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From: bassman@iastate.edu (Bass Genius)
Subject: CD's for sale
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:31:02 GMT


Hi, its CD liquidation time again.
These CD's are in excellent condition, but I don't listen to them anymore.
I would like to get $9 per disk and $18 per double disk (includes shipping in
contenental U.S.)

SINGLE DISKS

Cocktail 		Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Damn Yankees		Damn Yankees
Guns N' Roses		G N' R Lies
Scorpions		Crazy World
Slaughter		Stick It To Ya
Tesla			Five Man Acoustical Jam
Warrant 		Cherry Pie
Whitesnake		Whitesnake
Winger			In The Heart Of The Young
ZZ Top			Eliminator

DOUBLE DISKS

Rush			Chronicles

As always I will entertain any reasonable offer.
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*    bassman@iastate.edu         !        going, you aren't there yet!       *
*    tac40@ccvax.iastate.edu     |                G. Carlin                  * 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: msengup@eos.ncsu.edu (MAITREYA  SENGUPTA)
Subject: Re: Notched CDs
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:22:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.184608.27352@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, rho@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Richard Ho) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> You'll have to excuse me if this is covered in some FAQ or
|> is common knowledge ( I can't find a FAQ for this group ).
|> 
|> I noticed that very often, "new" CDs that are sold very
|> cheaply have this "notch" that's been cut into the box.
|> 
|> I've bought these CDs before and except for the box, it
|> seems like a good purchase to me. Does this notch mean
|> anything? Were these CDs rejected for some reason and
|> marked?
|> 
|> Was someone careless when cutting open a shipping box???  ;-)
|> 
|> Inquiring minds and all that jazz ....
|> 
|> Thanks!
|> 
|> Richard.
|> 
|> 
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	I think you are talking about 'cut-outs' .....as the CD retailers call 
them...probably a reference to the 'notch' in the case. I talked to some store
owners about this, and they seem to feel that these are just a result of over-
stocking. Some CD's sell less than the retailer/record company anticipated, and
so the stores are stuck will many copies of dead stock. These CD's are some-
times sold at discount prices, and the boxes are 'notched' or cut-out on 
purpose to indicate this.

	To the best of my knowledge, the notch does not usually indicate any
problem with the quality of the CD. At least, I have on some occasions seen
someone in a CD store just pick up all copies of a particular CD (I think it
was Yes-Union) from the normal sale bin, cut out notches on the boxes, replace
the 13.99 price stickers with 6.99 sale stickers, and place them in the 
reduced price bin.

Regards;

Maitreya Sengupta.
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: One way to keep CD cases in good condition
Summary: use plastic sandwich bags
Keywords: CD longevity plastic sandwich bag preservation
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:01:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


        I don't know if one of the readers has already come up with this idea
and posted it, but the best and cheapest way I have found to preserve CD cases
is to use plastic sandwich bags as protective sleeves.

        A good brand for standard single-CD cases is the 6+5/8 in. x 5+7/8 in.
Glad-Lock Zipper Sandwich Bags.  They come 50 bags to the box.  (Bigger boxes
may be available, but I don't know.)

        Another bag to try is the Jewel Reclosable Sandwich Bags with Snap &
Seal Top.  These are 6.5 in. x 5+7/8 in. x 1.15 mil, and come 100 to the box.
They fit more snugly than the Glad-Locks -- in fact, you have to stretch the
bag when putting it on -- but they are cheaper, and they seem to do an equally
good job despite the inability to avoid the bag rubbing against the sides of
the jewel box when the bag is put on.  (This rubbing doesn't seem to damage the
box.)

        I'd be interested in hearing what other CD owners use in order to keep
their CD cases from getting scuffed.


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
From: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Looking for CD
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:09:11 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I have heard rumours of a bootleg U2 compact disc with demos of stuff 
from "Achtung Baby!" and some other songs.  It is supposed to be only 
available in Germany for the time being.  If anybody knows where I can 
get this CD, please leave me email, as myself and a friend of mine both 
want this CD.

Greg Granger              ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 19:45:51 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:

> The point is, if you're going to talk about late-60's garage music and
> you haven't listened to and read the back cover of the _Nuggets_
> compilation (where the word "punk" was used, in 1972, to refer to late-
> 60's garage bands like the Count Five), then you know not wherefore you
> speak, and Laz has a duty as a net.god to banish you to the fires of
> alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy. 

Sheez, I wouldn't wish that on *anybody*.  I'd like to banish some people to
a library that has copies of Bangs' _Psychotic Reactions_ for a weekend,
though.  If you're interested in that era of music (or not . . . I certainly
wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan), it's a damned entertaining read.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"Hear And Feel . . . Feel And Dig"
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL P DIXON)
Subject: BMG Phone Number
Originator: mpdixon@c00766-135wl.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL P DIXON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:17:29 GMT


Help, I tried the number in the article to call and cancel the selection of
the month service and it is not BMG.  Please check the 1-800 number that was 
posted and repost a correct one.  Thanks abunch!

Mike Dixon
mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu
From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CDs are timebombs?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:43:58 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <1992Oct14.093749.13565@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
>
>  I recently heard that CDs have a life of about 18 years....

I gotta say, I am *sick and tired* of this thread coming up month after
month. It never ever dies.

Some people say 10 years. Some people say 100 years. Some people say 20 years.
The truth is, no one really knows, because no one has had a CD become 
unplayable on them yet. When CDs were first being released, there was a 
company that did use destructive paint that ruined the musical contents
of the CD, but that was a while ago, all of those CDs have been eaten through,
and the company stopped that practice a long time ago. The first CD I ever
bought is now seven years old (Big Audio Dynamite's first CD) and it still
plays fine. Many people who read this newsgroup have CDs that are plenty older
than that and none of them has reported an unplayable CD yet. When they do,
you can be sure we'll be the first to know.

-- 
					- Adam J Weitzman
					  weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
"All our life is spent in this permanent brainwashed contempt."
	- Meat Beat Manifesto
From: JBK5@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Aliens ate my Buick
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:17:40 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <wepjxWa00j42FC40NZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, totb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy
York) says:
>
>Does anyone know if this Thomas Dolby release is available on cd?  I

i picked it up as a "budget buster" or whatever the hell they are called
($8.99) awhile back and have seen them around here since then.

jk
From: peter@spider.co.uk (Peter Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Gold CDs (was CDs are timebombs?)
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:23:44 GMT
	<1992Oct14.182936.26461@ncsu.edu>
	<1992Oct14.202004.3280@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK


   >is that if your CD has a very deep scratch the aluminum may oxidize and the
   >CD would not operate correctly.  That is why they cave come out with the 
   >overpriced "GOLD" CD's.  They should not have that problem if scratched.
   >The moral of the story, DON'T SCRATCH YOUR CD'S!

Peter dredges up old chemistry classes...

When a thin layer of aluminium oxide forms it acts as a barrier to further
oxidation of the underlying metal (unlike iron oxide, which still lets
oxygen through to the unoxidised iron), so if a little scratch did form
that got through to the metal layer, wouldn't that just cause a little,
localised defect (that might be small enough to be coped with by the error
handling features of the player)?  Unless the plastic covering isn't bonded
properly to the metal, letting oxygen seep all the way in.

I'm off home to scratch an old CD down to the metal layer, to see what
happens.  Progress will be reported over the next few weeks...

Mr Empirical


   Having just read the above, I notice how many words I (UK man) spell
   differently (like "al-yoo-MIN-yum", instead of "a-LOO-minum").  Funny old
   world...

   Pity us poor folk in Britain, where CDs are (on average?) 12 pounds (20
   dollars on today's exchange rate, before sterling becomes a third world
   currency).  How I miss all the used CD shops in the US... sigh

--
Peter Reid - Project Consultant      |   Spider Systems Limited
                                     |   Spider Park, Stanwell Street
- peter@spider.co.uk                 |   Edinburgh, EH6 5NG, Scotland
- peter%spider.co.uk@uunet.uu.net    |   +44 31 554 9424 (Ext 4021)
From: kjm6@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: soundtrack for the movie "somewhere in time"
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:57:12 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Oct5.015833.6905@ee.ubc.ca>, chiac@ee.ubc.ca (chia-tung chen) writes:
> Dear Netters,
>   Could someone please give me a clue on how to find the CD for the
> soundtrack of the movie "somewhere in time". I like the music in the
> movie very much. I don't know how to find out whether there is a CD
> for it or not. Thank you for your help. BTW, I tried to log onto
> cs.uwp.edu, and I got lost in there. I don't know how to access all
> the information in that FTP site.
> 
There is a CD  available.  I have a copy on cassette.  I got it when I
was in Wash. DC but I believe it is also in my home area of Scranton , PA
You may try a dealer and ask to see their ordering catalog.  Most dealers will
be happy to place a special order for you if you give them a deposit.
Hope this helps.
By the way ... the music is composed by John Barry who also wrote the music for 
Dances with Wolves, Out of Africa, High Road to China, and most of the 
James Bond movies.  Somewhere in Time is a very good representation of his
composition style.  If you liked that soundtrack, you'll LOVE these!!!
					Ken Moss
					University of Scranton
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Aliens ate my Buick
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:52:04 GMT

In article <wepjxWa00j42FC40NZ@andrew.cmu.edu> totb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy York) writes:
>Does anyone know if this Thomas Dolby release is available on cd?  I
>found a cassette copy recently, but have never been able to find it in a
>store or in the Noteworthy catalog.

Don't know about cd,

but recently the grocery store across the street from where I work
was selling the vinyl (12") version of this album
in their One Dollar bins.

I bought a copy because I liked the cover.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Bladerunner Soundtrack
X-Xxdate: Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:33:47 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:27:07 GMT


This is a followup to the thread of a week or so ago regarding the
Bladerunner soundtrack's availability.  A couple of people wanted me to
verify something I said - so here it goes:

From Details (Oct. '92) _Blade Runner_ pg. 113

Kate Haber (partner of Blade Runner's producer Michael Deeley) said - 
"Ridley had Vangelis do the music.  But during production, Ridley would
send Vangelis - who lived in Europe -  completed scenes of the film to
score.  Every time Vangelis would finish scoring a scene, Ridley would
change something in the scene, knocking off the timing for the music. 
Vangelis would have to redo everything.  That pissed him off so much, he
eventually refused to release the soundtrack commercially as an album."

So there you have it.  A reasonable way of explaining away the lack of a
Blade Runner soundtrack.  (BTW, someone in the Netherlands told me that
they have seen it as a 'mid price' CD.  Contact "carlog@wg.estec.esa.nl"
for more info.)

Also, I'm not too interested in getting the soundtrack and am only
providing this bit o' info for any who might want more details.
-----------------------------------
email: Brady_David@Tandem.Com

Remember, David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Info on Technotronic "Move This" 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 04:25:58 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

mgraham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Malcolm Graham) writes:

> The second album _Body to Body_ is not available in the U.S. except as
> an import.  

I'm sure it'll get released here.  SBK just reissued _Pump Up The Jam -- The
Album_ . . . with a new Felly-free cover, to boot.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: One way to keep CD cases in good condition
Summary: use plastic sandwich bags
Keywords: CD longevity plastic sandwich bag preservation
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:04:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.030156.454@en.ecn.purdue.edu> davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) writes:

>        I'd be interested in hearing what other CD owners use in order to keep
>their CD cases from getting scuffed.

Um, nothing? 
	Gee, I thought that the jewel boxes were to keep the CDs from 
getting scuffed. Now that I know that I have to keep the jewel boxes 
themselves from being scuffed I'm just mortified. I don't have the money to 
buy 500 little jewel box sleeves. I'm ruined. Oh woe is me. . .
	Wait a minute John, what do you use to keep the plastic bags from 
getting scratched and scraped? Have you ever thought of THAT!!??


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
==============================================================================
--"It's the sound of the secret--  jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
-- machinery at the center of  --  jjonsson@utahlib.bitnet
-- the world." -Cliff Steele   --  "You talkin' to me?"
From: Dave.Jenkins@cm.cf.ac.uk (Dave Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: James Bonds
Keywords: Bond 007 OST
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:03:13 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.


	Does anyone know when the OSTs to the Bond movies are due
	to be re-issued?

	A recent ad in Q magazine said that six or seven Bond sound
	tracks will be shortly re-issued in the UK followed by a
	futher seven at a later date.

	Does anyone have more details?

	Dave.
From: rene@MV3600.BMEN.TULANE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CDs mastered at a too low volume level?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:28:46 GMT
Reply-To: rene@MV3600.BMEN.TULANE.EDU
Organization: TULANE, BMEN, NEW ORLEANS, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-6978]: mv3600.bmen.tulane.edu


     I've had a bigger problem with Christopher Cross' Another Page. When I
recorded some of the songs on tape, I really had to turn up the Rec. level
knob (I record almost everything at a Rec. level of 3-4). I've noticed
something similar on other CDs, but this (Another Page) is to me your worst
case scenario.


             R. Salazar
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen)
Subject: BMG - Led Zep Boxed Set
Organization: Vestek Systems, San Francisco
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 23:31:55 GMT

     Could someone tell me if they know the # for the
Led Zeppelin box set (the 4 CD set,not the 3 Cd set),
and if they ordered it through BMG, did it come complete
with the book.

     Thanks, Marcus

Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6862 rec.music.marketplace:1701 rec.music.misc:24914
From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.marketplace,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED: _Starfleet Project_ by Brian May & Friends (CD)
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:46:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvtG4y.JwC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

>The subject says it all.  I believe that this has just gone out of print,
>but if anyone knows where i could still find a copy (or two) would you
>please let me know?  The title again is:

>_Starfleet Project_
>by Brian May & Friends

>I believe that this is an EP CD


  This was never available on CD.  It was rumored that it was going to
  be released on CD earlier this year, but Brian is waiting until his
  solo album, which was released last week in Europe, is released in
  the US, February 1993.

  Once again, this has never been released on CD anywhere in the world,
  only on album back in 1983 and has been long since deleted...


-- 
Dan Blanchard                                    Internet: barfmaster@uiuc.edu  
site consultant for CCSO                       Bitnet: DBLANCHA@UIUCVMD.BITNET 
at the University of Illinois   NeXT Voice email: dlb54694@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Elton John and Queen fan extra-ordinare
From: UnoJ
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of the "Neverend" limited release of Pink Floyd ...
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:11:28 GMT
Organization: CIT
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cumin.bio.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct12.180211.2740@mcc.com> ong@mcc.com (Kayliang Ong) writes:
>This weekend, I went to a record store and get to listen
>briefly to a limited release of a Pink Floyd album called
>Neverend, a two disc set with a large red triangular box.
>It looks really strange and I did not know of such album existed
>by the group (As I try to collect as many as possible).
>
>The album was recorded in the seventies after the Dark side of
>the moon. It have pretty much the same songs as DSOTM but
>more songs and the songs are performed slightly differently.
>Also, it is recorded somewhere in italy. I did not get to
>listen to the whole album but would definitely love to have
>it. The only problem is that it is very pricy, for $70 and
>I would like to find from anyone out there whether it is indeed
>so rare that it deserves $70 for 2 discs. Also, if you have
>heard of the complete album, what do think of it ?
>Also, how can I get it at a cheaper price ?

I have it too, bought it in Italy while I was there this summer.
Some of these _bootlegs_ are legal in other countries and I found it 
there in one of their largest record chains. If you want a cheaper
price, you can try buying _Goldmine_ and checking out some
vendors who might carry it.
What do I think of it? Pass.... it's not great. It does not, repeat
_not_ contain any rare stuff really. It's just a couple of live
cancerts of the entire _Dark Side_ and _Wish_ tours. The
quality of the _Dark Side_ concert is very good, but the
quality of the _Wish concert is poor-good. The typical audience
recording from the middle seventies: too close to one speaker
and with a very cheap tape player. Yech. Don't spend your money 
on it. And you were mistaken about the origins of the recordings:
the Neverend series is ditributed by an Italian company called
Abraxas, and the record/CD you saw is called _She Kisses Like a
Machine_. But the jacket claims that the recordings were from English dates,
the first one in January of 1973 in Salisbury and the second one in 1975
sometime. Get _Forbidden Samples_ instead. This is a live
recordind of _Dark Side_ also, but very primitive. Much more primitive
than the version they have on the Abraxas release and also much more
interesting....


    UnoJ


>
>Also, can someone post a complete list of albums by the group
>including rare releases.
>
>Also, I am interested if the movie The Wall available on laser disc
>as well as other video such as Live in Berlin. I know they are on tape.
>
>Also, where and how can I get them ?
>
>KayLiang Ong
>
>


Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: rho@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Richard Ho)
Subject: Notched CDs
Originator: rho@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:46:08 GMT



You'll have to excuse me if this is covered in some FAQ or
is common knowledge ( I can't find a FAQ for this group ).

I noticed that very often, "new" CDs that are sold very
cheaply have this "notch" that's been cut into the box.

I've bought these CDs before and except for the box, it
seems like a good purchase to me. Does this notch mean
anything? Were these CDs rejected for some reason and
marked?

Was someone careless when cutting open a shipping box???  ;-)

Inquiring minds and all that jazz ....

Thanks!

Richard.


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From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CDs are timebombs?
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:54:03 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

In article <1992Oct14.192735.7221@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:
>In rec.video, some poor soul wrote about having had his roof blown off 
>by the hurricane in Florida and his CD's being ruined by the water.

	That unfortunate person obviously didn't read the little message
that is printed on EVERY compact disc manufactured.  Right below the
company logo, it clearly states that you should "never expose this
disc to winds of over 150 miles per hour."  This person should have
stored all the jewel boxes in little plastic bags.

	(Note:  if your CD doesn't have the above warning message, it
has probably rotted off.  Return it to the manufacturer as "defective",
or replace the message yourself by etching it into the shiny side of
the disc with a diamond-tipped engraver.)

                                                        Dan

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