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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: "Concept Theft:" B5 v DS9 and Roddenberry (Re: BABYLON 5 vs ST:DSN)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:59:47 GMT

For those people who are curious, there was also an article in
Entertainment Weekly, whci compared the similarities between the two
shows. I haven't been following it a great deal, but I have to admit
they are quite striking.

the article goes on to say that the original idea for Babylon 5 was
brought to Paramount, who turned it down. The reason? They were afraid
that it would conflict with their Star Trek merchandising. I guess they
aren't worried anymore.

After reading the artcle (dated November 13th, btw) I would be
suspicious of ST:DS9. Especially after they lined up the two series and
compared them. The similarities are just too striking.

-Craig


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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: QL: "Trilogy Part 1": observations
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 02:13:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.044338.18257@midway.uchicago.edu>, rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong) writes:
>*SPOILERS* for "Trilogy Part 1" below...

>
>About the ending (pre-leap-out): So, Abigail's father still dies in
>the fire? Yeah, it made for a *lot* of tension in those last few
>minutes, but I couldn't help feeling sorry for the man. One second,
>he's in the Waiting Room, the next he's meeting a fiery death. Did
>he ever have time to realize that his daughter had been saved?
>Quick and painless maybe, but in the original history at least he'd
>died *knowing* at least he'd tried to save his daughter. Now, it
>seems he probably dies without ever even knowing what for.

AARRGGHH! Good point, although if he could have made a knowing choice
he would have chosen the daughter to live.

>
>What *I* wanted to see was Al's reaction just after Sam leaped.
>Assuming that Sam didn't leap instantaneously into Will, and
>assuming that Al "appeared back" in the IC after Sam leaped
>out (since there is no longer a brainwave connection), would the
>technology at PQL allow them to tell whether Sam survived
>that last leap or not? Even if the leapee did return to his own
>time, could Sam have leaped out too late and *still* not have made
>it? Obviously *we* know the answer to that one, but would the PQL
>staff know? At least Al wouldn't; not in those first few moments
>after the leap-out at the very least...

Not then, but before he was in the imaging chamber again, they'd
find someone in the waiting room. I don't think we'll see much of
a "he's alive!" scene, too much to do, and Al knows how to put
1st things 1st, like making sure Sam survives THIS leap.

>
>I liked this first part, in general; it was intense, gripping, and
>thoroughly unpredictable (but seeming to actually *lead* somewhere,
>as each new plot point was introduced); as a set-up, it's
>effective. It's slightly too much on the creepy side for my taste,
>but that's just personal, and in no way detracts from it being a
>good story.

I LIKE creepy. Probably rather more than I'd rather admit to.
From: RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: highlander songs
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:25:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92321.172549RHK106
 <BxsnH3.91v@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

About the highlander soundtrack:

Hollywood Records who I think has the Queen Records Deal now released the A
Kind of Magic CD about half a year ago.  I see the CDs still on sale at the
records store here in State College, PA.
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From: swardwel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Stephanie  Wardwell)
Subject: Otherworld
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 21:12:38 GMT


Yes, that program was called Otherworld, and it was a great show.  Where
else can you see kids making a fortune reintroducing the Beatles?

And better news yet.  It's one of the upcoming Series Collection series on
the Sci-Fi channel.  The con rep didn't say when, but definitely in the
future, along with Manimal and Probe (okay, who remembers *that* one?)

Steph
swardwel@mail.sas.upenn.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:49:20 EST
From: <MRM122@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: DELIVER US FROM EVIL (AND SPOILERS!)
 <BxxLCp.3A6@world.std.com>

First, they DID mention Alia in the last scene, and second can't Connie just
go visit her sister?  Don't you ever visit your sister?  I know I do.


                                            Marshall R. Maresca
From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Meg Foster
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:28:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
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In a previous article, finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) says:

>I got from the discussion around here that Meg Foster played Laura,
>Abigail's mother.  Who is Meg Foster, though?  Where have I seen her
>before (I know I've seen those eyes somewhere before)?  What seems
>to be so special about her?
>
>Any help is appreciated...

She played Hester Pryne (sp?) in a version of the Scarlet Letter
and was great.  I've seen her in a couple of other things too, and
the only reason I remember her is those eyes.  Down right spooky.

 
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: The Musical Collection
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:20:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxxKM2.4MA
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

You know, I HAVE the old theme on CD.  It's on one of those TV Themesong
collections.  It also has (I mena, I have two of these I bought in Madrid, 
with different tv themes on each, so I shoudl say They have) Airwolf,
Doogie Howser,  Battlestar Gallectica, Thirtysomething, and a ton of other
stuff, like Buck Rogers (I just KNOW you were all lookng for that one....)

I bought the one for the QL theme, and the otehr for the Remington Steele
and Airwolf themes.


bye


LJC
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From: u926135@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Adrian Hassall Lewis)
Subject: Re: day of the triffids?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:43:27 GMT

rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Brooks) writes:

>In article <92318.170636IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
>writes:
>> 
>> In one of my late night PBS viewing binges I caught the middle
>> of "Day of the Triffid's" - Does anyone know if it has ever come
>> out on video? - From what I remember, the film (undoubtedly BBC)
>> seemed to end in an incomplete manner. Does my memory do me wrong?
>> 
>> 
>> S.E. Warner
>> 
>You're right, the film did end inconclusively with the main male character
>(his name escapes me now) saying how one day the world would be free of the
>scourge of the Triffids, etc.  This was done because Wyndham's book ends in
>the same way and if my memory serves me correctly the film did a pretty
>good job of following the plot of the book.  Not sure about its
>availability on video however.  I'd be very interested to know the answer
>to this too.

>Rob (rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu)

As a side note - If you ever get the chance compare the BBC mini-series of
DotT (which is faithful to the book) and the (?) American film version made
in the 1960's.  It is one of the worst film versions of a book I've ever seen,
basically because whoever made it had no appreciation of what John Whyndham
was getting at, and changed the story (especially the ending) drastically.

ajax

ps: I don't think so but the American version may have had a different title.


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From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL: One Little Heart--The Real Ending
Date: 18 Nov 1992 02:19:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



This contains major SPOILERS!  Do not read further if you don't
want ot know how it originally ended which is in, my most
humbled opinion, is a lot better than what happened at the 
end of the episode tonight.  It was too abrupt.

Script dated Sept. 8 1992



starts right after Abigail gets out of the window.

INT. UPSTAIRS FULLER HOUSE - ON SAM

He shatters the rest of the glass, making the window big
enough for him to get out.  Just as he's about to go, he
turns and sees...

SAM'S POV - LAURA AND AL - SFX

She stands at the other end of the hall just behind Al. The
flames are all around her.

		OBSERVER'S VOICE
	Sam!  What are you doing?  Get
	outta here!

ON SAM

He is mesmerized. He wants to know if she is real or a 
vision.  He steps toward her.

ON AL

He looks from Sam to the direction of the gaze.

AL'S POV

An empty, burning hallway.  No Laura.

		OBSERVER'S VOICE
	What are you doing, Sam.  Get out!

NEW ANGLE ON SAM AND AL

It's only Al's words that bring him back to the grave
reality of where he is.  Sam shakes himself and turns
grabbing for the window just as a huge beam crashes down on
him.  Pinning him.  He is alive but can't get up.  Al races
into frame.

		OBSERVER
	Sam!  Get up!

		SAM
	    (straining)
	It's too heavy. Al!

Again his gaze goes toward Laura.

SAM'S POV - LAURA

She is there.  She stares at him for a second more.  There
is a calm grace in her as she turns and steps into the
master bedroom, disappearing into a wall of fire.

		OBSERVER'S VOICE
	Move it, Sam!  Push it off!

ON SAM

He immediately starts to struggle.  The ceiling begins to
crash down around him.

		OBSERVER
	This can't be happening.

		SAM
	Al!  I can't get up!

FEATURING AL - SFX

He reaches down, desperately trying to help his friend.  His
hands pass through the wood.  Sam pushes at the heavy beam.
It is immovable.

		OBSERVER
	No!  No!
	     (calling)
	Ziggy!  Gooshie!  Do something.
	     (beat)
	What do you mean there's nothing
	we can do!  Get him the hell out
	of here.

		SAM
	    (screaming)
	AL!

Sam's final scream echos in a whirl of Quantum light as he
is engulfed in the cool blue  The screen whites, and we....

					QUANTUM LEAP

					FADE OUT

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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Batman Animated Series
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:59:07 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <01GR3VTI44KS9JEZA9@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> CDOMS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU  
writes:
> I have been enjoying the animated Batman series.  I have been  
impressed
> with their animatation (for a tv show) as well as direction and the 
> quality of actors they have used for the voices.
> 
> I actually find alot of the scripts and story lines better than  
most
> live action dramas I have seen on tv lately.  So what are some of
> other folks favorite episodes so far?
> 

I think Batman in a sense may be a lot like Ghostbusters: the movies
spawned animated TV series that were better than the movies. Let's 
just hope that Batman doesn't suffer the same fate as Ghostbusters:
the cartoon series was good for perhaps its first two years, then
they decided to make it appeal to younger kids, emphasized the
character of slimer, made it less scary, etc.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
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From: ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski)
Subject: Re: QL Episode Guide Update
Summary: DoS? I hate that name
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Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:36:16 GMT


In article <hby1w9k@rpi.edu> dzembj@rpi.edu writes:
>The episode guide update for Trilogy, Part I (aka One Little Heart) is about
>to be posted to ratv.  
>
BTW, I mentioned that I heard this name in a previous post, but wasn't
sure from where.  Does anyone know exactly when part 1 was given this
name, and why it wasn't in the credits?

>And, just for the record, the only people who refer to the triolgy as 
>Daughter of Sin are the braindead people NBC stuck in their promo department
>for lack of a better place to put them.  Don't be fooled.  Despite it's
>rather simplistic connotations, "Trilogy" is the title of the trilogy.
>The episode guide will contain the alternate titles of each part (namely:
>"One Little Heart"  (Part I), "For Your Love"  (Part II), and "The Last Door"
>(Part III)).
>
>						- Jason
>						(net.chronologer)

I really, really *hate* the name "Daughter of Sin" (I assume this refers
to the entire Trilogy).  As soon as I heard it I thought, "Oh boy, what
has the network done now?!?".  This moniker tends to cheapen what looks
to be quite an interesting story.  Sounds like a cheap Danielle Steele/
Judith Krantz - type "novel".

My $.02

-mtr

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From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith)
Subject: BABYLON 5 vs ST:DSN (the prequel)!
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:46:18 GMT

     I was slightly amused by this article which appeared in the Toronto Star
last week (originally from Entertainment Weekly):

                 COSMIC COINCIDENCE IN TV SERIES

     LOS ANGELES - In 1988 says TV writer and producer Joe Straczynski he
pitched Paramount a science fiction TV series set aboard a deep-space station.
Paramount eventually nixed the treatment, according to Straczaynski, because
the series might conflict with its perennially lucrative franchise, STAR TREK.
He then walked his material over to Warner Bros' new TV consortium, which
promptly commisioned a pilot, titled BABYLON 5.
     But even before Babylon's first 2-hour segment went into the can last
month, Babylonians were buzzing about their show's many similarities to
Paramount's new STAR TREK:DEEP SPACE NINE, which was reportedly pitched to
then-Paramount chief Brandon Tartikoff in January 1992. While Paramount has no
comment on either show, both will debut in 1993, and the similarities are
striking. Consider the following:

1. BABYLON 5 is a humongous space station posed near a hyperspace "jump point"
providing a shortcut to far-off worlds. ST:DSN is a humongous space station 
poised near a "wormhole" providing a shortcut to far-off worlds.

2. B5 is a watering hole for assorted smugglers, thieves, hookers, and rogues,
the set of which features a bar, a casino and a bazaar. ST:DSN is a watering
hole for assorted smugglers, thieves, hookers, and rogues, the set of which 
features a bar, a casino and a promenade.

3. B5 is populated by humans and assorted aliens who can barely stand each 
other. ST:DSN is populated by humans and assorted aliens who can barely stand
each other.

4. B5 is run by Commander Sinclair, who is haunted by his experiences in a
recent war. ST:DSN is run by Commander Sisko, who is haunted by his experiences
fighting the Borg.

5. B5's female second-in-command defends the station against attack from her
post on the bridge in the pilot episode. ST:DSN's female second-in-command
defends the station against attack from her post on the bridge in the pilot
episode

(ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY - end of article )







-- 

Darth Vader (John P. LaRocque)
vader@uwo.ca

"Farm chores sure could be dull, and Luke Skywalker was bored beyond belief.
He yearned for adventures out among the stars - adventures that would take him
beyond the furthest galaxies to distant and alien worlds.

"But Luke got more than he bargained for..."
                            from Star Wars the paperback (1976, first edition)

"Urk..urk..."
"Apologies accepted", Darth Vader
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From: ramsey@cua.edu (Betsy Ramsey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: BLAKES 7 Mailing List
Summary: blake7@lysator.liu.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:07:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcon.1992Nov16.190722.13550
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: The Catholic University of America

If you're wondering where all the Blakes 7 traffic has gone, it's
moved to a mailing list!

The BLAKE7 mailing list that Calle Dybedahl proposed and started in
early November is off to a flying start.  There are several
interesting topics being discussed there right now, including

  o inconsistencies
  o favorite episodes
  o Avon and idealism
  o the role of women in B7

While I wish that this discussion would take place here in news, there
are apparantly more than a few people who feel more comfortable with
the mailing list format and/or who do not have access to news.

The mailing list was announced on Nov 6th in rec.arts.sf.tv article
<1933@lysator.liu.se>.  The address of the list is
blake7@lysator.liu.se.  The address for subscription requests and
other administrative issues is blake7-request@lysator.liu.se.

Join us there!

-------
   Betsy Ramsey, The Catholic University of America, Washington, DC
            Internet: ramsey@cua.edu,  Bitnet: ramsey@cua
		 Opinions expressed here are my own.
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Re: QL: The Musical Collection
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:44:49 GMT

In article <1ebhd8INN6l0@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bdsm@poincare.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell) writes:
>
>In article <Nov.17.13.13.09.1992.18349@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:
>
>Hey, if you're gonna have 'Great Balls of Fire' (from Miss Deep South),
>you GOTTA
>have the tune 'Guanda Lagusta' (or whatever the heck the name of that song is)
>that Sam and Al dueted on, with Sam dressed up like Carmen Miranda.  But then
>again, this is mostly a visual pleaser...maybe save it for the video
>collection.
Ohh! We left out Volare'! But I'd have to vote against anything by Ray
Charles, I can get that anywhere (but I wouldn't want to).

jam
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From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim)
Subject: Re: Otherworld
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:14:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.211238.2179@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> swardwel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Stephanie  Wardwell) writes:
>And better news yet.  It's one of the upcoming Series Collection series on
>the Sci-Fi channel.  The con rep didn't say when, but definitely in the
>future, along with Manimal and Probe (okay, who remembers *that* one?)
  The one with the secret agent with the nifty cufflinks that had IR sensors,
and was connected via satellite to some lab with hoards of blinkenlights?
  Or the one done Asimov was involved in, with the genius with no social
skills.
  The first was better. Much better.


-- 
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swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | and they will work to ENSLAVE all the nations
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From: malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo)
Subject: QL: SLSB Please?!!?!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:04:56 GMT

After reading all of these references to 'Star Light, Star Bright' in the
discussions of DufE, I feel that it may be important for me to get some 
information from this episode.  WOuld someone be so kind as to send me a plot
sumarry of SLSB?

Thanks is advance

Ramon Redondo

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From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Subject: QL..Daughter of Sin AMAZING
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:19:38 GMT

 Just offering a few value comments to the newsgroup...
 QUANTUM LEAP WAS AMAZING TONIGHT 19/11/92

 It was tense, it was spooky, it was well acted, oh wow!!!!

 best show Ive seen this season, and for my mind, it finally tells me that QL
 is much better than that Star Trek rubbish that has been on recently.

 Excelllent.
 Jason.

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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Highlander FAQL?
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:15:17 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Is there a Highlander FAQ?  If not, I'd be glad to compile one, if
people send me their questions *and* answers and I can get someone
else to administer it for me.

Ex:  Q:  How did all these immortals get here, anyway?
     A:  Kind of up for grabs.  Most fans ignore the second movie's
         explanation (insert it here; I didn't go see the second :+).

     Q:  What is this Quickening biz anyway?

etc.

-Drizzt
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From: mdp2842@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Perler)
Subject: Re: QL: plot idea
Originator: mdp2842@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:03:31 GMT

In article <1ecd73INNi0p@mozz.unh.edu> mre@kepler.unh.edu (MikE) writes:
>Here's an idea for you guys to play around with:
>
>	What if Sam were to leap into a married man, go to bed with "his"
>wife, then wake up the next morning to find that he is now the wife?  (Hav-
>ing apparently leaped during the night.)

Actually, can Sam leap if he's unconsious or asleep? For example, let's say
that Sam gets knocked out, but that whatever Sam is there to do involves
someone who can see Al. Al manages to talk the person into doing what needs
to be done. Does Sam leap right away, or when he wakes up?

>Just one more question:  How come neither Sam nor Al are blinded by the light
>being given off by Sam when he leaps?

Do they see the light? Just wondering.

Mike P.
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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": further observations
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:58:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.190621.21173@u.washington.edu>, il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh) writes:
>A new topic.  Was this the first episode where Ziggy was referred to as
>"she"?
>
>-- 
No. Ziggy has consistantly been "she" since _The Leap Back_, wherein 
she had a female voice. Before that, Ziggy had consistantly been "he."
I've seen no especially believable explanation of this. 
(One, that it was Donna's influence after a change of the past put her
back in Sam's life, does not fit the most likely timeline. _Starcrossed_,
where Sam may have changed his past to get the girl, was long before a
lot of Ziggy==male references
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