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From: billb@owlnet.rice.edu (William Stenson Blackwell)
Subject: Re: Language of Beer (War: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation))
Keywords: Chug, pound, slam
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.205552.17566@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut) writes:

|> CHUG: As above, though I think it usually implies drinking the
|> remainder of the beverage

It does indeed, chug implies quaffing the entire beverage, generally.  
This is without rest, i.e. taking a breath.

|> POUND: The act of opening and drinking an entire beer in one go in a
|> short amount of time, usually 20 sec. or under

correct

|> SLAM: A weird process of punching a hole in the bottom of a beer,
|> covering the hole with your mouth and then opening the top, thus
|> releasing the entire contents of the can into your mouth in under 3
|> seconds... only hardened frat boys know how to do this correctly
|> (note: 'slam' involves a completely different process for shots)

WRONG.  The process you're describing is a "shotgun", due to the foam/spray
that is emitted if this feat is done improperly.
 
|> NURSE: The act of taking an extra extra long time to finish a beer,
|> taking very tiny sips at great intervals ('Dude, you really know how
|> to nurse that beer')
|> BUZZED: Feeling happy about it; see also 'buzz' (cf. 'catch a buzz')

Both are correct

|> BAKED: Beginning to lose control of motor functions

This has absolutely nothing to do with alcohol.  Ask someone from alt.hash
what this means.

|> HAMMERED: The drinker hears a constant ringing in his ears... the room
|> may be spinning...

Polite definition, yes.  This is when your friends start saying "Think we
better get him back to the college (dorm)."
 
|> BLOTTO: That fine line of being so drunk that the drinker experiences
|> a total loss of motor control, but does not throw up and does not pass
|> out; he remains totally conscious but incapable of movement, just sits
|> there with mouth slightly open staring at nothing (can be reached only
|> by a certain body weight drinking at a certain speed)

Additionally, this can actually involve booting/blowing chunks/barfing/etc.,
but one still retains control, minimal though it may be, of one's bladder.
This is where one's friends start asking, "Hey, you alive?  You gonna pass
out?  You want another beer?  Boy, you're gonna love sunset tomorrow!"

-- 
Bill Blackwell             P H P <==me!   "A just request is to be met
billb@owlnet.rice.edu     F L L F       in silence, by the act."
Houston, Texas, USA          8       -Dante Alighieri "Inferno" XXIV ln.77-78
"My opinions are mine, no one else is that stupid"
Xref: sparky alt.beer:4979 rec.crafts.brewing:4782
From: ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Canadian Flamewar  (was: Canadian pisswater)
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:30:51 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug20.194520.268@leland.Stanford.EDU> mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen) writes:
>>
>>>Didn't the real Killian's go under years ago?
>>As far as I know, George Killian's Irish Red Ale is and has always been a Coors
>>product. This is a great beer for weaning friends off of commercial swill.
>
>Actually, Killian's was brewed in Enniscorthy, County Wexford, Ireland. Coors
>bought the name. I don't know if the real Killian's is still brewed.

Nope.  Ceased in 1954 or so.  But they do still own their name and licence
the Coors product, and a superior product procuded in France.  Killian's
probably died the way most Indendent Irish brewers died, strangled by the
big G.  Irish ales produced in Ireland by Irish Ale, a Guinness-Allied
Lyons arrangment are Smithwicks in Kilkenny, and then locally large
bottle of Phoenix Ale in Waterfod by Cherry's, and MacArdles in Dundalk.
Dempsey's a small short lived micro produced an Ale in the early 80's,
but frankly were pissing against the wind.  Lager sales in Ireland 
continue to rise at the expense of Ale, with Stout sales relatively
unaffected.


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From: emeeks@unity.ncsu.edu (Edward Meeks)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Killian's Red _Lager_
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:53:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Carolina State University Computing Center

In article <1992Aug20.194520.268@leland.Stanford.EDU> mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen) writes:
>>
>>>Didn't the real Killian's go under years ago?
>>As far as I know, George Killian's Irish Red Ale is and has always been a Coors
>>product. This is a great beer for weaning friends off of commercial swill.
>
>Actually, Killian's was brewed in Enniscorthy, County Wexford, Ireland. Coors
>bought the name. I don't know if the real Killian's is still brewed.
>

Sometime in the '80's Coors changed the recipe from an ale to a lager.
Check out the label.
From: me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Paulaner....
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:06:48 GMT
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH

In <77851@ut-emx.uucp> chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey) writes:

>Well, I've recently tried both Oktoberfest & Paulaner, two incredibly different
>beers considering they come from the same company.  I liked Oktoberfest, but 
>I thought the Paulaner was the absolute worst beer I have ever tasted.  Well, 
>that's just opinion, & I'm not going to sit here flaming Paulaner drinkers, but
>all I want to know is what beers taste similar so that I can avoid them.  Would

Please note, that several breweries are making Oktoberfest beer. It's the
type of beer that gets served at the Oktoberfest in Muenchen. It is slightly
darker, sweeter and has more alcohol than 'ordinary helles' beer.

Generally I'd say that most munich breweries don't make outstanding Helles.
You can drink it in a Biergarten where it comes directly from tap,
but I most certainly wouldn't want to ship this type of beer over a distance
of more than 200 miles. Incidentially it could be that the Oktoberfest
Bier survived the transport better than the ordinary one because it is
heavier.

>it be in anyway similar to the infamaous Samuel Smith's that I've seen so much
>ABOUT?  Or possibly a rauchbier?  Just guesses, & very curious.... 

Have you ever tried rauchbier? I'd say it is an experience, even if you
end up not liking it.

Michael
--
Michael Elbel 			|  No, I haven't lost my brain!
PCS GmbH, Muenchen, Germany	|  I just forgot it in the
   me@dude.pcs.com 		|  rush this morning.
From: comfrank@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Frank Tutzauer)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Stegmaier Porter
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I just stumbled across a brew called Stegmaier Porter, brewed by Stegmaier 
Brewing Co., in Wilkes-Barre, PA.  It's not quite opaque, with a 
beautiful red hue to it.  Nice head, but could stand a bit more body.
Also a little sweetness in the palate.  Not the best porter I've had,
but for 2.99 a sixer, it's ok by me.  I was wondering if any of you
all out there in netland have any opinions on it.

--frank
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Subject: Re: I.D. this brewery?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:34:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.220102.13884@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu writes:
>At the Great Taste of the Midwest in Madison on August 22, one of the 
>brewers listed as attending is "Detroit & Mackinac Brewing Co." Des 
>anyone know who and where they are? Another attendee is "Midcoast 
>Brewing". Same question.

Midcoast Brewing is from Oshkosh or Sheboygan WI.
They own the rights to Chief Oshkosh Red Lager Beer.
This beer is brewed under contract by Point Brewing Company,
of Stevens Point WI. 

Chief Oshkosh 6pk= $4.35
Red in color, a bit drier than normal lager beers and bit more
bitter. Over all a good brew at a good price.

Ken
-- 
 Dr. Strangelove      "You know your having a bad day when the fifth
 U.Wisconsin Milwaukee    inning rolls around and they drag the warning
 Major: Political Science  track." -Mike Flanagan, pitcher Baltimore Orioles
 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: wjb5106@rigel.tamu.edu (Walter Barnett)
Subject: Re: I agree!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:42:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.204220.25356@afit.af.mil>, skatapsk@afit.af.mil (Steven M. Katapski) writes...
>In article <1992Aug7.042534.23602@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> colinl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Colin Lynch) writes:
>>
>>>In article <6761@stan.xx.swin.oz.au>, rtg04@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU (Data Communications Group 04) writes:
>> 
>>>      We believe, in Melbourne, Australia, that any type of US beer (eg Bud, Coors, Corona etc) is the most woosy beer on the face of the earth.
>>> 				                	The Aussie beer lovers.
>>
>>
>>	Time to re-enrol for Geography 101, pal: Corona is as much American
>>as Steinlager is Australian.
>>
>>-- 
>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>Colin Lynch - Telecom Australia | E-mail:  colinl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au
>>Advanced Network Products       |   post:  PO Box A226
>>Customised Software             |          Sydney South NSW  2000
> 
>Hey Pal,
> 
>I hate to burst your bubble, but Corona is NOT a U.S. beer!  If you're 
>going to criticize at least get your facts straight, bonehead!


Can you say 'sarcasm'?  In case you didn't know, Steinlager is not an
Australian beer in exactly the same way that Corona is not a US beer. To
make it more clear:  Steinlager comes from New Zealand (which is not
Australia) while Corona comes from Mexico (which is not the US). 

So, if you are going to go beyond criticism and start calling names, you
ought to make double sure you know what you are talking about. 

_______________________________________________________________________
Walter Barnett        Aerospace Engineering        Texas A&M University
From: igl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Ian Glendinning)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation)
Keywords: bar trek star
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:00:46 GMT

In <x03mh!c@lynx.unm.edu> bdombrow@triton.unm.edu (brent m 92jun08 dombrowski) writes:

>	Here are the rules for the bar trek drinking game.  For those of you
>that I sent this to, these rules are different.

[Rules deleted...]

>CHUG if any of the following occur:

Pardon my British ignorance, but what does "chug" mean?
   Ian
--
I.Glendinning@ecs.soton.ac.uk        Ian Glendinning
Tel: +44 703 593081                  Electronics and Computer Science
Fax: +44 703 593045                  University of Southampton SO9 5NH England
From: okra@buscard.fidonet.org (Dean Goulding)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Commonwelth Brewery in Bo
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:07:41 GMT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

JC>Anybody have comments about the Commonwelth Brewery in Boston. A friend took
JC>me there during vacation. I tried their Stout and their Port, liked both.
JC>
JC>JohnC
JC>

They have recently begun distributing their Burton Ale in bottles here in the
Boston Area.  Good stuff.  Nice hoppy nose. They were also at the WBUR Brewers
Offering last night (as was everyone else in New England associated with
Microbrewing) pouring Golden Ale, Porter and Burton Ale.

IMHO their best offering is still Boston's Best Bitter.  Closest to the real
thing as I can find in this area.  Smooth, low carbonation, not so full
flavored that you can only drink 1 or 2.  (It's amazing how when you're in
the UK at a pub, you can down 3 or 5 before you know it!)

On another note, at said Brewers Offering, I tried a number of Porters and
Stouts - all of which have that 'bitter, roasted' tasting bite to them -
something I found in my own stout attempts.  Is it the Chocolate malt
that contributes this.  I'm trying to emulate (you guessed it) Guinness.
No one was using NO2 to dispense stout of those I got to taste.
What a MADHOUSE!

Dean Goulding
                   
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mayer@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (James Mayer)
Subject: Sam Adams Cream Stout
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:39:47 GMT

Does any brewmeister in the Washington, DC metro area know where to seek out
the likely tantelizing treat of the Sam Adams Cream Stout?
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: shick@europa.asd.contel.com (steve hick)
Subject: Re: Samuel Adams Dopplebock
Reply-To: shick@europa.asd.contel.com (steve hick)
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:08:17 GMT

In 1992Aug18.131928.24037@csc.ti.com Sam Goins said:

*> Paulaner Salvator dopplebock.  More expensive, but if you like the SAD, you'll
*> love this stuff too.  IMHO, of course...  8)

I had the good fortune to be in Germany, and brought back a bottle of the Paulaner Slavator (among 
others).  Tried both this and SAD at the same sitting, and I have to agree, SAD is really fine, but 
Salvator still had a bit of an edge on it. But it's good, it's good.


Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Paulaner....
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:51:24 GMT

chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey) writes:

>>WHICH Paulaner did you not like?

>It was the Hefe-Weizen that I tried & didn't like.  So which ones should I 
>avoid in the future?

This is probably a Hefe-Weizen problem, not a Paulaner problem.
A lot of people seem to dislike the style; they don't like the
citrus and/or banana and/or clove esters characteristic of the
beer (don't flame me, I love them).

If you don't like Paulaner Hefe-Weizen, you are not going to like
any other Bavarian wheat beers.  Avoid beers with "weiss", "weisse",
"wheat", "weizen," or "wheaten" on the lable.  There is also a good
chance you'll not like many Belgian style beers, which also tend to
be sour and estery tasting.

Don't swear off other Paulaner products if you didn't like the
Hefe-Weizen.  It is a unique style which you either love or hate.
Their Helles, Oktoberfest, and Salvator Dopplebock are all quite
good, and taste more like "conventional beer."

Jon Binkley

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gal2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jacob Galley)
Subject: Minors at micro festivals?
Reply-To: gal2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:08:42 GMT


There's a microbrewery festival in Madison, Wisconsin next Saturday
called the Great Taste of the Midwest. (If anyone wants more info,
write me and I'll send it. It's at home.) I really want to go, but
I'm a minor for another few months. Does anyone out there know how
lax folks like these are on the drinking laws? I don't want to drive
for 2+1/2 hours just to get carded.

Thanks for your support,
Jake, the homebrewer who just might drive into a tree if he could
legally drink in public.
-- 
Reinheitsgebot <-- "Keep your laws off my beer!" <-- gal2@midway.uchicago.edu
From: mcrosbie@unix1.tcd.ie (Mark J. Crosbie)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Guinness sells out! (was Re: Pub Draught Guinness in Chicago!)
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:24:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin

In <1992Aug19.074254.21788@lth.se> kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:

>GENUFLECT WHEN YOU SAY THAT!

>Did I say Guiness should not be chilled?  NO!  I said 60F-15C, which
>is somewhat cooler than even the most frugal thermostat-watcher's room
>temperature.  I stake my life on that that Dubliner, when he said it
>should be chilled, is referring to a temperature much closer to 15C,
>than 0C.  No doubt about it, I like mine slightly warmer than the
>average Irishman.  (My mother's maiden name is O'Donohue, btw).  And
>to roughly paraphrase this oft-quoted Dubliner, Guiness at my optimal
>temperature does collect condensation.  In any case, I am an American
>living in Sweden.  Why should I neglect my personal tastes for any
>Irishman, not to mention Guinness' gizmo?

>Actually, I can't wait for a chilled-canned-poured Guinness to "warm up
>a bit".  After I've waited the lengthy time for it to unthaw, it's
>lost most of it's "kreemy head", thus putting those Guinness
>can-engineers' work to naught.

[ Stuff deleted ]

>Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
>Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se

Ah Hello!

As the "oft-quoted" Dubliner, I'd like to clear a few things up here....

After consultation with many Guinness-guzzling College Compatriots,
and after a period of extensive research last evening in Mulligans,
we feel that Guinness should be served on the cooler side of 10C.
This is for a number of reasons:
1) It tastes good for us. What the beer is like by the time it gets
   to the US or Sweden or whereever, I don't know, but for Guinness
   brewed in Dublin, it definitely is better if it is quite cold.

2) When a pint is left to warm up, the head is lost quicker. The beer
   goes flat and stale quicker, and you get a horrible gicky taste
   from it. Over here, when the head starts going a little yellow
   then it's time to drink up quickly and buy another pint.

Of the two points, number 2 is the most important. There's nothing worse
than getting a pint which is only slightly chilled and sit and watch it
go mouldy because of this. I suppose you could argue that you should
drink it up quicker, but it's also a nice thing to have a chat while
sinking pints....

Oh, and btw Kurt, I didn't ask to be quoted as a God on Guinness,
and I didn't mean to infringe on your personal rights to drink
as and how you see fit :-)


Slainte,
Mark.

Mark Crosbie   (and the rest of Computer Architecure Lab)
Dept. of Computer Science
Trinity College, Dublin
Dublin 2
Ireland
mcrosbie@vax1.tcd.ie
From: jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation)
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:52:15 GMT
Reply-To: jimv@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.

In article 12541@ecs.soton.ac.uk, igl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Ian Glendinning) writes:
>In <1992Aug12.200950.18445@csc.ti.com> jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,) writes:
>
>>As I could be fairly well described as a "bubba" as worded in past messages, 
>>except for the fact that I do enjoy micro-brew  8)   I thought I'd answer this
>>one....   CHUG, loosely translated, would be a VERY BIG sip.  Say about as much
>>beer as one can possibly force into one's mouth without it spilling down one's
>
>Jim,
>    thanks for the explanation.  Unfortunately in answering one
>question you've raised another.  I didn't see the earlier references
>to "bubba" - what's that?!
Well, "bubba" was described as a "large truck driven' American" that measures
a beer's worth by how much can be consumed before passing out, vs. what it
actually tastes like.  I don't drive trucks, but I do consume mass quantities
of brew, and have been called "large"...  8)   My version of CHUG seems to 
differ from other netlanders.  Their CHUG equates to my "pound" or "slam", or
possibly even "quaff"; that is, finish off the remainder of the brew in your
can/bottle/glass.  In my earlier days  8)  we played games which varied the
size of the drink, as in Bar Trek, as to sip, chug, and pound...

Nowadays, I drink Sammies and check out the local brew store for a new variety
of beer/ale/lager/stout/....  that I haven't yet had.  This is generally influenced
by which 6-packs are on sale ot the time....

From an earlier post, I talked about Dragon Stout, and someone mentioned the
black/tan with another Jamaican brew (Red Stripe).  At $4.99  (down from $7.99),
I just bought another case...  It could be me, but this stuff sure tastes a lot
like a Young's Porter.  The best $5/six beer I've had...   8)  

Bubba alert - I still like to pound some Spuds on the links....  

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From: jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,)
Subject: Re: Canadian pisswater (was: Beer/Brewing P
Reply-To: jimv@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:56:04 GMT


>I have one question for brewmeisters around the world:
>  "Why do you think that American's insist on flavorless beer?  The success
>  of Bud Dry (not the best but better than Bud), Sam Adams, George Killians,
> and countless micros prove this theory wrong!!

Why?  Because of $$, what else.  MAJORITY cries for "beer", cheap beer.
Democracy = majority rules....   Until the "majority" cries out that it is 
willing to pay double what they pay now for beer in order to get "good"
beer, we will continue to have the BudMilCoors syndrome.  

Microbrews cannot compete for many reasons, mostly volume and cost of ingredients.
Money makes the capitalist world go around, so capitalists make cheap beer to
make their bank accounts fat on the majority of cheap beer drinkers...

Oh yes, there is one more thing, please, please, NEVER put Bud Dry and Samuel
Adams together in the same sentence!!!   8)
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