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From: sjr@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stuart Robertson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:53:02 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Talking about rivaly, how about Tamworth Town and Atherstone United.
United have never forgiven us for winning the FA Vase in '89.  Not only that but the
sods have the audacity to nick our manager and take players with him.

And they beat us on penalties in the semi of last years Midlands Floodlit cup (on
penalties).

None of this Old Firm rubbish here, this is REAL hatred.

- LAMBS FOREVER -
From: tom@varian.com (tom cao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: re: Re: RULE CHANGES
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:31:32 GMT
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems

>Actually, ACCORDING TO THE LAW the clock SHALL be stopped when there is
>an injury or if the referee thinks that a player is trying to kill time
>by taking his time with a free-kick, goal-kick etc. The problem here
>seems to be that the referees not always keep to this rule.

>In practice, this is usually done as adding time. However, many referees 
>simply stop their watch and restart after the "delay" is over.

	don't stop your watch otherwise you might forget to restart it!
i mentally tabulate minutes lost for delays and extend the end time for
no more than 7 minutes, except for unusual cases. Always ask another person
to keep time also, just in case your watch or you screw up.

tom: a player, spectator, coach and licensed ref.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Juergen Schaepker)
Subject: [RESULTS] German 2.Bundesliga round 25
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:17:45 GMT

Hi !

The results of the 2nd Bundesliga from round 25:

Wuppertal       - Duisburg         1:1
Fort. Koeln     - Mainz 05         0:2
Unterhaching    - Mannheim         2:2
Oldenburg       - Wolfsburg        4:1
Darmstadt 98    - FC St.Pauli      1:1
Braunschweig    - Homburg          2:0
Leipzig         - SV Meppen        1:0
Rostock         - Carl Zeiss Jena  0:1
Duesseldorf     - Remscheid        1:1
Osnabrueck      - Chemnitz         3:3
Stuttg. Kickers - SC Freiburg      3:1
Hertha BSC      - Hannover 96      3:0


Table
-----
		    Goals    Points

1.  SC Freiburg     58:28    38-12
2.  VfB Leipzig     39:24    34-16
3.  MSV Duisburg    36:21    33-17
----------------------------------
4.  Fortuna Koeln   30:15    32-18
5.  Hansa Rostock   33:23    28-22
6.  Waldh. Mannheim 32:32    28-22
7.  SV Meppen       20:23    28-22
8.  Wuppertaler SV  35:25    27-23
9.  Carl Z. Jena    35:32    26-24
10. Hannover 96     37:38    26-24
11. Chemnitzer FC   30:31    25-25
12. VfL Osnabrueck  36:36    24-26
13. Mainz 05        30:35    24-26
14. Hertha BSC      40:34    23-27
15. Stuttg. Kickers 32:34    23-27
16. VfL Wolfsburg   39:45    22-28
17. FC Homburg      30:37    22-28
----------------------------------
18. Braunschweig    44:49    21-29
19. FC St.Pauli     25:30    21-29
20. Darmstadt 98    26:38    21-29
21. VfB Oldenburg   36:51    21-29
22. FC Remscheid    29:46    19-31
23. Unterhaching    33:45    18-32
24. Duesseldorf     23:39    16-34

Winter break now until February 6th, 1993.

(Provisional list of) Topscorers:

Holger Aden         (Braunschweig)      19
Radek Drulak        (Oldenburg)         15
Bernd Hobsch        (Leipzig)           15
Theo Gries          (Hertha BSC)        14
Siggi Reich         (Wolfsburg)         14
Michael Hubner      (Homburg)           12
Gerrit Meinke       (Osnabrueck)        12
Michael Preetz      (Duisburg)          12
Jonathan Akpoborie  (Jena)              11
Michael Toennies    (Wuppertal)         11
Altin Rraklli       (Freiburg)          10
Martin Braun        (Freiburg)           9
Jacek Frackiewicz   (Wolfsburg)          9
Thomas Epp          (Stuttg. Kickers)    8
Daniel Jurgeleit    (Homburg)            8

News:  FC Homburg fired coach Thomale.
       Aden left Braunschweig for a transfer fee of 900000 DM to Bochum.

BTW if you want all my soccer-related postings via E-mail,
just drop me a note.


Bye

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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Belgian League results. round 16
Date: 14 Dec 1992 06:52:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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League round 16
Games played 11/12, 12/12 and 13/12.

 Club Brugge   -  Anderlecht     0 - 0

 Boom          -  AA Gent        1 - 1
 Smolders         De Roover

 Lokeren       -  Beveren        2 - 2
 Van Ham          Nijskens(2)
 Lodders                    

 RWDM          -  Cercel Brugge  4 - 2
 Rubinelson       Karacic(2)
 Van Ankeren
 Kepa(2)

 Standard Luik -  Lierse SK      4 - 0
 Vervoort(2)
 Wilmots
 Pister

 Charleroi     -  KRC Genk       1 - 0
 Van Meir

 Lommel        -  Waregem        2 - 2
 Peeters          Vidmar
 Haagdoren        Abeels

 KV Mechelen   -  FC Luik        3 - 0
 Versavel(2)
 Van Gompel

 FC Antwerp    -  Germinal Ekeren 2 - 1
 Czerniatynski    Claesen
 Broeckaert

Table
-----                             Goals
Team                PL    PTS   For  Against
Anderlecht          16    27    38   13
Standard Luik       16    24    35   19
KV Mechelen         16    20    29   21
Waregem             16    20    44   24
AA Gent             16    20    25   16
Charleroi           16    19    30   23
Club Brugge         16    18    17   12
RWDM                16    18    26   18
FC Antwerp          16    17    28   29
Lierse SK           16    16    23   24
Beveren             16    15    18   22
Cercle Brugge       16    14    38   38
FC Luik             16    13    23   36
KRC Genk            16    12    17   18
Boom                16    10    27   46
Lokeren             16     9    17   30
Germinal Ekeren     16     8    21   40
Lommel              16     6    15   42


League Scorers (as per  14-12-92).
1. Weber (Cercle Brugge)       19 goals;

2. Malbasa (Charleroi)         12 goals;
   A.Vidmar (Waregem)          12 goals;

4. Kruzen (Waregem)            11 goals;
   Czerniatynski (Antwerp)     11 goals;

6. Ikpeba (FC Luik)            10 goals;
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: tma@progress.COM (Tim Atchison)
Subject: Re: English League Sucks !
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:57:26 GMT

pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.143312.13456@europa.asd.contel.com>, andy@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>|> 
>|> : you're saying! But the problem is that the most r.s.s.-ers ARE English. 
>|>   
>|> Actually this is not true.  After I completed my survey earlier this year it
>|> showed that most readers are american.
>|> 
>|> Andy
>|> 


>But did everyone answer your survey?

Does everone who reads this group post something ?
Personally, I believe the majority of people who read this group live in the US.
They may not all be native-born Americans, however.

>Per Annar

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: an3361@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Liverpool - you wankers
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:01:40 GMT

What more needs to be said about this. 


Liverpool are shite.

- A liverpool fan.



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From: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Subject: Re: Stan Bowles..whatever happend to
Reply-To: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:40:05 GMT

In article <BzAsA6.BpL@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com>, glennm@hpman010.uksr.hp.com (Glenn Mackie) writes:

>	finally the news that he requested a transfer from QPR. Whatever
>	happened to this wayward genius as I don't recall seeing him playing
>	for any other team and as far as I know he isn't connected with
>	football today. He did have a reputation as one who liked the booze
>	so maybe this proved his final downfall. I suppose he merits a
>	documentary in his own right. I can remember him playing for England
>	but I don't think he won that many caps.
>
>	Glenn Mackie

Stan Bowles played for Forest during the 79/80 season for about 15 matches
and won his first ever professional medal. A European Super Cup winners
medal in Forests' 2 legged victory over Barcelona (1-0 at home 1-1 away)
He was quoted as being very proud of it. A pity such a talented player
had so few honours to show for his career. He could have had a European
Cup winners medal as well, except that his fear of flying prevented
him from travelling with the team to the 1980 European Cup final in
Madrid against SV Hamburg (as an aside, this was the first time I'd ever
flown, having been fed up with the train to Munich the previous year)

After that he went (presumably by boat :-) to play for Tampa Bay Rowdies
in the USA, a club, I believe he is still connected with in some
capacity.

Cheers - Ian

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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: top 10 national teams
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:48:20 GMT

reds@gribb.hsr.no (Svendsen, Trygve       7-95) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.100414.5697@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>>From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
>>Subject: Re: top 10 national teams
>>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:04:14 GMT

>>andersen@s1.elec.uq.oz.au (Hans Andersen) writes:

>>>In article <1992Dec9.143606.10726@ericsson.se>, lmdck@ludvig.ericsson.se (Denmark, ole' ole') writes:
>>>|> > Well, the joking is over, no Ireland or England in the top 10. Here's my
>>>|> > - unbiassed - opinion:
>>>|> > 
>>>|> > 1) Belgium
>>>|> > 2) Brazil
>>>|> > 3) Argentina
>>>|> > 4) Fiorentina
>>>|>      ^^^^^^^^^^ -> Including the danish star player B. Laudrup
>>>|> > 5) Holland
>>>|> > 6) Italy
>>>|> > 7) Rumania
>>>|> > 8) England
>>>|> > 9) Switzerland
>>>|> > 10) Chili
>>>|> > 
>>>|> - Remember the semi-final this summer ??
>>>|>   So where is Denmark !
>>>|> 

>>>Here it is:
>>> 
>>>1)  Denmark
>>>.
>>>.
>>>.

>>>Who cares about the rest?

>>I do. And I really don't care about Denmark. They get a lot of attention these
>>days, just because they're European Champions BY LUCK! They surely weren't
>>the best playing team in Sweden, but... Goals decide matches. What was the
>>best team then in Sweden? That was - unbiased!!! - Holland.

>>If there wouldn't have been a knock out system from the semifinals on, Holland
>>would have been the Champ. They got most points (4 games played, 6 points, more
>>than all other teams). 

>>It's just the same with Peter Schmeichel being chosen the best goalkeeper in
>>the world. What a joke! He's not exactly bad, but not world class either.
>>And then Zubizareta second, and Hans van Breukelen third. Zubizareta is a
>>joke as well, whereas Hans van Breukelen is world class, together with
>>Marchegianni (or how do you spell that?) from Torino.

>Remember Italy-Switzerland mate..............

That was only one game. Remember Ajax-Torino last year? Some really remarkable
saves, which I didn't hold for possible, he performed! A very good goalkeeper!

>>To complete the posting with some current 'number 1 team' results:
>>0-0 against some pretty good countries, like Lithuania, and that other ex-
>>soviet countrie. Congratulations!

>>>Ole' Ole'

>>Ole, ole ole ole ole, we are the champions, we are the champions!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: Steve Rohall <slr@thumper.bellcore.com>
Subject: Referee Magazine?
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:18:17 GMT

Does anybody know of a publication dedicated to soccer refereeing or,
barring that, officiating in general?  Any leads would be appreciated.

			-Steve.

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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: St. Johnstone sack Totten ??!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:16:48 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <Bz9C1K.Apu@trc.amoco.com> zamr11@hou.amoco.com writes:
>Can anyone confirm this ? 
>& any word of a replacement ?

Yup, this is true and yet another example of Chairmen having an overflated
opionion of themselves. Apparently they sacked him because of falling
attendances, as it couldn't be his track record. He brought the club from the
Second Division into the Premier and reached a Scottish Semi in that time.
They have consolidated their position in the Premier League and reached the
Skol Cup Semi this season.

As yet, no names have been mentioned as replacements.

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From: PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 13:05:29 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      Well, I am a Liverpool fan, but I don't really hate Everton so much, but
my hatred for Manchester United is very big.  I also hate Leeds a lot.
                                                           Panos
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Decker)
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:51:46 GMT

Do you think we could turn this discussion on its head, and instead discuss
which teams you CHEER when the half-times are being read out? For example,
at Ipswich we used to have a little place in our hearts for Colchester. We
also used to support Cambridge until they became a promotion rival last
season!

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Subject: SAO PAOLO V BARCA
From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:52:40 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology



the result from the world club championship played yesterday in tokyo...

SAO PAOLO   2 - 1   BARCELONA
rai (2)             stoichkov

that's all i know im afraid...











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From: boddy@plundr.enet.dec.com (Tim Moran tim@timbo.lzo.dec.com)
Subject: Re: Fans Rivalry
Reply-To: boddy@plundr.enet.dec.com (Tim Moran tim@timbo.lzo.dec.com)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: eunet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:22:22 GMT


BORO

	
	Boro fan's most hated team is Sunderland without a doubt .
	Boro don't normally mind Newcastle , however at the moment 
	they prob. hate them nearly as much as Sunderland because
	after years of saying nothing the same fans are gobbing off
	about how great Newcastle are . Where were they when they
	were struggling last year ? 

	Fair weather fans , bah humbug !!!!


	Bill
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: Sao Paulo beats Barca. YEEEEEEEEHAAA!!!!
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:41:56 GMT

niese@fwi.uva.nl (Eddie Niese) writes:

>PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU writes:

>>      I am very happy too!!!  When Barcelona loses, I am very happy!!!!!!!!!!
>>Now, how can Real Madrid catch them in the league standings??
>>      G O  R E A L  M A D R I D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>       GET REAL!!!, Madrid!

>       If REAL MADRID is so good, how come REAL MADRID didn't play
>       against Sao Paulo????!!! Crack your brains on that!!

>       I think Barca played very well, so don't give us that crap
>       about REAL MADRID. Sometimes I just think that you are not
>       soccer-fans but just supporting a club because everyone does
>       that. Don't tell me you didn't enjoy the game! It was good
>       soccer from both teams. Once again Barca showed how beautiful
>       soccer can be.... Do you love soccer or just hate Barca because
>       that team is better than REAL MADRID??? GET REAL GUYS!

>       Eddie.
>       (AJAX-supporter & Brian Roy-fan!)
>       (Brian: ieder doelpunt dat je maakt is er een tegen Louis!!!!)

This is not a true Follow-up about Sao Paolo against Barcelona. I didn't
even watch the game. I'm more interested in the signature of Eddie,
considering Brian Roy. 

A few weeks ago, when Roy was transferred from Ajax to Foggia, I wrote on
r.s.s. that Foggia hadn't got a great deal, that Roy was a bad player, and  
so on.
But now, only four weeks later, we see three wins and one draw for Foggia!
How is it possible? Could it be Brian Roy? Or just coincidence? Any Italians
out there who know?

Greetings!




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From: roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Juventus vs Liverpool
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:41:01 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC

In article <1992Dec19.101107.8117@news.columbia.edu> kyl2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kevin Y Lui) writes:
...
>Did Liverpool beat Bayern or Juventus in history???

Regarding Juventus vs Liverpool

1965-66 EC2 (1. round)   Juventus-Liverpool  1-0  0-2
1985    SuperCup         Juventus-Liverpool  2-0
1985    EC1 (final)      Juventus-Liverpool  ~39-0
        (by number of killed fans; on the field the match actually ended 1-0)

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From: massari@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Gianmario Massari)
Subject: Marco Van Basten
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:42:27 GMT




Informal News from `France Football`:


	MARCO VAN BASTEN IS NEW BEST PLAYER IN EUROPE.
	HE WON HER 3rd GOLD .                     





Bye.

			Gianmario


	You can't beat red-black army.
From: rip@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Richard Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Partick Thistle prediction
Keywords: Specific
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:46:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

I love scottish league predictions.

Oh and 2-1 to the Jags (or something).