HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Where did 'ethernet' come from anyway  was: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'ethernet'
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:41:09 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <Bx88oq.GsL@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
>
>Ok, we've established the correct way to say ethernet: memumbleernet.
>
>My question is:  Where did the name come from in the first place?
>
    Allegedly from the "luminiferous aether" said to pervade the
    universe prior to Michelson-Morley et. al.  

>If this is in the FAQ then I grant one and only one of you permission to 
>come kick me in the teeth until my toes bleed.
>
    I'd be extremely surprised if TNHD didn't have an entry for
    same...so if it does, we can let Eric nominate a kicker...and if
    it DOESN'T, then you get to kick Eric...  >:-)

    [One of these days, I really ought to buy the thing...maybe when
     Eric needs a new PC...]
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: elf@ee.ryerson.ca (luis fernandes)
Subject: Re: CM5 pic - terribly sorry gentlemen, it's a dud
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:43:20 GMT

scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure) writes:
>pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) writes:
>
>>I've just had a reply from Thinking Machines - unfortunately it looks like I
>>can't distribute it:
>
>>>The CM5 poster was a limited edition, and as such is not available for
>>>copying or further publication by anyone, in any form.  Accordingly,
>>>Thinking Machines would not be willing to grant the requested permission.
>>[...]
>Geez... Even Cray Research isn't that snobby about their posters.
>Don't they even have promo shots that could be scanned?

Look, all you hafta do is get someone with a laptop to sneak into
an installation that's got a CM5 & run a hand-scanner up-and-down
the side of it.

It'll work, trust me.


;-)


--
luis fernandes  <elf@ee.ryerson.ca>
From: steward@cup.portal.com (John Joseph Deltuvia)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: 8L - actual suggestion
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 17:44:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <BETSYS.92Nov7194415@ra.cs.umb.edu>
  <1992Nov9.005759.2945@news.columbia.edu> <1992Nov9.032253.5971@bbxrbk>


You might try the Smithsonian.  Their National Museum of American History
has a fair-size collection of computers and accessory equipment in their
modern technology display.  (I think it's the National Museum of Natural
History that has the dinosaur bones...)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:57:43 -0500 
From: Samuel Roy Helwig <sh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
	<1992Nov10.231926.28157@u.washington.edu>
Distribution: na


    ATM == Automatic Teller Machine

                --Sam
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jsr@dexter.mi.org (Jay S. Rouman)
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Organization: Private System, Mt. Pleasant, MI, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:58:11 GMT

In article <u734120.720953366@bruny> u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp) writes:
>shades of the dreaded pip command of CP/M and DEC fame - this also was a
>copy command which was pip <destination> <source>
>
>Things like this make using more than one operating system at a time fun!!

I agree that the PIP syntax seems backwards, but in all fairness, you
left out the equals sign.  It's "PIP destination = source".  It really
isn't much stranger than "x = 1".
-- 
Jay Rouman  (jsr@dexter.mi.org  jsr@ais.org)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: geertr@sci.kun.nl (Geert Rolf)
Subject: Re: value of a pdp-11,va
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:23:24 GMT

In <n0df4t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:

>   I recently sold my PDP-11/03 with 512K and two RL-02 30 meg 
>disk drives for $250.00 and my VT-200 for $25 (which I wish I 
>hadn't). I'd say it depends on the -11. Is it a 70 with the cool 
>purple front panel? Or a 45 that makes for a suitable anchor?

Oeps: 11/03 can only address 56 Kb of main memory & RL02 drives
are 10Mb each...

Whose Sales Force are you in, Larry?????

					:-)
From: Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: domain questions
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:40:28 GMT
Reply-To: Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
> A third surprise is "gb" for the United Kingdom.  As you know, Great
> Britain denotes the largest island in the British Isles, and is commonly
> used to refer to the combination of the three divisions of the UK that
> are each mostly on that island -- in other words to the UK minus Northern
> Ireland.  The choice of "gb" therefore looks like a political statement,
> but it is a curious one, for even if Northern Ireland did at some time
> cease to be part of the UK, the term UK would presumably continue to
> be correct.  As you also know, the email domain for the UK is in fact
> "uk" and not "gb": a choice that I think is justified by practicality.

This is one of those topics that just runs and runs. :-)

I live in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Nothern Ireland, whose
official OSI country codes are GB and GBR.  Citizens who live in the
parts of the UK that aren't England (I'm English by birth though with
Scottish and Welsh ancestry and I've lived most of my adult life in
Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland, with a 4-year sojourn in Cardiff,
the capital of Wales - both those cities have high proportions of
English residents) always worry about the bias of those who do live in
England, particularly in London and the South East.  These people do
have a tendency to refer to the whole country as 'England' and it is
presumably such people who made the official decision to choose the ISO
country codes. 

However there are good pragmatic reasons to choose GB/GBR, mainly
because these are much more like other languages' representations of
'Great Britain' - French: Grande Bretagne; German: Grossbrittanien;
Spanish: Gran Bretan~a (or something like that).  The corresponding
translations of 'United Kingdom' do not have the initials UK (Royaume
Uni in French, though I'm not sure of the gender, don't know the
others). 

Also with the spread of X.400 mail which uses the ISO country code as
it's 'top level domain' there is now a growing number of UK mail systems
that appear (in RFC 822 terms) under the .gb domain, and we have a
commitment to migrate the .uk domain to .gb in the next few years. 


Sam Wilson
Network Services Division
Computing Services, The University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.misc
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: How is the Net financed and what does it cost?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:29:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.121017.28581@uk03.bull.co.uk> ewoods@hemel.bull.co.uk (Eoin Woods) writes:
>kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
>>>This is all very well, but what on earth are Top Ramen?               

>>Why, it's only the greatest invention in the history of science!   Imagine,

>Ahh - Robin, we call it "Pot Noodle"(TM)!!!
>(The greatest invention ... ???)
>Eoin.
>--
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>| Eoin Woods                         | Tel : +44 442 88-4467 (Fax 4570)     |
>| Application Services Product Unit  | BVN : (UK) 773-4467                  |
>| Bull Information Systems           |                                      |
>| Maxted Road                        | E.Woods@uk03.bull.co.uk              |
>| Hemel Hempstead, Herts HP2 7DZ, UK | ...!relay1.uu.net!uknet!brno!ewoods  |


Oh, ok, it's not THE greatest invention (that's the Salad Shooter[tm]) but
Top Ramen (or "Pot Nodle") runs at least in the top 5.  :)

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban,talk.bizarre
From: John Austin <jea1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14: 24:50 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jea1@cornell.edu
Organization: BTI
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:19:37 GMT

In article <9211112318.18@rmkhome.UUCP> Rick Kelly, rmk@rmkhome.UUCP writes:
>
>And all along I thought it stood for:
>
>	Atonally Tormented Mustard

What about Adoobie Type Mangler?



jea1@cornell.edu
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: lex for dos
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 18:18:58 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group


I just got the biff script for lex... where can I get LEX for dos?

In order of preference:

mail-server
bbs in 516 area code
ftp

thanx/s

--------------------S-N-I-P--------S-N-I-P------------------------------------
Daniel Max P. Drucker                      mertwig!xyzzy@jaflrn.uucp
The 14 year old ((LISP))/C++ genius.

#define SLOGAN  Hey! Lets port it to COBOL!
   Disclaimer: I don't know COBOL.

Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: New dumb user story? Hospital context
From: sietsma@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma Penington)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:26:22 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

The girlfriend of a friend of mine at work (*) is the computer support person
at a Melbourne hospital.  One day she got an irate phonecall from a matron:
"Where are you?  I pushed the help key an hour ago, and nobody's come to 
help yet."

The PC wasn't even part of a network!  I guess in a hospital...'call button
calls a nurse, help key should call support personnel..' ?


Jocelyn
--
(*) good start for a posting in the folklore hierarchy :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.misc
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: How is the Net financed and what does it cost?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:47:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.111648.5430@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.181923.26835@wixer.cactus.org>, rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes:
>|> [in reply to Barry Margolin]
>|> 
>|> so, assuming that my figures are close to correct, your posting a 1k article
>|> would cost the net approximately eight packets of Top Ramen (6/$1.00) plus
>|> enough change for some cheap gum.
>
>This is all very well, but what on earth are Top Ramen?               

Why, it's only the greatest invention in the history of science!   Imagine,
you take some dehydrated noodles, put them in some water, put it all into
the 'wave and cook it for a few minutes.  Take it out, (I drain the water,
but some people leave the water in) add the flavoring (indescribable 
wonderful flavoring) and you then have the answer to hunger and famine
the world over, and it tastes good too. :)

>--
>Robin (come back John Drummond) Fairbairns       rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
>U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
>"They had twelve years to lay in wait for us" - Bush supporter on "Today"

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: bcc@lanai.Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Typewriter-printers (was Re: Wanted: ... and Modem)
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:33:13 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center

In article <1dtoelINNi23@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> sarr@sinshan.citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.055704.11469@fcom.cc.utah.edu> bcc@lanai.Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper) writes:
>>
>>Of course, other baud rates in those early boxes were 75, 110, and 150.
>>Working at 110 baud would make you very tired, very quickly.  I think that
>>110 was what was meant above, not 100 baud.
>>
>Don't forget 134.5.  Used on ald IBM terminals that used 6 bit
>characters (with shift characters) and Selectric (tm) typewriter
>printer mechanics, for all you young folks.
>

Thankfully, I had forgotten. 
On a related vein, did anyone ever use a contraption that sort of
bolted onto a standard electric typewriter and turned it into a printer
by using MECHANICAL FINGERS that would push the keys?
As I recall, the advertising copy bragged that any common electric 
typewriter could be converted to a computer printer in this way.  I
suppose they might have tried it with a manual typewriter too, but
for the carriage return (images of a large lever reaching up and going
WHAPPP!).  My doubts are:  what was the accuracy of the device?  How 
long before the poor typewriter broke under the strain?  Anybody have
first-hand experience?


-- 
Brian Cooper	bcc@Eyring.COM
Eyring Corp.	+1 801-375-2434 or 1 800 YES PDOS
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Value of a PDP-11,VAX-11/750?
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 14 Nov 92 04:07:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

Before anyone flames.... 

don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> Well, you will put up with crappy 110V power.  230V or thereabouts power
> as used in the civilised world lets you get a lot more amps before the
                                                         ^^^^

Someone was up too late last night.  I meant _power_.... <sigh>

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.computers:16185 alt.folklore.urban:28367
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: HP Monitor models
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:37:07 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov12.172127.25913@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas) writes:
>Just noticed something very weird in an installation booklet for a
>HP monitor. It was for the models 1734C and 1734D (probably got the
>number wrong here), and stated that "1734C is sold in the northern
>hemisphere and 1734D in the southern hemisphere".
>
>I really can't think of an explanation for that... 

Perhaps another Coriollis force issue?

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Unix administration horror stories.
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:33:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.211002.2189@gacvx2.gac.edu> kraft@gac.edu writes:
>In article <160wTB1w165w@mertwig.UUCP>  writes:
>>Where can I ftp linux from?
>
>As my .sig states below, tsx-11.mit.edu is one place to get it.  Another
>is sunsite.unc.edu.

I'd like to redirect anyone who's interested in Linux to comp.os.linux, which
is literally teeming with posts about the free UNIX variant. This is not
me being a net.cop, but rather trying to point out the best place for this
kind of info. For those of you who don't know what Linux is (yes, there are
some people who haven't heard...), it's a free UNIX clone for 80386 and 80486 
based machines. So is 386BSD.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "She's like jelly roll, like sculpture!"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Subject: Re: proliferation of alt.adjective.noun.verb.verb.verb groups
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:59:39 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Distribution: usa
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

alange@rahul.net (Andrew Lange) writes:
>Just recently, I tried a "grep '\(\.[a-z][a-z]*\)\1\1' .newsrc", just for
>fun, and this is what I got:
>
[lotsa groups deleted]
>alt.henry.qua.qua.qua!
[lotsa groups deleted]

Huh! This is an oddity.  Obviously it refers to Henry "Qua!" Massalin, who
just recently received his Ph.D. in CompSci here at Columbia U. and moved on
to the "real" world.  Henry is notable for a number of things, including his
deep identification with koala bears, his design of a truly revolutionary new
operating system called Synthesis, and his status as the co-inventor of the
Quamachine, which was (when originally designed) unique in being the only
symmetric dual-processor machine capable of being separated into two
independently-functional parts, which he and the other inventor could take
with them when they went to college.  As Dave Barry would say, I am not making
this up.

The strange thing is, I can't receive this group (and my boss Seth "the
Greater" tries to run the best-connected news site in the world).

To the guys here in the Department: look, if I mangled the Henry story, flame
me for it by mail and I'll post the corrections, OK? To Henry, if he's
reading: Qua!

	Seth "the Lesser"

Seth L. Blumberg          \ Warning: This posting has been determined to cause
slb22@columbia.edu (play)   \ cancer in laboratory animals.  Please make sure
sethb@ctr.columbia.edu (work) \ that no white mice are allowed to read it.  
    > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: HP Monitor models
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:53:32 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Nov12.172127.25913@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas) writes:
>Just noticed something very weird in an installation booklet for a
>HP monitor. It was for the models 1734C and 1734D (probably got the
>number wrong here), and stated that "1734C is sold in the northern
>hemisphere and 1734D in the southern hemisphere".
>
>I really can't think of an explanation for that... 

   o  The Coriolis force on the electrons is sufficient to distort
      display?

   o  The different orientation of the earth's magnetic field is
      sufficient to distort the display?

       >:-) as if it were needed
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: *free* Unix ?? (was: Unix admin horror stories)
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:01:03 GMT

In article <1dnu6lINNchh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>  
pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:
> ...
> The problem is that there are no *free* 286 unix packages like there are
> for the 386 (386BSD and Linux).  
> ...
Can someone tell me where to get a copy of one of these *free* unix
packages?

Thanks...

Mark
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Keywords: game
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 19:07:11 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=) writes:

> What was the very first computer game?  When I say computer game, I mean a
> game that would not exist without the computer. (ex: ZORK, Adventure,
> Pac-Man, but not computer Tic-Tac-Toe or computer chess.)

Space Wars, for the PDP-1. (Is that the right name?)


--
Daniel Max P. Drucker            | #define SLOGAN Hey! Lets port it to COBOL!
The 14 year old LISP/C++ genius. | Disclaimer: I don't know COBOL.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\/~\/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: bcc@lanai.Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Altair 800 or Imsai 8080 and Modem
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 05:57:04 GMT

In article <PPV2TB7w165w@mertwig.UUCP> xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) writes:
>[ME: acoustic coupler wanted]
>> Sure I have one at home that can do 100/300/450. Talk about blazing
>> power!
>
>450?

Yup, 450.  Lots of systems couldn't go 600 baud but could go faster than 300
baud, so 450 was a not-uncommon attempt to squeeze the last amount of speed
from the channel.  If you could make the UART do it, the modem would try to
follow since it was already looking at the bitstream as an analog signal. 
There were no commands to set the modem speed -- just the port speed.

Of course, other baud rates in those early boxes were 75, 110, and 150.
Working at 110 baud would make you very tired, very quickly.  I think that
110 was what was meant above, not 100 baud.

An interesting thing you could do with this stuff was insert an audio jack
in the case and run the signal to a tape recorder.  My Novation CAT had a
test mode where it didn't need to have a carrier present to signal; I would
hook my old H-19 terminal (built with my own two hands) to the modem, put
the terminal in local mode, type in a page of text, turn on the tape recorder,
tell the H-19 to screen dump, and record about 2K of data on the tape in a
bit more than 1 minute.  A 45 minute tape would hold about 70 K of text if
I was careful.  I'd then put the tape recorder in playback, call the remote
computer, and download the 70K in a burst while I did something else.  I even
had a modification hooked into the terminal so that the BEL would toggle a
relay that turned the tape recorder on and off.

>
>Daniel Max P. Drucker            | #define SLOGAN Hey! Lets port it to COBOL!
>The 14 year old net.comm.genius. | Disclaimer: I don't know COBOL.
     ^^
This may be the problem.  Most of this equipment was retired before you came
on to the scene.
-- 
Brian Cooper	bcc@Eyring.COM
Eyring Corp.	+1 801-375-2434 or 1 800 YES PDOS
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: value of a pdp-11,va
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:26:00 GMT

In article <n0df4t@ofa123.fidonet.org>, Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.fidonet.org writes...
>   I recently sold my PDP-11/03 with 512K and two RL-02 30 meg 
>disk drives for $250.00 and my VT-200 for $25 (which I wish I 
>hadn't). I'd say it depends on the -11. Is it a 70 with the cool 
>purple front panel? Or a 45 that makes for a suitable anchor?

	Considering the speed of a 45 versus an 11/03, and considering the
	weight of a 45 versus a 70, it's strange that you refer to the 45
	as the anchor. Ours was a fast, reliable machine. It was capable
	of running a reasonable configuration off a single 15amp service.

	70s are nice machines, but one of the few not really suitable for
	most home use, due to size, weight, (urg, grunt,) as you drag it up
	to the second floor or (thud) carry it down to the basement.

	03s are nice for small operations, but didn't have the performance
	(only because of floating point, but that really hurt.)

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
  Center for Radiation Therapy   | |_) _   They'll nail anyone who ever scrat-
                                   | \|_)  ched his ass during the National
    "Birthplace of Softball"          |_)  Anthem. - H Bogart on the House un-
					   American Activities Committee
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: connor@nexus.yorku.ca (James Connor)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:03:15 GMT


Here's my $0.02 worth....

	According to a 25th anniversary PR magazine (from Digital, no less),
the very first video game was something very close to what I was introduced
to in a Dublin arcade as 'Spacewar'. It was, so the article stated, played
on a DEC PDP-1, c. 1961, using some kind of x-y monitor (judging by the photo
insert).

	Any takers....?