HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: PPI Modem IS REALLLLLLLY BAD!!!...NOT
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:37:06 GMT
Organization: Helen Keller Bondurant's Performance Driving School for the Blind

In article <1993Jan1.034500.27837@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Martin) writes:
>><I wrote>:
>>HOWEVER, there is a *charge* for warranty repairs -- I think it was $25 for
>>the pocket modem, which is 25% of what I paid for it.  The "lifetime warranty"
>>claim should be taken with a grain of salt...
>
>The only *charge* for warranty repairs on a PM14400FX (or FXSA) is $12 or
>$15 (I can't recall which it is) to cover handling and return postage,
>which is not unreasonable IMHO.  Parts and labor are covered under the
>warranty - they are FREE.  Be careful before you generalize over all PPI
>modems which have a lifetime warranty...

First of all, when I called support, they TOLD me the charge had gone up to
$25 -- only after compalining that my doc stated only $15 that they gave me
the $15 price.  The PPI Support rep told me that the current cost is $25.
$25 for a modem that lists for $100 and costs about $2 to ship (less than
a pound) is NOT trivial.

To me, a "lifetime warranty" means that the product should be covered
for failure with no significant out-of-pocket costs.

Secondly, I didn't "generalize" this to any other products of theirs.  
The support rep I dealt with wouldn't quote me the other repair prices and
didn't indicate that the $15/$25 was the same across the product line.

> John E. Martin    jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu     University of Puget Sound '92
>    Kent, WA      (formerly martin@ups.edu)    SeinfeldBC++RushBelaFleckDWeckl

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Hayes lawyers intimidate competition (was: Hayes Press Re 
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 01:12:26 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1993Jan3.005420.11231@netcom.com> marquis@netcom.com writes:

   Toby, I can see that you are good at marketing, and an asset to your 
   employer, but can you name one thing Hayes has done in the last 5 years 
   to advance modem technology?

There you went and did it, Roger.  You got Toby so pissed off that he's
quitting Hayes to go work for Microsoft!

:)

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: rob@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert J Barth)
Subject: v26bis (honestly)
Reply-To: rob@sound.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $
Organization: Sound & Vision BBS (UK) 0932 252323
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:12:49 +0000

I have a friend who has a V26bis modem.
Apparently it is bisynchronous, and 2400 bps.
(He uses it to connect, I think, some IBM/36 machines)

Does this make sense ?
I've never heard of v26bis, let alone bisynchronous !
If you have any information on the following he/I would be grateful :
  - What is bisynchronous ?
  - What is v26bis ?
  - Are there other CCITTs I haven't heard of ?
  - Is there bisynchronous 9600/14400 standard, and would this work ?

thanks
-rob-

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward)
Subject: Zyxel calling TB WB Problem
Summary: low speed on receive
Reply-To: anton@lethe.gts.org
Organization: ASCI: UNIX Database and Communications
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:07:52 GMT

I have a problem with a Zyxel 1496-E calling a Telebit WorldBlazer.

The call is made from the Zyxel in v.32bis with either no compression or
v.42bis to a Telebit WorldBlazer.

Transmit is fine.  Transfer rates are just under 1400 cps for compressed
news batches of sizes in excess of 100K.

However once the line turns round speed drops.  Transfer rates are 
typically 750 cps.  

It doesn't matter which end intiates the call.

Any ideas or suggestions ?
--
Anton J Aylward	
	"The body politic is swerving from left to right and right to
	 left looking for quick fixes for systemic problems."
	   - Paul Palango, Journalist, ex The Globe and Mail
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz)
Subject: Re: USA modems in Europe
Keywords: phone systems standards international
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:09:52 GMT

In article <kyw1wB2w165w@questor.org> sp@questor.org (Steve Pershing) writes:
>
>|> Anyone got any experiences with using USR modems (or any other 14.4K beasts)
>|> built and bred for the States over in Europe?  (Specifically Holland/Britain)
>
>Well, we have sold ZyXEL modems to people all over eastern and western Europe.
>No one has had any complaints.
>
>In fact, a Swiss client thinks that these are the best beasties for the money
>that he has ever used.   :-)
>
the most popular modems here are usr. zyxel is becoming popular. also lots of
telebits. the biggest problem is filtering the tone used for taxing the calls.



cu
-pete



-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jmccorm@a.cs.okstate.edu (MCCORMICK JOSHUA C)
Subject: Re: PPI modems...
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:20:03 GMT

From article <81@consult.UUCP>, by bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey):
> In article <gDq0VB1w164w@admiral.uucp> spyder@admiral.uucp (Eric) writes:
>>Does any sysop out there actually have a PPI modem that works as well
>>as your old 2400?...problem-free?...This is my second PPI 14.4FXSA
> 
> Well, I am not sure what kind of problems you are having, but we have
> been using a PM14400FXSA for some time now on our BBS and have had
> NO PROBLEMS!!!  Big ZERO....
> 

I have had the PPI 14.4FXSA for quite some time now. The old ROM's did
have a problem with 2400 connects. If the guy makes sure he has the
newest version, he can usually rule out the modem itself as a cause.
I have found that 99% of the time, the source of the trouble is the
owner setting something up incorrectly.
From: alvin@arapaho.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intel 400/e in non-DOS environment <was: MNP5 software+CAS Spec>
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:32:29 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <94@nearside.UUCP>, shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake) writes:
|> 	Let me extend and generalize the question: Putting aside the bundled
|> 	communication and fax software associated with the 400/external, is
|> 	there any reason this modem couldn't be used to support *fax*
|> 	functionality outside of the DOS environment? If one had, say,
|> 	appropriate fax software for a Macintosh, or Sun, or Next, could
|> 	this modem work as a fax modem? Or is it doomed to live within
|> 	the DOS ghetto? Has anyone done it? Tried, without success, to get
|> 	the straight scoop earlier from Intel, so I pose the question here.
|> 
|> uunet!media!irscscm!nearside!shwake			shwake@rsxtech

  Yes, given the appropriate software, you can use the 400e on any other
machine. I use my 400e on my NeXT as a data modem all the time. You will;
however, find it difficult to acquire a Class 1 fax driver for most UNIX
and UNIX-like machines. The 400e is a Class 1 fax modem which means the
computer must do all the fax protocol stuff itself and the modem just sends
the data down the phone lines. There's a lot of tricky timing in the Class 1
spec that is tough to handle on most UNIX systems, so there aren't many
Class 1 drivers around for UNIX. If you can get a Class 1 driver for your
machine, the 400e "should" work. Be warned that any given Class 1 driver may
not work with all Class 1 fax modems. You just have to try it...

Hope that helps.

Alvin Jee
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jhood@smoke.marlboro.vt.us (Lord Yertle)
Subject: Re: WB Fax Upgrade
Organization: Pick a banana, any banana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:29:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.160347.12669@ups.com> kevinc@ups.com (Kevin C.
Castner) writes:

>As a matter of fact, when I received my WB, I got a T3000 manual with a
>WB addendum.

And I hope that Telebit sends a single, complete manual with the fax
upgrade.  Things are bad enough already with the current two manual
situation.

It's not so bad when the addendum is just about new, additional
features (I have another modem with one like this), but it's quite
annoying when it covers changes to the modem as well.  Neither the
T3000 manual nor the addendum can be relied on by itself; you always
have to check the other one to see what's Different.

  --jh
-- 
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From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Hayes lawyers intimidate competition (was: Hayes Press Release)
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:53:49 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <C0A7wy.Gyn@gator.use.com>, larry@gator.use.com (Larry
Snyder) writes: 

> heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser) writes:
> ...
>>seen that does FAX at 14.4K (although of course this is of little use
>>if other FAXes don't do the same :-).
> 
> Yes, little use at 14.4 except when talking to another Hayes 14.4

Larry's comment makes it sound as though Hayes is using some sort of 
proprietary modulation at 14,400 bit/s.  I want to make it clear 
that this is not true.  Group 3 fax specifies use of V.17 and V.33 
international standard modulation at 12,000 and 14,400 bit/s, and 
these are supported in the Hayes fax modems. The same is true of all 
of the 14,400 bit/s fax modems on the market today.  The problem is 
that most of the fax MACHINES in use today -- millions of them -- 
still support only 9,600 bit/s V.29 modulation as their top speed. 
You can be confident, though, that the 14,400 bit/s fax modem you 
buy today will, eventually, be able to be used above 9,600 bit/s for 
sending and receiving faxes, as the installed base of equipment is 
upgraded to include the newer standards.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: USR modems..
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:21:32 GMT

geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writes:

>   Really?  I have a 14.4 HST Dual Standard with V.32bis, firmware version 
>1443.  Know of any upgrades? <grin>

Call them (from the US) at 1-800-DIAL-USR.  I don't know if that number
is valid from Canada or not --

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bh@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Bill Hallman)
Subject: Rockwell daughter board
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:52:58 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick)
Subject: Re: Hayes lawyers intimidate competition (was: Hayes Press Release)
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:04:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.005420.11231@netcom.com> marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis) writes:
>Toby, I can see that you are good at marketing, and an asset to your 
>employer, but can you name one thing Hayes has done in the last 5 years 
>to advance modem technology?

Actually I can think of one incredibly important thing.  Hayes was responsible
for v.42bis being able to automatically detect and handle uncompressible
data.  That's certainly a something advancing modem technology.

Bill
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From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re:   Hayes lawyers intimidate competition (was: Hayes Press Release)
Distribution: world
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:58:41 EST
Organization: The Legend BBS Public Access (216)825-2747

In article <105986@bu.edu> heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser) writes:
>OK.  Apparently they want to keep it a secret, because I've spent quite
>a bit of time poring over specs listed on packaging, deciding between
>the different units before buying for myself ... and the Hayes was the ony
>one I saw that listed 14.4K FAX.  But of course I've not covered every unit
>out there.

I should have been more clear.  Appologies.  I can't imagine that
any v.32bis modem also supporting FAX would not support v.17.  If the
modem is one of those v.32/FAX modems then likely it would only do
9600 FAX.  The same is true for the 2400 BPS modems supporting FAX.

>
>RE: "who would send a fax to a data modem" ... why would anyone care?
>You give out a FAX number - who is to know whether it's a real fax machine
>or a modem that answers?

True - but I was unclear again.  This was a reference to the fact that
so far we haven't seen anything but FAXModems that support V.17.  This
being the case, all you have is a bunch of MODEMS to FAX to.  You could just
call the person's BBS..  Of course I suppose some will run FAX only systems
And I find in the long run that sending a quick FAX is faster then logging
onto a BBS..  Anyway that was the idea behind my comment.  Happy New Year
to all.
--
Mark E Daniel (Keeper of legend) Data/Fax (v.32bis/G3) +1 (216) 825-2747
Internet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us   UUCP: Yes, why? "I know someday you'll have 
a beautiful life/I know You'll be the sun in somebody else's sky..." - Pearl Jam
From: root@kilowatt.uucp (Kilowatt admin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: WB Fax upgrade Re: WB FAX FLAME
Date: 7 Jan 93 06:22:09 GMT
Organization: Kilowatt Computing

I'm an owner of a Telebit WorldBlazer, along with a friend of mine, and we've
never had any problems with Telebit support or their products. We recommend
them to business associates, and use them in our installations.

Remember folks... READ the advertisement, and ask questions that are
important before BUYING. Ask the person on the other side of the phone
whether or not the product comes with the software you're hoping it does!
If it doesn't COME with the software, find out HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT,
so you don't have to BITCH about how much it costs after you've already spent
your money ...

This idea applies to a lot of complaints I've heard about the WorldBlazer
FAX upgrade. Sorry, just had to get that off my chest...

But the main reason for this is... I've found a few interesting things about
the 7.01 ROM upgrades for the WorldBlazer (and I would imaging these ROMs are
the same as the T3000).

1) There are no new &R values. They've been there since the 5.00w ROMs I had
previously, and they're listed in the WorldBlazer Addendum I got when I
upgraded from the T3000 to the WorldBlazer.

2) There are new registers at 113 114 and 115. Use ~H for a HELP listing. Nice
feature. One of these registers enables calling tones. These are the tones
that FAX machines emit when dialing up to another FAX machine. These are
also the tones that FAX "switches" use to shunt a call to a FAX machine
instead of ringing the phone. This works without the FAX upgrade, I have
a vanilla WorldBlazer.

3) Lot's of things have been fixed since the last revision I had (5.00w). It
seems I get a lot less retrains, and hung UUCP sessions.

Notice I don't have the FAX upgrade in my WorldBlazer. I already have a Zoom
V.32bis FAX modem (albeit buggy)... I will eventually get the FAX upgrade,
but not before I get netfax to compile under SVR4!!!

And another thing... These addendums are actually quite handy. If I need
to look at PEP type stuff, I know to look in the WorldBlazer Addendum. If
I need to look at the type of stuff available on other modems (V.32bis, etc.)
I know to look in the original manual. It is a little awkward, but since I
got the upgrade from the T3000 to the WorldBlazer for nothing, I'm not
going to complain. 

Too bad you never hear from satisfied customers here on the net until they
get fed up with the complainers... I've even had GOOD luck with a Zoom modem!!
Imagine hearing about that on this newsgroup!!!

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From: sp@questor.org (Steve Pershing)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Zyxel types (was Re: ZyXEL as answering machine ? (PC-Software))
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 12:49:47 PST
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670

banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:

|> 
|> jeroenp@rulfc1.LeidenUniv.nl (Jeroen W. Pluimers) writes:
|> >BTW: What are the pro's and contra's of the 4 different modem types?
|> >If my memory serves me right, ther are E, E+, S and S+ types.
|> >I'd like a good recommendation on which to buy (and where to buy
|> >it in The Netherlands or Germany).
|> 
|> E model is std 14.4 fax modem
|> S adds a nifty LCD front panel display and some more status indicators
|> 
|> X+ models add a faster processor for better compression of voicemail.

Actually, the S+ model also has a nifty backlit LCD display which glows
light green.

There are also rack-mount modems (1496R), which mount in a 16-modem rack.
The rack works on 110/220 mains voltages.

Where to buy them?  Try Questor (thats us!).

For prices, send e-mail to:    mail-server@questor.org

and in the first lines of the body of your text, include one or more of
the following:

help
dir
get /pub/prodinfo/wldcost.txt
get /pub/prodinfo/usacost.txt
get /pub/prodinfo/cdncost.txt
end


The *.txt files are:  World prices; USA prices; Canadian prices,
respectively.

If you do not have spec sheets, you will see them listed when you get
the DIR listing.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: rkimball@athena.qualcomm.com (Robert Kimball)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL voice and flow control
Keywords: ZyXEL voice flow control
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:27:23 GMT

rodney@tyrell.tynet.sub.org (Rodney Volz) writes:

>In article <rkimball.725840444@athena> rkimball@athena.qualcomm.com (Robert Kimball) writes:
>>I have been playing around with voice mail and my ZyXEL and ran into
>>a problem.  It does not appear that flow control works in voice mode.
>>I have set the modem to hardware flow control with the at&h3 command
>>and get everything set to send voice data to the modem.

>ZyXEL modems use XON/XOFF in voice mode. I'd appreciate to
>see a new ROM revision supporting

>1.) Proper RTS/CTS flowcontrol in voice mode
>2.) Reliable DTMF recognition
>3.) Reliable at&d3 mode (*really* hangup on DTR->low)
>4.) Adjustable volume gain in voice mode

>Zyxel rep's; where are you?

One more thing I would add to the list, this one really annoys me...

5.) Recognize and report DTMF while transmitting voice.  This is really needed
    for proper voice mail so that while playing your greeting the call can
    enter DTMFs to get to a mailbox, without having to listen to the entire
    greeting.

How can we report this to the ZyXEL engineers?

-- 
rkimball@qualcomm.com
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: V.42bis/LAP-M questions
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:53:55 GMT

povlphp@uts.uni-c.dk (Povl H. Pedersen) writes:

>How come that I sometimes have to get retries from Z-modem when
>using a modem with MNP-5 or V.42bis/LAP-M ? Both include error
>correction, and I thought that would ensure that all packages
>would be transfered as sent. I also thought that the RE or TE
>messages I see on very noisy lines on my Supra V.32bis would
>mean that the modems resent the packages.

As far as I know Z-modem errors are telling you that something is
amiss between the modem and your PC. I won't try and guess what's
happening with your setup but there was one person here who was
having the same problem and it turned out to be the UART not being
able to handle the speed (which you didn't specify).  It could be
the software+CPU not being able to handle the data or perhaps the
cable. 

>So, is error correction in modems good ? Or is it something
>that helps a little on quality ?

Depends what you mean by 'good'. Under plain ASCII transfers error
correction will eliminate the rubbish but IMO when you get up
against the wall sometimes it's better to accept a little rubbish
and get the data instead of having the modems sit there resending
and resending or giving up and dropping the link entirely. 

Dave

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From: KARYPM@SJUVM.BITNET ("Paul M. Karagianis")
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: BocaModem versions.
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:03:27 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Having recently moved from a 1200 baud/dumb terminal combination to
a BOCA 14.4 internal in a PC, the recent discussion of the latest
ROM version has me a bit confused.  The modem was purchased in mid
December '92 and the manual has a publication date of August '92.
Page 10 has a picture of a rectangular card, and the manual has a
photo-copy of a replacement for this page with a "new" square card,
so I would assume the version would be pretty recent.  The following
are the various responses I've gleaned from the beast:

ati0 = 249
ati1 = 007
ati2 = OK
ati3 = V0.340
ati4 = RC32ACL
ati5 = 022
ati6 = 144DPL+FAX

at+fmfr? = ROCKWELL
at+fmdl? = RC32ACL
at+frev? = V0.340

I'm (obviously) a novice, but it might be reassuring to the paranoid
to hear some confirmation that the discussions in this list as to
version numbers refer to the older cards.  I hope.  -Kary.