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From: mece21x@elroy.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Sexual seggregation in Kerala
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:50 CST
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In article <199301120026.AA02157@mp.cs.niu.edu>, t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes...
> 
> 
>Yesudas Michael likhonti:
>Bijoy Sagar ezhuthi:
> 
>My question and Yesudasda's Bengali ramblings deleted.
> 
>Ki dada? Bengali parayan ariyumo? Bhalo lagchi:-) Nyanum Malayali
>aanu at least partly:-) I guess now we have enough people here to
>start a new newsgroup soc.culture.malayalee.bengalee:-) Ki bolish?
>( aar naekamai korish na:-))!! Incidentally are there any more closet
>Bengalis here? I mean kurachu bengali kurachu malayalee types?

Actually true. There are some people who would like to see a soc.culture.
malayalee.bengalee. I know some people who subscribe to this net, who would
join the band wagon.

Nilanjan Patri, Naveen Bodhi Mondol, Shyam V. Potti, Archana Nair, Swarup 
Acharya, Geeta Menon, and so on...

> 
>Bijoy
> 

I am serious...

> 
Sincerely
Michael
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:52:22 EST
From: L. VISWANATH <LXV3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: keep up the good work

Hello.
I am a new member of our group and was really pleased to
read through some of the articles.  I am also a subscriber
to india-d and was quite disgusted by most of the
articles posted in it and the quality of discussions.
this really speaks a great deal about ourselves.
keep up the good work.
I am from trivandrum (pattom) and had lived 22 years in tvm.
model school, arts college, university college, kariyavattom campus
etc.  currently i am at penn state harrisburg, director of computer
and information systems.  most of my friends are in india.  married,
with two boys.  if anybody needs anything please ask.  is there somebody
here (in US) that i do not know of?
looking forward to have some ebb friends.
viswanath
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Sexual seggregation in Kerala
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:26:52 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Yesudas Michael likhonti:
Bijoy Sagar ezhuthi:

My question and Yesudasda's Bengali ramblings deleted.

Ki dada? Bengali parayan ariyumo? Bhalo lagchi:-) Nyanum Malayali
aanu at least partly:-) I guess now we have enough people here to
start a new newsgroup soc.culture.malayalee.bengalee:-) Ki bolish?
( aar naekamai korish na:-))!! Incidentally are there any more closet
Bengalis here? I mean kurachu bengali kurachu malayalee types?

Bijoy

Ps: Just jesting
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Bijoy Sagar............ was here :-)
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: ah173@yfn.ysu.edu (Koshy George)
Subject: Re: Malayali humour/comic strips.
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:16:59 GMT



Hi Guys,

	I am Koshy George, a grad student at Computer Science,
UMASS, AMHERST. I am from Kottarakara.

Here are some jokes from  the Bobanum Molliyum series in Malayala
Manorama, that I can remember of. I was a great fan of this 
comic strip. Hope you would enjoy them.

(1) About polical rallies
------------------------------
"Vettimurickum! Kutthimalathum!"
"Mandaa Thendeii Markoseae"

People standing in a lorry are shouting these kinds of slogans
. One guy among them is saying,
"Hey dudes, these are the kind of slogans we have to shout
for tomorrow's rally. This is a rally organized by Markose."

(2) About pot holes  on the road
--------------------------------
Scene : A road full of dirt and pot holes. One umbrella is
seen floating in the muddy water in one of the pot holes.
Boban/Molly : "Dende oru kuda kidakkunnu."
Reply from the umbrella: "Kudackakatthu aalundae"

(3) About some trade union strike organized by UDF
when it was in the opposition.
---------------------------------------------------
Karunakaran, the then opposition leader is crying  
hysterically and saying:
"Paavappetta thozhilalikalude kaariyam orthente 
	chanku pottunnu"

(4) About a  visit by the Indian President to Kerala
----------------------------------------------------
Panchayathu President, Chettan is all dressed up for
calling on the Indian President. He says as a reason.
"Randum Presidantallae"

(5) About the inefficiency of KSRTC repair depots
-------------------------------------------------
One student is studying for the exam in (or near) a 
repair depot. On asking why he has come, he says:
"Ivideyakumbam behalam onnum illa, Swasthamayi irunnu
padhickam."

(6) About a strike organized by students
-----------------------------------------
The reason for the strike is 
"Thalasthaanatthu oru vidyaarthi nethavinte thalayil
kakka thooriyennu."

(7) About a major bus accident
-------------------------------
Two private buses were racing through the road in a
"maranappachil". One of the buses has encountered a
major accident killing seveal. Deadbodies are kept
in the mortuary.  One guy is caught checking the pockets
of the deadbodies. He says:
"One of the passengers has not taken ticket. I am the conductor."






	I have not followed the tranliteration scheme. Next
time I may do it. Sorry for now.

				-Koshy George
				george@pogo.cs.umass.edu

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: aknair@eng.auburn.edu (Ajit K. Nair)
Subject: Re: MONISHA UNNI's DEMISE
Reply-To: aknair@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:58:38 GMT



>Does anyone out there know if this is the same Monisha Unni who was a
>bharatnatyam dancer and had her schooling at Bishop Cotton's Girls'
>High School in Bangalore?  If so, please let me know.  Thanks.

As far as I know she is the same Monisha.

Ajit Nair
From: mece21x@elroy.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Info on Rain Forests in Kerala/India ..
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:42 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <C0E8FK.4Jy@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, kseethar@cs.ulowell.edu (Krishnan Seetharaman) writes...
>Hi Folks:
>forests in that area; also where to stay, what to see, etc.  Also is driving 
>down from Bombay a good idea?

Plan your trip very well for the night halts. Else there will be lot of trouble.
Pray that your car is in good shape. 

Sincerely
Michael

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: two questions ?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:23:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.224949.23942@leland.Stanford.EDU> kochumol@leland.Stanford.EDU (anna geevarghese) writes:

>1. Why is 'Sabarimala Ayappan' who is supposed to be
>	Subramanian, son of lord Shiva, on a leopard 
>	rather than on a peacock, which is supposed to
>	be his mode of transportation ?
>
>(Pls correct me if I am wrong )

Subramanian & Ayyappan are not the same. The former is a child of Shiva &
Parvathi, while the latter was born to Shiva & Vishnu (who turned himself
into a woman for the purpose...so the story goes). Also, Ayyappan rides
a tiger & not a leopard. Apparently his mother on earth (Queen of Pandalam)
was ill & only the milk from a tigress could cure her. And so her son
fetched it for her after subjugating the tigers in the jungle.

>2. Is Parvathi, wife of Lord Shiva, also known as Jamuna ?

I really doubt it, though I am not sure. I know that Shiva has Ganga
(the river) trapped in the hair on his head. And since Yamuna (aka Jamuna)
is a distributary of Ganga.... If she indeed is known as Jamuna, I am sure
that there's a story behind it (which I am not familiar with) & would
relish hearing it from someone.

Mahesh.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: molly@uga.edu ()
Subject: Re: Sexual seggregation in Kerala
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:38:19 GMT

In article <199301120026.AA02157@mp.cs.niu.edu> t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:
>
>
>Yesudas Michael likhonti:
>Bijoy Sagar ezhuthi:
>
>My question and Yesudasda's Bengali ramblings deleted.
>
>Ki dada? Bengali parayan ariyumo? Bhalo lagchi:-) Nyanum Malayali
>aanu at least partly:-) I guess now we have enough people here to
>start a new newsgroup soc.culture.malayalee.bengalee:-) Ki bolish?
>( aar naekamai korish na:-))!! Incidentally are there any more closet
>Bengalis here? I mean kurachu bengali kurachu malayalee types?
>
>Bijoy
>
>Ps: Just jesting
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>Bijoy Sagar............ was here :-)
>A good .sig under construction.
>Allow 3 weeks for delivery.
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>

I married to a Bengali.  so, I am a "kuracchu bengali & kurachu malayalee type".

Molly
From: rinamdar@eng.auburn.edu (Rohit Dattatray Inamdar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Forests correction
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:37:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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The tropic of capricon passes through the central India




Tropic of Cancer passes through India 

I apologise for the mistake
Rohit
From: mece21x@elroy.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: HWhat is Religious Propaganda
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:55 CST
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In article <1993Jan11.211954.4067@fuug.fi>, an4179@anon.penet.fi writes...
>The recent vote is an excercise in futility.

Or was it exorcise?
Taking out some evil (anonymous) spirit...

>Last months USENET stats show that the readership
>of this group is 13,000 worldwide.  Only 33 people
>an insignifican minority responded to the survey, indicating
>that the survey was a non-issue to most of the readers of ack.
> 

You still talk majority-minority! That will probably never get out of your
brains.


>What consititutes religious propaganda?  While separatist
>feeling based on religious is taking roots in Kerala,

We did not know it for such a long time. How kind of you!

>(as indicated by previously posted articles), it is 
>how is one to distinguish between religious propaganda
>and awareness?
> 
>Thanks to 12977 people who did not respond to this survey
> 

They care two hoots for your great cause.....
(Also Mr.Anonymous, 13000 - 33 = 12967. This fact of life is not anonymous,
If you have ever seen the door of a school)

> 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
>Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
>and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.

Don't sell the second biggest con of the century. The first one has been your
propaganda!! 

Sincerely
Michael

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: rinamdar@eng.auburn.edu (Rohit Dattatray Inamdar)
Subject: Re: forests correction
Reply-To: rinamdar@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:30:32 GMT

The tropic of capricon passes through the central India


Tropic of cancer passes through India
I apologise for the mistake
Rohit
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: cs911093@ariel.yorku.ca (SHANTY KOKKAT)
Subject: Cinema Patt
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:08:39 GMT


This is a recent song I like:

movie : Aparatha

background:  Innocent and kalpana were in love.  Kalpana's father
	     don't like this relationship.  Kalpana  and Jaghathi 
             got married.  Innocent got a job as a police officer
             in the same town where Kalpana live, he took a house
             close  to kalpana's  house. One  night Innocent sang
             this song: I did my best to write this song in
             english-malayalam.

..................................................................
Karthavurthezhunetta rathriyil 
karallil mothathin veenjozhuhum rathriyil
kurbana kazhinjapol kurizin thodiyil vachen
krithyam njan panayam vachu, ente krithyam njan panayam vachu

Kunnum kullum pattannathil peru ketta pappy makale (2),
mariyamme, ninne snekichu, ente krithayam njan panayam vachu

karthavu.....

nallu kassilathonai, nattukare ezhuthithally
nadayil ninnu enne thuppy, nintappan thunddan pappy
kuttukarillothonai, veettil njanippezharai
mudangathe katthu vannu, nee mathram kude ninnu
muttathu varki sarrin, novalile nayikayayi mariyole.....
muttathu varki sarrin, novalile nayikayayi mariyole,
suriyani kristhianni penne, ente krithyam njan panayam vachu

karthavu....

st.judin karunnithal thalayilee  thoppy kayari
trainningam kadaba thandi thengi thengi nattilethy
kurisinte thanallil, kutta botham mizhineerai
mattoral kettiya thally faramay maril vinnu..
M.D than novalile nayikayai mariyole ..........
M.D. than novalile nayikayai mariyole, 
suriyani kristianni penne, ente krithyam njan panayam vachu

P.S.  Here is the challenge, any one want to write parady
      for this song.

enjoy................................


shanty kokkat
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From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Tamilnadu.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:07:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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narayana@oracorp.com (K.T. Narayana) writes:

> ............ There is an edict of emperor Ashoka that he
> brought righteousness to the Pandya, Chera, and Chola
> country.

As far as I understand, the influence of Ashoka was limited upto
the present day TN which excludes Cheranadu which is Kerala. And
while the cannibalism may have been popular ( many southern Indian
temples still practice animal sacrifices and such pagan rituals
unknown to the mainstream Hinduism) in Chola and Pandya areas,
there are no referances to such in the Chera country. Perhaps one
reason that affected the development of Chera region faster than
the other regions is its proximity to ancient ship routes and the
interaction it brought about with other cultures. I find it difficult
to believe that Fahian and Huang shang who visited Mussiriss, the
port-capital of Chera dynasty would not comment on such paganistic
rituals. So, at least in the Chera region, the practice can be safely
assumed to be out of vogue at least by 8 A.D.

- Bijoy
From: aknair@eng.auburn.edu (Ajit K. Nair)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Rain forests
Date: 6 Jan 1993 15:41:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Could someone give info regarding the following.

1] What are the different types of forests?
2] What are the characteristics of Rain forests?
3] In Kerala, what types of forests do we come across?

Ajit Nair
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: rtt1@cec2.wustl.edu (Rajan T Thampi)
Subject: Re: MONISHA UNNI's DEMISE
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:24:50 GMT

In article <01GT47FTNV4Y0002S0@blrv1.verifone.com> RENJIT DARWIN <RENJIT_D1@blrv1.verifone.com> writes:
>All,
>I hope everyone on board had heard of Malayalam actress and Urvashi award
>winner Monisha's sudden demise...! In case anyone missed it, here is the
>news..
>Monisha (she won the urvashi award for her performance in
>'NAKHASHATHANGAL') was killed at Cherthalla (Alleppy Dist) when the car
>she was travelling skidded off the road bounced over the road divider and
>crashed into a speeding Bus! She was on the way from Trivandrum to Cochin.
>Her mother, who was travelling with her escaped hurt, but the car driver
>died on the spot! Monisha died on reaching the local hospital. (This
>accident happened sometime in the first week of December.)
>Any way...Malayalam film feild has lost a wonderful young performer...!
>MAY HER SOUL REST IN PEACE....!
>
>Renjit


	Does anyone out there know if this is the same Monisha Unni who was a
	bharatnatyam dancer and had her schooling at Bishop Cotton's Girls'
	High School in Bangalore?  If so, please let me know.  Thanks.

-- 
Rajan T Thampi                                | Internet: rtt1@cec1.wustl.edu 
Lycoming College (Physics), Williamsport, PA. |           rajan@maria.wustl.edu 
Washington University in St. Louis (EE).      |           raj@optima.wustl.edu 
Progress is an illusion - Donald E. Simanek   |           raj@aat1.wustl.edu
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From: mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: When should I go back to Kerala/India?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:40:32 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA



Coming for higher studies was easy.

Almost all of us come for higher studies in some subject. But by 
the time we complete our studies and get job we are not in a mood to go
back to Kerala or India. Or we are not in a position to go back
happily. What are the reasons behind this inablility to go back to
India or Kerala? This is a question generally everyone faces at this
this point in life. 


Firstly, the comfortable life in US as it is supposed to be. What 
are the various ways we enjoy life here? The reasons for comfort in US
are surprisingly very simple. Uninterrupted power supply, numerous TV
channels to kill time, supposedly better food items and a conglomerate
euphoria resulting from these! Are these the only things which bind us
here?.

There are practical problems though most of the people desire to go
back. What are they? How can we solve those problems? How can we plan
ahead to alleviate the pains of going back from US?


What are the facotors that bound one to US. I think there are many of
them. 

The intellectually stimulating atmosphere. The company of people of the
same standard of living as you are.

The euphoria while you live in US. The thought that the people back
in kerala are not enjoying life.

And the most important: The financial comfort of working in US. The
availability and ability to provide high quality education to your kids
while you are in the US. This fact compounded with the unemployment
problems back home constitutes the major obstruction in a decision to go
back.

How can we plan our life in the US so that after enjoying US for a
reasonable amount of time we will be in a position to go back? 
In other words how long do we have to stay in US so that we do not 
get attached to the living style and culture and do not forget 
about the culture we left behind?

Supposing a student is about 25 when he starts his graduate study I think ten
years is a maximum one should think of living in the US. I think that is
a good span to enjoy US and at the same time you will be free to leave.
What are the precautions to be taken? 

Keep in touch with people back home. Appreciate and be proud of the life
at home with its inherent drawbacks.

Think of US as not a place to earn money. Try to be detached and
enjoy.

If you are married (ultimately everyone gets married while in US), 
decide to have kids only after going back. That decision will also help
you to think of going.



Mathew
-- 


Xref: sparky alt.culture.kerala:1183 soc.culture.indian:42874
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Re: YES PROP?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:11:08 GMT

In article <9301050635.AA25142@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU> jv4s@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Jayanand Vasudevan) writes:
>
>	I voted YES PROP.  I'm not sure about running a poll with a loaded  
>question like "Do you want religious propoganda on the group a.c.k?" is valid.

1] While you are welcome to vote yes if you feel like, its not very good form to   explain why you voted no or yes *before* the results are out. 
   Ballots are usually secret.

2] This question "Do you want religious propaganda on the group a.c.k." is not a   loaded question, because it is not a given that "bad" postings are not 
   allowed. This is what is being decided here, whether we are to allow postings
   we know to be bad, to appear. A loaded question is one whose answer is known
   in advance. 

3]  Why not just hit the 'n' key, seems to be the easy way out.
    Perfectly sensible. Except taking a look at sci will tell you 
    whats wrong. The appearance of a bad article not only offends but
    very quickly brings down the level of discussion.

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: pillai@seas.smu.edu (Krishnakumar B. Pillai)
Subject: Humor!
Summary: Attitude..
Organization: Church of Reason - Dallas
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:14:52 GMT

	The Bobenum/Molyium jokes were just great, made enjoyable reading! I
wish to thank all those who posted them. It is a pity Malayala Manorama couldn'tget along with Toms.

Here is a small piece of humor from O.V. Vijayan (I call it Aqueous Humor, with
due respect to all medicos!) that I'd like to share with you. This joke really
hits the Malayalee attitude right on the funny bone--

The scene opens with Lord Vishnu making plans for checking out the material
world, to find out how his creations are doing! So he gets dressed for the
occassion, complete with the Shankhu (Conch), Padmam (Lotus), Gadha (Mace) and
the Chakram (Disk), a sight designed to impress any mere mortal! He picks an
isolated spot on earth and materializes right next to a malayalee.  The 
Malayalee is sitting on the edge of a culvert enjoying his Malayala Manorama
and a breakfast Beedi, when the Lord God appears before him. 

The Malayalee looks up from his Newspaper, grunts a "Huh" and turns to the
"KamboLa Nilavaaram" section! The Lord, quite taken aback, decides to introduce
himself. 
Lord God goes up to the guy, and says -"Ente kayyil Shank unduh!"

Malayalee- " Ngah!" 
He squints at the Newspaper and pulls at his beedi!

Lord Vishnu undaunted, says "Ente kayyil Padmam unduh!"

Malayalee- "Pinneh!". Still doesn't look up, blows circles of smoke and goes
on reading!

Lord Vishnu, on the verge of losing his composure, blurts out- "Ente kayyil
Gadha unduh!"

The Malayalee, still unimpressed, turns the pages of his Newspaper - "Hmmm!"

Exasperated, the Lord God yells out- "Eabhya! Ente kayyil *Chakram* unduh!"

The Malayalee, jumps up, drops his Newspaper, walks over to Lord Vishnu, puts
his hand around god's shoulders and grins-
"Maasherae, adutha Chaaya kadaeiloattuh  chennu samsaarikkyam!".

---------------
P.S Please forgive me if I have broken the phonetic English code for Malayalam.
I had to supply some of the words used in this article as I couldn't recall the
exact text written by Shri. O.V. Vijayan. Forgive me if you feel that I killed
the joke!
---------------
Kris. Pillai
Dallas, Texas.
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I seldom read my mail. It helps me avoid the guilt of not replying!
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