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From: eeajm@sunvis1.vislab.olemiss.edu (Movahedi Alireza)
Subject: Your advice
Organization: Mississippi Center for Supercomputing Research
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:00:04 GMT

Salaam doostane garami,

One night in Mississippi when all our friends were sitting and 
talking to each other, one of us raised a question that I 
thought it might be interesting to raise it here in the net.

The question was "what would be your five most important advice
to iranian government?".

For example, someone said "I would ask the Iran's government to 
put most of his effort into building as many sport club as 
possible", and so on....

Please contribute if you wish.

Thanks 
Alireza.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Subject: Re: KURDS KILL SEVEN IN MISSLE ATTACK ON TURKISH TOWN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:37:00 GMT

In article <12NOV199223320147@utrc.utc.com>, ali@utrc.utc.com (ALI BABA) writes...
>In article <12NOV199213254704@rosie.uh.edu>, cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes...
>>In article <1992Nov12.183057.5400@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>, javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes...
>>>In article <12NOV199206532838@rosie.uh.edu> cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
>>>> I am so happy! As a Kurd I'm sick of us trying to work things
>>>>peacefully or asking other countries to help us. What we need
>>>>to do is to kill all those goddam Arabs and Turks that act nice
>>>>as individuals, but are monsters when they're with their own
>>> 
>>>Notice how conveniently he left out Iranians.  Whose payroll is this guy
>>>on?
>>> 
>>>>kind. Those Pesh Madgres are the only true heores left in the
>>>>Middle East!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Satan.
>>>>
>>> 
>>>Isn't there a conflict of interest with Ahoora Joon here? hmmm..
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Agha Javad
>>> 
>> 
>> What the fuck are you trying to be sarcastic of?
>> 
>>Satan.
>> 
> 
>Hey shyetoon bala;
>Ignore Javad baghaal;
>This guy dosn't know his left hand from the right one, He has been down for a 
>long time. I think (baghaaleh sareh Kocheh golesh zadeh) and hand him some
>baghalli.
> 
>                    ********************************
>                    * ALI BABA, not an old legend, * 
>                    *   But a new guardian angel   *          
>                    ********************************
> 
> 
>Internet = Ali@utrc.utc.com

 Thanks man! Its good to know their still some REAL IRANIANS on SCI.

P.S.
 From what I here about Khanem Javad, he very much likes his right hand!

Satan.
From: bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Seyyed and the Politics of Difference
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:54:14 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <lfjj0vINN9o3@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (Assana Fard) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.043107.19477@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>
>		[garbage deleted]
>
>>
>>1) God says that women should wear hejab.
>>2) God has created us, therefore knows better about our own benefit.
>>3) God is kind to us and wants our good and prosperity.
>>4) We should seek our good and prosperity.
>>5) Therefore we should obey God, and his order about hejab.
>
>bwaaahahahha! hilarious!
>
>I often wonder if seyyed is playing a practical joke on SCI!!
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I mean, could a sane person think this way?? in the last decade of
>the 20th century???

no i don't think so. but if seyyed's statement is correct, and
that god has created us, then it is god that is playing a
practical joke by creating seyyed.

>
>--
>         ^-^
>        /o o\
>       ===^===   assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
>          -   

behzad
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Asian Cup Final
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:07:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Japan beat Saudi Arabia in the final game 1-0. Japan beat China 3-2 and SA
beat the UAE 2-0 in the semifinal. I just got the news from my family in
Riyadh. This time Japan won without a contraversy. My brother wasn't upset
because Japan clearly outplayed the young Saudis. I was surprised that Japan
won the final, SA made it to the final and Iran got eliminated in the early
round. I hoped that Iran and SA would meet in the final but it didn't happen,
unfortunately. Maybe next time.

Malik......
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: WWWWWWOOOOOWWWWWW!
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:24:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <sehari.720944289@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>I knew you should have told your momy, that Sayyed is a bad boy.  But, what
>about alt.feminism!  
>

the objective is not punishment, my poor victim of 'sexual stimuli
bombardment'.  people like seyyed need to be heard by as many people
as possible.  dont worry, he doesnt mind it.  im his favorite publicist!

rereading the article, i really *should* have cross-posted it to 
rec.humor, where it really belonged in the first place...

>Are you satisfied, now? -:)

im afraid it takes a little more to satisfy me.  must be the over-dose
of sexual stimuli... 

ps you didnt tell us how you cope with people not wearing hejab around
you day in an day out.
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Your advice
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:46:32 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov12.015430.16234@ra.msstate.edu> eeajm@sunvis1.vislab.olemiss.edu (Movahedi Alireza) writes:
>-- 
>
>
>From: yekaty@eshgh.edu
>Subject: Re: Your advice
>Message-ID: <1689B148FF.UC534183@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
>Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
>Nntp-Posting-Host: mizzou1.missouri.edu
>Organization: University of Missouri
>References:  <1992Nov10.180004.2400@ra.msstate.edu>
>Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 23:23:00 CST
>Lines: 25
>
>In article <1992Nov10.180004.2400@ra.msstate.edu>
>eeajm@sunvis1.vislab.olemiss.edu (Movahedi Alireza) writes:
> 
>>>
>>>Salaam doostane garami,
>>>
>>>One night in Mississippi when all our friends were sitting and
>>>talking to each other, one of us raised a question that I
>>>thought it might be interesting to raise it here in the net.
>>>
>>>The question was "what would be your five most important advice
>>>to iranian government?".

Commit mass suicide. Maybe then, someday, Iran could have a sane and
responsible government.



-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mhz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mariam Hakim-Zargar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: String instruments in Iran
Summary: Why didnt such instruments like cello and violin catch on in Iran?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:34:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov5.213447.23441
Reply-To: MHz@nwu.edu (Mariam Hakim-Zargar)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA


bA salAm,

	For the person who asked why didnt instruments like violin and
cello catch on in Iran; that's a great question, and here's what I have
found on the matter:

	It has been recorded that there were several bowed instruments
developed in Iran.  For instance, during the _SAsAni_ dynasty (what is 
that called in English?), a bowed instument called _ghazhak_ (today known
as _gheychak_) was quite popular.  This instrument's popluarity seemed to
die becuase evidently the players were not very skilled, so it never 
really caught on (Or at least that is what Mr. Rouholla KhAleghi says in
his book: _Nazari be Mousighi, bakhsheh dovvom_).

	You said something to the effect that the cello has such a deep 
mellow tone which suits persian music.  I would like to take a step back 
and mention that Iranian music has not always had the "sad" tone it has 
today.  Before the Arab invasion, the persians had a very "happy" music, 
something like the Turkish music of today.  So for that music, an
instrument like the cello would not at all be suitable (though a violin 
would).  After the arab invasion, music was totally (and I mean totally) 
outlawed, becuase it was primarily associated with the _eish-o-noush_ 
of the kings.  So the musicians were forced to hide their insrtuments 
(which would be hard for a cello ;-) and had to take refuge in dark, 
dismal graveyards, (and other such secluded places), where they could not
be heard... in this manner the _ostAd_s continued to teach the music to
their students.  They spent their hours in dark, damp, and most often 
lonely, secluded areas, playing away at their instruments, keeping the 
music alive; but, they could not help the effect of the opression, and thus 
the music became so _souznAk_ or sad.  So, I guess we can say, that perhaps
the truth of the matter lies somehwere between what Mr. KhAlighi says about 
the popularity of the bowed instruments dying due to lack of skill, and what 
I have mentioned about the history of change in persian music.  Decide for
yourself: I am sure there are many other explanations out there as well.

[key note:  The arabs did not outlaw all music, just Persian music.  They
came with their own music (ie. Ghor'An khAni, rowzed khAni, etc) which
was primarily of a religious nature. Only music for the purpose of enter-
tainment was prohibited.]

may your cello katteh nagardad,

				MHz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: 80132@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Nasser)
Subject: Re: RE: a poem
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:27:20 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim

In article <80132.23.720958977@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de> 80132@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Nasser) writes:
>From: 80132@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Nasser)
>Subject: RE: a poem
>Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:22:57 GMT
>ey sAlHAye gomSHodeh, ey AH ...
>
>az man keh dar havaly e pAy~zam
>tA sAyeh sAr e KHAterey e An daraKHt e syb
>CHandyn baHAr, fAseleh mandast.
>
>
>dastam deraz nist
>tA An anAr e jangaly e door dast rA
>bar meil e dyrsAleh e zanbylam -
>                             bespAram
>
>vAn dAneh e tamaSHk
>az mazeh e daHAn e man, door ast door door.
>
>                   ------>      edameh dArad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Subject: Re: Ms King Is this your real name???
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 01:38:20 GMT

In article <4377@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) went on about...
>It is true that the purpose of this (and other) newsgroup/s were established
>to exchange ideas and opinons; HOWEVER, when these ideas and opinions are
>used as personal attacks against sensitive issues (like religion), they lose
>their credibility and are vulnerable to being attacked by people who wish to
>uphold the dignity and rights of not only their religious beliefs but identity.

The "dignity and rights" of our religious beliefs and identities are not upheld
by spewing racist remarks at people who hold differing opinions.  In fact, they
degrade our fine religion by showing people that we must resort to personal
attacks to make a point.  A coherent discussion with facts is always welcome,
of course.

>I don't appreciate reading very racist remarks towards anyone and perhaps it
>should be addressed via email, but you, Mr. Navid, should restrain yourself
>from supporting this by justifying the statements of such people who initiated
>it - unless, of course, you share in their opinions and slanders of Islam and
>Muslim people.

Expressing revulsion at racist remarks neither supports nor rejects the views
of the victim of these remarks.  In addition, it is possible for a person
to criticise the interpretations of some Muslims on the subject of Islam 
without "slandering" the religion.

Yasmin
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: AghA farhAd ham assabAni shod!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 03:48:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: polkadot

In article <1992Nov7.044120.20563@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.015710.7432@netcom.com> bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>
>>>Remember Mr. nAsser arabhA?
>>
>He was the editor of Farad Magazine which printed an improper caricature
>of Ayatollah khomeini.

So what happened to him when he decided to exercise his
right to free speech, seyyed?

--
         ^-^
        /o o\
       ===^===   assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
          -   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Report Saudis Willing To Work Toward OPEC Production Limits
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:14:39 GMT

---
11/09 (DJ) Report Saudis Willing To Work Toward OPEC Production Limits

    LONDON -DJ- Saudi Arabia is willing to work towards an agreement to
limit Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries oil production if
such an agreement would include all OPEC member countries and is
equitable and ''credible,'' Gulf sources said.
    The sources, who declined to be identified, said the kingdom, OPEC's
largest oil producer, isn't happy with current oil price levels, and
would like to see higher world oil prices.
    They added that Saudi Arabia's oil production is running at 8.4
million barrels a day. However, the sources wouldn't comment on whether
the kingdom would be willing to reduce that production level under any
new OPEC oil production limitation agreement.
    OPEC ministers are scheduled to meet in Vienna Nov. 25 to map out
oil production policy for the first part of next year.
    Algeria and some other countries hope OPEC will be able to rein in
its oil production as early as December. OPEC oil output is about 25.3
million barrels a day, well over the 24.2 million barrels a day the
13-country group indicated it intended to produce when oil ministers met
in September.
    The sources said Saudi Arabia doesn't want to be the only country to
reduce its production to help bolster current weak oil prices.
    They said any agreement on limiting production had to include all
OPEC members, and indicated any production reductions should be
equitably allocated.
    The sources also added that Saudi Arabia would wish any such accord
to be ''credible.'' and acceptable to world oil markets.
    The sources said Saudi Arabia's current posture isn't a departure
from the country's previous oil policy.
     3:22 PM
                                 -END-
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ENTER ANOTHER REQUEST.

-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Lu Cifer)
Subject: Re: The western world
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:09:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.101603.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys224@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>I've been reading this group for some time now,and am confused about the
>negative opinions many have about America and the west in general.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>What is so wrong with us? We may not be muslem (generally),but we do 
>believe in freedom of political belief,religious belief,the freedom to
>find your own path in life,without having it forced upon you.
>E.g. in our culture there is now an almost across the board belief that women
>have the absolute right to control their own bodies,to choose their own
>career (be it prime minster or nuclear scientist or whatever.)
>The point is,people are free here!we have crime,but the criminals are in the
>minority. What system of life could be better? If iranians were free to
>choose their own religion,how many would be moslem? Is such freedom what
>iranian religious leaders are afraid of,because then many would turn from
>Islam?
>Of course,these are just my personal opinions,what are yours?
>
>stephen botha,christchurch,new zealand.
>
>p.s. thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about atheism.are
>there any people out their with negative opinions about atheism?so far,
>i've got only neutral/positive messages about them.
>

I hate to tell you this, but New Zealand is in the Eastern Hemisphere. 
In anycase if you had been screwed over as much as third world countries
have been by the west, you'd be bitter too.  For example, had your 
ancestors not mass murdered the natives on present day New Zealand, there
would have been a lot of pissed off aboriginis(sp?) for you guys to deal
with. 

The chinese knew of gunpowder long before the Europeans, but the only use
they found for it was entertainment. The Europeans having discovered this
wonderful black powder, very naturally found an alternative use for it,  
namely to use it to drive a piece of lead into another human being's body
in order to murder him and take his home away from him. Before gunpowder
the British and French were beating the crap out of each other. After
gunpowder the spread their wonderful culture to the rest of the world. The
most ironic part of this all is the fact that they claimed they were 
bringing civilization to parts of the world where civilization had begun.
They wanted to bring the words of God to the savages, but in the process
they savagely murdered all those who did not become their slaves.

Lastly, just because people state their negative opinions about the West
it does not necessarily mean that they are pleased and satisfied with the
system in Iran. Negative opinions about the regime in Iran are frequently
posted here. There are of course those who support it, as there are those 
who support the ways of the West, e.g you. I personally think there is a 
better way. The best of both cultures if you will.

-- 
ahriman
(aka Lucifer)
From: ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Sixties' Reign of Death ...
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:27:28 GMT
Organization: British Telecom

In article <1992Nov5.175702.2057@fmg.bt.co.uk> ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) writes:

> Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
> Path: fmg!ghbr
> From: ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani)
> Organization: British Telecom
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:57:02 GMT

> FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE INTERESTED
> -------------------------------

			   The Sixties' Reign of Death
		   And the Human Right Campaigns in the Seventies

> This is the title of an article (in Farsi, by yours truely) published
> in the summer edition of Hoqug-e Bashar, a quarterly publication of
> Liga-Iran, the Berlin-based Iranian human rights organisation
> "Dafter-e Ham-aahangi-e Jaame-e-haa-ye Defa'a az Hoquq-e Bashar dar
> Iran".  The article, marking the tenth anniversary of the organisation
> and dated Farvardin 1371, analyses the campaigns for the human rights
> in Iran in the "Sixties' Reign of Death" and its propspects in the
> seventies (Iranian calendar, of course).

> The publication may be obtained from the Liga-Iran at the following
> address:

	   Liga-Iran,
	   P.O. Box 150825,
	   D-1000 Berlin 15,
	   Germany.

	   Tel: (4930) 825 8552
	   Fax: (4930) 826 6286

The publication may also be ordered from the group's US office at the
following address:

	Liga-Iran,
	P.O. Box 8354,
	Rowland Hts,
	CA 91748-0354

Please also note that the name of the group is given above in error.
The correct name is as follows:
"Jaame'e-ye Defa'a az Hoquq-e Bashar dar Iran".

-hossein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.african,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Commodification of Malcolm (Re: MalcomX movie and Newsweek
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:49:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <BxH3FM.9D7@ulowell.ulowell.edu> nchaudhr@cs.ulowell.edu (Nadeem G Chaudhry) writes:
Also during the same time period, the movie MalcomX is going
to be released. 
----
Thanksgiving weekend, same day as Francis Ford Coppola's "Dracula"



These two events will most probably create some interest in the
minds of the people (those who take interest in such stuff) about Islam. 
----
The strategy that Spike Lee has followed in marketing the film to the
mainstream audience (having a clothes corner at macy's, etc.) has
turned Malcolm X into a commodity. Instead of being a person who preaches
revolutionary fervor to people of color, Malcolm X is now the faddish
X hat on white fraternity boys. 

Amiri Baraka has openly attacked Spike Lee for making a film that will
dilute Malcolm's message by commercializing it and let upper middle
class African Americans sleep in peace with the message of revolt that
Malcolm preached.

Yes, the film is a very good thing. But Spike's merchandising methods have
produced undesirable results.

--
Naeem Mohaiemen
216-774-1993
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Taghee needs Segheh advice? Re: AghA farhAd ham assabAni shod!
Keywords: Fish, 1 to 15,  threat, Nokhost-Vaziri and Seyyed?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:23:21 GMT

PasGardani wrote:
> I wrote:
> 
> >What is it when these, SCUM bag khomaini dog supporters , lose argument
> >they start insulting and threatening people!
> >
> >Mr King keep up the good work and ignore these low life brainless
> >hypocrite fenatics.  They'll be punished by their own GOD eventually!
> >
> >Also Mr. king is in MIT, you are the one in his territory BUD,
> >so why dont you pack your bags and get the hell out of here!
> >IRI needs people like you Seyyed, go back  and help them 
> >They want you!
> >
> >May God give you a PASGARDANI [(c) Seyyed] when you get to 
> >the MehrAbAd airport!
> >
> >
> >Farhad
> 
>I had never seen you so angry before AghA farhAd!


Hey you've never seen me AghA Seyyed.  We tried to invite you
and bring you here,  we even promissed to execute a cow for you
but you said NO.

The invitation still stands! with you favorit PasGardani at S.F.
airport.


>You surely are very loyal to your masters! Keep kissing their hands, but
>at least wake up from khAbe khargoushi!

Hahh I am not even close to your foot licking style dude.  

>Remember Mr. nAsser arabhA? Now use your imagination, and whenever
>you decide to go to Iran, khoub passe gardaneto charb kon, because nokhost-
>vaziri guys might be waiting for you! dar zemn, ye dast pijAmeye rAh rAh, bA
>ye Alameh ketAb hamrAt vardAr tA hosselat sar nareh!
> 
>Seyyed.

I do not know who Mr. nAsser arabhA is . But it seems that 
your masters took care of him pretty good.  Or should I call
him marhoom?

Why should I be scare of Nokhost-Vaziri my dear?  I have not done
anything illegal, unless  critisizing  SCUM Akhoonds are illegal
in Iran.   It seems to me you have not been in Iran lately
ehh past 6 years?  There are a lot of changes there my dear.
they aint as radical as you are anymore.

Remember Seyyed gholee, all these threats of your are being save
in some archive somewhere and someday may come very handy. Keep up
the good work.

Actually pasGardani is not nothing,  you deserve a laggade ghAyem.


Pasgardani  I have a holy question for you:

I have a young fish called  Taghee (well actually it belongs to Mack)
anyway I am taking him home and gona introduce him to 15 young looking
female goldies.  Can I seegheh all 15 at one time for taghee?
Or should we go 4 at a time?


Boos boos

Farhad
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