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From: Robert.Gilchrist@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Gilchrist)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: speech and text games
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:39:01 GMT
Reply-To: Robert.Gilchrist@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/715 - The BandMaster, Vancouver BC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
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Index Number: 25465

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 On 08-17-92 Lovette Christiansen wrote to All...

 LC> Hi there.  I have a friend who has a couple of blind
 LC> brothers.  They enjoy  text adventure games but some games
 LC> don't read the text to the screen and having to go into a
 LC> screen review mode all the time can be a pain.  Does any
 LC> one know of any other sollutions?  Thanks.
 LC> Lovette

Lovette from Rob
Sorry, unless they can use Braille, which although it is very effective,
is also quite expensive, they are stuck. Not every game will work with
every Screen Reading program. Changing Screen Reading Programs gets
expensive as well. I am not really mentioning large print as your
message didn't indicate they used it. If they did, however: they
wouldn't have as many problems.
Rob

... OFFLINE 1.35 * I like my QWK OFFLINE reader!

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From: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Mike Morris)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HELP - shareware needed by a new deaf person
Keywords: Baudot TDD ANS MACH
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:48:39 GMT
Reply-To: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Mike Morris)
Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25559

I don't know all the details, but a friend who knows that I have net
access called me last night and asked me to post this help request.

Apparently a request came in to his Lions club for a software program
that will allow a PC equipped with a modem to function as a TDD
answering machine, and as a TDD.

While I myself know nothing about TDDs, I do remember from a old article
in a ham radio magazine that TDDs use a special set of tones (at lease
the early ones did), and no standard modem (i.e. a 3/12/2400 baud) will
talk to them.  So I told my friend that a special modem would probably
be needed.  this would not be a problem, if we knew where to get it.

Can somebody point us to some decent software?  My friend said that he's
looking "for a TDD version of ProComm or Telix or Boyan, plus a TDD
answering machine function."

Anyway, I'd appreciate it if all replies would be sent email as this
newsgroup has an early expiration here hence I probably won't see a posted
reply.

Please pardon any typos as it's 11:30 pm and I have a temp of 103.
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From: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Free Matter
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:40 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/56 - The Overworked Drag, Portland OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25455

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

No one has ever tried to take away women's right to vote.  They keep trying
to take away the free matter privilege.

Carol

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From: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: free matter for the
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:40:30 GMT
Reply-To: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2610/12 - Post Road Inn, Greensburg PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25475

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

     Well, what else would that motive have been except charity.  Braille
is pretty heavy, and those old talking books you probably never saw, came
in fairly hefty cases.  These were either 12 inch 33 and one-third, or 10
inch 16 and two thirds.

     They used to make tubes for braille letters, too.  I have an
impression of them as being cardboard, rather like the tubes inside paper
towel rolls.  That's weight and bulk.  Normal paper goes something like 6
pages before you have enough to have to add more postage.  The equivalent
in braille would run to a lot of pages.  There Is no such correspondence
problem in a disk.  It's really not a special medium.  We've been on this
echo for years and Nobody has ever suggested sending a letter via floppy.

     I understand the convenience argument if it comes down to figuring out
weight.  But, what I think you're really saying is that you don't want to
pay Any postage because buying stamps is a hassle rather than an economic
issue.  Well, tell me, if you can't buy a stamp easily, how you gonna buy
that tape, disk, braille paper, mailing tube--in short all those items it's
even Less convenient to buy.  After all, if you leave the postman a note and
some money, he will provide you with stamps.

      Sorry, guys.  Give me better than I'm a poor little blink.  Then, I
might be willing to be more sympathetic.  I know who I sound like <grin>.
My one saving grace is that I don't do it often--I hope--and I don't use
the echo for private netmail and then complain about freeloaders.

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: Jeff.Dubois@p666.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Dubois)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Quicklink Fax Software
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:39:26 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff.Dubois@p666.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:163/266.666 - Vision, Ottawa ON
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25468

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > Jeff, in what ways did QuickLink fall short?
 >
I did not have any success with highlight bar tracking, and the software
is a series of pull down menus that are accessed by the alt-key and
a hotkey letter.
I was able to go into review mode with enhancement on, and use it,
but I just don't have the time to write a complicated config for it,
and had it worked as good as Qedit's pull down menues, I'd be using
it right now.

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From: joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Joe Pizzirusso)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Service dogs
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:02:38 GMT
Reply-To: joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Joe Pizzirusso)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25445

\I am trying to locate information (i.e. address and phone number) for
\guide and service dogs.  Do you know if such information is stored

hey there...if you're interested,  i have an addition to the list of
service dogs...i work with this group, training wheelchair and walker
serice dogs:

Independence Dogs, Inc
146 State Line Rd
Chadds Ford, PA  19317
215 544-4616
From: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: DEAFNESS & IDENTITY
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:07:40 GMT
Reply-To: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25491

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 SC >> True empowered Deaf people dont obsess about wanting to
 SC >> hear and think that Deafness is their Idenity! SAm
 VIXEN > Since you are a hearing person anmong many hearing impaired
 VIXEN > in this forum, I would suggest that you might want to be very
 VIXEN > careful concerning judgements about what deaf people do and
 VIXEN > don't think and who and who is'nt empowered.

 PR > This goes for ANY type of disability.

 As a person with multiple handicaps, I can attest to that!

 PR > It's one thing to 'learn and be exposed to it' and 'be a
 PR > victim' of whatever the disability may be.

 Agreed, being exposed to deaf people is not at all the same thing
 as being deaf or hard of hearing yourself.

 Keepin' the faith!

 .                              Vixen

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From: Tammy.Givens@f2213.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Tammy Givens)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: ACTORS
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:06 GMT
Reply-To: Tammy.Givens@f2213.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2213 - The Chess Board, Grand Prairie TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25494

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

LG>                             What does everyone think about deaf
LG>protests against the use of hearing actors in deaf roles?  The

Hmmm...   I don't see a problem with it...  My brother is hearing
and played the role of ORIN in Children of a Lesser God.   I think
he did great!  I myself am hearing also.  My brother and I are both
interpreters.  The lead actress was deaf, she played SARAH.  She
signed mostly SEE, and the role called for ASL, so my brother
helped her put the lines into ASL.

I think that the hearing actor/actress can do a much better job if
they are involved with the deaf.  They can appreciate that the deaf
are people, and not to be treated like some "alien" from a distant
planet.  I've personally seen this happen when I'm with some of my
deaf friends.  Also, I've seen some hearing people be pretty stupid
when it comes to knowing what "deaf" means. For example,  My
husband and I were at a bookstore.  I was looking for a bible that
I hear about that was in english for the deaf.  (kinda like ASL
Format) Anyway, I ask the salesman about "so-in-so's Bible for the
Deaf" and he said, "we don't carry books in braille."  I just said
fine and walked away shaking my head..... I later found the bible.

And the girl that played sarah with my brother in Children of a
Lesser God, said that she and her friends went to a restaurant
(kinda like CHili's) and were signing as they were walking in.  The
waiter saw this and happily brought them braille menus.  She signed
thank you and promptly ran her ear over the menu.  The waiter then
realize his mistake!

So as long as the hearing actor does not make mistakes like
that.... I guess it's okay!

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From: Richard.Kuchar@f311.n270.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Kuchar)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Hello
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:13 GMT
Reply-To: Richard.Kuchar@f311.n270.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:270/311 - P/T BBS, Cleona PA
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25495

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Hello everyone. I would like to introduce myself, I am the sysop of
The P/T BBS in Cleona, PA. I have a medial disk "injury" bulge in
the L4-L5 disk since March 1991. I was off of work for over a year
and have returned back part-time the end of April 1992. I am still
experiencing pain in my back, buttocks (tailbone area) and down the
right leg into the foot. My three center toes on the right foot
have numbness and/or cramping. I also experience muscle spasms,
mostly at night when I am sleeping.

I have been through water therapy, physical therapy, nerve blocks,
every known anti-inflammatory, and other medications. Each not
helping me in becoming pain free or having the movement I used to
have.

My doctors do not want to operate do to the fear of scare tissue
creating more problems than the bulge is creating now. I have had 2
MRIs and a myelogram confirming the disk bulge and disk
degeneration too. The last time I went to my neuro-surgeon, he told
me that I will have to learn to live the pain, and know my
limitations. He says the combination of the bulge and the
degeneration I have to learn to with it.

Reading over some of the messages here, I have seen message of
'failed' surgeries, I also know of others in my local area that
have had the same. The doctor that "read" the MRIs gave me a 50%
chance of improvement from surgery, the doctor that did the
myelogram gave me a 30% chance of improvement after surgery. Their
recommendations were to just wait it out.

I also know of other people claiming that are feeling a lot better
after surgery. The question to them is "How long ?". I am not sure
which way to go.

This week I will be going for another opinion. I am hoping for some
better odds than that. I am just not sure what to do, I can bear
the pain now but it is nagging and at times pretty intense (
weather changes and increased activity ).

Over the past 18+ months I have kept my sanity, thanks to my hobby
of the BBS and taught myself some programming. I am sure if I
didn't have this hobby I would have gone over the edge.

Anyone have any insight and/or recommendations from their
experiences with disk bulges and disk degeneration ?

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From: Rick.Graham@p4.f100.n3815.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Graham)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Stuff
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Graham@p4.f100.n3815.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3815/100.4 - Unicorn BBS, Bartlesville OK
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25476

  Hello Henry,

HH> Hello all.
HH> I was just wondering if there are any people out there that believe a
HH> cure for spinal injuries is in the near future?

You mean as in your lifetime?  Noop.  I've been total quad, c4-5-6
compression fracture for almost 19 years now.  I've read the
articles about testing done on white mice up to cats now, but the
ULTIMATE ELECTRICIAN, aka God, or your higher being, wired us in a
way that was so intricate and fragile yet highly exposed to injury
and disease that I believe only He can rewire me.  I'm a realist
and that's my opinion.

Rick

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From: Bonnie.Snyder@f93.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Bonnie Snyder)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: tinytalk
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:39:55 GMT
Reply-To: Bonnie.Snyder@f93.n128.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:128/93 - CSDB BBS, Colorado Springs CO
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25472

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In reference to making a driver for the Disney Sound Source, Eric Bohlman said:
 > It's possible, though you'd need to buy Monologue for Dos
 > from First Byte  (about $85 at discounters).  I'd need to
 > slightly revise one of my drivers to  work with it, but I
 > have played around with it.

Could you please explain why one would need Monologue?  I tested it
out at one time in its early release and found it dismal, to say
the least!

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From: ronald%uhunix.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU (Ron Amundson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Disorder called "ME"?
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:02:28 GMT
Reply-To: ronald%uhunix.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU (Ron Amundson)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25444

Does anyone recognize a disease with the acronym M.E.?  It was
described to me (no pun intended) as a "neurological disease of the
immune system."  That obviously doesn't make sense, but ME might be
a real thing anyway.  There is also supposed to be an "ME
Society."  Any ideas?

I was told that ME has recently been found to be related to Post
Polio Syndrome.  This is not absolutely reliable information -- it
comes from a friend-of-a-friend.  (The Folklore people call them
FOAFs - Friend-of-a-Friends.)  But I'd like to check it out, just
in case.  Post Polio is my own personal hobby.

Cheers,

Ron
From: sbill@infmx.com (Bill Stackhouse)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RSDS, Sympathectomy, and amputation
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:25:25 GMT
Reply-To: sbill@infmx.com (Bill Stackhouse)
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
X-Fidonet: Chronic Pain Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25435

Jim has asked about how to request an elective amputation and I have
had experience with this. Sad to say that most doctors will not discuss
this as an alternative as long as keeping the leg is not life threating.
I found that you have to beat the pavement and keep asking. Don't be
afraid to ask outside of the area where you live. Talk to people in
the ethics department at hospitals and medical centers for references
to sympathetic doctors. Once you find a doctor, be prepared to be
asked to talk to mental health people and other doctors. Also be
prepared for things to take awhile. If you are dedicated, you will be
successful.

Bill
From: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Disorder called "ME"?
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:29:55 GMT
Reply-To: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25448

Ron Amundson asks:
> Does anyone recognize a disease with the acronym M.E.?  It was
> described to me (no pun intended) as a "neurological disease of the
> immune system."  That obviously doesn't make sense, but ME might be
> a real thing anyway.  There is also supposed to be an "ME
> Society."  Any ideas?

"ME" stands for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis which is another name
for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).  CFS is more often used
in the United States where in other countries, ME is more
often used.

Bill
From: MYERS@gamma.is.tcu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Mac and downloading files
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:02:51 GMT
Reply-To: MYERS@gamma.is.tcu.edu
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25446

I am very new to working with E-Mail and BBS.  I own a Macintosh SE.
Is there anyone that can tell me the steps I'd need to take to upload
and download files?  I also need to know what to do after I receive the
file.  How do I run the files?
From: VFOAO073@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Harry Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jaron Lanier, Virtual Reality Pioneer at CSUN Conference
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:27:24 GMT
Reply-To: VFOAO073@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Harry Murphy)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25439

                   Jaron Lanier, Virtual Reality Pioneer,
                           at CSUN Conference

(California State University, Northridge - CSUN, November 5, 1992).
Jaron Lanier, who coined the term, 'Virtual Reality' in 1984 will
present a three-hour session, "Q and A with Jaron Lanier," as a
part of CSUN's Eighth Annual, International Conference, "Technology
and Persons with Disabilities," on March 17, 1993 at the Los Angeles
Airport Marriott Hotel between 1:15 and 4:15 PM.  Lanier is the
Founder of VPL Research, Inc.  He currently holds the title of
Chief Scientist of that same organization.

The full conference extends from Wednesday, March 17 through
Saturday, March 20, 1993.  The 1992 conference drew 2,200 participants
from almost every state and 22 foreign countries, 300+ speakers
and 102 exhibitors.

Other sessions on Virtuaal Reality include a demonstration of he
"Barrier-Free Wheelchair Design" project (VA Hospital, Hines, IL),
and a panel led by Walter Greenleaf of Greenleaf Medical Systems and
Ben Delaney, Publisher, CYBEREDGE JOURNAL.

The cost of attending the entire conference is $375.  The cost of
the single session with Jaron Lanier is $75.

For further information:

Dr. Harry Murphy
California State University, Northridge
18111 Nordhoff Street - DVSS
Northridge, CA 91330
Phone:   818 885 2578
FAX:     818 885 4929
EMAIL:   VR@VAX.CSUN.EDU
From: Linda.Lindsey@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Lindsey)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Small planes w hand contr
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:48 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Lindsey@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25499

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

I have the name of one of our former SCI patients who has gotten
his pilot's license.  He does use had control.  He said you  can
reach him by phone  (205-925-0429) work/  or (205-629-6848) home.
Terry said you can probably reach him easier at his work number.
If you want to write him he is at 4 Lynwood Dr., Odenville, AL
35120.   His name is Terry Capps.

 # Origin: ADAnet(tm) NetHub Birmingham, Alabama (205)854-9074  (94:94/1)

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From: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: PC or Mac -- What do I buy?
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:17:43 GMT
Reply-To: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25436

I agree with your analysis that more is available on a PC
platform.  I would add to that a consideration of any applications
your friend may already be familiar with.  Learning to use
applications with adaptive interfaces only exaserbates the learning
curve.  I would want to be clear on how my friend likes to work --
text, icons, etc.

As for voice input, Dragon isn't the only game any more, and that's
probably good for everyone.  Also check out the new recognition
system from Kurzweil.

Good luck.
From: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: DEAFNESS & IDENTITY
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:07:12 GMT
Reply-To: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25488

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 DG > Vixen,

 Yes?

 DG > your name seems rather appropriate, as I haven't see/heard
 DG > someone quite so politely yet thoroughly slammed as your name
 DG > imples you capable of.

 Well, I have had my days! I suspect, that in this case, you allude
 to my post in response to Sams missive concerning deafness and
 identity Etc.

 Please understand, my intent was not to "Slam" Sam, but to strongly
 object to his idea that deaf people are made or identified by their
 deafness.

 DG > I'm new to this echo, and somewhat shamed by the remarks
 DG > made by a hearing person.

 Well, I don't wish Sam to be ashamed of his remarks, but rather I
 would want him to know that his idea that deaf people are made or
 identified by their deafness is among the worst kind of stereotyping
 and fallacy. Deaf and hard of hearing people are as individual as
 hearing people. Being part of Deaf culture or sharing the common
 experience of being hearing impaired does not in itself, identity us
 as separate individuals, which we certainly are.

 DG > I am glad to say that my position, as well as other hearing
 DG > people I know, DO NOT correspond to the one you slammed.

 Well again, my intent was not to "slam" Sam but most certainly to
 object. I suspect that Sams intentions are well meant if not fully
 correct.

 DG > I have to agree, hearing dis/ability is a CONDITION, not an
 DG > ethnicity.

 Yes, a person of any ethnicity may be deaf or hard of hearing.

 DG > If you tried to nail my ethnicity down, you'd be decieved my
 DG > the last name AND by my appearance.

 I understand. I have a rather French or English sounding Surname
 but my ethnic background is Celtic.

 DG > Just putting in my two cents....-Dave

 Well, I am glad that you did. I hope that you will always feel free
 to do so!

 Keepin' the faith!

 .                           Vixen

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