HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vadik@cs.umd.edu (Vadim Maslov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Automatic Russian -> English, that is KOI-8 -> ASCII translator
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:19:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Hi, netters

Since a lot of people started to read RELCOM news, and not all of them have
russian fonts, I post here program to convert KOI-8 russian text (which is
coming from RELCOM) to ASCII transliteration.

It's free, it comes without warranty, and it consists of C program
and shell script.

Examples of use:

RtoL *.c		-- translate all C files

rtol <NewsFile | more   -- view translation of file NewsFile

Vadim Maslov.
-----------------------------------------
#
# Shell script RtoL
#
for i in $* ; do
echo --- $i ---
rtol <$i >_
mv _ $i
done
-----------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>

/*
 * C program: rtol
 * Russian to Ebglish translator
 */

char *rtol[] = {
"yu", "a",  "b", "c",  "d", "e",   "f",  "g",
"h",  "i",  "i", "k",  "l", "m",   "n",  "o",
"p",  "ya", "r", "s",  "t", "u",   "zh", "v",
"'",  "y",  "z", "sh", "e", "sch", "ch", "`"
};

char *RtoL[] = {
"YU", "A",  "B", "C",  "D", "E",   "F",  "G",
"H",  "I",  "I", "K",  "L", "M",   "N",  "O",
"P",  "YA", "R", "S",  "T", "U",   "ZH", "V",
"'",  "Y",  "Z", "SH", "E", "SCH", "CH", "`"
};

main() {
  int c;
  while((c=getchar())!=EOF) {
    if(c>=0x80+'@' && c<=0x80+'_') {
      printf(rtol[c-0x80-'@']);
    } else if(c>=0x80+'`' && c<=0x80+0x7f) {
      printf(RtoL[c-0x80-'`']);
    } else {
      putchar(c);
    }
  }
}



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Vadim Maslov,	Phones: (301) 405-2726, (301) 474-3473
From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: SOVOK => CHAYNIK (New ? terminology)
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:23:10 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft
X-Disclaimer: I speak for myself only unless explicitly indicated otherwise

avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
>As for emigres -- the applying the term "sovok" is usually meant to
>state their inability to accept different culture and lifestyle.
>Applicable to most (but fortunately not all) of ex-Soviet immigrants.

Let's not get into the "more assimilated than thou" debate.  Different people 
assimilate into different societies, with more differences bewteen these
societies themselves than between them and Soviet orthodoxy.
-- 
"... i heard the droning / in the shrine
	     of the sea-monkey / palace of the brine ..." -- Pixies.
Oleg Kiselev                                             oleg@veritas.com
VERITAS Software                           ...!{apple|uunet}!veritas!oleg
From: CBECKER@ndsuvm1.bitnet (Corinne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: (none)
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:46:36 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Ohh, pleeezze.
From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: RE: are we a bit paranoid ?
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:44:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wePNtru00VB=AA3kpE
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


The answer is YES, but so is almost everyone else.

-arun gupta
ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu
From: WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: are we a bit paranoid?
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:32:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

assalam-0-alaikum,

i have been wondering about a question for a long time and i thought
i'd share it with you folks on the netland, especially ofcourse to
the afghans on the net.  perhaps you could shed more light into this.

the question is whether we afghans are a bit paranoid when it comes to
problems of our country.  now i am not saying that this is a problem
just with us afghans but for the purpose of this discussion let's
focus on our case.

we all know that our country is and has been going through some very
difficult times.  i'm sure if we look at our history with a longer
view of time we can see that peace and relative quiteness have not
been the norm of our society.  most of the time our people have been
at war either by choice (when we were going after others) or out of
necessity when we were attacked by various nations/groups.  then there
are the times that we have been fighting each other for various reasons,
as we are today (i am ashamed to say it).  it is this latter case
that i am curious about.  i have heard most of us blame the war of
brother against brother as somehow the result of a conspiracy of
foreign nations.  it is true that some of the foreign nations have an
inherent interest in seeing afghanistan to have a certain type of
government and policy as these coutries perceive to be in their
national interest.  this ofcourse is very natural for them.  many
other nations have pursued such polcies, including our governments in
the past.  but to blame our problems on these countries is to hide
from the truth and consequently from the solutions.  i think we afghans
are a bit paranoid when we blame foreign nations for every problem that
pops up in our backyard.  it is very easy for us to makeup conspiracy
theories about how some country is controlling some groups and thus
the events in our country.  this however, is not going to solve any
problems.   this ofcourse is just an idea.  i am sure that
foreign conspiracies and interventions occur in our internal affairs,
but i think the questions is to what level.  i hope that we can
debate this issue in this forum, and perhaps we can educate each other
with our ideas without getting into bashing groups and countries.

ba ehteram,
walid
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: CFV: alt.us.visas
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:35:21 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

How about creating a group called alt.us.visas.  By the addition of this 
group we could help folks mostly interested in visa information from any 
country to get that information easily.  A FAQ will also be helpful. 
This will moderate many of the soc groups. 


**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Headline News about Iran, J..
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:21:44 GMT
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> 2. AFGHANISTAN TV BANS WOMEN FROM NEWSCASTS IN 
>A BOW TO MUJAHEDIN

AND A BLOW TO WOMEN.


Utterly disgusted,
arun gupta
ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu
From: onf@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (omar.farooq)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: ISLAM ON ABORTION
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:27:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Since I am not an erudite Islamic scholar, I was wondering if someone
had any facts, quotes, or knowledge about Islam'c position towards
abortion.  I have heard from many people that according to Muhammad(PBUH), 
abortion was allowed by the third month of pregnancy(latest), since the
soul of child was not formed yet.

Thanx in advance!
E-mail me directly or post it for others' interest as well.

Omar
omar.farooq@att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.iranian
From: lhermi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Subject: re: HEADLINE NEWS...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:18:23 GMT


Subject: Re: HEADLINE NEWS

 I guess she killed her self because "western fundamentalists" failed to 
impose their ways of lives on afghan people it is well founded that 
christian missionaries use tragedies in the muslim world to try to infiltrate
their creed but halas their work is in vain, the worst they  can do is buy a 
few souls with money,
Abdul Latif "Al-afghani"     



Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: goodlife.gif: INFO
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:25:51 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

(This is from 1930, please don't flame me)

"The kubbet el sakhra"

Or the Dome of the Rock, which was built by the Arabs in the 7th century
is commonly but incorrectly referred to as the Mosque of Omar.
Mohammedans believe that here the souls of sinners will be weighed on
Judgment Day.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
Subject: Re: A question
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:56:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.155520.2673@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:

>Some people argue that by uniting Lebanon to Syria things in Syria 
>are going to improve, while in fact things in Lebanon will go worse, 
>and Lebanon would become like Syria.

  The problem with uniting Syria and Lebanon is that the Lebanese do not
like the way Syria is governed. We should remeber however that, there never
was a country called Lebanon until the French carved it out of Syria. This
is of course an action taken by a colonial power, as a result it has no
legitimacy. If we accept this action, we are in effect accepting colonial
rule whose aim was never to help us, but to divide us in order to be able
to maximize its profits.

  The fact remains, however, that Lebanon is today an independent country and
it is up to the Lebanese to decide if they want to unite with Syria. The
Lebanese do not have anything against Syria per se, I am sure many Lebanese
look at unity as a source of prosperity and strength; what they mind is
suffering the fate of their Syrian bretherens. They realize how oppressed
the Syrians are and they want something better for themselves.

  It would be much easier to reunite Syria and Lebanon if Syria was the kind
of country to which the Lebanese wanted to belong: a free country that
respects the rights of all its citizens, minorities or not; a country which
does not discourage trade, travel, or news reporting. The Lebanese know that
they are too small to transform a reunited Syria and if they could they
know from Hama what their fate could be.

  If you favour Lebanese-Syrian unity, which I do, then don't expect it
to happen with Hafez Al-Assad in power. The Lebanese will only accept
rejoining Syria when they know that their lives, properties and rights will
be respected, and in that, I strongly support them.


Regards,

Mazen Mokhtar
From: elie@konark.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: More bozos evicted.
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:09:31 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


Army troops backed by tanks ousted private Druze militia from three
public instellations and historic sites. This caused angry outbursts 
by high-level Druze Cabinet minister whose private army had
controlled the sites.
Minister of State Walid Jumblat, vowed to boycott the meetings of
Prime Minister Rashid Solh cabinet until the Lebanese army withdraws from:
1. the National Library in Baakline
2. the Beit el Dine palace
3. Mir Amin palace

Joumblatt is main shareholder of Tourister Co., which spent millions
of dollars to restore the palaces built during the Ottoman era and
turned it into a five star hotel. (Mir Amin palace)
Joumblatt said the palace contains "valuable antiquities, including 
a special wing showing special belongings" (of his father Kamal 
Joumblatt)

---

Lebanese army also evicted Hezbollah groups from Baalbeck.
500 Lebanese soldiers backed by 15 tanks 20 trucks and 8 jeeps
took control of the Sheikh Abdallah barracks.
Hezbollah gunmen on the streets holding their RPGs shouted:
"Death to Israel"
"We are with the army, if the army is with the Islamic Resistance 
against Israel"
Hezbollah evacuated its weaponry to various positions in the Bekaa.

---
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: A question
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:55:20 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


Why does Arab unity have to start with Lebanon ? (For Hani)
Why does Islamic unity have to start with Lebanon, start with Pakistan
    or Saudi Arabia or Iran. At least the population there is more 
    homogeneous.
                                                            (For Ahmad)

If we are to take the EEC, an elite group of European nations got together,
then other countries wanted to join in. Let the elite Arabs do the same.
It does not take armies.

Some people argue that by uniting Lebanon to Syria things in Syria 
are going to improve, while in fact things in Lebanon will go worse, 
and Lebanon would become like Syria.
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Unconfirmed news.
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:46:38 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


It seems the army stormed the LF HQ and kicked Geagea out.

Elie.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad)
Subject: Re: grandliban.gif:  INFO
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:40:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.154922.26098@news.clarkson.edu> saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh) writes:

[Anwar writes]

    I am for a Lebanese leader who will annex Syria.
    Or a Syrian Leader who would annex Lebanon. I am for any leader who
    would tear these borders down. I would not mind Bashir Gmayyel ruling
    both Lebanon and Syria and many more. Leaders come and go, with borders
    comes hate. 

    How much Americans are proud of America? It was Goerge Washington  
    who fought to make the Union. Imagine 50 independent states. 
    Americans are very diverse, came from different cultures and made  
    one country. Why not Syria and Lebanon? Syria, Lebanon and Iraq and
    so on. a Chinese, Irish, African, Spanish, Italian, Russian could   
    melt in one pot in the USA. 

   Anwar Saleh



Anwar,

  While your ideal is commendable, I do wonder whether the current
application of it is in line of what Washington did.

  There are two ways in which you can bring people together: one by
concensus and recognition of mutual interest, another by imposition
and censorship. As long as such a process is done against the will of
the people it is bound to fail. If not now, tomorow and if not tomorow
the day after.

 As with the concept of "melting pot" which seems to be the apanage of
the United States, I am not at all convinced that it constitutes an
ideal democratic binding of people. Somewhat, that same idea of
"melting" is reminiscent of Hell where all differences are erased, and
where uniformity rules.

 I much prefere a grass-root approach where the people do not feel
threatened, come together sensing that unity is far better than
ostracy. Unfortunatly these conditions are not met in the Middle-East
where dictatorship, obsucrantism and torture seems to be the most
advocated values by the ruling classes.

 Until we get a truly humanitarian Middle-East there is not sense in
talking about unity, or rather, let's talk about it like a dear friend
who immigrated for lack of freedom.

naji.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: medawar@prism.poly.edu (Bassem Medawar)
Subject: Re: European Parliament and the Lebanese legislative elections
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:54:37 GMT

In article <27JUL199223145239@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu> csc_alex@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alex Khalil) writes:
[..]
>Is there an address [ e-mail or other ], we/I could answer this resolution.
>
>How about a common message?

I suggest that we package european parliament resolution in a letter addressed
to the UN/White-house/state-dept/..  enticing them to do the same.

I can supply the mailing addresses.

bassem

>
>I expect a feedback from you, fellow Netters: Hani, ElieM, ElieW, Anwar, Bassil,
>Christine, Boudi, AliA, AliJ, Naji, Bassem, Wassim, and each and everyone of 
>you who feel concerned.
>
>Scl or e-mail, your answers are welcome. I will post back e-mail if need be.
>
>>Bassem
>>
>
>Alex Khalil
>csc_alex@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu
>U. of Houston-Downtown
From: elie@sensors.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: European Parliament and the Lebanese legislative elections
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:14:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <bwV-37_@engin.umich.edu> hani@gilaman.engin.umich.edu (Hani Abinassif) writes:
>
...........................  There a shared destiny, common culture, and
>famlial relations between Lebanon and many Arab states.

Anyone see Star Wars ? 
"Do not resist the dark force young Jedi, this is your destiny".

...
>A people with no dream, can not build a nation.  Especially when cosmic
>objectives are measured by the insignificance of individual economic 
>prosperity.  

Yep this guy is Darth Vader all right. He's quite cosmic all right.

Bassem, advice (as Mr. Spock would put it): "There is no sign of 
intelligent lifeform here"

Regards, Elie.

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From: jrad@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (ahmad.m.jrad)
Subject: Re: jokes
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:23:33 GMT

<words deleted>

>    With all due respect to Naji, I think that we ought to make a
>    distinction a between the Syrian people and their government. I
>    think that the Syrians are brothers with the Lebanese on the people
>    level. The cultures are very much related and the land was all
>    called Sham until quite recently. 
> 
>    Besides All Muslims are brothers regardless of national origin. Though
>    I may be making an assumption here about the religion of our Syrian
>    brother.
> 
>    Ahmad
> 
> 
> As you may have noticed, I did explicitly state that the Syrian people
> are suffering under the current regime. Yet, one should not overlook
> the military presence of Syria in Lebanon. Any one can call any one
> else a "brother" on s.c.l. That is a given. Yet, one should not impose
> such a title on those who did not voice their opinion. It may be the
> case that calling us all "brothers" is an expression of friendship and
> enthousiam, a sign of openess and a desire to share. This is
> commendable. Yet, all to often in the past did the Syrian regime use
> these words while imposing their will on that of the Lebanese. I may
> have been too sensitive to the use of that word by Jaber, and my
> reaction my tone harder than what the net deserves. In such a case, I
> apologize to Jaber and to any one else who felt offended by my words.
> 
> As with "bilad al sham", it may be worthwhile to recall that such a
> denomination was given by the ruling class in Damascus and was not
> voluntarily shared by a number of Lebanese, particularly those who
> lived in the mountains.
> 
> As such, I would not use such a term without carefully waighing its
> significance in light of the recent events in Lebanon.
> 
> Words are words until they are marred in blood. They then become tools
> for war or for peace.
> 
> naji.

Your point is well taken Naji. Lebanon has suffered greatly at the
hands of the Syrian rulers and their agents, and most people have
suffered on an individual level from tortures and barbarious acts
and so on. Yet I have known some Syrian people in the past and they
were some of the nicest people I have met. (it was a shock for me,
after all Homsi jokes would have us believe that Syrians are sooooo
stupid).

Given all this, I would cosider the Syrians to be brothers and consider
that we are all now in the same boat and have the same problem more
or less.

We are all brothers as Ron reminded us in his email, so why don't
we work at building bridges rather than burning them.

Ahmad
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Brotherhood, why not ?.
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:50:51 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I don't know about you, but my Syrian relatives prefer to live in 
Lebanon than to live in Syria. As a matter of fact when the Syrian
army came in early 70s, the first thing on many of the soldiers minds
was how to secure a Lebanese passport... (note that a lot of the soldiers
sent by Syria in early 70s were Christians :-))

So before you talk about brotherhood, you can start by cleaning up
your own country.
From: nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad)
Subject: Lebanon and Syria: once and for all...
Organization: University of Waterloo
	<1992Jul28.192621.5874@ulrik.uio.no> <KhV-07A@engin.umich.edu>
	<1992Jul29.192457.11631@prism.poly.edu> <bwV-37_@engin.umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:51:05 GMT


Let it be said once and for all: no historical facts, no engraved
writing, no orders from the heavens of Time, no thunder from the
rulers will force us to accept what we refuse.

Syria is today a country ruled by a blood-thirsty regime. This regime
has times and times again subdued, diminished, humiliated, tortured
and killed all those who opposes it. This regime had done nothing than
destroying once a flourishing country, a stable economy and a
promising land. I am refering to Syria.

Any one, any one who stand up today, for a reunification with Syria is
implicitly or explicitly in support of the government of Damascus. If
he is ignorant, let him think twice, it not, let the blood of the
victims of this government be on his hand as it is on the hands of
Assad.

Once and for all: unity is brought in peace and joy. Not in bombs and
violence. Any Lebanese who loves Lebanon, any Syrian who loves Syria
would postpone the unity issue until Syria has recovered its dignity
and its freedom. 

If you don't feel like respecting the living, bear some respect for
the dead.

naji.
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