HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley)
Subject: Cable: Where he came from....
Keywords: cable
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 06:14:34 GMT

OK. Me and Jean didn't want to tell the world just yet,
but......I'm pregnant with Cable.

{scene: some exotic hideaway, away from Scott}

starring
  Michael TeeVee (note set-up name for punchline)
  Jean Grey (as a redhead)

Me:  Jean, I think I'm pregnant
Jean: Are you sure it's yours ??
Me:  ...(pause)... Yes
Jean: Ohmigosh!!
Me: ..and I think I'll call the baby....CABLE...
Jean: (thinks) {what a great idea..Cable Teevee}


Apologies to PAD for flogging off his joke

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chengster    chengm@sun.mech.uq.oz.au

'I could never be a woman, I'd just stay at home
 all day and play with my breasts.'  Steve Martin
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From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Lebeau (Gambit)
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:27:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <9210072109.AA12976@PCS.CNU.EDU> rglass@pcs.cnu.edu (Randall Glass) writes:
>
> 1: dump Rogue!  These two would never make a good couple.
>    He's too untamed for her... She's just a girl.

Hey! Maybe he and Bishop can have a relationship!  He isn't tame and 
he isn't a girl!  They can put aside their differences and kiss and make
up!  
>    
[deleted stuff]
>    Anyway, i'd like to see the series deal with Gambit's life
>    PRIOR to the x-men.... in other words--> let's see him
>    thieving and fighting, a Sabretooth appearance? sounds 
>    good to me!
>
Good idea!  Lets see some history!  What is the dark secret of Remy's
Clan that he didn't want the Brood to tell anyone? 
> 4: bring back 'Bella Donna'.  i know of course that she's not
>    really dead-->maybe she's trapped on the astral plane.
>    and if she is brought back, i wouldn't want her together
>    with Gambit (with the x-men).  she seems much too strong
>    a lady to be hanging out with bunch of funky costumed
>    blue/gold mutants.

Right again!  I don't think she was introduced just to be killed...why tell
us that he wasn't a mutant without telling where she got those powers in the
first place?  There is another story there...
But if she did come back, I hope she wouldn't join any of the X-Teams..but
would make appearences now and then.  Maybe their should be a "Gulf Coast 
Avengers" that she can be a part of...with Capt. Marvel as leader..based
of course in New Orleans! :) :)
> 
> 5: bring back "Callisto", i would have liked to have seen

[some deleted]  

Oh! you wanted Gambit and Callisto  together...still, he and Bishop would
have made a nice couple...Callisto should have stayed with Moira and none
of that stupid stuff with her would have never happened.  What a waste of
a good character.
[more deleted]

>randall glass
>rglass@pcs.cnu.edu





Patrick
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:59:30 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Oct14.105610.59696@cc.usu.edu>, sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>>Personally, I liked this part (you might remember I'm the one who
>>>nuked Canada in alt.comics.LNH and generally has it in for Canada) 
>>>:+).
>> You NUKED CANADA????? Watch it my friend. We may only have 25 million people 
 
> yaaay!  Nukem!  Nukeem  all!

Actually, it was a reality wave that kind of "erased" Canada.  Dr.
Deranged is up there trying to help them rebuild right now.  Besides,
I was only interested in getting one or two or the people... A bit
drastic, maybe, but readers of the LNH know I don't believe in doing
anything halfway!
 
> wReam...
> Ultimate Ninja of LNH
 
> P.S.  I really should be doing my homework!
 
                                         -Drizzt
 (Me, too.) 
-- 
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Western Kentucky University    And the bank shall repossess it." 
BarneJD@WKUVX1.BITNET                    -Sawyer Brown
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From: mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Uncanny #295
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:00:29 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

It's time once again to get back to business on the net.  (Has anyone
noticed how unruly it gets when there's no current new issue to talk
about?)

Here's my two cents on Uncanny 285


The part with Jubillee at the beginning was really kind of nice.  She's
a great source of comic relief, along with Guido.  I can just picture
her making jokes about Shatterstar's mother.  I kind of wish they would
have printed it....

What is the deal with the way they are handling Apocalypse?  I'm tired
of the way writers just keep adding on more and more to a character. (Be
it powers, weaknesses, whatever.)  I just would like some continuity. 
Has anyone ever heard of these safehouses before?  I might just be
forgetful...

Okay, how can anyone deny that Stryfe, at least, is Nathan Summers? 
That scene with Jean all but proves it.  His references to a baby being
taken from security and poked and terrified by machines has got to be a
reference to Nathan's capture and subsequent torture by Apocalypse. 
Also, when she asked "Why have you done this to me?" he says, "I was
about to ask the same of you."  A little bit bitter, eh?  He must blame
X-Factor for his past.  Who else could he blame?  They were supposed to
have been protecting him!

I don't like the way Alex suddenly has become so headstrong.  Do you
remember the Alex from Uncanny a few years ago?  He was a whole lot
weaker as a personality.  I admit I've been a less-than-avid reader of
X-Factor recently (sorry PAD),so I might not know just what he's been
through, but this is such a switch!  It seems to have happened too
quickly.

I can't believe that Wolverine and Bishop practically invaded Canada. 
With Val's position in the government, I find it hard to believe that
the only way to retrieve those records was to storm the place.  (I know,
I know, how else could they be expected to meet up with Cable?)

How could Apocalypse trash the X-Men so easily?  A few pages earlier, he
was supposedly feeling pretty awful (physically).

Was Psylocke planning to kill Professor X, or somehow help him?  The way
she was scripted, it's awful ambiguous.  WHo knows?

I realize that the X-Cutioners Song still has another issue of Uncanny
in it, but does anyone have any clue what the power-that-be have in mind
for the big upcoming issue?  (It'll be issue 300 in March.)

Overall, I thought that the issue was better than past months.  The art
was passable, if inconsistent.  A few panels even looked like Art Adams!
I'd like to hear everyone else's opinions.

Mike
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:09:52 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Bw4rLJ.5D7@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>The awe-inspiring Obscure Trivia Lad notes:
>>Anyway, no, Corsair cannot generate bolts of energy.  The hero you are
>>thinking of El Aguila, from Power Man and Iron Fist.  He's a mutant
>>with ability to generate electrical energy, but can only project it
>>through metal objects he's in contact with.  He normally uses his
>>sword to do this (so that people think it's the sword that's
>>firing the energy), but he also once used it with a grappling hook.
>>
>>Obscure Trivia Lad, can't think of anything in this post for David
>>R. Henry to correct him on, although David will probably think of
>>something.
>
>First off, you can drop the R. in friendly company, son. I won't mind.

Thanks.

>Second off, maybe I can't find anything to correct you on, but then again,
>maybe I can. I've always thought that the Eagle could zap people in
>skin-to-skin contact with him, but that metal made for a better conductor,
>and thus more damage. In this, though, as in much of life, I could be wrong.

Hmm... Obscure Trivia Lad doesn't recall El Aguila (Obscure Trivia Lad
thinks that the Spanish form has more style than "the Eagle."  Makes
him sound more like the swashbuckler he seems to be trying to be)
ever projecting energy by skin-to-skin contact, but then again, I
think we all know by now that Obscure Trivia Lad's memory resembles
Swiss cheese even more than Dr. Sam Beckett's.  Obscure Trivia Lad
will have to check El Aguila's entry in OHOTMUDE over the weekend,
if anyone out there really cares.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:18:04 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct14.160439.59710@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> Gee, Obscure Trivia Lad gets to correct someone once more!  And, once
>> again, Obscure Trivia Lad is SURE that Obscure Trivia Lad is right
>> this time!
>> 
>> Department K is new.  Department *H* isn't.  You're confusing the
>> two here.
>
>Shut-up!  You're supposed to be DEAD!  >:P  =PHBTHTBTTT!!

Yeah, but Obscure Trivia Lad and Magneto were having such a lively
discussion on your post in the afterlife, that Obscure Trivia Lad
felt like posting from beyond the grave.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero)
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:21:55 GMT

stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad) writes:

>|> 3.  Get rid of Gambit.

>  At the risk of being labelled a 'fanboy', I think Gambit has some
>potential as a character when written well.  It gets a little boring
>when you're sure everyone is a good guy.

	True, but when the same "I'm so bad I'm good" routine comes around for
the umpteenth million time it gets boring too.  I would like to like Gambit,
but it would take a fair amount of *GOOD* writing to make him a real character.
The lame-o Ghost Rider Cajun Louuuziana adventure just wasn't good enough.

>|> 4. <Stuff Deleted>
>|> Magneto becomes field leader for X-Men.
>|>

>  I think this idea has a lot of potential.  Unfortunately, any return
>of Magneto would just contribute to Marvel's growing problem with the
>"Revolving Door of Death".

	C'Mon...does anyone *really* beleive that Maggie is dead?  (Put your
hand down Mr. Forbush!)  The thing is to bring him back in a way befitting his
stature, and not just saying "We escaped".  I liked the _idea_ of him having
his acolytes up there in Asteroid M, but if all they did was fight rather than
try and build a Utopia, then forget it.
-- 
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From: zeus@watserv.ucr.edu (Zeus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Jae Lee
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:39:46 GMT

Marlene S Prokop writes
-->
-->	Just thought I'd give my $0.02 on Jae Lee's art in the
-->X-Factor...I don't read Namor, but as I was reading X-Factor, I
-->got the distinct opinion that somewhere along the way,
-->everyone got attacked by famine.
-->
-->	IMHO that was some nasty art!
-->
-->Marlene

Well, in general I agree with ya - but the kid has some shining moments - not  
only that but he's only 19.  So I guess there is room for improvement.

Personally, I would like to hear what some of the Namor fans think of him.   
Also wouldn't he be better off doing some title such as Sandman or Doom  
Patrol....

Just a thought.

chris
Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:08:54 -0400 
From: Chris Holly <maverick+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: X-Judas/PAD ?'s
	<1992Oct15.190235.3284@news.columbia.edu>

>From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
.
.
lines deleted
.
.

>I think we got our first conformation that the 2099 timeline is the same
>one as Bishop's.  I wonder if we're going to see much of the XES in it?
>(Bishop, I believe, was an XES cop.  I'm not sure what XES stands for,
>though.)

It was XSE, for Xavier School Enforcers.

        -The real Maverick (not the guy from WOLVERINE)

                -Chris Holly(maverick+@CMU.EDU)
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Who's the best leader?
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:44:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <04OCT92.19253965.0040@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> P0G3@UNB.CA (CCGG) writes:
>In article <8encsQG00aw_896ERg@andrew.cmu.edu> Dizzy Murphy <dm7z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Ok guys,
>>  since we're all into the x-men (whichever book that might be) let's do
>>a little survey.
>>
>>1)Who is the best leader of the x-men? (Cyclops, Storm, Cable, Havok, or
>>Captain Britain)
>>2) Which is the best team? (Blue team, Gold team, X-Force, X-Factor, X-Calibur)
>>

The best leader is Cable CABLE **CABLE**!!!!!!!  (Yeah, I like Cable.  So sue 
me. :>)
The best team?  That's a little harder to say...  Blue team has its moments, 
but Gold team is full of angst-ridden wusses right now!  Factor is funny, 
Force is forceful, and Excalibur is so... British?  Anyway, my vote for best
team goes to X-Force.  Why?  Because they dare to be different.  Because they
have finally learned teamwork.  Because they have grown up.  Because they're 
not afraid to kick butt.

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"Why are you mumbling?"
"Because I've grown fangs, and if I open my mouth too wide you'll see them."
		--Spider-Man 2099 #2
Organization: Freshman, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:13:43 -0400 
From: Steven Kelly Woyicki <sw3r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Uncanny X-Men 295

David Miller@ritvax.isc. writes:

>technology could not remove the technovirus.  We also have a theory that
>Professor X will become Cable's computer (the Professor) after the virus
>mutates him, but Cable's computer is probably Ship from X-Factor.  Just
>some marsupials for the wrench.

Professor X can't be his computer because Cable is surprised to learn of
the assasination attempt and even says "That never happened!"  Therefore:

-"the Professor" can't be Xavier because Cable would know about the
assasination
-Stryfe must be a future Cable because he's changing the past.  The shot
at Chuck was never recorded in the history books Cable read because
Stryfe is changing them.

I do agree with some others who've mentioned that the technovirus as a
means of assasination was pretty dumb.  Maybe Stryfe has "other" motives
for using it.  (i.e. to anger the X-men while Xavier lingers and lead
them into some sort of complicated trap using a cure as the bait!)
Furthermore, having Bishop and Wolvie go to Canada to use Department K's
resources to track down Cable was also stupid.  How would they know that
Weapon Prime had just gone after Cable?  Why not go to SHIELD instead? 
That's where Logan has always gone before.  (i.e. see WOLVERINE)

Anyway, I'm really wondering what Sinister's part in this game is.  Why
would Stryfe go thru him to get Scott and Jean?  So as not to attract
attention to himself?  And why would Sinister use the Horsemen?  Didn't
he reveal that he'd used them?  If he's trying to blame Apocalypse, why
reveal himself?  It looks like there must have been some elaborate
planning between Sinister and Stryfe to blame everything on Apocalypse. 
And why does Sinister want Stryfe to fail?  And how does Stryfe plan to
bring about "the end of tomorrow" by involving Scott and Jean and not
just destroying Apocalypse?
From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Fallen Angels
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:19:46 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <BvrwHv.EHs@ansoft.com> louis@grandis.Berkeley.EDU (Louis Reash) writes:
>From: louis@grandis.Berkeley.EDU (Louis Reash)
>Subject: Re: Fallen Angels
>Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:44:18 GMT
>In article <910252m.10.718466327@ace.acadiau.ca>, 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca
>(DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON) writes:
>!>     < stuff deleted >
>|>     Finally, there was Chance, an urchin with seemingly no powers.
>|> 
>
>     Actually, Chance (acording to the Marvel Superhero RPG Handbook)
>has the ability to 
>increase or decrease the power of a mutant.  
>
>Louis Reash      'It's deja vu all over again' - Unknown
>louis@ansoft.com 'The brighter the picture, the darker the negative' 
>                   - Batman the Animated Series 'Two-Face'
>Disclaimer: My boss doesn't listen to what I say, why should you?

Geeze!  Read the rest of the letter before you respond next time!  Geeze!

KID ANARKY
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Keywords: Rogue Ms. Marvel X-men powers
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:06:27 GMT

I'm totally confused as to why everyone's so excited about getting
Rogue's mutant power wet.
-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:57:31 EDT
From: <SMB147@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.xbooks.
 <Bvu715.9tD@acsu.buffalo.edu> <Mepn1lK00awK0=eWYI@andrew.cmu.edu>

What about Bishop 2099?  After finding the X-judas, he returns to his own
time. And we can have Peter David and John Ostrander write it.  (what's
one more book?)
R I K
From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:47:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <BvqK1v.5B1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Gad) writes:
>
>Ummm... I don't recall SINISTER caring all that much one way or another, but 
>MALICE was thrilled about it.  (I assume you're talking about that bit where
>Polaris/Malice is flying away from Alcatraz, and she's daring Alex to blow 
>her from the sky, And then goes away laughing when the bolt bounces off her 
>shields?  The bit that ends with "...what matters is, you tried!" and Alex
>kneeling in the dirt crying?)  I'm pretty sure that Mr. Sinister didn't express
>any opinion of the event on-camera, but I could be wrong.  I thought that was
>entirely MALICE'S doing.  If this is the wrong event that I'm thinking about, 
>then could you perhaps provide a couple morre details of what YOU were thinking
>about?
>


Guys and Gals,

Have you ever noticed when a "hero" becomes a villian he/she can use his/her
powers in ways he/she never did before or they get a power boost?  Examples
here are Polaris when possessed by Malice, Invisible Woman when she is 
Malice (not the same one...but it would be interesting to find out that
there is a link) and Scarlet Witch (but I think the AWC said that was some
tampering with her powers...but *still*! she turned bad and had the ability
to do some serious controlling of probability...this was during the Acts of
Vengence storyline...with the "evil" magneto.)

When Villians turn to good, they lose power or have more vulnabilities:
Rogue (once power worked on everyone, now there are exceptions, and her
invulnability doesn't seem to be what it use to be...she is constantly being
blown out of the sky...but then you can say it was the greater momentum of
the heaver object.  To give some credit, when Gambit charged her pie,
it didn't hurt her when she got hit with it.
Magneto:  Joins the X-Men and can't take out a few Sentinals by himself...
actually gets mind-control by empath (Prof X could never do that to him...
Look at the NM books right when the NM join the Hellions...after the Secret 
Wars II storyline)

Even Gambit...when it wasn't sure if he was good or bad, he was a little
more resourceful..now that he is one of the good guys, he just doesn't have
that same charm.  That is, he seem to have less power now than he did when
he first appeared. (He was "Mr. Persuasion, now he is "Mr I'm-just-a-cajun-
who-has-a-deck-of-cards-and-have-the-hots-for-rogue."


Patrick
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Storm's New Power?
From: Chris Holly <maverick+@CMU.EDU>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:52:29 -0400 
Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 9-Oct-92 Re: Storm's New
Power? Adam W. Jones@uhura.cc.r (1339)

> 	I would like to know if Storm is still undetectable by mechanical
> means, as Wolvie, Colossus, Havoc, Rogue, Psyloche, Longshot, and Dazzler
> became as a result of dying at the end of "The Fall of the Mutants" series.
> 	I would be interesting if that were a detriment. "Uh-oh, Wolverines
> unconscious in the cavern, if we can't find him in time, he'll die.  Hey,
> we'll just use the tracker here.  Uh-oh, it's not picking up anything.  He
> must be in another cavern."  And so the plot thickens.
> 	 			    The Dark Ghost has spoken...

	I had been wondering about this myself.  I believe that somehow the
spell must have worn off.  Havok has appeared on Television several
times since he became leader of X-factor.  Shiva can now detect
Wolverine.  Dazzler, Longshot and the current X-men were all able to be
detected by Mojo and Mojo II's sensors and television cameras(and Mojo
technology was not immune,  remember: when the spell was cast Psylocke's
eye cameras stopped relaying information to Mojo, if the spell has been
broken then they probally relay that info once more).  Cerebro can now
detect the Australia  X-men, where before it could not.  And during the
Infinty Gauntlet and war, and at several other junctures the X-men have
been using Video-Communication units that are not part of the
Australian/Reaver equipment(the only equipment that was supposed to be
able to detect the X-men. 
	Roma cast the spell to hide the "dead" X-men from the world.  It is
qutie possible that since the X-men dropped the facade of being dead the
spell was broken.  This is only a roughly drawn theory, I'm open to
suggestions.


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