HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Sound cards for OS/2
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:55:05 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <719058360.F00138@monly.wlink.nl.wlink.nl> Bill.Austin@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Bill Austin) writes:
>Under a Dos windows or a full Screen Dos session the plyaback quality
>of .mods dropped to below my threshhold for listening.  (I dual boot
>back to true-dos for .mod playing with promod)
>So far, I don't think (I'm no authority by any means.. not much OS/2
>experience) ANY sound cards are supported.

Use a different MOD player.  Players that muck with the timer to get
their output playing properly will fail.  Either they'll run slow (if
HW_TIMER is off) or they'll crash the system (if HW_TIMER is on).
This is because they insist on changing the speed of the system clock
and OS/2 doesn't like that too much.

If you use a MOD player that uses DMA and the SB's interrupt (IRQ-5 on
mine), you shouldn't have a problem.  I know of one player, WOWII 1.2b
(look in /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS on wuarchive.wustl.edu) which works just
fine in a full-screen DOS session.  Its only real problem is that it
uses VGA mode-X for its graphics, so the display can't be virtualized
to a window and the display gets ruined if you switch away and back
(but the app continues to run with the ruined display!).

It works quite well for most of the MODs I have.  Shareware
registration is $20, I believe.


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dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
From: marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Enhanced Editor 5.51 -> error when leaving
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 10:40:12 GMT
Organization: Private OS/2 System

marten@feki.toppoint.de writes in article <718626478snx@feki.toppoint.de>:

> Leaving this program and starting epm.exe results in the same error. I
> have only the "clock" and "bitfax" running in the background.

 This was a wrong information: There was also the program "wecker"
(translated as "alarm clock".. ? ). Killing "clock" and "bitfax" --
nothing happend - the error was still there. Killing "wecker" and
everything was ok. Starting "clock" and "bitfax" again -- epm has no
problem. Starting "wecker" again: epm.exe produces the error again.
Well, I know this can not be true -- but it happens on my computer ....

 Perhaps a person at IBM can do something with these informations...

 MF


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Can I use DOG do de-fragment "EA DATA. SF"?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:39:42 GMT

bbm@po.CWRU.Edu (Brian B. Mathewson) writes:
>If I clear the hidden and system attributes on this file, can I use
>the shareware Disk Organizer (DOG) program to defragment this file
>and the rest of my disk? 

I and others have done it with no problem (tho I use VOpt) - files
that point into EA DATA. SF do so with an address into the file, not
an absolute address on the disk, so rearranging its location shouldn't
hurt. 
-- 
186,000 m/s: it's not just a good idea - it's the law!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Fax Programs for OS/2
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:28:12 GMT

In article <718486374haen.news@veces.stgt.sub.org> haen@veces.stgt.sub.org (Herbert Neugebauer) writes:
>I already know, that there are two or three of them. But 
>can they also be used for class 1 (group 3 of course) modems??

PMFax (a.k.a. FAXit for OS/2) certainly can, at least as of Version
1.16.  (Some earlier versions didn't support Class 1 faxmodems.)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: eguerrino@email.bony.com
Subject: Re: Quattro finding floppy drives
Organization: ***
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:21:57 EDT

In article <12OCT199211375775@zeus.tamu.edu>, css0860@zeus.tamu.edu (CSS) writes:
> Has anyone had a problem with quattro finding floppy drives under OS/2 2.0?
> 
> -css
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> C. Steven Suehs, a Texas A&M University Biochem/Computer Sci Major

No, I have not used Quatro Pro, but I have seen this problem with
123 R 3.1 and 123 For OS/2. We sent this in to IBM and found out
that a kernel fix released in June is where this problem first
appeared. IBM subsequently released a new kernel in August or
September to correct the problem.
eric guerrino
Bank of New York
eguerrino@email.bony.com
From: "kenneth.tam"@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl ("kenneth tam")
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: os/2 bbs software
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:32:58 -0100

Organization: Canada Remote Systems

I'm looking at setting up an OS/2-specific BBS, and have a few questions
about the software available.

The most popular program seems to be Maximus?  How (if at all) does it
support UUCP and Internet access?  Will Usenet/Internet access preclude
Fidonet access?  Being able to connect to both would be a real asset;
one or the other is a necessity, without which I wouldn't even consider
running..

Those who have had experience running Maximus, how much does it affect
the system?  I have a 486/33 with 16 MB RAM and will be using a USR Dual
Standard (16.8 HST, 14.4 v32bis etc etc) with a 16550AFN.  Hopefully the
BBS will not impair performance significantly?  Can I expect roughly the
same performance loss that I get while running a high-speed transfer on
an OS/2 term program?

Unfortunately for my would-be users ;), I'll be willing to sacrifice
some serial speed in return for usability on my side.  What kind of
priority settings would be appropriate?

E-mail or post, I follow this group and the os2.misc as well..

Thanks..

kenneth.tam@canrem.com
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: MS Word for OS/2
Keywords: MS WORD, OS/2
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:12:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.114916.23984@dragon.acadiau.ca> 870086t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Shannon Tremblay) writes:
>does anyone have first hand experience with MS Word for OS/2.
>I read an article in PC/Computing ( August, '92 ) that states
>that Word for OS/2 is not as fast as Word for Windows, depending
>on the task being performed.
>Is this true?
>If so, what is the purpose of going to a 32bit operating system.
>I thought it was supposed to be faster, as well as multi-tasking!!
>The next question is obvious; do I buy MS Word for Windows or for 
>OS/2 ? 

I cannot recommend Word for OS/2 at this time.  Microsoft has not
updated the product beyond Release 1.1b, and it is still 16-bit (and
working through translation libraries at that).  Microsoft, frankly,
did a poor job in porting.

I suggest looking into DeScribe and the forthcoming Lotus Ami Pro and
WordPerfect 6.0.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST 2.0f is avail.
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | from 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [For the Internet, vote Clinton-GORE this year.]
From: Stephenson.Daniel.A@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Stephenson Daniel A)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Seamless Mode
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:38:44 -0100

Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <1992Oct12.022827.3815@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>I keep seeing references to programs running in Seamless Mode.
>What does that mean?

It means that your Windows apps are run from the OS/2 desktop, NOT the Windows
desktop.  I think the word 'seamless' come from the fact that
Windows as a whole is run 'under' OS/2, and there is a 'seam' where ONLY
the Windows app 'pokes through'.
-Dan

-- 
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"I have never understood why it should be neccessary to become irrational in
 order to prove that you care. Or indeed why it should be neccessary to prove
 it at all."  -Avon (Blakes 7 _The Duel_)
From: Dominik.Wujastyk@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Dominik Wujastyk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Advanced Revelation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:40:48 -0100

Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium


Just a point of information (perhaps for the FAQ):  I found out 
yesterday that Revelation Technologies does have an OS/2 version
of their database package, Advanced Revelation.  This is a very
powerful database package, for those who don't know.  It has
a couple of unique features which can be crucial for certain
types of application.  a) unlimited text in text fields, without
storing blanks; b) breaks the Codd rules by allowing multiple
instances of particular fields ("repeated fields").  The latter
feature is ideal, say, for the "Subject" field in a bibliographical
database, where you need to enter several subjects, and you don't 
know in advance how many you may need.

ARev is -- under the bonnet -- based on Pick.

ARev's OS/2 implementation is of version 2.0 of the product.  DOS is
at 3.0, and OS/2 will come up to 3.0 soon.

Dominik

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: Less help and vi option question
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:59:10 GMT

It appears to me that less has a problem finding files.
When I press v to edit the current file or h to get help
it a system message is issued saying the path can't be found.
I set editor to various values, like c:\os2\e.exe, c:\os2\cmd.exe
and d:\bin\q.exe, with no effect, the files *are* there however.
Same goes with lesshelp. Is this a known problem, has it been
fixed, or am I doing something wrong?

Erik



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: montrose@projtech.com (Rod Montrose)
Subject: Re: HELP! SYS0025, SYS0027
Organization: Project Technology, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:24:27 GMT

Gary Woodman (Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct3.035643.20960@nwnexus.WA.COM> gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright) writes:
: 
: > I need help for a freind trying to install the new beta.  He puts
: >in the install disk and reboots. After just a second or two the system
: >hangs with
: >  OS2 SYS!!0025
: >  OS2 SYS!!0027.

I got the same thing when I made a OS2 stand alone boot floppy.
The problem is the OS2 Loader checks the volume label of the
floppy and makes sure it is "NONAME". I had used an old floppy
and added the boot stuff to it, and kept getting the message.
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From: hank@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (hank)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Help with gnu man.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:43:53 -0100

Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <Bw0sDE.E7y@news.iastate.edu>, jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
> [regarding the port of gnu man]
> I don't know which man program was ported by Kai, but I just ported a man
> program written by Edward C. Bennett for my own use which had the same bug
> [can't auto-gen formatted pages].

Rommel ported one by
 * Copyright (c) 1991, John W. Eaton.
 *
 * You may distribute under the terms of the GNU General Public
 * License as specified in the README file that comes with the man 1.0
 * distribution.
 *
 * John W. Eaton
 * jwe@che.utexas.edu
 * Department of Chemical Engineering
 * The University of Texas at Austin
 * Austin, Texas  78712

I've started looking through the code, but I have not yet found a fix
corresponding to your suggestion. I have forwarded a bug-report to Rommel.

Apparently, there are now 3 'man' programs: Your port, Rommel's port, and
the REXX man program by Dennis Schmitz. 

--Darrel Hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Reviews: GammaTech, Sytos Plus, PMFax, HA5
Date: 10 Oct 1992 19:54:34 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>I thought I might sum up my impressions of some new software that has
>just crossed my desk.

>GAMMATECH

>The new, 32-bit version of the GammaTech utilities has been released.
>For more information on this product, contact GammaTech at
>405-359-1219 or FAX 405-359-7391.


Does anyone care to comment on the unerase feature?  Specifically,
does the HPFS unerase require that the recovered file be targeted to
another drive?  Also, how fast is it to unerase a file on an HPFS
drive?  In short, does it work like, say, the Norton unerase program
for DOS, or is it more like the Phoenix OS/2 unerase program, or
neither?

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:04:57 MDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sean@terminus.byu.edu
Subject: Linux and Boot Manager

Yes, it is possible to use the Boot Manager and Linux together.  Just set up your linux partition (I believe it can't be an extended partition) and use lilo (which comes with the MCC distribution of Linux).  Lilo writes the boot record for the Linux partition and it will work.  I've done it.  It works VERY well.

Sean Eckton
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: Re: Less help and vi option question
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:50:14 GMT

880506s@dragon.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:

>Help works fine for me.  Did you do the following?

>   Copy less.hlp to a directory in your DPATH.  Alternatively, specify
>the full path for less.hlp (including the filename) in the environment
>variable LESSHELP.

Yes, I tried it all, but I get a sys0003 all the time. We *are* talking
about less 177 for os/2 right? 'Cause using less in a dos box works
fine, its the os/2 version that doesn't work.

Erik

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From: Michael.Hagerty@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Michael Hagerty)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Weird Mouse Behavior
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 11:12:00 -0100

Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096

I'm having a very strange problem with mice.  The application is Miracle
Piano.  The same situation occurs either under DOS or OS/2, with either
a MSC White Mouse or a BSR Ballistic Mouse (serial mouse on COM1).

Under DOS (in Miracle Piano), the mouse cursor slowly floats to the bottom
of the screen.  Under OS/2, the mouse cursor moves very rapidly to the
lower right corner of the screen.  To click on anything on the screen it
is necessary to move the mouse past the the clickbox and then click as it
races throught the box.

The tech support people at Software Toolworks, while helpful, have been
completely unable to provide a fix for this problem.  Since the same
problem is manifest with mice from two vendors (and the same happens with
the White Mouse in either MicroSoft or Logitech mode), I am convinced that
the problem is probably an interrupt problem.  What should I be looking
for?  I am completely flummoxed...

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)
 * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * First, kill all the lawyers [Shakespeare]
From: lclarke@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Lee Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: PMFAX & GATEWAY Telepath faxmodem
Keywords: fax modem
Date: 10 Oct 92 11:02:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have Gateway 2000's Telepath Fax Modem and PMFAX v. 1.16, which is the
latest version as of 10 Oct 1992. As Mr. Sipples reports in his mini-
review PMFAX is a superb product; tech support has also been quite
good. But PMFAX won't catch the documents you print from DOS, Wdoze,
or OS2 apps; rather it quits with an 'access violiation.' I talked 
with PMFAX (actually Sofnet) support people yesterday and they said
they were "negotiating" with Gateway to fix the problem. "The problem"
he said, is that Gateway is using a "proprietary chipset" on the 
Telepath. What, exactly, _that_ means I do not know, since it 
has the Rockwell set, which is not proprietary. I asked, "What's your
advise?" Answer: "We're determined to fix this. Call us every week
to find out. I also suggest you call Gateway." He then gave me his
name. _THIS_ is the way to run a software company!!! Gateway's aware of 
the problem. Oh, PMFAX does send and receive perfectly FROM WITHIN
THE PROGRAM. The trouble is with the driver.

L. Clarke
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: Microsoft C6 prob in OS/2
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:27:12 GMT

In <1992Oct7.154143.2835@colorado.edu> doug@shako.Colorado.EDU (Doug McKnight) writes:


>Is there a problem with C6 under OS/2.
>I installed it and had repeatable failures with "access sharing  violation,
>Abort Retry Fail" or some such like every time i tried a build.

>Is this a known problem? It there a fix. 
>Tha machine is a clone 486 with adaptec 1522 scsi.

I presume that you mean under OS/2 2.0?  All I can say is that it's
working like a champ here.  I re-installed it under OS/2 2.0, just to
verify that this worked (and to get the OS/2 libraries and compiler
loaded).  I'd check your environment variables, especially LIB and
INCLUDE.  If these point to invalid directories, you may have problems. 
Quite possibly even the message shown above.

Posted (rather than emailed) in case others are having similar problems.
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Xref: sparky comp.os.os2:383 comp.os.os2.networking:1708
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Trap 000d error help
Date: 10 Oct 1992 22:32:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

After attempting to install TCP/IP, I got the following less than 
informative error screen:

Exception in device driver: LANMSG$$

TRAP 000d  ERRLD=0000  ERRACC=****  ERRLIM=*******

etc etc

The system detected an internal processing error
at location ## 00160:fff6452b-000d:a52b
60000, 9084

038600dl

Internal revision 6.412, 92/06/02

I tried recopying LANMSGDD.OS2 off the original disks again to no avail. 
Does anyone know what this message means and what can be done to correct it?

Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: jja@wsl.ie (John J. Allen)
Subject: Re: OS/2 because! (was NT: Why?)
Organization: Project Papyrus, AIRAID, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:02:06 GMT

philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
: >If you tell me OS/2 has`t Win3.1 support I tell you your beloved NT simply
: >doesn`t exist. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOTHING.
: 
:      Interesting - what OS am I using right now, then?  It said
: Windows NT when I started it up...
: 

Interesting - what OS am I using right now, then? It said OS/2 3.0 RS6000
when I started it up....

Prove me wrong?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly)
Subject: Re: Tidbits about NT and OS/2 from the trade rags.
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:38:19 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <7538@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu wrote:
> In article <1992Oct09.174713.178@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
> >      Still a valid interpretation.  OS/2 2.0, however, has shown
> >that competitive pricing can really help to sell an OS - I expect
> >Microsoft will learn something from that.
> 
> If it has, then why did it say "<$500"? I've already shown that there's
> nothing to gain from it, and quite a lot to lose.
>  
> >     Why is Zachmann more credible?  He clearly has an agenda.  So do
> >his editors.
> 
> Because he has little to gain by making up such an incident.

That makes him more credable?
MS's gains are of an understandable nature, purely financial.
Zachmanns gains are of a personal nature, hardly understandable.
He obviously has some sort of thing to gain by slamming MS every
chance he gets.  He has shown this in many of his articles.  I especially
like the one where he told people to go out and buy a word processor that
wasn't that great because it would keep money out of microsofts pockets.

petesk@microsoft.com
My Opinions...
From: x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Don't Compare with Amiga!
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:39:00 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <7539@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
> In article <1992Oct10.114324.5734@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>It works on a similar basis as
>>Desqview (which to correct some people here, is NOT preemptive, you set
>>the "ticks" for foreground and background).  
> 
> Sorry, but that alone doesn't make DV non-preemptive. It will cheerfully stop
> one application in its tracks to switch to the next one, something that
> Windows will not do. That attribute makes DV preemptive. The ticks settings
> merely instruct the scheduler how to select the next process to run.
> 

	This is incorrect, Desqview aware programs alone are capable of
telling DV that it doesn't need time but the processor still switches
to it and has to be told this.  DV is cooperative not preemptive, it
is just a lot better at it than Windows and has the ability of acting
almost preemptive which windows programs parently do not do.

					-Brad
From: lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (m.l. gore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: PowerPC or (P5 & P6)?
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:59:49 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>
>>Psst!  8514/a.
>>
>>
>Psst! Psst! xga-2
>
>1280x1024 resolution
>65,536 colors at 640x480
>1MB VRAM
>graphics coprocessor
>SVGA modes
>busmaster
>$270 (NEP)
>ISA version available from Radius
>
?
Pssssssst!

ATI Ultra + and Pro.do all this, and more, plus they are being shipped with
OS/2 drivers, something that appeals to me. Has anyone acually gotten their
hands on one of these???


                                            bvl
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