HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: joeb@arden.linet.org (Joe Beiter)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: Re: Unix FidoNet Mailer...
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:01:34 GMT
Organization: The Courts of Chaos

In article <C0CnBA.84w@news.rn.com> larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>winslade@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Winslade) writes:
>
>>Rfmail has a supposedly complete installation script, but it made a lot of
>>picky configuration errors when I tried it on a rather common SysVr3 system.
>
>rfmail runs rather well under Interactive Unix 3.2 -- I haven't 
>tried it under SunOS or SVR4 --
>

anyone have more information about this software?  I haven't heard of Rfmail
or anything that runs under unix that will communicate with a Fidonet system.

Does it handle echomail or convert to usenet news or just email etc...?


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From: brahim@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Brahim Souabi)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: This is just a test!
Summary: me
Keywords: B. King
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:44:39 GMT

Just testing the net dudes !!(and dudetes)
From: esiewick@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.unixbbs
Subject: Info on UCI BBS?
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:36:42 EST
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

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Hi,

I'm looking for information on UCI BBS software.  Any knowledge on
this software would be greatly appreciated.  I do know it's University
of California at Irvine and that it should operate well as a Mail
handler.  Other than this, I'm starting at zero.

If you're familiar with this package, know where to find the source
code, etc., please send an E-mail response.

Edward Siewick

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From: winslade@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Winslade)
Subject: Re: Unix FidoNet Mailer...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:36:05 GMT

>>>Rfmail has a supposedly complete installation script, but it made a lot of
>>>picky configuration errors when I tried it on a rather common SysVr3 system.

>>rfmail runs rather well under Interactive Unix 3.2 -- I haven't 
>>tried it under SunOS or SVR4 --

>anyone have more information about this software?  I haven't heard of Rfmail
>or anything that runs under unix that will communicate with a Fidonet system.

>Does it handle echomail or convert to usenet news or just email etc...?

It appears to have all kinbs of news and mail utilities.
 
Good day      JSW
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From: xyzzy@imagen.com (Xyzzy)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Need Telnetable BBS Lists.
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:22:52 GMT
Organization: IMAGEN

In article <yFHZwB3w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca> kaleid@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (kaleid) writes:
>
>> In article <1993Jan4.205742.25810@fuug.fi>, an3075@anon.penet.fi (The Man Wit
>> > X-Anon-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
>> > 
>> > Hi netters,
>> > 
>> > Does anyone know of any adult BBS's that can be accessed via Telnet?
>> > alternatively, if you could point me in the direction of sources of
>> > information, I'd be grateful.
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Mail me one too pls.
>(kaleid@sys6626.bison.mb.ca)

And a copy to me, too, if you please.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: sci20007@nusunix1.nus.sg (MA SOON PENG)
Subject: OS/2 BBS software
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:25:38 GMT

Hi there everyone,

I've also got got my copy of OS/2 and am thinking of starting a small
BBS as well.  Can any seasoned SysOp running one on OS/2 kindly
enlighten as to the type of software to use ?

Thanks.

Ronnie Ma |  sci20007@nusunix3.nus.sg
From: kaleid@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (kaleid)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: FTPing
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 19:52:58 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Ok, I like need some help here.  First of all, I need a list of FTPable 
sites.  2nd of all, I need someone to tell me how I would go about FTPing 
a file from that site.  Any help is greatly appreciated
 
\/\/arre/\/
(kaleid@sys6626.bison.mb.ca)
From: rhw@att.com (Robert Wentworth)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Want recommendations for network or commercial BBS
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:18:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


I have a computer-naive friend who is interested in signing up for one
of the computer networks.  The question is, which one?

Requirements:

	o Cost-effective

	o A wide variety of forums

	o Perhaps USENET access

	o Internet E-MAIL would be nice

	o Access to archival articles of popular publications,
	  (e.g., NY Times?)

I live on the Internet and have very little idea what is out there
for use by the general public.  (I've heard of Compuserve, Prodigy,
HoloNet, but have little idea what they offer.)

Comments/suggestions/pointers to a reference info/contact information
would all be appreciated.

(If it is relevant, my friend lives in New York, and is a writer.)

Please reply via e-mail.
Thanks in advance,

Robert Wentworth
rhw@hoh-1.att.com
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From: abolins@visavis.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Need Telnetable BBS Lists.
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:28:48 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

Interesting, but perhaps not a very well chosen Organization name:

From: schwartz@mmm.SERC.3M.Com (William H. Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:48:23 GMT
Organization: Applications & Systems Support Services

Funny 'cause: A.S.S. Services ?


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From: rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: OS/2 BBS software
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:25:55 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood



Hi there gang!

Anyways, I run a BBS. Telegard, moddified source code.

I just got OS/2 and I'm thinking about running the BBS from there.
Any suggestions?
Requirements, I have to run Dos online games, and run at 9600 baud. And have
a descent message base system. Also, if it requires actual source code 
modding, that ok so long as it isn't C. (I hate C)

Rob Merritt
From: peter@globv1.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:50:54 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

ms3@reef.cis.ufl.edu (McArthur E. Sandridge III) writes:

>bbs host.  Preferably with a new, custom (perhaps maximus port) bbs
>software, written with UNIX in mind...

Yep, a Maximus port would be nice. However, the sources of Max 1.02 were
publicly available, but Max 2.0 sources are not. That is, I have never heard
or seen any. I hope I'm mistaken however... Anyway, the 1.02 sources are
kinda DOSish and it's unlikely that it will be ported to something else than
DOS and OS/2.

Greetings,
Peter Busser
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: OS/2 BBS software+
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:58:15 GMT


>In article <1993Jan5.142555.14225@apgea.army.mil>,
> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:

>> I just got OS/2 and I'm thinking about running the BBS from there.
>> Any suggestions?
>> Requirements, I have to run Dos online games, and run at 9600 baud. And 
>> have a descent message base system. Also, if it requires actual source 
>> code modding, that ok so long as it isn't C. (I hate C)

Well, I don't think it is possible (it isn't with stock OS/2 anyway) to run 
DOS online games with an OS/2 BBS, since you can't pass the comm handle from 
an OS/2 program to a DOS program.

So, that means a DOS program under OS/2, which means serious problems at 
9600 bps (not baud), unless one of the new drivers, such as SIO, has or will 
shortly solve it.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Good Mac BBS programs? Hermes
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:05:54 GMT

In article <Mossad.0rqm@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca>, Mossad@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Mossad) writes:
> Are there any good Mac BBS programs out tehre?  I have looked at NLP and
> decided it isn't that good.  First Class is pretty good but lacks a good
> text interface for non-Mac callers.  Does anyone have any other
> suggestions?  Thanks...
> 
>   Steve
> 
> -- Via DLG Pro v0.992
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Fidonet: 1:163/109.18  |  Internet: aa229@freenet.carleton.ca         |
> |                        |            Mossad@qube.ocunix.on.ca          |
> |  <<My opinions are not associated with anything, including my head.>  |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------


Might try Hermes.. it looks like WWIV (Dos BBS), but it is a MAC BBS..
REal nice, I think you can net it with WWIVnet BBSes and then from there to
internet/bitnet..


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu

Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: OS/2 BBS software+
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:04:15 GMT

In article <symXwB5w164w@tweekco.uucp>, alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes:
> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there gang!
>> 
>> Anyways, I run a BBS. Telegard, moddified source code.
>> 
>> I just got OS/2 and I'm thinking about running the BBS from there.
>> Any suggestions?
>> Requirements, I have to run Dos online games, and run at 9600 baud. And have
>> a descent message base system. Also, if it requires actual source code 
>> modding, that ok so long as it isn't C. (I hate C)
>> 
>> Rob Merritt
> 
> You might try running a copy of Waffle through a Telegard door. Your
> other option is VBBS, but though it has nominal Internet compatibliity,
> it's slow and doesn't accept bang path addresses.
> A.Lizard
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> A.Lizard Internet Addresses:
> alizard%tweekco%boo@PacBell.COM        (preferred)
> [path]!pacbell.COM!boo!tweekco!alizard (bang path for above)
> alizard@gentoo.com (backup) alizard@Blue.Kludge.com (if all else fails)
> PGP2.0 public key available on request.

I know WWIV has a conversion program for WWIV packets to UUCp, called WWCP.. IF
you can get someone who knows about it, maybe have them write you convertor
program for waffle (in its unix version?) I wonder if there is a OS/2 version
of Waffle? I know OS/2 has not much support in some sectors yet..
We ahll see and wish ya the best..


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
From: Mossad@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Mossad)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Good Mac BBS programs?
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:06:43 EDT
Organization: The QuBE BBS

Are there any good Mac BBS programs out tehre?  I have looked at NLP and
decided it isn't that good.  First Class is pretty good but lacks a good
text interface for non-Mac callers.  Does anyone have any other
suggestions?  Thanks...

  Steve

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Unix public domain bbs
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:17:11 GMT

repstein@mlink.UUCP (Randy) writes:

>Isn't Waffle shareware?

The DOS release is available on the net via FTP -- the UNIX release
requires a source license.  If you use the DOS version, you need to
send a check for $35 under the licensing agreement
 


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keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: kaleid@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (kaleid)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: OS/2 BBS software
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 19:38:02 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

sci20007@nusunix1.nus.sg (MA SOON PENG) writes:

> Hi there everyone,
> 
> I've also got got my copy of OS/2 and am thinking of starting a small
> BBS as well.  Can any seasoned SysOp running one on OS/2 kindly
> enlighten as to the type of software to use ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 


Try Maximus.  It's kinda like Remote Access.  There's a board in Winnipeg 
running Maximus on OS/2, if ya wanna call it, it's 204-832-9603 or 
204-896-3906.  8329603 is 38400bps, and 8963906 is 2400bps.

\/\/arre/\/
(kaleid@sys6626.bison.mb.ca)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
From: an3075@anon.penet.fi (The Man With No Name)
Subject: Need Telnetable BBS Lists.
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:17:00 GMT

X-Anon-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc

Hi netters,

Does anyone know of any adult BBS's that can be accessed via Telnet?
alternatively, if you could point me in the direction of sources of
information, I'd be grateful.

Please reply by email - as this posting is being gatewayed to the Usenet.

Thanks in advance.

Simon.
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From: beezer@cc.utah.edu (BEEZER)
Subject: Re: WWIVNet <-> Internet Gateway Help Needed
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Salt Lick, UT
Distribution: alt.bbs
Date:  7 Jan 1993 13:03 MST  


WARNING TO THE INTERNET/WWIVNET !!!

	The WWIVnet side of the gateway pays for pick-up and delivery
to/from the INTERnet...  It also pays for pick-up and delivery to/from
the WWIVnet...  The host of that gateway is kind enough to absorb the
cost, but asks that it is used in moderation; no mail-lists, listserv
commands, or messages much over 10K.

	I frequently forward news items from the USEnet to the WWIVnet
'newsgroups', and provide the translation of the original author's
INTERnet address for reply by WWIVnetters.  Gawd bless the gateway !!

---

{grin}
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: Alykhan_Virani@mindlink.bc.ca (Alykhan Virani)
Subject: BBS access for internet and telnet
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:48:29 GMT

I'm looking for a BBS that has telent, ftp and internet access in the south
bay region of Los Angeles (310 area code).  Anyone have any local numbers for
access?


much appreciated.
Alykhan_Virani@mindlink.uucp
From: peter@globv1.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:12:48 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

rjus@uonline.com (ren_just) writes:

>Some applications that have been developed include a link between
>MicroSoft Mail and the TBBS email system via a Novell network.  Another
>has included TBBS linked to a DOS-based telemetry system.  Both of these
>would have been difficult to implement under UNIX.

Why are they difficult to implement under UNIX? Why is it important to have
a Novell network running and why can't the telemetry system not run in a
DOS emulator under UNIX (like VP/ix or Merge/386)?

>UNIX installations
>only comprise about 2-3% of the installed micro base.  DOS machines hold
>85%+ of the base, so it is not surprising that a DOS oriented solution
>is going to occur more often.

And TBBS systems have a sub 0.01% market share and TBBS ain't DOS. How much
of the market share are BBS systems anyway?

>As a side note, FoxBASE+ is no longer the chosen environment of xBASE
>developers.

Is TDBS hot stuff?
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: FidoNet gateway
From: rxdst1@.cis.pitt.edu (Richard Dennis)
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:29:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Organization: Quad-Tech Systems BBS 412-262-4794


Can any one tell me How do I send a message through FidoNET to get to
someone on the INTERNET.. you cam reply via FIDONET 1:129/1 address to
Richard Dennis. I am trying to send a message to my wife in England .. a
friend of hers is getting marry.. So I would like repies  PLEASE.
 
Richard Dennis : Quad -Tech Systems' BBS 412-262-4794
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From: weiser@parc.xerox.com (Mark Weiser)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:10:55 GMT
Organization: Xerox PARC

manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve Manes) writes:

>Apple >licensed< the PARC Star technology from Xerox.  It didn't
>steal it.  Apple's beef with Microsoft concerned trespassing of
>Apple's license with Xerox.

This is just wrong.  The veracity of articles in computer magazines is
not very good.  Apple never licensed any user interface technology
from PARC.  For a more definitive story, see pages 241-242 of the book
"Fumbling the Future: How Xerox Invented, then Ignored, the First
Personal Computer", written by two business school people (William
Morrow, New York, 1988), or see the article in the September 1983
issue of Fortune entitled "The Lab That Ran Away From Xerox".  Both
places document that while Apple and Xerox tried to have discussions,
they always "fizzled", and basically Apple and Jobs took what they saw
of the Xerox interface in the Alto of 1979 and the Star of 1981, and
just borrowed it (and a few PARC people like Tesler) to bring out the
macintosh in '84.

-mark
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From: thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams [SysOp])
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: SOME ONE TELL mE
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 09:15:04 EST
Organization: Runic Writings / Lawrenceville, GA

ms496s553@sycom.mi.org (Mark Foren) writes:

> I called this local Board that was listed in a MAGAZINE and it supposedly has
> ELITE-Net ...and some sorta 0 day Files or Sumtin...Hmm Has anyone come 
> accross this system...It listed on in Tennesse xxx-xxx-xxxx that was down so
> called the Other one xxx-xxx-xxxx...

  Has anyone ever told you you're well and truly a stupid fuck?  I just
  thought I'd pass that along.


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From: jmccorm@a.cs.okstate.edu (MCCORMICK JOSHUA C)
Subject: Re: Your one stop GRAPHICS shop!
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:01:18 GMT

From article <38346@cbmvax.commodore.com>, by chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green):
> 	The quality loss from reducing your 24 bit data to only 256 colors
> (GIF) is much higher than the loss from a jpeg compression.

On standard 8 bit data files, however, the situation is reversed. In either
case, you need not waste time with a GIFLITE picture converting it into a
viewable format.

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From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: Re: Your one stop GRAPHICS shop!
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:34:42 GMT

In article <C0CwsA.J68@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au> Me, Myself & I writes:
>dejesus@saturn.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus) writes:
>
>>>   The Graphics BBS currently runs on an IBM AT at 8mHz with 4 meg of
>>Yikes! Is that one over-taxed machine or what?
>Actually, I've seen an IBM XT bbs. Not that it actually lasted that long or
>anything. Heard it blew up after 3 days.

	Well, the first ever bbs, CBBS (sitting here next to chinet)
	started as a CP/M machine in 1978.  15 years later, it is running
	on a v20 equiped Xt in CP/M emulation mode.  Hasn't blown
	up yet.
	[followups redirected to alt.bbs]

	-randy
	
-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
From: hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft)
Subject: Re: Your one stop GRAPHICS shop!
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:33:14 GMT

In <1ih060INNc8m@cc.tut.fi> jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Kouhia Juhana) writes:


>JPEG is roughly standard for the compressing still images.
>Thus it is image format. Image format is the format where images are
>kept. Jpeg is specially designed to store images not text files, for
>example.
>Am I missing something important here?

JPEG=compression method, JFIF=File format that is used for '.jpg' files.

>GIF compress too, thus it is not image format?

Yes. LZW=compression method, GIF=File format that is used for '.gif' files.
-- 
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Bijvoet Center for Biomolecular Research, University of Utrecht
The Netherlands ===== hooft@chem.ruu.nl (hooft@hutruu54.bitnet)
====Use a Real Operating System on your 386: Linux is FREE!====
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