi           xxxxx       !
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           ixxxJOYEUX NOELxxxxi     ixxBONNExxxxi       xxANNEExx
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[design not original]

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Common law

Greetings,

I've made my initial foray into legal research and can make a preliminary
report at this time.  First, a couple of legal dictionaries note the
important historical links between English and American common law, as
does the Encyc. Brit. (which notes that "common law" is also known as
"Anglo-American" law.  It appears that Ausbrook's singling out of
Louisianans and Californians as folks who would be surprised to hear that
common law had any relevance in US jurisprudence may not have been
coincidence:  Louisiana and California are both singular instances of
the adoption of civil codes (can two things be singular?).  They are
unlike the rest of the states in that respect, for historical reasons.

Second: Ausbrook's statement that "English common law has *no* bearing on
any U.S. practice, except that of the historian" reflects a certain
callowness on his part.  If the statement is to be understood
as literally true, it might come as a surprise to Justice Blackmun,
author of the Roe v. Wade decision (or perhaps Justice Blackmun
understands something about the historical nature of law that eludes
Ausbrook).  In that decision, Blackmun spends 3 or 4 pages discussing the
treatment of abortion under English common law.  Indeed, Blackmun goes
so far as to cite legal scholarship from the 13th century.  Perhaps
the Normans, if not the Picts, still have some influence on our understanding
of justice?

Finally, although I have yet to trace down some 19th century cases in which
unwritten custom is cited, I have this to offer from the 1972
abortion case known as Doe v. Bolton.  Justice Douglas, in a
concurring opinion, wrote: "The Ninth Amendment obviously does not create
federably enforceable rights.  It merely says, "The enumeration in the
Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or
disparage others retained by the people."  But a catalogue of these
rights includes customary, traditional, and time-honored rights,
amenities, privileges, and immunities that come within the sweep of
"the Blessings of Liberty" mentioned in the preamble to the Constitution."

Douglas then goes on to enumerate many of these rights and cases that
establish them in written law.  I suspect tracing these cases back will
bring me to my desired conclusion.  Douglas also quote from the
decision in Meyer v Nebraska: " [liberty denotes...the right of the
individual to...enjoy those privileges long recognized at common law
as essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men."

Marty
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
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: which for the last 5 years has maintained integrity.

I'd have some sympathy if I didn't have a nagging recollection which side
you were on in the Project H debate...  this was a *list*, not personal
mail, right?

G
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:25:35 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: enclosed solicitation -- anyone else get one?
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  Graham says:

  >Exactly. That's why I always pursue junk paper mail till I find out
  >where they got my address from at which point I make them suffer:

  Yes, my comments were not directed at people who get upset about junk mail
of all kinds. Not that I see any point in chasing after purveyors of junk.
A big waste of time.

  >Anyone who says 'ignore it' clearly hasn't had his share of junk mail down
  >his own paid-for phone line...

  Sure I've had junk mail coming down my own paid-for phone line, but
the amount is completely negligible compared to the junk I generate
myself.  Junk mail, whatever its origin, purpose, or mode of
distribution, is a very minor annoyance, and one that is fortunately
easily ignored.
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>> That's what I did...now who do I call to get AT&T off my back?
>> Three phone calls and five pieces of mail to get me to switch back,
>> when I have explained clearly that if their rates were lower I'd
>> be happy to.
>
>Funny, but I don't get those calls.  I get calls from places that want
>to sell me a freezerful of meat, but I don't get calls from any of the
>phone companies.  Six of one....

You too?  Well, not always meat, but vinyl siding and replacement windows.
Then there are the hangup callers - the ones who pull you out of the shower
and hang up when you say "hello" semi-nude and dripping wet.....
>
>"By their bounces shall ye know them": sounds like a Fundamentalist
>strip show in Jersey City....  When this machine was created, I was
>moved from a system in this building called HLWPK (right down the
>hall) to MHWPA.  MHWPA is located at Murray Hill, six miles south, but
>as a "cost-saving measure," the people who administer the machine when
>it breaks about once a day are in Whippany, about 7 miles NORTH of
>here, so they have to drive through bad suburban traffic to get to the
>source of the problem.  Real cost-effective, right?  Ted Mack missed
>something with this joint.
>
Yeah, the last round of layoffs...maybe they should have downsized the top
of the pyramid too....  Where do these guys come from?

>The final cost savings is the physical move from this site to the
>Murray Hill facilities: seven connected buildings.  AT&T allegedly
>pays $4 million a year in rent for this place so the cleaning crew and
>security guards can come in here at night and burgle things (software,
>tape recorders, pens).  All I'm gonna get out of this move is an extra
>forty minutes a day in my car, plus I can be NEAR the machine that
>nobody on site can fix anyway because they're someplace else.
>
>Science fiction, anyone?
>--
How I learned to love that bomb!  Hmmm - anyone know where we can lay
hands on some sulphur?  How does one make a stink bomb anyway?:-)
This all reads like  a Douglas Adams book....or maybe Terry Pratchett....

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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>        Reminds me of sign put on music store at lunch: Bach at 1. Offenbach
>        even earlier. GWW
>
>Gone Chopin - Bach in 3 minuets...
>
Open again, forgot Liszt, Verdi assistant's Hayden it I don't know....

Closed until Rondo Midnight....

[ask again, we'll make more....]
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In a previous article, gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:35:11 +1000, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:
>> Do I really? That's the first time I've ever been accused of that. I've always
>> excelled at 'male-type' things but never been much good at those things women
>> are traditionally supposed to be good at.
>
>Yeah?  Bet you can't pee over the wall!
>
Why would she want to?  Unless Tushar were on the other side, maybe....

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From: harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell)
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Subject: My Top 10
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:43:44 GMT
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Five lowlights:

5). The Louie Crew letters
4). Aaronology Episode
3). Giggles' Family Feud
2). ProjectH
1). The 10 days I was cut off by an errant backhoe

Five Highlights

5). Giggles' introduction of <> becomes standard W-L usage
4). Meat Nights I and II (W-L phone phrenzy)
3). W-L T-shirts
2). Clambake '92 [you know who you are]
1). All the love and friendship and other good vibes from [you others who
    know who you are]

Honorable mention:
*Tushar gets a new persona

-abh
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