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From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: joy division
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 12:27:30 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

carl@bain3.bain.oz.au (Carl Sandland) writes:

> 	I think all new order fans should seek out and listen to at least one
> joy division album, it really gives you a bit more respect for them, and
> provides a completely different sound. NO's first album was a under-rated 
> classic because it was such a MESH between the two.
> 
> 	I love 'Closer', and especially 'Decades', man that has to be the best
> song ever written.... I wonder what would have been if Ian didn't go, he
> certaintly wouldn't have been into disco much!! Early NO and later JD, that's
> the period of excellence....
> 
> 	Does anyone think Nirvana sounds a bit like JD????? :)

i have movement and see it as one of their finest efforts. i also have
joy divsion's substance album. i love it. i received in mail, an
extensive joy division discography. many thanks to whomever mailed it to
me. when funds provide i will more than likely go hunt all these down. i 
am looking forward to it. :) again, thanks to whomever sent me the list.
-g

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genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   02-Oct-92 at 12:28p

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From: sbtaves@icaen.uiowa.edu (Steven Bradley Taves)
Subject: Re: About moshing......
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:02:24 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

I'm not defending the jocks you all are talking about, but I'd like
to say that at many concerts I've wanted to just stand close to the
stage and enjoy the show without constantly shoved.  And I'm not 
talking about the generic shoving that goes on just because it's
crowded up front.  I'm refering to the shoving that occurs because
the people moshing fifteen feet away are indirectly shoving the
whole group of people in front.
-- 
____________________________________________________________________
"A boy he was tangled in his fight forever, a girl was missing
 two fingers","Why do they kill children, and why do I wanna die"
-Throwing Muses 
Got any news on The Breeders? Email me sbtaves@icaen.uiowa.edu
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From: jazzman@vnet.ibm.com (John Bannister)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Happy Flowers recommendations?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:01:36 GMT
Reply-To: jazzman@vnet.ibm.com (John Bannister)
Organization: East Fishkill, NY


 houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) writes:
 eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt) writes:
> >   Would any of you like to recommend material by those much 
> >missed funsters Mr. Anus and Mr. Horribly Charred Infant, 
> >a.k.a. The Happy Flowers? 
> 
> Homestead just re-issued all their Homestead 7"s on one CD (with about
> 20 or so extra tracks, including covers of the Beatles, Echo & the 
> Bunnymen, DRI, and My Dad Is Dead). A very good comprehensive history!

There's also a greatest hits(?) on Homestead called 'Too Many Bunnies,
Not Enough Mittens' (sick, huh?).  I think it covers material up 
through 'Oof!', but maybe it stops at 'I Crush Bozo' (is this the right
title?).  Anyway, without fail you NEED to own either 'Too Many Bunnies,
Not Enough Mittens' or 'My Skin Covers My Body' so that you can have
the songs(?) 'Jenny Tried to Kiss Me at Recess' and 'Not Fade Away'.

As a matter of fact, I would suggest 'My Skin Covers My Body' to make 
sure that you get 'Toastfire'.  I don't think 'Toastfire' is on 
'Too Many Bunnies...'  But then again, 'Too Many Bunnies...' has 
'Charlie Got a Haircut'.  'Charlie...' would probably also be on the 
above mentioned compilation of 7"'s.

This is kind of like trying to buy a Kinks greatest hits album.  There's
plenty of them out there, but you'll never find one that has ALL of the
songs you want.

GOOD LUCK
From: mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: MLB & PJ
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:08:39 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Has anybody else on the net seen the "new" Mother Love Bone release?

I ask this because I just saw it yesterday.  It is not a new release, it
is merely a compilation of everything that was on _Apple_ and _Shine_. 
Convieniently released at the same time as the height of Pearl Jam's
fame and the success of the Temple of the dog album.  Is there anybody
else out there who thinks this is just about the shittiest fucking thing
that can be done to the music and lyrics of Andy Wood?  Pearl Jam gets
brought up in this rant because of this one little convienient sticker
on this MLB release, a sticker that informs the buying public of the
presence of two members of Pear Jam (namely Stone Gossard and Jeff
Ament) on this album.  I really don't think that their names could be
used without their permission, so these two assholes are using their
newfound fame to try to scrape a few more bucks from time when they were
lucky enough to be in a band with someone of the genius of Andy Wood.

I'd like to expand my little tirade a little further now, to encompass a
topic which has been broached a few times on the net, and I would hope
can be discussed further.  The topic is mainstream success, and what are
the ramifications of it.  I don't think that there's a general concensus
that those of use who listen to "alternative" music want to "keep it to
ourselves" I personally am very happy that more people are getting into
MLB, but I am a little trepidatious as to under what guise they first
hear of MLB.  If it is as the band two guys from Pearl Jam were in, that
in and of itself isn't bad, but my main fear (and it's a selfish one,
I'll be the first to admit it) it the type of crowd which will be
listening.  I don't want "Holy Roller" to lose it's satirical and social
value and become "that cool song about buttfucking some chick" and it
would be an utter tragedy if "Man of Golden Words" became the "one song
that doesn't kick ass" and the victim of a million fast forward and
advance buttons.  In other words, I'm worried about how the
representation of MLB would be distorted by the type of assholes which
made the pits at Lollapalooza extremely dangerous.

I'd like to request feedback, as I think this is a topic very much worth
debate.

thanx,
Mike
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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: NIN
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:44:44 GMT

In article <92275.203636JD2859A@auvm.american.edu> Jeff Dubin <JD2859A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>What? No discussion of the new NIN???!!!
>
>Well, I'll start:
>I think Suck and Last are the two best NIN songs not only from this album, but
>ever from Trent.  I've been looking for Suck forever.  Does the tape have
>the extra two songs that came on the CD3?  And what is the name of that 1st
>song?

Strictly speaking,"Suck" is not a NIN song. It was a song Trent co-wrote with Pigface and appears (in a much better form, IMHO) on the Pigface album "Gub".
I have heard that the 2 bonus songs ("Physical(You're So)" and "Suck") are on the cassette as well, but are not listed. Don't quote me on that though.

>Kinda dissapointed that :
>c) how long have we been waiting?  only 30 mins total?
>
Most probably know that Trent had a falling out with TVT Records, which still
had him under contract. If you look closely at the "Broken" credits, you will
notice that the copyright is owned by TVT...Maybe this EP is just a compromise
between TVT and Interscope/Atlantic/Warner/Whatever, and the album rumoured 
to out in February will be void of all TVT ownership...Pure conjecture, however.But you are right. Three years between new releases (single remixes don't count
in my book) is too bloody long to wait for 4 new songs, 2 more 1 minute or so 
long filler songs, and 2 covers. But it's been living in my walkman for a week.
From: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NEGATIVLAND TOUR DATES
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:41:23 GMT
Reply-To: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <1992Sep29.145150.26323@athena.cs.uga.edu>, houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) writes...
>ANOTHER KNITTING FACTORY TOUR:
> 
>NEGATIVLAND
>AMY DENIO
>ROY NATHANSON & ANTHONY COLEMAN DUO
> 
>TOUR SCHEDULE:
> 
[tour listing deleted]

WHAT?! Not one date anywhere NEAR the west coast?  Is there no hope?

#############################################################################

               "If you can't lick'em, put 'em on with a big piece of tape."

Oscar Fowler
omf@hacks.arizona.edu
From: jybriend@ens-lyon.fr (Jean-Yves Briend)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth (huh?)
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:01:48 GMT
Reply-To: jybriend@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon


In article 717167772@dhhalden.no, gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
> I have been inactive on this group for quite some time now due to heavy 
> obsession of FR-MUD!
> However it seems as there are now a whole lot of potential Sonic Youth fans 
> out there. What strikes me as funny is that everybody seem to think that Goo 
> and Dirty are the only recordings they ever did.......
> Why haven't anyone yet brought up the REALLY good old ones like Bad Moon 
> Rising and Evol..??
> 
> 
>           /\           | I didn't say this.      | "I never forget a
>         /    \         | My supervisor would     | face. Especially
>       /        \       | kill me if i did.       | when I've sat
>     /    (<>)    \     |_________________________| on it."
>   /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          | -Kathleen Turner
> /____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| Crimes of passion


and SISTER.....
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From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Every Man and Woman is a Star)
Subject: Re: Daisy Chainsaw
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:56:11 GMT

gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:

>>Does anybody know when Daisy Chainsaw's album "Lovesick Pleasure" is coming
>>out?  I believe it's sometime in October, but I want to know exactly when. 
>>Some radio stations already have it, I think.

>A couple of things:
>			Its: Love Sick Pleasure.
>			It's not an album....It's a 3 track 12" single.
>			It came out in -91.

Don't be so smug..... Yes, there is a 3-track 12" single called 
"Love Sick Pleasure". that and the "Pink Flower" 12" single were
combined here in the US to make a 5-track CD single. (Dropping
"Get More Pleasure" in the process, tho.)

There is a full Daisy Chainsaw album out this Tuesday, the 29th. The
A&M rep in New York confirmed this for me. Hopefully, I'll have a copy
in my greedy little hands by then....

-- 
Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com 
"Got enough guilt to start my own religon."
From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: joy division
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:37:58 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

does anyone out in letland like joy division? i have one album, 
substance. i know there are quite a few more available but they are hard 
to find out here. does anyone know how many they put out and their 
titles? and what ever happened to the band members?
-g

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genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   29-Sep-92 at 4:39p
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From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Acoustical Guitar?
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:34:38 GMT

In <kbennett.717708713@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:

>Throwing Muses is primarily an electric band but one of the things
>I have always liked about them is that they can use acoustic
>guitars in songs that really rock out, and you can still hear the
>acoustic guitars!  I have a number of "Indigo Girls-type" bands in
>my collection, but folkie guitars are everywhere and a really
>rocking band that uses acoustic guitars is something worth finding.


	Say...You should check out this "Mark Eitzel"
	song of love and hate thing !!!!!


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From: gish@NCoast.ORG (Tyson Chihaya)
Subject: Re: The evils of Pearl Jam WAS Re: Temple of the Dog
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:39:09 GMT

enriquk@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (everyday oozer) writes:
: Just a quick question on the subject of Pearl Jam...
: am I wrong to think that Pearl Jam just appeared out of nowhere...
: I mean I know that they're tied to Mother Love Bone/ Green River...
: but I could swear that I never heard of them until I saw them on
: MTV.  I lived in Seattle from 88-91 and used to go to shows a lot.
: I don't recall ever seeing Pearl Jam anywhere...did they not do any
: local shows????  Or was I completely unobservant.
: 
: BTW...I don't want to criticize Pearl Jam's music.  I like Eddie Vedder's
: voice...but I don't really like the sound...it's too polished for
: my taste.  But that's just personal preference...everybody has a
: different taste in music (as we can see by the big argument over
: Nirvana vs. Pearl Jam).  
: 
: Kelly

Pearl Jam was originally going under the name Mookie Blaylock, and I
think that's what they played the majority of their earlier gigs under.
(Hence the title of their album is MB's jersey number...)


-- 
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                |  soul capricorn sister freddie mercury jezebel child
                |  motherlovebone breeds like rabbits gonna set you free
From: memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Johnny and Sid
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:21:12 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <Bv2284.B94@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tchess@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (T. Chris Ess) writes:

> The only other musical experience that I know of that he had was playing
> drums at a very easrly Souxsie and the Banshees gig.
> 

Well, Sid actually played drums at early Joy Division gig!

Tumpa



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From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Subject: Re: Stone Roses
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:03:40 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <1992Oct1.122146.18121@unix.brighton.ac.uk> mm68@unix.brighton.ac.uk
(-- Dalamar --) writes:

>wongl@rs6006.ecs.rpi.edu (Lance) writes:
>> I heard that the Roses will have their new album out in the states soon
>> (its already out in Europe, i think).  Does anyone know a date that
>> it might come out on? All I know is that October is the month.
>> Keywords: 
>The Album you refer to is (I think) called Turned into Stone and is a 
>collection of remixes and stuff so I gather. The new album is not yet
>ready, but I understand that they are working on it as well as getting arrested 
>and other (probably not legal) activities.

You know, I like the STONE ROSES.  Loved listening to their stuff, but all
flap that they spew out in the press is making me sick.  Every other
article makes them out to be the next Beatles or Smiths, or whoever.  Then
there are the stories about the arrests and other things.  Then come the
stories that say "The album will be out in October..." followed by an
article later on that says "The album will be delayed due to internal
problems/arrests/legal stuff, etc....."
Am I the only one who is sick about this bullshit?  The Stone Roses, at
this rate, will never put out anything new, and if they ever do get their
act together, the material had better be phenomenally amazing.  With all
the hype and ass-kissing articles the press have written about them, it's
a wonder that anyone still cares.....
Frankly, I've reached my limit, and I just can't deal with them anymore....

Jack
jis@panix.com

PS:  I bet you anything the new album (not the compilation) will sound
like shit, but everyone will give it rave reviews just because it finally
came out.   Arrrrgghhhhhh.  It's sad for me to say this (because I really
loved the Stone Roses) but they are a prime example of a group being used
(or using?) the media to hype the image, and not deal with the substance....
From: wongl@rs6006.ecs.rpi.edu (Lance)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Stone Roses
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:44:54 GMT
Reply-To: wongl@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

I heard that the Roses will have their new album out in the states soon
(its already out in Europe, i think).  Does anyone know a date that
it might come out on? All I know is that October is the month.
Keywords: 
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From: 000998s@ace.acadiau.ca (KARL OVE SONNICHSEN)
Subject: Re: Enough of this PJ stuff
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:35:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.011350.11608@athena.cs.uga.edu> tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda) writes:
>From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
>Subject: Enough of this PJ stuff
>Date: 7 Oct 92 01:13:50 GMT
>PJ not breaking up? Too bad...But is that really alternative?  IMO Screaming
>Trees is much more preferable.  
>
>Besides, PJ is for PJ O'rourke, not a rock and roll and band.
>
>Ted Kalivoda

	Take this crap and stick it up your...

						Karl
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From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New BEL CANTO disc is out for those who like 4AD Style
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:32:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Who the hell said that Bel Canto's intentions were to sound like a 4AD
band ? By the way, what the hell is the 4AD sound ? Is it the Birthday
Party, the Cocteau Twins, Wolfgang Press, the Breeders, Bauhaus ?
Yes, all these bands at some time belonged to 4AD catalogue.

I think that Bel Canto have had since ever a distinct sound, and I have
no idea where the other poster got those ideas about Vangelis (????)
and the 4AD sound !

In rage,

Nuno
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From: gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N)
Subject: Re: Those d*mn commercials (Again!)
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:01:20 GMT

In article <Bv4z0t.Byz@acsu.buffalo.edu> v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson) writes:
>Ok, no one I know can name these tunes, so I turn to the
>deep well of knowledge stored out there somewhere. 
>
>In the Listerine "jungle" commercial, what's the song?
>I have a vague memory of hearing it way back (ca. 1982?)
>
>Any ideas?




A few people had mentioned that it was "Tarzan Boy".. and 
I was trying to recall who it was who sang it.. (I could
not for the life of me remember the name).

I know this thread is supposed to be dead by now.. but...
wasn't it Baltimora who sang it??  (It was weird.. the name
suddenly came back to me when I was humming the tune a few 
minutes ago)


-g.


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From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro)
Subject: "Name that Tune"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:42:11 GMT

     Can anybody help me with this? I've had a song stuck in my head for going 
on five weeks now (it's gotten very annoying).  I can remember neither title 
nor artist.  It's got a semi-grunge sound to it, kind of like Social Distortion
or maybe even Spin Doctors.
     All I can remember is the chorus, which contains the lines:
          "She's as sharp as a razor blade
           But she can cut my heart open just the same..."
     or something like that.
     Please help.  this song has had control of my mind for too long!

Disturbitas Vobiscum!
-kristoff
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From: folta@well.sf.ca.us (Stephen Folta)
Subject: Re: Any news on THE LOUD FAMILY? [Was: Game Theory Fans]
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:53:07 GMT


soren f petersen (speterse@peruvian.utah.edu):
> *Real Nighttime* was reissued on CD a couple years ago.  Unfortunately,
> this was right before Enigma went belly-up, and I don't believe that
> they're still any around.

Except that the reissue was done by Restless, so it's still in print.


Steve "still looking for a CD copy of Lolita Nation" Folta
folta@well.sf.ca.us
From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: About moshing......
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:21:52 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <1992Sep29.141420.28446@panix.com> jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:
>And the point about people picking people up.....
>Well, I was at a LUSH show (I don't considering them PIT music.  Does
>anybody here SLAM to "Thoughtforms"?) and this guy got knocked down, and
>nobody would help him.  They would just kick him like he was dirt.  I
>guess it has to do with that Fat-Boy mentallity all jocks have.  I mean,
>in their frats, they traumatize people daily (physically and mentally).  I
>guess to them, a slam pit is a fun night out to beat up the geeks and
>others who are into "weird" music.....

  I have to agree with what everyone has said. This particular paragraph 
made me reaslize how 'Clockwork Orange'ish this whole FratBoy mentality is.
-Dainel
-- 
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*	Daniel Ouellette       | 	 "People need to be schocked"	    *
*   douellet@beach.csulb.edu   |		     -Me	   	    *
Twosome*HumanDrama*JesusJones*KMFDM*LordsOfAcid*MLwtThrillKillKult*NitzerEbb*
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Subject: Seattle Lyrics
From: kmloy@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:55:40 EDT
Organization: Miami University, Hamilton campus

Just for your information guys, the lyrics to Ten by Pearl Jam you can get 
by dropping me a line.  The lyrics to Nirvana's stuff can be obtained either
from their previous label or in the case of Nevermind, from the Lithium
maxi-CD.  The lyrics for "Would" by Alice in Chains are included in their 
latest release Dirt.  "State of Love and Trust" was in the September issue of
Guitar for the Practicing Musician or you can get them from me.  I'm working
on getting the lyrics to the Westerberg tunes from the Replacements fan club,
but progress is very slow by that route.  If anyone has any of the other lyrics
from the "Singles" soundtrack, please let me know.  Just as reminder guys,
Kurt Cobain and Pearl Jam buried the hatchet, why can't we?



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