HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Dating an older woman
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:55:51 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Oct7.030936.15552@sfu.ca> hoyle@beaufort.sfu.ca (Michelle Hoyle) writes:
[I write]:
>>I think that it's not so much a question of age as of life stages. If
>>you go with someone significantly older, they are more likely to have
>>been through certain formative experiences already (which can be either
>>good or bad) and are probably at a different stage in their career
>>(which can be bad, especially if you're just starting out and the
>>career gets in conflict with the relationship). One of you may be
>>ready to settle down and the other not. IMHO it's not so much the
>>age difference per se as the idea that both members of a relationship
>>should be adults of vaguely equal standing. That's what sometimes
>>worries me when I see significant age differences.
>
>Life stages?  Equal standing?  How do you measure something like 
>that?

Durned if I know. Maybe it's having gone through some of the same
experiences, ranging from previous lovers to a death in the family
to having started a career (or not). I think it's usually much
easier to see when this isn't the case, but mostly it's just 
something to think about.

>On the other hand, I think that you might have something with your
>"equality".  For the most part, I don't feel very comfortable with
>people who are near my age.  The simple reason behind this is that
>they are not, to my mind, as mature/serious as I am.  They appear to
>be children worried not beyond their decision of what to wear on the
>morrow, whereas I am their parent concerned with finances, rent, and   
>coping with a job and studies at the same time.

Yup. I know people in their early 20's whom I would classify as adults
-- they have an idea of themselves and know what they want to do in
their lives and are responsible -- and then I know people in their
late 30's or early 40's whom I would classify as still basically
adolescent -- they don't know what they're doing, and you can't
trust them to do anything or be somewhere etc. (Some of these
people are engaging and wonderful and I wouldn't have them any
other way, but I make a point of knowing their limitations :-))
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:52:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.213359.21984@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>In article <1biej9INNaqc@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>
>|> Higher divorce rates, and all the other social phenomena of today that people
>|> would falsely point to as indications of social and institutional breakdown are,
>|> in reality, quite natural and inevitable consequences of the highly singular
>|> historical change our entire civilization is going through.
>|> 
>|> They are not "problems", they're not "caused" by anyone, they cannot be
>|> "solved".  They are the inevitable consequences of the nature of our time or
>|> any other similar time of the past or any other similar time yet to be.
>
>Bullshit. Maybe if you throw in a few more polysyllabic words we can declare
>you an expert and put a "Dr" in front of your name.

Actually, I think Mark has a point--while I don't agree entirely with his
view here, I think it's worth a lot more thought than it takes to type in
an expletive.

In a sense, I wonder if divorce is necessarilly such an intrinsically evil
thing--granted, in our culture it is frequently handled very badly and it's
almost always a bit sticky when children are involved, but people and their
needs and goals do change with time, and, not too infrequently, they come to
a time when a divorce makes their lives better.

Indeed, our divorce rates may be less a symptom of social ills and
unhappiness than an indicator that people are no longer as willing to
live without their happiness and individuality for the sake of keeping
a marriage together, even if there's no real reason why the marriage
should be kept together.

Personally, I value individual happiness more than I value marriages and
think that people should have the freedom to do what is best for themselves
in the long run. 

Trygve   (Who is a doctor and would be happy to throw in a few more
          polysyllabic words for your enjoyment--one of my favorites
          at the moment being "floccinaucinihilipilificatory.") 



Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,talk.bizarre
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:36:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.193855.15489@ultb.isc.rit.edu> adw3345@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.D. Williams) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.164220.472@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>>mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley) writes:
>>>How long has it been since you were kissed by a member of
>>>the opposite sex?
>>>
>>>	Mark (almost a year)
>>
>>Nine months, five days.
>
> Twenty two years.

Thirty seconds.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: RE: relationship gone to pot?
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:26:06 GMT


In article <12OCT92.15230625@verbis.waisman.wisc.edu>, kingston@verbis.waisman.wisc.edu writes:
> 85% of the relationships today are dysfunctional ...

So what percentage of (single) people are dysfunctional ? - 85% or 42.5% ?

Just wondered what my chances were,
Kev.

-- 

WHFS: Living in a screwed-up place in a screwed-up time with screwed-up people,
      does not necessarily mean you are screwed-up.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Lookin for Karen Bishman
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:21:44 GMT

In article <1bg4crINNt78@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>
>From Not the BBC News:
>>  "The Security Council yesterday afternoon passed a resolution demanding
>>   that Trygve open up his dungeon to international inspection."
>
>>International inspection?  Does that mean they're sending Emma over?
>
>Well, perhaps ... if only she were free to leave at any time. (*GRIN*)

Oh, of course she's free to leave at any time--though I think she might
get some strange looks if she headed off to the airport before we got all
the chocolate pudding off her. 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Qui est le plus MUSHY?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:05:05 GMT

julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>And a good way to start being a jerk is to make a lot of 
>unfair and unflattering generalizations about women.

How about fair and unflattering generalisations?

>Ooh, BABY!  Somebody throw cold water on me!  

All I seem to be able to find is this jug of cold maple syrup....

>I always wonder when I see these "I'm trying to be a jerk so I can attract
>more women" posts: just what sort of women do you think you're going to
>attract??  

Presumably, the women among his friends whom he is attracted to, but
who scorn him while complaining incessantly about the jerks they're
dating.  He figures that in order to date those people....

>Maybe you should try cultivating some patience instead.

Naw.  I want it NOW.  

>Sometimes you have to wait for the good stuff.  Life's like that.  

And sometimes the good stuff never comes or comes but once.  
If you find it, remember that you are exceedingly lucky.

>* loris, n.     Any of several small, nocturnal, arboreal primates of the *

Lorises are cute.  But do they have the right work ethic?

-- 
"Tapirs are animals used in geography books. Geography could be taught
 without Tapirs but it would not be the same. Geography with Tapirs
 gives children the right start in life. If they go wrong later on,
 it is not the fault of the Tapir."
 ..................................Will Cuppy, _How to Attract The Wombat_
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.peeves,talk.abortion,talk.bizarre,alt.sex
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Clarification of Social Obligations
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:56:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.014602.7336@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>
>ObRealLife: why is my ProblemOlderWoman So confused?

We-ellllll......you *have* been saying, "Just say No to Hetero."  Maybe
it's time to find yourself a ProblemOlderMan?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Who needs Lime Jello [tm]?  We had lasagna.....
From: aaf0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Andrew Aaron Feigin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Help! 200 Mile Relationship! And I'm lost on the road!
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:54:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct9.131231.5519@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (
nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.174303.113705@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aaf0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (A
ndrew Aaron Feigin) writes:
>>I have a girlfriend that is 200 miles away and i can't see her for a while,
>>atleast till christmas.  I really love her, but seeing each other once at
>>christmas and then spring break and all next summer really hurts.  I want to
>>make it work, but i'm afraid that it is hopeless, what should i do?
>
>I have to assume that one or both of you are away at college or
>some school.  My advice is to let time pass, make the most of it
>during that time, and when the time is right - marry her.
>
>Then you'll see her every day.  Good luck!
>
>-Nance
>
>--
>Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
>att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
>                            (_) \(_)
>

Thanks.... I just have to deal with it... and maybe I will marry her!
later
love
me
-- 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Dating an older woman
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:27:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.030936.15552@sfu.ca> hoyle@beaufort.sfu.ca (Michelle Hoyle) writes:
>that?
>
>On the other hand, I think that you might have something with your
>"equality".  For the most part, I don't feel very comfortable with
>people who are near my age.  The simple reason behind this is that
>they are not, to my mind, as mature/serious as I am.  They appear to
>be children worried not beyond their decision of what to wear on the
>morrow, whereas I am their parent concerned with finances, rent, and   
>coping with a job and studies at the same time.
>
>Legally, anyone over the age of 18 (or 19 in some provinces) is an
>adult, but being an adult is a state of mind, not a state of
>physiological being.
>Michelle -- QBS

 Hear, hear. I much prefer associating with a more mature set a higher
class if you will. Those silly children will never ascertain the depth
of knowledge and care associated with people like you or me.
 
 God has given us these broad sholders so that we may lift the burden,
the task, the slough of life, if you will. While they peter about in
their frivolous pursuit of wholy unimportant knick knacks. 
 
 You and I may stay the course. Taxes are for the little people.
 
 Just the other day Leona and I where browbeating are man servant
Bernard when he had the audacity to spill a shrimp shell into the
pool. Well I thrashed him about the facial area and I don't think
he'll be rebounding with that sort of behavior any time soon.
 
 Michelle will you be attending the servant auction at the
Reagans. Imelda will be carooning some of our favorite Pavarati.
 
 Do keep in touch. Indubidably. Taa Taa. Tally ho. Chip Chip.
 
================================================================================
 Ipisissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - IIOSF XOX Dawn
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: wjb@moscom.com (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Balloon Boink report
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:18:30 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.3 beta PL7]

John Fereira (johnf@Auspex.COM) wrote:
: > Desert sunrises are really very pretty, but they are WAY too early.
: Which reminds me.  Why haven't we heard anything about those incredible
: New Mexico sunsets that were being bragged about?
Probably 'cause if you're awake for the sunrise, you're asleep for the
sunset :-)
-- 
Who needs lime jello?  We had lasagna...
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Eddie's really back.
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 01:05:20 GMT

In article 13594@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu, ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:
>In article <1992Oct16.013315.1351@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>Foxtrot-Uniform-Charlie-KILL  Omega-Foxtrot-Foxtrot
>
>You're close, but K->Kilo and O->Oscar.
>
>I've found that there are problems being a pilot and also enjoying
>fantasy stories:
>	"Tower, this is Alpha Oscar Unicorn ..."
>
 

Thank you extremely. Been awhile since I used a two-way, and then it was for
only a summer doing one two-minute conversation a week. Reception was always
good, BTW.

Andreas.
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Define "Single"
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 23:19:33 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:

> In article <Bw4r6q.KIE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (
> >nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (Nance Colucci) writes:

> >>Does participation in soc.singles imply that you are looking for
> >>someone to have a relationship with and want to do so by having
> >>them send you email?
> >Well, if you are in fact single and participate, it probably means you
> >are looking for a relationship.  
> 
> Well I'm single and I participate and I'm NOT looking for a relationship
> and I'm beginning to feel out of place.

In Real Life, I'm involved in a couple singles groups (tangled syntax
alert!). We don't discriminate against people who happen to be in
relationships, we just don't see them as often :-) .  For maybe
25% (?) of the people in those real life groups, they are seriously
*not* looking but instead taking a break, others are in LDRs, some are
in stable long term relationships, some are looking, some have
little or no chance of ever finding a relationship even though they are
looking (just like the net, don'cha think?)  All are having some
fun and making some friends. The real life groups do exclude married people,
which is a disadvantage when a good friend gets married and suddenly can't
come to the party anymore.  

So stick around. I don't see soc.singles participation as a declaration 
of availability, though it does suggest that one wouldn't be offended by
reasonable inquiries.  It's just a party, an odd one at times :-) but usually 
an interesting one.  BTW, I thought the "Not Trolling" sig was a good clue
(even if the clueless are impervious to clues!).

-- Ray
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 03:28:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

>In article <1992Oct6.134605.16183@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley) writes:
>> How long has it been since you were kissed by a member of
>> the opposite sex?
>> 
>> 	Mark (almost a year)

In article <1992Oct9.125743.203045@uctvax.uct.ac.za> krgjus01@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>Mark!!!
>
>I think it is time you accepted that you are GAY and give up .

Obviously, such a remark could only come a place like South Africa where people
apparently derive great joy from bashing the brains out of one another for
their differences.

Sooo.... where ARE you posting from, hmmm?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Lookin for Karen Bishman
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:24:01 GMT

In <1992Oct13.203650.29292@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>In article <1b4u90INNgjp@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct9.202822.2518@newsgate.sps.mot.com> beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com writes:
>>>Desparately seeking Karen Bishman. Graduated Florida,
>>>Gainsville early 80's Computer Science Major. Worked 
>>>for Lockheed, ARCO, IMS Consulting all in southern 
>>>California.
>>
>>Okay Trygve.  Fess up.  Have you been keeping her in your dungeon too??

>Oh, no--I'm not *keeping* her in my dungeon; she's free to leave at any
>time.  (Or, at least, she's free to try to persuade me to unlock the
>door--it's not the same as *keeping* her there at all.) 

>>  "The Security Council yesterday afternoon passed a resolution demanding
>>   that Trygve open up his dungeon to international inspection."

>International inspection?  Does that mean they're sending Emma over?

	Oh, you want me to come? Sure, anything for you, darling! (*laughter*)
 

>Trygve 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Qui est le plus MUSHY?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:56:36 GMT

In article <JULIE.92Oct14191329@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu>
julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>I always wonder when I see these "I'm trying to be a jerk so I can attract
>more women" posts: just what sort of women do you think you're going to
>attract??  

Ones with enough intelligence not to believe it and enough sense of
humor to be amused.  Others aren't worth the effort, anyway.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Book Rec.: _Bodies: Overcoming the Tyranny of Perfection_
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:04:20 GMT

>kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Me) writes of ice cream:
>>fresh from the churn, and has lots of yummy things but no chunks.
>>feel free to come over and partake of ice cream some warm summer night...

julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>Mmmmmm..... But hang on -- I have to wait for next summer??

You have a point.  I was thinking about eating it while sitting on the
porch swing watching the moonrise... but I suppose hot maple sundaes
and mulled cider in front of the fireplace would be nice too.  So feel
free to come over anytime.

>Ice cream should not be a seasonal thing, you know!  It's a way of life!

I stand corrected.  *smile*

-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: Simian crease (was Re: Open letter to Edward V. Wright)
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:00:12 GMT

In article <Bw40tG.2Gy@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Oct13102312@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>Fun story.  It'd be even better if I knew what a simian crease was.
>
>I'm sorry that you missed the "Ugly hands" thread.
>
>The following is an explanation of the simian crease.  Anyone wishing to skip
>it should take appropriate action.
>
>The palms of your hands have flexure lines.  They form a pattern but differ
>slightly from one person to the next.  This is what enables people called
>palm readers to make a living; they "read" your palm for character traits
>after you have placed some cash into their palm.  What the flexure lines
>really are are skin hinges that allow your skin to bend when you flex your 
>fingers or your thumb.  Most people have two flexure lines running roughly
>perpendicular to the fingers, one from the radial (thumb-side) edge and
>the other from the ulnar (pinkie-side or karate-chop) edge, that pass each
>other and terminate near the middle of the palm.  This is the human pattern.
>However, monkeys and apes have a single flexure line running right across the
>palm from the radial edge to the ulnar edge.  And so do about 4% of humans, 
>about 6% of males and 2% of females (more sexual dimorphism).  It's just
>more evidence that there are ape genes swimming in the human gene pool.

Now you got me looking at my palms (the people here at work must think I've
completely lost it) and I notice that my left and right palms differ.  Why
does this interest me ?  About a year ago I broke a number of bones in my
right hand and had hand surgery performed a number of times. (A few pins to
hold the bones together, a couple of tendon sheath releases, etc..)  The
result is that I have a number of additional creases (or lines) where incisions
were made.  Nevertheless, my observation of differences between my palms
includes only the creases I was born with, not the ones added by the surgeon.
Any comments about differences in palms ?

Mark
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: WANTED WOMAN 27 +
Keywords: Mature, sincere funloving **W 27+ wanted
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:09:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.003247.6289@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!) writes:
>and lo, there was much rejoicing among the people, as
>  ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:
>>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>>You know you've been reading the net too long when you blink at a post like
>>>this several times and you keep seeing: I am looking for a mature worm.
>>
>>hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!) replies:
>>>at this point in time, i'd /take/ a mature worm... *sigh*
>>
>>Fishing for a relationship?
>
>bassically.  i'm floundering through the current one, which started
>as a fluke.

It sounds to me like you're hooked on the one you're on.  You shouldn't leader
on if you're not interested though.  If you are however you should tackle the
relationship straight on or she'll soon see that the jig is up.  Don't stay
in the relationship just for the halibut.

I know, I know.  But you knew someone had to use that one.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,talk.bizarre
From: huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann)
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:56:22 GMT

Would you all who've been kissed in the last 5 minutes quit rubbing it in?

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