HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rrm@icf.hrb.com (MURPH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND/PSU--third time's a charm?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:02:26 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

In article <92315.145513JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Nov9.214653.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>, traynor@fnalo.fnal.gov says:
>>
>>Oh _puhleeeeaaase_ let's beat Penn State this year........
>>
>>                                        -Mike Traynor


>>
> Oooh, Mike, be careful.  You don't want to set you goals too high, now
> do you?
> 
> Jim Thomas
> Penn State
> 
      Yeah, just like Penn State set their goals just a little to high this
year. Oops.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tino@yogi.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: Dick Vitale on football
Reply-To: tino@yogi.metray
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:24:58 GMT

Anyone here good ol' Dickie V's comments on the FSU-A&M controversy last night
during the Seton Hall-Delaware basketball game?  Hate to say it but Dick NEVER
went to FSU....(sounds like he sure knows his football though!!)


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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Proof of What drives I-A football (was Iowa vs BYU in the Copper
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:05:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.043322.19372@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uio
wa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
>    I just heard this on the radio, Iowa has accepted a bid to
>the Copper Bowl providing two things:
>1) They win this Saturday.
>2) Michigan State wins.

First of all, this is not a cutdown of Iowa.  But, if Iowa wins, it finishes 
the season at 6-6 and fourth in the Big Ten, which is a lousy league this year 
any way you slice it.

This is a non-winning record.

I thought bowl games were are intended to be "rewards for teams which have good
seasons."  In athletics, teams which perform well are the teams which make 
playoffs and tournaments.  But not I-A college football.

There have got to be ten teams which will have better records than this and
will stay at home. The only reason for this, of course, is the added notoriety
which a team like Iowa brings from its name, and the increase in revenue which
is likely to be generated.

There have been a lot of cracks made about the Blockbuster Bowl choosing Penn
St. before the start of the season.  It seems to me that if the bowls are only
interensted in making money by putting revenue-generating teams together in
bowl games regardless of their mediocre records all the bowls might as well
pick thier matchups before the season starts; after all, it seems that is the
most important criteria for choosing teams to play.

Further proof of the prostitutionalization of college football.

PDunn
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Oldest Rivalry in the South (was Re: Georgia 14, Auburn 10)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:09:05 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Keywords: tiguzz
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov

Yesterday, I wrote:
>}
>}In terms of games, the Virginia-North Carolina rivalry is older - 97
>}meetings, I believe. Also, William and Mary-Richmond is billed as
>}the "oldest rivalry in the south" with the series record standing 
>}at 49-47-5 in Richmond's favor.

In case anyone is checking up on me, let me correct myself - W&M
leads the series by the record indicated, not Richmond.



-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
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From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:06:48 GMT

In article <BILLMS.92Nov19185113@gip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>
>What teams has WSU lost to, and which ones has it beaten?  Iowa has lost to
>several ranked teams, and looked pretty darn good through the year.  They
>gave Miami a game, though not a real scare.
>
>Bill
>	Bill Mangione-Smith
>	billms@eecs.umich.edu

Yea, don't forget the close 11 point loss at homecoming to top rated Purdue.
Iowa's losses are really assets, not liabilities.


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From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: Can you believe it? Too bad, Rose Bowl fans ...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 23:15:16 GMT

It's still only the third quarter, 
but Wash. St. is beating U. Wash. 35-7 !!

If WSU holds up, this and Michigan's third tie (ha) 
means that once again, the Rose Bowl has no impact on the MNC.

Rob wont have to worry about Michigan being ahead of ND in the
polls anymore. In fact ND ought to jump up at least two places, while
being idle!  :-)

The coalition may just work yet ...
Go Auburn and Texas on Thanksgiving day!!

-
Greg Sroka
Menlo Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@poincare.WPI.EDU (Kevin King)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Stupid Bowl Bids
Date: 24 Nov 1992 01:27:51 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.wpi.edu
Keywords: Stupidity
Originator: kevin@poincare.WPI.EDU


I can't believe that there was a possibility of Washington St.
not getting into a bowl game.  Luckily they got somewhere,
although playing Utah is ridiculous.  

Other possible undeserving bowl bids(according to USA Today):

Oregon in the Independece Bowl!!!!
I'd be the first person to say the PAC-10 is the toughest conference
but if Oregon and Utah go to bowls
and Southern Mississippi doesn't, then there really is no justice.
S. Miss. has played almost every team tough this year and overall
has a respectable record of 7-4.

How can Nevada(with 5 1-A wins, member of the Big West) 
receive more votes in the coaches' poll than Wake Forest, 
who plays in one of the toughest conferences in the country?

Anyway, those are my gripes.  Hopefully, some of the "bad"
bowls will create some of the best games as they sometimes do.
By the way, why is the Peach Bowl played on January 2, doesn't
that become a little anti-climactic?

As for the Heisman, how about a few votes for Boston College's
Chuckie Dukes?

-Kevin King
From: ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The NCAA Applies its Double Standard Again
Keywords: Death Penalty, Big Schools Go Scott Free
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:30:49 GMT
Distribution: rec

Maybe we should get in touch with David Berst and see if he has any
comment on this question.

Hopefully he won't faint.
--
Carl Koontz
ckoontz@rdxsun40.aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: NC STATE/WF & Bowls
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:54:07 GMT

oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:

>So, Cliff, money really does make college sports go 'round.  Arrrgh.

Not to mention what college sports money does to my stomach.

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Fight songs
Originator: jagreath@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Big Ten
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:46:48 GMT


How about this version of the University of North Carolina's fight song:

Across 10,000 Durham ditches, there is a place called hell
Where 10,000 son's-a-b****es call it Chapel hill

Sooo, P*** on Carolina-lina
P*** on Carolina-lina
P*** on Carolina
We're from State.

And one of NC State's actual fight songs:

We're the red and white from State and we know we are the best
A hand behind our backs we will take on all the rest
GO TO HELL CAROLINA
Devils and Deacs stand in line
The red and white from N C State 
GO STATE!


I'd like to see some "adapted" versions of other school's rival's fight songs.
It could make for entertaining reading.

PS  No offense is intended to fans or students at UNC-Chapel Hill.  This is
simply something we sing here at State. :)
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Small college in Penn
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:57:58 GMT
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center

In article <1992Nov17.165825.12228@walter.bellcore.com> lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver) writes:
>In article <4157@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM> sstasuke@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Steve Stasukewicz) writes:
>>
>>A while back somebody posted an artcile about a college named Slippery
>>Rock.  Does anyone know if there is a team in the same conference that
>>starts with the letters "Shippen...." Can't remember the exact name. 
>>It's a small college in Pennsylvania.  Also, does anyone have the 
>>standings for that conference that they could post or email to me?
>>
>>Thnks a bunch.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>
>It's Shipensburg!  They, along with other teams such as Millersville,
>Mansville, Edinboro, Kutztown (Andre Reed's school), Cheyney, Loch Haven,
>Indiana (PA), California (PA), East Stroadsburg, and a couple more that
>slip my mind all play in the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference (Div II).
>
>Unfortunely the papers here in Joisey don't show division II standings for
>out of state schools.
>
>
>Also, back in the early 80's Shippsburg and Slippery Rock played a game
>at Michigan Stadium (didn't fill the 106,xxx seats though).  Apparently
>some of the locals in Michigan were fond of the name "Slippery Rock".

WOW!!! This is unbelievable! Good old Slimey Pebble mentioned twice in one
year on the net! 

>
>Maybe someone from Michigan could fill in on the details of that game.
>
>
>John L
>

Kevin (former Slippery Rock, Pa. resident - 1983)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Bowl Matchups
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:34:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.040522.27314@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.212802.20596@news.nd.edu> rwood1@takagi.helios.nd.edu (richard wood) writes:
>>Not that it makes mush difference, but the bowls are
>>put together according to the rankings of the teams
>>from the CNN/USA Today Poll - NOT the AP Poll.
>
>Bzzzzzzzzzzzttt!!!!  Wrong answer, buddy.  The bowl coalition will use the
>AP rankings.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey, Richard...want I should get the net...or can you reel him in all by
yourself?

>
>-- 
>--------------------------------------------
>-John Ryan
>ryan@cs.fsu.edu

Kevin

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:01:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.225412.5176@newsgate.sps.mot.com> jeffq@bang.sps.mot.com (Jeff Quinn) writes:
>	(As far as the poles go, I don't know if it would be
>to our advantage to beat Texas. If We win, Texas is not ranked and would just be
>another victim of our weak schedule. But, if We loose, Texas goes to a bowl and our schedule is tougher.
>Yes, thats the ticket, and with the weak schedule argument gone, then We would
>be tied with FSU. Right?)

Yeah.. if Texas can crawl all the way upto #1. FSU's only loss is to the #1 
team on the road!

>	Gig'em -JDQ 

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: hey cliff... 
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:55:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.190406.17244@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>>
>>Hey Cliff, what's the name of that damn Miami bird mascot?
>
>I don't know, I just root for whomever is playing the Fightin' French.

Let's get together and drink some 12 year old scotch.

- goober (speaking in tongues) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Rules check
Keywords: nn
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:28:33 GMT


>>With all of the rules changes recently, can someone quote me the rule
>>for the advancement of a fumble?
>>
>>I am curious to know if Mississippi State could have legally advanced
>>the fumble recovery on the punt.  An advance which they in turn fumbled.
>>If they cannot advance the fumble, then it should have been State ball
>>at the point of the recovery.  I have not heard anyone saying that it
>>should be State ball, but I am still curious as to the rule.
>>
>>cmuck
>
>There's something in the pro rules about muffed kickoffs, but I don't know
>about college stuff for certain. I don't think there's anything in the
>rules that prohibits the returning team from advancing a recovery of their
>own fumble on a punt return.
>
>--
> David Nichols        Senior Statistical Support Specialist         SPSS, Inc.

The reason that I asked was because it is illegal for the "offense" to
advance a fumble once it is beyond the line of scrimmage.  The punter
and the punting team are considered defensive.  I believe that this is 
the first year that the defense can advance a fumble if the play is
beyond the line of scrimmage.

Besides, the fumble was not a muff...

thanx though
cmuck
From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big 10? [guffaw] was Re: Michigan vs. winning teams?
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:20:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

From article <1992Nov23.185152.20442@wl.com>, by wyborsr@wl.com
(Russ Wyborski):

> In article <1992Nov23.164318.11849@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
>>  Is it true that Michigan hasn't beat a team with a final record
>>  over .500 this year? Could someone post their schedule and let us know?

> Yes this is true. Here is their schedule with their opponents current
> records.
> 		Notre Dame (8-1-1) 17-17
> 		Okla. St. (4-6-1)  35-3
> 		Houston    (3-7)   61-7
> 		Iowa       (5-7)   52-28
> 		Michigan St.(5-6)  35-10
> 		Indiana    (5-6)   31-3
>  		Minnesota  (2-9)   63-13
> 		Purdue     (4-7)   24-17
> 		N'western  (3-8)   40-7
>     		Illinois   (6-4-1) 22-22
> 		Ohio St.   (8-2-1) 13-13
> 
> 		Opponent's record 58-63-1. Taking out the 3 teams
>                   that they tied it is 36-56-1.

Check it out!  They call it the "Big 10"!  WOOO HOOO!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Where would the Big 10 be without polls?

--

Steve Matheson   Program in Neuroscience   University of Arizona
sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who's #3 in Big 10
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:55:09 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes:
>Like the time (83) MNC BYU played a dud against 6-5 Michigan?  At this point, 
>I think MSU or Illinois will kill the WAC champ.  In fact, I think the B10 will
>go at least 3-1, if not 4-0 in the bowls.  Put a save on this file now folks...
Actually, BYU played Michigan in 1984, not 1983.

When was the last time the Big-10 actually had a winning record in the
postseason?  It certainly wasn't last year.  Can anyone remember back that far?
:^)
-- 
Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rownd@eelpout.micro.umn.edu (Brooks Kerry Rownd)
Subject: Re: Huskers lose. Mega-Major Bummer!!
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:09:05 GMT

	I don't know about your assessment of OU...I've seen enough OU-NU
	games to make me duck whenever I see crimson and cream!  They'll
	be fighting for respectability this year.  Iowa State was a 
	shock, but I'd've understood NU self-destructing against OU.  We can
	only hope they get it together in time.  
		But it's good to see the Big8 competitive.  
	I just hope it doesn't mean the whole conference is heading
	toward mediocrity...  Which brings up the subject of the 
	rumored shuffle I've seen in the paper and the Sporting News
	concerning Texas joining the Big8 and Colorado leaving for the
	Pac10.  I don't get much news on this out here in Minnesota...
	does anyone have anything substantial to say on this???
	'Twould be nice to pick up Texas, but losing CU would be a 
	blow.  

congrats, Iowa St.....PLEASE keep it up thru saturday, at least...???	

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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Bowl Matchups
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:23:45 GMT

jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
> Can someone please tell me what Tempe is like on New Years Eve ?

     Pretty good.  They close off all of downtown to
cars and have a huge block party with fireworks.
People walk around from bar to bar and get shitfaced.

     Then the next day they have a neato football game.
Usually it's warm enough where you can take your
shirt off in the stands if you're in the sun.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:16:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.141546.18334@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>WSU lost to Stanford, at Stanford, and Oregon at home.  The only ranked teams
>they have beaten are Arizona, USC, and now Washington.  They have only 
>played 4 top 25 teams (UW, USC, Arizona, and Stanford).  Their out
>of conference schedule...well... stunk.. They played Montana, Fresno State,
>and Temple.  In conference they managed to avoid UCLA and California.

Meek, you are still using lies to make your point? See, I accused you
of being dishonest 6 months ago, and you still haven't learned.

WSU beat UCLA at Pullman, on 10/17/92. I was in LA that weekend and saw
the game.

Well, maybe your "they managed to avoid UCLA" has another meaning, like
"their running backs avoid the tackling of the UCLA defenders ....", and
spend the next 30 days harping on it.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: Michigan: The Great Paper Tiger
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:20:23 GMT

Weedhoppers!  Comrads!  Rejoice.  The revolution has begun, 
nothing slows it.  Neither Michigan nor Ohio State, nor any
of the other 'paper tigers' of the B10.  

And now words from the little red book, Chairman Lou Tse-Tepper-tung
and others as paraphrased by yours truly.  Please refer to indicated 
chapters.

MICHIGAN AND ALL REACTIONARIES ARE PAPER TIGERS!!!

'All Michigan teams are paper tigers.  In appearance, the reactionaries
are terrifying, but in reality they are not so powerful.  From a long- 
term point of view, it is not the Michigan teams but the Illini who
are really powerful.'
				"Talk with American correspondent
				Anna Louise Strong", Aug. 1946, Selected
				Works. IV, p.100  Coach Ray Elliot

CLASSES AND CLASS STRUGGLES

'The Illini system will eventually replace the Michigan system; this is
an objective law independent of man's will.  However much the reaction-
aries (e.g. Bruce Pearl) try to hold back the wheel of history, sooner
or later the Illini will take back their rightful place and will
inevitably triumph.'
				"Speech at the Meeting of the Supreme 
				Illini Council of the Alumni in Celebration
				of the 76th Anniversary of the Great October
				Festivities" (homecoming). Coach Lou Henson.
UNITY

'The unity of our team, the balance of our offense, and the running
game - these are the basic guarantees of the sure triumph of our
cause.
				"On the Correct Handling of Contradictions
				Among the Illini" (September 27, 1992) 
				1st pocket edition, pp 1-2.  Offensive
				coordinator Tom Beck.  Required reading for 
				Jason Verdusco.  

DARE TO STRUGGLE AND DARE TO WIN

Illini, unite and defeat the Michigan aggressors and all their  
running dogs (er backs)! Illini team, be courageous, defy difficulties  
and advance wave upon wave.  Then a minor bowl will belong to
the Illini.  Monsters of all kinds shall be destroyed. 
				"Statement Supporting the Illini	
				against Michigan Aggression"  People of
				the World, Unite and Defeat the MI 
				Aggressors and All Their Lackeys, 2nd 
				Ed, p 14.  Head coach Lou Tepper.  
			 
METHODS OF THINKING 

Often, correct knowledge can be arrived at only after many repetitions
of the process leading from matter to consciousness and then 
back to matter, that is leading from practice to knowledge and 
then back to practice.  Such is our theory of knowledge, the Dialectice 
materIalist (DI) theory of knowledge.
				"Where Do Correct Ideas Come From?"
				May 1991,  Editorial board of the
				student paper, Daily Illini. 

And a late announcement-
	Group exercises on the Quad have been cancelled tommorrow
	morning.  President Ikenberry wretched his back doing cartwheels
	on his lawn last night.  Students should proceed directly to 
	classes...


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