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From: vinita@redbird.pa.dec.com (Vinita Bhatia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
Subject: Survey of international students
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:10:34 GMT
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This is a request for help in a survey of facilities provided to internation
students on different campuses.  I need the information for a class project.

I will appreciate you sharing your experiences of the International Students
Offices in your university with me.  Please let me know of any program that
you thought was useful to you when you joined the school.  Also, if you felt
there was something for which you really needed help and was not addressed
before or after you joined the school.

Thanks for your help.

Vinita
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Vinita Bhatia
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From: an8050@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Namaskar
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:40:56 GMT

Hi,
thought i'd just say namaskar.


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From: harmo@valt.Helsinki.FI (TIMO HARMO)
Subject: Re: Himal
Organization: University of Helsinki, Faculty of Social Sciences
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:59:05 GMT

>One person notified me that there was a new contact person
>for HIMAL in North America:

Where could we Europeans subscribe Himal? I have read a few issues
and found it very interesting.
 -Timo
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From: guvenc@faraday.clas.virginia.edu (Aylin Guvenc)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:43:34 GMT

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From: CAOX@qucdn.queensu.ca (A.Ahmed)
Subject: none
Keywords: na
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:22:38 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal
From: richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (C. Richter)
Subject: Re: Himal
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:50:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.134211.6564@afterlife.ncsc.mil> rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randile the Reptile) writes:
>	This is the first I have heard of this publication.
>(Sorry if I missed some earlier discussions.) I recently
>returned from a month of trekking in the Everest region
>in Oct. Needless to say, I had a great time and have become
>very interested in Nepal, its culture, and its people.
>I think my fondest memories are the warmth and friendliness
>of the people. Perhaps, Himal would be a good publication
>for me to get. Could someone post a few comments on Himal?
>What sort of articles and subjects does it contain?
>Photos? Worth getting? Any comments would be appreciated.

If you are looking for glossy colour photos, you'll be disappointed, as there 
are none, just some black and white, and not very good ones at that.

But if you are interested in cultural, economic, political and environmental
issues concerning Nepal and the whole Himilaya, then this will please.     
Himal is a wonderfully literate popular magazine, one of the best I have 
seen from the "Third World".

Conrad Richter 
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From: gbk1998@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: change in E-Mail address
Reply-To: gbk1998@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:25:14 GMT


This is for those who had been collecting the E-Mail addresses of all the
Nepali folks studying and staying in the United States of America as well as
for the Despatch of "NEPAL DIGEST". My previous E-Mail address (that was being
used for various purposes) was ICSIF256. For all practical purpose I want to be 
addressed in the following addresses:

E-Mail: GBK1998
Home address: BHEEM PRAKASH KATTEL
              103  3A GRANT CHAMBERLAIN DRIVE
              BOZEMAN, MT 59715
              U.S.A.
Phone: (406) 585-9520

Thank you.
From: mulligan@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Raymond)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Casement update
Summary: A rather biased account
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:11:14 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited. Tokyo, Japan

In article <1993Jan22.163836.20542@e2big.mko.dec.com>, han
 writes:


[MH]   As the funeral cortege made its way to Milltown, a
[MH]   speeding car drove into the funeral.

How about, 
"A speeding car frantically tried to REVERSE away from the
funeral cortege."

[MH]   It was surrounded by frightened
[MH]   unarmed mourners.

How about,
"It was descended upon by mob of republican thugs, who acted true to form"

[MH]   The occupants of the car produced guns (I've a
[MH]   photo of one of the undercover British soldiers drawing his weapon
[MH]   to shoot on the unarmed crowd).

How about,
" in pulling the unfortunate men from their car and beating them senseless.
  In a fruitless attempt to defend themselves the men drew a gun but lacked 
  the good judgement to use it."

[MH]   In view of what had happened three
[MH]   days previously, the crowd defended themselves during which a shot
[MH]   was fired.  The men were eventually disarmed by the crowd.  They
[MH]   were later taken from the crowd and eventually shot by the IRA.

disarmed by the crowd' ??

How about,
" kicked senseless by the crowd."

__________________________________

It is very disturbing to me that, even upon viewing the tape of the incident
that someone could write an account like Mr Mark Holohan's. It gives me very
little hope for peace, when people won't believe the evidence before there
eyes.

I think Mr Holohan should confine his future posts to soc.flat.earth 

Rm

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From: dwilkins@maths.tcd.ie (David Wilkins)
Subject: Re: King's and Queen's Coy
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:59:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.195546.18313@maths.tcd.ie> I write, in relation
to the establishment of King's and Queen's Counties
>In article <1993Jan18.222906.5599@maths.tcd.ie> pwaldron@maths.tcd.ie (Paddy Waldron) writes:
[...]
>>At a rough guess, I would say that the names were first used around the
>>1600s, when plantations of British settlers took place in these areas.
>>Someone with a better head for historical dates might correct me.
>>
>
>A bit earlier.  The plantations took place during the reign of
>Mary I.  She was the queen referred to in Queen's County.  The
>king was her husband, Philip of Spain.

Checking this out, it seems that Queen's and King's Counties were
established by act of Parliament in Dublin in 1557.  Prior to that
these ares seem to have been known as the Lordships of Leix and Offaly.

The following quote describes the establishment of the plantation by
Fitzwalter (Earl of Sussex):

   Thereafter he turned to Leix-Offaly where he hoped to turn the
   garrisons into self-sufficient colonies.  His instructions were
   that, provided the local clansmen proved tractable, they should
   be alloted the western third of their territories along the
   Shannon, individual clansmen to receive in common socage smallish
   estates not exceeding two ploughlands (or 240 medieval acres) at
   2d. an acre annually; on pain of forfeiture they were to use
   English law and customs; build houses in stone or timber, avoid
   the woods, and not to retain idlemen.  Outside the Gaelic
   reservations, six ploughlands were to be assigned to Forts
   Goverenor and Protector, and the rest distributed among
   `Englishmen born in England or Ireland' in estates not exceeding
   three ploughlands held on similar terms but retaining for each
   ploughland one native English archer `and not above one of the
   Irish blood and birth'.  Any lands recovered elsewhere from
   `rebels, traitors, and enemies' would be distributed in
   similar proportions.

In the event the local clansmen did not prove tractable, and Sussex
had to go to war against the O'Mores and O'Connors.

[Source: Steven G. Ellis, `Tudor Ireland.  Crown, Community and
the Conflict of Cultures 1470-1603'.]
From: mike@frey.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Another Maze prisoner recaptured?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:46:47 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@frey.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.81
Summary: Paul Brennan

I'd been hearing about this in the local rumor mill for
the past 2 days but finally found something in the paper.
In the 28 Jan 93 Oakland Tribune, B-3, headline above
tiny article: "Irish escapee arrested here" Berkeley--
"A 3rd man accused of taking part in a mass escape from
Northern Ireland's Maze prison in 1983 has been arrested
in Berkeley."

The article goes on to identify the man as Paul Brennan, 39,
who had been using the name Pol Morgan, & that he was being
held w/o bail but does not specify where, nor is anything
disclosed about how Brennan was found out.
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: This Favorite Lie Again.
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 17:30:07 EST

In article <1993Jan22.163945.22085@bristol.ac.uk> P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>In article <llro7kINNnal@news.bbn.com> mbrennan@spca.bbn.com (Maeve Brennan) writes:
>a mere few hundred years ago.  However, most of these 'Irish' Irish are
>Gaels -- they didn't originate in Ireland, but rather invaded Ireland
>from Scotland, taking over from the Picts, about 1000-1500 years ago.

Not really--the Celts came from Britain ca. 700 BC--about 2700 years ago.

>So, by the same arguments they use, they don't belong there either, and
>ought to move back to Scotland where they belong.

Snort.
>
>The Picts, in turn, conquered Ireland sometime back between the Bronze
>Age and the Iron Age, and so are really interlopers as well -- though
>I'm not sure who they took over from.  (The reason you don't hear much
>about them is that they were completely wiped out by the Gaels.  I
>suppose there may be a lesson in this, but it's not a very pleasant
>one.  Something along lines of 'if you're going to take over a country,
>kill off all the indigenous inhabitants, because otherwise they'll come
>back to cause trouble in a few hundred years'.  I have a vague feeling

You misapply racial notions of the twentieth century to the past. The
Celts dis not kill off the Picts so much as intermarry with them. The
lesson here is that considerable interbreeding happemed in the British
Isles. I truly am skeptical of the notion than a few thousand Celtic   
wanderers could have "wiped out" an established, developed (and judging
by Newgrange and Stonehenge) fairly developed society of the time.
>
Chris
From: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: This Favorite Lie Again.
Date: 28 Jan 1993 03:19:46 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.60

Chris Cooke writes:
>I thought that what is now Scotland was settled by Picts, then invaded by the
>Britons, then by the Gaels.  All of these were Celts.  It was then invaded by

>Scotland is an inseparable mixture of all of these, I can't see how "Scots
>are Gaels"...?

Scotland's people may be a mix of all of the above & then some, but
the "Gaels" who invaded N Britain from Ireland & eventually took over
the place were called "Scots".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: ms@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Markus Schoeller)
Subject: RUNRIG in Germany
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:10:33 GMT

Hello Runrig-Fans!

Last Friday I saw an ad for a Runrig-concert in Duesseldorf on May, 7th.
Somebody told me they will also play in Cologne. Now my question:

Is there a new Runrig-album available and is this a "world"-tour?

Many thanks!

Markus
From: mulligan@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Raymond)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Casement update
Summary: Mr Mullethead ?
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:49:51 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited. Tokyo, Japan

In article <1993Jan26.170426.12806@e2big.mko.dec.com>, holohan@mark.enet.dec.com (Mark Holohan) writes:

[MH]   Mr. Mullethead is not only an extremist, but a British apologist.
[MH]   Halpin, you should be a lawyer. I make a statement about frightened
[MH]   unarmed mourners, Mullethead calls these people republican thugs,
[MH]   but I'm to blame for driving him to this awful statement.

I was only acting extreme, Mr Haplin was correct in identifying my reaction
as motivated by Mr Hooligan's [??] rather biased account of the mob's behaviour
on this particular occasion.

Statements like

[MH]   "frightened unarmed mourners". 

You make it sound like they drove into a herd of sheep.

Just for the record, I am Irish, Catholic and from Ulster. I am not a 
"British apologist" as Hooligan says, but neither am I extreme republican.

I will repeat my wish for Hooligan to post in future to soc.flat.earth where
he may correspond with minds as narrow as his own.

"His mind was so narrow he could see through a keyhole with both eyes."

Rm


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From: mntneer@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Trip to Ireland
Date: 20 Jan 93 11:09:03 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1j3eubEINNjmk@uni-erlangen.de>, mlrettel@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Michael Rettelbach) writes:
> These prizes are valid, if I book the car from here (Germany) at Hertz
> (I think). Is there any chance to get a chaper car or perhaps a
> Camping-Bus if I book it in Ireland directly?
  
> Michael

Rang Hertz Ireland.
They confirmed that hiring of a car for pickup in Ireland through Hertz Germany
*is* be cheaper. They mentioned that this was availible through a "holiday"
rate, but could not give any cost details of the German rates.

You might also consider any fly-drive package that your Ireland-bound airline
might offer. These are almost always cheaper than the rate charged to domestic
customers. We pay for the tourists!!!
You were probably quoted the domestic rate when you telephoned Hertz Ireland.

Ciaran

Mountaineering Club.
University College, Dublin.		Internet: mntneer@ccvax.ucd.ie
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From: Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Un peth sy'n codi'r galon ar brynhawn tywyll o aeaf...
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:01:14 GMT
Organization: Threadgold's Thourough-Grip Garterettes
Originator: geraint@clts1.comlab

...yw gwybod na fydd neges yn Gymraeg yn debyg o godi crachen rhyw Americanwr
fydd yn mynd ymlaen i gychwyn ffrae am hawliau gwleidyddol yn y Dwyrain Canol
neu hanes y daten dartan yn Alban y ddeunawfed ganrif.  Daria fo, mae hi'n  /
dda bod a iaith i sbario weithiau.  				           /g
___
   Ond wedyn, hwyrach bydden nhw'n meddwl ein bod ni'n siarad amdanyn nhw.
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Irish Books/U.S. Bookshops
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 02:54:18 EST

In article <93022.174628U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> <U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>.........much overemotional response deleted..................
>
>                 Any inference that this reflects disrespect toward the Irish
>                 (self-hate ?) is mistaken. Ireland spent centuries under
>                 a memorably brutal colonial authority. Many other cultures
>                 simply died under such circumstances. Ireland not only
>                 survived, but still mananged to have a level of cultural
>                 productivity. Expecting that level to match that of
>                 wealthier, unoccupied countries would be ridiculous, though.
>                 How much time does a tenant farmer have to write books ?
>                 And even if he does, what are the odds that they won't be lost
>                 ? Realistically, without divine intervention, Ireland couldn't
>                 have matched the cultural output of Italy, or France, or China
>                 ....   The opportunity didn't exist. Yet.

I don't get it. Cultural productivity is directly related to wealth of a 
nation? Where's the proof? Ireland's cultural devolopment was (and is)
quite high compared to the rest of Europe, despite economic disadvantage.
Culture before 1800 had absolutely nothing to do with writing books.
The folktales, songs, fables and such were the true cultural existence 
of any society before the universality of literacy. You may be 
confusing urban culture (Italy/China) with agrarian culture. There
is an important distinction.

>
>              2. While I do have some warm feelings toward certain countries
>                 (Ireland, Israel...), work has to come before pleasure (at
>                  least until I'm a lot richer). The Japanese, the Russians,
>                  the Chinese, et al are large, powerful peoples that I'd do
>                  well to understand - whoever I end up working for (even if
>                  that happens to be myself, as a self-employed engineer)
>                  will probably end up doing business with them, or competing
>                  with them often (especially the Japanese, who are an
>                  extremely visible presence in Chicago already).

I agree that today, in the world of technology, there are nations that      
have far more resources than Ireland. But to dismiss Ireland as unimport-
ant in this regard seems somewhat erroneous. As an engineer, you are 
right to be concerned with the here and now, but when evaluating 
cultural impact on the world, the same set of preconceptions cannot
and do not hold. Portugal, for example, is among the lowest rung of
European nations in terms of power/technology/economy, as in Ireland, 
but this was not always so, and any attempt to explain the development
of modern science and discovery without discussing Portuguese discoveries
fails. 

Chris
From: kakleman@acpub.duke.edu (Kubilay Akleman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: This Favorite Lie Again.
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:23:01 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <30351@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
> Yup - and then we're all going to Europe to kick your asses and make you
>drink Budweiser 

>				gln

ATTENTION: NITPICKING

The original "Budweiser" comes from the town of Ceske Budejovice in the Czech 
Republic. The German name for this town is "Budweis", hence "Budweiser": 
(Beer) from Budweis. (I have a can of it in my 'fridge!)

END OF NITPICKING

Now why did I write that? 
Never mind...

P.S. Europeans will NEVER drink American Budweiser, European beer is 10x better

Andrew
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Casement update
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:37:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <1993Jan20.205436.22011@e2big.mko.dec.com> holohan@mark.enet.dec.com (Mark Holohan) writes:

   The British government revealed during the eighth trial in November 1992
   that there may be a ninth trial arising out of the Casement Park incident
   on March 19, 1988.  The Casement Park incident arose after two British
   Army corporals drove into a funeral cortege in 1988.  The soldiers were
   removed from their car after on of them fired shots.  They were then taken
   away to Casement Park where they were shot by the IRA.

Genuine question: *were* they shot by the IRA?  The media here has always
given the impression that the two men were ripped apart limb from limb by an
angry crowd, rather than shot.

   Because the British are still arresting for this incident, the matter is
   "sub judice" and, therefore, receives very little media coveragye.  The
   "sub judice" rules, particular to British criminal trials, are a
   convenient method of covering up controversial matters.  

Quite possibly, yes; but they're also a convenient method of trying to
prevent the jurors at any subsequent trial of getting a biased or incomplete
idea of events from the papers before the trial takes place.  It may have
great flaws, but it's better than trial-by-The-Sun.  Maybe a legal expert
could tell us more about it.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: This Favorite Lie Again.
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:10:19 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.celtic
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1993Jan20.043445.18913@newstand.syr.edu>, crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Christopher R. Dunlea) writes:
> The British are not the problem and are in somewhat as much of a quandary as 
> anyone. It is the Unionists who demand British government and troops, not the
> UK. Politically, Whitehall is trapped.

Oh - poor babies... ggez - how did they ever get into such an unfair
situation? I can't imagine...

> will EVER blockade the UK?!! You forget that both Australia and Canada have
> the Queen as head of State. And the US will always back Britain against Ireland

And you knocked this guy for his history???!!?? Geezuz... 


			gln




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