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From: kevinc@ups.com (Kevin C. Castner)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1540B Pricing
Organization: UPS Research & Development
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:27:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.063722.23025@burns.jpl.nasa.gov> you wrote:
: 
: Hello all.
: 
: I have the chance of buying an Adaptec 1540B (the one without the Floppy
: drive on it).  The card is used and has no documentation nor software.
: Does anyone have a good estimate how much this would cost me?  I'd greatly
: appreciate any advice.
: 
: Kolin
: hand@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
: 
: +===========================================================================+
: +  "Guilt Trip:  The nuclear weapon of relationships."  -- K. Hand          +
: +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
: +  Kolin E. Hand                              hand@spc7.jpl.nasa.gov        +

Kolin:
	These are good cards, even though they don't have floppy controllers.
They are however SCSI-1 and will not work with some of the newer, more
exotic SCSI devices.  Normal hard drives (under 1024 tracks), should work
fine as well as most tapes and CD-ROM's, but I'm unsure it will work if you
to try to hook up 8mm tape drives, and RAID boxes.

	Considering that a 1542B (floppy controllers and SCSI-2) is about
$250.00, I wouldn't pay more that $125-$150 for this card.  I would think
that is a fair offer.

	I have two of these cards, and they are both reliable and have been
in service for over three years.  I don't remember any software coming with
it as ID 0 is put into the DOS device table as drive C, and ID 1 is put in
as D:.  Past that, you need drivers, etc from adaptec.  Their bulleting 
board is very good, and they have a forum on CompuServe.  I've never had to
deal with this since I only use this under SCO Unix.

	If you can't get the doc's from them, drop me a note and I'll send
you a photocopy of the manual for jumper settings etc.
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      Kevin C. Castner                           kevinc@ups.com
      Unix Administrator                         United Parcel Service
From: dtsullivan@leds.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: FOR SALE: 400MB 3 1/2" disk
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:25:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


   I have a 400 MByte 3 1/2" disk for sale.  It is an IBM disk and I would like
to get $600 for it.  You pay shipping and insurance.

I can be reached at: dtsullivan@leds.enet.dec.com
From: cyberman@exucom.com (Stephen R. Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Sequential SCSI devices?
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:25:30 GMT
Organization: ExuCom MultiMedia Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


After Skimming the SCSI-2 specs (and SCSI) both mention sequential
SCSI devices.  

Questions pop into this neophyte mind:

1:	This means the sequential SCSI device is NOT treated like a
block device (though it can except BLOCKS of data) that contain
randomly accessable blocks? 

2:	Can this be used for bidirectional devices such as:
	And Xterminal (requires MASSIVE bandwidth)
	Term IO ports (IE a BANK of serial ports)

Cyberman
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From: landis@sugs.tware.com (Hale Landis)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Seagate ST1480N jumper settings 
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 16:56:10 GMT
Organization: SUGS

Here are the numbers for Seagate's Technical Support.

SeaBOARD - Bulletin Board System available 24 hours.  Use 8 data
           bits, no parity, 1 stop bit (8-N-1).

   USA/Canada  408-438-8771    9600 baud*

   England     44-62-847-8011  9600 baud*

   Germany     49-89-140-9331  2400 baud*

   Singapore   65-292-6973     9600 baud*

   Australia   61-2-756-2359   9600 baud*

   * - Maximum baud rate supported.

SeaFAX 408-438-2620

   Use a touch-tone phone to have information returned to you via
   FAX.  Available 24 hours.

Technical Support Fax 408-438-8137

   FAX your questions or comments 24 hours.  Responses are sent
   between 8:00AM and 5:00PM PST Monday through Friday.

SeaFONE 408-438-8222

   Provides recorded information 24 hours or talk to a technical
   specialist between 8:00AM to 5:00PM PST Monday through Friday.

SeaTDD 408-438-5382

   Using a Telecommunications Device for the Deaf, you can send
   questions or comments 24 hours or have a dialog with a
   technical support specialist between 8:00AM and 5:00PM PST
   Monday through Friday.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: Re: SEAGATE 11200N 1 GB drive & Fast SCSI comments
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:03:46 GMT
Keywords: SEAGATE, Fast SCSI

BRETTM@ccmail.orst.edu (Marcia Brett) writes:

>I would appreciate any comments on:
>1. the Seagate 11200N drive
>2. Seagate drives in general
>3. advantages, disadvantages of Fast SCSI
>4. UltraStor controllers

>I'm considering buying this for my Novell server.  I have not been happy 
>with Seagate drives in the past, but I understand their large drives are 
>better.  It is supposed to have a 5 year warranty, but frankly, I'd just as 
>soon avoid the down time on the server, even if it is covered by warranty.

>Is fast SCSI that much faster.  Are there problems associated with it that I 
>should avoid.  What are the best controllers and drives that support fast-
>SCSI (ISA bus).

I haven't used the tiny 1.2GB scsi, but I have a 5.25" and it works fine.  I've
installed more than a few and only one has had problems.  Just plain flaked out
drive(up and died with no usage).  I've had much more experience with the 5.25s
and they haven't caused any problems.  I had a WREN 5 and 6 on novell for over
3 years.  I've used the 3.5" 1480 series.  That was were I had the total flake
out.  

I like Seagate.  All the drives above 300MB are good.  They are the products
of now defunct CDC(swallowed up  SEAGATE). Seagate has a base of 1 year on most 
drives, but most resellors put it to 5.  

As far as the advantages of FAST-SCSI, they depend on what platform you are
using.  If it is an EISA or LOCALBUS or fast proprietary SCSI controller, then
you may well get additional benefit.  But if you are putting it in an ISA,
then you are going to run into the 5MB/s transfer barrier.  Note that the 
transfer rate stated is max possible(10MB/s).  I get ~7MB/s on my Sparc10
and about ~6 on my EISA 486-25.  Oh, if you have a caching controller then
you might get additional performance on an ISA machine, but I don't ever buy
caching controllers.

Probably better getting more memory for you NW server if performance is
the big factor after all, unless you're running FDDI, 2-3MB/s from std
SCSI(2) is more than ether/token/arc can handle.  As far as Ultrastor,
I've used the 14F(I think that's the model) and the Adaptec 15xx and 17xx
series.  I never really had any problems getting it going.  I think that
the adaptec series was a little easier to setup for NW.

FastSCSI would be great for SFT III and mirroring drives across FDDI, though.

Best of Luck! 

Seasons Greeting!

 
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: aek@wiretap.spies.com (Al Kossow)
Subject: Re: SCSI->QIC02 adapter
Organization: Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer, Cupertino CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:56:50 GMT

The MT02 is a SCSI to QIC36 adapter.
Sysgen made a SASI to QIC02 adapter that Sun used to use before they
switched to QIC 36 drives and MT02's

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Kamil Maheshwari)
Subject: SEND/RECV Diagnostic (SCSI) command. any thoughts?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:10:46 GMT


======================================================================

Dear NetLings,

Due to the lack of a better (more appropriate) newsgroup to post this
to, I am putting this thought here. I am going to be implementing the
SEND/RECV Diagnostic SCSI command on serial drives (tapes). It should
not matter that its being implemented on a serial drive since SEND is
a mandatory command to implement across all drives.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
QUESTION: What are some of the applications which use/rely on these
command being there and working properly? I would be very interested 
in knowing the cases and scenarios.. PLEASE
---------------------------------------------------------------------

THOUGHTS: Usually RECV Diag command should immed. follow SEND command
to ensure consistent results. 

1. Do you think that RECV diag immed following SEND diag should get a 
UNIT ATTN after some of the tests which do power-on type tests, 
e.g.  test with SelfTest bit set.

2. Do you think that some other initiator (other than the one issuing 
SEND cmmd) should be able to do a RECV diag and get the result of the 
previous SEND cmd by another initiator?

PLEASE respond by e-mail and I'd summarize if there is enought interest.

Thanks once again, kamil.
======================================================================
Xref: sparky comp.periphs:1654 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:32847 comp.os.linux:19982
From: darrylo@hpsrdmo.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DMA on PC motherboards
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: darrylo@sr.hp.com
Followup-To: comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Center for Primal Scream Therapy
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Ed Hall (edhall@rand.org) wrote:

> In article <Bz3yB0.MC8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> you write:
> >     I don't know if using cheap motherboards is the problem, but I
> >agree with the above quote.  I've been using a high-quality (read:
> >expensive) AMI motherboard -- where the ENTIRE motherboard, and not the
> >just BIOS, is made by AMI -- and I haven't had any DMA hardware problems
> >with my Adaptec 1542A.  I have had problems when multiple DMA bus
> >masters try to access the bus (causes memory refresh starvation,
> >resulting in parity errors), but this is a problem with the PC
> >architecture.
>
> You can increase the BUSOFF time on the 1542 to reduce the chance of
> refresh starvation when you have more than one of them.

     Yup, that's the fix that I used.  In my case, though, it wasn't
multiple Adaptec cards causing the problem -- it was my sound card while
I was recording sound at a sampling rate of 44110Hz.  The sound card DMA
and 1542A DMA starved memory refresh until I changed the bus on/off
times on the 1542A.

> I made pretty much the same choice you did--buying an AMI motherboard
> at a premium when I upgraded to a 486/33.  There were just too many
> reports of motherboards having problems with bus mastering cards,
> especially under UNIX, for me to take chances.  I've never regretted
> it in the year since then.

     I agree.

     -- Darryl Okahata
	Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com

DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the
little green men that have been following him all day.
Xref: sparky comp.periphs:1651 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:32835 comp.os.linux:19972
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DMA on PC motherboards
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:29:39 GMT
Reply-To: edhall@rand.org
Organization: RAND
To: darrylo@sr.hp.com

In article <Bz3yB0.MC8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> you write:
>     I don't know if using cheap motherboards is the problem, but I
>agree with the above quote.  I've been using a high-quality (read:
>expensive) AMI motherboard -- where the ENTIRE motherboard, and not the
>just BIOS, is made by AMI -- and I haven't had any DMA hardware problems
>with my Adaptec 1542A.  I have had problems when multiple DMA bus
>masters try to access the bus (causes memory refresh starvation,
>resulting in parity errors), but this is a problem with the PC
>architecture.

You can increase the BUSOFF time on the 1542 to reduce the chance of
refresh starvation when you have more than one of them.

I made pretty much the same choice you did--buying an AMI motherboard
at a premium when I upgraded to a 486/33.  There were just too many
reports of motherboards having problems with bus mastering cards,
especially under UNIX, for me to take chances.  I've never regretted
it in the year since then.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.arch.storage
From: dave@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Dave Goldblatt)
Subject: Re: Raid 7 Versus Earlier Raid 4
Reply-To: dave@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam NY
	<1992Dec8.141236.20204@seachg.uucp> <Bz34vE.Ay@queernet.org>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:14:54 GMT

In article <Bz34vE.Ay@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:

>>Are we talking an industry standard RAID 7 or a defacto standard?

>An *imaginary* standard.

Boy, THAT'S an understatement!

This guy's been hawking that product for months, so much so that I
wonder if Wang resells them or something.  Other than one article in a
trade rag someplace, I've never seen anything else on it in the press.

I already developed RAID 2001, btw. :-)

-dg-
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From: ben@speech.speech.Com (Ben Chigier)
Subject: Toshiba 3401 CDrom
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:29:56 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Integrated Speech Solutions
Followup-To: comp.periphs


Anyone out there know where I can buy a Toshiba 3401 CDrom?

Thanks in advance,

Ben...

ben@speech.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
From: nealo@netcom.com (Neal Ostrem)
Subject: Adaptec 2370 RLL Controller
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:32:57 GMT

I just purchased a used Adaptec ACB-2370 RLL Disk controller (Rev B?).
Unfortunately, no docs were available for it.  I looked at the ASCII
files on Adaptec's BBS on this line of controllers but none of the 
jumper definitions seem to correspond to the labels on the jumper of
my card.  Does anyone out there have the definitions for the following
jumpers?  The card is a Rev. B (I think!).


J5:   5 pairs of pins

J6:   8 pairs of pins

J7:   4 pairs of pins

J8:   3 single pins

J9:   4 pairs of pins

J10:  4 single pins (Interrupt level?)

J11:  4 single pins (Drive Activity LED connector?)

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs
From: bob@copi.cmhnet.org (Bob Williams)
Subject: IDE/ESDI coexistence?
Keywords: ide, esdi
Organization: Coordinated Office Programs
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:01:37 GMT


Hey netters,

I've got a clone 386dx33 (GV4383-33 motherboard) that has a clone IDE
controller (Silicon Valley Computers ADP-70).  I'm considering purchasing
an ESDI drive/controller combination (OMTI 8641 controller/Siemens 2300).
I have Win3.1 on one partition of the IDE drive, and ISC SysVr3v3.0 on another.

The question is:

Can an ESDI and an IDE controller peacefully coexist?  If so, how?

Any suggestions?

Bob

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From: tener@betty.cs.widener.edu (Stuart Tener)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
Subject: Re: SCSI archive files
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:15:56 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
NNTP-Posting-Host: betty.cs.widener.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

news@mgse.UUCP (News Administator) writes:
: 
: Last Changed:	Thu Sep 24 23:31:09 CDT 1992 (New BBS Phone number)
: 
: This is a periodic posting of information about some of the archives at
: ftp.cs.tulane.edu and the available files from the SCSI-BBS, including
: SCSI, ESDI, IPI, and Fiber Channel documents from the standards committees.
: 
: These files are available for FTP from ftp.cs.tulane.edu in the directory
: pub/scsi. Files are stored in file areas as they are found in the BBS with
: each area having a file named 'files.bbs' that tells what each file is. The
: file pub/scsi/index.Z list each file area, it's descriptions and it's files.

Mark:
	I indeed attempted to ftp something from ftp.cs.tulane.edu and
	got a message saying "Unknown host". Any ideas?

	thank you,

	stuart b. tener
	tener@cs.widener.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.arch.storage
From: Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich)
Subject: Re: Raid 7 Versus Earlier Raid 4
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:37:38 GMT

MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett") writes:

>Regarding availability of RAID 7, Dave Goldblatt at Clarkson University
>writes:


>Actually they've published a number of technical articles in the
>literature.  They seem to prefer to publish more technical material,
>rather than marketing blurbs.  There have been some recent, favorable
>reviews of their products in Corporate Technology Review, Open Systems
>Today, and iX magazine from Germany.  People interested could probably
>get copies by calling them at 603-880-3005.

I did the review for iX magazine. If you are interested in discussing
the details, please feel free to drop me an email.

Thomas
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From: j.laidman@cowan.edu.au (Jeremy Laidman)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
Subject: Address of Western Digital
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:02:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
Reply-To: j.laidman@cowan.edu.au (Jeremy Laidman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: scorpion.ac.cowan.edu.au


I purhcased a Paradise 8514/A combo card which is no good.  It has a 3 year
money-back guarantee but my local vendor tells me that Paradise went bust.
I've heard that Western Digital now owns Paradise.  Can anyone give me a
contact address and/or phone/fax so I can contact someone.

Thanks

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeremy Laidman, Analyst Programmer
School of I.T. and Mathematics                 Phone: (61 9) 370 6648
Edith Cowan University                         Fax:   (61 9) 370 2910
Perth, Western Australia                       j.laidman@cowan.edu.au
From: gary@.cs.pitt.edu.cs.pitt.edu (Gary Livingston)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
Subject: Need SETUP specs on Toshiba Hard Drive.
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:35:32 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Well gee, I feel real bright.  I have erased my CMOS settings for my
harddrive and of course, none of the preset SETUP settings fit.

Would someone please mail me the settings I need for my SETUP program
to set my CMOS.  The company who made my computer, 'PREMIER', seems to have
gone out of business.  If you have this info or know how I can get it, please
mail me.  My email address is: gary@cs.pitt.edu.  Its the end of the semester
crunch and I can't use my computer!!!.

Hard drive info:
	TOSHIBA
	LHD106-HD
	MK234FCF-1
	HDD3054JZZ01
	
THANKS IN ADVANCE,
Gary Livingston
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
From: dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold)
Subject: Re: SCSI archive files
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:08:33 GMT

From article <1gki9sINN142@cs.widener.edu>, by tener@betty.cs.widener.edu (Stuart Tener):
> 	I indeed attempted to ftp something from ftp.cs.tulane.edu and
> 	got a message saying "Unknown host". Any ideas?

Pinging host rex.cs.tulane.edu (ftp.cs.tulane.edu) : 129.81.132.1

It is rather slow to respond, and perhaps unknown by your mapper.
Try by number, late at night.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux
From: tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson)
Subject: Re: DMA on PC motherboards
Reply-To: tld@cosmos.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:33:54 GMT

In article <Bz3yB0.MC8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, darrylo@hpsrdmo.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata) writes:
|> Bohdan Tashchuk (zeke@fasttech.com) wrote:
|> 
|> > To a first approximation, you get what you pay for. If you buy the cheapest
|> > Tiawanese clone you can find, you deserve to have it fail bus mastering.
|> 
|>      I don't know if using cheap motherboards is the problem, but I
|> agree with the above quote.  I've been using a high-quality (read:
|> expensive) AMI motherboard -- where the ENTIRE motherboard, and not the
|> just BIOS, is made by AMI -- and I haven't had any DMA hardware problems
|> with my Adaptec 1542A.  I have had problems when multiple DMA bus
|> masters try to access the bus (causes memory refresh starvation,
|> resulting in parity errors), but this is a problem with the PC
|> architecture.
|> 
|>      -- Darryl Okahata
|> 	Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com
|> 
|> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
|> constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the
|> little green men that have been following him all day.

You *do* get what you pay for.  I build systems on the side, and have found,
without exception, that the `PC Chip' chipset is problematical.  All of my
suppliers have also confirmed this, and no longer stock boards with the
PC Chips chipset. 

Motherboards having the AMI bios and either the Chips and Technologies
chipset or the SIS chipset have never given me any problems, and have run
everything I`ve thrown at/on them (hardware of all types, UNIX, OS/2
Version 2.0 standard AND extended versions, Novell, DOS).

Hope this helps.



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From: jimp@trigraph.uucp (Jim Prall)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Paintjet -> pc to mac
Keywords: HP paintjet
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:26:02 GMT
Distribution: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Trigraph Inc.

[ Q: How to attach a parallel port equipped PaintJet printer to a Mac 
which has only serial?]
The company that has the longest standing making converters to do
mac-serial to parallel is
Orange Micro, Inc.
1400 Lakeview Ave.
Anaheim, CA 92807
1-714-799-2772
Products: The Grappler 9 Pin, The Grappler LS, The Grappler LX,
prices $99 to $199.
The major mac mailorder companies carry their products as I recall.
Be sure to confirm compatibility, versions, etc. 
You will need software printer drivers as well. These
might come with the Grappler - please inquire. 

Other potential sources are:
GDT Softworks, Point Roberts, WA, 1-604-291-9121 
    PrintLink Collection, $99 w/serial cable, or $199 w/parallel cable, 
Insight Development Corp, Emeryville, CA 1-415-652-4115
    MacPrint, for XxxxxJet printers, $149 retail

** NOTE: All 1991 prices, call for current info. **

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