HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: USA Today\NYSE newsfeeds
Date: 23 Aug 1992 14:38:54 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jmiksich@iowegia.uucp (John Miksich) writes:
: 
: I am running a Spitfire Bulletin board and would like to make 
: available to my callers some service like USA Today or NYSE...
: What I have heard about getting either of those services is 
: that you must get a leased line and you also need to have a 
: a data ingestion program running in the background all the time 
: importing the information into the bulletin board.  

If you have UUCP you can pick up a Clarinet feed (UPI news, Newsbytes,
Street Price Report) from a local system that carries it or from a
commercial news hub site (like Msen or UUNET or PSI) that gives feeds. 
Cost depends on the number of users you have.  No need for a leased line,
an ordinary dialup modem will do just fine, and it looks just like an
ordinary Usenet feed (except that you have only limited rights as to what
you can do with it.)

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562
     contact info@msen.com for information on Msen internet services
From: froebe@plains.NoDak.edu (Drugon Draconius)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: WWIV Question
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:40:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19979
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The latest WWIV BBS version is 4.21a.  It supports multi-networking.  That
means you can have Usenet, WWIVnet, and about 20 others at the same time.

There is a new mod out that will let you have 65000+ subs!!

froebe@plains.nodak.edu
Jason Froebe
Drugon Draconius
WWIVnet 1@7118
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: eng20204@nusunix2.nus.sg (LEE MUH HWA)
Subject: RA Doors
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:23:15 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: lundberg@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Andrew Jon Lundberg)
Subject: Re: Another WWIV Question...
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:39:16 GMT

If you wish to get the WWIV Multiline 4.21a mod, I have placed the most 
current version (both auto-installing, and human readable formats) on
wuarchive.wustl.edu in pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS named wwiv-ml.zip.

Andrew
aka Arc Angel
WWIVnet 1@3144
From: cuadrasola@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: BBS software info?
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:42:59 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I have plans to start a BBS on an IBM-PC compatible that must have access
both through MODEM and through the network using TCP/IP.  Can some one 
suggest a BBS program that would be able to do this?  In case there are
several out there, could you specify the best one? I would of course prefer it 
public domain but comercial is OK too.

Thanks

Juan
cuadrasola@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu    
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: pizzi@nervous.com (Riccardo Pizzi)
Subject: Re: BBS software info?
Reply-To: pizzi@nervous.com (Riccardo Pizzi) 
Organization: The Nervous XTC Public Access Unix System, Rimini, ITALY
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 03:13:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.164259.42550@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> cuadrasola@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>I have plans to start a BBS on an IBM-PC compatible that must have access
>both through MODEM and through the network using TCP/IP.

unfortunately you forgot to mention what operating system you will be running.

Rick
-- 
Riccardo Pizzi @ the Nervous XTC Public Access Unix System, Rimini, ITALY
E-Mail -> pizzi@nervous.com        <*>      Bang-path -> uunet!nervous!pizzi
Nervous XTC, the home of the UniBoard package * Data: +39-541-27135 HST/PEP/V32
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: FTP Site for FIDONET Nodelist (latest)
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:21:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: lub001.1992Aug29.102127.1491
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

Someone recently e-mailed me concerning where the Fidonet Nodelist may
be FTP'ed from.   The information is below, but keep in mind the FTP
sites should be utilized during off-times only.  Thanks goes to those
individuals who spend the time to keep the FTP sites open and I appreciate
that.  Here is the scoop on the latest nodelist:

FTP to:
M2XENIX.PSG.COM
Login anonymous using your complte e-mail address as password.
cd/pub/fidonet/nodelist
do a "TYPE I"
get NODELIST.??? where ??? is equal to the numeral such as todays' list
would be nodelist.234.  It will change every friday to the julian date
of that friday.  so expect the next one to be nodelist.241.  This file
is long and it is assumed you know how to make it ready for use usin such
software as parselst, sysnl, opars among other nodelist parsers.
happy netting-
Grady (N5UYH) at the Ham Connection (409)833-1795
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Looking for shareware/commercial BBS software.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:00:50 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

john@actrix.gen.nz (John Vorstermans) writes:

> I am trying to find a good high-quality Bulletin Boards System (BBS) to
> replace the current software that we are using on our UNIX box.  Does
> anyone know of, or able to give me information about what they consider to be
> good software, both from a user perspective as well as maintainence from 
> a sysop point of view.

Aren't you currently using XBBS? What's wrong with it? Now that I've got
Coherent 4.0 (32bit at last!) I was going to give XBBS a try - maybe I
shouldn't.

> Interactive Unix SYS V 3.2 3.0.  Running on a Zenith 386/33.
> We also have BSD386 on another system and are considering moving our
> entire operations over to it.

Is that BSD/386 or 386BSD?

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
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From: wolfman@pdnfido.fidonet.org (aram mirzadeh)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.list,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.lists.d
Subject: Major BBS / Internet Questions...
Date: 31 Aug 92 06:16:34 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix


Greetings to one and all.... I am new to these newsgroups so please excuse
the simplicity of the question.....

1) I am currently running Major BBS ver 5.3 - Galacticom / 16 user version. 
I have seen the ads, and received the advertisements from Major BBS, but have
not had a chance to actually use the system.  Has anyone used version 6? If 
so, how would you rate it as compared to version 5.3?  

2) I have heard that the SNA (I think that's the name) has relaxed the rules 
that govern who can get a internet connection.  Is there anyway regular bbs
systems get a live connection with internet, and if so how much does it cost?
I live near a major distribusion point... (Stony Brook University) which 
provides a connection to most of Europe, so I'm sure they have the capacity
to get the lines out.  

Thank you in advance... 

Wolfman


Aram "Wolfman" Mirzadeh
wolfman@pdnfido.fidonet.org
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: pickrell@hoss.unl.edu (Andrew Pickrell)
Subject: Info on Delphi
Summary: Info on Delphi wanted
Keywords: Delphi
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:35:52 GMT

I am interested in any information about the financial services available on
Delphi.  The prices seem better than Compu$erve especially since I would
only be using financial (extended) servces.

Any ideas would be appriciated.

Thanks
--
===========================================================================
Andrew Pickrell                   | My opinions are my own,
UNL Dept. of Chemical Engineering | but they could be your too
EMail :pickrell@hoss.unl.edu      | for the low price of 5 bucks...
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: lundberg@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Andrew Jon Lundberg)
Subject: Re: Another WWIV Question...
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:20:19 GMT

v120qldp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PATRICK FERREL) writes:

>Complex Answer: WWIV is not multi-line.  However, Arc Angel, who reads this
>newsgroup, wrote a gigantic mod which supposedly alters EACH module.  


>I don't have the guts (or perhaps the stupidity) to install it myself because I
>have never heard from anyone who has done it.  I'm not going to be the first, 
>nor the second to try something that big.  I wouldn't even if I weren't 
>starting school.  No one knows how to implement something that major into 
>Wayne's code except Wayne himself.  I've seen fix after fix after fix for most 
>large, and even some small, mods.

>It seems as if people want WWIV to be more like VBBS.  I personally don't like
>the way VBBS works, and am more than happy with one phone line, so I use WWIV.


>Patrick A. Ferrel - Scholar. Helpless romantic. Modem geek.  | Disaster Area
>v120qldp@ubvms.buffalo.edu  | WWIVnet 1@7659 | IceNET 1@7659 | (716)683-6657

More on the multiline modification:

Yes, the mod is too big for most people to contemplate. I don't think I'd agree
that Wayne is the only one capable of making a major change to WWIV, as a lot of
people can read and write c. Yes, there will be fixes, but my changes are rather
uniform, and fixes should be minor. I've seen quite a number of fixes for the
released versions of stock WWIV code. There are slight incompatibilties with the
WWIV net software possible, and I am speaking to Wayne about changes to network2
so it can operate concurrently with active nodes. Yes, most of the files have 
changes, but most of the files have dos file commands, and the bulk of the mod
is rewriting all the file access of WWIV. I don't think adding multiple lines is 
simply being more like VBBS. It is offering an option for those sysops who do
want to expand their BBS, as they otherwise have had to stop using WWIV.

I know a mod for such a major change is a difficult method of getting multiple
nodes in WWIV (for most sysops). I am perfectly willing to let wayne look at, 
copy, and use this code to make stock WWIV multiline (as long as he continues 
to release the code). I imagine this is the case for most people who release 
mods for WWIV.

Andrew
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: BBS via Packet Radio
Date: 2 Sep 1992 11:44:50 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I am just a beginner at BBS access, the various networks, etc.
And I may not even be posting this on the right Newsgroup.

Anyway, I am wondering....I have several friends a ways out in the

But it is still too expensive for them....long distance fees, etc.

Has there been developed yet....or in process....a bbs system run
out of say....a rural homestead with the normal computer setup but
plugged into a ham radio system which I believe is specifically
called "Packet Radio"....so that bbs members can converse just
as we do but via radio waves instead of phone lines.

Obviously such a system would be for public free access networks
such as cleveland free net or Internet, etc.  not for those which
require a subscription and time charge such as Compuserve, etc.

Any information on this would be appreciated.
-- 
            Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
From: gordon@pinetree.org (Gordon Dewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: FAQ for BBS's?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 09:05:53 EDT
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

golub@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Golub) writes:

> Is there an FAQ available on Internet for information *about* BBS's?
> Specifically , I'm interested in starting one for the medical school to run
> courses on, and I'd like to know what the main issues are, as well as what
> software can cross platforms (DOS and Mac).

I'm maintaining a list of BBS software, which I'm currently revising.  
Once the revisions are finished, I'll post to the group.

  --G

--
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  UUCP:  ...!pinetree!gordon                  | BBS Software FAQ should go to
  Fidonet: 1:163/305.7    IMEx: 89:483/1187   |    bbs-review@pinetree.org
  Gordon's Pinetree --  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada -- +1 613 526 0702 -- 2400 MNP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: lundberg@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Andrew Jon Lundberg)
Subject: Re: Another WWIV Question...
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:01:21 GMT

zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman) writes:

>How does WWIV handle externals (ie. doors) on a multi-line system? With 
>only one physical copy of the code, how does it keep track of what it's 
>executing for each node?


>---
>The opinions I express are rarely my own, because my own are far too
>outragous to post here.

>IntNet:zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com    FutureNet: #33@#10
>The Metropolis (614)-846-1911
>---

Because most (okay, all) external program for WWIV are currently not multi
user compatible, locking is performed on chains (externals, doors) so that
only one node has access to a chain at a time. Once a user enters a chain,
that chain becomes unavailable to other nodes until they leave the chain.
I have the name of the chain shown in parenthesis to indicate it is not 
available at the moment if the user lists the chains.

Andrew
aka Arc Angel
WWIVnet 1@3144
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Another WWIV Question...
Keywords: WWIV multi node line
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:54:42 GMT

In article <4dfntgc.tweek@netcom.com> tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield) writes:
|In article <1992Aug28.031750.23443@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cnanayak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chevan Nanayakkara @ Nyx) writes:
|>
|>One more question.  How many people have tried the Internet <=> WWIVnet
|>gateway for mail?  How long on average does it take
|
|a lot of the delay happens on the UUCP side.  A lot of the gateways
|around are two or more hops off of the internet.

wwiv.redbeard.com is one hop off the Internet.  However, I still don't know if
505 is back in WWIVNet... send to <num>-<node>@wwiv.redbeard.com if you want
to give it a try.

  Bill
-- 
Bill Fenner	fenner@cs.psu.edu	..psuvax1!hogbbs!wcfpc!wcf
		wcf@hogbbs.scol.pa.us   (+1 814 238-9633 v.32bis)
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Ezycom Doors. (Where to FTP from?)
Date: 30 Aug 1992 15:13:26 GMT
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <1992Aug31.005917.4859@ecl.psu.edu>, krc@ecl.psu.edu writes:
> Are there any anonymous FTP sites that have some decent game doors?  If you
> know of any please reply via E-Mail, thanks!
> 
> Keith Connors
> krc@eclx.psu.edu

You let me know if you find any... I have looked very hard and havden't found
very many at all.  The Door Distribution system via FIDONET is a good way to
start.  You may file request the magic name, "FILES" from Al's Cabin BBS if
you are a node in FIDONET and then look through that list.  Find what you
want (Limit to three games a night, please! due to extreme use his system gets)
and file request those from his node.  Simple, huh?  

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Grady @The HAM Connection      Internet: lairdpg@lub001.lama.edu
FIDONET /PRIVATE               Node: 1:19/49.0
The American Widget - One of the few things left that is made in the USA.  But
just give Japan time, they will steal the plans and stamp "made in Japan" on
the bottom of it!!
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: bbs standards
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:02:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.132806.8699@qiclab.scn.rain.com> 70465.203@compuserve.com writes:
|Well, I know that CIS runs on something *really* odd (a heavily modified
|version of one of the old DEC OSes, as I recall)

Yes, CI$ user ID's still look like the good ol' project,programmer# of TOPS-10.
I think they got rid of them a little while ago, but CI$ was at one point the
biggest PDP-10 installation in the world.

  Bill
-- 
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		wcf@hogbbs.scol.pa.us   (+1 814 238-9633 v.32bis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: bbs standards
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:58:52 GMT

From article <1992Aug28.2065.678@channel1>, by "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>:
> Gee, Willard, I thought we were talking about *BBS's*.  I
> guess both you and Larry should sit down and read a good BBS list.
> Neither of you has apparently had any contact with DOS BBS's in
> 3 or 4 years.  Try the USBBS list.  Count the number of multi-line
> BBS's, compare it to Nixpub, and get back to us.

	*chuckle*  Exactly what I've been trying (perhaps unsuccessfully)
to say :)

> It's always interesting how everyone views the world through their
> own little window.  Internet is just another somewhat larger window.
> RFC "standards" have about as much chance of prevailing as Fidonet
> ..msg format.
> 
> Novell (MHS/GME), Lotus (VIM) and Microsoft (MAPI) will determine
> the future of electronic mail standards.  Gateways and X.400 will
> glue it all together.
> 
	True.  While the "howses" and "whatis" of a BBS are determined
by the user, these "standards" of mail transferal are unfortunately going
to be forced down our throats like Windows, OS/2 and so many other "standards".
What do the above see when they look at computer networks and the ways
that they tranfer mail/files?  They see the way the internet does it 
, the way Fidonet does it, and I'm certain there are a few (albiet smaller)
networks which do it differently! 

	If we as BBS programmers, and interested operators/users from
all platforms can get together, say "This is how we are going to transfer
mail/graphic interfaces/etc", implement it, and truly make it a standard,
we shouldn't have to put up with MHS/GME, VIM, MAPI (unless of course,
we WANT to *grin*).  If the internet, fidonet, and all of the xxnets are
linked by the common thread of just message transferal, the corperate
giants that we dispise so much (yet spend so much on buying their stuff *grin*)
won't have much of a choice but to go along with it...
 
 TTYL
 Chris
 "Performing an excercise in futility"

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
From: arumble@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Anthony Rumble)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Comittee and Graphics
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 11:51:25 GMT

greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:

>Well, while you people are forming your committee;  one thing I'd like to see
>formed as some sort of standard is an ADEQUATE graphics/windowing systems for
>BBSes and low-bandwidth systems.  IE, something that could actually work over
>2400 baud (or maybe even 9600, since 2400 is probably headed the way of the 300
>baud modem...)

>I'm tired of being restricted in not being able to utilize graphics and meeses
>(plural of mouse) (*my* plural of mouse :-) on the various platforms that exist
>out there, and I don't relish the idea of making a front end for all those
>bloody platforms.


I have done this.. I have an experiemental BBS system running here in Australia
that does all of what you mentioned above..

I am finding it hard thought to continue the project due to lack of support..
Unfortunately it seems that most sysops (Especially over here) are more
interested in how they can get it for nothing, than actually supporting it..

(You would be amazed at the number of Beta tester offers I got..
none of them wanted to pay anything of course!)

Anyway.. If there is *ANY* real systems out there who would like to get
working a BBS system that supports Full Graphics, with Mouse, Icons
Bit-Maps etc etc.. Which is VERY fast even at low-speed (2400).
(Ive had a lot of people comment that it sure beats ANSI_)

Then gimme a yell, and we will see what I can do...

If I can make it worth while enough, I may be able to put my Full Time
towards it, and really have a good system going..


-- 
Anthony Rumble
aka SmilieZ
"Anything is possible.. If there is enuf money in it"
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Another WWIV Question...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:39:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.142019.26567@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> lundberg@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Andrew Jon Lundberg) writes:
>
>I know a mod for such a major change is a difficult method of getting multiple
>nodes in WWIV (for most sysops). I am perfectly willing to let wayne look at, 
>copy, and use this code to make stock WWIV multiline (as long as he continues 
>to release the code). I imagine this is the case for most people who release 
>mods for WWIV.

I don't think he'd do that.  If Wayne starts using other people's code, 
there may be copyright problems, since he's getting all the money for it.
Look at the Quote mod for example... I've been using Goose's version for 
a long time, but the new official quoting implemented in 4.21a is nothing
like it.  (I'm still using Goose's... since most editors can't yet handle
the "official" version).

-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
From: "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: bbs standards
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:58:35 EST
Reply-To: "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

-> Perhaps you'd care to consider some real dial-up text/file services
-> (like CIS or Delphi) rather than the "multi-line" bbs's most persons
-> have in mind (dinky little six or twelve line systems, as compared to
-> hundreds of lines).. any guesses as to the system hardware/software
-> they use?  I'd lay you some very good odds they're not running on a
-> stinkin' PC with MS-DOS!  (And that would be highly unfair, at least
-> insofar as Delphi is concerned, as I already know

Compuserve?  Genie?  Delphi?

Gee, Willard, I thought we were talking about *BBS's*.  I
guess both you and Larry should sit down and read a good BBS list.
Neither of you has apparently had any contact with DOS BBS's in
3 or 4 years.  Try the USBBS list.  Count the number of multi-line
BBS's, compare it to Nixpub, and get back to us.

-> Who cares?  What does selection of OS have to do with any discussion
-> of so-called "BBS standards?"  Just what aspects of bbs
-> operation/implementation would we need to have standardized?  What
-> would be the benefits and drawbacks to accepting those standards?
-> What hidden agendas are at work?  Is there a conspiracy?  Can it
-> possibly get more interesting?

It's always interesting how everyone views the world through their
own little window.  Internet is just another somewhat larger window.
RFC "standards" have about as much chance of prevailing as Fidonet
.msg format.

Novell (MHS/GME), Lotus (VIM) and Microsoft (MAPI) will determine
the future of electronic mail standards.  Gateways and X.400 will
glue it all together.
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA