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From:         "KKLAPHA at IUS-Mail" <KKLAPHA_at_IUS-Mail@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Macs, IBMs, and CDRoms

      Actually I have several questions that I hope you experts out there

                    (... text deleted ...)

      and this is becoming my most important concern, I am having
      a hard time getting the Macinstosh people to get their proposal in.
      If I can't get them to sell my their equipment, how can I expect
      service after we get the equipment set up.  We had two Macintoshes
      here about five years ago and had terrible service.  I am wondering
      if I am about to make a big mistake.  I sure would be grateful for
      any comments.

      ==================   Begin new text   ======================

      Re: the Macintosh support, I would encourage you to voice that
      concern to your Mac dealer and to your Apple Higher Ed rep.  I also
      experienced lousy service from both Apple and their dealers up to
      about 3 years ago when they instituted a new support program and put
      some effort and $$$ into it.  It involved paying third party dealers
      to support their clients and assigning Apple reps and techies to
      specific markets, ie. Higher Ed.  Since then support has been pretty
      good to excellent.  The caveat is Apple is about to change their
      program to cut out the third party support and whatever will replace
      it is still under discussion.  I've been told that the new support
      program will be defined by sometime in January.

      In the meantime, some of the dealers (or at least their reps that
      specialize in Apple products) are kind of ticked off.  A major source
      of revenue is about to dry up.  You may have to call around to find
      one that still wants deal in Macs to Higher Ed.


 Kirk W. Klaphaak                 | kklapha@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu (internet)
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:15:51 CST
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From:         SMUIR@UA1VM.BITNET
Subject:      Dail Access to campus backbones

The University of Alabama Libraries are in the process of setting up CD rOM
LAN's.  These Novell 3.11 LANS will be connected to the campus backbone
network via CISCO routers and Chipcomm modems.  We are especially interested in
providing dial access to the CD ROM products via the campus backbone.

We are interested in hearing from anyone who can provide options that you are
using, and your level of satisfaction.

I am not a member of this list so please reply directly to me.

Thank you.

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From:         "Harriet A. Rood" <hrood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Satellites and Internet

This is my third, and last, question for the day.  Does anyone foresee the
day when Internet will be accessable through satellite dishes?
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From:         Marilyn Beamish <M.Beamish@INS.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:      P.A.I.S. contact

Hello folks,
This is a trivial Q, but hope some North American subscribers can provide
assistance:
I have been trying, VERY UNSUCCESSFULLY, to contact P.A.I.S. regarding
CD-ROM licence requirements and/or network software requirements for
P.A.I.S. ON CDROM.  I have faxed the office twice and had no reply.

Does anyone have
a) contact name of person who will respond

b) a fax. no. that will generate a response (the one I have used is to the
New York office - 212.643.2848

c) knowledge of what, if any licence restrictions apply to having a SINGLE
USER licence for a Network and any "handy hints" on loading the software.

Please respond directly to me.

Thanks in advance
Marilyn Beamish
Information Technology Services
Griffith University, Nathan Campus
BRISBANE. AUSTRALIA.
Email: M.Beamish@ins.gu.edu.au
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From:         CHARPER@COLGATEU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: [OED2 for Mac and IBM]

The network version of OED hasn't yet been issued (if my information is up to
date - it may be an oversight that OUP hasn't sent us ours yet.)  Colgate has
already paid for the network version, so since they've already taken our money,
we've networked the single-user version using DEC Pathworks and a Meridian 314
tower.  This seems to work fine for us, although another user who was testing
the product on diskless workstations says that they had problems when they
didn't provide a C: disk for the workstations (our diskless workstations all
have C: network drives).  Ruth Glynn, let us know if you think we've violated
our license by networking before we get the "network version".

Cindy Harper
Colgate University
charper@colgateu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:18:38 EST
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Donna Williams Tape Requests
              at Dec 14, 92 10:19 am

A word of caution --- making multiple tapes & circulating them
withouth the express & written permission of the owners (of the
shows, etc) may be an infringement of copyright laws. Publicly
announcing your intention to do so, is unlikely to make you
look any better in the eyes of the law.

     Anne
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From:         "Lynda W. Huggins" <HUGGINS@MERLIN.NLU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Zoloft

I would URGE you not to consider the use of any drug just because the
school system requests it.  I am very much against the use of any drugs
unless absolutely necessary.  School systems have been know to recommend
the use of drugs to "make their job a little easier"!  I was encouraged
by the school system many years ago to consider Retalin (sp?) for my
son.  They thought it would make him less hyperactive and thus improve
his ability to learn.  I felt then, and still do, that my son would NOT
be able to learn better if he was on drugs.  My son is now seventeen and
has never been on any kind of behavior modifying drugs.

If you feel that your child's problem may indeed require medication,
please only consider it AFTER you have discussed it with your child's
doctor.

Lynda in Louisiana
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:35:47 -0500
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From:         FARBER_R@SPCVXA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Donna Williams Tape Requests

Lisa,
    You were just trying to be nice and I for one appreciate your
effort regardless of the way it turns out!I speak from experience...
"volunteerism"is hard to eliminate.
                                  Rosanne
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From:         Lisa S Lewis <LISAS@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Need Help on CopyRight Matter. (fwd)
              16 Dec 1992 21:51:13 EST from <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>

Thanks for the info Anne.  My sister does work at the network in NY (not
for the city's affiliate.) She is a senior producer of one of the news shows,
and should be able find out what we can do here (regarding permissions, etc.)
I haven't spoken with her yet (she works very odd hours) but expect her to
return my call today. So I'll let everyone know.

In the middle of writing this, my sister called.  She's given me the name
of someone to contact about this tape (on all our behalf) and I will do so
today (probably by letter.)  She said that she did not think that I would
have trouble getting permission to share this, but I'll get back to you all
later.

RE: FreshAir...it was a good suggestions (I forgot who made it) to ask your
local NPR stations to rerun the program. However, if anyone does want to
order a tape and lost the number, it's 215-351-9200.  [When they complain that
they have a million people requesting the tape, it might be a good time to
suggest re-running it!]

Lisa
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Subject: Re: Donna Williams Tape Requests - chain member
From: sphahe@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:08:35 EST

In article <AUTISM%92120911321793@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>, Lisa S Lewis <LISAS@PUCC.BITNET> writes:
> Ok, here's the story:
> 
> Lots of you are interested in this tape!  
> 
> Lisa

I would like to be part of the chain for the tape(s) you are sending.  My
address is 

		Audrey H. Eisen
		110 Hofstra University
		Davison #106
		Hempstead, NY  11550

Thanks..............Audrey
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Subject: Re: Donna Williams interview
From: sphahe@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:01:35 EST

In article <AUTISM%92120909523090@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>, LISAS@PUCC.BITNET (Lisa S Lewis) writes:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 1992 06:24:04 EST <AXY01%ALBNYDH2.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU> said:
>>*** Resending note of 12/09/92 0
  She was chosen as the ABC's PERSON OF THE WEEK.
>>I heard Donna Williams on NPR about two weeks ago, and then bought her book. 
I too wish I had known about the interview before hand.

I would like a tape of either the ABC or NPR interview if anyone has access to
a copy.  

Audrey
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:45:53 PST
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From:         lexier@SFU.CA
Subject:      Re: WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS
              10, 92 9:14 am

>
> Lyle,
>
> Could you tell us more about the video you were in, WITH A LITTLE
> HELP FROM MY FRIENDS?  Is it possible to obtain a copy?  I would
> be **very** interested in hearing a group of high functioning
> autistic people discussing their lives.
>
> Dan
>

Hello everyone,
     You can contact Pacific Association for Autistic Citizens
                     201-3277 Cambie Street
                     Vancouver, B.C.     V5Z 2W3
                     Canada     (604) 879-8888

     My video sells for $10.  There are two other people besides me in
the video.  Burke Benish (A very high-functioning guy with Asperger's
Syndrome, and a little boy, and Lyle Lexier (me).  You see extensively
my daily life and Burke's daily life.  It is quite comical the part
that shows my cat continually scratching himself on his collar.

     Talk to you later,
     Lyle Lexier
     108-3896 Laurel Street
     Burnaby, B.C.
     Canada   V5G 4C7
     (604) 437-4238

Good Luck
Mazal Tov in getting a hold of my tape.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:05:08 EST
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From:         Lisa S Lewis <LISAS@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Donna Williams Tape Requests

On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:19:56 EST Jean B. Hunter said:
>Lisa -- I have a tape from Bernard Rimland at ARRI on Vitamin B6 and
>Magnesium in treatment of autism.  I can send it to you for circulation if
>anyone is interested.  The opinions expressed on the tape are Rimland's own
>and my interest in circulating the tape is not to be considered an endorsement.
I have also seen the Rimland tape, and would urge anyone who is interested
in B6 to view it.

On the subject of TAPE REQUESTS...listen everybody.  It's been pointed out to
me that the ABC tapes, as well as the Fresh Air interviews, constitute copy-
righted material.

I have specifically asked my source for the tape (my sister) what to do about
this.  Her reply was that if it is intended for non-commercial use, there would
be no problems with my LENDING it out to various members of this list.

Of course, what you do with a tape once it is in your own home is out of my
control, if you get my meaning.  BUT, if you want to add this tape to, say
a cirulating "library" (e.g. Lynda, in LA) then you should contact ABC and
get the tape from them.

RE:The Fresh Air audiotape.  Fresh Air is produced by WHYY in Philadelphia.
They will be happy to send you a copy of the program...the cost is $12.50.
They have had an overwhelming response to the program.  When I called last
week, they had received over 150 requests already; more than they had ever
had in the history of the program. Someone on the list offered to make copies--
again, just keep in mind that this is copyrighted material.

I have kept a list of everyone who wants the ABC tape.  I should be
getting it this week (the news folks are very busy due to the events in
Somalia.) I'll organize it geographically and send it to the first person,
with a list of who is to receive it and in what order, so that each person can
VIEW it in their home and pass it along.

In the end, I suppose that the last person should send it back to me. This way
we are keeping to the idea that it has been "borrowed" for private viewing
only.

The tape that Jean Hunter mentions can be rented from Rimland's organization
for a two week period. (I forgot the cost.)  He has two other interesting
(though dated) tapes.  I have also asked them if they can get a copy of "Por-
trait of an Autistic Young Man" but haven't heard.  Perhaps we should ask if
they can get Lyle's tape too.  It sounds very interesting.

More on the tape borrowing chain later in the week, after I've gotten it.
Lisa
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From:         "Deborah V. Good" <dgood@UA.D.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Our 6.5 year old PDD kids
              Dec 16, 92 8:20 pm

Hi, John.  Unfortunately I can't respond at length.  I'm taking the next
2 weeks off from my job, and have to get some things done before I leave
in 2 hours!  I'll respond more when I get back.  It was good to hear
from you BTW.

James' birthday is in July.  Last year he attended a private school
kindergarten which has a maximum enrollment of 13.  Though it isn't
especially for special needs kids, many times there are about 3 or 4 in
there.  Last year there was a teacher and 2 aids for 13 kids!  This year
James attends public school kindergarten (mainstreamed with an aide) and
attends the private school p.m. kindergarten.  He loves letters and
numbers despite fine motor skill problems and one of his favorite
activities is sounding out words with us and writing the letters down.

He too was just recently tested for si and receives private therapy 2
days per week.  We think it has been beneficial.  He also receives
language therapy (language delay, echolalia, and some pronoun reversal)
here at the University through Scottish Rite Clinic which is run in
conjunction with the University.  In fact, it was there that James'
autism was first diagnosed.  We knew he was different, but receiving the
news of how different was pretty devastating.

He is our only child.  I would like another child.  My husband maintains
he doesn't.  We had difficulty conceiving so we would need some
intervention to conceive.  We haven't been on birth control for 5 years;
I keep hoping an "accident" will happen.  But then again it's scary to
think possibly we could have another autistic child.

I agree.  We use "mildly autistic" instead of PDD as no one knows what
it is.

Well, I have to go.  Best holiday greetings to you and your family.
James has been so excited about Santa and visiting relatives and
parties.  He loves new social events.  Take care.  Deb
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From:         "Jean B. Hunter" <MS3Y@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Donna Williams Tape Requests

Lisa -- I have a tape from Bernard Rimland at ARRI on Vitamin B6 and
Magnesium in treatment of autism.  I can send it to you for circulation if
anyone is interested.  The opinions expressed on the tape are Rimland's own
and my interest in circulating the tape is not to be considered an endorsement.
   I may also have an old taped TV interview - Judy Barron and Sean Barron
talking about _There's a Boy In There_.  If anyone is interested, please
e-mail me directly and I will dig it out.
   By the way, I took Jeff to the new Disney film Aladdin.  It's too fast paced
for a child who likes to take his time understanding new sights and sounds.
He fell asleep in the middle and even slept through the credits, his favorite
part of any film. The visual effects are reminiscent of Star Wars and Raiders,
and Robin Williams as the genie changes personalities as fast as a bored
couch potato with a remote control changes TV channels. IMHO it's really not
a good movie for little kids - maybe better for age 7 and up.
      Cheers -- Jean
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:10:59 -0500
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From:         John G Doherty <jdoherty@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Donna Williams tape requests

        In offering to dub the NPR interview, my zeal to share this
compelling & informative program overrode my respect for intellectual
property rights. It was not my intention to suggest anything illegal here,
and apparently dubbing this tape might well be considered such by NPR
lawyers.  My apologies also to those who e-mailed me seeking a dub.
        Perhaps as an alternative, those who don't wish to order it from
NPR for the $12.50 could call their local NPR affiliates and request that
they repeat this show. They do run repeated shows from time to time. If
the demand for the tape is translated into demand for a replay, we might
get one. And of course, if anyone should hear of it, send in the
announcement here promptly.
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Subject: Re: Response: Speaker on Autism
From: sphahe@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:12:22 EST

In article <199212102053.AA12333@ua.d.umn.edu>, "Deborah V. Good" <dgood@UA.D.UMN.EDU> writes:
> A committee on our campus is accepting proposals from
> faculty and staff for a lecture series to be held next year.  The topic can be o
>    n any subject
> but should be of interest to the general University and local community.
> The series is described as "thought-provoking community presentations to
> enlighten and entertain."  Shirley Chisholm has spoken this year, and
> CBS News Carles Osgood will in April.   But other not so famous speakers
> have or will appear and have spoken on topics such as wetlands, Women
> and Deities in American Indian Literature, and the lives of deaf people
> presented by a deaf university student.
> 
> Lately there seems to be a lot of interest in autism - or at least it
> appears that way to me.  Do any of you have any recommendations on a
> good speaker on the topic of autism?  If so, I'd appreciate hearing from
> you.  Proposals are due January 15.
> 
> Oh, and by the way, I *wasn't* aware that this was National Autism
> Awareness Week, Lisa.
> 
> Thanks in advance.  Deb

You might consider contacting either of the following:
	Judith Duchan, Ph.D. @ SUNY Buffalo
	Douglas Bicklen, Ph.D. @ Syracuse

Audrey H. Eisen
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Subject: Re: Donna Williams audiotape interview
From: sphahe@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:21:31 EST

In article <Pine.3.05.9212131440.A14226-b100000@world.std.com>, John G Doherty <jdoherty@WORLD.STD.COM> writes:
> By way of introduction, my name is John Doherty, and my wife and I have a
> six and ahalf year old boy, Brendon, who is autistic, or PDD (which as a
> diagnosis, often seems to be medical jargon for "none of the above"). I
> have been reading this list for the past couple of months, after Carolyn
> Baird was kind enough to inform me of its existence after I placed a
> bulletin on a world-wide K-12 special education echo (Thanks again,
> Carolyn! :--)).
>         What's finally got me to write is the Donna Williams tape
> interest. I haven't noticed any mention of the interview she did with
> Terry Gross on NPR (National Public Radio) a couple of weeks ago. It was
> fascinating, and I'm sure got more in depth than the time constraints of
> the ABC news piece could, as it ran for almost 30 minutes. This was part
> of the regular "Fresh Air" program which runs daily. The latter half of
> the hour was an interview with Dr. Bernard Rimland, adviser to the film
> "Rainman", and the parent of an adult autistic himself. Well, yes, I had
> the tape deck running, and any who would like a copy, I'll make one at my
> cost for tape and postage, although I wouldn't expect me to post it before
> the holiday.

Hi John:
I heard the Fresh Air interview with Donna Williams, and would welcome a copy.  
My office address is 
	Audrey H. Eisen,         
	110 Hofstra University - Dav #106
	Hempstead, NY 11550

Thanks,
	Audrey

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