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From: aaron@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Aaron Schrab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Copy Card
Keywords: Copy Card
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:01:13 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <78261@hydra.gatech.EDU> wj4@hydra.gatech.edu (Bill Joye) writes:
>Problem: I wish to use the 'Copy Card' menu option in
>a script via 'doMenu' with a stack at level 2 (Type).
>Problem is the 'Copy Card' menu option is not available
>until you move to level 3 (Painting).
>
>Question: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
>'Copy Card' at level 2. Or do you know a way to disable
>some of the other menu options available at level 3?

put the userLevel into oldUL
set the userLevel to 3
doMenu "Copy Card"
set the userLevel to oldUL
>
>Thanks
>
>bill joye
>wj4@prism.gatech.edu
>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Oh GOD!! NOOOOOO!
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:58:29 GMT


Okay, this time I've REALLY done it, and I REALLY need your
help ASAP!  I have been working on a stack for a customer
for the last 4 months.  I am scheduled to install it next week.
It is very large and very complex, and very valuable.  So what?
Well, I was tying to delete a CARD from it, adn I accidentally deleted
the WHOLE THING!! AARGHH!  HElP!

I tried Norton, and managed to recover several versions of it, that come
up as "HyperCard documents" in the finder, but when I attempt to open
them, HC strats up, then says that these are not Hypercard documents.

I have a backup, but I did SO much work last night, stuff that isn't on
the back up.  I really need to recover this damned stack.  HELP!!!!

I'm desperate.  Any help greatly appreciated, as quickly as possible
would be good.

Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: hector@cs.toronto.edu (Hector Levesque)
Subject: Zoo friends?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:35:56 GMT

Has anyone seen "Zoo Friends," a shareware Hypercard stack for children?
Sumex and Umich do not have it, as far as I can tell.  Macuser, in its
minifinder catalogue in their recent buyer's guide, gives it a 5 mice award.

Thanks!

Hector Levesque
U. of Toronto
hector@cs.toronto.edu
From: gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Balloon Help for Hypercard stacks?
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:02:31 GMT


In article <1992Dec15.104713.26803@netcom.com> jeffreyb@netcom.com (Jeff Budzinski) writes:
>Can someone tell me if it is possible to add balloon help to a stack 
>that one is authoring?

It sure is.  And it's a snap, too.  There's an excellent utility
on the archives called "HCBalloon"  Get it and start inflating.


Nate.
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Nathan Gasser       ><>         
gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: spw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Steven P Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Hiding background field
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:42:31 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote:
: How can one hide a background field so that it doesn't show its text?
: I don't want to paint white on every card foreground.
: 
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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: Ball State University   | Computing  |    Internet:00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
: Muncie, Indiana         | Services   |    America Online:Outatime
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: I do not speak for UCS, and they don't speak for me.


Try this...

hide bg fld "myField"

or even...

set the visible of bg fld "myField" to true


Steve
From: chundhau@pragmatix.cs.uoregon.edu (Christopher David Hundhausen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: What format are the stacks on sumex-aim.stanford.edu in?
Summary: I'm trying to download rinaldi-externals-20.hqx
Keywords: sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file format, file conversion
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:42:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Dec17.084212.5454
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

I'm new to FTP land, and I recently logged on to sumex-aim.stanford.edu in
hopes of downloading rinaldi-externals-20.hqx.  I tried choosing MacBinary
format, and then doing a "get rinaldi-externals-20.hqx", but it told me
that the file was not in MacBinary format.  I changed the format to straight
binary, and successfully loaded a 600+ K "document" onto my Mac hardrive.
Unfortunately, I couldn't figure what to do with this monster.  Was this 
supposed to be a Hypercard stack?  Am I supposed to know what to do with it?
What did I do wrong? 

Thanks,

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* Christopher D. Hundhausen                        chundhau@cs.uoregon.edu  *
*    University of Oregon Department of Computer & Information Science      *
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From: msweetes@axion.bt.	Ico.uk (Michael Sweet-Escott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Help: US compression utilities for UK users
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:28:13 GMT
Reply-To: msweetes@axion.bt.co.uk (Michael Sweet-Escott)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Hi,
	I recently found a huge archive of HyperCard Stacks & Utilities
at the ftp site mac.archive.umich.edu, some of which will be of great use 
for my final year project (A Hypertext/Media system) at the University of 
Surrey -here in the U.K.
	
	However, the problem I have encountered is that most of the stacks 
have been compressed by one or more of the following utilities (which are
not available in the UK).

	* BinHex4
	* StuffIT version. XX
	* Compact version. XX

Could anyone tell me where I can obtain copies of these utilities,
their costs and most importantly if they work with the UK version of the
Mac's operating system. (I've heard rumours that some of them don't !).

I would also be grateful if anyone could direct me towards any sites from
where I could (legitametly) copy uncompressed HC-stack examples.


Thanks, in advance.
		Michael.
From: tomo@ocf.berkeley.edu (Thomas C. O'Brien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Determining Report Names from HCard
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:08:45 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: all
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu




Hey folks, thought I'd repost this tricky question since I hadn't gotten any
replies first time around...

Does anyone know how to get the names of existing reports from within 
Hypercard?  Is there an XFCN, or a new property that lets you get the
names of reports?

I would like to offer users a choice of existing reports, but want it 
automatically updated if someone adds a new report.  It seems like it would
be a good thing to be able to determine the existing reports....

Any ideas or pointers appreciated!

Thanks,
Tom O'Brien
Academic Achievement Division
UC Berkeley

tomo@ocf.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: demerit@vms.macc.wisc.edu (J. DeMerit)
Subject: Re: Can I Find Card Number Within a Background?
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 15 DEC 92 12:18:29    

In article <18055@bcars664.bnr.ca>, wheeler@bcarh744.bnr.ca (Cheryl Wheeler) writes...

>I have a stack with 3 backgrounds. The cards of one of the backgrounds are
>sorted in a way that is useful most of the time. However, in one instance,
>they aren't (and I'd prefer not to re-sort, if possible). In this case, the
>cards are sorted into alternating groups of interesting and uninteresting
>cards. I'd like to loop through the first interesting group using 
>card x of bg "My Background", then find the first card of the next interesting 
>group, and loop through that group. But the problem is that I can't seem to 
>find out the number of a particular card within its background. Is there a way, 
>or am I forced to do something different?
> 
I'm not completely sure what you are doing, but in the second group that you 
want to go to, if you know what card is first in that group AFTER the sort.  
Then "go to card id xxxx".  Card ids are unique and never change arfter the 
card is created (including sorts).  After you are at that card, then request 
"get the number of this card" -- now you know you are at, say, card 30 and you 
can flip sequentially.
From: PKELLY@UCF1VM.BITNET (Patrick J. Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Direct Recording into SuperCard
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:33:46 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services

Good Afternoon..

I'm looking for a way to directly record voice from the built in microphone
on the LC and Powerbooks into Supercard.  Are there special drivers or
can we use those used in HyerCard? If so, how?
Thanks,
Patrick J. Kelly
PKELLY@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: brod@jessica.Stanford.EDU (Brodie Lockard)
Subject: Engaging ways to present lots of text?
Reply-To: brod@jessica.Stanford.EDU (Brodie Lockard)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 09:09:06 GMT

I'm looking for examples of HyperCard stacks that deal with lots of text in
engaging ways (perhaps with a few graphics).  Can anyone tell me of examples of
such stacks at ftp sites, or send me examples?  Thanks in advance.

Brodie Lockard


Brodie Lockard      brod@jessica.stanford.edu
From: draper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (E.J. Draper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Why Does HyperCard Invalidate An Entire Window?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:41:13 GMT
Organization: U.T.M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
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X-XXDate: Fri, 11 Dec 92 22:36:04 GMT



Why does HyperCard insist on invalidating my entire XWindow when the
window is activated?

Is there a way around this?


      |E|J-  ED DRAPER
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             The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
             draper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
From: wheeler@bcarh744.bnr.ca (Cheryl Wheeler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Can I Find Card Number Within a Background?
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:44:54 GMT
Reply-To: wheeler@bnr.ca
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

I have a stack with 3 backgrounds. The cards of one of the backgrounds are
sorted in a way that is useful most of the time. However, in one instance,
they aren't (and I'd prefer not to re-sort, if possible). In this case, the
cards are sorted into alternating groups of interesting and uninteresting
cards. I'd like to loop through the first interesting group using 
card x of bg "My Background", then find the first card of the next interesting 
group, and loop through that group. But the problem is that I can't seem to 
find out the number of a particular card within its background. Is there a way, 
or am I forced to do something different?

Cheryl

wheeler@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: vutien@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Vu Tien)
Subject: Question : XCMD to read .DBF files ?
Originator: vutien@zebra
Organization: Centre d'Etudes de la Navigation Aerienne
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:22:21 GMT


Is Anybody aware of an XCMD to read back files created by dBase III ?

vutien.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Distribution: world
From: Dajuin_J._Yao@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:14:11 PST
Subject: Re: trapping cmd-.

Use "set the cantAbort of this stack to true" in a "on openCard" or "on
openBackground" handler.  Remember to set it back to "false" when you don't
need it.
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From: sekey@engrhub.ucsb.edu (Andrew Sekey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Initializing HC variables
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:01:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara


	Suppose we have an array of variables x1, x2, x3, etc, and we want to
initialize them to zero, i.e. to set:

	x1 = 0;  x2 = 0, ........xN = 0.

	Can this be done in a "repeat" structure?

(What would be obvious in e.g. Fortran, does not work:

	repeat with j = 0 to N
	    put 0 into x & j
        end repeat

since even including a line  'put x & j into dummy', when followed by 
'put 0 into dummy', will only change 'dummy', not xj.)

Any offers?

Andrew

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron)
Subject: Thanks for the robust error protection!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:45:55 GMT

Just a note to thank the HyperCard 2.x team for some really fine
crash protection. I've heard that most damaged stacks get that way
because the power went out while the stack was open. Yesterday, I
indeed lost power while working on my record collection database
stack (well over 500 items and still not yet half finished); the loss
was only for a few seconds, but it was enough to make the Mac power
down.

Dreading the outcome, I started up and opened the stack after
regaining power, and I'd lost exactly one field's data -- the field
I was in at the time. I think my sigh of relief could be heard over
the 50mph winds outside!

Thanks again, folks.

Bob
bobsoron@world.std.com
"With Velcro, gravity is obsolete" -- Mister Boffo
From: aaron@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Aaron Schrab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Hiding background field
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:23:14 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <1gmml7INNrmi@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> spw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Steven P Wilkinson) writes:
>00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote:
>: How can one hide a background field so that it doesn't show its text?
>: I don't want to paint white on every card foreground.
>: 
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>: Scott Davis             | University |    Bitnet:00sndavis@bsuvax1
>: Ball State University   | Computing  |    Internet:00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
>: Muncie, Indiana         | Services   |    America Online:Outatime
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>: I do not speak for UCS, and they don't speak for me.
>
>Try this...
>
>hide bg fld "myField"
>
>or even...
>
>set the visible of bg fld "myField" to true
>
Actually, that should be:
hide bg fld "myField"
or
set the visible of bg fld "myField" to false
                                       ^^^^^
>
>Steve
>


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 aaron@studsys.mscs.mu.edu  |  The world isn't what I want it to be   
 Kammerling@aol.com         |  anymore. It used to be so easy ...    
 A.Schrab@genie.geis.com    |  to make believe.      -the Tick #4
From: danny@martha.utcc.utk.edu (Danny William McCampbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Selecting the ClickChunk ..Help?
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:06:25 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Could someone offer some advice of the following problem I am having?
I have  a field with grouped text in it.  When a user clicks on a
portion of the text I am selecting the ClickChunk.  The problem I am
having is this is extremely slow. After the user clicks the text
is selected(highlighted) after about 2 seconds.  Is there any way to
speed this up.  I would like the text to become selected immediately.
Is there and XCMD to do this?  Thanks in advance.


--
Danny McCampbell
UT Computing Center
danny@utkux1.utk.edu
From: jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: BEWARE: HyperCard and 7.1
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:52:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA


In article <athos-151292132407@kip2-32.apple.com> athos@apple.com
(Rick Eames) writes:
>If you have changed your date format using the new Date/Time CDEV you WILL
>end up changing HyperCard's "the long date" format.  For example, if you
>tell the CDEV that you don't want the day showing, the long date will NOT
>give you "Thursday" or whatever day it is.

Thanks for pointing this out, Rick.  It's not documented in the Script
Language Guide, but it's true:  HyperCard uses the date formats specified
by System Software, not fixed formats as the Script Language Guide implies.
There's a good reason why it does so:  compatibility with localized versions
of System Software.

In general, you should never rely on the format of the date returned by the
date function.  In particular, you should never attempt to parse a date
within a script, assuming, for instance, that word 1 of the long date is
the day of the week.  If you need to know the day of the week, use the
convert command to convert the long date to dateItems format, and then
look at item 7 of the resulting string.  This will give you the day of
the week in numerical form.

  convert the long date to dateItems
  put item 7 of it into dayOfWeek

In general, if you want to do calculations on dates within scripts,
use the convert command to convert the date to one of the two fixed
formats for dates and times, seconds or dateItems, do what you need
to do in that format, and then convert back to whatever format you
want to display.

Kevin Calhoun
jkc@apple.com
From: Roger.W.Brown@dartmouth.edu (Roger W. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Son of Teaching HC to faculty
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:36:26 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b2@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <babb-091292181833@larc.sdsu.edu>
babb@sciences.sdsu.edu (J. Babb) writes:

> The questions I posed before are by no means the limit of what I intend to
> go over. 
> ANY ideas are appreciated.
> Posting your suggestions might be best, but if email reaches me, I'll be
> glad to summarize and re-post, too (although it'll be after the class and
> maybe Xmas break).
> Thanx,
> Jeff.

For what it is worth, here is a repost of a summary of my own
experience over the Hyper years. I would be happy to share more details
with you. 

Here is my old article:
=======================================

Here are some thoughts from my own experience. 

It is hard to teach HyperCard in [a short time]. I do it each term, a 3
hour minicourse in HyperCard and a two hour in HyperTalk. I have also
have a seminar that gives a whole day to each, then a day to multimedia
and another to advanced topics like scripting tips, using XCMDs, and
other topics.

My design for basic HyperCard is to start at the lowest user level and
let people browse around the tour and other stacks. Then work through
the menus showing what each item does. Then move to the next user level
and go through the menus again, showing what is new at each level. 

As new functions are enabled, do some examples, like add cards to the
address stack, fill them in, and find things. When you get to painting,
make a whole new stack and paint away. This is a good place to stretch
or shrink to fit the time available. You can show as much about
painting as time allows, or leave it for user exploration on their own
time. When you reach the authoring level, add a field and button to a
new stack. Discuss backgrounds at painting level and again at the
authoring level.

For Hypertalk, I have the users build a simple stack. In the two hour
course it is a very simple stack that has one background with a few
fields and buttons. In the 8 hour class it is a fancier stack that has
more than one background, pictures, sounds and XCMDs. We build the
stack up an object at a time in a sequence that lets me introduce
HyperTalk concepts in a cascading manner.

This scheme seems to be successful.I have never had anyone ask for
their money back ;->


P.S. Is is always trouble if some of the class is not familiar with the
Mac. I try to screen those out and make sure they get remedial help
first. Otherwise it drags down the rest of the class. If remedial help
is not possible, try to team those people up with someone who knows the
Mac and is either willing to help the other person along just make the
other person just watch.

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Roger Brown                                roger.brown@dartmouth.edu
Software Development
Kiewit Computation Center, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu (Winston MacKenzie Rast)
Subject: PICTs in WindowScript
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 07:05:53 GMT

I'm trying to create a deluxe version of the Navigator palette using WindowScript
and I'm having a little trouble making my PICT work correctly. You see, I have
a pict of the standard icons of go first, go prev, go next, and go last. It is
a gray-scale pict. I have set the grid and logic for this pict appropriately:
logic: push and grid: 4,1. What I want to happen is when I hold the mouse
button down, it should look like the button is pressed in (you know, 3d-like).
Now, my script for the open window event makes the buttons turn to a yellowish
color when the mouse button is down. My question is: how do I change this? 
Looking through the other picts available, I see picts for both states of the
mouse, both up and down. The impression I get is that there is a way to have
one pict showing when the mouse is up and another pict showing when the mouse
is down. PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS! I just don't see how it is done. If you
don't follow what I'm talking about. I want the same effect that the buttons in
Audio has. Thank you VERY much in advance!
wmr

"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm covered with Alpo."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: jfogh@halcyon.com (John F. Fogh)
Subject: Re: Engaging ways to present lots of text?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:46:55 GMT

 If you have to work with large amounts of text, I would use the TEXTOID
XCMD. One of Rinaldi's XCMDS. I think you can find it on SUMEX. 

               - John

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard