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From: markr@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mark Rivers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Awful pitches I have known (Baseball)
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:48:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:
> PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU writes:
> > [crap about baseball deleted]
> 
> Baseball references: 13
> Football references:  0
> 
> Wait a minute, what's the subject here...
> 
>  Subject: Re: Awful pitches I have known (Baseball)
>                     ^^^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^
> YIKES!  Something's happened to my newsreader (rn).  It must have switched
> newsgroups on me without me telling it to!!!!!

I think Panos got a bit misled; the subject line originated from a story
about the state of Derby County's pitch, the Baseball Ground.

	- Mark
From: shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated reports on soccer two weeks in a row
Date: 12 Dec 1992 13:51:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The two high school kids noted in SI, Andy writes that they are from
Illinois.  Do you recall the name of the high school?  I grew up and played
high school soccer in Illinois and am curious.

Thanks, 
Ken S.
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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: #BRAZIL-GERMANY ???
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:38:13 GMT

rschende@next14 (RALPH SCHENDERLEIN) writes:

>Does anybody know the result of this game and some detailed information  
>about it ?

>Thanx

>Ralph

Though I've only been able to watch the second half, I can say that Brazil
has a VERY (and I mean VERY) strong team. I think they will be hard to beat
at the WC'94. All the players are tactically brilliant and know how to pass
an opponent. Even the defenders. Bayern Munchen player Jorginho played a
terrific match at the right defense-spot. Man of the match, in my opinion.


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From: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB)
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Reply-To: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:55:01 GMT

In article 29522@castle.ed.ac.uk, Rupert_The_Bairn@ed.ac.uk () writes:
|puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta) writes:
|> In article <Bz3CM9.IG0@dcs.ed.ac.uk> gsin@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Garry Sinclair) writes:
|> >
|> >I dont think Rangers and Celtic like each other very much either.
|> >They have to be the most obvious rivals in europe.
|> 
|> No way.
|> 
|> Barcelona-Real Madrid is the most recognizable rivalry in Europe.
|> 
|> --
|> Angel Puerta
|> puerta@camis.stanford.edu
|
|There speaks a man who's never been to Lanarkshire... (or the rest of
|Scotland for that matter).
|
|Having spent some time in Barcelona and having been at a few games
|there, I can assure you, quite certainly, that it just doesn't get near
|the rivalry of Rangers/Celtic. And the Glasgow rivalry has got much
|better over the last few years.
|
|RtB


Sorry to tell you this boys, but you're both completely wrong. The rivalry
between Svenljunga IK and Tranemo IF is world known all over the county of 
Kind (Sweden).

/John
From: csfraw@raate.uta.fi (Elvis is still living)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Lineker   Vrs Van Basten
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:05:33 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@raate.uta.fi (Elvis is still living)
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <s0319198.19.0@let.rug.nl> s0319198@let.rug.nl (E.B. Meijerink) writes:
>
>[a lot off 'interesting' stuff deleted]
>>
>>Lineker was good, but please not close to the class of Van Basten, even in 
>>the only act Lineker was able to master - goal scoring.
>>
>'the only act Lineker was able to master - goal scoring.`? What else is a 
>centre-forward supposed to do?? Gardening?

i will rather quote one English manager ( the name just skipped my mind)
" Every player should at least have a dual purpose..................... "
yep, for the center forward one is to score goals but he should also be able
to function as a provider .

>OK: Next comparison: Romario (PSV Eindhoven, (sorry Philips SV Eindhoven ;-))
>                     versus
>                     Van Basten
>

.................. #$@%&^*&(*



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gallows
     Opinions are like assholes;
     Everybody has one but nobody wants to look at the others.
From: hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: German Bundesliga 2 results
Date: 13 Dec 1992 20:29:23 GMT
Organization: CS Department, University of Dortmund, Germany
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Originator: hofmeist@zorro

Bundesliga 2 results from the weekend:

Stuttgarter K. 3-1  Freiburg
    Hertha BSC 3-O  Hannover 96
     Darmstadt 1-1  St. Pauli
 VfB Oldenburg 4-1  VfL Wolfsburg
  Braunschweig 2-O  FC Homburg
    Osnabrueck 3-3  FC Chemnitz
   VfB Leipzig 1-O  SV Meppen
   Duesseldorf 1-1  Remscheid
Wuppertaler SV 1-1  MSV Duisburg
 Hansa Rostock O-1  C. Zeiss Jena
      F. Koeln O-2  Mainz 05
  Unterhaching 2-2  Mannheim

The table:

 1 Freiburg      16  6  3   58-28 38:12
 2 VfB Leipzig   14  6  5   39-24 34:16
 3 MSV Duisburg  12  9  4   36-21 33:17
 4 F. Koeln      13  6  6   33-15 32:18
 5 Hansa Rostock 1O  8  7   33-23 28:22
 6 Mannheim      1O  8  7   32-32 28:22
 7 SV Meppen      9 1O  6   2O-23 28:22
 8 Wuppertaler SV1O  7  8   35-25 27:23
 9 C. Zeiss Jena 1O  6  9   35-32 26:24
1O Hannover 96    9  8  8   37-38 26:24
11 FC Chemnitz   1O  5 1O   3O-31 25:25
12 Osnabrueck     8  8  9   36-36 24:26
13 Mainz 05      1O  4 11   3O-35 24:26
14 Hertha BSC     7  9  9   4O-34 23:27
15 Stuttgarter K. 8  7 1O   32-34 23:27
16 VfL Wolfsburg  8  6 11   39-45 22:28
17 FC Homburg     7  8 1O   3O-37 22:28
18 Braunschweig   8  5 12   44-49 21:29
19 St. Pauli      5 11  9   25-3O 21:29
2O Darmstadt      5 11  9   26-38 21:29
21 VfB Oldenburg  8  5 12   36-51 21:29
22 Remscheid      5  9 11   29-46 19:31
23 Unterhaching   6  6 13   33-45 18:32
24 Duesseldorf    4  8 13   23-39 16:34

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: #BRAZIL-GERMANY ???
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:28:59 GMT

chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter) writes:

>Although Brazil played fascinating soccer and could have scored 3 or 5
>goals more, it is a long way to the WC94. At the moment the
>worldchampion Germany should not be considered a strong team! The
>'chemestry' of this team is not working yet (hopefully). In addition,
>in the Brazil match, you had seen a new team with two newcomers. You
>definitly won't see this team again in this combination. I doubt that
>the German team would qualify for the WC94, regarding their latest
>performances.

The german performance was indeed one of the weakest I have seen 
displayed by a German national side. The defense was shaky and
unorganized, the midfield seemed thin (only 3 midfielders at kick
off) and the forwards were invisible. Most of this misery seemed
to be caused by playing to many defenders with too little class
and experience.

Nice to see an international with both captains coming from Bayern, though.

















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rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |                    3xEC1 and 1xEC2 Winner
                    We'll be back
From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Darren Fergusson
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:43:33 GMT
Organization: Wits University

Ever since the lager lout, Darren Fergusson is out of the Man Utd team,
United have started playing much better in the midfield especially with
Cantona. They still need to improve on the finishing off although
Hughes, Giggs, McClair and Sharpe have been having better games. United
are nicely poised to move into the new year with a BANG ! Hope they
have better luck this time going into the new year.
 
Go United go!
 
Liverpool go down - down - down - D O W N. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
 
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From: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Reply-To: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:11:12 GMT

In article <BzEMLv.27q@newcastle.ac.uk>, D.P.Mousley@newcastle.ac.uk
(D.M ousley) writes:
|>1. Newcastle United
|>2. Newcastle reserves
|>3. Newcastle juniors
|>4. Newcastle junior Magpies
|>5. Liverpool - FA Cup Final 1992
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Hunnhhh? Doesn't Newcastle have a women's intramural team in any of
    their elementary schools??


|>6. Norwich - Milk Cup Final 1985ish
|>7. Gillingham - whenever
|>8. Notts County - 2/1/93
|>9. er .... that's it
|>
|>-- 
|>        "It's about nothing -           NEWCASTLE UNITED
|>         it's about a lot of things"    DIV 1 CHAMPS 1993
|>         - Kevin Keegan                 PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPS 1994
|>                                        EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS 1995
               
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: St. Mirren sack Charnley (Was: Ayr United v St.Mirren
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:42:46 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:

>>> Chic
>>>Charnley became saints 3rd player to get a red card for an
>>>off-the-ball-incident. ie, he punched out someone. That's about it really.
>> 
>> Inevitable I suppose. It was for spitting although no one apart from the ref
>> saw it.

>it seems saints have now sacked charnley...

Yes. He's now joined the elite band of players sacked while still under
contract. Tony Higgins, the players rep, was pleading with the St Mirren board
to fine him a couple of weeks wages!!!

>who the hell will take the risk of buying him?

I reckon Charnley's playing days are over. The man was a menace at Love Street
and had probably one of the worst sending off records in Scotland, if not the
UK. Pity really, because when he did play well (rarely mind) he really was
pretty good, but he had such an awful temperament he invariably ended up off
the park.

Never mind, his younger brother is working through the ranks and currently
playing for Johnstone Burgh, a popular picking ground for St. Mirren.

>> After the match, Jimmy Bone cast doubts on the ref's parentage and was involved
>> in some sort of scuffle.
>> His main complaint was that an Ayrshire referee shouldn't be refereeing a
>> game involving an Ayrshire club.

>what's he got to complain about?!!

>dundee derbies were refereed by a guy from dundee for several years
>and we always get glasgow refs for rangers/ celtic matches here

The ref's parentage?

Dave
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From: au215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen K. Mulrine)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: St. Mirren sack Charnley (Was: Ayr United v St.Mirren
Date: 19 Dec 1992 00:35:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen K. Mulrine)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) says:
>he's a good player, i saw him play for partick a couple of times.

Chic Charnley was one of my favourites!  Nobody else could have the
crowd in stitches.  One time he was running down the wing and came up
against a defender.  He played a neat one-two off the terracing wall and
continued on his run.  (Of course, Thistle were winning comfortably at
the time.)
From: eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Predictions' Games - Last 2 fixtures
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:11:17 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Saturday 19th December

Aberdeen v Hibernian
Dundee v Falkirk
Hearts v Celtic
Motherwell v Dundee United
Partick Thistle v Airdrie
Rangers v St Johnstone

Meadowbank v Ayr United

   No second division match, due to Scottish Cup 2nd round

Saturday 26th December

Celtic v Dundee United
Dundee v Rangers
Falkirk v Hibernian
Hearts v Partick Thistle
Motherwell v Aberdeen
St Johnstone v Airdrie

Raith Rovers v Ayr United

Forfar v Montrose


                  Gerry
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:19:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.173527.25344@ugle.unit.no> pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.191616.7996@sequent.com>, jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer) writes:
>|> 
>|> Considering the game was an important World Cup game, it's hard to
>|> forget (esp if you're English). But he made up for this shameful display
>|> with a quality second. Wonder what would have happened if the first goal
>|> was disallowed and he got a yellow/red card he deserved instead?
>
>At that time, and maybe even now, he'd probably get a yellow one.  I think, though, that they would have won even without Maradona, because in my opinion Argentina of 1986 was a more even team than it was at the WC '90.
>
>Per Annar

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. The '86 team on the
day of that game without Maradona would have lost to England.

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From: girault@imag.fr (Alain Girault)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:31:12 GMT

In article <BzCy4n.227@apollo.hp.com> moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan) writes:
>In article <FISCHER.92Dec16015315@thor.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
>
>>Alain> Sorry, no Denmark : actually remember that during EURO'92, they
>>Alain> played five matches, one lost, one draw, and three won : that
>>Alain> doesn't make them in the top ten 
>
>>Well, it's your list, and as all such list it's pretty much random.
>>But since Denmark is obviously so bad, what did, say, Spain and Russia
>>do to get on that list. Or France, for that matter -- didn't look
>>that great in Sweden if my memory is correct.
>
>True.  France was underwhelming.
>
>>Alain>...
>>...
>
>Don't sweat it Lars.  The losers can always come up with lots of 
>excuses about why/how they lost, and can also come up with creative 
>ways to belittle the winners.  All the winners have to do is point 
>to the trophy.
>
>Personally, I find it very amusing when Mischa, whose team lost in
>the Eurocup -semi- finals, can put Holland at the #1 spot in a 
>world top ten and then can in all seriousness tell us that it's an 
>-unbiased- opinion.
>
>Then again, he also said we'd never find England in his top 10, 
>then proceeded to place them in the #8 spot. 
>
>If memory serves, the original start to this thread asked for top
>ten listings based on current year performances.  Denmark won the
>European championship, and that alone puts them in the top 3 or 4,
>-and- ahead of Holland.  Now Holland -may- be the better team on 
>paper, but Denmark won on the field, and performance is what counts.
>

What is easy to do is to  take all the matches played during year 1992 
by each team and count the wins. That could make an unbiased opinion. 
Of course, only official matches would be taken into account. This could 
also be limited to european teams, for the sake of simplicity, and then 
of cousre that would lead to elect the best team in europe in 1992.
Probably, the winner will be ... Yugoslavia :-)


>===================================================================
>Bob Moynihan                         Go Ipswich Town!
>moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com             Never let the rocks cry out.
>===================================================================
>  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not for Hewlett-Packard Co.
>===================================================================                                         

Alain.

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From: markr@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mark Rivers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Do QPR dictate Premier League positions?
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:24:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

baustad@idt.unit.no (Jostein Baustad) writes:
> I just noticed an interesting fact about QPR's results this season. So far we
> have 8 wins, 5 draws and 5 defeats. The interesting fact is that the highest-
> positioned team we have won against is Coventry in 11th place. And conversely,
> the lowest-positioned team we have not won against is Middlesborough in 12th
> place. Here's the table up to this date with QPRs performances on the right.
> Except for a few teams around 10th-12th place, the results are remarkable
> regular. Any comments?
> 
> Norwich                Lost
> Blackburn              Lost
> Aston Villa            Lost
> Chelsea                Lost
> Manchester United      Drew
> Queen's Park Rangers   ----
> Arsenal                Drew
> Ipswich                Drew
> Manchester City        Drew
> Liverpool              Lost			<------------------
> Coventry               Won
> Middlesborough         Drew
> Southampton            Won (twice)
> Tottenham              Won
> Leeds                  Won
> Sheffield Wednesday    Not played
> Everton                Not played
> Oldham                 Won
> Sheffield United       Won
> Wimbledon              Won
> Crystal Palace         Not played
> Nottingham Forest      Not played
> 

Perhaps it's an omen: Liverpool are heading for the top 5 ...

	- Mark
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Reply-To: pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 09:52:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.001951.16793@sequent.com>, jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec17.173527.25344@ugle.unit.no> pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:
|> >In article <1992Dec16.191616.7996@sequent.com>, jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> Considering the game was an important World Cup game, it's hard to
|> >|> forget (esp if you're English). But he made up for this shameful display
|> >|> with a quality second. Wonder what would have happened if the first goal
|> >|> was disallowed and he got a yellow/red card he deserved instead?
|> >
|> >At that time, and maybe even now, he'd probably get a yellow one.  I think, though, that they would have won even without Maradona, because in my opinion Argentina of 1986 was a more even team than it was at the WC '90.
|> >
|> >Per Annar
|> 
|> Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. The '86 team on the
|> day of that game without Maradona would have lost to England.
|> 


Yep, disagree as much as you want, for me they wouldn't have lost anyway!
Shall we end this discussion here?


Merry Christmas to all of you!


Per Annar
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jbrett@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Jon.)
Subject: Re: English FA Cup 3rd Round - Help required.
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:38:52 GMT

>
>  I'm especially interested in a possible Leeds United - Charlton
>Athletic replay.  Since the tie on Jan 2 is at Leeds I presume the
>replay would be at "The Valley."
>
>  I'm interested in any other midweek (Jan 3 - Jan 7) games in
>London or near London.  Are any of the Saturday ties in London
>likely to be played on Sunday or Monday?
>
>  I'd also appreciate it if someone (James?) could repost or e-mail
>me the draw for the 3rd round.

    If the Leeds - Charlton match does go back to the valley, it will
    be very difficult for you to get tickets. The match would be Charlton's
    4th since going back to the valley, and with a capacity of only
    8,300 the match would be very quickly sold out. At present, there
    are no definate areas for away fans.

     However,  Charlton are going to win up at Leeds so a replay at the
     valley is very unlikely.

  Jonathan.
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From: pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Reply-To: pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:35:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.191616.7996@sequent.com>, jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec15.195855.26814@ugle.unit.no> pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:
|> >|> |>of all times, I think Maradona is best.  Period.
|> >|> |>
|> >|>  ...especially when you consider that he's as good with his hands as with
|> >|>  his feet! ;-
|> >
|> >|> Chris J. Passier
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> >Is that the only thing you can remember of Maradona?
|> >
|> >
|> >Per Annar Sandaune
|> 
|> Considering the game was an important World Cup game, it's hard to
|> forget (esp if you're English). But he made up for this shameful display
|> with a quality second. Wonder what would have happened if the first goal
|> was disallowed and he got a yellow/red card he deserved instead?
|> 


At that time, and maybe even now, he'd probably get a yellow one.  I think, though, that they would have won even without Maradona, because in my opinion Argentina of 1986 was a more even team than it was at the WC '90.


Per Annar
From: cluck@pollux.usc.edu (Carlos L. Luck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Maradona or Pele --> PELE OF COURSE!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 08:52:20 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Dec18.094829.26581@ugle.unit.no> pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.174952.7026@gw.wmich.edu>, x89olarte1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>|> The simple fact that Maradona has played for a lesser number of years
>|> and that he has mixed drugs and play/sport, makes Pele' a better player.
>|> Enrique
>What would have happened with Pele if he had been living with the same pessure on his shoulders as Maradona has from the media, his fans etc. ?
>Per Annar

Pressure can turn coal into dust or a diamond. Maradona was not crushed. He
crushed himself.

Pele became world champion at age 17, and tripple champion for a country
where soccer is not a sport, but a passion and a life style.
Talk about pressure. That pressure made a diamond out of him, and it will
take much more than a Maradona to shine as bright as he does.


-- 
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From: zamr11@hou.amoco.com (Sandy Rattray)
Subject: St. Johnstone sack Totten ??!!
Reply-To: zamr11@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:20:08 GMT

Can anyone confirm this ? 
& any word of a replacement ?
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