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From: nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Meaning of tabby cats
Date: 28 Dec 92 13:53:42 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Dec22.231607.22629@tellab5.tellabs.com>, rmd@tellabs.com (Bob Dyas) writes:
> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>>
>>   What are the characteristic, defining markings of what are
>>   called tabby cats?
>>
>>   Also, can anyone comment on coloration and markings of "tortise-shell 
>>   tabbies" and "mackerel tabbies"?
>>
> 
> I've read/heard that many/most/all tabbies have what appears to be a
> capital letter M on their forehead.  My cat does.  Is this true for all
> the tabbies out there?
> 
I haven't noticed this so much with my gray tabbies, but I have two "orange"
tabbies who definitely have an M on their foreheads.  My first "orange" tabby
(who is no longer with us - and we still miss him) also had an M - thus he was
named Mikey.  I will look closely at my "grays" tonight and see if they have
one.

Nancy
> 
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From: marie@ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Grumpy cats
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:41:06 GMT
Reply-To: marie@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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Anyone else got a pair of winter-bound, it's-too-cold-to-go-outside,
get-out-of-my-spot-before-I-chomp-off-your-ear, cabin-fevered furries?
Mine are positively sulking! I try and play with them, offer them 
treats & such, but they just give me That Look and walk away.  

Maybe they need the wok treatment ;-)

Marie

Tros: What dya mean, *your* spot??
Domino: You don't want to keep that nose very much, do you?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.drugs
From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: Cats and LSD
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 23:35:19 GMT

ledlow@triton.unm.edu (Michael Ledlow PHYS) writes:

>In article <1992Dec28.211752.26463@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec17.200748.16776@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>>>mary@zmax.com (Mary Papp) writes:
>>>: 
>>I remember visiting someone's house one time and the person living there
>>warned me to be careful of the cat.
>>
>>Seems the cat made off with some LSD (blotter) that someone had left lying
>>on the coffee table and has never been the same since.  It made the cat
>>somewhat unpredictable in behavior (not that cats are necessarily predictable)
>>and he would as soon slash your hand as let you pet him.
>>
>>In this case the cat definitely had taken the LSD of his own accord.
>>
>The cat didn't consciencely choose to take LSD, his careless owners provided
>him the opportunity to do so.  Cats being curious creatures will play 
>with about anything.  To say that the cat did this of his own accord is
>ridiculous.  If you leave poison out on the table, and the cat ingests it
>do you say the cat committed suicide??  

>--Michael

Ummm I think he was joking Michael.



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From: edotto@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Otto)
Subject: Re: Can cats sense a pregnancy in women?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:56:13 GMT

HF.CLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Cynthia Ng) writes:

>In article <7DEC199213504975@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>,
>prkenne@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec5.202652.24286@ncsu.edu>, odkahn@eos.ncsu.edu (OPHER DANIEL KAHN) writes...
>>>Has anyone experienced behaviour changes in cats when a woman in the house
>>>became pregnant? Can they tell, and if so how?
>>
>>When I was in the later stages of pregnancy my cat used to run ahead of me
>>every time I went up or down stair.  He would stay a few steps above or
>>below me and look back at me every few steps.  I've no idea why he did it,
>>at the time I assumed he thought he was taking care of his mommy!
>>
>>Carol
>>
>>My cat would sleep on my belly and stopped when I was no longer
>pregnant.
>>

My two KNOW something is up...

They both are a WHOLE LOT more affectionate to my wife, who is in her 9th    
month of our first pregnancy...
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From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: water obsession
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:00:13 GMT


Hi all,
I know that many cats love water and like to be around to lick up the
remains in the shower, or drink out of the toilet etc. but my cat
seems to be completely obsessed with water!
Everytime I turn on the tap, Sydney runs, leaps and bounds up onto the
counter and stares like he has never seen it and then meows pitiously
when I don't turn on the water often enough! I left the kitchen tap
dripping in a small steady stream the other day to see what would
happen and he got in the sink and stood under as tho he was taking a
shower! :) it was mighty cute and he would lick from the top too.
Now what I am wondering is, is this normal? I mean, he didn't used to
be like this (he is 5 mos old, male, not neutered yet, and I know he
is part tabby, but we think he is part siamese cause he talks all the
time, and has the body shape of a siamese). Anyway, he insists on
fresh water EVERYTIME he wants a drink (which is quite often) and
which becomes a pain. Would it be worth it to invest in one of those
water feeder things? And what do I do about the sink. I don't want him
to get into the habit of being up there all the time ( well, actually
I think it is too late for that, he is there all the time now
anyway...) What seems weird is that he didn't used to do this. It has
only been in the past month or so that he started being so obssessive
about the water.

What do you think?
(btw..he isn't dehydrated or constipated..as a matter of fact, he had
diarhea the other day)

Thanks for any info.
Susan
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mary@zmax.com (Mary Papp)
Subject: Re: Do your cats know their names?
Organization: Z/Max Computer Solutions, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:57:52 GMT


>I don't think my other darling knows his name.  Or if he does, he is not
>happy with it.  Ari (short for "Aristophanes") will respond to "Kitty,"
>"Tasha" (the OTHER CAT'S name), "Dorkmeister," and "Hey, Stupid."  If you call
>him "Ari" or "Aristophanes" you'll get no sign of recognition.

Maybe Ari doesn't approve of his name, he just might like being called 
"Dorkmeister."  Who can figure out a cat.  My cat will come when he is called
"Stinky" but you have to make it sound like there's food in your hands or you
really need him to come to you.

Mary and Slash

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From: dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: socks
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Golden Gate Computer Society BBS - Marin, CA - 415-927-1216
Reply-To: dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas) 

MP>Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
MP>Path: moon!pixar!uupsi!psinntp!zmax!mary
MP>From: mary@zmax.com (Mary Papp)
MP>Subject: Re: socks
MP>Message-ID: <1992Dec16.221040.14685@zmax.com>
MP>Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:10:40 GMT

MP>>Try putting a sock over your cat's head for a couple of minutes.  It doesn'
MP>>know where the hell it's at, and it just sits there.

MP>What happenend when you took it off?  Did it attack you?  An ex-boyfriend of
MP>mine did this to one of my cats and after he took it off she lunged at him.
MP>She was pissed and so was I.

<FLAME ON>The person who suggested this is a sadist.<FLAME OFF>

Dave Yuhas
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: cat in heat?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:49:11 GMT

Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr) writes:

(Describing cat in heat.)

>Anyhow, she's an indoor cat, so I don't have an immediate concerns.

>joe & chloe

You may be underestimating her intelligence, and interest in
getting out. Female cats in heat have been known to climb up 
chimneys.

Lenore Levine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cs431109@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs431109)
Subject: Re: Declawing Older Cats
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:20:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.054456.18412@news.acns.nwu.edu> stubaker@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stuart Baker) writes:
>
>How about any comments on older cats being declawed.  My cat is 9 and I may
>have to declaw her in order to move in with my girlfriend who has 2 declawed
>cats.  Anyone have any comments or suggestions.
>
>Stu Baker

One vet told me that the problem with declawing an older cat is the risk
from the anesthesia.  But it depends on your cats health and age. Check
with your vet.

Mary
From: laurel.schippers@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Laurel Schippers) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: GUNKY EYES
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:27:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: laurel.schippers@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Laurel Schippers) 

It's probably just an upper-respiratory infection, but do take
her to the vet.
                                                 
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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When will people learn???
Date: 25 Dec 1992 18:17:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bron@iastate.edu (bronwyn) says:
>How far have you guys gone to keep your pets?
>
I am moving from Salt Lake City to Dallas next month - I will
be staying with my dad until I find a job and an apartment (that
allows cats). My dad has an older dog who may or may not react
well to my two rambunctious kitties (8 and 3 months old). Before
I made ANY plans, I discussed the cats with my dad, and made
alternate arrangements with an uncle who lives in Dallas. The
uncle will keep my darlings in his big, heated barn if they are
not able to stay with me until I find an apartment.

Nicole, Spanky, and Darla (who is obsessed with the cat dancer
Santa brought her!)
P.S. Anyone who wants to email me suggestions for the three day car
trip, including hotel stays, and any information on finding
a place in Dallas, will get a big electronic hug :)
From: mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Christmas tree water, what fun!
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:30:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Well, our Christmas tree is up and still standing.  Ornaments are intact.
Garland is still hanging fine, no one has gotten electricuted trying to eat
the lights.  Everything was going fine until....Mommy watered the tree!!!
After which I hear this little splash, splash noise.  I look under the tree to
see Merlin, my little black terror, happily splashing all the water out of the
tree stand onto the nice, used to be dry, carpeting.  I yell, "Merlin! Stop
that!" and I'm greeted with a look that says, "But Mommy I'm saving the tree
from the evil water".  As I'm not about to crawl under the *huge* tree and
drag him out twenty times, I just put a towel around the tree stand and let
him at it.  A half hour later my kitty emerged, paws soaking wet and water
dripping of his little face.  He looked like he lost the battle until I
checked the tree.  Oh well.......

Michelle
and Pookie and Merlin
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: How much does a Rex help allergies
Keywords: Devon Rex allergies
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:38:35 GMT

Ditto this question.  Also, I loosely followed the discussions
that have gone on about bathing a cat to reduce (human) allergy
and about people slowly building tolerance but, at the time, I
had no real use for the info so it went in one ear (eye?) and
out the other, so to speak.

Now, my neighbor kids who take care of my babies when I'm gone
have decided they want a cat :-).  The mom is allergic (to lesser
or greater degrees).  She asked me to find out what I could about
cats that tend to cause lesser reactions or how she could deal with
her allergies and let the kids get a cat.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Judith (the crew couldn't care less about allergies--they don't have
any--so wouldn't sign this message)
From: valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:54:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: leapyear.ebay.sun.com

In article <--q2tjg@rpi.edu> petitc@vccsouth04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
>lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi) writes:
>
>>Hi folks,
>>  I recently caught a bit of a news piece that was saying something about
>>  pregnant women and cat litter.  Apparently, contact w/ cat litter (used, I
>>  assume :), is dangerous to the developing fetus. Anyone hear of anything
>>  about this?  Thanks.
>
>  I think it's because of a certain disease that cats can catch, not the used
>litter itself.  I forget what the disease was called, but it tended to really
>screw with unborns.  So, get your hubby to change the kitty litter, or, better
>yet, get the kitty to change its litter, itself. :&)
>
>


It's called toxoplasmosis.  They do a blood test to see if you
"have it".  I had my husband clean the catbox while I was
pregnant.  You get it from the feces.  Be careful gardening
too, because there could have been some cat poop outside.
Suggest you wear gloves while you garden.  Don't know too
much about the effects on the fetus - since I didn't 
already have it in my bloodstream and was staying away
from cleaning the catbox, I didn't do research on it.

Tell your OB/GYN you have cats and they can screen you for it.

Valerie (mom to Mimi)
From: tim.burton@cutting.hou.tx.us (Tim Burton) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Declawing
Date: 1 Jan 93 03:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: tim.burton@cutting.hou.tx.us (Tim Burton) 

N..Please don't flame me - I live with 7 cats, 2 dogs, an iguana, a ferret and two
  .children.  Sometimes they have to point me in the right direction just to go to
  .work.
 
 
   Declaw the kids and the iguana too! :)  No, but really...I agree 
100% with you.  My cat is an 100% indoor cat that loves leather. :(  He 
never goes outside, except under constant supervision.  His attitude is 
great, he just loves $3000 leather sofas!  Besides, he does not even 
know he does not have claws anymore.  (Except he can not climb the 
curtains or scratch leather anymore)  
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From: lita@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (Matthew Star)
Subject: CAT FOR FREE!!!!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:18:25 GMT

*****I am posting for friends, so please direct all inquiries to them***


We did a friend a favor and took in one of her cats when she moved.   
Unfortunately, we work long hours and are not able to give Shadow the  
attention he needs.  He is a beautiful black nuetered male who needs a  
home with lots of affection and the company of other cats.  If you would  
like a new addition to your multi-feline household please give Alex and  
Chris a call at (410)730-7150.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Subject: Re: snowshoe cats
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:48:36 GMT

The snowshoe cat is a recent, manmade breed of cat.  They look kind of like
Birmans, but without the long hair.  They are also known as Silver Lace cats.
They are not widely recognized by any animal associations yet, so there
aren't really any set standards for how they look.

They have the same kind of points as a siamese (mask, ears, legs, tail), but
at the end of each paw is a white mitten.  Usually found in seal point or
blue point.

I understand that they are medium size cats, have a loving character, and
need a good amount of attention.  Hope that helps!

*j*
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From: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: A moral dilemma
Date: 1 Jan 1993 19:43:21 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de

In article <1i0cedINNbjt@sumax.seattleu.edu> sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (    
Wilde Dame) writes:
..
> My point is that while your support of neutering/spaying is admirable,  
it
> is far better aimed at present owners of domestic cats than at strays. 
..

If I (and Webster's) understand the words correctly, it seems to me that  
it isn't necessary to neuter/spay strays. Sterilizing should suffice.

Carsten
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ahill@boi.hp.com (Andy Hill)
Subject: Re: Catproof couches?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:12:21 GMT
Reply-To: ahill@boi.hp.com
Organization: LaserJets by Bill & Dave
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com) wrote:
> I've heard that if you get fabrics which have a smooth finish rather
> than something rough and nubby, cats aren't excited about scratching it.
> <snip>
> Anybody else found that smooth fabrics are less appealing?
> 
On a contrary note, I had a chintz (smooth cotton fabric) couch that
was totally shredded by my cats, scratching posts notwithstanding.

Ultimately, my only solution for destructive cats was to move to an area
where the cats could run free for a few hours a night.  A bored furry is
a dangerous thing.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Meaning of tabby cats
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:06:49 GMT



What are the characteristic, defining markings of what are
called tabby cats?

Also, can anyone comment on coloration and markings of "tortise-shell 
tabbies" and "mackerel tabbies"?

Thank you.
meow.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject: Kitty has crud on head
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:14:02 GMT

My kitty has some crusty things (maybe scabs?) on his head.  I can feel 
them with my fingers, but I can't see anything (he's black and it's hard
to peer through his fur).  They are smallish, but there are several.
They are right up on top, between his ears.

Now, I figure it could be from fighting, he does have a nice long
scratch across his nose (I think he figures he's dashing looking
now that he has a scar), or it might be from fleas.  He does
have worms (the rice type that fall off the hindquarters) and I'm
going to get him dewormed soon.

He also has a persistant little bald spot between his sholders.  Sometimes
it fills in, but he's had it for several months this time.  What
is wrong with my little pal?

BTW:  His name is Taboo, and he's a giant black kitty.  He weighs
19 pounds and he isn't fat, just a wee bit chubby.  His fur is
quite sparse thought, especially in front of his ears.  It looks
kind of funny.
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (   Wilde Dame)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Do your cats know their names?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 21:58:57 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

Far be it from me to suggest that cats are anything less than completely
sentient, intelligent creatures [Sheryl looks to make sure the cats are on
the other side of the room and not watching what she is typing], but I
think tone of voice has everything to do with whether a cat recognizes his
or her name.  Hemingway and Clio know who I am talking to when I use their
names, but they don't respond when other people say them.  I know I've
developed vocal patterns for the way I say their names, and that combined
with my voice is a recognizable signal to them that I am speaking to them.
In that sense, they know their names.  But no, Hemingway doesn't
recognize the word when I and my lit class friends discuss Ernest
Hemingway, and Clio doesn't bat an eyelash when someone mentions
Cleopatra.  Of course, it could be that she knows she isn't named after
Cleopatra (she's named after the Greek muse of History) and therefore can
hear the "e" in it which clearly means we aren't talking about her. :)

-- 
       Sheryl Stover  %  If you ask me what I have come to do in the world,
  & Hemingway & Clio  %  I who am an artist, I will reply: "I am here to
sstover@seattleu.edu  %  live aloud."                    -Emile Zola
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Canned Cat Food--Differences
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:37:30 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec31.230742.702@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
> I was wondering what the net opinion was on the differences in nutritional
> value between kinds of canned cat food? As far as supermarket brands go ...

You can get nutritional analyses for the various flavors and brands of
canned foods (and dry foods) from the manufacturer.

My vets seem fairly unanimous in preferring dry food over canned for most
cats-- seems to help their teeth and breath, is a lot less trouble overall,
and you don't run into bacterial overgrowth problems in the summer that can
give your cat gastrointestinal problems.

The exceptions are cats that don't drink enough water, or can't chew
dry food adequately-- and there, my vets tend to recommend "soggies"
(crunchies with water).  There are also times when cats quit eating and
need to be hand-fed -- this is the time for smelly canned cat food or
favorite table delicacies.  And of course, there are cats that are on
special diets of canned foods like K/D or S/D, prescribed by vets.

When Mom's two cats were alive, she fed canned food exclusively-- mainly
Friskies and Purina.  Her bills were about the same as mine, but I was
feeding 5-10 cats on dry Iams, Purina Pro-plan and Science Diet.  And
my cats had nicer coats and better breath!

Oh yes, my current crew will pass up a can of Kal-Kan Mealtime for
Iams dry...  irked *ell out of my mom when she gave the cats a 
Christmas present!

Kay Klier    Biology Dept  UNI