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From: m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters)
Subject: Faerie Tale
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean VA
     
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:55:54 GMT

So, can anyone identify what I'm referring to? :-)  If so, can you comment
on other books by him and the quality of them? Recommendations?

As usual, any help is greatly appreciated.

Mary Anne


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From: kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin Roberts)
Subject: Kings new alias?
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:14:52 GMT

A funny thing happened to me on the way to read a Robert R. McCammon book...


	A few yeard ago a friend of my mothers mentioned to me that she 
thought Stephen King had a new alias. This was about 1yr after Bachman was 
discovered. She told me how she was reading all of McCammons works and thought
they were amazingly King-like... Of course this woman was a kook anyways so I
thought nothing of it...

	Until about a month ago when I was in The Village Green (local book-
store) looking for a new author to read. I tend to read one author I like
almost exclusivly until I have read all of their works. Then I saw _Blue World
and remembered what this woman had said. I still didn't believe it but I
figured if she thought that, this guy must be almost as good as King. I made
the purchase.

	Taking the book home and reading it by daybreak I found myself 
considering the idea a little bit more. Admittedly, _Blue World_ is the 
only McCammon book I have read so far, and I had the seed of the thought
already implanted in my head, but I found what I consider amazing simularities
in this guys works and King's.

	Doom City appears to be a _Stand_ like creation, Nightcrawlers reminds
me of a King poem which I believe was called A Chant and Something Passed By 
seems to be one of King's Ultimate Evil but Unknown occurences such as The 
Mist...

	The writing remind me of King's, but as if he was "writing down" so 
as not to be caught again...

	I still don't know if I believe it or not, but I am entertaining the
thought half-heartedly...  My idea of this may be due to the memory or due
to my actual desire to read something by King that day, but alas there was
nothing new...

	I tend to doubt King would bother with a new alias, but if
I found out he had one outh there. This would be the name I would guess.
Oh well.... I suppose I'll read some more of this guy's works and see
what I think then....

kmr...
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From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY)
Subject: Re: _Necronomicon_ not inspired by _King in Yellow_
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:47:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.235032.15747@grebyn.com> fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:

>T. Kurt Bond writes:
>As for _The_King_in_Yellow_, that book is currently in my top spot for
>weird tale acquisitions, so if anyone knows of a source for a cheap
>(preferably paperback) edition, let me know.  I've just about bought

when i was working in the aforementioned crappy bookstore, a book came out 
called "the 100 best books of horror" and i tried to order every one of 
them -- only about 15 or 20 are still in print. the only way (that i know) 
you'll be able to find a copy of "the king in yellow" is used. (i did find 
too copys of lord dunsany's "book of wonder" like that.)
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:55:55 -0400 
From: Todd Keenan Bowman <tb0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Skipp and Spector...

Skipp and Spectre's first two books remain some of my favorite horror novels
of all time:  "The Light at the End" and "The Cleanup". Both of these books are
sey in NYC's Greenwich Village/Soho areas and portray the areas with a great
deal of detail and accuracy.

Light at the End is still my all-time favorite vampire novel. It is a great
twist on the genre setting the vampire as an undead trendy village dude w/ the
hunters being a squad of bike messengers. Highly original and lots of fun.
Pretty merciless in disposing of the main/good guy/good girl characters too.

The Cleanup is a great twist on the Vigilante theme w/ a village guy being
given unlimited powers to "clean up NY". Some pretty graphics stuff and nowhere
near as good as Light at the End.

The Scream was very good too. (I believe it was recently re-released
in paperback)

I didn't care much for DeadLines.

I haven't read the Bridge yet.  (recommendation??)

t
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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: SK's Dark Tower series
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:51:29 GMT
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In article <1992Jul24.021615.25905@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.124840.19026@cs.tulane.edu> jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan) writes:
>>As for the Overlook being in The Stand, I had never thought about it,
>>but I don't think it is so. Not because "It is burned" but because
>>it is a bad place. The guy in the Stand (Sorry, I can't remember his
>>name) (wait, was it Stu? I don't remember...) needed a place to stay
>>so that he and Tom Cullen didn't freeze... or are you all talking about
>>a different hotel in the Stand? OK I have now succeeded in thouroughly
>>confusing myself... My point is that I don't think that The Overlook
>>would have let them shelter themselves there.
>
>       Regarding the Overlook in the Stand, it was just speculation, but I
>think that impression first came to me because of a statement that Stu Redman
>felt uneasy in the otherwise harmless hotel.  Also the geographical location
>seemed to fit (atop a mountain).  I remember Stu being eager to leave the
>place a.s.a.p.  It's been a while since I've read the Stand and this is all
>speculation, so no flames please.  If I am incorrect, I would appreciate it
>if someone gave us the info I'm referring to (if it exists and isn't just my
>imagination).

The Overlook... this is the hotel where Jason (I forgot his earthly name)
and his mother were staying when he left, right? Or is it the place where
Jason went to find the Talisman? Either way, it was on a beach, one on
the Atlantic and the other was on the Pacific. The hotel where Stu stayed
was somewhere in the Rockies, wasn't it? Because he didn't have to go
all the way to the coast to find Flagg.
>
>       Also, all you DT fans, prepare for a very long wait on that cliffhanger
>ending.  DT IV and V are supposed to be mostly flashback explaining how the
>world moved on (source: oversized, illustrated Gunslinger).  I believe the
>fourth is called "The Wizard and (in?) Glass".  The name of Book Five is also
>mentioned, but I can't recall it.

I believe it's _Wizards And Glass_... Sounds interesting, I can't wait...
(Don't know about book 5.)

Meow...
Misti
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From: kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe)
Subject: sorry
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 04:35:05 GMT
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Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

hmmmmmmmmmm....my message didn't get through.  Just writing to
say sorry for the spelling mistakes.  That last message should
have read........The Bachman Books, not bauchmann books.  Hope
all you die-hard fans don't hunt me down.






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From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Subject: Re: e: Is Texas Chainsaw Massacre worth renting
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:53:40 GMT

 
  You must remember that Texas Chainsaw Massacre was the *first* of
the chop-em-up movies--quite frightening then, and still scary as
hell.
 
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Anyone but Stephen King
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:01:46 GMT
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Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul24.025048.29107@news.nd.edu> wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
>Well, I think Stephen King is pretty much overrated-  he seems to truly have
>run out of anything interesting to say years ago.  Right now, I think he's
>responsible for killing more trees than MacDonald's.  Frankly, I wish his
>editor(s) would have the guts to stand up to him and say "Steve- we really
>don't need another 1500 page novel this year- could you trim it a bit to a
>reasonable length?"
>King alone for awhile and talk about other authors?

I agree that King is discussed a lot on here, but you don't have to read the
messages or respond to them if you choose not to. Why don't you bring up some
topics about other authors for people to start answering? I have run into the
same kind of "sick of this topic" thing with a few topics on here but more so
on other news groups. If you want to discuss something, bring it up by all
means, but I don't think people should be asked to stop discussing something
just because someone doesn't like it. I respect the fact that you express your
dislike of King because I feel you are entitled to your opinion, provided that
you have tried reading his work??  What do you want to discuss exactly? 
						Laurel
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From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Anyone but Stephen King
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:57:29 MDT
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In article <92209.202757JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>  Andrea wanted a good Koontz novel to read, so I suggest _Midnight_ for anyone
>  who wants a good Koontz novel to read.  It doesn't fit the formula that
>  Andrea described anyway.  I haven't read it in quite a long time (I read it
>  when ET first came out at the movies), and I'm only 19 now, so I don't
>  remember too much about it.  --John.

     It fits the "man and woman in dire straits meet, fall in love,
and triumph with no major scars" formula quite well.  I've read a
number of Koontz's books and enjoyed them all, but this formula is the
main gripe I have with them.  _Midnight_ also includes the young child
who suffers through and survives.  This child appears in _Lightning_,
_Hideaway_, _Phantoms_ and _Strangers_, among others.  The one thing I
don't remember about _Midnight_ (my favorite of the books) is whether
or not one of the main characters is some sort of artist.  (cf
Lightning, Hideaway, Strangers, The Bad Place, etc. ad nauseum.)
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From: bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness)
Subject: Re: Help me, King buffs!
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:46:38 CDT
Keywords: Stephen King, the Kingmeister, Kingatolla

In article <3431@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>Shift" both of which I read)? I have the book "I Shudder At Your Touch" but
>haven't had the chance to read it yet, so maybe there is a different King
>story in it ( I don't remember what the title of the story was from looking at

"The Revelations of 'Becka Paulson." I read it a couple nights ago,
hoping it would be something I hadn't already. Alas and alack, I
discovered I *had* read it already - it's basically a condensed,
Reader's Digest-type deal, using _Tommyknockers_ as its basis.
It uses the part where 'Becka hotwires the TV and electrocutes
hubby, throwing in a couple other tidbits from _Tommyknockers_
and other King novels. In any event, "Revelations" wasn't a
very original piece of work (sigh).

-----
Matt. 

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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Gerald's Game (was re: psychological)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 15:48:39 EDT

In article <3602@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>Darin, do you really think Bobbi in "Tommy Knockers" was dependent on Gard?
>Also, I didn't think Carrie was really dependent on anyone in "Carrie", but
>she was definitely not independent: her upbringing screwed her up royally. 
>			Laurel 


	Bobbi did seem, to me, to be emotionally dependent on Gard,
	at least to an extent.  For the most part, she is a very
	aggressive and independent character, but she does fret a
	lot about calling him very early in the novel, to get his
	advice on what to do with the ship (Gard would know how to
	handle this...) He was also the person who helped her break
	away from her family, and encouraged her first literary efforts.
	Of course, the ironic thing is that Gard is also a dependent
	personality -- dependent on a bottle.

	As for Carrie White, for most of the book she is completely
	subservient to her mother, and the book is about her attempts
	to break away. She does break, of course -- in a rather bloody
	fashion.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University

	"You're perfect, yes it's true
	 But without me, there's only you
	 Your menstruating heart
	 It ain't bleedin' enough for two"

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From: Liz%Eng%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Hellraiser III?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:58:23 GMT

Rumor has it this is due out July 31.  I have seen no previews.  Anybody know 
if it's still coming out?

-liz
lizb@banyan.com

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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: SK's Dark Tower series
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:48:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.172331.26885@udel.edu> lintz@buster.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz) writes:
>
>In the uncut version of _The Stand_, the events take place in the early
>90's. If S.K. would stop writing all but _Dark Tower_, you could put
>them all in one continuum. Everything set in the "normal" world takes
>place before _The Stand_; _Eyes of the Dragon_ and _Dark Tower_ take
>place after _The Stand_.
>
I saw it more as The Eyes of the Dragon being first, then the Stand,
then the DT series. The Eyes is about a world that is just beginning.
The Stand is about a world that is beginning to die, and DT is
about a world that has "moved on".
As for the Overlook being in The Stand, I had never thought about it,
but I don't think it is so. Not because "It is burned" but because
it is a bad place. The guy in the Stand (Sorry, I can't remember his
name) (wait, was it Stu? I don't remember...) needed a place to stay
so that he and Tom Cullen didn't freeze... or are you all talking about
a different hotel in the Stand? OK I have now succeeded in thouroughly
confusing myself... My point is that I don't think that The Overlook
would have let them shelter themselves there.

Misti
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From: M Maxwell
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Scariest Horror Movie
Date: 22 Jul 1992 14:31:24 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
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In article <mr5or*Db0@luser.UUCP> mikeg@luser.UUCP (Mike Gallenstein) writes:

>To my understanding, King makes a cameo appearence in every movie adaption of
>his books.  There is an exception, but I can't remember which movie it is. 
>Creepshow is the only one I know of where he starred in.
>
>--
(.sig deleted)

How about 'The Lawnmower Man'?  (No, i didn't see it, but i'm just guessing.)
-------------------
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From: mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dan Simmons (was Re: VC Andrews)
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:34:23 GMT
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Surrey, British Columbia, CANADA

In article <Bs2HK3.AH7@me.utoronto.ca> steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:
>Short Stories:  I believe there is a recent collection of short stories,
>  one of which is the novella which became Carrion Comfort.  I haven't read
>  this collection yet.
The title is something very close to _Prayers to Broken Stones_, if that
isn't it exactly.  Published by Dark Harvest. I've also seen a 
recent paperback mass market version on the shelves of several bookstores 
(often in the SF section).

Well worth reading.

Mark
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:01:25 GMT
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Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <92Jul23.024523.19111@acs.ucalgary.ca> kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:
>Although I will eventually read these books, any
>comments on the author?? 

I think it's Robert McCammon(?) Are these titles novels or short stories? I
know he has a few stories in edited anthologies. Let me know more?
			Laurel
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Laurel A. Povazan			       	"I am Count Dracula;
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						    -Count Dracula in
						     "Dracula"	  
					
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						 there in the light---
						 except fear."
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From: jpurlia@qualcomm.com (John Purlia)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Kings new alias?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:03:52 GMT
Followup-To: alt.horror
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.

In article <1992Jul26.031924.13176@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (K.M.Roberts) wrote:
> 
> 	When I said I would guess McCammon if anyone told me that King
> Positively had another alias, that was true. I have not seen nor read much
> about McCammon (I do realize he's been around quite awhile...) and I thought/
> think his style is very much like Kings... out of the writers I AM familiar
> with, I would say he was the closest to King. Thus, he would be the one I 
> would choose. Of course, that is assuming that King's pseudonym was popular!

Hmmmm... interesting thread.  Of course, having met Robert McCammon at a
book signing a couple of years ago, I can definitely attest to the fact
that he is indeed, real.  Then again, when I asked him about a VERY visible
character from Swan Song -- one of his most popular works -- he was the
very picture of bewilderment, as if he'd never read the book himself. 
Oooooooooo!!  ;)

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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Rock 'n' Horror
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 12:01:55 EDT

In article <1992Jul26.162544.10777@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:

I wrote:

>>Hey Kids! Here are some song lyrics that should be of interest
>>to the good folks in alt.horror
>>
>>"Among The Living"
>>Anthrax
>>from the Album _Among The Living_ (1987)
>
>	[lyrics deleted]
>
>>
>>     Inspired, obviously, by Stephen King's _The Stand_


Stewart writes:

>Ever heard "The Stand" by The Alarm?


	Is it about King's _The Stand_. If so, post the lyrics!

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:04:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <7184@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu> mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux) writes:
>In article <3998@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>>
>Hmm.  Well, while my tastes run to mostly fantasy, I DO like several horror 
>authors, including Stephen King, Dean Koontz, Anne Rice, Robert McCammon 
>The Vampire Lestat, The Wolf's Hour, Swan Song, Watchers, Darkfall, and 
>Midnight.....pretty good list, eh?

Yes, pretty good. Do you like horror anthologies? Have you read "Four Past
Midnight" (S. King)? The stories in it are basically adventure horror and it
seems that you would enjoy it. I just received a shipment of books yesterday
from the Science Fiction Book Club including "Horror Hall of Fame". I just
joined the SFBC, but have been with Mystery Guild for a long time now. Both
clubs seem to have at least a few different horror books available each month.
Have you read Rice's other vampire books ("Interview with the Vampire" and
"Queen of the Damned")? All good books! Later!
			Laurel

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                                                  there in the light---
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