HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: moving alt.vampyres -> alt.horror.vampyres
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:55:01 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In <Bxvq5y.2uE@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>[statements about keeping alt.vampyres where it is deleted] 
> I have difficulty taking those statements seriously, since you don't
> bother to justify them with examples of how the move to alt.horror
> would hurt alt.vampyres.

One good reason is that we would end up with two vampire groups.  Some
systems would alias them one way, and some would alias them the other,
and some would carry both groups, and some would carry one but not the
other.  That would lead to fragmentation of the discussion. For
examples of problems caused by attempts to rename groups see:

alt.rush-limbaugh/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
alt.dragons-inn/alt.pub.dragons-inn/alt.games.dragons-inn,
alt.transgendered/alt.sex.trans,
alt.bbs.waffle/comp.bbs.waffle,
etc
-- 
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E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: pamela@sscux1.ssc.gov (pamela gurd)
Subject: Re: alt.adoption
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:09:25 GMT

I'm interested in this group as well.

Pam Gurd.

Newsgroups: alt.config
From: bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford)
Subject: alt.tv.snl (was Re:  alt.saturday.night.live)
Reply-To: bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford)
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:33:20 GMT


Right, alt.tv.snl is a better name.

DB


In article <1992Nov16.134129.7569@julian.uwo.ca>, bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford) writes:
|> 
|> >From AGRANT@mta.ca:
|> 
|> >        If it is possible could you please start a newsgroup for
|> >me and could you call it Alt.Saturday.Night.Live
|> 
|> >Thanks Very much
|> 
|> >--Andrew
|> 
|> 
|> Well, is there demand for a.s.n.l.?
|> 
|> DB
|> 
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Followup-To: alt.config,alt.discordia,misc.test,talk.bizarre
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:23:36 GMT


Well, there seems to be considerable interest in a spam group.  I will
create one, but I am torn between creating alt.fan.spam and
alt.horror.spam.  Right now, I am leaning toward the latter.  Post
or your name vote today!



Ta-ta for now,
M
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: kruegek@stein.u.washington.edu (Kirby Krueger)
Subject: Re: Create alt.tv.chips
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:14:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.024744.13687@muddcs.claremont.edu> rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu (Russ **Crow T Robot** Linnemann) writes:
>
>I think an alt.tv.chips group would be a great idea.  After all, there 
>aren't that many other people in Claremont who I can mention
>CHiPs around without getting badly flamed.  A new group would be perfect
>for these discussions.  I'm all for it.
>--Russ--

Translation: I'm the only one I know that likes the show. Let's make a     
newsgroup so I can find others who do.

Excuse me, but shouldn't things get newsgroups that have a lot of interest,
not things that interest is so sparse that it'd take a worldwide group to
find other people who share that interest?  And if we start newgrouping
things like this, we'd open the door for alt.tv.brady-bunch, alt.tv.gilligan,
and basically any show that anyone can remember.  It makes sense to have 
groups for shows that have huge viewerships, like trek or twin-peaks (when
it was on, at least.)  Chips doesn't have this.

Save the altnet!

Newsgroups: alt.config
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia,alt.spam.tin
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Date: 21 Nov 92 20:20:59 GMT
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <92319.154407IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
|We of the Spam loving minority wish a Newsgroup of our own.  We want a place
|where Spam can be slung freshly everyday, for all to see and gawk at!.  We are
|perfectly serious.  We only want ONE measly alt group, not the many, many that
|our sla...er members suggested.  Spamists arise!  Post your support for all to
|screem at!!


	"alt.spam.tin" may be what you're looking for -
	136 postings have arrived here for it so far.


	It was created 4 April 92 by "bigmama@unkaphaed.UUCP"


-- 
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From: matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.fan.callas
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:39:49
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group)
Reply-To: matt@physics.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: johnson@physics.berkeley.edu's message of 22 Nov 92 22:01:38

In article <JOHNSON.92Nov22220138@physics.berkeley.edu> johnson@physics.berkeley.edu (Steve Johnson) writes:

> There is also a rumor that the Paris Opera has a complete Norma on
> film, and is negotiating it's release with EMI!  

I certainly hope that's true!  It's such a shame that we don't have a
complete film of even one of her operatic roles---and if we could have
only one, Norma would be the one I'd want the most.

> This, of course, is
> in addition to the 87+ complete operas, 28+ biographies, and many film
> clips already known to exist.

Not to mention at least one play, and numerous scholarly studies.
A newsgroup will certainly not be wasted.
--
Matthew Austern                   Just keep yelling until you attract a
(510) 644-2618                    crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a
austern@lbl.bitnet                faction, an army!  If you don't have any
matt@physics.berkeley.edu         solutions, become a part of the problem!
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:40:23 GMT

In article <Bxw4tv.C08@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes:

>twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>
>>Mike's point is that this is a fatalist and self-defeating attitude.
>
>In general, you're right.  But in this case, where they're thinking
>of splitting alt.fan.rush-limbaugh into subgroups, I think there's
>justification to my point that they leave the *.politics discussion in
>alt.fan.rush-limbaugh but go ahead with the creation of the others.

I think you're right.  Given the likelihood that alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
is going to be around despite any rmgroups to the contrary, it seems
to make sense not to bother trying to remove it if the alternative
would simply be alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.politics.  Sorry for not picking
up on this sooner.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.saturday.night.live
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:02:31 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov18.074255.23198@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) writes:
> In article <Bxw7M6.LtA@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>In article <axolotl.722047680@syzygy> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
>>
>>>twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>>
>>> >No, but there might be some demand for alt.tv.snl.  Or even
>>> >alt.tv.sat-night-live, if abbreviations are really anathema to you.
>>>
>>>Any reason why this should be in alt.* and not us.*?
>>
>>No, indeed.  That's a good point.  The only reason I can think of is
>>if SNL has a large following outside of the U.S., which seems to me
>>possible but unlikely.
> 
> I agree.  us.tv.snl sounds good.

Take a look at rec.arts.tv.uk if you think that SNL is only seen in the
US. MTV Europe has been running it for years and since Wayne's World
even the BBC have jumped on the bandwagon.

-- 
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Dundee Institute of Technology	   Internet: Alan@DCT.AC.UK
Tel: (0382) 308810                 Int: +44 382 308810
              -- There is only one true conspiracy --
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:15:47 GMT

In article <BxvtBB.I68@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes:

>mike@raven.alaska.edu (Mike Kienenberger) writes:
>
>>This attitude really irks me.  Groups *are* rmgroup'able in alt.  
>
>And they get newgrouped the next day.  Groups that move never die --
>people still read alt.mud.  It doesn't matter if *you* honor rmgroups;
>you're only one site and it doesn't stop traffic from being split.

Mike's point is that this is a fatalist and self-defeating attitude.
As long as the attitude toward rmgroups is "why bother?" it's sure as
hell going to stay that way.

I will continue to honor rmgroups if the group removal is justified,
and I will continue to send rmgroup messages if a proposed group
removal or rename is well-received.  It's quite clear that the only
reason people like Becker have any kind of "power" around here is
because we, as system managers, have quietly given it to him by
default.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks)
Subject: Re: Time to Decide on the Name (was Newsgroup For Personality Typing Systems)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:59:25 GMT

=alt.personality.types
 
Although, if you are going to expand it to IQ testing as well as
personality testing, maybe alt.psychological.tests or
alt.psychological.typing might be more appropriate.

Might also be a good idea to develop a short charter stating what
the purpose of the group is, and post it rather frequently in the
beginning.

Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
From: dalton@nevada.edu (William Turlough Cat)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Organization: NCC 1701-F USS Enterprise
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:12:11 GMT

In article <92321.145544IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>Monty Pythonquoters? YOU DARE CALL US SIMPLE QUOTERS????? We of the Spam are n
>ot mere quoters of the words of Monty Python! We are -true- worshippers of the
>only -true- edible savior! The ultimate biodegradable omnimpotent force for
>Slack, Taunt, and Grey Trenchcoats! A few points about spam:
>
>Spam, you can buy it, fry it, sling it, and Yes, even EAT it if you must.
you can also `use` it.
serves, ...
>Spam, the only savior with a list of ingredients! `
Unmached `.
>Spam, the one YOU can find in ANY grocery store, in ANY state and MANY nations!
>Spam, TELLS you for CERTAIN when it goes bad!
>Spam, something you can feed to your neighbors dog to make him or her smell bad
>
>We do NOT quote directly from Monty Python, if we wishes to do this we would PO
>ST on a Python netnews group.
>
>What we desire is a place to sling our holy Spam in A Place All It's Own(tm)
>Dammit, I Spam therefore I AM..
I think, therefore I'm spam!
>
>Datsun Wanderer // Deacon, Security Technician, Church Of Spam // io20902
>wanderer%ailanth.UUCP@wang.com
>
>- - - If Sh*t doesn't happen, SPAM will. - - -
SPAM happens here all the time.

William Turlough Cat aka beiad
From: newsmgr@vax1.utulsa.edu (Beelzebub)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:33:01 CST
Organization: The University of Tulsa

What's the deal with alt.fan.rush-limbaugh?  I keep seeing
newgroup/rmgroup wars going on and I'm tired of it.  It is history? or
is it still there?  Thanks for any info......
-- 
! Ted H. Holland			*  "Man's mind once stretched by a new
! The University of Tulsa               *   idea never regains its original   
! Computing and Information Resources   *   dimension."                       
! newsmgr@vax1.utulsa.edu               *   --Oliver Wendell Holmes     
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: shapiro@cfsctc.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro)
Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Date: 16 NOV 92 13:03:42 EST


In article <1992Nov14.161601.7874@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>,
kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes...

>alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.politics - (Unmoderated) 
>alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.transcripts - (Moderated) 
>alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show - (Unmoderated) 

I am opposed. In fact, I would like to see a SINGLE r-l newsgroup. 

The argument I have is that when you split up related topics into separate
groups, people wind up expanding their cross-posting and so we wind up with
even more redundancy to wade through. 

For example, when John posts the transcript, there are quite a few responses to
them. So, someone responding to his post would probably cross post it into one
other (if not all) newsgroups. This will 'snowball' and I perceive that all
that this would do is create a lot of redundancy.

Also, Rush's TV shows have a lot of overlap to his radio shows, so again, there
would be a bunch of cross-posting.

I like the idea, and if it were a perfect net, it would be great. However, I do
believe that all you would be doing is opening things up for mega-redundancy.

Regards,
Steve.

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jengagne@wam.umd.edu (Jenny Lynne Gagne)
Subject: Re: Proposal : alt.tv.liquid-tv (Liquid Television)
Summary: Options and ideas fly around. 
Keywords: liquid, tv, mtv, new 
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:23:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.162753.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>In article <By1ryz.7tD@unix.amherst.edu>, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>> I'm not aware of how well MTV propagates outside of the U.S., but if
>> it doesn't reach many places outside of our shores, I would suggest
>> us.tv.liquid-tv, if not simply us.tv.mtv.
>
>
>I wouldn't mind an alt.tv.mtv so much, but there is an existing group
>rec.music.video that would overlap it in content.
>

Well, the problem is that like any cable network it's got individual shows...
My original intention was a Liquid TV only one, because there'd be less
clutter.  However, an alt.tv.mtv sub is a very good idea also, and I might
propose it later after my current proposal gets accepted/rejected...

Someone suggested a mailing list earlier, but the problem is that I don't
know enough about the show to develop suitable information for a mailing
list.  I watch it religiously, but as any fanboy knows you need more than
that... I was planning if the base was accepted to develop the FAQ AFTER
response trickles in, so we get input and info from lots of people about
the various sketches, bits, and more importantly SERIESes on the show
which need explication or addresses for fan corrospondence.

And heck, maybe MTV Networks will see it and take our suggestions.

NAAAH.  :-)

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 07:25:50 EST
From: <IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
 <1992Nov21.202059.20666@becker.GTS.ORG>

Have you looked at even one of the other posts on this subject?  I thought that
alt.spam.tin had been ruled out eons ago.  What we want is a forum for the
Church of Spam, and Spam sects of others.  Ok?
----------------------- io20650@maine.maine.edu ---------------------
*** Daerr - High Spreader of Spam, Church of Spam (Gavin Edition) ***
"I Spam, therefore I am" - Gavin      "Spam sects unite under Gavin!"
  "We have billions of members, but most of them don't know it yet"
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Create alt.tv.chips
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:56:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.210358.19871@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tmiller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Thomas Christian Miller) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.051451.24493@u.washington.edu> kruegek@stein.u.washington.edu (Kirby Krueger) writes:
>
>>Translation: I'm the only one I know that likes the show. Let's make a     
>>newsgroup so I can find others who do.
>
>Please learn to _read_ the English language before impulsively translating
>it.  "There aren't that many people" does not necessarily exclude a small
>% of people devoted to this more "alternative" show.

No, but it certainly excludes the large percentage of people who are
not interested.  What on earth are you trying to say?

>How would this make alt.tv.chips any different from any _other_ Altnet group?

Like, say, the proposed alt.psychology.personality?  A lot of people
have publicly proclaimed their interest in such a group.  I see no
more than two posts in support of alt.tv.chips, and some perfectly
good reasons against it.  Your point?

>Altnet is abundant with groups discussing things that have
>limited followerships, but nevertheless generate stimulating discussion.

So wake me when a CHiPs mailing list generates "stimulating discussion."

>Same goes for the whole of Usenet.  To many, this is what news is all about.
>Should we disallow stuff like comp.lang.logo simply because Logo is more
>of a "sparse interest" language?

Altnet isn't Usenet.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:19:23 GMT

In article <92319.154407IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>We of the Spam loving minority wish a Newsgroup of our own.  We want a place
>where Spam can be slung freshly everyday, for all to see and gawk at!.  We are
>perfectly serious.  We only want ONE measly alt group, not the many, many that
>our sla...er members suggested.  Spamists arise!  Post your support for all to
>screem at!!


sounds like a haven for monty python quoters.

icky-poo


Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.activism.d,talk.environment
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.politics.green-party
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:08:11 GMT

In article <4007@randvax.rand.org> jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly) writes:
>>In article <Jym.15Nov1992.0056@naughty-peahen> Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
>>>=+= I recommend that we create an alt.politics.green-party
>>>newsgroup.  In the U.S., the Green Party did quite well
>
>In article <Bxr7Ip.HF1@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>With this proposal, can we start a precedent of "alt.politics.usa" as
>>a hierarchy for U.S.-specific issues?  Hence, alt.politics.usa.green-
>>party?
>
>We should start that precedent for USA-specific political newsgroups, like
>the proposed alt.politics.usa.[united|uwsa].  However, the Green party is
>more international in flavor -- the California version of the Greens is
>quite self-consciously inspired by the German version, I believe.  So for
><<this>> proposal, I think *.usa.* is inappropriate.
>
>That said, I don't see the need for distinction between *.green and
>*.green-party, since the point of the Green Party is environmental
>political activism (isn't it?).

Most Green Party activism that I know of attempts to avoid explicitly
environmental labels.  The Green Party USA addresses a wide spectrum
of issues.  Environmental activism is important, but it is still one
of many important issues.  I would agree that the usa part is
inappropriate.  I would like to get input from around the world and
this would discourage that input.
>-- 
>	Jim Gillogly
>	U.S. National Debt: $4,134,337,192,551
>	Your Share: $16,164


-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Time to Decide on the Name (was Newsgroup For Personality Typing Systems)
Followup-To: alt.config
Date: 18 Nov 1992 23:14:35 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: noring@netcom.com's message of Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:30:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.013024.11747@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
   alt.psychology.personality
[...]

Anybody like psychology but think it's getting too long?  How about
abbreviating to psyc[h]?  Just an idea.  I'll probably scan it with
any name.
--
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    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.activism.d,talk.environment
From: pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.politics.green-party
Organization: Precipitating Pendulums Postal Party Poopers
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:08:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.210214@aifh.ed.ac.uk> jamesh@aifh.ed.ac.uk (James Hammerton) writes:
>Green Politics is not just about the environment, 
>
>         [ ... its also about ... ]
>
>                                         Therefore, there is a distinction
>between Green Party politics and Green Politics, the latter being wider in
>scope.
>
>My feeling, therefore, is that there should be an alt.politics.green
>newsgroup, but not a separate alt.politics.green-party, 

I see a certain contradiction here. Jim's suggestion was for a group
to cover specifically Green Party issues, or at least, that's how I
read it. You seem to support this yourself in recognizing the
difference between Green politics and Green Party politics.

-- paul

-- 
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little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider
price only are this man's lawful prey.
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Newsgroups: alt.config