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From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chili Peppers...(was: Colonic irrigations)
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:25:18 GMT
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA

In article <1992Jul30.162806.3204@syma.sussex.ac.uk> paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell) writes:
>From article <15866@pitt.UUCP>, by geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks):
>> 
>> I don't know whether capsaicin is effective at killing parasites or
>> not, but I eat chile because it tastes so good.
>                 ^^^^^
>
>Are you planning to eat the whole country ? While that's a potentially
>impressive feat, I don't see what connection it has with eating chilli
								 ^^^^^^
>peppers...

Ahhh, a misspelling in a spelling flame -- and in the flamed word, no less!

[If "chili" is spelled "chilli" in England, i apologize, but i doubt it.]

-dk
From: chcho@vnet.ibm.com ( C. Cho )
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:42:13 KST
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hepatis C
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

I like to know what is best for curing chronic Hepatitis C
except Interferon.
I also like to know how one is infected.
From: Terri.Hein@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Terri Hein)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: irritable bowel syndrome
Date: 11 Jul 92 06:18:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/207 - The Recovery Room, Rochester NY

does anyone have any information on irritable bowel syndrome.  I've been
 diagnosed with this and wonder if avoiding any foods or drink can eleviate the
 pain, bloat and discomfort. I am currently suffering about once a month.
 Flair ups come without any warning and don't seem to be related to anxiety
 or stress.  Any information any one has would be greatly appreciated.  I am
 currently taking donnatal for the pain.  Can anything be done to get rid of
 it??? Thanks so much. Terri


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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Colonic irrigations
Keywords: alt medicine
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:50:57 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

Speaking of sodomy, I have to tell this surgeon story.  Those
who are easily offended should hit 'n' now.









When I was a med student we had a patient who suffered a
rectal laceration.  The attending surgeon who was not known
for humanism, asked her how it happened.  She replied, "well,
doctor, my husband, he likes it that way."  Then she asked,
"So you suppose that's why we haven't been able to have any
children?"  The surgeon said, "No, I don't think that has
anything to do with it."  As soon as we left the room, he
turned to the group and said "well, now I've done my bit for
the gene pool."

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From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Subject: Re: Telephones and Doctors
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:12:55 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Jul25.185601.3922@ibmpcug.co.uk> george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.160205.21344@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>>
>>-On the other hand, if people assume all doctors are rich, then
>>-doesn't telling people you are a doctor help you meet women?
>
>Only women with bad backs and period problems.
>
>Michael

Michael, do you care to explain what you mean here?  It could sound like
you were putting women who have back problems and period problems into a
category of some kind.

AKS
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Caffeine and Migraines
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:12:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <AMT.92Jul30143114@dunvegan.linus.mitre.org> amt@linus.mitre.org (Anne Tallant) writes:
>
>I'm confused by some of the articles I've read recently on sci.med
>about caffeine and migraines.  Statements have been made that caffeine
>can bring on a migraine attack.  And yet other statements indicated
>that some of the migraine medications contain caffeine.
>
>Is this just a case of some people being sensitive to caffeine which
>brings on a migraine for them, and other people for which caffeine
>is effective in eliminating the migraine?  Could someone clarify
>this for me?
>
Some people are sensitive to caffeine.  I generally avoid giving
caffeine containing agents to migraineurs.  For example, I
give ergotamine tartarate to patients rather than cafergot.
That avoids failures in those who have trouble with caffeine.
I've never been convinced that caffeine helps except in the
case of caffeine withdrawal headaches, which are similar to migraines.



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From: asmith@tis.llnl.gov (A. Phillip Smith)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Pityriasis Rosea
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:32:08 GMT
Organization: LLNL

Over the past 5 weeks, my wife has been afflicted with several large
marks that resembled "cigarette burns" on the abdomen and neck. The
burn marks almost developed overnight, and was a frightening experience
for both of us. Subsequently, hundreds of brown raised patches and scaly
lesions formed on her back legs and face. Our doctor diagnosed the
condition as "pityriasis rosea" and said there was no treatment. Her
OBGYN diagnosed it as "tinea versicolor". A dermatologist took scrapings
and used Wood's lamp to corroborate the first diagnosis and rule out a
fungal infection. I was surprised that none of the three physicians she 
has seen (so far) have ordered any blood tests... Is anyone familiar 
with pityriasis ? This seems to be a disfiguring disease, and the doctors 
say the cause is unknown and there is no known treatment that is reliable.

I'd certainly be interested in any rececnt work in this area. We may see
other doctors. This is a very distressing condition that isn't getting any
better. At one point she had Keteconazole external treatment, and cortizone.
Nothing works. We are desperate for suggestions !

Thank You.



p.s. - She has had Chicken pox before.
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Weight/appearance of professional models; Re: Obesity...
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:11:30 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Jul17.160234.21105@cs.tulane.edu> fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann) writes:
>
>Actually, I've never noticed other men
>drooling over photos of high-fashion models.

Izzat so?  How about the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue?
Those are models, and men do certainly enjoy that issue,
or at least this one does.
>
>My impression is that most men prefer women
>who look like, say, female figure-skaters.
>These women are not particularly tall,
>neither very flat nor very busty,
>and they probably weigh more than
>many ordinary women of comparable height.

My aesthetic also runs to athletic women.  All the models are
not Twiggy, however.  Many, especially in the last 5 years,
are pretty muscular and athletic looking.

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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein)
Subject: Re: Use of term allopath
Organization: Strawman Incorporated
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:49:10 GMT

In article <15577@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzjaffe@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Rory Jaffe) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.235859.7935@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>>I did not claim alternative medicine did all of those things. I did say
>>Chinese medicine can cure asthma. Chinese herbal medicine is effective for
>>certain types of heart disease, not valvular heart disease. IT usually 
>>does not cure diabetes, but it can reduce insulin dependence. It can very
>>effectively treat many forms of arthritis. Please provide the quote 
>>where I said anything about "making joints normal".
>
>GREAT!  The world should be beating a path to the door of the person who
>can cure asthma.  Where are the studies published?  Please provide
>references.

Ah, but they are. Almost any acupuncturist (even one who isn't all
that good) can point you to some asthma patient they have cured. That's
because asthma isn't that difficult to treat with Chinese medicine. The
studies are there. THere are a number of acupuncture journals (peer-
reviewed even) available which cover report such studies. 
 
>P.S. The philosophy of science is not allopathy nor homoeopathy nor
>anything else that is merely descriptive like those two methods.
>What is important is that the theory be testable, and that the test be
>generalizable.  You have propounded some easily testable ideas:  get two
>matched groups of typical sufferers of these problems, give them either
>herbal medicine or placebo, and have blinded observers evaluate them.
>
>We have benefitted so much from scientific method that I don't think
>most people would like to abandon everything derived from that.  If you
>don't believe in scientific method, fine.  Just figure out what the
>consequences would be.  I think that thinking through that would provide
>the best endorsement of the validity of the model of thinking that is
>called science.

I agree with you. My objection is not with the scientific method itself,
although I think it is often over-emphasized. Rather it is with certain
parties who use the term "scientific medicine" as a way of defending
conventional medicine. They then attack anything other than "scientific
medicine" as quackery. With such an approach, nothing really new is
ever learned. This is anti-science.
-- 
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Robert Greenstein           What the fool cannot learn he laughs at, thinking
green@island.com            that by his laughter he shows superiority instead
                            of latent idiocy - M. Corelli
From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Telephones and Doctors
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:55:48 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul28.090454.527@aisb.ed.ac.uk. kk@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Kathleen King) writes:
.In article <1992Jul22.160205.21344@eng.umd.edu. georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
..
..On the other hand, if people assume all doctors are rich, then
..doesn't telling people you are a doctor help you meet women?
..
.
.Maybe it's different there, but most of the female doctors I know
.aren't gay....

At the risk of not appearing to be politically correct, I don't
think the original comment was meant to be sexist, that is,
assuming that all doctors are men. Rather, it was a response to a post
from a male doctor (me). I would have been a bit put off if George had
asked me if being a doctor helped me met men. Perhaps he should have
used "people of the opposite sex." Then it would have only offended
my wife!

 -km
From: roihar@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: RE: Laparoscopy & Inguinal Hernia
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:58:23 GMT
Organization: AECL RESEARCH

You might try posting a message to the endometriosis mailing list.
A LOT of these women have undergone laproscopies and most have had
some surgical removal of tissues during this procedure. The address to post
is WITSENDO@dartcms1.dartmouth.edu. I'm the moderator and I would be more
than happy to forward directly to you any replies you may get if you choose
not to join the list (I'm assuming you DON'T have endometriosis and therefore
have no interest in joining the list).
From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Colonic irrigations
Keywords: alt medicine
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:56:15 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <15806@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.020521.37791@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders) writes:
>>This has been an interesting thread.  And such amazing stories.  Is that a
>>joke about the jar of mayonnaise?!  
>
>That is no joke! I have seen the xray myself.
>
>The stories about potatoes growing in other regions of the body
>are also true. You would be amazed at what some people do.
>
> -km

I was wondering, how large was this jar of mayonnaise?  And was it still
sealed?  I mean do you think it could have been an accident, like a bag of
groceries spilling in the car or something like that? 

;-)

Thanks,  Alice
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: used to be very fat....
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:54:51 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <Bs6sEz.Iz3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mr. Mensa ) writes:

>	First, my situation. When I was a senior in high school, I weighed in
>at 315 lbs and by August of that same year, before I took off for school, I
>had dropped to about 200 lbs. Today, I weigh about 190 (I'm now a senior
>in college). I have noticed some rather peculiar changes in my health since I
>have lost weight.
>

Hmmm.  Chuck, are we up to 11% yet?

>Now I know that a slow resting heart rate is indicative of a strong heart, but
>I wonder about this given my family history. Also related to this low blood
>pressure: I have a problem of blacking out a lot. If I sit in a chair for any
>length of time and stand up, I will experience a sensation of numbness in my
>face and almost passing out. My family doctor tells me that this is the same
>thing that my grandfather had and that it is nothing to worry about...
>	Finally, I am wondering if anyone reading this has had a huge 
>weight loss like I have. I am very interested in hearing whether or not
>any such people have experienced similar problems after losing a lot of
>weight.

This is very common after losing a lot of weight and in normal young
people with low blood pressure.  As long as you don't let yourself
faint, it is not harmful.  Get up more slowly, especially from a 
crouch.


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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Summary: Amount of training or amount of knowledge
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:52:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <15851@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:

			....................

>Training is a side issue. I have no objection to cutting down on
>intern and resident hours, if the number of years of training is
>increased to make up for it. You can't learn the same amount
>working 40 hour weeks as working 80 hour weeks.

One can even raise the question as to whether one learns more in
80 hour weeks than in 40 hour weeks, or less.  

But in any case, the amount of training should be totally irrelevant.
We should not be at all interested in time served as a student or an
apprentice or whatever.  It is the knowledge and ability which is what
should be considered.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
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Newsgroups: sci.med,connect.audit
From: terry@npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert)
Subject: Re: Sex Organ Transplant - more info please
Organization: Novell NPD -- Sandy, UT
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:41:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.203355.6562@ibmpcug.co.uk> george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman) writes:
>In article <annick.712312606@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au> annick@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (Annick Ansselin) writes:
>>This has got to be a joke! For one thing, unless they were identical twins
>>(in which case the sex would be the same and the exchange impossible!)
>>the exhanged parts would be rejected without immunosuppression - for the
>>rest of their lives.
>
>
>Nah.
>
>
>Maybe they just had a good HLA match.

	Der.  It was a setup for a joke by Dennis Miller on the 27 Jul 92
Arsenio Hall show.  I don't think it was intended to be taken seriously; the
joke went something like (pardon the lack of an exact quote):

	"I heard today in the news that Chineese doctors have performed
	 the worlds first sex-organ swap operation between a man and a
	 woman... they say that if everything goes satisfactorily, the
	 next time, they'll use willing participants."

	Dennis Miller tends to get things out of places like the National
Enquirer, and then give them a peculiar bent.  This one is probably based
on the fact that "the oppressive nature of the Chineese government" has
been hitting the news again lately.  I haven't seen anything in the rational
press or heard of it being in the Enquirer, however.

	I find it extremely unlikely, given the extreme stigmata of having
children in China, that there would be any sanction for potentially fertile
transexuals, except perhaps as a deterrent to sex with people with unknown
medical history.


					Terry Lambert
					terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
---
Disclaimer:  Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of
my present or previous employers.
Xref: sparky sci.med:14760 misc.kids:19943
From: M16585@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Spider bites and children
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:37:26 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

In article <Brz7LF.578@world.std.com>
mrp@world.std.com (Marjorie R Peskin) writes:
 
>
>In article <22531@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen) writes:
>>
>>My 22 month old daughter is getting bitten up by spider bites.  The
>>doctor says that it's a common brown spider and that it is prevalent
>>right now.  We live in El Segundo (Los Angeles county).
>>
>>Melissa seems to be allergic, because she is getting very large bite
>>sores.  There is a bite mark in the middle, which is red and a lighter
>>red mark that circles out from the middle.  One is even the size of
>>a tennis ball.
>>
>>I was advised to check for red streaks that may run up her leg, and
>>for difficulty in breathing.
>>
>>She seems to get bitten when she lies on the floor at day care, while
>>sleeping.  I have told the day care provider to please put her in a
>>crib, and get her up off the floor, when she takes a nap.
>>
>>Has anyone else had this problem with spider bites?  How BIG are these
>>spiders?  Will Melissa's reaction get worse and worse after each bite
>>incident?
>
>I have this problem with spider bites.  It was the bane of my childhood
>because every summer I got sent home from camp with my eyes swollen shut,
>my lips swollen to grandiose proportions, and needing hospital intervention
>to help me breathe.  I am also allergic to every other type of insect bite,
>such as fleas, mosquitos, etc.  With the spider bites I learned as an adult
>to ALWAYS put on insect repellent before I go to bed.  Since I am pregnant,
>I can't do this, and of course I have had 2 spider bites this week, both
>in my right arm which is now swollen, and to make matters worse, Mrs Spider
>laid her eggs in my bedroom and the other night there were about 50
>baby spiders rappelling off my ceiling.  I got out the vacuum and sucked
>them up!  It felt great.
>
>I don't think there is anything you can do to prevent spider bites save
>use repellant, mosquito netting, and learn the quickest route to the
>emergency room.
>
>Marjorie	mrp@world.std.com
>
>
>>
>>Sandy
 
I don't mean for this to ba an ad, but I can't help but want others to know
of the benefits of Skin So Soft Bath Oil by AVON.  (yes, I sell it, E-mail
me if you're interested)
It is very well known throughout the military as an excellent bug repellant,
especially for mosquitoes.
 
If you don't like the oil idea, there's lotion, shower gel, and a moisturizing
stick(looks like a solid deodorant stick, but moisturizes instead). All work
 
Ellie Blackwell
From: John.Willis@p123.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Willis)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Colonic irrigations
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 09:26:00 -0500

Steve Dyer recented stated

 > In Massachusetts, "colonic irrigations" are illegal
 > except when performed
 > by an MD, which thankfully means that the practice is
 > almost extinct.

In other words, the "allopathic" profession has absorbed the competition, and
now it is eliminating it.

A State-Run Monopoly.

Thanks for another example, Steve.

John :->
From: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: myopia and contact lenses
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:07:06 GMT
Reply-To: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <7714.2A5EF33D@stjhmc.fidonet.org>, T.C.Dufresne@f63.n161.z1.fidonet.org (T C Dufresne) writes:
>*** Quoting Sandi Alexander Kwee to All ***
>SAK> Why is it that contact lenses slow down or halt the worsening of
>SAK> myopic
>SAK> vision? I've known many people who's eyes get worse every year
>SAK> and have
>SAK> to strengthen their eyeglass prescriptions, but once they get
>SAK> contact
>SAK> lenses, their eyes don't get worse and may actually improve.

>I think it MAY have something to do with the fact that a contact lens 
>is actually maintaining the physical curve of the eye, while glasses just 
>make optical corrections, and never actually make contact with the eye... 

It is not always true that "contact lenses slow down or halt the worsening
of myopic vision".  It *may* be true of some hard lenses, but is certainly
not the case with soft lenses.

DISCLAIMER - I am no doctor!  I happen to have myopia, and my (soft) contact
lenses (which I've worn for about ten years) have had no effect on the rate
of decline of my vision.

laura@tasvax.nswses.navy.mil		|   Naval Surface Warfare Center
I speak only for myself.		|   Port Hueneme, CA