HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions about '84 V-30 Magna
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:38:20

In article <foo> e3uvlb@fnma.COM (Vic) writes:
   I have an opportunity to buy a 1984 V30 Magna w/10,000k miles.
   It looks well maintained.  The "asking" price is $1,600.

   It will be for a beginner to ride for a year or two on short
   commutes and on an occasional long weekend jaunt (~500/600 mi).

   Any opinions, experience with this bike, etc.

(Sorry to post *again* about my Magna; all of you have heard about it often
enough...but `fnma.com' isn't a real Internet host, so mail wont cut it...)

The Magna is an extremely low bike, forgiving in turns, and stable as
hell.  Smooth ride.  Light frame.  All these things make it good for a
beginner.  One drawback: if your 700cc V30 is anything like the 750cc
V45, it'll scare the hell out of you as a beginner.  The 750 will dust
many similar-displacement spoutbikes on the 1/4 mile.

Reliable, but a bitch to work on.  If you plan on doing your own work,
you're getting into a bike that takes most of a day to tune.  If you
plan on taking it to a shop, get used to spending $250 or $300 for a
semi-annual service.  Treated well, they supposedly last for up to
100,000 miles or so.

The guy at Cycle City told me to always keep the valve train chattering
a little -- on this engine, the valves wear *tighter*, like on a VW,
so when it gets really quiet and seems to have just a smidgen of extra
punch, that's the time to check the valve clearances.  (at least they're
setscrews and not shims)

I dislike the fuel-light indicator system on the earlier models; I
think it's still there on the '84.  You may want to rerig it as a
conventional main/reserve fuel system.
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From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:42:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.200227.4185@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
|> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
|> >jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
|> >>bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
|> >>>
|> >>>What if you want to be seen in your bra?
|> >>
|> >>Why, are you thinking of buying one?
|> >
|> >Is yours for sale?
|> 
|> Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer.

so how much for the bra? my first offer is $1


laz
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: which is your favorite? sportmax or battleax?
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:52:20 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

porkchops & applesauce? no, sportamx & battleax.

baby needs new shoes, which do you prefer and why?

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

        mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
        Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards." -- Jerry Dunham
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: statistic question
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:25:38 GMT

> In article <JET.92Dec7102754@boxer.nas.nasa.gov>, jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
> |> 
> |> Traffic school instructor said the following the other night
> |> (paraphrased):
> |> "Average lifespan of someone who buys a high-powered sport bike is 18
> |> months.  These bikes are generally bought by single males aged 18 to
> |> 24."
> |> 
> |> Anybody have any clue where this came from?
> 
As a general response to anyone's "statistics", I make it a rule to ask them
the source, and to harass the person until they provide it or retract it.  As
to the statement above, I don't know if it's true, but if we hold people
responsible for their statistics, maybe a few will catch on!

Michael Menard
From: hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Protection for Your Bike
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

i recently bought my first bike... ZX-6. used w/ 6900 orig. mis on it.  and i
LOVE it!  so here's my dilemma.  i have only a Kryptonite lock (and the
handlebar lock of course) to keep it from falling into the wrong hands.  i'd
like more assurance.... any suggestions for good bike alarm systems?  the only
one i've read anything about is the new SCORPION system.  it's supposed to be
"the best" one out there. is this true?  any OTHER good systems?  (please
include possible limitations.)  thanks.

hiro.ruo@clemsonsc.ncr.com

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sdun@isma.demon.co.uk (Stephen Dunne)
Subject: Re: Learner Help 
Distribution: world
Organization: International Securities Market Association
Reply-To: sdun@isma.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:28:04 +0000

Get any old dog that can still get a MOT, After all I assume you'll flog it/
Bury it after you get your part 2 and buy a CBR900R :-)

Seriously it depends on your riding skill at the moment.. If you can ride at
a level sufficient for parts 1 & 2 Then I'd consider renting/borrowing a bike
just for your test. Otherwise something like a DT or a KMX should give you a
bit of leg room..

Stephen
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: Need help with wierd mirror question
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:09:46 GMT

In <1gbbn4INNlp7@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:

>In article <Bz3xC5.2Bx@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca
>(Jorg Klinger) writes:

>>  Nothing holds as tight as a good cross thread. Since I don't beleive
>>they make left hand thread taps or heli-coils I'm afraid your stuck. 

>Jorg, if "they don't make left hand thread taps", how do you
>suppose Lisa's handlebar bracket got its threads in the first
>place?
>--

>    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
>    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu


  Well... Uh... Never mind.


__
   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goldwings are darned interesting motorcycles
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:32:02 GMT
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Laszlo Nemeth (laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec16.201827.26324@ncar.ucar.edu>, jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
: |> one of those GPS boxes (now widely available in a desensitized
: |> commercial version) on my FLHS. :-)
: 
: considering who we have leading local rides this is a GOOD IDEA.
: hey can you also use those boxes to find out what time it is?

I suspect laz knows this, but just in case.  Yes, GPS receivers are
very accurate clocks.  In fact they can be used as a reference for stratum 1
time servers.  In other words they are accurate to within fractions of a
second of NBS time standard.
--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* Computing Center at Virginia Tech, not Vermont ----------------------^^     *
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From: bssbr2jre@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Learner Help
Date: 10 Dec 92 10:12:14 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology



  Can anyone reccomend a good learner bike for the U.K.?

  (125cc or less)

  which will suit someone whose 6'1''
From: lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Hog Racer?
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:56:02 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.



Hog Racer:
Harley-Davidson are developing a race bike in conjuntion with Harris Performance.
The new motor is a 998cc watercooled V-twin, probably of the traditional 45 deg.
angle, with eight valves and twin overhead cams. Cylinder heads bolt directly
to the crankcase (no separate barrels), with liners.
Connecting rods share a single crankpin; twin exhausts are of extremely large
diameter. A power output of 146bhp is rumoured for hte full race version,
though whether this figure can be compared directly with the 135bhp of World
Superbike champ Doug Polen's Ducati is uncertain.
Harley's engine is tilted back in Harris's twin-spar aluminium frame, with the
front cylinder slightly forward of vertical, to allow a short weelbase. Much of
the chassis is conventional, using Ohlins upside-down front forks and rear
monoshock. Brakes are likely to be AP Lockheads.
The racer  is likely to from the basis for future Harley Streetbikes, though
the bodywork has yet to finalised by Milwaukee. The bike was intended to debut
at this year's Daytona meeting, but is behind schedule and should now appear
in the Florida circuit next March.


PB
Jan.










--
Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
Ericsson, Cellular Design
Montreal, Canada.
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking the rear wheel. (Was: First ride in rain ...)
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:40:59 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

>
>After reading this newsgroup for a while, the consensus seems to be
>that after locking the rear wheel, it's not a good thing to release
>the brake as there's a better than even chance of high-siding.
>
>Thing is, in my ignorance I've been doing just this for a while now;
>call me lucky, but I've yet to high-side as a result. The rear
>end of the bike *always* slides out to the right, and I always
>get off the brakes and it snaps back into line. So, a question
>for the moto.fizzix wizards out there. What's the reason that
>releasing the brake *should* lead to a high-side and what's
>the reason it hasn't happened to me yet? (OK, I guess that's
>two questions)
>
>Is the danger of high-siding related to how far out of line the
>rear end gets? Speed? Even after deliberately locking the rear
>wheel I lose my nerve after starting to get sideways and can't
>force myself to stay on the brakes.
>
>To anyone who may need it: I don't recommend that you do this;
>these are just questions from my own uninformed experience.

Yeah, what gives? The only time I've ever done an emergency stop WITHOUT
locking the back wheel was on the bike test (where they fail you if either 
wheel locks - so I just made a big show of using it witout actually pressing
the pedal!). Its never come even close to getting out of control! You get to 
do a lot of of emergency stops in 20 years in Britain.

My question - how many folk have actually come to grief by locking the back,
and how many just spout the party line? The theory seems good, but the 
practice doesnt seem to bear it out.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: FZR engine transplant
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:31:47 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

i realize a technical question may be out of place in rec.moto, but here:

anyone know what year FZR1000 engines might bolt into (or close) an '88
FZR750 frame?  my service manual implies that the '87-'88 FZR1000 engine is
very similar to the 750, but nothing says for sure.

in the event that my 750 motor needs MAJOR rebuild work, i might wanna just
toss it and stick in a 1000.  especially if the blocks are the same size and
same weight.

axel
From: jack@totaltec.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Battery charging formula?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:47:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Total Tec Systems, Inc.

In article <djm.724128883@morpheus>, djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie) writes:
> 
> -- 
> --
> 
> David Maconochie

David -

  There's more intelligence in this one posting of yours than in all your
other postings combined!

Jack
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi (FSE) <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW heated grips
Keywords: diy?
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:31:54 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) writes:
>
>Is installing heated grips on my 1989 BMW R100GS a do-it-myself kind
>of thing?  The handle bars are not pre-drilled, so I'll have to drill
>two small holes on the left and one larger hole in the center.  I have
>to pull off the old grips, thread the wires through the handle bars,
>attach connections etc.... Has anyone done this?  Any hints?

Only in a general sense, as I installed the ones on the K-whiner (KRS).

The most difficult part of the job was getting the wires snaked (snuck?)
thru the bars, as the KRS bars have a 90deg welded joint in them. A
(fairly) stiff piece of wire and 25 minutes worth of patience did the
trick (of course, it would have been easier if I'd done it when the
weather was still warm. But Nooooooo.).

The other (minor) problem was getting the wires from the switch plugged
into the wiring harness under the tank. The connection is very certainly
designed not to vibrate loose. Again, a little patience and longnose pliers
did the trick.

Total time; working in half-darkness on a 20deg day: about an hour.

Go for it.
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
                            Loud Pipes Suck
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:21:09 GMT
Subject: Re: Engine ignites gas (was Re: correction on New Biker)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

> So what's the difference? Temperature, right? Any chemists in the house
> that happen to know the flash point of gas off the top of their heads?
> I've never seen it happen, and I don't know how likely it is, but I'd be
> inclined to avoid the practice. I think you'd be in more danger from a
> stray spark than engine heat. After all, the combustion chamber runs very
> hot, but it takes the spark to ignite the air-fuel mix.

Well, I'm not a chemist, but I've started my share of chemical fires. :->
The flash point is the temperature above which a spark or open flame will 
ignite the vapor from a mixture.  For gasoline, I'm sure that the flash 
point is well below room temperature.

What you want to know is the auto-ignition temperature.  This is the
temperature at which a mixture will automatically ignite without open
flames.  

Remind me to tell you about the time I almost burnt down Roosevelt
Junior high school with my biology project.  A splendid, if hazardous, 
demonstration of auto-ignition temperature for isopropyl. 

I've had people in the know tell me that the real bike explosion hazard 
hazard to watch out for is llama ranches ;-}

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcpe.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
"You can close your eyes, I've got a 12 gauge surprise waiting for you"
                  			-James Taylor
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Noise-cancelling headphones (was Re: Neat AGV helmet...)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:05:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.233731.3364@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.225625.12371@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>>[responses to my post about Sennheiser active noise-cancelling headphones]
>>
>>I haven't figured out the complete algorithm, by any means, but I sense
>>that it is relatively simple, considering the nearly non-existent
>>electronics.  It's obviously something about delaying the steady-state
>>signal for half a wavelength, so that a 180 degree out-of-phase
>>relationship is established.  Impulsive sounds are passed through.

Doesn't sound like it's all that complicated - I'd expect a 180 + 360*N
degree shift would handle it, and you'd just get short term variations....

>So that means that if Mr. Officer pulls you over and says "Oink!"
>you'll hear him, whereas if he says:
>"Oiiiinnnnnnnnkkkkkkkk" all you'll hear is: "Oiin....." as the
>headphones decide that he's noise?

Interesting experiment - have someone vocalize a sustained tone, with
no vibrato, and see what it does...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:17:04 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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	 Pardon me, perhaps I am missing the point, but why hit the kill
switch in a bad situation. You should get it under control. I
would thing the kill switch is for if the engine suddenly goes
to full throttle or something due to a stuck cable...If I am
heading towards a car that has just pulled out in front of me
the lst thing on my mind is going to be "hit the kill
switch!!!", its going to be "SHIT!!!" or "AHHHHHH". Punctuated
by a godly desire to avoid the cage...

			Ryan

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: Roasting Headnut's on a striped down bike.......
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:55:15 GMT

In <8f8kppe00iV1Q0YUU8@andrew.cmu.edu> jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam) writes:

>Hey Yeah,

>I've been working on the beast again (CB750F) and after snapping off two
>of the studs that hold the heads of the exaust onto the bike this summer
>replacing it. I decided to replace all eight this winter (well this week
>actually) and while the two I broke came out fairly easily I have been
>having a BITCH (excuse my french) of a time trying to get the other
>studs to back out. I've been using the two nuts jammed against each
>other method and well......I've basically just been jamming my nuts.

>Anybody got any secret ways, incantations, snake oils, or rituals that
>might help, If not I might have to ask J. Deeney if he could sacrafice a
>llama for me

   Heat!

  The head and not the studs.

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   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Battery charging formula?
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:54:43 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu


-- 
--

David Maconochie
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Bad BMW Drivers
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 19:48:24 GMT

In article <Bz1sy8.45y@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec9.201758.25637@b30.ingr.com> mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com ( Phil Mueller ) writes:
>
>>>In a recent thread on touring Canada/Alaska, nearly all the respondents
>>>recommended R100GS/PD.
>
>>More to the point, the pretty green and black ones, not the _other_ ones. :-)
>
>Hmm, I don't think I've seen the _pretty_ green and black P-D, do
>you know anybody that has one Bill?  :-)

(carefully searching the depths of his mind, fingers paused over the
keyboards ready to send forth the full fury of a biting retort, but one that
he knows must be understandable by anyone who does not instantly recognize
the nautural, enduring beauty of the green and black PD...he ponders.  Then
quietly smiling....) 

:-P

Ride Free,

Bill
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From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:03:01 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

Jody incautiously invites:
<> Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer.

Lisa irrelevantly interjects:
<>You guys obviously have not a clue of what a good bra goes for 

Carl flagrantly asserts:
<| I bid $5, regardless of features, for any bra actually worn by Jody within 
<| the past month which has not been damaged by fire, flood, famine, earthquake,
<| tornado, mudslide, other natural disaster, acts of civil disobedience,
<| or other damage exceeding "normal wear and tear".

Laszlo stubbornly insists:
<what he said. and my bid now stands at $6 US.  
<damn it last night it was only going to cost me
<600% less then it is today at 2:30 talk about inflation.

Shill.  Price-buster.  Inflation?  Damn, I'd pay even more for one of
those "pump" bras they build into some swimsuits, etc.

My bid is now $7.

And you're welcome for trimming down the attributions to something
resembling sane, while maintaining the flavor of the thread.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG             |"The good news is that Clinton will have to
 Olivetti North America/Spokane,WA | work hard to do worse than Bush in terms
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439            | of economic policy.  The bad news is that
 Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | he will probably manage to do so"-Ed Ipser