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From: c60b-2bt@web-2f.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Blackhawks, Pumas Exhibition
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:32:33 GMT
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Ticket Prices 
General Admission: $10, in advance/  $12, at gate
Reserved:  $11.50-$15, in advance/  $13-$16, at gate
(* Youths under 16, Students with ID, and Seniors over 60 are half price *)

MORE INFO ON TIX AND THE GAME CAN BE OBTAINED BY CALLING 1-800-677-HAWK

GO BLACKHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andy Busa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: US Soccer Development
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:59:39 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: GTE/SCSD

> 
> Any comments or observations welcome.

I like you have played the game since I was a toddler until now at 24.
I spend most of my time now trying to promote the game.  What you say about
the level of play is true amongst the kids.  I come from a town that always
dominated the state of MA in soccer but now there are some many good players
from every town that our kids can no longer do this.  Our weather isn't conducive
to turning out world class players but never the less every year the level of 
play gets higher and higher.

I think that this shows us more and more that our kids need a professional
league to look up to and aspire to.  There are so many good players in
college and they are only going to get better but we need a place for them
to play so that they don't have to leave the country to improve theie skills.
I am certain that the reason that our National Program is as strong as
it is now is because of the NASL.  This sounds funny because the NASL shut down
almost ten years ago but most of our national team players were between
the ages of ten and fifteen and they were able to watch a pro league in
the country.  It is certainly no coincidence that three of our best players,
John Harkes, Tab Ramos, and Tony Meola come from New Jersey.  Two of them
were the ball boys for the Cosmos.

I am very happy the way Alan Rothenburg has handle to USSF except for one
point.  I don't think that he is spending enough time on developing a plan
to have a league in place in 1995.  We need to capitilize on the World
Cup as much as possible.  The leaders of this new league should be able
to learn from the mistakes of the NASL.  I think there will be  a good
amount of fans that will be ready to go watch this new league but it must
be run as a professional league not like the APSL. I feel that leagues
like the ASPL and the SISL would make for excellent second division teams.
There is
From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Serie A and B Results/Standings (Apr.5 , 1992 Games)
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:42:19 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada

In article <12004.29e18033@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> tine@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>> Sorry for the delay, it seems that something is not working here at
>> McGill...Hopefully, this will work...
>>
>> [tons o' stuff deleted]...
>
>I found this post on soc.culture.italian and not on rec.sport.soccer.
>Maybe, this is due to server problems mentioned by Marco.
>Since someone is asking me these italian results, I thought to forward
>this post, dear Marco, to this list.
>
>Stefano

Well, thanks Stefano for reposting my original article on r.s.s. It seems
that on all my accounts here at McGill, I am having problems posting.
Perhaps someone on system staff is anti-Milan... :-)

I posted the article on both r.s.s and s.c.i, but something must
have gotten messed up along the way...

Hopefully things will clear up soon here...

Thanks again Stefano on behalf of all the "tifosi"...

Marco...
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From: dpwo_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Wolgast)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: The law about Goalkeeper control
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:23:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <smithx.703012524@sfu.ca> smithx@fraser.sfu.ca (David Smith) writes:

>I have already seen this rule cause quite a lot of confusion and I 
>expect it will continue to do so until referees learn how to interpret
>it. The purpose of the law is to prevent goalkeepers from knocking the
>ball down and then dribbling it along the ground with their feet.    
>and then picking the ball up again. However  
>I have seen referees call a free kick even when the goalkeeper picked 
>the ball up immediately after knocking it down. If the goalkeeper does
>this, even if he/she appears to have deliberately knocked the ball down
>rather than catching it, no advantage is gained. Therefore referees should
>only call a free kick when the goalkeeper starts to dribble and then picks
>the ball up. 

I don't buy all of what Dave has said.  I feel that I've got an interesting
perspective here, as both a referee and a goalkeeper, so this is pretty
important to me.

Tell me why the goalkeeper should EVER intentionally knock down a ball that
he intends to pick up immediately.  The only reason that I can think of is
that he wants some extra time...exactly why the IFB decision exists.

I am going to be fairly liberal as to what constitutes an intentional
parry and what constitutes an uncontrolled save, at least for awhile.  I'm
sure there will be warnings in cases where there is a question.

Here is an example where the goalkeeper gains time from such a situation.
A shot comes in and is intentionally parried to the ground.  The GK does
not move, but lets the ball rest at his feet.  He waits until he is
challenged by an opponent.  He then picks the ball up again and holds it
until he is ready to put it in play.  If he had been holding it the entire 
time, he might have been called for indulging in tactics which delay the game
(there is such a thing...Law XII 5(b), punishable by an IFK).  But the 
referee cannot make such a call when the ball is playable by the opponent,
thus the goalkeeper gets away with 'legally' delaying the game.

Besides, why can't he chest trap or foot trap like his teammates do?

>Perhaps FIFA would have been better to simply make a rule saying that once
>the goalkeeper has touched the ball with his/her hands he/she cannot dribble
>the ball and then pick it up?

What will this solve?  It's a habit for me to bounce the ball twice before
a kick downfield (though I really don't kick much anymore...).  Why should
I not be allowed to do this if it's not a time-wasting tactic, and nobody
gains anything.

>Dave Smith
>  

Dave
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From: D.J.Laws@newcastle.ac.uk (D.J.Laws)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Calling Man.Utd. fans..
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:08:58 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU


I know two Man. Utd. fans in the U.S. who don't have access to Usenet and would 
like to be kept in touch with their favourite team's progress .

I have been sending them news but now I'm doing regular Sunderland reports (and 
we have 10 games left - 4 more than most other teams) I simply haven't got time 
to email them the info they want .

Also as I'm not a United fan I don't know details which may be of interest to 
them ( team line ups , injury situations etc. ). 

Help would be appreciated. Please email me if you can come to their aid so 
close to the end of the season .

Last nights Manchester derby result was :

Man. Utd.    1  -  1   Man City
Giggs                   Curle (penalty)

(City were down to ten men when Pointon was sent off for fouling Giggs)


Regards
Dave

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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andy Busa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Spanish Soccer News 4/13
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:52:59 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: GTE/SCSD

In article <13APR199203031607@romeo.caltech.edu>, franherr@romeo.caltech.edu (Herrero, Francisco) wrote:
> 

> R. Vallecano - Figueras             1 - 1
I was wondering if you could give me some infromation on how Tab Ramos
is playing for Figuras?  Thank you.
From: dgmccann@unix1.tcd.ie (Red and Black)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Bohs beat Pats, Bray beat Cork.
Keywords: Pats 1-3 Bohs
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:39:47 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

Last night in a sunny Harold's Cross Bohs beat Pats 3-1 in a league
match. Bohs led 1-0 at half time and were very lucky to be winning. Pats
had the best of the half and hit the post after a school children like
scramble in the box. Bohs scored on the stroke of half time with Joe
Lawless netting from 2 yards with no Pats defender in sight. He has
scored in every game against Pats this season, 6 goals in 5 games.
That's nearly half his entire total! Bohs went further in front three
minutes after the restart when a poor pass in the box by Fran Hitchcock
was deflected in for a most unlucky o.g. Bohs then began to dominate the
game but Mark Ennis scored on a counter attack with a beautiful goal.
Pats went in search of an equaliser but never looked like scoring. Then
Tilson made a burst into the penalty area and was brought down for a
penalty. Pat Fenlon put the ball away quite confidently for his first
goal against his old club. The game died off a bit after we scored ,Pats
gave up and the game ended. A good game for the 200 or so who bothered
to turn up. Bohs can still finish fourth if Dundalk lose to Galway on
Sunday and Bohs win by two or three in Bray. Unlikely but possible.

In Bray yesterday afternoon Bray Wanderers beat Cork City 2-1 to give
them a chance of staying up. Cork's chance of getting into Europe are
now very slim. It has been handed to Derry on a platter. Details of the
match are patchy but Cork scored first ,in the second half, then had
Declan Daly sent off and Bray scored two goals in three minutes. Bray
have increased their total number of goals from 13 to 15. What a
wonderful team they must be to watch. Hopefully we'll send them down on
Sunday.

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 1923/24,27/28,29/30,33/34,35/36 | "Bohs for the Cup 91/92 !"
 74/75,77/78                     |   
 F.A.I.Cup Winners:              |
 1927/28,34/35,69/70,75/76       |
 League Cup:                     |  David McCann -dgmccann@unix1.tcd.ie
 1974/75,78/79 R-Up:1991/92.     |
 Leinster Senior Cup: 29 times   |
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From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Turkey - Denmark  2-1 (1-0)
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:11:33 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Some additional comments:

- On the second Turkish goal, goal-keeper Mogens Krogh missed a high
  ball in the box, and so must be held responsible for *both* of the
  Turkish goals. It seems, though, that Johnny M/olby saved the ball
  on the line and that their never actually *was* a goal. But then,
  it's what the referee says that matters.

- Johnny M/olby actually played quite good, and seems to be on his way
  to make himself a solid and dependable international for Denmark.

- Brian Laudrup returned to the Danish team after his long dispute
  with coach Richard M/oller Nielsen, and did reasonably, while not
  giving the punch many had hoped.

/Lars
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From: collins@nvpna1.prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Players of the Year in England ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:51:24 GMT
Organization: Philips Research Labs (Nat Lab), Eindhoven, The Netherlands.

Who won the PFA Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year awards ?.

Donie Collins     | Philips Research Laboratories (Natuurkundig Laboratorium). 
                  | Eindhoven. The Netherlands.
 /    /     /     | Dept : CAD Support. Building : WAY. Tel : +31-40-744091. 
Donal O Coileain  | e-mail : collins@prl.philips.nl  SERI : collins:nlwaya01
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 16:38:32 EDT
From: <RBNRGH@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Pitch Widths
 <1992Apr9.175933.12622@cs.ubc.ca>

How do these pitch widths compare with the narrow pitch width of the
NY Jets stadium modified for world cup soccer? I am concerned that it is even m
ore narrow. Am I correct??
From: mjf@cns.umist.ac.uk (Martin Ford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: West Ham vs. Soto'n RESULT???????????????
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:53:46 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

geraghj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Geraghty) writes:
>C'mon lads, Surely somebody can take the time out and  
>just post the result of the match and maybe a few  
>details to go along with it.


All right, all right.

Well here's the result:

Sorry to dissappoint all you hammers out there.

West Ham 0 Southampton 1
           Adams 88 mins

Sorry I haven't got any further details except to say the crowd was
around the 18000 mark and according to the press it was an uninspiring
display. 
This result all but eliminates the hammers chance of staying in the
First (oops sorry Premier) League next season. :-(

The hammers visit Maine Road this coming Saturday, and are sure of a
very warm reception due to the team including a couple of
ex-favourites of the Maine Road faithful, Clive Allen and Ian Bishop.
It'll be nice to see them play well.

Cheers

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From: darragh@retix.com (Darragh Stokes)
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Originator: darragh@kirk.retix.com
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:37:29 GMT

In article <MARTINS.92Apr6131533@hplhasm.hpl.hp.com> martins@hpl.hp.com (Henrique Martins) writes:
>In article <HANS.92Mar31150325@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:
>
>>  ...and now over to something completely different:
>
>>  The other day I was trying to find out if there were any interesting
>>  works of fiction (films, plays, novels etc.) where football plays an
>>  essential part. Oodly enough, off the top of my head I could think of
>>  very few actual examples.
>
>  Football is not the main subject of the film, I think, but you can try
>finding a copy of "The goalie's anxiety at the penalty kick", directed by
>Wim Wender.  It is on the video store I rent from, but I have still to get
>it.
>
>  Henrique

What about the low-budget BUT EXCELLENT Scottish film, Gregory's Girl.  Fitba,  isn't the main topic but is a nice part of it.  ( Claire Grogan ( who sang that
all time classic ;-)  'Happy Birthday' )  made her acting 'breakthrough' in this film.

Well worth a watch,  but I haven't seen it on video over here in the U.S.

Darragh.
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From: cathal@spock.retix.com (Cathal Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Football at the movies et
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:24:56 GMT

 
>> Not a film, but I also remember a TV programme starring Denis Waterman
>> (The Sweeney and Minder) about the first English team to play in
>> Italy. They were a small team from a Newcastle mining village I
>> believe. The lads go to Italy have a great time and to everyones
>> surprise win. There tactics amounted to lots of hard tackles and some
>> dirty stuff. I believe it was based on a true story. The title you
>> expect me to remember titles, sorry no I forgot. Anyway this one was
>> well worth watching.
> 
>Wasn't it something like the "1st World Cup". This one was, apparently,
>based on reality. This team did exist and did win the 'world cup' or
>something like that.
>Actaully for a sports movie its pretty good.

The team was (is) called West Auckland. I believe the competition happened
1909 or therabouts. A newspaper in Italy tried to invite the top teams
from around Europe to play in a tournament. None of the better clubs
in England were interested, and West Auckland ended up getting the
invite. They went on to win the tournament and retained their title
the following year. They kept the trophy, which the team still display
today. 

Cathal.
From: nieswand@elpp1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Switzerland, results (6)
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:51:24 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne


Subject: Switzerland round 6 of the championship and relegation


Championship round 6 (Apr 8)

Lausanne Sports                  1-1 Grashoppers Club
 45.Herr 1-0 71.Elber 1-1
  I was in the stadium: Grashoppers did not more than necessary. The match was
  very bad : many individuel errors in the Lausanne team, no ideas, chaotic.
  The best in the Lausanne team was still Cina. In this form Lausanne has no
  chance to win the championship and has to struggle for the European Cup
  qualification.

FC Zuerich                       1-3 Xamax Neuchatel
 16.Bonvin 0-1 39.Bonvin 0-2 45.Sotomayor 1-2 82.Cravero 1-3
  Uli Stielike can hope again for the European cup. Ramzy was the best player
  of Xamax.

St.Gallen                        0-2 Servette
 48.Dobrowolski 0-1 81.Dobrowolski (penalty) 0-2

Young Boys                       4-1 FC Sion
? (penalty) 1-0 ??? 78.Kunz 3-1 90.Kunz 4-1
  Baumann and Barbas were sent off


Table :
 1.Grasshopper Club               6  3  2  1   9-6   23 (15)
 2.Lausanne Sports                6  1  3  2   6-7   20 (15)
 3.FC Sion                        6  2  2  2  11-13  20 (14)
 4.Servette FC                    6  2  2  2  10-9   20 (14)
 5.Neuchatel Xamax                6  2  3  1   9-6   19 (12)
 6.BSC Young Boys                 6  3  1  2  10-7   18 (11)
 7.FC Sankt Gallen                6  2  0  4  10-14  15 (11)
 8.FC Zuerich                     6  1  3  2   9-12  15 (10)




Relegation NLA/NLB :

Group A
Yverdon                   2-2 Lugano
Aarau                     2-0 Bellinzona
Baden                     0-0 Malley
Locarno                   3-0 Basel

Table
1.Lugano             5  3  2  0  8-4   8
2.Yverdon            6  2  4  0 10-6   8
----------------------------------------
3.Aarau              5  2  3  0  4-1   7
4.Malley             6  2  2  2 11-7   6
5.Baden              6  1  4  1  6-6   6
7.Locarno            6  2  1  3  7-8   5
6.Basel              6  0  4  2  7-11  4
8.Bellinzona         6  1  0  5  5-15  2


Group B

Chiasso                 1-1 Luzern
Chur                    2-1 Grenchen
La-Chaux-de-Fonds       1-3 Wettingen
Schaffhausen            0-1 Bulle

1.Chiasso            6  3  3  0  14-8   9
2.Luzern             6  3  3  0   9-6   9
-----------------------------------------
3.Schaffhausen       6  4  1  1  13-5   9
4.Bulle              6  3  2  1  14-10  8
5.Wettingen          6  2  0  4  10-13  4
6.Chur               6  2  2  3   7-13  4
7.Grenchen           6  0  4  2   7-12  4
8.La Chaux-de-Fonds  6  0  1  5   9-16  1


Relegation NLB

Group B
Glarus                    1-1 Bruettisellen

Table :
1.Winterthur        4  2  1  1  9-6 11 (6)
2.Etoile Carouge    4  2  2  0 10-6  9 (3)
3.Urania            4  1  2  1  8-6  9 (5)
4.Delemont          4  3  0  1  9-4  7 (1)
--------------------------------------------
5.Bruettilsellen    4  0  1  3  3-10 5 (4)
--------------------------------------------
6.Glarus            4  0  2  2  4-11 4 (2)  


Christoph Nieswand
email: nieswand@elpp1.epfl.ch
From: barron@cactus.org (Robert Barron)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: England in European Championships
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:35:36 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx

Some friends and I are going to Sweden for the European Championships
this summer.  We're wondering if there are going to be any problems
with the League strike going on.  Is there any chance England won't
play?  (Unlikely not to play I think but we must be sure!).

Can somone please Email to me the schedule for England games as well as
the games after the first round?  Much appreciated!

Robert
barron@cactus.org

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From: frederik@leland.Stanford.EDU (Frederik MAES)
Subject: Re: Correct Title = VICTORY
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305 USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 21:28:41 GMT

>In article <5360@hsi86.hsi.com>, archer@hsi86.hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:
>> OK, who's going to list all the football stars featured in the film?
>> 
>> Everyone here remembers Pele and Bobby Moore, of course.
>> 
>> Remember Ossie Ardiles (Tottenham Hotspur), John Wark (Ipswich Town)?
>> I can't remember 'em all.  Who was the goalie Stallone replaced?  Wasn't
>> he an Irish international?  Anyway, I'll leave it to you all to fill
>> in the blanks! :-)

Don't forget Paul Van Himst (Anderlecht), who since last year is the coach of the Belgian national team, as the successor of Guy Thys.

Frederik

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From: u9caer@ohm.york.ac.uk (Carlo A E Rizzo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: League Cup
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:45:07 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <9204122133.AA24635@fraser.sfu.ca> jjook@sfu.ca (Jessica Jook) writes:


>  Can someone send me the result of the League Cup final as soon as
>the game is over?   I can't wait to know the score!
>--Raymond--    ThankYou

>-- 
Manchester United won 1-0. Bryan Mc Lair was the scorer with a shot
in the 14th minute.
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