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From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Doctor Who letter in TV Guide
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:02:18 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
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In article <domalley.727683989@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>>mentioning Dr Who? After 29 years, 569 episodes, and seven different actors 
>                                    ^^^
>Y'know, that's strange, I could have sworn there was a lot more than that...

With my trusty dusty calculator and hope of not hitting the wrong keys,
I count 690 episodes.  That is not including Shada, and counting The
Five Doctors as one episode, and each of the 50-minute episodes from
series 22 as one.

But, hey, this guy couldn't even spell `Rassilon', so ...

I considered writing, and would have mentioned Blake's 7 as also being
a world-famous sci-fi show, but would have written mostly about how it
all shows TV-Guide's ethnocentricity.  Everything they mention about
television series and about the history of television all is strictly
American, without actually pointing out that they're talking only about
America.

Incidentally, the letter before this one in TV-Guide was in response to
an article in the same issue which mentioned Klingons but then had a
parenthetical statement along the lines of "It's not a real language,
by the way."  Someone wrote in pointing out that in fact it is a real
language, made up though it is, and gave the address of the Klingon
language fan club and information about the Klingon dictionary (which
I have thumbed through, since I'm a TrekMUSEr and see the Klingon players
speaking to each other in thlIngan all the time).  Anyway, to get to
the point, the TV-Guide people must have run out and got the Klingon
dictionary, because they headlined the letter: "thlIngan jatlIj yIchop."

I was well amused.

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:13:45 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <C1H9uJ.HsB@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk> py1djf@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (D J Ford) writes:
>	 Er, am I mad, or what?
>	I could _swear_ that in Rememberance of the Daleks,
>	at one point, Ace gets up from a lounge in someones
>	house and switches the television off, just as the
>	presenter says something like

>	"And now we show the first episode in our new science fiction
>	series for children, D.." 

Ah, not FIRST episode.  Just _A_ new episode.

If it were the first episode, that would set the story on the day after
the Kennedy assassination -- when Britain's TV schedules were still
completely disrupted with news broadcasts.  And there wasn't even a mention
of this in the story.

My guess?  Remembrance of the Daleks takes place around 28th December... the
broadcast of "The Dead Planet", and the viewing public's first hint of the
Daleks.

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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,soc.culture.british,alt.tv.prisoner,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: I answer the challenge of Simon Patience
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:58:02 GMT
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In article <1993Jan19.044821.3345@athena.mit.edu>, amcomics@athena.mit.edu (Alan B Meisler) writes:
> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) wrote:
> >Till now, I have not met the challenge, so today, I list the shows, staring
> >with those that have individual newsgroups for themselves:

> also
> The Goodies
> non-BBC series on Inspector Poirot (shown in the PBS Mystery series.)
> Wooster & Jeeves (shown here in the PBS Masterpiece Theatre)
> To The Manor Born

> and how could we forget...

> Benny Hill?

Add "The Bounder" to those...
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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:02:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.112732.3293@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan20.231011.13524@cas.org> rmt51@cas.org writes:
|> >I once saw a collection of outtakes from the filming of Dr. Who, most of
|> 
|> I'd buy this collection.
|> 
|> >  T. Baker, with Lala Ward:  ...hurtling on toward infinity.  How long, K-9?
|> >  K-9:  Insufficient data, Master.
|> >  T. Baker:  Yes, you never fucking know the answer when it's important.
|> 
|> What was the context?  Nothing described here indicates the scene would have
|> been a blooper except for TB using the F word.  I mean, had something happened
|> that made it clear the scene was doomed anyway?  I can't see him messing up
|> a take just because he thought of something mildly funny to say.
|> 
|> Perhaps he forgot his line, in which case making up something funny was no
|> more damaging than saying "oops, I forgot my line"?
|> 
|>   Thanks awfully,
|>             Patrick
|> 

I think I remember seeing this once and yes, TB had forgotten his line. I
think he was probably expecting K-9 to feed him a line that would jog his
memory. When he didn't TB just decided to make a joke. I thought it was
very funny. It's about time someone told that smarmy, metal puppy that it's
only ever any use when the script writers remember to use him.
Witness City of Death, K-9 spent the entire story in the TARDIS and was
said "hello" to once as a sort of afterthought. Nice one Douglas!

Yours (but not really),

Happy Halibut V

Maybe I should cut the sig down. Hmmm.....
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From: pdl@sys.uea.ac.uk (P.D. Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:10:57 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

rmt51@cas.org (Rick Turkel) writes:

>I once saw a collection of outtakes from the filming of Dr. Who, most of
>which were only mildly amusing, but one was worth sitting through all the 
>others:

>  T. Baker, with Lala Ward:  ...hurtling on toward infinity.  How long, K-9?
                  ^^^^ 
                      Not again! Her name is spelled Lalla.

>  K-9:  Insufficient data, Master.
>  T. Baker:  Yes, you never fucking know the answer when it's important.

>The last line was uttered with such a perfectly normal intonation that I
>had to rewind the tape to be sure I really heard what I thought I heard!
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From: hugh@pyra.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: "Good Dalek" Question
Summary: Which episode of which story ?
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:16:11 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Ltd.

Good folks,

I  am posting this on behalf of a friend, who wishes to know the answer  to
the following :-

Do  you  remember  the name of the story that had Dr.  Who  distilling  the
Human  Factor  and injecting it into a Dalek who then became a  good  Dalek
because  he could ask the question "Why ?" The Dalek's name was Peter if  I
remember correctly.

He  would like to know so that, if available, he can buy the video for  his
small boy.

Any ideas ?

Thanks in anticipation folks, and kind regards,


Hugh.
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From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: The Dalek influence
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho,soc.culture.british
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:40:09 GMT

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca) wrote:
>Gubhtu gur zngr ng fbp.phygher.oevgvfu jbhyq or vagrerfgrq va gur Oevgvfu
>vasyhrapr ba Abegu Nzrevpn ba guvf bar, ru Arvy C. Fvzba rg ny?
>
>Nalubj:
>
>  Qnyrx (a) : N zhgngrq Xnyrq.
>
>Pnyrqbavn vf Yngva sbe Fpbgnyaq V oryvrir.  Abg n irel avpr qrevingvba!!


Well, I thought rot13 would turn it into English.  Guess I was wrong.
Dave, switch to a different brand of glue, or stop inhaling so deeply.

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From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: Love and War 
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:44:03 GMT

I just finished reading this last night.  A minor spoiler or two (both of
this and some of the Timewyrms) might leak in here, so:

This has to be made into an episode.  I don't care if they're not
making new episodes, they have to make an exception here.  Not since
Earthshock has The Doctor lost so much...

Some of the others couldn't be made into an episode (like the
Timewryms that involve other Doctors), some new adventures I wouldn't
WANT to be made into episodes (I really enjoyed the middle Cat's
Cradle, but why is The Doctor even in this book?), but Love and War
just HAS to be made into one.    

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From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Where the frig is TRANSIT?
Summary: flkjdfnjhd
Keywords: ldkgfh
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:10:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 

 I am getting a little annoyed here. Where is Transit in Illinois?
 WIll I ever get to read this book?
 And what does "cyberpunk" entail?
 Can anybody supply the ISBN?

 Jason.
From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: video tape edits
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:03:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C1Ipt3.CJJ
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

"dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:

>Re: Brain of Morbius on video.

>dave@yoyodyne.demon.co.uk (David Bisping) wrote:

>-> You're right just checked by tape, it gives a 100 mins running time
>-> with a flash on the tape box proclaiming 'complete unedited
>-> episodes'.

> Does this latest release include the sound effects that were previously
>missing from the broadcasted version?

 I was under the impression tht exported prints of "Morbius" were minus
 sound effects for Part2 due to some conversion problem, similar to that of
 Ressurection of the Daleks. That means that the UK version was complete in the
 first place. To answer the question the video does have these sound effects
 and it makes Morbius one of the best releases.

  Jason .     

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From: SBARNETT@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (Scott Barnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Visions 93
Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:28:52 GMT
Organization: Widener University Department of Computer Science, Chester PA
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Is anyone out there planning to go to Visions 93 in Chicago.  I am planning to
go.  I read about it in The Renegade, the newsletter of The Prydonians of 
Prynceton.  According to the article, all of the doctors that are still living
have been invited as well as practically all of the companions and many more.
It should be good.  It will be my first Doctor Who convention, though I have
been to a few Star Trek ones.
Is there anyone out there that have been to other Visions in the past?  Any
suggestions or advice?
Please send me any answers to sbarnett@tattoo.cs.widener.edu as I usually do
not get to check news that often.  If you can't email it, post it to the
newsgroup, I am trying to look in NEWS at least once a week.  Thanks.



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From: vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: What TARDIS stands for...
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:19:52 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

mhhammon@mobius06.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Hammond) writes:

- I apologize for asking such a stupid question, but I couldn't find it in
- the FAQ, and I would really like to know.
- 
- What does the anagram ``TARDIS'' stand for?
- 

Ok, fair question....
 
It stand for Time And Relative Dimensions In Space , hence TARDIS
 
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From: mrmuon@next06epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:53:21 GMT

Being generally vaive and optimistic whenever I watch DW I don't tend to  
notice bloopers. I personally think that the rate of bloopers and flubed  
lines during the Hartnell era is spectacularly low considering that they  
didn't do retakes.
However, the one blooper I have actually noticed myself was in a Davison  
story, I don't remember which. The Doctor is beside the TARDIS console and  
jars it slightly. This causes one of the levers to start to fall from a  
vertical position, but - Peter Davison saves the take by _casually_  
leaning against the console with his thumb on the panel and his index  
finger holding up the lever.
I wish I could remember exactly when this was but I think it was near the  
begining of the story and the Doctor was talking to Nyssa, Tegan, or both.

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From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:53 EST
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In article <domalley.727539081@unix1.tcd.ie>, domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes...
>I'd like to compile a list of various types of production errors from
>all the 26 seasons of Doctor Who. I'm looking for things like: 
> 
>Actors messing up their lines,
>Actors/monsters tripping or stumbling,
>Strings clearly visible on models,
>Sets wobbling,
>Boom microphones/shadows of same visible in shot,
>Members of production team accidentally visible in shot,
>etc., etc....

	Bill Hartnell was forever stumbling over his lines, especially whenever
he had to deliver an impassioned speech.  I don't know if this spluttering
was part of his character or not, but it's fun to watch.  According to
Carole Anne Ford (Susan), he also made several hilarious gaffes while
reading his lines, although the best ones have been edited out of the
episodes (such as "Susan, go check the Fornicator").
	I'm sure everyone who's seen "Meglos" has noted that thick, black
sexy piano wire holding one of the planets up in place as General Grugger
and Meglos travel in one of those funky Gaztak spaceships.
	The most famous blooper of all was in "The Mind of Evil", as 
the Doctor and the Master have a fistfight in the prison governor's office,
and knock over a water carafe, and slip and slide all over the ensuing puddle.
This scene was kept in the finished episode, just cause it looked great (so
they said)
	In Episode 4 of "The Chase" ("Journey Into Terror"), the Doctor
and Ian enter Frankenstein's lab in the haunted house.  They see the Monster
lying unanimated on a table.  Behind the table is a large ventilation screen.
Behind this screen is an empty Dalek - note that at this point in the
story, the Daleks weren't supposed to have arrived yet.  A later scene in
this same room shows that Dalek in action, "exterminating" the Monster.
	In Episode 1 of "The Chase", as the Doctor, Ian, Barbara, and Vicki
are watching that Space/Time Visualizer, Ian is seen singing along to
the Beatles' "Ticket to Ride".  Coming from Earth in 1963, Ian has never
heard this song before - yet he knows the words.
	During the action of "The Keys of Marinus", Captain Maitland has
to cut out the lock of one of the spaceship doors, using a noisy drill.
He leaves several large white cut marks on the door.  You can see these
marks on those doors, even before the scene in which they were made.


>Daniel.


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							"some doctor guy"

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From: uad1189@dircon.co.uk (Dave Yadallee)
Subject: Re: The Dalek influence
Reply-To: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:56:19 GMT

sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:

>In article <4Z9PXB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>>Though the mate at soc.culture.british would be interested in the British
>>influence on North America on this one, eh Neil P. Simon et al?
>>
>>Anyhow:
>>
>>  Dalek (n) : A mutated Kaled.
>>
>>Caledonia is Latin for Scotalnd I believe.  Not a very nice derivation!!
>>
>>And now,  An article on a USEFUL Dalek debugger.  I kid you NOT!!  Look at the
>>IEEE software article entitled "Sequential Debugging at a High Level of
>>Abstraction" page 55 May 1992 or May 1992 issue.  Classic of me to goof up the
>>date, but the subject of the magazine WAS debugging.
>>
>>BTW, I was looking for an answer concerning computing; any takers?
>
>
>I've read this article 3 or 4 times now, and I still can't figure
>out WTF he's talking about.  Do we have an interpreter in the
>audience?

For once own dear Sue is stumped, or is that twice?
Obviously Sue is somewhere in an ether.

Ponit 1) Caledonia(latin)= Scotland (Eng.)
  Note that Kaled is possibly derived from Caledonia.  Not very nice.

Point 2)  there exists a debugger called a Dalek, which was named after
           the BBC creature.  Mind you I wonder if the BBC is getting its
          fair cut from the designer.

Hope that clarifies it, dolly.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )

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Birthdate: 29 Jan 1969, Redhill, Surrey, England, UK

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From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Question: Regeneration
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:46:15 GMT

	I'm posting this question for my brother, who is really getting
into Dr. Who.  Please e-mail your replies to me, as I don't usually
read this newsgroup.

	Ok, what he'd like to know is the name of all the different
actors who have played the Doctor, and which regeneration they were.

	Thanks in advance.

Dara


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From: rpk@niagara.edu (Richard P. Kernin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Laserdisc?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Alright, now my curiosity is peeked!  I've heard mention of a Doctor Who
"Day of the Daleks" laserdisc from this group.  Is this readily available?
I've never seen one, but would have bought it if I did. ;-)  Are there any
others planned?  Thanks!

Take care.

-Rich

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From: jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk (Richard Kennaway)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Castrovalva
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:42:32 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

Thanks to everyone who told me that nearly all of Doctor Who is readily
available on video.  Having now seen Castrovalva, I'm still wondering
just how strong the connection with Escher is.  For example:

-- the style of architecture is very similar to that of some of Escher's
pictures, especially "Belvedere"

-- the view from the Doctor's window is a reference to "Relativity",
though without any similarity in detail

-- the way that the corridors and stairs keep on leading back to the
central square is also very Escher-like

-- "Castrovalva" is the name of a picture by Escher.

Presumably the programme makers intended these, but then why were they
not more explicit?  I didn't notice a single impossible cube, endless
staircase, or intricate tesselation.  Perhaps they couldn't get
permission from Escher's estate for a more substantial use of his images?

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