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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:15:00 CDT
From:         "Phil Gerdes K-State Univ." <PHILG@KSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: corperationphobia

From:  AHMED@DAYTON.BITNET >
>I don't get the joke about the Amway distributorship...don't know much
>about Amway......

Why am I not surprised you don't know about Amway!  Before I start I
will explain Amway to the best of my knowledge.  I have been to a couple
of meetings and looked at it.  It is not for me, but it is working for
thousands of other people.  Amway says if you are making $12,000 a year
and want a better life, then join Amway and it will make you rich.  You
can work parttime and make thousands of dollars a month.  If you really
want to find out about Amway, talk to a few people that work with you
Iam sure an Amway distributor will make contact with you.  You will
be stepping into the real world when you attend one of their meetings.

In a nutshell, you sell soap and other household products to friends
and strangers.  If you want to make a lot of money you ask these
friends and strangers to also sell the products.  Everyone you sign
up must buy their supplies from you and you make money.  You make
money from the sweat of others.  It also helps if you have talent and
personality and a way of working with others.


>I am also not a democrat or an independent or a republican....most of
>them are playing a game....

The problem I see is you *think* they are playing a game, but they are
very serious about their game.  There are rules to follow, maybe you
don't like their rules?  Sorry, if that is the case, but every culture
has rules to play by.  My wife didn't join a party either.  She doesn't
want to vote a streight party ticket.  What my wife and you don't
understand, is all the politics are played during the primary.  The
primary picks the people the general public votes for or against.  If
you don't like the canidates then join a party and talk your neighbors
into voting for what goes into the party's plateform.  If noone agrees
with what you are saying then your ideas will not be used.

>I also see no problem with a manager making a $100,000 to a workers $20,000.
>I do see a problem with a manager making $3,000,000.00 to a workers $20,000
>and then when the manager screws up, the worker and his taxes pay to bail out
>the company!!!!

If the manager has the power and makes changes that earn the company
$millions of dollars then he should NOT be paid for his effort?  Why not?


>Did you hear that we just sold a huge contract...McDonnel Douglas....and
>Italy is buying a few dozen Harier jets from us...  I wonder who they need
>protection from and whether its a because we helped elect that Gov't....

I thought the Harrier jump jet was produced in England, and maybe they
want the jet because the jet satisfies a need, not very exciting I
know, but most likly true.

>First Chrysler stockholders and their Board is stacked.... second, they
>do not care for the workers that work for them...If their stock earnings

What do you mean by stacked?  The stockholders vote on who is a member
of the board and other important things.  If you mean stacked because
the stockholders wanted those people and policys in place then yes
it's stacked.  If I had a lot of stock in a company I would vote to
increase dividends and for anything that keep the company strong.


>The problem is that in a corporate democracy...and this is where Iaccoca and
>others excel....the government can be manipulated.  You get tax breaks (here
>in Ohio, the threat of closing a plant got huge breakthroughs in taxes as Ohio
>agreed to lower it to nothing to keep them here)  and you get Gov't to
>pressure other countries to keep imports down...  You pressure the government t
 >  delay fuel efficiency
>requirements and so on.....

When there is a company in your town that means they have workers and
those workers vote.  If the company was going to pickup and go somewhere
else, and all it would take is for the local government to do something
for them to say, and they DIDN'T do it, and the workers lost their jobs.
Do you think those workers might be a little unhappy with their local
government?  Or do the think the workers will say good government we
showed those corperate people, now were is my next paycheck comeing from?


-Phil--------------PHILG@KSUVM----------"Phir Milengay."-------------
"You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.  You cannot
help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.  You cannot
help the poor by destroying the rich.  You cannot help men permanently
by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves."
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