HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: re W Magro's posting
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 17:32:22 EST

In <7JAN93.12451328@cc4.crl.aecl.ca>, csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
> My argument is STILL valid even in light of your comments.
> I had stated that it was cheaper to dispose of STs than
> PCs over the last 7 years. Your argument that this does
> not apply to the present day situation because of PC
> upgradability ASSUMES that an Atari is not easily upgradable.
> Hey, I have recently boosted several TTs to 32 megs of
> RAM; they can be boosted to 64 megs. Graphics cards are
> pluggable, etc. You are assuming that Atari's will remain
> less upgradable than PCs. We shall have to wait and see.

You weren't paying much attention to Atari's last two "new" computers,
were you?  MegaSTe and Falcon030 are _barely_ classifiable as expandible
and upgradable.  There is a serious lack of modularity in Atari's
designs, and they don't seem to keen on fixing that shortcoming.  After
all, they've been listening to us complain about it for _at_least_ seven
years now.

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From: vovut@prism.CS.ORST.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: monochrome monitor for sale -> $65
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:29:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu


Monochrome monitor           $65 (shipping included)

Never had a problem with it.

Email if interested.

vovut@prism.cs.orst.edu
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From: spo@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Sporer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Hard Drive (wierd) Problem - Help!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:29:37 GMT
Organization: University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de

In article <72815@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>Michael Forget wrote about his Megafile making noises..
> 
>The second source of noise is a "ground strap" which serves to bleed
>off static electricity which would otherwise build up on the spinning
>platters.  The place where this strap contacts the end of the axle
>tends to wear, allowing the strap to vibrate and make noises.
> 
>This is not destructive, only annoying.

Not always: There are drives where this contact also is used for the motor.
Together with the noise the resistance increases and finaly the motor is
to "weak" th reach the correct speed. 
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From: mcsdc1ph@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Arcs and MSA help needed desperately!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:34:55 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology


Arghhh!

I'v been FTPing a lot these days, and have come across all the archived files
like ARC, ZOO, LZH, etc and have some problems.

Is it possible to extract files from an archive onto another disk?
Most of the stuff I try to unarchive tends to be 600000+ bytes in length, and
therefore obviously wont dearc onto the same disk!
Is there something special I have to do?  Is there a particular dearc that'll
do the job?   Preferably a .PRG file, as I hate .TTPs!

Ah.  The other problem!  MSA files. I have 2 un-msa-ers:MSA.PRG and shadow.prg.
What basically happens when I use it, is that at somepoint in the apalling
process of swapping disks constantly, the drive suddenly starts to make noise
more louder than I've ever heard, and it'll suddenly cough up an error and
accuse the msa file of being corrupted or something.  I have FTPd loads of MSA
files and none of them work.  It's really annoying as there are a lot of demos
out there that I really want to get like Overdose, erotica, etc....

I'd be extremely grateful for any help with these vague problems!

FeekZoid

  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dm@crash.cts.com (Dan Melson)
Subject: Wanted: Empire (or similar games)
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:19:49 GMT


Wanted: A copy of the ST Version of Empire.  If anybody is willing to sell theirs, please email me at dm@crash.cts.com or pnet01!dm@crash.cts.com.
 
I'd also be interested in any similar games, strategic-level military simulations where what you produce at various points is important.
 
For those who'd prefer mundane methods of contacting me, 619-464-8908.  (San Diego, California, area)
 
						DM

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: A.A.U.E
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:51:18 GMT

In article <1in94sINNphq@life.ai.mit.edu> dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:
>In article <C0Lp26.4zD@ecf.toronto.edu> alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR) writes:
>>Anybody know if anything is wrong with the server at atari.archive.umich.edu?
>
>Use the wuarchive.wustl.edu mirror instead of ftping directly to a.a:
>
>	wuarchive.wustl.edu: mirrors/archive.umich.edu/atari/...
>
>It's updated daily.
>
>Dave Baggett

Well, I tried ftping to atari.archive and got denied access, so then
I tried ftping to wuarchive and got the same message, so I guess it
is a true "mirror" of atari.archive :-(

Mike

healy@nosc.mil
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: RFD: What to do with comp.binaries.atari.st/comp.sources.atari.st?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 21:03:48 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

The only problem with a seperate flame group is, the people posting them
want everyone to read their gripes and complaints, maybe only about 10%
of the current traffic would read the flames group, for the reason that
they don't like reading such material!

Anti-ST whiners should unsub to c.s.a.st and sub to the amoeba games
machine group/s!

(That way, the am*ga users feel more secure 8-)

They're all entitled to their own opinion, but people do go overboard
the things are only computers for smegs sake!

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From: baffoni@phakt.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Conner HD on a TT
Date: 9 Jan 1993 13:32:31 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

	Hi,

	Have you tried letting the countdown go all the way and seeing if it 
boots?  I am not saying that your drive needs the full 90 secs, but I know
that my drive (Quantum LPS105) needs 20seconds (according to noroach) - at
10 seconds it boots some of the time, and absolutely will not boot at 0
seconds.  Your Conner may just be trying to initialize itself when you try to 
boot from it.

-MikeB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: pcxkrm@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (K.R.Marshall)
Subject: SPS files
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:24:28 GMT

OK - thamks for everyone's response to the SPS problem (especially Dave's
graphic formats posting - I should have looked there first!)

To summarise:

SPS files are compressed SPU files - but with a different, more efficient
form of compression to SPC. The program everyone seems to recommend to 
view them is SPSLIDEX, which I've just downloaded from a.a. I'm fairly
sure I had a version of this already, which didn't do SPS, but this might
be a more recent one.

Thanks for all the replies!

Keith.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sytang@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang)
Subject: Pins assignment on Omniswitch needed
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 05:00:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

 Hello:

 Would anyone has document on Omniswitch kind enough to check for me the pin
assignment on the DB-9 Multi-Sync output connector? I have one without any doc.
and I'm planning to use it with a UltrSync (which use DB-25 and has a DB-25 to 
VGA-15pins cable).
 Thank you
 Tang
 sytang@lamar.colostate.edu
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Spectre & TT
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:19:30 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <1993Jan5.203916.22548@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
[stuff deleted]
>
>I'll leave this to others who may have a TT and GCR.  But one problem you
>may first encounter is the inability of the TT's internal drive to read/write
>in Mac 800K format (the GCR does not support 1.44Mb... yet).  The easiest fix
>is to pick up an external DSDD SF314 for your floppy drive B and use it with
>your Mac floppies.  That's what I did when the GCR wouldn't work with my
>MSTE's internal floppy.

   Do you know why your internal drive didn't want to work with the GCR?
Was it only with MAC/GCR disks, Spectre disks, etc?  So far, Spectre 2.65
has been working with my MegaSTe's internal HD disk, though I have only
used Spectre format disks up to now.

   Oh, what's the best route for upgrading the Spectre from 2.65 to 3.0?
I suppose I should send in my registration card, huh? :-)

   I am rather pleased with the speed of the Spectre while in 16mhz mode -
things load in quite fast.  Even my Megafile 30 seems to run fast under
Spectre mode!

				Robert J. Anisko
				anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com

"two wrongs don't make a right, but two wrights make a plane..."
From: clausb@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Claus Brod)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:40:25 GMT
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Syquest 44 boot
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Jens Kilian (jensk@hpbbn.bbn.hp.com) wrote:
> It doesn't. Claus, are you shure that the Syquest drives can be configured
> not to send the UNIT ATTENTION message ?

I'm not _quite_ sure if it can be done in software; maybe you would
have to set a jumper or exchange the controller ROMs. BTW: Old Macs 
have the same problem, so maybe Syquest has a "Mac version" of their 
controller firmware. 

TOS 2.06 fixed this problem by making at least two read attempts
from each device on the ACSI bus, so that's another possibility
to solve the problem.

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From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: Falcon030 competes with '486dx-33
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:07:15 GMT

cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:
: [ad deleted] 
: Wasn't Atari's last memorable slogan, "Power without the price!"?  A
: '486sx-25 will _CRUSH_ a 68030-16, no matter what OS you put on it...
: 
Hmm... according to some PC magazines, a 486sx/25 is slower than a
386dx/33... So it can't be that much faster than a Falcon... 
(at most 2x as fast, depends on what you do of course)

:[...]

-MY
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ADVOCACY: Re: Porky pig.
Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:46:38 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <11648@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:
>
>>Atari's simply aren't competetive anymore.  Face it, if you bought a
>>new machine, would it be an ST?
>
>>If so, then you really are deluded
>>beyond all hope.  Apple's soon not going to even HAVE a 68000 machine
>>in their line -- they're just too darn slow by today's standards.
>
>Wakey-wakey Dave.  Atari's soon not going to even HAVE a 68000 machine
> in their line -- they're just too darn slow by today's standards.

Warwick!  I was beginning to feel let down that you weren't
contributing anymore!  Like it or not, though, the 68000-based machines
are really the only affordable machines Atari has.  The TT is no longer
even vaguely competitive from a price/performace standpoint.  As for
the Falcon, it's already a bit behind the times, but it'll certainly be
a vast improvement over the ST.  If Atari sells the Falcon for $250,
I'll buy one.  How's that?  THAT would be competitive.

Of course, they have to MAKE them first.  Minor detail.  Darn 
pesky factory workers!  Can't even pronounce "Tra-mell" correctly,
much less meet their production quotas.

>If you bought a "new machine" and it was an ST, then you've just popped
>through a time warp.  Check out the prices 1040STe's are being flogged
>off at by long-term Atari dealers - it's a runout sale.  I picked up
>a SM146 for $AU190, which is quite a saving!!  They're all about to
>become obsolete [though the SM146 is a *nice* monitor!].

ST's are being dumped left and right because they're becoming door
stops.  Nobody wants a computer for which no new software is being
written any more than they want an 8-track tape player.  ("All my
tapes sound JUST FINE on my 8-track.  I don't NEED a CD player.")

>Smell some roses for a change.

This is finally getting fun again!   :)

Dave Baggett
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From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: What to do with comp.binaries.atari.st/comp.sources.atari.st?
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:56:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ipnvvINNiuv
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

koreth@spud.Hyperion.COM (Steven Grimm) writes:

>So what do people think?  Should the group continue as is?  Should I step
>down and let someone else take the helm?  Should binaries continue to be
>posted, or should the group switch to a low-bandwidth "announce" format?
>If it did the latter, would it still be an appropriate member of the
>comp.binaries hierarchy?  And what about comp.sources.atari.st?

I have thought for a while that a place to announce new software releases
would be very useful.  Many times I've not been aware of the latest
versions of software.  I had to ask Michael Bernards himself what the
latest English version of Rufus was, and I had to get it from Bob Brodie
via the F-Net!  The same is true with commercial software.  For example, I
always try to get the latest version of Warp9 when it comes out.  It was
over 2 months before I knew that the ExtendoSave version had been
released!  So what might be a good idea is to open the newsgroups to
discussion of the latest software, of all varieties.  When anyone finds a
newly released title, they can post about it, tell where they can FTP it
from, and, if people want them to, they could even uuencode it and post
it, or post its source code.  Something like this wouldn't cut back on the
purpose the groups currently serve, while adding something that could
benefit a lot of users.

Just my thoughts...

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: Stalker vs Uniterm!
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 17:40:56 EST

In <7JAN93.12374686@cc4.crl.aecl.ca>, csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
> The only complaints I have heard about STalker is it runs
> in a window and on an SM124 at 640x400 one line is lost
> for terminal use; with some applications this is critical.

Funny, I use the 9-point Gemini Bold font from the Gemini 1.21
distribution and get an 80x25 terminal window (without the horizontal
scrollbar, which I hate) on my 640x400 screen...  There's even space
around the edges.  Or I could use the 8-point Gemini font, which I use
for my console window (windows under MiNT), and have the window take up
a bit more than 1/4 of the screen...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Re: 800 birds ready to take of from Taiwan....
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:17:59 GMT

ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud) writes:

>From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
>>Subject say's it all.
>>(Information from reliable source, although not directly from anyone
>>inside Atari Corp., cause if it it was, I couldn't tell you:^)
>>
>>-- 
>>  _______________________________________________________
>> / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
>>/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
>>-----------------------------------------------------------

>200?  Why such a weenie number?  200 is a week's work for a rather small
>production line.  (And that includes burn-in testing.)

Ron,  

Check out the subject again, if you read it you would see it was 800 not
200...


John
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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon - Future
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:47:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Sorry, Michael.. I reiterate: Simply because you seem to have trouble
upgrading PCs, doesn't mean that everyone does.
 
And I still prefer the PC method of upgrading to the ST method.  PCs are
designed from the beginning to be upgraded.  STs have to be hacked.

Plain and simple.

BobR
From: m91der@tdb.uu.se (Daniel Eriksson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GNU SED v1.13 ported to Atari
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:37:42 GMT
Organization: Uppsala university, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Markus Wenzel (wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote:
: Are you sure you linked with libs that were also compiled with -mbaserel?
: I compiled tcsh 6.00 and make 3.62 that way and it works just fine.
: 
: Regards, Markus.

Oh, silly me! I thought the distributed MiNTlibs (currently PL25) already
was compiled with -mbaserel. Am I wrong?

And if they aren't, would 4MB RAM be enough to rebuild them?

Happy compiling!

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From: alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR)
Subject: Re: The compatibility story (Falcon & A1200)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:12:20 GMT

In article <H.mcBUgFWEjuY@fredrik.atari.no> jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no writes:
>
>Comodore officialy say that 60% of current A500 software works on the A1200.
>Impressive? I don't think so!
>
>Compo (large german company that develop and sell ST/TT/Falcon software and
>hardware addons) have had a thorough test of a large base of existing ST 
>software to see if it worked on the Falcon 030, and they found that 95% (no 
>kiddin', ninty-five%) do run!
>This is even better than what Atari self hoped for, and it is MUCH better
>than what the TT can show up with. I have a TT and have little problems to 
>get the software I need.
>
>
>-- 
>  _______________________________________________________
> / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
>/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
>-----------------------------------------------------------

Does this include graphic&sound environments using the DMA and/or the sound
chip?? (i.e. does this include GAMES?!!!!) Hey, I'm a gameaholic!! 

AcEzE
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: erikjan@icce.rug.nl (Erik-Jan Vens)
Subject: 1st-word <-> wordperfect converter. In Dutch.
Reply-To: E.J.Vens@icce.rug.nl (Erik-Jan Vens)
Calvin-And-Hobbes: Scientific Progress Goes **BOINK**
Organization: The ICCE Experience
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:57:21 GMT


Dit is voor degene die een converter zocht tussen 1st word en worst pervert,
en wiens email adres ik kwijt ben. Sorry voor de overlast voor de hele groep.

Ik heb mijn converter gekocht n.a.v. een advertentie in de Start. Volgens de
nota op 28 april 1992. Kosten: (converter) f.84, (verzendkosten) f.1,46 en
(btw) f.15.54. Totaal: f.101. Leverancier: MEGA systems, Postbus 8273, 6710 AG
Ede, Tel: (0 83 80) 1 00 10, Fax: (0 83 80) 5 14 39.

EJee
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: ADVOCACY: Sounds like an optimal solution to me.
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:01:33 GMT
Keywords: advocacy

In article <1itemaINN6bq@life.ai.mit.edu> dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:
>I propose that from now on any message in this group that's 
>predominantly about the virtues or flaws of a personal computer (Atari
>or otherwise), or about a personal computer company, should have
>the word "ADVOCACY" in the the title.  That way people who don't want
>to read such posts can kill them, and people who do won't be bothered
>by all the annoying bitching about the bitching.  :)

This will allow a "more intelligent" filtering of the newsgroup for those who
need the "new developments", "help needed", and technical stuff.

I'd like to see this go.  Kind of an ADVOCACY sub group.  THe only folks who
may not benefit are those concerned with long distance connects for newsgroup
proliferation.  Everyone else can "kill" or not kill.... as they see fit.


jc
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: The attack of the humorless atari cheerleaders part 666
Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:06:31 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <93009.110613SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Scott
>"What would be your reaction if we sued you for copyright infringement for
> HacMan II?" - Sam Tramiel

Nice sig!  But actually it was Leonard who said that.

Dave Baggett
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