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> ->    Wasn't Spinal Tap a BRITISH rock group?   
> 
> No.


Well, yes AND no.  The actors were American (Christopher Guest, for one, and
I at least THINK he's American), but the characters they portrayed were
British, and Spinal Tap was supposed to have been part of the original
"British Invasion" of the 60s, in their previous, B.H.M. (Before Heavy Metal)
incarnation (for example, their completely forgettable hit, "Listen to the
Flower People" :-)).

Either that, or there is absolutely NO reason for these guys to be running
around with these RIDICULOUS pseudo-Brit accents! :-)


Bob Myers            | "Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but  
myers@fc.hp.com      |  most of the time he will pick himself up and continue."
                     |                        - Winston Churchill
Organisation: Serco Space Ltd. @ ESOC
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 16:51:17 CET
From: Jon <JBEST@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject:    Quoting prior posts

You know how much I hate to whinge (!) but could people restrain themselves
a bit when they quote from earlier posts? I realise that depending on your
net feed you might need some references to indicate what it's all about,
but quoting lengthy posts (7, 8, + screens?) just to give about two screens
worth of comments is a bit excessive....

I'd have thought that at least a one-to-one ratio between quotes and new
stuff wouldn't be too unreasonable!

   Jon
From: ICSAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET (Allen French)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: 78 RPM Recorder/Record Player?
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:55:17 GMT

I wanted something to play old 78 records, so I bought what looked to
be a 78 rpm record player, but it also has a second wider arm and what
looks to be a record position! There is no needle in the second arm, so
I am not sure how it was supposed to work. The suitcase is basically a
wood box with a four-tube amplifier, turntable, speaker, and microphone(!)
inside. It says Burkaw Electric Co, New York U.S.A.

Was this designed to record on thin acetate records? I have seen an Edison
machine many years ago that would do this.

The amplifier works in the PA mode, but I can't get any sound from the
"astatic" cartridge and various needles. I even tried to connect the
cartridge directly to my phono input on my stereo, but still no sound.

Could the cartridge be completely bad? Any ideas how I might get this
to work enough to hear 78 records?

Allen
*ASU disagrees*
From: xifang@admin.ogi.edu (Xifang Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: A Thrill For Numismatists
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:02:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.35977
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute of Science and Technology Admin, Beaverton OR


         I have an ancient Chinese coin which is more than 2,000 years
  
       old (about 2,500 years old). It is knife-shaped, about 6 inches
 
       long and 1 inch wide. It is quite unique and wonderful for 

       personal or other sort of collection. I have to sell it even if

       I am quite reluctant to do so because I have cherished it for 

       so long.

         It is really a thrill for numismatists. Why not ask for a

       picture of it right now? Send a message, make an offer, and then

       it will be yours.

                         Phone (503)690-1090
From: mike@cc.gatech.edu (W. Michael McCracken)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Evaluating Art Pottery
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:26:49 GMT
Reply-To: mike@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Software Research Center, Georgia Tech.


Last night I was watching the baseball game and rereading a book I've had 
for a couple of years.  I had forgotten that it had some good sections on 
evaluating objects from the Arts and Crafts Movement.  The book is 
The Official Price Guide to Collecting Arts and Crafts, by Bruce Johnson.
For those folks who have been asking about evaluating art pottery 
(in particular Rookwood), one of the sections is on art pottery.  
In it, David Rago explains
how to better understand what makes a good pot and a not so good pot.  He 
goes through pots in general, and then focuses on several of the more dominant
makers.  The book is cheap and it may help better understand what I have been
trying to say (translate that to a more knowledgeable and better author).

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: ccw8u@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Carl Christian Wuellner)
Subject: Re: Cleaning rusted steel ?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:55:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.143150.26245@cbnewse.cb.att.com> parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) writes:
>In article <6APR199209200691@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
>g5rsn@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert S. Nerem (Steve)) writes:
>
>> ... Can any of you netters out there give me some advice on
>> the easiest way to clean the rust off of these steel parts?
>
>
>I use "Liquid Wrench" and steel wool to remove rust from steel, but
>my wife uses a German-made paste sold in cutlery stores for cleaning
>knives. You can buy it under the "Metal Glo" name for $2.99 for a 1.75
>ounce tube from:
>
>	Smoky Mountain Knife Works
>	PO Box 4430
>	Sevierville, TN 37864
>
>-- 
>==============================================================================
>Bob Parnass, AJ9S - AT&T Bell Laboratories - att!ihlpm!parnass - (708)979-5414

One product my parents used to use--interestingly, also German-made--was a
paste in a tube sold under the brand name Simichrome (my parents used to run
an antiques shop).  It seemed to be their favorite polish for just about
any type of metal.

Carl Wuellner
University of Virginia
ccw8u@poe.acc.virginia.edu
From: aperez@caribe.prime.com (Arturo Perez x6739)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Brimfield Fair
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:31:50 GMT
Distribution: usa

martha@gvlf7-d.gvl.unisys.com writes:
: 
: Does anybody know what the May dates are for the Brimfield fair?
: 

Brimfield starts April 28th.

Go early and often!

Arturo Perez
ComputerVision, a division of Prime
aperez@cvbnet.prime.com
Too much information, like a bullet through my brain -- The Police
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: John Weiler
Subject: Re: Stereoptican found....
Reply-To: jww64@cas.org
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:09:54 GMT

Your "stereoptican" is properly termed a "stereoscope"; a true stereoptican is a
type of magic lantern device.  However, the confusion in terminology has been
around for at least a century.  Turn of the century stereoscopes can often be
had for $60-$80, but occasionally it's possible to pick up a real nice one for
less.  Stereo views are widely available at antique shows and shops, flea
markets, antique malls, estate sales and public auctions, and the like.

There's also a strong market for stereo views among serious collectors, who
usually join the National Stereoscopic Association.  Besides publishing a
profusely illustrated bimonthly magazine, this non-profit organization has an
annual convention every year featuring a large trade fair, at which there are
tens of thousands of stereo views for sale.  Last year's convention was held
in San Antonio TX; this year's will be August 14-16 in Ft Wayne IN, and the
1993
convention will be in San Diego CA.  Prices will range from hundreds of dollars
for especially desirable images to a dollar or less, even for quite interesting
views.

Included with the magazine are mail/phone auction ads, which is another way to
acquire stereographs once you've gained some experience at collecting and get a
good appreciation of pricing.  Last year Wallace-Homestead published a book by
John Waldsmith titled "Stereo Views - An illustrated History and Price Guide",
which you will probably find very useful.

Membership in the NSA costs $22 per year - if you or any other readers are
interested, please email your postal mailing address and I'll send you a
membership application (I'm NSA secretary).
                                                                               I
hope you find some great views to add to your collection!

John Weiler (jww64@cas.org)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Q: Burning Hessians
From: jfinn@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:50:10 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Anyone know anything about Hessians? For twenty or thirty years my family has
owned a set of fireplace tools with painted Hessian handles.  Last year my
wife and I acquired a set of matching Hessian andirons (sp?) that also appear
old. Since then we have sometimes seen other sets of Hessian andirons, all
apparently old, all in different styles--some face front on, others, like ours,
are marching off to one side. 

We'd greatly appreciate any information about these Hessians?  Weren't they
Germam mercanaries fighting on the U.S. side in the Revolutionary War? Wouldn't
it make more sense to burn (symbolically :-)) Tories?

Thanks!

John E. Finn

Xref: sparky rec.antiques:618 rec.collecting:3185
From: fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Chris the wonder Scout)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques,rec.collecting
Subject: lotsa stuff for trade/sale!
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:55:55 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I COLLECT/TRADE:
Scout stuff, coins, stamps, some license plates, flags, military insignia,
NASA insignia


MY DAD COLLECTS: Swords, Civil War memorabilia and police insignia


I HAVE FOR SALE OR TRADE FOR SOMETHING ELSE I'M INTO:
Australian key fobs, baseball caps, bumper stickers, a lot of license plates,
comic books, football/sports memorabilia, matchbox cars
********************************************************************************especially looking for items from Eastern Europe:  Scout Insignia, stamps,
coins, license plates, flags, military insignia, space program insignia,
police insignia, pen pals
********************************************************************************
From: bkb@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (brian.bebeau)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Rookwood pottery
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:28:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Apr6.162850.17626
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr3.201337.221@cbnews.cb.att.com> gwb@cbnews.cb.att.com (gregory.blum) writes:
>I've been very informally collecting Rookwood pottery for a number of
>years now, and have rather a large amount of it accumulated.  However,

Congratulations! 

>A lot of it comes down to valuing things... what the heck criteria do
>you use?  Unlike most of the other big name pottery lines (Weller, Roseville,
>etc.), I've never seen a price guide to the stuff, not even the production
>ware.  

Rookwood IS becoming a big name. The prices have skyrocketed in the last
couple years, with no slowdown in sight. Many small collectors are being
squeezed out of the market.

I suspect the Cincinnati Museum of Art would have quite a bit of information
on Rookwood, you might want to try contacting them.

>And why have prices started to move up so much just recently?  I've noticed
>kind of an amazing upward price movement around this area, especially on
>the production pieces from around 1910-30.  Is this a nationwide trend? Is
>there a reason for it?

Probably because the last few years have seen a rediscovery of American
Arts and Crafts. More and more people are appreciating things like 
bungalows, Craftsmen furniture, and other aspects of the Arts and Crafts
movement. Pottery is one area, and Rookwood was a leader in its time.
Along with Pewabic in Detroit, and a few glass makers in Zanesville, OH
among others the Midwest was pretty well represented in this area.
Yes, it's a nationwide trend, and the prices are probably going to get 
higher for a while yet. If you go to Cincinnati, have dinner in the Rookwood
pottery kilns (it's a glorified hamburger joint now). The foods ok,
and the display cases have some wonderful Rookwood pieces to look at 
while you're waiting. My wife is from Cincinnati and I've always suspected
I'll have to move there someday. I hope when I do I can buy one of those
houses that has a Rookwood fireplace (or two).


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Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: cfwpm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Bill McGown)
Subject: Nabisco Toytown Cards
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:14:21 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University


My wife and I were cleaning out an old box of junk (?) and ran into
a big stack (100+) of Nabisco Toytown color and cut out cards. These
were the ones that came in Shredded Wheat ca. 1950. There were 36
different cards varying from a Punch and Judy Show Tent to Wild 
Animal show beasts. There was also another series that featured
houses and buildings called Toytown. We must have about 30 of these
as well. 

Any idea whether these things are collectible now and if so what 
they might be worth.

Thanks.... Bill



-- 
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W. P. (Bill) McGown                     Eastern Ill. Univ
cfwpm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu                   Psychology Department
                                        Charleston, Il. 61920
From: peggys@Wyeast.TEKTRONIX.COM
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: ROOS CEDAR CHESTS
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:01:33 GMT
Reply-To: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Manufaturing, Tektronix,Inc

Someone posted several weeks ago asking for info on Roos Cedar Chests...I
have since discovered that my grandmother's chest is a Roos.  I would like this
person to contact me and perhaps I could provide them with some info.


					Peggy

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Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 11:55:35 -0400 
From: "Carol A. Buckner" <cb30+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Frying pan/communion set

This is my first post to the net.  Hope it's appropiate.

My sister & I have just begun within the last year to collect antique items.

I have an old small iron frying pan.  It is obviously handmade and has a
hand- carved "93" on the bottom. If this is the date, it has to 1893.  I
got it from an 90 year old lady last year who said that her mother got
it as a wedding gift and passed it on to her.

My sister has a very old wooden communion set.  It has six little wine
glasses, a wine bottle with stopper (stopper is wooden too) and a plate.
 It looks hand- molded.  We don't know what kind of wood it is.  We just
know that it is old.  We got it from the same 90 year old lady.  She has
no information about it, but has had it as long as she can remember.

We live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and are wondering if there are any
reputable places to get these appraised?  Any suggestions as to how to
find out if these items are worth anything would be appreciated.
 


Carol Buckner
Carnegie Mellon University 
            
"People walk into your life, usually uninvited, move it around as if it
were furniture, and then walk out again."-- from British Sitcom, Solo
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: g5rsn@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert S. Nerem (Steve))
Subject: Cleaning rusted steel ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:20:00 GMT

I just bought an antique sled. It is all wood except for the steel 
runners and a few steel braces. The steel is quite rusted, so I
plan to remove the steel parts and clean them. My problem is, I
don't know how! I've cleaned up brass before, but steel is new
for me. Can any of you netters out there give me some advice on
the easiest way to clean the rust off of these steel parts?

Thanks!
                  Steve Nerem

Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick)
Subject: Re: Cleaning rusted steel ?
Organization: Random, at best
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:06:17 GMT

rbb@cs.brown.edu (Robert Baynes) writes:
>
>I spent a LOT of time in the Navy. When we needed something to
>clean rust we used Coca Cola. It is cheap and seems to work
>on most items very well....

Umm... not naval jelly? :-)

   But seriously, Coca Cola is carbonic acid.  So is seltzer water.
Carbon Dioxide dissolved in water is acidic.  It's a relatively mild
acid, but just about any acid will remove rust.  Vinegar works too.
From: xifang@admin.ogi.edu (Xifang Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: A Thrill For Numismatists
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:45:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36158
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute of Science and Technology Admin, Beaverton OR


      =================================================================   
         I have an ancient Chinese coin which is more than 2,000 years
                                                                        
       old (about 2,500 years old). It is knife-shaped, about 6 inches
 
       long and 1 inch wide. It is quite unique and wonderful for 

       personal or other sort of collection. I have to sell it even if

       I am quite reluctant to do so because I have cherished it for 

       so long.

         It is really a thrill for numismatists. Why not ask for a

       picture of it right now? Send a message, make an offer, and then

       it will be yours.
      ==================================================================
                         Phone (503)690-1090
      ==================================================================

Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: mulcihy@mimas.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David Mulcihy 283-4279)
Subject: Re: Cleaning rusted steel ?
Organization: nasa-jsc
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:57:39 GMT

Phil OKunewick writes

> Muriatic acid.

Be careful. For those of you who don't know this is the same as hydrochloric
acid. It is also available wherever swimming pool chemicals are sold.

David Mulcihy
mulcihy@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
From: mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Charlie Mcarthy spoon
Date: 7 Apr 92 08:49:01 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Apr5.052757.14906@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ag423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Frank Fijalkovich) writes:
> 
> I was cleaning some cupboards in an old house I recently bought
> and I found a spoon with Charlie Mcarthy on the end of it.
> I was wondering if it is worth anything. I've looked in a couple
> of antique books at the library but I found nothing.
> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 			Frank
> -- 

Hi, Frank...

According to Schroeder's 1992 catalogue (p. 396), the current market
value is:

Charlie McCarthy, spoon, silver plate, c. 1930, Exc........$12.00

At least it gives you a ball park number from one source.

Nancy

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Newsgroups: rec.antiques,rec.games.chess
From: nolan@tssi.com (Michael Nolan)
Subject: Re: Antique Chess Sets
Reply-To: nolan@tssi.com
Organization: Tailored Software Services, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:25:38 GMT

horne@birch35.cray.com (Billy Jean Horne) writes:
>My husband collects Chess sets.  We have tried 
>unsuccessfully to find a place in the Minnesota
>area where we can have them appraised for insurance
>purposes.  They are primarily hand carved ivory
>sets - OLD ivory that came out of China prior to
>WWII, no new ivory!  Anyone have any leads?
>B.J.Horne
>horne@cray.com

Not in the Minneapolis area, but you might try contacting Chess Collecters
International.  I think they're based out of New York, but don't have their
current address handy.  (I might have it at home somewhere.)
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Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:00:53 -0400 
From: Michele Colon <mc3h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: School house lamps


We have been trying to sell antique school house lamps, globes and
fixtures.  At this point we are going to throw them in the trash.  We
have contacted local antique shops, but with no luck.  We were asking
$2-3 for the globes or $10 for fixture and globe.  If anyone in the Pgh
area is interested, please contact me.

Thanks.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 08:29:52 MST
From: Allen French <ICSAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Stereoptican found....

Out here in Arizona, stereopticons seem to go from $30-$100+ when you can
find them. Actual value may be dependent on manufacturer and original
quality, e.g. glass versus plastic lenses. Stereo cards are much easier
to find. Many antique shops have some stereo cards, although they are
often the old faded sepia toned ones. They usually sell for $1-$3 each.

I have spoken with several people who collect the cards. One gentleman
is trying to collect a complete series of stereo cards. Apparently,
the sole remaining stereo card company bought all the remaining negatives
from the other companies back in the '20s or '30s, and marketed complete
series of cards.

I have only a few dozen cards but I am still looking for an inexpensive
workable viewer.
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Subject: Re: Cleaning rusted steel ?
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:23:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.115739.12767@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mulcihy@mimas.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David Mulcihy 283-4279) writes:
>Phil OKunewick writes
>
>> Muriatic acid.
>
>Be careful. For those of you who don't know this is the same as hydrochloric
>acid. It is also available wherever swimming pool chemicals are sold.
>

Use of this stuff is really not necessary.  Phosphoric acid is a little slower,
but FAR safer, far more "polite" to the item you are cleaning (it only attacks
the rust -- not the base metal like muriatic acid does).  It is just as
available (and inexpensive) at auto paint stores.