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From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: splatteree appointment
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:19:15 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>I think we need definitely need
>to designate you as a splatteree at the next splatterfest!! ;-)

now, there's only supposed to be one splateree, and now we've got
three if I'm counting right (brian la la la, jeff, who was the third??).

Splatteree(tm) is now an honor bestowed only by the Splatterfest(tm)
organizers. the splatterees of fests past will live in infamy because
we're gonna redefine what they are. we're not havin' any more actual
splats. instead of discovering who the splatteree is when they splat,
they'll be picked up front and receive a "special" prize at all future
Splatterfests. that should keep everyone shiny side up.

the organizers can be influenced via email if you have any good ideas...
oohhh! Keeper of the SplatterFest!

-- 
Joe Senner  KotSF                                          joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:00:48 GMT

In article <748@zx11.UUCP> steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade) writes:
=>joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
=>>>The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.
=>>
=>>if you've got something against the Splatterfest, that's fine, but if
=>>you're gonna steal our ideas we're gonna have to send Mark "Thumper"
=>>Parsons to have a little chat with you. I guess I'll have to start
=>>putting copyright notices on Splatterfest plans...
=>>
=>
=>Actually LaborDay weekend is the time for the Anual Houston BMW
=>Club rally in Giddings.  
=>
=>Joe, don't worry, with such short notice they never could pulloff
=>a splatterfest clone.  AT best they could hope for is a taudry
=>group of houstonites who have no clue where the real hill country
=>roads are and what the best ones are.
=>
=>Steve Bade
=>Co-producer of Splatterfest (TM) 

Sure Steve....  We will _never_ find the twisties out off of 2222.  Or 71. I  
did live in Austin for 4 years..  It is that now I enjoy the excitement of the  
ocassional catagory 4 hurricane passing through every so often....  Say, why  
don't we "taudry group of houstonites" extend the invitation for our weekend  
ride to these "sensitive austinites"??????  (Not??)  :-)

(Note the smiley, steve)

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From: gad@pencom.com (George Durden)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BEWARE: bike thieves in Austin
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:21:16 GMT
Reply-To: gad@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

Brad Might writes
> 
> 
> I received an email this morning from a friend at my apartment complex (up
> 183 and mcneil rd). 
> 
> It seems that when he came out to his car this morning, a guy from the
> building across the driveway was standing in an empty parking spot looking
> like the world had ended. He said his bike was stolen last night.
> 
> (A purple (home job) with blue tank 600 katana with a fairly loud pipe,
> keep your eyes open - it looks well used).
> 

Bummer, I just talked to this guy last night at LensCrafters at the
Arboretum. His name is Richard or something like that. This bike is
very Unique in its paint scheme (looks pretty good from about 50 feet)
has a Fox Shock and a Kerker exhaust (kinda loud) It's gotta be the
same bike. I'm definitely gonna keep my eyes peeled and if I see that
bike, I guess I'll have to see where it goes... See if you can get the
Phone # for the bike's owner so if any of us spot the bike we can 
notify him (and the police of course).

Keep your eyes peeled,
George
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		       Unix Mercenary
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From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: splatteree appointment
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:08:26 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <770@zx11.UUCP>, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
|> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
|> >I think we need definitely need
|> >to designate you as a splatteree at the next splatterfest!! ;-)
|> 
|> now, there's only supposed to be one splateree, and now we've got
|> three if I'm counting right (brian la la la, jeff, who was the third??).

Oh, I don't know about this!?!?!?!  These publisher house give aways
used to only have one $1 million winner . . now they have several
winners each year capable of winning a minimum of $1 million . . . 
don't you think Splatterfest has grown in prestige, grown so much
that we can start awarding multiple awards?? ;-)

Mark "I'm a Splatteree . . . and damn proud of it!!" Parsons
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:17:13 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
]But, Joe, Mobil 1 oil is fine in your beemer, but in the ZX-11, and 
]all these other bikes which share the same engine/clutch/transmission
]oil, won't it break down & screw things up after a while?  I've been

you'll notice I said it worked fine in my ZX-11. I used it for well
over 8000 miles of lots of full throttle bursts, high RPM running, etc.

]told by several people that motorcycles need specially formulated oil
]to withstand the shearing forces & clutch pad particles, etc. that 
]aren't present in beemers & cages.  What's the scoop?

you've been listening to the idiots at woods honda again (or those that were
stupid enough to believe them), they want you to buy their expensive oil. 

probably the best thing you can do for your bike is to use mobil 1 and 
change it every 3000 miles. the real trick is to use a synthetic as opposed 
to a regular oil which won't be able to handle those extra stresses. mobil 1 
is a straight synthetic (like some others). if it says it's a "specially 
formulated" oil, that just means that they've made it a regular/synthetic 
blend. certainly better than a regular oil, but well short of a full synthetic.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: jbm@hal.com (Brad Might)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: two wheels good
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:41:06
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: infinity.hal.com



Well, after a year and a half of agony without two wheels, I'm now
monotrack mobile again. Saturday I brought home a '93 600 F2 and am now
going through 600 miles of break in torture (who ever runs a sportbike at
under 5000 rpm ?)

Anyhow, now I'm looking for the great motorcycling roads of texas. Should't
there be an FAQ on this one ?

Suggestions around the Austin area are preferred right now. 

thanks,


brad
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jbm@hal.com (Brad Might)                                
HAL Computer Systems - (512)794-2855                    
8920 Business Park Drive Suite 300 Austin, Tx 78759
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thirsty carbs at 80+mph???
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:33:17 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA




What's a PC 800?


-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to do in Dallas?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:49:31 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <jcn.715544511@keckiris>, jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
|> 
|> Leave.

Leave what?  Dallas? Houston? or Texas??? ;-)

Mark "I want to move back east!!!" Parsons
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking to buy a Honda Magna
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:26:46 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


Well, guys and gals . . . . my Magna is an 87, and *only*
700cc . . . seems this gal needs an 88, with 750cc.  Guess
I'm outta luck??

But just in case, ma'am . . . how much is your friend willing
to part with if he does. . . um . . break it?? ;-)
(Hmmmmm, how much is the new K100RS?  Sorry Joe, I mean
a new K100RS16VABSWSBARPJ?? ;-)

Discount Moto, in Pasadena, has a red 88, in mint condition,
but you would have to pay that guy a lot for it . . he 
plans on keeping it as a souveniour(sp?).

Mark "Can a K100RSetc climb hills, too!?!?!?!" Parsons
From: jbm@hal.com (Brad Might)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:46:42
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
	<1992Aug26.154507.8360@spdc.ti.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: infinity.hal.com
In-reply-to: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com's message of 26 Aug 92 15:45:07 GMT

>
>(Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>   (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
>   >(Mark Parsons) writes:
>   >
>   >>Forks? Forks?  Oh, is thta the little arm that holds the needle?
>   >>Where I grew up, Singer made house calls . . have you tried calling
>   >>them? *snicker*  ;-)
>   >
>   >Okay, Mark.  Actually, this isn't funny right now.  I have been waiting 
>   >now for 18 days to get those damn forks back.  I am supposed to hear from 
>   >the place today to see if the fucking distributor has even shipped the 
>   >damn fork tube!  If they haven't, I going to pick the forks up, put them 
>   >back on and then take them back when the damn part finally arrives.  
>   >Three fucking weeks to order a part!  What's the deal?
>   >
>
>   I've been under the impression this is typical of Japanese bikes due to 
>   the variety of short lived models, hence the impossibility of maintaining 
>   an inventory for all of them. I just got my first Jap bike in years (an SR500)
>   but I also have another I can use for parts if necessary. (I'd rather ride it)
>     So, are my notions correct? Or is this situation unusual?
>
>   Jeff Achenbach
>   achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
>

I once had to wait 8 weeks for a part. They had to send to Japan for it.

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jbm@hal.com (Brad Might)                                
HAL Computer Systems - (512)794-2855                    
8920 Business Park Drive Suite 300 Austin, Tx 78759
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thirsty carbs at 80+mph???
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:25:17 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <jcn.715012149@helix> jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
>ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>>[grumpfest]
>
>Damn, I've got to be more clear in my postings.  I should have made it 
>clear that for the first year, I was a bike person.  My soon to be 
>wife was in Austin, so yes I did go to the grocery store on my bike 
>(was able to fit 3 full bags of grocery on the pillion once!), 

I've often been seen wandering around the grocery store, helmet
in one hand, basket in the other, muttering "well, I can get the
six-pack and all the veggies in my tank bag, but if I bungie the
toilet paper to the back I'm not gonna have any place to put
the cat food & the loaf of bread...don't we already have some 
toilet paper?..."

It's still a real pain if you wanna buy stuff like stereo equipment
(I plop down $400 for something, it does *not* get bungied to the back
of Wilbur) or if you need to make trips to the laundromat.

>I rode 
>my bike in the rain, including several trips in the rain to Austin, and 
>I STILL ride my bike, even in the rain (although I have to get a 
>better rain suit).

Yesterday was the first day I had to ride in *real* rain...I just
moved here from San Francisco (yeah, I know, go the fuck back home,
ya whiner...well I lived here before I learned to ride) so I got
to try out my new el-cheapo rainsuit.

>You're right, you were grumpy ;-)

Hey, my sneakers were wet, OK?  The movers still have my boots.

I'm much better today, thanks.



-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking to buy a Honda Magna
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:13:44 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

](Hmmmmm, how much is the new K100RS?  Sorry Joe, I mean
]a new K100RS16VABSWSBARPJ?? ;-)

well, the K100RS is comfortably into 5 digits. I'm sure adding
the WSBARPJ will push it into 6...

]Discount Moto, in Pasadena, has a red 88, in mint condition,
]but you would have to pay that guy a lot for it . . he 
]plans on keeping it as a souveniour(sp?).

you need to keep yours, as pretty as that bike is you'd be insane
to sell it...

]Mark "Can a K100RSetc climb hills, too!?!?!?!" Parsons

let's not find out shall we??? :-)

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: my dryspell is over!
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:34:47 GMT
Organization: Rice University

Finally!  Got my forks back yesterday afternoon, spent last night 
putting them back on, and finally rode again after almost a month.
Damn I missed it.  Now all I have to do is change the oil, clean the 
chain, do a tune-up, clean the bike, fix the tach cable, etc etc etc 
but it's worth it!

Sorry, just had to tell someone.


--
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*  DoD#0402         AMA#568571  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

>list all the wonderful twisty roads out west of Austin??? Like when we head  
>towards llano???  (Anyone been waterskiing on Horseshoe Bay out near llano??)   
>Or we could keep going west... Er, well you could.. my range is only about 120  
>till reserve :-)
Whats the matter not enough smilies :-)... Don't mention them, come and
ride them with us.  Houston has got to be boring after 4 years in Austin.
I've been here abuot 1.75 years and spend every possible minute in the
hill country.

>weekend for a party and we sneezed through Giddings....  Didn't see much  
>happening there...  Come to think of it, we didn't seem much there, period...
>
I have no choice in the Rally site.  The BMW club picked it, I'm just 
going to hang out with a gaggle of BMW riders.  You have to be into
the Rally thing to really have a good time.  I have to admit that the
roads arround giddings don't look more promising than those arround
Houston.

>=>Hey I had one of them, mine was an 84, tiredt to keep it for the
>=>wife, but she did not want to ride.  
>
That should have read she did not want to ride on her own.  She prefers
pillion.  About 90% of my riding is 2 up, over 10K in the last 9 months.


>=>and the support organization makes it work correctly.
>=>
>
>Damn right.. I would never work for that self-rightous, bloated, screwed up  
>PC-god....
Damn, I didn't know we made the Pacific Coast, I could get an employee
discount.  :-)....


STeve
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I'm horny!!
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:22:18 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Aug25.160433.24442@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
|> 
|> Hey Mark.... Was that you riding off of 249 and Montgomery on Sunday evening,  
|> say around 5:15 pm???
|>

Could've been . . . I was riding all over the place!! 
 
|> I was in my cage and I was too embarrased to stop :-)
|>

Shame! Shame! Shame!!!!!

Mark
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:52:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <2370@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>......mobil 1 worked like a champ in my ZX-11. I plan on switching 
>to it when I break 10K miles on the beemer (which should be in about 
>5 months).
>


But, Joe, Mobil 1 oil is fine in your beemer, but in the ZX-11, and 
all these other bikes which share the same engine/clutch/transmission
oil, won't it break down & screw things up after a while?  I've been
told by several people that motorcycles need specially formulated oil
to withstand the shearing forces & clutch pad particles, etc. that 
aren't present in beemers & cages.  What's the scoop?


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|A little sixty-nine would be just fine,                             -   O    |
|So let's cut all this talk, just climb on my Hawk!                    |      |
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From: swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ann and her Harley
Keywords: airbrush
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:24:21 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu

In article <Btur26.LIM@rice.edu> garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett) writes:
>
>The picture of Ann Richards on the cover of Tx. Monthly is indeed faked. 
>They cropped a photo of her face onto the body of the model you see 
>astride the Hog.

However, I think it is her bike, even if it's not her.  But the cover
credits list someone else as "model".

>The pictures in the local papers that Kent referred to are something 
>different. Someone gave Ann a custom-painted Sportster, and she donated 
>it to the Highway Department instead of keeping it, but not before she 
>posed on it for a photo-op. 

Someone gave it to her??  I would have thought the story on this was
common knowledge in this group.  Here it is as I understand it:

A reporter asked Ann what she wanted for her 60th birthday (which is a
year or two away, I think).  She casually mentioned she'd like "a ride
on a Harley" or something like that.  Harley-Davidson's PR department
picked up on the report, and came up with the idea of giving her a
custom-painted pearl-gray Sportster (matches her hair) as a birthday
present.  She accepted it on behalf of DPS, since it would be illegal
for her as a public official to keep it personally.

>Too bad she didn't keep it. I had a rather pleasant vision of Ann 
>roaring into the Legislature while they were in session, screeching to 
>a stop, and saying, ``All right, enough of this $#!+...'':-)

She doesn't have a motorcycle license, but a prominent Republican in
the Lege (I forget which one) who does has offered in the interest of
bi-partisanship to give her a ride on it.  The MFS class I took was
taught by the DPS coordinator of MFS classes, and he said she is
planning to take the class one of these days.  It will be a very
private session, "just her, her son and a whole bunch of bodyguards".
(Will she need custom helmet to fit her hair?)

BTW, Harley seems to have a pretty sharp PR department (and a very
good clipping service).  Jay Leno says that after he took a spill on
his hog, Harley sent him a get-well card that said "Crunch all you
want. We'll make more".
From: garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Ann and her Harley
Keywords: airbrush
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:32:29 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Rice University


The picture of Ann Richards on the cover of Tx. Monthly is indeed faked. 
They cropped a photo of her face onto the body of the model you see 
astride the Hog.

The pictures in the local papers that Kent referred to are something 
different. Someone gave Ann a custom-painted Sportster, and she donated 
it to the Highway Department instead of keeping it, but not before she 
posed on it for a photo-op. 

Too bad she didn't keep it. I had a rather pleasant vision of Ann 
roaring into the Legislature while they were in session, screeching to 
a stop, and saying, ``All right, enough of this $#!+...'':-)
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Labor day ride update
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:33:25 GMT
Organization: Rice University

Well, the so called ride on Labor Day may not happen after all.  I 
still haven't gotten my bike back together (crossing my fingers I'll 
get the stuff back today--NOT!) and I may have other plans.  Oh well, 
I'll just ride up and down Westheimer endlessly like the other 
bikers here in Houston--oh boy, what fun.
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:00:44 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <1992Aug27.044738.24477@menudo.uh.edu> cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes) writes:
>In article <13259@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>
>>Some thing applies to the muscle cars of the '60's. That same (very crazy)
>>brother of mine used to drive his '69 SuperBee from Austin to Okla. City in
>>under 3.5 hours. That's 400 miles guys. work it out. I rode with him once
>
>Kent,
>
>  Did your brother make it *OUT* of the '60's?? :-)  Sounds like you
>needed a blindfold, last cigarette, and a change of underwaer with him
>begind the wheel...
>
>Greg Hayes

Yep, we're both still alive. Though I do remember him having about 33
speeding tickets on his record from a variety of states at one time. But he
was an 'accurate' driver. Only had one wreck on his old Vespa (at 60 mph)
back in about 64, and one in his '64 Dart (could almost pull wheelies with
it) a couple of years later.

He's starting to settle down a bit. He's 42 now and just recently took a desk
job. His last occupation was as a tower-climber for the State of Texas. You
know those crazy guys that get dropped out of helicopters from a ladder to
the top of mountains in Big Bend which are too steep to have any roads built
to them and then commence to climb a 2000 ft tower trailing a 4000 ft
transmission cable and antenna in order to stand on this 2 sq ft. platform
and wrestle both onto the top with 20 knots winds blowing all around. You
know, one of those guys who can waltz up to the edge of a skyscraper and
stand with his toes sticking off the edge, like he's on a sidewalk...

Yes, both of us were fairly active boys in our youth and motorcycles were
heavily involved most of the time. Sometimes wonder how our mom survived. I
know I'd have a heart attack if my son did a fraction of the things that we
did. (And no, I'm not telling him either)

Kent