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From: dave@philips.oz.au (David Torr)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 05:32:33 GMT
Organization: Philips Public Telecommunications Systems, Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Re: W4W 2.0: "File too large to save" (bug?)
Keywords: Windows Word File Save Bug
Distribution: world

thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.045846.5736@panix.com> entropy@panix.com (Daniel Gross) writes:
>>There I was, happily editing my nearly 4-Meg file -- lots
>>of OLE embedding, other than that your pretty standard
>>long document with about 25-30 styles (it's a manual).
>>
>>I *cut the file in half*, try to save, and I get
>>"File too large to save. Cut some text and try again."
>>So I quit (losing work of course), copy the file,
>>and try to trim it to 1/3 its original size.
>>"File too large to save." I delete chunks and
>>chunks, and it saves only when I get down to
>>something < 40K. This ain't right.

>Well, I have had this bug but not for a long time. I'm nto sure
>whether it stopped with 2.0a or not.

>Anyway, to get around it I opened up a new version of Word and cut the
>old document into the new one.

>On the other hand, you may have just run out of space through very
>large temp files being created.
>-- 
>    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz  or  thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz
>Datamark Intl Ltd | 
> Technical Writer | I don't need a disclaimer, I live in a sane society.

I have had this problem quite often even though there is _lots_ of spare memory and disk space.

I have always (so far) been able to get out of it using "Save as" and giving the file a different name - of course you need enough disk space to do this and
it gets tedious keeping track of the multiple file copies but it seems to work.

The worst was when it happened on an auto-save - as far as can remember this has only happened once.

I _hope_ 2.0b solves this - any ideas?
-- 
Dave Torr                                   dave@philips.oz.au
Software Development Manager                Tel +61 3 881 3587
Philips Public Telecommunications Systems   Fax +61 3 883 3577
Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect Philips' policy.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: dem21178@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Montroy)
Subject: Re: AfterDark 2.0a quirks with Win 3.1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:09:56 GMT

jim@edscom.demon.co.uk (Jim Thomas) writes:

>Do these problems occur with the After Dark modules that came with
>After Dark itself? I have some After Dark modules by other people
>that are a bit buggy. This inlcudes GP faults. I've never had a problem
>with any of the original ones however.

No, this occurs with the original modules that came with the program.  It 
doesn't seem to happen with all of them, just some of them.

>Jim Thomas

I am using the randomizer, too.  I don't know if there's a problem with that,
maybe, or not.  I'll have to check.

Dan
-- 
Dan Montroy
University of Illinois
d-montroy@uiuc.edu
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From: brisson@philmtl.philips.ca (Pierre Brisson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: device AUX
Keywords: crashes, device, AUX
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:03:38 GMT
Organization: Philips Electronics Limited, St. Laurent QC, Canada

In article <gkb1.53.717678737@chempc1.york.ac.uk> gkb1@chempc1.york.ac.uk (Graham Barlow) writes:
>>
>>box:
>>			System Error
>>
>>		Cannot read from device AUX
>>
>>		OK			RETRY
>>
>>
>>After this message shows up, you can forget it. The only way with the prerelease
>>3.1 was to hit ALT+CNTRL+DEL (second time window crashes). Yes I thought Beta
>>copy, ya!. Ok Remouve everything, start again, install official Deutche Version.
... deleted...



To get rid of the message box, edit SYSTEM.INI file and add:

[Debug]
OutputTo=NUL


That should shut if off.


Pierre Brisson
From: n8946631@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Keith Kaplan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Procomm Windows w/ Boca 14.4 modem???
Keywords: Boca, Modem, Procomm, Windows
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:13:50 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

The current question is whether there's a problem with my very custom combo 
of IRQ/COM settings.  I had to do that to make another program work, but I 
don't use that anymore.  This week I'll try to switch back and see if that
helps.

Does anyone have this hardware/software working together with COM3 and IRQ7
I think that's where I have it set now.

Thanks for the help so far, Netland...
From: kaustell@viikki.Helsinki.FI (KIM OLAVI KAUSTELL (MATEK))
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Anyone using ToolBook ?
Summary: What can/cannot be don with Windows ToolBook ?
Keywords: ToolBook
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:55:00 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Fac.Agric.For.

HI !

I very much like the modelling tools and programming concept that 
HyperCard for Macintosh computers offers. Now I've been told, Windows 
ToolBook would be a good package for me since I'm mainly dealing with PC's 
running Windows 3.1 . I would use the software to build models of building 
planning data and their complex relationships.

What I'm looking for are comments and rewievs of ToolBook users concerning 
pros and cons of the program (speed, aplicability to different tasks..). 
What kind of projects have You used ToolBook for ?

Maybe there are other software packages that do the job better/cheaper/more 
sophisticated... ?

All comments on this subject are most welcome and appreciated.

Greetings from Finland !

                        y-=p Kim Kaustell p=-y
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From: pk64380@kaarne.cs.tut.fi (Kuusisto Pasi Petri,,,SIG,64380)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: device AUX
Date: 9 Oct 1992 07:26:44 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Tampere, Dep. of Computer Science ,Finland 
Distribution: inet
Reply-To: pk64380@kaarne.cs.tut.fi
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Originator: pk64380@kaarne.cs.tut.fi

From article <1992Oct8.030338.29093@philmtl.philips.ca>, by brisson@philmtl.philips.ca (Pierre Brisson):
> In article <gkb1.53.717678737@chempc1.york.ac.uk> gkb1@chempc1.york.ac.uk (Graham Barlow) writes:
>>>
>>>box:
>>>			System Error
>>>
>>>		Cannot read from device AUX
>>>
>>>		OK			RETRY
>>>
>>>
>>>After this message shows up, you can forget it. The only way with the prerelease
> .... deleted...
> 
> To get rid of the message box, edit SYSTEM.INI file and add:
> 
> [Debug]
> OutputTo=NUL
> 
> That should shut if off.
> 
   Does this mean for good? What about running DebugWindows after that?
   Should this be done again after each time of DBGWin?
 
> Pierre Brisson
   -zi
From: simon@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: W4W Citation Macros
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:22:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Mohammad Al-Ansari (alansar@ccs.northeastern.edu) wrote:
: [other stuff omitted].... One
: thing that would ENORMOUSLY improve the program, IMHO, is the ability to start
: the searches and insert the references without having to leave Winword and use
: the clipboard, etc.  The documentation talks about this and mentions that it
: can be done using DDE or something to that effect. That combined with some
: macros for Winword would make this program MUCH more useful, IMO. 

This is *exactly* the sort of suggestions I've been after - thanks!
Starting searches from inside Word strikes me as a very good idea.

I've been thinking about using DDE to communicate between WinRefer and
W4W.  There are a couple of difficulties I'm still pondering:  the first
is that I'd rather not get too tied into W4W, because I'd like WinRefer
to work with other word processors too;  the second is the problem of
forcing Word to insert text via a DDE link, which I'm not sure is possible.
It's perfectly possible from the Word end to request data from a DDE
client, but I don't know about the other way around.

Using the clipboard is a bit of a pain, I know, but it has the advantage
of being completely portable between all word processing (and other)
applications.

The next version of WinRefer I release probably *won't* have any DDE support.
It should, however,  have some handy Word macros, indexing and support 
for other reference database formats.  The release date isn't certain
as I've got a thesis to finish (preferably before the end of the month),
but it'll be on CICA (and announced on the net) as soon as possible given
these other commitments.

There's a small update to the current version on minster.york.ac.uk
(144.32.128.41), in the directory pub/simon.  This fixes a couple of bugs
in the addition of new reference files.

Thanks for your use of WinRefer, and your comments.  I'd welcome other
suggestions, comments, criticisms (even justified flames).


-- Si

Simon A. Dobson

Dept. of computer science,    \    If I'd the knack,
University of York,            \     I'd sing like
Heslington, York, UK.           \      Cherry flakes falling.

simon@minster.york.ac.uk
From: dflynn@aludra.usc.edu (Daniel Flynn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: NDW 2.0 Problems
Date: 14 Oct 1992 19:08:09 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


A few days ago, a couple of people posted problems they are having with
Norton Desktop for Windows. I took the liberty of downloading these posts
and passing them on to a friend who is a tech support person for Symantic
specifically on the NDW Support team.

He has since passed them on to the various people who will in turn respond
to those people with problems. So, since I have a direct line with the Norton
people, please post (remeber to post, since e-mail will ... Nevermind, just
post!) any problems that you have with NDW 2.0. Make sure you are specific
as to the problem, and include your name and a number that you can be reached
at during business hours.


Dan Flynn
dflynn@aludra.usc.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: jim@edscom.demon.co.uk (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Norton Desktop for Windows 2.0
X-Disclaimer: #include <std/witty/disclaimer.h>
Reply-To: Jim Thomas <jthomas@edscom.demon.co.uk>
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
	<168727F6B.SINMICS@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:50:54 GMT

>>>>> ">>" == SINMICS  <SINMICS@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> writes:

>>> In article <1992Sep30.132958.25624@state.systems.sa.gov.au>
>>> atjidxc@state.systems.sa.gov.au writes:
>Can anyone tell me what is the possible security value of the Norton
>Desktop for Windows 2.0 Screen Saver? Considering that there is a
>password option...I would have thought that whis would be sufficient!
>
>The problem is that if yoy CTL+ALT+DELETE at the screen saver level, good
>old Windows 3.1 says " No problems, you must want to terminate this
>application" and promptly puts you back to the Program Manager.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here...but SECURITY it's not...
>>>  
>>> I remember a protracted discussion about this issue on this group
>>> some time ago. After trying AfterDark, multiple shareware screen
>>> savers, including Resta and ScreenPeace, etc., the conclusion was
>>> that the only way to get real security is to use the screen savers
>>> provided with Win 3.1. If you're dissatisfied with the relative
>>> customazationibility (I don't know what word to put there), I think
>>> there are some programs at cica that allow hot corners and other
>>> things. If you don't like the relative quality, I think you'll have
>>> to compromise that for security.
>>>  
>>> This is all out of the shadowy recesses of my memory. If I'm wrong, someone
>>> please correct me.

After Dark 2.0 provides a means by which it (After Dark) can be installed
as one of Windows own screen savers in the Control Panel. I tried this
and did CTL+ALT+DEL and Windows offered to reboot my machine with
another CTL+ALT+DEL or return to Windows.

Jim Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Spanish font for WFW 2.0?
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:22:33 GMT


Is there a way to do things like upside down question marks in Word
for Windows?  And what about accent marks on words?

Or do I need a special font that isn't a standard font?  I checked in
the Symbol font (mostly Greek) and don't see anything there.

--
Dave Pascoe
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: jim@edscom.demon.co.uk (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: AfterDark 2.0a quirks with Win 3.1
X-Disclaimer: #include <std/witty/disclaimer.h>
Reply-To: Jim Thomas <jthomas@edscom.demon.co.uk>
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:28:10 GMT

>>>>> In article <Bvw5LM.67@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, "Dan" ==
>>>>> dem21178@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Montroy) writes:

Dan> I have AfterDark 2.0a and am running Windows 3.1, and for some of
Dan> the modules AD gives me a General Protection Fault in either
Dan> kernel386.exe or sometimes gdi.exe.  Has anyone seen this problem
Dan> at all?

Do these problems occur with the After Dark modules that came with
After Dark itself? I have some After Dark modules by other people
that are a bit buggy. This inlcudes GP faults. I've never had a problem
with any of the original ones however.

Dan> One thing I am wondering about is that I have 3 chip 1 meg SIMMS in
Dan> my machine, 4 of them.  Could this maybe be causing the problem?

Jim Thomas
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 14:48:13 EST
From: Brian 'I can not do that' Ross <ROSS@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: W4W 2.0: "File too large to save" (bug?)

Ah yes, what a familiar problem.
I too, do documentation -- and I have a 5M manual of which contains
pictures, graphics, styles, and the whole works.
I ran into the exact same problem and several others.
To get around the file too large, I had to split the manual into subsections.
I then created a master file, that used the INCLUDE field to include
all the various subfiles into one manual.  And this seemed to solve that
particular problem.
Another problem that I found (and this contradicts MS Tech support) is that
you can only nest 3 levels of INCLUDEs. This scares me because I can see
it being possible to have a master file of so many INCLUDEs that it would
need to be split as well.
Another problem with using INCLUDEs is that I can not update all the
fields at one time. I can only update about 1/3 the master file
and then I MUST save or I will run out of buffer space or something
used internally by W4W and then I am forced to quit without saving.
Currently I have 3 subfiles all of which are made up entirely of
sections and INCLUDEs. I then have a master file that has more sections,
the TOC, and INCLUDEs the subfiles.

I am running with only 3M on a PS/2 Model 70.



Bri
From: lrxi00@icts01.Kodak.COM (James Nonnemacher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Tracking program usage
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:01:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co

Does anyone know of a Windows program that will keep track (and save to a log) of what programs were
used, by who, when, for how long, etc, etc.? Also would like to be able to put security on some icons.
The Aldredge Co. has a DOS program (Precursor) that does this but not a Windows program.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: I7110503@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Peter Jonas)
Subject: W4W: Import of Excel charts
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:10:58 GMT

I have imported some excel 3.0 diagrams to a W4W document using the clipboard
device. In the original diagrams there are some greek characters formatted as
font 'SYMBOL'. The problem is that in W4W these characters are mapped to the
standard characters (A,B,C,...). Is it possible to preserve greek characters
so that they are showed as greek characters in W4W, too ?
 
Another question regarding EXCEL 3.0: How to handle text with indices, for
example x0, x1, .. ? Is there a convenient way to subscribe the indices 1,2,..
within a string.
 
Thank you for help.
 
Peter Jonas (i7110503@dbstu1.bitnet)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: jrs@zippy.unet.com (John Switzer Frame 3.0)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker pricing question
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:43:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.224410.17143@a.cs.okstate.edu> dpb@a.cs.okstate.edu (D. Paul Benjamin) writes:
>I've been trying for weeks to get the educational discount
>price for framemaker for windows. I've called and left messages
>at frame tech. but nobody ever calls back. Is there anybody out
>there who can tell me the price? Thanks in advance.
>
>Paul Benjamin

$199 was what I paid at the local college for the Windows version; the 
Mac version was also offered at the same price. This is the full Frame
package - nothing was missing.
From: david@master.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: New modem probs.
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:16:35 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago, Department of Anatomy


	I recently purchased a Boca 14.4 mode (internal) and installed it
as COM3/IRQ5.  The comm software I'm using is just the basic windows terminal.
The problem is I can't connect to anything. It dials, the remote node answers
but either nothing happens or I get jibberish.  This happens when I try
to call Bocas BBS too.  I've screwed with the settings and speeds and cant get
on.  I never get the connect message.  It seems like it takes along time
for my commands to be entered and processe.  So I type it in, theres a wait
of several seconcds, then the type appears on the screen, wait, then it dials.

	So, is it the software ?  If so, where can I get some public domain
or freeware and what is good, either for DOS or windows 3.1  My machine is 
a 386 33Mhz, if that makes a difference. Please e-mail me too with your response
if you can since I dont hang out here alot.

					Thanks
********************************************************************************
David H.		University of Chicago	david@master.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Aldus IntelliDraw?
From: chris@bclwn.wn.bcl.co.nz (Chris Mackerell)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 23:13:39 GMT
Organization: Business Computers Ltd, Wellington, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Hi,

Our local Aldus dealers are currently offering "a spectacular deal" ;-)
on IntelliDraw.

Does anyone on the net have any comments to make, be they good, bad or
indifferent?

Cheers,

Chris
-- 
    _     _
 / /_) / /   / /  / Chris Mackerell <chris@bcl.co.nz> [a/h chris@owdjim.gen.nz]
/ /_) / /_  / /_ /  Ph: +64 (4) 801-6716  Fax: +64 (4) 385-2752
Business Computers Ltd, Box 3236, Wellington 6000, NEW ZEALAND.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: c498017@cs.UAlberta.CA (Tokarsky James)
Subject: Decent Disk Space Monitor
Summary: New Windows App 
Organization: University of Alberta
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:18:38 GMT

 I have uploaded diskfree.zip to ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  It is currently
located in the /ftp/pub/pc/win3/uploads directory.  Enjoy!
From: clarion@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Clarion)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: W4W 2.0b
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:46:23 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In <LHLasB1w165w@flex.com> ternahan@flex.com (Philip Ternahan) writes:

>Could the party who earlier gave the Microsoft # for upgrade please 
>repeat it?  I lost the post.  Thanks...

Call Microsoft's sales & service number - (800) 426-9400.

There is a backlog, so expect a 2-3wk delay.

J. Butler 
Cary Club Clarion

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: CalendarMaker
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:08:30 GMT

Is anyone familiar with CalendarMaker for Windows?  I just read a very short
review about it in Windows User and also noted in PC Week that the software's
publishers were coming out with a new version.  Is this software that I 
should invest in or is there something else out there to use with Windows?

My needs are to produce a full page monthly calendar which allows the user
to type in information reagarding scheduling for any given day.

Thanks in advance for your help.

-------------------------------------
Kevin Hansen
MN Twin Family Study - U of MN
khansen@epx.cis.umn.edu - (612)626-7224
-------------------------------------

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Subject: Pagemaker Tutorial
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:05:18 GMT

  My Pagemaker Tutorial Icon seems to have gone to the great icon-hole in
the sky. I'd reinstall the tutorial but the master disks seem to have followed
it. (NOT permananetly, I hope). Does anyone know the (Properties) command line
and parameters to start the tutorial ?


-- 
Jeff Sicherman
up the net without a .sig
From: andrew@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Andrew Nielsen)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:34:20 GMT
Subject: COM2 in use by DOS program
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps

I am having problems with windows3.0 in the area of communications.  I have
had my modem for about a year it is a 2400bps modem and have used it 
satisfactorally for quite some time.  Reciently it has stopped working in 386
mode.  When I run terminal when in 386 mode I get a message when trying to
use my com port COM2 that says "COM2 in use by DOS program."  I have tried a 
number of things the worst of which is clearing out my C drive and reinstalling
DOS5.0 and window3.0.  I still have no luck getting the thing to work. Does
anyone have any suggestions or know how this happens?
 _______
/_-----_\ Andrew Nielsen
 | ooo |  HP Fort Collins
 | ooo |  andrew@hpfcdn.fc.hp.com
 +-----+  Please respond to the above address... Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: R13552@paccvm.corp.mot.com (Taylor Cheng)
Subject: Concepts & Realities
Organization: Motorola
Date: 16 Oct 1992 13:41:55 HKT

Dear Netters,
     I would like to bring together concepts and actual software products
 One of the concepts related to GUI (I think) is UIMS (User Interface
Management Systems.) My understanding is that UIMS is an interactive tool
or set of tools for designing, developing, and delivering user interfaces
and thus separate the user interface from the application functionality.
Today, we've numerous tools, toolkits, libraries, GUI-based development
systems, say for MS Windows 3.x. To name but a few: QuickCase:W and
Builder Xcessory (for Motif applications). Could anyone tell me if those
tools can be classified as UIMS or not ? Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps