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From: beleg@mighty-joe.isri.unlv.edu (Andrew Bagdanou)
Subject: Re: HELP BUYING FIRST ELECTRIC (SOLID BODY)
Reply-To: beleg@isri.unlv.edu
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:22:06 GMT

In article <92095.171920CXK134@psuvm.psu.edu>, <CXK134@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
) Organization: Penn State University
) Date: Saturday, 4 Apr 1992 17:19:20 EST
) From: <CXK134@psuvm.psu.edu>
) Subject: HELP BUYING FIRST ELECTRIC (SOLID BODY)
) 
) I'm looking to buy my first solid body electric guitar and could use a little
) advice.  Right now I have an acoustic that I sort of taught myself to play
) it's not the greatest guitar in the world, but it serves its purpose).
) Anyhow, I'm just trying to find a decent guitar that I can have fun with.  I
) was looking at a Fender 'Squire Edition' Stratocaster for $200.  It was made in
) Korea.  Is this thing any good for what I'm planning to do with it?  I doubt
) that I'll ever really be playing in a band with an audience, but I also don't
) want to spend money on a piece of garbage that won't last 2 years.  The
) fretboard is maple, but I have no idea what the body is made of (anybody know?)
) 
) Does anybody have any comments about this guitar or any others that I should
) consider?  Any help is much appreciated... I don't know who to listen to when I
) talk to salespeople.
) 

Well, I play in a band right now and our other guitarist plays one of the new oriental
strats and I play an old '67 strat.  I can tell you right now that there is an
incredible difference.  As far as I'm concerned the new strats are nothing but pure
crap (note the disclaimer :) ).  A very wise person once told me that you should
go for sound and not for brand name.  Take a tour of all the local pawn shops  in
your area, you might find a gem.  You see, the new strats are made so that the
quality control on them remains relatively constant.  Thats not what you want.

In the old days (American patriotic music please...) when guitar manufacturing was
a family art and they were made by hand in the good old US of A, once in a while
a really nice piece of wood would come down the line and the guy who was carving
the body would take extra special care of it.  From then until the Fender logo was
printed on the head, every man in the manufacturing chain would treat this guitar
like it was his own because they took pride in their work.

So, no, I would not buy one of the new strats.  If you can, spend a little more money,
or spend some time looking for a really nice used one.


-Andy
From: mdbrown@bmera271.bnr.ca (Matthew Brown 1629309)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Acoustic Guitar - What to look for?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:13:05 GMT
Reply-To: mdbrown@bmera271.bnr.ca (Matthew Brown 1629309)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

I am planning to buy an acoustic guitar.  I've played guitar for several
years.  I presently own an electric and a classical.

I am planning to spend under CDN $800.  I'd like an acoustic with
pickups.  I expect that the guitar might get bumped around so I'd like
something a bit rugged in construction and finish.

What should I be looking for when I go to the music store?  What
questions should I ask?  What should I avoid?  Any comments on cutaway
acoustics?  What about brand names?

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
| Matthew Brown, mdbrown@bnr.ca                                 |
| Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, (613)763-8790        |
| Dare to be audacious!                                         |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pwilson@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Pete Wilson)
Subject: Re: nuts
Keywords: nuts
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:09:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.202423.6032@muddcs.claremont.edu> bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan) writes:
>Actually this isn't re: nuts,  but whoever posted all that garbage that
>makes no sense to me,  all the random characters,  must be nuts.
>
>-brett
>
That's uu (unix to unix) encoded my son.  There's a DOS executable buried
in there

.pw


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan)
Subject: Star Wars Theme
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:24:47 GMT

This is the tab to the Star Wars theme.  Just figured it out myself
and I've only been playing guitar for 3 weeks.  I'm so goddamn proud
of myself that I am going to post it here.  And then I am going to see
if I made any mistakes.

e-----------------3---------3------------|
B---------3-1-0-----3-1-0-----3-1-0-1----|
G-------0-------2---------2-----------2--|  <--- repeat
D-0-0-0----------------------------------|
A----------------------------------------|
E----------------------------------------|

e --------------------------------------------------|
B ---------1-0--------------------------1-0-----3---|
G -------------2-0-0-2-4-2------------------2-0---2-|
D -0-0-2-2-----------------2-4--0-0-2-2-------------|
A --------------------------------------------------|
E --------------------------------------------------|

e----------------------------------3-1----------------|
B------------------------------3-3-----4-3-1-0-----3--|
G---------1-0----------------------------------2-0----|
D-------------2-0-0-2-4-2-----------------------------|
A-0-0-2-2-----------------2-4-------------------------|
E-----------------------------------------------------|

Big smiles

-brett
From: scogpw@uk.ac.cf.thor (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: note-reading with alternative tunings
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:44:28 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1992Apr6.233336.3878@ecl.psu.edu> mpv@ecl.psu.edu (Mike Rivkind) writes:
|I recently taught myself "Black Mountainside" by Led Zep.  I learned from a
|book that gave the notes and the tuning (DADGAD).  It took some time for me
|to figure out the song since I am used to (EADGBE).  
|
|Just curious, has anyone out there in netland learned to note-read (directly)
|using an alternative tuning?  Any advice on how to go about it?  I've never
|seen a book teach it, but then again I'm not very accomplished.
|

I've always learnt open tuning stuff off either friends or watching
someone like Roy Harper (as in "Hats off to..." - taught Jimmy
everything he knows about DADGAD) or just (painfully) working it out.
But if you're not lucky enough to see Ol' Roy in your country I don't
know what alernatives there are. I haven't come across any books either.

(BTW Roy is performing better than ever at the moment, touring with his
son Nick who can do a mean Jimmy P. impersonation with his acoustic
playing with the songs off "Stormcock". Truly wonderful to watch/listen
to!)

Gordon
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: tnbm4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: new guitar player
Reply-To: tnbm4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:04:59 GMT

Hi, My name is Jesse, and I just bought a basic series 10 red electric
guitar with crate amp.  I know little if nothing about playing and
am too busy to take lessons.  Do you guys know any quick and dirty
ways of learning how to play... sorta by ear... no reading notes..
no chords terminology...  I managed already to get the Star Spangled
Banner Down... with single strings... and the basic three Chords
to 'all Along the Watchtower'...

Are there any methods of this type of learning... maybe pictures
of the guitar stings and a label of sequences for songs...

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...

Please Drop me some E Mail.. even if you just want to shoot the shit,
TNBM4@ISUVAX.BITNET
Thanks,  Jesse Chen
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Steve Vai and guitar questions.
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:15:47 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <1992Apr3.00125.29725@ms.uky.edu>, miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D.
Grant) writes:
> 
> Satriani Rules!!! :)
> sorry, i couldn't resist!

Ha ha ha, very funny, it is to be laughed (Daffy Duck). 
Anyway, one of the latest Guitar magazines had the setup of Steve
Vai, boy he had equipment up to 25.000$US... 

Anyone had enough money to purchase the Eventide harmonizer? Worth
3k?

Cheers,
Kent
From: fdeck@smiley.helios.nd.edu (francis deck)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: M. V. Pedulla Bass
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:44:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr17.144448.22800
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


I have an old, but well-preserved, M. V. Pedulla bass.  I want
to know how much I could get for it, since I never play it.  
You see, I bought it, but discovered a sentimental attachment
to the bass it was supposed to replace.

It has the following ecoutrements:

	1-piece design
	Bartolini pickups, 1 P-Bass, 1 J-Bass
	Badass bridge
	Grover machines
	All new military-grade controls and switches
	"Calzone" flight case

I'd be glad to send a picture of it to any persons with a serious
interest.

f. deck
fdeck@grumpy.helios.nd.edu
From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: tube preamps,speaker emulator,convertibles
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:08:05 GMT
Reply-To: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Rich v125njuc@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu writes:


>I needs info on Ampeg triax preamps-amps, groove tube speaker emulators,
>seymour Duncan convertible amps, and dean markely overlord pedals.
>any information - such as price, availability, quality - will
>be greatly appreciated.


I've got a semour duncan convertable. It's pretty nice amp, you can get scads of preamp modules for it to change the tone. I don't know anything about the Ampeg preamps or the markley stuff.

I also use three tube preamps in my midi rig, two kity hawks and a marshall 9001. Kitty Hawk is gone but the marshalls were being blown out by mail order places last I knew. another exceptional deal is the Soho Acoustics preamp you can get from LP Music for $149 (I think). Has 4 different sounds, clean, crunchy, distorted and real distorted, all done with 12AX7's...

dave
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: MUSIC AND TAXES? I DECLARE!!
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:16:25 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr15.091056.1@vax.sonoma.edu> greenspa@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>howdy all again, here's a question that is good for today.
>
>does anybody know anything about declaring oneself as a musician for tax
>purposes? you know, buying equipment and getting the tax write off? 

if you made 25% or more of your income from music, you are a musician!
and you can deduct everything.. otherwise, i guess you are an amatuer :)

aash
-- 
aash@ms.uky.edu, aash@ukma.bitnet     "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
aash@ukpr.uky.edu
From: hroberts@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Huw Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: CHORDS: U2 "One" (Has this been done?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:11:12 GMT
Reply-To: hroberts@everest.srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

From article <1992Apr8.155304.15116@srd.bt.co.uk>, by hroberts@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Huw Roberts):
> From article <sergeb.702637108@bullyrag>, by sergeb@bullyrag.ugcs.caltech.edu (Serge Belongie):
>> I wasn't sure if anyone had posted the chords to U2's "One."  I think
>> they are C, Am, and Fmaj7 with G(add D) for the chorus.  Can anyone
>> add to this?
>>
> 
> Wel, I reckon the verse is something like:
> 
> Am, D, F, G.
> 
> They may be more sophisticated than this tho, eg. F -> Fmaj7.
> 
> There is a middle bit that I haven't figured out yet...
>

The middle bit ('Love is a [something], Love the higher love...) is
something like this:

C  Am  C  Am  C  G  G  F  F

Huw.
From: easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Manic Distortion
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:29:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: wkuvx1.1992Apr7.122955.1241
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Has anyone bought Guy Man-Dude's new album, "Manic Distortion"?
How is it?  Is the album worth buying? 

-Treewire
From: jpmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (jP M{kel{)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Fender-Lace Sensor pickup questions
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:42:45 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki


	I happened to buy two second-hand pieces of Fender-Lace Sensor 
	pickups (with a reasonable price), and put them into my Squier
	Strat, leaving the original middle pickup.

	A few questions:

	1: There's two wires coming from FLS's, a white one and a orange one.
	   For a reason or another, I presumed the orange one is meant
	   to be the hot one (and white goes to the ground); however,
	   when I re-strung the guitar I noticed that the FLS's were
	   out of phase with the middle pickup. No big problem, since
	   I have put a middle-pickup phase switch to the thing earlier.
	   The question: Are the FLS's somehow particular in their wiring
	   so that connecting the wires another way would make me miss
	   something? (Of course, all the pickups in a guitar should be
	   all wired the same way, 70's three-pickup Gibsons excluded).

	2. In what amount the FLS work differently from other magnetic
	   pickups? Are they just single-coil-sounding side-by-side
	   humbucking pickups in a single-coil space?

	3. These two FLS's I got have golden lettering on their cover.
	   I seem to remember that was the 'classic strat' model or something
	   like that. Am I right? What are the other models?

        4. The 250k pots the guitar has seems to work okay with the
	   FLS's. Guitars with humbuckers usually have 500k pot
	   Which ones the Fenders with FLS's use?

	In generally, i'm pretty satisfied with the FLS's. The sound is
	pretty near the original, a bit fuller maybe, although I'm not
	in the best shape to judge minor tonal differences at the moment
	having a bit painful infection in my left ear (should be okay in
	a couple of days). For the price I paid for them, FIM 150 apiece,
	you usually get no decent pickups, and these are really good ones.
	Now I can even play my strat amplified while reading the news:
	the standard pickups picked up too much noise from the computer.
	Wish the store had a third one too...

-- 
 jP M{kel{	({'s are a's w/ umlauts)	  jpmakela@cc.Helsinki.fi
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 "Mit{ turvallisuutta toi nyt sitten on
		jos on vaan kaks katuu joilla uskaltaa k{vell{...?"
							    (R.H. Lindholm)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: hamlet@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Dominic Papandrew)
Subject: Amp for Sale
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA  90041
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:16:19 GMT

 AMP FOR SALE -  Yamahaha Guitar Amplifier 
		Model - G100-212 II
		 
 		- 100 watts/good condition
		- 2 channels, reverb, overdrive, parametric eq - footswitch
		- twin speakers
		- loud...very loud

	I've gotta sell it before i go home for the summer, so i'm willing to
	sell it cheap - my asking price is $150, but i'm willing to discuss
	prices or negotiate

	If interested - send e-mail to hamlet@cheshire.oxy.edu
From: jpmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (jP M{kel{)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Yngie's scalloped Strat
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:20:27 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Apr13.182621.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott) writes:
> In article <22959@goofy.Apple.COM>, ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>> Malmsteen cheats by having scallops on his fretboard...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Kent
> 
> I don't think that's cheating because scalloping doesn'tr make the fret-board
> any faster, does it? I tried out the Yngie Strat and only foud that I couldn't
> keep the damn thing in tune while I played because I would press too hard on
> the strings with my fretting hand.... if I had a good enough ear and a
> lighter tough (which I should develop) I could see the usefulness of the
> scalloped fretboard....


	Many stringed instruments have scalloped fretboards. One of them 
	is pipa, Chinese four-string lute. If you have ever seen a good
	pipa player in action, after that  Malmsteen looks like
	mild-mannered and slow...
                                          


	(besides, I'm still looking for a good book or something about
	 pipa playing. Mine just gathers dust at the moment for the lack 
	 of knowledge...)

-- 
 jP M{kel{	({'s are a's w/ umlauts)	  jpmakela@cc.Helsinki.fi
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 "Mit{ turvallisuutta toi nyt sitten on
		jos on vaan kaks katuu joilla uskaltaa k{vell{...?"
							    (R.H. Lindholm)
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:2538 rec.music.folk:3307
From: indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.folk
Subject: More Indigo Girls tab/chords
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:38:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.33106
Followup-To: alt.guitar


   Hi all, it's me again...I did a couple more songs.  "History of Us" just
has chords, but a couple people asked for them, so I typed 'em in.
   I thought not enough people were asking for earlier IG stuff (off the
_Strange Fire_ album), so I typed in "Left Me a Fool," a very pretty song. And
for the benefit of those who, like me, don't like chords like B6 and would
much rather play D6, I also typed up the chords to "Left Me a Fool" in the key
of G, which is much easier than E; the G chords are in a separate file, so tell
me specifically if you want the easy version.  Unfortunately, I don't have
tablature in G.
   For those who haven't even HEARD the _Strange Fire_ album, but enjoy the 
other IG albums, you should listen to _SF_.  The whole album is, for the most 
part, acoustic (folk-music purists would probably like it).

   Again, all songs on my list have chords, and I can send you the lyrics for
ANY Indigo Girls song you want (including some songs you've probably never
heard), even if it's not on this list.
   Just send me a note telling me which music and which lyrics you want, and
if I've sent you stuff before, don't just tell me, "send me your new stuff,"
because zillions of people have written to me, and I won't know what you mean
by "new."  By the way, if you want ALL of it, this is not a problem; I have
a file that contains everything I've done so far...
   NOTE: I get a lot of this tab right out of the songbooks, so if you already
have the books, don't bother.  If you _don't_ already have the books, I'd 
recommend them; they're lots o' fun.

   Okay, here's the current E-mailable tab/chords list:
   * Blood and Fire (no tab)
   * Closer to Fine (tab: intro)
   * Crazy Game (no tab, but I have the chords in an easier key if you request)
   * The Girl with the Weight of the World in Her Hands (tab: FULL)
   * Hammer and a Nail (tab: intro, ending)
   * Hand Me Downs (tab: intro)
   * Kid Fears (tab: 12 notes!!!!!)
   * Love's Recovery (no tab)
   * Secure Yourself (tab: 2 measures!!!)
   * Southland in the Springtime (tab: intro, part of verse)
   * Watershed (tab: intro, part of verse)
   * Welcome Me (tab: FULL)
   * World Falls (tab: intro/verse, sorta tab for the bridge)
   * You and Me of the 10,000 Wars (tab: intro, part of verse) 
   NEW since my last posting:
   * History of Us (no tab)
   * Left Me a Fool (tab: intro) (I also have chords in an easier key)

   And I'm still taking requests, if there's a song you're just DYING to learn
the chords to....

==-=--=---=----=-----=-------=---------=---------=-------=-----=----=---=--=-==
Adam Schneider     indigo@ucscb.ucsc.edu     U.C. Santa Cruz     (408) 457-2172
             "Your actions will follow you full circle 'round..."
==-=--=---=----=-----=-------=---------=---------=-------=-----=----=---=--=-==
From: glenn@moeng2.minc.umd.edu (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Acoustic guitar pickups (was Re: Hondo II?)
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:20:45 GMT
Organization: The Space-Time Fabrication Institute, Silver Spring, MD.

[.signature virus protection]

In article <11993.9203301849@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
>If you want to just amplify the sound with dis-regrad of acoustic tone 
>tone, then the simplest way is to stick a pickup under the strings in
>some manner (usually wedged in the sound hole). Apart from looking
>horrible, you may aswell have a crap electric to my ears.

I put a Dean Markley pickup in the soundhole of my Yamaha 6-string
once and absolutely loved the sound.  It still sounded like _my_
acoustic guitar (and I _really_ like the sound of that particular
guitar -- played by other people as well as by myself).  I was quite
impressed.  I got my amplification without worrying about a microphone,
and didn't have to sacrifice anything.

Now it didn't sound like an electric, and it certainly didn't sound
like crap.  I had assumed that it was simply an electric-guitar-style
pickup mounted so that it could be conveniently popped into a soundhole,
but maybe I'm wrong.  Anyone out there know what the Dean Markley unit
really is?  Is it a counterexample to the quoted text above, or is
it some more complicated device?


D. Glenn Arthur Jr., The Human Vibrator, glenn@bessel.umd.edu

"Being a _man_ means knowing that one has a choice not to act like a 'man'."
 (From the "So You Think You're a Man" workshop at Starwood, 1991)

You can send me mail anonymously at wi.2743@wizvax.methuen.ma.us (was wi.79)
From: ccmnate@othello.ucdavis.edu (The Jester)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Eddy's New Guitar (relatively)
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:32:36 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Apr1.004044.26603@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:
>Anybody here tried that Eddy Van Halen job that G&L (?) puts out?
>Any good? What's it cost? I hear it has thin frets. I like that notion  
>(I'm sick of jumbos), and the pickups look like they are placed pretty far  
>apart for good tonal variation.

    I tried one of them out about a week ago, and it played real nice.
  It was a lot lighter than my strat, and it was wonderful to play.
  The price is was qouted was $1700.00.  This was at the Guitar Center
  in Berkeley, CA.

>
>AK

Nathan Rollins
ccmnate@othello.ucdavis.edu
From: larsb@mimsy.umd.edu (Lars Baekgaard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Fender and CBS
Summary: my question must have been unclear ...
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:21:25 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <11123@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, skywalker@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
> In article <52780@mimsy.umd.edu> larsb@mimsy.umd.edu (Lars Baekgaard) writes:
>  >Could somebody please tell me when Fender and CBS were separated? I
>  >know that their 'marriage' started in the mid-sixties and that people
>  >in general relate this to a decreasing quality although it is hard to
>  >date the beginning of the down-period. Also, I would like to know if
>  >you guys think that the down-period is over and if it is: when did it
>  >stop and had it anything to do with the separation from CBS?
> 
> I don't get it, I purchased a 1975 Stratocaster (new) and have
> been very happy with it for 16+ years. What made the early sixties
> Strats SO much different ??? My Strat has a maple neck, plays very
> well and has the "Strat" sound and pretty quick action.
> 

It was not my intention to express any opinions of my own and in fact
I am asking myself the same question as you. I was referring to what
people in this newsgroup and some book-authors call 'the down-period
in american guitar' (including Fender). And I was curious about
people's thoughts about how this relates to the connection between
Fender and CBS. I am the happy owner of a 1972-72 Fender Telecaster
Thinline and I do not care if it is made in the so-called down-period.
I am just trying to figure out why the concept of the down-period has
emerged.

regards - Lars


-- 
Lars Baekgaard
larsb@cs.umd.edu