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From: ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: AMT Longslide?  Any good?
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:31:55 GMT
Organization: Circle 'C' Shellfish Ranch, Shores-of-the-Pacific, California

In article <ddyA026c2f6R01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger) writes:
#
#In article <1992Dec21.190226.4408@convex.com>, tighe@convex.COM (Mike
#Tighe) writes:
##ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) writes:
##
###2 questions:  Is it any good?  (AMT .45 1911s in general...)
###and ... Does the long slide make the gun unbalanced in any way?
##
##I used to own an AMT Hardballer. The happiest day I had with it was the
##day
##I sold it. It looked great, but it jammed constantly. I sent letters to
##the
##company asking some simple questions, and never received any replies.
##I
##would never own an AMT product again.
#
#Well, this is just the opposite from my experience with MY hardballer. 
#Great trigger, feeds anything (including lead semi wadcutters) 
#flawlessly. The adjustable rear sight is a little cheap, but whadda ya 
#want for the money?? It works OK for me, and the zero doesn't change, 
#so it's servicable.
#
#Maybe the reason Mike couldn't get any action on the letters is because 
#AMT has reorg'ed & moved a couple times, and they may not have gotten 
#his letters?? Just a speculation..........

ARRRGGGGUUUU!!!!  Is there ANY Colt clone company that hasn't/isn't
going under?  First I settled on a Springfield, then I was told they
were winding down operations.  Then I thought about a Real Colt, and
was told they were Chapter 11 (or some such).  Now I find out that
AMT is doing multiple Reorgs...

So who does that leave?  Norinco - questionable quality?, Para Ordinance-
which I can't find anywhere, even in my Shooters Bible, and which is
reputed to be expensive, Auto Ordinance - also questionable quality...

Sigh.  I tried handling a Glock, but the grip just feels wrong to me.
(It DID sight exactly where I pointed it on the instinctive point test.
Every time I checked the sights, it was spot-on where I was pointing!  
It just feels funny to me.  I tried handling a Ruger P9x (the .45acp)
and never felt such a strange trigger.  It goes through about 4 changes
of pull hardness as things connect inside before it (finally!) creeps
to a release ... it seems like a inch of trigger travel ...  It also 
failed the instinctive point test.  Each point felt good, but checking
the sights showed that it was all over the place... A Sig is out of my 
price range...

I know, Colt is doing a chapter, not going out of business ... and a 
reorg isn't going out of business either ... but it sure makes one
reluctant ... and jepordizes product lines.  I'd rather not buy a 
model just in time to have it discontinued...
-- 

E. Michael Smith  ems@apple.COM

'Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it.  Boldness has
 genius, power and magic in it.'  -  Goethe

I am not responsible nor is anyone else.  Everything is disclaimed.
From: jarmala@pcuf.fi (Ari J{rm{l{)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Pyrotechnic simulations with computer
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:33:15 GMT
Organization: The PC-users of Finland


 
Does anybody know any good fireworks simulation programs? I've
got one with my Windows' IdleWild screen blanker, but there are
only two types of effects there. I'd like to have more.
 
Also sound and reports would be appreciated...
 
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Ari Jarmala (the three 'a's are umlauted),
     o             o
at 60 19'49" N   24 18'38" E
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From: dbillesbach@crcvms.unl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Newbie idiot question
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:45:56 CST
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: crcvms.unl.edu

In article <1992Dec21.180805.8650@walter.cray.com>, radner@cray.com (Lauren Radner) writes:
> 
> To EVERYONE who was nice enough to answer me, either on the net or
> in e-mail, *thank* you.
stuff deleted
> 
> Lots of people said I ought to be able to get them cheaper (than
> six or seven for a buck) but I'm still not sure where. Lots of
> folks said they are more easily attainable around the 4th of
> July but I'm *still* not sure where. I live in Minnesota, if 
> that makes a difference (folks have to travel to Wisconsin to
> buy fireworks, I know that much).
  Lauren:

I worked for the last several summers in Grand Rapids, MN. and found these 
things in a local novelty store under the name of "Snap n Pops" (I think 
that the store was called Indian Joes Trading Post).  This suggests that 
(at least in Minnesota) these are not considered fireworks.  I imagine that 
you might find them in a local novelty/magic/joke store.  Also I am not too 
familiar with the fireworks available in Wisconsin, but there are some nice 
things sold in North Dakota and South Dakota.  In South Dakota, fireworks 
are sold between 1-May and 31-Aug if you have an out of state drivers 
licence.

                  Dave B.

                                _  ,/|
                               '\`o.O'
                                =(_ _)=
                                  |U|

                          Ackkkk!!   Tbhppphhhh!!

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From: jarmala@pcuf.fi (Ari J{rm{l{)
Subject: How to get Parlon rubber?
Organization: The PC-users of Finland
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:16:40 GMT

Whose trademark is Parlon? Who sells it? For what is it normally used
except pyrotechnics? Do other chlorinated rubbers do as well as Parlon?
 
---------------------------------------------
Ari Jarmala (the three 'a's are umlauted),
     o             o
at 60 19'49" N   24 18'38" E
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From: rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Triggering systems.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 00:27:49 PST
Reply-To: rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Jim) writes:

> In article 6B66VB5w165w@cyberden.sf.ca.us, rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us () write
> >I mabye didn't make myself clear enough in my request for a triggering 
> >system.  A: I know what a solar igniter is, thank you very much!  B: I 
> >know what slow burn fuse is, thank you very much!  C: I want a REMOTE 
> >CONTROL (RADIO) PRE-MADE triggering system!  OR a PRE-MADE TIMER 
> >(DIGITAL) triggering system.  If I get another response about slow burn 
> >fuse or long stereo wire I'm going to puke!  Thank you very much.
> 
> :-)  I can't resist it...
> 
> Have you considered using slow burn fuse or long stereo wire?  A slow burn
> fuse is a fuse which has a slow burn.  Or more precisely, a fuse which burns
> *slowly*.  This fuse, which is slow-burning, can be used to for a fuse which
> has to have slowish burning as a characteristic.  Being a slow burner, this
> fuse allows you to run the fuck away before your cardboard assembly of
> match-heads and long stereo wire farts into the wind with a miserable puff
> of smoke. fsst.

This is truly a man who cannot follow directiions like he should have 
learned in kindergarten.  :)  All in good humor!

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: rec.pyrotechnics FAQ
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:50:27 GMT

mikeg@asylum.tmc.edu (Michael Grabenstein) writes:
: 
: 	Is there a FAQ that exists that equates the chemical names
: to household names?
: (ie. Sodium iodine == Table salt)

Not that I know of.

By the way, table salt is sodium chloride. You can get it in both
iodized and uniodized forms.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: presto@bach.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks)
Subject: certification? & flash powder
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:27:22 GMT

	First, is there some way to become a licensed or certified
pyrotechnician? I have run into potential problems with using flash powder in
certain theatres. I am a part-time professional magician and really like to use
certain flash effects in my performances.
	Also, I have experimented with off-the-shelf flash powder (Newco NPII)
and am wondering what methods other people use to ignite it. I have used glowing
filaments, but don't know of a place to get these in any quantity. I have also
used model rocket igniters, but these can only be used once. I would prefer to
use a spark-type igniter, but haven't worked out a good circuit for generating
a decent spark. I also found it amusing (frustrating) that I couldn't get a
small pile of unwanted flash powder to ignite using a soldering iron. I'm not
sure how hot the stuff has to get.
	I'd be interested in any info on a course to take for certification, or
whatever. People in New Castle County won't even allow lit candles onstage, but
I've gotten away with some flashpots for a while. I don't want to keep pushing
my luck, though. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
-Jason
-- 
| presto@brahms.udel.edu       | A senior E.E. at the U of D with a side order
| presto@freezer.cns.udel.edu  | of stage and close-up magic. The views
| nocks@snow-white.ee.udel.edu | expressed are exclusively my own (etc).
From: rh@craycos.com (Robert Herndon)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Clean Burning Liquid Needed
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:15:12 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

I (should? can? will?) perhaps add that isopropyl alcohol is toxic.
Not terribly so, but neither would I happily drink any quantity of
it.  Much like wood alcohol (methanol) in toxicity, I believe.  Not
good for the brain or eyes.

Should you show up at a hospital apparently having drunk any quantity
of either methanol or isopropanol, you'll most likely be kept drunker
than imaginable for the next few days...

If low toxicity is desired, I'd definitely go with ethanol (EverClear,
151 rum, polish vodka, ...) or possibly some sort of easy-to-ignite
vegetable oil.  (Any suggestions?  All the vegetable oils I'm familiar
with burn rather sootily.)

Robert
----
I'm not a juggler, but I play one on TV.
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: radner@cray.com (Lauren Radner)
Subject: Re: Newbie idiot question
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:08:05 CST


To EVERYONE who was nice enough to answer me, either on the net or
in e-mail, *thank* you.

Thanks to everyone's kind advice, it seems wisest to just try and
buy these small snappers/poppers/crackers/mini-explosives rather
than invest in the chemicals and body armour necessary to make
the stuff. 

Lots of people said I ought to be able to get them cheaper (than
six or seven for a buck) but I'm still not sure where. Lots of
folks said they are more easily attainable around the 4th of
July but I'm *still* not sure where. I live in Minnesota, if 
that makes a difference (folks have to travel to Wisconsin to
buy fireworks, I know that much).

Anyway, thanks again for all the time and trouble you took to
help me out on this one. I'll go back to lurking, now.

-Lauren


Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Chemical Kiloton Exp/Nuke testing
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:33:32 GMT

>In article <1g2pdqINN3k7@runamok.hal.COM>, chuckh@hal.COM (Chuck Heron) writes...

>>I would imagine that it would either have to be a _deep_ hole (couple-5 miles?)
>>or the room/chamber would have to be pretty structurally sophisticated, or both.

Drilling a five mile deep hole (26K feet?) is a little bit much
for present day drilling technology, not to mention the cost. 

If this were done through oceanic crust you'd be down to mantle.



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Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: MEC
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 17:27:25 PST
Reply-To: mhatter@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

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Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: Andrew.Brooks@launchpad.unc.edu (Andrew Brooks)
Subject: Big bangs
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:55:29 GMT


With regard to the Chemical Kiloton Experiment, I saw a news item the
other day that mentioned that the Chinese used 12,000 tons of
conventional explosive to demolish a small mountain to make room
for an extension to a helicopter airport last week.  One wonders why they
couldn't just put it somewhere else - after all, helicopters
don't need long, straight runways or anything.  Perhaps they have
been monitoring this newsgroup for too long :)
--
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Triggering Systems
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 23:59:54 PST
Reply-To: rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Hey,
        I need the adress or # of a place that can sell timer or remote 
triggering systems, I only need like 9 or 10 Volts and I need cheap, some 
sort of rugged trigger system would be prefered.  Oh yeah cheap would 
help.  I'm really tired of lighting like 3' of fuse so I can get back, 
and its not very accurate, and it also is a fire hazard.  Please E-mail 
me rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Thanks.

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From: paladin@west.darkside.com (Paladin)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Triggering systems.
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:43:48 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Jim) writes:

> In article 6B66VB5w165w@cyberden.sf.ca.us, rdicker@cyberden.sf.ca.us () write
> >I mabye didn't make myself clear enough in my request for a triggering 
> >system.  A: I know what a solar igniter is, thank you very much!  B: I 
> >know what slow burn fuse is, thank you very much!  C: I want a REMOTE 
> >CONTROL (RADIO) PRE-MADE triggering system!  OR a PRE-MADE TIMER 
> >(DIGITAL) triggering system.  If I get another response about slow burn 
> >fuse or long stereo wire I'm going to puke!  Thank you very much.
> 
> :-)  I can't resist it...
> 
> Have you considered using slow burn fuse or long stereo wire?  A slow burn
> fuse is a fuse which has a slow burn.  Or more precisely, a fuse which burns
> *slowly*.  This fuse, which is slow-burning, can be used to for a fuse which
> has to have slowish burning as a characteristic.  Being a slow burner, this
> fuse allows you to run the fuck away before your cardboard assembly of
> match-heads and long stereo wire farts into the wind with a miserable puff
> of smoke. fsst.

Did you used to write gags for Monty Python?
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: bbs.byron@tsoft.net (Byron Reynolds)
Subject: F100 Rockets
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 09:21:59 GMT

I learned today that an F100 rocket engine can not lift a 1 lb rocket.
Well, I take that back...it can lift it...about 5 feet.  I had a real
dudder of a new years rocket...but the flash charge was still good.  I 
fired my 2.5' tall by 3" diameter missile at 12:00 midnight, it jumped
off the ground, plopped back to earth and blew a big hole in the mud.
Happy New Year!

--
Byron Reynolds (bbs.byron@tsoft.net)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: moroney@world.std.com (Michael Moroney)
Subject: Re: How to get Parlon rubber?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:23:46 GMT

>jarmala@pcuf.fi (Ari J{rm{l{) writes:
> Whose trademark is Parlon? Who sells it? For what is it normally used
> except pyrotechnics? Do other chlorinated rubbers do as well as Parlon?

I believe both KSI and Firefox sell Parlon.  I heard it may have been
discontinued by the manufacturer though.  I believe it is/was used in latex
paints and some other unusual uses.

-Mike
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: 10764860@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (PAUL WALSH)
Subject: Re: Hearing
Keywords: hearing, deaf
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.132040.13626@news.columbia.edu> his7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Henry Shih) writes:
>From: his7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Henry Shih)
>Subject: Hearing
>Keywords: hearing, deaf
>Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:20:40 GMT
>Hello fellow pyros,
>
> [Lots of wrapped around text about Henry fearing he is going deaf]
>
>Thanks
>
>Henry Shih
>his7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
>

I once caused myself to go pretty much deaf for about three days. I 
understand how you feel but from what I have experienced you *should* find 
that it will get back to normal in 36 hours or so.

If you have serious doubts (which it seems you do) I suggest that you go and 
see a doctor...if you have problems after three days or so I would say 
certainly go see a doctor.

Good luck, Paul.
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins)
Subject: Chemical names and household names
Organization: None
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:58:47 GMT


>	Is there a FAQ that exists that equates the chemical names
>to household names?
>(ie. Sodium iodine == Table salt)

Actually: Sodium Chloride == Table salt, they add iodine to table salt
   so you get some iodine ions in your diet. Those ions come either
   from Sodium Iodide or Potassium Iodide

Here are some for you:   (*=a brand name from my neighborhood store)

Lye:                NaOH (Sodium Hydroxide)
Muriatic Acid:      HCl (Hydrochloric Acid) 
*Liquid Fire:       H2SO4 (Sulphuric Acid)
*Root Killer:       CuSO4-5H2O (Copper Sulphate PentaHydrate)
Tincture of Iodine: Iodine crystals dissolved in an alcohol
Denatured Alcohol:  Ethanol (and Methanol to make it undrinkable)
Sugar:              Sucrose (C12H22O11)
Vinegar:            Acetic acid
Aluminum foil:      Aluminum metal 
Ammonia:            Ammonium Hydroxide (NH4OH) with water
Clorox:             Usually a NaOCl mixture.
Steel Wool:         iron
baking soda:        NaHCO3 (Sodium Bicarbonate)
Washing Soda:       Na2CO3 (Sodium carbonate)
Blackboard chalk:   CaCO3  (Calcium Carbonate)
Lime:               CaO ? (Calcium Oxide - hard to find - rather reactive)
Sulphur:            S (sulphur - used in gunpowder)
Charcoal:           C (carbon - used in gunpowder)
Pencil Lead:        Graphite, a crystalline form of Carbon.
Milk of Magnesia:   Mg(OH)2 ?  (Magnesium Hydroxide)
Epsom Salts:        MgSO4   ?  (Magnesium Sulphate)
*Ice Melt:          CaCl2 or NaCl (Calcium Chloride or Sodium Chloride)
                    Note: CaCl2 has a *powerful* affinity for water.
*PhUP:              Phosphoric Acid (used to adjust PH in fishtanks).
Carbonated water:   Carbonic Acid (water with CO2 dissolved in it).
beach sand:         Silicon Dioxide.
Rust:               Iron Oxide (also known as Ferric Oxide) and water.
Water:              H2O (Hydrogen Hydoxide :-) )


I have seen a product that you mix with water and then pour on a tree
stump. Once it dries, you set it on fire and the stump burns away. I
don't recall the product name but the fine print said it was 
Potassium Nitrate KNO3 - (prime ingredient in gunpowder).


NOTE: Don't ever assume the household item is in the pure state. Usually
      the reverse is true. Thus lye often has aluminum particles in it
      to energize it. Household versions also often have binders, coloring 
      agents, odor control agents, detergents, cleaners, etc.

Hope that helps...

Joe
Usual disclaimers....

Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: jarmala@pcuf.fi (Ari J{rm{l{)
Subject: Re: How to get Parlon rubber? 
Organization: The PC-users of Finland
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:51:13 GMT

>I believe both KSI and Firefox sell Parlon.  I heard it may have
>been discontinued by the manufacturer though.  I believe it is/was
>used in latex paints and some other unusual uses.
 
After asking here and eager to get answers I made a brief inquiry
before Xmas among the companies known to produce chlorinated
rubber.
 
Parlon is the trade mark of the company Hercules. The production of
Parlon has stopped in 1988.
 
ICI has also produced chlorinated rubber. Their trade mark was
Alloprene. The production has stopped in 1992.
 
The only producer still on market in Europe is Bayer. Their trade
mark is Pergut. The plan is to stop the production within two
years.
 
The reason for these numerous stop downs is the Ozone Agreement:
carbon tetrachloride used in the production of chlorinated rubber
harms the ozone layer of the Earth. Thus, the production must be
stopped.
 
BTW, other trade marks for chlorinated rubber: Alloprene, Detel,
Duroprene, Parevar, Pergut, Raolin, Tegotan, Tretol.
 
I think that the Parlon containing formulations should be
reformulated in order to replace chlorinated rubber by other
binders and chlorine donors.
 
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Ari Jarmala (the three 'a's are umlauted),
     o             o
at 60 19'49" N   24 18'38" E
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Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: bbs.byron@tsoft.net (Byron Reynolds)
Subject: Rockets
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 07:08:14 GMT

Does anyone know of a good source for pre-made "model" rocket engines?
There's always ESTES corp...but their prices are high...even for 
quantity.
 
The ESTES B-6-2 engine makes great flash-bang rockets.  Simply scrape
away some of the clay from the parachute ejection side of the engine
and fill the empty space in the rocket motor casing with flash.   Cap off
with a 1/2" plug and glue, attach a stick, balance, insert fuse, and 
launch.  Fun Fun....great altitude, impressive report, reliable 
performance.

However, it's expensive...about $1.00 each for the engines...I'm looking
for CHEAP solutions.

--
Byron Reynolds (bbs.byron@tsoft.net)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: bbs.byron@tsoft.net (Byron Reynolds)
Subject: Teflon
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:35:34 GMT

I've heard that teflon powders are used for illumination and flash 
enhancers in both stars and flash compositions.  
 
Does anyone have experience with teflon?  How about some recipes?
 
One source claims that if 25% teflon powder by weight is added to a flash
cracker composition, the need for a sturdy casing is eliminated.  In 
fact, the source claims that no casing is needed, and that the powder 
will detonate when ignited in the open air.  Fact or Fiction?
 

--
Byron Reynolds (bbs.byron@tsoft.net)
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