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From: tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones)
Newsgroups: dc.general,va.general,dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: ALERT! Anti-gun meeting in NoVA
Date: 14 Dec 1992 08:01:20 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
Keywords: knothead

In article <1992Dec9.014838.8623@panix.com> justice@panix.com
(Michael Justice) writes:

>D.C. has some
>of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.  Do *you* think they've
>worked?  
>
>			-- Michael.

Here's *that* old line of reasoning again, muddying cause and effect.

Corollary:
L.A. has some of the strictest pollution control laws in the nation.
Do *you* think they've worked?  It's the most polluted city in the country!

*Of course* LA is better off because of their pollution controls; it would
be like Mexico City if the laws weren't there.

Maybe gun laws reduce crime, maybe they don't.  But don't use these old
fallacious arguments, please?

-tom jones
From: electro@access.digex.com (Gary Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Temp position - hardware installation
Date: 18 Dec 1992 03:36:20 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: dc
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

A friend of mine who runs his own computer business is looking for
someone, preferably a college student to do some part-time hardware
installations in the Silver Spring area for about a month.

The company is Clarity Sources, Inc.  Their number is (301) 497-4139 or
(410) 880-4910.  Ask for Mike Sapp.



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     ELECTRO   | Gary J. Ehrlich           | "Real filkers don't document;
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   E           | electro@access.digex.com  |  should be hard to scan" 
  ELECTRO      | G. EHRLICH on GEnie       |
From: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Dog sitting services?
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:05:46 GMT
Organization: Lab for Hydrospheric Processes


I need a dog sitting service.  Kind of a bonded, come by and walk it kind of thing.
Does anyone know of such a service? How much would it cost?

Thanks,
 Brian
From: RJB@jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu (Rodney Baker)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Computer Programs for Lawers
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:44:11 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

Hello,

I am looking for a last minute x-mas gift for my wife who is in her
1st year of law school.  Does anyone know of a store where I might
find some software for our 386 MS-DOS machine that could help her
throughout her school career?

I live in between Baltimore and Washington D.C. (Glen Burnie if that
means anything :-)  If you can actually recomend a software package,
I'd be doubly appreciative!!!

My e-mail address is rjb@jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu.

Thanks in advance to anyone and everyone who responds to this last
minute plea for help!!!


- Rodney Baker
  The Johns Hopkins University
  E-mail: rjb@jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu
From: mitch@clsi.COM (Mitchell N. Perilstein)
Subject: Re: Good Auto Body Shop?
Organization: CAD Language Systems, Inc.
Distribution: dc
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:18:52

I had a good door job done by Airpark Autobody on Snouffer School Road
in Gaithersburg.  You cannot tell it had been worked on.  Recommended to
me by my State Farm adjuster.

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 Mitchell N. Perilstein   CAD Language Systems, Inc.   410-992-5700 x225 
 Member, League for Programming Freedom.  Mail lpf@uunet.uu.net for info.
From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: ALERT! Anti-gun meeting in NoVA
Date: 13 Dec 92 05:40:24 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.

In article <WARSAW.92Dec12171740@anthem.nlm.nih.gov> warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
>
>    FRANK> I personally feel that licenses for either motor vehicles
>    FRANK> or firearms is a constitutional violation, but no one pays
>    FRANK> attention to the constitution anymore, anyway.
>
>How is motor vehicle use/ownership a constitutionally protected right
>that is being violated by licensing?  Just curious...


The ninth and tenth amendments were supposed to deal with things like
this.  The intent was to strictly limit the federal government to a
few specific and strictly defined powers, and the fourteenth was
supposed to place the same limits on the state governments.

Too bad that a large number of law-writing types can't read and
comprehend simple english.

Frank Ney N4ZHG EMT-A  LPVa NRA ILA GOA CCRTKBA "M-O-U-S-E"
Commandant and Acting President, Northern Virginia Free Militia
Send e-mail for an application and more information
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From: cs106406@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs106406)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Best banks in DC?
Summary: need recommendations for good checking accounts
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:38:57 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus

I'm looking for info on checking accounts in DC for a friend 
who just moved here -- anyone know which banks have the best 
services and lowest fees?

Some considerations:  	doesn't write many checks
			uses ATM all the time -- fee for using
				ATM at another bank would be
				a big minus
			won't be keeping a minimum balance
			has been known to (accidentally) bounce
				a check, so exorbitant fees for
				returned checks would not be 
				good
			travels a lot, so exorbitant checks for
				using ATMs elsewhere would be
				a minus
			telephone account info (esp. 24 hours)
				would be a big plus

Please respond by e-mail to me and I will pass the info along.
Thanks!

Miriam
cs106406@umbc8.umbc.edu
From: purtilo@cs.umd.edu (Jim Purtilo)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: violence control idea that makes sense
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:06:00 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


Peter Olson sez:
#  
#  I have a suggestion for limiting the importation of guns into DC.
#  Increase the number of BATF enforcement officers and empower them to
#  trace back to and arrest citizens of other states who illegally sell
#  guns to DC residents (who are not allowed to buy them in DC).  My
#  understanding is that private citizens may not sell guns across state
#  lines and that you must be a resident of the "state" in which you buy
#  a gun.  Fine.  If a VA citizen sells a gun to a DC resident and that
#  gun is used in a murder, charge the original VA purchaser as an
#  accessory before the fact.  The VA citizen has the Right to Keep and
#  Bear Arms, but not the right to sell them [across state lines].

For reference, BATF officers *are* empowered to arrest straw purchasers.
A refreshing idea, that ... using the laws already on the books!

#  The guiding principle here is that every right is accompanied by a
#  responsibility.  In this case, the right to keep and bear arms is
#  complemented by the responsibility to safeguard those arms and keep
#  them from the hands of lawbreakers.  

I concur.  That's also another refreshing idea ... balancing in the
hands of the PEOPLE both their rights (to keep and bear arms) and the 
expectation that they take responsibility for their own actions in how
they exercise those rights.   In contrast to denying honest citizens
their rights in an attempt to curtail the actions of those criminals who
society chooses not to hold accountable directly.
From: guthrie@cam.nist.gov (Will_Guthrie_x2854)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Wanted - Used Concept II rowing machine
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:14:44 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology, Gaithersburg, MD

Hi,

I would like to buy a used Concept II rowing machine.  If
anyone has one that they would like to sell, please email 
me.

Thanks,
Will Guthrie
From: willmann@seismo.CSS.GOV (Raymond Willemann)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Dog sitting services?
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:54:31 GMT
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA


In article <1992Dec15.180546.21837@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
 schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber) writes:
|> 
|> I need a dog sitting service.  Kind of a bonded, come by and walk it kind
|> of thing.  Does anyone know of such a service? How much would it cost?
|> 

I've been pleased with "Pet Nanny" in Lanham, MD.  They spend 30 minutes
with my dog during each visit, including a walk and feeding.  They visit
once, twice, or three times per day, for $12, $22, or ??$ per day.  This
is less expensive than the other services I found in the yellow pages.

I called the insurance and bonding phone numbers that they gave me the
first time I used them and the people who answered sounded like insurance
agents.  They're phone number is 301 731-0011.

	Ray
Newsgroups: dc.general,misc.wanted
From: payter@umbc4.umbc.edu (The Flying Dutchman)
Subject: Internal Hard Drive for a DecStation 2100.
Organization: <Insert Commercial Here>
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:51:32 GMT

    Need (an) internal hard drive(s) for a DecStation 2100 to solidify a really
good deal I'd get on the machine.  All it has to do is work; any software on it
will be subsequently erased.  Muchas thanks.

    Later,

    Payter.

;-)
-- 
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5454 Harper's Farm Rd #C4  o * n  Live every day as if it were your last...
Columbia, MD 21044         S * t  One day, you're sure to be right.
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From: lgollub@snoopy.umd.edu (Lewis R. Gollub)
Newsgroups: dc.general,misc.wanted
Subject: Want to buy 80486
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:18:08 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

I want to buy a 80486DX computer, 110-200 MB.

I would appreciate any comments on the following possible
sources in the Wash., DC area--
	ACCEL
	ICS
	Packard-Bell
	IBM (Value Point)

I have a limited budget, but would spend $$$ for keeping
the machine running rather than in the repair shop.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: gjones@harbor.mitre.org (Gordon Jones)
Subject: SKI BLOWOUT AT BLUE KNOB -- Jan 8-10
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:00:00 GMT





             S K I  B L O W O U T  A T  B L U E  K N O B  !


Get ready for an outrageous skiing adventure at Blue Knob, January 8-10 !
For as little as $155.00 per person you can ski the highest vertical drop in
Pennsylvania (1052').  The trip includes:

   two nights lodging at RAMADA w/ tropical indoor courtyard
   parties each day (plus refreshments on the bus)
   FREE equipment rentals
   jacuzzi and pool
   round trip transportation
   free meals
   roller skating
   horseback riding

Two of the ski trails are "double diamond" trails for experts, and there are
several long, level slopes ideal for beginning skiiers.

Blue Knob is only 2 hours 45 min from D.C., so an early return home on Sunday
is possible.  For further details, contact Gordon at (703) 204-0768 or
leave message or respond to gjones@gateway.mitre.org
From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Best banks in DC?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 07:39:58 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

crh@wam.umd.edu (Craig Hinners) writes:

> Congress/House Bank!!!

ROTFL!!!

     Michael Pearl      |       Professional Exchange Services
     mpearl@pes.com     |       Bethesda, MD
                        |       (301) 907-0349
From: waksman@.umd.edu (Adlai Waksman)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: EveCon 10: Jan.1,2,3 '93 (was Re: Needed - Ideas for New Year's Eve)
Summary: The best way for SF/fantasy lovers to spend New Year's Weekend!
Keywords: EveCon, FanTek, SF, fantasy, gaming, art, science, computers, fun!
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:53:56 GMT
Organization?: FanTek, Fort Washington, MD, (301) 292-5231
FanTek-BBS-Number: (301) 203-9582
No-Matter-Where-You-Go: There You Are

>>>I am in search of new and exciting ideas to spend New Year's Eve ....
>>
>>And if that doesn't boggle your mind enough, hit EveCon, the best DC science-
>>fiction/fantasy convention in Crystal City that weekend.
>
>If it's sponsored by Creation Cons, better bring tons of cash...

EveCon has no relation to Creation Cons.  It's sponsored by FanTek, a
non-commercial SF/fantasy/gaming/etc. club in Fort Washington, Maryland.
(FanTek also hosts CastleCons in the summer.)

There will be a dealers' room, of course, but the con itself offers
many things to do!  From the flyer: "...there will be performances by
comedy troupes.  Learn to make Costumes.  Then enter the MASQUERADE
EXHIBITION Saturday night.  Or learn How to Belly Dance....

"SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY programs ranging from Current Space Topics to
Local Reforestation....  Talks on Modern and Ancient warfare, FUTURE
WEAPONS .... A New TECH track of programs, featuring the latest in
ELECTRONIC TOYS.  But that's not all!  .... Our ART SHOW is run by and
for the attending artists....

"And don't forget to attend the DANCE on Saturday night, not to mention
the ten billion other events going on.  No, sorry, no ginsu knives in this
offer, but hey, we do have some very nice chocolate in the Con Suite...."

							Need I say more?

								  YES! --

	Memberships for EveCon 10 will be $25 at the door.

EveCon 10 will be held at The Doubletree Inn (formerly the Holiday Inn
Crowne Plaza), 300 Army/Navy Drive, Arlington, VA,  (703) 892-4100.

For more information, write or call:
- FANTEK, 1607 Thomas Rd., Fort Washington, MD  20744
- (301) 292-5231
Or dial into...
- The FanTek BBS: (301) 203-9582 -- great discussions, bad puns, 8-line chat,
  and more!  ('Fancy' modem users: turn off MNP/v.42(bis) &c., e.g. "AT&Q6".)
-- 
___________________________________________________Adlai Waksman(@cfar.umd.edu)
     ...The Universe is thronged with fire and light,		 (301) 474-0523
 And we but smaller suns, which, skinned, trapped and kept	     w:405-1745
Enshrined in blood and precious bones, hold back the night.  (Ray Bradbury)
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: xjiang@wam.umd.edu (Xun Jiang)
Subject: room for rent, do not reply to this account
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:02:25 GMT

Master bedroom for rent
Bowie area, nice and clean environment
$300+1/4 utilities
call 301-552-3849(h)
Mr. Liu 301-345-3996(o)
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: olds@helix.nih.gov (James Olds)
Subject: B&B suggestions Bethesda area
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:38:57 GMT

Hi, I have some guests comming in for the Holidays who are allergic
to my cats. I'm looking for suggestions for a nice (reasonably priced)
Bed and Breakfast in the Bethesda area. As far as Friendship Heights
or Chevy Chase would be fine.
Thanks in advance to any who e-mail me.

--
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* James L. Olds Ph.D.                 Neural Systems Section               *
* domain: olds@helix.nih.gov           NINDS, NIH, Bethesda, MD. 20892 USA *
****************************************************************************
From: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Good Auto Body Shop?
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:01:01 GMT
Reply-To: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.general, larry@cs.umd.edu (Larry Herman) writes:
xHi,
x
x  I'm looking for a recommendation for an auto body shop for a friend.
xSomeone hit her car while it was parked; since the accident is not her
xfault and the driver of the other vehicle is responsible for the
xdamage, my friend is primarily interested in getting repairs of high
xquality, rather than at low cost.
x
x  Shops in Northwest D.C. or Montgomery County would be most
xconvenient for her.
x
x  So if you know of a good shop that would like some extra business,
xplease let me know their name!
x
x  Thanks very much,
x
x  Larry Herman
x--

Peck Auto Body, 105 North Stonestreet Avenue, Rockville Md. 20850
About a block from Rockville Metro stop (Red Line). phone (301)
340-1000. Manager is Jerry Conklin. Small shop but owner James
Peck stands behind his work. I had a problem with a clear coat
chipping a year later and they fixed it no charge. Their motto is
"satisfaction sells service". They've been there since about 1971.
My insurance adjuster (GEICO) also said they were good.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mack Costello <mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Code 1720.1       ?
David Taylor Model Basin, Carderock Division Hq. NSWC    ___/-\____
Bethesda, MD 20084-5000   Phone (301) 227-2431          (__________>|

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Bad hard drive
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:49:50 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

Does anyone in this area know where I can have a SCSI hard drive rebuilt? 


     Michael Pearl      |       Professional Exchange Services
     mpearl@pes.com     |       Bethesda, MD
                        |       (301) 907-0349
From: loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup)
Newsgroups: dc.redskins
Subject: Playoff Picture?
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:21:11 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

So what's the playoff picture look like for the Skins now?  I thought all
they had to do was win 2 of their last 3, which means they have to beat
the Raiders next week.  But somehow I think Minnesota has to beat Green Bay
next week also.  Do we win all tie breakers with Green Bay or not?  Like
if they both lose or they both win next week, what happens?  Thanks all.
I know I could wait for the Tuesday USA Today to find out, but I'm hoping
some kind soul out there already knows.  Thanks again.
Newsgroups: dc.redskins
From: s5udjb@fnma.COM (David Boals)
Subject: Re: Well, there you have it
Reply-To: s5udjb@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:15:12 GMT

In article 92Dec14014619@terrorism.berkeley.edu, elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller) writes:

>Does it matter whether or not it was an attempted forward pass?  The ball
>was knocked out of Aikman's hand before he released it.  That's different
>from having the ball come out because his arm is hit.  It's not a pass
>until it leaves his hand.  If it's forced out directly by a defender (or,
>I suspect, offensive player), it's a fumble.

WRONG!!

Of course it matters!!!!  Whether or not the ball had left his hand or not is
IRRELEVANT!!!  If a quarterback's arm is going FORWARD and he is hit, the ball
is considered a PASS.  Once the ball struck the ground, incomplete pass.  The
only question I see here is if Aikman had the ball in his hand the whole time,
meaning in the motion of throwing and coming back (pump fake).  In that case.
it's a fumble, if it was knocked out in the forward motion only, incomplete.

From the replay, it was difficult to tell.  We needed a reverse angle on that
play.  I think the real bonehead move was on the part of Emmit Smith.  It looked
like he wanted to avoid the safety by fumbling the ball out of the endzone to his
own player.  DUMB!

Skins got lucky...

Byner for Q.B.!!!!  Dump that worthless $3 million dollar idiot.

-Dave


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|	 David J. Boals          | 
|	   Fannie Mae            |
|	Programmer/Analyst       |
|	 s5udjb@fnma.com         |
|________________________________|

From: Jim.Conrad@p890.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Conrad)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.redskins
Subject: How did they do it?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:01:36 -0500

How did they do it? The only way possible--Gibbs had them go on 4th down with a
pass he knew wouldn't be caught (by either team), and then Dallas would have the
ball and the Redskins defense could do their thing. Another masterfull plan by
Joe Gibbs. I heard that next week he plans to throw hail Mary's on every down.
Either they get a touchdown or The Eagles get the ball on the 5 yard line and
the defense can score the points. They won't know what hit em and the hogs can
rest for a week.
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: dc.redskins
Subject: Re: Well, there you have it
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:46:19
Organization: Berkeley--Shaken, not Stirred
Distribution: dc
Reply-To: elm@cs.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: terrorism.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: rich@grebyn.com's message of Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:33:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.053314.4823@grebyn.com> rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
=>I'm sure lots of Dallas fans will be screaming bloody murder about
=>the "fumble/forward pass" issue. Looked like a pump fake to me.
=>Doesn't matter, you're supposed to be winning by enough that a
=>single play like that doesn't kill you.

Does it matter whether or not it was an attempted forward pass?  The ball
was knocked out of Aikman's hand before he released it.  That's different
from having the ball come out because his arm is hit.  It's not a pass
until it leaves his hand.  If it's forced out directly by a defender (or,
I suspect, offensive player), it's a fumble.

Besides, it looked like Aikman wanted to bring it down.  It would have
been batted for sure (in fact, it *was* batted before it left his
hand).  I don't think Aikman wanted a batted ball in the air in the
end zone.

ethan
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Newsgroups: dc.redskins
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: How did they do it?
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:02:28 GMT

In article <724395670.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP> Jim.Conrad@p890.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Conrad) writes:
>How did they do it? The only way possible--Gibbs had them go on 4th down with a
>pass he knew wouldn't be caught (by either team), and then Dallas would have the

I side with Gibbs on this call. First, if you can't make it on your
fourth try, then what the hell are you thinking you're good for anyway.
Second, if you kick the field goal, it's 17-16, and the Cowboys get to
kick...meaning you have to let your "offense" on the field. Then again,
maybe we could have but Byner in at quarterback and have Brad Edwards
and Wilbur Marshall as receivers. *They* might catch something.

I was surprised Madden said he would kick, the way the Redskins offense
had been playing. 


-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   216 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
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