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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: Al Davis Rule? 
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:50:58 GMT

eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
||>What is this deal with the free agency when a player can't sign with whoever
||>he wants? I heard today during the Cowboy game that a player can't sign with
||>the final four teams (i.e. the teams in the AFC/NFC Championship games). I
||>guess what they mean is that certain players can't sign with those times 
||>(Reggie White to San Francisco). This is ridiculous! The NBA or MLB have no
||>such restrictions. It is not a fair rule at all. Once again it is restricted
||>free agency.

skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:
|>This will be known as the Al Davis rule. What a crock of shit, this move 
|>was done to keep Reggie White from Dallas and San Fran. If you notice on 
|>the post game show on NBC Davis did mention that the Cowboys and Niners 
|>could not get Reggie but his beloved asswipes the Raiders could. It's ok, 
|>Dallas wouldn't give up the money our disrupt the defense we have for him.
|>It really is sad that this washed up old acidhead from the 60's can still 
|>affect the rules of the game in the 90's.

usa today's discussion of the "rule" termed it the "Rooney provision."  in
honor of the steeler gm(?) who created it ... and apparently led the push
to see its implementation.

james

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From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: Buffalo Congrats--Hey Vikings..Get Reich!!!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:39:24 GMT

In article <5127@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@gte.com writes:
>I am not a Bill's fan - I'm more of a Bill's detractor.  
>
>Nevertheless, the Bills staged the greatest comeback in the history of
>pro football yesterday, and I just wanted to say Congratulations.
>They were truly awesome in the second half, and they deserved to win.
>
>As a personal aside, I think that Frank Reich is a better team
>quarterback than Jim Kelly.  Kelly has more talent, but I think he's
>less patient, and more emotional and that he's more likely to get
>flustered under pressure.  I honestly believe that the Bills would 
>have lost yesterday if Kelly had been playing.

Hey Vikings fans,
In light on Reich's performance on Sunday, and the Non-performance of
the Vikes non-QB's, I think the vikes should have Frank Reich on the top
of their QB shopping list.

Congrats to the Bills from an anti-Bills fan!

------------------------------------
J.R. Ordon
GO VIKES!!--GO FREE AGENCY--GO DRAFT!!
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hamish
Date: 7 Jan 93 07:04:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan7.014851.19390@leland.Stanford.EDU>, paladin@leland.Stanford.
EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.233812.10187@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu (
Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>>Why don't you go suck some cock, with the rest of the
>>120 pound AIDS stricken homo's who play soccer.
>>
>>--
>>Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)
>>
>>The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
>
>Congratulations.  You may just be the biggest asshole on this newsgroup.
>A notable feat.
>I didn't quite believe that the macho loser from Southern California
>actually existed.  I thought it was just a caricature.  Thanks for
>clearing that up.
>I suppose you don't eat quiche, either.
>
>Jason Gische
>

I'd have to agree here.  We can ignore ignorant asshole brits who haven't won
a real war without us helping them, but soccer players are hardly 120 lb AIDS
carrying homos.  They should be respected for their athletic ability just as
much as any professional athlete.  Let's face it, they have a skill and they
use it to their advantage.  If their skill was being wimpy little faggots,
they wouldn't be playing soccer, they'd be selling their services on the
streets of San Francisco.
-- 

Tom Schmidlin
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU
215-758-0875
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From: jmelcher@polisci.umn.edu (James Melcher)
Subject: Re: NFC Playoffs show restructure necessary?
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:24:54 GMT

In article <1ichg9INNkm4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> fins@radgumbo.Eng.Sun.COM (Rich Schiavi) writes:

>With 3 of the 4 final teams coming from the NFC East (which seems to
>be a fairly frequent occurance. . ) has anyone heard any talk of 
>restructuring the conferences the way they should be.  I.E. Dallas
>and New Orleans should be in the Central. Phoenix in the West.
>Tampa Bay and Atlanta in the East.  I think that about covers it.
>The Niners will still have no talent to go against swapping Phoenix
>for New Orleans, but it does beef up the Central and tame the East a bit.


I don't mean to nitpick here, but you'd have to shift some other teams 
around as well to have reasonably balanced #s in each division.  So far, it 
looks like you have:

West:  Phoenix, LA Rams, SF (3)
Central:  Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Dallas, NO (6)
East:  TB, Atlanta, NY, Philadelphia, Washington(5)

For geographical reasons-as opposed to this year's outcomes- I would agree 
with some of the basic thrust of this, though.  How about swapping 
Phoenix for Atlanta, for starters? 
Just a thought,
Jim Melcher
Univ. of Minnesota 
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From: kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: Analysis of Eagles vs Cowboys 
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:49:37 GMT

douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin) writes:
>>Having given up 160 yards
>>to Emmit last game, the Eagles are almost sure to contain him this time.  I
>>don't think people realize that Emmit has never done well against the Eagles
>>until the last game.  Finally, one has to wonder,

>Your deduction:
>  Emmit ran for over 160 yards in the last game, therefore he will not
>  do well in the next game and has never done well agains the Eagles.
>Oh I see ... geessshhh
>Look, I will listen to reason, but looking at these four lines I have to
>consider whether your post contains any.

Okay, real slow now: when preparing for the upcoming game, which tape would
_you_ study the most.

Please, oh, please, let Dallas plan to run against us.

On a realist note, when the Eagles beat Dallas, I noticed that Harper
and Irvin were doubled (or at least had major safety help) but Eric 
Allen was on Novachek (sp?).  Is there any discussion in the Philly press 
about this defensive game plan?  It seems brilliant for an obvious 
passing down but seems weak against the run....
--
Kevin Schnitzius                         Eagles -- Not America's Team, 
kschnitzius@encore.com                             they're better than that.
From: chf0@bunny.gte.com (Curt Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Congratulations to Buffalo
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:03:16 GMT
Reply-To: chf0@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

I am not a Bill's fan - I'm more of a Bill's detractor.  

Nevertheless, the Bills staged the greatest comeback in the history of
pro football yesterday, and I just wanted to say Congratulations.
They were truly awesome in the second half, and they deserved to win.

As a personal aside, I think that Frank Reich is a better team
quarterback than Jim Kelly.  Kelly has more talent, but I think he's
less patient, and more emotional and that he's more likely to get
flustered under pressure.  I honestly believe that the Bills would 
have lost yesterday if Kelly had been playing.

The Bills deserve the win - Congratulations.

And to the Oilers - I suggest an exorcism to remove the curse that has
plagued your team the whole season.  How many last minute letdowns can
one team stand?

And wouldn't it be fitting for the AFC Championship game to be Miami
vs Buffalo at Joe Robbie Stadium?  Not to take anything away from
Pittsburgh or San Diego, but with the year being the way it has been,
I think this would be a fitting end to the season.

Come to Miami, Buffalo!  We need one more game to settle this year!

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions




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From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to enter the draft
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1993Jan6.131516.8720@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:31:43 GMT

Sorry, I messed this one up big time.  I was refering to Ohio State's Robert 
Smith who was mentioned as a junior.  I think Harper (Roger?) is also coming 
out early from OSU.

Paul
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From: rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary)
Subject: Madden is a REAL Idiot.
Reply-To: rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary)
Organization: 8-Track Museum of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:33:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.233630.2247@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>, 
marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall) writes:
|> In article <C0Couw.GLI@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu
|> > (S. Hariharan ) writes:
|> >I used to like to listen to John "MAD" den before, but not
|> >anymore.  As long as he sticks to the chalk board it is
|> >OK, but it gets irrittating when he goes on rambling endlessly
|> >on some silly and unconnected things like a total idiot.
|> 
|> Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I can see that some people
|> could get irritated by Madden's style, but personally I *love* to listen
|> to him. Who would you rather listen to, Dick Vermeil? Or John Robinson?
|> Fortunately, it looks like Robinson is returning to USC, so I'll be
|> spared from having to listen to him in the future.
|> 
|> Anyway, Madden's ramblings about things not connected to the game
|> are a pleasant diversion (IMHO) from the constant over-analysis and
|> speculation that we are subjected by other announcers (in particular
|> Joe Theisman on ESPN). Give me Madden any time.
|> 
|> =============================================================================
|> Bob Marshall                     \\     "Women aren't as smart as they


My wife and I have a name for the "special" remote button.  It's called the
Madden-mute.  I rest my case.

Thank God the Steelers are shown on NBC most of the time.


ROCKO

"I was a STEELER fan back when Rocky was in Nam, and Rush was in Pittsburgh."
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Who am I?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 21:12:02 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  I'm the only coach in history to go straight 
  from the White House to the outhouse!

  Who am I?

  email for the answer!

  bill

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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: YO for MO
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:28:48 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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In article <27000206@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> divitt@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mark Divitt) writes:
>
>>Washington Redskins will attempt to trade Wilbur Marshall and Alvin
>>Walton for Steve Young of San Frisco.

You might think again, how are you going to trade two free agents ?????

tim
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: Reich DOES it again and Sharpe is slighted
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:16:35 GMT
Keywords: comebacks

In article <1ifhs0INN99t@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>In article <1ifdeuINN65b@rodan.UU.NET> smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield) writes:
>>>11/10/84 31 pts  Maryland 42, Miami 40 (41-0, 12:35 left in 3rd Q)
>>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I didn't think it was possible for a team to lose points... 8-)
>>
>>And I think you meant 41-10, 12:35 left in 3rd
>>
>   Well then, Steve, they would have lost points. I think you meant 31-0,
>   12:35 left in the third. :)
>
>   Regardless, I always thought Reich was a hell of a backup and his 
>   wonderful second-half performance against Houston did nothing to
>   dispell that.
>
>   So, was anyone else disappointed that Sterling Sharpe was voted to be
>   the 4th best offensive player. Shit, the guy has one of the best years
>   by a receiver (if not the best) in the history of the game and he's

Certainly depends on how you determine "the best year".  In any case,
Sharpe had a great year with the Pack.  BTW, does anyone know if 
Art Monk won NFL Offensive Player of the Year when he caught 106?
I know Rice didn't when he caught 100 (he got it the year he caught
22 touchdown passes in 12 games).

>   still 4th best this year. It shows just how much market size and team
>   success has to do with these votes. This of course isn't taking away

Probably true.

>   from the tremendous seasons Young and Smith had. 
>
>   --salty
>
>
From: tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steve Young bashing
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:05:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: cairo

bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason) writes:
> 
> I can't believe the criticism that Young has received from 9er
> fans on this group...

Here are a few comments about the Montana/Young issue that haven't
been widely talked about or reported in the press.

Young is a clean-living Mormon, and I think that has damaged his
public image around here, as well as his standing on the team.  This
is a religion that considers black people inferior, yet three of his
offensive lineman are black, and one is Samoan.  Roy Foster wore a
Malcolm X hat on a TV interview.  Young rooms with (or roomed with)
Brent Jones on the road, his only white receiver.  Now I'm not saying
Young himself is racist or anything.  He seems like a nice guy, and
I was somewhat surprised to hear Ronnie Lott state this season that
Bono deserved to be the starter (how would he know?).  Montana had,
or seemed to have had, a smooth relationship with most everybody on
the team, including notoriously difficult Charles Haley.  By contrast,
the relationship betwen Young and Jerry Rice seems strained, perhaps
because Rice missed training camp.  But Mormonism may play a role.

By the time Montana was Young's age, he had already been married three
times.  Bay area women seem to be extremely enamored of Montana.  You
see Montana posters on office walls all over, hardly ever placed there
by men.  I've never seen any similar displays for Steve Young, nor do
I expect them in years to come.  Young is good-looking, perhaps even
better looking than Montana, but still single.  Why?  As a Mormon he
could have several wives by now.  Is he too sloppy?

Young suffers from what Cowboys fans will recognize as the Danny White
syndrome.  Young is a good quarterback in his own right, perhaps even
better than Danny White, but he has the misfortune to follow a living
legend, just as White followed Staubach.  Just think what'll happen if
the Cowboys beat the 49ers this week and become the dynasty of the 90s.
It could be The Catch all over again, with the Cowboys retiring Michael
Irvin's number.

The only other Mormon quarterback who stuck for a while in the NFL was
Marc Wilson of the LA Raiders, right?  He never seemed to be popular
with his teammates.  Stabler could drink any player under the table,
Wilson could drink Mormon tea, so it was quite a contrast.

SF does not deserve the 49ers.  You see how bad Candlestick is, even
the college stadium at Stanford is better.  Also, SF is a city where
opera is a big social event.  What more can I say?  Randy Cross accused
SF fans of sipping white wine and eating Brie cheese instead of yelling.
If the football gods were fair, SF would be forced to trade teams with
a town that has great fans who appreciate football, like Green Bay.  So
when 49er fans denigrate Steve Young, it's just a sign of inadequacy.

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From: vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov)
Subject: Re: Blackout in Buffalo
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:23:41 GMT

In <1993Jan5.215025.3201@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.195704.9298@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, sbs9276@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes...

>>      The Bills drew 75000+ fans-- the most of any team in the
>>NFL playoffs last weekend only to get blacked out and the NFL
>>will NOT sell the rights of the game to local TV stations to show
>>it in its entirety. So the NFL instead has made a 1 hr. highlight
>>film it is selling in this area (no kidding) to the local TV
>>stations. And boy am I glad I saw it in person (and have
>>relatives in Chicago who taped it!).
>> 
>>      Oh yeah-- the Bills are the 2nd smallest TV market in the NFL.
>>Anyone know the smallest? Denver? Cleveland?

>Ah, I think that would be Green Bay -- by a mile.

>JGH
Not only was the game blacked out in the Buffalo area, but in Ontario
as well. Because Southern Ontario (Toronto, Hamilton) and the Ottawa
area get their feeds from Buffalo and Rochester respectively, the
bastards at NFL punished about 10 million Canadians as well. And let
me tell you I was pissed off about missing perhaps the greatest game
ever (but how would I know - I didn't see it!!!!!!!), right up there
with the SD-Miami game. Anyhow I think SF (scumbags) will beat San
Diego in the Superbowl.
                                                  Vlad the Impaler
From: grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers/Redskins - Matt Millen Interview
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:35:51 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: beirut.berkeley.edu

dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok) wrote:
>2) How well the 49ers stop Redskins defensive end James (Jumpy) Geathers.
>That formidable task will go to the troika of Roy Foster, Guy McIntyre
>and Jesse Sapolu.  During the Redskins' wild-card victory against
>Minnesota, Geathers had four sacks.  "Jumpy Geathers", says Millen,
>"is probably the best in the league at what he does: collapsing the
>offensive pocket."

Jumpy Geathers did not have 4 sacks during the Minnesota game.

Fred Stokes had 3, 3 1/2 or 4 sacks (depending upon source) in that game.

Jon
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From: chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Congratulations to Buffalo
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:49:23 GMT

In article <5127@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@gte.com writes:
>I am not a Bill's fan - I'm more of a Bill's detractor.  
>
>Nevertheless, the Bills staged the greatest comeback in the history of
>pro football yesterday, and I just wanted to say Congratulations.
>They were truly awesome in the second half, and they deserved to win.
>
>As a personal aside, I think that Frank Reich is a better team
>quarterback than Jim Kelly.  Kelly has more talent, but I think he's
>less patient, and more emotional and that he's more likely to get
>flustered under pressure.  I honestly believe that the Bills would 
>have lost yesterday if Kelly had been playing.

   I agree.  Kelly has had an awful year.  I am surprised that he was the
starter all year because he was not throwing with precision.  All year
it has been Kelly to Thomas.  At least Reich finally paid attention to
Reed and Beebe....something that has been missing all year.

>
>The Bills deserve the win - Congratulations.
>
>And to the Oilers - I suggest an exorcism to remove the curse that has
>plagued your team the whole season.  How many last minute letdowns can
>one team stand?
>
>And wouldn't it be fitting for the AFC Championship game to be Miami
>vs Buffalo at Joe Robbie Stadium?  Not to take anything away from
>Pittsburgh or San Diego, but with the year being the way it has been,
>I think this would be a fitting end to the season.
>
>Come to Miami, Buffalo!  We need one more game to settle this year!

  Ah hell, do you really want to start up the Buffalo/Miami net-fighting
again?     :)

>
>Curt
>
>Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
>			DOLFAN in New England.             
>'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
>'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions
>

Chris   a Bills fan
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From: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM (Kenneth Melcher)
Subject: Re: Greatest Moment
Reply-To: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:54:25 GMT

In article 1ia5vgINNqao@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu, skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.174932.18395@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
>
>>Which event would y'all vote for as "the greatest moment" in
>>your favorite franchise's history?
>
>Dallas Cowboys:
>The day we traded Hershal Walker.
                   ^^^^^^^
                 Spell much?

Anyway,  any fan of a team with five super bowl appearances and two super bowl wins who considers that team's greatest moment to be a trade must also think that the C-Pokes have a chance against the Eagles!

Go Boids!!!!

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From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: Re: Musburger, another ass
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:15:58 GMT

In article <C0IsD3.8Dz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason) writes:
> Iknow that this complaint doesn't have as much to do with football,
> but . . . .
> 
> At one point, Musburger was talking about the ABC line-up following
> the game, "America's Funniest Home Videos" blah blah and some Amy
> Fisher movie.  Brent then says, "I'd like to see her funniest home
> videos."
> 
> Not only a football dipshit but a social outcast and fuckwad.
> 
     Gary, what do you expect of someone who jumped ship in a perfect
position at another network to start at the start with another network,
calling little league world series games and other such second rate
sports, all the while attempting to make it seem as though the fate of
the free world rests upon whether or not little Billy can knock the cover
off of a fastball thrown by a twenty year old.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Gary Beason    			      
> Purdue University
> bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu

Kevin L. Stamber
Purdue University

COWHER POWER!

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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Re: Thank you Miami Dolphins !!!
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:10:18 GMT

In article <1iqokiINNeto@titan.ucc.umass.edu> krs@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Karl R. Stapelfeldt) writes:
>
>    What a pleasant and unusual circumstance.  On my birthday, my
>favorite football team wins their playoff game in convincing style.
>I turned 31 years old today, and the Dolphins scored 31 points in my
>honor.  What more can a fan ask for?
>

That you turn 54 next Sunday.

Tony (go buffalo) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
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