From: rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: Rover stares down my barrel.
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:43:37 GMT
	<1992Aug17.170346.13874@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Chemical Engineering
In-reply-to: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:03:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.170346.13874@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:

   In article <RIGG.92Aug15234929@osnome.che.wisc.edu> rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (T
   im Rigg) writes:
   >In article <1992Aug11.153140.42266@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dreamer@kuhub.cc.ukans.
   edu (David Caruso II ~~~) writes:
   >       I would speculate that most of such people are not
   >   emotionally aware of the actual killing. ...
   >
   >[stuff deleted]
   >Give folks a bit more credit.  If it was that simple, why wouldn't a
   >quick trip to a farm stop all (nonhunting) meat eating?

   Have to disagree with you on this one.  Of course, intellectually, they know
   the meat is from an animal that was killed.  I've personally assisted in the
   slaughter and butcher of sheep, goats, chickens, lizards, wild
   boar, deer, and cattle.  Many of your non-hunting friends would be
   incapable of eating meat after watching the slaughter--I've seen it happen to
   confirmed meat eaters.  They'd get used to it after awhile--I would give your
   friends credit for that.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.  My grandmother
raises a few chickens and the whole family often works togehter to
butcher them.  No one has any problems later eating the chickens.
Also, many of my friends have joined me while cleaning fish.  None
were the least bit hesitant to also join me in the resulting fish fry.

   Here's the irony: many of your omnivour friends probably consume much more
   meat than you or other hunters (ie., are "responsible" for more deaths).
   I wish the anti-hunters would think about this more often.

   You, and me--because I've gone on record as having slaughtered animals I've
   eaten--are viewed as Great Satans by our non meat eating anti-hunting friends.
   Interesting; I eat considerably less meat than the average American.
   With that meat that I do eat, I know exactly what the animal gave up for my
   meal, how it looked and felt.  Most Americans--the vast majority-- don't.

This is an interesting point.  I don't eat very much meat at all.
This is mostly because I don't think it is that heatlhy for you,
espeically farm-raised meat.  In fact, I often go for up to a week
without eating meat.  My general trend is to eat vegetarian when it is
convenient, ie. at home, sub shops, or chinese resturants.  However, I
have no problems eating meat when it looks good or there are no good
vegetarian options.  

I would eat more meat if I had enough venison to eat it more
regularly.  However, I am about out of venison and have been for a few
months.  It is a good thing bow season will open in a few weeks...

tim
--
    ...  Then they came for me,
	   and by that time there was no one
	     left to speak up for me. (Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945)
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