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Subject:      re:unforgiven why clint can shoot straight

From: bc205z16@hofstra.bitnet
Subject: re:unforgiven why clint can shoot straight

i too enjoyed UNFORGIVEN however I would like to add my read of clints return
of his gunslinging prowess...he has (at the start of the film) rejected the
entire life of the outlaw.  Much of this is a physical change - he is older
(eg. he cannot ride his horse anymore, his pigs are dying (interesting
foreshadow that his pigs are sick-just when things are not right in the world)
as he relearns and reaccepts that he will always be a shootist his skill, never
really forgotton just surpressed returns and he is then able to shoot his
weapon. Apart from that though, don't forget that anyone can shoot a pistol at
something (or someone) at 20 feet and usually hit them...the trick is remaining
calm.  Clint has become personally resolved (resigned if you will) to
killing...to avenging...his own personal safety is forgotton. This being the
case, he is now able to shoot accurately and deadly.

thanks, bill
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Subject: Silence of the Haggis
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:30:31 GMT
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Just think -- if Hannibal Lecter had been a Scot raised on haggis,
he might have gone straight. Sad.

kjf-
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:48:15 -0400
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Denholm Elliot

Two memorable DE performances, off the top of my head:

GORKY PARK
BRIMSTONE AND TREACLE.

kjf-
From: EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET (Ellen.Edgerton)
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Subject: Favorites
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:38:52 GMT
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I've seen all the Required Classics and like to think I'm literate in
all eras of movies, but I have only been able to come up with three
movies worth being called favorites of mine, and they are
MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969), CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977),
and my favorite film, HENRY V (1989).

Strange how they all came out after I was born...these three movies
really strike chords in me that no other movies have.
From: YEE@DICKINSN.BITNET (Michelle Pfeiffer's Purrvert (Yee, Eugene))
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Subject: Basic Instinct
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:57:44 GMT
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Is this out on video yet?


Eugene "Euge" Yee        ###     #      #     ###          yee@dickinson.edu
                     #    #      # #### #      #    #      yee@dickinsn.bitnet
"Life's a        #         #     #      #     #         #
 bitch... and   #            ###          ###            # "He didn't even
 now so am I!"  #                                        #  lose a limb!  An
 - Michelle      #     ###   ##            ##   ###     #   eyeball!  Bladder
   Pfeiffer,       #  #    #     #      #     #    #  #     control!"
   Catwoman.          #            #  #            #        - Danny DeVito,
                                    ##                        Penguin.
                            R  E  T  U  R  N  S
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:49:32 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: unemployed politicos

Dick, you have--as a long past screenwriting teacher used to be fond of saying
to some of his students--a really fecund imagination.  This is supremely
wonderful stuff, and you should be either locally columned, syndicated or
both!  Jeff Clark

P.S.: My staff have been enjoying all your entries too.  We *need* some heavy-
duty levity down here in the basement of a library, and you've been a prime
source.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:44:19 -0400
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Henry V and Henry V

I saw Olivier's before I saw Branagh's, but that was years ago and I
don't remember it very well.  For a movie that is renowned to be
the first really great Shakespeare film adaptation, I find that not
a lot of people have actually >seen< it.  That's kind of sad.  It's a
great movie.

When Branagh's came out I was rather disappointed at how film critics
contented themselves with compare-and-contrast essays.  Happily, now
it is possible to find some very good and interesting articles on
the 1989 film that don't rely on this type of comparison as their
central argument.  It's nice to see that just in the three years
since it was released, Branagh's film is becoming regarded by more
and more people as a true classic, and not just a timely remake.

One of my friend's parents is a high school English teacher and she
reports that her use of the film in class has been very successful.

It's great that two versions of one story on film can be so
different and yet so equal in overall quality.
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Subject: Re: Akira
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:05:45 GMT
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If you attend Science Fiction conventions, or have friends that do.
You can pick up a copy of Akira quite easily.  I have obtained a english
dubbed, extended version of the movie.

Also, if you are a fan of japanese animation, videos (laser discs are
just now starting to come out) are available at these conventions.

Carol Doms
University of Missouri-Kansas City
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:23:13 EDT
From:         Rob Rosenthal <ST801736@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: unemployed politicos

  God almighty, the scary part is that those actually sound like real TV
shows!  Where's _Network_ when you need it?

                                               Rob Rosenthal
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:58:40 EST
From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      MTM in Ordinary People

I agree that MTM's character in OP was not strong at all.  In fact, the fact
that her son, who eventually deals with his pain and anger, is in therapy
and not her sets up a wonderful conflict throughout the film.

Perhaps MK refers to the fact that the MTM character makes such a strong
presence in the film or carries such a strong focus of the film and it should
not be confused with the fact that her character is not strong at all.

Also, to use the "S" word one more time, Moore's performance is her strongest
ever.  I wish to this day she would further develop the superb acting talent
she displayed in this film!
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:21:39 -0400
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject: Re: southern comfort/haggis

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            08-Oct-1992 10:36am EDT
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SUBJECT: RE: Re: southern comfort/haggis

    Haggis are not alone with that interesting adaptative characteristic.

    There is a related species living in the French Alps, called the Dahu.
    Dahus are bigger than Haggis and hunting them is a little more
    difficult, in part because it requires Brussels sprouts. One has to lay
    still and well hidden until a Dahu passes by, then put the Brussels
    sprouts, which they are *very* fond of, behind it. They can't resist
    turning around to get their favorite treat... and meet their tragic
    fate down the hill. Dahus are also on the verge of extinction due
    mostly to winter sports developments. They are not hunted much because
    their meat is actually not particulary good.

    Still in the Alps, there is a bird called "Tournagasse" which has one
    leg shorter than the other. In a remarkable monograph published last
    century in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of
    London, Professor R.T. Fact shows how this trait evolved to allow this
    bird to perch efficiently on the roofs of Swiss mountain chalets.
    Unfortunately, this study came out about the same time Darwin published
    his work on the Galapagos birds and Prof. Fact's work didn't get the
    attention it deserved.

    Finally, a friend who worked for the Peace Corps in Colombia told me
    that there is a relative of the Haggis living in the Andes (sorry, I
    forgot the name). The kids of the village there once took her with them
    for a hunt. No luck then: that animal is quite rare.

    Strangely, I've never heard of a similar animal in North America.

    MICHEL
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Subject: Reviews
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:43:00 GMT
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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     14-Oct-1992 03:41pm DST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
                                                  ELGFROEHRER
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                                        Tel No:   (814) 865-5403

TO:  Remote Network Mail User             ( _IN%CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET )


Subject: Reviews

Hey, did anyone keep a copy of the Presidential Debate Review that RDC,SJ
posted?  I accidentally dumped mine in the watebasket.  I have the V.P. review
but would like a copy of the Prez one.  Can someone send me a copy please?

Thanks!
Ellen
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:28:00 PDT
From:         310 Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 <CSP1DWD@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Contact for LAMAIL on TSO

>  Also, is there NETNEWS RDR and/or GOPHER available for TSO ?

Yes, to both... contact Stephen Bacher (seb1525@mvs.draper.com) at
Draper Labs. He has a most wonderful and useful NetNews Reader for the
MVS/TSO/ISPF environment, it is called NNMVS. Subsequently he took
Shawn Hart's MVS/TSO Gopher Server and brought it up to date, at the
same time he produced a Gopher client for the MVS/TSO/ISPF environment.
Ask Stephen for the places where the code is publicly available... the
packages are very easy install and a joy to use!

-- Denis
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:14:30 CDT
From:         Frank Vance <FrankVance@AIRGUN.WG.WAII.COM>
Subject:      Re: RSMTP aliases definition on MVS
              7, 92 4:30 pm

Leonard D Woren writes:
>
> Does it get boring if I say that UCLA/Mail is a good solution to this?
>

Only if you do not tell me how to get it, how to get more information,
and how much it co$t$ for commercial users to license.

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From: TOMPKINS@AKRONVM.BITNET (Frank Tompkins)
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Subject: Network solicitor questions
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:31:23 GMT
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Greetings,

I am asking these questions on behalf of a site that does not currently
have Internet access.

The site has MVS TCP/IP v2.2.0 installed, and is not satisfied with the
network solicitor screen that comes with the product.  Specifically,
they would like the solicitor screen to mimic their existing VTAM
USSMSG10 logo screen, and permit users to specify applications by a
generic name, rather than by the VTAM application name.  With this
background, I have three questions.

  1)  Our IBM SE has indicated that the network solicitor distributed
      with TCP/IP is written in an internal development language (PL/AS),
      and that TCP development is aware of at least two sites have tried
      to modify it but were unsuccessful.  Has anyone succeeded in modifying
      the distributed network solicitor to provide the above mentioned
      functionality?

  2)  Under VTAM V1, I believe there was a product called NETSOL that
      provided this functionality.  I read somewhere recently that this
      software was now freely available.  Is this true, does it come
      with source code, and where can it be obtained from?

  3)  Other than purchasing a session manager, or writing a network
      solicitor from scratch, are there any other solutions that
      provide the above mentioned functionality?

Thank you for your time in this matter.  I will post a summary to
individuals who request so, or to the list if I get enough requests.
                                   - Frank

P.S.  I have suggested that the site needing this functionality
      officially request IBM to provide this in future releases,
      perhaps through exits, or a configuration table.

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:46:00 -0800
From:         John Halperin <JXH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Subnetting with VM TCP/IP

>  We are running VM TCP/IP 2.2 and cannot get a subnet of an existing
>  network to be recognized correctly during OBEYFILE processing. The main
>  class B network is 128.141.0.0. The subnetwork is 128.141.245.48 (i.e.
>  the mask is 255.255.255.248). We tried various permutations but the
>  one which made the most sense would not work and ended with a
>  message indicating the network was already defined. The GATEWAY TCPIP
>  file entries for the gateway command are included below:
>
>   128.141  =              fib1  1498  0
>   128.141  128.141.22.83  fib1  1498  0.0.255.248   0.0.245.48

I gather that you've got a large bridged network and you're trying
to add an FDDI segment behind a router.  I also assume you're using
static routing in FAL and not using 'routed'.  Try specifying the
main network as subnetted, but use '0' as the subnet value to
indicate a default subnet:

    128.141  =              fib1  1498  0.0.255.248   0
    128.141  128.141.22.83  fib1  1498  0.0.255.248   0.0.245.48

That works for us.

By the way, do you really want a subnet mask of 255.248?  Having only
3 bits for the host address field  (maximum of 6 hosts on any subnet)
doesn't seem like it would be very useful.

--  John Halperin  <JXH@SLACVM.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
    Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:34:01 -0400
From:         Charles D Fisher <fishercd@ORNL.GOV>
Subject:      Re:Network solicitor questions

Try contacting Richard Peurifoy (-I hope I spelled that right-) at Texas A&M,
e-mail at x229rp@tamvm1.tamu.edu.  He has some code that will do exactly what
you want.  I use it here and present telnet users with a screen that is nearly
identical to our VTAM USSMSG10.  It's easy to tailor Richard's code so that
commands entered work just as they would if they went through USS table
processing.  Another big plus is that after about six months I've yet to find
any bugs in the stuff.

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Subject: Re: Name Server Requirements
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              13 Oct 1992 10:32:39 EDT from <FJH%SRU.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:32:39 EDT Fran Hensler said:
>I have heard that in order to run a name server in VM TCP/IP
>you must also have VM SQL installed.  Is this true?

If you want to run a domain name server you under VM you must have SQL.

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From: Maschtera@EDVZ.UNI-LINZ.AC.AT (Wilfried Maschtera)
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Subject: VMNFS 2.2 again
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:28:37 GMT
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About one hour ago I sent the letter below to the list. In the mean
time I learnt that using MOUNTPW before MOUNT yields the desired result.
The User's Guide, p. 121, says: "The MOUNTPW command provides an
alternative path for sending password....." but it seems to me it is
a must and not an alternative.

Regards / Wilfried

===================================================================

The console log of VMNFS contains among others the following messages:

Issuing this commnad:

    VMNFS R

RACF access control will be used to validate NFS mount requests.

If I try to mount my 191 Disk from SUN OS the console log shows
that the CP Link is used:

Return code 1298 from "EXECIO 0 CP (STRING LINK userid vaddr1 vaddr2 RR
PASS= xxxxx"  (there is a blank between '=' and the password).

VMNFS is in the same group as our FTP-Server. With this server I have no
problems.Also I think that the RACF definition for VMNFS are correct. If I
issue

SM VMNFS m cms alternat VMNFS userid

I can mount the disk without any problem.


What is wrong ? Is it really necessary that each user who want to use this
service has to permit the access ?
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:46:19 EDT
From:         Bill Rubin <rubinm@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Misc MVS questions

Leonard D Woren <LDW%USCMVSA.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU> writes
>
> On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:34:46 EDT, Ron Lane <RONLANE@YKTVMV.BITNET> said:
> >  2)Cover letter says TCP 2.2 does not require OPER SPECIAL authority?
> >    What authority does it require?
> >
> > Base 2.2 was supposed to eliminate the need for FTP to be in OPERATNS
> > authority, but a PTF was required to include Rename and Delete.  With
> > the PTF, FTP can run under any userid, since the TCB is now changed
> > to point to the RACF ACEE of the userid that logged on for all
> > functions.
>
> Is this in the 2.2.1 base?  If not, What is the PTF number for 2.2.1,
> or the APAR number?
>
> /Leonard

Let me elaborate on Ron's post and answer your question.  Obviously, there
is no PTF to fix this for MVS 2.2 as there ARE no PTFs for MVS 2.2. We did
intend not to require OPERATNS authority in MVS 2.2, but some of the code
didn't get out, so it is still required.  We fixed the code shortly after
2.2 shipped, and intended to ship it as a PTF to that release.  But we
didn't.

However, I am pleased to say that the fix *is* in the base MVS 2.2.1
release.

Bill Rubin IBM TJ Watson Research
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:32:21 EDT
From:         Richard Ryniker <ryniker@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      VMNFS and RACF

Ref: Wilfried Maschtera <Maschtera@EDVZ.UNI-LINZ.AC.AT> Wed, 7 Oct 1992

When using RACF, it may be necessary to send both a VM userid and its
login password to VMNFS.  When VMNFS has both of these, it uses Diagnose
D4 to become a surrogate for the specified VM userid before issuing a CP
LINK command for a CMS minidisk to be mounted.

If both are not supplied, no surrogate identity is established and VMNFS
will issue the LINK command under its own authority.  This supports
access to public disks.

Userid and password information may be supplied either in the mount
command, or (up to five minutes) earlier using mountpw.  When a mount
request is received, VMNFS merges any data from an earlier mountpw
request for the same minidisk before proceeding with the mount operation.

If two mountpw operations are emitted from the same client for the same
minidisk, data from the first is discarded and only information from the
second is preserved.

I suspect in the case that worked both userid and password were supplied;
in the case that failed, one was either missing or incorrectly written.

-Richard Ryniker                       IBM Research
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From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RSMTP aliases definition on MVS

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:24:11 MET, Eva Hocks <hocks@RZHP9A.GSI.DE> said:
> SMTP configuration file on AIX allows to specify an aliases file to map userID
>  such as
> postamaster: root . How can that be done on the MVS SMTP configuration ? I wou
>  like to map
> user names to cryptic MVS logon IDs.
> Eva

Does it get boring if I say that UCLA/Mail is a good solution to this?

/Leonard
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:44:34 CDT
From:         Frank Vance <FrankVance@AIRGUN.WG.WAII.COM>
Subject:      Re: V2.2.1 shipping?
              8, 92 5:35 pm

Michael Stein writes:
>
> Has anyone (in the USA?) received their auto-ship MVS TCP/IP
> V2.2.1 yet?
>
> Any ideas on when it should arrive?
>
I got an expedited shipment.  In talking to someone else (an IBM internal
account), he stated that the tapes had been slightly delayed.  No reason
was specified.  He was going to arrange an expedited shipment for his
account, as well.

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