From: mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles)
Subject: Re: Pet Peeve "No E-mail"
Organization: Auto-trol
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:33:40 GMT

[ i'm only answering one of these so I have time to go check my FAX  :) ]

In article <1992Jul22.001926.9815@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.133111.11125@auto-trol.com> mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul20.235323.28800@unislc.uucp> hastings@unislc.UUCP (Clint Hastings,B1E05,5119) writes:
>>>In article <ted.711661530@sage0> ted@sage0.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ted Ying) writes:
>>>>lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>>>>>In article <BrJJ11.4K5@world.std.com> cisml@world.std.com (Marty Lebowitz) writes:
>>>
>>>Gee. Like it would be so hard to give email access to those who need it.
>>>Businesses were fairly quick to jump on the fax bandwagon, yet they
>>>won't even consider email, which is far more efficient as a means of
>>>easy communication than fax.
>>
>>Sigh.  No, e-mail is *nowhere* as efficient or easy as FAX. 
>
>Where do you come up with this? Sending e-mail is as simple as
>mail [employeers] <resume.txt

Oh really?  Would you like a list of 100 companies in this area that aren't on
Internet?  They all have FAX machines.  The net is a wonderful thing, but it is
really pretty small.

>Faxing it requires:
>Printing the document if it is not already printed, which assumes that
>you have a decent printer available.

Of course it doesn't.  If you don't know about FAX boards yet I will refer you
to the proper articles...
>
>Putting paper in fax machine (assuming you own one), dialing the number
>and hoping that the fax at the other end isn't busy.

As opposed to finding an e-mail address, hoping that your computer can talk to
their computer, hoping the phone lines are up..

>Paying long distance phone bill much higher than that incurred even
>if you have to UUCP the same text long distance.

*Somebody* pays that bill.  Just because it doesn't happen to be you doesn't
make it any less expensive.
>
>E-mail is delivered in under a minute to any place with an IP connection.
>In a company with a direct link E-mail is going to arrive before the
>FAX. Even with UUCP if you set it up for quick delivery it will only take
>minutes.

Erk.  Are you *kidding*???  I regularly use e-mail at work (I'm not opposed to
it, I just think FAXing is easier).  It often is a two or three day turnaround
to get things done.  With a phone and FAX, the turnaround is usually in the 2
hour range....
>
>No one I know who has e-mail access uses FAX to communicate with another
>person who has e-mail access. 

I see.  Nobody.  Nowhere.  Noone.  Hmm, could it be because you are posting from
a edu?  Not that there is *anything* wrong with schools.  Nothing at all!  Quite
the contrary (to avoid the obvious flame war).  It is just that FAX machines are
generally found in the business world, while e-mail/net access is more popular
in the edu world.  A difference of viewpoint, if you like.

>Your the first person I've ever seen advocate FAX over e-mail, the only
>advantage FAX has is that more people have fax access at the moment.

I seriously doubt I am the only person to advocate FAX over e-mail.  Quite to
the contrary, you rarely see anyone off the net advocating e-mail.  The world
just isn't ready for a paperless society.  I wish it were, but it isn't.

BTW, I have nothing against e-mail.  I use it all the time.  I am just pointing
out that there are alternatives which (in my opinion) are better, quicker, and
easier.  FAX is one of them.

One more thought before I go.  Ever try sending e-mail from a car?  It can be
done with a FAX.

Matt
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