HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: huangp@ralphie.Colorado.EDU (PeiYu Huang)
Subject: NEWS - Taipei to Turn Parts of Jinmen into a National Park and War Memorial
Reply-To: huangp@ralphie.Colorado.EDU (PeiYu Huang)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:02:14 GMT

Source: UPI, 11/14/92. Edited by CND.

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- The government is drawing up plans to turn portions of
Jinmen (Kinmen) island, the last battleground in China's civil war, into a
national park and war memorial, the China Times reported Sunday.

The Interior Ministry, which oversees Taiwan's park system, has commissioned
scholars to assess the practicality of a national park and monument on Jinmen
island, 180 miles southwest of Taipei, the newspaper said.

The park would preserve traditional cultural sites as well as portions of
a military garrison used to defend Kinmen against repeated Communist attack,
the report said.

Jinmen, located 130 miles west of Taiwan and just 1.4 miles from China, has
been a front-line Nationalist outpost since Communist armies forced Chiang
Kai-shek's government into exile on Taiwan in 1949.

In 1958, China launched a full-scale military assault on Jinmen and Mazu,
a second Nationalist stronghold, prompting U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower
to dispatch American warships into the Taiwan Strait.

This confrontation, known as the Quemoy Crisis, was the last major battle of
the Chinese civil war.

China routinely shelled Nationalist position on Jinmen and Mazu until
Communist leader Deng Xiaoping ordered the firing stopped in 1979.

Last week Taiwan lifted martial law on both islands, ending four decades of
military rule.

Taiwan authorities say the return to civilian administration will make
Jinmen, which has a civilian population of 50,000, a popular tourist
destination.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ptyshih@watnow.uwaterloo.ca (Paul T.Y. Shih(Taku))
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:57:56 GMT

In article <Bxy6Et.I5s@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> positron <achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>One reason why most "normal" men desire virgin girls may
>be explained from an anthropological point of view.
>You see, due to the presense of sexually transmitted
>[bla,bla,bla....deleted]

Let's try to explain this from a psychological point of view. The reason why
"some" guys insist on marrying a virgin is that they are relatively more 
impotent comparing to other people. They are afraid of being teased by their
wife of being "Bu4-Sing2". So they rather marry someone who is inexperienced.
From: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:15:49 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1992Nov16.221957.17836@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> chan@aloft.att.com writes:
>Dear friends:
>
>The 55th anniversary of the Nanking Massacre is upcoming, and this
>will be the third year the overseas Chinese in North and South America
>have actively participated in the commemoration of this unforgettable
>tragedy in modern history.
>
> .....
>
>In Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Professional Teachers' Union will urge the
>Educational Department to revise the Chinese History curriculum for
>the secondary school to emphasize more on the Sino-Japanese War, 
>particularly the Nanking Massacre.  Similar lobbying plans have been
>proposed in California.  We hope the same can be done elsewhere.
>
> .........
>
>Let's continue with our campaign this year and keep up with the good work!
>
>NYHKN
>

It's useless to instigate the sentiments among Taiwanese, who largely
were people colonized by the Japanese before 1946 and still endear the
old days. Taiwanese is a special breed of the ethnic Chinese. People
who are 50 years or older are influenced deeply by the Japanese culture;
young people under 30 years are strongly influenced by Japanese pop culture.
Japanese pop figures are idols among them.

Today, once again Taiwan is colonized by Japanese culturally (even
Hong Kong).


-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ty Lee                                                                    */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: khchan@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (chan ka hei)
Subject: Research abstract spool
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:42:01 GMT

  Anybody know any ftp port from where we can find some R&D abstracts or
papers of foreign countries ?

Thanks in Advance.
Frank Chan (khchan@eng.ie.cuhk.hk)
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:06:24 -0500 
From: Adrian Yiu <ay24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: To all not virgin girls!!!!


In article <92320.175810CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:
 
>Because, what's the difference between a not virgin girl and a hore?.
>
>            Any comments?????
>
>Anthony.

Don't ever tell me that your girlfriend is not a "W"hore. And don't ever
tell me that you will never have sex before marriage(not that I'm saying
that guys who don't are "unhealthy".) Maybe retaining you virginity
before marriage is a virtue for you but that does not neccessarily
constitute the fact that non-virgins are whores. So, are you saying that
non-virgins are whores??
Man, you are either mentally demented or one of those chauvanistic guys
out there who still believe in the "old-traditional" style...Okay,
non-virgins are not whores!! Got that??!!


<<Anly>>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: senel@maria.wustl.edu
Subject:  test
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:28:05 GMT


pleeze ignore

H
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Subject: Re: Do you mind..... virgin?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:13:07 GMT

In article <1eei2bINNq23@ector.cs.purdue.edu> lyc@cs.purdue.edu (Ling-Yu Chuang) writes:
>>Because, what's the difference between a not virgin girl and a hore?.
>>
>>            Any comments?????
>>
>>Anthony.
>
>	I tried to count to 10 to calm myself down. I tried to read
>	everybody's opinion with an open mind. 
>	However, THIS IS NOT BEARABLE!!! 
>	This comment has insulted all girls who are not virgin including
>	his own Mom. (Don't tell me that your Mom IS a virgin, Anthony.)
[....]

To be fair with Anthony, he (and the thread) was talking about
pre-marital sex.  So it has nothing to do with someone already
married.  And please leave the Mom's out of the discussion.

Back to the "comments".  I am really surprised to see such comments
from someone (I meant Anthony) who has accessed to an "open" network
and communications means, but has such "closed" mindset.  I
understand though that some people in fact see all non-virgin gals as
the ones who would go to bed with any man; and of course, these gals
and guys do exist.  But the "generalized" comment was an insult to
many couples who are committed to each other, whether they are going
to get married or not.

Well, I've got to give my stand on the question "do you mind your
girl/boy friend to be virgin or not?", otherwise Anthony won't let me
get off the hook.  Well... I DO!  Just tell me who doesn't!  However,
I would qualify the word "mind" with word "prefer".  I will treat her
as "she is now", the one I actually know; but not as "she was then".

Chuan Lee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: linear@leghorn.engin.umich.edu (Hsien-Hsin  Lee)
Subject: Chen-C.P. in Yale
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:19:18 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: linear@leghorn.engin.umich.edu


 Chih-Ping:

Please let me know about the Email account of my previous classmate--Chang Li-Chung in MIT, whose brother studies in your school now. Thanx.

Linear
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:48:14 GMT

In article <By3ELC.Fry@acsu.buffalo.edu> stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shuoh-Ren Tsai) writes:
>
> 
>I would like to add some more comments from another point of view.
>If your girl friend/wife is not a virgin, will you trust her? Even she loves
>you very much, do you think it is going to last forever?

does this matter if she is a virgin?  there is no solid link between love
and virgin.

>Once love fades, don't you think she will try to find another fantasy ( sex )?
>What kind of girl do you think she is?  Can you concentrate on your careers?

once love fades, it doesn't matter if she is a virgin, she will leave you
anyway.  by the way, she can love you and, in the same time, find another
fantasy.

and, 'girl' or 'emotion' is not a good execuse for career problems for me.

>My point is the responsibility. If you want to have sex with each other, you
>get to take the responsibility. Otherwise, it is not wise.

your assumpsion is based on the equation: sex = love, and love = marriage.
the marriage is a responsibility, i agree with you (well, some people may
not agree this).  but, i don't think we can say sex = marriage, or sex = love
today.  there is no such standard any more.

i think your assumpsion is too simple for the real world.


cs shao.
From: hongzen@coombs.anu.edu.au (Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: WANTED: 2 GUYS NAMED ZHENG4 LU4-LIN2 AND LIN2 CHI4-WEN2
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:13:35 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

Dear Netter,

I am sorry to tell you what I am. 
My name is Wang2 Hong2-ren2, studying in Australian National Uni.
I graduated from National Taiwan Uni, sociology graduate school in 1988.
Now I am studying in Australian National Uni.
My e-mail address is 
	hongzen@coombs.anu.edu.au
Thanks.
From: yilin@mits.mdata.fi (Yi-Lin Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: TOFEL information required
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:26:53 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland

Hi,

Do you have the address of the office of the organization hold TOFEL test
in Taipei?  Also, if possible, you have the schedule and the fare for
TOFEL and GMAT test.  It would be very appreciated you could furnish these
information to me.  My address is yilin@mits.mdata.fi.

yilin
From: stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shuoh-Ren Tsai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:55:59 GMT
Organization: UB


 
I would like to add some more comments from another point of view.
If your girl friend/wife is not a virgin, will you trust her? Even she loves
you very much, do you think it is going to last forever?
Once love fades, don't you think she will try to find another fantasy ( sex )?
What kind of girl do you think she is?  Can you concentrate on your careers?
 
My point is the responsibility. If you want to have sex with each other, you
get to take the responsibility. Otherwise, it is not wise.
 
What do you think?
 

---   Shuoh-Ren Tsai                        stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu   
      Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng.   State Univ. of N.Y. at Buffalo
From: jwr7133@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.W. Rambeau)
Subject: Where is the GIF's of Taiwan?
Originator: jwr7133@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:27:53 GMT

Hello everyone!

      I would like to get some GIF's of Taipei or Tainan?  Also, I would
like GIF's of other part of Taiwan.  I believe Taiwan is beautiful place!

Your friendly user
Jeramey Rambeau
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Do you mind if your girlfriend is virgin or not
From: <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 00:27:07 EST
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.

Hello to everyone again,

I have got to explain why I asked: What would you think if you happen to
know that your mother was not virgin by the time she got married?
The reason: "talk is cheap" so by asking you this question, I was hoping

that you would feel the real problem. Your reaction to this question is closer
to what you really think of virginity.
The question contains two major factor of what really matters here. "The
respect" and "the love you feel" for your mother, would be similar to what
you feel about the one that you really love, thinking about your mother will
make you react spontaneously, the reaction I really want you to express.

Anthony.
From: stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shuoh-Ren Tsai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Date: 22 Nov 92 06:37:01 GMT
Organization: UB


 
Some of men whose wives/girl friends are virgins always try to suggest everyone
NOT to mind if your girl friend/wife is a NOT virgin.  The thing does not
happen to them.  Of course they don't care.  And they try to pretend to be a
nice man with open mind.
 
Would anyone whose girl friend/wife is not a virgin like to tell us how you
feel?  And what is your suggestion?  BTW, please be honest.
 
I know virginity is not that important now. But hey, this is
soc.culture.Taiwan, NOT soc.culture.America.
 

---   Shuoh-Ren Tsai                        stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu   
      Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng.   State Univ. of N.Y. at Buffalo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang)
Subject: Re: To all not virgin girls!!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:24:14 GMT

In article <92320.175810CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:

>Because, what's the difference between a not virgin girl and a hore?.
>
>            Any comments?????
>
>Anthony.

   Anyone who has such an idea in mind must be a SOB!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 18:10:26 CST
From: <U08405@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: TEST

This a test.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: Do you mind if your girlfriend is virgin or not
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:23:52 GMT

In article <92321.002707CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:
>Hello to everyone again,
>
>I have got to explain why I asked: What would you think if you happen to
>know that your mother was not virgin by the time she got married?
>The reason: "talk is cheap" so by asking you this question, I was hoping
>
>that you would feel the real problem. Your reaction to this question is closer
>to what you really think of virginity.
>The question contains two major factor of what really matters here. "The
>respect" and "the love you feel" for your mother, would be similar to what
>you feel about the one that you really love, thinking about your mother will
>make you react spontaneously, the reaction I really want you to express.
>
>Anthony.

why don't you answer your question first in the net to see if "the answer
is cheap too"?

cs shao.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: chyang@paronomasia.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:42:05 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@paronomasia.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Nov19.161549.19265@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
> In article <1992Nov16.221957.17836@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> chan@aloft.att.com writes:
> >Dear friends:
> >
> >The 55th anniversary of the Nanking Massacre is upcoming, and this
> >will be the third year the overseas Chinese in North and South America
> >have actively participated in the commemoration of this unforgettable
> >tragedy in modern history.
> >
> > .....
> >
> >In Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Professional Teachers' Union will urge the
> >Educational Department to revise the Chinese History curriculum for
> >the secondary school to emphasize more on the Sino-Japanese War, 
> >particularly the Nanking Massacre.  Similar lobbying plans have been
> >proposed in California.  We hope the same can be done elsewhere.
> >
> > .........
> >
> >Let's continue with our campaign this year and keep up with the good work!
> >
> >NYHKN
> >
> 
> It's useless to instigate the sentiments among Taiwanese, who largely
> were people colonized by the Japanese before 1946 and still endear the
> old days. Taiwanese is a special breed of the ethnic Chinese. People
> who are 50 years or older are influenced deeply by the Japanese culture;
> young people under 30 years are strongly influenced by Japanese pop culture.
> Japanese pop figures are idols among them.

	As far as the pop stars or stars in general goes, I tend to believe
that it goes both ways.  There are some Taiwanese as well as Hong Kong stars
that are making a name for themselves in Japan.  I read this in a magazine
somewhere.  They are mostly female stars however.  

	The Japanese are extemely fond of classical Chinese stories such as
San1 Kuo2 Yien3 Yii4, some Taiwanese cartoonist therefore were able to be
very popular there.  I can't think of this guys name.

	But I guess it is time for the Greater Chinese region to assert
her own cultural uniqueness.

- C. H. Yang

> 
> Today, once again Taiwan is colonized by Japanese culturally (even
> Hong Kong).
> 
> 
> -- 
> /* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
>  * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
> \* Ty Lee                                                                    */
From: lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu (david lu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Do you mind if *HE* is a virgin or not?
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:24:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

It seems only fair for us guys to ask the females reading
this newsgroup the parallel question stated above in the
subject line.  I have a feeling that Chinese girls would
prefer their partners to be virgins to a higher degree than
guys would.

Well, Christine excepted, of course. :)

And I would propose moving this thread to alt.sex, if only
there weren't so many political/historical posts in this
group!

			- David

-- 
---==lulu@ucrengr==---  just another overworked graduate student.
David T Lu, Amateur Thinker: lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu, {ucsd, uci}!ucrengr!lulu
"I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle."
					- Arthur Dent, Hitchhiker's
From: akula@ecst.csuchico.edu (Kuo Han Chang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Looking For Shiu3 Shuen4-Chiao2
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:43:53 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

Hi Everybody:

My friend and I have been looking desperately for this guy, Shiu3 Shuen4-Chiao2

// Shiu3, this word is composed of Yien2(speech) and Wu3 (afternoon)
// Shuen4, the name of an ancient king of China, Yao2 'Shuen4' Yu3 Tang1
// Chiao2, Hwa2 Chiao2 (overseas Chinese) 's Chiao2

He graduated from National Chen-Kung University in 1988 , and was supposed
to be studying computer science in NJIT now. If anybody knows where he are
,or where he has been, pls mail your replies to the following:

akula@cscihp.csuchico.edu, Kuo Han-Chang or
BA03531%BINGVAXA.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU , Chou Sho-Chian

Any help will be appriciated !

Kuo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ptyshih@watnow.uwaterloo.ca (Paul T.Y. Shih(Taku))
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:44:41 GMT

In article <By3ELC.Fry@acsu.buffalo.edu> stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shuoh-Ren Tsai) writes:
>
> 
>I would like to add some more comments from another point of view.
>If your girl friend/wife is not a virgin, will you trust her? Even she loves
>you very much, do you think it is going to last forever?
>Once love fades, don't you think she will try to find another fantasy ( sex )?
>What kind of girl do you think she is?  Can you concentrate on your careers?
> 

	I am totally confused here. Are you saying that one trust his/her
	girl/boyfriend if and only if his/her girl/boyfriend WAS virgin
	when they first met? If you get a girl/boyfriend who WAS a virgin
	when you first met her/him, your relationship would last forever;
	if not, sorry, it wouldn't? I am really sorry that you probably
	dont' know what love is then. There's this statistical report saying
	that MOST of the people break up with their "first love", only
	very few amount of people made it. I believe that among a lot of them
	who failed were really in love with each other at first and most
	of them were virgin when they first fall in love. There's definitely
	nothing to do between a healthy relationship and pre-met-each-other-
	virginity.

>My point is the responsibility. If you want to have sex with each other, you
>get to take the responsibility. Otherwise, it is not wise.
> 
> 
>
	What do you mean by responsibility here? Marrying someone? Unless
	you treat your the-other-half as your own sex-machine and that's
	it, you wouldn't draw the equal sign between responsibility and
	marriage. Having sex comes naturally with true love, but getting
	married needs a lot more than true love.


	Paul
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
From: <RTC105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:21:13 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov19.150436.6006@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
(yung-kao.hsu) says:

>        Well, as I understand, the possiblity of having AIDS thru
>        heterosexual relationship is very low (hence the rumor that
>        Magic Johnson is gay).

Just wanted to make sure that people are informed about AIDS,
possibility of getting AIDS thru heterosexual relationship is pretty
high nowadays.  Don't think just because one is a heterosexual, the
chances are low.  The chances are getting higher and higher each day...
Sad statistics, but that's the way it goes.

rtc105@psuvm.psu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: positron <achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: why_men_desire_virgins
Content-Type: text
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:10:54 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL0]
Content-Length: 822       

One reason why most "normal" men desire virgin girls may
be explained from an anthropological point of view.
You see, due to the presense of sexually transmitted
diseases (STDs), over millions of years, the men
who were indifferent to whether or not their sex
partners were virgins or not were selected out and
only those who had a desire for virgin girls were
left alive to pass their genes to the next generation.

The advent of antibiotics after the Second World War
led to an increase in the survivability in those men
who were indifferent to whether or not their sex
partners were virgins or not.  (This can be easily seen
by the numerous postings by men defending non virgin
girls on this newsgroup).  Fortunately AIDs will
take care of this problem and will eliminate these
"abnormal" men from the gene pool.
From: damon@tfs.com (Damon Liu)
Subject: -- Round-trip ticket back to TAIWAN --
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Distribution: USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:02:13 GMT

My friend is seeking a ticket back to TAIWAN in December.

I had checked several travel agencies. Unfortunately, I was told
that it had been fully booked.

Is there anyone who holds a ticket and might cancel her/his plan?

Please drop me an E-mail at the address below. Thank you.

Tentative schedule:

12/12: Pittsburgh, PA -> TAIWAN;
1/12: TAIWAN -> Pittsburgh, PA.

Damon Liu
damon@tfs.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: hsieh@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Chung-Ming Hsieh)
Subject: Access via email?
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:35:43 GMT

Hi netters,
Is it possible to access this group via email?  I am tired to wait for
the net I'm using to look through 3038 groups before I can start using
it.  Anyone has ideas?  Thanx.

Please reply to  hsieh@cvlab.harvard.edu

CM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,bc.general