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From: justin@galaxia.network23.com (Justin Brierley)
Subject: Re: Listen because its good music!!
Organization: Dave's Very Own Personal System
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:20:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.212928.11135@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> DCAULDER@chem.chem.scarolina.edu writes:
>Does it really make a difference whether Phish becomes popular or
>not??  If they do, does that mean some people who liked Phish in the
>first place WON'T like them anymore??  What's the deal???  I mean,
>really, do we choose the music that we listen to because they're in
>that so-called ALTERNATIVE genre or do we choose it because it's
>great music??  I never could understand how some people refuse to
>listen to bands they once "loved" just because more MAINSTREAM
>people listen to them.  To me it sounds like some people choose music
>because it's the COOL thing to listen to and NOT because it's QUALITY
>music.

I couldn't agree with you more! This sort of "it's cool to be different"
attitude is what I like to call "Fitting the Inividual Mold." (I'll pause a
moment while you ponder that oxymoronic statement.) As for Phish becoming
popular, THEY DESERVE RECOGNITION!!! I think that they have too much
integrity (sp?) to sell out (change their music to get more fans, by my
definition) so I say "Spread the Phish!"

              Justin Brierley

P.S. Remember what my momma always says "Phish is brain food!"
From: TOUTKOUS@vx.cis.umn.edu (Robert K. Toutkoushian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: secret messages
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:47:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov18.154714.27573
Reply-To: TOUTKOUS@vx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: The Internet

Hey Now!

	At the show @1st Avenue here in Minneapolis on 4/29/92, Trey
explained in detail the various "secret messages" that they were using 
during Spring tour. He taught all of us the "Bart Simpson" message, the
"Circus" message, and the "To Everything Turn, Turn" message. Guess
he figured us bumpkins here in the Midwest needed some explanations :-).
Keep your day job...taboot, taboot!

Rob Toutkoushian
University of Minnesota
INTERNET: toutkous@vx.cis.umn.edu
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: A new Phish phan recommends some albums
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:03:02 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED


	I got into a music conversation with a stranger on an airplane, and
he recommended this "Phish" band that I'd never heard of.  So I picked up
A PICTURE OF NECTAR and was blown away -- this is terrific stuff!!!  I really
hate "pop" music and was happy to discover that, indeed, there are still
bands like Phish out there making excellent music.

	I then bought LAWN BOY and didn't like it as much on first listening,
but now I like it a lot; I'm planning on buying JUNTA soon.

	In case any of you fans are looking for some additional interesting
music, here are some comments on bands that Phish reminds me of.  First of
all, there are Frank Zappa's albums APOSTROPHE, OVERNIGHT SENSATION, and ONE
SIZE FITS ALL.  These all feature excellent musicianship and hysterical
lyrics.  Although Phish's lyrics have a similar feel, IMHO Zappa is more of
a storyteller, while Phish uses more non-sequiturs.  (Or maybe I just don't
understand Phish's stories. :-))

	Next, there is The (Dixie) Dregs.  This 5-piece instrumental band,
consisting of outstanding, best-in-the-world class performers, plays
incredible instrumentals in diverse styles.  Phish reminds me of The Dregs
because of both bands' diversity, and the sense that they are having fun
with their music.  They differ from Phish in that the Dregs are much better
instrumentalists, technically speaking.  (The member of Phish are also very
talented, but The Dregs are truly "musicians' musicians.")  Every Dregs
album is excellent -- there are no bad ones.  I recommend starting with
WHAT IF.

	Finally, there is Man Jumping's WORLD SERVICE.  This album is now
out of print (JEM label), but it can occasionally be found in cutout bins.
Man Jumping plays pop-influenced instrumentals with very sophisticated
orchestration, mixing electronic and acoustic instruments in several
different styles.  They don't sound like Phish, really, but I will say
this:  I wish that all popular music were as intelligently crafted as that
of Phish and Man Jumping.

	Check 'em out!  Maybe these bands will make you as happy as
Phish has made me, thanks to a chance encounter in an airplane.

                                                        Dan

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From: jj6707@meibm7.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRGH!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:59:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxxp7n.7CB
Organization: CCSO College of Engineering Workstations

In article <1992Nov17.033539.15803@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Bower John R <jbower@venus> writes:
|> I don't have any comments about the content of the post, but it is posts like
|> this one that have convinced me to form the Phish.net Lonely "F" Fan Club.
|> I just want to remind everybody that "F" IS STILL THE SIXTH LETTER OF THE 
|> ALPHABET.  Worse than that, I'm sure that "f"'s around the world are feeling
|> the pain neglect from the discriminatory treat they are getting here on the
|> .net.  Let's all just try to use "f"'s a little more again.  I'm not saying
|> that we shouldn't slip in an occasional "Howdy Pholks", but let's try to
|> control our urge to be cute with our spelling practices and remember to use
|> all 26 letters.  I guess this is just a personal pet peeve, but does anyone
|> else find this practice annoying?

Hey--  Phuck Ophph!!!
From: eau2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EDWARD ANTHONY UFTRING)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: HELP I'M NEW
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:07:18 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Howdy,
    Sorry folks for taking up space but I'm really confused about the net.  I
would like to have the lyric list and the digest but don't know how to do any
of it.  Someone please lend a fin to a fellow Phishhead.

    Thanks and sorry again,

                :
    Phishy      :/.~ \/|
    Ed Uftring   \__/ \|
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: berkman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (NEIL C BERKMAN)
Subject: Dude of Life
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:16:38 GMT

Has anybody heard any more about the album Phish recorded backing
the Dude of Life?  I just got a tape with a song of his called
something like "The Trials And Tribulations Of The Swiss Miss Girl"
(about the adventures of said girl, Cap'n Crunch, and assorted other
product symbols) which sounds as if it was recorded in a studio,
so I assume it is part of this album.  Anyone know any more about it?

Neil
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: phisher@aol.com
Subject: Hello/Trading/Tour
Reply-To: phisher@aol.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:25:27 GMT

Greetings Phellow Phish Phriends,
I've been on the net for a week or two now.  I think its phinally time that I
write a letter.

First of all:
I am VERY interested in trading.  I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR A BOOT OF THE OTHER
NIGHTS SHOW IN ALBANY!!  WELL, ALMOST ANYTHING.  I DON'T THINK THAT I'D HANG
MYSELF BY MY NIPPLES, BUT BESIDES THAT, I THINK I'D DO ALMOST ANYTHING.  I
would also like the first set of the Syracuse Armory from May 9, 1992.  Sorry
if this is what is commonly called a tape grovel.  The tapes I have are all
pretty cool and I would love to trade them for any and all Phish.  E-Mail me.
 You can contact me on America On-Line.  My name is "Phisher"

Next:  I have just returned from the St. Mike and Albany shows.  They were so
sweet!  Big Ball Jam kicked as!

Hope to hear from some people who want to trade.

Passing through the corridor I came upon an aging night, who leaned against
the wall in NARLY armor.

-Phisher  
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: SCM2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: correction
Reply-To: SCM2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:26:48 GMT

Salutations.  I seem to be screwing up left and right in my messages.
To whom it may concern, I am looking for 3/6-7/92 at the Portsmouth Music
Hall, not 3/5-6/92.  Again, if anyone has nice, low gen boards or audience 
tapes of these shows, LET ME KNOW!!!  I've gotten one reply that looks
pretty good, but those of you with soundboards, MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN!!!
(to me anyway)  Enough for now.

			-Cale  scm2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu

P.S. I'm also looking for 4/92 Augora Theater (Cleveland, OH) and 5/92
Orpheum Theater (Boston, MA).  The same plea applies.  Adios.
From: shell@eeyore.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ!!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:30:54 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: eeyore.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov19.005947.26389@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Jonah.David.Seiger@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
>----->  When I go away for Thanksgiving next week, it would be very nice
>        if I could suspend my reception (is that the way you say that?)
>        of the digest for those five days so my message system is not
>        overloaded with them.   If so, how do I (or any one else who is
>        interested) do that... Is it better to just "drop out" and then
>        "re-subscribe"? 

Actually, the answer is quite simple:  what you need to do is send a message to
phish-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu

Unfortunately, there is simply too much going on for phish-request to be able
to process requests such as, "Sign me off now and add me back on in a week".
We need one message for your suspension, and another, when you return, for
your re-activation.  We can't accept requests for anything other than immediate
action (a message saying "take me off in three days" won't do).  Thank you for
your cooperation!

Also, please note -- if you're on the digest list, please try to keep your
local mail spool empty.  As traffic increases, we are getting more and more
bounce messages of digests that can't be delivered because the recipients 
have exceeded their disk quotas.  This is a BAD THING (tm).  If enough 
college email postmasters are caused significant trouble by this, it could
conceivably have negative repercussions on the future of the Phish.Net.
Also, all of these bounced digests end up in *my* mail spool -- talk about
exceeding your disk quota!  I'd like to keep my account at berkeley, 
please ;-).  Thank you for your continued cooperation!

A final note/idea:  Is there anyone out there who would be willing to 
collect and compile the reams of information appearing on the net these
days concerning the venues in various towns and the accompanying maps
and gathering-place suggestions?  I think it would be great to maintain
files of this stuff for net usage, so that the next time Phish plays
in these cities/venues, we don't need to repeat the process that we're
going through now -- instead, you could just request the files on the
venues you'll be visiting from phish-archives (for example), and away
you go!  So, where's our volunteer venue-info-coordinator?? :-){

see y'all soon!
Shelly

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu>
Subject: HAPPY WITH GLEEEEEE! :-) !
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:15:35 GMT

HELLO LIZARDS!,

              I want to send this to you all,
              Cause very soon I'll be having a ball!
              I liked to announce, full of glee
              That I got Denison tickets quite easily,
              And it actually wasn't phriendly of me
              To whine about it constantly. :-(
              (Sorry, about the football thing too.)
              So with that said I will depart
              And I am pretty sure I've done my part
              To insure for all aside,
              Where there is nothing wrong with being
              A Glide! (glad, glad, GLAD!)

See everyone at Denny-Doo and then at Insomnia before Newport!
                                   
                                                                Dre :^>

                                                "Yippie!, you can't
                                                 see me, but I can
                                                 you..."
                                                            -Floyd


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: BARAT.TODD.DICKMAN@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Ann Arbor + New Years
Reply-To: BARAT.TODD.DICKMAN@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:56:03 GMT

Phellow Phish Phreaks who need Ann Arbor tix, (I know I'm way in advance, 
but I'm a planner)  There is a very strong possibility that I will have
 2 extra for Ann Arbor.  If you would like them send me E-mail and I will
try to help out.
				In addition, (and again I know its really, really early)  Anyone who knows of a phriendly place to stay in Boston for New Years, please let me know.
					And phinally, any other Ann Arbor Phish fans who want to hang out,
(aside from Jonah, Brian F. or Niall) send me a line so we can get together.
Also, you folks up at Cornell, if you know a fella by the name of Adam Gensler
Tell him Barat says "hi" and that I would love to chat with him.
    Otherwise, TAKE CARE OF 'EM. 
             PEACE ALL, BARAT
Xref: sparky rec.music.phish:4942 rec.music.gdead:20497
From: mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish,rec.music.gdead
Subject: Aquarium Rescue Unit Tape Tree
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:06:28 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York



	The ARU tape tree is here !  Thanks to the generosity of Richard Yaker,
I have two great tapes to put into this tree.  Here are the shows :

The Catalyst, Santa Cruz, CA 05/20/92
No Reason To Complain
Time Is Free
Shoeless Joe
Salty Dog
Time Flak
Pay Day
Sitting On Top Of The World
Working On The Building
Back Home In Tennesee
Compared To What
Ain't Nothing You Can Do
Davy Crockett

The Catalyst, Snata Cruz, CA  11/05/92
Yield Not To Temptation
Fixing To Die
Shoeless Joe
Compared To What
Time Flak
No Reason To Complain
Working On The Building
Basically Frightened
??????????
??????????
Space Is The Place
Elevator To The Moon

I'm listening to the first tape now and it is great !

OK, here's how the tree will work.  There is a trunk (me), several branches,
and hopefully lots of leaves.  Branches need to be able to make up to 5 copies
of the tapes. Branches should also have good enough equipment so that the tapes are not just being dubbed.  It would be a shame to loose any sound quality 
because someone couldn't bump the levels up a bit.
The tapes are on two 90min XLII's.  There are only analog copies (sorry DATmen).  Please reply to me with the following info:

NAME :
US MAIL ADDRESS:
EMAIL ADDRESS:
BRANCH OR LEAF :
DOLBY (NONE,B,C):
DO YOU HAVE HORDE BANDS TO TRADE ?:
WILL YOU BE SENDING BLANKS ?:
WILL YOU LOOSE NET ACCESS BECAUSE OF SCHOOL OR SOME OTHER REASON ?:
	IF SO, WHAT ARE THE DATES ?:

that's it.  I will be accepting responses until Nov. 30th.  This is so we can
hopefully get the tree done before Christmas.  So write back soon.  With a 
little luck I could have all the branch tapes ready to be mailed by the time
the tree is ready.  

	Take care..

			Matt

Any questions should also be sent to me at the same address.

Matt Ross
mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

 


-- 
Matt Ross
mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
What ever you do, take care of your shoes.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: Albany set list, more
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:26:38 GMT

I think they played an Elvis song too, but I'm not sure.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: SCM2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: Arrowhead Ranch 7/21/91 and Amy's Farm 8/3/91
Reply-To: SCM2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:22:49 GMT

Does anyone have LOW (<4th) generation soundboards of the Amy's Farm
show and the show at the Arrowhead Ranch on 7/21/91.  I have tapes of
both but am looking for better quality tapes. If anyone has crisp copies,
contact me PLEASE! Thanks.

-Cale Miller scm2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
From: X53N@slumus.bitnet (Mike Bridgett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Phish/Santana Tree???
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:17:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov18.211700.4744
Reply-To: X53N@slumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet

Hey, what happened to the Phish/Santana tree?  I remember signing up
and my message was never bounced, but I never heard a thing.

                                             Anyone?,
                                                mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dalton@spot.Colorado.EDU (lizard man)
Subject: Icarus
Organization: Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics
              University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:01:44 GMT


In the field of Planetary Science, there is a highly respected,
peer-reviewed scientific journal of solar system studies, titled
"Icarus."


I thought some people might appreciate an excerpt which appears on
the first page of each issue, explaining why these scientists (who study
evrything from how stars form, to the climate of Mars, to the rings of 
Saturn) chose Icarus as their title and representative.




           ICARUS: International Journal of Solar System Studies


   "In ancient days two aviators procured to themselves wings. Daedalus
flew safely through the middle air and was duly honoured on his landing.
Icarus soared upwards to the sun till the wax melted which bound his
wings and his flight ended in fiasco....The classical authorities tell
us, of course, that he was only `doing a stunt'; but I prefer to think
of him as the man who brought to light a serious constructional defect
in the flying-machines of his day.

    "So, too, in science. Cautious Daedalus will apply his theories
where he feels confident they will safely go; but by his excess of
caution their hidden weaknesses remain undiscovered. Icarus will strain
his theories to the breaking-point till the weak joints gape. For the
mere adventure? Perhaps partly, that is human nature. But if he is
destined not yet to reach the Sun and solve finally the riddle of its
construction, we may at least hope to learn from his journey some hints
to build a better machine."


                                                  From _Stars and Atoms_
                                                  by Sir Arthur Eddington
                                                  Oxford Univ. Press 1927




-- 
---
"a woman wants an abortion not as she might want a Porsche or an ice
cream, but rather more as a trapped animal wants to gnaw off its leg."
--Frederica
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: kell0040@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: where do I get this 'chords file'?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:30:43 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Mitch Hendrickson <mitchh@hops.gvg.tek.com>
Subject: re: Arrowhead mystery filler
Reply-To: mitchh@hops.gvg.tek.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:34:37 GMT


Mike Jenkins said:

Mike> Has anyone identified the selections at the end on side II, tape
Mike> I of the 7/21/91 arrowhead ranch tapes?  It is simply labled
Mike> "filler: mystery phish (I dunno)".  the first song is a non-horn
Mike> version of Cavern, the second song I can't identify
Mike> (vocals:"Harry, Harry, where do you go when the lights go out")
Mike> and a third sond which I also do not know.

Since I'm the one who wrote the i dunno, here's a shot:

The only thing in the (old) HPB where Cavern is followed by Harry is
the second set of 4/28/90, at the Strand Theater in Boston.  The
second set starts out

II:  Cavern, Harry Hood, Caravan, I Didn't Know, Reba, My Sweet One

The filler was on the 7/21 DAT I got, and I just let it run out on the
analogs.  Some got Cavern, harry, and ??? listed since I couldn't
think of the name of the third song, but then I got tired of writing
??? and just left it un-setlisted....

-Mitch

P.S. Miscellaneous topics:

Soundboard: it's mixed analog and that's what's fed to the DAT.  The
A->D happend in the DAT deck itself.

West Coast: April, last I heard.

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Phish and MJQ
Reply-To: brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:15:45 GMT

 
  The Modern Jazz Quartet is currently on their
40th anniversary tour, and it made a stop last
Friday night at Hill Auditorium here in Ann Arbor.
Here is a clip from the review of the show, which 
appeared in the Michigan Daily(article written by
Andrew J. Cahn):
 
 "The show was equally as delightful to the 'nostalgists'
in the crowd and to the youngsters like myself. As a trade
off, the older members of the audience should attend next
month's presentation of rock's version of MJQ, Phish. Their
breakdown of traditions through their use of classical
elements and humor have had the same effect on rock music
as MJQ had on jazz forty years ago. The true test will be
if they can maintain their idiosyncrasies for as long as
MJQ has."
 
I like this kind of comparison! 
 
                          -Brian
 
brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ELEE@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Subject: bandwidth!!!
Reply-To: ELEE@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:58:29 GMT

Hi.
	For some of us who are on the digestifier, please
	BE CONSERVATIVE WITH BANDWIDTH!!!
	Thank you very much!
		-EdLee, with no ten-line sig file.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: HARRY ALOYSIUS MCQUILLEN <hamcquil@unix.amherst.edu>
Subject: Albany and Taping
Reply-To: hamcquil@unix.amherst.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:23:28 GMT


Ok, just got back from two hot shows, Albany and Burlington,
in reverse order of course.St. Mikes was great with the long sets and new
songs, though the venue sucked acoustically and in atmosphere. (Though I enjoyed
reading about the sports heroes of St. Mkies college in years past.

Albany was great too. Anyone notice how when Trey said "Happy birthday
Curtis before the dude of life came out, he played the opening notes to curtis
loew? I about flipped when he did that, but then when the Dude came out
I about flipped too, so that's life.

Problem is, I fucked my tape lengths and put in a 120 for the first set, leaving
only a 90 for the second set. (meant to bring 2 120's). So my good times
Bad times cuts halfway through. So, if anyone else taped that show and has
a GTBT, preferably on DAT, I'd be forever thankful, and can trade St Mikes,
Albany, or Cap Theat tapes, or if you want an upgrade of your albany. Other
than the lack of length, mine came out perfect.

Oh, and after Albany, Trey was hangin' out by the backstage entrance
with a glass of red wine. His hair looks a little longer, but he was talking to
some woman about the Europe shows so I didn't want to bother him.

See ya all at Portchester!

Harry
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: selegue@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Thomas Selegue)
Subject: Tickets?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:48:13 GMT


     I never thought it would come to this. Here goes:

      Can anybody set me up with some tickets for the Saturday Chicago
      Show? I was suprised to find that it is sold out. I would really
      like to see this show and introduce some friends to live Phish!
      Thanks for any help.

                                   Take care of your shoes,

                                           Tom
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Davis, Matthew" <DAVISM@dickinson.edu>
Subject: albany gathering
Reply-To: DAVISM@dickinson.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:09:56 GMT

I haven't heard anything since my last post so the gathering is at The 
Halfmoon Cafe on Madison Ave. I won't be able to be there so tell everyone I 
say Hi. Later, and have a great time at the show!!
                               -Matt