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From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: A Technical Request
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:25:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <1992Oct12.165200.28821@advtech.uswest.com> steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak) writes:
>> = (William Crosmun) writes:
>>>lund@noao.edu (Rich Lund) writes:
>
>[...]
>>>For Christ's sake, think for yourself, man!
>
>>>Reagan Bush have lied to you for twelve years!  Lied, lied, and
>>>lied again!  They have come damn close to bankrupting the country,
>>>and *you* talk about big spender liberals?
>
>>What is Clinton going to do differently?
>
>For one, quit appointing far-right wing judges like Clarence "Long Dong
>Silver" Thomas.

No, he's going to appoint far left judges like Mario "I never met a tax I
didn't like" Cuomo.  The Supreme Court is supposed to be an interpretive
body, not a legislative body.  We need judges who will not let us look to the
court for laws that we can't get from the legislature.

>
>That alone makes him worth his weight in electoral votes.
>
>The politics of exclusion, division and fear is another hallmark of
>Republican presidents dating back to when Eisenhower was too afraid to
>stand up to Joe McCarthy and the power behind the throne, Ray "I Hate
>Jews and Homos" Cohn, the Jewish homosexual.  Clinton will not allow
>such hatred to rule the day as Bush the Wimp has done.

If you want to talk politics of division and fear, how about the class
warfare that Clinton has engaged in.  Frankly, I feel slimy every time I
think that, if Clinton becomes President, at least I'm not in the upper
2% of income.  I hate that feeling and I despise the man who invokes it.  As
for fear, how about the current ads Clinton is running accusing the President
of paying companies to ship jobs out of the country.  How about his
accusations that Bush will gut Social Security and Medicare. 

>
>
>
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William Crosmun
crosmun@dg-rtp.dg.com

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"If an aging America ever begins to lose its short-term memory, it will really
 be in trouble - because that's the only kind of memory this country seems to
 have.  There's a perpetual tendency to believe that whatever is going on at
 this particular moment is absolutely unique in human history, but will,
 paradoxically, continue now into the indefinite future.  Both assumptions are
 certain to be wrong, but meanwhile they have sent a passel of chickens
 scuttling hysterically around the U.S. barnyard."
  
                                                  Louis Rukeyser - 1992

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:38:43 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: CLINTON SMASHES BUSH IN SECOND DEBATE
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: na, usa
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: 

nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
| tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
| >[Actually, I thought it came out pretty much as we expected - no clear 
| >winners or losers.
| 
|     Perhaps not. I thought that Clinton sounded much better this time 
| around. He's obviously more comfortable with that open format. I loved 
| the post-debate question that NBC asked Bush; "Did you achieve what you 
| wanted in this debate?" Bush's response of "Gee, I dunno" seemed very 
| candid.
| 
| >But that was true of the Quayleee/Gore debate too, and lots of dittoheads 
| >wrote "Quayleeee beats Gore" hoping that by pretending it was so, it would 
| >make it so.
| 
|     Here again, perhaps. I thought that to the extent that Quayle exceeded 
| peoples' expectations he really did win points from that debate, even if he 
| wasn't the hands-down winner of the debate overall.

You know, Nathan, postings like this one just destroy all the
stereotypes about liberals that we conservatives cherish so much. 

It's downright scary. ;^)

Geoff

p.s. I agree, Clinton didn't look like the robo-candidate in this
     debate, but listening to him still gave me cavities.

p.p.s. After the V.P. debate, I checked alt.fan.dan-quayle (which, for those not familiar with
       it is anything *but* a fan group) and was quite surprised to find
       folks there commenting on how well Quayle had done.  Amazing. 

p.p.p.s. What's also amazing is that those comments in
         alt.fan.dan-quayle weren't crossposted to one of the Rush
         Limbaugh groups.  ;^)

-- 
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uunet!pmafire!geoff   \   a two-inch long, living booger?
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From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:33:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Rush is bad for our country, NOT!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes:

> 
> Thank the fates that when Bush falls, Rush will fall...
> 
Don't count on it.  There is a big market out there for what rush
is selling.  If the "conservatives" lose, all these people will
pay rush to console them and tell them they are right and that
all the evil and stupid media dupes elected Clinton.

He will make a mint making fun the Clinton administration and
reminding his followers that they must rescue the world from
liberalism in the next election.  No, rush is correct, he will
be around for a LONG time.  There is no reason whatsoever to
expect that he will not.

doug
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: Two down... one to go!
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: world 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:14:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.025444.9186@news.ysu.edu> ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes:
>
[about Rush]
>>>
>>>The man is a genius. 
>>> 
>>>
>>I'll drink to that!
>>
>>
>
>Poison?

Those who don't like Rush, make comments like these... 


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>****************Know God...No peace.  No God...Know peace.****************

I'm NOT ADVOCATING A THEOCRACY here, but... 

What do you think about "In God we trust" on the back of the US Dollar
bill?
Isn't that a flagrant violation of Freedom of Religion, and if so, why
don't you ask your representative in Congress to have it removed? 


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From: lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: GEORGE BUSH, STOP THE RED-BAITING
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <Bvv9Ky.BK5@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>
>So just how did they work for the same company for 40 years if the sample
>was taken from ages 25 to 63, eh?

	Retires two years early.  It can happen, but not necessary.
>
>(Data point -- my father, thanks to the fact he turned eighteen four months
>before D-Day, didn't get his Ph.D. until the end of 1955, when I was six
>months old.  He worked for the same company (though with different
>subsidiaries) until he retired in 1986 at age 60 -- and he'll turn 67 in
>about four months, up in eastern Kentucky about 120 miles from you.  Would
>you like to explain your math to him?  :-)

	Huh?  I said dead or broke, not just dead.  Does he work at all?
Do you send him money?  Does he have debt?


Bryon

>     +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 776-1541 at home. 667-6554 at Palace Lanes. 
			 ^^^^^

i c.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: leescogg@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Lee)
Subject: Re: Quayle Smashes Gore...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:23:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.005736.14928@athena.cs.uga.edu> tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda) writes:
>Well, like I thought would happen, Quayle demoloshid Gore in the debate.  It
>looks like Quayle could be the only thing that might possibly save Bush.  
>
>Ted K.
Were we watching the same debate?  I can't say that Quayle OR Gore looked all
that much better than the other.  There was only one person that looked bad,
and that was Stockdale.  He was completely out of his element.

In fact, the highlight of the debate came when Quayle was making the comment
about limiting terms and Gore said, "we're fixin' to limit one."
From: bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bradley S. Corsello)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Bush - Desperation, Depression, and Danger
Date: 13 Oct 1992 04:53:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bradley S. Corsello)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Time is running out for Bush.  As Judgment Day approaches and the Bush
juggernaut just sits there like a stripped '72 Dodge Dart, the Bushpeople
are doubtless feeling the pangs of hopelessness.  According to some
Republican insiders, Bush himself is getting out of touch with reality.
As the "bunker mentality" takes hold, we face the very real danger that
Bush will be persuaded to use the power of the Presidency to save himself.

In order to prepare the reading public for the worst, I would like to invite
discussion on the following scenerios:

1.  Bush creates or exploits an international crisis.  I think that no
"Desert Storm II" is possible, given the time constraints, but a sudden
replay of the Panama invasion in some part of the world is likely.  We
may see a "pre-dawn vertical insertion" in Bagdhad, so that Saddam Hussein
("The Dictator", as Bush so cleverly named him) can be brought to justice.

2.  Initiatives against the persons of Clinton and his people.

  a.  The Frame-up.  It shouldn't be too hard to plant a big bag of heroin
  on Clinton or someone near him, there to be discovered by an alert DEA
  agent.  Frankly, the a-page-is-missing-from-Clinton's-passport-record
  miniscandal stunk to high heaven.  Prepare for more of the same.

  b.  Psych-ops.  Clinton, Gore, Hillary, and top functionaries are
  harrassed by the IRS, FBI, etc., in an effort to impede their effectivness.

  c.  Assassination.  God forbid, but remember, Bush is ex-CIA.  It would
  be so much easier for him if Clinton would drop over dead, no traces,
  no fingerprints, the medical examiner baffled...

I hope that Bush would have the grace and good sense to fade away quietly
rather than use scorched-earth tactics like these to preserve his power.
We shall see.
-- 
Brad Corsello (bsc7@po.cwru.edu) 2L Case Western Reserve Law School
"The Fanaticks have always had a way of affecting to run into Per-
secution, and count vast Merit upon every little Hardship they suffer."
^ J. Swift.  "Factum clarum, jus nebulosum."  Rex v. Haddock.
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From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh on Madonna (was Re: Summary Mon 10/5/92)
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:05:03 GMT
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <92280.013331KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.001338.27975@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) says:
>
>>        It seems that he _relished_ the thought of her being sexually
>>humiliated, which I find rather sick. Yes, sick. I think sex should be
>>for enjoyment, not for humiliation, whatever Rush Limbaugh may think.
>
>It was a joke.
>
>To you also get offended by Helen Keller jokes, Christa McAuliffe jokes,
>or blonde jokes?

You forgot "nigger" jokes, AIDS-patient jokes, handicapped-children jokes,
etc.  Rush seems like the kind of guy who talks real big unless the object
of his ridicule is present.  Let's see what kind of har-har he gets if he
makes AIDS jokes with a dying AIDS victim in the studio... If Rush's tar-
gets were on the show and able to respond to his comments, a lot of his
"proof by telepathy" (i.e., "what they _really_ want to do is") stuff
would quickly be revealed as the fanciful extrapolation that it is.

I can handle someone telling the occasional mean-spirited joke.  But when
someone consistently jokes about the same few things (e.g., sexist jokes
about women), you eventually get the impression that there's something more
than a few laughs behind it.  Sort of like the person who always makes 
"fag" jokes and turns out to be a closet gay...

I again salute Rush for helping point out how utterly dated and pitiful
Buchanan/Bush/Limbaugh/Bennett style conservatism is.

-- 
Larry Spence
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From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Need the auditor's name...
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:05:08 GMT
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


My local system here has gotten into quite an uproar about the validity of
Rush's claims of accuracy. Liberals are screaming for the name of the 
independant auditors he mentions as verifying his claim... anyone have any
idea who it is, and where they can be contacted?

Thanks!
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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: A Technical Request
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:11:27 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Oct14.131759.3582@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct14.154034.24228@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>> In article <adams.719073448@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>> >>Depending on whether or not you consider the Persian Gulf a major war,
>> >>the USA has fought 4 or 5 wars in this century (not including minor
>> >>bloodlettings here and there).  Democratic presidents have taken us 
>> >>into the first four.
>> 
>> >I guess FDR asked the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor?
>> 
>> Actually almost did: He put an economic embargo on Japan, covering just
>> about everything that keeps their domestic economy going but especially
>> oil. He further made it clear that the United States would get into the
>> war, if Japan invaded Indochina or the East Indes (e.g. in an effort to
>> sieze resources they lacked because of the embargo.) Essentially, Roosevelt
>> put Japan in the position of reversing a quarter century's worth of 
>> foreign policy/military gains or fighting a war with the United States.
> 
> Sounds like a good policy.  FDR was right an the isolationist Republicans
> were wrong...

	So you aren't supporting the isolationist/protectionist Democrats this
time? :)

	FDR was also actively involving us in the European conflict.  US ships
had been sunk and action taken against German subs.

> EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)

	Heh, he pretty much stunk in the playoffs this year....

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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Religious rights and responsibilities
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:10:10 GMT
Distribution: world, na, usa
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

In article <1992Oct9.041211.7852@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin) writes:
>tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>
>>Okay,  then are you sayin the Roman Catholic Church, which based the
>>inquisition on the Bible
>
>NOT!  Where do you learn your history?

It just so happens that I have read parts of the Bulls of Inquisition.   How 
much would you like to bet (real money) that the scriptures form the basis 
of the arguement?    Hmmm?  Willing to bet money????
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Re: Two down... one to go!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:19:29 GMT

alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.004510.22586@csus.edu> chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>>
>>Rush Limbaugh is the MOST listened to on the radio 
>>and the MOST read in the non-fiction books section... In history.

>	Rush Limbaugh's book has sold more copies then the Bible?

>	Or is that a "Fiction" text?


Also...where do you get your facts?  From the mouth of Rush?

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From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Quayle Smashes Gore...
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:29:06 GMT

In article <2058@celia.UUCP> celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:

> Was this the first time a presidential or vice presidential candidate
>was ever hissed at during a debate ? What an awful performance. Even the
>admiral out did him on his most important topic, the environment. What
>would happen if Gore went up against a conservative first stringer ?

	Well, all I can say is thank God that Quayle isn't a first stringer.
I must say that it's refreshing to hear that from a Republican, though.

	I don't think that the hissing reflected on Gore nearly as much
as it did on Quayle. In spite ofthe candidates behavior, this is supposed
to be serious stuff, and the "drunken frat boy" behavior if Quayles hand
picked supporters was pretty disgusting. I suspect that it was the cavalier
attitude that contributed to the negative response in the polls after the 
show.

	Neither Gore nor Stockwell appear well on televison. In retrospect,
I'm gaining more respect for the Admiral by the minute.




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   the socially conscious and the well informed. What about the rest of us?"
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From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Re: Rush is bad for our country, NOT!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:13:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, eric@wdl35.wdl.loral.com (Eric Kuhnen) writes:

> 
> I seriously doubt that you have incontrovertable proof that God doesn't
> exist; therefore, you cannot call yourself an Atheist, according to the
> definition of "atheism."

Sheesh!  I don't have incontrovertable proof the Zeus, Thor,
and Loki don't exist.  I have no incontrovertable proof that 
Godzilla and Mothra don't exist.  Should I woship them?

> 
> Furthermore, I testify that the only way lasting Peace may be achieved is
> by knowing the true character of God.

Yeah yeah.
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:01:47 GMT
Subject: Re: A Note on Book Sales
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l) writes:

> ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
> 
> Publicity for a product only works if people have any propensity at all
> for desiring the product.  If they couldn't care less about the product
> you could hype it from now til Doomsday on every available media channel
> and still not sell one bit of it.  The sale of Clinton/Gore books, given
> the incredibly wide media coverage those two dipper-heads have been 
> getting, may be a very good indication that the polls are not polling
> what the pollsters think they are.  


What a crock.  Just because people do not want to read their books does
not mean that they will not vote for them.  Your conclusion is
totally unsupported by your premise.

> It certainly demonstrates that Rush's
> conservative audience is a lot more interested in educating themselves
> about the people they hear on media channels than are the liberals who
> follow a deFlowered Clinton and the Gour(d) Head.

Don't fool yourself.  A lot of the people that bought this book are
probably what Rush would call liberal.  Many people read Mein Kampf
and the Communist Manifesto without adopting or agreeing with the
ideas therein.  Rush's huge book sales are most likely a function
of his controversy and highly visible entertainment posture.
The fact that his books are selling does not necessarily indicate
agreement with or validity in his ideas.

As I said, I may read the book, and I think the man is a buffoon.

doug
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: Re: Two down... one to go!
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:59:49 GMT


In a previous article, chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) says:

[...]

>
>Those who don't like Rush, make comments like these... 
>
>
>>-- 
>>*...your Friendly Neighborhood Atheist // "Assembly of God???  Strange.. *
>>*      the KelleyMan:Kelley L. Miller // I was not aware that the diety  *    
>>*                  ae642@yfn.ysu.edu // was available in source form..." *
>>****************Know God...No peace.  No God...Know peace.****************
>
>I'm NOT ADVOCATING A THEOCRACY here, but... 
>
>What do you think about "In God we trust" on the back of the US Dollar
>bill?
>Isn't that a flagrant violation of Freedom of Religion, and if so, why
>don't you ask your representative in Congress to have it removed? 
>

I believe it is a violation of freedom of religion, and I have written my
congressman (James Trafficant (D-17 OH), and my Senators (Juhn Glenn, Howard
Metzenbaum) about this issue, as well as other issues of idealogical freedom,
including the ritualized forced patriotic indoctrination of our shcool
children (the Pledge of Allegience), and the insistance of some state courts
(Ohio not included) insistance that all witnesses take an anti-purgery oath
which requires placing ones hand on a bible, or saying "...so help me God."
as an affermation. (Texas, Utah, ect.)

I have also actively protested the habit of the courts, in alchahol or
drug related cases, of including as part of the sentence requireing the
convicted person to enter A. A. or N. A. because of the serenity pledge
(God, grant me the wisdom...)

Why do you ask?

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