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From: dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl)
Subject: Re: Random Wondering
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:24:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.200429.10782@athena.mit.edu> jimhsu@athena.mit.edu (Jimmy M.D. Hsu) writes:
>I was wondering if O'Brien is at two places at once.
>If DS9 occurred after the Borg, does O'Brien ever make
>an appearance on TNG after the Borg incident? If so,
>wouldn't he be in two places at once?  As I understand
>it, DS9 and TNG overlap after BOBW.  Or does DS9 start
>at the current time period of TNG?

FYI, DS9 takes place three years after the Borg incident (in other words, it
starts right after the Cardassian incident of "Chain of Command.") Pay closer
attention to "Emissary" next time it's on. It's right there, after the Borg
sequence.
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:03:59 GMT

In <1993Jan21.173815.10440@ac.dal.ca> novanet@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Okay, here's my opinion: (10 is best, 1 is worst)
>10) Cost of Living
> 9) Half a Life
> 8) Coming of Age
> 7) Where No One Has Gone Before
> 6) The Bonding
> 5) The Last Outpost
> 4) Reunion
> 3) Justice
> 2) The Outcast
> 1) First Contact

Hmm... I would gripe about "The Last Outpost" (which I feel is watchable if
not distinguished) and "Reunion" (which is watchable *and* distinguished,
though it doesn't hold up that well to repeated viewing), but the rest seem
plausible entries to me (though they wouldn't be the entries *I* would
choose! :-)

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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN: Dr. Bashir a stud
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:51:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <C1J3rp.8B2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
>tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>>I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
>>I think this lad's a sweetie.
>Doctor Bashir is the only chracter on DS9 that I want dead..
>Hoepfully he is the character they intend to kill, if not
>I might have to start another newsgroup
>alt.doctor.bashir.die.die.die
>Arrgh its the Weasel's father.

	So, how long have you had this self-hate problem......

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From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: The men of Star Trek
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:59:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan25.025932.17702
Organization: Western Washington University

Tops on the Worst Column:  Do to Riker everything anyone has ever suggested
doing to Troi.  He is the most posturing, arrogant, egotistical, self-assured 
blowhard ever to come down the pike.  Our Saturday night Trek-watching 
community (men and women both) cheer whenever he gets taken down a peg. 

Tops on the BEST Column:  Jean-Luc, hands down (right on top of that sexy head,
given half a chance).  Intelligent, diplomatic, tasteful, discriminating, 
handsome, reserved, but not immune to (quality) feminine charms. Yeah.


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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Kira and her scale on the babe-o-meter
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:44:32 GMT


	For what it's worth, I think Kira is a lot more
attractive than Dax.  For starters, I dislike the way Dax's
hair is pulled straight back.  It makes her head look huge!
Although Dax *is* nice to look at, she simply looks to much
like a model for my tastes.  Incidentally, I liked Kira's first
hair style, as opposed to this really short one.  On a scale
from 1 to 10, I would rate them:

Kira:	10
Ro:	9.8
Crusher 9.5
Troi:	9.4
Dax:	8.5
					-Quinn
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Subject: Re: BABEL
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:04:47 GMT

In article <16957.128.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess)  writes:
>ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:
>
>-> I was just wondering, if the Episode entitled "Babel" named that
>-> because of the babel fish in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
>
>I doubt it. More like it has some reference to the TOS episode, Journey
>to Babel.
>
  Since it is suppose to be that no one understands each other, it is 
  probably a reference to the Tower of Babel in the Babel.

							Jorge


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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Shatner's Tek War Article
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:39:40 GMT


I have the first Tekwar novel, and found it quite interesting (a.k.a.
funny) that the main character, as pictured on the cover, bore more
than a slight resemblance to a young William Shatner.  Coincidence?
You decide...

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From: jtruss@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (The Quixotic Ninja)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Stuck airlock in Babel DS9
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:53:05 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan27.182149.10211@news.columbia.edu> vs27@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Vadim  Strizhevsky) writes:
>In article <C1IwEr.Kvp@news2.cis.umn.edu> rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan27.163054.879@linus.mitre.org>, lkahn@mitre.org (Larry Kahn) writes:
>>|> Was there something I missed here?  Why didn't Chief O'Brien simply beam 
>>|> the stuck people out and then go back and fix the airlock at his 
>>|> convenience rather than make it a big priority?
>>
>>Have we been shown that the Cardassian transporters are capable of
>>safe short-range transport?  (The old argument of intra-ship beaming
>>in TOS...)
>>
>But Odo used the transporter for intra-ship beaming in "Babel."  This one was 
>however from the transporter room to the docked ship.  BTW could someone 
>enlighten me on this: Is there a technical difference between beaming from 
>transporter room to somewere else and from somewhere else to transporter room.
>If there is no differences, than I indeed wonder why O'Brien didn't beam those
>people out.

It's all very simple.

If he had beamed those people out, he wouldn't have gotten a chance to
annoy the freighter pilot.

(As someone else replied recently to a query about the inner workings of
dilithium, if you want a different answer, take it to .tech.)

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From: smt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEFAN M. THIEME)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: TNG: Funniest moments
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:47:45 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

One of the funnier anmd more memorable lines (IMHO) of TNG
is when Data gets captured by that art collector/thief. Forced to
be a musesum piece, he tries to reesist int he only way he can: passively.

When the art collector's friend comes to see Data, he stands perfectly
motionless; the friends merest touch topples him (and he bounces!)
Perfectly deadpan, the friend looks at the inert android and says

"He falls well."

Well, I liked it, anyway.

Have a nice day.
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From: jdude@sol.acs.unt.edu (JDude Hancock)
Subject: Re: Holodeck matter (spoiler)
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:28:23 GMT

tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:

>Something just popped into my head whilst watching "Ship in a Bottle"






















>Okay, here it is:

>The book shouldn't have disappeared.

>The holodeck uses rudimentary transporter technology to create simply
>things such as trees, water (member, Wesley drips after falling into
>the stream in the pilot), paper (Moriarty's drawing in "Elementary,
>Dear Data"), etc.

>The only matter that *can't* leave the holodeck are the people.  So
>the book, a replicated book, should have landed with a thud in the
>corridoor, not disappeared in a sparkle of light.

>What do you all think?

This bothered me too, simply because they've never made the rules
clear.  You mentioned the holodeck paper that Data was able to
take off the holodeck.  We may assume, then, that perhaps inanimate
objects *can* be taken off the holodeck.  But ...

Remember in The Big Good-Bye when the two holodeck people stepped off
the holodeck and promptly began disappearing?  Notice that their
clothes disappeared as well.  And, as you mention, Picard's book
disappeared in Ship in a Bottle. 

I think we can conclude, then, that either the paper and water were
goof-ups (and you can't take *anything* off the holodeck), or the 
rules have not been sufficiently explained.

A friend of mine and I were discussing what it would be like to live
in a holodeck apartment.  If you can't take objects off the holodeck,
then wearing holodeck clothing outside your apartment would probably
be a bad idea.  :-)

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From: pavlovic@ehsc.orst.edu (James Pavlovich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Re
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:24:33 GMT
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In article <DsJuXB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> honeydew@infopls.chi.il.us (David Cohen) writes:

>I think this has been said before, but just glancing at the subject list, 
>the problem seems to be worsening.  There is very little point in 
>prefacing every single subject with "Re:."  I take that back.  There is 
>absolutely NO point in doing it and it has a tendency of becoming rather 
>annoying.  The practice no doubt started when people wanted to show that 
>they were responding to something as opposed to starting a new thread or 
>just bringing up a new topic, so they typed Re: (Regarding:).  When 
>upwards of 80% of the posts use it, though, it becomes meaningless.

Well, the software that I use (and I suspect alot of others also) 
automatically puts the "Re:" into a subject line when we hit the follow-up 
command.  Note that it won't put it on if it is already there or else this 
one would read Re: Re: Re:.  I've taken to using the absence of Re: to 
identify a new thread.  

Now, IMO this group would be a lot more pleasent to read if there were less 
anal fretting about format and more concern with content.  

Also, the need for a TNG - DS9 split would not exist if people weren't 
taking up so much space (bandwidth, whatever that is) with the debate.

Gee, I guess I needed to vent a little.

JGP
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From: dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl)
Subject: Re: Odo is NOT hollow! (Was: Re: Odo: conservation of mass)
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:00:04 GMT

In article <ewright.727554926@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1993Jan18.065945.872@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
>
>>The densest substance known to exist is iridium (22.5 g/cc). 
>
>Nope.  Not even close.  Try nuclear fluid.

Well, not counting black holes, the densest substance would be neutronium
(the stuff a neutron star is made of). Or were you referring to the densest
substance that mankind has managed to make?
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From: <JCS124@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: The way she walks #Bable#
 <1993Jan25.162046@usho72.hou281.chevron.com>

HHTRA@USO72 (T.M. HADDOCK) writes:
> That's almost like my 5 year old asking me how Arnold could make any
> more movies after "peeling his own skin off his arm" in Terminator 2.

Do you mean to tell me that you let your 5 year old watch Terminator 2?  :>
I would only let a child that young watch it if I knew that they the difference
between thriller movies and real life.... (IMHO)

As for Dax and her strut.... Isn't that under the jurisdiction of the director
how they should walk, gesture and such??

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From: lmcdougal@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu. (Lynn M. McDougal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: How a "Babel" scene should have been *SPOILERS*
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Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:47:02 GMT
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In article <18188@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the
Frog here...) wrote:
> 
> If you haven't seen "Babel" yet, press 'n'.  We've got some serious foghorn
> toast coming up:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The scene where Dr. Bashir "bought it" seemed fairly routinely staged --
> far from getting a "sh*t they're screwed now" reaction like it should have,
> it simply seemed like "another one bites the dust, ho-hum."
> 
> But what if it had happened this way?
> 
> Bashir is running tests on the computer.  He gives a command, and the
> machine replies "Insufficient featherbedding."
> 
> Bashir does a take, and notices (like he did in the episode) that the
> screen is now filled with gibberish.
> 
> He calls the nurse over.  "Nurse!  I don't know what's happening, or how,
> but somehow the virus is affecting the biochip circuitry in the computer.
> See -- it's scrambling the output..."
> 
> The nurse sighs and shakes her head.  "Squelch, Doctor, let's hop the
> parallel to you..."
> 
> She moves to take him by the arm and lead him out, but he shakes her off and
> hits his communicator.  "Bashir to Sisko.  Nurse Crane's aphasic, but
> I think we've got another problem.  The virus is into the computer chips,
> and it's going to bring the system down--"
> 
> The nurse takes Bashir by the arm and begins to escort him out of the
> infirmary.  Meanwhile Bashir hear's Sisko's voice "Which twist, Bashir, which
> twist..."  The Commander, he realizes, is infected too.
> 
> "SISKO!" Bashir shouts as the nurse all but drags him out the door.  "Put 
> someone on who knows what he's saying!"
> 
> Cut to the hospital ward.  Bashir is sitting on the bed, trying frantically
> to explain to Sisko.  "Snark the water bottle!" he says.  "Bio fertilizer
> in the top scramble unit!"  The nurse and Sisko talk normally.
> 
> Suddenly, the viewer realizes -- it's not everyone else who's lost it, it's
> Bashir.
> 
> It's a Twilight Zone - ish twist, true, but it would be a great way to
> disorient the audience a bit.  Kind of like the big reversal in "Remember Me". 
> Hmm?

Oh, BRAVO, BRAVO!!!  Much more delicious!

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those of my department, collegues, friends, family, or pets!  *As above, so
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From: drolrevo@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Little Rascals Flaw?
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:15:28 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

	I just saw "Little Rascals" and I noticed that little Picard
asked for the computer to be turned on in Classroom 8. When the 
computer was turned on, the screen said classroom 7. 
	WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

 I own personal jeeve for the evening.
DROLREVO
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From: dmend@ctp.com (Daniel J. Mendez)
Subject: Q
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:07:34 GMT

I just saw a repeat of the TNG show in which Q is after the girl who
turns out to be also Q, and I am utterly disgusted. Is it only me, or do
other people feel that the presence of Q detracts from the show overall?

I mean, this is series in which "science" plays a very important role and 
an omnipotent being with a purported sense of humor creates just too many 
inconsistencies: Why would he even bother to appear at an officers' meeting 
and tell them about his plan? Why would he ask their permission to meet 
with her at all? 

It just doesn't make sense, and if it was (as some people doubtlessly think) an
example of his "dark sense of humor", maybe they should move Q over to 
"The Simpsons".

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What do they do for restrooms on enterprise?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:28:10 GMT
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In <16B644EA.R3DRS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R3DRS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:

> This may be a subject already covered at one time or another, but with my many
> years of star trek original and next generation, i have never seen any
> reference to what the crew does for showers and restroom facilities.  Do you
> suppose transporter technology is used to obselete these bodily functions?

  Yes.  But the timing is *VERY* tricky...



semper fi,

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From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
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Subject: Rec.Arts.DS9.Odo.Hollow.BS! :)
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:40:23 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's




Who gives a crap if Odo is solid or not!
Argh please more on to subjects like....

What would happen if Odo morphed into Bill Clinton!

signed,
stimpi
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From: laser5@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Mayo)
Subject: Re: No Vulcans!
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:19:54 GMT

In <12537.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com> scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield)  writes:

>On Mon, 18 Jan 1993 19:31:52 GMT, abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
>wrote:

>AB>Yes, but I don't believe they ever said that the Intrepid was a Star Fleet
>AB>vessel. I don't know this for certain but I was lead to believe that it
>AB>was in fact a Vulcan ship. If the entire crew was Vulcan, it stands to
>AB>reason that it would be a Vulcan ship. I doubt Starfleet would allow such
>AB>an occurence to happen. Just as there probably aren't any all-human
>AB>vessels either. (Note all-human not all-humaniod as ever starship seems to
>AB>be. But that's another thread!)

>I think it was fairly clear that whatever brilliant TOS writer came up
>with that idea (sarcasm alert) intended the Intrepid to be a Starfleet
>vessel.  After all, there's a TNG-era Intrepid too (Sergey Rozhenko's
>ship).  The original thought was kind of dopey, though -- not only
>because of the enormous paperwork and trouble involved in ensuring
>single-race ships, but also because it's quite intrinsically anti-IDIC.


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>
Yes, the Intrepid is a starfleet vessel.  NCC-1708 according to the
20th anniversary technical manual.  From what I remember out of
various novels and episodes, the Vulcans demanded a ship of their own
because they wanted an unarmed ship.  It was rumored that they had
their photon torpedo tubes filled in and their phaser ports
sealed.  This seems to fit with their aversion to violence.  I admit
there is a conflict between IDIC and non-violence here.  Based on
the history of their planet, what would YOU choose?