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From: kks2n@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Kirby K. Stiening)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Mitsumi/Encyc - Help!
Date: 3 Jan 93 14:59:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: kks2n@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU


     I have installed a Mitsumi 680msec player over the holidays and am 
having a problem with the Software Toolworks (aka Grolliers) Multimedia
Encylopedia for DOS, 1992 edition.  All text retrievals are fine as are
pictures and sounds (through my SoundBlaster) and maps.  I am having
problems with the video clips.  The Picture box is displayed and the
caption is shown at the bottom of the page, but rather than displaying
the animated film clip, I get a screen of garbage and the computer 
freezes, requireiring a cold reboot.
     The installation instructions imply the existence of a separate 
video motion driver, different from the sound driver and any other
drivers, but I do not find this file on the Cd-ROM.
     I may have to call Software Toolworks or Grolliers to resolve the
problem, but I thought that I'd ask here first.  Thanks for any asistance.

Kirby         c
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From: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Which CD-ROM under Unix (SVR4)?
Keywords: cd-rom sony unix svr4
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:47:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cd-rom
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

knowing that unix driver support for cdrom is very
hardware dependent(both the cdrom and the scsi host adapter), 
i would suggest you ask your intended unix
vendor for a supported cdrom list and buy from that.

jack...
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             Software Horizons SVR3 408-684-1375   uunet!sco.com!blznrzn!jack
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From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: HELP !
Date: 4 Jan 1993 01:48:11 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <921231.025002.SAT.STUY138@SAUPM00.BITNET> "Kais A. Al-Essa" <STUY138@SAUPM00.bitnet> writes:
>has been found and successfully initialized and its drive (F) is there. But

I have what sounds like the same problem, however if I ignore itand start
up windows, the CD-ROM is fine.  It also continues to work after I shut
windows down and return to DOS.

I haven't been able to figure it out, maybe someone else knows.

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Fractalman)
Subject: Sherlock Holmes II any good?
Originator: yxl5388@ultb
Organization: Imperial Klingon Fleet
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:24:13 GMT


Hi all, does anyone have both Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective
(whew) Vol I and Vol II? If so ca you tell me if Vol II has better
graphics than I? i.e. Are the animations similar to one which just about
the only thing moving on the screen is the characters' mouths? :) Or are
there better 'full screen animations' like in Animals? Thanks.

=Fractalman
yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu
From: jerryw@cs.umd.edu (Jerry Wieber)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: First GNU CD-ROM
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:39:44 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Dec31.070340.5959@catfish.az05.bull.com> pls@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Paul Schauble) writes:
>How do these prices fit with the charter of the _Free_ Software Foundation?
>I just can't see how these prices bear any remote relationship to distribution
>costs.

They don't.  As I understand it, the FSF uses a high distribution charge
as a way to support the FSF.  The (mildly underhanded) thought is that
a donation is hidden in the materials charge, thus slipping unnoticed
through the paws of the corporate bean counters.

Of course, if you really cared about the $$'s you would just buy the GNU
CD-ROM from Walnut Creek (1-800-786-9907) for $40.

-Jerry
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: bam@Bang.UUCP (Bret A. Marquis)
Subject: Re: List of drives too slow for Sherlock Holmes II
Reply-To: bam%bang@trout.nosc.mil
Organization: Marquis Property Development Co., San Diego
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:21:54 GMT

david cole (dcole@ua.d.umn.edu) wrote:
: 
: Hi netters.  I thought you might be interested in the list from the readme
: file on the new Sherlock Holmes II game.  It says these drives are marginal
: or will not work with the game (it has video in a window that fills about
: one-fourth of the screen area):
: 
: I feared the worst for the NEC 25bj that I got in the Medivision FusionCD
: kit, since it should be worse performing than the NEC 37, but I was
: pleasantly surprised: it works fine.  It is interesting that new drives like
: the 461 and the NEC 37 are on the list, while the cheapest drive, the
: Mitsumi, is not.  Anybody else have handson experience with this game and
: cd-rom drives, either on the above list or not?
: 
The game works really well with the NEC CDR-84.


Bret Marquis
From: clovis@EAR.ANPE.BR (Clovis Lacerda Leite Filho)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: which drive?
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:50:44 GMT
Reply-To: Clovis Lacerda Leite Filho <clovis@ear.anpe.br>
Distribution: alt
Organization: itep

Hi All,

I want to purchase a CDROM drive, but the huge list of models is driving me
crazy. I have a SCSI HD, can the CDROM SCSI models be conected to the HD
controler? Are Non-SCSI drives good choices?

When I went to Miami last July I found a dual drive from NEC for $ 500,
which seemed to be the best buy  for me (2 drives in one case).
Unfortunantely I forgot the model, making it difficult to make an order.

Could you help me in finding out which drive is the best buy at the moment?
Is this dual NEC worthwhile? Is the Creative Labs kit the best choice?

Thanks and merry christmas
Clovis

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: max@megatek.com (Max Elliot)
Subject: Re: ISO 9660 - but not PC readable?
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:32:25 GMT

From article <BznKD9.Cv9@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, by shad04@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dan Fandrich):
> In article <BzKH18.Hur@ipsa.reuter.com> jhs@ipsa.reuter.com (Henri Schueler) writes:
>>I have some ISO 9660 CDs that are meant for use with non-PCs (e.g. Sun and
>>Mac). I cannot *read* these on my PC. Can someone explain why? 
>>Am I correct in assuming this is an MSCDEX limitation of some kind -- 
>>or does it relate to my CDrom drive, an Hitach 3600.
>>

  Actually, the disks are probably *not* ISO9660 'level-one' compliant.
  This spec requires that the directory entries have names which are
  compatible with DOS filesystems. Any other 'extended' file naming
  conventions are exactly that. 'Extended' ISO9660.  At least that is
  my understanding. ISO9660 format does not *prevent* the use of long
  filenames, it just specifies that they should be DOS compatible.
  (it is typically the UNIX filesystems that have trouble with 9660
   because of the semi-colon before the version number etc.) 
  Then again, there may be other reasons MSCDEX won't read the FS on
  your disks...

  Cheers!
-Max
From: 1012breuckma@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Parallel port CD ?
Date: 2 Jan 1993 17:29:16 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 1012breuckma@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsf.csd.mu.edu

In article <93001.211144IRVK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IRVK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Irv Konfield) writes:
>I've seen external floppy and hard drives that connect via a
>serial port and require no additional wiring.  Is there a CD reader
>that can be connected in a similar manner (and thus moved among
>machines)

NEC sells an SCSI adapter that connects to the parallel port.  I believe
it's made by trantor.
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Wanted: Sony CDRom driver
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

Y >I want to daisy-chain a CDU-100 with a CDU-5002.  My CDU-100 driver
Y >says that it's good for the CDU-100/200.  So I guess I'll need a new
Y >driver...
Y >
Y >Does anyone know an FTP site that I could get it, or even a Sony BBS
Y >phone number.
Y >
Y >I called up Sony Canada, and they don't have a BBS in Canada, but
Y >they're not sure if there's one in the states.  (Great guys, eh?)
Y >
Y >Any help will be greatly appreciated...

SONY BBS (408) 955-5107.
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Newsgroups: gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu,alt.cd-rom
From: pls@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Paul Schauble)
Subject: Re: First GNU CD-ROM
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems, Inc., Phoenix Product Division
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 07:03:40 GMT

Considering what the mastering and production costs of a cd-rom are, $400
seems awfully high to justify as a distribution fee. The different fees for
an individual and a business seem to me even harder to justify as a 
distribution fee. Surely it doen't cost 4 times as much to mail a disc to
a business as it does to mail one to an individual.

How do these prices fit with the charter of the _Free_ Software Foundation?
I just can't see how these prices bear any remote relationship to distribution
costs.

    ++PLS
From: NP180003@BROWNVM.BITNET (Norm Desmarais)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: STILL LOOKING FOR ATLAS!
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:00:26 GMT
Reply-To: Norm Desmarais <NP180003@BROWNVM.bitnet>
Distribution: alt
Organization: FUNET-NGW

DeLorme Mapping in Freeport Me has several atlas CD products, including a world
 atlas -- all in vector graphics.  Software Toolworks and several other compani
es have atlasses in raster graphics form.  Usually, they are images of the Hamm
ond atlases.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jturley@netcom.com (James Turley)
Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM, ADAPTEC HELP NEEDED
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 06:04:37 GMT


Adeptec now ships the Corel Drivers with that card...not sure that
the Corel drivers will help you though.  I have a CDR-74 and have had
some confilicts with my MediaVision sound card.

What a drag, eh?  Good luck w/ Adaptec...se prev article.

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: Y6HJ <Y6HJ@UNB.CA>
Subject: Wanted: Sony CDRom driver
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:13:08 GMT


Hi,

I want to daisy-chain a CDU-100 with a CDU-5002.  My CDU-100 driver
says that it's good for the CDU-100/200.  So I guess I'll need a new
driver...

Does anyone know an FTP site that I could get it, or even a Sony BBS
phone number.

I called up Sony Canada, and they don't have a BBS in Canada, but
they're not sure if there's one in the states.  (Great guys, eh?)

Any help will be greatly appreciated...

Paul


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From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Which CD-ROM under Unix (
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

WP>I would like to buy a SCSI external CD-ROM unit for my system but I
WP>don't know which one will work.
WP>
WP>I phoned to Sony Italia asking for such a beast but somone explained
WP>me that there is only one unit they sell. It is the CDU-6211.  When I
WP>asked him whether that unit is compatible with Unix (I'm planning to
WP>buy a SVR4), he answered: "We sell the CD-ROM in our kit, which
WP>contains a SCSI adapter for Pc-AT, cables, and Dos device drivers. We
WP>have never tried to install it on a different OS." (sigh)
WP>
WP>Any better experience?
WP>
WP>If I have to forget Sony, which one do you recommend for these
WP>purposes?

I would recommend either the Toshiba 3301 or the Hitachi 1750. Both are
excellent SCSI-II devices, easy to add to a UNIX system. Another choice
is the NEC multi-spin, but it is not as reliable. The extra transfer rate
doesn't help all that much with most applications, which are usually 
access time limited. The SONY would be a distant 4th choice.

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: hscohen@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Harvey S. Cohen)
Subject: Re: Dust & NEC 73J
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:03:51 GMT

In article <92360.001758DI3QC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <DI3QC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>     My question for anyone out ther is: I have a Nec 73j and I used to read a
>disc no problem a what I thought was a reasonable rate. Nowadays I try to read
>the same disc and when a program requests directory info and to load a prog or
>file it seems (it actually is) much longer. I used an air gun an blew out a bit
>of dust but the problem persists. Any ideas.
My NEC 83M, purchased in April 1992, started doing this around November.
It finally got to the point where the driver started saying "Warning: No
devices respond to SCSI host adaptor." I sent it to NEC (1-708-860-0335)
for warrenty service. I'll post a report when it comes back.
>     Also why is it that I need a disc in the cd rom drive when booting the
>machine. Also itr must be a disc that dos can read. It cant be a music format.
Mine did not do this.
>Any ideas I would be grateful for. Thanks.
>                                                Alex Jeannopoulos


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From: cramer@Eng.Sun.COM (Sam Cramer)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Which CD-ROM under Unix (SVR4)?
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:16:20
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: clem
In-reply-to: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM's message of 23 Dec 92 14:59:21 GMT

> First, be sure the V.4 you intend to buy supports CD.

Solaris 2.X, which is SVr4-based, supports High Sierra/ISO-9660 and Rock
Ridge.

Sam
From: 00gwmichelin@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Multisession Info
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:33:31 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Dec30.194712.1141@burns.jpl.nasa.gov>, hand@spc9.jpl.nasa.gov (Kolin Hand) writes:
> 
> Greetings *,
> 
> Could someone fill me in about "Multisession Capability" and what this
> implies?  If this has been beaten to death already, could someone point
> to a good source of info/archive for me to reference?
> 
> Also, I've seen "Kodak Photo/XA" listed in the specs of most CD-ROM drives
> and also wonder about that.
> 
> Appreciate it.
> 
> Kolin
> 
A multisession disc is one that can be written on in many sessions (well, what
do you want).  As you may know, on a conventional optical disc, once the disc
has been written on and its "directory" has been established, that disc cannot
be written on any more.  Multisession disc allow for multi-rewrites.  That is
not to say that it is a rewritable disc; it is not.  For example, with the
Photo CDs, the disc can hold 100 images.  So if you are shooting 24 images at a
time, you can take your disc back to your Photo CD rep at least three different
times until the disc is filled.

To the best of my understanding, /XA and multisession are the same thing.

Gilbert Michelini, Manager
Faculty Development Multimedia Lab
Ball State University
Muncie, Indiana
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN)
Subject: Help! Deciding on a CDROM
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:17:00 GMT


Hello all. Well, ive finally decided to take the plunge into the world of
CDROM. I have my list narrowed down (well, err, sorta). Anyways. Here's 
the scoop. I have a ProAudio 16, and plan on eventually using os/2. Now.
The Texel 3024 seems like a great drive, and I had my mind set on it. But,
I am reading that Mitsumi has a new drive out, is 340-360 ms, and it is only
$200-225. Any suggestions? I fear that the Mitsumi will not use the PAS-16
though, in which case i wouldnt consider it. If I do go with the Texel, 
has anyone had any experience with them and the PAS-16. Just looking for
setup tips, what type of cabling ill need, etc.. Also, does anyone have
any suggestions to were one can get the 3024 for under $400? Thanks!
.

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jturley@netcom.com (James Turley)
Subject: Re: NEC CDR-74 DRIVE ...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:58:51 GMT

I just got CDR-74 to work with the 1542B....

with Corel drivers...no prob. 

But takes forever on bootup to initialize (drive D:)


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From: ti@bazooka.amb.org (Ti Kan)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Which CD-ROM under Unix (SVR4)?
Keywords: cd-rom sony unix svr4
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:53:16 GMT
Reply-To: ti@bazooka.UUCP (Ti Kan)
Followup-To: alt.cd-rom
Organization: AMB Research Labs, Sunnyvale, CA.

In article <1992Dec23.145921.11609@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.171202.784@lpds.sublink.org>, wally@lpds.sublink.org (Walter Pelissero) writes:
>> [....]
>
>  First, be sure the V.4 you intend to buy supports CD. The one major
>feature missing in Dell is that they don't support CD, or rather they
>support the CD just fine, as long as you use it as a raw device and
>don't mind writing your own filesystem.
>
>  I have solved this by having an SCO ODT machine on my net which can
>export the CD, but that may not be a practical solution for most people.

USL's SVR4.2 Destiny (available from Consensys, or in a slightly different
flavor as Univel UnixWare) contains full support of SCSI CD-ROM drives.
The sc01 target device driver in SVR4.2 supports the raw interface to the
CD media, while the "cdfs" virtual filesystem supports the ISO9660
format.  The sc01 driver also provides ioctl(S) interfaces which allows
applications to invoke CD audio playback functionality, but the audio
capability appears to be specific to Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM drives.

-Ti
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: kks2n@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Kirby K. Stiening)
Subject: Mitsumi OK for text??
Originator: kks2n@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:49:24 GMT

     I know that the Mitsumi CD-ROM reader is 680msec access and only a
2K buffer, but I wonder if it will work for text retrieval.  I am
specifically interested in something like the the Software Toolworks
encyclopedia that includes some graphics and sounds, but is NOT
a multimedia product.  Also, does the Mitsumi have a headphone jack
for playing audio CDs.

All help appreciated

Kiry
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: OTTOP@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject: Review of ProPhone
Reply-To: OTTOP@NYUACF.bitnet
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:09:25 GMT

     The Telephone Reference Division at Brooklyn Public Library received
ProPhone two months ago and has been comparing it to PhoneDisc, which they have
been using for over a year.  Tel Ref is always on the lookout for ever more
comprehensive listings of residential, business and organizational addresses
and phone numbers.
     ProPhone comes in 3 discs, 2 for residential listings and 1 for
businesses/organizations, just like PhoneDisc.  However, it requires separate
software to search residential and business listings; each program must be
loaded into its own subdirectory and requires a different command to summon it.
From the standpoint of installation and access therefore, ProPhone is already
less user-friendly.
     There are other problems with ProPhone as well.  The number of listings
seems to be considerably less than that of PhoneDisc.  For example, I found 88
listings for my name in PhoneDisc but only 44 in ProPhone.  The quality of the
data appears about the same in both products, based on searches I performed on
family and friends from across the country.  However, the worst fault lies with
ProPhone's business listings, which often include a street address, state and
zip code, but *no city*, as strange as this may seem.  The fact that ProPhone's
business listings seem to be slightly more comprehensive than PhoneDisc's does
not outweigh the sheer frustration of so much missing data.  (As a matter of
fact, for businesses and organizations, Tel Ref prefers UMI's ProDirect:
Business, the most comprehensive and affordable CD-ROM directory they have been
able to find.)
     ProPhone only cost us a couple hundred dollars.  I don't know whether this
was a special introductory price and whether the renewal will be much higher,
but even at the original price I doubt that Tel Ref will be much interested in
renewing their subscription.  For those libraries which cannot afford to
subscribe to PhoneDisc, I have heard that previous editions, only 6 months old,
may be available from mail-order distributors such as DAK.
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin)
Subject: lyrics from Smith and Jones
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:40:27 GMT

On the episode shown here last night, S and J did a parody of Madonna's
song, "Vogue."  Does anyone have the lyrics to this parody?  I'd appreciate
receiving a copy by email if possible.

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: dave@dhcs.demon.co.uk (Dave Hodgkinson)