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From: firenza@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: So, what do we think of the Performa 600?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:18:35 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct12.141929.14657@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke) writes:
>
>>My personal belief is that at $1999 with keyboard in a 4/160, 3 nubus
>>and internal drive bay, the P600 is phenominal. Its a bit faster than an
>>SI (lets debate this little puppy....), more expansion than a CI, and
>>is priced like an LC used to be (oxymoron here...). 
>
>    Well, until someone does a speed comparison that is normalized
>properly with non-beta system software, we will have no idea how fast
>the P600 is relative to either the IIsi or the IIci. My guess is that it
>will be slightly slower than a cache carded IIci on somethings due to
>the cache, but without the cache it should be just a bit faster on
>everything except FPU math. In any case it should out perform the IIsi
>in every catagory. Depending on how you clasify "expansion" the P600
>wins out because of the 2 internal drive bays, on 3.5 and one 5.25, but
>the IIci has 3 NuBus slots just like the P600 does.

Check out the current MacWorld.  It's got an article on the new Performas and
speed comparisons between the 600 and the IIci.  It is slower due to lack of
caching and FPU, but it's got 3 expansions slots as well as an accelerator
slot.  If you find later you need more speed, you can always put in an
accelerator or something.  The article is pretty good and it goes into the
expansion options and the IIci vs 600 debate.  Their bottom line is, and I 
quote,  "The basic Performa 600 offers a lot more for the money than a Macintosh IIci and provides a no-penalties upgrade path.  Whether you use the drive bay to eliminate extra-drive clutter on your desk or to participate in Apple's
vision for the future of CD ROM, the b ay is a nice bit of industrial design.
None of the new hardware is earth-shattering, but the Performa 600 represents
the sum of many good decisions implemented well.  The Performa 600 is going to 
find many happy owners in teh middle of the market theough the middle of the 
1990's."

firenza@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Duane Clark <duane@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: The Micropolis HD?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A701D418E5014D3D@enkidu.jpl.nasa.gov>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20:41:44 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Labs
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:38:44 GMT

In MacUser Mag, MacCenter is advertising a 4.4mS, 385Mbyte hard disk. Are
these numbers for real, and does anyone have any opinions on their
performance and reliability. Also, I've heard the Mac 400Mbyte HD is
fast, but I've not seen any numbers. Anybody with the scoop here?

Thanks,
Duane Clark

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From: ddaly@draper.com (Daniel Cameron Daly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB 100 as SCSI drive with IIcx
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:25:43 GMT
Reply-To: rbc@xp.psych.nyu.edu
Organization: Vision Research Lab


I am attempting to dock my PB 100 to my MacIIcx as an external hard
drive for backing up etc. The PB is setup as SCSI device 1, my
startup drive on the II is device 0 (by default, as it is configured
as the startup drive), and yet for some reason
(after a long delay)
the II attempts to boot from the PB hard drive, which fails as that system
software is configured as "minimal". At any rate, that is not
the behavior I want.

On some occasions it will boot correctly (off the IIcx hard
drive), only to bomb with a
"Finder illegal instruction" error message prior to mounting
the disks on the desktop. Curiously, when I boot up the II from the
Disk Tools disk with the PB attached, the PB disk shows up, but 
not the II's internal drive,
though it is visible to the HD setup program. A hand-held scanner
worked fine on the IIcx SCSI port, so I guess that port is ok.

I'm at Wits End - both computers run System 7.0.1 (no tuneup), the
cabling is correct (including termination between the SCSI system
cable and the PB cable), I turn them on in the right order, and
once it even worked correctly(!). If this occurs because the SCSI ID
number on the IIcx hard drive is lower than that of the PB,
can someone tell me how to change the CX HD number?

Any help would be appreciated.

Ron Cagenello		rbc@xp.psych.nyu.edu
Vision Research Lab
The Lighthouse, NYC

Daniel Cameron Daly
ddaly@draper.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Enough PERFORMAs, what about the IIvx
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:59:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.142254.3325@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>dblackbu@carr11.alleg.edu (David Blackburn) writes:
>
>>So, will there be a IIvx-CD model? Why not? 
>
>    I would assume so. It uses the same case as the P600CD so you can
>certaily buy the new Apple CD300 and install it into the drive bay.
>
>>Or, can I put a NuBus-based FPU and cache into a P600(CD) and get the
>>same? _Is_ there a NuBus cache card or does this require a dedicated
>>slot?
>
>    Well, there is an FPU slot in the P600, so adding an FPU would be
>pretty easy, but the cache problem is another thing. The P600 has an
>accelerator slot, that will support a card with it's own CPU, otherwise
>it probably won't support regualr cache cards because it's not
>configured to. As for a NuBus cache card, DayStar does make a NuBus
>FastCache, but I would suggest putting something like this into the
>accelerator slot, because it will probably be faster than NuBus.

There is no such thing as a DayStar "NuBus FastCache."  NuBus is *WAY*
too slow for any sort of RAM cache.  I think you're referring to the RAM
PowerCard, which is a *disk* cache, not a RAM cache.  You put standard SIMMs 
on a NuBus card, and it acts like a disk drive, except much faster.  It's 
still slow by RAM standards, and it's unbelievably slow by RAM cache 
standards.  Keep in mind that there's about a 5000-fold difference
between the access time of a reasonably-fast disk and the access time of
reasonably-fast RAM.

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PDA's are flop
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:01:39 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Oct7.143127.17301@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
> bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:
> 
> >The computing power of the Newton is supposed to be twice the power of a
> >Quadra 900, with a nice operating system with built-in object oriented
> >databse manager and complete mutitasking with preemption.
> 
>     While the Newton will have a RISC chip, claiming that it is twice
> the power of the Q900 is a bit excessive I think. It will certainly be
> many time more efficient than the 68000, but when comparing it to the
> '040 I wouldn't be so sure.

I think we'll have to wait and see on this one.  The RISC chip that
the Newton will use *isn't* the same as the PowerPC RISC chip that
will be used by the RISC Macs.

The chip used in the Newton was designed specificly for the Newton
(low power and such).  Still even a low power RISC processor shouldn't
have any trouble being twice as fast as a 25MHz 68040 - especially
if they don't do floating point (this takes up a lot of space on the
68040).  They also don't have to worry about any compatability modes
taking up any space on the chip either.

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From: schwarz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: dying laserwriter plus
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:03:37 GMT
Reply-To: schwarz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Our laserwriter plus is not responding and the green "test" light is
flashing. The manual says that this indicates problems with the
internal electronics which would be very bad news. Has anyone had
similar symptoms from a laserwriter plus and did the story have a 
happy ending?

Thanks,
Gerry Schwarz
schwarz@math.brandeis.edu
From: v999sfje@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Markus Wieshofer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: modem
Keywords: cheap
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

hi 

i just bought a lc2 and i need a modem. can anyone tell me were to get a cheap
one? perhaps built-in? mailorder?

thanx markus
From: ssbc+@andrew.cmu.edu (Samuel O. Swett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Help on hard drive purchase wanted
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:02:26 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   I wouldn't use a Syquest as a primary storage device...I do have a
friend who's been using a Bernoulli drive as his primary device (only
storage device, in fact) for about 1.5 years. It's a bit load sometimes,
but he lives with it. I've never really liked the idea myself, though.
Always thought removables were better off as backup devices. I'd go for
a fixed drive if I were you.

-sam, who doesn't have a mile-long signature file.
From: osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB 100 in New York City !!Urgent!!
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:48:05 MET
Reply-To: osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

My parents are going to stay in NY City and I desparetly
want  to have a PB 100 or a PB 145. And because of the very
low US prices compared to germany I do not care if it is
with an american keyboard. But I have a few questions:

1. Is it true that you can work with the PB power pack on
every line? In germany we have 220 V.

3. What are the actual prices? In the last TidBITS listing I
mist the PBs ...

2. What is the cheapest store in NY and where is it? 

Thanks in advance

Oliver

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From: wrowe@reed.edu (Wayne S. Rowe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Monitor recommendations?
Date: 11 Oct 92 04:13:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct11.041301.2686
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

I'm planning on buying a IIvx come October 19, but would like to get something
bigger (or at least better) than Apple's ole 13" RGB. Any suggestions? Will
the new Performa Plus display (14" right?) work with a vx?

wrowe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac VX Chaos
From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:34:02 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware

wrowe@reed.edu (Wayne S. Rowe) writes:

>I'm interested in possibly purchasing one of the new Mac VX's, which I hope will
>soon be appearing on Oct. 19, but am awash in rumors... As it stands now, I have
>gathered the following data on suggested retail prices:

>IIsi     -     $2999 (5/80)
>Mac VI   -     $2700 (4/80)
>Mac VX   -     $2777 (4/80)

>I find this hard to believe since the VX would then be cheaper than the IIsi,
>which I have heard will still be continued rather than retired. What have others
>heard price-wise, because I suspect the VX will in fact be more expensive than
>$2777, probably more in the IIci range (by the way what is the IIci range?).
>Help! Any information/rumours would be greatly appreciated.

Those prices (except for the price of the IIvi) sound correct, since the
Performa 600 (basically a IIvx without the math coprocessor or cache) will
be selling for under $2500.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cfrousak@arnold.Princeton.EDU (Christos Frouzakis)
Subject: Problems with Supra V32.bis faxmodem
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:40:36 GMT

i recently bought a supra v32.bis faxmodem, which i'm
trying ot use with my mac se. so far i haven't manage 
to make it behave the way it's supposed to.
the fax software sometimes has trouble recognizing the
modem (it complains that there is an error in updating
the settings and asks to check the connections) and 
when it does connect it starts processing the file but
does not dial out and fax it.
with the modem part i have managed to connect at 9600
a couple of times, but i don't see anything on the screen
after the connectin (turning local echo on and off didn't
help).

any kind soul out there with suggestions?

-x.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: nadeem@wam.umd.edu (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Performa 200 or Classic II???
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:58:33 GMT


What are the advantages/disadvantages of going with a Performa 200
rather than a Classic II?

I would appreciate some help.

Thanks


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,sci.image.processing
From: aroest@fwi.uva.nl (Axello de Roestello)
Subject:  Frame-grabber: Rasterops 24MxTV or VideoSpigot?
Keywords: Frame grabber
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:34:01 GMT

Hi all,
I am looking for a video frame grabber for the Macintosh to digitise video 
frames.
The purpose is to sample one frame every minute or so from very boring 
scientific video tapes. It's boring because the time-lapse of interesting events
is in the order of hours. I want to make a Quicktime movie of the tapes to 
compress say three hours of video into 3 minutes of Quicktime movie. The movies 
will be small format, 256x256. The card should be able however to grab one frame
of full-video in real time, we want to get final pictures of 512x512 pixels.

I tested 2 digitiser cards, the VideoLogic DVA-4000 and the RasterOps 24MxTV.
The Videologic has features we don't especially need and costs in the 
Netherlands Df 7800,- (US$ 4800). It does have a hypercard xcmd stack, so 
programming whatever you want to do is a doddle. The card is capable of over-
laying the computer screen with input video in various intensities, but we
don't need that feature.  
I also tested the RasterOps 24MxTV. All the software I need is included with
the card, i.e. a program to grab a frame every minute and put that into a 
quicktime movie. The RasterOps also has quickdraw acceleration (600%) and 24bit
color capability. The card costs Df 5400,- (US$ 3400).

I was unable to get a demonstration of the low cost Video-Spigots. I know that
they are capable of quickly sampling small frames of video, but some questions 
are left unanswered:
 - How is the software that is delivered with the card? Is it possible to grab
   full video frames every 60 seconds instead of a couple of frames per second?
 - What is the quality of the input synchronisation circuits? (Our tapes are 
   sometimes pretty bad)
 - Is the Video-Spigot only a frame grabber or also a video display card?
 - Does it slow down the computer? (a MacIIci is slow when using on-board 
   video), so the RasterOps would increase the speed of my Mac considerably.
 
At the moment I consider buying the RasterOps, also because it has the 
capability to output Macintosh screens to a normal video recorder. 
 
If someone on the net could answer some of my questions, I'll send him/her
a digitised picture of the CPF experiment in the IML-1 Space Shuttle mission.
 (I told you it was boring, didn't I?)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Axel
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From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Duo's, new port...
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:35:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: nick@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


People:

  The latest MacWeek (10.12.92) describes the Duo 230 as having "built
in microphone and speaker, a serial port, a post for connecting an
optional internal modem to a phone line, and a 152 pin 32 bit bus for
connecting to docks."  I assume the modem port is a RJ-11, but what is
the "serial port?"  A scsii?  It seems that the machine, with no modem/
printer port for appletalk or disk drive is totally isolated from 
input, other than keyboard and modem, without the dock.  If this is
a scsii port though, it would allow for attached external modems or
machine to machine connection... can anyone confirm/denie that this
new port is a scsii interface?

                                    -- Nick


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins)
Subject: Re: PowerBook's and Large Monitors
Keywords: powerbook,display,monitor
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:45:25 GMT

rfl@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Bob Loewenstein) sayz:
>
>I have a friend with a Powerbook 100, 6 Mbytes of Ram. He notices
>that the system takes up over 3 Mbytes and wonders what is going on.
>Shouldn't the system take up more like half that amount? He has
>no inits or cdevs installed, no special fonts, etc...just a bare bones
>system. Anyone know the answer? Thanks.

Sorry about that.  I mean the MEMORY control panel, NOT the monitor one.

++jerry(); // jscoggin@netcom.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lamont@dcl-nxt15 (Brad Lamont)
Subject: Re: 25 mhz IIsi followups...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:10:47 GMT

cfejm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (John Miller) writes:


>The idea, of course, was intriguing.  Not of a daring soul, however, I'm
>waiting for successful reports (or horror stories). 

>Have others done the modification?  Was it successful?

>Thanks,

>John

I would do the modification if I could find a supplier of 50 MHz crystals
in the Chicago area.  Radio Shack doesn't carry them :-(

Anybody heave any ideas where to order ?

Brad
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hal@cs.cornell.edu (Hal Perkins)
Subject: DeskWriter C -> 550 C upgrade possible?
Summary: Will there be a DeskWriter C to DeskWriter 550 C upgrade?
Keywords: DeskWriter,printers
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:26:44 GMT

Does anybody know (i.e. heard a rumor) if it will be possible to
upgrade a DeskWriter C to the newly announced 4-color DeskWriter 550C?
I'm mainly interested in the 4-color printing, since the lack of true
black on color pages is the one shortcoming of the original DW C that
I've run up against.

I called HP's sales & information line and asked if they would offer
an upgrade.  The initial answer was "not at this time".  When I asked
if something was planned in the future I got the usual we-can't-talk-
about-future-plans response.  Anybody heard anything more specific?

Hal Perkins			hal@cs.cornell.edu
Cornell CS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ddaly@draper.com (Daniel Cameron Daly)
Subject: Using PB100 as SCSI drive
Reply-To: ddaly@draper.com (Daniel Cameron Daly)
Organization: CS Draper Lab
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:59:42 GMT

I am trying to use my PB100 as an external hard drive for a Mac SE and have
had some difficulties.  The system is a Mac SE with Radius accelerator, and a
45 MB Rodime external hard drive (the SE only has two floppy drives) connected
as external SCSI 0. Connection path for SCSI:
Mac
Mac-to-SCSI device cable
Rodime drive
SCSI peripheral cable
terminator
SCSI-to-PB SCSI port adaptor cable
PB

I have the PB configured as SCSI 1, and the SCSI insignia comes out without 
any difficulties.  When I try to boot the SE (from full shutdown, of course)
it gives me an error about minimal software has been configured and I need
to reconfigure it.  It sounds like the system is trying to get the PB
system, which is minimally configured, instead of the system which is on the 
normal external hard drive.  Has anybody run into a similar problem?
Any help would be appreciated.




Daniel Cameron Daly
ddaly@draper.com
"He who fights and runs away, lives to nuke the site from orbit"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Gregory Talmo)
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:59:37 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <louislam.718560550@vincent2.iastate.edu>, louislam@iastate.edu
(Louis C Lam) wrote:
> 
> In <17990014@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten) writes:
> 
> >>	I was just looking through some issues of MacWorld magazine and
> >>I ran across an interesting Powerbook ad.  If you have access to the
> >>July 92 issue (the one with the Quadra 950 on the cover) look at the
> >>apple ad on page 88.  Is that Steve Wozniak (sp?) holding a powerbook? -
> >>it sure looks like him!
> >>
> 
> >Yes, and that is his real son sitting next to him.  Around the South
> >Bay, we were treated to billboard-size renditions...
> 
> Sorry for my ignorance, but who's this Steve Wozniak?

 Steve Wozniak was one of the co-founders of Apple Computer in the late
70's.

- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bill@lhotse.ucar.edu ()
Subject: Photo-compatible CD ROM drives... what it it?
Reply-To: bill@lhotse.ucar.edu ()
Organization: High Altitude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:03:06 GMT

Can some kind cybersoul fill me in on this photo CD ROM thing?

--Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware