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From: Marty.Garcia@f876.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Marty Garcia)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: EMS/Fire/News etc.
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:19:09 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:141/876 - Marty's BBS System, New Haven CT

***THIS IS NOT AN AD***

I have just started getting a special service in my area via
Metromedia paging. It is a fire/ems/news network via alphanumerical pagers.
The pagers will receive all calls reported to the network
and they will display the types of incidents they are and
their details (with updates). It can also be used as a
regular alphanumerical pager as well as a numerical pager.

Other options are available such as human dispatch, and voice mail.

I think the service is great, and recommend it to anyone who is away from 
their scanner, but want to know what is happening in New England. I don't want 
to clutter the message base with this info, but if anyone wants more 
information, leave email here for me, and I will call you voice, or whatever..
 

This is done as a non-profit organization through Hartford Citywide 
Notification Network.

Thanks,

Marty


 

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:38:42 EDT
From:         "Joey J. Stanford, Graphics Research Group" <GRJS@VM.MARIST.EDU>
Subject:      shorthand query

Query:

  C overbar=with
  S overbar=with out

  in EMT shorthand (on PCR's)...

But what are they short for?

  Anyone know?

 jj
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:43:35 EDT
From:         Marist EMS <HZA1@VM.MARIST.EDU>
Subject:      Listowner in training...
X-To:         "EMERG-L/Misc.Emerg-Services" <EMERG-L@MARIST.BITNET>,
              Marist EMS <HZA1@MARIST.BITNET>

EMERG-L@MARIST info:

FYI,

 I'm leaving sometime this summer, therefore I won't be able to monitor
this list. Helena Taylor (current president of Marist EMS) is training on
this system and will become the new contact person in the future.
Just to let you know.

Joe Stanford
EMERG-L coordinator
From: jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: LIGHTS
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:21:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.192131.4372
Reply-To: jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, kenl@PRO-BERKS.CTS.COM (Ken Lager) says:

>white lights must do some good!!  We(Marshall Fire Dept) use high power
>white strobes to set off two traffic lights in our area, even on the
>sunniest days.  I would consider that bright enough!!

This is an Opticon (maybe Opticom) system.  You have a little silver
box with a round strobe and reflector somewhere on top of the unit,
right?  There's a detector on the traffic light cables which detects
the flash pattern from this unit to trip the traffic light...  it
doesn't really have much to do with the brightness.  The strobe is
so much brighter than everything else around it that the detector
can lock on to it even in sunlight.  People's eyes don't work quite
the same way; I have yet to see a REALLY effective set of lights under
full, bright sun -- you get sunlight reflecting off your reflectors
that's brighter than your bulbs...


>BTW- Does anyone think if we got an address for someone in DC and had
>everyone in our respective departments send one letter, we may, as a group,
>get something done?!?!?

It's not a bad idea -- the only problem is, there's no one to send it
to.  There is a Federal KKK standard for ambulances, but that's only
mandatory for ambulances the Federal government buys for its own use.
I don't really want to get into politics here, but there isn't a lot
of support for EMS at the Federal level.  I have contacts at the
Federal Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National
Institute of Standards and Technology in automotive safety and lighting
research, but there's no one in the federal government doing work on
the combination.  I can steer you to people doing crashworthiness tests,
or visibility of lights in New York Harbor tests...
 
-- 
 -- jacob 

           Jacob DeGlopper, EMT-A, Wheaton Volunteer Rescue Squad
            -- CWRU Biomedical Engineering - jrd5@po.cwru.edu -- 
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:55:00 EDT
From:         GU091MAH@ITHACA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: 911 t's

911 T-shirts?????
Does someone know a way to get these?????
Is there a charge and if so, how much????
I'm interested in obtaining one, so if anyone knows somethings, let me know!
Thanks!

----------------
Marc Hodosh
NJ & NY EMT
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From: Richard.Arwood@p0.f55.n123.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Arwood)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Just saying hello
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:39:24 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:123/55.0 - The Melmack BBS! No, Memphis TN

I am a Division Chief in Memphis Tennessee and just wanted to say hello.  We 
just received this echo last night and I look forward to speaking with other 
fire/ems folks about fire service issues.
 
It is great to be a part of such a group of dedicated men and women.
 
..................SMOKE KILLS, SO GOD INVENTED SCBA................
 



 

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From: sprb_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Michael Sperber)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: EMT basic challenge tests
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:15:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Apr16.141244.14815@philabs.philips.com> jpp@philabs.philips.com (Joseph Page) writes:
>
>I personally have a few problems with this test:
>
>2- a lot of the questions delt with terms and parts of the anatomy that an EMT
>would never use or knowing the difference would not change the treatment
>***I always ask a very simple question... what difference would that make in
>MY treatment of the pt.?***

It probably would not make a difference, however it is good to know these terms
for a number of reasons.  First, EMTs and all are part of "The Medical World".
The only real difference between pre-hospital care worker and a hospital care 
worker is the 'pre', the fact that the EMT is in the field.  As an EMT, being
part of the process of the medical field, certain things are required of the 
EMT, one of these being a simple working knoweldge of anatomy and physiology.
This little fact is part of what separates todays pre-hospital emergency care
with the 'Load&Go" style of yester-year.  I believe that today the EMT
represents medicine much better than anyone has in the past - they try to get 
the best and most results with limited time and equipment.  EMTs still dont 
have respect from many MDs,aside from those directly involved with EMS, and 
the only way to get the respect deserved to us is to make us look good and 
knowlegable in our field.  One way to do this is by showing that we are a vital
part to emergency medicine, and to do this we should know what we are talking   about.

>
>Capt Joe Page EMT-D (maybe not for long)
>Vista Fire Department

Mike Sperber
New York Certified First Responder

Univ of Rochester MERT
Brighton (NY) Volunteer Ambulance
From: amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (anmar mirza)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Mistake
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:55:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr6.165531.5382
Organization: Indiana University

In article <01GIEZ7HNX9UAC3YC8@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> Long Gone <JMA5766@RITVAX.BITNET> writes:
>yes, I want to say that I made a mistake saying that white lights dont
>work in the daytime.
>After I thought about it really does work very well. I totally
>agree with Jim Roche and John Ternay statement about lights. Strobes indeed do
>very well during the day and at night it is also too bright at night.
>
>

If my memory from the distant Emergency Vehicles Operation Class
serves me right, Greyhound did a study and it was found that vehicles
operating with their headlights on during the day were X% less likely
to be involved in an MVA that was the other guys fault.  The
headlights make your vehicle stand out better against the background. 

-- 
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From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: LIGHTS
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:04:44 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Apr6.192131.4372@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper) writes:
>
>the same way; I have yet to see a REALLY effective set of lights under
>full, bright sun -- you get sunlight reflecting off your reflectors
>that's brighter than your bulbs...

	I'm not sure what type they are, but the blue strobes on the New
Hampshire State Police cruisers seem to be very clearly visible even in the
brightest sunlight. 
--
	Thomas Guptill
	University of Rochester
	tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mail server)
	
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From:         Firemen -- Dressed for Sucess!!! <MICHAEL@UNTVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: POSSIBLE NEWSLETTER

>There is so much good information that comes over the network, I am
>thinking about putting it into a news letter for my station.  I do not want
>to cause any "protocol" problems with this listing or with the readers.









Nice idea -- I'll have to remember that!

>QUESTION:  Is there any problem from the listing or the readers if I
>make a newsletter using information obtained from the listing.  Of course,
>I would give proper credit to the listing for any info I use from it.









Can't forsee any -- as long as you attribute the source!

>Thank you for your comments and ideas.









You're welcome, ma'am!

>Mary Ann
>
>MAWELLS@GALLUJ.BITNET
>
>We volunteer because your life depends on it.









We get paid because we knew where to look!   (pttth   :)---> )  Just Kidding!!!
Thank God for Volunteers!

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:48:09 -0400
From:         KEN <KAK6279@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Code III

        Yeah, and that back stabilization on the OD was probably superior to
any I have ever seen. (NOT!)  You don't think there was any chance for a spinal
injury after he jumped off a building, do you?  6 or 7 stories, but not 5.

        Gee.  I wonder if my home corps. does member requests to Honolulu.  It
certainly would take longer, but hey...good things come to those who wait.
(Like the ability to move your legs!)  I just hope it was that crew only
who makes that mistake.

        Good show, though.  I just wish it was narrarated a bit less too.  We
didn't need to be told that he'd jumped off the building.  Also, what's this
where "a slow elevator can mean the difference between life and death"?  10
seconds dosen't help much when it takes 7 or 8 to get there in the first place.
The footage, however, was excellent.  I think the cameramen did an excellent
job getting the footage.

                                                        FireMAN


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     Kenneth A. Kirchoff       --     Henrietta Fire District
     CPU 1293                          Larchmont Mamaroneck Volunteer Amb.
     25 Andrews Memorial Drive          RIT Ambulance
     KAK6279@ISC.RIT.EDU                 Town of Mamaroneck Vol. Fire Dept.

        "Time is an invaluable commodity, which I am unwilling to waste,
          but I sell it to RIT for $4.51 an hour!" (Damn college jobs!)
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:15:27 EDT
From:         "Joey J. Stanford, Graphics Research Group" <GRJS@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      911 t's

Gang, I lost the tel num for A&S Merchandising to pick up the 911
tshirts... if anyone has it handy, please mail me direct.  A 9 year old
I know wants one for her birthday. Thanks. =)
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:41:01 -0400
From:         KEN <KAK6279@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      MSA Airpacks.

        Has anyone on the net experienced or heard of problems with the MSA
Ultralite II airpacks?  Or fire department (which has recently purchased 73 of
them) has been having problems, and I would like to find out if there have been
any other malfunctions elswhere.
        One problem that we have experienced has been when the packs reach the
low level pressure the bells fail to go off.  This has happened about five
times, and a few were during live burns.  This means that the pack is suddenly
out of air with little or no warning.  Also, sometimes the bells go off for a
reduced amount of time.  For example, I got about 1 or 2 minuites from the time
the bell wen4t off to the time I ran out of air.  Some people have gotten as
little as 45 seconds.
        The second problem happened last night with my pack.  Using Roscoe
smoke, I was inside of our smoke tower practicing standpipe use.  On my second
bottle, I was walking with the nozzle through the building.  My regulator read
"10".  I proceded up the steps and suddenly, my pack sucked to my face and no
air came out.  After I determined that my pack had malfunctioned, I stuck my
finger in the side to get air (stupid, stupid, stupid... should've tried the
bypass) and proceded calmly to a balcony.  I checked, and my regulator read
zero and my hose was not tangled.  My air bottle was fully on, as was my
regulator, and still no air rushed out. ;When I turned it on and then off
again, it worked perfectly.
        This is dangerous stuff.  If anyone has any suggestions, please tell
me.  If you can back it up, it would be 1000% better.  Thanks.

                                                FireMAN


        Just my $.002 worth!

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From: Glen.Strecker@f2.n390.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Strecker)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: arson
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:48:03 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:390/2 - The Fire Scene, Slidell LA


 DR>     What are some of the books you would reccomend to a  
 DR> first time reader interested in arson investigation?  Our  
 DR> department (volunteer) is considering having a person take  
 DR> some classes beyond the basic firefighter certification for  
 DR> inter-agency cooperation in possible arson cases. 
 
David, 
        A good basic fire investigation book is FIRE INVESTIGATION by 
        Kirk, the IFSTA manual FIRE CAUSE DETERMINATION and INTRODUCTION 
        TO FIRE PROTECTION LAW, by D.L. Rosenbauer.  Also check and see 
        if there is anyone in your area with the International 
        Association of Arson Investigators.  The various Chapters of the 
        IAAI offer annual seminars and other training in arson 
        detection, juvenile firesetters, fire cause and origin and other 
        topics related to this field. 
 
                                                Glen 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.35 * Member La. Chapter, I.A.A.I. 


 

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Subject:      Re: Public Service Freq.s Wanted for Charlotte, NC

Me Too!!  Does anyone know some interesting or exciting fr. in the
Ithaca, NY area??  Just though I'd ask!

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ER TECH.
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:15:08 EDT
From:         Gary Kendall <KENDALLG@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CODE3
              12 Apr 1992 04:50:09 GMT from <rdale@MENTOR.CC.PURDUE.EDU>

I thought the content was quite similar to "On Scene" - nice to see the real
thing as opposed to reenactments.  But I, too, could do without so much
narration, which bordered on soap-opera dialog at times.

Granted, this was the premiere show, but if I had to choose between "Code 3"
and "On Scene", Dave Forman would win my vote right now.

Just my $.02 worth...

--Gary Kendall  NREMT-P  (kendallg@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu)
From: au342@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Rolfes)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: new light policy in NY.
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:43:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr8.234341.3809
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


The Director of Highway Safety in the State of Ohio has made several
public service announcements about civilians "Going right for Sirens
and Lights."


Does NY have any PS announcements?

Michael P. Rolfes  OVR Unit #43, usr2879a@tso.uc.edu
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From:         Steve Buck <sbuck@EDDIE.EE.VT.EDU>
Subject:      alphanumeric pagers
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Marty,
   I'd like to know more about that paging service.  I'd heard talk
about that system coming here to Fairfax County, but haven't seen
anything yet.   Please e-mail with any info you have on it...Thanks.
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From:         Ken Lager
              <scubed!pro-berks.cts.com!kenl%harvard.UUCP@CS.YALE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LIGHTS
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Thanks for the information.  I am only a rookie at this Fire stuff(I have
been unning altogether for 2 years with 3 different co.'s) so I only can
report my thoughts.
        It is too bad that we can not get a standard in lights.  If only
everyone would pull over for everything....

                                Thanx again,
                                        Ken Lager

ProLine:  kenl@pro-berks
Internet: kenl@pro-berks.cts.com
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From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: LIGHTS
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <01GILP6315TC8Y51VP@ITHACA.BITNET> GU091MAH@ITHACA.BITNET writes:
>Attention to Ian Gardner:
>I understand many of your concerns, and I agree with most of them. On the
>otherhand, in NJ, blue lights are not considered courtesy lights, the law
>states that drivers must pull over if they are in front of a vehicle flashing

	This brings up a problem:  different standard in different states. 
I could be a little off on some of these, but as far as I know this is how
it works in New Hampshire:

	Yellow lights:  Construction vehicles, private security, 
	                maintainence, plows, etc. 

	Red lights:  Fire, Rescue, Volunteer, and other emergency vehicles.

	Blue lights:  Police vehicles ONLY.

	Green lights:  Nobody that I've seen

	It seems that there should be some sort of national standard for
lighting -- I've seen people responding to fires in pickup trucks with
yellow (amber) lights, and our campus security (for whom you have to pull
over on University property) have amber light bars.  How many people do you know of that will pull over
for a snow plow or construction vehicle?  (Or a car with it's 4-way flashers
on, which is what many of our local RS volunteers use.)

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