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From: wendy@milton.u.washington.edu (Wendy Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Ralphin' Kitty
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:02:03 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr14.164528.11085@husc3.harvard.edu> joltes@husc4.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>A minor problem has come up with Kabuki, the Screaming Sliamese.  He's been
>randomly ralphing (translation:  throwing up) just after eating.  I'm not sure
>if it's a physical problem since he acts fine otherwise, and is his normal,
>playful self.  It almost seems like he's trying for attention or something, 
>since this usually happens when Kris and I are busy and running around the 
>house.  He eats (far too fast, gulping down his food), waits a few minutes, and
>tosses it all up again.
>
>He has all his shots and was recently seen by the vet.  Any advice or similar
>behaviour stories would be helpful.
>

  My cat Bert has been doing this for quite awhile. I assume its
because he ate it so fast. I once mentioned this to the vet and
she didn't think it was indicative of anything. So far the worst
place Bert has done this has been on top of the radiator......
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Cat Facial Expressions
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:33:16 GMT
Distribution: usa

In <1992Apr3.210548.13629@linus.mitre.org> cln@cooley.mitre.org (Carol L. Nowacki) writes:


>I think cats faces are very expressive, with the combination of eyes,
>ears, whiskers, and sometimes lips.  However, has anyone else ever
>noticed that photographs of cats rarely seem to capture the facial
>expressiveness of cats?

Yes, I've had this problem too.  I think it is because a component of
their expression is movment: quivering, twitching, what-have-you.  So
they look flat and lifeless on a picture.  I'll bet the same problem
will happen with holograms -- we'll have to wait for moving holograms
first!

--Cindy


--
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From: julieu@hpcvnb.CV.HP.COM (Julie_Unruh)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:42:31 PDT
Subject: Re: Declawed cat growing new claws!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, Oregon
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

I had the same thing happen to me, and this is what my vet told me:

The claws are growing back because they were not declawed correctly.  A
correct procedure involves cutting AT THE JOINT, not just across the
claw itself.  You need to have the claws looked at ASAP, preferably by
another vet, because it needs to be fixed right.  My cat was in a lot of
pain, and the vet said it would feel like walking with rocks in your
socks to the cat.  The second surgery took out lots of little slivers
and deformed claws.  The only reason I took her in was because an abcess
developed on her paw! So it was a surprise to me.

Anyway, I'm still mad at the vet that didn't do a good job the first
time.  When I called that vet, they offered to redo the surgery at no
cost, but I had already moved to another state.  I wouldn't have let
them have a second chance to botch it up anyway!  I suggest you have
your vet diagram exactly what the declaw procedure was or will be.  If
it is not cut at the joint, it is not correct.

It sounds like you have the same situation.  An X-Ray might verify the
problem?  Hope this helps.

Julie
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitty toys from nature
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:39:50 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver


In article <1992Apr08.153711.13682@demon.co.uk> Philip Coombes <coombes@tcom.stc.co.uk> writes:
>

>ps. Everyone ( esp. in food thread ) seems to know how heavy their cats are, 
>my question is : How can you tell ??, our two haven't been to the vet since
>the 'cruellest cut' when they were smaller, they are too big for the kitchen
>scales now, but don't register very clearly on the bathroom scales, so how do
>you weigh a cat???
>
>
>Phil C. & the Monsters of Minge


Stand on the bathroom scale holding your cat and then without your cat.
Subtract.  It is a pretty crude method but it will give you a rough
estimate of your cats weight.

-Cindy
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  The only sure sign that there is intelligent life out there is 
  that it hasn't tried to contact us.			-Calvin & Hobbes
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer)
Subject: Re: Kitty toys from nature
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 8 Apr 1992 22:22:04 EDT


>ps. Everyone ( esp. in food thread ) seems to know how heavy their cats are,
>my question is : How can you tell ??, our two haven't been to the vet since
>the 'cruellest cut' when they were smaller, they are too big for the kitchen
>scales now, but don't register very clearly on the bathroom scales, so how do
>you weigh a cat???

Well, my cats get an annual physical at the vet ... so that's how I know.
She uses a baby scale.  However, an alternative is to get a good bathroom
scale for yourself, weigh self alone, weigh self with cat, subtract
and VIOLA.
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: A CAT IS NOT AN "it"!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:16:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.16APR199217160841
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <edotto.703451554@uipsuxb>, edotto@uipsuxb.ps.uiuc.edu (Edward C. Otto III) writes...
>>>>Actually, it is the correct pronoun to use for a neutered/spayed animal,
>>>>as they then have NO sex. (Not if the vet did his job correctly. :-) )
> 
>>As my former landlady stated "I have had a hysterectomy, Am I an it?"
> 
>As I implied in the quoted statement, if the animal in question has sex,
>then he/she can NOT be an it.
> 

Just because a man has a vasectomy does not mean that he is sexless.
Just because a cat is neutered does not mean that *he* is sexless.

My brother used to scratch our male cat's belly.  The cat would use his 
hind legs to push my brother's hand down to where he *used* to have ...well,
you know.  I asked my brother why he kept doing it.  He said, he's fixed.  
I told him that simply meant he couldn't make little kittens, not that he 
didn't still have some nerve endings in the area!  :)

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
From: ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Breeding my Manx
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:12:13 GMT
Organization: UNC Charlotte

I have a 10 month-old tortoiseshell manx which I championed a month ago.  I
wanted to continue to show her, but she has been increasingly unhappy with the
show process, and cursed the judges soundly this past weekend.  I was advised
by several people at the show that the thing to do here is pull her out of
competition and breed her before she begins to eat the judges.  OK, I agree
with this assessment, but now comes the problem.  I cannot find anyone with
a good CFA male manx willing to breed to my girl.  There were two possibilities
but I cannont consider them because several people told me that one cattery
is filthy and badly taken care of, and the other person said that she'd had
two cats die of feline leuk "a long time ago".  Well, to me, that's too soon,
so that leaves me with zipity doo-da.  Of the people I've contacted, none
were willing to accept an outside cat - which I understand, given the above-
mentioned circumstances.  So, anybody have a boyfriend for my little girl
so she can get over this severe PMS and we can have some babies?  I don't
want a "pick-of-the-litter" deal, since I will want to continue to show
and don't want to lose the best one.  The owner of the male will have the
option to buy any kittens I don't decide to keep, however.  I live in NC,
and will not ship my girl anywhere, so the male must be within several
hours' drive.  Surrounding states are fine, but if I can't get there and back
in a day, I'd rather not consider it.
Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone can give me.
 
Jean
From: shaker@hplred.HP.COM (Kathy Shaker)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Quaking cats
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:52:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplred.144760009
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA

/ hplred:rec.pets.cats / ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) /  1:00 pm  Apr 14, 1992 /
And now for something a little different:

A few of my co-workers and I were discussing if animals could detect
earthquakes before they occurred. This is actually directed towards
people in the San Francisco Bay area but others may respond:
Before the Loma Prieta earthquake in October 1989, did anybody notice any 
unusual behavior in their kitties? Or other animals?

-Curious in DC-
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Emmy Lou goes bonkers before earthquakes and *demands* to be let out.  
She scratches frantically at the door and hollers until we get the
hint.  She was emphatic about going outside right before the big one 
hit, but I thought it was just because a strange man (the plumber) 
was in her house. Sometimes she will refuse to come in if there is 
one coming.  She hangs around the backyard, and just hunkers down u
nder the picnic table.  Such a smart kitty!  

Kathy Shaker    owned by Emmy Lou, Rosie and Tanuki
From: jyoung@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Joan Young)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Addendum to "What to feed your cats."
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:28:29 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University


     Just a note regarding my other news item.  My four cats consume a
total of 3 lbs of dry food per week.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ness@tc.fluke.COM (Jerry Ness)
Subject: Re: Bathing Cats (by accident)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:50:28 GMT

My Lucille was very curious about the noises from the drain in the tub.
One morning after a bath she decided to jump in and check it out.
Unfortunately there was still about 3 inches of water left in the tub.
I braced myself for a rapid and violent reaction (she hated getting wet).
I just knew the entire bathroom was going to get wet when she tried to
scramble out of the tub and found zero traction. I think she also realized
the situation she was in before she did anything really stupid.
She just sat down! It was one of the funniest things I ever saw her do.
Her tail was floating! She gave me one of those 'why are you looking
at me? I intended to do this.' looks. She just sat there until the water 
was gone and then she very gracefully hopped out and went up the stairs.
She was always the purrfect lady. 

'nuf ramblin'
Jerry

owned by:
Maudi Bryn Ben Toby Bobbin   Magellan Willie Turbo
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Jill M Dieterle <jdieter@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: comforting cats in car
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:49:29 GMT

Zachary HATES to be in his carrier in the car.  I only tried to travel with
him this way once... never again.  He cried constantly, and he scratched at
the sides trying to get out.  This went on for about a half hour, and I kept
thinking he would settle down.  I was wrong.  He started throwing himself
against the sides and the door, desperately trying to get out of the thing. 
I stopped the car, and he rode the rest of the way in my lap.  (He sleeps in
his carrier at home sometimes, and he generally likes it, but the door is
always open, and the apartment doens't sound like a motor and it isn't
MOVING!!)  

I didn't like the idea of him roaming around the car, so I bought him a
harness and a leash.  I put the loop at the end of the leash through a
seatbelt in the backseat.  I tightened the seatbelt so it was too short for
him to get down near my feet, but it is long enough so he can sit on my lap. 
This works very well.  He now either sits in my lap or in the back window.  I
think he likes the back window better, because he can see me and he can look
around.  

There are two important things to do if you decide to travel this way:  (1)
Make sure you get a HARNESS and not a collar.  If your cat tries to go
further than the leash allows, a harness will pull from behind the front
legs.  With a collar, he could choke himself.  (2) Do not put anything in the
back seat that he can wind the leash around.  I made this mistake once and
Zachary got so caught that he couldn't move, and I had to pull over.  (Why
can't cats figure out to go the other way to unwind themselves?  They are so
smart about some things, but they just can't figure this one out.)

One drawback of this method of travel:  accidents.  If you get in an
accident, your cat won't be secure.  Of course, he could hurt himself in a
carrier too, but the leash method seems more dangerous.  I decided that the
leash method wwas safer in the long run, because with Zachary screaming and
pawing inside the carrier, I was too distracted to pay enough attention to
the road.  Trying to talk to him and soothe him, etc., plus the effect on my
nerves made it dangerous to drive with him in the carrier.  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ac@apmaths.uwo.ca (alka chandna)
Subject: A CAT IS NOT AN "it"!!!!
Organization: Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:34:48 GMT

Hi,
	i'm new to this bulletin board.  i joined because i have two 
very lovely cats, Mr. Curby (i found him on the curbside; he'd been 
hit by a car & his jaw was broken -- he's all better now, and he gets 
plenty of excerise for his jaw as he is quite fond of eating) & Mr. 
Strecker (he was left in an apartment which a friend of a friend of 
mine moved into ... kinda "came with the place").  A third cat, Ms. 
Puppy (my former s.o. thought it would be fun to have a cat named 
puppy) was a vivacious dear kitty whom i obtained from the local 
humane society (she was killed by a motor vehicle a year and a half 
ago).  anyways, i joined this bulletin board to gather some ideas on 
how to spend quality time with my cat companions, etc., etc.
	i'm a bit bothered that so many people (who seem very nice, 
gentle & caring) use the word "it" to refer to their cats.  It's one 
thing to refer to a baby whose sex is not known as an "it" (actually, 
i don't like that either), but when an animal's sex is known, it's 
much more appropriate to use "she" or "he".  Cats are not articles; 
they are not pieces of furniture or glasses of water.  They are 
individuals with interests and feelings.  i don't mean to be 
pedantic - i simply think that our language reflects our values, and 
certainly if we care about our cats, we should not denigrate their 
existence by referring to them as if they were *things*.
 
regards,
alka
From: eam9e@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ann Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Indoor/Outdoor Kittys!
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:08:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department


In article <1992Apr10.083258.2509@otago.ac.nz>, tracey@otago.ac.nz writes:
> I am intrigued by this indoor/outdoor cat business, could someone please
> enlighten me?  Here in good old NZ all cats I know have free access inside
> and outside, some people even put their cats out last thing at night.  (Not
> us, our monsters prefer to sleep on (or even better inside) the waterbed.)
> Do people actually have cats that NEVER go outside?  Ours love the outdoors,
> and when we're out there they follow us around and 'help' with the gardening.
> Is it done because people live in apartments and have no back yard, or do
> some people feel their cats are better off indoors?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
>                      Tracey.

  My cats are indoor kitties because it's just too dangerous outside
for them.  Until recently, my 2 yr old male was a indoor/outdoor cat,
but when the vet started calling him the "trauma king", I decided
it was time to keep him inside. Haji has been beaten up by other
toms more time than I can count.  He's had a broken leg from a
cat bite and numerous holes in his hide that required stapling or
stiches.  One of his last encounters was with a dog.  He was
very, very, very lucky to have survived that one and I won't risk
his life anymore.

-Ann
From: joltes@husc4.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Ralphin' Kitty
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:21:15 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

> puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (Software Dude) writes:

[RE: "ralphin' kitty"]

>Thanx, Richard, for continuing to keep this phrase alive. I think that
>I'll start a new one... How about....
>
>My kitten is richarding (translation: taking a dump)...
>Ralph

Hmmmmm...I guess I've gotten used to certain names and their slang context,
as my nickname (cf below) has garnered more comments than I'd like to think
about!  Some people won't even use the name, and end up calling me "Rich,"
"Rick," or "Mr. Joltes" (who?).

Face it.  We're *both* stuck with 'em!

Oh, and the general consensus is that Kabuki's "ralphing" problem is caused by
his general "piggy kitty" tendencies, but other suggestions have included minor
kidney infection and thyroid trouble.  Kris is taking him to the vet on Monday,
so I'll let everyone know the outcome.

Many thanks for the responses.

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Dick Joltes						joltes@husc.harvard.edu
Hardware & Networking Manager, Computer Services 	joltes@husc.bitnet 
Harvard University Science Center

"Mind you, not as bad as the night Archie Pettigrew ate some
sheep's testicles for a bet...God, that bloody sheep kicked him..."
From: amo@cbnews.cb.att.com (arlene.m.osborne)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Persians
Summary: CFA address
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:11:46 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <18247@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick) writes:
> In rec.pets.cats, guy@accept.ec.bull.fr (Guy Collombat) writes:
> >My cat is a Persian Cream Silver Blotched Tabby Gold Eyes
> >His Name is Gipsy de la Guerinette
> >He is 9 months old.
> >
> >I would like to have informations about Persans in USA because I read on his
> >pedigree he has American blood. 4 generations ago one of his ancestors was a
> >great champion of USA. The name of this Champion is Majololi Mateo of Paco Tico
> 
> If he (Paco Tico) is certified you could write to the CFA (Cat Fanciers 
> Association) here is USA.  I don't have the address with me, but if you are 
> interested I can get it for you with no problem.  The CFA checks four 
> generations back for a fee of $20.00.  I don't know if that will help you or 
> not.  You have the name of the cat you want checked and they might be able 
> to come up with somethine.  I have the history on both my Himalayans.  It's 
> good information to have.
> 


The address for CFA is
Cat Fanciers' Association, Inc.
1309 Allaire Avenue
Ocean, New Jersey 07712

The address for the CFF is
Cat Fanciers' Federation, Inc.
9509 Montgomery Road
Cincinnati, Ohio 45242

Hope this helps.
Arlene  Osborne
From: ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Mousie toy
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:47:48 GMT
Organization: UNC Charlotte

I got my manx, Harpo, one of the track-ball toys for Christmas, and I thought
I'd have to get psychiatric help for her before it was all over.  She'd lie
by the toy, dangling one "arm" inside and bat the ball and bat the ball....
And she wouldn't leave it alone!  I had to put it up to get her to stop playing
with it for a while.  The funniest part of it was, when she first started
playing with the toy, she'd hit the ball and then run to the other side of the
toy and look around *outside* for the ball.  She didn't understand that the
ball was trapped inside, and thought that it MUST be coming out *somewhere*.
That's what made her so mental for the first few days.
 
Jean
From: ifau172@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: testing
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:28:12 GMT
Distribution: ut
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifau172@minnie.cc.utexas.edu

this is a testing.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cftdl@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Terry Lundgren)
Subject: Re: Water Pistols
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:13:17 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University
Keywords: new, hello

I've tried water pistols on Sugar and she continues until she is sopping
wet.  And even then.  I just gave up.

So, by accident, I tried a squeeze pig that makes a loud whistle noise.
It was handy when Sugar was bad.  And it worked!  Now I only have to "pig"
her once in a while for a reminder.

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From: charlesv@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Charles Van Duren)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat bringing home unwanted rodents
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:23:44 GMT

esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:

>This isn't the first time she has brought home a rodent but it is the
>first squirrel (?).  I have a couple of questions.  How do I get her
>to stop this revolting  habit?

Not revolting to her. It comes with the territory. It's what she does for
a living. If you would catch your own, she wouldn't have to do it for you!

> She's well fed and doesn't eat her victim.  

It's a present for you. She's looking after you.

>          Two, how does she do it. 

Watch her if you can. It's an education.

>                                 She's brought home moles, shrews and
>mice.  Often alive.  Is she is danger of getting a disease from them?

Only worms. My kitty eats wild all the time. She's as healthy as can be 
(and happy). Our previous cat was the same. She lived to be 22 years old.
Just make sure to worm her (according to vet's directions) in the fall
after she stops going outside.

>She sees her vet on a regular basis and there is no way I can keep her
>from using the pet door short of caging her and I don't want to do
>that.

Learn to live with it. It's annoying, but then cats are about the only
creatures who can go from being pets (domestic companion animals) to
self-supporting predators just by passing through a door! Pretty amazing.

>Any help would be appreicated.

Relax. She's doing good.

>Thank you.

You're welcome.

CvD
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