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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Friends ... forever ...
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:04:30 GMT

Splash looks on at the fire and the mournful callahanians with eyes brimming.
He muses: "Strange - I'm crying for someone who I never met, not even in name
until the announcement of his death."

The sentiments and emotions surrounding this tragic event really sum up the
wonderful entity that is the Place.  The heartfelt sentiments which I've just
read have brought tears to my eyes.

To the Artful Dodger, wherever you may be now:  I trust all your troubles and
burdens are now eased.  This life is now behind you, and I thank you for your
contribution to mine, albeit after your death.  (Does this not show that Arty's
life goes on?)  The love goes on ...

<HUG> to your spirit.  Take care.  Love,
						Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (L. Saiki)
Subject: Re: two things
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:10:22 GMT

Kitten asks:

>and....does anyone know what is inside a lava lamp to make it do what
>it does?"

>kitten sits back and waits for answers.

Spacey wonders about the same too, since she has one sitting in her 
room [a yellow and red one]..."What I had always thought was that it
was thermodynamic principles at work.  The heated portion expands and
thus becomes lighter per area, which causes the fluid to rise.  When
it has risen, it cools and thus contracts which makes it denser per
area.  I had supposed that the two liquids have different densities
which lets them to remain in a separate state.  Instead of mixing
about."  

"Sitting and staring at my lava lamp, I have noticed that it does 
not remain in a big glob all the time.   It disperses into tiny pellets
sometimes, and then joins into one big glob when they bump into 
each other..."  

"The box didn't say anything."





-- 
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
     The end!					 L. Saiki	
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
From: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (The Didi-Sprite)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Suicide (Was: Friends ... forever ...)
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:11:30 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Originator: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

In article <1992Sep28.151404.18466@openage.openage.com> gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
>I will miss Arty myself, but I can't help thinking that suicide is the
>cowards way out.  I have talked many of my friends out of suicide, and they
>are mostly better for it.  I don't think suicide makes your problems go
>away, I think you will be forced to deal with them in the next life, or the
>one after that.  And then there are all the people you left behind...

Sigh.

This is such a difficult topic ... made more difficult now.
As for Arty ... knowing, and loving him as I do ... and having 
read of how he conducted himself when in the Navy, I cannot accept 
that anything he may have done was prompted by cowardice.  Not even 
his choice of death over life.  

I cannot say for certain what motivated him to do this ...
but I regreat mightily that he felt he had no other option.

>I've been thinking of my own mortality lately.  Thing's aren't fantastic 
>here at Open Age Inc., and I had this day dream of having the Gov't fake my
>dead so Martha and I could go fight alien vampires.  Nice imagination huh?
>In this little day dream (Which was before I read Smokes' post) my friend
>Ben posted a message about my tragic demise on Callahans.

I am convincedd that there is hardly a person in the world who hasn't 
contemplated being the instrument of their own death at some point or other.   

>To see this about Arty was just too much for me.  And I started thinking about
>how I would be remembered.  I don't like the idea of glorifying Arty's death.
>There were a thousand places he could have turned for help.  That includes us.
>I still think he took the easy way out.  Life is much harder than death. 
>
As for me ... I am not in any way attempting to glorify Arty's death.
I simply want to say 'goodbye' to a very dear friend ... and ... move
on.  It is important that we express our feelings, our grief.  It is the
best way to deal with it and put it behind us.  And, if we can ... we
must glean something positive from this.  Learn from it.  

Now that I have had my say, Goldie ...
Could I please have a *hug*?

----<--<@

The Didi-Sprite
Montreal * Canada

braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Christmas is busting out all over!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:19:10 GMT



>	Grant has his radio on the table playing "A Carpenter's Chistmas."
>His various holiday rubber stamps are strewn across the table with his
>glue pen, heat gun, various embossing powders, and Kromekote put where 
>there is any leftover space.

[   ]
>and horribly ANNOYING!

>	"I shouldn't get so overworked about it, but I like Christmas.
>Maybe not the crass commercialism or the large gaudy billboards
>proclaiming 'Jesus is the reason for the season' but I like the music,
>the sights, the smells, the early wintertime.  Yes, in San Diego we
>do have an approximation for winter!

>	"I don't know, it just seems too sudden to think about Christmas
>now.  Well, since I'm hand-making my cards this year, I'd better get
>busy.  If anyone wants to express a little creativity - here a Kromekote
>greeting card and stamp pads.  I have all the stamps you'll need, but
>you'll have to provide the ideas!"

kitten starts jumping up and down...."grant, i totally agree....i am
not ready to think about christmas....i still haven't figured out how
i am going to afford windycon (spider and jeanne are special guests
this year)  .... i am not sure....but i think some places are starting
to keep christmas stuff all year 'round!!!!!!  bleah!"

even though she sounds grinch-y, kitten is looking around for some of
grant's special christmas carmel fondue....


--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Reminicing about alt.callahans past
From: DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY)
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:25:24 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wesleyan University
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In <jhitch.717808952@crash> jhitch@crash.cts.com writes:

> 	"You want great moments in callahan's past?" Grant scratches his
> head.  "Oh, yeah.  Most of you might remember this, but when I finally got
> access to the place after a four month hiatus after graduation, I sort of
> got back into with with a bang!  Or in this case - a SPLAT!"
> 
> 	Grant shakes off the memory of wiping key lime out of his eyes.
> "You see, during the tickle/pillow fights, someone complained, so I whipped
> out my everpresent backpack, and threw a pie at Bear.  Bear wasn't the one
> complaining, however.  Well, things escalated a bit into a complete MESS!
> I'm trying to remember exactly how things went, but some of the people 
> involved with the, um, incident might be able to fill in the gaps.  I
> do remember that near the end, however, I looked like a polar bear as every
> inch of my person was covered in something messy.  I had a loooooooong shower
> after that!" Grant looks around and wonders if anybody remembers this.

Jack Crow carefuly wraps his guitar case in plastic bags, and then walks up to
Grant, smiling with his innocent cherubic face.  "Yeah Grant, I remember the
incident as you put it.  Fill in the gaps?  ok.  I think it went a little like
this."

So saying he walks away.  Grant, who had been ready to dodge looks confused for
a moment.  This confusion ends when a marshmellow cream pie falls out of the
ceiling and lands on his head.

"by the way, did you know that Jack is the son of Robin.  He is the Trickster,
and I'm one of his crows."


One of Jack's Crows.

Up and Down, Up and Down
I will lead them up and down.
I am feared in field and town.
Goblin lead them up and down.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: On the razor's edge, or:  Hyperglycemia or Hypoglycemia, that is the question
Date: 30 Sep 1992 08:11:28 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Sep30.020326.10953@ra.msstate.edu>, jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:
>    "No problem. Do you need FTL, laser cannon, time travel, dimension
>  travel across tau,teh, ? Would generation ships be necessary ? how about
>  Commodore Grimes ? Louis Wu ? Teela brown maybe ? how about a Ring World
>Engineer ? A talking Kzinti female even ? < a big Kzinti grin >" Linda.

All I need is transportation to Jellystone, and a couple of sources of straight
lines.  And, HEY, I've just had a conversation with a Kzinret!  This might even
spark a message about horniness and diabetes (the two are NOT compatible; 
don't respond on this topic unless you're willing to  do something to help an
impotent Kzintosh [but my tongue still works just fine!]).  And, should you
meet me in person, don't ask unless your're willing to do something about it
(responses from Deadrunner are hereby explicitly solicited).

>  "Or maybe bar-bee-que with barbs or straight tines ? Maybe a little 7-card
>stud poker out back. Or liquor up front ? " Robbie. 

Well, I don;t know about bar-bee-que.  We just have to get to Jellystone and
watch what the Boss (Guess what:  His name is JIM) is doing.  I'm not sure we
can trust him.  Let's take a look tomorrow, OK?

	Liftoff @ 05:00 PDT	(Linda)
	Bar-bee-que		(Robbie)
	Why me?			(StM)
Tune in tomorrow to find out what's happening in Jellystone National Park!
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: More for Liralen...
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:19:50 GMT

Danger Mouse watches himself carefully as he plays with Fezzik and
wishes Liralen a happy birthday. But... he forgets to give Liralen her
present!

(Actually, the file I sent to Didi got corrupted somewhere, so she only
received the first half of it. Here is the rest...)

***

At [Liralen's] innocent expression, DM smiles and grabs her in a huge bear-hug.
"Happy Birthday!" He reaches into a pocket and extracts what looks like
one end of a piece of string... only it's not string... He places the
loose end in her hand.

"Australian Merino wool, for you to use in your knitted creations. The
other end is back in a sheep-shearing and wool-carding and spinning shed
somewhere in the outback of New South Wales. As you can see, it's been
washed but not bleached or dyed. Makes for some wonderful natural tones
in finished garments. And, of course, it will never run out.

"Now, I'm afraid I must leave you to the mercies of the others..." DM
gives Liralen a parting hug and dashes off - in search of that enormous
plate of 'potstickers'.

- Danger Mouse.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: ANOTHER MIA LIST
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:00:39 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Sep24.165150.14955@morrow.stanford.edu>, GE.LJB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Louis J Bookbinder) writes:
>The following have not posted in OH, So Long. Are they gone forever?
>
>MEMBERS IN ABSENTIA (M.I.A.)
>----------------------------
>Lucky Bitch

I thought she'd posted fairly recently.

>Polycarbon Hobbit
>Polymath

I'm pretty sure that at least one of these has posted recently

>Raven

Didn't we have two of these?  If we only ever had one, he's back.
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: click!
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:30:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

[   ]
>>> lee:  IT WAS A SHE....YOU SEXIST SLIME!
>>> (unfortunately the discussion of women in the military degenerated
>>> into a discussion of a special forces group that only gets sent out
>>> once a month...the PMS squad)
>>> little things like this give me hope for the younger generation...
>> 
>>What gives you hope, that someone would refer to another on as sexist 
>>slime merely for making a fairly innocent inference?  Indeed, perhaps these
>>inferences need to go away, but the sexist slime remark is
>>VERY indicative of the combative and militant self-righteousness
>>that is common with almost all issues right now be they liberal
>>or conservative.  

>Please don't take this as a flame (I only play with fire in RL), but 
>personally, I think the 'SEXIST SLIME!' remark was only some teasing by two 
>teenagers.  That's how most people I know between the ages of 13-25 
>communicate: jokes & insults (and yes, I hang out with rather unbalanced 
>people).  The fact that both of them then start joking about PMS would seem 
>to indicate that they were just playing around.

kitten grins...."fact is....one of the "teenagers" is 40 (t.c.)

but you are right....they were teasing..."

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
ReplyTo: mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: ANOTHER MIA LIST
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.18 $
Organization: Chez MonTemplar, Redunser
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:42:42 +0000

Just a few notes to add to the MIA list.

1) Unless any other UK Callahaner know differently, I'd suggest you make that
a permanent ABEND for Logos - hopefully he's got himself a job now, but don't
hold your breath waiting for him to reappear on the Net.

2) The mail2news gateway at news.demon.co.uk is off-limits to all except
those sites with whom Demon has direct links, ie. CIX, IBMPCUG. I'd prefer
not to have Cliff @ Demon on my back for encouraging abuse of this service.
--
Alan Ralph, AKA Kimberley MonTemplar (when in alt.callahans)
aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk  OR  mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk
Cominatcha' c/o Demon Internet Services - Internet for a tenner a month!
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: Friends ... forever ...
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:49:56 GMT


Liralen follows the Smoke out onto the evidently empty plain.  Her eyes
are curious and dry.  She helps with the building of the bonfire, gnarled,
dried wood from the desert, so unlike the sap rich woods of the NorthWet.
She listens to the stories and bows her head as the jacket is consumed by
the flames.  Then she grins a little and looks straight up into the desert
sky.  Into the face of emptiness and darkness, and the clear desert sky
shows stars like she's never seen anywhere else.

They glitter like the tears on so many other of the patron's faces. 

She hears a small voice.  Susan's... telling of pain and fear and freedom.

She sighs.  

She shivers, once, and a man stands in her place.  Pretty much the same
build, 5'10", Asian, about 150 pounds of lean muscle and dark eyes, black
hair flecked with a touch of silver.

He walks up to Susan in her wheelchair, and kneels before it.  David
Kumagai kisses her once, gently on the lips, and says, "It's your choice,
love.  Just as it was the choice of the Artful Dodger.  Sometimes things
get to be too much, and considering that he just lost everything he had,
run out of all that he possessed and loved.  Perhaps I'd do the same
thing, given his place.  To be that tired and that drained and empty... I
could see doing that, hurtful as it might for most of the patrons here to
know that there wasn't really anything they could do about my dying."

He looks Susan in the face.  "If it were something that you desired above
all else, including me and the others that love you, then I would..." he
can't keep his demeanor, and his voice cracks. "I would..." he changes to a
whisper, "I might be able to let you go.  Even gladly, if you needed your
freedom.  I cannot hold onto someone I love by force.   Only with their own
desire..."

"Please stay." he says softly, "At least until you can come and see my
woods, play with Fezzik for real.  At least until you can stay in my cabin
in the forest and meet my John.  At least until I can *touch* you."  He
looks up into her eyes, and the bows his head.  "I'm sorry.  I don't want
to give you any more pain with my pleading.  But..." David manages a grin,
"well, I'm selfish.  I admit it... I'm selfish for you."

---
David Kumagai
li@inigo.Data-IO.com
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
Subject: Re: two things
Reply-To: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:37:42 GMT

What's in a lava lamp?  Lava, of course.  :)

  No, really, it probably is some sort of "wax" formulation.  There are waxes
which melt/solidify at about room/body temperatures, and dramatically change
densities when they change state.  Apparently, sperm whales and some sorts of
plankton use waxy compounds with this characterisic in their buoyancy-control
mechanisms.
     As to StM's wonder about how hard it would be for an industial chemist to
analyze:  As I recall, parafin is a pretty-long chain hydrocarbon, and "wax" a
generic name for similar compounds.  There could be a lot of them; I'm not sure
how precisely "similar" something has to be to get called "wax".  Especially if
the term includes compounds that are not vanilla hydrocarbons....  I doubt that
it's impossible, but I don't find it hard to believe that it could rate
"difficult".
                                      Mentor the Sage

-----------Message forwarded from IPSA Mailbox-------------
From: /G=Rhodri/S=James/O=SJ-Research/ADMD=INTERSPAN/C=GB/@MHS-RELAY.AC.UK
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Speaker for the Dead
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:48:25 GMT


  <<Damn...

  <<The last conversation I had with Artie was months ago, about growing up
in the coutryside, miles away from anything.  Seeing who could reminisce the
most.

  <<Damn...>>

>>CRASH<<

---
Windsinger  -  Rhodri James    *  "If hot food is what you're cravin'
                               *   No throat lining's worth the savin'
Rhodri.James%gb.INTERSPAN.sj   *   If your stomach's got you ravin'
            @mhs-relay.ac.uk   *   Come into the Curry Queen!"
   or                          *
rmj10@phx.cam.ac.uk            *               -- Me
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  1 Oct 92 04:04:35 GMT

li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:


>"O.K." Liralen says in responce to Splash!'s question.  "'Sophmore: (Gk
>sophos - wise + moros - foolish): a student in his second year at college
>or secondary school.' I always liked that definition, someone that's wise
>enough after the first year to actually start getting somewhere, but still
>a fool.

Shouldn't that be: foolish enough to think they're wise?  (I've taught a few at
this level.)

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Can anyone hear me?
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  5 Oct 92 03:42:44 GMT

s903040@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Christopher Francis Anderson) writes:

><<Thunderchild looks around in bewilderment>>

>Can anyone hear me?

>None of my posts seem to be getting through to the group!

><<Panic ensues on his part>>

>If anyone can hear me, let me know, please - I feel a bit strange talking
>and not knowing if I'm getting through.

>Thanx peoples.

Yup - gotcha in West Oz!

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
From: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: colorfully descriptive phrases
Date: 3 Oct 1992 04:48:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


>=-  Three fries short of a Happy Meal.
>=-  As welcome as a hyperactive puppy at a housecat convention.
>=-  Flat out like a lizard drinking.
>	Nervous as a cat in a roomful of rocking-chairs.

[Robin Williams, about Dan Quayle]  One taco short of a combination plate.

And, of course, there's the SFB favorite: Six drones short of a scatter-pack.

-- C-Hawk --

(It's funnier if you know that a standard scatter-pack can hold up to six
drones....)
-- 
Palmer T. Davis      ___
<ptd2@po.cwru.edu>   \X/   cthread.  cthread_fork().  Fork, thread, fork!
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