HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: How can I remove virtual consoles?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:33:54 CST

I4AQ (I4AQ@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA) wrote:
: I leafed through that Coherent book (which might use a more complete
: index...) and found no information on how to remove virtual consoles.
: How can I patch my kernel to remove them?  I want to the the
: /dev/console device...

The info is in the little book that came with the OS, not the
full blown manual.  The book on how to install Coherent.  You need
to run patch on the kernel and set it to no virtual consoles.

WARNING: make a copy of the kernel instead of modifying the original,
and you also need to edit /etc/ttys so that init knows to spawn
a getty for the console instead of color0, color1, etc.

To copy the kernel, go to "/" and do:
cp coherent coh.test

Then modify coh.test instead of coherent.  To boot using coh.test,
when you boot coherent at the bootstrap hit space and you'll get:
?
type: coh.test and it will boot coh.test instead of coherent.

If it works and you want coh.test to be the one booted automagically,
go to "/" again, and do this:
rm autoboot
ln coh.test autoboot

now when coherent boots it will boot the modified kernel, and the
original kernel is still in "coherent" in case you need to switch back
ever.

I learned the hard way.

The patching virtual stuff is in the booklet, so I won't go into it.

-Louis

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: dgm@corvus (David Matusow)
Subject: Re: using coherent's stime() function
Keywords: time stime coherent system root
Organization: Online Communication Consultants
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 20:52:35 GMT

Has anyone ported the info-zip programs to Coherent 4.0?  I have
checked the raven archive (pub/conherent), but have not found
this.  I would be most interested in this port.

Thanks,
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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: xmail
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:55:18 CST

Ray Mendonsa (ray@rgm.com) wrote:

: I'm a Coherent v4.0 sysop, and I like public-key cryptography.

I was wondering about xmail as well.  There is no explanation about
it in the lexicon.  Anyone know what this is for?

-Louis

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From: michael@jester.GUN.de (Michael Gerhards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: who to protect private mail ??
Keywords: 
Summary: 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: private COHERENT system
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:42:37 +0100

Hello,

The subject says it all. An user could clear the mailbox of another user,
because the permissions in /usr/spool/mail are 622. I know, that this is
important, 'cause if I take the write-permission away, noone could send mail
to my account.

But, if someone types 'cat /dev/null >/usr/spool/mail/michael', the file is
empty and all my mail is gone. 

Is it possible to change the permissions to 620, set mail setgid bin and change
all files in /usr/spool/mail to group bin ?

Michael
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From: I4AQ@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (I4AQ)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: How can I remove virtual consoles?
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:47:08 GMT
Organization: McGill University

>What I fail to comprehend is why you would want FEWER login devices
>available.
>
>Fred

<g> I want to make a boot floppy that could could machines with
different local configuration.  I had Coherent installed on a portable
and reversed an "ln -f" call while updating to a newer kernel, sent
to me by MWC...  I then proceded to backup, repartition and install
Coherent on another machine, so that I could make a boot floppy off
it and boot my portable on it and copy the new kernel on its HD.
I made the mistake of having virtual consoles on my desktop and my
portable had to use the special driver from MWCBBS to have virtual
consoles...  So my boot disk is trying to start up with the standard
US keyboard tables, and fails.  I've got many customized files on that
portable, I don't want to format it...  So, by making a non-loadable
keyboard, I should be able to boot on the portable and copy the
correct kernel on it.  (The old kernel won't boot with the modified
bins, such as fsck...)  Makes sense now? <g>
From: bob@DALEK.MWC.COM (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Terminal question
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:25:10 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

>
> Mike Tarrant writes :
> >  My question is, at a system level, how does Coherent "know" that the
> >terminal at the end of /dev/com4pl is a vt100, or a wyse50, or tvi925?
> >I know there is the TERM environmental variable in my .profile file,
> >but if I make that the terminal type, it'll be wrong when I log-on at
> >the console (ansipc).

If you know that whenever you log in on a specific that a specific terminal
will always be on that port, then you edit your .profile to include a
small script like this:

########################
case `tty` in
        /dev/com1l)     export TERM=wyse50;;
        /dev/com2l)     export TERM=vt100;;
esac
echo "TERM set to $TERM";
########################

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From: doug@ve6bc.ampr.ab.ca (Douglas R. MacKintosh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: what protocols does uucico support?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:48:01 GMT
Organization: Amateur Radio VE6BC

Other than 'g', what protocols does the Coherent uucico support? 
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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Tin pl7/8 or Trn...where????
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:56:17 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

This is yet another post begging someone to upload the newest
Tin or trn to raven.  The r70 kernel seems to have changed some
signal handling and Tin pl6 is now broken.  I've been told
that pl7 and the new trn port have fixed this.  If someone
has it, but does not have FTP service, I would be more than
happy to accept the program by email and then post it to raven.

Cheers,

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: Disk I/O speed "problem" ... NOT?
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:52:38 GMT
Keywords: hard disk

In article <930125092946@lasagne.med.yale.edu> silver@lasagne.med.yale.edu writes:
>I've done some experimentation.  It seems the "slow" disk I/O
>on my 386sx/16 toy home machine with Seagate ST1102 89 meg IDE drive 
>is not so "slow" after all under Coherent 4.0.1.
>
>After setting the m and n values to 234, 9 and running iozone
>at a 2-meg test size, I get I/O speeds of about 79k/sec for both
>reading and writing, in multiuser mode.  Yet, under MSDOS with
>CORETEST.EXE, it says about 1000k/sec.  The discrepancy was puzzling.
>
>Until I realized CORETEST uses a 64K "transfer block size" as a default
>and iozone uses 0.5k (512 byte block size) which is 'native' to the OS.
>
>When I run CORETEST using a 1K "transfer block size" (the minimum), lo 
>and behold, it says the throughput is about 40k/sec or something like that!
>In fact, I get the "best" results from CORETEST when the "block size" 
>is 37k or so on my machine.
>
>QAplus diagnostics on the hard drive say about 40K/sec also, using 
>a 1k bloxk size also, I believe.  The machine is at home and I didn't
>write that figure down so it may be incorrect, but it's in the ballpark.
>
>MSDOS accesses the disk in bigger chunks, apparently.  That's why 
>a 300,000 byte .exe file loads in a second or so.  So, COHERENT
>is making efficient use of the hardware considering the nature of its
>interaction with Mr. Hard Drive.
>
>Hopefully there is no big error in facts or logic in the above.
>
>Comments? 

When I run iozone under DOS on my drives without compression (Stacker), I also 
get worse results than I do under Coherent.  The write times are quite a bit 
better for Coherent than for DOS and the read times are comparable or better as
well.

Now I don't know if DOS accesses the disk in bigger chunks than Coherent or not
but big copies and program loads are certainly slower under Coherent.  I don't
know enough to comment on why this is the case.

Harry

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: Coherent: would you recommend it?
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:37:18 GMT

wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:

>    Would those of you who use Coherent recommend it? I am interested,
>but am convcerned about Mark Williams Co.'s technical support, and 
>bugginess of Coherent... Also, is it possible to install Coherent into
>a DOS-formatted drive, or does it need its own partition?

It needs its own partition, but may be on the same disk as the DOS
partition.  The bugginess is not too bad, I've been running it now
for about 3 weeks without a shutdown and didn't have a crash.
As to the technical support, that should be a source of encouragement
for you, not worry.  All I can say so far about MWC Tech Support is
that they are *excellent*.

t.

Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: ericm@ims.com (Eric Martinson)
Subject: Coherent 4.0 ksh
Originator: ericm@hummer
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:43:31 GMT

The ksh which is distributed with Coherent is acceptable but not
complete (at least the way I know ksh).  I seriously miss the
the following features:

	o	vi editting mode
	o	^Z, fg, bg for job control
	o	variable substitution using ${i%%pattern} or ${i##pattern}

Is anyone aware of a replacement shell which provides these capabilities?
Is the source for the ksh Coherent ships available?  In the 286 manual the
discussion of ksh says that part of it was excluded due to the memory
restrictions of small model.

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From: mooreb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: graphica(0/7)
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:29:38 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


The program GRPHCA21.ZIP is an archive.  After extracting all
files with PKUNZIP or an equivalent program , the following
files should appear as part of the GRAPHICA package:

GRAPHICA.UUE     uuencoded coherent v4.0 (executable)
GRAPHICA.HLP     help file (ascii format-may be printed)
README.1ST       quick instructions (this file)
GRAPHICA.DOC     documentation
REGISTER.DOC     contribution information
HISTORY.DOC      log of latest changes
EXAMPLES.ZIP     another archive containing example

   *.PLT         script files
   *.DAT         data files

To use the program, simply copy the unzipped contents of this
archive (all the files above) from the DOS side to the Coherent
partition of your computer.  Run uudecode on graphica.uue and
you have a Coherent executable of GRAPHICA v2.1 called graphica.

At this point in time, there are no graphics-I haven't gotten
those COHWARE libraries for VGA yet!  But you can get hpgl or
postscript output and send them to a plotter or printer.

Remember you can copy all the files with the DOSCP command.
Also, make sure that graphica.hlp as well as all the example
script and data files are copied with CRLF to LF translation
(DOS to UNIX).

For a quick demonstration of GRAPHICA's main capabilities, run
GRAPHICA and then load some of the sample script files (*.PLT).
For example,

      $ graphica (press return)
      graphica>load 'demo.plt' (press return)

Alternatively, command-line arguments may be names of files
containing GRAPHICA commands.  Then, for example,

      $ graphica demo.plt (press return)

is another way of running the demo above.

You may contact me for questions, bugs, suggestions, or
contributions at the following addresses:

      Antonio Montes
      Mailbox 13
      Leiderdorp 2350 AA
      The Netherlands

      CompuServe: 71031,1162
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From: jdb@erato.iowa-city.ia.us (John D. Boggs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: vn won't recognize commands after saving
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:55:22 +0100

A glitch has just shown up in vn here at erato.  I'm using the
news distribution that Bob set up (Thanks, Bob!), and starting
yesterday, whenever I save a file the only command that will seem
to work is "q."  vn also does this to me (and always has) when it
comes across a message that it "Can't extract from archive."

I solve the problem in both cases by quitting and restarting vn.

Has anyone else had this problem?  The only thing I've changed on my
setup lately is adding an ENV variable so I can use my aliases in sub
shells.  I'm no C programmer, or I'd check into it myself (though I
have every good intention of learning C during this semester :).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: amoroso@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (paolo amoroso)
Subject: Help for installing ELM needed
Keywords: ELM installation
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:45:51 GMT
Summary: Request of help for installing ELM and its files


I use COHERENT 4.0.1. I succesfully compiled the source code of ELM
(COHware Vol. III) and its related programs. But I had problems while
installing it:

- What are the owner, the group and the permissions to set for the
  binaries (contained en elm/bin after running make)? Do I need to
  create a new group? I will install them in /usr/local/bin.

- What are the owner, the group and the permissions to set for the help
  files (elm/doc/elm-help.*)? I will put them in /usr/local/lib.

- Since the makefile in the elm/doc directory invokes the "tbl" program
  which is not present in COHERENT, is there a better solution for
  reading the documentation than using deroff and manually editing
  the generated files?

Any suggestion will be highly appreciated.

Paolo
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: wnews 3.1 error
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 04:31:53 GMT

Stephan Forth (stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org) wrote:
: Hi networld,

: every now and then I get an active file error. One or more lines in the
: /usr/lib/news/active file are damaged. It looks like that:

: sci.physics0000214 00202 y

: but it should look like this one:

: sci.physics 00214 00202 y

: Does anybody has the same problem??

3.1 still has an kown error updating the active file if the contents are not
sorted alphabetically. Please sort your active file, this error is fixed
in the next official release from Fred, comming soon.
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From: doug@VE6BC.AMPR.AB.CA ("Douglas R. MacKintosh")
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: what protocols does uucico support?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:48:01 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

Other than 'g', what protocols does the Coherent uucico support?
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From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: System Crashes with Ckermit
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:04:36 GMT

In article <9301202024@fcshome.UUCP> fredex@fcshome.UUCP (fred smith) writes:
>Bill Pechter (trumpet-user@pechter.ocpt.ccur.com) wrote:
>: >I just installed  the  Gnu tools and the MWC driver development kit.
>: >
>: >Now I find the system crashes under the Ckermit that came with
>: >Coherent as soon as I start a file receive.  
>
>: Looks like it did it with the older Coherent 4.0.1 as well if I was in
>: multiuser mode. <grin>
>
>: Geez, I just reloaded the whole thing to discover it never worked in
>: multiuser mode at all.  I'm going to rebuild ckermit and if it works
>: in multiuser mode I'll upload to raven.alaska.edu
>
>I hate to be a wet blanket, but I'm using plain vanilla Coherent 4.0.1
>without any updated kernels and the original distribution's executable
>of Ckermit, and mine works fine! (well, I could find a thing or two to
>complain about, but it doesn't crash!).
>
>The problem might well be some strange hardware/firmware incompatibility
>in your system????

I too had a bad Ckermit shipped to me.  Apparently, there might have been a few
disks sent out with old (bad) versions of the binary.

Harry

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From: magus@DRKTOWR.CHI.IL.US (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: UUCP on disabled port
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:55:34 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

fred smith (fredex@fcshome.UUCP) wrote:
: Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:
: : Keith Lovatt (klovatt@klnet.UUCP) wrote:

: : : On my system I wish to set up a direct connection for UUCP with another
: : : system. However, I do not wish the port to be enabled. i.e. I want
: : : uucico to make the UUCP connection, do the dirty work, drop the
 connection,
: : : then leave the port disabled. Whatevere I try, I always get the port
: : : ending up enabled, then the two systems go crazy giving each other
 "login:"
: : : and "password:" prompts. This seems like a "slight" problem with uucico.
: : : Anybody have any ideas?

: : This is only in Coherent's uucico.  If you use taylor, you don't get
: : this problem.

: Hmmmmm...... Verrrrrrrry strange. I've got my modem on a port that is
: permanently disabled, and I use the standard Coherent uucp package.
: AND, I've never had this problem. Wonder what I did right?

: Ah, I just took a quick peek at my /etc/ttys file, and saw that the
: port the modem is on is not listed there. Do you suppose that has
: something to do with it?

This has everything to do with it :)  If it's not in /etc/ttys, init
doesn't spawn a getty for it.

The basic fact is that if it's in getty, one would expect that it
should be able to receive logons.  However, in many cases (like mine)
that's not always true.  I want it to accept logins sometimes, and
other times not.  Like if I'm at school, I like having the modem pick
up, but when I'm at home, sometimes I'm expecting a call.

So I guess what MWC did was logical in one way, but not very flexible
the other way.

-Louis

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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: wnews 3.1 error
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:57:29 CST

Stephan Forth (stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org) wrote:
: every now and then I get an active file error. One or more lines in the
: /usr/lib/news/active file are damaged. It looks like that:

: sci.physics0000214 00202 y

: but it should look like this one:

: sci.physics 00214 00202 y

That's a bug in w-news.  Udo posted a simple fix for it.  Make sure
your active file is sorted in alphabetical order by the name of the
newsgroup.

cat active | sort > active.new

should do it.  Then look over active.new to make sure it's OK and
do mv active.new active and you'll be OK.  Just keep the active
file in sorted order.

-Louis

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