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Original-From: mhwpa!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:55:00 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Self-Hating Jews
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>>irony.  In fact, the mordant humor of _Portnoy_ was no more nor less
>>funny than the jokes Jewish males told about themselves.
>
>What about Mordecai Richler ?  Duddy Kravitz is surely one of the
>most stereotypically Jewish nasty guys in literature, but I don't
>remember great outcries that Richler was a self-hating Jew when
>the book or the movie came out.  Today he is seen as a defender
>of Jewish interests in Quebec and an unmasker of latent anti-Semitisn
>there.

I had forgotten about Richler.  You're right: but there's something
different in the effect.  I read _The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz_
about 20 years ago, and its impact wasn't the same as Portnoy's,
though.  Alex Portnoy is not nasty: he's alternately a schmendrik, a
schlemiel, a schlimazel, and a putz (you there, Akio??).  But he's not
nasty, he's just maladroit and unlucky.  Duddy Kravitz, as I remember
him, is a deliberately manipulative bastard who will fuck you in all
senses of the word.  There was that kind of Jew in U.S.
Jewish-American writing before Roth: some of Bud Schulberg's heros,
like Sammy Glick, are despicable.  But Roth tried to take a guy who
did crummy things but was was not himself a bad person, and relate his
maladroitness to his family and--perhaps, yes--to what certain kinds
of Jewishness in this country did to a generation of its young men.
That is why Roth caught hell: because Alex Portnoy was the STANDARD,
not a "bad apple."

Ken
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Real BWP Stats
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

>         gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.C...       38
>         toal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK        9
>                                     _______
>                                        417
>
> Oink oink!!!

Graham,

You forgot to include the totals from the "Niteman" address...

-abh
oops! I shouldn't have mentioned that!
From: kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA (Agnes Kruchio)
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Date: 17 Nov 92 02:53:16 GMT
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              16, 92 8:45 pm

>
> Natalie,
>  Now I know why I still feel like a newbie.  What ever happened to those
> folks who were posting in the neighborhood of 400 messages?  And abh had
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> under 10??? :-)
>
> doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
>


*400*? Where ever did they get the time?
A
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Quiet Night?
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          Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>
              15 Nov 1992 23:25:29 -0500 from <jrlst14+@PITT.EDU>

On Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:25:29 -0500 James R Llewellyn said:
>Were Sherlock and Watson lovers?
   no.

>What is the best poem to woo women?
   there are none.

>Should a man be more concerned with pc or chivalry?
   neither.

>What does eating escargot feel like?
   eating garlic flavored pencil erasers.

>At what age should a man buy his first La-Z-Boy?
   seventeen....or eighteen if you have to be that old to be a man....

>Which is more impressive? 400 passing yards or 300 rushing yards?
   300 rushing.

>What one act is the the best thing you have done?
   joined words-l.   second place was attending the clambake.

>If you were stranded on an island with one other wordsler, whom would it be?
   tushiebaby.   (although it would be natalie as long as there were no
                   cigarettes around and i didn't have to sleep with bernard)



      dan
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:42:47 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Priorities of a BWP
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Greetings from my new disk.  It feels great to be back at my real computer
again instead of on the mushy-keyed laptop that balks at high baud rate of
VDM.  Being a true BWP, I have only one program on the disk so far:  Procomm
Plus.  The other stuff can wait.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ST402747@brownvm.brown.edu (blomberg cepeda)
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Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:54:06 GMT
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Posted by Alec

>I guess you are following the old CSN song "If you can't be
>with one's you love, love the one's you are with"
>My guess is that CSN hates Republicans. Although,
>i think one of their best songs comes from a Republican
>screw-up. The song is "Ohio" Nixon was Pres. and
>I think Ohio had a Repub. Gov.

I <hate> being old enough to remember this, but "Love the One You're With"
was a Stephens Stills song, as in solo. And it was indeed Rhodes who ordered
(maybe not officially, but I don't believe them) the dirty deed. I still
remember the _next_ morning, somehow having spaced on watching the news the
previous night, when I went to get the pile of Globes I would soon deliver, and
seeing The Photo taking up most of the front page. I was only 12, but it was
still a kick in the balls. As it is, I believe Neil Young wrote the song in an
hour, and performed it that night--creative fury in action.


blomberg cepeda     st402747@brownvm
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: My first CS assignment: THE WAKATRON!
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: /*          SMITH - A program to wakate texts. FREE!!          */

: #include <stdio.h>
: #include <sys/types.h>

: #define WORD  word=!(word)
: #define WAKA {putchar('<');waka=!waka;}
: #define AKAW {putchar('>');waka=!waka;}
: #define toss !(rand()&3)
: #define stop (c=='.'||c==','||c==';'||c=='?'||c=='!'||c==':')
: #define whit (c==' '||c=='\t'||c=='\n')

: int waka, word, c;

: main() {
:   srand(getpid());
:   if (toss) WAKA
:   while((c=getchar())!=EOF) {
:     if (word && whit) {
:       WORD; if (waka && toss) AKAW}
:     if (!word && !whit) {
:       WORD; if (!waka && toss) WAKA}
:     if (stop && waka) {
:       AKAW}
:     putchar(c);
:   }
:   if (waka) AKAW
: }

Oh tushar!  You didn't give up your day job for this did you?!

G
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 17 Nov 1992 05:46:05 GMT
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In a previous article, harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) says:

>Things are getting <sticky> in here.
>
>-abh
>I need a shower
>
Not a <golden> one, perhaps....  [yes, she said that folks - from the
minds that brought you brass buttplugs....]  A cold one, maybe; of course
up here in New England right now, there's no such thing as a warm one....
[at 3p.m., it was 0C in my back yard]

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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Imposter
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Posted on 22 Nov 1992 at 21:33:58 by Rita Marie Rouvalis
>Ghopod
>forbid I excercise any judgement or preference in my reading
>materials.

Which reminds me, did you ever read that Sneaky Pie Brown book?  Did
you like it?

Karen
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Another Contest
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Gilbert Gabriel, I agree with Bayla...absolutely not.

-----Nancy Harwood-----------------------------------------------------------
Journalism Department                           Telephone:  (713) 357-3254
Tomball High School                             Fax:  (713) 357-3248
13705 Sandy Lane
Tomball, TX  77375                              Inquiring minds want to know.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:02:40 -0500
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Headless Chickens ...Everywhere
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              92 5:53 pm

>
> rashmi
> (who never learned to type)
>
Good. But then (Multi-choice):

1. You are getting <male> volunteers to type your papers.

2. You do your typing by letting your fingers do the walking.

3. Netting, for you, is really quite a <feat>.
A
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From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (68)

> 16) GTE (Emily)

General Telephone and Electric - a friend of mine is an engineer there and I
asked someone on this list to find me his e-address (got it, too!)

> 20) Cal Worthington (Emily)

Cal Worthington is an institution in southern California - he's been around as
long as I can remember him (which is at least twenty years). He owns several
auto dealerships around here, and does his own commercials on TV. The announ-
cer always says "Here's Cal Worthington and his doooooogggggg SPOT!" Spot is
usually a tiger, sometimes an elephant or a bear. Kids love these commericals;
grownups think he's a cheap salesman (which he is, but he's made millions, so
somebody's listening).

Emily
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:20:34 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Another high-level chalko (was Re: Usenet question)
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> Doris made her typo into an object of embarrassment. But
> I WAS talking about infrequent mistakes, particularly
> whether confusion of "meaning" (hard to express this)
> could be a cause.
>
Tushar,
 I've been trying to notice the kinds of typos/chalk-o's I make so I could
tell you.  Today for some reason I kept typing "was" when I meant to type
"saw."  Does that mean my fingers are dyslexic?
Doris
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:04:45 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: :-)
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> >   Three times this
> > week [name deleted] traffic has gone over 50 messages-per-day and shut down
> > automatically.  I could raise the shut-down limit but I won't; no
> > human being on earth needs to receive more than 50 messages a day
> > from any one list.
>
This sounds like a very sick person!
ndh
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Subject:      Re: Southern Culture on the Skids

Greetings,  Bekka,

Stay!  At last a newbie who already understands the crucial lesson to be
learned at the altar of Words-l: all our messages are "just random
thought patterns late at night."  It has taken Tushar years to come to
the same understanding.

I hardly think you could find a better place to play than right here, Bekka.

By the way, the other singer was Iris Dement.  Her album is called
*Infamous Angel."  I think it's on Rounder or one of the affiliated
labels, but I don't have it at hand.  I can't believe you found Uncle Bonsai
difficult to take.  What about their great songs like "Boys want sex in the
morning,"  "Fat boys,"  "Don't put it in your mouth," "Penis envy,"
(which has the great culminating line "If I had a penis, I'd still be a girl,
but I'd make much more money and conquer the world."), and "We're only in
it for the children."

You just need more exposure.

Marty
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject: Re: November 22

Earlier today, <gilbertsmith> asked,

: Oh, yeah.  I get it!  So, this means that person B asks a question
: and Person A *knew* what the question was going to be before person
: B asked it...  Yeah, I get it!  That is *really* funny!  Really.
: Of course, Person B should really ask "How long have you been
: <psychic>?"  That makes it even *more* funny.  Right, sk?

I never discuss game theory with humanities types.  It's just not
efficient.

Steve Karlson

The perfect Nash equilibrium is a new Volkswagen.
From: DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078)
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*** Resending note of 11/17/92 14:32


>Is it even necessary to observe that "courage of conviction" is also

When I was in the Air Force and had to process many promotion evaluations,
I always thought the phrase "courage of his convictions" was one of the
most hackneyed, meaningless, trite, useless phrases to describe a person's
worth ....and I still think the same.
From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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              16 Nov 1992 10:17:00 CST from <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:17:00 CST Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815) said:
>Tony, did you ever see _The Right Stuff_?  What sperm motility had
>to do with space flight still escapes me.  Does anyone here know
>what the NASA doctors had in mind?
>
   My second exwife ran a number of times in mountain ultraruns.  Like the
Sandia Peak Crossing, 28 miles at elevations from 6000 to 10678 to 7000,
rough trail, some places no trail.  28 miles.  They had to stop midway
and run on a tread mill for five minutes while monitored for heart, lungs,
ekg, etc.  Emphasized it was NOT a race, but a run....but you cna believe
it was a RACE to the 50 a year who did it for UNM Medical School.

Anyhow, the relevance is that each year at end the survivors were taken
to tents for added medical tests.  One year eyeball pressure.  Another
year blood tests of some sort, another urine.  One year the men
who had just run 28 miles at high altitude and were usually bloody from
falls, as well as exhausted after 3 to 5 hours of this, were supposed
to pprovide a SPERM SAMPLE.  No "illustrated fantasy material".  Privacy
limited to a little tent, with hundreds of people right outside, most
of them drinking and partying and eating cause the thing was over, and
the rest of the families were glad the runners were alive.

Well, NO ONE provided one.  It was about half an organized strike, but
some reportedly really tried, but no could do.....

They didn't do THAT test again.

Anything to keep the scientists happy, whether on a mountain or in space....


dan

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:13:35 -0500
From:         James R Llewellyn <jrlst14+@PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "ILLITERATE GENERATION"

My knickers are currently being unknotted by a professional in such matters.

Peace, Love, and Boxers,
Jim
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N>>>>Gilbert Gabriel, I agree with Bayla...absolutely not.

T>>> A new twist to the plain vanilla "...NOT!"
T>>> How many people have heard this?

K>>First time I've heard it, really.  What a waste of language. ...

T>Well, Nancy, you are the coiner of a brand new tag!

Hey, come *on*, everybody! You are all pretending that
Nancy is saying she doesn't agree with Bayla, while we
all know that she is *agreeing* with Bayla, and telling
-ggs NOT to start up any fresh garbage...

judith
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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>
> Reversi is like Othello.  It's not as addicting as Microsoft Solitaire,
> though, IMHO.
>
Have you tried Microsoft's version of Mahjongg?  I think it is called
tapai, or something very similar.  Now *that* is addicting.  I also like
the solitaire game.
doris
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blast From The Past (Long!)
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> *400*? Where ever did they get the time?

That wasn't 400 per day.  Did you notice how small the daily average
was back then?  That's one thing I found especially interesting.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      hip hip
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              10 Nov 1992 06:47:24 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:47:24 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>P.S.  The list didn't fall apart then.  It's not gonna fall apart now.
>Let's hear it for Portland '93.

Hip, hip, hoooray....hip, hip, hooray....hip, hip, hooray....

Portland 93, portland 93,

rah!!!  rah!!!!  Raaaaaahhhhhh!   Ra[.msstate.edu]

dan in potatoland, busy taking care of his sick,barfy,pukey,shitty dear wife
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:59:49 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92112222184231@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:

>Which reminds me, did you ever read that Sneaky Pie Brown book?  Did
>you like it?

	Not yet, my mother just finished it and it hasn't worked its
way into my reading queue yet.  Mom thought it was just great, though.
Which reminds me, I need to ask Giggles for some recommendations on
female Hispanic poets and translations.




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Subject:      Re: Eggspots in the fridge

Welcome to the context-free languages club, Marty! For some days
now, I have been watching a burgeoning wish in your mind to join
in! Let me set your mind at rest by assuring you that you have
made a very impressive debut!

tushar
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:51:58 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Amusing fact
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It <appears> that the whole time UGA was down, -ggs did nothing but sit
around and mail messages to the list, waiting for a reply.

I mean, <really>.

-abh
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In a previous article, samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>>repeat to yourself:
>>     I have a vocabulary of seven words
>>
>>-K
>>-Mka
>Ten to one Graham is typing in a message this very minute saying
>that he did this on words-l three years ago.
>
>tushar

Nope.  He wasn't here three years ago.  Heck, *I* wasn't here three
years ago, and Graham is post-Galmin, whose advent I remember quite well.

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