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Organization: Delta Group




There is a PD package calle .AI.mats.  I'm sure it probably does Mac 
files to, but you'd have to check the alover the place, just use archie 
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From: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Time Changer for networks???
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:05:30 GMT
Reply-To: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au

From article <Bx3xqo.MsG@andy.bgsu.edu>, by jdolske@andy.bgsu.edu (justin dolske):
> crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman) writes:
>> Anybody know of a good program that can be used with an AppleShare network
>> to set the time on all workstations easily?
>> 
> 
>   On a related note, how about a utility that will *lock* the time after it's
> been set? Ie, once the network time is set, I'd like to make sure the users
> can't change, or at least can't easily change, the time.
> 
use archie -s timelord
this will locate the programs that you are after.

Timelord resides on the server (can be any machines) and tardis on the client

reboot causes the client to check with server for correct time.

I found it as:

Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au

    Location: /micros/mac/umich/system.extensions/cdev
           FILE -r--r--r--      14989  Jul 24 1991  timelord.cpt.hqx

If you are worried about people changing time, remove alarm clock and general
from the system.

Not a permanent fix, I know, but it will fox the idle.

Martin


Martin Levins                               Internet: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Director of Computing                                     Applelink: AUST0479
The Armidale School                                      Phone: +61.67.738219
Australia                                                  Fax: +61.67.738230
From: pmangiafico@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word Processors for Powerbooks
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:05:32 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

Hello all. I'm upgrading from an old Mac Plus to a Powerbook 160 soon 
(still waiting for the PB to arrive) and have started thinking about 
upgrading software too. Right now I work with an old version of 
WriteNow, and have been considering moving up to a new word processor 
to use with the PB. Can anyone give me some advice on recent versions 
of Word, WordPerfect, WriteNow, Nisus, or any other word processors that you 
can recommend? Also, to what extent should I consider smaller programs 
to conserve disk space and memory on the PB (I understand that 
WriteNow is fairly compact as is Nisus)? Does one lose features or 
speed from these smaller versions, and is it worth the trade off?

Thanks in advance for your advice. Please answer directly to me.

Paul Mangiafico			pmangiafico@guvax.georgetown.edu
From: HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: CopyDoubler made GateKeeper flip (maybe)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:14:10 PST
Organization: Fifth Generation Systems
Reply-To: HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3

In article <lfm63bINN85a@dimebox.cs.utexas.edu> you write:
> From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
> Subject: Re: CopyDoubler made GateKeeper flip (maybe)
> Date: 6 Nov 1992 19:14:19 -0600
...
> 
> 	this is an incompatibility between CD and GK which (has been related to
> 	me) the author(s) of CD is/are refusing to address.  To the best of my
> 	knowledge, GateKeeper's author Chris Johnson has been interested and
> 	willing to cooperate with CD's authors to resolve the issues (and I have
> 	myself been in the loop, trying to see this happen) but, apparently, the
> 	CD authors take the attitude that they do not need to bother making any
> 	efforts on their part to accomodate "unimportant fringe products"... 
> 	I think they are dead wrong and that (and other things I have noticed
> 	about their products) had me conclude that AD/CD/DD is software to be
> 	avoided....
...
Chris Johnson has not contacted us for any information. If and when
he does, we would like to work with him in resolving the problem.

Everything we do in CopyDoubler uses legitimate and standard system
calls. In general, we are willing to change our code if we can in
order to avoid a problem. However, we need to do certain things and
to do those things we make standard system calls. Lacking alternatives,
that's all we can do and it's up to Mr. Johnson to change GateKeeper
in those cases.

Lloyd Chambers
Salient/FGS
AutoDoubler author, DiskDoubler author,
CopyDoubler co-author

for all FGS products FIFTHGEN@aol.com
for AutoDoubler & DiskDoubler techsupport@salient.com
From: papillo@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Ellison)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:16:01 GMT
Subject: WriteNow 3.0 & PICT = poor printing?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps

I seem to have a problem with PICT graphics in WriteNow 3.0.

If I create a PICT graphic with some text components, scale it as a group,
and copy it into a WriteNow document, it looks fine on-screen, but the
text part of the graphic prints in the wrong place.

Best guess is that the text part is printing at its original (unscaled)
location.

T-Maker tech support doesn't have anything helpful; can anyone on the net
tell me how to get around this?

Bob Ellison, HP Fort Collins
From: hendrick@fozzy.UUCP (Bill Hendricks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for photo and painting/graphics program...
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:07:56 GMT
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Richardson Texas, USA

hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:


>Hi folks.  It seems I post this question at least 3 times a year, nad
>here it goes again.  I have need for a photo-retouch/manipulation
>program.  I'd also like to have some painting/drawing capabilities in
>the program.  Create my own paintings as well as illustrations (there's
>a difference).

>So what's the best for the money out there to manipulate and retouch
>photos?  I've looked at Photoshop but I think this is only black and
>white....  no colour photo manipulations (although you can add
>colour).  Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Whoa! That info couldn't be more wrong! It's full color!

I use it every day in my business, and can heartily recommend
it. There *is* one problem with Adobe PhotoShop, though...
after using it for a while, you tend to think less of your
otherwise favorite software ;-).

Just a satisfied user.

Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Farmer)
Subject: Re: ** SELECTING MAIL PROGRAMS?? **
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: NCSA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:42:25 GMT

In article <jfelder-051192153028@latvia.lerc.nasa.gov>,
jfelder@lerc.nasa.gov (James L. Felder) wrote:
> 

> Comming the other way is just a simple.  The QM user uses an internet style
> address in addressing the message.  The gateway knows to put it out the
> SMTP gateway.  The gatway uuencodes any attachments.  The latest version of
> Eudora (1.3b6) has a uudecoder built-in.

I would also like to endorse Eudora. Most of our center, the university and
schools that we work with use Eudora for Mac mail. one correction the most
recet version is something like 1.3b106 and a no beta 1.3 is expected very
soon.
 
Thanks
Chuck
cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu


Only a fool is sure - Moe Howard
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From: brownc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Christopher C. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted,alt.binaries.sounds.d,alt.binaries.sounds.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED: convert Mac sounds to Sun .au format
Keywords: HELP!
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:05:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester

Try au<->snd available (i think) from anonymous FTP.

- Chris
From: al161926@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Jesus Barrera Ramos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Does anybody knows some programm to make posters
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:10:25 GMT

Hi everybody

I'm really having troubles finding a programm that helps me to make posters from
FreeHand 2.02 images and from SuperPaint 2.0, I have a quite old version of PosterMaker but it doesn't print in Laser and doesn't accept FreeHand files, I am
looking for something to do posters of four letter pages size (2x2) and something capable to print with good quality in laser (no borders cut). Any suggestion 
of where can I find something like that?. Thanks in advance.

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=    ____                 =   Eqix                                            =
=     \   \  ----         =   A.K.A. Jesus Barrera Ramos                      =
=       \   \  /          =   al161926@academ01.mty.itesm.mx                  =
=        /   /            =   Eqix@RobotechMUSH                               =
=      /   /\   \         =   Eqix@KobraMUD                                   =
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=                         =          Dreams are the energy of life            =
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: Autodoubler & other transparent compression progs
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:09:41 GMT

In article <1dohodINNduo@armory.centerline.com>, chapman@centerline.com
(Scott Chapman, (Scott Chapman x233)) wrote:
> 
> the users wants to know is can AIC compress files that *do not* require AD
> to be installed in order to work. And I believe the answer is yes, but not by
> default. I believe (and you may have to check the manual, or perhaps our good

All AIC-compressed files will work on a machine without AD installed.  You
don't have to do anything special in AIC to make this work.  

But the first time (after booting) any such file is used on a machine
without AD, you get a dialog saying that the file was compressed by AIC. 
But according to the Salient rep, doing this violates the license
agreement:

>>Let me rephrase that. The LICENSE does require that the machine that
>>AutoDoubler will be installed on is the only machine that AIC'd software
>>run on.  In other words the software LICENSE is for a single computer.

Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Calendar that pages?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:14:19 GMT

rick@howtek.UUCP (Rick Roy) writes:


>In article <1992Oct27.161241.13845@pixel.kodak.com> (comp.sys.mac.apps), sloey@kodak.com writes:
>] Can anyone out there save me some trouble. When it comes to meetings I have a
>] mind like a seive. I've missed three in the last 2 weeks with the same person.
>] Is there a calendar for the Mac that dials out to a pager? I use a digital
>] pager so there's not much in the way of an audio message that could be used,
>] just a few numbers touched toned through it to jog my memory.

>	I don't think any *single* package will do exactly what you'd
>like. It sounds like you need Easy Alarms. EA 2.0 can send AppleEvents
>to other applications. Have it tell HyperCard (you *do* have HyperCard
>don't you?) to do the dialling.

Easy Alarms can also send a page event to Notify, which would do the work
of actually sending the message.  If you have an alpha (text) pager, you
can do some really neat stuff like send the message "Don't forget lunch
with Tamara!" instead of a code or phone number.

>Just my two sense ;^). I have no affiliation with Essential Software except
>as a satisfied user of Easy Alarms.

I'm an employee of Ex Machina, I've also used Easy Alarms.

-- 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: associating fonts to applications
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:47:44 GMT

Fabrizio Sebastiani (fabrizio@iei.pi.cnr.it) wrote:
: Apologies in advance if this is a FAQ, but I haven't been able to sort
: this problem out.
: 
: Does System 7 provide a way to associate a given set of fonts to a given
: application, so that these fonts will be loaded into RAM just when this
: particular application is opened (and not at system boot), and unloaded
: from RAM when the application is closed?  I think that with System 6
: there was a way of doing this (although I would not know which).
: 
: The reason why I am asking is that I have the (space-consuming) Computer
: Modern fonts (screen fonts and printer outline fonts, in Adobe PostScript
: Type 1 form), that I definitely need when using the Textures package, and
: that I definitely do not need with any other application.  BTW: Textures
: requires Adobe Type Manager.
: 
: Thanks a lot to anyone who will provide information.

I don't get it ... why would you like to do this? Storing the font inside
the application instead of in the system (or font folder in 7.1) won't save
you any disk space. It would save some RAM when you're not running this
particular application, but a font usually take about 20-50 bytes from the
RAM when it's not being used so it wouldn't be worth it.

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dchao@en.ecn.purdue.edu (David H Chao)
Subject: FOR SALE - Macintosh software
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:52:59 GMT


I have the following Mac software for sale:

MacWrite II     $40
MacDraw II      $40
Virex           $15
Pyro!           $10

All include original disks and docs and are in great shape.  The prices DO NOT
include shipping... but that should only be $1-3 depending on where you live
and what you want.  Please e-mail responses to:

dchao@en.ecn.purdue.edu

Thanks. 


David

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kohler@fenris.com (Kurt Kohler)
Subject: Morph 1.1
Organization: Fenris Information Exchange, Corvallis, Ore.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:58:37 GMT

  I thought that in fairness to Gryphon Software I should follow up on my
recent post regarding a bug in Morph 1.0.
  Monday I got (unsolicited!) a diskette in the mail containing version 1.1
of Morph. It fixed the problem I was having and has some nice new features.
  So if you haven't sent in your registration card it might be a good idea
to do so!

  If anyone's interested, the problem didn't have to do directly with the
version of QuickTime, but the number of compression methods. If a file was
created on one machine and then used on another with a different number of
compressors, Morph would crash. That is apparently what was happening to
me because of the new "Compact Video" method in QT 1.5.

  Kurt Kohler

-- 

     Kurt Kohler

     Asset Control Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman)
Subject: Re: Re: Dollars and Sense Upgrade???
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:21:13 GMT

In article <33489@adm.brl.mil>, lapoint@adm.brl.mil (Claude Lapointe) writes:
> 
> For a long time,I've been successfully and happily running version
> 4.1C under OS 6.0.x (I think x is 7 or 8), with quite a large and
> active set of accounts and thinking about 5.0. The only restraints
> I've imposed upon myself are to make entries only from within asset
> or liability accounts, and never to cite the same account more than
> once in a single transaction.
> 
> 
>    2 - What are the advantages of switching from 4.1C
>        to 5.0?
> 
I was intouch with the customer service people back when Monogram still had it
and the upgrade from 4.1c to 5.0 was being developed. From what I understand,
here are a few of the significant changes:

- The database was totally replaced. This suposedly has removed all the
database problems that existed includeing the issue of not being able to
disperse a transaction twice into the same account (a feature that I can really
use!).

- Some of the interface has had some icon oriented presets added (user
definable) to allow some operations to be speeded up (anyone out there using
5.0 care to comment?

If 5.0 is indeed limited to the "high water mark" I am willing to upgrade. I
too have been sitting on 4.1c and working around its bugs for the last (nearly)
3 years. having a relatively stabalized database would be very nice (right now
I use a rotating backup scheme that I invoke after EVERY session do to the
surprise nature of the 4.1c's database :-(




-- 
Jeff Wiseman:	....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM
From: stu1d46@bmerh255.bnr.ca (Erik P. Trounce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: THINK C
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:44:45 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Nov10.055750.12206@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> wgns@troi.cc.rochester.edu (C. Wiggins) writes:
>Can someone tell me which version of THINK C is system 7 compatible?
>
>Is version 4.0 compatible with Sys7?

I believe version 5.0 is the first THINK C that is system 7 compatible.
I tried 4.X and it crashed pretty regularly when using the debugger.
v5.0 is fine.

BTW: if you get v5.0 stay away from 5.0.3 until they fix the bug in the
     optimizer.

Erik.
stu1d46@bnr.ca
'BNR doesn't even know I exist, so how could my views represent theirs?'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Organisers/Calenders
X-Xxdate: Fri, 6 Nov 92 05: 27:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:31:03 GMT

In article <Bx9EEn.D4K@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Stephen Marshall,
marshall@kauri.vuw.ac.nz writes:
>Hi, I have been asked to recommend organiser/calender software to
>colleagues here at the university.

I recently looked into this for my PowerBook.  Of all the PD,
shareware and commercial (demo versions) I found my personal favourite
was Right on Time.  The author (John Covele) gives excellent support
via Email.  It's lean and mean and does just what I want.  A demo is
available on an info-mac mirror near you. Give it a try.

Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia
  -- Who feels that, seeing as he's persecute John Covele so much
     over the past few weeks, should give something back by way
     of advertising.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps