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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Examining .cpt and .sit files
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 09:01:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

        I posted a query a short while ago about a utility for Unix which
would give a directory listing of .cpt and .sit files--i.e., after converting
the .hqx files, I sometimes want to see what's in the binary files before
downloading them.

        Macunpack does something like that but rather more:  it unsits or
uncpts the file and creates a directory for it, etc.  So it does, sort of, do
what I want.  It's available in the

macify-13.shar

package on sumex in the /info-mac/unix directory.  It's a big package, 
requiring a fair amount of manipulation simply to extract this one little 
program.

        So there's what I found out, but what I'd *really* like is an ls
command that would disclose the interior mysteries of .sit and .cpt files.


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		   "I swear I never heard the first shot"
                Wm. Gibson, "Agrippa:  a book of the dead"
From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: New PowerPoint?
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:06:59 GMT
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article 19338@drutx.ATT.COM, mcp@drutx.ATT.COM (Mike Paugh) writes:
> 
> Has Microsoft announced an upgrade to PowerPoint (for the Mac)
> yet?  I have heard rumors of one since about June and a picture 
> in the latest MacWeek makes me believe that it may have been 
> announced at MacWorld.  If it is not yet available, does anyone 
> know the release date?
> 
> Mike Paugh                Reading departure signs in some big airport
> AT&T Bell Labs            Reminds me of the places I've been.
> Denver                      -- Jimmy Buffett --


Will the new version of PowerPoint for the Mac have an equation editor (finally!)?
When I called Microsoft back in early April, they said that the new PowerPoint
with an equation editor would be released for the (ugh!) Windows market first. :-(
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Gann Matsuda)
Subject: Re: * America On-Line vs. Prodigy vs. Genie...which one??
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:42:19 PDT

In article <aland.713648165@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, on 12 Aug 1992 19:36:05 GMT,
aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) writes:

>AOL lets you do almost anything without having to memorize keywords.
>You can configure the software to do it.  This software is the lowest
>common denominator.  They can set the system up to do whatever they
>want, knowing it won't break anyone's terminal program.  CI$ can't.
>They are limited to supporting TTY &/or VT100 for the most part,
>unless people spend an additional $10 - $80 for CIM or Navigator.

Well, from what I've seen, that's true.  I refuse to use CI$ because it
is too expensive.  I've been on GEnie for five years now and I've
stuck with it, despite the lack of a GUI front-end/navigator.

The biggest problem with AOL is that their software is cleverly
designed to be easy to use, but also to KEEP you online, spending
your $$.  Version 2.0 is a little better in this regard than 1.0,
however.  But at least AOL can say they have a decent front-end.

Gann Matsuda
Games Sysop
GEnie Macintosh User's Group Roundtable
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: HELP--Erasing invisible aliases
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:57:59 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

Here's a problem that may stump quite a few people, but...

One day, I FTP'ed some GIF files from wuarchive.wustl.edu onto our UNIX
server. Then, using TCP Connect, I FTP'ed them over to my local host (IIsi).
Using Giffer, I tried to look at them, but couldn't find them (a problem
which I later solved--have to open with cmd-opt-O, not just cmd-O), so I
deleted them. A week later, I'm using ResEdit and notice that in this directory
these GIF files have returned. Puzzled, I go to Finder and discover that
they're not there. Using "Get Info" in ResEdit, I discover that they've become
invisible, with creator types made out of unreadable characters (squares).
So I make them visible and erase them. All except for one. A "Get Info" on
this file elicits, "This alias cannot be opened because its file cannot be
found" (or something like that). So the question, how can I get rid of it?
Any takers? Thanks in advance

Howard
hcheng@auspex.com

"Sir, there is a multi-legged creature on your shoulder." --Spock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: First Taligent Won't Run Existing Apps
From: tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:44:43 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Soliciting comments on the following:(long)

PC Week, August 17, 1992, pg 10:

"First Taligent OS Won't Run Existing Apps"

BOSTON -- The first edition of Taligent's object-oriented
operating system will not run existing OS/2, Macintosh and
AIX applications, an IBM official confirmed last week.

Initially, Taligent -- the joint venture announced last year
as part of IBM and Apple Computer Inc.'s sweeping alliance
-- will roll out a modular operating system and a set of
class libraries and frameworks that will run programs
designed for the native environment, said Richard Guarino,
vice president of the Apple alliance for IBM in Somers, N.Y.

"Taligent won't be a robust platform on day one," said
Guarino, in a session at Apple's first Enterprise Computing
Conference held here last week. "A year [after the operating
system is shipped], Taligent will provide interoperability
with AIX, System 7 and OS/2 applications, and it may be a
converged operating environment by the late '90s."

"Delaying compatibility may be a big mistake, analysts said.
"This dooms the operating system to failure," said Nancy
McSharry, an analyst in the Mountain View, Calif., office of
market researcher International Data Corp.  "There's not
room for a proprietary operating system in the current
environment."

Taligent, in tandem with IBM and Apple, is working to round
up a group of developers to write native Taligent
applications that will enable customers to tap the system's
advanced capabilities in its first release, which is due in
1994 or 1995, Guarino said.

"It's our belief that the brain trusts in our universities
are looking for something beyond Unix," Guarino said.

Taligent's modular and object-oriented operating system will
enable customers and developers to plug in components to
customize their environment and avoid the often
time-consuming and painful process of upgrading to whole new
systems, he explained.  In addition, common services such as
database access, networking and graphics will be built into
Taligent, streamlining the design process for develpers...



So what's this say for the future or Taligent?? Will they be
doomed if they don't ship Mac-AIX-OS/2 modules before 1996??
Thats four years from now...roughly three after NT ships...
or is Taligent's uniqueness going to be a strength that puts
it in a new class and so does not need to compete with
Microssoft el al??

Jonathan/tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: mkary@math.bu.edu (Michael Kary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Summary: Desktop Pub Info Request
Date: 16 Aug 92 04:00:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Boston University, Boston
Originator: mkary@math.bu.edu



Thanks to all who responded to my request for info- all two of you.
I'll briefly summarize the results anyway:

Respondent #1 said that Adobe  Illustrator would display coloured
text in a dither pattern on a black and white screen. However, its
text-handling capabilities would not be suitable for my needs. He
also suggested colouring the output by hand after it came out of
e.g. a laserwriter, if the volume was small. He commented that he
found the user interface on PageMaker to be unwieldly.

Respondent #2 said I had more than enough software already (no, I
just have demos or was able to test the packages at the university
computer centre) and that I should instead pay an English or
creative writing major to
do it for me. Coincidentally respondent #2 was himself just such a
major, freelancing in publication design.

That was about it as far as responses to my specific questions went.
I would have thought that with the popularity of the Powerbooks many
more people would have had experience with trying to use a little bit of
colour on a black and white screen for DTP. Maybe you're all on
vacation.

Thanks again for the suggestions.       

Michael Kary
From: mcp@drutx.ATT.COM (Mike Paugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: IIsi or not IIsi
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:06:15 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Denver

In article <1992Aug20.013809.9589@umbc3.umbc.edu>, grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST)) writes:
> 
> 	The $1572.00 for a IIsi is a great deal, but the
> new machines are going to make it almost obsolete. Their
> Later,
> 	Mike
> 	ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
> 	or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu


The release of a newer model of machine does not automatically
obsolete the previous models, IMHO.

I use a five year old MacII every day.  It does everything I
want it to do.  I just recently upgraded to 8 Meg of memory.  
It works great and, I hope, will continue to work great for
years to come.

I have ordered a IIsi for home because I can get student pricing.  
The new machines were "rumored" in MacWeek the day I placed my order.
I had planned to buy an LCII until the student prices came down on
the IIsi.  I plan to use the IIsi far into the future, as well.

Obsolesence is in the eye of the beholder.  My new home machine
will replace a company-owned SE.  I am looking forward to the 
increased speed and color capability at home, but I do not believe
that the SE is necessarily obsolete.  There is a guy here at work
who can't wait to get his hands on it when I bring it in.

Mike Paugh                Reading departure signs in some big airport
AT&T Bell Labs            Reminds me of the places I've been.
Denver                      -- Jimmy Buffett --
From: jwang@phy.duke.edu (James Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: HD floppies with Plus?
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:57:15 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <BsvpI4.Cyp@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>My dad got me a whole bunch of Sony HD disks, but I don't have a FDHD(?)
>What should I do with them? Can I use only 800k worth of them?
>
>thanks
>mike

No.  You might be able to get 400K out of (format 1 sided).  But I think the
tracks are out of phase for 800K.

Sorry, kiddo :(
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Gifconverter 2.3b1
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:01:13 CDT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

In article <1992Aug14.092801.268@mis.mcw.edu>, jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu writes:
> Peter Yung(pwky@ocf.berkeley.edu) writes:
>> Does anyone else one the net have problem with the new release of 
>> Gifconverter?
>> I got it from sumex and it doesn't seem to work.  
> <stuff deleted>
> 
> Same problem here.  The version number is 2.3b1 (Aug 1, 1992).
> <stuff deleted>
 
Just got the following by e-mail.  I can't get into Info-Mac right now
so I don't know whether that version is still on there

|Get version 2.2.10   What you have is a beta version and is VERY flacky
|from the experience I have had with it.
|Blackplague


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From: mk46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew E. Kowalczyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Question about FoxBase+/Mac
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:00:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.AeYE_CW00iUx81xVQ1
Organization: Sophomore, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone know how to create a folder using FoxBase+/Mac? I am able to
set a path name, but I cannot actually create a folder. I tried calling
Fox and I was put on eternal hold, so any help would be greatly
appreciated. I don't read the bboards that much so please mail any
responses directly to me at mk46+@andrew.cmu.edu  

Thanks in advance


     Matthew Kowalczyk     Carnegie Mellon University   mk46+@andrew.cmu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: HD floppies with Plus?
From: marc@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo)
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:40:09 PDT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

I've seen this done succsessfully, but it makes my skin crawl (I think it 
violates some compter commandment "thou shalt never...").

Put tape over the "HD" hole and use the disk.

Marc.

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Journalism/Computer Science  | GEnie:     M.MATTEO                    (better)
California State, Fresno     | Internet:  marc@csufres.csufresno.edu  (best)
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Gif question
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:38:21 GMT

How can I view GIF files on a Mac?
Do I need Uuedecode, GIF converter, or what?
And, whatever I need, could someone tell me where I can ftp it or could
someone E-mail it to me.

--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
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From: s1627480@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Quentin Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: System 7 from ftp.apple.com
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:31:03 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


hello.

I am trying to obtain System 7 software from ftp.apple.com

in the /dts/mac/sys.soft/7.0/7.0.800k directory there exists
several "image" files which are SIT and Bin-Hexed.

What is done with these files.. how do you get the software out of
these "image" files?

Am I missing something?

Thanks for the help...

   Q

s1627480@titan.ucc.umass.edu
qclark@forum.phast.umass.edu
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From: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Help wanted on .sit.hqx
Summary: hqx text files
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:59:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: venice.1992Aug14.185906.16263
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA

In article <14AUG199213511969@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673) writes:
>In article <berthiau.713751973@iros1>, berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume) writes...
>> 
>>  I want to download some .sit.hqx programs from a UNIX machine. Problem is, I 
>>only have access to Term 20, a pretty basic communication program. It's asking
>>what the type and creator of the downloaded file are, and I have NO idea
>
>By the time downloaded files get to my Mac, they are text documents. I suggest 
>that you use the type and creator of TeachText or your word processor.  For 
>TeachText, the type is TEXT and the creator is ttxt (case sensitive). 
>
>Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser%nssdca.span@star.stanford.edu
>Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
>Greenbelt, MD


What works best for me is the generic text ids:
type TEXT   creator MACA     (all caps)

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From: bienk@erg.sri.com (Marie Bienkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Writing MAC-readable floppies from Sparcstation
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:18:51 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

Can anyone direct me to a software package that runs under
Unix that will write MAC-readable floppies using the floppy
drive on the Sparcstation.  I've heard that such a package
exists (FloppyWorks?) but don't have any information on it.

Thanks,
Marie
bienk@erg.sri.com

-- 
Thanks,
Marie B
From: stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Command Key Font Symbol
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:01:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: otago.1992Aug20.130123.3285
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

burrows@milton.u.washington.edu (William Burrows) writes:
> I am writing some documentation and would like to include the
> symbol for the command key in the documentation. However, I donUt
> seem to be able to find it in any font sets. Can anyone help?

It's in the Chicago font. If you're not using TrueType it'll look
rather crappy, but otherwise it comes out fine. Keystrokes for
this and other useful characters:

        "hollow" apple          ctrl-P   (yes, the control key)
        command symbol          ctrl-Q
        tick mark               ctrl-R )
        diamond                 ctrl-S ) as used in menus
        filled apple            ctrl-T

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: 2-Page Monochrome Monitor for MacIIci ADVICE WANTED
Keywords: monitor
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:34:57 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

Looking for a very clear, bright 2 page monitor for our new MacIIci.   
Recommendations on past experience for both hardware and vendors would be  
greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Anthony Holland
Skidmore
From: maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: NOW utils 4 updates WILL work with 3.02 components.
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:40:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: msc.1992Aug19.214058.13692
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center

The update to Now Utilities 4.0, as many know, will omit a
few utilities, most notably DeskPicture and AlarmsClock. 
Yesterday someone posted a claim that not only did the collection
omit these utilities, but it would not run if you used the 3.02
versions of these utilities. This seemed outrageous to me, but 
sufficiently outrageous to be unlikely so I called NOW today.
I spoke to a very nice woman who was startled by this claim 
and who unequivocally assured me that my old 3.02 DeskPicture
and AlarmsClock would work once I installed th 4.0 updates. She
seemed pretty upset at this rumour of NOW's maliciouness and asked
me to post making this quite clear. She was only a sales droid,
but did seem genuinely startled to hear this claim and concerned 
about the reputation NOW had.

Maynard Handley
Newsgroups: local.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander)
Subject: Re: boot from hard disk is impossible
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:33:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.145807.23910@rtsg.mot.com>, duin@rtsg.mot.com (Harry H. Duin) writes:
> 
> I am having a startup problem with my Mac. Upon powerup my Mac will
> only boot from the floppy disk and not from any attached hard disk.
> My hard disk on SCCI 6 does contain a System Folder.
> 
> Configuration: Mac IIx
>                Finder 6.1.4
>                System 6.0.4
> 	       Quantum 105 on SCSI 4 (internal)
>                Jasmine DirectDrive 70 on SCSI 6 (external)
> 
> Let me give some more background. I started out with only the internal hard
> disk a few weeks ago. Everything seemed fine. Then I made the mistake
> to insert the Apple tour diskette (you know the Hypercard simulation) and
> the Apple tour does not work on the IIx - in fact the program seems to  get
> stuck in some kind of loop. I then pressed the reset programmer switch and hoped 
> the diskette would be ejected by the Mac. Alas not true. Then I pressed the reset
> switch again and immediately ejected the diskette by sticking a pin into the
> hole to the right of the floppy disk (emergency eject). This is when the above
> problem started. It seems like the Mac still thinks there is a diskette present 
> and will refuse to talk to the hard disk for startup information.
> 
> Can anyone help me out? I have spent hours on this problem by reformatting my
> hard drives, using other System Folders etc.
> 
> Harry Duin
> duin@rtsg.mot.com
> 
> 

Try Zapping the PRAM (I don't know how to on your h/w, but it's probably in
a FAQ if not your manuals). I've had _really bad_ crashes cause the PRAM to
get garbaged like what you are describing.

-Sven
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: HD floppies with Plus?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:05:10 GMT

In <1992Aug15.155249.3948@ultb.isc.rit.edu> dcr3567@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.C. Richardson ) writes:

>>>My dad got me a whole bunch of Sony HD disks, but I don't have a FDHD(?)
>>>What should I do with them? Can I use only 800k worth of them?

>Sure you can use 'em.  Just format them as normal on the Plus.  You'll
>get 800k available.  If you want to use them on an HD drive, just slap a 
>stretch of scotch tape over the HD Identifying hole.
            ^^^^^^
Isn't a light beam used to detect the hole? If so, Scotch tape won't work.
On the other hand, if it uses a mechanical sensor, any tape should do. 

Of course, using HD disks is a waste and a big potential for confusion
later when people stick these in an HD drive, but I thought there was
something about the formulation of HD disks that could make them
unreliable for 800K use. Maybe just a vicious rumour? :-)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: MacRenderMan and its documentation
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:10:02 GMT

I was just wondering for those of you who are developing apps which use the
MacRenderMan developers stuff had any *serious* trouble understanding their
documentation when you were first trying to figure it out.

I am interested in all opinions concerning this matter.  Please respond via
E-mail and I will post a summary if there is interest.

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