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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:52:09 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: violins'n'stuff
              "Michelle May" at Sep 11, 92 8:37 am

> apparently at one of her concerts one of her strings broke during a concerto;
> she quickly grabbed the concertmaster's violin and then proceded to play (nev
er
> missing a note, of course).  She then broke a string on the concertmaster's
> instrument and grabbed the assistant concertmaster's instrument and continued
> on (again, never missing a note).  I have heard from some that she also broke
> the assistant concertmaster's string. . .

Hi Michelle, that reminds me of still another story, not quite the same but oh
well: it was a Candid Camera segment in which pianists were auditioning at a
grand piano on stage, and there was an invisible wire attached to the piano.
After the pianists would start to play, the piano would ever so slowly start to
creep away from them.  Of course some people stood up in bewilderment or a
huff, but one admirable fellow simply followed the piano offstage playing his
little heart out.

Sonia
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:32:43 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: covers
              8 Sep 1992 11:17:13 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:17:13 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>so, I'm asking the allmighty Allmusic list:  Name a couple or 3 songs
>you'd like to hear covered by some no-name band in a bar.  The kind of
>songs that would make you stop your conversation and say "Hey, that's <name
>of song>.  That's great!  I've *never* heard *anybody* play that before!

I remember having just that reaction when I saw that band John "Power" Hall
used to play with-- was it Orleans? Anyway, they did an okay set-- Hall sang
pretty good uptempo songs, the other guy sang drowsy singer/songwriter stuff,
and then they came back for an encore and played "I Want to Hold Your Hand."
And I thought it was tremendous-- high energy, non-trivial chord changes,
cool harmony vocals. So I recommend old Beatles-- although thinking about it
now, I might go with "She Loves You" instead.

Urban Ambience played the ever-popular Middle East Cafe a couple weeks ago,
and thrilled our handful of fans by playing Eno's "Here Come the Warm Jets."
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:29:08 CDT
From:         There is No Answer <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: need train song recommendations

>"Crazy Train"    Ozzy
>"Train,Train"    Warrant
>"Train"          Life, Sex, and Death
>"Freight Train"  Nitro
>"Nighttrain"     Guns-n-Roses

Point of Order: While I admit the word "train" is in the title,
"Nighttrain," is alcohol, not transportation.

If the Good Doctor's request is granted, I request "Nighttrain"
by Public Enemy to also appear on the record.

>All very suitable.....(for what???)

>                         DOC

Dave
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:23:58 PST
From:         Jim Grubb <JIMG@UCSFHC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Byrne
              11 Sep 1992 11:41:14 CDT from <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:41:14 CDT <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU> said:
>     Heard an interesting rumor the other day, David Byrne's planning
>a new tour sometime soon and is planning on stopping in Atlanta. Truth?
>Fiction?  I hate to be teased, please let me know if anyone has info.

I know that he is in Berkeley tonight but have no idea about any other
dates or stops.
JimG
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Re: jazz festival / trouble / capitals
Date: 13 Sep 1992 23:41:11 GMT
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In a previous article, ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) says:

>The Jeffinator,  Presto-rama, having a mid week crisis on the weekend.

  You're telling *me*!?!  Sheesh... first I find out the schmooze party
with Scott Henderson and Gary Willis is off, and *now* I find out that the
Holdsworth show at Bogart's in Censornnuti has been cancelled. Now all I 
have to do is find a way to Columbus without a car. Riiiight.

>BTW:  someone heard Steve Lacy talking about Monk, the way he would
>work, is that Monk would sit at the piano and teach you the tunes by ear 
>before he gave you the written music.  So where is the music that you have 
>to write down to remember?

  Oh but surely you would have to admit that Monk's stuff is among the
most "melodic" stuff you listen to... or talk about. I was referring to
the stuff that sounds more like a trainload of horns being derailed at
120 mph, i.e. John Zorn. Y'know... rolling a bowling ball down a flight
of stairs (or was that cardboard boxes?). That kind of stuff. The kind 
of tunes where if you miss a note, the only people that realize it are
the other guys in the band (and any groupies the band might have). Where
the critics say, "yeah, I can't understand it, so it must be sheer 
genius," etc.

  Heheheheheh... btw, it's past Friday -- do you know where your
drummer is?  ;)

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:38:00 EDT
From:         EdD tHe MaDd <DERLECT@CLEMSON.BITNET>
Subject:      Get thee eine clue, boy-o

  Oh the ire of Eds...
On Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:26:38 EDT AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU said:
> Ed:
> Who do you think you are saying that I'm bisexual?  I am happy to tell you
> that I do not love men.  By the way you are talking it seems that you are the
> one who is.  If you are married; I feel sorry for your wife for putting up
> with a jerk like yourself.
> This a free country and if I like a singer (even if he is male) for his music
> not his body like you are proposing.  The ones on the list who like Hendrix
> happen to be male means they are gay or bixexual by your bystanders of
> stupidity.
> END OF
>  DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!

Read the poem again,
   My very thickheaded friend
 for in between each line
   lies answer for question thine

        This Idea I have posed
           more graceful than in prose
        Seeking answer for the question
           Of the Billy Ray Cyrus suggestion.

               But since you're slow
                 I'll give another go:

                Billy Ray Cyrus's only appeal is sexual.
                Billy Ray is Male.
                Homosexual and Bisexual men find Males apealing
                You find him appealing.
                 Ergo, you are Homo- or Bi- or Many- sexual

       There then,
         the re-run,my friend,
           In planest tone
             for even IQ of stone.

                     If you reply again
                       speak with eloquent pen.
                     Do it in verse
                       you'll look none the worse
                     You might save face in the end.

                                          Love and Kisses
                                           EdD tHe MaDd
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:22:58 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: NEW POSTS

The Good Rotcod sez:

>Did NOONE catch my review of Sonia's comp tape, BLUES ROOTS?  Mebbe' it's
>just the lack o' traffic on the weekend, but we OWE the Steakqueen more
>reaction, as faithful as she is with her posts...

Are you sure that Sonia wants to be in the tape business?  I had
caught from the correspondence that she had just made you a present.
If so, let me know where to mail the blank tape, Sonia!

Also a Sonia worshipper,
Bob
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:41:58 CDT
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From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      HENDRIX

 IF JIMI WAS MARRIED, THEN HIS WIFE has the rights to his songs
 for 50 years AFTER his death.
 UNLESS of course, the publishers wanna be pains in the rear.
 ------
 This is stated in the Copyright Law of 1976.
 This law stands now.
 ------
 The stipulation on Copyright is this:
 Author's life + 50 years.
 If someone dies this year, then his song will still be protected
 50 years from now.
 I think that's neat, that a writer can have that much protection
 over his creations.
 Hope this helps, Bala....
 "G"

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:34:57 EDT
From:         Don Glover <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Heavy Metal Station / re: Quest For Sharrock
              9 Sep 1992 15:23:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

Speaking of Metal stations,

  There is a great station about an hour from me Albany, New York for all those
Metal Enthusiasts interested.  It's called Z-Rock and plays a very HEAVY
format.  Most of the time the station is in complete chaos, so it basically has
no special song lineups. They play 2,3,4 in a row,and don't stick to playing
stuff off of one album.  I believe the frequency is right around 102.3 fm but
am not sure since there signal is not strong enough to reach..."Beautiful
Downtown Poughkeepsie"...NOT!


See ya

Don
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:06:11 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Quartet/Gospel

AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU sez:

>Rev.
>
>You should know more about this subject more than any of us that serving God
>is the most important thing to do in life.  No matter what kind of Gospel
>music you listen to; as long as you get the message of God's love.

Anybody who can't tell that "Rev. Bob "Bob"" is a joke, is either
(a) putting us all on, or (b) in need of a little time aside during
his busy day to reflect.  Besides, didn't you understand that the
original post was about a *string* quartet, not a gospel quartet?

>I happen to be the secretary of my local Presbyterian church and a christian.
>But some of the things that are said on this list make me want to lose it
>sometimes.

I swear that I didn't start this mess, but having someone shove his
religious prejudices down my throat makes *me* lose it.

The really pitiful thing is that so many folks like this can't
conceive that someone with different religious beliefs has *chosen*
those beliefs because s/he thinks they're *better*.  I have yet to
find a born-againer who gives other people credit for seriousness of
thought (let's not all volunteer at once, net -- I'm merely telling
you my experience so far in life, not saying that it's impossible for
an evangelical to respect someone else's religion -- clear now?).

>I hope God forgives all of the people (including me) who lets this
>list think of things that is not in the exceptance of God.

I take great "exceptance" to God (or rather somebody who's sure he
knows what God thinks) putting his nose into my affairs.

OK, I get it.  The misspelling on the antepenultimate word was the
tipoff.  But I warn you, Mr. Nameless AISARMSTRONG, the next time you
pull a prank like this, you're going to get pranked back.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:05:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Ultravox

The first three Ultravox albums, the ones with John Foxx, have been
issued individually in England as part of Island's Island Masters
series.  No bonus cuts, though, which is a shame as there are some
non-LP cuts out there.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:00:01 CDT
From:         There is No Answer <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      covers

> Ok, my band doesn't have nearly enough originals to play out, so we're
>forced into doing some covers. We're sick of the run-of-the-mill covers,
>so, I'm asking the allmighty Allmusic list:  Name a couple or 3 songs
>you'd like to hear covered by some no-name band in a bar.  The kind of
>songs that would make you stop your conversation and say"Hey, that's <name
>of song>.  That's great! I've *never* heard *anybody* play that before!
>What a cool version. What a great band!  The best I've ever heard!  These
>guys are incredible........".   Ok, let me have 'em.

I've never heard of a no-name bar band that did "Sweet Jane" or
"Rock & Roll,"  by the Velvet Underground. I think at least one
song off _Tim_ is a requirement, preferably "Little Mascara," but
the Replacements might be too known for this list. I once saw a
band, "Molly and the Heymakers," who did an acoustic swing version
of "Fire," by Jimi Hendrix. Hell, you can't take it more rockin', so
might as well shove it the other way, huh? And, if your band plays
"Freak Scene" by Dinosaur Jr., I'll buy y'all a beer.

>Russ

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
"Sometimes I don't thrill you . . ."
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: jazz festival / trouble / capitals
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:13:52 GMT
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In article <m0mTCds-0006IwC@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> Lee=Jenkins%PCB=Sys=Int%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM writes:
>compaq is offering us free tickets to a jazz festival here in houston on
>the 20th.  the performers lined up are the rippingtons, george howard, the
>holly cole trio and larry carlton.  i've never heard of any of them, so
>i'm raising this up the allmusic flagpole to see who salutes and who pulls
>out their flame-throwers.  so whadda ya say?  would you go see this show?

nope.  you sure it isn't an elavator music festival?  ;)

Jeff
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Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 00:58:33 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
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Subject: Re: need train song recommendations

"Crazy Train"    Ozzy
"Train,Train"    Warrant
"Train"          Life, Sex, and Death
"Freight Train"  Nitro
"Nighttrain"     Guns-n-Roses


All very suitable.....(for what???)

                         DOC
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:24:56 CST
From:         "RichardClawson, S.J." <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Garrison Keeler
              8 Sep 1992 22:30:09 EDT from <ROPERK@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA>

There are several collections of A.P.H.C.  available on cassette, you might
 try a local Waldenbooks (TM) or, if possible get a copy of the mail-order
catalog called "wireless"  which, amongst the various cow t-shirts usually
carries a wide selection of Keelerama.  Lodged somewhere in my back brain is
a recording of nothing but songs by the big G. but I can't remember where or
when.
RDC,SJ
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:51:50 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Wind up workin' in a gas station

From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      tree of us

>    Power trio.  I don't like that name.  It implies too much of the
> Grand Funk/Hendrix-Experience/Cream over-the-top playing.  We are
> bass/drums/guitar, but we're not in the power trio style.  What our
> style actually is, I don't know.  We don't take ourselves seriously
> enough to be a power trio.

Sorry, all I meant by "power trio" was the configuration of instruments. But I
stand by Cream, I still think they were way cool-- they actually influenced me
as a guitarist and listener a lot more than Hendrix at the time (I had to catch
up to Hendrix after the fact, as I did with so much great old stuff; I still
feel like I spend 75% of my listening time researching what I shoulda known...)

>   So you're a RISD person, eh Mike?  Well that explains it then......

Well, no. I flunked out of Brown, but continued to hang around Providence
waiting for the woman who is now my wife to graduate. And I found I had more
in common with the RISD population, at least the ones that wanted to play.
I could never drink up to the Brown standard: "with our scotch and rye /
and our whisky dry / and our B-O-U-R-B-O-N" (sung to the highly forgettable
tune of Brown's alma mater, need I remark).

From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      mother of all medlies

>   Y'all might get a laugh at this:  For some reason, the bassist started
> playing that In A Gadda Da Vida riff.  So we went along with it, but it
> needed some words, so it became "In a bottle of ether, baby, like a fruit-fly
> who's lost his way" and so on.  Yes indeed, we crack ourselves up.

One of Zappa's guitar solo compilations features a tune entitled "In-A-Gadda-
Stravinsky." The rhythm section does the Iron Butterfly riff, a bit uptempo,
and FZ starts his solo over it with the bassoon intro to the Rite of Spring.
I like "Pop Goes the Doors," though.

From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re:  new to me?!?

>                             ...  A surprisingly large number of us
> like jazz and blues (surprisingly, considering the size of the
> population of jazz lovers, that is),

I'm not surprised. Remember that participation in lists is self-selecting,
that it weeds out the sort of passive consumers who buy Billy Ray Cyrus just
because they heard it 14 times a day for the last month and got addicted to it.
Those who post tend to possess the intellectual capacity and strength of will
to listen to stuff that isn't necessarily considered cool, stuff that requires
active listening to appreciate, and (especially) stuff that inspires debate.

>                                   ... and whatever that Irish
> goat instrument is called.

Blasphemer. May that Irish goat squat on your terminal.
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From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      "DIALOGUE PART 1"

 "I hope to study further, a few more years or so...'
  GEEZ!....
  DIDN'T think anyone kept up with this bunch like I do!!!
  I hope we can find out if Danny is outta drug-rehab soon.
  (Sources told me he went to Tahiti, and got really trashedA!)
  Hearing his playin' you wouldn't know...
  At least the Gang ("chicago") cared enough about their
 friend and co-worker to get him back to the states.
 "G"


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From: danielh@sequent.com (Daniel Hobbs)
Subject: Re: need train song recommendations
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:36:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.171619.7534@osf.org> dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>slothrop@cheshire.oxy.edu (Roger Lebow) writes:
>>You really HAVE to include Arthur Honegger's Pacific 231--the best symphonic
>>train ride I know of.
>
>If we're talking orchestral, "The Little Train of the Caipira" by Heitor
>Villa-Lobos, is so much more *fun*!  Also known as Bachianas Brasileiras(*)
>#2, and HVL is said to have written it while riding on the train.  Lotsa
>Latin percussion and a nice tune.
>

Second this!  I played this in concert band, and it's delightful.

I haven't been following this thread, so pardon if this has already been
posted, but it shouldn't be missed:

Much less delightful, but very worth listening to is Reich's "Different
Trains", performed by the Kronos Quartet (based on Holocaust experiences)

Dan Hobbs
danielh@sequent.com
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
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Subject: Re: The Quest For Sharrock
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:06:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <9209080840.aa28922@thama1.apgea.army.mil> gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL writes:
>
>Oh, sure, that's easy for you to say. I'm sure in Texas, you can walk into
>any music store and pick up a Sonny Sharrock CD.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not in Dallas.  If a store here gets any Sharrock, it's usually one or two
discs, and if someone else gets there first... but the Axiom discs (e.g.,
_Ask the Ages_) seem to be fairly easy to find.  Maybe that means no one's 
buying them. %)

>They have a Jazz bin a quarter of a mile long and nary a
>one by Sonny Sharrock, not even a Sonny Sharrock marker which let's you know
>"we had his stuff but are currently out of it right now." 

Probably not enough space for it, what with all those Kenny G CDs...

>looked for _Seize The Rainbow_ in two books (one big and one small). He
>informed me that _Axiom_ was the only listing by Sharrock in the small
>book. (I later found out that Axiom is the label that _Ask The Ages_ is on,
>hence realizing that this guy didn't know what he was looking for [Unless
>Sharrock *did* do an album called _Axiom_...did he?])

No, Axiom is just Bill Laswell's label.

>He then looked in this HUGE book, 

Probably a Phonolog, a worthless piece of crap that stores seem to feel
the need to exhibit and (pretend to) use.  Was it the 1987 edition? %)

>that must have every album ever made since
>the beginning of time in it, but (you guessed it) _Seize The Rainbow_. He
>told me that album was probably out of print.

I don't know if it's ever been in print in the US.  My CD is a German disc
on Enemy Records, catalog # 88561-8205-2.  You might be able to get a store
that carries imports to order it for you (warning: $18-22).  More and more
of the import Enemy CDs are getting released in the US, so you might want
to wait a bit.  I lucked out and found a used copy for $9.  

- Larry 
-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:28:17 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Johnny Shines

Just thought i mention i just found out that Johnny's widow Candy Shines
will recieve The First Ever Blues Jam Legend Award on behalf of Johnny
during the upcoming blues/jazz/gospel fest then she will perform with
the Kokomo Blues Band..Can I get an AMEN..about damn time
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