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From: Dave Tartaglia <indy@immacc.prepnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Paul Newman film
Date: 4 Jan 1993 15:36:48 -0600
Organization: 'Immaculata College, PA '
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Sometime around 1971 (?) Paul Newman starred in a film set in a future ice
age.  Much of the society revolved around a deadly game in which the number  
5 figured.  The film title was something like "Penta" or "Pentacle."

As I recall, the movie got negative reviews, but I went anyway and
enjoyed it.  I haven't found any references to it in film or video
guides.  Does anyone remember the exact title?
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Upcoming Films
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:40:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan8.145149.17136@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
alee@quads.uchicago.edu (Nic Fit) writes:
> In article <38156@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu 
(Christopher Dean) writes:

>>I maintain a list of upcoming films for a BBS on our local VAX 

>>??????: Aliens vs. Predator, Clear and Present Danger, The Mask
>>Star Wars I, II, III

>   Your BBS is seriously flawed.

<deleted explainations about how these films are not in production>

Not flawed, just mislabeled.  Seems this whole list (including the others
that were in the original post) is a combination of "movies in production"
and "movies that are only rumors at this point".

Perhaps it would be more informative to label these as such.

Greg Bole                            "We ride...to hell.  Or to glory.  
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         It depends on your point of view."
                                Errol Flynn in _They Died With Their Boots On_
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From: alanj@ibmpcug.co.uk (Alan Jay)
Subject: Heaven's Gate - Re: Long films and box office success 
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:08:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.211023.28771@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>
>>Heaven's Gate: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Possibly the greatest flop in
>>movie _history_ and you give it as evidence to the contrary?!
>
>UA, on the other hand, did go out of business (bought up by MGM),
>largely as a result of the failure of this film.
>
>>Nobody went to see this. Trust me.
>
>I did.  But I believe its total grosses so far are still in the range
>of $3 million or thereabouts, so you're not that far wrong.  Length wasn't
I did

Both the hacked studo cut and the original version (twice in
the cinema)

>the problem with "Heaven's Gate", either.  Overwhelming and almost 
>unanimous critical savaging was, and most critics chose aspects other
>than its length for the majority of their scorn.

I think that that may have been true in the US in Erope on
the other hand it was hailed as a masterpiece...

ALan
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From: francou@imag.fr (Laurent FRANCOU)
Subject: Re: Francais movies
Organization: Bull-Imag
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:42:59 GMT

>In article <BzoCKt.Ion@peora.sdc.ccur.com>, tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran) writes:
>>
>>Please recommand good French movies that one can get from rental outlets.
>
>There's always Jean de Florette and the sequel, Manon de la Source
>(Manon of the Spring).

Some details about _Manon des sources_
--------------------------------------
Manon des Sources (not Manon de la source) was initially a very good film of Marcel Pagnol (from the 60's).
Several years later M. Pagnol wrote two books starting from this story: _Jean De Florette_ and _Manon des sources_ .
Jean des Florette took place many years before Manon des sources and told the story of the father of Manon.

Few years ago a good adaptation of these books was realised with Gerard Depardieu, Emmanuelle Beart, Daniel Auteuil and Yves Montand.
So the 2 films aren't exactly a remake of the first Manon_des_sources but keeps
exactly the dialogs of the book.

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From: jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movie Quotes
Keywords: quotes
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:49:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <3985@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>>"I'm mad as hell and I'm ot gonna take this any longer"

Finch in "Network"

>>"I could have been a contender, but I ended up being a bum"

Marlon Brando in "On the Waterfront"

>>"Is that a gun you're carrying or are you just happy to see me?"

Mae West in "????" -- the one with Cary Grant.

>>"You talkin' to me?"

Robert DeNiro in "Taxi Driver"

>
>But this gives me an idea for collecting famous movie quotes....
>I'm adding one below (I hope the wording is exact), a quote that
>stuck to my mind the moment I heard it a few years back.  Any
>guesses?
>
>"Should I ice her or should I marry her--which one of these?"

I believe ... Jack Nicholson in "Prizzi's Honor"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: euagul@eua.ericsson.se (Ann Gulbrandsen)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Reply-To: euagul@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:11:31 GMT

I'm not really sure what definition of weird that
qualifies a movie, but since I seem to remember
that the original poster mentioned Bagdad Cafe' then
these movies may be of interest:

Queen of Hearts
Getting it right
My life as a dog
Rita, Sue and Bob Too
Men...

My life as a dog is swedish, Men... is german and I believe 
the other three are english.

/Ann
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: The Last of the Mohicans Stars name
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: The Last of the Mohicans
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:41:02 GMT
Distribution: na 

In article <1993Jan8.163308.20409@news.columbia.edu> kern@cunixf.cc.columbia.
edu (Howard Stewart) writes:
>can someone please post the lead actor's and the actress' name from
>the above movie.
>
Daniel Day-Lewis and Madeleine Stowe

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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Movies you were forced to see
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:41:19 GMT

I only seem to remember the real nightmares, but here they are:

HOME ALONE
	AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! Stop the torture! I'll confess! Just please stop! 
	I was truly amazed that John Hughes would stoop THIS low and produce such 
crap! Okay, okay, I know it's only a kid's movie, but give me "A Christmas Story" 
or "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" any day.

ST. ELMO'S FIRE
	After seeing this John Hughes puke inducer I should have known better
than to see "Home Alone." Hughes made two great movies in a row, "Sixteen Candles"
and "The Breakfast Club."  Then this twenty-something "Big Chill" made plots with
predictible, one-dimensional characters into an art form. I swear five minutes
into the movie I asked my girlfriend (who'd already seen it once), "Alright, which
one of the characters is going to try to commit suicide." She wouldn't tell me,
so it took me about five more minutes to guess which one.


NOTHING IN COMMON
	Here's one I was really disappointed with. I thought in the first few
scenes it set up a really funny situation: (Mom kicks dad out, bumbling dad goes
to live with son). But after the set up, they just threw that whole plot line out
the window, spent the next two hours on a sickingly-yuppish Tom Hanks trying to
land the big advertising account and bed the client's daughter. Then, in the last
15 minutes, try to bring dad back into the picture for a tear-jerker ending.
Terribly manipulative and uneven.


GREMLINS
	Has Joe Dante made a career of trying to copy the "magic" of Steven
Spielberg's "E.T." or what? This was just the worst of his forays.


BABY BOOM
	Don't bother shooting me, I'll shoot myself.


BOLERO
	Even smearing Bo Derick's nude body with honey couldn't save this dog.
Unfortunately, we walked out before what must have been one of the funniest scenes
in film history. Bo's matador lover gets injured and can't fight in the big bull
fight, SO SHE TAKES HIS PLACE!!! And I thought only John Waters could think up
something this sick.


AND NUMBER ONE ON MY ALL TIME "I WAS FORCED TO WATCH THIS" LIST:

** WILD ORCHID **
	Every aspect of this movie was so stupid, my wife and I kept giggling at
the ridiculous dialogue/characters/plot/etc. At first we got rude stares from
other people in the audience. But halfway through the flick they were joining in
at laughing their way through this ultimate Moron Movie.
	I just have to rave about the total ridiculousness of this movie's
ending. The situation is that the young bimbo works for Jaquline Bisset, and they
want to buy this $9 million building from Mickey Rourke and sell it to these Chinese
investors for millions in profit. Rourke won't sell, but eventually GIVES the
building to the bimbo as a love offering. Meanwhile, Bisset is telling the
investors she can't sell them the building because whe doesn't own it, but the
bimbo comes rushing in at the last second with the deed and GIVES it to Bisset,
just so she (bimbo) can impress her boss with saving the day!  OH MY GOD! SPARE
ME!

Anthony
From: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:24:59 GMT

In article <1ihh4cINNeti@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.144844.16689@Princeton.EDU>  
>egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
>> I KNOW that I don't love the smell of napalm in the morning, and to  
>me
>> it's not the smell of victory.  Coppola needs to grow up.
>> 
>
>Are you confusing the point of view of a character in the movie
>with that of the writer/director?  The character was obviously
>portrayed as a buffoon for saying things like that.

NOT!  The officer was portrayed by Robert Duvall, who played Vito
Corleone's consiglieri, no buffoon at all; Coppola was thus priming us
to take the officer character seriously.  Furthermore, he was portrayed
as a brave and effective officer, who did not flinch at incoming fire.
The confusion was resident in Coppola's mind, who at one and the same
time looks at the Duvall officer as beneath his "liberal" outlook AND
above it (films, any more than dreams, are not subject to a law of
noncontradiction.)

Indeed, this confusion has informed our entire society since the
Seventies.  Men will mouth liberal platitudes and cut funding for inner
city schools on the same day; Clinton was elected on a liberal platform,
but he's put Chelsea in a private school.  Coppola's films at one and
the same time say, how limited a man Vito Corleone or the Duvall officer
was, but how much a man should be admired by us decadent liberal
panty-wastes.

In short, it's high time to put to rest any notion that the media elite
in this country is "liberal."



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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: Two More Cents on <<Chaplin>>
Summary: Thoughts on Chaplin
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:58:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.093658.46287@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, whitehea@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Lady in Red) writes:
> I just left <<Chaplin>> and I thought I'd bore everyone with my
> opinions about it.
> 
> 
> First of all, let me say that I am a dead-serious Chaplin fan and I
> went to this movie with high hopes and strict requirements.  I didn't
> like Robert Downey, Jr. in <<Air America>> and found him annoying rather
> than endearing in <<The Pickup Artist>>.  
> 
> But, in <<Chaplin>> he did the job.  I felt that the whole movie was
> mis-structured in general (I hated the way his wives were shuffled on
> and off the screen -- it was like a curtain call!).  Mr. Downey, Jr.
> turned in a creditable performance as the "Little Fellow" and that is
> what I went to see.  
> 
> I would be interested to hear the opinions of others on whether or not
> they think that <<Chaplin>> was adversely affected by <<Amadeus>>.  I
> kept getting that overwrought genius feeling about Chaplin.  Or maybe
> I am deceived by the fact that he looks a touch like Tom Hulce in some
> scenes.  Anybody else?
> 
> I suppose I like the movie, finally though, because I think its heart
> was in the right place.
> 
> For what it's worth.
> 

I didn't want to go to see Chaplin - I never cared for Robert Downey,
I really don't care for "biopics" and the commericials were really
annoying (I cringe everytime wife #3 (?) screams "CHARLEEEEEEEEEE").

Turns out I really enjoyed it.  I thought Downey handled the role
very well taking him from youth to old age. As for the wives
shuttling in and out - didn't you get the impression that was pretty
much the way it was in life?  Maybe we were supposed to feel that
way.  They seemed very perpheral to his life - no matter how much
he desired them at first.

I really don't see any connection between Chaplin and Amadaus.  Mozart
was portrayed as a giggling buffoon who didn't really deserve
his fame.  They showed Chaplin to be a workaholic perfectionist
responsible all the way.

I've always enjoyed Chaplins work and like watching them recreate them.
The tribute at the end was particularly moving and well done.

marc colten

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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Movies you were forced to see
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:40:38 GMT

One poster said she was a projectionist at a theater and as such saw a movie she
thought would stink but actually turned out to be pretty good. I too would like
to throw in my experience in this category. 

I was an usher at a theater back in
1982 when a Sean Connery movie called "Wrong is Right" came out. This movie is
FANTASTIC. It's a biting satire in which Connery plays this Peter Arnett-type
super-TV-reporter who gets involved with a plot where a Middle Eastern Dictator
gets hold of some nuclear weapons and wants to terrorize the world, so the U.S.
ends up going to war against him. Sound familiar? I feel like I lived through the
the same events during the Gulf War in `91. The movie's even better now that
we've had the Gulf War, and you realize how prophetic the makers of this movie
were.

This movie got very little publicity when it came out, IMO because it slams the
media so hard as being a bunch of buffoons. As a former reporter I can tell you
that the media, especially on a national level, overrates its importance and is
overly-sensitive to criticism.

Anyway, catch this gem of a flick. you will probably be, just as I was,
pleasantly surprised at how good such an unknown movie can be.

Anthony
From: spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: KODAK SOUND
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 12:54:30 EST
Organization: Organ Grinders Monkeys Union With Penguins As Mascots

Hi there. As someone with an interest in things technical I was wondering if
you could tell me HOW they encode the sound?

I recently heard about a system for printing the sound (OPTICAL) between
sproket holes. This makes for a larger picture area (super 16mm, or super 35mm
-- ie three perf not four).

Is this the same system?

If so it will improve the quality of the projected image (and sound) on ALL
LEVELS across the board>

1 - the sound is didgitally encoded -- no hiss from dirty hears, no mag
residue, and no deterioration of the optical sound (which always sucked
anyway).

2 - larger negative and positive (print) area. Ie finer grain. That would BEGIN
in the shooting stage (no more of that "academy" ratio crap) by giving the
cinematographer a 1.66 frame by default!

All of this translates into a different system for filming and translating
films to the big and small screen!

For example, with the intro of HDTV (the future for theartical projection, I
beleive) the screen aspect will be wider by default. yet the sound quality will
improve!

Sorry if this is a disjointed post, I'm running low on time.

Please reply an we can continue the discussion at a later date!

Take care
-----
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From: ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
Subject: Re: The Wizard of Oz
Keywords: toto
Organization: Home for the Terminally Infirm
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:20:01 GMT

In article <1ihnicINN6fc@ensta.ensta.fr> dussert@beatrice.ensta.fr (Pierre Dussert) writes:
>	Hello everybody!
>
> Does someone remember the name of the little girl played by Judy Garland in the
> Wizard of Oz?

Dorothy Gale.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: re: Citizen Kane - can some one explain?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:01:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.223134.9095@wuecl.wustl.edu> bs@wucs1.wustl.edu (Bala SWAMINATHAN) writes:
>What is all about the rose bud thing in the movie? (a silly question?)
>
>I could only see a chair or a "sled" thing with ``Rose bud'' written
>on it being incinerated toward the end of the movie.
>
>What does this Rose bud suppose to symbolize? Kane's life/dream?
>
>The reportor/investigator character also says something like
>`there is no such thing as Rose bud' at the end. I was
>confused. Can some one explain the theme to me? (An email would
>be fine)

An excerpt from Roger Ebert's Home Movie Companion:
- "Rosebud."
	The most famous word in the history of cinema.  It explains 
everything, and nothing.  Who, for that matter, actually heard 
Charles Foster Kane say it before he died?  The butler says, late in 
the film, that he did.  But Kane seems to be alone when he dies, and 
the reflection on the shard of glass from the broken paperweight 
shows the nurse entering the room.
	Gossip has it that the screenwriter, Herman Mankiewicz, used 
"rosebud" as an inside joke, because as a friend of Hearst's 
mistress, Marion Davies, he knew "rosebud" was the old man's pet 
name for the most intimate part of her anatomy.
From: csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Review:  SCENT OF A WOMAN (Minor SPOILERS)
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:58:07 GMT
Distribution: usa

From article <1993Jan8.204103.2139@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, by blake7@herahera.cc.bellcore.com (berardinelli,james):
> SCENT OF A WOMAN
> 
>      Running Length:  2:36
>      Rated:  R (Language, mature themes)

I saw some reviews which seemed to think this movie
was too long...NOT

It holds your interest from start to finish despite a
theme that's been told many times before.

Pacino gives the performance of a lifetime!!!
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From: mafu@stortek.com (Matthew Dozier x2102)
Subject: Re: The Wizard of Oz
Keywords: toto
Organization: StorageTek
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:10:46 GMT

In article <1ihnicINN6fc@ensta.ensta.fr>, dussert@beatrice.ensta.fr (Pierre Dussert) writes:
|> 	Hello everybody!
|> 
|>  Does someone remember the name of the little girl played by Judy Garland in the
|>  Wizard of Oz?
|> 
|> 				Alex


I remember her first name was Dorothy.

Matthew Dozier
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Who remembers this old flick?  PRIZES!! PRIZES!!
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:33:19 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1993Jan5.162706.5567@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Cecelia A. Dorn) writes:
|> Okay, here's one for all you trivia junkies out there.  Anybody remember
|> a show called something like "Monster Movie Matinee" that was on Sat.
|> afternoons in the mid/late 60's that was hosted by Igor and ....
|> 
|> Wait now, put down your hands...that's not my question yet.  My question has
|> to do with a particular movie that I saw a couple of times on that show.
|> This movie was about witches and All Hollow's Eve and reincarnation....
|>
|> ... of strange imps (Billy Barty is one of these imps -- he's the only
|> actor that I knew by name) and they give Maid Meg some mischievous
|> bad time and then they disappear (via bad special effects).  There
|> are a lot of other bad special effects throughout the film and it
|> all culminates on All Hollow's Eve when the witches all get together
|> for some purpose which I can't remember anymore.....

 Well, doing a cross check on Billy Barty in the r.a.m. actors list
 narrows it to one of these:

       HARUM SACRUM

       LOBSTER MAN FROM MARS

       THE HAPPY HOOKER GOES TO WASHINGTON

 Right?

 TRAVIS
From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:07:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jwp@aber.ac.uk (J W Perkins) writes:

>Something that happened twice last year to my irritation was having cleaning
>lights switched on while I was sitting watching the end credits.

Worse yet, I've had the projectionist turn off the projector while I sat
as the only patron watching the credits. I am an avid credit reader and this
really pisses me off.  Some movies even include special things to reward
those who watch credits - Ferris Beuler's Day Off, Electric Dreams, Etc.
I paid my admission.  How dare they tell me that I can't watch the credits!

Bil Gonzalez
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Al Pacino for Best Actor (Scent of a Woman)
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:38:04 GMT
Organization: HMS

>WDENNEN@CCVM.sunysb.edu (Bill Dennen) writes:
>
>>He certainly gets my vote (although, my votes does not count for much).
>>The movie was great - one of the best I've seen in a loooong time (and, yes,
>>I'm a movie freak and go to the movies often).
>
>>Pacino should get best actor!
>>Any other comments?

Yes. I think Jack deserves some recognition for the work he did with Hoffa.
Al should and most likely will take home the Best Actor(I even felt this
way after I saw Scent for the first time at the Boston Film Festival
back in September). Unlike Scent of a Woman,where we have 2 prime
characters for the most of the film, Nicholson not only carries Hoffa
the movie but also with Hoffa the character he turns in his best classic
Nicholson perfomance. I'm not sure if Jack was inspired by a charimatic
character of Hoffa or by the fact that he's been receiving alot of bad
publicity over the last 10 years for taking on boring and unchalleging roles
and finally decided to kick some ass with movie critics or whatever the case
might be,I just think Jack should be considered at least as a solid runner-up
to Al at the Oscars.

-Mark
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