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From: ccocsme@prism.gatech.EDU (StatMan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kevin Johnson played for...?
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:47:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  Can anyone tell me who the Suns's Kevin Johnson played for in college?
Also, What years did he play there?

Please reply to ccocsme@prism.gatech.edu

Thanks, Marty
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: them (cow) bells, Re: Trash talking %^$#@*)(
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:47:42 GMT

Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:

>For instance a friend of mine's husband is a UNC
>fan, while his brother-in-law is a Duke fan, and after Duke won again the
>National Championship, this over zealous fan painted DUKE #1 in dark blue
>OIL based paint in the front yard of the UNC fan's home. It ruined the
>grass because the paint was oil based instead of water based, and it
>polarized the family. 

Now hear this.  All this mayhem and strife could've been avoided if y'all
been plantin' (and mowin') *gen*u*ine* Kentucky bluegrass.  Why, it would
even look kinda purty, 'specially in full (blue) moon.  Still, your friend
coulda just painted a coupla more ones and maked it "#111" (which is where
them Wichita State belongs, if we is to judge from KU's *vo*lup*tuous*
score 'gainst 'em).  This would sorta put the pressure on your bro-in-law
once removed (prolly by painting " - 110 = 1") which would go a long ways
towards keeping the coastal hick vendetta goin' and teachin' neighborhood
kids 'rithmatic.  Just bein' thoughtful.  Spillin' blue oil paint for
religious purposes never hurt no one.

 > >On a side note and this is not a cheap attempt to talk
about a Carolina >victory, but I heard Mick Mixon (UNC radio announcer) on
some talk show.  >He said "it was great that the Heels won, but between the
drunken, in-bred >hillbillies, and the cow bells, I was ready to get out of
that place." I >guess the Miss. St. fans were really talking junk.

Hey, I would talk junk too, having to visit a basketball arena where the
home portion of the crowd consists of drunken, in-bred hillbillies, and the
cow bells.  Incidentally, do you have to pay separately for your cow bell
or is that only if you buy a seat for it?  Just curious.

				-- Marek
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From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: UC beats UMASS
Keywords: UC, Bearcats, UMass
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:39:51 GMT

In article <C0qvuD.zs@world.std.com> robert@world.std.com (Robert Sadowski) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.185943.17815@cybvax0.uucp> wbs@cybvax0.UUCP (William B. Solomon) writes:
>>For the record,  Cincinatti was the favorite in this game. Anywhere
>>from 1-1/2 to 3 points.  Coach Huggins lied to his team by telling
>>them that they were 5 point underdogs in order to motivate them.
>
>According to who ? This game went off at Cinci +3 1/2 
>
>>William Solomon
>
>--
>Robert Sadowski
>robert@world.std.com

umass!! was a 5 point favorite according to Jim Feist Sports Las Vegas
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: That was no lady ...
Keywords: (that was Mrs. Barry Wilson)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:50:50 GMT

In article <C0E1zE.15p@rice.edu> micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen)  
writes:

> Then there are some schools (St. John's is one example) where
> the team name is totally changed (from Redmen to Express) for
> the benefit of the women's team.

Does this mean that Kentucky's women's teams can change their
names from Lady Wildcats to Emory?

Seriously, I don't know why this is necessary, except maybe for
promotions or media consideration (avoiding confusion).  But 
having a different nickname for women's teams is IHMO wrong.

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From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Subject: Re: That was no lady ...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1icjulINN3m0@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:35:52 GMT

In article <1icjulINN3m0@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) wrote:
> Yeah, calling someone a lady cow is much more respectful than calling
> her a regular old cow :-)

Goobs is an authority on the subject:  A man living in a part of the country
with precious few two-legged females.
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From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Duke/Oklahoma
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:59:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.091000@trc.amoco.com> zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael) writes:
>
>In article <1ibfqpINNhcu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>> 
>> Well, Billy Tubbs must be some sort of basketball god to come into Cameron
>> and drive Duke into OT.  ;)
>> 
>
>I thought Oklahoma played valiantly. Duke is clearly an extremely talented team.
>Oklahoma was obviously underpowered, but played with great heart.  Few teams
>come back from 20 points down at Duke to challenge.

I watched the game and I'm not sure how they did it.  Duke looked unbeatable
from the last 5 min of the first half through the next 8 min of the 2nd half.
Duke could not have played any better than they did during that stretch.  But
OU showed great composure.  They weren't able to handle Duke's pressure on the
outside to get the kind of perimeter shooting they must have to stay toe to
toe with KU.  They came back with pure heart. 

What a great warm-up for the games that count:  Big 8 conference play.  I've always
laughed at the term "moral victory".  If there is such a thing I saw it last night.
If this OU team can play a little smarter, learn to handle the outside defensive
pressure a little better, and get a little bit more out of the referees, they can
win anywhere.  If they get hot in February, March might be interesting.  

Let's hope for a rematch in March.  (on a *neutral* court, of course) :-)

>While Terry Evans was highly disappointing, I thought that the performances
>turned in from the some of the younger players were quite good.  Oklahoma can
>go a long way this season if they can keep their players playing well
>consistantly.  That will be the defining challenge. 

What about the 360 Slam late in the game?  I thought it was stupid, but I loved
it just the same.  Talk about in your face, Blue Devils.

>------------MIke-------

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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The Pick (was Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!)
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:35:31 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1993Jan12.143538.11153@dg-rtp.dg.com> willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen) writes:
>In article <8490@news.duke.edu>, rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan11.012510.12394@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>>
>> Okay dude, next time we're on the playground, and I'm setting a pick and
>> as you come by I deliver a forearm to your head, just remember that was
>> no foul.
>> >
>> >Mike Dunnagan ---
>
>You obviously didn't see the same replay that I saw 30 or 40 times.  Mackey's
>forearms came nowhere near Hurley's head.  If Mackey had thrown a forearm that
>leveled Hurley like that, he would've and should've been thrown out of the
>game, and I'm sure that at least one of the Duke players or coaches would've
>had something to say about it.  If Mackey did anything that warranted the foul
>call, and I still don't think it was a foul, he lifted his arms up a bit as 
>Hurley hit him.

	He also turned his body towards Hurley as Hurley ran into him.  Mal-
icious or not, deliberate or not, reflexive or not, that make it a foul.

>Royce Willmschen                    
>willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com
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From: tt@wag.caltech.edu (Toshi Takeuchi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Any tOSU-Iowa opinions?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:26:13 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Ca
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sgi1.wag.caltech.edu

I'm starving for some more info on the game this last Saturday.
All I know is that we won and Greg Simpson scored 23 points.

*sigh*  All I get is Pac-10 stuff out here...

Thanks.
From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:48:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <C0rIrz.KwD.2@cs.cmu.edu> landay+@cs.cmu.edu (James A Landay) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.205139.20440@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>>
>>If I remember right, Bryant Walton didn't lose his touch until
>>his senior year and he even got it back together in the last few games.
>
>Not true at all.  His best years were his first two.  By his third
>year Lou had given his job to Drew and he got to play less and less
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Was this perhaps when Drew had his good shooting year?
Or maybe the year after when expectations were still high for Drew?

>until in his senior year he began getting almost NO time until the
>very end when he showed he could still do it.  If Lou had given him
>a break earlier that team might have done better.  He was a better player
>than Keith Smith during their freshmen year.

So Keith Smith *did* improve under Campanelli, right?

>Right, but that is NOT the only time it happened and Fisher is not
>the only player to do it.  It has happened repeatedly in key situations.

You can blame the coach.  I can blame the player(s).  
Someone else might give credit to the other teams defense.

>>>>I don't blame the coach when players lose their shooting ability.
>>>
>>>I do.  They lose their confidence, NOT ability.
>>
>>Did you *see* Ryan Drew play?  He shot the lights out his freshman year.
>>He came back the next 3 seasons and made what seemed like 15% of his
>>3 pointers.
>
>Yes, almost every home game of his career and almost any I could get on
>TV.  So you think he LOST his ability?  Someone cut off his arms or what?
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, or perhaps opposing coaches didn't make a point of guarding him
closely during his first season.  I think this could also account
for Walton and Dreher's problems.  

After his first year, Drew would miss shot after shot.  Even on a rare 
day when he hit two in a row he would then go on to miss the next 4 of 5.
I don't mean to pick on Ryan, but if you ask me, Campanelli was a little
*too* patient with Drew in trying to get his confidence back.
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: #1 UK/Vandy thoughts
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:49:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Most UK fans are very uncomfortable about the upcoming Vandy game.  Lets
face it, UK has taken some darned good teams in there and failed to win over
the years.  IMHO, this is the best Vandy team EVER, and I'm sure Coach
Squiggey is going to have them ready. ;)
Mike
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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA/Arizona
Keywords: Quick summary
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:39:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1993Jan8.194129.10152@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>
>I watched the entire game, and have watched all of the UA-UCLA games for 
>several years.  UCLA has always had an average man-defense and a nearly 
>non-existent zone.  UCLA was playing zone (why?) for most of the final 
>ten minutes.

As Scott Turner pointed out, they were protecting Petruska who had 4 fouls
at the time. Considering how poorly he had played, and that Zona had Mills,
Stoudamire and Reeves to shoot over the zone it was a bad decision. As Scott
pointed out, UCLA's guards let Stoudamire drive the middle repeatedly against
the zone which shows how little they play(and probably practice) zone.

Interestingly, Petruska rebounded with a real good game against ASU on Saturday
using his size to overpower them down low. Game was closer than I expected
I think it ended 87-83 UCLA. O'Bannon had 24 and 12 boards, Dempsey continued
to play better with 8 off the bench, it looks like he will fit the bill of
3rd guard we need.


>Ted




Russ Smith
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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: SWC info?
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:25:05 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan11.163459.632@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> bsutesch@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Will someone please post some information on how the
>SWC is doing?

They're not.

- Rob Mac K



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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Suffridge)
Subject: Arkansas injuries
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 17:35:05 GMT


 Does anyone know when/if Corliss Williamson and Craig Tyson are
 going to play this year?
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From: erwinaw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Anthony W Erwin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight: A Year-by-Year Chronology
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:33:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: erwinaw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Anthony W Erwin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-04.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <104440@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)  
writes:
> In article <1is44fINNpp7@meaddata.meaddata.com> bobj@meaddata.com (Robert  
Jones) writes:
 > >Knight isn't racist, he's mean to everyone :-)
> 
> Point well taken. :-)  But whether or not you or I think he's
> racist isn't the point: someone in his position should not allow
> themselves to be photographed in the situation he did.  It's a
> flat-out dumb move for anyone in the public eye.

	To me, the rascist people are the ones who look at a picture like that  
and even think about the fact that Cheaney is black and Knight is white.  The  
first time I saw the picture that thought never dawned on me.  Then, the press  
and NAACP just went nuts about it.
	  Cheaney has even said himself that the whole thing was a joke.  The  
players got the whip for Knight as a gag gift in the first place.

			Tony Erwin 

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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: We don't need no stinkin 'Lady'  (was Re: That was no lady...)
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:25:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan6.032512.26386
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman

In article <1id83fINN507@shelley.u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>Official program or no, when I go to the game tonight at Hed-Ed, the 
>announcer will call them the "Huskies", the game programs here will call
>them the "Huskies", and their shirts and warmups will be emblazoned with
>the word "Huskies".  Nowhere will be found the term "Lady Huskies".  I'll
>retract my accusation about you making an assumption that they were called
>the "Lady Huskies" and pass it on to the Sports Information Director or
>some other dweeb in the athletic department at Texas or Texas Tech.

Same deal here in Pullman.  The women are always referred to as the "Cougars,"
by PA announcers, by the students, by local sportscasters, by newspaper 
columnists, etc.  They are just as much a part of Cougar athletics as the men,
and we see no need to separate them with a 'Lady' prefix.   

Jim
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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Hurley vs. G-Tech
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:37:27 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan11.132507.16770@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> seifert@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Seifert) writes:
>Maybe it is because he is so damn ugly!  The only dispute with this is why
>don't they boo Cherokee Parks even more.

Actually, I was watching the movie "Repo Man" on A&E this weekend and it
is absolutely amazing how much Bobby Hurley looks like the young Emilio
Estevez.  Especially with his newfound tan (such as it is) and
straightened teeth (courtesy of off-season orthodontia).  

He's the spitting image!

- Rob Mac K



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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:49:32 GMT
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA

In article <1993Jan7.204036.14929@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:

> Well I didn't want to give the impression that I think Grant gets away
> with a lot of charges. I haven't really seen enough of him to say that.

I have.  He does.  But no more often than the other superstars.

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From: acfrodo@IASTATE.EDU ()
Subject: GT over Duke/ Iowa
Reply-To: acfrodo@IASTATE.EDU ()
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:48:05 GMT


Duke was basically out gunned from the start in this one.  If not for the
charity stripe the game would have been way out of hand.  Travis Best was
impressive (when he could play), and the freshmen played outstanding ball for
Tech.  Anyone else like that block on Hurley?(I thought it was clean)

I see I was correct about "#8" Iowa.  Two losses against some real competition
including a drubbing by Ohio State in game that was not indicitive of the score
(very simular to the GT/Duke game).

Sorry but gotta put this in =).  Kudos for Iowa State in a nice game against KU
on the road.  More play like that and they can be serious contenders for the Big
Eight title.

Tony Forsmark
acfrodo@iastate.edu
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: #1 Kentucky hits the road
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:45:25 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <79786@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>Anybody who thinks that it is "easy" to get a win over Vanderbilt or
>Alabama on their home courts knows too little about basketball to be
>allowed to post to this newsgroup.  Anyone who thinks it is "easy" for
>a team to play 3 consecutive conference games on the road doesn't 
>know anything about traveling.

Gee, thanks Doc.  Please quote me the part where I said it would be
"easy".  I have to disagree with the original post that "this week we'll
find out what the 'Cats are made of" -- if this is UK's toughest stretch
of the season, I'll eat my hat.  It may not be easy, but the nation's #1
team (TM) should be able to beat all three of these guys.  I won't deign
to address South Carolina, Alabama isn't half the team it used to be
(although still a far cry from, say, Auburn) and IMH(but
undistinguished)O Vandy isn't as good as advertised.  They may lose one
of these games, but I'd be disappointed if I were you.

I'd rather play this road swing than one game at Tech, but I guess we
all knew that. :-) 
 
>Extra clue:  Vanderbilt is still #23 in the CNN/USA Today poll for this
>week.  Not exactly chopped liver.

Below Georgetown, among other distinguished Top 20 wanna-bes.  Who had
the bright idea of this Top 25 crap, anyway?

>
- Rob Mac K

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