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From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Oil and clutches
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:14:29 GMT
     <1992Nov11.113527.23317@convex.com> <1992Nov11.114030.23660@convex.com>
     <1992Nov11.075713.797@skitzo.dseg.ti.com>
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    Just  one other bit of advice. Has anyone ever heard of synthetics?
I have used them since their conception and have never had one oil
related engine failure. The chemicals in synthetic oils have the same seal
swelling capbilities as automatic transmission oil and have less byproduct
residue after draining.

    Hats off to Georgie for not sticking to traditional motor oils.
Afterall
the bottom end of your motor is mostly made up of gears and other moving
parts that should have as much free flowing movement as possible.
This is something that synthetics can provide. They are much thinner
than their petroleum counterparts,and will not void a warranty if used
according to specs.

     P.S. George did you ever get the information on the seat kit?
I have been out of town for some time and have not had the chance to
follow up. My appoligies Mate.


        Ken Ferguson Campione Raceing
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From: aweaver@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Andy Weaver)
Subject: Re: Fears & Re: moto-workouts
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:44:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.085808.789@skitzo.dseg.ti.com> frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com writes:
>
>  Which brings another thought to mind.  I just realized that I haven't been
>  taking enough chances.  I think fear slows me down a lot more than my
>  physical condition. I should have been trying stuff while we were out at
>  Dowdy.  I should have went ahead and took the double we came across back in
>  the woods. I should have went off and looked for some short vertical climbs
>  instead of hammering the same berm and wishing my clutch plates were new.
>  Its all great fun.  But if something is holding you back then maybe it 
>  should be confronted.  Come to think of it, I haven't crashed since I got
>  the new engine.  Yeah, I think I'm due for a core sample.  Anyone care
>  to watch :-)

I think that you have really hit on one of the key points to going fast.
Mike and I were just discussing this this sort of thing today.  Back when
we first strated riding together, a few years ago, we were a pretty even
match for each other.  I crash very seldom, and Mike crashed a lot.  We 
used to go playing and Mike would come past me then crash.  It happened
a lot.  Most of the time he'd just get in front of me then crash.  I got
better at avoiding his crashes, and he got faster.  He always pushes his
limits (aka crashing).  He started racing crosscountry and I started 
racing jet skis.  That went on for a year and now he faster than me, because
he kept crashing and learning, I didn't.  

I still ride very conservatively in most cases.  I'll go a bit faster during
practice, but still I rarely ride all out.  When I am going as fast as I 
can, I'm noticably faster, but then I'll almost crash and slow down again.
I can't get past the fear of crashing, CRASHING SUCKS!  I'll even put myself
in jeopardy of crashing harder, to avoid a little get off (example:  instead
of going ahead and low siding when out of control, I'll chop the throttle to
try to pull out of it.  This works a lot of the time, but it makes me very
likely to have another bad high side crash.)

I guess that I'll have to get used to the idea of crashing if I want to 
go faster.  I'm hoping that Gary Bailey's MX school will help me to go
faster without having to pay as much of a crash toll.  That's the weekend
after this one (I hope they got my registration in time).  If that doesn't
help much, maybe I'll start taking soil samples with you :)

>How am I going to convince my wife that the new bike that will be sitting
>in the garage is really the same old bike with a face lift and new color
>scheme.

I think that you would be quite a bit faster with a bigger bike, and a bit
of practice on it.  As far as convincing the wife, good luck.  You could
always say that you are just storing it for a freind :)
>
>mark frampton....O/30 NOVICE   |    You can ride as long as you are alive,
>frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |      as long as you can take the pain.
>                               |  
>
Andy
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Subject: MIXTURE SEPARATION RE: ST
From: jim.engle@cccbbs.UUCP (Jim Engle) 
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: jim.engle@cccbbs.UUCP (Jim Engle) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248

-> This will take about 3 weeks to complete. I'll post my lab report at
-> that time.  If someone has already done this experiment or if there
-> is absolute total disinterest, let me know so I may can the effort.

I think this is an excellent experiment and I would be interested in the
results.  I don't get the bike out as often as I would like and although
the drive to the track does tend to mix what's in the tank, I sometimes
just ride in my backyard.  Usually I do try to mix it up before I start
it though.
Jim
From: baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: winter riding
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:22:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <BxM29v.E6w@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cmhg1010@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cy) writes:
>I like riding my bike and plan to do it all winter long, snow
>ice, sleet, whatever.  I recently saw a posting about changing
>the jet for cold riding.  (Sometimes it gets -20F here)
>
>Do I need to do this for a Yamaha DT250 '79?  Also, does this
>involve going to the dealer and asking for a cold kit or something?
>
>Another question.  HOW DO I GET MORE POWER ON THIS BIKE?  Do I
>just need a bigger bike, or can I do something to the carb?
>Any low budget ideas?
>

Unfortunately I can't tell much about winter set-up or how to get more power
out of your DT250.  Modern 125's make more horsepower than your bike.  What
I can tell you is that it is a very good bike.  As in solid like a rock.
I would probably leave it alone and save for another bike.  

>Also, I never hear mention of DT's on this net.  Are they just bad
>dirt bikes or are they not even considered dirt bikes?  I only
>got it because it was so cheap, but in very good condition.

Well Andy owns a '78 DT125 and we use it for our pit tranportation at the
races.  It is a very good little bike and get alot of use/abuse from eveyone.
We like it and if I had to choose between riding the DT and not riding I would
chose the DT.  It isn't the a race bike, but a dirt bike it is.  


_____________________________________________________________________________
DoD #359       Current bike '91  CR250 |         Mike Baxter   
AMA #607249    Current num....061      |              
TCCRA  #761 or P61 for 1993            |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
250cc Expert or Pro                    |
Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.   
50 miles of off-road Hell              |  
_______________________________________|_____________________________________
Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed above are my very own, becuase 
             if they were worth anything TI would patent them.
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From: bored-out-of-my-skull <clane@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: new kawasaki 650
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:28:49 GMT


after reading the description of the new black (forget #) kaw 650
it sounds like the bikes used in the movie with Micheal Douglas about
japanese mafia called "Black Rain".  Anyone know what bikes they used in that
movie?  They had street and Dual purpose bikes, and i liked the way the DP
bikes looked.


later               Sponsered by: Chuck's Bar, Barbeque, Bed and Breakfast
chuck!                              "Breakfast is FREE at my restaurant!"
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From: baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter)
Subject: Re: Keeping an XR 350 Dry?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:10:24 GMT

Silicon and tape everything.  Electric tape all your wire conections.  Silicon
your ignition cover.  

_____________________________________________________________________________
DoD #359       Current bike '91  CR250 |         Mike Baxter   
AMA #607249    Current num....061      |              
TCCRA  #761  for 1993                  |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
250cc Expert                           |
Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.   
50 miles of off-road Hell              |  
_______________________________________|_____________________________________
Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed above are my very own, becuase 
             if they were worth anything TI would patent them.
From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Super Doug's first trophy
Keywords: Extra points for style
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:07:23 GMT
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com


Last weekend, I took all 3 of my boys plus myself to a family time enduro
that the Hollister Offroad Association put on at the park.
This was the first time my sons had ever entered any event with their dirtbikes,
and for Doug, only the forth time he evr rode his peewee 50.
Anyway, the eduro was a timed event consisting of 3 20 minute sections and 5
skill events.
My two oldest boys, Matt 11yrs and Jeff 10 yrs. did fairly well in the skill
events before they went on to the timed sections.
Doug, 4 yrs. old was starting his skill events when I and my sons were sent out
so what I am telling you comes from my wife watching Doug.
One of the skill events consisted of  riding your scoot up to a plastic jug
sitting on a post.  Once you grabbed the jug, you had to  ride further up a 
path, and  throw the jug into a large pail. ( about 4 ft in diameter)
You could not move closer to the pail, as they had a chalked line you had to stay
on.
Well, Doug grabbed the jug on his first pass.
He then proceeded to ride by the pail and throw the jug into it.
When Doug took a big throw, he forgot to let go of the jug and
came flying off his peewee 50.
He landed in the pail with the jug, as his bike motored on.
The crowd of about 80 people just broke up laughing, (as did his mom)
He got up real quick, (very embarrased) and brushed himself off.
He then ran behind his mom and started crying.
Now, during the timed run, my two other boys were up on a trail about 100yds 
behind me.
One of them stuffed his front end into a sand bank and ate it.
The other one, following to close plowed into the first one and ate it.
A fight insued with neither one gaining on the other.
I had to turn around and breakup the fight, then spend 15 minutes dragging
their YZ 80s back up the hill onto the trail.
When all was said and done, we all met back for the trophy giveaways.
With all the time lost breaking up numerous fights between my two oldest
boys out on the trail, I mangaged to pull  a third in my divison.
Jeff and Matt believe it or not scored a 4th and 6th and got ribbons.
After all the ribbons and trophys were given out, the guy who put the
event on stopped everybody for a second and said that we have one more
trophy to hand out.
This one was for the best effort by anyone during the day.
He called Doug up to the table, the people went nuts cheering for him.
You should of seen his face when the guy handed him his trophy.

PS, he slept with the trophy that night!


Al Conte
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From: ramz@beta.lanl.gov (Thomas Rick Ramsey)
Subject: Re: KDX200
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:32:17 GMT

The KDX200 is available in a 1993 model for the US, at least.
I have two friends that already own and ride them.  The 93 model
is similar to the 89-92 models, except for the forks.  The new
model gets fat-top forks (upside down?).  Frank says that the power
is about the same as his 89, but the suspension is much better.
Mike says the power is better than his 88 air-cooled model, and the
suspension is loads better.

A recent issue of Cycle News showed pictures of the new
KLX650R and KLR650.  As I remember, they had the following:

KLX650R - off-road model, $4700
 water cooled, perimeter frame, fat-top forks, manual start, 265 lbs dry.

KLR650 - street legal model, $3900
 water cooled, perimeter frame, fat-top forks?, electric start, >300 lbs.

I called the dealer in Albuquerque, New Mexico and he says they are due
in any day, and I am welcome to take the first one home.
(Don't tell my wife, but I'm seriously thinking of getting the KLX :)

Rick Ramsey  ramz@lanl.gov  Los Alamos, New Mexico  505/662-2447 evenings.
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From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:19:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Kawasaki 4-stroke info
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt


>   KLX650 street model - rectangular street headlighy w/small number plate,
>   mirrors, handguards, high front fender, high back fender with a medium
>   size tail-light and mud guard/license plate holder attached, no tool
>   bag but a small aluminum-looking rack is affixed behind the long seat,
>   rear-set off-road style side number plates, aluminum muffler, metal
>   gas tank with largish radiator shrouds, frame-mounted passenger pegs.
>   The frame looks lime-green, while the plastic looks black.
>   The bike looks much better than the old KLR, but it's not near as nice
>   looking as it's off-road sibling.  I don't care for black, either.

>   That's all for now, folks.  I'll have more after seeing the sales
>   literature at the dealer tomorrow.

Find out how big the gas tank is.  I hope it's alot bigger than the XR650L.

Thanks,

Frank Ball   1UR-M          frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard             (707) 794-4168 work, (707) 538-3693 home
1212 Valley House Drive     (707) 794-3844 fax, IT175, XT350, Seca 750
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From: erikn@vcd.hp.com (Erik Ness)
Subject: winter NON-riding  :(
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:49:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
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I know these are bad words, but what should I do to prepare my bike for a
long period without riding?  Although I have good intentions, it seems I
won't be riding much this winter.  Specifically, should I drain the carb
and gas tank?  Anything else?

Oh yeah, it's a four stroke, if it matters.

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From: k125366@cc.tut.fi (Korppi Toni)
Subject: Re: Winter Riding Questions
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:54:42 GMT


In rec.motorcycles.dirt you write:

>I'd like to compare notes on setting up bikes for winter riding.  I haven't
>done a lot in the past, but this year I'm determined to keep riding in
>anything less than case-deep snow.  

The way to go, Man!

Forget about screws. Use studs designed especially for enduro or ice-racing.
It certainly helps against wear if the heads are hardened, but on the other 
hand hardened studs cannot be ridden on asphalt for too long since they tend
to break very easily. You ought to find the right kind for your riding habits.

You MUST use glue. It's a waste of money to just stick the studs in the bore-
hole. Some sort of industrial- or super-glue will do the trick.

The more the studs - the more GRIP!

Insulating the carb(s) some way is important when the temperatures get arctic.
Use foam or aluminium foil or anything.
Remember also to make sure that there is no water inside the fuel tank. A gulp
of alcohol (not down your own throat) helps to get rid off it.
 
Question #3: Yes, you definitely are nuts, seriously NUTS!
	     Welcome to join the club!!!

	-Toni
















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From: tjd28@cas.org ()
Subject: Looking for parts...
Organization: Hapless Hackers Corp. Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:35:14 GMT


I am in desparate need of a rear wheel for an '87 KX125.  If
anyone has one or knows where I can get one, I am willing
to buy it from them and pay shipping.


THANKS

Trav
tjd28@cas.org
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: stories
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:28:49 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization:  

In article <1992Nov6.030926.16933@spdc.ti.com>, aweaver@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Andy Weaver) writes:
> 	With as many people that read r.m.d., there are probably some
> pretty good stories that haven't been told here yet.  Let's pull out a

	Well maybe not as good as yours, but I have one or two from my
long history of dirt biking.

	OK, well it's only been months of history  and I only own a
trail bike - but I rode a KDX once!  Honest!  :-o

	Anyway, I was riding my XT in a dual-sport ride in the
Blue Ridge/Massanutten Mountains recently.

	The guy who was runninng the thing came up to me at the start point
and said, "I'm glad to see that there are people who still ride those things!
A friend of mine rides one to work, has 150,000 miles on the clock and has
never had the top end taken apart!"  Thanks, I guess :-)

	So there happened to be some 60-ish guys from NJ there, one of
which had a bike with a license plate that read as follows :

	- in small print on top of the plate "New Jersey".
	- at the bottom in small print, it read "Motorcycle".
	- In the middle was the license in great big letters - "WORST".

So I figured these kindly old grandfather-looking types were probably going
to have a lot of fun.

	Also, I thought it was cool to imagine that I could be doing this
kind of stuff at their age (as opposed to something like, say, roadracing,
which people say is a young person's sport).  If it isn't outlawed by then :-)

	So we all rode out after the rider's meeting.  About halfway through,
I came to one of the points on the trail where you stop and get your poker
card punched.  Those guys were there already, chatting with a few others,
etc.

	The punching station was on a downhill incline, and gravel-paved.
Kind of impatient and wanting to speed off and get underway again,  I stopped,
dropped the kickstand into the gravel and dismounted.  As I did so, the
bike decided it was going to tip over and splat into the gravel, in full
view of everyone who was there.  I just sort of had a surprised look on
my face, not expecting that at all, being so preoccupied.

	After they all stopped laughing the guy from NJ with the funky
bike asked me if I wanted to trade license plates !  I thought I was going
to die laughing.

Rob
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'92 CBR600F2 (Hon) "It hisses on snakes."   AMA 642916   DoD 0593
'79 XT500 (The Bitch)        '90 Plymouth Laser RS (Sweetie)

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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: STARTING
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 07:49:52 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In Article <1992Nov3.073406.775@skitzo.dseg.ti.com>, frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com writes:

>   the fuel mixture in the tank.  I know they mix really well but it would
>   seem as the fuel was to sit undisturbed in the tank for a couple of weeks
>   that the heavier oil would conglomerate in the bottom.  When I can think

	Leaving premixed fuel in your tank for a couple of weeks eh
	Markus?.....tsk tsk tsk...

	No big deal really, but just beware that any 2 stroke oil begins
	breaking down the moment it's mixed with petrol. The longer you
	leave it, the further the break down. Whatever premix is left in
	the tank is drained from any of my 2 strokes before I load them up
	if they've been sitting around for a while. I should really do it
	after the ride, but I'm slack. The fuel I drain is used in the
	lawn mower or I stick it in my wife's car.

	Like I said, no big deal but if you can use fresh fuel, do so.

	Cheers
	George C.

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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: crank bearings: how to tell if bad
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:22:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.1992Nov10.052243.6990
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
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In Article <92314.134939BXJ104@psuvm.psu.edu>, BXJ104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

> ycle shop and the guy says my crank bearings are shot, how can I tell?  Is he p
> ulling my leg?  The bearings seem perfectly fine to me.

	All you need to do is to pull the clutch side gearbox cover off 
	and feel the play in the crank (the shaft with the primary drive
	gear on it). If there is any, they're shot. I don't know what the 
	internals are like, but you may not have to split the cases to 
	change them.

	Hope all goes well.

	Cheers
	George C.
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:28:16 GMT
Subject: Re: another story
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt


Reminds me of the time a buddy got his bike stuck in quicksand.  We were
riding Salt Creek in Canyonlands.  It had been a very wet April.  He
decided to follow someone else through a marshy looking area.  The guy in
front felt his XR350 starting to sink so he gassed it.  Paul wasn't as 
fortunate.

His little IT175 didn't have the grunt needed to escape the quicksand.
When I came across the two of them, the IT was slowly sinking from sight.
They were frantically waving for me to come help.  I did the only sensible
thing.  I found a solid place to park, pulled off my helmet, and clicked
off a couple of photos.  The bike was sunk over the top of the rear wheel
in back and over the cases in the front.  

It was quite an effort for the three of us to yank the sucker out.  We had
to climb in and heave on the count of three.  After every couple of yanks,
we had to free our feet to keep one of us from dissapearing.  It took a
good ten minutes to free the bike.  

Since then, I rely on a tow strap to help yank people out of the gooey
spots.  We'll let them wade around in the muck while we throw them one end
of a line.  Two or three of us can yank on the line from solid ground while
the boots of the hapless pilot fill with primordeal slime. 

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcpe.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.