HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (One of 100 millions ZHANGs)
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:46:21 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20
Organization: Technical University Darmstadt, Germany

In <1992Aug15.024942.17633@u.washington.edu> wenlin@carson.u.washington.edu~}) writes:

< >>>>~{=pRxM-Lz~}:~{4rR;VP9z3GJPC{!#~}
< >>> ~{N^N}#?!!5+T82;JG#,S&N*2;4s:OB_<-!#~} :-)
< >>> 
< >>~{NROkDcJG6T5D!#~}
< >
< >~{SPC;SP!0=pRxM-LzN}!15DK57(#?!!KF:uCUCfS&8C0QKySP5D~}
< 
< Yes! They are the so-called Five Metals: "Wu3 Jin1" (sorry for writing
< PinYin. Yagui, somehow the new version of zwDos fails me with the
< CapLock key) Hardware shops are called Wu3 Jin1 Dian4.
< 
< WL

~{L}9}:n1&AV5DO`Iy!0RuQtNePP!1Bp#?~}
~{K{=+!0Ne=p!1#=!0=pRxM-LzN}!1K53IJG!0VP9z9E4z5DNeOnT*KX!1!#~}

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J.Z.
d61o@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de
From: sychen@gus12.ecn.purdue.edu (Shi Y Chen)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: Fonts
Date: 15 Aug 92 13:43:57 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

try cs.purdue.edu pub/ygz/x-fonts/hku-ch16.bdf.Z
That one is a HKU-Big5 complicated font. This is the only available free
x11 font for complicated font so far as I know.
You need conversion program or hztty to read HZ or gb files.

sychen

                
               $$$o                    $$o                 $$oo
        ooo    $$$$o                  o$$$                  $$$$ooo$$$$o
    oo$$$$$  $$$$$""               "$$$$"$$"         ooooo$$$$"""  o$$""
    o$$$$$" oo $$$$$$$$          oo$$$o  oooooo      $$$""""
    $$$$$o  $$"$$$ o$$$            oo$$$$"""        $$$"   ooo$$$$$
    $$$ $$$$$$$$$"$$$"       oo$$$$$$$"$$ ooo        ""      o$$oooo
   $$$"$$$$ "$o$$$$$o             o$$$o$$""$$$               o$$$$""
   $$$      ""$$$$              o$$$$$"$$ o$$$         ooooo$$$$$
   $$$      o$$$$$ooooo        """ $$" $$""""          """""" $$$
   $$$   oo$$$"$$$ ""$$$$             $$$                    o$$$
    """      $$$$$                    $$$                   $$$$"
               """                    ""                  """""
From: sc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Cheng Shi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: cxterm*.Z & hztty*.Z
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:13:06 GMT

Hi, dear friends,

It's fantastic to know it is possible now to read something in Chinese
text on the net.  However, I haven't got the software to support it.
Because I am unable to get to any ftp site in States from such a lonely island
in the world, could anyone so kindly to email me those packages,
cxterm*.Z and hztty*.Z, I'm desperately waiting for.

Thank you for your help.

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Department of Electronics & Computer Science, University of Southampton,
England,  SO9 5NH					Tel: +44 703 593127
From: dumas@imag.fr (Olivier Dumas)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: Help with this newsgroup
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:29:09 GMT
Reply-To: dumas@bounty.imag.fr
Organization: BullImag

Thanks to all the kind souls who answered my request. I will now be able to practice and thus to progress a little.
bye.

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| Gieres - France               | The Empire Strikes Back           |
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Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: ytl1689@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: What to do?
Reply-To: ytl1689@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:30:37 GMT

Hi folks,
		It's seems to be great be able to read chinese text 'here' (hopefully). However, I do not know where to start from and I need some help here.
		I'm using a Mac to dial in (is that means I need different software?), using Pacerlink. Hope to hear from you guys, with advices and programs!!
												Thanks!!				
									Lim
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: ~{5K~}@dd-ap.rhic.bnl.gov (dp)
Subject: Re: 
Organization: RHIC: (Au+79)-> Little BIG BANG <-(Au+79)
	<Bszx6C.8vF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<1992Aug14.205402.1@wharton.upenn.edu>
	<Bt06B5.HBK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: 16 Aug 92 16:02:12

>>>>> In article <Bt06B5.HBK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
>>>>> "yagui" ==   <yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

  yagui> 
  yagui>  :-)


That's London.
From: di@es.ele.tue.nl (Di Chennian)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{: lB%CNVPR;6N9END~}
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:28:32 GMT
	<1992Aug16.223313.56794@news.th-darmstadt.de>
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
In-reply-to: D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de's message of 16 Aug 92 22:33:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.223313.56794@news.th-darmstadt.de> D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (One of 100 millions ZHANGs) writes:

>	   ~{:C<8DjN4?4!0:lB%!1#,5+;9<G5CFdVPR;6N9END!#3v4&2;Oj#,R;V1Ok~}
>   ~{2i6TR;OB#(!0:lB%!1K5JG3vWT!0DO;*>-!1#)!#OV=+4KNDB<TZOB1_#(<GRd~}
>   ~{#,;rPmSPNs#)#,2;V*VnN;8_J?SP:N<{=b#?~}
>
>	   ~{GIU_@M#,VGU_SG#,N^D\U_N^KyGs!#~}......~{J_J36x0?SN#,~}
>	   ~{7:Ht2;O5V.V[!#~}

~{>]NRKyV*~},

" ~{GIU_@M#,VGU_SG#,N^D\U_N^KyGs!#~}" ~{DK@OWS~}<~{5@5B>-~}>~{V.QT~}, ~{:s>dN42i2;Oj~}.
From: xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu (XiaoFei Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{8U?4AK!61`<)2?5D9JJB!7~}
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:47:58 GMT
Organization: Physics Dept, State U of New York at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14260

/* Message recovered from buggy editor 
tang@riemann.math.purdue.edu (Puqi Tang) used */:

 ~{Ub8v5gJS>g4?JtF6Wl# 
 ~{Y)4sI=!#SPP)6NBdJGMuK75D>x;n#,HgVw1`V.Uy!#~} 
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InterNet Address: UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU | Posting in UUENCODED GB and BIG5
From: D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (One of 100 millions ZHANGs)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:08:01 GMT
Organization: Technical University Darmstadt, Germany
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <Bt06B5.HBK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu writes:

< ~{NRL}9}R;8v2;JG:\NDQE5DCUSo#,R2JG2BR;5XC{#,CUCfN*#:~}
                                    ^^^^^^^^
                                  ~{6(ReL+9c~}

< ~{!0IO2^Ky!1!#2B3v@41p9VNR!#~} :-)
< 
<   ~{QG9p~}

~{SPR;8v!00M?b!1#,2;V*JG7q:OJJ#?~}

BTW, what does the sign :-) mean? Is there a list of all the common short
forms on Internet/USEnet?

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J.Z.
d61o@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: cnd-cm@djohn-sun.kent.edu
Subject:      Hua Xia Wen Zhai Announcement and Report on Reader Survey Resu~
Organization: GB->HZ, Bitnet -> A.C.T forwarder
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:28:50 GMT

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From: cheung@srarc2.sra.CO.JP (Wah-Kheang)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{ADU+V>Rl~} Liao2zhai1 Zhi4yi4
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:40:07 GMT
Followup-To: tan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan



>   ~{:|!!A*~}
>   ~{=9Iz#,UBGqJ/:gOHIzV.Je5\R2!#6AJiT0VP!#O|7V#,SP6~C@HK@4#,QUI+K+>x!#R;?I~}
>   ~{J.F_0K#,R;T<J.KDNe#,MP<8U9P&!#=9V*Fd:|#,U}I+>\V.!#3$U_T;#:!0>}wWHgj*#,~}
>   ~{:NN^UI7rFx#?!1=9T;#:!0FMIzF=2;8R6~I+!#!1E.P&T;#:!0SXTU#!WSIPJX8/>VR.#?~}
>   ~{OBT*9mIq#,72JB=TRT:ZN*0W#,?v425Z<dKvJB:u#!!1=9SV_MV.!#E.V*2;?I6/#,DKTF~}
>   ~{#:!0>}C{OBJ?#,f*SPR;A*#,GkN*Jt6T!#D\6T#,NRWTH%#:!.NlPgM,Le#,89VPV;G7R;~}
>   ~{5c!#!/!1=9D}K<2;>M!#E.P&T;#:!0C{J?9LHg4K:u#?NR4z6TV.?IRS#:!.<:RQA,WY#,~}
>   ~{WcOB:N2;K+Lt#?!/!1R;P&6xH%!#~}

~{SPK-SP0W;0NDBp#?~}

~{P;P;!#~}
				cheung@sra.co.jp
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: jiyang@prairie (Jiyang Xu)
Subject: Re: Chinese Input Methods: a comment, a suggestion, and a question
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.195639.9207@leland.Stanford.EDU> zhao@leland.Stanford.EDU (tiemin zhao) writes:
>I use cxterm and hztty, I could build my own .tit and .cit files, 
>and one line looks like: "computer    ~{<FKc;z~}"
>but I type in "computer", it comes out ~{"1<F"2Kc"3;z~}
>instead of ~{<FKc;z~}.  I have to choose one character.

This is likely because all input methods supported by cxterm can only
enter one character at a time and what you put in .cit file is a
line of choices. I have thought about another easy-to-remember input
method based on pinyin -- enter a word (normally multiple characters)
at a time. For example, if you type "dianzi jisuanji " (without tones,
spaces act as word terminators) you should get ~{<FKc;z~}. Such a method,
however, may require a large index base, so I am not sure how feasible
is it to support it within reasonable efforts.
From: zhimin@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Zhimin Wen)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:33:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Aug15.205923.29226@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> zyan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Zhongcheng Yan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.161927.6322@risky.ecs.umass.edu> zhu@risky.ecs.umass.edu (George Zhu) writes:
>>In article <Bt06B5.HBK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (~{QG9p~}) writes:
>>>~{NRL}9}R;8v2;JG:\NDQE5DCUSo#,R2JG2BR;5XC{#,CUCfN*#:~}
>>>~{!0IO2^Ky!1!#2B3v@41p9VNR!#~} :-)
>>
>>~{JG2;JG!0OCCE!1#?~}:-)
>>
> How about "La-Sa" , the capital city of Xi-Zang?

~{BW6X~}

Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang)
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:46:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.173450.8483@serval.net.wsu.edu> wlei@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Lei) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.143551.19128@cco.caltech.edu> siou@cco.caltech.edu (Shiyin Siou) writes:
>
>~{;0K5N^3#~}  ~{2BR;WV~}
>

~{;j~}

By the way, everyone please try to avoid adding spaces into the HZ code.
The unexpected spaces always terminates the decoding.

Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: lai@Apple.COM (Ed Lai)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: Help!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:38:15 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Aug12.212113.29905@linus.mitre.org> 129.83.161.10 (Hungkai Chao) writes:
>Could anyone tell me how to read these Chinese text news.  Thanks.
>
>I have a MacIIsi machine and my e-mail address is:
>        hungkai_chao.jstars@onqmgate.mitre.org
>
>MSWD

I have been reading the zW/HZ encoded Chinese text in this newsgroup using
the Mac. It is supposed to be a general solution for any terminal emulator,
but I have only try it on NCSA Telnet, so I have no idea if it really work
on other emulators. Also there are some problems that I still need to iron
out.

For those who want to try it out, you can ftp from ftp.apple.com. It is in
the directory /pub/lai. The program is called SubTitle. If may run under
the simplified Mac Chinese system. If you do not normally use the Chinese
system, you may also use it without a Chinese system using the cclib.16 font.

BTW, in the same directory are two HyperCard stack for a Chinese character
dictionary. It does require the Chinese system to run.


B
B

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zW@h9cOi

Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: bli@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: ~{V\Dj<@B,8UPV~}
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:41:18 GMT

~{=hE.2EWS@nGeUUJ+<@B,8UPV~}

	~{Iz51HKVP=\~}
	~{K@R`N*9mP[~}
	~{VA=qK<B,8U~}
	~{2;?O8=JW4S~}


Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: wlei@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Lei)
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:04:43 GMT

>>
>>~{4xG9IO2^Ky~}, ~{2BR;5XC{~}.
>>
>>   	~{Au6+~}
>
>How about "Bao(3)-Ding(4)", a city of Hebei province?
>
>

  ~{U>TZGEIOHvDr!#      4rR;3ISo~}

Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (~{QG9p~})
Subject: Re: Fan-ti-zi (Re: Hztty)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:11:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.222656.25958@leland.Stanford.EDU> lee@milo.stanford.edu (Fung Fung Lee) writes:
>
>How about the GB-ordered traditional font file, "cclibf.16", bundled
>with chirk-1.2 ? (ahkcus.org:src/unix/ChiRK-1.2.tar.Z)

Thanks -- I'll check with the author of ChiRK about it. I'll probably
move to 16-by-16 font starting at the next version of zwdos anyhow,
so that users can more easily find their own font files. It'll also
print better.

You mentioned including an entry about fonts in the FAQ. Can you write
an answer to that?  I have not played with most of the stuff.

  Ya-Gui
From: sc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Cheng Shi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: help with Chinese font library
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:43:59 GMT

Hi, folks,

I need your help again.

Now, I have successfully installed cxterm (X11R5).  But, an error
message shown up when I try to run it.

ld.so: Undefined symbol: _XtShellStrings

Can you guess what may go wrong?

Another bizzar which I just noticed is that I don't seem to have
any Chinese font libraries!!!  I don't think the sily computer could
show a Chinese character if you hasn't told her.

If you have a spare copy, could you email me one please?  I think the
fonts are called 'cclib16st' or something.


Thanks in advance



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Department of Electronics & Computer Science, University of Southampton,
England,  SO9 5NH					Tel: +44 703 593127
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: qwang@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Qiang Wang)
Subject: Re:      pushback -- predictions of the fate of China (GB)
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:28:46 GMT

In article <Bt95M0.5J9@acsu.buffalo.edu> wangj@acsu.buffalo.edu (jiping wang) writes:
>Path: wangj
>Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
>Distribution: world
>Followup-To: 
>From: wangj@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jipang Wang)
>Organization: UC Berkeley IC CAD Group
>Subject: How to use WuBi ?
>Keywords: 
>
>    Hi, can anybody help me to use WuBi method to input Chinese? I use cxterm
>
>and hear that there is a *Kou3 Jue2* about WuBiZiXin. 
>
>~{SPK-V*5@Ne1JWVPM5D?Z>wBp#?!!NRL}K5Ne1JWVPMSP8v?Z>w#,GkDDN;D\2;D\8fK_NR!#~}
>
>~{F4RtJdHk5DBi73TZSZ#,R;8vF4Rt6TS&:C<88v::WV#,?45CQ[;(ACBR!#Ne1JWVPMR;WVR;~}
>
>~{Bk#,?ID\:CR;P)!#P;P;AK#!~}

zWHg9{Dc4S@4C;SPQ'9}Ne1JWVPM5D;0#,DGDc5CWw:C;/R;8vTBJ1<dQ'5DW<18!#RrN*TZ13OB?Z
zW>w:s#,;9R*SC:\3$J1<d@4A7!!2pWV!#zW
From: sc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Cheng Shi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: cxterm*.Z & hztty*.Z
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:22:42 GMT

Great!!! I've got both of them.

Thanks for your response and help!!!

Cheers pal.

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Department of Electronics & Computer Science, University of Southampton,
England,  SO9 5NH					Tel: +44 703 593127
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: mmc1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mic (Zen) Chow)
Subject: Something backwards
Keywords: Chinese, English, Translation
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:22:09 GMT


Is there a program that will allow me to enter say English text and translate
it into Chinese text?

Or one that will change English text into the format that can be read as Chinese
by one of the many Chinese text readers as Chinese?


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Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: lee@milo.stanford.edu (Fung Fung Lee)
Subject: Re: Where to get chinese.16 or hku-ch16 font file from HK Univ?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:34:59 GMT

In article <telnet.1@oregon.uoregon.edu> telnet@oregon.uoregon.edu writes:
>Hi there:
>
>I need the chinese font file chinese.16 (or hku-ch16) provided by the Hong 
>Kong University to convert big-5 files into postscript files with "hz2ps".
>But I couldn't find it at ahkcus.org.  Could you tell me where to get it?
>
>I did find "hku-ch16.bdf" at another ftp site though. But I don't know how 
>to convert the x-windows font file "hku-ch16.bdf" with the utility program
>"bdf2hzfont".  Could someone show me the typical command line?
>
>Please reply directly to hong@oregon.uoregon.edu.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>Hong Ni


A number of people have sent me mail asking where to find "chinese.16"
(for use with "hz2ps 2.1").  You may find the file on ahkcus.org as
src/pc/hku/chinese.16

Perhaps the next version of FAQ should include information about
the location and description of available Chinese fonts.

Fung F. Lee

Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (One of 100 millions ZHANGs)
Subject: Re: Riddles
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:12:05 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20
Organization: Technical University Darmstadt, Germany


Have you seen this one:

~{=pRxM-Lz~}:~{4rR;VP9z3GJPC{!#~}


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J.Z.
d61o@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: zhu@risky.ecs.umass.edu (George Zhu)
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Organization: University of Massachusetts
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:19:27 GMT

In article <Bt06B5.HBK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (~{QG9p~}) writes:
>~{NRL}9}R;8v2;JG:\NDQE5DCUSo#,R2JG2BR;5XC{#,CUCfN*#:~}
>~{!0IO2^Ky!1!#2B3v@41p9VNR!#~} :-)

~{JG2;JG!0OCCE!1#?~}:-)

Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
From: yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ya-Gui Wei ~{QG9p~})
Subject: ~{:lL+Qt#-#-C+Ts6+KL8hPB=ZW`A*3*~}
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:21:53 GMT

~{!0:lL+Qt!1JGWn=|TZ9zDZFDN*AwPP5DR;:PB<Rt4x!#8C4xJU</AKHgOB8hGz#:~}

~{L+QtWn:l#,C+VwO/WnGW~}
~{LlIOL+Qt:lM.M.~}
~{:lL+QtUU1_=.~}
~{C+VwO/5D;06y<GTZNRCG5DPD?2@o~}
~{C+VwO/5D9b;T~}
~{0"XtHKCq3*PB8h~}
~{J.KM:l>|~}
~{DOD`Me~}
~{11>)5D=pI=IO~}
~{9p;(?*7EPR8#@4~}
~{>4W#C+VwO/MrJYN^=.~}
~{NRPDVP5D8hOW8x=b7E>|~}
~{G`o}C@>FOW8xC+VwO/~}
~{6AC+VwO/5DJi~}
~{C+VwO/VxWwOsL+Qt~}
~{PR8#2;;a4SLl=5~}
~{T[CG5DAlPdC+Ts6+~}
~{>.8TIOL+Qt:l~}
~{C+VwO/@45=T[E)W/~}
~{O4RB8h~}
~{3*5CPR8#BdBzFB~}
~{C+VwO/S@T6:MNRCGTZR;5@~}
~{7aJU8h~}
~{QS1_HKCqHH0.C+VwO/~}
~{NR0.Wf9z5D@6Ll~}
~{NRCG922z53HK:C1HVVWS~}
~{d/Qt:S~}
~{MrKjC+VwO/~}
~{C+VwO/JGT[Ig@oHK~}
~{8oC|HKS@T6JGDjGa~}



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From: zhao@leland.Stanford.EDU (tiemin zhao)
Subject: Chinese Input Methods: a comment, a suggestion, and a question
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 19:56:39 GMT


Dear Chinese Lovers,

Since a number of people have asked for comments about input methods
such as "five-stroke"~{Ne1JWVPM~}, I'd like to offer my 2 cents.


Background

I was once an instructor on Chinese input, I even wrote a manual about
different input methods including "five stroke"~{Ne1JWVPM~},
(which partly paid off my airfare to the U.S. :-) However, four years 
passed, and I forgot almost every method except Pinyin.


Comment

I think those methods based on strokes are good for professional
typists, but not good for us occational users.  As you can see from my 
experience, they are not easy to remember.  Also, you have to know 
exactly how the word look like, you might even have to write it down and 
analyse it before you key it in.

Pinyin is easy  to remember, but you have to speak standard manderine.
And, the multiple choise ~{VXBk~} is always a pain.


Suggestion

For this group, I suggest that we could use "English-Chinese" together
with other methods.  As all the netters have a good knowledge of English
vocabulary, there's no problem here.  The main advantages are:
1. The multiple choice will be significantly reduced.  
2. It's easier to type English words,  e.g. to type "computer" is a lot 
   easier than "ji>>>>>>>8 suan4 ji4".  
3. Moreover, it's good for those friends who are learning Chinese.

I don't know if there's dictionary existing already, if so, could some
one post it or set up an ftp site?  If not, it's too much work for one
person to build it, could we build our own library little by little and 
Share with others?  I think it will be a useful work, it may have 
Commercial values too.


Question

I use cxterm and hztty, I could build my own .tit and .cit files, 
and one line looks like: "computer    ~{<FKc;z~}"
but I type in "computer", it comes out ~{"1<F"2Kc"3;z~}
instead of ~{<FKc;z~}.  I have to choose one character.
Is this easy to solve?  If this can be done, what if I have
"computer    ~{<FKc;z5gDT~} in the .cit file, and this time, 
i do want a choice.  How can I seperate the 2 words?   
thanks a lot, experts.


Disclaimer

I don't have those instructions/manuals on Chinese input with me (that's
why I forgot those methods :-), so please don't ask me for them.

I am hoping to ~{EWW)~} instead of ~{R};p~}, no flames please.


Tiemin
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From: wlei@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Lei)
Subject: Re: ~{CUSo~}
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:21:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.220931.14826@news.Hawaii.Edu> qwang@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Qiang Wang) writes:
>>
>>  ~{U>TZGEIOHvDr!#      4rR;3ISo~}
>
>zWLl!!K.!!#?zW


zW~{Ai;n;z6/!##(4(N6#)~}


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From: gxc15@po.CWRU.Edu (Gongzhen Cheng)
Subject: ~{JTQiVPNDJdHk~}
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 17:55:17 GMT


~{UbJGR;4NJTQi!#~}


~{3L9&Ui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?-K94"184sQ';/Q'O5~}
-- 
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From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: re: lots and re: Alfvaen on the haywagon
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:21:52 GMT


   "Well, at my University job, we use either 2400 or 9600 bps terminals,
so watching text creep up my screen at home usually makes me very drowsy.
<grin> I have lost text off the screen because I forget to set my
'lines-per-one-screen' mode on Unix, and sometimes Procomm at Uni can
lose the top one-two lines of text. Ah, well. I just figured out it was
partially my problem in that I had VLT { Amiga VT100 emulator } set for
'smooth scrolling' instead of what I have it set now. Text moves a
little faster." DJ.

    "Uhm Boss. Now that I have crew, what should I use for uniforms ?"
Linda.

    "Thats your choice, not mine," DJ.

    "Oh, you know I have no color coordination that you like !" Linda.

    "Well, why not ask Spacey ?" DJ.

    "Okay. Spacey, what do you want your Science Officer uniform to be ?"
Linda.

* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Cmp Sci
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "I'ts still Rock 'N' Roll to me !" Billy Joel.
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