From: Joe@twistor.dialix.oz.au (Joe Katnic)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Doug Hamilton responds
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:09:36 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <C18B17.45E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:
>bill@west.msi.com (Bill Poitras) writes:
>
>>IBM is not going to have Taligent compete with OS/2, but have it be the
>>next logical step.  This has been mentioned several times in interviews
>
>That is one problem with OS/2. IBM is probably just supporting it as best they
>can while they develop taligent. Many industry analysts wonder why people would
>bother with OS/2 when IBM wants to move on to something else. I think IBM will
>just give up on OS/2 as soon as they finish taligent, when they can start over
>and hopefully this time not relive the nightmare they did with OS/2.
>
1. Taligent is the company set up by Apple and IBM to develop object
   oriented techniques for operating systems.
2. Both IBM and Apple have stated again and again that the output from
   Taligent will be licensed code NOT working operating systems.
3. Both IBM and Apple have indicated that they will incorporate the
   techniques and code licensed from Taligent into their existing
   product lines.
4. IBM has stated its intent to incorporate Taligent technology into
   OS/2, AIX and other SAA operating system platforms.
5. ALL things evolve. This includes operating systems. The UNIX of today
   is not the same beast as was originally developed. MVS, IBM's 
   premier mainframe operating system has evolved into something quite
   different from the original. I fully expect OS/2 and AIX to
   continue to evolve with new hardware and software technologies.
6. If you don't like the way it is now. Purchase the software and send
   suggestions for improvement to IBM, via user groups or directly.
7. IBM has a history of not just dropping a major part of their strategy.
   They would rather evolve the components until they became what was
   desired. This technique will allow the existing users time to
   gear up for the new techniques without worrying about whether the old
   software will work on the new operating system. 
>
>OS/2 1.3 is not nearly as buggy and unstable as 2.0, so 1.3 owners are staying
>with it. Computer enthusiasts are a big part of OS/2 2.0's market; the rest
>are highly specialized vertical app users, which prefer 1.3 if they are already
>using it. That's why IBM is still supporting 1.3.
>

At work, we decided to use OS/2. Our mainframe is IBM and our applications
can be made to work cooperatively with applications we write on the OS/2
platform. This is very important. Vertical market? Well yes, but that
market is huge bigger even then home usage of computers. That vertical   
market makes the world go round. I've never seen a word processor handle
a banking transaction. Both the vertical market applications and the 
horizontal? market applications will be required. However, writing off
OS/2 applciations as insignificant merely because they are vertical
applications is a mistake.

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