HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: That Stupid Subject line
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:15:17 GMT
Organization: I said WHAT!?!

In article <=7wn-h.richh@netcom.com> richh@netcom.com (richh) writes:
>tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>
>>Aw but people like Carasso and his friend RICHH give Netcom character, so that
>>the quiet people like me don't have to work so hard! :)
>
>puhlease, Tyger.
>Carasso and I "friends"??
>Hardly.
>We just happen to all have accounts at you know where.
>And spend way too much time on the net.

That's true...you at least are original and interesting to read...

>RICHH

   Tyger

-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break 
 
                       
        
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: u8653100@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (Dennis Lu)
Subject: Proposal: alt.architecture
Reply-To: u8653100@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, University of New South Wales
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:43:37 GMT

This is a proposal for the creation of a new alternative newsgroup on 
archictecture.  We are from the school of architecture, unversity of New South 
Wales, and we would like to create an alt group on the subject of architecture.
There are groups on almost every aspect of life, but not architecture. We feel 
that there is a need for such a group, because people should have more
say on the subject. Architecture is everywhere.

PROPOSAL: This group would exist to provide a forum for people with an
interest in the area of architecture.  Discussion topics may include
architectural history, building conservation, philosophy, reviews of new building, 
design of new architecture, CAD, architectural education, construction, and 
anything that is related to architecture. 

This newsgroup is not only for the architecture strudent or architect, 
but also including artist, student of art and design, and anyone that 
has interest in the area of architecture. 

PROPOSED CHARTER: alt.architecture - a group for discussion on all
matters related to architecture.

Dennis Lu
School of Architecture,
University of New South Wales,
Sydney, Australia.
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Spellings
From: Jsr@Xyzzy.equinox.gen.nz (J S Russell)
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:18:50 +1200
Organization: AMS Ltd
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
: 
:  Obviously not as he has 4 "i's" in this sentance. Vampyre is just a nifty
: spelling, possibly from early english (whatever the term might be); sort
: of like "colour" instead of "color"

You got some problem with this?

I propose alt.american.spellings
       or alt.everyone.else.spells.it.funny
       or alt.and.they.drive.on.the.wrong.side.of.the.road.too

JSR
--

          +--------------------------+--------------------------+
          | jsr@xyzzy.equinox.gen.nz |     Have a nice TMA.     |
          +--------------------------+--------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.config,news.admin
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Warning: Imminent death of the net predicted
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 02:46:57 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>In various messages, 
>akt@dc.Clinton-Gore.org (Amit Thakur) writes:
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats.clinton moderated
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats.d
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats moderated
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats.house moderated
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats moderated

>I believe this to be a very bad[tm] thing. While discussions of politics
>are a norm on USENET, here we have an organized campaign which will be
>utilizing the resources of USENET - both funded by the federal government
>and private organizations/companies - to propagate announcements and
>other campaign information.


So?  The net long ago stopped being a nice little academic country
club for the select few.  The answer to the question "what is appropriate
for the net" is "whatever a few people agree to."   Particularly in alt.

Even though the only thing I could imagine being any worse than
another Bush administration would be  a Clinton one, I see only
one thing wrong with this.  Considering that it is Clinton and
Gore, shouldn't the groups be formed  under alt.sex.democrats.....?  
After all, Clinton's fond of screwin' and if elected, he'd give us 
ALL a screwin'. 

John
-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC               |Interested in high performance mobility?  
Performance Engineering Magazine (TM) |
Marietta, Ga                         |Interested in high tech and computers? 
jgd@dixie.com                        |Write me about PE Magazine
Need Usenet public Access in Atlanta?  Write Me for info on Dixie.com.
Xref: sparky alt.config:5542 alt.politics.clinton:4295
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Creating alt.politics.democrats groups
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:45:24 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Now that these groups have been created, why isn't anything in any of them
except alt.politics.democrats.d?  Why create groups if you aren't going to
use them?

Bill Marcum  "I hate it when I can't gird my loins with funny animals!"
                     --Calvin(Bill Watterson)
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 14:35:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Sep5.030623.18637@wolves.uucp> news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den) writes:
>[Note: followup to alt.config only please.]
>
>There have been about 12 or thirteen requests in the past few months for
>a group to discuss herbalism -- the use of vegetable material for
>healing purposes.
>

I strongly object to the formation of alt.herbalism. My concern is that
it will become a haven for medical quackery. Participants will be
asserting misinformation about the merits of herbal medicine with no
data to support their claims. Innocent bystanders will start believing
it, and even acting upon it. Furthermore, it is not the kind of forum
where medical doctors and other experts are likely to participate.
Therefore, any outrageous health claims for herbal medicine are likely
to go unchallenged.

The fact that you have had a dozen requests for this newsgroup is a symptom
of the ignorance and misinformation propagated by health food stores,
manufacturers of juicers, and the like. Furthermore, it is illegal for a
manufacturer of any herbal product to make medical claims for their products,
and this is severely enforced by the F.D.A. 

Some people will blow their life savings in search of medical cures by
way of quack treatments. This should be discouraged, not encouraged.
From: camurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Cindy)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: That Bitch
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:12:02 GMT
Organization: UB

mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:

>ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Martin Ewing) writes:


>I AGREE: BUT LETS HAVE HER FULL NAME FOLLOWED BY THE WORD
>BITCH!

>I got my news groups tho..and guess what? I AM FLATTERED! My
>buddie and I haven't had a good laugh in such a long time. He does't
>even use the computer that much and thinks that shes USENET IDIOT.

>But that is what you get from a 7th generation inbred whore.


i don't care how much you detest this woman or who the hell you
think you are, but this misogynist shit is beyond inappropriate:
it's violent against all women.  i don't appreciate all the
gratuitous wishes for physical violence, slinging around the
terms 'bitch' and 'whore' (you just LOOOOVE an excuse to use those
don't you?) - i've seen a few of this woman's posts and never
mind that i wasn't any too impressed, i'm still MUCH more 
revolted by this misogynist free-for-all.  so CAN this shit
or keep it over in alt.flames or alt.somebody-or-other.weenie
or whatever the crossposts were i deleted.  if you have that
much of a problem with her, using her as an excuse to use
misogynist terms seems very odd, considering she's no gloria
steinem herself.  

what a garbage newsgroup.  i thought this was supposed to be
for serious discussion of the creation of newsgroups.  i thought
i might even see some intelligent discussion of alt.vampyres
and how i can read it at my uni, now it's been created on some
bbs.  i guess this is another dead end where all the ranting
assholes go, same as anywhere else on the net.

i vote EMPHATICALLY AGAINST the creation of such a narrow,
violent, stupid-waste-of-energy newsgroup, which i assume
was meant to be a joke anyway (oh, ha ha)

and back to another subject, alt.flame.menses or whatnot,
it's this sick society that has tried to stuff women (and
everyone) into this narrow little, mind-and-body-destroying
framework that makes times of more emotionality societally
disapproved and labeled "pathological."  how about
alt.bitch.goddesses, counteract some of this obvious testosterone
poisoning....

retiring to my menstrual hut to commune with the spirits,

C. Murphy

p.s.  gratuitous flames and harassing mail can go to hell
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: u8653100@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (Dennis Lu)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Reply-To: u8653100@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, University of New South Wales
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:01:46 GMT

In alt.config, sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson) writes:

>	Why post to alt.postmodern? Anyone interested in architecture could
>	have no interest in postmodernism.

I don't see why not! Postmodernism is also a movement in architecture.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: alt.politics.*
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:16:11 GMT

So what's the deal with these?  I don't recall seeing any discussion
of them in alt.config.  If there is any evidence that they are not
simply the result of Jyrki's being bored (or petulant over the failed
talk.politics.* smorgasbord), I'll keep them, but I'm strongly tempted
now either to nuke them or alias them to talk.politics.misc.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.music.marillion
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:26:05 GMT

In article <Pue5qB4w164w@jaflrn.UUCP> Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
> 
> alt.music.marillion:
> 
> Purpose: For discussion of the group Marillion, their music, and assorted
> related bands, such as Fish, How We Live, and The Europeans

Oh, no.  According to the alt.police, you're not allowed to talk about
related topics.  You better remove those provisions from your charter.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: alt.comics.lnh (bad name!)
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:03:04 GMT

v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce) writes:
: Just throwing my support into the ring for alt.comics.lnh.  Also, a question:
: will it be a group strictly for the LNH storyline?  Or more like an alt.comics.
: creative group? Also, will it be moderated (so we don't get 15,000 alternate
: storylines branching off every day)?

Oh, it probably won't be that bad as an unmoderated group.  Look at alt.pub.
dragons-inn.  Totally unmoderated, but what was probably complete chaos the
first few days has, over the summer, become at least quasi-organized.  If you
set up a framework, the most trouble you'll probably get is people asking what
the group is about...and disruptors can always be killfiled and ignored.

Hmmm...  Now if we get alt.comics.lnh, or whatever, then we'll essentially have
three creative newsgroups---alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo, alt.pub.dragons-inn, and
alt.comics.lnh, all in totally different hierarchies.  I don't suppose that we
could convince everybody to switch over to an alt.creative hierarcy or
something?  It's not like we'll have too many crossovers, I guess...or at least
we haven't yet.  (Hmmm...nah, the genres are too dissimilar.)

Two questions--

1) If the League of Net-Heroes was originally devised to save rec.arts.comics,
will it fade away once rec.arts.comics is gone?

2) Will it be "open"?  Will it only be for those already established as "Net
Heroes", or will it be something where people can introduce new characters?  Do
you have such guidelines thought out yet?

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"Just a moment before, I thought you had gone--you were lying so still..."
Current Album--Ann Mortifee:Baptism
Current Read--Robert Heinlein:The Past Through Tomorrow
From: camurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Cindy)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: proposal for Alt.Vampyres
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:50:09 GMT
Organization: UB

locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu writes:


>I for one would get a kick out of such a newsgroup. There is as a whole
>subculture associated with these legends (see alt.goth. rec.music.industrial 
>alt.satanism and alt.thrash for some examples of these people). The drawback
>is this; will anyone actually post to it? Considering the traffic in alt.goth,
>where this was originally proposed, I tend to doubt it....

>-Scott

considering the extremely HEAVY traffic on a vampyres mailing list
i was on, i think that if the existence of such a newsgroup were
properly announced a lot of people would post to it.  
i had to take myself off the vampyres mailing list due to receiving
over one hundred messages a day, many of them good long ones.
it'd be much easier for a lot of people to be able to peruse a
newsgroup at their leisure as opposed to having their mailbox
flooded with stuff and having to go to 'nomail' and miss good
discussions when they don't have time to go through all their mail.

-Cynthia Murphy, camurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (Multi-Tasking Man)
Subject: Re: alt.comics.lnh (bad name!)
Originator: jecoleb@c00505-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:05:24 GMT


mike@raven.alaska.edu (Mike Kienenberger) writes:
]I'd still recommend renaming it.
]There's absolutely no way that anyone will guess what LNH stands for.
]How about "alt.comics.lgn-net-heros?"  And the stupid arguments that
]"Once a group is created on Altnet, one must never change it!" is just
]that -- stupid!  Those who refuse to rmgroup will eventually be
]overwhelmed by the shear volume of Usenet junk groups.

Hey, I'm not opposed to a name change, if a consensus can be reached. 
However, I'm ALSO aware of the newgrouping-is-permanent idea held by a
number of sysadmins around the world.  After watching alt.*.ren-and-stimpy
bounce back and forth between alt.fan and alt.tv, I'm not much into the
idea of being in a new what's-the-RIGHT-name war.  (Then we'll get to see
Sysadmin A keep .lnh, Sysadmin B keep .lgn-net-heroes, Sysadmin C keep both,
Sysadmin D refuse both on the grounds that multiple names means they MUST be
bogus, and hordes of crossposting between the two.)

I'm listening to see what gets proposed, though, so it's not over yet.

v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce) writes:

>Just throwing my support into the ring for alt.comics.lnh.  Also, a question:
>will it be a group strictly for the LNH storyline?  Or more like an alt.comics.
>creative group? Also, will it be moderated (so we don't get 15,000 alternate
>storylines branching off every day)?

Actually, while this would seem to be pretty much an LNH-specific group, I
tend to resist moderation, for the mere reason that I'd rather have some
creative anarchy than any one moderator's view of What The Group Should Be[tm].

After all, this IS comic-book-style writing we're talking about here... the 
medium that's DESIGNED for wild plot twists and inexplicable happenings.  If
something bizarre happens that is a wild divergence, write around it; turn it
into a parallel universe or a mass hallucination caused by an evil master plan
of Dr. Killfile's or something.  The threads that get the best writing will
survive; the wild-cards thrown in from Joe Blow@biff.wannabe.com will fade out.

The alt.comics.creative idea isn't bad at all, though.  The LNH has had enough
traffic that I think it deserves a group on its own, but a forum for other
supergroups (so to speak) has definite possibilities.

(Besides, this paves the way for the mother of all crossovers.) ;)

-- 
----------jeff the wonder llama, jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu

------"I am a penis. Worship me."--lead singer of rock band Bicycle Face,
     vainly attempting to gain attention of the crowd at the Cat's Cradle 
     in Chapel Hill, while opening for Mojo Nixon & The Toad Liquors
--
It's not my fault, it wasn't up to you
Christmas Eve comes once a year and that will never do
Your image started fading, I closed my eyes to see
Tell me, do you close your eyes for me?
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:03:43 GMT
Organization: Society for the Prevention of AltNet Posts

georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:

>Fine. The president of Duke University and their Board of Directors
>will be receiving by certified mail printouts of all your postings
>in this thread.
>
>Enjoy you laugh for the next few days, while you can, because it is going
>to be short lived. I regret that you are going to have to learn one
>of life's hard lessons in this manner. Believe me. I take no pleasure
>in this. I wish you all the best.

Somewhere in the darkened caverns of Duke University:

"I have bad news, Sir."

"What is it, Underling?"

"A Nobody has sent us complaints of words from some electronic discussion."

"What? Oh no!"

"And that's not all, Sir. He sent them in CERTIFIED MAIL!"

"Call campus security. Make sure they're armed. We'll find the lout who
said those distubing words and show HIM a thing or two, by God."

"The full treatment, Sir?"

"Yes, the whole thing."

"Oh my God, NO!"

"We have no choice. When something like this happens, we MUST assume that
the person who mailed these pages is more than just another 'George' on a
network. We MUST assume that national security is at stake, and take the
necessary steps to Terminate With Prejudice."

"Yes, it's true, I guess. If we don't immediately stop all university
activity and direct our fullest energies to the eradication of these kinds
of people, the next thing you know they'll be using expressions like ...
--dare I say it?-- poo-poo."

"Or worse. Pee-pee."

"Oh Lord. I hadn't thought of the dreaded 'pee-pee' expression."

"Take care of it Underling."

"Yes, Sir! Right away!"

As we leave the hallowed halls of Duke, we hear the strains of the Theme
from Dragnet welling up...
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: alt.rachel.weenie
Keywords: weenie weenie weenie
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 10:54:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.223506.9926@ctr.columbia.edu> ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Martin Ewing) writes:
>
>
>I call for the creation of alt.rachel.weenie, because she is pissing me off.
>She butts her nose in everyone else's business and I'm sick and tired of it.
>Rachel, get a life, rent a clue, and fuck a cat!
>
Speaking of "rent a clue", there's already an alt.carasso newsgroup (several
actually).  What we really need is a sort of meta-killfile for news software,
which will automatically delete newgroups issued by selected individuals.
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.amateur-computerist
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:29:12 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
>
> 
> 
> 
> In a previous article, ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) says:
> 
> >
> >              alt.amateur-computerist Charter
> > 
> >     Alt.amateur-computerist is a conference where readers
> >and writers can discuss the articles and subjects that appear in 
> 
> Because of a helpful email response that pointed out that with the 
> - the name was too long for his machine -
> 
> we are suggesting that the name be instead
>               alt.amateur.computerist

That's too long for my machine.  I am running MSDOS.

Eight characters, plus a three character extension please.

As long as you are being considerate of other operating systems, of
course (or object code loaders, whichever the case may be).

Actually, it works out pretty well on a DOS machine, since great
expanses of net.naming.space get thrown into the same newsgroup.
comp.sys is especially much easier to maintain on DOS boxes.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
Xref: sparky alt.config:5693 rec.arts.fine:656 alt.callahans:10952 sci.engr.civil:439 sci.materials:694 alt.cyberpunk:4220 alt.postmodern:2378
From: randolph@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.fine,alt.callahans,sci.engr.civil,sci.materials,alt.cyberpunk,alt.postmodern
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Followup-To: alt.config
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:38:53
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
	<BuDv9u.3rE@nic.umass.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cognito.ebay.sun.com
In-reply-to: s0558191@titan.ucc.umass.edu's message of Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:17:53 GMT

[This is a great big cross-post, in the hope of gathering more
supporters for this proposed group.  Followups to alt.config.]

There's a proposal in alt.config for an alt.architecture (for
buildings, not computers).  Anyone who would like to see such a group
created (or not created) -- follow up please.  Here's the original
proposal; I have added a proposal for
alt.binaries.architecture.pictures, since that seems a useful adjunct.


Newsgroups: alt.config
From: u8653100@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (Dennis Lu)
Subject: Proposal: alt.architecture
Reply-To: u8653100@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, University of New South Wales
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:43:37 GMT

This is a proposal for the creation of a new alternative newsgroup on 
archictecture.  We are from the school of architecture, unversity of New South 
Wales, and we would like to create an alt group on the subject of architecture.
There are groups on almost every aspect of life, but not architecture. We feel 
that there is a need for such a group, because people should have more
say on the subject. Architecture is everywhere.

PROPOSAL: This group would exist to provide a forum for people with an
interest in the area of architecture.  Discussion topics may include
architectural history, building conservation, philosophy, reviews of
new building, design of new architecture, CAD, architectural
education, construction, and anything that is related to architecture.

This newsgroup is not only for the architecture strudent or architect, 
but also including artist, student of art and design, and anyone that 
has interest in the area of architecture. 

PROPOSED CHARTER: alt.architecture - a group for discussion on all
matters related to architecture.

Dennis Lu
School of Architecture,
University of New South Wales,
Sydney, Australia.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: karl@ima.isc.com (Karl Heuer)
Subject: Re: alt.comics.lnh (bad name!)
Summary: how about alt.comics.net-heroes?
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:04:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.104751.953@raven.alaska.edu> mike@raven.alaska.edu (Mike Kienenberger) writes:
>I'd still recommend renaming it.
>How about "alt.comics.lgn-net-heros?"

Is it necessary to keep the word "legion"?  I would think a.c.net-heroes
would be good enough, and it avoids the vowel-dropping game.
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.privacy