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From: kilroy@ms.uky.edu (Paul S. Kilroy)
Subject: help compiling interviews
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:17:20 GMT
Organization: Big, Dangerous Ideas, Inc.

Hi,
	Has anyone out there compiled InterViews successfully
   on linux? I tried but dint get to far.. Errors with
   cpp before I even got to compiling actually..
	I was told on comp.windows.interviews that it was the
   compiler, they said "2.2.2 will not compile iv out of the 
   box, you need the beta version of 2.3". Well, I got 2.3
   off interviews.stanford.edu, and guess what.. I've had
   problems compiling that also, One thing is there is no
   configuration file for linux.. Does gnu know that linux
   exists? If not, or if there is a problem.. I think
   the appropriate config files need to be sent to 
   the appropriate ppl..
	If anyone can help in the least bit, I would 
   appreciate it.. Im new to porting and configuring 
   high level programs...

thanks in advance

paul

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                       -Paul   (kilroy@ms.uky.edu)
From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: mf: can't load library '/lib/XtVen.so.2.1'
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:41:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


 no, XtVen.so.2.1 IS part of Xfree86-1.1 (and mf uses the xt lib for 
displaying fonts or whatever one is drawing-see the mfpic stuff in
TeXlib.T.Z)
  thomas
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 14:44:14 -0400 
From: "David M. Nolan" <vitroth+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: 0.98pl1-Still no busmouse

I've just finished installing the latest patch, and Linux still won't
recognize my busmouse.  I downloaded the source for 0.98pl1 and compiled
it myself, still no good.  Is there something I need to do to fix this
problem, or is this still a bug??
 
My System:
Packard Bell- Axcel 486SX/20 
Packard Bell Busmouse (microsoft combatible)
PS/2 compatible keyboard 


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mjalava@lk-hp-10.hut.fi (Mika Matti Jalava)
Subject: Re: ANSWER: (Re: GCC report segmentation fault and dump core.)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:16:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.133650.20625@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!) writes:

>can someone translate this to idiot-speak for me?

I have very slow memory and it consists of parts of different speeds
that may also add to the problem.

>question - if the file is corrupted, why does 'doing it so many times'
>un-corrupt the file? it sounds like the joke about driving the car
>around the block to see if the flat tire fixes itself.

Actually, if you want to compare the problem to something like a car,
you could think about starting it. If it doesn't start the first time,
you try again. Same thing with the files: first time corrupted, try
again and hope it works OK. If not, then try again.

I am not suggesting to try downloading anything multiple times to get
around the problem. I just told what worked for me. I copied files
from floppy to the hd. A possible solution for you is to mount a
filesystem on a floppy and download the stuff there and try copying it
to the HD. Then sync and test with diff that what you got on the hard
disk is exactly identical to the files on the floppy. If not, copy
again. I hope the errors you get are as rare as mine. It might even
succeed. 

	Mika

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (David Monro)
Subject: odd problem with elvis, more
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:18:24 GMT

In insert mode in elvis, if I use the backspace key while typing it eats
characters to the right of the cursor, not the stuff I was typing in.
In more, if i type / to begin a search string and mistype the string, b-s
produces ^? chars and doesn't delete anything.
Any ideas?
-- 
David Monro
e-mail: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Andreas.Mengel@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Andreas Mengel)
Subject: loopdevice-patch for 0.98 ???
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:51:43 GMT
Keywords: loopdevices

Hi there!

Just a while back there were some patches for loopdevices around here
(I think they where for 0.96 and where from W (?) Almesberger).
I would reaaly like to have them again in 0.98 as I don't seem to be able to
mount a diskimage directly now (Sorry, have lost the patches in upgrading to
0.98).

Any suggestions ????
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.sys.transputer
From: gkt@iitmax.iit.edu (George Thiruvathukal)
Subject: Transputers and Linux
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:51:00 GMT

Is anybody out there using Linux to develop transputer software? If so, please
send me information about what you are doing and what tools you are using to
get it done.

For some time, I have been interested in porting gcc as a cross compiler for
the Inmos transputer family. Since I use T805-based boards from Computer
System Architects, my inclination is to cross compile to the T805. The T805
supports fixed and floating point and is a RISC processor. As these transputer
boards do not directly support I/O, an I/O server must be written to perform
I/O on the host processor, e.g. a PC running Linux.

If there is anybody out there interested in the possibility to work on a free
Linux-based toolset for transputers, or if someone is doing it already, please
let me know.

I will post a summary on this subject. Hopefully, there will be some responses
to warrant a summary.

-- 
George K. Thiruvathukal

IIT - School of Computer Science - gkt@iitmax.iit.edu
Tellabs - Data Communications Division - att!tellab5!gkt
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: d13f@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Bernd Lindner)
Subject: Help requested on booting linux on a PC with a SCSI disk.
Keywords: SCSI linux
Organization: Univ. Bremen, Informatik
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:13:01 GMT

I've the same problem with the ST0X-SCSI-drivers to boot and install
from floppy. 

My configuration:
486DX-33/16MB
ST296N
ST02

0.96c : no disk info ==> assuming 1GB disk & getting login prompt.
0.97 - 0.98.1 : disk info available, but detected as sd0 at scsi2
                     ==> hanging system: scsi host 2 timed out

is there a patch available to force the ST0X-SCSI-driver to detect all drives
at scsi1?

Any help apreciated.

Bernd Lindner
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ajb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (Alan Bleasby)
Subject: SCSI disc problem. Help appreciated
Organization: SERC Daresbury Laboratory, Warrington, UK
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:22:18 GMT


I assume this is a problem with bad blocks. We have two systems (details
given at end) on which we can't mkfs a file system. At (generally)
reproducible points in the mkfs the following type of message appears.

SCSI disk error: host 0 id 1 lun 0 return code = 000
scsi disk I/O error
dev 0813, sector 46506
aha1542-queuecommand: Two concurrent queuecommand?
f0 00 03 00 04 b5 a8 0a 00 00 00 00
SCSI disk error: host 0 id 1 lun 0 return code = 000
scsi disk I/O error
dev 0813, sector 46506
f0 00 03 00 04 b5 a8 0a 00 00 00 00
SCSI disk error: host 0 id 1 lun 0 return code = 000
scsidisk I/O error
dev 0813, sector 46508

.... and then the system hangs. This occurs on both systems. The aha1542B
does not allow a low-level format of the drives (at least from debug
-g=dc00:6) and the verification process has been little help. The drives
work happily with DOS (big deal). Whenever the above errors are reported
the bad(?) sectors always seem to be 2 sectors apart.

Question: Is there any mkfs or formatting procedure I can use within Linux
          to get a working filesystem? This could be a catch 22. Because
          of the problem I have little space for the sources (I was relying
          on the extra disc space for those 8-) I've been using e.g.
              mkfs -c /dev/sdb2 65534

Relevant System details:
  33Mhz 486DX 4Mb
  Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller
  Quantum LP105S Scsi0 Lun0   (fine on one system, flakey on the other)
  CDC 94171-9    Scsi0 Lun1   (only on one system.. the one where the
                               Quantum drive works fine)
  The CDC is a 330Mb drive.

  Both systems are running the first release of Linux 0.97 (boot & root)
  ftp'd from tsx-11

TIA for any help you can give.

Alan Bleasby
SERC Daresbury Laboratory
Daresbury
Warrington WA4 4AD
UK

Email: ajb@seqnet.dl.ac.uk

PS: Frequently Linux falls over when writing the partition info on the CDC
    too!
From: mrd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Mark Dobie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: POSIX books (was Re: Do we have an ``index'' function?)
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:56:42 GMT

>From Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org

>--------
>I like "POSIX Programmer's Guide", by Donald Lewine.  Its essentially
>a list of POSIX functions' man pages, with a very brief guide in the
>beginning of a few things.  It's published by O'Reilly & Associates,
>Inc.
>--------

I bought this book and it does look quite good. I have found some
errors in some of the example programs, but hopefully the reference
section is more reliable. My copy is first edition, maybe a second is
out now. Now I just need to save up for Xlib and Xview manuals :-)

Sorry this is not directly linux related. I'll install it as soon as I
get a computer, honest :-) Any day now hopefully....

				Mark.
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University of Southampton		M.R.Dobie@ecs.soton.ac.uk (The World)
From: bywater_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: New Zealander Wanted..
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:24:50 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: bywater_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Hi - IS there anyone in New Zealand who uses Linux - If so, could they
please mail me...

Cheers.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Will ATI cards work under X????
Originator: cs911461@a06.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:12:33 GMT




Greetings!

Is there anyone out there "in the know" about ATI cards?  A friend
of mine can't get X to work (at all) and has an ATI Wonder Plus
card.  Does X386 work with these boards?

Any info would be helpful :-)


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
From: simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon Marlow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: XFM 1.1: not work at all
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:10:17 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon Marlow) writes:

>OK everyone, the bug has been found. Many thanks to Bill Broadley for
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
oops, sorry - it was Peter Williams.

Simon
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ANSWER: (Re: GCC report segmentation fault and dump core.)
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:53:32 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

Now that info-zip has released 1.9, there are some good technical
reasons why using zip would be better than compressed tars:
  1. files are smaller
  2. you have a CRC and can tell right away when something is munged
  3. Since you can tell which file is munged you have a prayer of
     getting someone to send you just that file.

And the political reasons why we won't:
  1. it's not POSIX
  2. zip is a PC program (so use zoo, which started in UNIX)
  3. it's unsupported
  4. people won't understand something new.

Anyway, I've made the suggestion. At least maybe the archive
maintainers could create a CRCLIST file for each directory, so people
could tell if a file was corrupt after they download it. This could be
done by cron on a regular basis, so it's not an ongoing effort.

If this CRCLIST does get done, I highly commend Dhesi's brik program,
fast 32 bit CRC with the ability to do checks out of a file list. I use
it to check vital stuff for corruption daily. Public domain, source
availbale, runs under Linux.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mrex@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Martin Rex)
Subject: Re: Use of zip instead of compress
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:44:54 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:
: >lha		Pro:  Very good compression (better than 'zip').
: 
: Um, I think the newest InfoZIP zip/unzip beats LHA on compression.
: Anyone have some statistics?  (Sorry, comp.compression was one of the
: casualties in my .newsrc when I realized I read way too much news.  :)

I decided yesterday to move over to using zip as *MY* Linux compressor.
I just compiled the new zip-1.9 and unzip-5.0 and was quite surprized
by the good results.  I haven't really benchmarked it yet, but what
I've noticed is: zip is about 50%-80% slower than compress, and
unzip is about as fast as decompress!  The size difference is noticable;
I've tried it with the xprog-2.1.TZ which is 2560 KBytes uncompressed.
Compress reduces it to about 1050 KBytes and zip-1.9 goes down to
697 KBytes (one single tar-file in zip).  With freeze (it uses LHA
compression) it's about 760 KBytes (zip is about twice as fast as freeze).

Decompresssion with the new unzip is easy, you may pipe the output
in a tar.  Though I still not happy about the way to create the tar in zip.
When piping, I get "-" as the filename in the zip, but I would like
to have the file.tar name in there...

I think I will be using zip in the future and compress only when
I *need* to be portable -- that saves floppy and hd space.

-Martin

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help cant shell out of kermit..
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:17:41 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <Bvs7B1.FyM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X) writes:
| For some reason the control character that kermit specifies to use must not
| be working.  When I go into kermit and after I have typed "connect" I am
| essentially going to have to shut it down by killing it from another tty.
| What must I do to get ctrl-z, ctrl-c etc working after Ive "connect"ed?

  When Kermit goes into connect mode it prints the ONE escape character
which is used, all others are passed to the remote as they should be.
This information is pretty hard to miss, since it comes out in three lines
of detailed info as you enter connect mode the first time, and it's all
clearly spelled out in the manual.

  I wouldn't use ^Z and ^C with kermit, anyway, since it has well
documented (only and manual) ways to terminate or shell out.

-- 
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From: tep@engr.uark.edu (Tim Peoples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: I'd really like a *COMPRESSED* backup...
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:52:51 GMT
Reply-To: tep@engr.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas
Organiztion: University of Arkansas, Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering

Although gnu tar does allow multi-volume support and it also allows
on the fly compression, you just can't do both....at least not without
another utility.  Take a look at backflops.  This little beauty will
allow you to do both multi-volume AND compression.  You can find it
at tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/backflops.tar.Z.  I don't
have anything to do with this other than the fact that I really like it
and highly recommend it.

Enjoy,
Tim

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| Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering| of simms and sockets and semaphores |
| University of Arkansas, Fayetteville | of processes and pings....          |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: magnus@nybark.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: student of computer science at the University of Bergen, Norway
	<badger.718407347@phylo>
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:20:34

In article <badger.718407347@phylo> badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:

   I realize that this will probably fall on deaf ears, but BYTE did NOT
   write the article because "money rules" BYTE wrote a very intelligent
   article that asks the very important question: Should we still be using a
   1960's operating system in the 1990's? Cancelling a subscription to a magazine
   for asking a question that you really don't want to know the answer to is
   childish.

Should we still be listening to the 1960s music in the 1990s?
Seriously; there have been some changes since ken made it. What other
operating system can compete with Unix? 

   The fact is, as much as you may dislike MS-DOS (based on experience) or NT
   (based on rabid zealously against an unseen product), they both serve the
   needs of average users far better than UNIX can. UNIX is written by and for

I can`t agree with you. A lot of people would be better off using
Unix. On a PC or a real machine.

   programmers and is great for us -- I LOVE Linux.... but it never will be the
   dominant operating system....so lets end this useless thread and

How do you know Unix won`t be the dominant operating system? If you
put all the cotton onto Unix ( X, motif, framemaker and  other
friendly applications ) it`s a 'User-Friendly' system. (uch!)

   about the "infidels" that dislike UNIX as if we were Christian or Moslem
   fundamentalists....

My experience is that most people that know Unix like it. Those that
know only Windows like Windows. But those that know both Windows and
Unix (me for example) prefer Unix and it`s environment by far.

-Magnus
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: chdir question
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:08:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct8.160857.28727
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Oct8.112636.28226@athena.mit.edu> taten@bettan.syskga.se (Bosse Strinnholm) writes:
>
>When trying to change directory to a nonexisting one I usually
>expect the message `does not exist' or `no such file or directory'.
>
>In /usr/src I got the subdirectory linux and giving the command
>        cd tmp
>doesn't give me any errormessage. Instead I get my working directory
>changed to /tmp. 
>Is this a well-known behavior???
>

It depends. Since I set

export CDPATH=:$HOME

cd will check your home dir if it cannot find anything under cwd.

>BTW, I'm using H.J's 3rootdisk whith linux-0.97pl6-5.
>-bosse
>

Yes, I did that.
>-- 
>Bosse Strinnholm          Systemering i Karlskoga AB       Tel: +46 586 57000
>taten@bettan.syskga.se    Skrantahoejdsv 40                Fax: +46 586 57310
>                      	  S-691 46 Karlskoga, Sweden

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: /bin/su security problems?
From: sai@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Simon McAuliffe)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:13:53 GMT
Organization: VUW Anon-FTP Virus Archives (ftphost.vuw.ac.nz)
Originator: sai@kauri.vuw.ac.nz


I am not a regular reader of this newsgroup so this problem may already
have been addressed, but just in case it hasn't, I'll mention it.

When /bin/su is executed, the user executing the command assumes the
identity of somebody else.  This is real handy, but there may be a
slight problem in Linux's version.  /bin/su is also _supposed_ to
execute the user's shell (in their /etc/passwd entry).  By not
executing their shell, this is a potential security weakness.

Imagine, for example, a BBS which is started up by logging into a system
with the username 'bbs' and which doesn't require any password. The BBS
must own its working files and if each user of the BBS doesn't have
an /etc/passwd entry then the BBS must also own all the user files such
as mail.  This is fine since the BBS also prevents unauthorised users
from looking at other people's data.

Unfortunately, for any user that has some kind of shell access, there
is nothing to stop them from /bin/su'ing to the bbs user since there
is no password for the bbs user and this means the user could read
or alter BBS files.

This problem seems entirely too obvious not be have been noticed before,
or perhaps I am doing something stupid.  Is there some way to make
Linux's /bin/su execute the user's shell?  Have I just configured my
system incorrectly, or is this a real problem?

Please reply by mail because (as I said before) I do not regularly read
this newsgroup.

Thanks,
  Simon McAuliffe

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