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From: zabdi@bucknell.edu (zakir abdi GR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Madona's new song and Allah..Allah....
Keywords: Hydrocarbons.
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:18:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: coral.1al672INNjs
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.cs.bucknell.edu


	Dear Pakistani Brothers and Sisters....

	Islam is in big danger(Late Gen. Zia patent), last night I saw Madona's
	new song "Erotica....Put your hand around my body.....". I was stunt to
	listen background sound of "Allah...Allah..." 
	Now the question arises that who will issue a new "Fatwa" against her. I
	was thinking that we have to boycott her cassette, you think it will make
	any impact on her. So what are your opinions.
	This is the time to show our unity, I am really smiling at this time, or
	we can call MTV to stop showing that song.

	Khuda Hafiz

	Zakir Abdi	[This is a very big issue, I'm missing the iron man of 
			Iran at that moment]
From: CXGR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXGR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: PIA plane crash
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:31:26 GMT
Organization: McGill University

Please refer Society Culture nepal for more information.
From: aaj5096@hertz.njit.edu (Ali A. Jafry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: V I T A L  S I G N  ---------In Concert
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:06:08 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep26.151850.2163@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> axavub@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.003258.15806@njitgw.njit.edu>, ixs0672@hertz.njit.edu (Irfan Ahmed) writes:
>> 
>> 						
>> 						
>> 			VITAL SIGN
>> 					
>> 					
>> 				
>> 			    AT		
>> 				
>> 					
>> 			
>> 		RAMADA RENAISSANCE HOTEL		
>> 			
>> 				
>> 		EAST BRUNSWICK, NEW JERSEY
>> 			
>> 			
>> 			  ON		
>> 			
>> 		
>> 		SUNDAY OCTOBER 18th 1992
>> 		
>> 			AT ------- 7pm sharp..
>> 		
>> 			
>> 			
>> 		
>> 	FOR TICKETS CALL			
>> 		
>> 			(908) 526-9081
>> 			(908) 788-7084
>> 			(609) 588-4185		
>> 		
>> 			
>> 			
>> 					
>> 				
>> 		TICKETS ARE OF            $20
>> 					  $30  AND V.I.P
>> 			I
>> 				
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 	PRESENTATION OF           		
>> 				KAHKASHA AND SAGAR ENTERTAINMENT.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 	H O P E   T O   S E E   Y O U    T H E R E ..........									
>> 			
>> 			
>> 					Irfan..............
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                who wants to see those "KHUSRAS"........

It definitely takes one to know one.


-- 
"I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, 
 And all I ask is a tall ship and a, star to steer her by."

                                              --- John Masefield
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Suzuki Privatization
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 17:54:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Far Eastern Economic Review, 1 Oct 1992
-----------------------------------
Suzuki Motor of Japan raised its stake in Pak Suzuki Motor
to 40% with the purchase of a 15% share from the state-run
Pakistan Autoobine for US$6.9 million. Suzuki will also 
manage the nine-year-old joint venture, making it the first
of Pakistan's privatised companies to have foreign managment.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Mr. 420 (a movie by Omar Sharif)..
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 09:35:33 GMT

ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:


>In article <1992Sep24.014725.29131@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, vinny@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Vinit Karandikar) writes:

>> (one man witness being equal to 2 or is it 3 women witnesses)

>Neither.  At least not in Islam.  You obviously missed all the
>articles on this thread.

I do not understand this thing. When I was kid I heard same thing
a day before Idd. If two women see the moon then it becomes a strong 
proof that moon is sighted. If only one man say that the moon is sighted
then people believe that moon is really sighted! 

Well, is it written in Hadith or in Quran?



This bring us back to same question. One man witness being equal to 2
women witnesses!!!!!!!

Bye
Adil

>-- Shakil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: Economic Aid
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.014513.16358@massey.ac.nz>, S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas) writes...
> 
> 
>Baraa faqeer chothay faqeer ko imdad ess leay dataa hay ta kay Allah aus
>kee bheek main ezafa kaeray.


	pukhayan which chore rajya.

Mirza Ilyas
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: convictions
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:23:10 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <1992Oct6.151255.17319@cbnews.cb.att.com> izaz@cbnews.cb.att.com (sheikh.izazul.haque) writes:
>
>Here's a new one for netters. What do people believe are Pakistanis true 
>convictions? i.e. things one would never compromise on?
>
>e.g. Family, Religion, Money, Human Rights, Democracy, Honesty, etc.

What makes you believe that all/most Pakistanis share convictions... which
Pakistanis are you talking about... which people are you referring to...
could you be more specific...

I'm not suggesting that there are no convictions most Pakistanis share. At
least national sovereignty is something that most Pakistanis would never
like to compromise.... some people would prefer to define the word 'nation'
differently though, possible giving it a religious flavor. This particular
conviction may not be so important given that it's just like saying, "What's
common in all birds is that they all do what qualifies them as birds."

Doesn't the question "what are Pakistanis' true convictions" assume too many
things?

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7882  
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:15324 soc.culture.indian:32515
From: moeen@remus.rutgers.edu (MOEEN KHAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: CONCERT
Keywords: VITAL SIGNS IN TOWN......
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:15:26 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: None
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Distribution: ny
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 18:19:59 GMT

>From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
>Subject: Re: Islam and Science 

I missed this 'Ancient  Proverb' for a long time.

>**************************************************************************
>*                                   *                                    *
>*  Yasmin Sohrawardy                *  "Only Nixon can go to China"      *
>*                                   *                                    *
>*  Internet:  ys3359@csc.albany.edu *            - Ancient Vulcan        *
>*                                   *              Proverb               *
>**************************************************************************

Arshad Hussain           [Islam and Science: Independent Issues]
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:15327 soc.culture.indian:32521
From: moeen@remus.rutgers.edu (MOEEN KHAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: concert
Keywords: vital signs in town.......
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:43:46 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


CONCERT...........................................CONCERT

	VITAL SIGNS WILL BE PERFORMING IN A CONCERT 
	BEING HELD IN NEW JERSEY, IN EAST BRUNSWICK
		(CLOSE TO RUTGERS UNIVERSITY)

	DATE :		OCT 18th, 1992
	PLACE:		RAMADA.

	FOR TICKETS AND OTHER INFO CONTACT:-

	moeen@remus.rutgers.edu
	khan@pisces.bitnet
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Urdu Urdu
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:24:00 GMT
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep29.203159.22888@ecst.csuchico.edu>, jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes...
> 
>Salam alaikum,
> 
>Now that everyone has got me excited about the formation of 
>an Urdu newsgroup, I would like to ask a question that has been
>on my mind since I started reading scp.
> 
>Is there a standard convention for ascii transliteration of Urdu?
>I am very clumsy at communicating in Urdu (or Punjabi) in anything
>but the Arabic alphabet. I am aware of the conventions for Arabic
>transliteration that appear in print, but they invaribly rely upon
>diacritical marks that are not part of the ASCII set.
> 
>I take this opertunity to thank all those who post Urdu on the net.
>Now step forward and share your transliteration convention.  Also
>the person making the SCP FAQ please take note -- this would be a
>useful item to include.  
> 
>If the transliteration convention needs more work, I will be willing
>to help.  Eventualy, I would like to see some of that poetry appear 
>in flowing Arabic alphbet.
> 
>Oh, and one more thing:  I hate thew word "poems" in the proposed
>name.  How about "literature" or atleast "poetry"?
> 
>j n a. 


	Long ago Subhas Bose invented a way to write Hindi/Urdu
        in the italic alphabets when he was organizing
	indian national army in Germany. This was how the
        the language was written in his army. May be you
	can rediscover and follow that!

Mirza Ilyas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Subject: And now for something completely different...
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:34:58 GMT


It just occurred to me that there are some people who refuse to
cut their nose hair. I just don't understand this. It looks
really disgusting to see 'jharian' sticking out of the nose.
I'd swear there are some people who actually comb it.
THis problem is not only limited to desis. I have a colleague
at work ( a Greek) who has a similar disposition.

Could someone explain why these people do this ?

waseem
-- 
Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:    (416) 922 1937 
SCO Canada                                        email: waseems@sco.com 
Toronto, Canada                                        uunet!sco!waseems
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: U54134@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: ISLAMIC FOUNDATION FAIR & NON-PAKS?
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:36:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92274.103622U54134
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

For those of you who don't know what the Islamic Foundation is, well, it is
supposed to be a mosque in the greater Chicago area.  As for the Islamic
Foundation Fair well it veritable cornicopia of lust. It is a safe haven
for the waywardly young men and women of the greater Chicago area who
come to satisfy their cravings for the opposite sex.  Why do we need a show lik
like STUDS when we have the real thing right here in which everyone can partic-
ipate.  The best thing about this is that it takes place at an area mosque,
organized, mind you, by yours truly DA PAKS.  People who never set their
eyes on the foundation all year surprisingly make an unexpected appearance
at this wonderful fair of DA PAKS. They come from all walks of Lahore
(I mean, life) to gaze at the Pak beauties who are under gallons of maybelline
mascara(aka kaajill). Besides this orgy of the eyes, spectators can also
glance at the year's latest car models, from Rolls Royce to Toyota Corrollas
our Paks have it all.
This event glamorizes the whole point of the many discussions that take place
on the net about the current situation of the Paks and Pak.  From what we can
see this is a typical event organized mainly by PAks and participated by Indo-
Paks. This isn't organized by any Pak college students sitting in cinemas,
rather by people who have left college for over 20-30 years, but what takes
place there is exactly what those young paks are looking for _ some good food
friends and the main attraction girls ( Of course the best part of it all is
that it is totally justified it's at a mosque and so I guess you will be
rewarded for participating.)  With this kind of behavior by people who claim
to be muslims from a supposedly Islamic State (yeah right!) no wonder
Pakistan is rotting away.  I wouldn't be suprised if what happened to Bosnia
will happen to Pak pretty soon.  After all We PAks are asking for it aren't
We.


- DA PAKS FOR A BETTER PAK.
- Sept. 30, 1992
- Chicago, IL.
From: aq0@engr.uark.edu (Amer Qureshi)
Subject: Re: JOKE....(Pt-2)
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:20:20 GMT

thanks for liking these jokes also thanks for sending me
emails regarding you liked these joke.

if you like jokes, post them yourself also and we can make
SCP a better news group...

amer-

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: haq@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (haq)
Subject: FUND RAISER FOR FLOOD VICTIMS IN PAKISTAN
Summary: PSA PURDUE HOLDS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT
Keywords: flood, PSA Purdue, fund
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:10:32 GMT

Dear Pakistanis,
                Assalam o alaikum. It is with great concern that I talk to you
about the biggest ever natural disaster in our beloved homeland. The total
damage is estimated at more than $2 billion. Destruction of important bridges
and communication links has put Pakistan's security in jeopardy. Our nation
will have to strive for more than a decade to recover from this loss. Added to
the economic burden is death of around 4000 men and women, spread of epidemics,
and displacement of millions from their homes. Thousands of dead bodies of 
humans and cattle are seen floating in the muddy, stinking and stale flood
water. 
       The pakistani students at Purdue have been highly distressed at this 
state of total chaos in Pakistan. Motivated by our national spirit we wanted to
do our bit to recover Pakistan from this disaster. We decided to embark on a
fund raising campaign. It started with an apeal to the members of the local
MSA for donations, but that was'nt all. We knew that as Pakistanis, we must
stand on our own feet and be able to do something on our own. Specially the
cold response from all the Muslim countries and the USA government towards
Pakistan's disaster further strengthened our resolve to do it ourselves.
Thus the PSA Purdue decided to hold a fund raising luncheon at the University.
Though we are a small community here but each one of us was really motivated. 
All the food was contributed by the married Pakistanis. Our ladies (just 14
in number) showed an extreme sense of sacrifice and devotion by cooking
excellent food for around 800 people. We planned the event on 29th Sept. 
and thoroughly advertised it on TV and print media. We did our best and
were now anxious for the results.

       Allah bestowed us with His help and the fund raiser came out to be
a big success. More than 700 members of Purdue faculty, staff and student
community showed up and thoroughly enjoyed the Pakistani food. We ended
up earning around $2500 from this event alone. But this is not all. 
Donation pledges from the Pakistanis, Muslims  and other communites at
Purdue and the Lafayette area are expected to make upto $4000. By the end
of the week we expect to send around $6500 to the Flood releif effort.
We at Purdue are glad that our efforts have borne fruit. I on behalf of 
Purdue Pakistanis urge PSAs all around the world to plan such events at
their campuses. Even if PSAs at 40 universites can collect $5000 each, it
amounts to $200,000 which is four times the aid from USA and shall recover some
%age of the total loss of $2 billion. Its not just a claim any more, we at
Purdue have proven, that together we can do wonders. Join us and put in your
chip. Success is guaranteed.


With Best Wishes,

Tanveer ul Haq.
President,
Pakisran Students Association
Purdue.

--

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: amkhan@engin.umich.edu (Abdul Monuem Khan)
Subject: Re: hello
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 09:39:57 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <25SEP199216031814@che.udel.edu> yasar@che.udel.edu (Muzaffer Yasar) writes:
>
>
>How can I reach to S.C.P

Exactly the same way you have reached now.

KHAN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Economic Aid
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 01:45:13 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c



Baraa faqeer chothay faqeer ko imdad ess leay dataa hay ta kay Allah aus
kee bheek main ezafa kaeray.
From: mahmad@zeus.calpoly.edu (Farooq)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Test :)
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:59:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

This is a Test. Please ignore.

Thank you

:wq
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM)
Subject: dill kush kitta aye....(Was: Gazal)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:53:38 GMT

Sagar A. Kekare writes:
|> 
|> Dear friends,
|> 
|> I do not know where I got this khubsoorat gazal but nevertheless I am posting  
|> it on the circuits for all gazal lovers :
|> 
|>   Tarq-e-mohabbat apani khataa ho aisaa bhi ho sakataa hai
|>   Woh ab bhi paaband-e-wafaa ho aisa bhi ho saktaa hai
|> 
|>   Darwaaze par aahat sun kar uski taraf kyoN dhyaan gayaa
|>   AAne waali sirf hawaa ho aisaa bhi ho saktaa hai
|> 
|>   Haal-e-pareshaaN sunkar meraa aaNkh meiN uske aaNso hai
|>   Maine us se zooth kahaa ho aisaa bhi ho saktaa hai
|> 
|>   Arz-e-talab par uski chup se zaahir hai inkaar magar
|>   Shaayad woh kuch soch rahaa ho aisaa bhi ho saktaa hai
|> 
|>   Had-e-nazar tak sirf dhuaaN thaa barq pe kyoN ilzaam rakhe
|>   Aatish-e-gul se baagh jalaa ho aisaa bhi ho saktaa hai
|> 
|>   Khun-e-tamannaa karanaa uskaa shevaa hai 'manzoor' magar
|>   Haath pe uske rang-e-henna ho aisaa bhi ho saktaa hai
|> 
|> Can anyone tell me who Manzoor is & where can I find more of his compositions ?
|>  



	Thank you for posting this wonderful ghazal.......I know I have
	heard it before, but where and when, I have absolutely no idea.
	I do think, however, that it was in a television mushaira.  

	This is indeed a wonderful ghazal, and for any takers (though I
	doubt there are any out there) it might embody many a lesson
	for SCPians ;-)

	While I cannot match the refreshing freshness of this ghazal or offer
	you more from this poet here are a few couplets that I remember, 
	which are on a similar "zameen":


		kaandhay kaRhiaal kay houN, aur gathRri budhia ki
		boojh uttha kar bhi jee halka ho sakta hai

		aapni saaree saansoouN ki ik naaoo bana lo
		darya kay uss paar bhi darya ho sakta hai

		iss duniya meiN na-mumkin kuch nahiN hai yaaro
		doodh bhi kaRRwa, shehad bhi kaala ho sakta hai

	This, by the way is by poet Muzaffar Warsi, who is best known to
	Pakistani audiences for his "naat's" and "hamd's" which he renders 
	himself in moving presentations.  


	ADIL [asaar mairay youN tou zamanay kay lee-aye haiN
	      kuch sheyr faqt unn ko sunaanay kay lee-aye haiN] NAJAM
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Gulfie Islands (Oded Feingold vs Jews AND Iranians)
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:53:44 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico



In article <1992Sep27.174036.440@osf.org> oaf@serverx.osf.org (Oded Feingold) writes:
>nadeem@bernina.ethz.ch (Nadeem Malik):
>
>>	I feeling is that Iran should show a bit more sense than Iraq
>>	and not play into the hands of USA and Saudi Arabia and simply
>>	do not occuy the Islands.
>
>Are you suggesting that your preferred brand of rapist torturers show
>restraint, and not bring public whippings of women to new pastures?  I
>
>P.S.:   Apologies to the world-wide readership.  Sometimes people who
>	parrot mindless hate irritate me slightly.  I hope my hate is
>	NOT mindless.
>

Your hate is most certainly mindless.

Jewish conspiricy theories are motivated by the same mindless,
atavistic bigotary that prompts unoriginal crypto neo-Nazis like
you to label Iran as a nation of rapists and women-whippers.

It must be getting moist underneath that rock.

j n a.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu)
Subject: Re: khabarnama
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 11:21:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.150315.14379@schbbs.mot.com> (Yasin) 
writes:

>48 rupay ki? kuch samajh nahee aata kay yay kaisay, yaane
>kay bachain wali murghi sasti....... :^) 

aray sahab, yeh gorakh dhanda tow hamari samajh say bhi bala 
tar hai. aap nay tow murghioN kay havalay say baat ki thee 
laikin hamayN to yeh qadar insaanoN mayN bhi mushtarak nazar
aati hai. aisa kyooN hai, yeh tow daanishvaraan-e-scp hi 
bataa sakayN gay.
From: jamshed@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Plane Crash
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:07:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I just heard that a PIA Airbus crashed in Nepal, on the southeastern 
edge of the Katmandu valley killing all 167 passengers on board.

The aircraft, flight PK268 travelling from Karachi, Pakistan, en
route for Dhaka, had been due to land at Katmandu International Airport
at 2.40 p.m yesterday.

More details awaited
--
Jamshed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Subject: Re: PAKISTAN: SEDITION CHARGE DROPPED A
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:19:12 GMT



Dear Netmailers,
Aslam-o-Alaikoom,
I think every one of us is now interested to know the contents of the
PEOM which forced GOP to take such a drastic action against press. Can
some one take the pain of collecting "THE POEM" and circulate it through
this system.
(P.S. I think Adil Anjum can do it. Is it not so Adil ?)

Thanks
Ghazanfar.
New Zealand
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: vdg@eris.cs.wayne.edu (Vincent Del Greco)
Subject: Re: PIA FLIGHT? ANY MORE INFO????
Keywords: PIA, ???
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:09:31 GMT

Could anyone confirm if the Airbus crashed was the older A300, or the 
newly aquired A310-300 series. The reason for the question is that the 
Thai Airways International airbus that crashed was the -300 and that 
might tell something about the reliability of this "newer" aircraft.

Vince.
From: usman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Usman Hameed)
Subject: Re: dEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS AMONG paks
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 17:39:58 GMT

In article <dogar.717178803@opal4> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
>usman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Usman Hameed) writes:
>
>Do you have anything similar at Stanford? Who is this Brother Hamza we keep
>hearing about?

Very interesting hearing about the Inner Circle and 312K.  It seems
a lot more fun, socially, than Stanford. This is California and all that,
but the bottom line is that the campus, and the retirement community
of Palo Alto, are quite irreparably dead!!  To meet real people
and hang out one must take the hour long drive to
San Francisco, which is by far the most liveable city in the country.

As for Brother Hamza, I must defer to my brother Sahibzada
Abdur Rafay Khan Textile-Mill-Walla, Jaguar owner, and blonde
connoisseur extraordinaire.  He alone can shed light on the great
Hamza.

Usman

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