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From: eugene@win29.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene Miya)
Subject: Re: nuclear Japan
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:39:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.145655.8625@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com
(Michael Goldman ) writes:
>>Wasn't there a Todai professor who was doign some research on the bomb during
>>WW2, who blew himself up?
>	Hirohito himself had patronized the experimental research
>	you refer to.  A 38-year old Physicist named Odan and some
>	technicians were blown up in what was probably a chemical
>	explosion due to carelessness under pressure to get a bomb
>	working before the US invaded.  The explosion demolished
>	several buildings, just a few months before the US dropped 
>	their own bombs.	  ^^^^^^^^^^
					|
Questionable for several reasons--------- which I won't get into.

Far more serious was the destruction of the only cyclotron by occupation
forces before the Alsos Mission could capture it.

>	An interesting alternate history; what if Japan had gotten
>	the bomb first?  Would we now be treated to Japanese
>	expressions of sorrow and guilt at the nuking of San Francisco
>	and Seattle?  Given the character of the Japanese government
>	at the time, I sort of doubt it.

More improbable than a German first bomb.  One would have to make up for
1) Lack of uranium supplies
2) Isotope separation facilities (this alone no one in the Axis could
	fore see, the totally of Manhattan was 10% of the entire US war
	effort$).
3) Delivery systems resources lacking
4) A host of other miscellaneous reasons.

Beason and Goldman (2nd author?) explored this question in The Trinity Paradox.
For the Germans: and if the Japanese tried, they most likely would have
tried spreading radioactive toxins on a West Coast city (by submarine,
quite plausible).  B&G made the mission a suicide mission (plausible).
They killed 50K New Yorkers in their story (hard to say).  But the
upshot was that the US bomb was made (B&G are quite knowledgeable about
weapons), and then "beat the shit" out of Germany, Japan, and Korea
with numerous atomic bombings in their story.  Nuclear energy was sci-fi
to the population back then, even to nuclear physicists outside the US
and a few in the US not employed by the War Dept.  Remember Pearl Harbor
would have still overshadowed Remember NYC or SF.
But remember ... it's their story.

Just passing thru.....

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
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A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:41:36 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


 robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

>                                 One time in Kanda, Tokyo, a woman did 
>clearly run from me into a parking lot building, 

   Too bad!
   I don't know how the situation was in detail, and am not sure.
But, recently the crime of freigners was often described on many TV news,
newspapers, and journals in Japan. Therefore, she might respond too 
sensitively.
   Or some Japanese ladise are too sensitive. For example, one of my friends,
who is a Japanese, just walked behind a lady in a night. She recognized him,
and suddenly ran away clearly fearing him. He was very angry, and told me,
'She doesn't recognized how her face was. Even if she had slept naked there,
I never attack her.'

   By the way, how was her face in your case?   :-)

********************************
*      Hirokatsu Watanabe      *
*------------------------------*
* Mo^karimakka?  Sapparidesuwa *
*         Maido Ookini         *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:33:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.182532.5662@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.130800.23652@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep28.152257.2783@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>>It has been my impression that many Japanese are almost completely unaware of
>>>the events surrounding the Soviet-Japanese relations in WWII.
>>
>>I wonder what you mean by this.  Please be more specific.
>>The major conflicts (which began by Japanese intrusion and resulted in
>>a crushing defeat) took place before the WWII(1939/1941) and accordingly
>>before the neutrality treaty (1941).
>
>The stance by most Japanese is "We didn't attack them!" when in fact the
>Japanese DID attack the USSR; they simply got beaten badly. The attacks 
>took place without any formal declarations on their part. As for the neutrality
>pact, that doesn't seem like it meant much; had the Japanese felt there to 
>be an opportunity, there is little doubt they would have attacked again. 
>After all, China had received repeated assurances from the Japanese, yet Japan
>kept expanding the war on some pretext or another.
>
>In any event, when confronted with the knowledge that Japan indeed atatcked the
>USSR without any formal declarations, most Japanese seem to become a bit less
>secure in their belief that Russia treacherously attacked poor Japan who was
>too weak to defend herself. Japan had proven incapable of defeating Soviet
>forces well before that.

So you are not speaking of any incident during the WWII period.
That was what I wanted to know.
Your article was obscure in that it was not clear whether you
were talking of the CHOUKOHOU/NOMONHAN incidents (as well as those preceding
that; perhaps including the counter-revolution war?) or
WWII incidents that I may well not be aware of.

And I don't seem to be the only one with that problem,
regarding your article citing your correspondence with Keis Ohtsuka.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: bahman@ic15.umeeng (Bahman S Kermanshahi)
Subject: Kinokunia Book-store
Keywords: Tel:#
Reply-To: bahman@ic15.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:17:37 GMT

Hi everybody,

	I'm looking for telephone and FAX number of 

KINOKUNIA SHOTEN (Kinokunia Book-store) in Los Angeles.

Is there someone who can help me in L.A.?


This is my e-mail:

     bahman@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca


With lot's of thanks.

.. Bahman Kermanshahi (Nagasaka)
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!))
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:28:18 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

While Bush hasn't done a whole lot of Japan-US relations I believe Clinton
would be worse.

In his book, "Putting People First," which outlines his platform, Clinton says
that Bush should "insist that Japan adopt expansionary policies to reduce its
$100 bilion trade surplus." "A Clinton-Gore Administration will hold all
advanced countries accountable for doing their part to promote world trade, end
unfair trade practices, and open markets."

Clinton would support a "strong Super 301" trade law. "Our competitors need to
know that we won't stand for unfair trade practices taht prevent our farmer,
workers, and businesses from selling products abroad and creating jobs at
home."

Clinton would like to re-evaluate MFN with China. He supports and would promote
GATT while at the same time supporting the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Clinton would like to create an Economic Security Council. He does not
elaborate on this accept to say that it would be similar to the National
Security Council.

Clinton has said in numerous speeches that he supports "fair and free trade."
On this point Clinton is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Clinton
clearly supports managed trade and the US using its influence to tell other
countries what they can and cannot do in the world market place. US influence
will always be used to bend the world market place to the good of American
interests. Whatever else you may think about this, it is neither fair nor free.

I believe that over all Clinton will have a negative affect on US-Japan
relations. Clinton clearly wishes to impose government regulation on trade in
an effort to enforce what he and his administration decides is "fair." I
seriously question the viability of this arrangement. The government, for
whatever reasons, has not been able to manage its own affairs (House bank
scandal, the national debt, Iran-amuck, etc) so you will have to excuse me if I
laugh when they say they want to manage anything else.

smittie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: Tokyo Disneyland
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:13:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.225447.15051@lsil.com> mitch@dc49.dc writes:

>how much is a train ride from Tokyo Station?

Tokyo <-> Maihama, on Keiyo Line, costs 210yen, takes 20 minutes.
Maihama station is directly connected to the entrance of T.D.

I don't know the answers of any other questions you asked. Sorry.
Actually, I've never been there before. But what I said above is true.

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fishe@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Carwil James)
Subject: Re: Japanese word processer software need
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:07:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.012718.13976@nuscc.nus.sg> elezhouh@nuscc.nus.sg (Zhou Hong (Dr)) writes:
>Could someone tell me where I can retrieve via ftp Japanese word
>processer software used on IBM-PC.           
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Zhou
>At NUS
Also, does anyone no of similar programs for Mac, Amiga or NeXT.

Thanks,

Carwil James
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Foreign Ogres (was Mr. Baseball
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:33:07 GMT
	<1992Oct2.190502.7419@u.washington.edu> <7317@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
	<1992Oct5.154126.886@u.washington.edu> <7320@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: blamb@hri.com's message of 5 Oct 92 20:31:35 GMT

In article <7320@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

 =}The implication though, is that it is fear that
 =}drives such a "gaijin con". It is fear sometimes, but mostly it is
 =}fear of not acting properly, or fear to offend, and this is a little
 =}different than that of your implications (actually, I'm trying to
 =}explain better the background of what I think you mean), but
 =}causing the same outward effect.

   I would assess it as a fear of the unknown (no need to start a new
mythos of Japanese "offense fearers")...  How each person sees that
fear will depend upon the way that person normally acts in a group.
So amongst a group of close friends there would be less of the "offense"
worry/fear and more of the "will we get along" worry/fear.  With a
group of workmates, it would be more of the "can we communicate" or
"can we work together well" type wory/fear...  For a party it might be
"how should I act so as not to look like a fool" type worry/fear...

   And the social "mythos" will provide the other fears of the unknown.
When the "unknown" is a big hairy barbarian foreigner :) then the fear
would probably include "fear of bodily harm" as the myths about foreigners
include things like "foreigners are violent and mean", "foreigners like
to fight", and so on...  I've had many friends confide in me that at first
they were afraid that I was like the stereotype (violent, mean, brawler)
but were relieved that I was civilized.
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Salesperson's attitude (was Re: Interesting observations)
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:24:18 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center


   Larry Greenfield's friend's comment and Sandy Antunes' reply seem to be
summarized that:

"The salespersons in the US are friendly and supportive but obnoxiously pushy"
while
"The salespersons in Japan are less intrusive and less interfering but stuffy."
 
 I can think of two reasons among other possibilities.

   First, I heard that some stores in the US pay a commision to a salesperson
depending on how much he/she sells. Therefore, catching a customer before
a rival colleague does is important. In Japan, it does not usually seem that
the salary depends on the amount of sales by a salesperson as an inividual.
 
   Second, I sometimes feel that a salesperson in the US talks to a customer
in order to show that he/she is keeping an eye on us. By doing so, they seem
to be trying to discourage shoplifters.

Michiaki Masuda
From: htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Hope you liked...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:30:01 GMT

Hope you liked the previous post.

Send all comments to...(always good to know that someone is out there
appreciating my work)
===============================================================
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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Pro Wrestling in Japan
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


    I noticed several people who live in Japan post to this group.  Is there
anyone living in Japan who is a pro wrestling fan who would be willing to
trade video tapes of current Japanese wrestling in exchange for video tapes
of current American wrestling?  Shows taped right off of television is what I'm
looking for.  If there is anyone interested, just e-mail me in response to this
post and we'll work something out.
                                               Thanks a lot,
                                                     Eric
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:41:54 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> In article <1aft44INN9f0@agate.berkeley.edu>
=> lindaa@sooth.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher) writes:
=> >I've been watching some of Tom Selleck's interviews re "Mr. Baseball"
=> >and I'm amazed at his rather one-sided view of Japan.  He keeps saying
=> >(I've seen him on a few of the entertainment "news" show) that the Japanese
=> >people on the streets treated him as if he were a monster, pulling their
=> >children away as he walked by.

= In article <1992Oct1.224540.4992@u.washington.edu>,
= tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
=> I don't know how to say this. I currently don't have a hidden
=> agenda and it is only this post that causes me to say it, but
=> the same thing happened to me all the time when I lived in Japan.
=> Sorry for my impertinence, but is it possible that some Japanese
=> children (and their parents occasionally) really *do* have a severe
=> gaijin-con (4NR-complex) and act wierd when they see a 4NR walking
=> down the street? Or am I Japan-bashing again? Or is Japan-bashing
=> just telling anything unpleasant about Japan even if it's totally
=> true? (I'm still unclear on that.)
=> 
=> Would any other 4N men or women living in Japan care to support me in
=> this? Do Japanese children sometimes hide behind their mothers when
=> you approach? Have you ever seen any really scared by you (to the
=> point of crying)?  Have you seen adults really scared by you? If so
=> was it pretty obvious that it was because you were 4N?

You are not alone.

I hate to break my veil of anonymity, but I am big, with blond/red hair,
blue eyes, and a red beard now tending toward white. I have had
children run from me in terror, screaming at the top of their lungs.
One girl of about 7 or 8 ran to a phone box crying when she saw me,
and held one foot up against the door in case I tried to eat her.
I have sat on trains or busses where people would stand rather than
sit next to me. (Well.... might happen here too!) Toddlers have
clung to their Moms in apparent terror.

I also was followed by group of about eight 10 year-old boys in
Ueno Park who thought I was Randy Bass, formerly a triple crown
winner with Hanshin. I have been routinely and closely inspected
by bar hostesses, who usually inquire of the color of my "under
hair", and ask to see my chest hair.

But also, I found that many kids are attracted, and want to say
"hello" to the big and obvious 4nr. They really enjoy if I play
ball with them, show them pictures, and so on. 

I have a baby daughter, and she doesn't seem to like strangers
either. She seems to think men are normal when they are big and
have beards, and small women with black hair are also OK. 
Anyone else.... she often cries.

- Bill Lambert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: collins@socrates.umd.edu (Jim C)
Subject: Deluxe Beppin
Keywords: article
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:14:25 GMT

Does anyone else in this newsgroup get Deluxe Beppin?
There's an article in the Oct. 92 (current) issue I have some questions
about :-). 
Jim C.
collins@socrates.umd.edu

-- 
        "By practice, even without understanding, it will be made plain; your
body will understand it long before your mind puts words to it. No amount of
understanding without practice will work. It is not necessary that knowledge 
precede experience. Performance will produce knowledge."
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:23:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc12

In article <1992Sep30.160107.3801@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
[rather extreme punishment deleted]
>equivalent of the PTA meeting to discuss the situation, the parents of 3 of
>the boys got up and formally thanked the teachers for taking such an interest
>in the boys' behavior, and apologized for the offending behavior. The parents
>of the 4th boy wondered if this may have been too severe, and asked that the
>teachers take care that no harm come to any such student next time.

I'm trying to stay out of anything controversial to avoid massive free-time
loss, but I'll back up statements of parents backing punishment. When I had
(part-time) an elementary students English class one parent told the school
that if her child was unruly that I was to hit her.

Ross-c

PS: I didn't. (Will admit to a "dunce chair" though).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: Japanese word processer software need
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:23:43 GMT

In article <5793@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, 6500topo@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Rabid Rat) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep28.012718.13976@nuscc.nus.sg> elezhouh@nuscc.nus.sg (Zhou Hong (Dr)) writes:
|> 
|> >Could someone tell me where I can retrieve via ftp Japanese word
|> >processer software used on IBM-PC.           
|> 
|> >Thank you in advance.
|> 
|> >Zhou
|> >At NUS
|> 
|> Try FTPing rigel.acs.oakland.edu
|> 
|> Under /pub/msdos/txtutl they should still have two nj101?.zip files
|> archive versions of NJSTAR, really neat Japanese WP, that can handle
|> Kanji as well as Kana. I's shareware, but the price (aroud fifty $)
|> is really low.
|>

MOKE 2.1 from KiCompWare runs about $80 and is quite good.
It has a good "henkan" capability.  The editor has 
features similar to the "vi" editor (i.e. insert mode <-> command
mode) ... which may be a plus or a minus depending on your
affinity for "vi".


    MOKE 2.1  (~$80)
    KiCompWare
    1812 N. Erb St.
    Appleton, WI 54915
    Tel: 414-832-1222
    BBS: 414-735-6020

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tanaka@til.com             Irvine, California, USA
uunet!til!tanaka           714-975-8522
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From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Violence against women....
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:25:50 GMT
	<3969@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov>
	<HARKCOM.92Sep28095311@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
	<4014@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> <BvHLGr.D0J@world.std.com>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: cmr@world.std.com's message of 2 Oct 92 09:10:03 GMT

In article <BvHLGr.D0J@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
   writes:

 =}...doesn't kowa gaijin $@X530?M(J  refer to exactly that kind of 
 =}person. Doesn't the existance the phrase add weight to the arguments
 =}even in the absence of quantifying data?

   Not neccesarily...  The existence of a myth is only sometimes based
in fact...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: zing@wilber.rich.nt.com (Leon Z. Lee)
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Organization: Northern Telecom, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:22:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.124330.1416@math.ufl.edu> sfm@math.ufl.edu (Santa for Me) writes:
[...]
>
>	I was in Japan at the time of the incident and
>if memory serves, the gate was closing at the hands of a teacher
>who was attempting to keep the student from entering school due
>to tardiness.  An investigation ensued, though the final outcome
>i am as of yet unaware.
>
>servio

As I recalled....the teacher in question was attempting to teach the tardy
student about promptness.  Therefore, he told her to go back out of the
school where they will enact this scenario.  The student was suppose
to leap pass the large metal gate just as the teacher threw it shut.
However, the girl's head was caught between the metal gate and the
concrete block just she attempt to leap through and subsequently
suffered severe concussions to the head and died.

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