HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Grrr...
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:24:13 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana



>But VMS keeps all versions of the same file unless someone purges them.
>  And the disk will become full much much quicker, which is not something
>  DM wants either.  Maybe you would suggest CMS instead, eh?  

yue-shun is talking to DM and StM about computer stuff when suddenly
he is totally bowled over and hugge almost to unconsciousness...."hello....
i am so glad to see you here again! it's been too long...."

kitten is giggling, sqealing and hugging yue-shun...one of her oldest
friends here in the Place...

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Making overtures...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:59:42 GMT


>> =Phee is happily involved with StM making caramel apples.   She's managed to
>> =not only make herself another rather lopsided apple, but even managed to
>> =get NUTS all over it (and, this time, the front of her coveralls as well)
>> =and StM as well.  In fact, StM is rather splotchily blotched with bits of
>> =gold caramel as well...  (well, Lira *SAID* to give StM his share, too!!)
>> 
>> StM ponders his situation:  A diabetic felinoid whose fur is somewhat matted
>> with sugar.  How does one groom oneself at this point?

>Thyra comes up with a simple solution for Speaker to Minerals.

>"Well, that's easy enough. Just ask another felinoid who is -not- diabetic
>to help with the grooming. We felines groom each other all the time, when
>among friends."

>She gives StM her best attempt at an innocent expression. Then giggles and
>licks her lips, saying "Besides, I'm rather fond of Caramel. I wouldn't
>mind assisting you, and I'm sure there are othes of feline nature here who
>might like to help. Ocelot! Kitten! What do you say? Shall we help our
>sweet friend StM out of this sticky situation?" She glances at the other
>female felinoids in the room, as she saunters over to StM.

>"Hmmmm?"

>Purrrs,
>Thyra

kitten just giggles and sticks her tongue out...."sounds good to
me...and we promise to not bite you.... too hard...."


--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green)
Subject: Re: Redheads
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:01:13 GMT

In article <1ba1ujINNje6@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
->In article <9228514.15568@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, baillie@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Stephen Baillie) writes:
->=>+--------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ 
->=>|   "To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, |
->=>| thou canst not then be false to any man..."  --William Shakespeare      |
->=>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
->=
->=Who?
->
->Polonius, if I recall correctly.  The same character who advised "Neither a
->borrower nor lender be...."  It amazes me that so many people treat these
->things as useful proverbs, considering the character overall.

Well, no matter how smart or stupid someone is, one can still say things that
make a lot of sense, or are utter nonsense.  Personally, I think the borrower/
lender advice is worthless, while the advice about being true to oneself is,
if not perfect sense, at least not to be ignored.
-- 
dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu				   David "Mishael" Green
		    Have you scritched your local Furry today?
***********************Who ordered the muon? -- I. I. Rabi**********************
	    Unix and the world Unix with you; VAX and you VAX alone.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien)
Subject: Re: BAH! HUMBUG!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:27:53 GMT


"Even harder to believe, my neighbours are playing Frank Sinatra Christmas
songs at 7:00 in the morning. They're at 'I'll be home for Christmas' now
....", says a very tired C.

C
+

PS: Like the .sig for the day, Kitten?? =)
*=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
Quote of the Day:- October 13
For a man to truly understand rejection, he must first be ignored
by a cat.
*=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: click!
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:42:56 GMT

In article <122420143@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>In alt.callahans, rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove) writes:
>
>>   [talking to Doug]
>> Your father is not the only differently abled or handicapped
>> person in the world and the spectrum of disabilities is great.
>> Some of us feel differently abled is an appropriate term for
>> our abilities.  
>
>Very well, perhaps you would care to point out some of the different
>abilities that you have in order to convince me.

Although (as I've said before) I'm not particularly fond of the phrase,
"differently abled", I'll use myself as an example:

I do phone-based tech support at work.  I also have an 80dB hearing
impairment.  Obviously, it's more difficult for me to understand what
the other person is saying than for my fellow techs.  I compensate for
my handicap by a near-encyclopedic knowledge of what I'm supporting --
superior to just about everyone else's there.

In a very real sense, 'differently abled' is the phrase that makes the
most sense, because each of the tech support people I work with tries to
play to their particular strengths to serve our customers.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Who needs Lime Jello [tm]?  We had lasagna.....
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: Oriental or Asian... (was Re: Words)
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:19:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.211912.5635@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William D Yang) writes:
>Y'know, maybe it's just me... but if everyone read with a little less
>aptitude toward taking things in the worst possible way, and maybe a
>little more toward offering the benefit of the doubt to any and every
>person who might write something on the Net, maybe we wouldn't have to
>worry about glossaries and explanations and defenses of how words are
>used and the like.  (Wow!  How's that for a long sentence?  ;).

chuckle...

Sigh.... or actually looking at what they might have meant instead of
picking apart a single example?  Or...

It's starting to really get me down a bit... and I know I'm as guilty as
the next folk.  But... I have been *trying* to see how people mean things,
to take the ideas that they're trying to get across as opposed to what they
actually *said*.  In the last seven years I've found that the Net, in *all*
the groups has gotten more and more and more confrontational, more in the
I'm-Right You're-Wrong mode of conversation.  I'm tired of it.  And rather
confused about finding so much of it in a.c.

Sorta happy that with the format a.c.c. has, there hasn't been quite as
much of it...

I like your advise.  I'm glad you wrote it.  I just wish I could shake the
feeling that I might have come across that way, too, while *trying* to
combat it.  StM *really* made me depressed with how he took Doug's
one-liner and the previous stuff.  And I know that I usually react with the
same mode when someone comes at me with it.

It's so hard not to react, though...

Hugs and thanks for a note of sanity...

Liralen Li
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Redheads
Date: 15 Oct 1992 04:03:15 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <wer8VfC00awEE7EFgU@andrew.cmu.edu>, Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>   Now, Now, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. Don't you know ? :-)
>>
>>Are they?
>Is this going to turn into a cascade?

Shouldn't you have asked, "How many ways will this thread split before we lose
all control of it?"
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Literary Research
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:34:54 GMT
Organization: Murdoch University

aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:

>On a local 4-lane highway (aka Death Alley ["you are on a twisty little
>maze of curves, all alike"]), people have been known to get tickets for
>driving too slowly.

I heard of a chap here who was booked for driving too slowly on an urban
highway (limit 70km/hr).  It was late at night and he was stoned out of his
mind ... the officer clocked him doing 15km/hr  :-)

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:19:37 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct6.174246.29028@data-io.com>, li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:
=In article <1992Oct6.062507.3135@ucc.su.OZ.AU> mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar) writes:
=>>[The Bellman:] From what I have seen of gridiron (which is not much)
=>>Australian [rugby] players could run you off your feet, assuming that we
=>>could pass the ball backwards as often as we liked.
=
=Hmmm... thing is that there *is* the penalty of possibly turning the ball
=over if any of the backwards passes are missed, i.e. if the ball is
=dropped, the other team could pick it up and go the other way with it.

I don't think so.  I think that an incomplete lateral counts as an incomplete
pass rather than as a fumble, though I could be wrong.
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: BAH! HUMBUG!
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:55:55 GMT
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi

In article <1bkrodINNdl3@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>Or, to quote one of my favorite comic strip characters (I *THINK* I've got the
>lyrics right:
>	Deck us all with Boston Charlie
>	Walla Walla Washington and Kalamazoo!

       "A Pogo fan !!!!" Dreamy Jim who has several Pogo books... And yes,
   that particular song is in one of them. There are four verses. I can't
   find the book, it here in my room somewhere... mumble mumble...
   I look it up...

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
From: yho@netcom.Netcom.COM (Yue-shun E. Ho)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: great  land
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:29:19 GMT
	<1992Oct14.161932.19687@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
	<1992Oct15.022908.485@cs.mcgill.ca>
Organization: Toronto, Ontario, home of the Blue Jays

In article <1992Oct15.022908.485@cs.mcgill.ca> braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca  (The Didi-Sprite) writes:
   The Didi-Sprite, having finished 'looking' and hugging Kitten, turns her
   glare on Alfvaen ... "-40, eh, old chum?  Ummhmmm!  Well, Montreal has
   been known to get down in the -20's Celsius for days at a time.  As far
   as this sprite is concerned ... that's Winter enough for anyone ... and
   as far as snow ... we've had the joy of being snowed-in from time to
   time.  Now *that's* fun!"

You see, Didi, I told you winter is your favourite season.  You keep on
  challenging me on this issue.  Now you're caught!!

   Didi giggles:  "How about the VP debate last night folks!  

Extremely entertaining!  I just hope they have one debate every week.

Seriously, the US President (and the Canadian Prime Minister, for that
  matter) could engage themselves in live teevee debates with their Senates
  on a regular basis, just like what the British Prime Minister is doing
  in London.  I think that would be fun, especially if H. Ross Perot
  (probably the best entertainer on teevee) gets elected.

yue-shun, toronto, ontario
(say YES to the World Series)

--
yue-shun.e.ho        yho@utcs.utoronto.ca (personal)      yho@bnr.ca (business)

"The net is expensive.  Don't stay too long."   - Me
-- 
yue-shun.e.ho        yho@utcs.utoronto.ca (personal)      yho@bnr.ca (business)

"The net is expensive.  Don't stay too long."   - Me
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:19:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Callahan's is for everyone
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans

In alt.callahans, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:

> In article <122420134@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
> =In alt.callahans, li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:
> =
> => 
> => Uhm... sorry if this rains on anyone's parade, but... piffle.
> => 
> => Callahan's is a news group.
> => 
> => It is *not* a bunch of people who have the professional know-how to 'help'
> => everyone.  STM looks like he could use some help that *really* knows what
> => its doing as opposed to a bunch of well-meaning, but rank amateurs.  Even
> => the Polymath, who has a degree in mind-work, will not claim to be able to
> => fix things for anyone here.
> => 
> =[the rest deleted]
> => ----
> => Liralen Li 
> => li@inigo.Data-IO.com
> =
> =Great post Liralen.  I agree fully.
> 
>Another armchair psychiatrist?  Or just someone who hasn't taken the trouble to
> follow the thread?  FYI, the item in question was due in large part because I
> *AM* getting professional help.

Actually, I should have stated when I replied to her that my reply
had nothing to do with you.  In fact, none of my discussion on this
topic has anything whatsoever to do with you.  So you needn't take
any of this personally.

> Really, Doug, you ought to consider following your own advice.

Perhaps, but again, you are taking this more personally than you ought
to.  I realize that you are aware of your medical problem and that it
is being treated.  My input has absolutely NOTHING to do with you
and your condition.

As for following my own advice, I DO.  I treat this as another notes
group and little else.


doug
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: yho@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Yue-shun E. Ho)
Subject: Re: Grrr...
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:21:32 GMT

In article <Bvvw0E.Jys@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:

>yue-shun is talking to DM and StM about computer stuff when suddenly
>he is totally bowled over and hugge almost to unconsciousness...."hello....
>i am so glad to see you here again! it's been too long...."
>
>kitten is giggling, sqealing and hugging yue-shun...one of her oldest
>friends here in the Place...
>

yue-shun, slowly recovering from unconsciousness, opens his eyes and found
  himself being squealed and hugged by his dear friend from the library.

"Oh hi, kitten the conanian, have you been catching mice lately?" he asks.

And before he hears her reply, he is thrown into the hot tub -- kitten's
  favourite playground -- by her tremendously strong paws.  Looks like 
  they are having great fun.


-- 
yue-shun.e.ho        yho@utcs.utoronto.ca (personal)      yho@bnr.ca (business)

"The net is expensive.  Don't stay too long."   - Me
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBRANDT@AAA.UOregon.edu (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Re: Light In The Tunnel
Organization: the Polyhedron Group
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 05:54:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.162558.19916@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:
> 
> Alfvaen yells, "A round for the house on me!"  There is a considerable stir at
> this, because Alfvaen's never bought a round before.  (Well, maybe nobody's
> noticed this previously...)

Jason scuttles over to the bar and collects a glass of Gods Blessing from
Mike.
> 
> "I got a call yesterday from a company called Sequiter Software in Edmonton.

> "They want me to come in for an interview on Thursday.
> "More info as I get it.  In the meantime--"  Mike hands him a Wildberry Vodka
> Cooler.  "To a possible end to the job search!  And to getting my hopes up!"
> 
> <<Crash!>>
> 

Jason says "Congratulations Alfvaen! Best of luck in the interview."

<<Crash>>


Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 22:00:41 -0400 
From: Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Why 9! = 362,880
	<1b4ca7INNncd@gap.caltech.edu>

well it is also quite prevalent in calculas.  Fo finding power series
adn infinite sums.  There is actually a way to teh the factorial of a
non integer.  I can't quite remmeber the equation.  Somone must know.

Friend of the one who is.
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Unbeliever fades back in...
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:57:56 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: seurat.wag.caltech.edu

 The Unbeliever is explaining his view of the Covenant books ...

>> >Covenant failed in his struggle to reject destructive delusion.
>> 
>> "Or succeeded in answering the Fundamental Question of Ethics."

After reflection, I think the Covenant books may have been about solipsism.
Covenant, for what he sees as good reasons, believes that he is more real
than the universe he sees about him.  Like a solipsist, he treats the
world around him as a delusion - and is not pleased with the results,
because even if what he sees isn't real, it still isn't pleasant.

*shrug*

BTW, what do you call a person whose philosophy is that there is only one 
real person, that all of the rest of the universe is a figment of the
imagination - and the philosopher isn't that one real person?  In other
words, instead of 'I am the only real thing', 'There is only one real
thing and I'm not it ...'

- Abner

P.S.  The Covenant books are one of the few series where every book was
significantly better than the one previous.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Redheads
Date: 13 Oct 1992 15:10:21 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct13.144120.24569@ra.msstate.edu>, jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:
>   Now, Now, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. Don't you know ? :-)

Are they?
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Failure
From: DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY)
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:58:02 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20Lines: 61

Jack Crow suddenly throws his guitar down, and jumps to his feet screaming, 

"damnit, DAMNIT, DAMNIT, FUCK, FUCK,"  and finally just screams until his voice
can't take it anymore and gives out.  His legs wobble.  He crumples to the
ground in tears.  
	Jack looks up and sees a circle of concerned Patrons around him, not
wanting to ask, waiting for him to speak. His tears stop.  He takes a few
shudery breaths, blows his nose, and says, croaking, "can I have a little
water?"  Someone gets him a glass from which he sits.  He looks around again.
"Sorry about that," he mumbles.  "I just couldn't take it anymore"

"As some of you know, i have been, i don't know, dating?  is that the word? 
fine, dating someone for almost ten months now.  I love her, more than anyone
else ever (more than I thought possible) and she loves (or at least loved) me. 
I don't know now.  We had a relationship built on total trust.  Trust in
fidelity, trust in love, trust in that we could share anything with the other
(and did share everything), and the trust that the other person is always
there for the other.
	Well, two Saturdays ago, just before we were asleep, her mother
called to tell her that a distant relative had died. This got Mary (my
girlfriend? lover?) started on a long morose path to depression about death in
her family (they have had several deaths in the last five years, and her sister
has a brain tumor.  Her sister was given six months to live four years ago and
is now doing fine.  for now).  I felt that the words were making things worse
and that it would be better if I just held her without talking.  But i was
operating on four hours of sleep and was almost unconcious.  I said the worng
thing which she felt that I couldn't cope.  She thought i couldn't cope because
i was tired, when her family memeber was dead.  She was shocked, she froze, we
lay silent for a long time.
	I realized just what i had said and the effect it had, and we managed
to start talking, but the trust was gone. It may always be gone.
	So now we go on.  We are trying to rebuild.  She knows that I didn't
mean to be insensitive, but how can she be completely open to me again? Walls
are being built between us.  And just when we need to have lots of time
together, I am going into production of a play I'm stage managing (and i can't
drop), she has fractured her hand, and i don't know waht to do. Some moments
are fine, and the next there is such ice between us."

	Jack tries to go on but can't.  he starts to cry again
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:33:52 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana




>In one of the darkest corners, lit only by the dim glow of the frequency
>display of an old transceiver, a long-silent patron looks up.  She pushes
>aside an old brass straight key, takes off a pair of headphones and stretches
>the stiff fingers of her right hand.  <Maybe he's on to something, going the
>codeless Tech route> she thinks, as she looks to see who was speaking.

>As the Boss Troll finishes, she approaches his table and introduces herself.

>"Welcome, Troll...I'm afraid I missed your entrance.  Gosh, I haven't posted
>much of anything in about a year, and I've barely kept up with reading.  A
>few of the folks here might remember me;  my "handle" :-) is Minstrel.  I
[   ]

>"73 de AA2KZ."

kitten hugs minstrel..."welcome back....i never did the radio
thing...but used to live with WD9GVD (ham operator)  its been 9! years
and i still remember his call sign..."


--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk (Alan Ralph)