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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Shroom and Waffle
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 23:15:11 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
> system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> 
> > The problem I've run into is when my new user batch file starts up, or
> > if I shell from remote the last thing that's seen is Shroom's swap message.
> > Then nothing. The system isn't locked up, just no i/o to the modem.
> > 
> > I'm using the following command line:
> > 
> >     shroom -p -s D:\ WAFFLE %1
> > 
> > Anyone else run into this? 
> 
> When Waffle gets swapped to disk, it is no longer there to handle
> i/o. I use shroom and specify exactally which applications to swap
> Waffle out for...
> 
> SHROOM -v -sc:\temp -twafmail.exe,rwmail.exe C:\WAFFLE\BIN\WAFFLE %1
> 
> Wafmail uses the fossil for i/o, so it's happy. And rwmail is only
> run from the local console, so no i/o is needed.
> 
> If you want to be able to shell to DOS using shroom, chances are
> you'd need DOORWAY, or something like that.

I did that and everything worked fine until I EXITed back to Waffle.
Then I lost all I/O. Same thing with the newuser batch.

I found that adding /RESET to my extern lines fixes the problem.



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From: system@precipice.chi.il.us (Vikki Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Gedit for Waffle
Summary: Nice and getting REAL close !
Keywords: Messydos version only.
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 19:24:59 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Welch Research, McHenry IL, USA

Hi Again (finally)!

  Perhaps you remember this brief thread a month or so ago.  I
have been working with Chris Patterson, the author of Gedit and
we have it running at this site.  Preliminary testing does look
good.

This is for the messydos version of waffle.

  There is still a problem with line length as it does the
standard fidonet (etc) bit of expecting the other software to
deal with word wrap/text formatting.  I *think* that this should
be around 70/72 characters.  If anyone knows what it going on
with this for sure, please let me know as I don't want to be
responsible for those yukky-to-read-messages getting inserted
into the net from this site.  It is currently on line here but I
have threatened the users about the line length problem :).

If anyone is still interested in this, please email me for
particulars.  Once I get the formatting thing worked out (and a
couple questions answered) with Chris, it will be quite usable.

I have software to interface waffle to GEdit, but it is currently
written as a shell script using Thompson Toolkit (a unixie shell
for messydos).  I'll either implement it as a batch process or
write a 'C' program to handle it and post it to this newsgroup or
make it available here as I don't know how many messydos sites
have uudecode (alternate could be to post it to my bossnode for
FREQ).  Let me know what Y'all think.

Take care, Vikki.
From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle "dirs" File
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 06:52:20 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

| steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:
| 
| >If this is true then it is going to be very difficut to manage this file!
| 
| I just checked--ours is 249 entries in length.  Took a little initial
| setup, but it's been a no-brainer ever since (liberal use of search
| and destroy macros, sort, etc.).

Mine is about 80+ entries, and includes additional parameters for RFiles 2.2
and for two programs I wrote to accept Fidonet file echos as well as
posting new files to a Usenet newsgroup uuencoded.

I do have an automatic dirs file generator, but even so I have to remember
to change all '\' to '/' (by hand usually) since I never got around
to figuring out how to get awk to do this.

All that aside, even with automatic dirs file generation, it precludes
the use of the new parameters that I have.  I also have to remember to
include my uploads directory, which is not a subdirectory under the files
area.

I don't understand why it has to have numeric entries (first number).  I'd
like to see the dirs file become more like the usenet/local files.  For
instance, the following could describe my entire file area (currently
85 lines long):
---------

#DEFAULT /banner=@banner /rban=@banner /access=-1 /free /tree="c:/public"

/dir="c:/new/@uploads" /deposit
/dir="fidonews/new" /echo=FIDONEWS /news=fidonet.fidonews

---------
Wouldn't that be better???


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From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle, OS/2, and You
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:09:16 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

> phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop) writes:
> 
> > Hi there.
> > 
> > I'm a happy, registered user of Waffle, except for one small, minor detail.
> > 
> > I can't use my computer for anything else while Waffle is running.  OK, I k
> > picky picky, but sometimes I'd like to just check a phone number or add an
> > entry into my checkbook program, and off goes the modem, ring ring.  Anyway
> > since I can't get Waffle to run reliably under Windows (my previous
> > experiences included hard drives that suddenly forgot what files they conta
> > and modems that fail to reset properly), I'm giving OS/2 a shot.
> > 
> > So my question is this: What have your experiences running Waffle under OS/
> > been like?  Good, bad, what?  Will I need to run out and find new fossil
> > drivers, or will things run just hunky dory with Waffle's native driver?
> > Or, am I setting myself up for disaster?
> > --
Well this doesn't answer your question, but my experience may be of 
interest. I am a 5 month user of Waffle and hope to register when my 
wife gets paid next....

I ran version 1.64 under Windows 3.0 (8MB RAM, DR DOS 6.0, Enhanced 
Mode) in native mode, with no problems. I then used a FOSSIL (X00). No 
problems. Switched to Windows 3.1. No problems. Switched to 1.65 no 
problems. (Been running for 2 months now, including a usenet feed). And 
I was using modem port 4 (native mode) and modem port 2 (FOSSIL 
mode=port 1, since real programmers count from zero).


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From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: DOS 1.65 UUCICO bug
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:17:35 CDT
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:
>
> >  I just found a bug in UUCICO. My remote host was 'unable to create work
> >file.' Waffle didn't do anything to the .DAT and .XQT files, but still
> >deleted the .CMD file!! I have to manually create these now so that this
> >'lost' mail will get out.
>
> Are you saying you WANT to make another phone call, that will ALSO fail?
> What if this call were a toll one?  I can see Waffle dutifully making
> a call every 'n' minutes, at whatever toll rates are in effect.  I think
> the deletion of the CMD file is necessary.  What would you rather see?

  I guess this could be an option. Either don't erase the .CMD file, or
rename it to something (.CMB, CoMmand Bad), so it can be easily 'fixed.'
Problem is, UUQ does NOT show anything that doesn't have a .CMD file.
Someone could think everything is going fine, when in reality they're spool
directory is piling up.
  An idea: Have .CMH and .CMF files. Have UUQ recognize these, as Hold and
Failed data.

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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle "dirs" File
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 15:17:35 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:

> Do all of the silly numbers in the left hand column of the dirs file have to
> be consecutive? (if so what a dumb idea!)

I don't believe so.  I've edited the /dirs file causing it to
have gaps and I have not noticed any problems in the Files area.


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From: prisoner@village.freeside.com (The Prisoner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Aliasing over a an account name.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:24:08 PDT
Organization: The Village

eoin@xocolatl.com (John Snyder) writes:

> A short while ago some one asked how to forward mail to another
> account, but still have the mail show up in the original account.
> 
> Here is how I figured out how to do it.
> 
> ~/aliases
> 
> #  Alias to be expanded that just happens to an account name.
> #     It is split into two dummy aliases for clarity and avoid
> #     not being about to combine redirection with an address.
> #
> eoin       eoin1 eoin2
> #
> #  Redirect into a mailbox file.  Just happens it is the mailbox
> #      of the user whose name we are aliasing.
> #
> eoin1      = ~/user/eoin/mailbox
> #
> #  Redirect to my address elsewhere.
> #
> eoin2      eoin@laptop.xocolatl.com
> 
> 
> 
>    \|/  Eoin   eoin@xocolatl.com   *
> 
Thanks! Ill give it a try tonight!


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: RAM drive
From: bcrock@happy.nuts.almanac.bc.ca (Brad Crockett)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:05:01 PDT
Organization: 'Happy' in Duncan, BC, Canada

I'd like to get UUXQT to do its processing on my RAM drive instead
of pounding away on the hard drive like it does.  Is anyone out
there doing this?
From: system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: waffle and stacker ???
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:38:09 PDT
Organization: The Generation Gap

ferret@works.uucp (Dave Ferret) writes:

> I've used Stacker for just about my entire drive for going on a year and 
> half, and haven't had any problems. It works quite nicely. 
> 
> But keep in mind, it compresses text a lot better than binaries, and ZIP 
> files (and other compressed files) I don't think compress very well at 
> all.. 

The Stacker manual claims that Stacker is smart enough to see compressed
files and leave them alone, ie. not attempt to compress them again.

I get about 4:1 compression on straight text files.

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From: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Help on ALIASES
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:21:04 GMT
Reply-To: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Organization: The Proteus Group, Montreal Canada

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

> randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid) writes:
> 
> | olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:
> 
> | IF you are like me and have 2000+ newsgroups you should consider using
> | David Nugent's 'mailq' utility.  This defers RMAIL/RNEWS until they can
> | be executed from a .BAT file, rather than being spawned from Waffle.
> | It works great and solves all those 'low memory' problems.
> 
> Where is this available?  Having seen how BNU and Inspect are, MailQ should
> be great.  THANKS DAVE!

I lost D. Nugent's email address but you can pick it up from my
system.

email to file-request@proteus.qc.ca

get waffle/mailq.lzh

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Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:3062 comp.os.msdos.desqview:3321
From: jdcarmack@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Getting Desqview to work.
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:15:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Oct7.201504.13404
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.msdos.desqview
Distribution: world
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <DcuoRB1w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>, frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
> Hi everyone:
> 
> Quite some time ago I purchased Desqview 386 which included version 2.26
> of Desqview as well as the QEMM software.
> 
I don't actually own Desqview yet, but I will when some cash comes my way.

[stuff deleted]
> 
> Basically, my CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT are just *loaded* with TSR's,
> device drivers, et al.  None of which I can live without.  I've got
> ANSI.SYS, a communications FOSSIL, compression software, SmartDrive, 
> DOSKEY, a mouse, a scanner, a SoundBlaster, you name it, it's there.
> 
We all have our favorites.  But how many items do you think that you can load
high before high memory gives out?

> All these TSR's, device drivers, etc. are all loaded high using the
> LOADHI program that comes with QEMM.  DOS itself is loaded high.
> 
> Anyways, the reason Desqview became shelfware in my case:  Never enough
> memory to do what I need to do.  I've got 4 MB of RAM and it seems such
> a shame to only get access to just over 435 KB of it per Desqview task!
> 
> With just QEMM running, if I use VIDRAM to disable my VGA graphics I've
> got *loads* of memory.  Over 600 KB, in fact.  Why don't I have this much
> per Desqview task?  I was under the impression Desqview ran in high
> memory?
> 
> I *need* this memory -- I run Borland C++ 3.0 and it is quite the memory
> hog...it isn't very happy with 435 KB, let me tell you!  And it seems
> that even when I get a task to use up all 435 KB of it, when I try to
> start another one I get, "A non-swappable window is in the way."  WHO
> CARES -- I'VE GOT 4 MB OF RAM!!!!!
> 
Like I said, I don't own Deskqview yet.  However, I too own Turbo C++.  I've
never encountered any problem like that.  What type of window is it?  If 
you mean a Windows window, then something is definitely wrong.  Like, maybe
you are running in Standard Mode?  Maybe you are not running in 32 bit mode
(your disk swap must be on to do this)?  And if you are not running Microsoft
Windows, then you are really wasting your time.  Desqview and Windows will
run together.  Windows uses a good memory manager, but not the best.  Desqview
makes a good thing better, but if you are running in Standard Mode, forget it.

Another thing to consider is a permanent swap disk for Windows.  Last, but
not least, read the Windows manual and check out comp.os.windows for non-
documented features.

Hope this is some help, anyways.

John Carmack
Miami University
Oxford, Ohio
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Help with news
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 00:24:21 CDT
Reply-To: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> In article <w3BksB1w164w@tcscs.src.honeywell.com> zeta@tcscs.src.honeywell.co
> |For some reason, waffle is setting up batches that sends data to the system 
> |that it just came from.  The uucpname of the system that I connect to is 
> |different, I gather, than the system name in the Path statement.
> 
> Put "/path=whatever" in your FEEDS file.  I.E.
> 
> psuvax1 /path=psuvax1.cs.psu.edu news,comp,alt,sci,soc,rec,misc,talk

I haven't had a problem with backfeeding unless I had * in the feeds and
received a mailinglist and gated it to news.
I feed whatever I post to rwsys because of propagation problems going
the other way but I currently receive all of my news from lawton,
although I just changed this recently I've had it this way before and
didn't get backfeeding, waffle seems smart enough not to batch news for
a system it just received it from no matter what the /path says unless
it was actually received as mail and converted to news.

lawton /path=rwsys /batch=compress ok,to.lawton
rwsys /path=lawton /batch=compress !info-ibm,!arrlb,!to.lawton,*

[...]
> |The problem part is I'm getting news from two different systems, and I have 
> |things set up so that the groups I get from one are included in the second 
> |with ! in front of it.  I think the messages are those that are cross-posted
> |and received from the first.  Is there a way to stop that?
> 
> You can use the /path= construct here, too.
> 
> site1 /path=site2,site1.com first.set.of.groups

From rnews.doc

o  Tweaking the flow of News

   The /path option can also be used to tweak the feeding
   of certain sites, where certain strange topologies must
   be worked around. Note that this is not perfect, but
   will eliminate some duplicate articles from transmission.

   An option to a feeds entry such as "/path=xyz" will
   prevent news that has traveled through xyz from being
   fed to a downstream site. This is useful if that site
   also talks to xyz, and you only wish traffic from
   your leaves to flow forward.

   Only one /path= entry is permitted for a given FEEDS
   entry. The /path= may contain a bang path.

> site2 /path=site1.com second.set.of.groups
> 
> (This FEEDS file example combines the problem above, of backfeeding because
> site1 puts site1.com in the Path: header, with the second problem, of not
> sending to site1 stuff that comes from site2, and vice versa.)
> 
>   Bill

Rick

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: FILES ( . option )
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:42:33 GMT

olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:

>ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

>> As an admin, you'll have the ability to go anywhere and do anything.
>> Create a John User account with normal access and try it.

>Thats not what my FILES.DOC file suggests ..... quote :

>/deny        Deny access to all users, even sysops 

It hate it when that happens.  I read sysops and thought assistant
admins.  Where's my meds?
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:3030 alt.config:6113
From: jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.bbs.waffle - Has it been rmgrouped yet?
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:33:37 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas)
Organization: Prime Time Productions Aurora, Illinois

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> : dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:
> : > Is alt.bbs.waffle dead and buried?
> : 
> : The good folks using the various gateway products, like Ed Hopper's 
> : uuPCB, are relative novices at the Usenet scene, apparently.  More than a 
> : few of them are configuring their systems for alt.bbs.waffle, apparently 
> : under the mistaken impression that Waffle sysadmins read that group.
> : 
> : I haven't read it in ages;  the only reason I'm allowing this follow-up 
> : is in the hopes some of these persons will see it and re-configure their 
> : systems to use comp.bbs.waffle...
> 
> 
> um, excuse me...
> do you really mean 'allowing' ?
> 
> that implies that you do against-common-netiquette things with things
> that you do not 'allow'...which (IMHO) nobody has any right to do.
> 
> You have the right (again IMHO) to not propagate a.b.w. since it's
> your system, but you don't have the right to force your decisions on
> others.
	YO! Vince...If I run a system and I don't allow follow-ups to
	Alt.anything then I have to allow the posting by adding the group 
	to the Usenet file and then posting to it!!!
	YES allow is the right word!!!
> 
> [...and yes, I think a.b.w. should'a been rmgroup'd...]
> 
> you mean 'the only reason Im responding is...' don't you ?
> 
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: julian@sdf.lonestar.org (P. Julian Eby)
Subject: Re: Login: prompt / modem control
Summary: Your user is BS'ing or ignorant...
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:51:42 GMT

> Um, I've had a user tell me he is able to take control of my modem from
> Waffle's login: prompt using a +++ command. Then he says he can enter AT
> commands. Fortunately I can trust the user not to take advantage of the
> situation. I cannot do the same from the console, nor do I have dial-in
> capabilities myself. Can someone else either confirm or dispell this?

He could just as easily "take control" from any other point in Waffle.

Just one catch...  it's HIS modem that will be taking the AT commands, not
yours.

Let's say he taps +++.  HIS modem will go offline (while keeping the 
connection open) and give a command prompt.  He can now give AT commands to
it.  Meantime, YOUR side simply sees silence on the line.  He types ATO to
go back online, and presto!  There's Waffle's login at the other end.  His
(erroneous) conclusion is that he can "take control" of your modem.  Nonsense.

At WORST, he could take your modem offline when Waffle echoes the +++
sequence.  Then both your modem and his go offline to command mode.  BUT,
modems do NOT take AT commands from over the modem, unless you have a loopback
test mode in effect, and I'm not even sure about that.  So the worst he can do
is cause himself to be locked out until he hangs up and calls back.  Even this
can be prevented, simply by changing the escape character in your modem's
S-registers to a control character which Waffle never echoes when typed.

Of course, if your modem uses the TIES escape sequence, a user could upload 
it in a text file and then TYPE it, but I can't see where this would do 
anything that hanging up and reinitializing the modem wouldn't fix.
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