From: rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Self-Appointed policeman, judge, jury and executioner
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:38:17 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1at4gvINNplh@overload.lbl.gov> prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.182210.25336@cbnews.cb.att.com> rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar) writes:


>>   If you want to abuse me or call me names, for saying this,
>>   go ahead and help yourself.
>
>	No thank you! That ain't my style. I would recommend a 
>
Let the netters decide for themselves what your style really is, given
the following facts.

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Art.#	people who		Entries checked out	Crime committed
	were flamed		in your flame form	by your book
					OR
				what you called fellow
				netters
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90593	smishra@HP-UX		[*] ignorant snot	posted a test note
				[*] retard
90601	eleeafj@menudo.uh.edu	[*] ignorant snot       posted a test note
				[*] retard
90611	pxm22@po.CWRU.Edu	[*] ignorant snot	posted note seeking
							roommate; you felt
							distribution should
							have been localized.
90614	das@physics.unc.edu	[*] ignorant snot	posted a test note
				[*] retard
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>>   The act of posting a test note does not deserve your kind of abuse
>>   in a public forum.
>
>	Hey man! Chill out! It was only intended as a light-hearted
>	response to test messages. No need to get you hair up over it!
>
Light hearted? Really? Do not try to convince me.

Call your loved ones using the same terms you used to
label others repeatedly. See if they buy your light-hearted-joke story!


>	And I don't remember appointing myself a policeman, judge, jury
>	and executioner. Heck, I don't even want those jobs! Not when you
>	seem to be doing such a great job of it.........
>
Why the hell do you care to flame people for such insignificant reasons,
if you are not in some sense policing the net? If you do not want
to read a note just move on. Or, learn to look at the index page first,
select only those notes that interest you and read them.

If someone who is not familiar with news software or even computers,
what is wrong with someone posting a test note, just to get started or
as they call it, to get their feet wet first? What kind of a welcome mat
are you rolling out for their very first test note?

What makes you think that these people know how to post notes and
that they are posting test notes primarily to annoy the netters,
for sadistic thrills?

This net is read by people with a very wide range of backgrounds
in terms of age, language, race, culture and
computer expertise so on  (last but not the least).

May be, just may be, you and the 12 netters, who appreciate your flame on
test notes need to give some thought to these possibilities.

In fact some of the people whom you dared to call "retards" in a public
		    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
forum such as this could be a lot older than either of us  thereby
		   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
mandating a little respect.

Some (may be all) of them are much more accomplished and better
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
people than either of us.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What gives you the right to label them arbitrarily?

Is this the indian culture that this net is supposed to promote?


>	I received 12 e-mail messages appreciating the flame. I only got 
>	two counter-flames from you and someone else who didn't seem to 
>	get the point.
>
This is not a popularity contest or an election. If you believe that the
12 responses you got does justify the labels you put on several people,
believe so. Did you ask them if they agreed with your characterization
of people as "retard"s etc? If they all do, may be the netters would
like to know who these 12 people are.

The point is, you could have said the same thing with some nice words,
without ever calling people "retards" etc. I was only objecting to the
offending characterization in your flames.


>	Interestingly, none of these were from the original 
>	Testopadhyaya.
>
Not many Testopadhyays will write to you saying something like,
	"I am not really a 'retard', please agree with me and say so
	in the net"

Do not wait for testopadhyays to contact you.


>	No thank you! That ain't my style. I would recommend a 
>	high fibre diet though......
>

About your sarcastic recommendation on diet, I got your point.
In any case, I rely on my physician for all health related information,
not on SCI!

In any case, you conveniently left out the issue of APOLOGY to those
whom you called "retard"s and "ignorant snot"s. If you haven't already
you might want do that. That is really the right thing to do.
You do not need to tell me or the net anything about it one way other.
Did you ever care to think that you might have upset some of those
people and ruined their day?

May be you are man enough not be annoyed by such words. (May be it
is because of your high fiber diet). But not everyone fits that description.

>
>	Get a lifestyle!!
>
FYI: I do already have one that I like and one that I am very comfortable
with.


Thank you for your time.
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