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From: martin@gamma (Martin Wilde)
Subject: Re: A beer called Roslyn
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:50:15 GMT

Roslyn Beer is produced by the Roslyn Brewing company.  They are
located in Roslyn Washington.  The produce to beers, a light lager
and a dark lager.  They are both "steam" style lagers.  IHMO they
are quite good.  They do bottle their beer, but I believe the bottled
version is only available at the brewery.  You could call them
and have them send you a bottle label and you could fake it (just the
bottle not the beer!!!!).

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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Sammie Smiths
Date: 23 Jul 1992 17:44:11 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
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In article <1992Jul23.162945.979@cs.ucf.edu> tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>
>Well beer lovers, I had an opportunity this past weekend to try two of
>the many recommended beers I see in this group. Samual Smiths Nut brown
>ale and Samual Smiths Oatmeal stout.. I think I can say without a
>shred of doubt that these are the two worst beers I have ever had in
>my life. They were simply undrinkable.

   Well, given that you like Newcastle Brown Ale, and I find that
Samuel Smiths Nut Brown Ale tastes similar, I would bet that you
got some bad beer.  The Oatmeal Stout has a better chance of simply
not being to your tastes, since you don't ast nything which could
remotely be called "dark."
   However, it seems much more likely that you bought a couple of
good brews from a bad store.  After a few more bad experiences than
necessary, I've been fairly careful about where I buy my beer.  In
general, I've found that liquor stores that specialize in wine, but
have a good selection of beer, do pretty well (as of course would a
beer specialty store).  Unless I'm desperate, I stay away from
grocery stores, convenience stores, and New Hampshire state liquor
stores.

>You people must have no palate at all.

  Then again, maybe you're just uncultured. If you're ever in
the area, stop by and I'll spring for a quickie tasting to see
where the problem was. :-)
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
Brown University Planetary Geology
From: psc9q@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (The Beloved)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Celebrator
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:41:33 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: psc9q@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU

Does anyone know when Celebrator is brewed and when we can expect imports to
arrive in the US? Thanks,

Paul
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From: ddudek@dadd.ti.com (Dan Dudek,DDXD,)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Dragon Stout
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:27:47 GMT
Reply-To: ddudek@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.

>>To the poster of Dragon Stout:
>> 
>>Dortmunder Union is a german lager made by the same brewery as DAB
>>while Dortmunder is their dark beer.  Neither is Jamacian, so you might 
>>not want to trust your local beverage store clerk as much in the 
>>future. 

You are correct Sir.  Someone else on the net was correct in that it was 
from the same importer/distributer, NOT the same brewer...

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From: bobv@spike.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Bob von Buelow)
Subject: Re: unusual beer
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:10:28 GMT

In article <jdecarlo.180.712513839@mitre.org> jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo) writes:
>
>A nit-pick, but Berliner Weisse beers are not particularly bitter.  Their 
>unusual taste comes from the lactic acid in them, making them very sour.
>

I stand corrected. (It has been a while since I've found this in the 
stores).  I remember I couldn't drink it without the raspberry syrup.

The question remains,  is adding raspberry syrup (or other similiar additive)
done with other beers?  Which ones?  What additives?  I liked the Berliner
Weisse like this so I would like to try other similiar concoctions.

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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: UK Beer Measures.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:36:40 EDT

In <1992Jul20.133643.7669@vax.oxford.ac.uk> wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1992Jul16.181021.12451@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, gjw@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr Garry J. Wardrope) writes:
>> 
>>   The thing about the drinks not being in pint glasses is to do with
>> trading standards.  You buy what you think is a pint only to find out that it
>> isn't - its 1/2 a litre !!! youve been done!!!
>> 
>>    The landlord in question claimed to be selling less beer the reports didn't
>> say how much he charged for it though or what had happened to his profits.
>> ( Had punters started drinking less because it was too expensive ? )
>> 
>He was selling beer in "shorts" (0.2 litre)-about 1/3 pint and "longs" (0.5
>litre)-just under a pint. There were notices around the bar, so no-one was
>being diddled. I saw in the paper an analysis of his prices, which concluded
>that they were cheaper relatively than buting a pint or a half. He was doing
>it because he and his customers wanted to.

This all reminds me of a bartender I once knew who one day proudly
began serving his draft beer in new "12oz" glasses (this is in PA, not
UK). He told everyone they were 12 oz glasses, but I quickly
discovered that when pouring the contents of a 12oz bottle into one of
his 12oz draft beer glasses, there was always about 2oz left in the
bottle (he always used a smaller glass when serving bottles/cans).
When I brought this to his attention he looked honestly surprised, but
rather than admit that he had made a mistake or was deliberately
lying, he flat-out *insisted* that the glasses were 12oz and that "you
never can trust those bottles to have exactly 12oz in them!". Realizing
he was a dope, I dropped the subject...
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From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: Alcohol Content of U.S. Beer
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:01:54 GMT

In article <mcnally.712537415@wsl.pa.dec.com>
 mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally) writes:

>dprcxa@edp.arco.com (Craig Artley) writes:
>>Coors does (or did) in fact ship concentrated wort by railroad tanker car
>>to a second packaging plant in (I think) West Virginia.

>The plant in West Virginia would be a brewery (an extract brewery) (blecch,
>extract-brewed Coors; how could they make it worse?), not just a packaging
>plant

How could it make any difference whether the plant in West Virginia started 
from concentrated wort made in Golden, CO?  That would just help ensure that 
the resulting beer would taste exactly the same.


John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
From: hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Jay Hersh)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: BAD PILSNER URQUELL
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:41:29 GMT
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos) writes:

>Beware -- I just bought my second case (from different stores, several
>months apart) of Pilsner Urquell that was really nasty...  leaking caps,
>slimy, infected taste, etc.

>Either the Eastern Euro happenings are affecting quality control, or
>someone is counterfeiting the stuff.

>I advise you to get your dealer to AGREE IN ADVANCE that you can return
>any that's bad, because they'll just come on with some variation of
>"you're too picky", "I don't control quality, the brewery does", etc.
>otherwise.  Sad but true...  

If your retailer won't take back bad stock you should be talking to the
wholesaler, or the importer. Pilsener Urquell is an organization VERY
obsessed with quality control, and if the wholesaler won't chastise
the retailer, then I'm sure the importer will. This kind of behavior
would not go over well with the folks back at the brewery, and I do know 
many brewers (Sam Adams folks to name one) who will stop selling to 
retailers who ruin their product, since it gives the brewery a bad reputation,
something no brewery likes to have....



	JaH
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: ddudek@dadd.ti.com (Dan Dudek,DDXD,)
Subject: Re: Looking for beer in Montreal
Reply-To: ddudek@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:35:35 GMT

In article 0065@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA, U663000 <U663@UNB.CA> () writes:

A few brands that I really enjoy are (these are mostly available
on tap):
    *** 1-Belle Gueule;
     ** 2-St-Ambroise;

Last time I was up that way (Quebec/Ottawa), I was unfortunately on 
business, and had a hard time finding any brewpubs, but did latch onto
the local stuff in bottles (I just love those 6-pack BOXes...).  I really
enjoyed the 2 you mention above; then one of the local yocals that I was
working with told me that "Belle Gueule" was loosely translated to mean
"Nice Gut".  This was very amusing at the time, and since my 2 yrs of 
French in grade school has LONG been forgotten, I do not know if he was
pulling my leg or not... probably was..


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From: mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally)
Subject: Re: Alcohol Content of U.S. Beer
Organization: DEC Palo Alto
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:48:07 GMT

knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
>I had read in the paper that Coors was sued because they claimed their
>beer is made with 'sparkling mountain spring water' or some such, but
>in reality, they ship a *syrup* to the out of state sites and mix
>with local tap water.

I certain that this is absolutely false.






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From: john_palkovic@ssc.gov (John Palkovic)
Subject: Re: Gingerman in Dallas, Texas.
Cc: rkb6116@sigma.tamu.edu (Mr. Weather)
Organization: Medium Energy Booster RF, SSCL
	<SPENCER.92Jul13095737@guraldi.med.umich.edu>
	<1992Jul14.221145.1754@mercury.unt.edu>
	<1992Jul21.094040.4348@verifone.com> <22JUL199215095597@sigma.tamu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:57:54 GMT

Ken Papai:
>Celis beers can be found at Goody Goody store on Greenville Ave.
>as well as at the Greenville Ave. Whole Foods Market.  I have seen
>it at both places and have enjoyed it at The Gingerman (behind the
>Hard Rock across from Quadrangle).

Ken Blair:
Ken> I'd appreciate it of someone could post some general
Ken> directions to the Gingerman in Dallas.  What part of town,
Ken> major streets, etc..

It is just a little north of downtown Dallas. There is this
humungous grey upscale apartment building called the Crescent
between Mckinney and Cedar Springs - if you see that you're gettin'
close.  I usually get off the "Woodall Rogers" freeway (runs along
the north side of downtown) at the Pearl st. exit. Head north on
Olive. st (Pearl is 1 way south - you will get an option to take
Olive).  Turn right on McKinney (northeast). Go about 1/2 mile or
so and turn *left* on Boll (I think it is one blk past Routh). The
Gingerman is 1.5 blks straight ahead.  Look for the xmas tree
lights and the 41 taps. :-)

If you go on a weekend night, expect to rub elbows with several
hundred other patrons. Don't have too many pints of Salvator or Old
Foghorn if you are driving home.

Adios,

-John


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From: IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: BLUEBERRY BEER
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:38:03 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Is there such a thing?
Where can I get some, or a recipe to brew some?
Any info. would be appreciated!
Thanks!-----Andie
From: slamb@milp.jsc.nasa.gov (Sean C. Lamb 335-6669 Loral)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer Battle Erupts Between U.S., Canada
Keywords: US Canada Taxes
Date: 28 Jul 1992 17:59:02 GMT
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems

In article <27JUL199216414042@gergo.tamu.edu>, paul@gergo.tamu.edu (From under the rock of Paul Stine) writes:
|> 
|> 	'In April, the U.S. and Canada reached an agreement in principle 
|> 	to resolve these disputes, but Ontario jacked up some of its
|> 	charges shortly after the agreement was reached, increasing the 
|> 	obstacles for the U.S. brewers.'
|> 
|> 	  As the beer world turns ...
|> 

If I remeber things correctly, part of the original agreement had to do with
the Feds (US) doing away with any tax breaks for micros.

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From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: A beer called Roslyn
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:38:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

ftgmdw@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>Could anybody help me ? I've heard of an American beer called ROSLYN, which
>comes from a town of the same name near Seattle. As this is the name of my 
>good
>lady wife, and our first anniversary is imminent, I would earn no end of bonus
>points for being a loving husband etc., if I presented her with a bottle or
>two. To this end, does anyone know how I could get hold of some of this stuff?
>
>Any ideas would be gratefully received.

i doubt the beer is bottled, but you may be able to purchase a t-shirt or
other paraphernalia.  the phone number is

  Roslyn Brewing
  Rosyln, WA.  (509)649-2232

good luck and happy anniversary.

						-- dave

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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: good vessel for chimay???
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:22:32 GMT

In article <141e4hINNqdp@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
>In article <1992Jul13.132536.7461@vax.oxford.ac.uk> nagrwb@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>I noticed the labelling recommended the use of "round" glasses instead of
>>the more upright "straights".  Is there a good reason for this?
>
>   The same reason things like cognac are served in a rounded vessel--
>to concentrate the fine aroma of the brew (a larger surface exposure
>combined with a narrower outlet).  Personally, I don't think it makes
>that much difference (as long as you don't swig it straight from
>the bottle, that is :-).

Many brewers prefer to serve their beers in the "tulip shaped" glass
because it draws the carbonation from a wider area and funnels it upwards
into a thicker head, which is supposed to retain the carbonation and
aroma underneath, sort of like the top on a beer stein.  That's the
way it was explained to me by a representative of Nette Pils in
Germany; a company which at the time (1976) was using tulip-shaped
glasses almost exclusively.  Then again, maybe its just because those
glasses look so cool. :-)   Schultheis and Binding were also big into
tulip glasses at the time.  The classic Bitburger glass is sort of
a squared-off version of this - wide at the bottom, with sides going
straight in and up towards the top (sort of like the bottom quarter of
a long narrow cone).


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From: bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038)
Subject: Re: Oatmeal Stout
Originator: bickham@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:46:31 GMT

From article <9557@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, by michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel):
> 
>> A simple solution to the problem: if you only like good beer, don't drink
>> any stout!
> 
> Carefully worded so as to be not quite slanderous of stout.
> 
> But I'll defend it anyway. Stout is a good thing to drink if
> you know you're going to be drinking stout. As a stout, Chimay
> is terrible, but it's great beer. Disbelievers can try Matilda
> Bay Brass Monkey (yum!). It's also fun with a raw egg (this
> also exists as a rural American custom, n'est-ce pas?)
> 

I couldn't let the remark about the raw egg go through without dsiclaimers.
Here in New York, 25% of the eggs sold carry salmonella, which is enough
reason for me not to consume these "Breakfast Specials"

Scott
From: fulks@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Utah Brew (slickrock)
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:05:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



A few months ago there was a discussion of Utah beers, beer in Utah, etc.
The Wasatch Brewery in Park City, Utah was mentioned for their very good
brews.  In the event any of you are traveling through Utah in the future,
may I strongly recommend you try a brew called:
		SLICKROCK
which is brewed by Wasatch in Park City.  You will most likely find it
on tap; I am yet to see it in bottles.  I would compare it to some of the
better brews by Sierra Nevada.  Not too strong, but very flavorful and
quite satisfying.

You can find it several places in Park City (great snow skiing; balloning,
etc- though I don't do either of those).  I am in Logan, Utah, home of
Utah State University (where I teach).  Logan is also the home of a 
very nice pub called The White Owl.  I am told more Slickrock & other
Wasatch brews are sold through this pub than any other in Utah- other 
than the Wasatch Brewery pub in Park City.

Here's hoping you'll have a chance to try Slickrock,

		cheers,
				Steve Fulks
From: H.Regan@bradford.ac.uk (H REGAN)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Weissbier
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:41:05 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90465160@mail


Hi all,

Does anybody have a homebrew recipe for Weissbier? I'd like to
make it from the grain and I'd like it to be the "Hell" variety,
which I think means light-coloured.

You should bear-in-mind that this is to be made in england, so 
some of the more exotic ingredients won't be available to me.

Please respond by email to me.

Thanks,

Helen 
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From: trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Re: BAD PILSNER URQUELL
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:08:49 GMT

In article <skenny.711914377@femto.engr.mun.ca>, skenny@pico.engr.mun.ca (Shawn Kenny) writes:
|> 
|> I don't know anything about the export stuff but when I had it in Prague
|> durng summer of 1989 it was nothing short of superb.

I've Pilsner Urquell once, that was enough.  It was the skunkiest, most 
foul tasting beer that has ever passed my lips.  Granted, this was their export
brew.
 
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From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Politics of Beer Centers in USA
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:52:48 GMT
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

larryw@lclark.edu (Larry Westdahl) writes:


>When you come to Portland, try one of the many McMenamin's pubs, and 
>definitely hit the Dublin Pub, which has 102 beers on tap.  The Dublin also
>has a special club for those who have tried ALL of their beers.

>- Lawrence
As a fellow Portlander, let me offer a second opinion: NO!

The McMenamin's brewpubs may offer some interest, but there are lots
better places to drink here, and lots better beer than theirs.

The Dublin does have an astonishing array, but the very size of their
tap list means that few of the beers are likely to be fresh--it's a
massive crapshoot unless your drinking their most popular beers:
Budweiser and Widmer Hefeweizen.

On the east side, of course, we have the old favorite, Produce Row,
which probably only carries 15 or so beers on draught, but has several
hundred in bottles.  And no live music.

BridgePort, Portland, Full Sail and Widmer (at B Moloch) all have
taprooms/pubs which offer really fresh and really well made beer. BEST
BETS.

--Jeff Frane

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