From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: addressing prior subject on Daniel...
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:41:09 GMT
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HERE IS ONE MORE ARTICLE I HAD ON DISK, THAT SOMEWHAT ADDRESSES A PRIOR
TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HERE, THAT SOMEONE MIGHT FIND OF SOME INTEREST...
      Messiah must have come before the 2nd Temple was destroyed!
     This is only an outline, not a complete study on this subject.
                         [read Daniel 9:24-26]
Hebrew  word  for  weeks here is Shavuah=period of seven, [could mean 7
of anything], but in context and external evidence regarding the entire
book  of  Daniel, we understand it is 7 years.  Now 70x7=490 years, the
word  authorizing  the re-building of the Jerusalem, probally refers to
edict  of Artaxerxes  in aprox. 445 b.c.e.   That  being the case, this
brings  us to the first half of the first Century CE.  If a year of 360
days  is used, [as also employed that cent. b.c.e.],  Messiah will come
173,880  days  after Artaxerxes' decree,  because the 69 weeks of vs.25
= 480,  then multiply  by 360 [480x360=173,880] taken  in  passage  as,
7weeks 3score and 2weeks,  rather  than breaking it up @ above.  Artex.
decree  was  [March 14, 445 b.c.e.], because the 1st day of Nisan [Neh.
2:1-6] fell  on March 14, 445 BCE, according  to Royal Observ. @ Green-
wich England. [Anderson takes the  imprecise 'in month of Nisan'  to be
the first day,  due to the Mishnah on the "computation  of the reign of
kings and for festivals'.   Anderson  set Yeshua's entry into Jerusalem
as  April  6th 32 CE,  due  to Lukes  account  as the  beginning of His
ministry in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, who's  reign
began  in 14 CE, most  agree that Yeshua's  ministry continued 3 years,
which  brings  us to 32 CE. [Jn.12:1], Yeshua  went  to  Bethany 6 days
before Pesach and He entered Jerusalem the next day,[Nisan 14, -5 days]
which accord. to Royal Obser. was @ Thurs. April 10,32 CE...[then whole
bunch of facts] brings us to Sun. April 6th CE.  which is 477 years and
24 days by the Julian calen..  But deduct one year as there was no year
0 [1 bce-1 ce] that gives 476 divided by 4 = 119, which is 173,883 days
But  Julian calen. off  by the solar of 1/128th, thus  every 128th leap
year  [3x during 483 years, so -3 days],  Then...70  weeks less one for
the time around Jacob's trouble, [Dan.], brings us up to the day!
Which  if you'll  note in  the passage, [and Rabbinic commentary too, a
sampling  of which follows] Mashiach had to be 'cut-off'  while the 2nd
Temple  still stood.  Also, interesting  to note, from  the above  time
reached in  the Daniel  account, is the Talmudic account  that the cord
on the Scape-goat on Yom Kippur  failed to turn  from red to   white as
it always had, and  that  the western  minorah would not  stay lit, and
the Temple door would swing open of it's own accord, [a huge  door BTW]
  I have examined and searched all the Holy Scriptures, and have not
  found the time for coming of Messiah, clearly fixed, except in the
  words of Gabriel  to  the prophet Daniel, which are written in the
  ninth chapter of the prophecy ofDaniel." R.Moses Abraham Levi.
        Kings shall not cease, nor rulers from the house of
        Judah, nor sapherim teaching the Law from his seed,
        till the time that the King The Messiah shall come,
        Who will arise from Yehudah.   How beauteous is the
        King, The Messiah Who will arise from Yehudah.
        -Targum Palestine, Gen.49:10.
From what has been said you will perceive  that Shiloh, The Messiah,
was  to  appear  whilst  Judah  was a  distinct  tribe,  having  its
genealogies, and  its  magistrates,  scribes, lawyers and expounders
of G-d's Laws.  But it is an undeniable fact that Tribe of Judah, as
well as all the other tribes, has lost its genealogies for more than
seventeen hundred years & therefore the Messiah must  have appeared,
or the prediction is false. To assert the latter would be blasphemy;
to deny the former is unreasonable.  -R. Frey
.
If you have questions on the above, ask and possibly someone will have
enough time to go over in detail with you. Shalom shalom.

... 012Boast not against the branches....be not high-minded, but fear:210  
--  
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