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From: harryf@vax.oxford.ac.uk (~)
Newsgroups: rec.games.go
Subject: Gomoku for MAC - a virus?!
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:16:51 GMT
Organization: Dept of Engineering Science, University of Oxford


           Problem with Gomoku on Macintoshes?
           ===================================

The following was scanned from a recent issue of MacUser.


               (MAC) Virus due for 15 August strike

T4, a virus which lurks in versions 2.0 and 2 .1 of the game Gomoku,
is set to wreak havoc on 15 August 1992. The virus causes irreparable
damage to files and applications and alters the System file so that
INITs and extensons will not load.

Anti-virus software such as Virex 3.82, from Microcom, and
Disinfectant, a shareware protection package, can detect and remove
the virus, but cannot yet repair damaged files.

Anti-viral tools, which monitor suspicious activity, are even less
effective because T4 masquerades as part of the immune system.  While
T4 is slicing up your Software, Gatekeeper, for example, reports that
Disinfectant is at work mending a file.  According to Microcom, a
planned update will detect and repair infected files.

Meanwhile, ChinaTalk, horse (a virus hiding within a program which
looks interesting to an unsuspecting user). is erasing information on
the hard drive, which results in the loss of most, if notall, of the
data.  Symantec claims 3.0 software can detect ChinaTalk

[info from   Symantec 0628 776343]

From MacUser (Dennis Publ Ltd) V8#16, p18, 7Aug92.


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From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: rec.games.go
Subject: Re: ***What's Going On at CNAM??***
Date: 16 Aug 92 07:12:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.go
Organization: Personal

In article <CGAY.92Aug15201702@ilix.cs.uoregon.edu>,
cgay@ilix.cs.uoregon.edu (Carl L. Gay) wrote:
> 
> I have *always* gotten "connection refused" or , occasionally,
> "connection timed out" from cnam.cnam.fr.  Does anyone know what the
> story is with the French server?
> 
> -Carl

pourqoi il faut que nous responde a la langue francais?

--

Dana S Emery <de19@umail.umd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.go
From: gardner@cs.monash.edu.au ()
Subject: Dang Hu Games: Game 8
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:23:26 GMT

Are the danghu games available by ftp - I missed game 8 :-(don't know why)
If not could you email me games 1,3,8? If that's too much trouble,
I will understand - you are a busy guy :-)

Thanks for putting in all the effort!

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Newsgroups: rec.games.go
From: os9ug@gkcl.ists.ca (OS-9 User Group)
Subject: Sakata in Toronto
Summary: Sakata and Oeda are coming to Toronto this week!
Keywords: sakata go toronto professional oeda
Reply-To: sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca (Justin)
Organization: y
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 05:27:37 GMT


Sakata Eio and Oeda are coming to Toronto this week!  Thursday and Friday
evenings of this week Sakata and Oeda will be playing some games with
amateurs, talking about go, etc.  There will also be boards set up for
people to play casual games as well.  

If you are interested, and you can get to Toronto, come either Thursday
or Friday evening.  The fun starts around 6:30

I believe that Sakata is already "booked" for his games.  He will be
playing simultaneous games with amateurs.  I think Oeda is still
available to play.  These guys charge something like $1500 if you want
to play them in Japan, but they are charging only $100 in Toronto.  If
you just want to come and watch, and play a few casual games, then of 
course that's free.

Oeda, by the way, is Redmonds teacher, and current president of
the Nihon Kiin, and a 9d.  For those of you who don't know (I didn't,
i'm just an ignorant 7k).).

Anyway.  It's at the conference rooms at the Sheraton Center in
Toronto (where Sakata is staying).  For those of you who don't know,
this is on Queen St., around the intersection of Queen and Bay, 
directly across the street from Toronto city hall.

Please don't ask me any questions because I don't know any answers.  
I'm just some guy that happens to hang around at the Toronto Go club,
and heard about this.  If you want more details try calling Pat Thompson
and asking him.  His telephone # is 1-416-728-0669.  

And that's THIS COMING THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, from 6:30pm onwards!


Newsgroups: rec.games.go,rec.games.chess
From: disabito@progress.COM (Paul Disabito)
Subject: Re: Real world analogies to Go (& some comparison
Keywords: go analogy life power chess
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:36:11 GMT

olounela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Olli Lounela) writes:

>In article <Bt4t1v.4Jy@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dabrowsa@ute.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Dabrowski) writes:
>>In article <#=9mj6j@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>> Giving or recieving stones also has the
>>>advantage that it doesn't change the game a whole lot- the basic strategies
>>>are still the same.
>>
>>I've heard this many times but I don't think I believe it. Doesn't it change
>>the basic strategies a lot if you start from a position which is
>>theoretically lost?  It means that rather than playing the objectively
>>best moves you must play over-ambitiously in the hope that your opponent
>>will make a mistake.

>Theis is rather a tedious matter.  Whereas it is true that the situation
>is originally lost, it is not true this would _force_ one to play
>unreasonably.  I've been surprised to find just how effective it is to
>play normal moves and catch the mistaeks of my opponent and punish him
>for them.  This is how (I think :-) I play, and what I find most
>surprising is the astonished attitude of some of the opponents: "Nobody
>has played that way with me before...". 

The same is also true in chess. While handicapping another player
changes your strategy somewhat, it does not change it drastically.
What I mean by this is that, like normal, you start the opening
by developing your pieces to control the center. Then you examine
the elements of the position and develop a plan. Generally, the
weaker player makes this easy for you by neglecting development,
hanging pieces, etc. You don't lose your head or overextend
your position. The opponent is handicapped for a reason.

-Paul DiSabito
From: davids@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (David Petrie Stoutamire)
Newsgroups: rec.games.go
Subject: Why IGS was down
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:01:09 GMT
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.

Recently the icsib18 IGS was down for a while when a transformer blew up
that feeds power to the Berkeley campus.  Our network feed at icsi comes
from campus so we had to wait until it was fixed.

Sorry for the inconvenience.  Keep playing; I can almost hear little
plink, plinks (taps?  What's the official go onomatopoeia?) coming from
my machine when you move :-).

    - Dave
Xref: sparky rec.games.go:1563 rec.games.chess:6113
From: storm@med.umich.edu (John Starkweather )
Subject: Re: Where are there GO servers?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 11:24:04 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Originator: storm@wolverine.math.lsa.umich.edu


icsib18.icsi.berkeley.edu 6969

if that is easier to deal with than

128.32.201.46 6969
Xref: sparky rec.games.go:1609 rec.games.chess:6223
From: jansteen@cwi.nl (Jan van der Steen)
Newsgroups: rec.games.go,rec.games.chess
Subject: Shogi Game Printing (was: SHOGI!)
Keywords: shogi, printing
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:23:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.go

karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen) writes:

[Interesting desciption about Shogi books deleted...]

    >There is also this postscript file called shogi.ps I found from
    >some ftp-site I don't remember anymore. It contains the 'arrowy'
    >figures you suggested:

    >======================CUT HERE================================
    >%!
    >%%Title: Shogi Game Pieces Toolkit (Western style)
    >%%Creator: Jan van der Steen
    >%%Date: Thu Nov  1 10:49:24 MET 1990
    >%%Documentfonts: Times-Roman
    >%%Pages: 1
    >%%StartPrologue
    [many lines of PS code deleted...]
    >======================CUT HERE================================

Funny, I don't remember at all that I had distributed this code :)
But, now people know about it I should tell the whole story.

The file included in the above message is a PostScript prolog, i.e.
a collection of procedures to drive an (intelligent) PostScript
printer. But, there is also a user-friendly frontend coming with
this (unfriendly) backend to specify the diagrams.

It's a C program allowing the user to feed it a shogi game specified
in a user readable form and get a collection of Shogi diagrams as output.
The Shogi diagrams are in "encapsulated PostScript format" enabling
the user to import them in other documents, or to just send them to
the printer. The user can specify at which moment a diagram should be
generated. The user can also specify variations.

The format accepted by the program is the same as the one used in
Shogi World (Ishi Press), something like:

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Page 12 ff. of SHOGI WORLD Number 9, Autumn 1991

    (
    #S: Habu Yoshiharu Ex-Ryuo
    #G: Minami Yoshikazu Kio

     1. P-7f	P-8d
     2. S-6h	P-3d
     3. P-6f

    #p

    The situation in diagram 1 ...

    [many lines deleted...]

    56. G*3d	Kx3d
    57. Gx4d	Kx4d
    58. N*3f

    Resigns

    #p
    )
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

If you're interested in the program drop me a note.

Jan van der Steen (bad in shogi, reasonable in chess and fond of Go)

-- 
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Jan van der Steen                 jansteen@cwi.nl
     Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science (CWI)
     Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: rec.games.go
Subject: Re: Real world analogies to Go (& some comparison with Chess)
Date: 16 Aug 92 07:36:16 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.go,rec.games.chess
Organization: Personal



I was a struggling pawn pusher until, as a college freshling, I met up with
the first Go books of the nascent ISHI Press, and then I spent 3 years
developing my strength to 4 kyu.  Since I have little head for strategy,
most of that rating was fighting skills, which I honed in combat with an
MIT Korean Grad student who gave me 9 stone, and who I could actually
outduell occaisionally (thank you mr Yuen).

For me, Go is the inverse of chess.

in Go, the board starts full of possibilitys, and ends up determined.
in Go, the strength of a position is manifest to the eye.
in Go, the pieces are static.
in Go, your opponant usually has respect for you and the game. 

Exposure to Go did nothing for my chess rating, it completely supplanted my
interest in chess.  About my only interest in chess these days is to look
for the inevitable typos in newspaper chess problems.

I dont view a Go move as the invasion of a paratrooper, I reserve that
analogy to Shoji.

Frankly, I cant say that I view a Go game in any other terms, except as a
Go game.  I do sometimes find myself adopting strategys from Go (and other
strategic games) to other situations; such as keeping aji, and otherwise
maximizing options.
--

Dana S Emery <de19@umail.umd.edu>
From: woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess)
Newsgroups: rec.games.go
Subject: Re: Real world analogies to Go
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:21:55 GMT
Reply-To: woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess)
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.; Campbell, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nest.hal.com
In-reply-to: sepa6@syma.sussex.ac.uk (David Amos)

Well, there are those who find in Go analogies to life.  And then there
are those who find in life analogies to Go...

--woodstock
-- 
"It doesn't impress the girls, of course, but there's no sense
impressing them and then getting killed, my dad used to say..."  - Hobbes

woodstock@hal.com              11 kyu               (408) 379-7000 x1112
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson)
Subject: Re: Appeals Committee ruling
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:41:39 GMT

In article <ted.714063980@sage0> ted@sage0.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ted Ying) writes:
* 
* [about the appeal]
* 
*           S: -
*           H: KQJT6
*           D: T82                      Board 11
*           C: Q9432                    None Vul
*                                       Dealer South
* S: 85                S: T9642
* H: 8                 H: 742           South  West   North  East
* D: AKQJ9764          D: 3             ----------------------------
* C: 87                C: AJT6          1S     3S     P      3NT
*                                       X      4D     X      P
*           S: AKQJ73                   P      P
*           H: A953
*           D: 5
*           C: K5

I think EW are guilty as charged, and deserve the -1100,
plus a lecture on the merits of having firm bidding understandings.

However, NS does not deserve the top for +1100.
I think NS should get a score of 4H, +450,
or even +100, for 4Dx down 1, since they were willing
to defend when they had a cold game.

Giving this NS +1100 penalizes the rest of the NS field.

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Toronto Nationals selection #1
From: avir@chen.bgu.ac.il (Avi Roy Shapira)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:59:59 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

Professor WHO? writes:

: RED, you hold S:AJ3 H:J984 D:K3 C:QT82.  RHO opened 1NT (11-14) third in
: hand.  All pass.  Select your opening lead.

Club 2. WTP?

: RED, you hold S:KT95 H:7 D:QJT9 C:J653.  LHO opened 1NT (11-14) in third
: seat.  Do you think you should balance?  With what (please specify your
: methods in followups)?

No, You should not balance. There is no chance for game on our side, since
partner did not double. If you double, partner will leave it in, and lead
a heart, probably yielding the 7th trick, or worth yet, will bid hearts, of
which he has at least 4.

: RED, you hold S:AT9 H:K92 D:QJT2 C:KQ6.  RHO opened 1D first in hand.  What
: is your action and why?

Pass, although I may consider 1NT if desparate, because of the good
intermediates. I think that at imps it is very dangerous to bid with this
sort of hand, and the gains are few. Remember, partner will often balance with
8 points or more and will certainly balance with 10, so you are unlikely to
miss a game if it's there. On the other hand, if partner has a bust, and you
overcall 1NT, you will go for a number with no place to run to.
:
: YELLOW, you hold S:T98 H:KJ43 D:Q7 C:AK86 and opened 1C first in hand.
: Partner responded 1S (you play Walsh style).  What is your rebid?  Would you
: raise to 2S if your methods allow a 3 card raise?

I would like to, and would, if playing Acol. But Acol does not allow a 1S
response on 5432.  Walsh promotes bidding the 5432 spade suit in prefernece
to the AKxxx in diamonds. This makes an immediate single raise less
attractive, and I see nothing wrong with responding 1NT, particularly if I
have some form of checkback, as I should, playing Walsh.
:
: WHITE, you hold S:KQ9743 H:J2 D:AKJ C:K7 and opened 1S first in hand.  If
: partner responds one forcing no-trump (2/1 style) then how do you rebid?

Despite the 17 HCP, and the decent 6 suiter, I don't like the texture of
this hand and the distribution of honors. So I think that 3S is a bit
of an overbid, particularly not vul. 2S is too weak, and there are many
hands that partnenr will pass that will produce a play for game. I think
that 2D is reasonable. If partner passes that, it is likely to be a good
spot. I shall rebid the spades over any call partner is going to make.

: YELLOW, you hold S:AQ52 H:J862 D:AKT C:AJ and opened 1S second to speak
: (you are playing 4-card majors).  LHO doubled for take-out and partner
: passed (denying any kind of a six-card suit or a good five bagger, as well
: as support).  RHO advanced to 2D.  Your call.
:
Vulnerable, at imps, you cannot risk missing a game. Dbl. Risky. I'd pass
at MP or even at imps, not vul.

Avi



Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: jch@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (jeffrey.c.halle)
Subject: Re: Play 6H (corrected version)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:58:46 GMT

From article <1992Aug14.185432.11146@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>, by skataba@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Sam Atabaki):
> In article <mlg.713713464@volvo> mlg@siemens.com. (Michael Greenberg) writes:
>> 
>>Yet another slam to play:
>> 
>>IMPS
>>Neither vul
>>Dealer South
>> 
>>N:   -   AKJTxx   Qxx   Axxx
>> 
>>S:  KJ8x   xx     AKx   KQT9
>> 
>>Bidding:
>>1N - 2D* - 2H - 6H
>>2D is transfer
>> 
>>Lead 2s
>> 
> Ruff low on the board, Ah (watch what opponents play!), low diamond
> to ace. Now lead your last heart and depending on what west plays
> (and what was played on the first trump), decide to finess or not.

If you are considering a finesse, why do you cash the ace first?  In case
the queen is stiff?  If east has a singleton, it is four times as likely to
be a spot as the queen.  Only cash the A if you are planning NOT to finesse.
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Appeals Committee ruling
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:58:33 GMT

prm@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Paul Raymond McMullin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.162641.27054@linus.mitre.org> bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
>>In article <ted.714063980@sage0> ted@sage0.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ted Ying) writes:
>>...
>When the 3S call was made, the auction was live, and I see no reason to
>declare it to be dead for the EW pair just because W made an unusual call that
>East can work out on bridge judgment alone... (as he apparently did)

Paul, I think you have a misconception of the laws here.  The point is
not whether West could work it out to pull the double by himself ---
but whether his partner's explanation could have helped -- not "DID
help him" but "could have helped" him.  Clearly, the explanation could
have woken W up; it may well not have, but it is definitely within the
realm of probable behavior.  Thats why, had the same auction taken
place without any question or explanation, it would have been OK for W
to pull.  And it is completely improper for you to assume that this
ruling casts any aspersion on anyone's character.

>Oh, really? What is the situation here?  That "presumed guilty" West is a liar
>and a cheat?  Or that N/S are a pair of crybabies that got their average
>stolen away from them by a West player that tried an imaginative bid, believed
>the S player's double, and confused their auction enough to cause them to
>settle for 4D* down 1 instead of the probable par result of 5D* down 2?

Yes, had there been no explanation, West would have been able to do
just that.  But now that West knows there has been a misunderstanding
the onus is on him (as part of the offending pair) to not do anything
that is remotely different from what their agreement states.  The laws
are very clear as to this...

>Paul McMullin prm@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu

Bharat
From: zilch@planb.Eng.Sun.COM (John Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Precision, anyone?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:42:06 GMT
Reply-To: zilch@planb.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: planb

> My question is : Does anybody still play Precision, and if not, why
> not? It seemed to work very well for us, when we weren't mixing up
> conventions. Admitedly it took a little work to get into it, but the
> rewards were there. The difficulty is finding other people to play
> it with.

A difficulty is in finding not only people with whom to play
but also with whom to discuss it.  In most bridge events in
the US & Canada, there are a few pairs playing Precision 
along with others playing some form of artificial forcing 1C opening,
but they are a distinct minority.  This also seems to be true 
here on the net.

In recent years, many players open light (both suits and 1NT), 
preempt early & often, overcall on bad hands or bad suits.  
Against a strong club system, these tendencies are increased.
The result is that Precision auctions rarely proceed with
silent opponents, and thereby lose much of the extra value
that they might otherwise claim.  
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: jhaywood@ms.uky.edu (Joel D Haywood)
Subject: Re: Interesting play
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:20:46 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1992Aug11.235803.19759@twg.com> oldera@twg.com (Ed Alcoff -  Prod Mtg) writes:
>[contract is 6D redoubled]
>		J10xxx
>		-
>		AKJ9
>		Qxxx
>
>		-
>		A109xxx
>		Q10xx
>		AKx
>
>I got a spade opening lead that showed that the spade AKQ were
>in the doubler's (east) hand.

There seem to be two lines.
Line 1: Cash the rounded tops (hopefully) and crossruff.  This seems to
depend upon only 3-3 clubs.
Line 2: Ruff the spade, ruff a heart high, club ace, ruff a heart high, club
king, ruff a heart high, diamond queen-ten, then play hearts followed by the
club queen until someone ruffs then claim.  This seems to depend upon 4-3
hearts, 3-2 diamonds, and no worse than 4-2 clubs.

Now, one big question is why East doubled?  If based only on the AKQ of spades,
then line 2 beats line 1.  But, if East's double indicates bad breaks
(particularly diamonds), then line 1 is superior.

Furthermore, the odds of line 2 in the former case only exceed the odds of
line 1 by 37.31% to 35.38%.  Thus, I'm really not sure how I would play it
against an unknown East.  Even if I knew East well, I'd really like better
than a two percent advantage to use line 2.  I'd also prefer someone besides
me to confirm these odds.  I didn't take into account that if East has four
hearts then East is less likely than normal to have three diamonds, and other
considerations like that.  Maybe line 1 is superior anyway.

Another problem with line 2 is that if it fails, we'll be down at least three
if we don't have the eight of diamonds, and down at least two even if we do.
Line 1 needs 5-1 clubs to go down more than two.  At three cents a point,
the extra (at least) $18 may have to be considered especially with the
difference in the lines being small.  If line 2 goes down three if it fails,
then the expected value of the contract is -$15.32 (using the above odds).
If line 1 goes down (probably only two), then the expected value of the
contract is -$5.38.  Certainly at matchpoint pairs, we wouldn't care about
going down 1000 versus 1600, but at imps or rubber, that might make a
difference.  By now, I think I've just convinced myself to go for line 1.

Now, after all this work, I hope there will be a follow-up article sooner or
later which tells that line 1, by not being (I think) the "percentage play",
fails.  I love to lose thirty bucks (for -1000) just sitting at my computer.

Joel
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