From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Collins (Was: Joey Beard - Duke Bound)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:52:12 GMT

In article <BvuAn1.AI0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Nell  
Carter's Pool Boy) writes:
> I wrote:
> > Rob wrote:
> >> In article <BvIt8s.AMI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
> > (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be) writes:
> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > At least it's not a Jim Bain Wanna-Be, thank God!
> 
> I'll just assume this is a compliment.  I hope. :-)

Definitely.  See Feinstein, "Forever's Team", or any Big 10+ 
net.personality for more info.

> >Given his low & flat release, I'm not too surprised.  

(Note: This opinion was derived from the MacDonald's game
 as seen via the tube)

> >IHSA refs (in my experience and opinion) were much more likely to call
> >the foul on a defender when a three point shot was defensed.  In college
> >ball it seems quite the opposite - refs are not wont to call the foul on
> >the three due to the big payoff.

> IHSA Refs called a foul on a three-point shot exactly three times this past
> year (91-92), and none the year before.

Is this a stat for your/his team, or the whole state??  I found that 
defenders seemed very scared to defense the outside shot - maybe this
is what I observed, and derived the opinon thusly, but I'm sure I saw
at least 2 of the three if you're saying "3 in IL".

> It's been brought up to me that a HS point guard isn't neccessarily a college
> point guard.  Not having seen much of college hoops, I'll reserve judgement
> on that 'till later

Chris looked pretty good in the pickup game I saw last Friday on campus.
Some good moves that looked hard to defense, and a breakaway that made
Hurley say "fockin" in true Jersey City fashion.

> >Rob>If that's true, then why did Duke get Jeff Capel, and pursue Randy
> >Rob>Livingston so hard? I hope that Collins does work out, and that K takes
> >Rob>some of the wildness out of him, as Chuck mentioned.  Tommy Amaker could
> >Rob>really teach him a thing or two on the virtues of unselfishness.
> 
> >Agreed, Rob.  We'll see if he can learn, at Duke or elsewhere.  I'm sure
> >that CC had a TV the last two years - we'll see if he used it, and realizes
> >the situation he is coming into.  
> 
> This is dangerous ground, and to keep the flames out of my mailbox, I'm
> keeping my mouth shut on this one.  I'd probably blow the 100K limit if I
> didn't...

Basically, my opinion in responding to Rob is based on his performance in
the McDonalds AA game where he was a black hole (though in his defense he
is a great shooter - but look up Duke's record in games were one player
has scored 30+ in the Coach K era - probably not even above .500).

It's not intended to be a personal attack on CC either.

> Chris has traditionally been something of a clutch shooter, but he knows that
> there are times when it isn't his place to do it.  I doubt we'd have gone as
> far as we did this spring if he didn't understand that.  The "big" shots at
> the end of the season came from others.  Not Chris.

This sounds good.  I'm still a little worried after the Gminski fiasco
(Jason - send me mail if you haven't heard about this and I'll fill you
in).  My opinion probably shouldn't be based so much on an all star game
either.  He certainly held his own against Hurley in the pickup game, and
looked to be in fine shape.

Sorry this reply took so long - our news server went batty - while
I was away 

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