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From: cstone@nodecg.ncc.telecomwa.oz.au (Charlie Stone 4915162)
Subject: Re: Peanut Scale?
Organization: Network Computer Centre, Telecom, Perth
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:48:05 GMT

In article <Bw2Fq0.Ksy@vcd.hp.com> dbingham@vcd.hp.com (David Bingham) writes:
>Are there any Peanut Scale (or Pistachio for that matter) modelers out
>there?
>

Yes,  there is at least one on the net here in W Australia.

Charlie Stone

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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: scratch building scale model rockets
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Distribution: rec.models.scale
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:08:53 GMT

I'm about to embark on a scratch construction project for a couple of
static display models of the Single Stage To Orbit (SSTO) DC-X rocket. The
1/10 scale model will be about 4 feet tall and somewhat larger than a foot
in diameter. 

The fairly challenging part of the project seems to be the rocket's shell,
which I am planning to build quarter cylinder plug sections to mold balsa
around. These will be joined together over a system of plywood formers,
glued, then finished over with fiberglass.

If you have any good ideas about such a project or are just interested,
please contact me by email.

Regards,

L.
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From: JECHRIST@130.187.170.178 (JEFF CHRISTENSEN)
Subject: Re: Modelcad
Organization: This space intentially left blank
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:04:53 GMT
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> 
> In article <9OCT199214344928@rosie.uh.edu>, st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver) writes:
> |> In article <9210091342.AA22377@spot.src.honeywell.com>, stauffer@src.honeywell.com (Don Stauffer) writes...
> |> >   Is anyone using MODELCAD?  I have been using some shareware CAD software
> 
> 	I am also interested in this Modelcad.  If anyone knows how to get this program, please let me know!

I own ModelCAD and have used it on an IBM PC (8088 & 386).  It is a good
package and American Small Business Computers are a good company to deal
with.  They have been very responsive to any questions/help I have
needed.  ModelCAD has enough power to do anything you need to on small
scale drawings.  Not that it can't do a large drawing, it can, but it is
not a complete drafting package with all commands that make drawing
easier.  This is definitely not a limitation for a low end package like
this.  I eventually upgraded to DesignCAD 2D (also a ASBC product) which
is very nice and actually more than I need (I enjoy playing on computers
in addition to designing my RC gliders/planes).

Jeff
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From: edh117a@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr R. Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Politically Correct Models
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:26:18 GMT


Perhaps I am not the best qualified person to express an opinion on
this subject because I was born in a country (Mexico) where nobody
bothers about swastikas.

But I think that there is a deeper issue behind the accuracy of
a model, and that is history.

Ideally, history should be concerned with truth. If somebody
erases the swastikas form the tail of a Bf-109 or from the
sides of a P-51, it won't change the historic fact that these
planes flew with swastikas on them.

Therefore, I think that removing swastikas from an airplane
tank or ship that in real fact carried them (or to add them
to subjects that didn't) is paramount to trying to change
history and telling people that WWII never happened or 
that the Germans never won a battle during that conflict
(Hollywood's standard message).

I understand that a lot of people suffered during the conflict
but that includes people in Germany as well. Should we avoid
modelling a B-17 or a B-24 in order not to offend them? After
all these types killed several hundreds of thousands of German
citizens. Should we avoid modelling the B-29 (specially the
Enola Gay) in order not to offend the Japanese?

What would you think of me if I told you not to mention
the State of Texas to me because I get offended because 
up to 1848 it was Mexican territory? 

There are several conclusions to this.

1. No matter what you do (not only in modelling, but in everything
in life) you are likely to incomodate or to offend someone.

2. People that get offended by an aircraft displaying a swastika
on its tail are probably not modellers and very unlikely to see
your model.

3. The actions of WWII are, on average, 50 years old. They belong
to history and history doesn't change by taking swastikas out
of German models.

4. The swastika ban considers only the feelings of europeans
that were on the wrong side of the Wehrmacht. It doesn't consider
the feelings of other peoples involved in WWII or in other wars.

5. The modeller should consider his or her own feelings while
building a model.

Here in Australia we have a big arabic muslim community. March
1991 wasn't the best time to put an israeli aircraft in a model
expo. I did it and nothing happened. Why? Because people that
may get offended by an aircraft with blue stars of David on
the wings do not attend modelling shows.

Of course these opinions are only mine.

Rafael Rodriguez
V.C.A.H. Ltd. Australia
rrg@vcah.EDU.AU
From: augustho@aludra.usc.edu (August Horvath)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: F104 kits etc.
Date: 12 Oct 1992 20:19:55 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct12.111804.11365@waikato.ac.nz> matt@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>And while we're at it, does anyone make a good model of a Supermarine Spitfire
>in 1/72 scale, particularly a Mk VIII or IX?  Most of the kits available
>seem pretty old and look it.

My favorite 1/72 Spit kit is the Heller 1/72 Mk.XVI.  This is the only kit
of the 2-stage Merlin Spitfire that I know that properly renders the propeller,
spinner, and the chin intake.  Unfortunately it is the clipwing, bubble canopy
version so it is not easy to convert to a Mk.VIII/XI.  I find that the
Matchbox Mk.IX has a pretty good general shape, so a good replica can be had
by using the prop, spinner, chin scoop and landing gear of the Heller on the
Matchbox kit.  Also get yourself one of those vac-formed replacement canopies
from Squadron, because no injection-molded kit canopy has the right shape
without excessive distortion.
From: Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.com
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Removing Chrome from plastic.
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:09:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrum.1992Oct16.120953.28572
Followup-To: Removing Chrome from plastic.
Organization: Xerox
Originator: msprague@superior

> To remove Chrome plate from plastic kits, without leaving a film,
> I have found household bleach is best. Any resedue then washes off
> in water. Only takes a few minutes and the "chrome" sinks to the
> bottom as a sludge.

Hmmm, I read in a modeling magazine (Scale Auto Enthusiast) that the
author used Clorox bleach to remove chrome from parts.  Having some in
the house, I tried it.  After leaving the parts in the bleach for a
couple of days, with little if any effect, I then went back to amonia,
which removed the chrome in about 10 minutes.  I wonder what went wrong?

Of course, one thing I have not tried, is putting the parts in bleach
AFTER the chrome was removed, to see if it removes the film.  That's
certainly worth a try.

I also received a private response to my initial inquiry on removing
chrome, as follows.  I have not tried the method yet.

> Use a little drano (the dry crystal kind) in water.  Be 
> carefull, it's caustic, but will remove the chrome quickly
> and I haven't noticed any residues.

			~ Mike  (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)
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From: beowulf@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (john.a.foley)
Subject: 20mm Skytrex WW II AFvs
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:16:54 GMT

I'm interested in some of the AFVs and Guns produced
by Skytrex in 20mm.  Anybody have any experience with
them?  Thanks.

John Foley
beowulf@research.att.com

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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: License Required ?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:07:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct09.075924.27908@hplb.hpl.hp.com> rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com writes:
>	Hi folks,
>
>	Does anyone know if you need a license to build a scale replica
>	of a car ? eg. me building a 1/8th scale XJ-220.
>

Here in the states, you don't need any license or prior agreement to
build your own model of anything as far as I know.  If you were going
to produce kits for sale, that would be another issue and probably
require some type of license.  I've never heard of anyone ever
needing a license to build a single (or many ffor that matter)
models for themselves.  I'd suspect things aren't any different
in the UK since there's certainly a good deal of model building
there also.

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From: simons@tuntu.think.com (Joshua Simons)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: wooden ship models
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:16:10
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: rec
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I'd like to start getting into building wooden models of sailing
ships, initially from kits. I'd appreciate any information on the
following:

	- a mail-order source for good quality ship models.

	- a mail-order source for good quality modelling tools.

	- some pointers on what tools are the most important to have

Thanks for any information.

-josh simons

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From: dbingham@vcd.hp.com (David Bingham)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Same Kit?
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:12:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.Bw2FL1.Kpw
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


  I can't speak about the specifics of the Revell/Matchbox Flower
kit in 1/72 but I can give you some general information. 
  It's very common for a company in one country (Matchbox) to 
license the distribution of a kit to a company in another (Revell).
It's like renting someone else's distribution resources. When I
worked as a hobby shop manager the biggest example of this was
the deal between Tamiya and MRC. It's really a win/win deal for
both companies. In many cases the buyer profits too through lower
prices and increased availability.

I hope this helps.

David Bingham
dbingham@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com
From: dbingham@vcd.hp.com (David Bingham)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Peanut sources
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:12:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.Bw8Lt9.556
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Well... That was some response! 

I'll include some comments and responses here. Pardon me if I ramble a bit. :)

Ron Williams' book IS and excellent one. However, it's now out of print
and rather difficult to come by. If you see one...BUY IT. If you don't
want it I know quite a few people who would like to get their hands on
it.

The three sources listed are good ones for peanut supplies (Peck, IMS, and
Micro-X). The service from IMS is excellent. The time to get your order 
back is the fastest of all of the mail order I've done, and I do quite
a bit. Peck has a great selection of stuff.

If you are new to flying models, I'd like to suggest the books by...
uh-oh. I forgot his name but the series includes building and flying
the 'Sky Bunny'. It's a great set of books guaranteed to teach you
the fundamentals of building, flying, and trimming planes. There's 3
books in the series. I can scare up the titles and authors if anyone
is interested.

Hannan's Runway (address available upon request) carries a series of
8 1/2" x 11" booklets called 'Peanuts & Pistachios' as well as a book
called 'Peanut Power'. All are written by Bill Hannan (see the 
connection? :) ) I believe they are also available through Peck Polymers.
However, Hannan's Runway is also a good catalog to have and Bill can
probably put you in touch with active peanut/pistachio flyers in your
area.

Peanuts are scale flying aircraft with a wingspan of not more than 13" 
OR a length of not more than 9". Pistachios have a wingspan limit of
not more than 9". Flying times for the Peanuts go around 90 secondss;
pistachios go around 35-50 seconds.

If anyone out there is in the Portland/Vancouver area I'd love to hear
from you.

Feel free to email with any questions/comments.

David Bingham
dbingham@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com
From: Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Politically Correct Models
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:07:56 GMT
Followup-To: Politically Correct Models
Organization: Xerox
Originator: msprague@superior


	I think I was the one who brought up Political Correctness.
I think there is a GREAT difference between putting a swastika on
say a wall (or on someones house), and putting one on a model of a
German airplane!!  I wouldn't even think of doing the first, but I
expect the decals to be there (AND untouched) and would certainly
use them when building the plane.

	A model is just that.  I am building a minature version of an
actaul thing that existed!  It is NOT political statement of any kind,
and it is NOT meant to offend anyone.  If someone DOES take offence,
then that person is taking things too far, and should get a life.
While I am strongly against what the Nazis did during WW II, that does
NOT stop me from admiring what the Germans were able to build in the
form of airplanes.  There are a lot of interesting and strange modeling
subjects there.

	As to Political Correctness, I am not a fan either.  I feel
that you should avoid saying or doing something because you KNOW
it's wrong, and you CARE about not hurting someone.  You should not
feel you have to behave in a certain way, because it is politically
correct.

	Chuckle, for that matter, the swastika symbol is a lot older
than the Nazis.  Off the top of my head, I don't remember where it
origionally came from, but I think it was some sort of religious
symbol at one time.

			~ Mike  (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)

P.S.  I lost the bloody note where someone mentioned a good set of
aftermarket decals for the Me-110.  Could someone send me a note on
that again?
From: acarr@zeus.calpoly.edu (Lyssa)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Dollhouse Miniatures
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:16:57 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

I am just posting to introduce myself to any dollhouse miniatures collectors
who might be out there reading this.  If you are a collector of miniatures,
and you would like to start up a dialogue, please respond to my e-mail
address, I would like to hear from you. 

Also, I would especially like to hear from you if you are in Canada, my
husband and I will be going through on a train this winter, and it would be 
nice to have a pen-pal that we could visit while we're there.  Of course, we'll
only be making a few stops along our trip, but by some chance maybe you live
in one of the cities at which we'll be stopping.

Hope to hear from miniatures collectors soon.

-- Aimee

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From: bishopjl@infonode.ingr.com (John L Bishop)
Subject: Re: Swastikas 
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:52:58 GMT

In article <CRUSADER.92Oct15184620@juhani.it.lut.fi> crusader@lut.fi (Mikko Hy|kki) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.100606.11418@waikato.ac.nz> matt@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>
>  Nazi occupation.  Interestingly, the swastikas don't seem to bother them,
>  but they say if kits with swastikas were sold in Europe someone would break
>  into the shop and trash the place.  I don't know about this last bit; they've 
>Well, kits with swastikas are sold in Finland and I haven't heard of anyone
>trashing kit stores because of it. 

Hmm - I recall seeing pictures of Finnish aircraft that had blue swastika
markings on a round white background.   Perhaps the anti-nazi feelings are
not so strong in Finland as in the occupied countries.


							John

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From: vkelly@mizar.usc.edu (Valerie Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Still looking for 82 Vette (1/8th) Monogram
Date: 16 Oct 1992 20:43:16 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

Hi Again.. Sorry about my first message, it went out incomplete.
Finishing... My husband bought the 82 Vette at an auction however it
came without the instructions/blueprint diagram. Unfortunately this
has left the model in a box for months now. I noticed this newsgroup
and I told my husband that there still may be a flicker of hope. So 
here we are trying the net. We have tried the libraries and several hobby
and model stores and even tried writing Mongram without any luck.

If there is anyone out there in Netland who has the diagram and instructions 
for this wonderful car, which happens to be my dream car also. We would 
really appreciate it if you can part with it. Even if you know of a place 
where we can check here locally in Los Angeles County or where else we can 
write, please let us know.

Thank's in advance!

Valere 
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: Re: Liberty shop model
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.100746.20047@alf.uib.no>, s325@brems.ii.uib.no (Oyvind Brusevold) writes...
> 
>In article <1992Oct7.104615.1@summer.chem.su.oz.au>, piton_m@summer.chem.su.oz.au writes:
>|> Micheal:
>|> 
>|> It seems that there a quite a few of us [wooden and plastic model ship 
>|> builders] out there, but I suspect that few have computers on our desks...
>    .
>    .
>    .
> 
>Ok! Here is another model ship builder! For a long time i have wanted to build
>autenthic models. So, eureca! My birthday present was a model from the danish
>manufacturer Billing Boats. Ever heard of them? It's a beautiful model. However, it is
>my first model, and I really don't know how and where to start.
> 
>So, this group turned up on my News, an it looked interesting!
> 
>Does anyone of you wooden model ships builders have any tip, like any suggested books
>or something? Maybe some of you have experiences with 'Billing Boats' ?
> 
>I would bee very grateful! Don't hesitate to e-mail me.
> 
>PS. It's a wooden model ship. Size: l.o.a: 75cm, height:59cm. DS
> 
Oyvind,

Is this model for static display or radio control?  I've built only one wooden
model ship in my lifetime.  It was a Sterling classic:  the Chris Craft 50'
Catalina Cruiser.  All the parts were prefabricated and the 33 inch boat was
meant for radio control.  I glassed the hull and she turned out great for a 
first effort.  Besides, she was cheap.... only $50!

If what you are talking about is a "classic" sailing vessel, then I can't give
any advice.  I don't know the first thing about rigging (tying them correctly 
and accurately is hellacious from what I hear) and very little about planking. 
Besides, I've only worked with balsa, basswood and mahoganey.  I couldn't begin 
to tell you about the different properties of the many different kinds of wood 
that ship builders use.  

Still, I want to learn more about wooden ship building.  It sounds fascinating.
Now, if only I had the time, then I would build to my hearts content!

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu
> 
> 
>-------------
>Oyvind Brusevold,      email: s325@brems.ii.uib.no
>Dep. of informathics, University of Bergen, NORWAY
From: ansari@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Morteza Ansari)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Balloon or Blimp models???
Date: 17 Oct 92 04:46:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University


Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any knowledge of balloons or blimps?  I have been looking
around for sometime and can not find anything.  I like to build a flying model
preferably a blimp.  Send me email and I will post a summury after I get some
info.  Any kind of help is greatly appreciated.



Thanx,

morteza

Email: morteza@innovus.com
   or: ansari@maccs.mcmaster.ca
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Modelcad
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:34:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.9OCT199214344928
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9210091342.AA22377@spot.src.honeywell.com>, stauffer@src.honeywell.com (Don Stauffer) writes...
>   Is anyone using MODELCAD?  I have been using some shareware CAD software
>to do model drawings for scratchbuilding.  The adds for MODELCAD sure look
>good.  But then I don't always believe all I read in ads, especially for
>software.  Anyway, if anyone has tried the package, I'd be interested in
>impressions.

Hey, I posted a query on this a while back.  I want to know about MODELCAD
too AND the ftp site where you get your CAD stuff.  I've wanted to use one
of those tools for quite sometime now.  Thanks.

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: c34657b@saha.hut.fi (Tuomas Viljanen)
Subject: Re: Me-110 Model
Organization: The Nibelungenlied Incorporated
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:18:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.131856.12055@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> coirier@lerc.nasa.gov writes:
>howdy folks:
>
>does anyone know who makes a good 1/48th scale Me-110?
>
>i'd really like to add one to my collection.
>
Try that made by Fujimi. It is quite nice, although it may be hard to find.
 

  ++ Tuomas Viljanen                     ++ For a battle like Crecy, you do  ++
  ++ Lahderanta 20 A 19                  ++ not need a military genius like  ++
  ++ SF-02720 Espoo 72 FINLAND           ++ Edward III. All you need is an   ++
  ++ 358-0-592175 or c34657b@saha.hut.fi ++ idiot like the Duke of Alencon.  ++
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