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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:26:56 +0000

I've got a brand-new computer and a new e-address
to go with it.  I used to be 

   jf@Threel.co.UK

and now I'm

   john@drummond.demon.co.UK

It's brilliant! I can read and post at the same machine, ftp
to other machines, ping and finger all over the world, *and*
my References: line will be correct. 

And now, my question: can anyone e-mail me where I can find a
program to display JPEG files on a PC :-) ?

Oh, and Happy New Year everyone.

--John
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: 5 Jan 1993 10:23:41 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan5.173732.12576@spdcc.com> 
joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:

> The best men's scent I've ever smelled, hands down, is Jicky by
> Guerlin.

Gee whiz!  Not five minutes ago I posted that *my* favorite
men's scent is Jicky.

> You can't find it in the US beside other mass-produced
> scents, though it might now be distributed. 

It's available in the US only at Guerlain boutiques.  In
metropolitan LA, with a population approaching 12 million 
people, Jicky is to be found only at the Guerlain boutique
at the beautiful Bullock's Wilshire.

Arne
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfile@bmers3.bnr.ca (Jonathan File)
Subject: Re: Identifying soc.motssers at the MOW
Reply-To: jfile@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:42:35 GMT

In article <C0qtrz.K89@panix.com>, mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
|> jfile@bmers3.bnr.ca (Jonathan File) writes:
|> 
|> >Too bad we don't have a soc.motss pin or something to identify soc.motssers.
|> >Myself, never having been to a motss con, wouldn't know a motsser if I 
|> >tripped over one.  Anyone have any ideas?
|> 
|> There have been soc.motss tee shirts; some of us will wear those (and
|> let others find us).

What is on the T-shirts?  I was thinking about getting one made up at
one of those T-shirt places where they will put anything on a shirt for
you.  Of course, not wanting to make a fashion faux pas, I would want to 
have the correct thing printed.

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From: platinum@montage.UUCP (Doug Swallow)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Pride Rings and public reaction
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 23:54:35 GMT
Organization: Software Environments, Inc.

> I have started wearing my pride rings everywhere, almost, and they
> are a rare sight in the Atlanta greater metro area. I am always
> asked about them, though, whenever I go to a restaurant or smallish
> shop. Strangely, I have never had a bad reaciton. I would have thought
> that, in Atlanta, in Georgia, I would have met some bashers by now. Not
> that I'm complaining, mind you. :) 

Since I bought mine about 4 months ago, I don't think a day has passed that
I haven't worn them. Most of the time, the reaction I'll get falls into
these categories:

  (1) Those rings are very pretty.
  (2) Were you in the Olympics?
  (3) I like those. What are they? Olympic rings?
  (4) Where did you get those?


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/ Doug Swallow
|Internet:   platinum@montage.uucp     |Mail: 7927 Clubhouse Estates Dr.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tovah@panix.com (Tovah Hollander)
Subject: Re: Seid umschlungen, Millionen. Diesen Kuss der ganzen Welt!
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:54:18 GMT


Jack Hamilton writes:
>> I wonder what percentage of our readers have heard it; I'd guess 80 or 90
>> percent. 

Robert Coren writes:
>Yes, but I'll bet a considerably smaller percentage are *aware* that
>they've heard it.

Those of us who've sung it certainly are.

-- 
Tovah Hollander
tovah@panix.com -or- tovah@onion.salad.mssm.edu
From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: This Opera Bouffe we call life (was Re: Travel Advice Needed - Tuscany)
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:47:27 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <1ilcqrINNbpr@mizar.usc.edu>,
adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
> The following paragraph, 
> about Tetrazzini (the greatest coloratura soprano on record) in 
> old age, is from the booklet accompanying the Complete Recordings 
> of Luisa Tetrazzini:
> 
>     When friends and admirers called and -- amid much gossip
>     and laughter -- wondered if she still could, she would go
>     up to the piano and, striking a chord, sing an ascending
>     arpeggio to a perfect high C -- 'Sono vecchia, sono grassa,
>     ma sono sempre la Tetrazzini!'
> 
> The trick is to keep those champagne bubbles bubbling as long 
> as you can.

How typically indiscriminately, unrelentingly,
nastily vitriolic of you, "Arne", not to mention that
a man with enough hair to obliterate facial expressions
gets you hot!

-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Re: Changing standards of female beauty
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:50:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.204306.27757@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>and some of us have been glad to find that the person we were with
>used some sort of moisturizing substance, as it can double as a handy
>lubricant.

I still react erotically to the smell of Vaseline Intensive Care lotion,
which was what I used to masturbate with way back when.  Hey, it was what
we had in the house...

      -paul asente
	   asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

It stood in a windowless room lined with polar bear fur and otherwise empty;
it was upholstered in scarlet velvet, and had nine legs and seven arms.
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Arne Adolphson, Moron At Large
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:22:26 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1993Jan9.050027.12385@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

|> I would like to know how you define "queen" such that you
|> are not one.  I would like you to be very specific about
|> this, and include reliable guides for a taxonomy that
|> divides the universe of gay men into queens and not-queens.
|> I would like you to assign the following persons to the
|> appropriate category, as you define it:
|> 
|> Arne Arneson
	Queen
|> Joe Francis
	Queen
|> Steve Dyer
	Queen
|> Greg Parkinson
	Queen
|> Ken Dykes
	Queen
|> Paul Asente
	Queen
|> Owen Rowley
	Queen
|> Howard Faye
	Queen
|> Nelson Minar
	Queen
|> John Dorrance
	Queen
|> me (ie, Jess)
	Queen
FWA
	Queen

Furr
	Queen (but wishes he was a straight man).


FWA
From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Soc.motss: The Color Version
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:23:31 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu) wrote:
 
> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
> 
> >Woah, I'm slow...
>  ^^^^ 
> Yup.  But cute.

Jahowl!  

That's our boy!

--jns
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: MOW: reservations made!
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:49:07 GMT

I just made my reservations for housing at MOW (I'm driving).  I'll be at
the Lanham MD Red Roof Inn (anyone else staying there ?? as of y-day they
had rooms, $70 for a 2-double, and it's 10 miles NE of DC near 95).

I'm really psyched about this because I didn't think I'd be able to make
it - but I misread the schedule and can make both events I'm interested
in now!
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: crabs (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:39:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan6.033916.6487
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <TIM.93Jan5165654@ear-ache.mit.edu> tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson) writes:
>I thought that A-200 and the like (Rid) are indicated for crabs,
>while Kwell is indicated for scabies.  As far as I know (which might
>not be far), Kwell is prescription only, but A-200 and Rid are
>over-the-counter medications.  Does Kwell work on the crabs, too?
>A-200 on scabies?  

A-200, Rid, and Kwell shampoos are effective against crabs.  Kwell creme and
lotion is supposed to remain on the skin for 8-12 hours; they are used to
treat scabies.  In brief, shampoos suffice to kill lice, but scabies are
mites which burrow into the skin, and you need a prolonged period of contact
to kill the mites.  Another miticide is Elimite, a creme of 5% permethrin,
a synthetic pyrethrin, which is applied in a manner similar to Kwell creme.
Both Kwell and Elimite are prescription only.  A-200 and Rid are available
over the counter.

>Another advantage of using A-200 or Rid for the crabs is that they
>come with cootie combs.  

I thought they were moustache combs...

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson)
Subject: Re: crabs (was Re: Changing standards of skinhead beauty)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1993Jan5.190847.17365@spdcc.com> <TIM.93Jan5165654@ear-ache.mit.edu>
	<1993Jan6.033916.6487@spdcc.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:45:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.033916.6487@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

   I thought they [cootie combs] were moustache combs...

They're good for really, really short hair of any kind.
--
Tim Wilson
tim@ear-ache.mit.edu
mit-eddie!mit-athena!tim
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney)
Subject: Re: HEY WOMYN!!!  Favorite Womyn's Perfume choices..
Organization: Home of the @&#^%$* Crimson Tide
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:47:53 GMT

In article <1ikno2INNt93@rave.larc.nasa.gov>
kristi@arbs1.larc.nasa.gov (Kristi Skeens) writes:
 
>In article <1993Jan6.171404.2578@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater) writes:
>|> Hey---what about us womyn???   What is YOUR favorite perfume on a womon?
>|> (ladies answer only please!!).  Me being the femme I am I have many many
>|> perfumes, but my favorites on a woman are oil of jasmine, Intimate, and
>
>
>My favorite on myself and others is Clinique's Aromatics Elixir...or as I like
>to call it Aromatics Shelixir...get it?...B)
>                                ^^^^^^
Since my SO lives 600 miles away, not nearly often enough...; (
Oh, and Wrappings by Clinique is nice also...
 
Tracey
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Musings on Madonna
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:50:25 GMT

In article <73306@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com
(George Dalton Madison) writes:

>Gary Byma writes:

>>And for the record, possessing a central nervous system doesn't
>>necessarily make you a sentient being.

>No, but it's an essential first step.  ;-) 

Let it be noted now and forevermore that George *does*
have a sense of humor!

<> In the matter of taste: having some, I've given up the bars,
<> rather than be seen as a wag tailing a dog.
<> --Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu)
-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
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[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:53:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.192914.10645@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
> Regarding the timing of different Pride events, I can see arguments for
> both sides: a collective single day has a certain potency (a distributed
> MOW as it were), but logistics may argue otherwise.

Boston has established a local tradition of its own to have its Gay
Pride March on the 2nd Saturday (or is it the 3rd) in June. I've never
been sure why this was, unless it was a recognition (at some point)
that New York was a bigger "draw", and that Boston would get more
people to show up if it didn't make them choose between Boston and New
York. I have no problem with this.

Since I'm not likely ever to be faced with a choice between SF and LA,
I don't much care what they do about the dates of their respective
parades, but I don't see why they have to have a pissing match about
it every year.
From: ptb@meaddata.com (Patrick Bell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Further Digression - Cincinnati Chili
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:26:17 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: echo.meaddata.com

In article <1iuqb0INN88q@lynx.unm.edu>, anthropo@carina.unm.edu (Dominick V. Zurlo) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan12.065600.11151@adobe.com> asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal) writes:
|> >In article <1993Jan8.203959.4544@usl.edu> rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.) writes:
|> >>Chili in Houston is reddish-brown, but in El Paso it is green.
|> 
|> Actually, there is both red and green.  It is also a question of being
|> the chili peppers themselves (stewed, diced, or otherwise) or being 
|> the chili that's chock full of ground beef, beans, and chili peppers...
|> >
|> >And in Cincinatti it is spaghetti.
|> chili is spaghetti?  I think I missed something...
|> But if chili is spaghetti, i think I'm glad...
|> (although green chili mixed into a tomatoe sauce for spaget.. is wonderfull)
|> Flapjack
 
 Chili in Cincinnati is served on top of spaghetti -- it is not that spaghetti
 is called chili in Cincinnati.  Actually, this type of chili served on top
 of spaghetti is unique from either red or green chili.  It contains cinnamon
 and chocolate as spices, for example.  The biggest and best proprietor of
 this is Skyline Chili which is fairly common around the Midwest, but also in
 Ft. Lauderdale and Washington D.C.   All of the chili in these restaurants
 is made in a central commissary in Cincinnati, and trucked to each restaurant
 daily. Trucked even to Ft. Lauderdale. 

This chili is served in Layers.  A "3-way" is Spaghetti topped with Chili (no
beans) topped with mounds of shredded Cheddar Cheese.  A 4-way allows the   
option of either a layer of beans or onions to be added on top of the chili.
A 5-way contains a layer of both beans and onions.

It is also served on top of small hot dogs and then covered with a mound of
shredded cheddar cheese.  Options here are onions or mustard.  These are
called "coneys", named after an old (old old) amusement park in Cincinnati
named "Coney Island".  

Cincinnati chili is somewhat of an acquired taste, but once acquired (usually
while in college after drinking heavily at fraternity parties), it's worshipped
much like a good cup of coffee.

-- 
Patrick Bell           |         All viewpoints          |        (513) 865-7343
Mead Data Central, Inc.|       expressed are mine        |      ptb@meaddata.com
P.O. Box 933           |       and not that of my        |...!uunet!meaddata!ptb
Dayton, OH 45401       |      employer.  So there!       |






Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Soc.motss: The Color Version
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 03:38:55 GMT

In article <thaaang.726631129@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
(John Dorrance) writes:

>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>In article <thaaang.726496087@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
>>(John Dorrance) writes:

>>>(flatterer, I may have to fuck you...)

>>Darn!  Well, I give in, then.  Your place or mine?

>Let's meet halfway. Here, I'll get an atlas...
>Okay. How does somewhere between Ames and Reinbeck, Iowa sound to you?

How about Grinnell?  I have a sentimental reason for wanting
to do it there, and we could probably considerably
scandalize the locals at the small college there.  That
leaves just the question of when?  Seems to me it would make
sense to wait until you're not quite so snowbound, as Omaha
made the national news this evening for its weather.

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Gay-bashing (was: Re: Private...)
Organization: Free Faerie Front
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:51:03 GMT

In article <18320@autodesk.COM> owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
>Oh, I suppose that special factors involved in each oppressed groups
>situation may differ somewhat, but I can't imagine that the pain
>inflicted is any different at all.
>
>This is the one thing that strayt white men never understand, because
>they never experience it...

Not true. Some straight white men are Jews, for example.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
                ---Pogo Possum
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: tearoom sex and bathroom police
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:30:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1993Jan11.153016.18746
Distribution: soc
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


I am against people having sex in public restrooms....Just
a lot of personal hang-ups on my part I guess.

I am against official policies against it though........

But I as a person in the Gay community hope to hell we don't waste 
any or our resources on protecting bathrooms for sex.  Would't it
take some of the excitement away if a tearoom person knew it didn't matter
if he was going to get caught?

Bil Snodgrass III
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris)
Subject: Re: Bar-B-Q Etiquette
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:19:23 GMT

Steve Wingard <wingard@scw.b30.ingr.com> (a member of the ingr "family") 
writes:
>
>TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney) writes:
>>
>>[...]Dreamland Barbecue, home of pork ribs [...], white
>>bread; and canned beer. (When visiting Dreamland, DO NOT tease the
>>waitresses by requesting "a delightful salad." They won't laugh and
>>may kill you.) 

I've been to this place, and Tracey's right.  On football weekends,
you have to wait 2-3 hours just to get into the door.  
(For some reason, the image of Arne ordering a "delightful salad" at
Dreamland just popped into my mind.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!)

>But when you cross over the border into South Carolina, it changes
>*again*.  Stop off at Maurice Bessinger's "Piggie Park" ("Home of the
>Flying Pig"!) in Columbia, and you'll get barbecue sauce that's made
>from a base of yellow mustard and apple cider vinegar, served over the
>same shredded slow-roasted pork...

YUK!

>(I do miss it, despite the fact that Mr. Bessinger is a rather
>obnoxiously born-again fellow who has lots of tracts at the door and a
>ministry next door to the restaurant with a 30-foot cross, complete
>with inspiriational messages scrolling across it in lights....)

That's even better than The Worship Center right here in Huntsville.  all
they have is a Bible-shaped billboard with the little shiny things that
give it a sequin effect.

>Steve Wingard
>(who is also *very* tired of the Crimson Tide, though it will get him in
>trouble with Jeff Norris...)

Can you say "NATIONAL CHAMPIONS"?  Yes, I knew you could.

jeff [one of those obnoxious Bama fans.]

p.s.  Hi Steve!  See you at lunch Thursday.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: BAR Manners in Boston....
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:34:01 GMT

tcarlin@athena.mit.edu (Thomas B Carlin) writes:
>Bob Donahue asks:
>>> WHY!!!  WHY are there no dart boards in any of the Boston bars!

>Answer simple: I wouldn't GO IN a bar that had darts as I wouldn't trust 95% of
>the Bitch Divas in this town with a sharp object.  Hasn't it ever struck you as
>odd that VERY FEW of the bars serve drinks in GLASS glasses?

	10 out of 10 for clueless...  I can't think of a bar I go to
in Boston that doesn't serve drinks in glasses.  Plus other bars
in other localities have darts without loss of life or limb.
Are you implyuing that people in Boston are just stupider than the
average folk?

>AS a friend from NY put it so wisely:
>	"In NYC, people will stab you in the back if you get in their way.  It's
>		nothing personal.  In Boston, they'll stab you in the back for
>		something to do, and it's VERY personal.

	Dunno --- maybe you should choose your
acquaintences more carefully?

>Why do you think everyone leans against the walls.  It's not JUST posing.

	Well, as long as you don't lean against he wall that has the 
dart machine... what's the problem :-)  ??? I'mnot that bad a shot.

	Free clue --- these are plastic darts on plastic boards.
Like I said before they do exist elsewhere --- I refuse to belive
there is any geographical dependency on people's abilty to handle
the situation...

BBC
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