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From: jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com (Jeff Enderwick)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:46:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: dsp.JEFF.92Nov11214658
	<61971@mimsy.umd.edu>
Organization: Motorola DSP Compilers

I think the idea is that the followup posting will keep some fool from
paying too much. I really appreciate it when people followup on prices
that are too high. keep it up!
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Wanted: SUN IPC or IPX
From: phutter@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (PATRICK HUTTER)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:08:35 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT USA

I am looking for a SUN IPC or IPX workstation, without monitor if it's 
possible. Also interested in NeXTs.


						Greetings,

						Patrick
From: robinson@med.unc.edu (Gerard A. Robinson)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:09:04 GMT
Organization: UNC School of Medicine

In article <1992Nov12.222927.11390@PacBell.COM> tlhouns@ns.pacbell.com (Lee Hounshell) writes:
>Brian Keves (keves@meaddata.com) wrote:
>: No one suggested the obvious. Unless you are upgrading to a SPARC 10,
>: why not keep the IPC and just upgrade its board to a SPARC 2?
>
>That's probably Jon's best bet..  But why upgrade to a SPARC 2, when
>the SPARClassic at $4295 is a faster (or at least equivalent) machine?
>I think I read somewhere where Sun was providing an upgrade path for
>older SPARC's to the SPARClassic.  Here are Sun's benchmarks:

1) The IPC is physically different than the SS2, no board swap is available
   that'll fit in its cabinet.

2) There are no upgrades to the SPARC Classic, only to the SPARCstation LX
   the one with GXplus graphics on the motherboard and built-in ISDN.  Note
   that the Classic is *NON-DISCOUNTABLE*, while the LX is category A
   discountable and at some university discounts an LX w/424MB HD is *LESS*
   than a Classic with the same monitor and a 207MB HD.

3) I haven't seen pricing yet, but the SS-IPX is supposedly still available
   but at a lower price.  This may make the board swap upgrade from IPC->IPX
   a little more attractive, although it wouldn't have GXplus and ISDN. *BUT*
   the IPC is also upgradeable to a SPARCstation LX for $5,995 list, category
   A discountable.  This upgrade includes a 424MB HD and the external speaker
   box.  You ship back the IPC chassis with its 8MB RAM and 207MB HD.
-- 
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When I find myself in times of trouble, | Gerard Robinson, robinson@med.unc.edu
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: rbt@tous.oau.org (Robert B. Tate)
Subject: Re: WANTED: 4mm tapes for Archive Python DAT
Summary: this is where I got mine.
Organization: Tate Enterprises
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:45:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.131613.17626@cactus.org> covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert) writes:
>In article <BxH802.BLp@sti.com> westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
>>I need to get 10-20 4mm tapes for an Archive Python DAT.  They can be
>>either 60 or 90 meter tapes, and I prefer to buy new tapes.  If you have
>>some for sale please contact me.
>>
>>-- 
>>Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
>
>
>I am looking for 4mm DAT Tapes for my WangDAT tape drive also.
>
>If you got some to sell please send me email.
>Thanks
>

I had problems getting some also. I went to a local supplyer and got some
for about $12.50 ea in boxs of 5. They ere CARLISLE 4mm Data Grade
Cartridge, 60 meter. The catalog lists them at 30.95 each, but after
telling them that I know some one that got them for about $12 they sold
them to me for $12.50 ea (+tax). (I do know some, who is the one that
told me about them).

anyway, the name is COLAMCO, the phone is 1-800-327-2722.


-- 
 rbt@tous.OAU.ORG  (Robert B. Tate)       | A little knowledge is a dangerous
 {ucf-cs,peora,tarpit}!tous!rbt           | thing. Any less can kill you.
From: nickgill@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: // cables cheap price
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:27:09 MST

Centronix parallel cables (6)
$5 each
Nick
From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:27:12 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedoors.meaddata.com

In article <1992Nov11.032725.15852@lclark.edu> herlock@sun.lclark.edu (Jon Herlocker) writes:
>Forsale!!!!  Sun Sparcstation IPC
>includes:
>	Sparc 4/40 CPU
>	8 MB RAM
>	On board AUI ethernet, 2 serial ports, audio port,
>		and monochrome frame buffer
>	Color Frame Buffer Sbus Card
>	16" Color Monitor
>	207 internal disk drive.
>	All cabling, original factory boxes, and sun microphone.
>
>This full Sparc system comes with SunOS 4.1.2, and Openwindows 3.0.
>I also have installed X11R5 and several other public software packages.
>This is a wonderful system, and I have enjoyed it for every bit of the 
>4 months that I have had it since I bought it from Sun. I am selling it
>because I would like to upgrade.  I am looking to sell it for about $4200,
>but if you would like to make me another offer, by all means please do. First 
>person to offer me $4200 takes it straight.  I will also consider selling the 
>system without the monitor.  If you are interested in this, make me an offer.

I am not wasting bandwidth, so don't "n" me.

No one suggested the obvious. Unless you are upgrading to a SPARC 10,
why not keep the IPC and just upgrade its board to a SPARC 2?

Its price is too high, even though it is only 4 months old. The market
she be a moving faster every day. If you really want to sell it I
suggest taking the highest offer you have today, because tomorrow they
might change their minds about the offer.

Brian
--
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Miamisburg, OH 45343-0149 |  those of Mead or Mead   |       keves@meaddata.com
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From: jimw@empros.cxn.dec.com (Jim West)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: uVAX II/GPX For Sale
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:40:52 GMT
Reply-To: jimw@empros.enet.dec.com
Organization: Random Mixed


Article 101 of misc.forsale.computers.workstation:
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: jimw@empros.enet.dec.com (Jim West)
Subject: uVAX II/GPX For Sale
Reply-To: jimw@empros.enet.dec.com (Jim West)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 13:51:58 MST


For Sale:

	uVAX II/GPX
		8 plane
		16M memory
		TK50
		RD54
		RD53
		RX50
		VR 290  (19" Color Monitor)
		DEQNA
		DZQ11	(4 connector distribution)

  Asking $2300 or Best Reasonabl Offer
From: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:24:33 GMT
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
Reply-To: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.fnal.gov

In <1992Nov11.180805.3295@PacBell.COM> tlhouns@ns.pacbell.com (Lee Hounshell) writes:

>Jon Herlocker (herlock@sun.lclark.edu) wrote:
>: Forsale!!!!  Sun Sparcstation IPC
>: includes:
>: 	Sparc 4/40 CPU
>: 	8 MB RAM
>: 	On board AUI ethernet, 2 serial ports, audio port,
>: 		and monochrome frame buffer
>: 	Color Frame Buffer Sbus Card
>: 	16" Color Monitor
>: 	207 internal disk drive.
>: 	All cabling, original factory boxes, and sun microphone.
>: 

>Sun just today announced their new SPARClassic.  It's a 59 MIP machine and
>lists at $4,295 comes with 15" color, 16MB RAM, 200MB disk, and Solaris 2.1.
>Their new machine is twice a fast as a SPARC-2!

>Why would anyone want to pay $4,200 for a 12 MIP used machine, when they can
>purchase a *new* 59 MIP Sun with more RAM memory and the latest OS for the same
>price?

>Sorry to deflate your expectations, Jon, but I think that maybe the prices for
>older Sun equipment will drop through the roof now..  oh well.  I own a SPARC 1+
>myself, and I expect the "market value" of it will now drop to well under $2000.
Well, I can think of a couple of reasons:
1.  They want the higher resolution and higher quality monitor.
2.  They want to continue to run 4.1.X for the current time.

This ad doesn't say WHAT 16" color monitor we're talking about, but
an equivalent CLASSIC might well cost $5995, which makes the
comparison quite a lot different.  And a lot of people are giving
up 4.1.3 kicking and screaming.  A lot of people at our site aren't
going to be able to make the leap till at least mid '93.
-- 
Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.
hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov
From: jcmurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jeff Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:07:32 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1du45gINNpif@newmdata.meaddata.com> keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.032725.15852@lclark.edu> herlock@sun.lclark.edu (Jon Herlocker) writes:
>>Forsale!!!!  Sun Sparcstation IPC
>>includes:
>
>No one suggested the obvious. Unless you are upgrading to a SPARC 10,
>why not keep the IPC and just upgrade its board to a SPARC 2?
>

	why not trade in for a Sparc Classic or LX (since SUN did seem to 
indicate that upgrades would be available)?

jm


-- 
jcmurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu                   cit network installation & repair
opnsmurf@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu                                          sunyab
From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 14 Nov 92 02:23:24 GMT
	<WBE.92Nov13033117@crystal.bbn.com>
	<1992Nov13.223726.4786@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com
In-reply-to: robinson@med.unc.edu's message of Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:37:26 GMT


wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond) writes:
#The literature Sun handed out at its briefing says specifically that "Upgrades
#[to SPARCclassic] are available for SPARCstation 1, SPARCstation 1+,
#SPARCstation SLC(TM), SPARCstation IPC(TM), SPARCstation ELC(TM), Sun-3(TM),
#and Sun386i(TM) systems."  The "(TM)" indicates a "TM" superscript
#(the trademark symbol).
# -WBE

robinson@med.unc.edu (Gerard A. Robinson) writes:
>The slick brochure (that I have that matches your quote and I received at the
>announcement locally) does not specify.  However, if you ask your sales rep.
>he will only give you numbers for upgrading to an LX *NOT* an LC (Classic).

In this case, I got the quote from the back of the two-page non-glossy
description entitled "SPARCclassic".  In any case, people should ask their
sales person, and if they're told it can't be done, try asking Sun or another
sales person and see if the answer changes.
 -WBE
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: IZZYPI9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Alexander Burchell)
Subject: Wanted: Inexpensive UNIX worstation in So.Cal.
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:18:41 PST

I am looking for an inexpensive (up to $2000) UNIX workstation,
preferably located in the L.A. or So.Cal. area (to save shipping)
although I will consider any machine in my price range.
Thank You,
Alexander Burchell (IZZYPI9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: bryant@ced.utah.edu (Bryant Eastham,MEB 3116,581-5353)
Subject: What should my IPC be worth?
Reply-To: bryant@ced.utah.edu
Organization: Center for Engineering Design
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:48:45 GMT

After seeing the last posting for an IPC, I would like
to ask the opinion of those who read before selling my
IPC.

As stated by Steve Hanson, there are reasons to buy an IPC:
>   1.  They want the higher resolution and higher quality monitor.
>   2.  They want to continue to run 4.1.X for the current time.

I know that most people who read news are associated with education,
government or larger companies, all of which would be getting
discounts. There are many companies who don't get discounts and
want the stability of SunOS 4.1.x right now.


The system that I have is equivalent to the previous post, but
with 16MB more memory (for a total of 24MB). It does not have
the Sony monitor, but I like the one it has more than Sony anyway.
All said this is it:

	Sparc 4/40 CPU
    ->  24 MB RAM
	On board AUI ethernet, 2 serial ports, audio port,
		and monochrome frame buffer
	Color Frame Buffer Sbus Card
	16" Color Monitor (Not the mid range)
	207 internal disk drive.
	All cabling and sun microphone.

I would like to get enough for this setup to buy one of the
new machines.

SOOOOOOO, if you are in a position to want an IPC and don't get
any real discounts, let me know.

The list price on an IPC with JUST 8MB OF MEMORY is $7,995!

Let me know what you think VIA E-MAIL. I will post a summary if
there is enough interest.

Bryant Eastham
University of Utah
bryant@ced.utah.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: drees@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (N. Drees)
Subject: wanted LAN-Protocol Analyser
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:43:50 GMT
Distribution: dnet
Reply-To: drees@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (drees)
Organization: Fachhochschule-Rheinland-Pfalz


Wanted to buy: A LAN-Protocol Analyser
drees@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books)
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Organization: FSU nuclear physics
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:31:47 GMT

In article <BxMB70.IrD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>
>I really don't want to get into this to deep, but you seem to be trying
>to get the BUYER their money's true worth, not the other way around.  I've
>only seen one other post where someone pointed this out.  If x wants to
>sell something for too much, they get flamed, if x wants to sell something
>for too little, everyone wants to buy it.  So which is it, do we inform 
>going both ways or not at all????

So, if I post here and say I want to buy a SPARCstation II for $350 you don't
think I'll hear about it?  Your argument doesn't hold up.

>
>Todd
>

Roger
books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco)
Subject: NeXTstation for sale
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:46:34 GMT



NeXTstation	25MHz Motorola 68040 CPU
		25Mhz Motorola 56001 DSP
		400Mb Internal Hard Drive
		20Mb RAM
		17" Mono MegaPixel Monitor. Very sharp.
		NeXTSTEP 3.0 installed
		The OLD keyboard (this is a good thing)

		A developer's system, for $4,500
		I would prefer delivering somewhere in the bay area,
		but can also arrange for shipping. This machine has seen
		fairly light home use since I got NeXTs at work.

-Marcos J. Polanco
-shiva@vega.stanford.edu
-415-691-2255 (w)
-415-324-0254
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: robinson@med.unc.edu (Gerard A. Robinson)
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,alt.sys.sun
Organization: UNC School of Medicine
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:41:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.180805.3295@PacBell.COM> tlhouns@ns.pacbell.com (Lee Hounshell) writes:
>Sun just today announced their new SPARClassic.  It's a 59 MIP machine and
>lists at $4,295 comes with 15" color, 16MB RAM, 200MB disk, and Solaris 2.1.
>Their new machine is twice a fast as a SPARC-2!
>--

Well another sneaky Sun marketing trick succeeds!  If you read their little
brochure though, you'll note that the SPECint92 and SPECfp92 figures for the
new Classic are the same as the ones for a SPARCstation 2 or IPX, especially
when you consider that the CLassic's figures were generated by a couple of
generations newer SPARCcompiler than the figures for the 2 or IPX.  So the
new machines are the performance equivalent of an SS2 or IPX albeit notably
less expensive.  Anyhow this probably no longer belongs in m.f.c.w.

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Then I'll know just where I'll be;      | UNC School of Medicine, Office of
Swearing at the console.  Let me be ... | Information Systems.   27599-7045
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: acb@Ziggy.csl.ncsu.edu (Andrew C. Burnette)
Subject: Re: WANTED: 4mm tapes for Archive Python DAT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:53:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.131613.17626@cactus.org>, covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert) writes:
|> In article <BxH802.BLp@sti.com> westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
|> >I need to get 10-20 4mm tapes for an Archive Python DAT.  They can be
|> >either 60 or 90 meter tapes, and I prefer to buy new tapes.  If you have
|> >some for sale please contact me.
|> >
|> >-- 
|> >Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
|> 
|> 
|> I am looking for 4mm DAT Tapes for my WangDAT tape drive also.
|> 
|> If you got some to sell please send me email.
|> Thanks
|> 
|> -- 
|> Richard E. Covert                 covert@cactus.org
|> CACTUS                  ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert 
Guys,
Just stop in at any 'good' audio store and pick up a couple of maxell or whatever 
brand DAT tape you like.  Personnally,  Denon has the 'coolest' looking tapes,
being black and gold,  but  they are all DAT tapes,  and work just fine.
You may find mail order cheaper as well.
Good Luck,
-- 
******************************************************************************
Andrew C. Burnette  acb@ncsu.edu 
Computer Systems Laboratory 

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books)
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Organization: FSU nuclear physics
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:37:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.121957.27561@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
>
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>#        #    #  #    #  #####   #    #     #
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>         #######  #    #  #          #     ####   #    #
>

But here we are all potential buyers, and we watch out for each other.  This
is free information exchange.  Isn't that one of the things I remember from
economics as holding up free trade?  It's the justification for the
middle-man.

Roger
books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu
From: michael@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Michael of Nebadon)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Summary: Thanks, Lee
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:00:07 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <BxMB70.IrD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>ananth@hecto.cs.umn.edu (Ananth) writes:
>>The other response regarding the fact that Lee should have used mail
>>instead of posting the info.. I disagree again.. I think his note was
>>informative cuz I didnt know of the announcement and besides are
>>we not trying to get everyone their money's true worth on the net..
>
[ ... ]
>for too little, everyone wants to buy it.  So which is it, do we inform 
>going both ways or not at all????

I'm not sure why those are the only two choices, but if you're looking
for someone to pick one for you, I'll be happy to authorize you to inform
sellers that they are charging too little. In my opinion, a fair price is
one which is fair to _both_ parties. This could even be accomplished
by e-mail rather than a post since in the case of charging too little, the
seller has an incentive to come out with a new price when he or she is
notified that their price isn't Current Market Value(tm).

At any rate, I like the posts that shed light on the CMV of an item, or that
tell us about another source for something. In this case, Lee provided an
additional (and very valuable) service by informing us of a new development
which is likely to affect the CMV of *all* Sun workstations sold here... not
just the one in the original post.

michael@afterlife.ncsc.mil
From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: Complete SparcStation IPC forsale!!!!
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:31:17
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
	<1992Nov13.020904.14944@samba.oit.unc.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com
In-reply-to: robinson@med.unc.edu's message of Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:09:04 GMT

robinson@med.unc.edu (Gerard A. Robinson) writes:
>2) There are no upgrades to the SPARC Classic, only to the SPARCstation LX
>   the one with GXplus graphics on the motherboard and built-in ISDN.

The literature Sun handed out at its briefing says specifically that "Upgrades
[to SPARCclassic] are available for SPARCstation 1, SPARCstation 1+,
SPARCstation SLC(TM), SPARCstation IPC(TM), SPARCstation ELC(TM), Sun-3(TM),
and Sun386i(TM) systems."  The "(TM)" indicates a "TM" superscript
(the trademark symbol).
 -WBE
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: gyro@kestrel.edu (Scott L. Burson)
Subject: For Sale: Sun 4/110
Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:55:24 GMT


I have a used Sun 4/110 for sale.  Specifically:

  Sun 4/110 SPARC CPU (rated at 7 MIPS; binary compatible with
    SPARCstations; has FPA)
  16 MB RAM
  327 MB disk
  60 MB 1/4" tape drive
  SunOS 4.1.1 freshly installed
  CG4 color board (standard Sun color, 66Hz, 1152x900x8; also supports
    monochrome)
  *NO MONITOR*

This machine will work with either a color monitor, of the sort that I
am pretty sure is standard on SPARCstations, or one of the 16"
monochrome monitors that were sold with SPARCstation I's.  It has four
BNC connectors, with an adaptor for the standard SPARCstation video
connector; it does not directly support the DB-9 used by the older
Suns, although it is possible an adaptor could be built for that too.
If you think you are interested in the machine, are in the Bay Area,
and have a monitor you would like to try the machine with before
buying, I will be happy to oblige you.

This machine makes a fine home Unix system; it is considerably faster
than a 3/60 (like 2.5X, if I remember correctly).

Price: $1750 or best offer.

Email to Gyro@reasoning.com.

-- Scott

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