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From: johnp@silver.lcs.mit.edu (John Palaima)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 5 Sep 92 12:45:04 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

I would be more interested in a GS version of Proterm that uses the text screen and the color text screen for ansi...

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johnp@trystero.uucp                 and coming soon..johnp@bcs.org
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet & TimeLord
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:36:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Lim Thye Chean writes: 

>Mitchell Spector, don't listen to him. Blue Helmet is the fastest car
>racing game on the GS. Although it is unfinished, but it is actually quite
>fun to play (I am also a fan of OutRun and Amiga's Lotus, and Blue Helmet is
>really very fast compare to them). On my system, it runs at 23.5 frames per
>seconds, really very impressive.
> 
>I like this game. Anybody willing to finish it? I am willing to pay $25
>shareware fees for it if it is finished.

  Not to worry, I found a copy on Tybalt a few days ago and tried it out! :-)
It's not -the- most impressive game software I've seen on a GS, yet I'll 
admit it comes pretty close! Actually some of the scrolling effects look as
if they were borrowed from FTA's own Space Harrier demo (ie- mountains).
The game itself is far from being finished, but it wouldn't take too much for
someone to build on it and complete it! Hmmm, it also reminds me of the old
motorcycle racing arcade game "Hang-on" from Sega. Maybe it wouldn't be such
a bad idea to create a Super-Hang-on clone out of it...

>    %% GS Lover Loves GS %%    Author of Super Magic 3 & Mandelbrot II GS
>    %%  and Avatar too.  %%
>          Lim Thye Chean: Lim is my surname. My name is Thye Chean.
>     My address: LTCHEAN@ISS.NUS.SG, or 9, College Green, Singapore 1129

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:32:22 GMT

schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:
: 
: 7 MHz, 8Kb ZIPGS
: Apple High Speed DMA SCSI card.
: 
: Do these two cards match up fairly well?
: 
	I recommend that u get at least a 8mhz Zip GS.  7mhz is too
slow.  Like u said, there is a significant difference between 7 and 8
mhz.  There is quite a difference too from 8 to 9 mhz but it depends on
what ur main concern is:  if u're doing lots of CPU intensive jobs like
mathematical calculations, then the speed diff is not much but for
animation, graphics and windows, u can really see the diff!  I know 'coz
I just upgraded my ZipGS from 8mhz to 9mhz.

: 4.  Oh, one final thing!  With the proposed set-up what would be
:     the most cost effective Cache size for the ZIPGS?
: 
	32k is a good cache size for 8mhz.  Remember to get fast cache
ram chips otherwise ur accelerator will be bottlenecked by the cache.

: 
: Thanks in advance,
: 
: Paul Schultz
: schultp@wl.com

	You're welcome. :)

- DOTW -
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:12:32 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Eight key 'cord'? keyboards?
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <1992Sep9.203145.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> rand_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>I have heard about a keyboard that only has eight keys on it and uses
>combinations of them pushed at once to produce all the letters. I think it
>might be called a 'cord' keyboard but I'm not sure. Anyway I wrote a little
>program to emulate it and was wondering if anyone knows the key combinations so
>I can get the program to work right???

  I saw this in a Mac rag the other day and they called it a BAT (don't know
if that is their name for it or if it is a general term for it).  I'm going
to call them and see if it is mac-specific or if it is just a special ADB
device.  BUT, I doubt your program will work since I believe that characters
are defined by keys being pressed all at once and not in a special order
(which would be hard to do on an Apple).  You seem to understand that, so
I'm wondering how you did it for 8 keys (shift, capslock, option, command,
????).

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: colbyp@pro-freedom.cts.com (Colby Pederson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Shadowgate
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:52:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep13.175234.2247
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


  I wrote earlier about Shadowgate, but no one answered me and when they
did they told me about the problem with my name at the end of the letters. 
I have no idea what it means, but I told my sysop and he said he would fix
it.  The problem is I don't know when.  But anyway, I'll ask the questions
again and hopefully someone out there will answer me.

  In the small room where you find the sling and sword, you get a hint that
says "Try with all your Might!".  Does anyone know what that means?  In the
waterfall room, how do you move the landslide so you can get up the stairs.
In the coffin room there is a coffin with a slime.  The coffin with the
slime is a doorway, but I have no idea on how to get through the door
without being engulfed by the slime.  How do you kill the slime or at least
get rid of it?  In the room with the doorway up above the ground and the
arrow on the wall, how do you get in the doorway?  And the last question, 
how do you get past the troll on the bridge?  I have the "humana" spell,
but it doesn't work.  Do I actually need to use this spell on the troll,
and if so, what do I need to do to make it work?  If I don't need it here,
what do I do?  Thanks alot!

                                        Colby Pederson
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 ProLine: colbyp@pro-freedom                | Vancouver, WA
 ARPANet: clark!pro-freedom!colbyp@nosc.mil | Apple*Van
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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Rom 2?
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:43:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Sep 12 92 at 19:50:24 (EST)

> From: bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
>                                                   Developer Technical
> Was such a beast ever available?

Number one. Yes. It is available and has been for a LONG time. This note is a
little confusing and is just ONE of the reasons that GS's are referred to as
Rom 01 GS's or Rom 03 GS's. The ORIGINAL GS's had a Rom sometimes called the
first Rom or the Rom 00 GS. Apple made fixes and changes and produced a new
Rom, i.e the 2nd Rom for GS's and after this Rom is installed you have a Rom
01 GS. Rom 03 GS's are different beasties with a completely different
motherboard.

> I contacted the folks at Insync... and was told by their tech support that
> their modem cable, and the current software drivers will work perfectly
> (what a laugh!!!) especially, since they admitted that they did not even
> try the new modem out and have not written a specific driver for it.....
> 

Hey! Don't shrug off Insync, they wrote the program and the program was
designed to work (in hardware handshaking mode) with the cables diagrammed in
the manual. Works fine on my systems, btw. 
 
> However, I have had the same problem with different cable configurations,
> and different software, so it must be related to the GS itself....

Different cable configurations...different software...er, have you tried doing
a self test? Have you disabled all extra drivers, shift booted your gs and
tried Proterm with the cable diagrammed in the manual?

                    -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
                      (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)
         {Cathouse BBS (301) 840-8567 3/12/24/9600 V.32 24 hours}
      * "This is Rumor Control, and here are the facts." (Alien 3) *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
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	id <i913174@pro-sol.cts.com>; Wed,  9 Sep 92 03: 39 PDT
	id <i915201@pro-fla.cts.com>; Wed,  9 Sep 92 04: 13 EDT
From: bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Re: Posting DOS 3.3 Launcher
Organization: TruckStop BBS  [pro-fla] *A ProLine Networked BBS*  Tampa, FL
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 04:11:10 EDT


For your info, most SHAREWARE is distributed by that means... it is posted,
if ya like it, ya pay for it...

unfortunately, that is not always the case... I have attempted to pay for
several packages to get the fully enabled versions, and have had my check
cashed and receive nothing, or, have had it returned, no forwarding
address, and been unable to locate the author/or a fully enabled copy of
the program....

such as WordSearch GS, a really excellent wordpuzzle generator, but
distributed without the editor.... ya want the full works, ya send yer 10
bucks, trouble is, I did, and got my check back....
From: ericm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Meta key for the GS
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:23:04 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

cwilson@toast.wpd.sgi.com (Chan Wilson) writes:
>Ideally, holding closed-apple with a key would send the character with
>the 8th bit set, but I'm not sure if this would cause havok with stuff

A small communication program I wrote does exactly this.  The option key
sets the high bit of the character being typed (or reverses the parity if
using 7 bit and parity).  I need to clean the code up a little bit before
releasing it; currently it only works in P8 on a rom 1 GS using the modem
port.  My program does a few little things that I haven't seen in others
yet (I don't want to sound like bragging, but I can get lazy so I made my
program to help me stay that way).  It auto adjusts: bps, parity, emulation
(screen and keyboard); it'll reset the emulation after a call is finished,
it'll auto redial if a number is busy and you doing nothing after the busy
message.  Best of all, these features can be overridden or disabled during
unusual enviroments.  I have been thinking of converting it to a 5K CDA if
there is any interest for such a program.
-- 
      ____
  Y_,_|[]|   Eric Mulholland
 {|_|_|__|   ericm@sage.cc.purdue.edu
 //oo--OO    ...!pur-ee!sage.cc!ericm
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:06:04 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple GS problems
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <1992Sep11.055415.12087@microsoft.com> Ken Moss writes:
>you get is mouse trail of squares.  Have checked memory available and

Remove Easy Access if it is installed.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: cwilson@toast.wpd.sgi.com (Chan Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Meta key for the GS
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:05:31 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <behrenss.715735363@hphalle6>, behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE writes:
> 
> Use the ESC key for a META key. Works like a charm with my emacs here
> at university.

That's not a fix, that's a workaround.  In Z-link, you can rebind
closed-apple keys to things like 'esc v' which is more of a fix.

Ideally, holding closed-apple with a key would send the character with
the 8th bit set, but I'm not sure if this would cause havok with stuff
inbetween emacs & the GS...

--Chan
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PageWriter
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:19:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <290VqB4w165w@lablues.UUCP>, larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A.
Schneider) wrote:
> 
>>      We are concerned of legalities.  While Mr. Lutus has placed Apple 
> Writer 2.1 into the public domain, he has not placed the source code into 
> P.D.; our work is based on my disassembling of the original.  We have not 
> been able to get in contact with Mr. Lutus to see if he cares.

You should be concerned, and you should pay attention.  All of the
information released with Apple Writer 2.1 on GEnie _CLEARLY_ indicates
that Apple Writer is not in the public domain.

Let me repeat that, because it doesn't seem to be sinking in:  APPLE WRITER
IS NOT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.  Paul Lutus has agreed that it may be freely
distributed, but he retains ALL rights to the program.

APPLE WRITER IS NOT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.  And Paul Lutus does care when
people rip off his work.

  (GS) is a 
> trademark of Apple Computer; the program is called PageWriterGS; will Mac 
> Inc. give us trouble????  Chet has written Mr. (I hate the II) Skulley(?) 
> directly hoping to get permission; we have not tried to go through Mac 
> Inc. legal department feeling, it being the largest department, it would 
> be futile; Steve Disbrow has assured me it is futile to contact the Mac 
> Inc. legal department; he got his permission to use (GS) directly from 
> Skulley.

(Ahem) Dizbrow's contact with Apple's legal department seems to have
consisted of "Can we do this?"  Response:  "No."  Diz:  "Write to Sculley."

Dizbrow has no concept of how to get things done -- if his mailman is late
one day, he writes to the Postmaster General.

Writing to John Sculley for permission to use Apple trademarks (like "GS")
in your products is pretty futile; he'll just send your request to the
legal department.  No one's going to confuse "PageWriter" for a non-GS
version, since there isn't one.  Try just calling it "PageWriter for the
Apple IIgs," which is perfectly legal.

As Apple's trademark guidelines would have told you, had you actually
asked legal for a copy of them.

> larry@lablues.UUCP

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS/OS System 5.0.4 vs System 6.0
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:54:22 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
: It seems this 'Finder needs xxxK' message is more common than I
: thought.  I get it on occasion as well, especially after quitting
: Teach or my own TextEdit-based editor.  It is always a once-off.  If I
: choose to 'Return' to the previous application, I end up in the System
: 6 mini-launcher, and can always relaunch Finder from that.
: 
: I have a ROM 03 with GS Juice Plus 4 MB RAM card.  RAM5 is set to 800k.
: -- 

	I tried choosing "Return to previous application" today (yep,
the infamous "Finder needs ...." message crops up again, sigh) and my
whole GS hung up!  Really hope they fixed the bug(?) in 6.0.1.  But now
that at least I get confirmation from several of you, I feel assured
that my GS Ram+ is not the main culprit.

: David Empson
: 
: Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
: Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand

- DOTW -
Finder phobia
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: NDA vs. CDA?
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:13:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep15.091336.4377@actrix.gen.nz>,
David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz wrote:

> The term "Classic" is based on the traditional idea of desk
> accessories as a small program you call up while in another program

It's actually more based around the concept that you need access to some
kinds of desk accessories, like the Control Panel, when you're not running
under the desktop environment (i.e., in "Classic" Apple II mode).

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SCSI cards
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:54:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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UNSENT MAIL!                            
NO NAME SPECIFIED!                      
From:	BITNET::INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM
To:	
Subj:	Re: SCSI cards

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To:
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple IIGS Menu Manager
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:02:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Distribution: usa
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <2735@news.cerf.net>, mdj@nic.cerf.net (Mark de Jong) wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Question: how do I tell the menu manager that the new font is taller and wider
> than what it's used to and have it adjust itself to those new parameters? or do
> I have to create a custom menu definition just to change the font?

You have to set the system font to the font you want before calling
MenuStartUp.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lepard@mayo.edu (Kevin O. Lepard)
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet & TimeLord
Reply-To: lepard@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 23:10:31 GMT

In article i684339@pro-fla.cts.com, bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon) writes:
>
>Blue Helmet crashes on Zipped, TWGS'd, non accellorated Rom 1's and 3's...
>
>I have tried every available hardware config.... same problems....
>


That is interesting.  Blue Helmet runs fine on my ROM 1 GS (1.25M, no
accelerator.)

Kevin
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Kevin O. Lepard
Internet:  lepard@mayo.edu

Disclaimer:  These opinions are mine alone and do not necessarily represent
those of the Mayo Foundation, Mayo Clinic, or any other person or institution.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS/OS System 5.0.4 vs System 6.0
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:40:06 GMT

Heh.  That's nice to be able to get into the Program Launcher after the
"Finder needs xxxK" message.  Most of the time, I wind up with a totally
black screen with a wait cursor on it.  It's almost like some idiot closed
the SYS.RESOURCES file.

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
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From: glennl@pro-acsd.cts.com (Glenn Levine)
Subject: Re: Operating System for Apple II
Organization: ProLine [pro-acsd] Apple Corps of San Diego
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 15:16:05 PDT

what kind of apple II do you have an apple IIE of a IIGs
I can give you some help getting your system going give me a call
at (619)578-1243 and ask for Glenn.  For an apple IIe you need to get
prodos 8 or prodos 16 for a IIGS.  You can get these programs on this bbs I

believe of your local user group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
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	id <i513264@pro-sol.cts.com>; Sat,  5 Sep 92 03: 41 PDT
	id <i520207@pro-fla.cts.com>; Sat,  5 Sep 92 05: 36 EDT
From: bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Software..
Organization: TruckStop BBS  [pro-fla] *A ProLine Networked BBS*  Tampa, FL
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 05:01:31 EDT


For those of you that would like to know... I just purchased Transylvania
III from Merit Software, for 9.95 & shipping.... they also still carry
quite a few Apple II educational titles that are not listed in their
software brochure... their numbe is 1-800-238-4277.....

a really OUTSTANDING game, for an excellent price.... if ya order, please
tell em what ya think, and perhaps they will port more titles over.....


also, for those that have asked about dragon's lair...

ReadySoft Inc
 
Updated: 26-Jul-1992
Document ID:
 
     Address: 30 Wertheim Ct #2
              Richmond Hill, Ontario L4B 1B9
              CANADA
 
  Main Phone: 416-731-4175   Fax Phone: 416-764-8867
 Products: Software
 
 Dragon's Lair II: Time Warp
 Guy Spy and the Crystals of Armageddon - adventure game
 International Sports Challenge - from Empire Simulation
 Pacific Islands - sequel to Team Yankee by Empire Simulation
 Sleeping Gods Lie - role-playing game from Oxford Digital
 Space Ace - follow up to Dragon's Lair
 Space Ace II: Borf's Revenge
 Team Yankee - modern tank warfware simulation
 Volfied - arcade game
 Wrath of the Demon - arcade game


give em a call!  SUPPORT APPLE II PUBLISHERS!!!!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Needed: synthLAB file format
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:20:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.234915.19384@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt) writes:
>Well, I got this info elsewhere so I don't need it anymore.  Thanks to Mike
>Nuzzi for making up a great HCGS stack that explains everything you need to
>know about MIDISynth :)
>

Is this HCGS stack available at any of the ftp sites?  I think I'd like to 
take a look at it!

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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