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From: Berni@wiwipc18.uni-bielefeld.de (BernhardStrohmeier)
Subject: ARE THERE POSTSCRIPT PREVIEWERS AVAILABLE?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:22:01 GMT
Organization: Fakultaet fuer Wirtschaftswissenschaften, Uni Bielefeld, Germany

					
Hello,		
the title says it. Has anyone knowledge about postscript previewers
in the public domain?

bstrohm@erasmus.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de
From: crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Error -97 with System 7 DA's
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:18:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi,

Anybody seen error -97 when trying to use System 7 DA's?  I'm installing
FileGuard protection software onto our Hard Drive and noticed after that
the Calculator, NotePad, Alarm Clock, Puzzle, and Scrapbook don't work. 
The Chooser and Control Panels however work just fine.

Chris Kunselman
University of Pittsburgh
crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Il Hyung Cho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Later System's won't have TrashCan?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:13:27 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: LORAL - Western Development Labs

In article <1992Sep11.130235.6852@mmm.serc.3m.com>, pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby) writes:
> 
> A friend of mine read an article in USA Today (either Tuesday or
> Wednesday's edition) which apparently claimed that later System release
> for the Macintosh will no longer sport the Trash Can.  The article said
> something about how it causes too much confusion....
> 
> My friend also inferred from the article that this "trashless Finder"
> could happen as soon as System 7.1.
> 
> Any creedence to this 'report'?  I don't hold USA Today in any sort of
> esteem as a high-tech-reporting-journal, but he seemed to think it might
> be fact.
> 


As for System 7.1, they still DO have the trash can.  How I know?  A frend of
mine is current running System 7.1b7.  I cannot see why one would want to
get rid of it.  How would one be able to delete any files?  C:\> del system?

NOT!  I don't think so.  I'll believe when it happens otherwise, don't believe
any rumors unless it's absolutely true, then it won't be a rumor but fact!

Il Hyung Cho
cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Re: My DA's won't work under Multifinder... 
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:51:27 GMT

nasadk@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski) writes:
>What does Backgraounder do?

It >snicker< runs in the background.


But seriously, yes, what *does* backgrounder do?
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From: robinson@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Brenton Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: empty folders that can't be deleted
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:59:10 GMT
Organization: University of Adelaide, South Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: adam.adelaide.edu.au
Originator: robinson@adam.adelaide.edu.au

I have a Mac SE with a 40mb hard disk operating with System 7.0. There are
several empty folders on the hard disk which I can't delete. After I place
the empty folders in the trash and select 'empty trash' I get the message
'folder in use by the System and can't be removed'. I have tried the following
procedures to remove the folders but without success:
(1) emptying the trash with the option button depressed.

(2) starting-up with System 6.03 on a floppy disk and then conducting the
trash procedure.

I would be pleased to receive any suggestions.

Thanking you in advance.

Brenton Robinson           (robinson@adam.adelaide.edu.au)
University of Adelaide
South Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bondir@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (RICHARD BONDI)
Subject: Smooth Kanji Fonts and Egword Alternatives?
Keywords: Kanji Font Egword
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:53:02 GMT

I have two problems
1. The Kanji fonts from my (old - 2.1) version of Egword are bitmap fonts, 
not smooth.  Are there any smooth Kanji fonts, and where I can I get them?
2. Is there a cheaper alternative to Egword, especially without having to 
use KanjiTalk?

Thanks!
Please send replies to rsb5c@Virginia.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Farmer)
Subject: Re: ATM for free, or is it?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: NCSA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:58:44 GMT

 
> Though if you NEED exactly those 4 type families, mail-order is the
> way to go, this is still a pretty good deal.  For example, I never use
> Helvetica, but I love Garamond.  I may just use Garamond on everything
> now.  Before, Garamond looked really icchy from a StyleWriter.  Now
> it looks nice.  Great output for $7.50 (which is much less than $60).

> Sendhil Revuluri (s-revuluri@uchicago.edu)

Serious Question: How do I get a copy? Mail order or contact Adobe direct
or
what?

Please eamil


Thanks
Chuck
cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu


Only a fool is sure - Moe Howard
From: macman+@pitt.edu (Dennis H Lippert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Error of Type 90?
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:24:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: macman@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu

Hi all.

A good friend of mine has a new IIsi (9/80, running 7.0) and has problems 
with several applications (ArchiDraw, some math package whose name escapes
me, and a few others) "unexpectedly quitting because an error of type 90
occurred".

Mathematica will not run on this machine because it has no coprocessor, and
I'm wondering if this might be the same problem... except without as good
an error handler as Mathematica.

Anybody know what a type 90 error is?  If so, reply to me at macman+@pitt.edu.
(unfortunately, the classes have again started, so I can't read news often
anymore)


-- 
===============================================================================
Dennis Lippert   -   macman+@pitt.edu or macman@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
The "Mac Maniac" operator at the Hillman Research Lab - Univ. of Pittsburgh
"All comments are mine, you'd look like a fool if *you* used them"
From: sold@kit.uni-kl.de (Christoph Sold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Developer CDs
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:42:59 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Kaiserslautern

In article <16002.2AAE8BA2@zeus.ieee.org> Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi) writes:
>From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
>Subject: Re: Developer CDs
>Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:44:16 GMT
>Still in search of the best dim sum place in Michigan! 
>
>  it> If you need an "official" Apple copy, get it from the Apple
>  it> Developer's CD (free with a subscription to Develop). The latest CD
>  it> ("Hack to the Future") is now out, and among its many goodies are
>  it> International System 7.0.1 for Russian, Czech, Hunarian, Polish,
>  it> Croation, etc. And of course it has the Tuneup 1.1.1.
>  it> 
>  it> Bruce Long Arizona State University
>  it> 
>  it> --- AMB v6.33
>  it>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org [140.98.1.1] (1:107/10)
>
>Where do I write to get a subscription and how much? Please help!
>

Try apda@applelink.apple.com. Theses are the people selling developer 
products for Apple.

>Thank you in advance.
>
>--  
>=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
> Eric Choi - Internet: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org

You're welcome
-Christoph

Christoph P. Sold                   CATS Software GmbH
                                    Mussbacher Landstr.2
sold@kit.uni-kl.de                  W-6730 Neustadt (Weinstrasse)
ger.xse0035@applelink.apple.com     Germany

"If an apple is fun, what the heck is an appletree?"
From: Kaz.Karl@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Kaz Karl)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Win/NT
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 02:02:31 -0500

   All you Windows Bashers should try to remember that the entire hardware
package needed to run Windows NT well will still cost a fraction of a comperable
Mac...Short an time...
CYA

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie)
Subject: SE30 won't boot from external drive WHY?
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:55:51 GMT

My SE/30 refusese to boot from an external hard drive.
I don't think it's the drive, since an IIsi booted from
it OK. The internal drive is a Quantum 40 Meg, teh external
a Seagate ST1186 150 Meg. Has anyone had a similar problem
or have any ideas where I might start looking for the
answer?

Both disks have system 7.0.1, neither SystemSwitcher or the
Startup Disk control panel work.

Any help much appreciated

JOhn Reekie
From: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Is it possible to use System 6.08 on a Classic II
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:11:35 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

In <1992Sep3.221853.74@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> craddock@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Craddock) writes:

>bbesler@ouchem.chem.oakland.edu (Brent H. Besler) writes:
>>Is it possible to run a Classic II on System 6.08?  Alot of old but
>>usefeul software won't run under System 7, plus it is annoyingly slow
>>compared to 6.08.  I have tried taking 7 off of the HD and just about
>>every possible variation to get 6.08 running on it, but it always comes
>>back with a message at bootup saying it needs a newer system.
>Yes it is. But you need a special version release 6.0.8L. This version
>has been written for the classic II and PB 100. It is supported by apple
>but is hard to get hold of. It is mainly intended for the education
>market. We have a lab with some classic II's running 6.0.8L without any 
>problems.

>I suggest you try apple and I wish you luck. 

6.0.8L is not available in the United States.  Apple will know nothing about
it if you ask them, and will not distribute it in the US.  Several people
on the net have said "oh yeah, I have *that*", but they have all been non-US
Apple customers (there was someone from Canada, even).  The legality of FTPing
6.0.8L to someone in the US hasn't been decided by the non-lawyers on the net.

ALLEGEDLY, 6.0.8 wasn't 100% debugged for use with the Classic II ROMs, and 
Apple decided System 7 was what everyone wanted anyway, so the ROMs refuse to 
boot with any system that isn't System 7; 6.0.8L 'pretends' to be System 7 when
the ROMs do their check.  So, if you know how to hack the system...

Maybe Apple has it because the prices are higher overseas and that way people
can get by with 2MB RAM?

Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dcho@scott.skidmore.edu (douglas cho)
Subject: What's wrong with my system?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:51:12 GMT


Has anyone ever had the kind of problem I'm just about to describe?

I'm running Multifinder under system 6.1.7, and I'm trying to print a
letter using my Stylewriter printer. The problem is that everytime I
print it just doesn't come out right.

How wrong is the result? Well, the first line of the document prints
out alright. But, the problem creeps in from the second line in such a
way that only the left two or so inches of the paper is used.

BTW, I'm using word 4.0.

So far I have observed that all fonts (those that came with the
StyleWriter Installer) result in more or less identical outputs.

I've self-tested the printer and it seems to be alright. I'm
suspecting that the System software is somewhat screwed up. Does
anyone have any clues to what's going wrong?

Any help will be heartily appreciated. Thanks a bunch.

Doug.
From: akir@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Ziad Akir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HD Backup Under System 7.0
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:01:06 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens
Originator: akir@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu



Hi:

Can somebody please give me an idea about hard disk backup programs for macs 
that operates under system 7.0+.  A friend of mine asked me about that and I
thought it comes with the system like the HD Backup program from Apple that
comes on the System Utilties disk for system 6.0.

Thanks ...
From: al862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brent D. McLean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: ATM for free, or is it?
Date: 5 Sep 1992 11:53:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: al862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brent D. McLean)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


	Here's a question that's been bugging me for a while now. ATM
was made available free or nearly free for a good long time now. After
the offer became available I noticed that MacConnection, etc. were still
sellong it. I initially just thought it was the time lag in removing it
from their advertising, but now after all this time the major mail order
companies are still selling it. My last MacConnection catalog shows
version 2.0.3 for $59. So what's the deal? Is it free or not? Just
wondering.

-- 
 Brent D. McLean                     -  "I'm at the corner of Walk and 
 al862@cleveland.freenet.edu         -       Don't Walk..."
From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: condensed text views on sys7?
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:34:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep7.183435.1267
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I used Layout 1.9 to condense the icons vertically in the text views so
that I could see more on the screen at a time. But Layout 1.9 (on the Mav
Bible disks) won't let me edit the finder under sytem 7. Is there
another way? Also, using ResEdit you were suppoed to be able to do it
editing the LAYO resource, but it's not there anymore.
 
scott hudziak
hue@pro-freedom.cts.com

ProLine:  hue@pro-freedom
Internet: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!hue
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: crispy@space.mit.edu (Chris Pak)
Subject: Korean Word processing
Reply-To: crispy@space.mit.edu (Chris Pak)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:56:20 GMT


I am looking for decent Korean fonts or Korean wordprocessing software for System 7. My budget is less than $250.

Any help would be appreciated.



----------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher S. Pak
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Center for Space Research
37-662c
email: crispy@space.mit.edu
phone: (617) 253-9342
From: hise@iastate.edu (Allan R Hise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: savvy extension
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:15:48 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Does anyone out there use the savvy extension found at umich ftp site?
It does not seem to do what it says it is supposed to...  Anyone know of any
conflicts (I use a lot of extensions and CPs)

For the record, I use a mac IIsi, system 7.01 w/ Yuneup 1.1.1, 17 MB Ram
(32-bit addressing on) - based on the nature of the extension, it does not seem
like any of the above should result in the problem.

The blurb aboput the extension says that it displays information in the 
"About this Macintosh" window.  This information is supposed to tell you
how system 7 savvy (whatever tham means) the currently running applications
are, and (more iportantly IMHO) whether the application is 32 biut clean or
not.  I get a normal " about this macintosh" box.

Anyone know anything about this extrension??

Thanks
Allan
hise@iastate.edu

-- If I told you why I have no .sig, I would have to kill you.
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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! (was Re: Should I turn 32-Bit Addressing On or Off?)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:28:32 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


John Hamilton Slye <jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> On 10-Sep-92 in Re: Should I turn 32-Bit Ad..
> user Eric S. Smith@infoserv.c writes:

> >triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos) writes:

> >> vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols) writes:

> >>    Pretty weird... I've been using system 7 on an LC II for several
> months and
> >>    have had 32-Bit Addressing off the whole time.  What are the pros
> and cons
> >>    of this feature?  Will it de-stabilize things?  Speed things up? 
> Thanks...

> >> Basically, unless you have more than 8MB of RAM (be it physical or virtual),
> >> there is almost no reason to turn it on.  32-bit addressing allows your
> >> computer to utilize any RAM above 8MB.

> >32-bit addressing is necessary to access physical memory above 8 MB.
> >The amount of virtual memory that can be accessed in 24-bit mode, on
> >machines that support virtual memory, is 14 MB less 1 MB per NuBus card.

> >This makes virtual memory an attractive option for users with less than
> >8 MB physical but who need somewhat more than that and would prefer not
> >to use 32-bit mode. I used this setup for a few months but was unhappy
> >with the degradation I saw in system performance. So I bought more RAM,
> >turned on 32-bit mode and had to upgrade a couple of my inits (er,
> extensions).
 
> HELP! I have 9 megs of RAM & I followed the above advice & HALF OF THE
> APPLE MENU ICON DISAPPEARED! It reappears when I click on the icon &
> disappears when I let go of the button.

> Has anyone encountered this problem before? Is there some specific
> extension that is causing this problem?

I don't understand. Which advice was it that you followed?
Did you turn on 32-bit mode or did you enable virtual memory?


-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mja52590@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael J. Alford)
Subject: Re: 7.x.x Finder Heap Allocation ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 08:13:13 GMT

I read somewhere that one can boot with System 6, do a "Get Info" on the
System 7 Finder to edit, and change the application size of the System
7 Finder.

.
:w


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg)
Subject: Multiple Extension Levels? IDEA
Organization: Personal Account - Digital Express Greenbelt, MD
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 14:23:57 GMT

To me, one of the biggest problems with releasing system enhancements as
extensions is, when you are trying to minimize extension conflicts, you
have to turn off the Tuner, QuickTime, etc. as well as the troublesome
extensions.

What we need is a transparent way of designating QuickTime, Tuner, etc as
'System-level' extensions, so that when you press the Shift key, these
stay in and the others are skipped.

I hope to invite discussion of this, and to perhaps get Apple's attention.
Thanks. -Gary

-- 
- Gary Goldberg og@access.digex.com Bowie, MD KA3ZYW
And NO organization to represent. ' ... Free, free at last ...'
Info on 'The Simpsons'? Let me know.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: elVerBook and MAC Extended Keyboard. OK?ed modification0063)2. THAN
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:39:05 GMT

.Dewhirst@macrocosm.omahug.org (Rob Dewhirst) writes:

    FF(> Is there any problem with connecting the SE's extended keyboard 
    FF(> to the PB170? Would power drain be a problem.

   The ADB extended does not conform to Apple's low power desktop bus specs, and
   does not have the little symbol on the bottom (almost-closed circle) that
   indicates it is safe.

Ah, but the ISO Extended (S-shaped) does indeed have the low-power
symbol on it. Too bad it's only made for foreign layouts :-)
(Actually, I think you can get it for the US too)

   I have two models of ADB extended, two of ADB non-extended, and none of them
   have the low-power desktop bus symbol on the bottom. My conclusion is that it
   is not recommended to plug any Apple keyboard into your PB. 

Oh, so wrong.

-- 
Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Sweden, Phone +46-8-107069

Help eradicate FIDO-Net <-> Usenet gateways in our time!
From: matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Matthew Coohill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: trash
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:39:03 GMT
Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA
X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.


	Hello.

	I am sending this out to several *.mac read-news groups, so sorry for
  repeat postings.

	I work at a company which creates software for Unix based workstations.
  However, our administration uses Machintoshes.  I need to get a program that
  will flawlessly run on the Macintoshes (so as not to confuse the admin
  people) that will allow them to mail each other and the rest of us on the
  Unix end of things.  They (of course) can telnet (or whatever) onto our
  main Unix machine and use regular mail like the rest of us... but that would
  be TOO hard for them to handle.

	So I would like to request information on mailing pacakges that work
  across platforms (like cc:mail by lotus or whatever).  All info and opinions
  would be greatly appreciated.

  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Please e-mail ME directly, seeing as I don't belong to this read-news group!

			matthew@wavefront.wti.com

  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Thanks, in advance!

  matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: RJONES1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Bart Jones)
Subject: Re: WARNING: HATE POST! (was News)
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:40:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.224705.20072@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai) writes:
 
>
>Hey, folks, I get the idea that that woman under whose name that hate
>post got posted was probably the victim of a prank... I mean, nobody
>would be so stupid as to post such a blatantly racist message to, of
>all places, comp.sys.mac.system, right? She probably left her machine
>logged on or someone cracked her password, right? Right????
 
 
   If you guys will look at the address of that message, you'll find that it
came from a Fidonet node.  Probably some local (in the 614 area code-Ohio)
thought she was posting her message on the local Biggot BBS.  She, too, shall
pass.
 
 
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