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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 15:15:34 EDT
From: Robert Chambers <RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: VN750A2 repair

In article <53943@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt1430a@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeff J McCoskey)
says:
>
>        Recently the alternator on my '86 Vulcan 750 went bad.  According
>to the service manual, two special tools are required to correct this:
>a rotor holder (a spanner wrench affair, sized to the part), and a rotor puller
>(some type of shaft disengager, apparently).  Local shops don't know anything
>about these tools.  Are they really necessary for the job?  If so, any
>low-cost places to get them?  If not, what's a good substitute?  (As you can
>probably tell, I've never done this before.)  Tanks, in advance.

>Jeff J McCoskey        "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book."

More than likely the rotor holder is a device that will hold the part you
intend to remove still while you undo the nut that holds it on the shaft.
If you can't find something that will suffice to hold the rotor (or flywheel)
still you can sometimes get away with binding it up with a rag or a wooden
wedge... or having a muscular friend hold it... Just don't break anything.

The rotor puller or sprocket puller or flywheel puller is a device which
basically attaches to the rotor/sprocket/flywheel (hereinafter referred
to as the 'thing') and pulls on it while pushing against the shaft it
sits on.

Normally its either a disk or bar with a long bolt running through the
center (which pushes against the shaft) and two or more smaller bolts/screws
that attach to the 'thing'.  When the middle bolt is turned into the shaft
it causes the smaller ones to pull against the 'thing'  When there is
sufficient pressure built up, a slight whack with a hammer against the
middle bolt will usually free the 'thing' from the shaft.

The other style are similar except they don't have the smaller screws
that attach but 'legs' with toes on the end of them that slide under
the 'thing'.. this is the kind I use, but they are useless if your 'thing'
is inside casing or has no room at the base for the toes to go under.

Good luck!

Robert
DoD 191
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD MOUSE
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:33:38 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 4033@swmerc.rain.com, ralph@swmerc.rain.com (Ralph Merwin) writes:

>In Real Life (tm), Real Men (tm) use ed.

Excuse me?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andersen@che.udel.edu (From the jumbled mind of Steve Andersen)
Subject: DoD Gif Server
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Delaware/Department of Chemical Engineering
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:40:00 GMT

Could someone please post the internet address of the
DoD ftp GIF server?

I can't find it...



______________________________________________________________________________
 Steve Andersen                                   andersen@oscar.ccm.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 "I own two bikes, brand unimportant"  -- Jeff Kaskey 
 DoD #0239
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Sticking clutch plate
Keywords: clutch
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:56:04 GMT

bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <67@devl3.UUCP> root@devl3.UUCP (Super user) writes:
>>I have a 1981 XS1100 yamaha.  Every time the bike sets for more than a
>>couple of hours, the clutch plate sticks.

>> If I try to start the bike with the transmission
>>in gear, it causes the bike to lurch violently forward for a couple of
>>feet until the clutch plate comes unstuck.

>I have it with my FJ a bunch.  There is nothing to do about it.  Get into
>the habit of putting the bike in neutral, letting the clutch out and rocking
>the bike a bit to see if she's stuck.  If so, a goog serious push will
>break the stick.  Of course you do this all _before_ you start the bike.

My FJ does it a bit, but nothing nearly as bad as that two foot lunge,
more like a couple of inches. Switching to Mobil-1 synthetic reduced it
greatly.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Rotax (was: Re: RE: WHAT TO CALL A HA)
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:17:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.205626.10363@Cadence.COM> alastair@Cadence.COM
(Alastair Young) writes:

>Rotax are Austrian. They are alive and well. Their 500cc motorcycle 
>engine has appeared in Armstrong, Jawa and Matchless machines and most 
>recently in an MZ.

Did they make the flat-4 disc valve two-stroke that Bombardier
used in their street bike prototype?
--

	Chuck Karish		karish@mindcraft.com
	(415) 323-9000		karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Being pulled over (was: Re: another gripe about pigs)
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:24:57 GMT

In <1992Mar23.214408.28862@sol.UVic.CA> spindler@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca
(SPINDLER) writes:

   FYI:  in Victoria, if you are going through a routine police 
   roadblock on a motorcycle you WILL be stopped, whether or not you are 
   the n'th vehicle through (or whatever the selection criteria are).  
   [...]  The cops were polite to me in each case too.

It's been a long time since a traffic cop has been a real jerk to me,
as opposed to the "well, you must be a jerk to give me a ticket for
this" kind of jerk.  I'm pretty polite to them, too, even going so far
as to remove my helmet and mask at 10degrees Fahrenheit so they can
see I'm not trying to hide anything.

"How are you this evening?" asks an officer.
"Cold.  Too cold to be taking this off."
"Well, who asked you to take it off?"

Sigh.  

Actually, as soon as I left I was bothered by the whole incident for
another reason.  I am not thrilled about this sort of detainment.  I
am appalled at how easily --- eagerly, even --- I submitted myself,
above and beyond the call of even what the officers wanted.  A
conflict between my philosophies, ideologies and instincts.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood)
Subject: Re: Harley 883 owners, I need your opinions!!!
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:06:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.133946.26077@cs.brown.edu> jdk@cs.brown.edu (Jennet Kirschenbaum) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.132006.25909@cs.wayne.edu> pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood) writes:
>>In article <6503@shodha.enet.dec.com> kenoyer@sfcpmo.enet.dec.com (Greg Kenoyer, Contract Spook) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>In article <4558@unccvax.uncc.edu>, mpd@unccvax.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis)
>>>>
>>>>   An '883' would require some slight mods to make me totally happy though.  I
>>>>
>>> [Tretise on building a whole 'nother bike deleted]
>>
>> [Paniacal ranting surgically striked]
>
>What?  As an owner of an 1989 883 I can't understand what you mean.

Oh, sorry, I didn't think that Harleyfolk c^Hwould respond.  Lemme use
smaller words...

Rice bike bad.  Hog good.  Hog need parts always (damn, two syllables),
er, must fix Hog all the time?  Not good.  Me sad.  Tell me ain't so.

-- 
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966	
	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk
From: jsw@umiacs.umd.edu (Jeff Webber)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yet another way to get killed...
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:32:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742


>C09615BT@WUVMD (Brad Thone) writes:
>I don't know why they're there, but on some overpasses on highways, there
>are single 1-2" wide steel grooves running parallel to traffic flow.

That is a very small expansion joint.   For those that are familiar
with the Washington Beltway (I495) we have them around the Silver-Spring
area.   Specifically the Georgia ave. overpass.

One summer night I was riding home from school, the road was still
wet from an evening thunder storm.   I was just droning around the
beltway when my wheels hit this groove thing.   The bike went into
a violent oscillation.   A Tank-Slapper was going real well.   I
was sure I was going to fall when it all of sudden straightened
out.   I got bruised by bike parts during the violent oscillation.

I have noticed that sometime recently the state put up a sign with a
symbol of a motorcycle and below it states:

	Open expansion joints left two lanes.

Its nice to see a mc specific warning.   Perhaps it caused a fall?

-- 
Jeff Webber /   U of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
path: uunet!mimsy!jsw  phone (301)-405-6746 jsw@umiacs.umd.edu  DoD #243
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Greg LeMond on Summer Olympics Team USA?
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:49:43 GMT

ldoming@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Lawrence Domingo) writes:
>So would Greg LeMond be able to race for the USA in the bicycling event?

Would he be riding for Honda, Yamaha, or Harley-Davidson?

Maybe it's time to start looking at the message headers and stop
cross-posting messages between rec.moto and rec.bike?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: JUMP START WITH CAR?
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> I haven't had any problems doing this with my Seca Turbo

 YEGODZ!  Another Seca Turbo owner!

 You *did* disable the wastegate, didn't you?  Pumps up the boost from
5psi to 15psi, where the popoff valve in the airbox opens.
Yamaha-authorized modification too.

 You wouldn't happen to need any Turbo chassis or body parts, would you?
I have some left over after transplanting the turbo stuff onto my new
'83 Seca 900.
                                                                                          
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Message-Id: <MdsTMwi00j_j1F1i8k@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue,  7 Apr 92 15:21:32 -0400 
From: Dale.James@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Tires scalloping.

So I finally got this GS1100 back together, and I'm looking at the tires.
There's still plenty of tread left, but the front tire (a Dunlop Sport Elite)
is strangely scalloped.  What might cause this?  Tire out of balance?  Sticky
brake disk on one side?  Bad fork seals (I know they are bad, but might that
cause the tire to scallop?)?

Thanks in advance!

peace,
--dale
Dale James, DoD #0229
`This is Pennsylvania.  Love it or....oh, hell.  Wait for me!'
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD speed limit or target? (was Re: It's gradually getting louder?!?)
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:03:29 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 2801298@locus.com, dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>
>  If there is a *limit*, I'd like to know.

300,000,000 meters per second. 

Not just a good idea...  IT'S THE LAW!!!!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: BWM Helmet & Visor Query
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:07:13 GMT

In article <kukll9INN3gu@spim.mips.com> jrg@mips.com (John Galloway) writes:
>Someone mentioned a new BMW helmet (not available in the US, mailorder from
>Canada) that is full coverage but has a swingable chin section?  Is this
>for real, whats the scoop?
>
>Secondly are there any workable systems for keeping two (clear and tinted
>presumably) visors or face plates on the same helmet?  I find in my car I
>tend to take my sunglasses off an on a fair amount (particularly since I
>like pretty dark glasses, but then when the clouds come out..), obviously
>this will get a bit more tricky when I get my bike.

Yes, the BMW helmet with the swingable chin bar is real.  They have been 
available for about ten years.  (Check out the bobsledders on this past
winter olympics.)  The first was called the BMW Helmet System.  Improvements
lead to the BMW Helmet System II.  Outrageous product liability in the USA
lead to the BMW System III being withheld from this market.  Call or visit
BMW (motorcycle) dealers for photos and maybe new old stock helmets to
see/buy.  If you hang out for a while, sooner or later a BMW rider will
stop by wearing a BMW helmet.

There is no system that BMW offers to use 2 shields.  Originally, they
offered a duck-billed "visor" thing which required removal of the chin bar
to install.  It was for off road.  I bought one as a curiousity when I 
bought my (first) System I in 1983.

Consider a couple of options.  Put a strip of duct tape about 1" wide 
across the top of the shield.  This can serve as a sort of a sun visor.  
Alternatively, purchase some "photoactive" sun glasses.  B&L offered 
"Ambermatics" which may still be available.  There are "Serengeti Drivers" 
available at better sunglass stores everywhere.  These glasses will become 
dark in direct sunlight and become less tinted in "the dark."  Folks with 
these type of sunglasses, like me, swear by them.  In fact, I wear my 
Ambermatics in the city at night because they cut down the glare of the 
street lights.  

One word of caution, photoactive lenses must be "broken in" or "seasoned" 
before they begin to react "quickly."  This is accomplished by putting them 
in bright, direct sunlight for several hours.  At least that's what they
told me at the Sunglass Hut.  My Ambermatics which are five years old seem
to me to change a lot faster now then they did when new.  But then again
maybe that's a psycho-optic-rememberance effect.  Are there any photochromic
lens experts out there which can comment on this?
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (The Missing Link)
Subject: Note of Appreciation
Originator: mick@maxine.wpi.edu
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:15:02 GMT


	hi all,

	i did some more poking around on cerritos.edu in the hope of
	avoiding asking stupid questions. first off i must say that
	bruce tanner is doing a real great job. i dont know who wrote up
	the faq but it was very informative. thanks to that person too.
	thanks too to dances with bikers (seen hotshot the movie ??) for
	his dod faq...

	hell ... i am going soft !!!

	one question for which i could not find an answer: how does one
	order DoD stuff ? is it possible ?

	happy riding,

	- ravi


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Dean Cookson)
Subject: Re: Any Interest in DoD Caps?
X-Post-Machine: victoria.scl.cwru.edu
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 18:05:32 GMT

In article <6313@public.BTR.COM> jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:
>
>Oh. Caps for your *head*. I though he meant caps to hold beer also, but hold
>it in bottles. Would make a nice addition to the DoD labels I'm trying to
>get printed for the homebrew. Oh well.
>

Ahh, now there's an idea.  DoD Homebrew...  Lessie I could fill one
saddle bag with clothes, and the other with bottles...  And if someone
would loan me a washing machine at the FEED...


Dean
--
| Dean Cookson / DoD #207        / "You don't make beer, you get everything  |
| Case Western Reserve University   / together as best you can, and let the  |
| Dept. of Computer E. and Science     / beer make itself"  -- Fritz Maytag  |
| Cleveland, Oh. 44106 / (216) 754-1834   / '81 CB750C / '88 Bianchi Limited |
From: ops@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: BMW R65 Tyres/Tanks and Handlebars
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:59:47 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

Two questions.........or maybe three.....

1.  Whats the largest rear tyre I can put on my R65 without fouling the 
    swinging arm ??


2.  How come BMW use a slightly narrower tube for their handle bars and
    does anyone out there know what the actual diameter is ??
   

3.  Are BMW tanks interchangable ?(I wince every time I set eyes on my
    R65's tank and something like an R80/R100 tank although not perfect
    has gotta be better.Best of all would be a Z750 L1 tank but I can't 
    get hold of one!)

                                        Johnny-X
                                        BSA A65 '66  
                                        BSA M20 '39
                                        BSA M21  ??
                                        Panther M120 '61
                                        BMW R65 '79
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:40:01 GMT

phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.203036.13568@eos.arc.nasa.gov> I wrote:
>Stone, you ignorant pus-bag, you don't know shaft effect from suspension
>compression!

Hey, aren't you being a bit hard on this Stone guy? :-)

>So Hesh says that shaft effect lifts the entire chassis up under acceleration,
>not just the front.  I've only noticed the front-lifting part of it, and
>actually managed to convince myself that the back end was compressing and
>biting more.

>Could someone more knowlegeable in motofizzix please clarify?

I ain't gonna touch the fizziks, but as an interested spectator, I can
say that one of the more amusing things I've seen is a (non-Paralever)
BMW under full acceleration. As the bike is given the gas, it lifts both
the front & rear ends. Then when the throttle is rolled off at each
shift, both ends compress. And then they suddenly extend again as the bike
accelerates in the next gear. With the typical soft, long travel BMW
suspension, the overall effect is rather impressive. I'm just trying to
decide if it looks more like a grasshopper, or one of those spring-
loaded pony toys. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:43:13 GMT
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Apr10.133857.2641@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>
>The simplest explanation I've heard is that it's just the pinion gear
>trying to climb the ring gear. Since the wheel can't be forced down
>below ground level, the rear end of the bike gets jacked up.
>

This would be absolutely true, except for one little detail that sinks it
completely: the pinion _can't_ climb the ring.  Reason: the final drive
assembly is rigid and holds all the pieces in a fixed relationship.  The
force that makes the pinion try to climb the ring doesn't move the swingarm --
it simply bends/twists the drive assembly material by the tiniest amount.
Tiny, because the material's elastic constant (force/deformation) is
pretty high.  I might have the definition upside down (PHY 101 was a long
time ago), but that doesn't change the argument.  The explanation I posted
would stand even if all materials were perfectly rigid.

>The "BMW Twist" is something completely seperate from shaft drive
>jacking, and it's caused by torque reaction of the crank & clutch. On
>the Honda CX500 and GoldWing the clutch spins in the opposite direction
>from the crank to try and cancel out this reaction.

This is a completely different twist from the one I mentioned.  I was talking
about loading a rigid member with force and causing it to flex.  Since the
flexing I was talking about is in a twisting direction, I called it 'twist'.

You're talking about the bike's angular motion as a result of the angular
acceleration of the engine's flywheel.

Oh, and the CX500's counter-rotating clutch doesn't do diddly to
counteract that big, heavy alternator rotor.  I know.

Now, can anyone explain how the paralever minimizes shaft jacking?

>-- 
>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
>DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200

David Wise (DoD#427, davewi@orca.wv.tek.com, Packy -- 1980 CX500C)