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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:53:48 PDT
Reply-To:     Don MacQueen <macq@MIGUEL.LLNL.GOV>
From:         Don MacQueen <macq@MIGUEL.LLNL.GOV>
Subject:      SQL delete statement
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              18 Aug 92 9:41:40 CDT <9208181441.AA18480@ti.com>

Bob,

I tried your version and I believe it deleted everything.
I have trouble believing this, as it is counter to the
SQL manual. I think maybe I had a goof, such as my
deletions set being incorrect. Anyway, Howard's method
was much to complex for me to understand in the time I
have available, so I have switched to an entirely different
rather brute force approach.

I make a pass through the data (from the original ascii file),
flagging the cases I want deleted. I then write an new ascii file
containing the flags, with cases in the exact same order as
the original file. I then reread the original data and also the new
file, in one data step.

The reason this is reasonably efficient is that it frees me from doing
a relational merge with a file with several hundred thousand obs on
a disk that is nearly full.

Thanks again. I've given hasty wrong/poor answers myself more than
once.
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Don MacQueen                   macq@miguel.llnl.gov
Lawrence Livermore Nat. Lab.
7000 East Ave., L-307          (510) 423-1062
Livermore, CA 94550
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:10:00 EST
Reply-To:     MR_CA_CBU@OSI.OHIO.GOV
From:         MR_CA_CBU@OSI.OHIO.GOV
Subject:      ? FORMCHAR - HP & DEC laser printers - example(s) request
Comments: To: SAS-L <SAS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

     CONTENT:  Request for examples - replacement of FORMCHAR
     REL/PLTF: 6.07.01 TS301 / VAX/VMS 5.5-2
     E-ADDR:   MR_CA_CBU@OHIO.GOV
     NAME:     Carleton Underwood
     AGENCY:   Ohio Dept Mental Retardation/Developmental Disabilities
     PH/ADDR:  (614) 439-1371 W/(614) 454-0881 H / Cambridge, Ohio 43725
     	       FAX: (614) 439-4382

   Tamara,

   Do you also have experience with using DEC's LN03 laser printers
   (non-postscript versions) and the FORMCHAR options?

   If the answer is yes, than can you post to SAS-L some examples for
   both the DEC and the HP laser printers?

   I'd have called you on phone but the gov I work for frowns on long
   distance voice calls - but internet is just dandy...go figure.

   Also, on a related issue - any experience/examples using the LN03's
   DECVEC features? This technique holds promise for us for a current
   application - any help in this area would be much appreciated.

   DECVEC refers to vector drawing of vert and horz lines without
   modifying the active printing position - therefore, you could use
   statements that would 'draw' the form and then fill it in.

   Syntax (from manuals) is ESC [ Pn1 ; Pn2 ; Pn3 ; Pn4 ; Pn5 ! |
   where
   Pn1 = Draw line, 0 = Horz, 1 = Vert
   Pn2 = Select X axis start position
   Pn3 = Select Y axis start position
   Pn4 = Line length in pixels
   Pn5 = Line width in pixels

   Thanks very much.

   Carl
   MR_CA_CBU@OHIO.GOV
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:36:00 EDT
Reply-To:     919 Robert Terry 684-2520 <DROBBY@DUKEMVS.BITNET>
From:         919 Robert Terry 684-2520 <DROBBY@DUKEMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      CALIS TEST EXAMPLES

Dear net-folks,
    In Appendix B of the SAS document, THE CALIS PROCEDURE:
 EXTENDED USER"S GUIDE,  it lists a number of test examples
 for which someone has already typed in all of the input code.
 As I am teaching a course in Structural Modeling in the Fall of
 1993, I thought my work load would be redcued if I could get a hold
 of these test example files.  The manual suggests that these are
 in the master directory of SAS institute.
     Could someone please kindly inform me as to how I might get my
 hands on these?
                        Thanks in Advance,

                               Robert Terry
                               Dept. of Psychology
                               Social and Health Sciences
                               Duke University
                               Durham, NC 27708
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:26:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Willy Waks <0005400191@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Willy Waks <0005400191@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      MEANS/SUMMARY and Weight Statement in 6.07

In 5.18, if you wanted to create a summary file that contains a weighted average
and a non weighted sum, you have to run PROC SUMMARY twice, and then merge the
results in a DATA step:
1)PROC SUMMARY DATA=MYDATA;
  CLASS MYCLASS;
  VAR USAGE;
  WEIGHT MYWEIGHT;
  OUTPUT OUT=AVG MEAN= ;
  RUN;
2) PROC SUMMARY DATA=MYDATA;
  CLASS MYCLASS;
  VAR COUNT;
  OUTPUT OUT=TOT SUM= ;
  RUN;
3) DATA FINAL;
   MERGE AVG TOT;
   BY _TYPE_ MYCLASS;
   RUN;
Is there a shortcut in 6.07 ? How would you do that in SQL ?


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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:25:40 CET
Reply-To:     Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
From:         Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Subsetting

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:31:19 EDT Howard Schreier said:
>
>CONTENT:  Correction/Response
>SUMMARY:  Use selective INPUT to subset variables.
>
>> > I need to read a portable sas data file and save it to a SAS DATA
>> > FILE. This is a huge file.  I actually need 1/4 of the variables
>> > only. How can I save this subset of data file in this step?
>
>> With the WHERE clause within a SAS datastep read SAS only those values
>> into that variables, which are named in this statement.
>>
>> i.e.    filename file_in 'see operation.dependent:filename\convention';
>>         data one;
>>           where v_nam_01 v_nam_03 v_nam_09-v_nam29 v_nam34-v_nam43 ;
>>           infile file_in;
>>           input v_nam_01-v_nam99 ;
>>         run;
>
>I'm afraid that this is wrong in at least three  ways.   (1)
>Situation:  the WHERE statement is usable when the DATA step
>is reading SAS data sets rather than  external  files.   (2)
>Purpose:  the WHERE statement is for subsetting observations
>rather than variables.  (3) Syntax:  the word  "WHERE"  must
>be followed by an expression rather than a variable list.
>
>Like the person who posted the earlier  response,  I  assume
>that  "portable  sas  data file" means an external (non-SAS)
>file.  If instead it means a SAS data set in transport form,
>the following is not appropriate.
>
>To subset variables when reading a huge external  file,  the
>best  and most straightforward technique is to construct the
>INPUT statement to selectively read the needed fields  only.
>If  the  file  is  not in fixed format (aligned in columns),
>this is difficult if not impossible.  Otherwise, it is  done
>by  using  either  "column" style or "formatted" style (with
>pointer controls); all of this is described in  the  section
>of the SAS Language manual dealing with the INPUT statement.
>

Yes, Howard Schreier is in right.

I forgot in the 1th example the 2nd datastep for reducing
the data to the desired variables and, I'm wrong again, it
needs on the WHERE clause/statement an arithmetic/logical
expession, and then are observations selected and not
variables.

This 1th example is to correct with an exchange from WHERE
to KEEP statement.

In cases of huge files and variable-length is it to reduce by
pre-processing or on INPUT statement as Howard Schreier refe-
red, or to read with dummy variables which are not to keep.
Because it can be the same variable-name, if the last becomes
the value.

i.e.             data one;
                    input a b c c d;
                    cards;
                 1  2  3  4  5
                 1  2 3    4 5
                 1 2    3 4    5
                 ;

Whereas character values within the data complicates sub-
setting of variables from a huge external file by this
method, also on missings values.

Arnold Schick  University of Marburg/Germany
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:18:56 -0500
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject:      RE: formchar option
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              GIBES@tin.monsanto.com

 CONTENT:   F/U on Question (formchar option under VAX/VMS)
 SUMMARY:   FORMCHAR option for solid-lines on DEC laser printers not
            directly usable?
 REL/PLTF:  5.18 - 6.07/ VMS
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 DATE:	    15 August 1992

 Regarding "formchar option", Barbara Okerson writes:

>I am running SAS version 6.07 with VAX/VMS 5.5
>
>Has anyone been successful using the formchar= option and string of hexidecimal
>characters to create smooth lines in Proc Tabulate (instead of the default
>dashed lines) for any printers other than the IBM printers listed in the Proc
>Tabulate manual?  If so, for which printers?  We have a variety of printers
>available, but not IBM..

 At a SUGI awhile back I once talked to a SI VMS person about providing
 some kind of a special FORMCHAR option for (at least) VMS to allow each
 table "character" to actually map to multiple ASCII characters.  This
 would allow one to obtain solid-line PROC TABULATE tables on DEC laser
 printers via SGR codes.  Currently we do this by processing the SAS
 output with a post-processor prior to printing.  This is a nuisance and
 a kludge but necessary since we use TABULATE output as final report
 tables and dashed lines look awful.  Once I even considered giving a
 talk on this approach for the explicit purpose of eliciting a better
 way to do it from the audience.  But I decided it didn't have enough
 meat for a talk and I don't like doing posters.

 Anyway, I second Barbara's question insofar as it relates to DEC laser
 printers.  I'm curious as to what other VMS sites are doing.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:20:55 CST
Reply-To:     Nancy <HILL@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
From:         Nancy <HILL@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Thanks for help with LISREL, PROC CALIS
Comments: To: SAS-L@UGA.BITNET, spss-l@uga.BITNET

 I want to thank everyone for the quick replies to my question about
LISREL and PROC CALIS.
Nancy
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 10:13:03 CDT
From: Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: Using SAS 6.07 to write data sets with diff. engines

In article <SAS-L%92081317334329@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>, "815 John McAnally 753-1804
Academic Computing Services Northern says:

>2) I had a strange thing happen converting a SAS data set to an
>SPSS data set on tape in MVS using SAS 6.07. I went through the usual
>steps, converted the SAS 6.07 data set to a SAS ver 5 data set
>using the V5SEQ engine then used SPSS to read in the SAS v5SEQ
>file. This procedure has been done many times in the past w/ SAS 6.06
>The problem was that SPSS v4.1 (which we have been using
>since April 1991) would no longer read in a SAS ver 5 file.
>(The error message was "Unable to open file.")

This has always been the case at my site.  The problem is SPSS v4.1.
I take another step further and use SAS V5.18 software to read the
SASfile created with the V5 engine, and output a V5 file written
with V5.  This IS readable by SPSS.  If you still have access to
SAS V5 software at your site, you're fine.  Otherwise, you'll have
to read the SASfile with the older version of SPSS.
My site uses SAS v6.07 and SPSS v4.1 on CMS.

Francine Cannarozzi
School of Public Health
University of Illinois at Chicago
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:37:49 CST
Reply-To:     GR3461@SIUCVMB.BITNET
From:         GR3461@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      Re. Space problem on SAS 6.07

> Dear SAS-Lers:
>
>         Here I include some note messages from two runs of ONE program.
> It worked fine on version 6.06 but failed in version 6.07 on the same
> platform, saying 'insufficient space' in the 2nd data step or
> 'insufficient memory' if sort the 1st dataset.
>
>         Could anyone please tell me what shall I do to solve the problem?
>

 Deborah Cannon suggested to put WORK parameter on Exec Card of JCL
 such as:

          exec sas,work=('xxxx,xxxx')

 I agree with him/her. When I run my job, my exec card looks like:

         / EXEC SAS,WORK='6000,1800',REGION=4000K

 If you work on MVS, you should be able to see how much space you need
 from your batch output. Space requested for your job - space
 distributed by default = space you need to add.

 Qin Wang
 Southern Illinois University
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Subject:      PC/SAS prints leading blank page
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***************************************************************************
Content          Question
Summary          PC/SAS prints leading blank page with FILE command
Rlse/Pltfm       SAS 6.04 for DOS with HP Laserjet II Printer
Name             Steve James
BITNET Address   SPJ1%UGA.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
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Dear SAS-L

    This is a follow-up to a question that I had concerning getting PC/SAS
output to print in landscape on an HP Laserjet.  That was accomplished by
sending the appropriate codes described in the HP manual with the PUT
statement massaged with the BYTE function (eg. x=byte(027);put @1 x; sends
the escape character to the printer).  Thanks for those who responded.

    My problem now is that when I send this output to the printer, a blank
page is always printed first, and I have to press the Form Feed to get the
last page of the output to print.  Someone here suggested that there is a
configuration option with the printer that determines whether the printer
"prints what it has" or waits until it gets a form feed before it disgorges
its data buffer.  Could this be the AUTO CONTINUE option that's mentioned but
not described in the HP manual?  If it is, then the question is can it be set
programmatically or must I manually set the option before printing my output,
then reset it after I'm finished.  And also will it solve the blank page
problem?  If that's not the solution what is?  I will greatly appreciate any
help y'all can give.

Steve James, Centers for Disease Control
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:15:28 EDT
Reply-To:     Howard Schreier <HIS@NIHCU.BITNET>
From:         Howard Schreier <HIS@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: SQL delete statement

CONTENT:  Response
SUMMARY:  Use SQL correlated subquery to implement "delete list"
REL/PLTF: 6.06+

From Don MacQueen (macq@miguel.llnl.gov):

> I have a very large dataset, from which I would like to
> delete a number of observations. This dataset is large
> enough that I am running short on disk space. The
> information about which cases to delete comes from another
> dataset, based on some key variables.
>
> Normally, I would do something like this:
>
> data new;
>   merge big dels (in=indel);
>   by area analyte;
>   if indel then delete;
>   run;
>
> Where there are many observations in big for each
> combination of area and analyte, but each combination of
> area and analyte only appears once in dels.
>
> I thought I'd look at proc sql. Seems like something such
> as
>
> proc sql;
>   delete from big
>     where big.area=dels.area and big.analyte=dels.analyte;
>
> ought to work, but It doesn't, and I don't know SQL well
> enough to fix it.

Try adapting the example on the bottom of p. 129 of the  SQL
FM:

  delete from big where exists
   (select * from dels where
    big.area=dels.area and big.analyte=dels.analyte);

Test table BIG (before):

    AREA   ANALYTE     OTHER
----------------------------
       1         1        22
       1         2        33
       1         2        44
       2         1        55
       2         2        66
       3         3        77

Test table DELS:

    AREA   ANALYTE
------------------
       1         2
       2         2

Test table BIG (after):

    AREA   ANALYTE     OTHER
----------------------------
       1         1        22
       2         1        55
       3         3        77

This employees a "correlated subquery"; in  other  words,  a
subquery  which has to be evaluated for each row of the main
table.  I'm not sure that this will be  efficient  for  your
situation.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:19:15 -0800
Reply-To:     Paul Hamilton <hamilton@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
From:         Paul Hamilton <hamilton@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      SAS/AF (r) Documents
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

>CONTENT:   SAS/AF beginner needs suggestions
>REL/PLTF:  mine is VAX/VMS running SAS v6.06
>E-ADDR:    DALMAS@NIEHS.BITNET
>NAME:      Dawn Dalmas
>DATE:      August 20, 1992
>
>I'd like to develop SAS/AF applications for data entry which are menu-driven
>and user-friendly, featuring data/field value restrictions, help selections,
>user-generation of reports, resulting in creation of SAS datasets.  Sounds
>like a job for SAS/AF, right?  But I'm having a little trouble getting started,
>and would appreciate suggestions/comments/advice aimed at my level (SAS
>programmer with no AF or SCL experience).  I have one Fine Manual at my
>fingertips: SAS/AF Usage & Reference, Vs. 6, 1st edition.  The Ch.10 (p.172)
>description of PROC BUILD states ability to "read from and write to SAS data
>sets" yet I'm not clear on just how to do this.  Are there other manuals/books
>you'd recommend with tutorial-type examples?  Is the SI course "SAS/AF Software
>Applications Using Screen Control Language" worth the money?

As far as I can see, there are 4 books documenting SAS/AF and SCL. They
are:
   o  SAS/AF(r) Software: Usage and Reference Version 6 First Edition.
   o  SAS Screen Control Language: Reference Version 6 First Edition.
   o  SAS Screen Control Language: Usage Version 6 First Edition.
   o  Professional SAS User Interfaces, by Rick Aster, SCL Programs by
Rhena Seidman.
      Windcrest/McGraw-Hill (c) 1992 ISBN 0-8306-3717-6.

The first 3 are published by SAS Institute, the last is a third party book.
I spend
many hours a week coding in SCL and SAS/AF: I would not want to do without
any
of these books. The first two document the software itself; the 3rd and 4th
try
to show you how to use it. IMHO they are all good at what they try to do.

No personal or financial interest in any of these resources--just a guy
trying
to get his programs to work well.

Hope this helps...

Kind Regards,
Paul D. Hamilton
Boeing Computer Services
hamilton@espresso.boeing.com
(206) 865-4470
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:10:36 CDT
Reply-To:     "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: SQL delete statement
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              92 4:36 pm

Don MacQueen writes:
>
> I have a very large dataset, from which I would
> like to delete a number of observations. This dataset
> is large enough that I am running short on disk space.
> The information about which cases to delete comes from
> another dataset, based on some key variables.
>
> Normally, I would do something like this:
>
> data new;
>   merge big dels (in=indel);
>   by area analyte;
>   if indel then delete;
>   run;
>
> Where there are many observations in big for each
> combination of area and analyte, but each combination
> of area and analyte only appears once in dels.
>
> I thought I'd look at proc sql. Seems like something such
> as
>
> proc sql;
>   delete from big
>     where big.area=dels.area and big.analyte=dels.analyte;
>
> ought to work, but It doesn't, and I don't know SQL well enough
> to fix it.
>
> Help please?
> Other non-sql suggestions?
>
> There are several hundreds of observations in dels, >200,000
> observations in big. I'd like to make the deletions without
> writing a big temporary file (very dangerous, I know, but
> I can always go back and re-create big from the original ascii
> file).
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Don MacQueen                   macq@miguel.llnl.gov
> Lawrence Livermore Nat. Lab.
> 7000 East Ave., L-307          (510) 423-1062
> Livermore, CA 94550
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
Don,

Try this to complete the join:

 proc sql;
   delete from big, dels
     where big.area=dels.area and big.analyte=dels.analyte;

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman, TX
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Reply-To:     "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: How do I position the windows in fixed locations?
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              92 12:17 pm

Gary G. Gu writes:
>
> This is for a friend of mine who needs help in using SAS under X.
> She would like to be able to control the positions of
> the OUTPUT, EDIT and other windows. How can this be done?
> I thought one could use the resources and put them in .Xdefault,
> but what are the resource names?
> I've tried things like:
> sas*output*geometry: 20x30
>
> But no luck. No SAS docs she has documented how to do this. Please
> help. Thank you very much.
>
> By the way, the workstation is DEC 3100, running Mwm. X11R4.
> Thank you in anticipation.
>
Gary,

I took this question to SI tech support not to long ago. They gave me
the same answer that Paul OldenKamp gives, "Use the WSAVE command after
positioning and sizing your windows.".

Regards,

Bob Snyder, Texas instruments, Sherman, TX
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