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From: carol@mcnc.org (Carol S. Powers)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Terrier Info Please
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:02:25 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

This is to reply to Susan M. Kennedy regarding Terriers.

Great Dogs ! We own a Cairn Terrier so I am very partial to them.
I would highly recommend one to anyone, children or not. They are
very happy dogs with friendly, outgoing dispositions. Being active
in Boomer's case anyway, means that he is ready and willing when
you are to do just about anything. He's basicly quiet in the house
but can romp and play continuously with our 9 year old all day
outside. He travels well too, never gets upset about being away
from home if we vacation somewhere. Terriers in general are very
healthy and are long lived if well taken care of. They are just a 
good, all around pet. 
We have shown Boomer in obedience, he has many fans due to his 
eagerness and attitude about being in the ring performing and
showing off what he knows. He makes friends easily. But the place
we have the most fun with him is at Terrier Trials. If you ever
get a chance to go to one, do so. You'll find all types of terriers
at these events, having the thrill of their lives and doing what
they were originally bred to do. They are very gamey and intense
and will turn theirselves inside out to work the tunnels and run
at the races.
Sorry to ramble, but I just believe that they make wonderful 
companions for young and old.

John, Carol and Wesley Powers

Seina's Bonnie Lass, CDX, HC, TT, CGC - Shetland Sheepdog

C.J.'s Boomerang McScruff, CDX, CGC - Cairn Terrier

Gorichka's Count Chester (Points towards Field Championship) - Borzoi

Harvey - Morris-type cat
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From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Obedience people.............
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:55:18 GMT

Hey everybody !  Help me out with your opinions on this one.............

    First some background.......I am not a hard-core obedience person. 
There are
not any decent training facilities (decent = training methods and trainers
that I 
think are worth paying for) in my area.  I do believe in putting a CD (at
least)
on all my dogs.  I have been sucessful so far with training on my own and
with 
friends (for distraction and long sit/down practice) by reading lots and
lots of 
books and "developing" a training method that suits my tastes.
    "Oreo" is my rescue case.  She was rescued from a neglectful and
abusive home
at about 10 months of age.  I have had her ever since, despite the fact
that early on
in her "rehabilitation" I was afraid she might never learn to trust human
beings
ever again.  Well, long story short...she's finished her Championship and
now we're 
working on her CD.   She tends to be most "set off" by men...particularly
men with 
white hair.  Obviously, in order to increase her chances of qualifying (and
decrease 
her stress level), I will try to enter her only under females
(*sigh*....and Mr. Delaney 
is judging nearby next month......I just love that man !!).
     Getting to my question.........The first obedience trial we entered
was the ACDCA
National Specialty.  She did fine, qualified and took third place in Novice
B (*grin*).
I and several other people noticed that she was very wary of the judge (the
judge 
was a very non-intimidating, tiny woman)....Oreo kept her eyes on the judge

during the heeling patterns and seemed most nervous when the judge was
behind her
(she knew she was to be paying attention to me but "that woman" just kept
following
us in the ring......).  On the recall I thought I lost her ..........Oreo
almost ran to me 
*backwards* just so that she could keep tabs on the judge.  
    Someone suggested that when I first enter the ring and am set for the
first exercise 
and the judge asks "are there any questions?" that I explain to the judge
that Oreo is
a rescue case and she is very uneasy about people behind her.   

    What do you all think ?    On one hand I certainly don't want any
special consideration
(She'll never be a threat to anyone trying to place anyway....as long as
the ribbon is
*light* green I'll be happy).  On the other hand, I think the judge might
want to know. 

    Anyone with an opinion or experience in this area ?  Any obedience
judges out there ?
What would you think (as a judge) if someone said "my dog/bitch  is a
rescue case and 
is wary of people coming up behind her" ?  

   Thanks in advance for any opinions and/or advice !!

Happy Heeling !
KAthy
------------------------------
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
From: eade@advtech.uswest.com (Elizabeth Erickson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Anyone know of Great Dane rescue service?
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:31:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies


We just moved from the San Francisco Bay Area to the Boulder, CO area.  We
have wanted to adopt a Great Dane for a while now, and we're ready to do that;
in the Bay Area there are several organizations for different breeds of dogs
which place unwanted or stranded full-grown dogs with new owners.  There is
an adoption fee of $150, and the dogs are all pure bred and neutered or spayed
(to eliminate the possibility of adopting just for breeding purposes).  Does
anyone know of a similar organization for Danes here in the Boulder Area? 
Short of that, since we have lost the phone number of the Dane organization
in the Bay Area, perhaps someone can tell us of an organization in another
area that might be informed about Colorado?

Thanks for any info; a direct response is probably best, to me at
eade@advtech.uswest.com.

Thanks much!

Elizabeth
From: karenp@sybase.com (Karen Paulsell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Shutterbugs
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:39:10 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <92254.124728NAT@psuvm.psu.edu>, patty mulkeen <NAT@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>      I have a question for all the folks who take lots of pictures
> of their dogs.  How do you get the dog to look happy for the
> camera?  When I take pictures of my lab/golden mix, he gets a very
> sad look on his face and his tail  droops as soon as I look through
> the camera.  It's pretty pitiful, certainly not what I want to capture
> on film!  Any hints would be appreciated (posted or e-mailed, I check
> this newsgroup pretty frequently).  Thanks!
>                                                    Patty Mulkeen
>                                                    nat@psuvm.psu.edu

I have a 'portrait lens' that I usually use for dog-photos, I think
it's about an 80-200 zoom. That way, you don't have to get right
up in the dog's face to get a reasonable "close-up".  I've gotten
lots (too many? never!) good pics of dogs -- and cats -- that way.

Cats are even worse with a regular lens, once you snap a shot, they
come in close to see what the whirrs and clicks were!

Also, I find that if I just offer to buy the film, I can get a 
friend to come shoot me and my dog, or to shoot while I handle the
dog. Most any camera nut will take the offer!
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From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Subject: Re: Signs you've gone to a bad veterinarian
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:56:34 GMT

lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:

>Seriously (but it was funny to watch)... I knew I had the wrong vet
>when he insisted on lifting my very mellow, 110-pound setter onto 
>a table for routine exams and shots. Allie hated it, I hated it (I
>had to help lift!), and I found a new vet ASAP.

Wait a minute....I know this is just your opinion...but I have to give
this my two-cents-worth (which I am sure is not worth two cents to some ppl,
but anyway...)

Having worked in a number of animal hospitals, I have been able to watch
many physical exams being done on dogs and cats alike.  Most of the time, 
when the doctor is giving a P.E., he or she prefers the animal to be on 
the table, for several reasons.  One reason is that this puts the animal off
of the floor where he feels "safe" and thus it sometimes helps to prevent
the animal from snapping.  (Yes, I realize that some animals will try to
jump off the table, but that is another story altogether).  Another reason
is that, should the animal require restraint, the assistant can get 
leverage to hold the animlal still while the doctor does his/her job
without needing to worry about getting bitten or having the patient try
to hide under a chair.  Most importantly, to my way of thinking, is that
for most doctors to do a physical, they need to be able to see the
skin on the belly, palpate the abdomen, listen to the heart, etc.;  all
of which would require the vet to sit or even lie on the floor.  What's
wrong with sitting on the floor?  Nothing...if the animal won't snap and
you have to get away quickly, or if you don't have a bad back.  If you DO
have a back problem, leaning over animals all day certainly won't help, and
it is possible that you might not do as complete an exam you would have
done if your back had not started hurting.  (I know I can barely rinse my
dog off after giving her a bath and leaning over the tub for 1/2 hr,
I can imagine how it would feel to lean over a dogs all day long).

Like I said, this is just my opinion, but from what I have seen there 
are too many advantages to having the animal up on the table versus
having them on the floor, especially when needing to restrain.  At least
*try* to see it from the vet's point of view...if you aren't happy with
what they are doing, let them know or have them explain it to you.  If
they won't answer your questions, well...then it's time to find another 
vet.

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From: gms@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Signs you've gone to a bad veterinarian
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:50:41 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Oct1.220153.18140@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron) writes:
> 
> Molly was about 4 months old when she got into some brush and injured her eye
> (nothing serious).  Being Saturday at 11pm, we took her to the emergency vet. 
> While waiting the the vet to get in, the vet tech started taking vitals.  He
> inserted the thermometer, turn to get the stethescope and we heard a crash. 
> On the floor at the wall (6 feet away) was a broken thermometer.  He blushed
> and wrote on the chart "Good sphincter tone".
> 
> Does anybody else out there get Christmas cards from the emergency vet?
> --
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After settling the bill and almost reaching the car the vet nurse came
running out after us, lifted the dogs tail and extracted the thermometer :-)
She said "well its normal, he is always forgeting these :-)"

Now I just keep a close eye on him (the vet that is)

Michele
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Pet Population Legislation
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:50:32 GMT
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

r hardin writes:
> Thought question: if there were no shelters, what would
> the figures be for euthanized dogs?

Down.  By about the same numbers as the increase in abandoned dogs.
Anyone unclear on the concept here?  How abandoned dogs die?

-- Jon

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From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: HELP! New dog barks when alone
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:19:52 GMT

	HELP!!!!!!!
	I finally ended up getting a pup from the local animal shelter (unlike
the retired seeing eye dog that I originally wanted..).  He's a beautiful year
old golden retr./collie mix; VERY well mannered and relaxed.  There's only one
problem.  I picked him up yesterday, and when I tried to leave him alone (he
sleeps in a different room than I do due to my s.o.'s cat, who is incredibly
territorial and won't let the dog *near* "his" room.), he whined and barked for
a good 20 minutes.  I realize that he's new and is just going through a little
separation anxiety, but try explaining that to my hallmates (and the floor
above and below us) at 8 in the morning after I walk him and he decides he
wants company.
	I tried leaving a light and a radio on, leaving him a blanket and a
tshirt of mine, and plenty of food, water and toys, but he knows I'm leaving
and freaks anyway.  I told the people on my hall to leave him alone and he'll
calm down after a while, but they look at me like I'm the cruelest thing in the
world.
	My question:  am I doing the right thing by leaving him alone to learn
that I leave and come back, or is there something else I can do to make his
transition easier?  I hope this only lasts a few days, but if it doesn't is
there a way to move things along?  PLEASE respond soon.. I can't stand another
night of looking into those big brown eyes and hearing that pathetic whine. 
Thanks!

			lisa
			lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu

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From: thuyan@ravel.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Subject: Please tell me my dog is not stupid
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:31:48 GMT

I have a siberian husky.  My roommates are convinced she is retarded
because she does not always come when told or sit when told.  I think
she is just very independent.  So who is right?

Thuy-An

From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:01:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Greyhound Obedience Training
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

|Can anyone help?  I am assisting in a Dog Obedience class and we have an
|ex-racing greyhound as one of our pupils. Since racing greyhounds are 
|punished for sitting apparently, none of us are sure how to approach 
|teaching 'sit'.  We have suggested going very slowly and gently, but no-one 
|knew for sure.  'Down' is also going to be a problem since it's usually 
|taught from a 'sit'.
|
|Can anyone out there give advice - 
|
|Thanks.
|
|Alison 
----------

I can appreciate your difficulties.  May I suggest that the command
"sit" for a Greyhound be a down.  Down on all fours will be just as
effective for the "stay" command.  Unfortunately, the hound will have a
hard time with "shake" from that position.  I feel the goal of sit is to
then teach them stay.  The hound will be able to down directly from a
standing position.

I'll guarantee that the hound will beat any other dogs for the "chase"
or "get it" command.  ;-)

I hope this helps.

Good Luck...Kirk
From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: CANIS, Cologne for dogs
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:33:20 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Node
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Sep28.214052.17979@c3177208.ssr.hp.com> bill@ssr.hp.com (Bill Chidester) writes:
> 
>   How many caught the CANIS commercial on Saturday Night Live?  I
>   laughed so hard I fell off the couch...
> 
> ---------------------
> Bill Chidester
> bill@c3177208.ssr.hp.com

Excellent!  You could see it coming, and it was *STILL* a hoot...

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From: simon@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu
Subject: Guess on WOTAN
Reply-To: simon@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nuclear Physics Laboratory, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 14:56:21 GMT

Some dogs can not handle meat.  I have a friend whose dog developed
a condition where they could not digest meat. Has your dog eaten anything
like chocolate or onions? They can make a dog very sick or kill them in
large amounts.
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From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: mixed breeds in obedience shows
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:36:30 GMT


As I understand it, only pure bred dogs, with papers, may enter in
AKC obedience shows.  Is it also true that dogs entered in obedience
shows may not be neutered?  If this is true, it's quite a shame for
those of us who have wonderful dogs we've adopted from a pound (no
papers, and definately neutered) who would love to compete in
obedience shows.  Does anyone else feel this way?  I understand
why the rules are in place for conformation, but not for obedience.
Could the AKC be petitioned to allow for a new "breed" to be
recognized for obedience shows only?  Something like, "All American
Competitor?"  From some of these wonderful stories about obedience
shows, I really feel like I'm missing out.
-- 
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From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Subject: Re: Doggy relationships (was Re: Change subject of loose kids to loose dogs)
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:02:32 GMT

In article <2AC243DB.11673@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>
>This is an interesting subject.  I will ask people how their dogs are
>with other dogs and if they're OK, I'll let my puppy play with them.
>However, not everyone is familiar with canine behavior, even some dog
>owners! I've had people convinced that their dog was going to eat my
>puppy.  I've had people with small dogs convinced that my puppy was
>going to eat their dog. 


I will ask people if my dog can play with theirs or sniff them, 
my dog obviously love spending time playing with other dogs.
I have a small cocker spaniel, not exactly a small dog but not
big either. I too am surprised to see people think that their dog will
eat Tania, while they are showing signs of playfulness and friendlyness. 

I find that the dogs will usually adjust their plays pretty quickly
if given half a chance to do so. I walk my dog on leash when I walk her
on he street but off leash when I walk her in a field nearby
and most people walk their dog off leash there.





-- 
Michele Guillet 			The Communications Research Centre 
3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA, K2H 8S2	tel:613-998-2384
Internet: michele@dgbt.doc.ca	
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Raising dogs vs. children
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:30:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.235741.24609@odin.corp.sgi.com>,
bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier) wrote:

> Reasons why dogs are neat but kids are much better
> 
> 10)  Dogs don't smile at you and make your heart melt

If you've never seen a doggie smile, you are definitely missing
something......my ACDs smile at me all the time.  Most of the
time it could be labeled as a shit-eating-grin though  :-)


> 7)   Dogs can't speak English or discuss politics

Yes, but one lick to the face at the proper moment can
speak *VOLUMES* !!

> 
> 6)   Dogs can't have grandchildren

Wrong !!  Right now I have grandchildren (the 4-legged kind)
here in Illinois, Missouri, Pennsylvania, and Puerto Rico.
Oreo's second litter is due next month and I will have a new
batch of grandkids then (BTW, my K9 granddaughter in Missouri
even sent me a card for grandparents day !!!).

> 4)   You can't go out for a beer with a dog

You can if you know somewhere that is willing to "bend the
rules" for a well-behaved beer-drinkin' dog.  (Highly 
recommended too...I rarely end up buying !!)


> 1)   Dogs don't like being dressed up in cute outfits

Would you like to see some pictures from the past few Halloweens
with me and my "kids" ?  All of mine think it's pretty darn neat to
go out to the neighbors houses and get "cookies" at each one !!  Our
local Humane Society sponsors a Pet Masquerade each year.........
all the dogs, cats, etc. seem to be "proud" to be dressed up for the
occasion !!

MY CONCLUSION:
     Having dogs vs. having kids boils down to "different strokes for
different folks".  I for one don't feel any less "fulfilled" because my
children have 4 legs instead of 2 !!

Kathy
---------------------
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
From: krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:53:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Someone please help me...my best friend is hurt!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

I'm sorry to hear of your problem.  It is very frustrating when Drs/vets
can give you answers.  The only thing I can even think to suggest is to
check for a good vet school in your area.  I don't know where your are
located, so I can't be of any help in finding a school, but this may
be one thing to keep in mind.

If there is no school near by to try to treat Major, maybe you can at
least call a reputable vet school and see if they have heard of this, or
have any suggestions.  I don't know if they will gladly answer your 
questions or not, but when it might be worth a try.  You can only hope
that vet schools may have run into something like this before.  

Good Luck! I hope you can find out what this is and get help!  I know
how I'd feel if it was one of my 'babies'.
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog takes off and won
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu
MGB>Subject: Re: Dog takes off and won't listen!

MGB>In article <1992Sep24.164933.2058#bvc.edu> TIMS@BVC.EDU writes:
MGB>>I have a 9 month-old golden retreiver named Ming, who has began to take of
MGB>>on her own and not come when she is called.  While we are both out in the
MGB>>yard, she will spot our neighbor (who isn't even looking at her), and bolt
MGB>>to him.  Screaming at her, she ignores us until we walk over to her.  Then
MGB>>she KNOWS she is bad and will promptly follow me back to the house, lay
MGB>>down, and stay put.  How can I train her to listen to me and not take off
MGB>>as soon as she sees a neighbor.  (We recently moved to a new city, if this
MGB>>makes any difference.)
MGB>>
MGB>>Thanks tons,
MGB>>
MGB>>TIMS@BVC.EDU

I know this might sound strange but I saw someone do it the other day
with thier Lab and it worked. Run away from the dog, the dog thought it
was time to play chase and ran after the owner! The owner caught the
dog, because it ran to her. Dog was happy, Owner was happy!!

Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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