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From: lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca (Jason Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 11:41:23 PST
Organization: TradeNET International Trade Corp.

Anybody here know if it is possible to request "common carrier status" 
for a BBS?  For those of you not familiar with this, or perhaps looking 
for an american equivalent, this status is granted to services such as 
radio stations and telephone companies, and absolves them of all 
responsibility for what happens to transpire through their services.  I'm 
wondering if I can apply for this for my bulletin board so that I am not 
held responsible for pirated files that rest on my drive though I don't 
use them.  I don't see why this WOULDN'T be granted, but I'm wondering if 
anybody out there has done this or knows how I might go about doing so.

                                        Jason Cooper
From: mdh@genco.bungi.com (Michael Hackett)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: 1 Jan 93 15:00:04 GMT
Reply-To: mdh@genco.bungi.com (Michael Hackett)
Organization: Gentry & Assoc. Excelsior Springs, MO


	Another thought I had for you, Jasion, was that there is a
_HUGE_ difference in laws reguarding "hacking" in the US and other
countries.  The US has very tough regulations, and little sympathy
now; but I do know that the anti-hacking laws in most of Europe are
quite loose.  (So reports Forbes magazine.)

	But, I don't know what the status of the laws are in Canada.
I would imagine that they more closely resemble those anti-hacking laws
of the US, rather than those of the European nations.

"Be well..."
  Michael

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~~  IMPORTANT:  Most Emailers, don't grok my !-path address, therefore ~~
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From: thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams [SysOp])
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 10:30:19 EST
Organization: Runic Writings / Lawrenceville, GA

klaus@cscns.com (Klaus Dimmler) writes:

> In a nutshell, as a BBS operator there is really no way that you can get
> around having to check all the files before they are permitted as
> download. You might as well not have a public file area if you are not
> willing to do that. What many boards do is get lots of fileop volunteers
> who share the responsibility of checking out files.

     However, its easy to automate viris checking, and almost a
     necessity.  Looking for pirated files is a completely other ball of
     wax.


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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
From: bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
Subject:  ALL WWIV SYSOPS
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:45:28 GMT

New Net - MoshNET - For Information mail bryce@sdf.lonestar.org 
with your BBS Name and Phone #  -OR- Call The Dynamite Jet Saloon
at +1 214 329 6674 ..

Thank You
bryce@sdf.lonestar.org
From: Peter.Kauffman@f102.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Peter Kauffman)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: second test
Date: 2 Jan 93 17:57:00 GMT

Hello All,


This is my second test...

Someone send me a reply, but it didn't come to me.

It seems some trouble with the USENET FIDO conversion.

So...


Bye,

Peter
From: martin.altorfer@active.ch (Martin Altorfer) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: second test
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Active-Net BBS - Rapperswil, Switzerland
Reply-To: martin.altorfer@active.ch (Martin Altorfer) 

Hi Peter

PK.This is my second test...

PK.Someone send me a reply, but it didn't come to me.

PK.It seems some trouble with the USENET FIDO conversion.
.
This one seems to be ok Peter

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 InterNet: martin.altorfer@active.uucp.ch
 Martin Altorfer, Eschenweg 4, CH-8645 Jona, Voice: 41-55-27 82 46
 ACTIVE-NET BBS Switzerland V.32bis,V.42bis,HST  Data: 41-55-26 18 15
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 . 1st 1.02b #1033s . The difference between doing it and not doing it is doing it
From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: NEW
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 

He said:

-> From: Peter.Kauffman@f102.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Peter Kauffman)
-> Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
-> Subject: new
-> Message-ID: <725652951.F00001@monly.wlink.nl>
-> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:51:00 -0100
->
-> All,
->
-> I am new...
-> Hello.
-> My BBS is connected and it's called
-> ANESTHESIOLOGY.
-> The area's I am interested in are the scientific medical orientated.
-> You will hear.....
-> Bye
-> Peter

Hey, you didn't even post a phone number or telnet address?  How are
people supposed to find your BBS?  By telepathy???
                                                                                                    
----
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
| HAL 9000 BBS +1 313 663 4173 or 663 3959 | Four 14.4k v.32bis dial-ins |
| Public Access QWK-to-Usenet gateway      | With PCBoard 14.5aM & uuPCB |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
From: davea@hotcity.COM (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:20:04 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <o87JwB1w165w@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca>, lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca
(Jason Cooper) writes:
>Anybody here know if it is possible to request "common carrier status" 
>for a BBS?  For those of you not familiar with this, or perhaps looking 
>for an american equivalent, this status is granted to services such as 
>radio stations and telephone companies, and absolves them of all 
>responsibility for what happens to transpire through their services.  I'm 
>wondering if I can apply for this for my bulletin board so that I am not 
>held responsible for pirated files that rest on my drive though I don't 
>use them.  I don't see why this WOULDN'T be granted, but I'm wondering if 
>anybody out there has done this or knows how I might go about doing so.
>
>                                        Jason Cooper

This is a LOADED question.....  If you have not read or heard of them yet, may
I recomend that you first check out BBS Digest and Boardwatch.  These are the
two magazines that cater to us in the BBS world (both users and sysops). 
Another sourse is your local sysop group.  And then there is a book "Syslaw".  

Having just recived my copy of the book (Syslay), I am drawing only from my
limited (1 year active) experience as a sysop.  But, after attending one of the
United Sysops Assoc. meetings where we had an agent from the FBI as a guest
speaker, I came away with the feeling that generaly if you know of "criminal
activity" on your BBS then the "boys in blue" will be after you.  This
knowledage would be that of a reasonalbe person.  In other words if you set  up
a BBS that caters to that of "underground" or sharing of copyrited software or
other like activities, then expect a knock at your door with little sympathy. 
Buth then, if you set up a BBS without any "underground" file or message areas
and should some kind of undesired activity comes to your attention and you
corroperate with the powers that be, you have little to noughting to worrie
about.  The book Syslaw goes into excelent detail of this.

I hope this helps a little.

Dave,  This  T E S T  BBS, 408-847-0911
Xref: sparky alt.bbs.allsysop:857 comp.bbs.misc:1635
From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
Keywords: PCBoard, Frontdoor, X00, crash, BBS
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 09:20:29 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF) writes:

> First, let me describe the system.
> 
> of my files are compressed with PKLITE 1.03, and I use MS-DOS 4.01.

First, if you're running on a 386, a DOS 5 upgrade is in order... the 
cost is nominal, and you'll gain some healthy RAM and speed with it,
and quite possibly your errors will cease.

> The problem is, the system periodically crashes with the error:
> Cannot load COMMAND, system halted
> It does this when exiting doors (especially QuickBASIC doors, but not
> exclusively) and when exiting regular programs.

My guess is that you don't have enough file handles available... but it
could also be your STACKS= or FCBS=... how do you currently have these
set in CONFIG.SYS?

Michael

----------=============================================----------
     Michael Pearl      |       Professional Exchange Services
     mpearl@pes.com     |       Bethesda, MD
                        |       (301) 907-0349
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
From: larry@gator.use.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Multiple Phone Lines???
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:55:32 GMT

shane@hisfood.Corp.Sun.COM ( Shane Brandon White ) writes:

>What is the best way to run multiple phone lines into an IBM compatible? 

Run Unix (grin)..

Actually, for general use, Unix would be the best solution.  It will allow
you to support up to 512 serial ports, complete networking, execution of
DOS applications, execution of massive amounts of Unix applications, etc.  Unix
is designed for multiuser, multitasking operating from the start.

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.use.com
keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Xref: sparky alt.bbs:7776 mi.misc:818
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,mi.misc
Subject: Re: Detroit Area
Date: 30 Dec 1992 01:49:10 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Mark M Woodward (cg011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:

: My sister ( and her kids) got a computer and modem for Christmas.
: Does anyone have any good BBS's in the Detroit/Pontiac area??
: I'd love to find one that we could communicate on, in mail at least.

Msen offers dialup Internet access in the 313 area code - contact
info@msen.com for details.  I've cross-posted into mi.misc to let
whoever else is in the area that would like to respond a chance
at it.

thanks

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.dcom.telecom,biz.comp.services,comp.mail.misc
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: compuserve
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Keywords: good, bad, ugly
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:31:59 CST


	My wife has lately begun to express interest in getting into
CompuServe. Since I've had continuous and copious Internet access for five
years+ now, I know next to nothing about CompuServe, and thus have no idea
whether it's likely to be cost-effective for our purposes.

	I would like to hear whatever comments CompuServe subscribers
have to make about the service. In particular I'm interested in

*	ease and reliability of email traffic to/from Internet

*	"reasonable"ness of pricing, in particular relative to
	public access Unix

*	incidence of busy signals

*	learning curve for the computer novice



	Any and all opinions welcome. Please respond by email. Thanks.

Jeff Carroll
carroll@herndon.cray.com
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:56:52 GMT
Followup-To: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account (isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu) wrote:
: In article <1hqe5oINNjng@life.ai.mit.edu> petrilli@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli) writes:
: >In article <N5XcwB1w165w@pes.com> mpearl@pes.com (Mike Pearl) writes:
: >>> > *However*, the world of GUI didn't begin until Apple "just did it".
: --------------------^^^^^^^--------------
: 
: No, Xerox, Stanford and MIT didn't do anything with their GUI's.

Nope.  Xerox took an initial dive into the PC market with its
PARC-developed Star a couple of years before Apple released the Lisa.
Unfortunately, Xerox targeted the machine for the corporate market
which was still uneasy with the notion of personal computers on
office desktops.  The machine got a lot of press interest and not
much else.  Xerox cut its losses and ran earlier than it probably
should have.
-- 
Stephen Manes					   manes@magpie.nycenet.edu
Manes and Associates/Commontech-NoHo		   New York, NY, USA  =o&>o
From: steve.leu@odybbs.gvl.oh.us (Steve Leu)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: FAX DOORS FOR BBS USE.
Date: 26 Dec 92 01:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve.leu@odybbs.gvl.oh.us (Steve Leu)
Organization: The Odyssey BBS - Garrettsville, OH - 216-527-2186

-> I would like to add a FAX door to my BBS....  The program would have
-> to send the FAX out AFTER the caller logged off (only one line).  If
-> you have run one or several could you tell me your experiences with
-> each.

I might have what you need, it's a Fax Door for most BBS's.  The
filename is FAXEM15.ZIP.

-> Also I would rather get it by FTP or Fidonet FREQ.  Thanks for any
-> help you can give me.

I do have Fidonet, but FAXEM15.ZIP is on a CD-ROM, so my front-end
(Binkley) would take forever for it to search for the file; therefore,
you can quickly logon as a newuser w/ instant validation and download
it.  We support 14.4k.  See signature below.

Steve Leu  Internet: steve.leu@odybbs.gvl.oh.us
Garrettsville, OH    steve.leu@odybbs.UUCP  Fido 1:157/611
Organization: The Odyssey BBS *  HST/v32b * 216 527-2186
From: David.White@launchpad.unc.edu (David White)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Blue Wave v2.12 - where is it?
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:00:30 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


Could someone please tell me a site where I can find Blue Wave v2.12? (or
could someone kindly upload it somewhere?)  Hey, thanks!

=-=-= David =-=-=
David.White@bbs.oit.unc.edu
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: mimir@hardy.u.washington.edu (Al Billings)
Subject: Re: Cheap, tawdry bbs ad
Organization: The Friends of Loki Society
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:20:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.080751.24166@u.washington.edu> jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long) writes:
>
>
>		Hotel Chelsea Bbs
>		(206)432.6904
>	
>	A Cyber-culture oriented bbs.
>	No monthly fee
>	Free everything
>	Give it a call now
>

 And as full of shit now as ever!!

 Your BBS has been a dive for years. Give it up or are you still
 trying to draw the "elite" crowd for your "warez?"
From: dfox@fennec.com (Scott Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: MUD!!
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:43:57 GMT
Reply-To: dfox@fennec.com
Organization: Fennec Information Systems / Orbital Data Haven II

nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

> In article <BPgcwB2w165w@visavis.cam.org>, abolins@visavis.cam.org (August Ab
> > 
> >         What are MUDS?  I hear people mentioning them.
> > 
> > 
> > ---  /|ugust /|bolins  ---------------------[ abolins@visavis.cam.org ]---
> 
> MUDs as far as I can tell from playing them, are Dungeon Type games you can
> TELNET and play on the NET. Like I play one in Korea and Im in Nome, Alaska.

Yes...MUD stands for (M)ulti-(U)ser-(D)ungeon.
D&D type software. I've seen one run on Unix in Europe that had
over 10,000 different rooms. After 8 months, I had not even came close
to finishing half of it.

---------------------| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |----------------------------
Scott Davis          |   will work for food    | dfox@fennec.com
Domain Administrator |   ...and $125,000       | Fennec Information Systems
(512) 451-9769       |        a year!          | Austin, Texas USA
---------------------| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |----------------------------
From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Commerce Business Daily o
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:05:32 EST
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

KD>Path: pes!uunet!olivea!spool.mu.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!csn!cns!klaus
  >From: klaus@cscns.com (Klaus Dimmler)
  >Newsgroups: alt.bbs
  >Subject: Commerce Business Daily on-line provided by CNS
  >Message-ID: <Bzz1Fz.ECu@cscns.com>
  >Date: 28 Dec 92 13:28:46 GMT
  >Sender: news@cscns.com (News)
  >Organization: Community_News_Service
  >Lines: 32
  >Nntp-Posting-Host: cns
  >X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


KD>Starting Jan 4, 1993, CNS will offer the Commerce Business Daily on line.
  >You will be able to do a keyword search, and view the results on the
  >screen. You will have the option of sending a given result to your email
  >address.

KD>This is part of CNS's new offering called "BusinessLink".  Access is
  >offered by one of the following methods:

KD>       1) A Colorado Springs number  719-520-1700
  >       2) A Denver number            303-756-2656
  >       3) Telnet access at cscns.com
  >       4) An 800 number

KD>All methods of access are charged at $3.95 per hour, except the 800
  >service. The 800 service is $8.00 per hour. A minimum charge of $10 is
  >made every month. There is a one-time start-up fee of $35.

KD>To subscribe, please call CNS during working hours via voice at
  >719-592-1240. After Jan 4, you may also subscribe to "Business Link"
  >on-line if you are paying with any major credit card.

KD>CNS cannot guarrantee these rates beyond March, 1992. This is because CNS
  >pays a high price for the CBD information. It is hoped that our very low
  >price attracts enough users to make up the cost. If this is not the case
  >by March, the price must be increased accordingly.

KD>We are anxious to evaluate the interest in this service. If you have
  >interest, comments, or questions please drop me a line.

KD>CNS is a full service Internet provider, offering slip, uucp, and dial-up
  >services to the Internet.

Are you folks interested in rounding out the procurement available
through your system?  I can get you the small procurements (same day
postings) and allow your users to bid on these RFQ's on line...  these
are Department of Defense RFQs.

If you want more info, please respond to mpearl@pes.com.

Michael
---
 * QMPro 1.01 90-0040 * CCITT- Can't Conceive Intelligent Thoughts Today
From: syoung@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Scott Young)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: WildCat/Usenet
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 10:29:22 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

MICHAEL.PEARL@pes.com (MICHAEL PEARL) writes:

- Can someone please let me know if this message gets through?  I'm not
- sure I have it configured properly :)
- 
 
Hi Michael... well it seems to be working like a dream... now if I may 
ask... I noticed that your subject was wildcat/usenet and I am in the 
process of doing the very same thing.  I have waffle 1.65 setup and 
running as a dos hook from the message menu, it seems to work okay so 
far.  I was wondering if you could give me any tips/tricks on the setup 
that you are using.
 
TIA,
        Scott.
---
syoung@ersys.edm.ab.ca

Scott Young              syoung@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: I need Internet Access From Ohio!!!
Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:54:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


If somebody could help me here, I'll give them my house :)
	I have usenet access through the cleveland free-net here, but I
want access to log on internet bbs's and downloading access. International
IRC would be cool too. Please help me. I don't mind paying a little fee,
but nothing outrageous. PLEASE e-mail me with some help!!

-Mike
-- 
Bodybuilders and Volleyball Players Will Rule The World

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: eddys@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Steve Eddy )
Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 11:32:15 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover) writes:
: In article <Bzn0n0.48x@citrus.SAC.CA.US> eddys@citrus.SAC.CA.US (
: Steve Eddy ) quotes from the letter section of Boardwatch, 1992 Dec.
: ...
: Some text saying as how Unix is unsuitable to typical BBS
: operations, e.g. the uploading and downloading of files.
: 
: Interesting, but wide of the mark.
: 
: Neither Unix, in general, nor Intel 80x86 architecture is
: suitable for this type of transaction.  This is not to say it
: cannot be done, nor to say that things haven't improved in the
: last couple of years (mostly, IMHO, from the throwing of faster
: clocks at the problem, rather than basic redesign).
: 
: But if one is really interested in the moving of data, then one
: should investigate hardware and operating systems that address
: this problem, not the problems of user friendliness, nice
: comfortable environment for applications or systems programmers,
: and so on.
: 
: I agree, though, that such machines are not easily installed on a
: hobbyist's desktop in a back room somewhere.
: 

   Well my primary experience is with a local 16-line TBBS board running
14.4k modems on all 16 lines. Even with all lines full of callers
downloading files (though I cannot attest to all those lines transferring at
high speed) I have experienced no degradation in performance nor have I
heard of anyone complaining of less-than-optimal CPS rates. I suppose my
reactions to all this stem from the comments made by a few here that anyone
wanting a multiline BBS would be a fool to use anything less than a
Unix-based system. While I would never go so far as to say that TBBS is
ideal under all curcumstances, I do think that it is perfectly adequate and
cost-effective in many situations, especially for-profit information
services.

se


   
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