HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com (William Dubie)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: I need InterNet, FTP, and EMail!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:42:02 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <SVEN.92Sep17135636@sonja.cs.widener.edu>, sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke) writes...
>In article <1992Sep17.041305.7322@newshost.unh.edu> K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa) writes:
>> How can I FTP, EMail, and use a news reader without a mainframe?
>> Is this possible?  Please help before I'm fated to wither and die without
>> my regular dose of computer!  Is this going to involve lots of $$$?
> 
>I think The World (617/739-9753 [telnet world.std.com]) and Netcom at
>(408/241-9760 [telnet netcom.com anywhere]) have access to usenet and
>email on unix computer for a price, would not hurt calling and asking.
>If you can deal with mail gateways instead of ftp find somebody local
>who is willing to give you a UUCP feed to your computer in your home.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>--
>sven@cs.widener.edu                               Widener X-CS system manager
>Sven Heinicke                                             and Student
>``Oooey GUI Rich and Chewy.''
> --Johnson & Reichard, _Advanced_X_Window_Applications_Programming_ (1990) 

Check out this month's (October '92) BYTE magazine, which has 
"Plugging Into the Internet" on page 149. It describes some of 
the options available.

William Dubie
dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation,
Littleton, Mass.

Standard disclaimer: These views don't necessarily
reflect those of Digital Equipment Corporation.
Newsgroups: comp.misc,misc.consumers,misc.education,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.invest,misc.jobs.misc,misc.legal,misc.misc,misc.taxes
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Re: Perot's "Platform" Posted to the Usenet
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:36:04 GMT

In article michaet@hubcap.clemson.edu (michael dale townsend) writes:
>In article hansm@cs.kun.nl (Hans Mulder) writes:
>>In noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:

>>>Carefully read this document before deciding on who you will vote for
>>>President come Election Day.  And of course, get off your kaziski (a.k.a.
>>>butt) and VOTE!

>>I'd love to.  Trouble is, there are no elections in my country this year.
>>Can I come over to your country and vote?

>[sarcasm on]
>WHAT?  You mean they have computers in other countries?  You mean the
>network is INTERNATIONAL???  Really?
>No wonder we are sometimes accused of being arrogant and ignorant! We 
>either don't know how to limit distribution to U.S., or we think
>everyone in the world needs to hear what we say!
>[sarcasm off]


In all seriousness, I intentionally posted this notice worldwide since the
outcome of U.S. Presidential elections does affect the world politics/economics
to some extent (maybe not like they did 20-30 years ago, but they do).  Also,
in this document, Mr. Perot discusses several foreign policy issues that are
definitely of interest to readers outside of the U.S.  My motivation for
posting the notice worldwide was strictly informational to our friends
outside the U.S., and not because of arrogance or anything like that.

The U.S. is no longer the "center of the universe", nor should it be.  We
are part of the world community.  However, because of our size and economic
strength, what goes on internally does/will significantly affect the rest
of the world - that is a fact of 1992.

BTW, I would like to see posted feedback from our friends outside of the U.S.
as to Ross Perot's "platform" and how it may affect them should he be elected
President (or, should I say, when he gets elected :^) ).

Jon Noring


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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mi
Subject: Re: Seagate ST-251 Help
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 23:04:36 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:

> Why are there so much complaints about Seagate drives?  I also have a
> ST251 from about five years ago.  It's still humming along happily
> in my brother's XT... (maybe i can sell it one of these days as
> an antique...)

I have one of 'em, too.  The only problems have been _very occasional_
failure to spin up on the first power-on (less than 10 total), and
having to redo the low level format after 2.5 years (but that happens
with almost any MFM drive).

It used to scream, too, but I flicked the tab a couple times and it
quit.  Overall, it's been very solid.
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
                      -- Mr Wiggen, of Ironside and Malone (Monty Python)
From: gjperkins@FNALA.FNAL.GOV (George J Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Suggestions Wanted: Public Domain Erotica/Censored Materi
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:37:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: fnnews.1b2r94INN8no
Reply-To: gjperkins@FNALA.FNAL.GOV
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <718569970snx@apusapus.demon.co.uk>, tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk
(Trevor Jenkins) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct7.222610.17164@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com writes:
>[...]
>> Whose law applies:
>
>> When we distribute in the United States, U.S. law applies.  When we
>> distribute to other countries, their law applies. That is why Peter
>> Pan is marked for US distribution only.  It is public domain in the
>> U.S. but not in the U.K.
>
>I was under the impression that Peter Pan was out of copyright in the UK.
>The tradition here is that those giving a performance of the play make over
>the proceeds to the "Great Ormond Street Hospital"; last year GOSH was
>worried that it's income would be dramticallly reduced as British theartes
>staged PP and kept the monies for themselves.

The paragraph before the one quoted referred to a rule of thumb for British
copyright of "death of author plus 50 years" (I have no idea as to whether
this is indeed the case now that the Berne Convention has been ratified).
Since Sir James M. Barrie died in 1937 (and "Peter Pan" dates from 1904),
it may be the case that the "public domain" dateline has just recently been
crossed.  Project Gutenberg should update its "public domain" definitions
to *explicitly* deal with any changes due to the Berne Convention, and
perhaps check to make sure that its examples are up-to-date.  (It is, of
course, entirely possible that for some reason "Peter Pan" has some special
status by Royal decree or Parliamentary dispensation or whatever -- if this
is the case, then it should be mentioned as being an exception rather than
as an example of the standard rule).

------------------------------------------------------------------------
George J Perkins     perkins@msupa.pa.msu.edu    gjperkins@fnal.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.text
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: Origin of QWERTY
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:52:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.082344.4344@dde.dk> ct@dde.dk (Claus Tondering) writes:
>It is frequently claimed that the QWERTY-keyboard was originally
>designed so that frequently used letter combinations were close together.

My understanding is that the keyboard layout was deliberately designed to
*slow* the typist down; the early manual typewriters could not handle
much speed.


kbq

--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
From: kbowles@den.mmc.com (mac bowles)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Can't you run unix on a 386?
Summary: YES
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:35:10 GMT
Expires: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver

In article <1992Oct14.181002.17295@pencom.com> twriter1@pencom.com writes:
>
>I repeat:
>	"Can't you run unix on a 386?"
>
>BTW--To anybody who responded to my previous post
>on building a computer Thanks a mil!

Of course you can. There are several flavors, SCO having at least two types (that's
Santa Cruz Operation, a company that makes unix for PC platforms). There are others
out there whose names I can't recall at the moment but I seem recall some name 
with an A and two T's in it, I think. Then of course, there is the only affordable
version which some argue is not Unix - Coherent. I think you can still get it for 
$99 a copy. I think the company name is Mark White or something like that.

________________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.misc,news.misc,comp.society.futures,alt.amateur-comp
From: bgdw357@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: Help needed with Communications and Computers
Organization: University of Texas @ Austin
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:54:21 CST

In article <1992Oct5.155702.23075@news.columbia.edu>, hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben) writes:
> 
> 	I am taking a Computers & Society Class right now and
> need to figure out what would be important to write my term paper
> about. I am also thinking of proposing a major or concentration
> on Computers & Society. For this paper I am thinking about
> writing on the progressive impact computers have had on
> communications. So, I would appreciate any references or
> suggestions anyone might have to offer. By suggestions I mean
> what people think would be a worthwhile question in the
> combination of computers and communications that would be worth
> focusing on. 
> 
> The Following are just notes I made to myself. But if you feel
> there is a way further to build on them, please let me know.
> 
> 	Thanks!
> 	-Michael    hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
> 
> Paper Topic Ideas for Computer & Society
> 
> My paper will focus on the developing role and importance of
> telecommunications ( or maybe the combination of computer and
> communication technology.) Possible topics would be:
> 
> 1) The Equalitarian role computers play in communications. (How
> conferencing + bbses allow animosity and thus remove many
> intimidations putting ideas in the front. Also because asychorous
> allows as many people as possible to participate in whatever
> timeframe. Basically allows anyone who wants to speak the right
> to speak.) Facilitation of freedom of speech
> 
> 2) How computer networks facillitate the transfer of information
> and flow of information. More specific?
> Spreading information to a wider body of people. allowing people
> to become more educated.
> 
> 3) Making the world a smaller place...allowing for new
> international communities to form. (based on common interests,
> backgrounds, or abilities.)
> 
> 4)What Usenet is and what it might or could become, or what
> direction it is going in. What potential exists.
> 
> -------
> 
> Or is my question: did telecommunications help bring the berlin
> wall down and the events in eastern europe.
> Also remember how students in China (Tianiman Square) and France
> utilized the new telecommunications technologies.
From: twriter1@pencom.com
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Can't you run unix on a 386?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:10:02 GMT
Reply-To: twriter1@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

That's the question.  I bought the book "Build your
own 386 and save a bundle."  He doesn't list
unix as one of the possible operating systems.

I repeat:
	"Can't you run unix on a 386?"

BTW--To anybody who responded to my previous post
on building a computer Thanks a mil!
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: redmond@engr.wisc.edu (Mike Redmond)
Subject: Help to find historical trend information (computers)
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:03:52 CDT
Originator: redmond@hobie.engr.wisc.edu


I have been looking for historical trend data about a wide range of
measures. I found just about everything I needed for time-series
statistics in a machine readable spreadsheet/database package from
CoWorks Corporation called the CoWorks Time Series Library. I found
statistics/series for GNP, world population, number of degrees granted,
number of prisoners, etc. A really broad spectrum of time series data.

There are still a few areas that I did not find in CoWorks. These are:

Statistics on computing capability per dollar time series including
MIPS/$, RAM bits/$ and Mass storage bits/$.

Statistics on banking transactions per period (day, month, year) in
time series.

Statistics on number of reservations (probably airline) per period.

I could use some help in finding appropriate sources for getting time
series data in these areas. If anyone has any leads of good sources for
these statistics and time series info, let me know.

Thanks

Mike Redmond (redmond@engr.wisc.edu)
Director  CAE, UW Madison
(608)-263-1584


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From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.misc
Subject: Re: Seagate ST-251 Help
Date: 14 Oct 1992 09:14:43 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct13.154430.19436@krfiny.uucp> jeffj@krfiny.uucp (J. Jonas) writes:
>>prone to stiction . Seagate?? Never again. Not on your life.
>>
>>My Mitsubishi model 535 65mb RLL is quieter, cooler, and never sticks.
>
>I've has a Seagate ST251 and ST225 die quite quickly and without warning.

Why are there so much complaints about Seagate drives?  I also have a
ST251 from about five years ago.  It's still humming along happily
in my brother's XT... (maybe i can sell it one of these days as
an antique...)

I haven't had any problems since i acquired it... maybe i should consider
myself lucky or something... 

David Shy
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.mail.misc
From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: HELP WITH SUM PARTITION ON MAC- URGENT!
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 02:56:34 GMT

HELP!

I was changing, rather removing the pasword on my 4mb parition on my Mac
with Sum Partition when the power was cut and then when I came back I found
that I can't open my partition with the new (none) password and I can;t enter
with the old password either.  I REALLY need what is in there.. please help
me!

-Noah Cole
--
ncole@nyx.cs.j- NOT
NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: qwerty@drutx.ATT.COM (Brian Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.text
Subject: Re: Origin of QWERTY
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:30:54 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver

in article <1992Oct14.150232.53281@clinicom.com>, john@clinicom.com (John Hensley) says:
> Xref: drutx comp.misc:16666 comp.text:9605
> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
> 
> I had read once that the QWERTY keyboard layout was designed when humans so
> outpaced manual typewriters, that they had to be slowed down -- hence the 
> awkward layout, and the raison d'etre of the Dvorak keyboard, which is more
> efficient.
> -- 
> John Hensley           |
> john@clinicom.com      | Chicken train, running all day --
> jhensley@nyx.cs.du.edu |      can't get on, can't get off.

The key is that humans outpaced the original designs of the typewriter.  The
QWERTY keyboard is efficient for both typists and mechanical typewriters.

Frequently used combinations of letters are kept on opposite hands.  This
allows the typist to overlap finger movement and key press motions.  On a
mechanical typewriter, keeping the keys on opposite sides meant that the
currently typed key did not have to fall all the way back to avoid
interfering with the next key coming from the opposite side.  Keys coming
from the same side had to be allowed to fall almost all of the way back,
which slowed the typist down.  Very few things are developed to impede
productivity.  The QWERTY keyboard increased productivity in a mechanical
system.  With electronic keyboards, the problems that spawned the QWERTY
keyboard are non-existent.  However, the concept of allowing the motions
of the hands to overlap is still valid.
-- 

Brian Jones  aka  {att,allegra}!{drutx}!qwerty  @  AT&T, Denver
(303) 538-2589
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From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Perot's "Platform" Posted to the Usenet
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 10:18:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.201739.4839@asl.dl.nec.com> alie@csl.dl.nec.com (Andrew Lie) writes:
>Come to think of it, I have been receiving postings which Distribution had been
>set to the states of the originators which were different from the state I am
>in (i.e., Texas). Does anyone know why?
>  ____________________________________________________________________________

Because your news administrator has chosen to accept those distributions
from wherever he/she gets the news feed. If I chose to, I could get the
local New Zeland groups from uunet.

Some sites may get groups that are non-local local groups so that they
can feed them on down the line to a site that they are actually addressed
to.

Look at the "path" sometimes in your news headers -- news distribution is
often very zig-zag across the map -- not as the crow flies.


orville

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Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.misc,uky.misc
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: Seagate ST-251 Help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:33:55 GMT


In article <1992Oct7.184542.21928@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
>I am preparing to purchase a ST-251 60meg Rll drive.  I recall about amonth  
>ago I saw numerous postings abuot a number of problems that people had with  
>one of seagates ds. I was wondering if anyone recalls which model it was.

Well, if you're planning to format an ST-251 as a 60 Mb RLL drive, you
most probably will have problems.

The ST-251 is a 40Mb MFM drive. It is not designed for RLL use.
Although you can format it using an RLL controller, you may or may not
experience problems. I speak from the experience of formatting an ST-225
(20Mb MFM drive) as a 30Mb RLL drive. It worked, but the error rate was
quite high. Sectors went bad frequently, and much data was lost.

RLL-capable drives from Seagate generally have an R suffix in the name,
e.g. the ST-238R(30Mb), or the ST-277R (60Mb). This distinguishes them
from similar MFM drives (ST-225, ST-251).

Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.misc,uky.misc
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Seagate ST-251 Help
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: na 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:10:49 GMT

In <1992Oct7.184542.21928@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:

>I am preparing to purchase a ST-251 60meg Rll drive.  I recall about amonth  
>ago I saw numerous postings abuot a number of problems that people had with  
>one of seagates ds.  I was wondering if anyone recalls which model it was.   
>Also, if anyone has any advice on purcahsing the ST-251 I would appreciate  
>it.  I currently have a 40meg Rll and would like to have both the 40 and the  
>60 in operation at the same time.  This is possible right?  What do I need to  
>do to configure my system.  I have a 386sx/16 with a 1.2MB and 1.44MB if that  
>helps.  I really would appreciate any advice you have!

>John

I am not certain that the Seagate 251 can do RLL, I think you need
the 251-1 model. That said, I have a 251 in my basement that makes
a nice paperweight. Some days it will spin-up - some days it wont.
The 'wont' days are usually the day after you install it in a case
and load it with software :-(. Some of the 251 models were notorious
for an effect called 'sticktion', where the heads actually stick to
the surface of the platters. Then the spindle motor cannot generate
enough torque to get the disks moving. Shame, cause it is reasonably
quiet and quick. However, my Rodime 3055 makes me forget the 251 :-),
now there is a nice puppy and generally available for approx. $175 to
$200.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: pinesoft@netcom.com (Pine Software)
Subject: Re: Wanted: PC Email on Windows for Unix Mail
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:05:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.021950.25454@iti.gov.sg> jinho@iti.gov.sg (Tan Jin Ho) writes:
>
>I am looking for an MS Windows-based Email application program that runs on
>top of standard PC TCP/IP networks and uses SMTP and/or POP. (ie. it can
>read and send UNIX mail).
>
>Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
>jinho@iti.gov.sg

We at Pine software have developed a package which works with the three
most popular TCP/IP stacks, PCNFS, FTP's PCTCP, and Wollongong's WINTCP
other TCP/IP packages are to be supported soon. I will include the 
recent product announcement below, other


Date: 8/5/92 
PINE SOFTWARE
PO Box 3041 Stanford, CA  94309
(415) 962-8687 e-mail, pinesoft@netcom.com (Internet) 

Pine Software, Inc. is pleased to introduce Open Systems Mail(TM) 
for Microsoft(TM) Windows(TM).  Open Systems Mail is a fully 
featured, easy-to-use electronic mail application designed or IBM 
PCs and compatibles running Microsoft Windows/DOS-based TCP/IP 
client protocols.  This product is one of the only elec-tronic mail 
products for MS Windows that truly conforms to open systems and 
standards (SMTP, TCP/IP, RFCs).


The following is a list of  planned future enhancements:


    - Program icon will indicate arrival of new mail while minimized

    - Tool and status bar for improved functionality and ease-of-use

    - Allow user to send and receive binary attachments in accordance
      with MIME specification

    - A new version designed for use with portable computers and modems

    - A Macintosh equivalent for MacTCP

Open Systems Mail_ is available now, directly from Pine Software.  
Please contact us for more information.
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