HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:27:05 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <C17LxL.BA7@rice.edu> amitp@owlnet.rice.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.160446.25054@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, gchalk@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Chalk) writes:
>|> I would like to remind everybody that is complaning that there might be
>|> (and most likely will be) a charge for the upgrade to OS/2 2.1
>|> that yesterday (1/19/93) IBM declared 4th quarted\r losses of
>|> over $5,000,000,000.00.....yup thats % billion dollars for
>
>I read somewhere that this is the biggest loss any company has ever
>had in a quarter...   :(

This is misleading.  Personal systems (makers of PS/n's, and OS/2) has
turned a significant profit, and is HIRING new employees.  Let's not
lump the mainframe division (and other groups) losses in with the
rest, OK?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 05:56:34 GMT

In article <C16Hpr.7Io@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler) writes:
>I have OS/2 1.0 and 1.0 and need to get 1.3 for a product that I support. I called IBM and
>was quoted $99 for Standard Edition upgrade and $240 for Extended Edition upgrade.

Sorry to hear that. Had you taken advantage of all of their upgrade
offers 1.0 -> 1.1 -> 1.2 -> 1.3, then it would have been free. They do
have dealines after all. If I remember right, the deadline for 1.2 ->
1.3 for free was in September 1991.

TTYL - Steve



-- 
Steve Lumos - slumos@cs.unlv.edu  | Call the Las Vegas PC Users Group
<hillarious quote of your choice> | OS/2 SIG BBS: 702/434-5535
From: RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at (FLATSCHER Rony)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Lotus: Some 32bit apps about to be released ...
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:52:12 GMT
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria

According to infos from Lotus people over here, Lotus 1-2-3 and
Freelance in 32bit versions for OS/2 will be released commercially
within the next three to four weeks.

It seems that AmiPro will follow later on as it is just about to enter
beta.

---rony
From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Mathematica for OS/2 exists!??
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:09:07 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:

]An OS/2 version of Mathematica has not been announced.  Anything you
]might hear about an OS/2 version is not official.  Don't believe
]anything that is not official.  This isn't to say that one _won't_ be
]announced (I don't know if one will or not); it's just to say that one
]has not yet been announced.

]Ben Cox (trust me on this)
]thoth@uiuc.edu

It HAS been stated by WRI, in a number of telephone calls by me and by
others to WRI, that they are working on an OS2 full WPS version. Are you saying
that they are backtracking on this, or that a release has not yet been
announced?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson)
Subject: remind 3.00.01 upload
Organization: Auburn University, Alabama
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:18:18 GMT

ftp-os2.nmsu.edu upload information

 Program: remind 3.00.01 by David Skoll
 Description: sophisticated reminder (and calendar) text-mode program
 Source: comp.sources.misc and David Skoll

 Proposed directory: os2/all/miscutils/


Notes:
1. There are OS/2 16-bit, bound OS/2 and MSDOS, and 32-bit emx-compiled
versions included. The 32-bit versions are untested under MSDOS. The 32-bit
versions require the emxdev.zip archive from pub/os2/2.0/programming/.

2. Perhaps a link needs to be created in os2/2.0/miscutils/ since 
OS/2 2.x versions are included.

3. .01 contains a new postscript-calendar feature. For additional changes,
see the WHATSNEW file.

--
Darrel Hankerson hankedr@mail.auburn.edu
24 January 1993
From: ct@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (fac chris tomer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Procomm Plus for Windows
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:16:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I am interested in finding out how ProComm Plus for Windows performs
running on top of OS/2, version 2.0 or 2.1 beta. I would appreciate
information and/or advice.

          **********************************************************
          *  Chris Tomer                                           *
          *  School of Library and Information Science             *
          *  University of Pittsburgh                              *
          *  135 North Bellefield                                  *
          *  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15260                        *
          *  Telephone:  412-624-9448                              *
          *  FAX:        412-624-5231                              *
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          *                      ct@coltrane.lis.pitt.edu          *
          **********************************************************
From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Commercial comm programs for OS/2
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:59:05 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

>I do not want "everything" without paying for anything.  I do expect a
>comm program to manage 9600 baud transfers w/o bringing a 386-class
>machine to its knees.   When m2zmodem is in use, my system is basically
>unusuable for ANY other task.  Under the default high priority setting
>(for 9600 baud+ transfers) the word "basically" doesn't even apply.
>TE/2 uses the same COM.SYS that m2zmodem uses and manages not to bring
>my machine to a crawl.  If TE/2 didn't crash occasionally with COM1
>not available messages and had better zmodem error recovery, we
>wouldn't be having this discussion.  For the record, my machine has a
>16450 UART.

What type of 386 machine are you talking about?  SX/DX ?? Mhz?  I still
think your demands are higher than your willingness to pay for what you
want.  On my PS/2 L40SX (20 Mhx 386/SX) ANY COM-program running at
9600 bauds continously will put the machine into a crawl.  To demand
that you with this type of computer should be able to do a lot of other
things concurrently is to demand too much.

Why do you think you can't find any program that suits your demands?
TE/2 crashes, M2Zmodem puts everything to a crawl and so on.  I wish
you all the luck in your search (you will need it)...  BTW if you 
register TE/2 you will get improved zmodem error recovery.

And for the record.  There is no difference between a 8250 and 16450
type of UART that has any significance in this case. Neither of them
are buffered and their function are identical.

Mikael Wahlgren
From: joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: W4W and the 2.1 beta..? font menu
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:23:03 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.184609.9157@colorado.edu> doug@shako.Colorado.EDU (Doug McKnight) writes:
>>I find that word for windows under the new 2.1b has no fonts visible in its
>>font pull down menu. The menu is visible, it is just empty. The fonts are
>>
>>Any hints??

>The LJIII printer driver is broken. Install the LJIIP driver instead, and this
>should solve your problem (it worked for me)

Broken? Hardly, since it works fine with my system!!!

Christian







-- 
M. Christian Holmgreen / joker@diku.dk / mochmch@uts.uni-c.dk
M.Sc. student, University of Copenhagen, Dept. of Computer Science
"Human errors can only be avoided if one can avoid the use of humans"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 24 Jan 93 06:39:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA

In article <1993Jan20.183710.9714@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:

>>>32 bit hpfs as well).  2.0 was just an interim release as far as I was 
>>>concerned.  After 2.1 (if it has everything as promised) I would expect to
>>>pay for upgrades.  The reason I, personally, expect  a free upgrade is 
>>>because I will be getting just what I was promised I would get.

>>Who promised you these things?

I was at the IBM rollout of OS/2 in New York, and several of the
IBM'ers there, from the top man on down, (you know who), told me
that any upgrades released during the first year would all be free
to current users of OS/2, primarily they adopted this policy since
some of the pieces were not all in place yet.
This they claimed was unlike Microsoft that always kept you coming
back for more. Frankly, this was very reassuring. I hope it was not
mere hype and puffery. It was certainly intended to sell the
product and clearly told to many attendees. I would be severely
dissappointed if IBM was not as good as its word.

I would like to hear from any IBM'ers monitoring this news group.
-- 
***************************************************************************
	Henry Manaster          *     EMail: manaster@yu1.yu.edu
	Brooklyn, NY            *
                                *
	Disclaimer: The above is not necessarily MY opinion nor that 
				of anyone else :-)  ????!
****************************************************************************
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ai26500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Prince Ali-A-BooBoo )
Subject: os2 SLIP driver
Summary: SLIP driver for OS/2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:15:09 GMT
Keywords: SLIP driver for OS/2

Hello,
	I've been trying to get my SLIP(serial line IP) connection up and 
running under DOS and I'd like to try to get it running under OS/2.
Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for OS/2??
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all.
Asanee
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Program to make disk images?
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:26:26 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <halverso.728078767@staff.tc.umn.edu> halverso@staff.tc.umn.edu (Chris Halverson) writes:
>Does anyone know of an OS/2 utility that _makes_ disk images? I've
>found one that's a DOS program, but it doesn't work too well under
>OS/2. At least for me, I haven't fiddled around with the settings yet,
>but the 2 times I tried to make an image it hung the machine after I
>switched from a DOS full screen session to the Desktop. If anybody
>knows about such a program could you please let me know.

IBM's utility (the companion to LOADDSKF) has not been released to the
outside world.  However, there are at least three OS/2 diskette to
file utilities.  Try Diskette Express, for example.  It is available
via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu -- check file /pub/os2/00Index
for location.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | READ the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0i, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Post to ONE newsgroup only AFTER reading the List.]
From: lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Describe 4.0 + 2.1 Beta = Reinstall
Date: 23 Jan 1993 13:05 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hi, Folks!

	I reformatted my Boot partition and installed the 2.1 Beta.
Everything is working fine , except that when I tried to run Describe
it told me that I needed to reinstall.  

	When I installed  it, I had noticed that it had placed a file in the
c:\os2 directory, dwp.dat, but didn't think anything of it.  Reinstalling 
Describe's Macro support recreated this file, so it runs now.


 	So, Developers, the Moral is:

		 KEEP YOUR #!*& FILES IN THEIR OWN SUBDIRECTORIES!!

Pardon my shouting, but it's important.;-)

Cheers!
LISA
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: 2.1b won't run winos/2 (os2gdi.exe not fou
Date: 24 Jan 93 09:43:58 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

young@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Norm Young) writes:
>In article 727766803@rintintin.Colorado.EDU, smithgr@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Gregory P. Smith) writes:
>> I just installed OS/2 2.1b over my 2.0 GA installation and can't get it to
>> run winos/2.  I did use selective install to reinstall dos/winos/2 files, but
>> now it starts to load and flashes (very quickly) before exiting "os2gdi.exe"
>> not found" or something like that.  I checked the drive and it's right, there
>> isn't an os2gdi file..  How can I get it to work?  I'm using a 486/33 16megs,
>> 50meg HPFS partition for boot, SpeedSTAR 24x SVGA (running in 640x480x256 mode
>> [not fun to get a decent svgadata.pmi file for it...]).  Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Greg

>I've experienced exactly the same problem.

>I even went through the pain of doing the installation a second time thinking
>that the os2gdi.exe may have just been corrupted or missed by the install.

>No luck.

>I'm running an ATI Graphics Ultra in 8514 mode.

If no-one else has pointed this out yet, just re-name gdi.exe to
os2gdi.exe. I believe this one is a known install glitch. 
-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-8693
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.apps:10613 comp.os.os2.misc:43747
From: duchow@galaxy.ucr.edu (John Duchowski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SyTos 1.36 under OS/2 2.0
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:07:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Organization: University of California, Riverside

Hello,

   I have just purchased the Sytos Plus 1.36 for OS/2 2.0 to be used with the
Jumbo 250 system.  The system has previously functioned flawlessly under DOS
but I can't get it to work under OS/2 2.0 + Sytos combination. I had partial
success using CP Backup 7.1 but the backups took a very long time and were
frequently unreliable.

   I called both Sytos and Colorado earlier today but I wasn't really given
any solutions other than "you have to figure out what your floppy address and
interrupt levels are".  Well, I used a default installation procedure which
installed the appropriate driver in the CONFIG.SYS of which I am informed
during the boot up process.  The software has set itself up to function with
DMA set to 2, IRQ to 6 and address of 3F0 h which are the specified default
values listed in the manual.

   Using PC Tools System Info 7.1 utility, I obtained the following
information about the floppy disk: IRQ of 6 and address of F000:EF57. Keeping
the address set to 3F0 h I checked *all* of the other DMA channels and *all*
of the other IRQs listed in the Set Up Backup Device window at which point I
have ran out of ideas :(

   My system is Micronics i486 EISA, 33 MHz, OS/2 2.0 with Service Pak, Jumbo
250, and what looks like a cheap Taiwanese floppy/hard disk controller which
however thus far gave me no problems whatsoever. I would really appreciate it,
if someone could tell me how to get this up and running as I am really
dependent on this device.

   Thank you for your time and assistance in this matter.

John Duchowski
From: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 23 Jan 1993 06:44:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
NNTP-Posting-Host: flubber.cc.utexas.edu

According to ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester):
>	2.IBM PROMISED THAT IT WOULD GIVE 2.1 TO ALL 2.0 USERS FOR
>	FREE! LET ME REPEAT THAT:

(stupid ASCII art deleted)

>Thats right, FREE! GRATIS! NO CHARGE!! NO COST!!! THEY PROMISED
>THIS! I don't give a fuck if this is a good deal for IBM or not, I
>don't give a damn if this was a smart move on their part. The god
>damn bottom line for all you thick headed morons who seem completely
>incapable of understanding even the most fundamental concepts of
>offer and acceptance, is that IBM PROMISED TO GIVE IT TO ALL 2.0
>USERS FOR FREE! PERIOD! END OF DISCUSSION!!

Would you get off of it!  Sheesh!  IBM never said OS/2 v2.1 would be free.
NEVER!  JAMAIS!  NUNCA!  NIE!

Your license doesn't say this, John Soyring never said this, Lee Reiswig
never said this, IBM NEVER SAID THIS!

You cannot guarantee that IBM's past practices will be indicative of
anything they will do in the future.

Stop calling me and everyone else out here who claim otherwise "thick
headed morons."  You're filling that role better than anyone else right
now.

>					The Jester

Just show me anything from IBM that says 2.1 will be free.  A press
release, a post on this newsgroup, some text files on
software.watson.ibm.com, etc.  So far as I know, you can't do it.
-- 
John Bodnar                          : Friends don't let friends use Windows!
The University of Texas at Austin    : 
Internet: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu : OS/2 and Rush Limbaugh!  Succeeding
UUCP: ....!cs.utexas!ut-ccwf!jbodnar : despite the media's best efforts!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: roland@margaret (David A. Braun)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:58:18 GMT

In article <timiller.727229446@vincent1.iastate.edu> timiller@iastate.edu  
(Timothy I Miller) writes:
> In <1993Jan15.142426.17492@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU>  
jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin) writes:
> 
> >In article <1993Jan15.233019.13207@waikato.ac.nz> harvey@waikato.ac.nz  
writes:
> >>I was speaking to a loacl IBM person today about the upcoming 2.1 release.  
I
> >>was told not to expect it before start of march.
> >>
> >>I then asked about cost. I was told and this person wasn't entirely sure  
but
> >>did know that IBM wants to provide the upgrade for free (media only) (same  
as 
> >>for 1.0-1.1-1.2-1.3), but due to legal action by Microsoft, (They charged  
for
> >>people to go from 3.0 to 3.1 so don't want IBM to give it away), there will
> >>probably be a small charge to line BILL's pockets.
> >>
> >>It will be avaiable electronically, if they can persuade BILL that he  
already
> >>has enough money, and as a full shrink wrap on disk and CD.
> 
> 
>      It seems to me that if a person already owns Windows 3.1, we should only  
have to show proof of license, and then get the upgrade free.  I mean come on,  
how many licenses do we need for a program we're trying to avoid?!
>     

Ditto, I've got a real copy of Win 3.1 (AARGHH...) And I certainly don't want  
to buy another copy... I think that Bill just wants another liscence to add to  
the # of copies of Windows sold... I wonder just how many of those copies, like  
mine, just sit around or are formatted for the disks.

<roland>
From: jme4@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Ehrlinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Running Mathematica
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:47:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jme4@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Ehrlinger)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


	A few days ago, I posted a question about printing from Mathematica
in OS/2.  Although I have not recieved any replies to this question, a few
people have asked how to run Mathematica in the first place.

	First off, I am running the following system:

	486/33
	8 M ram
	100 M free HPFS disk space 

	And the following software versions:

	Mathematica V2.1 for MS-Dos
	OS/2 V2.0 GA + SP

	- Installed under an OS/2 DOS window using the 
	  given installation program.
	- Either create a program object from the templates
	  folder pointing to math.bat or work directly on math.bat
	- Open the settings notebook for the object
	- Click on "Sessions" tab
	- Click on the "DOS settings" button
 	- Set "DPMI_DOS_API" to "ENABLED"
	- Set "DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT" to something >= 20 
	  (I set mine to 100.  Why not?)
	- You may also want to set "DOS_FILES" to 40 or 50.

	These settings worked for me.  If you are running 640 x 480 16color
video drivers, graphics will run in a window.  Otherwise you must run the
graphics full screen.  The text sessions will run in either a window or
full screen.

	I hope this helps.  If anyone has been able to print from within
Mathematica I would appreciate knowing how it was accomplished.  I have
tried using the same settings for hardcopy.bat and the other executable
files with no luck.

	--John Ehrlinger
From: halverso@staff.tc.umn.edu (Chris Halverson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: TE/2 and SupraFax v.32 bis modem
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:23:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: staff.halverso.728000607
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota

Does anyone know what configuration file to include from modems.zip
for a SupraFax v.32bis modem. It's a 14.4 modem. I can dial, and
almost connect, but it doesn't recognize the connection and times out.
It just sits there in the dialing box until I cancel it. I don't know
too much about modems and init strings, etc., so any help would be
appreciated. Alternately, if someone's already got this working, could
you send me a copy? I'll summarize if needed. Thanks. 
--
Chris Halverson        halverso@staff.tc.umn.edu 
Windows is, at best, a priggish, effeminate interface modeled
after the sissified Macintosh operating system interface. 
				 -John C. Dvorak
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Borland C++, Lotus 123, Freelance Graphics ....
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:08:39 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (BRIAN PAUL VAN LIEU) writes:

> >So there will be no Telix for OS/2 as long as Borland fails to produce
> >an OS/2 Pascal.
> 
>     Well, as I mentioned a while back: keep bugging Tim Del Chairo. If enough
>     people write too him, something is bound to happen.

Um . . . who is he, where do we write to him, and why?

-- 
Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   | "Much to our dismay, the C compiler
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    | does not read the manuals."
**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        | Libes & Ressler, *Life with UNIX*
From: onstotc@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Fungus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Dual Boot
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:40:07 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

I just installed the 2.1 beta.  I used the dual boot option to boot dos off 
c:  Unfortunately, my os2 info is not accessable under DOS. What command do I 
use to make it boot back into os2?   Any help would be appreciated.


P.S.  I was impressed with what I saw!!

-- 
| Curt Onstott                     |  Help!!  I've fallen and I can't   |
| Oregon State University  (USA)   |  get up!!!   Raaalphppph!!         |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:53:31 GMT

In article <9195@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes:
[some deleted]
>
>	2.IBM PROMISED THAT IT WOULD GIVE 2.1 TO ALL 2.0 USERS FOR
>	FREE! LET ME REPEAT THAT:
>
[more deleted]
   Where and when did they promise this?  I still haven't seen an answer to
this question.  I can't find anything about "We promise we'll give you OS/2
2.1 for free" in my 2.0 box.  If it was in a press release of some kind, will
someone please post it here?
   Head and Shoulders recently came up with a "new and improved" version of
their product, but when I called them on the phone saying I had bought the
previous version and wanted a free upgrade, they just laughed at me. :) :) :)