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From: riilai@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: GAIBTY../ D in Europe?
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:56:16 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

Hello!

Just wanted to thank all you people for posting the lyrics of GAIBTY. I 
have mostly been listening to Dylan's singing and guitar-playing , paying
little attention to the words. But, now, when I get to the lyrics, I have all
the words ready.Thank you.

Jim Jones sounds just like Desolation Row. And that's maybe why I don't like it
so much; the rest of the songs sound so new, something like I never heard
before. Which by the way, that newness, makes every new Dylan record so
exiting,... you know, what has he invented this time...
And when it sounds new, unlike before, it's most of the time good too.

----
Are there any new rumours/information about Dylan coming to Europe? If you hear
anything let us know rihgt away. So that us poor people can start plannig bank
robberies, or something, to get some money to travel to concerts. He will not 
be coming here, I'm (almost) sure. (-A bitter voice from the fringes of
Europe...sometimes you just hope that you were born somewhere else, like New
England or something....)


Riitta Laitinen
University of Turku
Finland
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: The Bootleg Series - questions
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:50:24
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: "Jonathan D. Lyness"'s message of Sat, 14 Nov 1992 09:54:36 -0500 

In article <Ef1FAgS00awYENF0pB@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jonathan D. Lyness" <jl6e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

   1. Why does the series contain a much larger number of Dylan's songs
   from 1962-1965 than from any other time period?

A significant number of people consider this his best period by far,
so that would be one reason (ie selling the product to those people)
-- I would guess more people feel this way about that period than
about any other single period of Dylan's career. Unquestionably, it's
the period in which Dylan was most influential, so that would be a
second, less cynical reason. Finally, the unreleased recordings from
the 60s show a far wider range than is shown on the released
recordings from that era -- a discrepancy which is not really the case
later; so by focusing on that era, TBS improves our understanding of
Dylan in a way that any other focus would not.

   2. In "Who Killed Davey Moore", the crowd applauds in the middle of the
   last verse, in which the Cuban boxer is "speaking". Why did they
   applaud?

The applause comes after "where boxing ain't allowed no more" (ie, in
Cuba). I suspect they were simply taking note of the fact that, in
this way at least, vilified Cuba was more civilized than the US.

   3. Why would songs like "Blind Willie McTell" and "Foot of Pride" have
   _possibly_ been left off Dylan's released albums?

The same question could be asked of many songs. I have no answer.

   5. Is "Walls of Red Wing" based on some institution Dylan knew as a
   child, or had some particular association with?


This is pretty much pure fiction, but it was an aspect of the
bio-mythology which Dylan concocted in the 60s. Dylan had an image he
wanted to convey, and that image included a stint in reform school.

   6. Can someone relate the details of the story behind "Bear Mountain
   Picnic Massacre Blues"? (and was Dylan really involved in this event?)

Someone else can provide the details, but I think it was pretty much
the way he sings it. The company who put the package together oversold
the trip (which was slightly bogus to begin with) but attempted to put
everybody on the boat anyway - which then sank. Dylan was not
involved; this was just a topical song, like Davey Moore. As Pete
Seeger once asked him (I paraphrase) - "Do you just spread out the
newspaper and look for an article to write a song about?".
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: new boot-CDs
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:35:03
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: gerkepott@espel.picker.de's message of 9 Nov 92 09:31:16 MET

In article <1992Nov9.093116.90@espel.picker.de> gerkepott@espel.picker.de writes:
      The Circus Is In Town - BBC 1965



A bootleg version of this show has been circulating for years, but the
sound wasn't so good - I would guess it was recorded by someone
holding a microphone up to the tv speaker. But this cd is from a
different, higher quality source and sounds more like a typial
airshot. Here and there, it also has a bit of what sounds like acetate
surface noise, suggesting the possibility that the Beeb made their own
acetate dub of the soundtrack (but that's purely speculation).

Anyway, this is a decent recording of one of the final pre-electric
performances. The Swinging Pig cd of the 1965 Manchester show (Now
Ain't The Time For Your Tears) is better overall but has become very
hard to find; so if you want a 1965 acoustic concert recording, this
new one is probably your best bet.

rs
From: roth@feline.cs.wisc.edu (Bill Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: The Walls of Red Wing
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:28:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

I seem to remember that on the back of the album "Bob Dylan", its said that
he has done time in Red Wing, one of the state reformatories; it turns out
that Red Wings is on Highway 61, by the way.
-- 

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From: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: new boot-CDs
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) 


RS>Anyway, this is a decent recording of one of the final pre-electric
RS>performances. The Swinging Pig cd of the 1965 Manchester show (Now
RS>Ain't The Time For Your Tears) is better overall but has become very
RS>hard to find; so if you want a 1965 acoustic concert recording, this
RS>new one is probably your best bet.

I have the bootleg CD of that. Awsome.
---
 . SLMR 2.1 . On the day when I was born, my father sat down and cried
                                                                         
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From: gunnar@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Gunnar Bittersmann)
Subject: Woody Guthrie songs lyrics request
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:48:04 GMT

Hi folks:
I know this ain't r.m.woody, please keep your flames, hunh?
Bob also used to play these songs.

If anyone has the lyrics of

	I Ain't Got No Home,
	Pretty Boy Floyd,
	Do-Re-Mi,
	Veligante Man,
	Hobo's Lullaby (not his, but included in the Columbia relaese
			"Folkways: A Vision Shared, A Tribute to Woody
			Guthrie and Leadbelly", he used to sing this?)

or knows where I can get 'em from via Internet, please mail.
Thanks. Greetings.
			Gunnar
--
Gunnar Bittersmann         gunnar@cs.tu-berlin.de (gunnar@mimuw.edu.pl)
=======================================================================
"The first day I can remember lookin' in the mirror and standin' what I
was seein' was the day I had a guitar in my hand."  (Bruce Springsteen)
From: ww0@bobcat.cis.ufl.edu (Wayne Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Bob Dylan Rocks the O'Dome
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:06:47 GMT
Reply-To: ww0@bobcat.cis.ufl.edu
Organization: The Internet


This is a little slow, but I saw Bob Dylan's Gainseville, Fl date in the
O'Connell Center on the campus of the University of Florida.  Here
is the setlist to the best of my ability

I can't be satisfied
If not for you
All along the watchtower
Simple twist of fate
???--(first line was "Help me in my weakness") <--help
Under the red sky
Slivio
-----------------Acoustic set begin
Mama you been on my mind
Boots of Spanish leather
Mr. Tambourine man
Don't think twice
----------------Acoustic set end
Unbelievable
Man in long black coat
Time's they are a-changin
Maggies farm
----------------Encores
Shooting Star
Everything is broken
It aint me babe

This concert was the first time I have seen Bob live and it exceeded all
of my expectations.  Bob was in fine voice and I was able to understand
nearly all of the lyrics.  Having been only familiar with Bob's official
versions of his songs, I enjoyed hearing his reinterpretation of many
classics like Times and It aint me babe.  

Towards the beginning of the concert there were many extended instrumental
jams as has been noted in this forum before.  Included here was a
truly beautiful version of Simple twist of fate.

However, starting with Silvio, Bob kicked it into high gear, rocking through
this number with a vengeance.  As counterpoint, Bob settled into several
classics during his acoustic set.  I was still not prepared for the truly
inspired rendition of Dont think twice that came next.  I watched this
man in the spotlight and realized that THIS was the voice that I had
spent so many hundreds of hours listening to on tape, vinyl and CD.
He sang this song like he wrote it yesterday.  Especially notable was
his delivery of the lines "I gave you my heart/but you wanted my soul."
The crowd roared with delight in response to Bobs obvious passion.

Finally,

Towards the end of the concert, the area in front of the stage became
a dance floor during Maggies farm.  To my surprise, Bob responded very
favorably to the exuberance of the crowd.  The final verse where Bob
sang "I try my best to be just like I am/Everybody wants you to be just
like them" was sung with all of the enthusiasm one would expect from
this legend who had been moving audiences for 30 years.

Wayne Walker
ww0@cis.ufl.edu
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From: brummer@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Charlie Brummer)
Subject: Re: Dylan and Springsteen
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:50:54 GMT

Why all the competition between these two guys??  I have everything both of them
have ever done but I don't see any need to say one is better than the other.
Dylan has been around longer and has influenced more people, but that doesn't
make the Boss any less of a musician/songwriter.  Why doesn't everyone just
lay off the negative comparisons and just enjoy the music that they make.  I'm
sure both Bruce and Bob would agree.

Charlie

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From: afishman@scott.skidmore.edu (adam fishman)
Subject: Re: Wallflowers video clip
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:00:06 GMT

Yes there is a CD available and it is more than worth it.  I bought it
thinkingit would be merely worth a listen and was very presently
surprised.  It about 60 minutes in length and contains a number of
excellent songs!!
!
				Fishsh
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From: pixton%cdr.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jim Pixton)
Subject: Re: bruce kicking dylan's ass
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:13:33 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <wf31dVO00WBL06PnIm@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Yablonsky <jy0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>hey you jerks
>
>bruce could kick dylan's ass any day of the week, month, year or millenium
>(singing too)
> chew on that for awhile hippies.

I agree totaly, if Dylan were to meet Bruce in the ring, I'd have
to put my money on Bruce.  Just look at the age/size/fitness difference.
We all know Bob passed his physical prime long ago, while Bruce seems to stay 
pretty fit.  
Although I do think Bob could give Bruce a verbal lashing
he'd never forget (he might even sing it).
chew on that for awhile yuppies.
From: paul.fletcher@rose.com (paul fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Candy man
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:05:46 GMT
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Date Entered: 11-18-92 22:01


    When I was in a store recently I heard a song I liked the sound 
of.  It was an acoustic song with a Dylan like vocal with the words 
"Candy Man" in it.  I asked the manager what the cassette was and he 
said he thought it was Hot Tuna.  Can anyone help me out here as to 
who it possible could have been.


Lorraine
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From: casper@world.std.com (Jon B Casper)
Subject: Re: The Bootleg Series - questions
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:27:01 GMT

Re Talking Bear Mountain Massacre....
I believe the situation was that tickets were counterfeited for the Picnic
cruise which resulted in many more people showing up than was safe or even
contemplated by the organizers of the event.
I remember reading somewhere (Scaduto's book?) that Dylan wrote the song based
on an account appearing in a NYC newspaper.
In any case, it appears that the organizers of the event were not as callous
as it would seem.
Hope this is interesting...
Jon (casper@world.std.com)
.



Mn
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From: funk@fir28.cray.com (Art L. Funk)
Subject: Re: Candy man
Originator: funk@fir28
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:59:21 CST


In article <1992Nov19.030548.29310@rose.com>, paul.fletcher@rose.com (paul fletcher) writes:
> 
> Date Entered: 11-18-92 22:01
> 
> 
>     When I was in a store recently I heard a song I liked the sound 
> of.  It was an acoustic song with a Dylan like vocal with the words 
> "Candy Man" in it.  I asked the manager what the cassette was and he 
> said he thought it was Hot Tuna.  Can anyone help me out here as to 
> who it possible could have been.
> 
> 
> Lorraine
> ---
>    RoseReader 1.70 R001290: All great discoveries are made by accident.
>    RM 2.00 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285

Sounds like it could have been the title track to the new James McMurtry
disk.  I would also check out his first disk which has a title something
like "Too Long in the Wasteland".  Good acoustic music.
From: gerkepott@espel.picker.de
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: new boot
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:05:18 MET
Organization: Picker International GmbH, Espelkamp

a new boot CD

Long Distance Operator
Wanted Man Music
made in Germany

46 min.

This CD contains the Berkeley Dec 4, 1965 electric set in better quality  than
the circulating tape (at least better than my copy).

The set list of this show was posted some weeks ago.

Rumours: Wanted Man Music is a new German label. They will release only Dylan
stuff. Some more CDs will follow.

Heinrich

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From: georger@utoday.com (George Rothe)
Subject: Nov 1 Wilkes Barre
Organization: CMP Publications
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:13:37 GMT


Please note a correction to the setlist for Nov 1, 92

Highway 61 was performed after Ballad of a Thin Man...this was omitted
from the original posting.

(thanks Olof)
From: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu (Owen Goldin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: neil young
Date: 17 Nov 1992 02:22:35 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <1992Nov16.010755.13088@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, bwb@rigel.econ.uga.edu (Brian Bresnahan) writes:
>hello fellow dylan heads
>this is not related to bob but i thought you all might
>have some insight
>
>is neil young touring at the present time?
>does anyone have the dates and locations?

I heard Neil last night -- the second of two shows in a fairly small theater in
Milwaukee -- the Riverside.  Solo acoustic, with Neil milling around his
various guitars, deciding which guitar to play -- and which song to sing --
next.  Very fine show.  Things really got going with "Broken Arrow," followed
by "I am A Child."  He himself remarked that he was doing a lot of old songs,
and then said something like "well, they're all old songs."

The show ended with a great sing-along: "Fucking Up".

Owen
From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Dylan singing
Date: 16 Nov 1992 23:15:30 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1992Nov16.182729.1@sara.cc.utu.fi> riilai@sara.cc.utu.fi writes:

|  In an interview by Hubert Saal in Feb. 1968 Dylan, when talking about John
|Wesley Harding, explains how the music to which the words are sung to is the
|important thing and how he writes songs because he needs something to sing.
|He also says: "A great poet doesn't necessarily make a great singer but a 
|great singer always makes a great poet."

The music to Down Along the Cove is priceless, while the lyrics are
mundane, but the whole song works real well.
-- 
"There is nothing in the marginal conditions that     
    distinguish a mountain from a mole hill"            
                      Kenneth Boulding                             

					All comments  are mine---(David Wright) 
						david@cats.ucsc.edu.
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From: johnsocw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Christopher W. Johnson)
Subject: what is the title of this song??
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:01:16 GMT

	Could someone please tell me what the title of the song with 
this line in the chorus?   -"Everybody must get stoned."

I would like to know what albumn(s) it is on.

thanks,

Christopher Johnson 
johnsocw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu

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From: vuyk@let.rug.nl (W. Vuijk)
Subject: Dylan's Newport Years
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:11:13 GMT

Hans Bosch writes:
" You're gonna quit me - the song that provides the album's title - was 
recorded in the late 20's by "Blind" Arthur Blake (real name Arthur Phelps), 
who (presumably) died in 1933.

It is quite possible that Dylan is familiar with the song through Reverend "
Blind" Gary Davis. Davis appeared at the Newport Festivals in both 1963 and 
1965, so the two men might have met each other.

Davis also recorded Candy Man in 1957 (played of course by Dylan in his 
early days) and I can't be satisfiedin 1960. Does anybody know if the latter 
is the same song as the one written by Muddy Waters that Dylan recently 
opened a few shows with?

At the 1964 Newport Festival "Mississippi" John Hurt made an appearence, 
fragmentarily captured in the movie "Festival". He made his first recordings 
in february 1928, one of eight tracks being "Frankie", which could very well 
be "Frankie and Albert", since a version by Hurt is on one of his first 
albums. Incidentally John Hurt, who died in '66, also recorded "Candy Man" 
and another Dylan-familiar song "Worried Blues" in 1964."
From: gt0021c@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Edward Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Candy man
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:13:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov19.030548.29310@rose.com> paul.fletcher@rose.com (paul fletcher) writes:
>    When I was in a store recently I heard a song I liked the sound 
>of.  It was an acoustic song with a Dylan like vocal with the words 
>"Candy Man" in it.  I asked the manager what the cassette was and he 
>said he thought it was Hot Tuna.  Can anyone help me out here as to 
>who it possible could have been.

Yes, it was probably Hot Tuna, or perhaps Jorma Kaukonen, who happens to 
be one half of Hot Tuna.  They are a FANTASTIC band and well worth seeking
out.  I am not sure which Tuna album Candy Man appears on, but I do know
that it is on a Jorma album called Magic, which is a live solo acoustic
recording including Candyman, Walkin Blues, Whinin' Boy Blues, Good Shepherd,
Embryonic Journey, I'll Be All Right Someday, Mann's Fate and maybe even more.


-- 
Chris Perkins, Georgia Institute of Technology, MSM 1993 (?)
uucp: who cares?         Internet: gt0021c@prism.gatech.edu
'I was blind all the time I was learning to see'
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From: jab@cs.brown.edu (James M. Borger)
Subject: Bob shaving
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:04:21 GMT

Is there a picture of clean-shaven Bob on any album cover of liner notes since
Blonde on Blonde?  My roommate and I looked through our collections last night
and couldn't find one.  There are a few close calls (e.g. Basement Tapes), but we
ruled in favor of stuble.  I think the only ones we don't have between us are
Saved, Shot of Love, and Knocked Out Loaded, so somebody ought to check those
out.  (BTW, Bootleg and Biograph don't count.)  

Jim Borger
 
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From: afishman@scott.skidmore.edu (adam fishman)
Subject: test
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:20:56 GMT




test
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From: ndelcogl@scott.skidmore.edu (nicole delcogliano)
Subject: dylan's diverse singing
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:22:26 GMT

hey is anyone aware of Dylan's brief stint as  a Christian singer in
the early eighties? The music is okay but not as great as his secular
stuff. 
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From: olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner)
Subject: Re: Bob Dylan Rocks the O'Dome
Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:01:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.160647.8829@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ww0@bobcat.cis.ufl.edu writes:
 >
 >This is a little slow, but I saw Bob Dylan's Gainseville, Fl date in the
 >O'Connell Center on the campus of the University of Florida.  Here
 >is the setlist to the best of my ability
 >
 >I can't be satisfied
 >If not for you
 >All along the watchtower
 >Simple twist of fate
 >???--(first line was "Help me in my weakness") <--help

Drifter's Escape from the album John Wesley Harding.

Thanks for the review!!

Olof
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From: sfy@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Shane Youl)
Subject: Re: Dylan/Bruce
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 10:34:21 GMT

galuska@oz.asel.udel.edu (Scott Galuska) writes:

>lyrics to try and make a point, like Dylan.  I mean, to this day I'm still
>not sure what "Blinded By The Light" is all about- but I have a pretty good
>idea about "Desolation Road"...
                          ^
                          | If the smiley wasn't an oversight, I'd love
to hear some interpretations ;-)
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From: jball@unixg.ubc.ca (Joe E Ball)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Candy man
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:21:35 GMT
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In <1992Nov19.030548.29310@rose.com> paul.fletcher@rose.com (paul fletcher) writes:


>Date Entered: 11-18-92 22:01


>    When I was in a store recently I heard a song I liked the sound 
>of.  It was an acoustic song with a Dylan like vocal with the words 
>"Candy Man" in it.  I asked the manager what the cassette was and he 
>said he thought it was Hot Tuna.  Can anyone help me out here as to 
>who it possible could have been.


>Lorraine
>---
Well, I've got a really rough tape of Dylan doing Candyman, but it comes
from a boot without any info at all.  Plain white wrapper, plain white
thinggummy that goes in the middle.  The rest of the boot - I believe it
was a double album, has some basement tapes stuff, plus some stuff like
the death of Emmett Till (which seems to be on every bootleg ever put out,
practically) and the story of Hezekiah, Poor Lazarus, Bob Dylan's new
orleans rag...  If any body has any further info...  At least, yep, he has
recorded it at some point early on. 
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