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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Update (with a Jake update)
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>>A side note: Mean Gene mentioned Pepper Gomez twice on the Event Center from
>>Oakland Channel 2 during consecutive week's Superstars!  I used to watch him
>>programmed against Ray Stevens during the early sixties.  Anyone know what ol'
>>PepperBelly is up to?

    Speaking of Ray Stevens, did anyone notice that during the Flair/Perfect/
Ramon jumping of Warrior and Savage on Saturday Night's Main Event, one of the
officials who ran from the dressing room to break it up was Ray Stevens, if
I am not mistaken?  At least it sure looked like him. I guess that would
confirm that he now works for Vince. :)

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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Rick Rude/Ron Simmons
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:13:12 GMT

In article <92328.145212IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, Brent Sutherland
writes:
>I beleive that Rude will win the title from Simmons at Starcade.
>I read in one of the sheets about three months back that it is in
>Rude's contract that he will hold the world title.  Then they
>could start of a US title tournament since Bill Watts seems to be
>into having tournaments lately.

That would be choice.  This way, Erik Watts doesn't have to beat a
face for the title.         ;-|

Actually, if WCW wants to survive, they *will* have Rude or someone
similar (Austin, Orndorff[?]) hold the strap for a while starting SOON!
They must know that heel champs (i.e., Flair) are way better for building
heat for house shows, on the presumption that more marks are likely to
buy tickets if a face stands a chance of "winning the title" from the
heel--this doesn't work the same in reverse.

These are champions I think would help WCW right now (although some
are obviously not going to happen...):

      WORLD:  Top heel (Rude, Windham (YEAH) or Austin)
      WORLD TAG:  Steiners
      US:  Top face (Simmons, Sting, or Steamboat)
      TV:  One of top heels
      LIGHT:  Pillman first, then Brad  (a Liger-Sano type series)  ;-)
              then Pillman, then Brad...

Anyway...

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of   
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for! 

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Sherri's new boy toy
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:15:32 GMT

steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa) writes:

>by gobbing on the hideous makeup. She is, IMHO, the third most attractive
>woman in wrestling, although I guess Elizabeth doesn't count anymore, so it's
>really only Madusa above her. Apologies to the fans of Rie whatever, but I
>don't catch any Japanese wrestling, so I can only comment on what I know.

Rie Miyazawa is not a wrestler. She's an actress, singer, nude model,etc...,
let's just say a sex symbol. Her name came up on this net when Herb mentioned
her marriage with a "future champion" of sumo Takahanada.

To those of you who follow Japanese wrestling, let's vote for Takako Inoue or
Manami Toyota!!!





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Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
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From: oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: PERFECT TEAMS w/ SAVAGE
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:52:09 GMT
Organization: Cosmic Monsters Inc.

> ...  It's kinda sad that
>the most intriguing angle in years is a throw-together.
>Eric Chmiel************************************

What's even more sad is that you have three once great workers in a
ring together and we still won't see a good match. 

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From: cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT)
Subject: Re: Warrior and Bulldog
Originator: cs921037@m02.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:14:53 GMT


In article <1992Nov14.022513.18058@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:
>> As has already been reported here the newest Torch says that Warrior and 
>> Bulldog were canned Tuesday Nov. 10. Saturday Nights main event will air the 
>> Warrior Savage vs. Money Inc match as is and then dub in something to explain 
>> why Warrior will not participate at Surviver Series. The two possiblities 
>> mentioned were Mr Perfect braking with Flair and teaming with Savage, (I know 
>> about his insurance settlement but that is what it said) or Hogan coming in to 
>> fill in for Warrior.
>>                                             David Kempster
>>                                             Fx


    Look for Hogan to return, cause after what happened on snme it doesn't look 
    Perfect is trading sides.


     Ron ("Hola, Me Chicos"--Ramon, all the time)
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From: shahryar@crc.ricoh.com (Shahryar G. Hashemi)
Subject: Where in the world is...
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 05:06:56 GMT

Dear all,

Does anyone know what happened to Tully Blanchard, Ronny "Hands of
Stone" Garvin and Jimmy Garvin??  Also is Sid coming back or what?

Shahryar

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From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman])
Subject: Re: All this SWF crap
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 06:44:38 GMT

In <BgDouB3w163w@peewee> peewee@infoserv.com (Philip Stromer) writes:


>        >I don't intend to speak for everyone on the net, but I think 
>        >the vast majority of us 
>        
>Then don't.        

>        >don't particularly care what's going on in your PBeM league. 
> 
>That's one vote against.  I vote FOR.  So Don is instantly canceled.
>Don, how does it feel to have scum like me CANCEL you before your
>eyes, before your very favorite newsgroup?


Well the scum part is right!!!



>        >Therefore, on behalf of those of us who read this group for 
>        >WRESTLING, not PBeM wrestling, please refrain from posting 
>        >commentary on the group.
> 
>Go stick your cavernous rectum where the Sun doesn't shine, dickwad.
>You net police make me gag.

On what you own dick or someone else's.


>        >Thank you. I'll get off my soapbox now.
> 
>Good.  Now bend over and insert soap back into its holder.



See how stupid you sound now shut the F%#@ UP!!!




Matt Kaufman 
Class of 1993
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Keywords: Best looking woman
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:20:32 GMT

schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein) writes:

>To say nothing of the All Japan ladies. Minami Toyota, rowr rowr! =P

...and Manami is the best worker in the whole wrestling world(including the
men's) today.



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Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: History of Japan
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(Hisaharu Tanabe) writes...
>As I repeat many times, Hogan has to lose to Inoki if Inoki EVER has
>his retirement match. He has to pay what he owes because he would never
>be that popular without Inoki.

    What's the story with Inoki?  I know he's involved in politics and has
little time to wrestle, but if he's not retired yet that must mean he wrestles
at least once in a while. How often does he don the tights, and when was his 
last foray into the ring?  I imagine with his status, even God would have to
job for Inoki if Antonio asked him to.

>Perhaps, we can ask Baba to book a Egg Dome main event "Handicap Cage Match
>with no time limit draw: Jose Gonzales & Carlitos Colon VS Stan Hansen, Tony 
>Atlas, Dutch Mantel, Jimmy Sunuka, Kevin & Kerry Von Erich, Jumbo Tsuruta, and 
>Berzerker with Dave Meltzer as referee and Barbara Goodish as ring announcer."

    OK, here's a good time to ask: exactly what is the complete story with
this situation?  Brody was stabbed to death in a locker room by Gonzalez,
correct?  And wasn't Atlas going to bring the final testimony but refused?
It's a been a long time since I tried to sort this one out.

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Eric Chmiel***************************************
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From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Would someone *please* tell me what happened on Prime Time???
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:00:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <mjenkins.722043400@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>I'm not trying to be impatient, but at least four people have
>specifically asked for this information, and no one had provided it.
>
>What happened on Prime Time that caused all this dissention, and
>prompted the flurry of posts that Hennig will become Savage's partner?
>
>Michael

  I was mostly watching the MNF Buffalo-Miami game but this is what I saw.
  Apparently Macho Man came on Prime Time "via satellite" and said he needed
  a partner and asked Mr. Perfect to be his partner.  I don't know how they
  explained the disappearance of the Warrior but he was never mentioned
  during the times when I was tuned in.  Anyway, McMahon, HillBilly Jim,
  and Jim Duggan spent the next hour (between matches) grilling the Brain
  and Perfect.  Bobby Heenan was great basically "rumblin, stumblin, &
  bumblin" trying to defuse the issue while simutaneously complimenting
  and accidentally insulting Hennig.  They also had Flair and Ramon on for
  their comments via satellite.  Ramon basically said that Hennig worked for
  them & he WAS a great wrestler but Hennig hadn't wrestled in over a year.
  Flair talked about "jet ridin', wine, & woman" and said Hennig was his
  kid and his baby. Macho Man came on "via satellite" and said maybe Hennig
  was a baby because Macho didn't think he had the guts to except his offer.
  etc. etc. Anyway when the time came for the decision, the Brain tried
  to speak for Hennig, a yelling match ensued and the Brain slapped Hennig.
  Hennig grabbed the Brain by the neck tie and accepted the Macho Man's
  offer.  Heenan got down of his knees and was begging Perfect but Perfect
  poured a pitcher of water over the Brain's head.  Everyone laughed. 
  End of story.

  I'm sure the person who posts the Prime Time report will have many more
  details but this is all that I saw.

-Rob

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From: lyle@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Lyle Youngblood)
Subject: Re: SWL First Round Match-Ups
Keywords: SWL, fantasy
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:21:40 GMT

Sorry but when I try mailing these to you, it keeps bouncing.
I am using cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca right?
Please drop me an e-mail note if you can, maybe "reply" will work
  in my mailer. Here is the letter I tried sending you.

    Okay, sorry about the delay in getting back to you, but how
will you be running this league?  Do we need to send in strategys (ala
the old IWF) or will you just be doing things on a point basis (ala most
of the e-wrestling leagues) or is it just a scripting league (ala the FWF
and EMWA)? Also can the "threats" you mention be broadcast to everybody
in some sort of weekly report or do you just mean it to be inter-personal?
At any rate, below you will find couple of "bits" from my two entries,
Jack "the Ripper" and BANZAI!!!

             [ roll tape ]
(In the studio are two men.  The smaller man is short, stout, and dapperly
 dressed in a white linen suit, snap-brim hat, and spats.  He is smoking
 a large cigar.  Behind him is a larger man, just a little under 6' tall,
 in a dark pin-striped suit.  He has a sallow complexion and a continuous
 muscular twitch on the right side of his face.  He has a bad-tempered
 expression on his face.  These are Jack "the Ripper" Morandini and his
 manager, Dominic "Da Boss" Altobelli)
Da Boss: Well, well, well.  Da first seeds in da SWL are out and it appears
  dat da Ripper gets ta face some nit-witted insect what call himself Da
  Tick. Whatcha got ta say ta dis loser, Jack?
Ripper: Nothing.
(the Ripper flicks open a switch-blade knife and grins at the camera)
Da Boss:  Well punk, looks like we're gonna see if youse can take a
  ripping and keep on ticking, eh?
Both:HAR-DE-HAR-DE-HAR-DE-HAR!!!
              [ end tape ]

<fade-in>
<two men in ninja costumes (one all black, the other all red) stand>
<flanking a third man who is dressed in WWII Japanese Army uniform>
Hojo Tojomoto: Halloween, fifty-one years ago next month, the forces
  of Imperial Nippon smashed the forces of the decadent West at Pearl
  Harbor.  When you step into the ring with us, we will destroy you
  as gloriously as our honorable anscestors did the U.S. Navy then.
  Ninja and Ronin will leave you crippled and begging for mercy, but
  there will be none, for it is our destiny to destroy all who face us.
All: banzai!...Banzai!!...BANZAI!!!
<fade-out>

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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Catch 22 : Re-Defined
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:21:15 GMT

I should have known I would be flamed for my controversial original note, but I
didn't expect to have my words twisted or intent misunderstood.

I did NOT say everyone here was an "idiot" or an "asshole" as one reply 
implied.

I do not think I am a "better" wrestling fan either. The Catch-22 I mean is 
that there are many who complain about McMahon and Watts and what they have 
done to the WWf and the WCW. Yet 90% of the posts here are detailed desciptions
of every single WWf and WCW shows and PPVs. As long as people support the 
cartoon clowns and slob crap, they will get what they deserve.

I only used the word idiot about so-called fans who scream "boring" if they
start seeing anything resembling wrestling.

  I am a disappointed, frustrated (not BETTER!) wrestling fan who started 
reading rspw hoping to find other fans who prefer wrestling to the show-biz 
buffoonery.  Yes, I'm aware that there is great wrestling in Japan, Mexico, 
etc.  But 90% or more of the articles here every day and week are about the
show-biz cartoon leagues and their antics.

  I had some valid observations. Flame me if necessary, but don't misquote or 
twist my words, please.






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buffonery
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Reminder: Clash of Champi
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:34:52 GMT

bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King) writes:

>Damn, what do you guys want? Everyone complains about one thing,

We want at least one good wrestling promotion in the US.

>then WCW changes it, then they complain about that too! I mean, there
>were some problems with the last Clash, but easy up a little. For instance,
>everyone was complaining about Robbie Walker being Simmons partner, blah
>blah blah but WCW puts in Too Cold Scorpio, who worked a pretty decent
>match. But what do most people on the network say? "Oh Watts, is going
>to ruin Scorpio" etc. I know WCW isn't as good as it once was, but you

I don't know who was talking about Walker(I wouldn't since I just didn't 
care), but we do have to worry about Scorpio considering the current situation
of the WCW.  Did he have a decent match?  It wasn't a decent match but was a
good introduction of Scorpio.

>also have to be realistic with your expectations. 

Are you telling us to enjoy watching WCW letting the talented ones go and using
untalented cheap ones? To be realistic with our expectations is to give up 
WCW(or the American wrestling as whole). That's why I'm saying WCW is dead.
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University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
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From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Phil Stromer Shut Up
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:41:56 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Listen I am here to talk about WRESTLING, not some poor dilluted homophobic
ideals about your disgusting lifestyle.  We all know about the trouble you
got into and I am not referring to you and Marty Janetty.  It seems that you
do not cease to amaze any of us who have been on the net for the past year. 
Your immature childish attempts to shock us does not work any more, so
PUHLEEESE shut up and try to be constructive when you post.

Here endith the flame.

Matt Kaufman
Class of 1993
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: the Torch
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:53:26 GMT

In article <18NOV199213504843@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.155744.19643@cis.ohio-state.edu>, atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes...
>> 
>>Can any r.s.p-w veterans offer me a little help?
>> 
>>I have a buddy who would sell all 4 of his reproductive organs if he could 
>>find out what 'the Torch' is.  Actually, he knows pretty much what it is.
>> 
>>How can he get it?
>> 
>>Please email information (I don't read r.s.p-w too often).
>> 
>>Thanks.
>> 
>
>Your friend has 4 reproductive organs.  Boy, I'd really like 
>to see that.  :)
>

Well...if he had 1 *more* reproductive organ, his pants would
fit him like a glove!


>That Catwoman ROTFL just couldn't resist.
>Hey Rick Shrum, how the heck are ya?
>

I'm doin' ok; still making *bad* jokes (as you can see).
Wuz up? (just don't ask th' guy with 4 of 'em that question! ;^]  )



>
>>-- 
>>_______________________________________________________________________________
>> Mark Atchison, a.k.a. <atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu>; Graduate Student in the
>>Computer Science Dept, THE Ohio State University (NOT an Ohio State University)
>>		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...

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From: kipilman@cats.ucsc.edu (Lou Kipilman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash thoughts
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:12:08 GMT
Organization: Team Slack
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <9211190451.AA19331@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com> writes:
>
>
>Battle Bowl drawing:  
>
>Dan Spivey (he's still with WCW, huh?) and Cactus Jack
>    vs
>Van Hammer and Vinnie Vegas (not sure if it was Vegas or not, actually)
>

Did anybody notice who they showed in the upper left hand corner of the screen
as Missy drew the names? It looked like a definite technical flub, because
no one mentioned it, but back in the locker room area it looked like:

Tex Slashinger and Shanghai Pierce
Steve Austin and...
PAUL ORNDORFF?

I'm not 100% sure because the picture was so small, but I'd recognize that
dorky "Mr. Wonderful" haircut anywhere. Or it could've been Z-Man or Johhny
Gunn and I'm just on drugs, but it looked kinda like Orndorff to me. Of
course, I thought Rick Rude looked like Jeffrey Dahmer :)

Also...I really liked everything about Barry's heel turn - the Blackjack
Mulligan moustache, the "Stella!" routine from the ring, the pummeling Dustin
took, and the backstage chair attack. Hopefully, the ol' Widowmaker will try
to help us forget Jake (Rehab) Roberts.

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From: rela@beach.csulb.edu (Robie Elizabeth La)
Subject: Re: Survivor Series musings...
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:40:10 GMT


Last night, Mark was down here in L.A., taking on Nailz, who was supposed to be
against the now defunct Ultimate Warrior.  I talked to Mark after his match at
his hotel, and I asked him how his arm was.  He said "Not good" and he had it
in a brace of some sort when he left the arena, though he took it off later to
go gallavanting.  Sort of sad...he said he wasn't going to wrestle until the
SS, and here they have him in for UW when he isn't in the best of shapes.  Oh
well...

In homage to the great urn,


The Grand Pooh-bah
From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Savage's Mystery Partner
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:36:57 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Who will the Survivor Series mystery partner be? I've seen Hogan's name
mentioned, and it would be an ideal time for him to come back into the
picture (at a live PPV event), but has Vince worked out an agreement
with him? How will the marks react to Hogan's weight loss, and how will
Vince explain it?

Perfect is another name that has been mentioned, but from all indications,
his back is still sore. Besides that, the foreshadowing of tension between
Flair and Perfect has subsided. It seems it's going to be billed as
"a mystery partner" and I doubt all of a sudden Perfect removes his
suit to show wrestling tights and says "Sorry" to Flair and Ramon to
team with Savage. To add to that, is Flair in good enough shape to work a
program immediately after Survivor Series with Perfect?

IMHO, the ideal option for Vince to choose would be the guy that he
wants to get over, but most of the fans aren't familiar with: Bob Backlund!
What better way to bring Backlund into the limelight than by getting
the pin over Flair or Ramon in a surprise appearance at a Pay-per-view?
Since Savage is leaving for a brief rest, Backlund could be programmed
against Ramon while Flair drops out of the scene because of his inner
ear troubles. Other than Hart, after Summerslam Vince doesn't have a
big face to use as a draw at house shows (Undertaker, but he's injured).

Opinions?

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