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From: ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:24:12 GMT
Organization: Swinburne Institute of Technology, Hawthorn, Victoria

In article <1992Sep8.220919.16324@njitgw.njit.edu>, rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
|> In article <6921@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug28.171342.14606@access.digex.com>, rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale) writes:
|> >|> Carpenter's PRINCE OF DARKNESS is one of my favorite horror movies.  My 
|> >|> husband and I have watched it many times.  Partly ... to figure out what is
|> >|> really going on.
|> >|> 
|> >|> Does anyone know if this was based on a novel or if there was a novelization
|> >|> of the moive???  [Insight could be increased!]
|> >|> -- 
|> >|> Lady Robin of Riverdale
|> >|> 
|> >|> "Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us."
|> >
|> >   Glad to see someone liking Carpenter's work.  Have you seen his reworking
|> >  of 'The Thing from Another Workd', called 'The Thing'.  It has *very*
|> >  good complimentary effects ... but some see it as overkill.  For my tastes,
|> >  though, it sets the atmosphere very well...
|> >
|> >   For those of you out there who have not seen eith of these films, a walk
|> >  to you local video shop is in order.
|> >
|> >   ps : I recommend you watch 'The Thing'  in the very earily hours of the
|> > morning (ie between 2 and 4 AM).
|> >
|> >                                   Owen  
|> 
|> 	My favorite Carpenter films:
|> 
|> 	Christine, The Thing, and Escape From New York.  All have excellent
|> soundtracks as well, with Christ. and EFNY written by Carpenter himself.
|> 
|> 
|> 						IMHO,
|> 							Raymond H. Rich

   Talking of soundtracks, Carpenters "The Thing" was composed by the great
  Ennio Morriconi of the spagetti western fame.  It is a true masterpiece;
  if you look for it though expect difficulties, it was deleted some time
  ago.

                                               Owen
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: HellRaiser
Reply-To: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:18:23 GMT

whoever it was who said that Clive's HellBound Heart and Hellraiser are not
alike.... eat your foot!!!! I like both equally well, the book gave me
Franks thoughts about the pleasure of being in pain... while the movie
hightened the gore....

I also truly like the concept of hell in HellRaiser, Hellbound II....
That one grossed me out more than the first...

No thinking about a plot for HB3? I cant see where PinHead would be involved
because the cybonites were turned into humans before being killed
in the second one..... BUT, they did leave it off with the feeding post
comming out of the bed Julian was killed on.... And WHO is the man with
the bugs in his beard? I haven't seen any trailers yet for this but
really am looking forward to it...

BTW, Motorhead & Anthrax helped contribute to Hellraiser 3...! <Guitar
ftpm Aug 92>

I never knew there was a House 3! I saw the first (loved it) hate the second, 
and have seen the box for the 4th but none for the 3rd..... 

I recomend The Seventh Sign..... great film! 

Terror Terry
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Hellraiser3, aliens book
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:19:15 GMT

	please, please, please, since hellraiser 3 comes out today (friday) in
most areas, before we see it (i know i'll be first in line =) )we must remember
clive barker had nothing to do with it- he washed his hands of the whole thing 
a while ago.  i'd just hate to find out that it's a terrible movie and have
everyone start flaming poor clive (although 2 was not quite what i was hoping, 
and he did have a lot to do with that one. but that's a different story 
altogether)
	as far as h.r.'s aliens book, ask around on rec.arts.comics or
rec.arts.sfmovies (but be prepared for some flaming on rec.arts.sfmovies, since
i think they've had their fill of alien discussion).  i've seen parts of it,
and the artwork is quite impressive.  happy hunting!

				lisa

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ~)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft/Horror Magazines/Fanzines
Organization: Intel Corp.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:34:20 GMT

In article <librik.716115700@cory.Berkeley.EDU>, librik@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David Librik) writes:
|> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
|> 
|> >Could anyone recommend any Lovecraft fanzines, or horror magazines
|> >and fanzines in general?  I'm looking for publications that showcase
|> >short stories in particular, but I'd be interested in other
|> >publications related to horror, also.  I'm aware of _Necrofile_,
|> >but no other publications.  Subscription information would be
|> >appreciated, also.  Please post to the net if possible, since I'm
|> >sure other would be interested.
|> 
|> >_Necrofile_, $10/year, critical reviews of contemporary horror
|> >Necronomicon Press
|> >101 Lockwood Street
|> >West Warwick, RI 02893
|> 
|> Uh... you mentioned Necrofile, so surely you know of THE standard journal
|> about Lovecraft: _Lovecraft Studies_, also from Necronomicon Press.  Published
|> irregularly but always fascinating (if occasionally infuriating).  They
|> also published _Studies in Weird Fiction_ which deals with other horror
|> writers.  Both are more scholarly academic journals than fanzines -- if
|> you want a fanzine, Necronomicon Press has taken over the publication of
|> _Crypt of Cthulhu_, once edited by Robert M. Price of Cryptic Publications.
|> 
|> Information on all of these -- and all the other Necronomicon Press books --
|> can be had by writing to them.
|> 
|> - David

-- 
I don't know if either of you are into playing Call of Cthulhu, but there is
an excellent supplemental gaming magazine for it called "The Unspeakable
Oath" editted by John Tynes for Pagan Publishing.  You can pick it up in any
game store.  It often includes good Lovecraftian fiction which stears clear
of the regular pastiche (sp?).
--
Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728
Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com

"Are you mental?"

	W. Campbell

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: astoker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew Stoker)
Subject: Futuristic Horror
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:13:00 GMT


Is there such a thing?  I'm quite interested in the cyberpunk genre, and I'm
wondering if there are any authors who have set horror stories in this area.

I'm afraid that as I sit here typing this, the only thing that comes to mind
is the Alien trilogy.

	Andy

P.S.  Is it just my site, or has anyone else not received any messages for
	alt.vampyres?
--
Andrew J. Stoker | "My lord, I cannot ride!"
Leicester Uni.   | "Capital, we shall give you a horse that can't be ridden."
ajs6@leicester.ac.uk   |		      ``Wyrd Sisters'', Terry Pratchett
From: ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Imajica
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:16:29 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

     Does anyone knw if Imajica is out in paperback yet?  I didn't buy it when
it came out in hardback due to lack of funds, and still haven't read it!


NR

--
ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK -- +1 405 325 9607
From: EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (Young Indy)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Witching Hour: Movie????
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:30:29 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


   Just a question to throw out to all of you. Is there talk of "The Witching
Hour" being made into a movie? I heard it from a local comic book dist. around
here. Just wondering if there is an ounce of truth to it. Thanks.

                                     -Ed

 "Don't call me a mindless           ****  ***  ***      ***** ****
  philosopher, you overweight        |   *  |  |         |     |   *
  glob of grease!"                   |***   |  |  **     ***   |   *
 -----------------------------       |   *  |  |   |     |     |   *
    EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu             ****  ***  ***      ***** ****
From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: MetaHorror
Date: 9 Sep 92 09:35:15 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <dlaird.1e98@terapin.com>, dlaird@terapin.com (Delbert Laird) writes:
> I just finished this book containing 21 short stories and was utterly disgusted
> by spending six-odd dollars on perpetual boring pieces of work.
> 
> I'm amazed that this was classified as horror.  IMHO- This *Barely* reached the
> point of being classified as horror only in that it described the human
> condition....Paranoia, fear, hatred, impovished.  To me, that only remotely
> qualifies.
> This was a recommendation from a fellow netter.  I'm sorry to say, it's
> definately not to my liking.  MetaHorror- Beyond boring (not horror).
> 
> dlaird@terapin.com

You don't mention which anthology you read.  I'd be interested in the title
.  However, I did want to question one thing you writer here.  Why is the 
"human condition" (particularly that of paranoia and fear) not appropriate 
subject matter for horror?  I guess I've always thought that this is 
precisely what makes the very best horror.  Perhaps I'm not reading you 
right?

Andrea @ BVC

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From: librik@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David Librik)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft/Horror Magazines/Fanzines
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:01:40 GMT

clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:

>Could anyone recommend any Lovecraft fanzines, or horror magazines
>and fanzines in general?  I'm looking for publications that showcase
>short stories in particular, but I'd be interested in other
>publications related to horror, also.  I'm aware of _Necrofile_,
>but no other publications.  Subscription information would be
>appreciated, also.  Please post to the net if possible, since I'm
>sure other would be interested.

>_Necrofile_, $10/year, critical reviews of contemporary horror
>Necronomicon Press
>101 Lockwood Street
>West Warwick, RI 02893

Uh... you mentioned Necrofile, so surely you know of THE standard journal
about Lovecraft: _Lovecraft Studies_, also from Necronomicon Press.  Published
irregularly but always fascinating (if occasionally infuriating).  They
also published _Studies in Weird Fiction_ which deals with other horror
writers.  Both are more scholarly academic journals than fanzines -- if
you want a fanzine, Necronomicon Press has taken over the publication of
_Crypt of Cthulhu_, once edited by Robert M. Price of Cryptic Publications.

Information on all of these -- and all the other Necronomicon Press books --
can be had by writing to them.

- David
From: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se (Johnny Schmittou EXU-T-EEG x7887 Dallas Texas USA)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: H.R. Giger's Alien
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:28:56 GMT
Reply-To: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 18J@news.cso.uiuc.edu, mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool) writes:
==>I was going to buy a book called "H.R. Giger's Alien" from the local comic
==>book shop, but it's 40 smackers and I'm cheap.  Can anyone give me a short
==>review of what's in it et cetera?  I'd just look but they sealed it up so
==>you'd have to buy it to read it.
==>	--MLM

I don't believe I've seen this exact book, but I've browsed thru some of his
hardback books in the "Arts" section of my local "Book Stop" outlet.  H.R.
Giger designed the original Alien (or at least, he drew the pictures and
someone else built the damned thing).  He is known artisticly for
his "biomechanical" hellish, nightmarish creations.  He seems to love
creating creatures that have animal/human/machine parts to them.  Some of
his work is *quite* disturbing, to say the least.  His work also tends to
have lots of erotic/sexual stuff thrown in.  He tends to work in
black and white and appears to like to use "airbrush" techniques.  All of
the stuff that I've seen has invoked quite a dark and sinister mood.

He has also created designs for other movies.  Someone correct me on this,
but didn't he do some work in "Dune" - I believe some of the actual sets?
I think he also did a lot of the spacecraft that was used in "Alien".

As for the book being worth $40, hmmm, I don't know if *I* would shell out
that much.  The ones I saw in Book Stop seemed to be around the $30 mark if
I recall correctly.  Perhaps you could ask the proprieter of the store to
open it for you, with the possibility of you buying it if you liked it.
Hey - it could happen...
___________________________________________________________________________
Internet....: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se | "Everything I say is the absolute
Real life...: Johnny Schmittou        |  Gospel...  Nah, just kidding."
Virtual life: Q-man   ---<<<I'd rather be drumming.>>>--- Dallas, Texas USA
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Jacobs Ladder
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:01:59 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <sprooney.716137638@unix1.tcd.ie> sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
>
>>I saw the trailer for Hellraiser III, Im looking forward to that!
>I saw a trailer for it too... it could be fun, but I don't like the
>sound of it. Esp. this change in music... I love metal, but it's not
>the Hellraiser style. If the entire film has change in that kind of
>way, getting the Freddy-and-Jason syndrome, will it be worth it? It
>would have lost all its originality. Well, we can always prey.
>
>MNSio

	My opinion is that Hellraiser III will simply be a vehicle for
Pinhead's and Barker's popularity.  Expect the Freddy-and-Jason syndrome.
I'm just hoping that there will be some nice Hellraiseresque touches to
make it worth my time.  Don't go in expecting anything like the first two,
however.

					IMHO,
						Ray
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ~)
Subject: Re: H.R. Giger's Alien
Organization: Intel Corp.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:29:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.172856.13650@exu.ericsson.se>, exujsch@exu.ericsson.se (Johnny Schmittou EXU-T-EEG x7887 Dallas Texas USA) writes:
|> In article 18J@news.cso.uiuc.edu, mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool) writes:
|> ==>I was going to buy a book called "H.R. Giger's Alien" from the local comic
|> ==>book shop, but it's 40 smackers and I'm cheap.  Can anyone give me a short
|> ==>review of what's in it et cetera?  I'd just look but they sealed it up so
|> ==>you'd have to buy it to read it.
|> ==>	--MLM
|> 
|> I don't believe I've seen this exact book, but I've browsed thru some of his
|> hardback books in the "Arts" section of my local "Book Stop" outlet.  H.R.
|> Giger designed the original Alien (or at least, he drew the pictures and
|> someone else built the damned thing).  He is known artisticly for
|> his "biomechanical" hellish, nightmarish creations.  He seems to love
|> creating creatures that have animal/human/machine parts to them.  Some of
|> his work is *quite* disturbing, to say the least.  His work also tends to
|> have lots of erotic/sexual stuff thrown in.  He tends to work in
|> black and white and appears to like to use "airbrush" techniques.  All of
|> the stuff that I've seen has invoked quite a dark and sinister mood.
|> 
|> He has also created designs for other movies.  Someone correct me on this,
|> but didn't he do some work in "Dune" - I believe some of the actual sets?
|> I think he also did a lot of the spacecraft that was used in "Alien".
|> 
|> As for the book being worth $40, hmmm, I don't know if *I* would shell out
|> that much.  The ones I saw in Book Stop seemed to be around the $30 mark if
|> I recall correctly.  Perhaps you could ask the proprieter of the store to
|> open it for you, with the possibility of you buying it if you liked it.
|> Hey - it could happen...
|> ___________________________________________________________________________
|> Internet....: exujsch@exu.ericsson.se | "Everything I say is the absolute
|> Real life...: Johnny Schmittou        |  Gospel...  Nah, just kidding."
|> Virtual life: Q-man   ---<<<I'd rather be drumming.>>>--- Dallas, Texas USA

-- 
Actually, Giger works in a special technique using indigo ink on some
sort of rice paper.  What appears to be airbrushing is actually where he
has scratched away microscopic layers of the ink until he achieves the
right shade.  We own Giger's "Biomechanics," and I believe that is where
he explains his unique artistic medium.  Also, he is a profound occultist,
which is why his arts contains so many strong sexual/spiritist images,
particularly involving women.  I find that his "Necronomicon" is not quite
as disturbing as "Biomechanics."
--
Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728
Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com

"It bit his head off--like a GINGERBREAD man!"

	From Beyond
From: dlaird@terapin.com (Delbert Laird)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Futuristic Horror
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:24:37 PST
Organization: BBS

As far as futuristic horror, the RPG Dark Conspiracy by GDW is exactly what you
described...As with other RPG's, GDW has decided to support authors by allowing
them to use the game setting for their stories...

I believe that there are two books out now, one of which is called "Evil
Ascending" by Michael A. Stackpole 1-55878-099-8 (Note: it is the second book
of the Fiddleback Tilogy).

dlaird@terapin.com
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: david.vaughan@rose.com (david vaughan)
Subject: REVIEW: Dan Simmons
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 08:46:05 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 09-13-92 03:39
I have been reading a lot of Dan Simmons lately, so here are my 
comments on a couple of his recent books.

PRAYERS FOR BROKEN STONES
Bantam Books
ISBN 0-553-29665-5
Paperback

This collection amply illustrates why Simmons is so highly regarded in 
the fields of horror/s-f/fantasy.  He is, in short, an extremely good 
writer with some interesting ideas to play with.  Contained within are 
a baker's dozen pieces of short fiction.  They include the roots of 
two of his most famous novels: 'Remembering Siri' (basis for 
'Hyperion'), and the original short story 'Carrion Comfort'.  It also 
includes two very wicked jabs at TV religion, a couple meditations on 
the brutality of war, and the banality of our remembrances of it, and 
his classic cancer horror 'Metastasis', along with a screenplay he 
adapted from it for the 'Monsters' anthology TV series.  Worth every 
penny and then some.


CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT
Novel
(Sorry, don't have it handy for the publisher info)

Simmons has dealt with vampirism, in various forms, in a number of 
works.  This novel is an expansion of his short story 'Dracula's 
Children' which appeared in Byron Preiss' The Ultimate Dracula.  In 
it, he develops an extremely sophisticated, completely naturalistic 
explanation for vampirism based on the discoveries about immunology 
and retroviruses arising from AIDS related research.  This is, to an 
extent, a downfall, since this leads to a certain slowness in the 
early third of the novel as doctors study a Romanian orphan whose 
immune system is subject to strange waxes and wanes.  For much of 
this part of the novel, the characters banter on about T-cells, and 
ADA, and SCID, and HIV, and so on. However, after the child is 
kidnapped by his real family, and his adoptive mother, Dr. Kat Neumann 
takes off in pursuit, the story picks up.  It turns out that Romania 
is secretly controlled by an ancient family of vampires, ruled for the 
last 500 years by Vlad Dracula (who, in one scene, contemptuously 
picks Stoker to bits).  Neumann finds herself and the priest who aids
 her are caught up in a web of intrigues both between the Family and 
their enemies, and among the vampires themselves.  More of an s-f 
actioner than a horror story, but does have some good suspense, and 
chillers.   The interludes where Dracula reminisces about 
his life are interesting, especially since all are drawn 
quite faithfully from Radu Floresu and Ray McNally's work 
on Vlad.  Recommended, but not as highly as PRAYERS...

David Vaughan
Hamilton, Ont., Canada
david.vaughan@rose.com
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   RoseMail 2.00 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363
From: cs65+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chiara Noelle Sposato)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Nightbreed (was Re: Looking for Hellraiser info)
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:03:54 GMT
	<1992Sep3.155954.29980@athena.mit.edu>
Organization: Junior, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

i thought the movie was good but i did go and buy the book to read the
short story after i saw the movie. the novella is excelent. i think many
parts of the movie glossed over aspects of the novella that were very
interesting --it explained the ideas and concepts much better (the
ending was MUCH better). however the movie is not completely a waste of
time (IMO) ithe special effects alone were wonderful and they helped me
to realy visualize the charaters from the novella. the movie did however
grasp one of the key concepts--that what man doesnt understand, he
destroys.

chiara
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Back from HR3
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:33:19 GMT

over all, I agree with you.
I enjoyed the movie a lot, but I do have some complaints,
  1,  The actress who played (whatever her name was) the main character
      I felt was a little weak.
  2,  The new Centobites were too silly.  Not thier appearance, that was great
      but they acted a little too "human".  They weren't as powerful as the
      other Centobites.
Still, it's a great movie.  Go see it.
                                              ->Spice
From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Imajica
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 14:16:36 GMT

In article <7PJyqB4w165w@wuntvor.norman.ok.us>, ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven) writes:
 >      Does anyone knw if Imajica is out in paperback yet?  I didn't buy it when
 > it came out in hardback due to lack of funds, and still haven't read it!
 > 
 > 
 > NR
 > 
 > --
 > ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
 > The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK -- +1 405 325 9607

Sure enough, it's out in paperback.  I found it in paperback here in Norway 
some time this spring (or possibly early summer), so it must have been out a 
while--this country isn't exactly the first place new releases hit the stores...

IMHO:  Great book.  Buy.  Read.  Lose sleep.  Enjoy.

Leif the .sigless
From: z_hiltoncc@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: recommendation -- Batman:  Gothic
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:47:05 CST
Distribution: alt
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Sep8.033254.9357@nmsu.edu>, pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:
> Just got a new Batman graphic novel, which I think readers of this
> group might enjoy.  As the subject line says, it's called ``Gothic.''
> 
> For that matter, another one that I'm sure people here would like, is
> called ``Arkham Asylum:  a Serious Place on Serious Earth.''  This one
> is on much higher quality paper than any of the others, and is also
> very good for generating nightmares...
> 
> -Joe.

"Arkham Asylum" is very good.  I think it was written by Grant Morrison, who
also does (or did) a series called "Doom Patrol."  Both are great if you're
into the vagueries of insanity and such.  Did that make sense?  I'm not sure.
Of anything.  Heehee!

C.Hilton

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