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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Stanford Women's 1992-93 Schedule
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 06:39:22 GMT


1992-93 Schedule of the Stanford Cardinal Women,

				DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION,
	a.k.a
		HOME OF THE HEMMER.

						(worship Tara now!)

Fri, Nov 20	  Belgium National Team
Tue, Dec 1	  Texas Tech
Fri-Sun,	\/Hawaii Tourbament
     Dec 4-6	/\@ Honolulu, HI
Mon, Dec 21	@ Tennessee
Wed, Dec 30	@ Long Beach
Sat, Jan 2	@ San Diego
Tue, Jan 5	  Texas
Thu, Jan 7	@ Oregon State		(START PAC-10 SEASON)
Sat, Jan 9	@ Oregon
Fri, Jan 15	  Cal
Mon, Jan 18	@ USC
Thu, Jan 21	  USC
Sat, Jan 23	  UCLA
Thu, Jan 28	@ Washington State
Sat, Jan 30	@ Washington
Thu, Feb 4	  Arizona
Sat, Feb 6	  Arizona State
Fri, Feb 12	@ Cal
Thu, Feb 18	@ UCLA
Sat, Feb 20	@ Connecticut		(NON-CONF)
Thu, Feb 25	  Washington
Sat, Feb 27	  Washington State
Thu, Mar 4	@ Arizona State
Sat, Mar 6	@ Arizona
Thu, Mar 11	  Oregon
Sat, Mar 13	  Oregon State

... and, taking a page from obnoxious Duke fans, let's also list:

Wed, Mar 17	  NCAA Tounament - 1st round
Sat, Mar 20	  NCAA Tounament - 2nd round
Th/Sa, Mar 25/27  NCAA West Regionals @ Missoula, MT
Sa/Su, Apr, 3/4	  NCAA Final Four @ Atlanta, GA
From: burgin@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Robert Burgin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Livingston to LSU?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:50:04 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <Btu02r.I6J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jwag9429@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John Wilbur Althauser) writes:
>  Why LSU? They may not win everything people pick them for, but
>  #1 high school prospects go in , and they leave as # 1 NBA 
>  draft picks.   What more could Livingstone want?

	Has this happened more than once for LSU?

	In fact, was Shaq the # 1 high school prospect when
	he entered LSU?  If not, who was?  And where was
	Shaq ranked?

	--rb
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara)
Subject: Re: Ohio State - Michigan B-Ball
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:14:54 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

>Sounds like you'll have a new rag to wipe the snow off your car in frigid
>(both kinds of frigid) Ann Arbor come next march!
>

Do I sense some sour grapes? Michigan will win another championship!!!
There are few teams that can match their depth....
	maybe Duke, maybe Indiana, possibly Kansas....Kentucky

But not Ohio State! They're done....still choking from last year... ;)

						Marty
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Upcoming Kuppenheimer Classics
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:50:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <19386@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>
>What's the big idea, actually getting real teams to play in a
>preseason classic?  Don't you southern folks know that you're supposed
>to invite three patsies?  Just look at the Hoosier, Boilermaker, ...
>"Classics."
>
>You keep this up, and you're going to give hoops a bad name.

Steve, do you mean patsies like University of Wisconsin-Green Bay?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Test your Final 4 knowledge
Date: 4 Sep 1992 14:55:54 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <715538824@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
|In article <Bu0Cvq.392@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
|>
|>	OK -- here's a test for all U netters out there.
|>	Name the starting 5 for the NCAA Champions for the last 10
|>	years -- and by position.  For example:
|
|I'll try:
|
|Villanova 1985: Pickney-F, McClain-G, ?? ?? ??
Jensen-G, McLain-F, Pressley-F  
(Pinckney was the center)

|Georgetown 1984: Ewing -C, Williams - G ?? ?? ??
Wingate - G, Jackson - G, the feared Graham/Martin combo - F  
(Williams was small forward)
Jeez, those were the days for Georgetown.  What talent!
BTW, I heard Rashad Wallace is going to commit to Georgetown.
Speaking as a Villanova fan, I am not happy.  First Rollie, now this!

|
|Well, I knew a little bit.
|-- 
Can't say I remember much more...

Rick
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Test your Final 4 knowledge
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2LAw.IvH
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>	Actually, that (1982-83) was the year that the ACC had the `ridiculous'
>3-point distance of 17'7" (I think) measured from the backboard, as well as a
>30-second shot clock.  It is my belief that these rules (in ACC play) led State
>to develop its outside-in offensive style, where Gannon and Whittenburg would
>bomb from outside, opening up the inside for Bailey and Charles.  I think 
>State won their last conference game that year by some absurd margin (like 50
>pts.).

	That's right -- that was the year the ACC had that 3-pt line.  I
	seem to remember that in that season, it was the 1st time that a
	freshman (a little kid named Mark Price of Georgia Tech) ended up
	leading the ACC in scoring.  I wonder why... :)

	Jazzy J
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From: dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Shaq's impact
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:13:29 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <715440397@termite.cs.duke.edu> db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>
>Even Robinson lead Navy to the round of eight as a virtual one
>man team. Shaq never even gotten close.
>
>Give me one reason to believe that he will do for his pro
>team what he couldn't do for his college.
>
>Dov
>-- 

Because he will have some players around him that can actually play, a little!
		
						Dennis Joyce
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Dwayne Fontana
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:09:22 GMT

Well the carnage continues at Arizona State. Junior swingman Dwayne
Fontana has been suspended following his arrest for an alleged sexual
assault. 

With Ronaldson back in Australia, Bennett out for the year(was is
the ACL?), and Faulkner's status up in the air, Frieder may have
trouble putting 5 guys on the court this year.




Russ Smith
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Shorten conference schedules (was Re: Cream-puffiness)
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:45:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Sep2.114519.14773
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Sep2.134238.21192@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> jfw1@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (james.f.whitehead) writes:
>
>Since the NCAA selection guys pay close attention to strngth of schedule,
>teams that use ALL those games to play St. Leo would join Evansville
>and Wisconsin-BF on the sidelines with 20-7 records.

I know I am asking for trouble here, but what does the "BF" in
"Wisconsin-BF" stand for?  :^)  :^)  :^)

Green Bay has over 100,000 people in its immediate area, and although that
is no metropolis by any means (way too small for an NFL team, but that is
another issue), it is a larger area than metro-Bloomington,  metro-Iowa
City, metro-College Park, etc...  It is about the same size as Lafayette.
Wait, "Wisconsin-BF" might be appropriate after all...

[Wisconsin-BF??  Could that be Wisconsin at Black River Falls? Hmmmmmmm...]
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Dwayne Fontana
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:43:16 GMT

gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>  This is pretty good - I like the way wild Bill coaches
> up there in Tempe.  He is at least bringing a little class
> to what we commonly refer to as "That sewage site outside
> Phoenix".

     I take it then, Gary, that we are all to
take your posting as a lesson in "class"?

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Purdue Basketball Schedule
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:23:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hey Randy,

I've lost your e-mail address so I'm forced to post this request
here on the net.  I can't find a copy of my Purdue schedule ans
I was wondering if you (or anybody else) could repost it or e-mail
me a copy of it. 

Thanks,

			ashamded to make this request --- Mark
From: joep@angelo.amd.com (Joseph Pawletko)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cream-puffiness
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:40:09 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:


>One name that has popped up as a replacement is UNC-Charlotte's Jeff Mullins.
                                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^  
COOL!!!!!  I'd like to see how this guy would coach in the ACC.

>Robert Clough, DUMC (though certainly not speaking for them)
>	"I'm all sixes and sevens and nines."--M.Jagger


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Cream-puffiness
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: rec
Date:  2 Sep 92 16:36:30 GMT

Don't forget UCLA.  Aside from the weak Pac-10 schedule, last year
the Bruins play such cupcakes as Indiana (twice), Louisville,
Notre Dame and Duke.  They only went 2-3 against these patsies, too.

Actually, I bring up the Bruins for a reason (I *always* have a reason).
They "have" to play a few of the local Cal State and UC teams every year.  
In fact, there's a fair amount of political pressure for them to play 
*more* games against these opponents.  Teams like Fullerton, Long Beach,
Irvine and San Diego.  Other schools, like Michigan State, have a fair 
number of such obligations as well.

I guess Georgetown feels some obligation to play the St. Leos of the world.
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
               		This time, *with* the oys
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner)
Subject: Re: Bench Depth
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:26:00 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>
>>Yeah, but...Those aformentioned three starters plus a whole host
>>of reserves were good enough to overwhelm the Big10's best at
>>the Final Four last season. The two seniors of last year's team
>>had very little impact on the FF. Brian Davis went down early
>>in the Indiana game and C. Laettner was horrible, especially
>>against Michigan. 
>>I wouldn't go as far as saying that we won't miss those two
>>but this team has plenty of talent left.
>
>	There's a lot of talent yet, but I do think Duke will miss Davis
>	and Laettner greatly this season.  Let's not just look at the final
>	4 -- Laettner and Davis carried the team all season.

Jazzy, I can't believe that somebody in the know as you would overlook Hurley
and Grant Hill like that.  Laettner had some real boner games last year, and
were it not for Hurley & Hill stepping up, the Devils might have lost more
than just those two games last season.  Hurley also kept them in the IU game
*single-handedly*, while Alan Henderson really had his hands full with Hill.
If Cherokee Parks steps up this season and Duke can find another Billy King
in its program to provide Davis' D, Laettner's loss won't hurt the team this
year as much as Hurley's departure will next year.

>       And, against
>	Michigan, Laettner did step it up in the 2nd half to lead Duke to
>	victory.  The Devils will miss Laettner no matter what, however.
>	Last season, he was really their only inside threat, and because
>	of his versatility, the opposing center was often taken out of the
>	game defensively.  This year's team really doesn't have that sort
>	of player.  Also, Laettner was THE man in the clutch.  Witness
>	the Kentucky game if none other.  Anyways, while Duke will continue
>	to thrive on the team they have now -- they will miss the 2 seniors.

Hurley and Hill will step to the forefront. Parks can and will produce in the
middle, with Meek to back him up, and Thomas Hill, Tony Lang, and some of the
frosh will add some D and some spark. I see another Final Four.

An aside: Is it just me, or is this the first time in many a year that all
four of last year's Final Four teams have a truly legitimate shot at returning
the following season?
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: wrl@pmafire.inel.gov (William Lechner)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:29:03 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: What happened to Porter Roberts?
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: na
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

In article <1992Aug25.195640.26387@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> erwinc@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Christopher S. Erwin) writes:
>The back to school edition of the Purdue Exponent has a lengthy
>article on the new basketball recruits, but fails to make mention 
>of Porter Roberts.  Did something happen to his recruiting status?
>I realize that the Excrement is known to run a little behind the
>times, but as touted as Roberts is around here, I find it hard to
>believe that he wasn't mentioned one way or the other.
>

How about spreading some of the Excrement info around over the net for
us constipated transplants in the west :-).

Bill Lechner
wrl@pmafire.inel.gov

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Re: Let's send Valvano a rsbc get well card
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:11:25 GMT


In article <21580@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
|>Path: taco!gatech!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!arizona!gln
|>From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
|>Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
|>Subject: Re: Let's send Valvano a rsbc get well card
|>Message-ID: <21580@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
|>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:12:21 GMT+5:00
|>References: <1992Sep3.175452.18030@ncsu.edu>
|>Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
|>Lines: 15
|>
 
|>
|>Now is this supposed to be a *real* r.s.bb.c get well card? You know - the
|>kind where we swear and insult his mother and shit like that? or a wimpy
|>get well card where everyone whines like Scott Turner? 
|>
|>
|>
|>				gln
|>

 Let's say something in between Scott and T-bone, that should clear up the 
matter.

RC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Dwayne Fontana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:38:23 GMT
Organization: The Gizmonic Institute

Russ Smith writes:
>
>With Ronaldson back in Australia, Bennett out for the year(was is
>the ACL?), and Faulkner's status up in the air, Frieder may have
>trouble putting 5 guys on the court this year.
>
The papers in Lexington reported that since Faulkner did not follow
what the court required, following his conviction for fraud in the
long distance call case, he must serve 30 days in jail and will
miss the first semester.  
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Write when you get the chance.
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UCLA news
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:11:20 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

Yesterday's LA Times had something, which I'm paraphrasing from memory
(extremely dangerous)

UCLA lost to Italian Club Champion ????????? yesterday when Tyus Edney 
missed a shot at the buzzer.  Bruins were led by Tarver and O'Bannon.
Tarver had 7 steals.  UCLA were expected to have trouble on this trip,
which is the one that teams are allowed to take every 4 years.


Also, From today's LA Times (8/28):

UCLA plans to go before the UC Board of Regents in November with a plan to add
about 1,175 club seats to Pauley Pavillion...

"Public response to the project has been 'overwhelming'".  The project's
developper has taken refundable deposits on more than 1,000 seats.

The upgraded seating area will feature TV, special food facilities (beer?  on
campus?  Nah) and statistics.  It will be suspended from the rafters and will
increase the capacity for basketball to about 14,000.

A Pavillion Club seat is expected to cost between $1400 and $2800 per season,
with buyers asked to sign multiyear leases.  The price will include season
tickets to men's basketball games.

If approved, construction would start after the 92-93 season.


My response....
Sheesh.
--

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               		This time, *with* the oys
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Shaq's impact
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:22:05 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <Bu2FyA.GGB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>Pardon me, but I could swear that Sampson never made it to a Final 4.  I
>seem to recall they made a big deal of it when UVA made it the year after
>he left.  Anybody else know?          

	Virginia and Ralph Sampson made it to the FF in 1981, where they lost
to the Al Wood-led UNC Tar Heels in the semis before going on to defeat LSU in
the consolation game.  UNC went on to lose to the Hoosiers in the final.

	I think they lost to some western team in the '82 tourney, and lost to
NCState in the west regional finals in '83.  They of course won the NIT in '80.

>Scott
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Tufts University                bug."   _The Devil's Dream_
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: Livingston to LSU?
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:14:12 GMT

In article <4983@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>LSU is in a high profile conference [...]
>and he won't have a super-disciplined coach breathing down his neck.

This clearly deserves an early nomination for the "Understatement of
the Year" award.

- Trent Lange

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From: sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Shaq's impact
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:13:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2FyA.GGB
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Pardon me, but I could swear that Sampson never made it to a Final 4.  I
seem to recall they made a big deal of it when UVA made it the year after
he left.  Anybody else know?          

Scott
From: rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Depth in College Hoops
Keywords: How Much Do You Need?
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:51:40 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

There have been several discusssions, originally focusing on Michigan,
concerning a team's depth, and that having great depth is a prerequisite
to winning a national championship.  I'm not sure that's true.  You have
to be willing to play a fair number of players during the regular season
to keep your top guns fresh going into the tourney, but the teams that
our title contenders are going to get into the tourney anyway, even if
they blow a game or two by playing some of their lesser players during
the regular season in the name of "depth".  Clearly, you are vulnerable
if you've only got five good players, but you really don't need more
than seven if the ones you are using are sufficiently versatile.  I think
Duke's team last year illustrates that.  When it got to the tourney, there
were really only seven players who saw much PT, Hurley, the Hills, Davis,
Laettner, Lang and Parks.  However, you had tremendous versatility in
the starting five other than Hurley, who is pure point guard.  This
proved to be sufficient (at least 20 points sufficient against Michigan
anyway).

So to those of you analysing depth, you need to look at versatility as
well.

-- 
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   (and still at Duke a little bit)
 INTERNET: rws@cs.duke.edu
The next Duke Invitational,  April 3 - 5, 1993 in New Orleans.
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Upcoming Kuppenheimer Classics
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:31:28 GMT
	<1992Aug30.205042.21969@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Aug30.205042.21969@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
}} 
}} In article <19386@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
}} >
}} >What's the big idea, actually getting real teams to play in a
}} >preseason classic?  Don't you southern folks know that you're supposed
}} >to invite three patsies?  Just look at the Hoosier, Boilermaker, ...
}} >"Classics."
}} >
}} >You keep this up, and you're going to give hoops a bad name.
}} 
}} Steve, do you mean patsies like University of Wisconsin-Green Bay?

No, Purdue was one of the patsies last year.  Odd, that UW-GB chose to
hold their "classic" in West Lafayette...

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
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             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.