From: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Peterson)
Subject: Re: Clinton's In, Bushie's OUT!
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:48:21 GMT
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In article <1992Nov8.200751.22154@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>, johnson@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Art Johnson) writes...
>In article <1d9rv6INNluc@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.GTD@forsythe.stanford.edu  
>(Gabrielle Daniels) writes:
> 
>> Let's give President Clinton a chance to show his stuff.
> 
>     No question that Clinton is preferable to Bush. However, I think in  
>the end he will turn out to be a mixed bag wrt issues of importance to  
>black Americans. The race-baiting by government officials will end, or at  
>least be greatly toned down, thankfully. Several of the senior members of  

It will definatly END, not toned down.

>the civil rights leadership will probably get appointed to influential  
>government positions, either in the judiciary, the bureaucracy, or in the  
>Clinton Cabinet. Gen. Powell, being basically a liberal Republican, will  
>probably get bounced from his post as head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,  
>though. 

Actually Powell has never let his party affiliation become known.  Since
his Chairman position is supposed to be free of party politics.  But, he's
widely believed to be a democrat.  I expect Clinton to either keep him
at the chairman position, or ask him to become Sec. of Defense. 

> 
>     Clinton ran as the champion of the middle and the upper middle class;  
>consequently, it is middle and upper middle class blacks who stand to  
>benefit from his Administration. On education, his National Trust Fund  

True, he did run as such.  But, you should at least read his WHOLE plan,
before dismissing his programs for the poor.

> 
>     Clinton's urban agenda...well, I really haven't seen much of one.  
>[..stuff deleted regarding some misconceptions about a couple of plans..]

I should post his complete proposals to this newsgroup, so at least
we can have a discussion about the actual plans.  

>     I think you get the idea. Clinton will do OK by middle and  
>upper-middle class blacks, but I don't think much will change for poor  
>blacks. A mixed bag, but still better than Bush. I guess that's something.

Well, I believe that after reading his plans, they will definatly help the
poor.  They won't solve the problems entirly, obviously, no one can do that.
But, they will change the direction that poverty and the poor are moving in.
Also, keep in mind that these programs are only HIS ideas during the campaign.
(Actually, Congressman Wrangle added a bunch of plans to Clinton's program too)
There are going to be plenty of ideas, programs, and plans that will be
bought up by the Black Caucus, and Clinton himself during the next 4 years.
Even regarding his Health care plan, that is not the one that will be passed 
by congress, since there are something like 8 different plans floating
around.  He'll have probably come up with some sort of plan that combines a
lot of these other plans for it to pass.  Believe it or not, there are
provisions in these plans to help medical care be available to areas of the
country that previously did not (Sort of like medical clinics, my memory
is vague on this).  Anyway, all we can do is hope for the best, and check
what's happening 4 years from now.  Then we can comment on where Clinton
helped or not.


-Chris