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From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: ADMIN: Writer's block
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:13:14 GMT
Reply-To: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: wolfone@huey.cc.utexas.edu

Hey! Any of you know any quick cures for writer's block? I'm stuck in 
part 2 of my story trying to figure out how to run a fight.

I *hate* writer's block.

Cheers
-- 
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Future Lunar Colonist      |  are going to the stars." Anonymous
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From: bliss32@terapin.com (Geoff Schmidt)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: The continuing Gibson
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:46:31 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Sep22.225118.7704@ac.dal.ca>, rclarke@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Sep22.085945.10469@microsoft.com>, petesk@microsoft.com (Pete
Sk
>elly) writes:
>> Followup-To: In article <2060.403.uupcb@the_matrix.com>
mykel.alvis@the_matrix
>.com wrote:
>
>> Then again, there are the kids who broke into their schools computer.
>> I'll bet that really pissed off those highly expert, incredably paid
>> computer security experts working for their schools.  (yeah, right).
>I know this is getting rather uncyber punk but I just had to chuckle at this.
>I told the "highly expert, incredably paid computer seurity expert" at my
>school (I'm in high school) that I was learning C.  He stared at me and
>said "Is that a programing language".  But I never bothered trying to get
>into my school computer since they keep all the marks on one PC in the
>office(dosen't mater my marks are fine) that has the sec. working on it
always.
>Very secure.
>
>--
>Ethan Clarke
>---
>RClarke@AC.DAL.CA
>
>

Yeah, I bet they lock the door at nite!
From: olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: William Gibson's Email
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:20:00 GMT
Organization: Mission Operations and Data Systems
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bv43nJ.M00@nic.umass.edu>, torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox) writes...
>>>|	Does Gibson really read this conference? If so, why doesn't he post?
>>>|I'd be really curious to 'see' his reaction to some of the opinions expressed
> 
>	When Gibson and Sterling wrote The Difference Engine, they attempted, at first, to use an email system. Unfortunately, it was too complicated for these two guys something which greatly disappointed me, and they resorted to federal Express.
> 
>	So Gibson may just be totally confused. 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gee, does this mean that the whole cyberpunk movement, the very vibe on which
we all jam, is based on a farce?!  Like Scientology?!

I think I'm gonna have a mental crisis!

Sitting curled in a dark corner,

Dr. Forbin

P.S. - For those of you without a sense of humor, send your flames to
       weenie@bit-bucket.loser.nil.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: What is Bladerunner?
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:12:26 GMT

>Yet the integration of inorganic and organic life forms is pretty
>punk-ish...Yet, the Borg's didn't (as far as I remember) have it done
>by choice.....

Hey, my uncle of 55 is a punk, he's got an artificial pacemaker.

I think there has to be a definate 'voluntary' side to it, it only 
becomes punk when its 'making a statement', like this is how weak your
body is, and look how strong mine is.  I am not part of what you call
society - fuck off.'

toodaloo

hook


Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
Subject: Re: Cyber ritual is killing me!
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:10:24 GMT

  I agree completely: the whole issue of Cyber ritual, as the alt.
magick folks see it, and the question "Is alt.magick a coven?" belong
over there in alt. magick. There is just one spark of a connection,
though....
  Ever read Vernor Vinge's classic novella, "True Names"?  As I recall,
Mister Slippery and the bunch were high-level Cyberians who called their
Net gathering a "coven." Vinge very artfully wove together coven and
fantasy imagery with a very imaginative vision of navigating information
spaces. The rituals that they went through...
  Sigh.... now I'm just continuing the thread everybody wants 86ed from
altcyberpunk. Apologies to all.
  :(

 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: queensryche lyric stuck in my head.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 23:06:50 EDT
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia


I was just listening to the song _I Will Remember_ off of Queensryche's Rage
For Order album and one line just really struck me as very cpish..

"And we wonder how machines can steal each other's dreams"

Just had to share that with everyone.  No, this isn't part of the "What is CP
music" debate.  Now I'm wondering if it really has any meaning, or if it was
just thrown in because it sounded cool.

Can't believe I missed that line before...


--
morpheus@entropy.mcds.com              Let's watch the world fall apart.
morpheus@f208.n2606.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: d'kukoo
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:39:27 GMT

brigham@apple.com writes:
>I bet I spelled it wrong, but I'm too tired to go search for a CD...

You need the umlatte omelette init!  It is something like D'Cuckoo with
a fancy u.

>Just saw them last week at DNA in San Francisco, and loved it.

I saw them a few months ago at a CD release party.  The thing that caught
my attention was that the newest member  (at that time anyway) was from
an oriental drum performance group that was at the closing party of the
'91 Apple WWDC.

I also like what they were doing with the SGI equipment.  I wonder if that
would preclude them from playing at the next WWDC?  (Voice farm was
pretty lame).

-- 

 \ | /   | Brian Hall                 mspace@netcom.com
 - : -   | Mark/Space Softworks       Applelink: markspace
  /|\    |                            America Online: MarkSpace
 |-+-|   |
/-\|/-\  | The tornado ate my powerbook.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: queensryche lyric stuck in my head.
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:43:09 GMT

morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus) writes:


>"And we wonder how machines can steal each other's dreams"

>Just had to share that with everyone.  No, this isn't part of the "What is CP
>music" debate.  Now I'm wondering if it really has any meaning, or if it was
>just thrown in because it sounded cool.

I often through meaningless, but cool sounding, gibberish into my songs.
Cant see why Queensryche wouldnt/

hook
From: dbongard@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steerpike)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Test post
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:33:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

This is a test post.

Don't you enjoy test posts immensely?

dbongard@ucsd.edu
From: davida@cs.uq.oz.au (David Arnold)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: William Gibson's Email
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:22:25 GMT
Reply-To: davida@cs.uq.oz.au

In article <1992Sep25.201939.13173@nmsu.edu> jgoodric@dante.nmsu.edu (GOODRICH) writes:
>
>wants to get on with something else.  I read it in a copy of a really 
>interesting post-structuralist book about cyberpunk.
				^^^^
What book ?

--david

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: Re: y
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:38:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.194559.12875@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>In article 1VqVRB3w165w@freeside.com, merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi) writes:
>> Does anyone besides me see the possibilities of low-temp conversion 
>> memory metals in Cyber-weaponry?   Looking back at R. Tal's Cyberpunk 

   [rippers desc deleted]

>
>well it was already done .... 
>read neuromancer ... all fingers flex out ...
>also read X-men comics ... a dude named Wolverine has it .. SNICKT
>  Steve C.

Um... I think he was referring to NON-fiction.

JT
From: accom@terapin.com (Andrew Ross)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Time Travel & Teleportation in Cyberspace
Date: 4 Oct 92 10:42:58 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Oct2.071620.5809@techbook.com>, szabo@techbook.com (Nick Szabo)
writes:
>In article <kcj.717894800@dptspd> kcj@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (Kevin Jones)
wri
>tes:
>>You folks are all missing the easy way to do time travel (and teleportation 
>>for that matter).  When the sum total of what you experience in 
>>your life is computer generated, anything is possible. 
>
>
>Not absolutely true, but a very interesting observation.
>
>Teleportation is quite feasible, but time travel is somewhat limited.
>We can't create the future to travel into, because it is indeterminate.
>Even if there were no random or quantum-world inputs, we'd run into the 
>halting problem.  We can travel to the past, observe, and change some
>variables, but only insofar as we are running algorithms with different
>input.  We can't change the actions of people or real-world events that
>impacted the system, except insofar as the people come back and
>consciously change them in cyberspace.  The crudest example is the
>"undo" function on good computers which allows us to step back one
>data-increment into the past to undo a mistake.
See Larry Niven's Theory and practice of time travel and theory and pratice of
teleportation... He argues both are impossible, the first one mainly because of
conservation of energy... Unless I guess you could use stepping disks... O
well.. L8r!
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: Non-Drug Induced States
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:47:43 GMT

merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi) writes:

>  I'm not entirely sure, but I have noticed several new patterns to local 
>cop-car lights, some on which had odd effects on my ability to 
>concentrate.   ( iam NOT epileptic, nor do I have any other sort of brain 
>abnormality. )
> /// & ///

Except for needing to write disclaimers about your sanity.
:)

hook

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: y
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:45:59 GMT

In article 1VqVRB3w165w@freeside.com, merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi) writes:
> Does anyone besides me see the possibilities of low-temp conversion 
> memory metals in Cyber-weaponry?   Looking back at R. Tal's Cyberpunk 
> Game, they have a concealed weapon called `rippers'.  Basicly they 
> replace the outer two bones of each finger in one hand with metaxDl 
> replacements; inside, somehow, they coil up a 4" blade, when the hands 
> are tightened into a `cat-claw' position, the blades extend.  
>    It seems that it would be much easier to build a blade of memory metal 
> around a heating/cooling coil and just have switches connected to the 
> muscles in your forearm, it would heat the metal and cause it to f{w3t({w 
>  flow out of your finger, ready for battle.
>    allright, it is a bit corny, and yes I kn{w that there is more to 
> Cpunk than the RPG's, but the idea is there...  Memory Metal could be 
> used in prostetics or in micro-Waldoes.  The possibilties are enormous...
>   /// & ///
> 
> --
> merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi)
> Rivendell BBS -*- Houston, TX -*- +1(713)941-2236


well it was already done .... 
read neuromancer ... all fingers flex out ...
also read X-men comics ... a dude named Wolverine has it .. SNICKT
  Steve C.

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Paintball!
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:46:08 GMT

In article <BvGB11.A02@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tj32633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ronin) writes:
>I didn't say IR goggles, I said IR gear as stated by the original poster.  
>Actually, it is a heat sensing device, I believe the size of a walkman, but
>don't quote me on that.   I know how to get Starlight scopes and 
>light-enhancing goggles but the cost is tremendous and I would like to be paid
>in advanced.

Actually, almost every video camera can pick up near-IR emmissions.
Don't believe me?  Go turn your camera on an IR remote control.
Press a few buttons (do this in the dark).  You'll see pretty
bright flashes.  This not only works with alot of CCDs, but also with
my wimpy $5 vidicon tube (a great investment...the image of a 7-11
isle is burned into the tube, so you don't have to worry about sets
when you are filming someone...as long as your entire flick is about
a convenience store :)

The thing I haven't tried is using the $50 megamother IR filter from
Edmund Scientific with a floodlamp and a CCD camera to try real
nighvision (active) stuff.

-Thomas
 resident technoshaman


Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: daryl@zaphod.uchicago.edu (Daryl McLaurine)
Subject: Re: Paintball! (look in Rec.Games.Paintball)
Summary: All you need to know is in REC.GAMES.PAINTBALL
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:06:52 GMT


C'mon over!
Paintball FAQ's!
	Paintball Info!!
		Paintball Flames?!?!! (nah....;-})
			READ "REC.GAMES.PAINTBALL"!

	-Daryl
====================== Standard Disclaimers apply ======================
 Daryl McLaurine,     Systems Consultant / Systems Administrator 
 University of Chicago Mathematics Dept. / Cummings Computing Facility 
 daryl@zaphod.UChicago.EDU(128.135.72.61)/ system@biovax.uchicago.edu
From: merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Paintball!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:26:49 CDT
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

> It's like this:
>     --know of a place to walk into, and places where to order, little 
> gizmos commonly called "Paint-ball guns." Expensive, yeah. But if enough 
> show interest in some urban cyberpunk games, and enough have the creative 
> juices, the technic skills to make it, like, man, a real cyberpunk whizz 
> then wouldn't it be so cool (dude)? 
>     Man, scam on the view: grafitti camuflage and gray fatigues, pitched 
> night battles blending into urban wildness. Tracking pinlights on the end 
> of gunmetal blue barrels trying to nail a target. No holds-barred 
> paintball guerrilla action: radio & sound trackers, motion sensors, 
> scramblers, smoke, IR gear, night-sights, fire crackers, trip lines to 
> paint grenades--get those urban animal emotions out on the painting 
> ground with a technic edge. None of this quasi-military, Vietcong vs Red, 
> White & Blue--I'm buzzing on acid firefights, combat raves, modern 
> primitives pierced up the ya-yas stalking with wild tech more of the 
> same.
>     Please direct inquiries and suggestions to me.
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
>    |       /         |\
>    | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!verge@well.sf.ca.us ]

   `Combat Rave'  Terrific term!  Mind if I use it in a story?
   Seriously, I believe there is a group doing something like this out in 
CA, something with the sense-suits the army developed for wargames ( they 
can detect a hit by a lazer of a certain frequency.), low-power lazer 
rifles, and goggles.  I don't remember the details, but it took place in 
some multilevel building.  Like photon++...
   Anyone else with info?
   /// & ///

--
merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi)
Rivendell BBS -*- Houston, TX -*- +1(713)941-2236
From: merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: y
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:31:59 CDT
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

Does anyone besides me see the possibilities of low-temp conversion 
memory metals in Cyber-weaponry?   Looking back at R. Tal's Cyberpunk 
Game, they have a concealed weapon called `rippers'.  Basicly they 
replace the outer two bones of each finger in one hand with metaxDl 
replacements; inside, somehow, they coil up a 4" blade, when the hands 
are tightened into a `cat-claw' position, the blades extend.  
   It seems that it would be much easier to build a blade of memory metal 
around a heating/cooling coil and just have switches connected to the 
muscles in your forearm, it would heat the metal and cause it to f{w3t({w 
 flow out of your finger, ready for battle.
   allright, it is a bit corny, and yes I kn{w that there is more to 
Cpunk than the RPG's, but the idea is there...  Memory Metal could be 
used in prostetics or in micro-Waldoes.  The possibilties are enormous...
  /// & ///

--
merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi)
Rivendell BBS -*- Houston, TX -*- +1(713)941-2236
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Non-Drug Induced States
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:24:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Hello,
  I'm starting to work on my senior thesis for art.  I'm interested in 
"non-drug-induced tripping" or states of well-being.  I've been looking into
the use of such things by rotating mandlebrot/fractal color patterns (looks
like tie-dye patterns) and also by the effects of stereoscopic (3-d, crosseyed
view, etc) images.  There are other ways to go about this kind of stuff
(I think that Timothy Leary is getting involved with it)  Since I don't do
drugs, it's hard to know if I'm approaching the same results, although things
can still be "funky" to me.
An example of this effect of "pseudo-tripping":
  Once at the Limelight, in NYC I was sitting in a small side dance room.
There weren't too many people in there, this light was shining off a mirrored
disco ball and created hundreds of little lights on the floor moving around.
If I followed the lights around it was alright, but when I stared at one
spot on the floor, it felt like I was flying and spinning around.  If effects
like these are combined with stereo sound (oscillating between speakers..
to cause a rotating effect) total disorientation of the user/viewer will occur.
Do you know of any publications (books, magazine articles, etc) that deal
with this sort of thing?  Any information will be appreciated.
 - Thanks

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Xref: sparky alt.cyberpunk.tech:722 rec.arts.sf.misc:3058 alt.society.civil-liberty:6154
From: allens@yang.earlham.edu (Allen Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech,rec.arts.sf.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty
Subject: Re: high-tech data drops
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:14:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.society.civil-liberty
Distribution: world
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <8074@public.BTR.COM>, grady@public.BTR.COM ( ) writes:
> The important aspect of all these above scenarios is that 
> they all effectively evade the new proposed FBI digital 
> telephony bill.  In fact, the new telephony bill makes is 
> easier to abscond with corporate secrets because the Bill 
> _guarantees_ a vulnerable spot in each PBX and computer 
> network or BBS.  This vulnerability is supposedly only 
> exploitable by the FBI -- in truth, it can be exploited by 
> anyone with sufficient, and moderate, technical skill.
> 
> I guess the point of all the above is that the new proposed 
> digital provider bill is already obsolete by current, not to 
> mention future, technology.  By even _proposing_ such a bill, 
> the FBI admits that it needs a "cheat" to keep up with 
> current technology -- but such an explicit admission 
> virtually assures a hacker, spy, corporate thief, cracker, 
> samizdat publisher, or persons simply interested in privacy, 
> that the FBI has the policy of looking for the quick-and-
> dirty work-around rather than truly mastering the available 
> technologies and carrying out their lawful duty without 
> technical or economic degradation to equally lawful users.
> 
> Perhaps, like the hilariously ineffective "outlawing" interception
> of cellular radio  conversations, this FBI digital provider requirements
> bill  may give a false sense of security to the legislators and the 
> agency itself, all the while more thoroughly compromising the privacy
> of  "ordinary" people and simultaneously making our products less
> competitive  abroad.
> 
> Meanwhile, ironically, the Bill _assures_ the cracker and 
> hacker of moderate capacity a continued bonanza of high-tech 
> data anonymously acquired through undefeatable conspiracies, 
> that can be undetectably exploited, and unbreakably 
> concealed.
> 
	It also assures the FBI and other agencies of having a convenient 
handle to prosecute any computer net or BBS for doing anything they don't 
like- such as oh, say, supporting another candidate for president than the 
incumbent. In other words, they come in and claim that they don't have 
adequate ability to tap it, therefore the system gets multi-thousand or so 
fines and is shut down. It's a blackmail tool.
	-Allen
From: watpod72@alfred.carleton.ca (George Bragg)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Paintball!
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:31:05 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <eNqVRB1w165w@freeside.com> merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi) writes:
>   Seriously, I believe there is a group doing something like this out in 
>CA, something with the sense-suits the army developed for wargames ( they 
>can detect a hit by a lazer of a certain frequency.), low-power lazer 
>rifles, and goggles.  I don't remember the details, but it took place in 
>some multilevel building.  Like photon++...

Reminds me of an idea I had...  If you took an ordinary go-cart,
mounted a sensor gun on the front, and a sensor on the back (maybe
wired into a cut-out switch so you'd stop after getting hit 5 times?),
I thought it would be a cool game.  Of course, getting such an
establishment insured may be difficult...
From: dqz9515@acf5.NYU.EDU (George Bush)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Time Travel & Teleportation in Cyberspace
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:45:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

I think you could travel backward in 3D, so is the time.
the defference is we could not perceive it in the regular
way
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