HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Mr. G. Pickering)
Subject: Re: And another thing
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 12:48:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

RJ BELL (R.J.Bell@bradford.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov5.181931.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:
: >In article <1992Nov5.132940.5793@axion.bt.co.uk>, jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell) writes:
: >> alt.drugs cannot be read in the UK, you must read it via a link to the USA,
: 
:              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: News to me, I can read it here in Bradford!
: 
: Rob.


Very interesting! I only get alt.politics.drugs in Brum. Does Rob
have a feed which by-passes the UK "No Freedom of Speech" filter.
More importantly, does he have alt.sex and alt.pictures.erotica?

Guy

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From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Drugs
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:23:36 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

In article 1de3fgINNph0@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk, phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Chris Tilbury) writes:

>And COKE?!?!?! (No, I'm not ignorant - I'm just amazed anyone would
>consider this a recreational drug. Then again, maybe it's just me.....)
Not challenging your ethics - I respect your point of view - , but
coke is obviously recreational, because unless you're addicted there's
no other reason to take it and the only way you can become addicted
to these things is by taking them too much - why? - for recreational purposes!

>(Then again, I've never actually been to a "rave" as such. The idea of
>standing in the rain with 20,000 people getting muddy never struck me as
>being much fun. I'd rather pay to go in a nice warm, dry, safe club. :-> ) 
Wimp.

>And how many "I'm Bored/Beautiful" people are there, who spend all night at
>the side of the dance floor, with cigarette in one hand, slagging off everyone they >see....
Oh. I can't say I've seen much of this. Certainly not something you'd find in Aus.
The UK scene must indeed be sad these days.

>"Q:How many ravers does it take to change a light bulb?
> A:100 : 1 to change it, and 99 to moan about how much better the old one was."
Oh. Sad. Never mind, maybe Square Dancing will see a glorious comeback in the UK.

-Bunweasel
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 808 State Album / Meat Beat Manifesto
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:38:43 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <BxGo6J.5x3@dcs.ed.ac.uk> mhun@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Matthew Hunter) writes:
>	Has anybody heard the 3rd track on the cd single of oooops, namely
>'808091' (live). I don't know if I want to shell out for this seeing as I already
>have 2 of the 3 tracks on it.

guru sez:
	it's on the 12" of "ooops" too.

	If you've got 808:90, don't bother, 'cos 808091 is a mild rehash of
	Donkey Doctor with screaming audience samples on it and the "State
	8-0-8" bit out of "Fat Shadow" in the middle. Okay, but not their
	best.

	"Ski Family" is far more fun (the other track on the 12" single),
	and better than "ooops" too....

	I still have to hear a decent explanation of the release of "ooops".
	It's a fair enough album track, but it died a death with DJ's, which
	is why the two remixes were done. Shame they weren't much cop either
	and that they're virtually the same track.....(sigh)
-- 
      /~~~) /   / /~~~) /   /   
     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: ORB/777/others
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 20:57:09 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Edward Hilker) writes:

>> He's also released a collectors set of the Assassin 12" featuring two
>> 12" CD singles. 
>
> Too bad...my CD player only has room for about five inches. 

You should pick up a combi LD player . . . plenty of room for 12" CD-singles
in there! :-)

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jayson@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Asit B. Parikh)
Subject: DEF CON 1 Fri. Nov 13
Keywords: The bigest rave to hit the east coast!
Reply-To: nkp
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:17:47 GMT

	This will be the one true rave that will set the pace for all  
raves to come.  If you thought Future or Storm Rave was big wait till you  
see this.  Def Con 1 has the the best Dj line up the East coast has ever  
scene.  First is Frankie Bones, known as the east coast hardcore techno  
master.  Competing head on is "Doc Martin"  the west coasts premier Dj.   
When these two get together all hell is going to break lose.  But the  
intensity does not stop there.  After these two legends comes Keoki {NY's  
Disco 2000) and also Destructo (LA Recording artist} This is the first  
time that Doc Martain, keoki, and Destucto have ever played in the  
Washington DC area.  Other Dj's include the local talent of Dj Scott Henry  
(who has played at almost every single rave in the east coast) Jay P,  
Suzie Cyclone, and Bobble.(watch out for these three because the are hot)
After all this the energy still does not stop.  Performing live will be  
Fierce Ruling Diva. This Rave will take place on Friday November 13, 1992  
in Washington DC.  For tickets and Maps all Music now at 202-638-3272 or  
call 301-441-2924.  see you there. 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pimpster@next16pg2.wam.umd.edu (Toilet Duck)
Subject: utah saints??
Keywords: utah saints
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:00:52 GMT


The Utah Saints are touring?? Anyone hear if they are coming to the D.C.   
Baltimore area??  :(  *sigh*

thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.rave
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Subject: Announcement: Tech17 November Issue
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:11:09 GMT


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: eng350w1@beach.csulb.edu (Allen Boothe)
Subject: Southern California Raves Newsgroup 
Keywords: Rave Southern California
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: alt.rave
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:20:22 GMT

I sent out a message for some Raves in So. Cal on Haloween, and I got the
message and all, and info on who to talk to for the Southern California Rave
newsgroup, but it got lost, and I wondered if someone could re-send that inpho
over to me?   Thanks in advance!
   Allen
From: mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: e recipie -methylenedioxylmethamphetamine
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:08:58 GMT
Organization: should be a Uni!! Stuff the tories!!!

In article <1992Nov13.124214.1354@dct.ac.uk>, misd1cp@dct.ac.uk writes:
>                  BACK TO THE TECHNO-ONCE MORE-BACK TO THE TECHNO-HARDCOREE
> 
> 
> 
> Could someone please please please post the recipy/formulae for
> methylenedioxylmethamphetamine-aka e,xtc ect.
> Either to me,alt.rave or alt.drugs...as alt.drugs is blank where i come from...
> 

The reason alt.drugs is empty up here is because it is censored in Britian I 
think....no doubt someone will tell me if I am wrong....

> 
> party through space-time and matter
> 
> 
> tripper.
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From: cs125b55@dcl-nxt29.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student)
Subject: RAVES in Champaign-Urbana, IL?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:14:25 GMT

Are there raves in Champaign-Urbana, Illinois, other than Club Chi Psi?

						-D.O.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: more orbital ramblings
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:36:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov03.201611.2922@sco.com> jondr@sco.com writes:

>we've been having this discussion on sf-raves concerning just how pointless
>labels are anyway, so i'm in a picky mood.  the thought that someone will
>hear "the naked and the dead" and say "oh, that's tribal music, eh?  it
>sucks!" is depressing.

guru sez:
	right, my four-pen'orth.

	Orbital *never* "do" a different style of music. They pick what they
	like and re-interpret it, and it won't sound like anything else.
	
	I've refrained from posting on this for a while whilst I listened
	to my Orbital collection, and there is nothing that could be said 
	to "be" some other style:

	"Satan" is *not* industrial, although it picks up on some industrial
	themes.
	
	"Halcyon" is *not* trance, although it has trancey elements.

	"The Naked and The Dead/Dub" is *not* tribal house, even though
	it has a drum pattern that includes tribal sounds.

	If you listen to "Midnight", that has a very definite East Asian
	identity, but it's not part of some Chinese House style.

	"Choice" sounds like it could almost be rave, but it isn't.

	Trying to assess Orbital's music in terms of some other framework
	or labels and styles *is* pointless: you are hearing Orbital, nothing
	else. The same goes for the Orb, and a lot of other groups.

	Okay?
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     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mc Mars)
Subject: Re: KLF (was Re: Anybody...starting a KLF mailing list?)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:39:16 GMT

C_S02112@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Steven Eugene Benedict) writes:

>In <tq#qbb#@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu writes:

>> I've wanted to organize one for some time now but have been unable to
>> arrange a site to run it from.  If anyone can offer the setup, I'd be
>> happy to maintain it.
>> 
>> --
>> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

>	Okay, I must admit I know little about the KLF, like they remixed
>DM's "policy of truth" and they do "what time is love?", and the have an
>ambient album called "chill out"....I know, its sad...but I did read in select
>that they are now defunct and, if I'm not mistaken, they burned *all* of their
>master tapes...is this true?  If so, why is there a need for a group about
>the KLF?  This is not meant as a flame, I'm just ill-informed and curious.

Well, they are apparently now defunct, although nobody is sure if they
will or will not get back together. And they didn't burn all of their master
tapes - they burned their '1987' albums, after they had to remove them
from the market (due to legal reasons). 

Anyway, although KLF did delete their own pressings when they split, they
are still under contract through other countries' record companies, such
as Arista, Festival, BlowUp, Coma etc so you'll still be seeing KLF stuff
on the shelves for a good while at least.

As for why there should be a need for a mailing list; heaps of people
are into KLF, and heaps of people still have a lot of things to talk
about. If I asked you "where do I find a copy of the original 1987?" would
you know where to look? Or what about "What does KLF stand for?". The
mailng list would obviously be for general discussion, tips for getting
rare records, rare set sales, etc.

And the second big reason why there should be a mailing list - it would
be an Orb mailing list too, and I'm sure they're still pretty current.

w
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: trailmix@cs.montana.edu (Foster)
Subject: Re: ~~~ predictable ~~~ predictable ~~~
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 04:14:20 GMT

In article <Bx3KIv.1tL@brunel.ac.uk> cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (Benjamin Middleton) writes:
>
>
>
>I am becoming increasingly disheartened by the alt.rave group.
>Perhaps I am simply being too peticular, but the majority of
>articles received are always so predictable.
>
>Why so much information on the orb? Sure they are worthy of
>praise, but it becomes very tedious reading the same comments
>and ideas each day.
>
>I wish I could offer incentives for people to broaden their
>thoughts. I would like to see more people sending in relevant
>and new material. Perhaps this is the wrong group to be
>involved in.
>
>Call me a total lord if you must, but why is it that people
>who contribute (such as guru) only ever return viewpoints
>but never suggest new lines of interest for the group.
>
>Perhaps I don't understand the purpose of these newsgroups.
>I simply don't find the group very informative (and what is 
>there is very limited).
>
>Also, is the US so locked into their tastes that they just
>refuse to talk about anything except local raves. I am
>being unfair here - I have many excellent chums in the US
>who contribute - I simply get plumed off now and again.
>
>The idea of an alt.uk.rave is wrong, but it is annoying
>for us pompous brits to read about the same old US tunes.
>Let us see some more input from the whole of the United
>Kingdom - then the balance would be less biased towards
>American tastes.      
>
>I will no doubt receive loads of hate E mail (and the
>emphasis is definately not on E) because of my thoughts.
>I simply need to read less predictable ramblings. 
>
>What do the other uk contributors think? What is the general
>consensus of opinion?
>
>
>-- 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>~~~ cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hx-pro ~~~
>~~~ ben middleton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bass mechanic ~~~
>~~~ drn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ pattern avenger ~~~
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ever heard of a kill file, jerk-off?  Someone obviously needs
to send this chap a copy of the FAQ.  Events are valid for
discussion.  I live in friggin' Montana, which is just about
as far away from the raves often posted as you are, and I am
not an Orb fan (yet) having never heard any of their work, 
yet I still gleen plenty of information from our little newsgroup.
The point is, your whining drivel is wasting more bandwidth than
all of the other posts combined.  Maybe everyone on here is not 
posting stuff you want to hear about like your chums, but it IS 
America, you know, free speech and all that.
End of tirade.
Could someone please email or post a review of Kaos Theory 4, as I
will be receiving it soon and would like to know what I'm in for.
Thanks in advance.
-- 

Slade Foster   Montana State Univ.   trailmix@fubar.cs.montana.edu
From: mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: KWS vs Double-You
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:10:54 GMT
Organization: should be a Uni!! Stuff the tories!!!

In article <1992Nov6.123024.21887@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:
> Can someone please explain the KWS / Double-You "Please Don't Go"
> confusion?  Same song, two artists.  What's the deal?
> -- 
> Mike Brown
> mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> "The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."

Good to see you also posted this to rec.music.....that where is should be!!!

Basically they are both crap and camp......be original!!!!!!

As for your question.....why not????
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From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Subject: hey.  it's e
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:16:56 GMT

Here is the recipe.  The formatting might be slightly off due to the
crappy editor.  Let me know how your micro-rave goes...

And let me know if I can have a dose or two when you make it.  :-)

Manufacture of "Ecstacy"
from Chemical Abstracts 52, 11965 (1958)

For Informational Purposes Only.  The authors & distributors
do not advocate the use of illegal drugs and assume no liability
for the use or misuse of this information . The procedures described
are dangerous and should not be attempted by persons inexperienced
in Organic Laboratory techniques.

This formula is exemplified for MDA (3,4-Methylenedioxy-
phenylisopropylamine); substituting N-methyl formamide
results in MDMA or N-methyl MDA (Ecstacy).

To a cooled mixture of 34 g 30% H2O2 and 150 g formic acid, add
dropwise a solution of 32.4 g (0.2M) isosafrole in 120 ml acetone,
(keep temperature below 30 degrees)  Let stand twelve hours and
evacuate in vacuum.  Add 60 ml methanol and 369 g 15% sulfuric
acid to the residue and heat on a water bath three hours.  Cool,
extract with ether or benzene and evaporate in vacuum the extract
to give 20 g 3,4,-methylenedioxybenzylmethyl ketone.

Add 23 g of above ketone to 65 g formamide and heat at 190 degrees
for five hours.  Cool, add 100 ml H2o2, extract with benzene and
evaporate in vacuum the extract.  Add 8 ml methanol and 57 ml 15%
HCL to residue, heat on water bath two hours and evaporate in
vacuum (or basify with KOH and extract the oil with benzene and dry,
evaporate in vacuum) to get 11.7 g MDA.

The above occurs as a yellowish brown oil;  this is active orally,
but somewhat inconvenient; to convert to powder (salt) form, reflux
in Hydrochloric acid and evaporate.

Safrole, an allyl benzene, occurs naturally in oil of sassafras,
about 70%. Can be extracted with simple distillation. It is con-
verted to isosafrole (a propenyl benzene) by adding equal weight
of KOH flakes and absolute ethanol and heating on steam bath or
refluxing for 24 hours; dried and evaporated in vacuum or added
with two time its volume in water and extracted with ether or
methylene chloride and dried, evaporated in vacuum.  Hexane is used
for recrystalization.

Formamide and N-methyl formamide are closely watched by the DEA.
Many people have been busted by small suppliers where it was easy
to get; those are "sting" operations that tail the buyer home.

Show this to one of your Chem major pals.



There ya have it.  Have fun... any time you come into some x-cess X, let
me know....
-i.

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206.432.6904

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Meat Beat Manifesto/Communion Tour in Salt Lake
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:45:12 GMT

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			     Meat Beat Manifesto
				   Orbital
				 Ultramarine
				       
			      The Communion Tour
				       
		    Tony Fletcher and other Communion DJ's
		     MC's Neville Wells and Dave Kendall
				   XDZebra
				       
			November 18th, Salt Lake City
				       
				  8014613375
				       
			       $15  No Alcohol
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: 808 >[DA[DState
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:38:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.034152.17152@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rojohnso@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
>Anyone get 808 state's new album, wasnt it supposed to be out today?? reviews??
>
>                                              RJ

guru sez:
	news to me. I'll go and check the record stores...

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     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave in Cincinnati Nov 20
Keywords: computer games+music industry=?
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:13:33 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <1992Nov8.234611.23219@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:
>Lighting by Scotto... 12x12 Sega Genesis Video Wall
>starring Sonic the Hedgehog
	  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^my hero!
guru sez:
	soory to bring computer games in here, but I think I've just found
	some proof that Sonic is a game character for the more mature 
	person who just finds the Mario Bros. a pain in the butt.....

	BTW, folowing on from the cruddy "Super Marioland" record brought out
	by The Ambassadors of Funk and the dire "Tetris" from Dr Spin, Sega
	have decided to hit out and bring out a track based around Sonic,
	which BBC's Dance Energy said would be called "SuperSonic"....here's
	hoping it's as good as the game soundtrack...
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      /~~~) /   / /~~~) /   /   
     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc