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From: tfukunag@virus.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takuya Fukunaga)
Subject: Re: Long trip: Paris-Saigon
Organization: Institute of Research for Virus
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:27:43 GMT


I`ve been to Viet Nam and Laos last summer. I had have been long
preparing for it, asking Viet-Nam foreigne ministry or tourist so
many times, but they were in vain. I only had no reply from them.

Last summer, I took my chance. I took flight to Bang Kok,Thailand
anyway. There , in short, things went very easy.

You may get visa for Indochina countries like Viet-Nam, Laos and
Cambodia. The cost was US$60 to $100(Sorry I don`t have exact data
now. If you need, I may check it up in my travel-diary). And it takes
only 3 or 4days.

But caution, Viet-Nam visa issued in Bang-kok sometimes make troubles,
especially, when you enter at Hanoi. The visa issued in Bang-kok travel
agent will be stamped on the application paper not on passport. Travellers
says that makes the trouble. But I am not sure of it.

You plan great travel! Talking of me, I'll travel from Japan to Paris through
Beijing, Silk-road, Khazhakstan, Moscow , Balt-countries, Poland, Germany with
no use of aero-plane. 

Good luck!

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From: dude@losers.hacktic.nl (Dude)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Language problem in Europe
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:46:34 GMT
Organisation: losers inc.

In article <1993Jan23.114541.24904@kth.se>, Tord G.M. Malmgren writes:

TO>  you can get along by English in any of those cities, no problems. In
TO> Athens everybody's real nice, and don't seem to mind at all if you speak
TO> English as goes for Amsterdam. In Rome they might be a bit reluctant,
TO> but they're friendly most of the time. Just be prepared to meet some
TO> arrogance in Paris, though..

Well, be prepared to meet more than arrogance in Paris.. Be aspecially careful
in the metro, lots of pickpockets around. Don't let salesmen carrying plateaus
with stuff get too close to you. While they push the plateau against your body,
their hands explore your pockets. Also, a lot of older french people refuse
to speak english, even though they know the language. Other than that, it's an
OK city. In Amsterdam, don't go to the Zeedijk, it's better than it used to be,
but still not safe. A very romantic district in Amsterdam is the red light
district :-).
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From: ekaas@cs.sfu.ca (Erik Kaas)
Subject: Re: [USA] Renting a car when you're under 25 yrs old...
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:50:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.155250.10546@lth.se> kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:
>I wish to rent a car in Chicago at a time when I'll be 24 11/12...
>I've heard that the rental companies charge an exorbitantly higher
>rate for those under 25.  Is this true?  Is there any way to "get
>around" this?  Are there any reputable companies that don't do this?
>Is this unfair age discrimination?

This is true :-(

I called last week to rent a car in L.A., and the big companies (Avis, Hertz,
Budget) told me they don't rent cars to people younger than 25.

There are two companies that do rent cars: Thrifty and General (at least in 
L.A.), but you'll have to pay $10 (Thrifty) or $5 (General) PER DAY extra when
you're 24.

Good luck,

Erik KK
(hoping to be 25 soon, so I don't have to pay these f*^%$#$%n' $10 anymore)
-- 
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From: meryem@core.rose.hp.com (Meryem Primmer)
Subject: Re: Langkawi
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:47:26 GMT
Organization: East of the Sun & West of the Moon
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Glen Houghton (Glen_Houghton@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
: I was wondering if anyone has been in Langkawi. I am looking for somewhere
: nice in the Singapore, malaysia, Thailand area. I visited Phuket but found it
: a bit too touristy. Would like a nice beach to relax on and a little night
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: life as well. Any help is appreciated.
  ^^^^

Isn't this what tourists do?  :-)

Regards,
Meryem Primmer
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 08:02:24 MST
From: <ATJMO@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ground transport Toronto->Ottawa

Does anyone have any info on ground transportation between Toronto and
Ottawa?  Phone numbers?  If there are both buses and trains, is one more
efficient than the other?  More pleasant?  Any guesses on approximate cost?

Please reply to atjmo@acvax.inre.asu.edu

Thanks in advance.

-jane
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From: shawn@grok90.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Shawn Shealy)
Subject: Re: How/Where to see a shuttle launch
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:15:32 GMT

In article <9301221016.AA20624@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
>>My next trip to Florida appears to coincide with a shuttle launch 
>>and I'd welcome peoples comments on whether it is worth watching?

What is the shuttle launch schedule?

-shawn   :-)
From: ssrzakar@csres.cs.reading.ac.uk (M. S. Zakaria)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Scotland
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:56:17 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

How about taking a scenic drive from Edinburgh -> Perth -> Aviemore -> 
Inverness -> Fort Williams -> .......

The view is just superb especially when you reaches the Highlands and 'Loch'
areas. 


----
Shanudin Zakaria
m.zakaria@uk.ac.reading
From: pwg@sceptre.com (Pauline Griffith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Jamaica Wedding
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:33:04 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sceptre-gw.sceptre.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]



Hi!

We also honeymooned in Sandals Ocho Rios, and had a Blast!!  We were
there this past April.  I can't say what the weather would be like
in August, but I'd imagine that it would be HOT!!  

I will agree with the other poster who went to Ocho Rios that it is
a great deal, and a nice place.  The staff were very friendly and 
many make an attempt to know your name.  I was surprised how great
the service and food was.   (The maid made up our room twice a day.) 
The atmosphere is very relaxed and tropical.   There is something
there for everyone to enjoy, wether it be windsurfing (which I did
a lot of!),  sun bathing, drinking, eating or game playing.  They had
a couple of pools with swim up bars, but their actual beach area
is not as big as Negril's, I imagine.  When they built Sandals Ocho Rios, they
did their best not to remove any trees, keeping the lushness in tact.
You will see an occassional roof cut into to make way for a tall palm tree.

I was surprised at the variety of the clientele who went to Sandals.  
We met lots of couples who were married on the same day as us.  There
were also groups of couples who came down together.   Most everyone was
in their 20's, but some older folks as well.  

	I'd love to go down again!   
	-- Pauline

-----
 Pauline Walker Griffith                       Internet: pwg@sceptre.com
 Sceptre Corp.
 3626 West Liberty
 Ann Arbor, Michigan  48013
From: J093480@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: London accomodations advice needed
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:20:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: LMSC5.93027.37247.J093480
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

If you will be travelling to London during the Summer or early Fall months, I
can recommend a place.  Unfortunately, it isn't very conducive to couples
since almost all rooms have 1 single bed in them.  But if you're looking for
a bargain...here goes:

The place is called Ramsay Hall and it's located just off Tottenham Court
Road between the Warren and Goodge Street tube stations (in the Bloomsbury
district).  It is primarily a dorm/residence hall for students at the
University of London, but during vacation months, they rent to the public.

The accomodations are simple but satisfactory and clean.  Each room has a
bed, desk, wardrobe and in-room sink.  Bathrooms and showers are at the ends of
the halls.  Breakfast is included in the price.  I've stayed there on several
occasions and about a year ago, the cost was approximately 24 pounds per
night/per person.  It's very convenient and perfect for students travelling
abroad.

If you have any questions, e-mail me at the following:

J093480@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM

Cheers!

Sandy Ellsworth
From: pgybass@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (michael patrick swain)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: airline ticket:  buffalo to phoenix
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have one ticket for sale on Continental Airlines:

Buffalo, NY to Phoenix, AZ on Thurs. 25 February, male.

$150/BO.

michael swain
pgybass@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Vienna and Salzburg
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:00:44 GMT

some weeks ago, someone posted a long item about vienna ... which i've
promptly lost.  would the original author be so kind as to forward me
a copy of that item?

thanks,
--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
From: coker@artiste.sitka.sun.com (Barbara Caramba-Coker)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Jamaica Wedding
Date: 22 Jan 1993 21:45:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: coker@artiste.sitka.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: artiste.sitka.sun.com


Jamaica is very hot and muggy in August......  You'll want to change clothes several times a day!  Also be aware that the annual Reggae Sunsplash festival is generally the first week of August (or the last week of July);  this event brings in about 75,000 tourists to Jamaica's north coast so Montego Bay, Negril, & Ocho Rios tourist facilities get a bit taxed and every street hoodlum appears.

If staying at an all-inclusive spot like Sandals this may not be a concern.  Lots of folks go to these places and, once there, never leave to see the "real country" that they are visiting.  If that's what you want, you'll enjoy yourselves a great deal.
From: bsinger@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Beth Singer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Request info. on Holland
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:23:43 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

Hi.

I will be travelling to Holland for about 10 days, mid-March.  Any info. u can 
share re: must-see sites, food, & fun, would be most appreciated.

thanks, 
Beth
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From: jmwheele@world.std.com (John M Wheeler)
Subject: B+B getaway weekend in New England?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:17:07 GMT

We're looking for a Valentine's weekend getaway for two couples,
moderately priced, close to nature, B&B, somewhere in New England.
Activities may include hiking, sightseeing, relaxing.
Warm and comfy surroundings.
We're looking for an off-season, less expensive place (i.e. not ski
resorts) within distance of the ocean, but not more than 4 hours
drive from Boston.

Please help.
Thanks.

John Wheeler
jmwheele@world.std.com

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From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: Re: Pole To Pole on A&E
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:25:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.072132.1@adcalc.fnal.gov> linden@adcalc.fnal.gov writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Here in England we can get video copies of both "Around the World.." and 
>> "Pole to Pole" for a mere 20 pounds each.
>> 
>
>> remember, I think that the English and American video standards are different
>> so I don't know if they will work
>> 
>
>The standards are different. Europe uses the "PAL" standards.
>If you have a PAL TV and VCR you'll be ok.
>

Well, here in the US, they're selling copies of "Pole To Pole" for $70.00 US.
Comes in 4 videocassettes plus you get a free "Pole To Pole" travel bag!!
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..............
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: [USA] Renting a car when you're under 25 yrs old...
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:52:50 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

I wish to rent a car in Chicago at a time when I'll be 24 11/12...
I've heard that the rental companies charge an exorbitantly higher
rate for those under 25.  Is this true?  Is there any way to "get
around" this?  Are there any reputable companies that don't do this?
Is this unfair age discrimination?
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
From: jayaram@watson.ibm.com (Mohan Jayaram)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Scotland
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:23:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

I am planning to visit Scotland during the last week of April.		
Would someone be so kind to tell me what kind of weather I can
expect? I have a bunch of Travel guides but they are all pretty 
vague about the weather in April. I chose April to beat the 
tourist rush during summer. Thanks.
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From: fsbgf@acad3.alaska.edu (Brandon France)
Subject: Information on Western Russia
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:31:39 GMT

I need to get in touch with someone in the western side of Russia.  I
would imagine that to be Khabarosk.  Does anyone know of an internet
address in Khavarosk?  

Thanks,
Brandon France
fsbgf@acad3.alaska.edu
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From: eillib@cs.mcgill.ca (Bill FILLMORE)
Subject: Trip to Boston.....bars/clubs
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: rec.travel
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:59:07 GMT

	I am going to Boston this weekend and would like to find out
what to at night while I am there.  The days I have planned are pretty 
full but I would like to see a band/club/bar while there.....
any suggestions?
thanks,

bill

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From: proberts@compunet.uucp (Phil Roberts)
Subject: Re: Tips for celebrating B'day in Atlanta
Organization: CompuNet Systems, Louisville KY (502-231-5908 & 5910)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:08:32 GMT


Sivesh,

I also enjoyed the tour through the Coca-Cola Museum.  It is downtown
near the Underground.
-- 
                          ___________________________________
Phil Roberts             |   proberts@compunet.uucp
Louisville, KY           |   proberts@ky-ngnet.army.mil
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From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Hotels in London / Package Deals
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:01:29 GMT

 (MMCDANIE@UMAB.BITNET) wrote:
: Can anyone recommend hotels in London?  We're going in Mid-March.
: We're looking for cheap.  I know most hotel rooms are in the $200 range,
: which is too high.  Around $100/night for a double w/ or w/o private bath
: is what we want.

What about Youth Hostel ?

: 
: Second, how can I find out about package deals to London -- air, hotel,
: some meals, tours, BritRail pass, etc.?  I've gone through a local travel
: agent but they never get back to me!  Anything on-line (compuserve?) or
: easily available?
:

Try British Tourist Authority ... there are 4 of them in USA


george from Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Negril vs. Ocho Rios
From: tballew@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:25:13 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1993Jan20.152043.12920@cs.wisc.edu>, worrall@scrap.ssec.wisc.edu (Thomas Worrall) writes:
> Has anyone collected any of the various debates in this group about
> Negril vs. Ocho Rios.  We are finally going to take the plunge and
> can't decide where to go.
> 
> My impression is that Ocho is a real city, with real culture, real dirt
> and real problems, while Negril is mainly a tourist place, cleaner, more
> beautiful and more isolated from Jamaican culture.
> Is there any inkling of truth in my unlearned impression?  Is there
> anything to do, outside the resort walls, in Negril?  Ocho?
> 
> And where's the best place to look for those wonderful small label 
> reggae recordings? (e.g. King Jammy label)
> 
> Thanks gobs for any response!
> 
> -- 
> Thomas Worrall				      Internet:    worrall@ssec.wisc.edu
> Space Science and Engineering Center	      SSEC Novell: ThomasWorrall
> 1225 West Dayton			      Tel. 608-263-2566
> University of Wisconsin, Madison 53706	      Fax  608-262-5974

Howdy: The impressions I've gotten from speaking to people who have
travelled to both destinations seem to bear out your impressions as
well. I am flying in to Montego Bay on 3.18, and plan to head to Ocho
Rios. I have no reservations for accomodations yet, but plan to make
them ASAP with the idea of staying as inexpensively as possible. 
	I may be able to provide more info soon on whattodo.-- 
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From: gilbert@megadata.mega.oz.au (Gilbert Cavedon)
Subject: Re: OZ: Info on Kings Canyon Park
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:33:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.153426.294@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au>, ross@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au writes:
> In article <1993Jan15.141123.2201@delos.stgt.sub.org>, stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold) writes:
> > Hi !
> > 
> > I'm interested in visiting the Kings Canyon Park in Australia "near"
> > Alice Springs. Is it possible to get there by normal car or do you
> > have to use a 4WD ?
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > Stefan
> > -- 
> > + Stefan Bechtold # stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org # Voice +49 711 813240 +
> > ++++++++sed nemo potuit tangere: merda fuit ! (Martial III 17)+++++++++
> 
> G'day!
> 
> It certainly is possible to get there by car.  I went to King's Canyon
> as part of a school bus trip about 10 years ago.  It was dirt track
> most of the way, but in dry weather that wasn't too much of a problem.
> 
> [etc...]

G'day

I was in central Australia three weeks ago, and I went from Ayer's Rock
to Kings Canyon and then to Alice Springs. You will have to go through around
100 km of dirt road wherever you are coming from. A four wheel drive is not
necessary if the road is dry. Actually, even with a four wheel drive, it is
not recommended to drive through dirt roads after rain, you damage them a lot,
and the chance to get bogged is very high. The last 100 kms or so are sealed
but I found that the dirt road was in poor condition. It is very corrogated
due to the large number of tourist coaches passing through. I will suggest
you to carry more than one spare wheel if you want to go there with your own
car. Loose stones on the road may puncture a tyre easily. Carry enough water
(at least 10 litres) because your engine may overheat. You will find petrol on
the Stuart Highway and in Kings Canyon. There are quite a lot of cars passing
through that road, and I don't think it is necessary to advise the police.
In remote areas, everybody will stop if you have any trouble.
If you plan to rent a car, I don't know if they will let you go through unless
it is a four wheel drive. There are tours going from Alice or Ayer's Rock to
Kings Canyon.

As Sue was pointing out in the last post. It is advisable to check the roads
condition at the local police station before starting your trip. 

It's a really nice place to see. There is a very good waterhole where you can
have a swim after walking a couple of hours.

Gilbert.

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From: ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("")
Subject: Re: European food prices?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:47:49 GMT

Matthew Raymond Flatt  writes:
> I'm planning to tour parts of Europe this summer, and I'm trying to
> figure out how long I can afford to stay. Food prices are the only area
> where I have know idea how to estimate.
> 
> I plan to eat cereal or something comparable in the morning, a sandwich
> at noon, and a medium-to-large meal in the evening. (This is easily
> covered by $15/day here in Pittsburgh, PA, USA.)
> 
> The countries I'll probably visit are: England, France, Germany,
> Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Switzerland. Info on other countries
> is more than welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matthew


I toured Scandinavia this summer, and food there is on average twice
as much as in the US.  It's much less, though, in countries
like Spain and Italy.  A recent issue of "The Economist" listed
price comparisons for various basic foods in various European
countries -- check the most recent issues at the library.

One great suggestion:  my brother and I subsisted for three
weeks on bread with something called Nutella on it, jelly,
cheese, diet soda, milk occasionally, and fruit.  (Nutella is the
food of the gods -- you WILL be hooked.)  We traveled, had fun
AND lost six or seven pounds!!  :-)

Good cereal is pretty scarce, unless you like puffed rice and
Corn Flakes, and is therefore expensive.  Most places charge
twice or three times the US price for cereal -- you'd better
get used to bread.  Again, try the Nutella!!!


Erik Velapoldi
ejv2j@virginia.edu
(804)979-8319
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From: steve@oceania.com
Subject: Re: Index to rec.travel archive (FAQ)
Reply-To: steve@oceania.com
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:11:10 GMT


Regarding the rec.travel archive, I'd simply like to say:

Excellent job, Brian!  and everyone who has contributed to the archive.

Keep up the good work.

=Steve
-- 

          Steve Dakin           |  Oceania Health Care Systems
 steve@oceania.com (NeXT mail)  |  Palo Alto, CA  (415) 322-0127
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From: guthrie@nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Subject: Re: whale sighting tours
Organization: Rockwell International
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:16:42 GMT


Usually the Local Newspaper or your hotel can tell you about places to go.
My husband is highly motion sick so we don't frequent boats.  Out on the
water I would at least take a down jacket or similar wrap a ski cap and
gloves.  Better safe than sorry.

Karen
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