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From: nieusma@refuge.Colorado.EDU (Jeff Nieusma)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Conditions in the Cottonwoods
Keywords: Alta, Snowbird, Solitude, Brighton
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:39:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Who, me?  Organized?

Anyone know the conditions around SLC?  I'm going to be there tomorrow.
Should I bring my skis?  

Assuming it's skiable, where is the cheapest place to get tickets now?
At the areas or at the supermarket?

thanks.
From: brown@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Brown)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:15:20 GMT
Subject: Ski Racing for Kids?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

Hello!

I have a question about ski racing for children.  My daughter (8 yrs old)
has enjoyed doing quite a bit of NASTAR racing this season and has gotten
to the point where she consistently wins the "gold" medal.  From the
literature I have read about NASTAR there is quite a large handicap range
for winning the gold and so I wonder how meaningful the medal really is.

My daughter wants to continue racing next season and I'd like to
encourage that as long as she's enjoying it.  Does anyone know how I
could get information about other ski racing events for children here 
in Colorado?  Any particular areas which offer especially good lessons
or clinics for kids who like to race?

Finally, the question of helments came up in another basenote.  Since my
daughter is doing a lot of racing I was thinking it might be worthwhile
to encourage her to wear a helment while racing.  Anyone know of a good
distributor for ski helments for kids?

Thanks in advance for your advice!

John Brown
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: F9
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:00:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr7.190010.26223
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

I have great things about most of Salomon's skis both on this board and by
asking friends and aquaintances while on the slopes, but I'd like to put
in my $.02 about their bump skis... I have a friend who is sponsored by 
Salomon who just competed in Nationals for bump skiing. Now understand that
YES he does ski hard. But this season alone he has been through eight pairs
of skis. I have asked around, and this does not seem to be unusual for these
particular skis. Watch out if you are going to buy these, They are great when
they are in one piece, but they tend to SHATTER and therefore I have heard
that they don't last long...I also heard that they are trying to improve
them for next year. Just a friendly warning! 

						Todd S.
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Frozen North East!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:17:40 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Is the NorthEast finally dead for the season?
It's now April 16th and my local ski run has closed (sob) 2 weeks ago.
How's Vermont and Maine holding or is it all gone now?
 - Kirk
(Stuck in a warm, wet New Jersey)
From: 00drkoch@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:25:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Apr15.152522.6496

In article <1992Apr10.005425.15016@trl.oz.au>, harsant@headplant.trl.OZ.AU (Dave Harsant) writes:
> In article <1992Apr1.195741.7469@gtephx.UUCP> romanenkod@gtephx.UUCP (Dan Romanenko) writes:
>>
>>Telluride, for one, has this method of rating their slopes:
>>  Green
>>  Double Green
>>  Blue
>>  Double Blue
>>  Black
>>  Double Black
>>
> 
> I prefer white slopes myself.
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> And while on this subject, who was the clown who graded Rolex (at Steamboat)
> as Double Black?
I believ that Rolex is slope I was on about two or three years ago.  It was
labeld blue and had moguls that were waist high.  If it's the same slope it
deffinatley needed to be double black.

> 
> --
> Dave Harsant,
> AOTC Telecommunications Research Laboratories  |  d.harsant@trl.oz.au
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From: khe@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Keith Erskine)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Followup on moving from intermediate to expert skiing
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:57:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.skiing, byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes) writes:

> > >
> Many times I see college-aged guys with strong legs go bashing down bump
> runs.  Straight down the hill, bang, bang, bang.  Except for the lack of
> aerials, they look just like Olympic mogul bashers (until they crash like
> rag dolls).  All strength (and stupidity) and no technique.

Yo, Byrnes, lighten up!!!!!!!!!!!

If you can't tell the difference between mogul slammers who just hit
the top of each mogul and a world class mogul skiier carving turns in
bumps, you don't know what you're watching.  The difference is immediately
obvious - the best carve their turns, with precise, minimal, controlled
skids for speed control, keep their skis on the snow most of the time, 
maintain a perfectly still upper body, and can crank incredibly fast turns.  
Bad, overenthuisiastic mogul skiers just point 'em down, twist their skis 
in the air instead of carving turns, slam their skis off the top of each 
bump, upper body all over, usually leaning back - this is not pretty.  

I've seen Nelson Carmichael, up close and personal, ski down the Great Scott 
chute at Snowbird, and I was totally blown away - he did the fastest, 
smoothest, turns with a perfectly still upper body - truly impressive.  
He, as well as all the World Cup mogulers, are not just strong, their 
technique is in a class far above yours or mine.

BTW, I'm very biased, but I thought Carmichael skied smoother in the bumps
than Grospiron in the Olympics, but Grospiron definitely did better air.
Not that I think Grospiron shouldn't have won, he was definitely raging,
with what could be called a more exciting style, but personally I liked 
Carmichael's style better.  Heck, with all that snow falling, it was hard
to tell exactly who was doing what!!

Keith Erskine
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From: nwickham@triton.unm.edu (Neal C. Wickham)
Subject: Re: Conditions at Snowbird, Solitude?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 05:19:57 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa


Sante Fe New Mexico has plenty of snow.  I think still over a hundred i
inches and may have gotten more from the storms this week.  I am pretty
sure that this is thier last weekend.



                                   NCW

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From: lasala@cs.cornell.edu (Steve LaSala)
Subject: Re: Moguls on pins
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:52:38 GMT

In article <122930131@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> khe@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Keith Erskine) writes:
>In rec.skiing, bannan@convex.com (Bill Bannan) writes:
>> 
>>    Anyone out there have any advice on how to tackle the Volkswagen Bus
>>    size moguls on Tele skis? I was tought to " go where the water runs "
>> 
>>    Suggestions anyone?
>
>Paul Parker wrote what I consider to be an excellent book called "Free
>Heel Skiing in all Conditions".  I recommend it highly, it taught me
>several tricks that really improved my tele'ing.
>
>[several excellent suggestions for tele turns in bumps]

	If you look upon tele-ing the bumps as a challenge you want to master,
that's great.  If all you want is to get down the run and have fun, you can use
parallel turns, which are just as easy as on alpine gear.  You simply have to
drive and bend your outside knee a little more because you don't have that
huge, stiff boot to hold the ankle steady for you.

	Many free-heelers seem to forget that they can do everything the
'pinees can do, and more.  When you need lateral stability and quick turns,
the parallel is the appropriate maneuver.  When you want fore-aft stability
and long, swooping turns, or are dealing with heavy, wet, crusty snow, the
tele may be a better choice.

	Now, I'll admit that I personally prefer the aesthetics of the
telemark turn and try to use it as much as possible, but when I get tired
or desperate, I'll parallel every time.  That's the point of having a free
heel for me;  you get a choice, and can even go uphill if you care to.  It's a
universal tool, and is more challenging, as well.  I find I can ski a grade
harder with the heels locked down.
From: seb1@leia.dr.att.com (Sharon Badian)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skiing on ice...
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:41:36 GMT
Reply-To: seb1@vader.att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, Denver, Co.

|> In article <martel.703168473@marvin> martel@marvin.mr.sintef.no (Paulo Martel) writes:
|> >How I do I get a firm grip while turning on ice ? The steel edges of my skis
|> >do grip on the ice if I'm standing still, as long I tilt the skis enough.
|> >But it seems to me that the skis are lying too flat on the ice when I turn,
|> >causing  sideways slide. This doesn't seem to be a problem for better skiers,
|> >they make fast, tight turns on ice with full grip. Any tips ?

Don't try to hold an edge too long on the ice. And don't try too hard.
Skiing on ice takes a light tough. If you over-pressure your ski all at
once, the edge is going to break free and slide. You have to apply even
pressure throughout the turn. If you apply a lot of pressure in the
hopes that more is better, you are going to end up on your butt. It
takes a lot of practice to ski on ice. Some of it is technique - knowing
how to carve a good turn. Some of it is feel - knowing when to apply
the pressure.

-- 
Sharon Badian
seb1@druhi.att.com
From: smithro@Ampex.COM (Ron P. Smith)
Subject: Discount Squaw Tickets Available
Originator: smithro@omega
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:04:24 GMT

I have a few Squaw DIscount Lift Tickets for sale. $ 33.00 for the normal 
$ 38.00 Lift Ticket. Available in Redwood City or Sunnyvale.

Contact Ron at 415-367-3261 or E-mail "smithro@ampex.com"

Thanks

From: ericr@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Eric Rentschler)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:45:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Avalanche death in Utah
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing


Someone mentioned the LaSalles.  I am planning on heading to Moab to do some biking over Easter and figured I'd make some turns in the LaSalles.  What are the current conditions in the LaSalles?

Also, what were the details in the "LaSalle incident"?

-Eric Rentschler

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From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Alta conditions
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:51:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.171122.10744@javelin.sim.es.com>, bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) writes:
>haas%basset.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Walt Haas) writes:
>>We walked into Watson Shelter for lunch and there was a woman applying
>>duct tape over the mouth of a teenage boy, something I have occasionally
>>wished to do :-)
>
>Gawd, how righteous!  How Alta!!!  Duct tape!!!
>
>What at Alta *isn't* covered with duct tape?  :-)  It's part of the
>Alta mystique, like, gloves that have no duct tape on the fingers
>should be at Snowbird!  Powder pants with no duct tape are too new!
>-- 
><> Bob `Bear' Geer <>   bgeer@beorn.sim.es.com     (this *should* work)   <>
><>     cola-zombie <>   speaking only for myself, one of my many tricks   <>
><> Salt Lake City, <>    "We must strive to be more than we are, Lal."    <>
><>          Ootah  <>           -- Cmdr. Data, learning schmaltz          <>

DUCT TAPE =  "GOD ON A ROLL"
but I've never been to Alta...or Snowbird.... I guess that It even works in the
Eastern UEastern U.S. too ! 
							Todd S.

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From: allen%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Allen Sanderson)
Subject: Re: Avalanche death in Utah
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:42:37 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Apr6.000324.17677@fivegl.co.nz> hugh@fivegl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson) writes:
>What time of day was the avalanche?  Also, was it a slab or point release?
>(Just curious...)

Mid morning 11 am,  Slap avalanche, 1000 long, 800 wide 2-3 deep at crown.

ARS
From: seb1@leia.dr.att.com (Sharon Badian)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: SNOW DEPTH
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:24:51 GMT
Reply-To: seb1@vader.att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, Denver, Co.

In article <1992Apr7.001731.17275@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
|> 
|> 	I heard a rumor and I need to get it confirmed.  I was wondering what
|> is the record for the most (deepest) snow at a ski area in the U.S.,
|> specifically in the Eastern U.S.. Killington has 96 trails opened as of
|> 4/4/92....one of which (Superstar trail) has 40 feet of  snow on it!! 
|> 
|> DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THE RECORD IS??

The year I lived in Palo Alto was the year of the last El Nino. I remember
hearing Kirkwood report a base of 42 feet. That's natural snow. That same
year I visited Crater Lake National Park in August and they reported the
most snowfall in recorded history there - over 800". That adds up to 65
feet of snow. So, a 42 foot base at Kirkwood doesn't sound that outlandish.

This was in the winter of 1982-1983.

-- 
Sharon Badian
seb1@vader.att.com or seb1@druhi.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jss@gloin.unh.edu (Spectre)
Subject: Re: East Coast Mogul Building
Organization: University of No Holidays - UNH - East somewhere
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:32:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.142942.2042@apollo.hp.com> cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:
>
>I can't speak for the rest of the country, but out
>here in the East we use a ten-step plan for building
>moguls;
>1. Steal the tires off every truck you can find
>2. Spread them at interals over the 'mogul run'
>3-9 Spray the tires and run with a hose every night
>    for a week to get that nice blue sheen
>10. Post a double green sign at top of run
>
>                                          jc

I always thought that they used the little children that got lost on the
mountian.  They feed them with lots of fatty foods, bury them in the snow,
add the water to get the blue sheen.  That way you have a slightly cushined
landing in the bulletproof moguls.  [For those of you from out west...
Bulletproof moguls are what we in the east usually ski....they are mounds of
ice that resemble moguls, just harder :)]

					-Jeff


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|         Jeff Schreiber               |                                      |
|         aka: "Spectre"               | The way to ski these things [moguls] |
|       jss@kepler.unh.edu             | Is to go to total panic..............|
|    j_schreiber@unhh.unh.edu          | Then....Back off.                    |
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|"My opinions are mine and only mine.  |      -Mike Hatrup                    |
|  I don't care if they are wrong and  | In Greg Stumps, "Licence to Thrill"  |
|  you can't have them anyway!"        |                                      |
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	twice is just dumb!!"  -Warren Miller


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From: ampe@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.e.ampe)
Subject: Re: Cross-Training @ Ski slopes
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Andover, MA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:16:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.075717.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>So the big new thing seems to be summer cross-training via mountain bikes
>on the slopes.  Anyone know of areas in the Northeast that support
>biking.  I think it's an excellent idea and apologize for getting off
>the ski subjects kinda.  I know Killington and Mount Snow offer biking
>as well as Sunday River.  These places allow you to hook your bike up to
>the lift and travel to the top.

If you are interested in cross-TRAINING, I suggest you skip the
lift and RIDE to the top.

John_Ampe@att.com
From: allen%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Allen Sanderson)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Avalanche death in Utah
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:33:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: hellgate.1992Apr7.123307.19100
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

>klaus@captain-crunch.ai.mit.edu (Klaus B. Biggers) writes:
>>The man was DOA after a life flight to SLC. I heard he had died of the
>>trauma of the slide, not suffocation or exposure.

>bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>I have since heard that it was described as "cardiac arrest" at the
>hospital, & whether it was suffocation or trauma that was the major
>contributor is speculative.  After being carried as far as he was
>including over a 25'(?) or so cliff & being buried some 7' deep, I'd
>expect there to be a fair amount of trauma as well.

Yea, he suffered a broken neck.  2nd hand info from some who was at the site.

Allen Sanderson
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Wedge turning to parallel turning:  Ideas?
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:58:36 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Apr6.095137.10989@bristol.ac.uk> P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>In article <BZVoiB3w164w@cellar.org> sailor@cellar.org (Rick Emerson) writes:
>>With all due respect to Timothey Gallwey and Bob Kriegel, I think "Inner
>>Skiing" is a near dead loss.  In its place I suggest Denise McCluggage's
>>"The Centered Skier."  
>
>Ooops, is IGS Gallwey's book?  It is, isn't it.  It's not the one I'm
>thinking of, then.  The one I like was written by a woman, but it's not
>'The Centered Skier' either.  Have to remember to check when I get home.
>(It is yet another one on philosophically similar grounds.  'Skiing from
>the Inside', maybe?  That sounds familiar.  I'll check.)

'Skiing From the Inside', by Sarah Ferguson, that's the one I mean.
(Book shop down the road had a copy, when I checked over lunch.)
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.  :-)

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: How Do They Build Moguls?
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 21:56:04 GMT

In article <122930116@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> I'd like to thank  everyone  who gave me the *REAL*  answers  about  moguls
|> having to do with snowcats and associated special attachments.
|> 
|> I don't appreciate all this bogus stuff about "skiers making moguls".  Give
|> me a break!  How dumb do you think I am?  Why would the  skiers all ski the
|> same lines?  What a joke.
|> 
|> -- LSC
 *YOU* are joking, right? 

If not, get a clue, then call back.  Moguls are a "natural" phenomena
of skiing, not artificially produced, except for certain competition
situation.  You may have gotten bogus information, but the part about
skiers making the moguls wasn't it.

-- 


David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: bbarkey@victoria.utah.edu (Brian Barkey)
Subject: Re: Telescopic poles wanted -- End of season sale??
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 03:20:55 GMT

From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
>IMHO, the only adjustable poles to have are the ones with push buttons.  I've
>had a pair of Ramers now for...8 years?  They've never slipped.  

Freinds of mine say that the 'push button poles' are weaker. Also
I don't know if anyone makes them anymore, do they?

>All I hear from my friends who have the "twist and tighten" kind are 
>whining about them slipping, freezing, can't grip them with my mittons on...

Buy some friction tape, that black stuff that people put on the 
edge of slick stair steps and wrap some on both the top and bottom
sections of the pole. This way you can get a good grip on the poles,
even with mittens on, to torque 'em tight.
		Hope this helps.
			Brian

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From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: That goddamn groove
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:14:20 GMT

did

you

ever

wonder

(while waxing your skis)

if

maybe

SWIX (or any other wax company)

pays

ski

companys

to 

put

that

damn

wax-wasting

groove

down

some

skis?

I'M FED UP!

							Todd S.
From: ccas27@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Driving from Calais to Meribel
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:03:32 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


 This Easter a group of friends and myself are going to drive from
 Calais to Meribel. I would like to hear from anyone who has already
 made this trip. Is it a good idea ? How long will it take ? In short
 please tell me how you got on - Dream Trip or Nightmare ?

 Information on your experiences of Meribel itself would also be very
 useful - things like favourite bar/restaurant/chairlift/run etc.

 Thanks in advance.

 Andy.

 ccas27@uk.ac.strath.vaxa

 A.J.Anderson@uk.ac.strath
From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:49:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Avalanche death in Utah
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing


Re: "Avalanche death in Utah"

Hey!  You guys told me early this season that nobody dies in avalanches in
Utah!  I've been had!  Does that mean those 80 degree slopes are myths too?
And I *must* keep my feet together in the moguls?

Oh my God, all my beliefs are shaken!

John

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From: sergei@is.morgan.com (Sergei Poliakoff - CONS)
Subject: Re: Salomon 9000EXP opinions (and other caps)
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:45:02 GMT

In article <1288@lucifer.UUCP>, phil@eg.lucasauto.co.uk (Phil Brown) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr2.231401.6934@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> gell@henry.ece.cmu.edu (David E. Gell) writes:

< Long Salomon-related story  deleted  >

Just to add my opinion ...

I skied on 9000 1S  and Elan MBX 16's . Both are OK skis, none is exceptional,
and none justifies the price tag, especially the Salomon at $670,
especially when the high-performance "square" ski can be had for as low
as $250.

The main reason to do caps would be to reduce manufacturing costs :
after all, a Salomomn monocoque is nothing but the molded cap filled
with foam; compare it to the elaborate technology going into modern
"square" skis : complex laminates, funky materials, high-tech glues, etc.
Elan MBX  is somewhat more elaborate (they got a wooden core) but still 
much simpler then their IMHO fantastic Comprex line.
I haven`t found anything about the MBX or 1S that would set them apart
from a square ski  (except may be bizarre  shovel feel in the MBX).
To rephrase it, there is a square ski that behaves just
like Salomon or MBX - so why the outrageous price tag ?
Of course, they have to absorb development costs, but still ...
It is not even a new development : old red Fischer had this sheath wrapping
around topskin and sidewalls. Although it wasn't load-bearing, still looked
the same, and skied great. 

From a slightly different prospective, we are again looking at the 
ski technology innovation that is being introduced through the 
intermediate level rather then high-level racing. Notice that such
innovations usually don't stick : rear-entry boots (Salomon is converting to 
front entry), Nava bindings (dead now),  and now : round skis. I haven't
seen racers using them (except Salomon-sponsored school teams and like) : 
only weekend warriors. 

It looks like we are being taken on a new round of ski equipment 
price escalation with the product of dubious merit. The irony behind 
it this time around is that the greatest merit of new technology
would be lower cost ...

Sergei




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