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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:50:35 -0400
From:         gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 566

In this issue:
            REMINDER: LARRY'S ANGELS -- EAST COAST PREMIERE
 REMINDER: EAST COAST PREMIERE -- LARRY'S ANGELS    (with corrections)
                    BGALA at Haverford and Bryn Mawr
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 565
                         COUNTERACTING THE AFA!
                         Visiting Charlotte, NC
                    Democratic Convention side note
                            catholic bashing
                              movies, etc.
          more on Barry Goldwater's "conservatism/conversion"
                   GEORGE MICHAEL'S "TOO FUNKY" VIDEO
                             The Vat's Rat
                          re Cincinnati news.

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Resent-Date:  Tue, 21 Jul 92 08:06:53 EDT
Resent-From: Vinnie Russo <VRUSSO@mitvmc.mit.edu>
Resent-To: gaynet@Athena.MIT.EDU, gamit-people@Athena.MIT.EDU
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 15:23:15 PDT
From: "A. Ropeburn" <teicher@us.oracle.com>
Subject: REMINDER: LARRY'S ANGELS -- EAST COAST PREMIERE
Original-To: angels_full

- --------------------------Original message----------------------------


Don't forget about the East Coast Premiere of Larry's Angels in "The Russian
Red Case" that will be held in Boston *THIS SATURDAY*.

Please forward this announcement to all of your friends and loved ones in
the Boston area.  They won't want to miss this!

-Tim

********************************************************************************

  Audry Ropeburn     in      "LARRY'S ANGELS"

  Director   Producer   Casting Director   Angel

              * S T A R *



- -- Included Message ----

Received: 07-07-92 13:43                         Sent: 07-07-92 13:43
From: teicher.US1
To: angels_ec
Subject: LARRY'S ANGELS -- EAST COAST PREMIERE
Cc: angels_cast


Here is the announcement for the East Coast premiere of the movie "Larry's
Angels", The Russian Red Case.

Please distribute this to all of your friends and try to get people to show up.
It'll definitely be a lot of fun.  If you have any questions about it, you can
contact me at (415) 863-8454 or (415) 506-6174.

-Tim

===============================================================================



		*************************************
		**				   **
		**	      ANNOUNCING	   **
                **				   **
		**     THE EAST COAST PREMIERE	   **
		**				   **
		**		  OF		   **
		**				   **
		**	   "LARRY'S ANGELS"	   **
		**				   **
		**		  IN		   **
		**				   **
		**	 THE RUSSIAN RED CASE	   **
		**				   **
	        *************************************


"Larry's Angels", The Russian Red Case, is a campy, 90's, drag version
of "Charlie's Angels"!  Don't miss what may be your ONLY chance to see
Larry's Angels on the East Coast!  Audiences in San Francisco can't
get enough!

Also showing will be the short film "CONDOMS ARE A GIRLS BEST FRIEND",
which was recently shown at the San Francisco International Lesbian
and Gay Film Festival!

There will also be special guest appearances by local celebrity drag
personalities!

DON'T MISS THIS FABULOUS EVENT!  TELL ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS!

When: Saturday, July 25th.  9pm.
Where: MIT Room 6-120.
Cost:  $5.00.  1/2 price in drag!

 *** Proceeds to benefit The Theater Offensive and Aids Action Committee ***


A Map of MIT can be found in the lobby at 77 Mass Ave in Cambridge.

For more information, contact the Angel Line at (415) 863-8454 or the
MIT Film Office at (617) 253-3599.




==============================

About "The Russian Red Case"

==============================


In The Russian Red Case, the Angels are faced with the awesome responsibility
of recovering Madonna's stolen Russian Red lipstick.  The entire Blond Ambition
tour hangs in the balance!  Madonna can't go on without her lipstick, and the
list of suspects is formidable!  Was it Kevin Costless, upset over Madonna's
dishing in her documentary, Leona Curb who is a vicious little vamp out to get
anyone more glamorous, more successful, and more beatiful than herself, or was
it Tina Turntable, a professional rival of Madonna jealous of Madonna's
material success?  Only the Angels can find out and recover the stolen
lipstick!

Angels:

Audry Ropeburn - Audry will stop at *nothing* to solve the case, especially
        if it involves seducing hot men!

Bambi Bottoms -  Bambi would be blond no matter what color hair she had!
        And watch out for her "killer" breasts!

Crystal Vallarta Flame - Crystal starts out each day by sharpening her tongue!
        She makes Leona Helmsley look like Susie Sunshine.

Bosley - The young gay professional with all the sweaters keeps the Angels in
        line during their quest for the missing lipstick.



********************************************************************************

  Audry Ropeburn     in      "LARRY'S ANGELS"

  Director   Producer   Casting Director   Angel

              * S T A R *

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Resent-Message-Id: <9207211207.AA10993@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Resent-Date:  Tue, 21 Jul 92 08:07:45 EDT
Resent-From: Vinnie Russo <VRUSSO@mitvmc.mit.edu>
Resent-To: gamit-people@Athena.MIT.EDU, gaynet@Athena.MIT.EDU
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 15:32:38 PDT
From: "A. Ropeburn" <teicher@us.oracle.com>
Subject: REMINDER: EAST COAST PREMIERE -- LARRY'S ANGELS    (with corrections)
Original-To: angels_full

- --------------------------Original message----------------------------

Here is an updated copy of the announcement for the East Coast Premiere.  This
contains a few corrections from the previous announcement.

Please distribute this to all of your friends in the Boston area, and
encourage them to show up. It'll definitely be a lot of fun.

-Tim

===============================================================================



		*************************************
		**				   **
		**	      ANNOUNCING	   **
                **				   **
		**     THE EAST COAST PREMIERE	   **
		**				   **
		**		  OF		   **
		**				   **
		**	   "LARRY'S ANGELS"	   **
		**				   **
		**		  IN		   **
		**				   **
		**	 THE RUSSIAN RED CASE	   **
		**				   **
	        *************************************


"Larry's Angels", The Russian Red Case, is a campy, 90's, drag version
of "Charlie's Angels"!  Don't miss what may be your ONLY chance to see
Larry's Angels on the East Coast!  Audiences in San Francisco can't
get enough!

Also showing will be the short film "CONDOMS ARE A GIRLS BEST FRIEND",
which was recently shown at the San Francisco International Lesbian
and Gay Film Festival!

There will also be special guest appearances by local celebrity drag
personalities!

DON'T MISS THIS FABULOUS EVENT!  TELL ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS!

When: Saturday, July 25th.  9pm.
Where: MIT Room 6-120.
Cost:  $5.00.  1/2 price in drag!

 *** Proceeds to benefit The Theater Offensive and The Boston Living Center ***


A Map of MIT can be found in the lobby at 77 Mass Ave in Cambridge.

For more information, contact the Angel Line at (415) 863-8454 or the
MIT Film Office at (617) 253-3599.




==============================

About "The Russian Red Case"

==============================


In The Russian Red Case, the Angels are faced with the awesome responsibility
of recovering Madonna's stolen Russian Red lipstick.  The entire Blond Ambition
tour hangs in the balance!  Madonna can't go on without her lipstick, and the
list of suspects is formidable!  Was it Kevin Costless, upset over Madonna's
dishing in her documentary, Leona Curb who is a vicious little vamp out to get
anyone more glamorous, more successful, and more beatiful than herself, or was
it Tina Turntable, a professional rival of Madonna jealous of Madonna's
material success?  Only the Angels can find out and recover the stolen
lipstick!

Angels:

Audry Ropeburn - Audry will stop at *nothing* to solve the case, especially
        if it involves seducing hot men!

Bambi Bottoms -  Bambi would be blond no matter what color hair she had!
        And watch out for her "killer" breasts!

Crystal Vallarta Flame - Crystal starts out each day by sharpening her tongue!
        She makes Leona Helmsley look like Susie Sunshine.

Bosley - The young gay professional with all the sweaters keeps the Angels in
        line during their quest for the missing lipstick.


********************************************************************************

  Audry Ropeburn     in      "LARRY'S ANGELS"

  Director   Producer   Casting Director   Angel

              * S T A R *

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:59 EDT
From: ERIK <E_OLIVER@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU>
Subject: BGALA at Haverford and Bryn Mawr

Well it has been a long time since I've gotten gaynet for various reasons, but
in the slow summer season I thought it would be fun to subscribe again.  I
wanted to thank ppl for the info about Levi's, BnkAmerCorp, and WellsFargo I
called them all and posted on our internal notes system so that other ppl here
would call.

INFORMATION ABOUT BGALA at Bryn Mawr and Haverford Colleges

BGALA is the Bisexual Gay and Lesbian Alliance at Bryn Mawr and Haverford
Colleges.  We are Bi-College organization that receives student funds through
the Bi-College Student Budgeting process, additionally both campuses maintain
independently sponsored libraries and lounges.

Co-Heads for 92-93: Erik Oliver HC'94 and Amy Split BMC'95

E-MAIL ADDRESS: BGALA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU
Note: our former address, BGALA@CC.BRYNMAWR.EDU is no longer available because
the machine no longer exists, at a later date we may get another account at
BMC.

Events for 92-93 are still being planned.
More info forthcoming.
(BMC = Bryn Mawr College, HC = Haverford College)

:-) Erik Oliver
E_OLIVER@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:52:49 EDT
From: georgick@hal.hahnemann.edu
Subject: RE: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 565

Andrea-

Regarding your friend from Yugoslavia can you be more specific about what her
needs are?  Does she need places to stay while she travels?  Is she just
 lookingfor mail contacts?  Is she actually compiling an Eastern European
 Feminist
Anthology?  It sounds like an interesting project, but I am not sure I can
 offerher any assistance.  Depending on what she needs, I might be able to get
 her in
touch with some folks who could help, though.

While you're at it, could you send some of those cows and a bit of contentment
this way?  College I've had enough of, but I never seem to learn my lesson :)

Tamara
georgick@hal.hahnemann.edu

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Date:        Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:54:15 EDT
From: "AAKL000@CATCC.bitnet  Kevin S. Lowery Catonsville"
 <AAKL%CATCC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: COUNTERACTING THE AFA!

I would like to add to the urgency to call the people who have
supported us by dropping funding to the BSA!  Well, I called Levi
Straus and plan to call the others.  Now, please mention to them
that you plan to purchase their product in the near future as well.
That will show in a material way that you support them.  Remember,
talk is cheap, it takes money to buy land!

________________________________________________________________________
\ think  /  Kevin S. Lowery            | Read, Read, Harass the Breed!
 \ pink /   Catonsville Com. College   | Twirl, Twirl, Get it Girl!
  \    /    800 South Rolling Road     | Flame, Flame, Don't Be Tame!
   \  /     Catonsville, MD 21228      | Swish, Swish, Avoid that Fish!
    \/      AAKL000@CATCC.BITNET       |     -- Me, the Prissy Queen

------------------------------

From: chuckmc@kailand.kai.com (Chuck McCaffrey)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:30:25 CDT
Organization: Kuck and Associates, 1906 Fox Drive, Champaign IL USA 61820-7334,
 voice 217-356-2288, fax 217-356-5199
Subject: Visiting Charlotte, NC

I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina, from the early evening of Monday,
August 3 to mid-afternoon on Sunday, August 9.  I'll be at a conference
and won't have much free time, but I would be interested in meeting anyone
from this mailing list who also happens to be there.  Respond by email
direct to me.  Thanks!


-
            Chuck McCaffrey chuckmc@kai.com uunet!kailand!chuckmc
          Cast off your garments of fear and replace them with love

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:13:29 CDT
From: tpm@anat.UMSMED.EDU (Terence P. Ma)
Subject: Democratic Convention side note

I don't remember seeing it here or in any other news, so I thought I
would pass this along.

Last night, I was reading the report "Roll Call," the "newspaper of
Capitol Hill," on the Democratic National Convention.  In it was a
picture of Barney Frank and his "companion" Herb Moss.  In addition, it
also reported that Moss had attended one of the "swankiest" events that
week, the Congressional Wife's Tea, and was sporting a gold
Congressional spouse pin.

Nice to see.
--
Terence P. Ma, Ph.D.		Department of Anatomy
VOICE:	   601-984-1654		University of Mississippi Med. Ctr.
FAX:	   601-984-1655		2500 North State Street
INTERNET:  tpm@anat.UMSMED.EDU	Jackson, MS 39216-4505

- > If it were easy, some one would have done it already. Anon. <--

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Medlin <jmedlin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: catholic bashing
Mime-Version: 1.0

Yes, I'm a few days behind in catching up on my posts.  I thought Greg
Pratt's essay on Catholic-bashing was quite to the point, except that it
applies to the bashing of any group.  I've known Baptist fundamentalists
who were quite accepting of homosexuality and its ramifications.  Well,
one, anyway.  It's wise, though difficult, to confine one's JUSTIFIED
bashing to the specific target being bashed, not the general category into
which the target fits.

And the O'Connor/gonorrhea computer comment certainly made my day!  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gaynet
From: denmak@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Michele Keffer)
Subject: movies, etc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Organization: University at Buffalo
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:06:00 GMT
Apparently-To: gaynet@athena.mit.edu

Bravo to Gabriel for his talk on art and movies.  We can talk about
how high and above reproach art is, but the fact is, art for
mass consumption is mass communication, and when attitudes are
conveyed that gays are abberant and abhorrent, this message
gets across to lots of people who don't have the critical
thinking skills to debate it. I'm not calling for censorship,
but it seems really blind to me to say that movies don't impact
the audience, and that people shouldn't be responsible for the
messages they send out. If someone passed out a hate tract
against gays or blacks you wouldn't say that it was somehow
protected or that only "stupid" peole would read it so it
doesn't hurt anything.  Repeated messages tend to become
engrained, and the familiar is comforting- that's been
proven over and over in the last 100 years of social science
research.   Media, whether we call it art of not, has a
definite impact on the audience.
I want to note with some amusement and some annoyance as
well, that it always seems to be the most smug people on
the net who accuse others of arrogance. We all have our own
little political agendas and seem to be quite quick to
accuse everyone else of forcing their political agenda on
us if they express a strong opinion....
Oh, I wanted to say thanks to Jessea, too, for her comment
that the average Joe doesn't make the distinctions those
of us who are gay/queer/whatever, do.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:01:47 -0700
From: Jessea N. R. Greenman <jnrg@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: more on Barry Goldwater's "conservatism/conversion"

I had posted an AP article quoting Goldwater's press conference
statement in Phoenix (appropriately symbolic name, that). I had
said that I thought it showed a lot of integrity for him to
stick to his small "c" conservative views which DO uphold
individual liberty so long as one's actions harm no one else.
Goldwater said he couldn't imagine how being gay could harm someone
else.
Then I learned that Goldwater has a gay son.  So, apparently on e
can interpret Goldwater's stance as true "c" conservative or
entirely personal OR both.  In other words, we have another
illustration of the power of the personal connection, and of
coming out.  I say "bravo" for Barry's traditional family values
of loyalty and love.  This as contrasted to the actuality
of ANCIENT PREJUDICES espoused by Lou Sheldon and his ilk under
the guise of their ill-named "Traditional Values Coalition."
Let's reclaim the phrases "traditional values," "traditional
family values," and "family values" by using them whenever possible
to refer to ourselves, our families (however defined by us), ou8r
friends, and our lives.  Let's call the erstwhile TVC what it
really is: the Ancient Prejudices Coalition."
AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT!

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:33 PDT
From: Luis Balmaseda                       <ECZ5LRB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: GEORGE MICHAEL'S "TOO FUNKY" VIDEO

I'd been waiting to see George's new video ever since the rumor in the
Community had it as queer friendly/queer positive or that it had a queer
sensibility.

I saw it last night, and did I miss something?  Sure, it's got some high
glamour, but is that a "gay sensibility"?

It's got George looking at ultra-femme models through a camera with a
huge phallic tube.  I guess he "possesses" the women through the camera.
And all this time, he sports a straight-acting/appearing scowl.

Please, videophiles, set me straight, I mean, right.  What is the deal
with this video?

------------------------------

Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 92  12:50:51 CDT
From: jjscally <JJSCALLY%UKANVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:      The Vat's Rat

The recent "bash a fag for Jesus" note from the Vatican came out of
the Rat's office (that's Cardinal Ratzinger), the Congregation for the
Doctrine of the Faith, fondly recalled by many of us as the Holy Office,
aka The Inquisition.  It is NOT a statement of dogma, or an order, or
anything particularly binding.  It is a restatement of earlier Vat/Rat
pronouncements and basically contains nothing new, other than to call
for (indirectly of course, this being the Vatican) discriminating against
queers directly.  It was a letter sent to U.S. bishops.  Those who want
to make use of it can.  Those who don't, need not.  It will doubtless
surface in DC and perhaps in other cities where gay rights ordinances
are being considered or already on the books.  If he wishes, for example,
the bishop of Portland OR could use it to throw more weight behind the
anti-gay ballot issue in Oregon.  Or he could ignore it and send a
signal to Oregon catholics.
     To be "fair" (why on earth would I want to be fair to them?), it
doesn't really call for discrimination against queers.  It just "reminds"
Catholics that if they want to discriminate, that's just fine, since
queers are de facto mentally ill, a threat to children, destructive
of the family, and in general an assault on the moral fibre of society.
(Somehow this all sounds familiar.  Could someone check Rev. Wildmon's
baptismal record, please?  And see if he's into white drag.)

It's perfectly OK to be queer and Catholic, in the Vat's eyes, as long
as you have no sexual life whatever--unless it's with someone of
another gender.  But even if you are celibate, if you're still queer,
it's also perfectly fine to fire you from your job, take away your
kids or keep you from adopting, refuse to rent you an apartment, keep
you from being a teacher or a coach, keep you out of the military.
Nothing wrong with any of that, since you're sick to start with and no
one should have to be exposed to sickoes.

Clear?

Jim Scally
U of Kansas

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jul 1992 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: usr3051a@tso.uc.EDU (Steve Edwards)
Subject: re Cincinnati news.
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

Hi Mark,

Sorry about the late response, but I've let my email pile up all week as
usual!

My job has me temporarily living in Lexington, KY, but I go back to Cincinnati
every weekend because it's a metropolis compared to this place.  (I know
that's pathetic, but you gotta make the best of what you've got!)

I go to the Dock most weekends and haven't noticed any increased tension or
violence with patrons of the Cincinnati Surf Club.  (For those of you who
don't know--The Dock is Cinti.'s biggest gay bar, and the Surf Club is a
nearby straight bar.)  In fact, I didn't even realize they had "after hours".
As for the Vine St. business district in Clifton, things always get a little
tense there during the summer--usually racially related stuff.  Two or three
years ago they had mounted policemen (hmmm...) patrolling the area for several
weeks.  I don't see the local news, so I don't know if it's been a big problem
this year.

In other bar-related news, there are some new places to check out.  A dance
bar called The Warehouse opened at 1313 Vine St. about 2 months ago.  (Yes,
that's smack in the middle of Over-the-Rhine, a very bad part of town.)  The
decor is kind of a post-nuclear industrial look--pretty neat if you like that
sort of thing.  It's opened on Wed., Fri. & Sat. with after hours (not sure
about Wed.), but doesn't have a liquor license yet.  The crowd's young at this
point (mostly 18-22?) and about 80%-90% gay (like the Metro/Clubhouse back in
it's day).  It's pretty big and very popular right now.

Across the street a block north is another dance bar called Device.  The
music is mostly heavy industrial with the same type crowd as The Warehouse.
I'm pretty sure they haven't gotten a liquor license yet, either.  This place
is small with a pretty stark interior (mostly black walls and flashing white
lights), but I love the music there.

If those two don't interest you, a new gay bar called The Ballpark is supposed
to open on the corner of Walnut and Central Pkwy. within the next few weeks.
A couple of the guys who work at the Pipeline are leaving to work there.  From
what I've heard, it's going to be a medium-sized dance bar, and should
compete directly with The Dock.  I'm assuming this place will have a liquor
license from the start.  Frankly, I'm a little shocked to see another
"officially gay" bar openning in such a conservative city, but I love it!

I only look at my email about once a week, but feel free to write me directly
if you'd like!  ...Later.

-
It'S.M.E.,
Steve M. Edwards
<usr3051a@tso.uc.edu>

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