From: "kathy lessa" <kathy.lessa@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: golf shoes
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:22:43 EST
Reply-To: "kathy lessa" <kathy.lessa@execnet.com>
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IK>On the subject of women golfer, it amazes me how little respect women
IK>get from men on the golf course.  I once was playing with this pretty
IK>decent women golfer (probably a 12).  We got to a par 3 and the group
IK>on the tee waved us up.  The three men hit first.  When the group on
IK>the green saw that a women was going to hit next, they when right to
IK>their balls and started to putt.  This really pissed off our women golfer.

<Several funny, but sad-but-true stories deleted>

You sure hit the nail on the head.  I've played with my father twice
at 'his' course, a public course near where he lives.  On both
occasions, it was my Dad, myself and two other women.  On both
occasions, the range marshall has attached himself like a leach to
our foursome's hides and followed us about.  On both occasions, the
range marshall interrupted about every other hole to admonish us to
speed up our play -- when the foursome behind us was still FAR
behind, and we were literally scraping the heels of the foursome
ahead of us!  One time, we stopped in for a quick comfort break
before the back nine (like anyone else would), and he informed us
that we'd have to let the group behind us go ahead of us on the back
nine because we were holding things up.  We waited ten minutes,
sitting at the 10th hole tee box with this marshall beside us,
waiting for that next 'impatient, speedy' foursome to get up to the
tee box and move off!

On the second occasion, my dad, who's never been known to be
politically correct OR particularly a feminist, said, "why... this
is... this is DISCRIMINATION!"  No shit, dad!

I may not play that well, but I *do* keep up the game speed... but
it's always assumed that a female foursome is playing slowly.

One particular incident stands out in my mind.  A friend and I had
gotten a tee-time, and two 'walk-ons' were put in with us.  At the
first tee box, my (female) friend placed her ball on her tee and got
ready to swing, and one of these fellows stopped her, nearly in
mid-swing, and proceeded to tell her how to golf.  Mind you, we'd
never seen these two before, they had *no* idea whether we were
pro-calibre or rank beginners or somewhere in between... AND he'd had
the audacity to just blatantly interrupt her in a swing!

She heard him out patiently, then said, politely, "I'd prefer that
you not give me advice on my swing while we play, unless I request
it."  He interrupted these words to give her some MORE unsolicited
advice, as if he hadn't even heard her.  She finally said, a bit more
firmly, "You and I are going to have some *real* problems if you
don't drop the golf tips and leave me alone, okay?" and proceeded to
hit a pretty decent drive off the teebox.  she's actually a VERY good
golfer, been playing all her life.

All this time, his buddy was chuckling and saying to me, "I *told*
him he'd better shut up and let you girls play your own way!" <har
har har>.

Mr. Golf Tips was ticked off with his buddy, embarrassed I think by
my friend's refusal to listen to him... and on his tee shot managed
to loudly hit the tin shed which houses the carts, at almost a 90
degree angle from the teebox!

By the third hole, the two of them sped up play and yelled over their
shoulders that they were joining up with the foursome ahead of us,
and we bid them goodbye.
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