HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: trident and SP probs
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:17:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In article <1992Dec11.152329.18408@husc3.harvard.edu> mendels1@husc4.harvard.edu (Andrew Mendelsohn) writes:
>From: mendels1@husc4.harvard.edu (Andrew Mendelsohn)
>Subject: trident and SP probs
>Date: 11 Dec 92 20:23:28 GMT
>I find the new unofficial trident drivers quite nice, but i have one 
>problem: the desktop undergoes a shift in color when I open a seamless
>window application or when using pmfract.  Any suggestions?

Problem??? People are still begging for that _feature_ on their still mostly 
unsupported cards...

Seamless WinOS2 programs get to reprogram the pallette when they're in the 
foreground. That lets you do cool stuff like view .GIFs with their correct 
colors when using a WinOS2 program like WinGIF.

>   I have had a few problems since the service pack.  Some communications
>programs occasionally hang the machine (which can only be fixed by turning
>off the modem--this immediately restores full control to the mouse, 
>keyboard, and screen).  Is this due to some quirk in my using 16550 uarts.
>NOte that this only happens with OS/2 comm programs and that I have not 
>added any special lines since installing the 16550 UARTs.
>   The second problem is with the WPS.  It occasionally refuses to keep 
>all the info about a program, the worst being loss of the programs name,  
>it may be correlated with nearly filled FAT disks, because I was able to 
>prevent the problem with at least one program by moving its executables to 
>an HPFS volume.

You're not screwing with the EAs after you install the programs are you? 
You also shouldn't move/copy/look at funny/etc. any OS/2 related program 
using native DOS since the EAs don't get updated.

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From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: Re: Object Vision for OS/2 for sale
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:58:55 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <724635481.0@iphase.infoserv.com> Ed.June@iphase.infoserv.com (Ed June) writes:

>On <Dec 16 14:44>, Larry Salomon Jr. of 1:112/28 wrote to All:

> LSJ> From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
> LSJ> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc 
> LSJ> Subject: Re: Object Vision for OS/2 for sale
> LSJ> Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
> LSJ> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:44:28 GMT
> LSJ>
> LSJ>  <stuff deleted>
> LSJ> This is slimy.  Anyone who went to any of the OS/2 developer's 
> LSJ> conferences got a free copy, and you're trying to make an extra 
> LSJ> buck off it of.  Tsk, tsk. If you're going to be that was, I 
> LSJ> have three copies with the shrink wrap still on that I'll sell 
> LSJ> total for $80.00.  :)

> LSJ> Cheers,
> LSJ> Q

> LSJ> P.S.  ObjectVision for OS/2 is a good concept but is still *very* 
> LSJ> buggy.  I expected better from Borland.  :(

>How much for one?

Ed, and everyone else:  I said that *only* to make a point.  PLEASE stop
sending me mail asking how much is one, or will I take $30 dollars for one.

Cheers,
Q
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Subject: comp.os.os2.misc
From: khmak@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:55:14 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <!n#@byu.edu>, ecktons@sirius.byu.edu (Sean Eckton) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.164921.24146@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>  
> greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec11.192003.10358@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djs6015@ultb.rit.edu  
> (Don Smith) writes:
>> >
>> >Hi There...
>> >
>> >Does anyone have any info that can help me make my Linux Partition
>> >bootable from the Boot Manager? When I try to boot it from the Boot
>> >Manager it says that its not a formatted drive... help!
>> Linux comes with it's own boot manager, but i don't have any
>> experience with it, yet.
> 
> Get the utility LILO and it will create the boot information on your Linux  
> partition.  That should make the boot manager recognize the partition as  
> bootable.  You might also have to set certain flags in FDISK (OS/2 FDISK) to  
> make it work, but I can't remember because it has been too long since I've  
> done it and I not longer have LINUX on my machine because my OS/2 partition  
> was full and I needed 60 more meg.  The documentation for LILO isn't very  
> clear, but there is a file you have to edit to specify the partition to  
> install the boot sector on.  BE CAREFUL!
> 
> --
> Sean Eckton=-
> Internet:  ecktons@sirius.byu.edu      Brigham Young University, Provo, UT.> Packet Radio:  kd6bik @ wb7esh.#orem.ut.usa.na
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I've been seeing people talking about Linux. Can anyone tell me where I can 
get a copy of it ?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: install woe w/ Paradise EGA 480 card
Keywords: install EGA paradise
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:27:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.233046.23552@news.eng.convex.com> ellis@convex.com (Robert Ellis) writes:
>i'm having trouble installing os2 on my pc.
>Austin 386/20
>Paradise EGA 480
>40M hard drive
>4M RAM

The 4 MB RAM is going to be tight.  Can you upgrade to 6 before
proceeding?

>i am able to install from the first 5 installation disks, but when the installation
>program attempts run os2 (and i presume display the Graphical environment on the
>monitor), i get a blank screen. I don't ever see a screen that asks me to insert
>disk 6.
>I have phoned IBM's help line but their suggestion is not satisfactory (they say that
>lack of hard space, 30M, is causing the screen to be blank).

I think that's a fair criticism, but it may not be the direct cause of
your problem.  Be very careful -- you're going to be very tight on
hard disk space, too.  You will be able to install OS/2 2.0 if you (a)
start with a completely empty hard drive (run a backup first); (b)
install something less than a full install (perhaps the "preselected
features" install is better).  I would also definitely stick with FAT.
Don't select HPFS.

>Is anyone running os2 with a Paradise EGA 480 video card? And if so, did you have
>to modify the installation in any way?

You must switch any "autoswitching" or "autosense" (auto-anything :-))
on the card off.  Usually that's done with a DIP switch or jumper.

>PS:
>if i can't get the EGA card to work, are there any instructions for completing the
>remainder of the installation by hand?  I could then use cmd.exe as my shell
>environment and forget the graphical environment. I'd really like to be able to
>install the help files at a minimum.

That's going to be OK, then, in 4 MB.  I assume you've read the FAQ
List about that.  Workplace Shell in 4 MB is still a bit tight (but
getting better -- the Service Pak has improved things somewhat).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: Mix of 3-chip and 9-chip simms with OS/2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:42:27 GMT

There are still some problems with OS/2 as far as traps go. I get a lot of trap 0002's, and my memory is fine. I also got a trap 000e a couple times, and hear
that this is also a bug in OS/2. 

I am hoping they fix these problems in a future update, as well as make it more
stable (I crash it a lot). I never had any problems with win 3.0, and don't
see why OS/2 has all these problems. Maybe when they get the bugs out, it will
be a stable environment that I was hoping for.
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: What is going wrong with video driver support?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:53:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu



It is obvious that something is going really wrong inside IBM.

Why can't that get more than 1 video board manufacturer to write 
video drivers?

It's easier to get autocad drivers than os/2 2.0 drivers.

And it's been almost 9 months!!!
-- 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jdickins@mcs213i.cs.umr.edu (James Dickinson)
Subject: Re: Mix of 3-chip and 9-chip simms with OS/2
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:38:10 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Dec16.183445.26849@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <L7VqVB5w165w@qed.cts.com> pyrite@qed.cts.com (Sean Camanyag) writes:
>> With the Service Pack installed, I get a lot of trap errors, around 8-10,
>> sometimes more, per day.  People at IBM NSC BBS have put the blame on my mix
>> of 4 3-chip 1mb simms, and 4 9-chip 1mb simms.  This is UNACCEPTABLE,
>> considering that with GA + separately downloaded fixes, I have not had ANY
>> trap errors.  My question is, will this be fixed by the next release coming
>> soon?  Or am I the only one having this problem?  I would like to start using
>> the Trident 32bit drivers but the Service Pack's numerous trap errors
>> discourage me from leaving GA again.  It seems in fixing some problems, the
>> Service Pack has put more serious problems in their place.
>
>A friend of mine had the same problem. He went back to the shop he got the
>9-chip simms from and simply swapped them for some 3-chip simms (I knew the
>vendor needed the 9-chippers for the 486-50's because the 3-chippers cause
>lock-ups in the fast PC's).
> 
>His TRAP problems disappeared completely as soon as he made his RAM uniform.
>It is a basic rule that mixing RAM is something you try and get away
>with.....not recommended practice.
> 
>Mixing RAM has always been a no-no. The consequences may be unacceptable to
>you.....but the solution is pretty clear. BTW.....now is the time to re-sell
>your 4 meg of odd RAM (whichever 4 you choose) because the US duty fight with
>the Koreans has pushed the price of RAM up a bit.....you should be able to
>recover most of the cost of the 4 new Megs.
>
I have been using 70 nsec 1MB simms and 60 nsec 4MB simms ( 20 MB total )
for 4 months now without any problems whatsoever.     

>Steve
>-- 
>Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
>+64 4 478 4714                          | looks like we may get a more  
>**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".

Jim
From: rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: truly undeleteable file has been deleted!!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 05:04:20 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

Well, The file has been deleted, thanks to the help of that hall of famer
T.Sipples and others.  The solution was to boot from a floppy and delete
it from there.  What others suggested is that the lpt1 handle was not
loaded from a floppy boot and so the file lpt1 was created.  Under a full
boot, the machine first checks to see if lpt1 is a device handle.  When it
realizes that it is, it states that it is not deleteable.

Thanks again to all who helped with this rogue file!!!

--Ronald Van Iwaarden

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
Subject: Re: where should SET name=thing go?
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:27:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.151847.17868@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>> The 'Autoexec.Bat' is there for DOS sessions only.
>
>The tricky part of this, as I indicated in another post, is that
>AUTOEXEC.BAT gets runs for *all* simulated DOS sessions (but not for
>"specific DOS")

What do you mean here "specific DOS"?

>
>There needs to be
>a way to do this stuff only when you are spawning an interactive DOS
>session; otherwise you want to have a streamlined AUTOEXEC that
>basically contains only SET statements.  It turns out that OS/2 goes out
>of its way to make this difficult.  It is nothing short of diabolical.
>

If CONFIG.SYS is for OS/2, and AUTOEXEC.BAT is for DOS, where is the
normal DOS CONFIG.SYS stuff? 

Is this all contained in the Settings, Session, DOS Settings for each 
application? What if I want to change some config setting for all my
DOS appls? Do I have to edit every Settings entry?

This would be a very messy way do go. Do IBM people listen to the
comp.os.os2.* newsgroups? Will they pick up on the need for a better
approach here as an improvement suggestion? Is there an email address
for suggestion to IBM? Is there any end to the questions?

Thanks for the detailed reply and solution in the previous post. 

John
calvert@mast.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: stephen@linus.cc.ncsu.edu (Stephen Jackson)
Subject: Paradise 1Meg 1024x768
Reply-To: stephen@ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:33:55 GMT


I know this has probably been asked a 1000 times, but is anyone using a Paradise
1024x768 board with OS/2 that is actually running in SVGA mode?  Have you had any
problems doing so? Reason is, I found one for $65 (most that I have seen mail 
order are about $89-129).  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: BocaModem and COM3/COM4?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:23:38 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Last night, I took the plunge and purchased a Bocaboard 9600B fax/modem
board (internal).  It has the capability to run as COM1-4, and on IRQ's
3, 4, 5, and 7.  However, I have a Logitech serial mouse connected to my I/O
board (containing COM1 and COM2) as COM1.  Thus, I have to run the modem as
either COM3 or COM4.

I realize that I could set the jumpers on the board so that it replaces
COM1 and use the mouse as COM2, but I would like to avoid that if at all
possible.  Can anyone tell me the magic hokus-pokus that I need to do to
achieve this configuration?

Thanks,
Q

P.S.  While email is just as good, there might be someone else with this
problem currently who would also benefit from this experience.
-- 
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From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: New 32 Trident & NEC 4FG Interlaced???
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 03:12:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.130008.14664@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> kbwilson@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
>	I tried the 800x600x256 the monitor picked up the change but it still
>looked interlaced.  last I tried the 640x480x256 and this seemed non-interlaced
>
>Does anyone have any idea how to make this flicker go away?
>I hope this is not the monitor I spent big bucks not to have problems like
>this.
>Could there be a problem with my card?

I can't rule that out, but I have found (and heard reported on the net)
that electrical noise can cause such flicker also -- try turning off
fluorescent lights and re-arranging your monitor cable away from other 
wiring. If your monitor wiring is not shielded, maybe that should be changed.
Try re-routing your ribbin cables inside your box away from the graphics
card.

Hope some of this helps :-)


orville

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From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett Person)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: problems with wps copy
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:58:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bz8uCt.Ix5
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Dec8.054116.17951@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>Using the Workplace Shell drive objects for copying files wasn't
>completely error free in OS/2 2.0 GA (XR02000).  Certain large copy
>operations had problems.
>
>I haven't seen these problems in the Service Pak (XR06055), however.


The problems are still there in the beta.  I've given up on copying/moving
with WPS.  It just doesn't work all that well. 

I have major problems when trying to move a half-meg worth of data between
the C drive and the A drive. Usually, the copy operation just hangs.  

Even when it does work it's ten to twenty ( yes, I've timed it.) times
slower than from the command line. 
-- 
Brett Person
Guest Account	
North Dakota State University
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Boot Manager and NT incompatibility; Read on! 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:51:39 GMT

g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis) writes:

> too busy over the holiday season to do this. Of course, the usefulness of
> such a utility is left up to the user, i.e. I can't see why someone
> would want to have both OS/2 and NT installed on the same machine. Hard
> disk real estate and a lot of money is my only explanation of why.

The purpose is to develop applications that run under both (cross platform).
The goal of the "hostile system" check is to enlist developers as footsolders
in the os war undergoing, but that is another story.
For interesting precedent for this nonsense, see the book "psychology of
programming" which tells of one programmer reaching out of his assigned 
module to disable a rival's. Truly silly.

                                                          [sam]
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samiam@netcom.com     | important than your 
Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to deinstall appletts?
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <Bz624y.EMz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:
>How do you deinstall all the games that come with OS/2, except for solitaire?
>Better yet, does anyone know how to install the solitaire which comes with
>Windows? Then I would just delete all the games.

Pretty easy, really.  You can just delete the appropriate files in
\OS2\APPS.

However, if you want something a little friendlier, try the new Visual
REXX Selective Uninstall applet.  It is available via anonymous ftp
from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, directory /pub/uploads/sharebbs or
/pub/uploads/sharebbs2, I believe (although it will be moved).  Check
the "description" files in those directories for an annotated list.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: GA+SP -n- winos2 3.1 beta??
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:29:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.163917.6838@wam.umd.edu> ifox@wam.umd.edu (Ira "Isa" Fox) writes:
>   I know I'm going to get flamed for asking such a simple question, but
>here it goes anyway.  If I have os2 GA + SP. Can I get the beta winos2 3.1
>for my pc??  If so where (1-800-3-IBM-OS2)?   

Yes, you can get the third public Win-OS/2 3.1 beta by calling this
number.  But, it will be supplied to you on CD-ROM (as part of the
OS/2 Professional Developer's Kit) for $15.

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From: jardined@qucis.queensu.ca (Donald Jardine)
Subject: Re: Latest from Colorado Memory Systems
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:21:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.144022.44@idx.com> gsk@idx.com writes:
>-- Hi Folks... I just got off the phone with Colorado Memory Systems
>asking about the OS/2 support... Here is the scoop from one of their
>marketing/sales people...
>
>  It is expected out probably next week, and is in beta right now.
>
>  It is a third party software package (Sytron) version 1.36. She suggested
>  that you purchase from them (oh really?) since the version number alone might
>  not be enough to get the right version! Can't speak for the accuracy of
>  that statement, but she was NOT being pushy about me ordering it now..
>
>  It will be for sale from CMS for the tidy sum of $99 +6.50 s/h
>  (best guess right now)
>
>  It will support their drives. No special tape adaptor will be needed.
>
>  That is about all I got.. Hint when calling their support number.. hit
>the option that says you DON'T own one of their drives.. it was picked up
>before I lifted my finger!.. The other option (support) was a 15-20 minute
>wait!  
>
>This is what I was told.. Just thought some folks might want to know..
>
>				-- George --
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>- George Kaczowka   IDX Corp  Marlboro, MA  - gsk@idx.com  -
>------------------------------------------------------------

I suspect this is only a floppy controller version, but I'm not sure.
I heard from CMS (see another posting from me to this newsgroup today)
that the FC-10 etc. controllers are not supported yet.  I would be
happy to hear differently.


Donald Jardine, Software Technology Laboratory, Comp. Sci. Dept.,
Queen's Univ. Kingston Ont. Ph (613) 545 6070 Fax (613) 545 6513
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