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From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Cheap(inexepnsive) X-terminals
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:35:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

Date: 22 Dec 92 16:03:02 GMT
Message-Id: <105500@bu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


My reasearch group is looking to buy one or two X-terminals.
I would appriciate e-mail with recommendations, based on
price and performance. We have had NCD suggested to us,
if people have experiance using their equipment with an 
SGI IRIS in particular even better. If possible please
include manufacturer's 800 number.


thanks in advance,

-sjm


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From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: tvtwm - cannot link
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:36:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Universita' di Perugia

Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:48:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec30.124846.178707@ipgaix.unipg.it>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am trying to compile tvtwm on a SPARCstation with Solaris 1.0.1.
I am using the X files in the openwin distribution (should be X 11.4).

The compilation is done right but when I link I get the following undefined
symbols:
_pow
_floor
_get_wmShellWidgetClass
_get_applicationSHellWidgetClass
__XtInherit
_XtToolkitInitialize

The libraries specified in the Imakefile are:
	-lXmu -lXext -lX11

to these I have added:
	-lXt

It seems I still have to add something. Any hints?

Thamk you.

Luca Priorelli
From: dror@netcom.com (Oz Dror)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xconsole client cannot open console..
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:34:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:47:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1993Jan3.014751.15692@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have The same problem with Xfree86 1.1 running on ODT 1.1

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From: loss@enews.nrl.navy.mil (Brian Loss)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Scripting Program
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:58:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: U.S. Naval Research Lab, Washington, D.C.

Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:39:50 GMT
Message-Id: <C0356F.DzM@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for source code for a program that can monitor mouse and key
events and record them in a file for later playback.  Does anyone know of such aprogram for X-based Unix systems?  I know there are commercial packages that
can do this on PC's, Mac's, etc.  Portability does not really matter to me, but
I am using a Silicon Graphics workstation, so I think I am more likely to find
something written in X than something specific for SGI.  I would appreciate any
hints that anyone has.  Thanks.


Brian Loss
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From: graeme@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Graeme Gill)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: new FAQ? (programming) masking Pixmaps *efficiently*
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:11:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia

Date: 21 Dec 92 03:45:12 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec21.034512.18081@labtam.labtam.oz.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Dec18.012904.15093@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.152852.2528@miki.pictel.com>, oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones) writes:
> > In article <1992Dec11.180230.10091@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> sns@bondi.jpl.nasa.gov (Sam Southard) writes:
> 
> >> The server in question is probably doing the common thing and
> >> converting clip-masks to rectangle lists.
> 
> Yes...but the choice of this implementation means that clip-masks that
> don't decompose nicely into rectangles will be expensive to set and
> somewhat expensive to use.
> 
> This implementation of clipping made sense in R3, before SHAPE, when
> most clipping regions were the union of a few rectangles, though even
> then, using it for client-specified GC clip masks (which are reasonably
> likely to be complex) strikes me as at least questionable, requiring
> further examination and thought.

	The reason anything more sophisticated has been put in the "too hard"
basket (I guess) is that you basically would have to go around and duplicate
every piece of rendering code in the X server. You then have to add an
arbitrary bit clipping mask to one half of the duplicated code on top of
everything else you have to do to get pixels on the screen (reading the
destination, doing the logical op, masking with the plane mask, clipping
to the clip rectangle). There is no incentive for anyone to do this while
very few applications make use of an arbitrary bit mask. Application writers
will tend to avoid using arbitrary clipping masks because they know they will
be slow.

	Graeme Gill
From: togata@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Thomas V. Ogata)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help!! Compiling X11R5...
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:33:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 21:47:04 GMT
Message-Id: <1993Jan2.214704.1855@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi,

In brief:
   Need help from anyone who has successfully compiled X11R5 on a DECstation
   5000/200 running ultrix 4.3 (using gcc 2.3.2).

In detail:
   I'm trying to compile X11R5 under ultrix 4.3 on a DECstation 5000/200 using
   gcc 2.3.2.  Everything compiles OK but I have problems when trying to run the
   server.  When I start up xdm (and Xdec) the login window's fonts are
   backward.  When I log in, everything is still backwards (fonts, windows,
   etc.) but twm does start.  When I move a window, the outline is sideways
   and moves opposite directions from the mouse movements (I can't see the
   mouse but it is there).

   If I can get someone's config files that would help also.

   Any help would be appreciated.  Please e-mail and I will post and get
   it in the ultrix-FAQ if needed.

Thanks in advance,
Tom Ogata
togata@lmsc.lockheed.com
From: krishnan@pms240.pms.ford.com (Hare Krishnan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Screen Saver time ....
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:50:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ford Motor Company

Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:15:30 GMT
Message-Id: <1h4n2iINNaou@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am posting this on behalf of my friend. Please send him email as he does not
have access to News. His Email address is : ssm@pms094.pms.ford.com.

Thanks in advance.
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From ssm@pms094.pms.ford.com Thu Dec 17 16:48:52 1992
From: ssm@pms094.pms.ford.com (subramanian sundaramurthy)
To: krishnan@pms030.pms.ford.com
Subject: Re: XScreenSaver timer

How can the balance time before the screen-saver is activated, be queried?

The utility xset allows a user to set the number of seconds of keyboard/pointer
inactivity before the screen is 'blanked-out'. I need to query the balance time
of this timer since last activity. How can I query this value?

Thank you
From: iscooibc@nuscc.nus.sg (Beng Chin)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: PICASSO screen dump
Date: 26 Dec 92 09:08:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: National University of Singapore

Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:53:54 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec26.045354.13788@nuscc.nus.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hi there,
	I am currently writing my final year report and
need a screen dump(postscript format) of PICASSO and
some of the examples generated.

	Would deeply appreciated any speedy reply.

chooging@iscs.nus.sg
From: ori@marvin.technion.ac.il (Ori Degani)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XGetRGBColormap
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:07:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Heart of Gold Institute

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:21:55 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec31.022155.8911@discus.technion.ac.il>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Yo, 
  My application needs to display real pictures (digitized), so I'm
using XGetRGBColormaps to get the best colormap for the system.  The
problem is that it giving me an error message for something I copied
from the "Xlib Programming Manual X11R4":

Page 225: /XGetRGB/
if (XGetRGBColoraps (dpy, win, &best_map_info, &no_of_cmaps,
XA_RGB_BEST_MAP) == 0) {
	fprintf (stderr, "Error:\n");
	exit(1);
}

Well the error it produces is (I'm using gcc if thats any help)
	makeImage.c:97: warning: passing arg 3 of `XGetRGBColormaps' from incompatible pointer type

arg 3 is best_map_info, which is declared as:
(same as page 224)
XStandardColormap best_map_info;

So what's the problem?  Am I wrong?  Is the book wrong?  (Neither?)

Ori
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From: fmn@nevada.edu (FRANK NEEDHAM)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Mouse proble instead?(was: xterm and xinitrc)
Date: 28 Dec 92 01:49:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services

Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:08:31 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec27.220831.3358@nevada.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix

In article <1992Dec27.033019.29918@nevada.edu> fmn@nevada.edu (FRANK NEEDHAM) writes:

>only thing that is put down is the xclock icon and the wire frame of a window.
>After this, the only thing I can do is kill the server. No input is accepted
>from the mouse or keyboard.
>
>I've looked at the faq and other readmes also. From what I know (very little,
>obviously), everything proceeds smoothly until the end of .xinitrc is reached
>and then the server won't talk to the xterm window. 
>
>If this is what is happening, could someone point me the way out of this, or
>give me some other ideas about what is happening?
>
ok, thanks once more the helpfull advice. After examining the responces of my
last post, it seems this may be a mouse problem.

1) This is a B29-Mouse from Taiwan and some of the specs are as follows:
    1200 Baud
    2/3 button mode selection
    Microsoft and PC mouse compatible
2) Even after considerable experimenting with the different mouse settings in
   Xconfig, the server (Xfree86 1.0YA/SLS.98pl5) won't take respond to the
   mouse. The same things, i.e., xclock and then the bash icon and the xterm
   frame. When the frame happens, the server stops.
3) My mouse is on ttys2, modem on ttys1 as stated in Xconfig.

Has anyone out there had any similar experiences with this mouse or know of the
fix for this problem? (Maybe it would be a lot less headache to buy a mouse
named in Xconfig).

thanks,
-frank
From: erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Ansi Xterm
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:53:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 18:56:53 GMT
Message-Id: <tsr7qt0@zola.esd.sgi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


In article <1992Dec21.170650.17600@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu writes:
> In any case, yes, you're right.  xterm doesn't do color.

xterm as distributed by MIT doesn't do color.   There is a version
(whose name escapes me) on export.lcs.mit.edu which does ANSI color.

-- Erik
From: egf-bbs!mike@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (System Operator)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 under SunOS v3.5 help wanted
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:11:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: EGF, MN Public Access Unix

Date: 26 Dec 92 08:20:08 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec26.082008.4263@egf-bbs.uucp>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

After spending a week downloading 30M of compressed source at 2400bps I
finally have the 'mit' directory.

I read through the release notes, edited site.def and sun.cf to what looks
good and did a "make World".  Starts out OK but dies on line 310 of 
.lib/Xau's Makefile.

I've been playing here for about an hour and I get the distinct feeling I'm
in over my head.  Anyone care to lend a hand?  I can get more specific but
I figured I'd do it in E-mail.

Thanks,

Mike
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From: taylor@foraker.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eric Taylor)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XGetImage
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:56:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 2 Jan 93 18:04:14 GMT
Message-Id: <7390@tivoli.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Dec31.060621.11911@discus.technion.ac.il>, ori@marvin.technion.ac.il (Ori Degani) writes:
|> Ok, I'm want to create an XImage from a datafile (an SGI RGB file at this
|> moment).  
|> I wasn't sure how much space to allocate for XCreateImage's *data,
|> so I use XGetImage.
|> I open a DrawingAreaWidget, I set it's width, and
|> height to the original image's w & h, using XtVaSetValues.  
|> Then I do XGetImage from that widget's window, so I can have the XImage
|> struct.  But I get this error message:
|> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
|>   Major opcode of failed request:  73 (X_GetImage)
|>   Serial number of failed request:  36
|>   Current serial number in output stream:  36
|> 
|> I looked in the FAQ, where it says that BadMatch might mean the window
|> is out of the screen, but it's not.  The WM lets me put the window somewhere
|> and then it spits the error msg out.
|> 
|> What am I doing wrong?

What parameter are you specifying for "format".
You should use ZPixmap.

What plane mask are you specifying?
AllPlanes should be used.
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Can I run clients on REMOTE machines?
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:50:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: 22 Dec 92 18:35:31 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec22.183531.17422@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Dec19.125651.26503@netcom.com>, yonder@netcom.com (Christopher Russell) writes:

> My problem is I want to run clients on machine B and have the display
> be machine A.  Unfortunately I cannot directly TELNET or RLOGIN
> directly between A&B (change from original post), I have to go thru
> machine C.

> A prompt: telnet B    <doesn`t work -- "cannot find">

Does it work if you give B's address instead of its name?  Try using
numeric addresses for telnet and X display names; that may work.  If
so, it's just a problem with name->address resolution, so go yell at
your local administrators about it.

If not...

> Somehow I need to get machine C to "pass-thru" tranparently the X
> traffic between the client and the server.  Is this possible[?]

Of course.

> I cannot just "setenv DISPLAY <A's IP address`>:0.0" while logged
> into machine B, cuz I`ll just get "Error: Can't open display: <A's IP
> address goes here>".

Have you actually tried this, or are you guessing based on inability to
telnet by name?  If you have tried it, or if you try it and it does
indeed fail to work....

What you need is a small program to run on C, that accepts connections
and in turn connects to A, forwarding stuff back and forth.  If this
program were on C, listening for connections on the port used by
display 25, say (which means port 6025), then you would tell B that
you're using C:25 as your display.  B then connects to the little
daemon on C, which in turn connects to the real display on A, and
everything works.

I actually have tried this, and it does work.  You may have to play
with xhost and/or xauth, but it is certainly not out of the question.

The program to run on C is a simple little thing.  I have two programs
that can do it; one is specifically designed for X, the other is more
general but requires more knowledge of what goes on under the hood.
The X one is up for anonymous ftp from larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
(132.206.1.1) in X/xfwd.c; the other one is games/muck/aux/fwd.c on
that same machine.  Neither one is very well documented, but they're
small - 209 and 134 lines, respectively - so UTSLing is perhaps not out
of the question.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: jeff@visix.com (Jeff Barr)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: interface library toward X-windows, MsWindows, Macintosh
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:14:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA

Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:55:18 GMT
Message-Id: <BzMvs7.2tB@visix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

>>>>> On 16 Dec 92 23:01:47 GMT, grp@Unify.com (Greg Pasquariello) said:

Greg> In article <1992Dec14.114316.163297@ipgaix.unipg.it>, glm@ipgaix.unipg.it (Gianfranco Galmacci) writes:
> 
> I'm going to start a project which consists of a sw tool
> to be used in different platforms( eg: X-windows, ms windows
> and Macintosh). So I'm looking for some library which can
> operate as an interface between a c-program and the various
> windows environment avoiding to build a different program
> for each standard. Does anyone knows something about
> such a library? 

Greg> Buon giorno, Gianfranco,

Greg> Take a look at Galaxy by Visix.  Their library and development environment
Greg> supports Open Look, Motif, MS-Windows and (supposedly) Mac.  It is the richest,
Greg> most extensible cross platform toolkit available today.  It supports user
Greg> interface objects (buttons, windows, text, sliders, lists, etc.), a path
Greg> based drawing model (similar to postscript), file system and OS abstraction,
Greg> a wonderful geometry manager, multibyte static and dynamic strings, multi
Greg> style text, distributed application services (client/server, peer-to-peer,
Greg> RPC, etc), hashed names, platform independent object storage, etc.  If you
Greg> need more information, you can contact Visix at:

Greg> Visix Software, Inc,
Greg> 11440 Commerce Park Drive
Greg> Reston, Va 22091
Greg> (703) 758-0233

**** (703)-758-8230 	will get you voice (Greg posted our FAX number)	****
**** info@galaxy.com 	if you can't stand to leave your terminal ;-) 	****

Greg> And no, I don't take kickbacks from Visix or represent them in any way.  I
Greg> have just been looking for such a toolkit for years, they provide it, and
Greg> I'm very happy with it.

> Thanks a lot.
> Gianfranco Galmacci
> Dept. of Statistics
> Perugia - ITALY 
> -- 

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Jeff;

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From: wieck@jwminhh.hanse.de (Jan Wieck)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Xt question. Where are the pushbuttons?
Date: 2 Jan 93 10:01:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Private Site under Mach386

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:36:14 GMT
Message-Id: <1993Jan2.033614.10305@jwminhh.hanse.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

br762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Werner) writes:
: 
: Please Help.
: 
: Trying to enter the "goodbye, world" program from "X Window System Toolkit",
: by Asente & Swick.
: 
: It says,
: 
:    #include "Pushbutton.h"
: 
: I can't find this file anywhere. Is it a misprint? When I used MenuButton.h
:
: [lot of hacking deleted]

The above #include-statement requires a Pushbutton.h (case-sensitive)
file in the current working directory. Even if Motif is installed on
your system, it wouldn't be here.

You tried MenuButton instead, so I assume, that Motif isn't available
(I think you found that name somewhere in the include-directories :-)
In this case, you may bought the wrong book, because the examples are
based on Motif.

PushButton is a Motif-Widget, that invokes a command if it is selected
with a button press (similar to the Command Widget of the Athena- or the
OblongButton Widget of the Open-Look-Widgetset). So if Motif isn't
available, use Command instead because the Athena Widgets are included
in MIT's standard distribution and should be available.

MenuButton is an Athena-Widget, invoking a menu (like the ButtonStack
Widget in Open-Look or the CascadeButton in Motif). These require
siblings to be displayed if they are selected. So the messages aren't
a bug, they are a feature (debugging information).

For a good description of the Athena Widgets look into "The Definitive
Guides to the X Window System"

	volume 4:	X Toolkit Intrinsics Programming Manual
	volume 5:	X Toolkit Intrinsics Reference Manual



Until later, Jan

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From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Framemaker - X cut and paste
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:32:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: 23 Dec 92 16:38:36 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec23.163836.9583@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1h7r6cINNnp2@fnnews.fnal.gov>, shah@fnsony.fnal.gov (Hemant Shah) writes:
> In article <1244@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> you write:
[I don't know who "you" is.]
>> I have been trying to cut and paste between Framemaker and either
>> xterm or xrolo (or any X-based application) without success.  [The
>> Framemaker] manual says that selected text is held in the X
>> clipboard and may be pasted elsewhere.  This is not true with the
>> standard setup.  [...]
> The problem is with olvwm or olwm.  They do not put the marked test
> in X cut buffer.

Which cut buffer?  There are ten of them.  And none of them are
selections of any sort, including PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD.

In any case, it's none of the window manager's business to meddle with
selections and cut buffers.

If Framemaker doesn't claim the PRIMARY selection when you select text
in whatever the documented way is, it's buggy, and you should submit a
bug report, and unless you have the source, hope the vendor feels like
being nice to you.  (Okay, perhaps that's a bit strong.  It's possible
that it was (mis)configured by whoever installed it to use whatever it
is using rather than PRIMARY or CLIPBOARD or whatever.)

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: playing with window managers
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:57:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

Date: 30 Dec 92 00:00:53 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Dec30.000053.22144@siemens.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

>Another apporach is to have a xterm window and the end of the .xinitrc, and
>exiting this window will kill X -- but this I find kludgy..

How so?  I've always had an xterm -C at the end of .xinitrc.   A client's a
client.
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