From: oestline@maui.qualcomm.com (Ofer Estline)
Subject: Re: "you never listen to my advice - READ THIS FOLKS"
Summary:  The other side of the story == fairness
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:27:03 GMT

Dear r.m.g family:

I'd like to apologize for this disagreement I had with Steve spilling over
into the net.  It should not have been done in this manner.  But I have to
take a moment,  now that Steve publically attacked me.
I have to straighten this out and pass along some thoughts to anyone who
cares to hear.  This concerns everyone who read Steve's orginal post.
You DO want to read this.


Everyone who has known me on the net (thru trades, conversation, etc.)
will not hestitate to call me fair or credible (beth - your tapes are done :-) 
and I think are surprised to hear I would have been as unreasonable as Steve claims, especially to a point of being called obnoxious, or motherf&*%r.  This 
demonstrates poor sportsmanship on Steve's part.  

Steve deliberately distorted the facts.  Here they are.  And Steve, if you
have any problems with what I write, I encourage you to allow me to post
every bit of email exchanged between us (with no comments, just the mail) 
and let others decide.  AND PLEASE DON'T IGNORE THIS ENCOURAGEMENT, unless you 
don't want everyone to see what a big jerk is hiding under the "I provide the 
seed, so you matter not!" attitude you showed me.

After telling Steve I'd like to run analog tree off his 12.12 and 12.13
seed if he supplies me with the 4 analog tapes (and I never once, even remotely
"told" him what to do), he responded by telling me to "FUCK OFF," and that
he feels like telling all his friends "NEVER TO TRADE WITH ME AGAIN," and
sealed his unkind reponse by calling me a "GREEDY LITTLE BASTARD."
The rest is history.  

I feel this was unprovoked and unfair.  I had that holidays spirit running
through my veins drive me to try and resolve this with Steve
with personal email, so I reponded with a semi-friendly response giving
him a chance to cool off (again, I'd be more than glad to post this with 
Steve's permission), but he continued to assault me verbally.  I sent him
email, telling him not to repond to me unless he had something
friendly or constructive to say.  But HE wrote me back, threatening ME that 
if I write him again, I'll be sorry.  What maturity.
So I wrote him back one last time, signing off something like this:

I give up!
Have a good show tonight,
--Ofer

Then I found his blasphemous post on r.m.gdead, along with responses 
patting Steve on the back.

My main point here is not only to defend my honor.  It is to inform all of you
who think Steve an "Untouchable" because of his seed offers that
he is a mere mortal, and he makes mistakes.  Sometimes ugly mistakes.
So please - before any of Steve's devoted desciples back up Steve's unkind
posts - be sure to demand both sides of the story !!!
You may be surprised as to what you see.

And Steve - I'm sorry to see that after all my attempts to heal the rift 
between us you have dealt me nothing but dirt-low blows.  

Peace to all (you too Steve Jeck), and happy holidays :-) :-)
--Ofer
!(Fade Away)
			     
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