HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Subject: Still waiting for 3.0...
Reply-To: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Organization: Baker Consulting  -  Dover, NH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:06:50 GMT


Has anyone out there who bought a machine through MIT received their 3.0  
CD yet?  I'm amazed in that I just read how someone in Italy has already  
been running 3.0 for a couple of days and I'm still waiting.  I got my  
NSTC in April so it's not like I'm last on the list.  I received a letter  
from MIT two weeks ago asking for my street address which lead me to  
believe it would be shipped UPS or FedEx so I thought it might arrive soon  
but follow-up email and a phone call have gone unanswered.

Just wondering...

tjb

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From: dougmac@thnext.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Doug A MacIntire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Driver for HP DeskWriter?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:57:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Is there a driver somewhere for an HP DeskWriter?  Do I need 3.0?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Distrubuted Objects Experiment
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:57:20 GMT

During the 3.0 beta cycle, I tried an experiment with Distributed
Objects.  Unfortunately, the experiment didn't work due to the way
network security was setup at one of the sites.

So, if you have a full-blown internet feed (like T1 or better), don't
have funky network security (as far as limiting packets going in and
out of your domain - i.e. big .edu sites are perfect), and want to do
the NeXT community a great service, send me mail.  It will only take a
few minutes of your time at your convenience.


thanks,
andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Delayed Fax Doesn't Work (3.0)?
Reply-To: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:31:06 GMT

Help!  Under PR2 I was able to use the delayed fax option.  After we  
upgraded to 3.0, it no longer works; any attempt to send a fax at a later  
date or time results in the fax going out immediately.  Has anybody run  
into this?  Does anyone know how I might fix it?  Please reply via email  
and I'll summarize.  Thanks in advance!
-- 
 Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software - zac@dolphin.com (NeXTMail welcome!)
         900 High School Way - Suite 2106 - Mountain View - CA - 94041
 To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy... and dull
 fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. -- R. A. Heinlen
From: paul@music.sie.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Edit.app in 3.0.  Goto Line # removed!
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:53:33 GMT
	<1992Oct6.230256.22628@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Organization: Systems & Industrial Engineering, U of AZ

Thanks to all who have answered the question, via e-mail and here.

I had discovered the "Developer Mode" radio button, but didn't restart
Edit.  I checked the documentation, but didn't see anything.  It
wasn't clear to me that Developer Mode was a startup option...

Anyway, thanks again to you and all other respondents.
--paul
From: jonv@hitotsu.claremont.edu (Jon Vestal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Dot Matrix Printers?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:29:03 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711


	What options are availabe to use a dot matrix printer from NeXTStep  
3.0.  In our lab we have a Novell network with a LaserWriter IINTX, several  
ImageWriters, a HP RugedWriter (doing IBM Graphics Emulation), and a 9 pin  
ProPrinter.  I currently have the LaserWriter accessible but need a way to get  
one of the dot matrix printers up for NeXT users.  Any help would greatly be  
appreciated.  Please e-mail to me directly.  Thanks.

Jon Vestal
Systems Technician
Pitzer College
jonv@pitzer.claremont.edu
jonv@ptnext.claremont.edu
From: tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tod McQuillin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Background pattern
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:10:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sert8oW00XQDQYycUo
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

matt@zeb.ame.nd.edu (Matthew J. Grismer) writes:
> Since Scene apparently does not work under 3.0, does anyone know of an  
> application to alter the workspace background the way Scene would let you,  
> i.e. choose a pattern, or a place a tiff image in the background?  
> Background lets you do this, but then the background returns to normal  
> when you quit. With Scene, the background would remain after you quit.

I don't know about putting arbitrary images on the background, but
Preferences under 3.0 lets you set a colour or pattern for the screen.
Click on the colours button and drag your chosen colour into the
sample box.  (E-mail me if this description of the procedure is
unclear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image & scanner driver question
Reply-To: dpeter@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:58:52 GMT


In article <1992Sep29.162540.25815@adobe.com> byer@adobe.com (Scott  
Byer) writes:
>  Michael B. Johnson writes
>  
> >  Barring that, does anyone know if Appsoft Image will be able to
> >  directly control a scanner, ala PhotoShop's drop in filters for
> >  scanners?  This would really open up third party scanners to the
> >  NeXT. Of course I forgot to ask anyone from Appsoft at 
> >  Seybold...
> > 

Appsoft Image will ship with support for HSD scanners built-in.

If their are any other NeXT Registered Developers that would like to  
include scanner support within their products, please contact me.  
We'll send you our scanner toolkit along with a "royalty-free" right  
to re-distribute it when integrated with your commercial application.

When your application is ready to ship, we'll provide marketing  
assistance by notifying our installed base of scanner customers (the  
largest on the NeXT platform) that your application is now available.  
We'll also consider "bundling" your application, co-marketing and  
promotional arrangements.

Please contact me if you'd like details.

--
David W. Peter
dpeter@hsd.com
(800) 828-5522
(415) 964-1400
From: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How Slow is NeXTSTEP 3.0 w/ 8 megs ram?
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: arrigo@cube.sublink.org
Organization: Arrigo Benedetti

In article <1992Oct6.044605.787@mercury.cair.du.edu>  
lbrahm@denver.cba.du.edu (Lans Brahmantyo) writes:
> In article <1992Sep29.203803.12888@terminator.cc.umich.edu
> srosie@ftp.ifs.umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> > > Well, the subject says it all.  I was wondering if anyone's loaded
> > > 3.0 onto a 68040 cube with only 8 megs (sniff) of memory?  How
> > > slow should I expect the system to run compared with 2.0? 
> 
> It is so very very slow... it is almost unbearable. A lot of users are  
> complaining about the slowness already. On our 20 MB and 32 MB machines,  
the  
> speed reduction is almost minimal although you can still see.  NetInfo  
> operations, however, is a lot faster than 2.1.
> 

Ok, now that 3.0 has arrived to Italy (WOW!) and been running on my cube  
for a couple of days I'll add my $0.02 to this thread.
I have an 8 MB cube and, yes, I admit that 3.0 is perceivably slower than
2.0.
Windows redraws and scrolls, which were snappy on 2.0, are noticeably
slower now. However, if the workload is light, i.e. simple
editing/compiling tasks from a terminal window, I don't notice an
appreciable degradation in performance. If you run DTP or graphics
application that's a different story ...

-Arrigo
-- 
Arrigo Benedetti             e-mail: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (preferred)
University of Bologna                benedett@deis01.cineca.it
undergraduate student (EECS)         
Via S. Agata, 11               Tel:  (home)   +39 59 224929
41100 Modena - Italy                 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: outland!jmast (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Re: How do you spell S-E-R-V-I-C-E?
Reply-To: deepthought!outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:04:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.030201.3493@cube.handheld.com>  
jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
> In article <lux.718508977@sol.UVic.CA> lux@sol.UVic.CA  
(Michael O'Henly)  
> writes:
> > 	I am impressed. Yesterday I got back after a long  
weekend and
> > found that my six-week-old monitor had packed it in. I  
reacted with
> > all the calm you might expect in someone who's at the early  
stages of
> > an already-behind-schedule project.
> > 
> > 	At 7:15 AM, I left email for the Western Canada NeXT  
reps to
> > try and find out just what kind of warranty I _really_ have.  
By 9:00,
> > we were down to brass tacks on the phone. Before lunch, I  
was talking
> > serial numbers with Sharon at NeXT in California... 
> > 
> > 	Before lunch today -- a mere 24 hours later, but a world  
away
> > on lovely Vancouver Island -- I was sitting in front of a  
functioning
> > replacement monitor.
> > 
> > 	My hat's off, folks (hell, my _shirt's_ off!). Thank  
you,
> > thank you, thank you.
> > 
> > 	Michael.
> > -- 
> > Michael O'Henly                 
> > McPherson Library                Internet:  lux@sol.uvic.ca
> > University of Victoria                      lux@uvvm.uvic.ca
> > Victoria, B.C., Canada             BITNET:  lux@uvvm
> 
> Sharon has been a great help to me, over the past year and a  
half, too!  She  
> really cares about the customer.  NeXT needs more like her.
> 
> Jim

Ditto... Here's another satisfied customer thanks to Sharon's  
efforts!
-- 
John A. Mastrolia				+1 606 258-8989
   deepthought!outland!jmast@ms.uky.edu
Univeristy of Kentucky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eps!uunet (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: C-News
Reply-To: steve@eps.com
Organization: EPS
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:52:25 GMT

Does anyone know what the "newsdaily" script does on a NeXT?? I'm running  
C-News with NewsGrazer and I Can't get the newsdaily script to run..


steve@eps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:53:57 GMT

In article <1ask66INN2ga@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu>  
usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Bill Canning) writes:
> In article <1aif4dINNm0d@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu> I write:
> 
> >Can I attach an IBM 3510 CD-ROM drive to a non-Turbo NeXTstation Color
> >machine?  If so, how?
> >
> 
> Thanks to all those who responded.  The easiest way to get rid of the hard-
> ware password is to do the following:
> 
> 	Remove the lithium battery.
> 
> 	Put the battery in the opposite way for 2 or 3 seconds. (Or simply
> 	leave it out for a while.)

I would NEVER put the battery in backwards!  If they have a protection diode,  
it will do nothing.  If not, you run the risk of damaging the clock chip, or of  
exploding caps or even (remotely) blowing the battery seals!


> 
> 	Return the battery to its original orientation.
> 
> Unfortunately, this DOES erase the ROM monitor's parameters.
> 
> There is also a program that will find out the password.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Canning			usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Internet)
> (314) 882-2131			muccgw.usbill@ssgate.missouri.edu  
(cc:Mail)
> [314] 882=4699 (Fax)		CSPECWC@MIZZOU1 (BITNET)

Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: matt@zeb.ame.nd.edu (Matthew J. Grismer)
Subject: Background pattern
Keywords: background,scene
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:34:55 GMT

Since Scene apparently does not work under 3.0, does anyone know of an  
application to alter the workspace background the way Scene would let you,  
i.e. choose a pattern, or a place a tiff image in the background?  
Background lets you do this, but then the background returns to normal  
when you quit. With Scene, the background would remain after you quit.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: e-mail for Cambridge Animation Systems?
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:08:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.071540.9329@cx5.com> tlc@cx5.com writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of an e-mail address for Cambridge Animation Systems?  
They are  

Try:

admin@cam-ani.co.uk

Their full details:
Cambridge Animation Systems
3 Kings Parade
Cambridge CB3 9ED
England
Phone: (44)223-311231
Fax: (44)223-350286

Paul
-- 
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems                   (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501                      paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                       76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: Re: HiddenWords, sndMucker, and artillery...
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:12:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.004823.213@u.washington.edu>  
basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes:
> 
> >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Buck <tim@rri.UUCP> writes:
> 
> >Tim> In article <1992Oct7.125957.12258@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes:
> >>
> >>These three were recently posted to nova/sonata as .tar.Z files.   
However,  
> >>when I try to uncompress them, it seems to go for awhile, make a file  
> >>about 5-6 megs big, then die for some strange (unpredictable) error.   
Has  
> >>anyone else had any problems uncompressing these files?  Any idea what  
is  
> >>going wrong for me?
> >>
> >Tim> It sounds to me like you forgot to use BINARY when you FTPed them.
> 
> >Well, I ftp'ed them in binary mode and got the same problems. Perhaps
> >they were uploaded by the author in ascii mode by mistake?
> 
> >--
> >erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
> 
> Make sure you uncompress from the command line and not using Opener.app.
> Also, permissions aren't preserved so you may need to make the thing
> executable before it'll work.
> 
> Dave

I did it from shell too, and the result was:

1 boss -> uncompress sndMucker.Z
uncompress: corrupt input
memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap
bad zone
IOT trap

Any comments?
--
Bernhard Nocker                          Beware root :-)
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5	5020 Salzburg    Austria, Europe
+43-662-8044/6750		  bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: 3.0 FontPanel acceleration is broken (BUG!!?)
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:31:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.030229.27428@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>  
coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.023315.26886@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>  
coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:
> >In article <5335@rosie.NeXT.COM> aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer) writes:
> >>In article <1992Oct4.043034.213@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.uucp  
writes:
[chomp]

Neat trick.  However, have you noticed that there is no longer a return  
symbol on OK on the Font Panel?

For those of us used to using it under 2.x, hitting return while selecting  
a font just erases the text selection we had highlighted!  Ouch.

Paul
-- 
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems                   (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501                      paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                       76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jesper@harry.xanthus.se (Jesper Lundh)
Subject: Now Shipping: SplitBuilder/Receiver for large files via NeXTmail
Keywords: Xanthus
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:20:54 GMT


            Xanthus International Announces 

                  SplitBuilder/Receiver 

      - for sending large files with NeXTmail

(Stockholm, October 9, 1992) Xanthus International AB today announced that  
it is shipping SplitBuilder/Receiver, a utility program for the NeXT  
computer that makes it possible for users to send files of any size with  
NeXTmail by dividing them into smaller files.

A problem with NeXTmail is that sometimes you want to send attachments  
that are so big that some gateways on the net will refuse to deliver your  
letter because of its size.

SplitBuilder/Receiver solves this problem by allowing the sender to divide  
big files into smaller pieces, called "splits". Each split can be sent by  
NeXTmail. The receiver can then assemble the splits to restore the  
original file.

SplitBuilder/Receiver consists of two different applications:

- SplitBuilder divides big files into smaller pieces ("splits") that may  
be sent by NeXTmail.

- SplitReceiver puts all the splits together on the receivers machine.

For more information about SplitBuilder/Receiver please contact  
splitbuilder@xanthus.se

Xanthus International, headquartered in Stockholm, Sweden, is a privately  
owned software development company that specializes in the NeXTSTEP  
platform. SplitBuilder/Receiver is the third in a series of  
general-purpose productivity tools for NeXTSTEP. In May 1992 Xanthus  
started to ship its first product CraftMan, the multimedia programming  
tool for the NeXT computer. In September 1992 Xanthus released LaserMan,  
an application for controlling Laser Disc Players from a NeXT computer.  
Xanthus International was founded in 1990.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: colin@agincourt.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Garrett)
Subject: Keymapping not working through Preferences?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:39:05 GMT

I created a custom keymapping using Keyboard.app (just putting '|' on  
shift-backspace and '\' on control-backspace) and put it in  
/LocalLibrary/Keyboards.  After restarting Preferences it came up fine on  
the list with the other keymappings and I could choose it as my default,  
but it didn't take effect.  Logging out and back in and rebooting don't  
work.  I still have to fire up Keyboard.app, load the keymapping and  
select the 'Use' menu option to activate it.  Permissions on the mapping  
file are 644.
Any suggestions?


Colin Garrett
University of Chicago
From: Bob_Beckwith@NeXT.COM (Bob Beckwith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:07:17 GMT
Reply-To: Bob_Beckwith@NeXT.COM (Bob Beckwith)

In article <5357@rosie.NeXT.COM> amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum) writes:
> So, if you need to eliminate the hardware password, remove the
> battery and wait until the capacitors discharge (which might take
> a couple of hours).  Realize this will also clear out any other
> parameters stored in the NVRAM, such as the boot command.

This technique should work, but if you don't have a couple of hours to wait,  
you can place a short across the battery terminals (by using a short piece of  
wire) after removing the battery. This should remove any residual charge that  
happens to be floating around. We do this in the lab all the time. We also use  
static protection straps (i.e. don't remove the cover of your system unless  
you're sure that you've taken adequate precautions against electro-static  
discharge (ESD). ESD can severely damage many of the components contained  
inside your system. Grounding kits are quite inexpensive, and certainly much  
less than a new computer :-)

  --Bob

Bob_Beckwith@NeXT.COM
Digital Hardware Engineering
NeXT Computer, Inc.
900 Chesapeake Drive
Redwood City, CA 94063 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Apple LaserWriter
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 10:56:30 GMT
Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik

In article <cue-081092000218@17.1.7.157>  writes:
> What do I need to do to print from a NeXT to an Apple Laserwriter hooked up
> on an Ethernet network?
> 
> Eddy Cue
> cue@apple.com

How ist it hookedup? what system versions are you raunning?

With a gotorBox and GatorPrint, any unix box with BSD printer spoolers can  
print on the apple printers. Just set up a remote printer according to the  
manuals (both Cayman's and NeXT's).

With these neat littel EtherTalk <-> LocalTalk boxes you'll probably 'just'  
need 3.0 on the NeXT. I havn't tried it yet. My 3.0 package is sitting on my  
desk, but I'm missing the diskspace to upgrade ...

-Robert
--
Robert Frank                         tel. + (061) 321 99 67                 
Institut fuer Informatik             fax  + (061) 321 99 15                 
University of Basel, Switzerland                                            
Mittlere Strasse 142      rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)  
CH-4056 Basel          X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
                   ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: right now
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 10:41:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.024140.5476@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com writes:
>In article <199210110339.AA22649@cnam.cnam.fr> eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald) writes:
>>If I understand rightly there is no word processor bundled anymore on the
>>NeXT. This is a giant step backwards. It means that troff and nroff once
>>again become the de facto lingua franca, although no one knows how to use
>>them anymore :-)
>>Who's gonna do a freeware hack? 
>
>NeXTSTEP sure does come with a word-processor!  It's called Edit.  RTF
>is good, and don't forget about PostScript.  I really don't think many
>NeXT users are going to wrestle with *roff or TeX (don't get me wrong,
>I think TeX is great).


Completely true!  I have been using Frame and WriteNow, and finally
figured out that 80% of the stuff could have been done  in Edit (and
has anyone compared file sizes in the three formats??? ;-) Just try
it somtime... ;-)

WriteNow usually won't do very much more than Edit, then I use Frame
(or for _real_ assignments and jobs :-), and Edit is fast, compact,
and very easy to use.  And much easier to integrate later in a shell
with *roff...

>
>
>andrew
>-- 
>andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
>Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
>Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
>                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot


Thor
NorNeXT User Group
University of Bergen
Norway
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