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From: nicholas@wam.umd.edu (Ronnie Simonds)
Subject: Good news for Alladin-the-hunk admirers...
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:55:55 GMT

... according to people working on the Disney Afternoon series, Alladin
will NOT be married to Jasmine, so he's still available. :)

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Cheap Animation
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 12:11:47 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

 Refering to the notion of 'what if Bluth had made beauty and the beast as 
he promised when he left Disney'...
 

Ill tell you what...  It would have been based on the story but all the
would be annoying mice.  (I hate the Bluth formula).  The Beast would probably
have been called, 'The Great Cat'.

I have to say that the only Bluth film that I enjoyed was Fivel Goes West (the
only bad part in that movie is the little mouse I would like to see dead, Fivel
.  Rock-a-Doodle was actually pretty good, but I really hated the 6-7 year old
kid talking like a damn baby... I can understand him talking like a normal
kid his age but he was talking like a baby (to make the kitten he turned into
(via animation) seem cuter)... I also thought that the live/action animation
mixture of Rock-a-Doodle was quite horrable.  Song of the South and other
earlier Disney animation was much more believable.
 
Brad

Oh, one other thing... If Don Bluth did Beauty and the Beast, Burt Renolds
would have to be the voice for The Beast (or The Great Cat) and Loni Anderson
would have to play Beauty, and Don Deluise would most certainly play Burt
Renolds side-kick.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Questions about "Babes in Toyland"
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:10:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.154151.580@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
jleitzel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James W Leitzel) writes:
> 
> 	So here are the questions....
> 
> 	1). What other movies/roles has Ed Wynn done?

   Off the top of my head - he was in Mary Poppins.
> 
> 			And
> 
> 	2). Is the actor who plays Barnaby, the same Ray Bolger who was in
> 	    "The Wizard of Oz"? (I think as The Cowardly Lion)
> 
   I haven't seen Disney's Babes in Toyland, but as there can
   be only one Ray Bolger in the Screen Actors Guild, I would
   assume it's the same Ray Bolger as in Wiz. of Oz.

   BTW, Ray Bolger was the Scarecrow.  Bert Lahr was the Cowardly Lion.

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From: dougd@fc.hp.com (Doug Drees)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The seven dwarves
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:32:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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Douglas Holyoak (holyoak@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu) wrote:
: Okay, I'm stuck.  What are the names of the seven dwarves from Snow White?
: 
: I seem to recall that some were named Dopey, Grumpy, Sneezy, and Sleepy. 
: Am I correct so far?  Whom am I forgetting?

Doc, Bashful, & Happy

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From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Where the Wild Things Are
Date: 30 Dec 92 12:07:54 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <lis.725479709@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
> A long time ago, on the Disney channel, I saw a short on the making of
> Maurice Sendak's "Where teh Wild Things Are."  This was to be a new
> version, entirely computer animated, to be produced by Disney.  I have
> never seen or heard anything else on this film.  
> 
> Now, in the making of Aladdin, there's a brief reference to Glen
> Keane's work on this in 1983.  
> 
> Has anyone seen this film?  How is it?  And, most importantly,
> where can _I_ see it or purchase it??
> 
> Thanks.
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Well, I have seen the film you speak about.

I'm sorry to say that to my knowledge it has never been shown in theatres,
nor has it ever been available on videotape/laserdisk.

I thought the film was interesting.  But I cannot remember it so clearly,
as I had watched it on The Disney Channel as part of a program shown
a number of years (say around 1984/1985) called BEYOND TRON.

The film is rather short.  Say 10 minutes, maybe.  Perhaps shorter than
that, I can't recall.  The entire backgrounds are done by computer, but
I believe the child was done by hand animation.

I thought it was a very interesting film at the time.  But I wish I could
see it again as well.


John Heiden
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From: f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Is even the word Post Freudian?
Date: 22 Dec 92 07:04:20 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>but you can't forget my personal favorite symbol from the little
>>mermaid... eric's flute.  at the beginning, he's talking about how
>>the "right woman" hasn't come along [no pun intended], so he's left
>>there just "playing his own flute."  then, at his place, he walking
>>along feeling depressed, again playing his own flute.  then he decides
>>to start things up with ariel, so he no longer needs to "toot his own
>>horn," so he throws the flute into the water.
>
>OK - time for another split in rec.arts.disney.  New group name:
>rec.arts.disney.little.mermaid.stupid.freudian.references
>
>Anyone else surprised at some people's ingenuity in reading all sorts of
>s**t into a children's film?
>
>Tim Pickett
>
Hey, it's not hard to do at all.  I mean, just from those 2 liens you posted,
it's clear that you have fantasies about the bathroom habits of childrens, and
you find it ingenious...

;)

In serious answer to your question:  Yes.  Try being an English major.  It
gets worse.  However, you also find that some of the time, it's quite real.
NOT, however, that I beleive for a minute ANY of the theories posted so far
about TLM.  TLM, tho I love it as one of my top 3 fave Disney movies, is not
in the same class with, for example, Shakespeare.  Who, in fact, never
bothered to "hide" his sexual references very deeply...  :)

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From: pabakke@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Peter Bakke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Roger Rabbit
Keywords: Toontown
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:20:17 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

They are currently working on a new (number 3) Baby Herman/Roger
Rabbit cartoon at Disney/MGM Studios. It's 6 minutes long and I
don't remember when it's due out.
From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Hiawatha new Disney Movie?
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:46:38 GMT
Organization: Hog's Breath is Better than No Breath at All.

In article <1h78thINN24p@network.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.023158.3525@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>>
>>I thought Disney had already *done* "Hiawatha" as a short.  Anyone?
>
>They sure have!  It is a very well-animated Silly Symphony with
>animals that look like the ones in Snow White.  

I can't believe I forgot that...the front window of our Disney Store 
(Lenox Square) is Hiawatha!  We have a great window.  Especially during
Xmas, when they put a tree in the window with jalepena pepper lights on 
it.  I can't tell you HOW many people come in and ask about those lights
or if we sell the beads and headdresses on Mickey and Minnie...

Scott
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From: Damon.Burke@p12.f118.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Damon Burke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The seven dwarves
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 23:34:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/118.12 - PowerNet, Altamonte Springs FL

On 12-23-92, Douglas Holyoak Lied To All About The Following:
 :> From: holyoak@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Douglas Holyoak)
 :> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:31:44 GMT
 :> Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
 :> Message-ID: <1992Dec23.143144.15943@ils.nwu.edu>
 :> Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney

 :> Okay, I'm stuck.  What are the names of the seven dwarves
 :> from Snow White?

 :> I seem to recall that some were named Dopey, Grumpy, Sneezy,
 :> and Sleepy.
 :> Am I correct so far?  Whom am I forgetting?


sleazy...


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From: mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Disney stock
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:38:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.162236.12031@news.ysu.edu> ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl
Landis) writes:
>
>Could anyone tell me how Disney stock has done in the last
>1, 5, 10 years?  Some one said they had some problems this
>year.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Carl
>-- 

Problems this year ? Hardly. It split 4 for 1 earlier in the year.
I bought a bunch at about $36/share  a few months ago and
it is hovering around $45/share right now (hmmm, 20%+ in
3 months, pretty good).

No telling what will happen in '93, but I think it was excellent
in '92.
From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Happy Holiday from Stan
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:31:13 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

I just wanted to wish everyone out there a Happy Holiday.

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From: hhg1@gte.com (Hal German)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Winnie the Pooh Xmas Special
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:45:21 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Organization: GTE Laboratories Inc

Although the Pooh cartoon was good. I was ticked off it was followed
by a half "infotrailer" on Aladdin and the Muppet Movie. Nothing like
instilling those family value$.
From: kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Tuff Hedelman fan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Saturday Morning Cartoon Quiz
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:27:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.1h8favINNsqq
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

Actually, I think "Tigger's" name is spelled a variety of ways on the show.
Tigr, Tigger, Tyger, etc.(for example on his home mailbox. not spelled Tigger).
 

   I know that Winnie the Pooh was a feature by Disney, but is the Saturday 
morning cartoon done by them also? When the credits are shown at the end, it
isn't done in its usual "Disney style".. I think it is done by King World or 
something. Anyone know anything about this? 

kevin
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Aladdin...
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:40:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdcc13.ucsd.edu

In article <athos-301292011330@kip2-50.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>
>1) I was happy with the movie up until Aladdin refused to honor his promise
>to free the Genie.  What an ass.  He then just looked STUPID to me.

There wasn't a strong sense of learning a lesson at the end.  Aladdin
gets rich and presumably "never [has] to worry about anything."  The
Sultan decides to change the marriage laws all of a sudden (he was
more than reluctant earlier), a la Triton in The Little Mermaid.

>2) I was laughing at Robin Williams, but wonder if 20 years from now the
>references will be understood.  I doubt it.

I'm pretty sure that most of the references, especially the Disney
references, will remain valid for 20 or 30 years at the very least.
The ones in Warner Brothers' Looney Tunes are mostly recognizable
(to me, anyway) and some of them are 40+ years old.

>3) Can we get a woman who doesn't look like Belle/Ariel/EveryOtherWoman?

They've got different hair, eyes, noses :^), mouths (well,
Ariel's is different), and even skull shapes.  That seems to be
quite a bit of variation.  On the other hand, I can't see much
difference between the various human fashion models on TV and such--
ones of the same race, that is.  It is funny, though, how the "Disney
women" do tend to look somewhat alike.

While I'm at it, here are a few of the many, shall we say, similarities
between Aladdin and The Little Mermaid films:

1.  The princess's father stands in the way of her love life.
2.  After that, as I've mentioned above, her father has a change of
heart.
3.  The evil villain attempts to steal the throne by using the
princess.  Jafar tries to marry Jasmine just like Ursula tries to
marry Eric, although the circumstances were different.
4.  Aladdin takes Jasmine on a tour of the world, just Eric like took
Ariel on a tour of his kingdom.
5.  In the battle near the end of Aladdin, Jafar boasts about all
the power he's just received, and swells to an enormous size to toy
with the heros.
6.  Ron Clements and John Musker as writers and directors.

It's not that the plot of Aladdin is flawed, but I think that most
of us have seen it somewhere before. ;-)


- Robert Cook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:36:44 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: Just Saw Aladdin...
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: 

(Name withheld to protect the innocent) writes:
>In all three of the latest Disney animated films (Little Mermaid, BaTB,
>and Aladdin) my question is 'Where are the mothers?' 

Actually, in *one* of the three latest Disney animated films (Rescuers
Down Under, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin, there is a mother, but in
all three there is only one parent:

	RDU: Cody's mother
	B&B: Belle's father
	Aladdin: Jasmine's father

;^)

Geoff ``Reminding folks that there was a movie between The Little
        Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast'' Allen

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From: jmm@scarabz.Corp.Sun.COM (John Morrison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Mrs Potts - from BtB
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:08:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: jmm@scarabz.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: scarabz.corp.sun.com


     Does anyone know if Disney is releasing anything other than the 
combination tea pot and music box Mrs Potts??  The local Disney store 
has it for about $70.  My wife is putting polite but steady pressure
on me to get her this.


Thanks


John Morrison
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: rdutt@mksol.dseg.ti.com (richard f. dutt)
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:35:32 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Keywords:


>Hmmm, I wonder about the source...
>
>>Pinocchio comes out on video on March 26th
>
>Correct, score one for Suncoast.
>
>>Sleeping Beauty returns to theaters in the spring of 1993
>
>BZZZZZZZT!  Wrong answer.  We were told that Sleeping Beauty has 
>been indefinitely delayed.
>
>>Sleeping Beauty comes out on video at Christmas
>
>Well, if it won't be out on film this spring, then it won't be out 
>on tape at Xmas...
>
>>Aladdin comes out on video in the summer
>
>Can't tell ya, don't know, but I doubt it will be this soon.  Look
>more to Xmas 1993.  
>
>Scott

My source is fine it's the timing of the information.  I was told this
about a month and a half ago and posted before I read the change of
plansu today.  I would imagine that Aladdin WOULD now be coming out a
Christmas of 1993.

BTW, Was that a friendly "Disney Store" buzz or an acidic "Family
Fued" buzz, Scott?  Either way you get a big kiss from Richard
Dawson (ex-FF host) for your "good answer".   :)

-Rich
From: kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Tuff Hedelman fan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey Flicks and Shorts- Post Walt
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:47:54 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

All I know (which may not be of much help to the information you seek) is 
that Mickey's last Cameo apperance was on Who Framed Roger Rabbit. 

And hey, no "Mickey's Christmas Carol" on TV this year. I am very sad about 
this. Not on network tv or even the Disney Channel, *cry*.. I've seen it 
before, but so what.. i want to see it again!! Hmm.. when was Christmas Carol
done anyways? 

kevin
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Magic Kingdom Club Card
Distribution: world
Date: 29 Dec 92 07:09:21 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

On 23-Dec-92 Michael Johnston said to All on the Fidonet Disney echo:
 
 MJ> The article from the NY Times several months ago has been confirmed.
 MJ> The MKC card, now a shareholder benefit, is being discontinued next
 MJ> year. MKC cards will cost $39 ($10 off) for two years and you'll get
 MJ> a gold card.
 
 MJ> Most of us are not happy with this and a letter-writing campaign may
 MJ> be organized.  More later.

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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: mickey flicks and sho
Date: 22 Dec 92 07:06:13 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

ALP>A friend of mine was wondering whether Mickey Mouse appeared in any shorts o
ALP>movies after Walt Disney's death.  I am almost positive he has, but I couldn
ALP>recall which ones.  Could someone please post a list for me?  Thanks.

After Walt's death, Mickey appeared in MICKEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL and
THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER, plus a disappointing live-action/animation
hybrid (a la ROGER RABBIT) prime-time TV special aired to coincide
with the 50th anniversary of FANTASIA.  He's probably made other
appearances as well, though I don't know them off the top of my
head.
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From: DPM%MRGPRE%Health_Net@mcimail.com (DPM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: "The E-Ticket"  Winter 1992-93
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:39:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The new issue of "The E Ticket" is out.  It includes an interview with Harper
Goff, an article on the "Adventure Thru Inner Space", and a cover story on
Disneyland's Main Street U.S.A.
VMSmail To information: @DIS$:DISNEY
Sender's personal name: snopes
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Working at EPCOT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:44:43 GMT

>To work in one of the EPCOT pavillions for one of the countries, you must speak that language fluently.  Some of the cast members that already work at the pavillions are transferred from those respective countries, whatever they may be.  If you are interested in working for Disney, I suggest you contact the casting office located in Orlando. I don't know the number off hand, but you can get by talking to one of their operators at 1-407-wdisney.

The last time I went to EPCOT I ate dinner at the Moroccan restaurant and
had a neat conversation with the waiter and busboy.  Both were hotel/
restaurant management students from Morocco over in the states for a year
as an 'internship'.  Basically it's a very clever setup by Disney to staff
the parks with authentic country members while getting workers for next to
nothing.  When the work visa's up, they're back home.  I wonder if americans
can even get jobs in some of the pavillions now, considering the appeal of
people that are more 'authentic'.  Good luck!

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (jodi.weber)
Subject: Disney Cartoons Film Festival in NY
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:24:38 GMT

For those interested who will be in the New York area between now and Jan. 3,
this is reprinted from the 12/22/92 Wall St. Journal, "A" section:

FILM

Astoria, NY (that's in Queens)
"Disney in Wonderland: The Silent Cartoons of Walt Disney"

Studio prints of some 50 rare cartoons made by Walt Disney and his studio
before fame and fortune came with the creation of Mickey Mouse in the
late 1920s.  The cartoons are grouped into intriguing categories, including:
"Battles and Wars," "Scary Tales and Adventures" and "Teacher and Truant,"
the latter including Disney's "Puss and Boots" (1922) and something called
"Alice Gets In Dutch" (1924).  A few early talkies will be screened as well.

At the American Museum of the Moving Image:  35 Ave. at 36 St.  Through 
Jan. 3. For General Information, (718) 784-0077; for travel directions,
(718) 784-4777.

(End reprint)




Jodi Weber
jodiweber@attmail.com   or   jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jworley@gold.KPC.Com (John Worley - Consultant)
Subject: Disney movie scores
Reply-To: jworley@gold.KPC.Com (John Worley - Consultant)
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:13:04 GMT

    Does anyone know how/where to get scores for the recent Disney animated
films (Mermaid, B&tB, Aladdin)? I'm not talking about the "easy-chord" song
books - I want the full orchestral scores. Please respond by e-mail; I'll
summarize if there is interest.

					Thanks,
					John Worley
					jworley@kpc.com