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From: gt4957a@prism.gatech.EDU (Belletti, Allen R.)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 14400bps throuhput
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:16:11 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <oDN3RB7w165w@surfcty.com> rlm@mcgort.com writes:
>edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:

>> No, the "base rate" is somewhere around 1750 characters/second.  The
>> reason for this is that V.42 and MNP4 strip start and stop bits off
>> of the serial data stream before transmission.  Thus 14400 bits/second
>> means 14400/8 = 1800 characters/second.  The protocol overhead of
>> V.42 or MNP4 reduces this somewhat, down to 1750 or so.

>DING!  Next contestant, please...  Excuse me, but v.42 allows the
>modems to run essentially synchronously between each other.  In stripping
>start/stop bits, you no longer need to send them.  Therefore, you should
>actually see a slight performance GAIN as a result of v.42, not a 
>reduction.

If you're going to be rude about it, you might at least make the effort
to be correct.  Ed had it right.  Note that the 1800 char/sec figure was
arrived at by dividing 14400 by 8, and not by 10.  Thus, the start/stop
bit stripping has already been taken into account.  Now take into account
the v.42 protocol overhead, and I suspect you'll end up somewhere in the
low 1700's.  That seems to be the most I'm able to achieve.

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Belletti, Allen R.                  | gt4957a@prism.gatech.edu
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From: seth@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Seth Bromberger)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Hacking USR ROMS  [4.2 - 4.1]
Keywords: Supervisors.ROM.Hacks
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:24:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:

>   This is HIGHLY illegal!!!!  Why I think people who purchased a Sportster
>   for what it is, an inexpensive v.32bis modem, and had v4.1 ROMS were just
>   lucky, I think it is extremely wrong on your part to buy a Sportster
>   expressly for the purpose of using it as a DS.

Why is this illegal?  If I were to buy some software, disassemble it, and 
make a change so that it would run better (or have more functionality),
why couldn't I do that as long as I restricted the modified program to my own
personal use?

This analogy does cause some problems, I admit.  For example, modifying 
software which is normally fully functional but is crippled for distribution
within the public domain is prohibited.  But it is *expressly* prohibited
by the authors of the software, and this, I think, is what makes the
modifications illegal.  Has USR expressly forbidden modification of the ROMs?
If not, I fail to see why users who wish to modify their ROMs in order to
gain an additional benefit are breaking any sort of law (the ethical issues
aside -- it may be "wrong", as Mr. Goyal suggests, but still legal).

Please direct comments to the address below.

Seth Bromberger
seth@gradient.cis.upenn.edu

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From: mfineman@cad018..intel.com ( Mark S. Fineman )
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 14400bps throuhput
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:49:52 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

Various people have said that the modem strips the start/stop
bits and therefore only sends 8 bits/character, compared to
10 bits/character from the serial interface.  Thus, the serial
interface to modem path should be set at a higher speed than the
nominal modem speed even when no compression is being done
by the modem.

My question is:
 is there a way to specify that the serial interface uses
 less than 2 extra bits per byte? (Using normal DOS or some
 widely used UNIX.)
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: kevinb@oblivion.csd.sgi.com (Kevin Brokaw)
Subject: Re: Shunning proprietary modems (was: Re: Zoom vs Supra vs ZyXEL)
Organization: Silicon Graphics Computer Systems 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:51:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.171252.591@wstar.mixcom.com>, jpf@wstar.mixcom.com (John P. Flanagan) writes:                                                                      
|> 
|> Fair enough, but do you remember Supra's early advertisements?
|> 14,400 bps DATA?  Are We Connecting Yet?
|> 
|> I'm still waiting (month's later) for Supra to make good on that promise.
|> The latest rom upgrade will arrive ~3 weeks from now; if the Supra still
|> can't connect at 14.4k (or 12k), what would you do?  ;-)

Frankly, I only have a problem with 10 percent or so of my connections
failing at 14.4k. It was much higher (around 50 percent), until I installed
a 2nd phone line in my house, which I wired. Turns out the house wiring 
had a lot to do with the problems, albeit my V32 modem didn't seem to 
complain. Hopefully, the new rom will make it more forgiving, so that
the 10 percent or so of calls that fail now will go through as well.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gagnon@aix1.uottawa.ca (Jean-Serge Gagnon 564-7183)
Subject: Re: Dallas Fax 14.4 Pro Plus modem problems
Organization: Computing & Comm. Services, University of Ottawa
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:09:58 GMT

In article <1a7broINN5pa@gershwin.crhc.uiuc.edu> impact@crhc.uiuc.edu (Temporary Account for HP visitors) writes:
>Did anyone notice that Dallas Fax has stopped advertising in computer
>shopper.... I wonder why....

I forgot! The add I saw was in Computer Shopper of October 1992 (Canadian
Edition, don't know if it matters) on pages 788 and 789.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: dirkst@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Dirk Steinberg)
Subject: ZyXEL multi-auto with 2400 baud?
Keywords: ZyXEL
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:24:25 GMT

I have problems connecting to 2400 baud modems with my ZyXEL
1496 E, 5.01 rev. ROM. It doesn't CONNECT when set to AT&N0
(multi-auto), I manually have to set it to 2400 bps (AT&N14).
Is that behaviour normal?

BTW, does anyone know what the correct settings are for 
make/break ratio (AT&P?) and guard tone (AT&G?) in Germany?

Any clues?

Dirk
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: USR sportster conversion announcement. 
Distribution: world
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:25:42 +0000

In article <HERMIT.92Oct1123933@dastari.uucp> hermit%dastari.uucp@devon.lns.pa.us writes:
>I would be very interested to find out how modem firmware can inflict
>irreparable damage to anybody's hard drive.

>[Ob. disclaimer for the foolish: My first paragraph above is serious.

Oh, it clearly is possible, but I doubt very much it is the case here.

How it could be done is:  write a little state machine, monitoring the
characters going by (there's even a place in the code that it could be
patched in, I'm guessing: where the "+++" detection happens...) and
look for <nl>ls<nl> to detect that the user is in an interactive unix
sesison, then when you've found that, stuff a "rm -rf ~" down the line
to the machine they're connected to.

When I was a kid all the guys at the place where we worked used to have
netwars with each other on the house net - one hack at the time was
to monitor their keyboard in just this way, and whenever we detected
a particular sequence (the Acorn equivalent of ls) we'd stuff a couple
of deletes down the keyboard buffer and send another (harmless) command
instead.  It *can* be done...

I hope these idiots at USR haven't given people ideas.  If any modem
viruses turn up I suggest sueing USR for conspiracy :-)

G
From: serge.cote@synapse.isis.org (Serge Cote)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: **for sale** 14.4K USR Sportster
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: serge.cote@synapse.isis.org (Serge Cote)
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321

To: kjklopp@iastate.edu (Kenneth J Klopp)
From: serge cote@synapse.isis.org
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 18:53:24 GMT


KJ>I'm looking to sell my USR 14.4k Sportster.
KJ> v.32 w/ v.42 bis and MNP5... If your
KJ> interested, mail me at  kjklopp@iastate.edu .
KJ> I'm asking $250 obo.

If it has a Supervisor Rom version 4.1 when you type ATI7, just mention
it and you will have more buyers than you can expect...

Serge Cote
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: USR DS v.32bis 10-15% faster thoughput over the Worldblazer
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:32:05 GMT

marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin) writes:

>	Okay, now, the question is why??  I know that with my WB,
>at v32bis, I got ~1600cps using Zmodem, so the modem is capable
>of it...but are you telling me that usig Zmodem on an USR V.32bis,
>I will get higher then that yet??

Yes -- given all other conditions are the same.

>	Will changing my DTE help any?  I'm running at 38400...
>if I upped that to..hmm...what does WB do, 115xxx(?), would that

115200 baud to be exact

>help even if my feeds are running their DTE slower?  Can I

not much help at these speeds -- the high baud rates will
come in hand in ASCII transfers or transfers for non-compressed
data

>just make another line in /etc/gettydefs like I did with 38400, or
>is there something special I must do?

I am using 50 for 56700 baud, 75 is 76kbaud (the digi drivers
do this)

>	Can we steer this thread towards what we can do to
>increase our throughput instead of 'my modem is better then yours'??

that is what I am saying --- I really wish my users would get
the same throughput on all my modems regardless of vendor

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: tcain@brtph87.bnr.ca (Tom Cain  WB8OUE)
Subject: Re: Caller ID
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 01:12:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.005450.23015@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> amell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew P.Mell) writes:
>In article <1aftk0INNhc@sal-sun25.usc.edu> dliao@sal-sun25.usc.edu (David Liao) writes:
>>I have a ZyXEL 1496E with caller ID.  I want to experiment the caller id
>>feature.  Unfortunately, the manual doesn't provide any information on it.
>>Do I need get caller id service from the telephone company?  or the caller
>>id works without the service?  
>
>I believe caller ID is activated with AT#CID=1
>(0 for off and 2 for extended info)
>
interestingly, i find that my zoom v.32bis modem (1.00 rom) accepts the #CID
commands.  we don't have iclid here in mayberry to test it tho...  i wonder
if #CID comes in some generic firmware from rockwell??
tc 


-- 
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disclaimer: i don't speak for nobody!
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: USRobotics dual 14.4 upgradable to v.fast?
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:37:57 GMT

ree88132@zach.fit.edu (Keith Ledig) writes:

>can my USRobotics dual standard (that is v.32bis, 14.4 HST
>large footprint model) be upgraded to v.fast?

No.

>I know the newer ones can, but how about the older ones?

No.

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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:14560 comp.sys.mac.comm:9708
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Shunning proprietary modems (was: Re: Zoom vs Supra v
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:48:41 GMT

Eric S Johansson writes
> I get only one site in 10 to connect at V.32bis speeds.  I suspected my
> house wiring and so I ran 30ft of silver satin to the NI on the outside of
> my house and it made no difference.  The only time I had any luck was when
> I brought my modem into work and used it via the PBX. Then most of my
> connections worked. 

If it's the same modem with the same settings, this tells me that the problem  
lies in your home phone lines and NI on the outside of your house.  Simply  
because the same modem with the same settings worked when you brought it to a  
completely different phone wiring means that the thing that changed is what  
caused the difference; the phone lines changed, hence they caused the problems.

> I am highly annoyed.

Sounds to me like you should be annoyed at your phone cabling and NI, not the  
Zoom modem.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan)
Subject: Looking for 64Kbps mux's
Reply-To: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 19:10:29 GMT

1) I don't know if this is the right place to ask. If not, please let me know
   where to look.

2) We require:

	3 sync/async RS232/422 inputs:  1 2400 bps
					1 2400/9600 bps
					1 64k bps

	1 sync 64 kbps rs232/422 output

	The priority is probably that the lowest speed will need highest priority,
	but programmable is probably best.

	These are going to be used to multiplex data to/from UHF/SHF satcom
        modems.

3) What companies make these thing. Addresses, Phone numbers and contact names
   greatly appreciated.

4) I will post a summary

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: huntting@advtech.uswest.com (Brad Huntting)
Subject: Re: INTEL Flame
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:59:13 GMT

In article <01GP5N0GIFOI00307G@EKU.BITNET> ACSWILEY@EKU.BITNET ("What, me worry?") writes:
>I just purchased a INTEL 400 SatisFAXtion internal FAX/MODEM. Anyway
>I plugged it in, started loading the software and about half way
>through the software installation POOFF!! there was smoke and fire
>coming from a component on the upper left hand corner of the board.

I'm shure this was mostly just bad luck.  I guess nobody burns in
boards these days.  On the other hand, there's an old saying which
says:

	"Life is to short to waste debugging Intel parts."
				-- /usr/games/fortune


brad

#include <corporate/disclamers.h>
From: hughesk@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Kirby W. Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: FAQ -- define v.32, v.42, etc.
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:04:19 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Oct3.170430.6528@telebit.com> bair@telebit.com (Scott Bair) writes:
>In article <717037184snx@n5ial.chi.il.us> jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham) writes:
>>In article <716444686snx@dcthree.alisa.com> denny@dcthree.alisa.com writes:
>> [much quoted stuff was here]
>>
>>9600 baud.  likewise, V.32bis is a modulation scheme that operates
>>at 14,400 bps (fallback to 12,000 bps, 9600 bps, 7200 bps, and 4800 bps).

I just want to get this straight...  :)  If I buy a v.32bis modem, I don't
also need v.32 to talk to 9600 bps modems?  (v.32 modems I guess)

>
>>
>Scott Bair
>Systems Engineer
>Telebit Corporation
>bair@telebit.com
>>

Kirby Hughes
hughesk@gas.uug.arizona.edu
(Any suggestions for low cost v.32bis v.42 v.42bis with 16550A appreciated)
From: det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Call waiting and TrailBlazer+
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:25:27 GMT
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I have a TrailBlazer Plus hooked up to my voice line and a WB hooked up
to my data line.  I *want* call waiting to drop the carrier immediately
on the TB+ so that a voice call can be answered by either myself or my
answering machine.  How do i do this?  Currently, if my voice line is
being used by the TB+ and another call comes in, the TB+ retrains after
each tone generated by the call waiting and simply carries on.  Very
comendable, but not what i want in this case.  There is a register for
carrier loss time, but that seems to only have an effect on slow
connections, i.e., non-PEP.  How do i do this for PEP mode?  Here are my
register settings:

E0 F1 M0 Q5 T V1 W0 X3 Y0 &P0 &T4     Version BC7.00
S00=001 S01=000 S02=043 S03=013 S04=010 S05=008 S06=002 S07=040 S08=002 S09=006
S10=007 S11:060 S12=050 S18=000 S25=005 S26=000 S38=000 
S41=000 S45=000 S47=004 S48:001 S49=000 
S50=000 S51:005 S52:002 S54:003 S55:003 S56=017 S57=019 S58:002 S59=000 
S61=150 S62=003 S63=001 S64:001 S65=000 S66:001 S67=000 S68=255 S69=000 
S90=000 S91=000 S92=000 S94=001 S95:002 S96=001 S97:001 S98=003 
S100=000 S101=000 S102=000 S104=000 S105=001 S106:001 S107=020 
S110:001 S111:030 S112=001 
S121=000 S130:003 S131:001 
S150=000 S151=004 S152=001 S153=001 S154=000 S155=000 S157=000 S158=000 
S160=010 S161=020 S162=002 S163=003 S164=007 S169=000 S255=000 
OK

Please reply to det@hawkmoon.mn.org

derek
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Subject: Re: USR DS v.32bis 10-15% faster thoughput over the Worldblazer
Reply-To: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Organization: Agnus' new home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:11:42 GMT

In article <BvKCCC.3GB@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> Since most of my transfers are with uucp I am most concerned about
> uucp throughput with the WB using v.32bis against the USR v.32bis.
>
> I just scanned my logs -- 1100-1200 cps using v.32bis on the WB
> against 1420-1450 cps on the USR v.32bis for yesterdays calls
> (again using uucp-g).
>
> Call after call -- v.32bis throughput with the WB is slower than
> the USR V.32bis.

There must be something wrong ... I have a NeXTstation running Taylor
UUCP 1.03 with a WorldBlazer connected. On the other side, there is a
Amiga 2500/30 (MC68030@25MHz) running Dillon's AmigaUUCP with a Supra
V.32bis fax modem connected. Without doing something special, we
normally get about >1600 cps (using UUCP g protocol.)

Look at my daily statistic (one line shows one day; one call each day)

   Bytes            Bytes   Bytes                         #Files
   Total  Time        Out      In  #Calls     Costs      Out  In  CPS Fail
 1317274  0:13:38 1292993   24281  0  1 $   0.27    6.55  11   7 1608   0
  804557  0:08:32  773377   31180  0  1 $   0.17    6.72  13   6 1566   0
  244629  0:02:46  237373    7256  0  1 $   0.06    6.78   9   4 1458   0
   81210  0:01:03   71796    9414  0  1 $   0.02    6.80  10   4 1253   0
 1852770  0:19:10 1781541   71229  0  1 $   0.38    0.38  16   6 1609   0
 1376411  0:14:11 1370322    6089  0  1 $   0.28    0.66  10   2 1614   0
  747780  0:07:43  680156   67624  0  1 $   0.15    0.81   7   3 1611   0
 1130468  0:11:39 1058916   71552  0  1 $   0.23    1.04   8   6 1613   0
 1130468  0:11:39 1058916   71552  0  1 $   0.23    1.04   8   6 1613   0

Matthias
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZOOM at Low speed non-negotiation
From: booth@lub001.lamar.edu (John Booth)
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:19:27 +1700
Organization: Office of Telecommunications
Keywords: ZOOM 

I just purchased a ZOOM VXV32. I attempted to call a low speed (2400) baud
number on campus just to check the normal operation of the modem.

I am using SmartTerm 240 and when I connect I am turning off negotiation and 
forcing the speed at 2400. The first few lines of text are fine. Then I get 
the greek "theta" character preceding each line. Using PROCOMM I get the 1st 
character of everyline chopped off. 

Any ideas?

John Booth
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: David Ruggiero <osiris@halcyon.com>
Subject: Can you enlighten me re: wireless modems?
Originator: osiris@halcyon.com
Reply-To: osiris@halcyon.halcyon.com (David Ruggiero)
Organization: [none - why fight entropy?]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:15:39 GMT

A customer has brought up the need for 'roving' data entry on
their warehouse floor (for inventory, stock checking, and
picking orders). The classic way to solve this need is by using
expensive little hand-held buffer units (the kind you see in
a grocery store, for example; Intermec is the leading brand).
These have the drawback of being 'dumb' and requiring an
upload/download cycle to send and later receive the data they
contain. Messy and difficult in these circumstances.

The other alternative is to use 'dumb' terminals (or cheap
PCs) on carts, connected full-time to the main system through some sort
of non-cabled connection...i.e., a wireless modem. So: Do such beasties
exist? Are they incredibly expensive? Unreliable? Prone to data
errors? We're talking only about a maximum distance of 100' here,
and with a little more work this could be made entirely line-of-sight
(by mounting the fixed tranceiver on the warehouse ceiling).

Any and all information/experience/knowledge/recommendations of brands
and suppliers would be welcomed and appreciated. I will post a summary
of any email I receive to this group.

Thanks!

-- 
David Ruggiero  (osiris@halcyon.com)      Seattle, WA
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: geo@netcom.com (George Pontis)
Subject: Supra V.32bis: BREAK, or not ?
Keywords: Supra V.32 break
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:50:07 GMT

Folks,
Can a Supra V.32bis data/fax modem send a serial BREAK ? There's been various
postings on the subject, but it's not clear to me if it can or not.
A definitive answer would be appreciated.
From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR sportster conversion announcement.
Date: 4 Oct 92 07:59:10 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> I still think USR is talking out of their ass on this, however.  It's
> a short step from "this could happen" to "this is happening."

I disagree. If I remember correctly, USR wrote "that can cause damage", not "
that will cause damage". That's the difference. If there's even a 0.00001% 
chance that a hacked ROM might damage the hard drive, then USR has the right 
to warn users about it, no question about that. I think it makes no sense to 
bash USR for warning us about this risk!

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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