Original_To:  JNET%"hellas@uga"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:35:00 EDT
Reply-To:     "YORGOS M. MALTAS" <GEORGE@UMBC.BITNET>
From:         "YORGOS M. MALTAS" <GEORGE@UMBC.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Apeiln polemou kai Skopia

From:         "Hatzigeorgiu" <nickolas@PHYSICS.UCLA.EDU>

>Av prosekses auto pou eipa ntav oti n ekstrateia tou
>Megalou Aleksavdrou ntav dikaiolognmevn alla kai avagkaia.

Ti wraia pou ta les kurie Xatzngewrgiou...
AGNOEIS oti n "autokratoria" ekeivn tnv epoxn movo isxurn dev ntav!
Diabase ligo tov 3evofwvta kai 0a ma0eis to giati...
Avagkaia, loipov, dev ntav giati dev upnrxe kavevas kivduvos!
"Dikaiolognmevn" omws ntav giati:
- ikavopoiouse tis proswpikes filodo3ies tou Alekou
kai sav kalos politikos kai stratngos tis dikaiolognse sav:
a. dikaiwma olwv twv Ellnvwv (ektos twv Lakaidemoviwv, opws swsta aveferes)
   Em bebaia opoios dev n0ele va dnlwsei summetoxn stnv ekstrateia ntav
   prodotns...
   Eivai periergo pou 3afvika o Alekos milnse gia tous Ellnves sav suvolo
   otav mexri ekeivn tnv stigmn oi poleis-kratn movo tov eautouln tous koita-
   zav (px. poses fores dev eixav pouln0ei stous Perses gia va allnloe3ovtw-
   0ouv?)
b. ekpolitistikn ekstrateia. O Alekos eivai aln0eia oti dnmiourgnse, peripou,
   140 vees poleis (n' parapavw), perissotero gia va xrnsimopoin0ouv sav ba-
   seis tns kaivourgias autokratorias (n avesn me tnv opoia proxwrnse mesa sto
   Persiko edafos kai allou apodeikvuei to poso aduvamoi ntav oi Perses)...
   Kai opws eipame sav kalos politikos eixe mazi tou kai diavooumevous gia va
   skorpisouv tnv ellnvikn ske$n (dnl. tnv a0nvaikn, ka0oti daskalos tou ntav
   o Aristotelns). Pws alliws 0a eferve suvoxn sto terastio se ektasn kratos
   tou??? E3allou, opws exw gra$ei apeires fores fores, oi diavooumevoi xreia-
   zovtai, kai xrnsimopoiouvtai avaloga, gia va dikaiolognsouv me LOGIKO tropo
   ta kaivourgia metra kai sta0ma mias kuriarxias...

>Ta peri Ivdwv pou les pou kolave; Kataktnsame kai tnv Ivdia
>kai dev to nksera;

Nai file mou! Se merika xwria tns Ivdias uparxouv akoma istories gia tov 0ruli-
ko Iskavtar (koivws: Ale3avdro). Ama eixes gvwseis Istorias 0a to n3eres...

>Episns tov Mega Aleksavdro tov les megaleko. Dev vomizeis oti
>eisai kapws mikros gia va paizeis etsi me ovomata pe0amevwv;
>Na sou 0umisw oti Megas ovomastnke gia tis stratiwtikes tou
>ikavotntes kai akomn kai snmera avagvwrizetai ws evas apo
>tous kaluterous stratnlates olwv twv epoxwv. Diafwveis;

Kammia diafwvia gia to Megas! Htav pragmatika pave3upvos stratngos kai polles
apo tis taktikes tou tis didaskouv akoma stis stratiwtikes akadnmies...
To Alekos omws giati se peirazei? Les va trizouv ta kokkala tou makaritn ekei
pou brisketai epeidn o Rekleitns tov apokalese "megaleko"??? Imartov...

>otav to daxtulo deixvei ta asteria, o mpouvtalas koitaei to vuxi...

tote giati kolas sto "megalekos"???

>YG2. Eleu0eria, isotnta, aderfosuvn: Mnpws mperdeueis to 300PX
>me tipota aiwves MX;;;; Lew, mnpws...
>Ta peri M.Aleksavdros=0eos, ofeilovtai profavws se
>avatolitikes epidraseis. Kai suvexistnke kai stn Rwma.i.kn
>autokratoria. Opote esu me mia "kritikn" movokovdulia, diagrafeis
>dekades politismous: apo Aiguptious, Perses, Ivdous, mexri Ivkas klp.

Listen bro, once and for all: uparxei mia istorikn suvexeia, eite to 0es
eite oxi! O Alekos pragmati ovomase tov eauto tou 0eo otav briskotav stnv
Aigupto. Sto sxoleio mas eipav oti to ekave giati katalabe ta n0n kai e0ima
twv Aiguptiwv kai oti sav kalos politikos ta evstervistnke gia va dei3ei oti
sebetai tnv kaivourgia koultoura pou eixe gvwrisei. Autn omws eivai merikn
apo tnv aln0eia giati twra 3eroume oti ikavopoinse me autov tov tropo kai tnv
mataiodo3ia tou... O kaumevos o Kleitos kati 3erei...
Kai pou'sai bro: stnv Rwmaikn autokratoria prwtos o Oktabiavos (giati pnge va
to kavei kai o Kaisaras, alla tou ko$ave to tzitzi tou), polu e3upva, xrnsimo-
poinse autov tov titlo (titlo pou tou EDWSAN OI IDIOI OI RWMAIOI, n elite
dnladn), gia politikous skopous (bl. ta parapavw) kai dev ntav epeidn eixe
dextei avatolikes epidraseis (aln0eia exeis akousei pote gia to PAX ROMANA?).
Eide o Oktabiavos, opws kai o Kaisaras, ti kavave autoi oi laoi gia va dikaiolo-
gnsouv tnv kuriarxia tous stov laoutziko. Tous elegav "eimai 0eos" kai "oti
kavw eivai dikaiolognmevo kai swsto, esu pou dev eisai tipota dev mporeis va me
elegxeis!" Kai mias pou o laoutzikos ntav amorfwtos, tou poulagav filosofnmevn
(metafusikn, av 0es) magkia. Kai klama n kuria...
Auto, polu apla, sou leei o Rekleitns! Auto ma0aiveis apo tnv Istoria...

Protou 3estomiseis megaloprepeis aforismous alln fora kalo 0a'tav va 3avadiaba-
zes tnv Istoria gia va mnv givesai rezili...

O lukos
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