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From: Rudolf Vetschera <WSVETSCH@DKNKURZ1.BITNET>
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Subject: Character styles in W4W?
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Hi, all
I am slowly moving from Word for DOS to Word for Windows and have a problem:
In Word for DOS, it was posible to assign styles at both the paragraph level
and the character level (e.g. have all keywords etc in a text printed as
courier boldface by assigning them a character style, and the standard text
in times roman.
It seems to me that W4W only has named styles at the paragraph level. When I
assign a character format to such a style, W4W formats the entire paragraph
that way.
Of course, I can write a macro to do the desired character formatting. But
this does not remember that the text is e.g. a keyword, and if I decide to
change all keywords form boldface to italic, I have to go throught the entire
text with search/replace format.
Did I miss something or was that feature really dropped?
From: SNISSEN%ADMIN1@carleton.edu (Sande Nissen, CompuCtr (SoftServ))
Newsgroups: bit.mailserv.word-pc
Subject: Re: Suppressing screen updates during a WinWOrd macro
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:02:13 GMT
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    I do recall reading about a way to suppress screen updates from a
    WinWord macro.  As I recall, you don't need to get a DLL from anywhere;
    you just need to call the right function within one of Windows' Dynamic
    Link Libraries, probably USER.EXE or GDI.EXE.  Unfortunately, I don't
    recall the function you need, though it would be included in any
    Windows API reference.

    I do remember where I read this technique, along with many other
    WinWord macro hints.  The best advanced source is Microsoft's WinWord
    Macro Development Kit, about $25 from Microsoft.  It is mostly
    collected articles from the first WinWord programming conference more
    than a year ago.  Another useful reference, especially for beginners,
    is Woody Leonhard's book, "Windows Programming for Mere Mortals".  One
    of these two references (or perhaps both) has the answer to your
    question.				Sande

				Sande Nissen
				Computer Center, Carleton College
				Internet: snissen@carleton.edu
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 09:41:53 EDT
From: Rob Smyser <smyser@Athena.MIT.EDU>
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Wordperfect's strategy for running on every platform is part of their
heritage (they began as I recall on some minicomputer-like thing and
ported that to the PC back in 1984 or 85...) and a very pre-X, pre-Open
Systems idea.  I notice the workstation version took over 18 months to
catch up to version 5.1 after it came out on PCs.  Not great.

Admittedly, Framemaker has successfully (I think) created a really good
all-three-platforms product, now that the Windows and Mac versions are out.
But this is a WORD-PC mailing list so we won't talk about Frame.

To run Word, you could trick it into being multi-platform in effect by:

  a) running SoftAT (or its equal) on your workstation, and run Word
     inside that.

  b) run Desqview/X and NFS on a PC; have the PC mount the unix
     filesystem where your files are; log into the PC from the workstation
     and start a Windows session whose display gets sent to your
     workstation.  Run Word in that window and edit the file.

If the PC and/or the workstation are sufficiently powerful, you might not
notice any hit on performance.



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help
From: walsh@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Edward E Walsh)
Newsgroups: bit.mailserv.word-pc
Subject: Re: Conversion from MultiMate to WordPerfect
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:15:19 GMT
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Word for Word actually handles MultiMate 3.3, not 3.2 files.  It would
probably be worth a try, of course.
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UNSUBSCRIBE JOHN B. BECK
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From: jezsik@px2.stfx.ca (Louis Jezsik)
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I was under the impression that WordPerfect Corp wanted to put WP
on numerous platforms as a marketing strategy (Hey, you can use
WP anywhere!).  I really can't see MS bothering with a Unix version
of Word when they are busy working to build a coffin for Unix
Louis
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Please unsubscribe Gillian A. Wiedorn.
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I tried mailing a message to word-pc-request, but it bounced.  Please remove
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From: mikes@biochemistry.oxford.ac.uk
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Subject: Word for X??
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:19:00 GMT
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Now that WordPerfect is available on Unix systems, is there any indication
the same will soon be the case for Word?

Mike
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Subject: RE: HELP
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:27:18 GMT
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Better than unsubscribing (unless you *want* to unsubscribe permanently),
just set WORD-PC not to send you mail. You do this by sending a
message to LISTSERV at the same node as WORD-PC is on, with no
subject and the text SET WORD-PC NOMAIL. When you come back you
start getting mail again with the message SET WORD-PC MAIL. This
works for most (all?) LISTSERV lists.

Judy Koren, Haifa (judyk@lib.technion.ac.il)
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Hans,
	I liked your idea about plotting amino acid distribution
with the map programs, so I tried it out. MAPPLOT gives
a highly erroneous output for protein sequences, as it
seems to assume that the sequence is  *always* DNA.
It uses the IUB/GCG DNA ambiguity code to match many of the
single letter codes for amino acids.

I think it would be appreciated then if the GCG people altered
MAPPLOT so it could work with protein sequences too.

Duncan Rouch
University of Birmingham, UK
From: MARK@CUCCFA.BITNET (T. Mark Reboul)
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Subject: The error of my ways
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Okay, I see now that I was wrong in defending this guy McElwaine's
first message. I didn't know he was already well-known as a crank
contributor. The main problem is he's posting messages which are
IRRELEVANT to the focus of our discussion.

I hope nobody minds, but I sent an e-mail message to SYSTEM@UWEC.Bitnet
(and a copy to John Cargill) asking that person to please dissuade
McElwaine from further irrelevant postings to INFO-GCG, suggesting
that McElwaine is always free to start his own INFO-MCELWAINE group,
stating that the open-access nature of the network makes it an
extremely useful tool for getting technical work done (i.e., discussion
of ideas and search for information), and finally recommending that
if McElwaine does not stop his computer account @ UWEC should be
terminated because he is misusing this network resource.

-- Mark Reboul
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From:         Jaime Prilusky <LSPRILUS@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      EasyMenu, a GCG utility

EASYMENU provides a Menu Driven access to the programs contained into the
Genetics Computer Group's package. The programs and utilities are divided into
groups accordingly to subjects, following the Index of the GCG Program Manual.
Each entry of the Menu provides a short one-line description of the program
activity, serving as a handy reminder.

From EASYMENU you can access the extended help of the GCG package, or run the
selected program both in interactive or batch mode.

Works under VMS (VAX) GCG (6.x and 7.x).

To obtain EasyMenu by anonymous ftp:

  sunbcd.weizmann.ac.il  (132.76.64.25)  directory /pub/software/vax
  ftp.EMBL-Heidelberg.de (192.54.41.33)  directory /pub/software/vax
  fly.bio.indiana.edu    (129.79.224.25) directory  molbio/gcg
  evolution.bchs.uh.edu  (129.7.2.43)    directory /pub/gene-server/vms


To obtain EasyMenu by email:

  send email to  NetServ@EMBL-Heidelberg.de
       with the following text GET VAX_SOFTWARE:EASYMENU.UUE

 Dr Jaime Prilusky
 Israel National Node   INN          ! LSPRILUS@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
 Weizmann Institute of Science       ! fax: 972-8-344113
 76100 Rehovot - Israel              ! tel: 972-8-342470 / 2979
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              Oct 8, 92 5:49 pm

Jaime Prilusky said:
> To obtain EasyMenu by email:
>   send email to  NetServ@EMBL-Heidelberg.de
>        with the following text GET VAX_SOFTWARE:EASYMENU.UUE

Or by e-mail to
        gene-server@bchs.uh.edu
with the line SEND VMS easymenu.uue

dan
gene-server manager

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QUERY INFO-GCG
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From:         BIONET@FRCGM51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Biological transmutations

        Well well, another posting which raises once more the question

        "how could we prevent such craps to disseminate on the nets?"

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From: hvos@nki.nl
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.info-gcg
Subject: Amino acid distribution using MAPPLOT
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:06:54 GMT

Hi netters,

every once in a while a get the urge to make a graphic display of
the amino acid distribution in a protein using the MAPPLOT program.
To this end, I have made a PROENZYME.DAT file with the names and the 
single letter amino acid abbreviations as cut site. This file works fine 
in combination with the MAP program, and it even works with the MAPSORT 
program if I rename it ENZYME.DAT and run the program with /PERF(ect) on 
the command line (otherwise the program finds an ASN (N(!)) at every 
position). However, using MAPPLOT i get the message "No cuts (or sites)
found" and no output appears. I really would like to get this running, because
MAPSORT simply does not show it all in a single view. Does anyone in Netland
have any suggestions?

                        Hans Vos
                        Netherlands Cancer Institute
                        Amsterdam
                        
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From: rouchda@vax1.bham.ac.uk
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Subject: Oligo Farm
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:02:19 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham

Hi Netters,
	Here's a way I've found useful for handling oligo information.

Put your oligo sequences into a file, in GCG MAP FORMAT
(as described in the dataset appendix manual, and shown below). 
This allows you to use your oligo sequences with MAP, MAPSORT, 
MAPPLOT and FINDPATTERNS.

With MAP format you can list all your oligo sequences and any related
information, like melting temperature all in one file. Of course, it might
be better to have separate files for different projects in the lab.
Anyway, it saves me scrabbling for the oligo data sheets (where is
that folder?).

I've made an 'oligo farm' file for 57 oligos from a sequencing
project so we know what oligos we've got and can instantly find
which ones occur in an area of the sequence we want to do
something further with.


The format looks like this:

------------------file starts below this line -----------------------------

comments....e.g., MAP and MAPSORT will mark the position of the 5' end
of each oligo.
(you must have the two dots on the next line)
..
NAME1	1	ATGATCTAAATCCAACCG	-1	! any comment,e.g. which strand
NAME2	1	CCTTTAACTGTACAAGCGT	-1	! any comment,e.g. melt temp.
. 
.
etc
-----------------end of file ----------------------------------------------

In each line the positions aren't important, you just have to have
spaces between the 5 bits. The 1 in the second area means the programs
will mark the 5' end of the oligo, and -1 in the 4th area makes the programs 
look for the oligo on the -strand of your sequence too. If you don't
want to do that then leave the -1 out (just have a blank space).

Call your file, for example, oligos.dat.
Then run MAP or MAPSORT or FINDPATTERNS with 
 /data=oligos.dat (in the VAX version of GCG), 
or naturally substitute "-" for "/" if you are using the UNIX version, e.g.,

map /data=oligos.dat
or
mapsort /data=oligos.dat /mismatch=4
if you want to allow for mismatches.

MAP allows only a maximum of 4 mismatches, whereas FINDPATTERNS
allows as many as you like.


Duncan Rouch
University of Birmingham, UK
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From: "rick menaul" <rick.menaul@channel1.com>
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Subject: hosp census database
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:53:56 EST
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Where can I obtain a copy of the Hospital Census Database on disk?

                             -= Rick Menaul =-
                                Boston, Massachusetts
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Subject:      Why Mednews Has Been Quiet?

As many regular readers have noticed, there has not been an issue of Mednews
since April.  Several things have happened in my life, and several things will
need to happen to get Mednews back online.

(1) After minimal support from the original sponsor over the past few years,
St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center Phoenix has failed to provide any
financially support, or to allow me to go to an outside source for that
support.

(2) I also have a new son, it is our first child and everyone is right, he
takes up an unbelievable amount of time.

(3) I have seen a tremendous growth in Mednews over the years.  What started
off as a lark, now has an estimated readership of over 50,000 world-wide.  It
is the only FREE medical newsletter that I know of that is distributed
electronically.


What can we do to get Mednews back on track?

(1) Basically financial support and editorial support!

First, I need help in locating a financial sponsor.  Basically I need to
upgrade the OCR software to allow easier scanning of articles.  At the moment,
I have been scanning all articles with a Logitech HandScanner.  This proves
very time consuming.  Also the software I have been using, works reasonably
well, but not quite good enough to save time.

Better hardware would also be nice.  It seems that most of the better OCR
packages have gone "Windows", something I can not support with the present
hardware.  I would also like to provide a FAX service, but this would also
require some additional hardware, in terms of a FAX board, etc.

Editorial support is also needed.  I could use several individuals who would
be willing to be responsible for a section of the newsletter.  This would mean
a regular submission in their area of interest.  At the moment, the newsletter
easily takes me 5 to 10 hours a week to do.  If a dozen individuals step
forward, this time will become minimal, we could increase the frequency of the
newsletter, and increase both the editorial content and quality.

So please let me know how you can help.  This is the only way this newsletter
will survive.  It has simply grown too large for a single-person operation.
If I do not receive any help, the newsletter will simply die.  It is just that
simple.

Thank you, and I hope to hear from some of you soon.

Sincerely,

David Dodell, DMD
Editor, HICNet Newsletter (alias MEDNEWS)



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From:         Ron Wigmore <SYST8103@RYEVM.RYERSON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Sort Ascending And Descending

>THE GAR <GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET> Writes:
>I am trying to do a quickee exec to specify how I want my reader
>ordered before I enter it.  What I would REALLY like to do is
>have a Sort by date DESCENDING and within that sort by name
>ASCENDING.  They XEDIT SORT command only allows everything a or
>everything D.  Can someone suggest an alternative?  (that doesn't
>run too slowly?)

The fastest way is to have your exec issue the sort command twice.
eg. do a "SORT D nn mm" followed by a "SORT A oo pp".  It'll get
you the results that you want.

>/*  Stack sort for RDRLIST before entering */
>IF ARG() = 0 THEN INPUT = "NAMEDATEDOWN"
                            ||||||||||||
>   ELSE ARG INPUT;
>SELECT
>   WHEN SORTBY = "DATENAMEDOWN"; THEN QUEUE "SORT * D 63 68 16 23 6 13";
                   ||||||||||||
>   WHEN SORTBY = "DATENAMEUP"; THEN QUEUE "SORT * 63 68 16 23 6 13";

Typo's can be so time consuming.  :-)

Ron,,,
Hmmm, how many weeks are there in a light year, anyways?  :-)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:00:55 EDT
From:         Ben Chi <BEC@ALBANY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 255 chars in xedit

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:09:45 MST Keith DiNicola said:
>XEDIT is not limited to 255 byte records.  Not sure what the maximum
>length if any is (virtual machine size may be the limiting factor).
>try this:
>
>        xedit test data a (width 50000

Well, yes, DO try this.  If you do, you'll get RECFM F, LRECL 80, ir-
respective of what width you specify.  If you look in the XEDIT Com-
mand and Macro Reference, Appendix A, you'll find a table to file-
type defaults -- your choice of filetype determines the initial RECFM.
DATA is "other," which means RECFM F.  And for reasons I don't under-
stand, if RECFM = F, then the WIDTH option is ignored in the XEDIT call.
(Can someone shine some light on this?)

Now if you had chosen filetype BASDATA, say, (RECFM = V), then

       xedit test basdata a (width 50000

would have given you what you wanted.  In fact, if I want to specify a
WIDTH, I use filetype BASDATA in the XEDIT call and then give the
XEDIT subcommand  FTYPE FOO  to change the filetype to what I really
wanted it to be (FOO, say).  This way eliminates need for LRECL and
TRUNC subcommands.
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