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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:36:20 EST
Reply-To:     Costa Karamalis <057504@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
From:         Costa Karamalis <057504@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      A0lhtika (apo agwnes Eyrwphs)

PODOSFAIRO:
AEK (Dhlwseis kai sxolia Mpagiebits, Proponhth Aintxoben kai Romario)
PAO (Dhlwseis Osim, Trapatoni, kai italikwn efhmeridwn)
OSFP (Dhlwseis Mplaxin, paixtwn, Ntaifa, Proponhth ths Monaco, paixtwn,
      gallinwn efhmeridwn,
      Metagrafes kai ananewseis symbolaiwn, A0letiko Madriths)
E0nikh Omada (nea proswpa kai poioi klh0hkan)
Marantona: -780ek.

Basket:
Olympiakos (Dhlwseis kai energeies Iwannidh)
AEK: Deyteros 3enos
Paok: Anastolh ths dialyshs
E0nikh Omada andrwn kai elpidwn


Podofairo
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AEK:
Print ton agwna me thn Aintxoben, oi Ellhnes fila0loi espasan bitrines
katasthmatwn kai dhmiourghsan epeisodia sto xwro opou poulountan ta
eishthria. (Oi synh0eies blepete den 3epernountai eykola)
"Iptamenos Brazilianos". Aytos htan o titlos gia ton Romario, ton
opoio o Mpagiebits xarakthrhse asygkrathto. O mpagiebits yposthri3e oti
h Aintxoben nikhse dikaia. "Meta to 2-0 den eixame na xasoume tipota kai
pe3ame epi0etika. Oi Ollandoi htan pio grhgoroi apo emas. Krathsan thn
mpala perissoterh wra sta podia tous kai dhmiourghsan eykairies me ton
Romario. Omws 2-3 eykairies eixe kai h omada mou kai 0a mporouse na
shmeiwsei gkol. Sygxarhthria sthn Aintxoben. Eyxomai na pai3ei ston teliko.
Gia mas htan mia shmantikh empeiria sto kypello Prwta0lhtriwn."
O texnikos ths Aintxoben eipe: "Sth maxh tou kentrou kerdi0hke o agwnas.
Riskarame giati h AEK eixe eykairies kai htan epikindynh mexri na ginei
to 3-0. Den exw empeiria apo to ellhniko podosfairo, alla exw ma0ei oti
ysterei se tempo. Piesame ton antipalo mas se diarkeia, kai se grhgoro
ry0mo kai den mporese, apo ena shmeio kai meta, na mas parakolou0hsei."
Prin ton agwna o proedros ths Aek eixe ta3ei prim prokrishs 7 ek. se
ka0e paixth. (5 ama prokri0oune, 7 ama nikhsoun).
Romario: "Den htan h idia h Aek pou antimetwpisame sthn A0hna kai egw
den piesthka apo kanena antipalo. Htan apo tous pio eykolous agwnes.
Eixa yposxe0ei tria gkol kai to ekana, eixa omws kai ligh tyxh."

PAO:
Afou aggi3e dyo fores to 0ayma me ton Bazexa (dokari) kai me ton Maragko
(enstiktwdhs apokoroush tou Peroutsi), o Pao efyge me to kefali pshla.
Osim: "Prokri0hke h omada me tis kalyteres monades. H ypo0esh prokrish
kri0hke sth diafora poiothtas. Kataferame kai e3oudeterwsame ta atou ths
Gioubentous kai agwnisthkame me tolmh kai aytopepoi0hsh. Den htan ayta
omws arketa na apokleisoun thn Gioubentous. Sygxarhthria stous paixtes mou."
Trappatoni: "Htan penalti toso h fash me ton Mpatzio oso kai me ton Biali.
O Pana0hnaikos htan tromaktika dyskolos. Mporousame na eixame ka0arisei to
paixnidi sto a' meros kai xwris agxos"
Koriere ntelo SPort: " Megalos Mpatzio, mikrh Gioubentous, kindynepse
parapanw apo to anamenomeno. Adikaiologhta akyrw0hke gkol tou Mpatzio"

OSFP:
Me ton titlo: "Enas, alla 0rylos" sxoliasan oi efhmerides thn epityxia
tou Olympiakou mias kai htan o monos pou perase.
H fash tou 90': O Karataidhs kai o Fofana epesan panw sthn mpala pou
brhke to aristero dokari, ktyphse sthn agkalia tou Mirtsou kai phre
katey0ynsh gia thn ...paratash alla o Mirtsos prolabe kai thn stamathse.
O Mplaxin afhse ston pagko panw apo 1.5 dis :-)
Mplaxin:"Htan to kalytero dwro pou 0a mporouse na mou kanei h omada mou sta
gene0lia mou (s.s. 40 xronwn egine o Mplaxin). San podosfarisths exw megales
epityxies, pou den mporw na 3exasw. Twra san proponhths tou Olympiakou 0a
prospa0hsw gia to kalytero dynaton. Apo tous podosfairistes e3artatai na
dwsoun to ma3imoum twn dynatothtwn tous gia na mas apoferei to kypello
Kypellouxwn!. Htan enas agwnas megalou endiaferontos. Oxi mono gia ton
Olympiako alla kai gia to ellhniko podosfairo. Sto prwto hmixrono h omada
epai3ei xwris podia kai myalo. O kosmos htan apaithtikos giati h0ele 3 gkol.
Sthn epanalpsh sta0hkame poly kala kai to epipedo tou Olympiakou htan
eyrwpaikhs omadas. Kataferame kai phrame thn prokrish ystera apo mia
synanthsh pou mporei na arese h oxi. Sto prwto paixnidi diapistwsa oti
eixame problhma sto kentro. Syzhthsa me tous ypopshfious paixtes kai
katalh3ame omofwno ston Mayrommath. Otan h omada kourasthke, mphke o
Mpatista kai dynamwsame. Oson afora tous Protasov kai Karapialh, proerxontan
apo traymatismous kai den hmoun sigouros an 0a htan etoimoi. Sigoura h pio
dysaresth stigmh gia mena htan to teleytaio deyterolepto, opou h mpala
xtyphse sto dokari. Ekeino pou 0elw na pw einai oti xreiazontai metagrafes
ousias gia to kalo ths omadas."
Mhtsimponas: "H monaco epai3e kalytera apo to prwto mats. Den exw 3anadei
omada na presarei toso poly. An paizame epi0etika 0a eixame pio polla
problhmata."
Karataidhs: "O kosmos h0ele tria gkol, alla ayto den htan eykolo. Pagwsa
sto 90'. Eixa brei thn mpala prin xtyphsei sto dokari kai otan eida ton
Mirtso na thn mplokarei h kardia mou phge sth 0esh ths."
Tsalouxidhs: "Mporoume na ftasoume kai teliko. Giato oxi? Grapsame istoria"
Mirtsos: "Sto podosfairo prepei na exeis kai thn tyxh mazi sou"
To prim ths prokrishs: 2ek se ka0e paixth.
Ntaifas:"Oi stoxoi mas einai megaloi. O Olympiakos 0a enisxy0ei stis
metagrafes. Pou 0a ftasoume?...H klhrwsh 0a mas pei."

Bengker (proponhths ths Monaco): "Mas stoixisan poly oi apousies basikwn
paixtwn mas. O apokleismos mas lyphse alla ayto einai to podosfairo. Lypamai
pou sto prwto paixnidi den mas sfyri3e o Belgos diaithths. Sthn edra mas den
mas dw0hke penalti. O Olympiakos epai3e kala mono ena 15lepto sto deytero
hmixrono. (s.s. tote eixe 2 eykairies me Tsiantakh kai Tsalouxidh). Stoxos mas
twra einai to prwta0lhma Gallias."
O texnikos manager ths Monaco eipe: "Eyxomai kalh tyxh ston Olympiako, alla me
thn mpalla pou epai3e shmera den pisteyw oti 0a proxwrhsei. Thn prokrish thn
xasame ston prwto agwna"
O arxhgos ths Monaco Etori:"An eixame kai emeis tetoio kosmo 0a eixame
prokri0ei." Stous opadous tou Olympiakou anafer0hke kai o Ntimp:" mou 0ymizoun
tous opadous ths Fegienort."
E3hnta eishthria phre h Monaco gia ton agwna...40 stous opadous kai 20 sthn
.....omada mpasket Gkrabelin pou antimetwpise thn Aek.
Oi gallikes efhmerides egrapsan oti oxi mono oi 0eoi htan Ellhnes alla
kai ta dokaria htan enation ths Monaco. Ekeino pou entypwsiazei pantws
einai oti se mia selida kritikhs den mporei na brei kaneis kapoia 0etika
sxolia gia ton Olympiako, mia omada pou h Monaco den katafere na kerdisei
se dyo agwnes. Ton xarakthrizoun san omada "apolyta asta0hs, pou edei3e
mia pa0htikothta apisteyth me e3airesh to prwto tetarto tou 2ou hmixronou"

A0letiko Madriths: Apo tis isxyroteres omades ths Ibhrikhs kai ths Eyrwphs.
Me polla asteria sto dynamiko ths exei tous fila0lous gia 12o paixth.
Merikoi apo tous paixtes ths: Ampel, Solo0ampal, Souster, Foutre, Manolo,
Agilera, Louis Gkar0ia.

Oson afora tis metagrafes, h ananewsh 7(!) symbolaiwn kai h apokthsh 4ou
3enou einai oi amesoi stoxoi.
)a prepei na krathsoun : Tsalouxidh, Tsiantakh, Paxatouridh, Sofianopoulo,
Talhkriadh, Xatzidh kai Nentidh, dapanwntas gia to skopo ayto panw apo
500ek. Kai an pros0esoume kai ton 3eno paixth tote pame sta 700-800 toulaxiston
. EMplokh parousiasthke sto 0ema ths ypografhs symbolaiwn apo tous
Tsiantakh kai Tsalouxidh. Oi paixtes phgan sto grafeiou tou proedrou alla
efygan otan tous parousiasthkan symbolaia 4 kai oxi 3 xronwn opws eixan
symfwnhsei arxika.To empodio mallon 0a 3eperastei, alla 0a prepei h PAE na
ay3hsei thn prosfora ths gia na krathsei ton Tsalouxidh. Pantws o Ntaifas
symfwnhse me ton Sofianopoulo (80ek) opws kai me ton Nentidh (40ek).
Pantws lefta pmhkan sth PAE afou apo ton xtesino agwna mono ebale sto tameio
peripou 130ek. (eishthria, diafhmiseis kai radiothleoptika dikaiwmata).


E0nikh Omada :
Neo proswpo sth E0nikh, o 20xronos Kwsths tou Hraklh.
O Panagoulias kalese gia ton agwna me thn Ouggaria tous:
Karagiannh, Manwla, Dhmhtriadh, Al3andrh, Mhtropoulo (AEK),
Baitsh, Mirtso, Paxatouridh, Tsalouxidh, Tsiatakh (OSFP)
Apostolakh, Dwnh, Frantzesko, (PAO)
Niomplia (OFH), Karkamanh (Arh), Toursounidh (PAOK) kai Kolitsidakhs (den
0ymamai )

Marantona:
To poso twn 780 ek. prepei na plhrwsei se forous o Marantona sthn italikh
kybernhsh, mias kai den eixe plhrwsei ka0olou forous gia esoda 3.1 dis., pou
eixe apo thn emporikh etaireia Ntiarma sthn italia.


Basket
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Olympiakos:
Iwannidhs: " Oi play-maker prepei na organwnoun to paixnidi kai na dhmiourgoun
pontous. As mhn shmeiwnoun kanenan"
To kako gia ton Olympiako 3ekinhse 17'' prin to telos (54-54) otan o Tomits
exase thn mpala xwris na piezetai. O Iwannidhs phre taim-out kai poios den
ton fobh0ke. Mexri kai xastouki edwse ston foukara ton Tomits, kati pou
epanelabe kai sthn paratasg (1.28'' prin to telos) ne 0yma ayth th fora ton
Lhmniath pou soutare gia 3 pontous anti na dwsei pasa.
Apo thn orgh tou Iwannidh den 3efyge kai o Zanon (diaithths) pou arnh0hke na
sfyri3ei faoul yper tou Tarlats kai edwse tzampol. O texnikos tou Olympiakou
arnh0hke sto telos na paei sth synentey3h typou, kai esteile ton synonomato
boh0o tou legontas:"Pes tous oti i diaithsia tous ekane ena wraio dwro."
Stous ellhned dhmosiografous eipe:" Periorisame tous paixtes ths Leberkouzen
kai den tous afhsame na soutaroun eley0era kai na epixeirhsoun aifnidiasmous.
Brhkan to ry0mo tous mono sto teleytaio lepto tou agwna.Se ayto to shmeio
fanhke h apeiria mias omadas. Kaname to la0os kai xasame."
O Proponhths ths Leberkouzen dhlwse:"O Olympiakos edei3e oti einai a3ios
sebasmou. Einai spoudaia omada kai a3ize th nikh. Epai3e kataplhktikh amyna
kai den mas afhne na broume to ry0mo mas. Den eimaste se kanena shmeio tou
agwna sigouroi gia tis kinhseis mas."

AEK:
O Mpampits 0ewreitai hdh parel0on gia thn aek. To endiaferos ths Aek strefetai
pros tous Xose Bargkas, Rod Sellers kai Bob Strigland. 0ema antikatastashs
tou Derek Hamilton o opoios den exei ikanopoihsei mexri twra den ti0etai afou
kati tetoio 0a eixe sobaresoikonomikes epiptwseis sthn Aek.

Paok:
Prin ton agwna me thn Limoz o Fasoulas eixe dhlwsei oti ama xasoume 0a dia-
ly0oume. Meta thn nikh eipe gelwntas: "H dialysh anastelletai"

E0nikes Omades:
Andres. Treis agwnes emeinan. Me Ouggaria (10/11 sthn A0hna), me Souhdia
(14/11 sthn Stolxomh) kai me thn Roumania (18/11 A0hna).
Klh0hkan: Fasoulas, Tsekos, Papadakos, Kampourhs, Retzias, Bourtzoumhs,
Giannakhs, Pataboukas, Mpakatsias, F. Xristodoulou, Glakteros, Mhriounhs
kai Aggelidhs.
O Kioumourtzoglou dhlwse gia ton xarakthrismo ths E0nikhs ws omadas twn
anaplhrwmatikwn:" Me ton 2o 3eno, tous omogeneis kai tous...yio0ethmenous
exoume sobaro problhma kai ta epomena 4-5xronia 0a einai dyskola. Symbainei
epishs kai kati prwtofanes. Enw ws twra oi omades htan oi arwgoi thn E0nikhs,
twra h E0nikh ginetai arwgos twn omadwn. AYth h istoria me tous omogeneis
me enoxlei alla dystyxws den mporw na kanw tipota."
Elpidwn: Klh0hkan 19 paixtes: Mpountourhs kai MPalogiannhs (PAOK), Lhmniaths
kai Sigalas (OSFP), Gkagkaoudakhs (peiraikos), Abdalas, Asteriadhs kai
Papanikolaou (Sportigk), Mwraiths (Arhs), Dreliwzhs (Paniwnios), Oikonomou
Mhriounhs kai Alberths (Pao), Logo0eths (Papagou) Xatzopoulos kai Xwlopoulos
(Hraklhs) Retzias (Danaos) Gkousgkourhs (Filippos) kai Tampakhs (Esperos).



Kwstas.
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