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From: bml2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (BRIAN MICHAEL LUCY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State's schedule
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:19:21 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct2.145815.15202@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, elgx@vax5.cit.cornell.e
du writes:
>Could someone e-mail to me a schedule of Penn State's games?
>
>I'm interested mostly in their November games at home, but if someone had
>a schedule already in file form they could send me that, and it would
>be greatly appreciated.
>
>Dave Han
>
 No Problem!
                              Predicted scores (all PSU victories of course!)
 Oct 10 - Miami(FL)       :   24 - 14
 Oct 17 - Boston College      30 - 17
 Oct 24 - @West Virginia      36 - 10
 Oct 31 - @BYU                36 - 24
 Nov 14 - @Notre Dame         24 - 20
 Nov 21 - Pittsburgh          43 - 14

 Brian Lucy

 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: delaw@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS EDWARD LAW )
Subject: Re: The Rotten Rooster, 20 worst
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:24:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.080345.25269@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
|> 	The following is a list of the worst 20 college football teams
|> as seen in Penthouse's Oct. issue.
|> 
|> 	1. Minnesota
|> 	2. South Carolina
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        This could be bad news for us Woofpackers. There's already 
        talk that Sparky Woods could get the boot, and that means
        S. Carolina will come after Dick Sheridan (a S.Carolina grad).
        On the other hand, S. Carolina's poor seaon (combined with a poor
        season for a Clemson team) could bode well for N.C. State recruitng. 
        
 
|> 	3. Cal-State at Fullerton
|> 	4. Temple
|> 	5. Colorado State
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        Can we put LSU in this list? 
 
|> 	6. Northwetern
|> 	7. Oregon State
|> 	8. Kent State
|> 	9. Southern Methodist
|> 	10. Tulane
|> 	11. Ohio
|> 	12. Duke
|> 	13. Army
        ^^^^^^^^
        I take it this list was compiled before the start of this 
        season. Since Army lost to a winless Navy last year, they
        deserve to be in this list, but probably a bit higher.  
        
|> 	14. New Mexico 
|> 	15. Iowa State
|> 	16. Maryland
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^
        Probably the best 1-4 team in the nation.
 
|> 	17. Oklahoma State
|> 	18. Utah State
|> 	19. Kentucky
|> 	20. Cincinnati
|> -- 
|> ___ ___ _   _    _       _             _
|>  |   |  | \/ |  (_  |_| |_| |\ | |\ | | | |\ | timothy-shannon@uiowa.edu 
|>  |  _|_ |    |   _) | | | | | \| | \| |_| | \| tshannon@CCAD.UIOWA.EDU
|> "Go find someone else to pick on" - A diehard Iowa State Cyclone fan.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman)
Subject: Re: Arizona State's Mario Bates out for season
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:18:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.174622.4181@asuvax.eas.asu.edu> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
>
>     Mario Bates suffered a third degree tear of
>the lateral cruciate ligament as he was sandwiched
>high and low on the last play of the Nebraska game
>and will miss the remainder of the season.

When I read the headline, I was sure that he'd probably
been arrested for being a witness to the Raythan Smith
shooting, or maybe for having known Garrick McGee.
Nonetheless, this is real blow.  He was finally 
beginning to live up to his billing after choosing
ASU over UC-Boulder.

Hopefully, Davison will be able to carry a heavier
load.  It's likely that Montgomery will be carrying
the ball more as a result also.
>
>     Having yet to redshirt, he will be applying
>to the NCAA for a medical hardship.

I thought a player could be granted medical redshirt,
as long as they participated in three or fewer games.
This shouldn't be a problem, should it?
>
>     A sophomore, Bates had been second in the
>nation in rushing behind SDSU's Marshall Faulk.

The kid has been brilliant.  I didn't have an
opportunity to see his numbers from the Nebraska
game, but against Washington three weeks ago, he
ran for 214 yards on only 19 carries, while 
splitting time with Davison.  He followed against
Louisville with another fine game.

>     So now both super Marios, Bates in football,
>and Bennett in basketball, are out for a year
>with serious knee injuries.

It's a real shame.  After the beating ASU's athletic
program has endured over the past month, you'd think
there'd be a point when the flogging would stop.

Scott

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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Auburn 31 Vandy 7
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:24:25 GMT

In article <dkm2.718223080@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
> 
> Oh well, that's all from Starkville.
> 
> Dave- you comin' over for the game?

I want to, but alas, I have a consulting job this friday and saturday.

I'm married.  I need the cash!

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Purdue football
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:00:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct2.173943.6684@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
[....]
>1.  And I always thought Purdue football went downhill when I started going
>    there in 1985.  It still hasn't recovered even though I've been gone
>    for 2.5 years now.  But my brother is still there, so it could be a
>    family jinx.  We'll know if that is the case next year...
>
[....]
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

So! Saunders finally fesses up his responsibility for the whole problem!



-- 
   <===========================><===============================>
   || Christopher Landers      ||  Stamp Out Silly Signatures! ||
   <============== landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ================>
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From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Re: Pac Ten Review (9/26/92)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:29:34 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep28.072037.12906@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>Another pretty good week for the Pac Ten, going 5-3 to raise the out
>
>Standings		Conf	W  L  T		All 	W  L  T
>Washington			1  0  0			3  0  0
>Washington State		1  0  0			3  0  0
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Stanford			1  0  0			3  1  0
>UCLA				0  0  0			3  0  0
>USC				0  0  0			1  0  1
>California			0  0  0			2  1  0
>Oregon State			0  0  1			1  2  1
>Arizona				0  1  1			1  2  1
>Oregon				0  1  0			2  2  0
>Arizona State			0  1  0			1  2  0


Well it looks like the Pac10 will go down to the Apple Bowl this year!!!!
   8-}    

-Eric Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:11:47 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

In article <92277.103054MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>         That's right! It time for the 1992 version of the nets' favorite
>            game..... How Penn State will win the MNC!!
>
>         O.k. can anybody find a problem with this..................
>
>         -Washington goes undefeated the rest of the year
>
>         -Penn State goes undefeated the rest of the year
>
>         -UCLA goes undefeated in the PAC-10 this year
>
>        If these 3 things occur, then UCLA and Washington will be tied for
>        the PAC-10 championship (they don't play each other).  Since UCLA
>        has gone longer without going to the Rose Bowl, they get to go
>        (where they get crushed by Michigan).  Washington exercises the
>        option to bail out of the coalition if the MNC is involved, and
>        takes the big bucks to play Penn State, who should be ranked #2
>        or #3 after beating Miami and Notre Dame.  Of course, this assumes
>        Washington doesnt pull a Miami and puss out on playing the highest
>        available team.
>
>        Well, whadda ya think?
>-------
>========================================================================
>  Mark Rieker        We are Penn State      Go Atlanta Braves!
>                                         1991 National League Champions!!
>
>  mjr127@psuvm.psu.edu ---- ricker@pacific.cmpe.psu.edu
>
> "Who cares about grades? Who cares about life? Who cares about me?....
>  Not me that's for sure!!" --  The Young Ones




	YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.


	********************
	JLI   PENN STATE '90
	********************
From: gerke@hydra1b.cs.utk.edu (Mark Gerke)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: question: rules concerning missed/blocked fieldgoals
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:04:11 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: gerke@hydra1b.cs.utk.edu (Mark Gerke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra1b.cs.utk.edu

In the last 2 Tennessee games there has been a blocked field goal and a missed 
fieldgoal from the 3 yard line.  

what are the rules for placing the ball for the change of possession? 
  for the missed attempt from the 3 they placed it at the 20 is that because the 
ball went out the back of the end-zone?

Where is the ball placed if the attempt is blocked?  where it goes out of bounds,
or is recovered?

Thanks,
Mark
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kcastro@us.oracle.com
Subject: Out on a Limb with a Heisman Prediction
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:48:40 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.



I'm going to go waaaaay out on a net.limb and predict that Shane Matthews
will NOT be winning the Heisman this year.  

:)  :)   :)   :)


--Castro
From: tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: SMU defeats TCU, eyes Cotton
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:39:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep28.163924.18765
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Inspired by a pre-game castaration of a live horned frog, the SMU Mustangs
pounded TCU 21-9 at Ownby Stadium Saturday in a pivotal SWC showdown.  Led
by darkhorse Heisman candidate "Dandy" Dan Freiburger, who completed 31 of 
51 passes for 372 yards and 2 TDs, the Ponies won their third consecutive game
and remained unbeaten in the SWC.

SMU, which now has a share of the SWC lead, was adamant about not relinquishing
it.  "We've got to go to Waco next week, so we're already thinking about the
Baylor Bears," defensive lineman Kenny "Sugar" Rea said.  "But we've got A&M
coming to our place in a game which will mean Cotton.  We really think we can
beat them.  We think they're the worst Top 5 team in the country."

GT
From: crittend@bodie.cs.unc.edu (bac)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: FTAB Military Action (was Re: Aggie Riot)
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:53:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder) writes:
> 
>>BTW--the Stanford band may have gotten booed by a whole crowd, but have they
>>ever managed to be the targets of a riot?  Then again, antagonizing an Aggie
>>crowd on a day when the Aggies lose is a bad idea. (Of course, the Aggie riot
>>is also ancient history... the MOB hasn't done anything nearly as interesting
>>in ages...)
>
>Riot?  What riot?  I guess this is an old story that I've missed.  Would
>someone please post the details (Tom?  Goobster??).

here's what i've heard:  aggies at rice in the mid to late 70's.  MOB
comes out and imitates the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band.  now while
aggies as a rule have a wonderful sense of humor this mockery was too
much for the aggie band and the corps of cadets to take.  so they
invaded the field, rounded up the MOB, and held them hostage for the
rest of the game.

so i don't think you should call it a riot.  it was a precision
military excercise on par with the invasion of Grenada and Operation
Just Cause.  just one in a long line of corps antics at the football
games.  (saber stories anyone?)

and though i don't know for sure, i seriously doubt the part about the
football team losing that day...


___brad crittenden_____________________________________crittend@cs.unc.edu___

"Yeah and if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass a-hoppin'."
				--Nathan Arizona
_____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Subject: Tribute To Troy Lite
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:45:04 GMT

In article <1aai76INNd5i@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
>
>And for those who hate the USC band and its "song" - don't worry, the
>band director has sold out due to all the pressure and plays "Tribute
>to Troy" only half the time - not all the time :-(
>

Well of course.  They play "Fight On (and on and on and on...)" the
other half of the time.

Sheesh.

Brian
  - Try Hard Bears!
  - Be Dilligent!

(PS: That's why the Cal Band keeps track of how many times they play
*both* songs, not just one.)



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: thiaga@pi.cs.fsu.edu (Raghuram Thiagarajan)
Subject: Re: Miami routs Arizona
Reply-To: thiaga@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:04:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.181005.6723@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>As for the Arizona game, big deal. We won, we didn't play for the tie. And
									^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
					True ! It's the "W" that matters .
>I am confident that the Noles will come into the OB thinking that Miami is
>a pushover and that they will waltz to victory. 

I don't think so : the Noles are unlikely to underestimate Miami . 

>I truly feel that the Canes will beat the snot out of FSU. Master Ward is
>going to think he broke open a Hornets nest only these hornets are 200 to
>300 pounds and 6 feet plus tall. I wrote in a previous post that I thought

	Master Gino is going to be finding out the same thing about the FSU
defense . Marvin Jones and company will plague him .   

>the score will be around 41 to 17 but I'm going to revise that. It'll be
>closer to 48 to 7 that is if FSU scores at all.

Both Teams are evenly matched on defense ! FSU has to avoid the INT's.
A team like Miami will convert any turnovers .

-Raghu.


-- 
Hullo !
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Freshman QB's.....
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:19:28 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


How about Shawn Jones for an impact freshman?  Sure his junior year was a 
dissapointment, but his freshman year was brilliant, for a frosh of course.
-- 
BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu
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From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Re: Next Week's Polls
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:44:07 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BvD8Hx.HvJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>	I've been reading a lot of stories about how people are
>happy that Washington is now #1 in polls, but is everyone so sure
>that they won't be #2 again next week?  I think that if Miami can
>prove itself by beating Florida State convincingly, they will be
>back to #1 in most of the minds of the voters who just switched.
>On the other hand, if Florida State wins big, they could also be
>vaulted to #1.
>
Well of course we'll never know until next week, but I suspect that a
Washington win will keep them #1 no matter what.  Why?  Well USC is not
that lousy a team and any kind of a win would make Washington look good,
unless they really stink it up and still win somehow (hmmmm kind of like
Miami last week!! )  I think the old rule that #1 is for #1 to lose is
still true, but you can lose by a lousy showing against a weaker opponent.
The winner will probably pick up some #1 votes...but not too many is my
guess.

Of course, this is all moot since I know for a fact that Washington is better
than either Miami or FSU.  But lets not cloud the issues with pertinent
facts!!!!! :-)

-Eric Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
>	If you think about it, it does make sense.  This is the biggest
>game of the year so far, a game that will test how good both teams
>really are.  Washington hasn't had such a test yet and thus hasn't really
>proven their quality.  Their best game will probably be their last one,
>in whichever bowl they end up in.  In the end, Miami or Florida State
>beating another top 3 team means a lot more than Washington beating
>Nebraska in a less than inspiring game.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: WAHOO@VIRGINIA.EDU
Subject: Virginia WINS
Originator: smt2t@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:57:36 GMT

In the ACC today Virginia (4-0) beat Duke 55-28.
Clemson lost to Georgia Tech 16-20.
Last week Virginia had clobbered the Yellow Jackets 55-24.
So Virginia is better than Clemson and Clemson almost beat FSU.
Final Conclusion: Cavaliers are number one in the nation.
Ofcourse, I have assumed Miami would be kicked out of the top ten 
after today's "win". And Washington never belonged there.


---------------------
GO HOOS. GO CAVS
---------------------

** I HAVE TWO FAVORITE TEAMS, THE CAVALIERS AND WHOEVER PLAYS VIRGINIA TECH**
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: This Week in the SEC (Oct. 3)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:33:05 GMT

In article <69915@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
 
> OLE MISS (3-2) beat KENTUCKY (3-2), 24-14
> 
> The Rebels jumped out an early lead in this one and hung on for
> a much needed conference win.

Does anyone know the details of the end of this game?  I caught the tail end
of a radio talk show and some Kentucky fans were raising heck about Curry
supposedly just giving up at the end of the game.  Unfortunately, I didn't
get all of the facts.

Details, anyone??

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@dickens.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:32:26 GMT

In article <Bv9sMJ.Lzr@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>Miami found a way to win, while playing poorly.  Just like all great teams
>do that don't panic and play for a tie.   
>

With Miami losing 7-2 and then winning 8-7, I'm really curious how those
mighty Canes could have tried to play for a tie? :)   When you guys start
playing some Division I-A schools (and wining by more than one point)
then I'll start taking your comments seriously. 


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: No, I mean the Safety Dance
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:34:08 GMT

In article <6OCT199210135211@isolde.gfdi.fsu.edu> scott@isolde.gfdi.fsu.edu (SCOTT) writes:
>In article <BvovsA.1y9@ais.org>, ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes...
>>In article <1992Oct5.220224.3269@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> I  wrotes:
>>[bad, bad, bad FSU play deleted :)]
>>>It's anyone's guess why Miami fans weren't doing the Safety Dance made
>>>popular by Men
>>>Without Hats back in the 80s.  Why doesn't that catch on?
>>>
>
>>We sure did plenty of it at Michigan Stadium when we hosted Houston.  
>>Jimmy Klinger was manhandled by a Michigan defensive lineman at 
>>about 1 foot out of the end zone.  The QB was tackled into the 
>>end zone and the Michigan student section erupted into a chorus 
>>of hands being clapped overhead.  Of course, the official called 
>>that forward progress had been stopped (by a QB with his arm cocked?) 
>>and disallowed the safety.  Regardless, I'm sure the Cougars were 
>>pretty rattled by our continued clapping and screaming on the 
>>next couple of plays when they had to snap the ball into the 
>>end zone (btw, they were in the student's end of the stadium). 
>>---
>>Steve
>> 
>By "safety dance" I don't mean just signaling a safety.
>I mean that you do the dance from the Men Without Hats
>video.  It involves making an S with your arms, kind of 
>like so:
>               --	This is what you do when your
>              | 0       gets a safety.  Now if the band
>               \|       would just learn the tune, we'd
>                |\      be set.  Of course FSU's band
>               -+/      sucks, but that's another post.
>                |

Ok, ok.  I knew what you were referring to, but I'd rather clap my 
hands than make a "S" shape.  :)  It would be pretty fun for the 
band (any football band) to play that song after a safety.  
---
Steve

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathleen Treole)
Subject: Ithaca College -- Division III
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:31:12 GMT

Would anyone happen to know how the Ithaca College Bombers are doing
this year?  They are defending National Champs for Division III, this year.

Thanks!

Kathy, a proud IC alum, now Buckeye fan!!
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Kathleen Treole                               ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

         Too many times we stand aside, and let the waters slip away
From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: Home field advantage... (was: what a game)
Keywords: Tech-NCSU
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:49:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.144012.27429@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad10.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>*In article <69840@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>*>DELIRIOUS.  In comes Mr. Clutch Scott Sisson who kicks the game winning FG
>*>as time runs out.  Final score: Tech 16 NCSU 13.  WHOO!  What a game.
>
>Yeah, the home field advantage.  Watch the reply, they showed it here
>in slow-mo.  The guy catches the ball with 2 seconds left and magically,
>the clock stops with 1 second left BEFORE the ref waves his arms to stop
>the clock.  Anywhere else time would've run out......
>
>Honestly, I wanted Tech to win.  But watch a reply.  The clock is 
--------------------------------
  
    Hmm, are you sure you won't be lynched coming into office tomorrow ?
 

>questionable (Sounding remarkably like a Kenny Anderson shot that-
>didn't-quite-beat-the-buzzer, but the refs allowed it :)
>
>-- 
>Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
>Math Graduate Student
>N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
>jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls