HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: spinoza@next03wor.wam.umd.edu (Prince Lev of the Domovoi)
Subject: Re: Sorry I didn't impress you geeks,but that really wasn't the intent
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:02:45 GMT

In article <901371d.703094083@aucs> 901371d@aucs.acadiau.ca (Di Dio)  
writes:
> 
>  So I didn't proof read the fuck'n letter,if you couldn't get the  
message
> well then I fucked up,but I would say the message was more then clear  
man
> ,as clear as any opion that needs to be spoken.Well I do really regret  
posting
> such an unedited letter to such a group of intellectuals who to me see  
to scaredto express there feeling in this group.I want to shout my  
words,gramatically
> correct or otherwise,I could care less,I'm not here to impress anyone,
> I live for myself and NOBODY ELSE.I'm not some tough headbanger that  
fells
> like he has to shake his head when ever he feels that it's the thing to  
do.But
> I'm not against it either,or any other "social regect",call it what you  
want
> So start speeking you mind,this news group wasn't made to be fuck'n  
conservative
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> The stick that stands alone is the strongest.
>                                               -Dio


Somehow, this post reminds me of Liza the computer. Liza was an experiment  
in AI; she produced sentences composed of random utterances just like the  
newest net WonderBoy. In some cases, it was difficult to tell the  
difference between Liza and a poster like the one who posted the drivel  
above.
 True, Liza used correct grammar, spelling, and didn't have the inability  
to complete a sentence without the word "fuck" and all that, but perhaps  
they've neglected her maintenance lately?
Or maybe the poster in question is in actuality a  closet NetBibleThumper,  
out to make all Satanists look like pathetic fools?



lev
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Say-tan-ism?
Summary: you kid surely?
Keywords: nah not today thanks
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:48:06 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

With all due respect, the arguments I've read here with regard to what
Satanism is read as just so much sophistry. There is nothing in what
I've read that validates the use of the word Satanism. All the
philosopies espoused have are simply re-hashes of purely secular ones.
The claim that it is the philosophy which counts is belied by the name.
Satanism. The word implies belief in and worship of an entity. The image of
Satanism is mainly taken from the Malleus Maleficarum, a product of the
Christian faith. The concept of Satan as an entity is taken from the
Christian faith. As I remember the old testament refers to 'a satan'.
Uncapitalised. Not an individual and furthermore subservient to the
God. In short it seems to me (a *neutral - I don't really care either
way* outsider) that the only thing which it accrues you is indeed that
image. And perhaps the opportunity to tell people who think you baby
eating, blood drinking maniacs how wrong they are? 

Anyways, just impressions. If you think I'm way out of line please
remember: a flame might make me laugh but an intelligent response will
make me think. Responses are welcome.

Ollie...

'serpent jesus/snake of christ/nailed to a cross of holy design' danzig 
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: hoagy@engin.umich.edu (Matthew Rupert)
Subject: Re: You guys are full of shit,both christian and satanists
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 17:16:22 EDT
Organization: Kampus Krusade for Kush
Keywords: Twit, idiot, fool, moron, turkey, illiterate, bozo, mutton-head

In a previous article, jhbrown@athena.mit.edu (Jeremy H Brown) wrote:
>Let's all hear it for coherent, well-thought-out arguments presented
>in a literate, convincing fashion.
>
>Jeremy
>

Indeed.  Gooder grammar is always a welcome refreshment on this group.
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From: 901371d@aucs.acadiau.ca (Di Dio)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: You guys are full of shit,both christian and satanists
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:43:16 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I've read one version of the Satanic Bible by Anton.And some other book
of the raising of the dead called Necromicon.They were interesting,but 
fuck how can you believe any of that bulshit.Especially the fuckiing
bible,for all you christians,god can suck my dick.
 I don't believe in Satan or god,but the Satanic bible is alot more
realistic.I mean if you alway treat someone the way you would like them to treat you ,well if he stabs you in the back,and you tell him,oh please don't
do it again ,I fogive you and all the other shit,he's just do it again.
 I also think that those fucking priests are just a bunch of fucking leaches
.You see them asking for money all the fucking time,who the fuck do you think
you are yopu buch of low lifes,get a fucking jog!!!!
Well that's enough on my opion,I don't want to get to carried away.
 And for Satanism,well I don't see anything wrong with it at all,there
may be no such thing as either god but atleast the satanist mean what they say,
you fuckin Crister's tell everyone to live in poverty it's the way of the lord
,so can I have a new car and house curtisy of the church funds and goverment taxs please.Well if I has in charge,I'd tell you where to get you money.
 Fuck I guess I'm finding it hard to get off the subject of Christian,I
think it's because I live with three of them in a house,and they have this
problem that they are always right because god is with them.
Well fuck you,you bunch of fucking simple minded weirdo's
And that goes for you to Mr. CHristain Society asshole,that's a personal
boys'he'll know who he is.

Well there is only one more word of the day I guess

HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL HAIL   



SATAN
From: cl2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles Anthony Leone)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Raising Satanic children
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:12:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Ids0TEO00awS90149b
	<92096.212746HISJMA@BYUVM.BITNET>
Organization: Senior, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

**************************************
1.  Is it or is it not the case that the whole idea of Satan (whether or
not one accepts Satan as an actual being) arises out of certain Judeo-
Christian ideas about good and evil, the "cosmic struggle," etc.?
*************************************

Nope. The name is Judeo-Christian, but the character is found in every
religion in history. EVERYONE has a "bad guy" in their religion.

****************************************
2.  If it *is* the case, then does this not also mean that one who calls
him/herself a Satanist--whether or not it has anything to do with ritual
sacrifice and other unpleasant details--has to accept (perhaps
unconsciously) certain assumptions that are basically Judeo-Christian?
****************************************

Well, #1 is *not* the case. And No, we do NOT accept any Judeo-Christian
assumptions. It's one reason why we argue so much.

*************************************
3.  If *that* is the case, then it seems that at some level any self-
professing Satanist has sort of turned the tables on Pascal's wager.
You accept a certain view of the world, but decide to follow a path
contrary to that followed by most who accept that view of the world . . .
Here, frankly, is where I get a bit fuzzy.
*************************************

#2 is not the case either. We follow our own path that has nothing to do
with that of those "others." They call our path contrary, but the truth
is that it's just a different path from theirs. Christians are naturally
intolerant of any path other than their own (Commandment #1 mandates
this), so they dutifully make it look like we're some kind of deviants
from their perfect norm.

I can't speak for any Jews, but I will point out that I've never
discussed religion with one.

________________
Tony L.

8^\)
________________
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: chungkuo@ais.org (Shawn FitzGerald)
Subject: Re: Satan was a weenie
Keywords: penis, phallus
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:57:16 GMT

>
>You guys have a lot to learn about reality. Jesus is lord and you all
>are damned to hell. I hope you and your children rot and burn for eternity.
>


And I see you have a very Christian attitude about the whole thing. Sins of
the father and all that? How quaint. I am not a Christian, I used to be.
Even if you were a neo-nazi pig I wouldn't wish evil on your children.
Myself not being a Christian, I don't believe in Hell. However, from the
amount of hate in your post, I would be willing to guess that if there *is*
a Hell, you will be watching those you have condemmed burn.

This is a flame. Very satanic, eh?


-- 
   Shawn FitzGerald           |   chungkuo@ais.org
   (Rational Romantic         |   University of Michigan
    Mystic Cynical Idealist)  |   Computing Club
"I love you so I keep dreaming . . ." -Bananas, _The House of Blue Leaves_
From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Raising Satanic children
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:55:06 GMT
Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney)
Organization: Smiling at George Bush's Physical Inadequacy

In article <92096.212746HISJMA@BYUVM.BITNET> J MICHAEL ALLEN
<HISJMA@BYUVM.BITNET> writes:
>1.  Is it or is it not the case that the whole idea of Satan (whether or
>not one accepts Satan as an actual being) arises out of certain Judeo-
>Christian ideas about good and evil, the "cosmic struggle," etc.?

It is not the case.  Every religion has its demons.  Satan is merely
one that entered Judaism from Egyptian religion.  Satanism takes a
pancultural view that embraces the demons of various religions.  All of
them represent what some religion feared and suppressed by force; all
represent some valid psychological energy which was inconvenient to
some king or guru.

>2.  If it *is* the case, then does this not also mean that one who calls
>him/herself a Satanist--whether or not it has anything to do with ritual
>sacrifice and other unpleasant details--has to accept (perhaps
>unconsciously) certain assumptions that are basically Judeo-Christian?

N/A

>3.  If *that* is the case, then it seems that at some level any self-
>professing Satanist has sort of turned the tables on Pascal's wager.
>You accept a certain view of the world, but decide to follow a path
>contrary to that followed by most who accept that view of the world . . .

N/A

>I am perfectly willing to acknowledge that I am no expert in matters
>Satanic.  I also repeat that I am sincerely interested in insights
>on these questions.  That is why I have asked for enlightenment.

Then why have you already answered questions #1 and #2 for yourself?
And wrong?
-- 
Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com

"The Diabolonian position is new to the London playgoer of today, but not to
 lovers of serious literature.  From Prometheus to the Wagnerian Siegfried,
 some enemy of the gods, unterrified champion of those oppressed by them, has
 always towered among the heroes of the loftiest poetry."
    - Shaw, "On Diabolonian Ethics"
From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: moniker(sp?) curiosity
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:02:30 GMT
Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney)
Organization: A Veritable Smorgasbord of Nefarious Pleasures

In article <1992Apr5.054815.10648@panix.com>, rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding) 
writes:
>> Read the Satanic Bible. 

In article <1992Apr6.052643.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>I repeat:  not all Satanists read the _Satanic Bible_!! Please, I have enough
>trouble explaining to non-Satanists that not everyone does, and here you are
>making it worse by acting as if everyone does!
>
>I try to make it clear that not all of those who call themselves "Satanists"
>will agree with me. If I can show you that much respect, can you do the same?

Actually, no, he can't.  Mr. Radding is a mouthpiece for Mr. LaVey, and
as such, is irrevocably committed to the LaVeyite party line that only
LaVey can make a "real Satanist".  Anyone not recognized by the Church
of Satan is not a Satanist, according to Mr. Radding.  This viewpoint
was recently taken to task and eventually annihilated on a few FidoNet
echoes (NightSide and Base of Set), with the result that Mr. Radding
began desperately pleading that the subject be changed.  Goddess forbid
that he should disagree with Church of Satan dogma, no matter how
effectively it may be punctured!

It doesn't matter to those of us who are Satanists outside of LaVey's
purview, of course.  We know what and who we are.  And the more LaVey's
crowd clings to this exclusivism, the more we know what they are, and
why they are becoming more and more irrelevant.
-- 
Tim Maroney, Communications and User Interface Engineer
{apple!sun}!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com

"I was bitter when I met you, I was eloquent with rage...." -- Annie Lennox
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: earendil@newview.etsu.edu (Allen Garvin)
Subject: Re: questionnaire
Reply-To: earendil@newview.etsu.edu (Allen Garvin)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:31:51 GMT

         1. B - athiest
         2. He's not really a bad person, he's just misunderstood.
         3. E - I don't want to go to class (DOWN WITH ENGLISH LIT!)
         4. E - But I think the necronomicon has a strong plot.
         5. Christianity is irrelevant (But Satanism is irreverent)
         6. F - alt.religion.computers, alt.jubjub
         7. Sometimes to make my mother happy I go to the First Baptist Church.
         8. *PUKE* No. Actually I listen to some gospel, like the Soul 
                 Stirrers (with Sam Cooke) or Dorothy Coates. Black Gospel is
                 a truly underrated form of American Music. I think many
                 people avoid merely because of its Christian origin, even 
                 though they may claim to love its derivatives, like 60's
                 soul.
         9. My walls are covered with bookshelves.
         10. I own mostly vinyl, but my record player does not allow one to
                 easily play records backwards. I tried it once with "Puff
                 the Magic Dragon" but all I got out of that was a sore arm.
         11. Refer to #8
         12. My religious leanings came from "Surfin' Bird" by the Trashmen.
                 It was from there that I learned the true meaning of
                 The Word.
         13. Played D&D in junior high.
         14. 23
         15. C - Hermaphrodyte from the planet Lorax
         16. How do YOU spell "Satan"?
         17. D - Never (unfortunately)
         18. Nope
         19. I quit when I discovered they were releasing the names of their
                    members to the Publisher's Clearing House mailing list.
         20. Never
         21. A - in complete seriousness

          -Earendil

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Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: hoagy@engin.umich.edu (Matthew Rupert)
Subject: Re: Even More Satan Jokes!
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 09:28:05 EDT
Organization: Kampus Krusade for Kush

>
>Refrain from making jokes about Christ (susej).  Refrain from saying
>that Satan is a Christian god.  He's not.  Isn't that simple?  I'll
>continue to read, but I won't post.  Break the condition, and my grubby
>little fingers will start to dance over the keyboard again.


But why? Christ is so much fun to poke fun.  

Know why he can't eat M&M's?

Keep falling through the holes in his hands.
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From: J024330@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Joshua my note to you bounced
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:48:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: eagle.9204081348.AA13460


                                        PROFS Nickname: CCOLVIN
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FROM: Chris Colvin                      O/27-A1 B/509 4-6617
                                        PROFS Nickname: CCOLVIN
SUBJECT: Joshua my note to you bounced

Please send your e-mail address. I tried to e-mail you at
Joshua@wiretap.wiretap.spies.com, but my note bounced.  Have a
question about your ID.

Chris
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From: penner@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nichola J. Penner)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: SurVey
Keywords: questionnaire
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:27:54 GMT
Organization: UB

rtsumn01@ulkyvx03.louisville.edu (Shaitan) writes:
> 1. What religion are you?

	i consider myself to be a wiccan.  

> 2. If you are a Satanist, how would you describe your attitude towards Satan?

	i am not a satanist, but i believe satan to be purely the fallen angel
from christian teachings who has been turned into a god because of his
rebellion in heaven.  satan has also been used by the church elders to label
anything they didn't trust (the pagan god of the hunt) as belonging to the
devil. 

> 3. What is your main purpose in reading this newsgroup?

	i have often been called a satanist, and i feel i should find out what
it is that i "supposedly" do. :^)

> 4. What is your opinion of _The Satanic Bible_?

	from the little that i have seen, it seemed to me to be capitalism in
the extreme.  i.e. get what you want and stomp on whoever gets in your way...

> 5. Agree/disagree:  the teachings of Christianity are wrong.

	i won't say they are wrong, but i will say they are behind the times,
sexist, homophobic and that they like to label anyone who doesn't fit into
their beliefs as evil/spawn of satan/a sinner and so on...

> 6. What other newsgroups do you read?

	i used to read alt.pagan and alt.mythology, but the high traffic of
these boards forced me to unsubscribe.

> 7. Do you attend a religious forum (such as church) regularly?

	no, but every so often my mother whines for me to come home for rosh
hashana or yom kippur.  she asked me to come home for passover but i declined.

> 8. Do you listen to heavy metal?

	i like led zepplin and some queensryche.

> 9. Do you have any Pink Floyd posters?

	no.

>10. Do you deliberately reverse your tapes and listen to them backwards?

	i did try and listen to stairway to heaven backwards but it only
sounded like a song played backwards. :^)

>11. Have demons visited you while/after listening to heavy metal?

	not that i noticed. :^)

>12. Do you attribute your religion to backwards masking on Led Zeppelin's
>    "Stairway to Heaven"?

	no.

>13. Do you play fantasy role-playing games?

	i was invited to play D&D once but i didn't enjoy it very much.

>14. How old are you?

	20.

>15. What gender are you?

	female

>16. How do you spell "Satan"?

	george bush ;^)

>17. How often do you participate in orgies?

	not at all, yet...	

>18. Have you read the works of celebrated Christian talk-show host Bob Larson?

	who??? (no.)

>19. Are you a member of a nationwide Satanic organization plotting to take
>    over the government?

	not the last time i checked.

>20. Do you wear a religious symbol?  If so, please list.

	i do wear a pentacle, hence the reason people think i am a satanist.
but the star i wear is not inverted.

>21. Do you take this survey seriously?

	not overly, but i decided to answer anyway. :^)


			kalypso
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: djohnson@gamma.is.tcu.edu (Darryl Johnson)
Subject: Re: 2 Raising Satanic children
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas Christian University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 09:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr02.081537.1834@liebe.uucp>, kevin@liebe.uucp (Kevin Brawley) writes...
>rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>A note:  Yahweh has a long history of hardening hearts, even those of his own
>>followers. I refer you to your bible for confirmation.  
> 
>Wrong again human.  It is the man who hardens his own heart.  God lets man
>make his own choices otherwise there wouldn't be any point for existence.
> 
Exodus 7:3 "But I will make the king stubborn, and he will not listen
to you, no matter how many terrifying things I do in Egypt."
Exodus 9:12 "But the Lord made the king stubborn and, just as the
Lord had said, the king would not listen to Moses and Aaron"
Exodus 10:20 "But the Lord made the king stubborn, and he did not
let the Israelites go"
Exodus 10:27 "The Lord made the king stubborn, and he would not let
them go."

>>subcategory of women? Yes, we all know the bible is misogynous, and immoral
>>as well. Not that I have a problem with immorality, but most Christians do. 
> 
>A perfect example of the need to intentionally misconstrue what another has
>written due to not having a reasonable point to make (ie. in this paragraph
>you attempted to manufacture sexism).

Ecclesiastes 7:26 "I found something more bitter than death -- woman.
The love she offers you will catch you like a trap or like a net; and
her arms around you will hold like a chain.  A man who pleases God
can get away, but she will catch the sinner."
Ecclesiastes 7:28 "I have looked for answers, but have found none.
I found one man in a thousand that I could respect, but not one
woman."

Obviously another example of the Bible attempting to misconstrue
ITSELF.

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