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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Cages
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:59:35 GMT
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor

Cages is one of those strange books that I really enjoy, but am reluctant
to recommend. Its just not for everyone. The last issue was little more 
than a couple spending an evening together at a bar. Now I like the way
the time just "flew by" and the way McKean drew it. However I don't 
think everyone is ready to pay Tundra prices for the experience. 

Officially, it is a bi-monthly (every two months) publication. It comes
out as regularly as Love and Rockets. Basically, a new issue of Cages is
an unexpected surprise. 

BTW, the cat may be my favorite part of the book. McKean catches felinity
nicely with few details. The best line of the book so far is the cat 
adage, "A dead mouse has no entertainment value." Well at least I liked it.

"What do you think?"
"Well, I think that twinkle is a really nice word..."
--
 Lance "The Weasel" Smith  | "He which brings no hustle to this game
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  Let him depart; his waivers will be cleared,
  There were Giants in the |  And dollars of contract put into his wallet:
     Stick in those days   |  We would not play in that man's company"  Hrbek V
From: mbraun@neptune.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Matt The Hoople)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Biz quitting Lobo?
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:17:43 GMT
Reply-To: mbraun@urbana.mcd.mot.com
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Somewhere in Motorola


In article <1992Aug20.110938.9436@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
nudd@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nai Ying Kwok) writes:

|> The thing is, you guys haven't seen the stuff "The Biz" is really capable
|> of. Compared with Slaine and JDvBatman, Lobo is crap (badly drawn 5
|> minute scribbles). Bisley is at his best when fully painting stories.

I sort of agree--his painted work is among his best, no doubt, but he can do
some *fantastic* line drawings as well.  Check out Titan Books' "ABC
Warriors: The Black Hole" which is all pen and ink drawings--no paint.
That's what turned me on to Biz's work in the first place (long before he
started working for the big two.)

It's not that he can't (pen and ink) draw well--it's just that with Lobo, he
isn't. I couldn't believe that was his work, the first time I saw it.  I was
really disappointed--it seemed for the most part crowded and a little
sloppy.  He can cover that up with paint (he's got a really nice style--at
times reminiscent of Sienkiewicz) but for line drawings, he's got to be
careful.  

Obviously, with Lobo's Back #2, he paid a little *too* much attention to
detail...  :-)
					m@

+-mbraun@urbana.mcd.mot.com-+--Experiments that failed too many times -----BOC+
|   Matt Braun -- Motorola, |    Transformations that were too hard to find   |
|  Urbana, IL Design Centre | Poison's in my bloodstream, poison's in my pride|
+---------------------------+--- I'm after rebellion, I'll settle for lies----+
From: mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: San Diego Con Horror Story
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:25:21 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

Steven E Barnes writes:

>Scene in dealer room, with Fanboy looking at issues of
>Youngblood #1:
>
>Fanboy: "How much?"
>Dealer: "$3.00 each"
>Fanboy: "I'll take all of them"
>Dealer: "OK, that's 33; take two more comics and I'll call it an even
>         $100"

	*GASP* 

	This didn't really happen, did it? Oh the humanity....


--
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu       "Come, come Slygg..."                    +
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                                                  +
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Re: The Care and Feeding of Comics
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:32:12 GMT

In article <BsvH50.DzH@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> jtpoupor@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Poupore) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.023220.10795@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>> In article <13990@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:
>From what I've heard the best place to sell comics is in the North West 
>Territories.  You can get double to triple list price!!!
>(Depending on the comic of course ;-)
>
>Even the trashy ones that we sunk money into thinking it would be worth 
>something sell not too bad :-)
>
>The only problem is of course the airfare and such but if you can work it 
>it's a gold mine.
>
>There is also a store in Guelph, Ontario, Canada (Darn can't remember the name)
>that pays up to 50% (as high as 75% on certain comics, I believe) of list 
>price!!!!
>
>Nice to know if you live around here!!!  
>(Not that I could bring myself to sell them unless I REALLY needed the cash :-)
>
But wait, if you haven't noticed, there is a special 125tAnniversary
sale going on right now where students can fly anywhere in Canada for
$250 return for the rest of the year. You could see the scenic NWT and
dump your garbage (meaning low value comics. We are eco-responsible
around here) at the same time. Great!

Of course, you then have to worry about being eaten alive by mosquitos.
Such are the hardships of a comic collector.

Find out the name of that shop in Guelph!

*************************************************************************
* Craig Welsh                  *    "I'm a few bricks short of a       *
*                              *     load, but a full load always      *
* cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca     *     hurt my back."                    *
*                              *     "Crazy" - Barenaked Ladies        *
************************************************************************
* "Homeboy from Hell." Screw that. I'm the Waiter from Hell.           *
*  You figure out which is scarier.                                    *
************************************************************************
From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Joyous Day??(was Re: DC Shakeup??)
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:41:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug18.234104.13093
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Aug18.165013.2453@news.nd.edu> mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu  
(michael kelly) writes:
> 
>  mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston) writes:
> > bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J.  
> >Mann) writes:
> >> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
>    [minor bit about Jonathan Peterson having no talent..]  
> 
> >> Actually, Peterson did quit DC...while at the Con.  Seems he's going  
to  
> >write
> >> a book with the Image gang.
> >
> >Is this a joke?  It's gotta be a joke.  I assumed that only *popular*  
(by  
> >fanboy standards) people worked for Image.  Although, now that I think  
> >about it, Peterson would fit write in since his total crap writing is  
at  
> >the same level of most of the Image gang.
> 
>  Hmmm, I'm confused, the origianl article was about LSH, so I sort of
> assumed that it was Brandon Peterson (the artist) that was meant, even  
if
> the original poster wrote Jonathan Peterson. Is Jonathan Peterson the 
> current writer for one of the Titans books? All I remember him writing 
> was a purely horrific couple of stories in Captain Atom's waining days.
> 
> 	These literary treats included: "Pops" the most powerful DC
> telekinetic, and "Killer Zombie Dolphins" - a team up with Aquaman. 
>

Johnathan Peterson is the EDITOR of the Titans books.  You know, the guy  
who keeps saying, "Just stay with us for 10 more issues and things will  
get really exciting."

I thought "Pops" was written by Kelly Puckett or KC Carson.  I kind of  
liked it.  "Killer Zombie Dolphins" was either Dan Raspler or Kevin  
Dooley.  Peterson wrote the horrid Armegeddon: Alien Agenda which featured  
the good Captain, the evil Monarch, some pathetic aliens, and every comic  
book cliche you could think of.

Michael J. Winston
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Claw )
Subject: Re: Information needed Re: Thor, FF
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:47:56 GMT

In article <65756@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>Can anyone out there post or e-mail me the issue numbers for Simonson's run
>on Thor and Byrne's run on the Fantastic Four.  Both of these runs were
>going on when i was just getting into comics, so i have sporadic issues of
>both, but would like to go back and complete them.  
>
>Thanks.
>
>JRjr
>-- 
I don't really collect FF, I only collect Dr. Doom comics. However, here
are Bynes FF/Doom issues: 236,246,247,258,259,260,268,278,279,287,288. I
don't know for sure if he did the issues in-between. IMHO, these are
the best drawn and written stories in my Doom collection, rivalled only
by the Wolfman/Pollard/Sinnot team-up.



-- 
-p. minutillo

"Go-go gadget copter!.....No,no--NOT gadget roller skates!..AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!"
    ---Inspector Gadget (from just about every Inspector Gadget episode!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jwf@kastor.ccsf.caltech.edu (Jon Flower)
Subject: Ambush Bug/TICK/Etc.
Keywords: Interesting, more info
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:57:33 GMT

Hi!  I've recently become a big Tick and Ambush Bug fan (related only
in the sense that both are VERY funny).  Could anyone help me out on
the history of these characters?

What I know:

	Ambush Bug appearances:
		Ambush Bug 4 issue mini-series
		Son of Ambush Bug 6 issue mini-series
		Ambush Bug Stocking Stuffer
		Ambush Bug Nothing Special

	Tick:
		Issues 1-11 exist.

I believe the Chroma-Tick's are colorized reprints of early tick issues,
yes?  What other significant Tick or Ambush Bug stories exist?

Also, can anyone recommend other good books in a similar (funny) vein?

					Wendell (whicken@parasoft.com)
					[guest on jwf's account]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: rec.arts.comics.image?
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:57:15 GMT

Is there enough interest in rec.arts.comics.image to go through
the motions of CFD,RFD, and so on?

I can't be the only one who likes them!

:)

Scott

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun)
Subject: Re: grendel
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:03:47 GMT
Keywords: Interesting, more info

In article <1992Aug12.184536.16540@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
> 
> Anyway, here's a loaded question for you all out there. Could someone
> give a BRIEF summary of the series so I can better understand what is
> happening.

The best SHORT description would be the blurb in the inside front cover
and the stuff Wagner wrote in the lettercol.  A long description would be
a term paper.  :-)

Interesting note:  this issue is labeled as "Chapter 41: Devil in the Desert".

> I can't find any issues around here yet and don't have any
> money left over anyway (see my posting on marketplace). Is there a TPB
> out reprinting the old stuff?

There are several, ALL out of print:
- DEVIL BY THE DEED.  The story of the "Hunter Rose" Grendel and his eventual
  downfall.

- <name?>  The story of Christine Spar, Rose's granddaughter, who became
  Grendel to avenge the death of her son by the vampiric Tujiro.

- Another TPB showing Brian Su Ling's (Christine's friend and occasional
  lover) descent into the Grendel persona.

The first TPB collects the Grendel story that originally appeared as a backup
in selected issues of Wagner's MAGE (a fine series on its own right).

The last two TPBs cover the first 16 issues of the run of the GRENDEL comic,
which ran for 40 issues before Wagner ran out of ideas at the time.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Elfquest: New Blood
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:32:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I picked up a copy of Elfquest--New Blood in San Diego, and was pleasantly
surprised.  The worry, of course, was that it would be a forum for printing
trash set in the Elfquest universe, just another way to milk Elfquest fans.
In fact, although the different artists brought vastly different styles to
the comic, the stories were uniformly enjoyable and true to the spirit of
the original (albeit with a stronger tendency to be silly).  If you (still)
like Elfquest, you'll want to read this.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   'T is with our judgements as our watches, none
   Go alike, yet each believes his own
		--Alexander Pope
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Ambush Bug/TICK/Etc.
Keywords: Interesting, more info
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:51:02 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

Robert Loren Fleming did the Fanboy Press bit in the module "Don't Ask!"
     Dave Van Domelen, "Wanna buy a paper so I can get a time machine?"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Good Week Reviews, 8/22/92: THE HULK 398/Ghost of the Past 2
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 02:24:49 GMT

Good Week Reviews is an irregular series, published whenever
spare time and a good batch of comics happen to converge.  This
week, praise Ghu, is one of those weeks.

Rating scale: excellent, good, acceptable, poor, awful

Comparisons: Caraway Rye is far tastier than Wonder

Editorial Comment: I *hate* when the all the followups to a review of
eight different books all get lumped under the Subject of the review
title.  Eight different threads under one subject.  Feh.  Each Good
Week Review is posted separately with the issue in the Subject line.

THE HULK 398/Ghost of the Past 2
Writing: Peter David
Art: Dale Keown (pencils), Mark Farmer (inks), Glynis Oliver (colors)
Ratings: Writing acceptable, art acceptable, overall good.

How do you get acceptable on story and art with and overall rating of
good?  History, and a couple of moments of good in writing and art.

Peter David is the most entertaining dialog writer in comics.  Some day
Hollywood will discover him and he'll spend the rest of his life
getting rich writing for Linda Harris and Bloodworth-Thomas.  Until
then we'll enjoy him for what he is -- a witty writer.

That said, lately THE HULK has been long on puncheminnaface.  This may
do wonders for sales, but it detracts from the things I like about
Peter David and THE HULK in particular.  For me, the high point in the
last five years was Bruce/Joe sitting on the edge of a bed having a
conversation with himself.  Pointless fights like the one with Trauma
(had to look up his name, it was so memorable) are a waste of my
money.

So why buy it?  Little jewels here and there.  The Leader announcing
the Hulk will duck.  For the first time I can ever remember, a
character is blasted in some high-energy fight, and his clothes get
burned off.  Great little lines like "Don't hurry on my account." A
fascinating and chilling visual sequence on pages 23-24.  At a buck-
seventy-five, it's still worth picking up.

There's a lot of things dangling plot lines I'd like to see dealt with
in the near future.  Doesn't Doc Sampson ever follow up on his
patients?  What was going on with the Gamma Gang (I think that's their
name) between the time of their creation and now?  Whatever became of
Street Singer Hulk?  Will Better remember that she has a husband?  Is
the cause of The Leaders inferiority complex a problem for her?

Spoilers below:

It looks like Marlo is dead, and story-wise there doesn't seem to be
much point to it.  A neat character when introduced, she's been watered
down and down and down until practically a non-entity.  Now exit stage
left, ho hum.  In fact, there doesn't seem to be much point to the
entire arc with her, Rick, and the madwoman.  It's been done too many
times and much better by others.
-- 
 "Voodoun is a very interesting religion for the whole family, even those
  members of it who are dead."
		-- "Good Omens", by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: The Care and Feeding of Comics
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:40:54 GMT

In article <77858@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) asks:

>This brings up an interesting net.question:

>Who else has a complete run (or just a load of issues) of a particular title
>that will never be worth a damn thing (at least from a monetary standpoint),
>but that you've kept anyway?

I have a complete run (all 7 issues!) of DC's Secret Six; I read about
it in one of Don Thompson's (co-authored) comic book books (:-), and
it always intrigued me.  Imagine my joy when it was a feature in
Action Comics Weekly a few years back, after about 20 years in
hibernation.  Also, I have a complete run of 'Mazing Man, also from
DC.  It never was popular, and the last issue (#12) of the regular run
was popular for a while only because Frank Miller did the cover with
the Dark Knight on it.

>I have a complete run of Eclipse's FUSION and a good portion of the ZOT! 
>series, in the same boxes with the semi-valuable stuff like a 1st printing
>TMNT #2. They're not worth much, but I wouldn't trade 'em for anything. Anyone
>else have a "sentimental collection" too?

Both of the above comics I would consider sentimental (heck, the
entire collection "is sentimental", but I think I understand you).
Also, I don't think Zot! will be cheap for very long.  People will
discover McCloud's genius (okay, I might be dreaming).
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: faill@gca.com (Peter Faill)
Subject: Re: The Care and Feeding of Comics
Organization: GCA Corporation, Andover MA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:50:06 GMT

In article <BswHLL.72x@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.040403.28897@u.washington.edu> phaedrus@milton.u.washington.edu (Phaedrus) writes:
>
>>     This really has me curious; what exactly is it about comic book protection
>>that makes it such a forbidden topic, even among those who do it?
>
>Possibly it's because the primary reason for using a bag is to preserve the
>comic's resale value.  Therefore, if you use one, you seem to be  interested
>in money rather than reading.  If you'd rather read it than sell it, a bag 
>just gets in the way. 
>

A bag protects the comic.  The reason why someone may want to protect a comic
can vary.  They can protect it to preserve it's resale value as you've pointed
out.  Or they can protect it to preserve for another day of enjoyment, whether
it be reading it, viewing it, or sharing it.  I am sure collectors have many
other reasons for protecting their books.


From some other article:
>     I should have guessed that this was the reasoning in at least some
>people's minds; every time I show up at a comic store with my neat little
>computerized list of my collection and my wish list, everyone either thinks I
>work there or that I'm the ultimate fanboy.  Then I show them the "Average
>Condition," "Average Value" and "Total Estimated Resale Value" columns, and
>that cures them of those delusions real quick-like. :)

There seems to be this reoccurring idea that if you like high grade books and
you spend alot of money on them, your some kind of jerk.  I appreciate sharp
looking, older books along with most anything else that is old and well cared
for.  These sort of stuff usually costs alot of money since its so rare.
Please explain why I would be 'the ultimate fanboy' or any other negative
connatative term.

By the way, I use mylar snugs and acid free backing boards in order to keep
my collecting in the best shape I can.
-- 
Peter Faill
GCA Corporation 
Andover, MA
faill@gca.com 						
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From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: Re: The Care and Feeding of Comics
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:55:16 GMT

In article <14110@auspex-gw.auspex.com> hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng) writes:
>In article <77858@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>>
>>Who else has a complete run (or just a load of issues) of a particular title
>>that will never be worth a damn thing (at least from a monetary standpoint),
>>but that you've kept anyway?
>>
>
>Well, I've got a complete run of "Tailgunner Jo" and "The Wanderers," both
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                  Fun series!         ACK! FOOEY! ;)

>of which I bought at 6 for $1 at San Diego. Then I've also got #1-10 of
>"Omega Men" and "Alien Legion," none of which are worth beans, but I keep
>them because I've got nothing else to do with them!

One series that I can remember off of the top of my head that I'm
sure I have the entire run of is "Sun Devils", cause I bought
the entire set cheap rather than try to remember what issues I missed.

BTW, is it my imagination or was there severe problems with comics
distribution in the early to mid '80s?

To sum it up: "Ms. Tree is a monthly title?" -- Myself after discovering
a half-dozen issues at a small con that I had never seen before even
though I subscribed to the title at the local comics shop.  See what
happens when you don't store titles alphabetically? ;)


-- 
Paul Ortega			|  "Does this mean that we have
2015 Cedar Bend Dr., #1105      |   to fight now?" - Selina Kyle
Austin, TX 78758		|_______________________________ 
(512) 832-9197			ortega@cactus.org
From: lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What a week!
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:10:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor

In article <25513@dog.ee.lbl.gov> watts@csa3.lbl.gov writes:
>Amazing.  New Sam & Max, new Milk & Cheese, new Ren & Stimpy.

You forgot: New Bill & Ted.

(A comic that is much better than it has any right to be. Mainly because
 Ev is doing that when isn't busy with destructive Dairy Products.)

The local comics manager was calling it the "Week of the Ampersand."

>I feel curiously refreshed.

I know what you mean. Somehow I feel oddly satisfied. 

I believe the upcoming week also offers some good titles.
--
  Lance "On Vacation" Smith    | "Upon the corner of the plate
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)        |  There hangs a curve ball to be hit;
  More replica World Series    |  I'll smote it ere it reach the mitt."
  rings than David Thornley    |          "The Scottish Player," III. v. 23