From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo)
Subject: New Part VI, The Casolaro Murder --> The Feds' Theft of Inslaw Software
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:06:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Keywords: CIA = Murder Inc.,  CIA desecrates the People's Constitution


        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
IAN MASTERS:
So let's now go to Michael Riconosciuto in jail in Tacoma, Washington.

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
... and this package worked. OK?  I mean it really and truly worked.
And when I got my first copies of it and ran it up, I was
dumbfounded. I have a statistical exercising package where I can
put computer software and/or hardware, and/or hardware/software
systems through their paces. And I can determine at which point it
will become unreliable from the standpoint of errors or other
failures in the system. I put the PROMIS through certain exercises,
and I was incredibly IMPRESSED.

IAN MASTERS:
So what happened in terms of Dr. Earl Brian and your .....

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Dr. Earl Brian was going to go after information technology and
bio-technology. And here again, you have to realize that we were on the 
threshold of a whole new era with bio-technology and with information 
technology. Earl Brian had some backing, and he was going to buy
out some well placed start-up companies that already had a running
start, and then he was going to pump money and talent and the 
right connections into them, and make them go.

And all of these grandiose plans were going along huckledy-buck
all through 1982. And something went wrong! OK?  The first thing
that went wrong down in the Cabazon was that the deputy tribal 
chairman, Fred Alvarez and a couple of his friends were murdered.
They managed to sidestep that issue, as if it had never happened.
And then my ex-associate, Paul Marosca was found murdered. I was
the one who found him. Nichols and others tried to keep me away 
from our condominium office in San Francisco. It was suspicious
to me. And after almost fourteen days of not seeing Paul --  
and then a day after he missed a critical meeting that there's
no way he would have missed -- that's when I went looking for him.
Nichols tried to get me down to the desert on an emergency basis
to work on some project so that I'd be otherwise occupied. And I
said that I'd be down there as soon as I found out what happened 
to Paul. He was really pushy and really stressed out when he 
came across to me on this.  It made me even more suspicious.
And other people that I talked to tried to dissuade me. It was 
just not normal, the amount of pressure and emphasis they were
putting on this situation.  I knew in my gut there was 
something wrong. 

Paul was dead!  He'd been slowly strangled to death.

IAN MASTERS:
But why?  Why are they killing people who are working for them?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Well let me explain.  Alvarez was present at all the meetings,
and he was gung-ho behind Nichols (Dr. John P. Nichols), and 
everything that was going on there. OK?  We were all red-blooded
Americans, and we believed in the things that were going on!
The way things were shaping up with the Reagan Election Committee
and the things that were being orchestrated made us all concerned.
And Alvarez wrote a detailed letter to Ronald Reagan expressing 
his concern. All the details of the October Surprise hostage issue
were outlined in that letter. I mean, IN SPECIFICS. 

IAN MASTERS:
How did he have this information?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
Well, Senator Abourezk was the tribal advisor. We had connections
in Saudi Arabia, and we had connections in Iran. And we were
using those connections to try to get through to the religious
regime to put pressure on the group that had the hostages --
to get them released. We were trying to resolve that question. 
You've got to understand that Bill Casey was the outside corporate
counsel for Wackenhut at that time.

IAN MASTERS:
And Wackenhut was in a joint venture with the Cabazon Indians.

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
That's correct. And William Casey was their [Wackenhut's] outside 
counsel. Now, Stansfield Turner, the Carter C.I.A. Director, was 
ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF WACKENHUT!  Do you know that Frank 
Carlucci [former Secretary of Defense] is on the board of directors 
of Wackenhut?  Shall I keep going?  You know, their favorite song
at board meetings, after the "Star Spangled Banner", is "Hail, Hail,
The Gang's All Here".

IAN MASTERS:
But tell me how this led up to Ronald Reagan. What was the date
of this letter saying .....

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
I can't remember exactly. I'd have to go back to my notes and
stuff. But we've got copies of it and we've got copies of Ronald
Reagan's response.   Have you seen any of this?

IAN MASTERS:
No. Of course not.

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
OK. It's been spread out to reporters. And I will get a hold of ...

IAN MASTERS:
I'd like to get hold of it. But tell me now: what specifics do
you have on how this October Surprise thing was orchestrated?

MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
OK. But let me finish. I'm building up to a point here. It's quite
complicated and I'm just about there. Robert Chasen, who is the
group Vice President of Wackenhut, has an interesting history.
Robert Chasen was Vice President of International Telephone and
Telegraph. You know -- ITT.  During the Allende situation in Chile,
he was the C.I.A. station boss as well as Vice President of ITT
for Chilean operations. And his deputy station boss was Dino Pianzio. 
And John Philip Nichols was working under Dino John Pianzio at 
that time. Chasen goes from ITT to Wackenhut.  During the Carter
Administration, Robert E. Chasen is Commissioner of U.S. Customs
for the entire Carter Administration. As Commissioner of Customs,
he has some interesting projects directly out of his office. One
of them was Fat Albert, the drug interdiction surveillance balloons.
Are you familiar with that technology?

IAN MASTERS:
Yes.
                      (to be continued)
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       This is one of countless stories unveiling the deeply corrupted    
       and subverted state of our theoretically democratic Government.
       This story makes disgustingly obvious the fact that patriotism
       is not the waving of flags, the tying of yellow ribbons and the 
       supporting of the Government, just because it happens to be ours.
       You don't support cancer just because you happen to have it.
       Patriotism is telling the truth to the people of our country
       in order that they may unite to conquer the anti-democratic
       cancer that is gradually destroying ours and our children's
       freedom. So please post the installments of this ongoing series
       to other bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places,
       both on and off campus.  That would be a truly patriotic deed.

       John DiNardo