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From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: My dismay (Chris Patten)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:21:23 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
Distribution: world
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In article <3473@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:

|> I am in fact favour democratic Hongkong - I never say I am against
|> it.
|> 
|>  I conclude that your arrogant attitude has blinded you; you
|>  prejudices against the Chinese in China have made you
|>  a fool, throwing you follies around in this net >

I have no prejudices against Chinese in China. Chinese in HK and Chinese in 
China are from the same root. It is the CCP I despise. Your stupid 
understanding on the matters reflects your ignorance in these matters.
Naivety is what I can see from your worthless derivation and commenting.

|> I rest my case. I just hope that this will open out your
|> mind a little bit. Stop treating the Chinese from China
|> the way you are being 'ride on' by the British.

It is your narrow-mindedness that I criticise, I encourage you to rethink and
look at the world clearly, don't talk too much about ideology since that 
would take you too far to have a better world.

It is you that always accused people that who say anything for the British
as their slaves, this sort of mentality is foolish. Go and do some reading,
or see some people, perhaps that would open you feeble mind a bit.

Ignorance and stupidity are the two words which summarises most of what you
said.

Lin Can
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: My dismay II (Chris Patten)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:31:50 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
Distribution: world
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In article <3482@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
|> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >I doubt very much about the stories cited. As far as I am aware of, there is no
|> >racial discrimination policies in HK, although I believe the richer people can
|> >live in better place. I don't think rich and influential figures like Bao Yu Gang
|> >or Run Run Shaw would not be admitted to these clubs if they want to. 
|> 
|> >|> You people from Hongkong ( most of you anyway) have a sick
|> >|> attitude which no word in the dictionary can describe well.
|> 
|> >It doesn't really matter where you come from, stupidity only associate with
|> >individuals.
|> 
|> Well, Lin Can, I never imply that they are stupid - it is a kind of
|> mentality & not stupidity. You are right - Stupidity belongs to individuals
|> , but society dictates the mentality, the attitudes, the behaviour &
|> the arrogance of its people.
|> 
|> Anyway, no personal hard feeling.

Well, stupidity was not referred to "they". 

Surely no hard feeling.

Lin Can

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Chinese Kung-fu movies in US
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 00:05:16 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor


For those in the States, is Channel 57 a national network (since virtually all
American cities I know of have channel 57 and is not affilated to NBC, ABC,
PBS or CBS)?  In the past few months I've noticed that the Channel 57 in
both Ann Arbor and Philadelphia show like 3-5 Chinese Kung-fu movies in a week.
Most of them are from 1970-1985.  Since my English is quite poor I am
unable to connect any of the actors being mentioned in the TV guide...

The only one I could think of is Chen Kuan-Tai (in "Karate Exterminators").

Sorry for asking my stupid question here...


- Louis Pang


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: An answer to all responses
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:23:37 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor


BTW, thanks to those people who accused me of a junkie knows nothing (and does
nothing) but yell at people and generate flames in SCHK.

Take a few steps back and you'll see what I mean earlier, hee hee!  Never mind!
I don't want to be as ridiculous as your accuse...


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In article <3477@peking.gdwb.oz.au> mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
>wmleolau@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
>
>Yelling ? Of course not ! Hiding your head under the thick
>colonial skirts would be able to hear anyway ! What's for
>wasting my throat ?
>
>Apparently another arrogant Hongkie who collaborates with
>Lin Can to defend his 'master'. Colonial rule certainly
>has done irrepairable damage to one's brain.
>

Mr. Teng, when's the last time you feel yourself *sober*?  You know, when 
people got brainwashed or being influenced by voodoo (becoming a living Zombie,
that is,) or being insane, they *always* use some words frequently and
consisently without making any sense.  It's like being punished in the
kindergarden years: Your teacher would yell at you "Mr &^$&^$*&, go home and
write me <I WILL NOT HIT THAT GUY IN THE BACK AGAIN> 1000 times!!!!!"  Then
all of a sudden this phrase will pop up from your mind every once in a while,
even a long time after the punishment.

So what kind is yours?  Voodoo?  Insane?  Or brainwashed?  How come you keep
using the word "arrogant", "HongKie" and "Master" without an ounce of sense?

Are you the victim, or do you want us to be your victims?

Either way, try your best!


- Louis Pang
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Ignore this person (was Re: An answer to all responses)
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:31:23 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au

In <3477@peking.gdwb.oz.au> mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:

:Yelling ? Of course not ! Hiding your head under the thick
:colonial skirts would be able to hear anyway ! What's for
:wasting my throat ?

:Apparently another arrogant Hongkie who collaborates with
:Lin Can to defend his 'master'. Colonial rule certainly
:has done irrepairable damage to one's brain.

I can't help but laugh at this person's articles.  He/She accuses
everyone in this group of hiding under a colonial skirt because
we argue for democracy in HK.  Doesn't explain why and won't tell
us where he/she is from.  Strange isn't it ?  I think he/she is
just seeking attention so just ignore him/her.  Ignore him/her
and he/she will just move to another soc.culture.* group and
start accusing everyone there of being a slave to another master.
The best thing to do is just have a good laugh and hit 'n'.
Alternatively, use the kill option, does wonder to reduce the
noise in this group.


--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Re: My dismay II (Chris Patten)
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:46:28 GMT

In article <1gjar7INNpj8@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
>
>In article <3472@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
>|> cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung) writes:
>|> 
>|> >Talk about the priviledge of the British, I read this from the autobiography
>|> >of the chairman of YaoHan group (Bak Bak Poon or Eight Hundred Friend).  His

>|> >1. .. that the height of your residence in the Victoria Peak goes with your 
>|> >   hiearchy of power in HK ..  the part above mid-level has always been open
>|> >   only to the British .. Chinese are not 'allowed' to live in this part of HK
>|> >   .. He was 'grateful' that the chairman of HKSB insisted on selling his
>|> >   home to him, a Japanese ...

>|> >2. .. he was invited to join the VIP members of Jockey Club .. he was the
>|> >   only Japanese ... the others in the VIP club that he can see are all white ..

>I doubt very much about the stories cited. As far as I am aware of, there is no
>racial discrimination policies in HK, although I believe the richer people can
>live in better place. I don't think rich and influential figures like Bao Yu Gang
>or Run Run Shaw would not be admitted to these clubs if they want to. 

I don't have first hand experience to veryify his story, but I invite you 
to read his book.  BTW, the context of his story was not about racial 
discrimination.  He was talking about his gratefulness in being 'honored'
as such.  Also, I have not found any inaccuracy in his book on other subject
yet.

Of course the discrimination policy, if exist, would not have been written
down say, as law. However, the lack of such documented thing does not mean
the discrimination do not exist.   BTW, his second story should not be
interpreted to mean that no Chinese are admitted to the VIP Club of Jockey 
Club.  He simply stated that he had not seen any in his few time he was
there.   It is clear though, the VIP club's atmosphere is rather exclusive.

-cw-
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: An answer to all responses
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:19:08 GMT

jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:

>What a stupid article!

>Lin Can

Lin Can't come out with anything better than this ??
Come on, ask your 'masters', surely they can come
out with something more concrete !

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kwans@cwis.unomaha.edu (Siuon Kwan)
Subject: QC Old Boys
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:26:43 GMT

As a QCOB, I am interested to get in touch with other QCOBs
in the States or other parts of the world.  

My name is Andy (siu-on) Kwan. 
I graduated in 1987 from QC and went to 
University of Hawaii for my undergraduate.  Right now,
I am doing a master in psychology at the University of Nebraska.

Look forward to hear from you, QCOB.
You can send an E-mail to my account:

KWAN@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU  or

KWAN%CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU@UNLVAX1


Andy
From: nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: smoking
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:53:37 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Dec14.204833.25621@digibd.com>, vince@digibd.com (Vince Mar) writes:
> Simon.S..Chan@f427.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Simon S. Chan) writes:
> 
>> > Even though it is a bad habit, I don't see why those smokers have to
>> > quit.
>> > You said why carry it on?  Because we, smokers, no matter we are heavy
>> > smokers
>> > or not, don't feel like quiting it.  Alright!  We got to die sooner or
>> > later.
>> > If you don't smoke, you may not die from lung cancer.  Hmmm, maybe heart
>> > attrack or other disease.  Anyway, you have to die one way or the other.
> 
>>Yeah!! I'm totally agree on this!! 8-)
> 
> Do you ever think about second-hand smokers?  They may not want to die from
> the lung cancer.

You said second-hand smokers.  So, obviously, they are non-smokers.  Why 
do those non-smokers want to hang around with smokers and breathe in polluted
 air?  Maybe they are friends.  Well, whatever.
That doesn't make sense to me anyway .  First , if we, smokers, smoke in front
 of non-smokers in smoking area, they deserve to die from lung cancer because
 they don't go away from where smoking is allowed.
If we, smokers, smoke in non-smoking area, of course, we are the ones to be
 blamed. 
So, you choose to walk away or put out somebody's cigarette in non-smoking area.
I smoke in smoking area and I don't smoke in non-smoking area.  As simple as
that.  And, don't like, beat it.

> -- 
> Vincent Mar   vince@digibd.com                  
> DigiBoard, Digi International Inc.              
> 6400 Flying Cloud Drive       Tel: (612)943-9020
> Eden Prairie, MN 55344        Fax: (612)943-0803
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: NEWS: Survey Article of Chinese Economy
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:40:29 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
Distribution: world
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In article <3471@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:

|> Did the author make a mistake ? Shouldn't it be Honkong ? 
|> I tell you many of the arrogant attitudes of the Hongkies are 
|> just despicable as can be seen from the numerous posting in this
|> group. Many of them idolise anything of 'colonial' connotation, but
|> despise the Chinese from mainland. They think the mainland Chinese
|> are ignorant, narrow minded, 'antique' in thinking (as Lin Can't put
|> it); on the other hand, by hiding under the 'colonial skirts', they
|> think they know everything in this world, they think they are
|> also superior like their 'colonial masters'. One even claims that
|> he travelled more than me - just because he has been to Britian -
|> what a ludicrous & humbug statement ! 

Who would care where you come from, stupidity comes from stupid people.

|> I may dissappoint many of you who flamed me assuming that I am
|> from China. No. I am not . I step into this group because I
|> haven't seen any body as arrogant & shamless as most of the
|> Hongkies. ( I am not saying all people from Honkong are like that,
|> but there are enough of you to give Hongkong the bad name.)
|> 
|> Perhaps you would have treated me differently if I have made myself
|> known earlier eh ? Shame on you arrogant Hongkies !
|> 
|> Ps. Anyone (except British I think) who has been to Hongkong 
|> would agree that they are the most rude & arrogant people
|> in this world (- at least to those who look like Chinese to them.)

I suppose you really want to test the readers the tolerance limits of 
your narrow-mindedness and ignorant. 

You might be bright, but your articles are very stupid.

Lin Can
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: looking_for_boyfriend
Originator: leung@bittemple
Keywords: looking_for_boyfriend
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:39:32 GMT


|> In article <9235211.6209@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> leong@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Kee Hoe LEONG) o log 
>Hello:
|> > My name is Jenny Wong and i am an Australian Chinese (from Hong Kong).
|> > I am an Uni first year commerce student (1992). I study in Melbourne,vic.
|> > I am looking for a boyfriend age 23 or over. If anyone interested ,mail to
|> > wjenny@nyx.cs.du.edu ,tell me about your address(mail),e_mail address,
|> > age,height and occupation.
|> >
|> > with love,
|> > jenny Wong.
|> > _____________
|> 
|> 	Did someone forget to log off her account?

Originally, I thought it's a practical joke, 'coz jenny_wong's email
addr. is diff. from that of leong. But Kee_Hoe(male/female?) appears
to have access to jenny_wong's account. Looks like we have another
round of pre-X'mas fun. Just hope that nobody would get hurt.

Steven
-- 
328. Seek opportunity, not security. ...
        - Life's Little Instruction Book by H. J. Brown, Jr.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Picture posted
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:08:48 GMT


I just tried to post a picture in alt.binaries.picture.misc

It's called tinha-f.gif, and it's obvious it's a picture from 'wind'
'clound'.

Enjoy

Fran

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chuan@carson.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Subject: Re: Xmas
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:08:26 GMT

In article <PscRVB4w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> j3cheng@student.business.uwo.ca (Jonathan Cheng) writes:
>shafung@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Alan Fung) writes:
>> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (positron) writes:
>> >Hey!  Proud christian,
>> >(which would include more than 99% of all Chinese).
>> >A less offensive greeting would be ...
>> >     Happy Holidays.
>> >Go back to your church and pray to you
>> >white god.  Leave the rest of us alone.
>> 
>> What year is this year?
>> Don't tell me it's 1992,it's based on Christ's birthday, say year of 
>> whatever-animal. It's more oriental-to you.
>
>MERRY CHRISTMAS...May the Lord our God bless each and everyone of you 
>reading this message.  And may He bring you peace to your hearts wherever
>you are.

This is the most pleasant message I have heard for a long time on
the net.  After all these "happy Valentine's Day", "happy Thanksgiving
Day", "happy Memorial Day", and what have you, it is very natural to
say "happy Christmas".  If all of them are just called "happy holidays",
it would be extremely boring!

Of course, I want to add "Happy New Year!"

Chuan Lee
U of Washington, Seattle.

PS.  Some kind soul is going to come right back to me asking if I meant
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,talk.politics.china
From: dh5m@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Donghai  Huangfu)
Subject: outline of a fantacy novel (Re: DATA: largest world economies)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:17:13 GMT


Time 2050.

After 1.5 year of bloody conflict, in the first direct election of Taiwan
supervised under UN, the Liberal Democratic Prograssive Party (LDPP) beat  
down KMT, and the Reunion Party (Chinese running dog, CRD).

The media of whole world transmit the independent celebration, the new 
President Chen Heng-sin declares foundation of ROT in TaiZhong (Taibai 
becomes the ruins because of the battles). National day is set up to
be Dec. 25. Christianty is advocated to be national religion.

President Chen failed to get support in the Congress for the Bill of
Taking over Private Arms. The physical battles in Congress between
LDPP and KMT becomes more serious, and it hurts the reputation of the
new country.

CRD goes into undergroud, declaring armed struggle. This is a big headache
of President Chen.

Under the press of president of USA, Marian George, the General Secretary
of CCP, Jiang Xiaoming makes a promiss to give diplomatic recognition
to ROT, but raises a demand compensation of $300 billion for the China
property transfered from China mainland to Taiwan 100 years ago by KMT.
This unacceptable demand is supported by Vatican and Hague World Court.

The young country has many problems, but all problems will be settled
by time. A lovely country are building on the ruins. The future is bright.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vince@digibd.com (Vince Mar)
Subject: Re: smoking
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:48:33 GMT

Simon.S..Chan@f427.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Simon S. Chan) writes:

> > Even though it is a bad habit, I don't see why those smokers have to
> > quit.
> > You said why carry it on?  Because we, smokers, no matter we are heavy
> > smokers
> > or not, don't feel like quiting it.  Alright!  We got to die sooner or
> > later.
> > If you don't smoke, you may not die from lung cancer.  Hmmm, maybe heart
> > attrack or other disease.  Anyway, you have to die one way or the other.

>Yeah!! I'm totally agree on this!! 8-)

Do you ever think about second-hand smokers?  They may not want to die from
the lung cancer.
-- 
Vincent Mar   vince@digibd.com                  
DigiBoard, Digi International Inc.              
6400 Flying Cloud Drive       Tel: (612)943-9020
Eden Prairie, MN 55344        Fax: (612)943-0803
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: Peter.Lo@f223.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Peter Lo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Use of abbreviations in S
Date: 12 Dec 1992 11:23:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


PAO>From: dxper@dtek.chalmers.se (Per Anders Olausson)
PAO>Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden
PAO>  Well, here I am with a copy of the Employment classifieds studying
first
PAO>class Hong Kong style cryptology.

        The education system of Hong Kong is as follow:

- Kindergarden
- Primary education (Primary 1 - Primary 6)
- Secondary education (Form 1 - Form 5 for  HKCEE)
- Post Secondary education (Form 6- Form 7 for  A-level)
- Tertiary education (University, Polytechnic etc.)

PAO>  form 5

PAO>  form 7

PAO>  form X

        I have never heard of "form X" in Hong Kong before.

PAO>  ACCA
PAO>  LCC
        ACCA and LCC is some kind of professional examination and
qualification of Accounting.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Re: China still "stands tough" and Clinton may act as a mediator.
Keywords: political reform
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:25:31 GMT

In article <1g4f93INNc4g@usenet.pa.dec.com> mok@pa.dec.com (Charles Mok) writes:
>Subject: Clinton seeks 'constructive role' in Hong Kong future
>Date: 9 Dec 92 06:37:16 GMT
>
>	WASHINGTON (UPI) -- President-elect Bill Clinton says he hopes the
>United States ``can play a very constructive role'' in defusing tensions
>between China and Britain over the future of Hong Kong.
>	But Clinton emphasized Tuesday the simmering feud over Gov. Chris
>Patten's plans to increase democracy in Hong Kong before the colony is
>handed back to China in 1997 ultimately is ``a matter between the
>British and the Chinese.''
>	Patten has said he hopes to go to Washington and present Hong Kong's
>case to the Clinton administration early in 1993.
>	``I think it is clear from the activities in China in the last few
>years that the Chinese desperately want to maintain the economic engine
>of Hong Kong,'' Clinton told business leaders. ``Now I hope they
>understand that they really can't maintain it unless they also maintain
>a large range of personal freedom, liberty and human rights.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	``And I think the United States should do what it can ... to ensure
>that human rights and personal freedoms will be observed moving toward
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>1997 and beyond,'' the president-elect said.

Can't help but noting the conspicuous absence of the word 'democracy'.

-cw-
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wong@cs.uiuc.edu (Angeline)
Subject:  * Hong Kong Employment Recruiting Survey *
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:14:58 GMT

I found this is jobs.offered and was surprised that no one posted it here.
If this was already posted - sorry, I missed it!

@angi

p.s. Please remeber to forward any replies to the appropriate place/recipient,
ie. not me.

******************** Forwarded Message ************************


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.misc,misc.jobs.offered
From: henryng@tellabs.com (Henry Ng)
Subject: Bruce Lee
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:48:24 GMT

Anything going on with the king of Kung Fu Bruce Lee lately?
Next year will mark his 20th death anniversary. Any tribute pay to him anywhere?
Can anybody confirm that Hollywood is making a movie about his legend?
Can anybody confirm that his name/star is in the Walk-of-Fame in Hollywood near the
Mann theater?

Henry Ng (Ng short for Nice Guy)
henryng@tellabs.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jeffzhao@sound.demon.co.uk (Jeff Zhao Jeffreys)