HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jonas@csd.uu.se (Jonas Barklund)
Subject: Re: Looking for RTF format
Organization: Uppsala University, Sweden
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:39:05 GMT

harcoh@cs.kun.nl (Harco de Hilster) wrote (Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:34:13 GMT):

> I looking for a description of the RTF format that is used by Microsoft Word.
> 
> If someone knows how to obtain it, please let me know.

Try anonymous FTP from kth.se in the directory
kth/tex/stuttgart/documentation/RTF or from src.doc.ic.ac.uk in
text/RTF.

Here is how I found out. It is a generally useful method finding
things like these, unless you don't have archie, in which case you
should get it.

groucho% archie RTF
Jul 13 1992     512 /ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de://pub/tex/documentation/RTF
May 15 1992     512 /indri.primate.wisc.edu://pub/RTF
Apr 28 1992     512 /puffin.doc.ic.ac.uk://text/RTF
Apr 28 1992     512 /src.doc.ic.ac.uk://text/RTF
Jan 13 1992     512 /kth.se://kth/tex/stuttgart/documentation/RTF
Oct 29 1991   29419 /mcsun.eu.net://comp/mac/hypercard/stacks/RTF
Aug 15 1991     512 /oskgate0.mei.co.jp://tmp_mnt/public/free/others/RTF
Jul  3 1991     512 /nic.switch.ch://software/sources/RTF
May 27 1991     512 /etlport.etl.go.jp://pub/NeXT/documents/RTF
groucho% 

Good luck! -- Jonas B.
--
Jonas Barklund, Computing Science Department, Uppsala University
Email jonas@csd.uu.se, phone +46-18-181050, fax +46-18-521270
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: peba1231@camillo.fb12.tu-berlin.de (Peter Bartsch)
Subject: No more 'smeared text' on RS6000
Organization: TU Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:27:06 GMT

Thanks to all who responded to my question concerning the
'smeared text' problem. The solution was to set

    Maker.textStippleFilled:        False

in .fminit2.0/xresources/Maker. That's strange because the comment says

!       If the resource Maker.textStippleFilled is set, then maker 
!       Will attempt to use stipple fills rather than copy planes
!       to image its text.  This resource should work in all cases ....
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IBM seems to be different 8-)

Peter

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Subject: Re: Drawing dashed lines
Reply-To: koelman@stc.nato.int
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:33:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.152944.12310@slc.com> daveb@slc.com (David Barnes)  
writes:
> In article <1992Aug15.154129.1455@informix.com> cortesi@informix.com  
writes:
> >In article <1992Aug14.084632.5078@stc.nato.int> koelman@cuby.stc.nl  
(Ton  
> >Koelman) writes:
> >> 
> >> How do I draw dashed lines (3.0, NeXT)
> >> I hope it can be done...
> >
> >To a small extent. Select the line and then in the tools
> >window, select a "Pen" color that is a striped texture.
> >
> >This is the nearest approximation to a dashed line. It is
> >not really very good.  You can make it work if your lines are
> >all at multiples of 45 degrees; however you must use a
> >different stripe pattern for each angle of line.
> 
> Also, be warned that if you rotate your artwork the pen stripes do not
> rotate with their lines.  Thus, with 90-degree rotation, perpendicular
> stripes become parallel, ruining the effect. Workarounds: anticipate
> the final orientation of the line and select the stripe pattern
> accordingly, or use 45-degree stripes.
> 
> Those who need complex graphics use third-party tools.  For those of
> us who can live with box-and-arrow diagrams, Frame's graphic tool is
> adequate in other respects.  However, I should think the lack of
> support for line styles would be a bit embarrassing to Frame.
> Definitely a weak spot.

Pity. Otherwise the drawing capabilities are adequate for me.
I particularly like the alignment stuff and the way it keeps text
centered in boxes. Multiple lines of text become separate objects
however so you have to align and group those if you want them centered
in a box..

--
Ton Koelman   e-mail: koelman@stc.nato.int (NeXT Mail Welcome!)
SHAPE Technical Centre, P.O. Box 174, 2501 CD  The Hague
The Netherlands  (voice: 31-70-3142429, fax: 31-70-3142111)
From: woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: PgUp and PgDn keys on Suns
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess)
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.; Campbell, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nest.hal.com

We're using Frame 3.0 along with X11R5, and the PgUp and PgDn keys do
not work.  Any ideas on how to enable them?

Thanks,
--woodstock
-- 
"It doesn't impress the girls, of course, but there's no sense
impressing them and then getting killed, my dad used to say..."  - Hobbes

woodstock@hal.com              11 kyu               (408) 379-7000 x1112
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: **HELP with Page Numbers in TOCs**
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:56:56 GMT
Reply-To: cortesi@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug13.160131.10248@lsil.com> bgossett@lsil.com (Brent Gossett  
6108) writes:
> ---
> [...has automated chapter numbers using an autonumber stream...]
> In the footer of each master page, the variable string Running H/F 3-#
> (where Running H/F 3 is <$paranumonly[chapter]>) inserts page
> numbers of the form 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, etc.
> 
> [...but that trick doesn't work for generated page numbers in the TOC]
>
> Is there any way to have Frame automatically update the prefixes in the
> book file "Setup" by pulling the chapter number from each file?
> 
	***** N O *****

This affects all generated page numbers, indexes as well as TOC.
These all come from those [expletive-deleted] book Setup
fields which can only be manually changed one at a bloody time
via about 3 menu levels.

Note: you can save a book file as MIF.  It is feasible -- not easy,
but feasible -- to write a UNIX shell script that will go through
a book MIF file and sequentially number the prefix values.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kate@medtronic.COM (Kate Seastone,MS-10,9295344,)
Subject: Master page text columns to body page
Keywords: master bodt page text columns
Reply-To: kate@medtronic.COM
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:47:16 GMT


I have noticed a peculiarity when applying master page
formats to body pages:

I have created 4 text columns on my master page "Right"
and 4 on my master page "Left" and the style sheets are
slightly shifted accordingly for binding. (... fine and dandy...)
(These text columns all have tags)

But... when I have a body page using "Left" and then change
it to use to formats/layout for "Right", the text columns which
showed on the "left" body page become 'fixed' on the page an
I get the text columns for the "right" page as well. 
ie. Now I have 8 text columns on my body page, and all are 
slightly shifted and overlapping now.  

Is there a way to avoid this and just get "Right" when I want
the right layout and "Left" when I specify the left layout?

Is there something funky about text columns on master pages
and how they apply to the body page - do they become actual
parts of the body page?



---
Kate Seastone					Sr. Software Engineer
Medtronic/Micro-Rel				"Toward Man's Full Life"
kate@tmp.medtronic.com				(602) 929-5344

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: NO FUN in Pittsburgh!
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:55:31 GMT


It has come to my attention that THIS is the third Thursday of an even
numbered month.  But I've been on vacation for the last three weeks, so NO
arrangements have been made, and there will be NO FUN in Pittsburgh tonight!

After I get back to work, I'll figure out what we WILL do.
Sorry!

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
From: laufer@math.luc.EDU (Konstantin Laufer)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: bibframe in OLframe?
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:16:44 GMT
Reply-To: laufer@math.luc.edu
Organization: Loyola University Chicago

Has anyone gotten the bibframe package to work with OLframe 3.1 on a
Sparc?  It appears that the Frame cut and paste functions do not work
inside a dialog box.  However, the bibframe keyboard macros rely on
this functionality when generating a variable name from a key in the
document.  Any suggestions?  Thanks,

-- 
-Konstantin [laufer@math.luc.edu]
From: garyf@xserver.uts.amdahl.com (Gary Faulkner)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Page Numbering
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:33:06 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

Thanks to all who responding to my question.  It appears as if using book 
files is the way to go.

-- 
Gary Faulkner -- My views are no more Amdahl's than Amdahl's views are mine.

     Brought to you by the letter 'G'.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ajackson@csr.UVic.CA (Ann  Jackson)
Subject: Re: LaTeX to framemaker conversion
Reply-To: ajackson@csr.UVic.CA (Ann  Jackson)
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:56:55 GMT

In article <12914@inews.intel.com>, hmuljon@cad625.intel.edu (Harry Muljono ~) writes:
>Does anyone know of a way to convert LaTeX into a framemaker readable file 
>without using dvi2ps and the getting and eps file?  Please respond with mail.
>Thanks in advance.

I need this information also. Perhaps it should be an FAQ?
In the meantime, I would greatly appreciate advice by email or posting.

Ann Jackson
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mrj@cs.su.oz.au (Mark James)
Subject: Re: Problem printing Frame docs with embedded Postscript (WRAPAROUND)
Reply-To: mrj@cs.su.oz.au (Mark James)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:18:51 GMT
Keywords: postscript

The problem has been isolated  -- it is the same as Volker Bringewatt's
problem.  Frame does not include the first 256 bytes of the image and
so the file does not print (the showpage gets eaten) and the image
wraps in the bounding box (scanline sync has been lost).

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: peba1231@camillo.fb12.tu-berlin.de (Peter Bartsch)
Subject: Framemaker displays 'smeared text'
Followup-To: Comp.unix.aix
Organization: TU Berlin
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:37:34 GMT

Hi,

we've got a FrameMaker-Demo but most of the time it only
shows some kind of garbage ('smeared text'). I can see the
layout but i can't read anything. 

Hardware + Software:    - RS6000/Mod. 320
                        - 2d Graphics adapter ('Skyway')
                        - AIX 3.1.6
                        - X11 Rel.3
                        - International FrameMaker 3.1X.
                          Copyright (c) 1986-1992 Frame Technology Corp.

Any hints !?!?!

Thanks,

Peter

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Bartsch, TU Berlin, Sekr. F2, Marchstr. 14, 1000 Berlin 10
Tel.: (030) 314-23093, e-mail: peba1231@camillo.fb12.tu-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine)
Subject: Re: Rotate Objects != 90 degrees?
Keywords: framemaker, drawing, rotation, objects
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:03:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.111156.16780@eua.ericsson.se> euakan@eua.ericsson.se (Theo.Kanter) writes:
>In FrameMaker 3.0 I would like to be able rotate Objects any nymber of 
>degrees. Not just 90 degrees. This works for lines by dragging the ends 
>around, but is there some function which allows one to rotate objects by
>an arbitrary number of degrees?

Use the following key sequences:

	<Esc> g x : RotateObjectEXactlyByTypingInAngle
	<Esc> g i : RotateObjectInteractivelyByMousing

This used to be an undocumented feature (<Esc> x x 1 and <Esc> x x 2), but 
now I think it's documented.  It doesn't work on all object types... for
example, I think you can't rotate text, grouped objects, or polygons.

- David D. Levine, Intel Supercomputer Systems Division == davidl@ssd.intel.com
  "We control the horizontal; we control the vertical."
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bruno@nariwork15.ethz.ch
Subject: Equation question
Reply-To: bruno@nariwork15.ethz.ch
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:42:51 GMT


I'm trying to write an equation that looks as follows:

A = xxxxxxxxx
  = yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
  = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Using a 3x3 Matrix: How can I set the aligning of the cells in the third column to "left" ???  They are always centered !

Thank's for help, Bruno.

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz)
Subject: Re: Printing text-only files to disk
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:26:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug19.173755.23361@pony.Ingres.COM> sstark@Ingres.COM (Scott Stark) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of a way to print a file to a disk as plain text?
>

In Frame for windows, printing text only to disk should work, but is doesn't.

Here's how it DOES work for other Windows apps:

1) Install the "Generic / Text" printer and connect it to "File" through 
   the Control Panel.

2) Fire up the windows app you want to print with.  Print normally.  A dialog
   pops up and asks you what file to write to.

Here's what REALLY happens with WinMaker 3.00:

1) Perform step 1 above.

When you fire Frame up, you get a message from Maker that says:
"Cannot print because the selecetd printer is not compatible with
 FrameMaker (cannot query escape 13)"

This kinda bums me out, as it shows another example of how loosely Frame
has tied into the Windows thing.

I've no idea how to do it on the Unix platforms.

Gary "I want Frame for OS/2" Dietz
-- 

   "To find fault is easy; to do better may be difficult."  -Plutarch

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kremer@cs.utwente.nl (Harro Kremer)
Subject: Re: Keeping diagrams fixed on a page
Keywords: fixed anchor figures
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:40:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.113411.19958@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>,
phang@eecg.toronto.edu (Khoman Phang) writes:
|> 	Does anyone know how to keep a set of diagrams fixed on a page? 
|> I have a couple of figures I'd like to keep together on one page. Below
|> each figure I've created a smaller text frame in order to place a figure
|> title.  I've tried disabling the flow around the page with the diagrams, but
|> then the autonumbering scheme for my figures screws up, and starts from n=1
|> again.  

We do the following to solve this problem in Frame 3.0
We use a table containing 2 cells, each figure is placed in a single cell. 

-- 
    ___             Harro Kremer                    <kremer@cs.utwente.nl>
 __/   \__________
|  \___/          | Univ. of Twente,   Dept. Computer Science,  TIOS-group
|___     __   ___ | P.O. Box 217,   NL-7500 AE  Enschede,  The Netherlands
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From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca (Mike Dustan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: List of "Building Blocks"
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:00:24 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6B96405A8012B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:00:21 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7

While strolling through the reference pages of a generated list of
something-or-other (I think it was external references), I came across a
useful but undocumented little "building block" called <$autorange>. This
seems to combine entries that appear on several consecutive pages into
one ranged entry. For example, if you have references to "OLC" on pages
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11 and 12 you'll get

OLC 1, 3-8, 11-12            (with <$autorange><$pagenum>)
and
OLC 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12      (with just <$pagenum>)

Nifty, especially as it works in indexes too. However, as far as I can
see it's undocumented.

So... is there a *complete* list of these building blocks anywhere? There
are several sets I can think of: variables, system variables,
autonumbering and of course generated lists.

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
From: euakan@eua.ericsson.se (Theo.Kanter)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Rotate Objects != 90 degrees?
Summary: Is it possible to rotate Objects an arbitrary number of degrees?
Keywords: framemaker, drawing, rotation, objects
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:11:56 GMT
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden


In FrameMaker 3.0 I would like to be able rotate Objects any nymber of 
degrees. Not just 90 degrees. This works for lines by dragging the ends 
around, but is there some function which allows one to rotate objects by
an arbitrary number of degrees?

--

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Theo Kanter		ELLEMTEL Telecommunication Systems Laboratories
			Box 1505, S-125 25 [lvsj| (AElvsjoe), Sweden
From: dok_hfa@pki-nbg.philips.de
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,pki.frame
Subject: Motif FrameMaker X.3.0.2 / Design of Icons
Date: 12 Aug 92 07:45:16 GMT

Is there any way to change the outfit of the Icons that FrameMaker (Motif X.3.0.2)
displays for closed documents? We have to use very long filenames which don't fit
in the 7 characters in the icons. Maybe it is possible to change the size of the
fonts used in the icons.

Thanks in advance.

Hans-Juergen



--
                    | Philips Kommunikations |Voice:  +49 911 5262974 
                    |      Industrie AG      |Fax:    +49 911 5263545 
Hans-Juergen Faerber|  Techn. Documentation  |E-Mail: 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: template directory
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:56:08 GMT

tbecker@zwei.informatik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Becker) writes:

>I have my own set of frame templates stored in a directory.
>Is there any way to make FrameMaker look into this directory instead of
>the default fmtemplate directory?
The name is  fmtemplates
                       ^
and FrameMaker looks for this directory
1) in the directory where it was started,
2) in your home directory,
3) in its installation directory
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mnash@IDA.ORG (Mike Nash)
Subject: Re: Charakter Stacking
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:28:29 GMT

markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof) writes:
: 
: Question:	How to get a letter with a ~ or a ^ above that letter?
: 

From the on-line help page entitled "Typing special characters"...

		 Tilde                         Esc ~ a (or A), o (or O), n (or N)
         Circumflex                    Esc ^ vowel
-- 
	  Mike Nash     |  My object all sublime, I shall achieve in time,
	  mnash@ida.org |  To let the punishment fit the crime,
	                |  The punishment fit the crime.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: frame Xresources
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:36:31 GMT

I see some mention in the FAQ of 'Maker*background: white', etc.,
and I see a little here and there about various other resources,
but IS THERE ONE ALL-INCLUSIVE LIST of the Xresources supported
by framemaker?  Any difference in the X and OL versions?
-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: hypertext
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:24:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug21.143916.28261@csi.on.ca> tina@csi.on.ca (Tina Klein) writes:
>I am running Frame 3.0 on a MAC IIci.
>
>1) I have just hyperlinked an 80 page reference document.
>   There are links within the text AND
>   navigational icon links which are feeding from a set of L/R
>   master pages.
>
>   When the document is saved as View Only (required for links 
>   to work, of course) and my users navigate with the scroll
>   bar _instead of_ my icons,  they also (unintentionally)
>   disable the icon links which feed from the master page if these
>   links change x-y co-ordinates relative to the terminal.

I've found this in a couple of hyptext docs I've done under
Sunview - if the entire page is not displayed on the window, any 
hypertext markers on the master page are ignored. They don't 
even react as hypertext markers with the reverse flashing when
selected. 

I've called Frame and sent a message to comments@frame.com but 
haven't heard anything for a week.
-- 
John Switzer               | "Don't mess with me, man!
                           | I'm a higher mammal!"
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | 
jrs@netcom.com             |
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Drawing dashed lines
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:09:51 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

daveb@slc.com (David Barnes) writes:
]...[
 
> Those who need complex graphics use third-party tools.  For those of
> us who can live with box-and-arrow diagrams, Frame's graphic tool is
> adequate in other respects.  However, I should think the lack of
> support for line styles would be a bit embarrassing to Frame.
> Definitely a weak spot.

I agree.  And...it's been that way since 1.0.

steve

--
play: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US 408.252.0578    work:harding@nas.nasa.gov
              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rlw@fafner.ida.org (Richard Wexelblat)
Subject: Help in interlocking numbering sequences requested
Reply-To: rlw@fafner.ida.org (Richard Wexelblat)
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:26:29 GMT


[Sorry if this's a FAQ, but..]

I can't figure out how to key two numbering sequences off one section
number.  What I want is something like:

Section 1.
      Figure  1.1
      Figure  1.2
Subsection 1.1
      Figure  1.3
Subsection 1.2
      Figure  1.4
      Figure  1.5
Section 2.
      Figure  2.1
Section 3.

But all I can get is:

Section 1.
      Figure  1.1
      Figure  1.2
Subsection 1.1
      Figure  1.1
Subsection 1.2
      Figure  1.1
      Figure  1.2
Section 2.
      Figure  2.1
Section 3.

But I don't want to have to put in a <n=2>.<n=1> explicitly when I begin
the Section 2 figures.

Any suggestions?
-- 
--Dick Wexelblat  (rlw@ida.org) 703 845 6601
  The more viruses you get exposed to, the better your immune system becomes.