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From: seanmcd@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:14:07 -0300
Distribution: comp
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

>     One interesting thing to note: this week MacWEEK released the retail
> prices for the Apple lineup as it will be next Monday, and the IIvi is
> not on the list. Apparantly those rumors about the IIvi being sold only
> overseas was correct.
> 
> 
> --
> -Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
>   "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
> 			  -Admiral Stockdale-

Well...what are they?? Can't wait until Monday, you know!!
From: jh61+@andrew.cmu.edu (John C. Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: mac EPROM burner
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:41:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.geowbvO00WBKI9_W8M
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,
 
Has anyone out there ever used an EPROM burner that interfaced with a Mac?
(That is, apart from any serious serial-port hacks.)  If so, I would be
very interested in learning how it performed, who manufactured it, how it was
purchased (i.e. mail order, electronics store, etc.), and how much it cost.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
-John
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Price Corrections are dumb (was : QUADRA 700 FOR SALE)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 10:55:41 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

dohle@vax2.concordia.ca (Gordon Dohle), who happens to be from Organization:
Concordia University, writes:

GD> People will pay MORE than the .edu price?? Really! I would 
GD> expect that reasonable prices for used equipment is at least 
GD> 20% below the .edu price and that 'street'prices for new equiipment 
GD> are very close to the .edu. 

Up until the last couple of months, it was not so that good street prices were
anywhere near as low as .edu prices.  I don't know about now.

However, that's not the point.  What good does proclaiming that some used
price is ridiculous compared to an .edu price, when nobody involved in the
purchase has access to .edu prices?  Might as well claim that "Well, at the
Apple employee store, you can get that IIvwxyz w/51" HighRes and 2001 key
keyboard for only $500--so why would I pay anywhere near $3000 for it _used_?"
 Of course, damned few people can shop at the Apple employee store.  And
you'll notice that Apple employees realize that, and don't keep popping up
with nonsensical claimers about low prices that are unavailable to virtually
the entire world.

AND DAMNED FEW PEOPLE ON USENET CAN SHOP AT EDUCATIONAL SITES.  If you're
eligible for the Apple educational prices, go for it!  But don't be like most
of Fidonet modem buyers and assume that everyone is eligible for the special
price just because you are, then flame anyone who dares to offer used
equipment at near .edu new prices.  You seem to have such a narrow view of
life.  Try dropping out and moving away from campus for a couple of years.  Go
out and find a real job and pay real prices for computer hardware at real
dealers.  Become ineligible for the .edu prices for awhile, then start reading
the for sale newsgroups.  Then decide you want to sell something.

Then come back and try to say with a straight face that good used prices are
20% below some mythical "special interest group" deal that neither you nor the
buyer has any access to.

Yes, people who have absolutely no access to educational prices are more than
willing to pay a fair price for used equipment, and often, that fair price is
above educational prices.  It's amazing what goes on in the real world.

For most people:

Educational price==price available at a dealership on Mars

So go forth into the real world, and never darken your parents' basement again


--Adam--
who's posting from Columbus, OH, where if you don't know someone who either
goes to or works for Ohio State (my wife, for example) and therefore has
access to educational pricing, you must be in a coma
 
--  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: heeschv@cognos.com (Brian VanHeesch)
Subject: LOOKING FOR Monitor Advice
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:18:22 GMT

I am considering purchasing a 13"+ color monitor

Constraints include: $ < 600
                     works with IIsi inny video
                     won't nuke me in a year
                     quality

any info to this newsgroup or account would be fine.
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 13:31:42 CET
From: Wolfgang Mayer <8827268@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Acceleration of Rockets




qquit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mark@hsi.com (Mark Sicignano)
Subject: Re: stylewriter & grayscale
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:42:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.111108.43584@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Christopher Gunn) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.231815.1055@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Joshua Mirsky) writes:
>> 
>>Is it possible to printimages in grayscale with a stylewriter. What additional
>>software or hardware is needed?
>
>You need Postscript rasterizer software (Freedom of the Press, T-Script,
>etc.), a *lot* of disk space, incredible patience and relatively
>low standards.  I've done a few gray-scale images using T-Script Basic

...or you can get WonderPrint from Delta Tao Software, which requires little
disk space, a little bit of patience and only $38 from Mac's Place.

I just picked it up and I've used it a little.  It seems to work fine
with all of my software, but I'm having trouble using it from WriteNow.
It does work with SuperPaint 3.0, Claris Resolve, TeachText, and a few
other applications, and it worked great for me.

Somebody told me that they were using it with ClarisWorks (I think) and 
it worked fine for them.

-mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: PB100 memory installation directions
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:51:38 GMT

luigi@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Luigi Semenzato) writes:
>Many thanks for the instructions and one important question: if this is
>done properly, will it be possible to tell that the machine has been 
>opened?  --Luigi

Yes.  It'll have extra RAM in it.   :?)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gll@syl (Gary Lindgren)
Subject: Experiences with Oubound Macs
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:27:31 GMT

I've been using a Outbound Mac laptop for about 7 months. Overall, I'm very
please with it and I've been pleased with the support I've recieved from
Outbound's technical support.  The one area I am very interested in getting
feedback on is using the Mac on a network.  I'd like to be able to use the
machine on the network to make moving files between my desktop Mac and my
laptop easier.  I've tried Outbounds SCSI eliminator and, frankly, it just
doesn't work.  I've never been able to make it work!  I'd like to be able to
connect the Outbound to one of our Asante boxes that allows the laptops to
connect to Ethertalk on the SCSI port.  Unfortunately, the Outbound doesn't
have a SCSI port!  I've tried many things, buhave note been able to make it
work.

I'd apprieciate any comments people about the Outbound and any suggestions
on how I might be able to use it on a network.

TIA,

Gary Lindgren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Anyone have extra 256K SIMMs?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:05:53 GMT
Keywords: SIMMs

In article <1bl739INNr6d@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) writes:
> I was wondering if anyone out there has any extra 256K SIMMs that they
> would like to sell for a reasonable price.

Jeeze, hasn't everyone?  I must have twenty or thirty lying in a drawer
somewhere.  I know my local Mac dealer has hundreds in a box.

I suspect you can find some a bit closer than New Zealand, though... :-)

-- 
Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz   Twisted pair: +64 4 477 2116
BIX: brucehoult                 Last Resort:  PO Box 4145 Wellington, NZ
"Cray's producing a 500 MIPS personal computer with 256MB RAM and 8 GB
hard disk that fits in your pocket!"   "Great!  Is it PC compatible?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: powellb@samwise.colorado.edu (Brian Powell)
Subject: Mac IIx upgrade
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:21:45 GMT

	With all of this discussion about boosting the IIsi, I began wondering.
If I were to put a 50 Mhz '030 in place of the 16 version in the IIx  and change
the crystal to (100 Mhz?)  would this work or would it completely screw up the
buses (Nubus), the SIMMS, etc.  Also, would the 50 Mhz CPU have to be matched
with a 50 Mhz FPU?  Has anybody tried any such undertaking?  Thanks.

							--Brian

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From: cfejm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (John Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 25 mhz IIsi followups...
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:56:57 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University


The idea, of course, was intriguing.  Not of a daring soul, however, I'm
waiting for successful reports (or horror stories). 

Have others done the modification?  Was it successful?

Thanks,

John

-- 
John Miller
Music Theory
Eastern Illinois University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Transceiver on Quadra ethernet
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<Bvv5A8.7qA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:33:20 GMT

Pete> == Pete Resnick <resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu> 

 Pete> But why in the heck did they go with a plug their own silly
 Pete> 15-pin setup instead of using the 15-pin plug that everyone and
 Pete> their mother uses? Can you say "profit"? ;-) Of course, not just
 Pete> for them, but for third-party vendors too.

There are two reasons for this:

(1) power requirements.  The thin-net and 10BASET adapters don't need
external power because of the signal levels, but a thicknet port would
need (or draw) more power.  I'm sure this was being used in planning for
portable machines, as was

(2) backplane real-estate.  The LW IIg and Q700 have VERY LITTLE room to
add ports, especially since they're constrained to the LW II and IIc[xi]
form factors.  The mini-15 port fits much better than a thicknet port.

The thin-net version is also supposed to be self-terminating, which
sounds cool (having had to debug thin-net problems :-).  This would of
course preclude using a "normal" connector.

 Pete> Does anyone know if there is some sort of converter that will let you
 Pete> use any old transeiver, or is friendlynet something wierd that won't
 Pete> use a standard transeiver?

The power isn't there.  You could buy an AAUI (Apple AUI) to DB-15 AUI
adapter, but that would require external power.  Only do this if you
have to connect to a thicknet drop cable for some reason.  (It's silly
to buy a transceiver to connect to a transceiver :)

The Asante adapters are cheaper than Apple's, and as good or better I
would guess.
--
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<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   | ``[Y]ou don't cure bad art by locking it all up
System Administrator, EFF | in one museum, you cure it by throwing tomatoes
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt)
Subject: Re: Whinning SE-30 driving me nuts
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:15:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.201240.7369@cerritos.edu>, jacobs@cerritos.edu writes:
> 
> I have a problem with my SE-30. It makes a high pitched whine that is very
> anoying. It happens about 50% of the time. Any ideas? It is really driving me
> nuts and I want to get it fixed.
> 
> Also, if this is something that is coverd under the warranty, can I get it
> fixed locally or do I have to send it to apple it cupertino?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Karl
>  P.S. could it be the power supply?
>  
> ________________________________________________________________________________Karl Jacobs - Jacobs@cerritos.edu
> 
> 

Hi Karl,

You are describing a failure on the Analog Board, common to all Mac 128K,
512K, 512Ke, Plus, SE or SE/30 models with older, factory-stock analog
boards. Later boards for the Plus and earlier, or received as service
replacement stock, have beefed-up components that are somewhat less prone
to this failure type. They introduced some improvements in the SE and SE/30
analog boards, and later eliminated the problem with the design used in the
Classics.

If allowed to continue, a later and more serious symptom will be complete
loss of video. Another possible outcome is that the connector to the analog
board from the CRT can overheat, melting the connectors together and
requiring replacement of both the analog board -and- the CRT. *Get it fixed
ASAP.*

Two solutions for you.

A. It might be bad connections on the flyback transformer, which is located
on the Analog Board (see below). Failed solder joints may cause this and
other components to overheat. The connections on the transformer can be
re-soldered as a repair. This is a non-approved repair procedure as far as
Apple is concerned, and will void Warranty or AppleCare coverage, but some
shops will do it for a labor-only charge. Maybe $20 to $60 bucks.

B. Replace the analog board (video board along the left side of the SE/30,
and attached to the power supply). This is the Apple-approved procedure. If
you have a current AppleCare Service Contract (possibly) or are still
somehow under warranty (Probably not, since the SE/30 was discontinued some
time ago), this repair is covered like any other failure, for free.
Otherwise, expect to pay about $150 to $200 at a dealer.

You can take the system to any authorized Apple dealer for service. (for
plan "A" above, other computer repair centers may be able to, and more
willing to, do the work. You must decide if it is worth the risk of voiding
warranty or AppleCare coverage. If you have neither, try plan "A" first.)
Don't try to send it to Apple, as they don't generally take repairs off the
street.

Jay Brandt
Apple Certified Service Technician, and former Service Manager.
Repairing Macs since the 128K Mac was
new.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: SE/30 won't boot
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:40:06 GMT

The three-tone startup noise is not necessary indicative of a hardware
failure.  Usually, but not exclusively.
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| peterco@eff.org | Heck!  My employer doesn't even know I'm here! |
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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Which 3-button mouse to buy - Mouseman or A3 mouse?
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 13:41:43 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


hermens@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Leonard Hermens -- EECS) writes:

>   MouseMan comes with software to program the keys application-specific.
>   However, I got one of the first versons of the software and it diabled
> itself constantly. I hope this has been fixed now.

It hasn't been. In fact, the current MouseKey version is still 1.0.
Logitech does not want to acknowledge that the problem with the mouse
losing its programming is theirs, even though I've seen many users complain
about it, both here on Usenet and on Compuserve. In my opinion Logitech
pays a lot more attention to their PC products, where their market is
much larger than their Mac market.

Other than this annoying problem the MouseMan is a great mouse.

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
From: ldh@svl.cdc.com (Lawrence D. Hare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quadra 700 - Mac Performance Comparison FAQ ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:51:03 GMT
Organization: Control Data Systems
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6F8636B5F010456@ethelred.svl.cdc.com>
X-XXDate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 09:50:35 GMT

Very nice, I think? I have been offered the opportunity to upgrade my
venerable IIfx to a Quadra 700. I wanted a 950, of course, but a 700
sounds nice.

But is it really nice? Does anyone have any experience to offer? Should I
wait for a 900 series system, at least until the 900 series prices drop
somewhat? I run the latest and greatest OS with the most gruesome
collection of inits and whatnots. MPW is my development base, lots of
network work, in all senses. Am I likely to find myself spending days
suffering through init shuffles and application analysis while making a
change such as this?

Also - and I should know this but I forget - is there a hardware
performance comparison sheet, a data sheet if you will, for Macintosh
hardware. I checked news.answers for a FAQ but I cannot locate one
currently resident anywhere. I wonder just what the performance
difference of a 700 is over a IIfx, and a 900/950 over a 700.

Thanks for any help.
--
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Consultant             Voice: (408) 496 4339 - C/N [234] 4339
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: giuseppe@pical3.uucp (Giuseppe Fedele)
Subject: Request to upgrade Macintosh Quadra 700
Organization: Dep. Engeneering of Information - University of Pisa -
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:05:50 GMT




I have read the article regarding the upgrade of IIsi to 25MHz.
I have a Macintosh Quadra 700. It is possible to upgrade this to
33 MHz. If yes please illustrate me the procedure.

Please response on Internet address.

Regards.

Giuseppe

Giuseppe Fedele          E-Mail: giuseppe@iet.unipi.it
Dipartimento di Ingegneria dell'Informazione
Univerita` di PisA
Via Diotisalvi, 2  -  Pisa  -  Italy
Tel. + 39 (0)50 568 511/654
Fax. + 39 (0)50 568 522
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB Modem usage
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:15:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>How can a PowerBook's modem be used from a pay phone?
>
>From a cellular phone?
>
>By the way, what happened to the proposal for comp.sys.mac.powerbook?

1) A. Legally, some pay phones have phone jacks on the lower left side
you can plug standard phone cable from your machine to the the jack.
This cable is available in most consumer electronics stores.
   B. Otherwise, you can take the cable running from the hand set to the
phone, cut it and find the red and green wires.  You can also get these
by unscrewing the cover of the receiver and pulling out the red and
green wires, although you usually can't unscrew the cover on pay 
phones.  Once you have those wires you can either touch them to the
center two contacts in the phone port on the mac and tape 'em down
or slip them into a standard phone plug that you can also get in
most consumer electronics stores, and then plug it into your mac.

2) There is a commercially available hardware/software packet that
is available, or you could dismantle it and look for the the same
red and green wires.  In the latter case, I hope you have fantastic
error correction  :)

3) It was massively shot down.

              Luck,

                 -- Nick
  

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From: stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:12:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware

>	I was just looking through some issues of MacWorld magazine and
>I ran across an interesting Powerbook ad.  If you have access to the
>July 92 issue (the one with the Quadra 950 on the cover) look at the
>apple ad on page 88.  Is that Steve Wozniak (sp?) holding a powerbook? -
>it sure looks like him!
>

Yes, and that is his real son sitting next to him.  Around the South
Bay, we were treated to billboard-size renditions...

===============================================================================
Steve Witten                    stevewi%hpspd@hplabs.hp.com
Network Test Division           ...!hplabs!hpspd!stevewi
Hewlett-Packard Co.             stevewi@hpspd.spd.hp.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mtolber@erenj.com (M. Tolbert)
Subject: Init Conflicts with PowerBook 170s
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: ER&E
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:12:39 GMT

Fellow PowerBook Users:

     Has anyone experienced any strange INIT conflicts with the PowerBook,
particularly the PowerBook 170?  We've come across two so far:

     *  Earlier version of Softwriter's VersionTerritory Updater init 
        will cause the PowerBook to freeze when you bring it out of
        sleep mode.  Note that the latest version of Updater fixes
        this problem.

     *  DOS Mounter (version unknown) seems to cause system crashes 
        with the PowerBook when it tries formatting high-density
        hard disks.

I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences--please post on 
comp.sys.mac.hardware so that others can learn too.  Thanx in advance!