From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Ignorance and power and "verbitsky" are a deadly mixture.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 19:04:23 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <1992Dec19.231339.18709@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:

>Primarily, it should be used to fight off people like Mark
>Lipshits and Mutlu who flood the net with interethnic
>bashing. The renaming is idiotic idea I (and 80% of netters)

Ignorance and power and "verbitsky" are a deadly mixture, you know. 
Over 60 million Turks live in xUSSR. And it is the duty of all Turks
around the globe to own the problems of these 60 million Turkish 
people. This is the path to have free Turkish states in the future 
to help each other in every means. Political, cultural and economic.
Azerbaijan is dedicated to establish a free and independent state
as agreed in 1917 in Moscow, during the Muslim States of Russia
Convention. This was agreed upon not only for Azerbaijani Turks
but also Northern Caucasian Turks, Turkestan Turks, Idil-Ural
Turks and others. The Karabag region of Azerbaijian was populated 
by Turkish-speaking Azeris until the Azeri population was devastated 
by invading Armenians during World War I. Armenian forces massacred 
Turkish men, women, and children of the towns and villages which 
lay in their path. Armenians then settled the areas, and this 
became to constitute the majority. The Armenians are not seeking a 
'reunification' with x-Soviet Armenia by any means. That is not the 
stated intent or the final goal of their bloody Dashnak ideals. They 
have claimed that if Greater Armenia (Hayatistan) is not created, that 
Azerbaijan will turn into another Lebanon. To this end, they have stockpiled 
ammunition, weapons and trained soldiers to murder defenseless Azeris. 
The crux of the Azerbaijani frustration is not reported upon, but
concealed behind homilies such as Shiite and natural enmity of the 
Turks against the Armenians. There are presently, 250,000 refugees 
from Armenia in Azerbaijan. The international community has never asked 
their fate. There are over 50,000 Meshketian Turks from Uzbekistan in 
Azerbaijan that the Azeris are also helping. 

The scenario and genocide staged by the Armenians 78 years ago in 
the Ottoman Empire is being reenacted again - this time in Azerbaijan. 
There are remarkable similarities between the plots, the perpetrators, 
and the underdogs. In addition, Nakhicevan and its Azeri population
of about 300,000 have been under virtual siege since 1988. The
Armenian soldiers are holding up the trains, firing at the vehicles
and disrupting contact between Nakhicevan and Azerbaijan. 

        Milliyet, March 4 1992, p. 1, by Altan OYMEN

           IT'S INHUMANE TO IGNORE THIS VIOLENCE

The stories of survivors of Karabag massacre are in Milliyet today.

69 year old Hatin Nine telling:

-''My Twin grandchildren were cut to pieces in front of my eyes. They told
me: We won't kill you. But the babies have to die in front of your eyes.''

72 year old Huseyin Ibrahimoglu:

- ''Our Turkish village in Khojalu Town was blown up in two hours.
  While killing children and babies mercilessly they said: You are
  Turks, you must die.''

28 year old Gulsum Huseyin:

- ''They bayonetted my 3 year old daughter in her stomach in front of
    my eyes.''

Are these stories lies? Have the eye-witnesses been day-dreaming?
Were these stories forged by Turkish journalists in the region?

The nonsense of such a claim is clear from the writings of British
Journalists, too. Two days before we had quoted from a Sunday Times
article. They[British] reported the events in Karabag even before
Turkish journalists. What is more here are the pictures. Pictures
of people who were bayonetted, whose eyes were gouged, ears cut off.

Even the Armenian Radio couldn't claim these "lies." They are saying
"exaggeration." That means ''somethings'' have happened but the
situation is not as bad as reported. Perhaps that village of Khojalu
town was destroyed in 4 hours, instead of 2... Or Gulsum Huseyin's
3 year old daughter was bayonetted in her chest instead of stomach...

The massacre is clearly seen with all its dimensions. The effects of
this massacre on Karabag and environs cannot be reduced by any word.

Some of the western press', led by some French Newspapers, ability
to ''close their eyes'' is nothing but complicity in this massacre.

Yesterday we gave samples from Le Figaro. Until yesterday's print
no news about the real events in Karabag were printed. So were the
French TV channels.. The subject they considered related to Karabag
was ''The necessity of protecting Armenians against Azeri attacks.''

The age we are living in is termed a human rights age. There are lots
of organizations such as United Nations and CSCE(Conference on Security
and Cooperation in Europe), and rules, all designed to fight against human
rights violations. International reactions must be made with international
cooperation. With support of everybody and every organization claiming
to be civilized.

Could there be a more serious human rights violation than that of the
right to live -and with such levels of barbarity and cruelty-? Where
is the cooperation? Where are the reactions? And the intellectuals,
journalists, writers, TV stations of certain western countries such
as France who are fast to claim leadership of "human rights?"
Where are you?

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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