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From: jeff@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Williamson)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: "I am Legend" book 4
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:46:58 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


The _I Am Legend_ adaptation published by Eclipse only ever reached Book 3;
due to some production problems, they delayed and delayed Book 4 forever,
then finally decided to pull it and resolicit it when it finally was done.

Good question as to when that will be.

--
Jeff Williamson               ** E-mail: blackmagik@nwu.edu 
ACNS/Northwestern University  **  
(seeking a permanent home)    ** ACME: 50 Years of Creative Mayhem 
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From: rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale)
Subject: Re:  STAND / Flame bait
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: alt.horror
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:20:34 GMT

Poor Jeff Frazier, we really should feel sorry for someone who feels as if
everything he was made to read in school was worthless.  Admittedly, most of
us didn't appreciate everything we read in school, but then again, most of us
realize the value in the stuff.  [I personally despised Hemingway's "Old Man
and the Sea", but I got the point of the exercise and some people actually
liked the thing.]

Jeff, give Lovecraft a try.  You probably won't like him if you don't like
Poe, but, who knows, you could gain something from the experience.  Though
[I'm sorry that I can't resist saying this...] I DOUBT IT!!!


It may have been a flame bait trap, but I couldn't resist...

Yo, JEFF ... If Stephen King is your hero try some Dean Koontz, especially
WATCHERS.  I actually happen to like most of both authors, but I appreciate
them for what they are and am not limited to their ilk.

Robin of Riverdale

  --  an equal opportunity reader

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Just came back from watching Buff'
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:55:14 EDT

In article <4537@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:

>Hey Ken, there are no vampires that I've seen in cinema that didn't flinch
>with the sun, but didn't you read Matheson's "I Am Legend"?
>
>			Laurel


	Thank you, Laurel dear, for giving me the opening to pump
	this book again. _I Am Legend_ is one of the very best
	vampire books ever written, and certainly one of the most
	fantastic horror novels of all time. If you haven't read
	it, or only know it from the Charleton Heston film travesty
	"The Omega Man", by all means read it.

	The gothic crowd probably won't enjoy it as much, but it
	is a damn good book, with teeth.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University

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From: af322@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Adams)
Subject: Re: Graham Masterton (was James Herbert)
Reply-To: af322@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Adams)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 05:44:45 GMT


In a previous article, laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) says:

>
>I liked "Slugs" and "Breeding Ground" the best so far, but I am into
>nauseating horror as well as the other kinds, so if you are opposed to it, I
>wouldn't read the above two! I have the same problem only with stacks of
>unread books as opposed to just one or two!
>

Did you ever see Slugs the movie?  I'd never read slugs but did read
Breeding ground.  
 

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From: AZ.EPC@forsythe.stanford.edu 
Subject: Re: Steven King idiosyncracies (was Re: The Stand)
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:04:14 GMT

>The absolute WORST, IMHO, was "The Mist".  My sister got an audio tape
>where they dramatized this story.  If you've ever heard people wandering
>around a supermarket translated into radio drama, you know you have
>witnessed the EPITOME of Steven King's style.   To wit:
>
>"Daddy, let's get the Hostess Cupcakes and the Crunch Tators."
>
>"Wouldn't you really prefer the Frito Lay Sour Cream and Onion chips?"
>
>"Yeah, okay, and get some Diet Coke, and Kingsford Charcoal.  But don't
>get the Kingsford lighter fluid, Royal Glow is better."
>
>(In no way verbatim, but you get the picture -- actors rattling off inane
>conversations about brand name products in a witless effort to try and
>create some sense of "realism" or "every day life".  Sorry, but my life
>isn't a commercial break in a sitcom.)
>

I can't believe you said that.  I AGREE.
From: ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: This is NOT a flam!
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 23:41:26 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

          This is most defintely NOT a flame, but could some people please
watch their quotes.. I've gone through at least 10 messages that quote entire
pages of the Frankenstein info over and OVER again... I love reading the
responses, and have learned quite a bit, but the quoting can get VERY
monotonous, especially at a lower baud modem...  (2400)


thanks!
ntraven.wuntvor.norman.ok.us

--
ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK -- +1 405 325 9607
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: A few more authors *FLAMES???????*
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:14:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug17.190149.11017@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) writes:
>
>In Owen Veenstra writes:
>
>>>>>      Unfortunately, it seems that a few people out there are obsessed with
>>>>>  a *very* select number of authors (Koontz/King...), so I figure that I'll 
>>>>>  liven things up with a few names I consider worth reading.
>
>Laurel responds:
>>>>I've said it before, but I'll say it again: you are not under obligation to
>>>>answer (or read for that matter) any messages on things you don't like to
>>>>discuss...
>Later, in response to being told she overreacted, Laurel adds:
>
>>Maybe he did not say that King and Koontz should not be discussed, but if
>>someone says there are a select few people who are "obsessed" with the authors
>>(which he did), I resent that because there is no way I am not being referred
>>to here as obsessed. 
>Well, I personally think you are over-reacting in a big way. I have left
>Owen Veenstra's original posting in this response, because I want to challenge
>you to point out where he says that Laurel A Povazan is obsessed with King
>and Koontz.
>Anyone who reads this group for more than one day, say, has seen you post
>about lots of other authors, including some rather obscure ones. On the
>Marcy

Okay, okay, I over-reacted. This is the third time I have admitted it. If you
haven't read today's (Aug.18) messages, you don't know that I tried to explain
the outburst again. I figured that I was being referred to because a great
majority of what I post is about King. That's it. I was also pissed because I
had previously flipped out on someone who was saying we should all drop King
and talk about other stuff, but didn't bring up a subject! That was the
_first_ impression I got from Oliver's post and now I know I am wrong, okay?
Besides, he responded to the "flames?" and said he saw my point in a way,
beyond my defensiveness. My sincere apologies to everyone on here: I
over-reacted. Now can we talk about horror again? 
					Laurel
 

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
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From: ketter@mdd.comm.mot.com (Cindy Ketterling)
Subject: Re: Barker and sex
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:52:57 GMT

In article <16t9n4INN1u3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu () writes:
>
>> either over- OR under-doing it.  He just writes about it in the  
>> same matter-of-fact style that he writes about anything else, so it  
>> never seems out of place.
>
>On the contrary, it DOES seem rather out of place to me.  Barker to me
>seems to have a fixation with bodily functions of any kind.  He seems to
>want to describe the human body in some way that will try and instill a
>feeling in the reader that the body is a thing that is creepy or
>disgusting in and of itself.  For instance, his constant portrayal of
>sex and violence as being parallels, such as in the Hellraiser concept
>or in that story with the chick who can manipulate human flesh.  Or,
>just in the way he describes some things... I remember reading something

Ummm ... you're saying that he's trying to make you feel creepy about your
own body and he's trying to draw a connection between sex and violence?
OF COURSE he is!  HE'S A _HORROR_ WRITER!  Geez!  Get a grip on the genre.

>Maybe trying to make the body seems disgusting is exactly the effect he's
>looking for, but it doesn't really fly for me.  My own flesh is as
>pathetic and weak as the next guy, but it's still just a machine my brain
>sits in, to me.  Anything it does is just a fact of life.  I just get the

This sound familiar to anyone?  Howie Katz?  _The Great and Secret Show_?
Hmmmmmmm ...  ;^) 

Signing off from Seattle (an Indian word for It Rains Too Much).
	- the Cypherkat

 -------------* Cypherkat * (ketter@mdd.comm.mot.com) *---------------
 *     If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?     *   
 *                 INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!!!                   *   
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: A few more authors *FLAMES???????*
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:40:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <6841@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:
>      Unfortunately, it seems that a few people out there are obsessed with
>  a *very* select number of authors (Koontz/King...), so I figure that I'll 
>  liven things up with a few names I consider worth reading.
>     Well, enough works...  But again I'd appreciate to see some scratchings
>  from others out there on worthwile authors, especially any newcomers to the
>  genre.  You have my thanks in advance.


I've said it before, but I'll say it again: you are not under obligation to
answer (or read for that matter) any messages on things you don't like to
discuss. Someone else, about a month ago, complained about the discussions of
Stephen King on here, but they didn't bring up any new subjects: at least you
did. I will also point out that way after I was sick of the discussions of
"Alien III" on here I still never bitched about people wanting to discuss it. 
Freedom of speech?
				Laurel

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies
From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY)
Subject: Re: Val Lewton horror movies
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:05:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.233206.12294@agora.uucp> hopkins@agora.uucp (Scott Hopkins) writes:

>In article <1992Aug10.015345.6175@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui) writes:


>Isle of the Dead wasn't a Christopher Lee movie, but starred Boris Karloff
>instead.  And yes it was a very good show.  His best was probably The Body
>Snatcher, but then again it's only my opinion.

The Body Snatcher -- is that based on the Robert Louis Stevenson short story?

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: looking for stories
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:50:11 EDT

In article <cass8806.162@elan.glassboro.edu> cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY) writes:
>
>	for rather complex reasons which i shall not go into here -- i find 
>myself in search of tales of the "supernatural" written by women anytime 
>during the 19th century and into the early 20th century -- the only criteria 
>is that they (the woman) were writing in the 19the century.
>	the more obscure the better. any ideas?
>	thanks.

	
	"The Yellow Wallpaper" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman
	_Frankenstein_ by Mary Shelley

	hmmm...that's just top-of-my-head. There must be more,
	although women writers (especially in horror/supernatural)
	started coming mostly into vogue during the 20th century
	(Shirley Jackson, Joyce Carol Oates).

	I was recently reading a book of stories reproduced from
	the old 30s/40s incarnation of Weird Tales, and I remember
	several female writers included, some of whom wrote under
	male pseudonymns...but that's out of your time of interest.

	I _know_ there are more. Check some anthologies of old
	ghost stories...they're bound to be women in there.

	Damn, I ramble too much.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University


Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: gorn@hell.bound
Subject: re:Witch Board.....Is it true.....????
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:46:57 GMT

In article <92226.111346U11960@uicvm.uic.edu> Jai K. Singh  
<U11960@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> Does anybody know about witch board.  I've heard using this board
> you can call the spirits and this board is available in your
> local toy stores.  I've heard stories (supposedly true stories)
> of spirits being called using this board and they do come.
> If anybody knows more about it, please reply soon 'cause I'm
> planning to try it out.
> 
> ------
> Jai

Yes they are sold as toys in many stores. Take it from someone who knows  
from experience: be VERY careful.
---
Gorn
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Necronomicon et al.
Date: 13 Aug 1992 08:53:11 GMT
Organization: UCB Space Sciences Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Necronomicon, Lovecraft

So about this mysterious manuscript of the 400 year old copy
of John Dee's translation of Olaus Wormius' translation of
Abdul Alhazred's Al Azif... I for one am one of those who
believe that your friend and mine, the Necronomicon, was a
nice figment of Lovecraft's imagination, or at the most a
quick steal from memory.  And even if it did exist, it has
been so overpublicized [sic] that any copy that I could get
my grubby little hands on would be a cheap (or quite ingenious)
little hoax.  Why would I want to read it anyway?  We all
know what happens to those who delve too far into those
unspeakable horrors!  (Insert cheap horror music here.)

But let's forget the Necronomicon.  Does anyone out there
know which Lovecraft books actually exist?  I don't have a
canonical list of all the texts mentioned in his stories,
but going by the table from the CoC RPG, I know of 2 only.
These are:
	Cthaat Aquadingenb (what the hell does that mean?!)
by Wherner Goltz [sic].  Deals with among other things, the
god Dagon, a sea god of the Phonecians or some other peoples
from that region.  This work was written in the Germany during
the Ren. to the best of my knowledge.
	The Golden Bough by Frazer.  A *huge* set of volumes
dealing with every culture under the sun.  Every anthropologist
should have one. (I just have the abridged edition, a mere
700 pages.)

Does anyone know of any other books on the list or from HPL's
works that actually exist?  I would be interested in hearing
if someone knows.

Much thanks....

jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu
____________________________________________________________________
"common human laws and interests     "I wouldn't exactly call it a
 and emotions have no validity        a happy dogma, but it makes me
 or signifigance in the vast          feel better about not 
 cosmos-at-large..."                  getting laid..."
		-HP Lovecraft                 -R. Carter
____________________________________________________________________


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From: kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe)
Subject: Re: Vampire advise
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 00:15:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Aug21.204428.26665@uceng.UC.EDU> sweide@uceng.UC.EDU (Steve Weide) writes:
>  I was wondering if anyone could point me toward some Vampire material
>(books or movies) where the Vampire is the main character.  Not trash like
>the movie To Die For but something thought provoking. 
>                                     Thanks, 
>                                   Steve

No question about it.  Anne Rice's a)interview with a vampire
b)Vampire Lestat..........are both excellent reads.  
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: hopkins@agora.uucp (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Good Horror Films?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:47:02 GMT

	In the previous article on bad horror films, I believe I found 
a mistake.  _Chillers_ was done by Dario Argento (I think) and not Hooper.
	But anyways, I agree with the more interesting question of what is
a good horror film.

My faves include:

Nosferatu - the silent version.  Anyone know how to get their hands on the
remake with Klaus Kinski and dir. by Werner Herzog.  I'd love to see it!!!

Dead of Night - An oldy (1945) with a series of stories surrounding a
meeting of people.

Curse of the Demon - Directed by Jacques Tourneur of _I Walked with a
Zombie_ fame.  Not all that scary, but entertaining nevertheless.

The old Dracula & Frankenstein - Weak adaptations (if you can call them
that), but still quite good.

The Masque of the Red Death - One of Roger Corman's Poe stories.  Pretty
good, and as a bonus, they throw in _Hop Frog_ by Poe into the movie too.

Night of the Living Dead & following sequels - 'Nuff Said!

Martin - An interesting look at modern vampires.  Directed by Romero.

Evil Dead 1 & 2 and hopefully 3 :>

Freaks - Directed by Tod Browning (Dracula), pretty intense film for being
made in the 30's!  Actually used real circus freaks too.

The Exorcist I & III - Call me weird, but I love part 3.  Sure it's got
problems, but the acting is great (What can you expect from George C.
Scott! _Firestarter aside_)  Brad Dourif (Chucly's voice) does a fantastic
job as the Gemini Killer.  Sure it's confusing, but watch it again and
again... and you'll soon understand.  Or read the book _Legion_ by William
Peter Blatty who did the first one.  He also directed the movie!  Comments,
please?

	There's still plenty more, but I'll cut it somewhat short.  If this
discussion keeps up, I'll list more.  Please people, tell us your favorites
(I've seen a lot, but there's still more out there!)

			-Casey
		"I love the smell of napalm in the morning!"
				-Robert Duvall "Apocalypse Now"
				a
From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: A few more authors
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:02:43 GMT
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group

In <6841@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:


>     Finally, I'll mension Thomas Ligotti who again is very much worth the
>  effory of finding his stuff.  Apparently he's released another book after
>  "Songs of a Dead Dreamer".  The only work of his that I've read is short
>  fiction published here and there, but it's quality is *very* high.

Yes! Great to see someone else is reading Ligotti. I`ve never been so
impressed by horror writing as I was by "Songs of a Dead Dreamer".
I have "Grimscribe" his second book, but somehow it hasn't quite hit the
spot for me. The writing seems somehow clumsier, but I'll give it a second
go later.

>                                 Owen.


							Steve
							steve@fulcrum.oz.au
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Graham Masterton (was James Herbert)
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:22:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug17.054445.17070@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> af322@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Adams) writes:
>
>In a previous article, laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) says:
>
>>
>Did you ever see Slugs the movie?  I'd never read slugs but did read
>Breeding ground.  


I saw the movie "Slugs" and found it pretty nauseating, but I found the book
to be even more nauseating and "Breeding Ground" was even worse!
			Laurel

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________


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From: enomura@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies,bit.listserv.cinema-l
Subject: Hellraiser III release date
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:30:28 GMT
Followup-To: alt.horror


E!'s Coming Attractions this week aired the trailer Hellraiser III (again)
and this time they said "September 11."

ed

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From: amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Witch Board....Is it true....????
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:22:30 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

Jai K. Singh <U11960@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>Does anybody know about witch board.  I've heard using this board
>you can call the spirits and this board is available in your
>local toy stores.  I've heard stories (supposedly true stories)
>of spirits being called using this board and they do come.
>If anybody knows more about it, please reply soon 'cause I'm
>planning to try it out.

There is something called an Ouija Board (pronounced Wee-jee) which
supposedly lets you contact spirits.  It is a board with letters and
numbers on it, and a little planchette that you place your hands on.
You ask the board questions, and it _supposedly_ moves by itself and
spells out answers.  Yes, you can easily find it in any toy store.

							-Amy-
							 :)
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