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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: pitbulls
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:19:53 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<1992Oct6.125701.7150@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> <23828@alice.att.com>
<7OCT92.12414397@wums.wustl.edu> <7OCT199213240281@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu>
<7OCT92.16034934@wums.wustl.edu>
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: 
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

In article <7OCT92.16034934@wums.wustl.edu> trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
  About a pit-bull in a training class.....
>       The dog was not obviously mean but obviously
>       over bred-it was extremely undersized and didn't shake but 
        ^^^^^^^^^
>       *vibrated* all the time.  

Bev: What does "over-bred" mean in this context..or any other, for that
matter? This is not a term that dog breeders or geneticists use. Do you mean
"in-bred" here? If so, how is in-breeding (ie mating two closely related
animals such as brother-sister, father-daughter, etc) inherently responsible
for the animal's faults? Now, if you had written, "poor breeding practices", I
would likely concur.
*********************
Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfoundlands, Tipp City OH


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From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dog and Cats: The story of Butch and Kat
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:27:09 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

I just had to write about my adventures with dogs and cats after
hearing everyone else's!

We used to have what was called an American Bulldog (part
Pitt and part English Bulldog is what we were told) and we had
a cat who had lost a leg (leg had been broken and would not heal).
The dog was Butch and the cat was Kat.  *laugh* Typical names eh?

They adored one another!  We would look out the window and you 
would always see one of two things.  Either Butch was lying there
with Kat's head completely in his mouth, Kat just lying there
as if it were the most fun thing to do in the world....OR you
would see Butch walking around, with Kat on his back riding like
a small child would a pony!  *laugh*  It was hilarious....
too bad they did not have America's Funniest Videos then...
I think we would have won!  *smile*

I can't remember which one we had first, but they did grow older 
together.  And they really loved each other.....I have never seen
a dog and cat love one another liek these two did.  We never really
did anything to help them find these feelings, it just kind
of happened.  We lived in the country and although the animals
were outside animals, they were trained to stay close by.  Kat
had plenty of places to go, had they not gotten along, but we
were glad they did.

Good luck!  Sorry if this wasn;t any help, but I thought you may
enjoy the story.

Suzanne
From: deannab@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Deanna Bergstrom)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:28:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Carpet Cleaners
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

Nature's Miracle works better than everything else I've tried over 
the years.  I think it's another enzyme cleaner but it seems to do
a better job of getting rid of the odor than some of the others.
It HASN'T always removed all of the discoloration, tho.

It has a "money back guarantee" and a phone number to call if you're
having problems with a particular spot.  I've never tried either.

Most pet supply places around here (Calif. Bay Area) and in Northern
Colorado (Ft. Collins, where I used to live) seem to carry it.  Even
some Grocery stores have it.

Deanna
From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: And what kind of dog is that?
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:11:11 GMT
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Are we still doing funny breed-misID stories? If so...

I was walking in a not-so-great area of town once with my black lab, Murphy.
While I was waiting at a corner, some guys came over and asked if my dog
was a Rottweiler - I said "Yes, he is"!
Another time I was at a street festival with Murphy and heard a mother
tell her kid not to go near "the Doberman" - we were the only dog in
sight!


Then there was the folks whose friendly Bernese Mtn. Dog came over to me
to say hi. When I told them what a lovely "Berner" he was, they got all
huffy and said "He's NOT a St. Bernard, he's a Bernese Mtn. Dog" 
Sheesh. (All the BMD folks *I* know call them "Berners")

************************************************************
* jane jackson and murphy b. lab, Am/Can CD, WC, CGC, TDI  *
* jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu                                *
*                                                          *
* standard disclaimer applies...                           *
************************************************************
From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Faery Rings
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:20:54 GMT
Organization: WINCO

In article <13760019@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> suew@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Sue Wood) writes:
>A friend of mine calls the doggie-induced brown spots on the lawn 
>"faery-rings". I don't know if that's a common term or not, but
>I get a giggle out of it.   The term that is; the dead grass is
>not all that funny.
>
>So .... does anyone know a good solution to this problem.  I suspect this
>is better asked in a gardening notesgroup, but this group surely has had
>some experience with this.

No solutions, other than the one poster who suggested lime.  Sounds like a
good possibility.  I'll have to try it.

As to faery-rings, I believe these are actually caused by a fungus living
in the ground.  As the fungus grows (roughly circular), it somehow makes
more nitrogen available to the lawn around its perimiter, causing a much
greener growth of the lawn.  As the fungus grows, the ring broadens. 
Eventually, you can see mushrooms pop up in the area.  This is different
that the brown spots caused by dog urine, which also have a bright green
perimeter.  First, the true faery-rings do not kill the lawn inside the ring. 
Second, the bright green ring around the dog spots will not expand much,
certainly not as much as a true faery-ring.  The bright green area around
the dog spots delimits the area where the beneficial effects of the nitrogen
in the urine begin and the toxic effects of the urine end.

End of botany lesson :-)

---Dale
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke)
Subject: Re: Dogs in Pick Up Trucks AGAIN
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:28:12 GMT

In article <92285.113756U58664@uicvm.uic.edu> Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
[opening deleted to save bandwidth]
>I was walking Beast this morning.  We live in Chicago, definately an
	That's a great name for a dog - have you seen the latest
"Good dog Carl" book, "Carl's Masqurade?"  Carl and the baby
go to a masque as Beauty  and the Beast


>[tale of pickup w/dog in back deleted]
>HOW STUPID! One quick stop or swerve to avoid a pot hole, and that dog
>was destined for disaster.  I cannot believe the contempt that person
>obviously has for his dog's safety and well being.  It was an accident
>waiting to happen. I was really upset and yelled at the guy, but of course
>he never heard me at all.  What can be done about ignorant, non-deserving
>dog owners like that???

	Unfortunatly, there are laws on the books that don't get enforced.
driving arround the Reservations, it is not uncommon to see children 
riding loose in the back of a pick-up, and every year, several die from
being bounced out.  The fact is, many people don't THINK about the
danger of a pick-up's bed.

>
>I'd like to add, that we also own a pick up truck.  Beast loves to go for
>rides, and he rides in the cab with us.  The only time I ever allow him
>to be in the bed is WITH me, leashed, sitting down at all times,
>in nice weather, and for very very short trips when my husbands runs
>errands.

	Joan and I drive a truck.  We have a cap on it, and a 
soft rubber mat to give the dogs traction.  They ride back there
on down stays.  We still prefer to have them in the cab with us, 
but sometimes they get so muddy playing, it's not really an option.

Jack Smoke
In 1492, Native Americans discovered Colombus lost at sea.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dog
From: "Samuel O. Swett" <ssbc+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:05:29 -0400 
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

   I love my dog Puddy.
From: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: show "trophies"
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:04:12 GMT
Reply-To: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Find a craftsperson who can do some work for you.  Such as:
Stained glass
Quilted pieces
Sketches
Small pieces of jewelry
Wooden cutouts
etc.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kzuga@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karen Zuga)
Subject: Pet Peeves and Eating Stool
Summary: Puppy or adult, bacterial infections
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:42:13 GMT

I am going to respond to two threads.  I, too, have a stool eating dog and I 
have not been able to get her to stop searching for her "brownies".  I do, 
however, watch her very carefully now.  This summer we both got a bacterial 
infection, "campy" is the nickname, camphlobacter, I believe, the real name.  
Her habit of eating stool may have caused the infection.  The infection caused 
diahrea and vomiting.  Before she was diagnosed, I had cleaned up several 
accidents without wearing gloves (who does at 3:00 AM?).  I, too, had all of 
the symptoms and took a round of antibiotics.  I don't know how to stop the 
stool eating habit, but vigilance is a necessity.  Amber suffered a good deal 
this past summer.

On a lighter note, Amber is a 4 pound Yorkie with floppy ears and and a short 
coat (easier to maintain).  I am forever getting asked "What a cute puppy, how 
old is it?"  I really enjoy responding with her adult age; it often starts a 
pleasant conversation.:-)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: cotton@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (carol.jean.swanson)
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:08:12 GMT


Ofcourse, you can always get an unusual breed.
I'm usually bowled over when someone comes up to me
and KNOWS our dog is a Basenji.  The typical conversation
is 
Them: "What kind of dog is that?" 
Me: "A Basenji" 
THEM: ...big time blank stares..."A what?"
ME: "The African barkless dog." 
THEM: ..."IT DOESN'T BARK?!!"
And the whole reason they even ask about the dog is
'cause of its curly tail......

-- Carol Mount
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: MISPKB1@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Re: Rottweilers or something else?
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:50:02 GMT

   Barbara if you compete in obedience you know that a Dobe
taking a jump is far more attractive then a chunky rot.  I
have also have seen far more temperment problems in rots then
dobes.  Perhaps because the rot is the 'now' breed.  Anyone
considering a Dobe does have to beware that there are several
health problems in the breed.  I find my friends dogs out of
champion lines have more problems then any other Dobes I
know.  Ask about thyroid, VWD, and hips when getting a dobe.
Heart problems in the line may also be a problem.  THese
may also be problems in rots.  Does anyone know?
  The Greyhound on the other hand ranking 113 in popularity by
the AKC is a very healthy dog.  I have also talked to many
Whippet people and their breed is also very healthy.  Before
you get a dog talk to people who own the breed who have
nothing to gain by not telling you the truth.  You may also
want to subscribe to the breeds national newsletter in which
they usually discuss the problems with the breed.  A friend
who bought a Bermese Mountain Dog found out after purchashing
the dog that this is a very high risk dog for cancer.  She
was sick seeing memorials for 2 and 3 yr old dogs.
good luck.........Pamela
In article <15OCT199214353533@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu>
broy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Barbara Roy) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Oct15.011108.10601@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp writes...
>>> If you have never trained a dog before, I would NOT recommend a Rottweiler as
>>> a first dog to try. They are MUCH more of a challenge to train than the majority
>>> of breeds. There are many more breeds more suitable to a first time dog owner.
>>> You would be setting yourself up for a big disappointment and could ruin an
>>> otherwise good dog.
>>
>>You think so, eh?  So what would be the most suitable and similar dog in your
>>opinion?  I do like most everything I have heard about Rotts, and I think they
>>are about the best-looking breed around.  Any suggestions?  Perhaps a visit to
>>the pound/Humane Society would be the best route?
>>
>>			-Matt
>
>I meant to suggest that a Rottweiler is not a good first dog to try to train.
>There are many other breeds that are "softer" temperamented than a Rott and
>would be good obedience prospects - good first dogs to practice your training
>skills on. As for breeds, poodles, shelties, terriers in general, golden
>retrievers, collies, are all "softer" types and therefore easier to discipline
>than a Rottweiler. However, if you want a protective breed, I have found the
>Doberman to be FAR easier to handle than a Rottweiler (and almost as handsome).
>
>Barbara Roy, University of Iowa, Weeg Computing Center, Iowa City, IA.  52242
>Internet:   broy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu or Barbara-Roy@uiowa.edu
>Bitnet:     broyva@uiamvs.bitnet
>Disclaimer: My opinions are solely my own and may change daily.
From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: American College of Vet Surgeons (was Re: Someone please help me...)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:35:46 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.014612.29927@netcom.com> tomrice@netcom.com (Tom R. Rice) writes:
==> 	He's a graduate of the American College of Veterinary Surgeons
==> 	and that just might be the place to inquire.  If you were here
==> 	in the SF Bay area, I'd recommend the guy instantly.  If you
==> 	want to e-mail me (I don't get to this newsgroup very often),
==> 	I'll be happy to call him up for a referral or advice on
==> 	whom to contact.  

just to clarify, the American College of Veterinary Surgeons
is not a college/university from which one graduates, but rather
a professional association ("college" as in "colleagues" and all).
veterinary surgical specialists have as a title "Diplomat of
the American College of Veterinary Surgeons."

i once asked our surgeon what is required.  it's three years
of training at a vet school after one is a certified veterinarian,
then passing an extremely difficult exam (he said it's one of those
that no one passes completely on the first try, but over 2-3 times
you can get through) plus publication of a major research paper.

we accidentally tripped into the word of surgical specialists
when our vet practice in florida hired one in, and the other
vets stopped doing any surgery.  since moving to california,
both the rabbit and the dog have been referred to the local
surgeon (the rabbit for three operations, but the surgeon
decided the dog didn't need surgery).  it's been very
illuminating -- surgery done by one of these folks is a lot
more expensive than surgery done by a regular vet, but for
the extra money you get not only an extremely well-trained
person who does nothing but operations, you also get state-of-
the-art facilities and a full surgical staff.  it seems like a
good way to stack the deck in ones favor.

vets and vet students on the net, did i get the facts right?
what do you guys think about using surgical specialists for
"routine" surgeries?  for some surgeries, one has no choice --
like when my rabbit had to have her achilles tendon reattached,
my regular vet (who is absolutely superb) said the operation
was way beyond her abilities.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (r l taylor)
Subject: Re: 3-Legged Frisbee dog!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:05:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.154720.996@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke) writes:
>I sat at my terminal this morning debating.  On the one hand, 
>I figure no-one really cares about my dog's triumphs but me, and on the 

Sure we do!

>	Jake, my Border Collie, has only three legs.  He lost
>the right front one last year, trying to herd a car.  It hasn't
>affected hhim much - truth to tell, he hardly realizes it's missing.

>	Last weekend, we attended another compitition, and Jake and I took
>Third place!  Not bad for the second time out of the barn, Hum?

Not bad at all!  Congratulations!  And thanks for sharing your story...
Every so often, someone posts a question about the quality of life for
a three-legged dog.  I think Jake's success will be an encouragement to
anyone facing that situation.

Roberta
...And the DoberGoofs ("What?  You want us to bring the Frisbee *back*???")

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand)
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:44:08 GMT

In article <2AD1F8DC.16785@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>In <1687883CF.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>>
>>You are both making the assumption that it is OK for a kid to come
>>into my yard for any reason.  If you want to make that assumption,
>>then you are welcome to.  But it's not OK for me.  That's why I have a
>>chain link fence (with a locked gate) around my yard (note that this
>>eliminates the "toddler" coming in my yard).  And if a kid big enough
>>to climb a fence is dumb enough to climb in anyway with my 2 dogs
>>barking their heads off at him, then HE DESERVES TO GET BIT!  PERIOD.
>


>You have *labs* that bite?
>
>--Cindy



OOOOOH!  Is Chris using a dog for a purpose other than the one it was
bred for?  OOOOOOH!  No doubt that by using a lab (who should only be
used for hunting!) as a "guard-dog", he is single handedly perverting the
breed ;^)  

Seems the shoes on the other foot now Chris...

:^) :^) :^)

-Carol
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: My dog ate Saran Wrap last night (but I got it back and he's fine now)
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 15 OCT 92 12:12:10    

Last week I told you about the dog I adopted from the Humane Society.  
Well, last night he ate a big piece of Saran Wrap.  I had dropped a 
hunk of cheese wrapped in Saran Wrap on the floor and didn't realize 
it until I heard Rufus munching on it.  I yelled 'GIVE!' immediately 
which actually may have been a mistake because then he slinked off 
trying to keep it.  I should have got a hold of him first then said 
it.

Anyway, by the time I caught up to him he had swallowed it - probably 
a little faster than he intended to but he didn't want to let me take 
it away from him.

I called the emergency vet's office and was told I should get some 
hydrogen peroxide down his throat with a turkey baster.  Well, he 
didn't like that at all.  Finally, I put the hydrogen peroxide in a 
bowl with 2-3 nuggets of dog food and he just lapped the whole thing 
up.  (Can you believe that dog - he'll eat anything!)

Well, a couple of minutes later he 'gave back' the Saran Wrap.  He's 
find now.  Lot's of appetite - very vigorous.  I'll tell you though, 
if someone had told me a year ago that I'd be digging through dog vomit 
for a piece of Saran Wrap I'd have thought he was nuts.

JGH
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
Subject: Boise Dog Show
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:29:09 GMT

Is anyone on the net going to be at the Boise, Idaho shows this
week?  Let me know.  I'd love to meet any of you who might be there.
My Newf and I will be trying to complete her CDX!  Keep your
fingers crossed for us.
-- 
   Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
   abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
   Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
			        | prominent positions in the community.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jsimon@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Simon)
Subject: Missing subject header
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:14:55 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


I've got a 2 year old yellow lab who sheds profusely.  At first I thought it
was that he was just loosing his puppy coat, but after 2 years, it isn't
getting any better.  Somebody I talked to thought that it might be a lack
of fat (moisture?) in his food....he's currently getting Pro Plan (switched
from Science diet about 18 months ago).  Can anybody suggest a food
that has a higher fat content?  Or, any other ideas about what might be
causing this excessive shedding?

Thanks much
Jerry (Tired of living in a furry house) Simon


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From: smm1@troy.uucp (22142-michelson)
Subject: Re: Stool-Eating (yuk)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:23:43 GMT

In article <21263@drutx.ATT.COM> rnt@drutx.ATT.COM (Diane Thomas) writes:
>
>
>Re:  Ruth Ginzberg's dog eating cat/racoon/etc. 
>     tootsie rolls. 
>
>Let your dog eat them.  My dog gets horribly
>nauseous whenever I change her dog food, 
>yet she seems to thrive on cat and coyote turds.  
>I've given up prying them from her mouth - now
>I just gag and let her eat them.
>
>If it causes problems for dogs, I'd be interested
>to know.

Well, eating dog feces and other crap is one way that a dog can get
whipworm. Whipworm is not fatal, and is easily treatable, but it can
cause severe diahrea until it is diagnosed and treated. My dog had it
for a few days before the vet figured out the cause of the diahrea. My
advice is to discourage them from eating stool, but even if they do,
rather than stick your hand in and get it out (yuck!), don't worry too much
about it.




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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Rottweilers/Breeders/Central Ohio
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:05:53 GMT

After Posting my Rottweiler questions, then seeing you from Tipp City, OH...I
have to wonder how far that is from Columbus (where I live in the summers and
probably after graduation) and if you know if there are any (relatively) local
breeders of Rott's to the Columbus area?  I won't be contacting them
immediately, but it will be useful information to have if you do know of any..
:-)


			-Matt