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From: franko@cco.caltech.edu (Frank Filipanits)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: On tubes vs. transistors; a few misconceptions revealed
Date: 19 Nov 1992 04:54:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In response to my post,
>>It is patently untrue that a tube has a finite number of particles that are
>>being boiled off, the idea being that once you run out the tube dies.
>>Those particles are electrons, and they are supplied by electrical current.
>>You will not run out of electrons.

richardp@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Richard R Prince) writes:
>   The intent is good, but..... charge carrier in tubes is the electron but
>   the electrons are emitted from the material the cathode is made from.
>   To make emission "easier", the cathode is heated (the heater or filament
>   the "glow").  Over a period of time - both the available electrons and
>   the ability of the cathode material to supply electrons does diminish.

>   As the intent implies though... this is quite some time.

I don't want to chastise since I'm not sure exactly what you mean;
let me clarify my original statement further:

The cathode of a tube usually has a surface coating of barium oxide or
thoriated tungsten to increase the emission of electrons (make it easier for
them to jump off the surface of the cathode and flow towards the plate).
The grid controls this rate of flow.  

The cathode is heated  (either by a seperate coil, or it itself is the 
filament) in order to give the electrons on the surface the energy necessary
to pop off the surface and float around.  HOWEVER.  Every electron that
is "boiled" off the surface is immediately replaced by the current flowing
(thank you Ben franklin for getting the sign convention wrong) out of
the cathode.  If the electrons were sourced from the material itself,
	a> you would not need to hook the cathode up to anything
	b> you would wind up with a VERY large electrostatic attraction
	   between the cathode and everything else REAL QUICK (microseconds)

Remember folks, those electrons have to come from somewhere, and what IS
current?  Flow of charge (electrons) per unit time.  You are piping in
those electrons from circuit ground, sending them into flight from the
cathode to the anode, then piping them back up to the positive terminal
of your power supply (which then forces them back to ground).

It IS true that with time, both the heater element and the cathode surface
degrade and therefore create fewer "free" electrons.  But this is because
they are less efficient at boiling them off, not because of a shortage
of electrons in the material itself.
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From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Fender StratoFAQ
Organization: Ripoff Industries
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:26:08 GMT

>I can supply more detail about my guitar for those that wish, or other
>information about the Fender Custom Shop.

	custom shop info very welcome..

	A lot of my info on this strat subject comes right from this
	A. Duchossoir book that Mic is mentioning. 

>>have the book with me.) of Fender debunks the theory that serial numbers
>>or neck dates can be used as a definitive method for acurately dating any
>>Fender guitars especially when it is the neck plate that carries the
>>serial number.

	True. I think that there is not a 100% way of determining a strat's
	birthday. It is a combination of neck date, body date, serial#,
	pot code, and features. 

	The serial number data gathered so far is fairly complex, but
	I think that in time it could be included in the FAQ. Volunteers
	for typing those tables in ? :) Is that kind of reproduction legal ?
	
	Why not a Les Paul FAQ too ? Or a Tele FAQ ?  

	Pasi
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From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai interview
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:27:28 GMT

In article <19NOV199223540042@rosie.uh.edu> inde7lo@jetson.uh.edu (BOB ABRAHAM) writes:
>I unfortunately missed the recent ROCKLINE interview with Steve Vai.  Did
>they play any new material from Steve?  Did he play anything "unplugged"
>during the interview?  If anyone made a recording of this interview, I
>would certainly appreciate someone mailing me a copy if it's not blatant
>copyright infringement.  I will pay for p/h and the cost of the cassette.
>If anyone can help me, you can let me know by personal email.

	I was going to request one also, but I think maybe someone with
LOTs of time should post it.  Or, just send me a copy, I'll pay also!

Alex
stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu
From: plyall@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Pete Lyall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Question about recording a guitar track...
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:00:08 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies

In article <1992Nov20.011419.9449@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> sihd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dan Shimmyo) writes:
>In <1992Nov18.144956.25293@cc.umontreal.ca> brunetm@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Brunet Martin) writes:
>
>>In article <9211172338.aa27189@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> hoijoonk@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I'm in the process of buying a preamplifier, 'cuz I need to record some
>>>guitar lines on my four track.  I've tried miking my Randall RG80, but
>>>didn't like the sound NOR the hassle.  I heard from someone that I can
>>>get rid of a lot of the noise by recording through a preamp straight to
>>>the 4-track.  It really apeal to me since I do most of my recording at
>>>night, too  (Yes, my neighbors just adore me ;-)
>
>>  Me too, I'm in a mood of buying something and really need a pre-amp. I 
>>never deal with pre-amp for guitar but constantly searching for information
>>about them. I know that ADA, ART & DIGITECH made the most 'popular' pre-amp
>>but are they the best? If there is good comments about them? I think that
>>Mesa boogie, Marchall, .... pre-amp are very expensive and not wore there
>>value. Any suggestion or comments will be gratefully receive.       
>
>Hey Guy's,
>I think a good ,relatively affordable way to get nice recordings is to get a 
>Zoom 9002 or whatever. I have a 9002. I got it when it was still a new thing.
>Well, it's great because it has tons of stereo effects and a pretty decent 
>distortion. I'm sure it would be an incredible improvement over miking a 
>Randall.  

Ahhh... this is true. While I do use a RED BOX on the Fender and
Crate's, the Zoom sounds great direct. I sometimes use a little EQ
either in the board or in an outboard EQ to give it a little more
edge, but overall, the 9002's a marvel.

Pete Lyall

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From: math1rb@elroy.uh.edu (92F07486)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Which Fender?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:14 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1e6l1pINN9f0@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, watson_mj@med.wcc.govt.nz writes...
>I considering buying a new elecric guitar to replace my existing one, 
>I can't afford an origanal strat, so I'm looking to buy either a 
>japanese or mexican, version. I played a mex in a shop, and was impressed, 
>but I haven't had an opportunity to try a japanese strat, yet...
> 
>Basically, I'd like to know your opinions of these guitars, and what some
>of the differences between them are(if any)...
> 
>My friend reckons that the problem with mex. strats is there often quite
>a variation in playing quality between individual guitars, ie the
>quality is inconsistent... 
> 
>Any opinions whould be appreciated...
> 
>Thx in advance,
>Matt

I play a Korean "Squier II", and it is a great semi-beginner guitar on
a budget. ON the other hand I spent a lot of time finding one I liked.
I was actually looking to get one of the American strat's the one's
around $500, but all the one's I played sounded lame. 
 As the story goes I was in a local guitar shop, and I was in the
testing room, having my wife bring in various guitars for me to try,
specifically Fenders. Well she brought one in, and I instantly loved it!
It had a wide range of tones (2-single coils, 1-humbucker) and it was
nice playing too.
 I've had the guitar for year, and it has held up pretty damn good for
all the abuse it gets. The down sides: 
	1) The body is a bit small
	2) the parts are of lower quality
	3) the tremolo just sucks (but I don't use it anyhow)
	4) the fret board width is a bit skinny, so its
           difficult to play with very large guage strings (11's and 12's).

I suggest just going out on several occasions, and being prepared to spen as 
much as possible, and just try out a lot of differnet guitars. And try to
play them through a rig similar to yours. BTW MAKE SURE YOU AT LEAST TRY
TO PLAY IT STRAIGHT THROUGH CLEAN TO A GOOD AMP. I've seen it all too
many times in shops where a salesman trying to sell someone a shit guitar
put through $5000 worth of racks and effects, and so you never know
what the true sound of the guitar is...
  Its been good for what I do so far, but I'm gonna move up to a 
bigger guitar sometime in the future, so I can string it with larger
guage strings, and so I can use the tremolo (actually vibrato) on the
guitar.
     Adios,
        dave

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From: kjs@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (Kevin J. Shuholm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Open E
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:08:08 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
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In article <1992Nov10.155035.21565@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> twalker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy M Walker) writes:
>
>I've pretty much decided to leave my acoustic tuned to open E most of the time.
>My question is, should I buy thinner ( => higher ) strings to make a->b d->e
>g->g# so that I won't have higher tension on those three strings?  I'm worried

You could leave it tuned to an open D instead and capo up 2 for tunes in
E.  tuning is d-a-d-f#-a-d.  


Kevin
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From: walt@diusys.noname (Walt Dabell)
Subject: Pahzer? Flanger? Chorus? 
Reply-To: walt@diusys.noname
Organization: U of Delaware, College of Marine Studies / Lewes
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:57:50 GMT

---

I play acoustic guitar, mostly 12-string. I have been looking at effects to
use when amplified. I have a phase shifter already. What would a phazer, 
flanger or chorus do for me that a phase shifter wont do? Whats the difference? 
Is one better to have over another? I was also thinking about a digital delay... 
Any comments? Suggestions?

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                  U of Delaware / College of Marine Studies
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From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Fender? Supro-Anyone know what this is?
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:44:18 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
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	As far as I know, Supro was an independent company, not
	affiliated with Fender anyhow. The speakers are probably
	replacements.

	Supros have a very good reputation: One of the most noted
	users is Jimmy Page. Yes, Pagey always recorded with a 
	Supro and left his Marshalls for stage work where more volume
	was needed and the subleties of tone were not such a concern.

				-jPM
	
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From: jkiparsk@reed.edu (Jonathan Kiparsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Shielding and grounding
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:41:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov17.114148.17262
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

I've had some trouble with noise on my electric. Part of it seems to be a
grounding problem- hum that quits when I touch the strings- and part of it 
seems to be faulty shielding. Can any of you gurus suggest ways to deal with
either of these problems?
-jon
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From: cdj@iti.org (Chris D. Jennings)
Subject: Opinions: DOD FX-54 "Attacker"
Summary: What do you think of this pedal? 
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:02:34 GMT


The other guitar player in my band is eyeing the DOD FX54 "Attacker"
compressor/distortion pedal in a catalog, and has asked me to ask
all of you to share your opinions of it.  Has anyone out there tried
it?  This friend is mostly interested in getting good quiet sustain
and (mostly) slight overdrive/distortion for blues, soul, and funk
music.

Thanks in advance,

- Chris

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From: donahn@borland.com (Don Ahn)
Subject: Re: Sounding Like Slash
Originator: donahn@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:26:16 GMT

I believe I read somewhere that Slash uses Marshalls and Boogies
to get his sound.  Supposedly, he has a Boogie combo up near his guitar
when he records so he can get singing Santana like feedback, and at
the same time, he has a signal split that goes to and isolated Marshall,
which gets miked and put on tape, thus he gets Boogie sustain with
Marshall tone.  I tend to believe this, since I haven't seen anyone get
the kind of sustain he does from Marshalls.

-Don Ahn


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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: YNGWIE MALMSTEEN
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:56:41 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <92323.124950KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu> Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Just wanted to get everyone's input on Yngwie. How do you rank him with other
>guitarists-he's at the very top of my list. For those who say "you can't
>compare guitarists" don't respond. Thanks, Kevin

    Very fast, almost no creativity or feeling, technically very good but
unimaginative.  Serious attitude problem (I read once that he said he knows
"pretty much everything there is to know about theory" - *please*) - if he
were as good as he thinks he is, I'd be really happy.
    10 years from now, no one will remember him, I predict.  That's the
test of an influential musician, IMHO.

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From: dmo2s@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (David M. Oxford)
Subject: Disabled Guitar Player
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:14:05 GMT

FROM: Russell V. Parrish
      HC1, Box 924
      Gloucester Point, VA  23062
      Phone: 804-864-6649 (day)
             804-642-5081 (night)




TO: Anyone

After an accident with a table saw, I am now an ex-guitar player
who cannot finger the strings of a guitar to form chords,
although I still have some use of the fingers of that hand.  The
other hand is fine, thankfully.  I am interested in building an
ELECTRONIC GUITAR, based on synthesizer technology, that would
function similarly to an auto-harp.  Buttons selected by the
left-hand would assign notes to strings played by the right-hand.

I am seeking assistance of any kind, from sources of information
(books, articles, etc.), catalogs for parts (buttons, switches,
microprocessors, synthesizers, etc.), to actual assistance in
making the instrument.  Any assistance would be welcome and
appreciated!

I have developed some basic initial concepts, but anything is
open for discussion.  I would prefer that the instrument be self-
contained rather than functioning as a MIDI-controller.  Chord
selection would be accomplished by depression of several buttons
which would assign a note to each string (requiring six
simultaneous voices).  The volume of each string would be
determined by a pickup of the vibratory activity of the
individual string.  Thus these several buttons would pick the
chord signature (A-G) while another button would control whether
the chord is major or minor, and still another button could
change it to a 7th.  Simultaneous depression of three buttons
could thus select, for example, an Am7 chord; two buttons, an Am
or an A7; or one button an A Major chord.  Additional program
change buttons could input a cap-like note bias or even a change
in instrument type.

Let me hear from you if you can help. 

-- 
David M. Oxford
dmo2s@virginia.edu
(804) 979-3792 (H)
(804) 980-0105 (W)
From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Heritage Guitar Head Stocks...Weird Looking?
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:35:52 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
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richard@purch.Columbia.NCR.COM wrote:
> In article <1992Nov14.120305.13403@klaava.Helsinki.FI> jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela) writes:
> >
> >	Finger style tailpieces?????
> >
> 
> 	I haven't actually messed with one but I believe the general
> 	concept is that you can adjust the tension on each string individually.
> 	In other words you can vary the length of the string behind the bridge
> 	on each string. I'd be curious to know how much of a difference this
> 	can make. Anybody know? The Gibson Johnny Smith model had this as well.
> 	I don't think that his D'Angelico had this and I know the Guild Johnny
> 	Smith (Artist Award) did/does not have this type of tailpiece. I think
> 	that the Gibson Kalamazoo model also had this type of tailpiece. 
> 	Anyone out there have any experience with this type of tailpiece?


	Oh, now I know what those finger style tailpieces are!

	If you can adjust the length of the part of the string behing
	the bridge, that does not do anything to the tension - that's 
	determined solely by the thickness, material and the pitch of
	the string. What you do adjust is the frequency (and note) the
	part of the string vibrates. And that contributes to the overall
	sound of the guitar. The part behind the bridge forms a kind of
	resonance thing, bit similar to those electric sitars with
	separate "sympathetic" strings, though the effect is not as
	pronounced. So, if you can adjust the tailpiece, you can adjust
	the resonant frequency.
	
	
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From: gistim@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tim Raebig)
Subject: Wanted: great amp tech in Chicago
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:50:22 GMT

Can someone recommend a really good tube amp tech in the 
Chicago area?  Preferably the South side or South suburbs.
I'd like to get the most out of my amp in terms of distortion.
Specifically getting a more metal tone with less fuzz on the 
bass side of things, especially if it doesn't mess with the 
Fender clean side.  BTW I have a Fender Twin Reverb II.  Also,
would replacing the caps in the reverb unit get rid of the noise?
If anyone has any experience, good or bad, I'd appreciate it.
From: tmr@cs.bham.ac.uk (Tim Read)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Finger noise on strings
Date: 21 Nov 92 12:53:31 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

I have a small problem I was hoping someone may have a solution to.

The problem is that when I am playing certain quiet bits of music on
my acoustic guitar, that involve a lot of left hand finger movement up
and down strings, there is an associated squeaking noise made by my
fingers rubbing against the metal strings. I can limit it a bit by
licking my fingers before playing the piece, but it is a pain. How do
others get around this problem? It is not always possible to remove
my fingers from the string, because the music is to fast.

Thanks,

 Tim
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From: pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G S Sutherland)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Gibson Les Pauls!
Summary: With MIII electrics. Anyone played one?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:24:23 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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Has anyone come across one of the Les Paul Classics with the MIII
electronics in them? If so, what are your opinions of it?

Secondly, how much does a PRS custom cost over in the States? (In
the UK they cost $3000 approximatly)

Thanks in advance.

	Graeme Sutherland.
From: lginzb@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Lionel Ginzburg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Fender? Supro-Anyone know what this is?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:30:10 GMT


The Supro amps date from the sixties.  Many well-known bands used them--
Jimmy Page still does, sometimes.  "Stairway to Heaven's" solo was
recorded on one.  

They are not Fenders, as far as I know, though Fender may have
eventually bought them.



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