HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston J. Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:16:29 CDT
Organization: Macrocosm BBS: 913-841-9446

In article <64916@apple.Apple.COM>, shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:
> 
> They're not technotes.  The documents you want are the System 6 Toolbox ERS and

Ok, gurglegurglegurglegurgle <-- me sticking my head in the sink.
 
> the Finder 6.0 ERS.  You can find them on the System 6 CD which is being
> mailed to developers later this month (or being mailed right now for all I
> know).  The CD will also be available for purchase through Resource-Central,
> and we'll be/are investigating whether the ERS's will be available via FTP.

The CD came a couple of days after the 1st.  Thanks.

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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr6.173230.453@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

>Hey, how do I remove the application map from a particular icon.
>Lets say I boo-boo'd and I mapped the icon to the wrong app??

You have to remove the "Desktop" file in your ICONS folder (probably on your
boot drive).  The file is invisible, so you'll have to turn "Hide invisible
files" off.

andy

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Apple Computer, Inc.		       	      InterNET: shrinkit@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cooperah@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Anthony H Cooper)
Subject: IIGS system forsale
Reply-To: cooperah@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Anthony H Cooper)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:42:33 GMT

I have the following IIGS system for sale..

	Apple IIGS CPU ROM O1, Keyboard, and Mouse
	Apple RGB Monitor
	Apple 3.5" Drive
	Apple 5.25" Drive
	Apple 1 Meg Memory Card
	Apple 5 Meg HardDrive
	Applied Engineering 1.50 Meg Memory Card (total sytem 2.75)
	Applied Engineering RamKeeper
	  (Allows use of both memory cards and the use of a ROM disk)
	Applied Engineering Datalink 1200 modem
	Applied Engineering Sonic Blaster
	ThunderScan GS
	Generic I/O Board
Misc Software I have collected over the last few years.

I would like to get $1400.00, but I will take a look at any offers.
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Tony Cooper cooperah@hydra.rose-hulman.edu or @nextwork.rose-hulman.edu  
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From: coleman@ioctl.cs.fsu.edu (Jason Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 6 and Appleshare
Date: 2 Apr 92 02:17:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: mailer.1992Apr1.211741.4530
Reply-To: coleman@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department

I installed system 6 last night, and everything seems to work OK, except:
My gs is linked to my Mac via Mac sys 7 personal appleshare.  The portion
of the boot in which Appleshare is started now takes a _long_ time, whether
or not file sharing is up on the Mac at the time (there's about a 30 second
delay in there now).

Under 5.0.4, there was no noticable delay.

Is this something new to sys 6, or do I have something setup wrong?

Thanks.
From: bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Andy departs... (was Re: System 6 Launcher!)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:38:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr14.203841.21867
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
 
[stuff by nattering nabob of negativisim incinerated in a nuclear furnace]
 
>Warning:  Unsorted collection of Dave Opinions follows.
 
[massive amounts of very hystarically funny stuff removed]
 
Oh no!!!  Dave's leaving the Apple // to become a standup comic! ;-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: Problems with SCSI HD and Apple HS SCSI card
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 05:43:24 EDT

kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:

> Yes, Spacefox. Wonderful game. Works fine, but forgets to turn on the SHR
> screen after the intro.....I use NiftyList and issue a _grafon command. Works
> really easily. 

Change the filetype of Spacefox.Sys16 and Spacefox.main (in the data folder) 
to $DB02, and all will be well.

>  
> BTW, Speaking of Spacefox, I still haven't won the game, though I can get all
> the way to the battlestation at the end on just about any give game. Sigh.
> Spacefox has been eating up WAY too much of my time, lately. 

There's a cheat CDA floating around that makes it possible (though still 
only barely). That's the one main flaw with the game...the battlestation 
can't possibly be beaten by a non-cheating player (really). Everything else 
was just about right for difficulty, I thought.

Try using the laser exclusively on the Battlestation level, and just worry 
about blowing through that brown mass in the centre (ie. _don't_ use AutoAim 
- the game can't be finished with it).

>  
>               -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
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>    {Cathouse BBS (301) 840-8567 3/12/24/9600 V.32 24 hours}


Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"
CI$ 70253,2574          '
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Useless observation...
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:44:03 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr8.020941.1@woods.ulowell.edu> kiszkaw@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>
>	Just a little tidbit of an observation about System 6:
>	Meltdown NDA only melts half the screen.

You have an old version of Meltdown...there's a newer one that works fine.

The same behavior is present in 5.0.x, but only in applications that
start up QuickDraw using Shadowing or fastPort or both.  It's just an
incorrect check of the MasterSCB value (failing to ignore bits that
are unrelated to the 320/640 status).

In 6.0, it's more noticable, since the Finder now asks for both fastPort
and Shadowing when starting QuickDraw.  (It only gets shadowing if you
-don't- have CloseView.)
-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston J. Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sound to Sound
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:36:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1992Apr12.093653.39264
Organization: Macrocosm BBS: 913-841-9446

In article <TeV1iB2w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca>, toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca 
(Marc Sira) writes:
> Well, there's no way of doing this in a single step like with SuperConvert, 
> but it can be done. What you could do would be to pack the Mac file 
> containing the sound in a resource (with StuffIt), stick the disk into the 
> GS's drive under Finder 6.0 (yeah!) and unpack the archive with Shrinkit-GS 
> (with "Split StuffIt archives into seperate forks" or whatever flagged). 
> Next you'd run Resource Spy on the Mac resource fork (which is now in a 
> seperate binary file) and extract the sound resources you want, saving them 
> in raw sound files.

Ummm, if you're getting them off a Mac anyway, why not just save them as
SoundEdit files and make a note of the playback speed.  Then just play them
with AudioZap, or whatever utility you happen to feel like using at the time.

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From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Date: 5 Apr 92 21:26:45 CDT
Organization: Macrocosm BBS 913-841-9446

In article <1992Apr3.070651.27192@cheshire.oxy.edu>, prophet@cheshire.oxy.edu (Dale LaFountain) writes:
> I read the Shortcuts file, and I tried both Option-Double click and 
> Ctrl-Option-Double click.  However, I have discovered that this doesn't
> work for files that don't already have an icon definition in */Icons.

Hey, I bet it would be possible to write a finder extention that does this.
Where are all those System 6 tech notes anyway?

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 17:32:59 EDT
From: <IO20043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: FTP.Apple.Com

How does one go about getting an account on FTP.APPLE.COM?

Thanks,

Terry Meiczinger

IO20043@Maine.Maine.EDU
From: r.levy@GREEN.COOPER.EDU (Rami_Levy-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: (none)
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:12:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


Sorry, you're right, I should have described the setup more fully.
here goes:

SETUP: 4MB Apple //gs, ROM 01, 40MB Vulcan HD, TransWarp GS, 1 3.5", 1 5.25".

Problems: 

I have experienced the following serious bugs with System 6.0:

1. When a 3.5" disk is ejected, the hard drive icons on the desktop are 
"deselected" (as if they were ejected too), and the Finder proceeds
to request that I "Please insert" my hard drive.  The only way to get
around this, of course, is to reboot the machine.  The 3.5" disk does eject.
Again, the hard drive is Vulcan 40MB.

2. The Finder does not save its PREFERENCES, so that I have to reset them
each time.

3.  The Finder does not save the settings of the root directory of my
hard drive partitions (e.g., icon positions, icon colors, etc.).

4. The Desktop setup is not saved either.

5. Trying to execute a BASIC program gives me the message "To run a PRODOS
application, the file must reside on a PRODOS volume." It does.

Please help!!!!!! Thanks.

Rami

Please respond to levy@green.cooper.edu
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IR Finder Extra 1/1
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:30:43 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <FFV5iB5w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>Ahh...but it was intentional for me. I knew it was cross-posted, but I 
>actually Followed from c.b.a2. _I_ wasn't being net-cop...B-)

It was also intentional for me (you DO have to change the Newsgroups: line
to make it appear in c.s.a2 when it was only posted to c.b.a2).

>On that note again, should messages really be cross-posted between binaries 
>and readable newsgroups?

Depends.  If you find a posting with a virus in it, I would hope that you
would cross-post to both.  Most news readers are smart enough so that you
only have to read the message once anyway (and it only gets sent once, so
there's no extra load on the network).

Since the posting was illegal (turns out that you'd need a licensing
agreement from Apple's Merry Band of Lawyers), I decided to post to both.
I'm not sure that I should have or not.  Oh well, what's done is done.

>Marc Sira               |
>toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
From: bazyar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Ack! GNO problem!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:15:24 GMT

James:
>> >>erw-brd 0000 $C7         0 Jul 26 17:30 1991 Monitor

>> >two fork files as the size of the data fork.  I'm not sure of a better
>> >way to handle that, besides maybe at least showing the file is forked (maybe
>> >a '+' after the FT or between the FT and auxtype?).

[ Tim's Deleted..] 
Derek:
>Just exactly what do you think the e is for (erw-brd)?  ls isn't 100% GNO,  
>either.  At least, I didn't think I was getting a paycheck.  :-)

  :)  No, Derek's not on the payroll (yet, anyway) but I'm taking care
of minor revisions to his utilities because he has better things to worry
about - tc-what?
  Also, FYI, I now have 'ls' add the sizes of the two forks together when
being displayed.  It's possible we could add a flag so you could choose
one fork or the other instead of their sum, but this will work for now.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: IIGS accelerators
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:47:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.005305.12000@sinkhole.unf.edu> swarde@unf6.unf.edu (Rico Swarde) writes:
>Can anyone tell me if it is possible to upgrade the cache on a
>TransWarp GS without buying Ae's upgrade kit?  It seems as if all
>one would have to do is change out a chip or add a chip to the
>board.  Any do-it-yerselfers out there?

	I don't think so.  The new daughter board uses the smaller
variety of static rams, like the newer Zips.  You have to remove the
old daughter board, and put the new one in.  The new board is kind of
cool, because the chips are on the backside, so they are actually
nested between the chips on the main motherboard.  And you have to cut
a couple of bowties on the back of the main card.

	The 32k cache makes a big difference.  I'd get it if you can.
Actually, didn't Burger Bill increase his TWGS cache to 64k, among
other things?  Maybe I'll ask him....

>Sean Warden                                     | ___       ___ 

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mdavis@crash.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Subject: Re: NEWS RELEASE: MDG INTRODUCES PROLINE 2.0
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:28:26 GMT

In <1992Apr10.153036.13754@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bj687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Joseph Boehnlein) writes:

>In >MY< opinion, METAL is
>a much more sophisticated package than ProLine can ever hope to be. Why? 
>Because, first off, BASIC is just plain slow. I don't like it, it's hard to
>modify from remote, and if it crashes, your pretty much screwed.

Certainly your opinion will differ from many others.  Of all the
requests I've received for new features for ProLine, speed has not
been one of them.  As for modifying it remotely, not only can you
modify it by just running Applesoft BASIC (which you can do while
connected), but you can also completely maintain a ProLine from a
remote location.  As for crashing, ProLine doesn't.  Since it is
mostly in BASIC, the only possible crash you could have would be an
Applesoft error, which would get handled by an ONERR GOTO routine.
If, for some reason such as a power spike, your system does dive into
the monitor, ProLine will automatically reboot the computer to bring
itself back up with a fresh operating system.

>METAL, on the other hand, is a compiled language that is easy to modify from 
>remote, almost crash proof, and VERY tolerant of errors.

Almost crash proof?  Is that like, being "just a little pregnant"  :-)
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 woes, and other things
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:29:54 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <msyoiB6w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>[...yellow folders, sometimes ugly...]
>Yep, but it happens sometimes in directories that have no Finder.Data file. 
>I have a couple of folders that are (for instance) a colored picture on a 
>white background, which the finder refuses to color yellow (whether because 
>of the default, or by selecting that color from the menu). Like, if default 
>color was left at yellow and I created a new folder named "Games" (this is 
>one of them) it would come up white. Most any other folder icon I have would 
>get tinted yellow...I can't figure out what's special about the ones it 
>won't touch.

Every icon has an "already colored" flag that you can set with DIcEd or
Icon Ed.  It's under Edit Attributes... (at least in DIcEd).  When the
box is checked, the system never applies recoloring to the icon.  The
System folder icon is marked that way.  If you have any custom folder
icons that already contain color, go set the checkbox for those icons,
and they won't get uglified with yellow.
-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Galen Tatsuo Komatsu)
Subject: Re: Beagle Brothers
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:59:41 GMT

In article <df37329@pro-columns.cts.com> stein5@pro-columns.cts.com (Scott Steinbrink) writes:
> Ah... remember the old times when the Beagle Brothers were a
> zany company? I still wish they were... they can really come up
> with great one-line programs for the Apple II -- I wish they would
> still throw in funny lines or funny comments about their own
> products -- that kind of thing really sparked me...

	...those were the days... =^)  I remember whenever I recieved
a magazine in the mail (be it Softalk, Nibble, etc...) the Beagle Bros.
ads would be one of the things I'd look for!  I'd eagerly type in those
neat little programs featured in their ads.   And oh! the catalogs!
I've got zillions of 'em (my name must've apeared 50 times on their
mailing list!) ...not sure why I keep them all, maybe they'll be worth
$money$ some day!

10 A$ = "CHIRP!": FOR X = 0 TO 17: READ A: POKE 12345 + X,A: NEXT
20 N = RND (1) * 6: R = RND (1) * 66: FOR X = 1 TO N: POKE 0, R:
	CALL 12345: PRINT A$;: NEXT
30 GOTO 15: DATA 173, 48, 192, 136, 308, 4, 198, 0, 240, 7, 202, 208,
	24, 6, 166, 0, 208, 239, 96

	Have Fun!  Took that one from the Volume 0, Number 9
(Spring/Summer 1986) catalog.  One of my all time favorites (not to
mention annoying programs!)

Galen Komatsu
gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Subject: Re: Andy departs... (was Re: System 6 Launcher!)
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 02:54:32 EDT

shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:

> In article <1992Apr12.220931.2895@xcluud.sccsi.com> gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com (
> >Can you help the II working on a Mac, I doubt it.
> 


Isn't that sorta like saying "You can't help the //e working on a GS?"

Oh, I'm sorry, I broke a unknown (to me, but not to gtolar) rule that says 
in order for me to write a rather large system (you guess which one) for 
the //e, I can't use my GS. And I can't use Merlin 16+. And I can't use 
GSOS. And I can't use my HST at 38400 (since the //e can only do 19200).

And I guess that Greg B. can't work on his BBS's program segments from his 
IBM at work (and his BBS is run off of an Apple). Again, breaking that 
unknown rule!

Look, it doesn't matter what you use to WRITE, DEVELOP, CREATE, DEFINE, 
etc a program (or picture or story or song or new kind of dance) on. All 
that *really* matters is that the blasted thing works on the target 
machine!!

Heck, I had a Macintosh avail to me, you can bet I'd use the thing to 
write stuff on. Like documentation (my bane) - leave the GS free for the 
bbs system...


Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
From: daveharv@pro-tiger.CTS.COM (Dave Harvey-SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS Motherboard swap
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:43:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-tige.d849530
Organization: Pro-tiger, Falls Church, Virginia, USA

In <01GIF54TFUGKBL1AVA@LSUVAX.SNCC.LSU.EDU>
$CSP606@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ("John G. Mills") writes:


>  There is no upgrade path from ROM01 to ROM03. So it depends on which rom
>version you had when you brought it in (ie. if it was a ROM01, you'll get
>a ROM01; if it was a ROM03, it'll be swapped for a ROM03).

In many cases, what actually happens depends on individual dealers.  When I
brought my busted ROM 1 in, the dealer called me and said "We're going to
have to replace your logic board.  All we have is ROM 3 logic boards.  Is it
ok if we give you a ROM 3 logic board?  No difference in price."  I of course
said YES, since the ROM 3 boards come with 1 mb of memory installed and also
allow you to print from slot 1 when using Appletalk.

  
----
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Internet: daveharv@pro-tiger.cts.com
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From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (Jay Bhartkumar Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: VIEWING GIF ON IIgs
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:25:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: chopin.19517
Organization: University of Delaware

Can anyone tell me a name of the software that I can use to download and view
GIF on my computer.


Please E-mail me.




COBRA

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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: What do I need?
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:02:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.m0lYx90-0000I3C
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Apr 08 92 at 20:11:13 (EST)

> From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
> Now it looks like I've come back just in time to upgrade to ProTerm
> 3.0, System 6, and pro-line 2.0.

Congratulations. Good timing. (except on the Proline comment :)

> I've been watching this group for a few weeks... My remaining
> questions - is my system hopelessly out of date?  How much memory do I
> need?  Are there disk drives that'll use higher than 800K?  What'll it
> cost to set me up with a decent hard drive and card?

Not too badly out of date. 1.5Megs of memory is usable (barely), you'd
probably want to grab some more. 

Yes, there are floppy disk drives that will handle more than 800K, but they
are still pretty new.

Decent hard drive? About $400 (or a little less) for 100Megs (+ or - a couple
of megs). $179 for the newest RamFast (rev D) which is the fastest SCSI
interface. Reconditioned older RamFasts are available for $99, and there is
always Apple's Hi-Speed SCSI card for a bit less than that. 

The GS isn't dead just hidden.

              -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
                (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)
   {Cathouse BBS (301) 840-8567 3/12/24/9600 V.32 24 hours}