From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Football Failures at Bowie Force end of Season
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:43:25 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX

In article <1992Nov16.184628.42478@watson.ibm.com>, johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti/100000) writes:
> David L. Cathey (davidc@montagar.com) wrote:
> : 	You're right, he is coming around!  He wants to stop giving freeloaders 
> : free football programs!
> 
> OK, how about if we also stop giving freeloaders free math and science programs?

	But they are not freeloading, since they are making an effort to
pass all classes enrolled.  The school is upholding its end of the "contract"
by providing classes to those the doing work in them.  You defend the concept
of certain students (namely Football players) should have exceptions to
this (Elitist).

	So, you have a Football Player without a High School Diploma (he
didn't pass required curriculum that *everyone* else is required to fulfill).
What does he do now?  Go to the Pro's?  Not likely.  High School football isn't
competitive enough to get you in the door.  You need to be proven under more
challenging conditions: College Football.  Too bad you won't make the
entrance requirements.

> : 	If football players are as stupid as you think John, soon there
> : will be no high-school or college football.
> 
> *I* think they're stupid?  Who's the one saying that they don't know enough to
> decide what they want to do for a living?

	Well, you appearently don't think that the are intelligent enough to
do anything besides play football.  It they can't get a High School diploma,
why should I think they (still minors, remember) can make intelligent choices
about the rest of their lives?

> : The Pro teams will be forced to
> : start "Football Schools" themselves to get new players for the rookie ranks.
> : Kind of like military academies.  Those wanting to pursue that line can do so
> : without the expense.
> 
> Not a bad idea.  It would also apply to engineering companies starting up
> engineering schools and newspapers starting up journalism schools, etc. etc.

	Actually, this is already being done.  It is something called
"Internships" or sometimes "Apprenticeships".  Your own company has its
own programs for this (Suprise!).

> : 	We're with you John...  You just don't want to actually want anyone
> : to *DO* anything to change the system, just bitch about it.
> 
> Not when the cure is worse than the disease.  No.

	Sometimes it is.  But I forget, you have stated that people do want
to only do what it takes to get by.  You can't always have things easy...

> : 	Let us assume that John is 100% correct here.  This is an actual
> : confession that John probably does only just what it takes to get by and stay
> : employed at IBM (for now, watch out John, layoffs are here...).
> 
> I *chose* to work at IBM.  I'm not here just so I can keep playing football.
> Do you see the difference?

	No, you're there so you can keep on playing Flight Simulator on
your PS/2.  At least as much as you can get away with.  The only difference
is the games of choice.

> John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
>         My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
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