From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: ISRAEL DESTROYED IRAQ (Re: Anti-Arab racism on the net)
Organization: LC
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 21:15:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.153755.2159@cs.brown.edu> hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.222200.2402703@locus.com>, jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>[article deleted for being too silly]
>
>Are you kidding? This has to be THE most absurd thing I have ever heard.
>
>Israel (?) destoryed (?) Iraq !!! What !?! What are you talking about?

Explanation was given.

>Did Israel somehow force Hussein into invading Kuwait?

Husain was given the OK form the US to go ahead.  They know how
Husain thinks, they know he'd just move in.  They got him angry enough
to do it during the oil negos.  Why should the US destroy iraq since
it powered it, and was willing to power it more to stand up for 
Iran?.   Many proofs of US-to-Iraq powering are floating around.


>Did Israel ask Hussein to fire Scuds into its land?

No, No, No, remember, the plan was that Iraq would have no more
long range arms after the first strike.  Recall that Bush was talking
about iraq's surrender 6 hours after the first strike.  They were
pissed and surprised when Scuds were launched at Tel Aviv after
they had thought all Scuds were wiped out.

Besides, israel benifited from the Scuds, the old international 
feel-sorry-for-you-israel propaganda was restored afther the 
intefada took it away. 

>Did Israel not want to respond to this agression?

Part of the plans.

>Did the US not specifically ask Israel not to respond for fear of
>losing other Arab support?

Part of the plans, stories to be given to media.

>************
>)) - The Iraqi Army was the only arabic army that was able to defeat the
>))   israeli army in 1973 and push them back away from Damascus when
>))   they reached 40 km away.
>
>What? When was Israel EVER defeated by an arabic army? Certainly not in 1973.
>Boy, oh boy, is your imagination active.

1- Well well well,  remember the unbreakable Barlaif Line broken by the 
Egyptian Army in 1973.  That's one.

2-  Israel lost almost most of its jet fighter due to the intruduction
    of the Sam-6 missiles by the arabs in 1973.  Remember that.

3-  On the ground, the israeli army reached 40km away from Damascus,
    the iraqi army came in and pushed them way back to the Golan Hights.
    You've got to read a little more, or ask some of your israeli soldiers
    that were involved in thte battle with the iraqi army.  Israel did
    fear the iraqi army for that reason as well as due to its
    experienc ein the iran-iraq war.  Don't compare those battles with
    the international dog war against the iraqi army in the recent 
    Gulf War.  The entire world beat on them, they've got to surrender
    faster than they actually did.
    

>Did Israel not effectively destory Iraq's nuclear capability in 1982?
>
>My God, man, what are you talking about?

It is a different story now.  Iraq learned a big lesson from the 1982
attack.    That's why they appeared to have Nuclear activities all
over the country.  Even if israel could defeat iraq, it would not have been
so simple.  They'd have to lose at least one F-15, and why should they,
the US can and was willing to listen to the Israeli orders.  They
listen to orders of $5 billion/year and $10 billion just recently.

You've got to learn a little more about israel's strength around the
world.  Don't think they are only a tiny nation that the arabs wish
to throw on the beach.

jle