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From: TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney)
Subject: Re: Bar-B-Q Etiquette(was Re: Bar etiquette: Further...)
Organization: Home of the @&#^%$* Crimson Tide
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:21:44 GMT

In article <8456@news.duke.edu>
dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD) writes:
 
>In article <1993Jan8.203959.4544@usl.edu> rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.) writes:
>
>>Ain't it funny how food changes from place to place (even within
>>a single state) yet keeps the same name?
>
>You can imagine my suprise when I moved down to the Carolinas and asked
>where there were some decent barbecue resturants.  I quickly learned that
>in the central and eastern Carolinas, barbecue is not pork that has been
>grilled with gallons of spicy, sweet red sauce.  No, down here when you
>order "barbecue" it's pork that's been slow roasted until it falls off
>the bone, shredded and mixed with a load of spices and vinegar.  That and
>it's topped off with pitchers of sweet tea.  You try telling them that
>it's not barbecue, and you may not live to walk out the door.  Especially
>down around Wilmington, NC.
>
An e-mail acquaintance of mine lives in Durham but was born and raised
here in Tuscaloosa. When she returned here for Christmas, she called me
up and insisted we have dinner at Dreamland Barbecue, home of pork ribs
grilled in Dr. Blakely's aforementioned spicy, sweet red sauce; white
bread; and canned beer. (When visiting Dreamland, DO NOT tease the
waitresses by requesting "a delightful salad." They won't laugh and
may kill you.) Anyway, my friend had been waiting all year to
get back to Alabama and "real" barbecue instead of that North Carolina
vinegar stuff. But my girlfriend, also from Durham, declined to visit
Dreamland during her recent trip to Alabammy. She's used to the vinegar
stuff...AND LIKES IT. I'm still working on her...
 
Tracey
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From: an4788@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Roommate at Usenix/San Diego
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:17:49 GMT

I got a room to share at the hotel's conference.  Non-smoker please!
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From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:50:29 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: soc.motss

In article <1993Jan5.225714.22900@gordian.com>, mike@gordian.com (Michael
A. Thomas) wrote:

> What a maroon. The only reason that LA moved theirs is
> so that SF might reciprocate. Talk about giving an inch
> and taking a mile. Somebody needs to educate this moron
> that the gay world does *not* revolve around SF, much
> as he might think it ought to.

Nonsense!  We are at the epicenter of the known Universe!
All things revolve around San Francisco!  Why, there isn't
a day that goes by I am not made dizzy by the swirling 
maelstrom of activity.  Perferdidious in the extreme to
claim otherwise!  

*X*
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From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: Re: Arne Adolphson, Mormon At Large
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:45:39 GMT

In article <C0rCC6.s7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> albrigh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (thomas g albright) writes:
>In article <1iv7r9INN6io@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan12.123541.5095@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> 
>>gsmith@lauren.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith) writes:
>>> In article <1ishnaINNckn@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu
>>> (adolphson) writes:
>>>
>>> >*Mormon* at large?  Heavens.
>>>
>>> "Moron" did not seem very apt, so I changed it.
>>
>>I think I'd rather be called a "moron" than a "Mormon",
>>but I appreciate the sentiment.  I think.
>
>
>I'd rather that a Mormon thought me a moron than a moron thought me a Mormon
>(to paraphrase a sig I've seen).

Tovah!  Tom needs help with yer .sig!
-- 

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jarvis@psych.toronto.edu  University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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From: mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon)
Subject: Re: Therbligs (zw{i,a}cky matters)
Summary:  origin
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:23:36 GMT

In article <lkmhbgINN25m@news.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:

>           The father, Mr. Gilbreth, was one of the first so-called
>efficiency experts, so it's not surprising that a technical term was
>named for him.

He named it, after himself.  Reversing it was about as close as he ever
came to modesty.  As I heard the tale, he avoided reversing the final
-th under some delusion that Ht was "unpronounceable" rather than
from any understanding that th spelled a phoneme.
-- 
Michael L. Siemon	"We honour founders of these starving cities
mls@panix.com		 Whose honour is the image of our sorrow ...
			 They built by rivers and at night the water
			 Running past the windows comforted their sorrow."
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From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: Geography (was Capitalization, still dubious MOTSS content)
Organization: (getting there)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:45:11 GMT


Charlie Fulton <charlie@isis.mit.edu >writes:
  >|>>New York City, of course.  New York State is divided into three
  >|>>sections: "The City", "Lon Gisland" and "Upstate".
and I said:
 >|>Yeah.  "Upstate" goes about as far up as Albany's northern suburbs.
 >|>There are people who have heard of Buffalo and Rochester, which
 >|>really aren't much further north than that.  It was very hard to get
 >|>used to the idea that where I lived wasn't "Upstate," which ended a
 >|>good two hundred miles south of where I lived.

carlson@ab24.larc.nasa.gov (Ann Carlson) writes:
 >Brent forgot the fourth part of New York.  There's The City, Lon-Guyland,
 >Upstate *and* The North Country.  Mara and I are from The North Country.
 >Look on a map, it's just a little south-west of Montreal.

No, that's not (conceptually) part of New York.  That's
(conceptually) part of Canada.  Or maybe Greenland.

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.

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From: xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory)
Subject: Re: Different Strokes (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:50:16 GMT

In article <biff@kaa.gr.osf.org> emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus) writes:
>richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:
>>If you have the neighbor's phone number, I would suggest calling him/her
>>at all hours.  Simply say, "Your dog is barking" and hang up.  After 
>>he/she has been awakened several times, they'll likely do something
>>about it.
>
>If the dog doesn't awaken this neighbour, why would a phone call?
>
Well, speaking anecdotally, this worked for us when I was a child. My
father had spoken several times to a neighbour about his barking
dog and the neighbour kept denying his dog barked at night. So
whenever the dog woke my father, he would call the neighbour, say
"your dog is barking" and hang up. Turns out the dog was kept in
the garage at night, closest to our house, and would bark and bark
to get out, but the family slept at the far end of the house and
couldn't hear it. I don't know what they ended up doing, probably
keepng the dog in the basement, but the squirrelly suggestion above
did in fact work (very well).

Kateg


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From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Women's scents (was Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:02:17 GMT
Organization: sgi
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
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Keywords: sexy smells

In article <1ii75mINNres@umbc8.umbc.edu>, ac999265@umbc3.umbc.edu (ac999265) writes:

|> I wear Opium, and buy Lauren for my other.

I smoke opium and my best friend is Loren....


I think this is called "coincidence" ;-)


Jeff
-FWA
From: doug@aptzero.lonestar.org (Doug Gault)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: The Crying Game (AGAIN..) NO SPOILERS.
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:27:57 GMT
Organization: Doug Gault .. Home UseNet Node.

Well my SO and I finally wend and saw _The Crying Game_ last night.. Not
knowing anything about the movie, I was hesitant to see it.. BUT... It
was VERY GOOD.. Don't let the first 20 minutes fool you... It is just a 
set up to the rest of the EXCITEMENT!

JUST take this as another STRONG recomendation!

Doug

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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Private antidiscrimination policies in CO (was Re: Attention...)
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:32:09 GMT


In article <1i05s9INNhap@hp-col.col.hp.com>, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
|> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
|> > >Well, I've never personally seen it in action, but I'll take 
|> > >your word for it.  
|> > 
|> > What are you saying?  That you've never seen homophobia?
|> 
|> I've never seen anything in action that I would call a 'phobia' 
|> agaisnt homosexuals.  If you mean have I never seen people who 
|> dislike homosexuality, yes, I have.  I've also seen homosexuals
|> who are even more expressly anti-christian than the people I know 
|> who don't like homosexuality.  From what I've seen in the world, 
|> and in this forum, there are more homosexuals that are christian-phobic 
|> than there are straights who are homo-phobic (or who dislike homosexuality, 
|> or however you want to put it.).    

When I get upset about exact, quotable statements
from a church official about how death is the only 
appropriate state for gay people, I'm xtian-phobic?  

|> A lot of the talk by 
|> people in this group about how so many people hate them, want to 
|> take away their rights, would kill them if they could get away
|> with it, etc; rings familiar when I think back to what the JWS say. 
|> Since I've never seen anything *closely* resembling that level 
|> of hatred, I doubt it is as extensive as some here seem to think. 

This does it.  When you can tell me that you personally
know Jehovah's Witnesses who have had their head bashed
in by people yelling derogatory names or had their faces slashed
or been chased by a crowd of people with baseball bats
and tire irons, then you can compare levels of paranoia.

What *you* notice or don't notice does not seem to
correlate very well to reality.  You don't think discrimination
exists, you don't think gays and lesbians are murdered, you
think that gay people are too hard on the xtians who preach
that gay people are an abomination.

I say:  Fuck You.  You disgrace the name of straight people
who actually care about what happens to people who are different
from them and who take the time to listen and learn and understand.


-- 
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Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Arne Adolphson, Moron At Large
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 19:17:05 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <73159@cup.portal.com> <1ikbj2INNg7m@spim.mti.sgi.com>

Jeff Dauber writes:
>Physician, Heal thyself. 

Been looking into a mirror as you post, Jeff?

-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Colorado Replies
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:01:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.220110.10829@cs.brown.edu>, atropos@netlab.cis.brown.edu (David O'Donnell) writes:
> 	I'm sure you can imagine my outrage at having those 'people' completely
> misconstrue my letter. In reply, I wrote the following text :

> What sort of message of hope
> does this vile amendment send to youth who may be unsure of their
> sexuality, or who are not heterosexual and have to face life
> surrounded by bigots who taunt them, threaten them and even assault
> them? 

they hope that their children will be obedient slaves to their
rigid dogma, and *choose* to not be homosexual.
Some of them believe that this is possible because they themselves have made
this choice, and live out their days bitterly accepting the veil of
taers that their misery offers as comfort, awaiting the redemption they
hope will wash away the guilt and frustration they have never been free
from.

They are mistaken.

> Each year thousands of young people kill themselves because they
> are told that being gay is a sin-people with political agendas like
> that of you and your organization.

We are in an era where the Yahweh current is replaying scripts and 
scenarios from the midle ages. You know, the time of the plague, the time
of the inquisitorial persecution of heretics, the time of the crusades.

During that grand effort to wrest the *holy land* from its rightful owners,
Crusaders would slay moslem infants knowing that it was better the 
child died on the point of a christian sword than live a heathen life.
These new-crusaders won't say such things in public, but I have little doubt
that within their small minds they secretly believe we are better off dead.

I spit on these crapulous creeds.

I commend you for  answering them, but don't hold your breath waiting
for these bozos to change because you read them the riot


LUX ./. owen
--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen, owen@autodesk.com
[ EU-PHORIA: A STATE OF WELL BEING ]
Euphoria is my natural state, I do what I enjoy and an abundance 
of all good fortune comes to me for it.
From: anon.106@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Please, Guys, What do those Codes Mean!!!
Date: 5 Jan 1993 07:30:30 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
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O.K. so I am new to this.  I've read a whole lot of posts about
the codes.  I figured out there are "bears" and "smurfs".  But
no one has given a KEY to all those cap and lc letters with -'s 
and +'s.  Given the exchanges about e+ and e++, I assume this has
something to do with endowments, but I can't tell where the scale
begins, at 6", 8" or 10"?  And what about cut/uncut which is what
I am interested in, or shaved balls?

If someone can't post or e-mail me a key to the meaning of these
things, can you at least tell me where to find out?


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From: spencer@tan.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: Wil Wheaton at MacWorld!!!!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:08:36 GMT

In article <76203@apple.apple.COM>, mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>And *I* - who have a Wesley Crusher postcard pinned to the
>wall of my cube - *cannot* *go*.  No.  *I* am stuck here,
>where I have to set up fifty some odd macs and four big 
>old IBMs sose as Very Important Developers will be happy,
>and sose as there will be a Macworld *next* year - where
>I can probably *again* miss the beefcake...

Am I the only one in the newsgroup who DOESN'T find Wil Wheaton
attractive, or is everyone else in that category just ignoring this
thread?  (Maybe it's the hairdo they give him for TNG.  He ever been in
anything else?)

-----
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Horror?  Steckle, it's ignorance we fear.  Since when did truth and
knowledge become a horror?  [_Flatliners_]
From: thrift@ra.csc.ti.com (Phil Thrift)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Cl*yt*n - who are you?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:17:10 GMT
Organization: TI Central Research Laboratories, Dallas

jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) writes:
> In article <13833@optilink.COM> walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
> >From article <C0EG52.FIo@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, 
> >by ouz085@cck.coventry.ac.uk (J Murdock):
> >> Given the regularity with which the unpleasant chappy posts, 
> >> surely he should be in the picture archive?
> >I just can't help but ponder:
> >Just what would you do while looking at his picture?  :-)
>
> I'd buy a dart board just for the occasion.  It wouldn't be the slightest
> bit productive, but it's cheap entertainment.


Maybe that's just what he needs. A big prick.
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: BAR Manners in Boston....
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:07:22 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <C0Dy39.647@cs.vu.nl>, fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
> 
> Of course, they will serve liquor in glasses. I mean, you try drinking
> gin 'n tonic from the bottle.

Easy. Swig of gin, swig of tonic, then hold the lime wedge over your
mouth and squeeze. Repeat until done.
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Credit Styles
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 19:53:26 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan5.203520.22036@thinkage.on.ca> <1993Jan7.203305.6024@netcom.com>
  <1993Jan7.221837.14746@macc.wisc.edu>

Jess Anderson writes:
>stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants) writes:
>>...waiting for the stroke and bore puns.....
>
>No such readily available, but at least it gives me an
>opportunity to mention the principle of the steam governor:
>the more energy you apply to the shaft, the faster the
>governor's balls rotate.

But I don't **WANT** Pete Wilson to have any such fun!

[Ursine Howl Of Despair....]

 
() In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must
() first create the universe.
()      -- Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: zitsky+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark Ryan Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay men personals...
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:51:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0G9xo.8E4.2
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <1993Jan6.031637.5579@athena.mit.edu>, sun@athena.mit.edu (Tigua Alan Naghel Jackson) writes:
|> I recently found myself attracted to a white guy, which isn't unusual
|> since I don't limit myself to any race.  But being a man of color, black
|> with a little French and Native American, I'm constantly forced to 
|> consider the implications of dating someone white.  I should say, it's more
|> that being a black American I am forced to consider the implications
|> of dating a white.  Particularly, the prime question is: is he
|> dating me because I'm black?
|> 
|> This is all secondary, though, to the reason why I'm posting in the first place
|> which is for white men to consider: When placing an ad why say, 'GWM seeks same,
|> no fats no fems' when what you mean to say is, 'GWM seeks <whatever> no colored, 
|> no fats, no fems...'?
|> 
|> Of course, my version is 'racist.'  But I'm the only one saying that...


My Asian boyfriend and I have been together for 1 1/2 years now.
He knows I have a preference for Asian men, or men with black hair, or
men with darker skin.  Honestly, I am rarely attracted by European men, it
takes someone exceptional to get my attention.

For me, it's a preference.  I don't date my boyfriend just because he's
Asian.  Yes, I'm a rice queen, but a nice one.  I met Bill in a bar.  
We're both shy.  I was there alone and was looking for someone to dance
with and saw him standing against the wall.  He looked lonely too, so I
took a chance and asked him to dance.  We were very close from that
night on.  What happened was that we were both looking for that special
someone.

Maybe white people ask for "same".  I've never thought that racist, but
I suppose it could be.  I would think that they just are turned on by
people of the same color?  For me, I find pale skin unattractive, and
don't care for tans much.

Bill's friend who is also Asian, and very promiscuous, once paid me a great
compliment.  He said I was the only rice queen he knew who didn't try
to hit on him, and said that he admired our relationship.

So, I suppose some people are racist, and some are just expressing
a preference.

--Mark
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: "Rainbow" cartoon in the latest New Yorker
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:25:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan6.042518.8514
Organization: insert anything here


	Does anyone have any comments on the cartoon in the New Yorker
that shows covers of books which are obviously semi-take offs on the
family-oriented material that came to a head with "Heather has two
mommies"?

	I could take it one of two ways: this was an attempt to
tell people "give it a rest!" or that this was an attempt to 
'de-PC' the whole thing "gee if we have to SHOW GBLO*-ers as
family participants then why not XXX?"

	Anyway --- there's IMHO obvious motss interest and unlike
a lot of the New Yorker - this cartoon isn't a scratch and sniff...

BBC
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Maria Montez vs Burl Ives, or Lighten Up a Little, Folks
Date: 5 Jan 1993 12:06:44 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <72896@cup.portal.com> 
Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) types:

> A more accurate way to frame my opinion is that anything Arne
> says has a roughly 95% chance of being a whine.

You should stop bandying about such imprecise figures,
George.  There's a 93.874% chance that anything I might
say is a "whine".

> Usually, a bitchy whine at that.

76.896% of my whines are bitchy.

Arne

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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: Please, Guys, What do those Codes Mean!!!
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:32:39 GMT

John Dorrance (thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote:
: 2.17" in circumference? This has to be wrong.

I dropped Jim (jrd@frame.com) a note on this.  I think in e-mail we concluded
that it should probably be 3.17" rather than 2.17".

This meshes with my "statistics" and the piece of paper I was rolling
into different sizes.

: John, hoping it's correct (Me? I'm an e EEEEK!!!)

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