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From: slbxk@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Chinese Friendship Club
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:38:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



                   FRIENDSHIP CLUB

                   From the Editor
           -------------------------------


Dear friends,

     We are all far away from home, home town, home city, home
motherland. We each have the same dreams, dreaming about pursuing
a higher degree in education, accomplishing a wonderful task in
our own life, getting a satisfying job, climbing to a higher
class in life... But we feel lonely, terribly lonely, we need
friends, and love. Loneliness is like a killer, threatening us
every friday evening, saturday, sunday, holidays, even in daily
life. Why not let us gather together to get rid of loneliness, to
find ourselves companionship, to enjoy love or friendship! Let's
provide ourselves to the society and meet many people and choose
the one we want to be with, the one we love, but we have not met
yet.

     Good luck to all of you, dear friends!



                                       Editor


     P.S.

     For APPLICATION FORM please write to:

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          |       FRIENDSHIP CLUB MEMBERSHIP         |
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          |               USU Box 1621               |
          |       Logan, UT   84322-0199  U.S.A.     |
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     Or send inquiring to E-mail address at the top line of this news.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
From: ystan@fawlty10.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr YS Tan)
Subject: Re: Lam=Lin=Lum? Re: History of family name
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:12:49 GMT

lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam) writes:

>In article <Bs2Iyp.Mpq@news.cso.uiuc.edu> phc65823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter H. Chou) writes:
>>lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:
>>
>>>I think my last name "Lam" is the same as the different spelling versions of
>>> "Lin" and
>>> "Lum" (I think "Lim" also).  It is the Chinese charater for "woods".
>>
>>>-Dan Lam/Lin/Lum
>>
>>something like that--isn't Lam a Cantonese pronounciation (as opposed
>>to Lin in Mandarin) or something like that..I mean I wouldn't know,
>>I don't know any Cantonese.

>Lam is not even close to the Cantonese or Mandarin pronounciation.  
>"Lamb" and "Lam" has the same pronunciation.  I think "Lum" is closer
>to the Cantonese pronunciation.

>I always wonder why my last name becomes Lam in English.

Be it Lam/Lin/Lum, they all refer to the same Chinese character :


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Regards,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (Alan S H Lam)
Subject: Thanks for your follow-up articles to Mr. Patten
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:34:11 GMT


Here I would like to express my gratitude to the people who had 
posted follow-up articles to Mr. Patten. 

In order to make sure your message can get through and go directly
to Mr. Patten, I had printed your follow-up articles and gave it 
to him. Mr. Patten received the hard copy and is very impressed
with your articles. 

Now, the visit is over. I hope Mr. Patten can take the good advise
and be a good governor in the coming five years.


--
Alan S. H. Lam
Department of Information Engineering, CUHK, Hong Kong
E-mail: shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk 
Tel: (852) 609 7975 Fax: (852) 603 5032
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
From: lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam)
Subject: Lam=Lin=Lum? Re: History of family name
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola INC.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:28:58 GMT

Since my last name is Lam so maybe I should put in my $.02.

In article <BrzMIy.Gq5@watserv1.waterloo.edu> rtang@sunee.waterloo.edu (The One Your Mother Warned You About!) writes:

>Hmm, seems like there are non-asians ie)europeans with the last name of "lam".
>Interesting....I guess people cant say "lam" isnt as "american" as Smith or whatever.
>:) :)
>

There is sone senator (Caucasian) with the last name of "Lamm" (double "M",
forgot what state he is from).  Have never met any Caucasian "Lam's" my
self but have run into some Caucasians (at work) that thought I was
white before meeting me.  Hmm, guess I don't need to change my last
name to land jobs with the defense contractors.

I think my last name "Lam" is the same as the different spelling versions of
 "Lin" and
 "Lum" (I think "Lim" also).  It is the Chinese charater for "woods".

-Dan Lam/Lin/Lum


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkcman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man)
Subject: Re - telnet to CPHK? 
Organization: MFCF
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:03:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.203948.2715@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
> Anyone know how can I telnet to CPHK?
> I have a friend who studied in CPHK
> and he has a vax account, I can send 
> mail to him use the internet address
> cphkvx.cphk.hk, but I can't login to 
> my friends account using telnet
> 
> anyone know what's the problem?
> 
> thanks in advance> 

Hi,

	Probably the attribute of your friends account has not been update that
the UNIX doesnot allow you to login his account. Try to use your friends password and see if it does.

Marcus
U of Waterloo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkcman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man)
Subject: RE: Surname --- Lam 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:25:10 GMT

In article <9207270633.AA10452@.euclid.uoregon.edu.>, dog@NEWTON.UOREGON.EDU (Douglas O Graham) writes:
> It appears to me that most people posted in this newsgroup has a surname
> LAM ...
> 
> DoG

Not really, just two of them. Try to scan it again.

Marcus
U of Waterloo
From: stephen@lsil.com (Stephen Lee 8941)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: More Infn about UW-Madison
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:42:30 GMT
Reply-To: stephen@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Microprocessor Group

In article 15627@cs.aukuni.ac.nz, hcha1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Heung Wing          Chat           ) writes:

>    While everyone is talking about the social life in Madison, let us look at
>    it in academic way. UW drop off top 25 Business School(according to the
>    US news ranking) last year. SO if really want to study in a better graduate
>    school. Try to apply UT-Austin, which has the most "economic" MBA. The school
>    fee is much lower than Madison(about 1/2) and it rank top 10 in US.
>    But it is more difficult to enter as well, of course.
>
>
I don't want to go into the stupid discussion of whichis the best school again.
But I think making an important decision based on a number, which happens
to change every year, doesn't make so much sense. An "economic" MBA doesn't
mean it produces quality people, guarantees a high pay job (assuming that's
what an MBA is for :)), offers the courses and degrees that one wants to
acquire. Also, what if someone gets a fellowship from a lower rank school? 

Here is a scenerio:
Scientists in Madison discover an alternative energy source next year, oil
worths nothing, Texas tuition triped. A business professor in Madison develops
a business/management theory which generates 100% employment, pushes US on top again.
US news ranks UW MBA back to #2 (Stanford still #1 :)). So everyone who goes
to Madison for an MBA this year makes a good decision.
Well of course this is very unrealistic, but I do observe some big yearly ranking
changes in US news & world report.

Ok, enough BS. I got my BS in UW-Madison before I moved to Stanford. I still
think it offers an excellent undergraduate education in a lot of areas.

---
---- Stephen Lee	Tel (408) 433-8941	Email:stephen@lsil.com
---- Cubicle 18, 2nd floor, Bld. 1525
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From: hiebeler@think.com (Dave Hiebeler)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: A hot market (was: History of family name)
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:17:28
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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	<1992Jul27.022625.4993@u.washington.edu>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com
In-reply-to: lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU's message of 27 Jul 92 02:48:43 GMT


In article <1992Jul27.024843.13015@CS.ORST.EDU> lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam) writes:

>    ...I received calls from MCI representative who can speak in both
>    Cantonese and Mandarin.  They tried to convince me to switch long
>    distance company.


  I am really curious about something.  How do these companies know
that you speak Chinese??

--
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Dave Hiebeler                  | hiebeler@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation  | (617) 234-4070
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kanj@ecf.toronto.edu (KAN JOHN KWOK LEUNG)
Subject: Re: video games from Hong Kong
Summary: Of course...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:52:08 GMT

In article <9207271426.AA06834@dora.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> bonl2@DORA.CFSMO.HONEYWELL.COM (Boniface Lee) writes:
>I am just wondering whether video games like Genesis could be bought from
>HK and played in the US??  Do I need a multisystem TV to play the game?
>Friend of mine bought the Genesis here in the US and he likes to buy some
>games from HK....he heard that some of them are really fun to play!
>
>Thanks for any info...
>--
>Boniface K. Lee (bonl2@cfsmo.honeywell.com)
>Honeywell Commercial Flight Systems - Minneapolis Operations
>(612) 785-4629

As it states in the summary, it is definately possible.  But to buy Genesis?
Maybe I am just being biased, but I think that NEC is defiately a better 
company than Sega for this type of stuff.  The product I am thinking about
is PC engine.  Then there is the Super Nintendo system.  The hottest game out
right now is Street Fighter II.  That is the best video game I ever played on
a home system.  The graphics is excellent.  It is just overall GREAT!

Well, that's just my point of view.

ttfn
				A. Mak  (Using KANJ@ECF.TORONTO.EDU)

E-Mail:
KANJ@ECF.TORONTO.EDU
A228MAKA@CDF.TORONTO.EDU


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) - 24 hrs
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:48:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.012148.18678@u.washington.edu> silly123@milton.u.washington.edu (Celia Nilson) writes:
>
>>
>>No they don't. At least I won't qualify those crap as science fiction.
>>There can be no SCIENCE if there exists not even common sense.
>>
>>By the same token, I don't (and never will) consider any of Ail Hon's  
>>as science ficition as well.
>>
>
>	Hmmm...How about Wai Sze Lai????
>			 ^^^^^^^^^^^
>	I guess there were about 4 moives about him!!! (Sam was a main actor)
>
>Celia

That was exactly the one that I was refering to. Fiction all the way, 
science it was not. Ail Hon doesn't even know what a Black Hole is, how
can you expect him to write any semi-coherent *science* fiction?



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From: tingh@Software.Mitel.COM (Henry Ting)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Was: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:09:20 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <6130064@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>His book has nothing to do with science. He try to explain some basic
>teaching in religions (if you consider religion is philosophy) in the stories.

Perhaps instead of 'explaining', he was just 'expressing' his views on
religion, philosophy, etc.

>Example, one of his book try to explain what is god (christian one) and his
>(if you consider god is male) behaviour. He written," He does not know where
>he came from. But he was born with the universal. He travel all over the
>universal. Finally, he chose earth as his place of stay. His reaction to
>mankind is very slow, measured in hundred of years. But his reaction would
>be very powerful." Sorry, he have not written that praying will change the
>will of the god :-).
>

That is certainly not my view of God. But everyone is entitle to their
own opinions.

Cheers,

Henry

-- 
Henry Ting           | Mitel Corp.
henry_ting@Mitel.COM | 350 Legget Dr., Kanata,
(613) 592-2122 x3067 | Ontario, Canada K2K 1X2
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sonford@milton.u.washington.edu (Sonford Yuen)
Subject: Re: Fundamental problem of China (Was Re: after 1997...)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 07:54:44 GMT

In article <1738@kluge.fiu.edu> stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu writes:
>
>of the stick. But it seems most of times it's the one who controls the
>market or even creates the demand that makes big money. One reason may
>be that utility companies's workers still have to buy the end product
>and services. Any netter cares to give more convincing arguments?

It's a big big problem which costs so much time for the socilogists to
look into. (Also the economists) 

Karl Marx had predicted that the capitalists would fall because the 
workers couldn't afford to buy the products in the market anymore and
then overthrow the capitalistic class. But the capitalists (or the
class of power) are clever enough not to pay the workers so less that they 
cannot afford to buy the products, and at the same time they make use of
the mass media to create a "demand atmosphere" that the people feel they 
do need those products (even though most of the time the products are
not neceassary to them). 

So the market runs this way (especially in the last 30 years).

It seems that the supply side makes the demand side feel they really 
demand for something (create the demand atmophere).

It seems like that.

Any metter cares to give more convincing arguments also?


Sonford
(Seattle)






























Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: New Discovery of Element
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) - 24 hrs
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:12:00 GMT

In article <5361@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> mbsfpby@uts.mcc.ac.uk (S.L.B. Yeung) writes:
>The original post is copied from rec.humor.  
>It's only a joke!
>
>Ben.


We know it was meant to be a joke. But some of us are telling you that it
is not funny.

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From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Ooh La La
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:41:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

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a obscene picture.

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1) Type [s] to save.
2) Answer [n] to the question of ... mbox format...
3) After leaving news, emacs Soc.culture.hongkong in your /News directory
4) Delete all the lines above and including "Cut Here".
5) Save the file in your favorite boyfriend/girlfriend's name, ex. Amazon.
6) Change attribute to executable file.
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From: sonford@milton.u.washington.edu (Sonford Yuen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: The name of book about China culture
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:59:15 GMT
Reply-To: sonford@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

After responding to the article heading "The Fundamental Problem of
China" I have received quite a number of mails asking about the book
I mentioned in the article. As I am such a lazy guy and kind of "reluctant"
to respond all the mails one by one, I want to introduce the book here.
(I think it's appropriate for the discussion started in soc.culture.hongkong)

The name of the book in my translation is:
The Fundamental Structure of China Culture.
(Chung Kwok Mum Fai Dig Sum Tsung Git Kau)

The author is called Sun Lung Kei who is believed in Hamilton, Western
Ontario, Canada now.

The book is to point out the difference of the "basic design" of Chinese
with that of Western People.
The aim of this book, as the author says, is to establish a "sense of
individuals" in Chinese. Under Chinese culture, the "value" of
a being has to be fulfilled through a "realtionship": parents, friends
political leaders, and even through the society and the political party.

In fact, I introduce this book because even though it's such a "hardware"
academic book, its approach is indeed not boring and actually quite
intriguing.                        

Thank You.

Sonford Yuen
(Seattle)
From: fau@phantom.UUCP (Frederick Au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HKTA Student Ambassador Program
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:32:52 GMT


Fellow Student Ambassadors,

In late April or early May, I posted a request for all of you to email
me to confirm your latest email address status (I might forget to post
on schk, but i am 100% sure that i asked those who were on the list at
that time such that i won't get any mail bounced).  For those out
there who would like to join, please email me (but those who have
mailed in earlier in April you can sit back and wait for the messages)
and let me put you down in the list, preferrably to
wkau+@ius5.ius.cs.cmu.edu.

only one minor problem - my account will be valid at least for another
year (the one at cmu) so that mail alias will work, and i can only
work on it over weekends.

sure, i would very much appreciate that some one else would take over
the responsibility such that i can move onto something new  8-)

				FRed Au ('88 co-ordinator)
				wkau+@ius5.ius.cs.cmu.edu
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From: poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:58:34 GMT
Reply-To: poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <3050@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:

[Deleted]
>Why are there so few (if any) HK science fiction movies?

Can I ask another question?  Why are there so few (if any) HK science
fiction (:  Yes, there are very few SF in HK as I know.  We can expect
that there are very few SF movies in HK too.

Have fun!!!

								Poon.
From: sonford@milton.u.washington.edu (Sonford Yuen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Info about UW-Madison
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:52:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul25.065200.4970
Reply-To: sonford@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I'm currently an undergraduate in UW, maybe I can provide information
for those who're interested in UW-Madison.

Well, some faculties are very strong like social sciences and physical
sciences, but not so for engineering and business even though the vast
majority of the students are majoring at those two. (Please don't 
misunderstand I'm saying that the students are not strong, just that
their faculties are so)

I think most of you know that it's extremely cold in Madison from Nov to
March (or even April), but sometimes very hot in summer : it can be -30C
in Christmas and 32-34C in August, what a SHARP CONTRAST.

But if you do really want to find a place to study, Madison is definitely
one of the top choices in US. It's such a big academic resource centre,
but I'm afraid that not all of HK students feel adapted to this
environment, you can hardly find a place for shopping, HK movies,   
HK entertainment periodicals..........

And lastly, if you want to "survive" in Madison, you're left 2 ways:
Ist, to endure the "hot gossip" (not the famous bar in Tsim Sha Tsui but
really the gossip) around the campus where you can't avoid to hear, and 
even to be involved. 
Also, there is another way: totally keep out of touch of HK students, but
you'll find yourself mad very soon this way.

Sonford (Seattle)

P.S.: I just take summer school in Seattle, I'm an undergraduate in Wisconsin.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
From: cheung@boromir.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Racial Problem
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:39:13 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@boromir.hw.stratus.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Hardware Engineering

Article 15564 of soc.culture.hongkong:
From: chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen)
Subject: Re: Racial Problem? (was: Voice to change of voter.)

>Chinese culture is different for American culture. As a matter of
>fact, it is very rare for a Chinese man to marry an American woman.
>The reputation of American woman has been the worst in the 
>world since the sex liberation. I have heard this joke from people
>in many country. American husband does not know where his wife
>will sleep tonight. It may be the racist's opinion. But it may be
>a part of American culture. 

Little thought from a little mind.

>One day on TV, I saw an American woman proudly told the public
>that she had sex with more than 4,000 man. Her daughter was standing
>with her and she could not tell who is her daughter's father.
>She also has a lot of theories about why she should have so many
>sex partners. I can not imagine this happens in China nor any
>other country in the world.

Big wonder from a frog in the well.  
Big fart from the blind man who thinks he has seen the whole elephant.

>The decay of a society is the beginning of a country's falling.
>It is the time for American to come back to Jesus. This is
>the only way for America avoid the fall.

It is time for you to take a look at yourself in the mirror.  This
is the only way for you to avoid furthur embarrassment.

All in all, full of bullshit from a braindead (racist+sexist)^100.
From: u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: email from fidonet to internet?
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:30:07 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

Anyone know how can I sent a email from fidonet in
Hong kong to internet?
I can send the email from internet to the BBS in HK
but they can't send email to me? any ideas?

thanks in advances

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies