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From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "The Making of Sgt. Pepper"
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:38:54 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

In article <1992Sep30.071752.3554@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep28.152339.22503@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs) writes:
>>>...the show was very good, I'm quite disappointed that it wasn't longer.
>>>Total running time was about 38 minutes.  Disney lost a lot of credibility
>>>with me on this one.  I was fully expecting a full-hour show, and was quite
>>>surprised it ended when it did.
>
>What!  In the UK it was a good 15 minutes longer.

I know that the show was scheduled for an hour-long slot on ITV's Granada,
from 10.05 to 11.05 on 14 June 1992...but isn't Granada a commercial
station and doesn't that account for the apparent "missing" footage?
Or am I mistaken about this?

On the other hand I noticed that the South Bank Show, through which
"The Making of Sgt Pepper" aired, lists a different editor from the
copy that aired just last Sunday here in the States on the Disney
Channel. British attribution is Melvyn Bragg (that's what it says
in "Radio Times"...which someone very kindly sent to me). But the
American airing included no such person in the credits, listing
one Tony Webb as editor. Was there some surreptitious cutting going
on?
--
"These four boys, who are superb instrumentalists, also
produce some exciting and pulsating vocals."
--------------------------------------------------------
saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: ingrcfb@bnr.ca (Charles Board)
Subject: Re: Ono and rotary phones
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 14:58:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.212448.3463@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams) writes:
|> 
|> > i don't want to get involved in a Yoko flamefest and no  but the ONOBOX  
|> ticks me off.
|> >  Compare it to the LENNON box. John gets 4
|> You make it sound like it was Yoko's fault that John's box set was only 4  
|> CD's....
|> I doubt that the fact that Lennon only got a 4CD box set has anything to  
|> do with Ono (although anythings possible)...By the way, I do like some of  
|> Yoko's music, just not on John's albums....

i was under the impression that all "john releases" had to be approved by Yoko
since his death. Surely, she approved the 4-disc set. And surely she could have
brought the same pressure to bear to make it a 6 disc set that she did for HER box...
or do you really think there's a record exec out there that considers Yoko more
marketable than John:)

|> 
|> Also, I do remember the sound of rotary phones (we still have them back  
|> home in Southeast Indiana) and I'd hardly consider myself an old  
|> rmb'er....wasn't even born until after the breakup (sob)....Come Together  
|> does not remind me of rotary phones.
|> 
|> Article 3: 
|> Does anyone have any suggestions for Beatle Poll 3....I'm looking for a  
|> few good yes/no or multiple choice questions or perhaps a question about  
|> Revolver....or maybe a question about Beatles cover versions  of others  
|> songs (does anyone have a list of these?) ...and I don't mean cover  
|> versions of Beatles songs....although this might be interesting too....
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> Steven R. Williams
|> 
|> 
|> -williasr@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
|> ------------------------------------------------------
|> "I don't understand how I got delayed, I should be sailing today on the  
|> liner...was kicked in the *** on a dock of Chang-Sei,(it's) no way for a  
|> man to see China...."
Organization: Junior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:05:05 -0400 
From: "Francis W. Starr, II" <fs13+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Documents boots

I saw a series of bootlegs I am unfamiliar with this weekend.. It was
called Documents, with at least 4 or 5 different volumes.  Each on had a
variety of tracks covering the entire Beatles era, like the Ultra Rare
discs.  It appeared to have about as many track as the Unsurpassed
Masters series.

My question is:
anybody familiar with this series.  If so, is the quality compotable to
that found on Swingin' Pig and Yellow Dog?
Any info is appreciated.

Thanks
Francis
From: jbeer@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jason R. Beerhalter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Outtake CD
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:37:38 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


 There was someone that wrote in that they had found an outtake CD in
 Yugoslavia with tracks from Flowers in the Dirt and Tripping the Live
 Fantastic. His name was Kent Roessler and I ask that he please contact me!!!

 Thanks,
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Onobox question
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:26:46 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Sep30.184405.18018@pbs.org> bjones@pbs.org writes:
>
>And how exactly do you determine someone's status as a musician? Do you
>use record sales or the amount of publicity they are getting as a
>criterion? I would think that to be called a musician (just like in any
>other profession) a person should at the very least have acquired (or be
>born with, as the case may be) a certain level of basic ability, like
>being able to hit the notes most of the time - a skill that so far Yoko
>has failed to demonstrate.
>

Fact:  

Yoko was a trained musician, and a skilled pianist. 

Opinion: 

If you don't like her vocals, too bad.  I personally hate most of her music
as well.  But I also hate Billy Joel and The New Kids On The Block, and 
some people call them musicians.  :-)

My Conclusion:

Nobody has the right to determine someone else's status as a musician.  If
I call myself a musican, I am.  I may stink, but that's entirely irrelevant.

Obligatory Beatles Comment(Rhetorical):

Was John Lennon *not* a musican when he couldn't tune his own guitar?




-- 
Bruce Dumes			| "Bruce is too obsessed with the Beatles"   |
Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
bad@sw.stratus.com              
508-460-2816                    
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jbeer@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jason R. Beerhalter)
Subject: Re: remakes
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:25:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.005315.14361@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I don't know exactly why, but I always hate hearing remakes of
>Beatles' songs. Maybe it's because there's no need to mess with
>perfection. What do you all think about them? (For example, I
>_hated_ Debbie Gibson's (or was it Tiffany's) I saw _Him_ Standing
>There. (I guess I hated her anyway, tho.) :-)
>
>-Scott

I have to confess that I love Tiffany's version of I Saw Her Standing There
and would say that was one of the things that sparked my interest in the
Beatles. Hey, if her remake can make a Beatlemaniac out of someone, it can't
be all bad, right?
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: new stereo EP (was new CD single)
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:06:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep29.194706.16986@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) writes:
>>The original vinyl EP Collection 
>>included a bonus EP which included stereo versions of "This Boy," "The Inner 
>>Light," "She's A Woman," and "Baby, You're A Rich Man," but all of these have
>>since seen stereo release on the Past Masters volumes.
>Wait-a-minute! BYARM was NOT on Past Masters! (and I don't remember
>TIL being stereo, but I don't have the disc here to check, so I could
>easily be wrong)
BYARM is in stereo on the _Magical Mystery Tour_ disc (and the EP, which
also has the mono mix).
TIL is in stereo on _Past Masters_ (using, I presume, the version that
was originally released on the bonus vinyl EP; again, I presume this is
the mix used on the bonus EP/CD as well ...)

>Thanks out of advance...	I-)
You're welcome ... :)

-- 
( David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu or prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu   )
( "I got a head full of ideas that're drivin' me insane"                    )
(  -Bob Dylan, "Maggie's Farm"                                              )
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: lygariba@unix.amherst.edu (LISA YVONNE GARIBAY)
Subject: RE: Results of Poll #2
Summary:  About those results I posted..
Keywords: Poll #2 confusion
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:07:10 GMT

I just wanted to let you all know that the reason that I posted the results
of Beatles Poll #2 is because Steven, the creator and wonderous conductor
of the famed polls, was having major computer troubles and was unable to
post the results himself.  So, I did it for him.  If you have ANY questions,
comments, answers or li'l bits o' interesting information, please send them
to *HIM* at:
     williasr@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

If, of course, there is anything that the Wonder Frod can help you with, 
feel free to contact me at:
     lygaribay@amherst.edu

Thank you very much.  Just thought I had to clear that up.

Lisa :)
the wonder frod.

"This is my story, both humble and true
 Tear it to pieces and mend it with glue."  --John W. O. Lennon


Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: cp78047@csie.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Re: Beatles medley? (was NEW BEATLES RECORDINGS)
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:00:06 GMT


I have a tape published by Mercury "GREATEST STARS ON 45"
There is a Beatles Medley in it. But I remember there is 
another song like "Michell"...


What is MOD file ?
From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: "The Making of Sgt. Pepper" on Disney
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:55:35 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY


 
OK, who saw THE Beatle event of the season last night on Disney?  Comments?
 
George Martin's playing of tracks and isolating certain instruments/vocals
were most interesting.  And I especially loved the versions of SFF with
George's slide, John's acoustic, and the mellotron.  Are these versions
available on bootleg?
 
Here's a thought.  Wouldn't it be grand if 4-track cassettes were available
to play back Pepper like George Martin did.  Just take your 4-track
cassette recorder--like a Tascam or Fostex--and be able to listen to Pepper
in parts.
 
I was also amazed at how good the isolated voices sounded.  I've heard
isolated voices before and usually there are always some sharp and flat
parts on them.
 
By the way, next Sunday, Disney will show "Magical Mystery Tour."  I think
October--and November--will have more Beatles programming on Disney.
 
Mike James (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
From: erobinette@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatle "beeps"
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:48:52 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

In article <BvAEyt.A2B@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, dschleef@sage.cc.purdue.edu (David Schleef, Esq.) writes:
> In article <lc646iINNaq7@news.bbn.com> rgranvil@bbn.com (Rob Granville) writes:
>>I think it's time to start a frivolous thread.
>>
>>My MAC LC came with a microphone which, among other things, allows me to
>>record my own "beep" sounds --- the sound the MAC makes when it wants to
>>alert the user for whatever reason, but usually because of a user error.
>>I immediately recorded two sounds (from the cds --- NOT my own
>>renditions):
>>	I'm a loser...
>>	I've got blisters on my fingers!
>>
>>So the question is what other "beeps" should/would loyal rmbers use? Keep
>>in mind it should be short and probably be in response to an error. Here
>>are a few more ideas:
>>	Help!
>>	Oh dear, what can I do?
>>	I'm crying
>>	No, no, no
>>  Hold it!
>>	I'm down
>>
>>I've got more ideas, but I want to give others a chance.
>>
>>Rob Granville
> 
> ones that I've had on my computer:
> 
>    Queen says no to pot smoking FBI members.
>    Number 9
>    Thankyou-thankyou (Little Caesars guy)
>    uoyknaht-uoyknahT (same, backwards)
>    Mean Mr. Mustard (I didn't get anything done waiting for that...)
>    the opening chord for Her Majesty
>    Part of the end chord for A day in the life
>    Laughter at the end of Within you without you
>    opening guitar from a day in the life
>    the opening chord from Imagine
> 
> dave.
>I have one of these programs in my school paper office. Mine include:
The "Revolution scream" (Lennon agony)
The opening chord to "A Hard Day's Night" (Gm7add11)
The feedback from "I Feel Fine" (Fine Feedback)
and of course "Yeah Yeah Yeah" (affirmative x 3). 
Parenthesis indicate titles I gave the beeps.
Eric R.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Subject: Re: Linda and Paul in "Vanity Fair"
Keywords: Linda and Paul
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:03:54 GMT

In article <Bv573o.548@unix.amherst.edu> lygariba@unix.amherst.edu (LISA YVONNE GARIBAY) writes:
>
>       Hello, everyone!  The Wonder Frod is back, even though anyone who
>might know who I am doens't seem to be on the net anymore...Hmmm...
>

     oh come on now, lisa...i remember you!!  and I'm back, too, from
     my 3-month romp as a disneyland employee.  good to have you back.

     let the games begin.


-Denise
*******
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: nichols@osric.cs.odu.edu (teresa nichols)
Subject: Beatles influences
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:53:26 GMT


Does anyone know how many groups/singers/etc named the Beatles as an influence
on their music? Is it only rock music, or have there been any country/jazz/etc.
groups/singers that named them? I believe I've only heard rock.

Teresa
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody )
Subject: Re: Welcome to r.m.b.
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:35:13 GMT

dlm3@quads.uchicago.edu (saki) writes:

>	Also available are the articles above, if you prefer FTP.

>	Use "ftp" as follows:
>		ftp bobcat.bbn.com
>		(user name) anonymous
>		(password) your-name    [please? Not just "guest", etc.]
>		cd beatles
>		cd noteson   [for Alan's notes]  or cd welcome [ for saki's]
>		dir
>		get <whatever you want>


I just tried this and failed.  I was able to log on, with my
name as password but was not allowed to cd beatles.  What did I
do wrong?
From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: new stereo EP (was new CD single)
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:05:05 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) writes:

>How many people think that EMI will sneak in a 5" CD single of "Leave My
>Kitten Alone" b/w some other obscure gem?  Of course this bonus single will 
>only be availabe with the boxed set.  If they follow the pricing of the EP 
>set, that will probably put the single set at around $200. 

I just read in CD Review the other day that the EP collection
had a "bonus" EP featuring several song in Stereo for the first
time (on CD ? or ever, I don't recall).  I'm dying of curiosity
because they neglected to mention *which* songs these were!!!!

Info, please...

		James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: douglas@wpi.WPI.EDU (Douglas C White)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Making of Sargent Pepper
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:25:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Could someone please post the time and dates when
The Making of Sargent Pepper will be shown again?

	Thanks,
		-Doug
-- 
Douglas White                         douglas@wpi.wpi.edu
Dept. of Chem. Eng.                   
WPI
From: greg@irl.ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles imitators
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:43:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Oct5.174336.22738
Reply-To: orear@ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear)
Organization: Industrial Research Lab - Univ. of Florida

I know 1964 played in Gainesville before, but that was several years ago.
This past Friday I went to see Yesterday as the Beatles.  Two of them were
supposedly from Beatlemania.  They did a show in two sets, one in Beat suits,
the other in Pepper suits.  The first part was pretty good.  The "Paul" did a
good job, both visually and musically.  Since I'm familiar with quite a bit of
the live material (both official and otherwise), some of the stage banter was
familiar to me.  One remark that turned out to be a big "open mouth, insert
foot" was where "John" made some comment about listening to Guns and Roses.
"Paul" responded that "John" shouldn't be talking about guns.  The audience
hissed.  The Pepper set was OK, especially good drumming from "Ringo", but
they screwed mightily with chronology: they segued from the first half of
"A Day In The Life" straight into "Day Tripper".  Eh?!  It was not well
attended either.  At least I got in free (on the Beatles' guest list!).
--
Greg O'Rear (orear@ise.ufl.edu)
Industrial and Systems Engineering, University of Florida
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: takamay@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Yui Takamatsu)
Subject: Wings ' boots
Keywords: Wings' boots
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:27:58 GMT

Are there any boots of early Wings touring the colleges? I've never seen  
boots of the college tour.  Also, are there any boots of the 1979 tour?  
Are there Kampuchea boots? I'd love to hear the live version of  
"Rockestra's theme".  Is the sound quality good on these boots?  Usually  
these old live boots are audience taped and they SUCK.  
Thank you very much.
From: marco@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (John Perry)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatle MOD's
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:15:36 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

I can't think of a a better place to ask this, so:

Does anyone have any MOD files of songs by the Beatles?

Thanks.

--- (John Perry) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
E-mail: marco@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Subject: Re: THRILLINGTON
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:12:37 GMT

In article <717832871.0@selene.FidoNet.Org>
Val.Thomas@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Val Thomas) writes:

> I obtained a copy of Thrillington at Beatlefest in Chicago 2 years
> ago.  It was put out by Goblin Records CD 3005.  It states made in
> Austrailia.  The address of the company is 179 George Wharf Road;
> Sydney NWS 2010.

A bootleg of course.  Made in Australia?  Yeah right.

>1-15  Bring To Ew By Ram (Promo Spots for Ram LP)

This was a DJ promo record.

The rest really is from Thrillington (I suppose!) except--

>28-35  Family Way Soundtrack

...which is presumably a major part of that (which is more than 8
tracks, I think).

--Joe Brennan
From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: McCartney II CD bonus tracks
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:00:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Sep29.160028.11675
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>Not to pick nits, but I have seen several CD copies of McCartney II in stores
>with "Check my Machine" and "Secret Friend" (possibly another, I don't recall
>and don't have the CD, *yet*).  These to songs are *not* on my vinyl copy of
>McCartney II.

I have "Check My Machine" on 45 and I think you will enjoy it if you
like the album.  It's kinda funky, kinda silly.  I think it's obvious
that he just tossed off this tune to 'check his machine' and put some
new equiptment through the paces...
(I *love* the samples!!)

I have never heard "Secret Friend", as I don't have the CD yet, either.
I think it was originally on a very limited edition 12" promo for
"Temporary Secretary". I know that it is one of the *longest* songs
he's ever recorded. (perhaps THE, but the 'dance' versions of "Goodnight
Tonight" or "No More Lonely Nights" are also in the running. I really
think SF is longer, but I don't have any reference handy, so I'm hedging.)

>While I am thinking of this album, does anyone out there besides me actually
>*like* it?  I mean, it isn't his greatest work, but I certainly don't think it
>is his worst (Wild Life fills that category rather nicely, IMHO).

I also think this is a really *fun* album.  Sure, it's no _Band on the
Run_ or _Tug of War_, but it is very infectious (well, *most* of it,
anyway) and IMHO a good 'party' album (nothing too deep, just good
stuff you can "shake your bum" to).

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Re: Welcome to r.m.b.
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 04:25:20 GMT

In article <ld17gqINNmc4@news.bbn.com> clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements) writes:
>Sorry to bother the net, but I sent a reply by email and
>it bounced with "Adam Brody :unknown QM user;"[sic] sent
>from MAILER-DAEMON@qmgate.arc.nasa.gov.
>
>In article <1992Oct5.163513.22039@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
>brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody ) writes:...

I also had trouble reaching Mr. Brody, who requested some notes.

Mr. Brody, perhaps you have another path I could use, or another
account?

--
"The Lana Sisters, clad in pink, added a welcome feminine flavour.
'Much better than those Beatles' I heard one gentleman remark."
------------------------------------------------------------------
saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: remakes or covers?
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:00:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.181848.17154@math.ucla.edu> dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:
>
>But Little Eva wasn't strictly doing a "cover"
>of Goffin/King's "Locomotion", since they'd not sung their own version.
>There *was* a cover of "Locomotion" in the seventies...oh dear, memory
>fails, some heavy-metal band.

    Not quite heavy metal, at least the one I'm thinking of.  It was
covered by Grand Funk Railroad.

Ob. Beatles content:  I missed "The Making of Sgt. Pepper" the other
night.  I didn't even remember that it was coming on then until
reading Saki's post.  On Monday.  I'll catch it next time.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
"All I need is a pint a day"
From: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (ken ficara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Onobox question
Summary: Need info from Onobox
Keywords: Yoko Ono
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:02:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

If anyone out there has the Yoko Ono boxed set (ie, you got it free as
a review copy and can't find a used CD store to buy it from you :) can
you please email me or post the musician credits to "Walking on Thin
Ice" and "Yang Yang"? Thanks.