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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE%IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Another Doctor coming out of the shadows...
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              6 Apr 1992 17:51:00 GMT from <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>

On Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:51:00 GMT WERTSJ said:
>       -- Another female sports fan (Cubs fan since childhood)
   I'm sorry....my sympathies...

>**********************************************
>Jill Werts      (wertsj%dialog@mci.com)
>Dialog Information Services
>   (...uh-oh, it's another librarian!)
>**********************************************

 Next thing you know it'll be a CONSPIRACY!

re the cubbies....those poor little sad lonely, sickly bears....I have
a daughter who is actually a fan....corrupted by one of my sisters and
her cubfan husband....but one of her two sons is smart enough to be a
white sox fan....

one of my brothers, who has season tickets to sox games, and GOOD seats, too,
just sent an ad to me and the other siblings (six of us)....it had
a picture of his son on it....and said "8 year old boy for sale" and
listed his various fine qualities...and that all offers were to be
considered.....


reason?   His son was just put on a little league team named the ....c..u...b..
...s....


so far, no one has made any offers....which figures....

dan in potatoland...one of the liberrians, of course....
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (38)

Comforteth    torkel@SICS.SE

>   (Assuming you meant to write "makes sense":) This isn't surprising
                                        ^^^^^ [you are correct]
> at all. There isn't really any difference to speak of between French
> and English. Or English and Norwegian and German. They're pretty much
> the same language. It's perfectly possible to read lots of French
> without knowing a word of French. Thai or Russian is a different
> matter - they're not quite the same as English.

     Whew, for a minute there I was afraid I had learned something
that year.

The Ronin
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET%UGA.CC.UGA.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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> Like understanding exactly which muscles are doing what when you're
> walking?  I guess that might be helpful in some way, although I'm not
> really sure.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

No, no--more like being able to walk, and then learning how to skip, or
the steps of a dance.

I understood Adam's argument, although the way he went about it is not
the only way.  In order to be a good writer, there is a necessary
process of objectification of language.  You need to divorce your ego
from your writing, and treat the words as manipulable objects.

I'm not sure how this is related to speech, though.

Karen
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Missing Mail
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> This posting is to keep you from panicking at the thought you might have
> missed something important yesterday. :-)
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Us?  Panic?  As well-adjusted and non-addictive as we are?  You must be
kidding!
ndh
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From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN%BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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Evelyn

Leslie Gore's song didn't give me that same feeling of
vindication.

Don
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From:         Bill Sjostrom <TA0WXS1%NIU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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>> You can always count on college kids.  20 names, and only who has
>> anything to say, and she is 16 on the list.
>>                               Bill Sjostrom
>
>Welcome back, Bill! How was France? and did the E.S.S.E.C. live up to your
>expectations?
>                     Emily

My post was so grouchy, I didn't even need to sign it, everyone would
have known who sent it.  France was lovely.  The French are much
nicer than I was led to believe.  E.S.S.E.C. is a great place.  No
tenure.  People have to work for a living there, unlike here.  I want
the job, but the odds are I won't get it.
                                    Bill Sjostrom
P.S.  Karen, I didn't say Mother Theresa was a great speaker, only
that she had something worth saying.  You want entertaining, get
Robin Williams.
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: nouns

>>The worst fate of all is the nilpotent joke.
>
>>tushar

>---Aaargh!  This makes Two!
>
>---bayla

Duhhh?

tushar
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: jones/ethnicities

Querieth      Les Buhite

> (I saw the original answer to the "Jones" question, but my smutty
> little brain read it as "withdrawal penis"!  Is there a word (besides
> dyslexia) for such misreadings?)

     Wishful thinking?

The Ronin
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ODDS 'N' ENDS

> The negation of a meaningless statement doesn't strike me as baffling.

It strikes me as meaningless.

>Maybe somebody else will say what I'm trying to say.  Bye till later...

I will wait for that.

tushar
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Re: econometrics

Tushar attempts to solve my existence proof question:

"Hah.  Follows trivially from compactness."

EEEENT!  Note that I said *closed*, not *compact*.  The input
requirement set is not bounded, because given any production plan
(_y_, _x_) where _y_ is a vector of outputs and _x_ is a vector of
inputs, there will always be another production plan (_y_,_x_+_d_),
where _d_ >> _0_, that also allows me to produce _y_.  (Just throw
the _d_ away.)  Therefore _x_ + _d_ is also in the input requirement
set for _y_.

Try again.

Steve Karlson (BBA, MA, PhD, LGYC, and senior theorist)
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: BWP Stats 4/8/92 *The Ronin Takes the Gold!*

> What I want to know is, why am I listed under three addresses, when
> I, unlike Natalie, Don Roby, Anne Harwell, and others, only have one
> measly address.

That's something I've never figured out about the stats lists.  Surely
somebody on this list knows the answer.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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>      And this too can become a boomerang for the parents.  Sadly, my
> mother was never 'good enough' to be acceptable to me, either.
> Something else to work on.
>
> The Ronin

My situation was different...I thought my mother was *so* cool...still do.
 She's 79, and the last few years she's slowed down a little bit...which
makes it possible for the rest of us to come close to catching up with her
  Very busy, very active...she sees something that needs to be done and
*does* it, while people like me are still sitting around thinking about
whether it should be done and how it should be done.  When she was 65
she almost singlehandedly got a senior citizens center built in her
little town because she felt sorry for the "old" people in the 80s and
90s.  My mother the activist...I'm so proud of her.
ndh
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE%IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:10:00 EDT Captain CAAAAAAVEMAN!!!!! said:
>> descriptions.  Sometimes I even do the crossword in pen.
>> --Adam
>>
>        Heavens!  How can you live with yourself?!  Pen!!!!

Is there any other way?  I don't even OWN any pencils.  Pens or nothing.
I also don't own a watch.  Life is wonderful without any stupid pens or
watches.

dan in potatoland, whose biological clock is telling him to go to bed
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Voices on the list

From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

|>>     Not to diminish Ms. Harwell when she is crossing from the right,
|>>but I think this was more like showing up to a tag-team match without
|>>one's team.
|>>
|>>The Ronin
|>
|>Or pants, for that matter.  Actually, the image of a gang-mower comes to mind
|>in this case.
|>
|>Chris
|
|I was willing to let the first insult go by...The Ronin thinks I'm not a team
|player? Pshaw! I love teams!
|
|And whazzis? I don't wear pants?

     The Ronin will allow the Lobstrosity to explain why he dreams of
Anne not wearing pants.  I know better than to intervene in such.  But
The Ronin was not implying that Anne was not a team player.  Quite the
opposite.  Hers was another in a series of blows.  I was attempting to
imply that the time-out was appropriate in part because the person in
question was mildly outnumbered.

     I now return you to your mental images of Anne, without pants,
playing with the team.

The Ronin
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ODDS 'N' ENDS

> Graham writes:
>
>   >Natalie's meaning has been perfectly clear all along.  She concludes
>   >no such thing.  She was saying that if human culture degenerated to
>   >such a state, there would be nothing wrong in the language paralleling
>   >it by reducing to a system of grunts.
>
>   You're failing to take into account the course of the argument. I have
> emphasized that it has not been suggested by me that there is anything
> wrong with a system of grunts.

If Graham has failed to take into account the course of the argument,
I have also.  I meant to send a reply to Graham's posting last night,
adding him to the Franks and Judith as somebody who understood what I
was saying.  Now I'm not at all sure what we're debating.  A normal person
would therefore cease to debate.  I, however, have often continued list
debates even when I hadn't the slightest idea what we were talking about.
So I'll probably continue. :-)  I'll be slowed down again today, however,
by boring things like work.  Oh to win PCH Sweepstakes and stay at my
computer all day...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Subject: Re: clambake -> cajun music
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:22:30
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In-reply-to: Judith Schrier's message of Sat, 4 Apr 1992 15:52:25 EST

Miz Judit sais:

   Gubert asks me:
   >
   >What kind of music does this "Cajun" band play?
   >
   >Wegoin have furtrue fa do do?
   Yah, we gon have real fais do do. The guys don play zydeco,
   they downhome Yankee Cajuns. John and Dave are from Rhode
   Island, while Laren is from around Worcester, MA, a regular
   hotbed of displaced Acadians. Of which Laren is not one, but
   ah, well.


How 'bout Mary Chapin Carpenter avec Beausoleil own da Gra-meez, hein?
Laissez les bon-temps rouler!  

//anne, who just *melted* when Dennis Quaid said "cher" in "The Big Easy"//
From: TONY%VM1.MCGILL.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Tony Harminc)
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Date: 10 Apr 92 18:02:23 GMT
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On Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:36:13 MST Dan Lester said:

>I won't be back til tues nite late.  as of now don't expect to get laptop
>with me,

I certainly won't!  I'll leave that to Gail.

Tony H.
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: re : fresh meat
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>pit-bulls. Don't worry about me. I will suffer through it somehow.


Tushar,

We're not worried. We still love you.

-abh
and we want to know why you aren't wearing any pants
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG%MCIMAIL.COM@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: food (was re: Jones)

>Maybe it had to do with the potato famine; my dad says that he's never
>seen people more involved with food than computer people, except for
>Baptists. :-)

>Evelyn

...or maybe librarians ;-)

Jill

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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Fresh(man) Meat (was Reflections on ...)

Beginneth His Descent Into WORDS-L CHADG@CLEMSON.BITNET

> My question is this : If the prescriptive grammarians thought
> that two negatives made a positive, that must have meant that
> they were basing that on the multiplicative rules of mathematics.
> Why couldn't they just say that it followed an additive property
> and compounded the negation.

     As I recall, prior to this change the rules did simulate
addition, in that adding negatives made things more negative.  The
multiplication paradigm seems to break down when one is confronted
with things like 'either...or' versus 'neither...nor', the latter
violating the communitive property IMHO.

> Forgive me for this question...I am only a lowly Freshman at Clemson
> University and a Math major taking an Advanced Grammar class.  Just
> thought I'd bring that up.

     Tweet.  5 posting penalty for apologizing.  The people on this
list are so ignorant it is heart rending.  But that just means that
none of us knows everything.  But the odds are good that one of us
will know something.  If you don't ask, how do you expect to learn?

The Ronin

Oh, and welcome to the list.
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              8 Apr 1992 22:04:42 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

Natalie, you understand English...but do you love it?
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From:         Steve Portigal <stevep%SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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How's about KBE?  That's a nice title, not too overbearing.  Of course,
I think us Canadians can do the Sir thang.  What about Dame?  What do you
have to do to become a Dame?

Sir Steve Portigallama, DDS
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Subject:      birthday greetings bernard

Since other cats are sending you birthday wishes the cats of
MUHIBBI Cattery wish to send you theirs:

Egyptian Maus
     Orcadia Taversoe Tuick of Muhibbi (aka Tuck)
     Matiki Ivanhoe of Muhibbi (aka Ivan)
     I. C. Inkspots of Muhibbi (aka icy)
     Millwood Gerinamo of Muhibbi (aka Gerry)
     Millwood Pocahantas of Muhibbi (aka pokie)
     Muhibbi Jonnie Dollar (aka JD)
     Muhibbi Jonnie did It (aka stud)
     Muhibbi Jonnie's Indian Smoke (ala lover)
     Muhibbi Rainy Night in Georgia (aka Rainy)
     Muhibbi Sosoumi (aka Sue)
     Muhibbi Cass Timperlane (aks Cass)
     Muhibbi Maucaroon (aka Dewey)
     Muhibbi Maucaroni (aka Huey)
     Muhibbi Louisiana Spot Sauce (aka Louis)
     Muhibbi Made in the Shade (aka Mattie)
     Muhibbi Angie
     Muhibbi Hilde
     Muhibbi Elke
     Muhibbi Boston Blackie (aka BB)
     Rocat Arees El-Nil of Muhibbi (aka BG)
     Rocat Ward El-Nil of Muhibbi (ala LG)
     Millwood Zippity Do Dot of Sansih (aka Zippy)
     Sansih Smokey Mau-tain Music of Muhibbi (aka Smokey)
     Sansih Brat's Grandotter of Muhibbi (aka Dotter)
     Sansih Calamity Jane of Muhibbi (aka Callie)

Ocicat
     Hotspots Freckles of Zeespot (aka Freckles)

Domestic Shorthair  (aka Alley Cat)
     Mischief (an old fashined name)

Assorted unnamed kittens - but playfully happy for you.

JAG
^bwp
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From:         Adam M Hartfield <AHARTFIE%DREW.DREW.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (38)
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Says Natalie:
>I agree.  Of course it's also redundant to say "I walkED home YESTERDAY."
>Why not "I walk home yesterday"?

Why is that redundant?  The -ed indicates that the walk action is in
the past, and yesterday tells when in the past the walking took
place.  Please clarify.

--Adam
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From:         STU DENENBERG <DENENBSA%SNYPLAVA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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...and when I'm introduced, they askme, "So what do you do?" and I say, "I
teach" and they say "What?" and I say, "Computer Science" and , to use the
phraseology of Ronin: CONVERSATION STOPPETH.

        Stu
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*** Resending note of 04/10/92 08:41

>The "meaning" of 'good ole boy' is contextual -- even here in the South.

>I agree that no one who has contracted AIDS deserved to contract it.
>I do not care how stupid, reckless or ignorant they have been.

>JAG

I hope no one inferred that I meant Magic "deserves" his fate.  No one
"deserves" such a fate, but what I did say it was "easier" to relate to
someone whose misfortune was in no way thru their actions, as opposed to
one who helped gain that misfortune by their own actions.  Stupidity,
ignorance and compulsive behavior are not normally criminal activities.
And I don't think any Yankee can ever be a "good ole boy" in the South.
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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>
> I often feel like a piece of shit when friends of mine speak of
> literature, because I have no idea what they're talking about.  I read
> constantly...magazines, newspapers, etc, but a sense of true literature
> was never instilled in me. Secondary education is, unfortunately,
> becoming a joke, unless you go to a private prep school, which is
> where any child I have will be going if I have to work five jobs to pay
> for it.
>
I have to agree with you about public school education in general..
although it would not be expedient for me to say it in the public school
where I teach.  We talk about excellence in education....I don't see it
happening, however.  One thing you might do for your children, though,
which will help them (I think) almost as much as providing them with the
private school experience, is to read to them...early and often.  My
father read "Treasure Island" to me when I was five (I was scared to have
the bedroom light turned off, because I was *sure* Blind Pew was hiding
in the dark!), "Tom Sawyer" and "Huckleberry Finn" when I was six,
all the Louisa May Alcott books when I was seven, and whatever he
happened to be reading after that.  He made me see that reading was
 important...that literature was important.  If more parents gave their
children those gifts today, it would go a long way to help make up for
the inadequacies of the public school.
ndh
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