From: rothberg@bimacs.BITNET (Danny Rothenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Autopsy - Kahane and Rosenbaum
Date: 4 Nov 92 14:27:39 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1992Nov3.214333.26887@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>In article <dfs.720826085@ro> dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) writes:
>
># In <1992Nov3.205925.24782@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
># makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>
># >    Now I happen to believe the Rabbi is not a racist.  However, a
># >discussion on that topic cannot be held unless those involved
># >understand the Rabbi's views in their proper context.  Few (actually
># >none in my opinion) that condemn the Rabbi and his views do this.
>
># In that case, it is not possible to hold an intelligent discussion on
># the issue with you, since you state that "none who condemn the Rabbi"
># understand his views,
>
>       You are sort of correct here.  There has yet to be an intelligent
>discussion because most of the discussion has involved false claims of
>what the Rabbi's views are and refutations of those claims.
>
># Great copout.  Wish I'd thought of it first.
>
>       What copout?  It is precisely what has ocurred!

I have been getting more and more bored by the above discussion.  As a
matter of fact I have read two of the late Rabbi Kahane's books ('They
Must Go' (The self-styled Kach manifesto) and 'Why be Jewish?').  To
read his political outlook for Israel is to see paranoia at its
fullest, and even the most extreme right in Israel (excluding, of
course, Kach and its successors) have condemned these views as counter
to those of Judaism, as have almost all Rabbis, including the two
Chief Rabbis (Askenazi and Sephardi) who are both to the right in
their political outlook.

To read the second book ('Why be Jewish?') one sees one of the main
problems facing diaspora Jewry today (Israel has an equivalent but
different problem), that of assimilation.  This book is also paranoid,
but less so.  The one major fault with it is not that he draws the
conclusion that one should move to Israel (with which I wholeheatedly
agree) but that also all the Arabs should be kicked out unless they
conformed with certain conditions which I cannot remember.

Of course, if all the Jews came to live here in Israel, then there
would not be this problem with the Arabs [in Israel].

>--
>"For all I care, you can send your money to the Hitler memorial fund, too, if
>that pleases you."
>
>From  arens@vaxa.isi.edu (Yigal Arens) in article <9323@venera.isi.edu>

Please also put your name in the .sig file-it makes it easier to
remember that it was not you who said the detestable thing you are quoting.
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