From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:49:53 GMT
Organization: Amiga makes it possible
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug27.234519.24627@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> >>
> >>some luck souls might have a 386SX Bridgeboard.  And if they really know
> >>what they are doing, they can desolder the 386SX and replace it with
> >>a Cyrix chip.
> >>
>
> >Sounds great.								NOT!
>
> may I ask... why not?

I had a 286 bridgeboard in 2 different Amigas.  It was slow and made the whole
Amiga slower.  To make it go reasonably fast, I had to put a PC hardcard in the
Amiga for the PC to boot from.  A complete and faster PC clone could be bought
for the same money...  The only benefit from having a bridgeboard was to be able
to move data from/to the Amiga/PC universe.  But there are other solutions which
are cheaper or better.

>
> >>
> >>Now... Jerry... just for the sake of argument  (oops... perhaps I shouldn't
> >>say this...) what can a 486 do that a 386 cant?
> >>
>
> >Not much.  There are some minor (minute) MMU and instruction set differences
> >and a built-in FPU and cache.  It just runs a hell of a lot faster than a
> >386/387 combo.
>
> may I repeat myself once again... "What can a 486 do that a 386 can't?"
>

What does an 040 do that a 030 can't?

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> 	So... what's my point?  I don't mean to upset you, Jerry.  Yes,
> I agree Amiga's price is much higher than an IBM clone... but that doesn't
> mean that the Amiga doesn't have its merits.  We like the Amiga... that's
> why we are still staying with the Amiga--and that doesn't mean I don't
> open myself to other computers either... I agree with Mykes--though he
> owns a Dell 486 now, he claims he will still keep and use his Amiga.  Now,
> Jerry, would you please try to understand us--we like our machine--and it
> isn't dead yet... so let's not try to convince us the Amiga is doom, ok?
> thanks...
>

To me the Amiga represents both ends of the spectrum and nothing in between.
The A3000 is a low-end computer system at high end prices.  But slap in the
best Amiga 3rd party hardware and you have a machine that is a very useful
workstation.  The schism has already happened.  The A500 is a game machine.
The new high end Amiga sounds like a high end (low end compared, still) NTSC
video workstation.

> Besides... if you did manage to convince some of us to jump boat to
> the IBM market... well... congratulations.  However, the same group of
> people would easily jump boat to another system when someone else
> convinces them...
>

He never claimed he was trying to convince anyone to switch computers.

> 	anyways... I really don't mean to argue with you, Jerry.  I respect
> you, and I hope you will respect us too.
>
> 	Thanks for listening, folks.
>
> Now... back to regular .advocacy broadcast...
>
> Yours Sincerely,
> Kelvin
>
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Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
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