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From: kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki)
Subject: Fishing Line Poll
Keywords: fishing line
Reply-To: kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki)
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:48:44 GMT


All of these posts about everyones' preferences to different brands of
line has prompted me to try a casual poll.  I would like to solicit
peoples' responses about what line they like, and I will condense all of
the information and hopefully have it included into the FAQ.  Am I
correct that Brian Dixon is maintaining the FAQ?  Anyway, for anyone who
would like to contribute, this is how we can do it.  Please EMail me
your favorite lines in the following format:


1) Brand
2) Mono/Fly Line?
3) Line Weight Used
4) Comments (One or two sentences max, ie durability, price etc.)

Because many people do several different types of fishing, you can send
a max of three entries, but please don't send a different one for every
line weight that you use.  I will compile the results in groups of line
weight if there are enough responses, and there will at least be a
separate category for Mono and Fly line.

Mail resonses directly to:  Bernie Kosicki <kosicki@s35.Prime.com>  I
will allow about a week before I start to do anything with them.  Oh, if
people think this is a stupid idea, then let me know right away, so I
don't sit around like an idiot waiting for mail :-)


Later,

Bernie Kosicki <kosicki@s35.Prime.com>
From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing Report:  West Virginia
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:15:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Sep15.095123.119267@marshall.wvnet.edu> pro016@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>PS How many other states have a YEAR ROUND TROUT SEASON ?  
                                  
Colorado does.

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
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From: wilbur@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Wilbur)
Subject: Fishing at Lake Berryessa
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:39:41 GMT

I am starting to bass fish more in the San Francisco/San Jose Bay area
and was wondereing if anybody had any suggestions about Lake
Berryessa, in particular, whether it has a reputation for having a
decent bite in the fall.  Any suggestions about lures etc. would be
appreciated.


Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: Sharp teeth
Keywords: leader, sharp teeth
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:17:45 GMT

In article <8SEP199210335569@wccf.mit.edu> buzz@wccf.mit.edu (Sheila Gay Buzzee) writes:
>
>	I am new to the game, and am learning to use lures instead of bobber 
>fishing.  I have gotten the hang of it well enough to have a new problem.  
>This weekend I stumbled onto a lake full of very aggressive, healthy pickeral, 
>and found that the teeth on a 3lb fish will easily cut the 6lb test line I was 
>using.  After the first one did that, I put on a saltwater metal leader.  The 
>frequency of catches went way down.  We had been pulling one in every 3rd cast 
>or so, then we went without one for almost 30 minutes.  We took the leaders 
>off, and boom, the fish started biting again.  Any advice for a novice?  How 
>can I keep from losing the fish (and my favorite Meps) but not use the metal 
>leader, which clearly deterred the fish from biting?  
>
>	How's that for a good problem to have?  
>
>	I decided fishing is pretty darned exciting, after all.  And to think 
>I wasted all that time waiting for the bobber to move, when I could have been 
>fighting these monsters...  Oh well, better late than never.
>
>	Buzz
>
>	PS  Sorry I can't tell exactly where this lake is, but I'm sworn to 
>secrecy and my fishing partner would KILL me and use me for bait.  It is 
>somewhere in eastern Mass, though.  Fish on!

Use an 8 to 12 lb. mono leader, preferably with a hard finish.
Pickerel are not all that leader-shy as long as you're using mono.
-- 
Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		
DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
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508-435-4567
From: beaker@parrot.creighton.edu (Rodney Hoden)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Eagle Lake fishing trip
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:28:14 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


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From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: Re: Fall run Salmon in California???
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:05:05 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


Try the Smith in North Northern Calif....  some good fishing there 
when I was in College at Humboldt State....
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From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:01:35 GMT

In article <BuKtE4.5C1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor) writes:
|> plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <Sep11.163336.67788@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> Again, this is for warm-blooded fish in freshwater. 
|> 
|> >and I thought that the bass-alope was either a myth or a new type 
|> >of mellon... 
|> 
|> 	I would love to see the fur coat and water repellant barrier
|> 	on a warm blooded fresh water fish from Minnesota.

Come-on-along and bring yer club! 

		-Pat.
From: jerryw@cs.umd.edu (Jerry Wieber)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing Report:  West Virginia
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:40:01 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Sep15.095123.119267@marshall.wvnet.edu> pro016@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>And as for our Centennial Golden Rainbow Trout its not a bad looking
>fish in my opinion. 

Then I must have not seen a Golden Trout, cause it was way ugly.  I was
mislead by the WV DNR guy.

>And to those individuals who said" nearly 100% of WV is catch and keep
>and the locals put a lot of pressure on the Stream ..."
>why dont you guys try fishing other places that are not so damn popular
>and over fished by both local and NONRESIDENTS there is plenty of places
>out there in WV that hold Native Brookies and Wild rainbows and browns
>and 90% of the time I might see 3 people at the most. Try posting for
>information on WV trout fishing/get the Trout Fishing Guide from the 
>WV DNR it has a lot of info in it.

This is, of course, the dilemma.  If I knew where these places were,
then I would gladly fish there.  Yet, everybody is remarkably tight
lipped about where good fishing is.  While this is all well and good,
it doesn't encourage me to spend my fishing dollars in WV.  It's just
too frustrating.

If more of the "damn popular" streams in WV were C&R, I would have more
incentive to head out there.

>PS How many other states have a YEAR ROUND TROUT SEASON ?  

This is, undoubtably, part of the problem.

-Jerry
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From: boone@rtsg.mot.com (Todd D. Boone)
Subject: Re: What kind of line to use - pros and cons
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:11:31 GMT

In article <369@evtprp0b.UUCP> mrt7455@evtprp0b (Michael R Tucker) writes:
>
>     I know that this issue was covered in alt.fishing once
>before.  I didn't pay that much attention to it at the time
>and this is now r.o.f, so I'll pose the questions.  I am
>trying to make some good decisions as to what brand of line
>to use.  My requirements are good-to-excellent limpness as I
>am using a spinning rig 100% of the time.  I need good knot
>holding capability. I do mostly river and stream fishing, so
>I need something with good abrasion resistance.  But I also
>do a little saltwater spinning too.  Almost all of the
>fishing I do, salt or fresh, bay, stream, or lake, is light
>tackle, less than 10lb test.  What are everybody's
>recommendations?

 I recommend Bagley's Silver Tread AN40.  Tackle Test Magazine
 did an article that Highly recommended AN40 2 lb test over all
 other brands tested.  I realize that you may not be using 2 lb
 test; however, I've had friends that fish alot of clear water
 lakes in California tell me that they love the stuff.  Some of
 the catagories the line faired well in was limpness, abrasion
 resistance, tensile strength, and line diameter.  The only reason
 that I haven't yet tried it is because, I'm still using a 2000 yd
 roll of Trimax.  I value the opinions of both Tackle Test, and 
 my semi-pro fishing pals in Cali.

 Hope this helps.

 -todd
>
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From: z_hansonde@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: BOWFISHING NEWS
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:00:16 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Has anyone been Bowfishing lately?Stories,Questions,Comments welcome.

              Aim Lo !
                            David Hanson -TBA member

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From: roe@ll.mit.edu ( Ted Roe)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:10:20 GMT

I recently read a book called "The Weather Companion" by Gary
Lockhart.  A section of the book talks about weather and fishing.
There were several references to fishing and barometric pressure.

One was an old American Indian proverb "Fish go down deep means a
coming storm", which he goes on to explain by the fact that when the
pressure drops the fish go deeper to keep a neutral buoyancy.

A reference was made to a 1937 study by the Sportsmen's Club of
Lincoln, Illinois that fishing was good when the barometer was 29.90"
and rising or steady, and that fishing was bad at a low point or if
pressure was falling.

He also mentioned a study in Kansas that indicated that fishing was
best during steady medium-high pressure.

My own experience last week in central Maine was poor bass fishing
during several days of windy, sunny, steady high pressure. A low
pressure front moved in with some rain one afternoon, and the fishing
remained poor while it rained. The next morning the low was still
there with overcast skys, and the fishing was excellent.

I expect that there are too many factors (pressure, light,
temperature, terrain, food supplies, etc.) involved to make any easy
rules of thumb. My experience tends to make me believe that light is a
strong factor, i.e., bigger bass during dark or overcast conditions.

That doesn't stop me from going out on bright days, as getting out
on the water with a rod in my hands is more important than bringing
back a big one :)

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From: kevoka@auto-trol.com (Kevin O'Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: fishing report, lake carnegie and d&r canal
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:58:25 GMT
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation

In article <1992Sep10.191200.22270@newross.Princeton.EDU> jmd@kastle.Princeton.EDU (John M. Danskin) writes:
>
>Lets see.
>
>I got out a little late this morning to southern lake carnegie. I was going
>to try my new jointed rapala floating minnow out on the local largemouths.
>I had seen a lot of jumping largemouths in this area, but never caught one.
>

Thanks for the tale I needed the laugh. :-) :-)

Kevin O'Kane
From: buzz@wccf.mit.edu (Sheila Gay Buzzee)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Sharp teeth
Keywords: leader, sharp teeth
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:33:00 GMT
Organization: MIT - Whitaker College
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I am new to the game, and am learning to use lures instead of bobber 
fishing.  I have gotten the hang of it well enough to have a new problem.  
This weekend I stumbled onto a lake full of very aggressive, healthy pickeral, 
and found that the teeth on a 3lb fish will easily cut the 6lb test line I was 
using.  After the first one did that, I put on a saltwater metal leader.  The 
frequency of catches went way down.  We had been pulling one in every 3rd cast 
or so, then we went without one for almost 30 minutes.  We took the leaders 
off, and boom, the fish started biting again.  Any advice for a novice?  How 
can I keep from losing the fish (and my favorite Meps) but not use the metal 
leader, which clearly deterred the fish from biting?  

	How's that for a good problem to have?  

	I decided fishing is pretty darned exciting, after all.  And to think 
I wasted all that time waiting for the bobber to move, when I could have been 
fighting these monsters...  Oh well, better late than never.

	Buzz

	PS  Sorry I can't tell exactly where this lake is, but I'm sworn to 
secrecy and my fishing partner would KILL me and use me for bait.  It is 
somewhere in eastern Mass, though.  Fish on!
From: kevin@cadzook.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Kevin.Dailey)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: What kind of line to use - pros and cons
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:08:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: sell for about $7.00.  1000yd spool of Silver Thread from a catalog is 
: about $11.99.  I bought three spools of 4, 8, and 12# line two years ago
: it looks like a long time before I finish any of these spools.  
: (Don't worry...I change my line every spring...I'm not that frugal contrary
: to my New England yankee upbringing.  :-)   )
: 
: JC in VT.
: 


	I wish I could "afford" to only change my line 'every spring'.  This
	year has not been as much so, but usually I fish 2-3 times per week
	and may have to change line once a week depending on the cover I
	am fishing and the abrasions the line has to survive.
	Always remember: "The monofilament is the weakest link between you and
	your fish - So choose it well".  Someone else said that one time - I
	don't remember who who it was but it's good advice.	

							Good Fishing!

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From: brown@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Pat R. Brown)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:32:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Restoration of antique gear.
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

Better find out if the fly rod is one of the more valuable makes before 
you work on it. Your local fly shop owner should be able to tell you. Some 
of the old rods are worth several 100s of dollars, some only a few$. 

Pat in Greenacres, WA (yes it is a real place)

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: fbrown@ssd.kodak.com (Frank Brown)
Subject: Re: Laser guided smart-lures
Keywords: Laser, Lure, Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:12:51 GMT

In article <douthit.716242523@scofflaw> douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>smmyers@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Sean M. Myers) writes:
>
>
>>     I was watching some saturday morning fishing show a couple of months back
>>(it was more like a paid advertisement) and they were pushing these lures that
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Aren't they all ?
>
>>*really weird*!!!  Possibly unethical ???
>
>Don't worry.  My brother-in-law, the one who will buy any gimic, bought a 
>top water lure like this.  He had to yank real hard to get it to work.
>After making such a comotion in the water, the small amount of movement
>which occurs afterwards goes unnoticed.  In my experiance, fish are more
>attracted to much more subtle presentations.
>
>>     I have to say one thing for them though, they *were* catching fish.
>
>Once again, don't they always :^)
>
I'm sorry to say I got sucked in. A bay where I fish has lots of nice
largemouths that seem real finicky. After watching this show I said
I know how to get em now. Wrong! You have to jerk the lure about 3
feet to make the legs move. Any of the tried and true top water lures
will catch fish(for me) better than that frog.

Frank
>Speaking of fishing shows, I've been watching Honey Hole (on HSE) lately.
>I like it because it is realistic, covers only Texas lakes (good for me :^)
>and he always shows a map of where he is fishing and the lures he used
>at the end of the show.  
>
>And speaking of advertisements, if I see that (We're not going fishin' without
>TRILENE commercial one more time I'm gonna scream.
>
>Ok, I'm on my soap box and off of the subject, time to go...
>
>
>				-Ron
>


From: brown@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Pat R. Brown)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:38:00 GMT
Subject: Re: uncoiling the coiled leader
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

Don't forget to run the leader thru a line straightener. You can buy a 
fancy one from Orvis for about $10, or you can use an old piece of a 
bicycle intertube. 

To use this device you fold it over the line and pince and pull the line 
thru. 

Another way is to grab both ends of the line and slowly pull until the 
line streaches some and then slowly release the tension. 

Good luck, Pat in Greenacres, WA (Yes it is a real place) 
"It's a scientific lifestyle"

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: msmith@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: What kind of line to use - pros and cons
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:32:02 GMT

In article <369@evtprp0b.UUCP> mrt7455@evtprp0b (Michael R Tucker) writes:
>
>     I know that this issue was covered in alt.fishing once
>before.  I didn't pay that much attention to it at the time
>and this is now r.o.f, so I'll pose the questions.  I am
>trying to make some good decisions as to what brand of line
>to use.  My requirements are good-to-excellent limpness as I
>am using a spinning rig 100% of the time.  I need good knot
>holding capability. I do mostly river and stream fishing, so
>I need something with good abrasion resistance.  But I also
>do a little saltwater spinning too.  Almost all of the
>fishing I do, salt or fresh, bay, stream, or lake, is light
>tackle, less than 10lb test.  What are everybody's
>recommendations?

My favorite line is Maxima.  The problem is that it tends to be a little
on the stiff side and tends to hold a coil until about 2 to 3 casts.  On
the plus side, it has excellent abrasion resistance, probably one of the
best, and excellent knot strength.  I've pulled 15 lb steelhead out of
rocks with 8 lb line.  

My experience with some of the limper lines is that they tend to be soft
too.  I've tried most of the Stren series of lines and found the knot
strength to be comparable to over cooked spahgetti and abrasion
resistance only "fair".  Berkley may be limp, but there again, it's too
soft for fishing around rocks or brush.

Really, just do a LOT of fishing and use a different brand of line every
2 months or so.  You'll find one you like eventually.

Fishin' the NorthWest.
From: rhott@relay.nswc.navy.mil (The VolleyDog - E41)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing Report:  West Virginia
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:24:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NAVAL SURFACE WARFARE CENTER

In article <60205@mimsy.umd.edu>, jerryw@cs.umd.edu (Jerry Wieber) writes:
|> Spent a rather soggy Memorial Day weekend fishing the Seneca Rocks area
|> of West Virginia.  Nearly 100% of West Virginia is catch and keep, and
|> the locals apparently put a lot of pressure on the streams with their
|> bait fishing and spinning gear (for trout!).
|> 
|> My fishing partner and I worked the Gandy River, Seneca Creek, and the
|> North Fork of the South Potomac River.  The Potomac *is* C&R by Seneca
|> Rocks (WV calls it "Fish for Fun") and has some huge trout as a result,
|> from past experience.  The other streams had little visible fish life.
|> 
|> We worked various terrestrials and mayflys, with little effect.  The
|> fish were in the water, but appeared to be bottom feeding, ignoring the
|> tempting insect treats proffered on the surface.  Typical late summer
|> conditions?
|> 
|> One curious fish we ran into was refered to as a golden trout, but
|> looked more like a sucker.  A Fish and Wildlife warden said that WV
|> bred this hybrid, and were quite proud of this development.  He (the
|> warden) shook his head and said it was more like a bastard cross
|> between a trout and a carp.  Yuck.
|> 
|> Anyway, we are still looking for good fly fishing within four hours of
|> the D.C. area.  Maybe Western Maryland (Savage River) will be next.
|> 
|> Next up:  Chesapeake Bay fishing off of Point Lookout, salmon fishing
|> 	  in Puget Sound, and an end of the month visit to the Outer
|> 	  Banks.  Eat your heart out :) 
|> 
|> -Jerry
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Jerry,
  I grew up around that area (North Fork).  I prefer the smallmouth fishing.
We use hellgramites (either spinning gear or fly gear).  I have heard rumors
that next year may return to catch and keep.  I guess I still prefer catch
and release though.  I look forward to catching those 2 pounders a year
later.  My brother caught a citation size (>4 lbs) smallmouth the same weekend
you were up.

  As you mentioned, the area is proud of the golden trout.  I am not sure
but I think Petersburg used to have a sign on entering that stated that it
was the "home of the golden trout".

  I will be eating my heart out, over your next fishing trips!!  Have fun!

Bob Hott
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From: bab7458@usl.edu (Bernard Bruce A)
Subject: info on sam rayburn reservoir
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
  As the subject says, I will be going to Sam Rayburn Reservoir
 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:08:11 GMT

                     -thanks      bruce