HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: enf1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric Fischer)
Subject: Re: Analog Beatles
Reply-To: enf1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:05:12 GMT

>But then again, I miss the false take at
>the beginning of "I'm Looking Through You"....

speaking of which, what is the story with this?  I hadn't noticed it until a
few days ago when I was comparing my mono and stereo Rubber Soul LPs (both
US Capitol) and this suddenly stuck out like a sore thumb, though a pleasant
one.  Do I understand correctly that the EMI LPs and CDs don't include this?
I looked for a reference in Lewisohn, but couldn't find one... does anyone
know the story?

Thanks!

Eric
From: rlich@atr-19.scg.hac.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Whitburn (was: World Without Love - No Demo?)
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:36:35 GMT
Reply-To: rlich@atr-19.UUCP ()
Distribution: usa


In article <1992Jul24.123243.5253@mic.ucla.edu> dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu (saki) writes:

>>In article <22430@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, rlich@atr-19.scg.hac.com writes:
>>>Anyone have any insight as to why one of the most successful Lennon/McCartney
>>>giveaways, Peter and Gordon's _World Without Love_, has never been heard
>>>as performed by the boys?
>>>
>>>This was a tremendously popular tune.  It was number 1 in the USA for 11
>>>weeks, according to WHITBURN.  
>
>It must be a typo. "World Without Love" could not have been Number 1
>for eleven weeks; even the Beatles' first singles weren't in the top
>
>Now the real question is: has anyone heard the Bobby Rydell cover of
>"World Without Love"? It actually got airplay in my radio market before
>Peter & Gordon made their mark.
>
>--
>"Modern music is, however, the groups' delight, and as if to prove the
>point, John and Paul have written over 50 tunes, ballads & faster
>numbers, during the last three years!"_________________________________
>                                        saki (dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu)


 All right, I already admitted that my initial post saying eleven number-one
 weeks was in error.  But after saki's last post, I'm beginning to think
 you're all a "bonch a sissies".

 You said there's no WWL demo cause, basically, Paul could've leaned over
 the dinner table and sung it to Peter and Jane Asher, by nature of their
 living arrangement.  Now you say there's a BOBBY RYDELL version?  Was
 Bobby there, passing the potatoes?  How could HE get a single charted be-
 fore Peter and Gordon?

 And WHY, then, can demos of Nobody I Know and Woman be found? (but not
 I Don't Want to See You Again), all Macca tunes for P&G?

 And my last riddle - WHAT THE HEY DOES SAKI's .SIG MEAN?!

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: franblan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Francois Marcel Blanc)
Subject: Ringo in the Bay Area
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:48:56 GMT

I remember someone posting that Ringo would be in the Bay Area on August 4th,
But I can't remember exactly where and how I could get tickets. I would
appreciate any information about it.
Thanks,
	Francois.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mcodogno@nyx.cs.du.edu (Maurizio Codogno)
Subject: A strange chord in Let It Be
Reply-To: mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:50:18 GMT


when Paul sings the third verse "I wake up to the sound of music,
*Mother Ma*ry comes to me..." there is a chord which is not the 
vi which appears in the other verses, and vich is delayed (in Italian
music jargon we call it a "ritardo".  Who can tell me which is it?
 
ciao! .mau.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: hpky@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski)
Subject: Re: Saki's .sigs (was Re: Whitburn (was: World Without Love ...))
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:13:21 GMT

In <1992Jul27.043442.10404@en.ecn.purdue.edu> prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave) wonders out loud:

>>>"Modern music is, however, the groups' delight, and as if to prove the
>>>point, John and Paul have written over 50 tunes, ballads & faster
>>>numbers, during the last three years!"_________________________________
>>>                                        saki (dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu)
>>
>> And my last riddle - WHAT THE HEY DOES SAKI's .SIG MEAN?!

>Good point!  Saki, would you PLEASE credit these things?!? :)  I've
>recognized a couple (like the "walls of Rome" one, which was pretty
>tricky), but I'd LOVE to know where you're getting these things!

I believe it is from a Beatles press release (circa early '60's) I-)

					James Willer email to jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
{The opinions above are probably NOT those of
 Hanan Polansky. I don't know. I never asked.}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: john@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Yellow submarine
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division, Austin, TX

In article <1992Jul22.170851.28555@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, ers1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (eugene.r.schroeder) writes:
|> What is being said in Yellow Submarine in the middle part?
|> I could never understand it.  From The Book I believe I read
|> that part of it is John saying "Full Speed Ahead Mister Captain,
|> Full Speed Ahead" which sounds right, but I still can't make out
|> the rest.

Call me crazy, but it always sounded to me like somebody says "Sgt.
Pepper, Sgt. Pepper" right before "All Aboard".  If so, this would be
interesting as Yellow Submarine (the song) predates the Sgt. Pepper
album by at least a year.

-- 
John Iacoletti    IBM AWD Austin    Internet: johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
     "Faith:  not *wanting* to know what is true." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Hey Jude - probably not available in CD format...
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:41:57 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Jul27.191117.25667@athena.mit.edu>, njblock@athena.mit.edu (Ned Block) writes:
> I have been unable to find a CD of the album Hey Jude in any stores in the
> Boston area.  In fact, when I tried to check its existence in one of the
> fancy inventory machines in Tower Records, Hey Jude (the album, NOT the single)
> was listed as `cassette only'.  I find it difficult to believe that the album
> was never made into a CD, and would very much like to find it.  
> 
> If anybody has any information on this please e-mail me at:
> eliza@psyche.mit.edu
> 
> Thanks in advance!

Hey Jude was one of the "hodge-podge" albums released in the US only.  Since
the re-releases on CD are all British releases, Hey Jude would not exist at all
on CD (except perhaps as some sort of bootleg).  You can get all the songs
which are on Hey Jude by getting ahold of both Past Masters CD's, I believe.

Thank you, Capitol-US for making our lives interesting...

Jim Bohy
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Subject: Re: Who wrote what?  Does it matter?
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:51:56 GMT


dowdling's _beatlesongs_ does a pretty good job.

of course, if you bear in mind the (mostly accurate) description of paul
as a happy-go-lucky who likes to write silly love songs (no pun intended,
well... maybe) and john as an angry depressed confused guy,
many of the differences in a particular song will become apparant.

also, they tended to sing what they wrote.  can you differentiate the
voices? that's another clue.

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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From: hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski)
Subject: Re: If I Fell, mono vs. stereo
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 05:19:38 GMT

In <1992Jul20.134400.23198@news.columbia.edu> a-brenna@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan) writes:

>In article <1992Jul18.063059.13974@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
>hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski) writes:

>>With regard to errors/ommisions see also:
>>	1)	John's vocal overdub on "Don't Let Me Down".

>This is a new one to me.  What evidence is there for this?  Do you
>mean the whole vocal?  

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

Throughout the song, John sings with Paul doing close harmony, except (!!!)
in the bridge ("I'm in love for the first time ... has no past") where *both*
vocals are John singing *nearly* identical lines. This *could* be argued that
this was a particularly effective use of ADT (see 'flanging'), BUT near the
very end of the song (during Billy's solo) Paul is singing extended
"OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"s and John is
alternating between Pseudo-JamesBrown 'growls' and the "Don't let me down" tag-
line.  At one point John simultaneously sings the tag-line *and* growls!!
(Quite the feat, unless you are an alien in a Cantina Band)

>--Joe Brennan

				James Willer at hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu
					OR jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
{The opinions above are probably not those of
 Hanan Polansky. I don't know. I never asked.}
From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: *sigh*
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:59:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.machman.712349992
Organization: University of Washington

hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!) writes:

>mary wells, best known for touring with the beatles in late 1964,
>died the other day after a long bout with throat cancer.  she was 49.

Wells was also a 2-pack-a-day smoker.  that makes it even more sad.

-- 
 /'''   The Machman     machman@milton.u.washington.edu    david c carroll
 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
   -                                                                       
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Her Majesty - a post scriptum
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 08:03:13 GMT

wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman) writes:
: >
: In Peter Brown's book (I think it's called 'The Love You Take'??)
: the foreword (again, my horrible memory fails me, maybe it's not
: the foreword) quotes the last line of "The End" as the last line
: of the last song of the Beatles career.  I got the impression that
: people close to the Beatles think that way.  Has anyone else read
: the book and have a better memory than I? :-)
: 
: Jeff         wayman@lamar.colostate.edu

Jeff,
I seem to recall that the last song the boys recorded all together was
released on Let It Be, but was recorded AFTER Abbey Road.  Seems to me
it was a George song, but I can't recall which one offhand.

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com


Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: sjked@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: ftp for lyrics??!!
Reply-To: sjked@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:14:23 GMT

Hi, first I might as well  tell you that I'm new to this group.
I remember a while ago, I found a hypercard stack of grateful
dead lyrics, that when printed out was over 1000 pages. I personally
don't like the dead, but I was wondering if any of you know where
I could get the Beatles lyrics (I DO like the Beatles.) Thanks in
advance.
From: ireland@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Polish Beatle Tapes
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:59:47 EST

When the album was released in this country originally, it had those
bizarre instrumental numbers on them (by the George Martin Orchestra),
at the expense of some other songs that were released on the British version
of AHDN - the British version was quite different. If you have AHDN on CD, I
believe that was based on the British - and not the ORIGINAL American -
release.


Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Japanese Tears
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:25:06 GMT

Believe it or not, Denny Laine's 1983 release "Japanese Tears" made it
out on CD.  The disc is OR0069 from "Object Enterprises"  (Prestwich
House, Caxton Way Watford, Hertfordshire WD1 8UF).  The name "Japanese
Tears" is nowhere to be found on the packaging, and the name of the CD
is apparently "DENNY LAINE featuring Paul McCartney: The Collection 
[Including Go Now, Say You Don't Mind, and Many More]"

This title is somewhat misleading, as McCartney is only present on two
tracks, "Send Me the Heart" (which Macca also co-wrote), and "Weep For Love".
The CD includes no liner notes beyond song titles, authors, and publishing
info.  The front cover is a vintage Moody Blues-era shot of Laine, and the
back hawks "Further releases from object Enterprises" (including such
diverse acts as Marilyn Monroe, Django Reinhardt, Pavarotti, and Maria Callas)

The disc itself sounds surprisingly clean, and was apparently made from 
the master tapes.  If the stories of Laine's current poverty are true 
(cf: Geoffery Guiliano's strongly pro-Laine _Blackbird_), he probably
sold the tapes to these people to make a quick buck.  The only bizarre thing
is that "Say You Don't Mind", which led off side two of the vinyl release
has been moved to the final track of the CD.

1. Japanese Tears (Laine) - D.L. Songs
2. Danger Zone (Laine) - D.L. Songs
3. Clock on the Wall (Laine) - D.L. Songs
4. Send Me the Heart (Laine/McCartney) - D.L. Songs / MPL Communications Ltd.
5. Same Mistakes (Laine) - D.L. Songs
6. Silver (Laine) - D.L. Songs
7. Go Now (Banks/Bennet) - Carlin Music Corp
8. Somebody Ought to Know the Way (Laine) - D.L. Songs
9. Lover's Light (Laine) - D.L. Songs
10. Guess I'm Only Foolin' (Laine) - D.L. Songs
11. Nothing to Go By (Laine) - D.L. Songs
12. I Could Only Smile (Laine) - D.L. Songs
13. Weep For Love (Laine) - D.L. Songs
14. Say You Don't Mind (Laine) - Sparta Florida Music Group Ltd.

as far as the actual music, it's listenable, but not very good.  Worth
the $6.00 I paid for it in the cut-out bin as a Macca collectable, but
not much more.

<ESC>
-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Analog Beatles
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:44:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Jul21.225058.9467@HQ.Ileaf.COM> pstodd@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Paul Stoddard x5559) writes:

>> [my own observations and comments deleted]
>> 
> [most of Paul Stoddards reply deleted]

Thanks for the update.

>One of the things that I suggested to EMI was that they release
>the first 4 in stereo, and the next 6 in mono, and this solution would satisfy
>most listeners, since all albums that had both mono and stereo versions in
>vinyl, would be available on CD.

>Comments?

I think that sounds like an excellent idea!!
Anyone else?
				James Willer at hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu
					OR jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
{The opinions above are probably not those of
 Hanan Polansky. I don't know. I never asked.}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Let it be
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 09:54:38 GMT

shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer) writes:
: 
: Abbey road was the last album recorded but Let it Be was the last
: album released.
: 
: Mike

Yes, but wasn't there a song on Let It Be that was the last one that the
Fab's recorded together?  I think it was a George song, I can't recall
offhand.

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com


Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Subject: Re: The worst Beatles compilations? (was: Re: The Old Mixmaster)
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:01:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.153852.8020@portal.vpharm.com>
dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:

>OK...This brings up an interesting question: What was the worst Beatle-related
>compilation/rehash?

Easy... pick through those American albums on Atco and MGM and their
subsidiaries that have 4 Tony Sheridan recordings with unrelated other
junk.  The Atco probably "wins" because they had someone overdub Pete
Best's drumming on a couple of them-- thereby making the records even
less authentic.

Depending on how we do the scoring, Vee Jay's "The Beatles vs the Four
Seasons" might beat them out on grounds of sheer stupidity.

I never really liked "The Beatles 1963-1966" as a compilation either.
Too unbalanced-- missing essential early album cuts ("I saw her
standing there"), including too much from "Rubber Soul".

--Joe Brennan
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Hey Jude
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:23:24 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Jul31.095114.3722@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>There's an extra verse to "While My Guitar....", in which George sings
>something like "I look through the weeds at the play you are staging.....while 
>I'm sitting here doing  nothing but aging".

Not to be petty, but this is most likely "wings" not "weeds".  Wings of
course being the sides of the stage to the extreme right and left not
visible from the audience.

Bruce




-- 
Bruce Dumes			| "Bruce is too obsessed with the Beatles"   |
Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
bad@sw.stratus.com              
508-460-2816
From: andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Taxman": new lyrics
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:50:27 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
: >>Don't ask me what I want it for  (Ha ha Mr. Major)
: >>If you don't want to pay some more (????????????)
: >                                  "ah ah Mr. Kinnock!"
: > 
: > This is a reference to current Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock.
: 
: Actually, Neil Kinnock has resigned as LaboUr Party leader and John
: Smith has taken over...   :-)

...which is a shame, because had he been leader at the time of the
gig, the lyric would have scanned much better (as good as the
original, I think). It's bad timing really. They should have held the
general election a few months earlier, then (assuming the result would
have been the same) it would have given The Quiet One a chance to get
his lyrics changed :-)



-- 
Andy Clews, Computing Service, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, England
JANET: andy@uk.ac.sussex.syma      OTHER NETWORKS: andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: rms@oclc.org (Russ Schnall)
Subject: Beatles Songs in 3/4
Summary: Any Beatles Songs in 3/4 time?
Keywords: Beatles Songs 3/4
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 18:29:50 GMT

I was trying to remember which Beatles' songs are written in 3/4 time.
4/4 and its variants seem to be the most predominant today.  Any ideas why 3/4
time is not used so much?

Thanks for any ideas.
From: jimk@fab4.UUCP (Jim Kendall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Scientific American (August issue)
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:10:20 GMT
Reply-To: jimk@fab4.UUCP (Jim Kendall)
Organization: Fab Four Archive - Liberty Lake, Wa.

saki writes:
>In article <679@fab4.UUCP> jimk@fab4.UUCP (Jim Kendall) writes:
>>
>>an extremely interesting dissertation on the differences in pitch per-
>>ception relative to height vs. position on the "chromatic clock" in
>>control groups of southern Californians and south Englanders. Apparently,
>>the two groups perceive musical pitch intervals quite differently.
>
>Only problem is... the Fabs are not southern Englanders. This renders
>the authors' entire thesis extremely suspect! Where were the fact
>checkers? Who gave these men their degrees? :-)

Thou misseth the point!

True, the Fabs are Liddypudlians and thus Norenglanders, nevertheless.
Nevertheless, the control groups themselvles are in and of the regions
of the south of the two respective locals of California and Great Britian,
respectively. So! While what you retort is altogether without falsehood
(vis a vis the Beatles are not from the south of England) neither are they
from the lower latitudes of the great state of California.

Redundantly yours (he said again and again).

Cheers!

--
"That Georgia girl is always on my mi mi mi mi mi mi mind"
                                                (Dr. Rock)
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From: bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles' record impact on you?
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:01:50 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

> Here's something I'm curious about regarding the rmb gang.  What song or
> record by the Beatles most impacted you when it came out.  I would imagine
> Please Please Me in the UK and I Wanna Hold Your Hand in the US would
> probably be at the top, but would like to hear from fellow fans on this.
 
Hmmm...

I was born in '67, so I doubt that any of the Beatle songs which came out in
the first three years of my life had an impact on me because of their actual
coming out.  Mom always tells a story of dancing around with me in her arms
while listening to Cecilia (Simon and Garfunkle), but not much about the
Beatles.

The first Beatles song I heard was either Day Tripper or We Can Work it Out (my
oldest sister had the single).  She gave me that record and I played it to
death.  When I formed my rock 'n' roll band in high school, Day Tripper was one
of the first songs we learned.

I can still remember that Elton John's version of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
was the first that I heard.  I listen to it now, after having heard the fabs
version, and wonder how the heck I ever liked it.

I can remember hearing Photograph and You're Sixteen a lot on the radio as
well...

In fact, most of the songs that have *impacted* on me have been post-Beatle
material.  But not usually the hits.  I think that Here Today and Only Love
Remains are two of the most beautiful and moving songs ever written.  Tug of
War as a whole is (IMHO) one of the great albums of all time (it would
certainly make my desert island list).

But we're talking about Beatles songs here.  The American release of Rubber
Soul has some of my favorites, including I'm Looking Through You, You Won't See
Me, I've Just Seen A Face, and Wait.  Abbey Road is so well put together, it is
another of my all-time favorite albums.

A friend of mine and I in high school used to walk around singing Happiness is 
A Warm Gun between classes.

But the song I love the most is most definitely a Paul song.  I have sung it to
my wife on more than one ocassion, and indeed it has described our relationship
extremely well.  That song is I Will.  And no song could better follow it than
Julia.

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