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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: nitromethane/methanol
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:31:21 GMT


 I'm not sure this _quite_ fits the realm of rec.pyro, but I was wondering
if there is a standard that nitromethane and methanol mixtures have
concerning the ration of the two. Is there an easy way to find out? I'm
talking about the kind used in model airplane engines. The bottle that the
fuel comes in doesn't say. It's made by Cox.

St. Anthony
From: ac@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (George A Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Wanted - info on "The Big Book of Menaces"
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:15:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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		I was wondering if anyone knew where I could download
	the book, "The Big Book of Menaces".  I heard about this from 
	someone posting a reply to the misc.forsale newsgroup.  It is
	related to "The Anarchists Cookbook", but I'd rather download
	the above title than buy the latter.  If you have info, please
	respond to my E-mail.

						Thank you,
						George

	P.S.  E-mail address:  ac@wpi.wpi.edu
From: rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Black Powder
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 15:09:13 PST
Reply-To: rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I'm having trouble finding a place to buy Black Powder.  The local 
sportig goods shop won't carry it, thay claim they had some sort of 
insurance problem.  If anybody knows of a place it would be appreciated.  
Please E-mail.  Thanks!

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:22:22 GMT

D.Parson@bradford.ac.uk (D PARSON) writes:
: I KNOW this isn't _strictly_ a question about pyrotechnics, (unless it goes
: wrong!) but what is the best way to connect a NO2 feed to a car in order
: to increase acceleration...

You don't - you use N2O. When it is used, you need to rebuild and retune
the carburator - it is not just a simple bolt-on conversion.

Bill
From: paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Rocket Fuels
Date: 19 Jan 93 07:16:18 GMT
Organization: Taniwha Systems Design

In article <EcPWrAiNBh107h@fulgor.UUCP> janv%fulgor@frcs.alt.za writes:

>Another question:
>Has anybody experimented with the "real stuff": Ammonium perchlorate
>& aluminum powder set in Thiokol rubber as a propellant ? That
>was (is) a common ingredient for large solid-propellant rockets
>in the 60's (and maybe even later).

Yeah, we fly it all the time, it's available commercially here, at prices
that are affordable (at least affordable for just about anything you
can fit in your car). Check out rec.models.rockets where what you want
is refered to as a 'composite' fuel. Since it's available 'off the shelf'
most people don't roll their own, some do, the results aren't always pretty ...

	Paul
-- 
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"Finally after much thought he tied a dollar bill to the top of the tree, it
seemed to fit - after all it was the premier capitalist holiday, besides after
the 'fall' of communism a star didn't seem appropriate anymore ..."
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:07:13 GMT

wcscses2@superior.carleton.ca (Geoff Hamer) writes:
: In <1993Jan25.202222.13981@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: 
: >You don't - you use N2O. When it is used, you need to rebuild and retune
: >the carburator - it is not just a simple bolt-on conversion.
: >Bill
: 
: There is many different NOS systems on the market (of varing
: complexity) and some of them are 'bolt-on'.
: 
: The simplest method involves a plate that is bolted between the
: carburetor and the intake manifold. The plate will contain outlets for
: NOS and fuel injectors... The extra fuel is VERY important since NOS
: artificially increases the oxygen content of the mixture. If you were
: to inject just NOS into a high performance engine (or almost any
: engine) the resulting lean mixture would burn so hot you would melt a
: piston quicker then you can read this sentence.

Which is basically what I said. As you stated, you need much more fuel
when you use N2O. The point I was trying to make was that you did not
just inject the nitrous and go.

: A post to rec.autos.technical would probably be a better place for
: this question though.

I agree.

Bill

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From: moroney@world.std.com (Michael Moroney)
Subject: Re: Chloramine
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:57:24 GMT

rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu) writes:

>Does anyone know much about this.  I've heard abut it in several places, but
>I have not been able to find out much about it.  It is prepared by bubling
>chloring through a solution of AmoniumNitrate (or at least let the gas come
>into contact).  A oily substance forms on the top, and aparently this is
>chloramine.  It is very unstable though, moreso than Nitrogen Tri-Iodide.
>I guess the chemical equation would be something like NH3-Cl3.

Chloramine is used instead of chlorine in drinking water supplies in some
places.  I believe it is more stable/longer lasting in this application
than chlorine, though of course it's still unstable enough to oxidize
bacteria.  I doubt it would be explosive as it would then be too dangerous
for water works workers. Its formula is NH2Cl.

-Mike
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From: cpbeaure@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Beauregard)
Subject: Re: Canadian Pyrotechnic Laws
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:49:17 GMT

In article <C1H63C.763@mach1.wlu.ca> sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca (Scott Schelter u) writes:
>        I would appreciate it if someone could advise me of and/or tell
>me where I should look/what I should read to know the Canadian Laws about
>the projects described in this newsgroup. 

They're all, with almost no exceptions (you might be able to freeze mice
with LOX here), illegal.

It's illegal to manufacture pyrotechnics in Canada without a license.
Making high explosives is a definite Bad Thing.  

Remember, this is a place that makes firecrackers illegal.

Don't let this stop you.  Just don't get caught...

>          sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca
>          Scott Schelter

Chris Beauregard                                cpbeaure@napier.uwaterloo.ca
A major goal in my life is to hunt down everyone associated with Star
Trek, in any of its forms, and kill them.
From: paladin@west.darkside.com (Paladin)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Canadian Pyrotechnic Laws
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:16:01 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca (Scott Schelter u) writes:

> 
>         I would appreciate it if someone could advise me of and/or tell
> me where I should look/what I should read to know the Canadian Laws about
> the projects described in this newsgroup. 
> 
>           sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca
>           Scott Schelter
> 
> 
> 
> -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*- -*()*-
> "If winning isn't everything, then how come no one goes for the bronze?"
> "Hey...It's me" Han Solo    /////  Scott ///// sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca
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A simple rule of thumb to use to not get in trouble is this:

It's ok to talk about it.

It's quite another thing to actually do something about it.

Be safe.
Be sane.
Be aware.

...and look over your shoulder before lighting the fuse.
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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:08:48 GMT

>> 	Hello again!  Lets see here.  I'm not a Chemist OR a Chemical Engr.,
>> but I have a few things to add to the NO2 discussion.   
>> 	First off, NO2 is used in Auto Racing (as I am an automotive 
>> enthusiast).  The NO2 is basically compressed and put into a canister similar
>> to a propane tank.  Then the NO2 is hooked up via cables and sent thru a 
>> special connection to your carberator, mixed with air and fuel, which causes
>> a much better explosion then just fuel/air.  That is how it is used for auto 
>> racing.  If you want specifics, call some Hot Rod parts depo and ask.  They
>> have kits you can buy.  
>> 	Ok, now, actually, if I am not mistaken, NO2 is also used by dentists
>> and used in such things as whipped cream canisters.  When I used to work for
>> United Dairy farmers, we used a lot of whipped cream, and when the whipped
>> cream canisters were gone, there would still be some NO2 left.  We could then
>> inhale this stuff and catch a nice buzz off it.  The label on the canister
>> specifically said it was "Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2)."  N2O is something 
>> completely different, and i have no clue what it is used for.
>> 	I wouldn't recommend inhaling the NO2 from auto containers, because
>> it will cause you to become very sick and cough up blood.  This is because of
>> the process used to make the NO2 used in automotive use is not very good.  
>> There are a lot of other chemicals in that container other than NO2.  
>> 	Any Chemists out there, please make comments if I am incorrect in
>> any way!
>
>	O.K., I will. :-)
>Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2), is a reddish-brown gas.  It is NOT the same as Nitrous
>Oxide (N2O), which is "laughing gas" and is used as a propellent for whipped
>cream, and for automotive supercharging.  Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2), is a VERY
>toxic gas and can easily damage the lungs if inhaled for even a short time.
>Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2) is used to bleach materials.
>
>	You are probably correct when when you advise about not inhaling the
>N2O made for automotive uses, since it is likely to be less pure than the
>food grade.  Since you mentioned the use of N2O to catch a "buzz", you might
>want to check out alt.drugs, where this topic is discussed all the time.  Also
>notice how many people _there_ get N2O and NO2 confused.  
>
> 
>Ken

	Sorry, I was inaccurate in my post.  The main thing that I was eluding
to is that (yes I read alt.drugs) the stuff in Whipped Cream canisters IS the
same stuff that is used for automotive uses.  You are right, it is N2O and
not NO2.... The people on alt.drugs even refer to it as NO2 almost always,
when they actually mean N2O.  Sorry for the confusion.  And, it is NOT a good
idea to inhale gas from an automotive N2O canister, but it IS safe to inhale
it from a whipped cream canister.  Sorry for the confusion.

Mike Maryo   mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:02:18 GMT
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In article <1993Jan25.180017.3081@bradford.ac.uk> D.Parson@bradford.ac.uk
(D PARSON) writes:
>I KNOW this isn't _strictly_ a question about pyrotechnics, (unless it g
es
>wrong!) but what is the best way to connect a NO2 feed to a car in order
>to increase acceleration...
>
>Of coure, I would NEVER actually think of doing it...  Just curious!
>
>Thanxx in advance!
>
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Well I know the above will send myriad chemical nit-pickers off, and I'm
going off as well... I wouldn't put NO2 through _anything_ I wanted to
keep... Now _perhaps_ if I wanted to increase engine performance, I
_might_ use N2O. The distinction is critically important. I hope that no
dentsist ever confuses the two!  
 As for actually doing this, I have no idea... 

St. Anthony
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: LOX explosives
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:30:09 GMT

Just to clear up a few points on LOX based explosives. LOX and just
about any porous combustable material can be used as a high explosive.
LOX and charcoal has been used in industry as a high explosive. LOX
based explosives still require a detonator for reliable initiation.
However that doesn't mean that they are not capable of making the
deflagration to detonation transition. Deflagration can give rise
to detonation on LOX based explosives, just not reliably so. Therefore
deflagrating into detonation is not used as a means of initiating
LOX based explosives in industry. It is only used in this way for
accidentally maiming amateur pyrotechnicians.

How about this for a slurry explosive; SOX and LH. That's solid oxygen
in liquid hydrogen. Good for mining on Pluto :)

(I forgot where I read it)

Mark.

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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: H2O2
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:26:05 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1993Jan21.003009.16321@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
>
>Hydrogen peroxide boils at 150 C, so you can concentrate it by
>distillation (probably under a partial vacuum). 

    You can also kill yourself doing this.  Don't even try it.
-- 
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: The "Cookbook"
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:28:56 GMT

sas010@acad.drake.edu writes:
: Greetings and hallucinations!  Just curious...all this ripping into the
: Anarchists's Cookbook has been going on and I just need a clarification.  I
: know of two types of the cookbook.  One is the commercial publication I have
: seen floating around campus.  The other is an old ASCII text file compilation I
: have heard is still floating around.  Are BOTH unreliable bits of hippie
: garbage?  Or is it just the commercial version?  Or just the ASCII version?  

I have not seen the ASCII compilation. However, if it is based on the printed
AC - then it is also garbage.

It is best to treat all such publications as being unreliable. That holds for
the "PYRO'x" files and TBBOM, as well. TBBOM is much better than the others
I have seen - but I still would want to verify the information with sources
that are known to be reliable.

Bill
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Ammonium Nitrate
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:12:38 GMT

In article <C0vI4H.26M@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au
(Mark Fernee) writes:
>In article <1993Jan14.165310.12586@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.
p.com (bill nelson) writes:
>|> ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) writes:
>|> : 
>|> : DO NOT DO THIS:  mixing red phosporus with ammonium nitrate will
>|> : sensitize it greatly.  To the point where stirring it can cause it
>|> : to detonate.  There is very little you can do to predict the outcom
.
>|> : How do I know?  Well, lets just say that I don't hear so well anymo
e
>|> : and the other guy is nick-named lefty.  No smiley.
>|> 
>|> Hm, was it ammonium nitrate or potassium chlorate? Guess I will have 
o
>|> look up the sensitivity. 
>|> 
>|> Kurt Saxon, of "The Poor Man's James Bond" fame - mangled his hand wh
n 
>|> a mixture of red phosphorus and KClO3 exploded.
>|> 
>|> Bill
>
>I also have a friend who has fallen victim to KClO3/red phosphorus. He
>has some scars but is otherwise lucky.
>
>As for AN/red phosphorus, I have not encountered any data, but I would
>certainly suggest NOT substituting a bit of this or that for some 
>recommended chemical. If you are working with sensitive and dangerous
>chemicals it pays to know the possible outcomes of your action. There
>is no substitute for carefully studying the subject before mixing, 
>using or synthesising any dangerous compounds.
>
>AN can be reliably and safely sensitised. It can be safely made very cap

>sensitive and is one of the most widely used explosives in the world.
>As a pyrotechnic component, it is not very useful due to its hygroscopic

>deliquescent nature (a major drawback with AN).
>
>Mark.


 I would guess that the red phosphorus would act as a sort of catalyst for
the NH4NO3. Red phosphorus is often used as a reducing agent and AN in a
good oxidiser. 

St. Anthony
From: paladin@west.darkside.com (Paladin)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: )) question ((
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:09:06 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

Knowing what Magnesium does when ignited, I was wondering whether the 
percentage of actual Magnesium used in some "Mag Wheels" would be 
sufficient to achieve the "desired effects" if I were to try to ignite 
the wheels of some irritating idiot's car.  

I have a common road flare that's just itching to be used.

By the way, I routinely use these to make color in some of my 4th of July 
airborne salutes.  What's in these puppies?  (tie three of them together 
and watch as your friends defecate in their shorts when you tell them 
it's dynamite..)
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From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble)
Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:10:47 GMT

In article <C11M9o.LEq@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>
>It depends on how far you want to transport it. For one the plastic will
>get very brittle, also the LOX will not stop simmering...... I'm sure
>some would-be arsonist would fill up a couple of buckets, put them in
>the boot of his/her car and them drive to the scene where he/she then
>unloads them and carries them into the building where the foul crime
>is committed. Hey come on, I've played with enough liquid nitrogen and
>condensed LOX as well to know you're not going to transport LOX in plastic
>very far. LOX and just about any porous combustable material is an explosive.
>Just try the exploding toilet roll trick, Just add enough fuse and KaBoom!!
>It can be verrry dangerous, do not get any on your eye or you'll find out
>about eye damage (it can take a couple of days).
>
>be careful,
>
>Mark.
>

We "sacrificed" a 1 gal "igloo" thermos, made of plastic and
foam insulation.  Topped it off with LOX, set it a couple hundred
feet away from anything, and remotely dropped a burning paper wad
in the top.  It didn't blow up.  When the plastic caught, it burned
pretty slow, like a flare, but very bright.. It lasted 3 or 4 mins
in all.  Much more fun to toss a lit cigarette into a large styrofoam
cup of LOX.. it makes a nice 2' diameter fireball for about 5 sec.
Hard plastics don't "absorb" the LOX like briquetts or a roll of TP
would.
--ghg
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From: pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Something of interest...
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:52:58 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

>	Yeah but who REALLY uses bombs that much today?  We aren't in  
>Belfast here (at least I'm not).  The incidents that happened at some  
>college involving exploding 2-litre bottles is hardly a serious concern.   
	Depends on who got hurt & how bad.  (Yes, D-I bombs do hurt people...)
	The net is international.  "we" are in Belfast and London and Helsinki
	an Oz and........

thanks
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Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
40 Old Bolton Rd		|I am the NRA.
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: H2O2
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 04:46:31 GMT

In article <6RXNXB3w165w@gilligan.tsoft.net> bbs.byron@gilligan.tsoft.net
(Byron Reynolds) writes:
>I saw 35% H202 today in a health food store.  Don't ask me why, I have
>no idea.  It was sold in 2L bottles.
>
>--
>Byron Reynolds (bbs.byron@gilligan.tsoft.net)


 Well, it certainly wouldn't be a very good antioxidant... *chortle*

St. Anthony

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From: pbray@envy.reed.edu (<<hurdy gurdy>>)
Subject: Re: Something of interest...
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:20:36 GMT

In article <C17pCv.EL5@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>  
cpbeaure@mobius04.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Beauregard) writes:

> Making bombs is not a new phenomenon, but the computer age has brought
> the recipes for the explosives to the fingertips of anyone with a
> little computer knowledge and a modem.

Hm.  So I wonder who's keeping track of what is said, and who said what,  
on this board???

--
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to be mistaken, the splendorous blond beast, avidly rampant for
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From: jws@billy.mlb.semi.harris.com (James W. Swonger)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:04:46 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1993Jan25.180017.3081@bradford.ac.uk> D.Parson@bradford.ac.uk (D PARSON) writes:
>I KNOW this isn't _strictly_ a question about pyrotechnics, (unless it goes
>wrong!) but what is the best way to connect a NO2 feed to a car in order
>to increase acceleration...
>
>Of coure, I would NEVER actually think of doing it...  Just curious!
>
>Thanxx in advance!
>
(1) Buy a kit from any of the many vendors advertising in the back of 
    hot rod magazines
(2) Follow the instructions
(3) Ask the friendly folks on alt.hotrod, rec.autos.tech, or alt.rod-n-custom
    some of whom idubitably have done it already
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