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From: prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr)
Subject: Re: ever changing NT (MS running scared...?)
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:38:49 GMT


It's really amazing what kinds of developments you can have on a piece
of software when it doesn't really exist yet!  The sky's the limit!  I
heard that NT was going to support multiple CMS sessions on an 8088!
Yep, it's true!  Bill Gates told me himself!  What's that you say? NT is
coming bundled with a 20ppm PostScript laser printer for the unbeatable
price of $99.95?  WOW!  Bill Gates sure is a hell of a guy...

	-Phil
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sidney@borland.com (Sidney Markowitz)
Subject: Re: TDW and OS/2
Organization: Borland International
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:08:21 GMT

In article <19920410.041744.793@almaden.ibm.com> ian@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>In <s3cnsINN8or@agate.berkeley.edu> Derek Suzuki writes:
>>   Can anyone tell me whether Turbo Debugger for Windows works under GA?
>From the OS/2 post install ReadMe file
>
>o   Turbo Debugger for Windows (Windows)
>
>    -   Run the program in a WIN-OS/2 full-screen
>        session.
>    -   The screen is temporarily corrupted when
>        this program is called from Turbo C++.
[...]

Some additional info:

The screen noise was helped on my machine (with a Tseng ET4000) by
using the ALL.DLL video driver for TDW 3.0 that is part of MOST.ZIP,
available from the Borland BBS and from Borland Tech Support. This is
used according to the instructions in the BC++ 3.0 readme file
regarding TDVIDEO.DLL and should be used with the Int2FAssist=Yes
option.

Some things do not seem to work right. In particular, TDW seems to
hang instead of trapping a GP fault in the program being debugged,
necessitating getting back to PM and killing the Windows session. That
made debugging a GP fault a bit tedious, as compared to the behavior
under DOS of trapping the fault and putting you in the debugger.

Also, ctrl-alt-SysReq does not interrupt the debugged program and get
you back to the debugger, so you have to make sure that you have set
up a convenient breakpoint, perhaps on some mouse event, before you
run.

Those last two problems are quite annoying, but I find that the
ability to do compiles and downloads in the background and debug all
at the same time, and especially not having to reboot the whole
machine so much, makes working under OS/2 much more pleasant than
under Windows. However, I do look forward to the remaining glitches
getting cleared up and for some seamless SVGA drivers for my display.

 -- sidney markowitz <sidney@borland.com>
From: matt@bss1.umd.edu (Matthew Piermarini)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 GA BUG - Please Read
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:26:01 GMT
Organization: College of Behavioral and Social Sciences, U of Maryland

I posted a couple days ago about OS/2 GA not installing on my machine.  I 
got a lot of replies (thanks everybody), but it turns out to be a bug in 
GA.  I am reposting what I got from someone at BOCA on how to fix this 
problem.

Following text inserted....

From: fattire@vnet.ibm.com (BJ Hargrave)
Subject: My OS/2 GA Won't Install!
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:54:12 GMT

This is a known problem with GA OS/2 2.0. Here is a work around
until a fix becomes available.
================================================================
PROBLEM: Some customers with AT-bus machines are having difficulty
         installing 2.0.
CONFIGURATION: AT-bus (ISA)
               non-SCSI disk controller (RLL, MFM, ESDI)
SYMPTOMS: Very slow install
          Very noisy hard disk during install
          FDISK errors
WORKAROUND:
Step 1:Use DOS to edit the CONFIG.SYS on Diskette #1 in the 2.0 package.
       Diskette #1 is the first diskette AFTER the Install diskette.
       Change the line -
       BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
            to
       REM BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
Step 2: Boot the Install diskette and proceed with Install through the
        first five diskettes.
Step 3: After diskettes 1 through 5 are processed, you are asked to
        reinsert the Install diskette.
        DO SO.
        After copying some files from the Install diskette, you are
        asked to remove the Install diskette and press Enter to reboot.
        DO NOT DO THIS. LEAVE THE INSTALL DISKETTE IN THE DRIVE.
Step 4: Press Enter with the Install diskette in the drive.
        This will boot the Install diskette.
        After a while, you will be asked to insert Diskette #1.
        DO SO.
        Watch the screens carefully. After a while, you will see a
        screen that tells you (on the lower left) that you can Escape
        out of it.
        When you see this, press Esc.
Step 5: You are now at a command line.
        Enter the following commands:
        RENAME C:\OS2\IBM1S506.ADD   IBM1S506.XXX
        COPY   C:\OS2\IBMINT13.I13   C:\OS2\IBM1S506.ADD
        Note: If C is not your install drive, adjust the commands
              accordingly.
Step 6: Remove the diskette from the drive.
        Press ALT-CTRL-DEL to reboot the system, and install should
        pick up where it left off.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
BJ Hargrave                     Internet: fattire@vnet.ibm.com
Boca Raton, FL                  IBMIPNet: bjhar@bjhar.bocaraton.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Windows users please read (WAS: MS deceitful...)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:07:56 GMT

adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:

>Oh give me a break...  If this guy is such an ignoramus that he decides  
>not to even look at OS/2 based upon what some overly enthusiastis people  
>say about OS/2, then he deserves to be stuck with Windows for the rest of  
>his days.

Unfortunately, a portion of the market is made up of such ignorami.

>  There is nothing wrong with being eager about a new OS and  
>wanting it to do well.

No there isn't, so long as we're talking about comp.os.os2.misc.
But if we post in comp.windows.ms, we should observe nettiquette
and make sure such postings are relevant to Windows.  Trust me on
this - I was caught in a talk.bizzare/alt.tv.tiny-toon crossposting
war.  It really makes you hate the people in the other group, even
to the point of doing stupid things like not considering OS/2.
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Subject: Re: All GUIs are not alike
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:06:40 GMT

In article <CB.92Apr9134843@tamarack12.timbuk>, cb@tamarack12.timbuk (Chris
Brewster) wrote:
> 
> 
> My wife has been using MS Windows at work and recently added a Mac to her
> work environment (it's a fragmented environment where she needs both).  She
> was amazed at how much better the Mac interface is than Windows--more
> instinctive, more direct, fewer steps, etc.  (I have limited experience
> with either, so I have no opinion.)  So I'm wondering: how does the new
> OS/2 interface compare with these?  Is the interface closer in quality to
> Windows or to the Mac?
> 

Well, I have used and programmed both Windoze and the Mac.  I HATE Windoze
and love the Mac.  I used to have both a Mac and a Windoze machine at work
and go rid of Windoze.  As far as I am concerned, the Mac has the best 
interface around.....Then I saw OS/2.  

My initial reaction was negative because they do things differently.  After
about 15 minutes of using the WPS, I loved it.  I feel the interface is 
friendlier and easier to use the even the Mac.  This is quite a feat.
Check out OS/2, it is well worth it.


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd "Slan" Bradley)
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE TV ADS, WHERE ARE THE BANNERS...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:26:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.131032.4753@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu 
(David Charlap) writes:

>In article <12013@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> jsvec@umaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu 
>(Joe Svec) writes:

>>Something that popped in my mind last night while watch TV 
>>was that most people in this country (who watch TV) know more 
>>about the virtues of KRAFT MIRICLE WHIP than they do about OS/2!
>
>Not to insult anyone, but most people who watch that much TV probably
>care more about their Miracle Whip than about computers.  I know I
>only watch three TV shows a week (aside from the News): Dr. Who, Star
>Trek, and LA Law.

Well, I don't think it has anything to do with t.v.  I mean, seriously,
you should expect lots more people to know the virtues of Miracle Whip
than know the virtues of OS/2.  Think of how many people eat sandwiches
and then think of how many people own 386 or 486 PCs.  Also, Miracle
Whip has been around at least 20 years (as long as I can remember).
OS/2 has been around about 7 days (discounting, as most the world
does, versions prior to 2.0).


Todd.
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The World, Supreme Ruler Of The Galaxy, AND Captain of The Flying 
Bitheads Ultimate Frisbee Team. (303) 443-6317 or 492-5826
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 command shells
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:25:51 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <880506s.703134058@aucs> 880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:
>
>	I am trying to make a list of all the shells currently 
>avaliable for OS/2 and this is what I have been able to come up
>with:
>
>	CMD.EXE ( the standard OS/2 command shell )
>	SH.EXE  ( the Bourne shell port )
>        CSH     ( the Hamilton version )
>        4OS2    ( the equivelent to 4DOS )
>
>Does anybody know of any that I have overlooked?
>

I think there is a ksh (Korn Shell) out there somewhere too.

>
>--

	-Phil
From: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OPTI chipset and OS/2 GA
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mo@minnie.cc.utexas.edu


 Hello.  I would like to know if the OPTI chipset works or doesn't work or
if their are any bugs with OS/2 GA.  Thank you.  I will post a summary if
I get enough replies.

From: bobo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Bob O'Donnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:55:45 GMT
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra and OS/2 1.3
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

Timothy, I found the material in the manual you were referring to regarding
changing to 8514/A.  In attempting to follow the instructions I ran into
the following snag.  When I attempted to unpack the appropriate files from
the OS/2 command line, an error message stating that there were corrupted
extended attributes resulting in 0 files unpacked.  This is a new error
message to me.  Does this mean that the floppy is corrupted or that something
about EA DATA. SF on my hard disk is corrupted?

I then decided to talk to ATI about their drivers.  The tech support person
claimed that even though I had a driver dated in February of this year that
it must be a 1.2 driver.  He claimed that the 1.3 driver is just now being
finished and would be available in a week or two (right).

Personally, I find it hard to believe that they would just now be finishing
a 1.3 driver with 2.0 hitting the streets.  He acknowledged that the 2.0
driver is also in progress, but gave no availability date.

All in all, I wish my 2.0 upgrade would get here so I could wipe the
slate clean and get on with things.  My first sense of ATI's support for
OS/2 is not encouraging.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Timothy Sipples RIP, the evil has finally been destroyed! REJOICE!!
From: jstewart@desire.wright.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:38:11 EST
 <1992Apr2.163957.1769@clif.ypsi.mi.us> <1992Apr3.201045.18200@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <1992Apr7.214651.27439@hemlock.cray.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Apr7.214651.27439@hemlock.cray.com>, bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.201045.18200@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> schubert@capri.berkeley.edu.UUCP (John Schubert) writes:
>>You know all you IBM OS/2 folks this was really the last straw.  I had to
>>stand up and join the voice of a most courageous person in finally pointing
>>out the hipocracy and lunacy of one Timothy Sipples.
>>
>>I am sure that all of you feel the same way, but have kept silent waiting for
>>a champion to appear on the horizon.  While I think he has finally arrived.  I
>>know it is so-so-very presumptious of me to even attempt to quote and improve
>>on his most-excellent rebuff of the evil Sipples, but I think that I must try.
>>
>>So here goes, and if I err could you please try and find it in your hearts to
>>forgive me....Just think of me as a poor dolt who is trying to rise to the
>>GREATNESS that has appeared before all of us mere dolts, and dolter-ers.
>>
> 
> I must disagree.  Timothy is doing an outstanding job with the FAQ and helping
> new users!  While I have not been on this forum recently (since 3/30/92), 
> I can't believe Timothy went over the edge.
> 
> IMHO, personal attacks are not appropriate to this forum.  Putting OS/2
> information on this forum, discussing OS/2, helping people is appropriate.
> 
> Bert Moshier

	I think he was being sarcastic(at least I took it that way).  I also
thought it was hilarious:)

							J. S.
From: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 is out in the UK
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:50:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Well, I've just finished installing OS/2 V2.0, which I got at the Which
computer Show this morning, where IBM did the UK launch. Yippee!!!
(and thanks to everyone at Boca!)

The IBM stand was tremendous. Lots of technical IBMers (wearing the white
jumpers - not a suit (jacket) in sight) around, who really knew their stuff,
and were very refreshing to talk to. And Ozzie's banter with the poor lady
trying to explain the features kept everyone laughing, and interested. Indeed
it caused major congestion in that area of the hall for the whole day!
Copies of OS/2 were selling fast - but not being sold by IBM itself, only
by business partners!

Notable by their absence were... Microsoft! Microsoft Press were the *only*
presence at the show that I could find!

IBM, OS/2, and Ozzie were the stars of the show!

Keep it up, IBM!

Martin
INTERNET: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
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From: wlrobe01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Programs the OS/2 won't run?? Help!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:09:23 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Everyone,

Well, I am now running GA, and loving it!  It is really a nice piece of work.

I just have 2 questions that I hope that someone out there can help me with:
BTW, I am running on a 386sx/16 with 8 megs of ram, and a Trident 1meg/SVGA
card (8900c) chipset.

1.  I started up Harvard Graphics 3.0 in a full screen DOS session, and after
    switching to another program, and then going back to Harvard Graphics,
    the screen is all distorted.  The mouse still works fine, and I can
    limp my way down the menus until I get to the Exit option.  
    I have tried toggling the VIDEO_RETRACE_EMULATION, and the 
    VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION, and changing the values of VIDEO_WINDOW_REFRESH.
    All of this seems to make no difference.  No other program I run
    seems to have this problem.

2.  I use a piece of contact management software called Maximizer, and it 
    is produced by Richmond Technologies and software.  This program requires
    the FILES setting in the config.sys file to be 99 in order for it to run.
    Well, when I try to run it in a DOS windows, I get a message saying that
    I have only 44 file handles availiable.  I have tried setting the FILES
    statement in the config.sys file and rebooting, but no luck.  I have also
    set the DOS_FILES setting all the way up to 255 for the Maximizer session,
    but it still says that I have only 44 file handles availiable.

Any ideas?? :)

I would really appreciate any info on either problem!

Thanks so much,


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From: soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Mouse problem under os/2 2.0
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:25:04 GMT
Reply-To: soh3@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


I was one of those who were fortunate enough to get a free copy of
OS/2 2.0 at the Comdex.  I was trying to install it on my computer
(Compaq Deskpro 20 MHz with 5 meg memory and 300 meg disk).  I could
install it without much problem, but once I reboot the system
I found that my mouse (Logitech serial mouse) is not responding.
Is there a soul who had a similar problem?  How can get it work again?
I am just starting with OS/2, so if this question offended anybody
please pardon me.

Min
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smbrush@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup)
Subject: Re: Manuals with OS/2 V.2 as shipped.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Apr 1992 08:47 EST  

In article <"barnacle.e.436:08.03.92.01.07.39"@clarkson.edu>, gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM writes...
> 
>Online pubs make the product cheaper, printed pubs cost $$$ for paper, print
>services, typesetting,...
> 
>So, what's the best, who knows.  Maybe online pubs that customers can print?
>Or online pubs and charge extra if you want printed pubs ??
> 
>Any comments ?

IBM already has the extra-cost printed docs, for about $300 for the set!!!
I would like to have the information contained in that set in soft form... 
either floppies or CD.  (If the CD was sold for reproduction cost, I'd save 
almost enough to buy a cheap CD reader !)

The print facility for the existing (304 beta) docs is practically useless.
. no index, no page numbers, no layout, etc.  Formatted printing, with 
table of contents and index, is an absolute must for documents because I 
like to read the docs on unfamiliar parts of the system while on an 
airplane or otherwise occupied away from the computer.

While I'm making suggestions, how about some facility which lets the user 
add information to his electronic documents?  I have used Microsoft's help 
compiler to decompile, fix, and recompile their C library help, and this 
was good but slow.  It would be better to have a patch file.

Andrew S. Brush             | SMBRUSH@LIMS01.lerc.nasa.gov
Sverdrup Technology         | 2001 Aerospace Parkway
NASA LeRC Group             | Brook Park, OH 44142
"Opinions are Mine, Only"   | (216) 826-6770
Organization: European Academic Research Network
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 14:34:25 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PC Magazine coverage
 <9204082245.AA16081@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>

I just wrote them several flame letters. I wonder if they read them
or care..  -turgut
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: RE: Help with Bootmanager (thanx guys!)
From: cvadr014@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:42:12 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadr014


Thanx to everyone who answered my question about bootmanager, both in email, 
and on here. I don't know why i didn't try that. (probaly cause it was 4 am!) - 

	Anyways, i have a couple of other observations:
		1. Is it normal for the system to crash out if there is
		  insufficient disk space on the swap partition? I've currently
		  have the swappath set to a smaller patition which is 
		  set as an HPFS, however, one particular windows program, 
		  Risk, comes back with an 'inssuficient swap space' error, 
		  which is a full screen error (text mode) and does not look
		  like an os/2 based one (no register dump, etc) but it does
		  bring the system down to a shuddering halt. 

		  The other is, if the system is swapping rather intensively 
		  My roomate opened up 16 dos boxes, and anything else he
		coule find to see what would happen. What ended up
		happening was a KBS Dev Drv Exception and a crash. This 
		has happend to me 2 other times, both when the system was
		swapping, but no where near as much as it was the first time. 
		Now, if irun out of swap space, i'll get a notification, that 
		there is either issufficient memory, or that the swap partition
		is full. My question is, how the heck is it that i only get 
		this exception while swapping is occuring? I know its not 
		specific to my machine, since i was using another machine 
		earlier today, and it did the same thing, at a time it was
		swapping out to disk.
	
		Basically, has anyone run into this? 

	It doesn't sound like its an application causing it, due to the 
protection inthe OS, so it would have to be either an errant device driver
(Keyboard perhaps?) or ?


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X-Subliminal-Message: OS/2 2.0 is here.  Call 1-800-3IBMOS2 to order.
X-Curtains-For-Windows: OS/2 2.0 upgrade from Windows: $49
X-PEPSI-Slogan: My butt -- Gotta bite it!
X-Emasculated-Operating-System: UNIX
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 12:45:03 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Windows 3.1 support in OS/2 2.0 - will run real mode apps!

I just read on Prodigy that IBM's Windows 3.1 support will also run real
mode Windows apps,  something that Windows 3.1 itself cannot do!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: barrett@cloudgen1.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: PC Magazine Article
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:40:51 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing

Well, I finally got around to reading the first decent piece of
coverage on OS/2 in a Ziff-Davis magazine.  Did anyone else
notice that OS/2 was called "a multitasking, multiheaded OS"????

---------------------OS/2 v2.0 -- It's heeeeerrrreee!!!!!-----------------------
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Georgia Tech College of Computing       |  I am without speech."              
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