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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: kheet culture! [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:12:15 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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To: sci-anon-poster 



SalAm ahAliyeh mohtarameh SCI va hoomeh,

Today amoo will be "dard-o del"ing with you about our very own SCI but first a 
short intro to the terminology that will be used frequently by me in this
posting. 
The word is "kheet" and the problem is the popularity of it's concept at SCI.
>From the first day that you become one of our ahAli you  subject yourself, 
and perhaps us, to some cultural influence. Amoo for one has benefited from such
interaction and has tried to contribute some to it. But hold the thought process
right 
here; go back and browse the articles written in one week, and try to see the
big picture. What do we see the most? I tell you what amoo sees: a "kheet"
culture! Allow me to 
explain why.
If you are among are male ahAli you have definitely experienced it in the past
during 
your high-school years, and if you're a female you at least have heard about it.
High-school years are full of challenges (mostly verbal if you're lucky or a
female). 
Depending on what part of town you come from the rate and intensity of such 
challenges may vary; you either "kheet" people or get "kheet"! 
Now back to our own beloved SCI the same concept is being applied by our most
talented contributors. What most of us have been doing lately has been spending 
our time and energy to "kheet" someone, most of the time a member of the
opposing ideology/sex/religion. And of course when someone tries to state a
different opinion we turn to "kheet" him/her by donating a label such as
"socially correct" or "politically correct", etc.  Let me confess that amoo is
also in this "kheet" process with you;
he has done some "kheet" postings but he is tired of this repetitious trend of
"kheet" which is disguised by such misnomers as "flame", "criticism", etc. Most
of what is presented to us as flame is nothing by a "kheet" attempt.
Fortunately "kheet" has another application in FArsi that could be used here to 
eliminate the problem, and that's "kheet keshidan" around something, and that's 
exactly what we should do about this habit. To do his share, and as a first
step,
amoo is going to JavAd AghA's to get several "soozan"s as well as a  couple 
"jovAl dooz"es for our ahAli so we can start poking ourselves with  "soozan"s 
and in case we liked it use the "jovAl dooz"es on others!


kheet nabAshid,

amoo

p.s. To promote the anonymous poster service [(c) & coutesy of ShAhrokh] amoo
will be      posting anonymously for a change!


 
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:43:06 GMT

sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>It is funny, how a bozo like javad calling people names.

Heh, something's definitely wrong with the above sentence (nevermind
it's missing an "is"). It's self-contradictory. But then again, a
glance at the origin of the article explains that.

>                     With highest regards,
>                          Babak   Sehari.

    --mack
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From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: An open secret exposed again
Date: 16 Dec 1992 02:11:43 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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The Ocean Moving All Night

Stay with us. Don't sink to the bottom
like a fish going to sleep.
Be with the ocean moving steadily all night,
not scattered like a rainstorm.

The spring we're looking for
is somewhere in this murkiness.
See the night-lights up there traveling together,
the candle awake in its gold dish.

Don't slide into the cracks of ground like spilled mercury.
When the full moon comes out, look around.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca (Navid Badie)
Subject: Re: Looking for a Farsi editor for PC
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:45:25 GMT

hatefi@dorm.rutgers.edu (SOMEBODY) writes:
: 
: I heared from Iran that Word Perfect v5.1 supports Farsi fonts and looks
: very nice, but costs around 600K Rials in Tehran.
: 

Farsi fonts have recently been added to WP5.1's Arabic language module. I
have seen the output of this program, and it is very nice indeed. It
costs around $150 and includes a hardware key (to put on your parallel port)
in order to function.

Note that the $150 cost is for the Arabic language module only, and does
not include the price of WP5.1 itself.

Cheers,
--Navid
nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Happy Christmas everyone.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:48:46 GMT

---
Here I would like to say happy christmas to everyone, and wish you
a happy holidays.  I'll be gone for couple of weeks.

                  With highest regards,
                       Babak   Sehari.


--
From: tabiei@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Resturan In Chicago
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:35:50 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Salam every body
I want to go to chicago next week.
Can any body give me an address of the best Iranian
resturan there. mamnon.
Ala Tabiei
tabiei@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: An Incompotent Army
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:04:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.110004.20619@netcom.com>, bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec17.215458.14043@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> 
|> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:
|> >
|> >The Iranian Imperial Military structure was essentially unable to
|> >organize and act on its own with the absence of the person of the
|> >Shah.
|> 
|> That's why it was called Imperial.  Shah was the pointer.  :-)
|> 


P A R K A Y!

:-)
-- 

Farhad

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: psc@sei.cmu.edu (Peter Capell)
Subject: I love this...
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:14:32 EST


15-Dec-92 18:18	saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)	The Washington Times: U.N.
decries the Khomeini regime 

>    While Iran's rulers promptly denounced the UN findings as
> based on ``a Western point of view,'' ...

Yes, it is very western notion that people shouldn't just be hung for
disagreeing with the government.  It's also probably very western to scream if
your fingers are cut off, or if you have a hot egg shoved up your ass--very
western.  You know us white western males, evil incarnate you know.  In fact
I personally take responsibility for every evil act performed by western
civilization for the past 1000 years.


		Oh gee whiz :-)

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From: foroughi@mot.com (Hooman Foroughi)
Subject: Re: kheet culture! [sci-anon-poster]
Organization: R&D Division of Motorola Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:28:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.205229.27339@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> afsar@lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz) writes:


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Haji, 

I agree with you. I think this is part of our upbringing however.  There is a certain
satisfaction that Iranian male ( I haven't seen this with females ) get when they 
put their friends down. I guess in their own minds they are funny or they feel that 
under the "I am only joking" umbrella they could do or say anything.  

There is also a different kind of "Khit Kashtan" that I have observed in SCI. Some members of SCI
seem to respond to a posting just to make the originator look bad. They are set in their
ways and usually drag an issue to "torkestan" ( ie. What is the deal with Babak's solution
to Iran's AIDS problem. The first time I read it I laughed, it was a joke. And then I 
saw all of these postings responding like his proposal was being implemented in Iran 
right now!! It is like trying to rationalize a joke when all you have to do is laugh at it! )

I don't know how we can cut down on "khit kashtan" in SCI except maybe ignoring such 
postings. However I have found that with your freinds at work it is best if you just 
plainly ask them to stop and let them know that you do not appreciate it. I know .... they 
will laugh at you and carry on. But the next time they will think twice about it. And if 
you don't give them any leads (!) soon you will be excluded from their list of to be "khit"ed.
It has worked for me at least. 
                                                                               

Hooman -
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From: J10B@UNB.CA (J10B)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Women's pos. & Naghmeh's post
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:22:55 GMT
Organization: The University of New Brunswick

I agree with you 100%. Iranain women have struggled and will. It was
somebody else's idea ( the writer of "Women's psition in Iran") that
Iranain women's previlages all have been granted and they've never
challenged for that. There was a controversy in his post and I wanted
to show it. I urge you to read that article if it's still in the post.
 Pessar Amoo
From: menhaj@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Relationships [sci-poster] thou shall not lie.
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:19:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.1992Dec11.181959.1
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center

In article <lhqln9INNkul@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, Pardis Mostofi <casipit@ee.utah.edu> writes:
> 
> 
> Thanks to Mr. Shahrokh Mortazavi, I can now post to SCI.  I have been
> reading SCI for the past 6 months with much interest, but wasn't able
> to participate in any of the discussions.
> 
> On the subject of American girlfriends, it seems to me like many
> Iranian men prefer to date American women, because the relationship
> with an American woman can get physical more quickly than with an
> Iranian woman.  What do others think?  Men, is this true?  Are you
> attracted to American women (or western in general) just to satisfy
> your sexual urge?  Or is it otherwise?
> 
> I also wish to discuss the flip side of this issue, American
> boyfriends.  I have dated quite a few American men.  They have been
> mostly very nice, but they do not satisfy my emotional needs like
> Iranian men do.  I personally prefer to date an Iranian.
> 
> Do others have similar experiences?
> 
> Smile,
> Pardis.
> 
>  
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Friends,
	Recently I have witnessed an outpouring of postings with fake and
counterfeit e-mail addresses.  Certainly such action would be justified 
if one used a "made-up" e-mail address consistently and/or if one used 
amusing user, node and server names ( ie. BaghAl@Sar.Kooche,etc) or if
the aim was to conceal identity for security purposes. However 
failling attempts such as the above posting, which tries to portray a 
female commending iranian men for their emotional understanding, by a male
iranian goes farther than the bounds of justification.  Such attempts are 
deceitful and fundementaly wrong.
	Just recently there was a juvenile duel ( more similar to a daring
game) between Mr. Mac and Mr. Sehari on who can play more tricks with their
posting, it's path, and the originators e-mail address. This is unworthy
of a posting on SCI.  If either of these two gentlemen deems it necessary 
to demonstrate  their command of UNIX ( or any  other O.S. ) to the public
or to their peers, I suggest they attend a Unix convention or just use the
email for such purpose (flexing your "muscles" in public is not a persian
virtue                  JahAn PahlevAn Takhti).
At the end  I hope that we can keep this medium free of deception and lies.


p.s. A note to Mr. Sehari: You can greatly enhance your knowledge of 
English vocabulary and diction by using a thesaurus or a dictionary
every time you post on SCI.

" with highest regards"
From: ATTARZADEH_FARINAZ@tandem.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: moghadameyeh emtehAneh rAnandegi.... [sci-poster]
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:10:26 GMT
Organization: SCI Friends & Family, Inc.
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salAm beh ahAli,

TGIF.  Chetorin?  Hope all is well for you.  Things are great on
this side of the world.  We've been getting some bAroon, bAroon,
and more bAroon! :)

The purpose of this moghadameh is to inform the ahAli that I
will be posting a few messages titled "emtehAneh rAnandegi #n",
which will include a few multiple-choice questions that I have
picked out from the "maj-moo-eyeh soAlAt va moghararAteh
A-een-nAmehyeh rAnandegi" which I brought back from Iran this
past summer.

Each question comes with three answers.  You pick the best answer,
or, add your own if you don't agree with the choices given.  Also,
you need to justify your answer (regardless of whether you added an
answer or picked a given one).  Hint:  think of Iran when you are
answering the questions.

I will post the correct answers after a few days of giving the
emtehAn.  Those posts will be titled "javAbeh emtehAneh #n".

So, I hope that you would all enjoy these series of emtehAns! :)

Nazi


Note:  Since my Farsi pronunciation is not that great, I apologize
       in advance if I mix up the ah, eh, and oh's!  Last time I
       did that, Shahrokh got blamed for it.  Remember Shahrokh?
       sharaf vs. shorof! :)
 
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From: mxahmad@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Mehdi Ahmadi)
Subject: test
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:56:20 GMT

	this is only a test
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: To fans of babak
Date: 12 Dec 1992 03:23:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
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In article <92344.193853RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> RMODARR@auvm.american.edu (Reza Modarres) writes:
...

>   from what goes on around SCI. This is becoming long. I guess what I am
>   saying is go ahead have fun in/with the fourm but don't push anyone out.

point well taken.  babak adds tremendous value to this forum.   to actually
have a live representative of iri speak and publicly defened their unique
points of view is invaluable.  as far as "pushing him out" goes, well, i  
think hes much too poost koloft to really mind anything we say.  if i had 
ever felt like babak was the type to sAnsoor his views due to anything we
say, i would have never kidded around with him. 

besides, if anyones doing the 'pushing out' its the types of babak
and seyed with their 'pasgardani' and 'we'll add this one to your
hesAb in iran' threats... god only knows how many people feel 'pushed out'
because of these things alone.

i also tinks that our horsing around actually keeps him active and
in shape!  

>P.S. who loves you baby?!
                    ^^^^
is that baby or bAby?
who loves bAby, as in bAbakeh khodemoon?  we all do!  

>
>RezA


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From: farhad@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Tehran.stanford.edu is messed up!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:33:31 GMT

In article <wJawVB2w165w@halcyon.com>, satan666 <satan-@halcyon.com> writes:
|>  I tried FTPing to tehran.stanford.edu and it won't let me in!
|> Can someone please post something on what to do?
|> 
|> Satan.


Tehran is fine!!!  Maybe you are messed up!



-- 
Farhad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.rights.human
From: mrizvi@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Mr. Mubashir Rizvi)
Subject: Re: U.N. Decries the Khomeini regime again
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:34:53 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:43:57 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <sehari.724370078@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>In <1992Dec14.184650.10664@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
>
>

[my stuff delted]

>
>Maybe, one of the best ways to control this problem from entering Iran
>is to test everyone, who enters Iran.  If one found to be positive,
>she/he should be sent to quarantine, in case he/she is Iranian, otherwise
>deny entery to him/her.  Other measure could be mandatory Aids testing
>of all the people on the yearly bases, and infected people should be send
>to quarantine.  I know it is expensive, but it is effective.
>
>Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the 
>un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations 
>and get married.  This money should be returned to them if they get married
>within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
>the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
>years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
>Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
>suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
>signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
>to save our society.
>
>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.
>-- 

I can't wait till this guy finds out that his "temporary wife" or girlfriend
had AIDS, and the only reason she wanted to sleep with him is she
wanted to give him AIDS!

I suggest if you think this is a good method, and would voluntarily vote
for such a thing, why wait for the law to be passed?  Just go and turn 
in your driver's license, and pay the remainder of whatever you make to
the governement (of course, you can keep 10%), and vow to continue this
until you are married.  By imposing such restrictions on yourself, you
can be sure that your expectations will drop rapidly, and you will 
certainly get married quickly, thus hopefully reducing the probability 
that you engage in premarital sex.  By setting such a good example, I'm
sure your proposal will gather support very quickly, and it will be passed
by a landslide!

This is one of the best examples I've seen of frantic reaction to and fear of 
AIDS.  AIDS is a truly deadly disease, and in many cases is preventable
through education and awareness of how it is contracted.  The fastest way
to see AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases spread is to create an
environment which is very closed and does not acknowledge sexuality,
puts a taboo on sex, and always avoids the subject and suppresses anything 
having to do with it rather than deal with it.  This is the environment in 
Iran today, thanks to the IRI's policy of sexual apartheid. I hope it does
not become another stupid mistake that our people end up paying for.


Agha Javad
From: hydrosol@ecl1.uri.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: This is just a test> [sci-poster]
Date: 19 Dec 1992 07:06:27 GMT
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Salam every body. Please ignore this message. A new user just testing.

Khoda-Hafez
 
 
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Date: Saturday, 19 Dec 1992 17:13:02 CST
From: <U60001@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: EE PROGRAM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIV.

DISREGARD THIS POST.  IT IS POSTED IN THIS NEWSGROUP BY MISTAKE.
I APOLOGIZE TO SCIers FOR THIS MISTAKE.
From: hydrosol@ecl1.uri.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: tesing #2 [sci-poster]
Date: 19 Dec 1992 07:20:20 GMT
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Salam every body. Please ignore this message. A new user just testing.

Khoda-Hafez
 
 
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