From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Civic SI clutch chatter
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:20:23 GMT
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I have an 86 Civic Si and it works perfectly. Clutch is fine, brakes
are fine. 106,000 miles. Brakes have been serviced once (new pads,
probably need to do it again), clutch has never been touched except
to adjust the cable (once). Regarding the brakes, I always use
a torque wrench on the lug nuts.

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My opinions are my own.
Happy owner of a new Mitsubishi Expo.

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To: uunet!SCTC.COM!endrizzi@uunet.UU.NET (Michael Endrizzi)
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Subject: Re: 91 Honda Civic SI clutch problem 
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From: "Evan G. Bullock-Morales" <lhdsy1!gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com!egb@uunet.UU.NET>
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Thanks for your reply.  I've included some e-mailings sent to me:
  
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Date:     Thu, 1 Oct 92 9:43:21 EDT
From: Jerrold Pianin <uunet!BBN.COM!pianin>
To: egb@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com
Subject:  Re: 91 Honda Civic SI clutch problem


Hi,

My 89 Prelude (45K Mi) has developed a terrible clutch chatter problem that
is also worse when cold/damp.

I'm joining this discussion kinda late so I'd appreciate it if you could
send me any responses you've gotten. 

Jerry
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 17:48 PDT
From: uunet!borland.com!eomiya (Elliot Omiya)
To: egb@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com
Subject: Re: Civic SI clutch chatter
Newsgroups: rec.autos

re: clutch chatter
I have an '88 CRX which is a version of your car with two seats.  I don't
have any problem with this although I autocross my car and run it hard
and I'll have to replace the clutch soon (88K miles!).  Honda is feeding
you a bunch of bullshit.  1.  Call American Honda in Gardena and BITCH.
2.  Call Jackson Racing (somewhere in Orange County) and talk to them
about a replacement.  3.  Don't take no for an answer.

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 00:50:08 PDT
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To: egb@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com
Subject: Re: Civic SI clutch chatter
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>I have a clutch chatter problem with my 1991 Civic SI.  I first noticed the 
>problem at 4000 miles.  The chatter has progressively worsened; at first a
>slight shimmy, now (20,000 miles) the entire car shudders as I slip the clutch
>(most often from 1st gear; occasionally 2nd).  The chatter is intermittent;
>although most often appearing after the car has been standing for a while.
>Adjusting the clutch has helped a little -- for a short period -- but this isn't
>the solution.

i have a 1990 acura integra.  had the same problems with clutch chatter,
especially on cold days when the car was cold.  clutch takeup was
also very abrupt, and it was difficult to shift smoothly.
i've heard that this problem has occurred with other late model integras
(other netters wrote to me to say that they had the same problem and had
their clutches replaced on their integras.)
i wouldn't be surprised if it were happening to hondas, too.  apparently
honda changed the clutch material to make it more environmentally friendly,
and this has created problems with abrupt takeup and chatter.
i had my clutch replaced under warranty this summer.  for a couple of
weeks, it was great.  smooth and progressive takeup, absolutely no chatter
at all.  sadly, the abrupt takeup has returned.  no chatter, though.  i
hope it stays that way.  anyway, i give up.  i'll just have to live with
the abrupt takeup.  maybe i'll take it in and bitch some more, but it's
not really worth it to me.

good luck with your dealer.  you might want to try a different one.
-teddy
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To: egb@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com
Subject: Re: Civic SI clutch chatter
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 92 10:57:32 EDT


Well, the clutch in my '80 Accord did the same, and it would also occasionally
stick. It turns out that it was slightly burned, and the problem went away
with a new clutch.

I don't know if your problem is entirely due to the new Honda clutch,
but it might easily be worsened by a burned clutch. Or maybe the new
Honda clutch is just so much easier to burn? 

My solution to avoid the shudder (before I replaced the clutch) was to
start on the first gear with higher rpm (2000 or more) and allow the
clutch slip a little more than normally (similarly on the second gear).
This solution was applicable all the time, except when I wanted to
start really slowly (like to move up a few meters in a traffic jam).

Michal