HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: <MITRA@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject: I-Tax on RA/TA salary
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:55:01 GMT

Would be grateful if you can clarify some issues regarding Income
tax payable by Indian Students on assistantship at U.S univs.

1. In discussions with the Student Advisers at USEFI it was made
   clear that while earlier Indian students at U.S universities
   paid income- tax, effective from the Oct'90 when a tax treaty
   was signed by the two countries, the earnings from assistantships'
   would be exempt from income tax. In fact some students who were
   then already studying in the U.S also said that their univs. did
   deduct tax from their pay cheque even after Oct '90 but this was
   stopped later and the total sum deducted since Oct' 90 was refunded.

2. Here at Purdue we still pay I-tax on assistantship salary at the
   rate of around 12% of gross pay. This consists of both federal
   and state taxes.

3. When the Oct'90 tax treaty was brought to the notice of the authorities
   here they showed us the photocopy of a single page of the tax treaty
   wherein it is stated that an Indian student on any fellowship or
   assistantship in a U.S univ will be exempt from I tax on any income
   earned outside the U.S.

4. Two reasons we doubt that something is wrong
   - This is totally contrary to the information given at USEFI
     and also given by some Indian students studying on RA/TA ship here.

   - A single page of a tax treaty does not give the full picture and
     can sometimes be misleading

We will be very grateful if you can throw light on the issue. We are
specially interested if

- Your RA/TA salary is not taxed. What is the reason as stated by
  the univ. authorities ?
- If your univ. used to deduct tax even after Oct'90 but later stopped
  and refunded the money. What made them do so ? ( we are looking for
  supporting arguments that we can duplicate here )
- Any idea where I can get hold of this tax treaty

It is possible that some of these issues have already been discussed
in detail in s.c.i., some of us new here are not fully aware of the finer
points, however we would be happy to get any info. to resolve the issue
esp. since some of the old-timers at Purdue are not 100% sure of what
is going on.


Thanks

Shubhashish Mitra
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:34:47 GMT

dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:

>				MEMO
>				----


>TO:	Deepak Bose, Deb Chatterjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, anonymous obscene posters,
>	others who post *really* obscene and offensive material

>FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
>	Indignant and frustrated readers

>REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
>	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN


>After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
>to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
>copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
>action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
>will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
>He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
>be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
>evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)

>If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
>express your opinion.  A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
>your own name.  Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
>rather then doing a REPLY.  This way you will convey to the offenders that you
>feel as strongly about this.

>A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
>It is NOT a joke.

	
		ARE------------ YOU--------------KIDDING    ????????????
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From: sramacha@talitha.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Hindu Marriage Rituals
Date: 31 Dec 1992 11:47:25 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: talitha.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec31.131438.16359@news.acns.nwu.edu> rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.210502.1701@oracorp.com> narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana) writes:
>>To Continue this thread on Vedic marriage rituals further:
>>
>>When my eldest sister was married (long ago), the bride and bridegroom
>>wore Madhuparkhams. A madhuparkham is clothing dipped in
>>termeric water and dried. The clothing is a Dhothi for the Bridegroom
>>and a 9-yard saree for the bride. The clothing is invariably
>>made of pure white cotton.
>>
>>So traditional is this for Vaisnavites settled in AP, that during
>>the marriage, my sister's mother-in-law's parents walked out
>>of the marriage ceremony. Ofcourse as you expect, they were
>>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66   
>Tamils and apparently, the Tamil marriage ritual regards
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>






Now, did they walk out after the wedding lunch, or before ???






--Sorry for barging into a very serious discussion. Just couldn't resist.
  Flames welcome!
From: sreeni@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (K. Sreenivasan)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:18:29 GMT
Subject: Bangalore and IIT's
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

Bangalore has at last made the San Jose Mercury News in a big way.  It
was the subject of two articles one on Monday by Michael Zielenziger and the
editorial on Dec. 28.  Bangalore is an anglicised transliterated
phrase for "Boiled Bean Town" in Kannada; I am happy it made it big.  
I am certain Bangalore's fame has nothing to do with the fact that there 
are no IIT's in Bangalore!!!

Krishnamachar Sreenivasan.

(University College of Engineering, 1957
Indian Institute of Science, 1959)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sanjay@eng.umd.edu (Kumarasamy Sanjay)
Subject: Re: Can GOI rebuild the mosque?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 18:25:23 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: sanjay@valkyrie.eng.umd.edu


In article <DASU.92Dec23113738@sscux1.ssc.gov>, dasu@sscux1.ssc.gov (Sridhara Dasu) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.194804.3465@u.washington.edu> sivabala@faraday.ee.washington.edu (Siva Bala Narayanan) writes:
>
>   Just a curious question. Given the facts that India is constitutionally
>   secular and that the constitution takes precedence over the parliament,
>   does the Indian constitution have provisions that allow the Central
>   Government to build religious places of worship?
>
>   Can some constitution "dhaadhaa" clarify my doubt?
>
>   Siva
>
>
>Indian Government at State level manages temples (ex. Tirupati Temple).
>Several State govt.s have WAQF ministers etc. AIR and Doordarshan, which
>are owned by Indian Govt. have regular religious programs. Separation
>of Church and State is a myth.
>
>Besides, the Babri Masjid site is to be maintained by Arch. Survey of I.
>They can call the reconstruction as repairs!
>
>I don't think that constitutionality of reconstruction is a problem. 
>
>				- Sridhara Dasu

 Even if there is any, parliment can always pass an amendment. Remember
Shahbanu case? ( nobody would stand in your way if you are trying to woo
minority)

Have fun

-sanjay
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From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Subject: Mustafa
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 07:24:38 GMT

Why ddo you all have to use such words
against that poor chap Mustafa. 

I really felt that he has real power. He started
a real good topic. Difference between man and animal.
He started the proof like we asume root 3 as a   
rational number. He used himself as a guiney pig.
That is even great.

He started a controversy. Only two sentence. I never succeded
like this.

Leaving aside the lighter side. People werw complaining that
they don't like to read religion. Do you think we like reading
bad words. I wish I complain to all your ADMINS.

Why do you have to use bad words? 

Be a little matured. Samit, and other stop this.
And Mr. HA HA HA HA, we are tired of HA HA HA HA. Stop it.

-- 
With regards
 
SUPRATIC GUPTA
From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal : alt.culture.bengali
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:51:45 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.


>>>>> In article <1992Dec28.001409.45922@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>>>>>> In article <SHUBU.92Dec27110725@green.cs.wisc.edu>, shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee) writes:

SSM>...... (deleted)...... 
SSM> By the way Samit, looks like you are already under the impression that 
SSM> only very few people want this newsgroup even before the referendum 
DC> 						   ?????????????????????

DC> I smell Kashmir here ! What would it be: "BONGO-UDDHAR SAMITI" ????????

SSM> asked for has taken place.   Isn't it time to be politically correct (your
DC> 				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
SSM> use of word 'pushing' says it all)?
DC>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DC> Wow ! Look who's talkin' now ! E.M.S Namboodripad at Vijaywada Congress ???

DC> Politically correct ? What's that, " Comrade Mukherjee " ????????

(Being politically correct is to call the homeless "residentially 
 handicapped" :-))

However, you will never change, Mr. Chatterjee!   I am afraid that this 
type of posting might dominate alt.culture.bengal once it's created. 

Bijoy, you should propose a moderator for alt.culture.bengal.  

Anmyway, there is a GNU effort underway supporting the splintering of 
newsgroups.  The user will have the flexibility in constructing nesgroups of 
his own from the fragments.  For example, you might have newsgroups like 
comp.arch.networks, comp.arch.storage, comp.arch.shared-memory etc.  However,
I would be able to customize my newsreader to show me only a newsgroup called
comp.arch (or whatever I want to call it), which will gather all the
articles in the splintered newsgroups.  I needn't even bother that the 
newsgroup is fragmented down below. 

People have been increasingly feeling the need for such splintering for 
a variety of reasons.  However, I guess that some of the newsreaders already 
do allow such flexibilty.  

Luck!
-Shubu
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From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: alt.culture.bengali-rasagulla
Date: 2 Jan 1993 13:53:16 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Rosogolla-hater Godura writes:
>In article <1hq8omINNgtf@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>>	You try to touch any of those rasogolla (Shlurrrppppp PBUT) factories
>>	and you'll repent dearly, buster. Communal bloodbath across the
>>	cowntry, I warn you. The rasogolla lovers won't yield to your
>>	pseudo-sweet-toothing.
>
>The Vishwa Sandesh Parishad has recently discovered that the Ganguram
>rossogolla factory was built upon the ruins of the great Pracheen
>Sondesh Kaarkhaana in 1889 AD. 
>All Sondesh faithfuls around the world are urged to resist the efforts
>of the Rossogolla Factory Action Committee and DEMOLISH the structure so
>symbolic of sondesh suppression !
>Down Rossogollas !
>Ruchir.


	This is a blatant violation of the sweetular nature of our 
	cownstitution. Any attempts by the Sandesh fanatics to touch the
	Ganguram factory will spark off the mother-of-all-riots in
	Rosgollastan. All Sandesh factories will be razed and sandesh 
	supporters torched, innocent or otherwise. The revered Syed 
	Rosgolluddin of	the RFAC (Rosogolla Factory Action Comm.) has warned 
	the head(less) of VSP (Vishwa Sandesh Parishad), Mr. Sandesh Single 
	about this. (This featuring prominently on Sandeshwani today).
	
	I-llilah-e-rasogolla!

	FFT






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From: an3814@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Sameet's Hypocracy
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:37:38 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh

X-Anon-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh

Dear Readers:

Recently, some articles were published by an3925@anon.penet.fi in which
very abusive language was used against Deb, Deepak, and all Bengalis.
In these articles, Mustafa's name was used as the author.  These articles
were written with an evil sprit of putting flames on Mr Mustafa and making
thes newsgroups the dumping yard of filthy language.  But the author was 
so stupid that he thought that by using anonymous service, he can hide 
himself.  You must be wondering that who that insane is.  He is bastard
of all time Mr. Samit Bannerjee.  Ironically, he is himself a Bengali and
a Hindu but he used filthy language against his Hindu Bengali brothers.

The proofs which I have, are sufficient to get his account cancelled at 
USC.  However, I leave this to the readers of SCP/SCI/SCB to decide what
we should do with him.

A piece of advice to all users of annonymous service, dont use very 
abusive language or threaten others since this service is not meant for
this.  And if you abuse this service, your actual account can be cancelled!!

Regards,

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From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindus Resume Prayers in Ayodhya Shrine
Date: 2 Jan 1993 21:11:23 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: Ayodhya Prayers

In article <1i4tu5INNd1u@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
|> 
|> >It is very difficult to understand how the GOI thinks.
|> >
|> >Manoj
|> 
|> 	tee hee :) GOI and "thinks" ?

Yup. More like "reacts." They have long-since accepted the maxim that thinking
strains the mind. Besides, thinking might actually get them to do the Right
thing (oh, horror!).

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:59:04 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota


	Knock-Knock !!
	Who is there ?
	Milk man .
	This is not the right time to do it,but who the hell are you ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: an4329@anon.penet.fi
Subject: JINNAH
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:07:06 GMT

X-Anon-To:soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan

On 25th Dec. two persons were born :


        1) Jesus Christ : Son Of God
        2) Jinnah       : Son Of a Bitch .

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:30:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.080745.23025@news.eng.convex.com> gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner) writes:

>In article <1993Jan2.184653.25567@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>>Notwithstanding the decidedly anti-American prejudice of
>>Mr. Thadani's article 

>	You're mistaken if you think that was anti-american Ed.  It was 
>	anti-US-imperialism.  Not all of us believe that America should
>	foist its warped so-called intellectual property laws on the rest of 
>	the world.  
>
>						smg
>

Well said, Steve !  Judging by Mr Crick's postings, I suspect, however, 
that the distinction will be lost upon him. 

-Sayan Bhattacharyya.

-----------

I speak only for myself .
From: varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Dharma Sansad Demands Lifting of Bans
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:05:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1h5eteINNm0g@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
> 
> I wish that the Shankaracharyas et al. would keep their noses out of
> political affairs. 

As a matter of principle, it should be so. However the argument goes
both ways. Politics should not meddle with religion either. To my
knowledge RSS and VHP were non-political religious organizations. I am
not aware of either campaigning for power politics. The have been
banned for political reasons hence ...

> If they collectively endorse the BJP in the next election, the trend begun
> by Bukhari in 1989 of religious heads endorsing political parties will be
> complete; and their credibility cannot but erode, hurting the faith in the
> long run. 

Yes, Bukhari started a dangerous precedent. But it can not be ignored.
The game of politics is not played in isolation and if one party (the
Congress) goes for a religious endorsement then the others will have to
do the same for survival's sake.

Harsh Varma
Department of Computer Science
Rutgers University

Disclaimer: None. Please, everyone adopt my opinion, I am right!

PS: Please don't flame me. I get very scared by death threats.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Welcome to SCI!!
Keywords: reason, culture, etiquette
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:26:45 GMT

In article <aa.725734460@hela.iti.org> aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana) writes:
>Etiquette:	While free-speech is not in question, what 
>		becomes highly questionable is the inability of
>		net-citizens to understand that every word they
>		write goes into some archive somewhere, is read by
>		people the world over, and in fact read by one's
>		colleagues, ex-students, supervisors to-be, 
>		possible soul-mates, and by one's near and dear ones
>		which can include the nuclear family as well. 
>		As they say the pen can be mightier than the sword,
>		and can be instrumental in shaping reality.

All I can say on this piece of blah is the following. I must be damn stupid
to conduct my personal and professional relations with individuals on the
basis of what they write on sci. So get rid of this idea that you need
to fear that someone your supervisor/professor/employer is reading what
you post. As long as you post what comes through your heart and do so
with the expectation that what you write achieves responses of many kinds,
some of which you may take into account and some you can ignore.
The key is to be open and truthful. "Truth is Brahman," Gandhi Uvacha.

Fear not on what you write! It should not in any way affect your career,
or personal life, or professional life. Not having fear is important.
Individuals who fear can achieve nothing!

>Aayush Asthana
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Alt.culture.bengal
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:26:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hi Netters,

when do we have our own alt.culture.bangla newsgroup? I think
it is overdue.  While many of these newsgroups such as a.c.tamil
are used for people-bashing, we could use a.c.b to talk about
the poetry and culture of Bengali society, especially of the
last century. Any takers?

Bijoy

t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu
bijoy@geol.niu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana)
Subject: Re: Welcome to SCI!!
Keywords: reason, culture, etiquette
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:44:44 GMT

narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:

>All I can say on this piece of blah is the following. I must be damn stupid
>to conduct my personal and professional relations with individuals on the
>basis of what they write on sci. So get rid of this idea that you need
>to fear that someone your supervisor/professor/employer is reading what
>you post. As long as you post what comes through your heart and do so

Certainly, fear is anathema!  But what comes through your heart
should be a song that stirrs the souls of others...

>with the expectation that what you write achieves responses of many kinds,
>some of which you may take into account and some you can ignore.
>The key is to be open and truthful. "Truth is Brahman," Gandhi Uvacha.

Yes, openness and truthfulness are important -- by evoking the
dharmic principle of 'truth is brahman,' you cannot do away with the
`karmic' aspect of it, however, and therein lies the rub.

>Fear not on what you write! It should not in any way affect your career,
>or personal life, or professional life. Not having fear is important.

In principle, yes; in practice, not quite for the reason above.

>Individuals who fear can achieve nothing!

An individual who fears nothing is rare: those who take the
spiritual path also fear or are at least awed by the sublime.  The
removal of that fear is when truth is brahman.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: skilleda@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (SUDHANSHU )
Subject: testing ....
Summary: just testing
Keywords: test
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:59:04 GMT



this is just  a test . pls ignore.

thankyou 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: usp@futserv.austin.ibm.com (Uma S. Pandey)
Subject: Need Amiga Fonts for Hindi Language?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:55:06 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD Austin, TX

Hi Guys,

Does anybody know, if there are fonts avaiable for Hindi language on Amiga
computers. Or, if there is an editor that will let me create any fonts I like?
Any pointers will be helpful.

Thanks.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian