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From: etxtnil@garbob25.ericsson.se (Tomas Nilsson)
Subject: Jonathan Livingston Seagull
Organization: Ericsson
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:13:13 GMT


Hi,
   Does anyone know anything about the author 
Richard Bach? Please reply by email.

Regards Tomas


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From: manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The Literary Canon
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:23:14 GMT
Reply-To: manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Followup-To: rec.arts.books
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Aug29.124704.11659@ultb.isc.rit.edu> entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>The only meaningful and/or useful distinction among people that
>I know about is the language they speak and it is difficult for
>me to conceive of someone making a case for the superiority
>of one language over another.
>
Then you haven't heard anything about Deaf people and the
struggle to get American Sign Language accepted by schools
for the Deaf as well as by foreign language departments in
colleges and universities.  Nor have you read anything about
education in countries where the majority culture speaks a
different language than a repressed minority.  For info about 
the former, check into the following books:  (books, oh wow!)
Harlan Lane	_When the Mind Hears_
		_Misreading the Signs_
Carol Padden and Tom Humphries		_Deaf in America: Voices
					from a Culture_
Leo Jacobs	_A Deaf Adult Speaks Out_

For information on the latter, check out:
Paolo Friere:	_The Politics of Education_
Jim Cummins	_Bilingualism in Education_

michelle


--
Michelle Manes		|	"What should I be when I grow up?"
manes@bass.bu.edu	|	"Honest."
			|	-Robert M. Pirsig
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From: matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz)
Subject: Re: Magical relism
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:29:53 GMT



I'm posting from a friend's account.

			- John Wojdylo



patricia sayre mccoy writes:

>I got in on the tail end of the discussion on magical realism.
>Did anyone post a bibliography of titles under discussion?
>If so, could you please e-mail it to me?  Some of the points
>under discussion sound fascinating and I have a vacation 
>coming up.  Thanks.


The real Mccoy on magic realism is to be found in novels by Gabriel
Garcia Marquez. Try "Love in the Time of Cholera".



>Pat Sayre McCoy


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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Wordstruck
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:32:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <Btnp7G.1GL@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> msmorris@watsci.waterloo.edu (Mike Morris) writes:
>Now, we've seen
>some stunning drama in L.A.---most notably the Quintero-Jason
>Robards revival of _The Iceman Cometh_, the Ingmar Bergman production
>of _Miss Julie_ (in Swedish) . . .

	I'm stunned just thinking about it.  How much did they pay you?


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		   "I swear I never heard the first shot"
                Wm. Gibson, "Agrippa:  a book of the dead"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: richard@csi.on.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:43:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.153404.2055@ccs.QueensU.CA> 3005904@jeff-lab.queensu.ca (Colleen Davis (Dexter)) writes:
>In article <787@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Aug21.081211.5150@pacifier.rain.com> keithf@pacifier.rain.com (Keith Furrow) writes:
>> >In article <g60nbv2z@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>> >>In article <1992Aug18.140604.19294@wam.umd.edu> ara@wam.umd.edu (Ford Prefect) writes:
>> >>>In article <chris.714120892@rufus> chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane) writes:
>> >>>>ara@wam.umd.edu (Ford Prefect) writes:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
>> >>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
>> >>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
>> >>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
>> >WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
>> TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
WHEN WILL IT STOP?  I THINK NEVER.
-- 
Richard Martin               	richard@csi.on.ca
If I had anything witty to say, I wouldn't put it here.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: msmorris@watsci.waterloo.edu (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: Wordstruck
Organization: University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:09:14 GMT

                                      Thursday, the 27th of August, 1992

Mark Taranto tells of seeing Tom Stoppard's _The Real Thing_
with Glenn Close and Jeremy Irons and I'm soooooo jealous.

Martha and I saw it in L.A. at one of the theaters there,
where it was paired up with _Hedda Gabler_. Now, we've seen
some stunning drama in L.A.---most notably the Quintero-Jason
Robards revival of _The Iceman Cometh_, the Ingmar Bergman production
of _Miss Julie_ (in Swedish), and Ron Liebman in _Tartuffe_---, but
I have this complaint about a lot of the theatre we saw there, that
it was done flat or clowny as though it were a TV soap or sitcom. In
a metropolis of 10 million people with so many actor and actress
wannabes, you'd think that seeing plays done poorly would be a rare
occurrence. But that _The Real Thing_ and that _Hedda Gabler_ were
pretty bad, and they weren't alone.

            Mike Morris
    (msmorris@watsci.uwaterloo.ca)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Dragonbone Chair / Tad Williams
From: Rajiv.Prasad@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Rajiv Prasad)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:32:20 GMT
 <1992Aug26.170914.9016@athena.mit.edu><1992Aug26.193220.27910@colorado.edu><1992Aug27.133752.16759@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>
Organization: /u/comp200/rprasad/.organization


hphri@usho26.hou281.chevron.com (P.H.Rice) writes:

Has anyone heard ANYTHING about the third book in "The Dragonbone Chair"
series?  It has been around two years since he put out "The Stone of Farewell"
(second book in the series).  Thanks for any information.


March '93 for the British release from what I've heard. Dunno anything about
the American release date though.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: stefan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Michalowski)
Subject: Re: Sea stories 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:05:09 GMT

In article <Btp7px.J5I@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>	There is an account concerning the voyage of the 'Eppleton Hall'
>(Possibly misspelled) called, if memory serves, 'The Eppleton Hall', by
>an author whose name I have forgotten and which I  cannot check as my
>copy is in Hard Cover Limbo. The EH  was the last paddlewheeler to cross
>the Atlantic, and did so around 1970 or so (Cheapest way of transporting
>the ship, I believe, was to have the ship  itself do the transporting).
>Nifty book and almost certainly out of print, since interest in the Eppie
>appears to  be  low these days. An engineer who served on her mentioned
>that, in his opinion, the boilers were in such a bad  shape that trying to
>fire them up would probably result in an  explosion*sniff* (At least as of
>1988, when the conversation took place. Things may have changed since then).
>
>								James Nicoll

The "Eppleton Hall" is currently moored in San Francisco's Aquatic
Park, near the "Balclutha" and "C.W. Thayer" She doesn't look like
she could cross the Bay, much less the Atlantic. I heard a rumour
that the Brits want her back.

Stefan Michalowski
stefan@sunrise.stanford.edu
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Progress (Was : Re: The Literary Canon)
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:57:49 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Sep1.163905.23333@athena.cs.uga.edu>, heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes:
> In article <1992Aug29.124704.11659@ultb.isc.rit.edu> entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
> >In 6766 Margaret Kulska writes "You mean Cervantes wasn't a...
> >White Caucasian male?  What race was he, then?"
> >
> >I am saddened to see that the superstition of race is still
> >with us despite the progress(?) of the last 50 years.
> 
> 	Progress?  If progress is defined as changing the laws, then
> perhaps there has been progress. However if progress is defined as
> changing the hearts of men and women, then there has been very little
> progress in the last few years.
> Terrance Heath 

The last time I heard this claim made, it was by a black man who
claimed that there had been little or no progress in race relations
in the last 30 years, and:

1. Had a Ph.D.;

2. was professor of something called American Multicultural Studies;

3. was an elected public official in a city where there were almost
no blacks;

4. liked to used the expression "motherfucker" a lot in class, I
guess to show how little attitudes about race relations had changed
in 30 years.

Now, just to show that it wasn't ignorance responsible for this
guy's problem, he had told us in class of a little practical joke
he and a white gal had played on a landlord they knew, back in the
1950s.  The two had approached the landlord when a "for rent"
sign was up, and asked to see the apartment.  The landlord had
a heart attack as a result of the stress of seeing an interracial
couple ask to see the apartment.

Nothing has changed in the hearts and minds of white America?
Dream on.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
From: egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Sherlock Holmes Quote
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:39:54 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <9209021606.AA08038@ros6.gsfc.nasa.gov> mukai@ROS6.GSFC.NASA.GOV (Koji Mukai) writes:
=>I always thought that this Holmes quote was rather silly.  It's just
=>the definition of these words, and does not really describe what a great
=>detective does.
=>
=>A great detective set himself (or, occasionaly, herself) apart by his
=>ability to tell the merely improbable from the truely impossible;
=>and by the ability of coming up with a completely new scenario which nobody
=>else can even think of, let alone judge the plausibility of.

Or to hypothesise the existence of a Niagara Falls on the basis of a
glass of water!!!
From: jjh00@outs.ccc.amdahl.com (Joel J. Hanes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Sea stories
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:18:48 GMT
Reply-To: jjh00@OUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Joel J. Hanes)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


   jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>
> ...  For something thoroughly unromantic about iron, coal and steam,
>try B. Traven's "The Death Ship"... what he describes there (worn-out ships
>being sailed just so they can sink for the insurance money) is still going
>on, too.

Or, for a thoroughly unromantic view of today's US Merchant Marine,
one might try John McPhee's most recent book,
_Waiting_For_A_Ship_

---
Joel Hanes
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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Life's too short. Was: 1930s Science Fiction
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 08:03:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1992Aug26.152235.4274@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Lap Dog) writes:
>It is to the Mad Dog's credit
>that he tried -- albeit somewhat feebly -- to inject a little invective
>into the discussion. 

	Lap Dog wants a large invective injected into his discussion--I hope
he finds it.

>Why are we all so damnably namby-pamby? 

	"We all" aren't.  In your case, I'd always assumed it was what made
you happy.

>Where are
>the Drydens of today? Lets put an end to this snivel. The net cries out
>for a more robust style of discussion.  For starters, lets compose a 
>pastiche to one of Dryden's best. I'll supply the title, *Mac Dogsnot*.

	That should be *Lap Dog Snot*.

>			Arf arf,

	No kidding.
-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		   "I swear I never heard the first shot"
                Wm. Gibson, "Agrippa:  a book of the dead"
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Why I read the Economist
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:43:33 GMT


Francis Muir writes:

        I thought that Matthew Huntbach had the Economist dead to
        rights -- aimed at Six-Formers, although that description
        wil pass over most Merkun heads.
        . . .
        Of course, their straightforward style might not appeal
        to the pseudo intellectual RAB mindset.

I think that the average pseudo-intellectual r.a.b.ble is able to
comprehend the concept of a magazine being written at the six-
form level -- even if we don't know the exact age of a six-former.

To think that I've been accused of being pompous, when the very definition
of the word is living out in Palo Alto.

Mark

Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: couple Ross Macdonald queries
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date:  4 Sep 92 16:30:41 GMT

rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires) writes:

>I've started _The Underground Man_.  It is taking place in Santa Teresa,
>which I seem to recall is the same town Sue Grafton's character lives in.
>Is this correct, and is this a real town in CA?

   I'm pretty sure I've read that Macdonald's town is really Santa
Barbara, but I can't remember where.

         [...]

>From the incredibly limited amount I've seen so far, I still like Chandler
>better, if only for those great one-liners ("She approached me with
>enough sex appeal to stampede a businessmen's luncheon") and the
>slightly less pessimistic outlook of the slightly younger hero.
>I'm not sure about RM and Hammett (RM & Hammett, get it?  Ha!)
>Which reminds me:  What other Chandler stuff is there to read besides
>the four novels in the Omnibus?

   I agree about Macdonald.  Though he's obviously a good writer,
neither his protagonist nor his settings seem to be alive in the way
Chandler's are.  

   Hammett at his best is almost magically good.  The short stories have
their moments, though they're not generally available.  There are two or
three Sam Spade short stories which you may be able to find in obscure
anthologies.

   I can't remember which Chandler novels  are in the Omnibus, but the
ones that aren't are also worth reading.

   Does anyone know what Chandler's Bay City really is?  Santa Monica?
Pacific Palisades?
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The Literary Canon
Keywords: race canon
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:46:29 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <87485@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
> In article <11986@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #IS!  The only circumstance where I have a functional definition of
# #a person's race is for the purposes of identification.  "Can you
# #describe the person driving the other car?"  "Yes, officer, white,
# #dark hair, dark complexion, heavy." 
#                              ^^^^^
# 
# Ah-ha!  So now you're saying all Turkish people are fat, eh?   
# Goodness, this thread is fun.
# 
# Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

Why are liberals so dense?  I was giving an example of how I might
describe a mythical driver in a hit-and-run accident.  Yes, most
Turks I know are rather heavy.  So are most Americans I know of
German ancestry (including me).  I was giving a description such as
you might give to a police officer.  If I had said, thin, you would
have attacked me for that.  If I had said, "average build" I would
be criticized for that.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: msmorris@watsci.waterloo.edu (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: The Literary Canon & Women
Organization: University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:51:26 GMT

                                  Thursday, the 27th of August, 1992

Nancy Hyland writes:
  Dale Spender has written and excellent book: "Mothers of the Novel: 100
  good women authors before Jane Austen" I learned some startling facts in
  reading the book. Women were writing good novels before DeFoe. In fact, in
  the late eighteenth century (I think-- I don't have the book here at work &
  I read it over a year ago) men would publish using a female pseudonym so
  that their writing might get a better reception than if they published with
  a man's name. Reactionary patriarchs in the nineteenth century suppressed
  women's writing from becoming part of "the canon". Spender has also edited
  an anthology of British Women writers. This is well worth looking into.

Umm, there is a series of paperbacks from Pandora Press titled
``Mothers of the Novel'', to which Dale Spender's book is a
companion. Martha and I have a set of twelve of these we ordered
from some book catalog or another for 2$ a volume.
     Some titles from the series are:
_The History of Miss Betsy Thoughtless_, by Eliza Haywood (1751)
_The Female Quixote_, by Charlotte Lennox (1752)
_Belinda_, by Maria Edgeworth (1801)
_Adeline Mowbray_, by Amelia Opie (1804)
_The Wild Irish Girl_, by Lady Morgan (1806)
_Self-Control_, by Mary Brunton (1810/11)
_Patronage_, by Maria Edgeworth (1814)
_Memoirs of Miss Sidney Bidulph_, Frances Sheridan (1761)
_A Simple Story_, by Elizabeth Inchbald (1791)
_The Memoirs of Emma Courtney_, by Mary Hays (1796)
_Discipline_, by Mary Brunton (1814)
_Helen_, by Maria Edgeworth (1834)
_Munster Village_, by Lady Mary Hamilton (1778)
_The Old Manor House_, by Charlotte Smith (1794)

There is no question that women did much to create the English
novel. And, as I've noted before, it is precisely in this one category
(19th C English novels), where significant numbers of women were writing,
that you'll find about as many female authors canonized as male authors.

Martha, my wife, is the resident fan of 19th Century English novels,
and she's the only one of us who has tried to read one of these
books. I think it was the Frances Sheridan listed above, but anyway,
she gave up in boredom. My point is not that these novels are not
good, but that the reason they are not canonized may well have more
to do with their not being Jane Austen than with their being female.

Also, you can find in Jane Austen references to the cultural notion
that reading novels was simply considered a fluffy female thing to do.
One was expected to know one's Bible and Milton and Bunyan, but
novels were long considered an entertainment, a plentiful waste of time.

                 Mike Morris
         (msmorris@watsci.uwaterloo.ca)
From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Why I read the Economist
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:28:27 GMT
Reply-To: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Aug30.190636.22132@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
>In article <14706@mindlink.bc.ca> Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
>
>>Perhaps the saddest American example is
>>the recent self-lobotomization of Time Magazine--which in its early days had a
>>brittle, witty style that lent itself to mockery but certainly didn't insult
>>its readers' intelligence.
>
>I don't know that TIME's decline has been that recent, Crawford. My own 
>opinion is that the quality of writing and reporting in NEWSWEEK surpassed
>that of TIME in the early '70s (NEWSWEEK's Watergate reporting was

   [ ... further discussion deleted ... ]

Oh, come on, now.  Both TIME and NEWSWEEK, as well as practically all of the
daily newspapers, have changed their format/substance to try and "appeal to
what the public wants".  It nauseates the professional journalists (the  term
"professional" is used in the sense of "real" :-) in this instance) but the
upper management mandates it.  So although in one sense they can be blamed,
in another sense they're only giving people what they want.  (Not *all* people,
of course.  Neither I nor thou).  They have to either make a profit or go into
bankruptcy.  

Not sure how the Economist continues to thrive.  Probably it is only a matter
of time :-(

John



--
John W. Nall              | Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
nall@mailer.scri.fsu.edu  | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306
  Actually, love means that you *do* have to say you're sorry, even
	 if you're really not in the least bit sorry. - (me)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: Why I read the Economist
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:04:01 GMT

Clayton Cramer writes:

	Francis Muir writes:

		As for the Economist, it should be pointed out that 
		while they are conservative, they are not Conservative. 

	And even by the current definition of "conservative" in America,
	they aren't conservative.  Note their oft-expressed feelings about
	gun prohibitionism.

The Economist does not operate under American definitions, it is a
British institution. In Great Britain there is nothing conservative about
a pro-gun position. There has never been a time in british history when
owning weapons has been anything but the prerogative of the Armed Forces.
The sole exception has always been hunting weapons. 

						Fido
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.humor,alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.sf.misc
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:05:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.153404.2055@ccs.QueensU.CA> 3005904@jeff-lab.queensu.ca (Colleen Davis (Dexter)) writes:
>In article <787@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Aug21.081211.5150@pacifier.rain.com> keithf@pacifier.rain.com (Keith Furrow) writes:
>> >In article <g60nbv2z@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>> >>In article <1992Aug18.140604.19294@wam.umd.edu> ara@wam.umd.edu (Ford Prefect) writes:
>> >>>In article <chris.714120892@rufus> chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane) writes:
>> >>>>ara@wam.umd.edu (Ford Prefect) writes:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
>> >>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
>> >>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
>> >>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
>> >WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
>> TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
WHY DO ALIEN INVADERS MAKE YOU SHIVER ?

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