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From: snuffy@zelator.in-berlin.de (Ronald_J. Bartle)
Subject: Re: Time to elect a monarch?
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 05:22:22 GMT

In <kNHkVB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

>With the recent in the Crown, one should speak on this situation.

>One must note that despite my Centrist politics, I am an avowed Monarchist.
>But with the recent separation of the Prince and Princess of Wales, this throws
>the current system in doubt and one should wonder if the Magestrate should be
>elected by Her/Her Royal Majesty's subject.

>A thought to consider, especially when Poland did it at one time.

>BTW, you are safe to assume that since I am a Loyalist that I am  strongly
>Anti-Republicans, and as a British National, I do believe that there is no room
>for a EuroParliament in Britain and hence anti-political-Unification-European.

>Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
> (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
>God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
>Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to One and All - John Lennon

lso writting as an (ex-pat) Britt. subject - I wouold be far more
interested in being able to (vote!)( elect anybody anywhere and if the
matter lconcerned was a monarchy (anybody anywhere!) then I would find
the opportunity to "DE-ELECT!" a Queen far more interesting than to
vote to swap one pompous and unnecessary large scale sponger with
another!

(must be brief - my 17 quid a week britt. war disability - will run
out before the phone call to the bbs is completed!)

- if u see what i mean! RB


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From: ablackb1@ccswarthmore.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: "Green" Cards
Keywords: green card
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:27:27 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <1992Dec17.073007.8455@osf.org> sp@osf.org (Simon Patience) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.181411.20364@hemlock.cray.com>, trk@palm15.cray.com (Tim
Kirby) writes:
>> Adam King (ark@unislc.uucp) wrote:
>> : ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331 (alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com) wrote:
>> : : In article 9B8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com, patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
writes:
>> : : >*>Can anyone tell me why Green Cards are actually blue? Mine is ...
>> : : 	Stuff deleted..
>> : : NO I don't think so, Mine is WHITE ...
>> : : 
>> : Really! Mine (British also) is pink!
>> 
>> I gotta pink one too...
>> 
>> It may be regional, though I believe the cards themselves are all made
>> somewhere in Texas. Maybe it's goverened by 'date' ... i.e. the colo(u)r and
>> the date of issue have some meaning.
>
>Just to put the fear of god into you chappies, the last time I went
>through US immigration (a couple of months ago in Boston) there was a big
>sign saying
>
>	"If your Resident Alien card looks like this" 
>	(picture of a blue card)
>	"The you should go to your local immigration office immediately
>	 to get it changed to this"
>	(picture of a natty pink card)
>	"as the blue one will be made invalid" (or something like that)
>
>Have a happy non-denominational or even non-religious holiday.
>Simon.
>
>-- 
>  Simon Patience
>  Open Software Foundation			Phone: +33-76-63-48-72
>  Research Institute				FAX:   +33-76-51-05-32
>  2 Avenue De Vignate				Email: sp@gr.osf.org
>  38610 Gieres, France				       uunet!gr.osf.org!sp
>

I was stopped coming in to Philly 3 years ago with a "green" green card issued
in '63 and told I HAD to get a new one and he put a note in my passport to that
effect, 18 months and 3 applications I got a new one - they kept losing the
applications, sent one to the wrong address, it was wild, to say nothing of
sitting in the Immigration office hours on end THREE times!
From: andrewg@brtph346.BNR.CA (Krishna Kushwaha P205)
Subject: Re: US bombed Libyan civilians
Reply-To: andrewg@brtph346.BNR.CA (Krishna Kushwaha P205)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:19:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.173741.3932@informix.com>, proberts@informix.com
(Paul Roberts) writes:
|>In article <1992Dec10.132618.3474@csd.uwe.ac.uk>
th2_oate@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Tom Oates) writes:
|>>In article <1foomuINNhat@menudo.uh.edu> chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
|>>
|>>>But didn't the Birtish establishment support US bombing of civilians in 
|>>>Libya a few years ago.  How about a little **consistency** here???
|>>>
|>>>Bill Harrison.
|>>
|>>No, the British establishment did *not* support US bombing of civilians in
|>>Libya in 1983. True, the British Govt did give permission for the F111s
|>>to use their facilities in order to bomb Gadaffi's air force and
camps around
|>>Tripoli that were being used to train PLO, IRA and Libyan terrorists.
But the
|>>British Govt cannot be held responsible for regrettable mistakes made
by US Air
|>>Force pilots. In 1983 the USA asked for help in the Tripoli raid.
Guess what?
|>>Nobody would stand up and be counted. The USA was completely alone - no 
|>>European countries would help in the fight against Libyan terrorism because 
|>>they were too scared of reprisals. 
|>
|>Maybe no one else was convinced that the Libyans were in fact behind
|>the bombing of the German disco (the US raid was claimed to be a
|>reprisal for this). And they were quite right to be sceptical, because
|>it later turned out that the Syrians, not the Libyans, were behind it.
|>
|>If European countries chose not to cooperate in this US atrocity, then
|>good for them. I only wish that Britain wasn't such a pathetic little
|>puppy dog in following the americans in everything they do.
The British Government had reasons of its own for disliking Libya. Their 
support of IRA and the murder of the women police officer by a Libyan 
"diplomat". Even if they weren't guilty of the German Disco bombing 
they have plenty of other blood on their hands. Perhaps Britain should 
of bombed Libya itself rather than have the Americans do their dirty work
for them. The RAF killed plenty of German civilians by bombing the shit out
of Germany during WWII, so a precedent exists.
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Anglepoise Lamps
Date: 16 Dec 1992 10:04:54 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Dec15.160806.9130@maths.tcd.ie>, pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes:

> 
> This is truly frightening. Isn't it obvious? 'Sesame St' is A CIA FRONT.
> Think of it. Get the kids to start speaking in an American accent - the
> next thing, they'll want to be part of the US.
> 
> Stop 'Sesame St' before it's too late. Make them watch 'Bagpuss' or 'The
> Magic Roundabout' instead - good, solid entertainment, chockablock
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> with English accents.
> 


'The Magic Roundabout' is French...

Steve

-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
From: sandee@vs11.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Green cards
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:50:21 GMT
Reply-To: sandee@vs11.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <Bz9AD4.9B8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney) writes:
>Can anyone tell me why Green Cards are actually blue? Mine is. Does
>the colour of these things have some significance? Are Green ones
>reserved for Hispanics, Blue for Europeans etc.? 

The colour appears to be dependent on age. If you see what I mean. For the
last few years, they've been pink (mine is, and I count as a European).
It's a long time since they were green, although everybody still uses the
term.
Now WHY the INS changes the colour occasionally, I don't know.

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@scri.fsu.edu
Thinking Machines Corporation
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute, B-186
Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052  (904) 644-4490
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: n36c@pnet16.cts.com (Rm1 Straight)
Subject: Last Names
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:56:04 GMT

Without causing disrespect, can anyone tell me the last name of the Royal
family. It would be greatly appreciated.
                                              Str8
when i plays i plays hard. when i thinks i falls to sleep.
From: alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:07:06 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Dec11.065729.24255@osf.org> sp@osf.org (Simon Patience) writes:
>
>Even more overdue when you consider that there are more catholics that
>regularly attend church than c-of-e in Britain and neither of these groups
>can muster as much as 2% of the population. (1.7 cofe, 1.9 cath, source
>Economist disclaimer: working from memory)
>

Does the CofE figure apply to England, or Britain.  If the latter, its
bound to be skewed by the fact the the CofE doesn't exist in the other
componant countries.  

Btw.  The Monarch does not have to be head of an Established church.
The Church of Scotland is the Established church in Scotland (whatever
that means), and the monarch is very definately not the head. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Help: Royal titles and succession to throne
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:25:37 GMT

   Debrett's Peerage, which is available in the reference sections of
better libraries (even in the USA,) in its preface goes into immense
detail about the rules of succession to the throne.

   It also goes into order of precedence in such detail that if you
invited the entire aristocracy to lunch, and if they came, you would
know exactly where to seat everyone.  

   I'm not really a royal watcher; this is just one of the odd pieces of
information I've picked up by hanging around in libraries.   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Gerry prayer corner
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:05:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.025806.28341@osf.org> dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>snuffy@netmbx.netmbx.de (R.J. Bartle) writes:
>>
>>Well here the brit war pensioner again who has been made more welcome here in
>>berlin the last 14 years whan i was most of my life in britain and 25 other
>>coutries! Just tellin you how incredibaly BIZARE I find lawrences mails!
>
>Does DSY have a student?
>-- 

I was thinking rather the other way around.  Dave's too young to
be a war pensioner.  This is a startling development; we may need
to define Yadalleean as a dialect of Bartlish.  Have to see how things
go.  s.c.b, a language laboratory in action.
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Lamont's wine and PRIVATE EYE
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:10:37 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.


  So we now get the "Affair of Gummer's Pond" the umpteenth "scandal"
this Governemt has faced in the last 3 months.  Private Eye normally
has knowledge about the scandels in politics, have the recent back
issues mentioned any scandals which have not made it to the daily 
papers yet?

  The business about Lamont's purchases of stuff from the off-license
has had a very odd end, almost as if pressure has been brought to 
bear on the accusers to force them to withdraw.
Has Private Eye being suggesting this?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: ark@unislc.uucp (Adam King)
Subject: Re: "Green" Cards
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:24:39 GMT

ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331 (alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com) wrote:
: In article 9B8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com, patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney) writes:
: >*>Can anyone tell me why Green Cards are actually blue? Mine is. Does
: >*>the colour of these things have some significance? Are Green ones
: >*>reserved for Hispanics, Blue for Europeans etc.? 
: >*>
: 	Stuff deleted..
: 
: NO I don't think so, Mine (and another 2 guys I know who work here (all British))
:  is WHITE... Maybe you are in a secret group or something!! Or maybe all the ones 
: out of Miami are white and so forth!!
: 
Really! Mine (British also) is pink!
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From: willemsdawnm@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: wedding customs?
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:09:05 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I am currently doing a paper on wedding customs of diffent societies.  I would
appreciate any information anyone can provide for me.
Please send info to willemsdawnm.bvc.edu

thanks
dawn
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: ahall@library1.library.carleton.ca (Alison Hall)
Subject: Re: request for songs
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:43:42 GMT

>Does anyone have Stanley Holloway's King Harold
>("With his eye full o' arra'
>On 'is 'orse, with 'is  'awk in 'is 'and)
>poem?
>
I have a couple of books; Albert and Balbus and Samuel Small; and
Normans and saxons and such. Thought I hae Albert and the Lion somewhere,
but can't find it.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Robertson's Golly Badges.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:26:46 GMT

In article <BzBs3q.3zo@ecf.toronto.edu> ambidge@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) writes:
>In article <BzBq6E.2J1@dscomsa.desy.de> Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de writes:
>>In article <1992Dec15.215613.18500@netcom.com>, 
>>sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes in soc.culture.british:
>>|>ObChristmasAnecdote:  My older cousins received a full complement of 
>>|>Barbie/Ken dolls for Christmas eons ago.  My aunt looked at the hooters on
>>|>Barbie, and was seized with a sudden graphic thought.  She grabbed the
>>|>Ken doll, which had yet to be manipulated much, and ripped off his
>>|>trousers.  After all, Barbie was the first semi-anatomically-correct
>>|>doll any of them had ever seen.  You can hardly wonder at her anxiety.
>>
>>I'm not quite sure about this paragraph. What is wrong with a doll having
>>an anatomically correct nose? And You used the plural...
>>Did the dolls perchance have more than one nose? That, methinks, could
>>conceivably explain the anxiety, but only just.
>
>
>Methinks we have another case of "divided by a common language" 
>here, as we have just observed with "pecker"
>

I doubt it.  

>In North America, "hooters" is a vernacular term for female breasts.
>I had not  made the connection until I read this, but "hooter" did
>refer to one's nose when I was in school playgrounds in England.
>
>As I recall, Barbie and Ken are only anatomically correct above the 
>waist and from mid-thigh down.
>
>Ah, prudery.
>

No, surprise (sprinkled with a dash of prurient interest).  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: The Welsh Flag
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:08:43 GMT

Robert.Evans@cm.cf.ac.uk (Robert Evans) writes:
	Among other things

The Crosses of St George (England) and of St Andrew (Scotland) are both 
unofficially used to represent the English and Scots nations.  Their
official use ended in 1707 : when the Kingdoms were merged.


Now as we know from another thread, the C of E is the ESTABLISHED church
If the Cross of St George has no official standing why is it flown from
the top of village churches all over the country (i.e. England) on high
days and holidays?

Richard Pennell, History NUS

Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:17627 soc.culture.celtic:8220
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Last King of Scotland (was Dates 1603, 1688, and 1707)
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:15:25 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.

walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:

>The problems associated with the dates 1688, 1707, 1715, and 1745, have
>always caused mixed emotions in Scotland. Some may view 1688 as being a
>black day for Scotland because the "ligitimate" heir to the throne was
>replaced by parliment with a more acceptable monarch. However, from the

  On a radio quiz they said James II (is that VIII of Scotland? ) was
the last king of Scotland.  Is this right?  
Was it not William from William III and Mary II (of England)?

I know Scotland had a William the Lion before the year 1300, so would
this make William of Orange William II of Scotland?

>"republican" point of view (which I would suggest only came into being
>after 1789) this date marks the date when power was transfered from one
>person (the king or queen) to parliment (a first step in giving power to
>the populace (sp?) at large). 1688, 1715, and 1745 also caused problems for
>protestant scots, at that time, in that they wished to support "scotland" but
>equally did not want a catholic monarch. As for 1707,  many people (scots)
>regard this also as a betrayal (sp?), with the rich selling "scotlands
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>birthright."

How do they feel about Maastricht, when once again the Parliament which
rules them is linking itself to a bigger state(s), and where once in
it may be very difficult to leave.  And once again all this is being
done without asking the populace.

>														GW
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth)
Subject: Re: Do we really need the monarchy?
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:04:54 EST

In article <1992Dec17.164928.7051@mdivax1.uucp> robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson) writes:

>What? The future (well, maybe) Queen of England (and Canada) never made it
>out of the Brit equivalent of grade 12? A high school drop-out for a
>Queen? Say it ain't so.

O, the horror!  I mean, remember that famous speech at Tilbury by Queen
Elizabeth I:

	"I may be but a weak and feeble woman, but I have the
	 heart and liver of a king, ten O-levels, three A-levels,
	 and a Diploma in Advanced Beheading, so eat my shorts,
	 Philip II!"

How could we ever have defeated the Invincible Armada without her?
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:20:26 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Last name

In article <1gktrhINNb97@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S.
Hlabse) says:
>
>This has been covered before but here it is again:
>
>The present last name is Windsor.
>
>The queen changed this for future members of the family and it is
>confusing to say the least.  For those who come to the throne it
>will remain Windsor but Andrew, Edward and Anne are Windsor-Mountbatten.

No they are not, I believe the decree spitulates that only great grand children
of Elizabeth who are not Royal Princes will be named Windsor-Mountbatten, this
specifically excludes Andrew, Edward, Anne and their children.

>Since Andrew is now the Duke of York I assume that changes for him.
>Anne signed her marriage certificate (to Mark Phillips) Windsor-Mountbatten.
>I don't know what Edward is using.
>
>If anyone has more information please post it.
>
>--
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
From: hugh@cs.kun.nl (Hugh Osborne)
Subject: Re: The Scottish National Anthem (was Re: The story of the Scottish flag)
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:47:48 GMT

In <JIM.92Dec11120335@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:

>In article <1992Dec8.120815.27429@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> cabr53@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("R.A.McPheat") writes:

>   Why is it so wrong to have Flower of Scotland as the Scottish national
>   anthem

>The words are totally unsuitable for a national anthem - the first
>line is practically a lament on the passing of Scotland as a sovereign
>state.

Try the Dutch national anthem...  The first couplet starts with

	William of Nassau am I, of German blood

and ends with

	I still owe allegiance to the king of Spain.

--
Hugh Osborne                              Dept. of Informatics
                                          University of Nijmegen
                                          The Netherlands
                                          +31-(0)80-65.25.99
From: edente@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Giles
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:04:37 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

At least one or two of the used book sellers on Cecil Ct. (between St.off St.
Martin's Lane and Charing Cross Rd.) carry many different recent annual
collections of Giles cartoons, each one for 1.50 Sterling.  I buy one or
two every time I go to London (along with mountains of other very inexpen-
sive books I know I'll never find in the US.)  My wife and I like to leave
Giles books
    around our living room  so that we can watch our guests
scratch their heads and look quizzically at each other as they leaf through
them.

Ed Dente                                 "Proeliator fuissem" - Marlon Brando?
From: mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:47:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <1992Dec11.234047.1406@nuscc.nus.sg> hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
>sp@osf.org (Simon Patience) writes:
>       [stuff deleted]
>
>: Even more overdue when you consider that there are more catholics that
>: regularly attend church than c-of-e in Britain and neither of these groups
>: can muster as much as 2% of the population. (1.7 cofe, 1.9 cath, source
>: Economist disclaimer: working from memory)
>
>
>       I remember reading that thre were more practising Muslims than either
>- does anyone know if this is correct.
>
Well, it rather depends on ignoring the fact that Islam is just
as divided up into different sects as Christianity. It also
seems to involve the widest possible definition of a
"practising Muslim" and the narrowest possible definition of a
"practising Christian".

Matthew Huntbach
From: mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:50:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <1992Dec12.032153.593@fwi.uva.nl> hm@fwi.uva.nl (Hans Mulder) writes:
>This can't be correct: in 1698, the king of England was William of Orange.
>If there ever was a king of England who couldn't divorce and keep his job,
>it was William, since he was king only by virtue of his being married to
>Mary Stuart when she inherited the throne.
>
Not exactly. He could still claim descent from British royalty,
in fact I think he was in any case next in line after Mary and
discounting all Catholics.

Matthew Huntbach