HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gtaylor@jade.tufts.edu (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Novice question: How to write and read from /dev/fd0
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:57:21 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

well, there are two ways to use floppies in linux- 

just as a raw device, with no filesystem on the floppy, ie tar
and as you would in dos - by mounting and using the floppy's fs.

to use a floppy `raw', you simply specify /dev/fd[0||1] as the target `file' 
for example - tar cCvvzf / /dev/fd0 will back up and compress your
entire filesystem, assuming that it fits on a single floppy.  note that
tar does not allow simletaneous use of the compress (z) and
multivolume (M) options (a problem i will fix this weekend).  
also useful - dd if=a2 of=/dev/fd0 would `rawrite' a2 to the floppy...

to use a floppy by mounting it, you just mount it.  if the filesystem
is of a type other than minix, you must explicitly say so.

`mount /dev/fd0 /mnt'   mounts a minix floppy as /mnt/
`mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt'  mounts a dos floppy as /mnt
also possible are -t ext and, i suppose, -t proc, (on a floppy!?)

(please note, for future reference, that this question is probably
covered in the FAQ, info-sheet, or installation notes of SLS or MCC,
as well as, where relavent, the man pages to dd and GNU tar)

hope this cleared up a bit of confusion...

-grant



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#include<stdio.h> /* gcc this, and all your dreams will come true (maybe!) */
static int pp(char*a){int i=0;while(a[i])putchar(a[i++]-1);}main(){int a,b,c;
char *d[]={"ep","efbvy","epvhi","epf"},*i[]={"j","fzf","jhi"},*f[]={"G","Qi"}
;pp("Jo\x21nfnpsz\x21pg\x21Jttbd\x21 Btjnpw///");putchar('\n');putchar('\n');
for(a=0;a<2;a++)for(b=0;b<3;b++){for(c=0;c<4;c++){if(c==1)putchar('\t');pp(f
[a]);pp(i[b]);pp(d[c]);putchar('\t');if(a==0&&b==0&&(c==1||c==2))putchar('\t'
);}putchar('\n');}}  /* sorry kids, this one is only worth one bonus point */
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "Hood Philip" <hood_philip@po.gis.prc.com>
Subject: More info on SLS infanticide
Reply-To: hood_philip@po.gis.prc.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:13:53 GMT

I poked aound some more and found that nothing on A3 was being installed.  It
seems that I get a message "stdin not in compressed format" while the install
script is trying to read the base tar.

I downloaded the complete SLS suite from the VWIS Linux Support BBS via zmodem
and copied the files (after a2) onto dos diskettes.  Is there someway I could
have caused a byte ordering problem in this process??  Somehow it seems tar is
confused by my files...
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave)
Subject: Re: SLS Mail/News?
Reply-To: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $
Organization: None
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:14:07 +0000

In article <1992Nov23.095133.13016@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
> Jim Segrave (jes@grendel.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>  [deleted]
> Better yet, don't use it at all.  the mail included with mailpak-1.3 was
> intended to be a provisional measure until a better solution could be
> found.  Get smail-3.1.28 - it's a much better mailer.
> 
> mail will *not* be included in mailpak-1.4, BTW...I've stopped using it
> long ago.

agreed

> 
> I don't agree with your assertion that C has a "bad name in the rest of the
> programming world".  Is your programming world composed of programmers
> writing COBOL applications?  C gives one the ability, the freedom, to write
> any manner of code desired.  If one wants to write beautiful code, the
> opportunity is there.  If one wants to write ugly code, C will not stop you.

No, almost all my programming is in C and assembler, I only know one Cobol
programmer (she's a relative, so I have to speak to her :-). Nonetheless,
C does have a bad reputation in a large parts of the commercial world.
The most common summary is that it's a 'high level assembler'. The
freedom C gives you allows the writing of code which is very difficult to
debug and maintain when carelessly used. And, sadly, there's a lot of ill
designed and executed code out there. Some of the other, more mollycoddling,
languages restrict the programmer in ways which often make the code more
maintainable. I don't wish to give up C programming, but I can't help
expressing repugnance at what I consider hack programming (in the most
perjorative sense of the word). If some of the people who've had a go
at mail (or any of a large number of other fair sized C programs) had
shown the professionalism necessary to spend a small amount of time
organising their code and thinking about maintainability, readability,
etc. they would probably have produced a huge nett savings for the world
at large. I doubt that I'm the first to find some bugs in this program.
I'm sure I haven't found them all. I *know* other people are going to
go through the same exercise. Multiply the number of followers-on by
the time it takes them to first get the overall structure of the program
and then find and fix the problems. Was an hour saved by sloppy coding
such a bargain after all? 
--
Jim Segrave (Segrave Software Services)     jes@grendel.demon.co.uk

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: janne@seita.oulu.fi (Janne Himanka)
Subject: 8-bit clean bash and readline-rc available.
Organization: Tilde's home bakery
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:13:14 GMT

I just made today bash 1.10 with 8 bit patches and it seems to work
fine. The reason why I didn't compile version 1.12 is that there are
(to my knowledge) no 8 bit patches for bashes newer than 1.10. I have
used this patched 1.10 ever since 1.10 arrived (about a year?) in
non-linux machines and it seems quite stable. 

I also compiled the rc shell with the patched GNU readline. 

I'll put these binaries in nic.funet.fi tomorrow.

A clarification for newbies: an 8-bit clean shell allows you to type
in e.g. all iso-8859-1 characters, and thus allows you to use your
national alphabet in the shell. 

Janne
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"What did you do with the Pharaoh + shem@phoenix.oulu.fi
 Great Outhouse 8?"               + shem@nic.funet.fi
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 toothsome."                      + Oulu Univ., Dept. of Libr. & Inf. Sc.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dws@cseg03.uark.edu (David W. Summers)
Subject: Re: looking for useful TCP program
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:38:32 GMT

row@cs.bham.ac.uk (Reuben O Wells) writes:

>Hi all,
> [ deleted ]
>Why ? I don't really want to run NFS and want to be able to do remote
>backups, I do have the TCP/IP suite installed and would like to use 
>it! For example:
>
>on my local machine ...
>tar -cvf / - | senddata <hostname> <port>
>
>on the remote machine ...
>recdata <port> > /dev/nrst8
>
>I am sure this must have been done before, if anyone knows of any
>such programs please let me know.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Reuben Wells
>-- 
>row@cs.bham.ac.uk   Tel: (+44) 21 449 9142	      

You might try the GNU TAR program.  At least on SunOS it is capable of
doing a remote tar to a device on another machine.  That seems to be
what you want.

Admittedly, I haven't tried in on LINUX yet, but maybe it would work, and
if it didn't maybe we could figure out why and fix it.

   - David Summers
   (dws@engr.uark.edu)

-- 
                         "Never under-estimate the bandwidth of a station-wagon
David Summers             full of tapes, hurtling down the highway."
dws@engr.uark.edu         - Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks"
From: probreak@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A few problems
Date: 17 Nov 1992 23:17:50 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: kitty.ksu.ksu.edu

chris@cosmo.demon.co.uk.demon.co.uk (Chris Payne) writes:

>Hello Linux users..

>I have been reading this group for a while now and have decided to try 
>Linux out. Having read the FAQs and all the other information I can find I
>still have a few questions before installing on my hard disk (the floppy 
>version works fine):

>1. When partitioning the hard disk I gather that you should make a 'few'
>   partitions for Linux. A root, swap and user I recall. How big should
>   these be? Is a swap file as good as a swap partition? Why have a 'user'
>   partition?

>Chris.

I would recomend at least three partitions if not more depending on the
work you plan on doing. That way if one gets corrupted or something
you aren't hosed. 

I have a root partition and a /usr partition and then
mount my dos partition onto /usr/dos. I also have a 16meg swap partition.

I would say use a swap partition over a swap file just for the fact that it
is faster and a bit more reliable. I would use a least as much swap as you
have memeory. This is so if the kernal ever develops to the point where
a panic would dump core onto swap you will need at least that much room to
store it.

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: SLS on sunsite
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:38:35 GMT

I've moved the zafix file of the Incoming directory to its appropriate
place in the SLS distribution (a5), so it should be ok to just download
SLS from sunsite.

Also, if you need to upload something and tsx-11 is still full, go
ahead and put it on sunsite.  All the permissions have been straightened
out (i hope) and it now resides on a brand new 1.2 gig disk. :)

jem.
-- 
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Virtual pizza Delivery (tm)::faxed in 30 cycles or less or you get it
----------------------------------------FREE!!!-----------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: behrenss@hphalle6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: German Keyboard and Umlauts for Linux
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:42:52 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Johan Myreen (jem@vipunen.hut.fi) wrote:

: Change the definition of KEYBOARD in the Makefile to
: KEYBOARD = -DKBD_GR_LATIN1 -DKBDFLAGS=0x9F and recompile the kernel.
: The Makefile also explains the KBDFLAGS define.

Speaking of special chars ... does Linux support Unicode? (I.e. 2-byte
chars). Will it? Can it be made to do it?

Soenke

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From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Instilation of Linux, how do I find out how to do it?
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:41:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: victrola.1992Nov20.194157.422
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC

wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>Perhaps you could try reading the article with the following subject:
>Subject: META-FAQ: Linux sources of information

>(Maybe I really should post it more often?)

please, no.  if once per 2 weeks isn't enough, I don't know what is...
-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
  I just upgraded to Quicken-for-Windows v2.0 and it's so darn great I'll
  never be able to get rid of DOS...anybody got a Quicken-for-X11R5 ???
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: X - how do I stop ctrl-alt-BS?
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:35:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.025324.17638@csd.uwe.ac.uk> p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk writes:
>
[X problem deleted]

>On a completely different topic, does anyone know where the 
>'bastard operator from hell' scripts reside? I saw one and liked it,
>I may even take up some of it's practices 8-)
>
>Phil (The irrate)
>=--=

I can't help you with your X-server problem but I would like
to tell you that sunsite.unc.edu is a multi-talented machine
the complete bastard operator stuff is under /pub/docs/humor/bastard-operator.

jem.

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Virtual pizza Delivery (tm)::faxed in 30 cycles or less or you get it
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams )
Subject: PL5 maimed bash
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:01:43 GMT

Upgrading to patch level 5 maimed bash (shared 2.2.2) for me. The effects were
very subtle, were only noticed by make (usually core dumping on shell scripts)
and took me a while to localise due to the fact the messages generated made it
look like a segmentation fault in make.

The problem was fixed by recompiling bash with jump 4.1 libraries.

Just thought this might be of help to anyone having the same problem.

-- 
Peter Williams                |e-mail: peterw@archsci.arch.su.edu.au
Key Centre for Design Quality |phone: +61-2-692 2053 or +61-2-660 6156
University of Sydney          |+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: agc@weasel.demon.co.uk (Alan Charlton)
Subject: Re: Q about Seagate SCSI controller ST02
Reply-To: agc@weasel.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $
Organization: nowhere in particular...
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:31:07 +0000

In article <1992Nov19.230726.16466@colorado.edu> drew@juliet.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes:
> >
> >I recently bought a used Seagate ST02 SCSI Host (Bios Revision 3.2).
> >During POST it first prints out something like "Seagate ST02 bios 3.2"
> >, and then the cryptic message "SCSI Adaptor Failure" comes up.
> >
> >Does this indicate a hardware failure, or does it simply indicate that i have
> 
> Yes.    

No - this error message comes up when the host adaptor can't find any SCSI disks
connected to it.  I don't know how you can stop it from doing this, other than by
connecting a disk.  However, AFAIR the machine should still boot after a 30 second
or so delay - at least, my machine does :-)

If the error message doesn't come up when a SCSI disk is connected (and correctly
terminated), then the adaptor *is* faulty :-(

Cheers,

- Alan.

+---------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
| Alan Charlton, Bristol, England | I swear at you 'cause I believe            |
| agc@cix.compulink.co.uk         | that sweet-talk, like candy, rots teeth... |
| agc@weasel.demon.co.uk          |                                            |
| Tel:  +44 454 202706 (after 6)  | ---   Prefab Sprout - "Hallelujah"         |
+---------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sthomas@worldbank.org (Sidney F. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Need a definition for 3 COM 3c503 adapter
Reply-To: sthomas@nimbus.UUCP (Sidney F. Thomas)
Organization: World Bank
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:04:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.210143.3988@unislc.uucp> dbb@unislc.uucp (Doug Beattie) writes:
>Does anyone have a definition for a 3COM 3c503 network adapter
>board?  I am currently running a system with this board and would
>like to be able to configure my 0.98.1 SLS system to use it.  If
>anyone has had experience doing this I would greatly like to
>learn from your experiences.
>
>Thanks in advance for you help.
>

Please post.  I am in the same position, thought I had to get a
WD8013 or compatible card.  Would be nice if I didn't have to.

--Sidney Thomas (sthomas@nimbus@worldbank.org)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: NIS for Linux?
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:51:56 GMT

Franco Venturi (franco@deis20.cineca.it) wrote:
: anyone has thought of porting NIS (Network Information Services) for Linux?
: NIS (formerly called YP=Yellow Pages) is a distributed data base that allows
: Unix machines (I know Suns, HPs and IBMs, at least) to share some data bases,
: tipically /etc/passwd /etc/hosts and so on... In this way, the logins and other
: data can be shared by many machines.
: Franco Venturi
: Dept. of Electronics
: Bologna, Italy

Good idea, however where do you get either the spec or software for NIS
do you have to pay money to Sun for these?

Also you need to either alter or override the standard routines in 
libc, and there is a possible problem with hostnames.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cac@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Christopher A. Cox)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP burps, can't run X, and FD950 SCSI?
Keywords: ATI VGA ULTRA X XWindows xfree86
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:39:44 GMT

	OK, I fixed X.  It will run without sockets.  I was starting it
wrong.  It doesn't like my good ol' plain vanilla Microsoft Mouse,
though.  Dunno why, but seeing as the problem was a user error (or loser
error where I work) before I imagine this is too.

							Chris

-- 
---------- If you cut here you'd probably ruin your monitor -------------
cac@iear.arts.rpi.edu			               Christopher A. Cox
cac@itchy.geog.albany.edu			       I think, therefore
cc8034@eve.albany.edu				              am confused.
From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Getting the old IBM character set back (How to?)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 11:23:46 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: It came up before... anyone remember how?

I'd like to be able to use the *old* default character set on my PC, the
one with graphics characters and the like, instead of Latin-1.  How do I
get it back (without reverting to <ugh> DOS)?

For that matter, how would I go about making my *own* character sets?

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ken Corey - Operator)
Subject: Re: union wait
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:01:57 GMT

hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:

>Include <sys/wait.h>, You are home free. If your software ueses "union wait"
>directly, rather than wait macros, fix your software. That will make it
>more portable.


Don't forget, <wait.h> defines the union wait structure as an 'int *'.  
Simply search and replace using your favorite editor, and things should work 
out just fine.  At least *i*'ve gotten good results...your mileage may vary.

Ken == kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu == kenc@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
 Weinberg's Principle:
 	An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while
 	sweeping on to the grand fallacy.
From: dlbb0@diag.amdahl.com (David Black)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux panel discussion
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:50:33 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi, yours truly has been asked to represent Linux in a panel discussion
for a Bay area unix users' group (Silicon Valley). There will be a person
representing Coherent, and Bill Jolitz is going to talk about 386BSD. This will
be on December 2nd, at the Cupertino Public Library. 7pm is the time.

There is supposed to be a lot of people there, and so I'm asking you folks,
Linux users/developers, for a list of things you'd like mentioned... it
may be possible with other OSs to have one or two people accurately relate
their OS's features, but with the multitude of contributors to Linux,
I feel it's necessary to ask for a list of some sort via this newsgroup.
The FAQs offer good info, but I'm also interested in what the future holds,
as the other panelists will no doubt also talk about that topic.

I've asked Ross Biro if he'd like to participate, being that he's close
by and has done a considerable amount of development work. My angle is more
from a user's point of view, porting issues, what's available, why my dog/cat
likes Linux, virtual beer, etc. ;) The idea is to introduce interested
parties to the currently available free/cheap unix packages. If there's
anyone else in the Bay Area who's interested in participating, please email
ASAP.

I don't characterize myself as gung-ho on Linux; I like it a lot but
would not hesitate to use a different OS if it suited me better. Just so
happens Linux does everything I need it to and does it well. So that's
where I'm coming from...

Thanks!

-- 
David L. Black     I/O Diagnostics Development   Hip-Hop BBS: Linux+PBBS
dlbb0@amdahl.com   Amdahl Corp., Sunnyvale CA    408-773-0768 V.32bis/HST
From: graves@jemez.eece.unm.edu (John Graves)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: LINUX...SLIP...NET...X11
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:48:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.7jjqq5n
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


Anyone have SLIP running that allows for a "setenv DISPLAY" to work over the
virtual ethernet?

I can get NET to work and set up my SLIP connection.  The host machine knows
my ip address... I can telnet/ftp anywhere... But how do I set up X11 to
accept DISPLAY calls over the SLIP line?

If anyone has this working, please send me mail  0004821977@mcimail.com

Thanks n advance

-John

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help required with LINUX: Please help me
From: 8809787l@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:00:49 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

Dear readers

I am currently in need of a UNIX operating system to run on my 486DX which has
4Meg of RAM and 105MEg Hard Disk with 3.5" and 5.25" high density floppies.
The system runs at 33MHz with a Multi sync NEC 4FG monitor with mouse and a
2400 baud Fax/Modem.

I am trying to run a VHDL compiler and simulator and also a Logic simulator
called GALAXY both of which run on UNIX.

I was wondering if some one from this group could tell me if LINUX is a usefull
OS for what I want to do and if so is it fast enough ie. faster than DOS etc.
or not.

I also am confused about what files etc I need to download from the linux ftp
sites so I would be greatfull if some one could assist me with obtaining the 
correct files required.

In case you may be wondering why I need to use these programs I am undertaking
a PhD program here at the University of South Australia in the field of design
and diagnostics of Electronic Systems in an intellegent environment. So it is
very important for me to get up and runing with the CAD packages I mensioned
and hence I would be extremly greatfull to any one who could assist me with
choosing, and installing LINUX as a free UNIX operating system on my 486.

Thank you very much for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.

My email address is : 8809787L@LV.LEVELS.UNISA.EDU.AU

Yours Faithfully

Payam Pourbeik

University of South Australai
School of Electronic Engineering
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Where is Ghostscript
Date: 15 Nov 1992 23:05:31 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Eric Scharff <eds2@cornell.edu> writes:

>In article <1e3lupINNs8e@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> James Michael Chacon,
>probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu writes:
>>From what I hear ghostscript compiles out of the box. So you can get that
>>from any site that mirrors prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu directory. Try
>>wuarchive first. As far as ghostview goes, it should also be on that site
>>and should compile with very little problems.

>Does ghostscript require its own set of fonts, or can it use X Fonts?

From what I've been told, it uses its own fonts to render things and
then passes them through an external driver to show up on whatever
output you are using (X, paper printout, ...)

James

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux