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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Use of "crashme"
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.misc
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:56:18 GMT

In article <00348@meph.UUCP> gsarff@meph.UUCP writes:
> Nealy every company that came out with a machine running unix,
> ported the code, bugs and all, and presumably did not fix the bugs because of
> the fear of being struck by a lightning bolt from the unix gods.

One company has been fixing the bugs. The problem is, they get panned for it.

The problem is that if you fix the bugs you need to KEEP fixing them in every
release because AT&T (or USL) never bothers to fold any fixes back into the
source release. So either you give up fixing them or you give up picking up
every new release of UNIX.

Can you figure out which company I'm talking about now?

> We want to offer a more standard product; smaller, slower, less reliable, and
> more profitable, but standard.  

Make that "bigger, slower, and less reliable" and I'll believe it.
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Cyrix 486
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:07:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.131334.22658@cis.uab.edu> hyatt@cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt) writes:
> Does this mean that AMD has built
> a 486-compatible chip with only a 16mb real memory addressing capability?

And with a 16-bit external data path, and low power disspiation. Looks like
it to me.

> Seems foolish if they did.

I don't know... sounds like they could sell a shitload of the parts to all
the people currently getting 386SX systems. I mean, that's what it all comes
down to, isn't it?
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From: rrao@pima.intel.com (Ravi Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Requesting a re-post of Architecture course......
Date: 30 Mar 92 15:19:39 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp, Chandler, AZ

Hi Folks,
	Could somebody repost the article which detailed the 1/2 week course
on Parallel Architectures (??) by Prof.Arvind.... of MIT. This was posted about
10 days back. 

Thanks,
Ravi

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Xref: sparky comp.arch:4906 alt.folklore.computers:6263
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re:  chip-on-chip technology
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:01:42 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: It's Home, really...

In article <id.D1PO.B0K@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1223@eouk15.abcl.co.uk> pcockere@abcl.co.uk (Pete Cockerell) writes:
>> #define
>
>> is pronounced `pound-define' (not `hash-define')
>
>No, it's pronounced `number-define'. :->

'hash-define' in these parts.
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From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss)
Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: Ideas for new LISP Machines
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:36:55 GMT
	<CARLTON.92Apr2164722@husc8.harvard.edu>
	<MEISSNER.92Apr3104846@tiktok.osf.org>
	<GLEW.92Apr3172834@pdx007.intel.com>
	<MEISSNER.92Apr6102821@tiktok.osf.org> <GLEW.92Apr6212044
Reply-To: moss@cs.umass.edu
Followup-To: comp.arch
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: meissner@osf.org's message of 9 Apr 92 15:23:01 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Apr 92 15:23:01 GMT, meissner@osf.org (Michael Meissner) said:

Michael> In article <GLEW.92Apr6212044@pdx007.intel.com> glew@pdx007.intel.com
Michael> (Andy Glew) writes:

Michael> | What a well-designed architecture would have is a signed 17 bit
Michael> | offset, plus a load immediate as upper 16 bits instruction.

Michael> Or two instructions, one that sign extends, and the other zero
Michael> extends.

Actually, and not meaning to be picky, a zero-extend-constant and
sign-extend-constant overlap on the positive half of the range. It makes more
sense to me to have load-positive-constant (zero extend) and
load-negative-constant, or, if you like, add-immediate and sub-immediate,
where the constant is zero extended. But the basic observtion that the 17th
bit can be an opcode bit rather than a sign bit is good ....
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From: f0388913@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu (Brian Beck : WSU Biochemistry/Biophysics)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: WINDOW SERVER problems
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:37:11 GMT
Organization: Washington State University


	Okay all you SGI gurus, I've got a couple of problems that
	probably have simple solutions, but as a relatively new SGI
	user I don't know how to fix them.

	1) We're trying to hook up our button and dials box to our
	   4D60T in one of the 9 pin serial ports. Unfortunately, we
	   don't have docs for the B&D box and we don't know what pin
	   configuration to use to connect them. The B&D box is also
	   9 pin female, so we need a 9pin_male-to-9pin_male connector
	   but which pins do we need active? We've tried a null modem
	   connection (2,3,7) -> (3,2,7) and (2,3,5) -> (1,2,6) but
	   neither pattern would work. (i.e. a confidence test couldn't
	   find the b&d box.)

	2) The more serious problem: 
		The other day we logged in and found our Window Server
	   	had gone crazy. The console was squashed to 1 pixel high,
		the icons in the WorkSpace were all displaced, and any 
		graphics we try to run on QUANTA (molecular modelling package)
		creates a weird tangled skein of molecular bond images.
		However, anything we print shows up normally, and any shells
		we pull up have normal windows. 

	Unfortunately, everyone in our group is sufficiently SGI clueless
	enough to inable us from fixing these two problems.

	Any suggestions you could provide would be most appreciated.
	(Also, I'd really appreciate e-mail replies because I don't)
	(do NEWS all that often, although I will get posted replies)
	(eventually.)

	-Brian

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From: bense@heart4 (Booker C. Bense)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 4dwm behavoir ( just map the damn window !)
Keywords: mwm
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:57:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: deadmin.1621
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD

- Does anyone know a way to get 4dwm to just map a window to the 
screen without having to click to position it ? Normally this is 
only mildly annoying, but we need to do a 500 image animation to 
video. The rest of it is automated, except for the stupid mouse
click so the window will show up. Resources I've tried so far include

Mwm*showFeedback: move resize
Mwm*clientAutoPlace: false 

- Any hints will be gratefully appreciated !!!

P.S. If you know a way around this in another manager ( like twm ) 
I'd welcome knowing that as well. 

- Booker C. Bense                    
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: tg@utstat.uucp (Tom Glinos)
Subject: Re: electronic submission of bug reports
Keywords: SGI, email, support
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:06:59 GMT

In article <j7jbmck@sgi.sgi.com> vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:
>Many people, including me, prefer email.  Corporate management types
>differ; they often don't know what it is, except some nasty computer thing
>that only brings bad news, often semi-public and more enduring than verbal
>abuse.

I wonder what they think of comp.sys.sgi and the abuse we generate :-)

>If you pay money for support and prefer email, then ask your sales
>representatives to put it into the contract.  Ask for a lower price, on the
>grounds that reading email is faster for the support people here and that
>email is much cheaper than 800 phone line charges.  I doubt they'd go for
>it, but it would set the tone for the negotiations.

Wonderful idea. My support contract is up for renewal next month.
I'll try what Vernon suggests and post a note as to how it goes.
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From: lombardo@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: GlxMDrawWidgetClass problems
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:08:55 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Hi,
  I have written a motif application in C++ that displays a user
interface panel.  This works fine.  I now want to add a gl rendering
window to the application.  I want the panel and the gl window to be
seperate - not combined into a single main window.
  
  No matter what I do, the gl window does not display.  The panel
window comes up fine.  I have tried to apply the info I have from man
pages, from the programming transition guide  and from the example code
in 4Dgifts.  Any ideas on what I am doing wrong or haven't done?

  Any help will be appreciated.


Chuck

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From: dale@ldgo.columbia.edu (dale chayes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: caps lock  LED
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:40:18 GMT
Reply-To: dale@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory



The other day I did something (unknown, but no exotic software) that
caused the caps-lock LED (in the upper right hand corner of my
keyboard) to stop lighting even when the keyboard was sending all
caps.

IE: The keyboard was in caps-lock, but the LED didn't know it.

I have no idea what I did to get into this state, but after I cycled
the power (to replace a CD-ROM drive) the LED was back to normal
behavior.

Has anyone else see this?

Dale
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: mcdonald@aedc-vax.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: mapping of ^C to eof instead of ^D in tcsh-6.01?
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:48:48 GMT

I have recently installed tcsh-6.01 on my 4D25.  After setting tcsh as my login
shell I began noticing that ^D no longer ended input into commands such as:

cat >> filename
this is some test text
^D

Using stty I found that eof was mapped to ^C instead of ^D.  Is this a bug
with tcsh?  I know I can work around it by add in eof '^D' in my ~/.login file.
But I would like to fix tcsh instead.  I am also using a Convex 3840 running
tcsh.  The eof is mapped to ^D on this version of tcsh by default.

I am running 4.0.1 IRIX if this has anything to do with it.

Any help will be appreciated.

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From: rnelson@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Roger Nelson - Grad Student)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Removable media Hard Disk drive on SGI
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:19:30 GMT
Organization: Washington State University


Does anyone have experience using removable media hard disk drives under IRIX?  

Can IRIX automatically mount file system on the cartridge when it is inserted?

What drives are (not) known to work?

Thanks for any information,    

Roger Nelson    rnelson@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: sjang@cs.ubc.ca (Stanley Jang)
Subject: Problems with setvaluator and X
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 18:24:28 GMT

Hi,
Some of the SGI's that I work on have just been upgraded to X Windows.
One problem that I've encountered is that the setvaluator command doesn't seem to be working properly in X.  When using the command
with MOUSEX and MOUSEY, it sets the mouse value, but not its range
of movement.  I've included a simple program which uses setvaluator.
The program works properly on SGI's which are still using NeWS, 
but not on ones which are using X.
Any comments or solutions would be appreciated.

Thanks, Stan

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#include <gl.h>
#include <device.h>
#include <stdio.h>

main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
	prefposition(100,200,100,200);
	winopen(argv[0]);
	color(WHITE);
	clear();
	setvaluator( MOUSEX, 100, 100, 200 );
	setvaluator( MOUSEY, 100, 100, 200 );
	sleep(10);

	setvaluator( MOUSEX, 100, 0, XMAXSCREEN );
	setvaluator( MOUSEY, 100, 0, YMAXSCREEN );
}
From: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Lipman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Trying to run fsn (fusion)
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:39:50 GMT
Reply-To: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Lipman)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I just picked up fsn (fusion) from sgi.com.  I'm trying
to run it on a 420/vgx running irix 3.3.3 and I get a message
trying to access required shared library.  What am I missing.
Do I need 4.0?

Thanks in advance, e-mail please

Bob Lipman
From: marks@aivax.rl.af.mil (David Marks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  Suggestions wanted re: interface w/dumb motor
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:50:45 GMT

You could use the serial port in a simple manner by using
   ioctl(terminal_file_descriptor, TCSBRK, )

to send a .25 sec zero on the transmit data line of the port, and have the
device toggle on either the rising or falling transition.  I would be neat,
though, if SGI set asside a few bits (32, 64 or so) from the real memory
and pumped them through a buffer/driver and ran them to a small D50 connector
which one could then use as bit level memory mapped I/O.

Dave Marks
Rome Laboratory
marks@ra.rl.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: sysmark@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Mark Bartelt)
Subject: IRIX 4.0.[2-5] summaries?
Reply-To: mark@cita.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:36:20 GMT

In past months, there have been some discussions about SGI's annoying
(at least *I* find it annoying!) policy with regard to minor releases,
and who gets them.  As I understand things, SGI will send one of these
updates *only* to customers (covered by maintenance agreements) who've
either
	explicitly requested that it be sent
or
	reported a problem (to the TAC) which is fixed by the
	new release.

I recall hearing that 4.0.2 provides support for the new Indigo graphics
hardware, and also that 4.0.3 addresses the problems with colormaps on PIs
with eight-bit colour.  But there have been references to 4.0.4 here, and
4.0.5 appears to be just around the corner.

Would it be possible for one of the SGI folks to post a summary of which
bugs are fixed by each of these releases, so that we can know whether or
not we should ask for a copy?

Presumably the release notes for each of these are online somewhere back
there in Mountain View, so I don't expect it would be too hard to make
them available to your customers.

If it's too long to post to comp.sys.sgi, could it be put on sgi.com for
anonymous FTP access?

As I (and others) have pointed out before, many of us often don't bother
reporting a bug to the TAC if we know that someone else has done so.  It
would be a waste of our time, and yours.  But it would be nice to know
which (if any) of the 4.0.[2-5] releases I should ask you for.

For that matter, release dates would be useful as well.  It appears that
some of your customers have 4.0.4 already; is this the "official" 4.0.4
release, or a beta version?  The reason I ask is that I did log a call
with the hotline asking for 4.0.3, and it hasn't arrived yet.  When did
these various updates first start shipping, and how long does it take to
get them to everyone who's on the distribution list?

(I hope that my 4.0.3 release isn't stuck in another customs snafu!)

Mark Bartelt                                                416/978-5619
Canadian Institute for                             mark@cita.toronto.edu
Theoretical Astrophysics                           mark@cita.utoronto.ca

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From: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Alternate ical -- anyone have it?
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:20:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Habitat Ecology Div., Bedford Inst. Oceanography

Last year someone posted an enhanced version of ical which displays the time 
and a couple of other goodies like the phase of the moon.  I prefer it to
the standard ical, but under 4.0.1 it generates colour mapping problems.
Does anyone have the source for this?  All I want is a simple version that
will run on an 8-bit system and incoporate a time display -- there is 
enough junk on my screen, I don't need a separate clock too!

Thanks, Bill
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From: arc@kaibab.wpd.sgi.com (Andrew Cherenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: How do I tell my PI I ain't got YP?
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:35:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: sgi.jl1oceg
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr16.181055.7158@biome.bio.ns.ca> silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert) writes:
>"/etc/chkconfig yp" doesn't return anything.  

From chkconfig(1M):
 If "flag" is specified as the sole argument, chkconfig exits with status 0
 if "flag" is on, and with status 1 if "flag" is off or nonexistent.  The exit
 status can be used by shell scripts to test the state of a flag.

In this case, it doesn't print anything.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: mjz@texhrc.uucp (Michael Zeitlin)
Subject: pict to rgb
Organization: Texaco EPTD
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:57:31 GMT


      I tried converting a McIntosh Pict file using the portable
      pixmap filters (ppm) and ftp(in binary mode)...and generated
      garbage.....any ideas on what I did wrong?

      ftp> get pict file from mac..(using binary mode)

      frompict  to ppm....

      and then from ppm to rgb...

      then ipaste...

      then garbage....

  i did get this warning, however, when i tried to convert from the
  pict file:

picttoppm: linelen > rowbytes! (91 > 90) at line 630
picttoppm: linelen > rowbytes! (91 > 90) at line 631
picttoppm: linelen > rowbytes! (91 > 90) at line 632
picttoppm: linelen > rowbytes! (91 > 90) at line 633
picttoppm: warning, rectangles of different sizes after clipping!
picttoppm: linelen > rowbytes! (91 > 90) at line 51
picttoppm: linelen > rowbytes! (91 > 90) at line 52


    there must be a better way to convert mac pict files....

    any help will be most appreciated  .... thanks

    Michael Zeitlin

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Breakin attempts
Organization: Habitat Ecology Div., Bedford Inst. Oceanography
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:49:46 GMT

One way of identifying potential crack houses (if that is the right phrase)
is to set up some sort of mailing list of breakin attempts.  I haven't been
checking my logs, but I do have syslog=all, and I've noticed the following
attempts during the past week:

rwja.umdnj.edu, motion.EE.QueensU.CA, 130.159.208.16

Some of these later logged in via anonymous ftp.  One point I don't
understand is a line like:

Mar 30 19:26:31 biome login[1778]: failed: ?@rwja.umdnj.edu as anonymous

in the SYSLOG, since it seems that should have started a valid anonymous
ftp login (there was also the attempt
Mar 30 19:26:51 biome login[1778]: failed: ?@rwja.umdnj.edu as bassuk)

If anyone can clarify this it would be appreciated.

There were also lots of attempts on our dialup lines, but I assume that
these are local crackers, and anyway all I have in the log are the names
they tried to use.

Bill
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