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In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:

> In article <122460001@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
> >Why?  Is the quote above an example of why you fear him.  Data on ozone
> >depletion SOUNDS real, and skin cancer rates are on the rise are they not?
> >I saw somewhere that one good sunburn when you are a child dramatically
> >raises the chances for skin cancer.  With depleted ozone, it is probably
> >even more important to be worried about exposure.  Gore's statement
> >sounds fairly responsible to me.
> 
> Odd.  You see this as a responsible comment by someone who cares about the
> environment.  I see a politically powerful politician who wants to scare
> children.  

I agree, your statement is odd.  As a matter of fact, I cannot
say anything whatsoever about Gore's motivations, but the sunburn
statement was not made by Gore.

I repeat my assertion that data on the deterioration of the environment
seems to be cause for concern.  There is undoubtedly extremism on 
the subject (on BOTH sides), but that does not need to effect
moderate concern.

doug
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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Did I miss something?
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<92272.192542KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <3736@eastman.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:40:16 GMT

In article <3736@eastman.UUCP> dan@ektools.kodak.com (Daniel P. Schaertel) writes:
             [...]
   Why ? because a good portion of the net is comprised of college
   students.  People who haven't had to pay the price that liberalism
   brings.  These people are very idealistic.  So is liberalism.  The
   problem is when you live in the real world you see that the ideas of
   these people don't work.  I used to be somewhat liberal myself, but 14
   years in the work force and a family of 4 has changed the way I look at
   life.  My VALUES are different.  These college students basically are
   only responsible for themselves,(and many of them probably aren't even
   good at that).  They haven't really learned what responsibility is.  And
   that is one of the major difference between liberalism and conservatism.

Yeh, Dan, I can hardly wait to get out of college (I got my BSEE in 1971). And
I can hardly wait to get out into the world (21 years of working as a
design engineer - my controllers have flown on the Shuttle, and I have a
patent on a telemetry system) and I can hardly wait to get some experience
in business (I had a profitable consulting business for 8 years). So what 
the hell would someone like *me* know about the world? (I'm just an evil 
liberal.)

It is precisely this sort of stereotyping of people that destroys the 
credibility of most of the New Righters in the Rush Adoration Society. 
Of course, that's the Rush Limbaugh way, isn't it? 

BTW, I seem to be a draft dodger too. I had a college deferrment for a year
and a half, was 1A for a while, had three years of ROTC in college, and 
participated in the lottery, where I received the number 283 (March 13, 
check it out) and somehow did not get drafted. Several of my high school 
friends weren't so lucky, and returned from the glorious and honorable 
Vietnam experience in body bags. 
 
It must be nice to have things so well partitioned into Evil Liberal and
Righteous Conservative. And now that we know the Real World is so
incredibly simple too, I guess we can all figure out which side of the
partition we are actually on, right?

Have a nice day, feller.

L.
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From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Subject: Re: Did I miss something?
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 20:53:13 GMT
Distribution: na, usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <1992Sep30.180354.4683@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.224315.19374@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> madkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Martin L. Adkins) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.190854.21294@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>>>In article <92272.192542KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, you have to realize that the Net is a liberal haven, with a low
>>>>percentage of conservatives.  (Don't ask me why, it's just a fact.)
>>>
>>>Thats due to the fact that you have to be able to type (even with just one
>>>finger) to use the Net.  That eliminates most conservatives.
>>>
>>>Have a nice day :)  No, on second thought, have a repressed, regulated,
>>>guilt filled conservative day.
>>
>>Now I must admit this is the type of liberal argument I'm quite used to
>>with no facts and considerable name calling.   I believe that there is
>>still room in this counntry for diverse opinion, political correctness
>>not withstanding.  Personaly I believe my arguments are sufficiently strong
>>to allow me to resist the overwhelming urge to call you an idiot.
>>Have a day:)  No second thoughts required.
>
>(Well, since this _is_ alt.FAN.rush_limbaugh, let me respond in the same
>fashion as Rush does when a liberal caller objects to his hasty 
>overgeneralizations and cruel jokes)
>
>This just shows that you people have no sense of humor. (crinkle paper)
>You can't take a joke.  Hey, lighten up, have fun, laugh a little. 
>(drum fingers on console)

And if you can't laugh at yourself, listen to me laughing at you.

===============================================================================

William Crosmun
crosmun@dg-rtp.dg.com

===============================================================================
"Up until they handcuffed me and his mother, Darren had no idea what
 he had done. I always told him to do what he was told in school and 
 that's all he did."

		 Fred R. Davis - whose 10-yr old son reported him to the police for
		 cocain possession.

===============================================================================
"Socialism has a bad name in America, and no amount of wishful thinking on the 
part of the left is going change that in our lifetimes....The words Economic
Democracy are an adequate and effective replacement."

						   Derek Shearer - Advisor to Bill Clinton

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From: griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Did I miss something?
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:14:01 GMT
Distribution: na, usa
Organization: Michigan State University

tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:

>Thats due to the fact that you have to be able to type (even with just one
>finger) to use the Net.  That eliminates most conservatives.

Does this even make sense?  Such rapier wit....
-- 
Dan Griffin                     "We lost our corkscrew and had to live
griffin@egr.msu.edu              on food and water."  WC Fields
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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh on Madonna (was Re: Summary Mon 10/5/92)
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:50:29 GMT
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

In article <92280.013331KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.001338.27975@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) says:
>
>>        It seems that he _relished_ the thought of her being sexually
>>humiliated, which I find rather sick. Yes, sick. I think sex should be
>>for enjoyment, not for humiliation, whatever Rush Limbaugh may think.
>
>It was a joke.
>
>To you also get offended by Helen Keller jokes, Christa McAuliffe jokes,
>or blonde jokes?
>
>------------
>Kurt Ludwick
>------------

Gee, weren't you the guy who got all offended by my joke that conservatives
have trouble typing, even with one finger?

Tom   :)

Hey, it's just a joke.  This message is a joke, Rushes comments about
Madonna were a joke, and Kurt Ludwick is a joke.

Laugh that one off, Kurtsy pooh.

Hey, it's just another joke... don't get offended.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh on Feminism
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:24:20 GMT


In a previous article, nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) says:

>ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes:
>
>>In other words, any woman who works outside the home, or who is in
>>any way politically active (with the exception of Phyllis Schlafley (who's
>>picture, I understand, sits beside his bed, and gives him an object on
>>which to base his sexual fantisies (grin)))
>
>    This is where you loose most of your credibility. To claim, even in 
>jest, that *anyone* could base sexual fantasies on a photograph of Mrs 
>Schlafley is patently absurd.

Granted, it is...

As is Rush's entire line of rheteric...

>
>--
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>Psychology Department               Indiana University
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>
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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,alt.sex,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:59:13 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:

From an article which included comments by:
+Erik Karl Witte <ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
>I wasn't aware that death was an appropriate consequence for having sex.

It wasn't the last time I checked. But that is the case for many people
who are HIV+. (Granted, I should modify that statement, and say it was a
death sentence, not death itself.)
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
Biomedical Engineer 1993	Never take me too seriously.
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
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From: griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: It gets bigger (was Re: The Big Lie)
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:33:50 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:

>basic principles regarding data reporting....
>That me remind you, son, no matter how vivid and believable you make it
>look, what you write without reference is DISCARDED.

Oh, if only this were true!  How much utter nonsense not backed up with
one single fact gets reported as 'news' and fact every day?

>    Now if you were my student, you would be called into my office and
>we'd have a good talk.

Well, Min, as someone who is too lazy to trim down a 106 line article
for a 9 line response, I'm sure we'd all take your advice to heart, too.
-- 
Dan Griffin                     "We lost our corkscrew and had to live
griffin@egr.msu.edu              on food and water."  WC Fields
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Scarey tag line...
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Distribution: world,usa,na,alt
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:47:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.170712.16419@wdl.loral.com> eric@wdl35.wdl.loral.com (Eric Kuhnen) writes:
>
>Mr. Quayle may not be a graduate of the Emily Post Finishing School, but his
>common sense on the issues that really matter suggest that his presidency 
>would be characterized by reason and sound judgment.

You expect reason and sound judgement from a person who argues with a fictional
television character, claims that fictional character owes him something, and
sends gifts to an equally fictional offspring of the aforementioned fictional
character?

May I ask what planet you are from?

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit... somewhat the same distance from the
 Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals,
 we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If
 oxygen, that means we can breathe."
					-Vice President Dan Quayle
From: pgk@pacersoft.com (Paul Kamp)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:31:09 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,alt.sex,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct4.183314.1679@nwnexus.WA.COM>, jbrindle@halcyon.com
(Jennifer Brindle) wrote:
> In other words, she made her bed now she should be forced to lie in it.
> Sounds like punishing her for wanting sex, doesn't it?  Doesn't sound
> like any higher beliefs like the fetus is a person, but control and
> punishment, pure and simple.  She had sex voluntarily, and therefore must pay.
> Has absolutely nothing to do with fetal rights at all.

I think I should jump in right about here . . . I am on the Pro-life side
of the fence but I do not like all the postings that put the burden of the
pregnancy on the woman.  I have seen no postings on the responsibilities of
the father in this equation.

I think too often our society will pin the responsibility for preganancy on
women and leave men out of it.  If men were held as responsible for the
pregnancy as women then I think attitudes would change.  The child support
laws do not do enough to hold men accountable for their actions and should
be changed.  I think that often abortion is a response to a hopeless
situation because the woman is left alone with the decision and the state
does not do enough to hold the man responsible too.

I do not want to see women "punished" for having sex.  I want to see men
and women held responsible for the consequences of having sex. I do not
want to see the "fetus" suffer for their lack of responsibility.

Paul Kamp
Pacer Software, Inc.
Internet: pgk@pacersoft.com
AppleLink: PACER
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Did I miss something?
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<92272.192542KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <1alblvINNlb3@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:11:51 GMT

   In article <92272.192542KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
   >Well, you have to realize that the Net is a liberal haven, with a low
   >percentage of conservatives.  (Don't ask me why, it's just a fact.)
                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   >Then it all makes sense.

God, I do love it so when the sword of impeccable logic is wielded by 
the mighty arm of the New Right!

Dittodom should adopt it as their official motto:

	"Don't ask me why, it's just a fact.."

By golly, it sure does make sense, doesn't it?

  (..)
   ~~
L.
[apologies to spl for posting on his back..]

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: gardwt@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Limbaugh Fan
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:03:04 GMT

I just want to say that I am very happy that there is someone out there that
sticks up for the Republicans. The damn media is so BIASED!!!!
Tom Brokaw is so damn unfair it make me SICK!!!!!
And, that idiot from CBS is still bitter because Bush made him look
like an idiot! They are all out to bash him....

LONG LIVE RUSH LIMBAUGH!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,alt.sex,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
From: jbrindle@halcyon.com (Jennifer Brindle)
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:32:04 GMT

In article <1afr1pINNnh7@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@yaya.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>
>	Small question:  How can someone NOT know that having a baby is a
>natural consequence of sex?  I mean, this is not exactly unknown information;
>I suppose it's possible someone wouldn't know this, but REALLY REALL REALLY
>unlikely.
>

Jay,
I've had sex literally thousands of times.  I've only become pregnant
twice.  I've had far more orgasms as a result of sex than I've had babies.
I'd say that a far more "natural consequence" of sex is pleasure.  But then
I'm not bogged down by some puritan repressionist attitudes, either.

And one more thing, not everyone who has sex risks pregnancy.  My best friend
has been having sex for over 6 years now, completely unprotected, and never
once has she become pregnant.  Although she'd love to.  My mother doesn't
risk a pregnancy when she has sex--ever.  Adrienne is right, infertile and
post-menapausal women are just as invisible, if not more so, than women in
general.

Jennifer
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Bob Dornan on Bill Clinton - IMPORTANT
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:09:44 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <Oct.4.01.04.33.1992.21162@andromeda.rutgers.edu> detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) writes:

[ ... Summary of Dornan-dork's "crusade" deleted ... ]

>-- 
>---------------------------------
>     David De Trolio
>---------------------------------
>(detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)


Let's see ...

When challenged, Dornan can produce __NO__ proof for any of his
allegations.

Dornan appears on C-SPAN, speaking to an empty House chamber.

Yup, this guy ranks #1 on my list of "politicians to be believed".

Sheesh....


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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:41:58 GMT

jseaver@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:

>In article <adams.718034098@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>>jseaver@arkose.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>>
>>>	Very, VERY few people would complain about abortion when the mother's
>>>life is in danger.  However, if the woman is pregnent through voluntary sex...
>>>Well, you could say she's committed herself.
>>
>>Not at all.  Assume that she is using effective birth control, and using it
>>properly.  She still gets pregnant.  Where did she agree to pregnancy?
>
>	It depends.  Is she responsible for her actions?  You don't do anything
>without possible consequences.  She should accept the consequences for her
>actions (to me, this sounds like a tough statement to disagree with.  However,
>I've been amazed before).

And she should have the whole range of options in dealing with those
consequences...including abortion.

Tough statement to disagree with...but I've been amazed before.

 -Steve
--
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Did I miss something?
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:11:49 GMT
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University

Randy Eugene Griffith <rg3c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>So I'm looking through the list of 5000 some bb's one day, and I see
>netnews.alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...  And I think, "Great, more Rush
>Limbaugh fans!"  

    Yeah, that's the ticket.

>So I check out some messages.  It seems that there are far more haters
>of Rush Limbaugh here than fans.  Is this really a fan base?

    Absolutely. Rush is the man we love to hate.

>  If all you
>people want to do is lambast everything Rush says, why don't you start a
>alt.critic.rush-limbaugh bb?

    I dunno. If you want to hear only positive things about him, why don't 
you start an alt.praise.rush-limbaugh. Being a fan doesn't mean you have 
to agree with every syllable Rush utters.

>As far as I'm concerned, I think the fact that all you people listen to
>Rush seemingly religously, even though you obviously resent the man, is
>a testament to the simple truth of his words.

    Strange, I would've said that it was actually just a testament to the
modern fascination with grotesque caricatures of reality.

>-- Randy "The Apeman" Griffith
>"You gonna be the new worm face now"

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
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From: mpolen@suntory.mti.sgi.com (Michael Polen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,alt.sex,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:57:43 GMT
Organization: Mips Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mpolen@suntory.mti.sgi.com (Michael Polen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: suntory.mti.sgi.com

Jason John Seaver) writes:
|> 
|> 	Small question:  How can someone NOT know that having a baby is a
|> natural consequence of sex?  I mean, this is not exactly unknown information;
|> I suppose it's possible someone wouldn't know this, but REALLY REALL REALLY
|> unlikely.
|> 
|> 	I may be in the minority for conservatives, but I have very little
|> trouble with sex education, or, indeed, education of any sort.  One cannot
|> expect people to act responsibly with too little data.  
|> 

You asked and answered your question.  Due to inadequate sex education and
over adequate peer pressure, many young kids (12-18) engage in practices
they do not think can lead to pregnancy.  They firmly believe that the
method they are using is 100% foolproof.  Add this to the natural feelings
of immortality at that age (nothing will happen to me) and the total
disconnect with long term that most kids enjoy, any you will wonder
why so many kids do understand.
-- 
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