HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: n9248086@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Matthew Daniels)
Subject: Mexican cave
Organization: Western Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:22:50 GMT

This may not be the appropriate place for this question, but I don't know
where else to ask it.
A while back, in the New York Times, I read a truly fascinating article
about a mesa north of Mexico City that was basically hollow and with an
extensive cave network.  The article was about a former grad student, now
professor from an East Coast school who had spent more than ten years
exploring this "cave" and who had now formed an expedition to go below the
underground river deep inside where he was certain the cave continued. 
The project was partially funded by NASA and DoD because they were going
to use scuba-like suits that could reclaim some of the air.
	Reading this article made my pulse climb and blood pressure rise
because this is a truly exciting thing!  What a wonderful thing on a
planet that has so few unexplored places left.
	My question is:  Has anyone heard anything else about this
expedition, was it successful?  Or, anything else?

	If you know, please send me e-mail (at least) to 
		n9248086@henson.cc.wwu.edu

Thanks!



Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: deer whistles
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:51:58 GMT


I started using deer whistles after an old friend who's a motorcyclist
recommended them.  His observation is that, without whistles, deer would
feed calmly as he approached them, then startle about the time the
headlights reached them and run one way or another.  After he and his
riding friends installed deer whistles (following a fatality when
a motorcyclist and a deer collided at speed on the highway and the
motorcyclist died) -- they noticed a very different response from the
deer -- the deer would visibly prick up their ears, raise their heads
and look toward the oncoming whistle, at a considerable distance, and
then amble rather slowly out of the bike's path.

The ones I got make an audible, high-pitched tone above about 30 mph.
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Subject: Re: Cooking in the Wild
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:34:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.173314.10877@sarah.albany.edu> rw9601@gemini writes:
>In a post in rec.food.cooking (I think), this group was mentioned as a
>source of camping recipes.  Apparantly there was a compiled file at some
>
>point that is available somewhere?  I don't know how to fnd it, though,
>and would be grateful is someone would tell me or mail me a copy.

Sorry about the "me too" posting but, please, me too?  (I tried
to email rw9601@gemini but it bounced back to me)

Thanks,
Julie
DISCLAIMER:  All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Need Expedition Weight Long Johns
Summary: Re: Need Expedition Weight Long Johns
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:44:33 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu


try R.E.I.    


Coz
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Light Weight Back Packing?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:13:12 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <1k4l4sINNp6p@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, dickman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Bob Dickman) writes:


> I've been toying with the idea of making 3-season shelter out of a Gore-Tex
> bivy sack (REI Cyclops?), thermarest, and then using whatever polypro clothing
> you normally carry for warmth. 

In that case, ditch the bivy sack in favor of a really good rain suit, and
sleep in that.  Another 1.5 lbs (.75 kg) and $150 saved.  

One comfort alternative to a Thermarest is to find a sandy or leafy bed site 
and make 2 shallow depressions where hips and shoulders go.  Then you
can get the same comfort level with a Ridgerest closed-cell pad, save
another .5 lb (.25 kg) and about $30.

And for all you non-impact flamers, I said *sandy* bed site.

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			 
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Marc Gabriel)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: New listserv group - LymeNet
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:51:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

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Unfortunately, many in the medical and political arenas have not given this
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However, as the number of cases rise, doctors on the front lines are
discovering that LD is more serious that previously suspected, requiring longer
treatment therapies and more complex combinations of medicines.  The battle
lines have been drawn.

And the battles continue at LD conferences, and in the various State
legislatures where insurance companies, terrified at the high cost of LD, are
attempting to short change patients.  Estimates show that the average cost of
treatment for chronic LD patients ranges from $60,000 to $100,000 per patient.

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Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph)
Subject: Re: define adventure
Originator: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments / Attleboro Mass / USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:54:54 GMT


Does anyone remember that this all started when someone asked about climbing Mt.
Washington in the winter?  (I find such exercises more fun than paddling on a
smooth river etc, but then we are all needed to make a world!)
-- 

Regards.
 
Don Rolph  a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: kiravuo@hut.fi (Timo Kiravuo)
Subject: Re: deer whistles
Reply-To: kiravuo@hila.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Computing Center
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:10:30

In article <93019.141656DCW1@psuvm.psu.edu> Denise Wagner <DCW1@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Has anyone ever tried the ultrasonic whistles available to keep
>deer from running in front of your car?  I suspect they are
>something like the mosquito repel lers that don't work.

I think that these were sold in Finland five or ten years ago.
After a couple of articles in leading car magazines that
basically said "A great idea to make money, why didn't we think
of it first?" they disappeared. 

The newest thing here is a box with a magnet in it that you
attach to your fuel line. The magnet changes the molecular
structure of the fuel and gets you a better mileage... Costs only
about 100 USD.

In the denser southern Finland deers (elk?) are kept off the
roads with fences of varying kinds, from chicken wire to
glittering reflectors. It does help somewhat, but not completely.
The best way seems to be adjusting your speed to the visibility.
I.e. don't drive too fast.
--
Timo Kiravuo, kiravuo@hut.fi
Helsinki University of Technology, Computer Center, Finland
From: mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Marc Gabriel)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Avoid Lyme Disease: Go naked?
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:49:45 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Peter Silsbee (psilsbee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan27.160725.18432@ra.msstate.edu> dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (
Donald R. Newcomb) writes:
: >deer tics do not tend to bite people at
: >nudist camps but do bite the same people when not at the camp. He
: >theorizes that the tics like to get under the clothing where they
: >are protected.
: I have gotten several ticks on my back while working shirtless outdoors.
: Perhaps the key is _total_ nudity. Are ticks prudish?

I would not bet my health on this *theory*.  Has this theory been put to the
test?  Has the researcher visited nudest camps and inspected the bodies?

Sounds like a feeble theory to me.

-Marc.

-- 
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From: martin_s@sn3009.oldham.gpsemi.com (Martin Shelley)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.climbing
Subject: Re: Bull Fighting (was A-word)
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:51:49 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors


Just to continue the debate about "sports" - try motorcycle racing for
injuries, especially at Grand Prix level. Kevin Schwantz regularly seems
to ride with a broken wrist/arm/collar bone etc and he's not the only one.

Great fun.
	 
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.video
From: gey@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (gerald.e.yingling)
Subject: Re: Outdoor Video/Photography
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:39:48 GMT
Followup-To: poster

In article <1julrtINN7oe@hp-col.col.hp.com>, chrism@col.hp.com (Chris Magnuson) writes:
>   I would like to hear from people about what kinds of filtration, etc. are
> needed on a camcorder when photgraphing outdoor scenes with alot of snow 
> and glare.  I am a complete neophyte with regard to photography so any
> advice would be helpful.
> 

When I bought my TR81, I bought a UV? filter recommend by the salesperson
to replace the lens cap - so I have some minor filtering - which is on the
camcorder all the time.  I also have taken the TR81 on skiing trips and
have had no problem with shooting on the slopes wnder all conditions of
temperature, sun, glare etc - other then the obvious - don't shoot into
the sun etc.  I always shoot using full automatic and have some great
videos.
Jerry
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb)
Subject: Avoid Lyme Disease: Go naked?
Originator: dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:07:25 GMT

I just read a UPI article in Clarinet which I will not repost because
it is copyrighted. The gist of it is that a Dr. Henry Feder of the
Univ. of CT has found that deer tics do not tend to bite people at
nudist camps but do bite the same people when not at the camp. He
theorizes that the tics like to get under the clothing where they
are protected. Hence no clothes, no tics, no Lyme disease.

I have about 20 smart remarks to make but I'll save them. :-)
-- 
Donald R. Newcomb              * University of Southern Mississippi
dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu      * (Gulf Park), Computer Science
newcomb@usmcp6.bitnet          * Do not bend, fold, staple or mutilate.
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: rpetty@mu.sim.es.com (Rich Petty)
Subject: Re: Patterns/hints for making clothes?
Reply-To: rpetty@mu.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:18:35 GMT

--
I spoke to a Gore-tex rep. about 2 months ago that told
me that raw material (Gore-tex) was unavailable to the
general public. The reason he game was that seams etc.
had to be sealed by a proprietary method that they 
wanted to control. Was this guy incorrect?





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From: scsykes@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA (scsykes)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Hiking in Southern California and Baja in February
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:30:27 GMT
Organization: NCR Canada Ltd. Mississauga, Ontario
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I'll be in San Diego from Feb.6 to Feb.27 and hope to do 
some hiking there. I'm looking for both day and overnight
trips.
I expect I'll also be making a trip down to the Baja - just
into southern Baja near Muleje/Mulege(sp?).
Any info anyone could provide or to simply point me somewhere
for info would be greatly appreciated.

Post or e-mail - either - both - whatever.

-Jack
From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Light Weight Back Packing?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:59:56 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <122440230@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller) writes:
>I've been intrigued by this as well. It seems like 20 pounds for two nights
>oughta be possible if 
>
> 1) you forego *all* non-necessities, e.g. "comforts"

One such "comfort" that is often overlooked is the modern high-tech
yuppie back-pack.  Consider that most, with their elaborate pockets,
padding, zippers, and adjustable straps, weight at least five pounds.
That leaves only fifteen or fewer pounds to work with.  Try to fit
everything in a simple light-weight day-pack.
>
> 2) you restrict your ability to cope with contingencies (e.g. bad weather)
>
What contingencies?  If something goes wrong, walk back to the car.

The only contingencies I ever seem to have problems with are noisy
obnoxious people, and rangers telling me I can't camp/bivy where I want.

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
From: alpope@skids.Eng.Sun.COM (Alan L. Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Heavy Weight Backpacking (was Re: Light We
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:38:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: alpope@skids.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: skids

>What are the unusual (and RARELY USED) items people carry when they
>go *heavy* weight backpacking?  

Steaks and Champagne (i.e., deluxe non-dehydrated fully-certified food!).


---
			Alan Pope <alan.pope@Eng.Sun.COM>
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Info on Whisper Lite Stoves
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:14:09 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <1993Jan20.040707.8831@Princeton.EDU>, sjain@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sanjay Jain) writes:

> i don't know if the
> MSR's etc. require you to change the generator (or anything else) every
> time you use a different fuel - the apex does. this is probably not a
> big deal, since you're likely to use the same fuel on any given trip,
> but be warned that the generator changing requires one to essentially
> take the stove apart. you can use white gas on the apex (which is what
> we did), and it works fine, but given that the kerosene option appears
> to be harder than anticipated, i'm unsure that it was worth the extra
> cash... do the other stoves have these problems? regards. 

On the other hand, Coleman hasn't been advertising the Apex as a multi-fuel 
stove, though it is...

Other stoves generally do need different generators.  I suppose it depends on 
the relative volatility, viscosity, and all around gunki-ness of the fuel 
familiy.   Note that a kerosene generator may also work for such delightful 
fuels as automotive diesel and home heating oil, though Coleman may not 
say so the way MSR does.

Why kerosene?  It's far more available in the third world than white 
gasoline (naptha), and its lower volatility means a lower risk of your face 
getting burned off or your gear burned up.  It used to be a lot cheaper than
white gasoline.  The lower volatility also means spills won't evaporate and 
you have to do a better job priming.  Most people loath the smell, but
for me it brings back childhood memories of Grandma's farm....

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Looking for TS-130S/SE
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:19:43 GMT

Looking for a Kenwood TS-130S or SE.  Used mobile OK.  If it's a bit beat
up, that's OK too, as long as it works.  :)
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177
1935 will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized nation has
full gun registration.  Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient,
and the world will follow our lead into the future.  --Adolf Hitler
From: johnh@countach.pen.tek.com (John A. Hammond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: For sale: Tektronics 2235. 100 MHZ scope
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:26:43 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1993Jan22.134208.1279@mala.bc.ca> peon@mala.bc.ca (DOMINIQUE PEON) writes:
>For sale : Tektronics 2235. 100Mhz dual oscilloscope.
>Like new, lees than 100 hours, with 10:1 leads, screen cover and pouch.
>CDN$2000.00


Don't you mean a Tektronix (not Tektronics) scope?
                         ^
                         |
                         |

John 
WB7ODP
From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: More For Sale
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:31:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com


Contrary to popular belief, I am not getting out of ham radio.
I just have a surplus of equipment and a new, equally expensive
hobby to deal with (electronic music).


Therefore I have:

Icom  SM-10  Graphic Equalizer / Compressor Desk Microphone

	This was arguably Icom's best mic ever.  Includes a
	5 band EQ and 3 selectable levels of compression.  It
	has a VU meter built in as well as an Up/Down channel
	selector switch and and Electronic PTT lock.

	Yours for $100 - shipping included


Kenwood UT-28  28 MHz Band Unit for the TM-741A

	This is the 50 Watt 10 meter unit for the TM-741.  Has a
	fairly wideband receiver which works from about 24 MHz to 
	nearly 50 MHz and includes an AM detector.  Does a
	splendid job on 10M FM.  Does not do SSB.

	The unit is in new condition and less than 2 months old.
	I recently paid $269 for it at HRO.

	Yours for $200 - shipping included.


If interested call or e-mail Fred at:

	(602) 275-4242   (work)
	(602) 483-2036   (home)


-- 
[ Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ                             Fred.Lloyd@West.Sun.COM ]
[ Sun Microsystems,           Southwest Area Solaris Transition Manager ]
[ Phoenix, AZ                                            (602) 275-4242 ]
From: scott@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Turner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:15:13 GMT
Subject: Wanted:  Drake RV-3 *or* MS-4
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap

Looking for the following equipment in good working condition and
reasonably priced:

	Drake RV-3 Remote VFO
	       *or*
	Drake MS-4 Speaker & Cabinet

I do *not* need or want the AC-3 power supply which can be mounted in
either of these cabinets.

Contact:

Scott Turner  scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
From: Paul.Anderson@f60.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Anderson)
Sender: postmaster@eilc.fidonet
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Where to find cheap scnr
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:48:10 -0500

DAMARK's latest catalog lists an inexpensive scanner which will cover
the repeater bands you mentioned.  It's the Bearcat BC-560XLT, "factory-
serviced."  They want $69.99, and the shipping is included.  Their 800
number is 1-800-729-9000.

I'd imagine these units came back for repair, and Bearcat just replaced
them, then repaired these and is selling them.  Looks like a good deal.

73, de Paul AB4VA (packet @ N5AUV.#MLB.FL)


 * Origin: E.I.L.C. BBS: Source For Information! 407-676-2998 (1:374/60)
From: miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Color Camera Wanted, Light & Cheap-Defects OK, Suggestions Wanted
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:58:53 GMT
Organization: University of Texas
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
X-XXMessage-ID: <A784867673069F2B@mac33.util.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:57:26 GMT

I am looking for a very small, lightweight  color TV camera, to send up
suspended from a kite. I know that low-cost high-quality midget b&w
cameras are readily available ($205, tel. 800-221-2240, as per January 73
magazine), but am hoping to find a cheap color one.

I don!t mind if it has defects, like a burned spot or two. Don!t need a
camcorder, just a camera.

Does anyone know where to find such a device?

Any ideas on how to find units rejected by the manufacturer due to a bad
pixel or two?
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From: re_sims@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,misc.forsale
Subject: ATT: Monte Bateman@Jupiter.NMT.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:43:32 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

Monte,

   Have been unable to get the 
following message to you!

Jim N4JDP










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CC:	
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 ----Mail status follows----
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Date: 23 Jan 93 10:22:00 EST
From: "Rebecca Sims" <RE_SIMS@vax.cns.muskingum.edu>
Subject: Re: REPOST, lower $, Servicemanuals
To: "bateman" <bateman@jupiter.nmt.edu>

Monte,

   Hi, add $2.90 for 1st class shipping, 

   My address:

		James K. Sims
		P.O. Box 221
		New concord, Ohio 43762
		(614) 439-2177

    Thanks

73

Jim N4JDP at:

re_sims@vax.cns.muskingum.edu


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