HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: flowers@memstvx1.memst.edu (Harry Flowers)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals
Subject: Re: How myths are born...
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:56:47 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <9208260710.AA10435@relay2.UU.NET>, "(Jon Pinkley, Westinghouse
 (216)486-8300 x1335)" writes:
> Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA, writes concerning
> MMG and VMS tuning in general:
> 
>>Lots of well-known "authorities" on VMS get these details wrong, repeatedly,
>>in print.  Professional courtesy prevents me from naming names.
> 
> Unfortunately, it isn't limited to software.  It seems that the "free" trade
> rags have lots of inaccurate "facts" in their columns.

It's not just the trade rags.  I attended the VMS Internals I & II courses
a couple of years ago.  The fellow who taught Internals II didn't really
understand memory management with regard to working sets and the working
set list.  I tried to set him straight, and even proved my point in lab,
but I'm still not sure he got it.  So, even "the horse's mouth" isn't
always reliable, and can spread mis-information.  I don't know if he could
explain the difference between BORROWLIM and GROWLIM today (the way he
explained things before, there could be no difference).

BTW, in fairness to DEC, the instructor for Internals I was excellent.
I just wish she had taught the second week, too.

And, of course, the net is a great source of mis-information! ;-)
I usually just wait and see if Ehud will go after them... ;-) ;-)
--
Harry Flowers                           Internet: FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU
Memphis State University                & Bitnet: FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1
From: "Steve Thompson, Cheme System Mangler" <olin@cheme.tn.cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals
Subject: format of .vue$dat files
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:47:40 EDT
Organization: Macro32<==>Vmsnet.Internals Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

DECwindows/Motif 1.0A, VMS 5.5-1

Does anyone have any documentation on the format of .VUE$DAT files? I need
to manipulation same (specifically DECW$SYSTEM_PROFILE.VUE$DAT in order
to add new system-wide applications). Or is there a better way of doing
this than fiddling directly with the files (can't find any customization
options to do this).
Thanks,

steve
From: MILLER@TGV.COM
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals
Subject: re: PATCH on ALPHA ?
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:09:28 GMT
Organization: Macro32<==>Vmsnet.Internals Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

>And he's modest too.

Yes, I am.

>I don't think I'd want to subject my customers to the headache of trying
>to manage patched images. DEC has been moving away from this as fast as
>they can, and for good reason. It's much too easy for a customer to mis-
>type a patch and really screw things up, and if you provide them with a
>file to do it for them, why not provide them with an updated image?

We generally distribute patches as DCL files to avoid problems like that.
On those occations when I need to read someone a patch over the phone
I have them read it back to me before they perform an update.  Then I ask
them to rerun patch and examine the new binary values before they run the
new image.  With Patch we can have a fix out to the customer within an hour
instead of the day or two it takes to ship a new tape.

Has any one else here had any problems using Patch?

-bruce
From: eowen@axion.bt.co.uk (Eddie Owen)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals
Subject: STACK LAYOUT IN SPECIAL KAST?
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: eowen@axion.bt.co.uk (Eddie Owen)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


I'm hacking some code to watch a process, and I want to see which procedures it's been calling.  Basically I send an IPL2 KAST to the process when it's CUR from some code on the timer queue, and I intend the KAST code to check previous call frames to find the saved PC.

What I need to know is :

When I'm in the KAST how can I find the saved PC, PSL and FP of the code I've interrupted, so that I can trace back through the stack.

Cheers

Eddie Owen

BT Software Development
Tel +44 473 645813
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From: mjensen@BBN.COM (Martin Jensen)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals,vmsnet.misc
Subject: Exit handlers in VAX-C
Date: 31 Aug 1992 15:43:25 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: na
Reply-To: mjensen@BBN.COM (Martin Jensen)
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    Thank you O Gods of VMS for a prompt and satisfying response to my
    earlier query!!  Now for the next question :-)

    I'm trying to write an exit handler for a VMS program written in
    VAX-C.  The various VMS manuals have left me a little confused as to
    the calling conventions for exit handlers.

    The Programming Resources Guide indicates that the exit handler
    should be written as a subroutine - implying (in my mind anyway) that
    the handler is called with a JSB and should return with a RSB.  Other
    documents seem to indicate that the handler is called as a normal
    procedure - implying (again, in my mind) that the handler is called
    with a CALL(S,G) and should return with a RET instruction.

    As you can't write subroutines in C, this leaves me stuck with MACRO
    if the first case is true.  If the second case is true, I can code it
    in C and stick it in a shared library (which for various reasons is
    the preferable way to go!).

    Any of you VMS gurus care to comment on the correct convention?

    Thanx.

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From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals
Subject: Re: DR bad, VAX PRO good
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:19:44 GMT
Reply-To: gwlester@cpu.com
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Computerized Processes Unlimited, Metairie, LA, (504)-889-2784

Joel,

In article <1SEP199210172255@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu>, jms@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu (Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem) writes:
>Well, as self-interested as I may be on the subject of Digital Review and
>Digital News, I think I'll respond to SCHENKENBERG@Monmouth-ETDL1.Army.MIL,
>murphy@npri6.npri.com, and others. 
>
>Suggesting that one should refuse to read anything in the same format as
>the National Enquirer betrays an astonishing parochialism.  Eliminating
>fee-free publications from your reading list will cause you to be
>ignorant of the nature of the industry you work in, probably more so than
>if you believed every word that Bill Hancock wrote.  You should be able to
>distinguish between fact and fantasy, between press release and media hype,
>and between correct and incorrect technical information. 

	The problem that at least some of us have is that we don't have time to
read all of sources of information.  I have eliminate DR from my list due to
the amount of material that I had to read to get new and useful information.

P.S. - I have a Matco mug for pointing out to DR that VMS does *NOT* run on 
       any of the PDP-11 series.
From: pat_barron@transarc.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Boot ROMS for SBC-11/21
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:42:05 GMT
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <pat+@transarc.com>

Does anyone have a set of boot/Macro-ODT ROMS for the SBC-11/21 that
they'd be willing to part with, cheap (but negotiable, of course...)?

Thanks,
--Pat.
From: wwonko@glia.biostr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: PDP-11/34 needs UNIX
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:35:52 GMT
Organization: Dept Biological Structure-University of Washington

We reecently got a PDP 11/34.  We now have it all up and running; however,
our OS is RSX 11M, and it's pretty lame.  We'd like a UNIX for it - so we
can have mail and news, reeally, but anything that could do those two
things would be better than this.

We have RK05J drives, and two 80MB DD11/80's.  Is there a UNIX for this
machine?  (BSD?)  Or is it a waste of our time to try?  Any help would
be appreciated.  

Respond via mail, and I'll summarize.
From: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: KERMIT for P/OS...
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:47:16 GMT
Reply-To: bqt@bern.docs.uu.se
Organization: The Internet
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>In article <CMM.0.90.0.714289266.bqt@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> bqt@bern.docs.uu.se writes:
>>Hi. Anybody (preferably in Sweden, but anywhere goes...) who could
>>lend me a copy of KERMIT-11 for P/OS. A friend of mine has a PRO-380,
>>but very little useful software. I'd liek to help him out, but I can't
>>get anything down on the darned machine, except normal text files, via
>>a lot of strange hacks in PRO/BASIC. Sigh!
>>Anyway, I know DECUS has lots of stuff, but DECUS is pretty expensive
>>in this case, so if anybody could just get KERMIT-11 on an RX50 in
>>FILES-11 format, that would be really great. He can either send the
>>person another RX50 formatted floppy in return, or return the one he
>>recieves. C'mon, prove to me that my faith in this group is well founded.
>
>Try ftp-site watsun.cc.columbia.edu (128.59.32.2), which contains probably
>all the kermits programmed in world. I have downloaded from there kermits
>for RT-11, RSX-11M, etc. There seems to be one also for P/OS in the
>subdirectory b.
>Then you must upload the hex-coded binary to that machine in some way
>and then decode it. (I modified the decoding program for RT-11 so that
>it reads the hex-stuff directly from the line, because 8" floppies of
>my PDT-11/150 were too slow for uploading the stuff first with
>COPY TY: FILE.EXT command. I can post it if you need it. It is in assembly.)

Well, actually, the problem wasn't obtaining the files, but getting
them down and running on the PRO. The PRO had almost nor software at
all, so I could not get a de-hexifier program to run. After much
fiddling, I managed to write a new de-hexifier program for the PRO.
I'll probably submit it to columbia...

Thanks anyway.

Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
CS student at Uppsala University  ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se       ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Subject: Re: memory board problems with 11/34 running RT-11
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:08:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.171343.27826@cs.cornell.edu> chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman) writes:
>I have a DEC memory card, labelled M7891 128K x 18 MOS MEMORY, I want
>to use in an 11/34 running RT-11. I do not know how to set the DIP
>switches (there are two banks, one with 9 switches, one with 4).
>
>I was told that the card, as is, "is configured to be the only memory
>in the system".  However, when I replace the memory card I have been
>using (Monolithic Memories card that I do have documentation for, and
>which works with both RT11FB and RT11XM v5.2) with this M7891, RT11
>hangs (doesn't halt) from an RK05, with either FB or XM monitor.  XXDP
>boots with either memory board. I know from the RT11 manuals that the
>FB monitor expects a maximum of 28K memory, and will hang if the
>system doesn't generate the proper signal. I tried the patch described
>in the RT11 installation and system generation manual so that FB does
>not look for memory above 28K, but even that did not help. And, the XM
>monitor should run fine with that much memory, right? Any help would
>be appreciated.  Yours, Richard Chapman
>
>
Sorry I do not have a configuration for that board handy.

RT11FB or sj, xm or bl will boot from a system containing more memory.



If XXDP works and FB,XM don't look for 1 of several problems.

1) Too little memory enabled, or perhaps wrong starting address.


2) Screwed up interrupt chain or perhaps DMA chain.  Do you have an
   empty slot, wired for DMA board w/o a bus grant jumper installed.
   XXDP does not use interrupts (it polls!).

3) My memory is dim, but I believe the 11/34 was the only unibus 
   machine that could be set up to use a small i/o page (2k).  Q-bus
   RT11SJ/FB users could get an extra 2K that way (30 vs 28 kw memory).  
   This required a patch in SJ, FB.  It's deadly to XM and unpatched
   monitors.


What address does it hang at?



Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa Student Computer Assoc)
Subject: Need RA60 disk packs and/or RC25 interface
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:13:08 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa


  I've got a PDP 11/44 that I'd like to get working.  All I currently
have for disk on it is a RA60 drive - with no media.  Does anyone have
any packs that they'd be willing to sell reasonably cheap?

  As an alternative, I've got two RC25 drives - I remember seeing one of
these on a Vax 11/725 (wish I'd kept it now).  Is there an interface for
Unibus for this drive and does anyone have one they'd be willing to
part with?

  Thanks
     - dave

  
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: morris@eng.umd.edu (Morris S. Berman)
Subject: Editor for RT-11
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 22:17:02 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Summary: Looking for editor for RT-11
Keywords: editor, rt-11

Does anyone know of a good PD editor for RT-11.  How about
just any editor? I need to be able to make small modifications
to some text files without the need to ftp the file away and then
ftp it back.

thankx,

morris
From: 4carroll_j@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: zmodem source
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:45:28 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

Hi,
	Does anyone know where I can ftp the source code for
VAX/VMS zmodem?

Thanks 
Jim C.

(4carroll_j@spcvxa.spc.edu)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: brumby@nella11.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara)
Subject: Serial and bootcard help wanted
Summary: Help with M8043 and M8012-YA wanted
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:57:44 GMT

   I have recently been given the pieces and some documentation for a
PDP-11/03-L which I am trying to get running. Having never encountered
a PDP before I am not getting very far.

   The first problem is the 4 port serial card for which I have no docs.
It is marked M8043 and is supposed to be set with one port at 9600 baud
as the console. Can anyone tell me which jumper connections I should check
to see if this is so? So far I haven't been able to get anything from the
card.

   The other board about which I have no docs is the bootstrap/bus terminator,
maarked M8012-YA. I'd like to know whether the 5 lit LEDs means all working
or all dead. :-) I'd also like to know what the switch settings are.

   If I can get to the ODT prompt I will undoubtedly be back with more
questions. Thanks in advance.


-- 
     The Silver Brumby of          brumby@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
      the Silicon Plains

      The grass is always greener on the other side of the network.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: scsi
From: <gfrajkor@ccs.carleton.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:00:27 EDT
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <pat+@transarc.com>
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

:  >  A better suggestion (if there are any left) is that Greenweld (a surplus
:  >dealer) in Southampton England have some Q-BUS to SCSI boards in their
:  >sale at the moment. They behave as MSCP devices to the PDP, and control
:  >any SCSI device. The prioce is an unbeleivable 10 pounds (about $20)
:  >BTW, they are new and boxed with manuals.

Last time I checked, the price for something like this was circa
$1000, so I'd given up on the idea.  Could someone post the
information on how to get to these folks...

        Was any information about this board ever posted after the
initial mention?  If it was, I missed it.  The device is something I
badly need.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman)
Subject: memory board problems with 11/34 running RT-11
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:13:43 GMT

I have a DEC memory card, labelled M7891 128K x 18 MOS MEMORY, I want
to use in an 11/34 running RT-11. I do not know how to set the DIP
switches (there are two banks, one with 9 switches, one with 4).

I was told that the card, as is, "is configured to be the only memory
in the system".  However, when I replace the memory card I have been
using (Monolithic Memories card that I do have documentation for, and
which works with both RT11FB and RT11XM v5.2) with this M7891, RT11
hangs (doesn't halt) from an RK05, with either FB or XM monitor.  XXDP
boots with either memory board. I know from the RT11 manuals that the
FB monitor expects a maximum of 28K memory, and will hang if the
system doesn't generate the proper signal. I tried the patch described
in the RT11 installation and system generation manual so that FB does
not look for memory above 28K, but even that did not help. And, the XM
monitor should run fine with that much memory, right? Any help would
be appreciated.  Yours, Richard Chapman
From: brian@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Brian Nelson)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: KERMIT for P/OS...
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:06:26 GMT
Organization: The Internet
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I thought I posted this a bit ago...

One can obtain k11pos.tsk via anon ftp from ftp.utoledo.edu

brian
From: havemann_l@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: Need RA60 disk packs and/or RC25 interface
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:54:01 GMT
Organization: Lee Havemann, HSH Associates

In article <1992Aug25.181308.3468@news.uiowa.edu>, isca@icaen.uiowa.edu (Iowa Student Computer Assoc) writes:
> 
>   I've got a PDP 11/44 that I'd like to get working.  All I currently
> have for disk on it is a RA60 drive - with no media.  Does anyone have
> any packs that they'd be willing to sell reasonably cheap?
> 
>   As an alternative, I've got two RC25 drives - I remember seeing one of
> these on a Vax 11/725 (wish I'd kept it now).  Is there an interface for
> Unibus for this drive and does anyone have one they'd be willing to
> part with?
> 
>   Thanks
>      - dave
> 
>   
> -- 
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What a coincidence!  I happen to have lying around here a KLESI-UA board (M8739
rev E1) that would fit your needs perfectly.... It will control either a TU81
or a RC25 drive... I would consider selling it if you need it...

-- 

 Lee Havemann, Sys_op    HSH Associates          (201) 838-3330 
 Havemann_l@spcvxa.spc.edu      -      Havemann_l@spcvxa.bitnet
 "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of anyone else, 
  including myself."                     
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: bowring@olin.dsd.es.com (Chuck Bowring)
Subject: Disk Packs For Sale
Reply-To: bowring@olin.dsd.es.com (Chuck Bowring)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:19:25 GMT

I have RL01, RL02, RK07, RM03 and RM05 Disk Packs
For Sale .. Best offer until 9/18/92. If you are
interested send offers to:

bowring@dsd.es.com

Thanks,

Chuck
From: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se (Johnny Billquist)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: More on TU78 connected to a pdp-11/70
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:10:22 GMT
Reply-To: bqt@bern.docs.uu.se
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <pat+@transarc.com>

Well, maybe someone can give some real light here, otherwise
I give up.

I have tried using the TU78 on my 11/70. After modifing the MFDRV source
under M+, and setting the RH70 to use 24 registers, I managed to get
M+ to recognize the TU78. However, I got a hard timeout every time I
tried mounting a tape. I read all the documentation I have on the TU78,
and it said that the TM78 formatter don't recognize some massbus controllers
correctly, and don't work with them. I tried reading the registers of
the TU78 from the 11/70 front panel, and some registers look fine.
However, two registers don't come across at all. The drive serial number,
and the drive status gives all zeros.
I have now connected the TU78 to our DEC-2060, and it works great there,
so the tape drive is ok. Also, I've tried different RH70 controllers,
but with no success. So, does anybody have any suggestions on what I might be
doing wrong, or can anyone confirm my suspicion that the TM78 don't want
to talk with the RH70...


Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
CS student at Uppsala University  ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se       ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
From: odd@ccsab.ccs.se (Odd Gripenstam)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.test
Subject: Test
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:52:16 GMT
Organization: CCS Sweden AB

test
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From: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.test
Subject: Re: ignore
Date: 29 Aug 1992 10:53:14 +0200
Organization: INSA Informatique, Lyon, France
NNTP-Posting-Host: grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr

In article <24AUG92.08515304@vger.niddk.nih.gov> ghc@vger.niddk.nih.gov writes:
>ignore

maybe...

-- 
Christophe Wolfhugel    |    Email: Christophe.Wolfhugel@univ-lyon1.fr
   "No keyboard, press F1 to continue"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.test
From: ghc@vger.niddk.nih.gov
Subject: ignore
Organization: NIH K-LMB, Molecular Structure
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:45:24 GMT

ignore
From: chetan@imtech.ernet.in (Chetan Premani)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.test
Subject: Does one get automated replies to vmsnet.test posts?
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:41:13 +0530
Distribution: world
Organization: Inst. of Microbial Technology, Chandigarh, India

I wonder if there are any sites that automatically respond to messages posted
here, so at the risk of getting hundreds of automated replies here goes
this test!

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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 12:03:43 EDT
From: <GZDBB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.test
Subject: test

 This is test.
Xref: sparky vmsnet.test:527 ga.test:72
From: anonymous@here
Newsgroups: vmsnet.test,ga.test
Subject: test no reply ignore
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:39:50 GMT
Organization: ack inc.
Originator: bill-the-cat
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              staff, functions, or entity of ack, inc.


test#2
testing testing 1,2,3
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