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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Can DCL programs execute 'other' commands ?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:49:28 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan26.133712.18548@tomcat.rd.ray.com>, frank@tomcat.rd.ray.com (Frank Sandy) writes:
=In article <1jvfpnINNjtu@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
=>You put $ signs only at the beginnings of DCL commands, not in front of lines
=>which are data for an image.  In your case, you want:
=>	$ MAIL
=>	READ 1
=>	READ 2
=>	EXIT
=
=	Carl's reply is generally correct, but it won't work well for 
=programs like mail that may need to display more than one screen between 
=READ commands.  An indeterminate number of blank lines would be needed 
=between the READ 1 and READ 2, etc.

The environment in which the procedure was to execute wasn't specified.  If
its output is to something other than a terminal, then the blank lines aren't
necessary.  I simply took the commands the person who posted the question
apparently wanted to execute and modified his script so it would work.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: odonovan@inmos.co.uk (Brian O'Donovan)
Subject: Re: SENDing an entire MAIL FOLDER ?
Reply-To: odonovan@inmos.co.uk (Brian O'Donovan)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:22:09 GMT

In article <1k2kohINNs62@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <01GTXLEOVOIQ9GVN23@SNYBUFVA.BITNET>, TARKA10@SNYBUFVA.BITNET (Mark Tarka) writes:
>>I CHECKED:
>>On-line help
>>On-line documentation
>>Local comp center staff
>>
>>Can I send all 30 messages in a single mail folder to a user at
>>another node, and if so, how?
>>

Try this

  Create a new directory (say [.MAIL_TO_GO]) then do
  $MAIL
  SELECT folder
  COPY/ALL newfolder [.MAIL_TO_GO]file
    (mail will tell you that [.MAIL_TO_GO]file does not exist and ask
     you if you wish to create it.  Tell it Y.)
  EXIT

  [.MAIL_TO_GO]  will now contain file.MAI and possibly a load of
  MAIL$<mumble>.MAI files.  If you were to do a SET FILE [.mail_to_go]file
  from within mail, and a DIR/FOL you would see the folder `newfolder'.
  Now you need to send the whole package of mail files somewhere.

  Create a saveset of all the files in [.MAIL_TO_GO] and send the
  saveset by mail.   ... but it's not as simple as that ...

  A saveset cannot be mailed as-is (32256 byte record too long...) so ...

  compress the saveset using Zip.  It has a mode which preserves VMS file
  attributes:

    ZIP "-V" file.zip file.sav

  uuencode the zip file

    uuencode file.zip file_zip.uue

  now MAIL the file.uue file.  If it is enormous youmay want to split
  it into chumnks (e.g. with VMS_SHARE).

  at the other end it will 
  need to be reassembled, uudecoded, unzipped and then all the mail files 
  extracted.

  Once the mail files have been extracted e.g. into a [.MAIL_TO_GO] directory
  at the receiving end; the recipient can go into mail and say
    SET FILE [.MAIL_TO_GO]file
    SELECT folder
  and see all the messages

  If they then want to move the messages to a folder and/or file within their
  usual mail directory they can do that.  Anyway, the messages should still
  look the same as when you recieved them.

  I hope this is of some help.  Please excudse (!) the typos.

    Cheers,

      'o-Dzin

  PS: I've just thought, all this assumes that the recipient is a VMS
  system.  If that's not the case than I've no idea... 

  PPS:  If you don't have Zip, UUencode and Vms_Share I can point you
  in the general direction of Hunter Goatley, who has such things on
  his file server.

  PPPS:  I've not done this, at least not until now.  I've tested it
  and it works.  You never know, though, there might be a simpler
  method...

--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen)
Subject: Activating a sharable image 
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:55:30 GMT

Does someone on the net know how to call subroutines in a sharable image
after a lib$find_image_symbol call?  What can one do with the the symbol
value returned by that call?  An example in FORTRAN and/or C would be
greatly appreciated.

Jim (xue@cfaft5.harvard.edu)
From: CTANSKI@ONONDAGA.BITNET (Chris Tanski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Postscript Printing
Date: 20 Jan 93 15:31:54 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I should correct myself. I meant a LaserWriter printer not a StyleWriter. How
do I print a ps file directly from my VAX acct. to a LaserWriter? Again,
please reply directly. Thanks.

Chris Tanski

ctanski@onondaga.bitnet   OCM BOCES
captanski33@snycorva.cortland.edu   SUNY Cortland
ctanski@nyx.cs.du.edu   Denver University
ag244@yfn.ysu.edu   Youngstown State University

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Public Domain....
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:07:06 GMT


In article <90FA156D4F7F003025@EGFRCUVX>, SABRY@SHEBIN.EG (Sabry Kotob El-Ganzory) writes:
>Welcome All..........
>Please,I want ask you of:-
>How I can I get these PUPLIC DOMAIN benchmarks? or least the e-mail of Digital
>Review's?
Which PD benchmarks?  The code or the results?  For which machines?  Please be
specific.

As far and Digital News & Review, I suspect that their code is quite huge, more
than I would want to E-Mail.  And what do you want?  The CPU stuff, their X
benchmarks, the TP stuff or something else.  Also, not all the benchmarks they
run are theirs.

Please be specific.
1
2
3
4
5 ...
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From: SYS@ALBION.BITNET ("Its just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Formatting MFM drives on MicroVax II.  How?
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello,

        I have a MicroVax II and need to format an MFM drive (Seagate ST251-1
or RD32 equivelent.)  I took the drive ST251-1 from an old PC.  I've been led
to understand that the RQDX33 controller will handle such a drive.  Is this
correct?

        As I am short on documentation for this beast, could someone tell me
how to format an RD32 drive on the MicroVax II.

Revelent information:

BA23 Cabinent
RQDX33 Controller
RX50 Dual floppies

Emulx SMD controller (not sure what model/version #.  If someone knows where I
                        can look on the card, I will forward that information)
CPU module (Again, not sure of the specific.  It is a MVII, *not* a MV2000.
                again, if someone will tell me where to start looking for CPU
                model, I will forward the information)


Thanks for any help.  If you need more information, please let me know.
I've provided all the info I can think of.

Jason Ruiter


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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: V5.5-2 BACKUP-E-NOMSG
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:14:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.153028.307@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au>, matthews@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au writes:
> Since upgrading to v5.5-2 I occasionally get the following error from backup
> when it has completed a image backup disk to disk:
> 
> %BACKUP-E-NOMSG, Message number 10A3800A
> 
> Can someone explain to me the meaning/purpose of this error message?

BACKUP error messages are in SYS$MESSAGE:SYSMGTMSG.EXE.  You can do:

	$ SET MESSAGE SYS$MESSAGE:SYSMGTMSG
	$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE(%X10A3800A)
	%BACKUP-E-OPENIN, error opening !AS as input

I put the above SET MESSAGE command in every comand file I use to do
a BACKUP.  If you had done so, the "!AS" would've been filled in with
the name of the file BACKUP had trouble with.

    I hope you get the "meaning/purpose" now...

		-Ken
-- 
 Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield    |  Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu
 SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98   |  DECnet:   45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX)
 Stanford, CA   94309        |  BITNET    Fairfield@Slacvx
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: A random number
Reply-To: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:58:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.041813.20307@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz>, sands@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Greg Sands) writes:
>Is there an easy way to get a scaled random number into a DCL com file? 
>Say an integer between 0 and 1000 or something like that?  I had a look in
>the manual, but didn't really even know where to start looking, so even a
>pointer in that direction would be helpful.  Thanks.

You can get a pretty good one by doing something like this :

  $ X = F$INT(F$EXT(21,2,F$TIME())) + 100*F$INT(F$EXT(19,1,F$TIME()))

It all depends on how often you plan to do this. If you call for such a
random number frequently within a span of a few seconds or so, this will
not generate a very good series of random numbers. But you just asked for
one random number in your question, and for a one-shot deal, this works fine.

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "Women aren't as smart as they
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     think they are; they think we
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   really do."
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Tim the Toolman
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: buda@star.enet.dec.com (Mark A. Buda)
Subject: Re: Striping and Shadowing
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:48:00 GMT


In article <76FB3BE080600321@THINK2.LakeheadU.Ca>, OCCHILL@ROWDI.LakeheadU.Ca (Geoff Hill) writes...

>	2) Volume Shadowing:
>		- how effective in improving disk I/O ?

I will let someone else answer the other questions, but want to
help share information about volume shadowing improving I/O.

Volume shadowing is not designed and meant to improve disk I/O.

Volume shadowing is a data availability product.  It can help improve
performance (read), but you need to plan worst case.  At DECUS and other
forums people talk about and some buy it for the possibility of an
increase in performance - but DEC does not warranty the software for
this function.

EXAMPLE:

You have a shadow set with 2 members.  While both members are available,
you might see a performance increase.  This is great!  During your
heaviest time of access, end of month, the HDA on one of the members
goes belly up!  You are now left with a ONE member shadow set.  Your
performance gain that you had with two is no longer available.  You find
the month end might not finish in time because only one disk drive is
available to service requests.

Plan for WORST case and if you happen to get better performance in
the normal case - GREAT!

Hope this helps,

	- mark

buda@star.enet.dec.com
...!decwrl!star.enet.dec.com!buda
buda%star.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Flushing file buffers to disk in VAX C
Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:24:20 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <5946@osc.COM>, vivekr@osc.COM (Vivek Rau) writes:
=The problem:
=------------
=I am running VMS 5.5-1 on a VAXstation 4000 model 60. I find that
=the C library call fsync() does not write the file buffers to disk
=as it is supposed to. Could someone else run the program below on 
=this or earlier versions of VMS and check it? Run the program on 
=one terminal, and when it stops to wait for input, kill the process
=using the STOP command from another terminal. If I understand the
=functionality of fsync() correctly, the buffers should have been
=flushed to disk - but when you look at the file after stopping the
=process, it is still empty. Is this a bug? 
=
=#include <stdio.h>
=#include <file.h>
=
=main()
={
=	int fd;

	FILE *fp;

=	char buf[] = "This is a test record\n";
=	char testFileName[] = "chks.out";
=
=	if ( (fd = open(testFileName, O_RDWR | O_CREAT)) < 0) {
=		fprintf(stderr, "Error opening file. Exiting... \n");
=		exit(0);
=	}
=
=	fprintf(stderr, "The file being used is %s\n\n", testFileName);
=	fprintf(stderr, "%s%s%s%s%s",
=	"A record has been written to the file and sync'ed. If the fsync()\n",
=	"call works correctly the data should be in the file even if the\n",
=	"process is stopped. You can now halt the process from another\n",
=	"terminal or window using the STOP command, or hit any key to let\n",
=	"it run to completion...\n"
=		);
=	fflush(stderr);
=
=	write(fd, buf, sizeof(buf));

	fp = fdopen(fd, "w");
	fflush(fp);

=	fsync(fd);
=
=	/**
=		You can now stop the process from another terminal or
=		window while it waits, or let it complete.
=	**/
=	getchar();
=
=	close(fd);
=	fprintf(stderr, "Wrote the record and closed the file\n");
=}

Hope that helps.  As we discussed in gory detail quite recently, you need to
perform an fflush() before the fsync().
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: gleeve@galaxy.dnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMSTAR help
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:04:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Re: the person whose vmstar listed only the first file...
I've seen this kind of thing happen if your tar file is not the
right format file characteristics. "Right" in this case means
fixed-512; others (esp. variable length) can cause this kind
of grief. More recent vmstar versions are much more forgiving
than the older ones in this regard, but I've seen compression programs
that need "binary" switches to generate the tar files without extra
cruft in the middle that causes the tar headers to get moved out
of the right place and/or corrupted. Since tar generally gives
up when it finds an invalid header, only the first file, whose
header has not been mislocated, survives.
   Remedies may require re-decompression, or may just need use of
the FILE command. Removing the "impliedcc" attribute from a tar
file is a good first step...
Glenn
Everhart@Raxco.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: 11jmitchiner@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: VAX/VMS/Telnet systems in South Cal???
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:08:17 GMT

Hello --

	I know this is probably in the wrong place, but I can't find any
other places to put this in.

	I am wondering if anyone knows of a service in Southern California
region (Orange County vincinity preferably) in which a person can either
access a VAX/VMS system or a system that can use Telnet so that way I will
be able to log onto other universities/colleges across america.  The
linking would be occured by using a computer/modem and calling into the
syetem.  I would appreciate any information I can get pertaining to this.

	Currently I am using a service, CSUF (Cal State Univ Fullerton
(I think)) but the problem is that the number is not reliable -- Sometimes
it works when I call it, but most of the time it doesn't work.  At times
I have to use Telnet but then I can't get on CSUF which makes me call
into the college directly and costs me a little bit more money on
long distance charges.

	If anyone can help me on this, please send me e-mail soon!  Thanks.

Jon Mitchiner
11JMITCHINER@GALLUA.GALLAUDET.EDU
11JMITCHINER@GALLUA.BITNET  

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx
From: moeller@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Subject: re: Printing FORTRAN and VFC print files with UCX
Reply-To: moeller@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Organization: GWDG Goettingen, F.R.Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:34:44 GMT

Lambert Hofstra <lamhof@thijssen.nl> writes (in comp.os.vms):
>[...]
> Using DEC TCP/IP Services for VMS V2.0 (UCX) he prints files on
> his HP-server.
>  
> RMS-files without carriage-control attributes get printed fine,
> but files with FORTRAN carriage control, and VFC print files (2
> bytes header) get printed with the control characters visible.
>  
> Does anybody know of this problem ?
>  
> Remark : As the VMS-symbiont does interpret these attributes,
> shouldn't the UCX symbiont do the same ?

Indeed I checked that the UCX$LPD symbiont (ECO 2) not only fails to 
respect the Fortran-style carriage control, but in fact inserts 
*no* newlines at all into a (VMS) "FORTRAN" file when sending it 
to a remote printer.

(I hadn't imagined this, since the VAXC RTL does a reasonable job
 at converting VMS carriage control attributes into "stream" format.)

Another item to get to the developers ... if there only was a way!
(Wrt another problem reported here last fall, I received a developer's reply
 stating that they didn't receive my SPR.)
It doesn't look like they're still reading vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx -
or do they?

Wolfgang J. Moeller, GWDG, D-3400 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer ...
PSI%(0262)45050352008::MOELLER      Phone: +49 551 201516 | No claim intended!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Collard x7468)
Subject: Re: Tracking DECW$DISPLAY
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:48:11 GMT

In <01GTXUFF9BMA8ZDVA9@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU> GREG@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU (Tigger) writes:

>Is there any way (such as a code to $GETDVI) to examine a _WSAn: device
>created with the SET DISPLAY command and determine what node it points
>to (ie the value of the /NODE qualifier to the SET DISPLAY)?

You can do this in DCL:

$ SHO DISP/SYMBOL
$ SHO SYM DECW$DISPLAY*
  DECW$DISPLAY_NODE == "NODE14" 
  DECW$DISPLAY_SCREEN == "0" 
  DECW$DISPLAY_SERVER == "0"
  DECW$DISPLAY_TRANSPORT == "DECNET"

I don't know if this will help you, because I don't know how to do it from
a program.  But if you are using DCL, then the symbol DECW$DISPLAY_NODE will
contain the info you seek.

--Thor
collard@capsrv.jhuapl.edu
dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DECserver 90L timeout prob.
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:15:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Tom Pfarr, tpfarr@author.gsfc.nasa.gov, writes:

>I have an early DECserver 90L (which does not get its software from a server)
>which routinely disconnects from an host claiming LAT timeout.  None of my 
>other
>DECservers (200/MC or 300) or other LAT devices (PC's and X-terms) have a
>problem.  All the devices are on the same Ethernet segment.  Traffic is
>normally in the 50-200 packets a second range.  All the Vax hosts and working
>DECservers are using default LAT settings.  Any Clues?

I know DECserver 90's are completely different from 'normal' DECservers (100, 
200, 300, 500, 700s), but you may be having a problem with too many LAT 
retransmits.  Increasing your retransmit limit, if this DECserver has such an 
adjustment, may take care of your problem.  Also consult the Problem Solving 
Guide, which is included with other DECserver documentation kits, and may 
be part of the 90's documentation kit.

Also check with the CSC or your local office's field service to ensure you have 
the most up-to-date ROMs in your DECserver 90 - some of the earlier ROMs had 
their little quirks.

-Dan Wing, dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet (DGW11)
 Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: kramer@nx27.mik.uky.edu (mike d andrews)
Subject: Re: TALK command problem
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:47:41 GMT

I mailed the person who started this thread and got it resolved, since this
is where they were trying to TALK to....

they were trying to do a "talk user@mik.uky.edu", where mik.uky.edu
is just a mail alias for nx01.mik.uky.edu thru nx40.mik.uky.edu, and for
"talk", you kinda need the exact machine number....

Both ends are very much on the Internet directly....

Just wanted to clarify a bit :)
--
Mike Andrews - kramer@wittenberg.edu - root@fragile.uucp - kramer@mik.uky.edu
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Reading incoming data from terminal server port
Date: 26 Jan 1993 06:14:58 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan26.040355.29894@exu.ericsson.se>, exubho@exu.ericsson.se (Blake Holman) writes:
>
>I have a device that prints out utilization statistics to a serial 
>port on one of my terminal server.  I would like to attach to that
>port and read in the data that my device sends to the port and sub-
>sequenly store this information on disk.
>
>Does anyone have any tips tricks or whatever to help in this regard?
>Basically anything that will connect me to a terminal server port
>and let me capture all incoming data would be great.

You use LATCP to define an application port on your VAX and associate it with
the port on the server (use the HELP command from within LATCP to get details). 
Then you use the language of your choice to assign a channel to that port and
read from it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.