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From: rhatch@bestsd.sdsu.edu (RICHARD HATCH)
Subject: Re: satellight dish
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.035043.13448@sfu.ca>, richter@fraser.sfu.ca (Kurt Joseph Ric writes...
>As for what you can aim your dish at, the midwest is blessed with coverage
>from both East- and West-coast footprints.  Of course, this just implies 
>that you can see something once from the East, then see it again 3 hours
>later off the West (and requires 2 dishes).  

The dish I had was steerable so it moved from one satellite to another. The 
receiver contains circuitry that runs a motor on the dish mount to shift 
the dish from one satellite to another. I think this is pretty standard.

Is the guy still around who sits on a stool and rambles all day about 
vaguely religious stuff and tells you to send money? His was one of the 
unscrambled channels, and he was oddly entertaining, in a vacuous sort of 
way.

rHatch
San Diego State University
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: richter@fraser.sfu.ca (Kurt Joseph Richter)
Subject: Re: satellight dish
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:50:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.151540.20215@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> tag@hermes.ecn.purdue.edu (Tony A. Gibbens) writes:

I'm a Boilermaker alumni - how's the football team and that phenom QB 'sposed
ta do this year???

>
>Just a few questions,
>1) what is the approximate cost of a satellight dish system.

It depends on what you buy.  Size of dish is proportional to signal quality
and cost, but plan on about $1500 minimum (installed, w/ all the trimmings)

>2) how long do you have to use (own) this system before you hit
>   the break even point verses average cable rates

It'll never happen, because...

>3) Which popular channels (networks?) are encoded and require 
>   a decoder

ALL OF THEM.  Literally.  The only things currently available in unscrambled
format in the midwest (and everywhere else) are political, religious, and 
shopping channels.  Your networks and major cable channels all require 
authorization (i.e. payment of fees).

>4) in the midwest area (IN), what is available from (recieveable?)
>   satelight (s) which are able to be aimed at.

As for what you can aim your dish at, the midwest is blessed with coverage
from both East- and West-coast footprints.  Of course, this just implies 
that you can see something once from the East, then see it again 3 hours
later off the West (and requires 2 dishes).  For a complete listing, the
easiest way to investigate is to pick up a copy of one of the weekly 
satellite listing magazines - sorta like a TV Guide for dishes.  
>
>
>Just exploring my options. 
>tag@ecn.purdue.edu


Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: TCI
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 01:49:28 GMT
Organization: Movement to Ban or Re-Regulate the CABLE MONOPOLIES
Distribution: alt

In article <1992Aug18.200420.6713@news.nd.edu> root@sanger.chem.nd.edu (Doctor Math) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.224136.13959@gagme.chi.il.us> wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer) writes:
>>There are interactive cable boxes, that can be polled by the head end,
>>as to what channel they are on, but they are few and far between.
>
>Few and far between? Hardly. Every paying customer in our local branch of
>the Cable Monopoly has one. They can be polled, they can be instructed to
>descramble various channels at will, and they can be instructed to render
>themselves useless if the bill is not paid.
>The alternative?   I hear rumors about some guy in town who sells cracked,
>non-addressable boxes for a couple hundred bucks. No, I don't know who it
>is nor do I have one of them. Who needs TV when you have the Net? ;-)

I think you misread what Bill was saying.  Yes... The Zenith (and others)
boxes are addressable, but they do not reply back to the cable company 
any data whatsoever.  They only follow on/off commands for individual
channels.  And, if you happen to be paranoid about your cable box reporting
what you are watching to the cable company, insert a standard One-Way
RF cable amplifier between the box and you cable.  Any fears of the box
spying on you should then be lifted off your shoulders.

I don't know if it was a State law, or a Federal law, but the cable 
company here (Televents, a TCI Co) used to send out once a year a 
fact sheet about what they can and cannot obtain from you in the way of
information, and one of the sub-topics dealt with poll and respond, and
the fact that they did not do this, and if they would in the future, you
would be informed.

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.


Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: M19249@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Telcos in the cable business
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:31:15 GMT

In article <12AUG199222581611@bestsd.sdsu.edu>
rhatch@bestsd.sdsu.edu (RICHARD HATCH) writes:
 
>In article <1992Aug11.214253.1998@nynexst.com>, em@nynexst.com (Edward Man)            writes...
>>In your research, did you find that AT&T's profits were limited by law?
>>If AT&T had made more money than allowed, it had to given everything
>>back. Did you know that?
>
>If AT&T hired accountants so incompetent that they let the company make
>more money than allowed, then the company would have justifiably fired them
>and hired some who would play the game better. There was little danger that
>AT&T would make more than allowed. They had no incentive to do so.
>Investors were holding an extremely profitable stock as it was; why should
>company managers risk bothersome governmental intervention and possible
>loss of their jobs to make another couple of percent in dividends for the
>stockholders? To do so would not have even occurred to them.
>
>rHatch
>San Diego State University
 
Maybe we all should review some of the published stories about AT&T gold
plating of their infrastructure and then passing the costs on to the captive
consumer.  If I'm limited to X percent profit, I would much rather be making
that on a higher amount of revenue.  Go look at how much a AT&T microwave
tower cost compared to MCIs towers 20 years ago.
Also, for those that don't know, over 40 major cities in the US now have been
wired with optical fiber by "Competitive Access Providers".  The two biggies
in that market are TCG out of Staten Island and MFS from Oak Brook IL.  These
companies even have a trade association located in DC.  By the way TCI and
Cox jointly own TCG.  These CAPs are connecting dedicated circuits into all
the LD companies for users.  They got regulatory approval in NY to provide
switched interconnection this spring.  The FCC may make a ruling this fall.
-DW
"standard disclaimer here"
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Re: Telcos in the cable business
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:40:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

em@nynexst.com (Edward Man) writes:

>the local services. That's why immediately after divestiture, pay phones
>went up from 10 cents to 25 cents. 10 cents a call was actually a loss
>for the telcos. But then it didn't matter because there was a huge long
>distance charge.

  Most places anyways.  The New York area held out a year or two afterward
before raising pay phones to a quarter.

  Too bad they couldn't keep the rest of the city in line, like tunnel and
bridge tolls as well as subway tokens...

>I liked the old way better because I make a lot more local calls than
>long distance calls. Of course it is not fair to others.

  It's safe to say that the average domestic bill is primarily local calls.
Another side effect is the number of exchanges that you have available for
unlimited calls has shrunk too.  Hell, down here in south Jersey they've
now got "short distance" charges, about $3.50/hr for a call to a phone only
8 miles away.

  -jack-
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: rhatch@bestsd.sdsu.edu (RICHARD HATCH)
Subject: Re: Is your cable company interested in the channels you are ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.033608.26074@sfu.ca>, richter@fraser.sfu.ca (Kurt Joseph Ric writes...
[in response to a proposal for competition among CATV suppliers in a 
community]
> 
>Possibly a good idea, except for the cost.  The installation and maintenance
>of the coaxial cable plant is roughly half the budget of an average CATV
>company.  Three cable companys, each serving 1/3 of the original cable 
>company's subscriber base (a little math...) requires everyone's bill to
>exactly double.  Thus swamping any cost reductions due to competition...

If I were designing a business plan to go into competition with my local 
cable supplier, I certainly would not expect to split the market evenly. I 
think it is reasonable to assume that anyone with some business savvy ought 
to be able to do better than the folks running the franchise here. Giving 
minimal attention to the subscribers would go far toward an 80-90% market 
share, I would think, since our local CATV supplier doesn't do that.

Why would you want to settle for 1/3 of the market?  Instead, go for it! 
It's the business way!

rHatch
San Diego State University
From: bobm@boo.uucp (Bob Marrow)
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Re: Is your cable company interested in the channels you are ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:13:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Who?  Me?

In article <1992Aug11.211822.1248@nynexst.com> em@nynexst.com (Edward Man) writes:
>Worse yet, UACC of Westchester took out 3 of the channels that I paid
>for in my regular subscription to show the TripleCast to make money.

Over here in Concord, CA our cable company _added_ two channels to the
existing 40 and temporarily deleted their Pay-Per-View Ad channel for
the TripleCast.  Hopefully, the equipment that was installed for the two
extra channels will remain and they will put something else on them.
Just so it's not another religious station.

-- 
Bob Marrow             DoD#0632
bobm%boo@pacbell.com
bobm@netcom.com        ICBM: 38 0 22 N / 122 2 20 W
From: lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
Subject: Re: TCI
Date: 12 Aug 92 07:14:00 GMT
Organization: CMC Network Systems (Rockwell DCD), Santa Barbara, CA, USA

In article <1992Aug7.035757.2042@leela.cs.orst.edu>
   bob@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (robert s. richardson) writes:
>I am a bit unnerved by this call for "reregulation" of cable.  Cable is
>already heavily regulated by the communities it operates in, partly
>because the technology is such that monopolies are difficult to avoid. This
>congressional bill will remove local controls over the regulations.

While I agree with you that local control is desirable and preferable,
Congress has already preempted the area by the previous "deregulation"
bill, which gutted all local oversight.

Here in Santa Barbara, we have ONE local station, plus a PBS UHF relay
(which I only know one person that has managed to pick up). Otherwise,
the nearest stations are 50 miles away, behind mountains. Nevertheless,
the cable company found a consultant to swear as his professional
opinion that the average household in the coverage area can get 6
channels off the air (with an unspecified antenna), and therefore the
cable company is not in a de facto monopoly status, and under the
deregulation bill, the rate review provisions of the contract were
nullified. The company has never implemented many of the technical
provisions of the contract, such as data networking, channel
capacity, etc.

> [must-carry plus must-pay is bad]

I agree completely with your concerns about the effect on the small and
rural operators. I think must-carry is right and must-pay is wrong.
Also, the standard rates sound bad. A cost-plus with a cap on executive
salaries might be better (but harder to audit).

-- 
/ Lars Poulsen, SMTS Software Engineer	Internet E-mail: lars@CMC.COM
  CMC (Rockwell Digital Systems)	Telephone: +1-805-968-4262	
  Santa Barbara, CA 93117-5503		TeleFAX:   +1-805-968-8256
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: rhatch@bestsd.sdsu.edu (RICHARD HATCH)
Subject: Re: Telcos in the cable business
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:25:00 GMT

In article <7992@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark writes...
>Profit is determined as a percentage of revenue.  The trick therefore
>is to maximize your revenue stream.
> 
>For example you have a job to do.  Two companies have bid for the job.
>Company one will do the job for $1000.  Company 2 will do the job for
>$2000.  As the head of a regulated utility, which company do you choose.
>The obvious answer is company two.  The reason for this, is that since
>you are going to be able to charge the amount of the contract to your
>base anyway, it doesn't matter what you pay for a job.  At a profit of
>5% the $1000 dollar contractor nets you a profit of $50,  the second
>company will net you a profit of $100.
> 
Another ploy used in the olden days by the phone company was simply to buy 
your suppliers all the way back to the copper mines that supplied the raw 
materials. Then your accountants can design who gets paid what, and you can 
make up whatever costs you want. For example, who gets charged for the 
company's management overhead and other nonspecific costs? If you move 
money around creatively enough, no one will ever figure out how much 
profit you made.

The people who run today's phone companies began their careers in the 
organization that was the acknowledged master of this ploy.

rHatch
San Diego State University
Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: satellight dish
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:47:05 GMT

In article <15AUG199221134251@bestsd.sdsu.edu> rhatch@bestsd.sdsu.edu (RICHARD HATCH) writes:
>Is the guy still around who sits on a stool and rambles all day about 
>vaguely religious stuff and tells you to send money? His was one of the 
>unscrambled channels, and he was oddly entertaining, in a vacuous sort of 
>way.
>
I think you're referring to Gene Scott.  Yes, he's still around.  There's even
a newsgroup about him now: alt.fan.gene-scott .  And if you don't have a
satellite dish, you can hear him on shortwave radio.

Bill Marcum



Newsgroups: alt.cable-tv.re-regulate
From: tag@hermes.ecn.purdue.edu (Tony A. Gibbens)
Subject: satellight dish
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:15:40 GMT


Just a few questions,
1) what is the approximate cost of a satellight dish system.
2) how long do you have to use (own) this system before you hit
   the break even point verses average cable rates
3) Which popular channels (networks?) are encoded and require 
   a decoder
4) in the midwest area (IN), what is available from (recieveable?)
   satelight (s) which are able to be aimed at.


Just exploring my options. 
tag@ecn.purdue.edu
From: mz@VENUS (Mark Zwolinski)
Newsgroups: alt.cad
Subject: Re: HPGL 'compacted binary' ??
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:13:37 GMT
Reply-To: mz@VENUS (Mark Zwolinski)
Distribution: alt.cad, alt.cad.autocad

In article <1992Aug20.093149.711@comp.lancs.ac.uk>, davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know about HPGL compacted binary files ?
>
>I received this message the other day :
>
> 'I have recently aquired a Hewlett-Packard 7221T Plotter. 
> Unfortunatley it only recognizes plot instructions in compacted binary,
> and all our C.A.D. programs write there files only in HP-GL language. Do
> you have a program on your archives that will convert an HP-GL file to a
> binary file for the PC.'
>
>Can anyone throw any light onto this issue ?
>
>Davei (davei@lancaster.ac.uk)

The file format has NOTHING to do with HPGL.  I have written routines to 
drive such a plotter, providing a CALCOMP compatible interface to a FORTRAN 
program, using a vile mixture of C and FORTRAN under VMS.  It still works.  
If you would like me to bundle everything up, "as is" and mail it, I can do
, but it may not be comprehensible to any on else!


Mark Zwolinski						mz@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Department of Electronics and Computer Science		Tel. (0703) 593528
University of Southampton				Fax. (0703) 593045
Southampton SO9 5NH, UK
Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: bvd@duteisi.et.tudelft.nl (Bert van Drieenhuizen)
Subject: ANSYS
Organization: Tu Delft
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:46:03 GMT

Who can answer a few difficult questions about the finite element program
ANSYS....

I use it to calculate the bending of beams temperature stress, the problem
is when 'buckling' occurs....

Thanks !

Bert van Drieenhuizen
Delft, University of Technology
The Netherlands
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From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: alt.cad
Subject: materials
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:21:52 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

Hello,
Do you know of any recent articles or books on computer visualization for architects?
I'd be grateful if you let me know about any publications you came across.
Thank you.

-- 
*******************************************************************************
* IBRAHIM BALLOUZ            **           DEPARTMENT OF ARCHITECTURE          *
* ccav38@uk.ac.strath.ccsun  **  SRTATHCLYDE UNIVERSITY GLASGOW SCOTLAND U.K. *
*******************************************************************************
From: mlurie <Michael W. Lurie>
Date:  21 Aug 92 11:16:00
Subject: Re:  pc trace
Newsgroups: alt.cad


Though it's not an FTP site, you can download PC-TRACE (V.32bis or HST)
from The Depot BBS in northeast Pennsylvania, USA at 1.717.853-3599  mwl



Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: hak@alf.cooper.edu (Jeff Hakner)
Subject: Re: HPGL 'compacted binary' ??
Organization: The Cooper Union ( NY, NY )
Distribution: alt.cad, alt.cad.autocad
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:13:06 GMT

in article <1992Aug20.093149.711@comp.lancs.ac.uk>, davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles) says:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know about HPGL compacted binary files ?
> 
> I received this message the other day :
> 
>  'I have recently aquired a Hewlett-Packard 7221T Plotter. 
>  Unfortunatley it only recognizes plot instructions in compacted binary,
>  and all our C.A.D. programs write there files only in HP-GL language. Do
>  you have a program on your archives that will convert an HP-GL file to a
>  binary file for the PC.'
> 
> Can anyone throw any light onto this issue ?
> 
> Davei (davei@lancaster.ac.uk)
Call up HP.  I know someone who was in a similar situation.  HP
actually has an "antiquated products" division which can provide
you with a program to convert HPGL to CB.
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: alt.cad
Subject: HPGL 'compacted binary' ??
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:31:49 GMT
Distribution: alt.cad, alt.cad.autocad
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

Hi,

Does anyone know about HPGL compacted binary files ?

I received this message the other day :

 'I have recently aquired a Hewlett-Packard 7221T Plotter. 
 Unfortunatley it only recognizes plot instructions in compacted binary,
 and all our C.A.D. programs write there files only in HP-GL language. Do
 you have a program on your archives that will convert an HP-GL file to a
 binary file for the PC.'

Can anyone throw any light onto this issue ?

Davei (davei@lancaster.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: sivand@eng.auburn.edu (Sivand Lakmazaheri)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: RESEARCH ASSISTANT NEEDED
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:54:47 GMT
Reply-To: sivand@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering




                 Research Assistantship Available



Research assistantship is available in the area of computer-aided engineering.
The research involves automating 2D and 3D detailed drawings of structural
systems via the knowledge-based approach.  Knowledge of databases, knowledge-
based systems, and computer-aided design & drafting is necessary.  Working
knowledge of C programming is a must. Knowledge of structural engineering is
helpful but is not necessary. The student is expected to pursue graduate studies
in the area of computer-aided engineering leading to MS or PhD in civil
engineering or a related engineering discipline. The assistantship is available beginning January 1993. To apply send your resume and a copy of your transcript
to:


sivand@eng.auburn.edu

Or

Professor Sivand Lakmazaheri
Civil Engineering Department
238 Harbert Engineering Center
Auburn University, Alabama 36849
USA
 
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:32:24 PDT
From:         "David G. Booth" <COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Drawing Management & AutoManager "Workflow"

*** Resending note of 08/13/92 12:45
Date:     Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:45:13 PDT
From:     "David G. Booth" <COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
To:        <autocad@ohstvma.bitnet>


I recently purchased the drawing management software AutoManager
"Workflow" by Cyco International. So far, the software seems to
be well worth the investment. I am curious to know of any other
users of this software, or for that matter anyone who knows anything
about configuring the "field/path" relationship for maximum flexibility.
I also have other questions and items to discuss, I am hoping to find
a source on this net that will help me along with questions regarding
"Workflow". Thanks in advance...

David Booth
University of California, Santa Barbara, CA
Communications Services Department
com1boot@ucsbvm.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler)
Subject: Re: ACAD R12
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:28:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.202015.1412@alcbase.gun.de> erik@alcbase.gun.de (Erik Forker) writes:

>does anybody know if R12 is out jet??

>erik

Last I heard, the international versions were not out yet, only the US for 
MS Dos version is released.
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From: tilden@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Tilden)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: CDROM
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:51:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Hi,
	I've gotten r12 up and running, but the CDROM intrigues me... Has
anyone looked at it? Is there anything way useful on it? Would someone be
willing to email me a directory listing? I'm trying to decide whether or
not I can justify getting a reader for my pc.

Bob	tilden@nuhepl.phys.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad