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From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat static!
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:19:34 GMT
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1993Jan4.183308.16517@oz.plymouth.edu>,
patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
|>I have a domestic long-haired cat that has amazing static during the
|>winter!  It wasn't a problem last year, so I suspect the carpet in my
|>new apartment is the culprit.
|>
|>Does anyone have suggestions for de-staticing my poor kitty?  She gets
|>a big shock whenever anyone touches her -- an audible CRACK! that can
|>be very disconcerting if she's giving "kitty kisses" with her nose!
|>
|>Thanks, all.
|>-- 
|>Patricia Martin Steward                      patstew@oz.plymouth.edu

My two cats are shorthairs, but they're both full of static as well. In 
fact, so am I, and I know it's because the air is so dry in my apartment.
I know if I can get rid of the dryness in the air, it'll help, but the way
our heating system works that's pretty tough.

I try to moisten it up whenever I can. We have hot-water radiators that
supply the heat, so whenever possible I'll hang my wet laundry over them.
It creates a bit of moisture as it dries, and I avoid using the dryer at
the same time. Another idea is leaving some water in the bathtub after a
shower; it gradually evaporates.

Actually, one thing I do try when petting them is this...each stroke of 
the cat picks up static on my hand. When I touch them again I give them
a shock (their little noses crunch up and they look so surprised!). I 
try to eliminate the shock by touching something else before petting 
them again. Pet the cat, touch something, pet the cat, touch something...
it's pretty annoying but it works!
              
Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated...

- Lianne -
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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: "Tossing cookies"
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:28:36 GMT



Throughout her 16-1/2 years, Abigail has had periodic episodes of
cookie tossing.  Some of these have lasted for months.  She often
throws up undigested food, but sometimes she just retches (lovely
noise in the middle of the night).  She seems perfectly healthy.  I
comb/brush her and Zarabeth often and give them both butter and
chicken fat to help their coats and their digestive tracts, so I don't
think it's hairballs.  I changed from Science Diet to Iams, but when
she's going through one of her barfing periods, nothing seems to help.
I asked my vet, and she said that some cats just throw up a lot.
*Sigh*

I realize that it's a pain cleaning it up, but it is not unusual for a
healthy cat to throw up a lot (I often refer to it as "recreational
barfing").  As Abigail can attest, it doesn't always affect their
health or their life spans.  If you do everything that people here
suggest and the cat keeps barfing, mention it to your vet and then
don't worry about it.  Some cats are just like that, and it will
probably pass.

--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: A love of running water?
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:20:08 GMT


All 3 of our cats love to drink out of the bathroom faucet.  What
is funny is that the oldest male learned how years ago, the newest
male learned right away when we got him, but the female only just
figure this out within the past 6 months!  Her brother has been
drinking this way for years!

Anyway, they will drink out of a bowl but they much prefer the
faucet.  We decided not to worry about it since we know if we
go away they will drink from the bowl.  Besides, its cute!
And our oldest male has had FUS twice so we encourage him to
drink water whenever he wants to.  Unless it really irritates
you I wouldn't worry about your cat.  You could keep the faucet
off for a while to make sure she will actually drink out of
the bowl if necessary, but if she does then she'll be fine if
you go out of town. 


Jamie

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From: karen@misty.boeing.com (Karen Robinson)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:43:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Fill Him Out Diet
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane BCS Support
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

The name of the high-calorie diet supplement is Nurti-Cal, available from
your vet.   Possibly also available from pet food stores.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Subject: Re: catflap troubles
Reply-To: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:52:57 GMT


In article <7112@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, morphet@cguhpa.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Helen Morphet) writes:
|>From: morphet@cguhpa.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Helen Morphet)
|>Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
|>Subject: catflap troubles
|>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 06:34:57 EST
|>Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
|>Lines: 9
|>
|>I have a big problem with our catflap, and if it's not resolved soon I shall have to block it up.
|>
|>My two cats, Etragon and Pootle, keep letting a large ginger tomcat come into our house through the catflap. This would not be a problem, except that it keeps spraying all over the place. I even found it in my bedroom once - it had sprayed over my bed.
|>
|>How do I prevent this without having to keep my cats inside all the time? I have heard about some 'selective' catflaps which only allow certain cats in, but how do they work, where could I get one from, and how much are they?
|>
|>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
|>
|>Helen
|>

	Helen,

	I think the catflaps (cat doors) that only let selected cats in work
	electronically by sensing something on the cat's collar.  That would
	certainly solve the problem but would be expensive no doubt.  Of
	course replacing items that have been sprayed gets expensive too.
	I have an old stuffed animal that was sprayed by an unneutered male
	cat over 10 years ago which still smells of it, even after wash
	after wash - Yuck!

	- Kathi
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mpmarie@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MARIE HUCOVSKY)
Subject: indoor/outdoor cats
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date:  7 Jan 1993 15:48 EST  

One other reason that I keep my cats indoor is because we live near a 
wooded area, probably full of wild animals.  Wild animals will kill and eat 
small cats and dogs if they can.  They are hungry and need to do what they 
must to survive.  It would be awfully sad to find only a piece of what used 
to be my "baby".  This is not B.S. either, I have a friend who lets her 
cats outside and this has happened twice to her.  This is not the only 
reason I keep them inside, but it's a good one.

Marie 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Edie Mae isn't trained
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:11:16 GMT

> Marguerite Yeutter writes:
> mistake.)  A couple days later, I bought a second catbox,
> which hasn't found favor with her either.  She poops
> in a catbox, but pees on rugs.  My whole house is carpeted,
> the basement is bare cement.  When I have nothing better
> to do, I try to get the smell out of the bedroom carpet.
> I've gridded mothballs in the other worse spots.  If I
> leave her in the bathroom (only uncarpeted room upstairs),
> she won't "go".  Or she finally does, I let her out
> and she goes again on the rug.


What about putting a piece of carpet in the litter box? When she starts using
that, you could try gradually adding litter until she will go when the entire
carpet is covered, then gradually cut the carpet smaller and smaller until
it's gone and only the litter remains. Do it gradually enough and she might
not even notice.



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: nmurray@cssc-melb.tansu.com.au (Nick Murray)
Subject: We've got our Maine Coon!
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:53:11 GMT

...and he's the Mainest Coon ever! My wife and I picked him up from
the breeder's two weeks ago. We were horrified at the size of this
four month old "kitten". He was as large as our other fully-grown cat,
Max.

He's a red cream in colour and is just beginning to develop the ruff
around his neck. We called him Tukk. (Or Tuck, as in 'Friar Tuck' from
the legend of Robin (the) Hood.)

To all those who responded to my request for information about the Maine
Coon breed, a heartfelt "thank-you"! They are truly beautiful cats, even
if they:

  1) Sleep on the pillow and suffocate you with *those tails* 
  2) Paddle in their water bowls
  3) Try to play with your existing cats and end up scaring the daylights
     out of them 
  4) Walk over to their saucer of cat biscuits and thump the edge, thus
     sending a shower of biscuits all over the kitchen floor 
  5) Steal lunches from backpacks
  6) Bat at everything that goes past when you're carrying them.

(Ah! to be back on the Net after all this time!)
From: cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: indoor/outdoor cats
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:24:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan7.222431.5239
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.


I live in an apt on a busy street so both my cats are strictly indoors
only.  The youngest one was a barn kitten when we got her so I thought
it might be a problem keeping her inside.  It was no problem.  She
loves the inside!  In fact she's now afraid of the outside!!  We can
leave the door wide open and she wont go near it!

cyndie
From: delisle@fornax.phy.ulaval.ca (Sonya Delisle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Homemade Cat Food
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:40:25 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval, Ste-Foy, Qc, Canada

In article <1993Jan7.081525.4911@memstvx1.memst.edu> nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.233439.18224@capalo.ingr.com>, joann@capalo.ingr.com (Joann Miller) writes:
>> Does anyone out there make their catfood?  I found some recipes
>> in a Cat Care Book which includes mashed vegetables, brewers
>> yeast, etc.  I followed the recipe for fish and my little dearies
>> stuck up their noses!  I also have a recipe for using liver,
>> poultry and beef products, such as heart but haven't tried them
>> yet.  I would be happy to share if anyone is interested.
>
>I cook for mine - and it's a decision I don't regret.  Some of my kitties
>seemed to be having a problem with food allergies (I suspected the color added
>to commercial cat food - and canned food is just too expensive for 7 cats).  So
>I started cooking for them.  The basic recipe is ground meat (I use turkey -
>you can use beef, chicken, NOT PORK), liver, rice, water, salt, cooking oil
>(just a little) and I add vitamins and a can of tuna (with the oil).  I also
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I read somewhere that tuna destroys vitamin E. This vitamin is important
for the fur of the cat, so tuna should never be fed to cats if you want
their coats to be glossy and soft. Don't know if it is true, though...

>chose to add greens (kale, collards, turnip).
>
>Nancy

I used to cook for mine too, and I will start again as soon as my new kitten is
old enough to eat adult food. The recipe I have finally settled on is the
following:
1 cup of chopped, FRESH raw poultry (usually chicken, but turkey will do)
1/3 cup of grated, raw carrot
1/3 cup of cooked rolled oats
1/3 cup of chopped, cooked chicken liver.
I add to each meal 1 teaspoon of a mixture which contains brewer's yeast
and other things I forget, and once a week I give vitamin tablets.
I split up the resulting mixture into 4 jars, and freeze 3
immediately. One jar will feed my cat about 2 days (she has a strong
appetite), and raw chicken can last that long when kept in the fridge.
I got this recipe from Anita Frazier' book, The New Natural Cat (or
something like that, it's at home, can't remember exactly). My two-
year-old female turtoise shell, Puce, really loves this. I know the kitten,
Boule, will love it too (he goes crazy when he smells chicken). The book
suggests lots of other ingredients but this is the combination they love
best.

==========================================================
Sonya Delisle           delisle@phy.ulaval.ca
==========================================================
Insert usual disclaimer here....
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: R1156C@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Dow)
Subject: Re: dry food,distilled water
Organization: Motorola
Date: 8 Jan 1993 09:12:22 MST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>Can I ask why you give your cats distilled water as compared to city water?
>Also what brand of cat food do you consider 'good' that you use?
>I have two cats, however the one (named Opus) has a problem with throwing
>up any food I give him.  Currently I have them on Iams canned food, which I
>have to admit I don't enjoy cleaning up.  If you or anybody has had this
>problem with their cats I'd appreciate an answer.  It doesn't seem as if he is
>scarfing all the time, and I've had every test done on him short of
>exploratory surgery.  Oh BTW, both of my cats are male and neutered.
>Thanks.
>Debbie
>

    My cats (Luka, Moneypenny (RIP), Vincent (RIP) and Midnight) ate IAMS
dry and, because they liked the flavor, Friskies canned (Only one flavor.)
Midnight didn't like the IAMS much, and threw up both types often.  My
other cats did pretty well on it and even grew somewhat fat.

    As I grew tired of finding half-digested piles of food on the rug and
hearing Midnight wretching in a corner somewhere, I decided to try a few
different foods.  The one I finally found that *ALL* my cats liked is called
'Prominence' (liver flavor) from the Amway corp., of all places.  It is a
high-quality dry food.  Now my cats won't touch anything else, and all are
looking much healthier (better coats, etc) and Midnight doesn't throw up
anymore.

    I don't use distilled water, but I do give them filtered water only.
Hell, if *I* won't drink the city water, why should my cats? :-)

-Michael R. Dow
R1156C@WACCVM.corp.mot.com
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: declawing?
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:42:52 GMT
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <1993Jan4.132057.4847@memstvx1.memst.edu> nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>
>Speaking of Desmond Morris, one of his programs about feline behaviour was on
>PBS and there was a barnyard full of mother kitties and their babies.  
>He explained how toms will kill
>kittens who were not fathered by him--and then they showed the DEAD KITTENS.
>Good grief - what did they do - sit and watch this tom cat kill the kittens. 

Possibly. Given that this was a reasonably independent barnyard community,
they may have decided not to interfere - much like wildlife photographers
don't interfere with their subjects.

It's also possible that, some time after they filmed the kittens, they came
back and found the tom had killed them, and decided to make use of it.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Help needed with stinky stools
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:11:54 GMT

A cat I'm taking care of for a while has just had a little diarrhea and  
 
it's stools are beginning to solidify, however each stool is *incredibly* stinky.  The stool is so stinky that my wife and I remove it immediately from the litter box and throw it away in a dumpster outside.

Is there any way to get the cat's stools to be less stinky?  Will this stinkiness go away or is it a permanent  
 
problem?  Any food recommendations for non-stinky stools (that also work on aide a recovering diarrhea male cat)?

Thanks,
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
hrow it away in a dumpster outside.

Is there any way to get the cat's stools to be less stinky?  Will this stinkiness go away or is it a permanent 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: srscnslt@telesciences.com (SRS Consultant)
Subject: Re: Fungus Amoungus
Organization: TeleSciences CO Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:06:39 GMT

In article <1iqk1gINNkrs@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> cstss@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Thom Strohecker) writes:
>Help Please!!!!
> 	My Himmy has developed a fungal infection.  He is fighting the
>treatments which include daily baths and medication.  We had to shave
>him and now his hair is coming back a different color.  What is worse is
>that now one of my other cats and my dog now have the infection.  I am
>pulling my hair out with this.  He won't take his pills (when my husband
>can catch him to give them) he ends up foaming them out of his throat.
>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>


	With regard to getting pills into your cat, I've found that rolling it
	up in a little ball of cream cheese usually does the job.  Now, of
	course, I'm sure I won't be the only participant in the 'how do you get
	your cat to take pills' sweepstakes, but this method has worked for me
	on some twelve cats through the years.

		Mitch
-- 
Mitch Gorman		srscnslt@telesciences.com	emrys@cellar.org
"You can tell he's doing well by the look in inhuman eyes,
	Better not compromise -
		It won't be easy!"
From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: declawing?
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4

In article <BzztF1.A2r@SSD.intel.com>, pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit) writes:
|> 
|> The endlessness of the debates is
|> due to the difficulty of proving/disproving these assumptions.

No, the endlessness of *this* debate is that everyone insists on posting
just *one* more comment.  Yes, I know I just did that as well.  I'm hoping
that some of the ardent debators will start to see that this debate has
out lived its usefulness.

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
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From: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Homemade Cat Food
Reply-To: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:42:52 GMT


In article <1993Jan6.233439.18224@capalo.ingr.com>, joann@capalo.ingr.com (Joann Miller) writes:
|>Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
|>From: joann@capalo.ingr.com (Joann Miller)
|>Subject: Homemade Cat Food
|>Organization: Intergraph, Palo Alto, CA
|>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:34:39 EST
|>Lines: 6
|>
|>Does anyone out there make their catfood?  I found some recipes
|>in a Cat Care Book which includes mashed vegetables, brewers
|>yeast, etc.  I followed the recipe for fish and my little dearies
|>stuck up their noses!  I also have a recipe for using liver, 
|>poultry and beef products, such as heart but haven't tried them
|>yet.  I would be happy to share if anyone is interested.
|>

	I used to make catfood daily for my 3 cats.  I think I even used
	the same book.  The food was made of some protien (fish, liver, etc)
	and grain, plus a combination of brewers yeast and bone meal and
	vitamins and an oil combination using cod liver oil and something
	else which escapes my memory at the moment.

	My cats were reluctant at first to eat the new food but soon enough
	warmed up to the tuna and oats combination.  They also liked the
	liver and oats combo.  They usually got oats or millet for the grain
	and tuna most often.  They refused to eat food made with tofu.

	I did this routinely for a number of months, probably about 6 mos.
	The cats were healthy, energetic, and normal.  I didn't see any
	improvement nor degradation in thier health or well being from the
	homemade food.  It did make me feel good to feed them food that I
	knew was pure and uncontaminated.  I am quite health concious with
	regard to what I eat so it made sense to be just as concerned about
	my cats.

	I stopped making catfood when I moved in with my SO about 2 years
	ago.  The cats are just as happy and healthy.

	- Kathi
From: lilley@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Shannon Lilley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Early Wake Up Calls
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:02:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1993Jan8.100509.1@stsci.edu> lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:
>I have had cats for a 100 years, so you'd think at some time I'd learn.
>
>The story:
>I free choice feed my guys, so I haven't run into the problem you describe. As
>a matter of fact my guys are like stones in the morning and I have to thread
>my way out from under covers, sheets, and warm 100lb cat bodies.
>
>However, the large cat food bowl runs out sometimes before its weekly refill.
>When this occurs (but I am as yet aware), I get followed, purred at, jumped on,
>brushed, talked to, stared at intently (at eye level from the rim of the
>bathroom sink whilst I am 'en toilet'), batted, pawed, bitten, and murowed at.
>I ALWAYS misinterpret these sign of affection as signs of affection for me;
>I congratulate myself on being such a wonderful person that my cats are in
>love with me.
>
>Silly me.
>
>At some point, I check the bowl and realize it is empty and it is the food 
>not me, they love and are missing that is causing such displays.
>
>When they bowl is refilled, everyone eats, some throw up (depending on how
>long they have gone without food, poor darlings, and must gorge), and then
>saunter off to fall asleep somewhere.
>
>I become again just that big cat who lives with us in this house and can be
>randomly ignored.
>
>So, how does relate to your question?
>
>IT'S THE FOOD DEAR... Somehow, put even more time between when they eat and
>when you get up - disconnect the two events completely.

Absolutely! Pack their little,or in mine's case big, bellies at night before
you go to bed and in the morning they'll give you an indignant look when you
wake THEM up.

Shannon
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