HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: Swapfile Question
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:42:55 GMT

Bob Peirce #305 writes
> In article <1992Jul16.195458.8181@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> >	I agree that it would be nice if mach implemented some form of garbage  
> >collection so that the swapfile would shrink dynamically.    But it's really  
no  
> >worse than what the other unices do.
> 
> Also, at the risk of finding out the NeXT can do this, no Unix I have
> seen can shrink a file.  You can truncate them to zero, but as
> desirable as it would be, you can't seem to free part of a file.  On the
> surface this would seem to be a simple thing to do so maybe somebody
> does it, but I haven't seen it.
> 

Sorry Bob, Next can....

TRUNCATE(2)         UNIX Programmer's Manual          TRUNCATE(2)

NAME
     truncate - truncate a file to a specified length

SYNOPSIS
     truncate(path, length)
     char *path;
     off_t length;

     ftruncate(fd, length)
     int fd;
     off_t length;

DESCRIPTION
     Truncate causes the file named by path or referenced by fd
     to be truncated to at most length bytes in size.  If the
     file previously was larger than this size, the extra data is
     lost.  With ftruncate, the file must be open for writing.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops
From: hlh5721@zeus.tamu.edu (JIMI HENDRIX)
Subject: Re: Looking for unusual 486 Notebook / portable
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.010212.9657@pages.com>, bruce@pages.com (Bruce Henderson) writes...
>Hi there.
> 
>I need to find a portable intel based machine with the following features
> 
>486/25 DX or better CPU
>8-32 MB Memory (or better)
>At least a 200 MB Hard disk
>(and now the tough one)
> 
>a screen resolution of at least 1024x768.  
> 
>I realize that this will be hard to find and rather pricey.  Please respond by  
>e-mail to 
> 
>bruce@pages.com
> 
>Thanks
> 
>Bruce

Why do you limit yourself to an intel?  If your gonna do that you should wait 
for the new 486slc processor.  Gives you better battery life.  
Does it have to be a notebook?  If not, Compaq makes some pretty good
lunchbox computers that are reasonably small and have active matrix color
screens.  I think that toshiba may have a laptop in the resolution you need..


LEE HUDDLESTON,                 
Texas A&M University,
College St. TX

"This views expressed are mine and are not necessarily those of
  Texas A&M University, its faculty, staff nor students"
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:18117 comp.sys.next.hardware:1113
From: perelet@avignon.wri.com (Oleg Perelet)
Subject: Re: Number-Cruching on Next (raytracing SUMMARY)
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 01:19:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul16.235718.418@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ramesh@veda (Ramesh  
Dodamani) writes:
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> Has anybody been using NeXT for  number-crunching applications? How does  
it  
> compare with any of the equivalent Sun machines? 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Ramesh
In article <1992Jul16.235718.418@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ramesh@veda (Ramesh  
Dodamani) writes:
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> Has anybody been using NeXT for  number-crunching applications? How does  
it  
> compare with any of the equivalent Sun machines? 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Ramesh

Here is raytracing statistics:
I was using rayshade to render pool.ray (included in rayshade pakage).

Eye rays:                       850104
Shadow rays:                    839677
Reflected rays:                 44834
Refracted rays:                 0
Total rays:                     1734615
Intersecting rays:              1006258 (58.010%)
Shadow cache hits:              109220 (2100 misses)
Total shadow hits:              111320 (13.257%)
Supersampled pixels:            73431
B.V. intersection tests:        22342816
Plane intersection tests:       9752370 (1715264 hit, 17.588176%)
Box intersection tests: 8496699 (621628 hit, 7.316112%)
Sphere intersection tests:      69867 (22654 hit, 32.424464%)
Total prim. intersection tests: 18318936 (2359546 hit, 12.880366%)

SPARC2:
Total CPU time (sec):           1161.22 (1150.83u + 10.39s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0007
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0012
Total memory allocated:         80234 bytes
NEC:
Total CPU time (sec):           800.91 (794.53u + 6.38s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0005
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0008
Total memory allocated:         80214 bytes
RS6000:
Total CPU time (sec):           807.07 (806.68u + 0.39s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0005
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0008
Total memory allocated:         79931 bytes
NeXT33:
Total CPU time (sec):           1681.07 (1499.47u + 181.59s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0010
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0017
Total memory allocated:         79792 bytes
NeXT25:
Total CPU time (sec):           2357.74 (2141.41u + 216.33s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0014
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0023
Total memory allocated:         79804 bytes
HP 9000/730:
Total CPU time (sec):           439.83 (439.22u + 0.61s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0003
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0004
Total memory allocated:         80232 bytes
AVIION:
otal CPU time (sec):           0.00 (0.00u + 0.00s)
Seconds / ray:                  0.0000
Seconds / intersecting ray:     0.0000
Total memory allocated:         80235 bytes

--
Oleg Perelet
perelet@wri.com

--
Oleg Perelet
perelet@wri.com
From: dlw@atherton.com (Remo Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT and Mac LocalTalk printers?
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:43:25 GMT

Sonic Systems (408.736.1900) has a series of products called the EtherBridge  
Series which among other things allow you to share LocalTalk printers on an  
ethernet network. [in addtion it allows macs to be hooked up to the Ethernet  
network with no additional Ethernet hardware (other than ONE host Mac equipped  
with ethernet hardware)]. 

This is done via software placed in the System Folder on a Mac with an ethernet  
card on the network.

My question is with NeXT's support for LocalTalk under Ethernet (in 3.0) will I  
be able to see Mac LocalTalk peripherals on the NeXT side? Obviously I'd buy  
this product if I could PRINT to my LaserWriter NT from my NeXT via this set  
up. Or will I get this from the NeXT 3.0 Ethertalk support directly?

Anyone from NeXT care to comment?
--
David Williams -- dlw@atherton.com -- NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: digiuser@endor.byu.edu (Robert Perkins)
Subject: Getting onto the BETA list for NS486, 3.0
Reply-To: Rob_Perkins@byu.edu
Organization: Brigham Young University -- Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:29:47 GMT

I just got assigned the hurculean task of finding out how to get NeXTStep 486.

And I need to get it this month for our University's evaluation.  We are  
interested in employing the system for its ease-of-networking, way over on the  
other side of the world, in Jerusalem.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT IT.

If anyone can tell me who to contact about getting on the beta-test list for  
NS486, please let me know.  I can guarantee that we will give it a run for its  
money, and definitely pick up a few copies once its general release is released  
(and when will that be????)

--
Rob Perkins
BYU Systems Software Support Technician
Hi! I'm a .signature Virus! Copy me into your .signature and join the fun!
"My opinions are sick and can't come to work"
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Rob_Perkins@byu.edu NeXTMail welcome!
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: painless software distribution (was Re: Open letter to NextDevelopers)
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:45:37 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Jul21.153045.2395@informix.com> robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
> Blueberry Software distributes a neat demo of their file-conversion filter.
> Send them a blank tape, they send you a tape with their complete filter product  
> When you send Blueberry the purchase price, they send you a password -  
> install the password to disable the encryption, and you are ready to go.

nice scheme, but even better if they distributed by email.

I called Appsoft for a student copy of WriteNow, gave them
the credit number in the afternoon, they sent it via NeXT mail and
I was using it that night.  A fast and painless distribution
scheme that says money for everyone - they said its their preferred method.

Many companies will send demos that way too
-- 
-------------------------------
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does anyone have news on NeXT going public?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute

In article <BrKxK1.6LI@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice  
Shihadi) writes:
> In article <1992Jul11.204127.22949@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.Stanford.EDU  
(M Carling) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul11.173404.3582@selway.umt.edu> cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu  
> >(Richard D Warner) writes:
> >> 
> >> 	The last I heard, NeXT was planning on going public this fall.
> >> Is Jobs still holding to that statement?  Any gossip on what share  
> >prices
> >> will be, etc? 8->
> >
> >
> >About 9 months ago (Autumn Comdex I believe), Mr. Jobs said that NeXT  
> >would go public in 12 to 18 months. NeXT issued a press release recently  
> >(the one announcing their second round of mezanine financing) that  
> >indicated that the IPO would be next year (which is consistent with Jobs'  
> >initial mention of it).
> >
> >M Carling
> >Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
> >--
> >Bill Clinton lied to his wife. How can his country trust him?
> >George Bush lied to his country. How can his wife trust him?
> 
> I am interested in seeing some financial statements regarding 
> NeXT's profits etc.  When and how can one acquire copies?

Like virtually every other privately held company, NeXT does not make detailed  
financial statements available to the general public. All you can get is what  
NeXT has chosen to announce in press releases, etc., concerning sales,  
expenditures and profits. When NeXT actually choose to go public, then they'll  
need to issue a detailed financial report, but don't expect to see it a day  
sooner.  ..bruce..

P.S.  This is not only standard business practice, it's good business practice.

Bruce F. Webster
Director, BRI
bwebster@pages.com
#import <pages/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: Re: GNU sources for 3.0
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:55:06 GMT

In article <SOWA.92Jul29142750@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik  
C. Sowa) writes:
> According to the August nextworld extra, the battle for the inclusion of
> GNU sources on the 3.0 release CD has been lost. Apparently, they will
> be made available by ftp at some unspecified time. I might add that the
> excuses offered were pretty lame.
> 
> Could one of the 3rd-party CD offerings, e.g., BaNG, pick these files  
up?

Ask me again on Monday. I'm working on it. Please do not bombard NeXT with  
mail about.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Bill Clinton lied to his wife. How can his country trust him?
George Bush lied to his country. How can his wife trust him?
From: spagiola@amy5.stanford.edu (Stefano P. Pagiola)
Subject: Balky .ps file
Reply-To: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:47:24 GMT

I have a postscript file that produces business cards with our  
department logo.  This file has been around for some time, I believe  
it was originally created on a mac.  I'm trying to use it from my  
NeXT, so that we can take advantage of the 400 dpi on our rather  
complicated logo.  Preview shows the file (although it does give me  
various error messages about missing proper headers and incorrect ps  
information) but won't print it.  And often pukes on the file to the  
extent of returning me to the login prompt.
Anybody know a quick way to cure it (I'm very much  
postscript-ignorant)?  I heard that one of the NeXT graphics apps  
would solve many of these problems if you just opened the file in it  
and saved, but can't remember which it was and the few I have access  
to don't seem to have this magical effect.

Thanks in advance.

--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Subject: Kensington ADB trackball on NeXT?
Reply-To: basiji@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:38:35 GMT


People have posted hacks for Logitech trackballs in the past.  Has
anyone done this for the Kensington ADB trackballs yet?  

dave
From: tagreen@lothario.. (Todd Green)
Subject: Re: Alternate app for workspace
Reply-To: tagreen@cica.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 20:11:01 GMT

In article <1992Jun23.164512.22197@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>  
tagreen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Todd Green) writes:
> Is there a way to set an alternate program to run instead of the
> Workspace application?  (via dwrite or some other method).

dwrite loginwindow Workspace application

Thanks to Mike Matthews (matthews@ectds.com) and Gregor Purdy
(gregor@fredrik.oit.itd.umich.edu),

Todd
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: zsh help --- 2 "quirks"
Reply-To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:24:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.072454.11849@tetrasoft.com> jgrace@TetraSoft.com  
(Joseph R. Grace) writes:

> 1.  When I make zsh my Terminal:Preferences:Expert shell, it comes up  
fine  
> multiple times.  BUT if I close the window on the *first* Terminal  
window,  
> *all* the zsh windows die (and disappear).  Killing any other zsh window  
(but  

Strange, someone has reported this bug (?) already to the zsh-mailing-list.  
But I can't confirm it. I'm running zsh2.2.0 and it works fine!

Did you update /etc/shells ?

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From: ldp@pkyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Lyle Parkyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT vs. Mainframes...
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:45:42 GMT
Reply-To: ldp@pkyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Lyle Parkyn)
Distribution: na
Organization: V-NUS (Vancouver NeXT Users Society)

In article <1992Jul21.182304.1417@pkyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>  
ldp@pkyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Lyle Parkyn) writes:
> In article <1992Jul18.183940.29052@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
> aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) writes:
> > 
> > ok, guys....
> > I have a friend who is in a position to help make a 6,000 person
> > company (every person has a computer, thus 6,000 machines! big 
> > big deal!) switch from their IBM mainframes over to NeXTs. The
> > only problem is I need help coming up with a good presentation
> > to give to president/ceo/owner of the company to form a comittee.
> > I know NeXTs are for them (they will still need a VAX or two to
> > do some of the insurance processing but in general I think they
> > can switch over... Please, I think this kind of deal would not
> > only help out the company (they do a lot of mission critical
> > apps) but also give NeXT a big deal to break through the MIS
> > types... Thanx ahead of time... Please post responses I think
> > this discussion would benefit from an open forum basis. This
> > will show how far NeXT has really come and how far they have
> > to go...
> > CW
-- 
If this is a serious possibility and not just well intentioned enthusiastic  
dreaming on you or your friends part (no slight intended) then you must get  
NeXT (the company) involved. This would be an extremely large undertaking on  
the customers part and they need serious guidance from experienced people.  
Putting together a deal like this requires major resources and experience and  
even NeXT will be scrambling to pull this off. 

If you really want NeXT to stand a chance of getting this deal it is not, I  
repeat, not something for an amateur to attempt. NeXT Computer Inc. has done  
lots of presentations to big companies and know how to handle these situations.
-- 
=====
ldp@pkyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Mail and/or NeXTMail )
Lyle Parkyn - Reveal Development Service
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bwild@fzi.de
Subject: Menu Button Disabled
Reply-To: bwild@fzi.de
Organization: FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik, Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:34:33 GMT

Always when I make a login to my NeXT the setting for the (right) Menu Button  
is disabled. I have to enable it every time in order to use the right mouse  
button for the X server. I've already looked through all of my dwrite variables  
but I've not encountered a difference compared with other users. Which effect  
is responsible for such a behavior.
P.S. It's not the MouseButtonsTied setting, because I've tried it already.

--
Bernd Wild

===============================================
Bernd Wild                                       
Forschungszentrum Informatik FZI
Dept. Technical Expert Systems and Robotics
From: klakeman@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith Lakeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Paint (cannot find)
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:27:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19436
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


I need to paint a drive case to match my NeXT.  I can't find the paint
anywhere.  I saw the posting regarding the correct color:

>        Sprayon Paint
>        Omni-Packblend
>        4Next-Black (icon black)
>        LAV-16
>        25216
>
>
>Call 1-800-777-2966 for the name of a dealer near you.
>It's nominally $2.75/16 oz. can.

I called the number, and it appears to be the number to Omni.  They
say that they provide the propellent for paints, but thats all.
They couldn't help me with finding the color I needed.

Has anyone found this paint?



Keith Lakeman				   klakeman@plains.nodak.edu (Internet)
					       uunet!plains!klakeman (UUCP)
North Dakota State University			     klakeman@plains (Bitnet)

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					       uunet!plains!klakeman (UUCP)
North Dakota State University			     klakeman@plains (Bitnet)
From: cap+@cmu.edu (Chris Paris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: question about Kermit
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:15:29 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In article <26026@life.ai.mit.edu> sundar@fiber-one.ai.mit.edu (Sundar  
Narasimhan) writes:
> Hi, What is the escape character in Kermit on a Next (Cube/Station)? 

On my version of kermit, it's ^]. I built my version from the sources at  
columbia.edu, so I can't speak for what's on sonata.

--
Chris Paris
cap+@cmu.edu (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Micropolis MC1624 hard drive
Reply-To: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Organization: Hot Software
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:17:26 GMT

Does anyone know if the Micropolis MC1624 hard drive is NeXT-compatible?  By  
compatible, I mean is it easily formatted, etc The MC1624 is a 668MB 5.25"  
half height SCSI drive.  

Also, how does Micropolis compare against Fujitsu or Conner?  Does the  
Micropolis overheat?  Is it noisy?

Please reply to:  Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com

Thanks,
Robert
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Motd app -- where??
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:11:53 GMT

In article <BrxE9p.2tq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)  
writes:
> sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/1.0-release/source.
> The fact that it is in 1.0-release makes it a bit hard to find.

2.0-release/source has one too (and it's newer).

ab
From: pfkeb@kaon.slac.stanford.edu (Paul Kunz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: InstantTeX
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:05:53 GMT
Reply-To: pfkeb@kaon.slac.stanford.edu


   I've removed the InstantTeX suite of demo applications from  
ebnextk:/LocalApps.   They were causing too many problems.   If you are  
interested in InstantTeX, you can fetch it from the NeXT archive sites and  
place it in your own Apps directory.

   The files changed in LocalApps are...

TeXEdit.app	removed.
TeXWorks.app	removed
TeXview		restored to our orignal version.

--
Paul F. Kunz	(NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884   (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Subject: Re: Will there be a back to school special?
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:10:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.174243.20388@athena.mit.edu> chuck@hans.mit.edu (Chuck  
Parsons) writes:
> 
>   I am seriously considering purchasing a NeXT machine and was a little
> dissapointed to go down the the campus computer store (MIT) and find that
> the prices are a few hundred dollars more than I remember from last fall.

The bottom line price discount for pre-committed HUGE volume universities went  
from 40% off to 35% off list this spring.  Also, NeXT has the right to  
renegotiate the discount if it appears a university is not meeting their  
committment. MIT may have been affected by either one of these possibilities.
5% on 5000 is $250, within the definition of 'a few hundred dollars.'

>   Given the time of year I thought it possible that NeXT might be
> rolling out a promo for the new scholl year as well as to dump all the 
> slabs before the RISC machines come out (I assume they won't come out 
> before Christmas).

you think wrong.  The NRW is not going to affect the 'classic 8/105' 6 months
before your optimistic (read: I ain't holding a spot under my Xmas tree, nor
my easter basket, for a NRW) schedule.  6 months after, maybe, but not
before.  

If a new promo comes out, I suspect it to be announced August 1 or after.
I suspect it will be in the form of software bundling, and/or printer
bundling ("Get all this cool software for worth $2000, for $200, and
this printer for $100 off!")

>  Does anybody know of a better deal on NeXT machines or have any info

	buy used.  8/200s are going for 2900-$3500.

> of impending sales events?

	no.

- Geoff.
--
"The only thing obsoleted by Windows 3.1 is poking myself in the
eye with a pointed stick." - Gene Lee
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Guggenheim 10                                    (507) 284-1805
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