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From: au342@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Rolfes)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Ohio Lighting Laws
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:38:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.003828.6622
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


The Ohio Revised Code section 4513.17 clearly defines the usage
of flashing lights on motor vehicles in the state.

Red and/or White  --To be used on Life Squads, Voluner Vehicles, and 
                    County-owned Civil Defense vehicles.

Blue and/or White  --To be used by police officers or those employed by a 
Blue/Red Combination  a municipality to enforce traffic laws.

All of the above are authorized to use sirens on their vehicles when responding
to an emergency.  In order to legal go through a traffic control device,
a siren of at least 55 watts must be sounding and the driver may then 
proceed using reasonable care.

Amber -- To be used for funeral processions, snow plows, highway maintenance
vehicles, or any vehicle which is attempting to warn vehicles of an impending
hazard. (That last clause allows REACT teams to use amber lights in the state
of Ohio.)

Green -- Has not been defined in the Ohio Revised Code.


Any vehicle when encountered by a flashing red, white, or blue light is 
required to yield to that vehicle even if no siren is sounding.
Penalty $45 ticket and 2 points.

Any vehicle that displays a light for which they are not authorized to have 
may be ticketed for a violation resulting in $45 fine --if blue also for 
possibly  --impersonating a police officer.


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In Harrison, OH / West Harrison, Indiana --one side of the street is OH and the
other IN.  Indiana requires its volunteers to use blue lights if a firefighter
and green if EMS personnel. --  The city of Harrison allows those who live in
OH and respond to a FD in Indiana to use blue/green lights, though it is
illegal by the Ohio Revised Code.


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Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 21:34:33 -0400 
From: Scott Cheng-Hsien Chiang <sc4e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: EMS / FIRE

This is only a test.  I have a funny feeling that I lost the contact
with the net.

               /   /     Scott C. Chiang
              /   /      sc4e+@andrew.cmu.edu
             /   /
            /   /        NY AEMT, PA EMT-Mast, AHA Instructor
    \   \  /   /         Jamaica Estates Volunteer Ambulance Corp.
     \   \/   /          New York City Emergency Medical Service -- 94 Henry
      \  /\  /           Carnegie Mellon University Emergency Medical Service
       \/  \/            "I save lives, what do you do?"

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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:30:22 -0400
From:         KEN <KAK6279@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      VCR's

        If you can't catch Code three on saturdays...
                That's why god invented VCR's...for people who go out on
                        saturdays.


Just my .002 cents and my overly long and soon to be shortened .sig file which
everybody seems to think are the greatest thing since ALS!

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        "Time is an invaluable commodity, which I am unwilling to waste,
          but I sell it to RIT for $4.51 an hour!" (Damn college jobs!)

                E632...E638.  "No fire too big, no rescue too small."
      "But it seems that all we've been getting is Haz-Mats and automatics!"
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From:         Firemen -- Dressed for Sucess!!! <MICHAEL@UNTVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fire Officer Ranks

PS -- Denton is the same without Batt chiefs and higher, no 2nd drivers and no
lt's.  Driver --> captain

















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From: ussmith@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: New TV Show: Code 3
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:33:52 -0600
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Organization: Memphis State University

This is my first post to this group, and forgive me if this has
already been discussed...

A new show called ( I think ) Code 3 premieres this Saturday night
on Fox. It will be on immediately after COPS and is supposedly very
similar to COPS, except it follows paramedic units.

Anyone have more information on this new show??

Rick Smith
Memphis State University

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From:         FIREMARSHALL LEN <LXS7507@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Re: New TV Show: Code 3

        All I know is that my Saturday nights are planned fromm now on !!!

                        8:00 - 9:00                Cops
                        9:00 - 9:30 (or 10:00 ?)   Code 3
                       10:00 - 10:30               On Scene



        NOT TOO BAD!!

                                                ---Len


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From: jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung)
Subject: Re:      Re: LIGHTS
Reply-To: jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 21:32:20 GMT

In article <01GILP6315TC8Y51VP@ITHACA.BITNET>,         GU091MAH@ITHACA.BITNET writes:
|> No ambulance and/or fire engine, according to the NJ law, is allowed to break
|> any laws, they must stop at red lights and are supposed to stay the speed
|> limit.  Now we all know that this doesn't happen, and it shouldn't.  After
|> stopping at a red light, if safe, I'll proceed through the intersection
|> and if necessary I'll exceed the speed limit as well.  No police officer
|> will give anyone a problem about that.  But, there is no where in the law 
|> that says emergency vehicles are allowed to do this.

The assumption in NJ seems to be that the cops won't bother the other 
emergency services if they are reasonable.  Of course, if you run a 
light in your POV or an ambulance, it'll cost your ass if you cause an
accident by doing so.

Much of the use of the blue light, IMHO, is to clear traffic ahead, not
necessarily in an intersection.  It's the Sunday driver with his left turn
signal on driving 35 in a 50 that makes people complain.  But then again,
he's had the turn signal on for 6 months, so a siren would never help.
-- 
Eric C. Jung 			Bellcore
(908) 699-4684			6 Corporate Place PYA-1D-142
jung@base.bellcore.com		Piscataway, NJ  08854
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:49:15 EST
From:         MCLAUG57@SNYNEWVM.BITNET

subject: re- tire fire investigation.

      Sounds like a striking of white lightning.  Our dept has had some of it
 in a lumberyard area about 1/4 mile from our outer house.  First car and tract
or rig fires, a large pallot fire, then office bld's with people living in the
 apartment rooms.  Then the one of 2 main shop buildings with heavy involvment.
  Supposedly the owner was selling the land for condo development in the near
future.  Perhaps just a coincidence.

                                                         Sean
                                                Currently at s.u.n.y.
                                                 New Paltz
From: aa667@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Griffith)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: PASS Alarms
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:05:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.140520.7032
Reply-To: aa667@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Griffith)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, STUECRWN@EKU.BITNET (Firefighting... It's It and That's That) says:

>I was wondering if anyone knows what OSHA and NFPA say about every firefighter
>having a PASS device. Some people say only the Air-Pack team going in the
>building should have them, some say everyone should have them. I can't find
>what OSHA and NFPA have to say about it. Also does anyone know of any
>inexpensive LIFEGUARD PASS alarms for sale?

I am not sure what OSHA or the NFPA says, but I will research it tomorrow
when I am on duty.  I do know that all of our air packs have the PASS device
attached to them.  The Chief has in the budget for this year to issue each
and every member of the department their own device.  He wouldn't do this 
without some agency recommending it.  I will check it out and post it on
Wednesday from work.

John Griffith, Fire fighter/Paramedic
-- 
"I will be watching over you, I am gonna help you see it through.  I will
 protect you in the night, I am smiling next to you.  In Silent Lucidity.
                                                        -Queensryche
John Griffith aa667 (Fire fighter/Paramedic)
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:11:20 PDT
From:         Steve Buck <sbuck@EDDIE.EE.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New TV Show: Code 3
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              "ussmith%MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU@VM.MARIST.EDU" at Apr 9, 92 12:33 pm

> Anyone have more information on this new show??

It's by the producers of COPS from what I hear.  It's about time
they make a comparable show.  William Shatner just doesn't appeal
to me.  There is a show called Emergeny Response that is live
footage, but it isn't nearly as good as COPS...can't wait till
it comes on. l8r.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:07:29 EDT
From:         PJ Geraghty <JX655C@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: EMS / FIRE

On Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:00:30 GMT Christopher Aaron Franz said:
>an accident.  Why is everyone so close minded to learning first aid?  I
>think its important for everyone.

Well, thankfully, not everyone is close-minded about learning first aid.  In
many areas, however, people quit volunteering when they found out (mostly in
the early 1970's) that they would have to take an EMT course.  Many new
firefighters today where I volunteer take EMT ebcause they have to and refuse
(whenever possible) to ride the ambulance or medic unit.  The DC fire dept.
is notorious for refusing to assist with patient care, even to the point of
refusing to initiate CPR.

Obviously, I have a different opinion.  I like EMS, and find it to be a lot
more rewarding than firefighting (especially since we RARELY have "real" fires
out here).  While people are entitled to prefer firefighting, they should not
do so at the expense of their EMS skills.  EMS calls account for the majority
of calls in combined fire/rescue systems, so saying that a firefighter
shouldn't have to be an EMT is saying that he/she shouldn't be trained for what
accounts for more than 50% of his/her job description (obviously, this only
applies to combination systems).

The bottom line, I think, is that if you don't like what the job entails, then
you shouldn't be doing it, even if you like the other parts.  I hate getting up
in the middle of the night for a s*** call, but I do it because it's part of
deal.  In return, I get to run multiple-system traumas, working codes and other
"good" calls.  That's the deal I made when I joined.

>Worcester Polytechnic I.   "Hey, how about those Mets."
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From: howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org (Howard Leadmon - WB3FFV)
Subject: Re:      EMSREVU
Organization: Advanced Business Solutions, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:03:44 GMT

        Dylan Kaufman <morgan@CHAOS.CS.BRANDEIS.EDU> writes:
> KEN writes:
> ->   I know that this is old news, but the emsrevu prog. has been inserted into
> ->dartvax.dartmouth.edu again in the /pub/dropoff dir as emsrevu2.zip.  Tell me
> ->if it works!
> ->
> Has anyone managed to get it to work?


  I sure haven't been able to retreive a working copy.  If anybody get's a 
working copy of this review program I would be most interested, as I would
very much like a copy myself...

MD EMT-A/EOA/FF-1 

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From: fsdjt2@acad3.alaska.edu (Wonko the Sane)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: shorthand query
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:56:06 GMT
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In article <EMERG-L%92040612415075@VM.MARIST.EDU>, GRJS@VM.MARIST.EDU (Joey J. Stanford, Graphics Research Group) writes...
>Query:
> 
>  C overbar=with
>  S overbar=with out
> 
>  in EMT shorthand (on PCR's)...


They are just there for making things "easier" in writing your reports.  Common
useage includes:

	"EKG showed sinus rhythm (SR) [S overbar] ectopy"
    or  "Patient stood [S overbar] assistance"

	"Lung sounds equal [C overbar] rales in lower lobes"
    or  "Pt took 30 Valium [C overbar] a 6 pack of beer"
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:22:00 EDT
From:         "Virgil W. Smaltz" <DAC013@MARSHALL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NARCAN

>An anesthesiologist that I spoke with says this is all wrong.  He sited
>a few tests that have been done regarding Narcan in non narcacized patients.

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Kirk,

  I'm afraid that the real reason that the anesthesiologist said to keep quiet
about the NARCAN is that he didn't want you to find out he was full of it.
There have been no studies as he described (MEDLINE search verifies).  The
endorphins (endogenous opiates) he is talking about are blocked by NARCAN
theoretically, but to say you would feel your hair growing, etc. is crap!

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From: rheck@uh.msc.edu (Randy Heckelsberg)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: trapped resp. arrest
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:59:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: uc.1992Apr6.205914.15018
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In article <01GIF34GLN4W000CI7@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>, MICHAEL@UNTVAX.BITNET writes:
|> >        You are short handed at the scene of the 3 car MVA.  There is a cardiac
|> 
|> Immediately call for help... 2 more MICU's and rescue response plus one engine
|> extra... (extra hands plus coverage in case of fuel).
|> 
|> >arrest pt. a sever femer fracture on  a 7 year old girl sever walking wounded
|> >and a trouble breathing w/ chest pains.  It is you and a first aider on scene.
|> 
|> 
|> >As  I see it the most critical patient is the girl loosing massive amounts of
|> >blood and that is who would receive treatment (by the first-aider if possible)
|> 
|> Agreed.
|> 
|> >and I would devote my attentions to the cardiac arrest.
|> 
|> Sorry -- here i diverge from you.  I would treat the trapped respiratory arrest
|> as long as a pulse was present when starting (otherwise, they're a signal 27),
|> because the cardiac arrest is deader than the one with a heartbeat.  Rescue or
|> no, I am assured that life was present when i started and therefore a higher
|> trauma level.  Possibly the first-aider could do cpr on the arresst victim
|> after stablizing the femur fracture, but that could take a while...
|> 
|> 

I most definitely agree with Michael.  Cardiac arrest patients seldom resucitate
even under the best conditions (unless witnessed by medics with paddles and drugs
in hand).  Trauma arrest patients vitrually never resucitate even under ideal
conditions.  Cardiac arrest quickly follows respiratory arrest if not treated
aggressively.  I have bagged trapped victims for as long as 20 minutes with
eventual full recovery.  I know of incidents where trapped victims were bagged
for as long as an hour.  How to deal with the "trouble breathing with chest
pain" is hard to say without knowing more, e.g. is it an elderly person, pale 
and diaphoretic, a hyperventilation syndrom, smoke inhalation, etc.?

I do agree that the fractured femur should get high priority and that a first-
aider should be able to deal with it until help arrives.

A good scenario, quite possible.

-- 
Randy Heckelsberg                                    | phone: (708) 961-7688
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Oswego, IL               	      |  insurmountable opportunities" -Pogo
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From: au342@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Rolfes)
Subject: Re: LIGHTS
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:14:44 GMT


> Here, the minimum required by
> law is a red light visible 360 degrees and a bell/whistle/sire
> for 500 feet.  I run with much more than the minimum.  More th
> our fire apparatus ;-). 

What type of lightbar do you use?  I personally like the Streethawk bar,
or the Code4 XL.

Michael P. Rolfes  OVR Unit #43, usr2879a@tso.uc.edu
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From: garlick@cats.ucsc.edu (Tim Garlick)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Code III
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:25:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


sigh, i was severely disappointed.  they could easily lose
all the narration, all the melodrama, all the sap.  i thought
rescue 911 had the corner on that market.  hrmmm, maybe turning
off the volume would work...  the footage was generally 
excellent.  it was just buck rogers who annoyed me to the point
of nearly giving up on the show.  did anyone else notice that
all his scenes were standing in front of engines from the 
beverly hills fire dept?

i would much prefer a COPS-style show- let the medics and 
firefighters explain what they want to about the call.  don't
have any narration at all.  i'm planning on writing a letter
to fox with my suggestions.  i hope the show can be saved.

-- 

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UCSC CATS		Bitnet:   garlick@cats.bitnet
PP-SEL, Calif EMT-1(a), KD6GLX
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From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: NFPA Quiz Answers
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:22:05 GMT

In article <95.29EC3315@stjhmc.fidonet.org>, Glen.Strecker@f2.n390.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Strecker) writes:
> 9. = B. 
>     False. Smoke probably will not awaken you and may very likely  
> put you into a deeper sleep.

How true! We had a 'fire' last year that is a classic for this.

Woman fell asleep with some mince on gas stove in a cast iron pot. Neibours
called brigade when the saw the smoke. 2 in in SCBA, located 'fire' and turned
off stove. ** THEY KEPT GOING THROUGH HOUSE **, woman found UC on bedroom floor,
bailed out with her trrough window. Pt resused and removed to hospital.
damage to house... NIL
Damage to pot...   needed washing

Total loss: $2 worth of mince and (almost) one life. Doesn't need much to kill.

~Paul

PS If there is much interest in this case, we have quite a bit of press ect.
One bystander was so shocked at our not beeing equipped with Oxy-vivas, that
he pulled out his cheque book and wrote out a cheque for $2.5K on the spot!
From: Tom.Leber@p1.f922.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Leber)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: E-One
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:16:49 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/922.1 - StarLine, Elkins Park PA

Could someone who knows the 'whole story' post a summary of the facts 
regarding
structural problems encountered with E-One apparatus? There have been more 
than
a few messages posted here on the subject, and I'm sure many of us missed a
few of them.

My company has a late model E-One non-walkthrough rescue truck with a pump,
and we'd like to know what to be aware of and look out for so what can catch
any possible problems early.

Thanks...
 

 

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