HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gen5006@husky1.stmarys.ca (Bill McKinnon)
Subject: Re: Re: Recurring Locale
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:32:45 GMT

 	The only thing i've been able to come up with (thanx to those who
answered) is maybe i like that street for some reason.  Or, as i think 
was mentioned, it's symbolic of who i am.  I mean i've had a lot of 
variety of dreams on that street.  I was chased by government agents, where i 
fled to that street.  I had a dream with lots of snow in the middle of the
summer (LOTS AND LOTS), where i was wandering the streets of a city and
came across it (no snow on it).  I also had one that took place about 100
years after a nuclear war where i got seperated from my band of futuristic
desperados(sp?)(btw this was one cool dream).  Hell me an' that street
 have had some good times ;)

-- 


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From: vortexae@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Niki LeBoeuf)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: ...
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 21:01:59 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

Steve,
  Thanks for the comment/note/post. (choose a, b, or c :-)
Most of the books I've read and the people of met say much the same thing 
about dream dictionaries. Have you ever actually read through one of 
those dogmatic things? Yes, I think all my flying dreams have to do with 
sex -- not! :-) I wonder what kind of a life Freud led? hee hee hee...
                          This is hard to read. 
                          Maybe I'd better double-space from now on...

                                       --The Incredible Vortex
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Enhanced creativity when dreaming?
From: jtulli@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:51:23 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

yes, i have written poems in dreams (and once recently i remembered most of one
i had written and wrote it (with some revisions) in my notebook upon
awakening...i haven't read it since but at the time i quite liked it.  i also
play instruments in dreams--violin, piano, and guitar, and Javanese Gamelan 
(not at the same time, silly!) because those are the instruments i have had the
most experience with playing in my waking life.  i'm not particularly good at
any of them--i haven't really touched the violin in years, i rarely liked to
practice piano and i'm just dabbling with the guitar, but in dreams i'm often
better at the instrument than in my waking life...in the dreams i don't play 
like someone who's devoted their whole life to music (though one night maybe i
will) but i can overcome the limitations my conscious mind has set...
the Gamelan dreams seem to be of a different nature, though--(anyone know what
Gamelan is...some of you must--it's an indonesian "orchestra" only the music is
very resonant and cyclical.  the instruments are all percussion--gongs, drums,
etc., and the instruments are usually owned by an institution as opposed to an
individual and "live" in one place from which they don't move unless there is a
change in ownership or they are a "travelling" gamelan used for tours...not a
great description but if anyone's really interested email me)--anyway, those
dreams usually entail my having a part to play and not knowing what it
is...it's a recurring thing so i guess i haven't figured out how to deal with
that situation yet...

interesting?

maybe

Jude
From: schwartz@piccolo.cs.uiuc.edu (Bradley S)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: An alt.dream for the group
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:23:44 GMT
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys


In my dream the other night, I had an interesting discussion with (the
late) Marvin Gaye.  He told me he was "thinking about making a
comeback," and asked me my opinion about this, and how I felt the world
might react to such a thing.

Though I tried to be positive and encouraging, at the end he decided
against it (the comeback), sighing and in a depressed tone sighing that
it "just wasn't worth it."  (Too bad for us).

- - -
Here's what makes this dream interesting:  I told a friend about having it,
who said "Oh wow, his daughter was on <such-and-such a talk show> I was
watching the other night."  We pieced it together, and decided she had
been watching the program just when I had called her on the phone last,
which was (I think) the same evening I later had the dream.

Of course the show wouldn't have been very (consciously) audible to me
over the phone line, and we definitely did not speak about the program
at the time.


I'd be interested to hear if others have ever had a dream generated like
this before...


bradley
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From: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Christian Dylan Losinger)
Subject: Enhanced creativity when dreaming?
Reply-To: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:12:56 GMT


	My girlfriend and I were talking about dreaming one day and she told me
that she cn remember dreams where she has written poems that were very good.
The funny thing is is that she does not write poems , I do. She claims to have
read poems in her dreams that she thinks she has written that were better than
most of the things she sees published.
	I thought that maybe she was just experiencing the feeling of "wow,
what a great poem!" (feelings seem to come in big packages in dreams - like
"wow, what great sex" "what a great day" etc). But she remembers reading it and
really liking it - though she couldn't remember any of the meaning of the text
she could remember a few phrases which didn't seem too poetic "out of context".
	
	Anyone else find themselves creative/artistic in dreams?
	


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From: preiser@cancer.unm.edu (Doug Preiser)
Subject: Re: Lucid Dreaming - What Is It?
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 17:14:24 GMT
Organization: UNM Cancer Center
Reply-To: preiser@cancer.unm.edu

In article <1aqvqpINNljd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, lestat@cats.ucsc.edu (Lestat de Lioncourt) writes:
>
>
>
>What is lucid dreaming?
>
>But anyways, I have been able to control my dreams completely since 
>I was about 6 years old, and can still do it. I refined the ability
>to the point where in the bottom of the 'screen' for lack of a better term
>or the visual that i see, at the bottom is a control box. In it are
>digital displays, including elapsed time and such. I can at will stop
>a dream and replay it, edit it if i am unhappy, or even erase it and
>start over. I can on the fly switch the entire dream to something else
>and this is easy.... would this be considered lucid dreaming?
>
>-Tom Fox
>..
>
Normally, a lucid dream occurs when you are dreaming and realize that you are
in a dream.  At that point you have free will within the dream.  You can do
whatever you like.

Good dreams,
Doug.


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From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Lucidity and me.
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:08:21 GMT
Keywords: dtr

gj student 156879 writes:

>I've been lucid in many dreams, and the most exciting thing to ever
>happen to me is flying.  Has anyone else gone lucid and then
>deliberately flown around?  It seems there are variances on the type
>of flying:  sometimes you can barely get off the ground, other times
>you can soar from heights that are staggering.

  Yes!  In fact, my ability to fly in a lucid dream is a pretty good indicator
of how much control I have over that dream.  
  There's no doubt in my mind that flying is one of most invigorating and
exciting activities one can do in a dream (well, PG rated activities anyway,
though I've yet to try the other ;-)

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From: ABLB000 <ABLB@musica.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU>
Subject: DreamLight...any good?
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Macarthur
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:29:39 GMT

I have read about Stephen La Berge's DreamLight, but was wonder
ing if any people here have actually tried one out. For those of
you who odon't know what a DeramLight is, it is  a machine used
for inducing lucid dreaming (basically consists of a mask placed
over the eyes). This is my 1st time on this group, so pplease
accept my apology isif this has already been discussed.
P.S. My backspace key doesn't work while on the modem, there fore
all the misktakes  :*(

Rocky
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From: jrheroni@iastate.edu (John R Heronimus)
Subject: deja vu?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:59:51 GMT


I am new to this network...so bear with me.
A few years ago I had a dream which was especially vivid to me.  It was the summer before I was to take chemistry in high school and I was excited about that.  Upon reflection I don't know why I was excited but that is besides the point.  I had a dream that I was in Chemistry with a friend of mine and we had a new instructor who was talking about Acids.  The instructor had a large vat of Hydrochloric acid and was walking around the room with it.  He made a comment about the possibility of accidentally drop




ing the vat and spilling it on a girl in the first row.  My friend made a side comment that it wouldn't be THAT bad to spill it on her, which got a few laughs from the class and from the instructor.

When I woke up I thought it was an interesting dream...but that is about it.

About half way through the next semester I was sitting in Chemistry listening to the opening lecture on acids, bases, and salts.  I looked up on the instructors lab table at the front of the room and saw a big vat of liquid with the letters HCL on the side.  When that happened my dream from the previous summer came crashing back to the front of my mind.  It was exactly the same!!!  I watched as the instructor went through the exact motions which had occured in my dream.  I even knew what my friend was goin




g to say before he said it!  It was incredible.  The whole event lasted about 2 minutes...and then it was over and everything was normal again.
I've experienced deja vu hundreds of times, and I'm sure everyone else has too.  However, I had never experienced a deja vu where I remembered that the source of my memory was a dream!  I don't want any of you to think that only a few of the images from my dream were in that chemistry room over 3 months later, the whole dream was acted out right before my eye's.  Even the instructor was the same guy who was in my dream...he was new that year.  Has anyone else ever had an experience like this...or read a bo




ok about these kinds of experiences?  If so I would love to hear about them/or learn the title and author of the book.  This experience got me thinking that maybe there is more to our dream world thatn just things which we experience and can control.  Maybe they are tools which we can utilize to see future events/communicate/ or perform other 'weird' tricks.

And maybe I've been watching too much Star Trek:NG?!!

A dreamer.
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From: dnibby@asylum.UUCP (Dana Nibby)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.cyberpunk,alt.magick,alt.pagan,alt.slack
Subject: WTBWAW for sale
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:31:19 GMT
Followup-To: alt.dreams
Organization: Epilogue Technology Corp.

I have about 10 copies of the book "Would the Buddha Wear
a Walkman?" by Hooper and Teresi for sale. This book is a good
introduction to mind machines, brain toys, and consciousness
alteration in general. I'm selling it for $11 in the U.S.
(list price is $16.95) If you'd like a copy, send e-mail to

    d_nibby@unhh.unh.edu
From: lf2481@eehp36 (Lucio Ismael Flores)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Perverted kissing
Keywords: ???
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:44:35 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 I am not too proud of this dream since it is very strange to me how anyone, much
less myself could think of something freely. I had a long day at computer labs at 
school and my mind was a mess. I put on some soft music and tried to take a nap
before eating dinner. I never fell asleep, I could still barely hear the music, 
but I could see myself kissing a girl, not very passionately, but it seemed normal.
Gradually, parts of our faces began unraveling and falling apart, sort of like the 
new terminator in terminator 2 when his body was blown into sort of huge metallic
slabs. Our faces had become fleshy petals, but they weren't pretty like flower petals. They were wet and licking each other in various shades of red and brown. No blood. 
I could still sort of make out some sort of round orifice, which would've been my 
mouth, some teeth, and I think one of my eyes. The action itself was sexual, but not 
erotic. It was sexual mentally in a wierd way, but this didn't turn me on. (If it did, I would probably commit myself to a mental hospital. )    Anyway, this was it. 
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: preiser@cancer.unm.edu (Doug Preiser)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Forcing Dreams...
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:01:28 GMT
Reply-To: preiser@cancer.unm.edu
Organization: UNM Cancer Center

>In <philip.717729773@labtam> philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au writes:
>I think that dreams are constructed from information in the mind that
>gets ordered semi-randomly to form a dream, so it is based on
>sonething 'already there'. The re-ordering can of course bring up new
>ideas, so it is not completely useless; but I don't think that this
>ideas come just from nowhere.

The problem I've always had with this idea is the assumption
that information only comes into our consciousness via our physical senses.
I'm not sure if that is a good assumption.
>
>
>MfG,
>        Olaf
>-- 
>    o     Olaf Titz - comp.sc.student - univ of karlsruhe - germany
> _ /<_    s_titz@iravcl.ira.uka.de - uknf@dkauni2.bitnet - praetorius@irc
>(_)>(_)   +49-721-60439 - did i forget something?
>Woe to the land that's governed by a child! - Shakespeare

Good dreams,
Doug.
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From: sedmanra@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Richard Sedman)
Subject: Re: Does a blind person dream?
Organization: Aston University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:21:09 GMT

jjozwiak@shearson.com (Jenny Jozwiak) writes:
: You know, I have always wondered that myself.  Do they dream in images connected with
: touch, sound, taste etc. that the mind creates? Or can they ever go OOB and see the world with their soul/consciousness?  
: 
: Please respond if any of you have an answer.....

I would have thought their dreams would have related to their waking 
experiences as ours do - I should think they dream normally apart from they
have no vision - how can you dream about a sense you have never had?

The exception would of course be those who could once see but were made blind
in some way.

-- 
The first 100,000 years were the worst.
The second 100,000 years, they were the worst too.
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From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Do you know what the Seth Material is?
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:18:14 GMT
Followup-To: poster

	If not, then you probably do not need to read further :-)

	However, if you are familiar with the series of metaphysical books
written by Jane Roberts, but you are not familiar with the mailing list
SETHWORKS where her works are discussed, then you might like to join by sending
a mail message to SETHWORKS@merrimack.edu with the following line in the body
(not the subject) of the message:

	SUBSCRIBE

	[I hope I have this right, Andy :-)]

	If you also happen to live in Melbourne, Australia, then I personally
would like to hear from you!  I can be contacted at:

	philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au

	I hope to hear from you soon!  I trust I'm not the only Melbournian who
takes an interest in this material :-)

	Philip Stephens
	Labtam Australia Pty Ltd
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From: pejkh@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Jeff Hansen 432-2691)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Remembering Dreams
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:46:40 GMT

As far as Ginseng containing male hormones I can't comment on that except
that quite a few female friends of mine use it with no problems as you
mentioned.  Also, the brand I drink also has chamomile and spearmint.
Anyway...



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From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: semi-concious dreaming ...
Summary: none
Keywords: none
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:22:01 GMT

In article <g92h7147.42.717514626@giraffe.ru.ac.za> g92h7147@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR GR HUTCHISON) writes:
>I'm also a semi-conscious dreamer. And I've also had experiences similar to 
>the one recounted in "semi-conscious dreaming ..."!!! For example, My alarm 
>clock will go off, then I will dream that I got up and switched it off and 
>started getting dressed... Then I *really* wake up - to the sound of my 
>alarm clock still buzzing happily in my ear!

Lucky you ! ;)

I often awake and find my alarm clocks (I've got three) turned off
without remembering having disabled them, this usually causes me to
be late for my classes. Yes, I am _sure_ that I set them on the night
before and I must sit up and reach for the clocks.

This leads me to this question :
Does the sub-conscious have a will of it's own ?

This event happen when I really need sleep (I'm often awake > 24 hours),
so it feels like the sub-conscious forces me to sleep by turning off
the alarms. In any case it must be done un-consciously since I can't
recall it.

>Greg

*JORN*
From: anske@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: deja vu?
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:39:10 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska

In article <BvF66H.7v3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, csedlack@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Sedlack) writes:
> I, personally, have had many dreams which have come true at some time in the
> future; in fact, I have ONLY had deja vu through dreaming.  Sometimes I have
> seen places and things that I've never seen before, though my most common
> type of deja vu dream is where I dream of a conversation I'm going to have at
> some time in the future.
> 
> Chris Sedlack
> csedlack@imsa.edu
> csedlack@uiuc.edu
> 
> The sigless wonder

Ditto for me. I ONLY have deja vu through dreaming.  It has happened ever
since I can remember... 195.. I had one REAL scary one when I was about
18... I don't talk about it much... too difficult.  A series of three
dreams.. very vivid... during an afternoon nap.  The first one was the
scary one... the second was just a house purchase which came to be about
six months later... the third I have never been able to remember.
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From: 0695cs14@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Silicon Vulture)
Subject: Re: Lucidity and me.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Keywords: dtr
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
X-Lunar-Date: 1 day, 0 hours, 39 minutes since the first quarter of the moon
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:22:00 GMT

In article <3kJ6RB4w165w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us>,
vortexae@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Niki LeBoeuf) writes...

>You read Sandman, too? Here's another flying method (I'd quote directly, 
>but I lent the issue out):
>  "When I dream, sometimes I remember how to fly. It's really easy -- you 
>just lift /one/ foot, then lift the /other/, and you fly! But when I wake 
>up, I always forget..." --Chloe, "Sandman" issue 43 or so (Nov. '92)

I like Ford Prefect's method better.  Climb up on a chair, throw yourself
at the ground, and miss.

  |  Silicon Vulture         |  "In my lucid dreams I hang invisible walls  |
  |  0695cs14@dt3.dt.uh.edu  |   in the air to catch flying people."  :-)   |

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From: mchalmer@mcs213b.cs.umr.edu (Matthew Chalmers)
Subject: Re: Enhanced creativity when dreaming?
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:54:22 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Sep30.131256.26075@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>	My girlfriend and I were talking about dreaming one day and she told me
>that she cn remember dreams where she has written poems that were very good.
>The funny thing is is that she does not write poems , I do. She claims to have
>read poems in her dreams that she thinks she has written that were better than
>most of the things she sees published.
>	I thought that maybe she was just experiencing the feeling of "wow,
>what a great poem!" (feelings seem to come in big packages in dreams - like
>"wow, what great sex" "what a great day" etc). But she remembers reading it and
>really liking it - though she couldn't remember any of the meaning of the text
>she could remember a few phrases which didn't seem too poetic "out of context".

This is actually quite common.  The manifest content of dreams  (the part you
remember)  is a tame version of the latent content  (your wishes -- which, if
you were  aware of them,  would make you too  anxious to sleep).  Your mind's
id's cathexes  balance with the ego's  anti-cathexes are upscaled so that the
id is allowed to 'get what it wants' while you're asleep.  If your girlfriend
has an  unconscious  desire to be a  successful poet,  her id would  generate
images of this and her ego would shove them into  her dream-conscious in such
a way as that she could write poems and be happy.

One interesting  thing about this is  that she may very  well be writing damn
good poems.  The only way to find out is to have her  practice lucid dreaming
where she attempts to take control of the dream. If she were able to do this,
she could read what she writes, and upon waking, copy it down on paper.

(As an aside,  you should feel  proud that your girlfriend's  inner desire is
such as this -- it almost surely means that she is quite proud of you.)
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