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From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: UNC's Dean and jucos
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:34:44 GMT


I am posting this for my brother-in-law at SAS whose newreader would not post

From: Glenn Horton <sasdgh@unx.sas.com>

         There is a thread in r.s.b.c about Bob McAdoo being the only
 JC player Dean ever had. This is wrong. Jeb Barlow, of Louisburg
 College fame, played there for two years starting in 80 or 81.
(some stuff deleted)
 Jeb was a walk-on but did contribute quite a bit and got a scholarship 
his second year.
 
end of quote.

RC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: UCLA Scandal
Keywords: Robots on the Net?
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 01:52:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.175549.7845@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rjones@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones) writes:
>
>Wait a minute...I actually SAW Trent (or someone claiming to be him) at
>this year's Cognitive Science conference...he kept going on about hiding
>pot in his dishwasher and smoking dirty magazines or some such thing.

Damn.  Don't you just hate it when "real life*" intrudes on the net?

And did I ever tell everyone that structured connectionist networks solve
all the world's problems?

- Trent "Not a droid" Lange

* And the above kinds of examples are clearly what "real life" is all about.

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From: 185422285@ucis.vill.edu (Alec D. Plotkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Villanova Roster is looking tough.
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:48:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <9211070518.AA04180@cfdev1.shearson.com>, mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto) writes...
> 
>> Villanova Basketball looked very good at Midnight Madness. The looks
>> pumped and should do well this year.
> 
>I'm glad to hear this.
> 
>> The easy schedule should help us get 20 wins easily.
> 
>I figure a fellow Villanovan better respond to this before we start
>being accused of puffing ourselves up.
> 
>I'd certainly like to see this.  But the fact is that Villanova is picked
>to finish 7th in the Big East.  Even if the team goes 8-0 against non-
>conference teams, they would still have to win 12 more against teams
>in the conference.  They have the talent to do it, but only if Bain
>and Byrd play up to their potential -- not something they have done yet.
>Even so -- 12 wins against the Big East is posible, but will not be easy.
> 
>Mark
> 
> 

I will try to keep all lovers of Villanova Hoops well informed. 
===
Disclaimer = I speak for myself and my views are my own. Villanova University
or its computing departments take no responsibility for what I say. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re:  Worst Ref
Originator: jagreath@pepe.csc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:42:38 GMT


In article <10NOV199208302267@cc.utah.edu>, ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
|>After suffering through many years with the Lenny "IhateState' Wurtz (Just
|>how do you spell this guys name anyway - SATAN).  I have come out to the
|>land of the WAC and find several 'Lenny-wanna-be's'.  The most annoying is
|>Moose Stubbing.  He looks like Homer Simpson.  He is of course a favorite
|>target of student humor.

You couldn't be talking about Moose "I-love-BYU-and-UTEP" Stubing, could you?
I grew up on WAC basketball at UNM and have seen the Moose many times.  Homer
Simpson in a striped shirt is accurate, both in terms of looks and ability.
It's nice to see that others share my opinions of this guy....

-Eric


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Referendum on Jayhawk Postings
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:11:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.011445.44493@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.183420.13680@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, kbowers@esrc1.uucp 
>(Ken Bowers) writes:
>
>And I've deleted everything except the subject lines:
>
>>>Subject: Jayhawk Post #10 (Pollard commits)
>>>
>>>Subject: Jayhawk Post #11 (Rayford & Pearson)
>>>
>>>Subject: Jayhawk Post #9 (Spooks and Hoops)
>>> 
>
>I post these articles for those out there in net.land who are KU fans.  I
>started this because KU finally did something good this season in football,
>and I continued it into basketball because of all the positive response I got. 
>I cannot believe that you are reading these postings accidentally, because 
>they are clearly marked.  If you don't care for the subject matter, 
>DON'T READ THEM.
>
>But I would be interested on hearing a ruling from "the r.s.b.c. authorities."
>I can stop posting just the same way I started.
>
>Please, make your statement.  Ken asked you.  I ask you.

I personally have no objection to them--they are done in good taste
with clearly marked header lines.  I usually don't read them and they
are easy to skip over because of the obvious subject.  

The only thing that concerns me is the possiblity of this newsgroup 
becoming a news-article-quoting forum instead of a discussion forum. 
Can you imagine what it would be like if even only a few dozen people 
from various schools decided to put out the volume of information that 
you have been doing?  Perhaps you should use the newspaper to quote
the interesting information instead of having us dredge through entire 
newspaper articles to find what we want.

Ryan

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: True Blue Madness
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:39:08 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

One of the reasons that the Midnight Madness declined this year is 
that Pitino went before the usual crowd of boosters to encourage them
not to go. Leave it to the students. Pitino is the football team's best
friend: doesn't do puff pieces on the b-ball team during football
season, let's Curry take leadership positions on things normally
reserved in Kentucky hearts for b-ball. All the doubters who saw
in Pitino only a publicity hound -- like me -- have to eat their
words. Pitino, amazingly enough, is DOWNSIZING the UK program.
Little by little the UK program is returning to normal, healthy
proportions. So, all of you copy-Cat Midnight Madness schools
(it was invented sooprise sooprise by Joe B Hall) with the 
big attendence numbers, just remember: proportion in all things. 

A couple of tidbits:

in a recent open scrimmage, starters vs subs, the subs led the 
starters by 11 at half. Chief stars for the subs: Martinez -- who
wants his starting center spot back from Dent -- and Jared
Prickett who got a game high 15 boards. UK fans remember the
name Jared Prickett. He will be a star. Right now, he's behind
Mashburn at power forward, but he has grown an inch to 6' 9" and
is a real fine player (he averaged a triple double in high school).

Also, Rhodes apparently is doing fine at backup point guard. 6' 7"
and as agile as you could want. A real surprise to me: at that
Atlanta all star game he looked heavy legged.

And Dent is doing surprisingly well in school. They have him in
leg irons at the study hall/tutor center and mid-term he's heading
in for 3 As, 1 B, and 1 C.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: rajain@sml11.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: UMass: The ONLY Midnight Madness that matters.
Organization: Project Pilgrim, Umass
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:34:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.162155.25100@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day) writes:
|> 
|> > > dmason@ecs.umass.edu writes:
|> 
|> > > UMass turned the NCAA upside down last year, 
|> > > including a routing of Syracuse in the final 16.  
|> 
|> Uh, UMASS!!! played Kentucky in the final 16, and was
|> routed back to MASS!!!.  Given their #4 seeding, it
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Uhh, Pah-don meeeeee!!! "ROUTED" ?????? If only that goddamn 
	Lenny Wertz had a coronary or something 10 minutes before the
	game ended .... the story would have been different !!!


|> was no upset that they went as far as they did.  Take
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Yes, I agree with you here. The game with Syr. was no upset
	because UMASS!!! was seeded higher than Syr. plus that game 
	went into OT so it's not correct to call that game a "rout" either.

|> URI or Richmond over a #1 or #2 seeded Syracuse, now
|> there's an upset pick.
|> 
|> --
|> ************** "Frank, shut up and push the button" **************
|> Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
|> Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
|> *******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******


						Rajat.
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: USENET Top 25 Team Name Update!!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:28:52 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1dser2INNe8b@agate.berkeley.edu> sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.014323.11645@news.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>>	I suppose when you visited Duke you never bothered going to Central
>>Campus...or maybe you're just speaking from pig ignorance...
>>
>>gharris@jade.tufts.edu          
>>George W. Harris              	"He'd kill us if he had the chance."  
>
>Yawn yawn yawn.  Yes (*sigh*) I've been to Duke.  In fact I lived 3 blocks
>from it off of Moreene Road near the Duke Sheraton from Jan '91 -
>June '91, 1/2 block from the Duke Forest.  And yes - I used to play
>frisbee near the library on East Campus by all the facist fratenities there
>because it was, admittedly, a nice place to throw a frisbee around.  And
>yes, I've been to Central Campus.  And yes, I was on campus for the bench
>burnings following Duke's upset of UNLV at the '91 Final Four.  And yes,
>I have a girlfriend who was working at DUMC in the cardiac catheter lab
>and she got me into Cameron to watch the '91 Final on the big screen with
>all the army of white-bread-wonders in there.
>
>Fuck off, dickhead.  I know what I've seen -and I speak the truth,
>asshole.

	My, my, my.  In addition to being close-minded and ignorant, it also
knows how to flame.  Too bad it doesn't know to send flames through email.
Maybe it should read news.announce.newusers before posting again, as it
apparently didnt' take the first time through.

	Has anyone seen this thing here before?

>
>greg "tired of shithead mouthbreathers who think they always know more
>than you do" sherwin

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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:13:06 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

Curtis Hill sez:

>Paparo tries to be too much of the show, but he's good at keeping
>a running dialog with the players.  And he called technicals on Laettner.
>(FYI, if Laettner was in the ACC this year, he'd probably rack up 2 T's
>per game with his mouth.  It's a new point of emphasis this year.)

Famous Laettner technicals:
  Touching the ball after a made Duke basket, playing UNC last year.  A truly
lame T, in my opinion, but it was demanded by Dean Smith.  Duke players have
the annoying habit of doing this, possibly to slow down the other team or at
least annoy them.  Of course, Paparo undoubtedly told the players to cool it,
but it's a Laettner reflex and he got nailed.  I've never seen this T called
in any other game I've watched.
  Hanging on the rim @Wake Forest last year.  This was just dumb, as Laettner
was slowing his momentum.  billy Packer suspected it was called because 
Laettner was screaming with joy as he made the dunk (probably his usual
"F*ck, motherf*ck, yeah!")
   I'm not sure if Paparo was reffing either of these games.
  And of course, there was the silly situation where Timberlake clearly 
assaulted  Laettner's sneaker with his stomach.  Unbelievable.
  
>The T on Calipari during the East Regional was out of line, though.

Truly Jim Bain-like.  Overly intrusive.
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Next to Keith Richards, Sacramento looks great."--Pete Vecsey, on the Kings'
  chances this year.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,alt.licker.store
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:54:50 GMT

In article <74732@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)  
writes:
> In article <1992Nov13.153407.6935@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>  
oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
> >
> >Don't forget the little kiddies kicking each other, too!  That's
> >what I remember about junior soccer - getting kicked a lot.  Made
> >me feel like Timberlake.
> 
> Except how many of the little kiddies playing soccer got yellow or 
> red cards?

And my soccer team lost all its games.

> After all, Laettner got the equivalent of a yellow for his deed
> against "Aminu Acid" Timberlake.

Hee hee hee!  Shoulda got a suit contract for this!!!

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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:13:42 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

I've made fun of my recent stint as a coach (we finally won that all
important 2nd game) but actually having the responsibility of directing
a crowd of scofflaws did teach me one thing: refs hardly matter. When
I was the typical soccer parent trying to hector our vegetative
horde to action, the refs seemed like malicious, capricious puppet
masters. After a spell at trying to actually mold the kids into 
some kind of single-minded soccer machine, I had to confess that the
guys in funny shirts have about as much effect on the game as a post.
So, unless the ref has actually pulled out a .45 to shoot your team 
down in some kind of vengeful, gambling-debt driven frenzy, he has
had almost zero effect on the outcome. If you're watching the refs,
you're missing the game.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> My bad.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Midnight Madness at Maryland (5th best recrui
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:20:16 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <1992Nov5.145611.16792@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mikail Shams) writes:
>In article <fexley.20.720902406@dining.umd.edu>, fexley@dining.umd.edu (FX)
writes:
>>Well, it seems like Dick Vitale is all over the place.  On
>>10/31/92 he was at Maryland and he hosted Maryland's Midnight Madness.
>>
>>The cloud has been lifted here at Maryland and look for us in March.
>>
>>
>>..FX
>>
>>-- Screwed by the NCAA and now were BACK!
>
>
>	According to USA Today, Maryland has the 5th best recruiting
>freshman class in the nation and #1 in ACC.  Four of the nations top 
>twenty players are now at Maryland.  If not this year next year we 
>will be kicking some BUTT!!  As Dicky V says "Maryland is BACK!!"
>
>P E A C E
>
>Mikail


Amen brothers! It's been a while since we've been able to woof about b-ball (or
f-ball for that matter!). I feel it coming though; even with this year's great
class, Williams is already lining up a great class for next year.

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Boring year ahead?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:21:29 CST

In article <1992Nov11.161001.1@slcsrv.slac.stanford.edu> gregs@slcsrv.slac.stanford.edu writes:
>As far as I'm concerned, U Mass, the threat of Michigan taking the national
>championship, and the very existence of USC last year prevented the 1991-92
>season from being one of the most boring in memory.  No suspense, little
>surprises - I almost gave up on it if not for those three teams.
>
>Most especially, however, last year's USC squad and coach were the most
>entertaining team I have seen in a decade or so.  George Ravelling rightfully
>deserved NCAA coach of the year honors.  All the "Baby Jordan" hype aside,
>watching USC defeat UCLA for the first time, seeing them play at least
>a half-dozen games with heart-stopping, game ending victories (including
>the unbelievable 8-point, 1:30 left comeback at Cal), etc. all made following
>college basketball last year worthwhile.  It was only fitting that they lost in
>the tournament to Georgia Tech the way they had won games all year.
>
>I just hope 1992-93 will bring a team just as interesting as last year's
>Trojans.

Buweep.  Buweep.  Buweep.  Bias alert.  Bias alert.

Yeah, USC sure was interesting when they got upset, too.

I guess this is another verification of Trent's opinion that they don't
play basketball east of the Rockies.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Are the Dookies chicken?
Keywords: Dook,UA
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:57:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6727
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Nov3.182048.27176@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>You had better check your information, because you are wrong!  
>The first game was played at Meadowlands, the second at Cameron 
>and the third here at McHale.
>
>Next time, look before you leap!
>
>Ted

Actually, if we all want to be completely correct here, the first game
was played at McKale in December 1987, when Danny Ferry and Company were
beaten by about six or so in Arizona's holiday tournament. During the e 
game, Ferry was heard to remark that it was the biggest "home job" by
the officials that he'd ever been involved with.

Add that to the other disgraceful officiating job in late '91, and you
can see why Coach K is not particularly eager to return to Arizona.

- Rob Mac K
From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:03:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4312
Reply-To: edrury@3cpu.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Distribution: na
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <fVcpCrr@quack.sac.ca.us> benjie@quack.sac.ca.us (Android) writes:
>
>There was a point guard named Kevin Porter, who played for Portland
>during 70's.

 I think that you might be thinking of Kelvin Ransey who played in Portland
for two years - 1980-81 and 1981-82. Kevin Porter Played for Washington,
Detroit and New Jersey in the late 70's and led the league in assists in
1975, 1978, 1979 and 1981.



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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: Sonics: Paddio?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:16:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.082551.16829@u.washington.edu> dasaxe@milton.u.washington.edu (Daniel Perreault) writes:

>As for Christie. It looks bad, it is claimed by Christie's old agent that the

[...stuff deleted]

>IMHO Christie is getting offered much less than the 17th pick is worth as
>evidenced by the many more lucrative offers around him. However, he is getting
>offered exactly what he is worth to the Sonics. Currently the Sonics top
>ten guys are, Kemp, McKey, Benjamin, Cage, McMillan, Payton, Barros, Johnson,
>Pierce and Paddio. Christie would be behind Paddio because he doesn't know
>the system and has a suspect J. Paddio is at $200k and so that's what the
>Sonics are offering. So their is a fundamental problem in the NBA of who is

     Well, although it is true that Christie would begin the season behind
Paddio, and in that sense is worth only $200K or so, one would have to
think that by the end of the year, and especially in subsequent years,
Christie would become a much more important contributor than Paddio.
So if we look at the long run, I think Christie is worth much more
than Paddio.
     That isn't to say that in the negotiations Christie was right and
the Sonics were wrong.  After all those twists and turns described in
the torturous Sonics/Christie negotiations, I don't know what to think.
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Subject: Re: Injured M. Malone
From: <ACH2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:59:26 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov6.190301.3026@uts.cc.wayne.edu>, delledg@uts.cc.wayne.edu
(DeVaughn Elledge) says:
>
>Moses Malone will not start tonight as Center for Milwaukee. Frank Brickowski
>will start in his place. Malone is out for about 5 days with a herniated(sp?)
>disk. Brickowski himself is questionable with an ankle injury and may not
>start.
>
     USA Today (11/9/92) reports that Malone is having surgery on the
disk, and will be out indefinitely. Brickowski is starting in his
place, and has done pretty well, averaging 19 pts, 7 rbds, and 6.5
assists (!) in the first two games.

     Despite the loss of Moses, the Bucks are 2-0, having beat
pesky foes Boston and Detroit, which leaves them a game ahead of
Chicago in the Central. Enjoy it while you can, this will be a
trivia note at the end of the season when the Bulls head to the
playoffs.

Go Bucks!
Alan Hutson
ach2@psuvm.psu.edu