From: winfred@lawlab_2.vill.edu (Winfred Harrelson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Whats Mario's excuse this time?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:40:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Villanova University Law School

In article <182704@pyramid.pyramid.com> paulg@pyramid.COM (Paul Griffiths) 
writes:>In article <BrnzCv.nC@acsu.buffalo.edu>, fleck@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (
richard j fleck) writes:>|> What is it with Mario and the rear of other 
drivers cars?>|> 
>|> Other wise not a bad race.  I thought it was over for
>|> Rahal when M. Jr came cranking up on him leaving the pits.
>|> It's good to see that the son does't always follow exactly
>|> in his fathers footsteps.
>|> 
>|> Later
>|> Rich Fleck
>|> --

>       It was mentioned early on in the race how much the Toronto
>track had the look and feel of Long Beach.  The race certainly had
>some aspects very similiar to LB.

>       Long Beach: Mario slams into the back of Cheever, and takes
>                   Cheever and himself out of the race...followed
>                   by Andretti ranting.

>Apparently though Mario, learns his lessons well...

>       Toronto:  Mario slams into the back of Lil Al, but THIS time
>                  is able to continue.

>(Was it me or did the corner where this incident took place, look a lot
> like Turn 1 at Long Beach?)

>       There's always bitches (for me) when ABC covers the race...two
>things which did piss me off, and probaly show who I like or don't like
>in INDY.

>       How quick the booth hosebags were to jump to Mario's defense
>after he smashed into the back of Al.  Vomiting buzz words such as
>"brake fade" "trying to initiate the pass" "shutting the door"...
>Give me a break...Mario screwed up (again) and unfortunately it was
>Al who took the fall.

I have been watching cart races for years and I can not remember a single
race in which nobody took out another driver.  There is always someone
who crashes or just makes a slight mistake and takes out at least one 
other person.  In '90 wasn't it Little Al who was constantly doing the
same thing to other drivers?  Back then his uncle Bobby was always comming
to his defense and everything was a "racing incedent" until Al and Emmo
came together at Indy.  Anyway the point is that it happens to everybody
and some people more than once in a season.  This does not mean that
Mario should give up racing just yet and he is still not the oldest
driver out there.

Also, it looked to me like BOTH drivers were braking late and had missed
the turn in.  I don't think Al could have made the turn even if he had not
been hit.  He probably saw Mario and thought that he would also brake late
to keep from being passed but could not make the turn in himself.  I tapped
the race and I will have to remember to watch that part again tonight just
to make sure about that.  Anyone else tape it too?

>       How little coverage was given to Al's race back to the front..
>after being knocked back to Gawd knows where he finished the race 6th...
>I realize he didn't win it...but what a valiant drive..IMHO.

Even more so considering how much problems he has been having with his
car lately.

>(while I'm at it...;) 
>       I'd love to see what would have happened if it had been Bobby who'd
>pulled that pit move on Micheal... We'd never hear the end of it...  

We have not heard the end of this one on this news group.  There are still
messages on it and probably will be until the next race when everyone will
have more things to bitch and moan about.

>As much as I hate to admit it though, I'd have probaly done the same 
thing..  ;)
>                               -PaulG

If you were driving down the highway at ~65mph and someone stopped on the
side of the road pulled out in front of you would you slam on your brakes
and curse the idiot or would you swerve into a clear lane and curse the 
idiot?  I would swerve into a clear lane and curse and probably everyone
complained about Micheal would have done the same thing!  I am not saying
that Bobby is an idiot because he could not have possibly seen Micheal but
his crew probably did and sent him out at that time because they knew
Micheal was comming.

I am new to this group and this is my first post so please don't go too
nuts with the flamming.

Winfred