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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:41:40 CDT
From:         Andrea Sevetson <asevetso@library.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject:      Eurostat....

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Barbara Sloan received a letter from Eurostat which raises more questions than
is answers.  A briefoutline of the issues (and her response) follows.

1- the letter makes no sense.  Tries to distinguish between documents and
publications and fails!

2- The letter says DGX is supposed to supply everything and supply claims.
  Barbara says please ignore this - DGX has no distribution system in place
  as per her phone conversation with them a week ago.

3- There is supposed to be a distribution policy decision 4/28/92 so what
  is in this letter may be rapidly corrected.

=========
Now from me....
I have not yet received my shipment of the issues of "Just Published" but
I understand some other US Deps have.  There are supposed to be notes which
tell you some of the items are out of print.  Also, I have received no
issues of "Just Published" since issue #11.  Has anyone else received more?

Frankly, the entire situation just gets more convoluted the further into
it we get.  This has been going on for almost 2 years!  I am very glad
my library purchases the 'fiche for Index to International Statistics.
Please feel free to ILL for copies  of your missing publications.  We
have a fiche-to-fiche copier here.
-Andrea Sevetson
 UC Berkeley
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From: CN.WDR@forsythe.stanford.edu (W. David Rozkuszka)
Subject: Re: UN Question:
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:09:16 GMT

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From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Item Number selections:

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From: "lopresti robert" <lopresti@HENSON.CC.WWU.EDU>
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Subject: Re:  Selection of Item Numbers:

I posted a message to the original writer but since there are requests
to post to net...

Each year when the time comes to add items I snet a note to
all librarians at this university inviting them to make suggestions.  I
seldom get any.  When a survey for new series comes, I select
any I think we need.  I ask librarians who select for particular
fields whenever I have doubt.  Based on past performance they would
not appreciate being asked to make each decision themselves because it
would require them to check all the series available, which ones we
already receive, etc.  and relearn Documents everytime.

By the way, I do send new documents to subject librarians when they
seem to be of possible interest.  Sometimes they request special
cataloging, etc.

Rob
lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:49:42 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Mexican Depository:

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From: "W. David Rozkuszka" <CN.WDR@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Mexican Documents:

To: Terry Brainer Chadwick
From: David Rozkuszka
Re: Mexican documents

To my knowledge Mexico has no depository program. In fact, few
countries in the world have 'depository' programs: U.S., France (in
the city halls), Canada (relatively new: about 10 years old), etc.
With the foreign countries, and especially with the Third World,
it's important not to extrapolate from U.S. experiences with
bibliography. There are low press runs, lack of paper, often lack of
presses, other priorities than a national information policy, etc.

With that said, it is very difficult to get a regular supply of
gov't documents from any Mexican agency. The best suppliers are
American dealers working in Mexico or the U.S. For example, Leif
Adelson in Mexico City with his Books from Mexico; Puvill/Mexico in
Mexico City (Carmen Garcia Moreno); Alfonson Vijil in Redlands,
Calif. with Libros Latinos; Mexico Norte in Redlands with Nira Clark
and George Elemendorf; Mexico Sur in Redlands.

There has been a strong decentralization of government information
in Mexico and the state governments are publishing very, very much.
Puvill, Libros Latinos and Mexico Norte/Sur are good suppliers for
this.

The Instituto Nacional de Antropologia e Historia is a good regular
supplier. You must order from their lists.

The statistical office, INEGI, is an erratic supplier and I
recommend using a dealer, e.g. Books from Mexico.

Last year, for documents alone, Stanford spent close to $20,000. The
Library of Congress, by the way, uses dealers to supply large
portions of its Mexican documents---in fact, one of the above
dealers.

There is no easy, one sure fire source for Mexican documents, and
there is no free way to get them. To build a collection takes effort
and dollars---more than of both than most other bibliographic areas.
If you are seriously considering this area, you might consider going
to SALALM in Austin in May. (The Seminar on the Acquisition of Latin
American Library Materials). Next year's meeting will be in
Guadalajara.

---David Rozkuszka
   Foreign & International Documents Librarian
   Stanford Univ. Libraries
   Stanford, Ca  94305-6004
   415-725-1028
   cn.wdr@stanford.bitnet   cn.wdr@forsythe.stanford.edu
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:09:38 CDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Microcard copiers:

 *** Reply to note of 92-03-18 09:09
 Subject: Microcard copiers
 We have an adaptation on 'Agfa-Gevaert' Copex LK-P reader printer
 for microcards and microprint.  The machine was approx. $l5,000
 over 2 years ago. It works quite well and serves the purpose as
 we were unable to find anything else when we were looking a few
 years ago.

 _Sally Manwaring
 Government Publications
 University of Alberta Library    smanwari@ualtavm.bitnet
#Microcard copiers                                                      R
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:12:23 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Inquiry forms:

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        I just read, with great interest (and now humor). Cynthia Teague's
comment and question about the use of the GPO inquiry form.

        When our library was inspected last fall, I was asked by the
inspector if we used the inquiry form.  I told him no.  When we had a
problem/question, I called GPO.  I felt that the immediate response was
more timely and useful to me; my staff; our users.

        During our wrap-up session at the end of the day, the fact that I
did not use the inquiry form was an area/item of, for lack of better word,
in need of improvement.

        That's all.  I have nothing else to add, only that I am very happy
that I have been calling and not using the form!!

Jim Walsh
O'Neill Library
Boston College
Chestnut Hill, MA  02167
walshop@bcvms (bitnet)
walshop@bcvms.bc.edu (internet)
617-552-3354
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:06:09 CDT
From:         MAXYMUK@ZODIAC.BITNET
Subject:      NTDB

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Is it just our library or is the mailing of NTDB CDs very sporadic?  the
last one we received was the December 1991 issue which we received on
January 6th.  Have other depositories received later issues of the CD?
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:51:22 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      U.N. Question:

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From: "Sarah M. Pritchard" <PRITCHAR@UMDC.BITNET>
Subject: UN Question:
In-reply-to: Message received on Fri, 10 Apr 92  15:17:29 EDT
To:   "Discussion of Government Document Issues" <GOVDOC-L@PSUVM.BITNET>

To Stephen Hayes (and others),

I have the report in my hand.  It is called
The World's Women 1970-1990, Trends and Statistics.
It is given a series note for the series Social Statistics and
Indicators, Series K, No. 8.
It was issued by the UN Dept. of International Economic and Social
Affairs, Statistical Office, Centre for Social Development and
Humanitarian Affairs (all three units are listed in that order) in 1991.
The document number is ST/ESA/STAT/SER.K/8
and the UN sales number is E.90.XVII.3
and the ISBN is 92-1-161313-2.

Hope this helps.  It's full of great data!

Sarah Pritchard
Association of Research Libraries
ph. 202-232-2466
BITNET:  pritchar@umdc
Internet:  sarah@cni.org
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:59:54 CDT
From:         cwolff <UA0281@UOKMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Selection of Item Numbers:

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
at the university of oklahoma, we are an 89 percent selective a
nd we do have a written collection development policy (which
was, of course, in anticipation of our inspection....).  w
essentially, we work on the same basis as a number of folks:
i determine what is selected on the basis of what is relevant
to our immediate users (of course, this is *my* opinion).
however, if something is too specialized for our clientele,
i do contact the health sciences library in oklahoma city (they
are a remote site for a number of 'medicalize' items) and
the geology library.  we have recently expanded our remote
sites to include our regional and city planning
department (which kindly makes my tiger files accessible)
so they will be included in any future technical electronic
products that may be useful (and accessible) through that
department.
  when electronic dissemination first began, i made the
mistake of consulting our public services head who suggested
that we not select any at the time---naturally, we missed
a few relative databases (e.g., the NTDB!) which we had
to add at the next annual selection cycle.
  my experience and suggestion would be to select items based
on your expertise and public services experience (consulting
subject specialists if totally confused or dumbfounded)--
since we have loaded the MARCIVE tapes, we have discovered
those *useless* previous selections are in fact of interest
to the average patron (prime example: defense technical
manuals which i deselected last year, only to have to
pull oodles for our engineers who weren't aware of them
before)
  one important rule of thumb: you can only add once a year,
but you can de-select anytime--
  cindi wolff
 university of oklahoma
 --claims of logic are not included--
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:36:46 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      UN Question:

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From: "Diane Garner" <DXG@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: UN Question:
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In-reply-to: Message of Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:13:33 EDT from <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN>

The World's Women is a 1991 UN publication. Its series/symbol is ST/ESA/STAT/
SER.K/8 ; its sales number is E.90.XVII.3. Harvard received its copy in August
of 1991.
Diane Garner
Harvard
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:27:52 CDT
From:         stwold@ualr.edu
Subject:      European Communities

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Thanks to Andrea Sevetson for trying to keep us up-to-date on EC document
matters.
We are an EC depository, and have never, as far as I can tell, received
any issues of "Just Published".  Also, we have not received any box of EC
documents, as some libraries have.  However, we do seem to be getting most
of the really useful items.
Has GODORT communicated with Eurostat about the problems in delivery of
statistical publications?

Shelley Wold
Documents Librarian
University of Arkansas at Little Rock
stwold@ualr
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:40:41 CDT
From:         cox@acc.stolaf.edu
Subject:      re:receipt of NTDB CD

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We received a CD for the NTDB dated March 1992...a moot point since the
only equipment we were successful in running it on was the Autographics
Monthly Catalog...and that's dead.  With all of the questions and problems
about CD_ROM products on Govdoc-L, I am beginning to question the wisdom
of this most over-rated example of "progress" the GPO has managed to ram
down our throats.  Whatever became of the goal of making govt information
available to the public?  We're seriously considering cancelling all but
the most obviously important ones like the Census.

J. Randolph Cox
St. Olaf College
Cox@stolaf.edu
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:54:29 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      UN Question:

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Subject: UN Question:
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Librarian
PHONE: 588-6760

I am going to reply to the list, since others might want to know about this. I
believe the U.N. publication on women that Steve Hayes at Notre Dame asks about
is the one entitled "The World's Women 1970-1990. Trends and Statistics. Social
Statistics and Indicators Series K, No. 8." It was published by the U.N. Dept.
of International Economic and Social Affairs in 1991. The sales no., which we
use to shelve by, is XVII.1990.3 if that helps. It has 120 pp.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:36:08 CDT
From:         Judy <SZ5@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      American Housing Survey on CD

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Does anyone know anything about the American Housing Survey on
CD?  We have the 1985/87 disc that was issued in Feb. 1991.  One
of our librarians heard that the 1989 disc was issued.  Has this
really been issued?  When can we expect it in the depository program?

Thanks for any information you can provide.  I've been trying to
reach Sheila McGarr, but have not yet been successful.

Judy Schneider
US GAO Library
sz5@nihcu.bitnet
sz5@cu.nih.gov (Internet)

P.S. Item number is 156-P and SuDoc is C 3.215/19:.
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From:         VICKY YORK <alivy%msu.dnet@mtsunix1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: NTDB and NESE-DB CDROMs

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Its great to see someone from the Office of Business Analysis on this
list, providing information on the NTDB and NESE databank, training
opportunities, etc.  Those at the depository meeting got a preview
of the prototype NESE disc, with new and improved Browse.  Lots of
good information pulled together on one disc.  With all the various
agencies represented on this new domestic statistics disc, one
surprising omission is BLS - How about Handbook of Labor Statisics,
Occupational Outlook Handbook, time series from Employment, Hours
and Earnings (the possibilities could be endless).  When we get
the  NESE discs, we need to provide feedback including other agencies/
statistical series, publications for future discs.

Vicky York
Government Information
Montana State University Libraries
Bozeman, MT
alivy@mtsunix1.bitnet
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:33:26 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Routing the Federal Register:

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Subject: re:routing the federal register

The justification for routing the Federal Register to our Government Foundations
Office (grant writing assistance) is part of our outreach program.  Once the
office has finished with the issue (usually in a day or two) they are sent back
and cataloged for the depository collection.
J. Randolph Cox
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN 55057-1097
cox@stolaf.edu
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:42:38 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Item list selection:

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Date: 08 Apr 1992 10:33:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Isabella O'Neill-Lack" <IOLACK@JADE.BUCKNELL.EDU>
Subject: Collection Development
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     The Bertrand Library is a selective depository library receiving
approximately 33% of all documents released.  I am in the process of
reviewing our item number selection and some questions come to mind
in terms of developing a documents collection more responsive to the
needs of the constituency, including the academic departments, that it
should serve.
     First of all, have any other selective depository libraries considered
or implemented a system of "collective" item selection among all the
librarians, where particular individuals review and recommend from a range
of item numbers asssigned to them?  (i.e. The education subject librarian
would review the item numbers for documents from the Department of Education.)
The obvious problem with this is that not all the library's subject
development areas fall neatly into catagories within individual government
departments.
     Secondly, if a collective review system is used, who coordinates and
makes final decisions for the selection?  Is it the collection development
librarian or the librarian directly responsible for government documents?
     Finally, does a collective item selection such as this cause total
chaos or does it add positively to the documents collection?
     Thanks for any help or comments.  You may respond directly to me.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:35:32 CDT
From:         "Susan E. Tulis" <set7c@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Depository Library Council Members

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In response to Jim Veatch's request for e-mail addresses for the new Council
members.  I am still in the process of gathering that information.  I need to
hear from 2 members - but will post the information once I have it.  Also,
FAX numbers.


Susan E. Tulis                              Phone    804/924-3504
University of VA Law Library                Fax      804/982-2232
Charlottesville, VA 22901                   Bitnet   set7c@virginia
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