Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: The Star of Indiana
From: cputnam@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:25:38 GMT
Followup-To: hate for star
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Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <1992Aug18.161926.5924@midway.uchicago.edu>, xklh@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Krista Lyn Haggert) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.145415.15414@sunova.ssc.gov> jbaron@dirac.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron) writes:
>>Christopher E. Hagen writes:
>>-   Why, exactly, do you hate the Star of Indiana?
>>- 
>>-  (or, love them/like  them/respect them/etc.)
>>- 
>>- 
>>-        I'm just itting here reading all the hatred of them, and I heard all
>>- the booing, etc, all season. WHY? Is it just because we have corporate
>>- sponsorship, and will allow all types of people into our corp, based on their
>>- abilities not their pocketbooks? (sorry, couldn't help but ask that question
>>- since someone told me "The Star of Indiana" was filled with low-class people))
>>
> I really didn't want to get into this subject but since
> you asked.  Most corps, big and small, had (have) to work
> to get started and to get new members and good instructors.
> Star *stole* the best instructors all around the country
> by flashing money.  And yes, Star is talented, but they
> have the best instructors for the wrong reason.

If I were in a corps, I would be very disappointed in the staff if they didn't
do everything possible to get the best instructors.  Why should Star be hated
because they have money?  They went out and got the best instructors.  By the
way, their instructors are not from all over the country, stolen from other
corps.  Zingalli, of course came from Cadets-but he also wrote for Blue
Knights, so he wasn't stolen.  In fact, he wrote very little of their drill
(and the Cadets won without him).  The other instructors came from corps that
still win and do well-they hurt no one by getting the best available.
 

I hope that they "steal" away all of the Cavies instructors.  I'd even pay
money to help them "flash" more in the faces of Cavies instructors and show
them the light.  Come on over Brubaker!!  BTW, you think the Cavies would just
curl up and die if Brubaker left?  Doubt it!
 
> Star does not let all people of all shapes and sizes into
> their corps.  You have to be a certain weight and height.
> And your ever so precious wonderful staff told me that!!
> Also, how much to Star members pay a year in dues?  Could
> it be only $200?  YES!  You don't work for the money
> you get.  Mr. Cook just hands it over.  That is not
> drumcorps.

Maybe it's just me, but what difference does it make?  You get the money.  The
Cavies won this year, the Cadets two years ago.  These corps had  no additional
income (like Star) and they won.  Star gets the money.  And, by the way, Mr.
Cook has done a LOT for DCI as a whole.  He isn't just the Star funder, he has
added money to DCI in general.  Also look what he has done for all the kids
that are in or have ben in Star.  By making the dues only $200 he has opened
the door to all those that couldn't afford drum corps like Phantom or Cavies.
Mr. Cook should be inducted in the DCI Hall of Fame!!  Long live Cook Group!!!
 
> Yeah, yeah.  I know that you Star people think that everybody
> else is jealous.  Well, that is not it.  I wouldn't march
> in Star if they paid me, which I understand is not all
> that uncommon.  Every single person that I ever tried to
> speak to from Star was rude and walked around with this,
> "I am better than you" attitude.  Which is really a shame
> because it would be nice if DCI could be one big happy
> family.

Well, I think it's the Cavies fans that are making it into a "sibling rivalry". 
Was it the Star fans that booed at the finals last year?  No, the Cavies fans
booed Star because they won.  Did the Star fans cheer because the Cavies
got second in '91 (besides because that meant Star won)?  No, but the Cavies
fans went wild when when Star was announced in third.  That type of attitude is
totally uncalled for in DCI.  The Cavies fans need to rethink why they are in
DCI, not the members of Star.
 
>>Because there are people involved with drumcorps, like any
>>other competitive activity, who *need* something to hate, 
>>and in the current DCI world, they've "latched" onto Star.
>>
>>I wouldn't take it too personally, as they are pretty 
>>unimportant in the larger scheme of things, however much they 
>>try to convice you (and the rest of the world) otherwise.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
> BULLSHIT!!!
> 
> Krista

Sorry Krista, but you're full of B*******!!!

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