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From: YEE@DICKINSN.BITNET (Michelle Pfeiffer's Purrvert (Yee, Eugene))
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Subject: Re: Fatal Attraction
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:40:31 GMT
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Oops.  We both were wrong then.  Thanks to those who responded and corrected me.

To those who purchase cassettes or laserdiscs, do you think it's worth (or not
worth) paying extra for these "special editions" of movies?  Thanks again.

Euge
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:08:56 PDT
From:         Jennifer Porro <BL.JMP@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      new Robt Redford movie

REPLY TO 10/12/92 10:32 FROM CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET "Discussions on all forms of
Cinema": Re: Jaws and Spielberg

The airwaves (at least on the Bravo channel) this weekend were flooded
with trailers for the new Robert Redford movie, some title like THE
RIVER RUNS THROUGH.  I don't think I'll run right out and buy a ticket
-- the trailers make it look like a flaccid cross between THE PRINCE
OF TIDES and THE WALTONS.  Is there really such a big market for big
budget, sensitive, beautifully photographed stories about rural
dysfunctional families?  Time will tell.

Jennifer






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From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      A River Runs Through It

Jennifer,

Come now, don't be so cynical ;-)  I try not to formulate any real opinions
based on movie trailers.  They can be so misleading (most show every laugh
or big moment the film has to offer.....some show the ONLY big moments
a film has to offer).

A River Runs Through It is a wonderful novella.  I do notice that the
cinematography looks stunning....and Redford seems to have established a
fine cast.

On a similar 'river' note, River Phoenix really wanted the part that went to
Brad Pitt.  Phoenix said it was one of the best scripts he'd ever read.

As for me, I never liked "The Waltons"......I hope it's a big step up from
that drivel.   But that's just MY opinion.....as you say, I guess time will
tell.
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Dick, don't'cha dare stop writing these things!  Your vp entry was even better
than the first, and I don't know why I even bothered to watch last night.  If
you promise to do the next prez debate, maybe I won't again!  Jeff Clark
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From: MKERBEL@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: Allegedly sexist Best Picture movies
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 10:41:32 EDT

In article <CINEMA-L%92100700550991@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Rob Rosenthal <ST801736@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
 
>
>  I'm probably going to regret getting involved in this in the morning, but
>may I suggest that finding sexism everywhere has about the same effect as
>finding it nowhere?  Either way, one is liable to miss the really egregious
>offenses (like slasher films) and let others pass that should not go
>unchallenged (like Thelma and Louise, which by Michael Kerbel's criteria is at
>least as sexist as anything else on the Best Picture list).
>  The more concise and less polite way of putting this is to say that IMO,
>Michael probably wouldn't recognize a sexist movie if it sneaked up behind
>him and bit him on the rump.
>                                          Rob Rosenthal
 
A very elevated, refined, scholarly response.  You should have regretted it in
the morning.   -- M Kerbel
From: MICHELLE@ORTTA.UMN.EDU (Michelle Lehman)
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Subject: Reviews
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:50:03 GMT
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> Cinema-lites,
>    I have an unusual request.  I need for some kind soul to e-mail copies
> of my pres. & veep reviews to  me.  I have them in my "All" file, but I
> can't seem to translate them to my printer from there.  I told some of the
> members of my community about the responses from this list and some of them
> would like to read them.  I wrote a similar request which contained my
> picks for the Celebrity Presidential Candidates, but it ended up going to
> one person instead of the whole list.  C'est la vie (or some French S**T
> like that). Thanks in advance.  If someone sends them to me, please post
> that info to the board to prevent inconvenience to others.  Thanks in
> advance,
> RDC,SJ

I forwarded a copy of the Presidential review to him, but am unable to
locate my copy of the VP one.  If somebody else has it, please send
it to him.  Also, could I get a copy?  Thanks.

**********************************************************************
* Michelle Lehman                 |           michelle@ortta.umn.edu *
* University of Minnesota         |                  Minneapolis, MN *
**********************************************************************
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:31:55 CDT
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: WAR!!!

>A good documentary about Vietnam is DEAR AMERICA: LETTERS HOME FROM
>VIETNAM.  I think it's available on HBO Video.
>
>Was "Tumbledown" ever shown in the U.S.?
>
>Ellen
>ebedgert@suadmin.syr.edu
>
I don't think so at least I'm not familiar
with it.

Does anybody know the whereabouts of a documetary
called something like _Hearts and Souls_ or is
it _Hearts and Minds_?  It is about Vietnam, and
it has been shown on campus, unfortunately I haven't seen
it on video

Thanks in advance,

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:58:33 -0500
From:         huddle@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Akira on video

You can frequently find _Akira_ at comic book stores, too.  I've seen
dubbed, subtitled, and LBX versions of the film.

For those that haven't see the film, this is an *amazing* animated movie.
It is not in the Disney style, but certainly in the Disney tradition in
committement to detail and form.  The story is set in a post-apocalyptic
Japan, where some children birthed from the Akira project have developed
fantastic psycho-kinetic powers.  An intersting story about power,
innocence,
betrayal and rebirth (aka Japan itself).

--
-scott
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Subject: Re: review
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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     14-Oct-1992 04:35pm DST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
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Subject: RE: review

Hey, he's Catholic, he can take it!

Ellen
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Subject:      Mr. Baseball

Went to see Mr. Baseball last night.  I thought that it was pretty good.
I am a big T. Selleck fan anyway, but I thought that there were some good jokes.
I was entertained.  Has anyone else seen it?
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Subject: Akira on video
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:42:00 GMT
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The English-language version of Akira is available (in widescreen)
for $29.99 from Movies Unlimited (800) 523-0823.

Jim Thompson
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Subject:      Re: MTM in Ordinary People

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     09-Oct-1992 11:51am DST
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Subject: RE: MTM in Ordinary People

Ah, yes, but the argument was that MTM's character was a stereotypical strong
woman.  And it just isn't so. IMHO.

Ellen
From: ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL ((Ens Alexander W Ellermann))
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Date: 15 Oct 92 18:32:09 GMT
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I think the movie's name was In Love & War (The title of his
fascinating book).  Anyone seen it out there?
                                         Thanks
                                            Alex
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:54:41 BST
From:         "(John Smyth)" <eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      IRISH MUSIC

>Speaking of Irish music, has anyone out there ever heard ENYA?  I don't KNOW
>that she is Irish, but I think  some of the music sounds it.   DOes anyone
 >know?
>Dan

Yes, Dan, Enya is Irish. Much of her career has been concentrated on
theme music for TV/Film. Her first album is the theme music for
a B.B.C. series called 'The Celts'. That album, entitled "The Celts"
is published by BBC Enterprises. She has also provided music for films,
including 'L.A. Story' which starred the husband-and-wife team
of Steve Martin and Victoria Tennant.
                        Enya is part of the same family that are
called Clannad, who provided the music for the B.B.C.'s
"Harry's Game" (starring Sam Neill) and also "Robin of Sherwood".
Incidently , one of Enya's songs, "Wind over Africa", is reputedly
a favourite song of Col. Gaddafi (maybe 'cos it mentions Tripoli !).

                              John S.

Enya and Clannad are from Donegal, in the north of Ireland, and
are all fluent Irish speakers.
From: THOMPSON_O@RSO.DNET.GE.COM (Orlanda Thompson --- Rm M1310 Bldg. 100 --- Ext. 3005)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 18:46:32 GMT
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Responding to Jeff Clarks' msg. on James Cameron releasing, on disc, his
"complete" version of THE ABYSS; just as he did with ALIENS.  ALIENS is one
of my favorite movies (me, the one who's scared to watch any kind of horror/gore
movies).  Could someone tell me the additions to the movies ALIENS; is it out
on video yet?  I would love to see if the added pieces helps the movie flow
even more smoothly.....

Thanks in Advance
Orlanda
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:55:53 -0400
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      Presidential poseurs

RDC,SJ's evaluation of The Debate is an apt (and accurate) mix
of horror and irony. He might also have mentioned the makeup crew's
major contribution: Slick Willie Clinton's prosthetic spring-loaded
Smiling Device, of the sort airlines supply to stewardpersons.

After 1 1/2 hours of Babbitt, Smilin' Jack, and Colonel Kong, I took
comfort in 1) Maalox, and 2) reminding myself of something the smart
fellows in wigs built into the Constitution: it just ain't very
important who the President is. It's important that we get to *pick*,
but it doesn't matter very much *who* we pick. Damn good thing, too.

kjf-
From: sascmc@UNX.SAS.COM ((Christopher Mark Conn))
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Subject: Re: Basic Instinct
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:17:41 GMT
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              "FAC_JCLARK%JMUVAX.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU" at Oct 15, 92 4:07 pm

>
> What I gather is the European version of BASIC INSTINCT is due to be released
> on laserdisc next April, along with commentary by the director Paul Verhoeven.
> Extra-expensive package, naturally....  Jeff Clark
>

The guy in the video store told me that the unrated version
(or NC-17 version, whatever) is coming out in January. Has
anybody seen both? Is there a lot of difference?

_______________________________________________________________________________
Chris Conn                    It does not matter how slowly you go
sascmc@unx.sas.com            so long as you do not stop.
Austin, Texas                                          - Confucius
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From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Richard III & TV

Thanks for the replies, everyone.  I find this to be fascinating.

(They cut out the scene with his shadow?  Gimme a break!  Filthy,
provocative, SMUT!!!)  <grin>
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From:         SCHIBERG@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      H. Laurie

Thanks, Liam--I forgot about this new movie.  I beleive it is
called PETER'S FRIENDS and I am really looking forward to it!  I
doubt it will play where I live, but it is a nifty reason for a road
trip if I can swing it...  And I haven't seen H. Hawk--I'd love to
see if it was Hugh!  Also, I was told that Stephen Fry has a teeny part
in A FISH CALLED WANDA--he's the one that gets hit in the airport
in the last part (I haven't seen it in a while so I am not sure of the
specifics).

Susan
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Subject:      Re: more Laurie stuff

>I assume you have all the Wooster and Jeeves episodes...

Hugh Laurie's glorious wake-up-with-a-hangover scene in the first
episode has achieved cult status in these parts. It's considered
a sort of exemplary tale about a very important social skill
in a small, dipsomaniacal college town.

kjf
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Subject:      Re: Hoffa

>Speaking of the teamsters, organized labor, etc., I saw yesterday a
>trailer for HOFFA, a movie coming out in December about Jimmy Hoffa
>and starring Jack Nicholson.  I think Danny DeVito may be the
>director.  The clips made it look wonderful.  Nicholson has done a
>Robert DeNiro-type transformation, gaining weight to look the part,
>and something about the make-up really makes him the embodiment of
>Hoffa.  Jennifer Porro

        Well, he could be..we don't know what happened to Hoffa...and
did you ever see him and Nicholson in the same place at the same
time?

        You're right about the make-up; I wasn't sure it was Nicholson
till they showed the credits.

                                        Sue
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From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Hugh Laurie

I think he is in Kenneth Brannagh's upcoming movie (the title of which
I can't remember).  It also stars Stephen Fry, Brannagh, Emma Thomson,
Tony Slattery and others.  It is about  about a reunion of old Oxbridge
chums.  When Fry was asked in a recent interview (on the set) whether
the story didn't seem like real-life to the actors (most had been at
university together), and in particular whether he wasn't playing
himself, Fry replied no, the movie _Die Hard_, and the character John
McClane was actually just like him...

I also think that one of the goons in _Hudson Hawk_ (`Ig' and `Oog', who
are supposed to be tailing the Hawk (and who lose him, and are shot by
Sandra Bernhard) ), look suspiciously like Hugh Laurie.  But I could be
wrong, and I haven't checked the credits... but it did give me a neat
chance to mention _Hud Hawk_ again...
					Liam.
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From: 20676JTS@MSU.BITNET (Jean.MacDougall)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 15:43:00 GMT
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I sure am curious about these reviews. Could someone please forward
them to me? I somehow missed them. I am absolutely fascinated with
the discussions on this net and would love to read an analysis of
the debates. Thanks!

Jean MacDougall
MSU
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From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: H. Laurie

>From: SCLERC <SCLERC@BGSUOPIE.BITNET>
>
>>  And I haven't seen H. Hawk--I'd love to see if it was Hugh!
>
>        I admire and sympathize with your devotion; I, too, have
>endured the dregs of filmdom to see actors I like...

I fail to see the connection...

> Fry and/or Laurie might also
>show up in other Python films and things like _The Secret Policeman's
>Other Ball_ and _Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl_ (both
>are out on video).

Well, you won't find them in any Python movies (Python wannabes though they
may be).  Yes, they do show up in the Secret Policeman concert movies and
the Hysteria concerts too.  They also appeared in at least one episode
of The Young Ones, along with Emma Thompson, Ben Elton and Robbie
Coltraine.

Also they appeared in a series called Alfresco, again with Thompson,
Coltraine and Elton, back in the early days of British alternative
comedy.  It only lasted a series and did remarkably poorly considering
the names involved.

Finally, Fry and Laurie were regulars on Saturday Live (later called
Friday Night Live, shown on Channel Four, which was hosted by Ben
Elton (except the first series).

Oh, and they have made several adverts for the Alliance an Leicester
Building Society.  And they do voice-overs for several other ads.

				   Liam.
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From:         "(Ens Alexander W Ellermann)" <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Sneakers

===========================================================
>
>

>
>
>
> Anyone else seen SNEAKERS?  I saw it at a matinee and was glad I did.
> Wasn't worth full price.  Made me realize how much I miss James Bond
> movies with gadgets and villains, though...
>
> Ellen
> ebedgert@suadmin.syr.edu
===========================================================
        I second the motion.  I caught it at a matinee and was sorry I did.
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From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Sneakers

Anyone else seen SNEAKERS?  I saw it at a matinee and was glad I did.
Wasn't worth full price.  Made me realize how much I miss James Bond
movies with gadgets and villains, though...

Ellen
ebedgert@suadmin.syr.edu
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I've been sharing these 'reviews' with my collegues at work. It's been
rough & busy for the past several weeks, so we appreciate a good laugh.
Keep them coming.

Carol Doms

P.S.  Have you considered submitting them to newspapers?  I think your
reviews are better than the commentaries I have read in the papers.
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From:         "(John Smyth)" <eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      Censorship

Trev writes :
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello everybody, I'm new to this list, I just subscribed yesterday.
>Reading the mail this morning, I noticed there was a lot of talk
>about European Versions of Movies. I live in Ireland so I'm not sure
>if the version of Basic Instinct that I saw was the same one that was
>shown in the States. The one I saw was pretty erotic, I believe the
>censorship laws here in Ireland are somewhat different to the ones in
>the States.

The version of Basic Instinct shown here in Ireland was the uncut version.
The Irish censor, Sheamus Smith, seems to adopt the attitude of 'Ban it
completely or leave it alone'.
                                In the case of 'The Last Temptation of
Christ', (which caused a bit of contreversy here), he made no cuts but
insisted that the distributors screen a small 'disclaimer' before the
movie, saying that the movie was not meant to be factual etc. (as if the
Bible is !!). In the case of the Therese Russell movie,(is it called
Prostitute or Whore?), it was banned.
                              John Smyth
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Date: 14 Oct 92 20:51:51 GMT
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>The other movie with a plot "similar" to Running Man could be
>THE TENTH VICTIM (1965), with Marcello Mastroianni and Ursula Andress.

Ah yes. The one in which Ms Andress kills men with her brassiere. I dream
about that movie regularly. Good old two-gun Ursula. It changed me forever.

Has it occurred to anyone that "Ursula Andress" is a spoonerism?

kjf-
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