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From:         "Carol A. Womack" <cwomack@UCI.EDU>
Subject:      Libraries & Small Business Development Centers (SBDCs)
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         I'm also interested in any replies you receive.  Our campus
         has just been awarded an SBDC grant, and the director is on
         staff at our management school and is someone I've worked
         closely with.  Our library already does provide reference
         service to small businesses in the area, because
         county residents perceive us as their local library.  I am
         working with our SBDC grantee to determine which library
         resources (i.e. cd-roms) she should purchase directly and
         which should be available at the library.  I see this as a
         great opportunity for our library to build a clientele that
         would be willing--at some point--to pay for search services,
         etc.  We're still in the planning stage.  Thanks in advance
         for your help.

         Carol Womack
         Business Librarian
         Univ. of California, Irvine
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We use an item titled "Currency conversion tables; a hundred years
of change" by R.L. Bidwell. The publisher is Rex Collings in London.
Book is dated 1970.  It gives conversions of various currencies to
English pound and US $.

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992, Carl Braun wrote:

> I have a patron looking for the exchange rate between the German Mark and
> the U.S. dollar in the period before World War 1.  I am at a loss for any
> convenient source covering the Teens.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Carl Braun
> Syracuse University Library
> Syracuse, New York
> LIBCFB@SUVM
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:53:00 PST
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From:         EWLADAS@SCU.BITNET
Subject:      dow jones via the Internet

The discussion regarding accessing Dow Jones via the Internet has died
down on this bulletin board over the last few weeks. However, yesterday
the good folks at Dow Jones reminded us that if we don't begin accessing
their service via the Internet as of September 1st then we will be
charged an additional telecommunications charge PER PASSWORD PER MONTH.

Our BIGGEST concern is having automatic log-on at all times to this service
and allowing our patrons to log their sessions. We have a 9600 baud modem
available and will purchase, if necessary, any software that will
successfully fulfill our needs.

I know severla BUSLIB-LIBBER

(ignore previous line)

I know several BUSLIBBERS had varying success with this.

How does the situation stand now?  Anyone having complete or near-complete
success??

Many thanks.

Edward Wladas
Santa Clara University
ewladas@scu.bitnet; ewladas@scuacc.scu.edu
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From:         "Mike Strahan, Computer Reference Svs.,
              Olson Lib." <FAMF@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Libraries & Small Business Development Centers (SBDCs)

NOTE:  Please respond directly to me:  FAMF@NMUMUS.BITNET

---------------------------------

I am interested in whether other business libraries/librarians
work with or provide services to Small Business Development Centers
(SBDCs).

One of the many hats I wear is a business consultant for our local
SBDC.  At a recent meeting, we were told that the Center here in
Marquette is the only one in the state  of Michigan that has a working
arrangement  (read that no-cost) with both a local university library
and public library.  Neither library receives any subsidies from the
SBDC for services provided.  The types of services include assisting
business clients by providing information on the phone or in-person,
performing literature searches (if necessary), helping them utilize
our reference & general collections.  Both libraries also provide
similar assistance to SBDC staff through telephone, fax, & in-person.
The librarians have also presented a library information awareness
workshop to SBDC staff.  However, we do charge for online literature
searches, but not CD-ROM searches.

What I would like to know is:

    Does your library provide any services to a local/regional SBDC ?

If so:

    1.  What kind of arrangement (generally) do you have ?


    2.  What services do you provide ?


    3.  Is your library &/or yourself compensated for these services,
          and how much ?


Also, do other local (public/special/university) libraries provide
  assistance to the nearest SBDC ? (yes/no/do not know)


Thank you for your time and effort.  I have always received
excellent assistance from fellow business librarians on this list.

    ____________________________________________________________
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:02:59 -0400
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From:         Bonnie Crotty Nelson <bonnie@MCNC.ORG>

This is an automatic reply.

I will be at a workshop from August 18 through August 21, 1992.
Please contact another member of the library staff:
             Suzette Bouchard <bouchard>; x1985
             Janet Parker <janet>; x1985
for immediate assistance.

I will try and answer back to you as I return.

Bonnie
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:00:32 EDT
From:         Jeff Harrington <idealord@DORSAI.COM>
Subject:      Bush Suffers Breakdown During Speech - Zapped By Psychic T
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Because the media is portraying Bush's acceptance speech last night
as a rousing success, we feel provoked into telling the true story about
his psychological and emotional collapse onstage last night.  This is not
an attempt to gloat, merely a presentation of the facts - an emotionally
disturbed man, unfit for national office, was psychically induced into
an emotional collapse by IdEAL ORDER Psychic TV.

At least two times last night, George Bush broke down and wept.  The first
was during the telling of a war story.  IdEAL ORDER Psychic TV was attempting
to induce a reflective state during this portion of the speech so that he
might "feel" the reality of his war experience on live TV and break down.
Because the man is under such stress and is suffering serious health
problems to boot, my efforts (luminescent as they were) were entirely
successful.  The second collapse was also during a war story (what happened
to him during WWII?) and was not quite as profound as the first.

The television commentators were noticeably at a loss for words after the
speech.  Because of the interconnectiveness of the media and state in
Amerikkka now, they feel that to tell the truth about his emotional collapse
would be to suffer Dan Rather's fate; a loss of privelege; of access.
I doubt if you will see any mention of his two breakdowns in any media soon.

Jeff Harrington
idealord@dorsai.com
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:47:32 EDT
From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Total Solution.

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This was whispered into my ear. It should help clear the air. Believe it.


Wellbutrin.
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From:         Robert Holder <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject: Re: Reply to Re: robert re: brai
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no, it's never enough until your heart stops beating.

> CEASE THIS WHINING.

yeah yeah yeah.  the rest of it was pretty good writing
though.  sticks to my thick skin.

anyways, I'm going on vacation starting MONDAY, (there's
some ammo for ya) and so you can live it up in the
absence of my presence.  I'll be back after labor day
and I'm sure there'll be plenty of hate mail for me to
rub all over myself by then.  Maybe I'll come back at
night just for that!

Some of the best sex is had by people who hate each
other, and as Charles Manson said, The Universe Is Just
One Big Fuck.

jprovo & rollide: keep broadcasting.  i dig it
even if u don't dig me.  i'd rather be hated than
ignored anyday.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~robert holder~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~ robert@whiplash.er.usgs.gov  st petersburg florida usa ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~VISUALIZE MY DEAD MOTHER~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: majcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Salamander~)
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Date: 14 Aug 92 18:09:19 GMT
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>>>*Sigh*.  I suppose, after all, FNORD-L isn't rilly the proper place
>>>to initiate a discussion, is it?
>>I counter with a hearty
>>yes it is...

	Likewise - discussion is what this list was put here for,
despite all appearances to the contrary...

>>Personal Freedom:
>>  anarchocapitalist politics, free-market economics, cryptography,
>>  privacy, digital cash, electronic communication

>From the intro post, the Extropians seem to want anarchic politics, but not
>an anarchic list.  Do Fnordians think this possible/proper/silly/not-worth-
>thinking-about or what?

	I thought it was really snotty myself, at first.  However, if
you sit for a while and listen to what is being said for a while, it
makes perfect sense within their BS.  Anarchocapitalist/free-marketers
- they're not saying that _every_ mailing list and newsgroup 'shud'
have anarchic policies.  There's a big difference between the various
'flavors' of anarchy - there's the anarcho-capitalists, the anarcho-
socialists, the anarcho-pagans, and, for those who like the taste of
'anarchy classic', there's just plain Anarchists.
	Basically, their views are pretty close to the Libertarians -
it's _their_ list - they own it, the software that runs it, and so on.
Therefore, _they_ and only they get to decide what the list policies
are - if you don't like it, fine.  Leave.  Make your own list.  You're
more than free to do what you want with your own stuff, but don't
expect to tell others how to play with their own toys.  (This
discussion was gone over and over and over, ad nauseam, on the X list
a couple of months ago...if you really want to cause a disturbance,
you're more that free to go over there and ask about it again...:)
	That list was created for the discussion of Extropian ideas
and such - much as this one was created for the discussion of
RAW/Leary, et al...and, from what I've seen over the last year+, I'd
say that their list policies work a lot better than this one's...

Salamander~

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  Marc Majcher@P.O. Box 156          and the wise keep moving on...
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    Voice: (716) 834-1648       many of us still live with our mother?
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Garcia

Unless my leopard memory tricks me, he was sick with lung trouble (cigarettes),
and diabetes, and something else too. Warned he would die if he didn't
treat himself better. Tour canceled, etc. Oh yeah, overweight was the other
thing.

Humble Newman
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Date: 14 Aug 92 18:31:45 GMT
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On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:15:00 -05 Dana Rollins said:
>Cuthbert?
>I thought you were DEAD!

I was, yes.  But since Our Brave Lads face death and worse Out There
every day, I fail to see why I should let a little thing like that
stand in my way.
Getting back into this node was interesting, if not particularly
pleasant to look at (the human brain, consumed, leaves an especially
unattractive grunge on the rim of the plate,) but the process took far
longer than I had thought, which accounts for the pathetic bleating
issued from this source during the weeks required for me to become, er,
fully engorged, let us say.  There was resistance, but resistance, as
always, was futile.  Sky Gods just don't fuck around.
Be that as it may.  I heartily hope that you all have enjoyed your
eighteen-and-a-half minutes of freedom; the sheriff's back from Waco,
boys and girls, and things are gonna be just a leetle bit tighter
around here.  Synchronize your timepieces, get out your schedules, and
just see if them choo-choos don't pull into the old station right on
the dime.  Yes sir.
Cuthbert
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From:         Hegemony-Hellfire <CYNOVY@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hegemonad

My, what a clever hegemontage.

(Excuse me, I'm just Heging my bets, mon....)
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Subject:      trim your hedges

but spare the uniball.


Clever hegomontage?
I shall not say so in rodomontade.



Gift-giving in all weathers, cure for the common flea.



Smear Campaign.
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:08:00 EDT
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Subject:      I DIDN'T AUTHORIZE ANY OF THIS

Coherent dialectics, well-reasoned argumentation and carefully-crafted
polemics give me the red ass.
This being the case, I have decided to have each and every one of you
disemboweled, and your entrails fed to a pack of chattering tree shrews
I've discovered living in a Special Corner of Hell.  Please accept my
sincere apologies for not firing a warning shot before undertaking this
admittedly severe action; I've been a little under the weather lately,
and things have gotten out of hand, and I thought a little sudden,
unprovoked mayhem might get you yahoos back on your knees where you
belong.
Cuthbert
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Subject:      fnordian definability:

Does RAW really believe it?

Does a fnordian really mean it?



Agitated Spectacles
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From: queue cue <cheating@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
>quoted material if you do, LIBALP: why in Erin's name, Salamander,
>would you want to move to Ireland?  I hope it's genealogical in

for me, it would be to get closer to the source of all the is Right and Good --
the Guinness Brewry.

anyway, as for 'random' vs. otherwise motion, argue until you're blue in the
face, guys, but all theories will be _just_ theories, for they will be
untestable.  We have no area for comparison.  Unless that `boss' character or
`mib' at the mythical illuminati.gov domain wish to speak about their
experiences in researching alternate realities...

joe

Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions as mine."
jprovo@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                       jzp@gene.ummed.edu
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      nose

	From what I gather, this is what has been happening: there is a
single nose hair which projects several centimeters beyond the borders of
the nostril, so that a finger passing under the nostril would encounter
this hair. Apparently, when the fingers began searching for a grip in order
to apply pressure, considering a pluck, a tiny hard nodule was discovered
attached to his hair. The mirror, which was multiplied five times, revealed
a tiny diamond, which is now being worshiped and warred over, coveted and
sought. It is healing old wounds and creating new ones. However, and this
is where all this confusion relating to nose-picking and such comes in,
not a single one of the nosepickers any more can tell where that diamond
has gone, or whether anybody has swallowed it, and now must defecate into
a plastic bag, and carefully paddle, swirl, and tamp his ruddy fingers
to recover this jewel. If I have any of this wrong, please let me know.
I don't like to be left out of things. FELLOWSHIP HYGIENIC.
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From:         jprovo@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Beating a dead horse
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Oddly enough, robert@whiplash.er.usgs.gov said that humans had developed
in intellect. I propose that this may or may not be true, but just as some
hairy beasts must've noticed that a random natural fire provided heat & light
thru the night, it wasn't a homogeneous group that decided they could
manipulate the burning bush. The alpha males in charge have always liked
the tool-using by the other hairy beasts to be kept to a minimum.  I'm sitting
in a bio lab but couldn't splice a gene if my life depended on it.

Actively using intelligence is a prereq for workable anarchy.

...but then of course communism needed a wholly-communist environment to be
useful, so maybe it is another unreachable goal.

so what; big deal.

joe
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Subject:      footnote

A great deal of text, and criticism of unstructured text, is also caused by
a fear of silence.
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Subject:      sense

oil ration thot
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      elegant solution

I wish to submit a solution to recent fry pans of caterwauling talk big talk
little talk talk left right. In a spirit of humility, which I take from
my late friend Fulcrum, that is, Funcum, whose kind soul, I pray, slipped
out from under that dirt they threw upon his body.

	Reverse signal/noise ratio.


By upsetting this hierarcy, you position as top dog that which cannot be
divided into categories. Spontaneous language games, occurring without
domination, are the equivalent of model agnosticism.


Again Humble, Humble.
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From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      context-based

The same concept is now predominant among many thinkers concerned with
language, ethics, and literary studies. Model-based agnosticism, or something
nearly identicaly, is the norm in what I have observed of academic studies
of these subjects. I knew how interested everyone would be. Gregor.
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From:         Robert Holder <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      JERRRRRRY JERRRRY (HITS $15!) JERRRRRY JERRRRRY
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oh yeah, i forgot.  what was that about garcia being sick?
please turn me on to this juicy bit of news.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~robert holder~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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