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From: ftit@campine.engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Re: Tuvan languages
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:05:50 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ftit@campine.engin.umich.edu


In article <97804@netnews.upenn.edu>, weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
|In article <16NOV199209402043@utkvx3.utk.edu>, rmwade@utkvx3 (Robb Wade) writes:
|>	d) ending consonant G- this is more voiced than the Russian G  
|>in such words as Bog and Kogda.
|
|Huh?  `Bog', the Russian for God, is pronounced differently, like Bach
|with a different vowel.  Given this, I don't see if you're making some
|essential point, or just a blunder.

I think it's a regional accent or dialect thing.  I'm from Moscow and
pronounce it with a hard G, but I've heard people from Kiev tending to
prononuce this and other words as you describe.  Sorry, only two data-
oints for what they're worth, but I think the official pronounciation is
hard-G.

|-- 
|-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)

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From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Subject: Re: Ulaan Bataar (was Re: Uighur & other scripts.)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:01:42 GMT

In article <Bxx5o3.J6n@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com> dan@hpwin051.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett) writes:
>Erm...
>
>Just a comment on "Ulaanbaatar" and "Ulan-Ude": there's been a lot of
>Communists around these places in the past 60 years. And we all know
>how much communists like changing place-names...

This is also evidenced in the symbols that adorn the flag of Mongolia. There
is a series of shapes including a yin yang symbol, and one that could be a
representation of the moon (or sun?). This set of symbols has been around for
hundreds of years, yet when the Communists took over, they added a star at the
top. I don't know if Mongolia will lose the star, but I have some mail from
the Mongol-American Cultural Association, and there is no star.

Corun

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (R. Thiyagarajan)
Subject: Carnatic and (some) sanskrit CDs available
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:35:03 GMT


Pl send me e-mail

Thanks
RT
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From: kayshav_dattatri@taligent.com (Kayshav Dattatri)
Subject: Re: Good Luck Mr. Moily................
Organization: Taligent
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:59:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.101011.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> 
> Hi Netters,
> 	
> 	Recently in one of my postings, I had predicted Mr. Veerappa Moily to
> be the next CM of Karnataka. I am glad to note that Mr. Moily has been sworn
> in as The CM on Nov. 20th in the historic Vidhana Soudha. 
> 	
> 	For a person who has been in active politics for more than 20 years and
> served as a minister under four earlier chief ministers, it should not be a
> difficult task to shoulder the new responsibility as a CM now. I am confident
> that we will have a more efficient and corrupt-free govt. under the leadership
> of Mr. Moily. 
> 
> 	Let us all wish the new CM good luck on his assumption of his office.
> 
> Jeevesh Srinivasmurthy
> j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Note : Without the flow of electrons there is no flow of data.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------   
> 
> 

What a bummer?

Moily and clean government?

This sucker is one of THE most corrupt politicians well trenched in the
government circles and in the liquor domain. And remember that famous
Byre Gowda  incident where he was on tape trying to accept (or offer) a
big bribe. I know the inquiry and all that crap exonerated him. Sure no
politican has ever been indicted by a commission.

As long as these old BandiCoots (Heggana to be precise) are around
karnataka is doomed.

And to feel that VM is a better person is a big reward for all the dirty
politics this creature has been in the forefront of.

Wither Karnantak government


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From: ganapath@tahoe.qualcomm.com (Chinnappa Ganapathy)
Subject: Rediscovering India (was Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE)
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:24:55 GMT

In article <jrdqzsp@lynx.unm.edu> deepu@abiqui.eece.unm.edu (Pradeep Vittal) writes:
>
>BTW, how many of you discovered the beauty of indian classical music after
>coming here?? I am really curious! having gone to a pseudo-sophisticated
>school in the pseudo-sophisticated area of bangalore, i was into " hard
>rock", "classic rock" etc, though under a blanket term "rock".
>just an opinion! i am still into it.....
>Looking forward to seeing your opinions....
>
>

I have found the same thing happen to me.  I missed Indian music (in general)
after leaving India.  I wonder if it has anything to do with subconsciously
feeling homesick or if missing it for a long time caused a sudden craving
for it.  In my case it probably had more to do with having room-mates here
who were deeply into Carnatic music.

There's another observation I'd like to make on a related note.  Looking
at India from the outside has given me a different perspective on the
country.  There are a number of characteristics of Indian society that I
liked to think were okay.  However, after looking at it from here, I now
see things in a different way.  My eyes have opened to things that I used
to accept without blinking.  I'm referring to things like the caste system
and poverty to "expected behaviour" and social customs. 

Just to set the record straight, I'm not trying to point out negative
aspects of India.  I'm merely making an observation about my altered
perspective.

Chinna
P.S.  My signature should bring back memories to anyone who ever lived
      in Mysore!
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From: shriramv@cs.montana.edu (Shriram)
Subject: Idli Vada Dosa in Ibrahim Sahib street
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:21:18 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak Kenchammana-Hosekote)
Subject: Re: Bangalore: A Nostalgic Perspective (Part 4)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa, canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:24:09 GMT

In article <92Nov20.180720est.47525@neat.cs.toronto.edu>, kulki@cs.toronto.edu (Dattatraya Kulkarni) writes:
|> I studied in REC, Surathkal, a near autonomous place. Though a
|> semester scheme, we had our hard days, but definitely can not
|> match the trauma of Bangalore and Karnataka Varsity friends.
|> (BTW KREC is the only place where exams get preponed!). Here is
|> my equation for marks one gets in Bangalore varsity:
|> 
|>     M = a(E) - b(P) - L - Cm - d
|> 

Ah hah ! I see you have forgetten to include the ubiquitous _Skinner's 
Constant_ : the great equalizer.

\thee puck
PS: Rest assured that KREC is not the ONLY place that exams are preponed. BITS
Pilani is another such school !
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From the dream came the vision.
From the vision came the people. 
And from these people came this Kenchammana-Hosekotan.
From: ved@cis.ksu.edu (V-Cube)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Good Luck Mr. Moily................
Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:45:03 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept of Computing & Information Sciences
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Originator: ved@cis.ksu.edu


In article <1992Nov21.101011.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
|> Hi Netters,
|> 	
|> 	Recently in one of my postings, I had predicted Mr. Veerappa Moily to
|> be the next CM of Karnataka. I am glad to note that Mr. Moily has been sworn
|> in as The CM on Nov. 20th in the historic Vidhana Soudha. 
|> 	
|> 	For a person who has been in active politics for more than 20 years and
|> served as a minister under four earlier chief ministers, it should not be a
|> difficult task to shoulder the new responsibility as a CM now. I am confident
|> that we will have a more efficient and corrupt-free govt. under the leadership
|> of Mr. Moily. 
|> 
|> 	Let us all wish the new CM good luck on his assumption of his office.
|> 
|> Jeevesh Srinivasmurthy
|> j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Note : Without the flow of electrons there is no flow of data.
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------   


And in Congress culture:

       	WITHOUT THE FLOW OF MONEY THERE IS NO FLOW OF WORK!!;


	So Good Luck Mr. Moily, successor to Mr. Bangarappa,
		you can think of making more Bangara's (sic).....


Ved.

 
-- 

	
	
	Vedananda V.V.	
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: jose@csd.uwo.ca (Jose Thekkumthala)
Subject: address of DECCAN HERALD
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: alt.culture.karnataka
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:23:10 GMT

Hi netters,
     If anyone has got the address of DECCAN HERALD in Bangalore, could
     he e-mail that info. to me? Thanks a zillion!
             jose@csd.uwo.ca
From: dbrus.Unify.Com.ijk@unify.uucp (Indradev J. Kadidal)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: YACM (Yet Another CM) for Karnataka - Moily chosen
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:05:33 GMT
Reply-To: dbrus.Unify.Com.ijk@unify.uucp (Indradev J. Kadidal)
Distribution: na
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA, USA



The news just in... another Karnataka CM has been (s)elected - Veerappa
Moily has just been given the authority by the centre to pillage and plunder 
the state.

The other candidate in the running, SM Krishna, was reportedly not selected 
for the same job because he is from the "forward" community (duh..?!). I don't
think it matters who gets selected to run the state. As long as the current 
system of selection remains, the people of Karnataka (and others too) will
suffer the same fate, and deservedly so.

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From: rao@acs.ucalgary.ca (Harish Rao)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering India (was Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:54:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

>P.S.  My signature should bring back memories to anyone who ever lived
>      in Mysore!
>-- 
>Chinnappa Ganapathy    |      People who claim they don't let little
>ganapath@qualcomm.com  |      things bother them have never slept
>QUALCO/\/\/\/\         |      in a room with a single mosquito.


Which part?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Harish 
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From: naveen@Autodesk.COM (Naveen Chandra)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re:Bangalore: A Nostalgic Perspective (Part 4)
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:16:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


>>  We guys in Bangalore University  had  4  year  annual  scheme  as
>>  against 8 semester scheme of Mysore University.  If you are under
>>  the impression that less number of exams means less  trouble  you
>>  are mistaken.


   That reminds me of the number of exams being retaken each year by
   innumerable number of students.

   This is what one of the guys who had flunked repeatedly over the years 
   replied to our professor when asked about his results. 

   Yenri, yella pasaytha isali. 

   Yella Ayth saar.  Marks card nella binding kottidini.

   
   
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From: j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Good Luck Mr. Moily................
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:10:11 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Hi Netters,
	
	Recently in one of my postings, I had predicted Mr. Veerappa Moily to
be the next CM of Karnataka. I am glad to note that Mr. Moily has been sworn
in as The CM on Nov. 20th in the historic Vidhana Soudha. 
	
	For a person who has been in active politics for more than 20 years and
served as a minister under four earlier chief ministers, it should not be a
difficult task to shoulder the new responsibility as a CM now. I am confident
that we will have a more efficient and corrupt-free govt. under the leadership
of Mr. Moily. 

	Let us all wish the new CM good luck on his assumption of his office.

Jeevesh Srinivasmurthy
j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna)
Subject: Lessons from the storm for Karnataka
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:10:25 GMT



 The recent storm related deaths in Karnataka - 70 at the last count made me 
sad and frustrated at the slow pace of infra-structural development. The storm
itself seemed to have taken a strange route. It hit Sri-Lanka hard and Tamil 
Nadu suffered the most on the Indian side. This would imply that the storm 
started off from the Bay of Bengal and then crossed over the land mass from the east.
Kerala and Karnataka were battered by the rain in ensuing depression over the 
Bay of Bengal, this was probably when the storm crossed the land mass a second    
time. A very surprising tropical storm. 

This storm once again under-scored the need for soil preservation in Karnataka. 
Karnataka ranks at the top in tree planting and in survival rates for trees
planted. But I have serious doubts if the tree planting has been as extensive in 
all parts of the state. In particular I suspect the efforts in the following 
districts - Raichur, Gulbarga, Bijapur, Bellary and yes even Chitradurga. 

My understanding of the virtues of tree planting is that it enhances the aesthetics
naturally, but it also holds slippery top soil, which not only preserves the 
nutrients in the soil but prevents flooding. The TungaBhadra reservoir is simply
enormous. The sheer size and volume of water when it is full is fascinating. But
when the engineers in the command area decide to release the water, the residents
down stream in Raichur and Bellary ( the districts where the irrigation canals 
have been built) have to heed to it. Normally they don't. Every one of them 
believes that they are out of danger since they are slightly away from the river 
or the canal. That they are not directly in line might be true, but when a lot
of water is released and the top soil might give way due to insufficient tree 
growth the threat of flooding is real. 

In the storm last week, the worst affected districts were Raichur and Bellary for 
exactly this reason. They just aren't prepared to handle a lot of water. When 
Karnataka plans such big projects some thought must be given to preventing such 
mishaps. They must start on a "war-footing" ( a standard phrase used in Indian 
political parlance but never done) tree planting in the northern districts of the 
state. 

Sanjay
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From: kulki@cs.toronto.edu (Dattatraya Kulkarni)
Subject: Re: Bangalore: A Nostalgic Perspective (Part 4)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: usa, canada
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:07:37 GMT

I studied in REC, Surathkal, a near autonomous place. Though a
semester scheme, we had our hard days, but definitely can not
match the trauma of Bangalore and Karnataka Varsity friends.
(BTW KREC is the only place where exams get preponed!). Here is
my equation for marks one gets in Bangalore varsity:

    M = a(E) - b(P) - L - Cm - d

M = total marks for a subject
a = is inverse ackerman's function that grows very slowly
E = Slogging done
P = No. of postponements
b = a nonlinear function that decreases on first postponement
    and rapidly increases after that.
L = is the luck factor, which is set by
    no. of trips to Basavanagudi Temple
                    Nandi ityadi temples
    and a random number generated by the varsity
Cm = is the mood of the guy correcting the paper,
     average cases > 0
d  = the position of the exam with respect to others,
     high for first, decreases for next few, and suddenly increases. 
     
Improvements on this formula are welcome from those experienced :)

--kulkarni
From: vsp@NSD.3Com.COM (Venkat Prasad)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Bangalore food and fun
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:19:44 GMT
Distribution: alt.culture.karnataka
Organization: 3Com Corp., Santa Clara, CA.



> hiTTu-hiTTu...

You should go there when the kavali is bisi. Try around 7:00 PM in the
evening and you will get well roast masale.. At the end of my recent
visit I went there one last time before departure just to savour the
taste till I landed here !

try next time...

/Prasad

   In article <BxKM9n.GG1@taligent.com> kayshav_dattatri@taligent.com (dattatri) writes:
   [some material deleted]
   >
   >And how can you forget Vidyarthi Bhavan in Basavana Gudi. Great masale.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   >

   Somehow I don't find myself agreeing with you. True, Vidyaarthi Bhavan
   did have a reputation for Masala dose'. But I think the quality
   of the Dose' has been on the decline for quite some years now.
   On quite a few occasions, I have found that the Masala dose' there is 
   mostly "hiTTu-hiTTu". I have found that there are a few other places
   which sell better Masala dose' but I can't recall their names
   right now. Can anybody with better memory/greater experience
   come up with the names ?

   I guess many people (including me) used to visit Vidyaarthi solely 
   because of its reputation. I wonder how many times the management has 
   changed hands over the past 20-25 years.  But somehow the magic still
   lives on. *I* am sure to visit Vidyaarthi the next time I visit
   Bangalore even though I know that there are places that sell better 
   Masales :-)

   >Those were the days..
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   >

   Yeah, yeah(just don't rub it in, OK ?!!!). :-) :-)

   >
   >KD -- kayshav_dattatri@taligent.com

   Regards,

   --Sudhi.

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From: kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak Kenchammana-Hosekote)
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:30:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.025223.24377@usl.edu>, sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG) writes:
|> >	
|> >	However, I do agree that some college students end up doping
|> >	because they are short of funds. This seems to be a very disturbing
|>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^/\/\/\/\
|> >	trend because once they are hooked, it might be very difficult to
|> >	quit. I remember that a group of addict who murdered an old woman
|> >	in Ulsoor because they ran out of funds to buy dope. 
|>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^/\/\/\^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >
|> 
|> I find the usage of the word "funds" very amusing in this context.
|> I also think it is inappropriate usage. Does not the word "funds" 
|> imply "money for constructive activity (only)" ? 
|> 
|> What do the English gurus out here on ACK (if there are any at all)
|> feel about it ?

Perfectly correct. Doping IS very much a 'constructive activity'. 

\thee puck
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: ganeshj@cs.tamu.edu (Ganesh Jayadevan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Karnataka's new CM
Date: 22 Nov 1992 10:52:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.tamu.edu

I read the news of the way our new CM was selected.
After having watched the PresidentIAL elections,
I can only feel sad seeing whats going on in India.
We Indians are fooling ourselves into thinking our
country is democratic. No way it is.
Plato I believe has said that a democracy can work
only if the populace is literate. Probably explains
the situation. 
My heart bleeds for India.

_______________________________________________________________________________
Ganesh Jayadevan			|
Dept of Computer Science	|  "What can Intel do without memory?"
Texas A&M University		|
______________________________________________________________________________

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From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.culture.electric-midget
Subject: Dead interesting posting...NOT!
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:43:24 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

What is this, eh?  What a waste of space THIS is.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.electric-midget
From: adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton)
Subject: Re: Dead interesting posting...NOT!
Organization: Milo's Meadow
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:29:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.144324.1627@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
>What is this, eh?  What a waste of space THIS is.

YOO AR IRRRRELLEVINT.  YOO WIL BEE ASIMILATEDD.

CATO
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