From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Women riders - what I think...
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:26:43 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <3507@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, weiss@ra.nrl.navy.mil writes:
>In article <8365@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>, zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au
>(Zebee Johnstone) writes...
>>lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Lesley Walker) writes:
>> 
>>>Perhaps you'd like to know what happens (socially) to women who ride
>>>motorbikes...We end up single and miserable,
>>>because all the guys think of us as buddies, and therefore don't
>even
>>>consider the idea of forming Relationships with us.
>
>I certainly WOULD think of having a relationship with a BikerBabe
>(tm)!
>Motorcycling is one sport that definitely needs more women.
>
>>>They all seem to
>>>want brainless bimbos for girlfriends.
>
>I am REALLY tired of hearing this bullshit!!!
>
>>In my experience, blokes who are into bikes don;t tend to have
>anything
>>else going for them.  Somewhere out there is a literate intelligent
>>single male who rides bikes, but damned if I can find him!
>
>Not only is that a terribly insulting thing to say, but it is
>incorrect!  
>According to surveys conducted by the American Motorcyclist
>Association, 
>among others, male motorcyclists are typically college-educated.  As a
>>literate, intelligent, college-educated, single male, I find your 
>generalization offensive.
>

What should be noted here is the net addresses. The unfortunate lass 
is posting from AUSTRALIA (unless I am mistaken - then ignore all the 
following) which is QUITE different from the US. I was in Australia 
twice (once east coast, once west), and I think the lady has a 
legitimate gripe. Women in Australia are generally treated less as 
equals, but more as objects. I saw this attitude wherever I went 
to varying degrees. (Oh, I could tell tales about the owner of Belmont 
Harley-Davidson in Perth, Western Australia. I partied with him for 
two days. Interesting.) A good checkpoint here is that Aussie lasses 
thought that us US sailors were GREAT (in comparison?!?) and would 
wine us & dine us & (....censored....) & take us home to mom. We ALL 
know what sailors are like right??? Anyway, no effense meant to anyone, 
but from MY experiences (I always found the "lower element" to 
associate with when I was a sailor), she is one-hundred & ten 
percent right.
>> 
>>-- 
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     Zebee Johnstone  DoD #605   | You don't own an Italian motorcycle 
>>     Adelaide City Council       |  - you merely have the privilege 
>>    zebee@itd.adelaide.edu.au    |    of paying its bills.... 

                             ^^ au == Australia right?????????

Zebee:

I hope you find a good one. There's probably a few out there, but 
they are "in the closet" so to speak. Imagine the reputation they'd 
get if they actually treated you as you deserve??? Too bad I'm 
married, I'd come visit (or re-enlist in the navy & come out for 
FREE! :-)

BTW, I really miss Australia, as I had a BLAST there. Of course my wife
probably would NOT like me to take a trip (alone?!?) back there after 
hearing the stories, seing the pictures and......

Well, G'day all, Eddie

Don't tread on me..........................................I bite
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