HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: John Winston is not a real person?
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:29:11 -0600
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

To answer my own question:

Portal Communications Company (PORTAL-DOM)
   20863 Stevens Creek Boulevard
   Suite 200
   Cupertino, CA  95014

   Domain Name: PORTAL.COM

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Little, John  (JL115)  jel@CORP.PORTAL.COM
      (408) 973-9111

   Record last updated on 30-Dec-92.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NOVA.UNIX.PORTAL.COM         192.83.245.2
   UUCP-GW-1.PA.DEC.COM         16.1.0.18
   UUCP-GW-2.PA.DEC.COM         16.1.0.19

YEA, but what do they _do_?
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: Everyone Listen-up!
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:48:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.154043.23434@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
>In article <1i7ndfINNins@network.ucsd.edu> spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
>>In article <72694@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>>>Dear People: I'm not an alien. I was born in Texas.
>>
>>That's alien enough for me.
>>
>
>Laugh while you can, monkey-boy!
>
>--
>Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
>mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com                       _-\_<,
>"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)

Yo, Ed!  What's a pair of boots with a cowboy hat sitting on top of 'em?

A Texan with the s#*t kicked out of 'em!

kbq

--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:48:56 CST
From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Conclusions RE:John Winston

I now realize that I have contributed enough comments (or garbage as
some people may view it) and have come to the conclusion that:
1) Those who are interested in a moderated group should create one.
   Those who hate moderated groups can stay here if they so choose.
   A code of conduct could be drawn up such that material that is
   relevant to the discussion of UFOs, aliens, etc. be accepted
   and nonrelevant material (such as flames, 2 liners, etc) be
   rejected.  Again, those who hate this arrangement would not be
   at all forced to participate in this newsgroup.
2) Some people like John Winston's comments. So be it.
3) Some people don't but agree that it is his right to do this.
   So be it.
4) Personnally, I will publicly ignore irrelevant posts to this
   group because I think they deter worthwhile conversation of what
   this group is supposedly discussing.
5) I will not post any more articles on this subject.
Thanks for your comments on my suggestions/comments.
Thanks for your patience.
Ethan Haslett
u37460@uicvm.uic.edu
From: dbt@cellar.org (Marquis de Freud)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: NASA Anti-Gravity Patent
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:17:46 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

I would also like to request a copy of NASA's anti-gravity patent. Please 
send one for me, one for my parents, one for my girlfriend, one for my 
brother, one for my brother's girlfriend (and one for her engineer father), 
one for my minister, and one for my psychotherapist.

Oh yes, please send one for my dog, Gurdjieff.

dbt@cellar.org <-- *not* affiliated with the Scientology Sea *Org*

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dbt@cellar.org (Marquis de Freud)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 539-3043
From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: ParaNet Press Release
Date: 10 Jan 93 08:58:44 GMT
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <C053Lq.Jnp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (JIM GRAHAM) wrote:
> 
> In article <1hv7vsINNasq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cc203@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Stepien) writes...
> > 
> >>The ParaNet UFO CONTINUUM is heard each Sunday evening at 9:00 
> >>PM Mountain Time, 11:00 PM Eastern, via satellite Galaxy Six, 
> >>Channel 17, Audio Channel 7.5 MHz.
> > 
> >What kind of equipment is needed to receive this?
> > 
> >David
> 
> A home satellite television system, capable of recieving C-band signals is
> necessary.  The audio frequency of a given tv "channel" may be adjusted,
> hence the ability to receive radio.

Isn't there a SW station that broadcasts some UFOnet stuff?

******************************************************************************
Rick Eames                               My Opinions Are My Own (not
Apple's)
athos@apple.com
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Boxer.
******************************************************************************
From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Moderated Group/John Winston
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:56:36 GMT

In article <93005.132748U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> U37460@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>In article <72922@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com says:
>>
>>Dear Folks: Why is it that when I hear the words moderator, censorship
>>I think of Hitler? I agree the Don would be a good moderator if you
>>think you need a moderator.
>>John Winston.
>This will be the one and only time that I respond to your crap.  You must
>understand that the use of Internet is a priviledge and not a right.
>When you start posting under the guise that it is your right to post,
>you are wrong.  If you would like to go out on the streets and preach
>to the world your 3 line messages, fine, that is your right.  But you
>must consider your use of Internet a priviledge and behave accordingly.
>And if those who want a moderated group want one, they may create one.
>You John Winston are under no obligation to partake in the discussions there
>and can freely post here(although it is not a right).
>Ethan Haslett
>smoke... smoke.. flame off

Foolish human. Adn why should John's postings incite you to such
anger? Psychologically, many researchers state that: the state
of emotional attachment can only come about within the
perceptive mechanism of the recipient [you] if the recipient
subconciously finds what had incited him to anger to be true and
yet still unaccepted by that recipient.

I do not say that I agree with all of John's 1-3 liner postings.
John...they waste bandwidth. We all agree that if you have
something new and interesting to report we would like to see
it..otherwise....dont waste the space please.

BUT!!! I fully defend John's First Amendment Right to speak his
piece as he pleases. The Usenet IS NOT a priviledge. The Usenet
is a slightly anarchisticly free forum within which all ideas
can be freely interchanged. And furthermore...I defy anyone here
to conclusively prove that it is indeed John Winston who posts
each and everytime....it can't be done. It is John Winston's
account....but due to the nature of our current computer
technology, there is no way to prove without doubt that no one
else had logged into John's account as John Winston.

You sir, are wasting as much if not more time by starting
flames. If you do not like what anyone posts...use your kill
file. That is what it is for. But instead you choose to rant and
rave like a 5 year old child screaming for his candy bar...I now
will use my kill file on you as you have wasted my time.

Len
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The accountability of government has gone to the point where the very
use of the law is the instrument of illegality.
		-- Ralph Nader @ Harvard Law School, 1/15/92
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,talk.bizarre,alt.religion.kibology
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Sacred Day
Followup-To: alt.fan.john-winston
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:50:07 GMT


Elvis Aaron Presley, b. Jan 8, 1935.
From: smg6@po.CWRU.Edu (Stanley M. Golem)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ozzie or Aussie
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:29:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


If anyone cares, I knew several Australian expatriots in Japan, and
each mentioned at one time or another that the word was spelled
"Aussie" but pronounced "Ozzie."
--
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: i have a question
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 08:26:32 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: alt

Dear Folks: I should have stated that the man was one armed (he had one
arm missing) in my last postings. The planet Venus is a very hot place
and not hospitable to humans in the third dimension, but in the 4th 
dimension it is quite a nice place. Humans can visit there is their
astral form and the space people can change a human's molecturlar structure
so that we can exist there also. It takes about a two week conditioning
period. 
John Winston.
From: Andre.Eichner@f10.n2403.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Andre Eichner)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: BIGFOOTF SPACEMAN?
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:48:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:2403/10 - FidoNet Berli, Berlin 41

Hello Victor!

Tuesday January 05 1993, Victor Volkman writes to All:

 VV> Even worse, you cannot "live" on Jupiter because there is no place to
 VV> "stand".  It is not solid, it is gaseous.  Not to mention gravity and
 VV> radiation are almost 100 times earth normal.

Not at the physical dimension, but in light dimensions!
Earth ist the only one planet in solar system with live on the physical dimension at this time. (I don't know about any other...)

cheers
   Andre

--  
Andre Eichner - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Andre.Eichner@f10.n2403.z2.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: John Winston is not a real person?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:37:21 GMT

In article <Stafford-050193162604@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>To answer my own question:
>
>Portal Communications Company (PORTAL-DOM)
>   20863 Stevens Creek Boulevard
>   Suite 200
>   Cupertino, CA  95014
>
>   Domain Name: PORTAL.COM
>
>   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>      Little, John  (JL115)  jel@CORP.PORTAL.COM
>      (408) 973-9111
>
>   Record last updated on 30-Dec-92.
>
>   Domain servers in listed order:
>
>   NOVA.UNIX.PORTAL.COM         192.83.245.2
>   UUCP-GW-1.PA.DEC.COM         16.1.0.18
>   UUCP-GW-2.PA.DEC.COM         16.1.0.19
>
>YEA, but what do they _do_?


Public Domain Unix system. They use to offer only the Portal_Shell
(whatever, a menu driven interface), but now they offer shell access
as well, along with ftp and telnet access.

When posting from the portal shell, one cannot change the newsgroups
line, redirect followups, or even include the posting one is responding
to, which explains many of the posting from Portal. Wait, there was some
way to tack email to the end of a response, wonder if this method would
also work with NetNewz of the Wierd?

I used to post from there, but it takes an inordinate amount of work to
produce properly edited responses.

Cost is about $20/month, currently. They charge a lot for storage
however, which means that if you get a lot of mail, the cost can go
way up. They also have a large PD/Shareware library and a graphics
library which includes lots of GIFS etc...


Rich

payner@netcom.com
From: golight@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:28 EST
Subject: Re: Pleiadian problems
Nf-ID: #R:1ij5qeINNkkn@zikzak.apana.org.au:-403292066:peg:422800039:000:177
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!golight    Jan 11 01:28:00 1993



The again maybe they haven't gone anywhere at all.  Possibably
their just on holidays for a while....giving humanity a short
break!

Thoughts for Food....>;-}

Regards, Photon

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: aa429@Freenet.carleton.ca (Terry Ford)
Subject: Mailing List
Reply-To: aa429@Freenet.carleton.ca (Terry Ford)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:27:30 GMT

If there is a mailing list out tehre for thsi area, or anything dealing with UFO's, pelase add me to it!
-- 
Terry Ford [aa429@freenet.carleton.ca]|      'Till
Email responses are more than welcome!|      Butter
|      Flies!
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U)
Subject: Re: the Einstein conspiracy (TM)??
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:27:25 GMT

Chris Morken (cmorken@ub.d.umn.edu) wrote:
: In article <C0EnGx.7AM@mach1.wlu.ca> kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U) writes:
: >Can anyone out there provide me with info on the idea I've heard floating
: >around that Einstein actually finished his unified field theory (but, of
: >course, it was covered up by the gov't and is being used in secret UFO
: >experiments or something)??
: 
: No, I'm quite confident that Einstein couldn't have finished his Unified
: Theory, because he was wrong about a few major aspects of the theory, like
: for instance he refused to believe in Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
: Einsteins's attempt at a theory seemed to work on a large-scale, but fails
: when the normally weak force of gravity becomes very large due to something
: such as a black hole.  Without aceptance of the uncertainty principle he
: could never come up with a Unified Theory.
: 
: cmorken
	Another point, I thought he didn't take into account the weak and
strong interactions with his UFT.  I can't see a viable UFT being developed
WITHOUT these important interactions.

-- 
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Kevin Fisher  ><> 	|  "Thank you.  You can't believe everything you
kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca   |  see and hear, can you?" - Hendrix, 'EXP'
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN)
Subject: Re: Moderated Group/John Winston
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:45:31 GMT

>From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
>Subject: Re: Moderated Group/John Winston
>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:02:10 GMT
>In article <93005.132748U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>In article <72922@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com says:

>>>Dear Folks: Why is it that when I hear the words moderator, censorship
>>>I think of Hitler? I agree the Don would be a good moderator if you
>>>think you need a moderator.
>>>John Winston.
>>This will be the one and only time that I respond to your crap.  You must
>>understand that the use of Internet is a priviledge and not a right.
>>When you start posting under the guise that it is your right to post,
>>you are wrong.  If you would like to go out on the streets and preach
>>to the world your 3 line messages, fine, that is your right.  But you
>>must consider your use of Internet a priviledge and behave accordingly.
>>And if those who want a moderated group want one, they may create one.

>Oh man... what a load of horseshit! This is anarchy if ever I saw it.
>A privilege is granted. Who exactly granted anyone the "privilege" of
>posting to Usenet. More to the point, just how the hell is anyone going
>to prevent Mr. Winston from posting? There is no controlling body for
>the Usenet. Anyone can post anything they want and nobody can do
>diddely squat about it.
>
>The most effective weapon against idiots is to ignore them. They
>always go away. If you can't wait that long, just filter his posts.

	For shame!!  Let reality emerge: Johnny W. is psychiatric patient
at a half-way house.  He's under medication and is quite harmless.  Basket
weaving and Usenet are part of his treatment therapy.   On Wednesday 
afternoons when he's allowed out of the home,  he usually takes the bus into 
town and can be found at around 3pm on a favourite street corner sitting on 
the curb whispering into his shirt pocket until it's time to go back.  
	Please keep responding to Johnno's postings -- they really 
make a priceless contribution to the excellent progress he's making in his 
counselling programme and support group discussions.
Later,
Kasey
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If we pay dogfood salespeople more than we   :  Dept of Management
 do teachers, we should not be surprised if   :  Rhodes University
 our dogs eat like kids, and our kids end     :  Grahamstown, 6140
 up reading like dogs."                       :  Rep of South Africa
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From: peter@stycx.hacktic.nl (Author)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Enuf is enuf. Time for a moderated group...
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 08:33:11 PST
Organization: River of Doom. Running through Central Holland

> >Agreed.  I am interested in science. Not bullshit.
> 
>   Then why are you reading "alt.alien.visitors"?
> 
>   Try "sci.space" or "sci.astronomy".
> 
>   You want Alien Visitors, yer gonna GET bullshit!
> 
I think you got it all wrong, look I totally agree that we are confronted 
with a number of people who seem to be profesional manure producers, this 
however does not mean that the whole subject area deserves to be seen in 
that light. I know that it is far easier to stick your head in the sand 
and avoid the confrontation with phenomena which we cannot explain.

Post Electricum Scriptum, why are you reading it?

Greetings -Peter

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Peter@stycx.hacktic.nl (Author)                      Stycx BBS +31 3404 59551
The responsibility for chance...lies within us. We must begin with ourselves, 
teaching ourselves not to close our minds prematurely to the novel, 
the suprising, the seemingly radical.                        -Alvin Toeffler
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ozzie or Aussie
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 09:37:44 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

petert@zikzak.apana.org.au (Peter T.) writes:

> Ozzie, if I'm correct, is a term used by Australians only, ie slang.
 
 Well close. Those of us in New Zealand call you Ozzies and Aussies.
 Ozzie comes from the slang "The land of OZ" (Aus). Aussie comes from
 AUStralia.
 
 Have a good arvo from Kiwiland


 Jon Clarke                                                     Z*NET Pacific
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From: fort@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Bomber)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: PRINTER
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:08:40 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

STAR NX1000 PRINTER 5 FONTS PAPER PARK EXCELLENT CONDITION WHAT OFFERS OR 
TRADE FOR ????? VOICE LINE 275-8053 JOHNNY


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The Draco Unix System [BBS]

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U)
Subject: Re: I am disappointed...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:24:48 GMT

Diane Atkinson (dementia@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote:
: 
: I thought I might find intelligent debate here--you know, presentations
: of facts by both sides,  discussions, perhaps even a little more in
: the formation of explanations in the whys and hows of extraterrestrials.
: Instead all I find is petty bickering, opinion and people bashing,  "Gee,
: look at this story--Weren't these saps dumb?" articles, and a lot of 
: "There's no way anything but my opinion is correct" stuff.
: 
: I had hoped for more....
: j1G
Well, stick around, SOMETIMES some really good stuff DOES show up...you just
have to tailor your kill file right and have a bit of patience..:>

-- 
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Kevin Fisher  ><> 	|  "Thank you.  You can't believe everything you
kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca   |  see and hear, can you?" - Hendrix, 'EXP'
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: NASA antigravity patent+
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:14:32 GMT

In article <cNBwwB10w165w@status.gen.nz>, jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (TheLrdLovsAHngn) writes:
> 
>> If such a patent/device exists, post all relative info here.
>> I, for one, would like to hear more about this.
>  
>  Ditto.  I remember a few patents on ion floaters ie high voltage
>  and ozone etc.. But these are not true anti-gravity devices.
> 
> 
>  Jon Clarke                                                     Z*NET Pacific
>  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>   jonc@status.gen.nz           GEnie: J.Clarke6        Hexagon: HSBC NZM EBD
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>  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>      "Practise safe computing ! Wear a write protect tab!" jc 1988

Interesting.. Ozone field.. Interesting..

Rubber Write Protect Tab??

==
==
Michael Adams alias Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu

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