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From: deanb@cray.com (Dean Barker)
Subject: Re: Pack/Skins/Eagles Tiebreakers ...
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:04:19 CST

dpp@cray.com (Dave Peterschmidt) writes:

>Here is what the St. Paul Pioneer Press has to say about the three-way
>tiebreaker between the Eagles, Packers, and Redskins:

>"Green Bay clinches with a victory Sunday and a Philadephia loss based on
>tiebreaker advantage over Philadelphia.  In a three-way tie, the Eagles'
>better division record would eliminate the Redskins, and the Packers'
>victory over the Eagles would give them a seeding edge."

>Don't ask me why division record enters the picture here.  I always
>thought for a three-way tie among teams in different divisions, it was
>head-to-head, then conference record, then common opponents.  Using
>division record for a three-way tie between non-divisional teams
>doesn't make sense to me.


Here is what I think is happening here. If Green Bay, Washington, and
Philadelphia all end the season with 10-6 records, then Washington and
Philadelphia have a divisional tie. Philadelphia wins the tie-breaker.
So this means Philadelphia is NFC East #2 and Washington is NFC East #3.
Now for wildcard sake, the Packers are tied with the Eagles for the #2
wildcard spot. The Packers win the tiebreaker and the Eagles settle for
the #3 wildcard spot.

I believe the 3-club wildcard tiebreaker everybody is looking at only applies
to 3 clubs all from different divisions.

-Dean
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From: mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello)
Subject: Re: Hey Ed Lor, Bills 4-0 vs NFC, one more NFC team to beat
Organization: CRAY Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:53:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.034614.25654@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>
>I bet you are gullible enough to be my new student .....
>
>-- 
>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
>                                          

Get real.  You've just been mine.

mike
From: sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: A Hopeful Three-part Analogy
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:42:37 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Maryland at College Park

Miami : Sugar Bowl : Alabama :: 49ers : Super Bowl : _______ ?

- Stephen

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Coaching Change in Chicago
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:36:17 GMT

In article <1hs9l2INNca9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:


   After a talk with a high level media type sportscaster here's the scoop:

   Ditka is out in Chicago, he will be replaced by Vince Tobin.....

   Remember you heard it here first !
   tim

Sorry, we've been hearing it around town for weeks. 

The rumor gaining strenght is Richie Pettibone will come on after the
Redskins are eliminated.  Errr, I mean, after the Redskins fine season
finally ends.  

Bill
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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Subject: Re: Roger Craig on George Seifert
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:34:05 GMT


>>>	told the  San Francisco Chronicle. "Anybody can step in and do  a
>>>	good  job  in that system. It's not like he created  this big era
>>>	of what they're [49ers] doing. Bill  Walsh did that a  long  time
>>>	ago."
>>
>>Sure, it's no sweat to take over a championship team and continue the
>>tradition.  I'm sure a lot of Packer fans can tell us about the
>>tremendous success enjoyed by Phil Bengston, who took over for Lombardi.
>>
>>- Gary Rosen
>
>Ray Handley from Parcells.
>

I'm not going to argue that Seifert had/did not have it easy when he
took over the team; however, I will say that neither of the
transitions here seem comparable.  Now, Parcells taking over for
Perkins, who drafted people like Simms and Taylor, I believe (but I
could be wrong).

Was the 49er team George inherited very old or in decline, as was the
case in GB and NY?

Do we have a true instance of a coach, Walsh, leaving a team not
taking a nosedive?  I've heard arguments that Walsh won superbowls
with basically 3 different teams (unlike the Steelers who won with
basically the same team--no, I'm not a Steelers fan).

How good were the Bills when Knox left?  Robinson inherited a good
team from Knox in LA, right?  And I think an argument could be made to
some degree that Pardee and to a lesser extent Armstrong built a base
for Ditka (though I wounldn't try to push that one too hard).

Regardless, Seifert is doing a good job with SF; he could easily screw
it up.

one more item--is Handley truly doing a worse job than Parcells in his
first two years?  I was surpised when they fired Perkins at NY--

Oh, and another one--Glanville took over a Houston team that Hugh
Campbell help assemble.  So, in a sense Pardee's taking over
Glanville's Oilers might be more similar to Seifert's taking over the
49ers (in terms of inheriting a strong team, not in terms of SB's).

-- 

Gary Beason    			      
Purdue University
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
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From: richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: Aikman a weakness?!? (was Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON))
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:18:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.155317.11678@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
: He has been there for 4 years and should
: no longer have fans justifying his weaknesses by saying he is just young.
: .
: .
: .
: If Dallas had a QB that was as good as Emmitt Smith, Irving, or that defense,
: I think Dallas would be awesome and 15-0 right now.  ^^^^^^   

I don't think we'll ever have a quarterback as good as the whole city of
Irving.  "Irving" is where Texas Stadium is, Michael Irvin is the wide
receiver.

Ask any General Manager for any team in the league (yes, Buffalo, Miami,
Denver, San Francisco, Houston, too) if they would trade their starting
quarterback for Aikman, and they wouldn't even have to think about the
answer; absolutely yes.

-- 
Richard Thompson
richard@ods.com 
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From: chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Jills had their ass kicked
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:58:52 GMT

In article <5020@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:
>
>Oh, stop whining, jimmy.  The Bills got beat - very convincingly.  The
>presence of Kelly wouldn't have made any difference.  And Brucey Smith
>*did* play.
>
>Curt
>
>Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
>			DOLFAN in New England.             
>'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
>'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions
>-- 
>Curt Fennell, Unix Sys Admin, GTE Labs    EMAIL: chf0@gte.com
>==============================================================
>"With Mr. Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely
>good manners.  You, yourself may judge which is more reliable"

    Bruce did play.  He played with 3 cracked ribs and certainly not to
his usual caliber.

Chris   a Bills fan
From: msanfrat@cs.ucsd.edu (Mike Sanfratello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hey Ed Lor, Bills 4-0 vs NFC, one more NFC team to beat
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:51:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Dec21.152313.10233@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>
>Biggest win of the season is an interconference game in the regular
>season? It's like somebody saying that the Eagles have already played
>their SB on Oct. 5, did the Bills play theirs yesterday?
>
>-- 
>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
Let me guess; is Ed:


a) pissed because the Skins got pounded 20-3 at New Orleans,
b) pissed because the Skins got pounded 17-13 at Philly,
c) pissed because his "NFC superiority" argument is leaking like a sieve,
d) trying to provoke another flame-fest,

or

e) all of the above.

The thing that has amazed me over the years is that here's a person who
only likes to argue, can you imagine having to actually be within
spitting distance?  But, what even amazes me more is that every year
he'll find more people gullible enough to teach his lesson in
futility to.


mike
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Packers Prefer to face Salsbury.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:54:09 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In today's sports news on the local ABC station (WDAY, Fargo),
they showed pieces of interviews with Holmgren, Favre and other
packs and all of them indicated that they would rather face
Salsbury than Gannon. It seems they had some trouble adjusting
to Gannon's scrambling. Boy oh boy! the hype has started for
this game here in Fargo and me, my pals from India and also
some local American  pals are
just itching for Sunday....:-):-). 
It is a blizzard out here now: -50 F wind chill....and I have
to head home before it gets worse.
S.H Win or Lose Vikes and Twins forever!!!!
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Vikings: NFC Central Champs!!!
1991 Twins: The greatest baseball team ever to be Assembled on Earth.
From: reille85@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wildcard Teams to the Super Bowl
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:30:22 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

The New England Patriots also made it to the Super Bowl as a Wildcard in 1985,
when they lost to the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XX, 46 - 10.
From: cpg@caribbean.bellcore.com (Curt Goedde)
Subject: Re: Ray Handley signs four year deal !!!
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:28:53 GMT

In article <4232@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM>, tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly) writes:
|> In article <1hq72sINN6rp@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
|> >The Giants announced Ray haandley has signed a four year deal to 
|> >remain Head coach through the 96' season
|> 
|> PLEASE tell me that this is a SICK JOKE!!!!!!
|> 

    This is a sick joke.  The axe will fall either today or tomorrow.  There
    are strong rumours about a GIANT press conference later today or early
    tomorrow.  The leading candidate for replacing Handley is Coughlin.
    Wannstedt is the next in line (the Cowboys have already given him 
    permission to talk with the Giants).  It seems like the job will not
    even be offered to Bill Parcells.

    The sources for this info is Dave Klein of the "Newark Star Ledger" and
    also from the "Mike and the Maddog" show on WFAN.
-- 
Curt Goedde                    |    Bell Communications Research
cpg@caribbean.bellcore.com     |    Piscataway, NJ
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From: vxb8773@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Vikes QB's (we want Wade!) and Dallas pass defense
Reply-To: vxb8773@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:02:22 GMT

what i did not like about wade wilson is that he never remained calm in the
pocket. whenever the pocket ever collapsed, he would fall forward (with
shacky feet) and down and have someone touch him for the sack. dont become
impressed with wade after these 2 games. he was a hot QB with the vikes. he
was the Pro Bowl QB in 1989. he would of been a great backup for gannon
this year if they kept him on the roster. to late now!

							vinnie
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Results ... someday
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:24:54 GMT

After week #17, I will post all the results from weeks 13-17.  I am not
planning any type of playoff pool.

-dave
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From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: Vikings Playoff prognosis
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:30:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.143651.14250@ultb.isc.rit.edu> vxb8773@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>correction: the vikes have only beaten one playoff team ( the steelers
>yesterday). they are 1-4 against playoff teams this year (losing to
>houston, san fran, washington, and philly). 
>
>with the vikes win, i can finally relax. it was not pretty but who cares.
>a win is a win. we did not back into the playoffs and finally had a close
>game go our way!
>
>							vinnie

I hope this puts the "can't beat a team with a winning record " stuff to rest.
Actually, as a vikes fan, I'm starting to feel good about the playoffs.

I do think that Coach Green has to make a decision on the QB situation.
I think the guy that starts against the Pack on sunday has to be THE QB
for the duration of the playoffs.

In my opinion, Salisbury is the man right now, he makes FEWER mistakes
than Gannon, and I really think Gannon's confidence is shot for this year.
With the defense playing so well, I think O turnovers (or lack of) are the
key to the outcome of playoff games.

This game against the Pack has nothing at stake for the vikes, they are 
destined to be the 3rd ranking division winner, and to play on the wildcard
weekend.  It's an excellent opportunity to try new things on offense, I'd
even like to see 3rd string QB Brad Johnson play a quarter.

I feel that the vikes have a good chance to advance to the 2nd round of the
playoffs, if that were to happen they would play Dallas at Big D.
Dallas is a team the vikes haven't played this year, and even though I am
a rabid vikes fan, I think their season will end in Dallas.

Then again, stranger things have happened... remember 1987...


----------------------------
J.R. Ordon
A NOT so nervous viking fan
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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: For New York Giants Fans
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:26:32 GMT

Ray Handley and Rod Rust **must** GO!!

End of Discussion.

But who can we get to replace them?


--
  +----------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
  |  Kevin Lu                              | Monash University             |
  |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
  |                                        | Australia                     |
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From: johndoe@jefferson.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: Fifth Place Schedule - Playoffs
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.150119.1@minnie.imd.nrc.ca> kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca writes:
>
>   How often has a team with a fifth place schedule made the playoffs?
>
>   Keith Mews
>
>
at least the following:

1983 Denver Broncos
1991 Denver Broncos
1992 San Diego Chargers
From: andy@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Quick, Help me.....
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:54:57 GMT

Could some kind soul please mail me the spreads of the games this week.  For
some reason all my local papers do not have any of the Sunday spreads and this
is the last day for our office pool.  

Thank you very much.

Andy
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Playoff question regarding Niners-Saints
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:01:46 GMT
    <1992Dec22.182140.8355@sequent.com>
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Dec22.182140.8355@sequent.com>, newson@sequent.com (Newson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.054603.8912@leland.Stanford.EDU> punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes:
>>
>>Assuming the Saints end up with the best record among NFC wildcard teams, is
>>there any scenario in which they could play at Candlestick in the second round
>>of the playoffs?

Yes.  If the Vikings win in the first round, the WC1/WC2 winner (hopefully
the Saints) will play the 49ers and the Vikings will play the Cowboys.  This
holds true regardless of whether New Orleans ends up WC1 or WC2.

>I may be mistaken, but I thought the only time Teams from the same division
>can meet in the playoffs is in the conference championship game. Has this 
>changed since the 3 wildcard/conference scheme was introduced?

Once the playoffs are "seeded", being in the same division means nothing. 
It's strictly high vs. low single elimination with two first-round byes.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikes and Bills observations (not the Chargers)
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:08:18 GMT
Organization: UB

chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:

>You're probably right.  Houston doesn't seem to be able to beat the
>top teams in the AFC.  Of course, they stomped the Bills well enough.

That's it. Keep talking. Woof all you want.

(Let's see, if the Bills can manage to beat the Oilers and KC wins,
hmmmm. Looks like a re-rematch! Please let it happen!)

:-)

Mike C.

>Curt



>-- 
>Curt Fennell, Unix Sys Admin, GTE Labs    EMAIL: chf0@gte.com
>==============================================================
>"With Mr. Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely
>good manners.  You, yourself may judge which is more reliable"
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Raiders' problems
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:40:22 GMT
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



Here are sample of messages heard at the SD-LA game on Sunday:

"Sell the team, Al!"

"Let Marcus play!"

"Trade for Beuerlein, Al!"

"They are really scored of us now, Al!"

There was sign held up in the stands,

"Trade Al Davis for ?"


The Raider team players voted Marcus Allen co-player of the year 
and presented him with a trophy in a ceremony before the game. 

Late in the game, Seau makes an INT and is about to run the ball
back for a TD. Guess who hustles back to help make the tackle at the
3 yd line, Marcus Allen.

I saw Allen smile yesterday for the first time in years [after making 
a great cutback run.]


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| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: TODD KINCHEN:  League MVP!!!!
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:16:03 GMT
Organization: .


Pardon me as I gloat in the death-defying feats of my college chum, 
Todd Kinchen.

Chuck Knox -- what gives with this guy?  Not only does he fail to put TK
back on punt returning, but his special teams play consists of the kickoff
COVERAGE team for most of the year!  Get real!!   At LSU, this guy was 
an _UNBELIEVABLE_ punt returner (not to mention 2-time All-SEC receiver).

I've been hollering about the whereabouts of Todd Kinchen all year long
and finally justice is served on the Falcons!

BTW, in case you were a bad boy and missed ESPN PRIMETIME, Kinchen is a 
3rd-round rookie who became the 6th player in NFL history to return TWO punts 
for TD's in a single game.

Thank you for your time.  Carry on....

--J.J.
geaux saints
(clyde simmons makes wayne martin look like wayne newton)
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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Any Raiders Fans?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:37:07 GMT




Please please please if anyone has a Raider's players list, my 10 yr old
would be very happy! :>

e-mail please.
From: hariharn@roebling.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Roger Craig on George Seifert
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:52:39 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <29710117@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen) writes:
>>(walid al-sabah) /  9:43 am  Dec 18, 1992 /
>>From the L.A. Times of Thursday 12/17/92
>
>>	Overrated? Even though San Francisco  49er Coach George   Seifert
>>	has a 54-3 record, including a Super Bowl victory in 1990, former
>>	running back  Roger  Craig  isn't that impressed  with  Seifert's
>>	accomplishments.   "Look  at  him  with the talent he has," Craig
>>	told the  San Francisco Chronicle. "Anybody can step in and do  a
>>	good  job  in that system. It's not like he created  this big era
>>	of what they're [49ers] doing. Bill  Walsh did that a  long  time
>>	ago."
>
>Sure, it's no sweat to take over a championship team and continue the
>tradition.  I'm sure a lot of Packer fans can tell us about the
>tremendous success enjoyed by Phil Bengston, who took over for Lombardi.
>
>- Gary Rosen

Ray Handley from Parcells.

-- 
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
                How about some depth
                We have too many jacks.
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Cowboys... NFC-East Champs
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:02:30 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The boys have blown off Lanta..41-17 and clinched the NFC-East.
They are No.2 in NFC and have earned a bye for the 1st week
of the playoffs.

S.H

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From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: AFC vs. NFC drivel
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:26:00 GMT

st> Steve Tobias

st> Consider that 5 of the 12 AFC victories were won by ex-NFC teams (Pitts-
    burgh 4x and Baltimore 1x) and the score changes to 19-7 in favor of
    NFC/ex-NFC.

  Actually, only the 1 Baltimore win can be considered to go to the NFC. Up
  until its 1st SB win, Pittsburgh had been a lousy team for many years. They
  hadn't even made the old-NFL playoffs since 1947, and had never made it to
  the old-NFL championship.

--
Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
From: tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ray Handley signs four year deal !!!
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:31:13 GMT
Reply-To: tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly)
Organization: NCR European Development Center

In article <1hq72sINN6rp@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>The Giants announced Ray haandley has signed a four year deal to 
>remain Head coach through the 96' season

PLEASE tell me that this is a SICK JOKE!!!!!!


Giants in '9?
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