From: jms@vision.sarnoff.com (Jerry Shapiro x2420)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Intermarriage
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:35:12 GMT
Reply-To: jms@vision.sarnoff.com
Organization: David Sarnoff Research Center

In article 13320@ics.uci.edu, mkrawitz@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Marc Krawitz) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.015854.3744@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> alu@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (Alan Lustiger) writes:
>>In article <2AD1E105.6518@ics.uci.edu> mkrawitz@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Marc Krawitz) writes:
>>>As a young, Jewish college student, I am tired of hearing about attempts
>>>by other Jews to interfere with healthy, interracial and intercultural
>>>relationships.  I believe that the needs and desires of the individual
>>>come before those of his/her culture, and furthermore, I believe that
>>>any attempts to undermine these rights are unethical.
>>...
>>>
>>>For those of you involved in interracial relationships, I salute
>>>your courage to stand up to the oppressive elements within the
>>>global Jewish community.
>>>
>>>Marc Krawitz
>>
>>And I salute you, Marc Krawitz, for having the guts to publicly say
>>in a Jewish newsgroup that the continued existence of the Jewish
>>people is of no concern to you, and that your needs outweigh those
>>of the Jewish community as a whole. It is also refreshing to hear
>>a Jewish college student explicitly say that the destruction of his
>>people is "healthy," as interrmarriage is a "fundamental tool"
>>for reducing racism, cleverly implying that those of us who actually
>>value the Jewish religion are racists.  (BTW, when did race enter
>>the picture? Or do you view Judaism as a race? I think I've heard
>>that done once before...)
>>
>>--
>>               		Alan Lustiger
>>    |_ | |             	AT&T Bell Laboratories ERC, Princeton, NJ
>>     /   |( 		attmail!alustiger or att!pruxk!alu or lustiger@att.com
>
>This is a blatant misrepresentation of my earlier post.  I do NOT believe
>that the destruction of Judaism is healthy, nor am I implying that those
>who do not intermarry are racists.  What I am implying (see my original
>article) is that Jews deserve a choice in this matter, without having
>to endure harassment from friends, family, or colleagues.  The key word
>here is *choice*.  I am not saying that it is wrong, or racist to marry
>other Jews, I am only saying that Jews (particularly non-religious Jews
>like myself) have a right to marry anyone they wish.  Is that not a
>fundamental right in any democracy?  If the idea of intermarriage
>represents some kind of irrelevant, extremist philosophy, than why
>is the intermarriage rate among Jews so high?
>
>I would like to conclude this post by apologizing to anybody who was
>offended by my earlier post.  I guess I just wanted the readers of
>s.c.j. to hear another point of view, particularly from a young person
>like myself, who is strongly effected by this volatile issue.
>
>Marc Krawitz


Marc, It's obvious you didn't intend to offend anybody. Don't get
scared off by these people. It's amazing to me that someone could be so
rude, self-righteous and judgemental less than 24 hours after Yom
Kippur. It makes me wonder if anybody *reads*  the prayers
they daven. Wasn't sarcasm covered in the Al Cheyt.

Shanah Tovah
Jerry
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