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From: stuav2@admin.acadiau.ca (STUDENT ASST AV2)
Subject: Re: The Inner Light
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:35:22 GMT

In article <1drbq9INNh88@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> coleman@kirkland.East.Sun.COM (Rob Coleman -- Sun East Coast IR Development) writes:
>From: coleman@kirkland.East.Sun.COM (Rob Coleman -- Sun East Coast IR Development)
>Subject: The Inner Light
>Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:19:21 GMT
>Last night I saw the episode "The Inner Light" for the first time.  I not
>certain what season it was from (no doubt someone here will post).  
>
>For anyone who has not seen "The Inner Light", it is one of the best
>shows I've seen.  Highly immaginative story.  A 10.
>
>
>Rob
>
>
I totally agree with you!!!  You'll hear some who people who will complain 
that TNG has become too tame.  Well that's fine as long as the element of 
imagination isn't lost in a show such as this.  "The Inner Light" was a 
wonderful example of the importance of discovering qualities in oneself 
which either we fail at first to recognize or refuse to recognize at all.  
Picard more times that not comes across as a completely one-dimensional 
character.  It was about time that he had begun to "live" even though it 
really wasn't his life strictly speaking.  "the Inner Light" is definately 
my favorite of the TNG series and it's gonna take quite a good episode to 
knock it down to number 2!  Incidently,  I saw "A Fistful of Datas" last 
night and seeing Picard playing his flute was ,if you will pardon my 
sappiness, "heartwarming" 

            					Mike Caines
						Acadia University
						stuav2@admin.acadiau.ca
From: batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: NOT NEW BUT... (The Drumhead)
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:47:28 GMT

In 'The Drumhead' the rampaging ex-Admiral observes that Picard has
violated the Prime Directive nine times since becoming the captain
of the Enterprise. Does anyone know if this is accurate to the
episodes, or just a ball park figure? Do some episodes constitute more
than one violation (e.g. Pen Pals)?

What does everyone think?

Mad Chris.
From: drue@citi.umich.edu (Chris Tanis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: re: Vulcan actress and Worf's mate
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:21:43 GMT
Organization: IFS Project, University of Michigan
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Watch Love and War on Monday nights to see Susie Plakson
minus the alien make-up.  


-- 
Chris Tanis
drue@ifs.umich.edu 
Center for Information Technology Integration
The University of Michigan      Ann Arbor, MI  48103
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "The Quality of Life"
Keywords: TNG, Data, machine life?
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:25:49 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

ALSO crossposted to r.a.s.tech!

In <trussell.722448759@cwis> trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
>tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
Spoilers for the TNG episode "The Quality Of Life"...

>>--Just how complicated, in TNG's time, can something be before it can no 
>>longer be replicated?  So far as we know, living tissue can't; yet life and 
>>intelligence are kept intact in the transporter (barring the 
>>every-third-episode accident, of course).  Could a virus?  A bacterium?  A 
>>protozoan?  A multicellular animal?  An exocomp?  

>    My understanding was that the difference between replicators and
>transporters is that replicators don't have the high resolution required
>to store the sub-atomic patterns required for life.

I don't grok this.  Why do they even use replicators for many things, then?
The transporter is just a souped-up replicator by your argument.  And
before someone comes up with a cost/need argument, transporters clearly aren't
terribly expensive since they have them on shuttlecraft and in some cargo
bays.  Surely they could spare one for the holodeck, and surely there would be
scientists out there working feverishly to create life with transporters.  But
we never hear about any of this.  It doesn't compute.

>							Don't have my ST:TNG
>Technical Reference Manual with me at work (some trekkie I am! :)) so I
>don't know the lingo they used, but that's the gist of it.  Hence,
>machines and completely inanimate objects (even Data?  Hmm...) can be
>replicated, but even one-celled animals can't.

Except that food replicators can create organic matter.  Why, then, can't they
create *living* organic matter?

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"...I guess I'd rather have mediocre Star Trek then none at all."
				- A friend, about the ST:TNG episode "Legacy"
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From: naomib@sco.COM (Mirabelle Severn & Thames)
Subject: Why do women like beards?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:41:19 GMT


In article <By5zs1.H4s@iai.kfk.de> seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
>What I'd like to know: why is it that so many women like beards (or, better)
>men with beards? Maybe I should let one grow ... :-)

>dave

Because they smell incredible!

Naomi

(Yes, it's only my opinion; and no, it's not humble.)

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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: SPOILEReview: "The Quality of Life"
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:33:56 GMT

jsnell@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jason Snell) writes:


>Unfortunately, this argument drives me crazy. I don't
>see the parallel between this show and "Measure of a Man"
>as much as I see it with "Evolution" -- a bunch of little
>computerized things, relatively primative, are being
>weighed against human beings. And in my mind, human
>beings win. You don't swerve to miss a racoon on the
>road if there's a ravine next to the road, because if
>you've got to pick between you and the racoon, YOU win.
>In my opinion, anyway.


I agree 100%...I thought it would have been much more believable had Ryker,
once he realized that Data was _not_ going to comply, temporarily relieved
him of duty and used one of those nifty "Ryker, Wil Omega 882719209 Zed Zed"
master override commands the writers like so much.  It would have been better
to sacrifice the fireplugs (and come on, weren't they just a little _too_
cute?), save Picard and Geordi, then spend the last ten minutes in Picard's
ready room with the Captain trying to decide whether Data gets run in for
insubordination, Wil gets run in for causing the death of an innocent lifeform,
or if Beverly will look cuter as a brunette.


-- Andy Ihnatko
   andyi@world.std.com
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Vulcan actress and Worf's mate
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:15:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <75116@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4278b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jensulu) writes:
>Frank Sereno commented in his last post (sorry, I'm new at this and don't
>know how to do a follow-up) that he thought the actress who played Dr.
>Selar (the Vulcan Doctor from "The Schizoid Man") and Worf's mate K'eyhler(sp)
>are one and the same.
>
>Absolutely correct.  The actress is Suzie Plackson.  (See the recent TV Guide.)
>
I also understand that she is in the CBS sit-com Love and War this season
(follow Murphy Brown on Monday night).  I don't watch it, so I haven't noticed.


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From: virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Paul Virgo)
Subject: Fistful of Datas?...Why not, "Dirty Data"?
Summary: who need this?
Keywords: who needs these?
Organization: Metters Industries, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:37:55 GMT


I REALLY enjoyed "Fistful of Datas" and I thought to myself,"Since they're
making what seems to be a homage to those Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns,
too bad they couldn't do an episode whereas they recreate a 'Dirty Harry'
scenario". I could just see Data in this one:

"This is a 0.44 caliber handgun,referred to in terminology as a Magnum. It 
is rumored to be a weapon of extreme power and capable velocity. It is also
rumored to be able to sever the human skull with surgical precision. Now, the
question at hand is, do you feel that the odds are in your favor..punk?"

Yeah,yeah, I forgot about the shots--but you get the idea. Troi or Worf could
be one of his partners(and we ALL know what happens to Dirty Harry's partners).

okay--well, the cocoa is settling down--ramble mode off...

d.j. NetBoy
-- 

d.j. NetBoy
Metters Industries
Arlington, VA 22202
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Subject: Re: Beards vs. Make-up
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:28:59 -0600
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current,soc.men,soc.women
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <By5zs1.H4s@iai.kfk.de>, seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner)
wrote:
> 
> That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
> hide something, they don't want to "show their face". 

Nonsense.  Having a beard simply makes life easier and more comfortable
for me.  Shaving is literally a pain.  EOT.
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: A Fistful of Datas best line
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:21:52 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Nov22.181917.46708@fourd.com> Ira_J._Seskin@fourd.com writes:

>>>I think this show also showcased some of Brent's acting talents.  Remember
>thePeter Sellers' movies where everyone in the show is played by him?  <<
> 
>Pamela...That was " The Mouse That Roared". I am impressed. Even though it IS
>a classic movie, I expect that  was "before" most of the users of this echo's
>time!

Peter Sellers also played three roles in Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove,
which we all should be familiar with.  Probably the funniest black comedy
ever made.

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Subject: Re: Intros...is there a point?
From: jsv@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Julian Visch)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:33:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Canterbury

In article <1992Nov20.211138.10971@mail.cornell.edu>, Michael Scott Shappe <Michael-S-Shappe@cornell.edu> writes:
|> As some are bound to have noticed, the Weekly and Monthly intros have
|> stopped. The initial cessation of posting was due to a bug, but I have
|> not seen fit to correct it. Why? Because no one seems to have noticed! 
|> 
|> So, what do y'all think? Are there enough periodical postings already, or
|> should the Intros return?
|> 
|> Uncle Mikey
|> mss1@cornell.edu

Do please keep sending them
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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Quality of Life *SPOILERS*
Summary: Worf finally beats somebody up! 
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:38:57 GMT



Finally Worf beats someone up!

And it turns out to be the good doctor.  He probably did it
to get back at her `poker bet' that the men would shave 
their beards if they lost and that she'd become 
a brunette if she lost. 

Comments from anyone on which side you'd have win that bet?

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From: halabe@andersen.uucp (Dan Halabe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: The Riker Manuver
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:23:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: andersen.halabe.722121802
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

This is one of the more annoying affectations of the number-one-swagger:
After he steps into a turbo-lift, he spins around *real fast*, sets his jaw,
and sort-of cocks his head.

I think it was worse in the earlier seasons.  Its annoying, but I must admit,
it impressed the group of strangers I took my last elevator ride with.
From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fist Full of Datas question (small spoiler)
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:25:55 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Nov15.070243.6934@wuecl.wustl.edu>, msg1@cec2.wustl.edu (Michael Scott Groner) writes:
> 
> Small spoiler...
> 
> 
> 















> 	I really did enjoy this episode for its comedy, but there is one small
> point that keeps getting at me.  Did I miss something or why did Worf not use
> his communicator to call out for help???
> 
> Michael Groner
> msg1@cec2.wustl.edu
> Washington University - St Louis, Mo

Actually, Troi did....remember?  She called for security, which is hilarious,
because Worf IS security.

I also liked Worf's line to Alexander,'Oh, so we are in law enforcement...'

-Pamela Cho-
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From: puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: Saturday Night Review "The Quality of Life" SPOILERS!
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:04:38 GMT

 satch@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Victor Corbin) writes:

><1992Nov21.192524.369@rivers> says
>>Steven.K.Manfred says he'd give it a 9.3
>
>A 9.3. A 9.3 What was this guy thinking.  This was buy far the cheesyest 
>episode of STTNG.  And really bad cheese at that.  It had many of the chedder
>qualities of STOS except they had an excuse. They time period. Don't get me 
>wrong TOS was good.  Unlike "The Quality of Life."
>
>I think should take a good look at who he calls good actors and actresses.
>The woman who played the docter was awful.  She couldn't act to save her life.
>She a potentionally good episode sound like a cross between a bad commercial 
>and "The Brady Bunch"  "When my reactor core breaks down I use one of these,
>The Exo-Comp. Its fast easy and there's no messy clup"  What the Hell!
>
>I Give this episode a capital "R" for Rotten Cheese

Too kind. I give your ability to type a coherent sentence a 0.

-- 
(Puter is a deranged individual at puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com)
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: myempire (Matt J. Martin)
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:20:29 GMT

In article <BxvFp6.B9F@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:

(Something in reply to somebody else)

Please, take it to email.  This has nothing to do with current Star
Trek.
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: The Quality of Life
Date: 19 Nov 1992 19:37:07 GMT
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In article <BxyCLJ.JGp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) writes:
> >odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
> >
> >>  - The return of the double neon-tubed bench thingy, seen in darn near every
> >>    lab in TNG so far!
> >
> 
> I remember that thing from THE LAST STARFIGHTER and I think it was used
> in the Buck Rodgers tv show. Boy that thing gets around!!!
> 
> Flip
> 
> 
> -- 
>     __@  __@        Phillip "Flip" Russell  | Purdue University
>   _-\<, -\<,_       flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu | West Lafayette, IN
>  (_)/---|/-(_)      "We don't have enough power captain!!!"
> 

It was also in airplane II, with Shatner...
Stephen
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Spot?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:43:27 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

In "The Fistfull Of Datas" Data sort of scolded Spot when he wouldn't 
eat, and when he kept on jumping on top of Data's computer. When I saw 
this, I was sort of reminded of a parent scolding a child. Could Spot be 
Data's adopted "child" so to speak? 
Just a thought.

--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jonathan N. Deitch)
Subject: Re: Blooper in "Fistfull..." Possible Spoilers.
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:59:12 GMT

chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:

>tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:

>:)POssible blooper, and I've checked over it a lot but not really sure, but did
>:)Data use a contraction during the scene the Observation Lounge with Geordi,
>:)Picard, and Riker.   The scene when they first noticed his "Ancient Western"
>:)accent...he said "I've been studying" some sort of music...

>I'll have to check it out.  You could be right.

I believe this is right ... but this would be in character with his screwed
up memories ... I think he even saaid "y'all" once ...

>Now - how many people were able to say "Dvorak: Slovanic Dance #8" when
>the music was tripped up on the computer?!  It scared me to think that I
>recognized the song from my limited repetoir.

I'm a music major ... no problem ...

- Jonathan
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From: gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik)
Subject: Re: Teleporter Question
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:10:09 GMT

In article <168A11D6A.97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu>,
97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu wrote:
> 
>     Why do they have transporter pads? They can transport from anywhere to
> anywhere without standing on a pad, why does it matter? Wouldn't it be easier
> to just do point to point transports?
>  
> Patrick

Pat,

I don't own a tech manual or anything so this is purely a guess on my part.
 I think the pad acts as a collector.  It's help keep the beam together. 
While it's possible to not use it, it's safer when you do (maybe it's more
like a condom...)
From: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: RE: NOT NEW BUT... (The Drumhead)
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:30:28 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <21NOV92.25395282.0068@VM1.MCGILL.CA> news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca writes:
>In article <batemanc.722080048@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris) writes:
>>In 'The Drumhead' the rampaging ex-Admiral observes that Picard has
>>violated the Prime Directive nine times since becoming the captain
>>of the Enterprise. Does anyone know if this is accurate to the
>>episodes, or just a ball park figure? Do some episodes constitute more
>>than one violation (e.g. Pen Pals)?
>>
>>What does everyone think?
>>
>"Justice" - rescuing Wesley
>
>"Angel One" - rescuing people on female dominated world
>
>"When the Bow Breaks" - rescuing Wesley, again
>
>"Symbiosis" - Picard says "No" to drugs
>
>"Pen Pal" - rescuing Data's friend
>
>"Legacy" - rescuing people on Tasha's homeworld
>
>"Who Watches the Watchers" - people think Picard is a God
>
>"Higher Ground" - rescuing Beverly from terrorists
>
"Up the Long Ladder" - mixing clones and non-clones

Somebody suggested "First Contact" and "Ensigns of Command".
Personally, I don't see how Picard could be held responsible for
breaking the Prime Directive in either of these episodes.

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