HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: NFS QUESTION: Timing out hard mounts
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:18:17 GMT

>>1) Since I am using the "bg" option, why does it take so long to
>>   time out the RPC request and background the mount?


>>3) What can you recommend to shorten the time it takes before I see:
>>   mount: server:/directory not responding

From the fstab (4.1.3) man page:

                    retry=n The number  of  times  to  retry  the
                            mount operation.

I *think* the default is 7.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: su not working, gives "setgid: Not owner" ?
From: chrisp@grace.cri.nz
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:03:32 GMT
Organization: Industrial Research Ltd., New Zealand.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grv.grace.cri.nz

Hi,
	I have a problem using 'su' on a sun sparcstation, it used to
	work but then started giving this error:

> su root
Password: XXXX
su: setgid: Not owner
>

	It only gives this error when I get the password right, and I 
	can log into the account directly with no problem.

			Thanks in advance,  Chris.

			Email: Chrisp@grace.cri.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson)
Subject: Sun won't fix 4.1.1 so Backup Copilot works properly
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:37:16 GMT

You may remember me complaining about Sun's Backup Copilot dump program
leaving filesystems locked, such that even root can't unlock them and the
only remedy is to reboot.  As it turns out, this occurs under SunOS 4.1.1
(but not 4.1.2) when Copilot's "lock all" option is used, and when someone
tries to write to the filesystem during the dump.

I reported this to Sun's local "Answer Centre".  Their support person
has done his best, but "resources are unavailable" to fix the problem
because 4.1.1 is getting a bit out-of-date.  It sounds like they could,
but they won't.

Here is the last-but-one message I received from Sun's local support person:

> The problem is with 4.1.1 lockd not backup co-pilot, the normal
> approach would be to use patch 100075-09 to fix it, this patch is however
> not compatible with co-pilot, the equivalent patch is 100518 which you have.
> This does the equivalent of 100075-07. We are currently trying to find out
> if the -07 version has the required fix (it would appear not, since you have
> the problem), the next step is to find out if it is possible to port 100075-09
> into 100518.  I will let you know as soon as i have an answer.
> Note:
> The problem is fixed in SunOS versions later than 4.1.1 (4.1.2,4.1.3,5.0,5.1)
> So the last resort will be to upgrade.(which is probably a good idea anyway
> since 4.1.1 is so old)	

And here is the one I just got:

> It would appear that the resources within Sun ,are not available to
> port 100075-09 back into 100518 for 4.1.1 as 4.1.1 is now 2 versions
> behind current release. Your only option to fix this problem is to use
> "lock delete" on 4.1.1 filesystems, until you can schedule the upgrade
> to 4.1.3.

> Please confirm that you can do this, and I will close the call.

So there you go.

Our next upgrade will probably be to Solaris 2.1 (SunOS 5.1) since it seems
that's our "only option" (now there's a new oxymoron!) if we want to use
any of Sun's newer boxes.  Does anyone know if and when Backup Copilot will
be available for Solaris 2.1?


Janet Jackson
<janet@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Systems Administrator
Department of Computer Science
The University of Western Australia
From: brossard@siisun.epfl.ch (Alain Brossard EPFL-SIC/SII)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption?
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:26:52 GMT
Reply-To: brossard@sic.epfl.ch
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <epang.726559024@sfu.ca>, epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang) writes:
|> System: Sun 3/50 running 4.1.1
|> 
|> Today, we installed various kernel patches, rebuilt the kernel, etc.
|> After backing up vmunix and copying the new one to /, I ran 'ps -a' to
|>  Well, 'ps' reported an error involving /dev/mem
|> (or maybe /dev/kmem...I initially didn't give it a second thought).

   Of course, since ps uses the symbol information from /vmunix
to read /dev/kmem, the new kernel doesn't correspond with the
running kernel and its memory!  One solution is to specify to
ps the name of the running kernel: ps ax /vmunix.old

|> When the system came back up, it reported corrupted blocks in the root
|> filesystem (/dev/sd0a, aka /).

   It depends what you mean with 'corruped blocks' if it was only fsck
doing its normal complaining then it was probably due to the shutdown
which wasn't done/terminated cleanly.


-- 

Alain Brossard, Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne,
	SIC/SII, EL-Ecublens, CH-1015 Lausanne, Suisse, +41 21 693-2211
brossard@sic.epfl.ch
From: rstevens@noao.edu (W. Richard Stevens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SLIP on sun
Summary: LBL cslip-2.6.tar.Z
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:57:18 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA

> i'm trying to get a free slip running on sun4.1.1.

There are *many* slips for SunOS, and it's hard to know which one to
start with.  They all seem to have the same basic origin, and then
have been modified by different people.

I'd suggest getting the latest LBL release: cslip-2.6.tar.Z from the
host ftp.ee.lbl.gov.  They just released it a month or so ago and it
dropped real easily into a 4.1.3 kernel.  It also comes with many
nice tools that you'd like (a tip that knows about slip, for example,
the ability to run shell scripts when the slip connection is established
and dropped, etc.).

Also, this version of slip has all the Berkeley packet filter hooks,
so if you get the latest tcpdump release from that same site you can
easily install the latest BPF into the kernel at the same time.  That'll
let you run tcpdump on the slip line.  (You need to diddle a little with
the Makefiles to make one tcpdump using NIT for your Ethernet, and another
using BPF for slip lines, but it's not hard.)

	Rich Stevens  (rstevens@noao.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Novell and Unix Communication
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:21:23 GMT

In article <1htbmnINN4k3@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> mickel@OES.ORST.EDU (Paul M. Mickel) writes:
>Well, The Netware SunLink product will allow transparent file xfer between
>PCs and Unix, but don't know about mail.

We run ccMail on our Novell network here, and there's a link via a gateway
to Unix mail.  It works well for the most part, although it seems to need
constant maintanance.  There are also a few things missing, like ccMail
has no real concept of a group.  For example, most of our upper level
managers get their mail on ccMail.  I'd like to make a group inner_sanctum
on the ccMail side consisting of these people, then ccMail takes care of
both exploding the group into names, and maintaining the names in the
group.  Doesn't work, I've got to define inner_sanctum in the aliases
database and explode it to several people before sending it to ccMail.
Minor nit, but ccMail groups should be maintained on ccMail, not Unix.

Probably the major problem is I know very little about Novell/ccMail, and
the Novell/ccMail admin knows very little about Unix.  I suspect this will
be the case in most small/medium companies with both networks.

jim

-- 
Plumbers Motto:  A flush beats a full house.
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Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
Subject: nslookup blows up
Organization: Recom Technologies, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:35:06 GMT


I have what appears to be a very strange problem, and it is taxing my
limited SunOS knowledge.  We have a pair of SS2s running 4.1.1 and
4.1.2, not using NIS.  On either, nslookup blows core -- all you get
is "Segmentation fault".  No matter whether the default server is
used, or a server address is specified, it blows core.

The machines appear to be functional, and I have no problems
connecting to the outside world.  

Does anyone have suggestions for solving this problem?
 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: pat@csoc.COM (Pat Allen)
Subject: Disk Mirroring
Organization: CAD Systems of Carolina
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:52:13 GMT

Is there any other disk mirroring software besides Online: DiskSuite available
for Sun machines?
-- 
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Strategic Technologies		Fax   : 919-859-0657
5625 Dillard Dr. Suite 105	Email : pat@csoc.COM
Raleigh, NC  27511		      : ...!uunet!csoc!pat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rwu@fig.citib.com (Raymond Wu)
Subject: Best way for a non-root account to update NIS Maps?
Originator: rwu@osprey
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:39:21 GMT


Different/better suggestions needed to accomplish (YP) updates..

Situation:
Multiple machine environment, root account is controlled,
passwords for the "common" accounts are administered by a "security
administrator" (changes are made to /etc/passwd via SUID program
(NOT SHELL SCRIPTS!!  8~)), and currently root is "enabled" to
perform the cd /var/yp;make.

Current ideas:
1) write SUID somethings to perform the equivalent code that the "make"
	goes through (sed, makedbm...);
2) have a root cron job look for a tickler every so often and run the make;
3) change group ownership of /var/yp tree, put administrator in that group,
	so the make can update the maps in the domain subdirectory.

Suggestions / votes?

Thanks for the help.

me
-- 
============================================================================

	Raymond Wu
	Citibank                           Phone:   (212) 657-5426
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: richard@borneo.gmd.de (Richard Czech)
Subject: Re: lprm on remote printer
Reply-To: richard@gmd.de
Organization: GMD, German National Research Center for Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:35:40 GMT

The problem with lprm(1) not removing jobs on a remote printer is
solved. It seems the client's printcap needs an entry like

	:lp=:

I added it and now it works. Thanks to 

	don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan) and
	per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: s5ubxh@fnma.COM (Behrooz Hadavi)
Subject: Changing MAXUPRC
Reply-To: s5ubxh@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:58:48 GMT

I have an application that forks a large number of processes under the same UID.
There is a field in /usr/include/sys/param.h, MAXUPRC, that appears to allow me
to increase the maximum number of simultaneous processes a user can have on the
system.  Is this the case?  If it is, then, are there any guidelines regarding
changing its default value of 25? What is the impact of changing this value on the
system?
From: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun won't fix 4.1.1 so Backup Copilot works properly
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:19:29 GMT
Reply-To: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov
Distribution: usa
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.fnal.gov

In <lkre99INNinv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> exodus@vsync.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Onufer) writes:

>In <1993Jan8.004145.12978@gtc.com> dav@gtc.com (David L. Markowitz) writes:
>>Backup Copilot is *included* in 2.1!

>From the SunFlash 47.09 ("SunSoft Launches Solaris 2.1"):

>  Solaris SHIELD will be available as an unbundled product priced at $50
>  in single quantity. Online: Backup, priced at $795 in single quantity,
>  is also available as an unbundled product.

>I don't think that counts as being "*included*" in Solaris 2.1.

>Cheers!greg
>All typical disclaimers apply.
I think the confusion here stems from the fact that 2.1 includes
the parts of the former backup copilot package that go into
the kernel (the file locking, etc).  It doesn't however include
the actual utilities.
-- 
Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.
hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: kevin@semcomp.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland)
Subject: Looking for patch 100451-27
Organization: Center for Optimization and Semantic Control, Washington University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:37:49 GMT


I'm looking for patch 100451-27 from Sun.  It's some fix for Openwin 3.0

I checked ftp.uu.net and it's not there.  Does anyone know if this patch
was included in some other patch.

Also, what is *the* source for sun-fixes?

Thanks for the help

Kevin Ruland
From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Maintaining SPARCprinters
Date: 7 Jan 1993 01:28:55 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

asb@kbs.citri.edu.au (Anthony Scott Botham) writes:

>btonkin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Bruce Tonkin) writes:


>The life of a toner cartridge can be prolonged by removing the toner cartridge
>and shaking it gently from end to end, after the printer indicates it has
>expired.   You only get a few hundred pages more, but that is useful if you
>don't have a spare cartridge !!

>After you've replaced the toner cartridge you need to power cycle the printer
>while holding down the small button near where the power cord connects
>to the printer.  This resets the internal "toner level" sensor.

>The drum cartridge (as far as I know) dies after 20,000 sheet.  (It's quite
>strict and I guess it uses the internal page count).


Actually we've gotten over 30000 pages out of a drum The first one quit
exactly at 20000. but then after resetting etc, the next one went to
30000, and the next one is still in there. The problem you have to watch
for is that the drum has a "spare toner" cavity, which if it fills up
means that you get toner leaking into your printer- not a good idea.
That was why I replaced the second drum at 30000 pages- I got worried.
.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jwh@uncc.edu (jerry holt)
Subject: Re: How do you erase a mag tape?
Reply-To: jwh@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:37:27 GMT

In article 1ikbuhINNka5@au-ns.american.edu, kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz) writes:
>
>One quick question: What, if any, is the command to erase a magnetic tape?  Is  
>that possible, or will I have to use a large magnet to erase it? 
>
>Thanks
>
>--
>Kevin Cruz			E-mail: kevin@american.edu
>Computer Science
>The American University
>Washington, D.C.
>   
>"I think Rodney King said it best when
> he said, 'Ow, ow, ow! Racism sucks!'"     -- Dennis Leary



The following will do it:

	mt -f <device> erase

Jerry Holt
jwh@uncc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern)
Subject: Re: Can't login as single user
Originator: bern@kleopatra
Keywords: sun
Organization: Theor. CS, FB IV / CS, Univ. of Trier, Germany (Internet TI.Uni-Trier.DE)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:46:38 GMT

In <1992Dec31.053235.17663@coral.uucp> jdc@coral.uucp (James D. Corder) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.163908.1495@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> efroyman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Ella Froyman) writes:
>>Hi netters;
>>I can't login to my sun sparc 2 running 4.1.2 when i type boot -s
>>Its asking for a password.
>	It is asking you for the root password.

No, James, I think it is rather the PROM Password his Box wants.

>>How do i disable this? or how do i fix it?
>	It is not broken.  Your sysadm has changed the /etc/ttytab entry
>for the console from secure to unsecure.  An unsecure console entry will
>not allow root to use the console.  Therefore, boot -s will require a password.

If it's the PROM Password, the Answer would be: Somebody used either PROM's
new Command Mode or the Unix eeprom Command to change PROM Security
(Variable secure or security-mode, depending on your Computer); Since
Ella seems to be able to do a standard Boot, he probably changed it to
"command". This means that the PROM Monitor (the Thingie taking over
when you hit L1-A) will still accept standard Boots and Continue Commands,
but asks for the PROM Password when you try to do a special Boot or to
enter new Command Mode. It's not broken, either. There can be three
possible Explanations:

o The Sysop at Ellas Site didn't do it, and some Hacker did it for him.
o The Sysop did it, but forgot to put Instructions and the Password where
  it can be found.
o Ella tries to do the Sysadmin's Work without his OK.

>>I have forgotten the passwd.
>	If you are the sysadm, and you have forgotten the root password:
>boot from cdrom, then mount your root partition and change the password
>entry file.  WARNING, an employee here [who was not in the MIS department]
>tried this, he is no longer an employee here:-(

I don't know of any other Way to work around a forgotten PROM Password
than to erase or replace the EEPROM, which probably must be done by
SUN.

Hope that helps,
								J. Bern
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mea@polaris.utu.fi (Matti Aarnio)
Subject: Re: DNS without NIS
Organization: University of Turku, Computing Centre
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:07:35 GMT

jh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Jay Harrell) writes:
>> Is anyone out there running DNS with out NIS on a SUN
>> under SunOS 4.1.3.  If so, would you let us know how you did.
>> tony@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov
>
>I'm running DNS without NIS under SUNOS 4.1.3.
>I built a new libc.so.1.8.1 using the resolver library that
>came with my Sun.  The basic instructions are in the /usr/lib/shlib.etc
>directory in the file README.  The specific instructions were mailed
>to me by some nice person on the net, and I've managed to lose them.... :-(
>I've heard that "resolv+" is a better way to go, but I haven't had time
>to look in to it yet.  My new libc.so seems to be working fine, although
>I've been warned that I may have trouble with dbx dumping core,
>and that the C compiler fails to link libdl when you have libc.1.8.1.

  That you can fix by adding   -ldl  into   /usr/lib/shlib.etc/Makefile:
	< ld -assert pure-text `${OBJSORT} lorder-sparc tmp`
	> ld -assert pure-text `${OBJSORT} lorder-sparc tmp` -ldl
(There are two of these ld -lines.. -- in case you wish to remake SysV
 libc.so as well..)
and remaking new libc..  This fits to all 4.1+ -versions.

  resolv+  can be found from all places carrying  bind.4.8.3+ -package.
(nic.funet.fi:/pub/unix/tcpip/bind/bind.4.8.3+.tar.Z  for example)

>I haven't run into these problems because I haven't done any compiling
>since I installed the new library.


>-- 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>           Jay Harrell
>Georgia Tech Research Institute, CSITL, Atlanta, GA 30332-0800
>Internet : jh26@prism.gatech.edu 	Telephone: (404) 894-4266	

	/Matti Aarnio <mea@utu.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rock@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Bill Petro)
Subject: Re: commercial backup utilities
Organization: SunSoft, Colorado Springs, CO: A Sun Microsystems Business
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:25:38 GMT

carl_r@cho006.cho.ge.com (Computer Systems & Tools) writes:


>    we are considering buying an automated backup utility that creates a
>    backup database showing which files live on which tapes...using a tape
>    pool, of course.

>    does anyone have any experiencing with UNIX backup tools which would
>    run on either HPUX or SUNoS 4.1.2/3 ? or both ???

>    we've recently have obtained an eval copy of BUDTOOL for the suns...
>    any comments on budtool???

>    another problem that i have is:  how does one "eval" this type of tool
>    with fully implementing it ?  that is, if you use it for backups, then
>    you have to use it to recover.

>    thanks,

>-- 
>       Rick Carl
>       GE Fanuc Automation N.A.
>  **************************************************
>       carl_r@cho000.cho.GE.COM
>       GE-DECNET -> CHO000::CARL_R

SunSoft's Backup Copilot 1.0 runs on SunOS 4.1.2/3 (and it's newer
sibbling Online: Backup 2.0 which runs on Solaris 2.0 and 2.1) and provides:

    o Online tape library and database
    o The SAME tape format that the standard Unix dump/restore command uses
        (that way, you can use the Unix restore command if you'd like)
    o Online operation: you can do backups on a non-quiescent filesystem,
	a unique feature.

There are other features as well, contact your SunSoft or SMCC sales rep.


Bill "Rock" Petro - SunSoft Product Marketing
From: srm@gold.gvg.tek.com (Steve Maraglia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: How to send SCSI commands to config disk firmware
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:02:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

I have some Seagate disk drives (ST41600N) that have been configured
to use 1024-byte sectors. Sun's scsi driver will only support 512-byte 
sectors.  After talking to Seagate they informed me that I would need
to send a SCSI command to the disk to change a firmware setting that
controls the sectors size. Unfortunately, Seagate did not know where
I could find/purchase a program to do this.


Does anybody now where I can get a hold of a general purpose program that
will enable me to send SCSI commands to a SCSI disk?


Please send email to srm@gold.gvg.tek.com  and I will summarize the reply's.



Thanks in-advance!
From: cudep@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SLIP on sun
Date: 8 Jan 1993 12:28:06 -0000
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: spatula.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan6.125718.13562@noao.edu> rstevens@noao.edu (W. Richard Stevens) writes:
>There are *many* slips for SunOS, and it's hard to know which one to
>start with.  They all seem to have the same basic origin, and then
>have been modified by different people.

This is certainly true, and rather confusing at times.

>I'd suggest getting the latest LBL release: cslip-2.6.tar.Z from the
>host ftp.ee.lbl.gov.  They just released it a month or so ago and it
>dropped real easily into a 4.1.3 kernel.

I have a Sun 3/50 running 4.1.1u1 at home..  Will this release run on it?
Also will it run compressed and/or normal slip?

Quite few of the variants I've seen will only run one or the other.

Cheers,
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From: chris@inconel.uucp (Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Limiting memory usage
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:57:11 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

Hija,

How does on limit a resource (such as memory) for a particular user?
Limit does not seem to support specifying users (atleast the manpage
says nothing.)

Thanks.

-Chris
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