From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Stereotyping
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:07:52 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <193135@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov>, pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew) writes:
> In article <11678@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> > Look.  We all know that homsoexuals are severely damaged people.
> > You know it too.  That's why you engage in the continual efforts
> > to persuade yourself that you are really OK, and why you insist
> > on forcing other people to shut up about the subject.
> 
> No, Clayton, we don't "all know" that homosexuals are "severely damaged
> people".  All you are proving is that *you* are a severely damaged person.
> Get help, Clayton; you need psychological counselling badly.
> 
> Paul Bartholomew          |   "The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of

I can see the conversation: "I know a group of people march in 
parades where they wear the most outrageous outfits, things that 
offend the vast majority of Americans.  They spend much of their 
time complaining about the unfairness of a society that doesn't 
approve of these outrageous displays that they put on in public.

"They complain about our society stereotyping them as sadomasochists, 
effeminate cross-dressers, and child molesters, in spite of the 
gay parades in which groups like Dykes on Bikes participate, men 
dress up in drag, men dress up in S&M attire, and groups such as 
the North American Man-Boy Love Association are welcome.

"They complain about our society stereotyping them as sex obssessed,
but many of their discussions in a public forum revolve around 
pornographic movie 'stars' and casual sex with strangers.

"They insist that they don't support molestation, and yet a large
fraction of the group will engage in semantic games to show that 
adults having sex with kids as young as eight isn't 'molestation' 
but 'love.'

"They whine about AIDS, and yet, continue to justify the 
promiscuous sexuality that caused AIDS to spread so rapidly through 
their population, claiming that condoms will solve all problems.

"In spite of massive public education efforts aimed at the general
population, and this group, unsafe sex practices remain a major
problem, even though the consequences are a painful and long
drawn-out death.

"Why do I perceive this group as being pretty screwed up?"

The psychiatrist puffs on his pipe, and leans over: "Tell me, 
Clayton, how long have you let what a group insists on portraying 
themselves as influence your perception of them?"

Soc.motss, and the gay parades, are the equivalent of a parade
in which black men are all eating watermelon, killing, raping,
and robbing people, or pretending to be Stephen Fetchit.

Homosexuals hate stereotyping.  So why is so much energy put into
reinforcing those stereotypes?  Is it because those stereotypes
reflect reality for some significant fraction of homosexuals?
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
When the government wins the War on Drugs, they are welcome to try their
gun control snake oil.
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