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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:09:32 GMT

In article <92226.113842ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.165559.6298@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,
>littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu says:
>>bag. I suspect that the real estate market (in terms of leasing) is similar
>>throughout; 12 month leases (possibly 6 month), especially in college
>>communities.
>
>     You sir, are correct.  I've never even heard of a 9-month lease, and I
>can't imagine a market where an owner would take one unless there was a
>pretty significant financial depression somewhere in there...
>
>
>Brett

Well, Ann Arbor is an "owner's market" and there are plenty of 
8 month leases to be had (Univ. of Michigan's academic year is 
only 8 months).  Many places offer the leaser a choice of 
an 8 or 12 month lease.  Of course, the rent on an 8 month 
lease is higher so landlords can get a year's worth of cash 
in 8 months (well, maybe not THAT much higher, but a significant 
ammount).  


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From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Freshman Dorm... a review
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:42:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK

CBS ran the first episode of 'Freshman Dorm' last night...

It was a total joke.

The dorms looked like the high dollar apartments we have in Norman, where
$650/month gets you a huge 3 bedroom w/ all the heavy appliances, and $350
can get you a 1100 square foot 2 bedroom with the same toys. I wish
the dorms here were that nice, if they were I might still be in them.

Lulu was a total joke.  If she has all that money, then why the hell is
she in a dorm with two other people?  She'd be in a single, or out of the 
dorm completely, in real life.

The Hispanic girl (forgot the name, sorry) seems to be dense as well.  She
has this image she's trying to hide, and another she's trying to establish,
but I don't think working at a greasy spoon just off campus is going to 
help either...

Coed BATHROOMS????  You can't be serious...  I know I'm in the middle of
the Bible Belt and the show is based in California (at fictional Western
Pacific University), but I can't see a housing programs type person anywhere
in the U.S.A. having that.

Someone needs to tell the people who designed to set of the dorm lounge
that anything not bolted down or weighing 3 tons gets destroyed in the 
first week, and that's no gaurantee it won't get trashed anyway.  The
set people are clueless as to what dorms should look like (low income
inner city projects are a close approximation.

I guess CBS wanted a diversion from 90210.  This show is gonna get riped
to shreds to the critics (if they don't, I will lose all faith in quality
television).

I'm sure this discussion will generate a lot of traffic once the fall
semester starts and all the fish start whining that their dorms are
nothing like the ones on TV.

Please email flames... or laurels.

marc

mfoster
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mfoster@metgem.gcn.uoknor.edu
From: yuan1@husc9.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:20:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc9.yuan1.713650808
Distribution: na

ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.154226.2472@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>,
>mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) says:
>>
>>CBS ran the first episode of 'Freshman Dorm' last night...
>>[stuff deleted]
>>Coed BATHROOMS????  You can't be serious...  I know I'm in the middle of
>>the Bible Belt and the show is based in California (at fictional Western
>>Pacific University), but I can't see a housing programs type person anywhere
>>in the U.S.A. having that.

I was always under the impression that Harvard was one of the few schools
WITHOUT coed bathrooms, though my experience is limited to schools in
California and the Northeast.

-nhy

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From: ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: REQUEST from GIRLS:  List of 20 WORST/UNORIGINAL ways to ask a girl
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:59:32 GMT

IN REPONSE TO [shore@tc.cornell.edu]'s REPLY
It says:
>I think there are very few girls here, as the average
>age of an entering freshman is about 18.  I might also
>question the legality of men 18 years of age or older
>hitting on girls - I believe that this is considered to
>be contributing to the delinquency of a minor
>--
>       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu

Well, JUST TO CLARIFY : I GOT NO BAD INTENTION WHEN I ASK A GIRL OUT
                        SO, I AM NOT TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO HAVE SEX
                        WITH FRESHMAN GIRLS, OKAY??

Baldwin Ng (ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: jxu@black.clarku.edu (The Batman!!)
Subject: Question on Mount Holyoke
Organization: Clark University (Worcester, MA)
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:36:37 GMT

Does anyone know when is freshman orientation for Mount Holyoke and when is
the first day of school?  Thank you in advances.
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
From: gtall@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Gerry Allwein)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 11:55:17 GMT

In <1992Aug22.161520.25980@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:

>Perhaps, instead of your mock sincerity, you could discuss a legitimate
>criticism of the methods used at MIT. Or are you all talk and no
>substance? There are quite a number of opinions here, but nobody who
>is intimidated by MIT has yet enlightened us with their opinions on
>Computer Science Education. 

>Jason W. Solinsky

I never criticized MIT's program, only pointed out that one need not go to
MIT or any other elite school to get good education. The main reason someone
learns anything is because of they themselves and their inate drive to learn.

>is intimidated by MIT

Heh? Why?

Gerry


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Subject: Anyone know JAMES CARRUTHERS at UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA??
From: mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       )
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:34:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

Does anyone know James Carruthers at University of Tampa. He has sent
me snail mail from the Computer Centre there, and I would be most
appreciative if you could show/tell him about this message.

I would like to know if he has email priviledges, and if so if he can
reply to me at the address above/below.

AdvaTHANKSnce,
Matt.
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From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.college,talk.religion.misc,talk.origins,sci.math,sci.chem,sci.misc,sci.bio.technology,sci.physics,sci.space
Subject: Re: CONSCIOUSNESS AND SCIENCE DISCUSSION GROUP
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:06:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: samba.1992Aug14.190624.7611
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

[Just a humble request. Could you edit the newsgroups line and remove
soc.culture.indian? I realize that the most original of original 
contributors to this thread probably put it there - but it ceased
to be relevant a while ago. Flames are welcome: via email please..
I apologize to t.r.m,t.o and whatever other newsgroups are lurking 
beyond my 80-column screen people reading this series of articles
for the nth time .. ]

Or better still follow-up to this article ...

In article <1992Aug14.173052.4396@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.023558.5092@panix.com> davidc@panix.com (David C. Chorlian) writes:
>>In <1992Aug12.150756.27716@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>>
>>
>>>     Then briefly tell me how this is reflected in, say, the development
>>>     of Maxwell's equations in a way that it was not reflected in,
>>>     say, the development of Weber's equations or Gauss's law.
>>
>>>     Be brief.
>>
>>Wrong subject of investigation.  
>>	The appropriate one would compare British science
>>and German science, attempting to correlate the relative importance
>>of electromagnetic investigation with comparable fields of physics
>>and chemistry, preferred methods of inquiry, methods of transmission
>>of knowledge, etc. with patterns of social and economic development.
>>Perhaps some interesting aspect of Maxwell's development of
>>electromagnetic theory would emerge, but I rather think the 
>>more interesting figure is Faraday--it's the formative figures
>>who show the influence of the context most significantly.
>
>    Okay.  Compare 'British' and 'German' science and the 'great
>    currents' that required them to be the way they were (Hint: I think
>    you'd have an easier time with Maxwell than Faraday).
>
>    Be brief.
>
>                             dale bass
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>Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
>University of Virginia
>Charlottesville, Virginia                            (804) 924-7926


Be brief. By all means. Be relevant in newsgroups. Be kind.
Be gentle. While flaming, that is ..

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From: gwh@elric.cs.mcgill.ca (Gene W. Homicki)
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Keywords: bathrooms coed 
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:44:55 GMT

> 
> Coed BATHROOMS????  You can't be serious...  I know I'm in the middle of
> the Bible Belt and the show is based in California (at fictional Western
> Pacific University), but I can't see a housing programs type person  
anywhere
> in the U.S.A. having that.
> 
> marc
> 
> mfoster
> mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu
> mfoster@metgem.gcn.uoknor.edu

	Check out Amherst College in Mass.  The dorm that I stayed in when
there on a visit had both single-sex AND coed bathrooms (including a
shower...though with a curtain :^).  I know I've run across similar
situations elsewhere.  I haven't seen the show. so I can't comment 
further.

					--Gene

If you look hard enough, you never know what you can find. ;-)
Newsgroups: soc.college,misc.education
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:11:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.161713.17498@tandem.com>, kenr@orleans.storage.tandem.com (Ken Rose) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug19.091210.12796@athena.mit.edu>, solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
|> > The ultimate result is that the lifetime of C with a majority of the software
|> > engineering industry is VERY VERY limited. If people (who are using their
|> > education only for the purpose of getting a job) are looking to their CS
|> > education to provide them with a strong proficiency in C may be looking for
|> > the wrong thing.
|> >   [deleted]
|> > They should be looking for a proficiency in working within a software
|> > engineering group as a team.
|> 
|> Although I work in hardware design rather than programming [but, hey,
|> I know programmers, some of my best friends are programmers ... :-) ]
|> I would like to second (or third) Jason's comments.

A number of software people have disagreed with me. I think that I should note
that I am a VLSI person. It is enitrely possible that we hardware people are
so entirely impressed with ourselves, that we lean towards my original point.
We figure that software complexity couldn't possibly keep up with hardware
power. I'm still sticking with my original opinion, but I'm admitting that I
have a significant bias.

Jason W. Solinsky
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Subject: RE: Freshman Dorm... a review
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:12:58 GMT


Well, between the posts and the dozen or so mail messages I got, I
guess coed bathrooms do exist out there in Campusland.

Good morning, Marc.  Care to climb out of your hole and look at the 
real world?   :) 

Here at OU we have floors that are coed (2 rooms per suite share a
private bath, suites still homogenious), but that's as far as the
anal-retentives here will let us go.

Also, freshman here ARE required to live in dorms their first year, but
there are ways out of it, especially for the rich, powerful, or
athletic.  The easiest way is to be a 'commuter' student, but live 
2 blocks away and list it as your permanent address.


Marc (feeling a bit more humble today than usual)
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Keywords: freshman dorm show sex
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:16:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.073947.4082@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.154226.2472@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
>>Lulu was a total joke.  If she has all that money, then why the hell is
>>she in a dorm with two other people?  She'd be in a single, or out of the 
>>dorm completely, in real life.
>
>I agree.  In general, most people would rather be out in their own place,
>but aren't because of $$ and the variability of rental units.

Here in Bloomington, it's usually much cheaper to rent than to live in the
dorm.  Yes, Freshmen have no choice but to live on campus or at home.

I paid $525/month to live in a "big" dorm room, which normally would have
been for two people.  I could've had a small room for $425/month (or a
roommate).  However, the small room was ~7 feet wide and maybe 13 feet long.
My room was nearly a 13x13 square.

Renting, you can pay $200/month and live closer to the classes, but with
other people.  I had to walk a mile to class, but that was fine with me.
It's great exercise.

Right now, I'm renting a trailer 2 miles out of town for $200/month.  I could
get a fancy apartment for $400/month.

Anyway, the bottom line is this: dorms are expensive.  I'd suggest renting
for a number of reasons.

BTW: Here in Bloomington, the rental property screw is that you have
to sign a twelve month lease, so you have to pay in the summer too, 
even if you aren't there.  Cheap sublets are available, but I always
suggest people stick around for the summer and get their money's worth.
Alternatively, seek out a place like mine that has no lease.

	Darrin
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:54:22 GMT

ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>In article <1992Aug13.165559.6298@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,
>littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu says:
>>bag. I suspect that the real estate market (in terms of leasing) is similar
>>throughout; 12 month leases (possibly 6 month), especially in college
>>communities.

>     You sir, are correct.  I've never even heard of a 9-month lease, and I
>can't imagine a market where an owner would take one unless there was a
>pretty significant financial depression somewhere in there...

And I have heard of a few 15 month leases around here.  That's a
screw job...both summers..ugh.
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Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,soc.culture.indian
From: sisodiya@cis.ohio-state.edu (Sanjeev Sisodiya)
Subject: Looking for Vibeka Gupta at ASU..
Originator: sisodiya@glinda.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:44:18 GMT

Hi,

I am looking for the email address of the College of Journalism
and Broadcast at Arizona State University.  In particular I am looking
Vibeka Sen Gupta a new indian student in that deparment - if anyone
can be of assistance I'd appreciate it.

- Sanjeev
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: diop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony Shawn Johnson)
Subject: Thanks for info on minimum gpa
Originator: diop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:32:17 GMT

I wish to thank everyone for the information about minimun gpa
for grad school. I not close but I can get there in three years.
From: mlin@sal-sun101.usc.edu (Minmin Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: appliactions
Date: 22 Aug 1992 15:21:57 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun101.usc.edu


In article <1992Aug21.195006.19199@unlv.edu>, rajesh@unlv.edu (Rajesh Viswanathan) writes:
|> 
|> I'm planning to start applying to grad schools for my PhD, do most
|> schools have a way by which I can request apps by electronic mail
|> or do I have to go through the traditional method (US Mail!) Any
|> info regarding will be appreciated 
|> Please direct any e-mail replies to v_viswan@unsvax.nevada.edu
|> 
|> Thanx
|> Rajesh
|> -- 
|> Rajesh
|> :::Boswell: I do indeed come from Scotland, but I cannot help it:::
|> :::Johnson: That, Sir, I find, is what a very great many of your:::
|> :::countrymen cannot help.					:::

Me too, especially info about the Ph.D. program in electrical/computer
engineering. 

Please reply to mlin@nunki.usc.edu

Thanks a lot,

Minmin Lin
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Laurel Hellerstein)
Subject: Re: GRE & GPA, which is more important?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:07:10 GMT

In article <77750@ut-emx.uucp> chitwong@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (wong chit) writes:
>Hi, for those who have experiences in applying graduate school, do you think
>that GRE & GPA are more crucial to your acceptance by the University. 
>Preferrably, you could also provide the name of the schools which are more
>willing to have higher GPA or GRE students.  In particular, I will be most 
>interested in knowing the standards of each CS and EE departments of the 
>major universities.
>
>Thank your for your inputs! :> !
>
>Patrick
>

Patrick-

Although I am not an admissions officer I hear plenty from my colleagues
as to what is going on in grad admissions these days.  I understand
that applications to graduate schools have jumped to an all time high.
The consensus is that this jump in admissions is due to the current
recession and people being layed off from their jobs.  Rather than
sit on the couch many folks are deciding to go back to school and
complete advanced degrees.  

From what I understand now I would never have been accepted into
the program I received my Ph.D from based upon both my GREs and
GPA.  Competition is very stiff.  Most grad programs are so swamped
with applications that they begin the weeding out process by going
both to GPA and GREs equally... a criteria is set and if it is not
met they don't even go to the trouble to read the rest of the application
material.  This may sound harse but departments that are used to
20 application for 5 slots are now receiving 500 applications.  The
committees have no choice but to follow this procedure.

I would say that both measures of academic ability are weighed
equally and that if you don't get the scores you wanted on your
GRE... take it over again!

Good luck!

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Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,soc.college.grad
From: kaddoura@wombat.cns.syr.EDU (Kaddoura)
Subject: Info needed on the COMPUTER SCIENCE dept at CARLETON,Canada
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:42:00 EDT

Hi there!
	I am a graduate student in Computer Science and would like 
to know the standing, strong research areas, funding etc.. about
the dept of Computer Science at Carleton University, Canada. 

thanks in advance,
-Mahar Kaddoura
From: kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sung Hyun Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: GRE & GPA, which is more important?
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:38:09 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <l8vqcfINNcjc@news.bbn.com> hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
>In article <ELM.92Aug15022000@terrorism.berkeley.edu> elm@cs.berkeley.edu  
>(ethan miller) writes:
>> Both are important.  GREs are used as a rough filter by many of the
>> good schools (MIT excepted).  
>
>Is MIT's non-interest in GREs across-the-board, or is that just for the CS?  I  
>was planning on sending off to them for application materials, but I haven't  
>done so yet..
>-------------
>Paul Hagstrom (hagstrop@carleton.edu)

It's just for the CS..(or there might be some other depts..)   The usual
other depts DOES get GRE scores.\

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From: chitwong@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (wong chit)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,soc.college.grad,soc.college
Subject: GRE & GPA, which is more important?
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:52:03 GMT
Followup-To: soc.college.gradinfo
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: chitwong@doc.cc.utexas.edu

Hi, for those who have experiences in applying graduate school, do you think
that GRE & GPA are more crucial to your acceptance by the University. 
Preferrably, you could also provide the name of the schools which are more
willing to have higher GPA or GRE students.  In particular, I will be most 
interested in knowing the standards of each CS and EE departments of the 
major universities.

Thank your for your inputs! :> !

Patrick


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