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From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Ranma 1/2 (Viz)
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:55:10 GMT

In article <-1369575796snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>
>In article <ceegJ0i00WB3IC=bg0@andrew.cmu.edu> bt11+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
> > There are frequent cases in which both translations mean much the same
> > thing but Viz's translation comes across in a way that is funny.
>
>Really? I read the first two issues and found them profoundly unfunny.
>I still get the heebie-jeebies thinking about them.

That was about my reaction. Personally, I thought the translation 
throughout all of them was a little... strange.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Suggestion
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:10:35 GMT
Organization: Network Solutions Group / GEC Alsthom, Sydney

In article <1992Sep12.175409.24212@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> 
axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au writes:

> I asked about a "manga rating" scheme for the r.a.m primer.  But nobody
> posted or mailed anything.  There is a system in rec.arts.movies which is
> kind of interesting.  Anyway, I think any kind of popularity poll,
> especially if it's conducted and posted regularly, would be great.

Hmm I must of missed that post.  A good manga rating scheme would be useful
but hard to define.  Poll wise, I'll volunteer [now that I've managed to
spell the word :-)] to run it.  Would a monthly posting of results with a
"Call for Votes" for the next month be best? Maybe it should be bi-monthly
as how often do you change you favourites? [Comments? Votes?]  I think the
votes should be your favourite five or maybe ten titles in no ranking order.

> (I'll make a longer posting about the primer later... basically, it
> needs another format change, and I'll need any input on that.)

When you're over on Wednesday [hint, hint] I'll give you some of my ideas.

>Chih-Ping Kuo writes:
>>Ah! My Goddess  (The latest, from the middle of book 5 to now, are very good) 
>
> That's interesting -- you've picked the exact same point as me for
> "AMG excellence". ^_^  I think I can pinpoint it exactly.. Chapter 34,
> especially the improved character design for Urd.  From that point
> on, AMG definitely has some of the most polished and stylish art around.

I can see the jump in quality from 1 to 6 but as I haven't the inbetween
volumes its a bit hard to comment on the above :-)

> >Deep and Beautiful Asia (a little weak on story, 2nd place for now)  
>
<---Iain comments deleted to cut space not as censorship :-) ---->

I don't like this one yet, but as I've seen very little of it I'll wait to
say "I hate it" :-)

<Iain again>
> I don't  really have a top 10 at the moment.  I'm still finding out
> new stuff... there is so much to discover.  Some of the new titles
> in Afternoon are really growing on me, though.  Even Koala no Arako!

Hey I liked Koala no Arako on first sight :-)  But then I'm known for my odd
tastes...

Michael
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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Help with Yawara please!?
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:32:03 GMT

In article <kFuNqB3w165w@flex.com>, dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha) writes:
#            I'm trying to read the Yawara manga (after hearing from Doi that
#    it is one of the best around), but am having a hard time deciphering all
#    the Kanji (w/o hiragana/furigana readings!!).
#            Is there anyone who's written synopses, or translations for the
#    Yawara mangas?

I have done summaries of the first 18 volumes.
(Volume 18 was posted yesterday.)
All/most of them should be somewhere on the Berkeley ftp site.

If you can't use ftp, you can try ftpmail or ask me to send them
to you.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: hachiman@milton.u.washington.edu (Matt Downer)
Subject: Re: ADVANCE COMICS items for November '92.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:13:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.192604.662@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) writes:

>Ianus Publications:
>CYBERSUIT ARKADYNE GN	$12.95	B&W	Softcover, covers issues 1-6.

Is this any good?  I'm thinking of getting it...

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From: rshiroma@drew.drew.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Super Sister Fate
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:01:27 GMT
Organization: Drew University

Here I report that I found Ran Hiryu's _Super Sister Fate_ comic at 
Kinokuniya of Yaohan Fort Lee.  There were two books on the shelf on 
Tuesday.  The story originally appeared in Penguin Club, which 
wholesome Kino would never deal in; they must have no idea about what 
they are selling.  So, H manga lovers had better hurry up to Fort Lee 
before it gets sold out.
-----
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:40:16 EDT
From: Scott Jung <SRJ102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Help!

      I'd like to get an Akira T-shirt for a friend.  The local comic store sai
d it could take an order from me and maybe in a few months could order somethin
g.  I'd like advice on how to get such a T-shirt quickly/easily/economically re
asonable.

             Thanks in advance,

                               -Scott
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: I recently
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:55:16 GMT

In article <18lquoINN36a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High) writes:
>Bubblegum Crisis - one-shot, written by Warren, artist is still up-
>  for-grabs, published by Dark Horse.

I thought Warren was supposed to be doing the artwork for this.  At
least, someone mentioned he did some character designs and stuff.  Has
this since changed?  Damn, I was rather looking forward to his version
of Mega-Tokyo...
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From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Akira Toriyama
Keywords: Toriyama Akira
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:23:29 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I don't know how it happened but following was mailed to me.  

-----
Jongwoo "Ain't it fun to be crazy?" Park     jwp@panix.com
=====================================================================

From: cmcl2!cad.gatech.edu!kita
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 10:14:14 EDT
To: artigas@evalun11.bitnet
Subject: Toriyama Akira

Hi, you wanted the information about Toriyama Akira.

Because I've been off Japan for about 8 months, my knowledge might be
a bit out-of-date. But I think Toriyama is still working on Dragon Ball.
His works are as follows (all are published by Shuueisha).

Title                                                      Vol  anime
Dr. Slump                                                   18  TV series
Dragon Ball                                                 31  TV+movie
Toriyama Akira Maru-saku Gekijou (Short Story Collection)
 /Toriyama Akira's **-piece Theatre                          2  OVA(?)
Toriyama Akira no Hetappi Manga Kenkyuu-jo
 /Toriyama Akira's Unskillful Manga Laboratory

Dr. Slump is slapstick for kids. I don't think it's any better than DB.
But it was fairly popular in Japan, and definitely brought him into
prominence. A TV anime series was made.

Dragon Ball is, as you know, made into 2 TV series (BD and DB Z) and
several movies.

T.A.'s Maru-saku Gekijou (2 vols) are short story collections.
I have not yet tried them. And I think one or more OVA was/were made
based on his short stories. But I'm not sure whether they were from
Maru-saku Gekijou or not.

T.A.'s Hetappi Manga Kenkyuu-jo may be an instruction to draw manga.
I have not yet tried it.

Though some netters said, a manga named "Dragon Quest" is NOT his work.
Dragon Quest was originally the title of video game made by Enix
to run on Nintendo game machines. They chose Toriyama as graphic
designer of the game. And the game made a great hit. So TV anime series
was made based on it, using Toriyama's art. Later, manga based on
the game was appeared on Shounen Jump. The title was "Dragon Quest,
Dai no Daibouken/Great Adventure of Dai". It was by two person, story by
Sanjou Riku and art by Inada Kouji. And it was also made into TV anime
series. Manga and anime are still running, I think. So, video games and
first TV anime series can be said as his work (though only art of them),
but the manga is NOT his work.
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From: Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich)
Subject: Bret Halford: new email-address
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:12:30 GMT

Hi everybody !

Just to let all of you know:

Bret halford has a new email-address:

manga@oldcolo.com

He told me that future orders should be addressed to his partner in the
US, who can be reached at:

Manga-chan,
1750 30th St. #314,
Boulder CO 80301 USA

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Bret's business, I am just a very 
pleased customer
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Thomas.Weihrich@WWWA.ORG < this is a perfectly valid email address :)

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From: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: My solution [Re: Ranma 1/2 (Viz)]
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:33:26 GMT
Organization: Network Solutions Group / GEC Alsthom, Sydney

In article <-1369515020snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> 
michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>
> In article <y1qn+b=.akuma@netcom.com> akuma@netcom.com writes:
>  >  
>  > Let's face it; unless Ranma breaks sales records for Viz, the comic
>  > will be dead by issue 7 (remeber Lum?  Fist of the Northstar?).  If
>
> Ummm, the point is moot anyway, since Viz is only going to do 7 issues
> no matter what.

Care to take bets on this people?  The last Advance Comics has a Viz ad that
talks about the release of Ranma 1/2 #7 the last issue of Part One.  Sounds
like they are doing more [probably like Crying Freeman].

Michael
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From: s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto)
Subject: Suggestion
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 06:30:34 GMT


	This is the kunedog sort of back from summer vacation...

I have a suggestion to make.... Why not make a list of the popular
mangas among all of us? Like we all get to pick 10 of our favorite
mangas... all of you mail me the list... and i update them......

Well, to start off with, here's my best 10... (in no particular
order... with comments..)

Dragon Ball - well, it sorta sucks now, but i still buy JUMP every
week just to read Dragon Ball...

Astro Kyuudan - This is the epitome of JUMP commercialism....there
ain't no plot... that's what's good.

Adolf ni Tsugu - I guess this is one of the best works by the one and
only Master of japanese comics....

BE FREE! - Weird but good...

Cat's Eye - City Hunter has better art, but i like this one better...

Area 88 - I sold all my volumes to a Shervyn von Hoerl who should be a
freshman at Dartmouth,,,, 

Sarudemo Kakeru Manga Kyohshitsu - in short : Saruman. 

Five Star Stories - Yeah, it's fun.

Kacho Shima Kosaku - Well if you could read behind the lines you might
get the image of the Japanese Salaryman...

Master Keaton - I've been trying to think of another one but it won't
come up on my mind.... but I like this anyways...
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From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Suggestion
Date: 13 Sep 1992 05:44:23 GMT
Organization: a.b., s3x3, m.j., c.n.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep12.175409.24212@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
>
>(Glad to see you posting again... BTW, Patrick still doesn't have
>AMG vol.6. :-)
>

Hot damn!!  I'm suppose to send Pat his AMG #6.  Anyone who is going to send
that to Pat better kill the idea, because I have a spare copy and I need 
someone to pay cash for it.  :-)

BTW Pat, the package is going out on Monday.

As for favorites, I tend to like an artist's work as a whole than particular
titles.  I'll give it a shot thou....  (at certain stage of manga collecting
one becomes numb of newer, stupendous titles).

Be Free!
Bastard!
Ah!  My Goddess
19
Elementalors
Angel Paradigm
Kiseiju
Living Game
Maison Ikkoku
3x3 Eyes

...in no particular order.  Chances are when I wake up tomorrow this list would
turn into something different.  Nobody here reads Putsun Make Love, me hope...


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From: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Manga wish list
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:05:06 GMT
Reply-To: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: chrismg@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu


	I don't have a top 10, but here's my top 3 for being
	translated into English:

	3:Chinmoku no Kantai/The Silent Service.  Anti-Japanese
	sentiment might cause problems for this one, plus the
	fact that its got an incredible length.  On the other
	hand, it has a very Tom Clancy feel to it, and he's 
	very popular right now.

	2:Video girl Ai.  This is a shonen manga, and most of
	the translated manga so far have been shonen.  It has
	some of the same cross-cultural appeal that Takahashi's
	manga does.  However, it is also very long, so they'd
	either have to Macek it some or excerpt severely.

	1:Vampire Princess Miyu.  Ahhh. We haven't had a good
	horror manga since Horobi ended.  Also, there are only
	6 stories as far as I know.  Given that the anime was
	released by AnimEigo, I`d give this a good chance of
	being done.  Downside:If it catches on, there's no
	more material(unless they go to the sequel, Vampire
	Princess Yui); none of the stories really has a 
	happy end; there's very little action, and only
	two returning characters.  We'll see.

	Speaking of wish lists, does anyone know if some-
	one's picked up the option for 3x3 Eyes?
From: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Mangajin
Date: 10 Sep 1992 20:55:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempus.corp.sun.com
Keywords: manga

Could someone be so kind as to forward the contact information for
the "Mangajin" magazine? I used to read it regularly in Tokyo but
I have recently moved to the San Francisco Bay area and my
back issues of the magazine are on a slow boat somewhere out
in the Pacific...

Thanks in advance,

Lem


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From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Akira Toriyama
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:26:22 GMT
Organization: a.b., s3x3, m.j., c.n.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep11.070542.8508@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>In article <92254.155136ARTIGAS@EVALUN11.BITNET> ARTIGAS@EVALUN11.BITNET writes:
>> DragonBall & DragonBall Z are an incredible succes in TV. In this
>>moment it's publishing a weekly comic-book of Dragon Ball.
>>     But , what others manga have this author?
>>           What is doing now?...
>>                                           Alvaro Pons
>
>He is still doing Dragon Ball.  He is also doing DragonQuest.  DragonQuest
>was turned into a 43 episode TV series, and is now a tv series "DragonQuest
>Dai no Daiboken", which is much more kiddified and VERY much less 
>interesting than the original.  The DragonQuest manga now follows the "Dai no
>Daiboken" (Adventures of Dai) storyline.
>

??!

There are look-alikes, but I think Dragon Quest you're talking about is by
Sanjo Riku (author) and Inada Koji (artist).  The story started in Shonen Jump
about, say, 4 years ago.  I wonder what has happened to it now (running on 
some Jump spinoff?).  Vol.1-6 was quite interesting, but like most weeklies,
sigh.....

Back to Toriyama-sensei.  His Dr. Slump is the all time classic, so please do 
try to dig it out if you have the chance.  It's mangas and animes are still out
there, somewhere.  He also has a couple collections of short stories, a full
blown art book, and a 'how to draw manga' instruction book.  The earlier 
Dragon Ball was in the same vein as Dr. Slump, but like most other weeklies, 
sigh.....


SJ, how many good mangas have you killed lately?

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From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Bret Halford
Date: 5 Sep 1992 02:27:25 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Intron Depot Order
Keywords: Manga_Chan, Bret_Halford, Intron_Depot, Shiro_Masamune
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

The order I placed with Bret Halford/Manga-Chan has just came in today.
I must confess that I'm impressed with his service (been some what of a
veteran in direct ordering); the order was placed around 8/20, and the
merchandise arrived on 9/4.

The book was well packaged in plastic bubble sheets and sent via air mail.
(Bret, you're charging way too little for shipping, though I'm certainly
not complaining... :) The package arrived in excellent condition, and the
merchandise itself is in perfect condition. (Bret, I think you've got yourself
a vary happy customer)

Although there was some minor disagreement over pricing (it was offered
at $22.70, and subsequently raised to $28; still ted less than what Nikaku
wants for the book, and a heck lot less than what SP/Darkhorse want for it!),
Brent was generous enough to honor the price quoted earlier. Veteran manga
reader/buyers may notice that his pricing for 'small' things (relatively
speaking; items under... Y1000) do not represent great saving comparing to
places like Kinokuniya book store, but the larger the dolla... yen value
the higher the saving.

In addition the shipping charge ($2 per item, or $10 per order, which ever is
less) for merchandise to be delivered to your door is by far better than any
place I've seen. People who mail order will no doubt know that typical
shipping charge are anywhere from $3 AND UP.

All in all, I consider the service of Bret Halford/Manga-Chan to be excellent,
comparing to Kinokuniya (which requires a mandatory 1 month waiting for
even order shipped by air) and other establishments I've delt with. I would
whole heartly recommend his service to anyone looking to either purchase
in large quantity or hard to find items.

-Dave C. (the (happy) man with Intron Depot book)

Disclaimer: I am not related to Bret Halford/Manga-Chan in anyways (I don't
            work for him, I don't know him as a person, etc) I am just a
	    satisified customer.

ps. If you're reading this Bret, how's my requests for the two models
    coming along?
From: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Suggestion
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:21:35 GMT
Organization: Network Solutions Group / GEC Alsthom, Sydney

In article <S92458KM.92Sep12153034@f07.sfc.keio.ac.jp> 
s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto) writes:
>
> 	This is the kunedog sort of back from summer vacation...

Huh? Summer hasn't started yet! [poor attempt at humour southern hemisphere
style :-)]

> I have a suggestion to make.... Why not make a list of the popular
> mangas among all of us? Like we all get to pick 10 of our favorite
> mangas... all of you mail me the list... and i update them......

Ah so this is where this discussion started.  Damn I wish my newsfeed
wouldn't jumble the order of messages so badly...

Ok may I'll withdraw my offer to run the poll although I'm willing to be a
substitute if you don't want to run it on a monthly basis as someone
suggested. [Don't ask me who, I don't think I've seen that message yet, I
live in a time loop here...]

I think the best way to run a "best of" list is send your votes of the ten
top with no order distinction [saves heartache over which one to put first
:-)]

> Well, to start off with, here's my best 10... (in no particular
> order... with comments..)

> Adolf ni Tsugu - I guess this is one of the best works by the one and
> only Master of japanese comics....

Which mag is this in?  Hmm the poll should include the mag the title is in
maybe huh?

> Sarudemo Kakeru Manga Kyohshitsu - in short : Saruman. 

As in Tolkien?

a curious
Michael
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