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From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Boxing Day tradition?
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:16:31 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <BznzoJ.5u3@brunel.ac.uk> Alan.Holmes@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes) writes:
> Yvette wrote:
> >Can  anyone  give me an expanded explaination  of Boxing  Day   and what
> >takes place in England  today?
> 
> Traditionally, Boxing Day is the day for parties.

Spending the money from the box, I assume :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: mrush@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Mark Rush)
Subject: Re: Banned: ``Happy Holidays'' [sic]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:49:55 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Washington & Lee University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hear hear!

in the states, the PC (political correctness) forces are having their 
way with Christmas.  Public School's are being forced, increasingly,
to have their calendar rewritten to refer to "winter break"--not
Christmas.  THe most absurd example of all this bullshit is a story
of some locally-funded choir:  since it is supported by public 
funds, it's city (or town) council forbade it from singing 
Christmas carols at its annual Christmas--errrrrrr, HOLIDAY (wink,
wink, nudge, nudge)--concert for fear the city might be accused
of breaching the first amendment's establshment of religion clause.

Rather sad to think that people have nothing better to do than try to 
destroy the happiness of others.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: More silly songs.
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 18:12:47 GMT

Quick, before the 12 days are over......

On the first day of Christmas my True Love sent to me,
The Lord Montagu of Beaulieu.

On the second day of Christmas my True Love sent to me,
Two Boy Scouts
And the Lord Montagu of Beaulieu.

That's my limit: who knows the rest?

Notes for 'Merkuns et al: "Beaulieu" is pronounced "Bewley" in the UK.  The
Lord Montagu was allegedly involved in certain practices that newspapers 
love to broadcast to the world.  The song was apparently a celebration of 
this particular scandal.

--
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||Dave Jones (dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com)|Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY  |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: gardner_c@apollo.hp.com (Cal Gardner)
Subject: Re: Tell me about the crack, and Rajah Brooke
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:29:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <20191.2b36e958@ul.ie> mckeonj@ul.ie writes:
>In article <BzHGAn.J2s@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, streater@jupiter.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater) writes:
>> In article <91AH028A2fvK01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee) writes:
>> No, it is Nitrogen tri-iodide. Made by dissolving iodine crystals in an ammonia
>> solution. You get a brown sludge that is NI3 I think and is OK while it's damp.
>> Once dry, though, the slightest shock and it explosively decomposes. (Er, so I'm
>> told, Officer, er, er!).
>I recall making this brown sludge, and sprinkling it on the floor
>of the Rajah Brooke room at the Imperial Forestry Institute
>in South Parks Road Oxford, for the staff Christmas Social, sometime
>in the mid-fifties. Wonderful effect as people danced around.
>By the way, who was Rajah Brooke?
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>-- 
>"If England sleeps, shall Ireland dream?" : Se/an macEoin
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>John McKeon, Material Science Dept. University of Limerick, Ireland

                                  
Lookup Sarawak in a postage stamp catalog and study the portraits.

Cal gardner_c@apollo.hp.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Christmas mesage to s.c.b.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:27:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In hus own inimitable style,yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>   [ . . . . . .]
>Also, beware of gift-barers.

Am I supposed to unwrap my presents?
-- 
John Francis                                 johnf@apollo.hp.com
with 9 cats to feed, I don't have time to think up a clever .sig
From: tgray@igc.apc.org (Tom Gray)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: --Body Shop & Wind vs. CO2
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:55:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1472200003:000:2888
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tgray    Dec 29 12:55:00 1992


/* Written  9:37 am  Oct  1, 1992 by tgray@igc.apc.org in igc:en.energy */

BODY SHOP WILL USE WIND TO
OFFSET CO2 PRODUCTION
 
The Body Shop, a tremendously successful cosmetics firm based in
the United Kingdom that has made environmental consciousness a
centerpiece of its business philosophy, announced in May that it
plans to use a windfarm to offset carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions
associated with its electricity consumption.
 
The Body Shop and its founder, Anita Roddick, have become well-
known in recent years for policies such as recycling its
containers, banning the use of animals in testing its cosmetic
products, and campaigning to halt the destruction of the Earth's
rain forests.  Such well-publicized efforts on behalf of the
environment have led to fanatically devoted customers, according to
Inc. magazine, and explosive growth in sales.
 
The trade newsletter Global Environmental Change Report said the
firm is seeking to identify a site for a wind project that would
produce 10 million kWh of electricity annually -- about the same
amount as its headquarters operations in Watersmead, West Sussex,
consume.  Although the Watersmead facility would not obtain its
electricity directly from wind, a spokesperson said, the windfarm
would effectively make it "CO2-neutral."
 
The spokesperson said The Body Shop is also setting energy
efficiency targets for all of its United Kingdom facilities and
will install renewable energy systems where feasible.  The company
plans to erect a wind turbine to power a new visitor center in
Watersmead, the article said.
 
For further information, contact John Grounds, The Body Shop,
Watersmead, Littlehampton, West Sussex BN17 6LS, United Kingdom,
phone 011-44-903-731-500, fax 011-71-726-115.  Copies of the
company's environmental self-audit are available for five pounds.
 
===============================

The American Wind Energy Association (AWEA) has authorized me to offer
an electronic edition of its newsletter, _Wind Energy Weekly_, from
which the above article is excerpted, at no cost.

For those of you who have not previously seen excerpts from back issues
on Usenet or Bitnet, the _Weekly_ reports on the outlook for renewable
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sp@osf.org (Simon Patience)
Subject: Re: Christmas mesage to s.c.b.
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:33:17 GMT

In article <yBBZVB5w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
> Christmas.  A time to celebrate the birth of Christ.

More like, 

Christmas. A time to go out and reflate the economy by buying all the
relatives expensive gifts and stocking the larder and drinks cabinet for 
the impending gain in weight.

> Also the time for Britons to fear the IRA.  And this year, the crown in 
> crisis.
> 
> This year, I would like to say merry Christmas to you all!
> 
> Peace on Earth definitely! Let all Britons, English, Socts, Irish and 
> welsh (Cyrmite) all come together in brotherly love.

Peace, except the bits that the IRA get to. Is Cyrmite a new type of
explosive?

> Cheers mate, and let be happy during this festive season,

I would also like to thank Dave for making 1992 a much more amusing year 
than it would have otherwise been. Now, where's that sherry!

Simon.

-- 
  Simon Patience
  Open Software Foundation			Phone: +33-76-63-48-72
  Research Institute				FAX:   +33-76-51-05-32
  2 Avenue De Vignate				Email: sp@gr.osf.org
  38610 Gieres, France				       uunet!gr.osf.org!sp
From: mckeonj@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: An ENGLISH monarch??
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <1992Dec18.190547.6641@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
> In article <1992Dec18.160900.7906@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>>Of course, if we accept the principle of patriarchy, then the next
>>King of England will be Greek...
>>
> But the Greek monarchy was itself German. "Phil the Greek" may
> make a good joke, but I don't think the Greek monarchy was ever
> anything more than a job creation scheme for spare
> descendants of Queen Victoria. I'm not sure if it ever had any
> real Hellenic gene content.
History seems to tell us that the Boss is always a foreigner, e.g.
Moses, Egyptian
Jesus, Nazarene
Al Eskandar, Macedonian
Julius Caesar, (not sure)
Bonaparte, Corsican
Hitler, Austrian
Victoria, German
Nicholas, German
Peron, French
Obregon, Irish
I am sure that true students of history can come up with
a much better list; my history started in 1066 (Norman Invasion)
and ended in 1951 (GCE O level).
In fact, the list of native Bosses might be shorter!
-- 
"If England sleeps, shall Ireland dream?" : Se/an macEoin
-------------------------------------------------------------------
John McKeon, Material Science Dept. University of Limerick, Ireland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: VNS: Tue 22-Dec-1992
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:12:57 GMT

evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans) writes:
|     Windsor Safari Park, which has been in economic difficulties, is to be
|     turned into Legoland. {Source: Sunday Times}

Hmmm... speaking as one who remembers some of the rides in the Billund
Legoland, I think all they need do is bung up a few model lions, and:

"How could they tell?"
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Shine out, fair sun, with all your heat!  Black winter freezes to his seat...
The boneless fish close quaking lies...the stars in icicles arise!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: chapmand@chdasic.sps.mot.com (David Chapman)
Subject: Green cards etc
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 13:41:07 MST
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Hello,
It is advisable to carry your Green card/visa/passport whenever you are
travelling within the US but near a border.
There are Border Patrol checkpoints on I8 East of Yuma and on I10 between Las
Cruces and Lordsburg (NM)
In May 1990, I travelled from Phoenix to San Diego with a few British friends of
mine. We left our visas and passports in our cabinets in Mesa.
We were stopped and held for 2 hours by the Border Patrol in Yuma while calls
were made to our apartment managers to verify our status in the US. My apartment 
manager had to 'break in' to my apartment, rummage through my filing cabinet
and read out the visa in my passport to the Border agent. Only then, were we
allowed proceed home to Phoenix.

DC

chapmand@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: More silly songs.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:54:26 GMT

In article <Bzpt0J.Ip6@newcastle.ac.uk> Trevor.Kirby@newcastle.ac.uk (Trevor Kirby) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec14.172705.4413@osf.org>, dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>>I really hoped I was going to be able to resist this.  Yes, I know, so
>>did you.
>>
>>	We three Kings of Orient are
>>	One in a taxi, one in a car
>>	One on a scooter, tooting his hooter,
>>	Following Ringo Starr.
>>
>
>We learnt it as
>
>	we four beatles of liverpool are
>	George in a taxi, Paul in a car
>	John on a scooter, blowing his hooter
>	Following Ringo Starr.
>
>And don't forget the
>	We three Kings of Leicester square
>	selling womens underwear
>	How fantastic, no elastic
>	Why don't you buy a pair.
>	
>	

I liked the last one ^

We used to sing 

	We three kings of orient are
	Trying to smoke a rubber cigar
	It exploded, now we're floating
	Farther than yonder star

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sp@osf.org (Simon Patience)
Subject: Re: yankee behind the wheel
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:48:59 GMT

> With  the solid link with the continent(Euro Tunnel), 

It doesn't open until the end of '93 (latest revised estimate)

> I  thought
> you British would have to become civilized and drive on the RIGHT
> side  of  the road.  

The last estimate to do this found that it would triple the national debt
(or something equally unaffordable).

> Or does the tunnel only support  trains?   

Got it in one.

> I have  seen  some  information  on the tunnel,  but  I  am  really
> clue less.

I'm leaving that one well alone!

Simon.

-- 
  Simon Patience
  Open Software Foundation			Phone: +33-76-63-48-72
  Research Institute				FAX:   +33-76-51-05-32
  2 Avenue De Vignate				Email: sp@gr.osf.org
  38610 Gieres, France				       uunet!gr.osf.org!sp
From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Import/Export Research
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:05:03 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to Britian? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in your country about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

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Internet Addresses:
			z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
       			    
				   or
			   
			   sfa1@jetson.uh.edu

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From: czl30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: English Tea Kettle
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:51:45 GMT
Reply-To: czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I got mine at Macy's 3 years ago. It's a Swan (I think - anyway it's made
by Thorn EMI). It's not very good, but it works. I think the problem is
the 110 volt supply. It takes longer to boil, and the power cord gets hot.
Ohm's law at work. Half the voltage means twice the current, and the
flimsy US sockets aren't designed for this kind of load.

At least the Swan switches itself off. When I brew the tea I switch it
back on while I pour the water, which keeps it boiling.

I don't recommend the Black and Decker - it doesn't switch itself off, and
you have to keep plugging and unplugging the tiny plug from the wall every
time, which is a bit awkward.

I've seen kettles in the British Food Shop in Cambell, CA (just outside
San Jose), but they ain't cheap, and I suspect any kettle that is big
and powerful enough will have a problem drawing current without
the lead.

Don't use one of the US kitchen hot water gadgets, they don't boil the
water so it's not hot enough to make decent tea. This seems to be a generic
problem here. The only times I have had a good cup of tea are visiting
British and Indian expatriates, except for one US couple that spent some
time in Manchester. Never in restaurants where they can't even read the
instructions printed on the tea bag they bring you next to the luke-warm
water.

Chris Lee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Re: Gerry prayer corner and Xmas greetings
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:53:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.224934.18219@netcom.com>, sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
> In article <1992Dec21.200610.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>>In article <180342.18399@netcom.com>, sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>>> Laurence old bean, he wasn't referring to you or DESY.  If you go on
>>> like this, folk may take you for a paranoiac.  Not that everyone ISN'T
>>> against you, but it isn't a good idea to behave like one regardless.
>>> 
>>> Oddly German-sounding name?  Hmm, have to think about that one.
>>
>>Sue, old gal, thanks for that advice.  I shall immediately take in on board and
>>endeavour to ensure that whilst everyone hates me no-one mistakes me for a
>>paranoiac.
>>
>>Merry Xmas to all the old maids on s.c.british
>>
> 
> Anytime, Laurence.  I think perhaps the weather or the winter darkness
> must be getting you down.  You were a lot perkier in the summer.
> 
> 
> 

Truth is too much teaching - I have had to take on 34 hours lecturing per week in
order to come near to making a living from contract lecturing in London - and
I am still somewhat peeved at the kraut prat who had my account at ssc lab
pulled by sending them copies of obscene postings and claiming they were mine
(or so it appears).

Regards Laurence

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: British Imperial Weights and Measures
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 13:50:38 GMT

R.A.McPheat (cabr53@ccsun.strath.ac.uk) wrote:
> In article <Bzq4uz.51E@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
> >vogelm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Michael Vogel) writes:
> >
> >>Who knows any abolished or rare weight and measures which are applied in 
> >>special professional branches only, such as in mining, farming, navigation, 
> >>etc.?
> >
> >Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of is fathoms which I believe
> >is still used. Their might be others in specialised industries like diamond
> >sales.
> >
> The furlong is still used in horse racing but I'm not sure how long it is.
>
Nothing could more clearly demonstrate the creeping takeover of the British
system of measurement than the above statement.  Gone are the days when the
average British swot could do arithmetic on distances using miles, furlongs, 
chains, yards, feet and inches all in the same sum.  Gone too are the days 
when the immortal Cassandra could crack the following joke and have it 
understood by all and sundry:

A bored classical pianist, invited to play before 20 members of the local
Polish culture society and their wives, decided to liven things up with some
modern jazz.  The audience were incensed, stormed the stage and threw him 
bodily down the steps of the Town Hall.  As a passer-by helped him to get 
up, the pianist unleashed a cloud of invective that threatened to bring out 
the local constbulary.  When asked the reason for his anger the pianist 
replied, "I'm sorry, but forty square Poles do make one rude..."

--
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||Dave Jones (dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com)|Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY  |
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Tell me about the crack, and Rajah Brooke
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:55:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <20191.2b36e958@ul.ie> mckeonj@ul.ie writes:
>By the way, who was Rajah Brooke?
>-- 

The Brooke family were Rajahs of Sarawak from the mid-19th to
mid-20th centuries. The founder of the dynasty was granted Sarawak
by the Sultan of Brunei in exchange for clearing pirates off the
northern coast of Borneo. Sarawak was for almost a century a British
protectorate in which  the 'native' ruler was an Englishman.

-- 
____________________________________________________________________
Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: mbm@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Malcolm Mladenovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Old British Films (movies, y'all)
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:01:35 GMT
Organization: UNIX Centre, ICL, Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Dec21.203254.11735@cunews.carleton.ca> ahall@library1.library.carleton.ca (Alison Hall) writes:
>>	2) Similar film about a section of London that declared independence
>>owing to the discovery of a charter granted by William the Conqueror.
>
>Passport to Pimlico.
>
>Alison_Hall@carleton.ca

Which, by one of those strange coincidences, was on Channel 4 yesterday
afternoon (or rather the day before yesterday since it's now after midnight).

sadly, I missed the first half (again).

-Malcolm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,rec.travel
From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell)
Subject: Re: British Rail Schedules
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:50:25 GMT

In <rhaller-281292140109@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu> rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes:

>If there is someway for me to access British Rail schedules via guest
>telnet, gopher, et cetera, I would appreciate being told how.  Likewise for
>British Air.

I see some suggestions to get the Thomas Cook European Train Guide. IMHO, 
although great if you are going to several european countries, it is 
an expensive overkill if you are only staying in Britain.
I think the Big Book of Passenger Schedules put out by BR is better. The
problem is that it is not available in the US and I am not sure if you can
order it from the UK. I have bought one on my four trips to the UK and
found it helpful.
Is there any particular routes you are interested in?
73 Eric WB1HBU eac@world.std.com
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Banned: ``Happy Holidays'' [sic]
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:52:17 GMT
Organization: Not Philips.

In refd article, sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes, in one of a series of
increasingy tetchy postings on this and that:
>Are you saying that I have to consider the root meanings of all
>words before using them?  I have a job and a life, and I don't have
>time for such silliness.  I don't think many others do either.
>Why LOOK for reasons to be annoyed?  

There's certainly no point in looking for reasons to be annoyed when its so
patently easy to get annoyed for no reason, Sue.

A guid hogmanay everyone.  I'll drink a dram or two tonight to your health
and wealth (and good cheer, Sue).
-- 
Ray Dunn at home        |  Beaconsfield, Quebec  |  Phone: (514) 630 3749
ray@philmtl.philips.ca  |  ray@cam.org           |  uunet!sobeco!philmtl!ray