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From: datta@wheatena.berkeley.edu (Ruchira Datta)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:07:48 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: wheatena.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec15.142644.17875@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>In article 21913@ptdcs2.intel.com, lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com (Loyde Hales ~) writes:
>> in different scenes) have one commonality: they were all filmed on a sound
>> stage built for the movie.  The apartment building "on location" is only used
>> for OUTSIDE shots, as is common in movies.
>
>bzzzt. sorry . but that isnt the case. 
>The Exorcist's bedroom was a dorm room at Fordham University.

A bit off-topic, but a strange example:

Whoopi Goldberg's latest movie (actually, I'm not sure whether it's been
released yet) is supposed to take place on Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley.
So - do they film the movie on Telegraph Avenue?  No.  Do they construct
a set in their studio?  No.  Instead, they move one block over to College
Avenue, and spend gobs of money making it *look* like Telegraph Avenue.
I know there must be a reason for it (permits, getting someone to let
the film crew use their store) but it still seems rather bizarre to me.

-- Ruchira
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: rhadden@isdres.er.usgs.gov
Subject: RE: Animal Ghosts?
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:30:34 GMT

There are many tales of animal ghosts, not all of which were/are pets. In
several places in France there are tales of a large black horse that appears
then disappears. A class of animal spirits in Ireland are called Pooka(s).
Some of the spirits of Ba'al and familiars of Ifrits in Arabic appear as
flies (insect ghosts?). (This is in Arabic folklore, which is not necessarily
the same as Moslem folklore).
        The spirit or Ka of dung beetles (scarabs) were supposed to re-appear
in the afterlife, and so some were embalmed and placed in the pyramids and
tombs of the Pharoahs et al. Bulls, cats, and other animals were also
entombed by the Egyptians along the Nile and in other cultures. Whether they
were pets or not is a matter of conjecture rather than of knowledge, I should
think.
        Demonic spirits were supposed to live with witches in europe and
North America, and in some of the witch hunts of the 17th century, I remember
reading about some of the animals being executed along with their masters, and
there were several tales of "witches' huts" that were haunted by the
dogs and cats of these people after the human witches were killed.
        There was an exceptionally fine story, the citiation I have since
lost, about a man placed in an insane asylum. Periodically he would hear
a growling snarl behind him, and when he turned around, a large, black dog
would leap at his throat, only to disappear just before the fangs reached his
skin. This happened so often, and was so startling, that his nerves just
gave out. A psychologist at the asylum recognized this as a curse placed
on the man by a magician, and made up a ceremony to have the dog return to
his master. Very shortly the man was cured, and as he was leaving the asylum
his neighbor was brought in, claiming that he was being attacked by a large
dog no one else could see...
From: ada@zip.larc.nasa.gov (Anthony Arviola)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Ghost communicating with children
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:47:24
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM's message of 18 Dec 1992 17:30:46 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: b02c80ebfce02a498b553be208d3e7eb

I'm not really aquainted with Phillipine folklore (my dad is from there) but 
I think that they believe that your ghost hangs around for 30-40 days before
going onward.  My dad's best friend, Sonny, died last year.  He was a very 
funny, lively person.  Just after his death, my nephew, then five, would
be caught by my mom talking and playing by himself.  When my mom asked him
who he was talking to, he said, "oh, I'm just playing with Sonny".  This
along with some of the stories his widow has told (Sonny was a great prankster)
makes me say "hmmmmmm".

Good day,
Tony
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Phantom Ship Inquiry
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:30:53 GMT

In article 1@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov, ibc@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov () writes:
> In article <BzFwp4.CMz@world.std.com>, rjc@world.std.com (Richard J Callahan) writes:
> > 
> >  I am researching phantom ship legends and sightings along the New
> > England coast, concentrating especially on the areas of Casco Bay and
> > Penobscot Bay in Maine. 
> > 
> 
> I seem to remember hearing something about a large naval ship, maybe a 
> battleship, "disappearing" temporarily in the Philadelphia ship yards.  I
> don't recall when this was supposed to have happened.  Can anyone fill 
> in the details?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 


watching movies again huh. the Philadelphia experiment is the name of the movie
which is supposed to be based on fact.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: Re: Phantom Ship Inquiry
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:18:02 GMT

The teleporting ship is not all UL. There seems to be a grain of truth
in it.

during WWII, when the Manhattan Project was started, several other "city"
projects were also started (supposadly - I am getting my info from the 
concensus that a.f.u reached about a year ago).
The reason for these other projects was mainly as camoflage.
The one that you are thinking of was the Philladelphia project, having
something to do w/ putting an electric pulse through the ships hull to 
somehow interfere w/ a torpedo's sonar (or something like that)

many years later, a movie was put out called the "Philladelphia Experiment"
about a teleporting ship & how this drove the crew insane.

And thus grew the UL.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: gundlach@helena.stat.uga.edu (Michael Gundlach)
Subject: Re: Need good Ghost Stories
Organization: UGA Statistics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:12:47 GMT

In article <1h4qadINNe3s@male.EBay.Sun.COM> warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon) writes:
%_Hello everyone, I have only been on this network for 3 weeks now and read
%_many good stories and comments.  I know there are alot of stories I have
%_not heard of because I am new to this network.  But can you guys send me
%_some good stories that you already told but through email, this way you
%_won't bore people with old stories.
%_
%_email replies preferred for old stories 
%_
%_gee thanx
Mee Toooooooo! Mee Tooooooo! 
%_
%_Dave
%_		


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*-:^) *** Mike Gundlach        * "No, please, call me, 'Wonko the Sane'.
* gundlach@helena.stat.uga.edu.*  Goodbye, and Thanks For all the Fish
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From: chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Animal Ghosts?
Date: 26 Dec 1992 08:21:18 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <60000004@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Tony Zugates) writes:
[......]
>
>I did talk to someone who claims to have been in an empty room painting
>and see a cat walk across the room.. like out of one wall into the other.

Hmm.. The Cat Who Walks Through Walls... =)
Wasn't that a book by Heinlein?

Chua
+==+
From: pxf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Pranath Fernando)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Are they on alt.alien.visitors ??
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:17:38 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham

Just a little proposition, and perhaps a lttle healthy paranoia .....

IF (and of course only if) aliens are already here,

And if some of them are impersonating humans, perhaps in areas of intrest such as
high tech research, etc.... perhaps they even have access to e-mail, and news..
perhaps they discover the newsgroup alt.alien.visitors...and think 'ooh lets
have a look'. Perhaps some of them may even send a message or two ?

I've broken my silence !

It's about time....

Well if i suddenly don't send any messages... you know John Winston has sent the
'Men in Black' round to sort me out ! (Sorry John ! - just a little joke, I think
your stuff is ace, honest !).

But seriously.....

Just believe me ...... (if there's any humans reading this - that is) we are not
alone in this universe , we are being watched, right now, and there's very little
we can do...except wait.

Though, awareness is'nt bad is it ? (Perhaps it is.....)

Well it's too late this is sent now..... damn the consequences !
(Believe me it's not the flames I'm thinking of !)

Anyway i'm probably too insignificant to bother 'dealing with ' !

(I am, honest !).

from,

    Pierre
    --x---

(The name I go by - don't ask why, it'll take AGES !)
 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Las Vegas UFO Congress
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:45:15 GMT


If one of you people out there went the Las Vegas UFO Congress a couple
of weeks ago, could you
please post a blurb on a few speakers that most rocked the crowd, and what
they had to say?

There was one speaker that is supposed to have a company that contracts
out to do "remote-viewing" for government and industry. That would be
interesting to hear about, and also what Wendle Stevens had to say.

I think there are many of us here that would truly be indebted to you.
thanks,

Jeff-
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: unglenie@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: This Group
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:32:37 GMT

Rick Eames writes:
>I was under the impression that this group existed to discuss UFO's.  I
>have never understood why people who don't particularly find UFO's a
>reality feel it necessary to crash in and clutter up the group with their
>drivel.  It's annoying and it detracts from the real reason this group
>exists: to SERIOUSLY discuss UFO's.  

But would you exclude people who do NOT believe in other-worldly critters
but CAN seriously discuss the alleged UFO's?

Rob U
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From: curmi@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Jamie Paul CURMI)
Subject: Everyone Listen-up!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:06:26 GMT

Hi Guys!

Not long ago I said goodbye to this group, and quite a few people mailed me
to convince me to return.  Well, I'm back (for those who are interested)...
and I've got a few things I want to make perfectly clear!

With regards to JW and friends....  He is the cause of so many people
wanting to leave this group.  There are two possible reasons for this:

1) He is being paid to destroy this group, and make as many of us leave as
   possible
2) He is a giant DICK-WAD!

I personally believe it is number 2.

WHAT WE SHOULD DO is to *totally* ignore him and his friends.  Don't even
respond or read his articles, or anything related to him (apart from this
article! ;-)  He is really destroying this group, and destroying the really
good articles that are floating around here.

JW if you are reading, please stop posting all your unrelated crap to this
group.  If it doesn't involve Aliens or UFO's, you shouldn't even be posting
here!  Get a life and stop ruining serious research with your total and utter
bull shit.

I'm glad I got that out of my system....not that JW would listen!  It's a
free world.  We even let the mentally deficient have a say! ;-)

Special thanks to Len Bucuvalas....much appreciated, my friend.

Let's see some serious posts again!

Jamie
(apologies for the obscenities...but I am pretty pissed off!)

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         The University of Melbourne, Parkville, Victoria, Australia            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Serious Questions
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:49:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	nnelson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas P Nelson) writes:
	Is there a consensus that there is a lack of hard evidence?
	If there is not a consensus then where or what is the hard
	evidence?

...I have no idea if there is a consensus, but one reason there isn't
much hard evidence is because evidence is squirreled away by the
government.

   For instance, the object (whatever it was) that crashed at Roswell
in 1947 was taken in its entirety away from the crash site and sent to
various places (WPAFB, others).  It was called a radar-targeting
balloon (or weather balloon) -- but a few days earlier a balloon of
the type described landed in Ohio and was completely ignored by the
military (the guy who found it was allowed to keep it.)  If the
whatever-it-was could be examined by you and me, we'd know what it
was, but we can't.  Why?

   Likewise the 1965 Keckburg, Pa. object (whatever *it* was) was
whisked away by the Air Force; we can't look at it.  Why?

   Sometimes the existance of evidence was never made known, for
instance gun-camera footage from aircraft intercepting objects
(whatever they are).  "... reports of unidentified flying objects
which could affect the national security" (whatever that means) "are
made in accordance with JANAP 146 or Air Force Manual 55-11 and are
not part of the Blue Book system" (memo from USAF Brig. Gen. Bolender,
1969).  Even the "Blue Book" files are therefore incomplete - on
purpose.

... so the playing field is not exactly level.  Try picking up "Clear
Intent", by Fawcett and Greenwood, 1984, or "Above Top Secret", by
Good, 1988 (recently reprinted in paperback) to get started.

Charles
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: This Group
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:55:13 GMT

In article <athos-161292103310@kip2-42.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>I was under the impression that this group existed to discuss UFO's.

Not exactly, a UFO could be anything, the group name is -alt.alien.visitors-.

> I have never understood why people who don't particularly find UFO's a
>reality feel it necessary to crash in and clutter up the group with their
>drivel.  

It's an alt group, we will all just have to live with that. Really, it
is no problem to skip over posts or posters you do not like.

>              It's annoying and it detracts from the real reason this group
>exists: to SERIOUSLY discuss UFO's.  

That is not the reason for this group, and confusion such as this are part
of the reason for the noise. Feel free to propose alt.UFO if you really see
the need.
 
>Why do people like Winston feel it necessary to do this?
>
>******************************************************************************
>Rick Eames                               My Opinions Are My Own (not
>Apple's)
>athos@apple.com
>Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Boxer.
>******************************************************************************


Rich

payner@netcom.com


Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (TheLrdLovsAHngn)
Subject: Re: question!
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:45:05 GMT

Roman,

yes, we see you (your post, actually).
-- 
Disclaimer:  I didn't do it!  Nobody saw me do it!  You can't prove anything! 
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From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: January 3, 1993
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:04:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Michael,

Will PARANET be making the audio transcripts available to those of us whom
do not access to the Satellite feed?

Then again, mabye we could have JW warm up his astral train & transcribe it
for us;->

Let us know Michael.

Rod


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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: "roman andruszko" <roman.andruszko@canrem.com>
Subject: question!
Reply-To: "roman andruszko" <roman.andruszko@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:29:21 EST

TO: James.Porter@mechanic.fidonet.org

JP>Can anyone in USENET land see this post?  I am doubting my postings are
JP>making it through my local gateway.  Any comments back indicating that
JP>you have seen this would be much appreciated.

I've seen. I've read. I've responded. !!!!!!
TTYL

                         
                          Roman Andruszko 
                         
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: aph016@cch.coventry.ac.uk (ozzy)
Subject: Whitley Strieber (What is he up to)
Organization: Coventry University, Coventry, UK.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:37:00 GMT

I am currently in the middle of reading Communion, the 'celebrated'
book by Whitley Strieber. I was wondering what you guys out there
thought to all this, if you have any thoughts about it at all.
Email or posting, I'll try and read them, when I am on next (which
may not be for quite a while)

Merry Christmas, solstice, whatever!

ozzy

ps. Sorry if this has been done to death in the past, I didnt read it then
From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: RE: ENUF IS ENUF. TIME FO
Date: 30 Dec 92 11:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 


-> FROM: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
-> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
-> Subject: Re: Enuf is enuf. Time for a moderated group...
-> Message-ID: <15254.2b3fa8e4@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
-> Date: 29 Dec 92 01:24:52 EST
-> References: <1hnopiINNg3u@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
-> Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

-> Incidentally, I don't have rn and my news reader doesn't have a kill
-> option, so I am stuck wading through nonsense to try to find an
-> intelligent (well, at least interesting :) thread...

Here here!  I don't have software with a killfile either.  I godddamn
sick of hearing "Put it in your killfile" everytime somebody complains
about something on Usenet.  Its rather like being an ostrich and
sticking your head in the sand even if you do have a killfile!!!!
                                                                                  
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,alt.paranormal,sci.skeptic
From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: re: factual basis of action at a distance in voodoo
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:55:42 GMT


Please present documented evidence of action-at-a-distance occuring that
can not be explained by psychological effects upon the person or persons
being acted on.  I have never seen such evidence, and if you have some
I would enjoy seeing it.  It would be especially instructive to see a
case where it was demonstrated under controlled conditions, with an
expert in trickery being in attendence.
--
Seth J. Bradley, Senior System Administrator, Intel SCIC
Internet: sbradley@scic.intel.com   UUCP: uunet!scic.intel.com!sbradley

Seth has taken my remarks somewhat out of its originally humorous and
satiric context in my flamatory reply to D Wolff's flame against me.
I was being rhetorical not scientific - though I think real voodoo etc
may actually be possible - certainly most of its effects are psychological.
If my physics turns out to be essentially correct we will be able to build
machines that show controlled action at a distance - but that's a big if
.. and I am working on it.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: UNMUTH@BEATE.RZ.FH-ULM.DE ((...))
Subject: Re: Check this out...
Organization: FHU
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:04:43 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22


JOHN WINSTON is DEAD .... thanx to my KILLFILE.

I think it did a pretty good job or didn't JW post any mail
within the last 48 hours !?!?!?!???

Anyway, I DON'T MISS HIS MAIL !!!


Merry Christmas and a happy new one ..


Heiko
From: newkid@utopia.hacktic.nl (newkid)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Check this out...
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 18:34:10 GMT
Organization: U.T.O.P.I.A.

> JOHN WINSTON is DEAD .... thanx to my KILLFILE.
> 
> I think it did a pretty good job or didn't JW post any mail
> within the last 48 hours !?!?!?!???
> 
> Anyway, I DON'T MISS HIS MAIL !!!
> 
> 
> Merry Christmas and a happy new one ..
Well son I think you don't lnow what Xmas is all about, see JW may be a 
bit load but hell would I miss him.

Greetings -Newkid

 ---
newkid@utopia.hacktic.nl (newkid)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Subject: Semi-moderated newsgroup idea
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Summary: just a thought
Reply-To: alt.alien.visitors
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:59:18 GMT

An idea about the proposal to create a new moderated group to replace AAV.

What could be done is to create a "semi-moderated" newsgroup.  It would work
like a normal moderated group, but with the following extensions:

The moderator can create a file of "autoapproved" users, whose articles
will go to the newsgroup w/o further intervention.  This will allow those
posters articles to speedily enter the discussion.

Likewise, the moderator can create a "dump" file of users whose articles
will be sent to /dev/null without ever being read.

The software could also be set up to reject postings below a certain threshold
of size (since so many of the "bad" postings are <10 lines).  These postings
may/may not trigger the sending of an email explaining the rejection.

The moderator would then have to read all the other posts, and approve/reject
on a set of criteria.  Once a poster has a certain number of "approved" 
postings, the modeerator should add them to the "autoapproved" process.
The criteria should be set down by the readership during the RFD stage.

-Coyt



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