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From: pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Peter Mckinney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Recording steree 44Khz,, 16bit? Disk can't keep up.
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Peter Mckinney)
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

In article <benanav.715966246@earth.njit.edu>, benanav@earth.njit.edu
(Dan Benanav) writes:
> 
> Using my PAS16 and the pocket recorder I found that I am unable
> to record in stereo, 44KHz and 16bit because the hard drive
> is unable to write fast enough.
> 
> Is there a way around this problem?
> 
> 
> I think it works using a ramdrive but I only have 4Mb and
> that only records for a short time.
> 
> 
>                           Dan


There a few ways to tweak a bit more performace out of a slower
hard drive:

1. "Optimize" the disk - use a program that puts all files on one
section of the disk and leaves one large space open for new files.
Such a program may also reorganize all files so that each file
currently on the disk is written in contiguous blocks.  Examples
are Spinrite by Gibson Research, The Norton Utilities. 

2. A read/write cache often helps, depending upon how the program
writes to disk.  A good one comes with Microsoft Windows (smartdrv)
and there is also a shareware program out called hyperdisk or
something like that.

3. Check to make sure your interleave is set optimally.  This only
applies to older disks as far as I know (pre-IDE, such as MFM).
The interleave can be optimized for a given disk-cpu pair.  Programs
such as spinrite can often do this without destroying the data on the
disk.  There are a number of prep programs out there to set the
inteleave that will necessitate an entire reloading of your software,
however.  I think there is a bit of code in many AMI bois' that will
do this.  There are also shareware programs for both non-destructive and
destructive reformatting I believe...... 

Good luck with the sampling.

					- Pete McKinney
					- pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
From: swesterback@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: ThunderBoard Windows 3.1 driver?
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:14:35 GMT

Hi!

Can anybody tell me where i can find a driver for windows 3.1 that supports
the ThunderBoard soundcard? As it is now it uses the normal soundblaster 
driver but, if i am correct, the card supports stereo sounds. When i tried
to play an stereo MID-file using the media player it told me that my current
driver doesn't support stereo.

Also, i would like to know if there is some good program (preferrably PD)
that can convert between, at least, the following music filetypes:
WAV, VOC, MID, ROL, SFI

Thank you!

Sten

Eighter post followups here or send me emails and i will post a summary if
wanted.
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From: g89s9058@hippo.ru.ac.za (Shae-Guevara)
Subject: Re: List of known PC Sound Cards
Keywords: FAQ
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:23:29 GMT

In <1992Sep7.162524.2752@news.acns.nwu.edu> davecole@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Cole) writes:

>August 1992 
> 
>List of Sound Cards/Devices for ISA computers 
>prices are from recent ads or reports; see vendor list at end 
>I will try to keep this somewhat up to date.
> 
>comments, corrections, rumors, updated and useful info to:
>dcole@ua.d.umn.edu 

I  have  an  Adlib  compatible  (and on the box it says "sound
blaster  chip  compatible"  -  yeah, right) card called the PC
symphony card.

Barry

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell)
Subject: Re: FTP sites vaporizing
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:09:32 GMT

In article <140870001@hpcvra.cv.hp.com> everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser) writes:
>I recently tried FTPing to paladine.jcu.edu.au to try to access sound stuff,
>but got "unknown host".  Anyone know what happened to it?  Better address?
>
>Also, tried FTPing to tybalt.cco.caltech.edu and got "no longer available for
>general logins.  Use ccosun instead."  I tried tybalt.ccosun.caltech.edu and
>ccosun.cco.caltech.edu but no go.  Anyone know what address to try?

Try "ccosun.caltech.edu"--I got in anonymously, but I'm not sure
it's the site you're looking for or not.

Ryan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: jthornto@ee.ubc.ca (Johan Thornton)
Subject: Re: Gravis prices
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:42:28 GMT

In article <Auto2.6@> Auto2@ (Orakel) writes:
>HI,
>
>Gravis sent me a Fax about a month ago, and they gave me the specifications
>for the Ultra Sound. At that time they werenot sure how much they should
>charge for the daughter boards. Anyone know what they will cost, especially
>the 16 bit recording.
>
>Morten Eriksen - The Bogeyman / Twilight Zone

Word is, under $100US.

l8r.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: bdmccorm@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bob McCormick)
Subject: Re: SB programming
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23:12:16 GMT

lehtonen@krk.fi (Antti Lehtonen) writes:


>	My friend is looking for some info how to program
>	SB or SBpro on turbo C ??. Is it sed in some kind
>	of FAQ? Send the FAQ anyway.


Try ftp'ing to tybalt.cco.caltech.edu and look in the /pub/heathh/sb
directory.


Bob McCormick
s1lu6@starburst.uscolo.edu
bdmccorm@nyx.cs.du.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: MIDI PROBLEMS -- TAKE 2 <<--HELP AGAIN!
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:24:20 GMT

OK, I finally got my Music Quest midi card working... kinda.
I am now able to send/receive all kinds of performance data
to and from my PC. 
I am even able to use midiex.exe to send SysEx data to my synth.

BUT, I am *unable* to RECEIVE System Exclusive data from my synth
to my PC! (I can only SEND!)

What is the deal with this?
I'ts pretty important I find out very soon, as I need some sysex data
in PC format within the next week!

Any info appreciated.


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From: jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundblaster question
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:27:02 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

The Pro models are newer and 16-bit cards.  The plain Blaster is only a
8-bit card, but it's the standard & it seems to work OK even on 486s. 
For game purposes, get the plain, cheap SB - and remember, the CMS
circuits are there just to make the board more expensive (no use in game
purposes). 

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From: f1toyl@uta.fi (Topi Ylinen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Soundblaster FTP sites wanted!
Keywords: soundblaster ftp site
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:34:43 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland


I am still looking for good sites with good PD music software, especially
ones that support Soundblaster (/Ad Lib). My first and foremost need is some
easy-to-use music editor with still a sensible set of features like ProTracker
on Amiga. I have heard is a PC conversion of PT.

Anyone knowing any good FTP site to try please email me! Much appreciated.
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From: lu@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Zhengfang Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:37:42 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

>I am dying to see a 32 channels MOD player with 16 bit samples at 44 Khz.

A .MOD file comprises only 4 channels (from the Amiga) comprised of
samples.  The 32 voices on the Gravis card are FM synthesized not DAC's.
MODs are only 12 bits or 10, not sure which, NOT 16, and probably not
sampled at 44 Khz.

Lu.
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From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Dion Francois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:37:08 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Sep10.154518.21058@lclark.edu> harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison) writes:
>
>I just got off the phone with Gravis.  Contrary to previous reports, they
>still havn't shipped.  The salesman told me they are on a day to day
>release schedual.  They are waiting for the software.  He said that it
>probably won't be this week.  When I pressed about next week, he said
>"Maybe."  The hardware is finished, and I think everything else is also,
>just that dang software.  It better be awesome after all this waiting.  If
>anyone is interested, their number is 1-800-663-8558.
>
Last friday night and today also (monday) the distributors are not expecting
anything before the 21st of september. It's the 4th release date quoted by the
distributor... Well, Creative Labs SBPro-16 is starting to do the same! The
release date was originaly in late august, then beginning of september, then
late september. At Ingram they wont expect it till late 4th quarter (read
christmas).

The thing they should do is release the damn card with all technical specs so
that everybody who are in the demo/shareware/freeware/underware 8) business
could do their applications for the gravis specs. I am dying to see a 32
channels MOD player with 16 bits samples and 44Khz!!! drool ! (Pour les
lecteurs francophone: J'en bave! ). Then we would have lots of programs for the
card. Also, i don't understand what software is lacking because some developpers
have the emulators, the midi file player and other stuff like that.

Last, someone was inquiring about memory upgrade: they are simple 44256 type
of chips so you need 6 of them on top of the 2 on board to have 1 Meg ram. And
yes it is sufficient.

Ciao,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: EA/Gravis Ultrasound offer
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:41:35 GMT

In article <oefKkWK00WB6FIh6cl@andrew.cmu.edu> Nicolas Alejandro Arauz <na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>That sounds pretty fantastic, $99 for the UltraSound.  How much is the
>sound card without this offer?  I'd figure it would be somewhere near
>the PAS-16, in the $200+ range?  Thanks!

I've heard that it was retailing for as low as $120 separate from the
EA offer.

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
Subject: Re: Thunderboard noise problems
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 10:21:29 GMT

Is the PAS-16 100% compatible with SB Pro, e.g. can it be passed off as an
SB Pro?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tbt@polari.online.com
Subject: SBPMIX30 under Windows 3.0 (WIN/OS2)
Keywords: SB
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:47:18 GMT

I just downloaded SBPMIX30 from the Creative labs BBS, and tried to install it
in WINOS2.  After installing the DLL and running SBPMIX30, I get a message 
telling me that it could not load the driver and to check my WIN.INI.  Does 
anyone know what the settings for the WIN.INI should be?

Thanks
-Tom
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From: ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: EA/Gravis Ultrasound offer
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:38:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <10100@cg-atla.UUCP>, pasky@cg-atla.UUCP (Robert Pasky) writes:

>One more note (to discourage all of you from swamping EA with
>orders so I'll have a chance at the first batch of 100 ;-)):
>"None of the games in this offer take full advantage of Gravis'
>capabilities" (EA salesperson approx. quote). I.e., they are
>AdLib/SB compatible, period. But you knew that, didn't you.
>
>-- Bob

Didn't EA rewrite Chuck Yeager Air Combat just for the Ultrasound? If anyone
can confirm this, how's it better? Perhaps his on-mission hints can be heard???

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Philip Schlesinger)
Subject: MOD ftp sites?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 04:42:12 GMT

Hi I'm looking for MOD ftp sites of all types: classical, industrial, house,
techno, etc.  Please email to me and/or post (other readers of mail might want
these also...) to this group, if possible...

Thanks in Advance, Phil

schles@cs.jhu.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth,alt.emusic
From: huston@mksol.dseg.ti.com (william a huston)
Subject: pinout for PAS16 MIDI/game port wanted
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Keywords: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 pinout MIDI missing-info
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:10:14 GMT

The pinout for the DB15 on the PAS16 (MIDI/gameport) does 
not appear to be in any of the docs. I don't know how much 
the optional "Midi-mate" costs, but heck, it's just a cable
and I gotta be able to build it fer less.

Does anyone have this? (EMAIL please!!)

Thanks,
Bill

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Help recording/playing back voice
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:06:53 GMT

I have an application where I need to digitize voice, process it,
and then send it back out (not real time). I want to do this in a single
program (as opposed to using available utilities). I currently have a
SoundBlaster Pro, but am considering upgrading later. A few questions:

-Is there an available device driver or library for SBP under MS/DOS
(as opposed to windows) that I can use for this. I want to link it
into a C program.

-Where can I find out how to use the ADC's and DAC's? I have found doc's
at FTP sites on how to program the FM synthesizer, but nothing on the
DAC's and ADC's.

-If I upgrade now, it would be to a 16 bit card. Is there any 16 bit card
out there (in the consumer price range - <$250) that I can get at
with programs. I have read the problems with lack of programming info
for the PAS-16, but are there libraries for it? When will the SB-16
be available? How much longer until programming libraries and info
will be available?
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From: ncpmont@angelo.amd.com (Mark Montgomery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS-16, How to record CD clips??
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:10:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

Having all of 3 days experience with my new PAS-16, I may be lost
in the trees looking for the forest but I'll be darned if I can
see how (using the MediaVision supplied software) one can control
an external CD reader to play a selected section of an audio disk
and control the PAS-16 to record said section for later use and
manipulation.  Am I missing the obvious?  If not and this really
isn't possible with their software, does there exist any P.D. or
low cost commercial stuff to do this??
		Confused but having fun,  Mark
					  (ncpmont@amd.com)
From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: What to buy????? HELP!
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:24:34 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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The following is my opinion and I'm not setting myself up as an expert!

>1. Music for games...
>2. Speech ...
>3. Playing .WAV (and other) files ...
>4. MIDI - so I can use Cakewalk with the card to control a synth....
>5. Recording ability ...

I choose the Soundblaster Pro Basic kit, but I didn't need MIDI, so
I purchased the one without it.  I later upgraded to use the CD-ROM that
the SB Pro supports.  This seemed a reasonable approach for the money.
Others may have better paths (my goal was soundcard and CD-ROM).

Mark Runyan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: bdmccorm@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bob McCormick)
Subject: Re: programmer's models for soundcards
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23:29:00 GMT

kerl@cmack.b11.ingr.com (Dan Kerl) writes:

>I'm looking for programming information for the more-popular soundcards 
uch as
>the Soundblaster Pro.  This would include memory and I/O maps, register
>descriptions, etc.  Short of actually purchasing the products themselves
 are
>there any sources of this information (PC Sourcebook)?

>					Thanks,

>					Dan Kerl
>					kerl@cmack.b11.ingr.com



Try ftp'ing to tybalt.cco.caltech.edu and look in the /pub/heathh/sb
directory.  There's lot's of Sound Blaster programming info and even C
source code.  I

If your really serious about Sound Blaster Programming you should
subscribe to the Sound Blaster Mailing List.  It's an email list devoted
solely to Sound Blaster Programming.  Send a message to
listserv@porter.geo.brown.edu  . Your message should have no subject and
the body ob the message should consist of the command <

subscribe blaster yourname

where yourname would be your actually name!  


Bob McCormick
s1lu6@starburst.uscolo.edu
bdmccorm@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: gt2862c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2862c THAM,JEFF C)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:23:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <jl9y04=@rpi.edu> hsiaoe@aix.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao) writes:

>Actually, with the recent aquisition of Origin by EA, maybe future Ultimas
>and Strike Commander will support the Ultrasound. 

Is this true? I hope not. EA will turn Origin into just another game clone
maker, instead of an innovator like they are now.

Jeff
From: gt2862c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2862c THAM,JEFF C)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: MIDI connector on soundcards
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:15:02 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Does anyone know how compatible the MIDI connectors on the current
generation of soundcards are? I have a Roland MT-32 and a Thunderboard.
What I would like to do is to hook up the MT-32 to a soundcard's MIDI
connector so I can save a slot. Is that possible with a Thunderboard?
What card(s) support this feature? Thanks in advance!

Also, for those of you with MT-32/LAPC-1's, what kind of amp/speakers are
you using? I am not at a point where I can get buy a stereo just for using
a sound module yet, so I am looking for a inexpensive setup. I've been
using a pair of Labtec CS-150 speakers, but they're just too soft even with
the volume cranked up. Again, thanks in advance!

Jeff

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tsthomas@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Better Sound Recorder for Win???
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:25:32 MDT

	Does anyone know where I can get a better Sound Recorder for Windows
v3.1... I'm currently using the sound recorder that comes with the windows
package to record WAV sounds but, I'm looking for something with more options!

						Thanks!
						tsthomas@happy.colorado.edu
From: gunthar@milton.u.washington.edu (John Jacobson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: How to hook up the PC-speaker
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:22:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep6.202258.18575
Organization: U of Washington


I have read the directions in the back of the SBPro Manual about connecting the
PC-speaker out to the SBPro card and am a little confused.  It says to hook it
up to Jumper 1 (JP1) on the card but one problem.  The PC-speaker out has four
connections and the JP1 connection on the card has only two.  Which pins
do I use, from the motherboard,  out of the four ????

If I am unclear flog me ??

I have an ISA386-40 Cascade Motherboard  and an SBPro (Old Type, Not yamaha)

Thanks for any help y'all provide...

                                           John
From: james@sol1.poly-east-london.ac.uk (James Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: From: kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla)
Date: 15 Sep 1992 08:52:23 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla) writes:
>
>Hmmmm.
>
>Maybe it'd be better to wait and see what the deal with the SB16 is
>before I plunk down money to support a company who claims to support
>an open system and doesn't.

yeah, I looked at the various soundcards available and thought that the PAS16
is the best one that is actually shipping at the moment in my price range.
But if there are major legal hassles with getting information on programming,
its not worth it.

Im not any big advocate of free software or anything- it's just that because
of this the PAS16 isnt the attractive product I thought it was