HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Document that! (was Re: Violent antisemitism?)
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:28:29 GMT
Organization: liver ---> spleen

In article <1992Sep12.000049.17861@newstand.syr.edu>
podgorny@npac.syr.edu (Marek Podgorny) writes:

>Stan, is somebody denying existence of anti-Semitism in Poland? There
>are people there that hate Germans, other resent Catholic Church, some hate
>peanuts butter, and then some dislike Jews.

And those that put these hatreds at the same level trivialize human life.

>                                            My subjective estimate is
>that at present, anti-Semitism is more a political than a sociological
>phenomenon in Poland. However, this is NOT the subject of the discussion
>here. The subject is: are the Poles guilty of Holocuast; if yes - to what
>degree; if no - why not? 

Not quite.  The subject includes Polish revisionism as well as
antisemitism before and after World War II.

>We were presented with nice examples of
>relativity: Poles, living under the regimee that shoot on place anybody
>trying to help Jews, saved despite of this pretty bad working conditions
>saved some 50,000 Jews (see Lucy S. Dawidowicz, The War against the Jews,
>NY 1975, chapter 7), are considered to have done nothing for Jewish nation.

Whoa!  No one minimized the good that Poles did.  Quite the opposite:
these people are held as shining (and unfortunately rare) examples.

>American Jews, who failed to organize any serious political lobbying
>in US to stop Holocaust, and this despite of the considerable political
>and financial power, are considered to have done anything possible.

Ahhhh.  Thos rich, powerful Jews.
-- 
Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Jack Tuszynski w Polsce (czyli lustracja polskiej nauki)
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep07.195034.166141@ua1ix.ua.edu> lnieplo3@ua1ix.ua.edu (Jaroslaw Nieplocha) writes:
>
>> A jesli chodzi o Uniwersytet Slaski, no to Maciek Uhlig mnie
>> wytlumaczyl.  Ze mlodych ludzi przewaznie nie ciagnie praca w Uniwersytetcie.
>> Jak moga to wyjezdzaja na zachod.  Ci ktorzy zostaja to z przyzwyczajenia.
>> Przewaznie to sa profesorzy ktorzy juz latami tam pracowali i uczyli.
>> To sa starsi ludzi, po 40.  Boja sie sieci ze wzgledu na to ze ich nauka
>> moze byc lustrowana.  To znaczy ze moze sie stac tak ze wykombinuja ze
>> to co oni robia to ktos robi na zachodzie, moze i nawet lepiej, albo
>> juz bylo robione na zachodzie.  Takze sie bali ze nie beda mogli wyjechac
>> na zachod na wycieczki naukowe jesli sie pokaze ze moga sie rownie dobrze
>> polaczyc do sieci i wykonac dana prace.  Chyba zaplacone wycieczki na
>
>Czlowieku skad zes ty sie urwal ?       Sugerujesz ze w Polsce pracownicy
>naukowi nie czytaja literatury swiatowej ze swojej dziedziny.
>Sieci to niby sie boja bo im mur chinski sie zawali i zobacza ze ziemia
>jest okragla!
>Moze to dla Ciebie niespodzianka, ale oni takze publikuja zagranica. 
>
>Poza tym, coz za infantylizm ocen. A moze to literatura Science Fiction ?
>
>
>Jarek Nieplocha

Chyba sie niepotrzebnie, Jarku, unosisz. Czyzbys sugerowal, ze wszyscy
profesorowie na wszystkich polskich uczelniach publikuja za granica?
A moze to Ty czytasz za duzo science fiction?

Marek Osinski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: Polish complicity - Jewish complicity
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:38:34 CDT


In article <88671@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.123804.6844@walter.cray.com> aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur) writes:
>[...]
>>something different what still seems to be correct. What I wanted
>>to say was (and did not do that clearly) that it was strange for me
>>that after apparent breaking the law in Poland Rabbi Weiss was not 
>>sued in the Polish court what seemed for me quite appropriate.
>>[...]
>>A. Mazur
>
>I was in Poland at that time, and I don't remember anyone accusing
>rabbi Weiss of braking the law. What kind of criminal activity was
>he involved in?
>
>--
>
>Krzysztof Kniaz, University of Pennsylvania |Due to circumstances beyond
>Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter |your control, you're master of 
>Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                |your fate and captain of your soul

I also was in Poland then. If you do not believe that it is law violation,
try to do similiar thing in the US. And to be more credible, I would
suggest to invite one of Ayatollahs, and do it together, just for fun.
There are a lot of churches to be moved around. And the real issue
is not in details (like whether Rabbi Weiss went once or twice
to the court), but whether he did that because it would make him feel
right, or he did that because he felt his religion commanded him
to be intolerant. Any clues on that ?

A. Mazur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Polish complicity - Jewish complicity
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:58:24 GMT

aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur) writes:
#
#dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
#
##
##Perhaps violently pro-Jewish? Do you feel Weiss can be compared with
##Glemp? Does he hate Poles?
#
#RWhat about violently intolerant ? Of course Weiss cannot be compared
#with Glemp - there is no even shred of evidence that Glemp is
#intolerant. 

I believe your opinion is not shared by other Polish readers of
this newsgroup.

#Before an attack of Rabbi Weiss followers on convent
           ^^^^^^

Attack? 


##atrocities were committed by some Poles against Jews before,
##during and after WW2. Of course they did not even come close to
##Nazi atrocities, and were not worse than in other east-European
##countries. Hell, if David Duke would (God forbid) become president
##of this country, we will probably see the same amount of atrocities
##happen right here.
##
#
#Well, so lets face it also that atrocities were committed by some
#people of Jewish descent after WWII in Poland. They do not come
#close to Nazi atrocities but there are examples of similiar
#cruelty.

Its all a question of numbers, I guess. Anyway I am getting sick and
tired of this futile debate, and suggest to everybody invloved to
drop it. I probably will not respond to any more posters, and hope
the whole topic will die away.

-Danny Keren.
From: lbs@madeira.phys.ufl.edu (Lech Borkowski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Jack zada glowy naczelnika Polskiej Poczty (was: Poczta Polska)
Keywords: bulba
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:53:18 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Physics Department - CMT Group

In article <1992Sep5.072408.8487@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> jjt@aristotle.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jack Tuszynski) writes:

>Znak na dworcu pisze bagaz za 2500 zl bedzie chowany.  Ale jest kwestja
>ubezpieczenia.  Na ile oszacowac ubezpieczenie na walizki?  Od rumunow 
>czy to ruskow przed nami nic nie wzial bagazowy.  Bo wogule nie bieze
>bagaz od romonow lub ruskow.  Nas, turystow, oszacowal na 60,000 zl.
>Styl nas byli Polacy.  Ich oszacowal na mniej.  Wszystko gotowka, wszystko

 Trzeba bylo zazadac kwitu od czlowieka. Jak potem odbierales bagaz.
"To byla taka czerwona walizka w biale kropki z dziura na boku"? :-)

>bez kwitow bylo zalatwione.  Ten czlowiek pracowal dla siebie, wewnatz
>PKP.  Policjanci tak samo.   Dawaja mandaty, i biora gotowke.  Sadze ze
>Poczta polska na tych samych zasadach dziala.   Ta cala wewnetzna

 Sadzisz, ale nie masz dowodow. Lepiej byloby sadzic na podstawie
dowodow. Od siebie dodam, ze wysylajac z Niemiec pakiety z artykulami
naukowymi do Polski mialem klopoty, bo dochodzily do Polski
w oplakanym stanie. Poczta niemiecka rwala koperty i patrzyla
co jest w srodku. Na wiekszych kopertach niemieckich jest napis, ze poczta
zaglada do srodka i zeby nie zaklejac hermetycznie kopert. Klopot
w tym, ze nie moglem zadnych innych kopert jak tylko do hermetycznego
zaklejania. Np. nie moglem znalezc w Niemczech kopert takich jakie
sa standardowe w Stanach: z haczykami i dziurka i wtedy koperty
nie trzeba zaklejac.

>prywatyzacja dziala, na zasadzie ze nikt nie nazeka.  To znaczy, mysmy
>chcieli bagaze chowane w Warszawie, on wzial pieniadze od nas, i jego
>naczelny w PKP napewno dostaje procent.   System dziala.  Nie ma harcerzy
>ktorzy by sie upomnieli ze znak pisze 2500zl.  W ten sposob system dziala.

>Z paczka wyslana ubezpieczona moglo sie wiele stac.  Ale jesli czlowiek
>dziala w kompletnym bezprawiu, to trzeba tez innaczej wysylac paczki.
>Kogo to jest wina ze paczka byla zgubiona w PP?  Poczty?  Czy nadawcy?

 Zginela twoja paczka? Nie wiem czy piszesz o konkretnym przypadku,
czy wymyslonym.

>Mozna bylo ta sama paczke wyslac z Polski teraz juz przez DHL.  Czemu
>nie?  Zeby zaoszczedzic pieniadze.  No to zaoszczedziles pieniadze.
>Trudno winic Polska poczte.   Polska poczta jest tym czym jest.  Nikt
>nie mowil ze to jest zachodnia poczta.  Jest poprostu tym czym jest.

 Jezeli zginela paczka miedzynarodowa, to najpierw musisz 
udowodnic, ze jest to wina polskiej poczty, a nie amerykanskiej.
Wcale nie jest dla mnie oczywiste, ze to polska poczta jest winna.

 Moj wlasny przyklad: Trzy lata temu moj znajomy wyslal mi 
400 $ w zwyklym liscie z Holandii do USA. Listu nigdy 
nie otrzymalem. Zglosil zazalenie na poczcie, ale oczywiscie
nic nie znalezli. Oczywiscie powinien byl wyslac te pieniadze
przekazem lub w inny, rejestrowany sposob. Ale tak czy owak,
pieniadze diabli wzieli. Przepraszam, nie diabli, ale Holendrzy
albo Amerykanie.
 
 Bulba,

 Lech Borkowski
From: napoli@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Polish People needed.
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:33:44 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA



Hello  

My name is Gaetano Napolitano and besides working here in California
with Olivetti, I have with some friends a products distributor line and
would like to extent the business in Poland, (we have already partners
in some European Country) and we are in need of 
names, address and phone numers (were possible) of people in Poland that may 
be interested in to start a small business on spare time. 

please reply directly to me at the above address .


Thank you 


Gaetano Napolitano  


e-mail address

napoli@atc.olivetti.com











Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: s1137020@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mariusz Prokopczyk)
Subject: Re: Sprawy gospodarcze - prywatny i panstwowy
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:50:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.182407.3675@funet.fi> bart@cs.tut.fi writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.164530.27069@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>, azaleski@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrzej Zaleski) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep8.074851.9699@newsroom.bsc.no> henryk@bsc.no (Henryk Modzelewski) writes:
>|> >
>|> >W/g danych nieoficjalnych (z Ministerstwa
>|> >Przemyslu) sprywatyzowane jest ok. 32% gospodarki. Wplywy z sektora prywatnego
>|> >do budzetu wynosza mniej jak 20%. Pisze mniej poniewaz dosc sprytnie wlicza sie
>|> >do dochodow z sektora prywatnego takze indywidualny podatek dochodowy. Tak wiec
>|> >odnosze wrazenie, ze sposob w jaki prywatyzowana jest gospodarka jakos nie
>|> >stawia budzetu na nogi. Podkreslam, ze mam na mysli sposob prywatyzacji a nie
>|> >sama prywatyzacje.
>|>
>|> Swieta prawda.
>
>   DOBRZE MOWI DAC MU WODKI,

No to i ja lykne za trzezwo mowiacych! :-)

>|> Andrzej Zaleski
>
>   Bart Jaworski,

Mariusz
From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Polish complicity - Jewish complicity
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:02:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep11.123804.6844@walter.cray.com> aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur) writes:
[...]
>something different what still seems to be correct. What I wanted
>to say was (and did not do that clearly) that it was strange for me
>that after apparent breaking the law in Poland Rabbi Weiss was not 
>sued in the Polish court what seemed for me quite appropriate.
>[...]
>A. Mazur

I was in Poland at that time, and I don't remember anyone accusing
rabbi Weiss of braking the law. What kind of criminal activity was
he involved in?

--

Krzysztof Kniaz, University of Pennsylvania |Due to circumstances beyond
Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter |your control, you're master of 
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                |your fate and captain of your soul
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski)
Subject: Re: Jack Tuszynski w Polsce
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 15:27:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep7.110630.20252@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> jjt@aristotle.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jack Tuszynski) writes:
>Prosze bardzo:
>
>>To co, pytac sie juz normalnie nie wolno ? Ja na przyklad jestem tez bardzo
>>ciekaw co Jack po wizycie w kraju ma do powiedzenia na temat tamtejszych
>>komuchow, na temat ktorych mial tak duzo do powiedzenia przed swoim
>>wyjazdem do Polski, i czym wzbudzil tak duze kontrowersje na s.c.p.
>
>>Andrzej Zaleski
>
>
>Musze powiedziec wam szczeze.  Jak bylem w Polsce to poznalem i widzialem
>duzo bardzo porzadnych ludzi.  Naprawde musze szczeze powiedziec ze zmienilem
>zdanie o Polsce i Polakach.  Tutaj sie slyszy jak w Polsce oszosci, na nic
>sie nadaja, nie chce im sie pracowac, itd.  W Polsce poznalem i widzialem
>duzo ciezko pracujacych i powarznych ludzi.  Sa owszem pasorzyty i pijacy
>i zly element, ale przewaznie to ludzie w Polsce to sa calkiem w porzadku.

Pozostaje mi tylko powiedziec, ze bardzo sie, Jacku, ciesze, iz te
podroz do Polski odbyles.

Serdecznie pozdrawiam,

Marek Osinski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.jewish
From: avr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (adam.v.reed)
Subject: Background and references for capsule summary, Poland 1926-1934
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:46:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Keywords: History Poland Jews Railways Pilsudski Socialist Unions 1926 Coup

> > 9. In 1926, Marshal Jozef Pilsudski used a railway strike by a
> > largely Jewish labor union as an occasion to install himself in
> > power as a military dictator. Pilsudski was an outspoken
> > opponent of anti-Semitism, and the anti-Semitic nationalist
> > parties were in opposition during his regime. Unfortunately for
> > Jews, Pilsudski chose to rule Poland through the services of his
> > Army cronies, the generals and colonels whom he appointed to most
> > official positions. A handful of the latter were Jewish, but the
> > vast majority were anti-Semitic, or at least willing to tolerate
> > unofficial anti-Semitic terror, for example by refusing to
> > investigate murders committed by anti-Semitic terrorists.

W. Dobosiewicz writes:

> This statement is unexpected. First, just a few days ago, a poster
> assured us that no Jews were allowed to work on the Polish railroads
> and you say they were largely Jewish. (Never mind, they were not.)
> Secondly, the railroad strike started during Pilsudski's coup and was
> directed to support him (it was organised by the Polish socialists).

Actually, the exclusion of Jewish workers from the Polish State
Railways (PKP) dates from the 30s. It was Jewish enterpreneurs
who organized the railways in 19th century Poland (Leopold
Kronenberg, Jan Bloch, Antoni Fraenkel, Herman and Wladyslaw
Epstein), and all the early railway depots were located near
heavily Jewish cities and towns, and employed between 40% and
90% Jews. While the proportion of Jewish employees started to
diminish after 1914, in 1926 it was probably still substantial.
Reference:

Joseph Marcus: Social and Political History of the Jews in
Poland, 1919-1939. Berlin: Walter de Gruyter, 1983.

[For the history of the Polish Railways, see pp 76-83. Also,
if you can't find the Yivo volume, Marcus has a good description
of "etatism" on pp 338-339. "By the second half of 1936 ....
Poland had become the second most socialized country in the world
(after the USSR)." The firing of Jewish employees devastated the
seized enterprises to such an extent that the market share of
Jewish industry was actually higher in 1938 than it had been in
1929 (p. 120).]

Note that Jewish railway workers did not normally join the
nationalist or Catholic unions, and were concentrated in the
Socialist ones. In general, much of the leadership of the
Socialist unions (in Poland, not just in the railways) was
provided by Jews (Herman Lieberman, Emile Haecker, Stanislaw
Mendelsohn, Feliks Perl, Bernard Shapiro). You are correct,
though, in stating that the coup actually started a day before
the strike, and that the strike was meant to support Pilsudski.

			Adam_V_Reed@ATT.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.vietnamese,soc.culture.iranian,misc.education,soc.culture.nepal
From: richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (C. Richter)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY OF OLD PAGAN CULTS
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:15:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.052146.26754@news.media.mit.edu> sanjay@media.mit.edu (Sanjay Manandhar) writes:
>Why so much barrage about all the religious stuff?
>
>Why in the newsgroups:
>soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.vietnamese,soc.culture.iranian,
>misc.education,soc.culture.nepal, I wonder.What do they have in
>common? There are separate newsgroups for religion, right?
>
>I'm sure any religious philosophy would say "Don't waste just because
>it's there. Not even if it's network bandwidth."
>

Hear, Hear!

Conrad Richter
richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
>-- 
>___________________________________________________________________________
>Sanjay Manandhar  MIT Media Laboratory       sanjay@media-lab.media.mit.edu
>                  Siemens-Nixdorf Info Systems          sanjaym@sni-usa.com
>                  Cambridge, Massachusetts. USA              (617) 349-5047
From: branley@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:18:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <1992Sep4.155927.1723@island.COM>, green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
> In article <87665@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep1.195232.5646@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Yes, many Poles did risk their lives to save Jews. But anti-semitism was
>>>and still is endemic to Polish society. This goes quite a bit beyond
>>              ^^^^^^^
>>>mere intolerance or prejudice.
>>
>>You should check your Webster's , before you use a word.
>
> From Webster:
>
>   endemic
>
>     1. Prevalent in or peculiar to a particular locality or people.
>
>
     endemic to polish society--means that anti-sem. doesnt exist in Hungary
 France,Latvia,Ukraina and...if it is your meaninig then take the next space-
shuttle to Alfa-centauri...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz)
Subject: Re: Polish complicity - Jewish complicity 
Keywords: orzel - reszka
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:31:05 GMT

dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:

[...] (follow my example, folks, do not quote too much. Every byte costs.
>#

>#Britain. Polish diplomats and politicians in exile tried to persuade 
>#Allies to bomb the camp. There was an interview with Polish member of the 
>#Government in exile who personally tried to convince Eden to act. 
>#Eden and the British top knew about it. 
>#They did nothing. In the last days of the war Allies bombed chemical factory 
>#in Auschwitz, but not the camp.

On the other hand, they bombed another camp - Mauthausen - continously.
The reason: they were making parts for Messerschmidt planes there. The
presence or absence of prisoners made no difference in this case.

>The allies certainly could have done much more. If airplanes were
>flying above Auschwitz to take pictures, they could also drop
>bombs. I don't know why more wasn't done, and it could be a very
>dark Padora's case is waiting to be opened.


>Don't be ridiculus. Some reasons for "anti-Polish resentment" were
>given here. I also understand that a leading figure in the Polish
>Catholic Church, Glemp, is vehemently antisemitic. 

I think you accuse him of superior qualities he does not possess. His
problem is not antisemitism, it is limited intellectual horizons.
It only appears to be antisemitism, because he was drawn into the
Auschwitz convent debate. But he shows his (limited) class daily meddling
into political life in Poland.
Of course, his predecessor was brilliant (Wyszynski). It is hard for a
dimwit to fit a giant's shoes.

>-Danny Keren.

W. Dobosiewicz
From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:46:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep8.202425.6034@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>
>Now I get a lesson in grammar. I think you know damn well what I meant so
>why the grammar lesson? I was not a party to the "Polish Death Camp"
>controversy, nor am I one of your "s.c.j. net friends", so the analogy 
>is not valid. Now as for the Polish death camp issue, I personally feel they
>should be called German death camps on Polish soil, and leave it at that.
>Are you happy now? Can you now please respond to the content of my post?

I apologize for calling you "a friend from s.c.j.". I appreciate your
support for the correct name of Death Camps. I basically agree with your
statement about polish antisemitism, however I can't just accept the word
>endemic< here. I hope you didn't mean, that anti-s. cannot be found
in France, Romania or Hungary, but the use of "endemic" here suggested
just that. Perhaps not for you and few other people, but there are
netters ,who don't give a damm about details and everything what they
get are simplifications, cliches etc...That's why I'm trying to be
careful HOW I write, shouldn't you?
--

Krzysztof Kniaz, University of Pennsylvania |Due to circumstances beyond
Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter |your control, you're master of 
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                |your fate and captain of your soul
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.jewish
From: azaleski@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrzej Zaleski)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:43:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.215202.19543@sarah.albany.edu> mark@fenris.albany.edu (Mark Steinberger) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.070604.28339@dxcern.cern.ch> michal@vsnmc2.cern.ch (Michal Szleper) writes:
>>It happens that I have seen Shoah.  For what I remember, original
>>speeches were in Polish and there was a woman who translated it ...
>
>>1) In front of a church one man says: "There is a theory that Jews
>>should be persecuted forever because they have crucified Jesus.
>>I don't accept this theory."  He repeated the second sentence twice,
>>however, the translator simply refused to translate it at all,

>What the man is saying here is that some Poles encourage the persecution
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^
>of Jews on the basis of the crucifiction of Jesus. 

Read it once more. Or be more careful during your English classes:-)
 
>--Mark

Andrzej Zaleski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish