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From: ds8k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Donpaul C. Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why Q700 Rebuilds Dtop?
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:07:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MePs7te00WBM07AMdH
	<6psxp-j@rpi.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>|> We have a Quadra 700 here which has a Seagate 250Mb drive...
>|> 
>|> It has been formatted with a number of different disk formatters:
>|> 1) Jasmine DriveWare
>|> 2) SCSI Director Pro 1.8
>|> 3) SilverLining 5.31/12  (I know this isn't the latest version)
>|> 
>|> Every time the machine starts up, it rebuilds the desktop in the 
>|> boot partition....
>|> 
>|> The System has been reinstaled from scratch (7.0.1 with TuneUp 1.1.1)
>|> 
>|> Any ideas, comments, suggestions...
> 
>I have found that if you have a Mac which normally uses System 7, but
>boot with System 6.x.x, the desktop gets rebuilt when you switch to
>System 7 again.

I have a 700.  Not that i'd even want to, but:
    You can't run any System under System 7.0.1

7.0.1 was supposably an extra kick to make 7 work nicely on the Quadra line
Just my 0.02, i wouldn't give up System 7 for anything [till 7.1] :-)

-Donpaul C.
From: sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Rebuilding System 7 Desktop without losing Info comments
Date: 23 Jul 1992 05:45:09 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu


There's an INIT called CommentKeeper that will preserve Finder comments
during a rebuild.  It's FREEWARE.  I don't know if it's on sumex; I got
it off Zmac.

-- 
-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------
Samuel S. Tai          | Wisdom is supreme, therefore get wisdom.
sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu | Though it cost you all you have, get understanding.
                       |                                -- Proverbs 4:7 (NIV)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: NEW VIRUS ???  File copy erros 41 etc. ...
From: jlawrence@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:49:22 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Jul31.165232.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, johnwl@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>   I have been having a VERY frustrating time during file copies in the last
> few days and wonder if there is a new strain of a desktop-linked virus at
> our site.
>   My machine: IIcx 8/80 with System 7.01 (tuned), INITS include Quickeys 2.12
>               Norton's Suite of stuff, Behierarchic, AfterDark and AppSwitcher.
>   The scenario is this:
>   I erase a floppy disc - its desktop reads 1K in use, 779 free. I then try to
> copy a simply 50K PICT file from my hard drive to the floppy. One of two things
> happens; either the file takes about THREE minutes to copy and once there the
> file is 50K and the desktop is 92K (!!)  -OR- the Finder bombs with an error
> number 41.  This happens with a variety of files.  I have tried Disinfectant
> 2.9 (it shows nothing), rebuilt the desktops of all discs I use, re-installed
> the System software etc. etc.
>   When I look at the HUGE desktop with Norton I see the usual "ERIK" text, then 
> a couple of words that say Translation, then a few patterns of A's and *'s.
> Nothing that looks predictable or virus-like.
>   So, what gives ??  Do I have a hardware problem ? (this has also begun
> happening on a friend's MacPlus too !) OR, is there a NEW virus out there ??
>   Anyone seen this ?!?  I am going nuts trying to figure this out !!!!
> 
>                               thanks for ANY help !            Jack



I have been having a similar, possibly related problem.  Occasionally, I'll
copy a large group of files, and the machine hangs for several minutes, then
copies some, hangs some more, than keeps going.  Also, I have SuperClock 3.9.1
on my machine, and the disply font becomes EXTREMELY jagged, reverting to its
normal smoothnes about a minute after the copy is finally done.  I am running
7.0.1, tuneup, many extensions, although it hangs occasionally with extensions
off.  It seems to do it only when copying a folder containing Many files
(usually over 600-700 k.)  Thought I'd throw that out.  I'd appreciate help,
too.
From: howie@sitka.boeing.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Someone should start a recall drive against Gov. Wilson
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: howie@sitka.boeing.com ()
Organization: Boeing Defense and Space Group

Does he abuse a Mac?  Is *he* the one responsible of all the "Bad F-line instruction" 
messages???  If so, then I can well understand why Chet posted his message to this 
newsgroup and this newsgroup alone.

* All opinions are *mine* and *not* those of my employers! *
Howard Modell                  INTERNET: howie@sitka.boeing.com
Boeing Def.&Space Grp.                   hmodell@polari.online.com
Seattle, WA                                 72376.252@compuserve.com
          "Slavery is NOT dead ... get a mortgage and see!"
From: Laurie Carlson <honoluluweek@igc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:47 PDT
Subject: Re: Font from hell
Nf-ID: #R:tdboyce-160792104234@lloyd-at1.c:572217198:cdp:1364900038:000:356
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!honoluluweek    Jul 24 16:47:00 1992


Check if anything like Suitcase II is running. See what files it has open,
if any. There is a bugus resource loading somewhere, maybe an INIT?
Any open file has it's FONT resources open to the system. Trashing the
system was good, but now, do it again, along with the FINDER and FINDER
PREFS. these are *probably* the problem.

happy troubleshooting,
matt
From: thompson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Heidi Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: PS and Font Crashes
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:55:23 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Here's my problem:

I have a Mac Plus with a Jasmine 40 Meg Backpack hard drive, and a large
 number of fonts, both ATM (postscript type I) and TrueType.    My problem is
 that since I moved to System 7, whenever I try to print postscript to disk, I
 get a "Finder Address Error", or "Unknown Trap" or something like that.  The 
same problem occurs when I try to use the TypeBook and the FontClerk (PD
 type cataloging programs), but not with FontPrinter or Varityper Toolkit. 
 It's a pain!  It crashes my whole machine, even with all inits removed 
completely from the hard drive.  I reformatted the hard drive with Apple's 
HDSC Setup 7.0, using the tricks outlined here and in other places, using 
Apple's own drivers, but I still get the same problems.  Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Heidi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: smithc@lars.acc.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith)
Subject: Re: Bad F-line instruction?
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield (aka Cow Country), MN   USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:58:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.034951.21764@news.stolaf.edu> smithc@lars.acc.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith) lets his hands get ahead of his thoughts:
>prevented or that take sometimes at least an hour to begin to fix.  If
>I tallied up the number of lost hours, we could possibly be talking a
>4-digit figure here by the end of next month, seeing how things have


We're talking cost-wise, not hours-wise...  If it were that bad, I
would've quit my job by now...

  ==================================================================
			 Christopher A. Smith
       German & Mathematics -- St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
		     Internet:  smithc@stolaf.edu
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1 : What is going to be in it?
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:46:52 GMT
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

Who pays for system software???? When I ordered new Macs, I got a coupon
for system 7 WITH the manuals!  For my other Macs, before I ordered the
new ones, I downloaded it free from apple.com.  Same with TuneUP and
QuickTime.  Again, WHO pays for apple system software?  Oh, Apple does!
Very expensive to produce your own software, I know I was a systems
programer for 10 years!

watson@clark.edu
From: hmayor@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Heather Mayor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Postscript files
Date: 31 Jul 1992 14:57:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

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Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:15:24 -0400 
From: "Donpaul C. Stephens" <ds8k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: System 7.1 : What is going to be in it?
	<7893@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>

Uh, excuse me for asking but:

Why upgrade to 7.1 if we have to PAY for all the goodies that make it
nice?  Its like saying: "OK, take a day, install 7.1 on all your
machines and it'll still be the same ole system 7, nothing more...Oh,
you want to know why to Upgrade? Buy the toys that make the system
really 7.1.

Apple:
I heard you are integrating ATM into 7.1, i like that.  Making TrueType
not so much of a bear that we can work with it, like that too.  Reducing
the memory requirement, ok.  Faster, like that too should have been that
way anyway.  Adding more stuff so we will love our macs even more,  now
that i love!  Make us pay an arm and a leg for the goodies?

I thought the reason my mac cost more than a PC was that the company was
a bunch of nice guys that wanted to take the pain out of computing, no
matter how technical your work is.  I can understand charging people for
discs and manuals, but if people can understand it, let em at it.  Thats
another reason why people love their Macs.

Donpaul C. Stephens
"On my income tax 1040 it says 'Check this box if you are blind.'  I
wanted to put a check mark about three inches away." 
		--Tom Lehrer, lecturing in "The Nature of Math", 4/4/90
From: lll@irisiris.brown.EDU (Lawrence Lee Larrivee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why Q700 Rebuilds Dtop?
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:25:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: stanley.14nbk3INNr3c
Organization: Brown University
NNTP-Posting-Host: iris.brown.edu


 
This is only slightly related:
I work for a company as a consultant. They have lots of Macs, and I spend lots
of time and solve lots of problems by rebuilding the desktop. Is there an init
(or some other way) to force the mac to rebuild the desktop every time it boots?
Also: is there a reason (besides losing "info" comments) that I _wouldn't_ want
to do this? 

Larry Larrivee
lll@iris.brown.edu
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: RE: System 7.1 : What is going to be in it?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 08:03:24 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:

>  Are they not going to include an ATM-like extension, then? I thought that was
>  a big feature.

That's part of QuickDraw GX.

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:20:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.033550.17414@tamsun.tamu.edu>, bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent) writes:
> 
> (Patrick Stadelmann) most innocently writes...
> > 
> > Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal ?
> > 
> 
> 
> And then myself and others reply thusly:

["It will be written in English" (or variations thereof]
> 
> Were we merely reading *too closely* or is this evidence of similar
> planes of existence?????
> 
> We're probably just starving for a quick grin..   ;-)

I was going for the quick grin.  I don't know about the rest of you.
[pun intended]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sacha@bernina.ethz.ch (Sacha Kalchofner)
Subject: disk full error
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:09:31 GMT

After connecting a CD-ROM-Drive to my MAC and using Moria for the first
time I started having problems with my MAC of the following kind (I don't
know if there's any connection with the two mentioned programs): When
I opened a word5-document it sometimes happened that when saving I got
a message like "error with WordTemp3" and I couldn't save the document.
Also the Settingsfile was corrupt or missing afterwards. I run disinfect
without result and I've left or then 10MB on my HD. When using HQX to
debinhex a file I got the message "disk full error, file cannot be
created".

Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman)
Subject: Re: Dvorak vs QWERTY (-: (was DVORAK Keyboard driver)
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
	<1992Jul21.025940.25368@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au>
	<1992Jul21.154241.21451@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:21:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.154241.21451@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> brandy@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BRANDAUER CARL M) writes:

   ...the human factors literature abounds with papers that show that
   there is no difference in performance for highly trained people using
   more modern equipment.

   Of course none of this matters to those who hold their version of the
   truth to be self-evident and sacred.

Including the poster, it seems, since he did not see fit to include
references! Please list them for us?

(When you do, I'll be back with rebuttals, but I'm not going to waste
keystrokes -- even if each one costs me 1/18 the effort -- arguing
with someone with their own sacred version of the truth.!)
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mmig6535@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Inaba)
Subject: error -97 with desk accessories??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:50:47 GMT
Keywords: system 7 erros

	Hi! can someone help me?  If I try to launch a
desk accessory, including alarm clock, which seems
pretty simple, I getthe desk accessory 'alarm clock'
could not be opened because an error -97 occured.
I don't have appletalk..if that's what it's talking about.
I have a modem and my keyboard hooked up to my mac
and i checked the chooser to make sure that I have
appletalk off.. I am running sys 7.0 with tuneup.
is this a common error? am I missing something?

please send me email of suggestions.. thanks!
-Mark
mmig6535@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)
Subject: Re: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:07:00 GMT


In article <1992Jul21.162000.740@cnedcu51.bitnet>, ifstadelmann@cnedcu51.bitnet (Patrick Stadelmann) writes...
> 
> Hi
> 
> Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal ?
> 
I suspect it will be written in English.  Just a hunch, though.  I'm sure it
will at least document all the Pascal bindings, since those are all there in
the Toolbox.  I'm not aware of Apple's having added any C language bindings.

                   /
                  /
        /  /  /  /		Peter Davis,	Digital Equipment Corp.
       /  /  /  /				davis@3d.enet.dec.com
      /__/__/__/
     /
  __/
From: U43610@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How do I expand my Mac+
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:17:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

I have a Mac + (Hold the Applause ;) -- I'd like to get it to 4 megs.  What
type of SIMMS do I need?  (1 need 4 1 megs simms, but what specs??)
-
Also, I already have an "homebrew" shoebox with a 20 meg hard disk (SCSI)..  I
would like to get a 40-100 meg disk drive for the Plus..  What kind of SCSI
hard disk do I need to get?  (Just a plain-jane SCSI drive--pull the old one
out and put the new one in and format it with silver lining??)   What is the
procedure?
-
Any help is appreciated..
-
Internet:  U43610@uicvm.uic.edu
Kenneth Ameika
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: KDC@helix.nih.gov (Keith Cummings)
Subject: Re: PowerOrgasm
Organization: National Eye Institute, National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:56:20 GMT

While I may get attacked for this, I think people have become entirely too 
thin skinned.  (Re: The last post (I can't get this darn reader to load the 
last post in my post)  I agree that people need to lighten up.
From: johnroc@cats.ucsc.edu (John Rocchio, (x3511))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: BIG fonts
Date: 28 Jul 1992 21:12:06 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cheshire.ucsc.edu



I'm searching for Bitmap versions of the various LaserWriter fonts in
large sizes (24-100 point).  I've found 1-2, but I remember that there
used to be a lot of these around and I can't find them now.  Any ideas?

John Rocchio
Univ of Calif, Santa Cruz
From: johnr@cged.co.uk (John Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HP LaserJet - can I use it with System 7?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:58:41 GMT
Organization: Computer General Electronic Design Ltd

I guess this is a dumb question, but can I use a LaserJet on a Mac running
System 7? We use LaserWriters mostly, but now want to hook a HP LaserJet
up. The output will be nearly all Microsoft Word output, so not much call
for graphics. Please e-mail if you can help with advice on the best way to
do this.

-- 
                                      John Richards
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo)
Subject: Re: Bad F-line instruction?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:22:14 GMT
Distribution: net
Organization: Apple Computer
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Jul21.130232.1938@centerline.com>, Devan F. Dewey
<dewey@centerline.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >and then I got this "Bad F-line instruction" error from the Finder.  I
> 
> Is anyone from Apple listening?? I get this message a lot, too. It would
> be nice to know what it really means.

It means that the CPU fetched and attempted to execute an op-code whose
high order 4 bits were all 1's.  Such opcodes are known in the Motorola
documentation as F-Line Exceptions, and are meant primarily to interface
with co-processors.  When the processor attempts to execute an F-Line that
doesn't correspond to an installed co-processor, it throws up it's hands
and traps into the OS, saying in effect "Here, you deal with it". 

The OS, knowing that no legitimate piece of code should have undefined
F-Lines in it, assumes that said code is horribly corrupted, and presents
the fatal error alert.

OK, so Bad F-Line instruction means that some code is corrupted. (Actually,
almost all of those cryptic fatal errors boil down to some code being
corrupted).  This in turn means that either:

1.  The copy on the disk got corrupted somehow, so that when you execute
that application (or int this case the Finder) you are executing bum code. 
The only thing to do in this case is to re-install the effected software. 
(NOTE, if you decide that your system is corrupted, drag the system file
and the finder into the trash before running the installer, to guarantee
that the installer actually replaces the whole thing).

2.  Some other application or INIT in your system is stepping on the
failing application in memory.  Try running with no INITS.  If this solves
the problem, start adding INITS one by one until the problem recurs.  Then
trash that last INIT.  If it is not an INIT problem, then one of your
applications is stepping on something it shouldn't (such as the Finder). 
Experiment around until you figure out which one it is, then trash it.

-tony

>>usual disclaimer<<
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Users & Groups Data File - Trashed!
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:36:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: c50mac1.Conrad_Nobili-240792012810
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: all
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <1992Jul21.214245.9557@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
Bob_Andris@qm.is.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Andris) wrote:

> Has anyone seen this happen?  Got an idea as to the cause.  The fix?

Well, I posted about this basic scenario a couple of weeks ago.
Does your U&GDF have a "blinded bunny" (or "Killer Rabbit")
icon after being trashed, perchance?

Nobody had anything to say about my post (except thanks to
Stephan for some terminological assistance ;-) ).  In *my* case,
replacing the U&GDF fixes the problem for some random, very
often large, number of subsequent restarts.

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: stu5s11@bcrka280.bnr.ca (David Simmons 1342678)
Subject: Re: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Reply-To: stu5s11@bcrka280.bnr.ca (David Simmons 1342678)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:25:42 GMT


> Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal ?
>
>					Thank you 
>
>
>-- 
>
>                 Patrick Stadelmann, Neuchatel, Switzerland                   
>  e-mail : Patrick.Stadelmann@info.unine.ch                                   
>   X-400 : C=CH;ADMD=ARCOM;PRMD=SWITCH;O=unine;OU=info;S=Stadelmann;G=Patrick

It's supposed to have summaries in both C and Pascal, according to the
About file, but in the draft versions I've read it's all in Pascal.
Of course the C summaries may not be done yet, or they may be in a 
not released Appendix.

----------------------------------------------------
John Andrusiak



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: andrews@sp2.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Andrews)
Subject: Re: DVORAK Keyboard driver, can I change the keys of my keyboard?
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:32:12 GMT

steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman) writes:

>>In article <1992Jul19.043758.28131@csrd.uiuc.edu> andrews@sp2.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Andrews) writes:
>>   I wrote a program to generate random patterns to help me learn the
>>   Dvorak keyboard.

>This is probably not the best way to learn the Dvorak keyboard. Dvorak
>based his design on frequency of repetition in the English language of
>"digraphs", two-character sequences. Since most common digraphs are
>vowel-consonant or consonant-vowel, Dvorak placed all the vowels on
>one hand in order to optimize the use of right-left or left right
>sequences. In addition, he used relative digraph-to-digraph
>frequencies to implement "on-board-flow", where typical english-word
>keystrokes progress from the little fingers to the index fingers.

Since typing classes for QWERTY don't teach you by starting with all keys
using english text, I can't imagine that this is the optimal way to learn
Dvorak.  There are too many things to learn at once with regular text.
I think it is useful to nail the home row before trying regular text.

>>  I use a combination of doing real work plus these exercises to try
>>  to learn Dvorak.

>I'd ditch the exercises while learing, and you'll learn much faster.
>Just start typing from a newspaper -- the limited vocabulary will his
>your basic words extra hard.  As in the Morse code, you need to have
>"muscle memory" for entire words, or you will never get very fast.

>The patterns may be useful for developing strength and coordination,
>but probably only after you can already touch-type Dvorak.

Thanks, but my combination method is working well *for me*.

>--
>: : Jan Steinman	   steinman@is.morgan.com		 Bytesmiths : :
>: : 2002 Parkside Court				   West Linn, OR 97068-2767 : :
>: : 503/657-7703					       212/956-8722 : :
--
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Graduate Research Assistant, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system