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From: rama@ANDY.BGSU.EDU (Sub Ramakrishnan)
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Subject: Re: Compiler for NEXT-systems?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:09:43 GMT
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Peter Barneveld writes, in response to Onno's query:
>In the cim project is a "compiler" for NeXT systems
>available. Below you'll find the cim README file. (..deleted..)
>This directory contains compiled versions of the cim system.
>sun4.cim.tar.Z      maud.ifi.uio.no     sparc

I am curious as to what this compiler is for?
Is it a simula compiler? If so is it a full
blown version comparable to commercial simula
from lund inc..? Hope someone would elaborate it.
Thank You
Dr. Sub Ramakrishnan         Internet: rama@truth.bgsu.edu
Dept of Computer Science     Bitnet:   rama@bgsuopie
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, OH 43403      Voice: 419 372 2337. Fax:419 372 8061
From: mas@INFORMATIK.UNI-KIEL.DBP.DE (Meinolf Asshoff)
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Subject: Re: Where is simula a.s.???
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:10:16 GMT
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Hallo,
wenden Sie sich an Hr. Rupflin in Dortmund, er vertritt Simula a.s. in
Deutschland: wr@polly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Er ist sehr hilfsbereit in allen Fragen !

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:01:57 +0100
From:         Peter Barneveld <peter@FENK.WAU.NL>
Subject:      Re: Compiler for NEXT-systems?
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Sub Ramakrishnan writes:
>I am curious as to what this compiler is for?
>Is it a simula compiler? If so is it a full
>blown version comparable to commercial simula
>from lund inc..? Hope someone would elaborate it.
>Thank You

As I understand it, cim is meant not to be a
high-end simula system, but to make Simula
available on as many systems as possible. This is
done by converting the Simula code to (unreadable) C
code which can be compiled on many, many systems.
Because C is a bit system dependent, for each system
a different cim "compiler" is available.
The resulting executable runs of course slower than
would be possible with a true compiler. In addition,
the cim packages suffer from rather serious bugs mostly
related to nesting (at least does the sun4 system).
The cim-team is very cooperative to fix the bugs, so
everyone is encoraged to use cim and to bring it at
a higher level.

Peter

ps. Note that cim (currently) doesn't provide a debugger.
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Subject:      Information about SIMSCRIPT II.5

Does anybody  knows some interest group on  SIMSCRIPT II.5, or  some information

I would appreciate this information

Francisco Morfin

Fmorfin@itesocci.iteso.gdl.mx
From: OVS@RC.RUG.NL (O.van.Schalkwijk)
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Subject: Compiler for NEXT-systems?
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:26:15 GMT
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Dear Simula friends,

Does anybody know about a compiler (under construction) for NEXT-
systems?

Onno

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From:         Waldemar Zurowski <WALDEK@PLEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      UUENCODER

   Hi,
I'm looking for UUENCODER for Amiga. I have UUDECODER (from Amiga Startup File)
 but I would like to send something, not only receive. Can someone help me?

 Bilbo.

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From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER])
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Subject: Re:    HELP!! My amiga won't let me open icons/windows
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Quoted from <...unknown> by <TPATTERS@ESTEC.BITNET>:
> My amiga has turned on me! My set up is A500+, GVP 120Mb HD, KCS Powerboard,
> 2Mb in the GVP, 1.3/2.0 Kickstart switch. The problem is that I came back to
> my amiga not having used it for a week or so. Turned it on, booted up from
> HD and then tried to open the HD icon. It changed to a selected icon form
> but no window appeared. When I tried to move/re-size the workbench window
> the pointer froze. I re-booted and it happened again. Also when using 1.3
> mode. Thinking it might be a virus, I unplugged the HD and tried to boot
> from a floppy Workbench disk. Same result. I guess it must be a hardware
> failure. Can anybody earn my eternal gratitude by telling me what's wrong
> and how to fix it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tim

	Try swapping the CIA chips on your Mother Board and see
what happens.  If the problem seems to correct itself, then it is
one of your CIA Chips that has gone bad and you will need new ones.

Carlos
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From:         "(Herbert I Brown)" <hibrown@CS.ALBANY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A4000

	From: Jim Loomis <LOOMIS%ITHACA.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>

	Next to Ray's Supply, you probably need to journey west on the T-way to
	Industrial Color Lab, Liverpool, NY to find a dealer, although there may
	be someone closer in the Albany area.

	Herb?

	Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
	        Director, Telecommunications Facilities
	        Roy H. Park School of Communications
	        Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY 14850-7256 USA

The tri-city area (Albany, Schenectady, Troy) used to have 4 Amiga
dealers (not counting Ray's Supply). Now there are only two: one in
Latham and one in Schenectady. Unfortunately, neither wishes to
actively participate in Commodore's Educational Plan. Neither wishes
to be an Educational Dealer. They are not satisfied with the deals
that CBM gives them. It's quite sad.

Herb


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From:         Marco@AMIGA.HSE.NL
Subject:      MMU programming

Is it possible to program the MMU (in a 68030) in such a way that it
generates an address error when the CPU tries to access a word or longword
at an odd address ?
Can anybody recommend a good book on programming the MMU ?

Marco.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:57:00 EDT
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: drives clicking?

I like setnoclick.  It is compatible with WB2.xx.  Some versions of NoClick are
not.  Also, if you have an external drive which is sometimes turned off, you
can use the routine:

        assign exists >nil: df1:    ;for df1:
        if not warn
                addbuffers 25   ;don't waste those buffers!
                setnoclick 1    ;for df1:
                mount a:        ;possibly
        endif

Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
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        Roy H. Park School of Communications
        Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY 14850-7256 USA
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:24:39 EDT
From:         sullivan_m@CSVAX1.UCC.IE
Subject:      VistaPro

I`ve got my hands on a few fractal generating programs, and I need to know just
how good VistaPro is before I fork out the cash for it. Has anyone out there
used it yet??

  Matt
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Subject: Re: NEC 3FGX monitor
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:01:00 GMT
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    what about the loop montiors? What modes will they support?
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:36:00 EDT
From:         ARGO <FRASER50@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A4000

     Actually there is one closer in Watertown.  The place is called Computer
 Warehouse
It is on Arsinal ST next to the Salvation Army store.  They just picked up the
Amiga line 1 year to six months ago. All I've seen so far in my two visits is an
    A500 (display) and on the next visit an A2000 (display). I've asked for pric
   es
and they've gotten them pretty quick. If you have any questions about what
kind of service and products handled, I',m sure they would be glad to answer
They've been realy helpful went i've been there.

fraser50@snypotva
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:16:00 EDT
From:         QCZUSEA@IUP.BITNET
Subject:      Re: upgrade: Final Copy to FC II

sJim writes:
>        I received a letter last week about upgrading from Final Copy to
>Final Copy II. It costs $30.00 plus $5.00 shipping until October 31, 1992.
>After that, the upgrade costs the difference in price; $60.00. This was from
>the company that wrote it: SmartSoft. I don't work for them, etc. just letting
>you know of an upgrade path... DJ aka JimP.
>
>--
> Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
> jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
>  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)


        Jim,
        I also received this letter, and thought that the upgrade was worth it.
 Soft Wood has included a MUCH bigger dictionary and thesarus in the new
version, and has also included a number of features that were missing from the
first, like being able to type over graphics, and a better scrolling utility in
the main editor.  It is STILL missing foot notes and endnotes, the ability to
set up a decent outline format, or preset style sheets for those of us that use
the MLA formats.  On this note, Soft Wood HAS included a new utility that will
allow you to set up YOUR OWN style sheet, so that you can have a number of (user
defined) preset styles that your document could be set up in, without having to
sit there each time you start a new document, fighting it out with the
machine...  It would be nice if you could also define columns within a page,
instead of AS a page, but I guess that you get what you pay for, and for only
$60 US, the origional FC was a hell of a bargan!
        I ordered my FCII yesterday and am eargly awaiting the arival of my
upgrade (SW said that it should be here by thursday of next week).  When I get
it, I will be posting a review, unless someone else has beaten me to it.

                        Rabid Spinach
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From: LANDAS88@SNYPOTVA.BITNET (The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair.)
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Subject: Multitasking.
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:17:00 GMT
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Date sent: 16-OCT-1992

Hi guys,
   I've been seeing a lot of people extoll the virtues or pre-emptive
multitasking over cooperative multitasking.  Could someone summerize the
differences quickly for me.  I was just wondering what the hub-bub was all
about.  OH, and to all the people who sent me info on booting a WB 2.0
partition and WB 1.3 partition thanks bunches.  MY freind jsut got his working
fine and as soon as my replacement 2.0 chip comes in I'm gonna set mine up.

-Nyle
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From: MOOREL@CWU.BITNET
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Subject: Re: NEC 3FGX monitor
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:26:00 GMT
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That was my first choice but I didn't like the screen as much as the NEC.
                                        -Lloyd-
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:08:19 +0100
From:         wetzels@AMC.UVA.NL
Subject:      Re: UUENCODER

>
>
>   Hi,
>I'm looking for UUENCODER for Amiga. I have UUDECODER (from Amiga Startup File)
> but I would like to send something, not only receive. Can someone help me?

Just ask archie

Frank

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:22:01 EDT
From:         "(Daniel Roman)" <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM>
Subject:      Re: GEnie re: Zen and the art of Internet
              7,
              92 10:32 am

JIM PIERCE writes:
>   I guess he will have to upload it somewhere on Internet as I doubt if
> GEnie is connected to Internet; i.e. no telnet/ftp from here to there.
> I had heard about two months ago that GEnie was working on an Internet
> gateway for its users, but I have heard nothing since then.
GEnie is on Internet but in beta test.  During this trial beta test
period the price for sending and receiving Internet mail is $10 per
month, much too high IMHO.  After beta test the real pricing policy is
supposed to be announced, it better not be any higher!

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Subject: RE: WB 2.0 Questions
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:00:00 GMT
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Date: FRI, OCT 16, 1992,  8:14 AM
To  : VAX MAIL (I-AMIGA@RUTVM1.BITNET) / INTERNET
From: JEFF-SARGEANT

Subject:  RE: WB 2.0 Questions

An addendum to Nyle's post...

When I ordered the SWITCHIT from Grapevine they sent me ICD's new
KICKBACK rom switcher, which works the same way.  Either one is less than
US$40.00.

Also, regarding AGNUS (1/2 mb), FAT AGNUS (1 mb), and FATTER AGNUS (2 mb).
This is how it was explained to me (all disclaimers apply - this could be
a bunch of hooey |-) ):

AGNUS and FAT AGNUS come with 1/2 mb of CHIP RAM.  The FAT AGNUS has the
ability to address a full mb of CHIP RAM but the A500 only "tells" it about
the original 1/2 mb.  By cutting a pair of traces and joining another one
you can cause the 500 to address the RAM in the expansion slot as CHIP ram,
and no longer as FAST ram as it is originally.  So, even if you make the
trace cuts to enable the CHIP ram, you must have the FAT AGNUS since the old
AGNUS can't address anything above 1/2 mb.  The FATTER AGNUS comes with its
own 2mb of RAM and is fully capable of addressing it.  But you still need
to modify the 500 to accept this 2mb.  That's why products like the DKB
CHIP ram expander comes with its own daughterboard so you don't have to
make the modifications yourself.

If you order a FAT AGNUS from Grapevine they will send you some *VERY* faint
copies of the motherboard schematics with an explanation as to how and
where you cut the traces.  NOTE:  While not difficult there is little margin
for error!  You could trash your motherboard. -(

Jeff
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    I finally sat behind an A4000 today (nope, not mine (I wish), I
  will have mine at end of the month).

  I didn't see any scan lines on the workbench (MultiScan-Productivity),
  I boosted the beast into 1280x400 in 256 colors (WOW!).

  SYSINFO RATED IN SPEED AGAINST STANDARD A500: 38.9 (38.9 times Faster!)
  "       "     "  MIPS: 17

  Workbench 3.0 is different (well how much to 2.1 not sure, but to 2.04
  a lot).  The Prefs drawer has a lot of re-done setup programs.  The
  palette requester has a color wheel (nice!).  The Sound editor, lets
  you select a sound to occur when you get a ALERT (BEEP noise).
  The Pointer editor is a lot better, it lets you set the mouse pointer
  size to HiRes or LowRes (default size).
  The scan-lines / interlace didn't occur, except interlace in a few
  of the video modes I went into (note: I didn't use many of them because
  of time (there are a lot of them!)).  It was nice to view 256 color
  pictures on the Workbench in a window and still have the workbench remain
  in it's original colors. Photo quality, is all I can say about the
  pictures I viewed, it's something to see (may not be 24bit, but man!)!

  Hard drive seemed fast, and for some reason so did the floppy drive
  (somewhat, maybe I am dreaming about the floppy speed).

  CrossDOS is easy to setup, just go to the Storage Drawer and go to
  DosDrivers, and click PC0 or PC1 (df0:,df1:).

  Shell wise I didn't use this much, had to much fun in workbench!
  That MagicMenu (like silicon graphics menu) worked great on the A4000,
  using the 030 version.  I stuck AmigaToDoubleNTSC in the WBStartup
  drawer. I ran out of time to see if it works, but I will next time.

  Greens plays great on it, but Links utterly crashed (strange crash, it
  sounded like the A4000 was in pain, hehehe, then the screen went blank.)
  I rebooted it, and it was all well, man does it boot up fast!

  Should you buy this instead of the A3000 or A3000T?
   Yes, if you are not wanting a Tower go get the A4000 it's worth it!
   I wouldn't be surprised if the A4000T comes out early next year.
  Can you imagine future games in 256 to 256,000 colors out of 16.8mil !?!?!

Paul
"Victoria Principle looks good in 256 colors! and 256,000!"

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