From: cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo)
Subject: Re: Another Cover-Up?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:16:24 GMT

In article <01GPCRMVZJSYG9L8C5@UMAECS> VIGNESWA@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>Anwar Mohammed writes: >"

[Arguing about casualties and the such.  As well as source
credibility]

Vicky says:
>The records I have:
>
>According to May 92 report of Green Peace, there were more than 200,000 
>deaths (directly or indirectly).  Around 120,000 Iraqi soldiers died in
>the 43 day war. Half of the above was killed in the 100 hour ground war.
>There were civilian deaths in the range of 49,000 to 76,000. Because of
>very Strict censorship by America, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, this shock-
>ing news was covered-up.  

I dont trust greenpeace as far as I can throw them.  Basically Green
Peace seems more interested (well some do some dont) in just making a 
statement about life and stuff than being truthful.  For example, Recently
they showed a tape of "suspected" seal hunters bludgeoning seals in
Norway for the pelts.  Adult seals mind you.  They spent 30 minutes
saying they do this for furs and hurt the seals.
2 things: 1) Seal pups are used for furs, adult seals have little hair
	  2) Blood stains from beating a seal to death makes for a 
             lousy piece of clothing
	     

Thus obviously this was a false report.  

(rumor even has it that they staged it, but this cant be proven,
 and I dont like to make unsubstantiated accusations)

This is a tangent, but Im just trying to say that GreanPeace has
become a big pile of Sh_t in my opinion.  The Red Cross and 
Amnest International are the ones that help the children and
are actually there.  Green Peace is just in a corner shouting thier
heads off about shit they know nothing about.  If your going to quote a 
source make it credible.  What does green peace have to do 
with Iraqi Children?  Should they be worried about the Ozone or something.

>According to another volunteer organization, the child death in Iraq is
>1500 per day and there would be 170,000 child deaths in the next 5 year
>period.  Due to this a whole generation has been destroyed.  The modern
>techniques of war create a long term effect.  Destruction  of hospitals  
>and waste treatment facilities etc  were the main cause of the indirect
>effect of war in Iraq.

I dont here you crying about the Soldiers coming home with 
ailments from the burning wells do you?  They may not be dying but
whats worse? Death or indeterminate suffering?  

>Though I respect the  RED CROSS and AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL, I guess they
>are not beyond the patriotism.  Amnesty International report during the
>Gulf War said that Iraqi soldiers went to maternity hospitals and threw
>the children out of the inhubator boxes (sorry for paraphasing).  Remem-
>ber Naira Al-Sabah? She deserved an Oscar for her Congressional hearing!
>
>I know.  This is not the proper forum (alt.politics.clinton) for all of
>these.  But I didn't want to leave this  unanswered.  I wouldn't do any
>follow up in this forum.
> 
>>Anwar Mohammed                FREE THE KUWAITI POWS.
>
>That's a good demand.  Don't you need a Democratic  Republic of Kuwait?
>I wouldn't like to be a citizen of Kuwait, Inc., which has a membership
>in UN.

You dont have to be a democracy to want POW'S free.  
If the war is over POW'S should be returned.  There is no reason for them 
anymore.  Especially when they are in the hands of some one like 
saddam huessien. Who's own men had to be stripped of white clothing before
the war (even under garments) so they had nothing to surrender with.
Does that tell you something about the nation?

>Vicky:
>UMass,
>Sep 29


Derek H Cedillo
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