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From: abrodnik@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: Recorder CDs
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:59:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.233605.11215@news.Hawaii.Edu> mike@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mike W. Burger) writes:
>
>	I checked out our university library to see if I could find
>an example of what a recorder could really do.  I found two CD's
>featuring Michala Petri playing sonatas opposite a harpsichord.
>	They are rather astounding.  One is Philips CD 412 632-2 PH
>of Vivaldi, Corelli, Marchello Recorder Sonatas with George Malcolm
>on Harpsichord.  The other is material from Handel and I do not have
>the number here.
>
>  Anyway, they blew my socks off!  This must be ARS level XII :-)
>
>	Does anyone have any other info on Michala Petri?

Ok, here we go. I have a CD where she and her student Elisabeth Selin
are performing Telemann's six Sonatas for two recorders. The CD is
published by RCA (7903-2-RC). Yes, they are excellent.

Anyway, on covers of booklet are also three other records (CDs?)
mentioned. On one she is playing with "I solisti Veneti" six Vivaldi's
concerts (I'm wondering how does that look like. I have an LP with
Linde and that one is very nice as well). The second cover just says
"The Virtuoso Recorder" and the third one "The Modern Recorder".

When talking about contemporary music, Petri played last season here,
in Kitchener with local orchestra a piece written by (hm, ....??,
anyway professor at Wilfrid Laurier University in Waterloo). I have to
say that this performance did not really impress me. Somehow she
looked as she was not really "living with" that music. I don't know.

At the end let me mention also that she is Danish, born in Copenhagen.
She studied at Staatliche Hochschule fuer Musik und Theater in
Hannover (at Ferdinand Conrad? I think that he is there).

Anyway, I warmly recomed her recordings. They are technically perfect,
though somehow I more like Hans Martin Linde's ones.

Best regards,

Andrej
From: CXKNAPP@NAS.BITNET (Charlotte Xknapp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: Luthiers, Eastern U.S.
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:09:00 GMT
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*cc: Charlotte Baylon at NOTES
 
>
>   Does anyone have information on East-coast luthiers involved in
> making lutes and/or guitars of fine repute? I say East-coast since
> I'd prefer a personal visit and my resourses are *not* unlimited!
>
>                               BITNET:  B5R@NIHCU
>         (and, since someone inevitably asks, I am *not* with NIH,
>          I just use their mainframe)
 
===================================================
John (and for anyone who is interested):
 
I know of Joel Van Lennep, who lives and works in a small
town near Peterboro, Vermont.  I am not sure of his workload
right now, but I can give you his address if you email me.
I don't want to post it on the net, not having asked him if
it's ok.
 
Charlotte Baylon
cbaylon@nas.edu
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Subject: HELP!!
From: DANIELB@DEPAUW.BITNET
Date: 10 Sep 1992 12:51:21 -0500
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I am doing a 'little' term paper for a class on "Philosophies and Music".
My topic will be "The Philosophy of Authentic Performance Practice".  If anyone
knows of possible Reference works other than:  Jackson, Roland.  Performance Pra
   ctice:Medieval to Contemporary.  Music Research and Information guides (.  Ne
   w York: Garland, 1988.    OR  Music Index. Detroit: Information Service, 1949
   -
 
        This is what I have come up with in the last two hours in my Library at
DePauw Univ.  I would really appreciate any reference material, or documents or
   any information to help my with this topic.  If anyone has any Info they woul
   d
care to send to me by mail my address is:
 
        Daniel J. Bottoms
        201 Spring Ave. Apt. 1
        Greencastle, IN 46135
 
My personnal Vax account is Bitnet: "DanielB@Depauw".
 
Any and all things would be appreciated.  I thank all of you before hand.
 
        P.S.  I'll probably focus on the Baroque period, probably an emphasis
                on the German Baroque.
 
                                        Daniel
From: DKWILSON@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: Studio der Fruhen Musik
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:58:38 GMT
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Concerning recordings of medieval music, I agree with Allyn Weaks that
Ensemble P.A.N. (for "Project Ars Nova"), Ensemble Alcatraz, and Sequentia
are all groups to watch for if you're interested in hearing really good
stuff.  There are two other excellent recordings that not many people know
about because they're not (generally) commercially available:  both are on
FOCUS Records, a label produced by the Early Music Institute at Indiana Uni-
versity, which, sadly, has very limited distribution.
 
The first is a CD of 13th century Italian laude (a type of monophonic spirit-
ual song) by a group that won the Bodke competition several years back.  It
consists of two singers, lute, recorder, and vielle.  This is one hot band.
 
The other is a CD of music by Hildegard von Bingen; it's a complete Vespers
service for the Feast of St. Ursula.  The music is incredible and the per-
formance is very powerful.
 
If you're interested in getting these recordings, I suggest writing directly
to:	Early Music Institute
	School of Music
	Indiana University
	Bloomington, IN  47405
 
David Wilson
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: York Waits (was Re: Medieval Music on CD)
From: mcrware!jejones@RELAY.EU.NET
Date: 13 Sep 1992 20:26:49 -0500
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The York Waits, *Music from the time of Richard III*, Saydisc CD-SDL 364.
The listing of recordings on the Saydisc label in the insert gives only
the one CD by the York Waits, so that if there are others, they date from
after 1987.
 
	James Jones
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: wills@mik.uky.edu (will s young)
Subject: Fife
Keywords: Looking for fingering chart and Aulos's address
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:16:12 GMT

Hello,

Was woundering if anyone might have a fingering chart for an Aulos NO.
101 fife by chance.  Its rather different than most fifes I've played in
that it has doubble holes on D, F, and B, and has a left thumb hole, and a
lower pinky hole.  Any help would be appreciated.  Oh, if no one knows
anything about it or so, if someone had the address from Aulos bychance
that might help me find more.  Thanks. :)


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From: rmb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (Robert Braham)
Subject: Re: madrigal (?) source
Reply-To: rmb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Organization: Computer Center, CUNY Graduate School, New York NY 10036
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:07:53 GMT


>In article <1992Aug28.150355.11602@sei.cmu.edu>, rsd@sei.cmu.edu (Richard S D'Ippolito) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug19.170545.549@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu>, Robert Braham suggests
>that:
>
>|> >Tant que je vive, mon cueur ne changera
>|> >Pour nulle vivante, tant soit elle bonne ou saige
>|> >Forte et puissante, riche de haulte lignaige
>|> >Mon chois est fait, aultre ne se fera.
>|> >
>
>is
>
>|> Sermisy?  (Tant que vivray?)--
>
>Sorry, I can't help with the above, but "Tant que vivray" has different meter
>and words.
>
>Rich

Response a) What a faux pas!
Response b) "Different meter?  Different words?  Tush-tush!  It's
well known that the processes of transmission and attribution were
complex in the Renaissance . . . Taking the ideas of Atlas, Boorman,
and Bent, we can see that it is possible to posit the notion that
'tant que je vivre' may be related to Sermisy's work (and conceivably
'Baci soave' and 'Verklaerte Nacht' . . . ." [AKA Cover-your-ass response]

Robert Braham
Graduate School of the City University of New York
Bitnet:   RMB@cunyvms1.bitnet
Internet: RMB@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
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From: dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa)
Subject: Medieval Music on CD
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:14:57 GMT

Two more to look for: 
Martin Best Medieval Ensemble - on Nimbus
The York Waits - A Shawm and Brass "town band" on Saydisc (a few
re-released on Musical Heritage)
No recording numbers available, as my copies are not to hand.

<dp>

Oh Yea, there were a number of recordings of chant on Nonesuch years
ago, perhaps some have made it to CD - and phillips (with Musical
Heritage re-issue) also had some recordings of chant...)
From: gilly@bucsf.bu.edu (Gilly Rosenthol)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Mailing list
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:18:39 GMT
Reply-To: gilly@bucsf.bu.edu (Gilly Rosenthol)
Organization: Boston University

Hi!  I've been asked by people who can't get this group if there is a
mailing list.  Please email replies rather than posting as I don't
read the group.  Thank you.

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From: GED17R1@ECNUXA.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Harp Music
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:29:35 GMT
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I have a friend who is interested in harp music of all sorts. Can
anyone recommend several CD's or whatever dealing with excellent
examples of harp music?
Richard Hinton
Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6318 rec.music.misc:22768
From: peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Distribution: world
Subject: Strawbs On CD?
Organization: Zone4
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 17:53:37 GMT

I'm trying to find copies of some 1970-1975 Strawbs releases on CD. I picked
up Hero and Heroine on disc the other day, and have been unable to find any
other albums in any stores around here...

Could anyone tell me if the following LP's are available on CD, and if you
have it, their catalog numbers? These are the discs I am looking for:

Just A Collection of Antiques and Curios (1970) SP 4288
From The Witchwood (1971) SP 4304
Grave New World (1972?) SP 4344
Bursting At The Seams (1973) SP 4383
Ghosts (1975) SP 4506
Dave Cousins - Two Weeks Last Summer (1972) SP 9008

The catalog numbers are for the original LP releases.

Thanks in advance...


     _/\     /\__Piotr F. Dubiel___peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca__/\     /\_
        \_/\/                                                  \/\_/
From: poole1@husc8.harvard.edu (Geoffrey Poole)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Monkees on CD outside US?
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:28:06 GMT
Organization: The Sherlock Holmes English-Speaking Vernacular


	I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that the Christmas 1991 release
of the Monkees box set means that there's no chance of the mid/late period
Monkees albums seeing the light of day on CD in the US anytime soon. 
However, I was wondering if some kind soul can tell me whether they're 
available outside the US (and thus hopefully on import).  I'm particularly
interested in the _Headquarters_ and _Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, and 
Jones, Ltd._ albums.

Thanks!

Geoff Poole
poole1@husc.harvard.edu
From: fernande@cps.msu.edu (Jose Roberto Fernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: BMG multi-disk set S/H
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:20:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: fernande@atlantic.cps.msu.edu

How does BMG charge shipping and handling for multi-disk sets?
For example, if I order a 5-CD boxed set, will I be charged ~$10
shipping and handling?
-- 
Jose Roberto Fernandez
fernande@cps.msu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: gulisaj@alleg.edu
Subject: Re: INXS New Album?
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:55:24 GMT

In article <18ltthINN9aq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  
(Michael Lerner) writes:
> 
> 
> I heard somewhere that a new INXS album just came out or will be coming  
out
> shortly.  Does anyone have it yet, is it any good?
> 


	If you're referring to "Welcome to Wherever You Are", it was  
released on Tues. August 4.  In my opinion, it is a very good album,  
showcasing many of the bands' talents, though the music is different in  
nature from any of INXS' older or newer albums (more distorted-sounding  
songs, a very wild opening track titled "Questions", and some  
experimental-type songs like "Baby Don't Cry" and "Men and Women", both of  
which feature a 60-piece orchestra.)  Some of the better tracks contained  
on it, in my opinion, are "Heaven Sent", "Communication", "Taste It", "Not  
Enough Time", "Wishing Well", and "Strange Desire". 
	For those of you waiting for it to be released in a jewel-box, I  
doubt it's likely to happen.  (The eco-pak seems convenient enough for me,  
anyway.)  But, if you insist on a jewel box, either obtain an imported  
version of it or get it through a record club.
	For what its worth....

 
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From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Tubular Bells II
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:17:30 GMT

lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm) writes:
>Being a great fan of Tubular Bells, I was wondering what people think about
>Tubular Bells II?

I like it. As I listened to it first I thought it was to much like the
original, then not enough. Now I am quite happy with it all. Altered State
is a little stranger than the original.

Now to bring this back to rec.music.CD. My copy is the German pressing and
nowhere on it can I find the 3 letter Analog/Digital code. I would have guessed
that it would be DDD. Is this correct? [4509-90618-2 France WE 852] is the cat
# on this copy.
-- 
David Wilson				(042) 21 3802 voice, (042) 21 3262 fax
Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: zalewk@rpi.edu (Kenny Zalewski)
Subject: Re: John Secada cd
Organization: Information Technology Services at Rensselaer, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:59:12 GMT

In article <0efHr7W00VpAA_s0gV@andrew.cmu.edu> Eric Eimal Paulsen <ep1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Has anyone bought/heard the John Secada cd? Is the rest of it as good as
>"Just Another Day" ?

I've got the Jon Secada CD, but talking about whether it is 'good' or not
is very subjective.  "Just Another Day" is a gem of a song, and will always
stand alone for that.  However, I really do like the whole CD, and there
are other good songs on it.  Jon's voice is superb, and that's one of
the strength's of the album.                   -- kennyz

-- 
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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, 83 Albright Court, Troy, NY, 12180
zalewk@rpi.edu | Kenny_Zalewski@mts.rpi.edu | zalewk@RPITSMTS.bitnet
"Keep your words soft and sweet, in case you have to eat them."
Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6376 rec.music.misc:22978
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: BMG vs. Columbia House CD clubs
Keywords: CD, BMG, Columbia
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:49:53 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <scnn1dc.wisner@netcom.com> wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner) writes:
>About Columbia House:
>
>Pro: No membership agreement any more.  Period.  At all.  I joined
>to get my five intro CDs and didn't have to purchase any more.
>They're clearly getting desperate for members.

Not really.  Columbia House has a "get 8 for free, then buy 6 more at
full price" offer to most people.  If you buy a Sony CD player, you
get a no-obligation intro coupon (to Columbia House) with it.  (Since
Sony owns CBS Records, who run Columbia House).

BMG's standard membership offer has been (for quite some time) "Get
four free, buy one at full price, then get another three free".

>Con (this goes for BMG too): the prices on the CDs themselves range
>from average to OK, especially when you factor in the various discounts
>and special offers, but the ridiculous shipping fee they add blows
>the whole deal.

I can't speak for Columbia House, since I was only a member long
enough to get my four free CD's (with my Sony CD player) and then I
left, but BMG almost never charges their full $15.98+ prices once you
buy your obligatory CD.  Their normal dicounts bring the average cost
per disc to about $7.50 (including shipping and taxes), which beats
most stores.  

The only problem with BMG is that it's a small selection.

-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "TELEPHONE, n.  An Invention of the devil which
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   abrogates some of the advantages of making a
 ((|,)                          disagreeable person keep his distance."
  ~|~                              --- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: One Way Records quality (was Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues)
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:03:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Sep5.004450.6007@panix.com> schuster@panix.com (Yours Truly) writes:
>
>I'm also trying to decide whether I hear distortion in the bass on
>Carpet Of The Sun ... and, if so, where it was introduced (studio,
>intermediate generation analog tape, or CD mastering). I'm not =sure=
>it's there (or perhaps it was always there and I never noticed it).

On further investigation, it's the latter.
I pulled my old Sovereign vinyl LP copy of Ashes Are Burning off the shelf
(tick, pop) and whatever it is I'm hearing in the bass notes on Carpet
Of The Sun ... well, it's there on the vinyl copy too. So the One Way
quality remains unblemished.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: dht@ccd.harris.com (Danh Tran)
Subject: Re: BMG vs. Columbia House CD clubs
Keywords: CD, BMG, Columbia
Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:17:02 GMT

In article <scnn1dc.wisner@netcom.com> wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner) writes:
>About Columbia House:
>
>Pro: No membership agreement any more.  Period.  At all.  I joined
>to get my five intro CDs and didn't have to purchase any more.
>They're clearly getting desperate for members.
>
>Con (this goes for BMG too): the prices on the CDs themselves range
>from average to OK, especially when you factor in the various discounts
>and special offers, but the ridiculous shipping fee they add blows
>the whole deal.
>
>w.

Do BMG and Columbia actually pay $1.99 for the shipping cost of 1 CD?
What does everyone think?  In my opinion, the shipping fee wouln't cost
that much.  They probably make a profit of over $1.00 from the shipping 
fee for each CD they send.

Danh Tran
dht@ccd.harris.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil)
Subject: CD prices hit the roof
Organization: GMD-Fokus (Berlin)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:50:28 GMT

hi,
    most of the 'nice price' pressings
ex-mega-sellers on mainstream-labels
like virgin, emi, etc. are pressed in
the uk and available for DM 20 (L 7, $ 13).
normal cd prices are about DM 30. i heard
that they'll try to rise the prices 
up to DM 40 (again) and stop 'nice-price'-
sales.

independent cds are about DM 25 - 35 for
US-imports and DM 20 - 30 for german
pressings.

i got the blacklist-mailorder-catalogue 
(SF, CA) and cds are all $10 or less.
labels like dischord sell 2lps on 1cd
*including* p & p within USA for $9!

i would boykott (as i do) buying in
stores with such prices (mailorder
- even in your own country - should be
cheaper).
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Cleaning CDs
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 06:09:40 GMT
Organization: Lollapalooza Phoenix Eastern Mosh Pit Smoke-Mask Crew

larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:

> I often buy used discs that have fingerprints and smudges on both sides.
> I'm concerned that the acids and oils in the fingerprints could
> eventually eat into the lacquer on the label side. 

I've cleaned plenty of fingerprints from label sides by wiping them down
with a soft cloth (usually an old pair of undies).  No problems yet --
they're not *that* fragile. 

Keep in mind that this advice is from someone who cleans the *data* sides
by wiping them on the shirt he's wearing, though. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: flyboy@west.darkside.com (Flyboy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: cafe of regret
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:06:12 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

has anone ever heard of a local band to san jose called cafe of regret.   
i you have and are interested they just released their first album on cd 
and cass cass-&8 cd-&14?  if interested write me at 
flyboy@west.darkside.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: petrus@stacken.kth.se (Lars Petrus)
Subject: My player is losing it!
Organization: Stacken Computer Club, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:36:56 GMT

1)  After serving me faithfully for some years, my Philips CD620 has been
having troubles for some months. These are the symptoms:

   There are "glitches", when the player skips about 0.2 seconds of music.
They are very frequent at the start of the CD and gradually get more and
more rare. After 5 minutes there are rarely any glitches, but they can
occur anytime. It is not a "warming up" type problem, since when I play
in random order, it is track 1 and 2 that get hit, not the first tracks
played. Occasionally, if I play the same record several times, the problem
disappears the second or third time. It may also disappear for a few days,
but then comes back.

   My guess is that it is full of dust, but when I tried to open it I 
noticed that you need a special screwdriver, so I haven't been able to check 
this.

   Any ideas?


2)  A friend of mine recently bought a green pen for 119 SEK (20$) that
is supposed to generate better sound if you paint the side of your CDs!
I tried to keep from laughing when I told him that it could not possibly
work, but he said that he had read that it was very good. I remember
seeing some discussion of it here some years ago. What is the generally
accepted view of this nowadays? I apologize if this is a FAQ...


3) This really could be a useful group if there were not so incredibly
many postings about music, instead of CD related things! Think before you post!


  -  -  -  -
Wise Quote: "You want to know how to paint a perfect painting? It's easy. 
Make yourself perfect and then just paint naturally. That's the way all the 
experts do it." - Robert M Pirsig in ZATAOMM.

Lars Petrus, Solna, Sweden  -  petrus@stacken.kth.se
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