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From: tino@ray.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: FSU Seminoles 1992-1993 Schedule
Reply-To: tino@ray.metray
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:33:59 GMT


FSU 1992-1993 Basketball Schedule

Siena (NIT) in TLH              11/18
NIT 2nd round in TLH            11/21
NIT Semis in NYC                11/25
NIT Finals in NYC               11/27
MASSACHUSETTS *                 12/2
at Duquesne                     12/15
UNC-Charlotte in Orlando        12/19 \ Florida Citrus Classic
Temple in Orlando               12/20 /
ARKANSAS-LITTLE ROCK            12/22
BALTIMORE-MD COUNTY             12/28
SOUTH FLORIDA                   12/30
FLORIDA **                      1/2
at Virginia *                   1/6
at Wake Forest                  1/9
MARYLAND                        1/13
NC STATE **                     1/16
at Clemson                      1/20
DUKE ***                        1/24
at North Carolina *             1/27
GEORGIA TECH ***                1/31
at Jacksonville                 2/2
at Connecticut ****             2/6
VIRGINIA **                     2/8
WAKE FOREST *                   2/10
at Maryland **                  2/13
at NC State                     2/17
CLEMSON **                      2/20
at Duke *                       2/24
NORTH CAROLINA **               2/27
at Georgia Tech *               3/4
ACC Tourney - Charlotte, NC     3/11-3/14

TV GAMES
* on ESPN
** on Raycom/Jefferson Pilot
*** on ABC
**** on CBS

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From: ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Tennessee score
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:42:05 GMT
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

I would like to have the score of the Tennesee games in the NIT.  Thank you 
in advance
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From: jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Ogden Stiers' Love Child)
Subject: Re: Women's Basketball?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:55:38 GMT

peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:

>In article <BxxrzH.8yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>>
>>Later days, and cheers to Lou Henson for bringing in a top 10
>>recruiting class like he promised!!

>	Did you see the film clip of 7'2" Thomas Hamilton on the news
>	last night?  He will redefine the term "Round Mound of Rebound".

Randy, you have a talent for understatement.

>	Lou has promised that this guy will
>	either live by the rules or be a gonner...

Gotta give Lou credit for that.  Has he ever booted someone for crossing him
before?

>	I think he's of
>	questionable worth, unless he shapes up physically and mentally.
>	Lou could have saved the scholarship for next year...

>	Both Hamilton and Garris have yet to meet ACT requirements...

I hope Garris makes it, and I have a good feeling that he will.  But
Hamilton, he brings back memories of the cheer our fans used back home
the last time we played Evanston Twp. H.S.... "2-4-6-8 Proposition 48"

There have to be players that play as well as Hamilton is rated... somewhere,
aren't there?  I really find it hard to believe that he couldn't find
ANYONE else...
-- 
Jason A. Lindquist		University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana

   linky@uiuc.edu		     "I jam, therefore I am."
						-- S. Pippen
From: rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Women's Basketball?
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:50:29 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <BxxrzH.8yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
> She
>wishes to know if all other basketball fanatics hate Women's 
>B-ball like myself and countless friends.  She wants to know
>what the big difference is between the two - she believes 
>B-ball is B-ball, no matter who is participating.  We (myself
>and others) have tried to explain our perspectives to her, but
>she wants unbiased opinions of total strangers.

You could start by showing her videotape of the Women's semifinals in
their Final Four last year.  Ugh.

Women's games can be incredibly entertaining and wonderful displays of
basketball, certainly a style the average amateur hoopster can relate too.
What the men do with the ball we can't really comprehend as none of us have
remotely the athletic skill.  At least with the women we match up ok on size
if not on quickness and ability.

There was an NC St. - Virginia 3OT regular season thriller a couple of years
ago that is one of the best regular season games I've seen, PERIOD.  Where
women's hoops get in trouble is when they officiate it like a men's game.
Most of the women do not have the upper body strength to withstand all the
pushing and shoving that is allowed in the men's game, which leads to horrible
looking shots and many turnovers.  

To summarize, a women's game can be very entertaining, but you are also more
likely to see a clunker.  At least, that's my $0.02.


-- 
Ronnie Smith      East Carolina University      Greenville, NC
   (and still at Duke a little bit)
 INTERNET: rws@cs.duke.edu
The next Duke Invitational,  April 3 - 5, 1993 in New Orleans.
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From: mckinned@dmapub.dma.org (Dave McKinney)
Subject: UofL Info.
Organization: Dayton Microcomputer Association: Dayton, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:50:12 GMT


Could someone familiar with the Louisville Cardinals please send me some
information on how the team and players are doing. Also information on
the availability of tickets for games.

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Voskull
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:13:00 GMT

In article <TQF=xLA@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:

   >James Voskull is an AeroSpace Engineer not ME at Michigan. How does he
   >do it? He studies...studies hard. I see him all the time on North Campus
   >here at Michigan. It makes me fell good to know that at least one`
   >student/athlete is working just as hard (or harder - he's got b-ball to
   >deal with) as all the other students. 
   >A student/athlete is truely a special person!


>					   Marty

Yeah, it's too bad there are so few STUDENT-athletes.  Remember Mark
McCormick?  He would've returned for a fifth year with Michigan, but
he didn't get into Michigan's Law School!  Now THAT's a student-athlete!


-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Women's Basketball?
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:09:25 GMT

In article <BxxrzH.8yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M.  
Stortzum) writes:
> My girlfriend is a cheerleader here at the U of Illinois
> and will be cheering at all of the Women's B-ball games.  She
> wishes to know if all other basketball fanatics hate Women's 
> B-ball like myself and countless friends.  She wants to know
> what the big difference is between the two - she believes 
> B-ball is B-ball, no matter who is participating.  We (myself
> and others) have tried to explain our perspectives to her, but
> she wants unbiased opinions of total strangers.

I enjoyed 4 years of watching Women's Hoops at Duke when I was
an undergrad there.  It's a different game from the perspective
of high-flying, death-defying action, but I have little respect
for those who watch basketball just to see players dunk the ball.

The women's game features an up-tempo attack (30 second clock),
good fundamental defense, good coaching, and good fundamentals.
The Big-10 is a great women's league, so if you enjoy the sport
of basketball and good competition, you may be pleasantly surprised.

--
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recruiting class rankings
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:03:43 GMT

In article <7034@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

> Gibbons recently said that if you put Duke's, Kansas' and Indiana's classes
> in a hat and picked one, any of them could be the #1 class.  They're that
> close and that good.

Yup.  It would be interesting to see a 20/20 hindsight post with
the greatest recruiting classes from four-five years ago along
with what they've done, teamwise as well as individually, and
where these players ended up.

Another task for you, Rob.  But I'll tease you by saying that
BRUSH WITH GREATNESS II is almost done and features a guest
appearance by Mayor Richie Daley.

OD

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From: duane@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Duane Cripe)
Subject: Purdue scholarships
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:44:53 GMT


<Waddell struggled a bit.  Painter and Darner were pretty much none factors 
<once the game got going. Foster is out of his league, even against the Hustlers.
 
<                        ---Mark

I don't mean to sound cold, however, why is Keady granting scholarships to
Painter & Darner?  I have never been impressed with their play, and I don't
see how they are going to positively impact the team.


-- 
Duane Cripe
Austin, TX

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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Kareem Follows Walton On Road To Infamy
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:08:47 GMT


I read that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar signed with ESPN to do color
on a dozen or so games this season.  He will be teamed with
West Coast jack-of-all-trades Steve Physioc. 

Why can't I have at least one idol remain unshattered?


--Gidi
From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: PSU recruits and hoop notes.
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:31:54 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

Penn State has landed 6'3" guard Dan Earl from Medford Lakes, NJ. and 6'7"
forward Phil Williams from Frederick, MD.

Earl is considerded one of the top 50 recruits in the country by recruiting
expert Bob Gibbons. Earl averaged 19 points and 9 assists last year at Shawnee
High School. 

Williams averaged 18 points and 15 rebounds last season at Thomas Jefferson
High School. He will remind Penn Staters of James Barnes as he weighs in at 270
pounds. His nickname is "Big House". 

Penn State is also said to be in the running for guard Tom Pipkins from Valley
High School in New Kensington. Tom is just 44 points shy of 2,000 points in his
high school career. He averaged 27 points a game last year and has narrowed his
choices down to Penn State and Duquesne. 

Other PSU hoop notes. They played their blue/white game last night. Elton
Carter sprained an ankle and will probably miss 10 days. Matt Gaudio is still
not practicing because of back problems. It was announced before the game that
backup center Brian Anderson has left the team. So to sum things up, It's going
to be a very long season for PSU hoops. We are going to take a beating all
year!!! Hang in there Bruce!!

- 


                                                              Mike Kelley
                                                              HRB Systems
                                                              St. College, Pa.

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From: mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: D-3 Basketball
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:43:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Nov19.174353.27944
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Anybody out there care about the great ball played at the D3 level ?
Rochester's season starts this friday, and I am in great anticipation of what
the team will be like after its return to the finals last year.  
What about other D3 schools ? Does anybody have a poll?
Or is only D1 ball worth talking about?

-- 
Matt Ross
mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
What ever you do, take care of your shoes.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Big Ten Update (11-23-92)
Keywords: Big Ten
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:46:18 GMT

Regular Season:

11-18:	INDIANA 103, Murray State 80 (NIT First Round)

11-20:	INDIANA 102, Tulane 92 (NIT Second Round):  IU damn near blew a 36-
	point lead late in this one, as the Green Wave creeped within 8 points
	(or was it 6?) before Knight had to put the starters back in...

11-25:	Indiana (2-0) vs. Florida State (2-0) (NIT Semifinal, ESPN, 6 pm CST)

	Illinois (0-0) vs. Dayton (0-0) (First round of Great Alaska Shootout;
	I think only one semifinal and the final, 11 pm CST on Sunday, will be
	televised by ESPN.  The preseason NIT and the Maui Classic sort of
	wiped this tournament out.  The tourney runs from Wednesday to
	Sunday, apparently)

11-28:	Purdue (0-0) vs. Connecticut (0-0) (Tip-Off Classic, Springfield, MA,
	ESPN, Noon CST)


Exhibition scores compiled:

11-16:	Penn State 95, Marathon Oil 91
	Purdue 101, Lafayette Hustlers AAU 84
	Illinois 100, Central Sports Klub of Army, Moscow 97
	Indiana 115, Athletes in Action 108
11-17:	Ohio State 86, Lafayette Hustlers AAU 83
	Russian National Team 87, Wisconsin 81
11-18:	Michigan State 94, Russian National Team 70
	Iowa 102, Cuban National Team 66
	Northwestern 96, Finnish National Team 61
11-19:	Michigan 103, Russia-Samara 83

11-20:	Michigan State 99, Athletes in Action 75:  The Spartans got off to
	a slow start, but then buried AIA.  Mike Peplowski had 18 points
	and 14 boards for the Spartans, before 14,729...

11-21:	Northwestern 105, Marathon Oil 100:  The Cats jumped out early
	30-14, but the Oils almost caught up by halftime (62-58!) and the
	game pretty much see-sawed thereafter.  Ahead 99-98, Cedric
	Neloms missed the second of two FTs, but Kevin Rankin, who
	led NU with 31 points and 17 boards, put in the rebound to
	ice the game.  Pat Baldwin had 22 for the Wildcats, and 6
	steals.

	Minnesota ??, Athletes in Action ??:

11-22:	Purdue 80, Russian National Team 72:  Glenn Robinson again led the
	way against the tall Russians, scoring 31 points, 22 in the second
	half.  Purdue made 28 turnovers, Russia 20, in a sloppy game.
	14,123 at Mackey...

	Iowa ??, Marathon Oil ??:

	Wisconsin 98, Marathon Oil 91:  There are two Marathon Oil teams,
	so you're not hallucinating.  Tracy Webster scored 25 points and
	Michael Finley 24 to lead the Badgers over the Oils...

11-23:	Michigan vs. Ragnon Att'y AAU

11-24:	Ohio State vs. Russian National Team

11-25:	Penn State vs. Russian National Team
	Minnesota vs. Ukranian National Team

11-28:	Wisconsin vs. Cuban National Team

11-30:	Indiana vs. Cuban National Team
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| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Consensus top 20, Updated
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:37:48 GMT

In article 7291@news.duke.edu, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>|
>| I thought it might be interesting to average out the rankings of the major
>|sports mags and polls top 20. 
>|
>|Consensus Top 20 (Inside Sports, Collegiate Sports, Bball Digest, Vitale,
>|		  Street & Smith, Sporting News, NCAA Preview, Mike Warren,
>|		  Game Plan, Sport, USA Today, AP, Basketball Weekly)
>|
>|Scoring: 20 pts for #1, 19 pts for #2, etc.
>|
>|1.  Michigan (244 pts)
>|2.  Kansas (239 pts)
>|3.  Indiana (237 pts)
>|4.  Duke (223 pts)
>|5.  Seton Hall (194 pts)
>|6.  Kentucky (188 pts)
>|7.  Florida State (173 pts)
>|8.  UNC (164 pts)
>|9.  Memphis State (155 pts)
>|10. Arizona (137 pts)
>|11. Georgetown (73 pts)
>|12. Oklahoma (65 pts)
>|13. Iowa (54 pts)
>|13. UNLV (54 pts)
>|15. Georgia Tech (49 pts)

Holy COW!  Why are we ranked this high?  We need either a center or a shooter desperately!  Top 25 maybe but not 15!


>|15. Louisville (49 pts)
>|15. Tulane(49 pts)
>|18. Syracuse (45 pts)
>|19. UConn (40 pts)
>|20. Cincinnati (39 pts)
>|
>|Others receiving points: Iowa St (34), Michigan State (33), UCLA (17),
>|Nebraska (13), UMASS!!! (13), New Mexico State (11), Mizzou (11), 
>|Ohio State (11), Boston College (11), Tennessee (11), UNC-Car-lot (10),
>|Auburn (9), Purdue (9), Evansville (7), Georgia, (7), Illinois (6), 
>|Arkansas (6), Utah (6),  Alabama (6), BYU (5), Florida (4), 
>|Wake Forest (3), Texas (3), James Madison (3), George Washington (3),
>|William Henry Harrison (0), Western Kentucky (1)
>|
>|	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
>|"Don't worry about the missed free throw, Christian.  We all make mistakes."
>|--Richard Nixon to Christian Laettner, after he missed the front end of a 
>|one-and-one with one second left, playing Arizona



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From: 6500alh@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Archie Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UNC schedule in Dec.
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:38:20 GMT
Distribution: rec

Can someone please send this information to me.  Thanks in
advance

Archie Holmes
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Update (11-17-92)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:49:25 GMT

In article <75174@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>In article <BxvsqA.LH9@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>>It's that time of year again.  In the Big Ten, we rejoice, because we
>>know that our basketball acumen is so superior to football's these days.
>>Jud Heathcote said that the league this year will be the strongest it's
>>been, from top to bottom, since the days of Magic Johnson.  Seven teams
>>(Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, Ohio State, Michigan State, Illinois, and Purdue)
>>all have gotten enough Top 25 votes in the AP and other preseason polls to
>>be included in the top 32 or so teams in the country.  Let the season begin!
>                    ^^^^^^ 
>              (more like Top 50)

	No, I think it was 32 in the CNN poll and 38 in the AP.  Pretty
	good no matter how you look at it, plus an 8th team, Minnesota,
	got a handful of votes...

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| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
From: jacor@camelot.bradley.edu (James Corbett)
Subject: Bradley 94 High Five 69
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.college
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:04:16 GMT


well, I know this was their 6th game in 6 days in 6 cities, but hey, Duke
only beat them by 24.  After last seasons 7-24 mark, those of us here
at Bradley need something positive to look at.

The game was entertaining, with the newcomers making the biggest impresstion.
Charles White, senior, scored 22 to lead Bradley, but the dunks but Deon
Jackson on the 7'2" Soviet player, and Marcus Pollard, and Dwayne Funches
looked REAL good.

A big highlight was freshman Billy Wright picking David Rivers's pocket
twice, and converting for layups.

Look out Michigan......we have our own "Fab Freshmen"!!!!





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From: Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill)
Subject: Re: Clemson-USA Verich exhib.
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:24:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.192101.10986@hubcap.clemson.edu> grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy) writes:
>USA-Verich came to Littlejohn Friday night for Clemson's first
>exhibition action of the year.  The Verich team had beaten NC State
>Wednesday night, played at Temple on Thursday, and were probably pretty
>tired by Firday night, which helps explain the 104-81 score.
>
>Overall, the Tiger's will be much, much more competetive in a somewhat
>weakened ACC this year.  A 4-12 season would be a dissappointment, a
>6-10 season is quite possible, and 8-8 wouldn't be out of the question.
>I won't predict anything except to say that when conference games start,
>if we haven't any injuries, don't be _too_ surpised when the TV guy
>announces Clemson wins over conference foes.


I got the same feeling after reading this, Mike, that I did after reading
the Clemson preview in the ACC Basketball Handbook -- "hey, this team can
finish in the upper division of the ACC!!"

Sorry, Mike, but I don't think Clemson's going to win more than 6 ACC games
this year.  4-12 would be expected.


I don't think this is a bad team, but an average team is in deep trouble in
the ACC.

Right now, I still see Clemson splitting with State and Maryland and maybe
getting an upset at home and a chance at an upset on the road.


There's certainly potential at Clemson, but tradition, coaching, too much
player turnover, and ref bias will keep Clemson in or near the ACC cellar
this year.

Potential problems with the NCAA could distract Ellis, too.





Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org




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