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From: futrena@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars soundtrack
Date: 27 Sep 92 13:51:48 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <lc3s5oINNk4m@muleshoe.cs.utexas.edu>, hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Christopher Hofle) writes:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I've been subscribed to this newsgroup for about a month now and I've been 
> suprised to find so little discussion on the music from the trilogy.  In
> my opinion, John Williams was one of the key ingredients in the success of the 
> first three movies.  Just imagine Vader making his appearance without his
> ominous march blaring in the background, or a battle scene without the furious,
> fast-paced screeching of the London Symph.  Or even Leia's and Yoda's themes. 
>  I think every*true* SW fan should have a copy of the soundtrack!
> 	Also...has anyone heard if J. Williams will be doing the music for the 
> new movies?  I think it would be a serious mistake if he doesn't.
> Comments?
> 
> Andy Hofle
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Starscream:   "I *WILL* rule the universe, Megatron!  Even if I am the only
> 		one LEFT in the universe!!!"
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Han:	"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster
> 	at your side, kid."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have the STAR WARS soundtrack on two CD's.  There is nothing quite
like it.

Nathan
From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Yoda conversation
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:41:41 GMT
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland

cs125a85@dcl-nxt24.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:

>I have a question regarding Yoda's statement in ESB.  He says something to  
>the effect of: For 800 years have I trained your dad,......" Then I'm not  
>sure exactly what he says.  All I know is that the last word of his next  
>sentence is "trained"....then he continues to say "A jedi must hold the  
>deepest commitment, the most serious mind."......
>
>Can anyone help?

      "For 800 years have I trained Jedi;  my own counsel will
       I keep on who is to be trained.  A Jedi must have the
       deepest commitment..."

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB
From: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk (Gary.C)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Borg implants mentioned in Heir to the
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:02:42 GMT
Reply-To: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

In article 12018@udel.edu, lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim) writes:

>	Silly. It's a reasonable coining that may have nothing to do with Trek--
>from cy-Borg, y'know? Besides, Zahn didn't capitalize "borg," which rather
>supports my explanation. (Then again, he may just be a NextGen fan-- what do
>I know of his personal life?)
>

Julie is right here the reference to the borg implants has nothing to do
with STAR TREK. In The Heir to the Empire the reference means none standard
AI (Artificial Intellegence) type hardware that has been added to the ship
to control certain functions. This is similar to the way as Julie says cyborg
is used to mean additional hardware added to a human or other lifeform to
control or assist certain functions.

Saying that Zahn is ripping off the borg from STAR TREK is not true,
its just a simple shortning of cyborg.

   (*) 
      \    __
   AMIGA  ///  Gary Coulter
     __ \///   SERC Daresbury Laboratory
     \\\/X/(*)       
      \X//\/   G.Coulter@Daresbury.ac.uk





 
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From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:40:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu


	Folks, when following up a post, check the Newsgroups header.  This
post is going both to rec.arts.sf.starwars AND rec.arts.tv.  If your thread
is just going to talk about the plot of next week's episode, etc. trim the
Star Wars group from the header!  While discussions of George Lucas' future
plans may perhaps belong in both groups, Indy specific discussions have no
place in rec.arts.sf.starwars.  Thank you.



-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Archive Site News (question)
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:03:01 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

I am considering changing all the gifs on the FTP site into jpg files,
to save on disk space. jpg take up much less room. If I get any major
feedback on the negative side, I won't, but if not, I will switch over
next week sometime.

-- 
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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From: m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com (Barone)
Subject: Re: Models
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:05:12 GMT

In article <SS.92Oct1074506@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
> The Vader kit was a bit pricey, but it is nice. No I haven't built it yet. 

	I bought and built the kit when it first came out and it is
a piece of crap to build (in fact, most of the MPC kits are junk).
It required great quantities of putty to fill in the seams between
pieces (such as the two piece arm and leg sections) and required
great quantities of sanding to remove flash (his cape was an absolute
mess).  Once built and painted, though, Darth does look nice.

	The claim that he's the only figural model isn't quite true,
either.  There are models of R2-D2 and C-3PO and the speeder bike scout.
ERTL is reissuing many of the models so the Vader kit may become available
at fairly cheap prices.  Beware of these new kits being passed off as
originals -- the newer kits have the ERTL logo on the side panels.  (I
haven't seen anyone trying this, the the box art is nearly identical
to the casual observer who may buy the kit thinking he has bought a
collectible.)
-- 
Joe Barone
m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com
Knowing everything is impractical.  Access times would be enormous.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: watters@darwin.genetics.washington.edu (Mike Watters)
Subject: Re: Episodes I-III on tv?
Organization: University of Washington   
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:18:02 GMT

In article <SS.92Sep30134038@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:15:38 GMT, rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) said:
>
>>Star Wars: Holiday/Thanksgiving Special (TV)
>
>rickard> Is this one on video?
>
>No legally. There are probably bootlegs about...
>--
> Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
> ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1


I have a copy I got recently, and I certainly agree with the previous
posts that have given it pretty poor reviews.
	In addition to Chewies family, there are lots of guest stars.
Bea Arthur, Harvey Corman, Jefferson Starship and more!  (WOW huh?)

By FAR my favorite part is the animated bit where they introduce Boba Fett.
I remember being really ticked off when Kenner introduced the Boba Fett
figure (before Empire was released, mind you) since he only appeared in the
cartoon I didn't figure he amounted to much. :)
	Apparently the animation was done by the same group that did the
Saturday morning show (and Rock & Rule for that matter).

mike

--
Mike
watters@genetics.washington.edu
Dept of Genetics, Univ of Washington  Seattle
(d) 206-543-1934   (e) 206-361-1156 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: ILM is for amateurs 
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:59:39 GMT

>   YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH FAITH EVERYONE IN THIS 
> GROUP PLACES IN GEORGE LUCAS' ILM. WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS.
>  I MEAN 'MON, WHO CAN'T DO STOP GO ANIMATION NOWADAYS. AND
> AS  FAR AS A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE WITH NE EFFECTS, HE BETTER
> CAN  IT NOW. STAR WARS WILL NEVER MATCH UP TO STAR TREK'S
> FIRST SEASON     OF FX. 
>   
>   AS FAR AT T2, I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY
>  AY MONEY FOR THAT MOVIE. I MEAN I COULD DO MORPHING ON MY
>  COMMADORE VIC 20. THERE HAS TO BE SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO AGREES
>  WITH ME, THERE ARE MORE RESPECTABLE FX COMPANIES OUT THERE,
> GIVE TEM A CHANCE.     
 
T2 effects on a vic-20 from a guy who can't find his CAPSLOCK key?
 
Actually, I've always preferred the STAR WARS-style special effects
done with actual models rather than the computer-generated Next 
Generation effects.
 
When it's done with actual plastic ships it somehow seems more
authentic <IMO>.
 
When I saw the computer-generated blimp and fighter-planes in INDY3
I simply wasn't impressed by them.
 
Here's hoping that whenever Lucas makes his next SW film he chooses 
the "expensive" way to do his star-battles.
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca

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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:29:02 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: Amos Tuck School

Go ahead, spoil my day...

In <1992Sep29.124247.6330@meaddata.com> sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton) writes:

>Let me second this opinion: Last night's episode (Indy fights in The Somme)
>was one of the most powerful and moving pieces of episodic tv that I have
>ever seen. The battle scenes, choreographed to the very somber music, were
>incredibly gut-wrenching. This show deserves as many Emmy awards as it can
>cart away, IMHO.

IMO the show will have to become more consitent before this is true.
Getting rid of the pre-teen Indy segments would be a good start.

>Is Indy's friend Remy' dead? I know that he was at least seriously injured in
>the last scene at the castle/villa, but considering how close he and Indy were,
>there wasn't much grieving shown on Indy's part. I wonder if they're setting
>this up for a reunion between the two (although I hope it would be a lot
>sooner than the reunion between Indy and the suffragist woman he fell in love
>with).

He is alive...

1. No idea how badly wounded he was.
2. This episode occurs before the 'Verdun' episodes from last season.

My theory: The Germans leave him behind after a French/Belgium counter
attack and he is placed in an Allied hospital. This would explain his
survival (no one really bothers to care for POWs with severe injuries) and
his non-presence in the prison camp scenes for next week.

-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

    If crimefighters fight crime, and firefighters fight fire,
    what do freedomfighters fight?	- George Carlin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.tv
From: nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin)
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:56:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.124247.6330@meaddata.com> sharonc@meaddata.com writes:
|>In article <92272.211052EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|>|>     For all you Indy fans out there, if you haven't seen the new episodes of
|>|> Young Indy, you better reschedule your Monday nights..you're definately
|>|> missing some quality programming.

I agree...  

|>Question with spoiler attached (I hope the Control-L works):

|>
|>
|>Is Indy's friend Remy' dead? I know that he was at least seriously injured in
|>the last scene at the castle/villa, but considering how close he and Indy were,
|>there wasn't much grieving shown on Indy's part. I wonder if they're setting
|>this up for a reunion between the two (although I hope it would be a lot
|>sooner than the reunion between Indy and the suffragist woman he fell in love
|>with).
|>

I don't think even Indy knows for sure if Remy is dead.  I think it's likely,
and I don't think he's enough of a "regular" character to be exempt from
getting killed.

Indy didn't really have time to react to him getting injured/killed.  In
the middle of a battle, you don't take time for a touching scene, unless
you want to get killed, too.  So I don't read his lack of reaction as an
indicator of whether Remy is dead. 

I suspect if he's alive, we'll find out in a happy reunion when Indy
escapes from being a POW at the end of the next episode. 



By the way, did anybody else notice that Indy was a Captain last week,
and a Corporal this week?  I wonder if they just have no intention of
trying to do things in chronological order, or if maybe they just decided
that last week's episode would make a better Season Premiere, so they're
intentionally showing them out of order.

       Nancy

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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: That "Heavenly stairway" sig.
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:00:34 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: jimn@phred.UUCP's message of 30 Sep 92 19:53:38 GMT

>>>>> On 30 Sep 92 19:53:38 GMT, jimn@phred.UUCP (Jim Nevermann) said:

jimn> I'm responding to Sam Stoddard's 9/24/92 signature with the
jimn> "religious stairway" implying that the only people who return to
jimn> God (when they die?) are Christians... a stance that I believe
jimn> gives new meaning to the word "presumptuous". I see a fair
jimn> amount of that type of thinking and it's more than once made me
jimn> embarrassed that I'm a Christian!

[Stuff deleted]

This really isn't the place to discuss this. If you have a problem
with this person, please take it to the appropriate news group, or use
E-mail.
--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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From: fligormj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Thanksgiving/Holiday Special
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:48:43 GMT



Does anyone know where I can get a hold of the StarWars  
Thanksgiving/Holiday TV special I have recently heard about.

Thanx

Mark
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:11:16 EDT
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New SW Books,Movies

In article <1algmgINNabm@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne
Martin) says:
>
>        For those interested, the Lucasfilm Fan Club Magazine is supposed to
>be shipped this coming Friday (Oct. 9).  This is the one that's supposed to
>have the Lucas interview detailing the new SW movies.  If I get it by the
>10th I'll post a synopsis, otherwise I'll post it when I get back from my
>Fall break (10/27, The magazine is sent to my home not to school).
>
>        Also, with November only a month away, has anyone heard ANYTHING on
>the Kenneth Flint novel (the one detailing events from ROTJ to HTTE).
>According to the SW FAQ in the ftp site, this book is due out in November.
>Anyone have any info, ie release date, title,etc.  There's been little else
>mentioned about this book (other than in the FAQ); is it even being
>published?

Is it even canon? How does it relate to the events dealt with in the Young
Adult series of books ( Glove of Darth Vader, Zorba Hutt, etc.? )
From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Raiders : Directed by commitee
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:06:53 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <13011@ecs.soton.ac.uk> jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN) writes:
>
>   I was under the impression, that although Spielberg was the
>official director of Raiders Spielberg, Lucas and Ford all contributed
>ideas in roughly equal proportion, the famous shooting in the market
>was a spontaneous decision by Ford.

    Actually, I heard that Ford had been sick for a week, and the director
  decided that rather than going through a intense battle with Indy's whip,
  that the gun would be used.

  Glenn........
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Why Endor? OR The Economy of Galaxy Farfaraway
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 09:04:06 GMT

In article <mumble> shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:

>1. Which Galaxy is it?
>For the few didn't get it (including those who think this to be the FUTURE
>Milkey Way), all 3 movies begin with a fairy-tale-like text: "A long time ago,
>in a galaxy far, far away". Well, for a lack of better name I decided to call
>it Galaxy Farfaraway (I humbly suggest we adopt this name in this newsgroup).

I think "the Farfaraway galaxy" has a better ring to it but that's
just quibbling over a minor point.... 8-)

>2. How many habitable systems?
>I suggested hundreeds, and supported that suggestion in two ways: That the
>characters talk about named systems as if all are known to their audiances,
>and that the Empire has used THOUSANDS of probe-droids (with perhaps ten used
>on each system).

Depends on the definition of "habitable".  If we just mean that the
system has at least one planet with life on it then I'd say there are
probably many thousands.  If we mean systems that have indigenous
intelligent life then hundreds is probably correct.  Colonization may
increase the number into the low thousands though, depending on how
long hyperspace technology has been around.  

>this is hardly the point. If a Death Star can be constructed at ENDOR, a
>serious industrial planet should be able to churn out stardestroyers like
>they were toaster-ovens.

I'd figure it more like ocean-going vessels than toaster ovens (though
they must churn out TIE fighters that fast!)

>conducting an exhausive search!(oh, and BTW, I don't think PDs have hyperspace
>capabilities - the one we see does not use it, the Empire finds HS capability
>too difficult even for tie-fighters, and the PDs are allready crammed with
>functions within their small volume).

I thought the reason TIE fighters didn't have hyperdrive was that it
was more economical and there was no need for it (the Empire can
afford carrier craft for TIE fighters but the Alliance can't, which is
why their fighters have to be able to get around by themselves).

>3. Are the planets we visit on the fringes of the Galactic economy?
>There seems to be a consensus that they are.

Easier to hide things (Anakin's son, rebel bases, jedi masters, Death
Star construction sites, etc) way out in the middle of nowhere!

>As
>for the Imperial capital, it may or may not be an industrialized planet - no
>evidence is given one way or the other.

My impression was always something like Trantor out of the Foundation
books - a completely industrialized world dedicated to the industry of
administration....

(Um, Trantor was the Imperial capital in Foundation, wasn't it?  It's
been a long time...hope I got the name right.)

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
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From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:24:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92273.112414EAO102
 <1992Sep29.124247.6330@meaddata.com> <BvCEwr.I0E@news.udel.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <BvCEwr.I0E@news.udel.edu>, paris@brahms.udel.edu (Paris H Magasiny)
says:
>
>However, I was wondering just what audience they are trying to target.
>The intensity of the battle scenes on this weeks show were enough to
>make me very uncomfortable....and I believe that was the intent--to
>show how hellish war is.  But if they are aiming for a fairly young, say
>teenage audience (which they seem to be with their young star) then I
>would think the violence was very strong for an 8 p.m. time slot?

Well, the gas attack had me squirming when that guy died.  I really felt
sorry for the poor sod.  The battle scenes and the mortar attack were
great, and I even commented on it to my wife while watching it...something
I rarely ever do for TV these days.  Thanks to her, I got the show on tape
with all the other episodes, b/c otherwise we'd have missed the show...=)
I highly recommend it.

One question, though.  It looks like they're going to forego the pre-teen
Indy episodes for the more exciting and popular teen Indy episodes.  Has
anyone heard anything about this?  I can see why it would be done, since the
pre-teen Indy had things happen *TO* him , which isn't very exciting.  The
teen Indy, which is much makes for better episodes, does stuff and makes
the show more dramatic and action filled.

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From: alfordjj@fe720.cc.purdue.edu (Jared Alford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Z-95?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:41:05 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Oct2.105037.13286@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, cbarilleaux@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Cyberpreppie) writes:
|> 	wait--is that the craft Luke used to fly ("I used to bullseye....in my
|> old....they're not bigger than 2 meters)? If that is the case, Luke was playing
|> with a model of on in ANH just after he got the 'droids but before he saw the
|> message from Leia.
|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------


	I believe what Luke said was along the lines of a T-?? (can't remember
the number off the top of my head), which I believe is an airspeeder.  I really
wouldn't expect a Tatooine farmboy to be flying around in a military starfighter.

					Jared
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday...
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:20:36 GMT

From article <91594@netnews.upenn.edu>, by worthm@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael A Worth):
> 
> 	Hi! I've been reading this newsgroup, and just to throw a monkey wrench
> into the works, I'd like to throw this question out onto the forum floor. Ok,
> here goes...
> 
> Who was born first, Luke or Leia?
> 
> Opinions are nice, documented facts are nicer.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> Good Luck. May the Force be with you.

	Well, my opinion is that Luke was born first because I seem to recall
in the original novelization of Star Wars that Luke was listed as being twenty
and (I think...) Leia was listed as being 19.  Also, Hamill is definitely
older than Fisher.  Now I know that as twins there shouldn't be any noticable
age difference, and the novelization is obviously wrong, but when you're only
given small clues, you take what you can get.



It's not that I like the Empire.  
I hate it, but there's nothing 				Jules
I can do about it right now! 
	- Luke Skywalker.