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From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Faery Rings
Date: 9 OCT 92 15:15:27 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

In a previous article, RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) wrote:
>> In article <13760019@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, suew@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Sue Wood) writes:
>> > A friend of mine calls the doggie-induced brown spots on the lawn 
>> > "faery-rings". I don't know if that's a common term or not, but
>> > I get a giggle out of it.   The term that is; the dead grass is
>> > not all that funny. 
>doggie-pee does something to the pH of the soil that some grass species don't
>tolerate well.  If you wanted to get real scientific about it, you could test
>the pH of the soil (various places in the yard) & then go to a local
>yard&garden center or seed&feed coop (depending on how urban yr place is) & see
>if you could find a grass seed more suited to the naturally & doggie-induced pH

	I think I've found one of the better answers to this problem-I
posted it a while ago.  Try sprinkling lime on the affected area.  We lime
our whole lawn lightly at the correct time but then sort of spot treat the
brown areas.  Sometimes we get really tall green green grass growing in a
circle around the brown spot:-).  Also try poking the area witha screw-
driver (or rough it up with a garden claw) and water heavily.  Urine is
usually somewhat acidic(peoples is anyway) and the lime is basic.  The 
idea is to neutralize it.  My hubby and I are arguing though over which
really causes the brown spots.  We get green and brown areas- I thought the
green was from poop and brown from urine.  Urine also has a lot of nitrogen
though so he says thats what turns the grass green.  Yes this is what two
maried chemists argue about at night...urp.  I guess what we need to do
is train our dogs to take a dump on the brown spots and to pee on the green
ones (or vice versa) huh.

any ideas???
Bev(Wash U med school, the one in St. Louis)
From: U58664@uicvm.uic.edu (Francine Cannarozzi)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dogs in Pick Up Trucks AGAIN
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:37:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

I know everyone on this board is a responsible pet owner, but I just have
to voice my opinion about the _other_ idiot people who aren't.

I was walking Beast this morning.  We live in Chicago, definately an
'urban' area.  On a busy street, I saw a pick up truck FLY by.
In the back bed was a large, black lab.  The dog was not
restrained in any way at ALL.  He was roaming around the bed, and as
they passed us, and I could tell the dog was trying to brace himself
against the movement of the truck to keep his balance.  It was a large
dog and the sides of the truck bed hardly topped his legs. Traffic
was busy, and this guy was going WAY to fast, with or without a dog.

HOW STUPID! One quick stop or swerve to avoid a pot hole, and that dog
was destined for disaster.  I cannot believe the contempt that person
obviously has for his dog's safety and well being.  It was an accident
waiting to happen. I was really upset and yelled at the guy, but of course
he never heard me at all.  What can be done about ignorant, non-deserving
dog owners like that???

I'd like to add, that we also own a pick up truck.  Beast loves to go for
rides, and he rides in the cab with us.  The only time I ever allow him
to be in the bed is WITH me, leashed, sitting down at all times,
in nice weather, and for very very short trips when my husbands runs
errands.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: steve_olson@NPD.NOVELL.COM
Subject: Austrailian Terrier 
Reply-To: steve_olson@npd.novell.com
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:38:19 GMT

Are there any Australian Terrier owners out there? 

Do these dogs shed? How are they as house pets around
children?

Will they kill rabbits or chase sheep?

Thanks.

SteveO
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:49:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamvm1.1687FA665.CBARNES
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Oct13.162656.28590@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
   bobd@marune.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob DeBula) writes:
 
>In article <6730.83.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us> kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)  writes:
>>A 2yr old can climb a chain link fence,
 
Really?  None of my 3 kids could when they were 2!  Or even 3!
 
BTW:  I forgot to mention that there is also a single strand of
electric fence about 9" above the chain link (purpose being to keep
the dogs in, not intruders out).  I doubt a child of upto even 6
could get by that without being shocked (not severlly, just enough
to get their attention - I know, I've gotten bit by it  :-o   ).
 
 
>> but does not have the capacity to
>>determine if a situation is dangerous or not. A mentally handicaped
>>child can climb a fence, but again does not have the mental capacity to
>>know if the situation is dangerous. If in either of these situations the
>>child is bitten, in the State of Texas you will be held responsible, and
>>your dogs will be killed for protecting your home. You need to decide if
>>it is worth it.
>>
>
>Laws of this type tend to irk me. If the dogs got loose and went
>after the child out in public or in the childs' yard, then I would
>agree. This type of law allows no leeway for extenuating circumstances.
>
>But, in the given examples, where are the *parents*? Why aren't *they*
>held responsible for inadequate supervision of a toddler or mentally
>handicapped child? It would seem to me that the parents are the ones being
>criminally neglient in either of the above examples (after all
>they should know more about the childs handicaps or problems
>than anyone else). I realize you are not necessarily claiming
>agreement with the law you mentioned, so please do not consider this
>a flame of you or your post.
 
 
Well said Bob.
 
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                        |  She had 10 pups....5 male & 5 female
From: steve@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Pet Population Legislation
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:47:59 MDT

In article <1992Oct6.230756.5711@pony.Ingres.COM>, jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes:
> r hardin writes:
>> Well, for example, the humane societies around me specifically
>> do not train, and refuse even an offer of training,
>> because, as the head explained, it's a waste of time.
> 
> Yep, that proves it!  Humane societies oppose training!
> 
> Of course, even assuming we believe you.  One of the disadvantages of
                           ^^
> getting a reputation for indifference to the facts, you see, is people
> stop believing you.
> 
>> Second, they don't find them homes, they kill them.
> 
> Care to provide names of the societies and produce data on their
> adoption records?
> 
> Then, since we're not fools, we'll believe you when we can verify your
              ^^^^^            ^^^^^                  ^^
> claims independently.
> 
> Then, if it proves to be the case, we'll ask what you're doing about
                                     ^^^^^
> it.  Humane societies have no monopoly on shelters.  What shelters
> have you founded or are you running, supporting, or volunteering at?
> 
> -- Jon
> --
> Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com 


I don't want to get into this flame war because I know nothing about the issue
but I am curious as to who you speaking for when you say "we"?

-Steve
From: rnt@drutx.ATT.COM (Diane Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Stool-Eating (yuk)
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:10:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: drutx.21263
Organization: AT&T -- 1200 W. 120th Street, Westminster Colorado



Re:  Ruth Ginzberg's dog eating cat/racoon/etc. 
     tootsie rolls. 

Let your dog eat them.  My dog gets horribly
nauseous whenever I change her dog food, 
yet she seems to thrive on cat and coyote turds.  
I've given up prying them from her mouth - now
I just gag and let her eat them.

If it causes problems for dogs, I'd be interested
to know.  My dog is eight years old and in perfect
health - and I couldn't begin to tell you how
much of that crap (literally) she's eaten.  There's
a spot right outside our front porch that the 
neighborhood cats use as a dumping ground.  She
always manages to make a beeline for that spot
before I can stop her.

Don't pay any attention to the advice in that book.
One thing I've learned about dogs is that if it's
scummy, slimy, bad-smelling, or disgusting: your 
dog will love it.  

Diane Thomas
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From: jms@queenb.unh.edu (Judi M. Strauss)
Subject: dying: a message for Aki
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:34:36 GMT

Aki-

I'm so sorry for your loss - as time goes by the good memories
will make the edges of your pain less raw - I've recently lost
my mother and there is one simple little statement that I like
to think about - it helps me cope:

To live in the hearts of those that we leave behind is not to die.......

And something else, you gave Major a very special gift - you loved him
so much that you were able to set him free from suffering - there is no
greater gift - it requires your putting his welfare above everything else -
that is the most selfless and generous thing a person can do.

Judi
From: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Was this a voilation?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


When in doubt, call for the rep.  He can always give you a quick answer
on the spot.

dana
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From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:31:43 GMT


I've heard that tail-chaising is a result of being confined.  Don't know
if that's true, though.
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Pet Population Legislation
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:20:38 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Marget Johnson writes:
> "BUYER agrees to return this Newfoundland to BREEDER if, for any reason,
> BUYER
> cannot keep it. BUYER further agrees to provide this Newfoundland's AKC
> registration certificate, transferred to BREEDER, when this Newfoundland is
> returned to BREEDER for placement. BREEDER agrees to place this
> Newfoundland
> in a new home and give BUYER any payment received for the resale of this
> Newfoundland, less the cost of any veterinarian and boarding expenses
> should
> this Newfoundland be with BREEDER for a period longer than 2 weeks. BREEDER
> will furnish receipts of placement period expenses to BUYER."


This is a really great sort of idea, I really wish every breeder would do
this sort of thing. Here's a variation from my pug's breeder which I like
better in some ways: she has right of first refusal written into her
contract. To me this is more fair than expecting the dog to be given back to
the breeder no matter what, because it allows that if the breeder knows and
trusts the buyer well enough, the buyer may be able to place the dog in a new
home with a friend or relative for example, provided the breeder gives
consent. Of course if the breeder doesn't know the buyer is responsible and
capable of finding the dog an acceptable new home, she still can take the dog
back as you do with your contract.

>
> "In the case of a breach of any of the terms of this contract by BUYER,
> BUYER
> shall pay to BREEDER the amount of $1,000."


So how enforcable ARE these types of contacts? Have you ever heard of cases
where breeders have taken buyers to court for contract breeches, and what the
results were? I'd really like to hear some stories about how well these sorts
of contracts work!

One reason I mention this is 'cos of a personal experience. I knew a person
who adopted a dog from the SPCA, signed the "I will spay." papers and
expressed to me his intentions to breed this unsuitable dog. I fully intended
to report him if he did, but fortunately she was eventually spayed for health
reasons. I've heard of other similar cases.


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or:      a4080@mindlink.bc.ca         Until I met a man who had no feet.
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From: micki@novell.com (Michelle Duncan)
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:44:26 GMT

In article <1asgbdINNf9i@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley) writes:

>I encourage my friends to not guess at breeds but to just ask, "what
>breed is this?"   I find it much less annoying to just have someone ask
>than to wait until they guess.  I also do this for breeds I don't recognize.

Even this sometimes doesn't work.  When I'm out with my in-laws
collie, Patches, I'm often asked what she is.  She is a fully
registered collie - BUT shes a blue merle smooth.  When I tell people
shes a collie the standard response is "Well!  She looks NOTHING like
Lassie!"

Sheesh...


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From: suew@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Sue Wood)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:25:21 GMT
Subject: Faery Rings
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

A friend of mine calls the doggie-induced brown spots on the lawn 
"faery-rings". I don't know if that's a common term or not, but
I get a giggle out of it.   The term that is; the dead grass is
not all that funny.

So .... does anyone know a good solution to this problem.  I suspect this
is better asked in a gardening notesgroup, but this group surely has had
some experience with this.

We planted sod this summer in the back yard especially for the dog.  So the fact
that she urinates on the lawn is just the way it is.  I don't begrudge her
that.  I'm just wondering if there's any good practice to minimize the
dead grass problem: short but frequent watering?, soaking the spots? 
special fertilizer?

Thanks for any help

Sue Wood
suew@sr.hp.com
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From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: show "trophies"
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:35:48 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <Bw14rx.J1z@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pgarnier@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Philip Garnier) writes:
> Can anyone out there help me?  I have recently been appointed the trophy
> chairman of the Great Lakes Border Terrier Club trophy committee (actuall,
> I AM the committee, and need suggestions as to what to offer for the four
> show that we will support in the next year.  We plan to offer trophies in
> five categories:  BOB, BOS, Winners' Dog, Winners' Bitch, and high Border
> in obedience.

> Philip Garnier


I know that Dana Massey asked for ideas for trophies several weeks ago 
on r.p.d. -- I'm sure she's now compiled a humongous list of suggestions
and would be happy to send them to you! :-)

Holly
From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Tracking & Ants
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:28:16 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu

In article <1992Oct10.223656.24831@news.unomaha.edu> massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey) writes:
>So this post won't really answer any questions, but I saw a cartoon 
>on a T-shirt sold by a company called The Santa Fe Connection owned
>by Kay Pena--
>
>the picture is a dog (GSD) following footprints wearing a tracking
>harness and a lead--the balloon over the dog's head had a giant
>hotdog wearning hiking boots, carrying flags and a clipboard and 
>taking giant steps
>
>I thought it was a riot, but I'm sure it loses something in the
>written line.
>

I think it's hilarious!  My Corgi loved tracking from the first day.  You
get to go out for a long walk in the country, and then you get HOTDOGS!!!
What could be better than that???

  :-)  :-)  :-)






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From: ahanson@boi.hp.com (Angela Hanson)
Subject: Re: Boise Dog Show
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:03:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Anne Beck (abb@unislc.uucp) wrote:
: Is anyone on the net going to be at the Boise, Idaho shows this
: week?  Let me know.  I'd love to meet any of you who might be there.
: My Newf and I will be trying to complete her CDX!  Keep your
: fingers crossed for us.
: -- 
:    Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
:    abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
:    Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
: 			        | prominent positions in the community.


My husband and I will be showing our two Bernese Mountain Dogs
there.  I love Newfs.  It may be partly because Bernese have
some Newf in them.

Angie
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From: mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Re: Rottweilers
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.011841.10602@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>This may sound a strange question, but I'll try and be as clear as possible. 
>
>Are there certain phenotypes that a first-time dog owner should try to match
>between he and his prospective dog?  Phenotypes being certain physical
>characteristics.  Any other sorts of 'traits' to match?   
>
>In other words, do certain dogs go with certain kinds of people?  Or is it
>safest to bank on a mut and maybe get the best of two (or more :])worlds?
>
>			-Matt


Matt,

I suppose it depends on whether or not you consider behavior to be a
phenotype.  Temperment (sp?), as the breeders in this group will be
sure to tell you, is something that a good breeder strives for (I 
guess I should be specific and say a GOOD temperment).  Certain lines
of dogs will have certain tendencies for certain behaviors.  Is this
because of a genetic trait (phenotype) or because of similar environ-
ment?  Not something that will be answered here but probably both.
Otherwise, how much different are the physical traits like heighth
and width within a certain breed going to be?  Not much within reasonable
limitations.  Try to decide what type of breed you like (Rottweiler
maybe) and go and talk with a reputable breeder.  You can ask them
all sorts of questions about the genetics of the breed and what to 
expect, within reason, from that kind of dog.  Otherwise, from a first
approximation, a dog is a dog (speaking from a totally physical stand-
point and within one breed; temperment and psychological health are
a whole other thing).

			--Michael Buening
			internet:mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu
From: shao@sybase.com (Brad Shao)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: dog resistant lawns?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:39:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

Does anyone know if there is a known hybrid of lawn grass that is more
resistant to animal urine?  Maybe the public parks use this variety.
My two dogs have successfully browned out the backyard and I'm going to 
replant to prevent their yard becoming a muddy tract this winter.

Thanx in advance,
brad
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Conformation vs. Confirmation (was Re: Dog & Protection)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:03:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <1687E953E.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu
(Chris Barnes) wrote:

> So group, which is it?  (IMHO, Conformation still makes more since!)
>  


CONFORMATION !!
       ^^

Although if any of my dogs care to go through confirmation class at <insert
name 
of any Catholic Church here> they are more than welcome to do so........I
wonder 
what the bishop would say about it though :-) !!!!

Kathy
-------------------
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Rottweilers
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:32:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.162412.10315@iti.org>, jag@iti.org (Jacqueline A. Giles) writes:
> Rottwilers tend to be around $800. here in Michigan for a half-way
> decent bred pet.

Damn!  The most expensive one I've ever seen in the (Ohio) Columbus Dispatch is
about $500!?!  Whassup with that?  Would I be asking for problems if I bought
one of those?   

			-matt
From: linda@frcs.Alt.ZA (Linda Jacobson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Hypo-thyroid Springer
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:25:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: frcs.1992Oct10.212528.17623
Organization: Onderstepoort School of Veterinary Science, University of Pretoria

Thus spake leary@gyramax.rtp.dg.com (Vicki Leary):

> My four-year-old male (neutered) Springer spaniel was recently
> diagnosed with having a hypo-thyroid condition, which may explain
> the [..] recent lymph system infection which produced a huge
> goiter-type reaction. 

You're a bit vague about this - did the dog specifically have an
enlarged thyroid? One or both sides? Is it still enlarged or has it
returned to normal size? Goiter and lymphangitis/lymphadenitis
shouldn't be related.

>  The vet is recommending
> that we correct the dog's condition with hormone therapy to endure
> for the rest of the dog's life.  I hesitate to commit to this.
> I thought I'd seek your opinions before discussing with the vet.

_IF_ the dog is hypothyroid, the only therapy is what your vet has
recommended, and it works extremely well. If you are unsure about the
diagnosis, you will need to find out exactly which test your vet used
and what values she/he obtained, and confirm that the test really was
positive (they aren't always 100% straightforward to interpret).

Most hypothyroidism in dogs is caused either by lymphocytic
thyroiditis, which is an inflammatory condition that causes
destruction of the thyroid; or by thyroid atrophy, where the gland
just wastes away - to find out which, a biopsy would be needed, and
most people don't bother because the treatment is the same regardless.
Occasionally, a non-functional tumour of the thyroid is responsible
for destroying enough tissue to cause hypothyroidism (so if there _is_
an enlargment of that area, it might be what you are dealing with). In
that case, the tumour itself needs to be addressed. 

> Sam, the Springer, is not lethargic in the least; in fact, true to 
> his Springer ways, is quite the opposite--hyperactive.  Sam seems happy
> though frustrated by persistent itchy ears.  Ideas?

Hypothyoidism is a frustrating disease to diagnose precisely because
it manifests in so many different ways. It's useful when the dog shows
classical signs, but if it shows non-classical signs, this doesn't
mean you can assume it _doesn't_ have the condition.

Hope this helps.

Linda
 
       
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