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From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: What metzeler recommends for tire pressures
Date: 23 Jan 1993 10:29:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

An insomnia attack forces me to send the following info to the world, taken
from a Metzeler company brochure.

Recommended Tire Pressures (P.S.I.)

Front Tires      Solo     2-Up light   2-up heavy    2-up trailer

90/90-3.25       30-32       30-32        32-34          -
100/90-3.50      30-32       32-33        33-34         33-34
110/90-120/90    32-34       34-35        34-36         36-38
130/70-130/90    36-38       36-38        36-38         38-40

Rear Tires

4.00- 100/90      32-34       34-36        36-38          -
4.25- 110/90      32-34       34-36        36-38          -
120/90-130/90     34-36       36-38        38-40         40-42
MU90- 140/90**    38-40       40-42        42-44         44-49*
150/90-160/80     38-40       40-42        42-44         44-49*
150/80-180/55     36-38       38-40        40-42           -

** Also apllies to ME88 130/90HB16TL

* when pulling a trailer, determine rear tire pressure by tongue weight of
loaded trailer. 0-20 pounds= 44-46psi, 20-30 lbs= 47-48 psi, 30+ lbs= 49 psi.

Metzeler notes that "these pressures are for average conditions. High
speed riding or high road temperatures may require a moderate increase in
pressure, not to exceed the indicated maximum cold pressure on the sidewall
of the tire."

All figures are theirs, not mine

Tire Width Sizing Comparison

Inch     Metric     Alpha
3.00      80          MH
3.25      90          MJ
3.50      100         ML
4.00      110         MM
4.50      120         MP
5.00      130         MT
5.50      140         MU
6.00      150         MV



-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                    Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
From: dlady@galoob.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: J.C. Whitney vs. dealer
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:21:24 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dlady@galoob.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
NNTP-Posting-Host: galoob.cs.utk.edu

In article <4fJkevK00j_j0=W1sh@cs.cmu.edu>, Dale.James@cs.cmu.edu writes:
|> I have bought batteries from JCW in the past, and will again in the future
|> when (...
|> I also put a JCW battery in my GS1100E this spring.  The first one I received
|> Despite charging system problems in the GS1100 which routinely overcharge the
|> battery and boil the electrolyte down to frightningly low levels, the battery
|> will only fail to start the bike on the coldest of mornings, when the bike
|> hasn't been run for a couple weeks.
|> 
|> peace,
|> --dale
|> Dale James, DoD #0229
|> 
|> `This is Pennsylvania.  Love it or....oh, hell.  Wait for me!'

If your GS is boiling the battery dry, you have a bad regulator or even worse
a bad rectifier. Suzuki's are notorious for eating one or the other if
you let the battery get low. When battery voltage is low, the charging system
will put out upwards of 70 volts!!! In a 12 -15 volt system, it fries stuff.
Just FYI..
-- 
Don (dlady@cs.utk.edu) Lady
AMA #162364    DoD #803
Suzuki GS850GX, GS750EN  Yamaha DT175E for the cowtrails!
Honda TR200 (used to be the ex's)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Re: Riding suits for less $$ than Aero$tich??
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:20:03 GMT

stiv@stat.rice.edu (david n stivers) writes:

>Are there any decent lower cost riding suits available?  The espoused
>one, Melinda, is seriously considering getting a bike as daily
>transport, and would like protection against road rash.  Ideally, it
>would be light weight/well vented (this is Texas), and easy to put on
>and take off.  She'd be riding mostly around town (Austin) so
>competition weight leathers are (at present) not really required.

>I guess some people will recommend jeans, but she doesn't own any, and
>it would be nice to be able to wear shorts to walk around in.

>Helmet recommendations would also be appreciated.

>ObWhy It's _her_ idea. (Twist my arm. Ouch! Not that hard!)

>Ob1stBike Saw a nice Kawasaki Z1 for not too much. Whatcha think? ;-)


>Thanks,

>David
>-- 
>david n stivers stiv@rice.edu

There is a co. in CA making a light/medium weight suit called Motowear.
One of the last issues of Rider?? CW?? did a review of it. It costs about
$350. 1 piece, soft armour, center zipper, vented, probably just what you/she's
looking for. wait a minute ... nope, thought I had the info on here, but no.

Should be able to find ads in most if not all the MC rags ...

Yea, the Z-1 is a perfect starter bike ..... NOT!

S.
-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com  (KotS)
 #  AMA #600897 "Gosh, that's the 3rd motorcycle that's passed us. Sure do take
#   DoD #0227    their life in their hands, what with the weather and all."
 #  INOA #8563   "Yes Janet, life's pretty cheap to that type."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Re: Breaking an endless chain
Organization: NASA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:57:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.222344.8828@ms.uky.edu> amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr) writes:
>Have any of you ever broken an endless chain (O-ring) and put it back together
>via a link?  If so, please share your experience (e-mail if you prefer).
>Are there any disadvantages to doing this?  It appears that I will have to
>break the OEM (#530 O-ring) chain on my 87 CBR1000 in order to install
>the JMC braced swing arm which I finally received.  As always, many
>thanks in advance for your help.
>

I thought removing the swing arm is exactly how you replace an endless chain
without breaking it.  Am I missing something?  

Tom Gent

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Definitive HD TV/Vid Authorized Collectible
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:42:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.123352.11271@bnr.uk> npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>Keep the bike and push the gal off the cliff.  You can get a cheap replacement
>from say, India, that will cost a lot less than 15k and will be far more
>reliable.  Easy starting too, I hear - just a kick or two.
>
Now why would I want to push a girl off of Cliff?  I mean, if he went 
through all the trouble of talking her into getting on him in the first
place, why should I spoil it by pushing her off?

And to think. I used to think you were a nice guy, Nick.

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '92 VFR750F           |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Know of any motorcycles movies?
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Summary: Yup
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:09:54 GMT

Watched it (again) last night -- I bought the video...

Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man

Ed (forget what kind of bike he rides, tho) Leihy
DoD#0521
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: BMW R65LS has a new home...
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:12:09 GMT

Earlier, weiss@bdcv8.nrl.navy.mil (Warren W. Weiss) moaned:
>
>I am pleased to announce that I, too, have recently adopted a 1982 BMW 
>R65LS with a stunningly low 14,000 miles on the odometer.
>
>All for the bargain-basement, rock-bottom price of $650.00!! 
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Warren W. Weiss      VMI '87                 email:  weiss@bdcv8.nrl.navy.mil


I think you got took!  That sounds like an awfully high price for what you
got there.  14,000 miles on a BMW means it's likely worn out by now.
Sorry you didn't know ahead of time.   :-)

I'll give you $675 for it, so you can get out from under it.  Us BMW types
do have to stick together, after all!


Charlie Smith     VPI '63
       charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
  DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
                BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                          Columbus, Ohio USA

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Luis Miguel Quinta <lquinta@animal.inescn.pt>
Subject: Just starting
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78DA4701901F690@mac4.inescn.pt>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 14:55:44 GMT
Organization: INESC Porto
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 14:50:36 GMT

Hi folks!

I've just joined the motorcycle world (and news group).
Two weeks ago I've bought a Yamaha XV535 Virago and, so far, I'm very
happy with her.
So, has a starter, I think I can make some inocent questions:

1 - Do you thing it was a good idea to start with a 535cc with 46cv bike ?

2 - Can you reveal any experience you may have with a similar bike ?

3 - I'm not very familiarized with biker language. In what classe of
motorcycle can you insert my new bike ?, Shopper ?, Costum ?, Can anyone
make a short description of styles and respective characteristics ?


Thanks in advance

Luis
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: Suzuki RE-5?
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 17:27:58 GMT

All the ones I have seen have been in pieces in garages.
I actualy drove on once, and what a piece of crap.

I think it was nicknamed 'Water Buffalo'.
--





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From: kensib@cary107.its.rpi.edu (Brian C. Kensing)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: How to get a license?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:19:47 GMT
Reply-To: kensib@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.


	Aside from the obvious like going to the DMV and getting a permit, how would I go about getting a motorcycle license in New York State?  How should I learn the "proper" way to ride on-road?  What kind of bike would be good for a beginner?
						Thanks,
						   Brian
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Nationalized Lawyers  was Re: pitch for nat'l health, was: etc
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:21:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.135630.4790@bnr.uk> npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>
>LISTEN!  YOU SHIT-FOR-BRAINS LITTLE DWEEB!  NEXT TIME YOU GET TURNED AWAY FROM
>A HOSPITAL FOR NOT HAVING PAID YOUR INSURANCE AND ARE LEFT TO DIE IN THE GUTTER
>BECAUSE NOBODY GIVES A TOSS ABOUT EACH OTHER IN YOUR PATHETIC EXCUSE OF AN
>EXPERIMENTAL COUNTRY, PONDER A WHILE ABOUT THE MARVELS OF A NATIONAL HEALTH
>SERVICE!  Over here, you can pay for additional services which amount to queue
>jumping and a telly in your room, if you really want to.  Nobody stops you
>from doing what you will with your money.  The frightening thing is countries
>like yours where everything is treated as a business and you are nothing more
>than a profit for someone else.  If you become a liability then God Bless You
>because nobody is going to want to look after you.
>
>Our postal service is the envy of most countries.  91% (?) of first class
>letters are delivered by the following day, even from Cornwall to the 
>Highlands of Scotland.  Posting abroad is a joke because other countries postal
>services are so bad...
>
>I don't know where the "fecal matter" comes into any of this, except to
>describe the brains required to post such an article as you did.
>
>Get back to your work, Mr Pariah.
>
>
>Nick (the British Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford  
>
>M'Lud.

Without getting into the "our country vs your country" thing, the problem
is not that us "capitalists" are only out to get a profit.  Compassion
is one of the greatest things in the world but YOU CAN NOT LEGISLATE IT.
If I decide to help a cause, then I'll take it in as my own and work like
hell to make it successful (ex: helping others get proper care, etc).  In
such a situation, I don't want help or money taken from those who are not
sympathetic to my cause.  At the same time, I don't want my resources 
taken away to help other causes when I have my own battles to fight.

Again, however, you have made the same mistakes others have made.  Just because
something is GOOD (ex: everyone has medical care), does not mean you have
the right to make it the law.  Just because you value everyone's life doesn't
give you the right to take from me to fund your projects.  Also, you have to
consider the effects of rampant taxation on people.  I am willing to work
hard because it gives me needed money.  Money is vote power.  I vote which
charities, stores, etc I think should survive by using my money.  Take away
my vote and I'm a lot less likely to be a hard worker.  Also, I'm more
likely to responsibly cast my vote than ANY gubment (Mercun, 'NGLUSH, etc).


Best Regards
Jack Waters II

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Make no Mistake, I am the Red Fishnet.         ~
~                                DoD#1919        ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Cliff Weston)
Subject: A More Strident DoD Watch Call for Orders III
Followup-To: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu
Originator: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:02:20 GMT

Rec.motorcycles inhabitants:

As everyone is by now acutely aware, I am soliciting checks for the DoD
Watches, to be ordered Friday, 29 January (new date, previously the 28th).
When I trolled for interest, I got it to the tune of 78 Watches.  Since
calling for actual bucks, I've received only 36 Watches worth of funds;
moreover, half of these are from people who did not respond to the original
"Are you interested?" articles.

The $25 US price is based on a minimum of 50 Watches ordered; a lower quantity
translates to a higher price.  Please send either a check or email telling me
you're no longer interested, those of you who said you were before (I'll not
post your names -- I have some standards, even if I associate with this crowd).
Those of you who are now newly-interested, send a *huge* check.  The address,
which I just remembered to include (this time :-) is:

                        Cliff Weston
                        Box 440, Jordan Hall, UVA
                        Charlottesville VA 22908

Thank you, everyone who has sent money/emailed telling me money was on the way.
If you're not sure your check will make it here by the 28th, email me and I'll
order you the Watch on faith.  I'm a nice guy, really -- ask my Mom.


Bryan Jones, mail to you bounced.  I got your check and THANK YOU for the tip.
A toast will be said in your honor before the celebratory brew is quaffed,
good sir.

Laura Mirisola, I received your check as well.  Email is rubber and my .mbox
is epoxy .... everything I send bounces off you and sticks to me.

Bob Marrow, I haven't lost you three times -- yet.

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|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          One bike, No guns       |
|                                                                          |
|                   I consider....buying used underpants.                  |
|                            -- Geir Solvang                               |
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From: jdh64@cas.org (Dave Huddle)
Subject: Town Bike??
Reply-To: jdh64@cas.org
Organization: What, Me Organized?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:36:49 GMT


Saw this misplaced article over in  misc.fittness & moved it over here where it
belongs!!
----------------------

Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.running
 

I saw an interview with the members of the music group "Right Said Fred"
("I'm Too Sexy"), in which one member described the girlfriend of the
other member as "the town bike".  Referring to the fact that everyone
had ridden her...

Nothing to do with THIS thread, of course.

-----------------------
		Dave     DoD# sqrt(-1)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange)
Subject: Re: MSF Computer Challenge
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:27:30 GMT

I had no problem getting skill.zip with ftp. I used tenex and then Pkunzip
and it worked perfectly. Maybe there is a problem with modems or two xfers
of the file? I brought it directly to my pc without a hitch.


HP.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: single vs. dual disk
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 06:34:28 GMT

In article <30082@oasys.dt.navy.mil> sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges) writes:
>
>You guys have been hinting around at lots of discussion of dual vs single
>disks, but you must look a little deeper to find and answer.  The question
>is not 'which are better'  but instead.. 'how to best stop my bike??'
>
>A brake system is dependent on a number of things, and the one-time
>stopping ability will be affected by...
>
>number of disks
>diameter of disk(s)
>size of pads squeezing disk(s)
>pressure of pads, which is lever effort x mechanical advantage of system
>and size of wheel.  (lets assume equal tire type/traction)
>    (mechanical advantage of the system is the combination of the lever
>	  advantage and the ratio of the master cylinder/ slave cylinder)
>
>Now, there is the matter of the weight of the system, which is mostly
>unsprung, or else bigger brakes would be great.  To reduce the weight,
>therefore, you might reduce the # of disks to 1 and recover the loss
>in braking ablility by increasing pad size and disk diameter.
>
>It is difficult to mess around too much with pad pressure as this is
>directly proportial to lever effort and lever travel.  These two factors
>must fall with a very small range, (so that the lever is comfortable)
>
>The third and final consideration is to now expand the design to include
>multiple or long duration braking.... which means you must shed lots
>of heat.  Two disks may be necessary for this, if the bike gets much
>over 350 lbs (and racetrack type braking, ie, lots of it, often)

We don't bother any more with coefficient of friction, do we?  It must
also be intuitively obvious that cooling holes are not something to be 
considered.

I don't think the mechanical advantage of the hand lever to pad pressure 
comes into it either.  It must be that the hand lever master cylinder
piston diameter and the caliper piston(s) diameter/quantity doesn't play a
part any more.   Too bad.

He also didn't discuss the "cornering on rails" effect, and didn't touch
on the coefficient of heat transfer brought on by color coding the left
and right brake disks.

He also didn't discuss M'Lud's theory of single disks inducing veering
away from that dangerous oncoming traffic!



Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
  DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
                BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                          Columbus, Ohio USA

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: need plans for voice communications
Keywords: voice, helmets
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:12:42 GMT

In article <kilborn.727675678@vincent2.iastate.edu> kilborn@iastate.edu (Scott E Kilborn) writes:
>Does anyone out there know where I can get plans for a circuit
>to communicate between two people on a bike?
>
>I want a mike and headphones on both of my full-face helmets (i.e. - 2 way)
>I would think it would be pretty simple, but I am not far enough through
>my electronics training to come up with something like this.

What they don't teach you in your electronics courses is that it's usually
cheaper to buy it than to build it yourself. Parts are cheap, individually,
but when you add in a board, case, microphones, speakers, even a couple of
ICs (for amplifiers) that cost more than a couple of bucks, switches and
knobs, it adds up. Same bike intercoms are cheap.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pab@security.mitre.org (Paul A. Bicknell)
Subject: Re: Suzuki RE-5?
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:34:43 GMT

In article <BLEVE.93Jan19122758@hoggle2.uucp> bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve) writes:
>All the ones I have seen have been in pieces in garages.
>I actualy drove on once, and what a piece of crap.
>
>I think it was nicknamed 'Water Buffalo'.
>--
>

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>|Bennett Leve    84 V-65 Sabre            |   mov        ah, 04Ch     |
>|Orlando, FL                              |   mov        al, 0        |
>|hoggle!hoggle2!bleve@peora.sdc.ccur.com  |   int        021h         |
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-- 

The RE-5 was a truely weird scoot... It would be very interesting for
a collector, because it is so unusual. The Wankle motor was
unbeliveably complicated. The bike only performed so/so at the time
(~1975), was heavy, and weird looking. One would be a good museum
piece, or would fit into Jay Leno's collection of oddities. I'd hate
to try and keep one running...

The water buffalo was the GT-750 two-stroke triple of ~1973-~1977. It
was one of the first water cooled bikes. It ran in the "Super Bike"
class of the day with CB750 Hondas, Z1 Kawis, etc. It did 'ok'.

===============================================================================

Some do, some don't, I might....

Paul Bicknell		email: 	pab@security.mitre.org
The MITRE Corporation	voice: 	(617) 271-3625
Burlington Road		FAX:	(617) 271-3957
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: non Re: magnetic tankbags
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:17:00 GMT

In article <mjs.727693802@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk> mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:

>not too much of a problem...but when I went to France last year, I had to
>turn the bike round in the car deck of the ferry...the horn button made
>constant contact with the tankbag, so the horn was blaring away in the
>big echoing cavern of a car deck, making me less than popular with everyone
>else on board...unfortunately it took several goes to get the bike pointing
>the other way....

I didn't know that they made bikes where the horn worked with the ignition
off.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada