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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: LIDAR Stealth
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:06:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <ILH.92Sep14102007@winnie-the-pooh.lcs.mit.edu> ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) writes:
>If the IR-absorbing plastic is not clear (ie., light pink) then I
>suspect it will not take very long for them to be declared illegal and
>easily spotted by police.  I wouldn't be surprised if covering your
>license plate with anything is illegal in many states even now.

It certainly isn't illegal here. I see those clear plastic license plate
covers all over the place.

>If you make your license plate light pink, how long do you think it will take
>for you to get pulled over?

But officer! You can still see the plate clearly through my plate cover!

;-)
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From: dafuller@sequent.com (David Fuller)
Subject: Re: Acura Vigor CD Changer Info Wanted!!!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 18:46:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.181244.902@sarah.albany.edu> sysjmk@sarah.albany.edu (Joe Kane) writes:
>
> this is a test of follow up - -please ignore
>
>-- 
>Joseph Kane				internet:  sysjmk@csc.albany.edu
>State Univ of NY at Albany		(518) 442-3711
>1400 Washington Ave
>Albany,  NY 12222


I don't know about the changer, but I know of a dandy turbocharger and
nitrous addition that'll make that wimpy stock CD player a real stormer...


-- 
Dave Fuller		 	All opinions expressed are my own and not
Sequent Computer Systems	those of Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
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From: stare@lonexb.rl.af.mil (Edward M. Starczewski)
Subject: Re: GMs plans
Organization: RL
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 10:45:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.044642.22480@unlv.edu> edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what GM is advertising on TV? Here's the
>commercial:
>
>(Terminator 2 sound track)
>
>(all text, no voices:)
>
>On September 9th,
>
>GM Will turn Plastic
>
>into Steel.
>
>And another commercial: (not exactly sure of the wording)
>
>On September 9th,
>
>GM Will make all of your credit cards
>
>last years model.
>
>--
>
>What it seems like is GM is coming out with a new credit card/
>financing program but i havent heard anything about it.
>
>


-- 
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Rome Laboratory           Com: 315-330-4431
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From: lucyj@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Lucy Jiang)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Factory to Dealers Incentive for Lexus EX300(again)
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:03:19 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp., E&M San Diego

We are planning to buy a Lexus ES300 in the next three monthes.

Right now, we already know the invoice price.  We also decided on 
the color and options for this car.  The only thing we do not know
is the factory to dealers incentives.  We have talked to a couple sales 
representatives at the local Lexus dealership(San Diego, CA).  They 
told us that there is no factory to dealers incentive for Lexus because 
the car sales too well.  Is that true?  If not, how can we find this 
information?  

Thanks.

Lucy
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Subject: RE: Anybody into 64-73 musclecars 
From: lorena@sdl.mdcbbs.com
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:14:44 BST
Organization: Shape Data  (A division of EDS Ltd) - Cambridge,UK
Nntp-Posting-User: lorena

In article <1992Sep08.120509.4829@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour) writes:
> 
> answer: No
> 

Well, I am - who's asking?

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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Hydrides (Was: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle)
Keywords: BOOM
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:05:38 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Sep7.173612.27505@news.nd.edu> mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.181003.19528@ttinews.tti.com> kevin@drogges.tti.com (Kevin Carothers) writes:
>>In article <2AA544AE.27353@ics.uci.edu> craigm@ics.uci.edu (Craig MacFarlane) writes:

			......................

>I wonder how they liberated the hydrogen from the metal hydride in a reasonable
>fashion.  In the Merck Index, the following is stated about sodium hydride :
>     "Reacts explosively with water, violently with lower alcohols, ignites
>      spontaneously on standing in moist air."
>For lithium hydride, the index states:
>     "No solvent known.  Rapidly dec in water to form lithium hydroxide
>      and hydrogen.  Reacts with the lower alcohols, carboxylic acids,
>      chlorine, and ammonia at 400 oC to liberate hydrogen."
>There are also the corresponding metal borohydrides which are more stable
>on the shelf but are not as reactive.  These things must be stored in very
>dry conditions even in small quantities on the shelf in our lab to aviod 
>explosions.  And any of you organic chemists out there can tell me more about
>how they go boom in the lab.  I would worry about storing large quantities
>of metal hydrides in my car and I am curious as to the manner in which the
>Germans extracted the hydrogen for combustion and what they did with the
>not-so-inocuous by-products that must be left over.  Any more info out there?
>Can you also tell me the bib info on that Scientific American article?

There is also the amount of hydrogen in the hydride.  A gallon of gasoline,
which is a carbon hydride, is about 16% hydrogen.  Methane is 25% hydrogen,
and is the highest by weight of any hydrogen compound, and with hydrocarbons,
it is not necessary to use the packaging material to reform the hydride.
How much of the energy of combustion comes from the carbon and how much 
from the hydrogen?  LiH is 14% hydrogen, NaH is 4% hydrogen, boron hydrides
are 8-20% hydrogen with most on the low side, and except for beryllium (nasty)
and nitrogen hydride (ammonia gas, not too desirable), only aluminum and
silicon hydrides even reach 10% hydrogen.  

Also, it is a major problem to get solids conveniently into fuel tanks, 
and the fuel to be burned must either be gaseous or in the form of droplets.
So one must have some method of getting the hydrogen gas out of the hydride,
and of course a method of recharging the hydride.  Of the ones listed, only
boron seems to be a practical method, if indeed it is.  Remember that a
filling up of 10 gallons of gas is about 60 pounds, which is about 10
pounds of hydrogen and 50 pounds of carbon.  

-- 
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From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: Michelin MXV tire and its competitors
Organization: clearer than blir
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:05:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.184910.4624@wam.umd.edu> fitchitt@wam.umd.edu () writes:

[about "over" inflating P500s on a 240Z]

>I expected a much bumpier ride, for some reason it didn't happen, in fact
>going over some of the crummy patches on 95, it actually felt smoother!
>I couldn't figure that out.

Quite simple really.  Pneumatic tires have their own "bounce" or
compliance.  They are therefore a component of suspension.  By varying
its pressure you are varying its spring and damping rates.  This can
either help or hamper the overall suspension.  You seem to have found
the optimum tire pressure where you are getting the best ride and
handling possible.  In my car the maker suggests 36.  I found constant
improvements in ride *and* handling by increasing pressures until I
hit 40, where the ride started getting jiggly at low speeds.


eliot
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From: battan@sequent.com (Jim Battan)
Subject: Re: THE DOOR HORROR
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 02:25:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep03.191242.16031@bnr.ca> Peon w/o Email priv (Eric Youngblood) writes:
>Perhaps some kind of magnetic strip could be placed on exposed areas that would
>act like the factory protectors, but be much wider.

My dad designed and built some elaborate protectors like you describe
for his precious Volvo, and didn't get dings, but DID get keyed twice
by people who didn't like his idea.

-- 
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From: tewheele@iastate.edu (Todd E Wheeler)
Subject: Re: RainX and RX-7 questions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:35:41 GMT

In <1992Sep8.175506.18314@eskimo.celestial.com> johnn@eskimo.celestial.com (John Navitsky) writes:

>Ok it was dumb.  I put one of those RainX anti fogging products (for inside)
>on my winshield and now I regret it.  It sounded like a good idea at the time...

>The problem is that I can't get the stuff off.  Normal window cleaners do not
>seem to do it.  What happens is that after a while a film or fog develops on
>the windows.  You wipe it off but it re-appears.  This is really a problem in
>bright sunlight since it really reduces visability and with the stuff on there
>it is hard to clean it without streaks.  Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

>Also, I'm intrested in any comments from people who have tried out/ have the
>new Mazda RX-7 R1 (or 93).  Maybe compairison to the Stealth / 300ZX / 3000GT??

>Thanks 
>john

>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  John Navitsky                        e-mail   johnn@eskimo.celestial.com
>                                               johnn@locke.hs.washington.ed
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



I don't know about RainX anti-foggers for the inside, but RainX works on the
outside of the windows.  I like it most of the time...

As for the RX-7... check the September?? issue of Motor Trend magazine for
their bang for the buck contest... the RX-7 beat the pants off of all the
other contestants.  I think it won like 6 out of 8 competition fields (or
something like that).  It seems to be quite the performance beast!!

Todd
tewheele@iastate.edu
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From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: Start of 87' Toyota Camry LE
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:55:10 GMT

In article <th1y=na@rpi.edu> cao@dali.ipl.rpi.edu (Tiehua Cao) writes:
>I just bought an used 87' Toyota Camry LE. I found that it's hard      
>to push down the accelerate pedal during the first few seconds  
>when I start the car after it is parked for several hours outside(even 
>now the temperature is not cold). Is there any problem with it? Because it
>is now still in warranty period, need I go to see the dealer? Thanks for 
>for any suggestion. 


You might want to check out the accelerator cable to see if its binding.
A binding/sticking cable would cause some difficulty depressing the pedal
depending on the severity of the situation.

BTW, my 1989 Camry wagon is also experiencing a similar problem.  Its
only the first thing in the morning, the pedal needs an extra push to
free it up, then its fine after that.  Its my wife's car and I just
haven't gotten around to checking it... but I will now!



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From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Winter tires VS All-season
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:29:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: engr.Sep12.062214.17400
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <2400043@hpsad.sad.hp.com> ggg@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Gary Goodlund) writes:
>  There is an old saying about 4wheel drive vehicles..."They'll allow
>you to get just that much deeper before it really gets stuck!" :^}

I have some friendly advice for those of you with AWD Diamond Star
cars, especially those equipped with a rear viscous coupled limited
slip (and therefore no ABS): When the snow hits, try some emergency
braking manouvers in a safe place.  200 bhp, non snow tires, no ABS,
lots of traction, and viscous coupled differentials are a lethal
combination.  Lots of Audi Quattros (the "turbo coupe") were wrecked
in the early 1980's before they got ABS on the cars because the car
gave too much confidence to the driver.  And they didn't have VC's
either, which are supposed to add their own destabilizing bite as
well.  I see parallels.


eliot
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: vkrishna@iienext3.cim.eas.asu.edu (Vinu K. Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Speeding Ticket
Keywords: Speeding Ticket
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:41:56 GMT


My friend from Arizona got a speeding ticket in California during a tour.

Does this affect his insurance.
Can he attend traffic class, if so where? in Arizona or California???

What are the other options

Thanks in advance
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From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:13:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.144317.14864@spdc.ti.com> burris@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jim Burris) writes:
>What are some GOOD reasons not to recycle?

There is essentially just one.  Much recycling is actually a waste of SOME
resource, whether it is human labor, energy, organization, skill, or other
resources.  One thing that makes free markets so efficient is that it makes
ALL of the costs of a course of action obvious.  Think about it.  If you
recycle your cans, how much time do you spend separating them?  How much
gas do you burn taking them to a recycling center?  How much gas do the 
recyclers use hauling them away?  How much labor went into building those
trucks?  How much capital?  What could that capital, labor, steel, and
rubber have been used for instead?  The bottom line is that government
interference aside, if you make a profit by recycling then it's worth
doing, if not, it's not.

Think about it...does anyone have to pass laws to force dentists to recycle
gold?  Why not?  Because gold is very valuable.  A tiny scrap of aluminum or
glass is simply not very valuable.

--Brian

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From: gill@eagle (Warren Gill)
Subject: Re: Olds Achieva info?
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:42:41 GMT

   The Olds Achieva SCX is a performanced packaged version of the Achieva Sport
Coupe.  It is similar to the W41 performance package found on the former Cutlass
Calais Quad 442.  The SCX package includes:  190HP High-Output Quad 4 engine,
rear spoiler and front fascia w/driving lights, stiffer suspension (dual rear
sway bars), a 35mm wider rear track, 14" aluminum wheels and performance tires
(Comp T/A's usually), a sport-ratio Getrag-designed 5-speed tranny, and a sport-
tuned version of the Command-Ride computer. A very nice car. I got to drive one
a few weeks ago, and the car is very smooth. However, I think I like my Quad442
better; it's got a firmer grip than the Achieva (just my opinion), although
they're basically the same, chassis-wise.  Price-wise, I think it's very
reasonable.  The W41 (SCX) package lists for $2495, and you are required to add
a fewer other options (like air, power windows, radio, package 1SC).  There is
also a non-air package (this one should be a real screamer!).

   Please note this information is for the 1992 models, not the '93.  I heard
Olds was going to *reduce* the horsepower on the Quad4, Quad OHC, and H.O. Quad4
engines for 1993 to help cut down on some of the noise (although I couldn't
complain about mine).  Best of luck.  You can probably find one around for about
$18,000 sticker.

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From: mdresser@pbs.org (Melanie Dresser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: MPG (was: Re: Honda Civic Bashing continues...)
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:32:45 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <BOWERS.92Sep1104005@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>, bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
> In article <7740214@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider) writes:
> 
>>mikeq@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley) writes:
> 
>>>I have a VX that gets an honest 55 mpg and cost me less than 9 k (through
>>>an auto broker). Top that, Detroit!
> 
>>        The Geo Metro XFI is still the winner in the highest EPA city and
>>        highway MPG figures. It is higher than the VX. Since Geo is sold
>>        by GM, in a sense, Detroit did "top that" and has for several
>>        years.
> 
> _Road & Track_ (or Rod & Truck, dependant on their latest review of my
> fav cars :-), went and visited the UC Davis folks (high MPG record
> holders) with a Civic VX and a Metro.  Using the UCD techniques the
> Honda got 105 MPG (!?!) and the Metro got 108 MPG (!?!).  This at an
> average speed of 20 mph.
> 
> Impressive.
> 
> On a personal note, I owned an old '67 Porsche 912 long ago.  It got a
> reliable 32 mpg on the highway and dropped to 18 mpg in town.  The 912
> would run 0-60 in 12 seconds and hit the 1/4 mile in 18.6 seconds and
> hit 120 mph on level ground and _lots_ of room.
> 
> Now I have an '82 Alfa Romeo GTV6.  It gets a reliable 34 mpg on the
> open road and drops to 22 mpg in town.  It will go 0-60 in about 8.4
> seconds, hit the quarter in 16.4 seconds and tops out at 130+ mph.  We
> have come a long ways, even in a few short years...
> 
> --
> "Time is simply the illusion of the passing of history, and history is
> simply the illusion of the passing of time..."
>                                 -The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
> Iaido   Takamine   Hobie   Rossignol   Alfa GTV6  Ducati MHR(DOD #900)

I have an 88 Honda CRX HF which was rated by EPA when I 
purchased it at 50 city 56 hwy.  I usually get 45-50
city and 55-58 highway.  Though once I got 67 on a trip.
(and before you question if the tank before or after was
full--yes, and both had fairly average mpg on them).
The airconditioner will knock it down to about 43-44.

And this is with 4 cylinders, doesn't that GEO only
have 3 cylinders?  For a high MPG vehicle, my CRX has
more get up and go than any other little car I've owned
in the past.

I love my CRX and am extremely disapointed that Honda
has stopped making them.

Why can't they make more cars that can do this??

Melanie
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From: bsmg9810@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bhaskar S. Manda)
Subject: Re: them's the brakes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:54:47 GMT

welty@balltown.cma.com (richard welty) writes:

>it seems to me that the quickest way to put this whole disk vs. drum
>brake discussion to bed is to summarize the basic content of _The
>Brake Handbook_ (Fred Puhn, HP Books 328, ISBN 0-89586-232-8)

>1) Servos vs power assist
    . . . .
>4) more on fade
    . . . . . etc. 
>so as far as i can tell, there are only two things you give up with
>disk brakes:  1) an easy handbrake installation  and 2) you need power
>assist of some sort.  other than that, they're a clear win.
						  ^^^^^
>richard welty                            518-393-7228
>welty@cabot.balltown.cma.com

Clearly, the type of brake used depends on the application. For example,
medium and heavy trucks use S-cam drum brakes, most cars use disc brakes,etc.
A statement like the one above - "they're (disc brakes) a clear win.",
without any context (specific application) does not carry weight.

Bhaskar(bhaskar@orion.me.uiuc.edu)

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From: michaet@hubcap.clemson.edu (michael dale townsend)
Subject: Re: Fog out of A/C Ducts
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:25:09 GMT

finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan) writes:
>|> |> The Air Conditioning ducts on my Infiniti G20 blow a white, mist-like fog
>|> |> when the air has been on for a while.  No odor.  The flow seems inter-
>|> |> mittent, as if a result of the compressor cycling on/off.  Any ideas
>|> |> on what's going on?  Is it Freon, and am I about to die from inhaling it?

>Don't panic yet.  Usually with a heater core leak there is SOME smell
>of burning coolant evident.  It sounds as if you are seeing simple
>vent condensation, which will occur on days when the humidity is high.
>When the compressor cycles back on, condensation will form at the
>vents.  It should quickly dissipate as the air in the car is again
>dehumidified.

>Kenneth
>finnegan@navo.navy.mil

I will agree . . . That happens to my car down here in South Carolina
where it occasionally gets humid. :-)  When I put the air on MAX
(recirculation) the vapor is no longer visible.  When I put it back on
NORM (fresh air), the vapor IS visible.  This leads me to believe that
it is simple condensation.  One time, while driving on I-95 in the
swampy coast of southeast Georgia, in June, the dash looked like a fog
machine.  I haven't died yet.
Michael Townsend      <michaet@hubcap.clemson.edu>

         




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From: singh@r-node.gts.org (Rajendra Singh)
Subject: Snow Tire Size and Speedometer effects
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:58:52 GMT

I just bought four rims and snow tires for my car.  My question is, how will
the size (diameter, not width) affect my speedometer readings?  The diameter
of the snow tires are larger than the summer tires I have on at present.
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