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From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: The whole nine yards (revisted)

>Uh oh, Graham's doing it now - quoting without sources, I mean.

This is how computerized archives and easy fast greps spell the
death of scholarship.

>I've doubts about the explanation above, though. Tushar, where did
>you get your version from?  (Or did you make it up?)

I made it up. But I was just joking!

tushar
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
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> I'm no Bible expert, but I have no recollection of a "staff of life" anywhere
> in the "Lord's Prayer."
>
> Darn!  My first question and I have nary a clue.
>
> --Anjani

I know everything but my on.  It doesn't say "staff of life", it says
"our daily bread", which is the staff of life.
--ggs (tricky question, yes....)
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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*** Resending note of 01/06/93 06:44

>making that up.  Dog hairs don't hurt computers.
>       * * *               /
>      *  o   * * * * * * /     Bernard, Systems Programmer
>    O                  *          Specializing in UNIX
>        * * * * * * * *        Assistant Supervisor of Ra
>       / \         / \
>


Well that's what I've been trying to tell my master, but he won't let me
get near his new toy!


        /\_____/\
       -/ ''''' \-
        {''o o''}    Fluffy Muffy
        {  \^/  }
       ////'''\\\\
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
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Nostalgist would fit.

Evelyn
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:16:45 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Greetings from Rho Disland

> Happy New Year, everyone.  Sorry to be irrelevant to current
> discussion, whatever it may be, but I just had a few minutes
> on-line and thought I'd say hello to the old crowd.  "Hello, Old
> Crowd."  :-)

I remember you!  You're the one with all the kids, right??:-)

> We're all fine.  Kevin will be 5 months old next Wednesday, and
> I return to work next month.  Time flies when you're listening
> to a colicky baby holler.  (Hair turns grey faster, too, I noticed
> upon a close inspection in the bathroom mirror yesterday... sheesh.
> Who sez kids keep you young???)

Kids keep you young?  KIDS KEEP YOU YOUNG????!!!!  This is probably
from the same source of wisdom as the expression "It's as easy as
taking candy from a baby."  Whoever disseminates such fabrications
never had a baby.  If I'd been vain enough to pluck out the offending
gray hairs, I'd have looked like Patrick Stewart long ago....  Though
I remember (dimly, dimly...) that at around 5 or 6 months, suddenly
babies begin to develop personalities and start to become fun.

> Hugs and smooches for all who want them.  Akio, Dan (can you
> read the lists again?), and Ruth:  thanks awfully for the holiday
> cards; they meant a lot to one in parental exile from the nets.

> - La mama

Parenthood has turned your wits.  You're Anne, not Ellen Stewart!:-)

Ken
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Date: 10 Jan 93 15:08:19 GMT
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Says rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis):
>
>       There's hope for it then.  The first episode of TNG sucked big
>time, too.  I haven't watched DS9 yet -- we have it on tape.
>
        We were supposed to have it on tape, but I screwed up.  Glad
to hear we didn't miss much.  We probably had much more fun playing
bridge in Magnolia.
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (74
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Speaking of things "off-color":
  What would cause an IBM PS/2 monitor to "drop its red gun" (lose
practically all red in the display)?  We've had 10 out of 45 develop
that problem.

Evelyn
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        "What film's climax takes place on the face of Mount Rushmore?"

Could be Star Trek V if you allow for ejacula praecox...

G
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:10:15 CST
From:         Andy Lester <alester@FARPOST.CHI.IL.US>
Subject:      Dan Lester's eye: An internet held hostage
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So I talked to Dad.  Dad's stuck in SLC, but will be leaving Tuesday
morning.  Gail and Dad will go about halfway to Boise Tuesday, stay
somewhere that I don't remember the name of, and then go the rest of the
way on Wednesday.

I'll prob'ly be either driving or taking the train out there on Friday
or Saturday, and will hang out there for a week.

So I think this will be the last eye update, since Dad/Gail should be
able to send out further updates once they get back...

Andy


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Andy Lester, Palatine, IL        and I own the entire Big Black catalogue."
(Yes, that Palatine)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU (BZ) says:

>>I used to get that thing!  I also used to get Dargonzine, but I'll be darned
>>if I can remember from where.  That was a shared-universe ongoing whoseit,
>>along the lines of the Myth books.
>
>The Dargonzine resides in the same place as Athene - ftp.eff.org.
>I thought about Rita when I ftped to that site.
>
What other good stuff is in there, or is that a huge order?:-)
I used to get Dargonzine and Athene by e-mail; I never thought of FTPing
them.:-)

-- 
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Year's Good Luck Foods
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>What about not cutting your nails on Sunday?

What about not letting the clippings from your nails, or
the trimmings of your hair, get into the hands of anyone who
might do you evil? My Mama told me that *her* Papa (my
grandpa Dave) would burn the bits of hair and nails.

>Have you heard the one about its being bad luck, on a first visit to a
>home, to leave by a different door from the one by which you entered?
>That one came from my mother-in-law, so is probably Irish.
>ndh

Irish? Not necessarily. I first heard it from a family of Greeks
who were spending a year in RI while the father studied how to
teach E.S.L.

love, judith, still way behind in reading...
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:03:32 EST
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Subject:      Re: Peanut Poems

> Perhaps someone here can help this fellow - Ruth ?
>
>   Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:47:20 TUR
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>   From:         CCRICHK@HUB.RDC.NOAA.GOV
>   Subject:      Peanut Poems
>   ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>   Help!!!
>   I have a speech assignment and badly need some poems on peanuts!
>   If anyone can help me, I would dearly appreciate it.
>   Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>   Rich Kissel
>   send to:

How can I resist a challenge, especially at 7:00 AM?....

    Hail to the peanut, nature's finest food!
    Jimmy Carter farmed you while posing in the nude.
    You make a wond'rous butter that spreads on bread so well,
    That any other sandwich spread makes me envision hell.

    So keep your mundane deviled ham, your apple butter, too,
    Just pass along the Skippy and I'll be friends with you!
    I'll rub its stately essence wherever you might say,
    And even add some jam to lick from night til break of day.

Will that do?

Ken
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cronings: (was: News from a newly non-computer...)
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> Why is the eligibility age for AARP membership (apprx. 50, I'm assuming)
> lower than real retirement ages in most professions (60-70,??)?

Perhaps because one can begin "retiring" in some ways well before reaching
retirement-from-work age?  One can retire from conformity.  One can retire
from self-consciousness.  One can retire from being a Young Turk out to
change the system (while perhaps contributing to change in a quieter way).
Those are just off-the-top-of-my-head thoughts.  I have no idea what AARP's
reasoning is.  (And I must admit that I've wondered about it also.)  I'm
pretty sure that not all of AARP's benefits are available to its younger
members, btw.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:38:08 CST
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>That's ok.  Some of us ancient folk have to be told things more than once.
>Hello, Ruth.
>doris

Look, Doris, don't fly to conclusions. Fact is that Don's new system is
screwing up again. He sent an entire posting, unedited, to the list. THAT'S
why Ruth posted. OK? Now that you know this I am sure you won't get so
worked up about it.

tushar
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In a previous article, TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain) says:

>>I'm getting *sick* and *tired* of being left out of the Words-L
>>Weekly Digest, *sick* and *tired* of it.  And I want it to stop,
>>*now*.
>>p.s.: As if I were not a contributing <member> of this group.
>
>        Post something interesting, and maybe you'll merit mention in the
>        W-LWD...
>
>        Sorry, I just wanted to be the <first> to say it.
>
Neal, that was rude, cruel and uncalled-for.  Wish I'd beaten you to it.


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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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> > Aren't these keys common IBM PCs and their clones?
>
> I've used many, many, many different keyboards on IBM PCs and their clones
> during the past five years and have never seen a key that said PF.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I just looked carefully at this keyboard (this is the only IBM I've ever
had anything to do with), and can't find a PF key.  Just all those
confusing F keys.  My husband, who *likes* IBMs, taped a cheat-sheet
listing functions for each key to the lid of the computer desk so I
wouldn't be so confused about what the F keys *do*.  The only problem is
that it is in about 5-pt. type, and I have to read it with my nose pressed
against it.
ndh (who still likes uncomplicated Macs with happy faces)
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In a previous article, rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) says:

>In article <9301042324.AA15936@Ra.MsState.Edu> Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU> writes:
>
>>No.  We got married in a bar.  The bartender was a preacher, and the cooks
>>came out of the kitchen to be witnesses.  Nobody else was there.
>
>	Wow.  And I thought my wedding was going to be bizarre.
>
Bungee jumping off of a bridge over the Charles?   Been done.  Boring.
I guess you'll have to think of something else.:-)  

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: On Eire and Edinburg(h) (was Re: First major problem in
              London)
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:This Board simplified names whenever possible.  Burgh became burg.
:Borough became boro.  Punctuation was eliminated (Saint Marys lost its

As I said, what pillocks.  Burgh is not and never has been pronounced
'burg'.  It's pronounced identically to 'borough'.  The only place names
which should be pronounced /burg/ are ones imported by German immigrants.

:        <What we have here is ignorance of your own history and an inability
:        to tell the difference between place names of Scottish origin
:        <and German origin.

:There arent any aitches in Gaelic except as diacritical marks.  In Gaelic,
:Edinburgh, Scotland, is Dunedin  na h-Alba.  Try to get yer letter delivered

Who said anything about Gaelic?  The language of Scotland is Scots, which
evolved in parallel with English from the Saxon of north Germany.

:and Albany GA.  It seems to me that Edinburgh is of German origin, founded as
: ththe capital of the kingdom of Northumbria as Edwins Burg (or fort).  Are the
:English Germans?  I guess not.  A Scotsman once told me that
:English is an adjective, never a noun.  The proper noun is bastard.

It seems to me that you're talking through your arse.  Edinburgh is as much
'of German origin' as the entire English language.

:For inventiveness, Edinburg TX or Edinboro PA just dont measure up.  The winner
:for phonetic originalty in imitating THE ATHENS OF THE NORTH is EMBRO
:ONT.  First runner up in the great Edinburghs of the world is the capital of

What utter shite.  You must know a lot of Gleswegians - they're the only
people who consistently pronounce Edinburgh as 'embra', but then they mangle
just about every word in the Scots language including the name of their
own city, so I guess I shouldn't feel too slighted.

:Tristan da Cuna, which may be the only Edinburgh which is capital of a
:real country.  Scotlands only claims to nationhood seem to be a
:pitiable national soccer team and the belief of English bs that they
:are a nation.

Oh, I get it.  This is just a traditional lurker ploy to pick a fight
and join words-l in a flurry of flamewars.  Well, forget it, I'm not
going to rise to the bait.  Have a hug instead. *HuG*.


G
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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Posted on 4 Jan 1993 at 09:26:00 by Evelyn Duncan

>  We're having a "False Spring" here, too.  It feels like March outside:
>cool, windy, and moist.  Temperatures are to be in the 50's today.

Here too.  Don't see why we shouldn't have one - we had "False Winters"
on and off all last summer.

Tony H.
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Subject:      Greetings,
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You'll never guess who just reappeared on <another list> after a too-long
absence.

Consider yourselves warned...

neal
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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>  I could have sworn I saw it listed in their latest print catalog...are
> they just sold out or was it not listed online at all?  If it just wasn't
> listed, I'd call them.

I searched for it by both title and author.  No luck.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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I had to plug my ears against the radio to sing along, but the Chattanooga
Choo-Choo leaves on Track 29!  (BTW, there's a special on the Discovery
Channel this Friday on trolleycars...)  Science and Nature it is, Carolyn!
"Powder river, let 'er buck!"

JMW
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 7 Jan 93 09:46:23 GMT

I think the critical parameter here is whether the vent primarily serves 
heat (heat rises, so you put the vent near or on the floor) or air 
conditioning.  In older homes, air cond wasn't an issue, so you'll find
the vents low: more recent homes may have them high, low, or (if expense
was no issue) separate.

--bayla (the line noise disappeared this once: pray it's not a fluke)
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Posted on 6 Jan 1993 at 11:55:07 by Gerard Van der Leun

>> >                  PLAY IT SAFE. USE A COMMA
>> >
>> > Subject: Dutch chemical plant explodes due to typing error
>> >
>>
>> Rita, Rita!  According to RISKS this is not at all what happened.
>
>
>This is *from* RISKS. What did happen?  Especially after he was charged
>with negligible conduct.
>     ^^^^^^^^^

This item appeared in RISKS.  Apparently it was from a newspaper report.
The next issue of RISKS had an item from someone claiming to have been
involved in the team that investigated the accident (which happened
almost a year ago, I understand).  This second poster said (if I
understand the unfortunately poor English) that an incorrect tank number
was selected by a chemist typing a 'prescription' incorrectly, and that
a worker who actually operated that tank was responsible for
checking that it contained the same chemical listed on the 'prescription'.

It's not clear if there was computer control of the tank valves at all.
It sounds much more as though a piece of paper was handed to someone
who didn't check it properly before acting on it.

Tony H.
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston
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> nominate Mama P.'s salmoncakes for best eatin's, but I didn't get any

Has she volunteered to be the bakemistress in Portland?
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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Posted on 8 Jan 1993 at 13:14:36 by Blue eyes cryin' in the rain

>     If you say so, Bill.  But I have never heard anyone mispronounce the
>     noun from which the adjective 'nuclear' is derived, nor another related
>     adjective.
>
>     Why don't the nucularists say 'nuculus' or 'nuculic acid'?

I've heard nuculus many times from people who say nucular.
I've never heard nuculic acid, but it won't surprise me.

Tony H.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:18:31 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      And then the naked ladies came
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GT bought tabloids "so you can get a balanced view of the news." These
things are just filled with naked models. I found myself mouthing the name
"Karsten" again and again...

Glasses fixed. Woman at counter looks at them (I had always thought they
were pretty high-tech Japanese stuff) and says, "where *did* you get
these, anyway? Just went all over me. Now if I could quit inadvertently
dropping back into the role of helpless femme...

Fizzy called a while ago and we're going to fight it out at Harrod's big
sale in a bit. This sale is a really really big thing, so much so that the
IRA already exploded 4 bombs ("incindiary devices" to the locals) to
celebrate. Shopping hell...where I was born and bred, where I was
purpose-built for.

GT has taken a cold, and as my mother says, if a man and a woman come down
with the same disease at the same time, the woman will end up caring for
the man because men always get *sicker* than women. This is one reason
I've been taking so many walks in the neighborhood today ;-)

Natalie, I think everyone feels that way when they arre on a vacation long
enough to become immersed in the culture. Now, what worries me is my
sister said that about Las Vegas last summer after going with her husband!

It really was annoying being blind, but the world is so pretty when it is
nothing but a swimming light and sound show.

Called Mother, and she complained bitterly that I have messed up my accent
again. Judith, you may recall she said the same thing last summer while I
was in Yankee-land.

That's all for now,
-abh
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