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From: Arthur@cswamp.apana.org.au (Arthur Marsh)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Distribution: world
Subject: Upgrading AARNet - Dentrassi questions
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:55:58 +1000

On Mon 07 Dec at 00:42 Matthew Hannigan wrote:

 MH> @Message-ID: <1992Dec7.004248.12893@ucc.su.OZ.AU>

 MH> Outside 'academia' I don't think anyone cares much about the
internet.

Really? Or am I just in the nether world on the fringe of
academia?

 MH> Electronic communication is not `meant' to become anything.
It it does come 
 MH> become easier/cheaper/less expensive however, that is A Good
Thing.
 MH> The short answer is, (of course) if you think would be
easy/cheap, try it 
 MH> yourself.  (No `challenge' or insult meant here)

Have you compared the tariffs for international voice calls which
use 64 kbps PCM versus ISDN Basic Rate which uses 64 kbps digital
bandwidth? It only becomes more economical to use ISDN in
preference to a modem over dial-up lines when transferring about
300 kilobytes or more data per call. An ISDN B channel provides
about 5 times the throughput of a modem call, but for about 1.5
times the call setup cost (taking into account modem negotiation)
and 3 times the per minute cost of using a modem on a dial-up
line. The technology exists to make more efficient use of
bandwidth with lower volume international data transfer (such as
when "doing it yourself"), but it is not priced competitively.

 MH> I think this discussion has been done to death a few times 
 MH> in this news group.  Maybe you could have a look at the
 MH>  archives.

 MH> Also, maybe you're confusing internet with usenet/alternet.

International digital bandwidth seems to be significantly cheaper
if purchased in bulk. Who besides AARNET would qualify for decent
prices on international digital services and provide some of the
bandwidth to others for carrying usenet type traffic?

Arthur.

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From: mmann@alsvid.nr.une.edu.au (Mike Mann)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: email address for U. of Washington, Seattle, School of Bus. Admin.n
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:48:19 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

Does anybody have the address for the University of Washington at Seattle's
Graduate School of Business Administration's Office of Admissions or just the
Business School?  If so please send it to mmann@alsvid.une.edu.au.  Many
thanks.

-- 
Mike Mann  Internet:  mmann@alsvid.une.edu.au   Phone:  +61 66 203847
    University of New England, Northern Rivers (Lismore) NSW Australia
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.general,aus.mail,aus.news
From: andrewh@cs.monash.edu.au (Andrew Herbert)
Subject: Re: PAX - Adelaide Public Access Unix - now online
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:11:47 GMT

rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten) writes:

[re public-access unix systems]

>And what's available in Melbourne?

Two (the only two?) are:

    werple	888 1726 (V.32bis)

    zikzak	562 8814 (V.22bis)
		562 8813 (V.32bis)

login as the user "register" and follow the dots.

These machines are on a five-machine local internet (linked using SLIP
over modems), part of the Australian Public Access Network Association's
(APANA) national SLIP/UUCP network of machines [mail info@apana.org.au for
more information on this non-profit organisation (including how to join :-)].

They receive a full news feed and have fast SMTP-transported mail through
APANA's full-time connection to the Victorian SLIP server.

Andrew Herbert
president, APANA	andrew@apana.org.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: post
From: sandarss@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au (George Nicolaou)
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:43:52 GMT

-- 
George Nicolaou
dark_side@insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.netstatus
From: rossc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Ross Cartlidge)
Subject: Sydney Uni Downtime
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:38:25 GMT

Due to the installation of a Emergency Power Supply
at the Head-End of our Broadband cabling the internal
Sydney Uni Network will be down between 5pm and 6pm
on Monday the 14th of December.

It will affect all interbuilding networking at Sydney University.
It will not affect the operation of the NSW Regional Hub.

rosssc

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From: daemon@jatz.aarnet.edu.au ()
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Leading Edge link up
Date: 20 Dec 1992 23:01:54 GMT
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet)
Reply-To: GREG CHENHALL <U8551044@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.4

Hello,
the link from Melbourne Uni to Leading Edge was approximately
down and up as follows:

                Down:   20-DEC-1992 20:12
                Up:     21-DEC-1992 09:46 

The interface (ethernet 2) on the le.gw.au had
shutdown during an electrical storm. This interface is connected
by microwave to vic2.gw.au

Seasons greetings!

Greg Chenhall

Information Technology Services, Thomas Cherry Building,
The University of Melbourne, Parkville, Victoria 3052 Australia
Phone:    +61 3 344 7888                Fax:   +61 3 347 4803
Internet: G.Chenhall@its.unimelb.EDU.AU
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From: leanne@DIALix.oz.au (Leanne Archer)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.acs,aus.archives,aus.auug,aus.comms,aus.computers,aus.computers.amiga,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.forsale,aus.general,aus.mac,aus.mail,aus.news,aus.radio.packet,aus.wanted
Subject: Re: PAX - Adelaide Public Access Unix - now online
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:10:09 +0800
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.dialix.oz.au
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 #1

In <168BFCC4B.A8637710@tscc.macarthur.uws.edu.au> l.gudiksen@uws.edu.au writes:

>>     ------------------------------------------------------
>>      PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide, South Australia)
>>     ------------------------------------------------------
>>PAX is now available.
>What's available in Sydney and surrounds?????
> 
>Lars

  Hi Lars! :)

     Check out DIALix at Sydney. The modem number is (02) 948-6918

     Subscription fee is $80.00 a year plus 1 cent a minute user time.

     Login in as "visitor".

     Email jeff@DIALix.oz.au for more details.

                                       - Leanne

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From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: e-mail to Aust Bureau of Stats
Date: 11 Dec 1992 03:00:24 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.4
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Sue Brown (sbrown@pietro.ua.oz.au) wrote:
: I have a friend who recently started work at the Australian
: Bureau of Statistics in Hobart.  I have her username, and was
: wondering if it was possible to e-mail her ?  Any hints on
: the format of the address ?

The ABS do have Telecom Keylink access so I would suggest that
you get your friend to send you mail using the Keylink address

(C:au, A:telememo, P:oz.au, "RFC-822":"<sbrown(a)pietro.ua.oz.au>")

You *should* then get a return address to which you can just reply.

--
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Network Co-ordinator                      phone: +61 6 249 3542
Australian Academic Research Network      fax:   +61 6 249 1369
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Australian National University            post: GPO Box 1142     
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From: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.acs,aus.archives,aus.auug,aus.comms,aus.computers,aus.computers.amiga,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.forsale,aus.general,aus.mac,aus.mail,aus.news,aus.radio.packet,aus.wanted
Subject: Re: PAX - Adelaide Public Access Unix - now online
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:06:57 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Originator: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU

l.gudiksen@uws.edu.au writes:

>>     ------------------------------------------------------
>>      PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide, South Australia)
>>     ------------------------------------------------------
>>PAX is now available.
>What's available in Sydney and surrounds?????
> 
>Lars
And what's available in Melbourne?

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 \_.-.*/ <-- Melbourne, Australia.
      v      email: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: NBL : NEWS.... TRADES/TEAMS ETC
Date: 17 Dec 1992 02:00:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

1. greg fox (bris) to play for gold coast 1993
2. shane froling (hob) to brisbane 1993
3. peter hill (sydney) to gold coast
4. neil turner (newc) to townsville (or g,c,?)
5. justin withers (ill) to canberra
6. greg hubbard (ill) to sydney
7. bruce palmer (coach - nmelb) to brisbane as coach
8. doug overton (ill) to NBA starting five of the washington bullets
9. pete hansen (perth) to ? SBL or maybe NBL
10.murray arnold (coach - perth) to administration with perth
11 alan black (coach - southwest slammers wa sbl) to illawarra hawks
12 dave lindstrom (coach - illawarra ) to ????????
13 phil smyth (canberra) to adelaide 
14 barry barners (canberra coach) to coach australian team as well
15 gordie mcleod (asst boach bris) to coach in AIS/youth austn team
16 Rimas Kurtinitis (Hagen, Germany) to Townsville Suns
17 tiny pinder (perth wildcats start of 1992) to JAIL !!
18 mark bragg new coach of townsville suns in NBL
19 paul  kuiper off the hospital bed on starting for newcastle
20 baker, longley (g), van der putten, cattlini for perth in 1993
21 scott fischer (n.melb) to ? anywhere who pays him $300,000 NOT WITH
BRISBANE
22 brisbane sign ex-college player from villanova playing in france with
26ppg and 12 rpg. as import (not scott fischer (too expensive i guess)
23 paul maley signs again with n.melb after backing out of a deal with
t/ville
24 brett brown to coach n.melb

and news!! an australian team (not the national team!!) a collection of
australian nbl players who were in the states, played notre dame
(du lac - indiana) a team which comprised off not many big names, but
only a kind hearted anti-aids man named ray borner (nmelb to geelong) .
australia losing on a rough score of 110-60  under "ken cole" as the
coach!!!! ps, the aussies had too much beer the night before the game.


that's all

Bryan

blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: NBL : PERTH IN NEW "ASIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:56:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au


THERE WILL BE AN ABL (ASIAN BASKETBALL LEAGUE) IN 1993
WHICH WILL BE HELD  ANNUALLY FROM NOVEMBER TO MARCH

AMONG THE TEAMS WILL BE (BOTH 1993 AND FUTURE):
-LAOS
-PHNOM PHENH
-KUALA LUMPER
-""PERTH WILDCATS""
-HONG KONG
-SINAPORE
-BRUNEI
-JAKARTA
-BANGKOK
-BEIJING

AMONG OTHER TEAMS

KERRY STOKES (OWNER OF THE PERTH WILDCATS) BOUGHT A LICENSE TO FIELD A
TEAM IN THE NEW ABL. FOR $300,000. KERRY SAID IT WOULD ACT AS A LEAD UP
TO THE NBL SEASON. WHERE THE WILDCATS COULD TEST YOUNGSTERS AND
POTENTIAL IMPORTS.

THE WILDCATS ARE EXPECTED TO DOMINATE THE COMPETITION FOR THE FIRST FEW
YEARS. A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE FROM THE NBL IS THAT  3 IMPORTS WILL BE
ALLOWED TO BE ON A TEAM.

THIS IS A BIG STEP FOR BOTH ASIA AND AUSTRALIAN BASKETBALL. ADRIAN
HURLEY WAS CONFIDENT IT WOULD SUCCEED. AS OF YET THE ONLY VIABLE TEAM
FROM AUSTRALIA IS PERTH BECAUSE OF ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SOUTH EAST
ASIA AS WELL AS HAVING LOADS OF MONEY TO SPEND, AND COMING FORWARD WITH
A DEPOSIT FOR THE $300,000 LICENSE, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THE NBL
CHARGES.

YAY, AT LEAST NOW, PERTH WILDCAT SUPPORTERS. THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS
PERTH TEAM INTO THE ABL HAS STOPPED THE PROGRESSION OF A SECOND PERTH
SIDE IN THE NBL. KERRY STOKES HAS OPTED FOR GAMES TO BE PLAYED IN THE
OLD 5,500 SEAT PERTH SUPERDROME (WHY ? BECAUSE TO FILL THE VACANCY LEFT
BY THE WILDCATS AT THE END OF 1989 - AND THEREFORE, IF THE STADIUM WAS
AT LEAST PARTLY IN USE, A  CONSORTIUM FOR A SECOND PERTH TEAM MAY NOT
TAKE FRUITION -> TEAMS WHICH WERE BIDDING FOR A SECOND PERTH TEAM BACK
EARLIER THIS YEAR WAS THE FREMANTLE JAZZ (HEADED BY EX-OWNER BOB
WILLIAMS AND TO PLAY IN THE SUPERDROME UNTIL A DECENT VENUE WOULD BE
BUILT IN FREMANTLE) AND THE SBL TEAM THE BURSWOOD REDBACKS (WHICH HAVE
HAD FAMOUS NAME PLAYERS LIKE CAL BRUTON, ANDREW VLAHOV, LUC LONGLEY,
TROY TRUVILLION, CRAIG EVANS  IN THEIR TEAM) TO PLAY AT THE BIG BURSWOOD
SUPERDOME NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE MT CLAREMONT SUPERDROME.

-----------------0----------------0--------------------0------------0-----


BRYAN
blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: NBL: PERTH WILDCATS IN 1993 ..SNIFF.. <CONTINUED>
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:43:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

as i was saying, tiny pinder did deserves the mvp in 1984
tiny, in his day could beat any player who came against him in the nbl,
and was one hell of a player. as ricky grace said last saturday in the
wildcats special on tv the long road home, the keyway was tiny's and
anybody who tried coming past him, always got a nudge.

anyway, so, the wildcats have about $200,000 to spend. (well more, but
the nbl refuses) so they will be looking for a very good import. with
contacts from the la lakers and dick helm head astt coach of the
clevland cavs.

now with murray out of the box seat and around 35 years of coaching
behind him it'll be hard to break the "habit!!" probably he will take an
administrative role with the wildcats, but hopefully his experience and
adrian hurley's will be very beneficial.

the wildcats will be getting instead of established australians, will be
devolping a program where younsters will be able to play nbl but also a
programme where they take about 15 young w.a. basketballers and have
them learn with the help of the wildcats.

the strength of basketball in w.a. is growing with the emergence of
andrew vlahov and luc longley, now the new breed are coming through the
chris carrolls, the grif longley's, gavin van der putten (top 5 best
foward in high school, playing in ncaa with pepperdine in a starting
position, jamie baker (us high school), martin cattalini

all these players listed above should be on the wildcats roster for
1993, van der putten chose peperdine after getting many offers from
quality colleges like UCLA, but opting for pepperdine because they
condoned their players playing in other compeitions (nbl) during the
college off-season. van der putten has already played and nbl game
against sydney (exhibition), and looks very very promising expect rookie
of the year 1993 to van der putten easily (you can quote me on that)

van der putten is already as high as james crawford and is still
growing.

maybe mike ellis may unretire his number 6 jersey if adrian pushes him
enough.

1993 roster

1. ricky grace
2. hinchen? or quality australian(mike ellis?) or chris carroll
3. vlahov
4. crawford
5. american (tiny pinder mark II)

6. trevor torrance
7. steve davis
8. eric watterson
9. gavin van der putten
10. carroll

11. cattalini
12  griffin longley
13. jamie baker

-----------wildcats 1993--------------
coach : adrian hurley
assistant : dave hancock
general manager : former head of eventscorp w.a.
old general manager derek conway was sacked

basketball w.a. / perth wildcats: murray arnold, mike ellis


WILDCATS... PREMIERS 1993?? NO, BUT 1994,1995,1996

---------------------------------------------------
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: NBL: PERTH WILDCATS IN 1993 ..SNIFF..
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:06:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au


After 4 coaches in 4 years the wildcats are hoping to change the tide
again. The appointment of Adrian Hurley over Murray Arnold, Cal Bruton
and Alan Black just seems to be another step in the wildcat's revolving
door, but reassuring comments by wildcats owner Kerry Stokes has seemed
to stem the tide and Hurley looks to stay, THAT IS if the wildcats get
at least one title in the next three years.

After losing (not yet? releasing...) vince hinchen (too expensive $100+)
tiny pinder, and mike ellis there are big gaps in the wildcats salary
cap. What puzzles me is the wildcats inability  to lure top quality
australian players here. I am not sure, but were they interested in
players like greg hubbard and justin withers?

seems i never heard they were in negotiations with them... players like
svaldenis have already re-signed with hobart, and shane froling has
signed with brisbane, a player perth really wanted, justin (withers) is
ova in canberra, and scott fischer is running aorund all over the place.

what of jason reese? what the newspapers here were saying he was coming
to perth. but no.... not with adrian hurley anyway.. now the wildcats
are scouring not only the USA but also EUROPE for a quality European big
man. A player as the WESST AUSTRALIAN put it , a TINY PINDER MARK II,
tiny was a great player, and deserved to win the mvp in 1984 ova ray borner
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
From: g9023690@cc.uow.edu.au (Philip Secker)
Subject: Re: stereo receiver - NAD
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 22:12:14 GMT

scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) writes:

>serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas) writes:

>>My 13 year old Pioneer receiver (for which i paid $99 at the
>>time) is dead.

>>I am looking for a decent receiver/amplifier to replace it with.

>>It seems like there is nothing decent under $350 out there!

>Have a look at the Rotel RX940AX, 

>40W rms/channel
>0.03% THD at continuous rated power
>20 Hz - 30 kHz (+0dB -1dB)
>Auto/manual Digital tuning Holds 20 FM/AM presets in any combination,
>Treble, Bass and Balance controls
>Tape, Aux, CD, Phono inputs
>Remote speaker switch
>Headphone Jack :-)

>Looks nice.  I am not sure about the price tho..hang on I'll call the
>local Rotel dealer...

>Oh... RRP is $599, however you can get it for about $500 with haggling,
>$150 over your limit?  Save up an extra $150 and go take a look, its
>a nice sounding, solid unit.

>I am not sure you will see much worth while under $350...on the other
>hand your $99 tuner seems to have served you well, what did it sound like? 
>what does $99 from 1980 translate to nowdays?  The 2nd hand market
>may pick you up a v.nice tuner for $350.

>Regards Scott.

I recently bought the latest mid-range NAD receiver (can't remember the product
code unfortunately).  It retails for approx. $700, I bought it for $550 duty
free.  It has all of the above features of the Rotel, plus a few more.  The
most important being the remote control (you had better believe it, who would
buy a TV nowadays without one ?).  It features a nice big LCD display so you
can see what's happening.
Overall its a great unit, and I recommend it.

Philip
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=============================================================================
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PH:     +61 42 213785
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
From: stuart@uwa.oz.au (Mather)
Subject: Re: A basic stereo receiver
Organization: Elec Eng, Univ of Western Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:47:11 GMT

	I have a NAD 7225 and can fully recommend it. I think
it cost me $400 but this was 5 or 6 years ago. This Amp is also
quite capable of driving difficult speaker impedances. Sound is
warm and never boring. NAD rate this amp at 25watts RMS, but I 
have read articles that actually rate it at 50watts RMS. This 
is a very simple looking amp and has only 5 station presets on
AM and FM, but I guess you get what you pay for.

	~ STU ~
 
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull)
Subject: Info about problems with vistalites
Organization: Computer Power Software Group Pty Ltd
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:25:42 GMT


Further to my post of a couple of days ago about the police using
mountain bikes with only vistalites at the rear I am taking the
liberty of reposting this summary artical from rec.bicycles.tech.
<<<<<<<<<

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Vistalite Rear Flasher
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 08 Dec 92 12:32:11 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: oexmann@convex.com's message of Tue, 8 Dec 1992 00:42:24 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 8 Dec 1992 00:42:24 GMT, oexmann@convex.com (Carla Oexmann) said:
> X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX ComputerCorp. The 
>  opinions expressed are those of the user andnot necessarily those of CONVEX.

> In article <3823@iris.mincom.oz.au> chrisgi@iris.mincom.oz.au (Chris Gillespie) writes:
>>I came in a little late on this thread so I may have missed
>>something.  But why would anyone want to stop their vistalite
>>flashing??  I use one, and while I agree they may be a little
>>annoying, IMHO they offer the highest noticability/wattage ratio
>>in a rear light.

> They are certainly noticeable, but I have problems identifying exactly
> where that noticeable flashing light is, especially when there's a 
> heavy mist/slight shower.  I've also heard that the police in at least
> 2 areas discovered the hard way that drunks tend to drive into 
> things like copcars with flashing lights.  Given that sober, I have
> a hard time figuring out exactly where they are, I can easily believe
> the story about the drunks.

According to a comment I recently read in some biking magazine, they are also
illegal in the UK (but its ok to wear flashing lights attached to your clothing
while riding). Hardly a detailed reference I know, but plausible, since the
only flashing lights I've seen on sale have been yellow and advertised for
such usage. The red (steady) LED light I have also says its not legal as a main
rear on bikes bought after some date in 1991 (I think - don't rely on this)
because it doesn't meet some relevent British Standard, but I think its more
visible than the conventional lamp its beside, the batteries last longer, and
it gives me some light if the bulb goes in the main light...

>--
     Alan Braggins, alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com, abraggins@cix.compulink.co.uk
Shape Data - A division of EDS-Scicon Limited.   Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."

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