From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Some answers to Mr.Skinny on Astrology.
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:02:31 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

This is response to " skinny " who is really a pea-brained person as far
as his outrageous remarks towards Astrology goes. Mr.Skinny does not the
following facts:

(1) The naked-eye observations, made centuries ago, have been confirmed 
    via telescopic recordings, since the times of Galelio. Astrology based
    on the observations therefrom has also been used in predicting the
    " future " to some degree of accuracy.

(2) Predicting the future with the knowledge of the past and present, and,
    using one's judgement is what is scientific. I am not claiming that
    astrology is perfect, and, is the end-all of all human endeavor. Thus,
    the approach, based, on the position of the heavenly bodies and the
    repeated occurrence of some events in human life, have been roughly
    construed as being correlated.

(3) In Random Signal Analysis (see the book by A.Papoulis, Mr.Skinny), there
    are defined random processess - which themselves have a mathematical
    form. What our fantastic communication theory does is to compute the
    (i) autocorrelation (ii) autovariance (iii) mean (iv) variance and the
    like and find out how the a discrete, random sequence will behave when
    passed thru' a filter (described by the Z-transform). Thus, apparently
    random, unpredictable processes also have a mathematical form, acceptable
    by the " civilized West " - your abode of bliss. It is conjectured from
    the nature of the astrology, that, such pdfs could exist, although there
     is *no* strict mathematical proof for all this. The basis of " matched
     filter " (used in all airborne radars) is based on this random process
    and Z-transform. 

 (4) The factor of uncertainity is a fundamental component in Nature. Have
     you heard of the Uncertainity Principle, Mr.Skinny ??? The law, in its
     approximate form, says that momentum and postion of a photon cannot be
     predicted with certainity. (I am assuming that you know this, because
     you have made all A's till date - you say so.) To understand the full
     implication of uncertainity principle, please know what is a Fourier
     Transform, and, then read some works of Werner R.Hisenberg (discoverer
     of the Uncertainity Principle, 1932) - who explains what this is all
     about. The bottomline is: Nature obeys statistical laws. The famous
     Schrodinger equation, expresses the probability of finding an electron
     in a volume of space. Thus, seeking to obtain a statistical 
     interpretation of human existence, is not only appropriate, but, highly
     scientific. 

 (5) The question whether astrology governs human life only or not needs to
     be studied. In fact, astrology has not been studied scientifically as
     other subjects. This partly because of bigots like you, who view the
     whole world as grossly deterministic. (Einstien also did say " God does
     play dice with the Universe ", but, he could not *disprove* what the
     Statistical Theory of Quantum Mechanics predicted. In fact he showed, 
     much to his dismay, that, his theory of relativity and statistical theory
     as propounded by Max Born do *not* quarrel with each other ! The effort
     is what is now known as " Quantum Theory of Gravity ".

 (6) The four fundamental forces (electromagnetic, gravitational, weak and
     strong), have been united - or are being attempted to be united. This
     is basically what exists in the " lifeless " world. How about the world
     which comprises of entities that can think, i.e have some grey matter,
     and are not basically instintive like animals ?? What force operates
     them to act ? This was the motivation for studying the effect of the
     stars and etc. on human actions, fate etc. This, probably answers the
     question in (5), at least partially. The ancients long had recognized
     the existence of psychic forces that influence humans. When and how
     and where is unknown , or, at best random. However, a full-blown theory,
     that can be published in SIAM Journal of Applied Mathematics has not
     been developed. Will it ever be possible ? I dunno ! Maybe, maybe not !
     But what is the harm in trying, in place of mud-slinging at others ?

 (7) I must hasten to conclude by saying that your comments are most bigoted
     and thus unscientific. Science is *not* necessarily deductive. In many
     instances, intuitive insight has offered the solution. It then became
     the task to develop the idea into mathematical form. (This is what I
     mean by " inspiration "). Thus, castigating what has not been proved,
     or perhaps beyond the horizons of your philosophies, tantamounts to a
     neo-Nazi attitude - typifying a proselyte of a lesser god. I hope that
     in the U.S you have read Shakespeare's Hamlet. That Bard of the Prophets
     said: " There are many things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
             Than are dreamt of your in your philosophy "

 (8) Lastly, astrology is *not* the answer to your fate   probability distribution function approach. Your fate is controlled
     by something that I guess, even a person like you don't know.

   I hope that is too much of a dose for you now. If you find the above 
   citings boorish, or, not of the rock-'n'-roll (p)Elvis Pristley type,
   I am sorry ! But, I couldn't care less and was prompted to post this
   on alt.astrology, seeing the fleeing fate of readers from the skinny
   aggression.

        - dc
  











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