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From: boerio@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jeff Boerio)
Subject: Re: Rush/Charities/Causes
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:23:53 GMT

In <1egs5cINNhfb@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu> fjs@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:


>I am curious to know if anyone has an idea about which `charitable 
>organizations' the members of Rush find credible and worthwhile.  

Well, I just recently attended an event for Muscular Distrophy.  It was an
auction that featured over 300 items from celebrities.  At this particular
auction were several items from Rush, including:

	a white guitar signed by all three members ($1475.00)
	two copies of "Presto" signed by all three members ($62.50 each)
	a pair of Neil's drumsticks, signed ($130.00)
	several guitar picks
	a 'Roll the Bones' flat (picture of cover), signed (???)

So it would seem that Rush finds MDA to be a worthwhile cause.  I don't
know if they know how much moeny was donated for these items though.  It
was a lot of fun.

     - Jeff
-- 

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From: mcarey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (M A Carey)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Dream Theatre
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:23:28 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

I've seen people listing Dream Theatre as one of their favorites besides
Rush and also as an opening act.  My question is who are they?  How is
their music.  You need not respond in this newsgroup, e-mail would be just
fine.


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius   )
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:32:00 GMT

Yes/Rush combined tour?!?!?!?

Think of the elements besides music!!!

Combined millionaire sets...
Eleven-man combined finale number (Xanadu?!?!?!?)
Roger Dean artwork... Neil Peart lyrics...
Rick Wakeman keyboard lines...

You guys are making my blood pressure skyrocket here.

However, a Lifeson/Rabin duo wouldn't be bad at all...

* * * * * * * * * *

Sven Skoog
(Marius)
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

* * * * * * * * * *

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: RE Books of fear
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:09:56 GMT

In article <98062@netnews.upenn.edu>, ian@meringue.seas.upenn.edu (Ian M Glazer) writes:
> This maybe be a FAQ, but I'll ask it anyway. (If it is a FAQ then flame away.
> I derseve it.)
> 
> What are the three books of fear?  I know that THE ENEMY WITHIN is part 3 and
> WITCH HUNT is part 1, but what if Peart talking about? Someone please help.
> It's been bothering me for awhile.
> 
> Ian Glazer
> ian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
> 
> "I'm not giving in..."
Actually, Withc Hunt is part 3, The Enemy Within is part 1, and The Weapon is
part 2.
From: isaac@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:03:14 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 >         I guess this person just hasn't been able to go digital as
 > of yet. I am sure that, as most record companies do, Mercury
 > discriminates against non-CD buyers who must deal w/ tapes and they
 > don't include the liner notes on tape reissues.  (my copy of Pwaves
 > doesn't have lyrics...)

Actually, it's nothing so conspiratorial, really.  A lot of record companies
included lyrics with the LP versions of their albums, but don't do it on
the tape OR the CD.  It's just a matter of space.  I personally don't think
there's any excuse for not including the lyrics on a CD, but its obviously
a cheesy cost-cutting method.  With the tape, though, those ten-page 
cassette foldouts with tiny type are just dumb.  Most people can do
without, when it comes right down to it.  They include lyrics with a lot of
vinyl editions, though, because it's easy enough to either print them up
on the record sleeve or include a lyric sheet on cheap paper, as big as
they please.  With the CD, you need to include extra pages and often 
staples to make the booklet (ooo! extra expensive!).  With the tape, the
cardstock paper they use to make the cassette liner is again, more
expensive than the way they do it on the LP versions.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: joverton@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Jeremiah Overton)
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:52:44 GMT

In article <BxvArJ.I6D@ns1.nodak.edu> abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson) writes:
>In article <721998665.15069@minster.york.ac.uk> aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>>: Rush is still alive.... Much more succesfull than RP/JP/JPJ solo, combined.
>>
>>JPJ is very successful in the realm of film soundtracks - more than 
>>Rush are now or are ever likely to be....
>
>In a Rockline interview someone asked Geddy about film soundtracks, Ged
>commented on the fact that while they are not disinterested in doing it
>they aren't going out of their way to do it.  The point is they are doing real
>music, not backing up some lame movie! As far as I am concerned doing 
>movie soundtracks means you can't make it any other way.
>-- 

I dont agree with this.  I think alot of Rush's music would only make some
movies better.  You dont have to make the music slave to the movie, you
know....You could just take a fitting song.  We're not talking rock-operas
here, just a damn good soundtrack to a movie.
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
Jeremiah Overton is going to see Asia Friday nite :)
                joverton@ic.sunysb.edu
joverton@ccsinc.sunysb.edu 	   jeremiah@pharm.sunysb.edu


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:46:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.230120.1067@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> slevine@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Steffan Levine) writes:
>In article <BxLwxM.EuC@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
>>Rivendell - How long can it take before you are put to sleep?
>>
>I'd have to say 'Here Again'.

There aren't any Rush songs I really don't like.  and...Hey!  I -like- Here
Again!  not only is it way cool, but it shows the ususal "acoustic intro
then we'll hit 'em with power chords" technique so overused in recent years,
only 10 years before it was 'discovered'...quite an accomplishment :)  maybe
everyone else is ripping off Rush, not the other way around like the 
flamebaiters like to claim... :)


-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
   Ask me about the GS<>IRC demo...better yet ask daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: heistp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter G. Heist Jr.)
Subject: LedZep and Rush
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:34:49 GMT


Does anyone feel that it is a bit intellectually poor to compare apples and
oranges?

Aside from that Rush fans usually impress me with their "thinking" attitudes.
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: TNMS and alt.music.rush (was: Re: Rush's worst song)
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:30:27 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <leo.722164927@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl writes:
>jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>> I think there is one good reason for the existence of this newsgroup:
>> it allows people to _discover_ TNMS (The National Midnight Star), the
>> mailing list. Many people find this newsgroup without knowing about
>> TNMS. Once they find out about TNMS they can add their names to the 
>> list and discover higher quality discussions. I don't think making
>> alt.music.rush was a lousy idea for exactly that reason.


>Sorry Gregg, but that is a *ridiculous* reason (and please: this is
>not a flame, just a very strong disagreement).


>Saying that a.m.rush is justified as a newsgroup because it may bring
>people in contact with TNMS is screwed, upside-down logic. A newsgroup
>should be judged on its own merits *as a newsgroup*. What you are
>saying is: "well hey, a.m.rush may be useless, but at least it causes
>people to find out about TNMS, where the *real* action is happening."


Sure, but note that I said it was _one_ good reason. I also think there
is 20% of discussion which is excellent. Maybe that signal/noise is a
bit small but I don't mind. And I think it's sufficient reason _not_ to
think of the group as lousy. 


>Back then, when we politely pointed out: "but there is already a
>mailing list", we got flamed to death and accused of wanting to deny
>people the right to their very own newsgroup, and eventually the alt
>group was created even though the 'real' vote for rec.music.rush
>failed miserably. And now you come and tell me the newsgroup is a Good
>Thing because it shows people the way to the mailing list. Can you
>understand that this ticks me off a bit?


Sure, but I think there are alot of people here who are _very_ happy
with this as a newsgroup. There are even bloody "David Letterman" and
"Ren and Stimpy" newsgroups. alt.music.rush is certainly not a below
average quality alt. newsgroup.


>Also, there are so many other ways in which TNMS could advertise its
>existence.[...] But all that advertising is currently *not* happening, 
>and people tend to conveniently forget there are still large parts of 
>the net that do not get the alt.hierarchy, so TNMS is still missing out
>on many potential members, who *really* have no easy way of finding out
>about that list.  Strange how nobody seems to care about them.

That's true, but I still thing the group is a good thing and so do most
of the people posting here.

>Just wanted to get this off my chest.

>Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)

No problem Leo, but I still like the newsgroup. :)


Gregg

-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                "You may _not_ touch my monkey" -Dieter
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: FAQ thanx
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:24:49 GMT

	To everyone who sent me FAQ's, THANKS!  To anyone who wishes to
send me one.  Please don't.  My mailer-daemon hates me enough already, since
I got a few copies in my mbox.  Oh, the bureaucrats...  :-)

				Thanks Again

				CKA

-- 
"The Clergy Dazzle us with Heaven or they Damn us into Hell"  Billy Bragg!!!!!
IIIII  L    L    IIIII NNNNN IIIII   Chintan Amin c-amin1@uiuc.edu DEPT of E.E.
  I    L    L      I   N   N   I   RUSH	YES FLOYD METALLICA PEARLJAM REM PG
IIIII  LLLL LLLL IIIII N   N IIIII   GO TARHEELS  GO CAPITALS GO COWBOYS
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's (Worst?) song
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:41:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Utah Valley Community College

In article <1992Nov12.031303.25559@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel) writes:
> Actually I find The Twilight Zone sort of cool.  The song that
> I skip almost every time is Didacts and Narpets from Fly By
> Night.
> 
> Bill

Isn't Didacts and Narpets the drum bit after the opening songlet of side 2 on
Caress of Steel?  Sorry to get so descriptive about where to find it, I can't
remember the name of that album-side.

	Just call me Earl
From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:17:01 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1e6gl6INNrnc@bigboote.WPI.EDU> chadwemy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chad Barret Wemyss) writes:
>In article <92318.120342MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> <MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>My father hs a country gaze that no one knew about...
>>He said it used to be a farm until...
>>
>>Until what, this is my question.....
>>
>>Is it ...until they mowed the lawn?

[stuff deleted....]

I don't know if this is true for a different medium, but my cd of Moving
Pictures has the lyrics listed in the little book that comes inside the
jewel case. Why not just read them?

:-)(?)
-- 
Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
       Sorry if I sound stupid I just don't have my FAQ's straight         
        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
                      abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
                      abrahams@plains           (BITNET)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Rush Keyboardist?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:11:22 GMT

In article <BxyGoq.L8r@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius   ) writes:
>Pre-Post Disclaimer:
>
>All dedicated power trio fans PLEASE disregard this as a figment
>of your intellectual imaginations... :)
>
>Coming out of a Boston-based band (Korg T1, thank you very much)
>I'd kind of like to get a feel for answers to this question--
>
>In what ways do you think Rush's music would change with the
>addition of a fourth member?  (Essentially synthesizers, maybe
>backup vocals if that wouldn't be TOO much of a change.)

	I don't know.  I have pondered this much (really!).  And can't come
up with an answer.  Maybe if the guy fit in properly with the other members
of the band.  I think that the fact that they tried a fourth member on tour
and don't have him anymore is a testament to chemistry.  I think that maybe 
a fourth person would be helpfull in doing the things that they do on the 
studio, but so would a good sequencing system...


-- 
"The Clergy Dazzle us with Heaven or they Damn us into Hell"  Billy Bragg!!!!!
IIIII  L    L    IIIII NNNNN IIIII   Chintan Amin c-amin1@uiuc.edu DEPT of E.E.
  I    L    L      I   N   N   I   RUSH	YES FLOYD METALLICA PEARLJAM REM PG
IIIII  LLLL LLLL IIIII N   N IIIII   GO TARHEELS  GO CAPITALS GO COWBOYS 
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ii67@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: New Album?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:48:52 GMT

In article <By6rvv.98s@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, analog@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Monahan) writes:
> In article <By5oL8.GAn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius) writes:
>>I don't *believe* this is a FAQ...
>>sorry if it is...
>>
>>Rush's studio schedule would put their new album up around
>>fall of '93... (going on the every 2 years rule of thumb)
>>
>>Does anybody know anything about this?  Release date?
>>(approximate) NAME?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>* * * * *
>>
>>Marius
>>ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>>
>>* * * * *
>>
> 
> 
> 	Okay, take this with a grain (or maybe a rock) of salt.
> 
> 	I have a friend (here we go) who's uncle works at Tower
> Records in NYC, and consequently meets and/or corresponds with all
> sorts of people "in the know", including the occasional band member.
> Anyway, this uncle says that the new Rush album is shaping up to 
> be a concept album along the lines of Hemispheres or 2112.
> 
> 	Can anyone out there confirm or refute this tantalizing rumor.
> Or if not, theorize on the ramifications of this kind of move on the 
> part of the band, ie. is it a step in the right direction, or an act
> of decadence?
> 
> 				Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> 	The Analog Person-(Michael J. Monahan) analog@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
> 	Suffering is the origin of conciousness-Dostoyevsky
> 	We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost-Neil Peart
> 	Well, the silly party has won.  I believe this is largely due to 
> 	the number of votes cast!- Monty Python's Flying Circus 
>
I doubt that the new album is going to be concept (in the 
"2112"-like use of the word).  In the recent Rockline, someone 
asked Neil if they would consider doing one again.  He didn't 
rule it out, but reinforced his observation that nowadays they 
can get their message across just as well in a 3-minute song 
as oppossed to a 30-minute piece.
 
:)
From: wipperma9340@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: worst results
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:11:08 -0600
Summary: diverse hatred
Reply-To: wipperma9340
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I don't have the exact numbers with me, but it appears that no real consensus
exists as far as the worst song.  Many of their disappointments were mentioned,
however.  The most interesting thing about the whole idea was the devotion that
some people showed to a song that others deplore.  Someone even told another
person go hang themselves.  I wouldn't want that on my conscience.  Moreover,
it would simple give ammunition to the whackos who think that Rush is a satanic
cult.  Please, don't kill yourself over the survey.

A few songs were mentioned more than once:  Scars, Rivendell, Tom Sawyer, Take
a Friend, plus a couple more.  Other than that, I'd say about 20 songs ranging
from Ghost of a Chance to I Think I'm Going Bald managed to make it on the
list.  

My choice for the worst song?  Rivendell.

Yours etc,

The Analog Kid
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:24:15 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BxxGMq.245@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:

>	Here is a thread that I hAven't seen here.  What do you think 
>wo=ld be a good (or great) band to see open for Rush?  My two pennies would
>go to either Pearl Jam Sugar or Metallica.  How 'bout yall?

Those both sound like opening acts I would actually like to see. Their last
opener (it was some guitarist who) - in my own opinion - SUCKED! Also, I
wouldn't mind seeing Bad Company, Queensryche, or Areosmith. I wouldn't
seeing Megadeth or Judas Priest, but somehow they can't really properlly
introduce Rush - call it intuition.

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York
Organization: Senior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:03:22 -0500 
From: Jennifer Yablonsky <jy0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: john rutsey

hey you rush lovers

does anybody know what happened to john rutsey(the original drummer when
they were still a poorman's led zeppelin)?


"and the men who hold high places, must be the one who start
to mold a new reality...
closer to the heart"
                                           -Neil Peart
From: chadwemy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chad Barret Wemyss)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:49:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <92318.120342MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> <MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>My father hs a country gaze that no one knew about...
>He said it used to be a farm until...
>
>Until what, this is my question.....
>
>Is it ...until they mowed the lawn?
>

As far as I can tell, it sounds like :
	My uncle has a country place
	That no one knows about
	He said it used to be a farm, 
	Before the motor laws...

This is one of my favorite Rush songs, along with Witch Hunt, but I cant 
remember all of the lyrics right now.  I'll have to go home and listen to it 
tonight.  When I get the rest of the song, I'll post it, unless someone beats 
me to it.

Chad Wemyss
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
From: ian@meringue.seas.upenn.edu (Ian M Glazer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: RE Books of fear
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:05:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

This maybe be a FAQ, but I'll ask it anyway. (If it is a FAQ then flame away.
I derseve it.)

What are the three books of fear?  I know that THE ENEMY WITHIN is part 3 and
WITCH HUNT is part 1, but what if Peart talking about? Someone please help.
It's been bothering me for awhile.

Ian Glazer
ian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

"I'm not giving in..."
From: fjs@goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: TNMS and alt.music.rush
Date: 18 Nov 1992 11:06:02 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <Bxw3Cv.H99@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>Gregg Jaeger writes
>> PERHAPS WE COULD KILL THIS PATHETIC THREAD AND GET ON WITH ANOTHER?
>
>I don't see how this thread is any worse than any other thread I've read in  
>this group or TNMS.  All the answers to people's questions are in the FAQ, so  
>there's no big suprises to be found either here or in TNMS.  Until a new album  
>comes out, the same old discussions on Ayn Rand, 2112, Hemispheres and a  
>handful of other topics are just going to circulate again.  I don't think  
>there's much to discuss about this rock band other than who enjoys what Rush  
>songs.
>
>I'm not coming down on you personally, Gregg Jaeger, and I think it's great  
>that so many people who read USENET enjoy Rush's music, but what substantive  
>discussions can be had about musical groups that don't involve song  
>preferences?  Does it really matter that someone likes HYF over MP?  I don't  
>think so.
>
>When new albums come out, this group and TNMS have potential for interesting  
>discussions, and they both ususally do, but it dies out in about a couple of  
>weeks and becomes a collection of threads with subjects like 'What Rush song do  
>you like best/worst?' (endless polls on this one), '<band member>'s personal  
>life', and one that didn't actually appear but is very close to the level of  
>the remaining threads: 'If Led Zeppelin, Rush and Mike Ditka were in a battle  
>for the title of the Universe, who would win?'
>

Mike Ditka would win, of course!!!!  A man of his size could easily take down any
of these rock and rollers!!  (Although Alex would be a tough match if he was up
to his pre-RTB weight!!!)


Frank Sereno
Kansas State University


P.S. 'Da Bears..........................
From: esuqs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr W J Lynn)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barchetta
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:19:54 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Summary: It's a sports car
Keywords: Ferrari

A TRACTOR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Try a Ferrari!

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 10:13:07 MST
From: rosej@alaska.et.byu.edu (James Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: Rush Keyboardist?


Rush does use other keyboardists on occasion, Hugh Syme on Witch
Hunt for example.


				James
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: "david goulden" <david.goulden@canrem.com>
Subject: neil's raindance
Reply-To: "david goulden" <david.goulden@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:24:30 EST

Regarding my earlier post about 'Raindance Over the Rockies' by Neil
PeartI called U of T Press and they've never head of the book so either
I got the publisher's name wrong or it's a private printing, in which
case I guess the FAQ would be right.  I will TRY to track down the book
again and confirm the publisher and get the ISBN number.  This may take
a while.  I'll let you know what I find out.

David
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