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From: mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Dual Citizenship
Followup-To: soc.culture.usa
Date: 6 Jan 1993 02:20:01 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@inti (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.82

Roadster Racewerks writes:
>[Story about young person with dual citizenship forced to relinquish
> other citizenship]
>If they've now changed the rule (this was 20 years ago) he must feel very
>cheated....  :-(

I believe this is correct -- 20 years ago, the US actively opposed
dual citizenship.  I have a friend who pretty much could repeat
your story (except his other country is a Latin American state).
I don't know when and why the US stopped being so difficult about
this but I have been repeatedly reassured by State Dep't people &
by those who have dual citizenship that it is no problem at all now.
From: anders@deakin.OZ.AU (Vercingetorix)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Any Celtic Conferences due this year??
Date: 11 Jan 1993 03:46:23 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Victoria, Australia
Distribution: world
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dear folx,

some net-shy colleagues of mine are interested in finding out what (if any)
conferences on celtic issues are scheduled this year, anywhere in the world.

if u reply, please post the response 4 everyone rather than thru email.

slan,  andre.

ps---- big *hello!* to Rody Gorman from Sabhal Mor Ostaig if anyone from the
       college is reading this.  from kerry, cliff and i.

====================================
--
"she's on another planet/ she's in my dream/ she's some kinda angel/
 if u know what i mean/ try her on an' she fits like a glove/
 too bad she only thinx about the lord above/ evangeline/ i think i love u..."
 ==============anders@deakin.oz.au -- all pagan rites reserved================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.british
From: dml@philabs.philips.com (Damian M. Lyons)
Subject: Re: This Favorite Lie Again.
Originator: dml@rabbit
Organization: Autonomous Systems, Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:36:40 GMT


In article <1993Jan6.101550.6899@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
|> 
|> But this is precisely what has been done. The British
|> government unilaterally closed down Northern Ireland's devolved
|> government, and won't restore it until the Unionists agree to a
|> power-sharing system. The British government has unilaterally
|> introduced proportional representation into local elections
|> there (pity they haven't in the rest of the UK) to avoid the
|> distortions and gerrymandering that can occur under the
|> first-past-the-post system. What else do you expect them to do
|> - give every Catholic two votes?

No, just give slightly more democratic muscle to the Nationalist
block. I suggest the British Government design and unlaterally
implement a devolved government for NI in which the Nationalist
block is not hamstrung by a purpose-built Unionist majority which can
collapse any government it doesn't like. 

The objective of the design will be to ensure that the moderate
elements on both sides of the issue are allowed to work together and
to operate the government. Here's one idea: a 2-chambered government
consisting of two equipotent houses, one of which has a constitutional
Unionist majority and and one a constitutional Nationalist majority.

I am aware that this 'special status' for Nationalists goes against
the `one-man-one-vote' credo; however, I would argue that coralling
.6 million nationalists into a state designed specifically to have an
overwhelming unionist majority kicked that credo out the window
already. We must now rectify that error while avoiding trampling
the rights of the Unionist population in like manner.

Damian.

On a different track altogether:
It occurs to me that if NI really consisted of all of Ulster rather than
just 6 counties, then the balance would be much more stable. Perhaps 
the 26 counties should consider this as a `gambit'.


-- 
_________________________________________________________________
         Damian M. Lyons | x6444 | dml@philabs.philips.com       
_________________________________________________________________
From: jmm@scarabz.Corp.Sun.COM (John Morrison)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Culloden - game based on it maybe???
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:26:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jmm@scarabz.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: scarabz.corp.sun.com




Greetings,

     I was wondering if anyone has heard of a game adaptation of the famous/
infamous battle/fiasco of Culloden.  The complexity level that I am hoping for
is something that is hex based, although any information would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks

John Morrison
john.morrison@corp.sun.com
From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Accents
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:10:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>Gruesome fact: I read in the paper this week that the Yorkshire education
>authority was making a policy of punishing kids for speaking their local
>dialect in school as recently as 1983.  Presumably this is *still* going
>on unofficially all over the UK.
>
I seem to recall that what this actually refers to is an
attempt to stamp on the northern version of tutoyering.

The problem was not that the kids were using "thee", but that
theye were using it to refer to their teachers, which
apparently is disrespectful in the same way as it would be to
use "tu" in French is a social situation where "vous" would be
the correct respectful term.

I presume you are not referring to the recurrent attempts to
stamp out various forms of address on the grounds of political
correctness.

Matthew Huntbach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: cicic@cc.uow.edu.au (muris cicic)
Subject: Re: Can Geneva bring peace?
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 02:00:33 GMT

I only want to express my gratitude with the fact that there are people
around who recognise and define B&H situation with such high accuracy.  Read
Robert's posting carefully, and you would understand all aspects of problem.

In the same time, it is refreshing to finally acknowledge there is someone
on the West to accept our right to survive, defend ourselves, and live
peacefully as citizen, and not as a ethnic creatures.  I believe that for
the majority of Bosnians is more bitter to handle a bundle of prepotent,
paternalist Westerners, with their lectures for victims about how to behave
while being killed and raped, than to cope with Serbs, for whom we know what
to do.  

Muris
From: damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Happy as pigs in...
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 22:53:43 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) writes:

> In today's St. Louis Post-Dispatch, there is a cartoon editorializing
> the recent entente between Serbia and Russia.  It shows two outhouses
> lying tipped over, one labelled "Yugoslavia" and the other labelled
> "U.S.S.R."  From the pits beneath the outhouses peer two pigs, one
> labelled "Serbs" and the other "Commies", looking at each other with
> little fluttering hearts of love all around them.
> 
> I thought it was terribly rude.
> 
> Victor
> -- 
> Prof. M. Victor Wickerhauser                      <victor@kirk.wustl.edu>
> Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
> Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
> Sto se ljuckim trudom uzdignulo, Ljuckim znojem jopet se ponavlja. --Medo Puc


Personaly, I thought is was perfect!  


Damir


--
damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247, v32bis. Home of Infoplus.
From: ar3@cove.cis.ufl.edu (Aleksander Rapisavljevic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Democracy
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:51:23 GMT
Reply-To: ar3@cove.cis.ufl.edu (Aleksander Rapisavljevic)
Organization: U of Florida. Computer Science Dept.


 (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
|> Here I have to object. Please describe in what ways you think Slovenia
|> if far away from any democracy and just laws. Yes, Slovenia is not as
|> prosperous as it used to be, but so is no Eastern European or ex-Soviet 
|> country today. And Slovenia seems to be doing better than most of them.
|> 

Let me correct this a bit:  
   Slovenia is already doing better than in last 3-4 years under
Yugoslavia.  Comparing to couple of thousand percent inflation
rate in Yugo Slovenian inflation is stabilized. Average monthly
salary is higher, Slovenian currency "Tollar" kept its value
against German mark since independance and above all Slovenia
is not financing Serbian army any more.

Aleksander Radisavljevic
  
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 15:58:00 CET
From: rade.zonjic@zamir-bg.comlink.de
Reply-To: rade.zonjic@zamir-bg.comlink.de
Distribution: world
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Calling a spade a spade; labelse
Organization: Zamir = for peace, Beograd
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SC> Ana (before):
SC> |The problem, Joe isn't that *I* can't call a spade a spade, but t
SC> |*YOU* have a blind spot when it comes to Croatian leadership. One
SC> |think that, gee, these guys cannot make a mistake ever, reading o
SC> |what you write. I don't see why do you have to defend them (Croat
SC> |leadership) when they certainly are no flowers.
SC> <More>
SC>       
SC> Joe:
SC> >Think hard - when have I explicitly supported Croatian leadership
SC> 
SC> Ana (now):
SC> Well, again, I never said you explicitly supported them, but you
SC> also never explicitly disagreed with them.

Hello, I think the problem with Josip Blazic (a really nice young man
from Toronto) is the very same 'patriotic' problem of many Serbian-Americans
or Croatian-Americans.

If he had ever lived in either Croatia or Serbia he would never have assumed
an apologetic attitude regarding either one leadership. 


Merry Christmas (in Serbian-Orthodox calendar) [Xpuctoc ce pogu!]
All the best for all,
Rade
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: vidra@dutsqq.tudelft.nl
Subject: test
Summary: test
Keywords: test
Organization: TU Delft
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:18:08 GMT


 test, test. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com (Scott Linn)
Subject: Re: Cro/Mo camps
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:16:26 GMT

ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324) writes:
: Yes, I also have heard on BBC, that Mr. Vance at the Belgrade news conference
: on Jan. 6th have brought up the issue of muslim/Cro run concentration camps
: (detention, or POW camps if you insist). There he claimed that the muslim/Cro
: side at this time hold more prisoners  than the Serb side (Do you hear that Tim
: Walker and Scott Linn?).

You can't hold prisoners that are already dead, can you Daniel?  Perhaps
that is why the Serbs are holding fewer prisoners?

Also, there is nothing wrong with holding prisoners of war.  It is
considerably better than murdering them.

: Apparently, Mr. Vance was greately concerned with
: the muslim run camp on the outskirts of Sarajevo, where Serb prisoners were
: being held in the GRAIN SILO. Of course, no heat nor hygiene facilities are
: available at the camp.

Of course, no heat or hygiene facilities are available in Sarajevo.  But
does that affect what Daniel thinks?  Of course not.

Scott Linn
scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324)
Subject: Re: Cutting one's own throat
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 03:50:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.012436.6863@hpcvca.cv.hp.com> scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com (Scott Linn) writes:
>: 	Dear, Scott, please go back to your work and to your Croatian
>: 	girlfriend. Having a Cro girlfriend doesn't justify your shoot-em-
	^^^^^^^^^^
>: 	up cowboy behavior against the Serbian people.
>
>1) I don't have any Croatian, Serbian, Muslim, etc. relatives.  This seems
>   to be a Serb way of thinking: if you criticize what I am thinking or
>   doing, you must be Croatian or otherwise have a direct contact.  What
>   hogwash.  This shows closed-minded ethnic thinking.

	Well Scott, I have to give you credit. You are not as big liar as
	your idol Vicky W. is. At least, you did not deny the existence of
	Croatian girlfrend. But, Vicky, the net's one and only world renown
	Goebbels scholar, is a bit trickier than you are: he would not try to
	portray himself as an uninvolved party to the Yugo conflict after
	such a big omission (the girlfriend part).
>
>: p.s.	See, I did not forget you!
>
>A memory like a steel trap.
>
>
>Scott Linn
>scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com

Regards,	DDC.

p.s	Vicky, see, I didn't forget you neither.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.bosna-hercgvna,soc.culture.europe
From: blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R)
Subject: Re: Understanding the Media, by Peter Brock
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:44:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.031922.25759@walter.bellcore.com> ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324) writes:
>In article <C0Ax89.JGz@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
>>Usually it is appropriate to put the author's name and association 
>>at the *beginning* of an article, especially one that is (more than)
>>500 lines long.
>
>	please look at the subject line. What does "Understanding the Media,
>	by Peter Brock" means to you? Everything else is just a retype of
>	Mr. Brocks speach at the convention. (If there are any spelling

How about association/credentials?  Peter Brock, staff writer for UPI, or
NYTimes writer, or what?

/Joe Blazic
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 09:54:00 CET
From: caa_beograd@zamir-bg.comlink.de
Reply-To: caa_beograd@zamir-bg.comlink.de
Distribution: world
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: new address/phone number
Organization: Zamir = for peace, Beograd
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A slight error on the message concerning the change of address
for the Centre for Antiwar Action.  Our international telephone
code is +38, not +34, which is Spain.  Appologies to all!

CAA
From: w0318@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Zagreb Diary inquiry
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:55:37 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Can anyone tell me where Zagreb Diary went, if it in fact is gone?

Thanks,
Andrew Livingston
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: All three ethnic groups signed Vance/Owen peace plan
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:50:14 GMT

pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane) writes:

>Today, around 7 pm European time in Geneva, all three warring parties
>have finally signed the peace plan drawn by Vance and Owen. Bosnia and
>Herzegovina is to be a democratic decentralized country ruled by a
>government with all three ethnic group representatives. 

It is too early to be optimistic. There are reports that Karadzic
will have real trouble selling the agreement to Bosnian Serb
leaders at home and he may just be trying to buy time, and not look 
like the one who refused the peace deal. At best, this will take very 
long to implement and there will be a lot of snags along the way.

>+ Ana M. Shane                    pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu  +

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gu"lu"n kendini islemek icin/ ciragi ya da ustasi yoktur  --hilmi yavuz
From: percus@pnheap.in2p3.fr (Allon Percus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Automobile codes
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:00:37 GMT
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Could someone possibly tell me (preferably by e-mail since I don't
regularly read this group) what the automobile codes are for the
following states:

Slovenia
Croatia
Yugoslavia (Serbia-Montenegro)
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Macedonia

I believe the first three are SLO, HR and YU.  I have no idea about
the final two.

Note that it is the international automobile codes I am looking for,
not the 2-letter or 3-letter ISO codes (these are different).

Thanks very much,
Allon Percus
From: sutin@ra.UCSC.EDU (Brian Sutin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Happy as pigs in...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:03:21 GMT
Organization: Lick Observatory UCSC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ra.ucsc.edu

In article <1id5rpINNmjn@GOLEM.MATH.YALE.EDU> wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) writes:
> In today's St. Louis Post-Dispatch, there is a cartoon editorializing
> the recent entente between Serbia and Russia.  It shows two outhouses
> lying tipped over, one labelled "Yugoslavia" and the other labelled
> "U.S.S.R."  From the pits beneath the outhouses peer two pigs, one
> labelled "Serbs" and the other "Commies", looking at each other with
> little fluttering hearts of love all around them.

Sounds a bit innacurate.  I had heard that the Russian "advisors" in
Serbia were nationalists, and were wearing pre-revolutionary Czarist
uniforms.  Is this rumor or truth?

Brian Sutin				sutin@lick.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
    Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory  Dandulakis)
Subject: Re: Democracy
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:09:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.142108.1821@hibbs.vcu.edu> dlatane@hibbs.vcu.edu (David E. Latane) writes:
>

>The official German policy towards civilians in Belgium as they
>entered World War I was "schrecklichkeit" -- frightfulness. The
>german army committed numerous atrocities that are well documented.
>They were guilty of perhaps 30% of the things that the British
>charged them with in their propaganda campaign, and that was plenty.
>If the Serbs are guilty of 5% of the things that the free press --
>not the propaganda machine of a warring government says, Milosevic
>is a war criminal and should be hung.


Did you know that the official american policy in Philippines in 1903,
during the famous "Pacific Region Expansion", was complete extermination
of those tiny, dark rats? The result: 1,000,000 Philippineses corps were
eaten by the dogs. Still the then American president is one of the "Great
American Heroes".


Gr

PS: Homework for you: 
                       1. Find the name of this american president.
                       2. How is his policy compared to the policy
                          towards native americans.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Madam VW, Bill, Uncle Sam and EC
Keywords: war
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:05:48 GMT

zoran@ee.uts.edu.au (Zoran Markovic) writes:
>>I would hope the US letter implies an immediate response, and not
>>another extended embargo with a delayed ultimatum.
>>In which case I think the Serbs might be a little reluctant to
>>rape Kosovo, though they might think "if we just do it quickly".

>To Bill:

>Just bomb the suckers Bill before they start the same thing in Kosovo.

>The only problem is that if you kill all the bastards there may be a lack
>of work in the PR business, news business, armaments business, etc.  It
>could even stall the recovery from the recesion.


>Another barbaric nation that the developed countries have to bring in line
>of the New World Order.  And the cycle repeats itself.  Coming to your town
>next week.

>Good Luck to you and wellcome to our Orwellian, Chomskian Brave New World
>of 1993.

How imperialist of me.

Let me retract.  We should allow regional self-determination to voice
itself in whatever fashion it takes, since we know it's important to
allow new forms of government to develop in their natural environment,
in order that more ideal methods of rule will be evolved, whatever the
apparent discomfiture or cost.

(Funny, all this time I thought Yugoslavia *was* developed.  Thanks
for straightening me out.)

-- 
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