HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carlson@ab24.larc.nasa.gov (Ann Carlson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: How did you find soc.motss?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:37:05 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec20.231739.8064@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
|> How did you discover soc.motss? Did you find it at the same time you
|> found Usenet, or later?

When we first got our USENET news feed, I read the brief description
of all the available newsgroups in the periodic news.lists posting and
subscribed to all the ones that I found useful or interesting. 
soc.motss was one of the groups I subscribed to that day.  (I suppose
there are times when it's easy to tell I'm an engineer...  :-)  )
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Miracle cure for homophobic states
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:44:17 GMT

d000dlphi@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman) writes:

>We now enter another dream scenario sponsored by David Speakman...

>On Jan 21, President Clinton signs an omnibus executive order outlawing
>discrimination against the lesbigay community in all federal employment and
>withholds federal funding from all states, municipalities and other local
>governments with ant-gay rights laws.

Well, it IS possible that he may sign an Executive Order outlawing discrimination
on the basis of sexual orientation in all federal employment. I'm not sure, but
it seems to me that the second part might follow, logically.

Also, there is only ONE municipality that has an anti-gay rights law:
Springfield, OR. There are places that have passed legislating allowing
discrimination: Colorado, Concord(CA) and Oregon. But hopefully the Colorado
one will also be struck down by the courts, as the other two were.

-- 
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
0.5% of all homosexual marriages in Denmark end in divorce. [O.C. _Blade_]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rcrice@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (roger.w.crice)
Subject: Roy and Dale (was Re: Johnny Mathis)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:55:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.004912.10416@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>Poor Roy Rogers and Dale Evans were in even worse shape than that
>old holiday drag Bob Hope; their manager should be shot for allowing
>them to perform live.

As opposed to what, performing dead?  OK so maybe Dale was
having a little trouble locking on to those notes, but
geesh, give'em a break - they looked like they were having
fun.  When I get to be their age, that's exactly what I hope
to be doing - whatever pleases me.

I'm starting rehearsals now.  

>Thanks, and Noel,
>--Michael

Roger.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: nigel@stonewall.demon.co.uk (Nigel Whitfield)
Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.* (was Re: new newsgroup proposal:talk.politics.motss)
Organization: Jenny Agutter Fan Club
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 11:20:57 +0000

In article <C06H87.Kqz@panix.com> mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
>nigel@stonewall.demon.co.uk (Nigel Whitfield) writes:
> >I don't think announce is the right title for an info group. I would
> >imagine that such a group could carry documents, like texts of laws,
> >and maybe stuff like monthly postings of safer sex information and
> >contact phone numbers.
>
>How about soc.motss.answers?  (Or soc.lesbigay.answers, or whatever,
>depending on the eventual naming.)

Or how about (a late night brainwave here (!?!?))

soc.lesbigay.resources

Thinking about the amount of information available, it would be quite
easy to fill such a group with regular postings giving more detail
about a lot of the stuff in the FAQ, as well as the occassional stuff.

For instance, we could have:

Mailing lists
How to access the picture archive
How to access QRD
Useful contact numbers
Anonymous posting info
Safer sex
Other usenet resources
Codes
Summary of ages of consent by state/country

and so on....

Whaddaya think?

Nigel.
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From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.* (was Re: new newsgroup proposal:talk.politics.
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:07:50 GMT

In article <9301011518.AA09548@chaos.intercon.com> amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes:
>dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>Yeah, but to be *really* stylish we'd have to create:
>
>	soc.motss.advocacy
>	soc.motss.food
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

One enthusiastic aye!


-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543

"To invite someone to your house means devoting yourself to ensuring his
happiness the whole time he is under your roof." --Brillat-Savarin
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Attention Marky Markophiles
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:39:57 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) wrote:
>did someone demand this at an appearance?  sounds like an unreasonable
>thing for the audience to do ... remember that the artist controls
>the show ....  remember that the initial views of his calvins were not
>because the audience demanded it.

Quite true.  However, it seems a lot of gay men are willing to pay 
money to see Mr. Mark topless.  If they know they will not see it, they
will not pay to get into the bar, and the bar will lose money.  It
seems to be a business decision.

What Mr. Mark is afraid of in a gay bar is a different question.

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: penis size (was Re: Muffin on Parade)
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:48:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.C0530L.L7J
Organization: Open Communications Forum

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>In article <C02xFJ.19v@agora.rain.com> bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
>>I'm sitting at my terminal debating on whether to post this or
>>abort.  I know I'm going to get flamed by morons who can't believe
>>that anybody would consider this to be a problem.
>>Fuck it.  I'm tired of remaining silent.

>Wanna trade?

You still don't get it, do you?  Your response is a prime example
of why we don't want to talk about it.  We know that if we try to discuss 
our feelings somebody's going to respond with a flip remark or 
laugh at us for being self-conscious or accuse us of bragging.  
I can understand what women with very large breasts must have to 
endure.  They can never shake the feeling that men are only interested 
in them as an object of sexual gratification.  I can also understand 
how men with smaller penises may feel -- like they're going to be 
evaluated on the basis of their penis size rather than on their worth 
as a human being.  Well, I feel the same way!

>How big does it have to be before you feel ashamed of it?

I threw away my tape measure.  What difference does that make?
I wish I'd never posted that article now.  Every size queen on
the net has been pestering me for details.  None of these guys
ever bothered to reply to my posts before.  What kind of a message
do you think that conveys?  That I'm a piece of meat, that's what.

>P.S.: You weren't at Rooster Rock, that's for sure.

No, and now I feel more self-conscious than ever.  I feel like if
I'm ever at a motss-con in a clothing-optional situation that
everybody's going to be staring at me, checking it out.  That 
makes me feel like a freak!  No thank you.
-- 
Brent Capps                          |        
bcapps@agora.rain.com (gay stuff)    | 
bcapps@atlastele.com (telecom stuff) |
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My 5-year HS Reunion... the results!
Date: 1 Jan 1993 18:16:22 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, NJ, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In article <168CC1E2.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney) writes:

>the closet during this reunion. Tom's experience is encouraging, although
>I keep reminding myself that his high school is in New York, not Mill-
>brook, Alabama...

Small correction:  I grew up in New Jersey.  (of course, that's
implying that I have finished growing up)   I was born in Connecticut,
moved to NJ when I was 4, went to college in NJ, and now live and work
in NJ.

Tom
-- 
Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.uucp (home) -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work)
Heros falling to the ground / like hell's magnet / pulls me down / on my knees
/ I try to please his eyes / his idol eyes. / Jerking motions won't revive him
/ mouth to mount resusitation / I just lay down beside him / and idolize.
Xref: sparky soc.motss:53579 alt.politics.homosexuality:8395
From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: JON the bigot, Steve Giammarco an enlightened one ,(Re: ,,,)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 07:29:08 GMT
Organization: sgi
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
Keywords: elf jon rob Mr. Chemistry

In article <23DEC199200542313@zeus.tamu.edu>, olw7845@zeus.tamu.edu (Zeke E. Pez) writes:
>
>  [A very long list]

You forgot one.   I don't deny your right to be an idiot, either.

Just as long as you don't impose your idiocy on me.

jon.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde)
Subject: Re: Devil CD's
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:38:54 GMT


(George Dalton Madison) writes:
>Well, that depends on how you define "dance music."  To me,
>ZZ Top's _Party On The Patio_ and Molly Hatchet's _Stone In
>Your Heart_ are "dance music" 'cause they're songs I like
>to dance to.  ;-{)##]

***** DEFINITION *****
Dance Music:  Disco.  Ranges from Bee Gees, to George Michael, to Madonna
                      to Erasure.  Typically set at 120pbm, makes extensive
                      use of samples, and simple keyboard riffs.

Hokay?  My definiton, anyway... :)

>[I would love to find a danceclub DJ with the balls to mix
>from Molly Hatchet to Madonna to ZZ to Animotion to RTZ, or
>the like.... 

You and me both, kiddo!  I hear some metal clubs out in LA have
gay nights where they have rock/metal for us.  Little far for me
to commute tho'.... :(

Disco STILL sucks!

Hippie Jim


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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Small grooming question
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:15:14 GMT

ds@netcom.com (David Schachter) writes:

>6. Your skin may be oiler and more reflective than you would like in a
>   few hours.  A quick trip to the restroom will take care of that.

Swirly! Swirly!

--
thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu * John Dorrance * Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico

      You would be surprised at what resides in your insides.

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Somewhere, over my price range
Keywords: judy
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:19:17 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com


The white gingham dress that Judy Garland wore
in The Wizard of Oz was sold last week for $48,400
at Sotheby's.


FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: long-term relationships...success stories, please...
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:35:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.204114.9269@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, jontom@HQ.Ileaf.COM (J.T. Kittredge) writes:
> I just started reading a biography of the actress Sarah Bernhardt
> ("The Divine Sarah" by Gold and Fizdale). My interest in this book was
> piqued when I read (in the NYT) that the authors are two men who were
> a couple (and a well known piano duo) for forty years until one of
> them died shortly before finishing the book.

Hmm... Although I'd heard of Gold and Fizdale, and knew of them as "a
well known piano duo", I had never realized they were a couple.

> Maybe the frequent poster who is nearing his twentieth
> anniversary, R of R & J, will speak up (and tell us the story again
> how the two of you met)?

Well, I've been thinking about it. But it doesn't look like I'm going
to have time to do it justice :-) before the New Year.

The original poster (I've long since lost the article) wanted, I
believe, not only longevity statistics but some explanation of *why*
the relationship lasted. The short answer is, I don't really know why,
it just seems to be something that happened. When I have a little more
time I might be able to explain this a little better.

Oh, and the short answer to J.T.'s parenthetical question is that we
met at a job interview. He hired me. :-)

--R
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjchou@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Ri Jen Chou)
Subject: Re: Austin, TX joins Colo. Boycott
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:33:53 GMT

snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:

>I don't see how Austin could have an equal rights ordinance for g/l
>because of Texas law 26.01....but it is a real hip place.  Austin was
>one of the first cities in the nation to ban discrimination in housing
>and on the jobs in the case of AIDS....


Austin's ordinance includes sexual orientation in its nondiscrimination
list.  21.06 (not 26.01) prohibits certain sexual acts performed by 
glb, not for just *being* glb folks.  And next week the Texas Supreme
Court begins hearings on ruling it unconstitutional!

Yes, Austin is a paradise in the midst of Texas. Y'all come visit!



-- 
Ri-Jen Chou   		rjchou@decimator.sps.mot.com
Motorola Austin / Eclectic Environs
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: QW Magazine: Still in business?
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:48:16 GMT

> pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs) writes:
>> buckmr@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>>
>>Oh, also the NY NATIVE has started using Ads in the paper with a picture of
>>OUTWEEK, a picture of QW and then a picture of the Native with the caption
>>"Still Here After These Years" or some other obnoxious phrase expressing 
>>schadenfreude.
>
>What is schadenfreude?
>Is "expressing schadenfreude" anything like "throwing shade?"

Oh much more vicious.  It's the feeling of joy at another's
misfortune.  In the *faaabulous* new Oxford Book of Quotations
(thank you, Santa :-)), there's an interesting example of the
reverse emotion, in a quote of Gore Vidal's that goes
approximately, "When I hear of a friend's success, a little
part of me dies."

Do you suppose that's freudenschade?
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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Origin of the term "faggot"
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:58:27 GMT

> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>>> pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs) writes:
>>>> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>>>> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>>>>>> foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye) writes:
>>>>>>> aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel) quotes:

>>>>>>>				Guisseppe Verdi
>>>>>> 				^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sacrilege!  Impiety! Desecration! PERFIDIA!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maledizione!  Maledizione!  Maledizione!  Maledizione!
>>>>
>>>> Morte, morte.  Addio (ancora)!
>>>
>>> Il piangere non vale.
>>
>> O cessate di piagarmi.
>
>Awww...L'Italiana in Algieri, La Cerentola, and a big La Gazza Ladra
>to you, too.  :-)

Tu, tu, amore?  Tu?  Un bel di vedremo...

Sempre libera,

Rodrigo (vissi d'arte)
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From: endora@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Ken McCamish)
Subject: Re: Small grooming question
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:05:39 GMT

>shafer@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) writes:
>
>>In article <thaaang.725623801@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>>>I don't know, would Nair work? (And, tangentally, would Nair work
>>>in more... delicate places?)
>
>>The Nair euphemism is "bikini line" and yes, it does work there, or so
>>says a friend of mine who has used it.  I'd keep it off mucous
>>membranes, though.
>
And fairly far from nipples, where it might get absorbed into the bloodstream 
and cause all kinds of wonderful things . . . or not.

-Pharmacy Phag


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From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Diet differences with your partner?
Date: Sun,  3 Jan 93 18:42:12 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec31.061107.19924@reed.edu> <184744@pyramid.pyramid.com>

Sylvan Ruud writes:
>occasional vegephobe...
            ^^^^^^^^^

WONDERFUL word.  And I now have a way of approximating my
feeding habits for others!  I'm a "non-meat-eating vegephobe!"

 
() Dare to be meek.
()      -- Daniel MacKay (daniel@nstn.ns.ca)
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Austin, TX joins Colo. Boycott
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:06:37 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1992Dec30.011142.1298@lclark.edu> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>And part two is that the Dallas Police department asks if a person is
>gay/lesbian, not if they have gay sex......It is assumed that one does
>if one is gay/lesbian...that is why aI am really curious how one city
>can use the state law against gays and another just flips its nose at
>the sodomy law.

It's very simple.  Dallas is Dallas, and Austin is not.

Why is it some government agencies can use the federal law to discriminate
against gay men and lesbians, and others do not?

I was gay before I ever had sex.  Were I to declare celibacy, I'd still be
gay.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG              {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!sgiblab!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu (Amelia T. Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: 50 most popular motss.pix photos 10/21-12/26/92
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:11:20 GMT
Organization: Medical School Computer Facility, UPENN

In article <1992Dec26.220110.22101@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
> Here are the 50 most-frequently-retrieved photos in the motss archive
> from the period 10/21/92 to 12/26/92.  As I said in the first report,
> this isn't a popularity contest as much as a curiosity contest.
> Also, not to claim that these folks are any less curious-making
> than the others, but there is a definite bias for people whose names
> begin with 'a', as you might expect from casual browsing.  Nonetheless,
> I think you'll find that the results are still interesting to note.

Once again, I must ask ... "Who *are* these people (who can't or 
won't get past the "a"'s)?"

Father Amelia, who should have her picture taken in "that coat 
               and hat" for the archives.


                   ----- Amelia T. Smith -----
University of Pennsylvania     Internet: smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu 
Opinions: MINE! MINE! MINE!    NBCS: H-f-t-w++d-s+(+)k+p++e++g+  
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Austin, TX joins Colo. Boycott
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:07:34 GMT

> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>> buckmr@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:

>>Are you saying hat AUSTIN, TEXAS has had a gay rights ordinance on the
>>books since 1974??
>
>I don't see how Austin could have an equal rights ordinance for g/l
>because of Texas law 26.01....but it is a real hip place.  Austin was
>one of the first cities in the nation to ban discrimination in housing
>and on the jobs in the case of AIDS....
>
>Don't think Texas when you think about Austin....It is sort of like
>a Shangrila in the middle of the whole of the Bible belt, which starts
>just on the north fringes of town......

It's not the same since they closed down the Armadillo
World Headquarters.  But any town that has Esther's Pool,
Barton Springs and bats under the bridge is OK w/me :-)
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Need A Date for a HS reunion (New Jersey)
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:38:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec22.183846.25219
Distribution: usa
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1h7hq2INN4op@milk.Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>P.S.  Wait, does this guy have a GIF in the motss.pix archive?

Nope.  Wish he did--there's an inode waiting for the Donald any time
he wants to take advantage of it.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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