From: yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: 6.4, green card, freedom, money, et al.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:35:50 GMT

In article <12148@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu)
wrote:

+In article <29E7598A.1802@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
+>
+>	Be strong, man!  If you like to label yourself as a democracy FiGhtEr,
+>  	don't run away!!  Stay over there and change it to whatever you prefer!
+>	
+>	From the strategy point of view, you should be able to protect yourself
+>  	if you want to make something happen.  Seeking protection from a third
+> 	party does not help your pursuance at all.
+
+Shannon, it is long since you sold your 4 big freedom. Where is it now?
+Since you advocate 4 big freedom in China, why don't you try to carry it out
+in China? Why only advocate it in the States? Oh, I see, you need to protect
+yourself. May I ask which party is now protecting your freedom of speech?
+Third or fourth or fifth? Isn't it hypocratic?

	Thank you for mentioning my "4 big freedom".  This idea has obtained 
	good "market sharing".  I and my comrades will do whatever we can
	to implement these freedoms for China.  No matter how the 
	implementation works, i will not use my "4 big freedom" as a political
	execuse for my green card.  Paticularly, I did not and will not seek 
	any type of protection from any foreign governments.

	Also, my "4 big freedom" has got unbelievable, "operational" response
	from people in China.  

+>	Furthermore, Scott Horne's good doing does not reflect your bad doing, 
+>	and vice versa.
+
+Key word: vice versa. Should read as: doc is doing good, Scott is doing bad.

	Well, you havbe your freedom to declare this.

+>	2.  I myself had been excercising my freedom of speech in Beijing for
+>	    years and they never "simply arrest" me.  But I want to tell you, 
+>	    some FUCKED-UP professors at my university (in Beijing) tried to 
+>	    screw me very hard.  	
+
+Academically?

	totally non-academic.  Some people call that campus as
	Ke(science)Ji(tech)Dang(party)Xiao(school), and some call it as 
	concentration camp.

+>+    I deny chinese people owing anything to CCP!
+>
+>	Stick with the point!!  We are not generally talking about Chinese 
+>	people but Chinese Students and/or Scholars!!
+
+Shannon, don't tell me CSS are not Chinese, do you? Why do you use double
+standard while dealing with CCP and CSS?

	Don't put words in my mouth!! I have never said that the CSS are
	not Chinese.  But, not all the Chinese people declare that they are 
	democracy fighters.  More, not all the Chinese come to the US to 
	criticize the Chinese government.

+>+   A fundamental question: Who killed those demonstrated in TAM? Who?
+>+Chinese students here? or CCP in Beijing? Is CCP ( by the way donkey
+>+Scott always apologizes for ) order the killing of thousands in 1989?
+>
+>	You students caused the killing!! You did not give them any additional
+>	choice!
+
+Shannon, I really feel I have no additional choice after you said this. May
+I kill you?

	What?  you want to get two green cards for yourself?  (Beijing blood
	give you one green card, and my blood helps you with one more green
	card?)

shannon
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