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From: mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Night Music/Miles
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:18:25 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

To bring two current threads together, I remember with special fondness the 
two shows of Night Music when Miles played. He was hot, his band was hot, 
and Marcus Miller even joked with him, much to his apparent displeasure. 
When you are that hip, you can't let people know you are mortal. (let's see 
how do you do one of those smiley faces :-).)
Sanborn sat in on one number I think. It fulfilled his dream. It was clear 
his pure jazz playing was not up to the caliber of the band, but he hung in 
there, and earned my respect for doing it. Through his own growth from 
Night Music he went on to record Another Hand, a fine album. This thread 
has clearly shown why such shows can't make it on TV.

... Night Music was just too, too, too, too good.

Bill McHenry                   |Those who do not hear the past works
mchenry@guvax (bitnet)         |are condemned to recompose them....
mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu   |                 -me
From: ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Clarinet arcana
Date: 26 Aug 1992 10:53:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Jamey Aebersold publishes a book of transcriptions of Benny Goodman
solos.  I don't know anything about it, but it might be a good place to
start.

-Dan
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From: bulm2533@hgc.edu (steven bulmer)
Subject: Night Music remembered
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:02:27 GMT

Well I fondly remember Night Music for turning me on to some
music that I might never have gotten to hear otherwise (living
in radio wasteland).  Sun Ra and the Arkestra and perhaps what I
am most thankful for is the exposure to Carla Bley//Charlie Haden
and the New Liberation Orchestra; man the show went out with "Spiritual"
and whoever was playing bone at the time was one of the baddest mo-fo's,
I've ever heard...he greased up a 5 minute gospel solo that grew so
big so slow that I was overwhelmed!

That was a great show, although I wish Sanborn had felt a little
less obligated to accompany everyone.  But as Beer mentioned, he
could have been a real tool in his position and still always
seemed to put the music first.

-Steve B
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Duke Robillard/Roomful of Blues
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:13:52 GMT
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <5162@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, ctomer+@pitt.edu (Chris Tomer)
writes:
|>I'm interested in the music of guitarist Duke Robillard. Any opinions
|>about his recordings? 
|>
|>I'm also interested in getting opinions about the recordings of Roomful of
|>Blues. 
|>
|>Any information would be appreciated.
|>

Go right now to the nearest music store and buy a copy of Duke Robillard's
'Swing' album.  It won a grammy the year it was released.  It is an excellent
album.  His other albums are good as well but lean more towards 'rock' than
jazz/blues.  I think Duke only was with Roomful of Blues for one or two albums.
I could be wrong        

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Bell Northern Research          |   Part of Northern Telecom 
Richardson, Texas               |   i'm really in Texas
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No opinions herein expressed have anything to do with the opinions 
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These statements are mine and mine alone, well i guess my wife 
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From: Boyd <BOYD@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:11:00 GMT

In article <Aug27.174941.58939@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) writes:
>
>Anyone remember "Night music with David Sanborn"?

   Unfortunately, yes. "Unfortunately", because there was very little
going on the few times I watched it, and all I got to see and hear was
typical Sanbornian jam-an' white bread music. It was technically very
good, but I tend to go off the stuff very quickly for sounding the same
as the last two songs ....

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From: JGATOWSK@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Joe Lovano / Texas Jazz Festival
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:45:53 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs


Thanks to all for the info on Joe Lovano.

Kelly Dooley asks me to forward this posting on Lovano and the
Texas Jazz Festival.


                               Jan Gatowski



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 From: dooley@nth.com (Kelly Dooley)
 Message-Id: <9209011648.AA01657@nth.com>
 To: JGATOWSK@cmsa.gmr.com
 Subject: Info on Joe Lovano (sp ?)



 Hey Jan,

 I see many responses to your question about Lovano, and i too love his work.
 It is surprising, though, that nobody mentioned his fabulous work with
 the Woody Herman band in the 80's and the more recent years with the Mel
 Lewis Orchestra. His big blowin sound was perfect for Mel's all-star sax
 section (check out all the live at the Village Vanguard recordings).  I
 caught him live with Scofield last summer at the Texas Jazz Festival in
 Corpus Christi, TX, also.  Great show. Even got a chance to talk with him while
 we were waiting in line to take a whiz.  The festival, held every year the
 week before July 4 in Corpus Christi, is really quite phenominal.  It
 hosts many great Texas jazz/blues/salsa artists as well as many big-time names.
 Some of the past artists: Freddy Hubbard, Jon Faddis, John Scofield, Joe
 Lovano, Dan Brubeck, Bella and the Flecktones (this summer), Fatburger,
 and many more than i can think of off the top of my head. A good number
 of European groups, too.  It's really quite a well kept secret. The setting
 is nice, too- all outdoors (no smokey clubs) right on the bay front.
 Quite pleasant. And here's the kicker: it's all absolutely free. Yup. The
 whole week, even the headliners (although there are a few pay events
 happening on the side, such as a "Jazz Cruise", where you ride around on
 a boat listening to your favorite artist).

 Why am i telling you all this (really, i hadn't planned to, i was just
 responding to your question about Joe Lovano, which got me to thinking
 about the festival)?  I hoping was you would post this to rec.music.bluenote
 since i am unable to.  This is really a happening event each year, and it
 would be nice to see more people take advantage of it.  Maybe next fourth-
 o-july, if you're wondering what to do, you could take a couple of days
 off to come down to see it.  Nice warm beaches, too.

 Thanks in advance if you post this.

 P.S., If you're interested in an actual discography of Lovano's big band
 stuff, give me a shout, i'll be happy to look in my collection.

 Kelly Dooley
 Nth Graphics
 Austin, TX
 dooley@nth.com



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From: kai@sco.COM (Kai Christiansen)
Subject: Re: BLUES: Howlin' Wolf vs. Son House
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:35:47 GMT


lots of good stuff deleted below. I really enjoyed the perspective other 
than a few comments)

In article <1992Aug20.221641.29894@cbfsb.cb.att.com> muddy@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael.c.recchione) writes:

> . . . . .The Wolf's earlier work was definately rural Delta blues (as was 
>Muddy Waters'), and his stuff didn't really electrify until Chicago in the 
>50's (ditto for Muddy).  . . . .

True for Muddy, not Wolf. Unless you have heard earlier recordings that I
have not, Wolf's first recordings were mightly electric and rockin'. With
the exception of an unavailable radio recording from '48, Wolf's first
recordings were done in 1950. No question that Wolf was a true Delta man
and his music greatly reflected that, but from the beginning of his 
recorded history, he boogied and swung. His electric sound in Memphis 
was much more bold that Muddy's music would be for at least a few years.
I can't say what he sounded like before Sam Phillips.

>. . . . . . . . . .  This was kind of ironic - Clapton, Page, & Beck started
>their careers trying to sound like Muddy & the Wolf, and Muddy & the Wolf ended
>theirs trying to sound like Clapton, Page, & Beck.  Life's a bitch sometimes,
>ain't it?

I do not agree that Muddy and Wolf ever wanted to sould like Clapton
Page and Beck. Not even in the slightest.  While they may have
recorded and gig'ed together, this was surely spearheaded by others
in the music business or Clapton himself. The Wolf London sessions are
great blues and the contributions of Clapton, Winwood et. al. should
be admired. But the fact that the tunes are all Wolf classics done in
the classic Wolf style in no way suggests that Wolf was anything but
himself during these sessions. I would hazard a guess that Wolf would
have hated Jeff Beck's music (even the blues tunes) just because
of the profound difference in style but this is only my guess from
reading a bit about Wolf's own perspectives.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: Rajiv.Prasad@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Rajiv Prasad)
Subject: Ufo Tofu -- Bela Fleck & The Flecktones
Organization: /u/comp200/rprasad/.organization
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:18:43 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.bluenote


A review of Ufo Tofu would be really neat. How does it compare with Flight of
the Cosmic Hippo? Unfortunately, Ufo Tofu won't be released in New Zealand --
the market for The Flecktones is very small. I've ordered it from the States 
and it should be here in about a week and a half. 

One of kiddies programs reviewed Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael whilst playing
The Sinister Minister in the background. Either Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael
has an amazing soundtrack or the producers of What Now! have great taste in 
music. What Now! features Ren&Stimpy -- the only reason to watch it:)

Rajiv.
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: laurecr@eng.auburn.edu (Chase R. Laurendine)
Subject: Re: SRV Fan
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:18:14 GMT


It's me again,

   After lunch I made a stop at Wild Man Steve's and as expected he wouldn't
reveal his sources, but he did give me his blessings for posting his address
and phone number.  Steve is interesting to talk to, he seems to be a throw back 
from the late '60s.  Fully understanding the laws of supply and demand, don't let
the Wild Man charge you too much for these CDs.
   He has one more copy of the single CD that I mentioned in my previous post.  
The 3 CD collection that I bought from him was the first of its kind he had run 
across (apparently from a new label), he had ordered another copy that he expected
to get in a few weeks.  From talking to him, it seemed as though he could get as
many copies as he wanted.  Hey, maybe if enough of you order a copy of this from
him, he may give a complimentary copy of one of the 2 CD SRV sets left in his
display case, NOT!!:-)  


WILDMAN STEVE'S Record & CD Exchange
114 W. Magnolia Avenue
Auburn, Al.  36830
(205) 821-6622



May the blues be with you.



Chase Laurendine              "Be good and you will be lonesome.", Mark Twain
Auburn University
laurecr@eng.auburn.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: hsu@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: Butch Morris
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 01:31:17 GMT

sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz) writes:

>I'd say Butch Morris' "Homeing" spent as much time on
>my CD player in the last year as any album.  It's fantastic.
...
>My second favorite is "Current Trends in Racism in America", also 
>on SoundAspects.  It's fine, but the music isn't quite as strong and 
>the players don't interact quite as nicely.  Until Bill Hsu gets back 
>on the net, I feel I should point out that "Current Trends" is less soothing,
>more outside material, with wild Zorn sax.

(Actually I'm back thru the magic of telnet.) I like both Homeing and
Current Trends. Current Trends is less consistent, but the highs are
*very* high..

>I also have a Morris CD on another label called something like
>"Dust to Dust"... I just couldn't get into it, despite fine personnel.

Agreed. The textures are muddy, and the "pieces" don't sound convincing.

I also like Morris' trio work with Bill Frisell and Wayne Horvitz,
Todos Santos. There's another trio record that's supposed to be similar.

Bill

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From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Re: Miles with John McLaughlin (Jack Johnson record)
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:18:17 GMT

In article <37559@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid ) writes:
>>except that most of the time he is comping rather than soloing.  What
>>comping, though!  And his solo at the end of "Right Off" is wild.
>
>I'm sorry, but that wasn't McLaughlin soloing at the end. It was
>Sonny Sharrock. He just didn't get the credit for it.
>
It is McLaughlin soloing at the end. Sonny Sharrock is the one making all the
gnarly, screaching noises heard in the right channel. These were done with
Sonny playing through an echoplex while Chick Corea manipulated the controls
therby causing the echoing feedback effects. Sonny really didn't do too much
on the album as all the other guitar is McLaughlin.

Mark
From: chrisda@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:59:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

Yeah, it would be nice if network TV would put on an hour of jazz some Friday
night...

I was thinking about Branford's music on the Tonight Show.  It seems like he's
always in the middle of something involved when the show comes back from a 
commercial, and then has to cut it off abruptly.  Much as I like the idea of
his music on NBC, somehow it hasn't really fit in yet, at least to me.  I mean,
with the old band/Doc Severinson, it had the proper glitzy appeal for J.Carson.
But Branford's not really adapted very well to the TV medium, it seems.

Anyone else have this reaction?
From: sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Butch Morris
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:55:04 GMT
Reply-To: sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

In article <1992Sep1.013117.632@csrd.uiuc.edu>, William Tsun-Yuk Hsu writes:

I also like Morris' trio work with Bill Frisell and Wayne Horvitz,
Todos Santos. There's another trio record that's supposed to be similar.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

"Nine Below Zero" on SoundAspects.  It's 
Horvitz, Morris, and Previte.  
I like it lots.   Not at all like the large group
sessions we discussed earlier.  Lots of synth-
everyone plays some DX7.  Compositions are
by Horvitz and Holcomb (hence, I imagine, the
similarity to Todos Santos).  

So has anyone heard the album of Morris and 
others on FMP, called "X-Communication"?
Comments?
=-Seth
From: laurecr@eng.auburn.edu (Chase R. Laurendine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: SRV Fan
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:18:48 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL



Hy all,

    Well I must say I have had a large response to my post.  I bought
the CD collection at a small used record and CD store here in Auburn, Alabama
called Wild Man Steve's CDs.  I won't tell you what I paid for the set, I am
a bit embarrased about it, but I can say that it was worth every penny.  The
wild man has a display case with many hard to find CDs, including four different
SRV sets.  Being a true SRV fan, I releived him of half his selection.  I bought
the collection that I mentioned plus another single CD which was a set of live recordings of SRV from 1979 with Mary Lou Barton (I think that was her name) and
double trouble (the quality of this disk is pretty poor).  When he introduced 
the band members on one of the songs, I didn't recognise any of the names I heard.
When I go home I will listen to it again and post their names, it seems that he
mentioned a sax player named Johnny Reno.  If you like I can post the list of 
songs on the CD.  The first four or five tracks were from Texas Flood (released 
in '83) the remaining 12 songs were all new to me and most had Mary Lou Barton 
as the lead singer.  By the way, he introduce the band as Double Trouble and
not Triple Threat.
    If I had the money I would have bought the remaining two CD sets (each a
double CD for $60).  I will go back over to Wild Man Steve's and ask him were
he got it and if he can possibly get more.  I hate going over there, my wallet 
and check book tend to jump out of my back pocket and on to the counter and force
my hand to sign myself into debt.  Anyway I`ll get back with you after lunch with
what Steve says.





Chase Laurendine              "Be good and you will be lonesome.", Mark Twain
Auburn University
laurecr@eng.auburn.edu
From: mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:39:48 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Aug25.140114.12511@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) writes:
>>Also, Jay Leno commented on working with Miles at some point.  When was this?
>>Anybody know?
> 
> Yeah, Leno actually sounded pretty stupid, if you ask me.  He asked
> Roney about Miles turning his back to the audience (Why Roney, it was
> the others who played with Miles, not Roney ) and Roney said something
> to the effect that he was doing it to hear the music better with his
> band, and Leno said "You got out of that one".

Reminds of what Miles said about going on the Tonight Show is his 
autobiography. That white people don't know how to talk to black people. I 
have to say it applies to Carson and Leno. I saw Carson with Dizzy and the 
questions he asked were ridiculous. Same thing with Wynton and Ellis 
Marsalis. Now Leno asks his idiotic questions, looking extremely 
uncomfortable and covering it with his toy poodle laugh. Why not let 
Branford come over and talk to them?

> 
> They did So What first, and there was some nice blowing.  Roney is
> sounding better and better, although he is imitating Miles (from that
> period) more and more.   If he isn't too careful, he will end up like
> Jon Faddis doing Diz.   Tony was kicking.  I don't think Herbie's
> comping was as seamless as it used to be.  ( I call them the "star
> licks".  Usually it takes him about 3 or 4 tunes to settle down)
> 
> Still, it is great that they had them on. 
> 
> Jeff

I don't think Wallace is getting to be too much like Miles. I noticed that 
he was playing traditional hard bop lines without a lot of space between 
the licks. Miles sometimes played that way but not usually. Wallace also 
started his solo by immediately going "outside," probably to distinguish 
himself from Miles' most famous solo (or one of the most) on So What. The 
energy of So What went down a little when they focused on Ron Carter. He 
has been playing those scale licks for 20 years and should not be featured 
as a soloist. The final medley seemed cut off - were they planning to play 
another tune and ran out of time? It ended very abruptly. I did not 
recognize most of it. What were those tunes? New stuff? (Was it Little One 
or Pee Wee that opened it - I can't remember the tune's name.) Anyway, good 
to see them on but so unsatisfying. Imagine following them with a 16 year 
old selling spicy cookies through the mail. An insult to all Art.

Bill McHenry                   |Those who do not hear the past works
mchenry@guvax (bitnet)         |are condemned to recompose them....
mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu   |                 -me
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From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: bb king is giving me the blues
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:12:13 GMT

In article <17g658INNsac@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.200358.23144@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New) writes:
>>But Atwater didn't say *anything* about his skin color.  YOU DID!  Atwater
>
>It is acknowledged, and has been
>since the '88 campaign, that the use of Horton was a racist
>tactic designed to scare voters into associating Democrats
>with criminality.

Associating Democrats w/criminality may be wrong... but
it isn't racist.  That's my point.  I think it associated
a Democrat w/being soft on crime, not criminality in general.

>The posters here who are commenting on Atwater's
>cynicism and manipulation are to be congratulated rather
>than ranted at as you have done.

Well, it all started by someone faulting BB King for playing
at the event.  Let BB King decide for himself.  This guy
"can't listen to BB King in the same way."  Has BB King's
music changed by all this?  Or should BB King spit on the
grave of Lee Atwater?  Whould that make you feel better?

Maybe you folks should take a hint from BB King.  Who do
you think BB King would agree with here?  He obviously
didn't have a big hang up about Atwater being a racist.
Doesn't that say something?

You know... I've met BB King.  I've spoken with BB King...
and you are no BB King.   :-)

My point was to separate BB King's race and political views
from his music.  Perhaps, I went overboard with the
"racist puke" comment.  But saying BB King let down his
entire race was also out of line.


Elliott "now I'm a subject in rec.music.bluenote" New



P.S. - The "Elliott New is giving me the Blues" subject
line is kinda funny, in a way.  I play in a blues band
called Elliott and the Untouchables... all classic
blues... lots of BB King stuff.
From: FKR@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Coltrane Cut
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:50:48 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I was wondering if anyone would know the name of a Coltrane cut mentioned some-
time this summer.There was a thread where folx were talking about a CD by
Coltrane where he supposedly plays flute on it. I don't remember the name of
the cut but I hope someone can help me out.  Thanks in advance.


Fred Rozenblad
FKR@psuvm.psu.edu
From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Andrew White info req
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:29:19 GMT
Organization: Doc Porter's Thrills Show


Does anyone out there have address/info on obtaining a catalogue
from Andrew White of his records and transcriptions etc..?

I used to have a couple of his LP's but they were "borrowed" and never
returned. (Grrrrrr...) Also, I saw the man play once in a rare
quartet performance. I don't know if I've ever seen a better
saxaphone concert. 

thanks to anyone who can help,
 
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