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From: tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jokerit SM-LIIGA champion 91/92, Finland
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:17:26 GMT
Organization: City of Tampere

In article <1992Apr13.094554.1085@tac.fi>, tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen) writes:
> SM-LIIGA NEWS, 12th April, FINLAND
> ===================================
> 
> CONCRATULATIONS JOKERIT!!!!!!!!
> 
> Jokerit from Helsinki won the championship of SM-LIIGA 4-1. Jokerit
> won the first two games. In those games JyPHT (Jyvaskyla) could not
> even give a good opponent. The third game was though one, and JyPHT
> won that in the second overtime. The fourth was again a good game.
> Jokerit lead after the second period 3-1, but JyPHT scored twice in
> the third period. In the overtime Teemu Selanne did the winning goal
> for Jokerit and Jokerit lead 3-1. The fifth and the last game was then
> again clearly for Jokerit. Jokerit won it 4-0 and the championship in
> the games 4-1. The championship was the second for Jokerit. The first
> one game in the 1974 (if I remember right).
  ========================================

I remembered wrong. The right year was 1973.

> In the next season there will some changes in the SM-LIIGA. Firstly,
> there will be four more games. The SM-LIIGA is divided into four
> groups and the teams within a group will play two more games against
> each other. The groups are
>   A) Jokerit, HIFK and H-Reipas
>   B) TPS, Lukko and Assat
>   C) HPK, Ilves and Tappara
>   D) JyPHT, KalPa and K-Espoo.

I have not noticed that the groups have changed. The right groups are
    A) Jokerit, HIFK and K-Espoo   All from capital area
    B) TPS, Lukko and Assat        All from West-Coast
    C) HPK, Ilves and Tappara      All from Hame
    D) JyPHT, KalPa and H-Reipas   JyPHT and KalPa from Middle-Finland
                                   and H-Reipas from Hame
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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Ode to the NHL
Keywords: strike
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:59:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: philabs.1992Apr16.205940.23767
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.

In article <1992Apr9.131029@is.morgan.com> edwin@is.morgan.com (Ed Bergman) writes:

>  Ode to the NHL
[most deleted...]

>Up Yours Messier, Gretsky, Lemieux
                   ^^^^^^^
>We follow you loyally, each year spending more bucks
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

A loyal follower who can't even spell the name of the game's biggest
star?

>DISCLAIMER: These views are my own, and not my employers, though I am sure they are shared by fans all over.

Well, I guess you're pretty much right about that...

-JPC

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From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Whitney will play tonight
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:52:07 GMT

I will add details later, since I didn't get a chance to read the article
thoroughly, but the San Jose Mercury News reported this morning that center
Ray Whitney, the Sharks' 2nd round pick in the 1991 entry draft and Spokane
(WHL) teammate of right wing Pat Falloon, is set to join the Sharks, after
his IHL team, the San Diego Gulls, were eliminated in the IHL playoffs.
He is expected to play tonight, and expected to center Falloon and left wing
Johan Garpenlov.

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for the Stanley Cup!  Go for the 4-0 sweep!
Esa Tikkanen is a stiff! :-) (from the injury)  Bill Ranford is a stiff! :-)
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Pat Falloon for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
Kansas City Blades for the Turner Cup!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Big Bri)
Subject: Re: Playoff Format
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:40:42 GMT

mjdaly@athena.mit.edu (Mark J Daly) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.053758.29478@wuecl.wustl.edu> jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes:
>>
>>  Since there has been much talk about the Isles and the Flyers missing the
>>playoffs. I would suggest that the NHL uses the NBA playoff format which
>>would have the best 8 teams in in each of the conferences.
>>  
>>  The winner of each division will have the number one and two seeds
>>and the rest will be determined based on their number of points.  On this
>>given format the Isles and the Flyers would have made it to the playoffs
>>based on their better record than the Whalers and the Sabres. We also would
>>have more different playoff series. 

>This set-up makes sense in the NBA since conference alignments are
>meaningful in the NBA regular season (you play teams outside your
>division but in your conference more than you play teams in the
>other conference). I'd be in favor of this only if the NHL schedule
>was adjusted in this manner because as it stands now, you'd have few 
>chances to play teams that you would be competing for playoff spots with.

Keep in mind though that in the NBA, the division winner is guaranteed
one of the top two seeds in the first round, regardless of record.
This year, for instance, Cleveland with 55 wins will be seeded third
while New York or Boston (neither of whom can win more than 52 games)
will be seeded second. Granted, Cleveland would get home court if they met 
in the second round but the seedings would give NY/Boston a presumably easier
first round opponent. Does the NHL want that? Something to keep in mind.

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GO ADIRONDACK RED WINGS! 	CALDER CUP CHAMPS: 1981 1986 1989

BOSTON BRUINS 		STANLEY CUP CHAMPS: 1929 1939 1941 1970 1972
	      		LAST NON-PLAYOFF YR: 1967    
 

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From: gautam@caen.engin.umich.edu (Gautam Singh Grover )
Subject: WINGS over the Stars
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 13:23:05 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: all

Last night the Wings won their first game in nearly two years 
at the Met Centre in Blomington, Minn by blowing out the 
North Stars 7-4. Yzerman assured his fifth consecutive 100-pt
season by getting a hat-trick. The rout started on the (Stars!)
first power play as the wings scored two short handed goals
on breakaways by Fedorov and Yzerman within 30 sec of each other.
The game was pretty much over right there, even tho' the 
Stars got within one in the third period. Fedorov got two 
goals, Gallant one and Probert the other. Probert's goal means
that the WIngs have 7 20goal scorers this season, with Burr(I think)
on 19. 
The WIngs 18 short handed goals for the season means that they
lead the league in this category, while the Stars tied the regular
season record for most sh goals against (22).

Anybody know what the most s.h. goals in 
(a) a game and
(b) on the same power play
are?
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From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Subject: Ottawa (was Re: Consecutive seasons over .500)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:05:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.045058.3704@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO) writes:
>Since we are talking about teams being brought back from the dead, of all the 
>names Ottawa had to choose, they had to bring back the Senators.  If it were 
>up to me, I would get rid of that name (and that Trojan condom logo), as well
>as get rid of the senators in the upper house!  (Think back to the stacking of
>the senate to pass the GST)
> 

A lot of the reason Ottawa got a team was because their whole campaign
was based on 'Bring back the Senators'.
Maybe now that they have the team, they should change their name.
Why not? - Ottawa and Tampa have screwed around with all the other
things that got them franchises!!!  (ie. money, arenas, mo' money,
mo' money, mo' money, Tampa's season tickets.....)

--Dave
From: pasche@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (Pasche S.,85K3,Tel. x3816)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Switzerland : Playoffs Final (4th match)
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:38:46 GMT
Reply-To: pasche@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG


Swiss Playoffs Final (4th match)

Fribourg Gotteron :			SC Bern :
G Stecher				G Tosio
D Hofstetter, Balmer,			D Ruotsalainen, Rauch
  Griga, Bobillier,			  S. Leuenberger, Beutler
  Descloux, Brasey,			  Kuenzi, Ruetschi
  Wyssen				  Clavien
F Khomutov, Bykov, Brodmann,		F Horak, Haworth, Howald
  Reymond, Liniger, Maurer,		  Hagmann, Montandon, Burillo
  Silver, Rottaris, M. Leuenberger	  Rogenmoser, Triulzi, Baertschi
					  Schuemperli
  
-----------------------------------------------------------------

SC Bern            (0-0-0)  0
Fribourg Gotteron  (1-1-1)  3

Bern Allmend Eisstadion
Att : 16 500

Goals :

1. Khomutov (Bykov) (0-1)

39. M.Leuenberger (Reymond, Silver) (0-2)

50. Brodmann (Bykov) (0-3)


Fribourg's goalkeeper Stecher was the best player on the ice, many
occasions for Bern were saved by him.

The best of five serie is now tied 2-2
Bern       4  11  1  0
Fribourg   3  2   5  3

The last game will be in Fribourg Saturday 11th April,
we are lucky to see hockey ;-)

Greetings of Switzerland
     Gruezi aus der Schweiz
            Bonjour de la Suisse

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From: kwfrackl@lily09.waterloo.edu (SCOOP-meister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: AN ODE TO SHERRI
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:37:23 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <9APR199214263941@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ronald Morris (SVER)) writes:
>Somebody wrote some poem and then:
>These guys should
>have to watch "Slapshot" about 250 times and find out what Hockey is
>all about.
"Autez-vous tabernak---Autez-vous!!!"
"We're just puttin' on the foil, coach"
There, you see, I did watch Slapshot.  As a great poet once said:
"Have you been drinkin' cheap italian vermouth?"

>Hey, Sherri is cool.  I don't agree with a lot of her opinions, but
>she's entitled to them.  But she is a PENGUINS fan.  Therefore, I am
>sending Sherri a great big *CROSS CHECK*, and urge others to do the same.
A Penguin Fan?????  She's one of those "jump on the bandwagon" fans???  Too
bad the Islanders are going to take them out of the playoffs next year.  I think
I'll send her a *hook* also.  Then I could pull a Samulson cheap shot (you 
know Samulson - the bonehead defenseman the Pens have)

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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Fan Intervention
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:21:03 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson



 All-right!!! Fans and players going at it on the ice no less.... maybe
there is still hope left for this game after all.

			gln
From: agouldng@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Allan Goulding)
Subject: AHL Playoff Update (Was Re: Stanley Cup 1992)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:09:41 GMT



Just because the NHL playoffs are on hold doesn't mean there isn't any 
exciting hockey going on. Since nobody else has posted this yet, here are
the current AHL Calder Cup playoff standings. I'll try to update this
twice a week if anyone cares.

All series are best of seven. Division champion with highest point total
in the regular season gets a bye into the final.

Atlantic Division

St. John's....... 0
Cape Breton...... 1

Fredricton....... 1
Moncton.......... 1


Northern Division

Capital District. 1
Springfield...... 0

Adirondack....... 1
New Haven........ 0


Southern Division

Utica............ 0
Binghamton....... 0

Hershey.......... 0
Rochester........ 1


A note about the Cape Breton Oilers vs. St. John's Maple Leafs game. The game
started on Wednesday and finished Thursday night. We've had some freezing rain
which has knocked out some power lines and there was a power outage
at the end of the second period (anyone remember Edmonton vs. Boston some
years back?), with Cape Breton leading 2-1. The game was completed on
Thursday night. The Oilers were leading 4-3 when they Steven Rice got a
tripping penalty at 17:59. The Leafs tied it on the ensuing power play with
53 seconds left to force the overtime. The overtime was pretty fast paced
with great scoring opportunities and saves at either end. Unfortunately,
the Oilers finally scored the winner on Felix Potvin at 13:25 of overtime. 

The good news is that the Leafs are currently leading 6-1 at the end of the
second period of the second game (and the lights are still on!)

Playoff tickets are scarce around here, with lineups for general admission
tickets starting in the wee hours of the morning.

With all the negative talk about the NHL strike, there is one positive aspect;
I don't have to stay up until midnight to watch the start of an
Edmonton-Los Angeles game!


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From: micbrian@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MAD MAX - THE ROAD WARRIOR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: How Profitable is the NHL?
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr6.131607.1@sask.usask.ca>, chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes...
>In article <28370018@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, cadams@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Adams) writes:
>> I saw somewhere in these newsgroup that the owners were claiming a $30
>> million loss this year while the union claimed there would actually be a
>> profit of $24 million.
> 
>The owners are claiming a loss of $9 million for this season.
> 
>I can't believe that the owners can only make $24 million (NHLPA's number)
>after receiving $100 million in expansion payments.  It's unlikely Tampa and
>Ottawa really paid their full amount.

According to what I have read in The Hockey News, the expansion payments are
not being included as revenue, since they did not come through normal franchise
operations.  The $9 million loss the owners are talking about does not include
the franchise payments for Tampa and Ottawa.

Brian
From: ma71780@cs.tut.fi (Asumaa Mika Tapani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: I'd like to know - Help me, please!
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:26:18 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology

In article <1992Apr9.211141.976@u.washington.edu> pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu (Paul Kemp) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.160153.16446@lily.waterloo.edu> kwfrackl@lily04.waterloo.edu (SCOOP-meister) writes:
>B
>>>What is longest Stanley Cup game ever played?
>>My guess is that is was the Division semi-finals (Patrick) a few years
>>ago between the Washington Capitals and the New York Islanders.  Pat Lafontaine
>>(the turncoat) scored in the third period of overtime at about 2:30 AM EST.
>Wasn't it in the FOURTH overtime period?

Yes, but it wasn't the longest Stanley Cup game ever.

The longest Stanley Cup game ever was played 1936
between Montreal Maroons and Detroit Red Wings.
Detroit Red Wings scored game winning goal at 16:30 of 
sixth overtime period to break a scoreless tie.
Goaltender of Detroit Red Wings (I don't remember
his name) had shutout with 91 shots saved.


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From: dsimon@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Derron Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: FLYERS notes 4/1
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <204489@unix.cis.pitt.edu> gomer@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle) writes:

>Feel like continuing this?  Let's take it to e-mail.
>
>rick

Please don't!  I'm enjoying it!

				Derron

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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Capital appreciation, again (was Re: Greedy Athletes)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:55:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.131743.1@sask.usask.ca> chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:
>The most important element in any capital appreciation of a sports franchise is
>location.  I'd rather take the present San Jose franchise than a franchise
>based in Moose Jaw, Sask. with superstar players (excluding the possibility of
>selling players as assets in this argument).  A player of the
>calibre and popularity of Gretzky is very important to capital appreciation,
>but the venue of a franchise is most important.  
In 1983, there was a franchise in Western Pennsylvannia that nobody
wanted. It was almost driven out of town. Then there was a French Canadian
kid who came to town and saved the franchise. Want to bet how much
the Pens franchise was worth then and now? Who made the difference?

Location is probably more important in big markets.  Success and/or star 
attraction on the ice are more important in small American markets, because 
it's the only force to drive up the revenue (gates and local TV). However, 
what I say may not be applicable to small Canadian markets. 

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From: lucas@kbomfg.enet.dec.com (Dell-Roy Lucas)
Subject: Re: Stanley Cup 1992
Organisation: "Digital Equipment Co., Kaufbeuren, Germany"
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:47:28 GMT


In article <1992Apr10.054845.19265@leland.Stanford.EDU>, claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes...
>In article <1992Apr10.040453.16606@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>>Assuming there will be no NHL playoffs this season, I say we count the
>>AHL playoffs as the real games, but we look at the teams as the NHL
>>teams they represent.
>>
>>For example, if Fredericton was to play Cape Breton, and Fredericton
>>wins (I don't know if that's possible - I don't know the divisions),
>>we could say Montreal beat Edmonton for the Stanley Cup.
>>
>>At least that gives us SOMETHING to cheer about.


Sounds good to me.....I'm a Hershey fan and since the Flyers didn't make 
the playoffs.............
From: allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: BRUINS: Another winning season...
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:20:25 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada

lyddy@ecs.umass.edu writes:

>I noticed with last night's tie, the Bruins have 81 points,
>making 1991-92 a guaranteed .500-plus season.  Someone in the
>know please tell me (1) how many consecutive winning seasons this
>makes for the Bruins, and (2) whether any other hockey team (or
>any other pro sports team) can match the Bruins' consecutive 
>winning season record.

This makes it (i believe) the 25th consecutive winning season.
(Source: the NHL Yearbook).

I'm not sure what the record is for pro sports.
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From: chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin)
Subject: Re: Most popular athletes
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:51:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.190735.15366@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
> In article <1992Apr14.125437.1@sask.usask.ca> chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:
>>I'm compiling a list of the two most popular athletes in each NHL city or
> This is from the American perspective.

The popularity of the athletes should be from the perspective of the fan base
in the listed city or region.

>Also, this one per team per city limit is not reasonable. Say, nobody on the
>Sabres is as popular as the any five Buffalo Bills stars.

I wanted a variety in this popularity "poll".  Listing the two most popular
athletes from one team doesn't give a casual reader a feel for the breadth of
sports interest in a particular region.

>>		Most popular		Second most popular
>>Washington	Art Monk		Cal Ripken, Jr.
>                 Mark Rypien             Art Monk
> 
> Cal has nothing to do with Washington.

A player doesn't have to be from the fan base area of interest.  Monk and
Ripken were given by someone who lives in the DC area.  The person said
Rypien's popularity has only been evident very recently, while Monk's is long
term.

Nelson Lu will conduct the next phase of refining (a considerably more
comprehensive list) in rec.sport.baseball.  So readers can start flaming him...


Glenn