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From: Linton.Miller@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Linton Miller)
Subject: Re: N.Z.ers in the  Olympics
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:15:28 GMT


Further result from my (incomplete) memory

Our best result to date - Congratulations to Gary Anderson for the
bronze medal in the 4km time trial.  It's our first medal of the games
(though I hope not our last) and the first ever olympic medal we've won
in cycling.

The yatchies have been going for two days now.  I don't know what
happened last night, but after the first day's sailing,  we had a mixed
bag of results.  Best of the bunch was Babara Kendall, with a 1st and a
10th in her two board sailing races, leaving her 2nd overall.  Rod
Davis and partner (again memory fails me as to who) had a 3rd and a 4th
in their two races.  The womens 470s were disqualified for being over
the line in their first race. I don't know what happened in the second.

Our swimmers have finally reached final.s  Phillipa Langrell (sp?) made
a final (of the 800m freestyle I think) - don't know how she did
though.  I also think someone else made a final, but I didn't hear who
it was.

The equestrian team showed they were far from washed up with some
excellent cross-country performances.  After about three quarters of
the field had run, Andrew Nicholson was leading, with approx. 70
penalties.  Vikki Latta was close behind on ~80 faults, and considering
protesting a call that cost her 10 points.  Blythe Tait recovered from
his poor dressage performance (he was placed 69th after it) to pick up
only 18 penalties in the cross-country, leaving him on approx. 96. 
Mark Todd had yet to run when I went to sleep.  Anyone know how he
did???

Go Kiwi !

Linton
----------------------------------------------------
Linton Miller (lmiller@comp.vuw.ac.nz)
Department of Computer Science, Victoria University,
Wellington, New Zealand.
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: University Fees
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:42:03 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul30.091832.3176@otago.ac.nz>, clive@otago.ac.nz (Clive Boock) writes:
>     The above fees, along with the allowances scheme introduced last year which
> only gives about 60% of the student population any form of government
> assistance, now means that many students will leave university with large debt
> burdens, something which used to be only associated with universities in the
> United States. 
>    The brave new world of monetarism now ensures that education will soon become
> the preserve of the wealthy.
> 
> 
> Clive H. Boock, University of Otago, New Zealand.    

	Yeah, I know what you mean.  When I go to the bank and they see I'm
'only' in debt by about $4000 in my fifth year,  they say I'm in a better
position than most  -  such as my girlfriend's brother,  indebted $30,000!  But
then,  higher education has always been a domain for the more well-off,  if
it's not money that discerns who enters it's also a lot to do with upbringing
and the general  family situation too.

	Jonathan,
	University of Waikato.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re:  Boring topics
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:43:03 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: It's Home, really...

In article <Brrn00.D4n@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Cook Woodbury) writes:
>The reason the topics are boring is that very few
>women are participating...:-)

    Ahh, but those that are more than make up in quality the lack of
    quantity .... <grin>
>--
>Marsha Woodbury   marsha-w@uiuc.edu
>"A metaphor is like a simile."
>writing from Urbana, IL, courtesy of the University of Illinois

--
 Liam Greenwood ------ liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz ------ Wanganui, N.Z.
                Don't tell my Mother I'm a programmer,
              she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: French and other visas???
From: cytogen@chmeds.ac.nz (Martin Kennedy)
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:48:13 +1300

In article <1992Jul29.122104.3170@otago.ac.nz>, witbrock@otago.ac.nz writes:
> What about other european countries?
> I'm about to go to England, but I want to do some touring about too.
> How recently did France change its policy?
> 
> Ann
> -- 
> Ann Witbrock        


Ann -
If you have a UK (ie EC) passport, you can move around most parts
of Europe freely.  Various places like Hungary, Czechoslovakia 
require Visa's for everybody;  Kiwi's can tour many places like
Holland, Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, France, without
visa, but I think the odd country (possibly Spain) still require
visa.  Your travel agent can tell you whic ones, and he/she can 
arrange them from this end given sufficient time.

Cheers
Martin>
From: cory@akix.uucp (Cory Krell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Help on sending beer to NZ
Keywords: New Zealand, gift, beer!
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:23:11 GMT
Organization: ALS Imaging

Hi,
Last year I had the good fortune to visit New Zealand.  When I was there,
I spend a few nights at someone's house in Aukland who loved Michelob beer.
As a thank-you, I'd like to send him some, since I guess it's either 
hard to come by, or too expensive to buy.

Does anyone know what laws/etc. there are regarding sending a give of
some beer to New Zealand?  

If someone could e-mail me, I'd appreciate it very much.


Thanks in advance,
  - Cory

--------------
Cory Krell

email:
{ncr-sd,ucsd}!serene!akix!cory
{nosc,ucsd,hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!akix!cory
  - or if all else fails -
cory@akix.uucp
From: isilver@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: RE: N.Z.ers in the  Olympics
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:34:21 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada


      A singular advantage of possessing three citizenships, is
that one can get all dewy-eyed over three national anthems, with
athletes of whichever country, standing tall and giving one pride
(though I'd be hard-put to be too proud of the Pommiebastard
part of me - drugs, indeed...tsk tsk....we Canadians/New Zealand-
ers would NEVEr, etc., etc.).
      Amazingly, the one who cheers loudest in our family for
'his' N.Z. team, is my son, who was born in Canada, & has never
visited G-dzone.
      Still, coverage in Canada is very xenophobic, as it is in
the U.S. So much for all this hands-across-the-world crap. When
it comes to international competition, the grab for the gold is
all that counts.
      Loyally,
      Ian
From: @ee.surrey.ac.uk (null)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: French visas for Kiwis???
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:43:35 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England


We dont need one any more for tourist visits.
I went to France last year in october and again this
year at easter, sans visa, pas de problem. The only thing that
nearly caused a problem was that I had a very recently expired visa
from the days when you did need one, and the guy in the airport
pointed to it, and was just working himself up into a fine gallic rage,
when he realised I didnt need one anymore anyway.

There was a thread in rec.travel about french visas.
It was about what a nightmare it is to get a visa for
people who do need one. So pity the aussies. They dont have
it all bad though. I enquired a while back about Czech
visas for NZers and was told they were 30 quid 
(90 NZ doleurs (?)) or so, alot to part with.
I asked about what it would cost an australian,
and the guy at the embassy said 4quid. So I asked
how come we had to pay so damn much. "Eez resi-proe-sippy"
came the stronly east european accented reply.
So blame the NZ government. This was in iron-curtain days.

-- 
Dept Elec Eng, Uni. of Surrey           Email: g.nicholls@uk.ac.surrey.ee 
Guildford, Surrey, GU2 5XH, U.K.          Phone:    (0483) 300800 ex 2322
"Reason and Justice tell me that there is more love of man in electricity 
 and steam, than in chastity and refusal to eat meat" - Chekov of Tolstoy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Trivia and parliament
From: patrick@actrix.gen.nz (Pat Cain)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:39:32 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: interesting facts, major fire at parliament


On Sunday the top floor of the historic Parliament Buildings
(i.e., the one next to the beehive) was gutted.  Cause is believed
to be an electrical fault.  The floor was due to be demolished shortly
as aprt of a $164 million refurbishment.

It's the second time there has been a major fire in NZ's Parliament
Buildings, the last one in 1907 -- the present one burnt yesterday
was opened in 1912 to replace it.

These days mainly the Beehive and an office block across the road
are used for housing politicians.  The old debating chamber was
not damaged by the fire.

And some recently released trivia:

(> It takes 2.10 births per woman to replace the New Zealand
   population (3,434,950), assuming no migration

(> New Zealand is one of the most monolingual nations in the
   world, with 90 percent speaking only English

(> Between 9.00pm and 10.00pm on Friday, Saturday and Sunday
   are the most dangerous times to be on New Zealand roads;
   most motor accidents occur in those hours

(> New Zealand has one of the highest imprisonment rates
   in the world, second only to Canada and the US.  In 1991
   it cost an average of $35,000 to keep a prisoner in a
   medium-security prison, and $60,000 a year to keep one
   in a maximum-security prison.

(> Only 53 percent of New Zealand families comprise mum, dad
   and the children.  One in eight households has a breadwinner
   father and a housewife mother.

(> Of all couples married in 1980, 16 percent had divorced before
   their 10th anniversary, nearly double the percentage of
   couples who had married in the mid-60s.

(> Auckland's workforce is larger than the entire workforce of
   the South Island.

(> New Zealanders spend $130 million a year on newspapers.

(> In 1991 local authoritiy libraries made 38 million issues
   and held over 8.5 million books.

(> 52 percent of all university students are woman.

(> For every 100 charges brought against ment from shoplifting
   offences in 1990, 134 women were charged.

(> New Zealand produces only 1.5 precent of the world's milk
   and 25 percent of world dairy products.

(> New Zealanders are the biggest users of wool in the world.

(> We eat $100 million worth of ice cream each year.

(> In 1991, New Zealand shoemakers made 5.4 million pairs
  of shoes -- nearly two pairs for every New Zealander.

(> The most visited attrraction in the country is Huka
   Falls, where 350,000 people go each year.
------
Taken from The Listener, 1 Aug 1992 - from 1991 census info.
-- 
Pat Cain, PO Box 2060, Wellington, NZ  ()  em: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: Help on sending beer to NZ
Keywords: New Zealand, gift, beer!
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:07:00 GMT

In article <BrxLqn.36r@akix.uucp> cory@akix.uucp (Cory Krell) writes:
>Hi,
>Last year I had the good fortune to visit New Zealand.  When I was there,
>I spend a few nights at someone's house in Aukland who loved Michelob beer.
>As a thank-you, I'd like to send him some, since I guess it's either 
>hard to come by, or too expensive to buy.

Forget about sending this guy some beer. Tell him to get himself to a
hospital of some sort as soon as possible! A Kiwi who LIKES American
beer??? Unbelievable! 

Andrew M.
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Boring topics
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:05:19 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul22.143635.9540@waikato.ac.nz>, maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> In article <Brrn00.D4n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Cook Woodbury) writes:
>> The reason the topics are boring is that very few
>> women are participating...:-)

	You might have a point - have you ever read alt.romance?
From: williamsa@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ in the news---not
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:39:52 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

In article <11991@inews.intel.com>, rrao@pima.intel.com (Ravi Rao) writes:
> 	PLAIN SIMPLE FACT..... TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
> 		Americans are not interested in most items unless/until there
> 		is a personal stake involved....

That's what makes Americans pretty much the same as everyone else in the
world.

> 
>>participants in this newsgroup, the world readership might get a
>>reasonable perspective on what the people as a whole are like.  It might
>>be an interesting experiment.
> 	You don't take chances with international knowledge contests. Chances are
>    you'll end up losing, so quit while (seemingly) ahead......
> 
> Just my $0.2(American) worth!!
          ^^^^^
P.S.
Did you mean to say 'Just my twenty cents worth' ?

Alan

> ____________________________________________________
> Ravi S. Rao
> SP1-82	Intel Corpn, Chandler, AZ
> 
> e-mail: rrao@hopi.intel.com, rrao@pima.intel.com
> ____________________________________________________
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: M.Steven@uws.edu.au (Mike Steven)
Subject: Re: Rugby and politicians
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:27:44 GMT

In article <J36BoB1w165w@sideways.welly.gen.nz>, Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz> writes:
> 
> The rugby tonight in Aussie vs Syndey was a disaster.. MAJOR loss for
> the allblacks.
> 
The failure of the NZRFU to discipline Richard Low for the indefensable late
tackle (?) on Carrozzo in the 2nd test is an utter disgrace and takes NZ rugby's 
credibility back to the dark years that followed the Springbok tour. Low should
be seen for what he is, an animal, and it is high time the Rugby Union acceeded
to public opinion and cleaned up the game. The referees may not have seen the
incident but every TV viewer did.  Until the Union gets tough on arseholes like
Low it is very difficult, as a NZer living in Australia to support one's
national team, and the utter humiliation they suffered at the hands of a minor
side last night is sweet justicelong may it continue. May the Wallabies rub
their noses in the dirt again on Saturday!!

Now that should start a nice flame war.

Mike
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Boring topics
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:56:25 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Wow,  the last time I logged into this Newsgroup there were all sorts of good
discussions going,  fun topics such as satanism and the deviant nature of New
Zealanders.  Now it's the weather (sigh),  money,  and computers.  Still, I
suppose they're three things that affect everyone using the network.

Jonathan.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: New banknotes
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:48:21 +1200
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <cma851.711365754@huxley>, cma851@huxley.anu.edu.au (Brenton LeMesurier) writes:
> 
>     Does anybody know how long it took the Australian $1 and $2 bills to
> disappear after the coins came in?  Or the equivalent changes in other
> countries?

In New Zealand, $1 and $2 coins started appearing around February of last
year (officially they were issued late in 1990). For the first couple of 
weeks or so you never knew what you would be handed in change (notes or 
coins), and within a couple of months, it was most unusual to see a note. 
The notes are now long gone (although there are bound to be a few lurking 
under couch cushions still), and we have got used to the coins, although I 
often find my wallet containing $10 worth of coins because I haven't looked 
in there when paying for something.

A new 20 cent coin was introduced at the same time as the $1 and $2 coins - 
this was because the $1 features a kiwi, which was formerly featured on the 
20 cent - but I have not seen one of these new coins in circulation yet. 
That shows how much longer coins last.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: New banknotes
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:27:09 +1200
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <3532@keele.keele.ac.uk>, cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
> more and that this showed a decline in the nation's moral fibre. Another
> set of complaints were about the fact that the bridge the Rocket is
> steaming over on the new note (it still exists) had been incorrectly
> engraved.
> 

Well, there's a letter in tonight's Evening Post, suggesting that Sir 
Edmund Hillary should have combed his hair before having his picture taken 
for the new $5 note. I thought it was deliberate, to give him that rough, 
outdoor appearance - I don't think combing your hair is at the top of the 
priority list when climbing a mountain.

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From: ishima@aegis.or.jp (Isamu Shimazaki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Thanks Jonathan.
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:16:52 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

Hello,it's the time we start.
It's the time we visit New Zealand.
we will stay at Mackenzie farm,that is farmstay, for a week.
It's near Auckland.

There are many members in Waikato University,I think.

To New Zealand.
Isamu Shimazaki

--
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JUNET: ishima@aegis.or.jp (within Japan)
BITNET: ishima%aegis.or.jp@jpnkyoto.bitnet (international)
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Boring topics
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:06:43 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


> 
> Anyway to change the boring subject, what do people think of the Police
> seeking to ban Ice-T from playing in New Zealand due to lyrics they
> claim advocate violence to police? For those not in the know, I'll include 
> the article here:
> 
> 
> Police are seeking to ban singer Ice T from performing in Auckland, 
> New Zealand. Police commissoner John Jamieson has referred the album Body
> Count to the Indecent Publications Tribunal and information is awaited
> from the United States Police of the backgrounds of people going to
> perform in Auckland. Mr Jamieson has objected to lyrics in the album,
> especially those in the song Cop Killer, which advocates killing police.

	What I lke most is Ice-T's retort - "If the song's so bad,  where are
all the dead cops?"

	Jonathan
> 
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: N.Z.ers in the  Olympics
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:35:53 GMT

In article <Bs6B9s.AoE@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Linton.Miller@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Linton Miller) writes:
>
>Further result from my (incomplete) memory
>
>Our best result to date - Congratulations to Gary Anderson for the
>bronze medal in the 4km time trial.  It's our first medal of the games
>(though I hope not our last) and the first ever olympic medal we've won
>in cycling.
>

What?? you are the second person to say this. Why is it that my memory
seems to be telling me that Gary Anderson won FOUR medals at the last
Olympics!! And he isn't known for anyhting other than his cycling.

Andrew M.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: elelyc@nuscc.nus.sg (Liang Yung Chii (Dr))
Subject: Re: olympics
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:12:22 GMT

In article <10703950.21.712386159@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10703950@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BENJAMIN CUTLER) writes:
>Ha Australia has won a gold medal at the olympics.
>And New Zealand has NOT!!!

There are more than two teams in the game.  And the game is still going.
Regards,
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: mike.pole@plant.utas.edu.au (Mike Pole)
Subject: French visas for Kiwis???
Organization: Plant Science, University of Tasmania
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:05:18 GMT

I have been living in Tasmania since March last year and may be a little out 
of touch with home. I have a conference in France in Sepember and applied for 
a French visa through my travel agent. My passport was returned by the French 
authorities along with a note saying New Zealanders did not need a visa for 
stays up to 90 days. Can anyone confirm this please? I needed one last year, 
and Australians certainly still need one. 

Thanks

Mike Pole
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Help on sending beer to NZ
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:33:08 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul25.220700.7698@ncar.ucar.edu>, amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
> In article <BrxLqn.36r@akix.uucp> cory@akix.uucp (Cory Krell) writes:
>>Hi,
>>Last year I had the good fortune to visit New Zealand.  When I was there,
>>I spend a few nights at someone's house in Aukland who loved Michelob beer.
>>As a thank-you, I'd like to send him some, since I guess it's either 
>>hard to come by, or too expensive to buy.
> 
> Forget about sending this guy some beer. Tell him to get himself to a
> hospital of some sort as soon as possible! A Kiwi who LIKES American
> beer??? Unbelievable! 
> 
> Andrew M.

	Andrew's right,  your friend is perverted.  I work in a pub in Hamilton
and it's very interesting seeing who drinks what.  We all know about the
pompous Steinlager,  Heineken and Coroner drinkers,  but virtually everyone
regards yank beers as being just thin,  alcoholic processed rubbish.  Hype it
enough and they'll take anything I suppose.  There have been some big
promotions for Budweiser over the years,  but it's just treated as a joke.  
	However Bud Light is gaining popularity amongst the 'sports set' who
try and pretend to be in heavy training by keeping down the calories.  If they
were serious at all they wouldn't be touching ANY beer!
	Still,  NZ has some pretty awful beers too...
	
	Jonathan.
> 
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