From: matas@utkux1.utk.edu (04464PMS)
Newsgroups: sci.physics
Subject: re: mass definition in particle physics
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:21:26 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee


   
          Seoktae,
    I have developed a new idea.
I decided to throw some concepts out and
see how they were received. 

    Actually I was trying to figure out how light was propogated. When I
came up with a theory, everything else fell into place.

      my arguments:

            1.       light expands isotropically (large and small scale)
                     space expands isotropically (large scale)  
                            light is mathematically modelled as an
                             expanding sphere with a radial velocity C

            2.       according to Noerdlinger and Petrosian 
                     Astrophysical Journal,168:1-9,1971 August 15 
                     pg. 2  'In a universe where most of the energy is
                     in particles with zero rest mass, clusters would
                     expand essentially with the universe.'

         assuming zero mass particles do not accelerate they would be
        instantly propelled to the maximum speed, or the speed of light,
        which can be derived (eq. 9 in above mentioned article, insert 
        radius of the universe for <r>).

         I am assuming that hubbles constant is not a constant but has
an energy density relation with matter.....that is the whole theory, it
is the concept that the expanse is resposible for the speed of light.

  I have tried to conceptualize the ramifications of such a theory, and
that is what led to, ...mass is a resistance to the expanse ...

   SO if the universal expanse is responsible for the propogation of
light.
        what happens at the event horizon of a black hole? 
           ans. there is no expansion of space so photons don't move.
                One inch away from the horizon time would move real slow
                and if you could observe things in that reference frame
                you could measure the speed of light to be 3 times ten
                to the eight meters per second. To an out side observer
                the photon would appear not to move.(C would be C in
                                                      each time frame)

     the universal expanse drives light  but   the expanse can be slowed
and even stopped with matter or energy or better yet energy density.

    if you can make the leap of faith that space expands from every
point in space ( this is in contradiction with Gravitation, the book(actually
they reference the article by Petrosian and Noerdlinger)) you can quess
at the smallest peice of space that might expand and after a couple
small peices of space expand into each other and the combined surface
energy densities meet some critical level a new peice of expanding space
is formed.(quantum effects)

      assuming hubble's energy density relation with matter
is on some type of exponential where the expanse is not noticable when
mass is on the same order of magnitude i.e. the air in the room is
roughly the same order of magnitude as your finger or a chair, then
matter could expand and we wouldn't notice... particle accelerators
could measure the rate of expanse of an electron, it would gain mass
before it reached the speed of light.(it would expand onto itself)

  Hubble's constant perhaps could be narrowed down if the energy density
of the observed system were taken into account.

   mass represents a resistance to the expanse of space. this can
be visualized by the black hole 'warping space' 'slowing the expanse'
'stopping time' etc. take your pick. Once you come to the conclusion
that something is responsible for the 'speed' of light you can observe
light and attribute its response to the driving force behind light.

so mass can be explained as energy and its interaction with the expanse.

    hope that made sense
 aaron        matas@utkux1.utk.edu