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From: aryk@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (A.J.S. Nusbacher)
Subject: Re: I have yet to meet a Jewish murderer.
Organization: University of Toronto -- Hart House
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:33:43 GMT

In article <LGOLD.92Sep1151510@callahans.Cadence.COM> lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) writes:

>In modern times, there's always David Leibowitz, aka "Son of Sam."
>
>--Lynn

Or David Berkowitz, aka "Son of Sam".

Aryk
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Another Wedding (was Re: weddings on Saturday???)
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:47:34 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

In <BtLpzG.127@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> aryk@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (A.J.S. Nusbacher) writes:

>Seen on the programme at the wedding of Jonathan Rosner and Hindee Alpert
>in Lawrence, NY last week:

I suppose we'll start seeing wedding programmes here in Israel in a
few years.  I've seen sheets of explanations of what is going on, but
never a programme.  Do they look like Playbills?  Ads from, well after
a play people go out for drinks or dinner, what do the guests do after
the wedding that might be advertized there?  Gift shops for people who
haven't bought them a present yet?
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From: aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller)
Subject: Re: ISRAEL LINE
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 10:57:53 GMT



>
>In article <1992Aug27.230853.1164@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes:
>>
>>   Has anyone seen Israel line?



I received the 26th and 28th.
 
Marlene Miller
aa324@yfn.ysu.edu




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From: aryk@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (A.J.S. Nusbacher)
Subject: Re: Mac David
Organization: University of Toronto -- Hart House
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:44:32 GMT

In article <Bu26BM.MBI@encore.com> amarkel@encore.com (Arieh Markel) writes:
><EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>First, the gyros does not have the meat inserted into the pita, but has the
>pita rolled around the bread.

Many restaurants do this with felafel and shawarma.  I realise that this
sounds like heresy, but remember that the very same restaurants probably 
don't have jars of Fox's U-Bet, either.

Aryk Nusbacher
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From: jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: more of ...can of worms....
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:59:13 GMT

In article <ALLEN.92Aug27081545@golem.ssc.gov> allen@ssc.gov writes:
>Ah yes, the infinite depth of learning contained in our Torah.  And
>where do we learn that HaShem takes `X' when He plays tic-tac-toe with
>the Jewish people?  As it says: "HaShem O's leamoh ytein".
  Not to mention tehillim 13:6 (psukei d'zimrah) "I will sing
  to Hashem because there is a camel on top of me."
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: more of ...can of worms....
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:09:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Aug27.193506.29722@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <BtnBH5.I0w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:

			......................

>The heresy is in believing that the 10 Commandments is all there is to
>God's Word.  His word is all of the Torah, and denying that is grave
>heresey, indeed.  Yes, the two tablets didn't have anything else on
>them, and yes they were carries in the Ark of the Covenant.  But that
>is NOT all of God's Words, and it is NOT all of His Law.  To believe
>otherwise is wrong, and to teach othewise is heresey.

Where did anyone say that they are all of God's word?  But the precise
wording of Deuteronomy states that only they were given directly to the
people, and that Moses received other commandments.  However, the Five
Books have much besides commandments, and the accuracy of some of the
contents has been questioned as possibly being the literal word of God.
In addition, these state nothing about an Oral Law.  

What others, and I, have claimed is that there is reasonable dispute over
exactly what is God's Law, and that one must investigate what God meant,
and what those who wrote it down thought God meant.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
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From: stephenp@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stephen Phillips)
Subject: Re: Blowing The Shofar At Home During Elul
Cc: stephenp@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: stephenp@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:26:01 +0000


> +From         : jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein)
> 
> There is nothing stopping you from doing it all year round, or eating
> matzah and waving a lulav right after :)

There most certainly is, if the reason for the extra blowing ot
waving is for the Mitzvah and not merely for practise. It
transgresses the Torah injunction of "Bal Toseif", not adding to the
Torah.



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From: sg04@ploni.gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Responsa Project
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:41:11 GMT
Reply-To: sgutfreund@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

Is there any internet access to the Responsa Project?
To the sources?

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From: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Reply-To: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Organization: SUNYA School of Public Health, Albany, NY
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 19:15:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.173209.25085@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.170640.27211@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal) writes:
>
>[Concerning Hitler and Stalin]
>
>> I have to agree with Pawel here.  Hitler wanted to kill all Jews.
>> Just because they were Jews, even Jews who had converted or if they
>> only had one Jewish parent or grandparent.
>>
>> Stalin probably resulted in many Jewish deaths, but I doubt that
>> as many, and not because they were Jews.
>
>I thought the main difference between Stalin and Hitler concerning the
>Jews was that Stalin died just as he was ready to start *his* own
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Jewish genocide plan. 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Another difference is that Stalin already had years of experience at
>mass murdering people.  Discussing who was a worse human being strikes
>me as rather pointless.
>
>R
>
>--
>Robert A. Levene     Internet: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
>  "/  //  / /"         Bitnet:   RXL1@APLVM

  We are not discussing "who was a worse human being" since it
is irrelevant, indeed.

  It is equally irrelevant to try to guess what would have happend
had Stalin lived longer or what was on his mind when he was
dying.  The fact remains that majority of polish Jews which survived
the war did so because Stalin rounded them up and sent to Siberia,
but not to the death camps. In 1939, when Poland was divided
between Germany and Soviet Unions some Jews which found themselves
on the Soviet side chose to cross the border and be on the German
side. They thought that it would be better to be under 'civilized'
German occupation and perished inevitably.

                              Pawel Penczek
From: naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Mac David
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:08:23 +0200
Keywords: hamburger
Organization: University of Cape Town

In article <1992Aug24.150657.29139@prl.dec.com>, amos@prl.dec.com (Amos) writes:
> Well, I regreat that There isn't any Mac Donald's in Israel, even
> if it is not kosher.. 
> have you ever tasted a Mc DAVID's hamburger ? If I were you, I would not..
> 
> Anyway..
> 
> Amos.
> 
> 

How about starting an Israeli fast food chain called MacAbees! Ha Ha!
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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Torah In A Torah Context (was Re: more of ...can of worms....)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:49:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


Herman Rubin continues to dispute the Torah, claiming that there
aren't 4 rivers from the Garden of Eden. Leaving aside that nowhere in
the Torah does it say that these rivers will run forever, and that
rivers are constantly shifting, dying, etc, my Torah footnotes say
(Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan):

"Pishon: Some identify the Pishon with the Nile (Rashi). Others say it
was the Ganges or the Indus (Josephus, Abarbanel). Rabbi Aaron Marcus
identifies it with the Karun, which flows through Iran into the
Persian Gulf (Keseth Hasofer 121a). He also notes that the flow of
these rivers could have been changed drastically by the Great Flood."

(Land of) "Havilah: Some identify this with India (Josephus, Antiquities
1:1:3; Targum Yonathan). Marcus, however, identifies it with an area
on the Persian Gulf. ... Significantly, there is a city Havelian on
the upper Indus River, between Kashmir and Pakistan.

"Gihon: Josephus identifies it with the Nile (Antiquities 1:1:3).
Rabbi Aaron Marcus says that some identify it with the Amu-dar'ya,
which flows from Afghanistan into the Aral Sea in Russia, and once
flowed into the Caspian Sea (Keseth HaSofer 61a, 62a). He says it
might also be the Qezal Owzan River, which flows northward through
Iran into the Caspian Sea, or the Khabur, a tributary of the Euphrates
flowing through Syria."

"Tigris: Hiddekel in Hebrew. In Arabic, the Tigris is the Dicle or
Dijla (cf. Targum).
Euphrates. P'rath in Hebrew. In arabic the Euphrates is currently
known as the Firat, al Farat, and al Furat."

Thus we see yet again that Rubin makes dogmatic statements entirely
without any research, when there are perfectly good explanations. If
he pulled this in Statistics, they'd want to take back his Ph.D. Too
bad his Bar Mitzvah can't be taken back. :-)

The arrogance of the man's statements is only exceeded by their ignorance.

David
From: aplebaum@shum.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Woody and Soon Yi
Date: 30 Aug 92 12:38:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel

In article <1992Aug20.182513.8080@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
|> 
|> Let others debate the question of whether this constitutes incest;
|> surely the question that WE must pose is:
|> will she convert?

First, I'd like to see Woody convert ...
(he doesn't act/talk like a jew)

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: KILL MUGABE?
Keywords: anti-semitism
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:28:50 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

In <1992Aug25.154803.202503@uctvax.uct.ac.za> naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

>What should we do about this. Personally I would like to kill Mugabe the
>bastard and in fact I feel that Jews should form an organization to hunt down
>ant-semites and punish them physically.

Yet another posting that calls on us (who have our own war, thank you)
to get involved in someone else's because one of the sides in the
conflict is anti-Semitic.

Fortunately this is just the net, not the real world, and since Mugabe
doesn't post anyway ...
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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Headaches during major fasts (was: Smoking ...)
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:48:12 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)

I was waiting for Herman to rebut, so I could add clarifications on
what we're talking about.  Anyway...

In article <86745@netnews.upenn.edu>, weemba@sagi (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
>In article <57441@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hrubin@pop (Herman Rubin) writes:
>>>Filling up on starches (potatoes, noodles, etc) are a good idea, as they
>>>take longer to break down.

>>This could be considered as old doctor's tales.  Anyhow, about 10 years
>>ago, this was thoroughly debunked, and the articles appeared in refereed
>>conservative medical and scientific journals.  [...]

>I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.  The aim is not to slow
>down digestion so much as to plan for your reserves. [...]

Another problem is that nutritional research often has a highly skewed
connection with real people.  To analyze a subsystem of our digestion is
fine, but not necessarily relevant.  Researchers typically measure the
digestion for previously fasting subjects.  Since what is going on is a
complex dynamical system involving enzymes and food, I wouldn't have too
much expectation that the same answers apply to more typical 25-hour fast
preparation.  Nor does a blood level measurement distinguish, say, between
breakdown products that have been consumed by your cells, or merely stored.

All of this means that I would prefer "old doctors' (and rabbis') tales"
for generic fasting questions, not because the researchers are incompetent
--far from it--but because the subject is still too difficult to reduce to
direct, controlled investigation.

>But the actual details are not as important as your own psychological
>readiness.  Hunger is partly real, partly mental.  [...]

And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that psychological readiness for a
fast actually affects the "real" hunger, in that appropriate enzyme levels
are modified.  There could even be a placebo effect to my statement about
starches.  Nothing wrong with that!

>>Due to my own medical conditions, it is important for me to know this.

>Of course, anyone with medical conditions should ignore my blather. [...]

One example would be someone who overproduces insulin.  My advice, to fill
up on starches, could easily backfire, producing cravings.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: wedding on Saturday??
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:41:43 GMT

In article <BtnKFw.Dwt@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> aryk@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (A.J.S. Nusbacher) writes:
>Anybody know why Israeli rabbis won't perform a marriage during the daytime?
>
>Aryk Nusbacher

  Typically, it would be a late afternoon wedding (there are no Sundays
  in Israel) and they don't want any doubts as to which day the wedding
  occured.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Torah In A Torah Context (was Re: more of ...can of worms....)
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:55:50 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug31.182317.678185@locus.com> hayim@locus.com (Hayim Hendeles) writes:
>
>Someone showed me an article in one of the most newsworthy newspapers
>in America (it was either the Enquirer, the Star, or Globe - I forget
>which), which brings down definitive proof that the Garden of Eden is
>in the area of Denver, Colorado. Apparently, they discovered 2
>skeletons that appeared to be connected at the ribs, which the
>"experts" have concluded defintively were Adam and Eve.  Therefore, the
>area in which the skeletons were found, near Denver, must be the
>general area where the Garden of Eden is located.

Just as likely as anything else.  Noah's Ark could have journeyed
anywhere in the 40 days that it was being tossed about in the storms
of the Great Flood.  Just because it landed on Mt. Arrarat, doesn't
mean that it was built in that area.

And I still think that it's very unlikely (if not impossible) that the
four rivers through Eden would exist after the Flood.  With a flood
that covered the Earth, all rivers would have changed.  After all, the
gound (at the time, being the ocean floor) would have shifted
significantly, creating new channels for the water to go, and filling
in the old ones.


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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: more of ...can of worms....
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:35:06 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BtnBH5.I0w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>>A recital of the the Ten Commandments (really "Aseret HaDebrot", the
>>Ten Utterances) used to be part of the morning services.  It was
>>removed, and its re-insertion forbidden, during Temple times because
>>certain heretical groups denied that anything but the Decalogue was
>>from G-d.  Again it is seems that the Reform Movement offers nothing
>>new; just a repackaging of the same old heresy that has bothered the
>>Jewish people for 3300 years.
>
>But that is what D'varim 5 states!  At the end of the giving of the
>Decalogue, when the people accept it with fear and trembling, they 
>are dismissed by God, who asks Moses to remain and receive the rest
>of His Mitzvoth.  So while it states that Moses received additional
>Mitzvoth, and presumably communicated them to the people, it does
>state that only the Decalogue was given to the people directly by God.

What I learned from my 8 years of Yeshiva grade school and High school
was that the first of the 10 commandments were spoken directly to the
people by God ("I am the Lord..."), and the people were so afraid that
the other 9 were dictated to Moses and he spoke them to the people.
The rest was given to Moses, who wrote it down in parchment.

>We can learn something by studying the history of other religions.
>They are replete with priests and interpreters adding more and more
>ritual and regulations to the religion, often obscuring the basics.
>It is generally agreed that the two tablets had nothing but the
>Decalogue written on them, and before the Exile, they were the
>contents of the ark in the Holy of Holies.  Which is the heresy?

The heresy is in believing that the 10 Commandments is all there is to
God's Word.  His word is all of the Torah, and denying that is grave
heresey, indeed.  Yes, the two tablets didn't have anything else on
them, and yes they were carries in the Ark of the Covenant.  But that
is NOT all of God's Words, and it is NOT all of His Law.  To believe
otherwise is wrong, and to teach othewise is heresey.

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From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:20:35 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <matthew.714799780@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Matthew Zalbiciewski) writes:

>I believe that 6 million Poles perished in WWII, around the same
>number as Jews. Please tell me I'm wrong Sam.
>
>MZ

You're wrong: 6 million POLISH CITIZENS have been killed during the WWII,
most of them were polish Jews.

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Targeting Jews
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:34:49 GMT

ms = MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni)
rs = schultz@garnet.berkeley.edu (Richard Schultz)
hr = hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rub

hr: Hillel summarized Judaism as
hr: What is hateful unto thee, do not unto thy neighbor.

rs: Interesting that Mr. Rubin should bring this up, as it's part of a long
rs: aggadatah in which Hillel demonstrates (among other things) that one has to
rs: accept the Oral Law as well as the Written Law.

ms: That is  odd.  The "long  aggadatah" is not so  long, and the  part of
ms: Hillel  in it  is also  rather  short.  Hillel  advised the  potential
ns: convert who wanted  to learn "all of the Torah"  while standing on one
ms: leg: "What is hateful to you do  not do to your neighbour, that is the
ms: Torah, all  the rest is commentary,  go and study".  So  where is here
ms: the "God  given Oral Law"? Anyhow  where is the Oral  Law mentioned at
ms: all?

While the story of the convert who wanted to learn the entire Torah on
one foot does not conclude with the necessity for the Oral Torah,
another story about Hillel which appears in the same place (bottom of
Shabbat 30b, continued on most of 31a, whether one considers this to
be long or not probably depends on how many feet one is standing on)
deals with another convert who wanted to only accept the Written
Torah, as well as a third who asked to be converted in order to become
a Cohen Gadol, and the nudnick who kept interrupting Hillel's bath to
ask him questions.  Hillel persuaded the second (actually the first in
the series, the impatient guy appears second in the Talmud) convert to
accept the Oral Torah and the third to alter his career plans.  And
the nudnick lost his bet for 400 zuz.
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From: gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)
Subject: Re:  Shofar stinks - Help
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:08:27 GMT

jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Joyce Morris) writes:
	My Father bought a shofar in late December.  He says it now smells very
	bad like something died in it.  How can he clean it so it no longer
	smells?  He is able to blow it with no problem.

Why doesn't he just not inhale <:-Q
From: MPlatt@medusa.unm.edu (Mark W. Platt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: substantiation of G-D
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:55:24 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Univ. New Mexico School Med

I have been asked to give the Yom Kippur Drasha. I have chosen to focus on
the anthropromorphism or (Miamonades) Substantiation and to tie this in
with the vision of books and inscrption in the book of life, does anyone
know of some sarting references apart from the guide to the perplexed?
A perplexed, Mark Platt