From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights,alt.child-support,soc.men
Subject: Re: Itemized accounting of child support
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:25:26 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1993Jan4.231051.2453@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, smile1@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (gray,david l) writes:
>>>>Sorry, but you really blew this one.  The MAIN reason for child support is
>>>>to try to approximate that the child does not suffer a huge change (for the
>>>>worse) in lifestyle due to the divorce.  THis means if the child was 
>>>>provided a certain standard of living before the divorce, it should not
>>>>then be dumped into total poverty after the divorce.  Evidently you really
>>>>don't understand the logic behind child-support payments.
> 
> You are both very short sighted in your views!  Man was made for God.  Women
> was made for man.  Children were made for their parents.  Jesus knew of the
> greed amoung men and women when he was asked about how to treat each other
> under the law.

Pa-leeze!  Take this stuff out of this group.  This is not talk.religion, this
is alt.child-support.  Your antique bibical stuff is sexist, male-dominated
and totally stupid.  According to your logic, parents OWN their children and
can do anything to them that they want.  This is the type of logic that 
child abusers and molesters use.  
Parents are required, legally and morally, to support their children.  Those
who do not, are guilty of negligence.


> 
> Matthew 22 36-40
> 36) Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law?
> 37) Jesus said unto him.  Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
> heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
> 38) This is the first and great commandmdnt.
> 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
> 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
> 
> I have read and I am very familiar with all of the new covenant of the
> New Testament between God and his people.  He never said children are
> more important than either of their parents.  He told us to treat our
> neighbors as ourselves.  We pushed God out of our live and now families
> don't even think they are all equal.  How can I treat my nieghbour as myself,
> if can not believe every member of my own family is equally imprtant.
> 
> Your wrong because you see the child's welfare as being a money issue and not
> a matter of having two parents that remain whole.  You people a so greedy it
> is sick!!!  Man's system would have a child live in $350,000 home  and his
> father in a shack, rather than have them both live in two real nice $150,000
> town houses where both parent can maintain an equal lifestyle for the child
> not matter where he/she is.
> 

And you are totally out of the picture on this.  I have absolutely no problem
with the your scenario.  Only problem is, I've run into quite a few NCPs who
absolutely refuse to pay ANY child support.  
The best solution for the child is a happy home with two loving parents.
Unfortunately, this is not possible.


You have jumped into this thread without reading the whole string of
postings.  

> Just a little tickle.  If you can through the man out to the dogs for the good
> of the child.  Don't be surprised when our children can through homeless to
> the dogs, parents to old age homes, and prisoners to rape and other cruel
> treatment.
> 
> When you take this selfish attiude amoung your own family and one day the
> lord asks you "Did you feed my hungry, visit my prisoners, honor thy father
> and mother??"  Don't be surprised if the next sentence from him is:
> 
> Matthew 7, 23
> 
> And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me,
> ye that work iniquity.
> 
> Men and women should support their children.  I do not see money as the
> most important resource.  Man's law has made it the only focus and hate has
> resulted from greed.  Those that are willing to take part in it loose sight
> of the long term game call "Eternal Life".
> 

There re many things that a child needs from parents.  Money is only one
of them.  

> Tell me.  Can anyone of you see the war between God and Satan and the part
> you are playing in it???  It should be real obvious.
> 

Can you see how blinded you are by your religion?

Sue

> Smile,
> 
> Dave
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