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From: a750288@pan.mc.ti.com (John E. Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Patriots News 9/2
Summary: Roster, Cuts
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:37:52 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group

The Patriots cut the following players Monday:

Marvin Allen RB         Kelvin Means WR
Rob McGovern LB         Eric Bergeron S
Scott Bowles OL         Reggie Clark LB
Ben Jefferson OT        Troy Wilkes LB
Steve Gordeon C         David Dixon NT
Wayne Hawkins WR        Tim Edwards DE
Alex Johnson WR         Al Golden TE


The Pats roster looks like this:

P--Shawn mcCarthy
K--Charlie Baumann
QB--Hugh Millen
    Scott Zolak
    Tom Hodson
RB--Leonard Russell          John Stephens
    Jon Vaughn               Sam Gash
    Kevin Turner
WR--Irving Fryar             Michael Timpson
    Greg McMurtry            Scott Lockwood
OL--Gene Chilton             Bruce Armstrong
    Gregg Rakoczy            Pat Harlow
    Larry Williams           Eugene Chung
    Calvin Stephens          Reggie Redding
TE--Marv Cook                
    Ben Coates
DL--Tim Goad                 Fred Smerlas
    Brent Williams           Ray Agnew
    Chris Gannon             Marlon Hobby
LB--David Howard             Chris Singleton
    Andre Tippett            Eugene Lockhart
    Johnny Rembert           Vincent Brown
    Richard Tardits          Dwayne Sabb
    Todd Collins
DB--Maurice Hurst            Randy Robbins
    Tim  Gordon              Jerome Henderson
    David Pool               Rod Smith
    Dion Lambert             Darren Anderson

WR is a hurting spot.  Lockwood is actually a rookie RB listed as a WR.  The
Pats will be looking for experienced receivers.  Rumor has it that the Pats
have offered veterans John Stephens and Eugene Lockhart for trades.
Chris Gannon and Dwayne Sabb may join Hart Lee Dykes on the injured reserve
list.
Backup QB looks to be Zolak; the backup job will be announced today (Wed).
Tippet, Cook, and Fryar were elected team captains.
Pat Harlow wants to start playing in the late opener Sept 13 at LA Rams.  
The doctors and trainers are predicting 9/20 or 27, however.

Take Care,
 
John 



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From: rsk@circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:25:35 GMT
Reply-To: rsk@circ.upenn.edu
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

Ronald D Rodabaugh (rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>   Concerning realignment in the NFL, I have just one question: WHY?
>  These teams play ONCE A WEEK, for 16 games. Does it really matter that 
> Phoenix has to go east four times a year every year? Is it really going to be 
>  that much cheaper for the NFL to realign geographically? NO.

The situation is not as simple as this.  Consider that Phoenix must go east four
times a year to play its divisional opponents at their home field; each of the
four divisional opponents must go west to play Phoenix at their home field.
(This is, of course, in addition to the travel required by out-of-division games;
however, I doubt that a realignment would affect that aspect of the scheduling
substantially.)   Changing this does not make it "cheaper for the NFL"; it makes
it cheaper for the owners of the teams affected, and some of them have
expressed an interest in voting with their wallet, so to speak.
From: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins vs Saints Observations
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:01:20 GMT
Reply-To: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp
News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1582@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:

| Last night the Dolphins played their last exhibition game against New
| Orleans and lost 17-3.  It was a pretty dull game for the most part
| and the Dolphins looked as if they have some serious work to do to be
| ready to play in the regular season.
| 

That is why we Dolfans should be glad that the home opener against New England
next Sunday has been postponed due to the difficult times down here in South
Florida.  The New England Patriots (whose GM is Sam Jankovich former Miami AD)
and the NFL agreed to have the game postponed to October 18, the day in which
the AFC East has its bye week.

An extra week of healing is the way I look at it for the Fins who need it
somewhat.  But then again, like Shula says, you really don't know if you
might need that bye midway through the season.  I prefer the week now so
the Dolphins can get off to a good start.

Marco (Island) Coleman...the next LT!

Go Fins!

Joe Sosa
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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Sackers
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:04:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.040955.3779@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar) writes:
>>Article 24515 of rec.sport.football.pro:
>>From: greenfie@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Steve Greenfield)
>>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>>Subject: Sackers
>
>>Top 10 Active Quartback Sackers In The NFL (since 1982)
>
>>1.  Lawrence Taylor     N.Y. Giants        121-1/2
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Is LT the all time Sack leader????????
>
Yes,
What planet were you on the last 10 years ? 8{D.

			RIC. IRVIN
			AT&T BELL LABORATORIES.

"TOUCHDOWN !!!! ... just kidding Dad! " my son at 18 months.

"In football, good hitting usually beats good pitching."

"... Lawrence Taylor was all over him... like syrup on pancakes." John Madden.

"...This Game is being broadcast in stereo..." Pat Summerall.
"...What does spit sound like in stereo? "	John Madden.

			PEACE.
From: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids, MI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: signings, holdouts
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:13:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: ghidrah.central.sun.com

What about rb Johnson(cardinals) I think he is still holding out/not signed?

nate
From: marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Tickets for games in New York
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:01:58 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

I'm planing on being in New York sometime late November/December time
and I was hoping to pick up an NFL game whilst there.

Is it easy to pick up tickets on the day? Do i have to get them in
advance (a slight problem as i live in the UK and have no fixed dates
yet) ?

Do the Giants and Jets sell out for there games??

And how much are tickets?

Thanks for any information you can provide.

Cheers
Marc

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From: dlingle@andy.bgsu.edu (don lingle)
Subject: steelers
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:40:46 GMT

Keywords: 


I am a steelers fan and was wondering a couple of things.

1) is there a newgroup for info on the steelers?

2) Also Who all did the steelers cut?

Thanks

Don
From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikings CRUSH Redskins
Date: 30 Aug 92 06:22:05 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee


	Well, I actually got to watch the last Vikings here in Milw,
	and I had to say I was very impressed. Minnesota moved the
	ball pretty well, and the defnese looked very good against
	Rypien, who had a very truely forgetable night. 3 INT's. 
	Minesota also did not give up a TD all preseason. Tonight,
	the first string Def, did well, and in the second half
	the second string def took out the first string starters
	of the redskins. Again, Rypien had a very bad game, but I am
	still optimistic looking toward next week and Green Bay.
	
	Final score

	Minnesota 30
	Washingon  0

							Mark Gresbach
							GO VIKINGS
From: scotti@madworld.Eng.Sun.COM (Scott A. Vu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: trade rumors
Summary: rison for Croel ??
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:39:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: madworld

In article <168589703.MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com>, MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster) writes:
> In article <4103.370.uupcb@brent.uucp>
> al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) writes:
>  
> >It has been reported that the Falcons offered Andre Rison to the
> >Chargers for Junior Seau. Bobby Beathard(the San Diego GM) just laughed.
> >
> >Dominating linebackers are hard to come by, and Bobby Beathard is no
> >idiot, or he would not have had the success he did at Washington.
> >
> >Let's please not have anymore ridiculous trades suggested here like
> >Noonan(a history of injuries) + Casillas(not much of a pass rush) for
> >Seau.
> >
> >                                         Al
> >---
> > . DeLuxe. 1.21 #11688 . al.sorhaindo@execnet.com
> >
> Similar rumors are going around in Denver....that Rison was offered to
> the Broncos for Mike Croel or Simon Fletcher plus a number one draft
> pick.  I thought the Falcons' biggest need was in the defensive
> secondary.  Why would they not try to get some help there if they
> really want to deal Rison?
>  
> (Not that the Broncos couldn't use Rison, of course)
>  
> Jim McMaster


Is this rumor true? The falcons got some nerves.
Give me a break.. Rison for Croel or Fletcher???
plus a 1st rounder??

Everyone knows that Defense won game. The Broncos
LB corps is one of the league best.. No way they
break up (Croel,Mecklenburg,Brooks,Fletcher).


My 2 cents.
scvu-
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Steeler scoring, performance vs. Bears
Organization: Clark University
Date: 25 AUG 92 18:06:39 GMT

The TNT announcers did say that the Steelers had only scored 6 points
until the Bears game. I don't know if they were purposely disregarding
all the scoring Pitt. did late in the Eagles game. I mean, sure, they
were up against 2nd/3rd string defense, and the offense still hadn't
begun to gell, but points are points.

The WR core looked pretty good. I'll be glad when Lipps returns, but the
Steelers' recieving talent (incl. TEs and backfield) is spread out nicely,
so they don't need huge talent at WR.

As far as defense, I'm watching the injuries/holdouts in the secondary
very closely. The DLs and DBs still have some rough edges, but they
generally played better as the game progressed. They should be good
enough against the run this year. I was very impressed by OLBs Williams
and (of course) Lloyd. If they stay healthy we can finally get some
pressure on opposing QBs!!

Bart
From: i001804@disc.dla.mil (mary green)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: If Walker should fail.
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:10:54 GMT
Organization: Defense Industrial Supply Center, Philadelphia, Pa


Just want to put my two cents in about Herschel.  I've read what some of
Vikings fans have said about Walker and all I can say is if Walker doesn't
gain ground here in Philly it won't be completly his fault.  

After watching a number of plays last night where Walker was handed the ball
he got to take one step and then Wham!!!  The offensive line here is going
to have to do a better job, the coaching staff has to come up with offensive
plays, and the front office has to get Keith Jackson in.

I know that the coaches don't want to show to much in preseason as far as
plays go so there is hope that the play calling will improve.  Randall  will
be doing the quarterbacking which makes opposing defenses play diffrently,
if Keith Jackson signs Keith Byras can be moved from tight end to the back 
field where he is a great blocker (along with his other talents) and Walker
will thrive back there.  If Jackson doesn't sign or if something happens to
Cunningham and McMahon than Walker is in for a looooong season and won't look
any better than he did in Minnesota.  Hopefully the line will get better as
they play together and hopefully Antone Davis's attention span won't 
fluctuate from play to play.

So to all the Vikings fans who read the stats after the game and see lousy
rushing yardage from Walker it isn't just his fault.

B. Snyder
Phila, Pa
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From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:51:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug31.214032.18652@asuvax.eas.asu.edu> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
>     Ha ha.  Funny, but Phoenix already plays in the
>toughest division in football (NFC East), and like
>I said, we'd just as soon stay there as move to NFC
>West.  Your proposal would actually make things
>a lot easier competition-wise, except for Dallas.

I would think that this proposal would make you happier than a pig in slop. Fi-
nally, the Cardinals wouldn't have to rack up the frequent flier miles on top
of getting throttled. :-)

>
>     No, we're not chicken.  We just don't care to
>spend two thirds of the season playing Texas and
>Missouri.  How distasteful.  (I can come right out
>and say that since you're on to me now.)

Well, IMHO Arizona is not the end of the world, but you can see it from there.

And BTW, Phoenix CARDINALS?!?  If St. Louis gets an expansion franchise, they
should get the nickname back and let the fine denizens of Hell (aka Phoenix)
pick a new name. The Suns? Nope, already taken.  How about the Gila Monsters?
Or the Whiny-ASU-Students-Who-Against-All-Odds-Are-On-USENET-But-Don't-Know-
A-Really-Advantageous-Move-When-They-See-It.  Nope, too long.

>     While I don't favor mixing up the NFC and AFC, at least

Why not, pray tell?

>this proposal would be acceptable.  I'd feel sorry for Seattle,
>but hey, you play in a stupid dome on artificial turf and you
>deserve whatever fate you get.

I don't know, the Oilers, Saints, and Lions manage quite well, thanx.

OK, so what would YOU propose?  And don't put the Oilers in the same division
as Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, ye who complain about being in the
same division as teams conceivably in the same part of the country.  Besides,
it's not much fun throttling those guys all the time anyway.  "New conquests"
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE: UPDATE #2
Originator: delarocq@c00091-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Satellite
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:17:27 GMT




    The Northeast Division is now filled.

    The 3 spots for the NW and SE divisions are still open.

    delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: andy@sunbird.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer notes
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:05:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunbird.central.sun.com
Keywords: Joe Sims, Falcons

In article <1992Sep4.010544.22671@cis.ohio-state.edu> martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
>>>OG Joe Sims - Has anyone heard of him?
>
>According to the '92 Sporting News Pro Football Register, Sims is
>6'3" 294 pounds and 23 years old.  The Falcons picked him in the
>11th round in '91 (out of Nebraska), waived him just before the
>season started, placed him on their practice squad, and activated
>him in November.  He ended up playing in 6 games.  Also, TSN has
>him listed as an OT, not OG.

He played DT in college & was drafted as a defender.  He moved to 
OL to make the team.  When Bill Fralic got hurt last year,  Sims 
started (Redskins was one game, ouch).  Since he had played on the 
D,  he should be quick enough to play as a guard.




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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: games changing in history, question??
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:50:09 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.football.pro, coombes@tiger.tcom.stc.co.uk (Philip Coombes) 
writes:

 >What with hurricane Andrew visiting upon the Fins, and causing
 >the Patriots game to be rescheduled, I was wondering when this had
 >happened before.... I can only think of various Fog, Flood, Snow Bowls
 >etc where a venue change may have not been a bad idea.

Don't forget the Great Freeze at Green Bay during the Championship Game 
between Green Bay and Dallas Cowboys in 1967, I believe.  The playing
field was frozen solid when the low temperature (the temperature went 
20 degrees below zero) was simply too much for the underground heating
system installed below the playing field.


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:00:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

You people have got to stop hyping your own favorite team's division 
by trashing the accomplishments of teams in other divisions.  This is 
not going to get you anywhere.
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Saturday, 29 Aug 1992 00:31:30 EDT
From: William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Floyd Turner???

I've been following the Saints box scores for the past two games, but
haven't seen Turner's name in the scores. I watched a little of the Miami
game,  and didn't see him play.  Is he hurt,  or are they just saving him
for the regular season?  Please e-mail replies to above address
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From: asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar)
Subject: Mat Millen
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:11:45 GMT

	>Washington Redskins News of September 2, 1992

	 >Changes in Redskins' Roster Since Super Bowl XXVI

OUT:
---
>LB Matt Millen:  

Is he the player picked up from the 49ers last year.  Was rated to be
a good player and played well for the niners.  I may be mistaken, but it 
used to be said that he was the heart of the Niners team, always encouraging 
players, playing well & leading by example and always peping up everyone.  
Then where did he go wrong for the Redskins.

(Just an inquiry.  Hope I dont have to again explain to
someone on which planet I was for the last 10 years.)


-Ashish
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From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas *unofficial* roster
Date: 1 Sep 1992 16:38:56 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

Oops, silly me....

I included Mike Irvin's name on the list of protected
players....almost as if I knew something.  Well, let
me assure all of you, I don't know anything about him
signing a contract by Wednesday...

I guess that means that one of the people that I had
listed as cut actually wasn't.  Hmmm, I wonder who
made the team... or maybe they didn't get a roster
exemption for Haley (that is VERY possible).  So, 
since I don't know any better or have any inside
info, I think I will leave my roster just as it is...

*later*

ice
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: QB Carreer Endings
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  4 SEP 92 09:08:57    

In article <1992Sep3.163455.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, correa@vax.sonoma.edu writes...

>The point I was trying to make was that all great dynasty's come to 
>an end. The niners have a chance to end the Joe Montana Era , but still 
>continue to win. Unlike the Steelers, Raiders and Packers. If they dont' convince
>Joe to retire they might lose that chance.

The Packers dynasty ended when Lombardi left.  Starr didn't retire 
until around 1971.  Starr's contribution for the years after Lombardi 
left was entirely positive.  Starr was a backup and he played well at 
times.  He didn't cause dissention on the team and the starting QB's 
status was not a question - well, not anymore than it normally is.  
After all, a starting QB can always lose his job to whoever is #2 if 
he can't cut it.  

I believe the starting QB for the Packers when Starr retired was Scott 
Hunter.  Starr was well know for being sort of a mentor to Hunter 
during his last year on the team.  Starr went on to become QB coach 
for the Packers the year after he retired.  It was partially on the 
strength of his performance as QB coach that he got the job as head 
coach.  About the only thing that wasn't wrong with the Packers in '73 
when Bart was the QB coach was the QB.

Whether Montana can fill a similar role with the 49ers is unknown to 
me.  Maybe Young and Bono don't need his tutelage.  But I think its 
wrong to assume that if Montana comes back even as a backup it has to 
be a negative thing.

JGH
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