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From: x3420abo@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: one more time...
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:44:54 GMT
Reply-To: x3420abo@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

I have two frames for sale....
	1. Pfeiffer custom frame
	    -good shape, never crashed, 58cm, true-temper
	    -asking $275, $300 with Stonglight Headset

	2. Club Fuji
	    -54cm, good shape
	    -includes headset, front derailleur
	    -asking $150

E-mail me for more infor and other cool stuff...
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: cs123052@cs.brown.edu (Michael Lee)
Subject: Re: Saddles
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:08:34 GMT

|> Has anyone tried the San Marco Titanio saddle?  It's about the same
|> weight as the Flight but has "wings" that extend down to cover the rails.
|> It may be more durable than the Flight.
|> 
|> Also similar to the Titanio but with a narrower stern for off-road use
|> is the Bontrager saddle.  It is available with hollow steel rails for
|> about $50.  I'd like to try one on my MTB.  Any one tried one?
|> 
|> How about the Dirt Research saddle?  Some of their parts have the best
|> $/gram saved ratios I've seen.


I was *told* that the Bontrager Ti saddle (made by San Marco) which sells for about
$70 US, has the "wings" which fold down to cover the rails in order to facilitate 	
moving back on the seat when descending some hill...

Also, where does one buy Dirt Research stuff here, in the US? (both mail order and in	
the Boston, Providence area?)  No one around here has even heard of it.

- mike
cs123052@cs.brown.edu
From: kramana@cad604.intel.com (Kalyan Ramanathan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted Roof Rack ( Yakima/ Thule etc)
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:22:17 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation,  Design Technology

I am looking for an affordable roof rack for my car ( Honda Accord '91 Sedan without rain gutters). Please get in touch if you have one to sell.

Thanx 

Kalyan K Ramanathan
From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Bicycle Locks?
Keywords: lock theft prevention
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:06:25 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au

G'day,

We just cruised the FAQ and couldn't see much in the way of recomendations
on locks.

A friend is looking to buy a Kryptonite type lock, but has balked at the
rather large number of digits in the cost.
Our question is: Are the numerous other brands of U-lock of comparable
quality to the Kryptonite? Do you really pay for what you get?

The Kryptonite also appears to be much heavier than some of the others,
is the weight directly proportional to the unbreakability?

Is there safety in any of the cable type locks?

Incidentally, is this question worthy of FAQ inclusion?
I think I've seen this topic a number of times but not paid enough attention.

Thanks,
Andrew
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From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Flite Saddles for sale
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:52:14 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.bicycles.marketplace, harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney) writes:

>Thank goodness it ain't no Brooks :-) Seriously, I believe complaining
>about the Flite's lack of durability is missing the point.  I believe
>the design objective was to minimize weight while maintaining reasonable
>comfort.  Durability was apparently not a design objective, as evidenced
>by the relatively short lived cover, and relatively short lived Ti
>rails.  When buying such an item you pay for the weight efficiency,
>not the durability of the product.  If you don't want TRS, don't buy
>TRS.

>Glossary:  TRS - Trick Racing Shi###Stuff

I think most racers are interested in durability.  We tend to put more
miles on our bikes than most riders (except endurance riders) and must
use them in all weather conditions.  I expect most of the parts on my bike
(except tires and chains) to last at least a season.  My Flite saddle
failed to do that.

Maybe the Flite should come under the catagory of TPS - Trick Poser
Shit.

David Mackintosh
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy)
Subject: Bicycle Shops in NJ
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:56:55 GMT



Does anyone on the net have a recommendation for a good bicycle
shop in New Jersey, Monmouth County Area?  I'm looking for a
shop that'll do a comphrehensive fitting....

Thanks Much
-- 
It (the telephone) will unmake our work. No greater instrument of counter- 
revolution and conspiracy can be imagined --- Josef Vissarvonovich Stalin
From: icsic231@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: *4-Sale* Sun Aero Rims
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:02:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: Msu.00963D0D.39D30BC0
Reply-To: icsic231@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

I ordered a set of Sun Aero Rims for my MTB, and I was sent a set of 26"
road rims. I guess they are for some weird time triles wheel or something.
Anyway, they are slightly to big for any MTB tire I tried and would like to
sell them.  E-mail if you are interested.

Jason Todd
icsic231@trex.oscs.montana.edu
From: LEEJEFA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: E:  NUKE PROOF ENDS
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:18:46 EST

In previous article, I had stated that the Nuke Proof bar ends retain for 75$.
That was a typo:  it should have said retail.  Yes they are titanium and they
are the best on the market.  Read your MBA magazines.
 
Jeffrey Lee
(203) 436-3060
jefflee@minerva.cis.yale.edu
 
P.S. no- i'm not a law student.
 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: LEEJEFA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: FOR SALE:  NUKE PROOF ENDS
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:58:26 EST

My friend has a pair of brand new Nuke Proof carbon fiber wrap titanium bar
ends for sale.  They're the lightest on the market and retain for 75$ but
he's willing to sell them for 50$.
 
Jeffrey Lee
(203) 436-3060
jefflee@MINERVA.cis.yale.edu
From: harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Flite Saddles for sale
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:50:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh) writes:
: In rec.bicycles.marketplace, harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney) writes:
: 
: >If you don't want TRS, don't buy
: >TRS.
: I think most racers are interested in durability.

I think what racers are interested in is very much a matter of fashion.
When I started racing in the early 1970s, light weight stuff was the
fashion.  People were racing on Scheeren Weltmeisters, Super Champ
Medaille D'Ors, and Fiamme Yellow Label rims.  The _heavy_ rims that
people used were Fiamme Red Labels, which weighed about 360 g.  That's
considered light now, as it's about what a GL-330 actually weighs.
People also were into drilling, milling, and doing lathe work to cut
weight off of parts, and certainly did not expect this to extend the
part's life.  The prevailing fashion changed, and by the time Mavic
introduced their nearly-indestructible "SSC" rims, nobody said "Of
course their indestructible, they weigh 450g", but instead said "That's
what I need, the ultimate in reliability."  The pendulum appears to be
swinging back, with TTT SL bars, Ti seat posts, and other light stuff
gaining a lot of popularity.

: I expect most of the parts on my bike
: (except tires and chains) to last at least a season.  My Flite saddle
: failed to do that.

As did the one and only Al alloy railed saddle I ever used.  I haven't
bought a Ti railed saddle because I expect they're designed by the same
people, with the same design parameters, and I expect them to have a
similar life span.  Again, I don't think it is reasonable to buy the
lightest stuff available and expect it to be as durable as heavier
equipment.  I think the Flite may be entirely appropriate if one has a
special crit bike or a track bike that doesn't get a whole lot of
mileage.  It could also be appropriate if you have a sponsor willing to
replace worn and broken ones, or if you have a very fat wallet.

Harry "one Medaille D'Or left" Phinney   harry@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Choosing equipment for road wheels
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:00:29 GMT

>I'm contemplating upgrading the wheels on my road bike. I want to choose
>components wisely so that the wheels will perform well and last a very long
>time. The wheels will be used for recreational and club riding on roads
>that are very hilly and very poorly maintained. So, lightness and
>durability are both quite important.
>Other stuff: I'm planning to get Velox rim strips and light butyl tubes
>(Michelin or Panaracer). I'll probably replace my Specialized Turbo/S
>700x23c with 700x20c Continentals when they wear out. (The extra width on
>the Specializeds seems fairly unnecessary.) What are the differences
>between Super Sport, Super Sport Ultra, and Grand Prix?
I strongly suggest you get wider tires if you are interested in durabilty and 
protection for your wheels.  I agree with the choice of Conti's but I would
get at 23's or 25's.  I ride 28's but then I'm much bigger than you.  I believe
the difference between Super Sport and Super Sport Ultras is that the Ultras
are foldable.  I may be wrong though.  The Grand Prixs are much tougher than
the others.  Conti has introduced a new tire taht fits in between the SS and 
GP's that has some of the toughness of the GP but costs less.  I have some
on order now (they're 28's) and will let the net know how I like them.
-Terry

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jbr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jarryl B. Ritchie)
Subject: Parts for Sale
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:35:08 GMT

I have just a couple of things for sale.  

1.        Allen Universal Car Rack                    $10.00
            - this rack is one generation before
              the Allen 103a.  It may be an 
              Allen 100.  Will hold 2 or three easy,
              and four if you take your time.

2.        Front Wheel (Clincher)                      $30.00 
            - 36 hole Mavic MA2 built up with a Sun Tour cyclone
              sealed bearing hub.

3.        Front Wheel (Clincher)                      $30.00 
            - 36 hole Matrix Titan built with a Miche Hub

4.        (2) Specialized Ground Control Mountian Bike Tires
                                                      $16.00/each
            - "ridden once or twice on the road"

5.        (3) Schwinn 26x2.0-2.125  Montian Bike Tubes (presta)
                                                        2.00/each
            - New in Box, don't need presta anymore

All prices are starting points.  Make me an offer.  You pay shipping.

Jay ritchie

jbr1@ra.msstate.edu


 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: sutton@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Rich Sutton)
Subject: Re: Choosing equipment for road wheels
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:43:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov18.114514.3501@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Ben Wildasin" <bwildasi@nectarine.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>
>Rims: The difficult part. As far as I can tell, there is little good reason
>to go with box-section, especially since the CC doesn't sell MA-2 any more.
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's not in the new catalog but they still have them on stock. I placed
an order last week and that's what the guy on the phone told me.

-Rich
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: CMSC28@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Mark Hickey)
Subject: Re: 0 Re: FOR SALE:  NUKE PROOF ENDS
Organization: Motorola
Date: 19 Nov 1992 06:45:31 CST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>My friend has a pair of brand new Nuke Proof carbon fiber wrap titaniumbar
>ends for sale.  They're the lightest on the market and retain for 75$ bt
>he's willing to sell them for 50$.                     ******

>Jeffrey Lee
>(203) 436-3060
>jefflee@MINERVA.cis.yale.edu
                     ****

Uhhh, Jeff.... you wouldn't by any chance be a *law* student, would
you?

Mark (on your left) Hickey
From: sruland@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane F Ruland)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Bike Locks (A public service announcement)
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:14:26 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University



Somebody had some questions about Kryptonite bike locks, I just thought I
pass along this info:

The U shackle locks offer about the best protection currently available,
but there are two things that are very important to remember when using
one.

1.  Buy the shortest possible "U" shackle that you can possible use
    with your bike.  While the long "mountain bike" shackles seem
    really convienient they are easily broken.  How?

The most common way of breaking these locks is with a simple (and
extremely portable) automotive bottle jack.  You simply place it
between the flat portion  of the shackle and the "U"   Five seconds
and minimal bike damage.

Moral to the story:  When the lock is on the bike there should be
no room to put any kind of lever or jack.

2.  Buy one of those brass sleeves to put on the lock, It you can't
    find one, make one.  It doesn't really have to be strong but it
    just save your bike.  How?

Thieves can simply cut the plastic coating on the bottom of the lock
find the retaining pin for the lock cylinder and drill it out.  If
they can't find it easily (i.e. covered by a sleeve) they won't bother
trying to drill.

Just my $0.02  And no I have never stolen a bike.  Just wanted to
make sure nobody steals yours.

sruland@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu   92'Trek9000 (Cheryl)
                                    92'Ninja    (Homer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Trek 820 for sale! cheap 
From: doachs@next-1.gac.edu (Dan A Oachs)
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:06:01 -0600
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov15.161900.2318@gacvx2.gac.edu>  writes:
> My brother is selling his ,like new, 1991 Trek 820.  He found a  
good  
> deal on a Cannondale DeltaV 1000 and the dealer will not give him  
> much for his bike.  It is an 18 inch white bike with black web  
paint.   
> It has a ritchey force tire in back and the stock tire in front.   
It  
> is still in excellent condition and has near 1000 easy miles on it.   
> He also added toe clips.  Asking $100-$200.
> 
> 	Any questions or comments?
> 
 
I'm sorry but I did not mention where I,m located.
St.Peter Mn. 10 miles north of Mankato Mn.
Thanks to those who sent me mail.

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From: mvolo@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Michael R. Volow)
Subject: Re: Seeking non-anodized sew-up rims
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:23:35 GMT

bschwart@ferris.cray.com (Robert J. Schwartz) writes:

>I'm looking for some rims for a set of track wheels. I'm finding that the
>tubular rim market is dominated by rims that are heavier, darker, and more
>expensive than I'd like. What I'm hoping to find is something comparable
>to the old Arc en Ciel, polished silver, ~360 grams, with eyelets. Dark rims
>either weigh 25% more or are extremely fragile and, as Jobst says, to make
>up for it they cost more.

>I know this seems like an unusual request but I can assure you, there once
>was a time when large numbers of big, strong guys rode such rims with no 
>problems. Does anybody know of a source for non-anodized, <400 gram tubular
>rims?

>Bob Schwartz
>bschwart@cray.com
I have 2 Super Champion Competition 36 Hole rims and two Fiamme
Red Label 40-hole (theres a strange one) rims. All unused. Will sell
at $9.00 per rim plus shipping.
-- 
Michael Volow, Psychiatry, Durham VA Med Center, Durham NC 27712
919 286 0411 Ext 6933               mvolo@uncecs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: brc2m@gingko.cs.Virginia.EDU (Bruce Childers)
Subject: For Sale: MAX frame & Delta brakes
Keywords: For Sale, MAX, Delta
Reply-To: brc2m@gingko.cs.Virginia.EDU (Bruce Childers)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:52:01 GMT

For Sale:

Marinoni Columbus MAX frame (bare frame, no components)

    This frame was custom built by Marinoni in 8/91 and has roughly 14K
    miles on it.  Specs:  58 cm C-C seat tube, 57 cm top tube.

    The frame will be stripped and repainted (with all decals) sometime
    next month.  Hopefully, the frame will return from the frame shop
    in mid-late January.  It will be available for immediate deliverly
    as soon as I get it back.  If arrangements can be made now, it is
    possible to have the frame painted with your choice of a single 
    color.  Otherwise, I'll have it painted dark blue with white decals.

    Best reasonable offer takes it.  Delivery arrangements and other 
    details can be worked out easily enough.  Note that this frame is
    extremely stiff (read: harsh) and is best suited for a fairly strong 
    cyclist.


Campagnolo Delta brake calipers

    One set of Campagnolo Delta brake calipers.  Brand new, never used. 
    I have no need for these brakes...  so, best reasonable offer takes
    them.  Note: does not include brake levers (though I can get ahold 
    of a set of Athena levers if you like).   Available for immediate 
    delivery.

Send e-mail if you're interested.  I'll respond to all mail sometime 
next week.

--

Bruce Childers (brc2m@Virginia.EDU)
Computer Science Department, Thornton Hall
University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903
(804) 982-2292
From: lilleyc@cs.man.ac.uk (Chris Lilley)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Grafton pedals - comments?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:11:33 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

Hi

Anyone any experience of the Grafton ATB pedals? I gather they give
more float than SPuDs.



--
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: LEEJEFA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: CANNONDALE EST 1000 FOR SALE
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:27:10 EST

Loaded - Full XT drivetrain, Cooks racing cranks, Control stem, Longhorn bars,
Ringle Ti stixs, Bubba hub ft., Nuke Proof Cassette rear, Control Post, Flite
saddle, Rock Shox in front, E.S.T. rear, smooth ride. 19" frame. Respond with
offer.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: karen@athena.mit.edu (Karen E. Walrath)
Subject: Re: Anyone besides Sears selling NON-mountain bikes in Boston area?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:21:49 GMT

In article <GPLAN.92Nov19105245@ra.cs.umb.edu> gplan@cs.umb.edu (George Planansky) writes:
>All I find in the bicycle shops in the Boston area are mountainoid
>bikes, which is not what I am looking for at this time.  Where can I 
>get an ok touring bike, to replace my Fuji S12s?
>
>If there were such a thing and it didn't cost a fortune, something
>that looked like a touring bike (swept down handlebars, meant to
>take effective fenders, ... ) but had a more robust frame, forks & 
>wheels, and could take somewhat wider tires, would be really nice.  
>
>George
>george@tusk.med.harvard.edu

Have you checked out Belmont Wheelworks (Trapelo Rd., Belmont)?  

In the future, you might want to limit this type of posting to the
Boston area.  I restricted the reply to New England (Distribution: ne),
as I didn't think someone in Australia needed to waste their time reading
this.

Karen Walrath
MIT

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt)
Subject: tires
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:37:54 GMT

In article <Bxxusu.AJv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>get at 23's or 25's.  I ride 28's but then I'm much bigger than you.  I believe
>the difference between Super Sport and Super Sport Ultras is that the Ultras
>are foldable.  I may be wrong though.  The Grand Prixs are much tougher than
>the others.  Conti has introduced a new tire taht fits in between the SS and 
>GP's that has some of the toughness of the GP but costs less.  I have some
>on order now (they're 28's) and will let the net know how I like them.
>-Terry
>

The Super Sport is the tire with tread.  It has a thicker section in the middle
that wears first.  The Super Sport Ultras are the slick ones although I've
actually never seen one, I've always asked for Super Sports.  I don't want
to turn this into a tread/slick war, but I prefer tread.

John Erhardt
From: webel@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: trainer or rollers?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:27:13 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Nov14.193642.18652@ms.uky.edu>, uk02118@nx12.mik.uky.edu (Dave Voelker) writes:
> Hello all,
> 
> I would like to get a little input on a dilemna I have.  As winter rapidly  
> approaches, I am determined this year to keep some semblance of  
> conditioning, (yeah right).  
> 
> I am pretty sensitive to cold temperatures so when it dips below 40 F you  
> won't see much of me on the road.  As such I am looking to spend around  
> $200 for either a trainer or a set of rollers.  I am leaning to the  
> rollers but am concerned about whether or not I will be able to do any  
> speed workouts.
> 
> I would like to simulate as best as possible outdoor riding indoors,  
> meaning I want to be able to spend time developing a good spin, ala  
> rollers, but also some strenous sprints and big gear work, ala trainers.
> 
> I am also curious to find different reactions to magnetic and wind  
> resistance units.
> 
> All info is appreciated.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> --
> *********************************************************
> *	Dave Voelker	*	The only thing that	*
> *  uk02118@ukpr.uky.edu *       I can't tolerate is	*
> *  uk02118@ukcc.uky.edu *	    intolerance  	*
> *********************************************************

If you aren't concerned about the portability that a foldable trainer 
offers, I would go with a set of rollers, along with a mag or fan 
unit.  If you have workouts you want to keep the bike stable for, you 
can also get a front fork stabilizer for the rollers.  I haven't 
looked at prices lately, but the whole shebang may set you back more 
than 200, but I don't think it would be much more and this set up 
would be the most flexible, and I would highly recommend the benefits 
to balance and smoothness offered by rollers, although I guess all 
don't share the opinion.  As for mag vs. wind resistance I really have 
no idea, never used either.
baird
webel@guvax.georgetown.edu
(ok, so there are a couple of runon sentences in the post now that I 
look it over.  Are there any awards for most, or least grammatically 
correct posts?  Should there be?)