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From: fox@cs.mcgill.ca (Colin BRADLEY)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Maiden's "First Ten Years"
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:05:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Nov4.153837.18006@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.221510.14856@csus.edu> vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy) writes:
>>Anyone out there have Iron Maiden's "First Ten Years" singles or box
>>set?  If so, could you tell me:
>>	How much do they cost? (cd)
>about $12 new, or $7 used, around here.
>
>>	Are they imports?
>
>Yes.
>
>>	Are they still available?
>
>I am not sure if they are still available new, but they have been showing up
>used lately.
>
>>	Does the box set come with anything extra like a booklet?
>
>Far as I know, you cannot buy it as a boxed set. It is ten discs, and if
>you mail in all the vouchers that come with the discs, you could get a
>special box to put them all in. But the offer was only for England, and I 
>believe it has expired. Damn.
>
>>	What other singles or box sets do they have?
>
>I'll let somebody else work on this one. They have TONS of 12" singles, and
>the like. Great B-sides on most of these. My favorite is "Sheriff of 
>Huttersfield". Sounds like Monty python or something, but with the usual
>Maiden class and sound.  
>
>>Any info would be greatly appreciated!  Thanx in advance.
>>
>>
>>__     __                            __   __
>> |\   /|  __  __    _   __   __  ___  |   |  Serpent swims free in my blood
>> | \ / |  |_  | _  /_\  | \  |_   |   |---|  Dragons sleeping in my veins 
>> |     |  |_  |_| /   \ |_/  |_   |   |   |   Jackyl speeking with tongue
>>/                                          \   Roach egg laying in my brain
>
>Hope this helps. anybody else wishing for a collection of all those B-sides
>on CD? Or do we have to wait until they break up. I would have thought we
>would get it when they changed labels...
>			
>					--Judex--
>


Here in Montreal, there was a box set of about 4 or 5 discs for sale...I 
didn't buy it, cause I didn't have eighty bucks floating around.....

I also heard that they had a bunch of new discs with mostly the old stuff
and also a few new songs - anyone know where I can find these?

Colin
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From: ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: King Diamond
Keywords: King Diamond
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:56:11 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In response to questions about why I (or I guess anyone) likes Conspiracy the 
least (I NEVER said I hated it!), I have a very simple answer; the story line.
The story line on Conspiracy was terrible.  Compared to Them or Abigail, it's 
absolutely attrocious.  I could have warned you not to buy the new KD/MF comp.;
the moment I saw it I said, "nope!"  I have said many times, though I don't 
think that I've posted it, that Conspiracy was his worst album, but with
some of his best songs, (i.e. Creamation, the At the Graves, Wedding Dream, 
and Something Weird), while conversely The Eye was his best album with some
of the worst songs he ever did (i.e. The trial and The curse.  The Trial is 
absolutely pathetic, I think should have been cut.)
	At any rate, all 6 KD albums are better than ANY MF album.  (In case
you're wondering, the five albums, in chronological order, are Fatal Portrait,
Abigail, Them (his masterpiece!), Conspiracy, The Dark Sides (an E.P. length
comp of some of his rarer stuff and some of his most well-known stuff, so
maybe I shouldn't have included it, but oh well), and The Eye.  And of course
this new KD/MF thing.  Fatal Portrait should be your next buy, IMO.  King 
Diamond is the only group that I own all the full length L.P.'s on CD.  (I 
really do not have enough of a fan mentalit to find ever last single recording
ever made in any country just because my "favorite" band did it.  I really 
don't need the Japan release, the U.K. release, the Germany release, and the 
U.S. release of a single that I have on an album.)

Hope this helps.  I notice that I'm rambling, so I'll shut up now.

-James
University of Pennsylvania
ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

"Whenever the dark is near
 I shall return from the grave
 To haunt you!
 God-forsaken whore!"
		-King Diamond, "Creamation"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pan2765@seas.gwu.edu (Crazyman Pan)
Subject: Re: Headbangers
Organization: I have none...
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:30:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.134426.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au> eda927lsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>This heavy metal shit sucks.  Why don't you all get decent haircuts and
>become a normal part of society.

Hey you stupid fuck.  What exactly IS a "decent" haircut?  And what does it
mean to be a "normal part of society"?  I happen to have a high & tight buzz
job (just because I like it), I wear clothes that the average person wears
(sometimes, perhaps, bordering on preppy), and I'm studying for my BS in 
Mechanical Engineering -- and I like to listen to Metallica and WASP (among
others).  So watch out who you're trying to insult -- and stay the fuck out
of this newsgroup if you don't have anything worthwhile to say.

					-- Crazyman Pan

(I'd rather be playing guitar...)
"The circus comes to town, YOU play the lead clown..."
					- MetallicA, MoP, LM
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:35:41 EST
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Decline of Western Civilization (was Re: Metal Church)
 <1992Nov10.143747.19685@sbctri.sbc.com>
 <92315.14201932GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <92316.115023TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>

>In article <92315.14201932GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>,
><32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> says:
>>
>>I could be wrong but isn't this the movie where Dave Mustaine
>>the intellectual that he is said something to the extent of:
>>
>>"Death and Beer...what else is there"

I forgot to ask:  What is wrong with this philosophy anyways?
If I had enough money to be drunk for the rest of my life, I'd do it too.
But the point is Dave Mustaine never said this in the movie.

He has said "Without Death, Life would be meaningless", which is true if you
think about it. But the line about the beer, he wouldn't be dumb enough to say
something like that even if he thought it, because he's not an idiot.
Although Mustaine doesn't really give a shit what people think, so he probably
_would_ say it...

-Sime

"Hey there!  It's....YOU!    "Homer, why can't you           Let's
 How about that...            Show any interest?"
 Local sports team!"         "Because I don't care..."       Go

        -Mr. Burns            -Marge and Homer               Pens  ! ! !
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope)
Subject: Re: Headbangers
Reply-To: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:33:05 GMT

In article <Nov05.091204.33117@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.134426.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au> eda927lsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>>This heavy metal shit sucks.  Why don't you all get decent haircuts and
>>become a normal part of society.
>
>Sounds like another frusturated pop geek who needs to get laid...
>
>Sam
>
>
>-- 
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>|  Sam Patton -=>  pattons@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu |                     |
>|                  spatton@lamar.colostate.edu        |     Emotion 13      |
>|_____________________________________________________|_____________________|

Sounds more like someone who has been fucking too many kangaroos down under.
Get a life you fucking piece of shit!!

If you are a member of normal society, why should we be a pathetic no life son
of a bitch, who has nothing better to do than listen to McDonna and to jerk his 
little prick off while he listens.

Fuck you and your opinions!!

-Scope
From: v003nnc3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MR. BUNGLE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Headbangers
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov5.134426.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au>, eda927lsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes...
>This heavy metal shit sucks.  Why don't you all get decent haircuts and
>become a normal part of society.

Nice, post asshole.  If you don't like it type "u" now and get the fuck of the
group.  I beleive I speak for all in saying nobody wants these posts.  If your
looking for attention, look somewhere else.

Mr. Bungle
From: andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Headbangers
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:48:37 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Nov9.043959.6203@menudo.uh.edu> cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>Man, I really hope this dumb fuck keeps posting his  DEATH TO METAL horseshit.
>The flames are some of the funniest god damn things I've read in quite a while
>(esp. Judex's and Tori's).  
>
>Burn baby, burn!  :)
>
>-Scope
>(Will Tervay)

Nearly as good as the flame war between Suaron and the dork that signed 
himself 'Peace'. Still, it is sad when they let 13 year olds onto the net. 

-- 
|      Andy Cannon       | Sweater, n:                                   |     
| Misplaced Yorkshireman |            A garment worn by a child when its |     
|   Spider Systems Ltd   | mother feels chilly.                          |     
|  andrewc@spider.co.uk  |                     ......And Still the Moon  |    
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: Jeff.Glasson@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeff Glasson)
Subject: Re: Soundgarden's Jesus Christ Pose
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:53:19 GMT

I heard once that it is a song about posers and poser bands...any thoughts??

Jeff
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.thrash
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Columbia Student Sees Abyss, Lashes Out In Pure Fear
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:54:04 PST

In article <1992Nov1.082950.2576@news.columbia.edu>, ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos) writes:
> I'm sorry, but I've had fucking enough of Muffa-fucking-vore and his
> bullshit about "sellouts" (real original argument, thanks for bringing
> something new to the boards, asshole).  Music is, in general, an industry.
> Sales _are_ important.  Now, I am not going to lie - I was disappointed
> by "Metallica".  It doesn't equal AJFA by any stretch.  But, IMmostHO, it's
> a damn fine album.  Judge the work for itself, not your expectations of the

	Okay, it's shit...

> authors.  (BTW, completely aside, whaddya think about Megadeth's new album?)
> It's real easy for listeners to say, "Oh, they've got a lot of sales and co-
> incidentally simpler sales.  SELLOUTS SELLOUTS SELLOUT!"  Writing speed metal
> and thrash, again IMHO, is very difficult, and is anti-establishment anit-
> commercialism music the be-all-end-all of integrity?  My judgment, for what
> it's worth (very little, I think) is that, sure, they went for the brass-gold
> ring, but "Metallica" is a very good album, one of the best of 1991, and if

	Sad year for music, then...

> I could just suspend my expectations of Metallica for a while, I'd enjoy the
> album a lot more.  Now my advice to you is to get over this mock anger about
> an integrity-packed band "selling out" and get on with your life.  If you
> like the album, good.  If you don't, sell your CD and buy something like
> Defecation, chock full of integrity (I'm not mocking Defectation, mind you,
> but it seems this illiterate fool has gotten innaccessible, poorly produced 
> music confused with integrity).  Let the flames begin, I don't care anymore.
> Those who can judge, show me your credentials before you say word one.

	Illiterate?  Blahahaha...dearest fool, you are all wrong...why don't
you re-read and try to figure it out again, pathetic nonspeaker...mock anger
isn't my aim, but truth, because in this case it is valuable to realize what is
going on, as it poses a danger to solid metal...haven't heard Defecation, but I
have heard quite a bit of poorly-produced crap made to make a buck, although in
a different market...given the number of napalm death spinoffs and clones, I
wouldn't be inclined toward Defecation unless I had a good source praising
it...but I doubt you would understand that.

> 
>   OOOOO  OO  OOOO   OOOO     sinn santos, computer music, columbia university.
>  /OO/// /OO /OO//O /OO//O     "They can take the record, and they can SHOVE
>  //  OO /OO /OO /O /OO /O     IT RIGHT DOWN THEIR THROATS!"   "Money talks,
>   OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"

	Obviously expectations for this newsgroup are miles too high...
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pck8t@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Paul Christopher Kirkitelos)
Subject: Re: Megadeth concert
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:30:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.211911.10927@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.220220.8307@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji) writes:
>>Now for Megadeth:
>>
>>Wake up dead
>>The conjuring
>>Peace sells
>>In my darkest hour
>>Holy wars
>>Hanger 18
>>Lucretia
>>Tornado of souls
>>Skin 'o my teeth
>>Symphony of destruction
>>Foreclosure of a dream
>>Countdown to extinction
>>Ashes in your mouth
>>Sweating bullets (which Dave said would be their next single)
>>
>>...and of course, they ended with Anarchy.  It was a great show,
>
>Only 15 songs?!?  What happened to Hook in Mouth?
>
>--Will

I was there, and I must say it was a wierd show.  I was pretty close
to the stage, so I could see Dave very clearly.  He looked
good as far as being in shape, sharp, etc.  The sound quality was   
incredible - much better than the sound on the first 3 albums.  
The wierd thing was that the whole performance seemed very mechanical, like
you were watching it on tape or something.  Dave did very little 
talking between songs, and he didn't seem like he tried to get the
crowd involved much.  Consequently, even though the show was great, it
didn't seem to have that 'intensity' that has always been present at
the very best shows I've ever seen.

I did manage to catch one of Nick Menza's drumsticks after they finished
with Anarchy, though.  That was pretty cool.

Paul K

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Addicted To Nancy Reagan's Vaginal Skin
Keywords: Iron Maiden and Metallica
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:21:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.223815.1527@ics.com> jmalconi@ics.com (John Malconian) writes:
>I read recently in an article while in London on buisness that Bruce Dickenson, he of Maiden lore, is to replace Hetfield, the guru of thrash and bash, on the rest of the self-titled Metallica tour.  Astonished at what my synapses were registering I picked another Metal rag.  This one reporting the EXACT same message.  Now, I don't know what to do?  Is this good?  I would say yes, Flight of Icarus and Master of Puppets being melted as one is enough to make me die.  So tell me what the story is. The suspen






s
>e is killing me and my fellow thrashers.

What happened to Hetfield that would require a stand-in vocalist? Were they
using John Marshall as replacement rhythm / harmony guitarist since the
accident this summer? I'm still not really sure what damage Hetfield suffered
when the pyros exploded on him.

philip

Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
From: farrell@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Perot is big PanterA fan
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:40:23 EST

In message-ID: <140510@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, k-man@diego.llnl.gov (Kevin Anderson) writes:
>
> I know this for a fact, Ross Perot is a big PanterA fan.
> He is from Texas, you know, and has hung out with Darrell,
> Phil, and Rob Halford.
>
>In fact, Ross is writing some lyrics for the next LP.

Remember when Perot enter the presidential race the first time and there 
was a big controversy over how he weaseled out of his Navy obligations?
He claimed (among other things) that he was shocked by the 
"ungodly" behavior and language used by the sailors.

So now he's writing lyrics for Pantera ;-) , whose most recent album 
includes such tunes as "Fucking Hostile" and lyrics "been shit on, pissed 
on, fucked with..." etc.   I'm glad to hear that heavy metal is helping
ol' Ross overcome his hangups!!!
:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

--
Margie, not speaking for the OSU    | "If you have one foot in yesterday
physics dept (I should get back to  |  and one foot in tomorrow, then you're
data analysis and stop reading news)|  pissing all over today." - Dave Mustaine
FARRELL@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu   |
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett)
Subject: Re: Headbangers
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:56:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.134426.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au> eda927lsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>This heavy metal shit sucks.  Why don't you all get decent haircuts and
>become a normal part of society.

I've seen better flame bait...

-Chuck

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden Question
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:26:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.011914.3232@nntp.uoregon.edu> tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny) writes:
>
>The Lovecraft quote is:
>	That is not dead which can eternal lie,
>	But with strange aeons death may die.
>I think it's slightly misquoted on the album cover---there may be an "even"
>in the second line.
>
>HPL used the couplet several times---it is the work of the fictional Abdul
>Alhazred, the author of the _Necronomicon_, though I don't think it's
>actually from the book.
>
>To forestall the inevitable responses: I am taking Lovecraft's word (from a
>letter to, I think, Robert E. Howard) that Alhazred is a purely fictional
>character, and that his name is derived from Hazard (Lovecraft's mother's
>maiden name).  Your mileage may vary.
>
>	NT

Since the Necronomicon is fictitious, the quote could esily be from it.
The Avon paperback is basically a "cash-in" attempt, and has nothing
to do with Lovecraft.

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: savatage@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
Subject: King Diamond
Summary: Why don't you like Conspiracy?
Keywords: King Diamond
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:53:26 GMT

	I have been following the recent threads about King Diamond
	and Mercyful Fate, and I now have a couple of questions.

	First of all, I never wanted to get/listen to anything by 
	King Diamond after hearing the Mercyful Fate CD, "Don't
	Break the Oath" back in '87. 

	But recently all this talk about King Diamond has sparked
	some interest. So, when I saw a post on the net by a guy
	selling some of the King Diamond CDs, I replied and bought:

	"Them" and "Conspiracy" 

	I have listened to both about 20 or so times now, and I
	definetly like Conspiracy the best. 
	
	Also, after hearing these so many times now, I decided to
	get the new KD/MF cd: "A Dangerous Meeting".

	All I can say is that I am very disappointed. :-(

	Is this the BEST stuff they could come up with with all
	those albums to choose from?

	Now, I saw where most of you were all in agreement that you
	guys thought that Conspiracy was he worst one. Why?

	What is it about Conspiracy that you don't like?

	I noticed that he doesn't sing REAL high near as much as
	the other stuff? Is that why you guys don't like this one
	as much? 

	The guitars on both Them and Conspiracy KICK MAJOR ASS! I LOVE it!
	Are the guitar arrangements better on other KD cds? If so,
	what ones do you recommend? (Keep in mind that I LIKE Conspiracy,
	not hate it).

	Also, some of the songs on "A Dangerous Meeting" I didn't like...

	A Corpse Without A Soul  <-- He sings so high on this one, that
					it makes my hair stand on end. :-)
	Evil
	Curse of the Pharohs

	So, seeing as how these are all Mercyful Fate songs, you can see
	that I tend to like the King Diamond The Band stuff much more than
	the MF stuff...

		I'm not trying to start any flame wars or anything, I am
	just curious what others think...

			-- Brent

	P.S. My brother just picked up Abigal (for $4.50) at a local Pawn
	Shop, so I will give it a listen when I see him next.

	savatage@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden Question
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:22:51 GMT

In article <BxHBC9.1M4@acsu.buffalo.edu> v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (SPAM IS A STATE OF MIND) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.185314.11671@bsu-ucs>, 00bjgood@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes...
>
>>Ah ha, it was one of the Evil Dead movies (I think 2). In it this history
>>professor reads the book out loud and some beast is raised from the dead. It
>>destroys a trailor park, a church, etc. At the end, I believe the priest kills
>>it by interpreting the glass paintings in the church. Now that I think about
>>it, it wasnt THAT bad of a movie, I liked the way he figured it out. 
>>
>   Sounds like Clive Barker's Rawhead Rex.The creature and the trailor park
>scene is definitely there and besides there are no priests,chuches or
>trailor parks in Evil Dead. Only thing in E.D. is the shack in the woods.
>                                                               Mandrake

Yeah, that is what I thought too. Definately NOT an Evil Dead movie.
Funny though, I don't remeber the Necronomicon being in "Rawhead Rex".
And although it is based on a Barker story, he had little to do with this
film and hates it! Says this one and "Transmutations" were the reasons he
started directing in the first place!

					--Judex--
From: davel@coombs.anu.edu.au (Dave LaMaitre)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: GnR To Tour Oz in January
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:48:28 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2


	Just heard for sure on the radio that GnR are definately coming to Australia in January and they are only playing two outdoor shows. One will be held in Sydney and the other in Melbourne. As yet I have not heard the venues for wither of these dates.

	Tickets go on sale soon (not really sure but I think it will be towards the end of this month). I will let you all know when I find out the venues etc etc.

	It's about bloody time they came down here!! :)


Dave
--
   Dave LaMaitre		||
 davel@coombs.anu.edu.au	||	"What's so civil about war anyway?"
 user0030@student.anu.edu.au	||			-Guns'N'Roses
 dlamaitr@nyx.cs.du.edu 	||		aka. BigDave on irc :-)