HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:10:21 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science


In article <BvpuAw.5Gq@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:

>... But what I am interested in is whether the doctor is a clod,
>a routine mechanic, or a real thinker. 

You should be able to tell this by what specialty he/she is in.
Don't you remember the story about the doctors hunting ducks?

(Don't flame me if you're a humor-impaired surgeon. Or a psychiatrist.)

 -km
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From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: allergy shots and asthma
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:52:11 GMT


I read a posting in another directory that said that allergy shots can
lead to asthma.  Does anyone have any information on this?

Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.physics
From: titus@calvin.phys.ucalgary.ca (Titus Mathews)
Subject: ultrasonography equipment
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:14:44 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research

Howdy!  I am assuming that this is the correct newsgroup for my request;
I ask your forgiveness if not! For my electrical engineering masters degree 
project, I am interested in looking at medical ultrasonography.  Since this 
is way out of my usual interests, I don't know what equipment is currently 
available.  Does anyone reading this newsgroup know of manufactures or 
vendors ultrasound equipment?  I would need the names and contact 
information (i.e. addresses, but especially phone numbers).  Please email 
responses to me at titus@phys.ucalgary.ca or post to this group, whichever 
is more convenient.  Thanks in advance for your help!


T.  =8)
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From: fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt)
Subject: Best medical centers for rheumatology & liver disease
Organization: Motorola RISC Software, Austin, TX
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:57:41 GMT

A friend asked me to find out the names of top rated US centers 
specializing in (a) rheumatology (b) liver diseases. Not knowing much 
about medical centers, I thought I'd solicit the wisdom of the almighty
net :-) Please email me as I am sure the net.world probably doesn't 
care much (if there is interest, I will summarize and post a 
followup).

Thanks!
fmb
-- 
Standard High-Tech Disclaimer: NOTHING  in the above article has the slightest 
relationship to reality. If any reality correspondences are found, please 
notify me IMMEDIATELY. Any threats, abuse or stupidity of any kind is purely 
UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.
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From: hrubin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Subject: Medical causes are not completely known, and there are preventatives
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:27:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.093325.900@mala.bc.ca> apland@mala.bc.ca writes:
>Yes, well, there were women who took thalidomide while they were pregnant
>and their babies lived too - many of them were even "normal"!  What does
>that mean?!

I have seen a claim that thalidomide did not have those effects if the women
had adequate amounts of B vitamins.  We are unlikely to ever know.  

The article starting this was about maternal drinking.  Considering that 
many pregnant women will continue to drink, we may eventually find out if
better nutrition has an effect.  In any case, it should not be dismissed
as ridiculous.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
Xref: sparky sci.med:18805 rec.pets.dogs:12020 rec.pets:3244
From: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Newsgroups: sci.med,rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets
Subject: Re: Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:30:15 GMT
Reply-To: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I almost didn't read this article because I have always heard OCD related to
Osteo Chondritis Desecans (please excuse my spelling!).

However, since I saw your note was from the vet school, maybe this will be a 
helpful pointer.  I have over the years done a lot of reserach on epilepsy 
since it is a problem that my breed is prone to and have collected several
file folders of articles from Cornell and Tufts libraries.  

Somewhere along the line, whether it was an article or a lecture, I recall
hearing of several instances where tail chasing to the point where the dog
focuses out of everything else had been tested to be evidence of seizure
activity.  This was tested with the dog hooked up to an EKG.  This is only
a suggestion and I would contact the person in charge of the Neurology 
department at the vet school and discuss it with him.

Again, the only reason I sugggest this is because you had said he wasn't 
responding to meds, so please anyone who reads this and has a dong who chases
his tail -- don't think I am saying this a general statement!

Good luck...sounds like you have an interesting case.

dana
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:51:06 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1b1g4aINNt7q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an725@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul L. Fortman, Jr.) writes:
>

>headaches, the ones I call "sinus migraines", then any sound, light, etc,
>bothers me.
>
>>That's true.  The migraine patient does not want *any* stimulation
>>and withdraws to a dark, quiet, alone place to try to sleep.
>>This behavior is strikingly different from cluster headache
>>patients (an even worse type of vascular headache).  The cluster
>>patient can not lie still and gets up and paces the floor incessantly.
>>Cluster patients may even commit suicide from the pain.
>
>I get this kind of headache quite frequently, and they are much worse 
>than the migraines.
>

I would just say that you had a severe migraine.  Sinus likely plays
little role in your headaches.  Remember that vascular headaches
such as migraines come in many flavors from mild to severe.  When
they are severe, they are almost intolerable.








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Xref: sparky sci.med:19301 sci.med.nutrition:951
From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Gamma hydroxy butyrate =?= Human Growth Hormone releaser
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:23:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Oct16.162315.8998
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <1bm11kINNocb@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:

>In article <1992Oct10.182749.3098@pixel.kodak.com> young@serum.kodak.com writes:
>>[from the Tufts Nutrition Letter]
>>
>>        One magazine ad the researchers came across talked about a product
>>        containing tryptophan, an amino acid that should have come off the
>>        supplement market three years ago.  That's because some people who
>>        took tryptophan tablets came down with a rare blood disorder called
>>        eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome, the symptoms of which include severe
>>        muscle and joint pain, swelling of the arms and legs, high fevers,
>>        and shortness of breath.  It's not that tryptophan itself presents
>>        a danger; it's the fact that some tryptophan supplements were
>>        improperly formulated -- that is, manufactured with impurities that
>>        turned out to be quite harmful.  The FDA recalled all tryptophan
>>        supplements in 1989, but to date they have been linked to more than
>>        1,500 cases of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome, 38 of which resulted
>>        in death.
>
>Does anyone else find the tone of this paragraph quite insulting?

[...]

   Actually, I tend to agree with this evaluation (and I feel that I can
   comment, since I posted the original article), although I'm not sure
   "insulting" is the right word; I would choose "misleading."  They
   eventually got around to saying that the problems were due to impurities,
   not due to the tryptophan itself, but they certainly took their own sweet
   time doing it.

   I admit to a certain disappointment in a publication I usually find to
   be accurate, but I'll give them a "bye" on this one and watch for a while.

   If nothing else, this underscores the admonition that ALL literature be
   read with a critical eye.  I posted the article because the general point
   behind it is a good one...the supplements advertised in the health and
   fitness magazines are expensive and useless at best, and dangerous at
   worst (someone just wrote me an e-mail about one which claimed the
   nutritional benefits of mercury and uranium).


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Interim Report From FAQ Working Group
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:14:45 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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About a month ago, in response to concerns about the quantity and content of
sci.med postings, I took a straw poll asking if sci.med wanted an FAQ file to
help releive some of the repetitiousness of common questions & often-rehashed
debates.  Because of a strong positive response, I asked for volunteers.  This
is how the 15-member FAQ Working Group was formed.

Because we all have other lives/commitments, our work is proceeding more slowly
than we'd at first hoped.  However, we do now have:

I. 	An FAQ/FTP site at which to store FAQ files.
II.	An outline of the structure of the FAQ files.
III.	Volunteers working on writing portions of the FAQ files.
IV.	A review procedure for written material.

Our (my?) original hope was that this could alleviate some of the stresses on
sci.med.  I am still hopeful.  For more info about specifics, or if you want to
join the volunteers in developing FAQ files, e-mail me.

Hope to report back with more progress soon.

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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From: wsadjw@rw9.urc.tue.nl (Jan Willem Nienhuys)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:30:34 GMT
Reply-To: wsadjw@urc.tue.nl
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

In article <2061@snap> paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson) writes:
>open-mindedness of science to new ideas and the way in which the
>truth won through.  John Maddox deserves credit for his handling of
>the affair.
[the Benveniste affair]

I beg to differ. In the first place the article of Davenas et al.
(Nature 333, p. 816 ff)  continues to be cited by various proponents
of homeopathy.  In the second place the way Maddox handled the affair
(inviting Randi and Stewart) wounded the ego of Benveniste (when it turned
out negative for B.) and left the loophole that this was not a proper
scientific investigation but a circus.  In the third place, I seem to
remember Maddox himself not being very enthousiastic about the
experience. "Has it been worthwhile? The short answer is `No'. ... the
longer answer is that there are several ways in which the afaair has been
instructive ..". 
And Maddox goes on to explain that Nature has learned much about the
fallibility of the refereeing process (but M. omits the glaring statistical
give-aways that the original Davenas paper had and that none of the
referees saw) and also Maddox says something about "the uncomfortable
findings .... that Nature appears to be shackled in the public mind to the 
totem-pole of absolute veracity."  (all from Nature 335 (1988) p.760-763).

JWN
From: proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Forced kidney donations
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:27:27 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.103129@axion.bt.co.uk> jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell) writes:
>
>
>This is not a lunatic raving, just someone interested.
>
>I recently read the posts regarding the use of pig's livers in humans.  Recently,
>there has been a rumour close to my home town of young people being sold
>"drugs" at parties which have later turned out to be tranquilisers.  The young
>people disappear for 3-4 days and when they return, a very professional job has been
>made of the removal of a kidney.
>
>Until now, I have dismissed this has a stupid rumour, but the post got me
>thinking.  If the operation is possible, would this make the "scam" described
>lucrative.  I have heard that so far, the local police are aware of this happening
>in Chelmsford and Hertford and a two other places in the Herts and Essex area of 
>England.  Any observations or comments on the practicalities of this would be welcome.
>
>Please, no flames, I am asking out of interest.
>
>Jon

Why would anyone bother sewing them up again and returning them to where
they came from? Why not take both kidneys and dump the body somewhere?

Paul
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:41:17 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct5.150000.14535@genie.slhs.udel.edu> nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz) writes:
>
>It's my impression that migraines make people want to hide in dimly
>lit, quiet rooms with no other people, whereas sound, light, and
>company (within reason) have no effect on sinus headaches. 
>
That's true.  The migraine patient does not want *any* stimulation
and withdraws to a dark, quiet, alone place to try to sleep.
This behavior is strikingly different from cluster headache
patients (an even worse type of vascular headache).  The cluster
patient can not lie still and gets up and paces the floor incessantly.
Cluster patients may even commit suicide from the pain.

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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Zoloft (was Re: Forwarded message)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:40:50 EDT

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.921012132136.704@ACSNovell1.uta.edu> DONAHOE@acsnovell1.uta.edu (Sean Donahoe) writes:
>    I have a friend who was prescribed an anti-depressant (she
>thinks), and all that is marked on the prescription bottle, (besides
>the doctor's name, dosage, and her name) is the word ZOLOFT.  I have
>tried to find this in the 1992 editions of the PDR, Merck's, USAN,
>AHFS, and other guides.  There seems to be no entry as either a
>product name or generic name.  Also, no phychotropic listings that
>are even closely spelled or phonectically close to ZOLOFT.  Anyone
>know what this stuff is?  It really alters her mood (makes her horny
>as a mink).  Really like some info on contraindications and
>interactions.

Zoloft is an antidepressant (sertraline - Pfizer), introduced in the
USA in Feb-March 1992, therefore not yet in the PDR.  It is a specific
serotonin reuptake inhibitor like Prozac.  Zoloft can cause nausea, dry
mouth, headache, diarrhea, and very rarely, increased anxiety or
worsened insomnia as well as anorgasmia or decreased libido.  Most
patients tolerate it very well with little if any side effects.

--
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================ courtesy of syracuse university ================
From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:10:53 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1av584INNfhe@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
|yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
||	a pill or an antedote.  I mean if you are allergic to cats
||	do you keep cats and take antihistimines, or get rid of the
||	cats.
||	This is simple.
|
|You take antihistimines and keep the cats, obviously.
|
|Imagine, a household without cats.  What a dreary place.
|
|Is such a life worth living?
|	- Brian

I totally agree. This guy Alan obviously has no reality contact,
or appreciation for the finer things in life.

I've got four cats, a dog, a rabbit, turtle, and fish. You're
welcome to come over to my place, but if you're allergic to
any of them, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO GOES!

 -km
From: muradia@bcarh1ed.bnr.ca (Rajiv Muradia)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Stomach problems
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:08:04 GMT
Reply-To: muradia@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

I seem to be suffering from some stomach problems for a while now. I have seen
a gastroentologist (sp?) he could not find anything serious (no ulcer). My 
problem is that I have acidity build up almost all the time, which requires me to take Malox. I have been on Zantac, it helps but I do not want to be dependent on it. Is there anything that can be done? Has anyone else experienced similar
symptoms?

-- 
 Rajiv,

 muradia@bnr.ca     
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From: eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki)
Subject: Re: Ketoprofen  was Re: Ibuprofen
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:10:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.052456.22227@rigel.econ.uga.edu> hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:

>    Does anyone know anything about ketoprofen?  It works a *hell*
>    of a lot better than ibuprofen at relieving pain, and yet
>    is a prescription drug.  Why is this?

It works essentially in the same way as ibuprofen, but is a bit more potent, 
i.e. you get the same results by taking 400 mg of ibuprofen or 50 mg keto-
profen, roughly. Some people benefit more from one, some from the other.
It was qualified here in Finland as an OTC drug a couple of months ago and 
I suspect the same will happen the in the U.S. sooner or later. Probably later,
as far as FDA is concerned. The reason that ibuprofen is ahead as an OTC drug
is probably that it is an older invention - experience and long-term
testing has shown it to be safe enough for OTC sales. 

Interestingly, the reason it was released here for OTC sales is that it's the 
most prescribed NSAID painkiller by Finnish doctors, and given the fact that 
the state covers about 50% of prescription-only medication, the ministry of 
health decided to save some bucks and make it OTC. Neat. Luckily, patients 
with arthritis and other chronic inflammatory diseases still get it for free.

/ep
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: jrm@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.r.miller)
Subject: Are there any virtuous viruses?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:42:41 GMT
Keywords: virus disease

	Yet another wonderful virus has attacked my nasal passages probably
thanks to my children. I have been trying to recall what I know or have
heard about viruses in general. As far as I'm concerned I feel that
genocide is the appropriate treatment for all viruses everywhere. But
before I do that, I thought I should ask to see if there are any "useful"
viruses. For example, there are "useful" bacteria (E. coli?) that live in
my intestines that aid in digestion in some manner. Are there any viruses
that are accidently useful as well? How about potential use for virus - as I
recall, they take over a cell and turn it to satisfy their own reproductive
urges. Perhaps their affinity for cell hi-jacking could be put to use in
fighting some other disease. 

	Anyway -- just a thought, before I declare genocide on the entire
virus population of the earth.

	Damn nasal headache, ohhhhhhh!

				John Miller

				Columbus, Ohio, USA
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Subject: Re: allergy shots and asthma
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:31:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.135314.22871@europa.asd.contel.com>, draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER) writes:
> 
> I read a posting in another directory that said that allergy shots can
> lead to asthma.  Does anyone have any information on this?

Did they mean chronically or as a one-time reaction?  People can
have anaphylactic reactions to shots.  (I had one after scratch
tests; not at all fun.)  I don't know if shots can cause chronic
problems.
-- 
Krista Anderson, att!ihlpf!krista
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: MEDICINE SLOWER TO CATCH UP
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:42:35 GMT

In article <16886@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.194609.4806@sr.com> dks@srhqla.sr.com (Dave K. Sprow) writes:
>
>|Again, my only point is to ask the ridiculous, i.e, for the medical and
>|scientific communities to put more of their research dollars into
>|their own research from claims from more alternative approaches of
>|health care rather than just debunking everything from some superior
>|self-serving attitude.  Honestly, as far as I can see, these alternative
>|approaches seem to be about 20 years or so ahead of established
>|medical thinking. Medicine does a lot.  It would great if they could
>|be more open-minded and at least *consider* some of these things.  We
>|would all be better off if they people with the most money would put
>|some of those research dollars into this kind of research... with some
>|commitment to thr truth, not protecting special interest.
>
>I'm not sure that I agree with you that dietary manipulation is
>a form of "alternative medicine." If it is, then thousands of
>mainstream physicians are guilty of practicing it.
>
>Ideas from alternative medicine are not necessarily wrong, but are
>often unproven. This is why mainstream medicine will always seem
>like it is behind the times. Mainstream medicine waits for studies
>to be done to confirm ideas, unless things are "obvious". It is
>not putting something down to say that you have no basis to believe
>it. If you have that eating 50 carrots a day will prevent some
>disease, fine. The difference between that and the way I practice
>medicine is that I am not going to advise my patients to eat the
>50 carrots a day until someone does the studies to prove that it
>works. And I'm not going to sell you carrots.
>
> km
>
>
I understand this and have no disagreement with it. But this is a different
attitude of many in the medical community that just write off alternative
health ideas as bunk without checking it out for themselves.  And my point
about research dollars going into investigation into at least some   
alternative methods would be more than 'nice'. Again, I see the problem
as a variance in the medical/alternative methods of thinking about
health.  I wish there was a way to get the best of both.

David
From: deeds@oracle (Deanna J. Deeds)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Migraine headaches without the pain?
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:44:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: hacgate.23668
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Gordon Couger (gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu) wrote:
: with amazing regularity for the better part of a week I would get a
: full visual aura and loose a substantial portion of my vision for about 30
  ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^

Is this a bright ring or sometimes two half-circle arcs of shimmery
"light" (looks like), which block the outer portion of your field of 
view?  My brother and I have both experienced this, and I've wondered 
if it could be a manifestation of a migraine.
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