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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Cd-Rom
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 20:03:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Robin,

RB>We are using the BBS to write to children in other countries however, the
RB>reply rate is very disappointing. When we started, we
RB>received replies quickly- the immediacy of this medium is a
RB>very real advantage- but lately we haven't had a reply in
RB>about two weeks and interest is waning. We've had good
RB>response from Chris Rowan on Channel 11 GVN and I have to
RB>make sure that my fascination with the K12 network is
RB>balanced with the return the children get.

Just in passing Robin. we still haven't got this technology working to
our complete satisfaction. Sometimes the system breaks down and
unfortunately, users like yourself do not get to hear of when and where
the breakdown occured.

The events to which you refer above were the result of a breakdown
between the USA and Sydney. But at which end precisely, I don't know.

I suggest that you ask your sysop to make our local zone 3 echo
available to you, so that in future you will have some knowledge of
when thinks are going wrong...

lukim yu

 * SLMR 2.1a * Coral Sea Views, Wulguru, Townsville, Australia


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From: isilver@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: COOPERATIVE LRNG.
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:04:28 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada


      What do you need, Melanie? Saskatchewan has TONNES of stuff
on co-op learning. Write me directly at ISILVER@Meena.CC.Uregina.
CA, and I'll send you whatever I can find.
       Regards
                            Ian
From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: REBUTTAL                 
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 18:28:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Hi John,

-> I am a teacher in a Christian Brothers Boys School, grade 8 - 12, 500
-> stds.

Oh, for some reason even though I know you've said this before, it
suddenly just clicked. The "Christian Brothers" are an order based out
of Ireland who's main mission is education, is it not? We have a couple
of Christian Brothers at our school (if I am correct in the first part
of this post). Great guys...one of them was my instructor when I was in
high school.

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                                                  

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From: Debra.Cartledge@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Debra Cartledge)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Exchangehing
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 13:09:52 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Dear David,
I was on exchange to Ohio, USA, in 1990.  By all means, go for it.  You'll find the experience very interesting.  The system in the US is VERY different to Australia as are the attitudes to education and the academic achievements of the students.  But the most interesting part of the exchange was the actuality of living in a different culture.  I can't say that I actually enjoyed the teaching, frankly I found it too different.  But I am extremely glad that I have done it.

                                Good Luck 


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From: Meg.Pruett@p10.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Meg Pruett)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Interpreters
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 06:41:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.10 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

 >  Feel free to ask if you ned any help setting up your new
 > equipment at
 > school.  It seems so logical to me that deaf kids would use
 > telecomm like
 > crazy since no one can tell anything about the person on the
 > other end of
 > the line.  K12Net should provide excellent access for your
 > kids.
 > ...Tom, La Conner, WA, USA

Tom,
     Thanks for the encouragement.  I trust we'll see more and more telecomm activity by our kids.    
                                             Meg

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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Penpals ?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 19:36:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Allwyn,

AS>  Do you know of any school, class, or individual students who would
AS>  like to correspond in simple English with my ESL or Chinese
AS>  students?

There is a school here in Queensland who was asking just that. I can't
recall the name of the school but the BBS was The Farmers Friend in
Toowoomba.

ooroo

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From: Carol.Tadlock@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Tadlock)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: wuss/wus/woos
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 10:46:30 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Here's what I've heard from students: wuss is a combination of wimp and puss.  
It is a softer way of being insulting without being crude.  But that's just
hearsay.


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Daylight Saving
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:02:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Peter,

PM>John to Terry Bowden re writing to me:

PM>JF> > Search me, boss.

PM>JF>I think that should be

PM>JF>Search me baas    :-)

PM>In my view, sheep shots like that are for the woolly-minded.

I think this time that you have walked down the wrong lane. Don't you read
the books of Wilbur Smith? If you did, you'd know which 'baas' I was
alluding to....

ooroo

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From: Bill.DeMarse@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Bill DeMarse)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Penpals
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:38:52 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

To all second grade teachers, 11-10-92
We are doing multi-cultural studies in our classroom and would like to establish penpals with a class (or several classes) from Alaska. If you are interested, please write back to me as soon as possible. Thank You!
Bill DeMarse, Nelson Elementary School, Muskegon, MI 49441


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From: John.Mclaughlin@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John Mclaughlin)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: GLOBAL VILLAGE NEWS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:39:47 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Chris -- I read your message about Global Village and am really interested 
in getting my students connected.  I teach a combined Grade 7-8-9 in 
Bathurst, New Brunswick.  We do a newspaper activity a couple of times a week 
and your project would fit in with our program.  Let me know what I have to 
do if it isn't too late, okay?

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From: Larry.Kravitz@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Larry Kravitz)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Hello
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:45:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hey Mark.... :)  I am glad your on line. Maybe we can expand it to some of the other teachers and perhaps get a few projects going. It's a great way to motivate the kids!!!!!  The adopt the river project is being picked up in Texas (not at the Bush or Perot home), Oregon, New Zealand,
South Africa.....etc. It looks good so far. Its getting late and have to go . Catch you later...................Larry


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From: Bill.Arrigoni@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Arrigoni)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Adopt-a-River
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 16:25:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

 >     I too would like to join in on this type; of study.  My school is located
 >in Charlemont , MA. and our backyard is the Deerfield River which feeds into
 >the Connecticut and eventually to Long Island sound.  In collaboration with
 >the National Space Foundation my students and I and several other teachers in
 >Western MA are also monitoring streams and rivers.  We are testing for DO,
 >nitrates,
 >ph, alk, and some who are lucky enough to have the equipment are also doing
>coliform.  We are also studying the geology and topography of the the
watershed  >and the rivers velocity , varied widths and discharge rate.  Our
collection  >dates are on Tuesday and we will be trying to share data via the
bbs.  I would  >love to have anyother bbs users who are involved in this ltype

Sorry to interupt, but in my middle school we are doing similar tests and
would be happy to share data. We are testing monthly for water temp, air
temp, ph, DO, nitrates, orthophostate, alkalinity, turbidity, amonnia,
and biochemical oxygen demand.
 
Nelsen Middle School is located in Renton, Wa. Look forward to hearing
from you.
            BILL


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From: jsammons@norfolk.vak12ed.edu (John C. Sammons)
Subject: ELECTION RESULTS!
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Norfolk)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:14:27 GMT

  The following mock election results have already been
  forwarded to the participating schools. The results are
  being posted here for other schools who are interested
  in the outcome. We appreciate the interest shown by the
  schools listed below! (Note: Chesapeake and the state
  of Virginia as a whole voted for Bush/Quayle in the
  real election.)



                     BUSH/    CLINTON/   PEROT/
                    QUAYLE     GORE    STOCKDALE   OTHERS
CHESAPEAKE, VA
Butts Road INT        407        71       142         0
Carver INT            222       398       122         0
Chittum ELEM          435       120       122         2
Crestwood INT         395       129        63         0
Crestwood MID         160       297       119         9
Deep Creek Central    259       117        41         0
Deep Creek INT        333       214       167         8
Deep Creek PRI        399        98        87         0
Great Bridge MID N    596       200       407         8
Great Bridge INT      144        46        57         0
Greenbrier INT        347       146       118        10
Greenbrier PRI        252        84        54         0
Hickory ELEM          229        76        65         0
Park ELEM             143       212        51         0
Southeastern ELEM     339       117       104         0
Treakle ELEM          120       124        55         0
Western Branch INT    298       184       132         0

OTHER VIRGINIA
Phoebus HS            134       337       156         0
(Hampton)
Floris ELEM           117        75        69         5
(Herndon)
Huntington MID        135       374        73         2
(Newport News)
Shea Terrace ELEM      87       165        51         0
(Portsmouth)
Critzer ELEM          109       137        88         0
(Pulaski)
Pulaski MID           198       179       135         0
(Pulaski)
Nansemond-Suffolk A   149        34       177         0
(Suffolk)
Landstown MID         575       539       543         0
(VA Beach)
Old Donation Ctr      603       308       268         2
(VA Beach)
Antietam EL           397       171       116         0
(Woodbridge)

OTHER STATES
Mercer EL              90       280        80         0
(Shaker Heights, OH)
Indian Ridge MID      229       279        76         0
(El Paso, TX)
St. Philomena Sch      26        46        40         0
(Des Moines, WA)
Athens HS              56        89        91         0
(Athens, WV)

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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Search/Keyboarding
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:58:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

Lorna, Thanks for the rundown on your curriculum.  It sounds like ours is
similar.  We start keyboarding in third grade at present, but I think
second is not too early, and I'm introducing the concept to my first grade
classes also.  The other big deal we spend alot of time on in third is how
to use the word processor just enough to write, save, and print a
document.  It's a long process for some kids, and sixth graders are still
having trouble with it in some cases.  To do that, I require each student
to write in a journal file nearly every time they come to class.  This
makes the steps easier to remember and understand when they go to write
something else. But I think I told you this already.
 ...Tom, La conner, WA, USA

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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Sad News.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:32:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia


* Original Area: k12.zone3
* Original To  : All (3:640/706)

G'day,

Some of the long time readers of K12.zone3 will recall a msg in which the
following story was told.

Earlier this year, our student body of some 500 boys held a 'free dress'
day and were found to be 'out of school uniform'. They were 'fined' accordingly.

This is a normal way for our students to support local charities in our
city.  The normal fine being $1.

This time, the fine was set at $2. In addition, students went doorknocking
in their neighbourhood. A total of around $1800 was raised in three days.

The money was used to buy a laptop computer, complete with built-in modem
for Frank d'llario. Frank is one of our Grade 11 students who was
sufferring from luekemia.  That disease cannot be treated in our city, so
Frank had to go to our State Capital, Brisbane.

From hospital in Brisbane, Frank was able, when he had the strength, to
send and receive msgs from his friends at school. Frank fought the disease
for nearly two years.

It is with sadness, tinged with joy, that we announce that Frank died last
night in Brisbane. The joy comes from knowing a young man such as Frank. I
would have been pleased to have had him for a son. Joy also,from knowing
that he is now free from the pain.

His funeral service will be held in our school hall next week. You see, we
think of our school as a family. He will be sadly missed.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Coral Sea Views, Wulguru, Townsville, Australia


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From: Rob.Reilly@f223.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Reilly)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Using the net
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:47:22 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/223 - SchoolHouse BBS, Lanesboro MA

Hello There,
 
Nice to see that you are using K12Net.
 
 epf> People, please don't make personal replies on the net. Also,
 epf> PLEASE keep your material down to 80 or 72 column formats
 epf> with hard returns at the end. Of course, I am assuming
 epf> my missive makes it intact to the net. Having some
 epf> problems here. Thanks. Penryn
 
I am sorry to hear that you are having problems at your end.  But the problem does seem to be just that - a problem at your end!  
 
Asking a whole network to adjust is not logistically possible and if it were I am sure that doing that would not be mandated.
 
In regard to the personal replies, they are not strictly "personal" as they are public (everyone can see them).  K12Net is constructed to have conversations such as you see.  K12Net (k12.* news) is a large participatory interactive network where we can all see and profit from the ideas of others. 
 
Again, I am sorry for your problems, but it falls to you to adjust to the K12Net operation and not the other way around!
 
-Rob-


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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: looking for penpals
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 15:37:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <29 Oct 92 20:22:58 >, Allyn Stillman (1:138/118) writes:

 AS>I teach ESL at the high school level with students from Vietanm, 
 AS>Cambodia, Mexico, Haiti, etc. who are learning to write in English and 
 AS>to use computers.  We have, so far, been uable to find penpals ages 
 AS>26-19 for them in K12NET.  Can you give me any advice on how connect 
 AS>with a class which would like to correspond, in simple English, with my 
 AS>students on this network?
 AS>Al Stillman, Wilson High  Tacoma, Washington 

You do have an interesting case there.  In principle we are a network for  
younger students.

I mainly work with teachers who teach science in grades 4 thru 9.

Hopefull someone with some careing older students can get them to write to   
your students.

Good luck. 


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From: Soozi.Miller@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: tele-talking
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:36:13 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT


In a message from Meg Pruett, this was asked, Ron:
 > Soozi,
 >         I'd love to help get the communication flowing but
 > I'm going to need a big assist in finding out where to begin.
 > I've talked with 4 interpreters, 2 audiologists, and another
 > utilizing telecommunications.  I've also come across messages
 > from professionals in the field from other locations who
 > appear to be interested in establishing connections.  It
 > is there, so why isn't it happening?

  Can you give me any
 > insights or suggestions as to how to "spur" this thing on?
 > It did occur to me to pull together the makings of a
 > presentation and try to get one or two of the related
 > professional groups to hear me out.  Do I have to develop the
 > presentation from scratch or has someone else already started
 > the design of that "wheel"?
 >  * Origin: The MetNet BBS, Lockwood, MT.  245-2224

Now you have the specifics, could you help her?  Could you help me?  Soozi


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From: Connie.Mark@f6.n345.z1.fidonet.org (Connie Mark)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Wetlands
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 09:04:52 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:345/6 - Leeward School Dist, Honolulu HI

Hi George! I am keeping in touch. will be nice to get info about taiwan wetlands. The teacher of concern, will be getting in touch. Just havent had the time to get the number to her. Will definitely do it this week. Her name is Sharon Asato., so be on the look out for her. Thanks! Connie


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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Daylight Savings: Other countries?????
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:08:59 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Ian,

Thanks for the first transatlantic response to my inquiry.  I didn't know that 
Britain goes on Daylight Savings!

Julie
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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Interpreters
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 22:06:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

Hi Meg,  I'll try to write to the Vancouver school this week.  They have a
contact person listed for Learning Link, so they should have telecomm
equipment.
 Feel free to ask if you ned any help setting up your new equipment at
school.  It seems so logical to me that deaf kids would use telecomm like
crazy since no one can tell anything about the person on the other end of
the line.  K12Net should provide excellent access for your kids.
 It's a poor reflection on our society's values that teachers have to buy
their own technology and teach themselves, but hey, we're doing it, and
the kids will benefit, so good for you and keep after it! :)
...Tom, La Conner, WA, USA

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:50:33 EST
From: <AJM106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: ISO e-mail connection for students

I hope that this is a pertinent topic for this newsgroup.  Strictly speaking,
I am a college instructor, but I am involved in several efforts to interest
 elementary and high school student in math, science, and engineering. I
work with a group of engineering students who use e-mail rather regularly,
and they often go out to schools to work with younger kids on engineering/
science projects.  I have seen some of the chat newsgroups for K -12, and this
made me think it would be neat to get the younger students to talk to the
engineering students via e-mail from their school or home (time to get the
next generatino of Internet-ers started! :)  ) Anyway, I was wondering if
there are any ways for students at the jr. high and high school levels to
get access to e-mail accounts.  The request is a general one as far as
geographical area is concerned, but I am particularly interested in service
in the area codes :

                   814    (PA)
                   410    (MD)
                   215    (PA)
Any information on services and/or leads to services would be much appreciated.
I'd be particularly interested to find out if there are any free services,
since this would make it easier on the schools and/or parents.

Thanks,
Andy



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From: Ian.Howard@f16.n258.z2.fidonet.org (Ian Howard)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Daylight Savings: Other countries?????
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 13:22:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:258/16 - Teenage Retreat (23, Littleborough

Hi Julie!

On Tuesday November 03 1992, Julie Rosenoff wrote a message to All:

 JR> My students would like to know if any countries besides the U.S.A.
 JR> change their clocks by one hour each spring and fall (i.e. change to
 JR> and from Daylight Savings).  ]

Well here in Britain we do !

-- Ian.


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