From: nsj@Apple.COM (Neal Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: The Scene Sucks.. (Was somethin else)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:27:24 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Aug26.001000.25473@PacBell.COM> lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel) writes:
>In article <gate.qRu3PB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>>San Francisco, although the scene is a bit more alive on the radio, is beginning
>>to really become desensitized in the cyberdustrial / techno field. Sure there
>>are the 30 minute COMMERCIAL mixes to please the little people, and some
>>college stations have a few shows, but when I first moved up here, the clubs
>>and radio stations were thriving on the stuff... now, for some fucking reason,
>>the scene is not really dying, but is not really taken seriously anymore.
>
>Was it just me, or was the crowd at the Kennel Club FLA show a bit
>on the lethargic side?  The place wasn't at all crowded, and I would
>say that no more than 30 of us seemed to be really into it.  I don't
>know, maybe I've been going to too many raves, but I remember the scene
>being more energized a couple of years ago.  I even caught myself
>thinking "Yeah, Leeb is just as intense as he was three years ago, but
>so what?"
>




After seeing FLA at the Edge in Shallow Alto last year I was
really excited about this show. I am still bummed out about
how depressed I was about the Kennel Klub show... Yes, the
crowd was really lame. More people turned up to see MC 900 Foot
Jesus awhile back (a far better show too in my opinion). Also,
the whole environment finally got to me... The level of 
conformity was so high - black leather, Leeb haircuts, aggro
exteriors, I couldn't believe it. I mean, one of Mr. Leeb's
messages ("mozzerella - fists in the air!") seems to be against
mindless conformity, but there it was... Come on people, where
is your reality? Contagion at least had this sort of youthful
exhuburence that was o.k. though they reeked of Nitzer Ebb. Can
you say "original", children? Plus we were spared the idiocy of
Voice of Destruction - even the name is lame - that graced the
hallowed halls of the Edge the next night.

Then Billy hit the stage... The video was pretty neat, but after
awhile it got to be pretty repetitious and boring. Come on
folks, fast cuts were in the late 60's... Also, samples of
ministers, military stuff, science fiction, and horror is such a
fucking cliche. Doesn't anyone have any NEW ideas?

They definitely cranked the volume for FLA. But Mr. Leeb seemed
to be just going through the motions - fist thrust, fist thrust,
fist thrust - and all the songs sounded the same. Except for the
little bit of Delerium between songs (far more interesting). It
was just a run on mess. I confess, after four songs, I left. Quite
depressed, because I thought there was something to all this 
industrial stuff. This music was important to me. But, quite
frankly, I am beginning to think that as a genre it is becoming
very stale, very cliche, and, heaven forbid, destined to be
the pop music of the 90's. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted...




>BTW, I enjoyed your videos that were played before the show.  No
>cum shots though.

Personally, I thought that this video was stupid, really stupid,
and pointless. Come on guys, eighth grade is over. It's time
to stop snickering over sex. I don't know what the INTENT of this
video was but it certainly contributed to the usual male posturing
and exploitation of women. Typical, typical... So is industrial
music as locked into its gonads as metal?

Hoping that I don't sound like Matty Sharpe since these are
my real feelings...


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