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From: grogers@zeus.calpoly.edu (Gary Ray Rogers)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Headhunters wanted.
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:16:38 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Friends,
	I am looking for names, addresses, and phone numbers
of recruiters / headhunters in the materials engineering field.  Hopefully
in the west coast or mountain states.  Please e-mail to this
address and I will post all of them at once.
Thanks
Gary Ray Rogers


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Gary Ray Rogers			(805) 544-4321
PO Box 12909
San Luis Obispo, CA 93406		
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From: bible@iastate.edu (Anthony E Bible)
Subject: Re: Living Cost Index
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:30:39 GMT

In article <la9vqdINN41h@aludra.usc.edu> kalam@usc.edu (Kamran Alam) writes:
>Is there any information out there on  LIVING COST INDEX in the U.S.
>cities? It would be helpful for some of us who are relocating and
>negotiating over our salaries. Any info would be helpful.
>

	There is a survey done by the Chamber of Commerce in a number of cities around
the country that may be available in your library.  I don't recall what the letters stand
for, but the name of the pub is ACCRA.  They list an index value for each city surveyed,
but they also list the details of the survey.  Questions consist of prices for things
like a Big Mac, a loaf of bread, a bottle of Paul Masson chablis, apartment rent, housing
cost for a particular size hous, price of gasoline, etc.  It may be of some use to you.

Regards,
tony
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From: skrenta@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rich Skrenta)
Subject: Re: Gaining system administration skills
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:27:21 GMT

brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson) writes:
>  Can the basic system administration skills learned be carried to
> another job with a different flavor of Unix?

Yes.  There are always system specific things you need to know, but
there are far more things which are common from system to system.  Some
knowlege is even common among different OS's, such as VMS and Unix.

> If I learned solid admin
> skills under SCO Xenix, could I effectively take a job in a few years
> as a Sun OS admin?  I'm asking because I'm a little worried that the
> skills learned under Xenix may not apply directly to other variations
> of Unix.  What say you all?  Any sys admins listening?

trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
>     *Probably* pretty doubtful.  First of all, Xenix is a loooong way from
> a much more sophisticated system like SunOS.

I don't think it's all that different.  Sure, there will be some new
features.  But I believe recent SCO offerings have X and NFS.

The difference between not knowing anything about system administration
and being a compentent SCO XENIX admin is far greater than the difference
between knowing Xenix and SunOS.  An experienced VMS admin has a big
head start on someone who doesn't know anything about system adminstration.

Getting by the HR keyword-scanners is another matter.  To solve that
problem I'd pick up a used Sun for < $1K in misc.forsale.computers and
hack on it at home.  Presto:  SunOS experience.

--
Rich Skrenta
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From: mparanan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Muralidhar Paranandi)
Subject: Re: Living Cost Index
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:54:28 GMT

In article <la9vqdINN41h@aludra.usc.edu> kalam@usc.edu (Kamran Alam) writes:
>IS THERE ANY INFORMATION OUT THERE ON  LIVING COST INDEX IN THE U.S.
>CITIES? IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR SOME OF US WHO ARE RELOCATING AND
>NEGOTIATING OVER OUR SALARIES. ANY INFO WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I remember seeing a listing of a similar thing in a magazine called "Young
Executive" in a local Grocery Store about 4 months ago.  You may want to try
your local library (now that its too late to try your area grocery store).  
Things I remember are as follows: 

They compared standard anywhere in U.S. $30,000 to its equivalent value in 
various other cities.  

	Dallas was the cheapest.   			$28,000
	San Fransisco was the most expensive.		$52,000

If I remember it right, they have compared cost of living in 10 major U.S. 
cities.  Hope this helps.

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From: planius@ips104.desy.de (P. Lanius)
Subject: Info on IBM R&D labs wanted. Please help.
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron, Hamburg, Germany.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:01:35 GMT

Hi everybody,

I'm a Ph.D student in high energy physics and want to learn about 
possibilities to work in R&D after finishing my thesis. I'ld like 
to go abroad for 2-3 yrs. but not in the high energy physics field.
The first thing that came up to my mind are the IBM labs at _York-
town Height_ and _Zurich_. Could some kind soul help me with the
following questions:

1) What is the actual employment situation at these labs? Do they
   accept new employers at all?

2) Is it usual to work there for a few years? Are there any restrictions
   for foreigners?

3) What salaries do they pay?

4) What are the preferred research fields of physicists working there? 
   Is it only a field for solid state physicists?

5) What is the work environment like? Is it more conservative than in
   smaller companies?

6) Both labs have quite a good reputation here in Germany. And what is
   the matter in fact?

Please post or e-mail to planius@ips102.desy.de (different from posting host!)
Thanks for your help,
Peter

Ah..., I'm definitely not a world champion speller :-(
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From: aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelyn Aldridge)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: RELOCATION:  Do companies still provide it?
Keywords: relocation
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:09:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


	As far as I know the companies are still paying for relocation. If
they don't pay you will have to cost it in as recieving that amount less in
your first year's paycheck. 
	Recruiters can be like real estate agents. Sometimes overly anxious
to make the sale.
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From: gregg@ncsu.b24a.ingr.com ()
Subject: North Carolina Recruiters
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:59:18 GMT

Hello,

I heard through the grapevine that someone has recently either posted or
requested a list of technical recruiters for the Research Triangle
Park/Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill, NC area.

Could some kind soul email this list to me?

Many thanks
-- 

*************************
GREGG PHILLIPS 
gregg@ncsu.b24a.ingr.com
From: brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Gaining system administration skills
Date: 1 Sep 1992 00:08:28 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

  I'll soon be starting another job which requires me to learn sys.
admin. skills under SCO Xenix.  I've posted a similar question to the
appropriate groups but thought maybe someone here had another opinion.

  Can the basic system administration skills learned be carried to
another job with a different flavor of Unix?  If I learned solid admin
skills under SCO Xenix, could I effectively take a job in a few years
as a Sun OS admin?  I'm asking because I'm a little worried that the
skills learned under Xenix may not apply directly to other variations
of Unix.  What say you all?  Any sys admins listening?

-=- Brett
-- 
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  ==================================================================
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From: rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko)
Subject: Re: Questions about AMS Inc.
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:07:21 GMT


    	Hello all,	

	I would like to find out as much information as possible 
	on the Arlington, Va based company American Manufacturing
	Systems Inc.  I know that they have recently been awarded 
	several accounts with telecommunications firms like Sprint and 
	Bell Atlantic, but what area of software do they specialize in?
	Are they similar to companies like EDS and Arthur Anderson?
	What type job opportunities do they have for entry level
	programmers?  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Email or
	posting to this group will be fine.

	Bob Opalko
	Graduate Instructor
	University of Mississippi

	Home address:
	811 #1 Lincoln Ave.
	Oxford MS 38655

	email:
	rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu	



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From: smith_m@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: Step for a new career
Organization: UMS
Date: 31 AUG 92 08:24:25 MST

Greetings
Greetings
From: REKHI@PURCCVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: purdue.cc.general,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Need a Fortran Programmer
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:11:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Need a Fortran Programmer to do Marketing related data base analysis. Please
contact Professor Manu Kalwani at 494-4400 or Kalwani@purccvm.
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From: witte@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Breck Witte)
Subject: Microcomputer support position
Reply-To: witte@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Breck Witte)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:18:18 GMT


The CU Library Systems Office seeks a part-time microcomputer 
support specialist to install and troubleshoot microcomputer 
hardware, software and peripherals.  Solid experience in DOS-based 
microcomputer maintenance and operations required.  Modem/ROLM 
communications experience desirable.  dBase and/or programming 
experience a plus.    Good human relations skills needed.  20 
hours per week; regular schedule preferred.  Temporary position, 
available through June 1993.  $15 per hour.

Please send resume and references to:

        Nancy Long
        Personnel Office
        213 Butler Library
        Columbia University Library
        New York, NY 10027

--> Please do NOT respond to this account.  Thank you.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 11:23:44 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: How to quit after 2 weeks?
Distribution: usa
 <31AUG199208084514@rover.uchicago.edu>

   Add my vote for staying (at least the probationary period) and explaining
to the #1 choice:

   "Well, I really wanted to work for you, etc...  Maybe if things
    don't work out at the job I accepted..."   You get the point...

   Besides, if they really were that slow on getting back to you, it
may represent a generally slothy approach to personel.  I'd give the
company at least 6 months (unless job #3 is really undesireable -
then I'd scoot boots!).  You may well decide the first impression
wasn't so valid.

   If there are other details you don't want made readable to these
(prospective) employers, e-mail me & I'll give a more informed opinion
and/or ear to sort it out on.
   Jeff Andle
   U. Maine & BIODE, Inc.  Because 2 checks R better than 1!
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Taking a job on prospects/hopes of transfer?
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:40:11 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)


Here's an interesting situation that I can't seem to answer for a
friend who approached me for counsel earlier this week ... she has
been offered a position in a fantastic company, but it's located in 
an area where she and her husband don't want to stay on the longterm.
Now, it'd be all right for her to stay for an extra couple of years
(say, 4) while her husband finishes his recently-started dissertation
in law history (and he can work out of another campus of his state
university by her work site, so they can move and live together) ...
however, their longterm plans have been to move out to the West Coast
and while this firm has divisions in both northern and southern
California doing the same kind of work, insiders have warned her that
the transfer environment is tight.  This is the kind of company that
people like to stay with for a long time, otherwise the prospect of
leaving after four years would not play such a part in her mind;
getting this same job in their L.A. division is not realistic today
(otherwise they would jump at bottom-feeding on the collapsed housing
market there), and this is just not the time for people to be picky
especially if they're presented with a plum ... has anybody come
across this situation before, or can see clearly if it were them?

My own thoughts have been:

1. Worry again after the husband graduates; meantime, the wife should
move her career forward here for the time being with this opportunity.

2. People have left this firm and done very well; many are famous.
It won't be the end of the world, and she can leave on good terms.

By the way, this job is in the entertainment industry but would be
applicable in certain cases to high tech, too.

gld
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From: jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston)
Subject: Re: How to quit after 2 weeks?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:46:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.200257.13660@iitmax.iit.edu>, chinkev@elof.iit.edu (Kevin A. Chin) writes:
|> 
|> My #3 choice for employment gave me an offer, I accepted.
|> (After waiting ~ month for other responses from #1 and 2.)
|> Then my #1 choice offered me a position, how should I
|> handle this? I am somewhat hestitant to quit (guilty) after 
|> they have spent these 2 weeks training me? I think I would
|> like to change positions without burning too many bridges.


I've been in this situation before. Your best bet is to be straightforward
with you current employer, and don't look back. They may get mad and ask
you to leave, don't let this bother you. You'll regret it if you don't
take #1.   
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Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov
From: sandya@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com (Sandy A)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 23:29:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Advice/CS major w/ bad grades
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc

> I am thinking of becoming a technical writter.

Does anyone else find this sentence pretty funny?
From: susan@falcon5.ericsson.se (Susan Cohen)
Subject: Portland Headhunters
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:41:21 GMT

I'm looking for names& numbers of
headhunters in Portland, Oregon.
If you can help me, please send 
e-mail.

Thanks,

Susan Cohen
susan@beppe.ericsson.se

--
Susan J. Cohen  susan@beppe.ericsson.se [Enclosed opinions are mine alone]
Ericsson Telecom AB, 126 25 Stockholm, Sweden
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From: kenw@ssd.kodak.com (Ken Wieschhoff)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Need a Fortran Programmer
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:15:22 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0


>Need a Fortran Programmer to do Marketing related data base analysis.
Please
>contact Professor Manu Kalwani at 494-4400 or Kalwani@purccvm.

Not even an area code!  Where's "purccvm"?

Kenneth H. Wieschhoff, Jr.	
(716)426-3317(w)		
kenw@ssd.kodak.com
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 11:29:38 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: WANTED: Portland, ME. Headhunters
Distribution: na
 <1992Aug31.022458.14235@psg.com> <1992Aug31.212508.17346@csi.uottawa.ca>

   sorry to steal a subject line, but I want headhunters and/or Engineering
Temp agencies between Portland and Augusta, Maine...
   Reply via e-mail pls. to Jeff Andle   REE700A@Maine.maine.edu
                                   or    REE700A@MAINE (Bitnet)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Reply-To: cjb@vega.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:14:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.084429.25919@weyrich.UUCP> orville%weyrich@tnet.com  
(Orville R. Weyrich) writes:
> 
> To me it is really an issue of individualism versus government-mandated
> one-size-fits all regulation. Each individual can negotiate for their  
desired
> amount (and distribution) of vacation time. Lest you scoff,

But verily, scoff I do.
Its clear you have well articulted, strongly held and coherently defended  
beliefs, but I have been getting the equally strong impression that they  
are grounded more in theoretical and ideological premises than in actual,  
immediate, direct, personal experience.  My experience, and the experience  
of every single person I know, leads me to the unavoidable conclusion that  
with the exception of the very rare genuine "guru" (not the  
self-proclaimed or wanna-be variety) one has very little leverage at all  
in negotiations, particularly in recent years.  Its take-it-or-leave-it.  
When I first came to the US 11 years ago I had quite different beliefs,  
based entirely (I realise now, alas too late) on propaganda and  
idealisations.  Prior to my arrival my politics had been wishy-washy  
middle-of-the-road.  Yet in stepping off the plane at Los Angeles, without  
undergoing any change of mind or heart, I instantly found myself well to  
the left of the Democrats. It took me a while to figure out what had  
happened. Answer -- I'd moved to a radically different culture without  
realising it.  So my encounter with reality, as opposed to idealisation,  
was very painful indeed and I was forced to re-examine most of my beliefs.
As I said in an earlier poster, it is my very strong impression that  
"freedom" and "choice" as used in this culture have to do very largely  
with consumerism and that freedom and choice insofar as the important  
things are concerned are exceedingly limited and available only to a very  
few.  It certainly cannot be said to characterise the culture, but seems  
rather to define an aristocracy.  And as regards employment, its just a  
simple matter of he who has the power calls the tune.

> The right of the individual to set his/her own priorites must be  
preserved

We agree on that, to be sure.  But I am concerned about the actual reality  
of the matter and I suspect its probably an impossible thing to do while  
preserving a functioning society. Hence, humane compromises are needed.

> If everyone in the country simply told employers "we won't work for you  
unless you give us a month of vacation"

Which planet was it you said you lived on?
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From: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges)
Subject: Great Good CEOs...NOT ( was: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:35:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.203019.11064@weyrich.UUCP> tnet.com!weyrich!orville writes:
>
>Talk to CEO's about it. If you can make a good case and back it up with 
>facts, I'm sure they will be all ears. 

Orville, rent Roger and Me, please.  CEOs don't like to talk to working
people like you and me because we have a tendency to ask unpleasant
questions (like "why you make so much money, man? company's closin' the
plant!").  Please also read William Bulkeley's article in the Wall
Street Journal for 8/19/92: he describes how Wang is failing precisely
because its suits did not listen to its technicians when they proposed
upgrading Wang minicomputer software to be compatible with PC and
workstation software.  Instead, Rich Miller used a remarkably
shortsighted, fiscal strategy of pressuring customers for a variety of
steep licensing fees for out-of-date mini hardware/software which caused
Wang to rapidly lose its technological edge and ALSO alienated
customers.  

Miller, like many CEOs before him, paid attention only to what could be
measured in the short term.  Bulkeley's article is titled "Filing in
Chapter 11, Wang Sends a Warning to High-Tech Circles" and it's on page
1.

And, of course, the crowning injustice is that Rich Miller will depart
Wang with a golden parachute whereas the very technicians who could have
developed Wang workalikes for the software they had on their home
systems are now using those home systems to send out thousands of
resumes.

You assume that CEOs' performance is so coupled with their reward that
they will be 100% motivated to do a good job.  The two major problems
with this are the excessively short-term focus of American CEOs, and the
fact that they negotiate risk out of their employment contracts, such
that they never suffer when their performance is poor.  Their conduct
will not necessarily be in the long-term best interests of the company,
and Miller's conduct at Wang demonstrates this.




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From: REKHI@PURCCVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: purdue.cc.general,misc.jobs.misc,purdue.general
Subject: Need a Fortran Programmer
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:01:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Need a Fortran Programmer for analysis of marketing data. Please contact
Professor Manu Kalwani at Kalwani@purccvm or call 494-4400.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: sonic@romulus.cray.com (Curtis Swanson)
Subject: Re: Need Advice/CS major w/ bad grades
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:32:27 CDT


In article <183300@pyramid.pyramid.com>, lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
> 
>     
>     [some misguided soul wrote...]
> >
> >> > I am thinking of becoming a technical writter.
> >> 
> >In article <90750003@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com>, sandya@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com (Sandy A) writes:
> >> Does anyone else find this sentence pretty funny?
> >> 
> In article <1992Aug27.142031.8106@walter.cray.com> sonic@romulus.cray.com (Curtis Swanson) writes:
> >
> >With the various types of keyboards on the market and varying quality
> >thereof, no.  I miss a lot of extra letters added to my posts as well....
> >
>    But if you were "thinking of becoming a tech writter [sic]",
>    wouldn't you CORRECT the !@#$!@#$ posting before making it
>    public?
> 
>    Engineers are infamous for poorly formatted and sloppy
>    resumes....but I certainly would expect an applicant for a tech
>    writer to be capable of producing a dazzling correctly spelled
>    resume...

Yes and rightly so.  However, there is a difference between a resume and a
request for info posting.  I always proofread my posts but I still make
mistakes.  Also, there is not an easy way to spell-check my postings with 
this news-reader software.  When it matters, I do use it.  When it doesn't,
I don't.

To be honest to Sandy A., yes, I did find it funny.  But I decided to the 
original poster the benefit of the doubt....
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