From: robinson@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: Hunters Needed
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:05:19 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Sep28.223431.4626@convex.com>, jjohnson@convex.com (Jenifer L. Johnson) writes:
> 
> 
> Jeff Achenbach writes:
> 
>> 
>>              HUNTERS and ANTI-ANIMAL RIGHTISTS
>>      The Fund For Animals invites YOU to the third Bi-Annual
>>              TEXAS CONFERENCE FOR THE ANIMALS
>> 
>>Perhaps your fondest dream:  Get Ingrid Newkirk and Wayne Pacelle in the
>>crosshairs for a debate!
>> 
>>               SUBJECT:  Sport Hunting
>> 
>>When:   Friday evening, October 2 at 8:00 P.M.  (Kicking off the
>>                                                    Conference)
>> Where:  Austin, Texas at Red Lion Hotel
>> 
>>The public is invited to this event.  However, as of this posting, no one has
>>stepped forward to take them on in public - _even_ after a comprehensive
>>search.  Furthermore, several hunting advocates have backed out of the debate
>>after first accepting the invitation.
>> 
> 
>>>Don't they know Oct. 1 is opening day of bow season? Also small game? You
>>>really think hunters are going to go see these folks instead of going out
>>>in the woods?
> 
> This event was scheduled to coincide with the Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept.'s
> Hunting Expo, also in Austin next weekend.  According to an article in
> yesterday's Dallas Morning News, ~700 hunters were registered for the TP&W
> awards banquet.  That means that at least 700 hunters have chosen to be at the
> Expo rather than in the woods on the opening day of bow season.

And they've chosen the Expo over this silly fundraiser disguised as a 
debate.  Big surprise there.

> 
> Included in those 700 are Ted Nugent, self-proclaimed hunting advocate, George
> W. Bush, and Nolan Ryan.  The Morning News article said that Nugent will be
> performing a 30-minute mini-concert to attract attention to his anti-drug,
> pro-hunting message directed at kids, and quoted Nugent as saying, "The kids
> listen to me because I play rock n' roll, and I speak the truth with great
> passion.  It works like magic."
> 
> If Nugent believes his message "works like magic," then why does he refuse to
> participate in the FoA debate?  It's certainly not because he's going to be
> busy bowhunting that day.
> 
> So what`s the real reason we can't find even two hunters out of the bunch who
> are willing to test their views against two members of the opposition?  If the
> leaders of the AR movement are simply disseminators of misinformation,
> wouldn't this be a wonderful opportunity for those level-headed hunters to
> give us the facts?  Or are hunters afraid to test beliefs based largely on
> tradition and myth against the well-founded arguments of Ingrid and Wayne?
> 
> I'll be in Austin for the Conference and for the debate, so I can post a
> followup as to whether any of those ~700 noble, level-headed hunters could
> muster the conviction and the courage to stand up to a bunch of gullible,
> Bambi-worshipping vegetarians.  My guess is that the hunters will prove
> themselves to be the cowards we AR folks suspect they are.

I suspect it has a lot more to do with the fact that not one respectable 
hunter I know would willing give even a fraction of a cent to an 
organization such as FoA, let alone $80.00.  Get real, you're going to
have to finance your own cause.  

> 
> -- 
>  Jennifer L. Johnson | "Those who kill animals for food will be more prone 
>  jjohnson@convex.com |  than vegetarians to torture and kill their fellow
> 	IWTFM	     |  men."  		--Pythagoras 


-- 
John Robinson                  Only criminals, tyrants, and cowards have
robinson@ac.dal.ca                 reason to fear the armed, honest citizen.
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