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From: WAND_M@gold.colorado.edu
Subject: Boycott undeterred by ruling
Followup-To: amend2-discuss@cs.colorado.edu
Originator: doherty@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:40:59 GMT

The Denver Post
January 19, 1993

Some gay and lesbian groups around the nation briefly considered dropping their 
boycott of Colorado after a Denver District Court judge stayed Amendment 2 last 
week.

But they changed their minds when they learned that the state immediately will 
appeal the decision to the Colorado Supreme Court, said Boycott Colorado's 
Denver-based spokesman, Robert Briggs-Daniels.

He said he was in touch last weekend with Boycott Colorado affiliates in New 
York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, Seattle, Los Angeles and San Frnacisco.  
He also received reports from gay and lesbian groups in San Frncisco, New York 
and Rhode Island.

Representataives of some groups ssaid they thought about dropping the boycott 
until learning that a state appeal to the injunction would be filed today.

The injunction, granted late Friday by Denver District Judge Jeffrey Bayless, 
prevents Amendment 2 from taking effect until a lawsuit filed by opponents is 
heard--which could be months away.  Colorado voters passed the controversial 
amendment Nov. 3 by 54 percent to 46 percent.

The amendment was to overturn ordinances in Denver, Boulder and Aspen that 
protect gays from discrimination, and it would prevent passage of similar local 
or statewide laws.

Briggs-Daniels ssaid the Colorado organization never considered lifting its 
boycott.

"Judge Jeff Bayless' order was just a temporary stay.  We won't lift the 
boycott until the amendment is repealed by the voters or it is thrown out by 
the courts," he said.  "If Amendment 2 were repealed, it would send a message 
to the United States that Colorado voters have chosen to make the correct 
decision."

Colorado Solicitor General Tim Tymkovich said the standarad Bayless set in 
granting the injunction--requiring the state to show "a substantial and 
compelling "interest for Amendment 2 to exist instead of a "reasonable" 
interest--always is difficult for the government to show.

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From: WAND_M@gold.colorado.edu
Subject: More reactions
Followup-To: amend2-discuss@cs.colorado.edu
Originator: doherty@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:51:42 GMT

Gazette Telegraph, Colorado Springs
January 16, 1993

"I don't think the ruling on this injunction has any bearing on whether (the 
law) is unconstitutional or not.  A judge who doesn't rule something is a 
possibility is ruling himself out of a job."  Will Perkins, chairman of 
Colorado for Family Values.

"I think the judge said it very well.  This is a constitutinal democracy so the 
people's vote is very important, but it has to be in the context of the 
Constitution and that's what is being tested here."  Boulder Mahor Leslie 
Durgin, whose city has an ordinance protecting gays from discrimination.

"It's wonderful to be a lesbian today.  It's good to be a lesbian most of the 
time, but it's wonderful to have the support of the justice system.  I feel 
fantastic.  I think a lot of education--the truth--about gay and lesbian people 
took place as part of the hearing."  Pat Hewitt of Colorado Springs.


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From: Michael Doherty <doherty@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: As promised, state appeals ruling on '2'
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Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:13:09 GMT

Daily Camera                           reprinted without permission
Boulder, Colorado
01/20/93

As promised, state appeals ruling on '2'

By LINDA CORNETT
Camera Staff Writer

DENVER -- As promised, the Attorney General's Office on Tuesday asked
the Colorado Supreme Court to overturn a district court injunction
against Amendment 2.
     The injunction issued Friday by Denver District Judge Jeffery
Bayless was "extraordinary" and based on "novel legal theories,"
according to motions signed by Deputy Attorney General Paul Farley.
     The Attorney General's Office also has asked Bayless to grant a
"stay" of his own injunction, reminding Bayless that his injunction
prohibits the enforcement of a voter-approved amendment to the
Colorado constitution and that this is an issue on which there is no
specific legal precedent.
     Voters on Nov. 3 approved Amendment 2, which prohibits laws or
policies protecting homosexuals and bisexuals from discrimination
based on their sexual orientation.
     Opponents, including the cities of Boulder, Aspen and Denver,
filed suit in district court, charging that the amendment is
unconstitutional. They also asked the court for an injunction to
prevent the amendment from going into effect while the lengthy court
challenge is played out.
     Following a four-day hearing, Bayless did so, saying that he
believed there was a good chance the amendment will be overturned.
     Less than two hours later, Gov. Roy Romer and Attorney General
Gale Norton announced they would appeal the decision. Norton and
Romer were named in the lawsuit because they are charged with
enforcing the new law.
     The Attorney General's Office also has asked the Supreme Court
to hurry its ruling on the appeal. "This is an extraordinary step,
and directly implicates the right of the people of the state of
Colorado to self-government," the motion states.
     Bayless' decision on a stay is expected within a day or two. It
is unknown when the Supreme Court will take up the appeal, according
to a court clerk.


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From: WAND_M@gold.colorado.edu
Subject: Gay activist groups blast vandalism at cemetery
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Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:39:51 GMT

Gazette Telegraph, Colorado Springs
January 16, 1993

Associated Press

WHEAT RIDGE--Several gay activist organizations Friday denounced the vandalism 
of headstones and a statue at a Catholic cemetery by a suspected group that 
opposes the churc's stance on homosexuality.

About 300 headstones at Mount Olivet Cemetery were shrouded with plastic bags 
marked "AIDS" and dye was spattered on a statue of the crucifixion sometime 
early Thursday, police said.  The Jefferson County cemetery is owned by the 
Denver Catholic Archdiocese.

On Friday, 19 gay activist groups--including the Colorado Gay and Lesgian Task 
force, Direct Action and Colorado Legal Initiatives Project--issued a statement 
deploring the vandalism.

"The organized gay and lesbian community is outraged at the actions," the 
statement said.

The groups believe the action might have been prompted by passage of Amendment 
2, which would prohibit laws protecting gays from discrimination based on 
sexual orientation, and by the Catholic Church's stance against homosexuality.

"We do not condone the illegal and clandestine actions taken by unknown 
individuals who assault the physical property and spiritual values of our 
fellow citizens," the statement said.

Denver Catholic Archdiocese spokesman Tim McCutcheon said the vandalism was "a 
message of anger toward the church, perhaps toward the pope.

"It's a demonstration of hostility and contempt against the church, meant to 
disrupt and terrorize many of those who have loved ones buried at the 
cemetery," he said.

No group has claimed responsibility for the acts.  But an ananymous caller told 
the Rocky Mountain News on Thursday that he represented the "gay community", 
and the vandalism at Mount Olivet was connected to the Catholic Church's tand 
on homosexuality.

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From: WAND_M@gold.colorado.edu
Subject: Gazette Telegraph hotline
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:36:16 GMT

On January 16, 1993, the Gazette Telegraph published a hotline number, 
requesting that people call in their feelings about the decision on Amendment 
2.  Following is "a sampling of calls to the Gazette Telegraph hotline" 
published January 17, 1993.

"This decision gives the homosexual crowd a feeling of victory and normal 
people a sense of hopelessness.  Does my vote count for anything?...If the 
opponents of Amendment 2 get cocky at this decision and start throwing it in 
our faces...I think it could turn to strong feelings of frustration and 
possibly violence."  Chuck Holbrook.

"Judge Bayless' injunction keeps discrimination from being legal in Colorado. I 
hope that people now realize that they must stand up for civil rights of all 
persons...In the '50s and '60s, many people gave religious and moral reasons 
why blacks and whites should not live, study and work together.  Again, 
diversity and tolerance are America's strengths, but it takes work to overcome 
prejudice.  Lyn Akers.

"I have two children and I have always taught them that the most powerful thing 
you can do in this country is vote.  And now that seems to mean nothing...What 
do I tell them?  Do I tell them the system lied?"  Kay Craig.

"I feel comfortable in allowing our courts, through due process, to answer the 
constitutionality of the amendents and not the self-appointed spokespersons for 
Colorado for Family Values to do the interpreting for us."  Conrad Robran

"With the help of the liberal lapdog media, the homosexual activists have 
distorted Amendment 2 to fit their own agenda.  Thankfullendment will be upheld 
as constitutionally sound, which it is.  Diane Johnson.

"I believe the injunction is proper, and I've always believed Amendment 2 was 
unconstitutional.  I do not think God gave me the right to judge another, to 
impose my values upon them.  The amendment seems to be rooted in bigotry."  
Glenn Logan.

"I would be all for putting Amendment 2 on hold indefinitely if we could also 
do the same wiht the AIDS virus.  Let's face it: The bottom line is the health 
of every American, and until a cure is found for AIDS, we can ot condone a 
lifestyle that promotes it."  Tomy Romero

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From: eschwa@teal.csn.org (Emerson Schwartzkopf)
Subject: Re: Media coverage
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:11:27 GMT

I suppose this is as good a time as any for someone in the "media" (I'm a
free-lance writer) to jump in on this. I will agree that some hits are
usually well-founded on a lot of media coverage, but let's not go overboard.

The first thing to remember on television news is that a lot of what you
see depends on polls and consultants. The news mix (especially on larger
stations) isn't really what happened that day, but the best idea of what
will fit the audience's needs and desires; a kind of Top 40 programming.
If you want to see this at its worst, be sure to see WCCO in Minneapolis
sometime, which I would describe at times as "News for the Very Sensitive
Soul."

It's also hard to cover everything about an event. Believe me, it takes
plenty of work, and one of the requirements of being a member of the media
isn't a 100% drive to do everything all the time. There are times when you
pace yourself to get at the meat of something. I aggrevate some people
when they catch me at a meeting reading a book, but I'm not going to take
20 pages of notes on an archane parliamentary discussion over the wording
of the minutes (unless someone is trying to sweep something under the rug).

Let's face it; if you don't like the coverage, and you saw the thing for
yourself (or even participated), call the reporter and be civil. If that
doesn't work (as in getting the brush-off), go to the top and demand to
see and/or talk to the publisher or station manager. If you can document
your case, you'll at least get some attention and maybe a kick for better
coverage.

On the matter of identification, by the way, I do it all the time.
However, I try to stay away from some perjorative terms on both sides. I
might cite Perot as a billionaire (I like the guy, by the way) because he
makes a big deal about being a billionaire businessman. Doug Bruce might b
e cited as a landlord if I'm writing about amendment 1 and its effect on
real-estate taxes; otherwise, he's a businessman or (again, depending
on what he's doing) a tax protestor or a government reformer.

I ran into this a few days ago when covering a school-board meeting here
in Gunnison. Two people who spoke were attorneys, but the subject matter
had nothing to do with legal issues. So, I cited them in a way that shows
why they're interested in the business at hand; I referred to them as parents.

I know this will probably make people madder, but I wanted to get my shot
in, too. And, don't be too quick to pigeonhole all of us as flaming
liberals ... I'm a Republican precinct committeeperson.
-- 
Emerson Schwartzkopf       Gunnison, Colorado
eschwa@csn.org             A warm spot in a cold place

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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Colorado Ski Report, etc., etc., etc.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: co
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:53:41 GMT

In article <1jk5obINNd98@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com> marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com writes:
>To use yet another analogy, let's look at "freedom of speech" versus, say
>"freedom to wear green hats".  The former freedom is guaranteed by the
>constitution (by saying that no law can ever abridge it).  

No, sorry: The Constitution says "abridge" for a reason. The Constitution
does not (and, arguably _can_ not) grant rights. People's rights are
inherent, and aren't a gift from the government (or can the government
take them away.) The First Amendment _protects_ the freedom of 
speach and forbids the government from violating that right.

>...The latter is simply
>an accident of the implementation - no one has yet passed a law against
>wearing of green hats.  I would argue then that there is a fundamental
>difference between these freedoms.

Take a look at the Ninth Amendment:
"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Simply because the Constitution doesn't mention my right to wear a
green hat, doesn't make it a lesser right (i.e. doesn't "disparage"
that right.) At the same time, the Constitution offers less of a 
protection for that right...

>Similarly, the mere absence of a nondiscrimination law (as with the absence of
>green hat laws) strikes me as fundametally different from constitutionally
>dictating that no such laws can be passed (as with free speech).

Well, since I disagree with your analogy, the "similarly" brakes down...
You seem, however, to be thinking of a constitution as a permenant 
and unchanging document. If this were the case, I'd agree with you.
However, I think it's just a shorter set of more basic laws (like the
laws about making statutory laws), with a different (slightly more
difficult) way to make new constitutional laws

                                                Frank Crary
                                                CU Boulder
Newsgroups: sura.techs
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:12:00 EST
From: Scott Stursa <STURSA@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: MICROCOM routers
To: techs@sura.net
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Does anyone have any experience with MICROCOM routers?  Good, bad, 
indifferent?
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:03:22 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: MBJ-TAU T1 maintenance ...



01/22/93	The T1 line connecting the MBJ Pop (Mobile Junction, AL) to
11:00		the TAU Pop (Tallahassee, FL) is backup and stable. The CSU
		swap has been completed.




 ---<} Tracy Lee Bowers {>---
       tbowers@sura.net
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:38:11 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: MBJ-TAU T1 maintenance ...


01/22/93	The T1 line connecting the MBJ Pop (Mobile Junction, AL) to
10:30		the TAU Pop (Tallahassee, FL) will be taken down for a CSU
		SWAP.  No outages are expected.  Routing normally traversing
		this backbone circuit will be routed via ATU-JKV.

 
 ---<} Tracy Lee Bowers {>---
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:37:01 -0500
From: Jeffrey Pufahl <jmp@noc.ans.net>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 01/26/93 ENSS 143  Univ of Wash Unreachable via T3 15:00 - ??:?? EST


01/26/93 ENSS 143  Univ of Wash Unreachable via T3 15:00 - ??:?? EST
Due to circuit problems.

ENSS143 is currently reachable via its T1 backup connection.

Jeff Pufahl
ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:21:55 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: MCI Network outage ...


01/21/93	T1 BIR-JCK down
10:20		There is currently an MCI network circuit problem affecting
		SURAnet's T1 backbone between the BIR (MCI Birmingham, AL Pop)
		and JCK (MCI Jackson, MS Pop).  Routing is successfully 
		traversing around this T1 via BIR-MBJ-NEO-JCK.  There are
		currently no SURAnet site outages off the JCK Pop; however,
		the following sites off the NEO MCI Pop are unreachable due
		to this MCI outage:

		LATECH - Louisiana Tech University
		NLU    - Northeast Louisiana University

		MCI has no current estimated time of repair.

		 
		
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 23:34:28 -0500
From: Ramin Farahi-far <ramin@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: Reminder -- WTN Scheduled maintenance
Forwarding: Mail from 'Ramin Farahi-far <ramin@sura.net>'
      dated: Sat, 23 Jan 93 21:59:31 -0500


Once again this is a reminder of the following message:
 
-> 01/25/93	Two Cisco routers at the WTN (Washington MCI Pop) WTN1 and
-> 		WTN4 will be taken down for maintenance starting at 05:00
-> 		hours on January 25, 1993.  The schedule:
-> 
-> 	WTN1:
-> 		05:00 - 05:30 	Upgrade CSC3 to CSC4
-> 
-> 	Affected Sites:
-> 
-> 		EPFL - Enoch Pratt Free Library
-> 		NIST - National Institute of Standards and Technology
-> 		NSBE - National Society of Black Engineers
-> 		LOC  - Library of Congress
-> 		OCSS - National Library of Medicine
-> 		IDA  - Institute for Defense Analysis
-> 		SMTH - Smithsonian Institution
-> 		AMU  - American University
-> 		NCI  - National Cancer Institute
-> 		HOOD - Hood College
-> 		IBM  - International Business Machines, Corp.
-> 		TJHS - Thomas Jefferson High School
-> 		
-> 	WTN4:
-> 		05:30 - 06:00  Cisco MCI board swap
-> 	
-> 	Affected Sites:
-> 	
-> 		OSI - Department of Energy
-> 		OSA - Optical Society of America
-> 


Ramin Farahi-far
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Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 10:57:41 -0500
From: Lilly Wang <lilly@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: UNF up



1/23/93			UNF
10:45			University of North Florida is back on line again.


Lilly Wang
SURAnet Operations
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Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 08:53:07 -0500
From: Lilly Wang <lilly@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: WSRC down



1/23/93			WSRC
8:40 - ?		 Westinghouse/Savannah River Company is currently down
			due to unknown problems.  The problem is being currently
			investigated.  No estimated up time is known.  No other
			sites are affected by this outage.


Lilly Wang
SURAnet Operations
(301)982-3214
Email: lilly@sura.net