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From: uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Andrew Krenz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Many a questions concerning the Gravis
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:37:17 GMT

I'm sure this info. is in a FAQ somewhere but I guess I'm lazy.  Anyway, 
here goes:

1.)  Is the GUS *completely* compatible with the Adlib and Soundblaster?
     What about the SB Pro?

2.)  Say I'm into messing around with .MOD files.  Is there a Modplayer
     and/or editor which allows the playback of a .MOD in stereo?

3.)  What type of support can I expect for the GUS concerning Windows 3.1
     and OS/2 2.0?

4.)  Lastly, say I want to go out and buy a Gravis RIGHT NOW.  Where do 
     they sell them and how much are they?  Would a place like CompUSA
     or Egghead carry it?

I'm sick of having to deal with a gayish Adlib card.  Time to move up to
something fancier.  Thanks,

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From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: .CMF to .MID convertor
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:19:10 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, St Quentin en Yvelines, France
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kjohnson@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Kurt Edward Johnson) writes:
: In article <92308.211441GKS101@psuvm.psu.edu> Greg Spath <GKS101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
: >I would be interested in this too.
: 
: Me three.

    :-)

I have written one last year. Write me if you want a copy.
-- 
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Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 16:45:12 EST
From: Rich Mueller <3CMUD6L@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: SB plays very slow running in Windows

If I understand you correctly, you are playing a module player in dos while run
ning windows aps, if this is the case and you are running on a 386 or bettter t
hen go to the icon of the dos ap and bring up the control window for it.
Then select settings and raise the background priority rate to higher than 70 o
r 80, (just a guess) then close the menu and pull up the windows control
panel and use the 386 enhanced icon  to reset the priority levels of
forgound apps = to background apps.

hope this helps.                         Rich
                                       3cmud6l@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
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From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Robert Hayden)
Subject: Re: ROL -> MID
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:17:55 GMT

Kwan-Yong Lee <kl2i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Hi.  
>    Basically what I want to do is to be able to play *.ROL files in
>win3.1 as a background task.  I have thought about two ways:

>1.  Get a ROL->MID converter.
>2.  Get a win3.1 Jukebox program that supports *.ROL

I am currently using the FMDemo program in Win 3.1 for my 3+ megs of ROL
files.  You can get this on ftp.cica.indiana.edu (i'm not sure of the
directory though, pub/pc/win3/demos, /sounds, or /util and it included an
FM driver for windows 3.1


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From: timkwan@athena.mit.edu (Unknown)
Subject: Sound file formats
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:19:28 GMT


Can someone please come up with a list of ALL the different sound
files: .MID, .WAV, .MOD, etc. describing what machines use them, what
software supports them, what formats can be converted to what other
formats and with which converter programs, relative file sizes for
some arbitrary song, the actual format description (header, sound
data, etc.) and any other distinguishing features.  I will be getting
my GUS shortly (according to Disk-Count).  I want to learn as much as
possible about the different sound files before it arrives.

-Tim
From: burch@rhps.chi.il.us (Lee Burch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SB pro will not shutup, problem with 2-4 voice music
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 02:05:40 CST
Organization: CrissySoft Incorporated

   I bought a SB pro, and I have tried the following things to
try to get it to work

   tried each I/O address

   tried all IRQs with every card but HD and video removed

   tried each DMA channel

   tried shared and non-shared DMA

   disabled external cache (on a 486-33)

   turned bus speed to all possible settings

BTW configuration as tested:

   486-33 256K cache with 8 meg
   single IDE drive
   t4000 video card with sierra hicolor RAMDAC

   anyone have any ideas on what this could possibly be?!!?!!

-- Lee Burch


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From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Subject: SB Pro and Win 3.1
Organization: Saint Mary's University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:29:40 GMT

I am trying to get my Sb Pro working with Win 3.1. It seems to work fine 
with my system sounds but when I try to use the jukebox prog which came with 
SB Pro nothing comes out of the speakers although it says playing. I have 
looked at the readme file and it looks like I have all of my INI files setup 
ok.


Any Ideas.


Gjames
From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS SB emulation
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:05:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov11.230556.16882
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Nov11.143556.13930@walter.cray.com> dpp@cray.com writes:
>
>There was some discussion a while back about people having trouble with
>the Sound Blaster emulation on the GUS (weak sound, or sound not as good
>as other boards such as PAS with hardware SB emulation, etc).  Is this
>still the case?  I'm in the market for a sound card, to be used mostly
>for games but not exclusively.  Can some of you GUS owners comment on
>how good (or bad) the GUS sounds on games or other software that uses
>the SB emulation?

I won't get mine till friday, but I've followed everything that's come
across the net since about May or June.

First of all, there are two games the Gravis reports is will not work
with.  I don't remember the titles, but someone should know.

Second, from what I understand, the GUS will never sound like a SB.  It
produces sound in a totally different manner.  Now depending on who you
talk to and what games they use with it, you will hear anything from "It
sucks" to "It's way better than the SB".  It seams it's all a matter of
personal choice.  Since it's my first soundcard though, I'm sure it'll
sound MUCH better than what I'm used to. :-)

As for something like the PAS with hardware emulation, it will perform
better and give a truer emulation.  However it only emulates (from what I
understand) the SB not the SB Pro.  And since it's in hardware, that's the
end of the story.  The GUS, while not perfect, has software emulation and
will hopefully have a SB Pro driver before long.  And any problems it's
having now, can easily be fixed with new versions of the driver.

That's all I really know till friday.

-- 
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harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."
              -- Me     |                                    -- Rush
From: levenson@romulus.rutgers.edu (Joel Levenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: When is the SB16 being released?
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:05:21 GMT
Organization: Mass Spectroscopy Support Facility @ CAFT

Does anyone know the answer to this question?  There is a computer
show this weekend and I was hoping that it might be there (I didn't
see it almost a month ago).

Thanks in advance.

Joel

P.S.  Could someone please send me a copy of any know specs on the
SB16 too?  Thanks again.
From: jnicholson@bowker.com (Jim Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Help for MOD files
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 22:29:38 EST
Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ

marvil@lysator.liu.se (Martin Vilcans) writes:
> 
> Most, or should I say _all_, MOD-files are created on Amigas using some
> SoundTracker clone (where ProTracker is the most usual one). I've heard
> about a MOD editor for PC called ScreamTracker by some finish guy, but I'm
> not really sure that it exists. But if you really want to play with music
> modules, you'd better get an Amiga.
> 

No, you shouldn't.  We just finished contract work on a major game written 
for the IBM platform.  It uses digital sound throughout; All of the music in 
the game was written on a PC, using ModEdit.  There are, in fact, several 
programs that allow PC users to assemble MOD files (as I'm sure someone will 
already have noted.)
 
(no offense intended, btw... just be careful with words like "all", "every" 
"none" and "never" - they tend to bite back on occasion ;)
 

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From: ST32373@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: isney Sound Source tech info
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:18:58 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University

If you have noticed on Modplay, both the Disney sound source and the DAC on LPT
1 options in the 'change output device' (c) menu work EXACTLY the same. Both wo
rk with the all-resistor DAC I built. No sound difference either. So evidently
the DineySS works the same as an allresitor Dac. As for 'recognizing' the
SS, I guess it may only SEE LPT1 as present, since Modplay highlights the DAC,
,SS, and my soundblaster. So at least to Modplay, the SS and the resistor DAC
are the same. If you have a question, write me at:rcb@engr.latech.edu
Hope this helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: dball@hp8c.nrl.navy.mil (David Ball)
Subject: DAK/BSR Soundboard Info?
Keywords: DAK BSR
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:25:06 GMT

Does anyone know anything about this besides what's in the catalog?  Does
the SB emulation work?  Sound Quality?  I haven't seen any posts about
this board.

  -- Dave

Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard:3571 comp.music:5114 alt.binaries.sounds.d:2050 alt.sb.programmer:427 comp.sys.amiga.audio:3862 comp.sys.ibm.pc:823
From: norlin@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.music,alt.binaries.sounds.d,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.audio,comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Piano roll -> sheet music (was Re: MODEDIT 3.0 now available)
Keywords: MODEDIT 3.0, MOD editor, IBM, module, smus2tex, piano roll
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:37:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.1992Nov9.013736.22570
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:

>In article <1992Nov8.094411.3153@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>,
>norlin@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin) writes:
>> ModEdit 3.0 is completed.  It is currently available on:

>  Sounds great, but since my last comment on this was ignored I'm asking again. 
>While I would like to write the music on a PC, I am looking for something that,
>once the writing is done, can be read by a human.

>  Does anyone know of a program that takes the output of any of these piano-roll
>editors and print it in staff notation?

This is, unfortunately, a non-trivial task (I bet you guessed that!).
Do you want the transformation to be just one way, or two-way?  That is,
do you want to be able to _enter_ music in staff notation and print it
in staff notation, or enter it in "piano roll" format and eventually,
once finished, print it in staff notation?

The former is impractical (at least for MOD editors) because staff-based
note entry simply can't express the parameters necessary for computer
reproduction of music.

The latter is possible but difficult, because no uniform mapping of
"piano-roll-note-length" (which is more or less absolute) to a standard
musical note (which is more or less relative) exists; also, determination
of key, modulation, to bar or not to bar notes, etc, is extremely
difficult (I would say impossible without human guidance), since musical
notation is a language in and of itself, and notation helps show musical
structure which is not directly derivable from raw notes and durations.

Nevertheless, there exists a package called "smus2tex" which converts
.SMUS files (on the Amiga, which are also piano-roll type files) into a
tex representation of a musical staff.  I have not used nor closely looked
at the program, but the author (his name escapes me) informed me that
much of the logic of converting "piano-roll" type music to sheet
music exists in that program.  Perhaps the author could step forward and
inject a few comments.

If you're ambitious, you may want to have a look at the program yourself
and attempt to write a "mod2tex" or similar utility.  I eventually may
get around to it, but with schoolwork and all, it will be some time.

Norman Lin
norlin@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ilan@seas.gwu.edu (Ilan Berkner)
Subject: Re: SB microchanel driver for windows
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:05:47 GMT

In article <83060@ut-emx.uucp> coleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A. Coleman) writes:
>	Like hell there isn't.  I have a SB PRO MCV.  Well at least until 
>Saturday when I leave the PS/2 world forever, courtesy of Gateway 2000
>Airlines.  You can get the SB MCV or SB PRO MCV drivers from the Creative
>Labs BBS.  Beware of Microchannel Bus Timeouts!

Really?  I'll check out the BBS later.  BTW, what are you doing with your
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero)
Subject: Fax # for EA and Canadian mail order companies
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:14:52 GMT

I need a non-800 FAX number for Electronic Arts and some Canadian
mail order companies that carry Ultrasound. As soon as possible, please...

--
Lasse Hero  -  larry@mits.mdata.fi
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From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson)
Subject: Re: The GUS and software...
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:35:47 GMT

Kevin Wengcheong Cheng <kc3b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>OK, so everyone's chattering great things about the GUS's potential.
>But noone has said anything about software support for it right now
>and in the near future...
>Could someone point out which companies ( ie games ) are supporting the
>card and if/when/how much a developer's kit will be available?!?

Electronic Arts is supporting the GUS although there are rumours
that they are upset with Gravis' on-again off-again delivery schedule.
Whether this will affect future support is unclear.  I have written
to several developers asking for support as have others on the GUS
mailing list.

As far as I know however, EA is the only game developer that has
publicly committed to supporting the GUS.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: sclyy@wam.umd.edu (Chih-Lung Sung)
Subject: Help wanted-- MQX-32M
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:55:28 GMT

Hi, 

I just got a MQX-32M. I also have a SoundBlaster card on my 486. 
SB is set to address 220 & IRQ 7. MQX-32M is et to address 300
& IRQ 7. I have questiones as following:

1) Can they both coexist on the same system?
2) Can I use MQX-32M under Windows 3.1? If yes, where can I get the driver?
or which driver should I use from Windows 3.1 diskette?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Chih-Lung Sung

sclyy@wam.umd.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN)
Subject: Mitsumi CDROM and PAS-16
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:01:00 GMT


I know that the Mitsumi is a cheaply priced, slow CDROM, but I was thinking
about picking one up just to play with.. Does anyone know how I can hook this
drive up to the PAS-16? Thanks in advance...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: The GUS and software...
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:18:32 GMT

Well, the first two games that will appear with UltraSound
support will be Chuck Yeager's Air Combat Flight simulator
2.0 and Star Control 2.  Electronic Arts is going to be the
main pusher and because of it's recent merger with origin
look for support from them as well.
From: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re:  PAS 16 SCSI
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:02:58 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Organization: N.I.S.T
Posting-Front-End: Shinbun -- the OpenLook newsreader



I have a 327MB External SCSI Hard Drive connected to my PAS 16.  The drivers cost
$60 but they installed easily and worked the first time.  The driver will allow
up to 4 partitions but I don't think there was a maximum size / partition (but
then again I could be wrong).  The transfer rate is a little slow (about 690KB/Sec),
and you can't boot from these drives because of the lack of ROM.  It works great
for what I needed it for (extra disk space for games and such).  If you need something
fast and bootable you'd probably want to buy a SCSI Controller with ROM, otherwise
I'd say it was worth the $60 for the drivers.
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From: tim@math.uakron.edu (Timothy Smith)
Subject: GUS or PAS16 with high bus speed
Organization: The University of Akron, Akron, Ohio
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:59:38 GMT


Greetings,

   I am looking to upgrade my sound blaster to a new sound
card.  But since I run my bus at 13.35mhz instead of 8mhz
and that I have heard that the PAS16 bombs that any speed
higher than 8mhz, Im wondering if anyone has been able to
run a PAS16 at a higher bus rate...  Also has anyone run
the Gravis Ultra Sound at a higher bus rate than 8mhz.


                             thanks.. tim
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From: cmb@bluemoon.use.com (Chris Bugosh)
Subject: Re: MULTISOUND - Anyone got TurtleBeach's compuserve number???
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 15:36:59 EST

rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee) writes:

> Wonder if anyone could help me with that???

Don't have their user id, but "GO MULTIV" will take you to the
multi-media forum which they are a part of.

Chris

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From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Subject: Midi Hum   *** Please Help ***
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:14:55 GMT

I just got a MIDI mate for my PAS 16.  Before my PAS 16 I had a Sound 
Blaster Pro.  I am having the same problem with my PAS that I had with
my Blaster.  I hope someone out there can help me out.

When I run midi into my keyboard, a Casio FZ-1 (don't let the name fool
you, this is a great keyboard!) it will playback fine.  But, when I    
attempt to run midi out of the keyboard I get this loud humming sound.
The PAS will still record midi from the board, and the sound doesn't 
affect anything, but it is still pretty annoying.  Once I've finished
recording midi, I usually just unplug the midi out cord from my keyboard
to get rid of the noise.  Anyone know where the hell this sound is coming
from.  I had the same exact problem (same noise too) with my Blaster.

PLEASE HELP!!!!

Thanx in adavance.
From: tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Tom Salzmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: SBPRO Windows Drivers
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 22:35:11 EST
Organization: SalzoBoard BBS

williams_g@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

> has anyone out there seen new sbpro drivers for windows, that lets you use
> the sound blaster pro under a dos window (or full screen). As the release
> i got a long time ago, wont let you use it or adlib un the dos windows..

This is terrible!  I just ordered the SBPRO card.  Are you saying that I
won't be able to use my NON-windows games in DOS boxes?  Windows won't let
the games talk to the card???  Gosh... simply terrible.  Is it really this
bad?

--
Tom Salzmann <tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US>
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS-16 Hissssssssssssssss!
Keywords: PAS-16
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:19:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov11.061954.20825
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York

In article <lg02nbINNgmg@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> diamond@forever.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>However, now that the card is installed I have a different problem:
>hiss.  I hooked a pair of "digital" Sony headphones to the PAS-16
>output jack, and as soon as the MVSOUND device driver loads, I get a
>lot of hiss on both channels, even with no audio source.  When I play
>something, say a selection from Multimedia Beethoven, the hiss is less
>noticeable, but still very much present.  Also, if I plug the
>headphones directly into the CDROM drive, hiss is still present, although
>perhaps not as much.
>
>I don't get this amount of hiss from an audio CD drive, is this normal
>for a CDROM system or is there something I can try to reduce it?
>
>--Steve Diamond
>SunSoft, Inc., 2550 Garcia Ave, M/S MTV08-221, Mountain View, CA 94043
>uucp: steve.diamond@Eng.Sun.COM              The opinions expressed are my own.

Try lowering the master volume, reducing the volume on unused channels, and
raising the volume on the desired channels.  The DOS mixer is accessed by
typing "PAS *".

If you turn the volume up near maximum on your home stereo with a very-low
source, you will hear hiss also.  The hiss is noise in the amplification
stages.

The basic rule to follow is to run the input sources almost as high as you can
without distortion.  On the PAS, this means somewhere between 75 and 100%.
The default is 88%.  Unused sources should be at 0%.  The master volume
on my setup drives a couple of 8 ohm SPEAKERS with no perceptible hiss, and
the master (output) volume at around 50%.  Why don't you just plug your
headphones into the CD-player?  You will *certainly* get better sound that
way!

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