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From: zedaker@next05wor.wam.umd.edu (pmw)
Subject: just drove a fox
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:41:52 GMT

Hello,

I just discovered this group tonight after only yesterday I drove my first  
VW.  It was also my first time driving a manual car.  Even though I was in  
the process of learning how to drive "stick" I still noticed how it drove  
100% better than my car (a 1986 Nova "Japanese" thing). {Went to beer expo  
in D.C. with friend, friend drove, and friend was not good to drive back  
home...etc.}

Anyway, I can't afford to really go all out, but does anyone know where  
there is a group that posts VW cars for sale?  Or is it usually done here?   
I guess I would probably be interested in a Fox since it appears to be the  
most affordable.  

Excuse any ignorance that I might have.  

--P  {you can also email me-->zedaker@wam.umd.edu}
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: vasu@owlnet.rice.edu (Srinivas Veerapaneni)
Subject: Re: puddle problems
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:59:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.215546.26983@athena.mit.edu>, janson@athena.mit.edu () writes:
>vw gurus:
>in the last few days yet another thing has appeared, that causes
>me greater worries:when i've driven through puddle, both the battery and the oxs lights glow.
>they don't come on full. they just glow a bit and then fade out
>after a few seconds or as soon as i accelerate.

>>
From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
This is really common especially if you have A/C. The water gets into
the A/C clutch and also in the pulley. The A/C belt actually drives
the water pump from the crank pulley. The alternator gets driven
from the water pump pulley. When you go thru a puddle, the belts
slip, the alternator "stalls"...your ALT light comes on. The 
OXY light comes on because its designed to come on whenever
the alt light comes on as a way of letting you know the oxy
light works when you first turn on the ign. key.

Ric Golen
<<

today it rained heavily and just to see if my VW (84 rabbit, w/ A.C.) also has
the same problem as Janson's car, i drove through a poodle and noticed
that the alt. light glows (just as janson explained). thanks Ric,
now i know what is happening.
-- 
vasu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: jframe@unlv.edu (Jason Frame)
Subject: Re: Two Newsgroups or One?
Organization: UNLV
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 06:58:25 GMT

In article <cePDVB7w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>cschweis@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chip Schweiss ) writes:
>
>> Ralph.C.Lindenfeld@dartmouth.edu (Ralph C. Lindenfeld) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> >  I'd like to see the newsgroup break up into two. While there are some
>> >articles that are of interest for both water and air folks, these can
>> >be cross-posted. 
>> >  My gripe with having one newsgroup is that a lot of the 'water talk'
>> >ends up digressing to audis, toyotas, hondas, etc.. having little to do
>> >with VW's. I find myself wading through lots of irrelevant stuff that's
>> >not immidiately apparent by the subject header. 
>> >  If rec.autos.vw broke into two I'd probably still subscribe to both,
>> >but I'd end up reading rec.autos.vwater every once in a while and doing
>> >an 'article dump' more often.
>> >  I think air and water cooled interests are sufficiently different to
>> >warrent at least a vote on the matter... 
>> 
>> >Ralph Lindenfeld
>> >1960 VW Panelvan
>> 
>> 
>> You have my vote.  I too get tired of wading through the water cooled
>> discussions.
>> 
>> Chip Schweiss
>> 1969 Karmann Ghia
>> 
>
>
>And mine.
>Jason Frame
>71 Super  1835cc
>
>Robert Smits            | Water? I don't need no steenking water!
>emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca   |


Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: Judson West <jwest@r3vm.dsd.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Passat?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7574839910149F5@jwest.dsd.trw.com>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:19:53 GMT
Organization: TRW Space & Electronics Group
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:19:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.134847.26178@bmerh85.bnr.ca> Jeffrey Seymour,
seymour@bnr.ca writes:
>I am considering buying a '91 passat GL.  Does anyone have anythig
particularly 
>good or bad to say about passats.  I am a bit concerned about
maintenance costs 
>and about the cam chain. 

I have a S90 Passat with 24K miles on it. The only major problem Iave had
is related
to the transmission. Iave had it in the shop 4 times over the past year
for two problems.
The one problem was that for some reason the transmission would start
from a
stop in second gear. Then shift to third at 4500 RPM. If you turned off
the engine
for about 10 seconds, or longer, it would act normally. The other problem
was a
delay in shifting into Drive (or any forward gear). Both of these
problems appear
to be fix after the last visit to the dealer. He replaced the computer
three times and
finally replaced the transmission.

Other than that, I have been very happy with the car.
From: andrew@airs.com (Andrew Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Modifying directionals on '88 Golf
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:45:23 GMT
Organization: Infinity Development, Waltham, MA

brooks@dvs.com (Walter Brooks) writes:

>Has anyone every tried to connect the front SIDE parking lights in parallel
>with the front directional (signal) lights?

This will increase the total current draw in the flasher system, which
will make your directional flash more slowly.  This is exactly the
opposite of what happens when one of your directional bulbs burns out
and it flashes more quickly.  I would recommend against doing this
without also modifying the flasher relay to flash at a more normal
pace, since the slower flasher will be less noticeable.

-- 
Andrew Evans (andrew@airs.com) - Infinity Development Systems - Waltham, MA
From: tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Two Newsgroups or One?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 07:41:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


I feel that the same things that make the aircooled cars appeal to enthusiasts
are present in the watercooled cars; simlicity and solidness, so we have some-
thing in common. I bought my Jetta partly because of the active user group,
which group got a lot of momentum from the bug folks. I read Hot VW's even
though I don't have an aircooled car, and I read bug postings. One group.

-TC
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Replacing the pan, other stuff
Date: 12 Dec 1992 08:52:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, 8635660@nessie.cc.wwu.edu (Jay Lonner) says:
>Okay, so much for my questions, now let me say my bit about the water-cooled
>vs. air-cooled controversy, and the idea of an antifreeze company conspiracy... 
>I like the new VW's fine, we have an '85 Vanagon and an '87 Jetta.  Nice cars
>and all, I'd rather have them than a Ford, but they still lack something that
>the air-cooled versions had (and have).  Namely, simplicity!  Fuel injection
>and emissions control systems and radiators and all that jazz make cars harder
>to work on -- you need to have computerized equipment and special tools and all
>kinds of special knowledge.  They are designed to be repaired by professionals. 
>I am not into going fast and I am into doing my own repairs, and therefore I
>like the air-cooled models better.  They aren't necessarily better cars, they
>just match my personality (and my budget).

just don't forget, VW was a pioneer in fuel injection, and offered it on
many of the aircooleds.  68 is the first year i know of, but this doesn't
mean there were not others eariler.  The simple fact is, that fuel injection
was better, but only for stock motors, and only if you could afford someone
to fix the "brain" crap.(a primitive computer)  This is why MOST people go to
carbs, even on FI orig cars..the FI was basically not that good.(primitive!)
you can do much the same on many of the new watercooleds, but why? the FI now
is much more efficient than the carbs could ever hope to be(unless you want
cheap performance, and don't care about emmisions, and do not wish to spend
the $$$ to upgrade the FI, which nets better results!)  I contend that
up until VW added thier ECU controled FI(motronic? i have trouble rememebering
the names of each) they were nearly as easy to work on as the old aircooleds!
A bit more complex, but ran better, quiter, faster, cleaner, more powerful...
the aircooldes had their place, and still do(namely, people like you's hearts!
nothing wrong w/ that!).  But that place was made useless by the fact that
in order to pass emmisions, they had to use the higher tech design!(namely,
FI, Catalytics,etc) and the air cooled couldn't take it.  this doesn't mean
it was a bad design, just not as good when it came to coping w/ emmissions.
and power...well..like you said, some do not care, but when you do....
h2o is the only way to go in VW!

>my Bug running until the day I die.  Who needs that damned speed-activated
>spoiler, anyway?
anybody who wants to go over 45mph! :-)

best of both!
DREW
From: bugman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matthew Ethan Soiney)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: two groups or one?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:53:48 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

thought the air-cooled people might like this one....

My 12 days of christmas:

on the first day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 one Hazet toolkit.
on the second day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 two NOS semaphores. 
on the third day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 three new seat covers.
on the fourth day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 four EMPI five spokes.
on the fifth day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 five new gears   (gotta really stretch this one)
on the sixth day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 six oil change kits.
on the seventh day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 seven cases of oil
on the eighth day of christams my true lovbe gave to me...
 eight new valve guides
on the ninth day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 nine feet of clutch cable.
on the tenth day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 ten rotten beetles!!!!
on the eleventh day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 eleven shows this summer
on the twelveth day of christmas my true love gave to me...
 twelve new piston rings.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 11:38:16 MST
From: <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>Jo Namio
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject:    VW giggle

Came out of the house to my 66 Beetle this morning to find that some
very inept burglar had tried to rip off the tape player. Not only
did this incredibly stupid person empty the glove box all over
the front seat, he couldn't get the radio out of the dash. He pulled
off the plastic piece fronting the radio, yanked off the knobs and
of course couldn't yank OUT the tape player. He then tried to push
it back into the dashboard. Too stupid to pop the bonnet and take it
out. Also too stupid to realize that a person who drives a 66 VW with
a hippie paint job has nothing of value to steal ANYHOW.

J.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos,misc.forsale,ba.market.vehicles
From: rudi@netcom.com (Rudolf Usselmann)
Subject: VW Corrado Wheals 4 Sale
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: VW Corrado Wheals 4 Sale
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:13:54 GMT



VW Corrado Wheals 3 Sale 
  
I have 4 original VW Corrado aluminium wheals for Sale. 
One of them is slightly bent, the other have a few 
scratches, but are in fair condition.  
  
If you are interested please call me with an offer. 
You must be able to pick them up in Fremont. 
  
rudi 
uupsi!sparc!rudi  (rudi@sparc.com)  
home: (510) 745-7834  
work: (415) 321-8692
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:29:26 EST
From: <AJM106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Vanagon Oil Strainer Question

I have an '81 air-cooled vanagon.  In addition to the oil filter, the engine
has an oil strainer that needs to be removed and cleaned periodically.
I've never done it myself, but now I need to figure out how to remove
it myself to clean it.  There doesn't seeme to be any means of getting a
wrench or socket on it to loosen it, and it doesn't appear to be any way
to loosen it by hand.  It looks like the strainer is made out of aluminum, so
I'm afraid to force it.  Has anyone had experience cleaning the strainer?
If so, please let me know how it's done.  Thanks.

Andy
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: VW on LSD!?!?
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:52:32 GMT

In article <BzJCCG.HCp@mach1.wlu.ca> shap5535@mach1.wlu.ca (Jason Shapiro u) writes:
>Well I just saw my first REAL WORLD A3 Golf. I'd seen them before in pictures
>etc. but this time I was driving into Toronto on the 401, and BAM!! there was
>a bright red, 4 door Golf, and man was it UGLY! 

[etc]
 
well, i've seen it up close and have actually gone inside and poked
around.  the interior is a great improvement over the A2, much more
inviting.  i also happen to like the exterior styling, where the roof
curves down towards the back like a civic.  i don't think the car is
meant to be beautiful; it is meant to be as inoffensive as possible to
the millions of europeans who will be buying it and also not to look
too old 6 or 8 years down the road when they replace it.

i remember back in 1985 when the new A2 GTI first came out.  I was in
the market for a car then and got seriously turned off by the styling
the way you did with the A3 golf.  all the pictures in the euro rags
had the twin round headlights.  the us versions had those ugly
rectangular jobs.  i ended up buying a scirocco instead, with 10 less
horses and a older generation chassis.  over the years, the A2 styling
has gotten pretty "normal" looking to my eyes.  it certainly withstood
the test of time quite well.  i guess the A3 will follow suit.

how many of you remember your first reaction to the passat's styling and
how it is now?  how about the current prelude?  i must say the exterior
looks a lot less ugly to my eyes now that it's been around a bit..


eliot
From: bugman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matthew Ethan Soiney)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: 71' beetle questions
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:26:24 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Dec15.050911.25757@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM (REACH OUT AND GREP SOMEONE) writes:
>	I was wondering if there was any difference in size
>of front fenders for a  '71 Super Beetle and a regular beetle. I'm
>planning on changing fenders, but I don't want to spend my money and
>time messing with the wrong sized fender in a junk-yard. Does anyone
>know? Thanks in advance.
>
the fenders are very different and can not be interchanged.  The super
front fender is rounded off at the front while the standard is not.  
this is kind of hard to explain.  have a look at the two types of 
fenders and you will see.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Splitting this Group
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:17:00 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

where@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:

>    Whether Air or H2O, It's still A VW!!!!!!!

Phooey! Real Volkswagens are air-cooled and have engines in the back, 
where Ferdinand Porsche put it. :-) :-)


Robert Smits            | Water? I don't need no steenking water!
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca   |
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: dysart@bnr.ca (Keith Dysart)
Subject: Re: Modifying directionals on '88 Golf
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:35:33 GMT

Followup-To: 
From: dysart@bnr.ca (Keith Dysart)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Subject: Re: Modifying directionals on '88 Golf
Keywords: 

A better idea. Wire the side marker lights between the hot lead on the
parking lamp and the hot lead on the turn signal.

With your lights off, the marker light flashes with the turn signal.

With your lights on, the marker light is on and turns off when the
turn signal turns on.

This works because of the low power of the marker light compared to
the parking and signal lamps and because the cold resistence of the
filaments is so much lower than the hot resistence.

Keith
From: jspinnow@netcom.com (John Stewart Pinnow)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Air Cooled Questions Wanted.
Summary: Questions Wanted Badly
Keywords: Questions,aircooled,vw,stimulation
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:02:27 GMT
Organization: Tmoh Research, Milwaukee, WI



My father Donald Pinnow a person who loves air cooled VW's and has worked 
on them for years. He is looking for some questions to stimulate his mind and
thinking processes. I will type his replys. If the topic is interesting
enough I will also post a summary to rec.autos.vw. He can even possibly put
an Air Cooled FAQ together.

Please send your air cooled VW questions to:
	jspinnow@netcom.com

Thank you,

-- 
Tmoh Research       | Net : jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu| Usmail: Ask
John S. Pinnow      |       jspinnow@netcom.com      | AT&T  : (414) 761-1537
Milwaukee, WI 53221 |        jpinnow@world.std.com   | The opinions I express
                    |       alumn123@whscdp.whs.edu  | are mine........
From: wolfsond@cse.fau.edu (Dan MC^2 Wolfson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Wolfsburg 16V Scirocco?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:32:05 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <9DEC199222415290@elroy.uh.edu> eleeaax@elroy.uh.edu (Maurice Slot) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.184603.21885@u.washington.edu>, calypso@stein.u.washington.edu (Kent Shih) writes...
>>>In article <1992Dec7.194821.15141@u.washington.edu>, calypso@stein.u.washington.edu (Kent Shih) writes...
>>>> 
>>>>     Is there such thing as a Wolfsburg Edition 16V Scirocco?  I know there
>>>>     are Wolfsburb Scirocco's out there, but what about 16V's?
>> 
>>>>leeaax@elroy.uh.edu (Maurice Slot) writes:
>>>> 
>>>Yes. My friend has one. Comes standard w/power stuff (though no sunroof, in 
>>>his case)
>> 
>>     Are they pretty much the same? (Wolfsburg/non Wolfburg 16V Sciroccos)
>>     In terms of speed and performance?
>Exactly  the same in speed and performance. Only difference is the added power
>goodies, and a small round decal on the fender. That's it. The Wolfsburg 
>editions are packaged options, really.


What extra options does it have?  My 87 Scirocco has power windows, power
locks, sun-roof, leather seats, power steering, a/c.  

Are there any more ?


Dan
-- 
Dan Wolfson (wolfsond@cse.fau.edu)

"We'll always be remembered..... We'll always be dismembered."
						--Front 242
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: puddle problems
Date: 15 Dec 1992 16:47:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, drew@tcom.stc.co.uk (Scooby Doo) says:

>In article <1gje94INNfma@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>>someone posted before, and said that you can take your car in, and VW should
>>put their splash guard on for free..they know that all of them should have
>>come with one, i guess.  I dunno if that dude is still reading or not..
>>i seem to have lost his address, but he told me to just call VW and ask
>>for their book, or just go in and tell them to give you the splash guard,
>>cuz urs hasn't one...it's at least worth a try, and will also help to keep
>>you from overtightening your belts to try and stop them from slipping!
>>best of luck!
>>DREW
>
>How far back does this go?
>
>Drew.

as near as i understood,(are you out there, ye who knoweth!??!) they
replaced it on his SO's jetta, even though it was out of warantee..so.
i'm not sure, but i suggest as long as you have a h2ojammer that is running
and hasn't one, it wouldn't hurt to ask.  I believe he said that their
jetta was na 86 or 87..somewhere around there...sorry i haven't had time
to go and do this myself to offer first-hand knowledge, and i know only what
this gent told me..(and then only what i can remember of that!) best of luck!
DREW
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: Alternator Problem
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:03:05 GMT

In article <92350.130913IO00139@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, Erik Sette <IO00139@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
|> Hi!
|> I have an 84 GTi and just recently bought a new alternator for it.
|> I want to know why when I installed it the metal cooling like
|> fan rubs and makes a horrible noise. Is it alright to bend that
|> fan back a little so it doesn't hit to motor. It seems that the alternator
|> is really close to the motor. Is there supposed to be some sort of spacer
|> where the unit fits in. Replies would be greatly appreciated.

Did you replace the original Bosch alternator with a Motorola unit for the
US built Rabbit's.  They are not exactly the same dimensions.  I also believe
they need different pulley spacers.  Anyone else seen this problem?
I have always changed mine to Bosch alternators.  Cann't remember what the
difference was exactly.

Mark
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Stop Leak and Heater Cores
Reply-To: rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:15:46 GMT

I just got my 86 GTI back from the dealer for its heater core
replacement via recall, and it turned out that not only
did I get my heater core replaced, but I am now getting
tons more heat than I did before. Not that the new core
is any more efficient than the old one, but as I found
out today, use of "stop leak" can be fatal to a heater
core as well as other components of the cooling system.

As I posted a long time ago, I was having a problem with
my heater...on days below 30 degrees, at low RPMs the
heat would "cool off". I figured an eventual water
pump replacement was due, but today I found out
the old heater core was partially blocked due to
stop leak stuff.

I put the stuff in a couple of years ago during a 12 hr
rally to cure a small leak. Later I did replace the radiator
as a result of an accident. I guess the stuff eventually
collected in the heater core and stayed there. Moral of
this little tale....AVOID STOP LEAK AT ALL COSTS!!!

And while on the tale of heaters/ventilation etc...
Don't buy those ventilation filters sold by APS! They are
pure CRAP!!!  I put one on for the hell of it, to keep
out some of the dust from rallying. It turns out
they may be good filters, but they are so restrictive
that I was getting very little air thru the system
with the blower fan on 4!!!! Save your money, don't
buy one!


Ric
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (REACH OUT AND GREP SOMEONE)
Subject: 71' beetle questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:09:11 GMT

	I was wondering if there was any difference in size
of front fenders for a  '71 Super Beetle and a regular beetle. I'm
planning on changing fenders, but I don't want to spend my money and
time messing with the wrong sized fender in a junk-yard. Does anyone
know? Thanks in advance.

Garrett