From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: The short term solution 
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:54:41 GMT

In article <2AAE6E51.12072@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)  
writes:
> 		The Short Term Solution for China
> 
> 
> 			By  Shannon T Yeh
> 
> Disclaimer: If you agree with me, please contact me and act; if you do not 
> 	    agree with me, instead of blaming me, please tell me what your 
> 	    proposed solution is.  Do not spend 99% of your words to describe
> 	    the Chinese problems...
> 
> Definitions
> 
> 	1.  Short Term: not really short, it should be functioning for at least
> 	    100 years.
> 
> [real words start here]
> 
> Part I  Introduction
> 
> A former European leader said "no country will be ruined by its sick  
economy".
> I agree with his point, and I do believe that the Chinese problems are not on
> its economy, for three reasons:
> 
> 	1.  During the past 50 years, China had economic jumps for more than 
> 	    one time: right after the Anti-Japanese War, the Chinese economy 
> 	    was stimulated for a very short while; right after the liberation,
> 	    the Chinese economy kept growing for a couple of years; after
> 	    Deng Xiaoping practised his de facto Have-Milk-Is-Mother
> 	    philosophy, the Chinese economy experienced growth and increditable
> 	    inflation in on-and-off mode.

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Deng Xiaoping's policy is more realistic. At least much better than Mao's.


> 
> 	    So, Deng Xiaoping is not the only guy who could jump the Chinese
> 	    economy for a couple of days.  Based on this logic, Deng Xiaoping's
> 	    policy is no better than other leaders'.  The reason for some 
> 	    people being supportive to Deng Xiaoping is simple: "we have food
> 	    to eat now, why do I have to destroy you?".  This is the typical
> 	    Chinese philosophy: fight for food.
> 
> 	2.  Taiwan and Hongkong Chinese people's living standard is relatively
> 	    better than the PRC Chinese.  Why the Chinese in these islands 
> 	    like to run away from their birth place as soon as they can?

========
Because they are still faced with the gloomy future that they might one day  
fall into CCP's hands. Hongkong is going to fall into CCP's hands in 5 years.  
People leave their birth place for a peaceful and better living. You can't  
blame people for doing this. You are one of them.


> 
> 	3.  It's a fact that Sun Zhongshan brought some civilation progress 
> 	    to China;  it's also a fact that Jiang Jieshi brought some social
> 	    progress to China;  like it or not, it is my firm belief that 
> 	    Chairman Mao brought China bigger social progress.  Because of 
> 	    these social progress, today's China, regardless how poor it is,
> 	    is totally different from its used-to-be 100 years ago.

========
Mao is one of the greatest devils in Chinese history. He is a destroyer, not a  
builder. Only people who love wars and destructions will like Mao. Because of  
Mao's policy, China was left behind. The distance between Chinese and Japanese  
economies was much shorter 50 years ago than now.  

> 	    
> 	    However, all these three historical men achieved the social 
> 	    progress for China through no other means except wars.  It's
> 	    easy to understand that there were deaths involved in each wars.
> 	    The younger generation of those who were shot by CCP hate CCP;
> 	    the younger generation of those who were shot by KMT hate KMT.
> 	    Now, we run into an indefinite loop: let's assume Mr. XYZ is an
> 	    in-power CCP guy, and Mr. ABC is a son of a KMT officer who were 
> 	    shot 45 years ago by CCP, if Mr. ABC decides to shoot Mr. XZY
> 	    to death, then, Mr. XYZ's son will shoot back to ABC's son some
> 	    day.  That's one of the major reasons for some d-fighters to
> 	    work hard to destroy CCP.
> 
> 	    One of the obvious things is:  even the Chinese GNP becomes #1
> 	    in the world, those d-fighters will still try hard to destroy
> 	    CCP if CCP is still in power.  Well, if those d-fighters are really
> 	    democratic, people will not be bothered by giving power to those
> 	    d-fighters.  But the issue is: those d-fighters are at least no
> 	    better than CCP in terms of their understanding toward democracy.
> 

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Before China becomes a relatively more democratic country, China's GNP will not  
becomes #1. Although I do not agree with the D-fighters in many issues, I think  
the D-fighters are at least better than CCP.

> Part II  You can only see "Tolerance" in a Chinese dictionary;
>          You can hardly see "Tolerance" in the real world life among Chinese
> 
> Tolerance is the minimum thing in the explanation of democracy, but there is  
no
> tolerance among Chinese.
> 
> During Lao Jiang's time, many of those who were Mao compatible were shot to
> death--no tolerance;
> 
> When Chairman Mao liberated China, he shooted many old farm owners to  
death--no
> tolerance (please note that those old farm owners werelegal to do their  
farming
> business be4 Mao became the emperor);  
> 
> When those d-fighters finally ran out of China, they tried hard and are still
> trying hard to fuck CCP's grandmother--no tolerance.
> 
> .....
> 

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Yes! We need tolerance. But we can't forget anything.

> 
> Part III  They all understand the problems, but they do not like to take  
action
> 	  on it
> 
> I have been talking about this point for years.  So, I leave this part empty.
> 
> Part IV  The short term (100 years) solution
> 
> 
>     |      |------|  ---- ---   ------     --------    /    /___    --- ----
>  |--|---|  | ---- |  |--  |__  |--|---|   |--|--|--|  /|---     |   |-| /_|__
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>     |      | __|\_|  |    / | ----------    ___/__/_   |__|    \|   | \   /\
>     |      |______|  |   /  |  ___|____        \/                   |/   /   
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>                                | |  | |        /\
> 
>  
>   -------    |===|     -----    ___\___   _|_|__    ------  |====|    --- /__
>     /|\    ---------   |---|     --|--     | | |      /|\  --------   __|  \/
>    / | \      /|__     |--|-    ___|____   |_____\   / | \   /|_____  |    /\
>      |       /\|_____  |/  \|			       |    /\|______ |/  /  \
> 
> 
>   ___\____
>   |------|
>   |______|
>   |  \
>   |   \/
>   |/   \__  
> 
> 
> 
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>  |__|___|  | --|- |  |_|  | |  |==|===|   |__|__|__|   |--|   \ |     /|___
>     |      | __|\_|  |    / | ----------    ___/__/_   |__|    \|    /\|_____
>     |      |______|  |   /  |  ___|____        \/                   
>                                | |  | |        /\
>  
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> 					       \|
> 
>  
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>   |    \/       | ---|--    |  --|---   ---------|   ---|---        --|--
>   | |------|    |   \|    |---|  \/    -----|----|- ___\|/___   /_\  ---
>   | |---|--|    |    |    |___|  /\_|   ----|----|     /|\          |----|
>   | |---|--|    |   \|                      |         / | \     /|\ |    |
>   /\_________	/\______		   \|           |        |  |____|
> 
> 
>   ____|____    _\_     |      __|__     /   /___         |  -----   |-----|
>  _____|_____     |  ---|--  ____|____  /|--|   |        -|--   /|   |--|--|
>  |____|____|     |   \ |        /       |--| / |   ----  |    / |   |__/\_|
>      /|\         |     |       /___\    |__|  \|         |/  / \|  
/|___\____\\
>     / | \        |    \|
>    /  |  \       /\_______
> 
> 
> 
>   |-----|        /\  ---        /\  ---
>   |--|--|       /\/  |-|       /\/  |-|
>   |__/\_|        /   |___\      /   |__\    (of course there will be new EnEn 
>                                              and new YuanYuan, but one thing 
> /|____\__| \   /|___\____|\   /|___\___|\ ;  one step)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _\_  ------   _\_    |      |__  | \      /---/         |          /__|___
>   |    \/       | ---|--    |  --|---   ---------|   ---|---    \ ____|____
>   | |------|    |   \|    |---|  \/    -----|----|- ___\|/___   \    |  |
>   | |---|--|    |    |    |___|  /\_|   ----|----|     /|\           /  |
>   | |---|--|    |   \|                      |         / | \     |/  /   |___\
>   /\_________	/\______		   \|           |       
> 
> 
>  __\_   |        ---- |\     / \____    /    /___    ___\____   /  |
>     /   |      ---|---|--   /| |   |   /|--|    |      \  /    /|  |---
>    /|   |         |/  |/     | |   |    |--|  / |       \/      |  |
>   / |/  |        /|   /|     | |   |    |__|   \|       /\      |  |
>     |\  |         |    \     | |   |                   /  \     |  |____\
>     |   |____\   \|     \_\  | |  \|                  /    \
> 
> 
>   
>       |       ____\____    ____\___     ___\___         |           |
>   ----|----   | ----- |    |------      |-----     |  --|--    |  --|---
>       /\          /|      \|  \/       \|  \/    |-|- __|_|  |-|- __|__|
>      /  \         /|/     /||-----|    /||----|    |    /\     |    /\
>     /    \        /|\      ||==|==|     ||==|=|    |   /  \    |   /  \
> 		  \|      / |  |  |     ||  | |       /    \      /    \
> 
>    
>   __|__ ---   /___ /\    __\___      ------     |   __\___   -----  ___\____
>     |/   |    |-|| \/         /      |----    --|--  |==|    |---|   ___|__
>    /|    |    |_|| //\       /       ||--|      |/  -------  |--|-  ____|____
>    \|   \|      \|  \/      /_____   ||__|     /|   | |-| |  |/  \|
>                     /               /       ,  \|   | |_|\|
> 
>   		  |  __|___     |-|  __\_/__      |___  | \              
>    __|__|__     |-|- __|__|     |||  --|--|--     |___ -|--   __|__|__  
>      |  | |       |    /\        /\ ---|--|-|--   __|__-|---    |  | |  
>      |______\     |   /  \ ,         --|--|--       |    \/     |______\
>                                       /|  |\        |/   /\|
> 
>      |  __|__
>    |-|- __|__|
>      |    /\
>          /  \ .

========
What's wrong! You were just now talking about tolerance. Now you are promoting  
war. What's your logics? Are you suddenly out of your mind? Oh, I see! That's  
why you like Mao. That's why you promot blind loyalty. I think you won't feel  
happy until you see Chinese are all destroyed by the war. 

I hope you will be destroyed by the war.

Carl 
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