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From: bossoj@aix.rpi.edu (Joseph Charles Bossolini)
Subject: Re: DISK DRIVES
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:58:28 GMT

As far as I know, all PC 1.44 meg drives are ST (ST,STe,TT,etc.) compatible.
I am currently using a 1.44 meg drive in 720 mode.  My floppy controller
can't handle the 1.44 mode.  All that needs to be done is a simple swap.

Joe
From: dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: GFA Basic 4.0
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:56:42 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham

In article <2b4556b3@p15.f202.n281.z2.fidonet>, Vincent_Partington@p15.f202.n281.z2.fidonet writes:
|> 
|>  LS> GFA Basic will now develope by Richter Distributor germany. It will
|>  LS> become some new features:
|>  LS> - adapt on new TOS Versions and new programming ideas
|> 
|> Will this also include structs or records? I had heard a rumour that it
|> would and that would be a first: a basic with structs..
|> 
|> Ta!
|>     Vincent

I certainly like the idea of structs in GFABASIC... I've long hoped they'd
include something like it.
Just out of interest, what do you lot out there use for writing programs? The
Partnership I'm in is about to release a Shareware collection of little boot
programs and utilities and I'd say it's about 60% GFA, 30% 68000 and 10% C. But
that's 'cause we like GFA3.5 and I (at least) have never really got the patience
to use Lattice 3.

Is Lattice 5.5 worth it? #150 (UK) is an awfully big amount of money for an Atari
user! (Esp. one saving up for a Falcon :) ).

David.
From: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: GCC problems too ...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 02:41:44 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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Keywords: GCC, documentation.zoo
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berrah@montblanc.cica.fr (K.Berrah) writes:

>It seems that the terminator.cc.umich.edu don't have anymore
>atari programs. Can anyone give me another atari server address?

use: atari.archive.umich.edu

>Thanks.

No worries!

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From: hohmuth@freia.sax.de (Michael Hohmuth)
Subject: Re: compiled mint library for sozobon & turbo C ?
Keywords: MiNT, Turbo, Pure
Reply-To: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:14:08 GMT

In article <C0HBwu.DpF@ufrima.imag.fr>, grellier@ufrima.imag.fr (GRELLIER thierry) writes:

> 	Where can I find it ? Because as I haven't got a hard disk, it's
> 	quite fastidious for me to make it.

(I can only speak for the Turbo/Pure C stuff.)

The problem with distributing mntlib binaries for Turbo/Pure C is that these
binaries have the math library of the compiler linked in which is
copyright Borland/Pure Software. That means that the binaries are NOT free
while the source code is.

It should be faily easy to make and distribute a version of the binaries 
without the math stuff, and let the user link the math library into mntlib.
However, I haven't had yet the time to set up project files for this etc.
Also, you are the first one who demands on this.

As there seems to be interest for a compiled version of mntlib for Turbo/Pure,
I'll provide one soon (at least for the next mntlib patchlevel).

Michael
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From: grellier@ufrima.imag.fr (GRELLIER thierry)
Subject: compiled mint library for sozobon & turbo C ?
Organization: University of Grenoble (France)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:31:41 GMT

	Where can I find it ? Because as I haven't got a hard disk, it's
	quite fastidious for me to make it.

	Thierry grellier
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From: Peter_Missel@k.maus.de (Peter Missel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: How to change text in free str
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:49:00 GMT
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a>Could I have an example of how, exactly to change the text in a free
a>string under MW's C?  I've been trying to use rsrc_gaddr but haven't

(char*)(((TEDINFO*)(tree[object].ob_spec))->te_ptext)

is the pointer to the first character of the string.
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From: mrz5149@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Freaky Deaky
Reply-To: mrz5149@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:19:44 GMT

Does anybody know what the "Freaky Deaky Construction Kit" is? I've seen
it on many GEM programs from Europe that do the most interesting things.
They also seem to have a more Mac-like interface (i.e. those round
They also seem to have a more Mac-like interface (i.e. those roundm

To name one off the top of my head Let 'em Fly, the AUTO program that
does neat things to your alert boxes/ dialog boxes is one.

If this is public domain/shareware does anybody know where I could get
a copy?

Thanks

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From: dsb@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Scott Bigham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: compiled mint library for sozobon & turbo C ?
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:41:23 GMT
Organization: n. Arrangement in an orderly or logical fashion.  See "miracle".

From the Holy Book of <726418938@bronto.cs.duke.edu>
  as spake by dsb@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Scott Bigham) :

>Just a bit more patience.  I've _finally_ finished the Sozobon port, and
>as soon as I can fight through the throngs and actually get to
>atari.archive, I'll upload it.

And thanks to lucky timing, I just did it.  Look for the file
mnthlb25.zoo in ~atari/New, soon (presumably) to be moved to
~atari/Mint.

This package includes updated versions of make and ar, included from the
1.40i beta release with Ian's blessing.  These new versions have full
ARGV support, which means they are more friendly with shells and accept
up to 255 arguments per command line.  If you use Sozobon C at all, I
recommend grabbing the package, if only for these two files.

						-sbigham
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From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: AfterDark challenge
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:35:16 GMT

In article 3402@news.unige.ch, mike@medsun.unige.ch (michel morris) writes:
>
>But I use NVDI, not Warp 9 - can I use _just_ the Extend-O-Save (sounds like a 
>washing powder additive), without Warp 9 ?

Nope.  Extend-O-Save is a Warp 9 extension, only.

AfterDark for the ST sounds like a cool project, though.

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From: Jan_Willekens@p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Process memory usage in MiNT
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 12:30:36 +0100
Reply-To: p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet!Jan_Willekens@nextjk.wlink.nl
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Hi!

For MultiTos, I want to make a graphical representation of the amount of
memory and the kind of memory (global, private, etc) a process uses, much
as the list you get when pressing CNTR-ALT-F9 and F10 in MiNT.
Moreover I also would like to know where these chunks are located in
memory. What I need to know is which functions to use in order to get this
information. I could use the process' header flags and the information
contained in the PROC structure, but this still doesn't say anything about
what kind of memory a process may have Malloced during execution and where
is has Malloced it. Or is this only possible from within the kernel itself?

Anyone can help?

Greetings...                                                - Jan -
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From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: Re: A Bomb in the Post 
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 01:53:41 GMT

Email here choked on hpl.hp.com......

To: cal@otter.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Re: A Bomb in the Post 

Sounds similar to the 40 folder bug, but rebooting should "fix" things
momentarily if it IS the 40 folder bug.

Sounds like a failing PS or perhaps chip.... (I had a chip get zapped in my
MEGA that caused similar behaviour.  If the same chip had oxidation (can't
spell corosion...) on a pin and needed reseating, similar symptoms would
result!)

Don't despair.... sounds like a $20 problem to me!

(hpl?  california?)

seeya!
jc
From: tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: TT VME Interrupt help needed!
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:19:43 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems (UK) Ltd., Winchester, UK.


Hi Folks,

I wonder if any TT people out there can help me?

I am writing a device driver to run under OS-9 on the TT, to talk to an
Ethernet card called the Bionet VME from Biodata GmbH.  The example
driver from Biodata running under TOS just polls the chip, but under
OS-9 I need the Ethernet to generate an interrupt.  I haven't yet
succeeded in doing so. 

The Ethernet chip is a DP8390, and has an INT output.

Looking at the tracks on the Ethernet card, there is a connection to the
*IRQ5 line, so I guess it should be possible somehow.

I was concerned that I could not see any tracks to *IACK, *IACKIN and
*IACKOUT. Is the TT VME bus non-standard in some way?

The only information I have on the TT is a Field Service Manual with
circuit diagrams, but no programming information. The VME *IRQ5 line
appears to be called XIRQ5 and goes to the TTSCU pin /BIR5. The XIRQ5
line also gets driven by the SCC interrupt.

If the VME *IRQ5 is aserted, does the TT execute a standard IACK cycle
on the VME bus? Or does the TTSCU define some sort of automatic vector?

Any relevant advice would be much appreciated - particularly from anyone
familiar with the Bionet card!

Thanks in advance,

Tony.

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From: Jan_Willekens@p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Conner HD on TT
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:19:24 +0100
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A few days ago, I connected a Conner RZ23L hard disk (120Mb) as the
internal hard disk to a TT (TOS 3.05, probably rev. C), but that
combination doesn't work as it should.

At bootup, after I pressed the space bar, the hard disk LED remains on and
the system doesn't see and doesn't boot from the hard disk. Now, I have
connected another SCSI hard disk through an ICD host adapter to the DMA
port of the TT, and the system does see that one and boots from it. After
the TT has exited the driver software (ICD 6.0.4) the LED of the Conner
goes out. If I then run the driver from the desktop or relog the hard
disks, the Conner is seen and mounted by the system and I can use it
perfectly. I only can not boot from it, and that is just the thing I want
to! I have put the terminator resistors on the HD, so that's not the
problem. I also have tried various jumper settings, but they didn't help.

I have heard that various problems are known when using Conner HD on TT's,
so can anyone help me out? (I heard something about removing some resistors
from the TT mainboard) Or does anyone have some documentation on this
Conner HD concerning the meaning of the various jumper settings??

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From: jat@cch.coventry.ac.uk (STBW)
Subject: Falcon Monitors (?)
Organization: ASHTRAY(Against Short Hair That Really Annoys You)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:50:00 GMT


	HELP !!! 

	Any monitor tec boffins out there that can answer some questions for
me ? Concerning monitors and the Falcon.

	I plan to buy a Falcon later in the year, with 4Mb RAM, 88Mb HD (from
a third party surplier, cos it works out cheaper then the 64Mb package deal :-)
and a SVGA monitor.

	But at the moment I have enough for the monitor, so I'd like to buy it
now and connect it up to my STe until I manage to get the Falcon.

	What I need to know is what sort of monitor will I need to buy, so that
I can display all the Falcon modes upto the 768x480 'True colour' 
(Over-scanned) without interlace, and still be able to use it on my STe in
Low, Med and High reses ?

(I realise that I'll have to buy a multisync switch box for my STe.)

	What is the tec. defination for the above monitor, ie SVGA, XGA or
what ??? What would a PC magazine advert call this type of monitor ?

	What is the differance between SVGA, Multisync, Alphasync, Panasync
etc etc or are they the same sort of thing and just trying to confuse me :-)

	Any particular makes and models you can recomend would also be handy,
I'm looking at 14" less then 280 pounds types.

	Many, many thanks in advance,

	
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From: Peter_Missel@k.maus.de (Peter Missel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: What use is the AP_TERM me
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:45:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: K.A52094
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p>having a big firm behind me? Do I just write a letter to Atari Benelux (for
p>Holland, where I live) and ask them?

Right.
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Porting UNIX Code to the ST
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:36:21 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD
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[This maybe very much superflous, if the PURE-C lib has the binmode()
 call, which I believe to know it hasn't]

As an alternative in PURE-C it is not very hard to patch the library, I 
did it on the old TCSTDLIB this way:

Send a '\n' to stdout.

trace with the C-Debugger to the place, where approx. the following happends

library code:

	cmp.b  #$A,dx  ;; somewhat like this (this has been a few years)
        bne    .....
	move   #$C,dy
	bsr    ....

remember the hexcode of and above these statements.

With a disceditor hunt for that hexcode, and change the bne
to bra. (better do this on a copy of the library)

This should work out for the PURE-C libs as well.

Nat!
P.S. If i remember correctly this might introduce some small problems,
     when you use floating points, since there are apparently to printf
     routines. The linker objects if the 'overloading' routine is
     not from PCSTDLIB.LIB.


Disclaimer: This is from old memory.
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From: kuehn@math.uni-muenster.de (Ulrich Kuehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: VDI 'load fonts' question
Date: 11 Jan 1993 12:17:07 GMT
Organization: Westf. Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster, Germany
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In article 1ik905INN1au@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE, subiaagb@w350zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andre Pareis) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have a problem with the VDI routine 'load fonts'. Does the
>workstation handle have to be a physical or a virtual one?
>And, if it may be a virtual handle, do I need to load the fonts
>for every new virtual workstation or is one time enough?
>
>How many virtual workstations are possible? Fixed number or not?
>
First of all, you need a GDOS in your system, otherwise it is very 
dangerous to call vst_load_fonts, so use vq_gdos to check the presence.
The call has to be for every workstation (virutal or physical) for that
you want to use those fonts, but the fonts will be loaded only once to
save memory (at least I think so). 
The maximum number of virtual workstations is depneding of the VDI you
use, I know that NVDI V2.11 allows up to 128 virtual workstations, but
I dont know how many the original VDI allows.

Ulrich
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From: sjg@phlim.ph.kcl.ac.uk (Simon Gornall)
Subject: Re: help me with GNU c please.. i don't know what files to get.
Organization: Kings College London Image Processing Group
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:40:59 GMT
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The GNU C compiler is a little more flexible than most, you'll need to set environment
variables (almost demands a CLI approach) of GNUINC to point to the location of the include
files, and GNULIB to point to the library files, and GCCEXEC to point to the prefix used
for the gcc binaries that sets them apart from the standard unix ones. 

For example, in the MiNT distribution kit, the following are set...

	GCCEXEC U:/usr/bin/gcc-		/* the binaries are in /usr/bin and begin with 
					   gcc-(compiler filename) eg: gcc-cc1.ttp	*/
	GNUINC  U:/usr/include		/* the location of all the include files	*/
	GNULIB  U:/usr/lib		/* the location of all the libraries		*/
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From: kuehn@math.uni-muenster.de (Ulrich Kuehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: drop down menus in GEM
Date: 5 Jan 1993 10:22:35 GMT
Organization: Westf. Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster, Germany
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In article fidonet2b3c36c4@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au, michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith) writes:
>Original to: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
>In a message of <10 Dec 92 12:16:14>, hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
>(3:713/602) writes:
>
> >> When using drop down menus how do you get the chech marks to work?
> >> 
> h> menu_icheck should do the job. (objc_change should also, but this is not
> h> documented and will probably not work with MultiTOS).
>
>Hey? Are you saying objc_change() is totally 'undocumented'? or just that
>using it on menu items is?  I thought it was a really useful function... 8)

The problem here is that you have to do menu_bar before the menu is drawn
on the screen (at startup), and it is not documented whether the AES does
make a copy of the menu tree or not (in all existing versions there is no
such thing, at least on the ST), but a networking AES will probably do so,
so before you would then see the changed menu, you would have to do a 
menu_bar again, so use the documented way with menu_icheck.

Ulrich

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From: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Winnipg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: *** CAN YOU ANSWER THIS DISK DRIVE QUESTION? ***
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 16:20:16 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

      I used to have an CHINON F354 drive but it's toast so I got a
new CHINON 720k as a replacement, an FZ354. The problem :( is that it
doesn't recognize a new disk having been put in the drive(unless it's
write protected). 'ESC' won't work and the Forced Media Change program
also is a no-go.
   Question: Can this FZ354 be fixed with jumpers or is it time to
             call TEAC for a replacement?
If you need any further info, like how I have the jumpers set, say
so.
From: hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: How do you write a CPX
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:57:43 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <1993Jan8.163112@cs.bham.ac.uk> dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley) writes:
>1. The best way to find out about CPXs is to buy DocSupport II. Not that I've
>managed to write one... Anyone have CPX code for Lattice C?
>
> etc
>
>David.
The latest Lattice C 5.51 (perhaps > 5.51 by now) comes with the source
for an interesting little CPX for playing sampled bits of music.

Herb
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