HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alpha@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Alpha Schram)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Greetings from a friend
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:36:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Amateur Radio Club, California USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: w6yx.stanford.edu

In article <9301211034.AA27342@pizzabox.demon.co.uk> gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>:    As my friend can attest, I'm also a fan of erotica.  I enjoyed reading the
>:recent post about Lile's first time making love to another woman. I have
>:written 2 (fictional) stories about such encounters, but they pale in comparison
>:to first-hand accounts.  I really would like to hear real-life stories from
>:bisexuals, recounting any kind of sexual experiences.
>
>Does that include from the guys, by any chance?
>
>G

I'd LOVE to read it.  POST IT!  Or send it to me e-mail, Graham.

Alpha

***********************Blonde, Buxom, Bisexual, Badass Biker********************
-- 
Alpha Schram	alpha@w6yx.stanford.edu*################15################
1974 CB360 (Sexy Sadie)		       *#########Molly Goodenbour######### 
"It's not a big motorcycle,	       *####Stanford Women's Basketball###
just a groovy little motorbike..."     *---------ROMANI ITE DOMUM---------
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sa121@cl.cam.ac.uk (S. Arrowsmith)
Subject: Re: How to have a good cry?
Reply-To: SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Glad to be Sad
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:54:42 GMT

In article <30837@castle.ed.ac.uk> moragw@castle.ed.ac.uk (Alloy Serving Woman) writes:
>
>I think I used up all my tears when I was a child, I am aggresively
>defensive when upset nowadays.  
>
"All tears shed long ago" -- yeah, know what you mean.  But I always
got attacked all the more for crying, being a boy -- it was a case of
forever being told not to show any emotion whatsoever.  Particularly
not aggression.  They trained me pretty well, you know -- this wall
of defensive lack of emotion is as good as impenetrable.  There's
not really anything left for me to cry for.

> [ ... ] I used to buy cheap crockery from jumble sales and take them
>out to the drive where I'd hurl them at the wall.  It was very
>satisfying.  
>
Destruction has always been more upsetting than satisfying to me -- I
tend to regret anything of that sort rather quickly.  The only time 
that sort of thing has been even slightly useful was after one of my
second-year undergrad exams, when I repeatedly threw one of my shoes
at a wall, until I started feeling guilty 'cos it was leaving marks....

--
\S
SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk | "Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for
        ___         |  some people it is a complete substitute for life."
        \X/         |     -- Andrew Brown, The Independent
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kyraan@bach.udel.edu (Stephen Ch Litterst)
Subject: Re: ST:Deep Space Nine, possible bi?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:11:36 GMT

In article <1k4t1eINN4o8@fnnews.fnal.gov> rohrer@fncrd6.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer) writes:
>In article <1k4i4lINN6sj@umbc8.umbc.edu> ac999273@umbc.edu (ac999273) writes:
><stuff deleted>
>
>Remember that, through three different bodies (male, Riker, female), the
>ambassador was still attracted to Bev.  Either that last body wasn't
>straight, or the slug itself has its own preferences or lack thereof...
>Of course, from a tale Sisko related to Bashir at lunch, this would
>mean Dax should be able to deal with, if not actively prefer, women...
>
><more deletion>
>
>	Keith
> 
The closest they've come to talking about the possibility of her bi-ness is
that she mentioned to Kiera that she was having problems getting used to 
being female again.   She was enjoying being female, but hadn't been for
80+ years.

					Steve



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| "Life is far too brief , Existence is  |
| Stephen C. Litterst           |  meaningless, and the Universe has no  |
| kyraan@bach.udel.edu           \ purpose. That's the way it is, folks."|
|_litterst@freezer.cns.udel.edu___\_________ -Allan Dean Foster__________|
From: alpha@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Alpha Schram)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
Date: 23 Jan 1993 02:20:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Amateur Radio Club, California USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: w6yx.stanford.edu

In article <7320@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500mary@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Mary Cardenas) writes:
>In article <1ieundINNfrl@transfer.stratus.com> pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:
>
>[Insights about lesbians shunning bi-women deleted]

I guess I'm lucky--my local rap group is comparitavely open-minded about
bi's (except for a few with the same "won't date a bi" policy)--but I tend
to downplay the fact that I am currently dating a man when I go to these
groups.

Alpha

***********************Blonde, Buxom, Bisexual, Badass Biker********************


-- 
Alpha Schram	alpha@w6yx.stanford.edu*################15################
1974 CB360 (Sexy Sadie)		       *#########Molly Goodenbour######### 
"It's not a big motorcycle,	       *####Stanford Women's Basketball###
just a groovy little motorbike..."     *---------ROMANI ITE DOMUM---------
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca (Nigel M Burnett)
Subject: Nigel & Clarisse --> England
Organization: as little as possible
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:01:46 GMT


Oyez!  Oyez!  Oyez!

It is hereby by proclaimed to the entire readership of soc.bi
that we're out of here this Sunday evening at 19:50 and 
arriving at LHR bright-tailed and bushy-eyed at 7:30 the next
morning.  We'll be staying in the "Spread Eagle" (oh yeah??)
in Thame (doesn't rhyme with Thames) for <= 1 week and trying
to find accomodation in the Oxford/Newbury/Reading triangle.

Any leads on nice fully-furnished houses for 400-550 pounds
per month (3 or 4 bedroom) will entitle the lead provider
with everlasting gratitude and a peek at my Good Vibrations
Catalogue.

"nigel@kathunk...." will go to the same place as the picture
on your television goes THIS SUNDAY.  Until I get some
e-mail in Britain, please send stuff to "nigel@isgtec.com".
It'll sit there in Mississauga (Toronto) until I forward it
on and send out another message like this with more details.

If you just *have* to call, try (44) 635 524504.  That's
the office in Newbury Berkshire and they'll track me down.

I will try to get out individual messages before I leave
but we've been a tad busy :-( lately.  A special hello
and auf wieder sehn to the Ottawa folks - t'was a great
dinner.

Unless they send me off to some boring place like Paris or
Vienna, we'll meet everyone in Cambridge on Feb 13th.  Ooooh!

Cheers
Nigel

p.s.  The cheapest way to get to England was to buy return
tickets and ignore the return portion.  I have two tickets
(1M,1F) good on Air Canada flight 857 Feb 25 Thursday
departing at 13:05 arrive Toronto 15:55.  The face value
of the ticket is Cdn$254 = Pounds 127.  Anybody interested
in either or both - 50 pounds/one 75/both.  Buyer gets to
deal with checkin.  I have personally done this with
someone else's tickets but some years ago.  Y.M.M.V.

N.

-- 
Nigel Burnett    44-635-524504  | Internet is so big, so powerful and so
ISG Technologies Inc.           | pointless that for some people it is
Richmond House, Bath Road       | a complete substitute for life."
Newbury, Berks, RG13 1QY        | - Andrew Brown, The Independent
** send e-mail to "nigel@isgtec.com" from Jan 31 till further notice **
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Subject: Re: soc.bi Frequently Answered Questions (FAQ)
Organization: Eris's Restaurant
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:13:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.170248.28682@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.164530.29748@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>>And.... hehehe... I'm just about to catch a train to Cambridge :)
>>stalk... stalk... stalk... stalk...  Coo-ee, Guy.... comin' to getcha!
>Hard luck because I'm not there...

Grrrrrrrr.... so there I was, standing in the Computer Laboratory....
[sharpens claws, growls, pounces on the Internet, drags it round the
room, gets tangled up in it falls over...]

>(Isn't the Internet a wonderful thing?)

Yes, but it's not fair, I tell you, misdirecting me like that! [rubs
nose ruefully where he's fallen over on it]


				Kay

-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: ST: Deep Space Nine, possible bi?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:21:46 +0000

:there--I still don't like it.  My other favorite episode where the writers
:ducked out is the one where Geordie Laforge falls in love with this brilliant
:engineer he's created a copy of on the holodeck, and she meets him and finds
:out about it and is royally annoyed because it's nothng like her, and when
:she's cooled off she explains that she's not interested anyway (even though she
:holds him in the highest regard) because she's...married.  They talk about
:death OK in that show, why can't they have a lesbian whom we're never going to
:see again anyway? Rats. 

You spotted that too!  Yes, I was convinced she was about to say she was
lesbian, and felt slightly ill at ease with the episode from that point on.

G
"So is the Captain having an affair with Crusher?" - J Random Fan.
"Which one? Beverly or Wes?" - Patrick Stewart.
Xref: sparky soc.bi:19255 soc.motss:58545 alt.homosexual:681
From: cujtd@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Devore)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss,alt.homosexual
Subject: gay phone company
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:27:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.1k3oplINNs6f
Organization: Educational Computing Network
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

I am a member of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Allies Union at Eastern
Illinois University in Charleston, Illinois.

	At last night's meeting, one of the members mentioned something
about a long distance phone company that is "pro-gay."  I believe he
mentioned something about that company donating a percentage of their
profits to gay groups.

	Does anyone know what I am talking about?  Any information would
be greatly appreciated.

			-Jeff Devore

-- 
    **********************************************************************
    *     Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual,     * Jeff Devore       cujtd@bgu.edu  * 
    *         & Allies Union          *      Eastern Illinois Univ.      *
    ********************************************************************** 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: carl@sscl.uwo.ca (Carl Kaufmann)
Subject: Re: What does "muffin" (& demuffin!) mean?
Organization: Soc.Sci.Comp.Lab., U.West.Ont.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:57:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.010115.1153@Princeton.EDU>, mhnatsis@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martha Helen Natsis) writes:
> A quick question...
> What's a muffin?

What you aren't anymore.  Namely, a lurker.

> and how does one get demuffined?

By doing what you just did.  Namely, posting.
 
Welcome to soc.bi.

<pounce, hug, snuggle, kiss, lick, etc.>

> -still looking for a cute .sig

If you see something you like feel free to ask. ;)
 
*******************************************************************************
*  See how the heart reaches  *  Carl Kaufmann   *    Trust is the ultimate   *
*  out instinctively, for no  * Soc.Sci.Comp.Lab *    aphrodisiac.            *
*  reason but to touch.       *    U.West.Ont    *                            *
*        -Kate Bush           * carl@sscl.uwo.ca *       -Me                  *
*******************************************************************************
From: mjw19@cl.cam.ac.uk (M.J. Williams)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: soc.bi orgies (was: Why I read a.s.a.r)
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:07:39 GMT
Reply-To: MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: The National Society for the Inversion of Cudddly Tigers

In article <C15J8t.InD@newcastle.ac.uk> J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:
>I'm going to the Cambridge party not because of anything physical that might
>go on (and which might even include me if I'm really lucky:-) but because:
>
>(a) It will be a bi-friendly space, a rare (for me) chance to be completely
>at ease and myself.
>(b) Many of the people on this group are among the very nicest people I
>know, and socialising with them is truly enjoyable. (Especially as it's
>such a contrast to my everyday life of almost unmitigated loneliness,
>fighting against depression _and_ the T**s** deadline at the same time).
>
>For those two reasons I'd hate to miss it; and I'm sure they're roughly
>the same reasons why everyone else is going.

(a) I'm going because I've never been to such a party before. It will be an
interesting experience for me...
(b) ditto.

The other reason is that I was overdrawn over the summer and couldn't afford to
go to Edinburgh. I would further have to explain to my parent's why this party
was so good that I was willing to go further into debt to attend it, and I'm
not up to that yet. Trying to explain my trips to London is hard enough... Any
way, as you can tell from my address, going to this party will be far cheaper.

Mike.
--
____________________________________________________________________________
\  /  / Michael Williams                     Part II Computer Science Tripos
|\/|\/\ MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk                          University of Cambridge
|  |(__)Cymdeithas Genedlaethol Traddodiad Troi Teigrod Mwythus Ben I Waered
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: nsn@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas)
Subject: Re: Nick's back
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:00:32 GMT

woodhous@latcs3.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
>nsn@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas) writes:
>>*STILL* not that talkative... lots of dream castles have been crashing here
>>and there recently...
>   I can only begin to imagine the long talks we'll have once I'm back
>home, eh? 8-P
As can I... :-|

>>... I'll have a go at being a het who sleeps with men :) ...
>   But... Nick!?! Will you still do bar mitzvahs???
Well, they'll probably be bas mitzvahs with guys, I dunno...

>   Good to see you back here, m'friend...

And with thy spirit, comrade...

"... to o'neiro pou feu'gei thn troma'zei	
 ... the dream which is leaving terrifies her"

Incidentally, we're still awaiting a blow-by-blow (DON'T SAY IT, Laurie8! :)
description of your American sojourn. :)

(Unsubtle subtext: I'm not the only one whose castles... never mind.)

Enjoy San Frannie, my regards to Micchelino and Roy and t'others, and
non-theism-specific god speed you home.

(Got any good parties lined up for March? :)

Nick, who hopes his CogSci application don't get lost *again*...
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: daveb@harlqn.co.uk (Dave Berry)
Subject: Safer sex (was Re: Why I read a.s.a.r. (was: For Non-Abused Skeptics))
Organization: Harlequin Ltd, Cambridge, UK
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:05:04 GMT

ss19@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>   Deep kissing _might_ be safe.
>
>   Anything else is not.

If you want up-to-date information, phone an AIDS helpline, such as the
National AIDS Helpline (which is free).  BUt here are some other things
you should know. Caveat: I don't have the latest info, I'm not an expert
and I've never worked in AIDS counselling or education.

If you use sex toys in penetrative sex, either don't use them on anyone else,
cover them with latex, or wash them thoroughly in hot soapy water between
users.

Don't share hypodermic needles.  Or razors or toothbrushes.  If you can't
get enough needles for everyone to have one each, wash them in bleach and
rinse in water between users.

Avoid amounts of drugs that lead you to act irresponsibly in sexual
situations.  Remember that drugs often give you a false sense of competence,
including your ability to handle more of the drug.

Monogamy is safe, provided you know that you and your partner are HIV-,
which involves two tests 6 months apart, and provided that both of you
remain honest enough to tell the other if you ever do have unsafe sex
outside the relationship.

Celibacy is safe.

I've never heard of a case of HIV tranmission by kissing.  There has been
much discussion on how safe oral sex is; rthe current "line" is that you
should use latex barriers.  This is especially true if you have mouth ulcers
or if your gums bleed (e.g. when you brush your teeth).

Dave.

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: vdijk@io.tudelft.nl
Subject: Re: Ethics...
Organization: TU Delft, Faculty IO
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:14:16 GMT

> "It's about friendship, Leo.  Friendship, character, and - hell, I ain't
> afraid to use the word - *ethics*!"
> 
> (Massive bonus points to anyone who can ID the quote, but none if you
> don't think Gabriel Byrne is a hunk.)

Okay, let me have a go - I'am all in for massive pointing by bi hippies:
guess the quote is from Windom Earle.  I'm clueless about whoever Byrne
might be though.  (If my guess is wrong, I'll do with a backrub for
comforting..)

Casper

> Mike Lloyd, B0/1 h- f- t w- g+ k+ s m- e? |    "Bloody nose and burning eyes
>       Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and      |  Raised in laughter to the skies"
>           backrubber of devotion          |                 - Bruce Cockburn
>                --The end of confusion is the beginning of death--

Casper G.C. van Dijk               "Broken words,
Delft University of Technology      never meant to be spoken"
the Netherlands                                    Bob Dylan
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: smoir@world.std.com (Scott A Moir)
Subject: Re: A philosophical question...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:59:54 GMT

>In article <1993Jan19.020819.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>
>cvadrgih@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>
>#  Which is worse?
>#  
>#       For a guy to dump his boyfriend for a girl, or
>#       For a guy to dump his boyfriend for another guy.

Neither. both are partners, and by definition should have equal status.

Scott


-- 
Scott Moir  /  Satyr on IRC    ______ # "There's really only one requirement 
smoir@world.std.com            \ \/ / #  for a Prophet, and you've got it."
B4 f t+ w g k+(+!) s+ m r p+    \/\/  # "What's that?"
Also: pentangl@ursa-major.spdcc.com   # "A mouth." - 'God' to J.R.'BoB' Dobbsl
From: st891487@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Schwartzberg, Queen of Spades)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Blatant Boston-area Plug
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:12:35 GMT
Reply-To: st891487@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

For anybody interested (Points!), the Brandeis BSCF (s-f comics weirdo
co) 24-hour moviethon will be held on Valentine's Weekend. At Brandeis
University, exact dates and times forthcoming, ditto movie list, Waltham,
MA. For more details email. Why Valentine's?
1. you can bring your SO.
2. you can run away from your SO.
3. you can ignore the fact tht you have no SO by sitting in the dark
with the rest of us sad bastards watching movies for an ENTIRE DAY.
4. It's a great first date: you get to snuggle up in the dark, no 
pressing need for conversation, and there are 10-20 minute breaks in
between movies so that you can converse if you so desire.

Well, WE like it.

hearts and flowers,

  -Schwartzberg
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From:  orc@sybase.com (Orc)
Subject: Re: Mike's Sex Drive (was Re: grumble)
Reply-To: ss19@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Department of Ambiguity
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:27:03 GMT

In article <1jkljv$r1h@agate.berkeley.edu> mlloyd@ocf.berkeley.edu (M. Lloyd) writes:
>  (That assumes there's a male orgasm or two in
>there somewhere; anyone who wants to brag about being male and being
>capable of going {and coming} all night is pointed in the direction of
>alt.sex ;-)

   Been there.  Seen that.  Done it.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ blatant e-slut
                  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eowyn@brahms.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis)
Subject: Re: Appearances on and off the net (was Re: Why I read a.s.a.r)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:11:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.055539.22112@midway.uchicago.edu> ss19@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>   I'm quite shy and demure on the net.  I don't recall ever fondling
>anyone in public on the net.  Nor engaging in motss PDA'ing in the
>busiest airport in the world on the net.  Nor, for that matter,
>being topped in Birmingham New Street station on the net.

Off-net, with people from the net, though...Are you sure you've never fondled
anyone in public on the net?  What about in private?  Wouldn't surprise me at
all...and I guess Philly airport isn't exactly the busiest airport in the 
world, especially not the bit we were in, but may I say that I thought your 
motss PDA was *very* cute....

>   I'm worse in real life.  As long as no trains are around.

Yep.  You are.
<-|
>                ____
>  david parsons \bi/ Who's wondering if he's still employed after his last
>                 \/  display of blatancy...

I was under the impression that displays of blatancy were what you were being
employed for...or at least, what you were employing...

Zoe

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: an2839@anon.penet.fi (Archer)
Subject: Re: Polyamory and friendships
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.bi
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:47:33 GMT

orc@sybase.com (Orc) writes:
>     Have you and/or Debbie come out (so to speak) and told him that
> you two fancy each other?  That's a start.

Yes.

>    If keeping their relationship together is your primary concern,
> it might be better to mention to each of them that they discuss it,

They've been discussing the general subject for months, and I come up
from time to time.  She is sick of it being all discussion and no
changes, he's worried that he's pushing himself to be something he is
not.

> sweep in and take Debbie away.  (And if you and Debbie keep doing
> what you've described, I'd give a really high chance that he'll
> become insanely jealous and act in such a way to drive Debbie away,
> most likely into the arms of her nearest MOTAS friend.  If that's
> you, that would kill your friendship with the man.)

Bingo.  :(

>    Communicate.  Bail out if you feel that you're a threat, and
> being sexual with Debbie isn't as important as remaining friends
> with David or keeping their relationship intact.

I want to keep my friendship with them both.

> If he's got net access, point him at alt.polyamory,

He reads it (hmm... forgot to subscribe... fixed soon enough! :)

Thanks for the input... keep it comming; this will take some time
anyway to work out.

>                  ____
>    david parsons \bi/ Who's been in that boat, and didn't like it one
>                   \/  damn bit.

Hey!  Where's the hugs I asked for!  What kind of support group is
this???  ;)

-"Archer"
 interested in far too many people who can't/haven't done anything due
to these sort of things
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From: yal@lingua.cltr.uq.OZ.AU (Yvette Lian)
Subject: Unashamed....
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:11:53 GMT

Well, folks... this is a completely, utterly unashamed request for birthday
greetings of any kind!  I turn 19 on the 31st of January (yippee).. I
figure this post might have propagated by that stage :)

I've just gotten home (well, I got home a few days ago) from my Senior NCO
course for cadets... and, well... *she grins shyly and looks at her
feet*... I duxed it... 80 people, and I duxed :)

*grins some more and looks around shyly*

(notice also the unashamed requests for e-congratulations for doing so
great on her sergeant's course)

cu later!
*hugs* to all who want/need them..

Max
(Or Yvette, for people like Nic who don't like to call me Max anymore :) )


--
Yvette Lian
yal@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au 
FIDO: 3:640/352 
IRC nick: Maxine2
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