From: mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (gretchen)
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: bgsu
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:51:23 GMT

In article <u882517.718937555@bruny>, u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
wrote:
> 
> djperry@husc11.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness) writes:
> 
> >Compare Open to Shake Dog Shake.
> 
> No comparison.  "Shake Dog Shake" is searing, blunt and ugly..."Open" follows
> its footsteps (but it's not one of the horror areas of _Wish_).
> 
> >Compare Friday to The Caterpillar.
> 
> My God.  This stretches the bounds of credulity...an acid dizzy pop whirl
> compared to "Friday I'm in Love"?  If there are similarities for you, then
> I don't think there's a lot of point arguing, but for me, one is a classic
> and the other leaves a taste of bitter disappointment.
> 
> >The ENTIRE Japanese Whispers album is more poppy than Wish, especially since all
> >the singles from it were deliberate attempts at pop songs.  As far as I can see,
> 
> 	Yes!  Though I wish it didn't need spelling out, the singles
> compiled on _Japanese Whispers_ were jokes, a sly dig at idiot pop designed
> to stop people taking the Cure so seriously and to enable them to start afresh.
> The lowpoints of _Wish_ are idiot pop done *without* irony, and without the
> redeeming charm or idiosyncracy of "Lullaby" or even "Boys Don't Cry".
> 
> 	As much as people want to be "open-minded" and say that success is OK
> (which it is) and can't understand why getting commercial airplay is anathema
> (which it IS!) the fact remains that the Cure were once a special band with
> intelligent fans, who have now swerved into the tastes of the bland public.
> Whatever you say, the music commercial radio plays is SHIT and if the Cure
> are making inroads there then that is all the proof of a sad demise that
> you need.  If you've only been a fan since, say, the 90% appaling "Kiss Me
> Kiss Me Kiss Me" then you just won't understand, because the back catalogue
> will always be just the back catalogue to you, and you won't have known
> what it was like when they were important.  _Disintegration_ was a miracle,
> a return to beauty I thought had gone forever, but _Mixed Up_ and _Wish_
> have continued the saddening process that really started with the singles
> collection.
> 
> 			Sorry.  That's how it is for me.
> 
> 				Matthew

 No doubt- I can entirely relate to what you are saying. I love the Cure
and their music...as I stated earlier, but there was something lost along
the way. I don't know what it is but it's not the same anymore. I didn't
jump on the Cure bandwagon after Disintergration came out (like many
did...and there's nothing wrong with it)..but I've been here listening to
the Cure for several several years....and Wish isn't them. I do agree that
with each album the Cure change, but this time something was lost. If you
ever get the chance to read Ten Imaginary Years, a compiled imported book
about the Cure's first 10 years, you might understand what I'm saying. If
you read the interviews between all the members (and I mean all the
members- Hartley, Anderson,etc.) there's more subtance there than in the
interviews that I read today in Spin, Alternative Press or I see on MTV. I
even notice it in their videos too. When they first started out the videos
were good, somewhat rescricted probably because of money...but then they
evolved into masterpieces and creativty. The Walk, Let's go to Bed, Hanging
Garden, the orginial Close to Me, Primary....they reflected the subtance
the Cure had. When I first watched the videos from Picture Show---I enjoyed
them..there is a lot of good stuff (Lullaby, Hot Hot Hot, possibly Never
Again, etc) but I felt they weren't as creative as the previous videos.
Now...the only video that can clearly say that I like is the video for
Friday I'm in Love ( not the concert version one) I have gotten the opinion
that the Cure has replaced their creativity with footage from Wish tours
and just them standing around playing. I haven't bought the recent video
Play-out (or whatever) so I could be mistaken, but when I looked at the
back cover it looked like there was a lot of that kind of stuff like the
footage from Unplugged...I'm not bad mouthing today's Cure, but I just
don't see the Cure that I have spent so long listening to...I see it in
their music, their interviews, and in their videos......they may be
successful now, but success takes a lot away from you..and I think it took
a loy away from what the Cure was all about. Thanks for listening-gm