HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: "paged" vs. panned virtual desktop
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:46:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 08:17:37 PDT
Message-Id: <9210131517.AA26715@mtesol>


> From xpert-mailer@expo.lcs.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 16:03:32 1992
> Date: 9 Oct 92 14:18:07 GMT
> From: jbthiel@cse.ogi.edu (John B. Thiel)
> Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR
> Subject: "paged" vs. panned virtual desktop
> Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
> Sender: xpert-request@expo.lcs.mit.edu
> To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
> Content-Length: 692
> 
> 
> Is there a window manager or other mechanism to effect a virtual
> desktop that is "paged" rather than panned? The idea is to have
> a control w/ eg. 3x3 boxes that represent 9 subdivisions of the virtual
> desktop. Clicking one of the boxes displays the corresponding part of
> the desktop on the physical screen. The pages should be continuous (ie.
> a window could be between pages), and ideally the 3x3 array would reflect
> in miniature the sizes and positions of all objects on the desktop.
> 
> I have tried ctwm, but its pages are discrete, and the control consists
> only of colored buttons.
> 
> Any pointers appreciated.
> 
> 
> -- 
> CSNET	jbthiel@cse.ogi.edu
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> 
swm (Solbourne Window Manager ? ; Simple Window Manager?) does exactly that, but
I don't know if the sources are available or not. I don't know Tom LaStrange's
(of twm fame) involvement with it but he was at Solbourne when it was done
(seems to be at ParcPlace now).

Sinan
From: adrian@ora.com (adrian)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: How to choose a server from XDM
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:38:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:01:04-060
Message-Id: <9210142201.AA00807@spike.ora.com>


>  how can I choose from the 
> X-terminal (displaing the XDM) the workstation to which connect to? 

There is also an article on xdm in the next issue of The X Resource
(due out in two weeks) which discusses (in part) how to use the 
various xdm modes BROADCAST, DIRECT, and INDIRECT and strategies for 
load-leveling, if that's part of what you want to know.

*************************************************************
Adrian Nye (314) 531-1231    Editor, The X Resource
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., Publishers of Nutshell Handbooks
4466 West Pine Blvd.  20-G   St. Louis MO 63108
Internet:   adrian@ora.com    	UUCP:   uunet!ora!adrian      
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From: srm@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Simon Monk)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Z font for X windows REQUEST
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:32:07 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

Date: 7 Oct 92 08:18:56 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.081856.7610@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Please, does anyone have, or know where I could get hold of a font that
has the special characters used in the Z specification language.

Many Thanks


Simon Monk
Dept of Computing
Engineering Building
University of Lancaster
Lancaster
LA1 4YR
England
U.K.
From: 6500msd@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Michael D'Errico)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: how to use WM_COLORMAP_WINDOWS property
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:56:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 13 Oct 92 02:03:46 GMT
Message-Id: <6021@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I understand that the WM_COLORMAP_WINDOWS property is
supposed to be used to let the window manager know when
a window requires a different colormap than its top-level
window.  However, no matter what I've tried to set this
property up correctly, absolutely nothing happens when
the pointer is placed in the window.  Perhaps I'm not
setting up everything I need to (or am I wrong to assume
that the colormap should be installed when the pointer
is in the window?).

So, if somebody could post or send a list of everything
that needs to be done to set this up correctly (example
code would be welcomed), I would be very grateful.

If it makes a difference, the window is part of a Motif
drawingAreaWidget which is located in the following
widget tree:
               topwidget
                 /|\  \
                / | \  ---------- dialogshell
               /  |  \                |
            menus,others            form
                                      |
                                  drawingarea

Thanks in Advance,

Mike
6500msd@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
From: tommi@phoenix.oulu.fi (Tommi V Kaikkonen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Internationalization and Kanjai support in Xlib
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:49:07 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Taidonkaari 1 E 36, 90570 Oulu, FINLAND

Date: 7 Oct 92 01:37:26 GMT
Message-Id: <TOMMI.92Oct7033726@phoenix.oulu.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic) writes:
>We have to "internationalize" a large GUI that is based on Xlib.
>I would appreciate any comments, hints about doing that.
>Our application runs on the Sun with X11R4.
>In particular, we need to add support to 16 bit character sets (Kanji font).

kterm (Kanji-terminal) and cxterm (Chinese xterm) are quite good examples
of 16-bit "character set" terminals. I don't know how much you already know
about GB, HZ-encoding, JIS, and so on? These packages can be found from
for example following ftp-places:

archie> prog kterm
Host nic.funet.fi   (128.214.6.100)
Last updated 18:47  2 Oct 1992

    Location: /pub/pics/jpeg/programs/X11
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    242729  Dec 23  1990   kterm-4.1.0.tar.Z
    Location: /pub/X11/contrib
      FILE      rw-rw-r--    242729  Dec 23  1990   kterm-4.1.0.tar.Z

Host utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp   (133.11.11.11)
Last updated 05:33  4 Jun 1992

    Location: /fj/kterm4.1.0
      FILE      rw-r--r--    242729  Jan 21  1991   kterm-4.1.0.tar.Z

Host sh.wide.ad.jp   (133.4.11.11)
Last updated 17:07  3 Jun 1992

    Location: /JAPAN
      FILE      rw-r--r--    242729  Aug  3  1990   kterm-4.1.0.tar.Z

Host oskgate0.mei.co.jp   (132.182.49.2)
Last updated 15:24  3 Jun 1992

    Location: /tmp_mnt/public/mnt0/X/clients/term
      FILE      rw-r--r--    486351  Mar  1  1991   kterm-4.1.0.tar.Z

Host nic.funet.fi   (128.214.6.100)
Last updated 18:47  2 Oct 1992

    Location: /pub/pics/jpeg/programs/X11
      FILE      rw-rw-r--      8004  May  6 21:17   kterm-4.1.2-README

archie> prog cxterm
Host nic.funet.fi   (128.214.6.100)
Last updated 18:47  2 Oct 1992

    Location: /pub/culture/chinese/unix
      FILE      rw-r--r--    419456  Apr 24 00:50   cxterm-11.5.1.tar.Z

Host arthur.cs.purdue.edu   (128.10.2.1)
Last updated 23:46 30 May 1992

    Location: /pub/ygz
      FILE      r--r--r--    419456  Oct 29  1991   cxterm-11.5.1.tar.Z

Host ahkcus.org   (192.55.187.25)
Last updated 20:05 30 May 1992

    Location: /src/unix
      FILE      r--r--r--    419456  Oct 30  1991   cxterm-11.5.1.tar.Z

Host ames.arc.nasa.gov   (128.102.18.3)
Last updated 20:52 30 May 1992

    Location: /pub
      FILE      rwxr-xr-x    559595  Jun 10  1991   etcxterm.tar.Z

Host arthur.cs.purdue.edu   (128.10.2.1)
Last updated 23:46 30 May 1992

    Location: /pub/ygz
      FILE      r--r--r--    398780  Oct 29  1991   cxterm-11.4.2.tar.Z

Host kth.se   (130.237.72.201)
Last updated 09:07  1 Jun 1992

    Location: /CJK/purdue-ygz
      DIRECTORY rwxrwxr-x       512  Apr 20  1991   cxterm-dictionary

archie> quit

Tommi
From: e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Can't find a font
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:08:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:19:34 GMT
Message-Id: <BvvCCo.BAv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.hp

HP-UX 8.0?.

The application in question is looking for a specific font:

	-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-r-*-*-14-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*

The font IS there.  It's in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/iso_8859.1/100dpi

xlsfonts shows it's there.

The permissions on the file are fine.  Everything looks fine.

But the application can't find it.  XLoadQueryFont returns NULL.

The machine is an HP 835.

Any ideas ??

-- 
Eric W. Sink, Spyglass        | "You are the Pan."
1800 Woodfield Drive          |     - Rufio
Savoy, IL  61826              |
---- e-sink@uiuc.edu ---------|---------- 217-355-6000 -----------------------
From: polstra!jdp@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (John Polstra)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X11R5 on ISC -- no nore shared libs : -(
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:33:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA

Date: 6 Oct 92 16:20:41 GMT
Message-Id: <20210@polstra.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.sysv386

In article <1992Oct6.032641.573@shawn.uucp> root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor) writes:
> The stock version of X11R5 for Intel-based SVGA systems lacks an important
> feature that was readlily available in X11R4 (even though not from MIT):
> shared libraries.

Get XFree86.  I picked up the binaries over the weekend, and all of the
important libraries (X11, Xaw, Xext, Xi, Xmu, Xt, and oldX, to be precise)
came in shared versions.
-- 
   John Polstra                              polstra!jdp@uunet.uu.net
   John D. Polstra & Co., Inc.                  ...!uunet!polstra!jdp
   Seattle, Washington USA   Phone (206) 932-6482, FAX (206) 935-1262
   "Self-knowledge is always bad news."                 -- John Barth
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Starting X11R5 on mips Ultrix 4.2
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:37:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group

Date: 7 Oct 92 20:06:29 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.200629.10993@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.windows.x

I've compiled X11R5 on a MIPS-based Ultrix 4.2 box.  Now I'm trying to
get it to start up.

I removed

:0 "/usr/bin/login -P /usr/bin/Xprompter -C /usr/bin/dxsession -e" \
none on secure window="/usr/bin/Xtm2d"

from /etc/ttys and changed the "console" status to "on".  "kill -1 1"
gives me a login prompt on the console.

I then log in as myself and run "startx" and I get "couldn't open
device".

If I log in as "root", it comes up with no problems.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  "man Xdec" is pretty
useless.

Tom

-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)
"I like Bill Clinton tremendously.  I know him from the governors' conferences.
The Democrats nominated their best person, a very able fellow.  The country is
well served by that choice." -Bush's re-election chair in NJ (Thomas Kean)
From: hugues@afp.com (Hugues Lafarge)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: looking for arabic fonts
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:45:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Axis Design 119 rue de Flandre, 75019 Paris, France

Date: 2 Oct 92 19:57:52 GMT
Message-Id: <HUGUES.92Oct2145853@gamay.afp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


As the subject says, i'm looking for arabic fonts either
public domain or commercially available.
Could anyone on the net provide me with some pointers?

Also, i would like to know if there are any tools (xterm
for example) that allows right-to-left input of arabic
characters.

Please e-mail, i'll summarize if there is any interest.

Thanks in advance.
From: zahabi@discover.wright.edu (Bassem Zahabi)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Books for X-Windows (X11) programming
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:18:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Wright state University

Date: 14 Oct 92 15:05:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct14.100548.4765@desire.wright.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi everybody,

I am looking for some good books on X-Windows programming.

I know there are a lot of them in the bookstores (O'Rielly, etc..), but what I want
is a book that has enough pictures, figures, and codes that give you a clear idea 
of what you get when you finish writing the code.  

So far, I found O'Rielly the best among them. If you have a name of a book that fits
my description, please mail to:

zahabi@discover.wright.edu

Thank.X. much

-Bassem
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xterm input
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:18:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Via: uk.co.ggr; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:06:16 +0100
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:59:08 BST
Message-Id: <9210081759.AA05255@uk0x06.ggr.gri.com>

     Could  someone please explain why, in xterm, if I place the pointer
over the scrollbar then any input I type is ignored.   This  is  despite
the fact that the xterm cursor is still a block, not hollow. 

     Can  this  be easily change so that the state of the cursor (filled
versus hollow) *accurately* reflects whether the xterm is going  to  get
my keyboard input? 


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."
From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Announcing the availability of XFree86 1.1
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:43:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:51:43 GMT
Message-Id: <Bvux69.Az2@chinet.chi.il.us>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct7.194931.16296@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>| This, by the way, is a perfect example of why SVR4 is better than SCO.
>| We have a single binary kit, ~20MB compressed, that works on SVR4 from 7 
>| different vendors.  
>This may come as a shock, but V.3 worked that way, too, and Xenix/386
>binaries will run on virtually anything. 

	Bill, I have an idea that this refers to the fact that most
	(if not all) r4s are pretty standard, specially in the networking
	code.  Believe me, a networking program like X is NOT compatible
	with all svr3's.  Back then, everyone did their network interface
	different than everyone else.

-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
From: sd344@city.ac.uk (SHARPE P A)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Answerbook without NeWS
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:56:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The City University

Date: 14 Oct 92 16:51:42 GMT
Message-Id: <sd344.719081502@KingsX>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Does anyone know if you can get Sun's AnswerBook working without running
NeWS.  I heard someone had done it.

email: sd344@city.ac.uk

-- 
Paul Sharpe, Unix System Programmer, City University

+44 (0)71 477 8000 x3758
Internet: P.A.Sharpe@city.ac.uk
From: johnc@crsa.bu.edu (John Collins)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Rubber band lines in XView
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:32:54 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Boston University

Date: 7 Oct 92 21:57:23 GMT
Message-Id: <97905@bu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have recently written a program using XView running under 
Openwindows 3.0.  The program just displays a 24-bit image
and in general it works fine.  The problem is that whenever
the window is moved or resized, the image turns monochrome wherever the 
"rubber band" line touches it.  
   I have seen this problem in some Xlib color demo problems
as well.  But in all other situations, the monochrome lines 
can be removed by refreshing the screen (which is still annoying,
but effective).  In my case, however, even this doesn't work.
   I have a feeling that the problem might be in my REPAINT_PROC
for the canvas.  I put in a debugging line that just prints a message
whenever the routine is called, but the message never gets printed, 
leading me to believe that the procedure never gets called.

Any ideas/suggestions are appreciated.

-John Collins.
From: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xterm size
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:31:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 12 Oct 92 21:43:55 GMT
Message-Id: <48497@shamash.cdc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <48487@shamash.cdc.com>, I wrote:
|> I need a way to (from a C shell script) invoke xterm so that it comes
|> up in 132 character width.  Setting the geometry resource ignores font
|> size.  I can't use the -e parameter to send the DECCOLM sequence 
|> on invocation.  Is there a way?  I need a way that works well across
|> platforms (sun, hp, sgi, etc.).  Thanks.
|> -- 
|> Steve Chesney                                    slc@a2.cim.cdc.com     
|> Metaphase Technology, Inc.                       612-482-4662
|> 4290 Fernwood Avenue                             612-482-4001 (fax)
|> Arden Hills, MN  55112

 My thanks to the quick responses which noted that -geometry 132xwhatever     
is exactly what I want.
-- 
Steve Chesney                                    slc@cim.cdc.com     
Metaphase Technology Incorporated                612-482-4662 (voice)
4233 Lexington Avenue North                      612-482-4001 (fax)
Arden Hills, MN  55126
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xterm input
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:31:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Via: uk.co.ggr; Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:26:18 +0100
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:21:28 BST
Message-Id: <9210131321.AA09355@uk0x06.ggr.gri.com>

> From xpert-mailer@expo.lcs.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 21:10:29 1992
> Date: 9 Oct 92 21:12:20 GMT
> From: ftms!brown@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (Vidiot)
> Subject: Re: xterm input
> To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
> 
> In article <9210081759.AA05255@uk0x06.ggr.gri.com> gml4410@ggr.co.UK (Lack Mr G M) writes:
> <
> <     Could  someone please explain why, in xterm, if I place the pointer
> <over the scrollbar then any input I type is ignored.   This  is  despite
> <the fact that the xterm cursor is still a block, not hollow. 
> <
> <     Can  this  be easily change so that the state of the cursor (filled
> <versus hollow) *accurately* reflects whether the xterm is going  to  get
> <my keyboard input? 
> 
> When I move my cursor over the the scrollbar, it changes to a double-vertical
> arrow, i.e., a vertical double bar with an arrow pointing up and an arrow
> pointing down.

      *You*  are  talking about the X pointer.  *I* am talking about the
xterm cursor  (the  rectangular  one  which  indicates  where  the  next
character you type goes in the xterm window).  


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."
From: adrian@ora.com (adrian)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Getting performance FAQ
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:35:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:40:42-060
Message-Id: <9210142240.AA00946@spike.ora.com>


A lot more tips on performance
are in the paper "Improving X Application Performance"
by Chris D. Peterson and Sharon Chang, in Issue 3 of
The X Resource.

An earlier version of this paper, with some factual errors, 
appeared in the Xhibition 1992 conference proceedings.

This paper is absolutely essential reading for X programmers.

*************************************************************
Adrian Nye (314) 531-1231    Editor, The X Resource
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., Publishers of Nutshell Handbooks
4466 West Pine Blvd.  20-G   St. Louis MO 63108
Internet:   adrian@ora.com    	UUCP:   uunet!ora!adrian      
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From: kent@uux.eglin.af.mil (Robert Kent)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:42:19 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:36:39 -0500
Message-Id: <9210161836.AA10914@uux.eglin.af.mil>


    I cannot seem to get xmodmap to assign a sequence of keysyms to a

keycode via XChangeKeyboardMapping.  No matter how many keysyms are 

specified, only the first one is assigned to the specified keycode.

Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
From: mdb@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Brady)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: my x11r5 sun 4.1.2 problem
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:25:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept of Comp Sci, Royal Holloway & Bedford New College Uni London

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:47:33 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.114733.22479@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can anyone help with x11r5 sunos 4.1.2
I have pulled x11r5 across on to a system that has
never had mit x before, and am having many problems
such as those shown below. I have put on 17 fixes
and the sunGX fix, I can see what to correct in individual
makefiles most of the time, but I think this should not
happen. Can anyone fix this .. or at least put me right.
	Thanks,
	Mark Brady
	mdb@uk.ac.rhbnc.cs



cc -o xauth xauth.o gethost.o process.o parsedpy.o -O -pipe  
../.././lib/Xau/libXau.a -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L../.././lib/Xt 
-L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X   
ld: Undefined symbol
   _XGetVisualInfo
   _XFree
   _XInternAtom
   _XtMalloc
   _XGetAtomName
   _XQueryTree
   _XGetWindowProperty
   _XAddExtension
   _XESetCloseDisplay
   _XAllocColor

cc -o xlsclients xlsclients.o -O -pipe  -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu 
-L../.././lib/Xt -L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X 
-L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X -lX11   
ld: Undefined symbol
   _XtMalloc
   _XtGetConstraintResourceList
   _XtRealloc
   _XtVaSetValues
   _XtName
   _XtFree
   _XtTranslateCoords
   _XtGetResourceList
m
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:47:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:30:30 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct8.153030.2160@decuac.dec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

todd@fred.dfrf.nasa.gov (Todd Vernon) writes:
>If NT isn't doing windowing with respect to a network model,
>(client/server) it really would not stand much a chance in the scientific
>community. [...]

	I agree. Now - ask yourself if Microsoft wants to win the scientific
community's love and respect, or if it wants to ship millions of copies of
NT to all the folks who are currently using PC LANS as fancy typewriters
and point of sale systems. I think you'll quickly understand the demographics
of the situation.

>You aren't another NT'r trying to save the world with vapor ware are you ?

	Not at all. I'm a die-hard UNIX hacker, watching the system he
knows and loved quickly paint itself into a corner.

	Laughing off NT because it doesn't solve the scientific community's
problems is an echo of all the hard-core VMSers who laughed off UNIX because
it wasn't "commercial quality". Don't make the mistake of evaluating NT in
terms of functionality. Evaluate it in terms of demographics.

mjr.
-- 
	It is important to focus on writing software that is "adequate."
Having one's software be "good" or even "excellent" is over-rated. If
"good" were necessary or even important, DOS would not be the de facto
standard operating system.                          -notebooks of a heretic
From: noname@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (  )
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: ico SOURCE CODE (for X11R4)
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:29:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:48:22 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.144822.12243@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



Hello, 
  
Does any one know where I can get the ico program (for X11R4) SOURCE CODE?
Thanks.
  
Kevin Feng, (908) 576-6316, ckf@hover.att.com