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From: craa13@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: Croquet Anyone ??
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:55:17 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <Bx5wop.Gru@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
> In article <10050004@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> darwin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Darwin Devore) writes:
>>
>>WANTED:  Address and/or Telephone # for Croquet Club/Association 
>>for Christmas.
>>
> 
> Better hope she doesn't read the News! :) :) :)
> 
> You should be able to find a croquet set at a large sports store
> (one that has a lot of outdoor and lifetime sports).  
> 

I didn't see the original posting and it's disappeared from my news
server so I may not be addressing the question that was asked.

However, for information, the United States Croquet Association is
based at 500, Avenue of Champions, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 33418
Tel 407 627 3999 Fax 407 624 3128. They will be able to give you a
list of nearby Croquet clubs. There are several hundreds (thousands?)
of clubs in the USA. 

The USCA will also be able to advise you (or even sell you!) suitable
equipment but it may not be cheap - in the past they have dealt mainly
with competition standard equipment, but I believe they have recently
been addressing the needs of more ordinary folk so their prices may
have come down to reasonable levels now.

On a larger scale the World Croquet Federation has input from several
countries including Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan, Italy,
France, England and, of course, Scotland. Each of these has it's own
national association - I can give more info (eg contact addresses) to
anyone who is interested.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: CURLING????
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:15:53 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <Bx5wG6.GLI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
> 	Does anyone know anything about curling?  Anything
> 	at all.  Where to go to see it, what are the rules,
> 	any publications/books to look up, etc.

I'm an avid curling fan who curls recreationally when I get the chance. I'll
try to explain the rules:

A team is made up of four players. They are the "skip", or leader of the team,
the "third" or "vice-skip", the "second" and the "lead". Each player throws two
rocks per "end", and there are ten ends in a game. An end is comprised of both
teams throwing all eight of their rocks. 

The teams alternate throwing in an end, with leads throwing first, then
seconds, then thirds, and finally skips. IE, team A's lead, then team B's lead,
then team A's lead again, then team B's lead again, then team A's second, and 
so on. The skip will stand at the opposite end of the ice from where the rocks
are being thrown from and indicate with his broom where he would like the rock
to be thrown to. The principle of curling is to put a slow turn on the rock, so
that as it slows down, it begins to move laterally, or "curl". Which way it
"curls" depends on which way it is turning. A team may sweep their rocks and
their rocks only. Sweeping in front of a rock does three things: first, it
melts a very thin layer of ice, causing the rock to slide smoother and
delaying the natural slowing of the rock due to friction. This may add several
more feet to the distance the rock slides. Second, by delaying the slowing of
the rock, the curl of the rock can be delayed as well. This is advantageous for
precise placement of a rock. And third, it ensures that no debris on the ice
such as broom hairs will foul the sliding of a rock. A tiny broom hair on
the sliding surface can throw a rock completely off course.

The scoring is very simple. The scoring area is comprised of three rings, 
called the "house". The center ring is 4' in diameter, the middle ring is 8',
and the outside ring is 12'. The very middle of the center ring is frequently
called the "button". The object is to have the closest rock to the very center
of the house. The team with the closest rock at the end of an end will score
one point for that rock, plus one more point for every other rock they have 
that is closer than their opponent's closest rock. Only the team with the
closest rock(s) may score in an end. That team must also throw the first rock
in the next end. (The team that throws the first rock in the first end is
determined by a coin toss). 

This is a very basic breakdown of the rules. With this knowledge, you should
be able to watch a game of curling and understand what is happening. There are
more rules, most of them minor. If you would like explanation of some of 
these rules or any in particular, just ask. :-)

I can't help you on where to go to see it. That depends on where you live and 
what leagues exist there, where and when they play, etc....

								Alan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Moskal Fysh)
Subject: Figure Skating group?
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:06:17 GMT

Could someone please let me know if there is a figure skating
newsgroup?  Please e-mail me, as rec.sport.misc seems to be mostly
boxing so I rarely read it.  Thanks.

Stephanie Fysh
(sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca)
From: dvp@getafix (Dave Parry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: HOLYFIELD vs. BOWE
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:38:33 GMT
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berks, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I think Bowe will realise that if the fight goes the distance, then
Holyfield will probably get it - higher workrate, larger number of
scoring punches. Therefore I think Bowe's fight plan will be to try
and take Holyfield out. In the latest (January) edition of K.O., Bowe
acknowledges that stamina and conditioning will be a factor and is
working hard to increase both of these qualities in case the fight
goes into the later rounds. I believe though, that Bowe will have to try to
get Holyfield out of there early and therefore I thnk the fight hinges
on the first 4-5 rounds. If Holyfield is still around after 5 rounds,
then I see him taking the fight either by late stoppage or decision.
Bowe may well start to flounder after 5 rounds if he realises his best
chance has gone and that's why, bottom line, I see Holyfield winning
by stoppage. Round? 8.

Dave

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From: rogoff@netcom.com (Carolyn Rogoff David Rogoff)
Subject: looking for fencing equipment
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:46:33 GMT


Hello,

 I am looking for a used female fencing
chest guard.  Although I am a size 34, I won't mind if it
is a bit bigger! 
	Any suggestions?  Thanks.

Carolyn 
-- 
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  rogoff@netcom.com
    Synthesizers, birds, armour, OS/2 etc.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Oklahoma State punished
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:53:18 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

College wrestling powerhouse Oklahoma State has been punished for
violations dating back to 1985. The Cowboys will not be able to 
participate in post-season competition this season and will get no new
scholarships for this year and next.

Looks like Iowa will be the dominant state in college wrestling this year.

salty

Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Re: HOLYFIELD vs. BOWE
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:19:28 GMT

Last night the weigh-in was rather interesting

Evander weighed an incredible 205
Riddick tipped the scale at 235

I think Holyfields 205 is fantastic and proves that he is
very serious about remaining the Champion

Bowe had to drop from almost 280, I think this shows he does not
want the fight to last longer than 3-4 rounds. His stamina will
be the factor       

The Bowe people think this will be a short fight, and a quick KO
so ... did Bowe really train properly ?  can he go the distance ?

It appears the Duva has Holyfield primed and ready for anything
and there is no question that Bowe will come out swinging
could we see the 1992 version of the "rope-a-dope" ?

I still like Holyfied inside of 7 rounds
"The Real Deal" will remain Champion

chris
-- 

		Mephistopheles ... ruthless, sleepless, unsmiling,
                concentration on self or humorous, civilised, sensible
                and adaptable 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: RE: HOLYFIELD vs. BOWE
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:33:57 GMT

My prediction for the fight is Holyfield by decision. Since he will
most likely be busier during the duration of the fight.  But I will
watch for Bowe to just go for it if he thinks he has Holyfield hurt.
From: sxl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Simon Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: HOLYFIELD vs BOWE - POLL UPDATE
Summary: 25 Nov 1992
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:08:30 GMT
Reply-To: sxl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Simon Lau)
Followup-To: rec.sport.misc
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <BxMq5x.E0L@dcs.ed.ac.uk> sxl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Simon Lau) writes:
>Just received this, why are postings so slow ? Don't answer that :)

>
>OK, that's about 10-4 in favour of Holyfield.
>
>
>Simon
>


Make that 10-5 in favour of Holyfield !

From: "Svendsen, Trygve       7-95" <reds@no.hsr.gribb>

Riddick Bowe, 4th round KO.

TRYGVE SVENDSEN
NORWAY
*****  

Thanks for the reply !

Simon.
From: sxl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Simon Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: HOLYFIELD vs BOWE - POLL UPDATE
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:46:45 GMT
Expires: Wed, 25 Nov 1992 00:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: sxl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Simon Lau)
Followup-To: rec.sport.misc
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

Just received this, why are postings so slow ? Don't answer that :)


From: Greg Noone <gnoone@au.edu.adelaide.maths.spam>

Either an early TKO to Bowe or a hard-fought points win to Holyfield.
OK...I can't have it both ways. I'll choose Holyfield by a narrow points
verdict over 12 tough rounds. As usual, Holyfield will stagger once
or twice during the fight but will remain on his feet and take a gutsy
victory to prove he's the Real Deal....

OK, that's about 10-4 in favour of Holyfield.

Thanks for the reply.

Simon
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: Oklahoma State punished
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:24:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: mccall.1992Nov9.102418
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1deeuuINNndv@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>Looks like Iowa will be the dominant state in college wrestling this year.
>
>salty
>
Don't count out PennSt, OU, or Neb.  Just to name a few.  But it
does look like this gives Iowa, IowaSt and NIowa a big edge.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: BOWE/HOLYFIELD poll
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:23:59 GMT

Whoever did the Ruddock/Lewis poll, please do one for HOLYFIELD/BOWE
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Holyfield -vs- Bowe : countdown
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:18:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.155713.6597@HQ.Ileaf.COM> raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher
raczka) writes:
>We now have one week until this fight takes place
>
>I have noticed that unlike past Holyfield fights, there is not
>much hype
>
>Sure there is that ad ... "Will Bowe be the next Champion or just Next"
>but that is about it
>
>Does anyone know what the odds-makers in Vegas have on this fight ???
>
It is still pretty much even.

>How about predictions, anyone ???

OK Here is mine. Holyfield by decision. Bowe wont be able to hurt him. Bowe
will have trouble hitting him with his "African Jaw Bone" (where did Bowes
manager get that phrase?!?!?!?!) 


>
>
>I will make one, Holyfield will KnockOut Bowe inside Five Rounds
>
>chris
>-- 
>
>		Mephistopheles ... ruthless, sleepless, unsmiling,
>                concentration on self or humorous, civilised, sensible
>                and adaptable 
>



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John R. Cobarruvias, Texas A&M Class of '78, 
NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Tx.
(713)483-9357

"And to think..................I hesitated" (Hellraiser II)
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From: msfuller@cc.utah.edu (MARC S. FULLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Prince Squash Racket Elite
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:43:00 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

This sounds like retail list  price (180 bucks).  You can probably do a lot 
better by some of the mail order companies.  This is an awfully stiff racket.  
If your playing soft ball you might be better off with some of princes less 
expensive (more flexible ) rackets.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Boxing: Holyfield/Bowe Predictions wanted
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:26:51 GMT

OK, I'll volunteer to collect and post the holyfield/bowe predictions for
everyone on the rec.sport.misc group. 

EMAIL to cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov with this type of format:

Your Name (net name, or full name, or whatever)
winner (Holyfield, Bowe, Draw)
How    (Decision, KO, Disq)
When   (name the round if predicting a KO, or in 12 for a decision or DISQ)
Why    (state the reasons you based your predictions on)

For example, here is mine:

John R. Cobarruvias
Holyfield
Decision
in 12
Holyfield has enough, not good, just enough, prime time experience with some
good quality fighters. Bowe is lacking in that area. This is Bowes first MAJOR
fight, Holyfields 4th. Bowe has power, yet he will have a hard time hitting
Evander. Holyfield will work the body slowly, then in the late rounds start
dominating. Bowes chin will keep him on his feet for the duration. Bowe will
start cold and warm up as he overcomes stage fright.




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John R. Cobarruvias, Texas A&M Class of '78, 
NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Tx.
(713)483-9357

"And to think..................I hesitated" (Hellraiser II)
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From: dvp@getafix (Dave Parry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Darren Morris
Date: 7 Nov 92 09:27:41 GMT
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berks, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Back in February, I saw Darren Morris (the US one, not the British one)
fight in Helsinki, billed as the WBF (World Boxing Federation) Middleweight
Champion. He looked a quite fine boxer and stopped a Venezualin in the
8th round (can't remember his name, he was a late substitute). The
interesting thing for me was that Angelo Dundee was in Morris's corner.
Now I know that these days, Angelo tends to get hired on a fight to fight
basis (i.e. Derek Williams against Lennox Lewis), but someone must have
thought that Morris was worth investing in Angelo's services.

Since then, I have seen or heard nothing of him except to notice that he
is rated number 25 at Light Middle by the WBC. Now, we all know that the
alphabet boys are loathe to rate fighters highly (if at all) that are
champions of other organizations and was wondering if Morris's low rating
was due to politics i.e. he being (still?) the WBF Middleweight Champion.

Do any of you out there have any background on Morris and/or details of
any of his fights this year please?

As I said, he looked a really good fighter - lots of skill, good variety
of punches, and I'm curious to know what's become of him.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Regards

Dave

P.S. Highlight of Helsinki trip, Angelo Dundee giving me one of his
business cards with a dedication on it. Now, I only need Muhammad's 
autograph and I can die happy!

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From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Holyfield -vs- Bowe : countdown
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:57:13 GMT

We now have one week until this fight takes place

I have noticed that unlike past Holyfield fights, there is not
much hype

Sure there is that ad ... "Will Bowe be the next Champion or just Next"
but that is about it

Does anyone know what the odds-makers in Vegas have on this fight ???

How about predictions, anyone ???


I will make one, Holyfield will KnockOut Bowe inside Five Rounds

chris
-- 

		Mephistopheles ... ruthless, sleepless, unsmiling,
                concentration on self or humorous, civilised, sensible
                and adaptable
From: barua@plains.NoDak.edu (Soumen Barua)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Boxing
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:03:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxIKxt.I9q
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Hi. I would like to do a little gambling on the upcoming boxing match between
Hollyfield - Bowe. What is he procedure? Is there a phone number or address? 
Any help will appreciated (before November 13th of course!). 
You can send me e-mail or post on the net. Thanks. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: tokuda@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Lee Tokuda)
Subject: Re: Holyfield -vs- Bowe : countdown
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 12:38:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.155713.6597@HQ.Ileaf.COM> raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:
>
>How about predictions, anyone ???
>
>
>I will make one, Holyfield will KnockOut Bowe inside Five Rounds
>
>chris
>-- 

   I'm going to predict a much more difficult fight for Holyfield.
Bowe is big, strong, powerful, and talented.  I'm sure he punches
hard enough to hurt Holyfield.  I'm not so sure that Holyfield can
hurt Bowe (especially early in the fight).  If the fight ends within
five rounds, we will probably have a new heavyweight champion on
our hands.  My far from certain prediction for this fight, however, 
is that Holyfield will outbox Bowe and win a decision.  Should be
a great fight whatever the outcome.

-Lee


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From: rsmith@goose.age.lsu.edu (Rhett Smith)
Subject: Slope???
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1300]: goose.age.lsu.edu
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:15:55 GMT

What is the slope of a cource?  How or where do you find out what the slope
of a cource is?  Please excude this rookie question.
Thanks,
Rhett

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: ewolfe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (eric andrew wolfe)
Subject: Re: Grand Slam at La Quinta
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:35:29 GMT

The greatest thing about the Grand Slam, and formats like this, is
that you get to follow the golfers through their entire round, unlike
the typical network coverage that makes you dizzy jumping back and
forth from golfer to golfer and shot to shot.  What a treat it is to
see those guys play a full round.  Maybe all tournaments should only
have four players.  :-)
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 21:51:23 -0500 
From: Lee Edward Daza <ld2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Balata Balls
	<184173@pyramid.pyramid.com>
Distribution: usa

   I didnt' read the article so I may just be wasting my breath, but I
don't see how pros could mistake a 2-piece for a 3-piece balata. Sure
they may feel similair when hit, but it's how they stick on the greens
that distiguishes them from each other. Did they actually hit these
balls onto a green? Or just hit 'em away at a range?
    I never thought of playing balata for more 'feel', but for more 'stick'.






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From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Subject: Re: Grand Slam at La Quinta
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 23:04:55 GMT

martin@chiton.ucsd.edu (Martin Olivera) writes:

>Did you guys see the 2-day 4-man tournament yesterday and day before yesterday?

I did see it.  Kite and Price were magnificent.  Couples is probably
exhausted.  He played in Scotland, North Carolina and Spain in the three
weeks before.  He has to be extremely jet lagged.   Faldo looked really
uncomfortable.  It seemed to me that his backswing was really short.  He
was never even getting near parallel.  His putting was terrible.  He
probably had 10-15 putts under 15 feet that he missed badly over the two days.

>shots. The announcers were Scully (pretty bad, he kept trying to convince
>every one to watch the movie coming up after the golf broadcast, even at the
>awards ceremony!), John Daly (had a few good comments, but was repetitive. But
>hey! he's no announcer), and on-course Bobby Clampett (fair) who gave details on
>club selection and state of mind of the players. Hope next year the bring better
>ones.

Vinnie was as bad as I've ever heard him.  He couldn't even keep the
players scores straight on the holes.  When Kite made the eagle on 11, he
kept telling us it was a birdie.  When Couples hit it in the water on 18
and chipped up, he was saying his putt was for a par and easily holding on
to third place, when it was for a bogey and if he missed it, he'd have been
tied by Faldo.  I'm sure the movie promos were at the urging of the
director so I won't fault him for that.

Daly was fun in that it was obvious he was in awe of these guys.  He kept
commenting on their shots and how he couldn't do that kind of thing.  One
time on the first day, Kite was on the side hill of a bunker about 120
yards from the hole and hit a soft 7-iron to about 15 feet.  Daly just said
that he couldn't do that and would have had to hit a wedge hard and not have
control.

Clampett was ok.

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