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From: tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{)
Subject: AM dying?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Univ. of Tampere Finland 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:45:44 GMT

john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)

>As our moderator is aware, my opinion is that AM is dead and is just
>waiting to be buried. Frankly, I hope someone does it soon so that the
>corpse does not stink up the environment. This particular station is

I have some books about the future of radio as I am doing research in
that field.  The death of AM radio is not so clear as stated above.

RadiOutlook II: New Forces Shaping the Industry.  National Association
of Broadcasters. Washington DC 1991 (ISBN 0-89324-112-1).

This is an American prediction of the future of AM radio (pp. 65-66):

"Despite the upsurge in FM formats popularity, AM radio still retains a
large audience. (...) The popularity of AM radio is expected to continue
due to the 'star' power of the band.  Stars on AM (particularly AM talk
formats) are predicted to hold a strong audience.  Experts believe that
succesful AM stations will continue to be personality driven, with the
stars' value in 1990s further increasing for a succesful station."

This book also includes an interesting view about digital radio.  The
writers say that it is difficult to predict the effects of DAB.

---
Radio 2000.  The Opportunities for Public and Private Radio Services in
Europe.  Edited by George Wedell and Philip Crookes.  European Institute
for the Media and the European Broadcasting Union.  ISBN 0 948195 28 2

This book contains a European prediction of the future of radio.  Neither
the writers of this book condemn AM radio.  However, in Europe the importance
of AM radio is not as big as in the Americas.  Wedell and Crookes underline
the advantages of FM and write that one reason for the radio revolution
in Europe during 1970's and 1980's was the flexibility of FM.  Despite this
they see that AM might have some role in the future, too.

Here is a quotation:

"According to S~dwestfunk medium wave is recovering lost ground at the
present time due to technical improvements.  In the Federal Republic, at
least, medium wave is once again being used to transmit separate programmes
rather than being used to duplicate FM transmissions.  As elsewhere, spoken
word programmes are regarded as the most suitable material for medium wave..."
(pp. 151-152).

This book also includes an interesting section evaluating the possibilities
of DAB and the writers say that at this moment it is difficult to predict
the effects of DAB.  As in the American report the European view is also
that there must be a rather long period when radio programmes are broad-
casted both analogically (AM and FM) and digitally.

Jorma Mantyla

 


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From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) 
Subject: Dr. Demento, Anyone? 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:24:09 GMT

I have fond memories of this show.  For those who *SOMEHOW* have never
heard it, it's a novelty/satirical/political music show put on by an
unbelievably good expert music buff who goes by the name "Dr. Demento."
(I understand he has a Masters Degree in Music).  You'd need a warehouse
full of obscure 45's and 78's to hear the kind of music that he plays.

Sad to say, I haven't heard this show in a long time, probably not since
the early 80's, when it was on a short-lived, all-comedy AM outlet in
Gaithersburg, MD, WJOK-AM 1150.  WJOK and its previous and following
incarnations are good for a separate post (but perhaps another time).
I haven't heard it on any other outlets since. 

This begs the following questions:

1.  Who carries it?  (I believe it is part of the Westwood One network)

2.  Why don't more stations carry it?  (is it too expensive or
narrowcasted or obscure or just plain wierd?)

3.  Besides the usual letter-writing campaign, what are good strategies
to get it on locally?  Any good satellite audio feeds for it?

4.  I know the show has spawned several good compilation albums (and was
probably the major impetus for Wierd Al Yankovich).  Is this the kind of
thing your friendy local record store would know of, or are more obscure
sources required?

Don't know why I was reminded of the show.  I guess I was just in a
demented state of mind!  :-)

Paul W. Schleck

pschleck@unomaha.edu


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From: mayer@miami.ucs.indiana.edu (Darla Stewart) 
Subject: Re: High Priced Trade pub's
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UCS, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 12:16:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.080500.12229@gagme.chi.il.us> genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim
Elliott) writes:

>With all the programming information in them, tho, it's worth it.

In my not so humble opinion, programmers are relying too much on magazines
today, and not listening to their audience.  Travelling from coast-to-coast,
you can hear plenty of "vanilla radio."

Recently, before it appeared in ANY of the trades... I had a copy of
"Achy Breaky Heart."  Started getting phones (we were a country station),
so I added it. 

Should I have waited for Gavin, Billboard or R&R?  Or was I right to add what
my listeners wanted to hear?




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From: R.R.B. Moderator
Subject: Info Wanted on Frequency/Modulation type for DMX
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:01:45 GMT

Do any of our engineering types know what frequency/modulation type
is used in the DMX (Digital Music Express) cable radio servece?
Are the receivers addressable?

William Pfeiffer
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From: seb@draper.com (Steve Bacher 'Batchman')
Subject: Re: Who was this Jock?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Draper.com
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:57:42 GMT

>Who was the WABC (New York) jock who worked the overnight
>during the early-mid 60's?  He used to do this wild commercial
>about "Dennison's Men's Clothing Store, where money talks,
>nobody walks."  It used to be open until 3a.m.

I think I know this one:  It was Charlie Greer (sp?).  He left WABC
around 1969-1970 and was replaced by a succession of other late-night
DJ's (Jim Nettleton, etc.).  

That must have been some store - Route 22, Union, NJ - it all comes
back to me now.  Never did visit the place :-)

 - SEB

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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Tower sites in Boston area
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:41:49 GMT


For anyone who cares, here's a short list of Boston-area AM tower
sites and antenna layouts:

590 WEEI near Wellington Circle, Everett MA (just N of Boston)
         3-tower array in a line (don't remember what direction)

680 WRKO Middlesex Tpk. near 128/3 interchange, Burlington MA
         3 towers (middle one slightly shorter) in E-W line

740 WWEA Concord Ave. near Fresh Pond Pkwy, Cambridge MA
         1 self-standing tower

850 WHDH Centre St. , Needham near Natick line
         3 towers in line from NW to SE

950 WROL Saugus MA?

980 WCAP Totman Rd., Lowell MA near Dracut line
         4 towers in square array

1030 WBZ Hull MA
         2 towers in N-S line

1060 WBIV Natick MA?

1090 WILD near Wellington Circle, Everett MA
          1 tower (near WEEI and WXKS)

1150 WMEX off rt.2, Lexington MA near Arlington line
          3 short towers in E-W line with taller FM backup tower

1200 WKOX at studios, 100 Mt. Wayte Av. Framingham MA
          2 tall towers in E-W line (visible from Rt. 9)

1260 WEZE Riverside Av. Milton MA (near I-93 exit 11)
          2 tall towers

1330 WRCA 750 South St. Waltham MA (behind WCRB-FM studio)
          2 tall towers 

1400 WLLH 2 synchronous transmitters:  in Lowell one tower
          on N bank of Merrimack River near University Av.,
          in Lawrence one tower (?) atop an old mill building
          downtown

1430 WXKS near Wellington Circle, Everett MA
          2 towers

1470 WSRO behind studio, Fitchburg St., Marlboro MA
          2 towers (?)

1510 WSSH behind office park, Waverly Oaks Rd., Waltham MA
          4 tall towers in closely-spaced square

1550 WNTN behind studio, 143 Rumford Av. Newton MA (nr Waltham line)
          1 tower

1600 WUNR 750 Saw Mill Brook Pkwy, Newton MA? (phone book listing,
          haven't been myself).

If there's interest, I can post some tower locations for a few
other cities.  

Most Boston FMs transmit from one of two sites: the tower farm
near Rts. 9 and 128 (89.7 WGBH, 90.9 WBUR?, 92.9 WBOS, 94.5 WZOU?,
96.9 WCDJ?, 98.5 WBMX?, 102.5 WCRB, 103.3 WODS?, 105.7 WVBF,
106.7 WMJX?) or the Prudential tower in the city (100.7 WZLX,
104.1 WBCN, 107.9 WXKS and maybe a few others).  Boston TV comes
from the 9/128 towers except for WHSH-TV 66 (tower in Marlborough
MA), WHLL-TV 27 (tower near Worcester MA), and WQTV-TV 68 (tower
on Prudential tower).  College FMs have their towers on campus,
except for WERS 88.9 at Emerson College, with a tower on the
World Trade Center in South Boston.

E-mail me if you're interested in more details...or can offer
more details.

Scott Fybush -- fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us
This is my opinion, not that of Group W or WBZ radio or anyone else.





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From: genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
Subject: Re: High Priced Trade pub's
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UIUC Computing Services Office
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:05:00 GMT

>>[Moderator's amazment;  $275 a year?  Ghod, what do they print it
>>on, coca leaves? :-)]

>R&R has always been expensive.  So is Billboard, The Gavin Report,
>All the other trades I've seen go for $200+ annually.  Go figger...

yep, it took a while for this to sink in when i heard about what we were 
paying for R&R, FMQB, and The Album Network.  A big chuck of this price is the
fact that the only advertising in these is from Record Companies selling their
music ("Add the new Damn Yankees to your playlist"), and that they are usually
Federal-Expressed out to stations ASAP.  With all the programming information
in them, tho, it's worth it.

//tim
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From: reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout)
Subject: Re: Radio 'Prank' Wake-Up Calls Illegal
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Rhode Island, Computer Science Dept.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:53:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul14.232602.9980@gagme.chi.il.us> schuster\@panix.com (Michael Schuster)  writes:
>
>
>A favorite feature on the WNEW-FM (New York) morning shows was the
>"wake up call" in which the disc jokeys would call unsuspecting

[...]

>Well, it seems that this has been discontinued because of a threat
>from the FCC. Seems this practice is unfair because the recipient
>of the wake-up call does not have fair warning. I wonder if this
>means that Candid Camera (and the like) are illegal now, too.

   The Candid Camera reference is invalid.  Wake-up-calls are almost 
always done LIVE, and are always made to a person's private home.
Candid Camera, on the other hand, was *always* taped, and it was often
conducted in a public place, where the privacy laws are a bit less
applicable.  It is my further understanding that Candid Camera obtained
releases where the circumstances were sticky.
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                                    we'll probably get along"  -jane siberry
   meow

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From: price@nosc.mil (James N. Price)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Big Directional AM Arrays (was Re: 12 towers in U.S.)
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:35:57 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego


XETRA on 690, licensed to Tijuana, BC, but *very* much a factor in
Southern California radio, has 6 towers in a line, plus a 7th
tower off to the side.  The lineup points right toward Los
Angeles, and with 50 KW it works!  In fact XETRA has a great
signal in the Seattle area at night, but is essentially inaudible
in Phoenix.  I think they get frequent reception reports from
Alaska, too.

I don't know what the 7th tower is for.  It may be that they use
two towers in the day to provide "local" coverage to keep the
Mexican govt off their back, and then go to all towers at night.

In any case, this is a clear example of unregulated exploitation.
I imagine the other border stations of old, XELO, XERF, etc. also
have some pretty impressive antenna arrays.  XETRA is the only
one left that still broadcasts in English.  Anyone know the
strory behind that?  I assume someone's pockets are being lined
south of the border.

[Sounds like a great array, Jim.  The seventh tower might be used to
pull the pattern in from the side (is the tower on the east side of
the array?) or it might be for a non-directional daytime signal. 
Another possiblility is that it is for the STL dish.  A local AM in
Chicago (WOPA AM 1200) has 9 towers, two rows of four, and one in
the middle. The middle one, I have been told, is only for supporting
the Studio-Transmitter-Link's parabolic dish..  Hey, directional
antenna engineers, any ideas?  Hey, Jim, ever see XETRA's pattern?
As far as I know, XERF (1570) and XELO (800) are both
omni-directiional.  But with 150,000 or 250,000 watts...so what! :-)]


73--Jim, K6ZH
From: rcoryell@well.sf.ca.us (Roger Coryell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: AM radio needn't die
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:48:53 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Originator: wdp@gagme

In <1992Jul25.112254.4060@gagme.chi.il.us> mayer@miami.ucs.indiana.edu (Darla
Stewart) writes:

>(In reply to john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon), who challenged readers to
name any AM stations, excluding 50kw'ers, which make money with a music
format) 

>I can name one AM station, 1KW in Atlanta! that's doing well with a music
>format... WPLO, 610AM. 

>They're playing contemp country, and doing a good job of it.  They're in 
>Lawrenceville, definitely within the 3.17 mv/m contour of WKHX and WYAY/WYAI
>(both 100kw FM contemp country).  They promote to the hilt... and they've 
>been making money since they moved off 1360.  [...]

>I believe AM can make it... but it takes a lot of work, constant effort, and
>not a few bucks spent. Certainly FMs have an easier time... but there are
>the AMs who are making it with music formats.

What's all the attachment to AM anyhow. Oh, I'll agree that
its cool for DXers, and the history is fascinating, but the band
is pretty much history. If somebody gave me an AM today, I'd go dark,
sell the land around the xmitter site, and invest in whatever the
eventual new band for digital commercial radio will be... maybe
invest in FM in the interim. Why bother with music on the AM band ?

[Moderator's Note: Here in Chicago, WLUP-AM 1000 is respected nationwide for
their innovatoive hip/rock/comedy/personality format.  They do VERY well. 
True, playing music is not the main product, but they are AM and in a market
which is FM saturated.  In Minneapolis, a 5kw AM called radio AHHS
(pronounced oz) is doing a very innovative 'kids radio' music format which is 
incredible.  I  have been known to drive there just to tape this marvelous
station.  They have great sound too.  Few will seriously argue that an AM
station at it's best, will sound as good as an FM station at it's best.  But
there are AM stations, at their best, which sound BETTER than some
aggressively processed, CHR FM's I have heard.  How many average listeners
have the kind of ear and equipment to tell?  For those that do, there is
plenty of fm around.  But let's not write off an entire band because  it is
not quite up to the FM.  AM is getting better, and for programmers with guts
and creativity, it can be a great venue for new innovative programming.]
From: sebert@andy.bgsu.edu (Kim Sebert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: How common are AM stereo receivers anyway?
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:32:57 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Originator: wdp@gagme


thurlow\@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
> 
> 
> In <1992Jul17.052926.15771\@gagme.chi.il.us>
> wa2ise\\@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
> 
>>Anyone in this newsgroup own an AM stereo radio besides me?
> 
> I have one in my car, a Sherwood CRD-310.  It works reasonably well;
> the AM fidelity is no different from average for a car radio, but
> that's a lot better than the average home radio.  The stereo effect

>[...] 

> I think the only hi-fi receiver in production is the Carver TX-11b
> (and it may not be in production now).  They demoed it as a CES at
> one point, and not many people could tell AM stereo from a CD.
> 
> Rob T

Back in Feb my Mom wanted to buy a new used car. With the Horizon she had
they wouldn't give her any trade in so she gave the car to me. I am one
of those AM die hards and the first station I tune to is WOWO in Ft.
Wayne (one of the stations of my childhood). I was crusing around town and
all of a sudden I had STEREO, AM STEREO. I punched the tuner button to
change from timeto the freq. and sure enough there was the little ST
lit up on the display.

It is a standard MOPAR AM stereo, FM stereo radio but in a horizon.
I like it.

Kim 

sebert@aandy.bgsu.edu
From: bijal@garnet.berkeley.edu (Bijal C. Modi.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Olympics live broadcast?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 21:33:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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Originator: bijal@garnet.berkeley.edu


HI,

   Do anybody know if it is possible to listen to
the live Olympic Broadcasts? 


thanks,

-Bijal
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-Bijal.
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From: albert@sedal.su.OZ.AU (Albert Hirawan)
Subject: Radio Italy
Organization: SEDAL -- Sydney University Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:10:12 GMT

I have a friend who has just bought a SW radio receiver and wants to listen to
transmissions from Italy but don't know which frequency & time of broadacast.
Please send me email if you could help. Also, please let me know if there
are anonymous ftp sites that have a list of radio broadcast freq + time (news?).

Bunch of thanks in advance


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S.E.D.A.L. (Systems Engineering and Design Automation Laboratory)
Department of Electrical Engineering
University of Sydney
N.S.W. 2006
AUSTRALIA

Internet: albert@sedal.su.OZ.AU
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From: lbartel@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Shack DX-400
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:50:10 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

I have a Radio Shack DX-400, purchased several years ago.  Will this radio
recieve both USSB and LSSB?  It has a fine tuning knob with null in the center
and an antenna tuning knob also.  On one occasion I used a long wire antenna,
500', at a location in Alaska, and heard a loud "pop" every second or so.  This
occured at night at a location at least 40 miles from the nearest utility or
motor vehicle.  What was this noise?  I expected reception to be quite good but
was disapointed with this radio.
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From: ap005@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Aaron Lukacsko)
Subject: Re: Sony ICF-2010 and ICF-SW77 - Market Status?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 06:27:26 GMT


Here's what I know about the SW-77.  I had a 2010 and loved it.  It REALLY
is a great radio, however I sold it to get a tabletop.  I also 
purchased the SW-77 right when it came out and had problems (not enough 
memories, bad sound, etc.)  I took it back and got a newer model and still
had problems.  I took that one back 2 weeks ago and got a replacement.
This onw works like a charm.  It is an excellent radio.  Better than the
2010 and has nice features (station id, etc).  If you get one, make sure it
is VERY new, like May or June (or more recent) of '92.

-- 
Aaron Lukacsko (ap005)       ap005@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: zoot@csiatl.Gwinnett.COM (Peter C. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: R. Tirana Interim Tune
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:44:08 GMT

A little freedom goes a long way; I listened to Radio
Tirana the other night and noticed that obnoxious,
old twin-trumpet interim signal is gone! 

Huzzah.

In its place is a melody played first on flute,
then perhaps a dulcimer, and then a guitar. The
tune is beautiful. Does anybody know what it is?
I'd like to find a studio recording of it and
listen more.

What a classy interim signal. Especially after enduring
years of the old one.

Pete


I *am* my employer
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From: ron@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Ron Burns)
Subject: Re: Restoring Old Radios
Reply-To: ron@minnow.UUCP (Ron Burns)
Organization: Unisys Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:25:15 GMT


Thanks, I'll look forward to it.  
There is a place here in the Twin Cities called something like
The Pavek Wireless Museum
it is in St Louis Park, MN.   They have an interesting collection
of radios, most much older than mine.  They also have a collection
of schematics and things, and in the John F. Rider books I was able
to find a Schematic, Tube and trimmer layout, Alignment procedure,
Tube voltage chart, and info on how to set up the automatic preset buttons.

I should be well on my way armed with that!

In article <SWL-L%92072109012334@OHSTVMA.IRCC.OHIO-STATE.EDU> Carty Ellis KA2Y <CELLIS@BROCKVMA.BITNET> writes:
>======================================================================== 47
>>FROM:         RON BURNS <RON@MINNOW.SP.UNISYS.COM>
>>SUBJECT:      OLD SHORTWAVE SET --- CROSLEY MODEL 02CA
>>
>There are a few specific books out there - but one of the best IMHO
>is one by a guy named Romney on Fixing Up Nice Old Radios.  It is in
>State University of New York - College at Brockport
>
>CELLIS @ BROCKVMA (Bitnet)
>CELLIS%BROCKVMA.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Internet)


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