HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: MISC: New Books-4/10/92
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:44:11 GMT


Here are the books released by Capital City Distribution in Cleveland,
OH on Friday, April 10th:

APPLE
Days of Darkness #3

ARCHIE
Betty & Veronica #53              Betty & Veronica Double Digest #32

CALIBER
Divas #3                          Lizards Spring Special #1

COMICO
Elementals #23

DISNEY
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #573

ECLIPSE
Mad Dogs #2

FANTAGRAPHICS
Cereal Killings #2                Crucial Fiction #2
Street Music #3

FRIENDLY/PERSONALITY
Original Crew #7

HARVEY
Hot Stuff Sizzlers #1             Saved By The Bell #2

MARVEL
Avengers West Coast #83           Captain America #401
Daredevil #305                    Darkhawk #16
Namor #27                         Namor Annual #2
NFL Superpro #9                   Toxic Crusaders #2
Uncanny X-Men #289                Web of Spider-Man #89

MYSTERY GRAPHIX
Midnight Screams #2

REBEL STUDIOS
Darkstar #3

TRAGEDY STRIKES
Cheeseheads #3

VALIANT
Archer & Armstrong #0


Next week's Wednesday list will not be posted until Thursday.

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          JOEL TSCHERNE - Internet: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.edu 
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             "We always earned our money the old-fashioned way: 
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Dark Empire Upcoming Plots
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:26:40 GMT

In article <92097.014156DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Boba Fett lives? SHHYEAHH! RIGHTTT! I DON'T *THINK* SO!!!
>It will be interesting to see how they explain this one; if it's the
>same old "clone" idea they already used, I'll be disappointed.
>
>- A.K.A. "Dave"

Since I mentioned this in an earlier post, I'll explain further(seem to be doing
this a lot lately).  Tom Vietch said that Bobba Fett was one of fan-fav. characters of the saga, so of course he wanted to use him.  Besides the way he "died"
was sooo stupid.  Like he couldn't just climb out later.

BTW in Marvel's SW comic (which was as bad as everyone thinks, just most of the post Jedi-stories<esp. at the end> were lame) Fett was barfed out of the Saarlak(?) and found by Jedi's-the rest of the story was poor--w/ Fett falling back into the pit at the end. Oh well

-------SCAVENGER

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From: dfmaki@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dean Maki)
Subject: Re: JM DeMatteis
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:08:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.232912.1701@nic.csu.net> gary@buster.sfsu.edu (& Hoo) writes:
>Does anyone know what he is doing nowadays?  I picked up on him in the JL  
>titles first and then _Dr._Fate_, and I would be interested to know what  
>he has done elsewhere, especially since leaving the latter.
>
  J.M. is currently working on a Spiderman title (Amazing I think).  It is 
rather moody....much like his Craven's Last Hunt story.  The last stroy dealt
with the Vulture dying of cancer.  Good stuff, if not as light hearted as his
JL stint.

/\/\ /-\ ]<
:'I was walking down the flake minding my own cow......'
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Sandman Movie?!?
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:32:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.084229.17180@maths.tcd.ie> afarrell@maths.tcd.ie (Andrew Farrell) writes:
>Time to Re-open trhe nominations for the Sandman cast, methinks.
>Anyone remember them? Brian Blessed for Destruction is the only one that comes 
>to mind, and we haven't even seen Destruction in ~3000 years.

Bravo!  Good choice!

>Andrew
>
>PS: Let's not forget David Bowie for Desire, Lucifer, *and* John Constantine!

Since Constantine was designed to resemble Sting, I would suggest Sting
for Constantine, not Bowie.  Bowie = Lucifer maybe, but not Desire.

--
 Bill Sherman     S^1 `--> S^(2n+1) -->> CP^n      sherman@math.ucla.edu
       Tell me, Cliff: what color is the sky in your world?
                - Dr. Frasier Crane, "Cheers"
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 15:54:01 CDT
From: <UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET> (David R. Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MUTANTS: Rogues powers...
 <mal6657.703132376@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1992Apr14.030331.10794@wpi.WPI.EDU>
 <1992Apr15.143528.1916@urbana.mcd.mot.com> <1992Apr16.134234.1326@bvc.edu>

Bullshit. Sorry, guys, but strong times call for strong words. Rogue's
powers have worked as followed:

She has successfully absorbed (definition:  took the powers and minds and
used them with no loss of control for herself) every non-mystical, non-alien
threat she has faced. Including Wolverine. Including a hostile Wolverine.
(Check your X-Men #158's, if they go back that far). Willpower has nothing
to do about whether she loses control *unless* the victim involved has
some known magical abilities (Loki), alien makeup (Mojo, Magus, Impossible
Man), or mind control powers (the phermone-spurting Brood II). As for
Mephisto -- yeah, gee, she's outpowered by a god-level being (far more god-
level than Loki), go figure. All other grunts, no matter how willful, have
not been capable of "taking her over."

And, for the record, the real reason I'm upset is my new haircut. *Yuck!*

>>>>>  CTHULHU IN '92! -- Why vote for the LESSER evil?  <<<<<
In related news:  George Bush is the Anti-Kate. Details at 11.
David Henry/Rogue Fan Club/Chaos Anonymous (ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet)
                                          (ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu)
What was your question? --K //Thanks... for the memories. -- Rogue
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.books
From: wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Subject: Re: BOOKS:Good Omens-Gaiman&Pratchett
Followup-To: rec.arts.books
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:47:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.051402.4818@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>I know this isn't comics, but if you liked Good Omens You'll probably
>adore the book _Practical Demonkeeping_, by Christopher Moore.
>...it's easily as good as any of the Adams books or Good Omens, but
>it's plotted flawlessly.

A quick, dissenting opinion: I loved _Good Omens_ and a lot of Adams'
work, but I can't recommend _Practical Demonkeeping_ very strongly.
It wasn't incompetently done, and did have some fun bits, but I had a
very strong "so what?" feeling by the end.  It certainly didn't have
be laughing constantly, the way _GO_ did.  I think it might play
better if you read a fair amount of horror fiction, though; the style
clearly comes out of that genre, and the in-jokes are for that
audience.

Followups redirected.

-David
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Sandman #37
Keywords: A Game of You
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 05:20:40 GMT

In <1992Apr8.144651.15487@midway.uchicago.edu> wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan "T2" Wen) writes:
>Um, specific criticisms:
>Thessaly's characterization was handled inconsistently.  Is she petty and
>inexperienced or is she powerful and confrontational?

I think she's powerful and inexperienced, because she's been hiding her
power for a long time.  She is after all quite ancient (she or her sisters
were mentioned in the Orpheus book).
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         Her voice sounded like something that lurks in the long grass,
                   visible only by the twitching of its ears,
                  until something young and tender wobbles by.
From: douga@yang.earlham.edu (Doug Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:37:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr14.103720.16959
Organization: The Lion of Serrea

In article <92098.234501ST02183@auvm.american.edu>, ST02183@auvm.american.edu writes:
> I've noticed the one about the psychic knife. Not only is it annoying,
> it's stupid. Why waste time explaining it, just use it.
>  It could be worse. Ever read old LSH stories from the 50's and 60's
> (yeah, the "classic" ones). Each character always began by saying
> "I Cosmic Boy, will use my control over magnetism to stop that runaway
> train" or "I Saturn Girl will use my mind-reading powers to make them
> think this is good writing even though the author is only 15 years old."
> (Just kidding, no flames necessary.)
> Jason-st02183@auvm (Long Live the Legion!)

	I hate to say this, but the main source of overused lines has to 
be Claremont.  Take a look at a few of his:
	"Ah can't touch his bare skin, or Ah'll absorb his powers and memories!"
	"Bobby! Be careful! You're strong, but you're not invulnerable!"
	"Ah'm pretty well invulnerable when Ah'm blastin'." (Yes, Chris 
originated this one, not Liefeld/Nicieza.)
	"What can I do? My power's pretty well useless in combat."
	"Now and forever, I am [fill in the blank]!"
	ANY description of Wolverine's bones/claws/what have you.
	"If it weren't for his/my healing factor, he'd/I'd be in rough shape."
	ANY prejudicial statement about mutants.  There are so many..."Get 
out of here, mutie, we don't want you're stinking kind around here!" pops 
to mind.
	
	Need I say more?  (BTW, if anyone has cause to doubt that writers 
can improve over time, check out Claremont's work on BLACK GOLIATH.  Ack!)
			--Doug
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From: bmesmer@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Carl Muckenhoupt)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN QUESTIONS - HELP, PLEASE.
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
	<1992Apr9.152653.21918@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:50:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.152653.21918@midway.uchicago.edu> wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan "T2" Wen) writes:

   In article <1992Apr4.140438.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> pdorsey@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
   >3. What else has Alan Moore done besides Swamp Thing, V for Vendetta, and
   >Watchmen? Anything of interest to a poor fan? Ditto with Frank Miller (aside
   >from the Elektra books, Ronin, and the two Batman graphic novels, that is.)
   >
Let us not forget Miracleman. Originally a feature in 2000 AD called Marvelman
(changed when published in the US for obvious reasons), it was published by
Eclipse Comics and I believe a few bound reprints have been issued. After 
while Moore quit but I think it's still coming out, albeit irregularly.
Basically a massive retcon of a golden-age British Captain Marvel imitation
into an Alan Moore god-hero, by slow degrees.

--

Carl Muckenhoupt        bmesmer@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
"As a lyricist you become sensitive to certain things. You become aware
that there aren't very many words that rhyme with 'love'. There are a lot
more words that rhyme with 'hate' than with 'love'. You've got 'above'
and 'dove' and 'glove' and 'shove' and that's about it."
                        - Peter Shickele


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From: mcollins@isis.cs.du.edu (The One and Only Killans)
Subject: Re: THENET:  Do some net systems get priority over others?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20:48:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.232338.4873@ac.dal.ca> rlawson@ac.dal.ca writes:
>	This post is not a
>dicussion of comics.  It is
>just a question on the system
>that allows us to voice our
>views.
>	I've (jules) been noticing
>for the last week that sometimes
>a followup is posted on the Usenet/
>Vax system before the original post
>	Egg. Post #36728  on WILD
>CARDS  was written on April 3rd
>the directory said the date was
>April 7th  and the followup
>was registed on the directory
>as Post #36719 and dated
>April 7th
>
>Anyone know why this happens,
>Do some systems get priority
>over others?
>
>Thanks in Advance,
>Ray Lawson
>and Julian Castle (why waste $$ when you can mooch)


For the posrter and for anyone else interested - the reason this happens
is because messages are propogated throughout the net from thousands of
different machines via thousands of different routes, and therefore they
arrive in different orders in different machines.

Mike
From: angst@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Billy Mumy (WAS Re: DC: Doom Patrol Annotations (long))
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:51:37 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Michael S. Schiffer writes:

>>#38, "Lost in Space"

>>The title is that of an American children's science-fiction television
>>show from the sixties and seventies (?).  Warning, Will Robinson!

>As an aside, I note that Bill Mumy, who played Will Robinson on
>the show, is now a comics creator-- writer, I'm pretty sure, but
>not absolutely.

More Billy Mumy trivia: he wrote/sang a very strange song called "Fish Heads",s
sometime in the early eighties (I think).  The chorus went:

	Fish heads, Fish heads,
	Roly-poly fish heads,
	Eat them up, yum!

Andy
From: riceball@west.darkside.com (Riceball)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Image: Youngblood 1-3 to be polybagged...
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:24:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: west.ZJJ7iB1w165w
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy) writes:

> 
> Went down to pick up my comics tonight + the
>  clerk told me an interesting tibdit about
>  Youngblood.  Even let me read the newsletter.
> 
> Paraphrased from Heroes World Distributing Co's
>  "Love Notes" of April 9:
> 
> Various people at Image are now saying that 
>  Youngblood #1 2 + 3 will be released as a set
>  in a polybag.  It seems possible that #1 will
>  not be released separately, but the article 
>  was vague on that point.
> 
   Makes perfect sense to me.  Look how long Youngblood #1 was delayed.  
It's 3rd or 4th shipping date is now scheduled for this week (week of 
April 13).  Wasn't it supposed to come out in early march-late february.  
Considering the delays (supposedly printing delays, probably due to more 
orders than they expected, which means there will be too many copies in 
circulation again), they may as well bag them as a set.
 
   Considering how so many people are complaining and flaming Liefeld, it 
really shouldn't matter.  Those who like him are going to buy Youngblood 
whether it's polybagged or put out in singles.  Those who are complaining 
now will complain some more and then, if they buy the polybagged issues 
and don't like them (which is more than likey), they'll complaing some 
more and blame Liefeld on it - as if he had any control over printing 
delays and packaging forms.  Don't forget marketing divisions take care 
of that sort of stuff, not the creators.
 
  If one cannot spend $6 or so dollars for 3 issues of a comic one may 
actually like and go without a week's supply of Twinkies or Pepsi from 
the school snack bar or workplace vending machine, then there's little 
hope for that person.
From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Matt Wagner's LotDK #28-30
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:54:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>> IMHO, an excellent story. I loved the ending where the two two-faces met.
>> Wagner draws a truly hideous two-face.
>> Highly recommended fair even if you don't like Wagner's art.
>> Anybody know what he'll be doing next?

    I truly believe that this was the best LOTDK story we've seen print.
There have been many really bad ones, but this one topped even the best ones.
I'm a huge Wagner fan, so I'm definately biased, but I really dug his artwork
here.  And as was mentioned before, even if you don't like his art, you can't
deny the great story.  I especially liked the ending.  I too highly recommend
this series.


>Hopefully that ol' Mage II will be coming out any day now.

    Unfortunately, that's not too likely.  Dark Horse, supposedly has just
gotten the rights the Grendel and Mage, so Grendel will see print soon.
However, Mage is aimed for the summer of '93.  It shoudl be worth the wait.  I
remember hearing about some of his ideas in the summer of '88.

-- 

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From: davidc@quark.ansto.gov.au (David Carroll)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Casting JC
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:50:23 GMT
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation

How 'bout Mickey Rourke to play Constantine? His role in 'Angel Heart'
was pretty close, and he did it well.

I second Geena Davis as Death

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From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:39:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>How about this overused line: "I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I
>do best isn't very nice.  I have an adamantium-laced skeleton and claws and a
>mutant healing factor..."  This one's used more often than the psychic knife
>bit.

    No the most overused and annoying line that I've read in all the X-books
(especially the Claremont issues) is:

            "Your funeral, bub!"


    Aghhh!!!!  If I ever see that line I scream in pain!!!  All the X-folk now
talk like Wolvie!!!  Please end this pain, someone!!!


-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare)
Subject: CEREBUS: question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:49:48 GMT

Long time Cerebus fans may think this a dumb question, but how does the big
C disappear at the start of Mothers and Daughters #4?  Also, is he able to
fly or what?


-- 
William ("Shakespeare") Gulstad          /  So where are the C.S. babes?
wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                /  Joni Mitchell for President!
I vote, so I can complain!               /  Did you vote?  Then don't complain!
Republican is the opposite of democracy! /  Tune in, drop out, log on.
From: gl1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Greg G Levrault)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Nightwing and Starfire (Spoilers)
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:32:40 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

now wait a minute?  Why can't there be a triangle after Nightwing and
Starfire marry?  It would be more interesting, or at least, more
original.  How many superhero marriages have been held up by "the other
woman"?  I think it would be neat to see someone as noble as Nightwing
involved in infidelity.  Or, even more, an affair with Mirage could
scare Nightwing into marriage.

As long as Wolfman and Peterson don't mess it up(shyeaaaaaaaaa, RIGHT!)
it might be the best thing to come out of all this yet.

Besides the wildebaby....
From: jap@acsu.buffalo.edu (James A. Perreault)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: New Universe Opinions
Date: 5 Apr 92 15:19:23 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <167BC13BED.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:
> 
>I was disappointed by the Quasar issue, though.  It wasn't what I was expecting
> 

So was I.  The reason though, was that it was a Quasar issue and it was
written in Quasar style.  The members of D.P.7 were just there, lacking
most of the characterization that made their series so special.  And
in a one issue guest shot, you really can't do much character development
that was the heart and sole of D.P.7 .

In short, Quasar was the focus of the issue, and not D.P.7 and thats why
I felt disapointed.

I will remark that I think that Mark Gruenwald does his best work when
he's not limited with what he can do with the characters.  His
Squadron Supreme and D.P.7 ( and to a lesser degree, Quasar ) are much more
interesting than his Captain America.  His Capatain America has
been pretty much stagnant for the past 50 issues now.


							Jim
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: A Coupla Thoughts...
Reply-To: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 21:34:49 GMT

In article <lsqjwpr.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
> goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb):
> >Cable is an amnesiac time traveler.
> 
> When he remembers this, he will use his special power to scan the possible 
> future of each X-Man in order to identify the traitor.  Each possible
> future will be the subject of a different annual.

And despite the X-Men annual clearly showing the traitor to have green eyes, the
traitor will turn out to be Cyclops.

"When it's time to change seats: 'Bite one more of my fingers off and say
goodbye to your other eyeball!'"  --Mister Boffo
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: 01klcampbell@bsu-ucs.uucp (Kenton Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JLA #62
Date: 5 Apr 92 01:57:05 GMT

In article <1783@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
> BTW I like Dr. Light's costume in Yellow and Power Girl had and has
> a horrid costume.  E.M. has a horrid costume as well but I do like
> the amsk - it suits his character as a swashbuckling adventurer.
> Too bad Dick Dillin was not still alive - he designed GREAT costumes!

I agree!  I clearly remember Dillin's death when I was a child.  He was
the first person to make comic book creators "real" for me.  

> [If you have not heard of Dick Dillin you probably have not
> read JL for 10 years now]

For those of you who don't know, Dillin drew 100+ issues of the original
JLA consecutively, quite possibly a record in comic book history.


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