HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: exumfox@exu.ericsson.se (Mike Fox)
Subject: swap meet
Reply-To: exumfox@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:38:51 GMT

The 'scroungers guide...' mentions swap meets as a possible source
for obtaining equipment. If someone out there happens to run across
any ads describing such events, a posting would be appreciated.

Xref: sparky rec.video.satellite:3904 rec.arts.tv:15669 rec.video:9833 rec.video.production:1208 comp.compression:2887
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.arts.tv,rec.video,rec.video.production,comp.compression
Subject: Re: NBC Artifacts: it's not compression!
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:09:28 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul29.191352.740@twg.com> edward@twg.com (Edward C. Bennett) writes:
<In article <3718@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<>
<>	[ much technical stuff deleted ]
<
<As much as I like reading the technical stuff, I'm not a video techie
<and I don't speak the language.
<
<Can you give us a plain-English explanation of why we're see a strobing
<effect on fast motion?

My best guess is that the mathematical formula used on the video fields
(previous, current, next) to determine moving objects and construct a smooth
flowing video output is flawed.  This flaw produces an image that is a
distortion of what it should really be.

The video output needs to be seriously analyzed by the manufacturers so that
they can tune up their formulas.
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      harvard\     att!nicmad\          spool.cs.wisc.edu!astroatc!vidiot!brown
Vidiot  ucbvax!uwvax..........!astroatc!vidiot!brown
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                                   brown@wi.extrel.com
From: mgm@clipper.ingr.com (Mike Marfell)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: $99yr HBO & Cinemax
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:29:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA


    I found this ad in OnSat, HBO & Cinemax for $99.95 per year.
This is half the price i've been paying! Here's the info.....


                      Programming Center
                        1-800-432-8876

               Let them know it's the test ad.

                          "Test ad#1"



                                            Enjoy!,

                                                 -Mike
-- 

Mike Marfell                                      mgm@clipper.ingr.com
From: cmylod@nl.oracle.com (Colum Mylod)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Astra stuff
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:13:03 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe

In article <9207240733.AA05267@client47.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Alan.Crowder@prg.oxford.ac.uk writes:
|> Has anyone heard of a dutch naughty channel transmitting from this weekend
|> on astra somwhere

The naughty channel is Red Hot Dutch but will be on the "TRT-Int Avrasya"
transponder (is it Eutelsat F2? My lists aren't near me). This transponder is
leased by the Dutch PTT to TRT in the evenings but obviously anyone can
book it at other times. An article I read promised only 5-10 mins of
trailers per night before Red Hot Dutch scrambles - no info on what type
of scrambler system. It's scheduled to begin 01.00 MET Sunday morning
(Sat. night 23.00 UTC) this weekend. So for Astra you'll have only the
Adult Channel, plus the usual intellectual fare from the commercial German
stations...
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:54:50 BST
From:         iinqp@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Satellite Addresses
X-To:         homesat@vm1.nodak.edu

Many thanks, Wolfgang
I am overwhelmed.

   I will start contacting the encrypted channel providers in the EEC and
post the results to this forum.

Howard
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: Stuart A Kingsley <skingsle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Second Call For Papers - International Optical SETI Symposium
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:41:03 GMT


For those who are interested, yesterday I posted to sci.space and sci.astro
a second call for papers for January's SPIE Free-Space Laser Communications
V Symposium on Optical SETI.  Arthur C. Clarke and Professor Charles Townes
have agreed to be speakers.

If you want to know what NASA and COMSAT is doing for future GEO to GEO and
GEO to LEO laser communications, this conference is the one to attend.

Stuart
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: More about Kanal 6
Organization: eng
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:36:13 GMT

On FIDO the following was posted:


Date: 17 Jul 92 22:56:00
From: David Thorpe
  To: Howard Sucher
Subj: Re: Kanal 6 on Intelsat
____________________________________________________________________________

Greetings Howard..

 Allow me to quote the letter you mailed on 14-Jul-92

 DT>> The channel is a Turkish language channel made up of the son of the
 DT>> President of Turkey and other ex backers of Star 1. Star 1 broke up a
 DT>> couple of months ago and was renamed Interstar.

 HS> So when should we start to see some programs on it?

Good question!. I don't know the answer to that. The situation regarding all
Turkish channels - and all proposed Turkish channels is difficult to
establish. This particular channel was expected to launch on Eutelsat II F3
via BT capacity so it was a suprise when it turned up on Intelsat.

The company - as far as I can establish - is made up of the son of the
president of Turkey and a Turkish Bank. The son was part of the Star 1
consortium but was efectively ousted by the other partners when they handed
back their broadcasting licence and took out a new one in the name of
Interstar. To complicat matters, a Star 1 test card also appeared on Eutelsat
II F3 quickly moving onto Intelsat 601 at 27.5 degrees West.

If I find any other info I will let you know.

Regards Dave


Jurgen


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Jurgen Bartels,   Motorola,  Taunusstein near Wiesbaden  Germany

juergenb@tau_mail.comm.mot.com 
juergenb@zwg01dns0.comm.mot.com   

Jurgen_Bartels@p11.f29.n249.z2.fidonet.org   <---- if above don't work, use this

FIDO: Jurgen Bartels  2:249/29.11
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:45:44 EDT
From:         "Howard F. Speight Jr." <ACHS@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: (no subject given)
X-To:         Alan Larson <larson@net.com>,
              "HOMESAT - Home Satellite Technology" <HOMESAT@NDSUVM1.BITNET>

Those are the archived logs of all the mail posted to homesat. I mistakenly
sent the request(s) to the list instead of listserv. My apologies. I realized
what I had done right after pressing the send key and sent a follow up note.
My "GOD" like status was revoked and I was reassigned the "HUMAN" tag. Still
make mistakes! You may retrieve a list of the available files by sending mail
to listserv@ndsuvm , no subject, and a message of INDEX HOMESAT . It can also
be done interactively if you have that capability at your node. I use:
tell listserv at ndsuvm index homesat  Where tell is the interactive message
facility on our mainframe. I use this quite often rather than posting the same
message over and over again to the list.

Howard F. Speight Jr.  Mainframe Consultant, PROFS/Usercode Administrator
East Carolina University, Computing & Information Systems
Austin 124 Greenville, North Carolina 27858    (919)757-6401
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:33:06 -0400
From:         Ron Gomes <rrg@PROLOGIC.COM>
Subject:      vanity uplink on Panamsat

Gary Hughes (hughes@gary.enet.dec.com) writes:

	Are you sure that it wasn't a 'talking head' for a news
	organization passing the time of day while waiting for the
	other end to take her news item?

It's possible--the audio was very bad so it was hard to be sure what
was going on--but from what I could hear I didn't think so.  The
purpose of the uplink seemed to be the phone call.  And when the call
was finished and she hung up, applause and cheers could be heard from
other people in the room, she smiled shyly, someone came into camera
view to unclip her microphone, and the link went down.
From: dlh@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (David L. Hershberger)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: NBC Artifacts: it's not compression!
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:50:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
Originator: dlh@gvgdsd

It's not compression that's causing the artifacts on NBC - it is, as
several in this newsgroup have speculated, due to the standards
conversion. All of the origination and production is being done in 625
line 50 Hz video. NBC is using two very good standards converters, and
the artifacts produced are much more subtle than your run of the mill
PAL to NTSC conversion.

Dave Hershberger
Senior Staff Engineer
The Grass Valley Group, Inc. (a supplier of video equipment to NBC)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:11:22 BST
From:         iinqp@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Red Hot Dutch
X-To:         homesat@vm1.nodak.edu

Apologies, I think Colum Mylod is correct. RHD will be on the TRT-int
transponder which is 11.181 horizontal on Eutelsat II F1 (13 degrees east).
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: aaronb@suhana.analog.ingr.com (Aaron B.)
Subject: WANTED:  Dead VCR
Keywords: Broken VCR
Reply-To: aaronb@suhana.analog.ingr.com
Organization: Home Office Enterprise
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:32:30 GMT

Hi Netters:

I need a VHF tuner for my project.  Someone suggested me salvaging it
from a broken VCR.  Anybody that have such a thing or know of how to
get them please respond by e-mail.  Any other suggestions are welcome too.

Thanks in advanced.

Aaron B
aaronb@suhana.analog.ingr.com
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Satellite, what's involved?
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:05:01 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

urban@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Art Urban (PROFS)) writes:

> I recently started reading this group, as I have become discontent with
> the local TCI CableVision. Unfortunately, there was no FAQ poster here, or
> I missed it. Could somebody e-mail me a copy?
> 
> Just in case the FAQ does not answer my current questions, I will post them
> here, but do not feel obligated to answer anything which the FAQ will.


You may obtain a copy of the FAQ list from my archive server by
sending in the body of a mail message:

get tvrofaq.txt

or if you want a zipped version, send:

get tvrofaq.zip

and send it to any of the following domainized addresses:

mail-server@ijpc.UUCP
ijpc!mail-server@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US
mail-server%ijpc.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (not certain if I typed
it in correctly)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:30:58 GMT

kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman) writes:

>We bought the triplecast because my daughter is a horse-person, and they
>promised 35+ hours of horse events.  So far they have preempted or slipped
>every one in favor of things like gymnastics, which they show on free TV
>anyway.  Calling NBC in New York gets me the information that "NBC has
>nothing to do with the triplecast".  No one can or will give us corrected
>schedule information.

I got my own question answered... NBC is not doing the triplecast.
NBC-Cable (some joint venture thing) is doing the triplecast.  I did call
and complain, though, that I paid my $125 to see stuff that was NOT going
to be on free-TV, not to have the same stuff (mostly gymnastics) preempt
the events that are not shown on free-TV.
-- 
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)

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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:00:43 -0400
From:         Ron Gomes <rrg@PROLOGIC.COM>
Subject:      vanity uplink on Panamsat

Saw a curious thing this morning on Ku-band on Panamsat (at 45 West).
A young woman (American, judging from her accent) was speaking on the
telephone to someone.  That was all.  Close-up shot of her face and the
telephone, audio of her voice and her half of the conversation.  It
lasted for at least ten minutes (don't know how long it was going on
before I saw it).  I had a hard time getting a watchable picture (the
signal was weak and inconsistent), and the audio was barely
intelligible.  But the impression I got was that someone had bought
transponder time to speak to someone else overseas.  It wasn't clear
from the conversation whether the woman was in Europe or North America,
but I suppose the fact that I was seeing it at all meant that the
signal was being beamed to North America, so she must have been in
Europe (right?).

I've heard about such "vanity" transmissions before, for weddings and
family gatherings, but only on domestic satellites, never
internationally.  And I've never seen one before.  It's when I stumble
on oddities like this that I have the most fun with my TVRO system.  No
one (except people like the fellow travellers on this list) understands
this.

				Ron Gomes
				rrg@prologic.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: gaf@anasazi.com (Guy Finney)
Subject: Any word on NFL scrambling for 92-93??
Originator: gaf@misty
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:58:51 GMT


Well, football season (no, I mean the real one) is just around the corner.
Has anyone heard whether the NFL plans to scramble backhauls this year?
Every year they threaten it, and so far nothing has happened.
-- 
Guy Finney                                   "Ah, this is obviously some
Anasazi, Phoenix AZ                          new usage of the word 'safe'
gaf@anasazi.com  -or-                        I was previously unaware of".
...!asuvax!anasaz!gaf                            --- Arthur Dent
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:54:53 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      PAS1
X-To:         mstevani@ula.unil.ch

Mauro:

I am checking PAS1 45 W every day. I have NEVER seen direct feeds
from Brazil on any transponder beamed to Europe. If it ever happens,
it must be so rare that it is not worth to built a system especially
for that purpose.

Wolfgang

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***Phone: +49 40 5521878***Fax: +49 40 5513219***MCI Mail: 241-2526******
***Internet:wrs@mcshh.hanse.de**Bang:..unido!mcshh!wrs**wrs@mcshh.UUCP***
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:48:46 EDT
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: two-line orbital
X-To:         homesat@vm1.nodak.edu

>
> Please excuse my ignorance but what is a two-line orbital element? I
> have a satellite dish that recieves stations like PBS and Home shoppers
> network and other video type signals can I make use of these orbital
> elements. Did I miss out on the .FAQ file for this group?
>
The two line elements are used to calculate, usually with the help of
a suitable computer program like Traksat, etc, etc,  the position of
a satellite.  For most of the tvro sats, this is not of much use
since the are stationary, but several of the sats, such SBS-2 and a few others
are in inclined orbits.  Inclined orbits means that they drift north and
south of the equator each day in a path roughly like a skinny figure 8.
This means that unless you have a mount with a capability of moving your
dish up and down, in addition to back and forth, that you can only pick
these sats up for about an hour, twice each day when they cross the equator.
Unless you can calculate the positions via the TLE's, you won't know when
the best times to view these sats will be.
From: larson@loren.net.com (Alan Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Ku band vs C band LNB ratings
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:32:48 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies

In article <1992Jul29.193649.23600@exu.ericsson.se> exumfox@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>I don't know if there is a formula for converting DBs to 
>degrees.

  Yes, there is.  Here it is:

	NT  =  290 * ( 10^(nf/10) - 1 )

in reverse,

	nf  =  log( NT/290 + 1 ) * 10

where:
	NT  is noise temperature in degrees (Kelvin).
	nf  is noise figure in dB.
	NF  is noise factor, which is dimensionless.
	log is the common (base 10) logarithm.

  The noise factor (NF), is simply the NT/290+1.

	Alan
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re:      Re: Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:11:19 GMT


As has been pointed out, the origination and onsite postproduction are taking
place in digitized PAL (I guess that should be digitised PAL). They are using a
lot of Panasonic's D-3 format digital VCRs.

They have five video links out of Barcelona to the US, 3 for the PPV and two
for broadcast and other uses. NTSC conversion takes place prior to uplink (as
Mr Video pointed out they are the same units used earlier by CBS).

They are also running some specially modified VCRs for slo-mo, recording at a
higher frame rate to allow cleaner slomo playback on regular systems (I guess
that these are also some variant of D-3, but I'm not certain).

Any of these steps could be introducing artifacts. It is quite possible that
the standards converters are the result of years of optiomising for analog
PAL/NTSC and may not be dealing gracefully with any artifacts introduced by
D-3.

I don't think NBC are using any HDTV gear, but I'm certain that NHK and some of
the European broadcasters will be. Isn't there an HD-MAC feed from the
Olympics?

gary
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:40:08 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      List of Europe's satellites. New plan.

Many of you may remember that I used to post a monthly list of
Ku-satellites and their programs as they can be watched in
Europe.

I have found, that the recently founded, Munich based
"Satelliten Beobachter Club SBC" (Satellite Watcher Club)
publishes a very good, much more accurate and complete, and
almost daily updated list, which I have permission for posting
to HOMESAT.

I wish to note though, that the SBC (free membership!) receives
funds for their operation from the publisher of Telesatellit
Magazine and provides a PC hotline (+49-89-418608-95) for
downloading the list (SBC.EXE), and fax polling (same phone
number, but last two digits 99 for part 1 and 49 for part 2),
plus through the free data service VIDEODAT on TV program PRO7
(ASTRA).

Although this sounds somewhat commercial, I do not hesitate to
bring it to HOMESAT reader's attention, because the list is
really good and useful and free. If anybody has second thought
about a regular posting of this list, please let's discuss them.

I don't think it would be a good idea to post it in plain ASCII,
because it is app. 120K long. I'ld rather send it ZIPped and
UUENCODED, so it comes down to some 30K.

Wolfgang


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From: witham@janus.trl.oz (Ric Witham)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Information required on decoders
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:58:03 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories


Greetings. 

	I am trying to find out some information about how satellite and
cable really works in the home.  I presume that there are people out there
who have satellite and cable and antenna all coming in and bringing
all sorts of wonderful (?) entertainment.
	The question I have is how do you distribute this stuff around
the home.  Do you have separate receivers and decoders at each TV set or
is it possible to buy receivers/decoders which can then remodulate the
signal back onto internal cabling so that multiple TV sets can hang off
one receiver/decoder?
	If these questions cause any sort of humour to you forgive me.
 We downunder only have access (at the moment) to off air TV channels.

	It would also be of interest to get an idea of the price of receivers
and decoders.  
for example:
	VideocipherII
	VideocipherII+
	Eurocrypt
	Videocrypt
	DMAC
	D2MAC
	Plain vanilla (ie no decoder just a receiver)
	DirecTv (if one exists yet)

my email address is :  r.witham@trl.oz.au

Please respond to me directly and not via the newsgroup.

In order to avoid overwhelming me with responses I would appreciate it if
only people directly involved in the industry could respond.

thanks in advance            

Ric Witham                 

Principle Technical Officer
Optical Networks Section                     	770 Blackburn Rd
Telecom Research Laboratories               	Clayton, Victoria, 3168
email : r.witham@trl.oz.au	               	Australia
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: novice questions on GI VCRS
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:44:36 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	I own a VC II+.  Do I have to upgrade ?  If I don't, does it mean 
I won't be able to receive my subscription channels until I upgrade ?  
When is the switching to GI VCRS begin to take effect ?

Jack Teh
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:47:50 EDT
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Olympic channels
X-To:         "HOMESAT - Home Satellite Technology" <HOMESAT@vm1.nodak.edu>

>
> I found the following during the Olympic opening ceremonies:
>
> 	W4-09  Raw feed with stadium sounds only. Great Picture!
> 	A1-14  Canadian network (French). Great Picture. Commercials.
> 	       Announcers talk too much.
> 	M2-14  Mexican network (Mexican). Static. No commercials.
> 	       Announcers talk a little less than above.
>
> Needless to say, the W4-09 feed is prefered unless you understand French
> or Mexican.
>
I too watched the W4-09 (G6) feed, and had hopes that it would have coverage
of the events too, so I looked there on Sunday, but found it to be
scrambled (I could see images of sporting events before the picture popped
out).  It seemed to be VCII scrambling, but it made my picture pop and
crackle (sorry for the strange description, but when the screen would
flash you would hear crackling noises) in a strange way.  I've never seen
any scrambling system affect my receiver this way.  It was almost like it
was not VCII, but my receiver would alternate between thinking it was and
then thinking it wasn't making it pop in and out.  The screen remained in the
blacked out VCII mode though, except for the flickering/crackling.  Did
anyone else observe this, or was my system just acting strange (I have
been suffering from some other lightening related problems, so it may
be a problem with my system).  My system was working ok on other VCII
channels, including the triple-cast channels (I'm ashamed to say that
my wife talked me into subscribing to this so that we wouldn't have to
watch basketball.).  Also, there was an interesting observation about
the triplecast, in that mid morning (EDT) on Sunday, the picture went out,
as if I were not subscribed, but I could bring it back in for several
minutes by switching to another channel, and coming back to it.  It did
this for nearly 1/2 hour, which was very annoying, until it got back to
normal and stayed on permanently.  I would ask if anyone else observed
this, but probably no one else was crazy enough to subscribe.
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