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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: LNH - More of the Master Plan!!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:51:03 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Crossover Queen wrung her hands in victory.  "At last, the Ultimate
Crossover will take place!  No one can stop me!"
   "But, mistress," Royalty King whined, "what _is_ the Ultimate
Crossover?"
   "Fool!  Imagine if you will, all the known worlds of the net.
continuum exist inside a computer!  The one known as r.a.c.Earth is
slated for destruction in but a few short weeks!"
  "B-b-but, mistress, won't that mean we'll be destroyed?  Why do you
seek to rule a world fated for destruction?"
  She fixed her cowering minion with a glare.  "I will survive this,
cretin!  Each of the net.heroes is but an avatar, if you will, of a
person existing outside the continuum!  For each of the heroes I
slay, their body on the 'outside' becomes mine to rule!  Then, all
of reality shall be mine!  Louise Simonson shall rule the world!"

                   *  *   *   *   *   *   *

  Back in the mess the LNHers were in, a figure materialized.
"Stop this pointless bickering.  I, Background Boy, command it!"
  "Who are you?"  Cliche Dude shouted.
  "I was a founding member of the LNH."
  "Impossible," Rebel Yell said.  "We would remember you.  You must
be a retcon addition!"
  The figure played briefly with the ring on his left hand (^1).  "It
matters not.  Check your copy of the original LNH charter."
  They did - there was his name, "Background Boy", big as life, on the
bottom line.  "Okay, what is it you want?"  Cliche Dude asked.
  "Why," the figure said, "only to tell you that Captain Continuity
must go!"
  Amazed stares and glares met with this announcement.  "And why's
that?" Parking Karma Kid queried.
  "Because," the newcomer said, ripping off his mask, "we cannot be
in the same LNH!"  Beneath the mask was none other than the eye-
burning costume of... Continuity Champ!
  "Now, let's get down to saving the universe."

TO BE CONTINUED (featuring the big battle between the Continuity
   creeps and the massacre of the LNH by Crossover Queen)...

  ^1 - C'mon, didn't you wonder where the Ring of Retconn was?

EXCERPT:
  Crossover Queen fixed her gaze on Rebel Yell, the most dangerous
of the LNHer's.  "Tell me," she asked, "if you were to yell in a
forest and no one else was around, would you make a noise?!"
  Yell considered this for a time, until his brain virtually short-
circuited.  He slumped to the floor, unconscious.
  Meanwhile Crossover King had not been idle.  He handed Marvel_Zombie
Boy a bill for $100 trillion for violating the copyright of a major
comics company.  MZB ran off screaming.
  "Hmm," someone mused, "wonder if he'll come back as a villain?"
  To Spelling Boy, she pointed out his sidekick, Grammer Lad, had
a misspelled name.  GL got an evil look in his eyes and began to
chase his once-friend from the Citadel, in the hopes of expunging yet
another bad speller.
  Things looked grim for the LNH...
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Sandman 42
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:06:42 GMT

"David M. Pahnos"  writes:
> >>>All of his past love-disasters have been female, but I doubt there is
> any hard 
> >>>and fast rule that Dream couldn't be bi... who's to say really except
> Gaiman 
> >>>himself.
> >>Who's to say that Dream has to be MALE all the time?
> >Damn good point...
> 
> 
> Well, considering that it is so emphasized that Desire is
> androgynous/hermaphrotic, and that all previous incarnations of Sandman
> in DC have been male, and that Daniel (surrogate son of Dream and Fury)
> is also male, Dream's maleness seems to be important in the realm of
> Earth.  Considering that Earth is also the DC magical nexus, whatever
> happens on earth is a predominant thing in the metaphysical.  Dreams
> relationship to the other endless may also form a yin/yang in some way
> that he is a yin to delight/deliriums yang etc.
> 
> just some ideas
> 
> michael j pastor iii
> guest on davids account

	Each era has a vortex.  Could the prominent magical nexus determine 
where the vortex will appear?  

	As to Dream's appearance, it depends on the viewer.  Jon J'onz, the 
Martian Manhunter, saw Dream as a flaming deity (see Preludes and Nocturns).
He appears as male because of Western cultural standards.  He is the SandMAN.
He appeared to Marco Polo as the Sandman because that was the story his mother
told him when he was a child.
	Why Dream is defined as male by our culture depends in part to Roman 
and Greek Mythology, and those cultures probably decided to make Dream male
because of his horrific aspects.  
	A better question would be: "Why is God male?"

	The diffeerence between Delirium and Dream is that one is awake and 
the other is asleep.

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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Dale Keown, and leaving The Incredible Hulk
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:02:34 GMT

In article <rawdon.715890035@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>
>Say, speaking of Todd McFarlane, did anyone notice that his pose for his
>Superman sketch in the recently-released Superman Special is essentially
>that from Action Comics #1's cover, from a different angle (and with a

Another example, IMHO, of McFarlane's "homaging" from others.(Other examples
are the Grendel/Spawn thing, and the Jose Canseco/McFarlane trading card).
Also he did a pin-up in TMNT #50(Begins the City At War story---really good).
The picture looks like his Hulk (or maybe the big rocky guy in Omega Men {seen
in Invasion #1}) with nunchuks.

-----SCAVENGER


-- 
KAHN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Kahn)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai 
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Please put Mutant threads in rec.arts.xbooks (was Re: Excalibur #54)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:55:48 GMT

In article <1685CCE0.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (mason hart) writes:
>I no longer care about anything touched by Bob Harras or Scott Lobdell,
>and so do not care to read the X-board.  Alan Davis, however, remains
>one of my favorite writers and artists, and Excalibur does not deserve
>to be included with the "x-books".  It belongs here.

Unfortunately, the definition of the newsgroup is "Marvel mutant books", not
"the Marvel mutant books that are not good"....
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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From: schissel@mace.Princeton.EDU (Eric Schissel)
Subject: Re: LNH: Death of a Hero (?)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:29:16 GMT

How about a alt.prose.collaborative?

(Don't use 'r' or 'f' or 'R' or 'F' to respond, please- i lose
this account tomorrow.)

schissel@math.cornell.edu <- only current address

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From: sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat)
Subject: Re: LNH/LNV/BoENV continued....
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 21:36:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.002211.58685@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Dyslexia was a crosseyed female who read things into everything and read 
>things out of everything.  

Note: Dyslexia is an old foe of mine, from the "Spelling Boy: the Hors-
D'oeuvre Quest" mini-series.  She's wanted by the authorities on Webster's
Planet (my home world) for crimes committed in connection with the
Their-there-they're Holocaust.  We think she may also have something to 
do with the growing prevalence of the misspelling of "Marvel" as "Marvle," 
but this doesn't really bother us much.  }8^)

Well, back to work...

>direction of the three new comers.  "See, its NOT my fault!  Its theirs!"

"newcomers" ... "it's"

>mean for his quest for imortality?  They could just cut him off with one fell

"immortality"

>was considered small potatoes.  If he could get the comsic Control writers to 

"cosmic"

>manipulate the heart strings of so many...  ROMANTIC-INUENDO!!!  But to find

"INNUENDO"

>Expand his mini "w" into wizard intime to champion justice.  Or will he

"in time"

>will it take for my envelope to get to Dave's so I can draw a retalitory

"retaliatory"

-Spelling Boy


--
   Bill Sherman      S^1 `--> S^(2n+1) -->> CP^n     sherman@math.ucla.edu
          LET ME RING THE BELL.  -Billy Crystal's privates
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From: stantbat@iastate.edu (John S Sinnott)
Subject: Re: GBG price guide batman crossword puzzle...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 02:34:21 GMT



In your analysis of the CBG x-word puzzle, you miss one point.  If you do 
get the correct answers, does it say that you will win the prize?  What if
two people get the right answers?

This is a scam.  It has appered in other places in other forms.  Here's what
happens:  You fill in ANYTHING.  Even something that is not a choice.  Mail
it in with a buck.  No matter what you put down, they will right back and
say that you got it right!  Unfortunatly, more that one person chose the 
correct answer, so you have to do a second puzzle.  If you get this one right
you are sure to win the $200.00.  With the second puzzle, there is a $5.00
entry fee.  This goes on and on, untill you get tired of sending money into 
them.  You will never get the $200.00.

-John
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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: Ren & Stimpy Comic book
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 18:04:28 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep7.002427.12329@mel.dit.csiro.au> brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
>
>In article <f5ln_0b.jrs@netcom.com>, jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>|> Westfield Comics' circular for December has the following blurb for 
>|> Ren and Stimpy #2: "(Dan Slott/Mike Kazaleh) - The deranged cat and
>                  ^^^
>Can anyone give me a pointer as to how to obtain R&S #1?

#1 is due out in October, so any comics store should have copies, although
you might want to see about reserving some. I bet this one goes fast.
-- 
John Switzer               | 50 years from now, nobody will
                           | remember Candace Bergen or Murphy
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | Brown, but every school kid will
jrs@netcom.com             | be taught about President Quayle.
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: LNH/LNV/BoENV continued....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:34:24 GMT

As Netlurker was being redistributed, Sig Lad fell unchecked into the ghetto 
that was rac.xbooks.  Frantic because his writer didn't read .xbooks and didn't
know any substantiated jokes to make at their expense, Sig Lad played a last 
chance gambit, careful to not let anyone think he was referring to Gambit.  
Immediately he began to post all sorts of odd speculative things about Cerebus 
#300, the Vertigo line and what Hero Graphics will do now that they've come out
and said Lady Arcane was a lesbian.  This attracted the immediate attention of 
Netiquette Lad, who used his net.powers to flame Sig Lad back onto racm!  
Slightly singed, Sig Lad then found it quite easy to crosspost to rac just as 
"Romantic Innuendo" was being banished.
     Meanwhile, Acton Lord began to make preparations to ensure his survival 
shoudl he be trapped in rac as the system collapsed.  Rushing to the nearest 
photocopier (as related in previous postings), he began to make copies of 
himself and hide them in inconspicuous places about the rac.groups.  For 
safety's sake, he even spirited some copies about TrekMUSE.  He then began to 
look for a digital scanner, but alas, the lab with the scanner was closed for 
the Labor Day Weekend, and even if he could find it, only Netlurker had the 
access codes!  "Aha!" shouted Acton Lord, looking up in the queue, "There he 
is!  I need only reply to Krimson Klone, include myself in the file, and enlist
his aid from there!"
     Dave Van Domelen, met the guy who created Gambit once...he described his 
original chara concept as "generic energy-manipulating mutant asshole".
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Please put Mutant threads in rec.arts.xbooks (was Re: Excalibur #54)
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:02:51 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1685CCE0.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (mason hart) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.214427.10983@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III) writes:
>  
> I no longer care about anything touched by Bob Harras or Scott Lobdell,
> and so do not care to read the X-board.  Alan Davis, however, remains
> one of my favorite writers and artists, and Excalibur does not deserve
> to be included with the "x-books".  It belongs here.

I don't care whether it deserves to or not.  People like Peter David's
work on X-FACTOR.  Is that reason enough to bring X-FACTOR out of
r.a.c.xbooks?  I SAY THEE NAY!!

The decision was made, now live with it.  And if you insist on bringing
X-books in here, expect to be flamed by Yours Truly.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Harbinger #0 reprint....
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:13:35 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Boy am i pissed! I just read today that along with the reprint of
Harbingers 1-4 will be included a free copy of #0. It will have a 
diffrent cover but contain everything else the came, i belive it 
(both the TPB and #0) will be polybagged together...
I know that this makes me very mad i was just about to cut up my
1-6 sets just to see that i can get if for six bucks a pop(from dos locos)
I belive that valiant will be reprinting ALL of the hot stuff in the future
including magnus 1-4(again),solar 1-4 X-O 1-4 and Rai 1-5 or 8.  
I know that Valiant will say that their are just trying to get the stuff
out but i personaly think that many of the reprints will flop..look
as the Solar #10 reprint my shop hasen't moved one of em yet acording
to my dealer.
	The reason for this? Their arent that many people that are buying 
Valinats out there that are JUST doing it for the story. I know i love
the art and stories but my 8 copies of harbinger #1 will attest to the 
fact that they are the most collectable things around...

-morgan
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: Death of Superman
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:25:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep12.004309.21139@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>
>8-)  Well, it all depends on who gets dropped and who gets added,
>doesn't it?  An interview in Previews with one of the Superman writers
>mentions that the JLA's new roster will be for 'DC's new rising
>stars'.  
>
>Anyone got ideas on who the "new rising stars" might be?  We can
>probably rule out anyone involved with the Titans books, and obviously
>"old-timers" like Atom, Batman, etc are probably out of the running
>too.  
>
>Oh yeah, the storyline starting in October's JLE is going to "change
>the team FOREVER" as well....
>

It's likely that the "rising stars" will be the survivors of DC's "Bloodline"
series of annuals for 1993. 

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) *  kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
Keeper of the R.S.BB FAQ, and Junior Stathead {tm} * OK, so I AM the AntiChrist.
Be kind...don't disillusion the RBI-lovers. * Net.Agent, "Doublin" David Rossing
Less widely published as Noel Steere; less likely to rampage than Gary Huckabay.
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From: lintz@buster.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz)
Subject: Re: Batman: Neil Gaiman
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:45:32 GMT

In article <ins227z.715666575@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> ins227z@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (James Della-Porta) writes:
>    A friend and I were having a discussion over who would be a good writer
>for Batman. As we both like Batman to be extremely dark, we both enjoy
>Legends of the Dark Knight more than any other title. We proposed the
>idea of Alan Moore writing for LOTDK, as he has already written for
>superman and has obviosly done some great work with Swamp Thing. However,
>we then decided that Neil Gaiman would be able to do an even better job.
>Eveyone knows Gaiman's work from Sandman, but he has also written Black
>Orchid and Miracleman for a short time, and both these titles have dark
>overtones. I think he would be able to do justice to Batman's character.

Well, in an interview Neil said he considered doing an LOTDK arc. Dave
McKean wanted to do a story arc with Gaiman so he could make enough money
to put a down payment on his house. Neil decided not to do it, because he
didn't want to do it just for the money. Neil is doing a hardcover Batman
graphic novel with, I believe, Simon Bisley doing the art. I have no idea
when its supposed to come out.

>    Another good writer, and artist would be Todd McFarlane. 

Are you serious about the writing part? When I read McFarlane's
Spiderman #1, I thought it was one of the worst books I ever
read. His writing is awful! He's not a bad artist though. Check
out his work on Batman: Year 2.

>					James.

Brian Lintz
lintz@udel.edu
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Subject: Batman TAS episode clearing house
From: gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:45:05 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University


I need the Saturday episode of part I of The Cat and the Claw.  I have all
other episode taped on SP (i.e. highest quality; 2 hours per tape), so I can 
offer superior copies of whatever you would like in return.  I cut comercials
from my copies and expect the same from anyone wanting to trade.

I am willing to act as a clearing house for the Batman Animated Series copy
requests (untill I get sick of doing so).  I won't make all the copies myself,
but I will put people in touch with others wanting to trade.

Just send me: Your computer address, a list of the episodes you have, and a
list of the episodes you need.  I'll compile it and post it to the board each
week or so.

To make it a bit simpler, and to save space use the following format for
episode titles:

Address
Have: 02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09
Need: 01

01 The Cat and the Claw part I
02 On Leather Wings
03 Heart of Ice
04 Feat of Clay part I
05 Feat of Clay part II
06 "It's Never Too Late"
07 Joker's Favor
08 The Cat and the Claw part II

I'll post next week with the list, earlier if there is a flood of replies.

G.

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From: whicken@kastor.ccsf.caltech.edu (Wendell Hicken)
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner's new ring...HUH?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:04:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.110518.9576@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>	Why did Guy get this YELLOW power ring? Does it work the same
>(on willpower) as the old green ring? I'm guessing so. Where did he 
>get the ring? How did he get the ring? WHAT IS UP WITH THIS RING?
>
In the recent "Guy Gardner Reborn" mini-series, Guy teamed up with
Lobo and stole Sinestro's old ring, which was made by the Qwardians.
It works on willpower, like GL rings, but is not immune to the color
yellow.  Guy Gardner #1 reveals that this ring needs to be recharged
occasionaly, but not how such a thing is done.

					Wendell

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From: maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Re: Grendel and Spawn
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:57:20 GMT

In article <22334@galaxy.ucr.edu> zeus@watserv.ucr.edu (Zeus) writes:
>SCAVENGER writes
>
>But then again isn't EVERY *NEW* hero a ripoff off of something else...?
>
>(some text deleted)
>
>Tell me of an idea that is entirely original, within RECENT memory!

Tales From The Beanworld.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Maguire			No, not THAT Kevin Maguire.
maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov	I'm a rocket scientist, not an artist
From: mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Batman: Neil Gaiman
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:43:46 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech

In article <1992Sep9.012223.8752@vax.oxford.ac.uk> cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>Nah. Apparently Bisley signed an exclusive contract with Tundra. That put paid
>to work for DC. I say Good Riddance after the transvestite pic of poor
>Delirium.

What happened with the Lobo's Back Series?  I knew it was a couple months 
late, but...


Partap
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: LNH - Posting of the last chapter (so far...)
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1992Sep4.145305.2214@wkuvx1.bitnet>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:53:34 GMT

Suddenly, the universe splits in two!  Earth kAtEfAn and Earth drizzt split off
from the main continuity!!!  Acton Lord acts quickly and establishes a third 
timeline in that mess, one where he is both spelled correctly and the 
interfering heroes and villains have remained banished.
     Multitasking Man, now operating in all three universes, inexplicably 
screams in pain (Cliche Dude raked him with M-60 fire in Earth-K).  Rebel Yell 
lets loose with (of course) his patented Rebel Yell and knocks Acton Lord into 
a wall.
     Meanwhile, Sig Lad is struggling to regain consciousness...slowly he 
levers up on one elbow...gets onto his knees...waveringly makes it to his 
feet...and is immediately knocked to the floor by Multitasking Man's tax forms,
which hit him like the ton of paperwork they are.  So, we can forget about a 
soul-searing "accepting the dark double into oneself" scene like in Indignity 
Wart crossovers.
     Just as Acton Lord is about to deliver the final blow to Rebel Yell with 
his totally undefined offensive powers,  the X-overmen arrive in a blur of 
angst and even more dangling plotlines, and begin firing at everyone, even 
each other (it's good for sales, y'know).
     Meanwhile, back on Earth-K and Earth-D....
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