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From: rl@ferris.cray.com (Randy Lambertus)
Subject: Re: New Paintworks $C2 Animations
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:10:49 CST

In article <1993Jan6.095724.19556@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
>Reade Glyn Devin (glyn@cs.UAlberta.CA) wrote:
>: In article <1993Jan5.082433.24208@nuscc.nus.sg>, isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
>: 
>: [...]
>: 
>: > Why I stayed awake up till 3 am in the morning just
>: > downloading your X29.Show and stoned out in school the next day.
>: > (OK, don't anybody lecture me, it's just this once :)
>: 
>: This may sound like a silly question, but why don't you just go to bed
>: and just let the SOB time out on its own?
>: 
>: --Devin Reade		glyn@cs.ualberta.ca
>
>	I stayed awake 'coz I wanted to see the file immediately after
>downloading it!!
>
>- DOTW -

 I down loaded the file, but when I try to open it from Paintworks Gold,
I get the error 004A. The file was on my hard drive. I then moved it
to a floppy, and the error changed to 004B. These errors both refer to
version levels? The HD is formatted under 6.0, and I am booting PW Gold
from it's own launcher program. Maybe my PW copy is hosed? Does anyone
know how to configure PW Gold to run under 6.0 on the HD? Did it
reqire an upgrade that I never got? I will have to dig out the original
PW Gold disk and make a new backup and try that one.

  Sorry for all the questions, but sometimes I wish that the programmers
would have made the applications more easy to use, as on the Macintosh.
I really love the move and use philosophy of Mac OS and see some of that
showing up for the IIGS now that GSOS came out, please keep it up. 
It seems that most of the IIGS stuff, especially the early software
will only run from the original floppy disk. We have had our IIGS since
1986 and I reckon it gets used at least 5 days a week. I certainly have
gotten my money's worth from it and wouldn't give it up for anything.

  Thanks....Randy.

Randy Lambertus             rl@uk.cray.com       +44-734-734103 HOME
Cray Research, Region 4                          +44-344-722333 WORK
From: ah499@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Lowercase characters for Apple][ +
Date: 13 Jan 1993 04:52:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I modified a ][+ recently to give it lower case so this is fairly fresh in
my mind.  I used the blanket approach too.  I did both the "shift-key mod"
that involves running a wire from one of the keyboard connnectors to one
of the gameport pins (I ran it to the leg of an adjacent chip per the
instructions provided in a Videx 80-column card manual)   *AND*  added
a tiny DPDT slide switch to the Keyboard Encoder Board after cutting the
"butterflies" so you can either set the keyboard output (whether you can display
it or not) to either uppercase-only or uppercase/lowercase shiftable.  Running
a little cable to a case mounted pushbutton switch would give you an actual
Caps Lock key!

gray@feline.uucp (Kelly Gray) writes:
 
>Second, the ROMS in a II+ are not quite the same as a standard 2716
>EPROM. It is possible to make a replacement, but the simple way makes
>it impossible to use a language card, and the complicated way involves
>building an inverter into the chip socket.

Only on the ][ and earliest ][+ machines do you need a special chip for the
character ROM.  On a Rav.7 or later with the encoder board slung under
the keyboard a standard 2716 with the appropriate characterset does fine.

						John Daniels
						ah499@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: voss@i40s16.ira.uka.de (Stefan Voss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ByteWorks via Internet
Date: 5 Jan 1993 15:18:06 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
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In article <9301050847.AA16647@gaga.maschinenbau.uni-dortmund.de>, dirk@GAGA.MASCHINENBAU.UNI-DORTMUND.DE writes:
|> Is there a way to reach ByteWorks via Internet?
|> 
You can reach Mike Westerfield, the president of ByteWorks at mikew50@aol.com
But be warned because he had problems with mail from outside AOL.

Stefan Voss
(voss@ira.uka.de)
From: epatter@willamette.edu (Eric Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple II Hardware for sale
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:30:45 GMT
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR

Apple II hardware for sale
 
 o Serial Grappler+
 o Apple //e 80-column card in original box with manuals
 
Send me your offer, all (serious) offers considered. You pay shipping.
 
Send email to EricP23 on AOL, or epatter@willamette.edu on Internet.
 

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From: voss@i40s16.ira.uka.de (Stefan Voss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Classic DAs
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:54:41 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: i40s16.ira.uka.de

In article <1993Jan11.150958.24332@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, mark@pokey.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning) writes:
|> Ok, I'm new to the ||gs stuff in some ways and here's one:
|> 
|> I've seen CDAs and NDAs.  I can get NDAs to work by simply dragging them
|> into the DA folder.  How do you get CDAs to work?  Thanks ahead of time. :)

Copy the CDAs in */system/desk.accs, too. After rebooting your GS, press
Command-Control-ESC to invoke the CDA menu (a list with "Control Panel", 
"Alternate Display Mode" and the CDAs you copied). There you are!

Stefan Voss 
voss@ira.uka.de
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From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 10:06:04 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: One keyboard for 2 computers
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1993Jan6.074142.14568@actrix.gen.nz>

In <1993Jan6.074142.14568@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>Not a good idea.  A-B switch boxes are fine for serial connections,
>but ADB also supplies power to the peripherals.  It isn't designed to
>have devices being connected and disconnected while the power is on
>(which is effectively what you do when you switch the device over).

I responded in email with about the same answer.  The power problem would
be solved by having the keyboard power pin being directly connected to
one of the computers, which would therefore never be switched and cause
power spikes.  Granted the computer supplying the power would have to be
turned on first.  Also, when powering up the computers, the keyboard must
be switched to the computer being turned on so that the ADB toolset will find
it in its search.

>Apart from power, the computer might not like having a keyboard appear
>or disappear suddenly (from a protocol point of view).

This is my only concern.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: really basic question
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:22:13 GMT


Doug Granzow - In the very first Grapevine column, not only did I mention
ProLine and net access via Proline, I also managed to talk Morgan Davis into
agreeing to send out a Proline site list to anyone that sent him a self
addressed stamped envelope.

There's so much I want to tell the world about telecomm, but I only have 600
words (max) each month, that I don;t want to start repeating myself.

After the net article, I think I'm going to ask Apple II sysops to send me
info on their BBS. I think it would be a good thing to collect all the
current Apple II BBS numbers and either mention a few each month, or just
tell folks to email me (or a willing volunteer) and get the list by return
email.

Joe Kohn
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From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Subject: Re: Looking for ways to read Apple CP/M disks
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:11:35 GMT

From article <1if0muINNs9g@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU>, by s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Pumpkin Power):
> Dad just bought a '386 and would like to copy all of his WordStar data
> files across, which are currently stored on CP/M format disks.  A
> friend suggested PC-Alien, but we need to know exactly what CP/M format
> the Apple is using, and I can't find it in any of the manuals.
The Telecommunications program, SoftTerm ][ copies CP/M disks.
There is both a DOS 3.3 and a ProDOS version out there. SoftTerm
isn't used much in the Apple world anymore. They left for MS/DOS
land where the market was larger and the pirates smaller.

Kind Regards,
-- 

		Joe Walters att!ihlpm!bird, IH 2A-227 (708) 224-7189
		To know, and not to do, is not yet to know
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From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: Program idea?
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:16:55 GMT

>Davel32@aol.com.  Isn't the AOL-Internet gateway great?
>>Philip McDunnough

Not to toot a horn or nuttin, but the Delphi internet connection 
smokes the AOL or GEnie connections big time. to wit: can you FTP
from AOL or GENie? can you Telnet into an different system from
AOL or GEnie?  Not that I can see...

not to mention that you can telnet INTO Delphi 24 hours a day at
no surcharge (same as non-prime-time rates)...

signed: tired of AOL


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From: ltchean@iss.nus.sg (Lim Thye Chean)
Subject: OctoRAM Memory upgrade
Organization: Institute Of Systems Science, NUS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:25:52 GMT


Hi, any OctoRAM users out there?

I lost my OctoRAM manual, so I have to ask this in InterNet:

I am now using 2MB on my RAM card, all 8 rows filled with 256K simms. I plan
to upgrade to at least 4MB.

1. Can I upgrade to more than 4MB?
2. Do I have to throw away all 8 rows of 256K simms and used all 1MB simms?
3. Can I mixed both simms? For example, reserved 6 rows of 256K simms
   (6 x 256K = 1.5MB), and used 2 rows of 1MB simms to get a total of
   3.5MB? Or reserved 4 rows of 256K simms (4 x 256K = 1MB) and used 4
   rows of 1MB simms to get 5MB?
4. Can I have the dip-switch configuration? 
5. What precautions should I take? 

Thanks for any suggestion. 


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From: jackm@pro-scat.cts.com (Jack Maher)
Subject: Re: GEnie
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:51:30 EST

If you're calling at 2400 bps you've got to _immediately_ type in the
"HHH".
From: mdavis@crash.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Modemworks 2.0 docs?
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:27:17 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <7JAN199317022825@rosie.uh.edu> st1q9@rosie.uh.edu (Devine, Della M) writes:


>    Does anyone know where i might find a copy of the documentation
>for the old modemworks 2.0 software?

I do.  :-)

>I just found a copy of it and
>am trying to make a small dialout program for it.

ModemWorks is a commercial software product.  The latest version is 3.0.
It comes with the Object Module Manager (a $40 value) as well.  ModemWorks
3.0 is $89.95 from

	Morgan Davis Group
	10079 Nuerto Lane
	Rancho San Diego
	CA 91977-7132 USA

	619/670-0563
	619/670-9643 (FAX)
	619/670-5379 (BBS)

>Oh also, if anybody knows, how would i have a program dial a number
>and check the modem 15-20 seconds later to see if it connected or if
>it is still ringing?  A buddy of mine has a modem and we're trying to
>get it connected and i am trying to get an automated dialer but don't
>want to have it ring forever until it's working....
>any suggestions?

ModemWorks can do all this very easily with just two commands.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Emergency help request!
Summary: My RAM card is doing weird things
Keywords: help me
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:40:33 GMT

Ack!  The only reason I'm able to run ProTERM right now is because I set
my RAM disk to leave only about 200K of free RAM.

I have a GS-RAM Plus card with 4 Mb on it.  When I run the GS-RAM test
program, I'm told that two chips are bad (the fifth chip from the right in
the first and third banks -- in other words, they are in the same column
on the board, with a good one in between).

I swapped all kinds of chips all over the place, and no matter what chips
are in these particular locations, they are reported as bad.  So the
problem isn't that I have bad chips, it's that for some reason the board
doesn't recognize the validity of the chips in those two sockets.

What can I do?  I have important work to get done, and can't do it without
this memory.  Any suggestions on what might be wrong?

I went through reseating chips that were poorly aligned, I pushed every
socketed chip in my system into its socket, made sure all cables and
boards are seated tightly.  I ran the TWGS self-test repeatedly with no
errors.  So the problem is the RAM card itself.

The annoying thing is that it was fine when I shut the machine off last
night.  Today, it appears that there is at least one memory location (in
bank 2) which has a bit that goes clear after only a few moments (I
actually set the value of this byte, then read it, and bit 6 is clear).

Help!

- Eric S.

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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM usage
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:04:56 GMT

In article <B0cXwB2w165w@lablues.UUCP> larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) writes:

[ ]
>
>Phil, what is required for the "search engine?"  What is a "CDTV/CD-I?"
>It does seem worthy of note that there is no such "engine;" why hasn't
>Roger Wagner written such for Hyper Studio?  I would think it would be
>a natural?!?!?  My literate daughter (unlike me - besides, she's 
>pretty)
>could really use such an item and the ease of research for school 
>projects
>is obvious.                   Larry

Well Larry in a sense both HCGS and Hyperstudio could be used to access and
play the dat on a CD-ROM. For instance many Mac CD-ROM's use Hypercard as
their means of navigating around the CD-ROM and retrieving information via
that application. The data on the CD-ROM is there as there are only so many
ways to put down the information. There are standards for this, but the data
itself won't do you any good without the application to access and use it.
 
CD-ROM's have really only recently become a bit popular as the price of 
readers has dropped. At the same time the GS is not seen by the CD-ROM
industry as worth supporting, given its current status. Hyperstudio wisely
concentrated on video discs. These are faster, more generic in terms of which
computer controls them, etc...I don't know if there's an encyclopedia for
a viseo disc player. They seem better suited to animated sequences, etc...
 
CDTV/CD-I are standalone consoles (Tandy's VIS is another one). CDTV for 
example is really an Amiga 500 driven by a CD-ROM (with a few extras) and
comes bundled with Groliers and Lemmings. It's currently priced at around
$600. It can be played, and is really meant to be, though the TV or through a
VOC. It's really quite nice. It can be expanded into a computer with the
addition of a keyboard, trackball, scsi hard drive, monitor, etc...CD-I is
the same sort of idea but uses a different OS (OS-9 I believe, or 8!) and
can't be expeanded into a computer. VIS is Windows' based and while not as 
interesting as the other 2 it will probably sell much better. It comes bundled
with Compton's. CDTV/CD-I/VIS look like CD-Audio players. They can be    
operated remotely, the CDTV can be networked to an Amiga!, etc...So far sales
have been poor. I have a CDTV and really like it.
  
CD-ROM readers attached to computers would involve switching platforms and
spending time, energy and more money. I wouldn't switch now in order to get
into CD-ROM. I'd look into the new generation of consoles.
 
What is clear is that the GS is out of the running in this arena. It is the 
only current platform without an encylopedia on CD-ROM. CD-ROM is growing,
and I'm finding it harder and harder to justify the GS, even as a multimedia
platform. No point going  over the sordid situation. It's less than pleasant.
 
Regards,
 
Philip
From: dig@pro-cynosure.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Why didn't my apple need a screen saver?
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:32:02 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-cynosure]

mmelez@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>I've had an Apple //e since 1983, with a "monitor ///" monochrome
>monitor attached, and my screen has never been burnt in, even when I left it
>on for up to 12 hours at a time 

You're just lucky, basically.  Screen burn-in comes from leaving a monitor
(or TV) displaying the same image for a long period of time.  This problem
happens a lot in electronics stores where they have a video camera hooked up
to a TV so customers see themselves.  Often the people will look like ghosts
because the background has been burnt in.  Same thing happens a lot in any
business where they use a computer all day -- typically the same screen is
always displayed and eventually it will burn into the screen.  The bright
colors get burnt in, so a black-on-white display could do more damage, but
either way it is going to be noticeable.

>Which brings me to another question:  Why is a black-on-white screen
> considered better for the eyes?

Is it?  My guess would be that black-on-white is used on the Mac only because
it resembles a piece of paper.  Any DTP application will typically have a
black-on-white display.
From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: AniShow.Sys16 (was Re: New Paintworks $C2 Animations)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:02:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.101212.23484@klaava.Helsinki.FI> cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) writes:
>
>And where might I find AniShow?

I'll post a copy to comp.binaries.apple2.  I don't know if it's
available on ftp sites, since it's a rather old program.  I'll
check cco.caltech.edu as well, if it's not there, I'll put up a copy.

>
>	Tero Sand
>--
>	EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi   or   custts@cc.helsinki.fi
>   "I feel most ministers who claim they've heard God's voice are eating
>too much pizza before they go to bed at night, and it's really an
>intestinal disorder, not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell

Jimmy


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From: bdavis@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Britt A. Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,misc.wanted
Subject: Motherboard for Apple ][e Wanted
Summary: Apple Motherboard Wanted
Keywords: apple,motherboard
Date: 10 Jan 93 23:19:50 GMT
Followup-To: bdavis@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

Hello.  I am need of an Apple ][e motherboard.  If you have one for sale
please let me know.  

Thank you

Britt Davis
bdavis@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: miller@umuc.umd.edu
Subject: Apple II and IIGS Software for Sale
Organization: The University of Maryland University College
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:18:44 GMT

Apple II and IIGS software for sale.  Except where noted, all are
in original boxes and include manuals, documentation, etc.  (IIGS
games indicated):

Games -- $10 per package.

     Space Quest (IIGS)
     Space Quest II (IIGS)
     King's Quest II: Romancing the Throne
     King's Quest III: To Heir is Human (No Box)
     Ultima V
     Scrabble
     Silent Service
     Hardball
     Ancient Art of War
     Ancient Art of War at Sea

Other -- priced as marked, or best offer.

     WordPerfect for Apple II -- $35
     Appleworks GS -- $50
     Point-To-Point -- $15
     Print Shop -- $10
`    Print Shop GS -- $10
     Dazzle Draw -- $10 (No Box)

Apple IIGS System -- $400 or best offer:

     Apple IIGS, Rom 1
     Apple Color Monitor
     Apple 5.25 disk drive
     Applied Engineering 3.5 disk drive
     Apple Mouse
     All cables, including modem cable and printer cable
     Manuals

Inquire by email at Miller@UMUC.UMD.EDU.





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From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: More OOTW (was Nice review by Thye Chean)
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:26:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.024056.3626@nuscc.nus.sg> ltchean@iss.nus.sg (Lim Thye Chean) writes:
>Out of This World
>=================
>
>This is cool, buy it. If you want the best game available on GS at the moment,
>buy it. If you want more cool games like this, buy it.

Agreed! BTW- anyone hear anything about a sequel, yet?

>I am using a Zip GS 9/32, running the full screen mode is NOT slow. I think
>he might be using a 7MHz Transwarp or a Zip GS 8/16. I really like this
>game, especially in full screen mode.

Even on a stock 2.8MHz GS, the 70mm (1/2 height, full width) mode is 
very playable.  Don't put off buying this game, even if you don't have
an accelerator.

>The sound is very realistic, there are a lot of nice details, and it really

Even better with (amplified) stereo speakers...  :-)

>Shangai II   [and the Shareware "MahJong"]
>==========
>
>Unfortunately, this program is not well done. More expensive than OOTW, it
>does not reach my expectation.
>
>1. This game is slow! I am using a Zip 9/32, but it seems that it is slower
>   than my Shanghai in 2.8 MHz! If you have played Majong GS before, you know
>   the speed.

It seems to me that Shanghai II just has different styles of tile
layouts.  Has anyone figured out the board layout (text file) to
MahJong?   That could make MahJong a serious competitor to Shanghai II.
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