From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: Zeppelin Bootlegs...
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:52:19 GMT


               Led Zeppelin Tour and Bootleg Info
               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                        version Oct 1992

PART 1. INTRODUCTION
====================
Here is some info for (starting) Led Zeppelin bootleg collectors.
This is info I have gathered from the Led Zeppelin mailing list,
and two books: Godwin and Lewis, see PART 2. Both books disagree on
many tour dates. Therefore, (and for lack of inspiration) the tour
overview of PART 3 is a global one. Specific dates are usually warm up dates.
In PART 4, an overview is given on what's available from what period.
Emphasis lies on what's available on CD. Most of these are of good
to excellent quality, but you can never be sure, so always listen first!
In PART 5, the official albums are listed (not including the Remasters
and the Boxed set) and in PART 6 I have attempted to sketch which songs 
were played on what tours (not necessarily on all shows of that tour!). 
I do not claim that this overview is correct, but it will be close. 

Hope this will help to find a way through all this bootleg mess.



PART 2. RECOMMENDED BOOKS
=========================

The Illustrated Collector's Guide to Led Zeppelin by Robert Godwin.  
Kitchener, Ontario: Blue Flake Productions '84

Now in it's third edition 1990.  Contains info on individual session
work, guest appearances from 1962 - 1988, post Zep solo stuff, legit and 
black market (bootleg) videos from 1967 - 1990, the Swansong catalog,
promos and radio broadcasts, listing of every known concert date and venue,
posters, books, all albums and singles and cd's,  750 illustrations (mostly
of album covers <bootlegs>), some posters, etc..., and lastly and most
importantly, the bootlegs; 342 zeppelin bootleg lps, 65 bootleg cd's, and
solo and yardbird boots as well. Definitely a must have book, about $15.95 U.S.

Canadian address for the book:
The Illustrated Collector's Guide To Led Zeppelin
Collectors's Guide
PO Box 305
688 Brant Street, Burlington, Ontario, Canada
L7R-3Y2

*****

Led Zeppelin - A Celebration  by Dave Lewis
$19.95 (+$3.50 p + h)
available from Rick Barret 
PO Box 66262
Houston, TX  77266-6262
(canada p+h $6, overseas $8)

A new book by the author of the highly appreciated The Final Acclaim.
Very enthusiastic book about Zep. Not about the wild life on the road,
or the juicy gossip that followed Zep, but about their music and their
talents as artists. Lots of new pictures, and a track-by-track
analysis of all Zep's records! And an overview of tourdates.


PART 3. GLOBAL TOUR OVERVIEW
===========================

68 sep       Scandinavia
   nov-dec   UK
   dec-jan   USA
69 mar-apr   UK, Scandinavia
   apr-may   USA
   jun       UK
   jul-aug   USA
   oct 10    Paris
   oct 12    London
   oct-nov   USA
70 jan       UK
   feb       Scandinavia
   mar       Europe
   mar-apr   USA
   jun 20,21 Iceland 
   jun 28    Bath Festival
   jul       Germany
   aug-sep   USA
71 mar       UK
   may 3     Copenhagen
   may 10    Liverpool 
   jun-jul   Europe 
   aug-sep   USA
   sep       Japan
   nov-dec   UK
72 feb/mar   Australia
   jun/jul   USA
   oct       Japan
   nov 28,29 Montreux 
73 dec-jan   UK
   mar-apr   Europe
   may-jul   USA
75 jan 11    Rotterdam
   jan 12    Brussels 
   jan-mar   USA
   may       London
77 apr-jul   USA
79 jul 24,25 Copenhagen
   aug  4,11 Knebworth
80 jun-jul   Europe
   

PART 4. TOUR/BOOTLEG OVERVIEW
=============================
Titles refer to CD's unless indicated otherwise.

68 sep       Scandinavia
68 nov-dec   UK
69 dec-jan   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* On the disk "Fillmore West 69" from Fillmore West, San Francisco, 
  Jan 9. As long As I Have You medley and others.

69 mar-apr   UK, Scandinavia
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* "Copenhagen" March 13, "Stockholm" March 14, two great but short disks;
  "Stockholm" contains I Gotta Move, "Copenhagen" contains among others
  Train Kept-A-Rollin' and As Long As I Have You. Both can also be
  found on one disk called "Many More Early Times".
* One of the BBC recordings is the one from March 23, John Peel's
  Top Gear. Songs: You Shook Me, Comm. Br., I Can't Quit You, Dazed.
  (see below June 69)
 
69 apr-may   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* The widely available great show of this period is from Fillmore West,
  San Francisco, April 27. About 100 minutes, including an 18 minute
  As Long As I Have You Medley, a long How Many More Times, Sittin' and
  Thinkin', Train Kept-A-Rollin, Killing Floor. On the CD's
  "San Francisco 27/04/69" (2CD), "Fillmore West 1969" (2CD),
  "Zeppelin Ediface/Zeppelin Express" (2CD), and the inferior
  "Killing Floor" (1CD) "20 Years Train Kept-A-Rollin'" (2CD).

69 jun       UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  The BBC recordings from March were also broadcast in June, in
   Symonds on Sunday, June 22, but the date June 9 is also regularly
   mentioned (this was not a Sunday however).
   Another BBC recording for John Peel's Top Gear is from June 23 or 24.
   The songs were: Comm. Br., What Is.., Trav. Riv. Blues, Whole L.L.
   These sessions are easily available on CD on
   "Classics Of The Air Vol. 1", "Travelling Riverside Blues",
   "Badge Holders 1", "69 in Flames 1", "Winterland".
*  A must-have is the show from June 27, Playhouse Theatre London.
   On "White Summer", "Classics Of The Air Vol. 2", "Mess of Blues"
   and probably many others.

69 jul-aug   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  "Led Zeppelin Plays Pure Blues", Dallas Pop festival Aug 31. Also
   on lp "Don't Mess With Texas".

69 oct 10    Paris
69 oct 12    London
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* London on "Ballroom Blitz" and on "Pape Satan". First one is better,
  but still not very good quality.

69 oct-nov   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Not much available

70 jan       UK
70 feb       Scandinavia
70 mar       Europe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Not much available

70 mar-apr   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  March 21, Vancouver: Widely available bootleg "Mudslide" (CD and lp),
   also called "Pb". On the CDs "Classics Of The Air Vol. 1",
   "Zoso's Back To Rock-n-Roll", but both only partially.

70 jun 20,21 Iceland
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Warm ups, no recording known.

70 jun 28    Bath Festival
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Available on lp only.

70 jul       Germany
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Not much available, maybe nothing.

70 aug-sep   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  An excellent must is the widely available "Live On Blueberry Hill"
   2CD set, from LA Forum, Sept. 4. Some songs: Bring It On Home,
   Blueberry Hill, Good Times Bad Times, Out On The Tiles, Immigrant Song.

71 may  3    Copenhagen
71 may 10    Liverpool
71 mar       UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
*  Liverpool was a postponed date from this tour. The famous BBC
   broadcast from the Paris Theatre London, March 25 is widely available:
   "Classics Of The Air Vol. 2/3", "Communication Breakdown" (1CD),
   "Mess of Blues", "Stairway To Heaven", among others.

71 jun-jul   Europe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
*  Little is known from this tour.

71 aug-sep   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Toronto, Sept 4. On "Jennings Farm Blues".

71 sep       Japan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  "Tales of Storms", Budokan, Tokyo, Japan 9/23/71.
*  Osaka, Sept 29. Contains Tangerine and Friends(!). On the disks
   "Wild Side/World Tour" (2CD) and "Japan Tour '71".

71 nov-dec   UK
72 feb/mar   Australia
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  "Shivers 'N Shakes" (2CD), Adelaide, Feb. 19 and Melbourne, Feb. 20.

72 jun/jul    USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Some things available on lp.

72 oct       Japan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  "Dancing Days", 2CD, Tokio, Oct 2. Includes Dancing Days.
*  "Stand By Me" Osaka,  Oct 4-9. Includes songs Dancing Days and 
    Stand By Me.

72 oct 28,29 Montreux  
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Not available

73 dec-jan   UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  "Live in Stoke" (Stoke, 1/15/73)
*  "Oxford Blues" (Oxford, 1/7/73)

73 mar-apr   Europe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  The CD "April's Fools Day" claims to be from Paris, April 1, but
   Lewis says this is from Hamburg, March 21.
*  "Led Poisoning" (Vienna, 3/16/73)
*  "Essential Led" (Essen, 3/22/73)

73 may-jul   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  The Song Remains The Same is from this tour. Songs that were played
   and that are not on this album are: Black Dog, Misty Mountain Hop,
   Since I've Been Loving You, Over The Hills And Far Away, Thank You,
   Communication Breakdown, The Ocean, Heartbreaker. A widely available 
   lp is "V1/2, Live in Seattle" from May 17 (Ocean, Black Dog, Hills,
   MMHop, Since). Others are "Bonzo's Birthday Party" L.A., May 31 
   and "Three Days After", June 3 (Heartb, Ocean, Comm.Br., Thank You).
      Many great recordings are available on CD:
*  May  13, Mobile, Al. " Upwardly Mobile/Mobile Dick" (2CD)
            (Black Dog, Hills, MMHop, Since)
*  May  14, New Orleans, "Whole Lotta Rock" (2CD)
            (Black Dog, Hills, MMHop, Since, Heartb., Comm. Br.)
*  May  18, Dallas "Fractured Ribs"(1CD) or "Thunder Rock"(2CD)
            (Black Dog, Hills, MMHop, Since)
*  May  19, Fort Worth, on the discs "A Worthwhile Experience" and
            "From Boleskin To The Alamo" 
*  June  6, Chicago "Chicago 73" (Black Dog, Hills, MMHop, Since)
            also on "Dazed And Confused" (2CD)
*  July 26, Buffalo ""Misty Mountain Crop" & "Razed and Confused"
*  July 29, New York "Electric Magic" (Black Dog, Hills, MMHop, Since)
   

75 jan 11    Rotterdam
75 jan 12    Brussels 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Warm Ups. No boots known.

75 jan-mar   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  One of the most widely available and famous concerts is that from
   Dallas, March 4. On "Dallas '75" (2CD), "Over The Hills and Far Away"
   (1CD), "Trampled Underfoot" (2CD), "Live USA" (1CD), etc.
*  LA Forum, March 25. "The Revenge Of The Butterqueen/The Sex Machine
   and The Butterqueen" (2CD), contains Sex Machine.
*  Very interesting is the Minnesota 1/17/75 soundcheck. Includes
   The Wanton Song, The Rover, Night Flight and many covers! 
   On "Round and Round", "Zoso's Back To Rock-n-Roll 1.",
   and "A Tribute to Johnny Kidd and the Pirates".
*  "Electric Orgasm" (L.A. '75, 2nd show) (3CD)
*  "Psychical Graffiti" (L.A. 3/27/75, part 1)
*  "Long Beach 1975" (3CD)

75 may       London
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  The five famous Earl's Court concerts in London. Complete shows
   are available on lp. On CD, only the (best) middle part of the show
   has been released. Great long versions of Dazed and of No Quarter on
   the CD's "Rock'n'Roll" or "Earl's Court '75".

77 apr-jul   USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Anyone should have "Destroyer" (2CD) from Richfield Colisseum,
   Cleveland, Ohio, April 27. Highly recommended.
*  "Coming Back On Th Murder Stage" (2CD) from Richfield Colisseum,
   Cleveland, Ohio, April 28. 
*  "Listen To This Eddie I, II, III" (3CD). Excellent quality.
   06/21/77 The Forum, Inglewood, Ca. Complete show, over 3 hours!
*  On lp: 
   "For Badge Holders Only", LA Forum June 23
   "Alpha-Omega", Oakland July 23/24


79 jul 24,25 Copenhagen
79 aug  4,11 Knebworth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  "Melancholy Danish Pageboys", July 25, Copenhagen (2CD)
*  Knebworth 8/11/79 (2 CD)
*  Knebworth 8/4/79  (3 CD) 

80 jun-jul   Europe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*  Nearly everything from this tour is available, but all shows are
   practically identical.
   17 Dortmund  "Dinosaurs Rule" (2CD)
   18 Cologne   "A Close Shave" (2CD)
   20 Brussels  "Brussels Affair" (2CD), "Lost Horizon 2 and 3"
   21 Rotterdam "Kashmir", "Live In Rotterdam 1980"
   23 Brehmen   "Dinosaur"
   24 Hannover  "Messehalle Echoes" (2CD)
   26 Vienna
   27 Nurenburg  Only 3 songs were played. Bonzo was exhausted!
   29 Zurich    "Tour over Europe" (2CD)
   30 Frankfurt "Dinosaur / Moonlight" (2CD), "Lost Horizon 1 and 2"
                "Hotter Than The Hindenburg". Here they played Money.
   2  Mannheim  "Dinosaur Watching" (2CD)
   3  Mannheim  "Motivating Dinosaurs" (2CD)
   5  Munich    "Bonzo At Last" (from Munich or Bremen!)
   7  Berlin    "Last Stand / Final Touch" (2CD)

Several Outtakes and Rehearsals
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Hiawatha Express          (70, Band of Joy 67)
   Tangible Vandalism        (III and Physical Graffity outtakes)
   Studio Daze               (72 73 77)  
   Out Through The Back Door (?)
   In Through The Outtakes   (75 79)
 


PART 5. ALBUM OVERVIEW
======================          

1. LED ZEPPELIN                 2. LED ZEPPELIN II
[Atlantic 19126]                [Atlantic 19127]   
[Released on January 12, 1969]  [Released on October 22, 1969]
 1. Good Times Bad Times         1. Whole Lotta Love
 2. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You     2. What Is and What Should Never Be
 3. You Shook Me                 3. The Lemon Song
 4. Dazed and Confused           4. Thank You
 5. Your Time Is Gonna Come      5. Heartbreaker
 6. Black Mountain Side          6. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
 7. Communication Breakdown      7. Ramble On
 8. I Can't Quit You Baby        8. Moby Dick
 9. How Many More Times          9. Bring It On Home

3. LED ZEPPELIN III             4. (untitled fourth album)
[Atlantic 19128]                [Atlantic 19129]
[Released on October 5, 1970]   [Released on November 8, 1971]
 1. Immigrant Song               1. Black Dog
 2. Friends                      2. Rock and Roll
 3. Celebration Day              3. The Battle of Evermore
 4. Since I've Been Loving You   4. Stairway To Heaven
 5. Out On The Tiles             5. Misty Mountain Hop
 6. Gallows Pole                 6. Four Sticks
 7. Tangerine                    7. Going To California
 8. That's The Way               8. When The Levee Breaks
 9. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
10. Hats Off To (Roy) Harper

5. HOUSES OF THE HOLY           6. PHYSICAL GRAFFITI
[Atlantic 19130]                [Swan Song 2-200]
[Released on March 28, 1973]    [Released on Febrary 24, 1975]
 1. The Song Remains The Same    1. Custard Pie
 2. The Rain Song                2. The Rover
 3. Over The Hills and Far Away  3. In My Time of Dying
 4. The Crunge                   4. Houses of The Holy
 5. Dancing Days                 5. Trampled Under Foot
 6. D'yer Mak'er                 6. Kashmir
 7. No Quarter                   7. In The Light
 8. The Ocean                    8. Bron-Yr-Aur
                                 9. Down By The Seaside
                                10. Ten Years Gone
                                11. Night Flight
                                12. The Wanton Song
                                13. Boogie With Stu
                                14. Black Country Woman
                                15. Sick Again

7. PRESENCE                     8. THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME
[Swan Song 8416]                [Swan Song 2-201]
[Released on March 31, 1976]    [Released on September 28, 1976]
 1. Achilles Last Stand          1. Rock and Roll
 2. For Your Life                2. Celebration Day
 3. Royal Orleans                3. The Song Remains The Same
 4. Nobody's Fault But Mine      4. Rain Song
 5. Candy Store Rock             5. Dazed and Confused
 6. Hots On For Nowhere          6. No Quarter
 7. Tea For One                  7. Stairway To Heaven
                                 8. Moby Dick
                                 9. Whole Lotta Love


9. IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR      10. CODA  
[Swan Song 16002]               [Swan Song 90051]
[Released on August 15, 1979]   [Released on November 19, 1982]
 1. In The Evening               1. We're Gonna Groove
 2. South Bound Saurez           2. Poor Tom
 3. Fool In The Rain             3. I Can't Quit You Baby
 4. Hot Dog                      4. Walter's Walk
 5. Carouselambra                5. Ozone Baby
 6. All My Love                  6. Darlene
 7. I'm Gonna Crawl              7. Bonzo's Montreux
                                 8. Wearing and Tearing


PART 6. TOUR/SONG OVERVIEW
==========================
                              LED ZEPPELIN I      LED ZEPPELIN II
                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~      
                                                    W              
                                                    I                 
                                B     Y     I       A              
                              G I     T     C H     W             B
                              T G Y D I B   Q M   W S T     L     I
                              B L S A G M C Y M   L N L T   L R M O
                              T Y M C C S B B T   L B S Y H M O D H
68 sep       Scandinavia        * * * * * * * *                    
   nov-dec   UK                 * * *   * * * *                   
69 dec-jan   USA                * * *   * * * *       7             
   mar-apr   UK+Scand.            * *   * * * *       7                  
   apr-may   USA                  * *   * * * *   *   7         8      
   jun       UK                   * *   * * * *   * *                    
   jul-aug   USA                  * *   * * * *   *                      
   oct 12    London           1   * *   * * * *   *       *              
   oct-nov   USA                  * *   * * * *   * *   * *     * *      
70 jan       UK                     *   * * * *   * *   * *     * *
   feb       Scandinavia            *   * * * *   * *   * *     * *   
   mar       Europe                 *   * * * *   * *   * *   1 * *      
   mar-apr   USA                    *   * * * *   * *   * *     * * 
   jun 28    Bath Festival          *     *   *   * *   * *     * *   
   jul       Germany                *     *       * *   * *     * *      
   aug-sep   USA              1     *     *       * *   * *     * *    
71 mar       UK                     *     *       * *   * *     *        
   jun-jul   Europe                 *     *       * *   * *     *       
   aug-sep   USA                  2 *     *       * *   * *     *     
   sep       Japan                2 * 5   *   *   * *   * *     *      
   nov-dec   UK                   2 *     *       * *   * *     *   
72 feb/mar   Australia            2 *     *       * *   * *     *    
   jun/jul   USA                    *     *       * *   * *     * *     
   oct       Japan                  *     * 2     *     * *     *    
73 dec-jan   UK                     *     * 2 *   *     * *     *    
   mar-apr   Europe                 *     * 2     *     * *     *     
   may-jul   USA                    *     *       *     * *     *   
75 jan-mar   USA                    4     *   4   *       *     *   
   may       London               3 *     *       *       *     *      
77 apr-jul   USA                  3     * *       *       *     8    
79 jul-aug   Cop./Knebw.                * 6       *       6             
80 jun-jul   Europe                     * *       *       *            

NOTES  
1  as part of Communication Breakdown Medley
2  as part of Whole Lotta Love Medley
3  as (brief) part of In My Time Of Dying
4  due to Jimmy's finger injury, HMMT was played instead of 
   DAC during the first two weeks
5  as part of How Many More Times Medley
6  not in Copenhagen
7  the song Killing Floor developed into The Lemon Song
8  early version was called Pat's Delight, late version 
   (with Out On The Tiles riff) was called Over The Top    
  
                              LED ZEPPELIN III     LED ZEPPELIN IV
                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                    S           H
                                    I O       B O      T         W  
                                    B O     T Y T    R B S M   G T
                              I   C L T G   T A R  B A O T M F T L
                              S F D Y T P T W S H  D R E H H S C B
70 jan       UK                     *                               
   feb       Scandinavia            *                         
   mar       Europe                 *                               
   mar-apr   USA                    *                               
   jun 28    Bath Festival    *     *       *               
   jul       Germany          *     *       *             
   aug-sep   USA              *     * *     *                 
71 mar       UK               *     * 7 * * * *    * *   *     *  
   jun-jul   Europe           *     * 7   * * *    * *   * * 1 *   
   aug-sep   USA              *   * * 7   * * *    * *   *     *     
   sep       Japan            * * * * 7   * * *    * *   *     *   
   nov-dec   UK               *   * *     * * *    * *   *     *    
72 feb/mar   Australia        *   *       * * *    * *   *     *   
   jun       USA              *           * * *    * *   *     *    
   oct       Japan            *     *         *    * *   * *   
73 dec-jan   UK               *     *         *    * *   * *  
   mar-apr   Europe           *     *              * *   * *  
   may-jul   USA              1   * *   3          * *   * *     
75 jan-mar   USA                    *   3            *   *       *   
   may       London                                  *   *     *   
77 apr-jul   USA                    * 2   * * *      * * *     *      
79 jul-aug   Cop./Knebw.          * * 7            * *   * *     
80 jun-jul   Europe                 * 7            * *   *       
     
                           HOUSES OF THE HOLY  PHYSICAL GRAFFITI
                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                  O
                              T   T                I
                              S   H                M H         D
                              R T A                T O     I B B T   T B B 
                              T R F T D D N T  C T O T T   T Y T Y N W W C S
                              S S A C D M Q O  P R D H U K L A S G F S S W A
70 aug-sep   USA                                             *
72 jun       USA                  * 4                                    *  
   oct       Japan            * * * 4 *                            
73 dec-jan   UK               * * * 4 *     *                        
   mar-apr   Europe           * * * 4 *     *                              
   may-jul   USA              * * * 4     * *      *   * *             
75 jan-mar   USA              * * * 4     *        *   * *           *     * 
   may       London           * * *   5   *        *   * *                 *
77 apr-jul   USA              *   *   8   *      6 *   * *       *       * * 
79 jul-aug   Cop./Knebw.      * * *       *            * *       *         *
80 jun-jul   Europe             *                      * *           

SONGS FROM OTHER ALBUMS
Achilles' Last Stand     was played in '77 '79 '80
Nobody's Fault But Mine  was played in '77 '79 '80  
In The Evening           was played in     '79 '80
Hot Dog                  was played in     '79 '80
All My Love              was played in         '80 
We're Gonna Groove was played in UK, Eur., USA '70 
   
NOTES  
1  one documented version known
2  Out On The Tiles riff was intro to Moby Dick, now called Over the Top
3  some lines as part of Trampled Underfoot
4  as part of Dazed, and later of Whole Lotta Love
5  in a medley with Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, al least once (L.A. Forum 6/23/77).
6  as a segueway between The Song Remains The Same and Sick Again
7  Out On The Tiles riff was often used as intro to Black Dog
8  one acoustic version known
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