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From: TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars Poll: Which is the best?
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:22:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92107.132254TJS107
Organization: Mindcrime

I've already sent my vote in, but maybe this will start some more discussion.
(As if the group needs it:  It's a day old and has over 150 posts!  I think
 it was very wise to seperate SW from rec.arts.sf.movies....)

I'm probably the only one, but I like ROTJ best.
TESB is my least favorite.  (I guess you know where that leaves SW...)

I like 'em all, I think most of us do, but I didn't like the bad guys prevailin
g in TESB.  At least the Falcon is in it a lot, though.
(Not to start another thread, but the Falcon is my favorite ship from the 3
 movies, but the A-wing and Y-wing are up there too.)

Star Wars is a classic, but I love the 3 battles going on at the end of ROTJ.
The space battles are the best!  That's my reason, I guess, why I like ROTJ the
best.
(Has anyone noticed the similarities between C3PO and Daffy Duck?  Seriously,
 think about it:  They are both always bitching about something or other...)

"Then we'll do it real quiet like."
"Hey;  It's _me_..."
                     -Han Solo
Sime
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From: awells@jarthur.claremont.edu (Adam "Servo" Wells)
Subject: Re: Excuse me for my ignorance...(SWRPG)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:41:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.045534.6089@athena.mit.edu> bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael Y Fan) writes:
>In article <74218@netnews.upenn.edu> forbes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Andrew H. Forbes) writes:
>
>Here's my Trivia question:  Who wasn't at his post?  If you don't understand
>this question, you need to watch the movies some more.

Oh, that's easy.  

Commander:  "TK421, why aren't you at your post?"
[Luke, inside the stormtrooper costume, shakes his head and points to his
helmet, indicating a bad radio or something.]

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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: Splinter??!?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:03:39 GMT
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When I saw the subject line of this post, I had just read the trivia
question dealing with Yoda and Fozzie Bear, so I immediately thought of
Splinter from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, and this thought
popped into my head... did Jim Henson do Splinter's voice, too? It's
been a while since I saw the movie, and I don't remember if Jim Henson
had already died when it came out (he *did* die, didn't he-- or did I
imagine that?), but it does seem to me that they sounded like the same
voice...

Misti
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the Lars'
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:50:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.195031.2770@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rzimeri@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rich P Zimering) writes:
>Its interesting how easily you accept the idea that the woman drops her name 
>when she gets married.  For all you know, in this galaxy far far away, they 
>pick new names.  Americans expect people everywhere to be just like them, and 
>it is well to remind them that this is an untrue fact.

For that matter, since it takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far far
away", why does the fact that Leia is Luke's sister mean that it is
impossible for there to be a romance or marriage between them?  After all,
you have no reason to believe they are anything like 20th Century
Americans....
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From: johnsd2@jec315.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: Many things.
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:04:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.192921.22035@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes:
[deletia- tons o stuff]
|> 
|> 6) The _Tantive IV_ captain's name was Antilles. So was Wedge's.
|> So far, no connection has been made. An interesting point here
|> is that in the escape pod, Threepio says, "That's funny. The 
|> damage doesn't look as bad from out here." A traitor on the
|> _Tantive IV_, perhaps?
|> 

Hmmm, that wasn't my interpretation of that line. What you see looking
out the pod window is the imperial cruiser (the Tantive IV is
in the hollow underneath the cruiser); I always thought that C3PO
thot that the imperial cruiser WAS the Tantive IV (ie he was looking
at the wrong ship);

[more deletia]
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From: masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Random musings...
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:08:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr16.000837.25638
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

WHAT ON EARTH IS THE "SW Holiday Special from 1978"???????
CAN ANYONE TELL ME, DOES ANYONE HAVE A COPY?

-Masa

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From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:56:23 GMT
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

I am so happy....I'll post after I actually read some...

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From: wilde@husc8.harvard.edu (Robert Wilde)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Radio Series
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:47:31 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <74316@netnews.upenn.edu> golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen "Jokey" Golden) writes:
>There were two Star Wars series done for NPR radio.  One was Star
>Wars and the other the Empire Strikes back. They were 13 half hour
>episodes of each.  They featured Mark Hamil as Luke, and Perry King
>as Han Solo.  Does anyone know where one could get a copy of these?
>
>-- Stephen Golden		           
>golden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu    	Anyone have change for a dollar?

	I'd be interested as well.  I remembering listening to the Star
Wars series, but I was really young at the time.  Mail me please if you
have any info on where I could possibly find tapes of these series.  Thanks,
Bob
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From: ksun@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kang Sun)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:35:17 GMT


I think that is true.  Star Wars started with Episode IV rather than I.

I believe Lucas is making the first saga right now but don't quote me on it.
It's just a rumor.  The info I had said Lucas is making another Star Wars
saga because the computer technology enables him to create some awsome
special effects.  If that's true.  I can't wait to see them.
From: masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: I'll get you, Luke Skywalker, and your little droid too!
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:02:00 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I heard George Lucas came up with the idea based on one of the Kurosawa
movies... Anyone know anything about this?

-Masa


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From: jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:26:29 GMT

From article <1992Apr15.181022.10825@athena.mit.edu>,
by pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip):

> Well, some years ago I've heard vague story that there are altogether 9
> volumes of STAR WARS all set (or planned?), with the movie trilogy making
> up the middle three of the saga. The first trilogy would tell something
> about Jedi during the late Republic. The last trilogy should tell stories
> about the second Republic. 

I read it in Time Magazine, in a year long long ago and in a place far far
away.  They were quoting a Mr. Lucas, I think, so it wasn't just a rumor.
The thing to remember, though, is that Lucas said that he expected the
three "prequels" and the three sequels to the great trilogy to be fairly
low-budget films, without the special effects overkill and heavy-handed
action of the central trilogy.
				Doug Jones
				jones@cs.uiowa.edu
From: jshiely@twain.helios.nd.edu (james shiely)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Bantha Tracks
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:04:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr16.160451.28506
Reply-To: jshiely@twain.helios.nd.edu (james shiely)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

The obscure nickname for Luke Skywalker to which ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu refers is "Wormie", I believe.
From: h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Unknown Author)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:57:40 GMT
Reply-To: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr15.183517.3247@muddcs.claremont.edu> ksun@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kang Sun) writes:
>
>I think that is true.  Star Wars started with Episode IV rather than I.
>
>I believe Lucas is making the first saga right now but don't quote me on it.
>It's just a rumor.  The info I had said Lucas is making another Star Wars
>saga because the computer technology enables him to create some awsome
>special effects.  If that's true.  I can't wait to see them.

  Check the latest issue of 'Cinemefantasque' ----> the one with the Aliens3
cover - Lucas says he's bored of doing Star Wars. He STARTED to do episode
7, but he gave it up, in favor of 'Young Indy'

  Doesn't that suck?


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From: davies@owlnet.rice.edu (Stephen Clark Davies)
Subject: Re: Which one of the trilogy you like most?
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:48:19 GMT

>The Subject line says it. STAR WARS, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and THE RETURN
>OF THE JEDI, which one you like most?
>
	Me too: I vote for Empire.  I watched Return of the Jedi the other
night, and had almost convinced myself that it was the best, but then just
to make sure I watched Empire, and boy, it definitely remains at the top.

	I don't like the movies just for the effects or the funny dialogue:
my favorite part of the SW movies is the character development between Luke,
Leia, Ben, DVader, and Yoda, and the incredibly beautiful story about the
Force and a boy's journey to manhood through it.  Empire explored that story
the best, I feel, bringing out Luke's impatient self, and dark-side tendencies.
Also, the Lando betrayal and Han-Leia love story was extremely well done.

	Additionally, I think that William's score for Empire was the best of
all three!  Especially with Han & Leia's love theme filling up that Dolby
sound at the end...


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From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Comix
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:59:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <2753@master.CNA.TEK.COM>, frankm@shadow.CNA.TEK.COM (Frank 'Scruff'
Miller) says:
>
>Are the original set of comic books worth anything .... as a kid
>I bought the first ten and then tucked them away.
>
>Frank
>--
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>thick.
>Unix Systems Administrator It fills my cat box oh so snug,
>frankm@master.CNA.TEK.COM  it always does the trick!!!

Not really...I just aquired over 3/4 of the whole set all at once for about
$2 a piece by trading other comics for them....

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Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 14:54:43 CDT
From: John Schulien <U21187@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: does anyone remember a star wars based novel ...

... that came out soon after the movie. All I remember is that it had Luke
and Leia hacking through a jungle planet. I don't even remember who wrote
the book. The plot didn't mesh very nicely with the subsequent movies. I
seem to remember them coming across various abandoned temples and shrines.

Well, is this vague enough?!? Any clues anyone?

Thanks,

- John
From: kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Geisha Dawn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Missing Scene in Star Wars
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:13:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Daniel
>Eric

>|>    How about that scene from Star Wars where Jabba the Hutt shows up at the 
>|> dock where the falcon is and tries to get his money from Han, btw, Jabba in 
>|> this scene is a HUMAN, kind of a fat one too! I've seen it twice ever in my
>|> life, and can't remember where. 
>|>                                                           -Eric

>According to one of the "Making of Star Wars" thingies, which included
>an interview with Lukas, this scene was never actually filmed, although
>the "making of" did show the story-board drawings.  Maybe this is what
>you were thinking of.

It was actually filmed.  Jabba was this big fat guy, kinda scruffy looking
and had all these bear skin-type rags draped on him.  They showed him
roaming around the docking bay talking to Han Solo.

I saw this if "From Star Wars to Jedi:  the Making of a Saga".  I'm 
pretty certain about this, although I haven't watched it in a while.

It was cut from the final copy (obviously) at the last minute.  I think
Making of a Saga was an HBO documentary (That's where I got it).


>                                    D. R. Risacher

kcw


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From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Antilles
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:43:53 GMT


ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (ronald reagan) writes:

>Woah:  I just noticed something I never saw/heard before, looking up that
>reference where C3P0 says "our last master"...The holograph of Leia is playing
>and Luke says "she's beautiful" and 3P0 says "I believe she was a passenger on
>our last voyage (not quoting directly here, anymore), a person of some
>importance if I recall".  Then he begins to say "Our captain was attached
>to..."  Anybody know what the hell he's about to say here, before Luke cuts him
>off?


Attatched to .. HER?
  protect her?
  xxx     her?

  (oh, excuse me.. :)

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From: pinette@fraser.sfu.ca (Gandolf the 23rd)
Subject: Re: trivia
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 21:09:36 GMT
From: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: C-3P0's Translations
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:26:05 GMT
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>>>>> On 17 Apr 92 17:56:57 GMT, davies@owlnet.rice.edu (Stephen Clark Davies) said:

davies> In article <1992Apr16.234932.9624@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> wang@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>Threepio is not being inconsistent, just discreet. [rest deleted]

davies> 	Good explanation.  That makes sense to me.

>He (Threepio) must be REALLY good at >translating languages.

davies> 	Easy trivia question along those lines:

davies> 	What was the *only* language in any of the SW movies which
davies> Threepio *couldn't* translate?

Imperial codes.

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From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip)
Subject: Which one of the trilogy you like most?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:21:58 GMT

The Subject line says it. STAR WARS, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and THE RETURN
OF THE JEDI, which one you like most?

Personally I like TESB the best, just because it's 'dark' enough, not the
happy-happy-all-the-bad-guys-got-wiped-out kind of ending.

Patrick

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From: sharon@wam.umd.edu (sharon)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:05:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.215522.18730@acsu.buffalo.edu> v122jr52@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas H Dunning) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.205718.18842@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, gat@forsight.jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat) writes...
>>In article <1992Apr15.183517.3247@muddcs.claremont.edu> ksun@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kang Sun) writes:
>>>
>>>I think that is true.  Star Wars started with Episode IV rather than I.
>> 
>>I don't think this is quite true.  All of the videos and re-releases of
>>Star Wars now open tantalizingly with the title "Episode IV: A New Age"
>>or whatever it is.  But way back in 1977 when Star Wars first came out it
>>was just Star Wars.  No episode number, no talk of a Grand Plan.
>
>We just had a 35mm copy of Star Wars here at SUNY Buffalo a few weeks back
>and it clearly had a "Chapter IV" or some other such designation.
>While this could be a re-release, I find that doubtful considering the
>shape the film was in and the cost for 35mm prints.
>
>						td

 I don't believe that it had anything about episode IV in the original 
title - please reference my other post about the film being edited. - Did 
your copy have the ce port scene in it ?
l
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Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 01:44:16 EDT
From: <MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Help needed on Boba Fett...
 <1992Apr16.050324.24340@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>

In reference to all that stuff/armament/skills/gizmos that Boba Fett has:
...hard to believe a simple jab to his rocket pack could send him to his doom,
huh? I always hated that. :-) BF was one of my favorite characters and seeing
his demise, especially that one, didn't go over too well with me.

--Brian
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From: tweaver@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Tim Weaver)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford
Organization: Kalamazoo College
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:30:51 GMT

> >Harrison Ford's career got "launched" by "American Grafitti", several years
> >before "Star Wars" came out.
> >
>         Oh, come on, now.  He had a teensey weensey tiny little insignificant
> part in AG, not hardly enough to launch him to stellardom.  All he does is
> play a cocky truck driver who appears in about 3 scenes in the movie to
> antagonize one of the main characters.  Actually, he wasn't even that good!

A small start is still a start (it also hooked him up with George which is
how he got into Star Wars).
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From: ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: I'll get you, Luke Skywalker, and your little droid too!
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:16:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Apr16.161601.24289
Organization: University of Virginia

RE:  Kurosawa/Lucas connection

I once read in the program notes for an art film festival that the
first SW film was based on a Kurosawa (sic?) film called "Hidden
Fortress".  I have not seen this film, but apparently most of the
characters and plot elements have parallels to SW.  This is not the
first time a Kurosawa samauri film has been adapted by an American 
director.  His excellent "Seven Samauri" became "The Magnificient
Seven" (IMO the Japanese version was better).

--Haridas