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From: noe@cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:52:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BxwJ8A.KJu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Comp Sci, Urbana, IL

In article <1992Nov12.105126.2709@mdcbbs.com> rivero@mdcbbs.com (Michael Rivero) writes:
>Exterior filming on Jurassic park took place on the Hawaiian
>island of Kauai. The cast and crew were staying on the Eastern edge of
>the island....  Filming had ended just the day
>before hurricane Iniki slashed across the landscape. As the eye of
>the hurricane passed overhead, Spielburg and other brave souls stepped
>outside to experience the strange calm and exotic clouds that inhabit the eye
>of a hurricane.

Either this story is apocryphal or Spielberg flew toward the west
coast of Kauai as Iniki approached (yeah, right).  I've got satellite
photos of Iniki that show the eye didn't come anywhere near Lihue or
other parts of eastern Kauai.  The photos make it look like Iniki was
almost tracking up Waimea Canyon.
--
Roger Noe                            noe@cs.uiuc.edu
Department of Computer Science       40:06:39 N.  88:13:41 W.
University of Illinois               (217) 244-6173
Urbana, IL  61801  USA
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Dracula
Keywords: minor spoilers
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:46:43 GMT

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Well, I was certainly disappointed.  I went and saw "Dracula" on Saturday.
It was still $6 to get in -no matinee prices here.  It wasn't worth it.
It wasn't scarey, it wasn't romantic, it was interesting.  The only
worthwhile person was Anthony Hopkins.  Everyone else was blah.  It
wasn't even gross -not like Silence of the Lambs.  My nephew and his
friend -15 and 10- were bored.  I think the editing wasn't done very
well.  It just seemed weird -what did dancing in the rain and Lucy and
Mina's kiss have to do with the subject?  The race at the end to the
Count's castle wasn't even exciting.

Frank Langella has nothing to worry about.  Even the version with
Louis Jordan was better.  The Dracula Tapes and the Holmes/Dracula Files
by Fred Saberhagen would have made a better movie -of course, if it
were handled right!

My scale is "will I see this movie again?"  I like to see movies that
I enjoy several times.  Lethal Weapon(s) 5, Star Wars and Return of the
Jedi were both around 25.  I won't go back to see this one or rent it,
either.  I like scarey horror movies, I like vampire and werewolf movies
or books.  This was really quite a let down.

The best parts for me:  the shadows on the wall, the Count in the monster
shape while Mina was in Dr. Seward's office, any scene with Anthony Hopkins,
Dracula Castle seen from afar.

Okay, I'm getting a thick skin.  Flame me, go ahead.

margaret@cs.arizona.edu

"Blood is thicker than water, and it taste's better, too."
From: victor.volkman@hal9000.UUCP (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: RE: MOVIES WORSE THAN ROC
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, (313)663-4173, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9000.UUCP (Victor Volkman) 

-> You watched it on video tape, didn't you.  See RHPS in a theatre and
-> you'll understand.

You won't be able to hear anything over the hundred screaming a---holes
in the theatre.  Some fun.  For an adolescent, maybe.
                                   
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From: simon@wotangate.sc.ti.com (Jean-Yves Simon)
Subject: Re: the big blue
Reply-To: simon@wotangate.sc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:17:58 GMT

In article 3143@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu, canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson) writes:

>So, how many versions are there?  The version I recorded off of US cable
>TV (about 3 years ago) ends with Jaques swimming away into the big blue.  It 
>also has a Bill Conti soundtrack.  I've never seen the "happy ending" version 
>(what a horrible thing to do that movie).
>

I think there were 3 versions, I cannot speak for sure for Europe but in France, we got two.
In the second one called "version longue", some scenes were added. These two versions have the
music of Eric Serra. The posters were differents also, in the second version, more dolphins
were swimmong near Jacques Mayol.

The third version is the US version, with a different ending and a different music.


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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:19:46 GMT

In article <BxtIqu.3u2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup) writes:
|> Would love to know of other movies he has been in.  Just rented "84
|> Charing Cross Road" which was nice.  And will be seeing "Dracula" at
|> some point.  Have seen "Silence of the Lambs".    Any suggestions/
|> reviews would be very welcomed.... thanks.
|> 

THE BUNKER!  THE BUNKER!  THE BUNKER!!!

Hopkins' best performance in my opinion. Would you rather see Hopkins play a
fictional psychopath, ie Hannibal the Cannibal, or a REAL psychopath, ie Adolf
Hitler in "The Bunker." Hopkins plays Hitler's last month or so of life when he's
holed up in a Berlin bunker, waiting for the Russians to finish him off. It is a
truly fascinating performance. I was mesmerized the whole 2 or 3 hours (I forgot
how long it was). Anyway, does anyone know if this is available on videotape?

Also check him out in QBVII (that's QB-7 in American), where he plays an
ex-concentration camp doctor trying to atone for the sins of his past.

I also thought he was really good in "MAGIC," "The Elephant Man," and "Mussolini
and I." Look for an early screen performance by him in "The Lion in Winter" where
he plays Richard the Lionheart (It's not often you see actors like Hopkins and
Timothy Dalton talking about having sex with each other).

By the way, how many of you knew that Hopkins and Richard Burton grew up in the
same small Welsh coal-mining town together?

Anthony
From: tgoodman@phakt.usc.edu (Theodore Goodman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP--NOT!
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:30:26 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


> Lucy was very prim and proper in the
> novel.  I would have liked to have seen more of a seduction of her
> "Victorian decency," but they chose to make her "vamp" to start off with.

  I thought Lucy was an excellent complement to Mina.  Lucy approaches
sexuality one way, willingly, and Mina is more repressed.  Instead of two
prim and proper ladies, which would have been redundant, the story in the film
explores the theme from two different angles.
  (I should admit, however, that I have only read the screenplay, not seen the
-- 
  Theodore Goodman / tgoodman@usc.edu
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Calling all film experts: name this film
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:59:28 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens

In article <1992Nov23.044818.10567@oakhill.sps.mot.com> hunter@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Hunter Scales) writes:

>	is an autombile ride from the city to the country.  The car pulls
>	off the side of the road, overlooking a valley.  There is a cabin
>	in the valley below.  The woman gets out of the car and looks
>	down at the cabin straining to see a person standing next to 
>	a car by the cabin.  The camera changes viewpoint.  We are now
>	down at the cabin and the same woman is looking up at the ridge
>	straining to see the person standing beside the car!

>	back to the city.  On the way there, she sees her husband in the road
>	and runs over him.  Getting back to the flat, however, he is there!

>Motorola Semiconductor Inc.             Hunter Scales
>Austin, Texas                           hunter@prometheus.sps.mot.com
>#include <disclaimer.h>


I would also like to know what this movie was titled.

Hunter Scales

Motorola Semiconductor Inc.             Hunter Scales
Austin, Texas                           hunter@prometheus.sps.mot.com
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From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Subject: Re: R.F.Burton's 1001 Arabian Nights in Dracula (was OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.154653.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu>, bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
|> In article <BxtL5C.HB8@inews.Intel.COM>, mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain 
|> (Maria Douglas ) writes:
|>
|> > Fourth, why were there pictures from the Kama Sutra in the book 
|> > "1001 Arabian Nights"?
|> 
|> Translated (shown right there on the cover) by the one, the only...
|> Richard Francis Burton!!!  He was indeed the Victorian adventurer/
|> spy/linguist/duelist/translator that brought both the Kama Sutra and
|> 1001 Arabian Nights to the western world.
|> 
|> My guess is that the original 1001 AN was very different than the well 
|> known sanatized/cencored version, and did in fact contain many secrets
|> of eroticism, OR they decided to merge the two of them together (since they
|> both were translated originally by Burton).

There were at least two versions of the Arabian Nights available in Britain
during the late Victorian era. One was the Burton translation, which I
believe was "complete"; the other had been edited rather than offend the
readers' sensibilities. Burton's translation, of course, only served to
further his notoriety. For more info, read one of the many Burton
biographies available.

-- 
Robert B. Schmunk <schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu>
SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA
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between their leader and a circus with elephants.
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From: Richard.Dalton@newcastle.ac.uk (Richard Dalton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Highlander 3? Ye Gods, NO!
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:46:00 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

mason writes:

>In article <1992Nov23.042911.12177@athena.cs.uga.edu>
>troy@athena.cs.uga.edu (Troy Johnson) writes:
> 
>>NO, NO, NO!
>>
>>After that ABOMINATION, please tell me that the post saying there is going
>>to be a Highlander 3 was just some cruel joke.  Or at least, someone
>>please console me by saying that they are going to just ignore all this
>>Zeist nonsense.  Highlander was a classic and the TV series actually has
>>some potential if it survives the censors, but not another so-called movie
>>that chops the original plot line to pieces.  Could someone please fill me
>>in on this Highlander 3: The Vanishing?  Gods, even the title sounds silly.
> 
>I've been hearing rumors of a third Highlander movie since the second
>one left the theatre.  Unfortunately, I have no confirmation.  I've
>heard, though, that it was to be titled "Highlander 3, the Magician".
> 
>I do hope they ignore Highlander 2.  I have this dream/idea that the
>third movie should begin with Lambert and Connery in directors' chairs
>on a black screen.  "We apologize to our audience for the abomination
>that was 'the Quickening', and would like to proceed with this film
>as though it had never been made.  We hope you enjoy Highlander 3, the
>(??), as much as the original.  Thank you."  It has the advantage of
>never having been done before, anyway.
> 
>There should have been only one.
> 

I saw an interview with the Highlander himself (I *don't* know his name! *8^)
on TV a few months ago, and he said that he was already working on 
Highlander 3, prepare yourselves folks.

	Rich 'Z'

There can be only one!





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 Email: Richard.Dalton@Newcastle.ac.uk  |   University of Newcastle Upon Tyne
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From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: why the hang-up on NC17?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:56:55 GMT

> > Please don't confuse the R and NC-17 ratings.  NC-17 is simply a
> > renaming of the X rating, no-one allowed under age 17 ...
> 
> which is exactly the same (except it's under 18's not allowed, rather than
> under 17's) as the 'R' (or '18') rating in Canada.  We don't have a rating
> which only allows minors in if they are accomp'ed by an adult, such as
> *your* 'R' rating.  This was my entire point.

Canada does not *have* a national system of film censorship or classific-
ation.  This is under provincial jurisdiction; the feds only get involved
if something is deemed obscene and thus banned outright.  In the past
films have also been banned at the provincial level.

The above remarks presumably refer to the Ontario system, since the
poster is in Ontario.  Indeed we don't have an exact equivalent of the US
"R" here, but we do have "AA" which denies admission to those under 14
unless accompanied by an adult.

> (Many films which would be
> rated 'X' or 'NC17' in the US are given an 'R' ('18') rating in Canada.)

I must disagree.  There *aren't* many films rated NC-17 in the US, and from
what I read in the papers, most of the "traditional hard-core porn" X-films
would be denied a showing here one way or another.  However, it is true
that many films rated *R* in the US get R in Ontario, and thus although
Ontario's R has the same force on viewers as the US's X/NC-17, it does
not have the "taint" of porn.

This posting is intended as a description of the facts as I understand them
and nothing in it, except maybe the signature quote, should be taken as
implying any opinions of mine.
-- 
Mark Brader		  "We may take pride in observing that there is not a
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto	   single film showing in London today which deals with
utzoo!sq!msb		   one of the burning issues of the day."
msb@sq.com		      -- Lord Tyrell, British film censors' chief, 1937

This article is in the public domain.
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From: jcohen@sco.COM (Jon Cohen)
Subject: Test
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:23:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Keywords: test this is


Test
From: anton@cbnewse.cb.att.com (anton.j.panagos)
Subject: Can you identify this horror flick?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:24:33 GMT
Keywords: '50's or '60's movie

When I was a wee pup (a teenager), I saw (what I thought at the time)
a pretty good witch movie on Creature Features on WGN in the late '60's
\(no I'm not THAT old). By the desciption I will give you, can anyone
identify the name of this movie?  Off the top of my head, all
I can think of is a certain title (the try is at the end of the post)

Here is the beginning of the movie:
A young lady checks into a creepy old hotel. She approaches the 
clerk and asks for a room. The clerk who is an old lady?/man?
tells her that there are no rooms upstairs but there is one room
available next to the check-in desk. The lady seeing it is 
miserable outside(rain and lightning), decides on taking the room.
She enters the room, which is in my memory is a large room.
She is checking out the room when she trips over a ridge in the carpet.
Curious to see what 's under the carpet, she pulls the carpet away
and finds a trap door. She opens the trap door. Hesitantly, she 
walks down the steps due to the cellar below. After walking a few
steps, she notices a couple shadows in the distance. They are witches!
And they are calling for her. She is pgrabbed by a couple of them 
and she is placed on a table and she is sacrificed.

The scenario is repeated again, except the second woman knows
what she is getting into because she wants to find out what happened
to the first woman.


My attempt at the title: is it "Horror Hotel"?

And if it is, can someone let me know where I can a video of
it? As far as I know, I have not seen in any video stores I have
visited.

Thanks in advance,

Anton J. Panagos
cbnewse!anton
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, Il.

"...What do you mean I'm funny?"  - Joe Pesci in "Goodfellas"
From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: MC's Jurassic Park (possible SPOILER)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:21:56 GMT

>The whole idea of Spielberg making Jurassic Park is a major disappointment.
>I really can't say that I much enjoyed any of Spielbergs movies and he
>absolutely has no idea how to do a hardcore SF movie. I wish a real director
>or at least someone whose managed to grow up, would get a chance at such
>prime material.
>
>-- 
>
>Roland Besserer
>QUAD Systems
>roland@quadsys.com

I am very sorry to hear this.  I for one rank Spielberg up there with some of the greats: David Lean, George Lucas,...
It is true that "Hook" wasn't all that great but there are always exceptions in a directors success.

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From: hal@radio.wkar.msu.edu (Hal Prentice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Extended versions on T.V.
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:53:37 GMT
Organization: Broadcasting Services, Michigan State University

In article <17517@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins) writes:
>From: Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins)
>Subject: Extended versions on T.V.
>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:56:18 GMT
>This may seem a bit ambitious but I would like to know what movies
>(especially science fiction films) have appeared on television with extra
>footage. I know both Star Trek II and Aliens have been on t.v. with extra
>scenes not included in either the theatrical or video release. If someone
>would be so kind as to document  any of these extended t.v. movies and the
>extra scenes they have, I would be grateful. I'm quite interested in finding
>out what movies I should tape off television. Please E-mail me any bits of
>your knowledge. Thanks.

I remember "Jaws" had some additional footage when shown on network TV.  
There was a bit of controversy about this as the film won an Academy Award 
for best editing and the insertion of the previously cut footage negated 
what's her name's work (I don't recall the editor's name, Verna something, I 
believe.)

Interestingly, another Spielberg film had additional footage when shown on 
network TV (not "Close Encounters.")  "1941" had fairly substantial scenes 
added, particularly in the dance hall sequence.  Penny Marshall (of 
"Laverne and Shirley") figured prominently in the scenes wearing a big "V" 
(for Victory) on her chest a la the big "L" she always displayed on her 
sweaters in "Laverne and Shirley."  In "1941" she was some sort of chaperon 
to the young ladies who came to the club to dance with the soldiers.  As I 
remember no scenes with Penny Marshall were in the theatrical version.

That's all I recall at the moment.

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From: shepa@sersun1 (Shepherd A J)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite Vampire one-liners
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:49:27 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I always loved the final line from "The Lost Boys" myself, where the old man
(Barnard Hughes) after killing off the head Vampire goes to the fridge, takes
out a drink, and says

"That's the trouble with living in santa carla(?) Too many goddamn vampires"

Can't remember the exact name of the town though. But I LOVE this quote!

--
And the dandy isn't sure,		| Antony J. "Doppelganger" Shepherd
If there's a cure for his malaise,	| shepa@essex.ac.uk
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From: machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Machin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula:Sheesh, what a film
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:30:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Stoker DID use Vlad Tepes as the basis for Dracula.  Its never mentioned in
the book but Vlad is definitely the source.
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: First "Dracula" Goof - Minor Spoiler
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:38:19 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <Bxs684.1q7@rahul.net> kent@rahul.net (Kent Talarico) writes:
>I noticed a goof near the end of the credits. Instead of the usual
>"No animals were harmed during the filming" line, it said
>"No animal was harmed" :)

	That isn't a goof.  That is proper English.

>Kent Talarico <kent@rahul.net>
--
gharris@jade.tufts.edu          
George W. Harris              	"He'd kill us if he had the chance."  
Dept. of Mathematics            
Tufts University              			The Conversation  
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From: dejesus@archimedes.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus)
Subject: Re: A DIEHARD Question II
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:30:09 GMT

In article <75254@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>But!  How did HANS know that name?
>
>How did he know that there was someone who worked here named Bill Clay?
>And how did he know that it was on the marquee?

I don't know about you, but Hans struck me as someone who did his homework
and really thought things through beforehand. Memorizing a few names of
people who work there is not too farfetched to believe. And I don't think
he had to know about the marquee to respond with that particular name...

Just my $0.02...
-- 
Francisco X DeJesus  ----- S A I C -----  dejesus@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil
disclaimer: "Opinions expressed here are mine. Typos and errors are all yours."
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From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Subject: Re: Zentropa
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:20:57 GMT

>> NO they did not "run out" of color part way through. If you even payed the 
slightest bit of attention to the movie at the end, you'd realise that it was 
for EFFECT!!!!
>> The whole movie is like a "dream sequence" or something to the effect that 
the main character (I forget his name) id not really in control until color 
comes on at the end when he starts shooting at everyone and yelling and then 
goes to try and dismantle the bomb. THAT is the point - HE'S in control now.
>> A little existentialism goes a long way...........
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From: edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:30:02 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept. of Math.
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The young Normal is played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
I finally realized where I had seen him before.
He plays the boy on the TV series THE POWERS THAT BE.
-- 
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