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From: x98943@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: QUESTIONS : bootp & novell
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:56:47 GMT
Organization: Phillip Institute of Tech, Melbourne

In article <swessels.711750450@rkw-risc>, swessels@rkw-risc.cs.up.ac.za (Stefan Wessels) writes:
> I don't know novell but we have the following problem:
> We'd like students to be able to log in from labs onto our UNIX machine.  
> These workstations automatically boot from a novell file server.
> 
> Can you run bootp on novell and have it assign IP's to the workstations for
> logging onto the UNIX machines?  I saw that TRUMPET uses bootp instead of an
> IP address.  If I've got the whole bootp thing all wrong, please also let me 
> know.
>
  You cant run a BOOTP SERVER ( or not that I know of ) on novell, but if 
your running a V3.11 Novell server you can run a bootp forwarder on the 
server. Its an NLM utility, I think its called BOOTPFWD.NLM ( correct me if
i'm wrong ), and it should be available from Simtel, among other places.
( Check your archie server !! )

Essentialy, it forwards a bootp request ( and replies ) for IP addresses, 
among other things, from the PC to a Bootp Server running somewhere else, 
like a Sun Workstation for example as is in my case!

I use BOOTP mainly for NCSA Telnet and Popmail/PC and it all works extreamly
well for me !

Also, if you intend to try this you have to have TCP/IP routing implemented
on your Novell Server if you haven't already !
 
-- 
Brian Habel
Computer Systems Programmer
Dept. Mathematics and Computing
RMIT ( Bundoora Campus )
Bundoora 3083   Victoria
Australia

Email: brian@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.network,comp.sys.novell
From: schli@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schlickenrieder)
Subject: Re: Including OS/2 in a small work-group
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:46:34 GMT


orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich) writes:

> I don't consider Novell Regular 2.xx or 3.xx to be reasonable cost --
> what I want is a simple inexpensive peer-to-peer network that 8086
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^
                                                                ^^^^^
> and 80286 processor nodes can participate in.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      ^^^^^

	Are you sure you *mean* this?!?

	Amazed...

	...Wolfram
From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell utilities for Windows
Keywords: Windows, Novell
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:09:10 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Jul23.173757.9871@spectrum.xerox.com> christie@rx.xerox.com writes:
>Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but I checked the FAQ list posted today and
>there no mention of this question.
>
>Are there any novell utilities for Windows ? The FAQ lists a number of FTP
>sites for novell stuff, but I have not got the time to search each site
>until I find some.

Where can I get the FAQ?  Thanks!
-- 
Bill Cheng // UCLA Computer Science Department // (310) 575-4507
3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
william@CS.UCLA.EDU      ...!{uunet|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!william
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: lee@lonex.rl.af.mil (Lee Ritter)
Subject: SOFTWARE TRAINING F/NETWARE 3.11 WANTED
Organization: RL
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:40:15 GMT

Are there any FTP sites where I can get a software program that will provide
some training on Novell Netware 3.11. I have seen numerous tutors for DBASE,
MSDOS etc. How about a tutor for Netware that you run off of your PC. Any
leads will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Lee
From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Accessing server utilization on a client...
Keywords: processor utilization, IPX, SPX, NLM, VAP
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:39:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Originator: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu

(My first posting never show up, trying again...)

Hi,
	I'm new to Novell, so these may be trivial questions.  Please
point me to the right document if the answer to my question is already
documented somewhere.

	I'm interested in obtaining Novell server statistics from a
386/486 PC client.  The kind of statistics I'm interested is the
detailed processor utilization information provided by the 'MONITOR -P'
command for NetWare 3.x.  So here are my questions.

1) Is the processor utilization information obtainable through some API
   calls or PC interrupts?
2) If the information can be obtained through API calls, do the calls have
   to be executed on the server, or can I call them on a client?
3) If I can only call those on the server, should I implement an agent
   as an NLM, a VAP, or is there a better way?
4) The agent can collect serer statistics and listen to an IPX/SPX socket
   to talk to my program on the client side, also talking IPX/SPX.  Would
   this work (since IPX/SPX is supposed to be pier-to-pier).
5) Am I going about this all wrong?  Is there a better way of obtaining
   the server statistics on a workstation?
6) Is there a package out there (shareware/freeware/commercial) already
   doing this so I don't have to go through the pain?
--
Bill Cheng // UCLA Computer Science Department // (310) 575-4507
3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
william@CS.UCLA.EDU      ...!{uunet|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!william
-- 
Bill Cheng // UCLA Computer Science Department // (310) 575-4507
3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
william@CS.UCLA.EDU      ...!{uunet|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!william
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Networking Saga (Please read last paragraph if nothing else)
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:43:50 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul22.025512.840@raid.dell.com>, mmaster@parnasus.dell.com (Michael Masterson) writes:
> jrd@cc.usu.edu writes:
> 
>>	Please do find a chance to read up, and afterward I recommend
>>ditching the old Novell 802.3 frames for Ethernet_II frames.
> 
> How's that again?  802.3 frames are an international standard, Enet_II
> predates that... 802.3 frames are what the IEEE said are the standard,
> whereas Enet_II was a de-facto standard.  Perhaps I misunderstood your
> reference to "old".
> --
> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of any other person,
> your mileage may vary, call before digging, best if eaten by date on package,
> not valid with any other offer, void where prohibited, taxed, or regulated.
> Michael Masterson                          mmaster@parnasus.dell.com
------------
Michael,
	We are both correct. The Novell Ethernet_802.3 frames are arranged so 
that by today's standards they look like 802.2 SNAP interiors with the DSAP and 
SSAP interior fields of all 1's, meaning broadcasts. That upsets some machines 
receiving them, and it can upset older NW 2.x servers receiving anything else. 
The Novell 802.3 frame predate the IEEE standard. While the IEEE 802.3 
committee tried valiantly, DEC et all still carry the day with what Novell 
calls Ethernet_II (aka Blue Book, aka regular Ethernet, TYPE'd, whatever) 
frames. Novell now refers to their Ethernet_802.3 as "raw Ethernet" frames.
So to avoid NW traffic from showing up as "broadcasts" in 802.2 decoders avoid 
Ethernet_802.3.
	Joe D.
From: dillman@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas Dillman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: novell terminal program
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,
	A co-worker of mine is looking for a terminal program that
can comunicate over a novell network.  We would like any sugestions you
may have, of particular interest are PD or Shareware solutions.  
Please E-Mail your response.

				Thanx
					Thomas J. Dillman
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: request for help on IP routing
Keywords: IP routing netware 3.11
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:15:35 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Jul22.010249.134757@zeus.calpoly.edu> kwang@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kevin Wang aka The Scarecrow) writes:
>KEY NOTE:  the current version of tcpip.nlm with forward=yes
>option turned on will NOT allow you to access the rest of the world.
>the tcpip.nlm will NOT route between two subnets that match under the
>mask, therefore if you have two cards in the server with the addresses as:
>129.65.43.5 and 129.65.43.2, with the mask ff.ff.ff.00, you 
>will NOT be able to forward ip packets between the two network cards
>(say you wanted to telnet from your local machine to uunet.com...

While this statement is true, i'd go on to say that *no* version of
tcpip.nlm, or any other IP routing code by any other company for the
matter, will ever "route" between "two subnets that match under the
mask".  That's because "two subnets that match under the mask" aren't
two subnets at all: they are, by definition, the same subnet.  It is,
a priori, impossible to "route between" a single subnet.

As Mr. Brown has previously pointed out, the given configuration is
simply invalid.  It is *not*, as Mr. Wang implies, valid but not
currently supported.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: How to know what NetWare patches are out there?
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:39:19 -0500

Is there a well-maintained, complete list of patches against each recent
version of NetWare, that one can FTP or receive by e-mail?
-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead Analyst/Programmer    +1 317 274 0749   [@disclaimer@]
Internet:  IMHW400@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU     BITNET:  IMHW400@INDYVAX
Celebrate freedom:  read a banned newsgroup.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: cpetersn@iastate.edu (Clifton R Peterson)
Subject: Print Problem
Summary: Problem printing from windows through Novell to HP LS IIIP
Keywords: Print Problem HPLSIIIP Novell Windows
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:15:34 GMT

I have a system running NOvell 2.2 with the workstations on DOS 5.0.  Connected
to the server is an HP LaserJet IIIP.  A standard type of queue is set up
for the laser jet.  This combo prints fine for most applications running on
DOS.  It does not print properly for stuff printed out of Windows 3.0.  The
system has the most recent drive for Windows 3.0 and the HP series III laser
jets.

Has anyone run into this type of scenario or have suggestions as to what the
problem might be?  

TIA  Clif

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: wjh0265@tamsun.tamu.edu (William Hobson)
Subject: Harvard Graphics Ver. 3 and ATPS printing
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:57:39 GMT

Thanks to all who replied to my query about ATPS printing from DOS -
WordPerfect wasn't sending a Postscript showpage at the end of the job
because the 'Supress form feed' option was set to yes.  Now I have problems
with Harvard Graphics 3 - it prints the job and then kicks out an 'Postscript
Error: undefined.'  I tried defining a print job with Byte Stream to no
avail.  Anybody have a clue as to what I might be doing wrong?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:21:35 GMT

In article <920727172315@cream.ftp.com> jbvb@ftp.com writes:
>Let's say that a buggy ODI driver got released by Generic NetCards Inc.
>Novell isn't any more likely to get a Novell engineer to work fixing the
>problem than Microsoft, IBM or FTP Software would for their favorite
>driver spec.  The warranty and support comes from the driver
>author/owner.

Well, i can't disagree because i don't know how likely that is for
Microsoft, IBM, or FTP, but i do know that Novell's reputation stands
behind every certified ODI driver.  Novell would certainly go to a lot
of effort to get a buggy driver fixed.  That effort might possibly
include allocating a software or hardware engineer to the job,
although that typically wouldn't be necessary.

And, as i'm sure you know, Novell has a cooperative support program
which tends to make Novell the first line of support for most third
party ODI drivers.  Not all support comes from the driver owner.

Geezy, i'm being hounded into a position where i'm starting to sound
like a missionary....
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Utility to create GROUPs under NetWare 3.11
From: baird2@lincoln.ac.nz
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:56:30 +1200
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell

>In article <l6rapcINN3uu@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, blackmon@cs.utk.edu (Matthew L. Blackmon) writes:
> We all know and love dumpuser and makeuser, but is there a
> steenkin' utility to create groups from the command line?

use anonymous ftp to get group.zip from ono.lincoln.ac.nz. It contains 3
group management utilities - grpaddu, grpdelu and grplist. grpaddu will
optionally create the group e.g.

grpaddu /c students harry barry larry

will create group students if it doesn't already exist, and add users harry, 
barry and larry as members of group students. Run each utility without any 
parameters for driving instructions.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson)
Subject: Re: No NWPOPUP in Win3.1?
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:25:29 GMT

Make sure you are using NWPOPUP that came with Windows 3.11.  I had a user
who had the same problem, after checking the obvious, it turned out that 
NWPOPUP was the version from Windows 3.0 and did not work properly with
Windows 3.11.  

-- 
__________________________________________________________
Ken Isacson         
kji@vpnet.chi.il.us    
__________________________________________________________
From: overberger@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Problem with trustee rights in 3.11
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:58:51 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Jul21.210834.1099@odie.incom.de>, tom@incom.de (Thomas Staudte) writes:
> In article <rz10010.10.0@rzaix315.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>  
> rz10010@rzaix315.rrz.uni-hamburg.de (Monika Schwarzbach) writes:
>> >I have encoutered a interesting problem when assigning trustee rights  
> on
>> >a 3.11 server. Here's the picture: I have a directory, say F:\APPS that 
>> >I give RF rights via SYSCON to the group EVERYONE. Now, in that  
> directory.....stuff deleted.
> 
> I technically agree. However, the 'problem' with inhertied rights mask is  
> that hey don't show up at a ......stuff deleted.


Wasn't there a new version of SYSCON available somewhere that took care of the
'Trustee rights with no rights' problem ??? Where ???

The other item related to this topic is the inability to prevent a user
from creating a subdirectory in a directory where he has file
create privs.  It appears that subdirectories are treated like files. Seems
to me we used to be able to accomplish this in older revs of Netware.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: NetWare Tools UserList connection display uses tiny font
Organization: Indiana University
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:50:16 -0500

I have NetWare Tools for Windows version 1.01.  When I use UserList the
connection display uses an extremely small, almost unreadable font, and
things don't line up in the right columns (too small, squished to left).
I installed NetWare Tools for someone else here on a Gateway 2000 machine
and their UserList connection display appears normal (at least the font
size seems right, since everything lines up in the right columns).  Anybody
have any idea what I'm doing wrong, or is there any way to correct this
problem?  My hardware is an IBM PS/2 55SX w/8515 display.  Software is
IBM PC-DOS 5.0, MS Windows 3.1, NetWare drivers from DOSUP5 update, NetWare
Tools from the WINUP6 update.

--
James Harvey    IUPUI OIT Technical Support/Networks
harvey@iupui.edu  uucp: iugate!harvey  bitnet: harvey@indyvax
From: sowings@ocf.berkeley.edu (Sanford Owings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.dcom.lans.novell
Subject: Re: Novell to TCP/IP bridges or gateways?
Date: 23 Jul 1992 17:56:03 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu
Summary: I stand corrected.

In article <92205.083025RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:
>Of course there are public domain solutions. Anyone at all familiar with
>this and other novell newsgroups can hardly fail to be aware that people
>are running NCSA Telnet on machines connected to Novell servers.

I stand corrected.  As I write this, however, I am sitting at my terminal
using LAN Workplace for DOS (Novell Product) to telnet to a Unix host 
news server.  As my experience is limited with TCP/IP products, (LWP and
WINTCP for DOS), I was not aware of the NCSA software.  Thanks for enlarging
my knowledge pool.

No worries! *8)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
From: Torge.Schmidt@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Torge Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Problem: 1542B 3.11 32MB
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:37:20 GMT

Torge.Schmidt@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Torge Schmidt) writes:


>email. His address is 100021,3142@compuserve.com.
                             ^
Heck. The right one is: 100021.3142@compuserve.com.
                              ^
-- 
Torge

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:37:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.132642.27926@eds1.eds.com> jdm1@eds1.eds.com (Jonathan D McCown) writes:
>nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
[Unattributed quote: -drp]
>>   Couldn't Novell make one available ? I am sure it would be worth their
>>   money to have a "supported" packet driver interface!

What a concept!  A supported interface to unsupported drivers.  Why's
everyone so worried about whether or not the IPX implementation comes
from Novell when the drivers aren't controlled by Novell?

>>Politically unacceptable.  They've lined up all their ducks behind ODI.

As hard as this is to grasp, in my experience at Novell, i've never
seen the company do *anything* for political reasons.  If there was
money to be made by supporting packet drivers, i assure you that
Novell would be right in there doing it.

>On the other hand, if this is indeed Novell's position (responses welcome)
>it will be factored in with other grievances_with/shortcomings_of their
>product.  I am not a devout Novellist, and for us Netware was the least
>of several evils.  At some point if the harrassment of using a product exceeds
>reasonability _we_will_change_products_.

Funny you should mention it.  I don't really know why Novell as a
company decided not to support packet drivers, but if i were making
the decision for the company, i'd probably decide against it precisely
because, over all, supporting packet drivers would tend to *decrease*
the usability of the product.  In other words, in my personal opinion,
Novell would *lose* more customers if it fully supported packet
drivers than it will by continuing on its current course of
concentrating on ODI to the exclusion of packet drivers.  Although
those of you that know and love packet drivers would be pleased with
packet driver support, in my opinion the overall perception of the
quality of Novell's products would decrease.

As usual, i must make it clear that i am *not* involved in Novell's
LAN driver development and i am not speaking for Novell in this matter.

						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Adriene@YaleADS (Adriene Nazaretian)
Subject: NWMAC 3.011 setup
Organization: Distributed Computing Services
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:44:42 GMT

Help!  got the new novell mac nlm and like what I see so far, but am 	
having a problem.		

Setup:

ATPS.CFG:

"printer1:zone1" -o "q 1"           
"printer2:zone1" -o "q 2" -h -do


printer 1 is an LPS40 high speed printer which works fine.
printer 2 is an apple personal lw.  
I was trying this with a lw plus and switched printers because
I thought there was a problem with the old rom.

The -h successfully hides it from zone1,
 -do sucessfully puts everything in the queue as an operator hold state.

When I selelct the printer from a mac in the chooser using the Netware zone
and selecting "q 2" it goes to the print queue in hold state.  When I release
it, It eventually comes back with "Returned Bad dictionary Status: flushing
rest of job.

Strangely enough, PC's on the novell can print fine.  I just cant get
anything printed from the macs?  (I just did a window print)

Please ANY HELP AT ALL, I'll take any suggestions.  Email to me and I'll 
summarize to the world.

So how hard could it be getting a laserwriter to accept mac and pc output
using these queues.  

TIA
Adriene@yaleads.bitnet
Adriene@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: veregin@humboldt.kent.edu (Howard Veregin)
Subject: Monitoring printer use
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:30:10 GMT

I'm looking for a utility that would allow me to monitor use of our
network laser printer, so that we can determine which users are being
resource hogs.  We have a fairly small network of about 20 DOS machines
attached to an HP 9000 server running HP-UX 8.05.  We are running NetWare
v 3.01B distributed by Innovus.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Howard Veregin
Dept of Geography
Kent State University

veregin@humboldt.kent.edu
From: paul@ooc.uva.nl (Paul Jongsma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: multiple IDE controllers in FS
Keywords: ide
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:35:41 GMT
Organization: Center for Innovation and Cooperative Technology, University of Amsterdam

Hi,
 
Has anyone experience with adding a second IDE controller in a fileserver (3.11). We did some experiments but although the idedisk.dsk driver recognises the
second controller Netware is unable to make a partition on the third drive. 
 
All tips are welcome. 
Thanks,
Paul.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell