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From: kirkland@cadehp8.eng.utah.edu (Daniel Kirkland)
Subject: MEMVIEW
Keywords: MEMVIEW
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 05:47:32 GMT



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MEMVIEW
by Dan Kirkland

To use just press the MEMVEIW menu key.

MEMVIEW is just another program that shows a graph of your memory
usage.

So why did I write another memory program?
Because I did not like having to change a value every time I
merged or freed one of my RAM cards!

MEMVIEW will detect any merged RAM cards and adjust accordingly.
MEMVIEW is small, only 374 bytes.
MEMVIEW fast.
MEMVIEW uses the text grob so PICT is not destroyed.
MEMVIEW needs less than 300 bytes free RAM.

The usual disclaimers apply.

Dan Kirkland

Email: kirkland@ee.utah.edu

END_DOC


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Programmers Calculator?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:13:25 GMT

In <C121sA.EIq@iat.holonet.net> brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh) writes:

>books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books) writes:
>: Has anyone written anything that will let a 48 function as a programmers
>: calculater?
>If your question is related to rotating bits, etc., your prayers will soon
>be answered.  Jake Schwartz and Rick Grevelle have been working on an
>HP16C emulator (complete emulation) which should be available around
>March.  Jake demonstrated it at the Winter Consumer Electronics Show
>annual HP users dinner meeting last weekend (Jan 9).  It's fast and very
>usable.

If you can't wait for the above, I believe BILL WICKES wrote a program
called BINCALC that is in his book "HP48 Insights, Part I".

It is basically a vectored enter "front-end" to the HP48's binary funtions.
Since it is copyrighted, I don't think you'll see it posted here.

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
From: heavy-metal@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:25:41 CST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP48S vs. HP48SX



>> No difference, just two slots, a removable cover and $100.
>>
>> BTW I have a 48s and I am quite happy with it.  I too am too poor     e SX,
>> but with my computer I have a 48 with a 50 meg hard drive.
>> Top that.
>>
>> Brian Badger


I have an SX with a 128K, a 512K and with my computer I have an extra
16Meg, a 160Meg hard drive and a 1Gb hard drive. Did I top ya? Sorry,
but I had to . . .

Bob
From: rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Shipping a HP to Sweden $50?!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 02:08:06 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation
NNTP-Posting-Host: spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <C1J77K.7wu@lysator.liu.se> calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski) writes:
>I am going to buy a 48sx soon.  Recently I talked with some guy at EduCalc
>about getting it shipped here to Sweden.  He told (wrote actually) me that it
>would cost me almost $50.  That is for a HP48sx, a case and a CMT 128K card.
>He mentioned something about this being called "UPS Blue".  I'm not sure what
>that means but it seems pretty damn expensive to me.  I guess that is air mail.

When I specify UPS Blue shipping, it means I get the package on the second
day after they ship it. In other words, its second day shipping. I had
a hp48 shipped from EduCalc via ups blue, cost me $8.75. That was to
a USA address.

The next cheaper UPS freight is UPS ground, but of course, that doesnt
quite reach Sweden.. If the total package is under 4 lbs, it might
be shipped as a small packet via the post office here. Thats $21.59
for 4 lbs to Europe. Larger packages go by air parcel. To sweden 6 
lbs is $39.70. Max insurance on the parcel is $500. I dont know how
much it would wiegh.
-- 
rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu; N7YVM/AA, negadittohead, and some other stuff
Disclaimer from Minnesota Public Radio's "What Do You Know":
The opinions expressed here are well thought out and 
insightful and, needless to say, are not those of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: msperise@iiic.ethz.ch (Marc Anton Sperisen)
Subject: german hp48 book & star for mac
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Distribution: comp.sys.hp48
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:30:18 GMT

Hello,

a friend of mine is looking for a book on the hp48. this book should cover 
the programming in assembler, memory management, keyboard and display 
handling.
as he does not speak english and nor french, the book has to be written in
german. if anybody knows about such a book, or has papers on this topic in
german he/she is welcomed to write me.

thanx marc


ps: i am still looking for star for mac, please let me know if you have it 
    or if you know where i can get it. i know i could run star under softat,
    but...
From: phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Taking exams?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:41:53 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: emmental.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1k2ltgINNeve@mojo.eng.umd.edu> tedwards@eng.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
 >In article <-0#@byu.edu> dougc@bert.cs.byu.edu (Douglas R. Cannon) writes:
 >about long-distance IR cheating...
 >
 >>Well, I guess the question still exists as to whether it can be done.
 >
 >What exactly is the format of the HP48 IR xmission?  It seems like it 
 >wouldn't be overly hard to design a good IR digital receiver (IR photo
 >transistor plus amplifier and logic and IR LED, mounted in a small 
 >package ductapeable to your HP, though it might stand out in class).
 >
 >-Thomas

Build it in to a large eraser, and put it in front of your calculator,
give or take a few inches...

-- 
*----------*-------------------------------------------------------------*
| Sam   Jam|"Never underestimate the importance of a cheap laugh"-       |
| Liddicott| phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk                     Plucky Duck TTA |
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From: fee@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Exam mode in version J (var lock?)dir
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:18:53 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

>>> > For safety sake, avoid high voltages, and
>>> >pay no attention to current arguments, which might be misleading to those
>>> >who have never worked with electricity. 


I may be missing the point somewhat but I believe this thread is about whether
current or voltage is the danger. A better rule for those who have never
worked with electricity is that they BOTH are dangerous.

The local aluminium smelter uses electrolysis to melt aluminium ore in
4000 litre pots. How much voltage do you think this would require?
They use 3.5 Volts.

Don't ever tell someone who has never worked  with electricity to "pay
no attention to current arguments" - tell them to watch EVERYTHING!

Regards.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:17:54 MST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Taking exams?
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: rhelps@bones.et.byu.edu (Richard Helps)

In article <1993Jan21.160756.63009@cc.usu.edu> slp9k@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> 
>> Hm..., six feet? Is that the distance between you and your neighbour during
>> your next exam :-)? But more seriously: this will be the next *major* problem
>> with calcs like the HP48 during exams.
>> 
>	This is just a rumor I heard, so maybe someone at BYU can confirm it.
>	I do not attend BYU, nor do I know electronics so don't ask me how
>anything was done.
>	The rumor went something like this:
>
>	The reciver on the HP is limited through hard wiring.  So some students
>At BYU bypassed the wiring and were sending answers across the room to each
>other during a test.  Somehow or other the professor caught them and the use of
>HP-48's has been banned for all tests at BYU.
>
>	This raises the question of whether this can really be done.  If so I'm
>afraid that all schools would have to ban the 48 during tests.  Isn't
>technology great?
>
>-- 
>Disclaimer:  I don't care
>
>Darrell Fuhriman          *     "Oh, just like an orange cloud of light, 
>SLP9K@CC.USU.EDU          *      that just blows right out of it.  Wow!"

 Sounds unlikely,  Based on previous comments published in this newsgroup
I believe the distance an IR connection can successfully
operate is limited by the power of the RECEIVER.  That's why remote
control programs for the 48 can function across the room.  (The TV has
got lots of power to spare).  I have seen HP48s communicate long distances
(a few feet) under good conditions without modifications (good batteries, 
no noise).

Certainly my students are still welcome to use calculators in tests.  My
tests are set appropriately.

Please don't lets start the "cheating in tests" thread up again.  Cheating 
is not new and technology isn't the cause of it.  This argument is 
probably summarized in the FAQ.

Richard Helps, BYU, Provo, UT.
From: bowman@reed.edu (Hobo Bobo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Exam mode in version J (var lock?)
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:20:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan25.102025.17910
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1993Jan24.070428.12222@engage.pko.dec.com> marshall@tfh.enet.dec.com (Hunting the Snark) writes:

>>Said current will never flow without some applied voltage.

>wrong. current can be produced by a magnetic field.

#define NIT_PICK

wrong.  Producing current requires work be done.  No magnetic field has ever,
nor will ever, do work.  Therefore no magnetic field will every produce
current.

#undef NIT_PICK

cheers,
bobo              In seeking the unattainable,
bowman@reed.edu            simplicity only gets in the way.
Best personal ad ever:
"Functionally dysfunctional bi-polar former pop-star geek with Valium habit
seeks anorexic queen of darkness for co-dependency.  Hobbies include: passing
out, slurred speech, blurred vision and reliving past glory."
_Willamette Week_, 1/7-13/93
From: tedwards@eng.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Taking exams?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 06:32:16 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: azalea.src.umd.edu

In article <-0#@byu.edu> dougc@bert.cs.byu.edu (Douglas R. Cannon) writes:
about long-distance IR cheating...

>Well, I guess the question still exists as to whether it can be done.

What exactly is the format of the HP48 IR xmission?  It seems like it 
wouldn't be overly hard to design a good IR digital receiver (IR photo
transistor plus amplifier and logic and IR LED, mounted in a small 
package ductapeable to your HP, though it might stand out in class).

-Thomas


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: hdev@dutiag.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught)
Subject: Re: Taking exams? (was: Extending the IR Port)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:47:32 GMT

smburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean M Burke) writes:

>In article <hdev.727606965@dutiai> hdev@dutiai.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught) writes:

>>Hm..., six feet? Is that the distance between you and your neighbour during
>>your next exam :-)? But more seriously: this will be the next *major* problem
>>with calcs like the HP48 during exams.
>>
>>The range of the HP95LX is much larger. I can use it as a RC through my
>>entire room.

>I've used my 48 as a RC over distances of about 12 feet with no problems. .
>Now if only the receiver was that good.

The receiver of the HP95LX isn't bad either. I can receive the signal from my
RC through my entire room also. However, you need to aim the IR beam well to
the HP.
--
Hans de Vreught                          | John von Neumann:
hdev@dutiba.twi.tudelft.nl               | Young man, in mathematics
Delft University of Technology (TWI-ThI) | you don't understand things,
The Netherlands                          | you just get used to them.
From: phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: C compiler for HP48
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:47:28 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: emmental.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <C19FEw.8Ep@panix.com> jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) writes:
>It's my recollection that Bill Gribble (author of NRTS) at Harvey Mudd
>was working on such a beast (last year sometime). His address is
><bgribble@jarthur.claremont.edu>.
>--
>John Hawkinson
>jhawk@panix.com

I dropped him a line, and thus he writes (giving permission for me to 
quote him here):

Work on the compiler has stopped for a while... I am in my last year of 
an engineering degree and I don't have too much free time.  

I have never had any instruction on how compilers work, so I just sort of 
made it up as I went along.  It's probably horribly inefficient and awful.
I don't have any way of knowing.  Anyway, the thing (as a bare-bones
framework) is almost finished.  It will take a source file and generate 
STAR-syntax assembly language, but STAR can't handle it because there are 
some required macros which I haven't finished.  It only has a few data types
implemented, but adding more is simple.  There's not much of a library, yet.

The big problem is that I'm not really that interested any more.  I want my 
11C back -- the neatness of being able to do stuff on a machine that small 
has worn pretty thin.  I can't think of any real, useful applications for 
a C cross compiler for the 48.  I still have the code around, but I can't 
honestly see it getting finished any time soon.

Bill

-------------------------
sooooooooooooo  any volunteers to continue the project.

I don't know a bit of C, so can laugh it off?

Ahh well, drop him a line if you want to take over.
his addr (again): bgribble@jarthur.claremont.edu

thats it really!.


-- 
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| Sam   Jam|"Never underestimate the importance of a cheap laugh"-       |
| Liddicott| phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk                     Plucky Duck TTA |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: p_quinn@pavo.concordia.ca (QUINN, PAUL)
Subject: Re: Programmers Calculator?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:12:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.151325.4632@mixcom.com>, kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes...
>In <C121sA.EIq@iat.holonet.net> brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh) writes:
> 
>>books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books) writes:
>>: Has anyone written anything that will let a 48 function as a programmers
>>: calculater?
>>If your question is related to rotating bits, etc., your prayers will soon
>>be answered.  Jake Schwartz and Rick Grevelle have been working on an
>>HP16C emulator (complete emulation) which should be available around
>>March.  Jake demonstrated it at the Winter Consumer Electronics Show
>>annual HP users dinner meeting last weekend (Jan 9).  It's fast and very
>>usable.
> 
>If you can't wait for the above, I believe BILL WICKES wrote a program
>called BINCALC that is in his book "HP48 Insights, Part I".
> 
>It is basically a vectored enter "front-end" to the HP48's binary funtions.
>Since it is copyrighted, I don't think you'll see it posted here.
> 
>-- 
>Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com
> 
>        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
>                          -- Microware


	Give EduCalc a call.  They sell the HP 16C brand new for 34.95.
I ordered mine yesterday :-)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Quinn			p_quinn@pavo.concordia.ca

				Computer Science: System Architecture
				Concordia University, MTL, Qc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: Exam mode in version J (var lock?)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:26:50 GMT

In article <VgBPXB15w165w@kf8nh.wariat.org> kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
>kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan19.193729.6825@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) 
>> >In article <1993Jan16.125606.1940@doug.cae.wisc.edu> kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (J
>> >>Actually, current fries you, regardless of whether it's lightning or RF.
>> >Current is always the -dependant- variable, it is a result, not a cause. 
>> 
>> Current isn't a cause of frying you?  Current is a _result_ of frying you?
>> I think not. :-)  Just kidding... I know you mean that current is the
>> result of lightning.
>
>Actually, he and I both blew it.  Voltage is the result of current across a
>resistance, not vice versa.  

I have a battery. I measure the voltage with a balanced bridge, so essentially
no current flows. How is this possible since voltage is a result? In fact,
how are batteries possible? 

>If voltage were the important part,

No voltage, no current.

>superconductivity would have no use because you get a very, very low voltage
>for even a high current.

Said current will never flow without some applied voltage.
 
>> > For safety sake, avoid high voltages, and
>> >pay no attention to current arguments, which might be misleading to those
>> >who have never worked with electricity. 
>> 
>> Yes, good advice.  Although it's hard to avoid that 10KV potential on the
>> door knob when you've been rubbing your feet across the carpet, sometimes.
>> :-)  (Especially in the dry frozen tundra of Wisconsin here!)
>
>As little as 30 volts can kill with a sufficiently high current.

I was once working on a radio tower in the desert. I guess that I was
sweating more that I was aware. I was shocked by a 60V source, which
I had handled without danger for several years. The point is that the
-other- variable, skin resistance, had changed. Current is a result of
applied volatge across a resistance. Skin resistance is quite variable.
 
>++Brandon
>
>He's BAAAACK! Brandon S. Allbery                       kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org
>Help stamp out OSF/Motif in our lifetime!


Rich

payner@netcom.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:29:50 EST
From: <IXJ100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Electrical Engineering Apps

I recently purchased an HP-48SX for my Computer/Electrical Engineering
studies.  I am in the market for circuit simulator/EE referance
applications for the calculator.

Please post any experiences/suggestions for the above-mentionned
software.

Igor R. Jablokov
ixj100@psuvm.psu.edu
The Pennsylvania State University
From: okko@sulo.otol.fi (Olli-Pekka Halonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Rev. J difference, STRANGE!
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:28:29 GMT
Organization: Oulu Institute of Technology, Finland

From article <2b609ca8.2686.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>, by akcs.kirkland@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Dan Kirkland):
> With equation:
> 'E(x=1,100,5*x^2*LN(x)/SIN(x))'
>  ^ is summation.
> on a version E my ansers are the same as Bill's.
> 8088177.07545  in deg mode.
> 2584500.75352  in rad mode
> 8422210.25973  in grad mode.
> 
> Dan Kirkland
> 

I got my rev. J about 2 weeks ago and i've had rev. E before it about
1.5 years. I wrote the equation on my J and evaluated it on the stack
on those three modes and got exactly the same answers than Dan with rev. E.

Then i put it into EQ.writer and evaluated it from there on those three
modes and again i got the same answers. I was using STD-display and even
last decimals were precisely same, so what do we learn from here ?
Either theres diffrences between rev. J calculators or something else
is wrong....

PS. theres no diffrences of the results using symbolic calculation mode
    or not. Putting an value to x (lets assume: 2 'x' sto in home-dir)
    didin't affect to the result neither.

Olli-Pekka Halonen


-----------------------------------------------------------
 Olli-Pekka Halonen             |   "To become better
 Oulu Institute of Technology   |  is beyond hard work..."
 okko@otol.fi                   |     ..what the f**k..
------------------------------------------------------------
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
 Olli-Pekka Halonen             |   "To become better
 Oulu institute of Technology   |  is beyond hard work..."
 okko@otol.fi                   |     ..what the f**k..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: hdev@dutiai.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught)
Subject: Re: Taking exams? (was: Extending the IR Port)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:02:45 GMT

makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN) writes:

>Does anyone have any information on extending the range of the IR port? A
>couple of co-workers and I would like to try an experiment with the HP48sx,
>and would like to achieve a transmit range of at least 6 feet. Has anyone
>been successful in hooking a small radio transmitter to the serial port?
>Im curious, so if anyone has accomplished this, please let me know..

Hm..., six feet? Is that the distance between you and your neighbour during
your next exam :-)? But more seriously: this will be the next *major* problem
with calcs like the HP48 during exams.

The range of the HP95LX is much larger. I can use it as a RC through my
entire room.
--
Hans de Vreught                          | John von Neumann:
hdev@dutiba.twi.tudelft.nl               | Young man, in mathematics
Delft University of Technology (TWI-ThI) | you don't understand things,
The Netherlands                          | you just get used to them.
From: 2hwblocked@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP48S vs. HP48SX
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:15:41 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Could anyone please tell an impovershed graduate student if there is any
difference in the software functions of the 48S, compared to the 48SX?
For a price difference of $100.00, I could eat better in the upcoming months
and not have to scrimp on medicine.  My HP 28S fell apart three weeks ago.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48