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Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Jeep Cherokee
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:49:00 EST

Hello all!
 
  I have a 1985 Jeep Cherokee that I bought from a 2nd party.  It has
60,*** plus miles on it. Really a bout average miles.  It hasn't been
abused as far as I can tell. 
 
The 4-cylinder engine runs perfect, the air conditioner runs
very well. 
 
I have taken it 4X4'ing several times and it works perfectly.
I have never had so much fun in a 4X4 sport utility vehicle.
 
Was wondering if anybody has one and if they have had any
problems with anything on it.
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From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: "Zymol and AUTO GLYM, any experience ?"
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:58:27 GMT
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.

In article <1992Jul29.170000.25405@almserv.uucp> s5umam@fnma.COM (Mike Mohar) writes:

>In article 7698@csus.edu, aalis@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Andy A. Liss) writes:

>>Last time someone in the net asked whether the zymol wax is any good,
>>but so far, I haven't seen any answer to this one.

>I went out and bought the Zymol starter kit ($59) and have used 
>it once so far. It's alot of hard work! There are like 3 stages:

Hmmm.  IAP sells the starter kit for US$39.95.  I've been considering
it for a while now...

BTW, IAP's number is (800) 726-0555, just in case...

--
...ignoring the fact that most Alfas spend their time cruising for
chicks, most Datsuns being washed and most Porsches in parking spaces
marked "Doctor"...              -Henry N. Manney III, Road and Track
Al Bowers                                 bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
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From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: More CHP shit!
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Jul21.060345.3258@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, 
mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:
> PURE WHITE ON WHITE Interceptors!!!! <for those who don't know..interceptors
> are the mustang lx's {5.0s} that the CHP uses.>

In the San Francisco Bay area, more specifically on I-280, the CHP are
using a silver Mustang for interception, and I have encountered
radar two times from a full-size CHP black and white.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
From: chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Unmarked COP Cars (Was Re: More CHP shit!)
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:46:10 GMT
Organization: RICOH California Research Center

zdem0a@hgo7.hou.amoco.com (Donna Martz) writes:
> nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
> 
> >I have seen a few nontraditional unmarked cop cars myself recently.  One
> >guy was pulled over on the side of the road by an unmarked car -- the
> >only way I could tell was because it had the lights in the grill.  No
> >tell-tale antennaes and -- get this -- the copy was dressed like someone
> >going to work (white shirt, tie, etc.).  He didn't even hae a uniform
> >on.
> 
> How can you safely determine if you are being stopped by a law officer 
> and not a criminal in these cases?   Are you required to stop for anyone 
> with flashing lights?  Do you risk additional charges, being thrown in 
> jail, (and possibly beaten) by an irate patrol officer in one of these 
> unmarked "cruisers", or do you just pull over for a possible felon?  On 
> an interstate it is unlikely one would find a location to stop that may 
> be "safe".  Does anyone have advise for someone in this situation? 
>  
> one would find a populated location to pull over. 

  So there I was one day, ripping along hiway 17 (now 880) in San Jose,
  CA,  on a large black Motorcycle, when a gold Lincoln Continental kind 
  of floats into my lane, and cuts me off. So I hop around to the left and 
  blow by as quick as I can (part of normal Moron-Avoidance for MCs).  
  Next thing you know, the Linc is coming up on me fast with a red light 
  on the dash.

   I'm thinking "I'm getting pulled over by A lincoln Continental with
   Fuzzy Dice hanging from the mirror?"

   Well, this strutting Hispanic fellow in a double-knit 3 piece suit
   exuding about a gallon of Brut walks up and asks for my licencse and
   registration.


   "What the hell are you", I say.

   "License and registration, please", he repeats.

   "What the hell are you", I repeat.

    He reaches in his pocket, comes out with a wallet containing a badge
    and county sheriff ID card.

    "Yes Sir, Right away Sir" I say.



    I guess my point is, that they (COPS) are out there in all kinds of
    dress, and all kinds of vehicles. Just because you are pulled over
    on the hiway or wherever, it doesn't mean that its a traffic enforcement
    officer. On this particular day, I was displaying some pretty
    blatant disrespect for the double nickel, and was pulled over buy the
    sheriffs dept. office Mgr. who hadn't mad an arrest or written a
    ticket in years.


    My advice would be to keep the motor running, and the car in gear,
    with the window rolled down just enough to hear until you are shown some
    pretty authentic looking ID.
From: cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 195hp/liter?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:56:34 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1119@xlnt.COM> david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes:
>One Japanese company is getting ~195hp/l on a production car but it is not
>really fair to compare other cars to it.  I am sure he is talking about the
>1.3l 255hp 1993 RX7.  The problem is you cannot compare hp/displacement
>ratios fairly between rotaries and piston engines.  It is about as reasonable

The displacement is defined as the volume a cylinder inhales at a time
times the number of cylinders. Since a cylinder of a four-stroke piston
engine inhales once for every two rotations of the shaft, while a cylinder
of a rotary engine inhales for each rotation of the shaft, you have to
multiply the displacement of a rotary by 2 for proper comparison.
--
Constantinos A. Caroutas
From: Brian.E.Hannon@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Chrysler's 800 customer support number, help please...
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:03:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul28.143322.10876@pool.info.sunyit.edu>
gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman) writes:

> 	I've been trying to get through on Chrysler's 800 customer support
> number for days now.  The line is busy, busy, busy...
> 	Can someone tell me if the number I'm calling is the right one?
> 
> 	800-992-1997

If it's busy, Busy, BUSY, I'll bet you're calling the right number.

Bri

Couldn't resist the opportunity to cut on chrysler. :-)
From: astsit@orion.oac.uci.edu (Francis Huang)
Subject: *** FOR SALE: 1991 EAGLE TALON TSi AWD     Must sale! Leaving country *
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:35:50 GMT
Distribution: rec.autos

I found a job overseas, and must sell my 10 month-new car.  Wouldn't put it
up for sale if I didn't have to leave.  

                          1991 EAGLE TALON TSi AWD

ENGINE:		2.0 liter, 4 cylinders (16 valves) intercooled TURBO
SPEED:		5 speed manual transmission
		0 to 60 in 6.3 seconds (Car and Driver magazine)
POWER:		195 horse power
MILES:		14,000 miles
MPG: 		22 MPG my average
ALARM:		Viper 300 (passive arming with ignition kill)
COLOR:		Quick Silver with Black top
EQUIPMENT:	Air condition,
		Cassette AM/FM with 6 speakers
OTHERS:		Changed oil every 3,000 miles and applied Slick 50 


ASKING PRICE:   I bought it for $18,700
		Sacrifice       $13,900 OBO

Francis
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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: pontiac service
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:29:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


i have a (surprisingly) good story to tell concerning pontiac.
i have a 89 grand am and it is 3 years old has 36k miles.  i noticed that
the paint is bubbling under both rear windows and along the wheel-well on
1 side and on the lower left door.  pontiac said no problem they will fix the
whole thing.  this particular dealer has no body shop so i was allowed to take
it anywhere in town, my choice.  the estimate to fix this and repaint is 
just under 1k.  these are small spots...about the size of a nickel.
anyway, i really expected them to try and weasel out of it since the normal
3yr/50k mile warranty was up.  but since there is a 6yr/100k rust-thru coverage
i guess that is what it is under.
of course, rather sad that a 3 yr old car has this problem to begin with...
but at least they are paying for it.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller)
Subject: SATURN PRICE INCREASE
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:33:09 GMT

Saturn announced a 9+% price increase for the '93 model year

any surprises>>>>>


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: M5 vs. Sports Cars
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:46:15 GMT

Subject: Re: M5 vs. Sports Cars
Keywords: 

In article <SUDEEP.92Jul27144848@pundit.arc.UUCP>, sudeep@arc.UUCP (Sudeep Sharma) writes:
|> 
|>  Dude, I don't have the exact numbers with me right now,
|>  but the latest M5 models will leave both the 300ZXTT and
|>  the Corvette eating dust. I am not sure about the new
|>  Mazda RX-7.
|> 
This is simply not true. While it may very well beat *last year's*
'vette or the Nissan *in a straight line*, there's no way it could
keep up on any sort of curvy road course. What is it with these
one-dimensional dragster definitions of speed, anyway?!

jds

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: burgoyne@highlite.uucp (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Subject: Re: Ban the Killer of 300,000 (losing your cars)
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:34:11 GMT

tedrick@triangle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
: Banning cars has been treated of something of a joke, but
: if you look more closely governments are squeezing the
: balls of car owners ever more tightly, to get more cash
: from them, and more control over them.
: 
: I think it's generally true with respect to any technology that gets
: a grip on human life: governments try to get some control
: over it in order to extract wealth from the masses.

That's why people need to vote. If you think America shouldn't be a socialist
country where the government shouldn't make all your choices, vote
appropriately.

The regulatory/tax scence is an out of control monster. I won't vote for any
politician who doesn't speak against it. In Maryland, that means that you
should vote for Allan Keyes, and not for Barbara Mikulski for US Senator. 

Here in Maryland they just upped the gas tax by 5 cents, and this year our
car registrations have gone from $27 to $35. And half the people will be forced
to pay for a two year registration at $70! Don't you just love giving the
government your money without receiving any interest on it? We already have
some of the most expensive auto insurance rates in the nation.

I think I'll go out for a long drive in my fast car this weekend. And maybe
I'll go jet-skiing with my friend if it doesn't rain.

Robert
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: Sentra E vs. Saturn SL (SE-R & SC)
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:36:54 GMT

nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
>Secondly, you can hardly say that you bought the Ford before the company
>had a chance to "prove themselves".  After all, how long has Ford been
>in business?  Longer than I've been around, anyway.  Since you obviously
>can't judge a car by the longevity of the company, why not look at what
>the company has done *so far* and judge it on that.

I agree with most of what you said, but have to bring up a point here.
Ford's been around for awhile and they made really nice cars for a
long time.  Unfortunately this reminds me of a conversation that took
place in the movie "Real Genius" between the antagonist and
protagonist (whose character names I've forgotten), paraphrased
somewhat:

A: "You're off the project."
P: "But I've increased the power of the system ten times since I came
   on the project."
A: "That was yesterday.  What have you done for me *today*?"

The point of the conversation there -- and here -- is that doing
something wonderful in the past doesn't do the present any good at
all.  '60's Fords were well built and aestheticly pleasing.  80's
Fords were ugly, broke down regularly, and rusted out in an eyeblink.

If Ford -- or the other two -- wants my respect back, it's got to do
something *now* to get it.  Likewise for the other American companies.
They're trying (witness Saturn, the Taurus, and the LH-Series) but
there's distance to go and public opinion to win back.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: norcott_bill@tandem.com (Bill Norcott)
Subject: Re: 1989 Ford Tempo problem
Reply-To: norcott_bill@tandem.com  (Bill Norcott)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:36:12 GMT

I just called Ford today at 1-800-392-3673, there is a recall for
the '87 model (which I have).  It is an emissions recall, not the
fuel pump.  My local Ford dealer scheduled me for the day after
tomorrow.  By the way it is called "campaign 89E78".

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Tandem Computers, Inc.		
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From: lee@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Lee Faa)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Roof rack for 92 Saturn SL2
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:24:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC

Can anyone give me some information on what type of
roof rack (for snow skis) I can use on my Saturn SL2?

Lee
From: mizutanit@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: BMW and Lexus: Feedback Wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:44:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul28.035129.3561@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:
> Get a Q45...trust me...it doesn't say BMW on it..but it 
> is even better! <G> [A lot of people like the words BMW on their car]
> 
> I am sure you can get a 90 or 91 Q45 with less then 30K miles on it..I've seen
> TONS in the paper. The Q is comfortable, FAST, sleek...and all that good stuff.
> 
> AND IT WILL SMOKE ALMOST ANY CAR out there..2 door or 4 door <not including
> Vette's..but It will beat a Camaro RS or Mustang LX (or GT)..at least
> that is my personal expierence..
> --
> ==============================  *  Marshal Perlman               * DO
> =-> mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu <-=  *  Huntington Beach, California  * NOT
> ==============================  *  (Surf City, U.S.A)            * EAT
> * Yeltsin is the Russian word for Retsin * CAUTION: RADIOACTIVE MESSAGE



An Infiniti Q45 is better than a BMW 535i AUTOMATIC. Anyone who has driven a
5-speed 535i will tell you that it handles better and is more fun to drive than
a Q45. I would only get a Q45 if I needed the extra space and I had to have an
automatic.

If a slightly older car does not bother you, the 750iL is a better car than a
Q45, has an automatic (if you require one), and sells for about the same price
as a Q45.

Taka
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bobh@troy.uucp (22131-hettmansperger)
Subject: Re: Sentra E vs. Saturn SL
Reply-To: bobh@troy.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:23:00 GMT

In article <92205.194311NAZ@auvm.american.edu> Naz Reyes <NAZ@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>
>Apparently, you haven't been keeping up with today's cars.  Have you
>heard of the Nissan Maxima or the 300ZX or the Sentra SE-R or...???
>
I've heard of the Nissan NX, does that count?

>All cars have gained wide-acclaim from car enthusiasts all around
>the world from the 80's until the present.
>
>Tell me something.  Do you like any Japanese cars at all?  There's gotta
>be a link here somewhere.
>

It's always got to be Amurrican vs. the Japanese, doesn't it?  I bought a 
Saturn and surprise!  I like it.  My last two cars were Hondas and surprise!
I liked them.  What will my next car be?  I don't know, but it will probably
be something that I test drive and like, and be made by a company that I
respect and that I find innovative and good for the entire industry.  If I
were to buy a new car tomorrow, it would probably be a Mazda.  

I'm sick to death of people assuming that I now hate Japanese cars just 
because I bought a Saturn.  Could it be that I just liked the car and the
dealer and service that came with it?  Nahhh, I must have been brainwashed
by the media (of which Car and Driver apparently must not be part of 
according to Issa, but then again I have an SC not an SL).

-Bob
From: v368ucgd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 300Z vs. M3
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:39:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92209.133934JMARTIN@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, JMARTIN@WUVMD writes...
>Simply question.
> 
>Which car is better for the money and which has the better maintance
>record?
> 
>I have been looking at 1990 and 1991 300Z and  1987 - 1988 BMW M3.
> 
>Also, what is a ball park range to pay for these?
> 
>Around here, the 300's can be purchased between 17k - 22k....
>             the M3 can be picked at the 16k - 19k range.
> 
>I cannot decide, but should both have about the same performance?
>  Just delievered differently........
> 

	The real difference that the BMW has tradition, and is a whole
lot more cool than the Nissan. The 300zx is sort of like the kid who
worked real hard in high school, so everyone though he was a genius, as
compared to the BMW, which would be the  truly brilliant person who had
more lofty things on his mind than impressing others. Ive driven both
cars, the BMW has soul, the Nissan has flash. I think that the 300
might be a little faster, but I'd take the BMW.





>Joe Martin
>Washington University - St. Louis
>jmartin@wuvmd.wustl.edu
From: borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:47:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Air Conditioning
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.autos

In rec.autos, beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:

>I am bout to purchase a new Geo Storm Coupe....
>
>I was a bit confused about the Air Conditioning posts I have
>been reading over the past week....
>
>Can someone explain this 1995 thing to me clearly????????????

In 1995, you will no longer be able to have your air conditioning system
recharged with Freon-12, the the stuff they use in it now.  The
use of Freon-12 will be banned.

If your air conditioning system never leaks, you will have no problem.
But, almost all auto air conditioning system develop leaks after a few
years.  So the Freon leaks out.  No Freon, no cool.  With no replacement
after 1995, you might be stuck with a useless system.

There are some proposed alternatives.  They have several disadvantages.
Freon-134a is a proposed alternative.  Unfortunately, it doesn't cool
very well in systems designed for Freon-12.  In addition, it doesn't help
carry lubricating oil back to the compressor.  The oil winds up in low
spots of the system, away from the compressor.  Without oil, the compressor
quickly fails.  Also, this Freon has a nasty habit of chemically reacting
with any water or dirt in the system, forming acids which then eat the
components of the system.

There are some other alternatives, which are mixtures, all of which have
the disadvantages listed above to some degree, plus some additional
disadvantages of their own.

So buy your air conditioning now.  Enjoy it as long as it works.  The put
aside $1500 to $2000 to buy yourself a new system compatible with the
new refrigerants in a few years.  Or learn how to recharge your own
system with iso-butane and propane (see discussion on the net from a few
days ago).


Donald Borowski    WA6OMI    Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division
"Angels are able to fly because they take themselves so lightly."
                                       -G.K. Chesterton

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Subject: Re: The Fish
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:42:33 GMT

In article <182517@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>In article <8JUL199214124576@rosie.uh.edu> vpsa3@rosie.uh.edu (MIKE HON) writes:
>>
>>Basically, it means, "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior," pretty much the main
>>if very basic statement of the Christian world view.  My Greek is a little
>>rusty, so if the case endings are wrong, I'm sorry.
>>
>    Pretty close.  Ask a Presbyterian minister if you need it any
>    closer than that.  
>
>      Thus is born the invitation to go out for some sushi? >:-)
>
A friend of mine has a twist of such a plackard on his car:
The fish has feet sticking out under neath it and the word
within the fish is DARWIN.  I guess he's an athiest.

eyc
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