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From: danw@sierra.com (Dan Williams - Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: IS Superman dead??
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:50:25 GMT
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa

>Superman is essentially a solar battery. Presumably, Doomsday was able to
>kill him because he used up his energy reserves. (And perhaps the same thing
>happened to Doomsday.) If so, where is the energy coming from to keep him
>invunerable?
>
I still say the worst thing you can do to a solar powered being is lock him
underground away from the sun while he tries to heal. 

>There is also the off-handed comment that the wounds inflicted by Doomsday have
>healed. This presumable happened before he died. Yet freshly dead body surely
>looked wounded at the end of Superman #75.
>
Have you compared Superman's appearances through FfaF series.  {The body,
not the flashbacks}  He is definitely healing.  His neck is no longer at
the awkward angle and his wounds are closed.  

>My guess is that DC is introducing four NEW super-heroes. They will either
>think they are Superman or will take up the name of Superman in his honor.
>Eventually, when DC has decided that the new characters are strong enough for
>their own books, Superman will "arise" out of whatever deathlike coma he's in.
>(Which is basically one of the very first resurrection schemes seen on this
>newsgroup.)
>
DC plans to introduce a number of new characters in this Summer's annuals.
These introductions will be a precursor to an explosion of new titles for 
us to buy.  Introducing four new heros in the Super-titles is probably the
first salvo of these new heros. 

By the way I think DC is going back to some pre-crisis titles.  We have
just seen Barry Allen return from the dead.  In a quiet un marketed way
totally unlike Superman's demise and soon to return.

Of the four new heroes we know about I am most interested in the teen aged
Superman clone.  We may be seeing the return of Superboy.  Let's petition
D.C. to let the Kent's raise him.  Then he can start working with the
Legion of Super-Heroes again.
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From: billian@exchanger.ecn.purdue.edu (Mark W. Billian)
Subject: Re: Eternal Warrior/A&A question
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:27:36 GMT

I was also wondering where Ivar came from.  I think that his time travel
abilities could really prove useful to the folks at Valiant with the
wide span of time between the two main setting for ther books.

For all those whose like to nit pick on Image errors, but think Valiant is
perfect;  when did this story take place?  The first date block has the year
as 1661, while most of the rest of the tale uses 1659.  Just thought I'd clue
you all in that even with strict editorial control no one is perfect.

I was also wondering how much was changed from the original Three Musketeers
story since I've never read it.

Mark B.
From: mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu (Mark (MacBear) McConnell)
Subject: Re: Iris Allen & LSH
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:15:34 MDT

In article <C182Ar.8v5@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway) writes:
> In article <1jmuoeINN3g2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank) writes:
>> You know, I've been thinkin'. . .(and my head hurts). Wasn't Iris
>> from the 25th century? Could somebody check their old Flash collection
> 
> Nope, Prof. Zoom, the Reverse-Flash, was from the 25th (or maybe the 24th;
> anyway, somewhere in that vicinity) century. Iris was established as being
> from the 30th.

By the way, Prof. Zoom's name was Eobard Thayne <sp?>.  It always 
struck me as unusual that a character had a codename for his
codename. (Thayne-Zoom-Reverse Flash).

Worthless info for an interesting topic.  (info? THIS belongs in RACI)

mam
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: News about HEPCATS
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:27:37 GMT

In <C15BoM.9tI@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>It is a sort of soap opera comic with the main characters
>being anthromorths. There are four main character three of
>which are males and the other is naturally a female. The
>three males Joey, Arnie and Gunthar are best friends and
>Arnie is going out with the female Erica. Thats all I can
>say without giving away a lot. It has really nice B&W art
>and well written stories. I definately recommend it.

That's a pretty good summary; my own subjective review would be that, while
in the same vein as OMAHA (though less undress, I believe), the writing
isn't as good.  The art, however, has improved a couple of milestones from
early issues.

                  Selections from TOP 10 THINGS OVERHEARD ON THE
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From: jhildebr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Update about upcoming issues.
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:43:59 GMT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.

In article <1993Jan25.223553.29742@news.nd.edu> mkelly@ovid.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:
>Oh Puh-lease! (Hey...if I gave PAD a 'puh-lease' NG deserves one too ;) If 
>he didn't want us looking in the OED, he shouldn't have used it...or maybe
>he should just check the OED before naming characters from it.

	The problem wasn't that someone looked it up. The problem was that
someone posted it without spoiler warnings. Extremely different situation,
at least to my mind.

-Jeff


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From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Subject: Re: Martian Manhunter
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:03:03 GMT


modrall@world.std.com (Mark W Modrall) writes:

>in DC Presents #26(?) the one with the first new titans giveaway,
>superman and GL team up when some space goon steals GL's ring...
>Superman pushes the battle far away from earth, you see a huge flash
>of light, and superman comes back with the unconscious space goon...
>GL is astonished... "you... you... beat the ring?" and superman says
>"sure, i'm superman"... one punch...

..though not without a bit o' worrying when the space goon created a
huge hunk o' green KRYPTONITE with the ring.  if I recall, the only reason
Supes got out of THAT one was that the depowered Jordan hit the space goon
with a rock.

so much for pathos.

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From: wrighd2@aix.rpi.edu (Douglas Albert Wright)
Subject: Malibu-  Protectors
Summary: new series is real good
Keywords: new series from malibu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:35:27 GMT

Has anybody seen the new series from Malibu, called the Protectors.
I bought issues 3 and 4 and sent for back issues of 1 and 2.
I thought it was excellent.  It reminded me of the Avengers and the JLA
when both of these teams were in their prime (IMO).  I liked
especially, the characters, and the story. I found the price
a bit high though (2.50  or 1.95 newstand).  Any comments?

Doug Wright
wrighd2@rpi.edu
From: danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Iris Allen & LSH
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:49:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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In article <C16r47.Kpx@panix.com> carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink) writes:

>  Sure.  It was established way back at the end of the Silver
>Age Flash's series that his wife, Iris Allen, was really a time
>traveller from the future.
>
You know, I've been thinkin'. . .(and my head hurts). Wasn't Iris
from the 25th century? Could somebody check their old Flash collection
about this? Mine's in Houston and I'm in Austin. Just wonderin'.
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Monty Python's Life of MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: A Problem(tm)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:41:11 GMT
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In article <C1E33u.Bso@cmcl2.nyu.edu> silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage) writes:
>Ok, here's the problem:  I *finally* got my computer to notice that I
>had a sig file (my mail program wants .sig, this wants .signature, I
>have a nervous breakdown  :).  So what happens? I post some stuff, then
>I leave the news program, and I find some mail waiting: none of my posts
>were posted, because sig's can only be 4 lines.  So I come back here,
>and find that 1- my posts *were* posted, and 2- most sig's were longer
>than 4 lines, like I thought.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
>
Over here, they can only be 8 lines.  Anything extra gets chopped off.

Don't worry.  Sometimes my computer refuses to accept a post if there's
more old stuff than new stuff.  Thing is, it does this extremely irregularly,
and hasn't done it since December.

--MikE...of course, now that I mention it, it'll refuse THIS article.  

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From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Image..., sigh!
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:58:00 GMT
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1) Has Anyone besides me noticed that "Spawn" is teh only image title
coming out on some regular sort of basis?

2) Do you realize that, for all the knocks, bashes and insults hurled
at McFarlane, he's the only Image "creator" who thought his concept
out?

It seems that he has Spawn planned until the umpteenth issue!  Books
like Brigade, Youngblood and Wildcats are slow in coming out and hard
tough to follow.

Maybe that was the Image people's problem with Marvel, they had
deadlines!

- Darin

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From: jdelisle@loyola.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Defiant looks interesting...
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:07:00 GMT
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In article <C1Ix4A.LE2@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, andrew@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Walker) writes...
> 
>On another point I have heard people saying that Valiant have gone downhill
>ever since Shooter left. Does anyone agree? Personally, I have only just
>started buying Valiant titles, and I like most of them, particularly
>Archer and Armstrong.

	I think Valiant has gone downhill. When Shooter left, they had to 
spread their writers pretty thinly, and promoted a few "Knobs" to writer
status, so the writing wasn't as good. Things are picking up, with some "new"
writers coming in (like Hall and Ostrander). A&A is the best Valiant title, 
too, IMNSHO.

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From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: MISC:  Missed Deadlines
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:38:48 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>Assuming (hoping) it ever comes out, the grand master
>> of late shipment will be Wagner's _Mage II_.  Every
>> so often I pull out my copy of Mage #15 + read the
>> blurb "Mage II, coming in Summer 1987"...
>>
>>Anyone later than that?

Well, Matt Wagner gets a second nomination for Batman vs. Grendel, which I saw
an ashcan for at a New York convention about 2 years ago.  We've been promised
this damn thing ever since.

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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: Sandman/Gaiman work
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:23:32 GMT

cjett@s850.mwc.edu (conroy v. jett) writes:
> Elizabeth Holden (panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca) wrote:
> > > 
> > Has Sweeny Todd come out in a collected version yet?
> 
> Nope.  Only the first installment of Sweeny Todd has appeared in Taboo
> #7.  That was the last issue of Taboo that has been released.

Not only that, but it will NOT be collected for at least four years or
so.  Taboo is published on a quarterly schedule (in theory, anyway),
and Sweeney is scheduled to run about 12-13 episodes.  They're making
a big deal about it not being collected in any other form, so if you
want to read it, buy Taboo.  It's well worth it....

> > Gaiman did only one issue of Hellblazer, right?
> 
> Yep, #27.
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From: <RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Squadron Supreme
Distribution: usa
 <1993Jan23.043844.14864@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <lm33gsINNdp3@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>

I remember seeing one of those tiny ads in one comics letter columns for the
Squadron Supreme maxi series.

What you saw was only black silluettes (how the hell do you spell?) with
characters who looked like Superman (in the front of course) and Batman
(Nighthawk or whatever his name was looked just like him in silluette), a
guy with wings who must've been Hawkman (sorry, I forgot the SS names) and a
guy with a ring that appeared to glow or radiate (the Green Lantern
counterpart).

What was really strange was that I just glanced at the ad and thought
Squadron Supreme, yah yah, just Superman and the gang in another group
besides JLA and then wham!  I remembered I was reading a letter column in a
Marvel Comic!

So the Squadron was actually ADVERTISED as a JLA ripoff too!  (not that I
didn't like it though)
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman Thoughts!!!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:11:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
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arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) says:

>>>    As soon as God created the first angel, the side effect of that one
>>>    act was all the Endless coming into existence.

>Isn't it mentioned somewhere in Sandman that all beings will die, with Death
>the last one to do so?
>
>If so, then nothing we recognize as God can exist, since God is supposed to be
>immortal in a rather strong sense.

OR it's possible that God is not a "being" of this
 universe in way we can recognize.  I assume God to
 be rather beyond the confines of time, space or
 language.
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From: april@athena.cs.uga.edu (April Gutierrez)
Subject: Re: Sandman - Bring on the C's
Followup-To: april@athena.cs.uga.edu
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:57:53 GMT

hmmmm....

How about these:

Dream = Corporeal (Corporeality)
Destiny = Chance
Delirium = Clarity


just some suggestions...

april

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From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Subject: Wanted (Info): Jack of Hearts appearances
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:50:03 GMT
Keywords: Jack of Hearts

Hi there.  If any kind soul out there in net-land
has access to a database listing all or most of 
Jack of Hearts' comic book appearances, I'd be
grateful for the info.

Thanks in advance!

Jeff 
jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: xyzzy@imagen.com (David McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman - Bring on the C's
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:00:55 GMT
Organization: IMAGEN

In article <1993Jan25.133711.22757@isunix.cdx.mot.com> Chagnon_A@msm.cdx.mot.com (Andrew Chagnon) writes:
>After following the recent 'flip side to the Endless", I thought it would be
>interesting to come up with the alternate names for the Endless, given what
>we've seen so far...
>
>Destruction - Creation or Change (from all over Brief Lives)
>Death       - Conception         (present at every birth?)
>Destiny     - Choice             (not pre-ordained? I get to choose?)
>Dream       - Consciousness (sic?) (all right..I'm stretching)
>Delirium    - Control            (I think I just snapped)
>
>Any help on the remaining Endless?

Desire       - Chagrin (reaching about as far as you)
Despair      - Chance  (ditto)

And I can't remember the last one offhand.


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From: lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer)
Subject: Re: Death #1 comments
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:16:47 GMT

In article <C16MC6.F1x@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>
>
>Makes sense to me.  I definitely see Dream they way I want.
>I just go for those dark haired, skinny-butt types.
>Okay, so he's an anthropomorphic personification with a 
>bad track record in the relationships department, but a girl
>can (heh) dream, can't she?
>
You're weird girlfriend,but I like you.


>
>>"A man's science is another man's magic; 
>> for all I know, Merlin was a physicist."
>
>	 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Mac Guyver quote, or just me?
>
No, I think you're right. Yet another thing we have in
common.

>LJC


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From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN - old/new questions
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:16:32 GMT

In article <30818@castle.ed.ac.uk> eusl01@castle.ed.ac.uk (L Edwards) writes:
[...]

>(1) What are we meant to take from the fact that Destruction has abandoned
>his realm for the last 300 years? When this first came up in the comic, I
>thought it would have been neat if he had vanished in 1945 - when the
>potential for complete destruction arrived on Earth ie Destruction was
>completely unregimented.
>But nothing so significant happened 300 years. It wasn't the advent of
>total war; and the arrival of arbitrary violence, serial killers and the
>like is more an urban 20th century phenomenon. What happened in the late
>17th century? It seems clear that destruction's absence hasn't made the
>world a kinder place. So I can only interpret it as a mechanism for
>describing change or violence which is in some way unregulated.

What about the Industrial Revolution?  Destruction is also the bringer of
change, and nothing has brought as much change to Earth in the last
Millenium or so than the Industrial Revolution. (Boy, I can see the
arguements that this is going to start...)


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From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Sandman -- Brief Lives 7
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:40:54 GMT

rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

> They spent
>quite a bit of time on Orpheus's island, and this may account for the
>difference in arrival time.


Hmm, maybe something happened during the time they stood on the grave?

Just a thought.  Destruction might not know about the earlier deal
with Lady Johanna since it was after he'd left ...

Wonder how much Barnabas knows about Destruction?  Would you want
Destruction of the Endless waving a knife at you?

later, david
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From: lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer)
Subject: Re: costumed vigilantes
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:43:09 GMT

>
>> Neil Gaiman has wondered when people will just start dressing in
>> superhero costumes, just for fun, or as a fashion statement, and just
>> walk around wearing them.
>

I don't know about superhero costumes, but I just saw my first
"death-clone" today.

Cathy the .sigless

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