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From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The FISH EAT BUFFALFO MEAT!
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:16:31 GMT
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Miami   37 Buffalo  10  * FINAL

From the mouth of Chris Berman:
"You would have had to be an idiot to think Miami even had a chance
of beating the Bills this week!"

Should I take that as an insult or a compliment? Considering (as far as
I know) *I* was the only one on this entire group that said Miami would
beat the Bills this week.....

I quote: "Buffalo won't even make it to 5-0. I think Miami's going to
beat them this week...."

:) 10q vewwy much.

--Vernon.
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From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on yesterday's games
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 22:03:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.193848.29889@eplrx7.es.duPont.com>, walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker) writes:
>1.  How about that TD run by Steve Young?  He really faked out a few
>    defensemen and left them standing cold.  This guy looks like he
>    might give Randall a challenge for the nickname "Scrambler".

Even as a 49er fan, I still have to admit that Randall is probably a
better overall quarterback. But no QB is better at running the ball
than Steve Young. He may be the best running quarterback of all time.
I just wish he wouldn't carry the ball with one hand as much as he
does; one of these days (if anyone can get close enough) he's going
to get his arm chopped or get the ball punched and he's going to lose it.

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: James Brooks -- Where the hell is he playing?
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:49:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I think James Brooks was one of the best backs of the 80's and
still has a few good years in him.  The bengals were stupid to
let him slip away from them.  My question is WHERE THE HELL IS
HE PLAYING???@!?!?!  I know that Cleveland picked him up off of
the Plan B (Personally I belive this was for no other reason than
to not have to play *against* him) but, then I heard then say on
primetime that he was playing at Tampa Bay (for dynamic sammy).

So where is he?  What's his numbers? How's he doing?  Could someone
say hello from one of his biggest fans?????

Alex

p.s. Thank god I didn't have to see boomer throw 4 more INT's this week.
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:56:45 -0400 
From: John Thomas <jt29+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Eric Green Coming Back(to the Steelers) Soon?

In <1992Sep28.175737@IASTATE.EDU> jdhelter@IASTATE.EDU (Jeffrey Helterbrand)
writes:
 
>Is Tight End Eric Green expected back soon for the Steelers?
 
He is expected back for the Cleveland game in two weeks(the Steelers
have off this coming week).  There is quite a bit of concern about his
durability, though.  With all of the dropped passes this past Sunday (at
_least_ eight), he could be a big help.


---john              "Fame is fleeting while, Jim Ross,
J.B. Thomas          INFAMY LASTS FOREVER...."---Cactus Jack      
jt29+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: dallas vs philadelphi
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:28:49 EST
Reply-To: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Executive Networks Information

DALLAS VS PHILADELPHIA


THE BIGGEST GAME IN HISTORY.....NOT!


Too early in the season.

Two teams that have won a combined total of one playoff game in
eight years. (and the winner of that single game lost 38-6 the next week.)

Two quarterbacks that have NEVER won a playoff game.


Let's be reasonable and not cancel the season after next monday night
and award the winner the Lombardi trophy.

The last Monday night game to receive much hype was SF-NY in 1990.

The difference was that it was much later in the season, and there were
two dynastys competing, not two wannabees. Still, the outcome was
not important because SF won, but the Giants beat them in the playoffs.



Now, if you want to see a colossal matchup,

watch the Patriots versus the Jets on TNT! Someone's O has got to go!

                            Al
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From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bermanisms
Date: 2 Oct 1992 16:22:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, zezula@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Chad E Zezula) says:

>In article <1992Sep30.220610.25895@nntpserver.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>>
>>Updated list of the Bermanator's classics:
>>
>>   Reggie "Foghorn" Langhorne
>>   Vince Workman "my way back to you, babe"
>>   Thermal Thomas
>>   Brad "Colonel" Muster "who did it in the Laboratory with a lead pipe"
>>   Scott "Won't you let me take you on a" Secules
>>   "Who Framed" Roger Ruzek
>>   Steve "I got you babe" Bono
>>   Eric "Sleeping with" Bieniemy.
>>   Steve "A-Tisker-A" Taskers
>>   Toi's "In the Attic" Cook
>>   Barry "Never a discouraging" Word
>>   Andre "Bad Moon" Rison
>>
>>Any other favorites?
>
>Jeff "Mick" Jaeger
>John "Deep" Friez
>Dwight "and the Family" Stone
>Jeff "Boy" George
>Michael "Purple" Hayze (sp?)
>
     How about some of my own:
"The Importance of being" Earnest Byner
Jim "Peanut Butter and" Kelly
Dan "Eight Men" Fouts
Gale "force winds" Sayers
Joe Namath "that tune"
Ernie "Until the 12th of" Nevers (That's a real old song!)
Johnny Unitas "We Stand, Divided We Fall" (Great Colts theme song, huh?
Unitas we stand, divided we fall/with Johnny we will never have our backs
against the wall!  Sorry, it's been a long week of studying.)
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu      :    "Every baby born into the world is
Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain
From: milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay Question
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:44:43 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep29.123440.6562@dg-rtp.dg.com> zayas@satchmo.rtp.dg.com (Mike Zayas) writes:
>In article <5613@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>|> 
>|> What was Tampa Bay's initial losing streak when they came into the league,
>|> and what was the first team that they managed to beat?
>|> 
>
>They lost their entire inaugural season (0-14), and the first 12 games of
>their 2nd season. That makes their debut a 26 game losing streak before they
>beat the St. Louis Cards, and followed that with a win over the Saints.
>
>
Sorry Robert,
You got 'em backwards. The first win was in New Orleans (33-14).
The second was at home against the St. Louis Cards. The 0-26 record thing was   right, though.


-- 
                                                The Rickster
                                                milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu
The only thing in life that you get
for free is your feelings hurt.
From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Best Performance
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:13:34 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

>
>Montanas SB records:
>
>Career:                                      Single Game:
>----------------------------------           -----------------------------
>most completions (83)                        consecutive completions (13)
>most attempts (122)                          most yards passing (357)
>completion percentage (68.0)                 TD passes (5)
>most yards passing (1142)                    most atts w/o INT (36)
>TD passes (11)
>INT % (0.00) (tied with Plunkett)


I'm not going to start a typical response to these sorts of
comparisons and statements about the greatest qb/rb/lb etc, BUT . . .
.

The 80's were the turning point in NFL offenses; the rules changed so
much to make the game faster, more pass-oriented, and higher scoring.
Just take something like late hit on the qb or in-the-grasp calls.
Sure the qb still gets beat up, but it does make a difference.

Probably the most significant change (?) in the game is the five-yard
bump rule on receivers.

I have lots of respect for Joe, and he's undoubtedly a great
quarterback, but guys like Len, Terry, Joe Namath and Roger had some
phenomenal games (and as a Dallas fan, I do have to point out Roger's
comeback in '79 vs. the Steelers as a great qb effort).

So, here's to a discussion with no resolution!

I think it'd be an interesting comparison of Bradshaw and Montana, who
played the same nubmer of SB's (although I would say Bradshaw is not
that great of a qb--you should see some of his truck commercials down
in Shreveport, LA; nobody that stupid could be a great qb!)

I enjoy the stats and the discussions.  




-- 

Gary Beason    			      bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
Purdue University, English    	      bubba@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Eudora)
  
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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Destroy Dallas !!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:36:55 GMT
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <2576@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan
Welch) writes:
|>In article <1ar3ocINNfm0@shirley.cs.widener.edu> austin@cs.widener.edu
(Jeff Austin) writes:
|>>
|    (Stuff Deleted)
|>
|>I haven't gotten through all the messages yet, but I'm sure I'll see a lot
|>more woofing.  There's reason for it, too.  At the same time, though, I
|>was happy to see the Cowboys put forth the effort in what was a tough
|>situation, instead of folding.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   Sorry Daniel, I'm a 'Boy fan, and I have to disagree with you here.
   The Cowboys did fold under the pressure.  As my buddy J.Gloria
   would say the Cowboys did not have the HUEVOS to play the Eagles.
   In other words,  the performance was awful.  They played SCARED.
   You cant compete when you are scared.   Ask Troy, Emmitt, Novacek,
   Johnston, Harper....the list goes on.   

   I know I know this game was only the fourth of the season, but it
   was a good indicator to measure the team's muturity.   Work is still
   needed.  Troy has to show that can LEAD the team.

   The Eagles are playing great football.   They dominated the 'Boys
   on the football field.  Hopefully, this game will serve as a wake up
   call for the 'Boys.   


  I didn't expect them to win this game,
|>and sure enough, they didn't.  But they're going to win a lot more this
|>year, and if Philly hangs on to the division lead, as they probably
|>will, they had better get use to having Dallas on their heels.
|>
|>Daniel Welch
From: dmdst8@pitt.edu (Daryl M Dolan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Box Score Request, K.C. vs. Raiders
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:30:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: dmdst8@unix.cis.pitt.edu


The subject pretty much says it all.

If there is an ftp site where I can get it, please let me know.

All/any responses thru EMail please to this account or to
	dolan@cpwsca.psc.edu

adTHANXvance

Daryl M. Dolan
Senior, Pitt Computer Science
Student Consultant, Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center 
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From: drums@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.e.wisnack.jr)
Subject: Re: GIANTS blow another one
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:32:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.155939.3094@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, wag1@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (d.wagley) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.142813.28801@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, drums@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.e.wisnack.jr) writes:
> > In article <91744@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
> > > 
> > > Mark Collins does his BEST impression of Everson Walls and trying to make 
> > > "the big play" gives the Raiders an easy touchdown (and to a guy coming off
> > > a hamstring injury).
> > > 
> > 
> > Oh come on now.  If Collins comes up with that, you would have 
> > called him the greatest back the Giants ever had.  What the Giants
> > need right now is someone to be a little aggressive, and that's 
> > exactly what he was doing.  If the same situation came up next
> > week I would hope he would do the same thing, go for the int.
> 
> What a load of crap! Wasn't it third down and 17?
> 
> Third down and long in Raider territory. Knock the damn ball down!
> You'll most likely  get it back on the next play. Going for the
> interception was a mistake. 
> 
> 				Doug
> 

So what !!  Here's the call:
3rd down & 17 in Raider territory...Mark Collings picks it
off..he's down the sideline...no one's going to catch him..
touchdown Giants.
My point is, I don't like when one guy gets the blame and 
the offense only scored 10 points.

	Bob
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From: chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson)
Subject: Re: Miami is all hype....
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 13:24:27 GMT

in article <1992Oct5.203320.28522@math.ucla.edu>, rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) says:
> 
> Remember last year when K.C. beat Buffalo, there was a lot of hype.....
> Buffalo came back and beat K.C. .....Buffalo in the Super Bowl.

Where was that KC game?  KC?

> 
> Remember two years back when Miami beat Buffalo, there was a lot of hype..
> Buffalo came back and beat Miami ...Buffalo in the Super Bowl.

Where was that Miami game?  Miami?

Now, where was this Miami game?  Buffalo?  Miami dominance in Buffalo?

> 
> A Miami loss this week would put the Doll fans in second..... 
> assuming this Buffalo team beats L.A.
> You better just worry about making the playoffs, especially since 
> you sucked in the first few games of the season.

Perhaps the Fins didn't look GREAT in the first few games of the season, but
they looked unbeatable this past week in Buffalo.

-- 
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The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my employer.
From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Pats vs. Bills
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:59:18 GMT
Organization: Houses of the Holy

In article <1a79f9INNsb@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, cor@wpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
> 
> 41-7.
> 
> 
> This defeat is a real demoralizer for the Pats...

Why is it a demoralzer for the Pats?  IS it because they were blown
out or just because they were defeated?  If it is the latter, I see
no cause for getting down on yourself; afterall the Bills are one
of the best teams in football today.



-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Will SF win the division?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 01:28:48 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Will SF win the divison?

Here is the SF schedule:

	SF @ NYG     SF
 	Buf @ SF     BUF
	SF @ NYJ     SF
 	SF @ NO      SF
	 Rams @ SF    SF
	SF @ NE      W 
	Atl @ SF     W
	Rams, SF     W
	SF @ Phx     W
 	SF @ Atl     L
	NO @ SF      L
	SF @ Rams    W
	Phil @ SF    L
	Mia @ SF     ?
	SF @ Minn    W
    	TB @ SF      W
 	Det @ SF     W

The W's stand for fairly safe wins, the L's stand for fairly safe
losses. Considering SF nearly lost to the Ram's, arguably one of the
weakest teams in the NFC, and her secondary collapsed under the Saints
(not the strongest of offenses), I would say that SF will loose to the
Saints again, loose to the fired up Marino, and probably loose one of
two to Atlanta. SF ends the season 11-5.

New Orleans, on the other hand, is:

	NO @ Phil    PHIL
	Chi @ NO     NO
	NO @ Atl     NO
 	SF @ NO      SF
	NO @ Det     W 
    	Rams @ NO    W
	NO @ Phx     W

	TB @ NO      W     
	NO @ NE      W
	NO @ SF      W
 	Wash @ NO    L
	Mia @ NO     L
 	Atl @ NO     L
	NO @ Rams    W
  	Buf @ NO     L
     	NO @ NYJ     W

If Miami looses to the Saints, they will probably loose to SF, which
proves their latest win may have been a fluke. They end up 10-6, which
puts them just behind SF. And I think SF beats them in a tie, in case
NO beats out Atlanta or Maimi.

If SF beat out the Saints, they can probably beat out Atlanta, since
they don't seem to be doing that well this year.



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Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 12:05:34 -0400 
From: Richard Paul Smolen <rs84+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Zimmer & 49ers fans

Zimmer, you think you're flamemaster or something?

You get an ego trip by posting shit like this?:
Or do you get a sick pleasure from seeing people waste their time (like
I am right now) by responding to it?

>Listen, you lamo, I'm really sorry that the net.Niner fans won't
>pander to your idea of acceptable behavior by woofing like idiots
>over a close victory attained despite unfavorable officiating.
>If such infantile posturing is important to you, maybe we can find 
>a suitable newsgroup for your type.  Then again, maybe we'll just
>get you a dumb (seems like an operative word) terminal and enable
>the local echo:  you can entertain yourself ad infinitum (sorry;
>that's Latin, which doesn't seem fair given your obvious handicaps)
>without bothering the rest of us (note I didn't say we'd *connect*
>the terminal to anything).

this is a FOOTBALL bboard, not a place for freshman geek flamewars.

if you want respect on this board, you have to post insightful comments
about the games.  if you want respect at all, you have to learn when to
shut up.  

Hint:  Time to shut up, Zimmer

Thank God all 49er fans are not like you.


Rich.

** To All :  lets give Zimmer the respect he deserves: As the old saying goes:

(So, from now on,)  Just ignore it and it'll go away....
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: To all Dolphin fans
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:57:51 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <Bvnwrw.D3r@encore.com>, tolsen@encore.com (Ted Olsen) writes:
> 
> Let me start by saying that I was in the Orange Bowl the night
> Joe Auer ran the Dolphins very first kickoff return 
> back for a touchdown.  I was then and have always been a
> Dolphin fan. Okay... I'm an old shit :-)  Anyway.. on to my point.
> 
> Over the last year or so I have quietly watched
> the posts that take place here in r.s.f.p.  I have
> always been amused by the way people get so excited when
> their team wins a big game and have been equally amazed by how fast
> people kick their team when they loose a big game.  I have always attributed
> it to those (insert derogatory remark here) fans of those other teams.
> 
> So....  We have a big game this weekend.  We win..  And guess what?
> Dolphin fans have really let me down. They are doing the same thing!
> My god people they won one game!  Yes, it was one of the biggest wins
> in the last couple of years. Yes, Keith Jackson has made a good offense
> better. Yes, the defense is improving. Yes, I'm excited as you, however,
> they still have 12 to play.  How the hell can you even be talking about
> going 16 and 0? They still have to play Atlanta, Buffalo, New Orleans,
> San Francisco, Houston, Indy twice, and New York twice.  Maybe you all
> were just kidding about 16 and 0?  Right???  I hope so! Lets calm down, 
> see what happens over the next 12 weeks and hope for a Buffalo/Miami AFC    
> championship game here in Miami this January!
> 
> Hey.  I want them to win as badly as you but the posts this morning
> were a bit much.
> 
> BTW..  Tony...  I liked your new, special occasion, .sig
> 
> Ted

       The only thing I have to say is: The next step has been taken.
       I know that this is only 1/16 of the season.
       One more thing: we need a pass rush to win the big one.

                      -doug THE dolfan-
From: mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Let the HYPE begin
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:19:03 GMT
Organization: CRAY Research

In article <25679@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day) writes:
>In rec.sport.football.pro, SFRELIAS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>The match up between the BILLS and the dolphins this sunday should be the
                                                       ^^^^^^
>>game to watch.
>
>  Maybe to you, a die hard Bills fan. To non-Bills fans, the game to
>watch this coming week will be the Monday night game between the Eagles
>and Cowboys. There you have 2 strong contenders to represent the NFC
>in the Super Bowl. In Buffalo we have 1 strong contender and one up
>and coming team.
>

He *did* say *Sunday*, now didn't he??
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: JGH Computer Predictions - Week 5
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 29 SEP 92 15:17:37    

Last week:   7-4
Cumulative:  38-14  (73%)

The number after each game is the amount the computer expects the 
home team to win or lose by.  Note that the home team is favored in 
all but two games.

Packers       at Falcons        4
Bears         at Vikings        5
Colts         at Buccaneers     8
Dolphins      at Bills          7
Saints        at Lions          1
Chiefs        at Broncos        3
Rams          at 49ers         10
Giants        at Raiders       -1
Seahawks      at Chargers       1
Redskins      at Cardinals     -8
Patriots      at Jets           4
Cowboys       at Eagles         3

Ratings:  Usually the rating of a team with a bye won't change  
(although a team could move past them in the rankings) but I 
fiddled with the algorithm again.

Rank Team         Rating
---- ------------ ------  
 1   Bills          93
 2   Eagles         86
 3   Cowboys        85
 4   Redskins       82
 5   49ers          79
 6   Saints         75
 7   Chiefs         71
 8   Dolphins       69
 9   Broncos        69
10   Oilers         69
11   Vikings        65
12   Lions          60
13   Bears          52
14   Buccaneers     51
15   Giants         50
16   Steelers       50
17   Falcons        43
18   Packers        36
19   Rams           36
20   Bengals        32
21   Browns         25
22   Seahawks       23
23   Raiders        22
24   Jets           21
25   Colts          20
26   Patriots       15
27   Cardinals      14
28   Chargers       10

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu

"There are three things that are important to every man in this room.  
 His religion, his family, and the Green Bay Packers, in that order"
                   - Vince Lombardi as quoted by Jerry Kramer
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