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From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: [Republicans] On Civil Liberties and Drugs
Keywords: New-Speak
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:00:54 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In article <5d6-k9@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
>>I guess you agree, then, that employers are entitled to require sexual favors
>>in order to grant employment, that they should freely be able to discriminate
>And just how many employees do you think would work for a company that
>did these sorts of things?  How long do you think the company would
>stay in business?  All the things you mention would have a severely
>negative impact on the costs of operation of the business.  The company
>wouldn't last long, unless they got protection from the government.
	You act as if these things weren't already going on, despite
	government attempts to curtail them.  One can only imagine how bad
	it would be if the practices mentioned were not currently 
	proscribed.  I keep hearing this argument that says that because
	descrimination and sexual harassment are bad for business that
	they will wither away.  Clearly, not all that is bad for business
	is eschewed by business.  One need only look at Detroit to see how
	long companies can adhere to self-destructive policies.  The
	behavior of American auto companies vis-a-vis the Japanese competition
	was manifestly bad for business yet we all see how long it takes to
	root out practices that are "bad for business".  All positions that
	argue for a "pure" free market to solve all our problems forget the
	impact of culture on business.  Not all business behavior is rational.
	Clearly, culture contributes a great deal of hysteresis to the 
	nice economic models used by the pure free market crowd.



							smg
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki)
Subject: Re: Robitussen (DM is it?) and long term side effects
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:57:27 GMT

In article <Bw3DI7.35y@ddsw1.mcs.com> zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh) writes:
>
>	A friend of mine has asked if there are any long term side effects
>with use of Robitussen.  I didn't know of any, but I'm not exactly Mr.
>Robitussen expert.  Anyone know of long term side effects? Thanks.

Dunno about long-term, but I've taken the local equivalent (I take it DM
stands for dextromethorfan) a couple of times for a cough, i.e. not to get 
high, and it's incredible how dizzy I feel throughout the next day or so.
Just a normal dosage for cough and bang! Ad. 20 hours of dizziness, and not
a pleasurable one. I suspect it's due to the DM in it. I doubt that salbutamol
has anything to do with it. Oh yes, the coughing will stop, but given the
acute side-effects I don't think I'll use it again, and certainly will be
cautious about prescribing it in the future. I guess most people will have
no problems with it. Some even drink it for amusement purposes, heh.

/ep
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [Republicans] On Civil Liberties and Drugs
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:40:49 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>: 
>:      Depends on how many employers decide they'd like to make the same
>: requirement. Look at what happened when a lot of companies started
>: drug testing; it's very difficult to get a job (in some fields) these
>: days without pissing in a bottle. (Of course, these days, it's hard to
>: get a job.)
>
>How many would do so if the testing were not mandated by the government?
>I expect that it would be very few. And they would quit when they found
>that their competitors were doing fine without resorting to the tests.

     Plenty of companies that have nothing to do with the government
are drug testing. Blockbuster Video and Heckinger's come to mind
immediately. A lot of retail positions now require drug testing. These
tests are not mandated by the government.

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From: v094px3a@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian Mauger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD and memory
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:06:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <16113@mindlink.bc.ca>, Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North) writes...
>Can anyone comment on this topic? Does anyone claim their memory to have
>improved due to LSD, or deteriorated?
> 
>Thanks for reading.
> 
>Marc
>--
>Marc North  --  The Lanceholder's Group

After using a significant amount in a short period of time, I notice that my 
short term memory becomes extremely poor.  After not using for a while, though,
everything goes back to normal.  I guess it just takes my brain a little while
to get used to "reality" again.
From: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dangerous Drug (Was: Re: We'll all burn in hell!)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:12:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) says:

>In article <j1moody-151092134136@hesmac32.hesburgh.lab.nd.edu> j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Humpty Dumpty) writes:
>
>   >Instead of listening to sister Lucille, why not listen to Christ?
>   >I think you'll find a man quite different than what so many today portray 
>   >him as. . .talk about an open-minded radical.
>
>Dateline: the world.  
>
>A dangerous drug continues to affect the minds of people all over the
>world.  This drug is known to have caused wars, motivated people to
>sabotage, terrorism, and torture, and is considered extremely
>addictive.  The drug causes people to lose their sense of control over
>their own destiny. 
>
>Yes, the drug Religion is loose on the streets, and should be
>considered dangerous.  Just say no to this scourge upon humanity.
>
>Some signs that your loved one may be on Religion:
>
>Talking to an invisible person with head bowed and hands folded.
>Speaking in unintelligible languages.
>Sending money for no reason to someone on television.
>Disappearing for several hours on Sunday mornings.


If you are addicted to this drug, religion, you might have these
other symptoms:

Condeming others who don't believe as you do
Close mindedness
Belief that things can be changed by supernatural beings
Belief *in* supernatural beings
Making wishes to supernatural beings (called "praying" by addicts)
Viewing unexplained events as being caused by supernatural beings
(sometimes called "miracles").

Not all addicts have all symptonms....
>
>

-- 
"We're desperate, Get used to it,
  It's kiss or kill" - X
From: bbs.cch@GOONSQUAD.SPIES.COM (Carl Huben)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nitrous Redux
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:10:51 GMT
Organization: Spies in the wire, information co-op -- (408) 867-7400

No, no, no! The Micronox cylinders ARE nitrous oxide.  The
torch is designed to burn a mixture of nitrous oxide and butane.
The mixture burns *much* hotter than a butane-only flame.

Additionally, butane is not the deadly poison some previous
poster claimed.  My friends and I have inhaled butane, then
exhaled into a flame with no ill effects (other than occasionally
singed arm hair).

cch@goonsquad.spies.com
From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: READ THIS!!!  Mj-Recipe FAQ
Keywords: buds, cough, alternative, consumption
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:02:44 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

I am proposing to be the "archiver" of a marijuana recipe FAQ.  I need people
to send me any* recipes that they might have, and I'm asking you to spend a
little of your precious on-line time to send me your personal favorites.

I am doing this because I am a neo-professional singer, and have been having
problems with the smoke factor.  Thus, I want a better method of consumption,
and here I am.

I'm sure that there are MANY people who would prefer to eat buds rather than
smoke em, and I hope to put together a pretty good list for them... so type
"R" right now and at least tell me that you have* a recipe somewhere, and I'll
remind you later to send it to me.

If I get a good response (I hope), maybe we could add it to the Mj-Eating
section of the pot FAQ.

Thank you for your bandwidth and brain cell usage.

-- 
It is better to light a candle then to curse the darkness....
mtymp15@epx.cis.umn.edu  OR  muffman@tfsquad.mn.org

meow
From: dlaird@terapin.com (Delbert Laird)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Ecstasy
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:45:15 PST
Organization: BBS

Well, my girlfriend and have finally tried it.

We both took it after a good 6 hours after eating anything.  (Capsule form)
My girlfriend then ate a banana about 15 minutes later (I had one 20 mins
later)....She first felt the effects roughly 1 hour after ingestion.  I felt
the first effects and hour and a half later.

The X played out strong for about an hour to two hours (and a bit longer for my
girlfriend)....After the peaking, we kinda began feeling lethargic and just
talked and talked and talked.

BTW- We tried to have intercourse (I maintained the ability to stay hard),
however, neither of us felt any decent tactile/sexual stimulation....It felt
more "right" with our clothes on and just touching one another.

It's an experience I'm definately going to try again....The ecstasy that is.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ap.5288@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] price of lsd
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.5288@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:00:30 GMT


So, just out of curiosity,

	how much is the price of Lewis D where you live,
	I have heard that in adelaide , australia where ilive,
	it is around 5

bye.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: Clinton: "I am adamantly opposed to legalization of drugs!"
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:18:52 GMT

It may be a breakthrough that drug legalization was brought up in a presidential
debate, but it's even more of a breakthrough that both the bipartisan monopoly
and the "Independent" proved themselves to be pure irrational, fascist
supporters of the drug jihad.

Clinton said that he knows the most about drugs because of his brother.  He
didn't even know enough to inhale!  I've had friends and acquaintances who've
been imprisoned for drug possession.  The USA has the highest incarceration
rate in the world!  The price of cocaine has gone down, the supply is up,
police seize the property of innocent people...

I'm mad.  This is intolerable.


Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Cocaine
From: RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson)
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:36:25 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories


...for what it's worth, another article from the Boston Globe, 10/1/92, 
page 2, Medical Notebook column by Judy Foreman (written permission 
pending);

_Cocaine use is found to affect brain of fetus_

  Cocaine taken during pregnancy clearly affects the developing brain of 
the fetus, a team of Massachusetts General Hospital researchers has 
written in today's issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of 
Sciences.
  They found that in rats, cocaine disrupts cells in a delicate area of 
the brain called the suprachiasmatic nuclei, which acts as a "biological 
clock" to regulate daily rhythms, including sleep and waking cycles.
  The next step, they said, is to see if these changes translate into real 
disruptions in circadian rhythms and whether these occur in infants of 
cocaine-using mothers. Previous studies have shown babies of cocaine 
addicts are more irritable than other babies.

No wonder why rats are up all night and sleep all day.

Rob


Rob Robertson
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Presidential debate Oct 24, 1992.
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:37:02 GMT

In article <1barstINNt5i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aphrael@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert D West) writes:
>Milton Friedman, among others, have urged - we need to do something
>along the lines of legalization?
>
>Bush, Perot, and Clinton all refused to accept that idea - Perot and
>Clinton citing crack babies and Clinton talking about his brother
>who went through a drug rehab. 
>
>But doesn't the fact that such a question could get asked at all
>in a nationally televised debate give the idea some credibility
>and indicate that, however strong the WOD is, our side is having
>some success?

Yes, but their answers prove that the pro-legalization activists are not
getting their information out.  One of the candidates responded with a
purely anecdotal story; the other two cited a myth.  If they thought the 
so-called "crack babies" (really Fetal Alcohol Syndrome babies) were
important, they would advocate Alcohol Prohibition.

No wonder they're afraid to debate Marrou.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: pertinax@raley.Gwinnett.COM (Pertinax)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Crack Babies
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:44:30 GMT

I am writing an article for a skeptic's newsletter about "crack
babies" and am looking for information.  Specifically, anything that might
not show up in a general library search.  And before I get flamed, I realize
there's no such thing as a "crack baby" (I'm a scientist, not a politician).

I'm not intimately familiar with searching medical indexes, so any help would
be appreciated.  I will post the article when I'm done.  Thanks.


						Pertinax@raley.gwinnett.com
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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Clinton: "I am adamantly opposed to legalization of drugs!"
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:15:43 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I did hear a story from my friend, Dennis, who is the Southern regional
>coordinator of the LP in Indiana.  He told me that Andre was rousted
>out of his hotel by Secret Service people along with a number of other 
>people on the same floor because Bush and his entourage were going to
>use that hotel.  The story is that Marrou first protested that as a
>legitimate candidate on the ballot of all 50 states, they should be
>protecting him, not trying to throw him out of his room.  Marrou and
>company then left but returned with the press and, rather than
>face a potentially embarrassing situation, the SS relented -- thus
>Bush and Marrou were sharing the same floor at the hotel.  I have
>no way to verify any of this -- I'm just passing on the story the
>way it came to me ...
>
>-- 
>paul hager		hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu


For those of you at home who have been keeping score on the disintegration
of civil rights in America, this is the first step in the direction of
neutralizing the last remaining provision in the Bill of Rights: the
Third Amendment.


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
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  atfurman@cup.portal.com  |   (800)682-1776 for more information
From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: Re: Clinton: "I am adamantly opposed to legalization of drugs!"
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:27:10 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

In article <1992Oct12.044051.24852@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
> I just wanted to be a stickler for a moment. Paul Hager, commenting on
>Mr. Bush's "laid-backedness", quipped that maybe they should cut his
>Halcion dosage down a "few milligrams". I just wanted to split hairs and
>point out that Halcion is dispensed in sub-milligram dosages or only
>slightly above 1mg. He must be getting whopping doses at any rate... ;-)
>
>St. Anthony

	What's this? Paul not knowing his information properly! Oh no!! :-)
:-) Anyway, I hate both Bush + Clinton, and I have no opinion of Perot. At
times it seems like he has his heart in the right place, but at other times
it looks like he's just out for the attention..

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Wed Oct 14 23:00:43 1992 US Debt: $4,095,725,071,168 Per capita: $16,026
From: bmasel@igc.apc.org (Ben Masel)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: I'M RUNNING FOR SHERIFF
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:12:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1301300193:cdp:1301300194:000:2222
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bmasel    Oct 10 01:12:00 1992


						516 E Mifflin #4
						Madison, WI 53703
						608-257-5456 Oct.
						4, 1992

Rick Raemisch, Dane County Sheriff 210 Martin Luther King Blvd.

	As I am sure you are aware, I have declared my candidacy
for the office you currently hold, and to which you seek
re-election. I have registered my candidacy with the Dane County
Clerk. This letter formally notifies you of my intention to
personally campaign among the elegible voters in your custody at
the Dane County Jail and Ferris Center. I intend to visit these
prisoners in company of a voter registrar. We will be willing to
submit to a search before entering secured areas.

	You are reported in the Oct. 1 Isthmus as being unwilling
to approve my visit citing security concerns.  In view of my
willingness to co- operate on particulars in arranging access, I
can only conclude that your real reason for obstructing such
visits is concern for your job security.

	If this is indeed the case I believe your use of your
position to obstruct my campaign activity constitutes malfeasance
sufficient to cause your removal from office and criminal
prosecution. In any event I am prepared to bring action before the
Wisconsin Elections Board and/or Dane County Circuit Court to
compel access to all eligible voters in your custody.

	I also hereby request (persuent to the Wisconsin Open
Records Law) to be informed of any arrangement your department has
made to enable all eligible voters in your custody on Nov. 3 to
exercise their right to vote, and to inform them of the steps they
must take to do so. When I was in custody in the Ferris Center in
1986 I was told prisoners would only be allowed to vote by
absentee ballot. This is insufficient, as it disenfranchises any
individual placed in custody after the absentee voting deadline. I
strongly recomend you immediately take steps to insure sufficient
staffing for Nov. 3 that prisoners unable to vote absentee may be
safely escorted to their designated polling place. Since there are
candidates for Federal office on the Ballot this year, your
failure to do so could violate Federal, as well as Wisconsin,
Election Law.

					Tenaciously yours, Ben
					Masel Write-In Candidate
					for Dane County Sherriff
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike)
Subject: Mushies...
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: alt
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:37:48

Hi folks,

 Suppose I had this friend of a friend, here in Europe, Finland, who'd
like to try to grow some mushrooms - strictly in the name of empirical
science and natural curiosity, of course. Also suppose he had all the
necessary texts and leaflets he needed - actually, the only thing he's
missing is spores...

 What would this guy have to do to get some spores? Could he order
them from a magazine like High Times? Would there be any netters who
maybe could mail some to him? Or are spores illegal in the States?
This guy is quite a curious little fellow, so any information would be
appreciated. Thanks in advance, I will forward anything I hear to him.


--
Cheers,

            Misha

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: Re: Recently.. (bong hits)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:46:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.002532.6144@lclark.edu> matta@lclark.edu (Matt Alexander) writes:
>In article <mtymp15.718428100@staff.tc.umn.edu> mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:
>>I designed a dry-ice bong that is the most powerful device of its caliber
>>i know of.  Constructed with a fishing rod case (aluminum) it packs a serious
>>punch.  When you remove the bong from your face (to which the end is shaped
>>specially) the thickest cloud of pure, freezing cold smoke pours out.
>  
>Uh, wouldn't this give you a lungfull of CO2? How exactly is this device
>constructed?
>
>
>	When I need a little free advice about Saddam Hussein, I turn
>	to country music.
>	    -- President George Bush.

The bong uses ice sprinkled with salt - which we call dry-ice... sorry about
this error on my part.  "real" dry ice would cool the smoke a little TOO much
for most anyone.  Ill post the plan for the bong (it is crude, but might help)
if anyone is interested.  just post so.


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meow
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.atheism,talk.politics.drugs