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From: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Re: Broken Front Tooth....what to do???
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 07:08:15 MST
Reply-To: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Distribution: world
Organization: Stat Gateway Service, WB7TPY

pce9202@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Patricia Emily) writes:

> 	fell out.  She had it "glued" in, but it is not a long-term solution.

Never heard of such a procedure.

> 	She is looking for a conservative, long-term solution.  She was told about
> 	teeth that are "screwed" into the bone of the tooth socket.  However, she
> 	was told that this is painful, and may have other problems associated with
> 	it.  She mentioned another solution ( a partial??) maybe, but I can't rememb
> 	at the moment.
> 	I am posting this hoping for some information, or someone with a similar exp
> 	She is looking for the most conservative approach possible (i.e. no surgery,
> 	painful prosthetics, etc.)  

There are three basic methods of replacing teeth,

removable prosthesis
fixed prosthesis
implants

Implants are not painful, except for possibly the surgical portion, but
like any surgery, the pain diminishes in a couple of days.
Statistically the success rate of implants is running at 95%+ over 5
years.  They can not be used in all cases, you need to have adequate
bone structure, no chronic disease (ie diabetics are usually not good
candidates), etc.

Removable consists of items such as a partial denture.  I always
consider this the treatment of last choice for several reasons.

    (1) You can not achieve the esthetics quality of the other two
        methods.

    (2) Much more bulk then the other two materials.  To replace teeth
        there is a metal framework usually with acrylic teeth.  There
        are also "clasps" that are used to hold the partial in place.
        These clasps usually cause problems with the other teeth over
        a long period.

     (3) Fixed is usually done two ways, a conventional bridge with
         which means that the teeth next to the missing tooth are
         prepared (shaped) smaller to allow for a crown (cap), with
         the missing tooth linked to the adjacent teeth as one unit.

         In some cases, you can go to a bonding method, where the false
         missing tooth is attached to the adjacent teeth using a bonding
         wing on the inside of the adjacent teeth.  This is called a
         Maryland Bridge or Acid-Etch Bridge.


However, each case is very individualized, and the treatment of choice
varies from person to person.  Some forms of treatment are not ideal on
everyone.   And you need to factor in the financial end, some methods
are much more expensive then others.

Suggest your sister ask her dentists about the various methods I
outlined above, asking which might work in her case.  The dentist might
be able to demonstrate with various models or photographs.

david

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From: oroper@DIALix.oz.au (Ocean Routes)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Whiter smile.!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:09:27 +0800
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
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Summary: Tooth whitening!
Keywords: White
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From a layman, I'm quite religious in cleaning, flossing etc etc, but no matter
how hard I try I always end up with a slow but gradual build up of tartar,
stained from coffee and smoke. Apart from the obvious solution, is there
a way to remove these stains and whiten the teeth. Even after visiting
the dentist for a scale and polish there are still areas which have
light brown stains! Also are there any products  which really do help
keep these stains at bay. This may sound all a bit vain but once the
stains start to reappear I become very consious of them
Thanks
Rob Cowle
From: ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: WELCOME Finally!!!!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:06:11 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
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Hello Dentists, Dental students, and Patients!

This is Alec Ellsworth here. I finally got my local net manager to get the
sci.med.dentistry newsgroup added to our collective news resources. And
what a great first week it looks like we're having. Welcome, Dr. David Dodell
and others to our dental forum. I would like to thank all of you who voted
during the voting period and hope that you would tell your fellow colleagues
students, and friends about us.

I'm a third year student here at Marquette Dental School and I have to say that
this year is by far the best so far...I love having patients finally instead 
of manikins!!!!! Hey, anyone with any interesting research, projects, new materials, new methods please post. I'll follow-up on my research project in a 
subsequnt posting...

Have a great week everyone!

Alec
y
-- 
Alec Ellsworth                           "Medicine will cure death     
Marquette University Dental School        and government will repeal 
ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu              taxes before Steve will fail."
NeRD #3859                                               --Guy Kawasaki
From: hougen@focus.csl.uiuc.edu (Darrell Roy Hougen)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Cross bite
Date: 26 Jan 1993 18:01:19 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: focus.csl.uiuc.edu
Summary: cross bite
Keywords: cross bite

My upper teeth are inside my lower teeth, ie., I have a cross bite
problem.  It appears to me that the problem would be corrected if the
upper teeth were moved forward about 1/4 inch.  I have talked to a
couple dentists and they recommended oral surgery to correct the
problem.  However, its not worth it to me to have surgery.  What I'm
wondering is whether it is possible to correct the problem with braces
possibly including an external appliance to be worn at night. A
potential problem is that I am already 28 so it may be hard to move
the teeth.  Any comments.

Darrell R. Hougen
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Hubby's toothache
From: <PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:45:14 EST
Organization: Penn State University

My hubby has had a toothache for three weeks.  He has been to the dentist
twice, but the dentist can't find the problem.  He x-rayed the tooth on the
first visit and said there was no abcess, cavity, or cracked filling that he
could see.  He desensitized the tooth and gave Craig ineffective pain
medication.

After the second visit to the dentist, Craig went to the family doctor,
thinking maybe he had a sinus infection or something like that.  Since he
wasn't running a fever, the doctor didn't give him antibiotics, but he did
give him stronger painkillers.  Still, Craig is having trouble sleeping and
is really hurting.  The dentist called two nights ago to check on him and
said if he's still in pain next week to come back in.

Any suggestions?

Many thanks,

Paula
From: birch@carson.u.washington.edu (Gregory Birch)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Another Student
Date: 26 Jan 1993 06:27:50 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
From: KNIRI@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (Stoessel, Marcel)
Subject: Also a help request
Organization: ETH ZUERICH
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:02:15 GMT
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Hi to everybody!

This is a kind of last-minute appeal from a 19-year old Swiss student. On
Monday, I am going to see a member of a profession that I have learnt to hate
over the last two years. You guess it, a dentist!

I am sorry for my poor English, I hope I can explain the situation clearly.

As I have already said, my age is 19, and yet my teeth look very bad, not to
say almost terrible, and this - to the greatest part - not because of me but
because of - yes - a dentist. Anyone who is interessed in the details, can get
them.
For the time being, I am looking to the future, not the past, because I want to
avoid getting ANY artificial teeth before I am 75!
Due to several mistakes made by two dentists, my teeth were not sufficiently
repaired and, most important, my set of teeth just didn't fit anymore. I mean,
the top part didn't fit on the bottom part. I think this was because the upper
part of my teeth was cut too much during the "repair", so there was far too
much pressure on my FRONT teeth. The bottom of my front teeth always put
pressure on the top part when I was eating etc. This is no problem, according
to the 3rd dentist. But now, my two top front teeth are lose, and I have
exactly the same feeling I had about 12 years ago.. At this moment, I cannot put
ANY pressure on them.
So, on Monday, I am going to the 4th dentist. Maybe you can understand why I am
a bit sceptical. What do you think is the best way to cure this? Can these two
teeth be connected with the ones next to them?

Another question: What is the best material to fill tooth holes today? What
about porcelain (when and how is it used)?

Thank you very much. (I am very sorry for my English!)

-Marcel


Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
From: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie)
Subject: Re: Broken Reemer in Tooth
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:40:44 GMT

phil@trl.oz.au (Phillip Bouchier) writes:


>I have had a root cannel job done on the bottom jaw, half
>way from the eye tooth to the wisdom tooth. During this
>procedure the reamer broke off in the tooth. The dentist
>that done this to me said he did not know how to get the
>broken reamer out. He finished the job off with a temporary
>filling the suggested that I see a specialist. The specialist
>said he could not guarantee that he could get the reamer out
>but would give me an account for trying too. I declined
>his services. The reamer is still in my tooth.

>My question is, will this reamer give me trouble in the future?
>and
>Do I have any redress against the dentist? (I live in Australia)
>and
>Who should pay for the reamer extaction, if required?


>With Thanks,
>Philip Bouchier

Talk to your solicitor.  No matter how good any medical person is, accidents
will happen.  This is the reason that all professional people have insurance 
for such things.

At the very least, the dentist who was doing the work should pay to fix his
mistake.  Give him a chance, if not, see a solicitor. 


Good Luck ..



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From: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Complete Physical (was Re: Thyroid info needed)
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <1993Jan18.160230.19693@speedy.aero.org>, nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel) writes:

>...I do have criticisms of our medical system, some of
>which fall along the lines Ruth discusses (e.g. well-baby checkups are
>probably useful and conventional insurance doesn't cover them)...

>Miriam Nadel

The Blue Cross Blue Shield service benefit (available to all government 
employees) includes 100% payment for well-baby and well-child care.

If I am not mistaken, so do the other plans offered by Blue Cross and
Blue Shield.

Laura

laura@tasvax.nswses.navy.mil                      I speak only for myself.
PHD/NSWC, Port Hueneme, CA  USA
Mom to Maryrose Nadine McGovern - born 8-5-92
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: lh7873@gemini
Subject: Podiatry
Reply-To: lh7873@gemini
Organization: University of Albany, SUNY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:17:54 GMT

Hello out there,
I recently was accepted to one of the seven Colleges of Podiatric
Medicine.  The other six want to interview me.  I am debating whether
or not to attend Podiatric Medical College in the Fall of next year.
I am not asking for any specific information in this post, but am
faced with a very important decision now, as they want to know if I
will attend with-in the Month.  If there is any Podiatrists reading
this, or any Podiatric Medical Students, or anybody with any knowledge
of the field, Please enlighten me!
Thanks, Larry
St. Univ of New York @ Albany

Xref: sparky sci.med:24527 talk.politics.medicine:732
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Subject: Re: Healthcare "systems"
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:47:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1993Jan27.021456.26353@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>hrubin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:

>>Allow all non-fraudulent practices and practitioners, and allow 
>>those who show medical knowledge and ability to even receive 
>>stamps of approval, no matter where learned, and they will 
>>come down even further.

>Okay, how do you get that by the doctors monopoly?  Under some
>measures, Granny of "The Beverly Hillbillies" would qualify as 
>a doctor (as she claims to be (-;) ... who makes the decisions?  
>Who's real, and who's not?

As far as providing stamps of approval, it will be government bodies
and private agencies, as is now done in other areas.  But the stamps
of approval would be for the claims, not the right to practice.

Presumably there would be organizations to evaluate the practitioners,
as they practice, not as the present certification is now; a doctor
should get reevaluated every so often, or when questions arise, and
there should be continual monitoring for the purpose of providing
information to the consumers of medical practice.  The current
certification gives little idea about the relevant competencies. 
The go/nogo approach is not adequate; you do not go to a top
diagnostician with what you suspect is a minor condition, or at
least you would not if you were paying for it.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger)
Subject: Re: Blood Pressure
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:04:08 GMT

In article <57440006@hpscit.sc.hp.com> gw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Gordon Wilson) writes:
>In sci.med, fgedzium@BBN.COM (FrancEs Gedzium) writes:
>
>> My yearly check-up yesterday showed my blood pressure to be 150/105.
>> The doctor said it was blood pressure medicine time.  I asked to please 
>> stuff deleted
>  On a related note.  My mom has high blood pressure, and uses one of
>those battery powered automatic blood pressure monitor machines manufactured
>by Sunbeam ($120).  It is pretty accurate, but not very.  I wonder if there

Just get one of the $15.00 ones and learn to use it your ear is
much more sensitive than the electronics.
Gordon

Gordon Couger
AB5Dg   Agriculture Engineering Oklahoma State University
gcouger@olesun.agen.okstate.edu 405-744-6514 day 744-2794 evenings
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Moter Neurone Disease
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:26:23 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1993Jan17.053801.18378@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> zhu@ee.latrobe.edu.au (Xiaoyuan Zhu) writes:
>I heard from the ALS Association of American that two biotechnology
>companies in US, Synergen and Regenron, have begun clinical trials
>of CNTF (ciliary neurotrophic factor) with patients suffering from
>amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. I wonder if anyone can give me some details
>about it. I would like to know the latest development of the trials,
>whether they would like to accept patients from overseas, or cooperate

Cornell Medical School has sent out a request for referrals.  You'd
likely have to move to New York if you wanted to be in their study,
but you should contact them about it.  The neurology department there
should be able to give you the information.  I don't have the number.

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From: szopinsk@picard.med.ge.com (Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983)
Subject: Re: sprain advice
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:01:04 GMT

Innocent Bystander (holly@sybase.com) wrote:
: 
: 
: Hi.
: My left thumb was sprained six days ago.  The urgent care physician
: had it x-rayed to be sure it wasn't broken (he was uncertain because it
: was badly bruised and swollen) and splinted it.  It's still too painful 
: to use, and somewhat swollen, though most of the bruising has faded.  
: My question is, is this normal, or should I seek help from a specialist?
: Thanks,
: holly



Hi, Holly-

I'm no doctor, just a poor working soul who's had the misfortune of having
13 sprained ankles, so my answer is from accumulated experience.

Usually what happens when you sprain something is that the ligaments in the
affected joint are streched or torn and all the tiny little blood veins in
the area are broken, causing the swelling and discoloration (bruising).
As the veins heal and new blood is pumped into the area the discoloration
starts to go away.  In your case, 6 days sound normal to me (it does depend
on the severity of the sprain).  Swelling should start to reduce in 10 days
to 4 weeks, again depending on severity.

Keep on checking with your doctor, though, just to make sure it is a sprain
and that complications don't arise.  I'd also consider seeing a therapist or
a sports trainer/specialist; they usually have lots of experience in dealing
with sprains.  AND DON'T USE YOUR THUMB UNTIL YOU GET AN O.K. from whichever
professional is taking care of you.  I've pulled the macho thing a couple of
times with my earlier sprains and had to spend extra, painful time hobbling
around.

I hope this helps put at ease, Holly, and I'll be glad to answer any more
questions that my experience may cover.


Jerry

"It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave and keep on
thinking free!"  --  Moody Blues



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From: laser@buckwheat.cray.com (Catherine Hartman  {68387 CF/DEV})
Subject: Beta Carotene
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:29:30 CST



Is beta carotene fat soluble or water soluble?  Just curious?

Thanks,
Cathie
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From: mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller)
Subject: silver in the environment
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:48:21 GMT

First International Conference 
"Transport, fate and effects of silver in the environment"

University of Wisconsin-Madison

August 8-10, 1993

For more information contact:

Prof. Anders W. Andren, UW Sea Grant Institute, University of Wisconsin-
Madison, 1800 University Ave., Madison, WI 53705-4094
Tele:(608)262-0905

or 

Prof. James R. Kramer, Department of Geology, McMaster University,
1280 Main Str. W., Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, L8S 4M1
Tele:(416)525-9140 Ext. 4514
email:kramer@mcmaster.ca
From: kfl@access.digex.com (Keith F. Lynch)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: vitamin and pregnancy questions
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:28:47 -0500
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <jsmith.727601209@unixg.ubc.ca> jsmith@unixg.ubc.ca (JR Smith) writes:
> The vitamin C supplementation leading to newborn scurvy was described in
> two cases in 1965 in woman who received only 400mg supplement per day.

Sounds bogus to me.  Anyone who eats reasonable amounts of fruit and
vegetables should be getting at least 400mg of vitamin C already.

Keith Lynch, kfl@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: colby@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Kenneth Colby)
Subject: Re: DSM-IIIR Diagnostic Criteria: Major Depression (1987)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:21:05 GMT



  As a classification of mental disorders, DSM-III is a joke. It wa
  put together by committe's votes which is not the way to construct
  a reliable taxonomy. This caucas-committee concoction has low
  reliability ( interjudge aggreement ) for most of its categories
  and it is full of logical contradictions. It does not help the
  practitioner decide what treatment is best for the patient and it
  is useless for research. Its main use is in writing down a number
  on a re-embursement insurance form.
	       ken colby
From: km@ky3b.pgh.pa.us (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: heated gloves?
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:33:05 GMT
Organization: KY3B - Vax Pittsburgh, PA

|> >: >So does anyone know where to get rechargeable chemically-heated gloves?

Don't know, but do they still make hand warmers? When I use to throw newspapers in
Iowa, I lit these things and stuffed them in every place I could. I was a walking
torch.

-km
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From: cecchi@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Del Cecchi)
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:04:53 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <18128@pitt.UUCP>, geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan12.114207.17814@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
|> 
|> >>So if you're so smart, why ain't you thin?  Sorry, I couldn't pass
|> >
|> >If you professional diet wonks are so smart, why isn't your cure
|> >rate better than chiropractic?
|> >
|> 
|> What's a professional diet wonk?  I've been on a lot of diets,
|> but I don't think that is what you meant.  I'm not cured, but
|> at least I have achieved a measure of control.
|> 
|> >The RU-486 and CoPP treatments completely reversed the subjects'
|> >obesity.  Timed bromocriptine seems to work wonders.
|> 
|> Didn't seem to on our friend Steve Dyer.
|> 
|> >The issue is, is dieting sufficiently safe and effective for all
|> >subgroups of fat people that America should continue to spend
|> >$30+ billion/yr on it while sandbagging the development and
|> >deployment of superior alternatives?
|> 
|> I don't understand the "sandbagging".  What evidence do you have
|> of any sandbagging?  Is all the dieting worth the money?  Probably
|> not.  I agree that most people can't get it to work for them.
|> -- 

Let's face it, Chuck needs to start the obesity equivilent of ACT-UP and use the
same tactics.  This has been very successful in obtaining greatly increased
priority in the funding of medical research.  




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