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From: Monty@vnet.ibm.com (Bryan Montgomery)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:32:44 BST
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: advice on scanners wanted
Reply-To: Monty@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Havant UK
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Aug27.195311.16694@csd.brispoly.ac.uk>

In <1992Aug27.195311.16694@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> AS Radford writes:
>In view of recent developments, both in the UK and the US, I'm
>beginning to think I should get me a scanner before our masters decide
>we're too irresponsible to be allowed to use them.
I think you could be right, yesterday there was a report that Prince
Andrew had been taped, using a phone from his ship off the South Coast
of the UK. Scanners were also mentioned in the Bill (an English TV cop
drama), not for the first time, and about two years ago someone was
successfully prosecuted for using a scanner to monitor the Police.

I am led to believe that one of the local Police channels has been
scrambled on a test basis, whilst surrounding channels are still in
the clear.

>Can any users advise me as to the best buy for UK and European use?
>(Does price equate with performance?  Are there any relatively cheap,
>but worth-considering models?)
>

It depends on what you want to use it for! Personally, I don't think much
of the Radio-Shack/Tandy Scanners and prefer the Japanese. The AOR sets
are supposed to be pretty good. It partly depends whether you want SW,
cellular, TV, fire (70MHz ish in the UK - not found on Tandy models)
air, UHF air etc. I'd suggest trying to find a local retail outlet to
go and look then maybe considering mail order.

Hope this helps, feel free to mail me though.


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From: Kirk.Smith@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning on aircraft
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:40:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Is this in the FAQ?  If not, I'd really like to see it added.  Then we
wouldn't have to sit through this thread every other month.  :-(

-Kirk J. Smith

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: siegman@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman)
Subject: Scanners Illegal in Certain European Countries?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 00:19:24 GMT

Recent msgs on rec.aviation refer to handheld scanners as being
illegal to possess or transport in certain European countries.  True?
(I'm particularly interested in Italy, Greece, and Turkey -- was
thinking of taking a Radio Shack PRO 34 portable along on a vacation
trip.)

siegman@sierra.stanford.edu
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-43
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:33:52 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

> cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:

Yessir.  I had an 'expert' do it for me.  No way I would try that by myself.  I
had the celluar mod done first, and then the extended VHF-Lo done again (2
desolder and resolder jobs)  I would advise that anybody who wants both jobs
done that they have both done at the same time.  The celluar is relatively easy
(clip the diode) compared to the VHF-Lo mod (moving and resoldering the diode).
The unit is not made to be continuously desoldered and resoldered.

-- 

			- Brad Steinman
                          cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo

b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito) writes:
 
 	I believe I saw an article just recently that mentioned
 	using the diode from the cellular restoration mod.
 	It mentioned unsoldering that diode and installing it
 	for the extended VHF-Lo.


That would be correct.  The diode at D4 is to be moved to D3 for celluar AND
extended VHF-Lo coverage.

Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
From: mayer@access.digex.com (David L. Mayer)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Radio Shack PRO-43 mods?
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:06:06 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA

I just ordered the new Radio Shack portable PRO-43. Does
anyone know of any cellular restoration mods for this
radio?  Or any other mods?  Thanks,

--David
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mth@neptune.dsc (Michael T. Heins)
Subject: PRO-2006 mods for cellular?
Organization: Digital Sound Corporation
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:53:31 GMT

Does anyone know if it's possible to modify a Realistic PRO-2006 (400
channel Hyperscan) to pick up cellular frequencies?
--

Michael T. Heins  (mth@dsc.com)
	"If we do not succeed, then we run the risk of failure."  -- Dan Quayle
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From: b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-43
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:51:22 GMT
Organization: Bell Atlantic


	An associate just purchased a PRO-43 a few days ago and the
	local Radio Shack store said they don't know when the
	AC adapter/charger (cat. no. 20-188) made for that unit
	will be available.

	Does anyone know when or has anyone seen any in their local
	stores?

	Thanks in advance.....


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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-43
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:55:03 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <Btnr5n.275@kato.BELL-ATL.COM> b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito) writes:
>
>	An associate just purchased a PRO-43 a few days ago and the
>	local Radio Shack store said they don't know when the
>	AC adapter/charger (cat. no. 20-188) made for that unit
>	will be available.
>
>	Does anyone know when or has anyone seen any in their local
>	stores?
>

Yeah, I bought one here in San Luis Obispo, CA. One problem is that
new inventory control program. It took the salesdriod three stabs to
find it in the 'puter, AND THEN he went to look for it on the shelf.


Xref: sparky alt.radio.scanner:1675 rec.railroad:6933
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.railroad
Subject: advice on scanners wanted
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:13:09 GMT

Howdy.  I'm finally contemplating buying a scanner, mostly for
train-watching.  Any suggested models to look for or avoid?  Features I
should look for?  I'm sure I'll find other uses as well, but
portability is a major concern.

Be specific; I know nothing of scanners...

		--Steve Bellovin
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: R7000
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:57:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep04.025720.4311@n8emr.cmhnet.org> gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders) writes:
>
>I just picked up a R7000 receiver and now looking for a control
>program for it. Let the computer do some looking for me while 
>I am not here.. Any good PD or commerical software available?
>sources?

A very usable program is provided by Sam Dunham called Scan Star. He
operates a BBS which has a demo version available for Free Download.
The telephone number is 408 258 6462. He doesn't charge an arm and a leg
for his software unlike other vendors. His price for a real copy is
$49.95. In addition to the R7000, it includes drivers for many other
receivers including the AOR3000, the NRD 535 and 525, the RS Pro2006 etc.
Give it a try.

-- 
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(415) 903-3832 wk  "Time for a clean sweep of Congress"   (408) 253 4541 fax

A government that is afraid of an armed populace is a government
the populace should be afraid of.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: PRO-43
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:16:13 GMT
Summary: Just bought AC adapter/charger for PRO-43, etc.

In article <Btnr5n.275@kato.BELL-ATL.COM>,
b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito) writes:
 
> An associate just purchased a PRO-43 a few days ago and the
> local Radio Shack store said they don't know when the
> AC adapter/charger (cat. no. 20-188) made for that unit will be available.

I just bought the AC adapter/charger for the PRO-43
last week from a Radio Shack store in northern Illinois,
but I had to call around to locate one.

Spare battery holders are back ordered until September 30.

BTW, the modification to restore 30-88 MHz and cellular coverage
outlined in September 1992 Monitoring Times works but is not for the
faint of heart.

-- 
==============================================================================
Bob Parnass, AJ9S  -  AT&T Bell Labs  -  parnass@ihlpm.att.com - (708)979-5414
From: hbg6@phx.mcd.mot.com (John Schuch)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Discone or dipole antenna for scanner?
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:56:09 GMT
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.

In article <17ak3aINN87@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> gduna@snafu.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (George Duna) writes:
>
>In any case I will remove my discone as soon as I can decide on the
>replacement. I have seen several mentions of the Channel Master 5094A
>but have not seen that antenna in any of the usual sources, can
>someone give reference to the price and source availability.
>

Find any local shop that carries Channel Master TV antennas and have
them order it from the CM sales rep for you. I think mine cost about
$29 and I am quite pleased with it. Now I'm looking into the scanner
beam antenna from Grove.

John
From: drawson@sagehen.Tymnet.COM (Dick Rawson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What kind of interference was this?
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:17:40 GMT
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)

> .....
>  Anyhow, last month I attended the Indy car race at Michigan Speedway.  My
>seat was 3/4 of the way up the grandstand, about 50 feet below the press box.
>I had no problems listening to the car-to-pit frequencies in the 800 MHz band,
>I had problems in the 440-460 MHz area.  I arrived several hours before the
>race, and found that MOST of the frequencies in that range suffered from one
>or both of the following problems:
>
>    A screaching "data burst" sound that pulsed at about a 1Hz rate.
>    A bleading in of ABC's TV audio from the 450 remote broadcast band.
>    A bleeding in of the Radio coverage in the same band.
>
>  What caused these signals to dominate the band like they did?  

I bet your scanner's front end was overloaded by high intensity signals
from the press box or somewhere else near-by.  When overloaded, you may
hear the strong signal even though the scanner isn't tuned to it, or it
may cause you to hear OTHER - even much weaker - signals.  This is a
tough problem for all radios, and scanners have the problem in spades
because they must receive a wide band of signals (or you won't buy
them).

Try sitting as far away as possible from transmitters.  Of course, it 
sounds like you had an excellent site for watching, if not scanning,
so you may not like having to move.

Or try reducing the sensitivity of the scanner ... like, remove the
antenna!  You may well hear all the local action just fine; most of it
may be quite strong enough to receive through the plastic case.  Or
replace the antenna with a very short wire.  Is the antenna connector a
BNC connector?  You can buy a "banana plug" binding post mounted to a
BNC connector:  it's a "short" antenna by itself, and you can add wire
to it.  Or hug the antenna plus radio between your arm and body (how
will you hear it?).

Dick
From: jeffg@loki.esd.sgi.com (Jeff C. Glover)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning on aircraft
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:36:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <12090@optilink.UUCP> calley@optilink.UUCP (Chris Calley) writes:
>I recently took a flight from San Francisco to Minneapolis, accompanied by my
>trusty Pro-34.
>...
>	3. What does the law/regulation actually say about using radios on
>		aircraft?	

Federal Regulations [ emphasis mine ]:

    Federal Aviation Administration, Part 91 (1-1-90 edition)

    91.21 Portable Electronic Devices

    (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, NO PERSON MAY
    OPERATE, nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft allow
    the operation of, ANY PORTABLE ELECTRONIC DEVICE on any of the
    following U.S.-registered civil aircraft:
	(1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating
	certificate or an operating certificate; or
	(2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR

    (b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to --
	(1) Portable voice recorders;
	(2) Hearing aids;
	(3) Heart pacemakers;
	(4) Electric shavers;
	(5) Any other portable electronic device that the OPERATOR of the
	aircraft has DETERMINED WILL NOT CAUSE INTERFERENCE with the
	navigation or communications system of the aircraft on which it is
	to be used.

    (c) In the case of an aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier
    operating certificate or an operating certificate, the determination
    required by paragraph (b)(5) of this section shall be made by that
    operator of the aircraft on which the particular device is to be used.
    In the case of other aircraft, the determination may be made by the
    PILOT in command or other operator of the aircraft.

==================================================

What's all that legal gobbledegook mean?  Basically, you can't use a
radio on a commercial flight.

Yes, even if the pilot says it's OK, it's not OK.  Read that last
paragraph carefully -- "OPERATOR" != "PILOT" for most commercial
flights.  And it doesn't say diddly about the OPERATOR assigning that
responsibility to the PILOT.  That is, United Airlines can't allow it's
pilots to determine on the spot whether a device is legit or not; they
(United Airlines) have to determine FOR A PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT
and FOR A PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT ON WHICH IT WILL BE ALLOWED.

Realistically, if the pilot says it's OK, you're not likely to be
prosecuted.  However, if an FAA inspector were aboard, noticed and
decided to act, the PILOT and OPERATOR could be subject to fines and/or
prosecution.

Replace "Radio" in all the above with "Any Electronic Device", and you
also exclude computers, NES gameboy, CD Players, etc.  Most airlines
have issued "determination" results for laptops and cd players.

Jeff
jeffg@sgi.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: bsaxon@student.business.uwo.ca (Barry Saxon)
Subject: Pro-37 Cellular Mod
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:07:33 GMT

A friend of mine just bought a PRO-37 and would like to modify it to
receive the cellular bands.  I'm sure this has been dealt with here
before, but I've haven't been reading this group.
Thanks for any help.
                              Barry

bsaxon@student.business.uwo.ca (Barry Saxon)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: dingman+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Dingman)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner shootout: PRO-43 vs. 200XLT
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:45:52 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Sep2.001226.11831@cbnewse.cb.att.com> parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.171041.9802@uoft02.utoledo.edu>,
>cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>
>>   You indicated that the PRO-43's scan speed was 50ch/sec - 
>> 
>>   I believe that you are talking about the SEARCH speed not the SCAN speed.  I
>> think that the scan speed is appx. 25ch/sec.  (Though I could be wrong...)
>
>I measured the scan speed (number of locked in channels scanned per
>second) of the PRO-43 I reviewed.  It scanned 50 channels per
>second -- twice the Radio Shack specification of 25 channels per second.
>
>NOTE:  Measuring actual scan speed has been a good idea ever
>since the time AOR boasted of blinding scan rates in the AR-2515
>and AR-900.  Users found those scanners failed to stop reliably
>when a signal was present!
>-- 
>==============================================================================
>Bob Parnass, AJ9S  -  AT&T Bell Labs  -  parnass@ihlpm.att.com - (708)979-5414

On mine, the scan speed is as follows:

	EMPTY (i.e. 000.0000 MHz) channels:	50 cps
	PROGRAMMED channels:			25 cps

Looks like the Pro-43 has circuitry to distinguish between the two and skips
any channels that aren't programmed.  I thought it was 50 cps too after 
watching 200 channels go by in 4 sec, but <sigh> I guess I'll have to 
suffer with 25 cps.


						- Chris

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: Scanning on aircraft
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 03:27:55 GMT

calley@optilink.UUCP (Chris Calley) writes:

>	1. Do scanners transmit?  If not, how could they possibly effect
>		anything on an aircraft?
>	2. If they can effect aircraft instrumentation on the ground, why not
>		also in the air?
>	3. What does the law/regulation actually say about using radios on
>		aircraft?	
>	
>	
>Any info appreciated.
 
DO NOT WANT TO GO INTO THIS AGAIN...just say the answer is NO.
<we are talking in the realm of Commercial Aircraft..>
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From: scrooge@Moneybin.equinox.gen.nz (Glenn Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Sydney Airport Frequencies...
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:13:52   M
Organization: Not organised at all.

Does anyone have a list of the frequencies used by Sydney (Australia) 
airport? I am going to Sydney in November and would like to listen in in the 
hope (?) of getting something like Die Hard 2 to listen to...

Thanks a lot,

Glenn.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: schro@nessos.sni.de (W.F.Schroeder)
Subject: AR-1500 battery size update
Keywords: AOR AR-1500
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:26:03 GMT

There have been reports about the battery size of the AR-1500, AORs
latest handheld scanner.  Several people (including me) said that it
doesn't use AA size cells, but only AAA size cells with much lower
capacity.  This is not the whole truth.  I saw one yesterday and had a
chat with the dealer about the battery size.  He took an AR-1500 of the
shelf and removed the cover of the battery compartment. 

The unit comes with a NiCad pack made of 5 AA(!) size cells, soldered
together and shrink-wrapped in white plastic.  Capacity is 600mAh at 6
volts.  The cell pack has a short cable with a tiny plug to connect it
to the receiver. 

With the rig you also get an empty battery case for AAA(!) size cells,
and this has probably caused the confusion.  There is not enough space
for AA cells AND a holder, but if you can find that tiny plug somewhere
you can built replacement packs.  However if you already have a bunch of
standard plug-in AA size NiCads you can not use them with the AR-1500.

73 Django  DL5YEC
From: frenchs@forsan.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning on aircraft
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:21:13 GMT
Reply-To: frenchs@forsan.enet.dec.com ()
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


All recievers transmit. This is how (in UK) TV detector vans work. They 
detect the local oscillator emissions. It could be that before take off
the aircraft is more sensitive to these (very low power) transmissions.


Simon - G6ZTZ
From: rens@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Frank Rens (Associate Director))
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Land between the Lakes frequencies
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:43:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone know the frequencies for the Land Between the Lakes in
western Kentucky/Tenessee which is managed by the TVA?  I found the
primary maintenance/campground channel but was unable to locate the police.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mad@Turing.ORG (Mark A. Day (N4OQK))
Subject: Re: Scrambling ?? / Yupiteru MVT-7000
Keywords: Scrambling, Inversion
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:23:47 GMT

Ah, a most excellent hack! I havent seen the inversion technique used in
years. As a teenager, I remember my friends father reaching behind his
Bearcat 8 channel (Crystal) scanner to "flip the switch"!

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good handheld scanner
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:10:23 GMT

schro@nessos.sni.de (W.F.Schroeder) writes:

>Seems the only handheld scanner with SSB reception is the latest model
>from AOR, the AR-1500: 0.5-1300MHz, 10 banks of 100 memories each, price
>in Germany DM769.

What is the AR-1500 like when compared to RS PRO-43?

Any reviews available of AR-1500?

-- 
larry@mits.mdata.fi    "You don't have to tell me nothing!"
Newsgroups: alt.radio.pirate
From: gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis)
Subject: Pirate Joe
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:02:23 GMT

  Wek

  Well, I've got to retract my comments of a few weeks back concerning
RNI and Pirate Joe. His analysis of Bush's convention speech was damn
right on the money. Pirate Joe and others are heard Sunday nights,
7.435 WWCR 0200-0330 UTC.

The week previous,Lightning John did a great critque of religion also.
These guys are begging for money. I understand a one minute spot costs
ten bucks. The only long time sponsor I heard last week was FAIR RADIO
SALES. This organization stocks surplus radio gear,some of it useable
for pirates. WWCR is a 100kw erp licensed shortwave operation out of
Nashville,Tenn..

YO!

--
                     Gary E. Davis WQ1F (On AO13)
        University of Vermont  Land Liner's dial 802-656-1916
 References " The Joys of Rumination Without The Cud", Elsie circa 1965
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