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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Rename Hyderabad and Murshidabad..(Muslims and India)
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:26:55 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <73556@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7242a@prism.gatech.EDU (KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:


>       See what I mean?  Why?  What is wrong with Islam as a system?  

        Nothing. But a big majority of Indians would prefer the current
        Indian constitution instead.

>       Of course, I am not suggesting that every one in India should become 
>       a Muslim, or that Indian Muslims should start an armed revolt against `
>       the Indian government, but Indian Muslims have just as much a right to 
>       promote their ideals as you do.  


   Sure. They have the right to propagate their ideals. But if these
   ideals demand that India be partitioned and its integrity destroyed
   then out of the natural sense of self preservation India will try
   its best to defeat these ideals.


>       Why should Indian Muslims 
>       accept your idea of an identity which is grounded in "common and 
>       share" history and heritage?  Why can Indian Muslims not share an 
>       identity with all the other Muslims of the world according to the
>       commandments of their religion, which establishes fraternity
>       between all Muslims?

You are free to share and enjoy anything with anybody in the world, but
if that means a harm to Indian nation, state, and country, and to its
integrity, then you should be ready to face the retaliatory steps from
those who wouldn't want India partitioned every time a neighbourhood
in India becomes Muslim majority.

>       Does your statement have anything to do with your chauvanistic 
>       suggestion that Islam is alien to India.  

Islam sure did come to India from outside, as did many other philosophies,
arts, sciences, fruits, vegetables, and recipes. They became a part of
everything that was Indian. Islam is welcome too, but not in a way in which
everything else is discarded and Islam alone embraced by the Indians.
India is not going to give up its richness of heritage for a single new
idea from outside.



---raj
From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Phone calls to India..
Date: 7 Nov 1992 21:48:31 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov7.140725.60480@cc.usu.edu>, slt4f@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> Could anyone please tell me the cheapest deal for making calls to
|> India ??? I am really desperate ..
|> ANy illegal means would also do..
|> Reply to slt4f@cc.usu.edu


	hey! vikas, someone is misusing your account to get info
	about illegal activities!!!!!!!!

	he actually managed to (or maybe the system did!) to even
	remove your name info from the post. luckily finger works!!


	My Prompt> finger slt4f@cc.usu.edu
	[cc.usu.edu]
	SLT4F    Agnihotri Vikas Vas SLT4F not logged in
	Last login Sat 7-Nov-92 1:08PM-MST

	[No plan]


	peace,

	- ravi


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Election Predictions Revisited
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:48:38 GMT

In article <1dci1qINNat2@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:
>		Election Predictions Revisited
>
>  As you know, the final figures were:
>
>Clinton 370, Bush 168, Perot 0
>
>Satya Prabhakar had it 408-132
>Someone else said that Clinton would narrowly defeat Perot
>Zakir Abdi had nothing to say
>Yours truly had it 376-162
>
>See you in Las Vegas
>

I hoped Clinton would take Florida. I think Srinivas Sunder came
closer to the actuals than any of us. He should take up the
profession of being a pollster :-)

Satya Prabhakar

p.s. I am happy I trounced the fella who said Perot would get 120.
     Smelled the coffee yet, pal? :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa
From: css@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (charanjit.s.bhatia)
Subject: Transfer of residence, info about Chand International 
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:45:57 GMT
Keywords: TR, transfer of residence

 I am looking  for any information on Chand International, who frequently
 advertize in Indian newspaper. They provide shipping  handling service
 for Transfer of residence.

 Has anyone heard/experienced any good or bad things about them ?
 Any other shipping agents who provide similar services ?

 Pl send me e-mail. Any info will be appreciated.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Correction on a factual error
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:59:43 GMT

Mani Varadarajan correctly pointed out that Ramanuja was born 
in Sri Perumbudur. Unfortunately I cannot locate where in my refernces
I read his birth place as Tirupathi. However I could check out the varacity
of Mani Varadarajan from Dr. Radahakruishnan's account of Ramanuja's life.

I am extremely sorry for this factual error in my notes. Selvakumar
can rightlyclaim that Ramanuja is a Tamilan, if he is hell bent on that.

Incidentally Sriperumbudur is about 30 miles form Chittor and only
a few miles from the broder of AP. Still it is Tamil...kt

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36725 soc.culture.indian.telugu:980
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: PITAji :)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:41:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

The FAFDA fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:

>	heh heh :) The first sign of frustration is when you start twisting
>	names :). Did'nt like the PITA title, eh? :)

i really thought i was guilty of calling people names when i called
you fafat. if i remember right even the pindari called you FAFDA.

>	Definitely frustrated :). Try not to extrapolate from what you see
>	(or fail to see) in your mirror :)
>	as Ravi waould say, you are belcoome to your opinion, for all I care :)
>	And coming from a PITA, too. Ha ha ! :)


but i don't think ravi would like a FAFDA like you to begin each line
with a '\t'.


suresh
From: dyons@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (nilotpal.mitra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Software companies in Bangalore
Keywords: software, telecommunications, data processing
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:08:51 GMT
Organization: AT&T


Could someone please give me a list of all the software companies
or telecommunication/data processing centers (including, and particularly,
foreign-owned companies) located in Bangalore?

If there are sufficient responses, I will post a summary.

Thank you,

Nilo Mitra
att!arch2!dyons
From: patel@key.amdahl.com (Chandresh Patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Gifs
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:36:38 GMT
Reply-To: patel@key.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced System Division

In article 1df6hlINNf4k@bigboote.WPI.EDU, sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:

> if anyone of you has any gif files please post them. i just learnt to
> see pictures on my computer. i like pictures very much you know.

This is not the newsgroup to post any kind of gifs. There are other newsgroups
for proper posting.

> post as many as you can on this group so that i can see a lot of them.

Subscribe/post to alt.pictures.xxxxxxxx


> suresh

Chandresh Patel
From: v999ryyy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for a suitable bride for a friend.
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

LOOKING FOR A SUITABLE BRIDE FOR MY FRIEND

Hindu match for Kayasth(North Indian), completing Ph.D in Computer Science from
one of the top US universities, 30, permanent resident, expects to obtain US
citizenship by May '93, has been in US for over 6 years, financially secure, has
worked as Systems Analyst for a Fortune 500 Company, Indian values/culture, non-
smoker/drinker, polite and easy going, open on settling in India/USA.

[Looking for a girl from India/USA. She should not be more than 5' 2" tall]


For further information, please send e-mail in confidence to:

V999RYYY@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU

Rajiv
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: murthy@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy)
Subject: Re: Nimmococcus sreeharisaurus (was Re:Indian Tits)
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:28:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.144953.28578@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>In article <1dvkiiINN4or@phad.hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
[deleted]

Could all parties please move all this to either e-mail or alt.flame?

Thank you.


-- 
Vasudev Murthy             Any opinions expressed are strictly  
murthy@asl.dl.nec.com      my own  and have nothing to do with
(214) 518-5031             Advanced Switching Lab, NEC America, Inc.
1525 Walnut Hill Lane Irving TX 75038
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian Tits
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:36:46 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
|> 
|> While your dog days on SCI may be over and it remains for your systems admin. 
|> to haul you off the net by your dog collar for leading a dog's life and coming
|> out the loser in several acerbic verbal dog fights.

	nice post. could you please complete the above sentence?

	thank you,

	- ravi

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From: garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: re:Khalistan
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 22:48:23 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

 
  If 'some' of you Hindus think that you can scare me by uttering 
death threats and derogatory remarks in Email, think again; that only 
further infuriates me!  Leave your replies on the net, and not in 
Email.  From the composition of the authors replies in email, they 
sound like they are FOB (fresh of the boat) "all u sikhs fighting for 
kalistan are bullshet" <-- I see some potential for a future English 
major :^).  I suppose with a vocabulary like that would stop me from
posting on the net in the fear of humiliation to.  If this continues 
to be a nuisance, then i'll just forward the Internet email along 
with the Internet mail route maps (to prove they weren't doctored) 
to the admin of the sites.
                            

Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: LUDICROUS POSTINGS
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:29:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.223647.5187@schbbs.mot.com>, "I am sooo Confused" 
C11810@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Manisha Patel) writes:


> ------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
> Path: schbbs!mothost!ftpbox!uunet!noc.near.net!hri.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.colu
> From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
> Subject: Honey Patel
> Message-ID: <1dpt7iINNjjn@aludra.usc.edu>
> Date: 11 Nov 92 03:04:18 GMT
> Sender: fafat@aludra.usc.edu
> Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
> Lines: 20
> NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
> 
> From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
> Honey FFT,
> You are absolutely wrong about me and "Cobra" ????
>                                              ^^^^^^^
> 
> 	Shows how totally lost you are.
> 
> 	
> And regarding "Honey" .... you have gone to far .... Any way it is
> nice to know that poor "stay cool" is involved in Gay Movement ;-)
> -vibgyor the Pindari.
> 
> 
> 	They never taught you straight thinking, did they? And someone of your
> credentials swiping at Icarus is toooooo hilarious :). You're lucky he's busy.
> Also, the timing of your response sucks. Did'nt you wait to make sure that
> Icarus was'nt around before you pulled one on him? That *would* suit your
> general temperament.
> 
> ***********************************************************************
> 
> WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU YOU GUYS WRITING ABOUT?????  I AM TRYING TO
> FOLLOW YOUR ARTICLES AND I AM TOTALLY LOST.  BY THE WAY WHO IS
> "COBRA"???????
> ***********************************************************************


	Hey, don't try to "follow" those articles, just "follow-up" :-)

	As far as my knowledge goes, "Cobra" is a kind of "snake" <no offense
	intended to anyone named Cobra ;-) >.

	Please do not lose your sanity to the postings on SCI.....it's not
	worth it.

	Finally, turn off the "caps-lock" otherwise you *might* become a part
	of these "ludicrous postings" :-) :-)


		Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeers,

			rAjAt.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: About contribution of Dravidian to Indian culture
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:27:40 GMT

In <BxM56x.2qq@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:

>In article <BxM031.Jp2@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan) writes:
>>Unfortunately, if the word Tamil bother's you, read the whole text,
>>after globally replacing it with the word 'pre-historic Telugu'.
>>It might sound more acceptable. Or get your Tamil allergy cured.


>Wow! I never knew that Tamil can cause allergies. Is there a 
>vaccination for that! Or shall we say, acquire a bit of Tamil
>patriotism, will it go away? Or should I become another dravidian
>racist to cure my Tamil allergy? Hmm! I never knew that Tamil is
>decease bearing. Keep up your patriotism!
>...kt
>>
>>K. Srinivasan

   This answer of kuram shows how many facts he uses for his answers.

KK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani)
Subject: Re: Cawnpore, Nagpore, Singapore !
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:43:58 GMT

In article <atulpule.720897371@cunews>, atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:
|> 
|> trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) writes on
|> Subject: Re: Allahabad
|> ##
|> ##g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
|> ##
|> ## > Is it Allahabad or Ilahabad?
|> ##
|> ##It is pronounced Ilahabad, and so written in Hindi (and possibly
|> ##other phonetic scripts of India).
|> ##
|> ##Allahabad is the anglicized version.
|> ##
|> ##Another one is Lucknow (local pronunciation: Lakhnau).
|> ##
|> ##Similarly, Kanpur used to be written Cawnpore, but that got
|> ##changed a while ago.
|> ##
|> ##Of course, we can hardly forget Delhi for Dilli. :-)
|> ##
|> ##-----
|> ##
|> 
|> What surprised me most was to find out that Singapore is really Simhapur 
|> (the city of lions). They even have a statue of a lion (the merlion) 
|> "guarding" the city at the mouth of the river, overlooking the ocean !
|> 
|> Lord Raffles (the guy who "founded" :-> Singapore) could not pronounce
|> it right and hence gave it its present name ! 
|> 
|> Ajit.
|> 
|> -----------------------------------------------
|> Ajit Tulpule
|> 
|> School of Business
|> Carleton University
|> Ottawa, Ontario
|> Canada K1S 5B6
|> 
|> email : atulpule@business.carleton.ca
|> -----------------------------------------------
|> 

I believe if I remember my history lessons, Singapore is
an Anglicized name of the Malay name Singapura. In malay,
Singapura means the lion city. I am not totally aware of
the origins of the Malay language but the Malay pronounciation
today is slightly different than about 175 years ago.
-- 

Tarun Kripalani (of Permanent Wounded Knee )
e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca
Dept. of Psychology, Queen's University,
Kingston, Ontario.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rairan@ecf.toronto.edu (RAI Ranjan)
Subject: Re: Clinton's victory-in the Indian context.
Keywords: Clinton's victory-in the Indian context
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:55:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.181906.7185@athena.cs.uga.edu> jsahasi@aisun2.ai.uga.edu (Jayesh Sahasi [MSAI]) writes:

>I think there will be a change, unfortunately, it might not be as positive
>as we might want.  Billly boy is said to be tough on "Human Rights" abuses,
>and lately, India has received negative publicity regarding that subject.
>Let's hope Al Gore can persuade him to go easy.

  President elect Bill Clinton does not have a foreign policy to speak of.  
His toughness with "Human Rights abuses" was most likely election rhetoric,
and even if it was not, I do not see why India should be worried if he is
a staunch supporter of human rights.
 
>Unfortunately, Stephen Solarz no longer runs the foreign relations commitee..,
>he was pretty influential in India's favor.  And there are a lot of anti-india
>congressmen around.."What did India ever export but disease?"--a recent quote.

  The quote you refer to was made by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (NY), 
former American ambassador to India.  His quote was:  "What does India export
but communicable disease? "  By the way, Sen. Moynihan said this about 15
years ago. 
  A more recent statement from this fellow was during the summer on CNN's
Crossfire when he said India should be divided into 5 separate countries.
I assume he meant Kashmir, Punjab, Assam, North India, and South India.  He
also felt that, at the very least, independece for Kashmir should be a policy
objective of the U.S.
  I would also like to point out that Sen. Moynihan is a Democrat.

>But then, it really can't be that much worse than an administration that fed 
>the indo-pak cold-war...(esp. the PAK part). SO KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!

  I am not exactly sure what administration you are refering to, but the 
FACTS are that President Bush was in the process of radically  transforming
the Indo-American relationship:  Cutting of aid to Pakistan, opposing the 
Pakistanii involvement in Kashmir and Punjab, hindering the Pakistanii attempt
to develop a nuclear device, better ties between the US and Indian militaries,
etc, etc.
  In my opinion George Bush is a foreign policy genius, and I do not use 
that term loosely.  India's best interests would have been served if Bush won
a second term.  This notion that most Indians in this part of the world have
that it is the Democrats who are the "friends" of India and the Republicans
who are India's "enemies" is pure fiction. 
  My "HOPE" is that Clinton does not screw up the foreign policy initatives 
started by Bush.

-- 
Ranjan Rai                             <rairan@ecf.toronto.edu> 
Engineering Science 9T3                <rairan@eecg.toronto.edu>
University of Toronto
From: kapoor@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (anil.k.kapoor)
Subject: Citizen sponsoring wife for GC followup
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:42:41 GMT

Thanks to all those who responded to the question. I believe the proper
form to apply for the spouse's Green card is I485.
Does anyone have any experience in the processing of this application
at the INS Consulate in Delhi and specifically how long it takes for the
interview call?
Please reply to Vijay Maheshwari at the following address:
vm@aloft.att.com.
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------
Anil K. Kapoor                          kapoor@cbnewsm.att.com
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: INDIAN CULTURE - Subservient
Summary: INDIAN CULTURE - Subservient
Keywords: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 01:02:14 GMT

If culture is 'intellectual development' or 'rearing' within a
society - our society is an excellent example of one of the
greatest subservient cultures. An example of what a culture does
not want to evolve into.

On the net we read a lot about how great our culture WAS. But the
reality, over the past 1000 years, is that our culture has
declined to that of subservience.

We keep trying to fool ourselves about how great a nation ours
is. We keep trying to fool ourselves about our 'cultural
heritage' and the lack of it in 'younger countries' (like the
U.S.) - I would rather have the 'human rights', pride and the
wealth of an American than the subservient culture of India. 

Our cultural heritage is one of subservience and radical racism.
A culture not fit for animals of lesser intellectual capacities.

Even today we fight and strive hard to break away from each
other. We fight for 100 different 'Indias'. A fight that will
only lead to another 1000 years of subservience. M. Ghandhi was
only scratching the surface with his fight to instill pride among
our  people. But we never seem to learn. 

How does one change the mentality of a nation?

We only live in the cesspool we create.

John Ainikkal
I think - Therefore I am.
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:33:27 GMT

trivedi@curie.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) writes:

>dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:

> > Glad to see that even die-hard Indians realise that Kashmir and India
> > are two distinct entities. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 

>Only a damn fool will fail to realize that India as an entity is indeed
>different from Kashmir, or UP, or Ganges, or my grandfather's house; it
>*contains* all of those smaller entities! Nothing wrong with a little
>smart-aleckiness, but first borrow some intelligence from somewhere. I
>will raise you one smiley though: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

>-----

Oooh. Being nasty. :-)
Ok. Well let me just say then that India will not *contain*
that portion of Kashmir which it is presently occupying for 
very much longer. :-)
The original poster that I responded to seemed to have made
the mental separation already. I guess that it is now just
a matter of making the physical separation. :-)

-hd
It's the end of the world as we know it
and I feel fine 
:-) :-) :-) (three more smileys just to ensure that we 
             retain a comparable level of humor)