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From: troll@sug.org (A. Newman)
Subject: Re: SUG memberships
Organization: Sun User Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:18:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.171329.11288@shearson.com> fgreco@cfdev1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco) writes:
>	A coupla questions:
>
>>Become a SUG member today!
>>
>>*  Vendor Discounts
>
>	Does anyone keep the vendor discount information centralized?
>	Qualix offered the NYSLUG a nice discount on Aviator for
>	a while, but I wondered if the national SUG was ever notified.

The member benefits are printed in README as a master list once a
year, summarized in our promotional literature (like the stuff I
posted), and announced in README as new ones are added.  Additionally
a master list, with contact information, etc. is posted here every
quarter or so.

Vendors rarely tell us about deals they strike up with the LUGs; they
assume they LUGs are local chapters.  If a vendor does offer you a
good deal, more power to you...and why not mention it to us? ;-)
Incidentally, Qualix offers a 15% discount to all SUG members.

>>*  Local User Group Support
>
>	As I understand it, the locals are *totally* (legally)
>	independent from the SUG.  If I am incorrect, what is the
>	*formal* relationship between the SUG and the LUGS?  Can
>	I use the name of SUG on letterhead to get soft/hardware
>	donations from corporations?

The LUGs are separate entities form SUG.  If you are a member of SUG,
that does not entitle you to be a member of a dues-charging LUG, and
vice-versa.  The formal relationship with the LUGs is that we help
with startup by offering use of our mailing list for your geographic
area; we help maintain the LUGs by allowing them to purchase SUG
products at a bulk rate or discount; and we facilitate and encourage
information exchange between the LUGs.  However, you cannot use the
name 'Sun USer Group', our logo or our letterhead - and, in fact,
we've had to request that some of the foreign groups stop doing so.

>	Frank G.
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Alex Newman
Membership and Publications Manager
Sun User Group
troll@sug.org
(617) 232-0514	voice
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Sunergy eschews Sun Users...
Organization: The World
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:54:54 GMT


Although asked repeatedly over a period of months, SunEnergy refuses
to list the SUG conference in their "comprehensive list of computer
industry trade shows". Queries go unanswered.

Their text even invites additions. Surely the Sun User Group, the
oldest and most successful Sun trade show, would merit being in their
schedule.

Why?

Please express your displeasure with this to:

>Editor:   Miyong   Byun.   Contact   the  Sunergy editors over email at:
>sunergy_information@Sun.COM.

You might want to copy the SunFlash editor also as that is the mailing
list on which Sunergy posts their info: flash@sunvice.East.Sun.COM or
other relevant e-addresses.

If people want a User Group perhaps it's time to be heard. Thank you.

Relevant text for reference:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-                            UPCOMING EVENTS                              -
---------------------------------------------------------------------------


**************************
*7*  Tradeshow Calendar  *
**************************

Although Sun does not participate in all  of  the  following  shows,  we
present this comprehensive list of computer industry tradeshows for your
planning purposes.  If you know of other shows or events that  would  be
of  interest to our readers, please send your suggestions to the Sunergy
staff (see the top banner of this newsletter for an email address).

SHOW DATES (92)         SHOW NAME               LOCATION

November 10-12          AUTOFACT                Detroit, MI
November 11-13          UNIFORUM                Stockholm, Sweden
November 16-20          COMDEX                  Las Vegas, NV
November 16-17          SUNWORLD EXPO/EUUG      Wiesbaden, Germany
November 25-27		EUROPEN/UNIFORUM	Utrecht, Netherlands
December 9-11           UNIX FAIR '92           Tokyo, Japan


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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,mi.misc
Subject: Re: SUG memberships
Date: 10 Nov 1992 05:47:57 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Let me get this straight, Semislug (meeting Thursday in Ann Arbor, by the
way) cannot call itself a "Sun User Group" without incurring the wrath of
SUG Central?  I suppose next you bear down on unauthorized use of LUG (tm)
by other Local User Groups from other vendors?

sheesh,

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
  (see the MSEN Gopher, gopher.msen.com, for the SEMiSLUG announcement)

A. Newman (troll@sug.org) wrote:
: 
: >>*  Local User Group Support
: 
: The LUGs are separate entities form SUG....  
: However, you cannot use the
: name 'Sun USer Group', our logo or our letterhead - and, in fact,
: we've had to request that some of the foreign groups stop doing so.
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: fgreco@shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Subject: NYSLUG Meeting Announcement
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:42:28 GMT



                New York Regional Sun Local User Group Meeting
	          (Sponsored and Hosted by Visix Software)

	"Galaxy - A High Performance Workstation Application Environment"

When:
      Tuesday, November 24, 1992
      6:30 pm - 8:30 pm


Where:
      Marriot Financial Center (385-4900)
      2nd Floor Financial Ballroom
      85 West Street (2 blocks South of World Trade Center)
      New York City, NY 


Who/What:
      Representatives from Visix Software will discuss and demonstrate
      "Galaxy", an application environment that is portable among many
      different architectures including X Window (both Motif and OPEN
      LOOK), MS Windows and Macintosh.  Applications can be built that
      are run-time switchable among the various look-and-feels.  Galaxy
      also offers portable abstractions for the filesystem, distributed
      computing, postscript rendering, hypertext help, user interface
      building all with C/C++ programmatic interfaces.

      Considering we have limited space at the Marriot, please RSVP
      to "fgreco@mercury.com" or by telephone.

  ** Complimentary Refreshments are courtesy of Visix Software. **


for further information on the NYSLUG contact:

	Frank D. Greco		Philip Meese
	(908)-754-7820		(212)-242-3891
	fgreco@mercury.com	pmeese@mercury.com

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Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sunergy eschews Sun Users...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:56:50 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
Distribution: comp
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In article <BZS.92Nov11165454@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
>Although asked repeatedly over a period of months, SunEnergy refuses
>to list the SUG conference in their "comprehensive list of computer
>industry trade shows". Queries go unanswered.
>
>Their text even invites additions. Surely the Sun User Group, the
>oldest and most successful Sun trade show, would merit being in their
>schedule.
>
>Why?
>
>Please express your displeasure with this to:
>
>>Editor:   Miyong   Byun.   Contact   the  Sunergy editors over email at:
>>sunergy_information@Sun.COM.
>
>You might want to copy the SunFlash editor also as that is the mailing
>list on which Sunergy posts their info: flash@sunvice.East.Sun.COM or
>other relevant e-addresses.
>
>If people want a User Group perhaps it's time to be heard. Thank you.

I am more inclined to think this is simply ignorance than any overt
attempt to exclude SUG from Sun Mailings. I may be wrong and don't know
the politics involved, but I have had to deal with the Sunergy people
before and I would not be surprised at all to find out they have never
touched a SUN in their lives.

The statement above makes it clear they don't even know SUG exists.

Maybe try explaining it to them again.

Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: fgreco@cfdev1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Subject: Re: SUG memberships
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:13:29 GMT

	A coupla questions:

>Become a SUG member today!
>
>*  Vendor Discounts

	Does anyone keep the vendor discount information centralized?
	Qualix offered the NYSLUG a nice discount on Aviator for
	a while, but I wondered if the national SUG was ever notified.

>*  Local User Group Support

	As I understand it, the locals are *totally* (legally)
	independent from the SUG.  If I am incorrect, what is the
	*formal* relationship between the SUG and the LUGS?  Can
	I use the name of SUG on letterhead to get soft/hardware
	donations from corporations?

	Frank G.
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From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
Subject: Re: SUG directors election
Date: 10 Nov 1992 22:12:23 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedoors.meaddata.com

In article <1992Oct23.021825.1370@menudo.uh.edu> stan@casc.math.uh.edu (Stan Hanks) writes:
>   There were no further qualified candidates.  Despite *NUMEROUS* calls for 
>   nominations. And we had to go recruit at least one of the guys who is
>   on the ballot. 

I do not describe "numerous" as something restricted to one medium. From
a posting by someone else on this subject we were told after the fact to
look at Readme about the nomination process.

How about, oh I don't know, posting to comp.orgs.sug? Or sending out
a special mailer to a person's e-mail address? Even physical address?

The last time I ever heard a call for nominations was back in 1987
when I was attending the So Cal SLUG meetings at Caltech and they
started getting people interested in running for board members. Granted
I am not a religious Readme reader, especially when I get it 3 months
late because my current address never gets updated. Hint, Hint.

The other issue here is why should we get involved with an organization
that seems secular and destined for obscurity? I feel it had potential
at one time, but now I am just apathetic concerning SUG. That is a
bad emotion, yes, but it has resulted from SUG's approach to dealing with
members and local groups.

What are you (SUG board members) doing to change this?

Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunergy eschews Sun Users...
Organization: The World
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:14:14 GMT


>I am more inclined to think this is simply ignorance than any overt
>attempt to exclude SUG from Sun Mailings. I may be wrong and don't know
>the politics involved, but I have had to deal with the Sunergy people
>before and I would not be surprised at all to find out they have never
>touched a SUN in their lives.

>The statement above makes it clear they don't even know SUG exists.

Perhaps.

But Miyong Byun, editor of the Sunergy newsletter and the address
inquiries are sent to, worked for SUG for about three years until
around the time of last year's conference.

You might think she knew we existed and about our annual conference...

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From: ohnielse@oersted.ltf.dth.dk (Ole Holm Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
Subject: SUG membership application form ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:34:32 GMT
Reply-To: ohnielse@oersted.ltf.dth.dk
Organization: Lab of Applied Physics, Tech. Univ. of Denmark

Can anyone E-mail me an SUG membership application form ?

With best regards,

Ole H. Nielsen
Laboratory of Applied Physics, Building 307
Technical University of Denmark, DK-2800 Lyngby, Denmark
E-mail: Ole.Holm.Nielsen@ltf.dth.dk
Telephone: (+45) 42 88 24 88 ext. 3187
Telefax:   (+45) 45 93 23 99
From: richards@beta.lanl.gov (William C. Richards)
Subject: San Antonio and Golf
Followup-To: rec.travel
Keywords: San Antonio Golf
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:06:24 GMT

I will be traveling to San Antonio at the end of this month for a Conference
and was planning on playing some golf while I was there.  I was wondering if
I could get some net recommendations on courses, prices, reservation policies,
and such?

I am posting this to the comp.org.usenix and comp.org.usenix.roomshare
newsgroups since the summer conference was held there in June.  Since I didn't
get to attend that one, I was hoping to get some advice from fellow USENIX
members who did.

Much thanks in advance.

Peter Richards
richards@beta.lanl.gov
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Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: rcb@ncsu.edu (Randy Buckland)
Subject: Next Usenix?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:53:51 GMT

Can anyone tell me when/where the next winter and summer usenix's 
(usenixi? usenixeses?) are?

--
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North Carolina State University               in a group when you're
randy_buckland@ncsu.edu (919) 515-5491        omnipotent"       -- Q
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From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Sys Admin Survey Results - Any year
Date: 10 Nov 1992 22:26:59 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedoors.meaddata.com

Can someone please post the location of the sys admin survey results
that Rob had collected from last year that was mentioned at LISA VI?
Of course this topic of discussion has come up at work and I didn't
pay attention to where I could find the results from last year's
survey.

Hey Rob. You mentioned you might need a reminder to get the results
out for this year's survey. I know its a little soon, so don't think I'm
being a slave driver. Just reminding you.

Thaks much,

Brian
From: carolyn@usenix.ORG (Carolyn Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: USENIX Student Grant Application Form
Keywords: USENIX Association
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:27:05 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley


        	USENIX Association Student Attendee Grant
			   Application Form

The Association will award a limited number of grants (to cover travel,
accommodations and registration fees) to full-time students interested
in attending the USENIX Winter 1993 Technical Conference, January 25
- 29, 1993 in San Diego, California.

Interested full-time students should return this form together with a
copy of their current student identification to:

	  	          Diane DeMartini 
		 	USENIX Association
		   2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215
			Berkeley, CA 94710

NOTE:  We cannot consider your application without a copy of your
current student identification card.

Applications must arrive by December 15, 1992.

If you have not yet received information about registration,
please contact the USENIX conference office at tel: 714/588-8649.

_______________________________________________________
Name  
______________________________________________________
Street Address 
_____________________________________________________
City,  State,  Zip Code
___________________________    ______________________
Phone number		       e-mail address
____________________________
Academic institution

Expense Request (Please estimate as best you can.)

Travel:			_________

Accommodation:		_________

Registration fees:
Technical sessions - $75.________

Total Requested:	$_________

___________________________________
Date / Signature

Are you presenting a paper at this conference? _____ yes
Have you ever received a USENIX Student Grant? ____ yes ____ no ___ date
Are you a member of USENIX Association?  ____ yes    ____ no

As a student, you may receive regular member benefits for only
$20.  If you are interested, please contact office@usenix.org.

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From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: Next Usenix?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 18:03:32 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedoors.meaddata.com

In article <rcb.721576431@news.ncsu.edu> rcb@ncsu.edu (Randy Buckland) writes:
>Can anyone tell me when/where the next winter and summer usenix's 
>(usenixi? usenixeses?) are?

Winter Usenix is Jan 25-29 in San Diego at the Town and Country Hotel
and Convention Center.

Summer Usenix is June 21-25 in Cincinnati at the Hyatt Hotel and
Cincinnati Convention Center

Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford)
Subject: Re: Damaged font suitcases?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:15:20 GMT

re using Font/DA Mover 4.1 to open damaged suitcases:

I've tried this, and it works (sort of).... The bad part is that then
the System file cannot be opened by double clicking; the damage appears
to spread...

Any other suggestions?

Jim
From: crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Star Trek NEXT GEN. font!  --REQUEST--
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:50:02 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

The Crillee font is the Star Trek Next Generation _titling_ font. It's
what they use in the credits. If you want the font used to create the
logo, download the Star Trek collection of fonts from mac.archive.umich.edu.
It has both, plus the fonts from the original series and the movies.

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: mpeters@pax.eunet.ch (MBX Michael Peters)
Subject: Seek PCL-type font editor 
Organization: EUnet Login/Mailbox Service
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:36:29 GMT


I'm posting this for a friend, but what he wants is to be able to
edit HP laserprinter soft fonts.

Please mail me any info, 

TIA (thanks in advance)

mike.


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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: varnas@dmpe.csiro.au (Saulius Varnas)
Subject: Character set of Windows TT fonts
Organization: CSIRO Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:34:28 GMT

I am looking for good quality Windows 3.1 TrueType fonts that have in their
character set "dot accent" and "ogonek" accents as separate characters. Can
anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Saulius Varnas  <varnas@dmpe.csiro.au>
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Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 16:02:26 CET
From: <K3003E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Wanted: TT character mapping utility

Does anyone out there know how to change the mapping of truetype-fonts for
MS Windows? A simple utility to swap two characters would be enough.

Ulrich
K3003E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET
From: walver@kielo.uta.fi (Ville V. Walveranta)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: StarTrek Clip-art
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:50:29 GMT
Reply-To: walver@uta.fi (Ville Walveranta)
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland


        Did you purchase 'Star-Trek' clip-art (100 CGM images) from
        'Computer Safari' or some other source? If you did, *please*
        send me email at my address! Thanks.

        -- Willy
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: abigail@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Shawn Abigail)
Subject: Wanted: True Type font editor
Summary: True Type Font Editor
Keywords: font
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:46:24 GMT


Can anyone suggest a program that allows you to edit or create new True
Type Fonts?  I want to create some fonts for an African language that
has characters completely unlike English.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Shawn Abigail
abigail@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca

From: Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org (Dave Beaujean)
Sender: FredGate@davespc.mi.org
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: mac tt to pc fonts converter
Distribution: world
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:04:00 EST

Hi All!

Does anyone know of a program to convert mac tt fonts
to a format of any sort on a pc. Once I get a pc font,
tt or type 1, I can convert hat but I can't find anything to
convert mac tt fonts. Any help would be appreciated very much!!!
Dave



Newsgroups: comp.fonts