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From: goodrich@lynx.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Goodrich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:23:52 GMT
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In article <1992Nov13.193144.1944@walter.bellcore.com>, kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
|> In article <1e0iffINNe6i@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, goodrich@lynx.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Goodrich) writes:
|> |> In article <1dum1kINN1m3@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> UVa is idle.
|> |> |> 
|> |> 
|> |> Well, next week is the season finale. I think the days of a big emotional
|> |> advantage for the Hokies is mostly over. However, that notwithstanding, I 
|> |> think the Hokies will take this one as well. Partly I base this on my
|> |> feeling that I've observed Tech handling adversity better than UVa,
|> 
|> How does a 2-6-1 record with four blown 4th quarter leads point to being 
|> able to "handle adversity"?  This is a VT team that practically begs their 
|> opponents to come back on them in games rather than putting them away.
|> 
|> |> perhaps partly due to UVa's success in recent seasons and the fact that
|> |> Tech has seen some real adversity this season. 
|> 
|> Both teams have SEEN adversity this year.  I have yet to figure out how
|> VT has risen above theirs given their lack of mental toughness on the field.
|> 
|> |>                                                However I beleive they've
|> |> established a trend of putting it together, whereas I feel UVa has
|>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> The only trend Va Tech has recently put together is a six game winless 
|> streak with a couple of classic chokes to carry on the tradition.  
|> 
|> |> regressed. I really think turnovers will determine this one: Hokies in a
|> |> closer one than I would like:
|> |> 
|> |> Va Tech 17    UVa 15 
|> 
|> I'm hoping for a win, but I just don't know.  After witnessing that Rutgers 
|> game, I'm not sure what to believe about this team.  UVa hasn't been playing
|> as strong as they did last year, but I don't know what sort of positives you 
|> can find out of Va Tech's performances this year to believe they're going 
|> put it together.
|> 
|> -- 
|> 


Hey, uh, Kevin ... lighten up!

All of your responses are just the same "None of your obseravtions make
sense 'cause their 2-7-1". Further, I'm not convinced that the Hokies are
doing all that much "choking". I think they are suffering from at least as
many coaching miscall's and mistakes (how many punt returns has Tech had
penalty free all season ? - I don't call this a "choke"). In fact as I've
told others, I've seen plenty to be excited about with this team. DeShazo
continues to play with a lot of heart. The Hokies have practically NO
seniors in key positions, they have a new defensive coord. this year, they
have some fast talented recvrs and backs, ... etc. So while my optimism
may irritate you, I stick by my original opinions...


...mike
From: Ray_Hines@dream.uucp (Ray Hines)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Eagles have landed (and State of Coll...)
Date: 22 Nov 92 09:50:02 GMT
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In a message dated Sun 22 Nov 92  4:12, Tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (tony Fernan
wrote:

 TF> As opposed to Florida, which chickens out every year for not playing 
 TF> Miami during the regular season.

Er, you need to get your facts straight.  It's the other way around. :) 
Read Spurrier's book he wrote.  He'd LOVE to play Miami.  

Sigh.  Has Miami's Disinformation Department been cranking again lately?

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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: ISU vs NU Stats....
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:23:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.044403.19900@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>
>
>
> Those passing stats are abyssmal!!! Not even a 100+ yard passing game!!!!
>
> What, are all Big 8 teams rushing powerhouses, or are the pass defenses
> awesome beyond belief, or is it the powerhouse rushing defense??

You don't know much about Big 8 football, do you? Does I-Bone and Wishbone
etc ring a bell?

> I would never have dreamed that a QB could have just 4 passes in a game!!
>-- 
>delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu

Njan
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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Best looking cheerleaders in college
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:41:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.113836.14383@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.153502.10489@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The One and Only) writes:
>>
>>This weekend should provide ample ;-) evidence that the University of
>>Southern California has without a doubt the best looking cheerleaders. 
>>There should be plenty of gratuitous coverage of these buxom beauties when
>>USC plays Note Dame on Saturday.  They just can't be denied.
>
>They are good-looking, but they wear way too much clothing.  They always
>have those damned thick sweaters on.  Skimpier outfits!

	C'mon, Brian, there's nothing better than a coed in a nice
	sweater (or out of one, as the case may be)...
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Lee Corso Screws A&M
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:34:29 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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In <1992Nov18.231912.23828@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> thiaga@bind.cs.fsu.edu writes:

> 
> 	Something I was curious about :- 
> 		Given the fact that almost everybody thinks Corso is
> 	a fool .  Also, the fact that noone takes him seriously.

  None of US take him seriously.  Other sportswriters *might*.

> 	Is it neccesary that FSU jumped TAMU in the polls solely
> 	due to "CORSO's" woofing ? 

  It didn't hurt.

> 		Is it so hard to accept that the Pollsters may have 
> 	been capable of independant thinking ?

  Past evidence has not shown the pollsters are capable of *any* form of 
thinking! :-)

 
> 		I personally dont think Corso could've made such a 
> 	difference. 

  It doesn't take much.  Currently, the FSU lead is only 3 pts.

>       Considering that the other two "Sane" ESPN
> 	commentators with less radical views were against the 
> 	shift in poll positions . Think about  it ! 

  As we all know, it only takes one bozo to screw things up.  Truth to tell,
Corso is only one factor.  The natural media bias in favor of FSU (built up
over time because they are, consistently, a *very* good team) has been working
here too.  Then FSU plows 2-6 Tulane, and A&M has to struggle late to put
UofH (3-6) away.  SWC followers know Uh is more dangerous than 3-6 would ind-
icate, but naturally the pollsters (most of 'em, anyway) wouldn't know that.

  I think what really sticks in the craw of Aggie fans is that Corso *should*
know better before making ridiculous bashing statements in favor of his old
school, going rather a bit above and beyond the normal exigencies of journ-
alism.  I'm not saying Lee has no right to his opinion, or even in voicing
it -- it just seems like a conflict of interest to get to woof for your
alma mater on national tv in the guise of "informed observer".  I don't think
I've a complaint with *what* his opinion is (I just disagree), but with *how*
he has chosen to express it: "A&M must beat Houston by 40 to keep above FSU..."


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford Bowl-bound
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:39:21 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov18.153328.11245@newssun.med.miami.edu> dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) writes:
>Stanford has had a good first year under Bill Walsh and will
>obviously go to a bowl.  If the beat Cal this weekend (very

  Congrads.  Hopefully Stanford can win a bowl game this decade :-)

>likely), they would end up 8 - 3, with loses to Washington, 
>Arizona, and Texas A&M (all very good teams), and probably 
>be ranked in the top 12 (is that stretching it?).  

  Everyone knows Stanford is favored to win.  I am not expecting Cal
to win.  But I've got to say that there is an unusual demand for Big
Game tickets by Alumni I know this year.  It almost seems like 
tickets are harder to come by this year compared to last year!  I
know the stadium is not as big as Stanford's, but hell, the Bears have 
a losing season and Stanford is a top-20 team while the Bears are
not even ranked, and people are still scrounging for tickets!  
(DeJa Vu circa 1986? :-)

  I think the karma is on the Bears' side this year.   The big game
for Stanford this year can do more harm than good- sure they can go
to 8-3 - a lot of bowl-bound teams have three or less loses - , but
beating a team with a losing season is not saying much.  But if 
they LOSE- watch those Bowl offers evaporate!  Could be another Aloha
trip...

>I read a 
>post that suggested that they might get an invite from the 
>Orange Bowl ... is that really possible?  What is the most
>likely bowl match-up for them?

  Let me tell you about The Bowl Slimes- they will come to the Big Game
and the representatives will be schmoozing your team and fans- particularly
the student section, but when it comes down to it, Bowl representatives East 
of the Rockies don't want a West Coast team unless you are like top-5 or have 
a consistent program that always has your team in the top10 in the past.
Don't hold your breath for an Orange Bowl bid.  The problem comes with
transporting fans across the country, and unless there is a dedicated
following like Notre Dame or Miami has, the game will not sell out.
But I forgot, cash is no object to Stanford alumni :-)

  Bring on 'dem trees!!!

  Doug
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From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Subject: Bruce to be canned
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:36:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Colorado State football coach Earle Bruce will be fired today after refusing
to resign, according to the _Rocky Mountain News_.  He is not being fired
because of his record, instead he is being fired because he _physically
abused_ football players.  Frankly, I don't know how a 5-10, 61 year old
guy could bruise 225 pound 20 year olds, but there's probably more to the
story.

And Bo, if your reading, I do have a room for rent.


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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Super Conference to end East Coast Bias...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:59:38 GMT

In article <1em1e8INNga1@agate.berkeley.edu> hackett@ocf.berkeley.edu (William Hackett) writes:
> 
> 
> 

[ Coherent setences deleted. ]



What "East Coast Bias?"

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From: ryan@pi.cs.fsu.edu (John Ryan)
Subject: Re: Roll Tide down the Polls!
Reply-To: ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:37:27 GMT

In article <1e647pINNo7g@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> 
>  I hate to have to agree but...the UH was closer than it should have been.
>That lousy SWC officiating, blah, blah.  Anyway, we can't ask to leapfrog
>Bama since they did exactly what A&M has done all year -- exploit 2nd half
>breaks to win the game.  But if FSU leapfrogs us becuase they got to play 
>Temple (which isn't in UH's league), then i'll be pissed...
>
>
>semper fi,
>
>Jammer Jim Miller 
>Texas A&M University '89 and '91

If FSU leapfrogs A&M, it won't be because the Seminoles destroyed Tulane.
It will be because FSU is clearly a better team.  Period.

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From: n8443916@henson.cc.wwu.edu (John Gossman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Coaches DIS the Pac-10
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:20:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov23.042056.24710
Organization: Western Washington University


	There are 12 teams in the country better than any team
in the Pac-10 this year.    NOT!!!!!!!!!

	Last time I heard there were 2 Pac-10 coaches in the
CNN poll.  The rest of the conferences are stiffing the Pac-10.  
Well, they'll have to pay for it come bowl time.

	-JG
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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Subject: Showboating etc. (Was: Re: Verbal Bashing Of Miami)
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:24:22 GMT

There's been a thread here about why so many fans dislike (hate?) Miami,
and that their on-field antics such as showboating and taunting have
earned a lot of that hate.

I have noticed a big trend in college football toward showboating and
taunting, and I really don't like it.  It takes away from the visual
appeal of the game.  It seems so much classier to just toss the ball to
the ref after scoring, for example, than to do some elaborate dance.
But it's not just after scores that this goes on, and it's not just Miami
anymore.  Why does every defensive lineman have to strut for twenty yards
to the adulation of the crowd after every sack?  I even recall watching
Randall "Thrill" Hill jump up and strut his stuff with index finger in
the air after a 3-YARD completion vs. Notre Dame (and it wasn't like it
was for a clutch first down or anything).

I realize that football is an extremely emotional game and that some
celebration is appropriate, but it seems to me that it is getting out of
hand.  Are there fans who actually enjoy this sort of thing?  (Are they
the same ones who like astroturf and domed stadiums?)  





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From: rszczerb@mauchly.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: MIGHTY MICHIGAN ... and notre dame
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:36:09 GMT

This is just a brief note to all of those who
thought Holtz went for the tie against Michigan ....

this is also for all those intelligent comments arguing                    
why Michigan should be ranked ahead of Notre Dame and
Syracuse in the AP polls ...

In my (obviously biased) opinion ... Michigan is
not even a top 15 team.  The only thing they've
done was tie Notre Dame.  They played poorly
agsint Purdue, Illinois, and Ohio State ...
I don't even think they're the best team in the
Big 10 ...           

Hail Hail to Michigan ... (fill in the rest)

				- rob
Organization: Penn State University
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:37:29 EST
From: Deepak AKA Icepak, Backpak, Pakster etc. <DXR111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty


In article <gf1Q5tO00iV384SUkn@andrew.cmu.edu>, wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William
Karamo Motley) says:

>Who saw that Notre Dame game today?  I think that the NCAA should either
>be much, much more lenient when they call that excessive celebration
>penalty, or get rid of that call completely.  When you win in the type
>of manner Notre Dame did today, you have every right to go beserk and
>act bananas.  For Christ's sake, they're college kids.  Even pros
>celebrate.  Remember when the Colts beat the Dolphins this year?

>Will

Perhaps on a game winning touchdown, field goal etc.  I hope not after every lo
usy point that is scored.  That kind of celebration after every point would be
a pain.
                                   Pak
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From: news.rice.edu (mls)
Subject: re: fsu!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: rice U.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:40:10 GMT

you have got to be out of your mind to compare the 1992 Cotton Bowl to this
season's fsu and tamu teams!!!!! But since you brought it up, why is it
after 8 turnovers by tamu fsu could only score 10 points on us (eight of
which were in the fourth quarter!)  Face it, fsu hasn't exactly been
playing powerhouses, so get off your high horse....
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From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Subject: Re: Texas 35 SMU 14
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:07:22 GMT

In article  (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:

>  Geez, Chris, lighten up.  Didn't you see the smiley?  Or are you still smart-
>ing from the TCU game?  :-)

I'm still wearing black.  Does that tell you anything??? = )

-Chris


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From: atchison@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 IS WEIRD
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:32:32 GMT

In article <cf3g8mS00iUxA3xUp=@andrew.cmu.edu> William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Can anyone explain why the PAC-10 is so f???ing unpredictable?????????
>
>Will

In the PAC-10 its unpredictable.  In the Big-10 it's "the league sucks".  In
the MAC it's parity.  It all comes down to the same thing.  There is no such
thing as a sure win anymore.  For anybody.  

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From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: Michigan
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:03:32 GMT

graf@inthehat.engin.umich.edu  writes:
>That Michigan-Illinois game today was pretty bad, but at least the Wolverines managed to get a tie after being behind.  The damn missed extra point lost us the game.  Even though we'll go down in the ranking, at least we'll go to the Rose Bowl.

You bet you'll go down in ranking.  There will no no more whining about who
should be ahead anymore: Miami and Michigan, or even Bama and Michigan.  If I 
were you, I wouldn't be too satisfied with the outcome of the game.  I mean 
really, Illinois was a team that wasn't even ranked in the top 25... and we 
tied the mighty Michigan.  Also, it was at home for you wimps!!!!  106,000 
plus people there at the game, and YOU TIED US!!!  HA-HA-HA!!!!  The number 3
team in the nation, could only TIE an unranked team AT HOME!!!!  How pathetic!!!
You're lucky that you're still going to the Rose Bowl... do you think that you
really deserve it after this, and losing to Purdue for 1/2 the game????????


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From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: CFPOOL: Week #12 Results
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:07:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) writes:

>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
>|        Score This Week          |     Year To Date        | Entrant         |
>|  score  | percentage |by thirds |   score  | percentage   |    Name         |
>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
>| 1000.00 | 17/18  94% | 06-06-05 | 12000.00 | 210/215  98% | PERFECT SCORE   |
>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
>|  575.46 | 11/18  61% | 02-05-04 |  7261.24 | 122/215  56% | *Schmidt System |
>|  554.01 | 11/18  61% | 03-04-04 |  7170.10 | 123/215  57% | *Gupta System   |
>|  510.80 | 10/18  55% | 01-05-04 |  7600.40 | 130/215  60% | *Sagarin System |
>|  490.10 | 10/18  55% | 02-03-05 |  7933.43 | 131/215  60% | Vegas Line      |
>|  454.13 | 06/18  33% | 03-03-00 |  6085.67 | 106/197  53% | *Marsee System  |
>+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+

WOOF!  Fourth overall and the best ranking system!  I even beat the Vegas
Line.  My season lead over Gupta is stretched to over 90 points.

>| 33 |  6617.21 | *Sagarin System      |
>| 57 |  6384.20 | *Schmidt System      |
>| 58 |  6361.18 | *Gupta System        |
>| 75 |  6164.53 | *Dendy System        |
>| 91 |  5668.71 | *Marsee System       |

With the two worst dropped my season lead is 23.02 points over Gupta.

Kevin
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From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: rec.sport.football.college
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:28:20 EST

HEY COOPER stop playing Ray Handley's offense!!!!!!!!!!!!






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