HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carnes@ico.isc.com (Steve Carnes)
Subject: Re: Garth's last(?) concert: A review
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Boulder CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:08:22 GMT

	(Janet Rowell) writes:
>I'm curious...for people who haven't been lifelong country fans, were there
>particular artists who brought you to country music? 

Like several other postings mentioned, I got into bluegrass first, way
back in the '60's (the Dillards, especially).  In working my way back
towards bluegrass's roots, I discovered some common ancestors, several
of which ultimately led me down that lonesome road of country music.
The real kicker, however, was discovering Gram Parsons, the guy who
tied together rocknroll and country, and brought rock listeners to
country and country listeners to rock.  He played the Grand Old Opry
with Chris Hillman and McGuinn, and incurred the wrath of Ralph Emery
("This one's for you, Ralph") for hair and west coast attitudes -- now
look at the Opry! there's long hair and beards on practically everyone.
-- 
Steve Carnes       carnes@ico.isc.com        uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!carnes
   "Rock gives reality to the otherwise abstract notion of transhuman
    time." - Edward Abbey
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Dinoaurs
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:24:12 GMT

In article <1gaan2INNt7v@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk>, rap@nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com (Richard Porter) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.185232.27460@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
>thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>
>>Dinosaurs?  I wish there were more of them.
>
What's Waylon Jennings up to these days?  Anyone know?
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Shameless
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:20:58 GMT
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

Can anyone email me the lyrics to Garth Brook's "Shameless"?  

Please, please....thanks!

oopcv@trex.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Mary Chapin Carpenter
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:02:19 GMT

Okay, my last request was successful...does anyone have the lyrics to 
"Something of a Dreamer"?  I'm not sure of the title, but it's the one where
she "watched him from afar."

I'd really appreciate it, and I promise not to bother you anymore!

Thanks,
Cheryl oopcv@trex.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: worst country song titles
Reply-To: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:59:58 GMT

In article <stangem.6.0@columbia.dsu.edu>, stangem@columbia.dsu.edu (Michele Stange) writes:
>WORST COUNTRY SONG TITLES- PART II (don't know where Part I is)
>
>1.  If You Don't Believe I Love You Just Ask My Wife
>2.  Timber, I'm Falling in Love
>3.  You're the First time I Thought About Leaving
>4.  Love Will Beat Your Brains Out

[...]

And of course, a few more Kendall's songs :

Heaven's Just a Sin Away
Pittsburgh Stealers

And, add these :

Third-Rate Romance
Dropkick Me Jesus (Through the Goalposts of Life)
Making Small Talk, Thinking of a Rendezvous

And my favorite :

All This Time I Thought You Were Out Jogging, But You Were Just Running Around

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "Women aren't as smart as they
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     think they are; they think we
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   really do."
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Tim the Toolman
=============================================================================
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:06:52 CST
From: <KANTOLA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Singers and Stylists

In article <BzEswF.BJp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, lis450ab@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (lis450
Student) says:
>
>Have you ever noticed how Christmas music separates the singers from
>the stylists?  And not just in country music.  The singers can take a
>Christmas song and sing it so it sounds like a traditional Christmas
>song.

Actually, I think every singer IS a stylist cause every singer has different
"style" of singing, even if they try to copy someone. (Did that make sense??)
Why does a Christmas song have to be traditional?  I have an Xmas piano book
that utilizes a lot of weird chords and I love playing it.  I also have a jazz
CD that I like.  That's the thing that I love so much about music, there are
virtually unlimited interpretations.  No one interpretation is wrong no matter
how strange it may sound.  I can see your point though.  You're more familiar
with the more widely accepted style of music and can relate more to it.  But,
just remember that no matter how "rediculous" an interpretation of music may
sound, it's still music, esp. to the composer.  I'm sure country music was at
one time considered a pretty strange concept but now it's more popular than
ever.
>Some of these stylistic versions turn out really nice, but
>others sound pretty strange, if not rediculous.  My observation
>is that stylists are abundant, but singers are few and far between.
>
>Anne
>lis450ab@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

Keith (KANTOLA@VM1.NODAK.EDU)
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: worst country song titles
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:22:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: Msu.00965050.9834C7C0
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

In article <stangem.6.0@columbia.dsu.edu>, stangem@columbia.dsu.edu (Michele Stange) writes:
>49. Does My Ring Hurt You (When You Go Out at Night)

This should be "Does My Ring Hurt Your Finger."
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ditaylor@IASTATE.EDU (Diane R Taylor)
Subject: Re: Looking for "He Would Be Sixteen"
Reply-To: ditaylor@IASTATE.EDU (Diane R Taylor)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:24:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec4.130540.29640@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (r
l taylor) writes:
> Hi, all
> 
> I heard the above-mentioned song for the first time last night.  I
> didn't recognize the artist's name, which means I don't remember it :-)
> and couldn't write it down as I was driving at the time.   So...Can
> anybody fill me in on who sings this one, and maybe the name of the
> album it's from?  There's someone I would really like to get it for,
> if I can just find it.  (For anyone who doesn't recognize the title,
> it's about a woman who gave her son up for adoption 16 years ago, and
> is wondering where he is and what he's like...Quite a tear-jerker.)
> 
> Email or post, I'll be grateful for either!
> 
> Roberta Taylor
> AT&T Bell Laboratories
> Whippany, NJ
> rlt@gummo.att.com


Wow, my first response to a letter! You're right, it's a real tear-jearker and
the singer is Michelle Wright (I'm not sure about the spelling or the album
title, though) It's been getting a lot of well deserved air-play here in Central
Iowa.

Talk to you later,
Diane Taylor
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: worst country song titles
Date: 13 Dec 1992 12:42:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Worst is subjective......
-- 
Ted....
From: pbertsch@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Peggy Bertsch)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:52:23 GMT
Subject: Re: the saddle rack...going down
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western

Shoulda figured if the announcement was on a radio station, there'd be a 
catch...

Guess they'll all be two-steppin' out at the Rack until the year 2006, as 
reported by KNTV news this morning (is that what they announced on KRTY?)

Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ditaylor@IASTATE.EDU (Diane R Taylor)
Subject: Hello from Iowa! 
Reply-To: ditaylor@IASTATE.EDU (Diane R Taylor)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:42:17 GMT

Hello, country music fans!

This is really exciting for me, finding this network. Here in Iowa, country
still gets a lot of strange looks, espically if you're too close to Des Moines.
But I digress. Let me share a little bit about myself.

My name is Diane Taylor and I'm a student at Iowa State in Ames. This spring, I
will once again be the Arts and Entertainment editor at the Iowa State Daily,
the student paper. For the past year, I have been writing a weekly country
review column "This Country's Rockin'" (Yes, I stole the idea, but I'm open to
better suggestions, it was a spur of the moment thing).

My tastes in country pretty much run the spectrum. Classics to newer stuff and I
enjoy a good bluegrass or cajun number if one comes my way, too. My favorite
artist is Ricky Van Shelton and I have a reputation for ripping on Garth Brooks
in my column whenever the opportunity comes up.

I'll throw out a few opinions for you all to contemplate and then I'll sign
off.

***I think country let a really good thing go when k.d. lang decided she had had
enough. I saw her in concert last month and she was teriffic, and still sounds a
lot country despite her crossover.

***After watching that country '92 whatever last night, I might start to think
Billy Ray can sing, and is not just the Vanilla Ice of country.

***Does anybody really care where Garth and Sandy conceived their child?

***With Wynonna popping up on pop stations, is country heading for another Urban
Cowboy phase or will it be split into two factions, mainstream and
neo-traditional (Alan Jackson, Mark Chestnut).

Well, I'm really looking forward to being a part of the network and getting to
talk some country with all of you!

Talk to you later,

Diane Taylor
From: crj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Rex Allen,Jr. fans
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:16:46 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Are there any Rex Allen, Jr. fans that read this group?
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ellis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (June Ellis)
Subject: Re: who sings this
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:31:39 GMT

>who sung the tennesse waltz, was it eddy arnold?

Pee Wee King and Redd Stewart wrote it, and I am pretty sure the original was 
done by Pee Wee's band.  I am not sure who the vocalist was, but it seems like 
it was Redd Stewart.  I suppose it could have been Eddy Arnold since he 
started with Pee Wee King.

Lots of people have recorded it since, the most famous by Patti Page in the 
1950s.
From: jerryg@jaiser.rain.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:27:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: jaiser.746qVB2w165w
Organization: Jerry's Attic - Gaston, OR

boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) writes:

> 
> *****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****
> 
> Question:
> Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
> Sinead O'Connor?
> 

Sinead??? Who's that .... ;-)

Just curious why the question on a country group..

--
Jerry Gaiser                                      1-503-359-4017 (voice)
Usenet:  jerryg@jaiser.rain.com                   1-503-359-5111 (data) 
Fidonet: 1:105/380          
PBBS:    n7pwf@n7pwf.or.usa.na                    ..I read banned books..
From: n8643084@henson.cc.wwu.edu (owings matthew)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Best of Country '92
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:55:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Dec12.235554.16410
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Washington University

Organi
zation: Western Washington University

     Pam Tillis was awesome.  I thought Billy Ray did a fine job on a good ol'
Nashville sound type song.

Marty O.
87' 250 ninja
85 Dodge Charger Shelby
 
"It's a freedom that we all wanna know
and it's an obsession to some
 to keep the world in your rearview mirror
while you try to run down the sun"

"Wheels" by Rhestles Heart.
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina)
Subject: Country influences
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:14:15 GMT

>I'm curious...for people who haven't been lifelong country fans, were there
>particular artists who brought you to country music? 
>
>-- Jan (still addicted to Emmylou) 
>strictly 
>
Flying Burrito Bros., Byrds, Gram Parsons, Emmy Lou, Poco, Eagles
Linda Ronstadt, Country Gazette, Michael Nesmith, Jerry Jeff

Dave L
From: un021274@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Singers and Stylists
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:47:18 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


	You are absolutely CORRECT, if you look on down I posted this answer
instead of replying directly to you're post. I'am new at this deal so it 
will take a little time to get used to. Singers and Stylists are very
DIFFERENT as you pointed out. I'am glad somsone else like you took the time
to explain. IMHO, most stylists (KILL) these Christmas songs trying to make
them sound , as you put it, like " there style" nuffsaid...In article <BzEswF.BJp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, lis450ab@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (lis450 Student) writes:
> Have you ever noticed how Christmas music separates the singers from
> the stylists?  And not just in country music.  The singers can take a
> Christmas song and sing it so it sounds like a traditional Christmas
> song.  Stylists take Christmas songs and sing them in their style, no
> matter what.  Some of these stylistic versions turn out really nice, but
> others sound pretty strange, if not rediculous.  My observation
> is that stylists are abundant, but singers are few and far between.
> 
> Anne
> lis450ab@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
From: rwanner@bcarh415.bnr.ca (Rick Wanner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: C&W beginnings
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:21:06 GMT
Reply-To: rwanner@bnr.ca
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

>
>>I'm curious...for people who haven't been lifelong country fans, were there
>>particular artists who brought you to country music? 
>

For me it was Lester Flat and Earl Scruggs, Waylon Jennings, Jerry Jeff,
The Oak Ridge Boys, The Gatlin Bros, and my dad (he played guitar at parties).

Since then I have discovered I just like good music, so I listen to a little of
anything.  There just seems to be more good music in country music.  Now with
the new wave of country singers (Allan Jackson, Garth Brooks, Mary Chapin Carpenter),
stretching beyond what is traditional country music, I am in heaven.
Richard Wanner    rwanner@BNR.CA     
(613)763-4159     BNR is not responsible for any opinions I have.
   "To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." - Woody Allen
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western,rec.music.cd
From: jeff@godzilla.quotron.com (Jeff Marder)
Subject: Wanda Jackson Boxed Set Now Available From Bear Family
Organization: Quotron Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:18:16 GMT

just found out that Bear Family released a 4-CD boxed set called
"Right Or Wrong(1954-1962)".  Contains her earliest Decca sides as
well as her Capitol sides up to 1962.  If the Rhino CD is frustrating
because of all the omissions, this is the one to get!!!!!

Available domestically from Sunshine Music,
    1-407-286-5549
-- 
===========================================================
jeff@godzilla.quotron.com
Quotron Systems   310-302-4316
From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Garth's last(?) concert: A review
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:46:46 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Adams Software, Lake Oswego OR  USA

In article <1glh9lINNn2g@crcnis1.unl.edu>, jvirts@unlinfo.unl.edu (jacquelyn virts) writes:
|> jrowell@ssd.intel.com (Janet Rowell) writes:
|> 
|> >Box writes: 
|> >>
|> >>  Now if I could just get people to be as fanatical about Randy Travis!
|> >>He's the whole reason I love country like I do!  :-{)
|> 
|> >Yay, Randy! He's one of the people who brought me to country. I grew up
|> >hating my father's Ernest Tubb era of country music...discovered Emmylou Harris
|> >in the 70s and for over a decade she was the only remotely country
|> >person I liked. Then I read an interesting article about Randy and sought
|> >out his music. From there I went on to Lyle Lovett and George Jones, and
|> >then became a total CW fan. I even appreciate Ernest now...and I know my dad
|> >would roll over in his grave in amusement if he knew I'd just invested in
|> >the complete Hank Sr. 
|> 
Janet Rowell writes:
|> >I'm curious...for people who haven't been lifelong country fans, were there
|> >particular artists who brought you to country music? 
|> 
|> >-- Jan (still addicted to Emmylou) 
|> >strictly 

and then Jacquelyn Virts writes:

|> I have even "converted" my 
|> husband (but then he never did like my rock).  Suppose I'm just lucky 
|> I don't have kids to compete with my listening time.  The dog and 
|> cat never complain--they even like my piano playing! :)
|> 

I started listening EXCLUSIVELY to country music on May-12-84 (I attended an
Alabama 18-Wheels Concert on May-11-84).  My husband said he would never
listen to country western.  Well, guess what.  He now listens to it about
90% of the time.  As for our 7-yr daughter, she grew up listening to nothing
but country western and now she sings along with Reba, Alabama, Marty, Travis,
Randy, RSV, etc. etc. etc.  In fact, her first favorite song was Kentucky
Headhunters "Dumas Walker".   

Our two dogs and one cat don't mind the music either.  As for my horse, I sing
Reba's songs to her all the time.  After all, my horse's name is Reba, named
after Reba McEntire!

***************************************************
	Linda Harbin       Hillsboro, Oregon 
	503-696-2261       linda@littlei.intel.com
***************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: who hooked you on CM?
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:08:00 GMT

What singer, group, or time brought you to country music? There was sort of 
a thread of this here before somewhere.   I remember hating country music 
when I was young. Didn't like the twang but then I started to like Glen 
Campbell along about the time of Gentle on My Mind and By the Time I get to 
Phoenix. Then I went to live with my sister and her family and that's all 
they played... so I started to like the Statler Brothers, then Janie 
Fricke, then Kenny Rogers and little by little started down that road.  And 
speaking of twang, now I can't get enough. I just bought Hank Williams, 
Sr.'s boxed set....

skip
rlwilliams@gallua.bitnet

Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: WYEP Radio Pittsburgh
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:48:29 CST

[ Article crossposted from rec.music.folk ]
[ Author was Tom Huot ]
[ Posted on 15 Dec 92 15:15:38 CST ]

This is just to inform anyone who enjoys folk or singer/songwriter
music that if you are in the Pittsburgh area, tune in to WYEP
at 91.3 FM. You will not be disappointed. No commercials either!

--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot        			       
huot@cray.com 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot        			       
huot@cray.com 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black)
Subject: How I got hooked on CW
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:43:40 GMT

Hello! Just thought I would share my own personal anecdote of how I got
hooked on CW. 

As a child, my folks brought me up on 8-track tapes in the car of CW. I
mean, we had some good old stuff. Statlers, Lynn Anderson. Marty Robbins,
Donna Fargo, Charlie Pride, you name 'em. I really enjoyed the Statlers
(Bed of Roses, Countin'Flowers, Go To My Grave..) because they are such
great singers and I loved to sing along with them at he top of my 5 year
old voice!

So anyway, as I went through adolescence, I grew away from CW. I started
listening to whatever was in the Top 40 (I think I may even have some Duran
Duran tapes somewhere!) and cracking on CW as being for hicks as many
teenagers used to do in the early 80's! In high school I became so cool that
I would listen to "only the finest classic rock (tm)"

That's pretty much what I listened to in college. So anyway, senior year
the boom dropped and I went through the breakup of a 5 year relationship
and an engagment. As corny as it sounds, that's when I came back to CW. There
is no more lyrical form of music around. All of the songs tell a story or
speak to what you are going through. So through the breakup I'd listen to
CW and somehow get by.

Now I'm hooked once again! Although I do still listen to rock and pop (and
even some classical) country music is my home!

Rob Black                     black@concert.net                Raleigh, NC
From: jvirts@unlinfo.unl.edu (jacquelyn virts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Garth's last(?) concert: A review
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:04:53 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu

jrowell@ssd.intel.com (Janet Rowell) writes:

>Box writes: 
>>
>>  Now if I could just get people to be as fanatical about Randy Travis!
>>He's the whole reason I love country like I do!  :-{)

>Yay, Randy! He's one of the people who brought me to country. I grew up
>hating my father's Ernest Tubb era of country music...discovered Emmylou Harris
>in the 70s and for over a decade she was the only remotely country
>person I liked. Then I read an interesting article about Randy and sought
>out his music. From there I went on to Lyle Lovett and George Jones, and
>then became a total CW fan. I even appreciate Ernest now...and I know my dad
>would roll over in his grave in amusement if he knew I'd just invested in
>the complete Hank Sr. 

>I'm curious...for people who haven't been lifelong country fans, were there
>particular artists who brought you to country music? 

>-- Jan (still addicted to Emmylou) 
>strictly 

Garth Brooks (Shameless and seeing him sing it on TV) aroused my 
interest in country.  Since then I've been buying country tapes 
strictly (even Christmas).  I like Trisha Yearwood, Randy Travis, Suzy
Boggus, Alan Jackson, Clint Black, Reba M., Travis Tritt, Hal Ketchum,
to name my most favorites.  Two years ago I would have never thought 
I'd _ever_ like country.  I don't know if it's because it has changed 
and gotten more to my liking, if I'm just getting old (38) or a 
combination.  Anyway, I enjoy listening to it, enjoy the videos, and 
can usually understand the words! :)  I have even "converted" my 
husband (but then he never did like my rock).  Suppose I'm just lucky 
I don't have kids to compete with my listening time.  The dog and 
cat never complain--they even like my piano playing! :)

Jacque
Organization: Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA