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From: "Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAI TECHNICAL" <AGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com>
Subject: Tape Grovelling of the Rich and Famous
Reply-To: AGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:51:00 GMT

Howdy!

It's been about 48 hours since I posted that I would record blanks for 
glides who had small or non-existent live tapes.  So far the response 
has been impressive: about 35 responses with 28 tape lists sent out.  
Most people were incredibly psyched that I was doing this, which is a 
little sad because I've seen individual tape grovels (ugly word, that) 
and responded to a couple, with limited success, but the general 
impression is that these folks don't really have .net sources to get 
them the music.  Sure, trees exist, but in the 9 months or so that I've 
been on the .net, I've seen maybe 5 trees - and not all of them Phish!  
The .net provides us information into the world of Phish and some of the 
encircling galaxies (HORDE, other music, taping/DAT, etc), but there 
doesn't seem to be a hard'n'fast way of getting the MUSIC out - and 
isn't that what Phish is all about?

So I have not refused anybody who has shown a real need (ie, no Phish, 
only have the CDs, only have one or two tapes, etc), and I am girding up 
to roll 150+ blanks in the next couple of weeks.  Most people are intent 
on copying what they receive and passing it along, which is the point; 
the "tree-amoeba" will probably be seeded with some of my tapes, which 
is the point; and Phish will spread even further, WHICH IS THE POINT.

Those of us fortunate to be close enough to the source, I feel, have an 
obligation to those further removed; it does me no good to hoard high-
quality tapes, because then only I can listen to them.  The band allows 
taping so that EVERYONE gets a chance to enjoy, and I thank them by 
rolling blanks for people I most likely will never see, let alone ever 
talk to in person.  A white box disappears into the maw of the US Postal 
Service and I feel pretty good about it; it's that simple.

As for a practical matter: is there any way to make getting tapes 
easier for those who are new to the scene, or for those whose 
collections need a boost?  Not trees, necessarily, but perhaps a 
"volunteer committee" of those HAVE's who can address the needs of the 
HAVE-NOT's?  Does anybody want to volunteer to provide taping services, 
or to manage the program?  Judging by the response I got, there is a 
silent contingent which watches the Phish.world through a soundproof 
window - let's get it open!

And one final flame (mostly directed at those grovelers whose accounts 
swallowed up my messages, never to be heard from again): If I send a 
response to you, particularly if I am offering something of mine, do me 
the common courtesy of responding, if nothing else than to say "I got 
your message; no thanks".  Don't leave me with the impression that you 
don't give a sh*t.  Because then _I_ won't give a sh*t about you, and 
that's hardly the world in which we want to live, is it?

Enough talking, time to knock off and get home to my tape decks...

Alek
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ijoseph@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Isaac Josephson)
Subject: Gershwin & Phish
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:01:12 GMT



	I was listening to "Run Like An Antelope" yesterday and noticed
strains of Rhapsody in Blue mixed in with one of the solos. It's not
long-maybe about six bars or so. Anyone else notice this?
From: eyethink@cse.ucsc.edu (Carl A. Wescott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Phish @ Cal-Expo (8/30)
Summary: longer set, perhaps?
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:27:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

Anybody know what the scoop is w/ Phish's set @ Sacramento's Cal-Expo
NeXT Sunday, Aug. 30th?  My hope is that since this show is 
different than the summer's usual open-up-for-Carlos routine, we'll get
a longer set than the now-standard 45-50 minutes.

Carl
From: v132hpne@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: 4/19/91 grovel
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  This show was my 21st birthday and Phish played in Buffalo at a small,
groovy club called Nietzche's.  Believe it or not I opted to go see a local
Dead cover band that night instead of checking out my first Phish gig :-(
I found out 5 months later when Phish returned to Buffalo just what a mistake
that was ;-)  Anyway, I'm looking specifically for soundboards of this show
or if not, good audiences.  I assume the boards are in circulation since I
have many other crispy ones from April 91.  Lots of other stuff to trade 
as well.  Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

Tony Brown
v132hpne@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Re: **CALL FOR COMMENTS** - Netiquette, the Net, and You
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.174117.28769@access.digex.com> jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>
>I fundamentally disagree that you should have to qualify
>everything you say with smileys.  No other written medium abuses punctuation
>so much, why do we have to on usenet?

See, the problem is... usenet is very interactive.... in all of our other
interactive means of communication, expression (be it facial or tonal) is
an important component.  Try to remember what it was like when you were a
new user, Jamie.  A lot of this stuff can be overwhelming.  I have come to  
think that the use of :-)'s is definitely in order when you post something
that would be damn rude if read for face value.  Ficticious insults are a
good example.  Just my $0.02

>-- Jamie
>-- 
>jamie@digex.com

-jg

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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: J Petersen <jp@darkstar.com>
Subject: This might be old news but...
Reply-To: jp@darkstar.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:57:44 GMT

Forgive me if this is really old news (I must admit I don't read  
EVERY digest). I was paging through an issue of High Times at the mag  
store today and they are offering a special deal where you get 'A  
Picture of Nectar' FREE when you subscribe. You may want to check it  
out.

---
=================================================================
                     Jim and Julie Petersen
                        jp@darkstar.com               (NeXT Mail)
=================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Aaron Frost <afrost@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Thoughts...
Reply-To: afrost@mailbox.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:52:06 GMT

	Just to fire off some thoughts before my system shuts down for
2 days :-(

	The campaign to help out the neophite glides with guppie size
tape collections is IMO a worthwile cause.  It also will be a tremendous project.  Perhaps those that will donate their time/tapes can be teamed
up with one or two recievers of the gift of music.  30 of us could help
sixty who would then be under moral obligation to turn their friends -
non Phans On to the scene.

	Any one know the bands position on manufacturing ones on 
clothing adorned with Phrases of Phish.  Not for profit but for at same
cost distribution.                                            ^ own

	Everyone have a blast this weekend with what ever you do.

Drew
From: AGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32,)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Multiple Ramblings
Date: 11 Aug 92 09:12:06 GMT
Reply-To: AGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com
Organization: The Internet
Old-Message-ID: <1992Aug11.091206.2212@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>

Hey-O -

First, am I going insane or did I get PD's 461, 459, and 460, in that 
order?

----------------------

For those of you on the Other Coast, Squaw Valley is about 110 miles 
from Cal Expo, up near Tahoe (Squaw is, that is).  Cal Expo is a fine 
place to see a show; the $25 ticket price (I got mine!) includes 
admission to the State Fair, which is pretty cool if you like seeing 
pigs the size of VW's...  Two drawbacks: parking, and the HEAT!  But the 
stadium is medium-sized, probably 18000 capacity, with a non-tarped 
grass field, and people are generally nice.

----------------------

'Liquid Squid'?  Whatever happened to 'Big Hair'?


Alek
From: whh@milton.u.washington.edu (William Hanot)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: looking for a tape from Evergreen
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:20:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Does anyone have a good quality tape from the Evergreen State College
show in Olympia, WA this year?  Sorry, but I can't remember the date.
It was my second show and was HOT HOT HOT!  I have very limited Phish
but lots of Dead and about 300 other live tapes of assorted other bands
to trade, from the Allman Bros to Frank Zappa.

Bill Hanot
bill@apl.washington.edu  or  whh@milton.u.washington.edu
From: 74230.2536@compuserve.com (Parker Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Phish on WXPN
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:27:32 GMT
Reply-To: 74230.2536@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet

Phish was on WXPN in Philadelphia a couple of days ago on the "World Cafe"
show which features alternative and new music.  Its actually the only radio
station that I know of in Philly that regularly plays Phish.  They advert-
ised it for a few ideas and billed Phish as the big part of the show so
I was looking forward to it with tape deck ready to roll.  They ended up
playing Chalkdust and Stash off of PON.  They had them in the studio too
(taped after Mann Music show I assume) for about a five minute interview and
a live Sweet Adeline.  Amazingly, the Adeline sounded good and was in tune!
They were talking about what made a Phish show so damn good and why people
went to see them.  Trey answered with what Carlos Santana had told him.
Carlos said that we (listeners) are the flowers, the music is the water, 
and that the band is the hose.  So is he saying that we are getting hosed
at a good show?  (ha, ha)  Sounds like something that Carlos would say but
it really does make a lot of sense.  Carlos told this to Trey after watching
the crowd at a show.  Anyways, the interviewer went on to ask which cut 
from the album he should play that came out the best.  Trey says, 
"defintely Stash".  Then there's a pause and Fish declares that "Faht" 
should be played and everyone cracks up.  Trey now says he thinks 
Catapult is the right choice, "definitely Catapult".  The interviewer says
"I think we'll stick with Stash, thanks."  Hey, it was short but any
Phish on the radio I enjoy and it'll make a great 10 minute filler on
lots of tapes.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Dasht.Roch817@xerox.com
Subject: Looking for HORDE tapes
Reply-To: Dasht.Roch817@xerox.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:58:25 GMT

Hey now,
 I am looking for tapes of the HORDE tour.  If anyone can help me out that
would be grate.  I have some tapes to trade or can send blanks.  Thanks in
advance.
David Ashton
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Dave Goldhammer, CNS BugBusters 2-5808" <goldhamm@spot.colorado.edu>
Subject: Santana/Phish August 24 in Vail, Colorado
Reply-To: goldhamm@spot.colorado.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:57:15 GMT


Hi everyone! Does anyone here in Colorado have any extra tickets to the Vail
Santana/Phish show on the 24th???

Please let me know via e-mail if so! 

	THANKS!!!
	From the land of the big baboon,

		-Dave


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Sasha McCarthy Clapper <sclapper@reed.edu>
Subject: Roll like a canteloupe
Reply-To: sclapper@reed.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:38:21 GMT

 In response to an earlier question on this,  Canteloupe was also  
played in chapel hill, NC 

on 11-14-91, and for the next obvious question, yes, i do have it on  
tape.  but, alas, my copy is not soundboard either, it's audience,  
but still palatable...


how did you know       				    sasha
that we were all made out of stone?	  	    sclapper@reed.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
Subject: Blues Traveler 10/1/91 Info needed
Reply-To: MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:36:09 GMT


Hi, I don't know if there is a Blues Traveler mailing list or not, but I
was hoping somebody out there might be able to help me out.  Somebody sent
me the 10/1/91 Blues Traveler show from Arcotu CA?  Does anybody have a
setlist, venue, etc.  So I could properly label my tapes?  Thanks...

Joe Doheny
From: bluefox@well.sf.ca.us (Harry McQuillen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Capitol
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:06:08 GMT
Reply-To: bluefox@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Internet

I've heard rumors of several Phish shows at Thanksgiving time at the
Capitol Theater in Portchester this fall? Any backup to these rumors?
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Re: Merchandise answer
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:08:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.211025.21399@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com writes:
>beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh) writes:
>
>|new sticker? anyone know what it looks like?
>
>well, besides the original phish logo sticker (green, and recently gold),
>there is the picture of nectar sticker which was given out for free in the 
>spring; i wonder if this i what's being referred to
>

Bzzzt!  Sorry Rich.... wrong answer!  Here's a little sticker history lesson
for y'all.  Once upon a time there was a yellow Phish sticker.  It was really
cool, and only the old-timers had 'em.  Then there was green (oooooh ahhhhhh),
and they stopped making the yellow ones.  Then, one day, there were more
yellow ones (Hooraaaayyyyy!), but some people were sad because now everyone
would have the nifty yellow ones that once belonged to just a small bunch.
Now the yellow and green stickers live in peaceful harmony.  Joy!

Fumf Fumf Fumf Fumf Fumf... what's that I hear?  A new sticker marching onto
the horizon.  What could it be!???

Stay tuned for the next episode of "sticker-mania"!

-jg

P.S.  Yes... I'm bored :-)


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From: press@cns.caltech.edu (William Press)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Cantelope
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:20:37 GMT
Reply-To: press@cns.caltech.edu
Organization: The Internet


Jamie's call for Canteloupe,

has 45 minutes with Cantelope on it... anybody got any other bits and
pieces, we can rebuild it... better... stronger... faster... (although I
haven't seen my chunk for a while... could be in never never land).
But my tape was made from a great soundboard, so it does exist!! This show
can be found! Anyone out there want to 'fess up?

                --- end quote ---

shall not go unanswered! In fact, I've got a solid B+ SB Roll Like a
Canteloupe, with an oh-so-tasty Timber as well, from 7-12-88 at Sam's
Tavern. Unfortunately, I'm, at the moment, dubless *and* in the middle
of moving. But when I get myself reestablished, I'll be open for the
trading fever...

	Bill
From: AGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com (Alek Grabinski, SC1-32,)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Reverse Tape Grovel
Date: 11 Aug 92 09:04:46 GMT
Reply-To: AGRABINSKI@libra.intel.com
Organization: The Internet
Old-Message-ID: <1992Aug11.090446.1426@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>

Hello Glides!

I have not seen this posted before on the .net (probably because it's 
suicidal), but here goes:

I have lots of very high quality Phish and would like to tape blanks for 
people with small or no collections.  There have been a lot of recent 
postings requesting someone to seed a "tree-amoeba" and I am willing to 
do this, as well as to help out those without any trading muscle.  The 
reason I do this is because the band allows taping so that high quality 
live music gets out there, and I have come across enough badly done 
taping to want to eradicate it by sheer volume!

The deal is simple: interested pholk can email me for my tape list.  All 
I require is $3 for postage (blanks supplied by the user, of course).  I 
can make recommendations if you don't know where to begin, and  all I 
expect is that you do your best to continue disseminating the music using 
properly appreciative recording technique.

Personal to whoever wanted Stanford: I have it. I have the Warfield too.

In exchange for this irrational act of kindness, I would like to ask the 
.net community about two or three things:

1. Whatever happened to the YEM vocal solo tape?
2. Where can I get really old Phish?  I HAVE to hear Prep School Hippy!
   Will trade kindness with kindness.


Phish on!

Alek
From: fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Rich Fromm - 'Whatever y)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Lawn Boy vs. Lawn Boy
Date: 11 Aug 92 19:34:57 GMT
Reply-To: fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Old-Message-ID: <1992Aug11.193457.16765@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>

jeff, any doubts i ever had are now cast aside; you are the ultimate geek

seriously, from reading your posting i can't decide if you are claiming that fee 
is or is not on the disc

you say:

|I stand up and say that Fee IS on the new disc

yet you say:

|So that and the other minor discrepencies
|in times (and in my ability or lack thereof to measure anything), can easily
|lead one to the conclusion that no Fee is definately NOT on the new disc.

so, quit being wishy washy; what is your conclusion?

get a clue, finish your thesis, and get your butt to boston (keeping in mind 
that the shortest distance between ithaca and boston most certainly passes thru 
philly) to buy me a beer for my birthday :^)

- rich

opc: whine, whimper, whine, why didn't trey play w/ carlos @ grate woods?
From: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: San Juan Capistrano 8/17/92
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:56:40 GMT
Reply-To: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Organization: The Internet

The Coach House.  San Juan Capistrano, CA
This setlist leaks like a sieve.  This is from what's
left of my mind(smoking crater)this fine Tuesday morning.;-)
I:Poor Heart/The Land Lady/Reba/All Things Reconsidered/
Knife/Foam/Cavern
II:Suzy Greenberg/David Bowie/Over the Rainbow/Ester
Enc:Squirming Coil

I brought an old friend who's never seen Phish before to
the show.  Upon reflection in the car on the fwy, we agreed
that there's parts of the jams that sound like complete
chaos and the players seem to knit some fine jamming in and
out of it.  Excellent guitar sounds from that custom hollow
body lead guitar.  That 6-string bass is incredible too.
Part of a matching set no doubt.  I was sitting in front of
the piano in the front row.  Excellent.

My friend, he's got a knife.  My friend, he's got a knife.
My f,         eehhh.

The old black muu muu that Fishman is still wearing is
lookin pretty tattered since the first time I ever heard
Phish at the Variety Arts Theater in LA, March '92.
There's a duct tape patch now across the midsection and 
the arm holes are bigger.
You can fix anything with duct tape and vice grips ;-) 

During the electrolux solo, the reverb in the lower
register made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
I can't figure how they get the vacuum to run so quietly, 
my old electrolux was noisy.  Towards the end I could 
smell melting plastic. Fishman done tortured the damn thing. 
A Ninja Custodian kissed Jon's ass.  Yecccchh.
This stuff makes the old Ripley's Believe It Or Not book
look like a seed catalog.

The Piano popped a string and the crew hurried to remove
the remains from within the instrument.  This brought on
some noodling on the organ which led into a fine Ester.

At the end of the encore, they just left the keyboard 
player out on stage to jam.  I thought it would never stop.
"It got away.........yea.  It got away."


Please, would someone send me a copy of the setlist.
I also very humbly grovel to also be added to any tree that
       ------------------
might sprout up, there was a taper at the show, but he had
swarms of people around him and didn't want to add to the
frenzy.  He had his phish.net tee on.

I don't normally get this newsfeed so e-mail me directly 
please at            stafford@hycad5.dnet.hac.com

Thank you, Jack.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: friedman@col.hp.com (John Friedman)
Subject: Re: **CALL FOR COMMENTS** - Netiquette, the Net, and You
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 15:41:07 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

dfl@aeolus.think.com (David Lively) writes:
> While you're right that it's important to remember only your words
> represent what you're saying, I agree strongly with Jamie that smileys can
> be as annoying as a laugh track.  It's not that hard to communicate
> sarcasm, humor, etc. via words only.  Sometimes, it's appropriate to use
> smileys in the same way you'd use a joking tone when pretending to insult
> someone, but sometimes your words alone communicate the right "tone", and
> adding smileys insults the intelligence of your readers (and can ruin a
> good joke).

Smileys have become an addition to my pallette of usenet communications
skills.  They represent a very unique form of language - sort of the
"picture is worth a thousand words" idea.  I've never had a problem with
the over use of smileys.  They really help me to understand where their
author is coming from, in a VERY abbreviated fasion.  Why should someone
try to create a bunch of words to descibe what they are trying to say when
a smiley sums it up precisely?

It's inflection and expression made easy, plain and simple.

:-)

;-)

8-)

=8-D


> And to think whoever started this thread didn't want to start a
> meta-discussion ...

;-)


John Friedman
friedman@col.hp.com
From: jeff@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: what is phish
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:40:28 GMT
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook

In article <1992Aug5.092228.28511@nuscc.nus.sg>, eng20015@nusunix3.nus.sg (GOH K
>ING SHY) writes:
>
>       Can anyone tell me what kind of music does Phish plays?
>    I am very surprise to find one whole newsgroup dedicated to them.
>    Thanx.
>

   This reminds me of a story :^)

   I was in L.A. to see another band that sounds nothing like Phish
   at the Cal State Dominguez Hills soccer field on the Cinco de Mayo
   weekend of 1990. The shows were afternoon shows (2pm), and after the
   Sunday show, my party decided to head into LA to get some food. 
   After much deliberating, the suggestion came up to head into some
   area called "Korea Town" (??) for Korean food. People were all 
   psyched up about eating stuff called "Kim chi" (spelling???) and other
   names I'd never heard of. I asked a very kind friend what Kim chi
   was and she replied,

    "It's the best food on earth"

   This was enough to make me try it. The rest is history.

   In summing up the moral seems a little bit obscure,
   Jeff A.
-- 
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Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu