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From: rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith)
Subject: Chloramine, the tap water poison
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:28:32 GMT

In <Ra1koB1w164w@aqua.ocunix.on.ca> cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postmaster)) writes:

>For those unaware, the regional municipality starts using chloramine to 
>purify water today - a change from the previously used chlorine.  Chlormaine 
>is extermely toxic to fish, and even the slightest amount of wtap water 
>entering an aquarium/fish bowl without first being treated with a chloramine 
>remover could wipe out your fish.
> 

Does anyone have more details. An activated charcoal filter is the only 
effective removal agent for chloriamine, as far as I have heard. Distilation
will not help, someone at the city must have stock in a filter company as
most of the laboratories in town use distilled water and now have to switch
to filters.

If distilation does not work I can't leave an open jug in the fridge overnight
and let the chlorine evaporate anymore.

Anyone have solid information on Chloramine.
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:06:00 GMT
Distribution: ott
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <13175@bnr-rsc.UUCP> jim@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Jim Somerville) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.143833.13012@bmerh85.bnr.ca> dragog@bnr.ca (Drago Goricanec) writes:
>>Gas prices
>>in Europe, I hear, are 3 to 4 times more expensive than here.

>Generally speaking, we pay half of what they pay in Europe.
>Why?  Maybe because we live so close to the USA, a country that will
>go to war to ensure its God given right to cheap gasoline.

Nope.  Much simpler than that.  Oil producing countries usually have
lower prices than other countries.  Canada is an oil-producing country.
Non oil-producing countries tend to have high taxes to try to offset
the horrendous trade deficit.

Which war are you referring to?  Iraq?  May I remind you that the USA
didn't buy oil from Iraq *or* Kuwait?
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From: pwall@bnr.ca (Patrick Wall)
Subject: Blue Jays Tickets for sale
Keywords: blue jays 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:00:35 GMT


I am posting this for a friend of mine, so please call him, not me. Thx.

       
       Blue Jays / Yankees  Tickets
       August 1, 1992
       Toronto Sky Dome
       $13.50 each  (he has two tickets).

  If interested, call Nathan at 824-9001 after 5:00pm.


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                               Ottawa, ON, CANADA      |necessarily BNRs
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From: gwaters@bwdls139.bnr.ca (Glenn Waters)
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: ott
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:27:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.132003.15769@bnr.ca>, dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer) writes:
|> 
|> I seriously doubt the boycott will work because of the following:
|> 
|> 1) Ottawa is the apathy capital of the universe.  Previous boycotts ended
|>    in dismal failures, so based on the past, I predict the same thing will
|>    occur.
Sounds like you fit in well in Ottawa.
|> -- 
|> D.W.J.Zolmer     dwjz@bnr.ca    +1 613 763-8217     Disclaimer: my opinions only

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From: echeung@bwdlh96.BNR.CA (Elizabeth Cheung)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: For Sale: $76,900 Condo Apt
Keywords: Condo
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:25:28 GMT
Reply-To: echeung@bwdlh96.BNR.CA (Elizabeth Cheung)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


          *** Only  $78,900, Large 1 bedroom      ****
          *** Good rental property. Newly Painted.
     Bedroom:     13'   x 12'     Living room: 18'   x 12'
     Dining Room:  9.5' x  9.5'   Kitchen:      9.0  x  7.5'
     Enclosed sunroom: 9.0' x 7.0'

In Merivale & Meadowlands area, 
- Has outdoor landscaped area, common workshop, locker room,party room,
- 2 guest suites, reading room
- Condo fees approx $180/month, includes Heat, Hydro & Parking.
- outdoor heated pool, 1 parking spot in underground heated garage
- very secure building, intercom system, bus stop in front
  of building, walking distance to shopping malls.

Contact: Elizabeth Cheung   (w) 765-4565   (h) 224-4274





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From: kuracina@bmerh301.bnr.ca (Lawrence Kuracina)
Subject: '83 Scirocco Forsale
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:40:41 GMT


         1983 Volkswagon Scirocco

   Sporty 4-cylinder, fuel injection, 5-speed
   Complete with sunroof and bucket seats.

   New: Brakes, exhuast, am/fm/cass stereo,
        windshield, and paintjob.

     Excellent condition; only 144,207 km
 
    Asking only $3700 with Saftey Check (obo).
        
      call Gary: (613) 829-7229  (Ottawa)
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From: janick@bcrkd13.bnr.ca (Janick Bergeron)
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Reply-To: janick@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Timing Verification Group
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:36:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.173336.19950@bcrka451.bnr.ca>,
janick@bcrkd13.bnr.ca (Janick Bergeron) writes:
> [ I have no ties with CCCP, just amazed that gas is 0.03 cents cheaper
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^
Woops! this shoud read "$0.03" Otherwise, I wouldn't worry about
a 0.05% difference :-)

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From: leclercl@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Louis Leclerc)
Subject: Looking for reasonable social dance instruction
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: ott
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:39:16 GMT


     My fiance and myself are looking for social dance instruction
(ie. waltz, swing, rhumba..etc). If you know of any good schools or
individuals who provide such instruction at reasonable rates, could
you please send me note.

Thank You;

-louis LECLERC

leclercl@bnr.ca
From: david@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (David Stimson)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Organization: Zone4
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:07:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.173336.19950@bcrka451.bnr.ca> janick@bnr.ca writes:
>[ I have no ties with CCCP, just amazed that gas is 0.03 cents cheaper
>  in Orleans than in Bells Corner's ]
>

What really gets me are these people who go hunting for that .01 cent
cheaper...it's not really going to save them that much money....think about it.
Using your example of .03, you'd have to buy 100 litres to save 3 cents...
That's about what, say 4 fillups <guessing at 25 litres/fillup>.
 
Admittedly, this would add up for the gas stations, but for the average
consumer, this is looking for peanuts...
 
I agree that Ottawa has gas prices way too high...what we need is a good
price war...
 

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From: dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer)
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Reply-To: dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: ott
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:48:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.035217.4674@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
|> Frankly Doug, you remind me of those cartoon housewives who come back
|> from shopping expeditions bragging about all the money they saved at
|> the big sale, buying everything in sight.  :-)
|> 

Hmm... Wilma Flintstone and Betty Rubble - what a pair! 
"Chaaarrrrggge it!"   ;-)

I'm not as big a spend-a-holic as I sound like.  Sure, I "rent" videos too 
(the Ottawa Public library has a very large selection of LaserDisc titles
that you can borrow _for free_ (now that's cheap!), but I also like to 
collect them.  I'm really interested in science fiction movies.  Some 
people collect baseball cards or stamps - I collect movies on LaserDisc.  
If I'm going to spend my after-tax money I'm going to try to find the 
cheapest price; the cheaper it is, the less tax I pay to line Bob and 
Brian's pockets.  

|> The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself

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Newsgroups: ott.general
From: marc@fozzi.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Donovan)
Subject: Mac Wanted
Organization: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:25:09 GMT

G'Day.

My company is looking for a second hand Mac for testing purposes 
(took me long enough to convince them!)  The major criteria, at
this point, are cost and flexibility.

Therefore, does anyone have a Mac II or better (ie: something I can insert
lan boards in.) that they want to get rid of?  Needs minimal harddrive (or
can even be without hard drive), a keyboard and a screen.  At least 2 megs
of RAM would be nice (I'd settle for one).  If the price is right, I'd
also consider an SE (I think it's got a slot somewhere...)

Please either post your reply here,  via email, or call me at work.
I'll be needing the system before September.
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From: andras@alzabo.ocunix.on.ca (Andras Kovacs)
Subject: IBM PS/2 Model 65SX for Japanese car (standard)
Organization: Brian's XENIXlings, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 00:32:04 GMT
Summary: Anyone interested in a swap (barter) of an IBM PS/2 Model 65SX?
Keywords: IBM PS/2 Model 65, computer, car, Japanese, standard, swap, barter

  I have an IBM PS/2 Model 65SX (16Mhz 80386SX with 2MB RAM, 60MB SCSI hard
disk, VGA, Microsoft Mouse (works through PS/2 Mouse Port or serial port),
keyboard, Reference Diskette - NO MONITOR). I would like to exchange it for
a standard Japanese car (preferably Civic). Do not mail me - call at the
number 225-7789.

  Thanks,

  Andras
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Nepean, Ont., Canada
From: James_Mcormond@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Distribution: world
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:49:48 EST

In a message dated Tue 27 Jul 92  1:34, Rwm@atronx.ocunix.on.ca (russell Mc
wrote:

 RM>   You'll find it much easier in Ottawa, as there is a bicycle path
 RM> network
 RM> that can get you pretty close to anywhere you'd want to go, while
 RM> avoiding SmogMachines (Cars ;-).

I don't mind the SmogMachines, its the drivers i'm worried about :-)

 RM>  I'll have to be on the lookout for a new map,
 RM> as I haven't seen one in many of the local cycle stores lately (and
 RM> I've been in a few - I might not have noticed where they were,
though).

I've got this little tiny one that came in a goodie bag or something when
we were in Ottawa in April ,but it doesn't show the whole city and doesn't
look too new :-)

 RM>   Then again, you won't likely make use of that 'Photo ID' for that
 RM> type of purpose when you get to Ottawa anyways ;-)

I have my Age of Majority card already, so I have photo id :-)

Jammer

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From: cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postmaster))
Newsgroups: ott.general,sci.med
Subject: Re: To all people who keep fish as pets/whatever
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:00:17 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau) writes:

> >>>>> On 27 Jul 92 17:40:50 GMT, cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postmaste
> 
> Cowan> For those unaware, the regional municipality starts using
> Cowan> chloramine to purify water today - a change from the previously
> Cowan> used chlorine.  Chlormaine is extermely toxic to fish, and even
> 				     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cowan> the slightest amount of wtap water entering an aquarium/fish
> Cowan> bowl without first being treated with a chloramine remover
> Cowan> could wipe out your fish.
> 
> If chlormaine is that toxic, should there be concern on its long term
> effect on human consumption?
> 

Apparently chloramine is broken down by the human digestive system, although 
it gets broken into other chemicals.  I do know that chloramine is toxic to 
humans if it gets in the blood stream, so dialysis patients will have to use 
only de-chloraminated water.


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From: steve@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (no)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:39:23 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

dragog@bmerh92.bnr.ca (Drago Goricanec) writes:

> In article <1992Jul23.173336.19950@bcrka451.bnr.ca> janick@bnr.ca writes:
> |> I heard on the radio 1hr ago that Shell was chosen at random to
> |> be the major gasoline distributor to boycott.
> |> 
> |> To show your support, please put a red ribbon on your car antenna.
> 
> Just to add, the boycott of Shell will be in effect until Shell can
> reduce their price by 3 to 8 cents a litre.
> --
> Drago Goricanec, +1 613 763-8957,   Internet:  dragog@bnr.ca
> Communications Systems, Software Development (OSI Protocols)
> Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of BNR.

When I was in London a couple weeks ago, gas was 58 cents, the same as here! 
I don't drive anymore, but I didn't think that gas was godawfully more 
expensive in Ottawa than anywhere else...


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From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: Gas Boycott
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:01:20 GMT

In article <9207247744@zone4.ocunix.on.ca>, david@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (David Stimson) writes:
|> 
|> What really gets me are these people who go hunting for that .01 cent
                                                                ^^^^^^^^
|> cheaper...it's not really going to save them that much money....think about it.
|> Using your example of .03, you'd have to buy 100 litres to save 3 cents...
|> That's about what, say 4 fillups <guessing at 25 litres/fillup>.
|>  
|> Admittedly, this would add up for the gas stations, but for the average
|> consumer, this is looking for peanuts...
|>  
|> I agree that Ottawa has gas prices way too high...what we need is a good
|> price war...
|> 
And how do we stimulate a price war?  Only fill up at stations that sells 
cheaper gas.  For starters, I go to McEwen near baseline/pinecrest junction.
They're selling at 56.x(forgot the last decimal) cents/litre.  Anyone know
of cheaper gas in the west end?
 
|> 
|> -|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
|> david@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (David Stimson)            The Pink Bermuda Triangle
|>    "The difference between computers and people is that for computers, the
|>              Software goes into the Hardware" - Torchsong Trilogy 
|> 

...Kyle
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From: roihar@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: looking for algonquin college (Ottawa) internet address
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:35:27 GMT

Preferably Lees Avenue Campus but willing to start at Woodroffe.
Need an internet address. Do they have anonymous FTP area?
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From: rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith)
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:33:08 GMT

In <1992Jul27.131543.17294@bnr.ca> Reg Foulkes writes:
>Great for the summer, but what do you do in the winter? I heard that there are
>covered recumbent bikes, but I haven't seen any. Do you have one?

What is the connection between covered recumbant bicycles and winter ? :-)

The big hazard to winter cycling is road conditions. The salt on the
roads reduces bikes to nothing very quickly if you are unable to perform
complete overhauls every week. A second hazard in winter cycling is 
reduced road widths. Ice patches are also difficult spots. Are studs for
bicycles as illegal as studded tires for cars?

Winter weather just requires proper clothing and a place to change at the other
end.

Yet another without a drivers license(seems to be a fair number of us around).
Richard Griffith.
From: cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postmaster))
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Chloramine, the tap water poison
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:06:13 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith) writes:

> In <Ra1koB1w164w@aqua.ocunix.on.ca> cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postma
> 
> >For those unaware, the regional municipality starts using chloramine to 
> >purify water today - a change from the previously used chlorine.  Chlormaine
> >is extermely toxic to fish, and even the slightest amount of wtap water 
> >entering an aquarium/fish bowl without first being treated with a chloramine
> >remover could wipe out your fish.
> > 
> 
> Does anyone have more details. An activated charcoal filter is the only 
> effective removal agent for chloriamine, as far as I have heard. Distilation
> will not help, someone at the city must have stock in a filter company as
> most of the laboratories in town use distilled water and now have to switch
> to filters.
> 
> If distilation does not work I can't leave an open jug in the fridge overnigh
> and let the chlorine evaporate anymore.
> 
> Anyone have solid information on Chloramine.

 
Actually, activated carbon will do very little unless you have an 
exceptionally good carbon filter with a very slow throughput to allow ample 
contact time.  The most effective way to remove it is by using a 
de-chloraminating chemical.  Chloramine will leave if you let the water 
stand for a few weeks.  I don't know if it can be distilled out.
 
I am looking at it from an aquarist point of view.  You may not want to 
drink the water that has been dechloraminated with Tetra AquaSafe, although 
if it's safe for fish to swim in, it's probably OK to drink.


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From: anderson@Software.Mitel.COM (David Anderson)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Looking for reasonable social dance instruction
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:13:47 GMT
Distribution: ott
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

>     My fiance and myself are looking for social dance instruction
>(ie. waltz, swing, rhumba..etc). If you know of any good schools or
>individuals who provide such instruction at reasonable rates, could
>you please send me note.
>
>Thank You;
>
>-louis LECLERC
>
>leclercl@bnr.ca
>
>Louis:
>

Sorry about the last message :-) ...

I am active in the ballroom dance scene and I would recommend Claire and
Rheal Perron school of dancing. They provide group instruction through many
high schools in the region and also provide private instruction as well.

They teach both social and International style dancing. If all you want is to
learn a few dance steps in modern and latin dances for your wedding day,
then social dance is what you want.

I also help out monitoring group classes and I find that this school is very
good and friendly.

Their number is: 731-5893

Good Luck:

Regards,

/David
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From: inunn@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Hardware/Software/Book sale
Date: 18 Jul 92 11:04:40 EDT
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

I have a number of software packages for sale which are usefull either in
the versions shown or for upgrade programs.  Please phone if interested, I'll
be out of the office for two weeks and won't see my mail.

HARDWARE:
Micrcom QX12 modem - $250

SOFTWARE:
Excel 2.0 - $45
Oracle 5.1.b - $100
Enable OA - $100
Procomm Plus - $20
AMI - $20
AMI Pro 1.0 - $45

BOOKS:
Illustrated Microsoft Excel 2.1 - $10
Understanding Oracle - $15

Ian Nunn
722-6687
From: James_Mcormond@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Algonquin
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:23:00 EST

I'm wondering if there is anyone around here that has gone to Algonquin,
and can answer a simple question.  Do they have a caffeteria where a food
plan can be gotten?  I'm thinking of a one meal a day pre-paid type thing. 
I know its an option at Carleton U, and was wondering if Algonquin had
something similar.


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