From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Very Old Question For Rob Levene
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:47:04 GMT
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 RAL> From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
 RAL> Message-ID: <9210010252.AA19390@aplpy.jhuapl.edu>

           -=> Quoting Robert A. Levene to Bruce Tiffany <=-
 RAL> No comparison.  Jesus is dead, having failed to bring about the
 RAL> messianic redemption.  Rabbi Schneerson is alive, and still can
 RAL> accomplish what the messiah has to do.

      Once again - you are confusing the life work of the Suffering
      Messiah with the Reigning Messiah.  Their ministries are
      seperated in both Messianic and Rabbinic thought, - one following
      the other.  The only real difference, (between the MJ and RJ
      understanding), is the time element, and: two; or One twice.
             I lost the other two posts from you, so briefly...

  As I was on a journey, I was blessed by the Holy One - praised be He!
               - to hear the sages discuss a Great Mystery:

                       Of HaShem in Tanakh it is said:
        Unto thee is was shown, that thou mightest know that Y-H-V-H,
        He is Elohim; and there in none beside Him. - Deut. 4:35. There
        is none holy as Y-H-V-H; for there is none beside Thee; neither
        is there any rock like our God. - 1Sam.2:2.

                     Yet, behold, the Midrashim declare:
        ...What is the Name of King Messiah? To this answered Rabbi
        Abba bar Kahana: HaShem is His Name... - Midrash Echa 1:51.

             Not merely a 'form or part' of the Divine Name, but the
        very Divine Name - and that followed by His attribute.

                         Tanakh further declares:
        I Am Y-H-V-H, that is My Name; and My Glory will I not give to
        another, - Is. 42:8a.

                   But come and see, the Midrashim tell us:
        Rabbi Hann in the name of Rabbi Aha, continues the thought: G-d
        will bestow a portion of His supernatural Glory on Messiah....
        - Midrash Tehillim on Ps.21:3.

             For the Sages declared that this Righteous Branch is
        HaMashiach.  And as a branch is part of the whole, but not
        the totality of the whole - so This Branch is Part of the
        Whole, but not the totality of the Whole.  And again Tanakh
        declares HaShem brought forth Salvation (Yeshua) by His own
        Right Arm; and as the Targumim and Midrashim declare: The Arm
        of HaShem is HaMashiach.  And as the arm of man is part of man,
        but not the totality of a man; so the Arm of HaShem is Part of
        HaShem, but not the totality of HaShem.  And The L-RD sent
        forth His Arm as Salvation to mankind - yet the Tanakh declares
        that there is Salvation in none other than HaShem?; so we see
        that it was as in a glove, to veil the Shechinah from the eyes
        of men who could not bear it; even as Moshe veiled his face
        from the children of Israel.

              But how can this be?  Thus we continue to read of
                                El*him Echad:

        How can Three be One?  Are they verily One because we call them
        One?  How can Three be One, can only be known through the
        revelation of the Holy Spirit. - Zohar, vol.2.p,43, versa,p.22.

... 012 they heard the Voice of HaShem El*him walking in the garden...210                    
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