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Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:39:49 NZST
Distribution: world
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
Summary: Ignore this if you have a low sanity threshold
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> Dear God-fearing people: I believe that all of these space people that
> Mr Winston and others talk about are not actual biological organisms like
> humans but either Demons or Angels. Read the Bible sometime: in Genesis
> you will find no mention of God creating humanoids, or, in fact, any other
> life, on any othe planet besides Earth. 

   My Gosh, he's right !!
   What's more, a quick check of the Bible reveals absolutely *NO* mention
of God creating computers, electricity in wires, or Twinkies !
   As such, anyone using any of the above items (Yeah, that means *YOU*) is
commiting a mortal sin, and will burn in heck forever, or at least as long
as "I love Lucy" is rerun, which is pretty close.
   Oh, and has anyone noted the similarity between "Kibo" and "Antichrist"
when rot13ed from the original yiddish translation of sanscrit ? Makes you
wonder, doesn't it ?

Tony Q.
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 12:39:51 EST
From: Robert A Rawlinson <34R33O7@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Farewell
 <71653@cup.portal.com> <bdt702gB2ehZ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>

I agree there is just too much crap on this board. I have to sort through
nearly 100 messages of crap to get one message with some meaning. So long.

Bob

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 06:14:20 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Folks: Kibo is truely a master of what he does and I haven't 
figured out what that is yet.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Flamers and Good People.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 12:24:44 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: Flamers and Good People. 
  I am enjoying all of the comments from all of the people including Oz. 
Scott, Gene, Warren, Jeff, Daniel and Erick. I feel that it would be fitting 
to give Honorable Mention to Max. for his rendition of going to the 
unmentionable place. 
  I do declair Max if you don't watch out they are going to give you a ticket 
for overacting. 
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:41:57 GMT

ReL ETs <--> Demons etc .....

If one were to study the root definitions of the words found in
the Bible one would find that the word "angel" means "messanger"
and that the word "heaven" means "sky"....et cetera

One would also find that during the 120 year period called the
dark age of the church, that after the dark period ends
Christianity and Mithraism have been melded together.  Simply
check what is Biblical and what is actually practised in the
major denominations today such as the sunrise service or
easter.

To take the Bible at word-for-word face value is a silly and
maybe dangerous thing to do as it was never meant to be taken
that way...if it was, then why all the parables rather than a
straight out answer? 

If YOU were to travel through time...then YOU TOO could be
either demon or angel..as you choose.

I can buy a laser pistol with portable baterry pack that
develops a pulsed beam temperature of approx 3-5 million degrees
Kelvin....I can be Apollo.

I can bring a forge back with me....I can be Vulcan.

I can take a power system back with me to power up a holography
system and time my death to the solar eclipse..et cetera...

Test the Bible for validity. Don't be a willing sheep to follow
the fundie wolves...what a fundumentalist will call a false
prophet!

By the way..I'm Christian too.

Len
--
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The accountability of government has gone to the point where the very
use of the law is the instrument of illegality.
		-- Ralph Nader @ Harvard Law School, 1/15/92
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From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: The Devil Drives a UFO.
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:12:19 GMT
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

>Dear One and All: If I were looking for Denice I would look for her
>next week and the week after that.  I interviewed her twice. It has 
>been reported to me by an atheist that I have offended God fearing 
>people. If people want to believe that Devils and Demons drive UFOs
>that Ok with me. I have never seen it myself. But if you doubt it
>just get on the Hollywood Freeway during rush hour.
>John Winston. I figure God has a sense of humor. He made us didn't he-
>she?

You know, John's writings is the net equivalent of an out-of-body experience.

cheers

(now, where did my body go while I wrote this?)


--
Erik Svensson			Research Officer
Guided Weapons Division		National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
Stockholm			Sweden

net.address: 	eriks@fenix.lin.foa.se

"Another casualty of applied meta-physics!" -- Hobbes
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:56:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.143949.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>   Oh, and has anyone noted the similarity between "Kibo" and "Antichrist"
>when rot13ed from the original yiddish translation of sanscrit ? Makes you
>wonder, doesn't it ?

Oh, you finally noticed the rot13 Tetragrammaton.

								-- K.

Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery)
Subject: Re: Yes, I'm sure.
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:17:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec3.231843.14257@cs.mcgill.ca> jeffjc@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey CHANCE) writes:
>emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
>>
>>The difference is that Krishna is a mythological character whereas
>>Jesus is a historical person.  To refrase my statement: Jesus has been
>>the only recognized historical spiritual leader to convince a great
>>portion of the world that He is absolute truth (God).
>
>Actually, Krishna was a real human historical person. Try
>reading the Mahabharata.

What information does the Mahabharata give concerning the time and
location of Krishna's birth?  Of his geneology?  Does any other
source around that time period acknowledge him as a real person?
Thanks for the info.


>As an aside, I don't know if you have been following the SHARE
>thread, but these people claim Jesus has returned to earth (ie
>second coming) and is living in England right now. Any comment?

Sounds like you're probably referring to Matreiya and not Jesus
Christ.  Jesus said that He would return with great glory and all
the world would see.  Oh what a day!

>Jeff

God bless,

John
-- 
John Emery		"You say we've risen to a new age of light.
emery@tc.fluke.COM       You're telling me what used to be wrong
			 is now right."
From: u2d92@seq1.keele.ac.uk (MJ Gumbley)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: David Ash recordings, anyone?
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:33:14 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

Hello folks, I've just finished listening to a tape by a gentleman 
called David Ash. He describes his work as a freelance quantum physics, and
attempts to tie spritiual beliefs together with science.

The first side of the tape is "The Science of Ascension" with
"The Science of Transformation" on the other side.

My friend who gave me the tape said that David Ash has produced a few more
recordings, on this, and other matters.

I wonder if anyone out there knows of them, or where I could obtain
any more of his works?

If you could send replies via e-mail please, to u2d92@seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk,
I'd be most grateful. Thanks for any help.


--
-Matt J. Gumbley----u2d92@seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk----University of Keele, England-
And God said "Are the batteries  |  "An it harm none,  |        |\/|  /    \ /  
included in this thing?" And lo, |  do as you will."   |        |/\|  \ \   X
they *WERE*                      |                     |        |  |    /  / \
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: The Demon Driven UFO.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 06:42:10 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Ones: It's good to hear all of you expressing your ideas. Who knows
you may be right.
John Winston
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Strange coincidence (was: Re: Strange Letter.)
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:58:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.085825.1186@cbfsb.cb.att.com> cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) writes:
>
>Wow, I just realised:
>
>John O'Connor
>John Bigboote
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  BOOTE', BOOTE'!
>John Winston
>
>It all fits in now, and we can really see who John Winston is! I bet he's
>from New Jersey too!

Laugh while you can monkey boy.


--
Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com                       _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
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From: mastr@husc8.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Strange Letter (John Winston's friend)
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:56:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec16.235651.18597
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <71860@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject:  The Letter.
>  Today a friend of mine gave me a letter that was rather mysterious. He is 
>the president of a company and for some unknown reason the letter was sent 
>to him. Please don't attempt to hold me responsible for the the contents of 
>this letter. I don't know whether the things will happen or not but I 
>thought you might want to know this information. Here is how the letter 
>went; Dear Sirs: As our shareholders we feel the obligation to give you this 
>serious warning: 
>
>
>As we told everyone just in June 1991, that the next President of the USA will 
>be a democrat, when Bush was on his high of popularity, so we tell you now 
>that a big meteorit will fall down in China and smaller ones all over the 
>world and cause earthquakes, seaquakes and inundations all over the world. 
>
>This is part of a cosmical event which leads the earth to a higher dimension 
>and we must go through this yes or yes.
>
>It will not take very long until it will happen, but when it happens, it will 
>be to late to take measures. So you must act now:
>*if you live in California: move out from California immediately, do it now 
>don't wait you must leave California now and under any cirvumstances -please 
>so it.
>*If you don't live in California, cancel all your travel plans to go there and 
>tell all the people you know living in California to move out of there now!
>*buy drinking water, long-lasting milk and honey 
>*buy first aid, long burning candles, matches
>*buy sleeping-bags (in case you have to leave your home)
>*also have dryed fruits, nuts etc. in quantity!

[deleted]

>Sincerely yours, 
>Georges McOrleon, vice-president CdC 3252, Asuncion, PARAGUAY (air-mail)
>So this is me (John Winston) talking now. It is obvious that the person 
>sending the letter did not have English as his primary language. I not going 
>out of Calif. yet. I'll write this person and try to find out some more 
>information about it.
>John Winston.
> 
Er, this friend of yours wouldn't have interests in a camping supply
company, would he?  Not California-based, perhaps, but....

Claudia
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Prize
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:07:09 GMT

[sci.skeptic, et al]
In article <71607@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Folks: I just got the prize in from Kibo. I'm overwhelmed 
>with gratitude for the honor of excepting this great prize from
>his organization and followers. I believe it had to do with something
>I said about an INVISIBLE BABY. 

This could be the first step on the way to that Emmy for your show!

>There was also something else in the 
>package but I hesitate to ask what it was. The instructions were 
>written in a foreign language.
>John Winston. It was probubly written is Solar Max or Solax Mal. I
>never can get those two straightened out.

If you taste it you'll find out.  Incidentally, if you mix it into
Play-Doh, you'll get Spam!

							-- K.

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From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: Tunnels #1.
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:33:49 GMT

In article <71604@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: Tunnels. 
[ silly tabloid nonsense deleted ]
>  So there you have it folks. Is it true? Is it false? Is it food for 
>thought? 
Sorry, John, but how about choice 4: pure unadulterated bullshit.

Have a merry!

kbq

--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch)
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:43:27 GMT

In article <3041@israel.nysernet.org>, warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
|> In <71236@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
|> 
|> >The person who calls himself Satan
|> >lives in the UK and if I get his permission I'll put his E-mail address
|> >on the Net so you people can converse with him.
|> 
|> Wasn't there someone with a login of SATAN at MIT in the late 70's?  I
|> had a guest account there which I accessed via NYU, this user seemed
|> always to be logged in.
|> -- 

finger satan@athena.mit.edu

[athena.mit.edu]
Login name: satan                       In real life: Satyen Shah
Nickname: Sat                           Home phone: 734-9211
Office: 39-477                          Office phone: 3-4673
Electronic mail address: satan@ATHENA.MIT.EDU

Login name: erlkonig                    In real life: Satan
Nickname: Velcro(tm)                    Home phone: 262-5090
Office: 666 Hell                        Office phone: 666-6666
Electronic mail address: erlkonig@ATHENA.MIT.EDU

Login name: stmiller                    In real life: Satan B Mephistopheles
Nickname: Wayward                       Home phone: 225-7151
Office: 26-100                          Office phone:
Electronic mail address: stmiller@ATHENA.MIT.EDU

And in contrast,

finger god@athena.mit.edu

[athena.mit.edu]
Login name: god                         In real life: andrew sheppard
Nickname: drew                          Home phone: 5-9778
Office: w1-411b                         Office phone:
Electronic mail address: god@ATHENA.MIT.EDU


Daniel Silevitch                                dmsilev@athena.mit.edu
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: Silican Valley Skywatchers
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:55:15 GMT

In article <71481@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Homo Sapiens: Well I knew it would finally come to this because
>Kibo forwarned me. Yesterday I got E-mail from God. I guess Kibo has
>some sort of high connections.
> Last night I interviewed Denice (Pinky) Solis from this Net and her
>friend Teresa Corona. They have a UFO  club and do a great work in 
>regard to UFO abductions. Maybe she will be so kind as to tell us 
>about her work.
>John Winston.

I guess Denice was under the impression that the show would air right away,
but I was watching last night and it was just a rerun:-(

John,
please let us know when the show will air.

Jeff-
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From: Kevin@ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Farewell
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:39:21 GMT
Organization: AMC


     Well friends,

     I think it's about time I should unsubscribe this news group due to the
contents of the posting lately.  None of them contained any information 
relating to the subject of UFO.  There are too many irrelevant comments, jokes,
remarks, etc.  I know, I know!  You're saying "so what?  don't read them then".
Well, this is what I'm going to do.  (sign!!!!!!)  If you want to post jokes 
or smart comments, why don't you do that on another news group?  Anyway, so
long, friends.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: UFO Humor Part 2.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 17:44:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: UFO Humor. Part 2.
  Several weeks later I arrived at Unarius headquarters in 
El Cajon, California, and was interrogated by Uriel's 
lieutenant, (now remember this person who is going to 
be described is none other than Lucifer himself. JW), a 
pale, round-faced, balding man with woebegone blue eyes. 
He had originally been named Vaughn Spaegel, but since
a "past life reading" had revealed that he had once been
Charlemagne, he would now answer only to Charles. 
Satisfied  about my identity and my intentions, he phoned
Uriel. She agreed to come over shortly to meet me.
  In preparation for Uriel's arrival, the group members 
spruced themselves up and lined up from the street curb
to the front door. Suddenly, and electric blue 73 Cadillac
with a glowing plexiglass-and-Mylar saucer on its roof
wheels around the corner onto South Magnolia. Out steps 
Uriel, with rhinesone flecks on her eyelids, hair the color
of orange sherbet, and a flowing purple chiffon gown. 
Students  kiss her hand and bestow faintly acknowledged 
greetings. Her eyes  cruise over the small crowd, and she
makes a grand gesture with the folds of her gown, asking,
with just a hint of annoyance in her voice, "Where do you 
want me to stand?"
  Displayed at the Unarius headquarters is a large fold-out 
tableau of color photographs depicting  the twenty-six past
Earth lives of Uriel. Ruth  Norman is portrayed in full period
costume as Confucius, Socrates, Henry VIII, and even
Benjamin Franklin. She is also said to have lived among the 
higher-consciousness peoples of the thirty-two worlds of 
the Intergalactic Confederation, planets such as Vidis, Janus,
and Vulna. Hundreds of thousands of years ago, the battling
factions of the civil war that wracked the Orion Nebula 
successfully resolved themselves into the Confederation. 
Through the many lives these people have had, and the the 
saving graces of such higher beings as Uriel, they have 
since attained a higher state, free of war, poverty, mental 
illness, disease, pollution, and energy problems.  The only
way for Earthlings to reach such an elevated level is to 
follow Unaaariun teachings and to gradually counter accum-
ulated past negations through awareness of them. The pro-
cess may take many lifetimes, but one will eventally be 
capable of helping others, as Uriel does now. 
So there you have it folks  (JW). Is that funny or not? The 
strange thing about it is that some of it true.
Part 2.
John Winston.
From: bruce@uxb.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Tunnels #1.
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:44:02 GMT
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

>>>>> On 13 Dec 92 14:52:36 GMT, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com said:

> Subject: Tunnels. 
> [...]
>   Wesley Blume has led a team through the tunnel this summer. 
> It's about 90 feet wide and 60 feet high, with walls  as smooth
> as glass yet pliable as rubber. 
>   The walls radiate a greenish yellow light with not appaarent 
> power source.
>   The air remains breathable and the pressure is constant even 
> five miles below the surface. 
>   The walls radiate a greenish yellow light with no apparent 
> power source.
> [...]
>   So there you have it folks. Is it true? Is it false? Is it food for 
> thought? 

Odd it wasn't reported in the papers.

> Source of Information:Secember 15, 1992-Sun-23
What on earth is this?

--
Bruce              CMSR, University of Liverpool
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From: ed_eck@milkwy.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Lay (sp?) lines
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:12:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec10.083749.5742@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes...
>I've been told by several people that a number of Lay (sp?) lines are
>supposed to converge in Worcester MA (USA). Where are the lines supposed
>to be? Do any go through central MA or is it just wishful thinking :-)
>-- 
>------          Join the Pythagorean Reform Church!               .
>\    /        Repent of your evil irrational numbers             . .
> \  /   and bean eating ways. Accept 10 into your heart!        . . .
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Probably go through the corner of Piedmont and Chandler.


Used to be you could get layed there for $10.00 on a Sunday afternoon.


Or maybe above Leitrim's Pub...



Ed E.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 06:30:36 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Folks: It has just started to rain again here in sunny northern
Calif. and I now must go to work.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Letter
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:39:26 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I'm just gonna sit right down and write myself a letter
and make believe it came from you except I'm going to send it to the 
person who said something was going to fall in China. I'll let you
know how it came out if I and California are still here.
John Winston.
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