From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:39:51 GMT

In article <Bzxnpq.Crq@newsflash.concordia.ca> ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira) writes:

# In article <1992Dec26.212407.121@vms.huji.ac.il> backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:

# >>     A medical doctor and a president of the medical circle in
# >>     the Islamic university at Gaza.

# >As a doctor, *I'm* appalled that there could be doctors who belong to Hamas
# >which as an organization has sworn itself to kill Jewish civilians, men, women
# >and children.
 
# Sorry but there are also doctors in the JDL, Temple faithful, and many other
# Jewish extremist organizations who advocate killing all Arabs or expelling
# them.

	First of all you miss the point.  The point is that a person's
profession is not an excuse for any terrorism.  This applies
independently of whatever group they may belong to.

	Second of all, NONE of those groups advocate "killing all Arabs".
As to expelling them, all they have to do is agree to live their lives
in such a way that they are not a threat and NONE will be expelled.

# Your list also includes RABBIS (one of them killed an innocent  Arab
# merchant and only spent few months in jail before getting out on the
# shoulders of cheering Israelis).

	Do you know why that Rabbi got out?  DO you know all the facts?
The fact is thgat the Rabbi should not have been jailed at all, but
the child's parents should  have been brought up on child abuse
charges.

# Does that make you appalled? Do you support
# the deportation of the temple faithful, and the Kahane Jr. group? I doubt
# it, since killing Jews is a much bigger atrocity than killing "Arabs who
# are animals, grasshoppers, roaches, terrorists, subhuman" after all they
# enjoy every murder including theirs.

	You are setting up a straw man here.  They do not advocate action
against anyone who is not a threat.

# >Haven't you ever read of the medical "experiments" carried out by German
# >physicians in Nazi concentration camps ? Doctors like: Dr. Karl Brandt, Dr.
 
# ... Yeah, the Palestinians are now compared to the RULING NAZIS.

	Well considering the fact that people like you are engaging in the
Nazi technique of the big lie, this is appropriate.

# Of course,
# they are the Goliath that is threatening the little Israeli David.
# Excuse the sarcasm, but I can't help it.. It is plain ridiculous, especially
# After the complaints posted lately against any comparison with the Nazis.

	If the shoe fits ....

# >So just because these members of Hamas happen to have an M.D. doesn't indicate
# >what type of human beings they are.

# O.K, Now to the real issues:
# 1)Prove that the 415 Palestinians are members of Hamess

	They admit it.

# 2)Prove that they were involved in the killing of innocents,

	Hamas advocates and admits it.

# 3)Prove that the kidnapping is supported by all members of Hamess

	It is part of its raison de etre.

# 4)prove that all of them live in a territory that is recognized  
# internationally as part of Israel.

	Irrelevent.  It is Israel no matter who does not recognize it.  At
any rate, no matter where they live, they are a threat to Israel and
Israelis.

# Unless you prove all of the above (in a fair trial of course), you have no
# right to defend the deportations.

	What are you talking about?  There is a war going on.  You guys
stop it, and none of this would be necessary.

# As you finish celebrating Hannukah, I think you should appreciate that
# the Palestinians are waiting for the day they will celebrate their own
# Hannukah. When you celebrate freedom from oppression, maybe you should
# consider the others' right of freedom from oppression.

	The answer lies within themselves.  They could live peacefully if
they called off their war against the Jews.
--
	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
at math and those that are not.

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