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From: sivap-m@acsu.buffalo.edu (Muhunthan Sivapragasam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.india,rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: SPIC MACAY ( Buffalo ) LEC-DEM by L. SUBRAMANIAM
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:17:14 GMT
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Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

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				   SPIC-MACAY
      ( Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Among Youth )

				   presents a

			      LECTURE DEMONSTRATION
				       by

				Dr L. SUBRAMANIAM
           	    accompanied by Prakash Rao on the Miridangam

				on Oct 4, 1992 ( 6pm )
					at
				Baird Concert Hall,
		        University at Buffalo ( North Campus )


	For further info contact :
		swani-s@acsu.buffalo.edu, or
		peri@eng.buffalo.edu, or
		sivap-m@cs.buffalo.edu


	Dr L. Subramaniam, the most respected Indian violinist on the international
scene has become a legend in his own time, largely due to his individualistic style.
His prodigious talent was evident even at the age of two and he gave his first
performance at the age of six. Since then he has taken this age-old, rich tradition
of music to places where it has never been heard before, performing in such prestigious
venues as the Bolshoi Theatre, the Lincoln Centre, and the Royal Albert Hall. He has
scored music for several movies and was also the musical advisor for Peter Brook's
stage production of the epic Mahabharata. He has received several honors including
the Padmashree from the Government of India.

	Prakash Rao entered the world of music at the age of 12. He was the disciple
of Sudarshanacharylu, Vellore Ramabadran, and Ummayalpuram Sivaraman. He has
accompanied several artists including Ravikiran.

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	Directions to Baird Hall :
		- Take exit 50 off I-90
		- Take 290 W
		- Get off Millersport North
		- Stay on the left lane and take the COVENTRY ENTRANCE to
		  State University ( University at Buffalo )  North Campus
		- At the STOP sign, make a left
		- Turn RIGHT into Baird A or B parking lot
		- Baird Hall is directly in front of you

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From: makrisna@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (Krishna Achuta Rao)
Subject: Re: L.Shankar
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:51:18 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-11782]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu

In article <BvEoL5.3zs@news.fai.com> balajiv@kyoto ( ) writes:
>Ranjani Saigal (rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu) wrote:
>
>Shankar and Subramanium are brothers. (Vaidyanathan is the third and
>lesser known brother.) He plays the 10-string stereophonic violin (the double
>violin), and is perhaps the only musician in the world today to do so. This
>violin has a far greater octave range than does a normal violin, and since
>it is also electrified (is this the right verb?) it sounds quite different,
>and in fact suits his style of music. The frequencies produced by the
>instrument are indeed amazing, especially at the lower end of the audible 
>spectrum. 
    L.Shankar is not the only one that plays the double violin if I may be
    nitpicky :-) I recently saw a bluegrass jazz band where it was used
    quite a lot by one of the guys.. sorry I don't remember his name. I do
    know that the band had Bela Fleck (of the flecktones) playing in it.
    
    On a more relevant note, has anyone else seen the three brothers L.Shankar
    L.Subramanium and L.Vaidyanathan play together. I saw them years ago and 
    remember having a great time.... they played "pure" carnatic.
-Krishna

>
>Enjoy the concert!
>
>-b.
>(balajiv@hadar.fai.com)
>--
>On ne meurt qu'une fois, mais on en profite longtemps.     -Serre


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Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: vchandra%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (V Chandramouli)
Subject: L.Shankar
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:45:22 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

From: vchandra@asylum.cs.utah.edu (V Chandramouli)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: L.Shankar
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I just saw some albums of L.Shankar being mentioned. However nobody seems to have
mentioned Galaxy by L.Shankar which is a RTP in ragam Abheri.This is awesome esp.
the pallavi portion.I know it is available in cassette but I don't about a CD version.

As an aside,I thought the ordering was L.Subramaniam > L.Shankar > L.Vaidyanathan.
Is this ordering correct ?

I would also like to know if a cassette existed where all three bros. or at least
any two of the three have performed together ?

Thanks much,

		--Chandramouli
From: nar@wam.umd.edu (Revathi Narasimhan)
Subject: gawaali (sp?) music
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:54:55 GMT


I recently heard some Gawaali (sp?) music on the Indian
program in Wash. DC.  I found it be interesting, but I don't
know much about it (except obvious stuff like it's in
Urdu and is probably popular in Pakistan and Punjab).

Anyway, could anyone enlighten me and other RMIC readers
on this style of music?  

Revathi Narasimhan
From: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu (SUBU Ramasubramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Lyrics request: carnatic
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:48:49 GMT
Reply-To: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


	Could someone post the lyrics to one or more of the following songs:

1. SrivaLLi ( Natabairavi)
2. Giri pai (Sahana)
3. Nagumo (Kalyana Vasantham)
4. Koluvamaragada (Thodi)

Thanks

Subu
From: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu (Ranjani Saigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: L.Shankar's concert in Boston
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:29:02 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: L.Shankar in Boston -A review?
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Folks -
	
	So many of you had so kindly replied to my query about L.Shankar. Also
many of you wanted to know about how I liked the concert. So here is just
a personal opinion. 
-------------------------------------------------------------

	The concert was at Paine Hall at Harvard University. The audience was
unusual in that there were more Americans than Indians. L.Shankar was
accomapanied by Swapan Chaudhari on Tabla,  Pulavur Srinivasan on the
Mridangam and Harley Earley on the Tambura. 

	He began the concert with Siddhi Vinayakam (Shanmugapriya Adi Tal)
(Yes he did sing throughout the concert). He then went on to play a
piece in Ravi Chandrika and ended the concert with a RTP in Shankarabaranam
(set to Mahalaxmi talam). Most netters had told me about his CDs with these
pieces on them and hence I thought he may perform something different. I  do
not know how different his renditions of these pieces were from the CD.

	I must admit that I think he is truly an outstanding violinist. His 
violin  produced sounds that I did not think were possible. His
mastery of the violin was amazing and he could make incredible music. The
music was very original. He did not stick to any norms thus making it unusual.

During the first half the sound system was way too loud. But that was fixed during the second half. His violin truly took me to another dimension.  But
I was very often brought back to earth by his truly awful singing. It really 
jarred my ears. Also his tempo was very fast paced most of the time. After
a while it got kind of repetitious. He always went from a low note to a a high
note on another octave at incredible speed and did not come back to the 
low note. He stopped his performance rather abruptly at a very high note. 
While the effect was unusual , it was not very pleasing. I guess that sums up
his entire concert. It was like some mordern art - very unusual, original
but not always very pleasant. 

	His concept of Talam was very complicated. The percussionists were
outstanding. I REALLY enjoyed Swapan's Tabla. He really could make even the
Tabla sound sweet. He was very very good. 

	All in all I am not sure if I am a fan of L.Shankar's. He is a genius
but I think I am too common a person to like his music.If he plays at
different tempos with more variety WITHOUT SINGING, I may listen to his music
again. But for now, I think I will stick with my favourite, Lalgudi Jayaraman.
From: jayasim@platypus.cis.ohio-state.edu (D Jayasimha)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: L.Shankar's concert in Boston
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:28:58 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <BvoALJ.I0w@acsu.buffalo.edu> madhv-s@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sriganesh Madhvanath) writes:
> The second half was a different story, mainly because of Shankar's
> unbridled vocalizing. 

In the Shankarabharanam Ragam Tanam Pallavi CD, Shankar hums along with his
playing the violin.  I really liked it especially when the voice blends 
perfectly with the violin and sometimes continues along tantalizingly
making one wonder if it is the "gamaka rich" violin playing or Shankar's 
humming.

jayasimha (jayasim@cis.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: banerj@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov ()
Subject: Re: L.Shankar.....
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:00:16 GMT

In article <Qen=wXO00VpOI3GERc@andrew.cmu.edu> Guntur N Balaji <gb29+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
. . . about the 3L violinists:

>They were born in a musically oriented family.  Their father
>Lakshminarayana was a gifted musician. (  Veena or violin
>I dont remember. )  He died when both L Subramaniam and
>L Shankar were young.  They were brought up by L Vaidyanathan.

From what I remember from the liner notes of a Shankar CD, their father
was an accomplished violinist himself. All three had their early music
training from their father. Also, I remember reading that they were 
born in Sri Lanka (Jaffna?) and fled to India during ethnic disturbances
in the early 60's. Apparently they just managed to escape with their
lives, and their violins!

Amitava

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From: dm6674f90@auvax1.adelphi.edu (DDM)
Subject: Hello,again
Reply-To: dm6674f90@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City, NY
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:32:05 GMT

	Hello from a newuser who wishes to reestablish his introduction here
on RMIC. I posted an intro about a week-two weeks ago. If anybody can would
you please e-mail me my posting as I have no access to it now and I would
like to know which artists I mentioned I enjoy in Karnatic music. I need
to know this because otherwise I would talk in future about artists who I
might not be as interested in.
	Thanks and does anyone know whether mr.ramesh gopi has yet
included my name (Dileep Makkuni) in his music club membership list? One
final request is for anybody out there to please send me some e-mail soon
so that I can get to know some of you guys and gals and also because I
consider myself relatively knowledgeable in the Karnatic music area and
thus might be able to offer anyone interested some help.
								Thanks,
								D.M.
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From: wernercg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig Werner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: American Singer Meera Devi Stone
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:05:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello, everyone.

About twenty-five years ago, I went to school with a young blind
woman who has since taken the name Meera Devi Stone.  I have seen
her once since I graduated, and I learned then she was studying
Indian classical vocal music in the hopes of being a professional
musician.  Does her name ring a bell with any of you?  I wonder
if she achieved her ambition.

Craig Werner <wernercg@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu,
wernercg@ubvms.bitnet>
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From: vs@cs.brown.edu (Vinay H. Srihari)
Subject: Re: L.Shankar
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:43:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.133043.16374@jade.tufts.edu>, rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu (Ranjani Saigal) writes:
|> 
|> 	I am going to be attending a concert by L.Shankar this weekend. Could
|> someone tell me something about him? He seems to be playing a unique double 
|> neck violin. Was it his invention? If so what was its purpose? Is he related
|> to L.Subramanium?
|> 
|> 	I would like some details about his style so that I can appreciate 
|> the music better. I am not even sure whether he plays carnatic or north indian
|> classical. He seems to have both Tabla and Mridangam at the concert. What are 
|> his famous pieces? What should I particularly pay attention to at the concert? 
|> 
|> Thanks in advance
|> 
|> Ranjani Saigal 

The double neck violin used by Sri L. Shankar, while not being his own invention is certainly
unique to him among contemporary musicians. L.Shankar and L.Subramaniam are brothers - I 
believe Shankar is the elder. Being more familiar with north Indian classical myself I am not
too familiar with his famous compositions since he is essentially a carnatic exponent. 

Apart from Shankar's performance (which will be nothing short of extraordinary), watch for the
jugalbandi and savaal-javaab between the Tabla and Mridangam. All three artists are among the
finest exponents of their instruments, so we should be in for an inspirational evening (yup, 
I am going too!)

I hope that helps - and see you Sunday...

-Vinay H. Srihari
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: balajiv@kyoto ( )
Subject: Re: L.Shankar
Organization: Fujitsu America Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:24:40 GMT

Ranjani Saigal (rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu) wrote:
: 
: 	I am going to be attending a concert by L.Shankar this weekend. Could
: someone tell me something about him? He seems to be playing a unique double 
: neck violin. Was it his invention? If so what was its purpose? Is he related
: to L.Subramanium?
: 
: 	I would like some details about his style so that I can appreciate 
: the music better. I am not even sure whether he plays carnatic or north indian
: classical. He seems to have both Tabla and Mridangam at the concert. What are 
: his famous pieces? What should I particularly pay attention to at the concert? 
: 
: Thanks in advance
: 
: Ranjani Saigal 

Shankar and Subramanium are brothers. (Vaidyanathan is the third and
lesser known brother.) He plays the 10-string stereophonic violin (the double
violin), and is perhaps the only musician in the world today to do so. This
violin has a far greater octave range than does a normal violin, and since
it is also electrified (is this the right verb?) it sounds quite different,
and in fact suits his style of music. The frequencies produced by the
instrument are indeed amazing, especially at the lower end of the audible 
spectrum. 

Although based on Carnatic music, his style is sometimes frowned upon by
purists of south indian music. This style is unique to the family (although
Subramanium is more traditional in his classical repertoire). Most of the
time Shankar also has a tabla (usually played by Zakir Hussain) along with the
mridangam or ghatam (usually by Vikku Vinayakram) accompanying him. Since it
is not a typical carnatic classical violin style, but just Indian in general, 
even people who like Hindustani music would like his music. 

Besides classical music, Shankar has attempted fusion with jazz (but I
prefer his classical compositions). On the other hand, whenever Subramanium
has attempted fusion with jazz or western classical music, I like it
better than his pure Indian classical pieces (perhaps because he is more
traditional in his Indian style). Some of Shankar's recent CDs are, 
'Pancha Nadai Pallavi' (based on raga Shankarabharanam), 'Soul Searcher',
'Who can Tell (?)', all classical in their style. 

I have attended 3 of his concerts so far, and enjoyed each of them thoroughly.
Zakir Hussain and Vikku Vinayakram are brilliant (though I wish Zakir Hussain
was less flashy). Sometimes Shankar conceives his own talas, so if you are
good at the tala concept, you might detect something new in his concert.

Enjoy the concert!

-b.
(balajiv@hadar.fai.com)
--
On ne meurt qu'une fois, mais on en profite longtemps.     -Serre
From: jkeczmer@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Keczmerski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: San Diego concerts?
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:40:54 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California, San Diego
From: jkeczmer@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Keczmerski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: oops....  Concerts in San Diego?
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:03:56 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California, San Diego


sorry about that last post, let me try one more time:

Could someone tell me time/date/place/ and person/instrument
of upcoming concerts in the San Diego area?

Thanks,

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From: sivaras@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Sivaramapuram Subramanyam Kris)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: L.Shankar
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:24:35 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Sep30.133043.16374@jade.tufts.edu> rsaigal@jade.tufts.edu (Ranjani Saigal) writes:
>
>	I am going to be attending a concert by L.Shankar this weekend. Could
>someone tell me something about him? He seems to be playing a unique double 
>neck violin. Was it his invention? If so what was its purpose? Is he related
>to L.Subramanium?
>


	Yes, he is the brother of Dr L Subramanium.  I think it is his 
	invention, but I'm not too sure about it. I guess, the purpose was to
	be able to play a lot more octaves as compared to the normal violin.
	This probably suits him since he usually plays jazz.

>	I would like some details about his style so that I can appreciate 
>the music better. I am not even sure whether he plays carnatic or north indian
>classical. He seems to have both Tabla and Mridangam at the concert. What are 
>his famous pieces? What should I particularly pay attention to at the concert? 

	He started as a carnatic violinist. But nowadays he plays jazz most
	probably. He is a very good carnatic style violinist too.

>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Ranjani Saigal 


Krishna

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Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: sri@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (a.natarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: gossippO gossip!!
Keywords: GAUSS and SIP
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:31:21 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Greetings music lovers!

From a few e-mails I received, it appears there were several  who
enjoyed  my  "gossip"  column!   (Don't  they  say "gossip is our
national pastime!")

Let us  go back in time.. (okay, okay ....perhaps you don't  want
to  go  waaaay back in time as some of you may not even have been
born 25 or 30 years ago!!!); so let us go back to 1992.

I took a vacation in November,  1992  for  65  days  and  visited
India.  During  most of those 65 days, I stayed in Madras with my
brother's family and my two sisters'  families,  attending  music
concerts  in  the  various  sabhas and generally goofing off. One
day, while  I  was  shopping  in  Besant  Nagar  for  some  fresh
vegetables,  (looking  every  inch a typical middle class Sennai-
vaasi  -- vEshti, vibhoothi, a large cloth  bag  dangling  on  my
forearms,  ithyaadhi  vEsham)  and  as  I was engaged in "BAYRUM"
{BAYRUM is NOT a "RUM"}
(negotiating the price) with a vendor, I saw another customer  (a
woman)  also doing "bayrum" with the same vendor. One look at her
and her face appeared rather familiar to me; I  quickly  realized
that  she  had  an  uncanny  resemblance  to Lakshmi Shankar (the
Hindustani vocalist, the mother-in-law of Dr.  L.   Subramaniam);
so, I mustered up courage and spoke to her:

"excuse  me,  ungaLai  ppaarthaal  sangeetha   vidhushi   Lakshmi
Shankarai   uricchu   vechcha  maadiri  adhE  saayalaaha  irukku!
neengaL Lakshmi Shankarai paarththirukkELaa?"  ["excuse  me,  you
have  such  an  uncanny  resemblance to Lakshmi Shankar; have you
ever met her?"], to which the lady replied:

"I hope I do!  I  am her twin sister!"

[By the way, though no one has  "flayed"  me  as  yet  (including
erudite scholars from IITs, IIMs, IISc, and other such centers of
knowledge), I made a major grammar mistake in my earlier  posting
on  "L.  SHANKAR".  I  am  known  to occasionally violate Queen's
English, so bear with me!  In  my  posting  on  "L.  SHANKAR",  I
should have said: "each of us HAS gone our....", instead of "each
of us HAVE gone...". Likewise, in an earlier posting  on  SCI,  I
had  typed  "as FOR as I am concerned" though I meant to type "as
FAR as..."  Pardon my lack of penmanship!]

Respectfully submitted,
Natarajan at Bell Labs., NJ.
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From: vchandra%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (V Chandramouli)
Subject: Dr.L.Subramanium's father
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:00:25 MDT
Keywords: 
	
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

I wonder if shubhapanthuvarali was also included as it seems to be
an ideal raaga for such occasions.
Has anybody come across this cassette ?

	--Chandramouli



Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA