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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:23:56 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: mixing board
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From:           Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:        mixing board
Date:           Monday, August 31, 1992 at 11:59:27 am CDT

[...]
>  Another way to go is in modules - unpowered mixer, power amp, reverb unit,
>etc.  Tends to get expensive that way, but it has it's pluses.  Any comments
>on one-piece vs. many pieces?  Isn't there a company that makes a board
>that you can keep adding channels onto?
>
>Russ
>

the alesis 1622 is a 16 channel mixer at a *very* low price.  it's small,
light, and pretty versatile.  it would be worth your while to look into it.

re: one vs. many:

on the one hand, it's easier to swap out individual components.  let's say
you buy a 500w pa now and next year you decide that you need 1000w.  it's less
hassle and less expensive just to replace a pa than an entire pa/mixer/effects
unit.  or what happens next june when acme releases their dazzo-verb that your
vocalist wants to use instead of the one you have now?  swap out the old one
and sell it to recoup the cost of the new.

of course, having just one unit could be mighty convenient, especially if it
mounts into your rack.  you might lose some versatility that way, but hey,
sometimes versatility is a code word for overkill.  it depends on your needs.

finally, don't forget to check the prices in the mail-order catalogs like
musician's friend and music emporium.  somtimes they have some really low
prices on sound equipment.

lee
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:53:32 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Blind patriotism -- no OMC
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Chuck, well said on the Normal Rockwell front, except

>"There is nothing wrong with our
>country -- except for those nay-saying, baby-killing, homo-loving,
>non-white, godless, commies."
                     ^^^^^^^

Commies *is* behind the times.  Substitute "Democrats", "liberals",
"feminists", "public radio/tv supporters", .....

My one point to Leonard:  You know, it's not that you have to be
homo-loving or godless or whatever.  It's that if *someone else*
want's to be a homosexual atheist, then that's ok.  It's *none of
my business*, and it's especially *not the government's business*.
To paraphrase Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes "The US was founded
on freedom.  The Land of the Free.  Sounds like a great idea.  Let's
get to it!"
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:47:34 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Blind patriotism -- no OMC
              28 Aug 1992 11:31:48 -0400 from <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:31:48 -0400 The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny said:
>school and starts flooding AllMusic with talk about how, like totally way cool
>Nirvana and Guns & Roses are). So let's not get into a war on politics.
>
>-Adam
I'll take your advice i'll say no more except what pertains to music
thanks for getting me back to business at hand
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:31:00 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Satriani !?!?!?!
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I can't believe I'm asking this question, but have any of you heard Satriani's
latest: (I think it's called) Extremity ... the Extremist?

I heard a cut from it which is getting a lot of airplay, Summer Song (??) and
I actually LIKE it (I used to despise Satriani as nothing but note-clutter and
show-off stuff); in fact, the more I listen the more I like it.  somebody told
me
there is also some mandolin on The Extremist, and some classical (?)...

How about a review?   what else is on it?  is the rest old Satriani or new?
anybody know what happened to wake this guy up and bring some real music out of
him (always an interesting question)?

Sonia
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:45:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: Guitar Solos
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Scott Hammer sez:

>So, howz, about it ALLMUSICers?  What's your favorite guitar solo?

Rik Emmett - Triumph "Rock 'N' Roll Machine"

It was even better in concert.


Seeya,
Gary

"Never do a drug named after a part of your ass"
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:33:17 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: are you Cyrus?

>>
>Why doesn't everyone lay off the Billy Ray Cyrus fan there is music for everyon
>e and he chooses to like that, and everyone knocking his musical taste is
>getting old, he may not like miles or jimi but he's not knocking them all the
>time......L.W.

We pick on this guy not because he's a billy rae fan, but because he's
an  eejit, plain and simple.

jcs
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:26:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      "The Black Hole" and other CDs

Hi!  I am looking for some of the following CD's.  If you can help me locate the
m, it would be greatly appreciated:

The Black Hole soundtrack
Flashpoint (Tangerine Dream scored this)
Hearbreakers("                         ")
The Keep (in any form) also done by TD

Please let me know where I might be able to find these items.  Although, I run m
y own business with my boyfriend, there are things I enjoy that I can't find!!

Meshel
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:02:30 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: Another gem from the past...
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Let me tell you that I do not have a fixation on only Billy Ray CYrus but all
Country Music in general.  I herad in a poll that the must popular country
music singer in America is George Jones.  His song "He Stop Loving Her Today"
was the most popular song in America.  So to satify you fancy I will get off
of Billy Rae Cyrus for a moment and get to Garth Brooks who is retiring so he
can rase a family.  So here's your quarter. Call someone who cares punk.

Eddie Armstrong (aisarmstrong%ist%vmi@ist.vmi.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:15:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: EXTREME/other music

>Hey, you should check out their last album _Extreme II: Pornograffitti_.

EXTREME SUCKS!  DEATH TO ALL WHO WEAR OUT TIRED JOKES!!!!!
  Heya Gary, how's the summer been?  I see you kept the net access.  What's
up with that?

>Nuno Bettencourt is an excellent guitarist.

Yah, I will have to agree with that.  But Extreme really does fail to do it
for me.  I did learn "More Then Words" but only at the insistence of my
guitar instructor type person.

Speaking of guitars, Satriani's new album isn't too bad although it's
not up to _Flying In A Blue Dream_ IMHO.  At least he doesn't sing again.  :-)

>Maybe my tastes are too varied??

Could never happen!

Anyway I'll use this "what I took to work..." theme to bring up _Surprise
Your Pig_, the REM tribute album (which I've been listening to today).
Anyone have any thoughts on it?  It seemed like it might be kinda interesting
and the only groups on it I knew of were Band of Susans, Jawbox, and King
Missile, so I grabbed it.  Actually, my g'friend got it for me.....but anyway.
Dissapointed me at first, but now I'm giving it another listen and there are
a few decent songs.  We shall see.  Anyone know who Vic Chestnutt is?  There's
a decent version of It's The End....

Anyone else got this album?

Oh yah, I also picked up Curve's latest today.  Rather, i put it on my parent's
card.....and they think the bookstore only sells BOOKS!

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
-----------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------
Derek Tiffany          | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | URICH, cuz you gotta be
University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu    |<= djt{zero}u@aurora...
-----------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------
Is the other Gary still out there?  I'm still interested in swapping some
boots.  Sorry, but I lost easy net access over the summer.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Miles beyond
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:20:21 GMT

In article <18872gINNt1s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:
>  So, which Bruford are you talking about here: the Bruford Bruford, 
>or the Earthworks Bruford?  Anything specific you care to mention? 

Bill Bruford's Earthworks.  I think it is the first one.

But hey, Jeff, try to look on the bright side of things.
Isn't it better to be a Weather Report Wannabee than a Spyro Gyro
Wannabee?  I want to give you credit for something ;)

Jeff
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:32:41 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: need train song recommendations
              4, 92 12:58 pm

>>Springsteen's Downbound Train), then please indicate this. If there is
>>interest I will post the resulting list. Please mail directly to:
>>
>>mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu

>Track 360, by Duke Ellington.
>The band makes all sorts of train noises.

	Hey, can't you read? He asked to send replies to him directly! :)
Well, since we're on the subject, I recommend:

		_The Big Express_ by XTC. Particularly, the last song
on the album, "Train Running Low on Soul Coal". The song starts out
with this big slow beat, which sounds like a train leaving the station,
and slowly works it's way up to the beat of a locomotive racing down
the track at full steam.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 11:14:13 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dream (cream) Teams

>
>Walter -
>
>ABout  three  (maybe  four?)  years  ago  Guitar Player  magazine
>released  a  "sond page" single  of "Red House"  that hadn't been
>available until  then. One of  the better versions of "Red House"
>that Jimi did...
>
>...If I could find my copy, I'd tape it for you...
>
>-Kev
>

I picked up a new CD magazine last time I was in England and it came with a
free CD which featured a previously unreleased version of Red House by Jimi.
Upon further perusual of the sleeve notes it has in fact been available in
the States on various boots. As a point of interest this CD also contains a
previously unreleased version of Red House by John Lee Hooker as a kind of
tribute to Hendrix.

Seb
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:36:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: you say you want a revolution

>From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>

>From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
>Subject:      Re: Nugent/Patriotism

>>Of course not. It was the usual grab-bag of "let's become walking pharmacies"
>>or "I have the right to engage in promiscuous behavior with as many pre-age-of
-
>>consent young women as I want at any time" and "look at me folks my developmen
t
>>is arrested"  time and time again. Not too many peaks and valleys in his CAT
>>scan readouts, if you know what I mean.

>I confess to still finding it a bit weird that somebody who stands foursquare
>for the pharmaceuticals and the promiscuity also endorses the Republican style
>of kneejerk patriotism, "My Country Right or Wrong." It seems like simple self-
>preservation would encourage him to separate himself from drug warriors :-)

If I remember correctly, Rick's walking pharmacies and promiscuity remarks
applied to the Amboy Dukes whose best exemplar of pharmaceutical usage
(and their best song IMHO) was "Journey To The Center Of The Mind", one
of the all-time acid classic.  So why was Ted Nugent associating with
those drug warriors?  Well, Ted has claimed that he thought the lyrics
were refering to *drug-free* mind expansion, you know, like meditation...
Well, maybe, but you'd think the dressing room aroma would have clued
him in.  Then again when your lyrical analysis skills are on the level
of "Cat Scratch Fever" and "Wang Dang Sweet Puntang", it becomes a bit
more believable.

>The Ted Nugent version:
>People ask me how i make music, i tell them i just blow it away.
>Like marching in an army and joining the flow . Every moment in the
>carnage has its song. So i stay in the foxhole and listen.
>What i shoot is never the same. An assault through the woods brings a light,
>crackling song: snipers fire in the wind, machine guns chatter and grenades
>scold, mines crunch underfoot, and the beat of my heart holds it all together.
>When you join the war, the music is inside and outside, and both are dead
>meat. As long as i can listen to the combat, I'll always have music.

Well done, Michael.  My compliments.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:18:36 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Gradually going tornado

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:34:39 EDT Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>Clapton doesn't take a solo on "Sea of Joy," unless you're counting those
>incidental licks after the hook. The solo on that is Ric Grech, double-tracked
>on violin, quite nice actually. I also like Clapton and Winwood's intertwined
>lead playing on "Had to Cry Today," and the very beginning of Clapton's solo
>on "Presence of the Lord," those first two bars of intense wah-wah.
>
right.  That was a quick post without much thought.  (But I thought it time to
mention BF on the list.  Actually, solos don't stand out very much in my
listening to music, and it showed there; I'm more inclined to remember the
ensemble than the soloist.)
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:59:51 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Cancel my subscription

>From:#NAME: Henry E. Schneider
>#FUNC: J745
>#TEL: (713) 280-1775                   <SCHNEIDER.HENRY@A1@SSDHOU>
>To:#WINS%"<ALLMUSIC%AUVM.BITNET@VM1.NODAK.EDU>"@MDCGWY@MRGATE
>
>
>MythicalMark,
>
>Take my address of ALLMUSIC!  My address is HSCHNEIDER@MDCGWY.MDC.COM.
>
>This is my second request.
>
>Henry

Yo, Hank, tell it to the listserver. On a list like ALLMUSIC, I
wouldn't be at all surprized if the listowner comes in and deletes
100 messages a day *WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT LINE*.

So, since all your post does is tell us there's an ignorant dweeb
who can't understand directions sitting in on ALLMUSIC, try telling
listserv@auvm to "unsub ALLMUSIC", be cause no one here cares, OK?

Dave
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:08:10 KST
From:         DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      HEAR, HEAR
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T9AA sed:

>Since you are posting bad country song titles, try "Here's a Quarter"...

:YEAH, I enjoyed Henry's list (of underground artists) MUCH more!

ROTCOD ZZAJ
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:01:03 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject: Hello? Hello?

I have had nary a piece of mail from ALLMUSIC for 3 days/  Is something
up or what??


=========================================================================
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
                                                    --Friedrich Nietzsche
=======Russell A. Potter========<rapotter@colby.edu>=====================
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:52:50 EDT
From:         RIck <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Vincent's Ear Concert Dates
              25 Aug 1992 23:30:34 GMT from <dja@COAST.UCSD.EDU>

On Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:30:34 GMT Douglas J. Alden said:
>The thrash group Vincent's Ear kicks off their Live/Dive
>tour '92 in San Francisco tomorrow night at Morty's.  They have been training
>in the Redwoods outside Santa Cruz in preparation for this assault on the
>jaded masses.

Now for something controversial: There's a band in Buffalo called Van Gogh's
Ear. Same lame concept for a band name ("Hah! That'll shock the bourgeois
culture-mongers!") but not enough similarity for a violation of trademark
for whichever band thought up their name first (that is, if either group
established a trademark in the first place, which is doubtful.)
Any suggestions on how Vincent's Ear and Van Gogh's Ear can resolve this
potentially explosive issue? It's possible they could both be scheduled
in the same city sometime... the teens would be too confused to be able to
properly mosh. Social suicide, as we all know.
Alternative severed-body-parts-of-neglected genius name suggestions welcome,
Rick
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:54:49 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Confessions

>Posted on 3 Sep 1992 at 09:08:51 by I'm scared to reveal my identity
>
>Confessions
>
>From:         I'm scared to reveal my identity <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
>
>I confess that I have this burning desire to have a lewd encounter with
>Color Me Badd. . .
> OOOh, I feel so DIRTY!!!

not nearly as dirty as i feel reading this...

however, i'll trade you CMB for Marky Mark any day.

j "good vibrations" cs
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Satriani !?!?!?!

Sonia, Mistress of Meat (or was that Steak Queen?) said:
>I heard a cut from it which is getting a lot of airplay, Summer Song (??) and
>I actually LIKE it (I used to despise Satriani as nothing but note-clutter and
>show-off stuff); in fact, the more I listen the more I like it.  somebody told
>me there is also some mandolin on The Extremist, and some classical (?)...

I don't think Satriani is as bad in this respect as Vai or Malmsteen. I haven't
heard his new album, but his last (_Flying in a Blue Dream_) had some rather
fine playing with *EMOTION* in it. Particularly one of the cuts on the second
side (whose name escapes me at the moment) always brings me near tears.

-Adam
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:54:43 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: You say you want a revolution

Stock tip from Rick:
   Everyone purchase 1000 shares in Jackson, Clapton, Raitt, Springsteen,
and McCartney Amalgamated, Inc. once the final merger takes effect. I heard
that their first deal will be a purchasing of the copyrights to the Star
Spangeld Banner and collect royalty payments from everyone who attends ball
games and New Jersey rock concerts.

Inside information inspired by Leonard.

Rick
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:59:27 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      mixing board
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  Well, it's time to retire my venerable Peavy Mixing board.  12 channels
and 400 watts of noisy power is just a little much for a 3-piece band,
not to mention it's 70+ lbs.  I was just looking at some Sun head mixers, 6
or 8 channels, 520(!) watts (which must be overrated), at a reasonable price.
Anyone got any comments on Sun mixers?  How about on mixers in general?
The difference between 6 and 8 channels seems to run about $100-150.  I've
been figuring 2 vocals, guitar, bass drum, and snare, which is only 5
channels.  Think I should spend the extra $$ on 8?  If we get another person,
that could use up another 2 channels.......

  Another way to go is in modules - unpowered mixer, power amp, reverb unit,
etc.  Tends to get expensive that way, but it has it's pluses.  Any comments
on one-piece vs. many pieces?  Isn't there a company that makes a board
that you can keep adding channels onto?

Russ
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:29:45 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Guitar Solos

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:37:28 EDT Scott Hammer said:
>
>So, howz, about it ALLMUSICers?  What's your favorite guitar solo?
>

Hm. Considering 'solo' to mean an instrumental passage within a conventional
song arrangement, I'll nominate the following:

Robbie Robertson, "The Mighty Quinn", available on _Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits
Volume Two_. Sounds like a mortar bombardment.

Duane Allman, "It's Too Late", from _Layla_ . Swings beautifully, and Duane
was always in meter.

Doc Watson, _Deep River Blues_, not sure which album. Not one false note.

Sonny Sharrock, "Memphis Underground", with Herbie Mann. He goes through his
whole bag of tricks on this one, and Sonny's bag has a lot in it.

Robert Johnson, "Kindhearted Woman Blues", take one. His only recorded guitar
solo, so it wins by default.


David
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