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From: sas@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (s.a.sullivan)
Subject: Re: THE FIRM (Who's in it?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:24:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.134327.4149@mloeff01.cpchq.cpc.gmeds.com> dah@cveng121.veheng.det writes:
>
>I believe Julia Roberts has been selected for the Pelican Brief (by John Grisham)
>as the female law student (Darby ???).

Please,please,please don't let Julia Roberts play Darby Shaw....I read the book and Julia is not even close to the image that Darby is supposed be...maybe 
somebody like the girl that plays O'connel on Northern Exposure.
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Subject: Evil Dead III
From: <SHUMAKER@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 12:06:29 EST
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services

Does anyone know the exact release date for evil dead iii and how widespread it
 will be released.  Any information will be appreciated.


Greg
From: eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Abyss .. again
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:04:39 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

How does the SPCA get by with killing 15 rats during the Abyss filming?
This was not a problem.  The stunt vermin used in the scene in question
were criminal rats that deserved to die anyway.  So take that, you
tree hugging, rat kissing liberals.
From: gharriso@vancouver.gssec.bt.co.uk (Grant Harrison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Abyss .. again
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:06:48 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


The Abyss was shown in the UK last night. I know this film has
been discussed frequently before, but here's a question I haven't
seen answered yet.

Can anyone confirm or deny the existance of the breathable liquid
which is shown in the film. You know, the stuff the rat breathes
and survives ( so does Ed Harris). I remember being told a couple
of years ago by a friend that the stuff actually exists but seeing 
the film again last night re-awakened that old scepticism.

GH
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From: juneja-anurag@yale.edu (Anurag Juneja)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: S & E Memo to the Academy
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:16:17 -0500
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In article <C1FIM8.77L@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney) writes:
>Cathy A. Benney (cathy@nosc.mil) wrote:
>: Hello fellow net users,
>: 
>: Last night (Sun. Jan 24), S & E were doing a Memo to the Academy
>: show.  When I tuned in to it, they were discussing a movie that
>: they said was a definite possibility as their best film of 92.  
>: They mentioned that it had a very violent opening scene, but the
>: violence wasn't continued after that.  It sounded like a movie
>: worth seeing, but I didn't get it's name.  Did anyone else see
>: this S & E, and if so, could you send me an email telling me the
>: movie's name?  I remember that the movie they reviewed just AFTER
>: this one was Malcolm X.
>: 
>: Thanks in advance,
>: 
>: 	Cathy
>
>
>Eeek. I had the same experience. Please post the name of this film so
>we can all know what it is!
>--
>


Even though I did not see S&E, the movie you describe sounds like
'ONE FALSE MOVE'. It was also on S&E top ten lists. Its available
on video and its a pretty decent movie.



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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:52:36 GMT

In article <1k1lovINNdbi@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby) writes:
>
>Are you sure George Lucas directed American Grafitti?

Absolutely.  Lucas was the director of "American Grafitti".  Spielberg had
nothing to do with this film.

It's rather interesting that Lucas shows little interest in returning to
non-fantastic films.  He's supposed to be working on a film about a
group of black flyers during WWII, but that doesn't seem to be anywhere
near shooting, and may never get there.  In the meantime, he seems 
preoccupied with "Young Indiana Jones" and the possibility of future
"Star Wars" films.

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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:39:38 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan27.173011.23702@news.tufts.edu>,


I wrote:
>>The other I also saw a James Stewart western called "Winchester '73" that
>>featured early appearances by:
[...]
>>Tony Curtis as a cavalryman with one line.

So gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>       Was that one line "Yondah lies the stockade of my Majah"?

[upon finding the title character, a rifle] "Hey, can I keep this?"
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From: u0f98@keele.ac.uk (DJ Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: SCENT OF A WOMAN
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:45:19 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England
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I've seen clips of this film on Cinema Cinema Cinema (why did they
change the title from Cinemattractions?) and I can't work out what the
name of the girl is who's in it. Can someone please tell me what other
films she's done ?
Email preferred.
	Dominator
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From: hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu (Brent Hutto)
Subject: Re: Diane Keaton's _Heaven_
Reply-To: hutto@smtc.engr.scarolina.edu
Organization: NIST Southeast Manufacturing Technology Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:38:12 GMT

In article <1k29p5$fcj@agate.berkeley.edu>, annie@garnet.berkeley.edu  (Anne Jessop) writes:
>In article <1k23v3INN9nu@morrow.stanford.edu> FA.TJM@forsythe.stanford.edu (Thom McKean) writes:
>>I would like to recommend highly a wonderful film by Diane Keaton
>>called "Heaven."
>
>Me too.  I think this film is great.  And touching.
>
>>Can anyone recommend any other films even remotely close to the feel
>>of "Heaven?"  I'd like to know...
>>
>>Thom
>
>
>Yes.  As a mentioned in one of those "Son of 'Weird Films'" posts, _Heavy
>Petting_ is similar (slightly).  The set up is simialr: filmed interviews
>of people answering questions about a topic which limits itself (heaven, or in
>this case, post-baby-boomer sex), but then gets expanded in the
>interviews into something amazing and/or funny and/or poignant depending
>on the individual experience/take of the interviewee.  The "big"
>difference is that Heavy Petting interviews "famous (counterculture) people":
>David Byrne, Sandra Bernhart, Spalding Gray, Abbey Hoffman, etc.  What I like
>about Heaven is the way "real people" spin out their ideas about heaven
>and the hereafter.
>Another film that seems to get "remotely close to the feel of Heaven" is
>_True Stories_, for reasons that are exactly opposite to what is similar
>about Heavy Petting.  True Stories takes up the idea of "folks talking
>about a theme", but they are total non-celebrities. (Although John Goodman
>and Swoozie Kurtz among other "famous" people are in it, playing
>smalltownnobodies.)  It connects up with Heaven in my mind fo the
>attention it pays to the idiosyncrasies of "real" (although "fictional")
>people as opposed to celebrities.
>
>I may be stretching your definition of "remote," but in any case I think
>you would be interested in these films.
>
>Let me know what you think,
>
>Annie

    I haven't seen "Heaven" or "Heavy Petting", but I have seen "True Stories".
    For me the next link in the similarity chain is the Talking Heads video
    cassette called "Storytelling Giant". The main part of this tape is taken
    up with a number of Talking Heads music videos. However, the transistion 
    between videos consists of "nobodies" talking about subjects such as death
    and sex for anywhere from 10 seconds to a minute or so at a time. The way
    in which the videos are arranged (their sequence) along with the bridge
    interview bits produces a certain "feel" that is similar to what I imagine
    "Heaven" has.

    I need to find a copy of "Heaven" to watch this weekend, I guess...

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Brent Hutto
hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu
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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Film Noir
Keywords: Articals on Film Noir 
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:37:02 GMT

In article <mills.17@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> mills@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mike Mills) writes:

>Does anyone have any information or thought on American Film Noir. There 
>doesn't seem to be much available.
>                                Thanks
>                                 Mike


Paul Schrader wrote some excellent material on Film Noir, I can't remember 
if it was an article, or a book, I think it was a book. Check your library, 
I would, but I have my system down at the moment.


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library Data Control, University of Utah.
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From: kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Well known actors as punks
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:18:31 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
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In article <1993Jan23.011247.29809@madnix.uucp> zaphod@madnix.uucp (Ron Bean)  
writes:
> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>  
> >Wow!  I think you have something going here Kurt, I can add four more:
> >
> >3.      Willem Defoe as a punk in _The Hunger_ harassing Susan Sarandon.
> >
> >4.      Matt Frewer (Max Headroom) as a punk that tries to bother  
_Supergirl_.
> >
> >5.      Bill Paxton (Aliens) lends some clothes to Arnie in _The  
Terminator_.
> >
> >6.      Daniel Day Lewis as a gay street punk in _My Beautiful Laundrette_.
>  
> 7. Henry Winkler as a punk in "The Lords of Flatbush".
>  
> ==================
> zaphod@madnix.UUCP (Ron Bean)
> uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!zaphod

Well, not perhaps technically a punk, but certainly a nasty...

  8. Pierce Brosnan as a vicious young IRA killer who murdered
     a man in a shower stall in "The Long Good Friday".

Karen Fegley
Sbratus Computer, Inc.
kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.computer
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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: The Abyss .. again
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:05:23 GMT

In article <GHARRISO.93Jan25090648@vancouver.gssec.bt.co.uk> gharriso@vancouver.gssec.bt.co.uk (Grant Harrison) writes:
>Can anyone confirm or deny the existance of the breathable liquid
>which is shown in the film. You know, the stuff the rat breathes
>and survives ( so does Ed Harris). I remember being told a couple
>of years ago by a friend that the stuff actually exists but seeing 
>the film again last night re-awakened that old scepticism.

If I remember properly (I think an explanation/background was given in
the novel of the Abyss on this, but it's been a loong while since I
read it so bear with me), the breathable liquid does not exist per se,
but the idea was based on some research and experiments conducted back
in the 60s, which should that such a system was not impossible.  There
were problems, however, and I think the research was abandoned.

So while the "liquid air" does not exist, it is possible and even somewhat
plausible.  Certainly no harder to accept than a tendril of water 8-).
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From: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: UK STRANGERS ON A TRAIN
Reply-To: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:52:43 GMT

I read in FILM COMMENT magazine (Truly a great publication) that Alfred
Hitchcock made a version of STRANGERS ON A TRAIN that was released only in the 
UK and was shown on Cinemax last March.

The differences are as follows:

1.  Bruno is more violent and strange during his initial conversation with
	Guy.  This scene is extended and Bruno's true insanity is brought 
	forth.

2.  The penultimate scene, in which Guy and Ann walk away from a minister on
	a train, is deleted.  Instead, it is replaced with a scene at Ann's 
	house, with Barbara answering a telephone call and telling her parents
	that Guy plans to marry Ann.  He didn't say this in so many words, but
	it is implied.

Anyone that could give me any information on how I can order this version of
STRANGERS I would be indebted to forever.  

Thanx a lot,

and Happy Trails,

Todd @ Brandeis
st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: PEEVES AT MOVIE THEATERS
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:52:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.082752.9922@athena.mit.edu> crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man) writes:

>Was the [Howard Ashman dedication in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST] before the
>movie or just before the end credits

Neither.  That was my point.

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From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The first movie star (was: Leeper Screws the Pooch on CHAPLIN)
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:14:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1993Jan22.163852.23107@cs.ucla.edu>, reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu
(Peter Reiher) wrote:

> Lawrence was a very big star at the time, one of the
> very, very few performers who audiences in large numbers were willing to
> pay money to see in a film.  (Being a star was a lot harder when nobody
> knew your name.)  Pickford, arguably, was a bigger star even at that time,
> and unarguably developed into a much bigger star than Lawrence ever was.
> But Lawrence was plenty big, for her time.

All right, fine.  For the record, Mary Pickford joined Biograph in 1909.  
She, too, went to IMP for a short time, but returned, and by 1912,
she was Biograph's leading lady, whereupon she left and joined
Lasky's Famous Players.  By 1914 - in Tess of the Storm Country -
she was hailed as the pre-eminent movie star in America, and
was generating more box-office revenue than anyone.  From this
point until 1931, a Mary Pickford film never lost money, and
she made plenty of films.  She retired from the screen in 1933
filthy rich, but continued in her capacity as a co-founder of
United Artists until 1955, where she was the last of the originals
to go (after Chaplin).  A remarkable woman, who probably deserves
her own film.

> Lillian Gish is one up on all of the actresses we've talked about so far - 
> she's still alive and occasionally active in film.  She was also one of the 
> biggest stage actresses of the 1930's and 1940's, and got starring roles
> in films in the 1950's.

Actually, Lillian Gish was Pickford's closest friend - and was introduced
to D.W. Griffith by Mary during her tenure at Biograph - putting
Gish in on the beginning of the film industry as well.  The two
had worked on the stage together as girls, and Pickford never
denied Gish's superior acting talent.  As I recall, Gish received
a standing ovation at a fairly recent Academy ceremony, where she
was given her Lifetime Achievement Award (Pickford received one in
76 or so - though cynics claim her Oscar in 1929 - for a speaking
role, actually - was in fact a lifetime award, and not 'competitive',
because the film, Coquette, was dull - but that's Hollywood).
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Leeper Screws the Pooch on CHAPLIN
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:36:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1993Jan22.163140.281@microsoft.com>, frankm@microsoft.com
(Frank R.A.J. Maloney) wrote:

> Sam Goldwyin said: "It took longer to make one of Mary's
> contracts than it did to make one of Mary's pictures."

Another Goldwyn blurb:  Ten thousand dollars a week and she
walks to work.

There are several wonderful encounters between Goldwyn and Pickford
documented in the Goldwyn biography.  In one, he sends a message
boy into his partner's office to tell Pickford he wants to speak
to her.  She goes into his office, and says:  "Mr. Goldwyn, the next
time you wish to speak to me, you will come yourself.  You will
not send a message boy." And then she leaves.  She would abuse
him every chance she got, and let him out of his contract at
United Artists only after his wife literally begged her to, on
the floor, at Pickfair.
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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Complete list of Criterion LDs
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:20:22
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In-reply-to: bill@bilver.uucp's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:58:13 GMT

bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
|isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
|>Anyone have a complete list of Criterion releases (and/or upcoming
|>releases)?  Please email, if you do.

|Spend a nickel on a phone call.

|(310) 451-1383   That's the Voyager company.  I just got their
|latest catalog earlier this week.  16 pages and lists all their
|release, including time, color/bw, year of release, price, etc

I avoided the nickel by calling 1 (800) 446 2001.  My catalog is in
the mail (I called last night around 9pm EST).

By the way, thanks to everyone for the info!
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From: ts_rost@pavo.concordia.ca (*TsR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Raising Cain (spoiler?)
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:46:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <81902@hydra.gatech.EDU>, roy@prism.gatech.EDU (Roy Mongiovi) writes...
>OK.  I just saw "Raising Cain" (it's just out on home video),
>and I'm totally confused.

I had a rotten time seeing it in the theatre - I was completely into it, but I
was at one of those screenings at which 95% of the audience spent their time
socializing and gabbing with their friends rather than being engrossed in the
film. I went to a matinee a week later, which was completely quiet, but it
wasnt the same since I already knew what would happen in the movie.

Spoilers ahead...





>Supposedly Carter/Cain/et al is the crazy one, but if that's
>the case, I don't understand all the events involving the
>wife (and others)....

Carter is the "innocent", shy personality. Cain is the rotten, crazy one who 
takes over when someone needs to be killed or "taken care of".


>Doesn't she die after Carter dumps her in the lake?  The

Apparently not... she explains it all in the scene where she's with Jack at the
police station, and says she escaped from the car and swam to shore.


>cops DO find her body and show it to the old lady doctor,
>don't they?  Or was the body someone else (what with the
>expression on her face, I wasn't sure who it was).  Yet

That was the woman, Karen, whom Cain killed and stuck in the trunk - the one 
who was in the car with him, driving home with her kid and his, and he 
"chloroformed" her and knocked her out at the beginning of the film, remember?
 He just knocked her out, and didnt kill her - when they show her in the 
morgue with the crazy expression on her face, and say her nails were broken, 
that's because she woke up while the car was drowning - and she tried to 
get out.

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From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Lambert in FORTRESS
Distribution: world
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Date: 24 Jan 93 01:33:02 AEDT
Organization: Disorganized...

In article <1993Jan22.105812.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

> > yellow line, pain. If they move outside the red line, their stomach
> > explodes. This is a thinly disguised steal from the Rutger Hauer
> > made-for-cable film "Deadlock" (or "Wedlock" if you're in Australia...).
>
> Which was also used in _The Running Man_, and I'm sure quite a few
> movies/stories before that as well.  I don't believe the HBO film _Deadlock_
> was any great collection of novel ideas.

No, but it wasn't intended to be serious, either, despite many people
assuming it was. According to the director and star of "Fortress" they are
making a serious political and social statement!!!

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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: Rising Sun
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:27:40 GMT

In article <C19xGw.H6C@csulb.edu> mig@csulb.edu (Mig Gomez) writes:

>   Hmmm... Looks like a Michael Crichton summer. Jurassic Park
>   opens in June also. I can't wait.
>
>   Who's directing "Rising Sun"?
>
>
>mig
>
>-- 
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I believe Philip Kaufman is directing.  Kaufman collaborated with George Lucas
on the story idea that became "Raiders of the Lost Ark"!!  I can't wait either!

Jake Vaughan