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From: dsdd@okcforum (Roy Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: StyleWriter for GS
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:19:55 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
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David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz wrote:
: In article <1992Oct3.232203.5618@gw.wmich.edu> x91shafer1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
: > I'm think about a StyleWriter for my IIgs.  Does anyone have one or know how
: > well it works with a gs?  How fast is it?  What is the output for both text and
: > graphics?
: 
: You should be able to use the StyleWriter with any IIgs desktop
: program that provides a 'Print' menu item.  You'll need the
: StyleWriter driver, which is included with System 6.0.  Text is
: printed using IIgs fonts, as with an ImageWriter.
: The "best" quality produces the best output if you have a font five
: times larger than the size used in your document (e.g. if you used
: Times 12, you'll get best quality if you have a copy of Times 60 on
: your system disk).
: Westcode's "Pointless" program will help considerably to improve the
: quality of the text output.
: 
: You CANNOT output straight ASCII text to a StyleWriter, so no text
: based 8-bit software (in particular AppleWorks) will work with the
: StyleWriter.  I doubt that any 8-bit graphics based software will
: support the StyleWriter.
: -- 
: David Empson
: 
: Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
: Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand

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No, you are absolutely wrong there, some 8-bit programs DO support the
StyleWriter printer, ProTERM will work, if you set it up right, and so will all
other programs that dump data to the printer. I don't use a StyleWriter, but I
do the same thing with my Laser..

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AppleTalk vs. Direct Connect Printer
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:26:27 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1atu32INN8uf@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
> schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:
> 
> >I assume that the printer is the bottleneck and that both methods
> >are about even. Is this wrong?
> 
> I would not be surprised if the serial port slows you down a lot when
> you're printing graphics in Best quality mode.
> 
> Has anybody got some real data on this? I know that with my Panasonic KX-1124i
> I got quite an improvement over the serial port when I used a parallel
> interface card.

Sorry, no real data, but some observational data: my ImageWriter is
connected directly, and when printing graphics, it never seems to
pause, so I don't think the serial port would be holding it up much.

(I have a ZIP GS, which will help with generating the graphics, but
not much with transmission speed).
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From: devernay@taquilee.inria.fr (Frederic Devernay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: cannot reset/reboot with TWGS. need HELP!
Keywords: transwarp, help
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:51:20 GMT
Reply-To: ${USER}@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: Inria Sophia Antipolis

I bought a used 7MHz TWGS, version 1.5, a few weeks ago, and yesterday
while I was using my beloved computer, the screen flashed, and then it
didn't want to reset/reboot/self-test anymore! What happens is that
when I try to reset the computer, the programs continues, but in text
mode.
The TWGS still works great, and the self test included in the control
panel says everything is OK. When I replace the TWGS with the original
CPU, everything is OK, so the problem comes for sure from the TWGS.

Has anyone ever encountered this problem, or does anyone know how to
fix it? please HELP me :-)
thanks

Frederic -------------------------------------------------------------
devernay@sophia.inria.fr--------------------------------Fredric on IRC
From: chandran@comp.lancs.ac.uk (M. Ramchandran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Looking for Mac s/w shareware/public archive
Keywords: Non-standard
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:01:21 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

I am looking for public domain Mac software for C++, Ada, CASE tools.
Any help.

Chandran
School of Computing
Liverpool John Moores Univ.
Liverpool
Email: istmchandran@vax.livpol.uk.ac
From: jazz@pro-phx.cts.com (James Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Self-analysis on IIGS
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:32:27 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-phx] -- Glendale, Az

I don't know if this information is to late,  But the Keys for a self test
are (control, option, apple then reset.) hold then all down then let the
up on the reset first then all the others this will check the mother board
only not the extended memory. you would probably need a test disk.  If you
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Questions!
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:28:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.719036897

Oh, no... here we go again! :)

There are several of them.  Look for modZap, soniqTracker, NoiseTracker,
SoundSmith as good music players.  GIF viewers include GIV3200 v.20 (the
one I use).

- Eric S.

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From: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: //gs Recipe Program needed
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:01:58 GMT
Reply-To: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Organization: Lightning Systems, Inc.

Have a friend that is looking for a 'Recipe' program that'll run on an
Apple //gs.  Doesn't have to be //gs specific though.

Can anyone give me any recommendations, and if the program is freeware or
shareware, where I can find it?

Thanks,
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From: TBARNER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Selling......
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:54:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

leave some prices and  there may be interest. thanks
From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Date: 15 Oct 1992 02:15:39 GMT
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Distribution: world
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jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:
>mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:

>>This is as good a place as any to alert folks to this:
>>
>>IF YOU FIND A SELF-EXTRACTING ARCHIVE IN BINSCII FORMAT, DO NOT UNBINSCII
>>IT BEFORE MOVING IT TO AN APPLE II.

>I did, and it worked fine.  

That is very interesting.  Did you include provisions in the transfer on
one or both ends to insure it arrived as a S16 file?

>>Several people ran something like sciibin to turn the SEA back into a
>>binary file on their internet boxes, and then used XMODEM or YMODEM to
>>move the self-extracting archive to a IIgs.  It turns out that if you
>>do this, XMODEM or YMODEM pads the file to a 128-byte boundary.  The
>>System Loader then sees the garbage at the end of the file as "not a
>>load segment" (which, of course, it isn't) and complains that something's
>>wrong.

>Understandable, and yet why should Xmodem or Ymodem pad a file to a 128
>byte boundary?  I mean, if it did that to every file you transferred
>with it, it'd be pretty worthless!

Usually it makes little difference.  A program gets a few ^Z's at the
end of it, the program doesn't care what's there, so they run fine.  S16
files though seem more picky.

>OTOH, I still think this whole mess wouldn't have happened if the
>SEA had been stuffed in a BII envelope (something to consider for future
>transfer of SEAs).

Hunh?  Then you run up GSHK to extract the .SEA, then exit GSHK to run
the .SEA?  An unnecessary step, unless your terminal program can remove
the Binary II envelope during the transfer.

And while I do use ProTERM, I can't get anything to transfer as binary
from this system.  Not even Kermit Binary!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: GS/OS calls - gs16forth.text usage
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:03:15 GMT

Matt Deatherage writes:

>GS/OS is documented in the "GS/OS Reference," available from Addison-Wesley
>for a few years now.  Your local bookstore should be able to get it for
>you.

Matt, is the GS/OS System 6 reference available from the same publisher?  I
need information on the MIDISynth tool, but haven't got enough details about
this book to order it from my local bookstore (specifically, the proper title
and ISBN number would be nice!).

Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Subject: tech questions - hello matt
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:12:20 GMT

TECH QUESTIONS - PART 2
 
[hope you have read Matt's answers..]
 
Thanks for your comments, Matt.
 
* What I really meant was that you need to stretch a picture
vertically (2x) in order to print simple text (DrawString) and
pictures (DrawPicture) on the same page correctly (so that the text
is condensed and the picture looks like that nice image on the
screen...).
Unfortunately, QDAux then doubles the font size of any text WITHIN
the picture (not that DrawString stuff). And that's boring because
these wonderful, eye-popping labels in GSymbolix's system of
coordinates overlap.
I've added a work-around (you must check a box when printing a graph
at 1:1-dpi-ratio) but I don't think that this is a state-of-the-art
technique.
How can I inihibit this automatic scaling?
 
* Also, I still want to draw REALLY EXTREMELY MEGA THIN FINE lines.
Those monsters the toolbox draws are good for posters...
..or are thin lines (C) by GraphicWriter ????
 
* Prefix 0 you said? Nope, it's 1/...
 
Thanks,
 
henrik
 
(please reply via e-mail - if possible)
 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Zip GS upgrade strangeness, take 2
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:59:18 GMT

toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

>Am I reading you right? If it works at 12mhz with 32k but not 64k then it is
>probably crosstalk or extra noise caused by the additional power drain.

May be.

>First thoughts that come to mind:
>Check all your solder joints (preferably with a capacitance meter if you can
>get one) because it is _very_ easy to make a joint that is marginal enough to
>cause failures only at high frequencies.

What I did was check all my solder joints "by eye" and "refresh" all of them,
i.e. I soldered them once more. The problem did not vanish, alas.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: uudecoding
From: cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (RANDY)
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:01:20 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Is there anything out there that can do uudecoding? When you do decode in
GSCII+ the menu that lets you change formats says "binscii" and is dimmed and
you can't change it. Or am I doing it wrong?
From: t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Keywords: shrinkit
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:44:39 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:

> I have uploaded GSHK v1.1 to comp.binaries.apple2.  It should appear at a
> site near you very soon.  I'll see what I can do about getting it put on
> ftp.apple.com.
> 

Well, I had problems with the .SEA file refusing to run (kept stopping 
right at the launch with "error $1104" [can't find segment, I think]). 
However, I -was- able to extract the actual nufile record out of the 
archive (go to +$2EE5 of the .SEA file and copy off that part).

Oddly enough, when I had GSHK1.1 re-create a new .SEA file of the same 
files, -that- .SEA file worked fine... 

Minor complaint: new layout of the get/put dialongs have me going nutty...


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From: PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Re:Pointless Fonts
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:12:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Eric--
I'd be interested in TrueType fonts posted to the APPLE2-L list,
particularly if they complement the ones available via ftp on cco.caltech.edu.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Amrit, C/C++
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:10:30 GMT

behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:

>Soenke
>P.S.: Recursive descent for a C compiler ... *snicker* (Ahem. I did not say a
>word. *Serious face*)

  Hey now.. :) lcc is recursive descent.  It's much faster that way.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.terminals
From: magras@cps.msu.edu (Mr. Jean-Claude Magras)
Subject: ANSI definitions and commands
Originator: magras@pacific.cps.msu.edu
Organization: Anarchy Committee
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 04:05:27 GMT

Dear computer users,

I am looking for information on the ANSI terminal standard. A list of the
ansi terminal commands would be appreciated. Information on the completeness
and accuracy of the definition given in Joe Campbell's "C Programmer's
guide to Serial Communication" would be another way to help. Definitions
of fields,protected, guarded and selected would be also appreciated.
The Ansi standard is #X3.64 .

Thanks for your time,

J.C. Magras

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: FTP help needed PART II
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:08:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.100045.14934@utkux1.utk.edu> sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur) writes:
>Okay....thus far I've tried 
>
>FTP>cd "pub/apple2"

Get rid of the quotes. You are making this harder than it is.

FTP>cd /pub/apple2
or
FTP>cd pub/apple2
if you are in the root directory.

>Any other help?
>
>Krish

Are you on a VMS machine? What are you ftping from?


Rich

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ShrinkIt GS 1.1 (cont.)
From: csokolo@eis.calstate.edu (Christopher Sokolov)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:37:04 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services
From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Stylewriter on a GS
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:34:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: vela.1992Oct14.213456.26948
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <1992Oct12.085635.4469@quando.quantum.de> henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan) writes:
>Can I connect a Stylewriter to my GS.

Yes, using the same printer cable you use on an ImageWriter II.

>Is there a System 6 printer driver for the Stylewriter.

Yes, it comes with the System 6.0 package.

>Who has one already connected, are you happy with it??

I tried it at Quality Computers and I was not impressed.  It is SLOW and
you cannot print in a mode that uses built in text characters, because the
StyleWriter has none.  Basically, you can only print from GS/OS programs
that are compatible with the Print Manager (i.e. Print Shop GS will NOT
work on it, etc..).  

>Thanks for any Comments.

You're welcome.  You'd do better with a DeskJet 500 or DeskWriter printer
because they also have built in fonts that you can use from ProDOS 8
based programs (but graphics are still not supported from ProDOS 8
or any other GS program that doesn't work with the Print Manager).  You
will also need Harmonie to print from GS/OS programs.

Note that because of the quality of the print, you will need a bitmap font
that is 4 times the size of the on-screen version.  If you are printing
12 point Helvetica, you will need a copy of 48 pt. in your font folder.  
The program called Pointless helps in this case because it will generate
any size font (up to 255) that you need, even one that the Print Manager
needs.  Pointless is not a replacement for Harmonie, it is simply a font
utility.  Harmonie takes the information from your program, combines it
with the font generated from Pointless, and sends the result to your
printer.  If you are using the DeskJet 500 internal fonts, you will not have
to worry about Pointless.

	Later,	
		...Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Laser printers/ IIgs
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:40:37 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
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Fred Wilson (aa331@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:
: 
: Can most any Laser printer with a serial port be connected
: to the IIgs?  I have found a Postscript printer (made my PCPI)
: which has both parallel and serial ports but NO Appletalk
: port.
: 
: The dealer seemed to think this would not work with a Mac (I've
: learned not to tell the I have a IIgs).  Should this or shouldn't
: this work??
: 
: Thanks Fred.
: 

Why do you need a PostScript Printer? PS printers always cost more..


If the printer emulates an HP LaserJet IIP, III, LaserWriter or such, it will 
work with Vitesse's Harmonie...

I suggest you get a new Panasonic Laser KX-P4410 for $649... it has IIP Emu., 28internal fonts, 5ppm speed, 300dpi, Card Slot, and a lot of other nice features.. it's also well built, and has a 200-page paper tray... it also has 51    
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it has 512k RAM, which upgrades to 4.5m... it should be increased to about 2m...($158) toner costs $30, and it includes one for free..
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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: StyleWriter for GS
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:20:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu Oct 08 92 at 17:11:23 (EST)

> From: dsdd@okcforum (Roy Barrett)
> No, you are absolutely wrong there, some 8-bit programs DO support the
> StyleWriter printer, ProTERM will work, if you set it up right, and so will
> all other programs that dump data to the printer. I don't use a StyleWriter,
> but I do the same thing with my Laser..

Not to spread misinformation, but have you actually done this? (printed from
ProTERM to a Stylewriter). Since the Stylewriter is a GRAPHICS ONLY Printer I
find it difficult to believe that you have. 

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From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: misc
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:17:45 GMT

>>From: des@ausom.oz.au (Dale Staines)
>>Subject: Printer Driver
 
>Can someone help me I an looking for some sample
>source code for a GS printer driver. I have the Tech notes
>but need some help to understand how to write a print Driver.
 
I'm surprised Matt didn't field this. Anyway, a back issue of develop, a
periodic (I think quarterly) technical thing (I think its a CD, but it might be
on paper) put out by Apple contains something called Picter - a "printer
driver" written by Matt (DTS) Deatherage that dumps printed documents to disk
as PICT files. I believe I saw develop back issues on ftp.apple.com.
 
 
>>From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
>Merlin sets the hi bit on text files?
>Why do programs do that? It doesn't make sense to me.
 
Programs do that because in order to place normal text on the text screen, the
hi bits must be set, so they store it this way as well for some speed.
 
>>Neil Parker and Matt Deatherage, generic xxxShutDown tail-patch
 
>>More importantly, though, Apple's not willing to promise that the system
>>won't patch out the ROMs looking for calling "xxxShutDown" from a specific
>>address.  That might be a compact way to fix a bug in ROM, and a tail-
>>patch would break it.  (Jay Krell, if he's listening, is a good person to
>>talk about tail patching as he's put a lot of thought into it.)
 
Heh, heh. I'm here. I don't feel like rehashing all the post-patching details,
other than that I don't believe a ROM patch will ever need to utilize the _2nd_
rtl address, which is what threatens post-patchers. I have eliminated
post-patching from AutoMenus, though.
 
 
Neil,
  You should buy a hard drive, no doubt about it. New Quantum drives are down
to around $300. If you insist on tail-patching, are concerned about future
System Software breaking you, and you use whatever you write for your own
personal use only, ask yourself this question: Are there any calls to
xxxShutDown in ROM to be patched by Apple? As far as I know (I might be wrong),
the answer is only "yes" for System 5.0.x on ROM 3.
 
 
Jay
 
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From: bed3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Benjamin E Delfin)
Subject: Loaded IIe system correction
Organization: not bloody much
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:25:34 GMT
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I forgot that the ton 'o games was traded away a while ago.
But the system *does* include about 150 blank discs, plus a few with games.
Apologies for the mistake.

Ben
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