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From: Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: 4 more years of bullshit!
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:15:06 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1296500482@igc.apc.org>
Hank Roth <pnews@igc.apc.org> writes:

> When U.S. voters rejected George Bush last November, they hoped 
> for an administration that would address the real concerns they 
> faced: raising poverty, high unemployment, and increasingly 
> inaccessible health care, to name but three.
>  
> But two months later, the new Clinton administration is preparing 
> to betray those hopes. 
>  

Yeah, sometimes I wonder. I'm a loyal liberal Democrat who backed
Clinton the whole way, and now we have Lloyd Bentsen and all these
other closet Republicans in the Cabinet. Then Bill Clinton sent Chelsea
to private school, a slap in the face to all D.C. residents. I can't
forsee any real change at all; corporate greed will doubtless continue.

        Yeah, I wonder. What are the Democrats really all about? They
don't tell us. I wonder if they're any better than the Republicans. I
mean, at least with Reagan and Bush you knew the working man would get
fucked over ; it was obvious, and they made no real attempt to conceal
the truth (except on foreign policy). The Democrats? We don't know.
They seem to be better, but are they? Most of them aren't willing to
suppress the right to legal abortion, order tax money for Catholic
schools to brainwash children with sexist and homophobic ideas, or
abolish the government assisatnce that so many Americans need to
subsist. But they seem to have no problem imposing the unjust death
penalty or supporting an fascist regimes in El Salvador and other
countries that practices intellectual repression and economic
subjugation (all for the benefit of U.S. multinational corporations).
Well, still I wonder. With each passing day, I lose more faith. Are the
Democrats just the Republican party with a nicer face? 


Tim Young - Dartmouth College, Class of 1996
(The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of Dartmouth
College or Dartmouth students(read the Dartmouth Review lately?))
"Not everyone can carry the weight of the world..." - R.E.M.
Xref: sparky alt.activism:21454 talk.politics.drugs:8261 alt.drugs:21482
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:50:54 EST
From: <NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs,alt.drugs
Subject: ANTI-MARIJ. PERSON NEEDED FOR NATL TV!

Rob Kampia, the President of the Undergraduate Student Government
and the unofficial advisor to NORML (Natl Organization for the Reform
of Marijuana Laws) at Penn State is scheduled to appear on
LIFETIME TV (The Jenny Pratt Show) in early March to debate the
issue of marijuana legalization.

At this point in time, he will be debating an 18-year old girl who
travels around the country telling kids not to do drugs. Rob, though,
would rather debate someone who is:

          * Blatantly and adamantly ANTI-LEGALIZATION

          * Under 30

          * Either famous, well-established, or politically renowned
            in some way

          * Someone who will argue THE FACTS.

Some choices that have been considered include Bill Bennett (but he's
too old); local political figures (but not only are these people old, they
aren't well known and don't know what they're talking about).

****WE NEED SOMEONE WHO IS VERY VOCAL ABOUT THEIR ANTI-LEGALIZATION
VIEWPOINT. (The producers of the show will let Kampia debate whoever he
wants, and he wants to find someone tough.)

If you or someone you know would be willing to participate in this
nationally televised debate, PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO PENN STATE NORML
at NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu listing your (or their) qualifications based
on the above list, the address and tel. # at which you can be
contacted, and what times you would be available for a phone call.

-Nicole Radziwill
Penn State NORML
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Turn Off Your TV: part 12
Date: 24 Jan 1993 09:54:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a post here Timothy Young characterizes this series as "TV as 
Leftist propaganda". I have just finished reading the original 
article. I find the criticism of TV (MTV in particular) as destructive
of reason, promoting behaviorial manipulation and control, exalting
ugliness as a value, promoting explicitly Satanic imagery, brainwashing
young children into an onsession with modern fashion, attacking
Judeo-Christian morality, and promoting the "drug-rock-counterculture".

Tell me, Tim, which of these criticized elements do you identify as
"leftist".

-Steve
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Ecuador:Doctors'Strike Continues
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:41:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:Nug1XB12w165w@nyxfer.uucp:1603308177:000:2175
Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nyt    Jan 26 22:41:00 1993


Subject: Ecuador:Doctors'Strike Continues
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

From el diario/La Prensa

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el Diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


Ecuadoran Doctors' Strike Continues

Government-employed Ecuadoran doctors continued their 
indefinite strike on Janury 20. The strike began on January 4. 
Meanwhile, the government is threatening to invoke the National 
Security Law to force them to fulfill their responsibilities. The
doctors are demanding the regulation of the Salary Law which 
would allow an increase in their salaries, but the government 
insists that the increase can only take place beginning in 1994. 
Only emergency patients are getting medical attention.

Health Minister Leonardo Viteri called on his fellow doctors
to put aside their stand and make the same sacrifices all 
Ecuadorans are making during the crisis. He also said salary 
increases would have a negative effect on inflation and endanger 
the entire country. The doctors project the financing of an $8 
million (16,000 sucres) increase through the reduction of the 
$750 million (1.5 billion sucres) foreign debt payment foreseen 
for 1993.

Viteri said President Duran Ballen is ready to expidite the 
regluation of the law once the doctors end the strike, but with 
the condition that the salary increase occur in 1994, which has 
been rejected by the doctors. National Medical Workers Federation
president Carlos Sanchez called on the government to keep up the 
dialogue, and suggested taht the salary increase could be 
progressive, to be paid on four parts. No agreement has been 
reached through the mediation of the church and the former 
presidents of the Medical Workers Federation. Nurses, 
obstetricians and dentists, as well as rural doctors, are 
threatening to join and strengthen the strike. (edlp 01/21/93 
from AFP)


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From: aforum@moose.uvm.edu (autonome forum)
Subject: PROPOSAL to creat alt.politics.radical-left
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:18:19 GMT

subject: support the creation of alt.politics.radical-left!!
posted by: autonome forum
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Proposal to Create alt.politics.radical-left

We would like to see the creation of alt.politics.radical-left,
an unmoderated newsgroup whose function would be to act as a
forum for news items and theoretical discussions dealing with
leftist politics, national liberation struggles, militant
resistance movements, etc. This newsgroup would, in some ways, be
a more radical-left version of groups such as
misc.activism.progressive, and would have a definite left-wing
political focus, unlike other alt-realm groups like alt.activism.

Again, there are, at present, no newsgroups in the alt-realm
which have, as their aim, the exchange of news items with a
radical-left focus. What's more, such news items are often hard
to come by. Therefore, the creation of alt.politics.radical-left
would fill a definite void and would be of great use to dozens of
progressive groups currently operating in Cyberspace. Also, as an
open group, it would allow other users with Usenet access to
become exposed to left-radical politics.

Discussion on the creation of this newsgroup is now beginning in
alt.config. We strongly encourage users to post messages of
support in alt.config so that alt.politics.radical-left can be
created as soon as possible!
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From: ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Free Publicity for Your Newsletter or Magazine
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:59:16 GMT

Free Publicity for Your Newsletter or Magazine

If you haven't already done so, you should write to each of the
following directories and ask them to add a listing for your
newsletter and/or magazine. All of them provide free listings,
and most can be consulted at major public or academic libraries.

 Editor
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 Newsletters in Print
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 telephone (212) 741-0231

 Editor
 The Serials Directory
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 Editor
 Ulrich's Directory of Periodicals
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 telephone (908) 665-2870
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If you would like to receive an International Standard Serial Number
(ISSN) for each of your periodicals, contact:

 National Serials Data Program
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 telephone (202) 707-6452
 (Publishers outside the U.S. should contact their country's national
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  ISDS Canada
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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Klan March in Newark DE
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:54:11 GMT

Hello
The Klu Klux Klan is going to March in Newark DE on February 27.
The old axiom that if you ignore the ass holes they will go away is
false.  They have recruited more skinheads and are coming back with a vengence
What is an effective way to counter them and the violence that they 
will bring. (We know this for a fact.)  The skins have nothing to loose
and will attack and kill (as has been shown in the past) anyone who is
not vanilla.  Any suggestions and correspondence are welcome.
Responses to seamus@brahms.udel.edu are preferable.
thanks peace and justice.

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender        Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
If you can't be good,             It just means use your imagination. 
be good at it.  T.B.   ASSIMILATION = ANNIHILATION     Billy Bragg 
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From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,misc.activism.progressive
Subject: Re: Greenpeace KILLS baby seals
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:18:08 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
Summary: Your finger is pointed at the wrong party.
In-reply-to: bdellert@nic.gac.edu's message of Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:36:43 GMT

> In the past month, 3 people have told me that Greenpeace
> sprayed baby seals with a dye, so trappers wouldn't kill
> them (their fur became useless).  But it turned out the
> dye was toxic and killed the baby seals.

=o= I believe the real problem was that the dye made the seals
more visible to their predators.  Amongst these predators were
the baby seal hunters, who killed them out of spite.

=o= Greenpeace discontinued the practice years ago.
    <_Jym_>
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From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.society.anarchy,alt.society.revolution
Subject: Re: Creation of alt.society.socialism
Date: 23 Jan 1993 20:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu


In article <1993Jan22.093910.24919@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> darice@yoyo.cc.monash
.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>After talking to a few people, I think there is a need for a socialism
>newsgroup -- alt.society.socialism.  What do others think?

Fred:

There are people working on alt.politics.radical-left right now, which should
include a lot of discussion of socialism, as well as other forms of
militant resistance.  If that sounds good enough for you, I recommend
you take a trip to alt.config and speak your mind.

Those of us posting socialist and other radical-left materials to the
net should find it to be an ample vehicle for socialist discussion to
the left of the Liberal discussions that dominate alt.activism and
misc.activism.progressive.

Paul Southworth                    |              ftp red.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 | zines, radical politics, news, fiction
Information Technology Division    |            IP Address:  141.211.182.91
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor  |              386BSD 0.1 Archive Server
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.society.anarchy,alt.society.revolution,alt.society,libertarian
From: dsouza@cwis.unomaha.edu (Henry D'Souza)
Subject: Re: Creation of alt.society.socialism
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:44:58 GMT
From: Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Libertarians and Labor Unions
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:00:38 GMT
 <1993Jan23.021457.7705@midway.uchicago.edu> 
 <C1C0yv.MKB@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <1993Jan25.191122.6794@desire.wright.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1993Jan25.191122.6794@desire.wright.edu>
demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:

> In article <C1C0yv.MKB@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young) writes:
> > In article <1993Jan23.021457.7705@midway.uchicago.edu>
> > sals@florimel.uchicago.edu (red-head fancier) writes:
> > 
> >> Huh?? The Libertarian party is always underfunded and most of their money  
> >> comes from individual donors.
> > 
> > Well, they'd have to have a good deal of money to regularly get on the
> > ballot in all 50 states. In many states, it's hard to get on the ballot
> 
> 	A) Volunteers.
> 
> 	B) 50 states has only been achieved in 1980 and 92, I believe.
> 
> >... 
> > In some ways, the fact that the Libs and Perot can break the two-party
> > monopoly is good. I think it's possible that we in the U.S. could be
> > moving toward a multi-party system.
> 
> 	As long as we don't get a parliamentary system.  I'd hate to see the
> "major" parties fighting over the nazi's 1 seat or the christian extremists 1
> seat or the communists 1 seat in order to get a working majority.

As long as we avoid a system of proportional represenation (like they
had in Weimar Germany and in some U.S. local governments [e.g.
Cambridge,MA]), that shouldn't be a tremendous problem. More care would
have to be exercised concerning Congressional redistricting, but it's
not a huge problem.


> 
> >  As far as I know, and I haven't seen any stats on this, the
> > Libertarian Party is comprised primarily of wealthy people who don't
> > want the government to stop them from doing harmful things (e.g.
> > environmental degradation) with their property.
> 
> 	Untrue.  If you don't have the stats, why make that assumption?
> 
 It seems that those who may need government help either now or some
point in the future would not be joining Libertarian ranks. I don't
think that's an irrational assumption. Ronald Reagan (I know he wasn't
a Libertarian, but he favored "small government" too) once said
something  about everyone having the right to be a millionare. It
doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to figure out 
that the right to be a millionare means next to nothing if you're
struggling to get by. (I'm just a college freshman, and I managed to
figure that out.)
The laws of the free market encourage irresponsible exploitation of the
environment .  This is one example of what government is for ; to
supplement market laws with a rational framework that prevents many of
the problems that the market itself cannot. 

Tim Young, Dartmouth College, Class of '96
The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of Dartmouth
College, its students, or anyone else.
"Not everyone can carry the weight of the world..." -R.E.M.
From: emcelroy@igc.apc.org (Eugene McElroy)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: IFCO ACTION ALERT ON BAEZA
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:22:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500487:000:2700
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!emcelroy    Jan 22 19:22:00 1993


From: Eugene McElroy <emcelroy>
Subject: IFCO ACTION ALERT ON BAEZA

                          ACTION ALERT
                            FROM IFCO
                           **********

     The Clinton Administration is intending to nominate MARIO
BAEZA for the position of assistant secretary of state for Inter-
American affairs (the position  currently held by Bernard
Aronson.)

     The Cuban American National Foundation in Miami has mounted
a campaign to stop this nomination. The CANF opposes Baeza
because he is not well-known in the Miami Cuban-AMerican
community and will not be susceptible to influence by the CANF.
In Miami, the Foundation attack on Baeza includes racism (Baeza
is Afro-Cuban) and red-baiting. The CANF has proposed its own
candidate from the extreme right wing, Simon Ferro.

     The nominee will most likely be named today or Monday. It is
critical to flood the State Dept. and the White House with calls
and letter of support for Baeza.

**STATE DEPT. PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIVISION
202-647-6575       202-647-0122 (FAX)

ADDRESS LETTERS TO SECRETARY OF STATE WARREN CHRISTOPHER

**WHITE HOUSE 
202-224-2237 (FAX) ADDRESS LETTERS TO PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON

SANDY BERGER (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY
AFFAIRS)   202-456-2883

                           **********

Senator Bill Bradley of NJ is playing a critical role in support
of the CANF candidate and in opposition to Baeza. Calls and
letter to his office, particularly from New Jersey residents, are
especially important.

SENATOR BILL BRADLEY  202-224-3244 (TEL)  202-224-8567  (FAX)


                           **********

1) SUPPORT THE NOMINATION OF MARIO BAEZA FOR UNDERSECRETARY OF
STATE FOR INTER-AMERICAN AFFAIRS.
     We have good reason to be optimistic that, over time,
Baeza's positions on Cuba will be far preferable to current
policies. Given current realities, Baeza represents the best we
can hope for and, in any case, is far preferable to any CANF
candidate.

2)CONDEMN THE UNDUE INFLUENCE OF THE CUBAN-AMERICAN NATIONAL
FOUNDATION ON US FOREIGN POLICY.
     This extreme right-wing group has history of support for
terrorist activities and extreme right wing causes, including
sport for the contras in Nicaragua, UNITA in Angola and terrorist
activities against Cuba.

The Congressional Black Caucus has already mobilized in support
of Baeza'a nomination. On the other hand, Congressman Robert
Torricelli strongly opposes Baeza--and Baeza lives in
Torricelli's district. This is another case of Torricelli
supporting the agenda of CANF (could it be the PAC money?) over
the interests of his own constituents.


FOR MORE INFORMATION, CALL IFCO AT 212-926-5757 OR 612-378-0062
From: dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Libertarians and Labor Unions
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:19:24 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1993Jan16.174034.7296@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
writes:
>       If you're allowed to non-violently obstruct a business, you can
>win.  Martin Luther King borrowed this tactic from the labor unions.
>Operation Rescue uses it today.

i was not aware that verbally and physically harassing abortion
providers and clients and bombing clinics are considered nonviolent.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker)
Subject: Re: Turn Off Your TV: part 12
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:44:03 GMT


Tim, thanks for your thoughtful reply, which I do not quote because
the software here makes quoting very difficult. My response is that 
we can certainly discuss what Judeo-Christian values are, whether they
are good or bad, and whether or not TV generally or MTV in particular
undermines them. This would all be worthwhile and interesting. I note
some odd juxtapositions in passing like cultural elite vs. corporate 
elite and morality vs. economics. I happen to think that the cultural
elite IS the corporate elite (Hint - who finances Murphy Brown). I also
believe that economic questions are moral and vice versa. 

My main gripe with your original post was that you seemed to be making
this a "left/right" thing. Unless you want to agree with Pat Robertson
and his ilk that the "right" has the franchise on traditional values,
morality, |CHristianity, etc., I'd say that that was a hasty and
somewhat careless characterization. I think that what TV has done to
our culture and our powers of reason is something the "left" and the
"right" can join in deploring. Perhaps if you had caught the installment
a week or two ago criticizing TV sports the ideological implications
might have seemed a bit different.

If you're interested, parts 1-8 are available for ftp at
red.css.itd.umich.edu under /poli/LaRouche. Plus John Covici,
who has been posting them, has back installments available to email.
Contact covici@ccs.covici.com

-Steve
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