HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: billp@Syntex.COM (Bill Putney)
Subject: Re: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order
Reply-To: billp@Syntex.COM
Organization: Syntex U.S.A. - Palo Alto, CA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:36:36 GMT

Is it just me or is this a non-issue?

When I got mine they sent you code and asked you questions about what you copied.  
I don't recall that this issue came up but I do remember being allowed to write 
down the copied information.  I have such a rotten memory and the examiner would 
send stuff like QST articles and ask what frequency and time a certain net met.  
The idea was that they were interested in the content and not a verbatium reading 
of the information.  Usually the asked questions about things with numbers in 
them (just to be mean I think).

So who cares if you write down the .'s & -'s just to make sure you copied it right?
The idea is that you have to copy it and if you can, whatever method you use should
be acceptable.  The code is a pretty old boy kind of a thing to test for anyway.
It's like voting laws use to be in the south.

Even the pro's (NSA's intercepters and such) use crutches like tape so they can go 
back and check if it turns out to be important.

- Bill

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From: jbs@ee.egr.duke.edu (Joe B. Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RACES Bulletin #253 [charging NiCads]
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:32:26 GMT
Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill

In article <9212200632.AA18438@ucsd.edu> enge@almaden.ibm.com (Roy Engehausen) writes:
>[NiCad rechargeable batteries] WILL QUIT EXACTLY WHEN
>NEEDED THE MOST!
>
>     The solution, of course, is the alkaline battery case
>normally available as an inexpensive accessory to your hand held
>radio.  And a supply of alkaline batteries that can keep you
>going indefinitely, with minimum off-the-air time, and without
>a/c power sources for nicad chargers that probably aren't available.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Kudos to Alinco: their HT rapid charger that I bought for my DJ-580 comes in
two pieces: a 117VAC->12VDC converter, and the charger base itself, which
takes 12VDC as input. You can replace the AC->DC converter with a cigarette
lighter plug and charge 'em in a car, or from any handy 12V battery (I keep
a big deep-cycle marine battery and several 7-amp-hour gell cells on hand).

But I agree that an alkaline battery case is a good thing to have. 

  -joe

73 de KD4LLV
-- 
                You spend the night
            Like you were spending a dime

                   - Lyle Lovett
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: paley@netcom.com (Dan Paley)
Subject: Nuts & Volts 3/92, 4/92
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:56:25 GMT

Does anyone have a copy of the march and april 92 issues of
Nuts & Volts Magazine?  There is something about building a 2 meter
transmitter/receiver and I was just wondering if someone could 
send me a copy. (fax/e-mail/usps). Yea, I'm too cheap to shell out $5 
each for reprints for something I'll never build.

  thanks
  --dan

paley@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Scanner news group
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:42:45 GMT

LAPORTEJ@wl.aecl.CA writes:
: I recently saw reference to a news group alt.radio.scanner.
: I have no access to this group it seems. There is no such listing
: for this newsgroup on my system. I have full Internet capability
: ie FTP /Telcom etc. Can anyone advise if this group exist?

Yes, it does exist - and is active. Either you do not get it in
your feed, or your site is rejecting it for some reason. Check
with your system administrator.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:48:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.234200.11309@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.062020.24365@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>
>>     (e) Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available to
>>users on the input channel are not considered remotely controlled
>>functions of the station.  LIMITING THE USE OF A REPEATER TO ONLY
>>CERTAIN USER STATIONS IS PERMISSIBLE.
>> 
>>(CAPITALIZED EMPHASIS IS MINE)
>
>Second, section (e) refers to
>*ancillary* functions of repeaters and the ability to limit access to
>those *ancillary* functions to certain user stations. This doesn't
>address closed repeaters where the *primary* function of the repeater
>is restricted.

I don't think you're correct.  If you read what it says, it says two things:

1.  Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available to users on the input
channel are not considered remotely controlled functions of the station.

...and 2.  Limiting the use of a repeater to only certain user stations is
permissable.

The intent here was to specifically define the legality of restricted access
repeater stations.



-- 
     Jim Reese, WD5IYT            | "Real Texans never refer to trouble
  jreese@sugar.neosoft.com        |  as deep doo-doo"  --Molly Ivins

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wvogel@MtHolyoke.edu (keeper of the tone)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Ham radio software for Macs
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:20:59 GMT

try bric-a-brac.apple.com  ftp 130.43.2.3
dir /pub/ham-radio

their are some programs there weather they will help or not i dont know
but it might be worth a try

good luck

de wayne
1 xmtr shy of a station

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio
From: cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman)
Subject: Re: VK2WI Weekly News, 3rd January 1993
Organization: Your Computer Magazine, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 08:12:05 GMT

>[VHF note from Tim VK2ZTM: Tropospheric ducting has brought some DX
>into the 2 metre repeater networks recently.  There have been interstate
>and ZL contacts. It is also most likely spreading the pager intermods
>to regions which are normally free of them.]

Hey, pager-DX! :-)



-- 
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Phn: +61 2 353 0143  Fax: +61 2 353 0720  AMPRnet: coming RSN!
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: very little
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 06:11:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.234200.11309@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.062020.24365@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>
>>Maybe the following has some bearing here:
>>
>>97.205  Repeater station.
>> 
>>     (c) Where the transmissions of a repeater cause harmful
>>interference to another repeater, the two station licensees are
>>equally and fully responsible for resolving the interference UNLESS
>>THE OPERATION OF ONE STATION IS RECOMMENDED BY A FREQUENCY
>>COORDINATOR AND THE OPERATION OF THE OTHER STATION IS NOT.  In that
>>case, the licensee of the non-coordinated repeater has primary
>>responsibility to resolve the interference.
>>     (d) A repeater may be automatically controlled.
>>     (e) Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available to
>>users on the input channel are not considered remotely controlled
>>functions of the station.  LIMITING THE USE OF A REPEATER TO ONLY
>>CERTAIN USER STATIONS IS PERMISSIBLE.
>> 
>>(CAPITALIZED EMPHASIS IS MINE)
>
>Two things to note here. First, section (c) only applies to interference
>from one repeater to another repeater and says nothing about individual
>non-repeater station transmissions.

Ha!  Please test this for us.  Start operating simplex packet on
the input of a local repeater.  See if citing this rule does you any
good at all.

It won't.

 Second, section (e) refers to
>*ancillary* functions of repeaters and the ability to limit access to
>those *ancillary* functions to certain user stations. This doesn't
>address closed repeaters where the *primary* function of the repeater
>is restricted.
>


You're confused.  The ability of a licensee to limit access to
his station is NOT confined to ancillary functions.

 

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws
Subject: Special Bulletin 48  ARLX048
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 22:53:18 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC AX09
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 48  ARLX048
>From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT
December 21, 1992
Relayed by KB8NW/OBS & BARF-80 BBS
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX048
ARLX048 P5 news

The following information was received at the DXCC Desk from Kan,
JA1BK.

After long and difficult preparations, a group of amateurs found an
opportunity to operate from North Korea.

In view of the most complicated political situation, which is well
known, the expedition has a higher probablity of failure, than of
success.  A license was issued by the military authorities of North
Korea.  It holds certain guarantees that the upcoming operation will
take place.

However, the DXpedition organizers have serious concerns, because
there are many conditions, restrictions and stipulations imposed
upon them.

This DXpedition, if it takes place, doesn't wish to undermine the
major work done by the IARU group consisting of W1RU, OH2BH and
others.  In our case military (not civilian) license was issued.
Moreover, the first operation from a previously "closed" country
frequently "opens" that country for future ham radio activity.

The organizers decided not to appeal for funds and support to any
clubs and associations before the upcoming operation, even though
the expenses are very high.  The risk is just too big and we feel we
cannot risk other peoples money.  Everything was organized and
funded privately by individuals from several countries.

After the DXpedition is over, DXAC shall receive ORIGINALS of all
available documents, licenses, passports, photographs, perhaps
even video shot on location.

Because of restrictions imposed upon the operators, they can
transmit only correspondent's callsign and his report.  Please don't
ask any questions on the air.  Address all inquiries to the manager
JA1HGY.

Proposed callsign for the operation is P5RS7 to be QRV ONLY on CW
and SSB. Standard DXpedition frequencies, QSX up.  No RTTY or WARC
bands due to restrictions.  We shall announce the names of all
operators when the expedition is successful.

We thank you all beforehand for being disciplined and understanding.
Wish us good luck.

73 For the operators and organizers.
NNNN

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Exploding Air Bags? Locking Anti-Lock Brakes?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:28:32 GMT

In article <h-s279j@rpi.edu> abelson@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.151315.1663@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes:
> 
>|> Anyone know if there are any other such manufacturer's stipulations
>|> against transmitters in their vehicle product line.  This might be a
>|> good "consumer report" item that ARRL should write-up for a future QST
>|> issue.
>
>Bill, I recently went in to a GEO dealer, picked out the car of my dreams, negotiated the price, then finally inquired about stipultions in the warranty regarding transmitting equipment.  The salesperson said that there was nothing specific about it in the warranty, but if I install transmitting  equipment which causes a problem with the car, the warranty coverage will end there.
>So did our negotiations :-)
>Mike Abelson - Information Technology Services       abelson@rpi.edu
>.............................................................................

To a certain extent I see less problem with the GEO dealer's statement than
the Toyota approach.  It would be difficult at best for a GEO dealership
to "prove" the transmitter was the cause of the problem.  In any case,
I'd have likely done what you did...walk out and tell'em to stuff their
sale, I'll buy from a manufacturer who will stand behind their product
in terms of the vehicle being resistant to mobile radio RF fields.

I have a friend in the industry, I'm going to ask him about the subject
and see if he knows of any minimum standards that a vehicle must/should
be capable of withstanding relative to exposure to RF, regardless of the
source (eg. Ham, Police, Cellular, etc.)  Anything I learn I'll post
as a follow-up.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ             email via UUCP      bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays      email via Internet  whs70@cc.bellcore.com
From: rpo@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:36 CST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tandy Bashing
Message-ID: <1787700019@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #R:therose.pdx.com:0:trsvax:1787700019:000:729
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!rpo    Dec 21 10:36:00 1992


BTW: The correct address for complaints about a Radio Shack
employee is the District Manager for the store (varies according
to region). If you want to address to HQ, the best address
would be to the Customer Relations people (they route the letter
to the best person for reply).

Radio Shack
1600 One Tandy Center
Fort Worth, Texas 76102

In you letter, be specific about:
The catalog number of the product you are writing about;
The store number (if you know) or the complete address of
    the store you are writing about;
and, always include your complete address in your letterhead...
many times I have received pre-opened letters that have been
separated from the envelope--and no address in the letter.

Paul Opitz, N5TPQ
From: jangus@skyld.tele.com (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What's wrong with my Diamond 2m/440 antenna??? 
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 16:33:10 GMT
Organization: Grendel's Lair


In article <1993Jan3.000538.24510@gvl.unisys.com> rossi@gvls1.gvl.unisys.com writes:

  > 
  > I have been using a Diamond SG-7900 2m/440 mobile antenna for the past
  > 6 months.  Suddenly during the past week it has "died" on 440.
  > 
        Open it up and re-tighten the connections inside. It is assembled
with rods connected by set screw unions. They work loose and the antler dies.
If you're handy with a torch, silver solder the joints. Soft solder is not
a good idea because of the flexing. The solder will crystalize and break.

netcom!bongo!jangus@skyld.tele.com < the winter solstice is here >
US Mail:  PO Box  4425  Carson, CA  90749-4425    1 (310) 324-6080
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Realistic DX-160
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 05:55:13 GMT


I own an old Realistic DX-160 reciever that's still in excelent condition
(I've had it about 4 and a half years) but the tuning is way out of
alignment.  There are tuning marks on the main dial that are supposed to
be used for calibrating the fine tuning (band spread) dial but with the
tuner so far out of alignment these are of no use.

I really can't afford a new radio but I might be able to afford a repair
bill on the DX-160, so:

Can the tuner be re-aligned, so the main dial and band spread dial are
in synch with each other??

I've heard about digital readouts being added to old radios.  Is this
possible with the 160 while keeping it's components 'original'?


Simon
From: jdelancy@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: [ANS] End fed 1/4 wave 80 meter antenna
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:02:10 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Randall@uunet!pyramid!infmx@uunet asls:
>
>What is a good Earth ground?   According to the books I read, 
>you can't get a good earth ground unless you live next to a salt
>marsh.
>
A cheap salt ground is not that hard. Dig a hole in your
backyard, maybe three feet deep and eightteen inches in
diameter.  Drive a ground stake down to the bottom of the
hole leaving 3-6 inches above the bottom for connection to the
grounding strap.  Line the hole with a piece of Orange-burg
pipe (used in sewage) or PVC that's 6-10 inches in diameter.
Back fill around the pipe.  Fill the pipe complete with rock
salt (available for a couple of bucks per 10 lbs).  Fload
the pipe with water and let sit.  Check in 10-12 hours
to see if the level of salt went down and if so fill back up
and re-flood.  Then cap the pipe.  Every so often, like 4-6
months check the level of salt and replenish if needed.

You'll have a salt earth ground that is less than five ohms
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: ted@tedb.demon.co.uk (Edward Batts)
From: troach@netcom.com (Tom Roach)
Subject: Re: HOKA Code3 Demodulator
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:35:52 GMT

I had a HOKA for a very short period of time. Never could get it to
work properly. When I saw it demonstrated (live) at the Monitoring Times
convention in Atlanta (last fall) I was IMPRESSED. Have since traded it
for some spectrum analyzers, etc. This unit should be great if you
live in Europe and want to "decode" some of the more bizarre diplomatic
RTTY stuff. 

Richard Crisp will probably respond to this post and since he has my
old unit and the time and intelligence to fool with it, you can
probably expect a bit more thorough rundown of the unit. It lacked
even an on/off switch, but did include ghastly software. This is not a
unit for the faint of heart. It also can present (the software) WEIRD
symptoms. Mine would work (or appear to) in some modes, but not if I
loaded DOSKEY in high memory. Some/many of the problems may be the 
result of quirky software.

tr
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rod Anderson)
Subject: Re: Satellite Call Signs?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: satellite,amsat,pacsat,microsat
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 23:44:22 GMT

In article <acornwal.4.724983001@fox.nstn.ns.ca> acornwal@fox.nstn.ns.ca (andy cornwall) writes:
>
>     I am configuring PB.EXE for connecting to pacsat/microsat satellites,
>and have run into a snag. The program wants the variable bdcstcall given
>the call sign of a satellite. The info. I have available refers to
>the acronyms UO-22, KO-23, UO-14, LO-19, FO-20, AO-16, which do not
>seem to be call signs.
>      If you know what the call signs of these satellites are, will you
>please tell me about them.
>73's
>--- Andy  VE1COR

The call signs of the bbs of the ham sats are:


              bbscall                    bdcstcall (for PG)
UO-22         uosat5-11                     uosat5-12
kitsat-23     hl01-11                       none yet (bbs not open yet)
AO-16         pacsat-11                     pacsat-12
LO-19         lusat-11                      lusat-12
UO-14  is no longer a ham sat it was replaced by UO-22
FO-20  does not use PB, use a standard packet program

For information on the amsat mailing list contact listserver@amsat.org

Rod Anderson   N0NZO  on ao-16  or   rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: danp@mystis.wariat.org (Dan Pickersgill N8PKV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 03:28:43 EST
Organization: Mysterious Island Network, Cleveland, Ohio  USA

rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rod Anderson) writes:

> It is too bad YOU don't understand amateur radio.  It is never permitted
> to charge for the use of equipment.  You don't own the frequency that the
> repeater is on.  I have a right to transmit on your repeaters input
> frequency if it is not in use.  If there is a repeater that retransmits
> my signal so be it.  
> 
> Rod Anderson N0NZO   rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu
> 
> 

Rod, I think you better re-read the rules and the current interpretations
of them. You might be surprised to get an unwanted letter from Gettysburg
if you don't. I can understand how you feel. I don't particularly like
the idea of closed repeaters myself. But, it is THEIR equipment and
THEIR license. They can establish what ever rules that THEY want for
THEIR system. Of course I might choose to not use their system then. But
that is MY choice.

I must admit, I find it interesting how EXPENSIVE other areas of the
country can be. I know that in this area, $2,000 a year for comercial
sites is fairly common for good sites. And our club is having to get
insurance for the first time (another expense). Insurance for liability
that is, we always have insured the equipment it self. I can see why
some of you have a problem. And I don't see how some of you manage!!!
That old Ham Magic I guess. Thanks for the effort in keeping them on the
air! (I know too few people say that, so I felt I had to.)

As a newly elected Radio Officer of my club I expect to be recieving
LOTS of complaints myself soon. (ARGH!)

Good Luck! 73,


--        
Dan Pickersgill          danp@mystis.wariat.org
N8PKV                    mystis!danp

Never forget the immortal words of Socraties who said, "I drank what?"
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Soldering radials to SO-239's
Date: 31 Dec 1992 01:53:43 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Keywords: antenna construction soldering

I use 1/8" brazing rod, which is real cheap and solders beautifully.
See if you can't get some from a local welding shop.
	- Brian
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