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From: horan@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Net Basketball Talent (was Re: Duke Tourney Observations)
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:49:48 GMT

I'd say I have a good basketball build, I'm 7' 4" 290lbs.
I've played ball in college (division I actually) but had a very
lackluster performance.  I've played some organized ball a little
since then to keep in shape.

My game is more one dimensional than a yardstick.  I pretty much block
some shots (not as many as you would think,  once again i'm 7' 4").
I can't remember the last pass/shot/good play I've made.   I'm slower 
than continental drift,  but damn it!  I love to play!


5000
Mark Eaton
From: foerster@zman.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: IU's comeback.
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:05:19 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
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Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Apr7.153656.26842@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, brown@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (Robert J. Brown) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr6.145432.2918@meaddata.com>, bobj@meaddata.com (Robert Jones) writes...
|> > 
|> >Also, why the heck did Meeks shoot that three with 15 seconds to go?
|> >You've got Leary (who had just hit three of them in 30 seconds) and
|> >Anderson to go to.  I think Meeks has hit about one three pointer in
|> >his career.  15 seconds was plenty of time to work the ball around.
|> 
|>   Actually, Jamal Meeks has scored a 3 point basket in almost every game
|> this season. As a matter of fact, I think that might be his scoring average
|> for the year: 3. I would have rather seen Leary shoot the shot (it SHOULD
|> have been Bailey - Hell, the desperation shot should'nt have been neccesary
|> in the first place!!) but I was not altogether uncomfortable with the way it
|> was. Duke and the refs just wupped us, that's all!

I think it was Duke and ourselves that wupped us.
Yea, you can go on and on about calls during a game that supposedly decide the
outcome but in this case I just think Duke flat out out hustled us.

I can think of 4 or 5 layups or short jumpers in the first half that IU blew that 
would have easily made up a 3 point difference. 

When Duke came out in the second half, IU just couldn't turn it up another notch
to match Duke's intensity. I've never seen an IU team so rattled as during that
stretch and I've watched nearly every game this year.

Congrats to the Dookies!!!

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From: mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson)
Subject: Metro whinings (was Re: Bearcat's next year)
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:01:28 GMT

Kevin Klinge writes:

[regarding UC]

>The smartest thing your school
>did was to leave that cesspool of a conference called the Metro and join a 
>REAL conference that shares tournament revenues among the various members. 

yep.  agreed.  the metro could be interesting if it did share revenue.

Last year, 4 teams split from the metro (UC, Memphis State, So Carolina, FSU)
3 of these teams had great years.  kinda makes you wonder...

But in all fairness Kevin, Virgnia Tech got something out of the metro this
year they've never gotten before: sole possesion of last place.  Last year
we had to share it with So Miss, but not this year!  No Sir, we have it all to
ourselves this year.  We're probably the favorite for next year also.  :-(

Michael Nelson
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: SHAQ to Charlotte?
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:48:20 GMT

Botany and Plant Pathology writes:
>The Shaq ending up in N.C.? Somehow it doesnt seem appropriate. 

Teaming Shaquille with LJ looks like a very good option.  Still, if it
came to that -- i.e., if Charlotte had the #1 pick in the draft -- I
would seriously consider trading it for Hakeem.

Yeah, I know -- Hakeem is older and is fragile and Shaquille will
rewrite the book on centers.  But in order to contend, you need a
veteran.  You can't just keep getting young kids, no matter how good
they are.  Does the word "Clippers" sound familiar?

Well, I said "seriously consider", I didn't say I'd do it right away.
But if Houston is really trying to unload Hakeem, they might even
sweeten the deal with their own first round pick, and Charlotte could
set itself for a long time to come.  As Judy Tenuta says: ``It could
happen!''

>Wouldnt it be hilarious of Charlotte gets the #1 pick and took Laettner?
>I'm sure the country would have a good laugh at that--but there would by a
>lynching in N.C.

What's his name, the Hornets owner, has probably learned by now that
drafting the local kid is good for some applause on draft day but not
much more.  As for lynching -- I thought they had lynching in N.C.
no matter who they draft.  (Moo Moo -- I didn't really mean that.)

>cc: GIDI

Thanks, Roy, but it's not necessary anymore.  As the huge wave of
tournament woofing has died, I decided I can do without a KILL file.

--Gidi
					Shaquille:  this word does not
					exist in any language/ this word
					cannot be pronounced...
From: navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Harrington signs with LSU
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:21:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU, Corvallis, OR.

Hey! Hows the old ticker?
Please let me know when the above happens. 

:)
:)
Roy
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: SHAQ to Charlotte? - NO TRADE for Hakeem!
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:09:17 GMT
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad

>Now to the point: If Shaq does go to Charlotte I bet North Carolineans
>start talking about him as superhuman,best player ever to play bball,
>Godlike etc etc etc.

Why this assumption that Charlotte will have the worst record?  Last
time I looked, they weren't even close to having the worst record.  
There were at least five teams with fewer wins and/or more losses.
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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From: webb@sparc.ncsu.edu (spud)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: OKAY, DUKE FANS... WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NEXT YEAR?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:30:10 GMT
Reply-To: webb@sparc.ncsu.edu (spud)
Organization: North Carolina State University SPARC Project

washburn@sparc.ncsu.edu (chris) writes:

>One question for all you miserable Duke fans out there:

yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ricker) writes:

>>What are you going to do next year when you don't have Christian Laettner
>>to make that miracle last-second shot to get you into the Final Four?

>>Just wondering.

> If anything, Duke is going to beat the crap out of NC STATE.

and what's the overall record between state-duke over the past ... hmm?

oh yeah?  at least we were undefeated against carolina this season...
"national champs" were 1-1 in the regular season against them!

blue devils suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they won't even make it to the postseason!!!
cherokee parks is o-ver-rated!!!

i better not catch your nasty ass on campus, 'ricker' 
or i will wipe it off the map!!!

what's with this 'ricker' name... you used to play on silver spoons or WHAT!

go wolfpack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


spud (bennie's bro')
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Freshman talent in the Final Four
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:06:08 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <702574000@termite.cs.duke.edu> db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>Case 2 above is standard practice. How do you think Danny Ferry's
>high school coach got to be an assistant at Duke?

Didn't Ferry play at DeMatha for Morgan Wooten? Is he really an assistant at
Duke now, I thought he was still at DeMatha. Maybe it was a Wooten assistant?




Russ Smith
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From: rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: laettner in trouble?
Keywords: Laettner, GQ article, diary, NCAA
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:49:44 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <2433@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.114812.1646@mercury.ncat.edu> lazarea@mercury.ncat.edu (Andy Lazare) writes:
>>just read in the winston-salem paper that laettner might be in trouble.
>>apparently he signed a contract with the magazine GQ to write his diary.
>>he made this contract during the season. but i think he wasn't suppose
>>to write it till after the season. not sure though.
>>
>	Needless to say, if Laettner did sign that contract before the
>tourney, I will admit that Christian's stupidity has been grossly
>underestimated. (At least, it wasn't point-shaving.)

What is also surprising is the fact that this comes out now when it has
been very public knowledge for the past year.  It was even mentioned
in Sports Illustrated at the start of the season in their preview.  I
am also surprised that the Duke Athletic Dept. didn't check into it
more carefully.  All I've heard so far are comments to the effect
"we didn't think there was a problem".  When you're dealing with an
institution that suspends players for appearing in charity calendars,
you can't take anything for granted.

Hmm, will the record books show Duke's 1991-92 record as 1-35???
(Laettner missed a game with injury)
-- 
Ronnie Smith             Duke University                Durham, NC 
 Addresses: CSNET: rws@duke  UUCP: decvax!duke!rws  INTERNET: rws@cs.duke.edu

The next Duke Invitational,  April 3 - 5, 1993 in New Orleans.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil)
Subject: Re: Poor Announcing By CBS
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:48:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.

gs@quintus.com (Georges Saab) writes:
: pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil) says:
: 
: >One final point, in my heart, I wanted Michigan to win. But logic and my head
: >were telling me Duke was going to win.  They had lost before and knew what it
: >felt like to lose the championship game.  Also, if Michigan makes it to the 
: >finals again, look for them to win.  
: 	       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 
: Is that your head talking, or your heart?

It's a little of both.  I remember about three years ago, Duke went to the 
finals and got killed by a seemingly invincible UNLV team.  That game taught 
Duke what it was like to lose the championship.  Duke learned from that 
experience and did not lose the last two years.  My feelings are that Michigan,
if they make it back to the championship game, will not lose it again.  The 
only stipulation for this is that Michigan must have the same team, or a team
with the majority of this years players remaining, for this reasoning to hold. 

--Pranav 
  (Buffs, Broncos, Nuggets, and Rockies)

PS: I am neither a Duke or Michigan fan. My loyalties (in order, for college 
    hoops) are as follows:  Colorado, North Carolina, Any Big-8 School, and 
    then anybody else. 

 
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: More exciting Washington baketball problems
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:56:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

The University of Washington athletic department announced on Friday that
sophomore guard James French has decided to leave the U-Dub basketball 
program and transfer to another school.  French was the only freshman to
have started every game in the 1990-91 year in the Pac Ten.  No word as
of yet on where he would like to transfer to.  According to French, his
decision to transfer had nothing to do with the recent investigation of
Coach Lynn Nance for allegations of racism.  He transferred because he
wanted to play at school which featured a more uptempo style of play.  
French is the third player to announce his intent to transfer following
this season.  Freshman Jason Bond and sophomore Tim Caviezel have already
announced that they are transferring.  In addition, junior Quentin 
Youngblood and junior walk-on Andy Woods were asked not to return next 
year after disputes with Coach Nance.  Since the allegations of racism
in the program were made by the parents of Andy Woods and sophomore
Maurice Woods, it is presumed that Maurice Woods will not join the team
next year either although no announcement has been made.  With the
graduation (OK I don't know if he is graduating, but at least he ran out
of eligibility) of Doug Meekins, there are now four scholarships (five
if M. Woods doesn't come back) available.  To my knowledge, Nance has
no recruits to fill these positions.  In fact, several prospective recruits
have turned away from the program because of the turmoil.  None of the
transfers started consistently this year although French did start at
the end of the year when freshman Bryant Boston went down with knee trouble.
None were projected as starters next year although all would have seen
some time off of the bench.

The final report on the allegations of racism is due out by 4/15 (the start
of signing).  I will keep you all posted as soon as I hear anything....

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Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 13:40:50 EDT
From: <SNOSZB@vm.sas.com> (Sanjeev Banerjia)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Recruiting: Junior, Jeff Capel
Distribution: na

In article <craig.703173015@sibelius>, craig@unx.sas.com (Craig A. Simpson)
says:
>
>brawn@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Andy Brawn) writes:
>
>>the country has verbally committed to Duke.  Capel will probably be
>>right behind Jerry Stackhouse (ranked as the #5 junior) as the top player
>>in North Carolina.
>
>now comes to UNC ( I HOPE, I HOPE :-)).  As for Stackhouse, I heard
>from a friend of a friend of his high school coach that he is leaning
>towards UNC with Duke, FSU and NCSU also on his list.  However, in
>a receint story in the Raliegh paper, Stachouse said that his
>favorite player is Jordon and his favorite color is blue ( now if
>thats "light blue" then I think he will be a Tar Heel ).

Well, I saw Don Shea, cohost of the Wolfpack Coaches Show for both basketball
and football, this past Friday and asked him about Stackhouse.  He said that
Jerry is leaning towards Duke and that he's a pretty bright kid so academics
won't be a factor in his decision making i.e. he'll meet any requirements
easily.
From: saji@snert.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Pete Gillen to Villanova?
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:52:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: uceng.1992Apr8.065229.4954
Organization: Unversity of Cincinnati, ECE Dept


In article <1992Apr7.215718.18177@shearson.com>, mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto) writes:
|> jfw1@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (james.f.whitehead) writes:
|> 
|> > The local paper (Asbury Park Press, for you Springsteen fans)
|> > carried a small item to the effect that Villanova and Pete Gillen had
|> > met about Rollie's old job there.
|> 
|> > Anybody know more?
|> 
|> ESPN reported that Villanova made an offer to Gillen which was less than
|> what he now makes at Xavier.  He came back with a counter offer.  They
|> expect the two parties to work things out.
|> 
|> 
|> Mark

   Todays local news (Cincinnati) said that Pete Gillen refused Villanova
   offer and wants to stay with Xavier. That makes it the 3rd school which 
   he has refused till now. The other 2 being Virginia and Notre Dame. Makes
   sense as 3 of his best players are going to return next year. ( Gant, Gladden
   and Williams).


   Sandeep Aji



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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Officiating
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:18:56 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <92097.113734ISSGTT@BYUVM.BITNET> ISSGTT@BYUVM.BITNET writes:
>The officiating in this years NCAA's has raised some eyebrows for sure.
>However, I don't personally feel that any team has been screwed out of
>the tournament because of it.  I think that the NCAA is the group that's
>causing all of the problems with all of their political bull.

I don't know if I agree. I started the Duke/Indiana game hoping Duke would
win because I wanted them to play Michigan again and give the kids another
chance to beat the consensus #1 team. However mid 2nd half I changed over
to IU because I really felt they were being screwed by the refs. Everytime 
Chaney went to the hole there was contact and they didn't call any fouls
on the guys "blocking" his shots, but the whole night they were calling
charges(both ways) reewarding guys for floppiing. It sure seemed to me
that Duke won the game at the foulline, and I don't see what they did to
earn all the extra freethrows(excluding the ones at the end when IU fouled
to catch up). IU has gotten their share of breaks on free throws in the past,
that doesn't mean that its ok to give Duke the game like that. The sequence
with the 2 calls on Bailey followed by a no call when Bailey got hacked on
a jumper, followed by a technical really amazed me. Knight looked in shock,
and I was in shock at home, it seemed so one sided it was almost funny.
I think Duke is the better team, but without the officating, tehy might 
very well have lost on Saturday, because Laettner never showed up to play,
and they had several key guys get hurt.


Russ Smith
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: nelson@palmerc@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (Nelson Jordan)
Subject: Re: Othella Harrington
Keywords: Hoorayy we're back on the list
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:29:28 GMT

In article <maj1.702826597@Ra.MsState.Edu> maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison) writes:
>Mr Harrington has listed his "Short" List of schools he is considering
>its down to 4
>
>Mississippi State
>Arkansas
>Georgetown
>LSU
>
>Now there's no way he should go to Georgetown or LSU, the pressure
>to live up to the guys who just most recently left would be  just to
>great.. That leaves Arkansas or MSU, and you know which school
>I'll be rooting for..
>
>BTW- I'm not all that hopeful when It get's down to the facts,
>	the purple and gold are a bit too free with their money
>	to see him go anywhere else..

   As it should be- Dale and $- who could ask for anything more?




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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Othella Harrington
Keywords: Hoorayy we're back on the list
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:50:10 GMT

burtonr@qso.Colorado.EDU (Richard Burton) writes:
>Well, how about a coach who can teach a team to shoot freethrows?
>Harrington will never be a star until he learns to shoot his
>free throws.

	With all this junk about how a person can't be a star until he learns
	to shoot free throws -- I'm totally surprised nobody's said anything
	about Chris Webber and his 50% shooting -- so I'll say it now:

	Chris Webber will never be a star until he learns to shoot his
	free throws.

	(NOT!)

	Jazzy J
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Bearcat pride...
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:22:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.133524.762@meaddata.com> daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer) writes:

   Let it be said that at least one Cincinnati fan has enough pride to
   say:

   Congratulations Michigan! It was a great game. Hopefully we'll see you
   again next year too...

   In the meantime, go out and kick some Puke, er, Duke ass for us (we
   would).

   And lastly, congratulations and thanks U.C. Bearcats for a great
   season! You should be proud....I know I am!

That Van Exel is a hell of a player, and has a great competative attitude.
While I think that the michigan guards did a lot to play into the uc zone
(rose going into the corners across half court), uc certainly knew how to
take advantage of it.  That was a great game.

Does anybody know why Fisher took Voskuil out in the last few minutes and
came back with Talley?  The announcers hit the nail on the head when they
commented on Voskuil bringing the ball across half court in the middle,
rather than going into the corners, was the key to Michigan's comeback.
Thats what helped break the uc trap.  Why didn't anybody question taking
Voskuil out, after pointing out that his play specifically changed the game?

Bill


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From: mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber)
Subject: Re: What a crappy Championship game
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:29:53 GMT

Who were you rooting for....Harvard U.?????????????????????