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From: rizzi@netcom.com (m. rizzi)
Subject: Re: SKI SCHOOL Alta vs SnowBird
Organization: There is no DANGER
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:55:23 GMT

mhoyt@crchh47.BNR.CA (Michael Hoyt) writes:
>Any opinions on the ski schols at Alta and 
>Snowbird?  A friend of mine will be taking his
>first lesson at one of the two.  Incidentally,
>this is his first time skiing.  How are the 
>prices, crowds, quality of the lesson etc. for
>each hill.

	Without a doubt Alta is the choice.
	Very good instructors and the terrain
	is better for novice skiers.  I brought
	two new skiers there two weeks ago
	and they had a blast...on their first day!

rizzi

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============================= rizzi@netcom.com =============================
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 where the average Negro could never hope to go and get insulted"
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From: hl0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Harold S. Lessure)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: about Raichle RX HOT Boots
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:14:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IfMySYi00WB8IU_7he
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I recently went shopping around for new boots and found a pair of the
above at an outlet store. They look old but never used.
They fit my foot very nicely and I've been thinking about them.

I like them just for their fit but they also have a built in battery
pack and heater (with no instructions). I'd be interested in hearing
from someone who has/had these boots, how they like(d) them and how the
heater feature works.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: dilmore@eastrg2.cray.com (Robert James Dilmore)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:21:42 CST
Subject: First hand Whistler report..Yee Haa! 

    After much lamenting we decided to go to Whistler/Blackcomb. The day
before we got there there was 2ft+ of snow. Second day 10cm. Third day 12 cm.
fourth day 4 cm. fifth day we almost couldn't leave because it was snowing
so much. They were expecting more than 20 cm today. All of the blue runs were
excellent on thursday, the black runs on Blackcomb were acceptable. The Blue
runs on Whistler were great but the black runs had little trees sticking up
all over the place. Saudan Couloir was open friday but was glaze. On saturday
the hill started showing ice between moguls and on the central runs. It looks
like with 2-3 ft more snow it should be up to excellent conditions. If anybody
wants more specifics give me a beep.

Robert Dilmore
dilmore@cray.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: K2 EXTREME skis for sale
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:26:21 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand - Software Development Center
Keywords: Skis for sale

In article <1k48ftINNjp@beer.protocol.zycad.com> panageas@protocol.zycad.com writes:
>... I don't
>know what you mean by a new ski tune.  Is that similar to a dealer prep charge
>for a new car?  I never heard of new skis needing a tune.

Conventional wisdom has always been than new skis must be tuned.  Often
the bases need flattening, the edges need to be bevelled and detuned at the 
tip and tail, and the skis need a good wax.  In the last couple of years the
manufacturers have been touting their factory tunes.  This usually means that
at least the bases will be flat and sometimes structured also.  The edges are
often already bevelled.  Detuning and waxing will still always need to be done
to taste; don't ski on new skis without waxing them first!

-- 
Hugh Grierson          Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand - Software Development Centre
hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz
From: nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Austria
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:10:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

eman@ppc.lpc.ethz.ch (Eric S. Maniloff) writes:

> I'm planning a road trip for early march, and we're currently planning to
> spend 5 days in Austria.  Has anyone out there been skiing in Austria,
> and if so can you recommend any areas for skiing? 

Are you kidding?  There're all sorts of areas in Austria.  Can you be more 
specific, e.g., 

 - Will you be skiing Mon-Fri or on a weekend?

 - Are you looking for off-piste thrills, or bumps, or high-speed 
boulevards?

 - Do you want economy or jet-set glamour?

 - Do you want discos or weinstuben?

 etc., etc., etc.

Ric
From: jtyl@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BJ)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Patrollers...Which Ski?
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <C14Mtp.Etq@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker) writes...
> 
>> And what do other patrollers use as their everyday work ski?
> 
> Early season: Olin Comp SL. Look for rocks. Hit 'em on purpose. "Take
>               THAT!". Gawd I hate the comp SL.
> 
> Crud days: K2 TNC
> 
> Powder days: K2 Extreme or TNC
> 
> Other: K2 Extreme or KVC depending on my mood.
> 
> Late season: Olin Comp SL. Look for rocks. Hit 'em on purpose. Man I HATE
>              the comp SL!

Well, Glen.....  I surmise that you don't have a very high opinion of
them Olin Comp SL's!  What's your opinion on the K2 Extremes?

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Xref: sparky rec.skiing:9993 misc.forsale:36225 ba.market.misc:10301
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,misc.forsale,ba.market.misc,ucd.kiosk.for_sale
Subject: Kneissl/Salomon Downhill Skis for Sale
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:54:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.skiing
Distribution: na
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu

Still have the following for sale:
Kneissl Super Innsbruck Alpine Skis Length: 185
Salomon 647 bindings
Koflach boots fit 8.5-9 (US size)
Elite RX-606 poles

$300 new, sell for best offer. 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: John_McKercher@mindlink.bc.ca (John McKercher)
Subject: Re: Red Mountain, Canada
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:00:41 GMT

> It looks like I'm going on a road trip to Red Mountain. I think I've heard
> of this place, but I need to be filled in.

I have never skied this mountain before but I have heard lots of
good things about it. I do have the trail map in front of me. There
are basically two mountains, Red mountain and Granite mountain.
Granite mountain is accessed by a 9000 ft double chair which gives
you 2800 ft of vertical. This is the side with all the challenging
runs.

> Does this place have good steep runs?  With Bumps?  Air? How about Chutes
> or out of bounds backcountry stuff?

Well...one run is listed as a 5 black diamond run (called Wherever!
- You're Lost), two are four black diamond runs and one is a three
black diamond run. Of course there are also the usual assortment
of double and single black diamond runs. Red Mountain was selected
as having some of the best steeps by readers of a Canadian ski
magazine (I forget which one)

Quoting from their brochure -

"Be aware and ski with care. Red Mountain is a beautiful yet rugged
mountain setting. The extreme runs are unmarked. Please hire one
of our qualified guides when learning new areas of the mountain.
Ski in pairs and know where your partner is at all times."

Challenging enough for ya? I read that this year they opened up a
lot of the treed areas that only the locals used to know about.

> The trip is set for Feb 4-7.  It's nice to know that this storm
> that blew hard through here is on it's way into southern Canada
> (since I think their base may be a little thin).

Just checking the paper, they have just had 16 cm of new snow. Snow
depth is 162 cm (alpine) and 72 cm at the base. Temperature is
-1. Central reservations is 1-800-663-0105 and the 24 hr snow phone
is 1-604-362-5500 (from Spokane use 1-509-459-6000)


John
  who is waiting for his 6-year old
    to master those parallel turns
      before heading for that 5 black diamond run



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From: george@windslc.seri.gov (George Scott)
Subject: Re: UTAH Beer ???
Reply-To: george@windslc.nrel.gov
Organization: Colorado State Reformatory for Young Hussies and Trollops
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:08:10 GMT

mhoyt@crchh47.BNR.CA (Michael Hoyt) writes:

>I will hopefully be returning once more to SLC to ski little cottonwood
>again this year.  I was there this December and bought some beer at
>a grocery store.  I don't remember if it took twice as long to catch
>a buzz but someone told me that UTAH beer is rated PG-13.  Something like
>half the alcohol % of beer sold in most other states.

Maybe this should be in a FAQ somewhere...

1) Some states sell 3.2% beer in grocery stores. (E.g., Colorado)

2) Some of these states sell higher % beer in liquor stores (Colorado again)

3) It ain't much higher. Standard US beers like Coors and Budweiser are
roughly 3.7%. If you think it takes you twice as long to get drunk on 3.2
as on regular Coors, you're fooling yourself.

4) There is no such thing as '6.4% beer' in the US. Certain beers (German
Dopplebocks, Belgian ales, some US microbrewery products) may be in this
range, but there is no '6.4% Budweiser'. (Anybody know the alcohol content
of stuff like Schlitz Malt Liquor?)

5) Canadian beer isn't all that much stronger than regular American. Canada
uses pct by volume, US uses pct by weight. So a 3.7%wt US beer is actually
almost 5% by volume, comparable to standard Canadians.

Disclaimer: Utah USED to sell 3.2% beer. I don't know the current status.
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: Marcie Becker <becker@osf.org>
Subject: death at Sunday River?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78DB1D80001080C@alimac2.osf.org>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 15:52:56 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:45:41 GMT

I heard a rumor that there was a skier death at Sunday River last
weekend. Can anyone supply more information?

Thank you.
From: ajdh@bnr.co.uk (Andrew J D Hurley)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for European skiing...
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:21:29 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.164.64.53

In article <1k3gj2INNk5@oich.chemeng.ed.ac.uk> geoff@chemeng.ed.ac.uk (Geoff Ballinger) writes:
>KKEYTE@ESOC.BITNET (Karl Keyte) writes:
>>Is anyone out there in a position to do something about getting a
>>'rec.skiing.europe' newsgroup set-up?  How could I request this?
>>Would any of you be interested?

>	I would be interested in having a group for european skiing (to save me
>having to wade through hundreds of posts about skiing in the USA) but I don't
>think there would be sufficient traffic to warrent it,

You never know till you try - the traffic level on rec.skiing is pretty
high and us Europeans have to do a lot of wading to find relavant
information. I would agree with Karl on a rec.skiing.europe as that would
keep the groups tightly linked which would be important.

It doesn't really bother me, but it occurs that other areas could benefit
from sub-division; eg. rec.skiing.misc, rec.skiing.namerica,
rec.skiing.australasia, rec.skiing.europe etc. Comments?



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Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: Fire proof glue.
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:18:09 GMT

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930128141137.352@phys-irc.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Brendan Brolly <PHY5JBB@phys-irc.novell.leeds.ac.uk> writes:
>Has anyone found a glue that can be used to glue wicks onto things.
>I've heard rumours of them but never come across one.
>    I know that phenoic resins would make very good glues of this
>sort but has anyone done it commercially.
>
>    Brendan

I've experimented with every high-tempeture glue I could get my hands on.
It seems that the higher the rating, the more watery the glue is.  This
leads to the wicking absorbing the glue to an extreme, thus plugging
the weave that you want to leave open for the fuel.  The glues I have
experimented with have also had a reasonably low shear point (according
to manufacturers specs.) and should fatigue in short order, leaving the
potential for wicks to fly free.  The phenoic resins are sold at any store
that sells woodburning stoves.  They use them to glue the high temperature
gaskets onto the doors.  I think you will be disapointed, as you will lose
absorbancy in the wicking.  On the other hand, if you do experiment, I'd
be interested in hearing about how it went.

-GReg Cohen
Another bit of Infinite Illusions trivia.
gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu

 
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From: Chris Wright <STA5CW@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: hourly juggling mail from rec.juggling.
X-Pmrqc: 1
Priority: normal
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:37:21 GMT
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4).
Via: uk.ac.leeds.gps1; Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:03:50 +0000

>  Other books? Kit Summers' Juggling With Finesse is very good, and equally
> all-encompassing
> --
> Daniel Mitchell = ke94002@black.ox.ac.uk = skinny bi lycra-clad furry juggler
>
>
    You're joking, aren't you? As far as giving any insight into how
to do difficult tricks, Kit Summers' book is as much use as a
chocolate teapot. The diagrams are crap- nowhere near as good as
those in The Complete Juggler.
    But I would definitely say that Summers' book is worth buying,
just for the photographs. My favourite is the one of Bela Kremo doing
a three ball cascade with one arm behind his back- one of my
favourite tricks. But don't buy this book to teach youself to juggle.
    I honestly believe that most jugglers buy juggling books because
they enjoy reading about their art (nothing wrong with that)- I don't
think any of them are really that much use for teaching oneself.

                Chris Wright, Leeds, UK.
From: koczaja@salsa.seas.upenn.edu (Donna L. Koczaja)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Robot juggling survey
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:46:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1jndluINN6f@shelley.u.washington.edu> benjamin@corona.math.washington.edu (Benjamin Schoenberg) writes:
>Mohit asked about researchers who juggle, and Phil Burt opined that MechEs were
>the best jugglers.  You may be right, Phil!  Jack Kalvan of Clockwork has a
>MechE degree, and I think he spent a year and maybe some summers working at
>IBM in New York state on some sort of juggling robot project.  I don't know
>how far they got, though.
>
>The mathematicians are pretty good jugglers too :-)
>-Ben


Well, there's hope for me yet!!  At the end of next year, I'll be getting my
degree in MechE.  My juggling skills have improved greatly (passing is my
favorite...), and I have a friend who teaches me a lot of things who once told
me I am doing things he never thought I'd be able to do.  (I guess it's because
I'm (gonna be) a MechE!!)

So, it just goes to show ya, if I can do it, ANYONE can!!

Donna  (:
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen)
Subject: Re: Robot juggling survey
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:48:44 GMT

In article <1jm8n2INN3jm@gap.caltech.edu> allenk@ugcs.caltech.edu (Allen Knutson) writes:
>I got the impression from talking to Koditschek that he had very weird
>ideas about juggling (i.e. that an experienced juggler wouldn't have). 
>I don't remember precisely what, now; one thing I do remember is that 
>in the robotics applications they were after, it was much less important 
>to be able to juggle many, than to be able to recover from really grievous 
>error. And indeed, their machine could fix situations no human could.	


I've offered again and again to teach Prof. Koditschek to juggle, but
he isn't interested. Then again, will all of his areas of interest, 
he doesn't have time.  He does however, appreciate jugglers, and even
likes to see me juggle on occation  :)

- Chuck


-- 
"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo
"I'm an engineer, not a dictionary!" - Me
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: rh@craycos.com (Robert Herndon)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Coloured Flames - FAQ answer
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:48:04 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

maize@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu (Phillip SanMiguel) writes:

>In article <1993Jan25.141653.14526@craycos.com>, rh@craycos.com (Robert Herndon) writes:
>>As a safety comment, I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND AVOIDING the
>>use of lithium perchlorate with methanol.  Lithium perchlorate
>>is a strong oxidizer; mixed with a good fuel, such as methanol,
>>one possible result is a potent and rather unstable explosive.
>>Lithium perchlorate is also likely to eat one's torch wicks up,
>>although I cannot (and will not) verify this through personal
>>experience.
>
>  I have used lithium perchlorate in methanol as a torch fuel.  
>I also do not recommend it from a standpoint of safety.  It does eat
>wicks up, also the screws and metal sheathing and then the dowel
>wood underneath.  
>  But lithium perchlorate, itself, is not terribly unstable.  Organic
>perchlorates are  --  but they can't be formed just by mixing lithium 
>perchlorate and methanol (for example.)  
>  Methanol, by itself, burns with a pale, wimpy blue flame.  With
>the addtion of lithium or sodium perchlorate the flame becomes
>very bright and large.  I think tiny deposits of the metal perchlorates
>do form on the wick during burning and explode in sparks.  

  My concern here is not organic perchlorates being formed.
Perchlorate and any fuel (e.g., sodium perchlorate, potassium
perchlorate, or lithium perchlorate, and aluminum or charcoal or
sulfur or antimony trisulfide, ...) in a simple mechanical mixture
is usually explosive.  A very scary scenario for me is seeing some
juggler, unacquainted with perchlorates, dumping an ounce or so
into a bottle of methanol, stirring with a torch head, and having
the mixture go up.  It does not seem improbable that the result
would be glass shrapnel and a large cloud of dispersed methanol,
which might then ignite to form a large fireball.  Not someplace
I want to be...  Nor do I want this to happen to anyone.

  Methanol alone, due to its high vapor pressure and low flash
point, has caused many accidental lab fires/explosions and fatalities
due to accidental ignition.  Mixing it with a powerful oxidizer,
without careful observation of safety procedures, thorough knowledge
of quantities and ratios, and a careful review of the pyrotechnics
literature, strikes me as exceptionally dangerous.

  Mixing perchlorates with fuel for fireworks is a procedure done
very cautiously, and in small quantities.  It should never be done
in a glass or metal container, and should not be done without full
face protection, heavy clothing, and gloves.  Strong oxidizers, and
perchlorates are among the strongest, should not be handled casually
or lightly.  Whether we intend to make fireworks or not, we should
be no less cautious with mixtures as powerful and potentially as
dangerous.

Robert Herndon
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: vince@endor.uucp (Vincent Darley)
Subject: Re: Help!
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:42:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.024149.10264@ncsu.edu> mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar) writes:
>
>>> Someone suggested making an info file of common or
>>> attractive site-swaps.
>
>info file on site-swaps!! aha! aha! I would love to have something like this
> 
>So if some one who has good knowledge (I know lot of u r reading it right  
>now!!) of site-swaps  (I have some but that is inadequate), I will be
>willing to help them compile interesting site-swaps. I have some very
>good ideas about how we can do this. please volunteer and I think we
>will have something quite useful for all of us 
>(I promise to do my fair share)
>
I have a decent knowledge and reasonable competence at most site-swaps
with 3,4,(5?) balls and used to play around with a lot of multiplex
siteswaps, and would be happy to compile a list of interesting ones.
I'm a bit short of experience with using moocow/ftp'ing etc., but I'm
sure someone could help me with that.
Any ideas ?

Vince ............. vince@das.harvard.edu

ps. Any more news on the Mac juggling program ?


		***** **** *** ** *	**
		*	  Vince		 *
		**     * ** *** **** *****
From: rmurphy@usc.edu (Bob Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Cirque de Soleil
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:24:42 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

First of all, I'd like to thank all who responded to me about
Cirque de Soleil.

Second of all, I'd like to say AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!
I had the week wrong!  I just found out that Cirque de Soleil
was on the Tonight Show last night(Wed. 1-20-93).  I, unfortunately,
missed it.  At least I know that I can now see them in Las Vegas!

                 Bob Murphy (rmurphy@aludra.usc.edu)

p.s. Would anybody like to give a review of last night's show?
From: thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ((thomasl))
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: programs for the mac
Keywords: mac, animation
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:19:00 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1993Jan27.142012.11278@Princeton.EDU> biz@soil.Princeton.EDU writes:
>I also would like such information!!
>
>Dave Bisignano
>biz@soil.princeton.edu

ok, dave, here's the info. which i have gathered:
there aren't any
phil says "many people" are currently attempting to port one or
another of the popular programs (juggle-pro, xjuggle, whatall i am not
sure) to that platform, but currently there is nothing.
ed confirms this: there aren't any.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling,uw.general
From: sdfinuca@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Sean Finucane)
Subject: Prop vendor coming to UW
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: kw
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:43:38 GMT

Darren Bedford of Semcycle in Toronto will be coming to the UW Juggling
Club meeting next Monday, Jan 25 '93 from 6-7pm.  In the Blue Activity Area
of the PAC.

He sells everything jugglable from balls to chickens, has a great
selection of unicycles (ask me in advance so he can bring them)
and various other miscellania.

For more info contact me here or at 884-3473

Sean.

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