From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase )
Subject: Re: Using TCP via ARA
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:42:16 GMT

In article <werner-111292081034@128.32.157.31>, werner@soe.berkeley.edu
(John Werner) wrote:
> 
> I have to start working off-site soon, away from the wonderful internet
> access we have on campus.  I was about to post something asking how I could
> get some sort of dialup TCP access without SLIP, since I don't have control
> of a Unix machine to put SLIP on.  But I saw this post first:
> 
> In article <1992Nov27.011126.13909@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu>,
> cherry@OPAL.MGH.HARVARD.EDU wrote:
> 
> > One configuration was not included in the original message. That is
> > just simply use ARA and MacTCP. This way you don't need to worry about
> > SLIP, and you get all of the AppleTalk services available on the
> > network you are calling into.
> > 
> > I'd suggest the ultimate solution would actually be a LanRover/E
> > connected with V.32bis modems and ethernet. Then use ARA and MacTCP on
> > the remote Macintoshes.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with this scenario, i.e. using MacTCP over
> an ARA connection on v.32bis modems?  I mostly just use Eudora and
> NewsWatcher, with occasional FTP, Gopher, Telnet, etc.  Would the
> performance be good enough?  I'm guessing yes, but I'm not sure.  I also do
> some backups over the net to a Unix machine running CAP, but I don't care
> too much about the performance for that.

YES....YES....YES....Mucho experience and it works great @ 9600bps
although I am upgrading the host modems to 14400bps...
 
> I also need hardware suggestions.  My office here has both ethernet and
> phonenet connections, but there won't be a Mac here to be an ARA server. 
> Am I guessing correctly that LanRover/E is a dedicated ARA server that
> connects to ethernet?  Is there a cheaper LocalTalk version too?  

Originaly I had 4 LanRover/L's....Those are the Localtalk versions
single port...I now have a LanRover/E/4 Port....Both are dedicated
server's (ARA Built-in) I went with the E's due to the packaging and
the need for a Dial-in Rotary to service multiple user's at once.
Each LanRover/L allows one connection at a time.
 
> I'm not even sure that a LanRover is what I really need or if it would be
> overkill.  We already have a bunch of FastPath boxes that provide a gateway
> from AppleTalk to TCP, so maybe I just need a way to get attached to
> AppleTalk remotely.  And I only need to do this for one mac, and I get the
> impression that LanRover allows multiple connections.

The L model 1 connection the E model you can get in either a 4 or 8 port
configuration. On both models you need to purchase an external modem.
If it is just yourself that is going to be dialing in then you may just
want to put a modem on your office machine and and run ARA on that.
Although
with that scenario you will have to leave your Mac on all the time. The 
LanRover is ARA in a box.
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Peter Haase                                   haase@meediv.lanl.gov
Los Alamos National Laboratory                Applelink: HAASE
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