From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Is George IN the Loop
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:51:01 GMT

In <1992Oct13.210020.16743@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.200933.12903@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:

>>First OFF, I must Agree with Former JCS ADM Crowe

>First off, a friend and I where going over a list of the military
>people who endorsed Clinton. It was amazing how many of them had
>a personal axe to grind with Bush or Reagan. Admiral Truly for example,
>endorses Clinton but was fired by Bush for doing a poor job running NASA.
>The former Chief of Staff for the Air Force endorses Clinton but he was
>fired by Bush for talking about battle plans before Desert Storm. I

Yes, as Dave Barry put it, he was fired for revealing the top secret
information that if the war began, we would bomb Iraq "from planes."
Previously it had been thought that submarines would be used for this purpose.

>believe (but could be wrong about this) that Crowe resigned from the
>Reagan Administration because he wanted a 600 ship Navy and Reagan wouldn't
>give it to him (in other words, he wanted to spend even more on defense
>than Reagan).

No, you're wrong.  He didn't resign from the Reagan Administration -- he
left the *Bush* administration.  And, from his own statement of Oct 13:

---------------
 Given the latest news that the Bush Administration is going to get
 rid of their top economic advisors, I can understand that Marlin
 Fitzwater has become an expert on White House firings.

   However, his suggestion that my endorsement of Governor Clinton
 stems from my being "fired" from my position as Chairman of the Joint
 Chiefs of Staff is dead wrong.

   The facts are that, as my second two-year term was coming to a
 close in 1989, President Bush personally asked me to stay on as
 Chairman.  I was deeply honored to have this vote of confidence from
 the President.  However, I decided that 47 years in uniform was quite
 enough for any man, and I declined the President's offer.

   Marlin Fitzwater was the President's spokesman when all this was
 happening.  The President's efforts to have me stay on were widely
 reported in the press.  I can only conclude that Mr. Fitzwater's
 misstatement of the truth of this situation was deliberate.

   It is precisely this pattern of campaign deception that convinces
 me that my support for Governor Clinton is the right decision for me
 and for the country.
----------------------

>>We KNOW that it is "immoral to demonstrate against one's country
>>when it is at war...." {Read His Lips, Would HE Lie to US?}

>Are you saying he isn't entitled to that opinion?

Yes.  Exercising your first amendment rights is immoral????

>>Why then is it that Nixon, Reagan, AND BUSH, have not even
>>sought a Grand Jury Investigation of this CRIME?

>I don't think Bush has accused Clinton of doing anything illegal
>so a Grand Jury wold be kind of silly woldn't it?

>All Bush is saying is that it shows bad judgment. He also raises the

HOW does it show bad judgement?  What was wrong with it?

>interesting question of why Clinton feels the need to lie about it
>(and every other negative story).

I don't know, maybe the same reason Bush feels the need to lie about
Iran-Contra.  And Iraqgate.  And the WarOnCivilLiberties.

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