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From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: Re: Do Women Really Want A Guy That Makes Them Laugh?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:53:36 GMT
Keywords: Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk!  Woo-woo-woo-woo!  Hey Moe! Hey Larry!

In article <stone.724361679@cwis> stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone) writes:
>
>
>Ladies of A.R. :
>
>I have heard---time and again---that one of the big things a
>woman looks for in a guy is "a sense of humor".  Well, pardon
>me for saying this, but that's a wee bit vague.  Just what do
>women *mean* when they say they like a guy with a sense of humor?

I'd like a guy who can make you laugh once in a while, and is fun to be
with, someone who is there to cheer you up when you need someone.  I doubt
any woman would want to go out with a guy who is mega conservative and
doesn't laugh or even smile.

>
>I have heard variants of this answer, things like "I like a guy
>who can make me laugh."  There *must* be a hell of alot more to
>it than this, ladies---as many gals as I've gotten giggling, I
>should be dripping with women.  Now, be honest---grins 'n giggles
>*aren't* the only things you look for in a man, so tell me:
>What else are you looking for?  
>
>---- T.R. Stone
>     Average-Looking, Kinda Funny, Completely Perplexed By Women
> 
I don't want a guy who is constantly joking around - no seriousness in him
at all.  It's nice to joke once in a while, but it's also nice to talk to
him about anything and know that you'll get a serious answer.  It's hard to
say... I hope this helps!

Smiles,
  Dawna =)


Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: pierceha@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Heather Pierce)
Subject: John Fippen
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:41:48 GMT


John, 
   Please keep posting about your love for your wife.  I sure can stand
to hear more from men who love their spouses and from women who love their
spouses too.  I think that the example you set will help all of us when
we finally find the loves of our lives...hopefully.
                         Thanks again,
                          Heather
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: The Scariest Words In The World?
From: mcsbc2msd@dct.ac.uk (El thicko)
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:18:00 GMT
Organization: on some remote unknown terminal...


	Scariest I have heard:-

	When you say to someone 'I love you'

	and they answer with:-

	'Thats nice.....'

	Number 2 set of scary words:-

	'I don't want to go out with you anymore.'

	*Extreme Fear*!!!!

	Mike D.

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From: vedder@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (vedder julie ann)
Subject: Re: The Scariest Words In The World?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:28:05 GMT
Keywords: AIEEEEGH!

afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:



>technology, talked a blue streak about it to a woman, and elicited anything 
>more back than `cool !'. 

>Have you ever had a meaningful discussion with your SO about disc brakes or 
>a transmission ? I thought not ! :-)

It IS possible for two people to have similar interests, or at least show
interest in the others interests.  I tend to get involved and interested
and ask questions, myself.

Julie
vedder@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

"You're free to change your course, but so long as you follow it, you're
not free to escape its logic."  --Ayn Rand
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Relationships and Friendships
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:07:44 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.41

Well I know most of you are all pretty sick to death with my views on
this, but ya know, there just might be one or two that are newbies or have
forgotten... ;-)

In article <1992Dec12.192722.16084@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kchin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ken H Chin) writes:
>
>When you met your SO: 

Long gone, but I dimly recollect what happened :-)

>1. Were you seeking only friendship and were surprised by the 
>   subsequent development of romantic interests?
>2. Were you seeking friendship knowing that there was the possibility
>   of mutual interest in a romantic relationship?A

Not at all. It was mutual interest in a romance -- eventually. I took a
little longer than her to realise the mutual physical attraction.

>3. Did you pursue a romantic relationship soon after meeting each other,
>   with the friendship developing later on?

What friendship? It was animal lust all the way! (I realise now.) I
*thought* we were friends, but I was mistaken. It was romance immediately
I gave in to her advances.

>
>How common are the different cases, and what are there advantages and
>disadvantages?  I am trying to figure out if I am doing anything wrong,
>and if so, what I can do to change that.  

*Everyone* else on the net seems to meet loads of friends and then cream off
the best as romances. That's because they're Sensible. ;-)

>
>I know that many people believe that things romantic should 
>happen "naturally" and automatically, but I am convinced that healthy
>relationships require work, clear thinking analysis, and real
>communication, in addition to "romance".

Ah hah, a fellow "rationality in romance" personage. Excellent. Welcome
aboard!

I still fall in love first, then try to be friends though... How stupid.
How human.

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From: zaidioa@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Omar A. Zaidi)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "We could still be friends"
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:14:14 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: anneke.cs.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Dec7.151236.3664@eff.org> fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter) writes:
>Maybe I'm unusually fortunate, but every person I've said this to or who has
>said this to me has remained my friend.  Real friend, as in, "I can call you
>up and tell you things."  In some cases it took a while -- my college SO and
>I split up because it was either that or get married, and as much as we cared
>about each other, we knew it wouldn't work out.  It took us almost 2 years
>before we could bear to be together as friends.  Now?  Well, he called me
>recently to let me know that he and his current girlfriend have gotten 
>engaged, and we spent almost an hour talking about tuxedos and dresses and
>rings and such, and it didn't bother either of us at all.
>
>What I'm trying to say, in a long-winded sort of way, is that if there's 
>genuine love between two people, it doesn't just disappear when the romantic
>part of the relationship ends.  Sometimes "We could still be friends" means
>exactly that:  "we could still be friends."
>
>My $0.02



Well,

	It took me a while to sort myself out when this happened to me
in April, but the female in question is still a good friend. Meantime,
I've met another and we've been happily together since the end of
April. Love does work you see ;-)





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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: an2883@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Female Pen Pals Sought
X-Anonymously-To: alt.romance
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:40:03 GMT

X-Anon-To: alt.romance


Hello:


I'm a 30 year old male who would like to establish annonymous
E-mail contact with females who can help revive my wifes dead
battery. I need a female prospective of this problem and would
really like to hear from married women or women in serious
relationships but am all ears to anyone who replies. The bottom 
line is that I need to know what has caused a woman who once couldn't 
keep her hands me off to get to the point where she will use almost any 
excuse to keep me away. 


Note: I posted a more descritive description of my problem
      on alt.sex under the subject "Marriage and Sex"

All responses will be annonymous.

Mack

Annonymous Address: an2883@anon.penet.fi

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From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: "We could still be friends"
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:41:46 GMT

csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (** DECKER **) writes:

>What do you do when someone says "I really like you, but it'll never be
>anything more"?

>I always promised to myself that I would never post anything like this,
>but there you go. I'm just interested in other people's reactions to this
>(probably common) scenario.

This is a hard question to answer.  I told this to someone once and then
ended up falling in love with him.  

But more times than not, when a person says this, he or she really means
it and doesn't change his or her mind.

sharon 
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 06:32:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <Bz4C8L.9B7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.205926.14731@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>>And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
>>>what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
>>>Mary
>>
>>Well, that's what *some* of those muscles are for.... >;-)
>>
>>rip
>
>Those *are* the muscles you were using that night, weren't they?  I
>mean, did we miss something when you two and Drieux retreated to the
>garage?
>
>Mary

MA ROTFL and grins at Mary... Good one :):)

MA tickles Rip and Drieux 

SNUGS

Mary-Ann
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From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:55:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec15.185525.11370
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec15.115120.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.191651.10925@sequent.com>, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>
>> *Doors* man!  *Doors!* I wouldn't go near drieux's drawers with a 20
>> foot, stainless steel, ionized pole!
>       How about two 5-foot (slightly irradiated) Czecks?
>
>:=)
>
>|===   You have no choice in the matter, so you may as well give in   ===|
>|===   and just be yourself.                                          ===|

Nah, all my Czecks keep bouncing....

rip
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge113.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Let's Make the World a More Loving Place
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:20:25 GMT

  Ok.  It's time for the Christmas season once again.  We're all supposed to be
a bit kinder to our fellow man (or woman).  But, why does it have to stop
there?

  I mean, what's wrong with friendly hugs, and affectionate touching (not
romantic, just between friends and so on).  We all like to be touched, since
it is an expression of deepest fondness and affection.  So, why are we so
afraid of it?  It seems that the only place where _any_ touching is permitted,
especially for guys, is within the context of a romantic relationship.

  Why do affection and fondness have to be so limited?  Love multiplies---if
you give a lot out, you get a lot more back than you gave out.  I mean,
really, why can't a guy hug someone without it being considered a sexual
overture (or sexual perversion)?

  Maybe it's just a dream---I know that for all my hoping and wishing, I'll
still consider affection primarily reserved for relationships, simply because
so many people react so badly to the simplest, most innocent touch.  But,
what do all of you think about this?

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to say it."  - Voltaire.
From: haydedr@wkuvx1.bitnet (Ross Hayden)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Gestures of Affection
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:27:00 CST
Organization: WKU Computer Science Dept.

In article <225@cnmhnet.UUCP>, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
> I've been reading this thread for a while now, and
> I feel that a comment on office Gestures of Affection
> needs to be put forth.  In this day & time, I don't think
> it is prudent for one to offer ANY gestures of affection
> in the office.

[...]

> 	Bottom line? Don't give compliments in the office.
> Don't say hello to any of the ladies.  Refuse to even look
> in their direction.  This is the only way you will be safe
> from being charged with sexual harrassment.

A sad but true commentary on sexual harrassment today.

-- 
Ross Hayden                       |
haydedr@wkuvx1.bitnet             |      "What you see is all you get."
Computer Science Department       |                  -- Brian Kernighan
Western Kentucky University       |
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@jec328.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: The Scariest Words In The World?
Keywords: AIEEEEGH!
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:09:30 GMT

madjdsad@aludra.usc.edu (Zagros Madjd-Sadjadi) writes:

>In article <Bz430A.L6o@news.iastate.edu> argent@iastate.edu (The Great Grendel-Khan) writes:
>>How about:
>>		  "Let's get married."

>I don't think so.  The scariest word by far is:

>"No"
>     when given after a proposal of marriage because before the proposal you
>     are always scared that this will be the answer.

 Actually, wouldn't the scariest possible rejection of your proposal be..

 "I don't want to marry you, but we can still be the BEST of friends."
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:37:35 GMT

In article <Bz3nLt.95G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
> 
> And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
> what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
> 
> Mary

Damn!  I thought they were for sweeping women off their feet.  :)

Larry
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
From: epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:36:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.173735.8755@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>>I explained:
>> And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
>> what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
>> 
>> Mary
>
>Damn!  I thought they were for sweeping women off their feet.  :)
>
>Larry

Well, they're for that too Larry!!  Sweeping us off our feet, moving
heavy furniture around, carrying doors down the steps (watch out for
the light fixture!!).


Mary
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: More Poems
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:57:59 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

Silly me wrote:
>Not sure if my poems really fit alt.romance, but heck,
>you can stop me now, can ya? :)
      ^^^   DUH, that should be "can't"
>Enjoy...
>
[poems deleted to save massive bandwidth]
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From: HF.JLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Janet Newman)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: List of Gestures of Affection (LGA)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 11:09:00 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Dec9.014332.8833@netcom.com>,
ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.233108.27474@athena.cs.uga.edu> skip@rosalyn.stat.uga.edu (Skip Gundlach) writes:
>>In article <BywAoB.G4u@world.std.com> aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page) writes:
>>>
>>>  (Any good books on adminsitering hugs?)
>>>
>>I no longer have it, so I cannot quote pub and author, and may also
>>misquote the title, but there is a book, "The hug book" or The book of
>>hugs" available, I should think, at various mainstream bookstores.  It
>>is about 5" square, hardbound.
>
>I think you may have in mind two books by Kathleen Keating, both published
>by CompCare Publishers, Minneapolis:
>
>_The Hug Therapy Book_, ISBN 0-89638-065-3
>_Hug Therapy 2_, ISBN 0-89638-130-7
>
>Mine are paperbound, about 6 1/4 x 5 1/4 inches.
>--
>Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
>Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California

I've got a 5" square paperback titled: _Hugs and Kisses_ "A book
for adults and other children."  By Bruce Davis, Ph.D & Genny
Wright, Workman Publishing Co, NY, 1977.

It's a great little book with cartoon people (no bears - except
for stuffed ones in the "learning how to hug" section).

Here're a couple of excerpts:

"The most important thing to know is that you deserve lots and
lots of hugs and kisses."

"Some people think that a kiss is something you do with your
lips.  But a kiss is really something you do to make you and
someone else feel better.  Anything you do that feels good can
be a kiss.  Sometimes you do not use your mouth at all, but
instead you use your toes to kiss."

Well...maybe you need the drawing to get the whole cute picture.
Fax numbers anyone?

JLN
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Afraid of being hurt...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:29:35 GMT

Angela Johnson <Angela_Johnson@med.umich.edu> writes:

>In article <1992Dec04.214627.9107@microsoft.com> Bassam Abukarroum,

>>their interest is mutual. As soon as the man gets closer, the woman
>calls it 
>>off. I understand that there might be a change of feelings and she is
>totally 
>>entitled to it, but what if the reason is that she is afraid of being
>hurt  
>>(better divorce, bad ex-relationship, abused by ex-...whatever the
>reason is).
>>
>>My question is how do we caring men are supposed to handle such a
>situation 
>>when we care A LOT about her.


>I, also, have a tendency to feel uncomfortable/scared if 
>my SO (early in the dating process) begins pushing me
>into a commitment before I'm ready.  
>I enjoy knowing a man cares for me, however
>I don't like to be overwhelmed with attention/gifts, etc.,
>or feeling like he is trying to MAKE me like/love/care and
>trust him.  It doesn't work that way (for me anyway);
>time and understanding do work though.

I think this is true for a lot of women.  It's definitely true for me.
I don't like to be overwhelmed with attention and gifts either.  Maybe it's
because I feel like being showered with attention and gifts makes the 
relationship unequal or something.  I'd rather spend time doing fun things
and getting to know each other and becoming friends.

Maybe it's weird, but I have to really /enjoy/ being with someone and that
means that we have to have /fun/.  Both of us.  I don't want him to be
constantly worrying that he's showering the right amount of attention.  

My former SO was my best friend before the relationship, was my best friend
during the relationship.  We're even friends now.  I just got to the point
where I enjoyed being with him so much that I wanted to be "more than friends"
and hence we had a wonderful four year relationship.  It wasn't like we
started hanging around each other with the intention of dating or anything
like that.  We were just friends but we ended up being more, for a while
at least.

Sharon 
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Chemistry (was Re: relationships and friendships..i think!)
Reply-To: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:59:00 GMT


In a previous article, dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) says:

>In article <1992Dec15.005222.17799@netcom.com> marcia@netcom.com (Marcia) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec12.192722.16084@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kchin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ken H Chin) writes:
>
>[Stuff munged]
>
>Can you say a bit more about this "chemistry" stuff, Marcia? I think some
>of my problems (and maybe others') lies in the area of the mysterious
>"chemistry". 

[more stuff munged]

[Stewart's relevant Chemical reaction condensed]

>I don't think it's love, but there's
>*something* powerful still there. A strong desire on my part. I call it 
>"chemistry", but what do you and others think about the general issue of
>"chemistry"?
>
well, i don't know what it is either...but there is, i think, something
to the Chemistry theory...there is/was a guy i went to grad school with..
he WAS _Bloom_County's_ Steve Dallas in looks and attitude...and i just
was totally drawn to him..though it never had a chance of working...

he even was a bit of a jerk, not my type at all...but i know even 
now, were i to see him...it'd be like a bird looking into the eye
of a Cobra..  <probably better i never had a chance!>


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