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From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: UNI's dome
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:32:50 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

> 
> In article <1992Oct7.101522.7371@iscsvax.uni.edu> phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>I march with the UNI band here and most of the time we battle time problems
>>from the horrible echo in there. 
> 
> Excuse me, but why does the University of Nothern Iowa have a domed
> stadium?  I mean, I can only think of one school that uses a
> domed stadium (Minnesota) and that's not even theirs.
> 
> Scott
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Our dome is part of the physical education system here....it is also our
basketball stadium, and our track. (the turf unzips and rolls up) I think it's
kind of silly, also, but the thing has been here since 1974 and I beleive UNI
has totally paid it off and makes mucho profit from renting to football teams
(the high school playoffs for example) and to various conventions that travel
through.  Btw, we finally replaced the ORIGINAL turf (yuck!) this year. My feet
are happy (as must be our #1 ranked team!!!!) We were certainly thankful for a
roof last night! 

There's no place like dome!
Brooke
Mello
Colts '89-93
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: Guess that lick! (was Re: Percussion notation system)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:28:16 GMT

bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) writes:

>(Tasty lick deleted)
>You've got me on the first one, Bob. 

The last few bars of 27th's 1984 show.  One of the most incredible
endings I've ever heard.  (Used to be *the* most incredible ending, but
then Cavies beat the heck out of their drums this year.)

>>and here's another one from that same year ...
>>
>>|5 >  >   >   >   >>   >>   | >  >   >   >   -3- > |
>>|4 .::. ::.: :.:: ..:: ..:: | .::. ::.: :.:: ... ^ |
>>   ff                                        RRR L

>HMM...definately 27th Lancers. My guess is 1982. Am I close?

Very.  Same year and corps as the first one.  This time it was in their
concert piece before the last hit.

I'll try to post a few more this weekend if I get a chance.

Later,
Bob

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From: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: hi
Reply-To: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:20:17 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F)
Subject: Re: Guess that lick! (was Re: Percussion notation system)
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:42:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.212816.25594@hubcap.clemson.edu> rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) writes:

>>HMM...definately 27th Lancers. My guess is 1982. Am I close?
>
>Very.  Same year and corps as the first one.  This time it was in their
>concert piece before the last hit.
>
>I'll try to post a few more this weekend if I get a chance.

While you're conjuring, here's another 27th lick to sink your teeth into...

 >         > > >   >     > >       >         >         >       >     >
 -3- -3- -3- -3- | -3- -3- ---6--- ---6--- | ---6--- ---6--- ---6--- ---6--- | 
 ._, ._, ._, ._, | ._, ._, .:: .__ .:: .__ | ... .._ ._. ... ._. ... ... .._ | 
 R R R R R L R L   R R R L RLR L   RLR L     RLR RL  R L RLL R L RLL RLR RL

  >        >              >
| ---6--- ---6--- ---6--- ---6--- |     (followed by an equally incredible
| ... ... ... ... ... ... .__ ___ |      quad feature).
  RLR RLL RLR RLL RLR LRL R
            cresc >>>>>>>>>

(It's obviously written in 12/8, but I thought the groupings might help make
it more readable.) Any guesses as to the year? HINT: They had a totally great
line that year, but still ended up 6th or 7th in drums.

--Brad.

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From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Subject: two-seven
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:22:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.201330.19464@medtron.medtronic.com> cc0001@medtronic.COM (Christopher Carriero) writes:
>>When I started to get involved again, I noticed the absence of the 27th
>>Lancers.  I never got the full story as to what ever happened to them.
>
>Two-seven last put out a drum corps in 1985. After being as high as 2nd,
>they drifted down through the pack in the 80s. They wound up in 13th place
>in both 1984 and 1985.

BZZZZZT.  wrong.  Two-seven last fielded a corps in 1986.  They placed
13th in 1985 and 1986.  They were 11th in 1984.  Lots of people think
that 1985 was the last year they fielded a corps because that was the
last year they played Danny Boy!

Scott

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: hi
Reply-To: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:36:21 GMT

hello, This is st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu  I just got logged into this syst
em so please excuse my mistakes.
I am a member of the Buccaneers Drum & Bugle Corps, I play mellophone.
I am looking for other people who are in corps to talk about their experiences.
I am at Brandeis University, so it would be nice if there is someone in the Boston area.
I am thinking of joining the Crusaders next year(94),would anyone recommend this?
Also, the corps I really want to join is Santa Clara, but I would settle for another closer to home.
 What corps would you recommend?
And how did you, can I afford it?
Thanks, contact st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
From: MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Who's not going to go to Jackson?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:13:11 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <1992Oct6.201715.3476@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu
(Jeffrey V. Butera) says:
>
>Well, the first reference was correct.  The Falcons are playing this
>year in a brand new stadium (opened in August).  It is the Georgia
>Dome (Yes, there's a roof).  Perhaps this might not be good for
>acoustics.  But the stadium is really nice otherwise.  Who knows,
>maybe trppaing the sound in would produce a neat effect (sort of
>like corps playing against the backside of Arrowhead, because it's
>in the round...)
 
I can tell you with 100% confidence that a domed stadium is disastrous
for drum corps.  Montreal's Olympic Stadium was horrible, and it wasn't
even completely enclosed at the time.  Every November, the Bands of America
Nationals are held in the Hoosier Dome in Indianapolis, and if you get above
the 20th row in the lower deck, you can't hear anything.  Hoosier Dome has
roughly a 4 second reverberation time.....no thanks!!
 
Mike Hughes
From: dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Jackson weather (was Who's not going to Jackson)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:17:48 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:

> >The report I get is that the volcano ash that is in the air and causing this
> >cold weather will be there for the next 4 years. It might be pretty darn
> >decent in Jackson.
> 
> The volcanos have been doing their thing for a while.  How warm/cold was The
> South this summer? (Willard?)

Well, I felt that it was indeed unusually cool this year.  However, "humidity"
during certain months was extremely high -- 100%, that is.  Yes, it rained
a bunch in July and August.

But, who knows what's in store for '94?  Lemme at my crystal ball...

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From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Finals Sites
Date: 13 Oct 1992 15:13:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Oct12.164634.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> streuer_d@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.173525.19721@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu
>(Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>
>I'd say that Preview of Champions they hold in the southern part of the 
>country (Nashville?) has a pretty impressive list of participants, better than
>DATR and you get at least more than ONE show.  I love drum corps but I'm not
>about to drive to California to see other shows!
>
First, POC had all of the 'big names' since it is a ~required show.  Second,
in the SE, we only get 1 show in the state of Georgia (just before DCI South)
and maybe a handfull within drivings range, driving range just about ending
at Nashville last year since everyone was there.  It all depends on where
Finals are going to be held.  In '88 we spent a long time in the Midwest since
that was where Finals where.
--David



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Subject: RE: Goodbye Ted Swaldo
From: byork@desire.wright.edu
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:01:42 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

I do not to see it posted in this newsgroup, but I received an email letter
on the subject of Ted Swaldo's ( director of the Bluecoats ) retirement which
was supposedly from this newsgroup. Well I have several comments to make on
this subject.
    1) I was a member of the Bluecoats in 1989,and 1990. AND I have also kept
in close contact with some of the members and some of the instructors.
Therefore I am somewhat of an authority.
    2) It was mentioned that Ted's replacement was not known yet. Well during
the summer ( I was in the Madison Scouts ), I was informed by the Bluecoats'
members and a big wheel in the DCUK( here to observe USA corps) that the 
new director would be Bill Hamilton. This is not a fact, but rather reliable
 sources state this as being the case. Bill was a member of the Bluecoats 
back in the 70's. He has also been the head horn instructor since 1984. 
No one else has had so much time with the Bluecoats. I do not question this
choice because I feel that Bill is very competent, but many members of the
Bluecoats ( alumni included) seem dissappointed by this promotion. My theory is
that during the Bluecoats prime ( 1987-1991 ), Bill ( a junior high school band
director) was looked upon increasingly as not knowing enough about brass by
rather cocky members of the horn line each year as the talent level of the horn
line increased. Bill got that horn line into the top-6 in 1989. The bad
attitude peaked the next two years; the horn line got 7th in '90, and dropped
again in '91. Decide for yourselves.
    3) Larry Hershman, the Bluecoats program director 86ish-1991, was given
credit for getting to Bluecoats into the top-12. Ted Swaldo gave him an award
at the 1990 banquet for doing so. Larry WAS an awesome man who retired after
the 1991 season.
    4) Ted Swaldo only directed the corps from an organizational aspect. That
was one of the problems that kept the Bluecoats competitively limited.
Some years complete mistakes were made with respect to some of the staff hired,
even though Larry made most of the decisions regarding the hiring of new staff.
    5) Ted was indeed a great director, but he was limited to being a
business-man.
    Now onto another subject regarding the Bluecoats. Explain to me why they
thought that butchering Beatles' tunes would be a great idea. The joke on the
street is that it was their 25th anniversary and they wanted to do a crappy 
sho like they used to do normally. I hope not. I have some good points
regarding this , but I'd rather have some input regarding this topic.

                        Byork
   
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From: pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt)
Subject: 1989 Audio Tapes for Sale
Organization: StorageTek, Louisville, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:56:32 GMT

For Sale: A complete 4-volume set of Audio Tapes for the 1989 DCI
Championshiops. This is the year that the Vanguard made a record-setting
championship performance with "The Phantom of the Opera."

The tapes include the top 24 open-class performers of the year. Tapes are
unopened an in their original packaging.

Why am I selling: I am addicted to CDs. These came with an ordering mix-up
with DCI and I never did anything with them.

These tapes sell for $40 new. If you want them, hurry and call before they
become a collector's item!

--phil
From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:MY DRUM CORPS THING
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:30:37 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct16.015504.7719@iscsvax.uni.edu>, young7905@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> DEAR WHOEVER, 
>      WHOA, HOLD ON. I TAKE IT BACK. I WAS TIRED. JUST PLEAS LEAVE ME ALONE
> FINALLY. I'LL EVEN GO TO A SHOW IF YOU WANT, JUST PLEASE NO MORE MAIL.
>     
> SORRY.

*Chuckle* Congratulations, team...we smashed him! If he bothers to show up to
class today, I let you know how foolish he looks!

Also...there's lots of posts asking where I am.....AFTER I had posted....could
people please look before they leap? (Sorry...pet peeve)

Anyway, he apologized, so it's over, and little discussion about it needs to
happen on this group....if you would like to discuss Jeff with me personally,
please send me mail...I can deal with anything.

Brooke Phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Colts '89-93
Mellophone
From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Who's not going to go to Jackson?
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:21:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <aiF5RB3w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>>I'm not attending partially because of Jackson's weather and partially to
>>alert DCI that their grand experiment with the championshiop city rotation
>>has some serious flaws.
>> 
>>Are there others who go to championships annually who will be skipping
>>Jackson? Does anyone know where the all-top-25 show will be held 3 weeks
>>before Nationals?
>
>I'm sure there are other bigoted, self-centered persons such as yourself
>who will be skipping Jackson.  I'm NOT one of those.  Take your "alert"
>to the proper channel.. mail, call, and otherwise harrass DCI.

No. The decision has been made to have Nationals in Jackson. It would be
a huge mistake to change sites now. Indeed, the "proper" way to express
my dissatisfaction is to vote with my wallet and vacation elsewhere.

>I'm tired of this thread on why drum corps should be exorcised from the
>South, just because some "panty-waists" can't stand a little perspiration.

What Championships have you gone to, Willard? Did you go to Miami? Were you
impressed with the average of 3-4 kids in the Class A corps that had to
be carried off the field at the end of their shows? Did you like the
micro-hurricanes that blew through most every day?

In football, the College Bowls are held in warm-weather sites. Why? Do you
think a Bowl would go over well in Camp Randall in Madison or Buffalo's
Stadium? Would people spend their money in January for a nice cold-weather
vacation? I think not.

>I shall be there, in Jackson, with my ears tied on.  I will enjoy the show,
>despite distractions that are 100% sure to happen.  I just don't happen to be
>H.R. Perot, so I'm sorry to say that I can't buy a stadium and the show so
>that I could be alone on the 50-yard line... so I'll have to put up with the
>inevitable crowd noise, crowd movement, parking hassles, high ticket
>prices...

You don't have *anything* to complain about -- imagine the poor folks who
find their seat near you. Now *they* would have a problem! ;-)

All seriousness aside, I bet all fans have a love/hate relationship with
the Nationals crowd. Sometimes, they are the worst fans anywhere. On the
other hand, you would never, ever get the levels of performance that we see
if somebody did buy out concert side. Nothing beats a spontaneous Standing
Ovation with 30,000 people. Do you remember Scouts in 1989 at the end of
Make His Praise Glorious? What a momemt!

>Maybe I'll just not go, and say that it's because of all those.  Do you
>think I'd be missed?  Hardly.

Please tell us what championships you've been to in the last 15 years,
Willard. IYHO, which sites were completely unworkable for DCI?

>dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)

--phil
From: SFINE00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Fineman, Stephen Elliot)
Subject: Re: Who's not going to go to Jackson?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:44:40 GMT

In article <92281.114432MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
<MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
 
>An alternative to Buffalo might be Giants Studium at the Meadowlands, NYC.
 
First of all, the Meadowlands is in New Jersey.  It's located at Exit 16E of
the New Jersey Turnpike and has a big picture of New Jersey on the 50.  The
only New York football team is the Buffalo Bills.
 
But the acoustics at Giants Stadium are horrible.
 
                                 -Steve
                                   Bones '92 ('93, '94?)
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Drum Solo Solutions
Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:54:41 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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In article <4090@cvbnetPrime.COM>, jdonsbac@cvbnet.prime.com
(Jeff Donsbach) wrote (Re:Drum solo solutions):
 
|>In article <16406494@um.cc.umich.edu>, R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes: 
|>> In a recent message, mhughes@miamiu.bitnet (Mike Hughes), posted a
|>> 3/4 section of the 1979 North Star drum solo "Cookout".  I marched
|>> to that solo and don't remember any 3/4 section.  What part of the
|>> solo was it?  If you have videotapes, what were the horns doing?
|>> The only section I can think you were writing about was when the horns
|>>were halted and doing hand flag work and that was either syncopated
|>> 4/4 or 3/8.
|>> 
|>> If you have the transcription, please send it to me (R.Vincent.Lamb@
 
|>Or, if someone could send it to me again (along with the transcription key;
|>I didn't save it either since I didn't think it was "finalized"), I can
|>ask a friend of mine, Steve "Stein" Cavanaugh, about it. He marched in the
|>NorthStar snare line in '79.....
|> 
|>-Jeff
 
Hey, Jeff, nice to know another "Child of Sanchez" is hooked up, even
indirectly, to the net.  I vaguely remember Stein, but I'm sure he
remembers me better.  Ask him about Vince (a.k.a. "Anaheim"), the
first true import to join North Star.  If he doesn't remember,
tell him I played euphonium and wore a Panama hat to rehearsal. 
He should have *lots* of stories.  Tell him hello from me and
ask him how the North Star Reunion went last year.
Mike, you sent me a message saying that you posted on the newsgroup.
I haven't seen it and neither have the rest of these people (or
they wouldn't keep asking).  Check to see if it got on.  If yes
tell us the article number.  If not, then please repost.
 
As you can tell, I can now read the newsgroup (and am I damned glad!).
 
Vince
 
P. S. "Child of Sanchez" refers to the 1979 opener.  The people who
marched in 1977 and 1978 were "Sir Dukers".
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From: sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker)
Subject: Re: Who's not going to go to Jackson?
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 02:31:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.234443.1@vax1.umkc.edu> eputnam@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>Championship caliber stadiums.  The Atlanta Falcons are playing in a new
>stadium I believe; assuming that it has real seats with armrests, I would think

Ummmm, besides, the new Georgia Dome (which I previously suggested 
as a venue for DCI Championshipss) is as the name implies a covered
stadium.

and we ALL know how horrible that is.

Scott


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From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: BANDS: (Re: BOA)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:05:05 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <92285.235853KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu> KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu (K-JAMZ) writes:
>Anybody out there follow MBA or BOA competitions. Being an ex-MBA marcher and
>national participant I have a huge interest in it and would love to chat
>about anything! Especially the years that I was in the shows( The last three)
>And anything else to do with the High School aspect!
>
>
>                                                    -K-Jamz

Yes,
I follow BOA although not too closely lately.  My hs band (Wadsworth Ohio)
went to Grand Nationals two or three times but the last few years hasn't
made the cut.  But my wife's HS band is:

drumroll please....

Marian Catholic HS, IL

Who is probably the winninest band in BOA history.  In fact, Marian did
Barbar's School for Scandal LAST YEAR and Star is doing for 1993.  Who says that
drumcorps are more innovative than marching bands?  :-)

BTW, until we get rec.arts.marching.misc up and running for discussion of
marching bands, I think it is perfectly alright to discuss them here.  What
I suggest is to add the word BAND to the Subject line so that folks who
don't want to read band discussion can skip over these.

K-Jamz,  which band did you march in?  Any other BOA folks out there?



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From: wills@mik.uky.edu (will s young)
Subject: Looking for information, or a person to email with
Keywords: Starting in Marching Band
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: wills
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:53:36 GMT

	Hello there,

	Well, this is my first post on here so I'm going to make this
probably short and simple or so, I'm not really shure about how to ask this
or so, but, here it goes.  Well, lets say that I'm rather new to this
field, but to music, I'm not.  Currently I can play flute you could say,
but I also want to learn tuba, and would like to get involved in a marching
band or so in school.  Going to be relocating to another college or so soon
and was woundering if there was anyone out there would be willing to talk
to me about a few things or so dealing with the marching band experience.
Would also like to know if people doubble on other instruments or so while
they are in marching band, etc.  Guess I'd like to talk to someone who is
involved currently in school with marching band (or Drum Corps, but since
those are bugles I'm not shure what is the similar version compared to a
tuba), and wouldn't mind just getting any info or responses and what a
person should do.  To any who reply, Thanks in advance.  8*)

Sincerely,

Will Young

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