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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 22:03:57 CDT
From: <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: TEST

In article <92100.011721U27876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U27876@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>
>JUST A FILIPINO GUY TESTING TO SEE IF HE CAN POST SOMETHING.  THANX.

You fucking twit. Don't you ever waste my time by posting some shitty little te
st. Why don't get a life and post something about this girl named Rachel who
I've read is good looking. So get your finger out of your nose and start typing
You're lucky I just don't kill you, loser.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 22:03:57 CDT
From: <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: TEST

In article <92100.011721U27876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U27876@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>
>JUST A FILIPINO GUY TESTING TO SEE IF HE CAN POST SOMETHING.  THANX.

You fucking twit. Don't you ever waste my time by posting some shitty little te
st. Why don't get a life and post something about this girl named Rachel who
I've read is good looking. So get your finger out of your nose and start typing
You're lucky I just don't kill you, loser.
From: ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Amador Argete)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Did American troops kill three million Filipinos?
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:20:04 GMT
Organization: Meteorology, University of Melbourne


>>In <1992Apr15.230940.1851@scubed.com> hap@scubed.com (Hap Freiberg) writes:
>>
>>Sorry about posting. I think my email is broken...
>>Anyway, is this the Huk Rebellion that is being discussed?
>>If so, any more info?
> mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
>No, this is the sequel to the Spanish-American war which ended, three
>years or so later, with the Philippines as an American colonial
>possession... It is probably one of the least defensible actions in
>the nation's (US) history.
>Just out of curiosity, can _anyone_ find _anything_ good to say
>about this war?
So many things could have had happened if the Americans haven't been too
benevolent in assimilating us Filipinos :-)
A. Guam and most of the islands surrounding it (Federated States of
Micronesia) used to be Spanish territory governed from Manila. With
Spanish defeat in the Philippine war for independence, these islands
should by any law be parts of the Philippines.
B. Sultanate of Sulu was never a part of Las Islas Filipinas and was
only subdued with American might (and the help of the Colt .45). The
granting of Philippine independence in 1945 with Sulu as part (the
Sultan has ceremonial duties) preempted the Sulu Sultanate from joining
with the other 7 Sultanates to form the Federation of Malaysia.
C. Iloilo island declared independence separate from Luzon when the
rebels there defeated the local garrison. Without American intervention,
the Philippines could be a patchwork of states with languages, instead
of provinces with dialects :-)
D. The German Empire had its eyes on the Spanish possesions in the
Pacific in the late 1800s. During the Battle of Manila Bay, the German
Fleet was in Hongkong harbor. Veillecht, yetz wir konnen Deutch
sprechen (Maybe we can speak German now).
E. Maybe we can say that desperate situations require desperate measures
but the Aguinaldo Government was dictatorial and the men around him did
not tolerate dissent.
F. Maybe not.
From: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Brain Drain and Underdevelopment
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:58:55 GMT
Reply-To: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Organization: Columbia University

All this talk on brain drain:

An excerpt of a speech I delivered to Aquino when I paid
her a courtesy call:

"The mind does not work under a gun".


-rich
Richard Sucgang : Dept. of Anatomy and Cell Biology
Columbia University (sucgang@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu; 
de slime god         rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu)
From: b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Ilag)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Suggestion to the Image Problem II
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:52:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45255
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Originator: b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu

In article <44714@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> I suggested the initiation of an
INFORMAL network among Filipinos abroad. After 3 days without
any violent objections/flames and 3 positive comments, I'm posting 
a temporary form to be filled in with relevant information about a person's
expertise.(If you have additional comments/flames, let me know).

For those who missed that particular post, the idea of an INFORMAL network
is to take advantage of this electronic bulletin board where Filipinos
could initiate contacts and collaborations. Hopefully it may also promote   
interaction between Filipinos who plan to stay here and those who want to
go home. THe idea then is to establish a list of interested people and a
description of their areas of expertise and their other fields of interest.
This list would then be distributed to all interested parties. Additional
names could be added and the expanded list would be shared. So if one
needs to consult someone on an area outside or even within his/her field
of expertise , one could easily search  the list and contact the right person.

This proposed networking among Filipinos is NOT LIMITED to graduate students
or academicians but it's for anyone who has something to share - from
undergrads to professionals. We should stop sorting ourselves into different
classes and start seeking common ground. It is also not limited to those
with e-mail. Try to bounce the idea around and share it with people without
e-mail.

------------------------------cut here---------------------------------------
Name:
Position/Affiliation:
Research interests/Field of Expertise:
Other Areas of interest:
e-mail address:
Mailing address:
-----------------------------cut here-----------------------------------------
 send the completed form to b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu

I'll try to post again at the end of the week to update 
the list. Thanks.       

vic/leod

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\  \ / \  \ / \  \ / \  \ / Leodevico L. Ilag \ / \  \ / \  \ / \  \ / 
/\  \  /\  \  /\ Purdue Macromolecular Crystallography\  /\  \  /\  \  
  \__\/  \__\/  \__\/  \    Purdue University   \/  \__\/  \__\/  \__\/
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 21:41:46 CDT
From: <U51115@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Taal is quiet, for now


In article <92095.171524U25720@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U25720@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>
>Taal Volcano, according to PHIVOLCS and USGS volcanologists has simmered down,
>and a lot of the residents have gone back to Volcano island after several
>month
>s of restless activity.
>Mt. Pinatubo is quiet, but expect major lahars (mudflows) to come during the
>co
  Who gives a sh$# about some damn volcano that splooged over some damn town.
Why don't you post something more important like filipino girls at this school.
For heavens sake, don't waste the netnews space with your petty problems. Damn!




>ming rainy season. For more info, email me at: U25720@UICVM.BITNET
>Caloy Arcilla
>Dept. of Geological Sciences
>University of Illinois at Chicago
From: ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Amador Argete)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Condom size
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:04:08 GMT
Organization: Meteorology, University of Melbourne

In article <1992Apr11.183047.28085@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, kyig6809@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth Yerro Ilio ) writes:
|>
|> According to a study by the Department of Health on the
|> acceptability of condoms, the most common complaint against their
|> use is their size -- they are too big for the average Filipino.
|> The condoms tested were donated by the United States and the survey
|> was done in close to 2500 outlets in Metro Manila, Cebu and Davao
|> back in 1989.  The DOH AIDS prevention and control program said 
|> that they had to turn down offers by an international agency 
|> because of this reason.  BTW, the issue would not have been
|> blown up had not another group made an offer to donate condoms
|> tailor-made for Asians.
|> Source:  Philippine Daily Globe Feb 14 1992
|> 
In the movie Good Morning Vietnam, a CIA trick was to play on the Asian
preoccupation with penis size by distributing oversized condoms. The
idea was to awe the Asians on the superiority of Westerners on the basis
of penis length and girth. Truth is the condoms were very big even for
the Americans. 
Maybe the average size of the penis of a particular nationality is
proportional to the size of their females' vagina. Since there have been
no reported incident of Asian females being overly stretched by their
Western partners, the sizes must be the same.
By the way, I know someone (a Filipino) who had the opportunity to go
places and meet different women (Filipinas, Thai, Chinese, Australian,
Greek) and there had been no complaints.
From: ahmed@cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: A question on 2 interpretations of the Holy Qur'an
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:14:42 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin.

In <ku49cvINNqeo@spim.mips.com> reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy) writes:

>In article <1992Apr7.211056.6849@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mamdouh Maher) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr6.044533.2522@StarConn.com> glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis) writes:
>>>I recently downloaded the English interpretation of the Holy Qur'an from
>>>through.ugcs.caltech.edu, and I noticed some differences between this
>>>interpretation by M.H. Shakir (Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc.) and the
>>>interpretation by N.J. Dawood (Penguin Books 1990).
>>
>>  Sorry, I cannot answer your question, but it is important to note
>>that N. J. Dawood is not a Muslim, he is an Iraqi Jew. The Penguin translation
>>is largely discredited and includes too many inaccuracies to be attributed to
>>honest error. Please beware of that translation.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mamdouh Maher

>     One thing that seems to be common between the posters on the sources 
>of Islam is the sheer xenophobia they display about their religion. If it
>is such a great religion with such a great message, surely it can withstand
>the knocks of a few nay-sayers like Mr. Dawood and Mr. Rushdie without a
>billion people pouncing on them?

If it is not such a great religion with such a great message, surely you
will not find a billion people ready to defend every word of it for whatever 
price.

This sounds more logical.


>-- 
>T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)
>Religion is to history what Communism was to the 20th century - anon.
From: souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: A question on 2 interpretations of the Holy Qur'an
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:10:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr8.031043.11184
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <ku49cvINNqeo@spim.mips.com> reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.211056.6849@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mamdouh Maher) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr6.044533.2522@StarConn.com> glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis) writes:
>>>I recently downloaded the English interpretation of the Holy Qur'an from
>>>through.ugcs.caltech.edu, and I noticed some differences between this
>>>interpretation by M.H. Shakir (Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc.) and the
>>>interpretation by N.J. Dawood (Penguin Books 1990).
>>
>>  Sorry, I cannot answer your question, but it is important to note
>>that N. J. Dawood is not a Muslim, he is an Iraqi Jew. The Penguin translation
>>is largely discredited and includes too many inaccuracies to be attributed to
>>honest error. Please beware of that translation.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mamdouh Maher
>
>     One thing that seems to be common between the posters on the sources 
>of Islam is the sheer xenophobia they display about their religion. If it
>is such a great religion with such a great message, surely it can withstand
>the knocks of a few nay-sayers like Mr. Dawood and Mr. Rushdie without a
>billion people pouncing on them?
>

Sure Islam can withstand all the Rushdies or Dawoods.  It has withstood
in the history much much more attacks and attempts to discredit its
message, but the word of Allah is the highest.  As to the people
who acted in a violent manner to the book of Rushdie and the man in
Iran, they represent a miniscule percentage of Muslims, not a billion
as you mentioned.  Of course every Muslim doesn't accept cheap lies
on the prophet (Pbuh), the reaction of some is different from others.

>
>-- 
>T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)
>Religion is to history what Communism was to the 20th century - anon.
From: abas@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Jasem Alhumoud)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Borrowing Money For Israel?????
Keywords: Money
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:14:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


      I am sorry to post this article more than once, it was a mistake.
 but it is a nice article, so nothing wrong with reading it more than once.
 Unless one does not want to see the truth. THE TRUTH HURTS. Take care and
 enjoy.

                  Jasem (Dr. J.)
From: sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Zero and Arabs
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:42:11 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

--------------------------------------------------------------------
The following post is written by Ahmed Bouzid and NOT Eskinder Sahle
--------------------------------------------------------------------
>In article <1992Apr8.032426.11816@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi) writes:
>
>>I think that Arabs are overall Zero nowdays.  I am not talking about
>>individual Arabs whom you find many bright people among 
>>them.
>>[....]
>>However if you look at the situation of the Arab world, it is
>>depressing: economically, politically, scientifically, ...
>>that is what is meant by the statement, and Arabs should blame
>>mostly themselves for this.

I totally agree with Ridha: the Arab world in a tattered state, always
following and never taking the initiative.  The potential for
greatness is real and exists, but so much needs to be done.  And
the first thing that needs to be done, the first step we must take
towards bettering ourselves, is to come to the realization
that it we, the individuals, are the ones who need to act, and that
we, not anyone else, must be blamed for the backward state of our
people.


Ahmed.
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: A Call for Peace
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 14:56:25 GMT

In article <9204061025.AA15586@brachot.jct.ac.il> lando@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Zvi Lando) writes:
>
>Salaam , Shalom;
>
>good! For your own freedom! For your religion ! For our common G-d !!! We can
>work together, if we take our fate in our own hands!! 
>My hand is outstretched, who will take it?
>
>Zvi from Tekoa
>

That is fine, it looks like you are one of the moderates. My hands are outstretched too.
See you at the peace conference. By the way, you called Moslems "cousins". I know that
some Moslems and Jews avoid doing that. Can you explain?

Nabil



Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghan,soc.culture.arabic
From: mmasood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mohammed A Masood)
Subject: UN Peace Plan and Afghan Muhajideen
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:11:39 GMT

	WHY UN "PEACE" EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULD BE DENOUNCED

	*********************************************************

	United Nations has recently accelerated its efforts to bring
"peace" to Afghanistan.  The question arises where were these efforts
when the Afghan people were being killed through Napalm Bombs and the
Machine Guns of the communist soldiers?  Can the peace be established
on the charred bodies of 2M Afghans in the way UN is proposing it to
be established?  Or, does the exterminator of 2M human human beings
has a right to ask for peace?  Can we ever hope to abolish injustice
in this way?

	For those who remember WWII, would you have agreed to Hitler's
call for peace or a share for the war criminals in the German
Government when the Allied forces were just 30 miles away from Berlin?
Wouldn't it seem to be the most absurd and outrageous idea to you?
Would you have agreed to anything less than an unconditional
surrender?  Would it have been justified for the League of Nations to
promote peace at that point?

	Or, would it have been justified for Nikoli Chousesko to talk
about peace when his castle was under siege?  Would you, as a freedom
loving individual, have granted his request for peace?  Do you find
any mercy for such a criminal in your heart?  Would you have supported
any such an effort by the UN?

In a similar way, it is absurd for the UN to promote peace and a
coexistence for communists at this point in Afghanistan.  The blood of
2M Afgans is not so cheap.  The freedom fighters did not sacrifice 2M
of their brethren to see themselves robbed of a victory in the name of
peace.  

It is time for every freedom loving person to denounce so-called
"peace" efforts by UN.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: A question on 2 interpretations of the Holy Qur'an
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:57:28 GMT

In article <ku49cvINNqeo@spim.mips.com> reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.211056.6849@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mamdouh Maher) writes:

>     One thing that seems to be common between the posters on the sources 
>of Islam is the sheer xenophobia they display about their religion. If it
>is such a great religion with such a great message, surely it can withstand
>the knocks of a few nay-sayers like Mr. Dawood and Mr. Rushdie without a
>billion people pouncing on them?

What was xenophobic about Mr. Maher's view of Dawood's translation.  He
said it involves too many accuracies to be attributed to honest error.
From my reading of parts of the translation, that doesn't seem to
be an unreasonable conclusion.   

Note:   However, in the case of the specific aya mentioned, Dawood's
translation seems to me more literal than Shakir's.

>T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)

Behnam Sadeghi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.jewish
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject:  JOKE OF THE COUSINS
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:06:54 GMT

You may have heard/read this joke, but what's the heck:

    Two Jews are sitting in the window and middle seats on a plane.
The Jews ask the Arab sitting in the aisle seat to get them a glass of
orange juice so they won't have to crawl over him.  While he is up getting
the drinks, they spit in his shoes.  When they are about to land the
Arab guy puts on his shoes and realizes what has happened.  He complains
to the Jews, "When will it all end?  The hatred... the violence... the
killing... the spitting in shoes... the peeing in orange juice..."

:))  :))  :)) :))

jle
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The above represents my opinion, and is irrelevant to that of my employer
From: angel@herald.usask.ca (Joseph F. Angel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Alphabet
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:55:58 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

In article <kun75vINNkoo@pollux.usc.edu>, AAA writes:
> 
> Can someone please tell me what was the ordering of the Arabic alphabet
> at the time of the Prophet (SAW) and the revealing of the Qur'an.

The Arabic alphabet in use today did not exist then, being apparently 
evolved from the Syriac alphabet.  Quite different-looking North and South 
Arabic alphabets were in use in pre-Islamic times.

To answer your question, the true arrangement of the Arabic alphabet follows
the general Semitic scheme, viz., aleph, ba, jim, dal, ha, waw, zain, Ha, Ta,
ya, kaf, lam, nun, sin, `ayn, fa, Sad, qaf, ra, shin, ta, tha, kha, dhal, Dad,
Za, ghayn.  The arrangement today in use, viz., aleph, ba, ta, tha, ...,etc.,
appears to have been based on geometric principles, whereby similarly shaped 
letters were grouped together.  Echoes of this ancient arrangement persist in
scientific and mathematical writing to this day, where items, such as the
angles of a polygon, are enumerated thus: aleph, ba, jim, dal, etc...

Joe
From: essa@cs.scarolina.edu (Ossama Ahmed Essa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Software support in Saudi-Arabia
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:27:54 GMT
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science

kiledal@lisp.cs.psu.edu (Erik Kiledal) writes:

>Does anybody have any experience with software support in Saudi-Arabia
>of software developed in the USA? For instance, do American companies
>with support groups in Saudi generally provide help of the same quality
>that is given in the USA? Do they have the newest versions of the software
>etc. ?

 OK, this might be offensive to some Saudi brothers, but here are the facts:
  Saudi Arabia has the second largest market (after Hong Kong) for pirated
software. Simply you go to one of these shops and you will get any software for
a few more pennies than the price of the empty diskettes. About the versions,
they will have the most recent of anything. Sometimes, you might be able to get
some software in Saudi Arabia before you can get it here in the US. Talking
about support !!! I don't think so.

>Also, does anybody have any information on (possible) export restrictions
>on computer software and hardware from the USA to Saudi-Arabia?

 I think the only restriction is about the Hardware that it should not be made
in Israel. That applies for all the part of the Hardware.

>Please e-mail any information you may have, 

>Thanks!
>Erik Kiledal						kiledal@cs.psu.edu

Ossama