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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Genesis Live: Good disc/Bad disc

I just got the info on the new Genesis live disc which comes out today:

The Way We Walk Volume I -- The Shorts
        1. Land of Confusion
        2. No Son of Mine
        3. Jesus He Knows Me
        4. Throwing It All Away
        5. I Can't Dance
        6. Mama
        7. Hold on My Heart
        8. That's All
        9. In Too Deep
        10. Tonight Tonight Tonight
        11. Invisible touch

Pretty uninteresting stuff. But wait!

  Inside, there's a black paper disc with the following information:

  Genesis live - the way we walk - Volume two: the longs
  Volume two of this Compact Disc will be available January 1993 at a
  specially reduced price for a limited period only.
  It will contain:
  Dance on a Volcano / Lamb lies down on Broadway / The Musical Box /
  Firth of Fifth / I know what I like / Driving the last spike / Domino
  - Part 1 - In the glow of the night / Part 2 - The last domino /
  Fading lights / Home by the sea / Drum duet


As the title says..."I know what I like!"


-Adam
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:45:56 CST
From:         Little Inquisito <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Grateful Dead
              18 Nov 1992 06:32:35 -0800 from <GC.AVW@FORSYTHE.STANFORD.EDU>

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:32:35 -0800 RAGIN CAJUN said:
>Can someone tell me how to access the bb that has info about the
>Grateful Dead.  I can't seem to find the listing on the directory
>and I want to find tickets to their concert.
>
>Thanks for any help.

You can access the GD bb on NETNEWS thru rec.music.gdead.

Renato
P.S. I thought the Ragin Cajun was James Carville! Did I miss something?
>
>Alma
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:08:20 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Riot Grrrls

This will be my only post today -- unless, of course, someone posts something i
ncredibly stupid, or ignorant, or outrageously sexy, or insults my honor or rep
utation, or I simply change my mind.

For all you Riot Grrrls fans I submit 2 items for your attention: article in NY
T (Pop Music Section), Nov. 15 "Punk's Girl Groups Are Putting the Self Back in
to Self-Esteem."  (Thank goodness it's not by Jon Pareles).  And second, the la
test catalog + fanzine blurb from K Records (P.O. Box 7154, Olympia, WA 98507.)
 Get it!!  Very cool list of offerings.

Renato "Taping rare psych for the birthday contest winners"
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From: peter@psychnet.psycol.uas.edu (Peter)
Subject: Re: Election/Triumph
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:51:05 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92110511263846@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET> writes:

>On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:19:00 EST <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> said:
>>From: SPGDAM%UCCVMA.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu at INTERNET 11/4/92 7:48AM (1
>>Subject: Re: Silence
>>
>>>David "Don't blame me- I voted for Ross Perot"
>>
>>Hey, me too. Glad Bush is out though.

>Just for kicks, I flipped the lever for Perot - then flipped it back. If, in
>4 years, things aren't working, I can always say "Hey, *I* flipped the lever
>for Perot!" and not be lying. Now, *voting* for him is another matter... ;-)

Since California was written off by Bush weeks before the election as hope-
less, I too voted my heart:  Ron Daniels.  Now this is a person who truly
doesn't put megabucks huge business first.  Too bad everyone's wired only
to megamedia, and have no clue about political platform realities.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:20:10 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cataloguing the record collection

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:13:51 CST Little Inquisitor said:
>Renato "Hopelessly addicted to records" Barahona
>
>. . . .  And, finally, how
>do the rest of you deal with 45s and 78s?

Well, personally, I favor the old reliable across-the-chest throw, alternating
with the vertical-down-at-the-side-and-snap-up toss, deciding on the fly
whether I'm trying to decapitate my target or play catch with it, but for
messing with people's minds, there's nothing like the outside-in-horizontal-
from-the-shoulder fling:  the fact that it rotates in the opposite direction
from what's normally done gives people fits :-)  (of course, it's harder to
control, but with that many records, you should get a lot of practice, right?)
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:17:39 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Malcolm x

  The half-moon and star is a muslim symbol, folks.

                       -Tim
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:09:23 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: M-PERSON and so on

Sonia wrote:

> On another subject--it's true that discussions of Malcolm X don't belong on
> this
> list, but I only want to say: LW, it makes no sense to judge anybody or
> anything on the basis of "an article."  What makes that particular article mor
> or less of an authority than some other article?????  Anything worth thinking
> about and arriving at an opinion on deserves MUCH more careful investigation.
> It's better to say "I don't know  what to think about this person" and
> leave the matter open than to read one "article" and think you know enough to
> make a wise judgment on an issue/person that is very complicated.

Not wishing to continue Malcolm thread and/or to argue with the above,
just want to note: even though Sonia is perfectly right logically, it
is quite natural for humans to make their opinions/judjements on the
basis of the information available, however limited it may be. Sometimes
I catch myself on having a pre-opinion about the band that I've never
heard. Sometimes, it can be based solely on the sound of the band's name
(hey producers, need a couple commercial hints? :)) Anyway, it is very
difficult to suspend one's judjement, waiting for more extensive source
information. So, forgive Lenny. Amen. :) :)

             Ilia.

> Sonia "completely lacking OMC today and can't even think of any except to say
> that thanks to Tim I have become an instant diedhard 1969-71 Jethro Tull fan"
>
> "so there"
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:26:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Musical wish list / Seattle Bands

>I just got off the phone with Santa and he says that if I locate his g-spot,
>I'll get a CD player for x-mas.  Libby wants a combination walkman/chastity
>belt....

>So what's on everyone else's musical wish lists?
                                    ..
For starters, I want the new Queensryche video: _Building Empires_.

Also, I've asked for the _Songs Of Freedom_ Bob Marley box set. 75 songs. Some
previously unreleased stuff, some alternate mixes...

I was trying to think of all the bands that have come out of Seattle. Here's my
list. Is there any logical explanation of why there are so many bands coming
from Seattle? Did I miss any?

Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Temple Of The Dog
Queensryche
Nirvana
Alice In Chains
Mother Love Bone
Metal Church
Screaming Trees??
Jane's Addiction??

Seeya,
Gary

p.s. Carol, when you sit on Santa's lap, tell him the first thing that pops up.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:39:34 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: OMC? We don't need no stinkin' OMC!

Bloomdido writes:
>
>BTW, in the same shop I looked around for a capella stuff for Marsha, and
>the closest thing I found was three barbershop quartet records-- no glee
>clubs. I know I used to see old Beelzebub records around, but now the shop
>I like to go to has the records at knee level, you gotta crawl around to
>look at them.
>
Thanks hon! It's really sweet of you. BTW - i've been meaning to tell y'all
- Hyde Park (the CHicago neighborhood where I "live") is the used bookstore
capital of the world, or so they claim. A few of the stores have excellent
music book selections. Any suggestions? What are your favorite music-type
readin materials? Also, if my access to these books is of interest to
anyone, drop ne a line...

>From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
>Subject:      Catalog
>
>> There's this neatocool catalog called "Music in Motion". It's like 60 pages
>> of music-type gifts, books, posters, clothing, tapes, jewelry, instruments
>> and paraphenalia, educational materials, home furnishings, T-shirts etc. I
>> though of you all when I saw the "Kitty sings the blues" T-shirt...
>
>Last time I was at Tanglewood I checked out their gift shop, and one item on
>sale was a "note" pad, heh heh, decorated with a little staff, with a G major
>triad notated thereupon. I was thinking of making myself obnoxious by asking
>the clerk, "Do you have this in a tritone?"

I doubt the clerk would have understood - they are notoriously staffed by
know-nothings - but the owners might take it as a suggestion! I got a laugh
out of it anyway...
>
>> All the ladies swoon when the tenor sings...
>> ...but the bass takes them home! - Norman Luboff
>
>I wish it were true :-(

Ah, but it is....You just don't hang out with (or sing for) the right
women....

Marsha
Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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From:         CMBIRCH@INDSVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Charlie Mopic Company

Hey allmusicers, this is a strange one.

    I hope someone on this list knows what movie/documentary I'm referinging
to here, but does anyone know who sings the song during the credits of
the "Charlie Mopic Company"?  I had saw this film a long time ago, but I
saw it again on Public TV last night. (57 channels... right?)

  I think that it's Donovan, but I'm not sure. There was a scene in the film
when they picked up Donovan singing "Catch the Wind".  But the last
song I just couldn't tell.  BTW: On the subject of Donovan.... does anyone
know if his Troubedor(sp?) 2 disc pack is any good?  I have some of
the songs from his Greatest Hits album, but most of the other titles
are unfamiliar.

Jade
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
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Date: 16 Nov 92 16:37:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands

"Vampire Lestat" <wk00636@WORLDLINK.COM> writes:

>Oh and by the way I am interested in finding out some more about the
>Netherlands as I have been thinking about going there sometime in the future,
>since you said that you're at the University of Utrecht in the Netherland I
>thought I might ask you...

Uuuh, oh, that's on a completely different track... :) Well, just ask whatever
you want. Probably email would be better, since I don't think this subject is
of general interest. Well, in fact it *is*, but the others don't know yet :).

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:30:07 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: A Capella and teleology

Rev. Bob sez-

>
>Damn, damn, damn!  I always wanted to do that.  That and _Carmina
>Burana_ and the Mahler 2nd.  That's the wonderful thing about living
>in a big town.  You lucky stiff.
>
Yeah, I know....I missed the Carmina Burana by one year - they did it the
year before I got to college. I don't think they'll try the Mahler any time
soon. It wasn't a big town...this was college...

>Be not depressed -- your tapes arrived!  Got to listen to part of side
>one of tape one on the way to work.  Damn again!  I still haven't sent
>in your check (some gratitude!) and I don't have your address at work.
>Tonight without fail.
>I'll definitely make you a tape.  There's some things I think you'd like
>now that I've heard the tape.  I will *not* wait to send the check until
>I send the tape.
>Anyhow, as we pulled into the parking lot, "There's No Sin in Sincere"
>came on.  What a hoot!  So far the tape is just wonderful.  I can't
>wait for work to be over (among other reasons) so I can hear more.

Glad you like it! Remember, full review....

>Just wondering -- I've got a Kirby Shaw arrangement of "Their Hearts
>Were Full of Spring" lying around somewhere.  Shall I send it?  Are
>you (like me) a Freshmen fan?  A Kirby Shaw fan?

I don't know much about either...can you give me more info? I'd hate for
you to send it for nothing. Tape or sheet music arrangement?

Enjoy!
doo be doo wop bop...

Marsha
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:22:44 CST
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rev's picks

RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM (Bob T) asks:

>Was that the new Mudhoney? Is it any good? What's it like compared to the song
>on the _Singles_ soundtrack (whose title escapes me at the moment)?

Nope, I was buying "classics" this weekend, based on a list that was
just published on GRUNGE-L of people's favorites.  The Mudhoney was
_Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge_; the Husker Du was _Zen Arcade_ and the
Big Black was _Songs About [Fornicating]_ .

>Also, what would you recommend as a good Husker Du CD to pick up? I've heard
>nothing but raves about them (and Bob Mould's solo work), but I've only heard
>one or two songs by them oh so long ago...

Beats me.  I haven't fired up any of them yet.  First, my wife grabbed
the stereo to listen to some CDs she bought, and I spent the rest of
the weekend listening to some Brahms piano quartets before they were
due back at the library and recording a new tape from the CD I just
bought of _Operation Mindcrime_ (we had the tape originally and wore
it out).  Report follows.
+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:58:17 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: do bee do bee do help...

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:09:38 MST Thumper said:
>For reasons beyond my explanation, I desperately need the words to that
>wunnerful Sinatra tune, "Strangers In The Night".
>
>Thanks!
>Carol

Against my best judgment cause I don't like this song (or Sinatra):

Strangers in the night, exchanging glances  [that's all?]
Wondring in the night what were the chances  [depends on your animal magnetism]
We'd be sharing love before the night was through [just practice safe sex
                                                   if you're going to exchange
                                                   more than glances & love]
Something in your eyes was so inviting [sure it was the eyes?]
Something in your smile was so exciting, [that's more like it!]
Something in my heart told me I must have you [go for it]
Strangers in the night, two lonely people we were. [critical mass achieved]
Strangers in the night, up to the moment when we said our first hello [yeah,
                                                    get the small talk out of
                                                    way early]
Little did we know love was just a glance away, [sometimes not even that far]
A warm embracing dance away [even got some dancing in as foreplay, alright!]
And ever since that night, we've been together  [a bit unusual but we'll let
                                                 it slide for the sake of
                                                 the romantic mood]
Lovers at first sight, in love forever [this really strains credulity]
It turned out so right for strangers in the night. (Repeat) [Was it as good
                                                             for you as it
                                                             was for me?]

Renato "Reference Book" Barahona
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:45:25 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cataloguing the record collection
              18 Nov 1992 10:23:06 EST from <goldberg@MAILER.NYMC.EDU>

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:23:06 EST RANDY_GOLDBERG said:
> Renato -
>     I use a dedicated software package designed for a music library.  I
> don't have the name & address at my fingertips, but they are located in
> one of the towns on Long Island, near New York.  (As I recall, you're

Randy:  Would be much appreciated.  Thanks.

> someplace foreign, aren't you?).

Yes, it's called Chicago.  Marsha and I (and Malbuff and Beer) are exiled.
Hey, we're not knocking it -- at least not this old-timer.  It's got
some great eateries, a fair number of music joints, plenty of museums
for the Kultur-minded, excellent thrift shops, and an astonishing number
of medical facilities for the hypochondrically inclined.  Which reminds
me that I must go get my teeth cleaned.

>     My collection is nowhere near as large as yours (I have some 275
> tapes), but it does a nice job, right down to printing catalog cards, if
> you can handle form-feed index cards.

The wife keeps telling me that less is beautiful, but I disagree.

Renato
>
> Cheers,
>  Randy
>
> P.S.  I'm Marsha's a cappella partner-in-crime, but since we have
> basically the same collection, I won't offer you any of my stuff - she has
> everything I do.
>
> **************************************************************************
> * Randy Goldberg         *  The Road goes ever On and On...              *
> *                        *                        - J.R.R. Tolkien       *
> * GOLDBERG@NYMC.EDU      *  All I ask is a tall ship, and a star to      *
> *                        *      steer her by...   - James T. Kirk        *
> * Compuserve: 76550,1541 *                                               *
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: House and spirituality ?
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:17:59 GMT

Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET> writes:

>Roomie = Roommate.  Person who shares sleeping quarters with one.  Libby,
>I'm sure, would share more than the quarters :-) but I'll let her speak for
>herself--or at least, let Madame Palindrome speak for her.

Thanks for the explanation.  BTW, I get the weird feeling that having women
on the list *does* make a difference... :-)  Ever read comp.lang.c or
comp.std.c or...?  Get the point?  Ha!  Comments?

Hendrik Jan

OMC-or-O-whatsoever: re-re-rediscovered Britten's _War Requiem_ today (happens
at least once every year :). My o my, how can someone write stuff like that?
It should be forbidden - some things are too beautiful...

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Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:03:11 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: A Capella sheet music

Ben -

>As far as suggestions go, I may be able to get an address for you but if you
 are
>    arranging things by ear, try to tape record the arranging sessions with the
>group.
>        Right now, (well not precisely right now but in this general stage in
>life) I am in an Acappella group that arranges by ear.  There are definite
>limitations that can be had with a group like this but if you have limited
>musicianship to contend with, I'm afraid this my have to do.
>
What college? I want tapes or CDs! Tell me about your grou-p, and others on
your campus (which is...?). I'm a big fan - please reply!

Marsha
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:22:17 EST
From:         Jake <ST102315@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      New Top Ten List

Oh, what the hell...I'm in a pointless kind of mood today...

Top ten reasons Robert Johnson hasn't been mentioned in the last 174
      posts...

10.  Guitar playing shows a complete lack of knowledge of Heavy Metal
     conventions
9.   "Squeeze My Lemon" line clearly just a cheap ploy to get
     parental advisory sticker on album
8.   Initials make people subconsciously believe he founded R.J.
     Reynolds
7.   "The Search For Robert Johnson" book made many confuse him with
     Waldo of "Where's Waldo" fame
6.   Most people are just too busy guessing Renato's age to talk about
     blues legends
5.   If Clapton likes him so much, he must be a sell-out
4.   Lack of geographical accuracy in "Sweet Home Chicago" contributes
     to the decline of the US's educational system
3.   Didn't incorporate enough electronic music in his work
2.   His hard-to-remember name

And the number one reason Robert Johnson hasn't been mentioned in the
   last 174 allmusic posts...

1.   Doesn't appear in Madonna's new book

See you around,
jwgh
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:42:22 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: For Those About To Rock

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:30:43 EST Ilia said:
>
>Geez, so I didn't need to use that fire extinguisher?! :) Anyway, I

No, but you might some day.  A sage once said that many of us are
arsonists at 20 and fire-fighters at 50.

OMC: We could always begin a new thread about our favorite songs dealing
with flames, fire, burning -- do an Arthur Brown kinda thing.  (BTW, was the
_Crazy World's_ album cover [front and back] one of the greatest you've
ever seen, or what?!)

>don't really see any connection between my reaction to a concert in
>Moscow and my remark above. If you still think otherwise, please, let
>me know. BTW, thanks for keeping my old letter. :)

Despite my advancing age, my memory still serves me well, sometimes too well.

Renato
>              Ilia.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:26:26 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Roy Acuff

Heard on the radio this morning that Roy Acuff, uh, 'scuse me, that should
be "Country Music legend" Roy Acuff died last night:  he was 89.

No word on what he died of, but at 89, I guess one doesn't really need a
specific reason.

For those of you who are wondering "Who the f*ck is Roy Acuff, and why
does Hammer give a s*it about him,"  go out and buy the Nitty Gritty
Dirt Band's _Will the Circle Be Unbroken_ (the first one), and listen
to Acuff's performance on "The Wreck on the Highway" or "Pins and Needles."
A lot of the country neo-traditionalists (Barf Brooks, Travis Tritt, and
that whole crowd) owe a _lot_ to Roy Acuff.  He will be missed.  RIP.

-Scott "I Saw the Wreck on the Highway, but I Didn't Hear Nobody Pray" Hammer
 College of William and Mary