From: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group,fj.misc
Subject: [English] Info Wanted: Have you been kicked out of NG?
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:07:49 GMT
Reply-To: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
Followup-To: fj.misc
Organization: Personal Media Corp., Tokyo Japan


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This is a call for postings from those who have done posting in
non-Japanese languages to fj.group. I want you to follow this up to
fj.misc so as not to clutter fj.news.group.  I hope someone had the
time to summarize the postings and then post it to fj.news.group.

Recently, the creation (to be?) of a NG for foreigners visiting Japan
has attracted much attention. If you were not hibernating for the last
several weeks, you know fj.life.in-japan discussion in fj.news.group,
don't you?

During the course of the discussion in fj.news.group, someone
mentioned that he doubts if the response to the foreign posters have
been so bad as they are purpoted to be. He is talking about the
pre-"fj.misc" postings that have taken place. I think he has a valid
point here.  I can't argue him without much evidence on my hands, also
I got curious.

So, would you like to post your experience as to 
your experience when you posted something in non-Japanese language before?:
- Yes, I posted, but nobody ever answered (BTW, REMEMBER, this can
  happen to JAPANESE POSTERS, too! myself included! Tough luck, eh?)
- Yes, I posted, but nobody ever answered, and some people
  pointed out that I should post in Japanese to get better response
  since your chance of getting replys will be higher (worth noting, 
  isn't it?)
- Yes, I posted, but nobody ever answered, and some people
  pointed out that I should post in Japanese (as if it were
  the official language of fj newsgroup, which is incorrect), 
- Yes, I posted, but nobody ever answered, and some people
  even suggested that posting in non-Japanese languages such
  as English/French/Latin/Portugese/Spanish/Icelandic/Klingon
  are ignored with silence unfortunately (with sympathy),
- the same though the responses to you had nasty undertone.

As a Japannese born and grew up in Honsyu island, I hope the last was
NOT your case, but imagine the reaction if I post in comp.sys.unix or
some groups in Japanese. What would happen?

Btw, if I see a posting in German in computer related newsgroup, I
simply ignore it although I spent two years studying German as a college
student. Don't flame me on this. I had so much time on my hands.

Anyway, I think the comments will be helpful for the future course of
discussion. Well, at least, it will give us some food for thought (and
future postings.)


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