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From: huot@walter.cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: Leaving the computer on all the time -> Good or Bad?
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
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Date: 12 Jan 93 13:40:38 CST

Rob Henry (ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:



: Is leaving my 80286 on all the time good or bad for my computer?
: I turn it on and off at least 10 or so times a day.
: Is it better to just leave it on all the time?
: It 's about 70-75 in my house so I'm not sure about overheating 
: Also,what kind of power does it draw?
: I have the board and a floppy hooked up now as well as a monitor.
: Hard drive soon.

This is a subject which has been debated for a long time. No one
seems to be able to prove which is really better, although I think
most will agree that 10 times a day is probably not good for your 
system. As long as the muffin fan is working properly, and the inside
of the system is fairly clean, heat should not be a problem. Also
the power that a system such as yours uses is negligible. I would
leave it on during the day when you would be using it quite often,
and then turn it off at night, if it will not be used for several 
hours straight. You might also want to power the monitor off if the
system will be unattended for any length of time, since there have
been fires caused by monitors shorting.

When you get a hard disk, the system will use somewhat more power,
but it should still be well less than 100 watts. The problem with
power cycles and a hard disk is that the heads land each time the
disk is stopped. Today's hard disks are very durable compared to
those of a few years ago, but the head landing is wear and tear.
Hope this helps.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Subject: Re: What's wrong with OPTi chipsets?
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 23:09:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.155205.2238@wam.umd.edu> warren@wam.umd.edu (the stupid one) writes:
>some OPTi chipsets made in the past couple years appear to have
>a DMA fault that shows up on faster boards (33+MHz)

There was one weird "feature" which Forex copied when they cloned the
OPTi chipset... if MASTER# is pulled active outside of DACKi#, then
the system resets.  This occured a lots of times when DREQi was
removed ahead of MASTER# to speed-up the already slow handshaking.

If this is what everyone was referring to, it went away when the 385
chips were no longer being used.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: chris@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Christophe Paquay)
Subject: Re: Home automation & program
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:34:06 GMT
Organization: Eurocontrol - Central Flow Management Unit

In article <15506.1222.uupcb@meaddata.com> marvin.carroll%theweb@meaddata.com (Marvin Carroll)  writes:
>To: alpha@vpnet.chi.il.us (Randy Sales)
>
>RS..If you are interested in home automation and/or know of the x10 system of
>  ..control, I have information on two pc programmable controllers that work
>  ..with the x10 system of control.  The information is emailable.  Once progra
>  ..ed they run without the pc.
>
>Yes, please send me info.  All help appreciated.
>
>CarrollMD
>
>---
> . SLMR 2.1a . 1, PS/zero, then what???
>                                                                                                  

   I'm also interested by home automation and by your info
  about the X10 controler. Could you send me this info.

                Thanks a lot in advance.


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From: worley@a.cs.okstate.edu (WORLEY LAWRENCE JA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 64K Cache for sale, $25 delivered
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:51:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: a.1993Jan8.035127.9875
Organization: Oklahoma State University

I have 64K of cache RAM from a 386-40 for sale.  It consists of
eight 8Kx8 20nS SRAM DIPs, and one 8Kx8 15nS SRAM DIP.  This is a total
of 64K cache, and includes the fast 15nS chip needed by most m/b for
TAG RAM.  I just upgraded to 256K cache, and have no need for these chips.

All 9 chips $25 including shipping (continental U.S.).  

Please e-mail any responses.

-Jason Worley
From: j_wilson@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Hi how are you)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help with DTK 286 m/board, please!
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:26:15 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

Can somebody please help me with the following motherboard please.
It's a DTK PTM-1630C 16MHz. 286 board, that is badged as Viglen.
The problem is I dont know what type of RAM to use. It has two SIP sockets
marked bank 0/2 and bank 1/3. What sort and size of SIP (ie. 1M*8) and speed
should I use ?
Thanks in advance for any help offered.
Jamie.
j_wilson@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: Why do we read PC mags?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:49:51 GMT

gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:

>I recently resubscribed to PC Magazine, and after having received the
>January 26 issue, I must ask myself why.  The columnists are total
>morons, the hardware reviews are wrong, self-contradictory and biased,
>and the ads are not as good or plentiful as the Computer Shopper.

[stuff deleted]

Although I do not write for PC Magazine, I do write for SCO Magazine, and I
would like to clue you in on the process of publishing.  First in Janurary my 
editor and I discuss the article he wants for the next issue.  Then I write it
and have it done by Feburary.  Then he and the other editors layout the
magazine and make slides of the copy in March.  In late March it goes to the
printer, and in early April you get it.

Lot's of time lag, and lots of human beings involved, and you wouldn't beleive
how unresponsive some companies are to helping members of the press.  I
recently did an article reviewing ethernet boards, and 1 company took almost a
month to get me the product for the review.

It comes down to buying the magazine that is right for you.  If PC Mag doesn't
give it too you, then you need to switch.  I would also send them mail when
they are incorrect.

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
"Mad Scientists seeks mindless brawny assistants, good pay, quiet location."
"They're not ghosts,  they're metaphysically challenged." - Me
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
From: wallcave@updike.sri.com (Steve Wallcave)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 486DX-33 ??
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:01:35 GMT
Organization: sri


>
>> They also will not ship parts to you later. They allow you to cancel parts and
>> then charge more to order them separately.
>
>Not quite true, I believe; call your sales rep and ask.  I specifically asked
>my sales rep whether I could buy, say, a CD-rom later at the same price, and
>he said unequivocally "yes".  I imagine that they'd charge additional
>shipping, and you'd have to install software yourself, but you should be able
>to get the stuff at same price.

You are correct, although Holly in customer service said it would cost more
to order separately, Glenn at gateway@aol.com said the following:

It will not cost to order it separate if you had to cancel.  Tell add-ons
that it was originally with a system, and you cancelled to allow shipping,
and they will allow the $149.00 price.  You will not be penalized because of
shipping problems.

Glenn - Gateway 2000



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From: lance@hartmann.austin.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann)
Subject: Diamond Stealth/VRAM drivers v2.01 -- 800x600 problems?
Summary: Experiencing problems with 800x600 mode -- anyone else?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:57:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin
Keywords: scsi disk promise technology dc-2040 cache windows 32-bit

Is anyone else here using 800x600 mode of the "latest" (?) Windows 3.1
drivers (v2.01) for Diamond Stealth/VRAM?  I'm occasionally encountering
some items not being drawn correctly.  I most often see this with check boxes.
Switching to 1024x768 mode (same release - v2.01) seems to work fine,
except of course that I'll be blind with my small 4FG!

Lance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)
               Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address.
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From: blean@rwb.esd.sgi.com (Bob Blean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Run a 486/33MHz CPU at 40 or 50MHz?
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:46:42 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics

In article <1993Jan8.172942.7869@news.clarkson.edu>, faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Abdullah Faruque,334CH,3752,2654247) writes:

		...

|> Now the question is that how far you can increase the speed. There is
|> no rule here, it may run at only 1% or as high as 30% above the rated
|> speed.

Are DX2's as push-able ad DX's?  I.E. would you be likely to be able to
successfully raise 33mhz to 40 mhz, and with a DX2-66 have 80mhz internally?

--Bob
From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway video problem
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:10:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <4284@eastman.UUCP> lrxi00@icts01.Kodak.COM (James Nonnemacher) writes:
>Using the 15" Crystal Scan monitor in non-interlaced mode, with the Windows 3.1 SVGA driver, switching
>from Windows to DOS causes the screen to "jump" off center. Image can be recentered using montor
>controls.

Use the ATI install program's "Power-on Config - Custom Monitor" option to
recenter the display.  You will have the opportunity to position each mode
from 640x480 up to 1280x1024 with the arrow keys.  The settings will be
saved to the ATI Ultra's EEPROM, so you'll never have to do it again :)
Just don't be too flippant with the sizing and refresh rates...don't want
to push your monitor into the deep end.  Positioning the display area is
safe.
-- 
Dave Seah ^..^   | Graduate MSEE, University of Rochester, New York           |
                 | Apple II Graphics & Sound Forum Consultant, America Online |

[Internet] seah@ee.rochester.edu, AFCDaveS@aol.com   [America Online] AFC DaveS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 486DX-33 ??
Organization: Boo! 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:26:14 GMT

In <1993Jan7.215645.14557@gvl.unisys.com> pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor) writes:

>In article <41974@unix.SRI.COM>, wallcave@updike.sri.com (Steve Wallcave) writes:
>|> You are correct, although Holly in customer service said it would cost more
>|> to order separately, Glenn at gateway@aol.com said the following:

>I repeat, I specifically asked my sales rep whether I could order, say, the
>CD-ROM *after* I ordered my system, at the same price, and he said
>unequivocally YES.  I probably won't order anything soon, because I've spent
>enough money, but I will expect to pay the current advertised price, possibly
>plus a reasonable shipping charge, for add-ons.

Gentlemen, you;'re discussing 2 different things.  The CD-Rom is the same
price with system as without.  Mr. Wallcave, however, is talking about
the Microsoft Sound System, which is a different price bought separately
as opposed to when it's packaged with a system.  And his customer rep
wanted to charge him the extra $20 if it shipped without a system, but
that extra $20 should only be charged when it's ordered without a system.

>No offense to customer service, but I got very little useful or correct
>information from them while I was waiting for my order.

Very little is more than a lot of people get.  Tech Support is o.k., but
customer service seems to be out of it a lot.  I would encourage most
people here with a Gateway problem/question to deal with it by e-mail
(gateway@aol.com) - the folks there are generally better than the normal
customer service people.

>In article <1993Jan6.230623.25374@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>,
>j_manning@csc32.enet.dec.com (John Manning) writes:
>|> They either get the cards at a BIG discount
>|> or they do not want to sell the machines without the video card...

>Both of the above are probably true.  I don't know for a fact that computer
>hardware margins are as high as for, say, cameras, but it wouldn't surprise me
>a bit.  And I know that NY camera stores were selling cameras for *LESS* than
>I paid for them, when I managed a small camera store; yes, retailing them for
>below my wholesale.  So it's pretty reasonable to assume that Gateway can get
>great deals on mass purchases.

Yup.  And generally, the amount you get back for eliminating an item from
a system you buy from them is equivalent to the price you'd pay to buy
that item separately from Gateway.

Greg 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: schewe@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Schewe)
Subject: HELP! SMS HD contoller
Summary: Can you ID this?
Keywords: help
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:46:11 GMT

I have an XT HD controller labelled with a stylized SMS logo for the 
manufacturer.  Does anyone know what company this is?  It is based on an
OMTI chipset, and the only other ID on the board is the serial number and
FAB0005476 REV B.  I want to set the jumpers for a Seagate ST225 drive.

Please, no antique or paperweight jokes!

E-mail to tschewe@first.etc.bc.ca

Many thanks!:wq


:wq
From: anos@trixie.ineab.ikea.se (Anders Ostling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 1X3 Sim Memory
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:57:29 GMT
Organization: IKEA Northern Europe AB

In <1993Jan6.024656.26446@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10085@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG YENG YONG) writes:
>William R Super (bl961@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
>: 
>: I bought a new motherboard yesterday and I noticed that The Sim's
>: were 1X3.  Since I was not familiar with that configuration and
>: they had no 1X9's I passed on the memory untill I could get more
>: information.  Does anyone out there have any experience eith the
>: 1X3's ?

>The 1x3's SIMM are actually 2 x 4MBits RAM & 1 x 1MBits RAM Chips. The
>1MBits Chip is for Parity checking. They are actually the same as the
>older 1x9's SIMM.

My PC has 4 1x9 1MB simms and 4 1x3 1 MB simms. Works great.

/Anders

>Best regards,
>Steve


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: shopsis@panther.adelphi.edu (Charles Shopsis)
Subject: Re: Gateway vs. Austin questions
Organization: Adelphi University - Node: Boole
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:54:14 GMT

In article <slendt.96.726275567@unomaha.edu> slendt@unomaha.edu (Steven Lendt) writes:

>In article <C0D9DF.9q5@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>>From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
>>Subject: Re: Gateway vs. Austin questions
>>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:46:13 GMT
>>pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor) writes:
>>
>>>I could not find a vendor that offered as much system for the money as
>>>Gateway.  I wanted to; I had had an annoying experience with their sales staff
>>>in the past, and knew that tech support was sluggish.  Zeos is a little better
>>
>>I bought my last Gateway system from them about 1.5 yrs ago and
>>I've been talking to them about a new 66V system and have noticed
>>something - they will NOT lower their price!  The guy I used to deal
>>with would cave in with free shipping without me even trying!  This
>>guy didn't seem to want to move at all.  I'm going to try to call my
>>old salesman back and see if maybe it was just him, but has anyone
>>else noticed that they are more steadfast in their pricing? (I have
>>bought about 3 systems from that salesman over the years and always
>>got at least $200 off the total delivered price)
>>
>>One more thing - the lead time on the 66DX2 systems custom
>>configured is *3 weeks* !!! Jeez.  I was going to order it today
>>until I heard that.
>I ordered my 66DX2 and got it 12 days later.  It's like the signs
>at Disney Land that say how long the wait in a line is for a ride.
>Management says give them a big number and they feel happy when
>the get it faster.

I wish that were always true.  I ordered mine 3 weeks ago and I'm still 
waiting.  My credit card hasn't been billed yet and customer service won't 
return my calls.
From: rob@rjck.UUCP (Robert J.C. Kyanko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What's wrong with OPTi chipsets?
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 01:16:42 GMT
Organization: RJK Enterprises

rhh2h@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU writes in article <1993Jan7.174610.18631@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>:
> 
> 
> Why is it that most 386 buyers specify that they do *not* want 
> motherboards with the Opti chipset? I may be in the market for a
> 386/40 mb, and want to be informed.

Speed is the biggest reason as far as I am concerned.  According to PC Sources,
January 1983 issue, they make the slowest motherboard out there at the same
clock rate as the others.

--
I am not responsible for anything I do or say -- I'm just an opinion.
             Robert J.C. Kyanko (rob@rjck.UUCP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL)
Subject: Someone tell me what all S3 chips are available!!!!
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:44:30 GMT

Hello.

I'm curious what all S3 chips are available.

I know the 911 is the most popular.(currently)

The 805 & 924 are currently out.  What is the difference(s) between the
two?  

Am I correct in assuming that the 928 will be the faster S3 chip when it
is released?  When will it be released?  What rez/colors will it support?

Thank you *very* much!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: Comment on noise of Western Digital harddrives
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:04:10 GMT

I liken the sound of my WD2200 under rapid seeking to that of a
geiger-counter.  Not unpleasant at all.  There is also a sound I liken
to a breath-exhalation when the heads retract (to a safe zone?).

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

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From: j_manning@csc32.enet.dec.com (John Manning)
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 486DX-33 ??
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:03:23 GMT


In article <c49250d@rpi.edu>, gilem@aix.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile) writes...
>I really like my 486-33V, even though the ultra pro lb isn't the fastest 
>thing on the market anymore.
>gilem@rpi.edu

This is true.  I would like to get one of the gateway machines without the
Ultra Pro LB so that I can get a faster card but those rascals only discount
the price by $190 to remove the card.  Street price for the 1MB version
seems to be about $450 or so.  They either get the cards at a BIG discount
or they do not want to sell the machines without the video card...

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From: jimh@sequent.com (Jim Harrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 486DX-33 ??
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:39:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan7.233938.7714
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.181330.6349@camax.com> holt@camax.com (Jonathan Holt) writes:
>
>The 486DX-33V model they now ship has a VESA conforming local bus,
>but I couldn't justify spending the extra $$ for a bus that may or
>may not be supported by 3rd party vendors.  The hard drive controller
>and video board are already on the local bus, even on the standard 
>486DX-33 model, so I can't see getting it unless you really know you
>want it...
Are you sure about this? The sales person from Gateway that I talked
to said the 486DX-33 had the video board on the local bus but not the
disk. THe 486DX-33V had both on the local bus.
>
>The worst part about dealing with Gateway is getting through to them
>to make your order!
It took 2 days to get a call back. I own a Gateway 386DX-33 which I've had for
1.5 years and it's been great. I haven't had to call for support of
any kind probably because the components are so good. I am a little
concerned about how busy Gateway is getting, though. I may buy my system
locally just due to concerns about getting support. If you can't even
get through to the sales people what is support going to be like?
There's no question in my mind that they have good components.
>
>
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>holt@camax.com (Internet)                        Minneapolis, MN, USA
>
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From: csc@pilot.njin.net (Sean Casey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC vs. MAG
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Every Viewsonic I've seen has tilt problems at the edges. But
apparently the Nec FG line is plagued with similar problems. You'd
think you could spend a grand on a monitor and not have to send it
back.

Sean