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From: news@access.usask.ca (USENET News System)
Subject: UofS NNTP summary Mon Nov 16 00:03:02 CST 1992
Organization: University of Saskatchewan Gateway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:05:13 GMT


NNTP peer article transfers

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Newsgroups: can.canet.stats,tor.news.stats
From: news@torn.onet.on.ca (News)
Subject: torn news summary, Nov 22 1992
Original-Message-Id: <92Nov22.081207est.57844@torn.onet.on.ca>
Original-To: news-reports
Distribution: can
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:12:02 GMT

News log summary from Nov 21 07:10:31 to Nov 22 07:07:13

Sitename              Accept Reject Junked I-Have Sendme   Total    Sent
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: can.canet.stats,tor.news.stats
From: news@torn.onet.on.ca (News)
Subject: torn news summary, Nov 19 1992
Original-Message-Id: <92Nov19.081615est.58120@torn.onet.on.ca>
Original-To: news-reports
Distribution: can
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:16:08 GMT

News log summary from Nov 18 07:10:20 to Nov 19 07:07:12

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------------------------------------------------------------------------
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thunder                    4      .      .      .      .       4   18065
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sis                        .      .      .      .      .       .   24628
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gonzo.cs.uoguelph.ca       .      .      .      .      .       .   13904
cdf.toronto.edu            .      .      .      .      .       .    4941
TALLY                      .      .      .      .      .       .   24845
             Totals:   24942   1271   2107      .      .   28320  470865

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: root@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Operator)
Subject: UofNB NNTP summary
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:11:51 GMT

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Newsgroups: can.politics
From: tdwebste@sparta.uwaterloo.ca (Timothy D. Webster)
Subject: Re: Jean Chretien
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:32:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.164827.6284@cerberus.ulaval.ca> plahaie@gel.ulaval.ca writes:
>
>Christopher Browne wwrote that:
>
>>You're certainly lumping all of the "evil francophones" in one pile.
>>There ARE some differences between Parizeau and Chretien.  (Parizeau
>>speaks more fluent English than Chretien, for one thing :-)).
>
>Jean Chretien does not speak  the french language much better than he speaks english
>so we could ask questions about what he could be able to think.  My opinion is that
>he will be a puppet at the sevice of someone else (not known by everyone).  
>If you want to live in a free country do not vote for that muppet.

So what magget, I meen muppet do you suggest? I am not going to vote
communist (NDP). We have seen what the Tories can do. Should I vote for
the Reform Party? I don't think so! The Bloc de Quebecios? My neighbours
would kill me if they found out. That is if I didn't kill myself first.

If Chretien has any good qualities, it is that you can't accuss him of
talking out of both sides of his mouth at once. :-)

-Tim.
Newsgroups: can.politics
From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross)
Subject: Re: Thank You Mr. Clark was Re: The partition of Quebec (from an APEC pamphlet)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:59:14 GMT

grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
: 
: Since this fact was recognized and provided for in the BNA act, I do not
: see how Clark's proposals are any revelation. However Clark tipped the
: balance. The effect of his ideas is to promote regionalism and isolation.
: [...]
: 
: The pan-Canadian myth now seems to be that your region, group whatever
: is exploited by its neighbours. Such a myth can only bring hardship.
: Now the political entity of Canada is not important. If Canada can provide
: a way for people to live in peace it should continue. However if Canada becomes
: a way of objectifying your neighbour, it should not and will not survive.
: The tragedy will be that the hatreds produced will live on long after
: the demise of Canada.

Perhaps the reason that this regionalism/ethnicism is new to you is because
you've lived in relative ignorance of it, perhaps in the comfortable
confines of Toronto.  However, as Ross and I have been saying, it is far
from new, but perhaps is being finally perceived by those who were under
the false sense of security that the Trudeau years gave to southern
Ontariopudlians.  Clark and Mulroney are hardly the engineers of this
malaise. 

Given that this "national attidude" has been developing for generations,
what is perhaps needed is a fix to the federal institutions.
Hey -- a constitutional accord!  That's the ticket.

-- 
Brian Ross                         "How do we arrange lures in our tackle box?
bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca     From left to right, according to size and 
                                    frequency of use." -- Anal-Retentive Chef.
Newsgroups: can.politics
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Subject: Agreeing with Qc nationalists?
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:00:42 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 450

What's happening?

I found myself agreeing with both Denis and Francois today.

What's happening? :-)


I can't say the same for Normand! :-(




-- 
  ///==================================================================\\\
  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
Newsgroups: can.politics
From: aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler)
Subject: Re: Reform Party vs Quebec (was Reform Party)
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:26:51 GMT

robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson) writes:

>>When Preston denounces so-called two-founding nation policies, what he is 
>>really saying is that the French language means nothing, either in Ottawa,
>>or Quebec or the rest of Caada. That ultimately he wants what the PC party used
>>to want: a "bilingual" English-dominated Quebec in an official English only
>>Canada. French commmunities outside Quebec are already doomed to extinction.
>>When Preston goes to work... watch as Preston and the Reform party try to do
>>the same thing to Quebecers. 30 years of reform in Quebec flushed down the
>>toilet by the racist Reform party.

>As I understand it, Manning would implement a Swiss style language policy;
>i.e., each province, *including Quebec*, would be free to deal with
>language as it saw fit. This would not result in an English dominated
>Quebec by any stretch of the imagination. 
>-- 

The Reform Party would see French and English services
equally in the national Canadian institutions, Parliament, etc.
and federal services in either language in regions
where numbers warrant.

Provinces would determine what languages they use to
communicate with their citizens (as in the Swiss model
mentioned).  

Beyond that, the responsibility for nuturing language
and culture rests with individuals.  If these values are
important to people, they will sustain them.

These policies are not "racist" in the slightest.  They
do shake the foundations of the entrenched multi-cultural 
movement, however.

A IDLER
Newsgroups: can.politics
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:29:21 EST
From: andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: Hurtig's New Party
Distribution: can
 <1992Nov23.053247.4819@mdivax1.uucp>

One poster seems to gloat that Hurtig will siphon off votes from the NDP.
Perhaps, but you forget there is a left canadian nationalist wing to the
Liberal Party (hurtig is an ex-Liberal) that is as likely to be attracted
to Hurtig, especially if the Liberals don't commit to scrapping Free Trade
and if Chretien's performance during an election campaign is lack-lustre
and uninspiring (as his performance thus far as Liberal leader would suggest)

Hurtig may well win a few seats in the West in ridings with 4 or 5 way races.
Anyone thinking a strong Hurtig party would not hurt the Liberals as well as
the NDP is dreaming. It's more likely though that he wouldn't get more than
2 or 3% in an election but with elections as volatile as they've been the past
few years, you never know.
Xref: sparky can.politics:9845 soc.culture.canada:8684
From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Newsgroups: can.politics,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Virginie's TV violence petition
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:45:15 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ont, London

In article <Bxz3xn.1zu@DMI.USherb.CA>, paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (Nick) writes:
> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque) a ecrit:
>>
>>     I always get suspicious when children get involved in political 
>>campaigns. I look at some of the kids at the anti-abortion rallies and
>>wonder if their parents didn't put them up to it or brainwash them that
>>going to those rallies was a fundamentally good thing. Which brings me
>>back to Virginie.
> 
> So do I...
> 
>>
>>     According to her petition (which apparantly 1 million morons signed),
>>tv is responsible for North American violence. Her elder sister was the
>>victim of a violent crime, and according to Virginie, TV is responsible.
>>Bullshit!
>>
>>     Little Virginie is Quebecois. While that shouldn't change the scope of
>>debate I think a few facts should be brought into the open. Quebecois have
>>more European attitudes towards North America's OTHER great phobia... SEX.
>>In Montreal few people would go to war over sexy signs advertising "danseuses
>>nues" (that doesn't include City Council). Few people complain about the 
>>amount of sex in programs like Lance et Compte or Les Filles de Caleb (which
>>had a record 3 million audience watching one night). If you told a Quebecer
>>that sexy signs or a near naked Mitsou causes men to go and rape women, they
>>would laugh in your face. So why the f**k would people make the
>>same infantile conclusion regarding violence on TV.
> 
> Is sex scenes suppossed to be violent????
> 
>>     I would suggest to all the morons who signed the petition to stop blaming
>>an entertainment medium for all the REAL problems on the planet. I would 
>>suggest that they supply REAL solutions, and not blame the fictionalized
>>emacsculated violence of the small screen.
> 
> It's not because you don't have any effects on violence that everybody
> is like you! Face it there's a lot of weirdos out there and God knows
> what they can do when they see images of an heros who's shooting
> everybody???? 
> 
>>
>>     No, and anybody who thinks otherwise is ignoring the real causes
>>of violence in North America. 
> 
> witch is????
> 
> -- 
> 						Nick
>   - Ce n'est pas parce qu'une rumeur ne tient   
>      pas debout... qu'elle ne peut courir !    
-- 

John P. LaRocque
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apologies accepted, Captian Nida", Darth Vader
Xref: sparky can.politics:9784 soc.culture.canada:8604
From: grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray)
Newsgroups: can.politics,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Americans on English schools in Quebec (Was: Quebec)
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:35:16 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Nov16.214602.29124@cerberus.ulaval.ca> duquet@astro.phy.ulaval.ca (Jean-Remi Duquet) writes:
>
>Oh! Maybe THAT's what an English-Canadian means when (s)he says french
>language flourish in Canada... Well that explains why franco-TROCians 
>have some problems getting extra (meaning more than 0 ???) schools. :)
>


Now here is another example for the "Thank You Mr. Clark" file.
This person is a perfect example (as if we needed another after
Beauregard and Shuck) of someone living in ignorant certainty.

The French school system which we have here in Ottawa doesn't exist.
It cannot exist becasue all those damn anglo's hate french.

Well his paranoid fantasy is incorrect. His ignorance is easily exposed.
However it is contagious and can cause turmoil in the lives of innocent
people for years to come.

Now M. Duquet, what evidence (beyond your own fantasies) do you have for 
stating that there are (0 ??) french schools outside of Quebec. Maybe this
is just evidence that reveals something of you rather than about Canada.



-- 
i.sinature
Newsgroups: can.politics,soc.culture.canada
From: paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (Nick)
Subject: Re: Virginie's TV violence petition
Organization: Ascot Boyz - ANS Reader - BB #1
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:15:22 GMT

4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque) a ecrit:
>
>     I always get suspicious when children get involved in political 
>campaigns. I look at some of the kids at the anti-abortion rallies and
>wonder if their parents didn't put them up to it or brainwash them that
>going to those rallies was a fundamentally good thing. Which brings me
>back to Virginie.

So do I...

>
>     According to her petition (which apparantly 1 million morons signed),
>tv is responsible for North American violence. Her elder sister was the
>victim of a violent crime, and according to Virginie, TV is responsible.
>Bullshit!
>
>     Little Virginie is Quebecois. While that shouldn't change the scope of
>debate I think a few facts should be brought into the open. Quebecois have
>more European attitudes towards North America's OTHER great phobia... SEX.
>In Montreal few people would go to war over sexy signs advertising "danseuses
>nues" (that doesn't include City Council). Few people complain about the 
>amount of sex in programs like Lance et Compte or Les Filles de Caleb (which
>had a record 3 million audience watching one night). If you told a Quebecer
>that sexy signs or a near naked Mitsou causes men to go and rape women, they
>would laugh in your face. So why the f**k would people make the
>same infantile conclusion regarding violence on TV.

Is sex scenes suppossed to be violent????

>     I would suggest to all the morons who signed the petition to stop blaming
>an entertainment medium for all the REAL problems on the planet. I would 
>suggest that they supply REAL solutions, and not blame the fictionalized
>emacsculated violence of the small screen.

It's not because you don't have any effects on violence that everybody
is like you! Face it there's a lot of weirdos out there and God knows
what they can do when they see images of an heros who's shooting
everybody???? 

>
>     No, and anybody who thinks otherwise is ignoring the real causes
>of violence in North America. 

witch is????

-- 
						Nick
  - Ce n'est pas parce qu'une rumeur ne tient   
     pas debout... qu'elle ne peut courir !    
Newsgroups: can.politics
From: svanegmo@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Stephen Van Egmond)
Subject: Re: Defending Jean Chretien
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:24:21 GMT

I have serious doubts about Jean Chretien's abilities to manage this country.
He has not demonstrated very many democratic traits of late, and does not
seem like the type of person to give strong leadership.

Need I point out to you the recent fiasco he's been having blow up in his face
lately?  He was given powers by the party to appoint candidates in ridings,
circumnavigating the entire riding-association process for determining 
candidates.  Does that seem like a champion of democracy to you?  Does that
sound like someone who is inclined to give party members, rather than 5-star
candidates his ear?

Newsgroups: can.politics,soc.culture.canada,can.followup
From: plahaie@gel.ulaval.ca (Pierre Lahaie)
Subject: Jean Chretien
Reply-To: plahaie@gel.ulaval.ca
Organization: Dept. Genie Electrique, Universite Laval
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:48:27 GMT


Christopher Browne wwrote that:

>You're certainly lumping all of the "evil francophones" in one pile.
>There ARE some differences between Parizeau and Chretien.  (Parizeau
>speaks more fluent English than Chretien, for one thing :-)).

Jean Chretien does not speak  the french language much better than he speaks english
so we could ask questions about what he could be able to think.  My opinion is that
he will be a puppet at the sevice of someone else (not known by everyone).  
If you want to live in a free country do not vote for that muppet.


Pierre Lahaie
plahaie@gel.ulaval.ca
Newsgroups: can.politics