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From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Upcoming Seattle rave??
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:29:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Supposedly, there's one coming Sept. 26th.  I haven't heard anything mroe about it other than the info line #.

Who's putting it on?  Is it gonna be like the Orpheum/Basic/Experience rave last month?  How much will it set me back should I decide to attend?

Grazzi on all your help.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: st10t@rosie.uh.edu (Bloo Square)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.190529.712@uwm.edu>, aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider) writes...
>lombardo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Marc Lombardo) writes:
>: Would someone give me some ideas and tips on mixing music without using
>: a record player?  I would like to avoid using vinyl as much as possible
> 
>I think the main prob with mixing without turntables & vinyl is that you
>can't control the speed of a CD.  Even if you could the digitals wouldn''t
>do the same thing with the pitch(es) that you would want.  Any mixing that's
>done involves slowing/speeding up of the LP to get the tempos synced ...
>CD's just don't hack it.  UNLESS... you would sample the entire song and
>slow it down this way.  Trouble is this takes mega/terrabytes of memory of
>you're going have any semblance of a repertoire of music.
> 
> 
>Steve J. White		|	Reality is for those who can't handle	|
>aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu|	roleplaying games.			|
>skeptic@large@9600bps	|		- t-shirt at GenCon		|

Whoa!!  Slow down..  All the CD mixers I mentioned i the previous
message HAVE PITCH CONTROL.  That's what CD "mixer" means.

They've been around for a few years, if you didn't know.

Another tips on mixing:  When changing the speed of a CD or record,
the pitch changes, thus the key of the song changes.
In my mixing, I like mixing things (songs/sounds) which go together
(as in same key, or progressive key), and of course, keeping the
same bpm (beats per minute) sync'ed.

You just have to know your songs...  when you hear a certain melody,
try to imagine what other songs have a similar sound.
This is a lot easier with beats, however, than melodies.
Thinking of a song with similar rhythm, bassline, or beats is much
easier.

Also remember, mixing quiet songs into loud songs isn't good...
make sure you keep the momentum going in EVERY way.  

A good way to practice is mixing accapella with percipella stuff;
mix beat-tracks with voice-tracks, of different songs.. it's neat.
For example, on Corina's and Lisette Melendez' records (high nrg)
there are some tracks called Berrio's Beats...

Have fun!
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From: sprother@nyx.cs.du.edu (stevyn e prothero)
Subject: the KLF in boulder
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 02:00:40 GMT


the KLF & Wanda D. play at the marquee this thurs sept 3rd.
i mite try and geta  tape recorder in and tape the show...
is it recommended? has anyone seen KLF? good shows? or should
i just relax and enjoy the show? ok BOULDER COLORADO its goona
be phun....
see u laters all!
slopp-e stev
  PS;  MIKE WERTHEIM: please drop e-mail with current address
                      cuz i have two 4 you .....
From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Sydney Rave Review: Welsh Embassy's Psychosis 3
Summary: Good Consistent Rave.
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:16:53 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

Last Saturday (Aug 29) I went along to "Psychosis: One Year On", the
latest effort from the Welsh Embassy crowd. The venue was a large
sturdy warehouse in MacAvoy street Alexandria, easy to find and not too
far out in the boonies.  The place was well organised, large chill-out
room and lots of toilets, if a little unatmospheric. I heard that they
were going to use an inner city venue (I heard the Ultimo woolsheds,
but I think they burned down a while back) but had to change at the
last moment, so all things considered the venue was good.

The crowd was large and happy, about two thousand or so I reckon - down
a little on some of the British-style raves we saw earlier this year,
but just right for the hall. Not too many squares, though I did spy a
small gaggle of boys-night-outers scratching themselves in the
chill-out room at one point.  On the floor there was lots of flesh
showing - spring is definitely in the air, and more power to it.

We got there early, about midnight. As per usual they started pretty
soft, some madchester hangovers (yuck) and ambient breaks, but by 2
they were stiffening. The light show was not bad but nowhere near as
good as the rave down in homebush bay earlier this month - I think
Welsh Embassy need to buy more lasers, or maybe some cleverer
controllers.

Anyway I had a very good time, but I don't class this as one of the
great raves. The trouble is that the expats seem not real interested
in textures or innovation - they're interested in the beat. While the
beat is sufficient to get your body to jerk, without drugs or some
decent sonic gimcrackery there's a part of you that gets bored, and 
that detracts.

What's up, pete, you say, no drugs? Well, I ain't a virgin, but if I'm
going to take happy pills I want to know where they've been, and I
didn't have anything like that on the night. Besides I've been trying
these semen retention techniques (cf. alt.sex) and they give you loads
of natural energy and stamina - I left at dawn, which is IMHO good
going for an unfit thirty-year old on nothing but fresh air, and I
would have stayed longer if it wasn't for a certain irrelevant
exigency. I didn't make it to the recovery, which was in Kinsela's, for
the same reason, but suffice it to say I was around and unfatigued.

All up, a worthwhile rave worth the dough and I'll go to their next
one, but not a mindblower. A weekend without television on the Sid &
Nancy scale.

-- 
Internet: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au   UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!munnari!cssc-syd!pete
Snail: 1/18-20 Orion Road, Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia    Phone: +61 2 911 3130
Where was I when the rope broke?
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From: eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Announcing: Underground Resistance, Sept. 6 in Detroit
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:28:06 GMT

In article <16854BD07.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu (hey, that's me!) writes:
...
>That's all the info I have on it.
 
OK, I lied. here's the flier (minus clever formatting and graphics):
 
In their first motorcity appearance...Detroit's defenders of technocracy
UR
Underground Resistance
Sunday Sept 6 - State Theatre
2115 Woodward * Detroit * 961-5450    [area code 313, for you out-of-staters]
Doors open 9pm, 18 & over, $10
This perfoemance is part of the "Panic strikes again" party
 
 
--Eric
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu   >...It has a REAL TECHNO style, in the tradition
WSU Detroit, Michigan      >of the old(er) Detroit techno. --Wilco Boumans
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From: steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch)
Subject: Re: CDs Are No Subsitute For Vinyl For DJs
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:44:10 GMT

Decent CD players for mixing are bound to come with time and should open
up a whole load of new opportunities. With the technology I don't think
there's any problem. 

What is a problem is the availability of material. A deejay in London
who relied purely on CDs would be weeks or months behind the rest of the
crowd. They'd also cut themselves off from the huge mass of material
that never finds its way onto CD.

I don't see the situation changing in the immediate future either.
Pressing up a coupla hundred white labels is going to be cheaper than
CDs for some time to come - and there wouldn't be much point in doing
CDs as few of the DJs who might buy your record would want that format
anyway.

-- 
Stephen Hebditch  TQM Communications  steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk +44 836 825962
From: ccsteve@cybaswan.UUCP (s marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: LSD the facts.
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: ccsteve@pyr.swan.ac.uk (s marshall)

Anyone interested in the effects etc of LSD should try and get hold of a book
called 'LSD and the American Dream'. I'm afraid I don't have any ISBN info for
it as the copy I had a look at was borrowed several years ago, and was never
returned. The book is a fairly hefty tome, but containes some facinating info
on LSD, including extracts from the diary of the guy who 'discovered' it.
Details of experiments, and clinical tests carried out on LSD. 
In relation to the above leaflet posting. Doses given in some of the tests
were in the 100-300 microgram range, 3-20 times stronger than that in the
trips described in this leaflet. I in no way condone Drug taking, and do not
deny that in some cases there are probelms. But I object to blatent scare
mongering tactics of the Drugs Kill You type. It is up to the individual to
research the effects of anything they are taking, since almost all of the
media given to this subject is bullshit - I know this isn't really a post
for alt.rave, sorry! but I'm bored at the moment, and I wanted to put by
$0.01 worth in.


-- 
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From: aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider)
Subject: Re: Milw Rave
Organization: The Banzai Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:32:33 GMT

poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Todd W Poepping) writes:
: just wanted to get some response from those ravers out there who went
: to HUMNAITY IN THE MACHINE AGE.
: 
: please send me your thoughts on last saturdays event,  how was :
: 
: 
: 			the sound
The sound was excellent, except for the ahort amount of time that the system
died/exploded/puked ... it sounded like they blew up either an amp or a
crossover.  It only took about 30 min. to be up and running again.

: 			the visuals
The lighting in the dance area was amazing!  This was my first rave so I
don't have any comparison except Milwaukee and Chicago clubs ... it was far
better than anything I've ever seen.

: 			the smart drinks
I didn't have the cash to try any...

: 			the energy level
Stayed VERY high all night, even during the dead music amd the 45 mins. or
so that the lights & music went out due to a circuit breaker popping, or
some such.

: 			the dj's
Again, excellent.  They did a perfect job of mixing and syncing and setting
the lights up into the music.

: 			the music they played
Being my first rave and not that well-versed in the tunez ... the music was
what kept the energy high all night.



Steve J. White		|	Reality is for those who can't handle	|
aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu|	roleplaying games.			|
skeptic@large@9600bps	|		- t-shirt at GenCon		|
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From: illusion@buhub.bradley.edu (Jeremy Riley)
Subject: Re: Curve: danceable?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 02:54:56 GMT

ghond@acca.nmsu.edu (ICE-9) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.003604.20827@bradley.bradley.edu>
> illusion@buhub.bradley.edu (Jeremy Riley) writes:
> 
> > Curve with their latest release 'Doppleganger' (sp. ?, sorry).  It was
> > would Curve be now or in the future be fitting for a rave scene.
> > I'm always looking for something new.
> 
> I think it's an excellent album.  And very danceable.  However,
> you're not likely to hear it at your typical techno-prejudiced rave.
> Why this is, I'm not sure.  Do people feel that unless the music
> is techno, it's not mind-altering enough?  Surely this effect wears
> off after hearing about 50 boring, predictable techno tracks in a row.
> Almost makes me want to start a Campaign for Real Rave.  :)
> 
This is expected.  Maybe the only hope would be to slowly
incorporate Curve and similar oddities under everyone's nose.  Perhaps
a generous sponsor would devote a side room for a diversion to the
norm.  As a lower production task, it could even be tackled as a hobby
by someomeone with the hardware and appropriate music. 
	As I have never been to an actual rave, I do hope that when I
do get the opportunity that it will not disappoint me.  To hear Curve
along with The ORB would truly make my day.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Some KLF musings n' stuff
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:17:05 GMT


I threw on "It's Grim Up North" last night whilst cleaning house.  Damn.  I
want the "Black Room" and I want it now.  I don't care if it is half-finished,
not at all started, or if they only did the cover art, I want anything else
they did like this.  "North" was really wonderful.

As for the boycott of the Wanda D thing, I'd tend to agree.  It sounds as if
the club owner is knowledgeable as to the fact that it isn't KLF, but he's
billing it as such.  Hand out flyers explaining the fact that KLF is no more
and this person is a fake.  I'd do it just out of respect for the real KLF,
but despite the fact that the owner may or may not be a dick, he's
participating in false advertising.  In short, he's money grubbing scum.

Looks like a lot of great stuff going down in Melbourne.  I think if George
gets reelected, I'm moving.
-- 
			  orb be in u, orb be out u

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
From: pck@acsu.buffalo.edu (Philip C. Kilinskas)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: LSD The facts!
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:25:10 GMT
Organization: UB

First, I must ask, are you posting this to show us what bullshit it is,
or as a serious warning?  This document is so full of misinformation and
blatant propaganda that it's difficult to know where to begin.  I think
it would be best to wait until I get some references to refute it, though,
so that no one will assume I'm spouting unsubstantiated claims, as this
man obviously is.
One thing must be emphasized, though:  LSD DOES *NOT* CAUSE ANY DAMAGE
WHATSOEVER TO THE BRAIN.  The "chromosome damage" story is complete
bullshit, and was disproved several times in the '70's.  LSD is an
extremely powerful drug, and should be treated with respect, but not 
feared.


Sadly, this isn't half as bad as the misinformation being spread about
MDMA these days.

Phil
____________________________________________________________________________
pck@acsu.buffalo.edu /  "Our days are like grass..." - Psalms 103:51
Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT.  You feel sleepy.  Notice how
restful it is to watch the cursor blink.  Close your eyes.  The opinions
stated above are yours.  You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.drugs
From: tsjenki@eos.ncsu.edu 
Subject: Re: LSD The facts!
Originator: tsjenki@c00013-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tsjenki@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:20:33 GMT


In article <1992Aug27.194235.12976@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
|> Xref: taco alt.rave:1846 alt.drugs:37086
|> Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.drugs
|> Path: taco!rock!stanford.edu!ames!haven.umd.edu!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvaac!billn
|> From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
|> Subject: Re: LSD The facts!
|> Message-ID: <1992Aug27.194235.12976@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
|> : >    - PCP (Angel Dust) produces a form of sensory isolation that is stronger
|> : >      than LSD; disorientation, distortion of body image, complete numbness,
|> : >      sweating, rapid heart rate and hyper tension. A slight overdose can 
|> : >      shut down the central nervous system and lead to death.
|> : 
|> : well there are alot of drugs you shouldnt take, 
|> : cyanide being one.. people have slipped that into aspirin
|> : but people still take that
|> 
|> Can you get enough PCP on a small piece of blotter? I doubt if the dosage
|> is in the microgram range.
|> 
|> Bill

I'd really like to see someone get enough pcp on a piece of blotter. (It would 
probaly look like an oreo cookie.

	Dosage
  -low dose (0-5mg)
  -high dose (10+mg)
  -most testing done (5-7.5mg)
  
also of note is "a slight overdose".  What do they mean by "slight".  Hell the 
whole reason the stuff was invented was because it was safer than most 
anesthetics, with a therapeutic ratio 26. (The amount needed to kill/ the amount
needed to produce an effect.

from:
The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Drugs 1985
    Marilyn Carroll, Ph.D. ,Chelsea House Publishers New York


----------------------------------Jinks
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
From: shaun@octel.com (Attacking Deep Structure)
Subject: Re: Mars 103.1 is dead
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:09:06 GMT

In article <RSLAU.92Sep1223028@tarazed.usc.edu> rslau@usc.edu (Robert Lau) writes:

[ stuff about getting a radio show deleted]

>I need net.wisdom!  If anybody out there knows how one goes about doing
>something like this, I'm ALL EARS!  Heck, if we can pull this thing off,
>I'll need net.music.requests :)

You need to:

A) Make a demo tape, and 
B) Get and fill out whatever paperwork is required for each station you 
   apply to.

Details:

A)  I highly suggest making your demo tape on a multitrack recorder, if 
    you have access to one.  Antelope and I spent about 3 hours making a
    perfect-sounding demo tape on my 4-track.  We used two channels for 
    music, one for voice, and one for sound effects and tv soundbites.
    We finally ended up with a ~45 minute demo tape that sounded perfect.
    It took forever to mix, and the music was the same on both mixdown 
    channels since we had to record the originals in mono, but no one
    seemed to notice, and we got a radio show without a hitch.

B)  You're probably going to have to fill out at least one form per 
    station that will accompany your demo tape.  It concerns you name, 
    phone number, etc, and a essay question about what you want to play
    and why you think your music deserves a show.  It's imporant to keep
    this brief and legible.  If you can say something like "The music I 
    will be playing currently has no airplay in this region, but has a 
    substantial potential following made up of local college students, 
    teens, (other groups with lots of spare time and purchasing power.)"
    then say it.  Don't extoll the virtues of your favorite genre; tell 
    the program committee why people will listen to your show.

You might want to come up with a few "features" like music news swiped 
from Usenet, mailing lists, and 'Zines, or soundbite stolen from popular
older cartoons.  We use Bullwinkle, Angst uses Speed Racer.  If you want
to do this, rent a bunch of cartoon videotapes, and tape random 
interesting bits.  The more fun and character your show has, the better
your chances.

If you're going to work at a community or student station, you'll have to
fill out a little bit of paperwork to get an FCC license, which is free.
If you work at a commercial station, you'll probably have to do more, but
I have no idea what.

Hope this helps.  It worked for me.

You might want to subscribe to the playlist mailing list, by sending a
message with "SUBSCRIBE" as the subject to 
"playlist-request@ecst.csuchico.edu" which I happen to run.

@Man
-- 
shaun@octel.com  ||  "Now is the time on Sprockets when we Lambada!"
              
Days of Our Lives: It softens heads while you do dishes!
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From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: political incorrectness
Organization: The Ohio State University
 alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace) writes:
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:23:30 GMT

Sounds cool!

>Well it also helps that I have a personal thing against the
>cocaine-selling, butt-pinching, flaming in-your-face faggot of a club owner
>that is arranging this thing.  I'd really like to see the bastard loose out
>big on this one.
>
>Alex Pace
>alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Arrgh!  Net police!  Net Police!
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: The Final Call: wack? was Re: rave new world
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:12:50 GMT

Hey, Todd, did Dantech do the sound for last weekend?

Jer.


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James)
Subject: Numark lives?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:04:51 GMT





        from the July/August issue of Streetsound:
                                            


        Where's Numark?


It's a sign of the times. Renowned manufacturer of DJ products 
Numark Electronics has ceased to exist. The company had 
been experiencing long production delays after relocating its 
manufacturing plant from Japan to California. Unable to get 
back on its feet in time, the bank apparently moved in. Soon 
as news spread about Numark's demise, talk began of who would 
get their paws on the company and its prized line of quality 
mixers. And sure enough, it wasn't long before MTX Soundcraftsmen 
emerged from the smoke. In a cunning move, Sound-craftsmen swung 
a deal with K. Ikezawa, a former Numark partner and their chief 
designer, who just happened to hold all the patents on Numark 
products. By setting up MTX Professional Products Group, they 
got the guts of Numark with Ikezawa, without the name, but also 
without any unwanted baggage, which apparently includes several 
hundred defective Numark 6020 CD players. MTX should have a line 
of mixers remarkably similar to Numark's ready to go by the end 
of the summer. MTX Soundcraftsmen, 555 W. Lamm Rd., Freeport IL 
60132. (815) 232-2000; fax (815) 233-2142.
 
 
-- 

***************************
bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: edd586ysft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Who made THE SOURCE E.P.???
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:32:27 GMT


Well sports fans, I have a question.

Does anyone know the name of the mob who mad The Source E.P.
I have a copy in a plain silver sleve with blue label (which kinda leads
me to believe it is an R&S release.

The second side (I think) has two tracks on it which are totally sick,
and side A has the one that is a bit more mellow with some 303 sounds
running thru it, and kicks a bit better toward the end.

Oh, my the way, if anyone out there has an R&S po mo copy of "What is fick
dig", it's by "Friends of Alex", and apparently just got released this week.
(I've had the bloody thing for 2 months... jeeeeze R&S are getting slow!)

J.

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