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From: paw@ausom.oz.au (Peter Watson)
Subject: Re: Apple File Exchange problems
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:56:54 GMT
Reply-To: paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:

<I'm STILL having problems converting AW files to Microsoft Works.
<My school lab has LC2's.  I've installed Apple File Exchange on the
<hard drive of the LC.  I've formatted a new disk on the GS and then dragged
<the AW files from the 5.25" floppy to the 3.5" disk, formatted with
<GS/OS from System 6.0.
<Then I run Apple File Exchange.  I then put in the  3.5" disk.  I get the
<message that the Mac doesn't recognize the disk, and the question is asked
<if I want to format the disk or eject it.
<I tried formatting with different Sys Disks and re-installing Apple File
<Exchange- I get the same message each time.  I've verified the
<GS/OS formatted disk both with System 6 and with Copy2+ and there seem
<to be no errors.
<I can't figure out what is going on?  Any ideas?  Thanks!!

You would get this symptom if you had used a High Density disk on the GS and
formatted it for 800K. The GS drive (unless you have a 1.4Mb drive and Apple's
controller card) cannot recognise whether a disk is 800K or 1.4Mb, so it
treats all disks as 800K. The Mac, however, can tell the difference, and
complains because it does not allow 1.4Mb disks to be formatted for 800K as
this has reliability problems. Therefore, it asks you to format it!

The easy way to recognise a 1.4Mb drive is that it has TWO holes (the write-
protect hole and a similar hole with no slider on the other side). They often
have HD marked on them as well.

By the way, you may have trouble converting AppleWorks 3.0 files into
Microsoft Works if you plan on using the Works-to-Works translator in Apple
File Exchange. It only works (properly) with AppleWorks 2.0 files.

If you have a copy of ClarisWorks somewhere, you may be able to read the files
directly (ie. without actual _translation_ by AFE, just _copying_) once it
is on a Mac disk. The best solution is to use the Mac package "MacLink/Plus
Translators" which has excellent support for AppleWorks.

<Ron Reames.............reames@sendit.nodak.edu

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From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:46:55 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Super Hi Res Stuff
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <C173t9.Lt3@news2.cis.umn.edu> Wouldn't you like to know writes:
>Hey Paul :)

Hey Amrit, was wondering where you were.  So, what's your real mail
address?  The one in the header (umn.edu) or the one in your sig
(macalester)?  Don't know about your problem, except that a tight
assembly loop of pushing 00's on the SHR screen is pretty quick.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: NASA photos online?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:53:38 GMT


Does anyone know what NASA or JPL site I could FTP into to get scanned
Voyager images that would look good on a IIGS in 320 x 200?

Thanks...

Joe Kohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gray@feline.uucp (Kelly Gray)
Subject: Re: 'send *' in Kermit
Organization: Humber College Technology Dept.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:00:46 GMT

In article <9301180227.AA27473@max.ee.lsu.edu> mills@MAX.EE.LSU.EDU (John Mills) writes:
> no, no, no. Kermit DOES do batch transfers. I use it.
> 
> The problem may be with the Kermit on the host system. On the unix box here
> all I do is 'kermit send *.bsq' and ALL files with '.bsq' are sent.
> 
> On PT3.0, select 'receive kermit' and it will d/l each file sent.
> 
> I know this works... :)
> 
>   -- John M.
> 
> ===================================
> INet: mills@max.ee.lsu.edu (pref)
> AOL: jmills (@aol.com)
> GEnie: J.MILLS11
> 
 What version of Kermit are you running on your unix box? We have a
version of Kermit here that uses the sliding windows. I have yet to
manage a proper download using Kermit from ProTerm 3.0, but Kermit 3.87
handles things perfectly.
 
 I suspect that the root of the problem is that ProTerm doesn't support
the latest features from the newer versions of the Kermit protocol.
I suspect that ProTerm doesn't quite implement the every little detail
of the Kermit protocol, with the result that ProTerm gets confused by
the new command packets and gives up, aborting the transfer.
 


-- 

<o_o>    Kelly Gray
         gray@feline.uucp (preferred)
         gray@admin.humberc.on.ca
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:09:31 EST
From: <KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Bell and Howell ][+


I just picked up a Bell and Howell Apple ][+ and I was wondering if anyone
knows if the dual video outputs are coaxial connections or some custom
connector.  Know I only have three Apples!


Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Re: User IDs (the type field)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:00:10 GMT

In article <C1AxDC.9KD@rice.edu> jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:
>In chapter 12 of the Toolbox Reference (volume 1), the following is said
>about user IDs:

[excerpt from TB Ref 1 deleted]

>What does the statement "you must provide the value for the type field"
>mean?  Does this apply to all user IDs, including those returned from MMStartUp,
>or does it refer to the idTag parameter to the GetNewID procedure in the

It only refers to GetNewID; the ID returned by MMStartUp is complete and ready
to use.

>Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)


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From: pmichel@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Patrick Michel)
Subject: Re: Ace 1000 Plus: Questions...
Organization: ProLine [pro-applejacks]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 17:49:52 CST

The Microtek Dumpling-GX is a parallel printer card, so you couldn't hook a
modem up to it.  I have the docs for it.

                Patrick
madhatter@pembvax1.pembroke.edu writes:

>
>Hello,
>
>     I had a few more questions after looking under the hood of my 
>Franklin Ace 1000 Plus (Ace v2.2).  Like:
>
>     It had a card in it, I don't know what it is.  The only thing it has
>wrote on it is 'Dumpling-GX' and 'MICROTEK'.  Any ideas?
>
>     What termial programs work best with it?
>
>     Does it support the Super Serial Card so I can run a modem?  If so
>which slot does it go in?
>
>     Does it work just on a monitor or also on a T.V.(with one of those 
>little switch controllers)?
>
>
>                                       Thanx again,
>
>                                           Jason Jones

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From: isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Two Systems... One Hard Drive?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:05:24 GMT

Matt Ackeret (unknown@apple.com) wrote:
: 
: You could also use TaifunBoot. It's a nice program.. It can be easily
: configured to be virtually invisible.. If you press a modifier key
: (of your choice), then the TaifunBoot screen comes up and lets you
: choose a different System folder to boot.

	If you don't want to corrupt your file system, then DON'T USE
Taifun Boot!  Everything will appear to work fine until you try to
optimize your hard drive then, ...... heh heh heh.
	Apparently NinjaForce uses unorthodox techniques to modify the
existing ProDOS file and System folder info bits, corrupting them in the
process.

: --
: unknown@apple.com                         Apple II Forever
: unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   These opinions are mine, not Apple's.

- DOTW -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: extensions outside of Finder
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:28:47 GMT

>From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
 
>    Unfortunately, FExtNDA only sends out certain finderSays messages.
>That won't let you use FX's like QuickLaunch or INITMaster.  I'd love to
>see an NDA which places an "Extras" menu in every application.
 
(please post only once Brian)
 
Recreating the Extras would be difficult for an NDA. The only requests
extensions are expected to anticipate outside of Finder are
finderSaysBeforeOpen and finderSaysOpenFailed. Therefore, an NDA would have to
recreate the entire Finder environment to completely handle extensions.
However, QuickLaunch, for one, only (I guess) requires the Extras menu and none
of the Finder's other services. Also, if anything asked
tellFinderGetSelectedIcons, the NDA would respond with no icons. But how to
deal with tellFinderSetSelectedIcons or other requests for action?
 
Btw, it would be much simpler for the NDA to put Extras in its own window, not
the System menu bar.
 
If an extension seems Finder-independent and you want it outside of Finder, ask
the other for an NDA.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: FTP Archive Site
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:05:49 GMT

In article <HUANG1.93Jan22110044@husc11.harvard.edu> huang1@husc11.harvard.edu (Howard Huang) writes:
>joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:
>
>   Is there an Apple II oriented FTP site that has things like Zen and the Art
>   of the Internet or Hitchhiker's Guide to the Internet?
>
>ftp.uu.net [192.48.96.9] is "everything oriented."  The two papers, as
>well as others, are in /doc/internet, and there's some Apple II stuff
>in /systems/apple2.  
>
>UUNET also has mirrors of archives for other systems, BSD 4.2 source
>code and manuals, RFC's, and lots of other goodies.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Howard C. Huang      *      The MITRE Corporation      *      hhuang@mitre.org
> 
>             Yesterday, there was so many things I was never shown
>       Suddenly this time I found I'm on the streets and I'm all alone.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Howard - I just tried FTP to uu.net and got back a "unknown host".

Joe Kohn
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Failed Power SAupply
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:32:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The best bet is to get the Power Supply from AllTechWhen I had mine
repaired there the tech installed better parts then came in them when they
were new. He says the supplies including the AE heavy duty ones will fail
and I agree since mine lasted less then the stock Apple supply did. The
weak link seems to be a diode. The same also goes for the RamCharger from
AE.
freenet.edu (Steven H. Lichter}r fromom} th

Sysop Apple Elite II 714-359-5338 also via PC Pursuit CACOL
From: dlyons@APPLE.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  Bug in Finder 6.0
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:17:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hmmm...that's a new one on me, I'll paste your report into the bug
database.

Thanks!

--Dave
From: orion@leo.unm.edu (Tim Guerrette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: IIGS 1x8 DRAM Board Needed...
Date: 27 Jan 1993 00:55:08 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: leo.unm.edu

I have spent the last few weeks searching for a memory expansion board for my Apple IIGS because the Juice Plus that I had fried. Ihave tested the chips, all 32 of them, and they are fine. I just need an empty board to place them on so I can get up and running again. I called Applied Engineering and the local Apple Dealer and neither of them had any ideas. 

Does anyone have suggestions or a Juice Plus board they would like to sell? Please respond via e-mail to orion@polaris.unm.edu.

Thanks,

===============================================================================
Timothy Guerrette	    		Internet: orion@polaris.unm.edu
University of New Mexico		
Albuquerque, NM
           "It takes forever to reach from the Earth to the Stars "
===============================================================================
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  MIDISynth tool programming questions
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:04:57 GMT
Organization: The Internet

William Hall asks:
>1. In order to use a MIDI driver, it must be loaded into memory (by me).  By
>  looking through the synthLab code, I found that this must be done by a 
>  system loader call.  Where can I find the documentation for the system
>  loader?  (Possibly GS/OS Ref?)

Yes... the GS/OS maunal covers the System Loader as well.

>3. According to the SetTempo call, the tempo range is 10-265 BPM with the
>  parameter to the call ranging from 0 to 255 (BPM-10).  So how come synthLAB
>  takes the tempo value stored in a song file, subtracts 5, and then multiplies
>  the result by 2?

A guess... is the valuie stored in the file pre-scaled to 0..127 (i.e. a byte
with the msb clear?  That would explain the range offset calculation you're
seeing.  If the value is stored in a byte, and byte-wide math is applied, the
full range would be signed as -128..127, so storing it in a half-value form
would work.  This does create a small problem storing an "odd" temp value.

Marc Wolfgram
AOL: M Wolfgram   GEnie: M.WOLFGRAM2   inet: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com
There are two ways to write bug-free code and only the third one works!
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From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Re: EA -- Cartooners sound file format followup
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:08:48 GMT

Okay, the sound file is ASIF, which can be manipulated/created/edited with
(what else) AudioZap :)

The music file is SMUS, which is very common on the Amiga, and was used in many
Electronic Arts IIgs games like Zany Golf/Immortal, plus Instant Music.  I
have the SMUS filespecs...if anyone wants to write an editor for SMUS I'll be
glad to forward them, as I dont want to :)


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 "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: LLUCE vs. METAL: A losing battle
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:14:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


It is my understanding that it will be Multi-Line.

I don't want to flame anyone.

Steven H. Lichter
Apple Elite II
909-359-5338
Via CACOL PCP
From: unknown@apple.com (Matt Ackeret)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Don't clean drives!! (was Re: Problems Detected with System 6)
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:09:38 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <1993Jan25.165942.10473@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Grover Thomas,
grover@emunix.emich.edu writes:
> Ack!  Don't "clean" your 3.5" drives.  They rarely ever need it, if
> ever.  Even cleaning them once a year is probably too much.

'if ever' is probably a bit much.. It's recommended to clean heads on 
cassette tape players, so why not on disk drives?  Once a month 
surely seems like too much though.

On the same subject, Seven Hills came out with a disk drive head
cleaning disk and software.. It was in the paper yesterday in our weekly
"computing" section. They have software for Macs and GSs. (GASP!
The Apple II was actually mentioned in a general interest article!)
--
unknown@apple.com                         Apple II Forever
unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   These opinions are mine, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Petar E Puskarich)
Subject: Ramfast 2.01e to 3.0j Problems!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:24:48 GMT




Hello out there!   I have been very happy with my Ramfast rev C. 2.01e
card for as long as I have owned it till recently.

I upgraded to a 3.0j rom 


Now:::::::

		I have lost backrground tape backup support
			Ramfast access the disk but doesn't send
			to the tape drive in background
			In the util screen all works okay.


		I am frequently getting messed up file transfers under
		3.0   I suspect the Ramfast Revision or board  because
		nothing in my system has changed except for the upgrade
		Note this mostly happens when doing >4meg transfers.

		I have 8meg of system memory and know that is NOT the
		problem.  My directries on the hd are always getting
		messed up.  This happened once on 2.01e roms and 
		6 times now on the 3.0   Little things I can fix but
		none the less a nuisance.     Deliverance saved the day
		several times now.


Any clue?    Is there a design flaw with the ramfasts????????
I have heard rumors but that is all.   I would love background
tape support again, but I have just bought GSTape and need the
3.0 roms for that program to work.


Any insights welcome,


Petar Puskarich
ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu



P.S.  How do I contact CVtech through internet?

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(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0nFgAe-0000zSC; Sat, 23 Jan 93 00: 24 PST
From: samp@pro-gallup.cts.com (Sam Pemberton - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: DeskJet 500 TO GS--Help!!!!
Organization: ProLine [pro-gallup]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:10:05 MST

In <C1A6yG.H3I@vcd.hp.com> Mitchell McKinnon <mitchm@vcd.hp.com> writes:

>The HP DeskJet 500 printer contains firmware which limits its use
>strictly to DOS systems (RSXXX and Centronics I/O). ....

I'd swear that the printer I'm using with my IIgs is an HP DeskJet 500, and
that it works very well with AppleWorks, WordPerfect GS, and GS/OS
applications (with the right printer drivers).

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: GS+AFP Unix server
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:36:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.145101.13134@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert) writes:

[ ]
>
>Oh, please.  TCP/IP is the reason you are able to voice this brainless opinion
>all over the globe.  Consider the number of nodes connected to the Internet,
>and then tell me about the real world.

You may very well think it's brainless, but with little network experience 
I've set up a very workable network consisting of a wide variety of micros
and a NeXT (and the Amiga does support Appletalk via 3rd parties). The real
world is not the Internet. It often consists of hospitals, schools, etc...that
can benefit a great deal from the ease of setup of the type of network I am
talking about. Given that all kinds of resources are being shared 
seamlessly, and that TCP/IP based networks are very difficult to maintain
without some very capable administration, I would strongly suggest that you
are the one not in touch with what's out there.
 
Philip
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: AppleWorks to AppleWorks GS info
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:15:57 GMT
Keywords: appleworks, appleworks gs, avoiding headaches

In article <gy9TXB3w165w@bluemoon.use.com> comp.sys.apple2 writes:
> Having been using AppleWorks for years, and wanting to get as much 
> software as I possibly can in the GS/OS version (so I can run it under GNO 
> :) I've been looking at AppleWorks GS.
> 
> I have some pretty gnarly spreadsheets, which I don't want to have to 
> rework under AWGS, I don't even want to have to type in all the formulas 
> again. Is there a way to get all of my AppleWorks spreadsheet formats, 
> layouts, and formulas to read into AWGS?

Yes.  Use the 'Open' command under the File menu, and AppleWorks GS
will load the AppleWorks spreadsheet quite happily, formulas and all.

:-)


You need AppleWorks GS 1.1 (or was it 1.0v2?) to load in AppleWorks
3.0 files.  AppleWorks GS 1.0 will only load files from AppleWorks 2.1
and earlier.

A little editing will be required to get something that looks good
(e.g. text that straddles several columns should be reentered in a
single cell, and the 'overflow' cells should be cleared.

Note that you can't export AppleWorks GS spreadsheets back to
AppleWorks 3.0.


If you printed the spreadsheet to disk as an ASCII file, you would
have lost all of the formulas - only the values would be retained.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: "andrew andoniadis" <andrew.andoniadis@canrem.com>
Subject: gwiii<>clarisworks
Reply-To: "andrew andoniadis" <andrew.andoniadis@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:10:36 EST

Does anyone know of a way to move a Clarisworks Mac word processer file
to Graphicwriter III on a IIGS or vice versa?
Thanks
Andy A.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need help with some text files
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:41:50 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

IBM text files have returns followed by linefeeds, so the returns are where
they should be but every line _except the first_ has a Ctrl-J at the beginning
(there is probably also a lone extra line at the end with just a Ctrl-J in it).

Those files weren't transferred in text mode properly. If they were, you
wouldn't be seeing the linefeeds like this.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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From: tgeer@pro-gumbo.cts.com (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Failed Power Supply
Organization: TGraphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:49:09 CST

In <jmk3.727661704@crux1.cit.cornell.edu>
jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell) writes:

>>From: t4d192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Bruce Paul Dow)
>>Subject: Failed Power Supply
> 
>A new power supply should be about $80 at an Apple dealer. Other options are
>buying an AE heavy duty power supply for a little less or Alltech probably has
>power supplies. The II+ power supply is the same as a IIe power supply.
> 
>  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Sheve Systems has reconditioned Apple brand power supplies for around $50.00.
They carry a 120 day guarantee. (800) 227-3971

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From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Subject: Paul Benson's email address needed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:21:23 GMT

 I need Paul Benson's email address.  He's the author of rSounder.  If anybody
can help, please do.

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