HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho)
Subject: Re: DISRUPT 7.1 LINES
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:42:03 GMT

In article <HHT3TB15w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>> You're half right, though.  Apple is in it for the money, but not just for
>> the money. If Apple were in it just for the money, they would be making MS
>> DOS clones and would have dropped the Mac long ago.
>
>You're kidding.  Apple would *never* be able to make money selling MS-DOS
>clones.
>
>No MS-DOS user would put up with being told that he has to visit his dealer
>in person before they'll deign to sell him a computer.  No MS-DOS user would
>wait two weeks for that machine to be delivered.  No MS-DOS user would wait
>four weeks for it to be repaired.  No MS-DOS user would buy a machine

Actually, I have a friend who waited eight weeks for his 286 to get
its powersupply (the 3rd one) replced. He bought it from a local
discount outlet and took it back there since it was under warranty. But
repairs are done in Toronto, so he was told it would be about 2 weeks.
Nope. I think he had to threaten them before they located the computer
somewhere, and got it back to him. He was esp. pissed at losing all
the warranty time.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Ken Brownsberger <brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu>
Subject: [Q] How to change font in TeachText?
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:29:57 GMT

This may be a FAQ... if so, I apologize.  Anyway, I'd like to know how
to change the default font in TeachText to something other than
Geneva.  I have ResEdit, but I'm by no means an accomplished user
of it.  Can someone enlighten me?  Thanks in advance.
Email response is preferred.  - Ken B.
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From: yjc@po.cwru.edu (Jerome Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: February's batch of new Macs
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: 21 Nov 1992 21:58:27 GMT
Organization: The Tofu Society of Singapore
Distribution: world
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> >+ Macintosh LC III: Identical to the LC and LC II except for a 25MHz
> >68030 and a 32-bit data path.


Finally Apple Gets it right( or partially right)!

---
The Evil Tofu
From: matti@my.sm.luth.se (Matti Larborn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Stylewriter and Greyscale?
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:47:56 GMT
Organization: Lule} University
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In article <1992Nov17.213733.334@mksol.dseg.ti.com> niels r martin,
martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com writes:
>I know that the Stylewriter has the capability of printing greys--how???

I would also like to know more about this. I have tried different
programs, but it seems as they doesn't support this feature on the
stylewriter.

Great Works seems to at least try this, because when printing a shaded
picture (gray scale) to a StyleWriter it works and works and works
and......(for about 20 minutes or so), but finally it prints the shade as
dot graphic.

Another program doing exactly the same work does it in on or two minutes.
(I don't remember the name of this program) Neither program prints real
gray scale. This should be possible with the stylewriter!

		--Matti Larborn, Sweden
From: labdk@emory.edu (Davo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: more fun and easy questions...
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:10:27 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Okay time for questions I always thought about but never really got
around to asking...

What are the files DA handler, Laser Prep, and Appleshare Prep good
for?  Can I delete them from our already loaded up station disks?

In MS word 4.0 preferences, there are the choices of:

keep program in memory
keep file in memory

What are the pros and cons of this if you are running the program
from the server?  can either one give you faster response?  

What does the Allow backups choice do in Word?

lastly, does anyone know of a NCSA version that does not need
MacTCP (no disk space) and is multilaunch (so it can be run on a
server by more than one person at a time)

thanks to anyone who answers...  may you live to be long and never
get too many wrinkles...

davo

-- 

	
	David Kim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
From: f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: Re: Startup floppies for System 7.1
Organization: Washington State University
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:04:13 -0800

In article <1992Nov18.111650.29308@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, 
	jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) writes:
> In an effort to help eradicate an outbreak of vNir and other viruses on my
> campus, I'm trying to create a
> startup floppy that I can put Disinfectant 2.9 onto. I'm using System 7.1
> because that's what I'm running, and I know System 7 will work on all of
> the computers I'm making this for. (some LC IIs, a Classic II, etc.)
> 
> However, the "Min system for all Macs" that the installer makes takes up
> 1350, leaving 40-odd K to put other stuff on. To make matters worse,
> Disinfectant is 333K... obviously something has to give.
> Does anybody know what I can remove from the System file? Or do I have to
> bite the bullet and dig out my old 7.0.1 floppies...
>
> (btw, email responses to johnel@audrey.linfield.edu would be appreciated,

If you can ftp, then get a hold of min-system-installer-10.hqx off of
sumex. It is in info-mac/util directory. I believe it should do the
trick of reducing your minimum system by 300-600K. You need not have
the finder installed on the floppy. But rename the application you need
to run 'Finder" and the system will automatically run it on startup
(thinking that it is the finder!!).

I myself have not used min-system-installer-10.hqx yet. I simply followed
the instructions in sys7-emergency-disk.txt, which tell you what resources
you can delete from the system file. I did this for 7.0.1. and now have a
Disinfectant emergency disk. Works fine! I plan to use the min-system-
installer-10.hqx program, if and when I get 7.1, which it apparently works 
with. You can find the sys7-emergency-disk.txt file also at sumex in 
info-mac/report. I recommend getting it - it has some useful tips.

Happy hacking!
Richard.
  _\_   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
 /   \  Washington State University  
(   ) ) Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688 
 \___/  "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: warner@mtu.edu (Thumper (Nate))
Subject: increasing the max field length in HC from 30K?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:06:32 GMT

I have an HC stack that record the contents of disks, including what's in compact pro and stuffit archives.  Unfortunately, a few of my archives consist of more than 30K in info.  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to increase the max size of a field.  This would help me a lot.  Pre-Thanks!!

Nate.


		-Nate
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Nitro of Terra Nova <FrodeT@DHHalden.No>
Subject: Playing amiga mod. files in hypercard!
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Organization: ODH
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:24:04 GMT

Is there anyone out in the big world that has a solution to my problem!
I want to play mod. files in hypercard! I know there is tousands of peolpe
in the world who would like to know this!
If enybody knows it, please E-mail me!!

Nitro of Terra Nova!
Norway!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: a.hopson@trl.oz.au (Alan Hopson)
Subject: Visual Effects in Monitor Millions mode
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:12:09 GMT

Could anyone please help me with following problem I have encountered using
Hypercard 2.1?

I specified a "barn door open" visual effect for changing betwen two cards
in a stack which resulted in the following behavior under different monitor
depth settings:
   Monitor Setting       Visual Effect Observed
    256                   barn door open
    thousands             wipe down
    millions              wipe down

Can anyone explain why the visual effect is ignored when the monitor depth
is set above 8 bits?
 
This is a problem because I am working with 24-bit images under Quicktime
and would like to get the visual effects working.

System Specifications:  Mac IIfx, E-Machines 19" monitor + Futura MX video
card
                        Sys 7.0 with Tune-up, Quicktime 1.5

Thanks in advance

Alan.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de (Albrecht Hofheinz)
Subject: Loosing font information when compacting stack - HELP!
Summary: Why are all my fields reset to Geneva when I compact stack?
Keywords: font compacting 
Organization: Parrot Public BBS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:26:51 GMT

This is weird: I have a stack whith lots of fields in it that are all
set to a font derived from New York, with an ID around 500.
All was well until yesterday. Now, when I compact the stack, all fields
are set to Geneva. I have really no idea what could be the reason for
this. When I don't compact, close and open again, the original font
information is preserved.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Albrecht Hofheinz
majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jiajie Zhang)
Subject: export a sound resource from Hypercard to a plain sound file?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:30:35 GMT



Is there any way to export a sound resource from Hypercard to a plain
binary sound file that can be transferred to a PC?  Thanks in advance.

Jiajie Zhang
zhang@canyon.psy.ohio-state.edu
From: gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE C. LIN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: AppleEvent Alias
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:14:23 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Hi,

I wrote a SuperCard application where users can chat on the mac via the
AppleTalk network, but the have to go through the process of application
sharing similar to file sharing with the chooser where you would choose
the machine, then application name, and then click on "guest" & etc.

Is there anyway I can do this via an alias?

Thanx.

GL
From: roma@pe.chalmers.se (Robert Maglica)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: About.. menu item
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:13:16 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

Hi there,
Does anybody out there know how to change the About.. menu
item in the Apple menu ?

Thanks !

/Robert Maglica, Chalmers U. of Tech., Sweden
From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Importing/accessing text files
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:35:31 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <1992Nov16.155906.8559@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford) writes:
>I am looking for a way to have HyperCard access text files between 100k and
>300k in size. As I understand it, there is a 30k limit to the amount of text
>which can be put into a field. Is there any way around this? or is there any
>way to have HyperCard open the text file?
>

Yes, indeed.  The command is "open file"

eg.    open file "myFileNameWithFullPath"
       repeat
          read from file "myFileNameWithFullPath" for 20000
          if it = "" then exit repeat
          put it into IJustReadItBuffer
       end repeat
       close file "myFileNameWithFullPath"


Note:  the "read from file" command has a few different permutations,
like you could 
   read from file "whatever" until return
Check your Hypertalk reference for details.

Note 2:  when you read, it puts whatever you read into "it"  You check
for end of file by checking if "it" is empty.

As to the 30k limit, that you will have to work with.  Multiple card
fields, or continuing onto another card are one way to handle it.

Good Luck!
Jann VanOver
vanover@atc.boeing.com
       
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: d.olson@apple.com (Donald Olson)
Subject: Re: Search problems
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:50:00 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

In article <BxzEqq.78K@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler) wrote:
> 
> 
> 	When searching for the occurence of a string such as RAD 3,
> Hypercard picks out the first occurence of RAD, but doesn't seem to
> recognize the 3.  If I search for a RAD-3, it notices the 3 and will
> skip over, say RAD-4.  How can I fix this so that I don't have to put
> in a dash to get it find occurences of say RAD 3???
> 
> -- 
> -brian
> *bhostetl@ucs.indiana.edu 	  |	"Stop and breathe, close my eyes
>  bhostetl@iubacs.bitnet   	  | and smell and listen...  no more cotton
>  bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  | candy, no more band concerts..."

Try using one of the following extensions to the find commnad

find chars <text> {in field}
find word <text> {in field}
find whole <text> {in field}
find string <text> {in field}

Donald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Subject: Re: HyperCard won't let me do libraries!?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:33:12 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

In article <1992Nov17.104028.12220@waikato.ac.nz>, ldo@waikato.ac.nz
(Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) wrote:
>
> ...
> 
> But I hit a snag--namely, a bug in HyperCard. The library stack correctly
> appears in the "StacksInUse" list, but when I try invoking an external from
> that library, HyperCard just beeps at me. I can make it come right if I try
> again a second time, but it always fails that first time.

I commend you on your persistence.  I tried this quite some time ago and
just assumed it didn't work because of this problem.  I wasn't as
persistent as you were.  We'll have to see if Kevin "HyperDeity" Calhoun
has any wise words on the whys and wherefores of the issue.

Jon "Nothing useful to add" Pugh
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 11:35:15 MST
From: Hans DeBano <KGHDB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject:    Can't open Script Editor??

Any thoughts on why this might pop up all of a sudden when a
minute ago I've been happily modifying the same button script?

If I duck out of Hypercard and jump back in, it's fine (I can get
back into the Script Editor) I apologize if this is a FAQ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: lhdowney@eos.ncsu.edu (LEWIS HENRY DOWNEY)
Subject: Re: Apple Event questions
Originator: lhdowney@c00746-400wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: lhdowney@eos.ncsu.edu (LEWIS HENRY DOWNEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:25:44 GMT


I am sure this is a FAQ. But in general, is information about 
Apple Events and HyperCard available? And if so, is access to this
information generally available?

One specific question: is it possible to send the contents
of a field from or to a specific field on a specified background on a 
stack on a remote machine?

Thanks for any insights here.

Lewis Downey
From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Next HyperCard?
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:50:23 GMT
Reply-To: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Nov23.164335.15246@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, by mld8d@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Marcy Lynn Ditmore):
> I was wondering if anybody would venture to guess when the next
> and newer version of HyperCard will come out. 
                                                     ^
Not sure if you meant that as a rhetorical question (|) or not, so I'll
venture to guess that a newer version of HyperCard will come out during the
first quarter of 1993. Why then? Heck, it's just a guess. I heard a rumor
that Claris is having some problems with speed (possibly related to color
handling in 'newer version') and has requested that some of Apple's
programmers work on this (speed/color) problem(s).

Remember, I told you this was just a guess (based on rumor), so don't flame
me if I'm 'off-base', 'way-off', 'a tad-bit confused' or wrong:-)

> I am particularly interested in a color HyperCard.  Along those same
> lines, can you convert HyperCard stacks to SuperCard stacks. 
                                                      ^
Again, I'm not sure if this is a rhetorical question (|) or not. This time
I'll pass, because I really am not sure. (But I will venture to guess that
you mean it as a question, right? :-)

> I amcurrently working on a three year project and the client
> wishes to have color in the final version.  However, we are
> doing the prototype on HyperCard 2.1.  The final question is
> will the HyperCard stack that is in the black and white (2.1)
> be transferable to the color version if it comes out in the
> next 1 or 2 years.
> --

Most likely. If the product was to be called 'HyperCard', it should retain
compatibility with previous versions of the same named product. If not, it
would be appropriate to change the name of the product. As I stated above,
there will probably be a color version of HyperCard next year, but when it
will be released will depend on when Claris (Apple) get the problems
corrected.

Ventured guesses courtesy of:
Joel Callan
-- 
  /`-_                   callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
 {     }/ Joel E Callan             Hey, why do you think I have the answer?
  \   ./  2909 N. 44th Street         May you sit on the tack of success
   |___|  Milwaukee, WI  53210        and rise to the occcasion!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Open and close files in HC 2.0
From: clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:55:22 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Nov19.142547.27732@motor.physiolmotor.physiol>, 
ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard) writes:
> 
> Hi.  I'm writing a stack in which I open a file in one card, and then
> write some ASCII strings to it from some subsequent cards, then close
> it.  Trouble is, HC 2.0 seems to close the file every time it gets a
> closeCard message, so my subsequent attempts to write to it say it
> isn't open.  I don't remember this in HC1.2.  Is this some
> undocumented feature?  To get round it, I must either prevent the
> closeCard message from closing the file, or else close the file each
> time, and then reopen it.  The latter option would be fine if I could
> open it with status append, or fseek the end of file after opening it.
> Any ideas about how to implement either solution would be *most*
> welcome.

First, you do not need to close the card to you are on in order 
to fetch data from other cards; you can be on card 1 and say 
"write bg fld 1 of cd 2 to file MyFileName".

Second, in HC 2.1 (not 2.0), you can append; you say, "write 
ThisStuff to file MyFileName at EOF".

Third, I dunno why your file is being closed, sorry. Good luck! 
-- matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: nodine@lcs.mit.edu (Mark H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: increasing the max field length in HC from 30K?
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:28:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.034159.19177@mtu.edu>, warner@mtu.edu (Thumper (Nate)) writes:
|> I have an HC stack that record the contents of disks, including what's in
|> compact pro and stuffit archives.  Unfortunately, a few of my archives consist
|> of more than 30K in info.  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to
|> increase the max size of a field.  This would help me a lot.  Pre-Thanks!!

I had a stack to do exactly the same thing (it was actually 
a stack I got from someone who wrote it for floppies and 
modified to deal with larger disks).  What my script does is
put the list with all the information into a container and 
check to see if it was larger than 30K.  If not, I just put 
it into the bg field; otherwise I put the first 30K into the 
bg fld (ending on a line break, of course...), and created a 
bunch of card fields, filling each with as much text as would 
fit.  Finally, the script created a bunch ofc card radio buttons to
switch back and forth (change the visibility) between the
card field(s) and the bg field.  It wasn't the world's most
convenient thing, but it did work surprisingly well.  My 
removable cartridges were only 10M, so I never needed more than
3 pages.  If you are having much larger removables than that,
you probably want to think about a better interface than
radio buttons to switch between pages.

It's also nice to put something in the idle handler so that
if you do a "find" and it comes up in a field that's not visible,
that it makes it visible for you.

Have fun!

	--Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: cinnibar@netcom.com (Jeff Wood)
Subject: Re: Importing/accessing text files
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:34:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.155906.8559@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> crawford@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (James E Crawford) writes:
>I am looking for a way to have HyperCard access text files between 100k and
>300k in size. As I understand it, there is a 30k limit to the amount of text
>which can be put into a field. Is there any way around this? or is there any
>way to have HyperCard open the text file?
>

The 30K limit is not on the size of the file you can open, but rather on the
amount of data  you may have in any one given container.  The normal best bet
for these large text files is cumbersome but read it in line-by-line..
processing as you go.  If you really feel strange, start creating fields like
array elements. :)  "Text 1" "Text 2" "Text 3"...etc.  You'll have to do some
fancy footwork, and you'll pretty much never be able to display it in a single
field...but it does get the info into the stack.

Are you sure you need the info in the stack, by the way?  You could just scan
through the file for the information you seek, which is probably much less than
30K, and only read in that much of the text file.  If you have records,
I'm sure someone out there has an xfcn set for processing of database records.
Anyone?     Anyone?

Anyone else have other suggestions?  I'm curious if there *is* a better way.

Jeff Wood
cinnibar@netcom.com