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From: dperry@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Dave Perry)
Subject: Strange Behaviour with WPS
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:43:22 GMT

Hello,

Recently, I had the wonderful opportunity to upgrade my pc to 10Meg, by
adding a few more 1 meg simms.  The bios reported the correct ammount
of memory, and 97-98% of the times I've had my PC on, things seem perfect.
But, after trying to make a boot disk with the makeboot script.  The
floppy reboot crashed with some "internal error".  I figured the script
just messed something up, but when wps came back up after a hard reset,
I got "Workplace out of memory" errors in a dialog box, and couldn't 
open anything up.  Has anyone had any similar experiences?  The new
simms are 70ns while I have 4 more 1 meg 80ns and 8 256k 80ns simms
in the other 12 slots.  Any advice would be helpful!

-Dave
-- 
"...and everything under the sun." |  OS/2 2.0  | dave@lil-stat.tamu.edu
                         -floyd    |~-~-~-~-~-~-| dperry@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: Redbooks on software.watson.ibm.com
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:02:25 GMT

Lots of people have sent me mail asking the same questions so here
are the answers:

What is a .INF file?

It's a format used by OS/2 1.3 and 2.0's VIEW program.  I know of no
way to read them if you don't have OS/2 1.3 or OS/2 2.0.


Is there an ASCII version?

Not that I know of.


What is the IP address for software.watson.ibm.com?

129.34.139.5.
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng)
Subject: Re: Redbooks on watson.  Bookmaster?
Organization: National University of Singapore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:13:38 GMT

ujabanco@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (John Abanco) writes:
: Isn't there a way so you can print on the laser sometime at night or
: when the office closes? If there was something like a TSR that would
: print the files when nobody is around, that would solve your problem.
: Is there something like RECORDER for OS/2 that you could use?

Just write a very short rexx script that uses SysSleep.

jin meng
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Screen Editor over telnet connection?
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:32:47 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Sep26.192742.10443@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> bobm@hpcvxbm.cv.hp.com (Bob May) writes:
>I'm running 2.0 with the IBM TCP/IP package, set up for remote login.
>I can log in from another machine just great. However, I can't get any
>editor to work over the connection? E just pops up a window on my PM 
>screen, ME 3.11 and JOVE both give no screen, but they do listen 
>to the keyboard. Is there a screen-oriented editor out there that will
>work over a telnet session? Or better yet, is there a way I can run my 
>existing ones?

Try emacs (the full version), TED, TinyEd, or one of the other full
screen text mode editors available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Redbooks on software.watson.ibm.com
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:04:43 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <ANDRZEJ.92Sep30212652@bcars268.bnr.ca> andrzej@bnr.ca (Andrzej Bieszczad) writes:
>I would prefer a postscript or ascii versions. Do they exist? Could they
>be put in the same directory on hobbes?

Generating a Postscript version of any .INF file is easy enough --
just print to a file through a Postscript printer driver.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
From: rovero@attu.oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Traps at 0160: fff645yy: bug or harware error?
Keywords: trap
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:08:56 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School,Monterey CA

In article <1992Sep29.191632.29693@bilver.uucp> dandrews@bilver.uucp (Dave Andrews) writes:
>In article <310@zam103.zam.kfa-juelich.de> kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl) writes:
>><...+....1....+....2....+....3....+....4....+....5....+....6....+....7.>
>>Recently some postings (including by me) reported OS/2 crashes
>>having in common occurring on 486 machines and:
>>
>>   TRAP 000x ...
>>   ...
>>   ... ##0160:fff645yy - 000d:a5yy
>>   60000, 9084
>>

I experienced some of these errors today after upgrading from 4 Meg RAM
to 8 Meg.  I assumed it was from some sort of memory incompatibility
between the two types of 1M SIMMs.  A number of DOS programs began
failing with exactly the same error numbers.


-- 
Josh Rovero   (rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil) | or Internet 5346p@cc.nps.navy.mil 
Department of Oceanography, Code OC/Rv |      Bitnet 5346p@NAVPGS 
Naval Postgraduate School              |              
Monterey, CA  93943   (408) 646-2084   |
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Doing Multiple Simultaneous Floppy Copies
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:04:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcom.rdippold.718337090
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris) writes:
>SCSI-I won't even do it simultaneously.  I'm looking at a SCSI 50 pin diagram
>right now.  There are only 8 data lines.  Each one for one bit of information.
>This means that only one drive can talk at a time.  They all multiplex the
>data bus.

Not necessarily - Okay, it's not possible to send data to both of them
at exactly the same time but with floppies it shouldn't be necessary.
As long as you can have both of them powered up and writing at once
you can send data to them fast enough to make it appear simultaneous.
A SCSI drive should handle a block write command, so you can send 512
bytes of data to the drive almost instantaneously and then send
another 512 bytes to the other drive.  Or be reading from one and
writing to another simultaneously - the time required to do the
write/read should be almost nothing compared to the data transfer
time.  Maybe not 200% the speed of using only one floppy, but say
%195% or so.

-- 
I can't be overdrawn - I still have checks left
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: someday@milton.u.washington.edu (Scott Johnson)
Subject: Re: Running BASICA crashes OS/2
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:30:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.175423.20844@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <2OCT199216224637@utarlg.uta.edu> b259phl@utarlg.uta.edu (PHILIP LIPPEL) writes:
>>>You were warned.  :-)
>>>Seriously, delete both BASIC.COM and BASICA.COM.  Run QBASIC instead.
[stuff]
>>QBASIC is. At any rate, it is clearly a bug that running BASICA bombs OS/2
>>when run, as opposed to just coming up with a nice little error message-- evenb
>>IBM DOS-5 had the courtesy to say "This program requires BASIC in ROM", or
>>some such thing, and terminate gracefully. 
>>Anyway, for those of you who want to run  BASICA on your machine, here's how:
>>open the settings window for the BASICA object, and change the first entry on
>> the program pg (prog path and file name) to point to gwbasic.exe, or basica.
>>exe, or whatever your particular version of basic is called. Then all will be
>>well! But do try QBASIC, also. By the way, unlike QuickBasic, QBASIC can read
>>your tokenized BASICA files directly.
>
>Oh, I agree, it should be fixed.  So does IBM -- it is slated for
>inclusion in the forthcoming CSD.
>
[stuff]
>-- 
>Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from

Stupid Human Tricks #173:
-------------------------
After reading Tim's comment above about it being fixed in the 
Service Pack, and since I'm running the beta here, I thought I'd
just do a quick test to make sure it got fixed....

Guess what folks...it's not fixed in the beta!  Don't try this at home!

And who is this PaulDev guy I just met, anyway?  :)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: ibm1flpy.add mucks up
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 10:02:59 GMT

I tried to install this replacement driver on my system the other
day and afterwards my floppy drives were no longer recognised.
Is this a confirmed bug or did I miss something?

Erik

-- 
Erik van Linstee   |   Delft University of Technology   |   I'll be back ... 
----
   We are god, 'cause only we can create the idea of his existence
   in our holy brains...  (Yello)
From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Install problem (can't!) on new machine
Keywords: install problems crash
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:08:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <burleigh.718094262@ogre> burleigh@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Frank Burleigh) writes:
>
>I'm having a problem installing OS2 on my new system--
>namely, I can't.
>
>Here's the chronology: reboot with install disk; see IBM
>welcome display; insert disk 1 and hit <enter>; OS2 logo
>flashes; screen clears; OS2 logo w/ copyright appears;
>copyright replaced by the "Loading, please wait" message
>below the logo; screen clears and "Loading, please wait"
>appears at the screen's top.
>
>Floppy drive light goes off and there is no further
>activity.  I tried 5 times, waiting as long as one hour for
>activity.
>
>The system comes from Insight (brrrr):
>- 486DX/50, 256k cache, 16MB (4 4x9 70ns 9 chip SIMMs)
>- system board is unidentified but it uses a Unichip chipset
>- AMI BIOS (12/91)
>- Teac 2.88mb floppy

Bingo!  I don't think the 12/91 AMI BIOS supports 2.88mb floppies.
I read somewhere that AMI has an upgraded BIOS dated 6/92 that does
support 2.88 floppies, however.  I don't know if there exist 2.88mb
floppy controllers which can support 2.88mb drives without an upgraded
BIOS.  My advice is for you to contact your mother board manufacturer
to find out if you need a BIOS upgrade to get 2.88 drives working
properly.
-- 
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DSC Communications Corporation   Addr: MS 152, 1000 Coit Rd, Plano, TX 75075
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From: brackin5483@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: trap errs & diff simm speeds
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:50:02 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

    I have a slight and somewhat annonying problem with os/2.  It
crashes with a varity of trap errors, usually not the same one
twice under the same app.  IBM support told me my problem might
have been the lack of memory (only 4mg and my computer would not
realease 384k of it, even with shadowing off) I told IBM that I
would call back after I increased my memory to 8mg if the problem
was still there, it was.  
     I was going to contact IBM, but after reading on the net that
different speeds of memory mixed could be causing the problem. 
Before the upping my memory to 8mg I had 2mg 70ns and 2mg 80ns. Now
I have 6mg 70ns and 2mg 80ns.  Could the 2mg of 80ns simms be
causing the variety of trap errors?
     Or could the problem be a heat related one? As I usually can
run the computer for about 4-5 hours before it crashes, but am able
to do a cold reboot right away the it will usually work for another
4-5 hours (hardly time to cool what ever became hot).
     
     Can someone tell me why having to slower simms mixed with
faster simms would cause os/2  to crash?  I have a long going
debate with a friend who insist that if the simms are within the
specs of the manual (mine says use at least 80ns simms, but nothing
about not mixing speeds) then the machine should run fine and that
it is my os that is buggy (he does not run os/2, but runs a amiga
500).

Please email me any help you can as I believe this topic as already
been delt with.
Thank you also for any help you can give.
Chris Brackin
brackin5483@iscsvax.uni.edu
From: fhart@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Fred Hart)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: "Create Another" menu item
Keywords: Settings, WPS, Create Another
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:42:29 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

Whenever I go into the "Create Another" menu item for a Folder, I have
not one but three Folder options. The only one that seems to do anything
when I select it is the last one. I don't think I had the extra "Folder"
options when I first installed OS/2. Anyone have any ideas where the
extra "Folder" options came from or how to get rid of them?

-- Fred Hart (Fred.Hart@AtlantaGA.ncr.com)
From: ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Daniel Dulay)
Subject: 32bit GRE blues
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:25:25 GMT


Has anybody tried to display a directory w/ tons of icons?  I thought
that the lockup this caused under GA would be fixed in the 32bit
GRE.  Opening up a directory w/ >250 icons locked up my system just
as before (although since the icons appeared a lot faster my machine
locked up faster . . .).  I only have 8MB so could this be the problem?

Also does anyone know how the WPS has been optimized?  It seems a good
deal faster, but my swapfile now grows to double what it was under GA
when I use the WPS for file management.  This had better be due to
debugging code or IBM has a long way to go before OS/2 will run in
4MB . . .

Daniel Dulay
ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: GG.MPD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michael Durket)
Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra white screen
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:38:57 GMT

I am helping someone to install OS/2 2.0 on a clone with an
ATI Graphics Ultra board. We are experiencing the well-known
"white screen on bootup after install" problem.

I replaced the DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS]VVGA.SYS statement with
DEVICE=C:\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS as has been mentioned before. When this
failed to work, ATI was called. They indicated that there may be
some problem with the new ROMs (the board is of recent manufacture)
and shipped us out the previous ROM version. The old ROMs didn't
work either.

Any suggestions as to the problem? The ATI card's diagnostics seem
to indicate that the board itself is ok, but we can return it if
need be.

Any assistance would be appreciated. Please respond by email so
I can be sure to get it. Our newsfeed is sometimes flakey.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM Driver and OS/2
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:00:40 GMT

The newsgroup comp.os.os2 no longer exists -- please ask your system
administrator to remove it.

In article <1992Sep30.165046.8851@a.cs.okstate.edu> teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague) writes:
>I am currently running os/2 2.0 on a 486/33 with an Ultrastor ESDI
>controller and drive(s). Can anyone tell me what my options are
>for getting a CD-ROM drive which will work directly with OS/2?
>For example, can I add a simple SCSI interface for the CD-ROM drive
>without having to upgrade to SCSI hard drives (can an ESDI and SCSI
>controller co-exist with os/2)?

Yes, so long as both devices are recognized by non-IBMINT13.I13
drivers.  In the case of the ESDI, it should be driven using
IBM1S506.ADD.  In the case of SCSI, either Adaptec or Future Domain
will work.

So, in other words, I suggest adding an Adaptec or Future Domain SCSI
adapter to your system (and configuring it properly).

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Synch problems/Clipboard
Reply-To: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:37:44 GMT

1) I have a problem when toggling (ALT-ESC) from PSPSICE, a vga/text program,
and PM. The Desktop works fine, but after returning to PSPICE, the session
falls out of synch. This also occurs when I toggle to WIN-OS/2 sessions.
Advice? 
(I am using a Western Digital SVGA card. SVGA ON is set; SVGA status returns
the correct value and I am already using the Western Digital video card
BVSVGA fix).

2) How do I get all of the clipboards to work? When I run the clipboard
viewer, the program loads and vanishes...but it's still in the windows 
list. I can't set it public. Plus, I can't get the one to work for 
WIN-OS/2 either.

PLEASE HELP!!! 
Hundreds of pounds of thanks,
Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: Using OS/2 without a Mouse
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:24:38 GMT

garyng@gnct.com (garyng) writes:

>How do you shutdown the system ? This is the only thing(so far) which I don't
>know how to do without a mouse.

The shutdown option is on the desktop object.  To get to it, use ALT+TAB to 
cycle focus to the desktop window.  (one of the desktop objects will be 
selected)  Press SPACE to deselect the object.  This moves the focus to
the desktop window.  Then press SHIF+F10 to bring up the desktop popup.

If you want an easier "more logical way" to get to the desktop menu, you could
try to put a shadow of the desktop object on your desktop.  Open your Drives
object, then your OS/2 drive.  Select the Desktop object and then "Create
Shadow" from the popup menu.  Put it on the desktop.  You will then have
a little desk on your desktop that is constantly running.  Simply select
shutdown off of the desktop object popup menu.

I don't know if this procedure will work because I can't try it out right now
but in theory, it should.

______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: someday@milton.u.washington.edu (Scott Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: winos2 3.1 not installed...why not?
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:16:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct2.161657.23053
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Oct2.131051.16864@oakhill.sps.mot.com> millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com writes:
>Granted, i haven't researched the following question thoroughly, but
>haven't been able to find out the answer yet.
>
>What are the win0s2 3.1 disks for in the beta???? I guess they're 
>for winos2 3.1, but I wasn't asked for them when I thought I 
>installed 3.1 (I chose to on the selectable install)
>
>So my question is...how do you install winos2 3.1??? Or, what did
>I do wrong?
>
>Thanks,
>--Mike 

There's a README on the first WIN-OS/2 3.1 disk that helps a bit.  There is an
install program on that disk that will install 3.1 onto your system.  For some
reason, tho, it installs into a new directory \WINOS231 instead of into
\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2.  You'll need to fix up your various PATH commands to point
there.  The install also seemed to replace my AUTOEXEC.BAT without asking.

Good luck,
-Scott
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nrt@watson.ibm.com (Nicholas R. Trio)
Subject: Re: Reorg of /pub/os2 on software.watson.ibm.com
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:36:43 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

As to new/changed files, I'd prefer someone responsible in Boca put
out announcements of new stuff on software.watson.ibm.com in
/pub/os2 here (and maybe comp.archives).  I'll bring it up with
the Boca folks when I talk to them.

I'm open in the meantime to other suggestions...I'm not sure how I
would define what a new file is (obviously, when I put it out there
it's new, but is it still new after a day, a week, a month or what).

Nick (nrt@watson.ibm.com)





Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: OS/2 CSD   e-mail disribution
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 20:38:31 GMT

In article <gate.88N3RB1w164w@bhole> root@bhole.UUCP writes:
>I *have* the GA release. How do I get the new BETA?
>Please respond in email & here. 
>
>Mark
>dvss!bhole!root@udel.edu

My mailer doesn't like your address, so I'm posting since it is
general information anyway. Call 1-800-IBM-3040 and request the 32-bit
GRE Beta. *If* the beta program is not full, they will send it to you
on 29 High Density disks for free (even free shipping). IMO, this is a
very cool thing for IBM. 

More of the new IBM showing through: When asked for a company name, I
said I didn't have one and they said "OK, that's no problem." ;-)

BTW - The SPP is due any time. Judging by my own experience with the
beta, I would give them a couple more weeks, even though I want those
promised SVGA drivers bad.

-- 
Steve Lumos - slumos@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel)
Subject: Re: 8514/a and VGA (was: Re: Using Two monitors with OS/2)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:30:42 GMT

In article <1971@acf5.NYU.EDU> checker@acf5.NYU.EDU (checker) writes:
>The difference is, I am most interested in debugging VGA applications,
>not PM, so I want to know if I can run the debugger on the 8514/a while
>the app runs on the VGA.  For example, Watcom's debugger can supposedly
>debug DOS applications from the WPS, so could I do this?

It should be possible to debug fullscreen OS/2 programs (such as ones
writing to the VGA in graphics mode), but I have not tried this. I
doubt that a debugger exists that allows debugging DOS programs from
another session (this would be required in order to debug a DOS app
whith the debugger screen in a PM window).

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bobm@hpcvxbm.cv.hp.com (Bob May)
Subject: Screen Editor over telnet connection?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:27:42 GMT

I'm running 2.0 with the IBM TCP/IP package, set up for remote login.
I can log in from another machine just great. However, I can't get any
editor to work over the connection? E just pops up a window on my PM 
screen, ME 3.11 and JOVE both give no screen, but they do listen 
to the keyboard. Is there a screen-oriented editor out there that will
work over a telnet session? Or better yet, is there a way I can run my 
existing ones?

Bob May
Hewlett-Packard
bobm@cv.hp.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc