From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: I tried not to get into this......
Summary: You still didn't try very hard.
Organization: Rice University
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:02:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.002929.21600@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
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>In article <1992Apr15.222230.20547@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Hum
>phrey) writes:
>>>human-ness begins at birth then they must consider the fact that a child has
>>>been born after only 22 weeks of pregnancy and survived.  Thus, their "line"
>>>must move from 9 months to 5, which will reduce the number of abortions by
>>>almost half.  This idea of abortion on demand at any time during pregnancy is
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>>>wrong.  A woman has no "right" to this.
>>>I have had enough of this discussion so 'nuff said.
>>
>>Moving your alleged "line" back to 22 weeks will cut the number of abortions
>>almost in half?  You need to replace those batteries in your calculator,
>>then -- two-thirds of all abortions are done *before 12 weeks*.  The figures
>>I remember indicate that disallowing abortion at 22 weeks would eliminate a
>>whopping two percent of abortions done in this country...so much for
>>pro-life "math".
>>
>That's the only thing you can argue with huh?  I read my figure in the 
>University of Notre Dame newspaper (The Observer) last
>Friday which said that 770,000 abortions are done during the first trimester.
>Based on 1.6 million abortions per year that is less than half in the first
>three months. How many are done in the other two months?  I'm not sure but most
>abortion places advertize that they do them up to 24 weeks.  ( At least in my
>phone-book they do.)  I would question your statistic considering that many
>women don't even find out that they are pregnant until they are already two
>months pregnant.  I agree, statistics are misleading sometimes.  Considering 
>how many children are killed by abortion each year, saving only 2% of them 
>would be still be nice. :)

Wow.  A newspaper from a just slightly Catholic school -- I bet they
wouldn't have even a suspicion of bias over them, would they?  Uh *huh*.
Where'd you pull the 1.6 million figure out of, as well?  Funny that the CDC
reported 1.3 million abortions done for '91 -- if that 770,000 first-tri
figure has any validity, you're looking at just under 60% right there.
(The Yellow Pages in Columbus may carry such advertisements, but a quick
check of the Greater Houston version shows that *not one* of the
approximately 30 area clinics advertises any time constraints.  Whether
that's a meaningful bit of information or not, I have no way of knowing.)
So, you want to save those 2% a year?  Are you gonna put your money where
your mouth is and care for those 26,000 or so babies?  After all, their
mothers didn't want them, so if you're willing to foot the bill for caring
for all 26K of them, great.  But don't try forcing your decisions on me *or*
my wife...or anyone else.

>Susan E. Schudt
>Dept. of Chemical Engineering - Ohio State
>"When you're right, you're right!"
>"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate!"

So, are you the windshield, or are you the bug?  :-)

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