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From: scott@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry)
Subject: Re: Hip Pointer
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Reston, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:31:16 GMT

wesloskij@kirk.msoe.edu writes:

>"hip bone").  Bo's injury was a severe case of this at first, but then
>it was discovered that he had arthritis (similar to Neil Lomax of the 
>St. Louis Cardinals and Joe Namath).  This caused him to have the hip
>replacement surgery.  

That's not what I've seen and read.  In Sports Illustrated and on several
sports TV shows (the ESPN Roy Firestone thing, and others), they've stated
that on a very large percentage of players, the hit that caused Bo's 
injury would have caused knee rather than hip damage.  This was due entirely
to the strength of of the muscles in Bo's legs.  The hip injury _initially_
was thought to be a hip pointer, but was later found to be an actual break
in the socket of the hip joint.  It was thought that rehabilitation _might_
allow Bo to continue playing baseball while football was almost entirely
out of the question.  Later, the hip joint deteriorated further and 
replacement was thought to be the only course of action that would allow
Bo to walk without a limp and _possibly_ play baseball.

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From: macole@wam.umd.edu (The Dude)
Subject: Re: Greatest Comebacks
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:23:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.172832.28017@pbhyg.PacBell.COM> dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok) writes:
>Since we have just witnessed the greatest come-from-behind victory
>in NFL history, I thought the net would like some of the previous
>games.  Note:  the 49ers held the record for greatest comeback AND
>held the (dubious) record for holding the biggest playoff lead that
>was lost - until Buffalo broke both of them yesterday.
>
>Biggest Comebacks - Overall
>
>32 - Buffalo vs. Houston (playoffs), Jan 3, 1993 (trailed 35-3,
>     won 41-38 in OT)
>28 - San Francisco vs. New Orleans, Dec 7, 1980 (trailed 35-7,
>     won 38-35 in OT)
>25 - St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay, Nov 8, 1987 (trailed 28-3, won
>     31-28)
>
>Biggest Comebacks - Playoffs
>
>32 - Buffalo vs. Houston, Jan 3, 1993, wild card (trailed 35-3,
>     won 41-38 in OT)
>20 - Detroit vs. San Francisco, Dec 22, 1957, divisional playoff
>     (trailed 27-7, won 31-27)
>18 - Dallas vs. San Francisco, Dec 23, 1972, divisional playoff
>     (trailed 21-3, won 30-28)
>18 - Miami vs. Cleveland, Jan 4, 1985, divisional playoff
>     (trailed 21-3, won 24-21)
>15 - Denver vs. Houston, Jan 4, 1991, divisional playoff
>     (trailed 21-6, won 26-24)
>
Speaking of comebacks...while I was watching that pathetic display of defense
by the Bills and Oilers, I started to remember another game that was similar.
But I just couldn't put my finger on it.  All I knew that the Terps came 
back from some tremendous deficit to beat somebody...I would've never imagine
that I was watching the same quarterback executing almost exactly like he did
in college...of course, this time, I didn't turn off the TV at halftime.  So,
Frank "Lloyd" Reich (the Architect of Comebacks -- Berman, ESPN) just gave me
another opportunity to watch what I missed in Maryland vs. Miami game; I got
to watch the most incredible comeback (and of course such "beautiful" defense)
in history.  Well enough nostalgia...

Reich vs. O'Donnell -- hehehe...Terp vs. Terp

On a lighter note...

How much should Emmit Smith get paid?
my answer --> "More than Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas (combined?)"

"Hmmm...let's see if Randall decides to play football Sunday or basketball
after he gets hit by "somebody" from Dallas no-name defense."

"Wait a minute.....Did Troy Aikman actually survive a full season???????!!!!!"

"What happened the last time Dallas had a week off and then played Philly?"

"Does Jimmy Johnson know the sign for Play-action pass?"

"Will Reggie White finally lose his voice and stop sounding like Bill 
Cartwright?"

"Who would win a fight between Andre Waters and Ken Norton Jr.?" (ok. let's
make even...Andre Waters vs. Ken Norton Sr.)

Tired yet?  I am...

See ya in Minnesota, JJ's!

Mario


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From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Subject: Re: Is ABC clueless? (Dierdork bashing)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:33:55 GMT


I would make this worst possible announcing team: Kenny Stabler, Dan Dierdorf, 
and Joe Namath.

Paul
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: More Eagles/Cowboys stuff
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:10:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1993Jan6.161112.3256@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>In
>the first Dallas/Eagles game, I said before hand that Novacek was the
>key. That Smith and Irvin would be neutralized, and they were, but
>Novacek scared me. Get a film of that game, and you will see Novacek
>take a few hits from Waters in the first 1/2, and then in the second
>1/2 you'll see him single handedly kill drives by dropping balls in
>his hands. Then look at the second game. No more alligator arms.

Novacek killed at least two first-half drives with 3rd down drops, and
IMHO was the main reason the game was only 3-0 at that time, not 14-0
or 17-0.  He was weak the entire first half of the year.  Fortunately,
he has regained the sure hands that got him to the Pro Bowl last (and
this) year.

Daniel Welch
From: schnabel@einstein.eds.com (Eric Schnabel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: TOP TEN MADDENISMS
Keywords: madden, football
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:09:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: EDS/TSD - Troy, MI

Just an casual observation from a casual armchair QB:

I think John Madden is great! He takes some of the staleness out of the 
otherwise very redundant commentary, and makes the game more entertaining. 

Well, for the five or six other folks out there who like madden, here's 
some of my favorite Madden-isms:

PIGEONS IN THE NFL:
  During a Bears game this year, I remember Madden diagramming the 
  pigeons' movements at soldier field, and how they kept moving from
  one side of the field to another. Maddenwas saying things like "To be
  a pigeon in the NFL, you have to be quic k, and always play behind the
  offense...A good pigeon can read the plays, and understands the offensive
  schemes well...."

GUY IN THE STANDS CATCHING A PASS
  Last year during the Dallas-Detroit playoff game when Kramer threw the
  ball through the end-zone to a guy in the stands (who made a very nice
  receprion..). Madden charts out the play and says, "Now here, kramer 
  is reading the "D", and looks off each receiver. He sees that his primary
  receiver is covered, and the Dallas secondary has good coverage on every
  body exept THIS guy... That's what the good quarterbacks can do, find
  the open receiver, even if it's a guy in the stands..."

ALL MADDEN SELECTION OF CHRIS SPEILMAN
  Two years ago, Madden says "You've got to like a guy who can get a chunk
  of artificial turf stuck in the mask of his helmet... Now that's hard-nosed
  football!!
  football!!



Any other good stories out there???????
   
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From: sbs9276@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Blackout in Buffalo
Reply-To: sbs9276@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:57:04 GMT


      The Bills drew 75000+ fans-- the most of any team in the
NFL playoffs last weekend only to get blacked out and the NFL
will NOT sell the rights of the game to local TV stations to show
it in its entirety. So the NFL instead has made a 1 hr. highlight
film it is selling in this area (no kidding) to the local TV
stations. And boy am I glad I saw it in person (and have
relatives in Chicago who taped it!).

      Oh yeah-- the Bills are the 2nd smallest TV market in the NFL.
Anyone know the smallest? Denver? Cleveland?

      Steve
From: pretzlaff@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (NUMBER 1 TRIBE FAN!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cleveland has Classy Fans! (from a Bills fan perspective)
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:36:24 EST

In article <BzMq8o.7ts@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER) writes:
> Well, I was listening to the radio this morning when a Cleveland
> fan called about the Bills.  He said that when they posted the
> Bills-Saints score when the Bills took the lead that 60,000
> fans in Cleveland Stadium cheered.  Its good to know that other
> cities support the Buffalo Bills, and especially the AFC team
> this year in the Superbowl.  That guy's phone call made my day!
> 
> Good luck next year Cleveland.
> 
> Bruce, a Bills fan. 

I'm sure the majority of the reaction came because we hate the Steelers and
do not want them to have Home filed advantage in the playoffs.

I would of cheered for both reasons.

I was at the Bills/Browns playoff games a couple years ago, and alot
of Bills fans came down. After the game I met some them down in the
Flats. We had a great time talking about the game and they wished us
luck against Dnever. I have not met a fan from Buffalo that I didn't
like. I've meet allot of them at Tribe games in the summer.

Us Blue collar towns have to stick together.

Go Bills!
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Delton Hall arrested for DUI
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:42:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?


Injured SD Charger backup DB Delton Hall was arrested last night at 
1:30am for DUI. He was very intoxicated at the time, resisted arrest
and supposedly slugged a cop. I guess that rules him out for Sunday's
game as well as his future with the Chargers.


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From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: Re: aPost subject [PittsBurg ???]> a
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:46:15 GMT


O'Donnell -- worked intensely in practice over the past weekend; Cowher
             said he wanted to see if he could go at it full.  Expected
             to take the majority of the snaps in practice and will start
             (Battle of the Terrapin QBs).

WR Jeff Graham -- muscle strain in leg during Saturday practice; expected
                  to begin practicing again today and probable to start.
                  Having Jeff will be a key to success for the Steelers.

Tunch Ilkin -- still fighting career-long knee problems; no word as of yet.

That's all that I'm able to remember.











"I hereby encourage each and every man, woman, and child entering Three Rivers
 Stadium on Saturday to be Wearing a Terrible Towel about the neck, so as to
 avoid catching a cold!" 
                                     -- Coach Bill Cowher, 12-29-92

Kevin L Stamber
Purdue University



COWHER POWER!

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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: NFC Playoff Games, Jan 9/10
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:00:49 GMT

The two NFC playoff games offer some interesting contrasts.

Dallas vs. Philadelphia:  The only knock that I have hear about
Dallas is the team's lack of playoff experience.  In particular,
Aikman's lack of big game experience.  Well, the only way you get
experience is to play - and here is Dallas.  Dallas is a team
with numerous strengths and no obvious weaknesses. The Eagles have shaken
their dubbing as a team that can't win a playoff game.  They are
on an emotional high - and play a team that they are very familiar
with. They have a player (White) who can single-handedly dominate
a game, much like LT. The Eagle defense was ranked #6 and the offense
#7, a good balance.  The winner of this game will have a lot
of confidence going into the NFC Championship game.  This should be
a great game!

San Francisco vs. Washington:  As opposed to Dallas/Philadelphia, here
are two teams with a lot of successful playoff history behind them.
A team that has won 4 of the last 11 SB against the defending SB
champs who have themselves won 3 of the last 10.  The biggest
question marks are at QB.  How will Steve Young fare starting his 
first playoff game (he has appeared as a backup in 8 post-season
games)?  Which Redskin's QB will show up:  the SB 27 MVP or the one
we saw most of 1992?  Of course, there are other questions as well.
Is the 49er pass defense really as bad as the stats indicate?  Can
Washington's defense stop the San Francisco offense?  Some commentators
said that Washington's biggest advantage over Minnesota was that the
Redskins had recent successful playoff experience.  Shouldn't be a
factor this weekend.

I'm not into predictions (although I certainly HOPE that SF meets
Dallas for the NFC championship).  Just that we get 2 great games
and that the best teams win.

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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Eagles-Aints
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:29:06 GMT

In article <103640@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
> well before you send Mora his walking papers just how many winning seasons
> did the saints have before he got there?

But getting to the playoffs doesn't matter anymore.  Buddy Ryan put together
just as good a defense, if not better, and made it to the playoffs three
straight years with Philadelphia.  He's raising horses in Kentucky right
now.  Everybody is as grateful as hell when you turn a losing team into a
winner.  But once you start winning, you had better win it all.  If not,
we'll be watching you on NFL Gameday/Live.

> if anyone is to be blamed for 
> yesterday's loss it has to be hebert.  they were still up 20-17 when hebert
> tried to make the big play (tm) and got intercepted in their own 20. stupid!

Even if he wasn't intercepted it would have been three-and-out and the
Eagles would have been getting the ball back with the momentum.  And
their offense was unstoppable in the second half.

> and how about that safety?  why run back 10 yards into your own end zone
> just to pass??  how about a screen?  or even a running play?  why would you
> do anything to give the opposing team more momentum than they had??

The Saints had a 3rd-and-25 on their own 5-yard line.  They ran a screen
on the previous play which put them in that situation to begin with.  The
Saints burned the Birds in the first half with screens to IronHead.  LB
Byron Evans was all over him in the second half.  So the screen wasn't
working.  A running play?  On 3rd-and-25?  It goes no where and the Eagles
get the ball back near midfield.  Again with momentum and being unstoppable
in the second half.  The Saints needed a big play for the first down or at
the very least ten yards for punting room.  The only way to get it was via
the airways.  From the 5-yard line Hebert had to drop back into the endzone
or he wouldn't have been able to get the pass over the Eagles defensive line.
Credit the Eagles secondary for good coverage and the Minister of Defense
for the bull-rush sack.

I responded to a previous article which blamed Hebert, but let me repeat,
what about the Saints defense?  It was 26-20 after the safety.  Philly
got the ball back after the free kick and ran the ball down the vaunted
Saints defense's throats.  They marched right down the field and put it
out of reach at 29-20 with a FG.

> satish nair
> giants fan who'll take mora (and his defense)

Who's team would still finish behind the Eagles, Cowboys, and Redskins
in the tough NFC East:-)!


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:08:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1993Jan5.151650.22501@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>In article <3233@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>> In article <103612@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes:
>> (although, given my druthers, I would
>> have taken the Vikings over either one).
>
>Of course you would.  Sounds like the confidence is getting a little low
>down in Dallas.

So, are you saying you'd rather play the Cowboys than the Vikings?  What,
confidence getting a little low?

I feel perfectly confident of the Cowboys' ability to beat any of the three.
But I would rather have the Vikings, because that would have sent the Eagles
to San Francisco, where they might have a chance of winning.  The 49ers are
the only team that the Cowboys need fear in the playoffs, and then mostly
because the game will be in Candlestick.  Not would be, *will* be.

>It's funny that you mention the last Eagles/Cowboys game.  Seems to me
>the first half of that game was very similar to the NFC WildCard game
>on Sunday.  The Eagles offense struggled for first downs which gave the
>opponents the ball for almost the entire first half.

One crucial difference, though:  the Eagles offense continued to struggle
throughout the rest of the game, too.

>> The Eagles have won five in a row, but the Cowboys have had two dominating
>> wins in a row, too, over the Falcons and the Bears.
>Oooooh, I'm impressed!

And the Eagles streak included the Giants twice.  What's your point?

>Eagles' lack of road success?  They've won two in a row and
>three of their last four on the road.

And 5 out of 8 during the regular season, including one at a certain Texas
Stadium.  Oh, yeah, that's where the *next* game is, too, isn't it?

>And while you're at it, can you tell us how
>many playoff games Troy Aikman has won?

And how many has Cunningham won?  Just one.  I think the difference is
that Cunningham has also *lost* three.  Aikman's record is 0-0.  It's
pretty pitiful that you have to trumpet the fact that Cunningham finally
won a playoff game, and did so before Aikman only because the Eagles lost
out in the regular season!  Sad, indeed.

>Gawd, it's fun on this newsgroup in January:-)!

Very true.  Better enjoy it while you can; you've only got about five
days left! :^)

Daniel Welch
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From: toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma)
Subject: Re: CRAP FOOTBALL STIKES AGAIN!
Organization: Not bloody likely around here!
	<1ihvu3INNa5o@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1993Jan7.203152.21574@asl.dl.nec.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:31:42 GMT

>Why don't we have a better team?  Players get suckered into playing A.Football
>at HS and College level because of money.  If you ask any of these soccer and
>football players you'll find out that soccer is a much more physically demanding
>sport.  Time and time again i've seen players come off of football season to
>start playing soccer again and they hardly last through the first half.

Not having played too much soccer, but having played both lacrosse and
football, I can tell you that this is simply not true. You need to be in
top shape from a strength and aerobic standpoint, or else you will not 
last in football. The reason that the football players don't last 
through the soccer season is probably because they took such abuse in
football. YOU go play guard and run 30 sweeps in a ballgame, and tell me
how you feel. If you aren't going 100% every down, you'll get hurt.
--
toma@tc.cornell.edu	rory@foopub.tucson.az.us
You want me to upgrade to System what?

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From: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Reply-To: pws2n@vision1.ee.Virginia.EDU (Philip Weaver Smith)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:45:12 GMT


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Now that the election is over, and the country has spoken,
it is more important than ever to make sure that your voice
continues to be heard, that we all work together to heal
the wounds of the campaign, and move the country progressively
towards the 21st century. Stay active in the political process.  
Use the voice you have in this great country to continue 
to change the nation in a positive way.

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From: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Meskes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Top players in total yards from scrimmage
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:16:16 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

Someone asked for this two weeks ago. Unfortunately I'm missing some stats.
Perhaps someone on the net can answer the question marks. This list should
contain all players who made more than 1000 yards.


 name			games played 	total yards	TD

Thurman Thomas			16	2113		12
Emmitt Smith			16	2047		19
Barry Foster			16	2033		11
Lorenzo White			16	1867		8
Terry Allen			16	1679		15
Barry Sanders			16	1577		10
Sterling Sharpe			16	1469		13
Ricky Watters			14	1418		11
Cleveland Gary			16	1418		10
Michal Irvin			16	1387		7
Harold Green			16	1384		2
Rodney Hampton			16	1356		14
Hershel Walker			16	1348		10
Reggie Cobb			16	1327		9
Earnest Byner			16	1326		7
(I'm missing Byners catching stats from their MNF at New Orleans)
Jerry Rice			16	1259		11
Chris Warren			16	1151		3
Ronnie Harmon			16	1147		4
Andre Rison			16	1121		11
Fred Barnett			16	1068		6
Anthony Miller			16	1059		8
Eric Martin			16	1041		5
Anthony Johnson			15	1006		3
Mark Higgs			15	961		5
(I think he belongs here, too. I do not know his stats from their opening
MNF at Cleveland, but I suppose it's more than 39 yards.)


Just in comparison I add the best two tight-ends and quarterbacks:

Keith Jackson			12	594		5
Brent Jones			12	584		4
(And another question: Did he play at New Orleans? What were his stats?)

Randall Cunningham		15	550		5
Steve Young			16	540		4

Michael
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: NFC Playoffs show restructure necessary?
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  7 JAN 93 10:46:41    

In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.94.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU>, Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes...

>NFC East is the BEST!
>ALN (Go Giants in 93)

I don't understand why anyone cares which division is the best.  Just 
because they're in the same division as the Cowboys does not make the 
Cardinals, for example, a better team.  Even for the Cowboys, being in 
the same division as the Eagles and the Redskins means nothing if they 
can't beat the 49ers.

The NFC East has 3 of the best teams in football.  We already know 
that.  What else is there to say?  

JGH
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