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From: brentaa@ac.dal.ca (brent, eh?)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: a question in search of an answer!!!
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:51:49 -0400
Distribution: na
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <644@ka2qhd.de.com>, bill@ka2qhd.de.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
> I went to a dance and danced with my male friend. Since I am a man I was
> called queer. question: why can two women dance together and be friends,
> but when two men do the same they are two homos? Can someone answer this
> question? WHY!!!

Ahhh, yes, It is the ugly head of Societal Intolerance of the Unusual being
raised once again.  The sight of two women dancing is a common thing, and the
unfortunate men in this world have been taught to repress thier desire to
dance unless it is in a socially acceptable, opposite sex kinda way.  Thus
you hardly ever see guys dancing with no women present, and when you do, the
closed minded ones of the world (who are really just jealous that they could
never be as uninhibited) label you as queer, to boost thier own fragile egos.

The only solution I have found is to go to places where there are fewer of
those closed-minded doorknobs around to bug you.  One of my favorite haunts
is a local dance bar that is gay/straight, and men dancing together, whether
they are gay or not, is a common sight.  Nobody there makes any judgements
about anything that anyone else does.  Of course, you do have to fend off
the occasional advance of other guys, but if you are secure in your masculinity,
Which you must be to dance with another guys, it's no big deal.

I don't know if there is any place like that around you, but you should at 
least be able to find somewhere where the general attitude is a little more
liberal...

And, of course, the only real answer to the problem is to look the person who
called you queer square in the eye and let out a big SCREW YOU!!!!
;-)
				-Brontosaur the dancin dude....

p.s.  I posted a version of this already, but it didn't seem to work...
sorry if it turned up twice on your newsnet....

p.p.s.  I've been too busy with midterms and such lately, so I haven't been
able to keep up with this group...if you posted anything directed at me, like
any nice flames or good stuff like that, I'm not just ignoring you...
(of course, I might have ignored you even if I had seen it, but we'll never
know ...;-)
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Hey!
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:48:49 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <5650@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>
>Is my software gonna let me actually post now? All this time I've been
>unintentionally lurking. The machine that supplys my news feed was eating
>my posts! And here I was thinking that the world was ignoring me! All
>this because of a single space in the wrong spot! :( 
>
>Well, now I won't have to resort to email to all of you! :D
>
Coming through on this end, Tim.  but does that mean I'll never
hear from you in private?  This would truly be a tragedy :(
  
--j
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Subject: Re: **FIRST*DATE*IDEAS**
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 20:58:57 GMT

In article <BxLzJ3.6zI@mail.boi.hp.com> morrison@boi.hp.com (Glen Morrison) writes:
>Ok, so I met this lady about two weeks ago and I'm very interested in her.
>She showed quite a bit of interest in me also.  We've only had one
>long conversation and some short phone chats, but I'm pretty sure she'll
>go out with me. 
>So I need some attractive, interesting first date ideas.  I want to impress
>her, but not overly impress.  Also, while we're on the subject, how about
>some DOs and DON'Ts on first dates. More DOs than DON'Ts please. 
>Oh yea, I forgot to mention we're both in our mid-twenties.
>
Good for you. I wouldn't advise trying to impress someone you want to
get involved with though, unless you mean making a good impression
by being neatly dressed, and so on. If you try to impress her with
what good taste you have in wine, and so forth, you tend to look
like you are puffing up. And that makes it look like you think you
aren't good enough for her to like you for yourself. I suggest you
aim to please her rather than impress her.

I think if you have a strategy, it is easy to come up with then tactics.
Unless you know this lady well, I think your aim for the first date
making her comfortable with you. Of course, if you think she is already
comfortable with you, you can skip that. As she gets comfortable with
you, the dates can focus more on fun. 

So a dinner at a nice, but not too nice place makes a good first date.
You don't want too much distraction, you don't want too much privacy,
and you need to be able to talk so you can size each other up. Dress
nicely, but with the idea that your appearance should not distract from
the more important business of getting to know one another. It is also
handy if you can get an idea of what sort of activities you might do
together on future dates, but it is never a good idea to look like you
are digging for facts in your conversation.

After the first date, then you can go for interesting dates. But stick
to things you are pretty sure she is interested in. She may feel obliged
to go on a date even if she doesn't like the activity, and if she really
doesn't like it, that could really work against you.


Good Luck,
Michael.


PS. If you have access to alt.romance, it is a good place to post 
    questions like this. The people that post there have lots of 
    ideas that I am sure are better than mine.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman)
Subject: Re: Last Philly Boink Announcement
Keywords: Boink, sensitive, fun
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:06:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.223917.15398@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
>This will most likely be the last Philly Boink announcement that you see.

Mua ha ha ha!  as they say on alt.evil, I don't think so.

>Everything is falling into place and it looks like we'll have about 25
>netters participating in this glorious event which begins next Friday
>evening. So if you haven't got any plans yet for the weekend of
>November 20th - 22 you're welcome to join us, soc.singles.celebs and
>lurkers alike, in Philadelphia.  Crash space is still available although
>only sleeping bag space at this point.

Soon, it is to be soon...
-Sheba

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:19:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.165341.3710@msdhsv.ingr.com>, rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.134633.24131@b8.b8.ingr.com>, larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> |> 
> 
> Could it have been because you refered to her child as 'it'?  
> 
> 
> Chris Hudson

That was 6+ years ago, I knew the childs name then, I believe it was Michele,
but having not seen her or child in over 6 years (not wanting to in 5+ years)
the memory is defective.  You should hear what I call the mom, NOW!

To cross this over to another recently discussed topic, I still remember the
BAD times as clearly or more clearly than the good times.  Of course there were
more bad times.

Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:02:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.212218.3329@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome) writes:
>I have a question for you all -- how important is formal education
>versus native intelligence and self-education in those that you are
>romantically interested in?
>
>Here are a couple of scenarios:
>
>1.
>  You meet someone who is articulate, well-informed, and
>  knowledgeable on several diverse subjects.  After spending some
>  time with them and getting to enjoy their company how do
>  you feel about pursuing them as a romantic partner given that:

>  A) They have a significant amount more formal schooling (ie,
>     degrees) than you.  

Could be a problem, but could also be about as significant as a birth
mark on their left (lower) cheek.

>  B) have approximately the same amount of education as you

Don't see that as having any bearing on the relationship.

>  C) they have never finished college (or for the younger readers
>     high school).

Not as issue for me.  

>Do any of those scenarios affect your willingness to date that
>person -- especially given that you already like them.
>
>2.
>  You meet someone who has a difficult time expressing themselves,
>  isn't aware of the world beyond their immediate sphere of
>  influence, and appears not to know an awful lot about
>  much of anything (except perhaps a narrow area). After spending
>  some time with them and getting to enjoy their company how do you
>  feel about pursuing them as a romantic partner given that:
>
>  A) They have a significant amount more formal schooling (ie,
>     degrees) than you.  
>
>  B) have approximately the same amount of education as you
>
>  C) they have never finished college (or for the younger readers
>     high school).

The degree of education would not affect how I would react to the 
attitude you described.

>Do any of the above affect how you relate to the person as a
>potential romantic interest?

Of course it would.  Each aspect of one's personality would affect
the way I relate to them.

>3
>    Now, what if the person in the first scenario never finished
>    college and the person in the second has a PhD.  Which one
>    would you date?  Why?

Probably the first.  But I seem to be attracted to the severly neurotic
and they to me, so my opinion doesn't count.
>
>Just more food for thought.

Well, I'm full.
>
>Allisson

You always seem to have a unique approach.  

				Steve
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Global Warming
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:38:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

: Not over the south pole. Perhaps you heard about the erratic behaviour
: of the ever expanding  ozone hole over the northern hemisphere.

  About a year ago I read a very disturbing report from NASA (can't remember
  the name but you will probably know better than me) which indicated that 
  some ozone depeletion (or at least a depression in levels) was being 
  experienced as far south as London! 

  The ozone hole forms over a very short period when the first glimmerings 
  of the spring sun reach the pole while the weather conditions are 
  otherwise cold and static. During this period 2% of the ozone
  concentration over this area is lost *per day*. Frightening stuff.
  (Time to buy shares in sunglasses and suntan oil)

: Rick Healy
: NASA-Goddard Institute for Space Studies
: 2880 Broadway
: New York, NY 10025

		Aaron Turner		aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
From: mysti@sybase.com (Mysti)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: British men
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:59:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <MARTINC.92Oct31152458@currituck.cs.unc.edu> martinc@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <25147@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:
>
>>   [silly attempts to get my goat deleted]
>
>If you don't want it, could I have it?

I'm going to ignore the straight line set-up here.  If it kills me...

>   FYI, folks who like to (try to) heap abuse on my head, Susan Faludi
>   says in "Backlash" that battery by domestic partners was the number
>   one cause of injury among women in the late 80's.  Put that in your
>   baseball bat and smoke it.....
>
>Susan Faludi says lots of things that other less polemical sources
>disagree with.

Are you saying she misquoted or misrepresented the studies she quotes from?
They have been echoed by a number of public service organizations, including
the group which put billboards up all over (at least) Oakland, to roughly
the same point.

So are you disagreeing with the reality of the statistics or no?

Thanks,

Mysti
--
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"It't not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:14:25 GMT

|> Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
|> : Hanging out in bookstores or libraries is a good sign!  :-)  I also
|> : tend to look for absence of bad signs such as wedding rings,
|> : cigarettes, alcohol, slobby appearance.  It's not 100% infallible, but
|> : I also consider wearing a suit and/or tie to be a bad sign (conformity).
|>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey, it should depend on the reason for wearing the suit.  I personally hate
suits.  The only one that I own is about 10 years old.  There are,
unfortunately, instances where it can be necessary to wear one.  I can't
actually think of one off of the top of my head, other than for a job interview,
which was the last time I wore one, but I'm sure that there are reasons.

Ties are the same way.  Until a few months ago, a tie was required where I work.
 Luckily that's no longer the case.

Chris Hudson
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:53:52 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <9211112207.AA06353@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
 
|      As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
|  YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
|  1970 to 1980 was.

Considering the age of many of the people that post to the net today I would
say it would have been the day they were born.
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,junk,alt.polyamory
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:50:42 GMT
	<1992Nov10.063926.15997@latcs1.lat.oz.au>
	<1992Nov10.191151.1138@newstand.syr.edu>
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <1992Nov10.191151.1138@newstand.syr.edu> isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:

   Well, I'll throw my two cents in here to be scarfed up and flamed at...
   I see a problem with same-sex parents, it's that the child(ren) will
   -probably- (see, I'm NOT saying WILL) miss out ona wide range of
   emotional responses and thought patterns.. They'll either see all-male,
   or all-female type behaivor. Of course, single-parent child-raising has
   the same problems..  Now, am I saying that single/same childraising shoudn't
   take place? No. But I do see it not being as effective as hetero, just
   due to lack of exposure. (ok, flame away)

I won't flame you. I'll say some things for you to listen to and
consider.

I'm a man who feels and *expresses* the range of human emotions. I can
be soft and gentle, or hard and firm (no wise cracks from the
audience!). I can cry or feel anger. I can be aggressive. I can be
nurturing.

I sense in your post the underlying assumption that men feel and
express a subset of the set of human emotions (the "male" set, which
no doubt includes all the hard and aggressive ones) and that women
access a complementary set (the "female" emotions, nurturing, caring,
receptive).

I encourage you to re-examine this belief of yours very seriously.

The gender of the parent(s) has little to do with whether or not they
provide a rich emotional (and otherwise) environment for their kids,
especially if they don't live by the societal beliefs about men and
women.

Also, parents are not the only people that kids are exposed to.

			---Kayvan
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From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: a question in search of an answer!!!
Keywords: men
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:55:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

bill@ka2qhd.de.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:

>I went to a dance and danced with my male friend. Since I am a man I was
>called queer. question: why can two women dance together and be friends,
>but when two men do the same they are two homos? Can someone answer this
>question? WHY!!!

Move to San Francisco. No one cares about the gender of the
people you dance with here. And no, I don't mean they'll all assume you're
queer. There are too many genders and sexual orientations here for people
to keep track like they try to in other parts of the country. So they pretty
much just concentrate on having fun.

--
Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined  
stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsonian
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: nkill
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:34:48 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

>rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>
>>     Affirmative Action is simply reverse discrimination.  Minorities
>>here in California receive extra points on their exams for state jobs
>>just because they are a minority.  Here is a hypothetical example:
>>A person receives 5 extra points if that person is a minority.
>>Person W, a non-minority, earns a 95 score on the exam.  Person M,
>>a minority, earns a 91 score on the exam and gets 5 extra points which
>>gives her a total of 96.  Person M will be hired, although she is less
>>qualified than person W, because she is a minority.  That is clearly wrong.
> 
I don't know how many more points someone gets for being a member of a 
minority group, but I question whether someone with a 95 score is "more 
qualified" than someone with a 90 score. That small a spread could be 
affected by anything. 

If my argument is correct, that means the two candidates are equally
qualified. The real question to ask about affirmative action is whether you
should give precedence to a member of a minority group who is equally as
qualified as someone who is not a member of a minority group.

--
Stef                   You either sink or swim, or you don't.
stef@apple.com                           --Bolloxed proverb hall of fame
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: marital counciling
Organization: The Cultural Elite
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:17:30 GMT

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>>>either, since my sweetie and I don't seem to lack communication.)
>>Does that mean _she_ knows how to pronounce your name?  :)
>If _you_ would like to know, you can always ask....

What I really want to know is whether ucs is pronounced "ux" or "ukes".
These obscure middle names can be so confusing.

>Mmm hmm.  I wonder what my sweetie would say if I offered 
>to give geography lessons to some woman I met on the net.

You can never be too careful with those net women... ;)

> [...]So perhaps the lemur is to blame
> for it all.".......Will Cuppy, _How To Tell Your Friends from the Apes_

So THEY'RE the ones that produced the federal deficit.  

>There.  Maybe that will help to keep you warm through those 
>cold and lonely city nights...

Well, lemurs are certainly cute and charming, but looks aren't everything.
I haven't had much success discussing politics with them, and their table
manners are even worse than Goops'.  Good thing there are other options.
(I still wish I had a slow loris though.)

---Julie
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* genera _Loris_ and _Nycticebus_, of tropical Asia, having dense, woolly *
* fur, large eyes, and a vestigial tail.  [French, probably from obsolete *
* Dutch _loeris_, simpleton, clown.]    ---- American Heritage Dictionary *
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:41:18 GMT

In article <DANIEL.92Nov4134059@algol.clsi.COM>, daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay) writes:
> 
> 
> (Separately, is there anything wrong with _being_ rescued other than being 
> portrayed as _needing_ to be rescued (or rescued _by men_)?  Seriously.  Do you
> think that movie makers portray women to imply that woman are weak, or that 

I could be wrong, but isn't a lot of the "Romance Novels" dealing with Men
coming to rescue Women?  If not from physical danger, then from the drudgery
of their "boring" (refering to the characters in the books) life?

From what I've seen, more women purchase these than men, so my conclusion
would be (DRUM roll please) Not all women consider "being rescued by a man
to be a bad thing.

> Daniel S. Barclay			CAD Language Systems, Inc.

Larry Billings

Newsgroups: soc.singles