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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: this hair thang
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:54:02 GMT

There's at least a bezillion theories as to why we still have
body hair in places like our armpits and nether regions.  The
pheromone bit plays a large part in these.

There are also a bunch of theories with which I disgree about
why we have such prolifically-growing head hair.  Lots of (male)
anthropologists say it's *SEXUAL*.  (5th century Chinese men probably
said the same thing about deformed feet, and anthropologists
who should know better nowadays have said that about breasts(!) if you
can believe it!)  The ACTUAL answer (I'm not humble about this one) is
far more obvious.

Have you ever seen a bald man after he's done jogging?  The air above
his head is actually WAVERING from loss of heat.  There are just tons of
little veins and arteries all over your scalp; that's why scalp wounds
bleed like pigs.  And when there are that many blood vessels that close
to the surface, they give off a lot of heat.  Bald men and men losing
their hair have to wear hats even when it's not too cold out back home,
because they lose so much body heat when it's even just nippy, more if
there's a breeze.  Head hair acts as an insulation from loss of body
heat from the head, the part of the body most fully and reliably
supplied with LOTS AND LOTS of blood, aside of course from the heart,
which is buried deeply enough in the body for heat loss not to be a
problem.  

It isn't really needed for trapping body odors; your head just doesn't
stink as much as the other hairy bits do.  It also grows MUCH more
prolifically, and doesn't stop at a relatively fixed length like other
body hair does (I KNOW it keeps on growing, but it does do so slowly).

Sounds good to me!

Blessings,
Janis
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Warfare and women
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:36:32 GMT

In article <29EC40D6.3D88@deneva.sdd.trw.com> shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.170308.12319@demon.co.uk> Leo Smith
>      <shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk> writes:
>>At the risk of being flamed (probably by ailsa:-))
>>I have to say that I agree with shava a lot on this - that womens
>>agrressive instincst are (culturally? biologically?) channelled away
>>from direct physical actions towards underhand methods. I don't think
>>it is a coincidence that there are a lot of anecdotal statements
>>about this matter - e.g. the female of the species is more deadly
>>than the male - feme fatale - or even the rather unpleasant usage of
>>a term referring to an identifiable female piece of sexual apparatus
>>to represent a man who is devious and treacherous.
>
>OK, I have to interrupt. Since there are some basic differences in the
>male and female brain (see references to corpus callosum, aphasia, and
>right-brain left-brain communications for answers or further
>information), there are going to be differences in the way that they
>respond to given situations as well.
>
>Please don't assume that someone's opinion about female behavior is
>quotable fact. There is always room for a wide expression of
>personality, and lots of influence from genetics as well, but there
>are still basic differences between female and male, and all the
>wishful thinking in the world will not make it otherwise.
>
>Women may or may not have aggressive tendencies, but it ain't
>instinct. The only instincts that homo (fill in the blank) are born
>with are the fear of falling and the fear of loud noises. Certainly

I don't know.  I've known some rather mild-mannered women who have
turned into raging tornadoes, quite without their conscious approval or
decision to do so, when the mere possibility of threat to their kids
pops up.

I don't even *like* kids, but if I were to have one, you're damned right
I could see myself ripping someone's throat out if they harmed them.
And I'm not talking about the conscious "Get over here, you bastard"
type of threat.  I'm talking about when your brain goes "SPROING!" and
you start gouging flesh.

You do find a mothering instinct in many animals, including primates.
I'm interested in how you arrived at the conclusion that we have
instinctual fears of only the two things you mentioned.

Blessings,
Janis C.
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Defects (was worship of greek gods)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:28:15 GMT

In article <20149@castle.ed.ac.uk> egnr76@castle.ed.ac.uk (A Kashko) writes:
>
>	I read somewhere that myopia may actually be caused by reading,
>or more generally by excessive use of the close focussing eye muscles.
>(THis seems plausible but not for all cases), which distorts the shape of
>the eyeball.
>

And *I* read somewhere that it might be genetic.  We don't really know.
I've seen it run in families; it certainly runs in mine.

And if people who have to overcome handicaps are more "intelligent,"
then why don't we all just pull our eyeballs out?  Intelligence has
little to do with this.  All it means is that I can't stay over my
boyfriend's apt on a lark because I need disinfectant, and I can't see
past the covers when I get up in the morning.  I can't play pool
anywhere but in the student cetner because I can't frigging aim when
there's smoke around.  I'm kept buying and buying saline and
disinfectant at around $15 a pop for both.  (Sorry for the ambiguity.  I
deleted the reference to this subject.) 

And I'm beginning to wonder whether wearing these damned things and my
glasses isn't just training my eyes to be crappy.  I'd love to not wear
them for one year and see if my vision improved.

(Just an aside, I can read newspapers quickly upside-down, and can read
spinning record labels easily.  I possess excellent visual ACUITY, and
can score damned high with a bow or a rifle, and I've worn glasses since
I was in fourth grade.  The two are unrelated.  This is really
sidelight, but I always think it's neat.)

Blessings,
Janis C.


Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Subject: Gwyddionic
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Keywords: help
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 21:04:51 GMT

Anyone out there follow the Gwyddionic traditions.  I would like to
learn a little history, available literature, any info would be
welcome.  Email is probably best.  Whatever.  Thanks.

Bill
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Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: jlevitt@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mortiana)
Subject: Re: When the music is over
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:49:03 GMT

nc313127@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>I have heard so much about pagan music, but I have never really heard any.  It
>also seems to be hard to find around here.  Does anyone have any suggestions
>of where to look, and for that matter, who to look for?

>Azure
>"lend me your ears and i'll sing you a song"

try looking in the 'new age' section of your local record store.
as for who, i usually tend to the instrumentals...david arkenstone is 
a very good artist to start with.

Mortiana
a.k.a. julie levitt
a.k.a. Opal
From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: celtic somthingorother
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:08:07 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Someone the other day made the statement that the mediterranean cultures
had no contact with the celts.

The word "celt" comes from greek, apparrently.  There has been a fairly 
interesting thread in soc.culture.celtic recently about its origin.
Remember, at one point most of Northern Europe was populated by celts.
So yes, the mediterranean regions had dealings with them.  Did IRISH
and SCOTTISH myths inspire the story of Christ? No way.

dug.y
From: markbr@radian.UUCP (markbr)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: neanderthals
Summary: I usually restrain myself, but this is too much
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:23:23 GMT
Organization: Radian Corp. Austin, TX

In article <1992Apr12.135001.5403@news.iastate.edu>, xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
# my personal thery is that the cro-magnine man evolved into us because of
# being more war like.studies of histery show that to be a beter determanation
# of secesion then technoligy, as well as the fact that we do seem to have that
# tendency and tend to discrimanate on looks. i have seen neanderthal recon-
# structions and the skulls. there extream difrinces are less evedent whin
# tisheu and skin are in place. neanderthals brock of from the main line long
# befor cro-magnon. the two were about as relater as apes and gerrilas. the 
# slant in the forhead was do to a lake of frontal lobes(primary function tellin
#  the moter cortex how to move the mouth ect mucless to vocalize speach) as far
# as things go i dont think that they dissapered so much as adapted.  ( intere theory concerning bigfoot) if you had to worry about you graves and dead being
# desacrated you would comup with a way to avoud it. ie cremation, intern-
# ment.
# 
# ELF-KIN on the lighter side of reality-some ones


As I said in the subject, I usually restrain myself over mispellings, but
this is beyond the pale. Either the poster is deliberately being silly,
or they are completely ignorant, and the question arises as to how they 
managed to key in the correct commands to read news, much less post.


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	Some early etymological scholars come up with derivations that
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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Herbals Request: Stomach Nausea
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:27:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.041750.18194@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ai210@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Josh Steier) writes:
>
>The cannabinols are almost certianly transmitted through the 
>placenta. Cocaine and opiate alkaloids do transmit in large numbers.
>
>
>If you have a need for medical marihuana, slowly cooking the marijuana
>in butter, than extracting as much lkiquid as possible will avoid the
>possibility of inhaling smoke byproducts.
>
>This recipie came from Diseased Pariah News, a California based
>AIDS activist magazine. People with AIDS often use it to lessen the
>lethalness of the side effects of chemotherapy.
>
>
>be well
>josh

This is interesting.  A friend of mine with leukemia said that when she
was going through chemo, they gave her THC pills.  This then prompted
her roommates to ask, "Could I just try ONE?" and recommend to her that
she set them out in a little dish onthe TV set with some M&M's.

Now, if only the damned stuff were LEGAL so doctor's could legitinately
investigate it . . .

Blessings,
Janis C.
From: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Are there Pagan Atheists?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:39:06 GMT
Reply-To: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Malcolm Fletcher writes:
>I LIKE IT!!!! as to oppresses in the US, Christianity oppresses everywhere, 
>by it's very nature it seeks to oppress, you can't have an open minded 
>Christian, keep up the GOOD FIGHT!

So you write "You can't have an open minded Christian..."  That sounds
like a non-open minded statement.  Therefore you are Christian?

Terence
From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Beyond the grave
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:35:12 GMT
Reply-To: Leo Smith <shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

>How do you connect a ouija board to the net?

Use a virtual socket of course:-)

.. TCP/IP using poletrgeist and other unreliable carriers of
datagrams ought to be able to achieve reliable end-to end connections
to various spirit worlds.... Who will fund me to build the first
Internet Gateway to the Astral Plane?
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Jesus was a pagan and lonely wiccians
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:46:54 GMT

: The Gnostic Gospels have even less connection to the historical Jesus than
: the accepted Gospels.  Jesus was a Jew--the accepted Gospels were written
: by Jews; I think that the Gnostic Gospels were written by Gentiles.  This
: does not meant that Gnosticism should be ignored, but it (as with most of
: Christianity) should not be attributed to the Jewish rabbi Jeshua ben Joseph.

Well, there are quite a few Jews that believe that many of their holy works
were written solely for the purpose of impressing the Romans.

Bill
From: oispeggy@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan,alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Witches in hair (was Re: Worship of the Greek gods)
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:39:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr4.085707.1358@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes...
>alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld) writes:
> 
>>>I've always found this curious, because when I was growing up in central
>>>Vermont, it was a saying about taking out tangles by breaking the hair
>>>that one was "getting the witches out of [one's] hair."
> 
>>a more widespread term than that ? I'm in Scotland. Do people say this
>>in other places than Vermont and Scotland ? 

I've heard the phrase "getting the *rats* out of [one's] hair" - but no 
witches.  

- Peggy -
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Worship of the Greek gods
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:00:13 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <loren.37@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu> loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller) writes:
>In article <29E23424.27938@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>>I did not ask for what
>>happened to me and my family, and if I am "sensitive," that's just too
>>bad for the rest of you.  *I* bear the scars of what happened to me, and
>>if it's too much for *you* to bear, that's just too damned bad.
>
>Go ahead, be proud of your scars. I hail you for it. However, there is a 

I'm not proud of them.  I don't want them.  I simply acknowledge them as
a part of my history and consequently having influenced my present.  BUt
I don't have to like them.

Blessings,
Janis
From: dionysia@netlink.cts.com (Dionysia Marqueza)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: help requested (long)
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:52:48 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA


        I read a lot of netmail, on Fido and Usenet. The following appeared on     

Usenet alt.native, and I would like to bring it to everyone's attention. If you     
   
wonder -why- I do, spend a little time imagining what it would be like to be in 
Tony and Thelma Rio's position, with no money and little hope of being able to 
have the benefits of the legal assistance only money can provide in this country
-these people need your help, whether it be money, networking, good wishes or  
just plain moral support and energy. 
        If you think that the travails of a native American family in some back
wood reservation don't have anyhting to do with you, I would invite you to think
again... have you ever been short of money and resources, and needed some sort 
aid that only currency can procure? If you have had the great good fortune to  
never be in that position, have you ever had a friend or family member that    
has? As much as being an issue of the disenfranchisement of native American    
people, I see this to be an issue of what it is like to be poor in America.    
        If you wonder why I am posting this to a metaphysically related echo/  
newsgroup, I do so because this is one of the many communities in which I live,
and, all differences aside, I feel that regardless of whether you are shamanic,
ceremonialist, masonic, wiccan, christian mystic or any other stripe or flavor 
of mage, you are all part of the same current. These two people are part of that
very same current, being heir to a tradition rich and full of the life of this 
land. They are of us. 
        The following is a couple of posts on this subject, verbatim from usenet
alt.native, headers and all. Please pass the word.                              

        Dionysia

(alt.native posts begin here)

Xref: ryptyde alt.native:659 alt.activism:8885 misc.legal:4352
From: bbs.taliesin@goonsquad.Spies.COM
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Red hair...
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:03:12 GMT
Organization: Spies in the wire, PUBLIC ACCESS (408) 867-7400

I dunno about any legendary significance of red hair and magickal powers, 
but I _do_ know about the temper bit! <g>

I would be interestted if you find out anything on it tho.

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From: smayo@wang.com (Scott Mayo)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: alt.pagan survey, notes from the originator
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:43:51 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

Please, everyone! Let me make a few requests here.

Do as you will, but *I'd* rather people didn't post there survey answers back
here, or discuss the actual questions in depth here, until the survey
ends (in about a month). There will be plenty of time to discuss these
points once the results come out, and in the meantime, extended discussion
on the survey questions themselves may have a biasing effect.

I didn't post these questions to start any wars. (Posting the results,
that's different...) 

I do have one comment relevant to this thread, though --

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>The religious texts may say otherwise. For example,
>in Christianity there is a commandment "Thou shalt have no other god
>before me". Now, many Christians believe that this means that there
>is only one god and you are prohibited from worshipping or believing
>in any others. This is not what the commandment says - it simply
>commands that the Christian God be the primary god at the top of the
>heap. It says nothing about what you may do with "lesser" gods.

No, that verse is not why Christians believe in only one God. There are
other verses that support that claim, but this isn't one of them.

This verse *is* understood to mean that whether there are other gods
or not, Jews (and Christians) are not to worship them or promote them
above the God of Abraham. This is why you see raised eyebrows at talk
of Christians who also worship the goddess in some form or another -
that's one *seriously variant* form of Christianity, to put it mildly.
--
These are only my opinions.  You should hear my convictions.
smayo@wang.com
From: treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Warfare and women -OOOOPS!
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:51:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr15.235152.26961
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hey everybody, I just accidentally posted an article-in-progress
that I meant to abort.  It will seem pretty senseless, so don't
waste precious minutes of your life flaming it- I disagree
too.

eventually however the article would have gotten to a point:

Female and male humans work together synergistically to
organize, provide rewards for one another, and direct
aggression towards material and social gain.

War (as contrasted to mere violence or aggression) is,
in the short term, highly desireable if you think your side
will win.  This is modified, in the case of women, by
children.  I find it very difficult to say exactly what I mean
at this point, but it is something along the lines of
"I'm busy with these babies.  I have responsibilities.  go make up
responsibilities of your own, and by the way, if it increases
the availability of food or enhances social position, I'm for it"


...war only looks bad to the loser, and just very recently 
in history, war looks like something that makes us all
losers...

-inarticulate opinions all over the place,

treon (male)(slack-jawed microwave food user; earth molester)

...and Airhead!


P.S. are you reminded of the 'utility of religion' by what I wrote?
I am.  god/dess(es) surely ease the privations of the poor and help
bind together societies.  whether religion, or war, looks good to
your society depends so very much on the 'human ecology' of
your society.

more P.S.  You can help put an end to all this strife!  I don't
know how, but maybe you can find a way.  What is the way?
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (Doug Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Psychic Hotlines
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:46:08 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <2APR199214411011@ducvax.auburn.edu>, cpearson@ducvax.auburn.edu
(MISTYEYES) writes:
>  Do these psychic hotline numbers and Ad's on Tv bother
>anyone else but me??? I seem to find it hard to believe taht
>they could be geniune...

Yeah, they tend to bother me too.  Simply because they tend to put the psychic
realm in a rather dim light.  Or rather reinfoircing the dim light that has
already been cast upon it...

But I also feel (more strongly) that they have the right to put such things on
the air.  Remember: "The first amendment is not just a good idea, it's the
law!"

And one of my friends have used them on occasion, and has told me that they
seem to be fairly good...

Krikket  --  a.k.a. Doug Krick  --  krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us   

"An armed society is a polite society"  -- Bob Heinlein
"Robert Heinlein died for your sins"  -- A butten seen at Cons, approved by
                                         Mrs. Heinlein when she saw them...
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: mkkuhner@milton.u.washington.edu (Mary K. Kuhner)
Subject: Re: Worship of the Greek gods
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:24:50 GMT

In article <29E6093F.5262@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:

>Take your pick.  Today's society is not eradicating defects.  It's
>allowing these defects to continue so we get less healthy.  And I'm not
>talking about things like virus diseases like smallpox.  I'm talking
>about genetic and structural problems that can make a person untenable
>in a less techie society.

Genetic defects are present in all animal species.  Natural selection
won't get rid of recessive genetic diseases, it will only maintain them
at a rare level.  You can work out the reasons for this mathematically.

Cystic fibrosis and other genetic diseases do not owe their prevalence
to medical care; this is especially clear with CF, which is only
marginally more survivable now than it ever was, and has only been
treatable at all for less than a generation.

The ideas you present are very common, but not among people actually
studying human genetics.

Mary Kuhner mkkuhner@genetics.washington.edu