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From: kos@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (andrew.r.kostic)
Subject: ORACLE programmer/analyst - Northern NJ
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:34:35 GMT


Programmer/analyst to design and develop a large personnel
benefits database system.  Initial analysis and design using
Oracle CASE tool.  Client-server environment running on DOS-
based PC workstations under MS Windows.  System built with
Powerbuilder frontend on a Novell LAN running against Oracle
on a database server.  Northern New Jersey location.

Please respond directly by phone or fax to:

The KOHL Group, Inc.
Phone: (201)984-2214
Fax:   (201)984-2218
Organization: Scientific Placement, Inc.
X-Charset: MACINTOSH
From: ARS@spiScientific (Ariel Strichartz)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:47:55 CST    
Subject: Mac to VAX connectivity con 
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Distribution: na

Job Title & Location
        Mac to VAX connectivity contract  - SF 
Immediate need by San Francisco financial firm for a software engineer to
complete the bridge between Macintoshes and VAXes.  Ethernet based network. 
Very competitive rates for quick start individual!!

Direct responses to:
Dan Redwine
SP Services, Box 19949, Houston, TX  77224
713-496-6100  713-496-6802 (fax)
DAR@Scientific.com -or- D1580@APPLELINK.APPLE.COM
Applelink:  D1580

Resume Formats: We prefer plain ascii text via email. This is for
convenience
since we copy and paste the resume into a database field for retrieval
purposes.  Postscript or troff is a nuisance.

Hard copy by mail is OK because we can OCR scan and convert to ascii (large
sans serif fonts work best). Fax is  worst because it always must be
retyped.
Any Macintosh or PC Word Processor format via EMail or on a 3.5 inch
diskette
is OK.


Immigration status: We are never able to assist individuals holding F-1 or
H-1 visas. Without exception, you must be a U.S. or Canadian Citizen or have
a Permanent Residence Visa.

New graduates: Employers utilize the college placement offices to hire new
graduates. They do not employ recruiting firms for this purpose. We are
unable to assist recent graduates.

Ariel Strichartz
Scientific Placement, Inc., Box 19949, Houston, TX 77224
713-496-6100   713-496-6802 (fax)
ARS@Scientific.com -or- D1580@APPLELINK.APPLE.COM
Applelink: D1580
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jmalis@world.std.com (Judee Malis)
Subject: SAS, Easytrieve; Boston; broker
Summary: SAS, Easytrieve; Boston; broker
Keywords: SAS
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:55:33 GMT

Contract available for SAS and Easytrieve experienced consultant.
For more info, please call Judee Malis at Prosoft Consulting:
617-489-3055.

Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:2611 tx.jobs:277
From: alan@unisql.UUCP (Alan Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,tx.jobs
Subject: OS/2 PM to SunOS X-window/Motif Contract-Dallas, TX - AGENCY
Keywords: SunOS Motif OS/2 Presentation Manager Contract High Rate Dallas TX
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:55:32 GMT
Reply-To: /dev/null
Followup-To: misc.jobs.contract
Distribution: na
Organization: XXCAL, Inc.

(This is being posted for a friend ... please do NOT respond to me. )
(No resumes will be forwarded.  Please respond directly to her.     )

Position:	Long-term contract (6-12 months)
Location:	Dallas, TX
Job Spec:	Conversion of OS/2 Presentation Manager application to
		SunOS X-window system environment using OSF/Motif
Environment:	Professional
Overtime:	unknown.  Minimum 40 hours per week
Rate:		$45-$50 per hour - negotiable
Skills Req:	Complete fluency in "C", detailed knowledge of X-window
		system running on SunOS.  Knowledge of OSF/Motif, Motif
		widget set, Xt intrinsics.  Knowledge of OS/2 Presentation
		Manager programming.  Must be professional, have high
		standards, and be able to get the job done.  Sorry, this
		is definately *not* an entry-level position.  This is
		a position that will also require the ability to manage
		your time in a productive manner.

If qualified and seriously interested, please call:

XXCAL, Inc.
Att:  Crystal McKinnis-Kindred
Phone: 512-343-8433
Fax  : 512-343-1058 (for resumes)

(Sorry, XXCAL's internet connection is not ready yet).
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,ne.jobs
From: shapiro@trade.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro)
Subject: Re: C++ Instructors/Contract in Boston area(recruiter)
Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: 28 JUL 92 02:00:20 EST


In article <Bs1zFK.BDH@world.std.com>, seek@world.std.com (David A Reilly)
writes...

>SEEK is a professional services firm located in Wakefield,Ma. and due to
>our exclusive arrangement with our clients we are assisting them in searches
>for experienced Instructors.  The classes will be attended by software
>engineers therefore indepth knowledge of the languages "C" and C++ is
>mandatory.  Several years of programming experience as a development
>engineer (not just in college) or a track record of teaching these level
>courses is very important.  

I do believe that I meet (and exceed) your qualifications. If you are
interested, I could forward you a copy of my resume. You may reply directly to
this message or, alternatively, to my BBS address listed below.

Regards,
Steve.

/*********************************************************************
*                               *                                    *
* Steve Shapiro                 * All views and opinions expressed   *
* SKS Computer Consulting, Inc. * are my own and do not neccessarily *
* Specializing in:              * reflect those of my clients,       *
* DEC/VAX/VMS/ULTRIX, Unix & PC * employers or employees             *
*                               *                                    *
**********************************************************************
* Steve.Shapiro@f440.n101.z1.fidonet.org                             *
* FidoNet 1:101/440 (508) 664-6354                                   *
* The Contract Professional BBS, North Reading, MA                   *
*********************************************************************/
From: todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: skills worksheet
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:19:41 GMT
Organization: Software Toolz, Inc.

victor@mephisto.tcs.com (Victor Elkind) writes:
>I am curious if anyone out there who contracts through a jobshop
>ever got work through an agency that asked you to fill out a skills
>worksheet?
>I feel that a resume should be sufficient for an agent worth his pay
>to match a prospective job with an applicant.

It is.  But, they are too lazy to reformat your resume into 
a format that makes it easy to catagorize you with their other
consultants.

Even worse are those skills worksheets from the 1960's that have
nothing other than mainframe garbage on them.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *********************
* Todd Merriman - Software Toolz, Inc. +1 706 889 8264  * Maintainer of the *
* 8030 Pooles Mill Dr., Ball Ground, GA 30107-9610      * Software          *
* UUCP: ...!emory!slammer!toolz!todd                    * Entrepreneur's    *
* Internet:  todd%toolz.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu           * Mailing List      *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *********************

God is real unless declared integer.
From: mwr@tridom.uucp (Mark Reardon)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Salary ranges wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:46:46 GMT
Reply-To: mwr@tridom.uucp (Mark Reardon)
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

In article <154a2tINNdoh@cs.utexas.edu>, wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
|> One clarification, my friend is dealing directly with the company that
|> he plans to work for.  He is not dealing with a contract house.

This is an indication that the company thinks the rate is too high.
Your friend is in the position of making the next move and about the
only bad one is not responding in any way.  Even the statement, "That's
what I charge and I won't do it for less.", is better than nothing.
Obviously, your friend thought up his rate in some fashion and it is
really not important to the company how.  What they want is to see if
they can lower it.  Another suggestion might be to post pone the money
talk until they've decided on him.  Then it is usually easier to talk
rates because they know better what he can do for their company.

|> 
|> Rick
|> 
|> P.S. Is this the difference between contracting and consulting?
|>      I thought the terms were interchangable.

I use them to mean the following:

Contractor - hired to do a job,
Consultant - payed to be someone to talk to.

The consultant is usually a person that helps with their knowledge and
experience but someone else may actually do the work.  Commonly, 
consultants end up with the contract but not always.  An example may
help.

In my previous company we hired a token ring consultant when we wanted
to design a source routing bridge.  He did not implement the product,
but instead gave a class on SR and SRB, wrote a product functional
specification for marketing, and double checked our engineering design.
He then also was available to answer questions when we got in over
our heads.  If a coder had been hired to help implement the bridge,
that coder would have been a contracter.

-- 
Mark

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| mwr@eng.tridom.com     |  840 Franklin Court                      |
|                        |  Marietta, GA 30067                      |
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: mikedean@well.sf.ca.us (Mike Merrill)
Subject: Editor/Writer avail.:  Health care, etc.
Summary: Editor/Writer avail.:  Health Care, etc.
Keywords: health biz editing writing
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:55:52 GMT



     Editing and writing is offered on a consulting basis by an ex-newspaper
reporter with a background in health care.  Other experience with graduate
student dissertations and academic papers in the social sciences and business.
In addition, I have a respectable understanding of the scientific and medical
paradigms (I'm preparing for medical school).

Location:  Buffalo, N.Y.
e-mail:  mikedean@well.sf.ca.us

Resume follows.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                               MICHAEL D. MERRILL
                         278 St. Lawrence Avenue, Apt. 4
                               Buffalo, NY  14216
                  Home:  (716) 874-6921, Work:  (716) 857-4419

EXPERIENCE

      Health Care Plan, Buffalo, N.Y.
      Assistant to the Director of Quality Assurance, 9/91-present.
      Coordination of activity surrounding cases in litigation, design and
      maintenance of Paradox databases, work on the Quality Management
      and Quality Assurance programs.

      Mike Merrill Writing Services, Buffalo, N.Y.
      Freelance writing, editing and tutoring, 1/92-present.

      Beth Israel Hospital, Boston, Mass.
      Administrative Coordinator, Psychiatry Department, 12/89-5/91.
      Office management, database design and maintenance.

      The Middlesex News, Framingham, Mass.
      Daily Newspaper Reporter, 7/87-12/89.
      Work included police coverage, local news and investigations.  Honorable
      mention in AP Editors' contest for investigative series on nursing
      homes.

EDUCATION

      Columbia University, New York, N.Y.
      M.S. in Journalism, May 1987.

      Dartmouth College, Hanover, N.H.
      B.A., with Honors, in English, June 1985.
      Senior Thesis on T.S. Eliot.
      Six months studying English Literature in London.

RECENT PUBLISHED WORK

      "The Epidemiology of Common Community Concerns,"  In:  Harkness, G.A.,
             Ed.  Epidemiology in Nursing Practice.  New York:  Mosby.
             (Awaiting Publication)
      "Cancer Rates in Buffalo."  Alternative Press, 2(2):9.  (1992)

OTHER SKILLS

      Computer skills (self-taught):  Paradox and Q+A database design and
             maintenance, Lotus, QuattroPro, many word processors, Norton
             Utilities, etc.

                          References available on request.
Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:2593 misc.jobs.offered:9012 ba.jobs.offered:1464
From: alanh@cup.portal.com (Alan E Hattman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,ba.jobs.offered
Subject: PC Support Specialist, Fremont CA (Broker)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:50:53 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

                             PC SUPPORT SPECIALIST

                                   JOB 143WS


East Bay client is looking for an individual with strong PC / MAC / VAX and
NOVELL Networks exp to install and assist in the configuration of a mixed
platform environment.  Strong exp with networks is required.

2-3 years exp is necessary.  

Immediate start
Fremont location
Length: 1 - 2 months
Rate: Open (DOE)

For consideration / information contact:

William Santos - Sr. Account Executive
Mini-Systems Associates                      The Right People....
100 Homeland Court, Suite 405                      The First Time...
San Jose, CA 95112                                         Guaranteed!!

Voice:  408-451-0254
Fax:    408-451-0277
Email:  alanh@cup.portal.com  (ASCII format only!) 
Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:2603 atl.jobs:371
From: auug@dscatl.UUCP (Atlanta UNIX Users Group)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,atl.jobs
Subject: TRANSACT Contractor, North Carolina (recruiter)
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:23:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Atlanta UNIX Users Group,  Atlanta  GA

[ Supplied to the Atlanta UNIX Users Group (AUUG) ]

Need a Programmer/Analyst contractor with HP-3000, COBOL, and
TRANSACT skills.

Location: North Carolina

Contact:
   Dominique Pair
   National Search Consultants
   2022 Powers Ferry Rd, Suite 180, Atlanta, Ga  30339
   (404) 980-0600
   (404) 255-8403 (FAX for resumes)

[ AUUG is posting this as a service to the NETNEWS community.  The recruiter
  does not have e-mail capability, so e-mail responses will not be forwarded.]
From: brada@bardlover.Eng.Sun.COM (Brad Albom)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: 1706 Repeal Debated
Date: 30 Jul 1992 18:59:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bardlover
Keywords: contract, 1706


I just noticed a news item that said repeal of 1706 (that infamous 
IRS section) was being debated in the House Ways and Means Committee.  
Does anyone have additional information ?

The article says those arguing in favor of the repeal included Reps:

Doug Barnard   (D-Ga)
Tom Lantos     (D-Calif)
Major R. Owens (D-N.Y.)

If someone could provide phone numbers for the above & for House W & M
committee, it might be a good time to do some lobbying.

The article also said that some organization called "Information Technology
Association of America" was AGAINST the repeal.  Does anyone know who
supports this group of jokers (I can just guess.) ?

-brad albom
Software Engineering Solutions, Inc (Not related to Sun Micro)
Office: (415) 969-0141    - Probably get a secretary
FAX   : (415) 961-3050    - Probably get a high pitched tone
email : brada@eng.sun.com - Best Bet (In On Random Weekdays)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: ravens@wam.umd.edu (Raven Silverthorn)
Subject: UNIX/C programmers in Bethesda area (Part Time/Contractor)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: um
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:46:50 GMT

Subject: HELP WANTED: Assistant for software developer

We are looking for someone with the folowing experience to assist in the
development of our page formatting software:

	1) Must know UNIX cold. In other words, sometimes you dream in UNIX

	2) You must be able to program in the C-Language.  You don't have to
		dream in C; you just have to be able to hold a conversation.

	3) You must know the PC pretty well.  In other words, DOS is your 
		third language after C.  Being able to turn the computer on
		doesn't count, although its a good start.

	4) Must have a warm idea about the PostScript Language.  For those of
		you that PostScript was merely a printer, you do not have a
		warm idea about PostScript.

Also, it should be told that we are hoping for someone who is at least an
undergraduate senior in Computer Science.  Graduate students either holding
a BS degree or attempting a graduate degree in Computer Science are welcome
to apply.  If your not a Senior or a Graduate Student, but you happen to excel
in the first four requirements, call us anyway.

Which reminds me...

You can call us at:

Ray Wishner (Owner) 			(301) 718-0626
Brian Sobus (Tech. Writing) 

or E-Mail us at:
ravens@wam.umd.edu

-Brian
From: apn@Apple.COM (Alex Novickis)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Warranty for consulting jobs
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:20:06 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <2A6F7892.27598@noiro.acs.uci.edu> jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien) writes:
>
>If this is not the right newsgroup, my apologies. Please do point me to the
>right place.

consulting to do design of h/w widget and....
>
>My question is: Should I offer some type of warranty (like a 90 day repair or
>replace at my discretion type) for this thing I'm building. Either way, am I in
>any kind of legal responsibility for what I've built. If so, should I (or we) sign
>some type of written agreement specifying the conditions and such.
>

As usual, different things work for different situations... however, personally
I tend to not take on any consulting activities unless it's billed as
time x rate + expenses... 
However you'll invariable need to give an estimate of the time you will spend
doing the job, and cost from there.
My problems with doing fixed bid + expenses or just fixed bid, is with the
customer requirements changing during work. It's OK with me that they change
but it's not going to be on my time.




-- 
Alex P. Novickis, Real Time systems demi-guru.  (W)   408-370-4541
ALINK:alex.n                                    
UUCP:{amdahl,claris,pyramid,sun,decwrl,well,ubvax,ames}!apn@apple.com,apn@nonvon
"I think... I think it's in my basement. Let me go upstairs and check"-Escher.
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: skills worksheet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:20:18 -0500

victor@mephisto.tcs.com (Victor Elkind) writes:

VE> I am curious if anyone out there who contracts through a jobshop
VE> ever got work through an agency that asked you to fill out a skills
VE> worksheet?

Yes, many times.

VE> I feel that a resume should be sufficient for an agent worth his pay
VE> to match a prospective job with an applicant.

VE> Any comments?

Ditto!  A skills worksheet is a sign of a place that just considers you a
warm body, a file, a tab to fill a slot.

I am not a number, I am a free man!  Well, maybe not free, but cheap.... B-)

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: Recruiters, Brokers and Job Shops in this news group
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:28:00 GMT
Organization: Messina Software

chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:

>Hi,
>	I've been away from m.j.c for a while, and now that I am back, I have
>noticed a disturbing change.  There is nothing here but advertisements for
>brokers, recruiters and job shops.
>	These are companies that are using the uunet/darpa/usenet system
>to directly advertise for business.  I thought that this was against the rules
>of this largely government supported network.  Have the rules changed?  Am I
>now allowed to use this net to advertise for my company's latest electronic
>widgets?  I think not.
>	Begone job shops, recruiters, and brokers!  Go out and pay for your
>advertising like everybody else!

Are you insane?  They are doing exactly what this group was created for -
provide contract information.  
Fascist.

t.
From: lloyd-ritter@cup.portal.com (Lloyd-Ritter and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: OSI/ FTAM/ GUI test devel, Austin, TX, recruiter
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:14:47 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

Location of contract: Austin, TX
Est. start date: asap
Est. length: 5 month min
Rate: to 41/hr
Skill reqts: OSI/ LAN, WAN/ FTAM/ UNIX SVR4
Duties: test development in UNIX SVR4 environment

Please call Kathy on 415-964-6644, fax 415-964-8719. No email please
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jeffrey@algor2.algorists.com (Jeffrey Kegler)
Subject: Re: Salary ranges wanted
Reply-To: jeffrey@algor2.algorists.com (Jeffrey Kegler)
Organization: Algorists, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:23:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.234646.18090@tridom.com> mwr@tridom.uucp (Mark Reardon) writes:
>In article <154a2tINNdoh@cs.utexas.edu>, wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
>|> [ The client had asked for a justification of the requested hourly rate ]
>|> One clarification, my friend is dealing directly with the company that
>|> he plans to work for.  He is not dealing with a contract house.
>
>This is an indication that the company thinks the rate is too high.
>Your friend is in the position of making the next move and about the
>only bad one is not responding in any way.  Even the statement, "That's
>what I charge and I won't do it for less.", is better than nothing.
>Obviously, your friend thought up his rate in some fashion and it is
>really not important to the company how.  What they want is to see if
>they can lower it.

I would not be sure that the request was an attempt to lower the rate,
and would respond in a positive fashion.  The people hiring may
envisioning someone looking over the expense, and saying stuff like,
"A programmer at $40 a hour!  My kid writes programs for the Apple and
would gladly work for $10 an hour."  They might need to have arguments
filed away to protect themselves from this sort of stuff from
higher-ups, auditors, new managers out to prove the current staff are
wasteful idiots, etc.  This would be a legitimate request and should
be responded to accordingly.  The response should be brief, but to the
point.

If it turns out that it's a attempt to wear you down until you'll take
a lower rate, then at some point you have to say "Take it or leave
it."  But absent evidence to the contrary you have to assume the
potential client has a legitimate reason for the request.

My experience is people attempting to lower your rate (and my rates
*are* negotiable) will be direct, with statements like "You may be
worth it, but that's the maximum corporate HQ will allow." or "I do
have another applicant at X an hour."  They usually don't try to play
around with you.  Especially in these recessionary times, nobody feels
the need to apologize for trying to get full value for this dollar
anymore.

Jeffrey Kegler, Independent UNIX Consultant, Algorists, Inc.
jeffrey@algor2.ALGORISTS.COM or uunet!algor2!jeffrey
137 E Fremont AVE #122, Sunnyvale CA 94087
"The problem with hi-tech is that the marketers who invented the
term think they know what it means."


-- 

Jeffrey Kegler, Independent UNIX Consultant, Algorists, Inc.
jeffrey@algor2.ALGORISTS.COM or uunet!algor2!jeffrey
137 E Fremont AVE #122, Sunnyvale CA 94087
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract