From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Subject: Re: Conservative?  Hahaha....
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:30:02 GMT
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Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1993Jan6.172317.9329@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
>In article <1idjb7INNhaf@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>>
>>One wonders if the conversion of the Civil Rights movement from one that
>>originally preached equal treatment for all races to one that is little
>>more than a mad scramble for preferential treatment and quotas had anything
>>to do with how easily Coloradans could be convinced that Gay Rights was
>>just a cover for more of the same excesses that were committed in the name
>>of Civil Rights. The Wall Street Journal had an op-ed piece by the editor
>>of some Colorado newspaper (the Rocky Mountain News, I think) that made that
>>point.
>>
>
>
>Quite a bit, no doubt. The agenda of the civil rights movement has changed
>from 'equality of opportunity' to 'equality of result', and this is a
>philosophy that is repugnant to most Americans.
>
>I don't think, however, that gays are particularly guilty of this. I haven't
>heard, for example, of many gay groups calling for AA for gays. The demand
>for AA has (so far) been mostly confined to the race & gender 'rights'
>activists.

This raises an interesting question: what's next for the civil right movement?  It
began as an effort to guarantee equal right to a class of people who had been denied
equal right for 400 years.  In this effort it attracted the support of a vast
majority of the people of this country.  The vast majority of the people of this
country still support this effort.  Eventually, with success, it mutated into a
demand for special rights and special priveleges, until the major civil rights
organizations have become nothing more than special interest groups demanding a
piece of the pie.  The feminist movement seems to have traced out the same path;
beginning as a demand for equal rights which was supported by a majority of the
people; mutating into a demand for special rights and becoming nothing more than a
special interest group.  Are the gay right organizations going to follow the same
path?  At this stage they are demanding equal rights and this is supported by most
people. What comes next?  And what comes next for the civil rights groups?  The next
step could be for the civil rights leaders to demand the abolition of affirmative
action and racial quotas, claiming that society has changed, the status of
minorities has changed, whatever discrimination that is not caused by these policies
is not prevalent enought to be a real problems, and so these policies are no longer
doing more good than harm.  Will it happen?  Will it happen for feminists?  Will it
happen for gay rights?

>
>
>>Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu
>
>
>Don Pajerek
>
>Standard disclaimers apply.



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             John W. Davis - Democratic candidate for President - 1924

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             Woodrow Wilson  

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