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From: "bill young" <bill.young@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: supras <again!>
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:32:46 EST
Reply-To: "bill young" <bill.young@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

One of my friends is still experiencing problems with using a Supra
v.32bis modem on her system (86DX-40).  The strange part is that her
modem works fine on my system (386DX-20).  We've tested different
cables, modems, cables, serial cards, without success.  The problems
aren't consistent and basically concern sending and receiving faxes
reliably.  The only other thing I can think of is perhaps her phone
lines are either very noisy or overloaded.  How does one calculate the
load capacity of phone lines?  Most phone related items have a Load
Number associated with them.  Any ideas?

..Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston)
Subject: Re: Problem on SupraFaxModem
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:09:15 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah

In article <7841@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> jong@wright.seas.ucla.edu (Jong Y. Lee) writes:


   Hi netters.
   My suprafaxmodem acts weird from time to time.  Whenever it notices some
   noise on the line, such as someone picked up the phone or something, it
   fallbacks to 12000 or 9600bps, and then it freezes.  I guess it still receives
   the data because I could still see what the other end is doing, but I can't
   type anything.  I still can shell out doing +++ but when I get back with
 

This seems like a minor problem.  My 2400 baud modem will hang up
and/or totally sieze up when someone picks up the phone.  It got so
distracting, and I spend so much time connected to the school, that I
now have a seperate line dedicated to my modem.
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				the Final Examination of the University should
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: Eric Hoffmann <ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Supra's Dialtone detection
Organization: CCS
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:47:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.031802.31@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> Stephan A. Puga,
sap@sactoh0.sac.ca.us writes:
>What was the resolution to a Supra 14.4K not being able to detect
>the dialtone?  Does anyone have a clue as to what the voltage on
>the line should be?  Please, this is the second time I have posted
>concerning this subject, somebody answer me!!!

I had this same problem. In fact, I witnessed this in two SupraFax
V.32bis modems. When I called Supra's tech support I was told that this
was a problem found in a few modems, and that the new ROM's would address
this issue as well as adding other capabilities. My situation did not
involve the modem connected in parallel with other phones.

I believe that Supra is shipping out the new ROM's to all registered
owners.
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: DISCUSSION: Maximum transmission speed via phone line 
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 21:36:46 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

ok, first of all, my apologies about the fact that this is completely
off of the topic...but there's something that appeared in the post to
which I'm following up that simply does *NOT* make sense.....  and I'm
hoping the UUCP gurus in this group can tell me what's going on.....

INTRO:  I'm running Snews version 1.12, with UUPC.  for those who
don't know, Snews is a news program for PCs, and UUPC is UUCP for
the PC <grin>.

In article <2x_nkwq.wolfgang@netcom.com> wolfgang@netcom.com writes:

> Here is an earlier post, simply Shannon and some noise figures I deemed
> reliable:
> 
> Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
> Path: n5ial!mork!wolfgang
> From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
> Subject: Shannon revisited
> Message-ID: <#qajc8mwolfgang@netcom.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 03:23:43 GMT
> Organization: Netcom

notice the Path: line?  n5ial!mork!wolfgang ???

now, I suspect that my news software might have seen the Newsgrous:
header, and assumed it needed to add a Path: statement after that...
but where did it pick up the !mork part?

first of all, there are no machines that get a news feed from me
(Snews can't even do that!), and there are no machines that I feed
for e-mail.... in other words, I am a tail-site.  n5ial!jim (me) is
the only e-mail address on this machine (all others go to Postmaster,
who happens to be me).

in addition to that, this machine (n5ial --- named for my amateur
radio callsign) only calls one site:  gagme, so it doesn't even
know of the existence of any machine called mork....

I looked in the raw data file for comp.dcom.modems (Snews uses a single
file for each newsgroup), and sure enough, this information is right
in that file....  in fact, I did a grep on ``mork'' in all of the
newsgroup files, as well as in the Snews src files, and found one and
only one match...the above line.

can anyone please explain how that got there?  newsreader with a sense
of humor was my first thought, but mork doesn't appear in the src....

any other ideas?  did anyone else get this same line?
   --jim

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From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: How does a called modem distinguish voice/data/FAX?
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:57:24
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com

Two questions:
* I've seen the v5.00 notes Michael Schuster posted describing how a ZyXEL
  modem indicates what it thinks is on the other end of the phone line, but I
  don't understand how it can distinguish (1) silence because the calling
  data modem hasn't heard the answering tones long enough yet, from (2)
  silence because the person who called is listening to the "answering
  machine" message being transmitted in voice mode.  What am I missing?

* If the calling modem sent a brief identifying tone like FAX machines do,
  distinguishing voice from FAX and data calls would be easy.  This makes me
  wonder if anyone's given any thought to a completely general mechanism --
  have the caller volunteer not just a brief set of tones, but also encode
  some kind of identifying number, with the number space an infinitely
  expandable set like SNMP.  Leading octets could be used to separate out
  product classes, like FAXes, modems, security systems, videophones, etc.,
  and later octets could be used to identify manufacturers or capabilities.
  The absence of any identifying information or tones would indicate a
  regular voice call.  Anyone heard of anything like that, or any suitable
  alternatives that do the same job, in the works?  ISDN?
 -WBE
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gvb@telly.on.ca (George VandeBunte)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL ROM 408a to 412c changes
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:07:53 GMT
Keywords: ZyXEL FAX CLASS2


>I have written some code, which flawless received fax messages with a
>ZyXEL ROM 408a using class 2 fax mode. Then i upgraded to ROM 412c,
...
.>What i actually are doing is to give a AT+FDR followed by XON and DC2
>characters. This worked fine under ROM 408a, but now i get the expected
>"CONNECT" messages and nothing more happens until my time limit of
>2 minutes strikes.
>Does anybody know, what ZyXEL has changed between the two ROM releases?
 
You are probably sending the dc2 too soon.  When you issue the at+fdr
I think the zyxel responds with +fcr, then +fdis with the parameters both
of which you can ignore.  Then you get the Connect message.  It is
only then that you should send the DC2 character.  
 

 
 
 George VandeBunte  416 5341508
From: corson@dice.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Corson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Best USR v32bis price
Date: 18 Aug 1992 21:20:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: corson@dice.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dice

Hi,

I want to buy a USR v32bis modem with fax.  Can anyone out there point
me to a vendor with the lowest price?

Thanx,
TC
From: jroth@aegis.or.jp (Joel Roth)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: real or imagined differences in phone networks worldwide
Date: 16 Aug 92 10:04:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

Could any phone/modem gurus give me an idea of just how different
phone network characteristics are worldwide with regard to modem
compatibility and safety?

And how really different are modems approved for different countries?

Are the differences simply to satisfy bureaucrats, or do they affect
how the modems operate in a significant way?

I am really in the dark about all this, and I find it a handicap in
negotiations with a particular modem manufacturer who says my troubles
stem from using a U.S. model in Japan.

Thanks.
From: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ATI 9600 ETC/E Modems
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:57:00 GMT
Reply-To: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Does anybody know anything about the "ATI 9600 ETC/E" modem?

An associate of mine works with a government organization that
apparantly has these puppies set up as answering modems on their
Novell network using the "On-Lan" software package.  He says that
another ATI 9600 ETC/E modem is able to connect to them successfully
at 9600BPS, but he can't seem to get his V.32bis-compliant modem (an
AT&T Comsphere 3810) to connect at all.

Of course, he doesn't have access to a manual, and he can't send me
an ATI modem to look at (I'm 100 miles away from his site).

Are these in fact V.32-compliant modems, or do they use some sort
of proprietary protocol?  Do they feature any sort of error-correction
and compression protocols?

                   Bert Tyler   (bert.tyler@satalink.com)
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: WB hangs occasionally
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:10:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.184850.13845@isus.UUCP>, hoyt@isus.UUCP (Hoyt A. Stearns jr.) writes:
> ....
> I've had it not answer; hold the phone off hook with no carrier
> indefinitely, even with a 12 minute timeout set (S7?); put a busy-signal
> like wide band carrier out when answering (tones not in any modem standard,
> sounds more like a processor crash);  it fails to reload defaults with 
> data terminal ready transitions, etc.
> 
> There is really no excuse for this.  At least it should have a software
>watchdog timer to reset in a crash or lockup....

> ....
> The work around for me is to have cron turn off the power to the modem
> every night in the wee hours.

There is also the deadlock of some kind in the old T2500, where CTS is
stuck false, DCD true, both modems on the line, no data moving, and
lasting for days.  This can be easily repeated in about 3 minutes by
stuffing as much data as the modems will accept (honoring CTS) at
19.2.  (I use SLIP and `ping -s 3000` to saturate and so lock them up.)

I think such bugs are excusable, if only because I have pulled such
stunts myself.  Watchdog timers are dangerous and can be expensive if
you do not already have a timer mechanism for other purposes.  Without
a lot of care, watchdogs can make the system (modem, computer,
whatever) less reliable.  What is inexcusable is refusing to
acknowledge such bugs or eventually fixing them.  Perhaps no new
firmware is planned for the T2500 nor has been planned for the 18
months or 2 years.  That would be an acceptable excuse for not fixing
the T2500 bug, since it is not reasonable to expect PROMS for $500
modems without maintenance fees forever.  However, I cannot think of
any excuse for Telebit's persistent refusal to acknowledge the T2500
bug.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com

(I'll try not to go too non-linear again if someone from Telebit again
claims to have never heard of this.)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: supras <again!>
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:52:48 GMT

"bill young" <bill.young@canrem.com> writes:

>One of my friends is still experiencing problems with using a Supra
>v.32bis modem on her system (86DX-40).  The strange part is that her
>modem works fine on my system (386DX-20).  We've tested different
>cables, modems, cables, serial cards, without success.  The problems
>aren't consistent and basically concern sending and receiving faxes
>reliably.  The only other thing I can think of is perhaps her phone
>lines are either very noisy or overloaded.  How does one calculate the

Have you moved her machine to your location and try it there?

How about your machine at her place?

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 16,800 and voice-mail
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:29:34 GMT
	<1992Aug14.195746.13720@news.uit.no>
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com
In-reply-to: borgen@stud.cs.uit.no's message of 14 Aug 92 19:57:46 GMT

borgen@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Noest) asks:
> What kind of protocol does the 16800 use? Is it compatible with anything on
> this planet?
> (I think I'll buy a Zyxel any minute now)

It's advertised as a ZyXEL special protocol, so it's only compatible with
another ZyXEL modem.  But, last I saw, there were ZyXEL modems on this
planet.  :-)
 -WBE
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: $299 Qblazer
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:19:21 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Earlier this month I complained that "the guy from Telebit" (Fritz
Mueller) had not replied to my queries regarding the possibility
of a V.32bis Qblazer.

I just received mail from him, apologizing for the delay (he'd been
on vacation) and, for the fact that he can't comment on future
products. As has been pointed out here, I can't ask for more
than that.

In the meantime I =did= order the QBlazer and it's a fine little
modem, especially for the price. Only negatives: battery life is
too short, battery rattles in compartment (needs foam padding), and
on-off switch has too little travel and too little tactile feedback (hard
to tell if it's on/off).

Does anyone have the pinouts for the miniDIN-10 RS232 socket on the
modem itself?

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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 16550 vs. 16550AFN
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:05:23 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

eputnam@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>I was just wondering if any modem manufactures (or anyone) would still be
>putting 16550 chips on their internal modems.  The reason I ask this is that
>I am planning on purchasing an internal 14.4kbs modem and plan to use it with
>both OS/2 2.0 and Windows 3.1.  As I understand, the 16550 is defective and
>the chip to have is the 16550AFN.  Is this correct?  If so, do I need to make
>absolutely sure that I am getting an "AFN" chip, or am I safe with any modem
>which claims to have a 16550?
*----
It's not even something you should worry about.  The concern is that
the modem has to keep up with the maximum data throughput rate.  If
you use an external modem, then your computer's hardware (your serial
port) has to be able to handle the data rate.  When you use an
internal modem, you eliminate that potential bottleneck.  Who cares
what kind of uart is used on an internal modem (or indeed, that one
is used at all)?  If the modem can handle the maximum data rate,
then a different uart chip will make no difference at all.  A modem
doesn't have to emulate a 16550AFN to have buffering on board.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: cfw@unixland.natick.ma.us (Christopher Wroten)
Subject: Gateway 2000 Telepath Mess
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:57:38 GMT

I posted this article on Gateway 2000's BBS this morning (8/14/92)

Sigh...

/Telepath #99548 14-AUG-92 07:16
From: Cfw
To: ** ALL **
Re: Watch out when altering your order!!  

I placed my telepath order on February 25. It was acknowleged by GW2K
on March 5, so I was in the queue pretty early. On the same order I had
requested an ATI Ultra Graphics card. In mid-June, I called GW2K and
cancelled the ATI Graphics Ultra card part of the order. "No problem!",
said the customer service person. "Your Telepath is still on order!".

So, yesterday (8/13) I called customer service to find out why I
haven't yet received the modem as I was told I would, having placed the
order in March. To my absolute dismay, I was told that when I took the
ATI Ultra Graphics card off the order in mid-June, GW2K actually
cancelled the *entire* order and put in a *new* order with a mid-June
order date; ie, I got bumped out of the queue, and that I now wouldn't
be getting the modem until August 27 (sure.)

Needless to say, I was *ANGRY* and indicated this to the nice lady at
the other end of the phone. She spoke to her supervisor and told me
that the mixup shouldn't have happened, it was their mistake, and that
the supervisor would "see what she could do."

This is just ducky.
 
Dear Mr. Prez Ted:

When someone asks me what I think of GW2K's business practices, I am
not going to be kind. "Seeing what she can do" doesn't jibe with the
guaranteed ship dates you promised. It's *YOUR* problem you changed my
order date. I expect you to ship me a modem *with manual* TODAY by
overnight express. That's what "she can do" ought to mean to you.

"See what you can do" to remove the bad taste you are leaving in
people's mouths by this fiasco.

Christopher Wroten
cfw@unixland.natick.ma.us
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: sep@netcom.com (Scott Pendleton)
Subject: Re: TB TrailBlazer+ for sale
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 20:43:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Just to let you know... The Telebit has been sold. Thanks to all that
inquired. Take care...

Scott
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From: sp@questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Pershing)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL version 5 ROMS
Summary: DO NOT USE
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:10:28 PDT
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670

The ZyXEL version 5 ROM files were erroneoulsy assumed to be a normal
upgrade release from ZyXEL USA.

This is not the case.  The files rm500s which *were* on this site were
BETA copies.

As betas, there are not for general release, so users who requested and
obtained them from our mail-server are requested *not* to use them,
as there may be faults which will be corrected in the final release.

When the version 5 ROMs are available, they and the documentation will
be available for mail-server request from this site.

Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

--
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  FREE access to Environ, Sci, Med, & AIDS news, and more.  [also UUCP]
        on a ZyXEL-1496S v.42bis, v.32bis, v.33, up to 16,800bps.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush)
Subject: Re: V.35 interface for PC?
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon, US
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:37:32 GMT

hope@huracan.cr (Theodore Hope) writes:
> Does anyone know who makes/sells a V.35 interface card for a PC-type machine
> (preferable accessible under DOS)?
> With existing public-domain router software (ka9q, pcroute) for DOS, it would
> be nice to connect V.35-compatible equipment (CSU/DSU).

TJ hacked NOS for DOS with a sync card with V.35 at 56kb.  Write to

    Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.fidonet.org

randy
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From: daniel@blackhl.hacktic.nl (Daniel Ockeloen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Binkleyterm and Dallas Fax 14.4k modem...
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:27:02 GMT
Organization: The Black Hole BBS, Utrecht Holland
NewsSoftware: Rnf 0.6b

>I'm having a problem running Binkleyterm (2.50) with a Dallas Fax 14.4k 
>modem.  When in unattended mode, BT will not recognize the "ring" signals
>sent by the modem, and will therefore never answer the phone... but in
>Terminal mode, the "ring"s appear onscreen.  When exiting unattended mode
>(into terminal mode) after the phone has been ringing, all the "ring"s will
>appear onscreen at once... as if they BT was ignoring the modem before.

In IMHO you forgot to create a event for it, it must have a B (bbs) or M (mail)
try this in your binkley.evt file (remove all other 'demo' events) :

event all 00:00 23:59 B C M


>Has anyone else had this problem?  And if you solved it, could you please 
>send me a config file?

i think it's your binkley.evt not your binkley.cfg

>   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
>   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
>hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             Valhalla BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k

Hope this is it.

Daniel.

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