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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 08:17:58 GMT


While oil is cheap....we should be making Ethanol production more feasable, which has the
following benefits:

1> supports the farmers
2> cleaner burning
3> made here in the USA, or wherever you are & can build a still
4> $$ NOT going to the dictator-of-the-month in whichever Arab country we are currently
   fighting 
5> renewable resource (corn, etc)
6> burns cooler, longer engine life.

etc etc etc.

Until we decide to put the effort into this type of research, we'll be doomed to burning
sludge..er...petroleum in our vehicles.
--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com
From: charlesv@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Charles Van Duren)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: LA on the Tundra
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:45:04 GMT

clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:

#In article <1992Aug10.035131.4276@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:

#>Northern land, i.e., around the arctic circle and Alaska in general
#>is basically very few people and lots of cold cold tundra.

#>So here is the plan...build those giant green houses like that one
#>in Arizona.....and create an inside atmosphere...climate if you will
#>that exactly duplicates a beach in Southern California.

It's done, and it's called the Waterpark at the West Edmonton Mall :-)

CvD
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Keywords: solar energy
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:50:08 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Aug17.171835.12758@news.duc.auburn.edu> bailebn@mail.auburn.edu (Bliss Bailey) writes:
>>Remember, we're talking about generating terawatts of energy!

>Gee, that's funny... The solar system I spec'ed out for my home will fit
>neatly in a space smaller than my house.  The option I have considered is
>mounting it on my roof, so that it takes up no extra space, and causes no
>more "environmental damage".  


>I realize that there is no perfect alternative for every climate and situation,
>but to discount one set of ideas (solar and wind) just because another 
>idea (wood-burning) hasn't worked out seems counter-productive.  I would be 
>willing to bet that with a concentrated effort by our government and industry,
>we could make all three work out in the long run.
 but lest we forget. the need mostly is not rural areas. the need is in
cities. what is the proportion of roof to volume on you house?
please compare that to the average building in a city.
what is the occupancy of youe house?
please see question above.

please think. there may be more to consider than what has been discussed 
in this thread so far.

thank you.

bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
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From: ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez)
Subject: L.A. Tundra
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 03:52:56 GMT

Dan Loewus writes "why not scrape off LA and build an environment dome there."

I would suggest instead that if by some happy miracle L.A. WERE scraped
off the face of the planet, we wouldn't need to build an environment dome.
Nature would clean up the mess in a few years.
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Chickens, chickens, and more chickens
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:38:43 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1614@sousa.ltn.dec.com> paradis@sousa.enet.dec.com (Jim Paradis) writes:

[stuff deleted]
>Hmmm... are they simply burning the chicken droppings, or are they
>maybe using them to feed a methane generator and burning the *gas*?
>The latter could be done using off-the-shelf components...
probably not cheeply, as high octane s*t has a tendancy to disentegrate
most materials. so you almost need to use ss on the front end and in 
the digester. check your local auction for tanks and pumbing

>Along the same lines:  what would be the issues involved in building
>a *residential* methane generator in the U.S.?  Aside from the
>technical issues, what are the typical regulatory issues?  Who
>typically has to sign off on these things?
well if you live in or near a bedroom comunity, see your neighbors.
up the road a bit the newbies are trying to shut down a farm due to
the odor ruining the good old country air |-< in the town near me they have
already shut down the cenex grain grinding operation (to dusty) [oh you 
have animals that use it for feed? tsk tsk tsk to bad] oh its so dark
out here, darling please call rural electric and have them put ina 5gazillion
power yard light.
bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Myxomatosis
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:19:08 GMT
Distribution: na, usa
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group


I grew up in Eugene Ore, and I never heard of it until I moved to Sweden.
Don't know if it isn't found in Ore,  but it isn't limited by cold weather!

Say,  is Portland still the first largest and second best city in Oregon ???

(mandatory grin for the irony impared)
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From: bhushan@fmiapd.com (Bhushan Kerur)
Subject: TEST
Organization: Fujitsu Microelectroics Inc
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:39:42 GMT

TEST TEST TEST
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From: scum@pcthree.com (Steve Monroe)
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: PC Three
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:20:06 GMT

finneyk@seanews.akita.com (Ken Finney) writes:

>I would hazard a guess that the Kuwait oil fires put A LOT more
>unburned hydrocarbons in the air than all the weedeaters ever will.

Ah, more reality.  But I'm sure that we must give up our weedeaters
simply because the Kuwait fires have used up the weedeaters 'quota'...

-- 
Steven C. Monroe            VOICE:(703)406-2082                PC Three, Inc.
scum@pcthree.com             FAX:(703)406-2078                  P.O. Box 1644
                                                              Herndon, VA 22070
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From: ness@tc.fluke.COM (Jerry Ness)
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:28:23 GMT

Anybody seen an electric weed eater I can put a 10 inch saw blade on??

Is my math screwed up or what??
My Weed Wacker burns maybe 3/4 of a gallon of gas in 2 hours.
A car getting 20mpg burns 150 gallons of gas to go 3000 miles.
How can 3/4 of a gallon polute more than 150 gallons??
God help me if I get in an accident!! All those polutants are probably
being stored under my car and could be released all at once!!

Jerry
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From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:49:02 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <MS-C.714009870.1103527590.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:

>Remember, we're talking about generating terawatts of energy!
thank you.

bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
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From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na, usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:08:46 GMT

In <HAGERMAN.92Aug10180500@rx7.ece.cmu.edu> hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman) writes:

>In article <1992Aug10.191049.27104@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>What I heard on NPR was that the same amount of Ozone is produced.

>I'm curious about the "big land" argument; for what is a small engine
>implement such as a weed eater used on a big land area where electric
>power is a problem?
do you mean how much of a problen is it to drag a few miles of cable around?
please clarify if this is not what you were referring to.
bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
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From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Subject: Bill's Many Messages
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 23:16:46 GMT


Bill Pociengel:  You certainly are making your presence felt on this
bbs!
I could not agree more with your proposal of desalinization plants
here in California.
More generally, may I ask:  are there any environmental problems which
you consider urgent enough to address as a rural resident?

In the area of clean or renewable energy on a farm situation or rural
area...do you think this is worthy of research and new inventions?

I think you misinterpret my intent:  I am raising questions in environ-
mental areas which are often discussed in the media (and scientific
journals, etc.).
I certainly do not have all the solutions, nor nearly all the data,
although I wish I had more time to do the reading.

On a more light hearted note: do you think there is any real possibility
that multitudes will want to settle in your "backyard" (the cold
north midwest)?
are educated and move from the cities to a better life, will find new
ways of designing the small farm to be more in harmony with nature.
-- 
            Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
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From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 00:28:14 GMT


Your points are well taken and informative about early uses of windpower
and then the government financing boondoggles in the late 70's and 80's
of wind systems.
However....is that the important point to make about clean energy today?
Is wind power beyond our technology to be useful or practical?
I hardly think so although I am not a scientist nor engineer.
It seem simply that the planet, the environment dictates that we make
a concerted effort now....get moving in these directions.
There are exceptionally windy areas in certain parts of the North
American continent...often they are remote areas with few living
there.
There is much available energy...which would be superior to damming up
another eco system for hydro power, and certainly superior to another
boondoggle nuclear reactor.
-- 
            Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
From: lcnet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Rabbits
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:41:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:Jul31.200820.61522@yuma.acns.col:-2102348085:peg:345900004:000:376
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!lcnet    Aug 17 16:41:00 1992


Does anyone have any information on the control of plague rabbits.
They are causing havoc in areas of Australia where they are
contributing to massive land degradation  problems. Any new or
alternative control techniques being used in other parts of the
world may be very helpful in designing for new techniques here.

Thanks,

Dan Hamilton

LandcareNet Facilitator (Pegasus)
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From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:54:50 GMT

In <1992Aug19.131111.22269@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:


>Yeah, I'd really ENJOY having to uncoil/coil a two mile 
>extension cord..
no. no. no. no. no.
you buy a honda generator silly :-)

bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:06:47 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Aug10.225320.29510@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:


>It doesn't take much of that blue-gray smoke coming from chainsaw or
>weedeater to equal a heck of a lot of hydrocarbons and other pollutants.
bzzzt. common misconception. you don't need to see it; for pollution
to exist, be bad for you. can we see sulfer dioxide? hydrogen sulfide?

>I am trying to locate the EPA report itself...at this point I only have
>a report of the report.
please do.
bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
From: monson@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Tom Monson)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:19:06 GMT
Subject: Used motoroil furnace?
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: misc.rural

Does anybody know of a proven design for a heater/furnace that burns used motor
oil?
                                     Thanks,      TC Monson
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From: donb@crash.cts.com (Donald Bowen)
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:02:21 GMT

	Wind energy, low head hydro, biomas, are all good ideas that are not
getting any support in the current government.  Unless it comes from coal, oil
or nuks, it is "fringe".  Now oil is cheap and abundant, but not forever.
We should be investing some of this cheap oil in the future.  While oil is
cheap we should be looking into and building wind plants,  Most of the units
covering the hills of Southern California were build in Finland or New Zeland.
While oil is cheap we should be developing small scale biomas systems with
several inputs and outputs.  While oil is cheap we should be teaching consumers
how to consume a whole lot less.  While oil is cheap we should be finding ways
to use less of the oil and ways to dump less of the waste products of cheap oil
use in our air and water.

	If we do not do those things now, at some time in the future oil will
not be so cheap and we will no longer have the resources to develope clean
low cost substitutes for oil and we will no longer have the resources to clean
the cat box that will be our home.

	It is much like the current national debt.  It was squandered in the
military build-up and the S&L mess.  There is little left to improve the 
conditions of a failing economy.

	DonB
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Myxomatosis
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:41:23 GMT
Distribution: na, usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

Back in my small hometown in the '60's, myxomytosis came
through and killed all the squirrels and rabbits.  I found
something like a dozen dead squirrel bodies in the woods just
across the street from our house, and dead rabbits all over
the grassy areas.  I've never seen anything so devastating.  I
hear it was a big problem in England in the late '50's.  

I haven't heard of it coming through an area for about 25
years, out here on the west coast, though.

--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

I've worn high-heeled pointed-toed fashionable shoes for the past 
twenty years, and you ask me about if *getting tattooed* hurt?!
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:31:11 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <venable.112@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu> venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable) writes:

>	If you mix oil with the methanol, you still get all the unburned 
>hydrocarbons.
so then we raise the combustion temperature and increase effeciancy.
so some one please point out the problem that this will raise.
and if we can't do that then this thread has no right to live.
there is a problem,  i now it and so should you.
so say it
bill pociengel
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From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Subject: New Alchemy (re: LA on Tundra)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 03:10:05 GMT


Yes Dan Loewus.   The New Alchemy Institute is very much alive and well.
I receive their publications.
I regret I have not yet made a journey out there.
All those basic projects you have mentioned, have been pursued to the present.
Particularly, since heavy funding has been granted for certain townships
which are having emergency sewage problems...is their greenhouse sewage
treatment system which is basic BIOSPHERE idea but centered around converting
sewage via ecosystem including variety of algaes and plants and fish as well.
There are several such projects going on the eastern seaboard.

Unfortunately...and I get a little emtoi(emotionally...I cannot always back-
space to correct on this machine for some reason)....worked up on this
subject...such solutions are drastically needed today...simply applying
common sense to basic research mostly in the field of biology.
I wish life were that simple.
Also I read every issue of the Appropriate Technology Journal from England
and relentlessly wish there were more advancement here in the U.S. in
these same areas.
The BIOSPHERE in Oracle, Arizona is the same concept...but obv on a much
grander scale....I ignore the cult and critical press gossip about it.
The point is it's a stupendous research module for a variety of reasons.
NASA should have been building these things years ago for space station
and moon colonization research.
Oh well....it may yet happen on a grander scale.
-- 
            Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Used motoroil furnace?
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:36:19 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Aug21.093335.4785@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:

>Tom Monson (monson@hpsad.sad.hp.com) wrote:
>: Does anybody know of a proven design for a heater/furnace that burns used motor
>: oil?
>:                                      Thanks,      TC Monson

>Alternately, is it safe/advisable to dump my used motor oil into my fuel-oil
>tank for my furnace?  The furnace burns deisel fuel (more or less), would a
>bit of motor oil (synthetic) hurt it?  Enquiring minds want to know <tm>.
well one place i lived had an oil fired boiler. we used to mix the used oil
with the fuel (filtered used oil that is) never had problems, but we did
need to readjust the air/fuel mixture.
bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: MTD Chipper/shredder?
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:06:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: mr.1992Aug19.110622.21910
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

On the topic of chipper/shredders,

I don't like the idea of buying yet ANOTHER engine.  Is there anyone who
sells a unit which can run off my tractor's PTO (either belt or spline)?

(it's an Allis Chalmers 'C', BTW)

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com
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From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Subject: Re: LA on the Tundra
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:13:19 GMT


I am (somewhat regrettably) the one who originated the "LA on the Tundra"
discussion.   However it has elicited some noteworthy responses, at
least in my view...current information about wind power, the true
value of the tundra (not to be disturbed if at all possible), and
the discussion of typical Alaskan architecture.
I have never been to Alaska, but the p;ictures I've seen show most
often very simple nondescript buildings.  I know building is expensive
but I was hoping that creative discussions in these areas might actually
yield new and better solutions.

Funny you should mention the Edmonton Mall.  That is Edmonton, Alberta
in Canada of course.  I have been there....impressive but.....
I was hoping for a few more vegetation growing...especially food
crops...on the other hand the idea of a Mall, a Giant Mall.....
perhaps that sort of atmosphere is more psychologically comforting
to all those born to shop, etc....It could look like a mall but
actually be a Biosphere.
-- 
            Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
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From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Re: Myxomatosis
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:18:20 CDT

 john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) writes:

|According to the _Official_Guide_to_Raising_Better_Rabbits_, American Rabbit
|Breeders Association, Inc. 1976, "[myxomatosis] is found only along the West
|Coast, Mexico, and in South America."
|
|From this, it sounds like the virus likes warm weather and the author has
|assumed that West Coast == California.
|
|We are in the Portland, Oregon, area and are thinking of raising rabbits.
|
|Is myxomatosis a threat this far north?
|
|-- 
|John Opalko
|
|john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@wizvax.methuen.ma.us

I had heard that if you can keep wild rabbits away that should help.

---
--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
___________________________________________________________________
       member--Minnesotans for Global Warming.
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Earning a living in the country
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:23:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Aug17.035841.4960@math.ucla.edu> ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:

>Those of you who have done it, how do you DO it????
telephone, computer, modem, software, children, spouse.
local merchants, barter, go without (what go without something! oh my god 8-O)
invent, manufacture, weld, fix not toss, buy used, repair, reuse, recycle,
prudent purchasing.
chickens, fish, deer, cows, pigs, garden ~1 acre, fruit trees (just started
about 3 years ago).

oh and it do help a BIG bunch when the sw skills are in demand (this year
they are and i am in fat city. the past 3 they wern't and i suffered. 
cash wise that is)

bill pociengel
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From: earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James K Earp)
Subject: Re: Alaskan Biosphere
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:34:02 GMT

>
>p.s. why does california never consider using desalination plants to
>generate its fresh water supply??
>--

Same reason they won't build that Great Lakes pipline, Bill.  By all
estimates, they couldn't get the thing built before the Big One will
wipe the state off the map anyway.  Not cost-efficient, because they
would never get a chance to bill anybody for the service!

On the other hand, Nevada might consider this as soon as they have
some shoreline to build it on!
From: hjkim@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: INFO WANTED:REPOST WITH EMAIL CORRECTION;$200.30 FOR PRINTER HEAD!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:15:13 GMT

PLASE HELP TO FIND OUT PRINTER HEADER REBUILDER.

THIS IS REPOST WITH EMAIL CORRECTION FROM DIFFERENT MACHINE.
OLD ONE HAS A WRONG EMAIL.

--- REPOST ----

Two weeks ago my EPSON LQ 510 printer head lost one of the 24 pin.
I disassemble the head and found one pin was broken.
I called the nearest EPSON DELALER in south east USA and asked a replacement
for a pin but they said they could not sell only one pin but only
whole head and the cost was INCREDIBLELY $200.30- only just a head.
(Remember that EPSON LQ 570 costs around $250.00 by mail in USA)
Can you believe it? really rediculous!!.

If anyone can give me any phone number of EPSON AFTER SERVICE CENTER located
in Japan OR printer head rebuilder in USA, plase send emil to me.


I need only ONE HEAD PIN OF EPSON LQ 510 PRINTER for replacement.

Thank you. 
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From: ailawadi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sameer Ailawadi)
Subject: Re: WORK EXCHANGE HOUSING POSITION WANTED
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:53:58 GMT

			LIVE-IN WORK-EXCHANGE WANTED

I am a single male graduate student at Northwestern University, and am looking
for a position where I would get room and/or board in exchange for household
work. What I CAN DO:

	COOK
	CLEAN
	YARDWORK
	GARDENING
	BABYSIT
	TAKE CARE OF ELDERLY
	TUTOR FRENCH, MATH, PHYSICS, FINANCE, ECONOMICS
	and OTHER MISC. WORK

What I DON'T DO:

	SMOKE
	PLAY LOUD MUSIC, etc.

I have had prior experience in the type of work listed above.

Ideally I would like to begin asap since I do not have a place to leave at
present; however, dates can be flexible.

Would appreciate a reply by e-mail. If e-mail is not possible, you could
call me at (708)491-2680 during days and maybe evenings (ask for Sameer).

Waiting eagerly for your responses,

Sameer Ailawadi




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