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                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2862

                          Thursday, August 13, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                             Access in Amsterdam
                   Re: On disability and sexual minorities
                            Employment equity law
                         Re: Text Scan/read For Vh?
                             kickin' the dragon
                      Automatic Macro Expansion Program
                                   just me
                             Magic Wand Keyboard
                               MS/HELP/Fatigue
                          amusement parks & wheels


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Subject: Access in Amsterdam
From: phoenixl@netcom.com (Scott Luebking)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hi,

I have a conference coming up in Amsterdam and would like some
information on wheelchair accessability in the city.  If anyone
could tell me how to get some information, I would appreciate it.

Take care,
Scott Luebking

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Subject: Re: On disability and sexual minorities
From: mgflax@phoenix.princeton.edu (Marshall Flax)
Organization: Princeton University

In article <23571@handicap.news> phoenixl@netcom.com (Scott Luebking) wrote:
>
>I've been asked to write an article on people who are both disabled
>and in a sexual minority, e.g. bisexual, gay, lesbian.  I'm just
>beginning the research and the topics are pretty open.  Some
>possible topics include issues of being a double minority, meeting
>people, discrimination, surprising sources of support,
>relationships, identity conflicts, sub-cultures' reponses to ADA.
>I would appreciate hearing from anyone who would like to offer
>experiences or ideas.  My e-mail address is phoenixl@netcom.com and
>my number is 510-548-9215 .  (Desires for confidentiality will be
>very much respected.)

soc.motss and soc.bi are very good places to raise these questions as
well.  (If your site does not receive them, I will gladly repost your
request for you.)  I would also add to your list: people who practice
consentual sadomasochism and/or bondage (alt.sex.bondage), people who
lead nonmonagamous lives (alt.polyamory), cross-dressers (there's a
mailing list I'm told, but alt.sex.bondage people would know) and
probably many other sexual minorities as well.  (I don't think there's a
newsgroup yet for those who choose to be chaste.)

But it's interesting to notice exactly how silent our culture is about
GLB disabled people, with the possible exception of those who have
become disabled as a result of AIDS.  Currently, there's a drug
available which treats opportunistic infections of the eye for people
with impaired immune systems and prevents blindness, at a cost of ten
or twenty thousand dollars per year.

===========================================================================

And in article <23640@handicap.news> 34AEJ7D@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu (Bill Gorman)
wrote:

>I do not believe any of the so-called "sexual minorities" are included
>in the list of groups that fall under the umbrella of the ADA
>(Americans with Disabilities Act).

Bill, I believe you're guilty of misreading the original posting: the
request was for those who fall under the umbrella of the ADA and (Venn
diagram intersection!) consider themselves members of sexual
minorities.

marshall
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Subject: Employment equity law
From: Arlette.Lefebvre@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Arlette Lefebvre)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL


Dear Patti,

 I am posting the following in several conferences, because
 it BOTHERS ME..and I'm not sure why..and I'd like your opinion
 on this...

 This is one of the Disability Network "vignettes" which I'd
 marked with a "!?!?" before...and here's how Iexplain my
 ambivalence:

 Is a FINE really the way to tackle underemployment of disabled
 individuals in Canada...?

 What are the chances of this resulting in real shifts in salary
 and power equity ...as opposed to rush-rush hirings of any
 disabled applicant just to meet the criteria outlined...?

 Will tokenism make things better or worse,in the long run...,
 as far as genuine respect for the ABILITY of disabled
 individuals...?

I know..I know..it's a start...and some corporations only respond
to legal clout and fines of this kind... but you know,there's an
old proverb in French that says "You don't catch flies with
vinegar"...I guess I'm really worried that vinegar may make things
even more "sour"...whether it'sfor disabled employees, female
employees,racial minorities or people with AIDS ...isn't there a
more efficient way to promote respect than with a club.....? Just
curious about this... <GRIN> ONTARIO'S EMPLOYMENT EQUITY LAW
NEEDED, DISABLED ADCVOCATE SAYS:

 ___________________________________________________________________

Toronto,June 24.

Eric Schryer, co-ordinator of Disabled People for Employment
Equity, says Ontario's proposed Employment Equity Legislation is
needed to tackle an unemployment and underemployment rate that is
as high as 85% among people with disabilities.

He said that any firm with fewer than 6% disabled employees should
be heavily fined.

He added that, following the model nowused in Germany, the fines
could be used to pay for making the workplace more accessible.

    SOURCE: Globe and Mail, reporter Christina Mungan,p. A7
    CONTACT: Disabled People for Employment Equity,
             (416) 975-8340.

               A bientot, I hope...?

                                               Docteur Froggie.
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Subject: Re: Text Scan/read For Vh?
From: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (David Bond)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/810.0 - Electronic Library, Denver CO


 SF> know what type of scanning/print reading systems are currently
 SF> out there which would be suitable as a print reading system for
 SF> the visually impaired.

Steve-

I use a system from Arkenstone and it incorporates a HP Scan Jet Plus, and a
card that I think comes from Calera.  Arkenstone writes the software and
markets the product through nationwide delers and what you can do is call
Arkenstone to locate a deler.  Call (west coast time) 1-800-444-4443.  This
system has the best reputation at the present time among blind users and I
am thoroughly pleased with it.  The software is designed to allow the novice
to perform scanning quite easily but also allows the advanced computer user
to "dig deeper" and perform very fine tuned scans.  Three interfaces allow
you to work the system- 1.) Easyscan, very easy and well suited for general
scanning and for use by the novice; 2.) Arkscan, presents a different
interface that accomplishes what Easyscan does but with a few additions; and
3.) from the command line the advanced user has a large range of options
that can be highly fine tuned and if you like writing batch files, this can
be a very good way to make your own customized scanning program.

I hope I don't sound like a sales person, I'm not, I am just a satisfied
customer.  You can get the exact price for the system when you call, but I
think the going price for the system I have (Model E) is around $3800.  I
have been hearing about some other products with prices less than that but I
have also heard that the old saying "you get what you pay for" is valid with
scanning systems.  You can also look into the "OSCAR from T.S.I. (Tele
Sensoryaids Inc.) in CA (sorry no phone #), or call Zerox and ask about the
Kursweil Personal Reader. (KPR).

Hope this helps.

Dave

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Subject: kickin' the dragon
From: Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Whitney)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


AA>;-) How much is "pricey" in dollars and cents? If you have
AA>one,would you like a job? Otherwise I guess I will be doing
AA>some typing.;-) Unless I could find enough jobs like this
AA>one to make it worth while to buy one for myself.

$9,000 is that pricey enough.
Frank.
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Subject: Automatic Macro Expansion Program
From: Neil.Wallace@p21.f804.n680.z3.fidonet.org (Neil Wallace)
Organization: FidoNet node 3:680/804.21


* Quoting a message of <30/7/92> Jonathan Bucki to All:

  JB> From: buckij@stolaf.edu (Jonathan Bucki) Organization: St. Olaf
  JB> College; Northfield, MN
  JB>
  JB> Index Number: 23443
  JB>
  JB> Greetings, I am searching for a macintosh program that will
  JB> automatically expand text as it is entered. I know they exist for the
  JB> PC's too. But I need one for the Mac.
  JB>
  JB> This is what I mean:
  JB>
  JB> When I type an abbreviation like "jsb" and then press the spacebar, it
  JB> will automatically be expanded out to "Jonathan S. Bucki."

There is a program called TypeIt4Me. It does exactly what you want
and is Shareware - US$30. Get it to try from a local Mac BBS or
user group. It does up to 32,000 characters per entry and 2,700
entries per file. You can have more than one file so only limited
by HD space. It is configurable very easily and accessible from a
corner of the menu bar as well.

Here's what was typed automatically when I pressed the
"Registration" button in the Help screen:

<quote>
Air Mail this form to:
Riccardo Ettore,
Attn. TypeIt4Me,
67 rue de la limite,
1970 W-Oppem, Belgium

                                  TypeIt4Me Registration Form

I wish to become a registered user: apart from a clean conscience,
I'll also get an 800K disk with the latest version of this and your
other shareware programs and written notification should you
further upgrade the program.

_ I'm enclosing US$30 in cheque/cash

_ Charge US$30 to my VISA/MasterCard/AmericanExpress

Card #: _ _ _ _  _ _ _ _  _ _ _ _  _ _ _ _  Expires: _ _ / _ _

Card Holder Signature: _____________________

Card Holder Name in Block Letters as it appears on

card:________________________

Send Package to:

Name:_____________________________

Street:____________________________

City:________________________ State:_________ Zip:______

(Telephone:__________________ Fax:______________________)

(Compuserve ID:_______________)

(Comments:____________________________________________________________)

TypeIt4Me V3.0r beta 10
<end>

HTH.

DNW

PS: I have no connection whatsoever with this product.

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Subject: just me
From: Neil.Wallace@p21.f804.n680.z3.fidonet.org (Neil Wallace)
Organization: FidoNet node 3:680/804.21


* Quoting a message of <30/7/92> Betsy Fenti to Al Manning:

  BF> I have used an Apple ][e for about 9 years.  I got a Mac ][x seven
  BF> months ago.  I'm still looking for other Macintosh users.

HELLO!

:-)

DNW

<who is a Mac-aholic, has been for 8 years, uses an SE/30,5/80; NEC
4FG monitor; Removable Syquest; Interlink FaxModem; Abaton
Trackball with mouthstick......and thinks Apple (Aust., at least)
have sold themselves short on not taking a bigger interest in
disabled>

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Subject: Magic Wand Keyboard
From: Betsy.Fenti@f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Betsy Fenti)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/650 - School Board, Hornell NY


I have been flooded with email about this keyboard.  So here's an
answer to everyone.

The keyboard's typing area is about 3"x7".  It has a stylus attached
to it that can be used with either hand or mouth.  It requires no
pressure to type.  The user should have fair amount of accuracy.  There a
model that can be used on the IBM and one for the Macintosh or
Apple //GS.  The Mac version costs approx. $1400, the IBM is about
$200 less.  The address for more information is:

In Touch Systems
c/o Susan Crouch
11 Westview Road
Spring Valley, NY 10977
914 354-7431

For more specifics ask me or call Susan Crouch.

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Subject: MS/HELP/Fatigue
From: Aaron.Feldman@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Aaron Feldman)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/207 - The Recovery Room, Rochester NY


Shalom to everyone, Missed everyone from this BBS..things have been
slow. I am hoping if someone could give me some suggestions on this
one: FINALLY- got a new job that is starting soon . It is in
computers, 48 hrs/week and pay is MUCH better than now. PROBLEM:
How do I get enough rest so I can handle it.  The hours are from 7
am-4 pm. How much sleep does someone with MS require? I seem to be
chronically tired to the point where I feel intensely irriated. As
it is now, I dont start work until noon- so I get up at 10am and
dress and then rest form an hour over lunch andf then fgo into
work. How do I do this at 6am?? I hope someone can give me some
suggestions becos I have been waiting for a chance at a REAL job
for over 3 years now and I want to at least to be able to give it a
good try. Thank you as always, Aaron

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Subject: amusement parks & wheels
From: Bob.Dunlap@f360.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Dunlap)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/360 - Hangar 18, Columbus OH


saturday, i went to king's island. since i cannot walk very far, i
had to rent a wheelchair. when i returned it, i commented that they
could do anything more to make it unaccessable. i found it
extremely difficult to get around the park. yes cobblestone & brick
make a for a very nice looking road, but it's not easy to putter a
wheelchair over. most of the lines were impossible to navigate, so
i would leave my wheelchair by the strollers and stand in line. the
other problem i encountered was that most of the surfaces were
slanted (i presume to let water flow). then there were a lot of
times where there would be unexpected dips & bumps further
complicating navigation.

has anyone else experienced similar difficulties?

bob

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