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From: cs30@prism.gatech.EDU (SMITH,CHRISTOPHER G)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: VS Graf vs. McNeil comments
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:20:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


[I hope you don't see this article twice]

WHAT A HUGE UPSET!!!!!  An incredible match!

McNeil d. Graf(2)  7-6 6-4

This is McNeil's first ever win at the VS Championships. 

McNeil had never won against Graf, but she won tonight.  I have
always had a soft spot for McNeil because she has a wonderful
net game and plays beautifully when she's on (and conversely
very badly when she's off). 

McNeil started off very poorly and was down 5-1 in the first 
set, but then Graf became a bit tentative.  It was at that point
that McNeil became much more confident and began to take control
at the net.  What was remarkable was from that point almost
all the way to the end of the match, McNeil controlled the match
play (although she had a short lapse at the beginning of the 2nd
set).

Graf clearly was not playing as well as in Philadelphia, spraying a
few forehands, making just a few net attempts, and faltering in
her serve.  She double-faulted on McNeil's set point in the 1st set,
and her second serve was attackable.  However, at least part of the
problem has to be attributed to the pressure McNeil was putting on
her.  A very fine match.

The Novotna vs. Fernandez match was much less enthralling.

..Chris

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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: VS/ATP Update
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:13:46 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$2.5 MILLION ATP CHAMPIONSHIP
AT FRANKFURT, GERMANY
SATURDAY'S RESULTS  
SEMIFINALS
----------
Jim Courier (1) d. Pete Sampras (3), 7-6 (7-5), 7-6 (7-4)
Boris Becker (7) d. Goran Ivanisevic (4), 4-6,6-4,7-6 (9-7)
 
Both the guys with the perfect win record in the round robin part are
gone in the semis!

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$3 MILLION VIRGINIA SLIMS CHAMPIONSHIP
 
SEMIFINALS
----------
Monica Seles (1) d. Gabriela Sabatini (3), 7-6 (8-6), 6-1
Martina Navratilova (4) d. Lori McNeil, 7-6 (7-5), 6-4
 
So what else is new? ;-)

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From: cd377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Israel Yanez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: #1 GABY FAN/VS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:09:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Israel Yanez)
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Please, anyone who gets the cable channel that is covering the VS
Championships in NY and has taped or is willing to tape any of
Gaby's matches, will you let me know if you will make a copy
for me.  I will pay you back with anything you ask!  Money
and otherwise.

The cable company here does not carry that channel.

Thanks a whole bunch!

-IY
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From: eddie@chpc.utexas.edu (Eddie Hedges)
Subject: Re: ATP Championships, semifinals (spoilers)
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:17:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.164045.17741@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>, arijeet@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Arijit Das) writes:
> In article <1992Nov21.224231.17249@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
> >
> >    ESPN also skipped a lot of the Becker-Ivanisevic match, televising
> >the third set, after Goran won the first 6-4, and Becker won the
> 
> In my opinion the media is out of touch with fan response, tennis at
> the top level is beyond national boundaries, so even if two Americans
> were playing (Courier vs Sampras), any average tennis fan would have
> expected the Becker - Ivanisevic match to be more interesting. Instead
> we do see a boring upset (Courier beats Sampras), and the last bit
> of a very interesting match (Becker beats Ivanisevic in a third set 
> tie breaker). What little they showed was great to watch.
> ---
> arijit

 Hi Arijit,

    I feel the same way. This has happened many times over the years. I almost
have the feeling one of the network executives in charge of scheduling is
really a, say, football expert and thinks to himself or herself hmmmmm....
I've heard of this fellow Courier (the baseball fan) but who the heck is
Ivanisevic? Well lets put the Sampras kid on, I saw him on Johnny Carson :-).
    Oh yeh like I'm ever right :-).
 Anyway...it gives me a chance to say something nice about Boom Boom :-)
err...Boris. I personally am a bigger fan of Becker than Courier and
Sampras so I am happy for him and the sport of tennis. Things have been too
dull and Boris is a real inspiration! When he puts his mind to it he really
plays great.
Happy Birthday.

Eddie 

     
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From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Davis Cup News
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:30:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: knex.B2JcuB3w165w
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

Switzerland has a new Davis Cup captain: Dmitri Sturdza. Obviously he
predicts a Swiss victory. He replaces Roland Stadler, who is supposed
to have been forced to resign.

The 54-year-old Sturdza, a former Davis Cup player for
Switzerland, announced today that Jakob Hlasek and Marc Rosset
will play singles and Claudio Mezzadri and Thierry Grin will
complete the four-man team. 

Sturdza is confident of the victory because recently Hlasek and
Rosset defeated US Davis cuppers Courier and Agassi. Also cited was
Agassi's groin injury.

The United States and Switzerland will play for the Davis Cup
at Fort Worth, Texas, from December 4-6.  The United States has
won the Davis Cup 29 times.  Switzerland will be appearing in the 
final for the first time. 

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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Tournament update: Nov 15 pm
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:08:31 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$1.1 MILLION EUROPEAN COMMUNITY CHAMPIONSHIP
AT ANTWERP, BELGIUM
SUNDAY'S RESULT  
FINAL
-----
Richard Krajicek (6) d. Mark Woodforde, 6-2,6-2

Krajicek will now qualify for the ATP Championship, as a replacement
for Ivan Lendl, who withdrew because of a groin pull/injury. Wayne
Ferreira would have gotten that place, had Krajicek not won the
Antwerp tournament.

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$350,000 VIRGINIA SLIMS OF PHILADELPHIA
AT PHILADELPHIA
SUNDAY'S RESULT  
FINAL
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Steffi Graf (1) d. Arantxa Sanchez (3), 6-3,3-6,6-1
 
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From: karthik@cae.wisc.edu (M Karthik)
Subject: Re: Racquetball Rules Anyone???
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:12:04 CST

In article <1992Nov17.150343.23892@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gap5u@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory Ashley Perron) writes:


>I know this is the wrong newsgroup--this is rec.sport.TENNIS, not
>racquetball.  However, I couldn't find one for racquetball.  As many 
>tennis players I know play racquetball, I thought I'd give it a chance.
>
>I'm looking for official rules for racquetball--online text mailed to
>me would be best, but sources would be ok, too. 
>
>
>Thanks a lot!
>
>--
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>gap5u@virginia.edu    | what I mean.  No, wait, that's not right...


	When we are in that topic, which is the short service line in singles
(racquetball). Is it teh dotted line ( the first one from the back court) or
is it one of the service lines??

Thanks in advance
Bye
Karthik
.


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From: j-nolan@uchicago.edu (John Nolan)
Subject: Tennis in Orlando in LATE Dec-January
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:14:58 GMT

I just saw a posting looking for opponents in the Orlando area, but,
unfortunately, not when I will be there.  Is anyone out there willing to 
a few times over the Christmas-New Year's holidays?  I will be in Orlando
from Dec. 23 - Jan.6(?).  Please reply via e-mail.
From: smuench@i61s4.ira.uka.de (Stefan Muench)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Matches on Friday (No Results!)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 12:38:54 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Institute for Real-time Computer Systems and Robotics (IPR), Germany
Distribution: world
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Becker - Edberg

Chang - Courier

Ivanisevic - Krajicek

Sorry, but I don't know the order of the matches.
-- 


Stefan
From: jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Couple of Observations on Virginia Slims Final
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:08:08
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com
In-reply-to: 's message of Monday, 23 Nov 1992 03:01:18 CST

In article <92328.030118U28765@uicvm.uic.edu> <U28765@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:


      That could very well have happened except one point. I think it was 5-4
      Martina serving in the first set, 15-0, she served a first serve, came in
      behind it, got a high put away volley, and at the last moment decided to
      skip it on the calculation that it was going to fall beyond the baseline.
      It did'nt! and what could have been 30-0 became 15-15, and later deuce and
      needless to say 5-5 and so on and so forth.

      I am sure that that point stuck in her mind for the rest of that game. I
      am not saying that she would have won the match if she won the first set,
      but it would definitely have been a different animal (the match that is).


Having watched Martina for 15 years, I am sure the point stuck in her mind.
 But, whether or not it did you can say for sure that she was starting to
worry at the time she let the volley go.  Why not play a sitter
[particularly if it going to be close?] If you are playing well, with
confidence, you play it.  If you are worried, you let it go and hope it
goes out. 

jim taylor

Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Josef Nelissen)
Subject: Re: Edberg's big loss 
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:47:47 GMT

mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu) writes:

>In article <1m7JuB1w165w@knex.Gwinnett.COM> Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM> writes:
>>$2.5 MILLION ATP CHAMPIONSHIP
>>AT FRANKFURT, GERMANY
>>FRIDAY'S RESULTS  
>>ROSEWALL GROUP
>>--------------
>>Boris Becker (7) d. Stefan Edberg (2), 6-4,6-0
>> 
>>German fans for some explanation?
>Yes, I can hardly wait for Cordula's blow-by-blow report.  Please.
>Offhand, I would say the German crowd might have been a factor.  
>But, as an Edberg fan, I will have to say that I am rather concerned.
>It doesn't bode well for Stefan to have lost to Forget in Paris
>the way he did, and to lose so badly to Becker in Frankfurt a week
>later.

Well, I think Cordula is just getting back from Frankfurt to Bonn -
but perhaps you can put up with my comments as long as she hasn't
posted ;-)

Up to 3:3 in the first set it was the rather good match I had
expected, but then BB won 8 points (perhaps even more) in a row,
breaking Stefan, who afterwards just won one single game more. 
This was the turning point of the game, Stefan playing only mediocre
tennis (compared to his normal level of course) except the first three set
points which he won with very good shoots.

At the other side BB was playing at a very high level, sometimes with
really incredible returns. Obviously Stefan's second serve is now
attackable by most of the top ten players.  As the german commentators
mentioned (and this time right, which doesn't happen very often :-)),
Stefan wasn't able to vary his serve, always hitting at BB's backhand
and getting a BOOMBOOM hit back (in most cases a passing shot), while
BB was serving at forehand, backhand or body in a great variety.

The german crowd wasn't such a factor IMHO, but Stefan seemed to be
very discouraged by his level of play and didn't had the mental
toughness to forget about the past and concentrate on the future
match. As a friend noted, he wasn't playing as he would have expected
from someone who is fighting for number one.

>Could it be that Edberg's actually getting burned out? :((

Maybe, but look at Becker, who hasn't played well this year before he
won in Paris, perhaps (hopefully, I might say, because I'm sad about
Stefan's decline) Stefan will rise again some month later.
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From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: Racquetball Rules Anyone???
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:29:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.150343.23892@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gap5u@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory Ashley Perron) writes:
] I'm looking for official rules for racquetball--online text mailed to
] me would be best, but sources would be ok, too. 
] 
Sorry, I don't have anything online - but I'd be glad to answer _any_
questions you have about racquetball.

] Specific questions I have:
] 1) when the ball hits a player, what happens?  do over?  point to the
] other person?

Point/Sideout to the other person - the ball can only touch the racquet.

] 2) must a serve hit the front wall first  (or can it hit the side wall)?

The serve may not hit anything before hitting the front wall. Sideout.

] 3) how is the ceiling (on an indoor court) treated--legal all the time, 
] legal in some situations, etc.

Ceiling is illegal on serve. After that it's free game.

] 4) Is serving like tennis (i.e. fault, then double-fault) or is it one
] chance only?

You get two faults. But certain serves are not faults - they're instant
sideouts (e.g. hitting anything before the front wall, hitting yourself
on the serve.)

  Someone else asked about service lines. There's a few lines. The line
  in the middle of the court (20') is the short service line. It,
  and the line 5 feet in front of it are part of the service box.
  (In other words, hitting the line on a serve _is_ short.) The line
  5' behind the short service line is the lob serve line and is often
  dashed. If a serve is a lob, it must either bounce first or pass this
  line before being contacted by the receiver. The definition of a lob
  is pretty well spelled out in the rulebook. There's also a few
  other lines inside the serving box: the lines 1.5' from the walls
  are for doubles (the team member not serving must stand back to the
  wall in this box until the ball passes the short service line.),
  the lines 3' fom the walls (often missing on courts) is the drive
  serve line (drive serves must be contacted by the server such that
  his racquet does not cross this line - the server has 17' in which
  to serve a drive serve to the left, and a different 17' in which
  to serve a drive serve to the right.).

Again, any more questions, feel free to write!

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From: ac1@cec2.wustl.edu (Anuj Chandra)
Subject: ATP World Championship - Semi finals results
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:57:22 GMT

Courier d. Sampras 7-6, 7-6
Becker d. Ivanesevic 4-6,6-4,7-6



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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Capriati Address?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:25:19 GMT
Keywords: JENNIFER CAPRIATI

In article <1992Nov19.111958.4482@spcvxb.spc.edu> CAPRIATI ADDRESS writes:
>
>Does anyone have an address where I could send my female hero Jen Capriati some
>fan mail?
     [ stuffs deleted ]
>						Jen-Jen in 93

Is this part of the periodic posting or something? I have seen this
identical question posted four times already. Again, as I said before,
if one believes Jen-Jen in 93 as some people believe in Perot in 96,
then Jennifer's address will simply be the White House soon. :-)

Seriously, I recently saw her address in a sports magazine:

C/O International Management Group
1 Erieview Plaza, Suite 1300
Cleveland, Ohio  44114
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From: mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Right-handed serve-volleyers vs lefties
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:46:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, UCSB


According to the stats published in today's USA Today, both
Edberg and Sampras are far better against right-handers than
against left-handers.  In fact, Edberg top the vs-Righthanders
list with a 60:11 win-loss ratio, followed by Sampras at 49:10.
However, neither one makes the vs Left-handers list.

Both Edberg and Sampras are serve-and-volleyers and both are
right-handed.  Does their style of play have to do with
their vulnerability to left-handers?  Or is their poor
stats against lefties due more to the presence of guys like
Ivanisevic, Volkov, and Forget in the tournaments that they
play?

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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP championship - Nov 17: am
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:59:06 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$2.5 MILLION ATP CHAMPIONSHIP
AT FRANKFURT, GERMANY
TUESDAY'S RESULTS  
ROSEWALL GROUP
--------------
Stefan Edberg d. Petr Korda, 6-3,7-6 (11-9)

Pete Sampras vs. Boris Becker

LAVER GROUP
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Michael Chang vs. Goran Ivanisevic

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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Lendl Withdraws from the ATP Final
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:28:17 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: clin@capacitance.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Nov16.031320.4969@research.nj.nec.com>, tim@research.nj.nec.com (Tim Van Der Avoird) writes:
>
>Can somebody inform me about the way he defeated Courier and
>Woodforde?

   Offhand, I would say the serve, but I didn't see it.

>
>I do appreciate the posting of the results very much, but I think that
>it is a pity that only now and then reports on tennis matches are
>posted. Of course, I realize that we are all volunteers and that I
>should be happy that results are posted. So, I do understand that
>asking for 4 pages of reports, analyses, etc. is not realistic, but
>maybe one or two lines on each match could be included. Something like:
>
>Puthoven - Becker 6-0 6-0 6-0
>
>[Although Becker had the best of the game he failed to make this match
>HIS match. Puthoven won mainly because of his great back hand.]
>
>Maybe a bit longer, but this will give interested readers an idea of
>why the results are what they are (or: aren't what they should be).

    The main problem is that while people are able to post results,
it's not always because they see the match, but get scores from
the newspaper, or other sources.   From the few short games between
Woodforde and Chang, it looks like Woodforde was hitting his forehand
well.   His backhand is mostly a sliced backhand, and he appears to
be an aggressive baseliner, i.e. someone who tries to get to the
net when he can, but is not a true serve and volleyer, a la Edberg.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: VS Phillies results...
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:07:55 GMT
 <1992Nov16.135155.3545@cs.wayne.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov16.135155.3545@cs.wayne.edu>
faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong) writes:

> One may win one match due
> to luck, but it's quite difficult to win a couple that way
 
Arantxa Sanchez is a tennis leach who sucks the patience of her
opponents and wins with their errors. She's an arrogant BRAT who most
players don't like on the tour because of her annoying habit to circle
the ball marks on clay and to stop in the middle of the point. But
again, the only reason she does that is because SHE CAN ONLY WIN BY HER
OPPONENTS ERRORS. You can't tell me that only in a Sanchez match do
circumstances arrive to circle all those marks. NO, Only the other
players have enough class and talent to say to themselves "that's
alright I'll just play better". She makes arrogant commments like
saying that she's mastered all the games of the top players!! Huh?
She's won ONE Grand Slam all the way back in '89!! 

However I have nothing against her chunkiness but I also don't think
its really an insult.

Just another Fan (Except of course for AS),
Joe Marcheso
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From: 000087384@cats.ucis.vill.edu (GUNNA, SANDEEP)
Subject: Who won the Grand Slams this year?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Villanova University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:34:00 GMT


Been a lond time since I kept track of the circuit but,
Who won the Grand Slams this year among the men.
I remember Seles won three(who else) and Steffi took
Wimbeldon among te women,
Thanks

->sandeep