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From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cellular between 440 and 450 MHz?
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:46:50 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Sep29.194221.28289@mixcom.com>, kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
> 
> Just got back from an "extended" lunch hour! ;-)
> 
> I got a couple of burgers and drove to the top of a very large hill
> in the area.  I figured I'd spend the noon-hour checking out the HAM
> bands with my scanner.  It's nothing fancy: a Uniden BC70xlt good up to
> 512MHz (no 800 MHz or better).          
> 
> I was scanning the HAM band between 440 and 450 MHz.  I found some HAM
> repeater freqs in my area (Milwaukee) which is exactly what I was looking
> for.  I also found a bunch of what appeared to be cellular phone freqs
> comming in very clear.  I heard the whole bit: dial tones, DTMF, ring tones
> and a whole lot of conversations.  Why was I hearing this stuff in that freq
> range (440 MHz to 450 MHz)?  Is that because celluar phone freqs are up
> around 880 to 900 MHz?  What causes this half-freqeuncy effect?  Do all
> scanners exhibit this phenomenon?  Note that I was NOT near a cellular
> transmitter.  At least none that I could see.
> 
> Any insight is greatly appreciated.  Sorry...maybe this is a FAQ.
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com
> 
>         "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
>                           -- Microware

Could it be the old mobile telephone systems?  I can't remember the freqs where
they are located, but I think there are some in UHF.  Could they be 10.7Mhz
(appx. the first stage) away?  Suggestions, anybody?

Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: National Standard of Time Broadcast
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 04:25:34 GMT

In article <BvI525.Dtt@acsu.buffalo.edu> v106qhlw@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (
EW YORKER IN EXILE) writes:
>How do i monitor this broadcast?  My scanner doesn't seem to pick it up.
>Do I need something special?  I'm very interested in this, so i'd be mos

>appreciative if someone could help me out.
>
>mark foggin



 If you mean the the one that transmit beep beep  and announcement 
  of time and propagation every 18 minutes in the hours 
  they are WWv at fort collins transmit at 2.5 mhz ,5.0 mhz, 10.0 mhz
  15.0 mhz 20.0 mhz.( From Colorado)

  another station at Hawaii WWVH also transmit at same frequency but not
  20.0 mhz. by the  Canada also have . one of it is 7.335.

     unles your scanner can go to shortwave you can't get the broadcats
  or there is broadscast  in VHF i don't know of.

  Muskie

X
From: andyp@treehouse.uucp (Andy Peterman)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: National Standard of Time Broadcast
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:03:02 GMT
Organization: The Treehouse

In article <1992Oct2.185538.16808@ms.uky.edu> acourt@ncc.uky.edu writes:
>v106qhlw@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (NEW YORKER IN EXILE) writes:
>
>: How do i monitor this broadcast?  My scanner doesn't seem to pick it up.
>: Do I need something special?  I'm very interested in this, so i'd be
most
>: appreciative if someone could help me out.
>
>If you mean the WWV/WWVH, and CHU time broadcasts, you will need a
>shortwave receiver to monitor them.

Shortwave???.  Now there's a word whose meaning needs to change!  Scanner
frequences are MUCH shorter wavelengths than those used for WWV.  I guess 
to listen to that you'd actually need a mediumwave receiver now :-)).
-- 
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From: Kirk.Smith@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Accessories
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:27:21 GMT

I've noticed people referring to MerriMac as a good place to buy battery
packs, etc for handheld scanners.  Do they offer many specialty products?
I've seen their high-capacity pack for the Uniden handhelds, and it's a
great idea.  What I'd really like is an "AA" battery holder for my
BC-100XLT.  Does anyone make such a beast?  It'd be great for emergency
backup.

Does MerriMac offer a catalog of their products, and if so, does anyone
have their 800#?

-Kirk

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From: aa357@yfn.ysu.edu (Greg Ricker)
Subject: Trip To Ohio(Akron)
Reply-To: aa357@yfn.ysu.edu (Greg Ricker)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:50:25 GMT


Could the poster of the article for frequencies for Akron, Ohio and OSP
please E-Mail me. I beleve he was from the Chicago area? i have frequencies
you may be interested. I also am looking for Chicago and surrounding areas FD
Frequencies.
Thanks
-- 
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             am396@clevelan.freenet.edu  Cleveland Free-Net
             gricker@heartland.bradley.edu  Heartland Free-Net
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From: mam28@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Handheld amplification
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:16:44 GMT

In article <BvEE5H.2v9@math.uwaterloo.ca> raford@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Robert Ford) writes:
>
>A couple of years ago I purchased a Pro37 so I could carry it wherever I
>went.  I noticed quickly that it lacks audio power, especially in a
>noisy environment such as a car.  I came up with two solutions, neither
>of which is really good.  First, I can turn the volume to half and hold
>the speaker up to my ear.  This works well, but if someone else wants to
>listen in as well, that makes this method a little too close for comfort.
>
>The second alternative was to buy an 5 watt amplified speaker from
>Radio shack and rig a cigarette lighter to it for power.  This works
>well for the car, but unless I want to carry a 12v battery pack and an
>extra speaker with me while I'm out walking this rather inconvenient and
>akward.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>Robert Ford
>Department of Computer Science
>University of Waterloo
>
>
I hope no one posted a response yet.  I used the cassette and power
adapters that came with my car discman.  It worked great.  Plenty of
audio and the nicads charged too!

Mike
-- 
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From: johnr@mik.uky.edu (john s roberts)
Subject: Re: Advice sought on connecting an antenna
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:24:03 GMT

Doesn't radio shack sell the type of connectors you are looking for.  Just
a few weeks ago I purchased a BNC connector that I crimped on the end
of some coax.  I used Belden 9058 (anyone have any advice if this is
good cable to use with antennas?)

John
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From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re: USAF callsigns
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:35:27 GMT

In article <8255@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> chow@plasma.icsl.ucla.edu (Elvin Chou) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone knew the meaning of the callsigns ORBIT OPS, and
>REACH _____.  I hear these callsigns used frequently on 272.2 MHz the
>(formerly)SAC tactical frequecy as listed in one of my books.  I was wondering
>if anyone knew what these are.
>
>---Elvin Chou
>   chow@plasma.icsl.ucla.edu 

   ORBIT OPS is the Los Angeles Air Force Station Ops Center, using a remote
antenna site at LAX.
 
   REACH ##### are Air Materiel Command (formerly MAC) aircraft.


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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro-37 for sale (2 days old!!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:58:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith) writes:
>I have a pro-37 for sale.  I love it, but I really need a base unit.  YES,
>it has been modified for CELLULAR!!  Complete 800 mhz range!!  For specs,
>look back a few messages at the pro-34 being sold.  This is there
>latest/best handheld, with 200 channels, and Hyperscan.  
>Search Rate 50 or 8 channels a second.

>Sells for $299.  I will sell for $250 or best offer.  It is two days old, I
>would take it back, but the box accidently got thrown away.  I still have
>the owners manual and recipt though.  Leave mail.
*----
If it's been modified, why would they take it back, even with the box?
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
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	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro-37 for sale (2 days old!!)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 15:34:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, chl@ackerman.cba.csuohio.edu (Chuck Liggett) says:

>Let me get this right...  You bought it two days ago, and in that time,
>you modified it for cellular coverage and since that instant, you
>decided that you don't want it anymore ?????
>
>Man!  You shoulda bought the base unit right off the bat!
>


Let me clarify this a little better...

I live in Parma Hts Ohio. (a suburb of Cleveland).  There is another
suburb, two cities away, Strongsville, who uses 851.0125 for all there
police/fire stuff.  The unit starts at 551.1125.  Just misses it by .1!
ok, no problem, restore full 800 Mhz band, and that will do it, right?
WRONG!!  The step rate is not set right, and when you enter in 851.0125, it
automatically switches to 851.0100 or something close. 


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The first thing we notice is the beauty within.
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From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:58:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Cellular between 440 and 450 MHz?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner

Re: Cell phones on 440 Mhz


These are images of the actual 800 Mhz conversations.

I have a BC-170 (el-cheapo) and when I am set to my local police
department primary frequency (460.30) I also get cell conversations.

I tracked these conversations with my 2004 to 888.xxx (I don't recall)
frequency. 

I figured out the frequency conversion scheme one time but it's written
in that scanner's manual at home.

So now you're a criminal.


Ron Miller
NW0U
From: acourt@ncc.uky.edu (Allan Courtney)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: National Standard of Time Broadcast
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:55:37 GMT
Reply-To: acourt@ncc.uky.edu
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

v106qhlw@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (NEW YORKER IN EXILE) writes:

: How do i monitor this broadcast?  My scanner doesn't seem to pick it up.
: Do I need something special?  I'm very interested in this, so i'd be most
: appreciative if someone could help me out.

If you mean the WWV/WWVH, and CHU time broadcasts, you will need a
shortwave receiver to monitor them.


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From: brett@surfpix.princeton.edu (Brett Borowski)
Subject: Probably faqs....
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:55:08 GMT


I am interested in buying a portable scanner soon and I
have a few questions.

1)  What sort of stuff goes on in the 108-118mhz range?

2)  How interesting/important is the 800mhz band?

3)  Has anybody had any (good or bad) experience with
    factory serviced scanners?

4)  In general, which is better, Uniden or Radio Shack?

5)  Are Uniden portables modifiable?

I'm considering Uniden 200xlt, 205xlt, and 100xlt, and Radio
Shack Pro-36 and 35.  Any anecdotal comments on any these
would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance...
Brett
From: st1hg@jetson.uh.edu (Atteberry, Charles R.)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: N.M. and AZ Freq. wanted
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:04:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,
I will be travelling to Arizona for a national sports car rallye this 
weekend.  Since I will be coming from Texas does anyone have any helpful
freq. that I can use along the way.  I have most of them for Texas so 
those aren't necessary.  I will be sticking mostly to the interstate
(I-10) so highway patrol freq. would be most helpful.  Also, what type
of speed tracking devices are in use in New Mexico and Arizona, Radar
(X, K,-pulsed, Ka-photo, Ka-Stalker, LIDAR, air surveillance, VASCAR,
etc.) ???   My destination is Tucson and Yuma so if anyone has 
interesting freq's for those place they would also be appreciated.
Please E-Mail any responses.
                              Thanx in advance,
                                   Mac.
                                  N5WVD.
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From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Wanted: OPP freq's along the 401...
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:26:44 GMT

Does anyone know what frequencies the OPP use along the 401?
Also, is there an FTP site for Ontario frequencies in general?
From: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-37 for sale (2 days old!!)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 13:08:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu




I have a pro-37 for sale.  I love it, but I really need a base unit.  YES,
it has been modified for CELLULAR!!  Complete 800 mhz range!!  For specs,
look back a few messages at the pro-34 being sold.  This is there
latest/best handheld, with 200 channels, and Hyperscan.  

Scan Rate 25 or 8 channels a second
Search Rate 50 or 8 channels a second.

Sells for $299.  I will sell for $250 or best offer.  It is two days old, I
would take it back, but the box accidently got thrown away.  I still have
the owners manual and recipt though.  Leave mail.

-- 
The Last thing we look at, is the color of skin.
The first thing we notice is the beauty within.
We shall be free.                                  -Garth Brooks
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From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: cellular interception
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:24:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.2571.1474@dosgate> "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@canrem.com> writes:
>So in short, remember there is absolutely NO limit in Canada as to what you
>can legally receive on your scanner (radar detectors, sadly, are another
>matter, sigh...), but there ARE laws to prevent you from divulging what you
>hear.  However, they are strictly unenforceable.  Thus the Quebec ruling.

What about having a scanner or some kind of narrow-band receiver that lets
you hear police freq's in your car?  Are police-reception radios in you car
legal?


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From: "paul griffith" <paul.griffith@canrem.com>
Subject: rs pro-58 mods?
Reply-To: "paul griffith" <paul.griffith@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:52:34 EST

Hello everyone

I have a few questions:

o Is there a way to modify a Realistic Pro-58 to scan 800Mhz ?
o Should I just sell this scanner and buy a better one ?

Thank You


Paul Griffith                    UUCP:  canrem!paul.griffith
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From: akearns@cs.ulowell.edu (Adam Kearns)
Subject: Lowell Fire Freq. Wanted
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:19:28 GMT

	Hi.  I'm looking for the frequency for the Lowell Fire Department.
(Lowell, MA)  When I left school last May, it was 154.010Mhz, but now they
don't seem to be using it any more, so I assume it has changed.  If anyone
can send me the new frequency or other information, it would be much
appreciated.  Thanks.

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From: chl@ackerman.cba.csuohio.edu (Chuck Liggett)
Subject: Re: Pro-37 for sale (2 days old!!)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:16:36 GMT

In article <1apep6INN37v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith) writes:
>
>
>
>I have a pro-37 for sale.  I love it, but I really need a base unit.  YES,
>it has been modified for CELLULAR!!  Complete 800 mhz range!!  For specs,
>look back a few messages at the pro-34 being sold.  This is there
>latest/best handheld, with 200 channels, and Hyperscan.  
>
>Scan Rate 25 or 8 channels a second
>Search Rate 50 or 8 channels a second.
>
>Sells for $299.  I will sell for $250 or best offer.  It is two days old, I
>would take it back, but the box accidently got thrown away.  I still have
>the owners manual and recipt though.  Leave mail.

Let me get this right...  You bought it two days ago, and in that time,
you modified it for cellular coverage and since that instant, you
decided that you don't want it anymore ?????

Man!  You shoulda bought the base unit right off the bat!

Chuck


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From: kenw@col.hp.com (Ken Wyatt)
Subject: Re: Frequency Counter Accuracy
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:48:11 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
> retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Joe J Retzer) writes:
> >I recently purchased a Startek BG-15 frequency counter. I tried to test
> >its effectiveness with a cordless phone and a CB radio (not MY cb, but
> >one that belonged to a friend ;-). In any case I'm a little dissapointed.
> >I could'nt get any reading below about 52 MHZ on the phone (which I assume
> >is in the 49 MHZ range) and the readings I did get were not stable, implying
> >that it was not locking onto a frequency. 
> *----
> These things have poor input sensitivity and very little filtering,
> so they're not very good for anything, audio or RF, as far as I can
> tell.  You will probably have better luck if you connect your
> transmitter to the freq. counter through a pad instead of using an
> antenna.  Be sure the pad has sufficient loss so you don't swamp
> the front end of the freq. counter.
> --
> 	Mike Berger
> 	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
> 	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
> 	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu

I don't know much about the Startek models, and they may have poor sensitivity;
but my Optoelectronics 2800H has -fine- sensitivity.  I'm able to pick up
transmitters from 25 to 500 feet away, depending upon transmit power output.
A good frequency counter will have -no- filtering (it better _not_ :-)  ).
The Opto Model 2810 works -fine- at audio and rf frequencies.

It's true about cordless phones.  They have very weak signals, and are
difficult to receive, although mine will lock on at about 2-3 feet.

If you elect to connect a transmitter directly to the input of one of these
"frequency finders", you will -definitely- require a pad (or attenuator) of
20-40 dB.  My unit has about 40 dB gain in the front end.  The devices used
are Minicircuits MAR-6 uW ICs, which have a broadband frequency range of
1 - 2000 MHz with a noise figure of around 2.8 dB.
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From: "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@canrem.com>
Subject: cellular interception
Reply-To: "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:20:00 EST

WS>Someone had taped a cell-phone conversation between 2 political aids
  >in Quebec.  The tape, or a copy, or a transcript (etc) found its way

I was under the impression that evesdropping on private
  >communications was ok so long as either
  >a) it was not taped or
  >b) it was not taped for playback to another party.

In Canada, as far as eavesdropping or wiretapping laws are concerned, you can
record or monitor any private conversation to which YOU are a party, without
having to inform the party/parties with whom you are talking.

Monitoring radiocommunications, however, it regulated by the Radio-
Communications act, and the General Radio Regulations made thereunder. Section
9, I believe, covers divulging or making use of intercepted communications.
In essence, you cannot divulge or make use of any conversation unless it was
originated by an amateur station, a broadcast station or a station initiating
a distress call.  (There are several lesser clauses too, but they're not
relevant here).

HOWEVER:  Every time a case of this nature gets before ajudge it has been
thrown out, the common wisdom being that if a radio which can be easily
obtained - to wit a scanner from Radio Shack, etc, - can intercept a
conversation without the assistance of descramblers or other specialized
equipment, then it's fair game to do with that signal whatever you like. This
type of case was very common in the Toronto area many years ago when police
were trying to get rid of police scanners in vultures - I'm sorry- tow trucks.
Not one conviction, to my knowledge at least, was ever recorded.

So in short, remember there is absolutely NO limit in Canada as to what you
can legally receive on your scanner (radar detectors, sadly, are another
matter, sigh...), but there ARE laws to prevent you from divulging what you
hear.  However, they are strictly unenforceable.  Thus the Quebec ruling.

I hope this clears things up a smidgen.

Peter Dougherty
VE3-THX

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