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From: DAVISM@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
Subject: RE: HD icon locked (Summary)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:00:04 GMT


In article <1992Dec11.144750.332@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, I wrote:

>
>	We have a Mac IIcx running 7.0.1, with AfterDark, SAM and TOPS.  The
>HD icon is displayed as a "generic document" (i.e. plain dog-eared page).  If
>we try to Cut/Clear the icon, or attempt to Paste another icon into the Get
>Info box, a dialog pops up telling us "The command could not be performed,
>because it could not be found."  We _are_ able to rename the HD icon.  This
>also does not seem to depend on SAM or TOPS, as I have tried rebooting without
>them active with the same results.  (I didn't try booting w/o AfterDark.)  I
>have also attempted to "unlock" the icon via the utility UnlockFolder mentioned
>in a recent thread here, without success.  Can anyone ofer a suggestion?
>

	The definitive answer was that the hard disk was set to use a custom
icon, but an icon resource file did not exist.  Thanks to rang@gnu.ai.mit.edu
and dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt), for providing the reason for the problem as
well as the fix.  Here are Dave's instructions:

<[1] Create an empty folder.
<[2] Select any application, do a Get Info, select its icon, and Copy.
<[3] Select the empty folder, do a Get Info, select its icon, and Paste.
<[4] Launch ResEdit.  Do a "Get info on file/folder".  Navigate to the
<    empty folder, and select the Icon file within this folder.
<[5] In the get-info window in ResEdit, turn off the "Invisible" bit for
<    the icon file.  Close the window, and say Yes when ResEdit asks if
<    it should save the resources.
<[6] Go back to the Finder.  Open the "empty" folder.  You should now see
<    the Icon file in that folder.
<[7] Open the disk window if it isn't already open.  Option-drag (copy,
<    _not_ move!) the Icon file from the folder window to the disk
<    window.
<[8] Go back into ResEdit.  Navigate to, do Get Info on, and turn off the
<    "invisible" bits for both Icon files.
<[9] Reboot.
<
<You should now observe that the disk has the same icon as the folder.
<
<[10] Select and do a Get Info on the disk, select the icon, and Clear.
<[11] Throw away the empty folder and empty the trash.

							Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: startup items not working...
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:59:00 GMT

ccw@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (wood,christopher) writes:
: My office-mates' macintosh (Mac IIci, 20 MB RAM, 7.0.1 with tuneup,
: extension manager and bunches of other inits, internal and external hard
: drives with lots of free space, Supermac 21" color monitor and board)
: has suddenly developed a problem I've never seen before:  None of the
: startup items start up.  All the rest of the inits work.  We've
: reinstalled the software from locked floppies, scanned with
: disinfectant, deleted the startup items folder and restarted, and put
: aliases back in the newly recreated folder.  I've run out of ideas...
: 
: The only thing odd is that he's starting up from an external HD (A
: micronet 240 MB, with two low-level partitions.)  The problem started
: after his internal HD crashed; we reformatted, and restored from
: backups, but now no startup items...
: 
: Has this happened to anyone before?  How did you fix it?
: 

The only time I have seen something like this, it turned out that there was
a second system folder on another partition.  They were not running the system
that they thought they were.

I'd check the startup device (click once on the drive icon in the top right
corner of the screen and do a get info) and make sure that only one system
file exists on that device.

Otherwise, I am as lost as you.

Greg.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: George J Matey <mateyg@rpi.edu>
Subject: more 16" images:  WHERE???
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7564D268A015538@stormbringer.stu.rpi.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:28:38 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:28:47 GMT

First, a big THANK YOU to everyone who helped me with my graphic
difficulties
and to those who pointed the way to ftp.apple.com for those inital images.
Now, does anyone know of any sites (except apple.com) that contains 
832x648 24-bit color images.  Perhaps some design studio with net access??
What about you guys at NASA?  I would imagine that you would have some
pretty cool images of space and possibly some images of some equipment
somewhere.  I would much appreciate the location (site and if possible
directory) of anywhere that contains 832x648 24-bit color images. 
Thanks!!
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George J Matey                          One lawyer with a briefcase
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute         can steal more money than
email: mateyg@rpi.edu                     a hundred men with guns.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dcbii@rob.raleigh.ibm.com (Dave Barnhart)
Subject: Re: 32 bit addressing in 6.0.8
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:27:01 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

pw@campeau.lucid.com (Paul Wieneke) writes:

>How does one turn on 32-bit addressability in 6.0.8?  There is nothing on
>the control panel for this and I can't find any "memory" control-panel
>documents on any 6.0.8 system disks.  

As has been already mentioned, you can use Optima from Connectix to get
your 32-bit addressing, but if you have that much memory, you should
probably use System 7 anyway.  If your programs are compatible with 32-bit
addressing, then you should have no problems with System 7, since 32-bit
addressing is a very strong test of System 7 compatibility.  I realize that
speed might be a problem, but if that is really the case, than you have
bigger problems than getting 32-bit addressing turned on, since you have so
much memory, but not very much computing power. :)

Dave Barnhart                    email: 70672.1311@Compuserve.com

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From: keesh@wsinti01.info.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: QuickTime & System 7.1 & PowerBook 160 problem
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:28:10 GMT
Reply-To: keesh@info.win.tue.nl
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

priha@tik.vtt.fi (Ilkka Priha) writes:
>Has anyone succesfully played QuickTime movies with PowerBook 160? We

I cannot check it right now, but I rememeber that the manual or readme file
says something like: be sure that your QuickTime software is compatible with
QuickTime 1.5. Is yours?

-- 
Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands
e-mail: keesh@win.tue.nl   telephone: +31-40-474120    fax: +31-40-463992
From: jsuker@orion.oac.uci.edu (Johnathon Suker)
Subject: Where did my color Apple go (menu bar type)?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:24:35 GMT

Netters,

	I have an interesting problem.  While playing a game that required
256 colors I switched the monitor into 16 greys (yes I know bad move, but I
was testing it for someone).  Well, the program flashed up a dialog that
said "This program only runs in 256 colors" and the program proceeded to 
crash.  However, upon restarting the computer would go into a startup, crash
, restart loop.  I finally started up the computer from a floppy and 
replaced the System and Finder.  Now, however, the computer runs correctly
except that the menu bar is black and white (i.e. no color apple and no
full color Help and Application icons) also, the folders on the desktop look
like color folders from System 6.0 (i.e. they are color OUTLINES of folder).
But, all other icons are color (just not the folders).  Any one have any
suggestions, clues? 

					Thanks in advance,

					Johnathon Suker

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University of California, Irvine  | response would be, 'Go To Hell'. If I 
Univeristy Library                | were human.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:21:43 EST
Subject: Re: System 7 on Mac II

Look in mail order sections at the back of macuser/macworld -- i've seen it
listed quite often..
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From: STMQ%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael Quigley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7 on older SE & SE/30 & Classic??
Date: 12 Dec 1992 22:04:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Hi All,

Just a quick question.. I am considering purchasing an older Mac, maybe
an SE/30 or a Classic.. Can System 7 be run on these machines??

- Mike -

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: monitn@rs6414.ecs.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Lost files on desktop. Why?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:09:26 GMT

bmueller@mis.mcw.edu writes:

>Netters...
>   A friend had some files on the desktop. The machine failed and
>required a logic board replacement. When he received the repaired
>machine, he booted up and found the files to be gone.
>	
>Could it be that this is stored in nonvolatile RAM (eg, PRAM) and
>that installation of the new logic board is responsible for the
>loss of the files that way? If not, what might be the explanation?

I don't think that's how it works. I don't remember what 'Get Info' on a 
desktop file does (since I'm away from my Mac right now), but I believe that
files on the desktop [that's what I meant to say above] are stored on the
startup HD (or any HD, I only have 1).

>Thanks in advance.
>...Bob Mueller
>bmueller@mis.mcw.edu

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:17:30 EST
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus software

Roy Smith writes

I actively discourage the use of SAM.  Completely aside from the
facts that it costs money and I find the "scanning disk for viruses" dialog
boxes annoying, it apparantly can be configured in a variety of ways.  Most
of the machines I've seen it installed on have it configured so that you can
abort a disk scan if you like.  What typically happens is I watch somebody
put a floppy in, not want to wait the few seconds to wait for the scan to
finish, and hit the abort button.  Some people seem to have trained
themselves to abort the scan almost automatically every time they put a disk
in.  This makes SAM totally useless.

Well Roy, while I can understand your objection to paying more (I myself use
disinfectant more often than sam, which was bundled with my computer when i
bought it)

Keep in mind
1) Lots of people (network administrators) like the fact that sam is supported
over a network. Only Virex also does this and its future may be in question
since Microcom sold its utilities off.
2)Lots of people also like the security features. If you dont like the
scanning of floppies, turn it off. If you like scanning but dont want to allow
aborting, turn that option off. Sam is very configurable. Disfectant will only
stop a) viruses that already exist. Sam can try to tell you suspicious
activity. Yes, 99.99% of the time, it's just being paranoid and annoying, but
its nice to have the .01% sometimes. b) the init which comes with it does not
actively scan for viruses on floppies (and cant be told to scan the hard drive
manually. you have to run the main application), it only stops you from running
infected applications. Obviously this is a good thing and disinfectant is
wonderful and free. But Sam does do more.
The question should be:
"If I am a computer user, I need a virus protection program. Do I need the
networking and configurablility of sam as well as its ability to scan
compressed files, or do I need a simple scan/disinfect utility?"
The former response is a cry for help for SAM. The latter, which in general, I
admit is about 70-80% of normal mac owners can be smoothed over with
disinfectant.

PS Both are great as far as fast updates. Disinfectant usually has a patch out
within hours-days...Symantec unfortunately takes a day or two more (rarely of
course does this matter) but also mails update cards to registered owners (who
might not have a modem) and maintains a bbs for support and downloading
settings files
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From: bruck@mathj.usc.edu (Ronald Bruck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: QuickTime 1.5 - unimplemented trap?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 11:29:10 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mathj.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec11.131312.208@nhqvax.hq.nasa.gov> Rob Winters <rwinters@nhqvax.hq.nasa.gov> writes:
>I recentlt got ahold of JPEGView 1.1 and was trying to use it
>to display JPEG images. Better than 4 out of 5 did not display
>without errors (brightly colored rectangles and other scrambling).
>
(Some stuff deleted)

I'd suggest getting JPEGView 2.0.  It seems to be much more stable now
(I no longer get random crashes into MacsBug).  I believe it's available
at sumex-aim.stanford.edu.

--Ron Bruck


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sugita@cs.uiuc.edu (Masanori Sugita)
Subject: NEED INFO about SCSI display adapter for PB170
Summary:  I need information about SCSI display adapter for PB170.
Keywords:  display adapter, SCSI, PB170, external monitor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:11:41 GMT

I'm looking for SCSI display adapter.  Radius PowerView is very famous
and popular.  But I need NTSC video-out as well as signals for
standard monitor.
 
Although I heard that SuperMac developed such adapter, there is no
Ad. in magazines. Does someone know?
 
Please e-mail me or follow this post. Any information is appreciated.

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:15337 comp.sys.mac.hardware:24502 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:3400
From: tim@Apple.COM (Tim Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: PowePC Chip emulation, Why 68020??
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:41:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <zkessin.724522396@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:
	cconstantine@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

> Does anyone out there know why Apple chose to emulate a M68020 for
> its' PowerPC chip for software compatability instead of at lease a
> 68030 which can do virtula Memory and was the most stable chip (as far
> as software compatability went) of the bunch????

|Prob. because a 68020 can do virtual with a 68851 chip, which will
|prob. also be emulated. as will the coprossor. Plus the mac's memory
|will have to go threw the rs6000 memory manger.

If you think about it, emulation of a 68K MMU (the 851 or the MMU on
the 68030) would be too much of a performance hit -- each access would
have to go through software emulation of the protection and
translation hardware.  There is no reason to do this, as:

	1) The operating system can work without this functionality
	2) The PowerPC processors have their own MMUs

Other than the addition of the MMU and a data cache, the 68030 is
essentially equivalent to a 68020...

-- 
	-- Tim Olson
	Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
	(tim@apple.com)
From: hcs+@cs.cmu.edu (Henry C Schmitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Foreign File Access 4.0.2 vs. 7.0
Summary: Is 7.0 available
Keywords: CD Foreign File Access
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:51:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bz3nxt.BGs.1
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon


	I just downloaded the "latest" CD-ROM Setup (version 4.0.2)
from AppleLink.  However when I run Compatibility Checker 2.0, it say
Foreign File Access is incompatible with System 7.1 and I should get
FFA 7.0.
	Does FFA 7.0 exist, or is it just a glitch in CC?  If it does
exist, where can I find it?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Jon Wiederspan <jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Printing Japanese fonts
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A754965EA702CA3F@harajuku.tjp.washington.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:16:30 GMT
Organization: Technical Japanese Program
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:22:05 GMT

In article <622@titmath.math.titech.ac.jp> shiga, shiga@math.titech.ac.jp
writes:
>In article
<Penelope_Theodore-101292103821@cis_staff-kntx32.cis.brown.edu>, 
>Penelope_Theodore@brown.edu (Penelope Theodore) writes:
>> 
>> Can anyone offer advice on the best way to print out Japanese fonts
from a
>> Classic to a StyleWriter or HP DeskWriter? The Classic is running
Japanese
>> system software and EG Word, and a test with the DeskWriter yielded
spacing
>> problems. Would there be any advantage to using 7.1 with WorldScript
and a
>> Japanese script installed, and will Microsoft Word accept and print
>> Japanese characters in this situation?
>> 
>> I have spoken with the supplier of Adobe Japanese fonts, and they offer
>> ATM-J and two fonts that are System resident (apparently making for
slow
>> printing). Has anyone used this, I am wondering if this might be the
best
>> option. Thanks for any information/comments.
>
>I use TrueType Japanese Fonts which are supplied from Apple Japan. Adobe
Japan
>sells ATM-J and Japanese Postscript (screen) fonts for ATM-J.  By using
these fonts,
>you can get good output of any Japanese document from a StyleWrter,
DeskWriter and
>others. I recommend you TrueType-J because Adobe's J-fonts have very
strong 
>copy protections. But I do not know how to purchase them in U.S.A.,
sorry.
>As for MSWord, it does not match Kanji perfectly while it works as an
English word 
>processor under a Japanese system. So, it is better to use EG Word (now
ver. 5.0) 
>or other Japanese word processor to print Japanese characters.
>Hiroshige SHIGA, Department of Mathematics Tokyo Institute of Technology
>shiga@math.titech.ac.jp

You can get the TrueType fonts from one of several KanjiTalk authorized
dealers.  We have one in Seattle (The Computer Store) and you can find
the one closest to you by calling APDA at 1-800-282-2732 (USA).  Of
course noone in the US (or in Japan, from what I was told) is selling the
worldscript-compatible KanjiTalk7 version 7.1, but from tests with the
alpha release of it, it doesn't appear that the English version of
Microsoft Word (is there any other?) will handle kanji any better under
7.1 than it did before.  If you are unhappy with EGWord, I would
recommend Nisus; you can buy it with a Japanese-handling extension or you
can buy the Japanese version (SoloWriter).  We use SoloWriter and it
works great.  In fact, with the exception of tables (which SoloWriter
lacks) I prefer it to Microsoft Word in *any* language.
Regarding printing speed, in my experience both TrueType and ATM are
pretty slow printing Japanese, although we use a slow printer as well.

Jon Wiederspan.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jdurham@atg.amex-trs.com (Jeff Durham)
Subject: Re: Initial look: Norton Essentials for PowerBook (was GUM)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:00:40 GMT
Organization: American Express Advanced Technology
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

My two cents worth -

Having used both CPU and NEP I really like NEP better. For one thing you
can disable any modules you don't wish to use by simply removing them from
the 'Norton Essentials Folder'.

The 'Instant Access' for Appletalk is great - no more turning Appletalk on
and off to save battery power when I'm not plugged into the network.

As mentioned before the interface needs a little work on 'Sync it!' (icon
in menu bar that doesn't go away and also those stupid hierarchical menus
that go the wrong direction) but overall a nice first release of the
product.

Jeff Durham
American Express Advanced Technology Group, Phoenix
jdurham@atg.amex-trs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock)
Subject: Re: System 7 on older SE & SE/30 & Classic??
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:50:29 GMT

STMQ%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael Quigley) writes:
MQ> Just a quick question.. I am considering purchasing an older Mac, maybe
MQ> an SE/30 or a Classic.. Can System 7 be run on these machines??

fsullivn@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
FS> The SE30 is  a great machine--certainly preferable not only to a Classic,
FS> but even to a Classic II (lots of slots). Even Pluses are fine, if 
FS> occassionally prone to overheating,

I'm not sure if I'd say the SE/30 has "lots of slots", but agreed...they are
sweet little machines.

I know there are people happy with them, but I wouldn't suggest System 7 on
a 68000 machine unless you are into Buddist style patience building
exercises. I love System 7, but everytime I think about upgrading from my
antique SE: I just slap 7.0.1 on it for a week, when I restore 6.0.8, it
feels like I have a brand new machine.

7.0.1 runs nicely on our SE/30 though....

                                                  -ks

-- 

K Sturrock
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