HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Taras@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Taras)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Open Air Forge
Date: 4 Dec 92 04:41:31 GMT


 > render it to coke
 >  Ta> by the time it reaches the actual fire in the middle.
 > Okay, that's all understood now. What about using anthracite
 > for fuel?
 
 Use the heat from the central fire as concentrated in the brake drum 
to run the coal down to coke. You will get a yellow greenish flame if you are
burning off sulphur in the central flame. You want to run pure coke in your
flame to keep impurities out of your metal. Try it and you will see what I
mean.
 
 > [smile] We don't have one of those either... This is an
 > island with only
 > around 1000 people. There is a council rubbish tip that
 > I might be able
 
 On an island you must have a boat boneyard. Cast iron exhaust manifold 
can work for air feed pipe. A cutting welding rig (oxyacetaline) can be used to
fit and bend the pipe.
From: Clint.Hawkinson@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Clint Hawkinson)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: download interrupt
Date: 8 Dec 92 04:20:14 GMT

i encountered a problem with disk 0660. while downloading,a garbage
count exceeded message appeared. at that
From: Lady.Guinevere@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Lady Guinevere)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Titles
Date: 8 Dec 92 07:11:04 GMT

SW>David doesn't like the SCA, or anything associated with it, and therefore
SW>takes every opportunity to accuse us of whatever.

SW>There is no reason you can't use Lady Guinevere on the BBS's, including

Is there a reason why he doesn't like the SCA?  I'd like to know before
I join in anything.

Lady Guinevere
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From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: E-mail
Date: 5 Dec 92 14:30:29 GMT

Lord Green Anchor wrote:
 "> From: "Wayne Patton" <uunet!UHL.UIOWA.EDU!wpatton>

 "> I work on an Apple II, while this machine is messy-dos.

 Does that mean you have no use for that copy of ATM I sent you? In that
 case, send it back and I'll give it to someone who can use it...

    Tadhg, Obelisk
From: Bjorn@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bjorn)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Wallet Buster, Part 1of3
Date: 7 Dec 92 20:01:04 GMT

Kerry said:

KM> I would also be interested in details of any catalogues 
KM> of things medieval, if such a beast exists.

Dathi replied:

D> I posted the... information for Heraldry Today... they will
D> send you... a new and an old (used) books catalog... lock up
D> your wallet and credit cards before you open the envelope...

I have another wallet buster for you: 

 Centaur Forge Ltd.
 P.O. Box 340         1-800-666-9175
 117 N. Spring St.    1-414-763-9175
 Burlington, Wis.
 53105       USA      1-414-763-8350 (FAX)

They have a very complete line of blacksmith's and farrier's
supplies, including tools, metal stock, blacksmith's coal,
and books.  

The books include everything from _De_Re_Metallica_ by Georgus
Agricola, to _The_Best_of_the_Hammer_ Vol. 1-4  (The Hammer is 
the Middle Kingdom Armourers' Guild quarterly newsletter).  

Bjorn Bjorklund, Storvik, Atlantia

P.S.  I may need a new copy of the catalog soon, 
its hard to keep from drooling all over it.  ;)

 -- SPEED 1.00 [NR]: "Forge all day, dance all night!" - The Dancing Smith
From: Longshot@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Longshot)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: ASFA and the DOS Armorial
Date: 5 Dec 92 15:05:57 GMT

A node in the net called Bob Upson, coded to Matt Drury,
on 16 Nov 92  19:27:00, about ASFA and the DOS Armorial

 BU> To supplement ASFA, what I would *really* like to see is a more
 BU> organized system for making the armorial files themselves more readily
 BU> available.  I frequently see listings of locations for USENEt style
 BU> ftp of the armorial but only rarely see it available for FidoNet style
 BU> F'Req (file request) or even live BBS download. 
 BU> I have the armorial available for F'Req (magic name ARMORIAL) or live
 BU> caller D/L but, alas, I haven't been able to secure a new edition for
 BU> over a year. Is there *anyone* out there with the ability to make
 BU> up-to-date DOS versions available on a regular basis? 

lo'
  I have an indestrious friend in my barony who is working to make the 
Armourial more friendly with DOS and is also seeking to produce a Windows 
version as well.
   Anything I can pass along?
                                                - Aindries



... Heraldic counting: 1, 2, 2 & 1, 2 & 2, In Cross, 3 - 2 & 1, Semy.
From: Theron.Bretz@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Theron Bretz)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Private Life in the Fifteenth Century
Date: 9 Dec 92 01:05:00 GMT

From the pen(?) of Etienne de Montagu, good greetings:
If Tadgh doesn't want it I do....
                                Etienne
From: Dave.Aronson@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Dave Aronson)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Moderator!
Date: 8 Dec 92 16:44:54 GMT


 BE> In a msg on <Dec 06 13:43>, Dave Martin of 1:280/43 writes:

 DM>   Who is the moderator of this echo....does Sirlin read and post 
 DM> in here or is he to busy with the PPI BBS?

 BE> Paul Dyer is the Moderator.  I've seen Sirlin post in 
 BE> the HS_MODEMS echo, but not here yet.

 BE> Regards,
 BE> Bill

 BE> --- msgedsq 2.1
 BE>  * Origin: EchoMail Express BBS (512) 836-7730 * 
 BE> PM14400FXSA V.32bis (1:382/35)

Hunh?  This wound up in the Medieval echo, of which I am the moderator.  What
echo did you write that in?  Someone somewhere must have a crosslink....
From: Diane.Pilkington@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Diane Pilkington)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: bjornsborg (you aske
Date: 4 Dec 92 07:49:08 GMT


 -=> Quoting Dathi to Ruth Woodring <=-

 RW>  No Dathi -- longest Courts Award goes to Elfsea......

 Da> I have never been to one in Elfsea that was longer than the 
 Da> Warlord courts I have attended.
 
 Be fair. Warlord is the largest, oldest continuing event
 in Ansteorra. We pack in more people than Coronation. It
 follows that more business will take place in our courts.

 I think that the perceived length of the court is
 greatly affected by how the court is run. Is the business
 at least nominally of interest to most of the populace, or
 is there a lot of local-interest-only, in-jokes, and
 (gag barf retch) household stuff cluttering up court?
 Does the Crown and/or other presiding noble keep the 
 speeches short and audible, or do they drone on and on
 without anyone being able to hear a word? Does the herald
 keep the pace rolling, or are there long pauses while he
 gets his s**t together? Did court start at a reasonable
 hour, or at 9 p.m.? Is it too hot/cold/crowded?

 After many of the courts I have attended, I looked at my
 watch and thought, "It was only an hour?" and looked at 
 my report form and thought, "And they only gave out eight
 awards?" After some courts, the thoughts were, "It only 
 took an hour and a half for them to give out twenty-seven
 awards!" It mainly depends on the presiding nobles and
 their herald(s).

 Serena


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From: Ray.Henderson@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Ray Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: INFORMATION SERVICE!
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:56:00 GMT

Hi Martin! sorry about what the wife is doing to you! If you would like you can
leave me some info on the girl and mother what they look l,relfamily,and
anything else you can think of.  I have a home based Information Service and I
am a member of several database's all over Northamerica and a few in Euro.
I would like to help in any way I can,I also know a few world wide PI's and I
can get info on anything, so if you would like some more help just leave me a
message and I will get on it.  I live in the night,that is the best time for
me to gather information.  C
From: Bjorn@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bjorn)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Wallet Buster, Part 3of3
Date: 7 Dec 92 20:07:08 GMT

Centaur Forge Catalog

 Centaur Forge Ltd.
 P.O. Box 340         1-800-666-9175
 117 N. Spring St.    1-414-763-9175
 Burlington, Wis.
 53105       USA      1-414-763-8350 (FAX)

Tools, stock & shop gear:

p.    8-53 various Farrier's supplies 
p.      54 Drill bits & taps
p.      55 Power tapper & plugs
p.      56 Borium & Drill-Tek
p.      57 CW Nuggets
p.   58-59 Steel & Aluminum bar stock
p.   60-64 more Farrier's stuff
p.      65 Leather & harness care products
p.   66-67 Horse care products
p.   68-69 Hand stamps (various scripts & custom made stamps)
p.      70 Saftey Glasses
p.   74-75 Aprons & metal markers
p.   76-77 Shoeing boxes, hammer handles & wedges for hammer handles
p.   78-81 Peddinghaus & other hammers
p.   82-84 Rasps, file cards, wire brushes, hardies & hardie sleeves
p.   85-92 Various Farriers' tools
p.      93 Various tools, soapstones, beeswax, & TOOL/DIE STEEL blanks
p.   94-95 Forge tongs
p.   96-97 Peddinghaus & other blacksmith tools (chisels, punches, 
           fullers, swages, flatters, Anvil horn, etc)
p.   98-99 Metalforming tools (various stakes, stake holders & horses)
p.     100 Welding compound, crescent, borax, brazing flux, hardening 
           powder & bearing babbit
p. 101-103 Shop tools: ladles, mandrel cones, leg box vises, swage blocks,
           Beverly shears, Edwards shears, Whitney punches, belt sanders
p. 104-108 Blacksmiths & Farriers Anvils
p.     109 Vises & anvil benches
p. 110-112 Coal forges, forge parts, coal
p. 113-115 Firepots & blowers
p.     116 Saftey information  (instruction on safely setting up a forge)
p. 117-121 Gas forges, accessories & parts
p. 122-123 Shop equipment:  Johnson gas furnaces, Valley Forge Treadle 
           Hammer, Kuhn Air Hammers

Bjorn Bjorklund, Storvik, Atlantia

 -- SPEED 1.00 [NR]: "Forge all day, dance all night!" - The Dancing Smith
From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Arms, or lack thereof
Date: 5 Dec 92 14:22:59 GMT

Bjalfi wrote:

 D> I guess my question is, does anyone have anything to say to encourage or
 D> discourage this practice?  Why should I have arms at all?  If you think I
 D> should keep arms, either the ones I have or others, why?  If you think I
 D> ought to give up my arms and not take new ones, why?  If there's something
 D> basic I'm missing here, what is it?

 Do it, and bless you.

 Far too many people from non-heraldry-using cultures are under the
 impression that they "gotta have" registered armory. 'Tain't so. I can
 count the number of times I've used mine in the last year on the fingers
 of two hands, mostly because it's on the stationery I use as a CoA
 commentor. If you don't have any use for it, don't clutter up the A&O with
 it. This is a Public Service.

 One deleterious result of people from non-armory-using cultures attempting
 to register armory is that they are unwilling to choose armory from the
 cultural systems that *did* use armory, but rather want to drag in
 something that suggests (or screams) their culture. This leads to a steady
 undertow of intrusion of non-heraldic elements into SCA heraldry that any
 objective observer could not fail to classify as a Bad Thing. We've had
 people try to register designs from Chinese and Persian art, Egyptian
 heiroglyphics, Aztec carving symbols, and God knows what all -- and far
 too often the "let's be inclusive" crowd in the CoA lets them get away
 with it. Ah'm agin it.

 I think your idea is excellent, and strongly encourage you (after sober
 reflection - who knows? You might be King some day...) to carry through
 with it.

    Tadhg, Obelisk
From: Bjorn@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bjorn)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: New to this stuff
Date: 7 Dec 92 21:29:10 GMT

Guinevere (Debbie Lewis) is on Fidonet node (1:109/114.0)
Zonzr - The Alien BBS in Fairfax, Va
 
Since you are calling to Fairfax, VA to connect to this echo,
I'll give you a contact number in Northern VA, which is the
Barony of Ponte Alto.  Tell them Bjorn sent you.

  Ken & Sue Reed              Niall MacKennit &
  2931 Fairmont St.           Teleri Telgellawg 
  Falls Church, VA. 22042     (703)560-8825

Sue runs a weekly get-to-gather called the Ladies Sewing
Circle and Terrorist Society.

If you aren't able to contact them, then try

     Marsha Goodell              Winifred Corbet
  7135 Leesburg Pike          de Winterwood
  Falls Church, VA. 22043     (703)533-8224

If you aren't calling from Northern Virginia, then please
post your location.  (A complete address is not necessary.)

Bjorn Bjorklund, Storvik, Atlantia / Rich Bjorklund, Bowie, Maryland
(301) 262-5142 (before 9pm)

 -- SPEED 1.00 [NR]: "Forge all day, dance all night!" - The Dancing Smith
From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Senior heralds
Date: 5 Dec 92 13:49:22 GMT

DP>  TOA> Senior Heralds quite often have strange wants ... as *you* 
 DP>  TOA> should know by now....

 DP>  Yeah, I've been hanging around senior heralds too long.
 DP>  I think it's starting to rub off on me, because I have
 DP>  this strange desire to spend New Year's Eve working on
 DP>  the OP.

Oh, I could think of something better than *that* that you could do.

 DP> (I also have a desire to bash my computer to
 DP>  bits, but I don't think that's strange at all.)

I do ... but, then, I *like* these machines....
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 9 Dec 92 01:52:00 GMT

JG>OBI BBS in Orange Park, FL is proud to be carrying this echo!

JG>--- GEcho/beta
JG> * Origin: OBI BBS (1:112/92)

  Great J'aime.  BTW, I tried to send you those messages and couldn't
  connect with your board last week.
    Later, Marv

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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Latest Missing ?
Date: 9 Dec 92 01:59:00 GMT

WM>Hi Marv:

WM>         Do you know what the latest File # is on Missing.Zip ?

WM>   (@)1992, "us"
WM>                                     *  Walt Mateja  *

WM> ---
WM>    WinQwk 2.0b#267   WE ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN--BY A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE! 
:-)
WM>    SFMail Qwk v3.0

WM>--- SFScan v2wb/3
WM> * Origin: The "us" Project, BBS * (302)529-1650 * (1:150/420.0)

  Walt, CHILD35.ZIP is the highest package distributed.  542.GIF,
 David Gomez Morrow of Richardson, TX is the last GIF.
    CHILDMIS.ZIP is the file that now carries the listing of Missing
    Child GIFs and CHILDFND.ZIP is the list of found children.

   Later, Marv

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From: George@fquest.FidoNet.Org (George)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: RE: Arms, or lack thereof
Date: 4 Dec 92 05:54:46 GMT

Bjalfi writes:

> I guess my question is, does anyone have anything to say to encourage or
> discourage this practice?  Why should I have arms at all?  If you think I
> should keep arms, either the ones I have or others, why?  If you think I
> ought to give up my arms and not take new ones, why?  If there's something
> basic I'm missing here, what is it?

While your persona almost certainly have or use arms (i.e.,_heraldic_arms_)
back in the "old country", he now spends at least some of his time in
<fill-in-your-Kingdom-name-here>, where there is a quaint custom/mania
called heraldry, open to all to use or not as they please.  I see no
reason to _avoid_ using armorial bearings due to one's persona's place of
origin, just as I see no reason to mandate their use by everyone regardless
of their persona's place of origin.

Just my two cents.

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Jeremy de Merstone       George J Perkins    perkins@msupa.pa.msu.edu
 North Woods, MidRealm    East Lansing, MI    perkins@msupa (Bitnet)
From: Russell.Coombs@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Russell Coombs)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Gifs
Date: 10 Dec 92 01:57:00 GMT

Looking for a dual standard who has all the current gifs,I have a sysop
from 110/280 looking for a system to get the gif packets from,will have to
speak to him to see what his highest baud rate is and what type..
For now just let me know what packet your up to and your baud rate.
                    Thanks..
From: Wayne@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Wayne)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Persona's married name
Date: 3 Dec 92 22:17:13 GMT

She should be told that it was not the norm in most places and at most times
of our period for a married woman to take her husband's surname. If she
wants to do it right, she should research such practices in her time and
place.
                            Gawain
From: Brian.Rueger@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Brian Rueger)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 1STDAYS
Date: 7 Dec 92 03:52:00 GMT

MO>Sorry  about that.  We have new people leaving messages and we are
MO>working to get them to leave messages in the right area.  When I replied
MO>I did not even think about the area I was in.  Again I will get the
MO>problem straightened out.  Thanks.....

MO>mike


 No problem Mike.
   Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: thomas@fquest.FidoNet.Org (thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: fighting heralds and such
Date: 4 Dec 92 22:04:07 GMT

Master Talan Gwynek, Fauze Lozenge Herald, Ex-Dragon Herald fights, so does
 Mastert
er Da'ud, former Laurel KoA. I heard Da'ud joke about a unit of fighting
heralds
who would go around bashing fighters who had unregistered arms, or ugly
devices
on their shields:).
        If you don't mind getting you leather chewed up by basket hilts, you c
could tool it with you arms and use it as a shield cover. Period shields were
laminated wood, covered by painted, embossed leather. Look at the shield with
the achievement of arms of the Black Prince (I believe a picture is included
in
 t
the Oxford Guide to Heraldry ) - gorgeous!

Lothar \|/
        0
From: Joshua@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Joshua)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: pheon as badge
Date: 7 Dec 92 20:18:47 GMT

Lothar did write:
 > Some months back, Thorvald Redhair, Dragon Principal Herald, attempted to
 >  register:
 >
 >         (Fieldless), Per Pale, Argent and Gules a Pheon.
 >
 > It came into conflict with:
 >
 >         (Fieldless), Tinctureless, a pheon (Badge of King/Queen of England)
 >
 > As I remember, one use of this badge was to mark trees that were going to
be
 cut
 >  for the Royal Navy for masts.

Oh, yes,the "broad arrow".  Silly of me to have forgotten.  (Those darned
mundane royalty get all the good stuff!)

                        ---Simon
From: Greg.Naber@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Greg Naber)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: 09-10-92 (00:20) gifs
Date: 6 Dec 92 03:08:24 GMT

Hello there Kristal!

In a Ditty of <Thursday December 03 1992>, Kristal Andes says to Eric Lode:

 KA>      I have two files CHILDMIS.ZIP and CHILDFND.ZIP which are compressed
 KA>    text files containing the list of all of the children we have
 KA>    distributed GIFs on and those that have been found.  I would be happy

Actually Kristal, that was a rather old message, but besides that, for any
usenet/internet users, the gifs are stored on halcyon.com (IP: 192.135.191.2)
available for ftp and the file names are converted to ascii text files, that
are not in zipped format, with the following names of:

003-CHILDREN-FOUND-LIST
003-CHILDREN-LOST-LIST

Unix allows file names longer than 8dot3 and by having the file name start with
0 and being in caps, it makes the names show up at the top of the list of gif
files while doing an ls -l (which is equivelent to dos's dir command).

Catch Ya Later!

Greg

... The telephone will ring when you are outside!
From: Mark.Eric.Stein@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mark Eric Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: crown (was gazettes)
Date: 8 Dec 92 20:41:54 GMT

MES> in a second term, I didn't ask why....

 D> So we are about to have a new Brigantia? Any idea who?

About, as in a year from Twelfth Night. He's accepting applications for his
successor, I have no idea who's interested. If anybody listened to me, I'd
try to draft Harold von Auerbach...but nobody does, so I won't.

Yrs &c.
        Marco
From: Joshua@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Joshua)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Appelgarth
Date: 3 Dec 92 17:16:47 GMT

"Cecily de Catton" writes:
 > For what it's worth, a place called Applegarth really exists in North
 > Yorkshire.  The first element appears in a form of ca. 1160 as Appel,
 > although the second doesn't change from -gard to -garth until 1228.
 > See Ekwall, p. 11, under Applegarth.
 > Sorry for not combining this with the earlier post on the meaning of
 > the word garth.  I don't have my own terminal, so I had to logoff before
 > going out to Reference for Ekwall.

Given this, I'd be very annoyed if a name of the form "so-and-so of
Appelgarth" was rejected.  I'm not sure what I think about "House
Appelgarth".

                        ---Simon

p.s.  does anyone know if the submitter was aware of the connection with
Merlin, by the way?
From: Wayne@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Wayne)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: E-mail
Date: 3 Dec 92 22:15:23 GMT

I for one, would not find it convenient to send commentary by this route.
Not only do I compose my letters on my system at home (where the books are),
but I could not even transfer them by sneakernet. I work on an Apple II,
while this machine is messy-dos. I am sure that the volume of commentary
would raise administrative eyebrows when it came in here also. My present
use of e-mail is pretty near the limit of volume to keep the desired low
profile. I also feel that as long as everyone on the CoA mailing list does
not have access, that we should continue with the present system, slower
though it may be.
                        Gawain of Miskbridge
                        Green Anchor Herald
From: George@fquest.FidoNet.Org (George)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: RE: Arms, or lack thereof
Date: 4 Dec 92 06:07:03 GMT

I wrote:

>While your persona almost certainly have or use arms (i.e.,_heraldic_arms_)
>back in the "old country",

Oops --- obviously this should say "certainly *didn't* have or use"...
clumsy typing strikes again.

Jeremy de Merstone/George J Perkins
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:09:00 GMT

JG>OBI BBS has been shaky for a while.  Seems that the message base likes to
  >scramble itself....  interesting reading, unless you are trying
to find a
  >real message.  None of the messages match the headers!  *grin*  I just love
  >being a sysop!  Thanks for your effort and bear with us.  We are trying to
  >hang in without giving in to the urge to toss the computer out into the
yard

JG>--- GEcho/beta
  > * Origin: OBI BBS (1:112/92)

  No problem J'aime.  Let me know and I will send the the message area
dump to you.
   Later, Marv


 * QMPro 1.0 40-6074 * Children Deserve to Feel Safe And Be Free
From: Donna.Elam@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Donna Elam)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 5 Dec 92 11:12:00 GMT


 >   This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this
 > echo seems to
 >   have subsided I would like to know how many participants
 > we have.
 >   Also any suggestions or tips?
 >     Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator

 >  * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe


 > --- WM v2.04/92-0131
 >  * Origin: HEIDI Search Center BBS 210-659-2305 Univ. City
 > TX(1:387/622)

  Hi Marv,
 I'm still here.

  Take care,
  Donna