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From: ravic@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Ayodhya - Solution demands leadership
Originator: ravic@venture.austin.ibm.com
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:51:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin



>Linking the goal of a uniform civil code to the current unfortunate
>events is a stupid, moronic, dangerous and extremely destructive
>idea. Netters (and others elsewhere like them) who claim that
>nothing less will satisfy their "oh so progressive spirits" only
>show their extreme lack of sensitivity to the issue.
>
>regards
>Surya Mantha

      I agree with you in principle, but the world population consists
   of a large number of people who are not rational and not magnanimous.
   This is the challenge to the leadership of India. Can you inspire
   and make these people act rationally and live peacefully. People
   who can control themselves are usually not the problem.

      I agree with you that it is almost impossible to solve the
   problem, if we start linking everything, but it is also naive
   to assume that incidents happen in isolation, they don't.

   With the exception of the few unfortunate people, most of the people
   who get involved in these emotionally charged acts of mob violence
   are acting purely on their perception of the problem. The challenge
   to the leadership here is to find a way to get rid of this
   perception. If the perception is incorrect then find a way to correct
   the perception, and if the perception is true then correct the
   problem.

      These are the only two possibilities. Any other act will only
   make things worse.

-- 
     Ravindra                "If anything, what do rituals bring to religion?"
      
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From: 8888cc06@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (B Mohanarangan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: roomate
Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:50 CDT
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
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Hi! I am moving to  UT austin next semester (spr'93).  I am looking for a place to 
to move in. I am a non-smoker and a non-alcoholic. No problem if mr roommates smoke ormdri
smoke or drink. please contact me if you need or know anybody who needs a roomamte
te. I am in CS Dept.  Thanks...
Contact me at
Balaji
Houston
Ph no: (713) 432-0977
Any info would be greatly Appreciated..
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Date: 25 Dec 92 16:01:22 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Dec25.123622.3114@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>(Samit Banerjee) writes:
>>Harsh Varma varma@paul.rutgers.edu writes with strong paranoid emotions:
>
>As I recall, all these inane and fear-mongering attacks on ethnic
>groups were presented when people wanted Tamil and Telugu groups.
>

All our fears have been amply demonstrated in soc.culture.tamil.
That it is a group for terrorist propaganda, and for spreading
hate and blasphemy. To say otherwise is a consummate lie. 
You seem to be quite immune to truth.

Having said that I don't see any reason why ACB cannot be created.
An alt group can be created by anybody.


>
>Satya Prabhakar

...kt
>>
>--
>___________________________________________
>Happiness, dear Phaedrus, is a passed pawn!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude)
Subject: TOP 10 differences between .......
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:35:25 GMT



hi,
   The top 10 differences between men and animals :

	10. basketball
	9. animals can't/don't contribute to sci
	8. animals don't have to file tax-returns
	7. worma bashing
	6. animals don't level a temple/mosque now and then
	5. animals don't have to attend interviews
	4. animals need not wear anything but men .....
	3. animals are not interested in Sridevi
	2. animals don't care a shit about Ajith jokes
	1. animals don't contemplate on the differences between
	   them and men


J Anand.

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From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:59:50 GMT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR


				MEMO
				----


TO:	Deepak Bose, Deb Chatterjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, anonymous obscene posters,
	others who post *really* obscene and offensive material

FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
	Indignant and frustrated readers

REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN


After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)

If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
express your opinion.  A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
your own name.  Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
rather then doing a REPLY.  This way you will convey to the offenders that you
feel as strongly about this.

A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
It is NOT a joke.
From: godura@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Fafat's Phuttering 
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:42:11 GMT

Hey Fafat,
From all your vomited GRE wordlist (flavoured, with, of course, your
chronic name-calling) all that emerges is that you have avoided direct
accusations of (dreamed-up) fanaticism..
Shows your mind is capable of logical thought.
Maybe there is hope for generations of Fafats (shudder) to come. :-)
Good luck.
Ruchir.
-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Hypocrisy revisited.
Originator: ssr@reddog
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:04:04 GMT


SHARIYAT for SHAO BANO
SUPREME COURT for DEBRI MASJID.... am I getting at something here ?
I ain't saying Babri Masjid was the right thing to do - just wanted
to HIGHLIGHT the HYPOCRISY in the whole damned issue....

Any takers ?


-- 
Bapcha
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian general reports fresh fighting on disputed Himalayan glacier
Keywords: international, non-usa government, government, fighting, politics
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:20:55 GMT

Location: india, pakistan


	NEW DELHI, India (UPI) -- An Indian Army general, reporting fresh
clashes, said his troops have repulsed a Pakistani military attempt to
seize strategic Indian positions on the disputed Siachin Glacier in the
Himalayas.
	General D.S.R. Sahni, chief of the Army's Western Command, said the
latest clashes on the world's highest battlefield were triggered by the
Pakistani military's ``serious bid to capture some posts.''
	Speaking to reporters in the northern Indian city of Jammu late
Tuesday, Sahni said Indian troops, who control the upper glacier, drove
back the Pakistanis. The Indians remain ``entrenched in their commanding
positions,'' said the general, whose comments were officially made
available in New Delhi Wednesday.
	The general did not give any further details or say anything about
casualties.
	Hundreds of soldiers on both sides have perished in the little-
publicized Siachin Glacier war since fighting first erupted in 1984.
	Sahni said a ``no-war, no-peace'' situation existed along the Indian-
Pakistani border. He charged Pakistan with waging a proxy war against
India by training and arming separatist insurgents in Indian Kashmir and
Punjab.
	Pakistan denies providing military aid to the rebels despite
independent evidence to the contrary.
	Citing increased infiltration of arms and extremists from Pakistan,
India earlier this year moved three Army divisions from the China border
to the Kashmir frontier with Pakistan. A barbed-wire fence, topped with
flashlights, has been built along Punjab's border with Pakistan.
	The 50-mile strategic Siachin Glacier is located where the borders of
India and Pakistan converge with those of China, Afghanistan and
Tajikstan.
	The latest fighting is the first reported combat since August when
India said it shot down a Pakistani helicopter, killing the rival
forces' brigade commander. Pakistan confirmed the death of its military
commander.
	Defense secretaries of the two countries met in New Delhi last month
to try and end the fighting but failed. They, however, agreed to meet
again next year after technical experts from both sides had prepared
details on ways to disengage battling forces.
	The glacier, called the ``Roof of the World,'' is lashed by blizzards
and avalanches round the year.
	The Indian government has told Parliament that it is spending dlrs 1.
7 million per day to retain its control over the harsh, inhospitable
upper reaches of the glacier.
	Despite special protective clothing, many Indian soldiers have
perished in the cold.
	The Indian military has been employing large Soviet-built helicopters
to airdrop food, weapons and ammunition to its troops.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor,P303,2124)
Subject: Re: How to buy a car ?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:13:53 GMT

From article <1992Dec22.140128.27071@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, by appy@churchill.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Pratul.Sharma):
>  
> 
> What I need is a basic 4-door car with auto-trans, cheap, low on maintainence 
> costs, and low insurance.


If you are working for a company ( if I read your E-mail address right),
it might be wise to check on company financing schemes - it is possible
to get loans with interest rates very low to none.

On the question whether the car should be a new or an old one: if I had
enough money to buy a new one, I would do so, except that I'd look for
the cheapest car with just the basics. That is, without luxury frills.
Why?  First, it reduces the monetary committment, both in terms of cost
and insurance. Also, here cars are depreciated to 
half their original cost within 2-3 yrs (with normal usage). 
An expensive car, therefore, would "loose" more money. 

Secondly, once one settles down ( and makes more money), the second
car, this time a luxury one, can be bought.  The first car, can now
be used for short distance rides (something that causes acclerated
wear and tear), and the second for family outings.  

Students, on other hand, IMHO should buy used cheap cars ( $300-1500).
Preferably from owners rather than dealers. Expensive used cars are
traps - cannot junk 'em as easy.

Rajat Kapoor

( My car is possessed. It needs a priest, not a mechanic ! )
From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: AIDS in India: CNN Report
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:32:23 GMT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR


CNN did a segment on AIDS in India on World News dated 1/2/93.  According to
the report, about 1 million people have the virus in India.  In Bombay alone,
the toll cannot be accurately quantified because among the 100,000 plus
prostitutes, awareness is only just beginning.  Thanks to the efforts of people
like Dr. Gilada, an AIDS "expert", and numerous social workers, condoms are
being distributed around the notorious "red-light" areas of Kamathipura,
Shuklaji Street and so forth.

An earlier report suggested that Bombay may have the highest number of AIDS
cases among cities in developing countries.  Furthermore, if the rate of spread
is not checked, by the year 2000, Bombay will have the highest number of AIDS 
cases for *any* world city.

On a positive note, the Government of India has allocated 20% of this year's
health budget to combat the disease through preventitive programs and AIDS
research.
From: slnfp@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: BJP Activists arrested in New Delhi
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:36:37 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Heard on CNN at 9:30 AM this morning that 400 BJP activists were detained
by Delhi Police today during which 9 of them were wounded when they were 
protesting against the arrest of their party leaders.
Koti Reddy.
Utah State University
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From: hkumar@hfglobe.intel.com (Hariharan Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,pdx.general
Subject: New Indian restaurant in Lloyd Center Mall
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:10:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: hfglobe.C01ptq.FnI
Distribution: or
Organization: Intel Corporation


I found a new Indian restaurant among the others on the top floor
of Lloyd center mall. The name is 'Wazwan' and I believe is about
3 weeks old. The menu showed a mix of Vegetarian and Non-vegetarian
dishes priced under $5. Some South Indian dishes also were present.

I havent tried the food yet, so try your luck.


H Kumar

-- 
Reply-to: kumar@littlei.intel.com
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Mustafa
Date: 26 Dec 1992 11:08:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec26.072438.18248@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA) writes:

>He started
>a real good topic. Difference between man and animal.


Sure and you can start another "Men, dumb Men and animals"
And you could even use yourself as an example in either of the latter 
two categories.

>bad words. I wish I complain to all your ADMINS.
>Why do you have to use bad words? 
>Be a little matured. Samit, and other stop this.

Helpppppp!! This guy tells me that he wants to complain to my systems admin.
before sending in a tear-splattered, limp wristed, whining note to that
effect.

Save yourself the effort!! My system admin. has heard it all before from
those "self styled lieutenants of the net police" as they scampered to the
authorities like timid mice at the first hint of a mildly debatable issue.

What makes you think that the results will be different this time around?

Samit


-- 
Samit Banerjee,			    |  
University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |
From: an3925@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: DEEPAK BOSE KI HINDU L*** KI AISE TAISE
Date: 31 Dec 92 07:34:59 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian

OTHER DOG THAT DEEPAK BOSEADIKA BARKING AGAIN 
APRIL FOOL BABY :-))))))))))  MERE G*** MEN DUM HAI.

DEEPAK BOSE KI G*** MEN HAATI KA L*** :-)))))))
SALA KUTTEY KI AULAD :))))))))

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MUSTAFA IBRAHIM 

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Hindus Resume Prayers in Ayodhya Shrine 
Keywords: Ayodhya Prayers
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:19:13 GMT

must@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mustafa Syed) writes:

>	I have a much more basic question, 
>	how can 12% of 875 = 120 million ?

>	it should be about 105 million. Also since the census figures are
>	11.8% muslims and 850 million total indian population,
>	the correct figure should be ~100 million.

>	This basically means that India has less number of muslims then
>	both Pakistan and Bangladesh, and claims that india has second
>	largest muslim population after Indonesia is farce.

>	Agreed??????????

>Mustafa Syed.

	
		Mr. SAYED ,

			FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION , INDIA DOESN'T TAKE

			PRIDE IN SAYING THAT IT IS THE SECOND LARGEST

			MUSLIM POPULATED COUNTRY , BELIEVE ME .


			INDIA IS RATHER ASHAMED OF IT AND IT PAINFULLY

			ACCEPTS THE BITTER TRUTH .

							DEEPAK		







Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dea@geocomp.cee.rpi.edu (Anirban De)
Subject: AIR News: India objects to Pakistan President's remarks
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 22:37:37 GMT


Source:  All India Radio
Time: 5pm EST (22:00 GMT), Dec.25, 1992


New Delhi has expressed strong objection to Pakistan President's remarks
regarding the Ayodhya incidence

The 450 deported Palestinians have urged the Non-Aligned movement, and 
especially India to take actions to save them from the stiuation

Pakistan is to buy P22 tanks from Poland

In Sri Lanka 40 soldiers and some tamil militants were killed in
an ambush in Mullaigudi (sp?) district

	************

	New Delhi has storngly objected to comments made by Pakistan President
Gulam Ishaq Khan regarding Babri Masjid incidence during a speech in Pakistan's
National Assembly on Tuesday.  A spokesman for the External Affairs ministry in
India said that such remarks were totally unacceptable  and that Pakistan 
should concentrate on its own minority problems - an area in which Pakistan
has a lamentable record.

Anirban De
dea@rpi.edu
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: NEWS: Temple for Kushboo in Tiruchi
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:38:17 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University

In <kat.724954577@ro> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:

>In <1992Dec21.071252.19046@news.ysu.edu> ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:


>>    I heard that a temple for Kushboo is under construction
>>in Tiruchi. This temple, called `Kushambigal Devalayam', for
>>the actress Kushboo,  will be completed in January, according
>>to the trustees of the temple..
> irukkara koyilkaLLukkE vazhi illama seerazhinthu pOkindrana!
> pORa pOkka paatha intha cinemaap payaluvala ellam
> kadavuL aayiruvaanuga! intha mathiri vEdhaththilum
> konjum maaththi athiga saamikaLai sErkka vENdi varum.
> athaiyum senjuruvaanugaa. 
>  cinemaap payalukalai naadu kadathinaa, naadu uruppatrum!
 Here goes the translation.
At this rate, everybody is becoming God. All the cinema guys, I mean.
Also they might have to rewrite the vEdhaas to include more Gods.
Perhaps that will also be done one of these days.
TN and maybe INDIA will prosper if all the cinema people are put
in a ship and sent to an unknown place.

Kathiravan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: Do we need a religion?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 DEC 92 10:10:35    


In article <1992Dec19.181049.1211@news2.cis.umn.edu>, crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes...
> 
>This reeks of the inane argument "I've never been to India, so it doesn't
>exist."  Now VV, prove to me, using all of your Vedic, psychologically
>significant, innermost-self jabberwocky that India exists.

	Ed, as I said I do not insist on proofs. I insist on 
	'realizable truth'. If you want to realize India, buy air ticket
	(around $1300) to New Delhi, you will realize India. If you can't
	then 'believe' me India does exist. It is just like you believed
	Armstrong that he landed on the Moon.

	The knowledge of the Vedas depends on the revelations and experiences
	of the Vedic rishis through the Yoga technology. I can't prove
	to you the Vedic knowledge but I can discuss its logistics that makes
	sense to a rational mind. If you are not interested in it that is
	fine.

	No bickering please. Let us get into serious discussions. I am
	changing my signature so that you guys may feel confortable. It is
	obvious that there is wide gap between you and me. If we cannot
	abridge the gap, let us try to understand each others differences.
	That is what I meant by "learning to disagree" not "agree to 
	disagree" because later is not possible as Mr Fafat mentioned.

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From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
Subject: Re: ....... alt..culture..NAYA-bengali--NO-rasagulla ......
Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:27:36 GMT

-+>Arindam Ghosh writes: (with humor, ofcourse!)......
-+>>to brazenly promote rasagulla. Rasagulla is the symbol of foreign oppression
-+>>promoted by the British and the Muslims to eliminate and contaminate Hindu
-+>>culture. It is never mentioned in the Ramayana and Mahabharata or the Vedas.
-+>>No trace of it can be found in the Bengali Culture prior to the British and
-+>>the Muslims. I hereby announce that all Rasogolla making factories be
-+>>demolished and converted to Sandesh making factories to assuage hurt feelings.


This guy is on a futile hunt for rasagulla factories.  Like the RSS and VHP it
will stay alive, existing as rosogollo factories...

Guys, repeat after me :-

The new RSS song (( rosogollo savor-ers sangham ))

ro - so - go - llo ----- ro - so - go - llo - .... (continue until Ur mom/wife
							places the plate of that-which-
						-gives-meaning-to-our-lives in front of us).

Each hyphen is a 1/2 second break .....


Dear RSS members...

It is our honor bound duty to keep alive the tradition of salivating before
AND after eating the ro-so-go-llo-.  The former salivation is real, the latter
is because of the juice...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


P.S.  where the fuck is the soc.culture.bengali : the post returned saying such
	a newsgroup doesnot exist...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Date: 1 Jan 1993 12:59:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


Knock-Knock !
Who's there?
Owls
Owls who?
Yea, they do.




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From: bi379@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Giridhar Devarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Info on American companies in India
Date: 2 Jan 1993 23:18:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



     Please send me this list too. My email address is:

    devaraja@gn.ecn.purdue.edu

    Thanks.

   -Giridhar Devarajan-