From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Subject: Re: JOYSTICK FOR SNES SF-II(aren't worth it)
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 06 Nov 92 17:05:47 PST
Followup-To: rec.games.video.arcade

In article <Bx79G0.JHo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> robm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Rob McCool) writes:
=mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:
=: *No one said that cheap is better. My argument is that if you can make a 
=: *   good joystick yourself, then you should do so. It might even be better.
=: *   You can save money and maybe even learn something.
=: *
=: 	This goes without saying, which is why I find pointing it out
=: illogical.  Obviously, if you can make a satisfactory duplicate of
=: something with less money than is needed to purchase it, and if you
=: are willing to take the time to fabricate it, then you probably should
=: go right ahead and construct.
=
=From your own previous article:
=: The mentality that you opponents of this joystick display is analagous to 
=: that of the frugal consumer who conditions himself to be satisfied with lower
=: quality so that he may retain more money in order to purchase more items of 
=: equal or lesser worth...
=
=Remember that? Does it still "go without saying"? You quoted MY ARTICLE which
=  said that I would build it instead of paying what I considered a lot of money
=  for it, then after you deride ME for saying so you say my article 
=  "goes without saying" and contradict YOUR OWN WORDS?
=
	I did nothing of the sort.  That I had to spell it out for you ex-
poses your own misconceptions, and none of my own.

=From the most current article:
=: 	It's not that I haven't any bills; I simply make purchases as
=: I see fit when I can afford to do so.  I understand completely if you
=: cannot dish the dough for a $130 joystick.  But do not assume that I
=: cannot as well by deriding me for making what _you_ consider an out-
=: landish buy.
=
=And from the earlier one:
=: Spare me your thrifty economics policies.
=
=Well, sir, do not deride ME for stating my outlook of build instead of buy
=  when prices are inflated. If you're going to get pissed off because I 
=  attacked you back then you shouldn't make the first attack. 
=
	Wherein is derision involved?  I merely asked you to keep your
frugal tendencies to yourself, because they drive you to incorrect assump-
tions about my purchasing practices.
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=Perhaps my statement regarding profit of game companies is "the liberal 
=  outlook which sees profit as evil." (from earlier article, written by Mr. 
=  Cooper) but I happen to see most profit as good, and what I consider 
=  to be outlandish profit as bad. 
=
=Despite all of this, you have a point buried in all of that. You are in fact
=  correct, in that I nor anyone else have any right to deride you for making
=  what you consider a good buy. HOWEVER, you also have no right to criticize
=  me for saying I could build one cheaper and would do so. Therefore, this
=  whole discussion is largely pointless. If you want the joystick, buy it.
=  If not, don't.
=-- 
=Rob McCool, NCSA STG System Administrator
=  
	It is unfortunate that you reach that conclusion only through
this debate.  I needed no such event; I knew it all along.

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			  Milo D. Cooper  '92   | 1992  |  mdc@crash.cts.com
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