HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk(Gary.C)
Subject: Unparked Drive?
Reply-To: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:33:37 GMT

Keywords:
 
Hi Everyone.

5 years ago I purchased an A2000 1.2 machine with a
20Mb Western Digital hard drive (Janus Handler) now
when I origionaly bought the machine I got the set
up software for it but no utility to park the drive.

Does anyone out there know if the drive parks on its
own when the machine is turned off. If the drive does
not park on its own does anyone know of program or
utility that will park the drive (jH0).

The machine has not been moved since I bought it 5
years ago, but now I am moving to a new house about
200 Miles away and would like to know how safe it is
to move the machine. And any precautions I should take
whilst transporting the machine.

Thanks 


     (*) 
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   AMIGA  ///  Gary Coulter
     __ \///   SERC Daresbury Laboratory
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: blocker@dominic.ssc.gov (Rich Hall)
Subject: Re: Four Thousand Raisins... unclothed!
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:32:07 GMT

> [various stories about semi-homonyms with the Amiga's name deleted]

Brush up on your Espanol. In many countries, everyone who has
a friend of the feminine gender has an amiga. The connotation
is not that of "girlfriend," but of "friend." With my South
Texas background, "Amiga" is a perfect 5-letter metaphor for
something that will do anything for you as long as you spend
some quality time with it. The hispanic flavor of the name is
closely tied to bright, flashy colors of hispanic fine arts.
Commodore has put a similar emphasis on color in its computers.
There are numerous other reasons why no other name could ever
capture the essence of Commodore's flagship as perfectly as
the word "amiga", but I will leave the task of elaboration to
others. Confusion with "Omega" or "Amigo" or "A-Mega" might
be annoying, but it does not detract from the ideal name.

Case in point: Anyone notice the recent bumper crop of 
products using non-English words ending in -a? "Quadra,
Performa, Ventura, etc."? It seems like such words lend a 
scientific, respectable quality to a product, as if researchers 
have just named a new Genus-Species, a revolutionary medicine,
or a ground-breaking mathematical formula. In fact, they are 
just now implementing variations on the Amiga's original theme.
The Amiga is more personal, user-friendly, and powerful than
any other competing system. Its name says so.

-- Rich Hall, Technologist
   Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
   Dallas, Texas

My views are my own, not those of my employers, the Universities
Research Association, the US Department of Energy, nor any other
government entity, contractor, or subcontractor.
From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: 68060...Coming Soon?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:36:43 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

jonathan@yoyodyne.WPI.EDU (Jonathan F. Zimmitti) writes:

> 	I've been hearing rumors that Motorola will be announcing the 
> 68060 on October 15.  Has anyone heard anything else?  Just thought I'd
> let everyone know.

What happened with 68050?
And what will happen at 68070 as there already is a CPU with that name?

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: -MB- for vice president! (was: Clinton/Gore, A4000 graphics)
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:39:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct15.203920.13958
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

>>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>      Slick Willie Clinton: JUST SAY NO!!!
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>So if Bill and Al win, MB gets annoyed?  This is advice from the same guy who's
>wisdom on Amigas is so well known.  I guess if I hadn't already decided on
>Clinton/Gore, that would cinch it for me.

>	"Vote Clinton/Gore: Haynie like 'em, MB doesn't"
>-- 
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
> "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
>              "I got a pocket full of kryptonite" -Spin Doctors

I say we vote -MB- for vice president.  He will be a good candidate.
Think about it: 1) he is better than -DQ- (at least he has a spell-checker).
                2) he is very good at saying things which he doesn't
                   know--a good quality for a vice president to have (ask
                   -DQ-).    
                   
Join me! 

   -MB- FOR VICE PRESIDENT OF USA.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) 

--Kelvin Leung
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re:  A-MaxII+ ?
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:21:54 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <ibhan.718999686@husc8> ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
>>>Depends what you mean by support.  They still support it, they just don't
>>>make it any more.  There's no real point to having QuickTime on a Classic,
>>>since a classic doesn't have any color.
>
>>I wasn't really considering QT, but I was wondering about all those people
>>who fattened Apple's pockets by buying the Mac Classic in the last 2 years.
>
>>That's a fairly short run for an established computer company.
>
>>I would hate to be someone who bought a Classic 6 months ago and now finds
>>that he has to throw it away and buy a Classic II.
>
>Where do you get the idea that he (or she) would have to throw away a
>Classic at all?  When you buy in the low end in any platform, you'll be
>left in the dust faster than if you hadn't.  That should be pretty
>obvious.  Besides, you could always upgrade to a Classic II...no need to
>throw anything away.

The Classic has had the shortest lifetime of any Apple system so far, except
for the Lisa.


--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: WOC Tape
From: <JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:28:29 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

For those of you that were interested in getting copies of Mike Smithwick's
WOC tape that was shown at FAUG's meeting, Mike has agreed to send The Amiga
Group (TAG) his tape on the condition that we help distribute copies of it
to other Amiga groups.  If your group is interested, send me e-mail.

Obviously we can only handle so many requests.  So, any group receiving a copy
of the tape must also help distribute it to other groups by posting a message
similar to this one and also must give Mike Smithwick credit for making the
original tape.

Jason Koszarsky,
TAG President.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Deep Thoughts II
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:40:50 GMT

In an article on Bill Gates in the October 13th edition of the Toronto Sun,
it mentions that "there is conjecture that Gates may one day stand for the
U.S. presidency." Yikes.
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Falcon is an Ape
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:40:20 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Verdict: The Falcon is an Ape - you know, imitate everyone. A bizarre
>cocktail (pun intended:) of a machine whose hardware is a combination of
>features inspired mainly by the Amiga and the NeXT, plus a few others. For
>instance:

That's not necessarily bad if you want to hack around. And if they sell
they hardware cheap enough...


>
> The colour palettes and resolutions are very much SVGA-like (8/15/16-bit
>colour from an 18-bit palette). The 32K/65K "TrueColor" modes remind one
>of some of the cards you can get to run Windows in.
> Overscanning, interlacing, genlocking - wonder where they got those
>from!! Around the time of the launch of the TT, Sam Tramiel was
>interviewed by a magazine, and he criticised the Amiga 3000 for its
>flicker. Now he builds a machine with interlace.
> Mucho NeXT emulation in things like their choice of DSP, the SCSI-2
>port, the black colour of the case. Even things like BLiTTER and MiNT are
>dead giveaways. Again, in the aforementioned interview, Sam was quoted as
>saying that he hoped that the TT would "clobber" the NeXT. Imitation is
>the sincerest form of plagiarism....
> That built-in LocalTalk networking port appeared very similar to
>AppleTalk ports you find on any Mac
>
>I don't mean to incubate :) another Falcon flame war here, so any Atari
>fans reading this please note that the above does not include anything
>other than raw facts. I will, however, say the following (mainly because
>it is too difficult to resist:):
>
>"Amiga - the computer for the creative mind"
>"Falcon - the computer for birdbrains"
>
>:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
>
>(note the smileys)
>

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 Flaws?
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:06:40 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Gregory_R._Block


 GR> >Compared to the Falcon at 1/3 the cost:
 GR> Assuming it's actually released at that price, it's STILL not
 GR> shipping.  And, yes, the 4000 is.

And assumin ghat the Falcon ships with the current specs as well (which may
not be certain, Atari LIKES vapourware... :)

 GR> >    - no SCSI
 GR> Both have IDE.  The 4000's IDE uses an interrupted PIO scheme, which
 GR> is about halfway between ordinary PIO and DMA, in terms of speed and
 GR> cost.  However, the 4000's IDE is damn fast.

But wastes with CPU power! Michael Sinz's Diskspeed report showed a transfer
rate of about 1.5MB/sec with 70% (or so) CPU left. WHAAT! The A3000 can do
over 2 MB/sec with 89% CPU left! And that is on a machine with 1/4 of the
A4000/040s CPU power. They COULD have done better with a SCSI-II interface,
but that's life... :)

 GR> >    - no DSP
 GR> This will be settled.  However, the need for this is still up in the
 GR>  air.

With the power machine the A4000 is, why not include it? Even the Super
Nintendo has one!

 GR> >    - no MIDI
 GR> That's not any different, now, is it?

It's SOO easy to put in! And with only one serial port on the A4000 (what a
shame, really), you have no way of connecting a modem. :-(

 GR> >    - no network port
 GR> And neither is this.  The Amiga line has never had standard MIDI OR
 GR> standard networking integrated into the system

It COULD have had! That is the main problem of the Amiga, each model usually
have a feature that the other don't have.
F.ex, we have 10 (count em'!) expansion buses on the Amiga line of computers:
Trapdoor slot and expansion connector on A500, CPU and Zorro-II slots on
A2000, CPU & Zorro-III on A3000/A4000, Trapdoor & PCMCIA-II slots on A600, and
PCMCIA + expansion slot on CDTV. WHAT A MESS!
If the Falcon can offer networking for a really good price, why should CBM not
try to do the same? Is it BETTER to point out and say that "why have it? Most
won't use it anyway"? I think not. A LAN-port is good for lots of stuff!
Besides, having it on-board frees up one Zorro-III slot, and the A4000 doesn't
have too many of those.

 GR> The Amiga market doesn't exist to add that kind of expense needlessly.

(Again: ) Atari can apparantly add LAN to a really rock-bottom price.



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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A-MaxII+ ?
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:46:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy

In article <1992Oct14.060658.1848@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>,
8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Oct13.091715.3997@tamsun.tamu.edu> sfuller@tamsun.tamu.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:
> >In article <1992Oct13.064506.14933@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
> >>
> >>	What was that thing that Apple released, called the System 7
> >>Tune Up? Wasn't that the program to upgrade the original Quadras to the
> >>latest version?
> >
> >No. 
> >
> >The Quadras shipped with 7.0.1, the latest version (until next week).
> >The 68040 cache-compatability problem was created by people writing
> >self-modifing code, something that Apple had warned could cause problems in
> >future Macs.
> >
> >System 7 Tune-up has nothing to do with the Quadras specifically.
> 
> 	No but it's for what the name implies ie. SYS 7 bugfix. Some serious
> bugs showd up the most famous one was the dissapearing folder. A bug admitted
> even by apple although worded in a special way. Hardly a problem that has
>  ever shown up but roumored to do so, well here is a fix for it :-)
> 	A similar problem was fro the Amiga at pre 1.3 time when you'd
> put a drawer in a subdrawer !! A problem that does not happen now.
> 	George

"TuneUp" does not equate to "BugFix."  Version 1.0 of TuneUp was to enhance
performance and memory usage.  Now, you may consider non-optimal
performance and slightly excessive memory usage to be bugs, but most people
do not.  Version 1.1 of TuneUp (superseded by 1.1.1 to fix a bug in TuneUp
1.1) did fix the dissapearing folder problem.  However, this problem did
not exist in system 7.0; it existed in the Mac from the introduction of the
Mac Plus.  However, system 7 caused it to surface.

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|Now that I have a reader that can do .sigs, I can't think of a witty |
|one to put here, so I won't.  All normal disclaimers apply.          |
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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re:  A-MaxII+ ?
Distribution: world
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:07:27 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <ibhan.718900395@husc8> ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>>>  That's correct.  QuickTime requires Colour QuickDraw, which in turn
>>>requires at least a 68020 (and probably the 256K Mac II Roms) for its
>>>bitfield operations.  At one point, there was a plan to port QuickTime
>>>to 68000 machines by porting Colour QuickDraw, but now that Apple no
>>>longer makes 68000 machines, I don't think they'll bother.
>
>>So they've dropped support for the 68000 classic?
>
>Depends what you mean by support.  They still support it, they just don't
>make it any more.  There's no real point to having QuickTime on a Classic,
>since a classic doesn't have any color.

I wasn't really considering QT, but I was wondering about all those people
who fattened Apple's pockets by buying the Mac Classic in the last 2 years.

That's a fairly short run for an established computer company.

I would hate to be someone who bought a Classic 6 months ago and now finds
that he has to throw it away and buy a Classic II.

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
From: loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd)
Subject: Computability Mail Order
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:06:52 GMT

I called up Computability and asked the salesman about the ram expander
for the VXl accelerator. He gives me the usual drool about the price
and I stop him and ask "what type of chips does it take to make it
8 megs?" He tells me to hang on and after a couple of minutes comes
back on the phone and says that if you buy the 2 meg version you 
CANNOT upgrade it to 8 megs. The chips a soldered on the board. This
didn't sound right whereas in the new Amigaworld magazine they show
the board with sockets. He goes on to push me towards buying the 8
megger like a used car salewman. He said they were going to quit 
making the boards pretty soon and I better buy one quick, like tonight!
I then called AmigaMan and this salesman goes and gets the board and
tells me the ram chips a 1x4's and are socketed in. It will take 16
chips to make up the 8 megs and the boards are not 'in danger' of
being scarce any time soon. I explained what the other 'person' had
said and he replied "Who did you call Computability?" I hadn't given
the name before and just laughed when he said that!
So beware of Computability. I had similar problems with them over a
Supra Modem after last Christmas and thought I would give them another
try for my business but...

-- 
                       Amiga 2000     9megs Ram       52Meg Quantum HD  
loyd@seq.uncwil.edu    2400 Modem         Sony KV-1311CR Monitor 
                       VXL '030 w/ 25mhz 68882     Epson LQ-510 Printer 
                       Tanberg 60meg QIC Tape Drive
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Amiga Blitter 40% slower than Atari Blitter (???)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:03:21 GMT

In article <62q8RB3w165w@bugend.edvina.se> ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:
>u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
>
>> The STe was an "amiga killer" wasnt it?  The amiga is a games machine [as
>> the atari folk say].  Then why is the STe blitter only good for scrolling
>> desktop windows, rather than real game work?
>
>Every new machine Atari makes is instantly labeled as "Amiga killer", 
>not that any of them ever have lived up to the name...

   The biggest Amiga killer is Commodore.  With so little support for the
machine in the U.S., with few improvements in marketing here, and with 
Commodore's U.S. subsidiary losing more than $20 Million per year for the
parent company, it is safe to say that the Amiga is dead here.

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   And please trim your signature to five lines or less.  I am not impressed
with your ability to scan an image and run a bitmap-to-ascii utility on it.

---
| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: New Amigas(not 4000)?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:49:06 GMT

raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
>   I disagree.  I consider the A4000 a rush job although it has quality
>in it.  It's like -> "get out what we have done so far, and add the other
>things later."  But no doubt, it has quality.

I must agree with this.  Although I was quite impressed with the A4000
when its price was announced, it does not represent a big step in the
Amiga line.  The AGA chips do offer an amazing color standard, but much
better graphics are available for the Amiga.  The new chips should really
have provided better resolutions as well--1024x768, for example.  The IDE
harddrive in the A4000 is not the best drive, nor is the 040 the fastest.
I saw an add for an 040 accelerator that is faster than 33MHz.  No doubt
the chip is being pushed past its rating, but the A4000 is only 25MHz.
(I am not exactly complaining--a 25MHz 040 is no couch potato.)

Besides, the software support for AGA will be miniscule.

Now let me say what would have been a better "rush job".  Take the
A600 and give it an 030 and AGA.

-- Gerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453)
Subject: Re: A4000, A Marketable Machine?
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:14:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.182137.16000@newshost.unh.edu>, ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
[stuff deleted]

|> 
|> 	If Commodore wants to increase its market size, yes.  The A4000
|>    is a nice machine, but who's going to buy it?  I say people who already
|>    have and like Amiga's ( and of course have alot of $ ).  People who
|>    are not already a religious fanatic about Amigas, and are looking to

     Sorry, but I strongly disagree.  Who else might consider it?  People
who will like to do good and have an inexpensive multimedia/video system.
This is an area that the PC's due to lack of software, lack of a good
operating system and lack of "video friendly" graphics + bad sound
standard (soundblaster) can't compete.  And yes, add the price too.


|> 	Like there isn't any rampant pirating in Amiga-land.  Pathetic.
|> 
|> 							G.Greene
|> 
|> 
|> >Skip Sauls
|> >skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

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