From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Freedom or persecution
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 04:49:19 GMT

In article <9210161601.aa17030@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> ahu@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Amy Hu) writes:
>
>I don't think you understood my article entirely, or may be you just want to
>cut out pieces of it so that you'll have a target to flame on.  Should latter
>be the case, then sorry pal, I'm not going to waste my time.  Perhaps you
>should re-read my article.  I believe I said something about "if you don't
>agree with Mr. Yeh, take him to court".  Talk is CHEAP you know.

I only read your article once. My eye scanning may have errors,
but statistically not significant. If I don't agree with Mr. Yeh,
I will not take him to court. If I take everyone with whom I 
disagree to the court, the judge would consider that I am insane.
I only do CHEAP talk with people with whom I disagree.

However, not if I or my family is hurt or suffered personal demage.
I that case, I will go to court. That is why I suggest people who
have suffered potential demage from Yeh should take him to court.

>Hey, if you really have the ability to keep your job, I don't think anybody
>can take it away from you.  However on the other hand, if you're an imbecile,
>you don't need anybody to send your boss a letter to lose a job.  You sounded
>like you're feeling insecure of your current job.

You are right to some extent. But not always. At least we have seen
from Holywood movies that a person's life can be demaged not because
of his personal responsibility, or at least not entirely. 

Your last sentence again sounds arrogant. Many people work hard because
they feel insecure. Statistically, people who feel secure tend to
become corruptive. Communism intended to make everyone feel secure
about job, it has been shown to be non-productive. I wish I were
insecure, at least I like the feeling of being insecure.

>Frankly I can care less where your son was born.  For all I know he might be
>the next president of the United States.  I think you're having problem
>understanding the context of the article.  Folks, this is a typical
>example of a Chinese old lady trying to compare her merchandise with her
>neighbors.  I believe you had some sort of education.  If not, I think you
>need to go back to school and learn how to refute an article.

I know you care less about my son's birthplace because it has
nothing to do with you (or may be a little because he might be
the next president :-)). Similarly who cares about your citizenship
and where you "spent most of your life".

>Since when LEGAL ACTION became ASSASSINATION??????????  More education,
>definitely!!!!!!

If all the netters have done are CHEAP talk and LEGAL ACTION, why
do you think Yeh's freedom of speech has been violated?

>Hey Mr., life is not always the way you want it to be.  If you can live
>happily, and not so defensively, I'm sure you can tolerate discrimination.
>It's inevitable, unless you're white (even white people experience
>discrimination).  I hope you're not implying that you're only interested in
>the "part of the package" that's beneficial to you and not the rest, because
>that's not going to work.  By the way, as a citizen, I do have the previledge
>of having my voice heard through voting, even though it is very minute.  I
>hope when you get yours, you can do the same.

Why do you think I am defensive? I tend to think that you are defensive
in the last sentence. I suggest a group you can go to claim your
citizenship and voting right: alt.politics.clinton or alt.politics.bush.
Your claim would be much more appreciated there than here. Most
people here don't have voting right of this country and they tend to 
dislike you because you are different from them. You are discriminated 
here :-).

>I'm confused here.  Who are they and who's everyone???  I hope you're not
>trying to speak for everyone in your country, and in this country.

My comments are objective. I use they to refer to a group of people
who have some common interests. Everyone is a global set. They
is a subset of everyone. I am not in they, therefore I am not
speaking FOR everyone. I am only speak ABOUT everyone.