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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: Adrian Adonis
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:13:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.023550.3788@cs.mun.ca> rodney@riemann.math.mun.ca (Rod Hutchings) writes:
>
>Adrian Adonis was killed when the van he was riding in (or was he actually
>driving) went off an icy road and over an embankment just outside of
>Lewisporte, Newfoundland.  Also killed was "Wildman" Dave McKigney (sp)
>and Pat Kelly, one of the infamous Kelly Twins.  I had a newspaper article
>which I posted to the net quite some time ago.  I can dig it out again and 
>repost it, for anyone concerned.

Congrats to Rod for posting the most accurate (as a matter of fact, about the 
only really accurate) report on Adonis' accident.  Shows how much good
our invisible FAQ is doing now...
-- 
Dominic Macika

"We've got to hold on to what we've got.  Doesn't make a difference
if we make it or not.  We've got each other and that's a lot for 
love."
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From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: RR/WM9 THE Prediction.
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:41:57 GMT

OK, according to the Royal Rumble Report (TM) on Superstars, te
winner of the RR will face HART for the TITLE at WM9!!! This makes
things REAL interesting.

1) According to previous reports, Yokozuna is supposed to wrestle
Hart for the title at WM9. He would be a "favorite" to win the
Rumble, being 505 lbs and all. But, Hart vs Yoko just wouldn't
be a big sell.

2) Backlund wins the Rumble. This has been mentioned before. Backlund
winning RR would give him credibility with the Marks, just like last
year when Slick Ric stayed in for over an hour. But, once again, Hart
vs Backlund just won't sell. Yet.

3) Ric wins RR, setting up the big rematch. This would sell. The Rumble
would be held before Hart takes on Ramon so the marks will go home
happy. I think the odds sway in favor of this matchup, and I'd LOVE
to see it.

4) This is my favorite. LUGER. I don't remember the exact date that 
his WCW contract says he can wrestle, but say he's brought in as a l
ast second replacement for some loser, after making some comments in
the next few weeks. He goes in early and pulls a Flair, showing the WWF
that he's a force to be reckoned with. 

At WM9, Hart will drop the strap to Ric, but as usual, it won't be
the last match. Hogan will return to face, oh, let's say Yoko in
the last match for a triumphant return and for all the kiddies to go
back to playing the slots happy. "Mom, quick, gimme another 20!"

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits - 12/17
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:09:37 GMT

scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM (David Scheid) writes:

>> - WCW has Starrcade '92 on 12/28/92 from Atlanta's Omni.  Matches are:
>>     - Masa Chono vs. Keiji Muto for the NWA Title
>PWI wrote in a recent article that they would not carry a status of the
>NWA title. They did not believe it was fair (to Flair) to chart the
>lineage from NWA-WCW- to NWA ____NWA just because a few promoters decided
>to revitalize the title. They hold NWA - WCW=NWA as a single lineage and
>the current NWA as something new. Interesting to see what happens in the
>near future.

PWI?  Talking about the isolated magazine?  On any Bill Apter mags, anything
outside of the US is "lower."  Look at the top 500 wrestlers of the world.
That's nothing but b.s..  How come all of the wrestlers ranked above 20 have
to be either American or Canadian?

Seriously, I also think Chono's NWA title is nothing unless Flair does a clean
job for him.  But in this case, I think Apter would say something different
if American wrestler was the NWA champ because of the way his mags have been.


>>     - Sting vs. Big Van Vader in the finals of the King of Cable tourney
>Who cares about King of Cable.

I do care about the King of Cable!!!.....aren't you talking about
Jane Fonda's husband?

>>     - Rick Steamboat & Shane Douglas
>>        vs. Barry Windham & Brian Pillman for the WCW & NWA Tag Titles
>I like Rick. Great wrestler. But Shane? Time for the outlaws to win.

Oh come on, better than watching Erik What? with a strap.

>Now, I could never see Flair vs. Hogan as exciting. But, Flair vs. Hennig!
>This is my dream match! Noone takes a better bump than Hennig. Shawn Michaels 
>is 2nd best, but still not Perfect. One WM I would pay for.

If this is the case, this will be the FIRST WM that I pay for.


-- 
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University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: dweller@husc8.harvard.edu (David Weller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Updated List of WWF Champs
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:49:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec16.174925.18578
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Re:  The updated list of champs

The official story line on last years Survivor Series/TTIT fiasco is that
Hogan recovered the title from the Undertaker and reigned as champ for the
fourth time for about a week before being stripped of it.  Hogan's reign 
was "legit", unlike DiBiase's in 1988, and should be included on this list.

-- Chris
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:48:58 -0500 
From: John Thomas <jt29+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Separated at Birth?

Ever notice the similarity between Barry Windham's nose (especially
when he wears those sunglasses) and the character "Bardolph" from
Kenneth Branagh's version of Henry V?  Both have a large, swollen
nose "which is like a coal of fire, sometimes blue and sometimes red".
For that matter, the same can be said for Barry's papa, Blackjack
Mulligan.  Must be some sort of genetic disorder.....

John Thomas
Cactus Jack's Shrink
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Ladies' Tag Team Titles
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 22:07:24 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

joepet@chiasmus.engin.umich.edu (Joseph L Petrow) writes:

> 
> Perhaps Tanabe-san or someone can help me out here...whatever became of
> the WWF Ladies Tag Team titles after the Jumping Bomb Angels (forgive my
> ignorance of their names, but all they were ever called was "Jumping Bomb
> Angel #1 and #2" defeated The Glamour Girls at the first Royal Rumble?
> Did they defend the belts in Japan?  Did they ever lose the belts, and
> are they still floating around out there somewhere?
 
According to Inside Wrestling (yes, I used to read it -- and now you know 
the source), The Jumping Bomb Angels (Itsuzi Yamasaki and Noriyo Tateno) 
dropped the women's tag straps to the Glamour Girls in Paris in June of 
1988.
 
Seeing as there were only two tag teams in the federation who could compete 
for the belts, I think it made sense that the straps were slowly phased out.
 
--Don Becker-san :)

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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Radio wrestling talk
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:47:14 GMT

jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:
>I've tried to find the Wrestling Insiders radio show in the Seattle area 
>and I haven't had any luck. 
 
I'm supposed to be on his show on January 16th to talk about wrestling
titles and the book I've put together with Royal Duncan.  That will be
the first time I'll hear his show -- and if it's any indication of the kind
of guests he has, maybe we're not missing much. :-)
 
>Heck, you could send me Tenay's address and I would be glad to write
>him and ask for the stations that carry his radio show.
 
I have his address, but I don't know his phone number.  I get the
impression that he's not really into correspondence, so you might not
ever hear anything back from him.
 
            Mike Tenay
            3321 Mariner Bay
            Las Vegas, NV   89117
 
I could always ask him for a station list in January if we don't end up
being bumped by a special on-air Warlord/Barbarian reunion or
something else more popular than title histories.
 
--Gary Will
 

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From: jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo)
Subject: Four straight hours
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:31:25 GMT

I found out this morning that I can watch four straight hours of wrestling on
free T.V..  It must be a record.  It's in the Detroit area.

Here's a list I compiled:

TIME    CHANNEL   AFFILIATE   SHOW

9A.M.     4           NBC     Worl Wide Wrestling
10A.M.    20      independ.   Wrestling Spotlight
11A.M.    2           CBS     Superstars of Wrestling
12P.M.    50          FOX     Wrestling Challenge

And thisd is on a Saurday too.

Anyone see the clown trip the Big Bossman as he left?  Vince said Bossman
sprianed his wrist.


-- 
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Oakland University		      Start Hacking
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From: hampton@ais.org (Kevin Podsiadlik)
Subject: Royal Rumble lineup (unofficial?)
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:23:02 GMT

According to M. L. Curly of the Detroit News, cable operators around
the country have already been notified of the scheduled card at
the Royal Rumble, Jan. 24 in Sacramento.  Curly apparently has a
friend or two in the cable business, because he then proceeded to list:

Bret Hart vs. Razor Ramon for the WWF title
Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jenetty for the I/C title
Big Boss Man vs. Bam Bam Bigelow
Max Moon vs. Terry Taylor
Steiner Brothers vs. Beverly Brothers

And, of course, the Royal Rumble, which we now know is for a title
shot at WMIX, involving:

Undertaker, El Matador, Tatanka, Papa Shango, Ric Flair, I.R.S.,
Ted DiBiase, Bob Backlund, Nailz, Brian Knobbs, Jerry Saggs, Crush,
Kamala, Samu, Fatu and 15 others.

It's very interesting that Mr. Perfect was not listed among the
participants as of yet.  Still he is likely to be there, along
with Owen Hart, Koko B. Ware, Earthquake, Typhoon, Yokozuna,
Virgil, Repo Man, Skinner, Rick Martel, and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Throw in Lawler, Colon, Gigante, and Tenryu, and that's a nice
even 30.

And, thanks to Herb, we now know Yokozuna will win the Rumble
barring unforseen events, while Bret Hart will retain his title
(hopefully via the Sharpshooter).  Bam Bam, bye-bye, Big Bossman.
Shawn Michaels figures to retain his title as well, and the
faces figure to win the other two matches.

Well, I guess that wraps it up until February.

-- 
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From: hsano@cs.ulowell.edu (Hitoshi Sano)
Subject: Re: Yokozuma
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:35:27 GMT

In article <hit.724386153@sol> hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
>What, did you all think I'd misspell a Japanese word?
>
>That's the way Mr. Fuji was pronouncing Kokina's ring name. Not just once,
>but throughout his interview during tonight's Prime Time.
>
>-- 
>Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu

You are correct, sir.
Also notice that Kokina, himself, says that too.  Funny how the announcers
and broadcasters sometimes call him 'Yoko' a woman's name.  Someone might take
offense, however, since he is not nearly as ugly or as large as everyone's
favorite Yoko-  Yoko Ono.

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"If a man asks for a 3 minute egg, give it to him in 2 minutes.  If he asks
for a 2 minute egg, give it to him in 1 minute.  If he asks for a 1 minute
egg, give him a chicken and tell him to figure it out for himself."
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Sasaki and Hawk
Date: 19 Dec 92 01:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec18.194149.8341@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes...
>Accourding to one of the sheets (either Torch or Observer) they are no longer 
>wrestling as the New Road Warriors. Hawk has now spoken with Animal and decided
>it wasn't fair to use the Road Warriors name etc.
> 
>                                                 David Kempster

     I read this myself in the Observer.  Flame away, but I really hated
the idea of Hawk teaming with Sasaki as the New Warriors.  Here's Hawk,
looking like he's ready to kill your family and eat their hearts, and here's
Sasaki, looking like he's delivering papers down the street.  The entire
idea of the Road Warriors is sorta about the way they came off as intimidating
monsters, and I don't see Sasaki being a a part of that at all.  To his
credit, he does outwrestle Animal by a wide, wide margin though.  But to
call them "New Warriors" is a low move (I guess New Japan was just trying to
get us back for Yokozuna :)).

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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Lawler?
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

BB>   Have the sheets or anything, (or anyone) have any idea why this
  >   change of face from Lawler? I seem to recall that Lawler always
  >   let it be known that he would NEVER work for McMahon.

The sheets have reported that LAwler will announce and work big shows.

I think that his actions here just go to show how much this business is
built on lies on an deciept.

  >   some entertainment from seeing his wars. In fact, his matches against
  >   Terry Funk were some of the finest brawls I've ever seen; which ---

Agreed.  Have you ever seen the Empty Arena match they had?  I watched
it again the other day.  Really good stuff.

  >   to further my drifting --- brings the question; where the hell is
  >   Terry Funk? WCW could desperately use him. (But then again, I wanted

He has been working indies.  I would love to see him take Watts' place.
He is very creative and understands the business both here and Japan.
He would be the man to actually change WCW.  I have said that for years.
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From: jnash@alfred.carleton.ca (John Nash)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: keep phil
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:09:56 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Dec16.172753.21434@scott.skidmore.edu> cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore) writes:
>
>At first, I voted to kick the s.o.b off, but then I started thinking
>about it.  Despite what others might say, it would be censorship to
>boot him off simply because no one likes what he says.  I say, let him
>post whatever the hell he wants, and then IGNORE him.  Evryone
>complains about the flame wars he starts, but it seemsto me that some
>of you are more than willing to engage in one with him.  Let him post
>his crap, nd just move on to the next article.  If no one responds to
>it, he's going to get bored.  The question then becomes, do enough of
>youhave the discipline to ignore him.

Well... I had similar thoughts.  This is what I posted to the bloke who
is collecting the votes:

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To: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca
Subject: Re: Phil Stromer: Friend or Foe?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Cc: 
Bcc: 

In article <1992Dec14.110031.9551@ac.dal.ca> you write:
>
>Question: Should Phil Stromer be allowed to post in this newsgroup?

NO, unless he is prepared to promise in writing to his sysadmin that he
will not initiate or continue off-topic subjects, and use no words
portraying any sex act or mention genitalia.  This includes
scientfic/medical or colloquial terms.  Also, he must agree not to slander
any person (wrestler or poster). 

Fair enough?  This will allow him to participate (i.e. free speech) but
not allow "hate" mail.  If he refuses, then a straight NO is my vote.

=========================================================================

This way, we can have a fellow who behaves, or hangs himself, and we don't
get guilty consciences about limiting free speech. 

** Actually, if Phil were to say his things in Canada, he could
probably be investigated for propagating hate literature. **

John.
From: bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brandon Scott Coley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Random Thoughts
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:50:19 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

OK, Lets get a few things staight from the start:
-Yokozuna (correct spelling) is NOT going to challenge Bret Hart at Mania.  He
 may wrestle Bret Hart (I stress MAY), but he will NOT wrestle for the strap.
-Too Cold Scorpio is not that good.  Sure he looks pretty good, and the extra
 flips are nice, but he is all show.  All the extra bits and flips and jumps
 do not make his manuevers any more effective!  Its just like the Franken-
 steiner:  Sure, it looks nice, but the Rockers used to do it every day.

Now that I have that out of my system, oon to bigger and better things...
-Does anyone else think that all this prediction over the Mania Main Event
 and Rumble winner is kind of useless?  McMahon probably won't know whats
 going to happen for a while yet.  Also, I get the strange feeling, that even
 though it is only mockingly reported here, that Flair will be both Champ and
 #1 contender.  That way they can announce a new contender and therefore
 choose anyone they want without having them win the Rumble.  This would also,
 as a side-effect, cheese-out all the built up expaectations, which happens to
 be McMahon's for-tay (I don't knoe how to spell it so I'll do so phonetically)
-Can you imagine the kind of push Tatata-puke-ah would get if he could actually
 wrestle?  
-It has been said many times that Rude will probably win the WCW World Title
 at Starcade.  I tend to agree, but if I were Rude, I wouldn't want it.  Think
 about it.  By beating Simmons, he loses his US Title.  He then goes on to job
 for Sting, so Sting can be champ again.  That leaves Rude with Jack-shit.  He
 should just hold on to the US belt.  That way he'll be a champion forever.
-Can anyone see the Headshrinkers as a good team?  I cannot.  Sure, they are
 beating The Disasters, but that team is on its way out.  These guys were in
 the WWF for months, not even getting TV time until Money Inc. beat the 
 Disasters.  I have to think they will sink to the level of feuding with the
 Bushwhackers after their Disasters feud is over.
-Is there anyone else here that actually likes a wrestler from some reason
 other than "He's a heel."?

"The Living Shall Fall,
 The Dead Shall Rise,
 PAPA SHANGO!!!! will reign
 Over Tatanka's DEMISE!"

(and then The Undertaker will bury him in the white man's grave yard just
 to piss him off.  :) 

-Bolt-
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Halloween Havoc
Keywords: Was it bad?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:27:47 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:

>   Jim Ross said that the buy rate for HH was higher than any other WCW
> PPV since Havoc of 1990.  This would suggest that, at least to the executives
> who hire and fire men like Watts, Bill Watts is doing well.  So, all this
> talk about Watts "needing to hit at hoem run at the Clash/next PPV" seems
> a bit unfounded.  Or are all or you referring to the quality of wrestling.
> I agree, quality needs to improve, but if Watts has improved PPV sales,
> then head offices are not going to fire him.
> 
>   This is just an observation.  I know that if quality drops, PPV sales
> will in turn frop, but it doesn't seem like Watts is up against the ropes
> just yet.

Consider the source of that info, Joe. Now, rethink your observation. It's 
like PWI rating Ron Simmons ahead of Bret Hart in their rankings. 
 
Personally, I didn't buy Halloween Havoc (nothing held my interest -- not 
even Roberts vs. Sting), but I'm going to buy Starrcade. I think I see a 
trend -- when I don't buy a PPV, the buy-rate goes through the floor.
 
I hope the Nielsen people are reading... :)
 
--Don

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| Nothing above is to be taken as dogma.  | still be alive today?"          |
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

GRC>Does anybody know if Masa defends his NWA title other than on WCW cards?

Chono has defended the belt quite a few times in Japan.
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