HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cdavis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris Davis)
Subject: How do I junk all articles before the one I am currently on using rn?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: j, junk, help, question
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:43:23 GMT

When using rn, I get tired of scrolling through hundreds of subjects of articles
I am not interested in reading. When I finally get to one that I read, I have to
go through the subjects I have already looked at to get back to where I was.

I am wondering if there is a nice easy way to junk all the articles before the
one I am currently on, hopefully redirecting the output so I dont have to wait
for a hundred lines of "article xxxxx junked." 

Or something that suddenly occurs, is there a way to only list subjects from the
current article forward?

Thanks, 
Chris Davis - cdavis@en.ecn.purdue.edu

 
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403)
Subject: Re: Local tin with tind
Organization: Prospect Electricity
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 23:25:53 GMT

Kevin C. Castner (kevinc@ups.com) wrote:
: I'd like to compile tin (version 1.1 PL 6) to read the news articles from an 
: NFS mounted filesystem, and store the indexes in the .index directory of
: that filesystem.  This would allow us to not enable NNTP on our network.
: 
: I don't see this scenario described in the INSTALL file.  If anyone could
: tell me how to do it, I'd appreciate it.  Or, if anyone could tell me
: why I shouldn't do it that would be great.
: 
: I am running a network of sun sparcs, on 4.1.2.  I don't have NNTP running,
: and haven't the faintest clue as to how to make it run. (which is why I
: don't want to enable NNTP).  If it is really easy, then I would consider it.
: 
I managed to get it working by adding the following to the Makefile

**** start of add ******

# For BSD-derived systems to compile the tind daemon
bsd_tind:
	@echo "Compiling for BSD/Dec/DG/NeXT/Sun..."
	@$(MAKE) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS='$(COPTS) -DBSD -DINDEX_DAEMON -DLIBDIR=\"$(LIBDIR)\" -DSPOOLDIR=\"$(SPOOLDIR)\"' \
			 LIBS="" \
			 EXE=tind linkit
**** end of add *****


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From: bkort@bbn.com (Barry Kort)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Is there a Mac NNTP NewsReader that decodes BinHex?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 21:36:28 GMT
Organization: BBN Labs
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: barry@michael.ai.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.89.19.90
Summary: BinHex Decoder for NewsReader?
Keywords: BinHex

 Is anyone developing a next-generation Macintosh NNTP newsreader that
recognizes and automatically decodes BinHex or uuencoded attachments?

Barry Kort
From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Cancelled articles
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:27:00 GMT
Organization: Draper Laboratory

In article <2AFA26BB.26077@news.service.uci.edu>,
ruman@meroot.eng.uci.edu (ruman) writes:

>   I would like to know if it is possible to read a cancelled article
>without sending a control mesg cancelling the cancel. I read news via
>NNTP. I tried telnet to the NNTP port to retrieve the cancelled
>article, but am unable to get it. ("article number invalid", was the
>the message i believe).

You're probably too late.  Most likely the news server has already
deleted the article from the newsgroup directory.

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From: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (Benjamin Middleton)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: BUG!! xvnews version 2.0.2
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:29:48 GMT
Reply-To: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk
Organization: Noaksie's Bass Plum Control Factor


XVNews2.1 is available if you mail dfc@resumix.portal.com. He kindly sent me
it, and I must say there are some definate improvements. Still no threads
though.

Ben.

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From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Is a 132-column wide display in trn possible?
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:06:59 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

When I view the threaded news menu in a window configured as 132 columns wide
(bsd 4.3), the lines are always truncated at column 80.  This is particularly
annoying in newsgroups like comp.binaries.os2, where postings can have many,
many parts.  It is important, when using the "e" command to extract these
programs, to verify that the parts have been all posted at your site IN ORDER.
Very often the "(part x/n)" message indicator lies past column 80 and can't be
seen.  Sometimes, changing the menu display mode helps via the "L" command,
but not always.

When I read news articles, the threaded tree display is right justified to
column 132, so I know trn is aware that the window is 132 columns wide.

Anybody got a fix for this?
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From: mark3@dcs.gla.ac.uk
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: mail/news filters, defining relevance and categorisation
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:02:13 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
Return-Path: <mark3@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.5

Folks,

I'm working on defining relevance in Information Retrieval, currently
looking at defining filters for news or mail message categories, and would
like to get in contact with others who are also working in these areas. I'd
be pleased to exchange views and information with anyone who's interested. 

Any information about available news or mail filtering systems would be
welcome. Specifically, does anyone know where I can get information about
ISCREEN, Topic and Individual Inc.? Anyone know where Stephen Pollock is
(creator of ISCREEN)?

Thanks, Mark
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From: mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:07:48 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com

In article <1992Nov5.170103.19443@osf.org> rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz) writes:
:What is the point of having headers like this?
:	X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
:I mean really:  is the advertising worth the cost that it inflicts on the
:net?

I suppose it might be good for debugging -- it helps out with email in
certain cases.  I can always tell an improperly-configured xrn from
"NoHost.NoDomain".  :/ 

						...Mike
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From: michael@uni-paderborn.de (Michael Schmidt)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:02:54
Organization: Uni Paderborn, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: pbinfo2.uni-paderborn.de
In-reply-to: rsalz@osf.org's message of 5 Nov 92 17:01:03 GMT

>>>>> About Abolish X-Newsreader headers, Rich Salz said:

Rich> What is the point of having headers like this?  	X-Newsreader:
Rich> TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Funny enough, some days ago, I wished every newsreader would generate
such a header line. We converted to INN (:-) and had to test which of
our newsreaders produces bogus header lines.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: CNTS10@email.mot.com (James K. Morgan)
Subject: NEED LATEST VERSION OF TRUMPET (IS THERE A WINDOWS VERSION?).
Organization: Motorola CSE
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:51:44 GMT

I would like to know if there is a version of trumpet which is compatible 
with windows or if there is another newsreader software that is dos/windows 
compatible.

                          Thanks,

                        		Jim M.
                                 
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From: derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Derek Terveer)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Solaris port for tin?
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:46:22 GMT
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jason Haar (cctr127@csc.canterbury.ac.nz) wrote:
: 
: Has anyone ported tin to Solaris?
: We'll probably be installing Solaris here in the new year, and I'd like to
: see how much work lies ahead of me ;-))

Yes, i was easily able to compile and install tin 1.1pl6 (what i'm
running at this very moment) under Solaris 1.1 (aka 4.1.3).  Or did you
mean Solaris 2.0?

derek
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From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: batch mode readers
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:31:00 GMT
Organization: Draper Laboratory

In article <1dst4qINNgjk@agate.berkeley.edu>,
ucbked@athena (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes:

>which, if any, of the commonly available readers can be used in
>batch mode (command line mode)?

Well, NNMVS can... It ought to; it runs on the original batch operating
system, MVS!

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: ONASCH@irav17.ira.uka.de (Bernd Onasch)
Subject: Re: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Organization: University of Karlsruhe (FRG)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:26:01 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25
X-Testmessage: %SYS-F-HLT, system halted.

In <1992Nov5.170103.19443@osf.org> rsalz@osf.org writes:

# What is the point of having headers like this?
# 	X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
# I mean really:  is the advertising worth the cost that it inflicts on the
# net?

It's NOT worth that cost (this discussion is it not worth either).
(BTW: The references cost much more - remove them, too? :-)

# Authors:  please change your software to stop doing this.

No, why ? It's allowed in the RFC's and there are much more useless transferred
bytes on UseNet...

Hint: Stop doing it always, e.g. by configuration, is worth to be discussed -
but that wish you mentioned is not worth to be discussed seriously, sorry.

Or do you remove all the bytes behind the message numbers because they are
in fact useless? :-))))

*FLAME ON*
When starts INN to become RFC conform ? (e.g. no more MODE READER ;-)
*FLAME OFF*

Smiling,

Bernd Onasch, Informatik Rechnerabteilung [IRA], University of Karlsruhe [FRG]
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From: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: BUG!! xvnews version 2.0.2
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:32:12 GMT
Reply-To: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

The latest version of xvnews available on export is 2.0 patch level 2.
Anyone know who's maintaining this program now?

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos)
Subject: Re: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Originator: luisg@lugano
Organization: Fujitsu NTS
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:37:17 GMT


In article <1992Nov5.170103.19443@osf.org>, rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz) writes:
|> What is the point of having headers like this?
|> 	X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
|> I mean really:  is the advertising worth the cost that it inflicts on the
|> net?
|> 
|> Authors:  please change your software to stop doing this.
|> 	/r$

Usually these type of headers can be inhibited in situ using the
configuration files. The headers are very useful for readers after a number
of months have elapsed. Then the reader can request that a more modern 
version of the news reader be installed with hopefully more capabilities.
Also installers can keep track of which version they have built especially
after a number of versions are released and one wishes to patch or fully
build a new version. Patching comes usually directed to a particular version, 
so knowing which version one has is crucial.

I do not think this header is present for advertising purposes in mind.

luis
luig@hadar.fai.com

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:01:03 GMT

What is the point of having headers like this?
	X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
I mean really:  is the advertising worth the cost that it inflicts on the
net?

Authors:  please change your software to stop doing this.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403)
Subject: Global usage of .index with tin
Organization: Prospect Electricity
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 03:09:31 GMT

Assuming one has tind set up to create one '.index' directory
on each machine, how do you get the default '.index' directory
to be the global one for all users without having them type:
tin -I /usr/spool/news/.index

?????????

Thanks
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: ram@artecon.sceard.com (Ramesh S. Rao)
Subject: *Tin under X?*
Organization: Artecon, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:41:38 GMT


 Is there an X version of tin available? 
 (Someone I know uses tin in an x-window and 
 claims tin runs under X).
 I mean with neat buttons like in xvnews?

 Please reply to ram@artecon.sceard.com.

 Thanx.



				*ramesh*
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: leisner@wrc.xerox.com ( Marty Leisner)
Subject: Index files with tin
Reply-To: leisner.henr801c@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:14:57 GMT


I have a configuration where a number of people read news of an NNTP site elsewhere.

From what I understand, an index file can be made on the server (which we can't do), or an
index file can be made in everyones account...

Whe I want to do is make one global index file on the remote lan...if necessary I'll link
together all the .index directories...

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From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: BUG!! xvnews version 2.0.2
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:24:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxJ5CL.5zD
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware

Status so far...



	IF xvnews is started from OpenWindows AND olwm/openwin DOES

	NOT HAVE A RUNNING PARENT SHELL, then the "From" address on a new

	posting CAN be assigned a user-name corresponding to someone else

	who's running another copy of xvnews on the same system.


==========


Yes, I realize this is a weird bug, but it happens.  I'm in the process
of hunting down the problem right now...  I'll post more later when I
have more useful information.


==========


-Randy Zagar


p.s.	Anybody know where there's a more recent version than 2.0.2 ?


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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Subject: Re: Compressed mail...
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:04:42 GMT

kbeal@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Ken Beal) writes:
: 
: 	Recently (a day or two ago?) someone posted saying they were
: using ZOOed mail (or some other form of compression, I can't remember
: which).  Is this widely used?  It sounds like a GREAT idea.  I'd like
: more information, if possible; our mail expires daily, and it would
: be nice to have it last 2 or 3 days; with compression, I'm sure we'd
: have the disk space (if not the managerial okay 1/2 :).
: 
I have to assume you meant news when you said mail (hey, I'm picky).
I'm working on it.  I have it running, but there is a bug somewhere
I'm trying to find.  Sometimes it won't fully see the archived
articles, other times it does.  I think it has to do with popen/close.

Only one person responded to my suggestion and status, so I don't
think it's widely used.  I'm surprised that more people aren't
interested.  I'm getting great compression (30-40%, not including
elimination of end-of-block deadspace) at a reasonable speed.
I never use more than 32K inodes, and after the compression run, have
40K - 42K left over.  That is with 3200 newsgroups, 2 weeks of
articles, and all cross-posted articles left in the clear (since 2+
copies at -40% is greater than one copy at 100%).  I'm using zoo right
now, but zip/unzip is a candidate.

I would venture to say that I'm the only one on Internet running a
compressed news database with full nntp connectivity and support.
(That should flush any others out if they are there... ;-) )

If anyone wants to help me debug, I'll post/mail the patches,
otherwise stay tuned and I'll send them eventually.

I'm testing/modifying: inn/nnrpd 1.2, tin pl5 (where are the patches
for pl6????) (actually no changes here), tind (probably will modify
since it won't go through nntp and it's faster to do directly anyway).
I have expiring/compressing working well, although more locking should
be added.

sdw
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From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Date: 7 Nov 1992 16:14:13 GMT
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
NNTP-Posting-Host: skybridge.scl.cwru.edu

Others said
# I suppose it might be good for debugging -- it helps out with email in
# certain cases.  I can always tell an improperly-configured xrn from
# "NoHost.NoDomain".  :/ 

But that's not required....
I can always tell it's an xrn site.
The default has no line length limit so that I just see the first 80 charac

THAT'S how to tell it's xrn......
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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Abolish X-Newsreader headers
Summary: X-News* helps find bugs, and costs little
Keywords: bugs newsreaders cost
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:37:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: contessa.mwm.2ji3
Distribution: world
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52

In <1992Nov5.170103.19443@osf.org>, rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz) wrote:
> What is the point of having headers like this?

To help the author figure out which version a bogus posting came from,
or whether a person complaining about some bug has the latest version.
Some authors might be using it to track the spread of their
newsreader.

> 	X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
> I mean really:  is the advertising worth the cost that it inflicts on the
> net?

If it were just for advertising, you might be right. It isn't, though.
Just because it's useless to you doesn't mean it's useless to
everybody.

> Authors:  please change your software to stop doing this.

Will you fix INN so it doesn't add the (totally useless to me) Lines:
header?

BTW, Yarn allows posters to delete the line if they want to.

	<mike
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