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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: veatch@cs.toronto.edu (Tim Veatch)
Subject: twm and setting $DISPLAY
Organization: Toronto
Fake-Sender: "Tim Veatch" <veatch@cs.toronto.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:51:27 GMT

I sometimes use the twm's root menu to open up various
xterm's.  I would have twm executing on my local host
and in my .login file the following to set my $DISPLAY
properly:

	#
	#  Figure out who we are logged in from, to set Xwindow DISPLAY properly.
	#
	if (! $?DISPLAY ) then
   	set whoami = `who am i`
   	if ( $?whoami ) then
      	set rhost = `echo $whoami | sed "s/.*(//" | sed "s/).*//"`
      	setenv DISPLAY "$rhost":0
      	echo "Setting DISPLAY to $rhost":0
      	unset rhost
   	endif
   	unset whoami
	endif

Now my problem: to reduce my charges, I now have twm executing
on a remote machine.  Does anyone know a good way to set
my $DISPLAY?

My apologies if this in the wrong group to post such a request.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: borchert@walt.MsState.Edu (Chris Borchert)
Subject: Is there an X filemgr like Sun's OW filemgr?
Organization: /home/grad/borchert/.organization
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:48:09 GMT

I am looking for an X program to do directory structures using icons like
Sun's filemgr under OpenWindows.  Does such a thing exist?  Or anything like
it?

Thanks,
Chris Borchert
borchert@CS.MsState.Edu
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: rthau@qualix.com (Rick Thau)
Subject: Re: An X address book tool...
Reply-To: rthau@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:13:04 GMT

a new product called Flashdex is available from Qualix. Please contact us at the 
number below for more information.


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- Rick Thau
	voice:	415/572-0200
	fax:	415/572-1300
	email:	rthau@qualix.com
	mail:	Qualix Group, Inc
		1900 S. Norfolk St., #224
		San Mateo, CA 94403
--------------------------------------------------------------
Qualix maintains a mailserver with information files and demo
versions of products.  If you would like more information on
the mailserver, send an email to qfacts@qualix.com (or,
uunet!qualix!qfacts).  The email body should take the following
form:
	BEGIN
	send help 
	send index
	END
	Name
	Address
	Phone
--------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: tholle16@uther.calvin.edu (Tim Hollebeek)
Subject: Re: Application to handle talk request?
Keywords: talk, popup
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:04:24 GMT

durian28@ecst.csuchico.edu (dl) writes:

>Is there any X-based application that will popup as soon as
>there is a talk request?  I know there is the 'xtalkbiff', 
>but I am interested in an immediate popup program with a talk
>session ready.  Thanks in advance.

Here's one way to do it ... make your xterms not add utmp entries,
except one xterm, which is set to pipe it's output (using the log file
option) through a program that checks for talk messages, and spawns
xterm -e talk xxxxx when necessary.

It's really messy, but it works ... :)

If you have any suggestions of better ways to do it, please mail me
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Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 15:01:18 CET
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: ppregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler)
Distribution: world
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Subject: Re: X windows editors - AXE
Keywords: editor axe textedit xedit

In article <1ghup5INN7p3@dapsun.lif.icnet.uk>,
alex@lamarck.lif.icnet.uk (Alex Whittaker <alex@biu.icnet.uk>)
writes:
>
>   I require a simple stripped down text editor as an alternative to
> textedit and
>  xedit, preferably with source code available. I have been
> recommended axe, but
>  archie cannot see it. Does anyone have any suggestions..?
>
Try looking for aXe. The capital X is not typo!

-Peter.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: sakharov@hanoi.cern.ch (V. Sakharov)
Subject: Re: X spreadsheet program
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for Particle Physics
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:58:57 GMT

	Hello, Steve!
	Let me suggest you to try xspread you looking for from
	University of Wisconsin.
	Below you'll find README:

______________________________________________________________

   Copyright (C) 1992  Board of Regents of the University of Wisconsin
   System on behalf of Department of EE and CS, University of
   Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

-------------
*Description*
-------------

    A spread sheet program for X windows. Has supports for multiple
    types of graphics, mouse, and Lotus files.

-------
*Notes*
-------

   The programs in this directory were developed by software engineering
   teams as part of the course "Introduction to Software Engineering"
   under the supervision of Professor G. Davida.

   The last team members to work on this project were

      Mike Frey
      Fang Wang
      Jim Cornelius
      Dan Gruber

   Please send all changes, enhancements, and other comments about this
   software to
                soft-eng@cs.uwm.edu

     You can find this program on all the usual places such as
     export.lcs.mit.edu or currently locally here at the University
     of Wisconsin-Milwaukee on

                vernam.cs.uwm.edu

---------
*INSTALL*
---------

    should be pretty simple.  Use the Imakefile

    xmkmf
    make
    make install
    make install.man

     ______________________________________________________________
    /\               University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee          \
    \_| Computing Services Division     Computer Science Department |
      |   jimj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu           jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu    |
      |   jimj@convex.csd.uwm.edu                                   |
      |   __________________________________________________________|___
       \_/_____________________________________________________________/

_______________________________________________________________________
	Should say it works and not so bad...
						Hope it'll be usefull,
						Cheers, Vassily
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:1692 vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks:3727
From: cowleym@sacomm.schulz.unisa.edu.au ()
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Xapps. running on Ultrix over DECnet to PCs with Pathworks
Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:44:01 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cowleym@sacomm.schulz.unisa.edu.au ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: saccs1.schulz.unisa.edu.au
Keywords: x, pathworks


I'm reposting this item here, as I got no response from comp.windows.x:

Server System: DECstation 5000, running Ultrix 4.3, Motif Windows, Pathworks for
		Ultrix v1.2 and DECnet

Using eXcursion V1.? on a PC, we're trying to run an Xapplication (dxclock) 
over DECnet on the Ultrix server and get the error message:

Application not found in host "dxclock"

Defining the application as /usr/bin/dxclock produces the same error.
The "User's Guide" suggests we check application startup command, host and user
information which all looks OK to us.

Using MacX on a Mac LC, we try to run the same Xapplication (dxclock) over
DECnet an the Ultrix server and get the error message:

remote command "Clock (DECnet)" (this name is defined as dxclock) could not be
executed via the tool "DECnet Tool". Creation of the remote command stream
failed.

Yet, if we log on to the Ultrix server from either the Mac or PC and type:

setenv DISPLAY <nodename>::0.0

we can run dxclock and the application is re-directed to the Mac or PC
successfully.

Is there something else we must do on the Ultrix server to make eXcursion or
MacX run X applications successfully?

Any help appreciated,

Margaret
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:1701 news.software.notes:42
From: klaus@tat2.esf.de (Klaus Wicovsky)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,news.software.notes
Subject: Word Wrapping in XRN
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:11:14 GMT
Reply-To: klaus@tat2.esf.de (Klaus Wicovsky)
Followup-To: comp.windows.x.apps
Organization: ESF Headquarters, Berlin, FRG

Hello ,

My xrn works fine except for one little problem: 

When I want to post an article and I write my text in the Composition window
the editor will nicely perform a word-wrapping. It looks ok on the screen.

The problem is that when xrn actually posts the article, it seems to forget the
CRs it had done on the screen. In other words, my articles don't contain CRs 
unless I insert them explicity.

An example for the correct behaviour would be xmh. There I get my word-wrap 
AND the email message does really contain the CRs.

I hope I didn't forget any CRs in this article. Any help is reeealy appreciated. 


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From: bardo@ief-paris-sud.fr (Bardo Muller)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: @ext() dead in sc/ss/xspread ?
Keywords: sc, ss, xspread, external function calls
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:52:48 GMT
Reply-To: bardo@ief-paris-sud.fr
Organization: Universite de Paris

Dear readers,

I'd like to call a external (c/fortran/unix) function.
In the doc this is @ext(e,x), e being the called function
and x being the parameter to be passed.
All I got so far is <illegal numerical value> or something
like that. The behavior is quite similar in the above
mentioned programs.

Someone who got it running ?

BTW: how to call a function W/O parameters ?

Thanks,

Bardo

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 Bat. 220 Universite Paris Sud         | e-mail : bardo@ief-paris-sud.fr  
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From: larry@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu (Larry Rowe)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: Simple App. to display text?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 03:00:21 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: larry@cs.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: tweety.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <MAP.92Dec16133055@songlines.BBN.Com>, map@BBN.Com (Mike Patton) writes:
|> I'm looking for a simple application that can sit at the end of a
|> pipeline, collect the output and then popup a window showing the text.

Take a look at the Tcl/Tk system from Berkeley.  I think you can do
what you want with it without much trouble.

You can FTP the code from sprite.berkeley.edu in the directory tcl.
	Larry
From: vances@xenitec.on.ca (Vance Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: X-Face:
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:24:47 GMT
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA

Can anyone clue me into the story on X-Face headers in mail?
I retrieved a copy of xface-1.0 but this seems to only match
the From: line with locally stored faces.  Another question:
does ftp.uu.net export their /faces directory for use with this?

-- 
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From: black@nostromo.OES.ORST.EDU (Michael J. Black)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: mouse-odometer
Keywords: mouse
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:57:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1gt6vmINNq4p
Distribution: world
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nostromo.oes.orst.edu

I am looking for any sort of "mouse-odometer".  I'm sure you've seen it on the
macintosh.  Does anyone know if this program exists or would be hard to write?

black@oes.orst.edu
(I will die without this program!)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: tribble@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Peter C. Tribble)
Subject: Re: Displaying a client on several servers
Organization: Institute of Astronomy, Cambridge
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.131933.26308@kub.nl>, wessel@kub.nl (Wessel Kraaij) writes:
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> We want to show a window on several different displays simultateously, in order
|> to demonstrate a package for a large group of people.
|> 
|> We did this 2 years ago with xwatchin, but this tends to slow down our servers
|> enormously in our present hw/sw configuration.
|> 
|> I also know xmx but the version I know (1.0) is buggy. This program does a real
|> multiplexing of the X events which is to be preferred over simply copying a
|> window, like xwatchwin.
|> 
|> Are there any new versions of these tools available or is there something new to
|> help us out?

It sounds like you want something like xtv (X Teleconferencing Vehicle), which
I think came with X11R5 contrib. It works with most but not all X applications.

-------------------------------------------------------------
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| Institute of Astronomy                                    |
| Madingley Road                                            |
| Cambridge UK                                              |
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: rthau@qualix.com (Rick Thau)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Text editor with postscript output
Reply-To: rthau@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:14:44 GMT

In article 085555E62642@TRMETU.BITNET, <E62642@TRMETU.BITNET> () writes:
>Hello;
>We are  using Xwindows R.5. What we need is a text editor with
>postscript output or a file converter that converts text files
>into postscript format. We dont need to use graphics or insert
>figures into the text. So is there such a program, preferably
>free, and how can we obtain it? Thanks in advance.
>
>Ozgur Aktas
>e-mail : e62642@TRMETU.bitnet


Adobe Transcript (now in version 4.0) will do this and more. Information is
available from the mail server below. Command should be send transcript.

---
- Rick Thau
	voice:	415/572-0200
	fax:	415/572-1300
	email:	rthau@qualix.com
	mail:	Qualix Group, Inc
		1900 S. Norfolk St., #224
		San Mateo, CA 94403
--------------------------------------------------------------
Qualix maintains a mailserver with information files and demo
versions of products.  If you would like more information on
the mailserver, send an email to qfacts@qualix.com (or,
uunet!qualix!qfacts).  The email body should take the following
form:
	BEGIN
	send help 
	send index
	END
	Name
	Address
	Phone
--------------------------------------------------------------

Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:1696 vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks:3746
From: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us (There is no substitute for displacement...)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Xapps. running on Ultrix over DECnet to PCs with Pathworks
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:39:24 GMT
Organization: Not Organized

In article <1ggvu1INNoqi@sacomm.schulz.unisa.edu.au> cowleym@sacomm.schulz.unisa.edu.au writes:
>
>I'm reposting this item here, as I got no response from comp.windows.x:
>
>Server System: DECstation 5000, running Ultrix 4.3, Motif Windows, Pathworks for
>		Ultrix v1.2 and DECnet
>
>Using eXcursion V1.? on a PC, we're trying to run an Xapplication (dxclock) 
>over DECnet on the Ultrix server and get the error message:
>
>Application not found in host "dxclock"
>
>Defining the application as /usr/bin/dxclock produces the same error.
>The "User's Guide" suggests we check application startup command, host and user
>information which all looks OK to us.
>
>Using MacX on a Mac LC, we try to run the same Xapplication (dxclock) over
>DECnet an the Ultrix server and get the error message:
>
>remote command "Clock (DECnet)" (this name is defined as dxclock) could not be
>executed via the tool "DECnet Tool". Creation of the remote command stream
>failed.
>
>Yet, if we log on to the Ultrix server from either the Mac or PC and type:
>
>setenv DISPLAY <nodename>::0.0
>
>we can run dxclock and the application is re-directed to the Mac or PC
>successfully.
>
>Is there something else we must do on the Ultrix server to make eXcursion or
>MacX run X applications successfully?
>
>Any help appreciated,
>
>Margaret
>--
>AusMail: Margaret Cowley, UniSA, Schulz Building, Kintore Ave.,Adelaide,SAust.
>E-Mail : cowleym@schulz.unisa.edu.au, Phone:+61 8 301 1617, FAX:+61 8 301 2602

Yes, you are missing something... on a VAX, there is a command file which 
is being fired first (transparently) called msax$client.com (I think it 
is in msa$root:[msa]... it might be useful for you to look at it).  It 
accepts your 'remote command' and manages the display environment for 
it.  For pc's, there is an equivalent file, but I cannot recall its name.  
Neither of these will exist on Ultrix, or on any system other than a VAX 
running PathWorks.  (BTW, if you decide to translate 
msax$client or the PC equivalent to a script file, please mail me a 
copy...)

Try the following:

o try having the 'remote command' be 'dxclock -display <pc_node_name>::0'
  (I believe this is how we handle it...)
  
o Instead of trying to run the application directly, have the PC fire a 
  script file which does: dxclock -display <pc_node_name>::0

bob
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From: mike@oliver.olivetti.se (M. Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Looking for talk for X11, and problem with talk in X11.
Keywords: xtalk, talk
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:03:46 GMT
Organization: Olivetti Standard System, Stockholm Sweden

From my PC I can connect my i486 based AT&T UNIX SVR4 server with X11R4 
in several ways.
One way is with PC/TCP and another is via a X-terminal emulator.
When I try to 'talk person' in X I get a message saying something like
'Who are you ... No entry in /var/adm/utmp'. If I from this window do a
login first I can do 'talk person' without problems.
On other machines running X which I connect with rlogin it also works allright.
From PC/TCP rloginvt it also works fine.
I have tried with '+ut' as an option to xterm without success.
I think something can be done with xdm, but I cannot figure out what.
Can anybody give a hint, please?

I am also intrested in sources for Xtalk. Are there shareware, freeware or
somethingware available? In that case were can I obtain them, and will they
give me the same problem?

Thanxvance Michael
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: tmk@mayo.edu (Tom Kinter)
Subject: Re: X spreadsheet program
Reply-To: tmk@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic/Foundation Rochester MN Campus
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:28:18 GMT


There's xspread-1.1 at ftp.cs.uwm.edu

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    Mayo Foundation
    Rochester, Minnesota 55905 USA
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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: X windows editors - AXE
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:26:04 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Keywords: editor axe textedit xedit

In article <1ghup5INN7p3@dapsun.lif.icnet.uk>, alex@lamarck.lif.icnet.uk
(Alex Whittaker <alex@biu.icnet.uk>) writes:
|>  I have been recommended axe, but
|>  archie cannot see it. Does anyone have any suggestions..?

Its on export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib. European users should look into
ftp.germany.eu.net:/pub/X11/contrib. The file name is aXe-3.1.tar.Z.

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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:1685 comp.mail.mh:1380
From: epeas@abds7.aberdeen.chevron.com (John Peach)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.mail.mh
Subject: xmh R5
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: epeas@aberdeen.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron (UK) Ltd.
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are mine; _not_ those of        
            the company I work for.


Can someone please mail me the app defaults file for xmh R5 - I do not
have ftp access outside the company.

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From: alberto@cs.umd.edu (Jose Alberto Fernandez R)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: Application to handle talk request?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:47:03 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Computer Sc.
In-reply-to: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk's message of 14 Dec 92 20:43:08 GMT


One way to doit in using CONTOOL the X console program. You can
install filter that can execute a program when a particular message
appears in the console. You can have multiline messages.

I had something like that installed, the only problem is how to refuse
a call. If you do not take the call inmediately every time TALK rings
you will get another execution of your command. This should be not
that difficult to fix, but it probably needs more programming than I
was willing to spend. You can get arguments for your program from the
filtered message. So you could even select between talk and otalk
automatically.

	Jose Alberto.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Subject: Where is IRIT (3D modelling)
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:03:15 GMT

Hello all,

	Where can I find IRIT (a 3D modelling package for X11)?

Thanks in advance.
Edwin
ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
From: buck@netcom.com (Charles Foreman)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Where is FAQ ? Pixmap editor ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:35:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Hi,

Where is there a FAQ for this newsgroup kept ?

Is there an editor/paint style program for creating X pixmaps ? Preferably
one that spits out UIL and allow for the definition of color tables and
color pixmaps. I have one in the VUIT interface builder product I got from
DEC, but it is real basic.

Respond email or post.

Thanks in advance,

	Buck Foreman ( buck@netcom.com )