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From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:53:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <92209.153953PCHEWNI@auvm.american.edu>, PCHEWNI@auvm.american.edu (Peter Chewning) writes:
> There was only one problem with reviving Capt. Pike. Jeffrey Hunter died in
> 1968.

So hire another actor who looks similar to Hunter.  Majel Barret, who
played his first officer, is still alive, but she hardly looks as young as
when she first appeared in "The Cage."


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:29:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.123758.4064@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.194144.10370@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Jul27.154205.3315@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>> >ludwigj@CS.ColoState.EDU (Vilkata (Joe Ludwig)) writes:
>> >
>
>> >I want to see Wesley get *dumped*.  That might give him some actual 
>> >depth...
>> 
>> Wes _did_ acquire depth this season.  Or did you miss "The First Duty"?
>> 
>
>Weasel Crusher Depth Measurement Instructions:
>
>1) Take glass of water
>2) Spill on countertop
>3) Measure depth
>
>Depth of water = Depth of Wes Crusher
>
>"We're in StarFleet, we don't lie"

Um, that was four years ago.

>The punk should be doing push-ups on the concrete at StarFleet  Minimum

Oh, sorry.  I forgot how many people out there are intimidated by the
Wes character.  Hits too close to home I guess.

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From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes an idea for STVII
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:01:07 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

becker@edwards-vax.af.mil and i are at it again:

>The Star Trek movies keep the heart of TOS [meaning Kirk, Spock, and McCoy]
>which is what they are supposed to do.

well then, we are stalemated.  you think that any movie about Star Trek
_must_ center around The Holy Trinity, while i think that the rich background
of Star Trek history which has been built up over the last 25 years
is a gold mine of untapped stories and movies, none of which involve
The Three Stooges.  you think these stories should not be told and
these movies should not be made; i do.  obviously there is no point
in continuing this discussion.

>>some of us, in fact, are pretty friggin' tired of seeing Kirk in action.

>Well, I'm not.

see what i mean?

>>oh, and i'm afraid i can't really agree with your claim that "the other
>>actors interact more in the movies than in TOS".  i become very angry
>>when i think of all the cheap laughs they're forced into (scotty banging
>>his head against a beam which is obviously in plain sight, uhura flipping
>>through klingon dictionaries, etc.) instead of decent roles.

 >I do not think that the humor added to the ST movies is cheap.  Scotty
 >banging his head against the beam was hysterical!  I know, you have never
 >in your life banged your foot into your dresser, or table, or door, or
 >wall because you know your surroundings so well.  You've never bumped your
 >head as you entered your car or got out.  But, I must admit I have.  I
 >have stubbed my toes in my home that I've lived in for years, a home I
 >know like "the back of my hand" and I have also bumped my head entering
 >into my car.  And it was funny.  At least my friends thought so, I did
 >too once the pain went away.  And by the way, I believe Scotty was looking
 >downward as he was walking mumbling that he knew the ship like the back
 >of his hand and then wacko smack in the head!

hello?  hello?  my point was not that that scene was not funny (it wasn't
IMHO) but that sulu&chekov&uhura&scotty are just comedy relief to the 3
when they could be so much more.

and no, he was looking neither down nor straight ahead; about halfway down.
it was not funny to me because they showed it in every preview and commercial
before the movie even started playing, so i saw it coming a mile away,
so it wasn't funny.

ok
dpm
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: NCC1-1701A model with lights & sound?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:44:47 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 1992 17:09:31 GMT, destill@mtu.edu (DAVID E. STILL) said:

destill> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>I recently saw a model kit of the NCC1-1701A that includes lights and
>sound. If anyone has built this one, I'd appreciate hearing what you
>think of the quality of the effects. Are the sounds something close
>the the "real" thing, or just random beeps?  -- Blaine Gardner @
>Evans & Sutherland 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne BIX:
>blaine_g
>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200

destill> Where did you see this model?  Do you know who the
destill> manufacturer is?  How much does it cost?  Just wondering.

Any good hobby type store would have it, or could order it for you.

--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:39:37 GMT

In article <5975@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:

[on our favorite character Wes C...]

>nice post, jon, but don't forget the part where the top brass at StarFleet
>(motto: We Don't Lie, We're Diplomats) garnishees the weasel's wages
>for the next 3,141,592 stardates or so to pay for the five spaceships
>that the Nova Squadron (motto: Back Off, We're Worshipped By Cadets) totalled.


Wages?  What wages?  Money has been abolished in the future, contrary to
the many contradictory references we've seen in Trek.  Who needs money
in the future?  Everything's free.  A new squadron of stunt ships should
be as readily obtainable as a new doorkno... whoops.  They don't have
those either.  At least not in the swankier sections of the Fed.



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From: jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be)
Subject: Re: NCC1-1701A model with lights & sound?
Originator: jasonl@gagme
Organization: Kentucky Fried Chicken, Tehran--A Subsidiary of gagme, Chicago, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:09:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.200822.11926@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
:>I recently saw a model kit of the NCC1-1701A that includes lights and
:>sound. If anyone has built this one, I'd appreciate hearing what you
:>think of the quality of the effects. Are the sounds something close the
:>the "real" thing, or just random beeps?

I haven't had time to build the whole thing (I have barely enough desk space
these days for my keyboard) but the instant I got mine home, I had to try out
the sound effects unit.  Throw some batteries in it, cause you're in for a
pleasant surprise--the sounds it produces are the real TOS phaser and torpedo
effects (albeit sampled at low frequency).  Although I don't think the lighting
is sufficient.  I'll be adding a few more lamps and LEDs to mine.  For anyone
who's technically inclined that might build this model, the switch for the sound
effects is double-pole, but only one pole is used.  One COULD wire in an LED
flasher to the other pole to control LEDs placed in the phaser emitters and the
photon launchers so that they kick on when their sound is triggered.  I'll do
this sometime, and maybe I'll .gif the schematic and put it on an ftp site once
I get to Champaign this fall, if it's possible.

:>-- 
:>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
:>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
:>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200


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From: jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (John Hopkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek license plate!
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:58:43 GMT
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

In article <1992Jul23.190052.28113@u.washington.edu> scotrix@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Scotrix) writes:

>I *love* the idea about doing something regarding the USS Excelsior
>NCC-2000, but the plates 'NCC 2000' and 'USSXLCR' are already taken!
>Can anyone help me think up some original but obvious way to make the
>reference?

How about the original registry from ST3, which was NX-2000 ?

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From: smithjd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Dumb Question
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:45:07 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

When Picard is assimulated by the Borg, what was he called?  This is a dumb
question but I just can't think of it.


							Jason Smith
							SMITHJD@WKUVX1.BITNET
From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:02:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Lehigh University


theresa@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (Theresa Vaughan) writes:
> >I think "picard" refers to a province in France.
> >
> >
>    As in Picardie? Interesting idea. Anybody know where they got
> Spock from? Or for that matter, the other TOS character names?


1. Nyota Uhuru (or Uhura, depending on the transliteration) is Swahili for
"Star Freedom."

2. Pavel Chekov was the name of Russian playwright Anton Chekhov's father.

3. Sulu is a Filipino (I think) name.  "Hikaru" is Japanese for "Shining One."
   See Vonda Mackintyre's novel _The Entropy Effect_ for more info on this
   one.

4. I think--and this is mostly a guess--that the name of Leonard McCoy comes
   from a short story by Kafka called "Just a Plain Old Country Doctor."
   (or something similar)

That's all I can think of right now.


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
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From: gere@umunhum.stanford.edu (Susan Gere)
Subject: Re: HELP: Gimme Novels!!!!
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:22:31 GMT

rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
 >
 >     And of course I have to mention _Dwellers_in_the_Crucible_.
 > It's not really about "the Big 7" as much as two other characters
 > whom the Enterprise is assigned to rescue...  It's by M.W. Bonanno,
 > and I quite liked it; this is, however, one of those books that some
 > people like, and others *hate*, so your mileage may vary.
 >

 I liked it, and having looked unsuccessfully for someone locally with
whom to trade "her" new hardcover _PROBE_ for my copy of the original 
manuscript (thereafter 90% re-written by DeWeese), I hereby offer it
to the readership at large. (...anyone?)  I like Bonanno's writing though 
it strays from the original bridge crew; perhaps that's a *good* thing. 


Mini review:

 The latest TOS novel, Ice_Trap, is for its kind (disaster story) somehow
not too bad. I don't mind having bought it full price at the airport -
the native people appear to be modeled after northwestern (Eskimo?) earth
culture(s), coincidentally; I was on my way to Seattle. I only really went 
"yeeeeesh" at two plot details, one about McCoy's earlier life which can 
be overlooked.

It "stars" Chekhov, Uhura, Kirk and McCoy.  Contains interesting ethno-
ecology themes; overlooks a deus-ex-machina possibility.  A read-once.


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From: peanuts@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: HOTTEST BABE POLL RESULTS
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:56:31 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

In article <1992Jul24.172917.21465@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen) writes:
> 
> Perhaps the biggest surprise is that Tasha Yar got NO votes!  Apparently,
> taking it all of for Playboy magazine did nothing for her sex appeal.  
> 

Which issue of Playboy was she in? (month and year) What is Yar's real name?

Peanuts@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:08:16 -0400 
From: "Thomas W. Pope" <tp1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Gifs wanted

  I am looking for gifs of the nebula class starships...  The two
episodes that these ships have appeared in were "The Wounded" (USS
Phoenix) and "Redemption II" (USS Sutherland)...  I am also looking
for blueprints/deck plans of any next generation ships, notably the
nebula class and the romulan warbird II class...  Any help would be
appreciated...   

						Tom
						pope@cmu.edu
From: gerlach@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Geordi's Middle Name
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:51:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

In article <chil.712314065@sfu.ca> chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes:

>kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Keith E Gatling) writes:

>>Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what Geordi LaForge's middle name
>>is?

>Geordi has a middle name!? If he has, I'd like to know what it is too.
>Are you sure you're not thinking of Riker. What *does* the "T" in "William
>T. Riker" stand for?

I don't know about Geordi, but Riker's "T" is for Thelonius, as in
jazz great Thelonius Monk.
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'Copkiller.'  The proposed title is 'Don't Y'All Dis Me 'Cause Bubba's
Gonna Rip You a New Ass.'"
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							(7/20/92)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:46:26 EDT
From: Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: In Search Of ST Decals/etc...

Does someone have an address of a co. that sells ST autowindow decals, T's,etc.
Any help appreciated. Thanx.

Michael B. Smith
mbs116@psuvm.psu.edu
DoD# 1428
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From: bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen)
Subject: HOTTEST BABE POLL RESULTS
Reply-To: bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:29:17 GMT


The results of the hottest ST:TNG babe poll are in.  I expected more
voting, given the number of references to this topic, but am ending the
poll after 31 votes because no more votes are coming in.

Votes were accepted for 1 person only (no second place, etc. votes were
tabulated) and for main characters only.  That said, the most often
discussed characters who are not main characters are Minuet and K'Ehylar. 

Perhaps the biggest surprise is that Tasha Yar got NO votes!  Apparently,
taking it all of for Playboy magazine did nothing for her sex appeal.  Goes
to show that you should leave a little to the imagination, I guess.  Also,
Guinan got NO votes, but this is not a big surprise to me, since she has
some pretty good-looking competition.

Other than that, there is one CLEAR winner, and two characters who are
tied.  Guess now, and see below for the final results.





























(Sorry, I don't know how to insert a control L with my new editor yet).

FINAL RESULTS: 
Winner, with 15 votes: that dancing, bow-legged redhead, DR. CRUSHER!!
I like to go swimmin' with bow-legged wimmin.  The crush-meister is my
personal second fave, but I do love red hair.  The better the dancer, the
better the lover.

Second, with 8 votes: "I feel your pain, your lust," TROI!!
Troi got at least one special mention from a Crusher fan, who said that
Troi is even hotter than Crusher when Troi is discussing chocolate.  My
personal guess is that Troi is, um adventurous.  Probably no shortage of
pubic hair.  Wish I could test that theory!  

Third, with 7 votes: is that your real forehead?  ENSIGN RO!!
My personal favorite -- athletic and sleek.  Some voters say she is too
scrawny -- these are the ones who believe that the more the cushion, the
better the pushin.  You guys are wrong, "scrawny" ones make more noise and
have more stamina.  The only female to vote voted for RO.  

There was also one vote for "Beth T, Tasha's sister."

=====================================================================

I'm out of the country for a week, so e-mail me flames or whatever and I'll
have a full mailbox when I get back.  Here's to Star Trek: The Nudist Camp
Chronicles!
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From: tgreen@iastate.edu (Todd Greenfield)
Subject: Star Trek video games
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:14:48 GMT

Does anyone have a complete list of star trek related video
games (any system & arcade).  I remember an arcade game
that was pretty good, and would like to get a version of
it for either nintendo, ibm, or even atari 8bit.  I've
also heard of a "25th aniversary game" - what's that like?

I'd really like a version of the old arcade game, though.
It was a vector graphics game, I think, with the screen
split into 2 or 3 sections (it been a long time).

any info will be appreciated.

Todd
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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: SOUNDS GOOD TO ME--ST 7 idea
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:19:26 GMT

joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR) writes:

>From zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)


>Yes.  I saw an interview with Nicholas Meyer and some Paramount guy and
>they are definitely going ahead with the original idea for STVI.......
>The Academy Days.  Casting has already begun and it looks like
>Christian Slater may play Kirk, Robert Downey Jr. may play Mcy,
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                 Angels and ministers of grace defend us.
   I cannot possibly imagine a worse person to put into
   a trek film (or any film for that matter).  Somebody
   please tell me this is a (very) bad joke...

>Kirk will be quite UNLUCKY with the ladies.  The character of Scotty
                    ^^^^^^^
                           This would be a refreshing change.

>They also promise a really steamy Pon Far, something they couldn't
>(and shouldn't) show us with Nimoy nowadays.

   And something which they shouldn't show with anyone else either.

>When the Academy Days idea first came up, it was for saving money
>primarily by hiring unknowns to play the crew.  With the big
>success of STVI, they can now afford to hire well known actors
>and draw in a huge crowd of non-Star Trek fans too as well as
>the die-hards who'll see anything with the name Star Trek 
>attached to it.

   I used to think I was in the latter category (people who
will watch anything labeled Star Trek), but I'm beginning 
to have *serious* doubts...

RC Carman


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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Data is more human than you think.
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 21:29:33 GMT



IMHO, Data seems to act very much like a human.  He has many (subtle)
inflections in his speech as well as head movements.  Yet they are
constantly saying that Data has no emotions or feelings.  I don't
know if it's due to the acting or the directing, but Data (IHMO)
definitely expresses emotions and feelings.  Watch him frown, listen
to him say *Hum* and till his head the next time he has to think.

Am I all wet?  I eagerly await comments/flames from the net. :-)  Data out.

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From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: The new season start date is...
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:23:47 GMT
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


The TENTATIVE season start date is the week of Sept. 21 - 27.  I know
I posted this same message not that long ago.

Charles Gibbs
gibbsc@ac.grin.edu
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