From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: When is anime not anime?
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:59:42 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Aug10.190833.13394@sura.net> wbarnes@sura.net writes:
 > >I know. Let the ignoramuses of the world use that term if they like. :)
 > 
 > Although what I really wonder about are the ones who use the term "Japanime."
 > Has anyone else heard this before?  It seems odd to me...I mean technically,
 > anime is just the Japanese word for animation, so saying "Japanime" to
 > distinguish Japanese animation from other animation isn't so silly, but
 > in Western fandom, anime is usually meant to be synonymous with Japanese
 > animation, so...  Am I the only one who thinks using this word is funny?

No, I too have heard it used. Usually by people too lazy to say the
whole word. :)

 > Maybe I didn't make it clear, but I was focusing on the dubbed stuff.  Yes,
 > I prefer subtitles too, but my point was that almost all of the halfway-
 > decent dub jobs have come from Macek.  Scary, huh?

That's because he's the only one who's done dubs (for a long time). You
focus on the dubbed stuff, I run away from it. :)

 > >Believe it or not, besides Laputa I count Zillion as his greatest work.
 > 
 > Considering all Carl did with Laputa was distribute it (like Akira, he
 > didn't do the actual dub), then that means Zillion is his greatest work!
 > 8->

I know. But I mean the project he was involved with in some way, be it
contracting to dub, whatever...

 > >It had nothing overly tops going for it to start with (other than
 > >Apple's cleavage)
 > 
 > You single-minded hentai, you.  8->

Etchi, just etchi. Hentai is when you see the Wandering Kid review at
the end of the second movie (15 minutes of all the "ahem" scenes from
WK1-3 edited together). Now, that's SICK! :)

 > Not that argument again!  Although I do find it funny that Carl changed
 > "White Nuts" to "White Knights" to make it sound "better," but didn't mess
 > with the characters' names (Apple, Champ, and J.J.?!  C'mon!).

In fact, for once the voices actually matched quite well with the
original (japanese girlfriend lent me her tapes recorded off TV).

 > And I agree, Carl did a fairly good job with Zillion.  It's not *entirely*
 > his fault that it was so mindless to start with!  8-)

Exactly. Brian in "neutral" and just cruise.

 > >(I never will! 90% of fan subs I have seen are way
 > >better than dubs.)
 > 
 > Well, then the feeling is mutual - you don't care about Carl and he doesn't
 > care about you (i.e. fandom).  Works rather well, don't you think?

I'd care about him if he did subs (like Akira). His work is just so WAY
sub-standard. (We had to pull the dubbed episode 1 of Nadia off the air
when we showed it. 130 people in the hall were having trouble keeping
their dinner down. :)

 > >NOT! :) He still remains the anti-otaku in my mind.
 > 
 > Where does that people like Sandy Frank, then?  8-]

They don't exist. :) Thankfully, SF hasn't touched anime in years.

 > >You do the work, you reap the rewards. Fascinatingly, the people in
 > >Sydney are just as "disorganised" in their fandom as the east coast of
 > >the US. Is it something about having the sun setting in the ocean???
 > 
 > Yeah, it burns out the brains of West Coasters, making them more suitable
 > for running anime cons.  8->

Well, there ya go. That's what's happened to me. Different ocean, same
result. :)

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