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From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: NATION Saturday Morning Sept 12, 1992
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:26:00 GMT

Again, could you or someone else tell it in their own words, giving us
their own views, rather than simply reproducing what the newspaper 
says?  First of all, both BKK Post and the Nation are freely available
in most western countries so we can find those articles ourselves, and
secondly as I have said before both newspapers are heavily censored.

I want to know what the Thai people are thinking, not what they are allowed to read after 
read after the censors have had a go.

Dr. Laurence Godfrey
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: I am increasingly disappointed....
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:37:00 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

I am increasingly disappointed to see that no network users based in Thailand
are using the opportunity afforded by this forum to exchange political views.
Since this is probably the only uncensored and (hopefully) unmonitored means
of doing this in Thailand, I wonder why not?

Laurence
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: anuchit@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Anuchit Anuchitanukul)
Subject: Re: Yet another *UNOFFICIAL* results
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:31:03 GMT

In article <9209131608.AA05351@ipied.tu.ac.th> trin@munnari.oz.AU (Trin Tantsetthi) writes:
>The info was taken from MCOT TV Channel 9 at 22:50 Bangkok time.
>
>                Bangkok  Central   North     N-E     South   Total
>
>Democrat           9        9        8        17       36      79
>Chart Thai         0       38       18        20        0      76
>Chart Pattana      0       12       22        29        0      63
>New Aspiration     0        6        8        32        6      52
>Palang Dhamma     22        6        6         7        3      44
>Social Action      0        4        2        14        0      20
>Seri Tham          0        2        2         5        0       9
>Solidarity         0        6        0         2        0       8
>Prachakorn Thai    3        0        1         0        0       4
>Muan Chon          1        0        1         2        0       4
>Rassadorn          0        0        1         0        0       1
>Palang Prachachon  0        0        0         0        0       0
>                ------- -------- -------- --------- ------- -------
>                  35       83       69       128       45     360


I am very disappointed by the result.  Thai people clearly didn't
learn from the May crackdown.  "Toxic waste" politicians are still
elected.  While the Democrat party got more seats (which probably
were New Aspiration's and Palang Dhamma's), Chart Thai, Chart Pattana,
Social Action, Seri Tham, Prachakorn Thai .... these parties which 
supported Suchinda are still able to retain most of their seats.  

I have tried to guess what are the possible "formulas" and come to
the conclusion that the new goverment may not last long.  
If the formula is Dem+NA+PDP+Solidarity, the total number will be
just a little over 180.  Even with Seri Tham, the new goverment
stability is still unclear to me, considering that many new MPs in
these parties are also new members of the parties and considering
Seri Tham's lack of commitment (ready to change side at anytime).

To yeild a stable goverment, the formula should include 3 out of
4 top parties, Democrat, ChatThai, ChatPattana and New Aspiration.
This formula will look very ugly and may not be possible at all.
From: trin@tlaeng.enet.DEc.COM (Trin Tantsetthi  14-Sep-1992 1212)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Official results
Date: 14 Sep 1992 15:24:48 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

The Local Administration Department of Ministry of Interior announced the
official results of the September 13 General Elections around 4am this
morning (Sept 14 Bangkok time).

Source: Army TV Channel 5 news. noon.

Total eligible voters:  31,855,156
            Turn-outs:  19,760,377  (62.02%)
        Invalid votes:     503,xxx  (2.55%)  -- sorry, couldn't catch it

Democrats          79
Chart Thai         77
Chart Pattana      60
New Aspiration     51
Palang Dhamma      47
Social Action      22
Solidarity          8
Seri Tham           8
Muan Chon           4
Prachakorn Thai     3
Rassadorn           1
Palang Prachachon   0
                  ---
                  360
From: prp@chulkn.chula.ac.th ("Ms. Puangpen Rayabphand - TIC Chula BKK")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Election Watch from Thailand - Nation - 10/09/92
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:25:24 GMT
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SAMAK BEGS FOR HIS PARTY'S POLITICAL LIFE

Prachakorn Thai Party leader Samak Sundaravej yesterday appealed to
Bangkok voters to save the 13-year old party by electing him and other
party candidates. Opinions polls have indicated Samak is not assured of
victory and the odds are high his party may lose in all Bangkok consti-
tuencies.  The polls favoured Palang Dharma in the race for House seats
in the capital. He also took to task the rival Palang Dharma and New
Aspiration Parties, whose leaders actively participated in the May protest
against former premier Gen Suchinda Kraprayoon. 


THAI EXPATRIATES KEEN ON USING VOTING RIGHTS

About 300,000 members of the Thai community in the United States want to
exercise their absentee voting rights in future general elections, say
visiting leaders of the Thai community in the United States. Pramote
Dilokkamolkul, president of the US-based Confederation for Democracy,
yesterday he would present the proposal to Deputy Prime Minister and
Interior Minister Pow Sarasin when they meet today.


ANAND WANTS VOTER LIST ERRORS PROBED

Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun yesterday said provincial officials
responsible for mistakes in voter lists here should be punished if 
found to have acted corruptly.


POLL SEES DEMOCRAT RESURGENCE IN CITY : SURVEY CONTESTS PREDICTIONS
OF PDP SWEEP IN BANGKOK

The Democrat and Palang Dharma Parties' fierce popularity battle features
in the latest opinion poll conducted by the National Institute of Development
Administration(Nida).  The Nida poll is the first to have predicted a
strong showing by the Democrats in Bangkok, which has been Palang Dharma's
formidable stronghold.
From: trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com (Trin Tantsetthi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: ms windows fonts
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:12:59 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd.

In article <18816mINNb9l@sol.deakin.OZ.AU>, grahamf@deakin.OZ.AU (Graham Fordham) writes:
> Re my previous post concerning fonts for windows, I have been
> advised that some or all of these fonts may not be public
> domain - if this is indeed the case it just isn't wise for me
> to upload them to archive sites - so to all the people who
> mailed me, sorry folks.
> 
> For those who want to have a look for themselves mswindows fonts
> are available on the post bulletin board, Bangkok 2383901/2383902,
> but you might like to query Tony Waltham re their legitimacy or
> otherwise.....

As far as I know, these fonts are no longer available on this BBS.
From: trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com (Trin Tantsetthi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Network nodes in Bangkok
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:57:20 +0700
Organization: Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd.

In article <1475000051@igc.apc.org>, Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org> writes:
> 
> I know there is a network in Thailand called CCAN....not really
> sure how to access it. Will see what I can turn up for you.
> 
> Debra Guzman
> Human Rights Coordinator
> PeaceNet

[repost]

From: trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Help Our Unfortunate Kids
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:27:13 +0700
Organization: Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd.
Keywords: bbs, ngo

One may contact the Computer Communication Access for NGOs (CCAN) BBS at
+66-2-2089373, CCITT V.22bis, 2400bps, 8-bit, no parity. The BBS supports
bilingual Thai/English messages/menus. Thai character set is TIS 620-2533.
Subsequent English menus will be used once one chose "E" from the bilingual
main menu. No registration fee. No usage fee. You pay your phone bill.

There is a Fidonet link to this BBS. You may get in touch with some NGOs by
droping a mail to all@f3.n608.z6.fidonet.org, or to the SysOp
Yongchai.Jerdampai@f3.n608.z6.fidonet.org.

It might take some time to get the response if you send e-mail to this BBS.
Thailand gateway BBS does not pick up her mail packet from the US everyday.
CCAN also does not pick up her mail from the gateway BBS in Bangkok
everyday. The Fidonet link is quite sensitive to traffic since it's based on
a dial-up line. Cost for netmail is covered by donation from a few (very
few) modemers in Bangkok. Funding pool for international link is not healthy
at all.

So, keep your message brief and =NO= hello/how-are-you/who're-on-your-bbs 
kind of message please.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: wxw5067@usl.edu (Wonghanchao Wit)
Subject: About Thai election
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: Thai student
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:53:10 GMT

We have some opinions about the Thai general election's result.

1. For us, it is likely that the parties that can form the government
may be the Democrat, Phalung Dhumma, New Aspiration and Solidarity.

Advantage:

   - These parties stand on the people side during the May crackdown
   event. Mr. Chuan, Democratic party leader is widely accepted as the
   good candidate for the position of Prime Minister.

Disadvantage:

   - This government is not quite stable.  Because it only has about 10-20 
   MPs more than the opposition parties.

2. For the votes result it seems to us that the Bangkok votes are much more 
   different from the rest of our country.( like an independent state)
   We think that the votes result from up country is not much different from
   the last election. So, the base of each party in up country is very
   strong and not much depend on the political situation. The Bangkok votes
   are more likely to reflect our country's current political situation.  

3. Gen. Chatchai shows again that he is one of the most experience politicians 
   in our country. The strategy he used is the same as so called 
   "divide and conquer" that we study in computer science curriculum.  

   3.1 Divide the problem into 2 subproblems with smaller size ( 2 parties
       Aha!)

   3.2 Try to solve the subproblem seperately and easily. ( See, 2 parties
       each got less votes but.....)

   3.3 Combine the solution into final solution. ( If you combine MPs from
       both parties together, it is around 130 . More than what Chatthai
       party got in the last election, Chaiyo Hoo Hue !!)

	We appreciate that at last someone can apply what we have learned 
in the analysis and design of algorithms to the real life situation 
successfully.( Even in a messy system like Thai politics!)
	Due to the theory, this algorithm is very efficient. He can set up
the government in less than O(nlog2 n) step. ( Don't be serious, ha ha)

4. Mr. Chuan, as a leader of the biggest party, is supposed to be the next 
   Prime Minister . But nothing is certain in Thai politics because 
   Gen. Chatchai is waiting for his chance. It may turn out that he comes
   back as our PM. again. So, we go back to the situation 2 years ago. 
  ( "Back to the Future Part IV")
	That's too much for now. Please enjoy further discussion.

  Wit Wonghanchao
  Putchong Uthayopas
  Patchaya Pitakpaivan
  Woratip Kunteeraprasert
From: prp@chulkn.chula.ac.th ("Ms. Puangpen Rayabphand - TIC Chula BKK")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Election Watch from Thailand - Nation 09/09/92
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:36:31 GMT
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OVERSEAS THAIS HERE

A group of 160 Thais who live in the United States arrived in Bangkok
from Los Angeles last night to vote in the election on Sunday. The group
member of the Confederation for Democracy in America, will today meet
local members of the confederation , the main driving force behind the
pro-democracy uprising in May. The group may later hold a press conference
at the Asia Hotel to explain their objective in returning to Thailand. They
will receive a briefing on the voting process tomorrow from Bangkok
Metropolitan Administration officials. Later, at the Rattanakosin(Royal)
Hotel, the group will meet the relatives of people killed in the May 17-20
military crackdown on demonstrators.


SKIPPING MASS TO VOTE IS NO SIN, SAYS PRIEST

Going to a polling station is more important than attending Sunday Mass,
a catholic priest said, while vividly explain the need of electors to
exercise their voting right. "Every vote is important for[the development]
of our country's democracy," the priest, who is a foreigner, told people
at the church.


SAMAK STICTS TO STAND

The Daily Mirror of Prachakorn Thai leader Samak Sundaravej confirmed
its pro-military stand in style on Saturday. While most other newspapers
deplored Friday's much-publicized incident inside the Army Auditorium,
during which soldiers booed and jeeedr politicians and shouted abuse at an
outspoken woman taking part in political debate, Samak's daily dealt with
the issue in a totally different manner.


NORTHEAST REGION HOLDS THE KEY

The Northeast will be the most crucial election battleground that will
determine whether Chat Pattana(National Development) or New Aspiration
will become the biggest political force after Sunday's poll, the Special
Branch Police Division said yesterday.
From: htk@munnari.oz.AU (Hugh Thaweesak Koanantakool)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: 71-year-old man votes, dies
Date: 15 Sep 1992 02:02:17 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

71-year-old man votes, dies
The Nation Monday September 14, 1992
 
A 71 -year-old man collapsed and died yesterday morning after casting
his ballot in Tak's Mae Sot district.
 
Kaew Jaihuan, a resident of Mae Tao precinct, left home at about 8.45
am, saying he wanted to vote for democracy, according to his
son-in-law, Prayoon Yodkham.
 
The polling station is about 500 metres from his home, said Prayoon.
 
A polling station official, Young Singhatong, said he saw the old man
arrive at the station and he appeared to be in a good mood and was
chatting with his neighbours.
 
Young said Kaew, after casting his ballot, collapsed as he was about
to leave the polling station.  He died as he was rushed to hospital,
he added.
 
Prayoon said Kaew suffered from high blood pressure and heart disease.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com (Trin Tantsetthi)
Subject: Re: SSsssssssssssssssssssss
Organization: Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd
Date: 13 SEP 92 09:49:14 THA


In article <1992Sep13.132111.793@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, mech411@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes...
>...
>I remember during the May Crackdown Khun Yongyuth of the Nation and Khun Komol
>(sorry, if the name is wrong) of BKK Post used to post a lot.  But, now there 
>is no news from both. 
>This is a 'something missing', I think, and probably this that makes SCT
>so quiet.  Please post us some news if you have time.

The machine that Khun Yongyuth, Khun Kamol and Khun Somsak were using during
the May crisis is now being used for PollWatch (OngGoneGlaang) operations.

I am under an impression that priority for access to the machine has been
temporarily changed -- but I could be totally wrong.
----
Trin Tantsetthi                           trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd.        ...!decwrl!tlaeng.enet!trin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: SSsssssssssssssssssssss
From: mech411@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 13 Sep 92 13:21:11 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

It's very quiet here in SCT even though today, 13 September, is the
general election day in Thailand.  It would be a very busy day there.
The only thing we can do while staying abroad like this is give a 
support to our fellow countrymen by hoping that they would cast their
votes wisely.  For the past fews weeks, Khun Trin (of Digital Equipment)
and Dr Yunyong (of Chulalongkorn University) have kindly informed us of
the political progress in Thailand, and I really appreciate this -- the
others, too, would have the same feeling.  Please continue doing so, because
many overseas Thais are curious about the ongoing situation there, in Thailand.
I remember during the May Crackdown Khun Yongyuth of the Nation and Khun Komol
(sorry, if the name is wrong) of BKK Post used to post a lot.  But, now there 
is no news from both. 
This is a 'something missing', I think, and probably this that makes SCT
so quiet.  Please post us some news if you have time.

Thanks
Yongyooth Sermsuti-Anuwat

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: mbuntan@epx.cis.umn.edu ()
Subject: Thaipolitics
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:30:37 GMT


I wonder if any of us in Thailand
could help post updating reports on the election day?
I'm pretty sure that many of us who live abroad are curious to find out.
From: htk@munnari.oz.AU (Hugh Thaweesak Koanantakool)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Odd items...
Date: 15 Sep 1992 02:02:33 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

Odd items, remarks.
The Nation Monday September 14, 1992
 
THe number of ballots counted at three separate polling stations in
Bangkok's Constituency 1 totalled more than the number of eligible
voters recorded by the Interior Ministry.
 
When counting was completed at polling station No 85 in Dusit district,
votes tallied at 609.  The number of eligible voters, according to the
Interior Ministry's official record, is only 455.
 
A similar incident took place at polling station No 87 where there were
1,092 eligible voters but officials counted 1,565 ballots.  At nearby
station No 88, total votes were 1,014; the number of eligible voters is
only 831.
 
The three polling stations are located in front of military units which
dominate the district.
 
Prachakorn Thai Party leader Samak Sundaravej was the only candidate
from his party to win in this constituency, followed by Winai Sompong
and Arkorn Huntrakool of Palang Dharma Party.
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: 09 Sep 92 19:47 PDT
Subject: Re: Network nodes in Bangkok
Nf-ID: #R:9SEP199212213083@sigma.tamu.edu:-385143201:cdp:1475000051:000:172
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Sep  9 19:47:00 1992


I know there is a network in Thailand called CCAN....not really
sure how to access it. Will see what I can turn up for you.

Debra Guzman
Human Rights Coordinator
PeaceNet
From: htk@munnari.oz.AU (Hugh Thaweesak Koanantakool)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: NAP stays strong in Northeast
Date: 15 Sep 1992 02:03:50 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

NAP stays strong in Northeast
The Nation Monday September 14, 1992
 
THE Democrat Party, shrugging off the psychological loss of its
"northeastern knight", Prachuab Chaisarn, swept 17 seats in the
Northeast in its best poll showing in the poverty-stricken region in
years, according to unofficial results.
 
The party's key ally, the New Aspiration Party, remained the strongest
single party in the Northeast, unofficially winning 32 seats.  It won
40 seats in the region in the March poll.
 
The 128 seats at stake in Thailand's biggest region were evenly
divided between the so-called "angelic" and "evil" parties.
 
The Chat Pattana, Chat Thai and Social Action parties, which were at
the core of the doomed Suchinda administration and were dubbed
"satans" by the press, won 29, 20 and 14 seats respectively.
 
Chat Pattana's share in the Northeast was lower than initially
expected. The pary fielded several veteran northeastern politicians
and had Democrat defector Prachuab at the helm of its election
compaigns.
 
Former prime minister Chatichai Choonhavan, who formed Chat Pattana in
July in a much-heralded move, campaigned hard in the Northeast by
highlighting his previous projects for the underdeveloped region,
especially his "turning the Indochina war zone into a trade zone"
policy.
 
Chatichai and New Aspiration leader Chavalit Yongchaiyudh became
bitter rivals in their bid to dominate the Northeast.
 
While Chatichai climed his Indochina policy was paving the way for the
region to become a gateway to Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia, Chavalit, a
former army chief, said this was made possible only because of his
military role that "helped bring peace" to Indochina.
 
Chatichai's three-man team won in Nakhon Ratchasima's Constituency I,
despite an initially fearsome challenge by palang Dharma candidate and
fam ous artist Visa Khanthap.
 
The loss of Prachuab had been thought a major setback to the Democrats
who won 12 seats in the Northeast in the March election.  Its surprise
sweep of 17 seats significantly contributed to the party's success in
yesterday's poll.
 
The Democrat Party's surprise was boosted by the fact that most of its
17 succesful northeastern candidates are new faces in Thai politics.
 
The Palang Dharma Party also successfully made inroads in the
Northeast, winning seven seats afteh emerging empty-handed from the
March poll.
 
The newly-formed Seritham Party of former House speaker Arthit Urairat
won five seats in the region. Two other esats surprisingly went to the
Muanchon Party.
 
Fierce competition in the Northeast was underscored by statements by all
prime ministerial hopefuls  - Democrat leader Chuan Leekpai, Chatichai,
Chavalit and Palang Dharma founder Chamlong Srimuang - that they were
determined to increase their stakes in the region where results are
crucial to their political futures.
From: fyta@chulkn.CHula.ac.TH (Dr. Yunyong Teng-amnuay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: a new MP
Date: 14 Sep 1992 01:28:19 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

Khun Jakkrapan Yomjinda (former TV anchorman) is now one of our
new MPs.  He is being interviewed on TV.  He is for Rayong.
He got a lot of sun-tan all over.  Very dark on the screen.

fyta
Dr. Yunyong Teng-amnuay

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
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Subject: test
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:31:19 GMT

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