HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Moving discussion of life in Japan to fj
Date: 15 Aug 92 13:13:10 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

kenji@macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:

>In article <TOZAKI.92Aug14221743@amber.math.keio.ac.jp>
>	tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) writes:
>>In article <GyFcJ.430@reseau.macrofield.or.jp> kenji@reseau.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
>> |                                    And most of Japanese Internet domains 
>> |only subscribe fj due to the language barrier.
>>
>>  Most of? If you have any statistical information, please show it to
>>us (also in fj.news.groups).

>What do you think about it? Let us know.

>I have no statistics - but I have seen very few postings from 
>Japan at least on following newsgroups:
>
>soc.couples, alt.romance, comp.os.coherent, comp.mail.uucp, comp.mail.misc.
>
>I know silent Japanese readers exist on non-Japanese-spoken 
>newsgroups - but what I want to insist is that little portion of 
>them do POSTING to non-Japanese-spoken newsgroups.

Just for fun, I whipped up some statistics. Accoriding to the
history files on Aegis:

all posts from .jp sites           : 2407 
posts to fj.xxx from .jp sites     : 2128 
posts to non-fj.xxxx from .jp sites:  279 

However, this may well be misleading as 1) while Aegis gets all the
fj. groups, it only gets about 300 non-fj, 2) Aegis uses a
differential expire and expires newgroups people are subscribed to
in 14 days, the rest 4 days.  But if somebody would like to run the
stats on their machine, I've attached the script I used. 

>BTW I do not subscribe fj.news.group - I've got sick and tired 
>with destructive and unconstructive discussion being held there. 
>And I'm not interested at all in policy-making procedures on the 
>fj hierarchy.

That's another story <sigh> ... Fortunately, it's all in Japanese
and I can't understand it :-)

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087

---- getjp ---------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
#
# run this in /usr/lib/history.d (Bnews)

# get posts from all *.jp sites

echo "getting all '.jp>' from history file -> jp1"
# grep '\.jp>' ? >jp1

# but don't count the local aegis.xxxx newsgroups

echo "getting all non-aegis.xxxx newsgroups from jp1 -> jp2"
awk '{  if ( substr($3,1,5) == "aegis" ) 
		next 
	else
		print
'} jp1 >jp2

# now get newsgroups that start with fj.

echo "getting all fj.xxxx from jp2 -> jp3"
awk '{  if ( substr($3,1,3) != "fj." ) 
		next 
	else
		print
'} jp2 >jp3

# and now get the newsgroups that don't start with fj.

echo "getting all non-fj.xxxx from jp2 -> jp4"
awk '{  if ( substr($3,1,3) == "fj." ) 
		next 
	else
		print
'} jp2 >jp4

echo "all posts from .jp sites           : `wc -l jp2 | cut -c1-8`"
echo "posts to fj.xxx from .jp sites     : `wc -l jp3 | cut -c1-8`"
echo "posts to non-fj.xxxx from .jp sites: `wc -l jp4 | cut -c1-8`"
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:36:14 GMT

In article <36976@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes:
>>For me, a war-hate person, many 
>>Chineses and Koreans still hate Japanese, for the simple reason that
>>the lies are continuing floating in Japanese history books.
>
>Well, lies exist in history books of just about every country.  Would
>you hate them as much if the lies were about someone else?
>
>It is ok to hate the history books, but if you hate the people, you
>may find yourself being a contributing factor in the next war.
>Frustration and anger are understandable, but don't let these turn
>into hate.

If this "you" means me, I see no point in responsing to your questioning.
I simply stated the fact that many chinese and korean people hate japanese,
since they see no honesty from its official levels. Personaly, I won't
hate Japanese as a whole, after I already met some understandable japaneses.

BTW, it is extremely funny to hate books instead of those authors and alike 
who provok hatred.
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Have some cash
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:28:24 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

In article 1@cs.cmu.edu, jfriedl+@cs.cmu.edu (Jeffrey E. F. Friedl) writes:
>cb522@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cathy Atwood) writes:
>|> Awhile ago someone said that it is cheaper to take $ traveller's
>|> checks and convert when in Japan.  This may be so, but I have a
>|> different perspective.  I go for short visits, and need to know
>|> what my budget is.  Since the dollar/yen conversion can be
>|> volatile, I prefer to get yen cash and t.c. before leaving the
>|> United States, and know what I'll have available to spend.
>Certainly convenience is an issue, but make sure you know exactly
>just how much you're paying for it.
>I just called up the foreign exchange "store" (what's it called?) at
>the local airport and found their buy/sell split was 18 yen, plus a
>one percent "service charge" (which is about the most ridiculous thing
>I've heard of... they could just include the charge in the rate, but
>want to make their rates look better and the spring the service charge
>on you later).
>Their current sell rate was 117 yen/$. $1,000 would then get you
>115,841 yen.
>The equivilant exchange rate in Japan (if you have dollar traveler's checks,
>which you can get free at AAA) would be to give 124 yen/$ [calculation
>given below], with no extra fee.  $1,000 would then give 124,000 yen which
>is a difference of about 7% (!)

I've experienced the same type of spreads here in the US.  It just seems
criminal that they can charge this type of vigorish but they do.

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From: jwd@briones.ced.berkeley.edu (John Wilbrand Dahlgren)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Choose a present!
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:48:58 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: briones.ced.berkeley.edu

n article 21862@fzi.de, schreib@fzi.de (Hardy) writes:
>I shall travel to Japan this year in october and will also visit my penpal.
>As I've read, Japanese people usually offer presents when they visit each
>other. Some years ago I also got a present from a Japanese who visited me.
>Therefore here's my question:
>Which present would YOU (JAPANESE WOMEN) like to get from a German tourist?
>(leather trousers, Solingen knifes, beer, ...???)

My wife tells me that knives are not generally an appropriate
gift (for weddings especially), but you should know what sort
of things your penpal values. My mother-in-law received an
apron as a gift about twenty years ago. She is still talking
about it. DON'T buy an apron!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:6885 soc.culture.china:23272 soc.culture.korean:3668
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:35:52 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Distribution: soc
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <SMITTIE.92Aug18160456@beach.csulb.edu>, 
smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

=> Bill, you gotta give me at least a little credit for trying.

I'll give you a helluvalot of credit for trying. Please keep at it.

=> I figured I was blowin' in the wind when I posted.

Me too. I just wanted to tell deafs ears that pleas for reason
would fall on deaf ears.

But hey.... me thinks I sees a glimmer of rational dialogue
starting to appear from amongst the emotional chaos. Shall
we wait a little and see if the wind blows your way?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jly33321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John L.Yoon )
Subject: Re: Japanese Things
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:43:43 GMT

doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:

>The keyword is BOTTLE here.  Beer is cheapest in bottles.
>You can buy the large 2 liter or 3 liter cans of beer,
>but they cost more than buying a lot of bottles.
>Also it's sometimes cheaper to buy 6 individual cans of beer
>than a 6-pack with a fancy label.
>(They charge extra for the fancy "gift" label.)

sort of funny how the prices change on items imported to the US.  I recently
picked up a few 2 liter cans of Asahi Super Dry and the price was about $0.30
less than the same stuff in 6-packs.  (but still pretty expensive: $5.99
for the 2 liter cans...)

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From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:41:28 GMT
	<1992Aug18.130905.1703@merlin.hgc.edu>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

The fear of a rearmed, militant nationalistic Japan is often given as a reason
for demanding an acknowledgement and apology from Japan. Since this news group
is frequently subjected to a continuance of this issue (usually as a result of
crossposting) I think that the news group as a whole should have the
opportunity to examine the foundations of such fears. To this end I would
request that the article be posted here to the group as a whole. That allows
all of us to examine it and discuss it. If the persons theories and accusations
are based on truth, the article will bear up under the scrutiny. I for one am
very ready to move what has so far been an overly emotional and largely
irrational discussion in the direction of discussing discernible facts and the
ramification of those facts.

What do the other netters out there think??

smittie

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:45:58 GMT

In article <SMITTIE.92Aug20225222@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>>Compare to the Atorcity of Nagking, no bad deeds can compare with it!
>
>I understand the above sentence to be saying, "nothing can compare to the
>atrocity of Nanking."
>
>That is a value judgement and most of the people of the world would not agree
>with you. There have been many tragic events in this world. Each people group
>holds the tragedy that happened to their group as the most tragic. That does
In the context of comparing the "crimes" you listed!
>not mean it is.
>
>smittie
>-- 
>___________________________________________________________________________
>GEnie, MCI, AOL:Smittie | If all of us were as smart as we think we are the
>smittie@beach.csulb.edu |  current world problems would be yesterday's news.
>________________________|___________________________________________________


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Galen Tatsuo Komatsu)
Subject: Re: Karuna Shinsho
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:26:17 GMT

In article <4828@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> sdbst5@gl.pitt.edu (Stephen D Brener) writes:
>Also, someone asked about Karuna Shinsho.  I can't say much outside of 
>saying that she was a pretty lackluster announcer who I believe had to 
>go to Japan to get such work.  I also think that she doesn't speak any 
>Japanese.  I came to that conclusion based on the way she pronounces
>the few Japanese words that she has ever uttered, and the pronounciation
>has been as awkward as mine.  Perhaps in the intervening years she picked
>up a 'yoroshiku onegaishimasu' or 'toire wa doko desu ka' and a few 
>other such phrases.  However, if anyone wanted to start a Karuna Shinsho
>fan club, I would be glad to join %>.

	If I recall correctly, Karuna was born & raised in Hawaii, daughter
of parents of notable note (but of what, I don't remember.)  She got the
job announcing for Today's Japan while she was studying at Sophia(sp?)
University (studying what?  that I don't recall either...)
	Most of this information I can find in a few magazines packed away
in some boxes.  ..but don't ask me to pull out those boxes, as they've
become part of the structural integrity of my closet... =^)

	As far as her general pronounciation and knowledge of Japanese...
I don't know if she knows Japanese fluently or not, so I won't comment
on that.  Concerning her pronounciation, I don't really think it's from
having a "Western" tongue.  Rather as a news announcer she is following
certain "guidelines" to pronounciation of words and names.  Same goes with
the other reporters on the show.  Notice Michiyo Ishida (and other names
which slip my mind) who appears to be a "nihonjin" (Karuna being "nikkei")
also speaks with a "weird tongue".  I bet even Tom Borkaw and other Western
news anchors could say those Japanese names like a native if they didn't
have to speak "by the book."

ps... anyone remember watching Today's Japan when it first aired (before
Karuna began "using" makeup and fixing her hair =^)  Am I thinking of
someone else, or did Karuna speed through those Japanese words & names
whenever they came up?  =^)


>How about the Karuna Shinsho Show?
>Or Getting to Know Shinsho?
	...and the promo would say "There's no show like Shinsho's" =^)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: Japanese Mail Order CD's
Summary: Info Wanted
Keywords: CD Japan
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:50:23 GMT

Greetings from Australia,

Can someone from Japan suggest or provide information on any companies
that conduct a mail order service for CD's (current alternative, dance,
techno, independant material) produced in Japan.

Sometimes an excellent boxed-set or limited edition will come be released
in Japan and is extremely hard to obtain here in Oz.

Any information or contacts are greatly appreciated (send to me personally).

many thanks

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: trieu@me.utoronto.ca (Trieu C. Chau)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:34:17 GMT

smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

>I understand the above sentence to be saying, "nothing can compare to the
>atrocity of Nanking."

>That is a value judgement and most of the people of the world would not agree
>with you. There have been many tragic events in this world. Each people group
>holds the tragedy that happened to their group as the most tragic. That does
>not mean it is.

Just as many Jews consider the Holocaust the most tragic even in their culture,
many Chinese consider the Nanking incident (no single catch-word here) to
be respectively theirs.  And if an entire group of people agree on this one
subjective opinion, I'd say that event was pretty tragic, irregardless of
which group you yourself belong in.  It's pretty silly to talk about
absolutes in this context though.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: Have some cash; Was: Re: Osaka Airport directions
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 18:01:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.222201.2021@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> asano@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ASANO Yoshiteru) writes:
>Accepted no credit card?  Sounds very odd to me.  Today, almost any type of 
>business accepts visa or mastercard in Japan...  Was it really a 'business
>hotel'?  Wasn't it a 'love hotel'??
>Well, maybe your card wasn't international ...
>Anyway, I just felt odd, that's all...
>   y.a.
>
While your suggestion might seem rather humorous, I can
assure you that Hotel Sun Royal in Kawasaki is listed as 
a member of Japan Business Hotel Association (or something 
like this, I don't have this info at home) on a list
obtained from the Japan Travel Bureau in Manhattan. And
my card was Corporate AmEx (don't leave home without it?)

In all honesty, this was the only business hotel I
checked in that would do that to me :-(

Tony
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Godzilla vs Charles Barkely
Keywords: a tv commercial
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:48:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <Bsy04r.2rz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wkg0258@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wakako  Kusumoto) writes:

[stuff deleted]
>
>
>I saw the commercial and noticed that Godzilla was referred as "he".
>I always thought Godzilla was female.  She is a mother of one child, isn't
>she?

	This is the question I have had.  When I was a kid, I had a pictograph
	of the Godzilla (or Gojira :)).  There was a picture of him/her holding
	*two* eggs in his/her hands and saying "_WASHI_ no tamago da zo^."
	But anyway, does anybody know the answer?  And where IS his/her spouse?
	Otherwise MINIRA (this MUST be HE judging from the title of the movie
	"nankai no daikessen: Gojira no musuko") would not have been born, would
	he?

						Tetsuya Nishimura
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ren@renews.relcom.msk.su (Shliemin Vladimir)
Subject: Russian journalist to look for contacts from Japan
Reply-To: ren@renews.relcom.msk.su
Organization: Joint-Stock Company RELCOM
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:19:40 +0300

Hello!

        I would like to make some penpals from Japan.
 About myself: I visited to Tokyo in May 1991.
And I talk about this sity and all Japan with admiration only!
So far I dream to come in Tokyo once again.
I am a 37 year old journalist. I'm editor of first in
Russia original network magazin ReNews, I'm head of Technical
policy department of scientific newspaper POISK /Search/.
I living in the Moscow, Russia.
       I look for contacts in Tokyo and Japan with journalists and
information agency or firms. And with all people, who are interested
of Russia.
 I will give more details If I hear from some one.

Thanks
Vladimir Shliemin
ren@renews.msk.su


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wohfuchi@splash.Princeton.EDU (Wataru Ohfuchi)
Subject: Publicity of WWII in Japan (was Re: An open letter...
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:33:21 GMT

In article <2419@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>
>What hasn't been publicized is what the Japanese Imperial Army did
>to the civilians in Japan, or within the army what the officers did
>to enlisted me. I only know what people tell me and have never seen
>any written source...
>
  I thought military police stories are also relatively well publicized.
Is there anybody who would contribute a reference list? I myself will
try to find books about the MP. (Please do not expect I'll do it soon,
however!)
  The MP, news censorship, etc. There are many things we should know what
happened in Japan as well as in China, Korea and other countries
during WWII. I think it is impossible to learn everything at school.
  Education is not done only at schools although I do think more about
WWII should be taught at schools in Japan. WWII is publicized in Japan
from the Nanjing Massacre to the 721(? don't remember the number)
battalion, to comfort girls, to the Korean gold-medal marathon runner,
if I can't include the MP. A little effort to read books or to watch
TV programs would teach you. A little encouragement will make younger
generations to learn. As a Japanese who feels kind of helpless among
this flaming war on the net, I promise to make the effort and give the
encouragement.
...Wataru
-- 
  ...Wataru Ohfuchi
     Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, Princeton University
     w1o@gfdl.gov _or_ wohfuchi@splash.princeton.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:6931 soc.culture.china:23360 soc.culture.korean:3710
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:13:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Aug16.180705.12825@news.nd.edu> ylu@bach.helios.nd.edu writes:
>In article <Aug16.162535.34168@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug16.140030.10294@news.nd.edu> ylu@bach.helios.nd.edu writes:
>>
>>[stuff deleted]
>>> 
>>>If a large number of japs think in this way it is dangerous! For our chinese,
>>>the question of how the japs was "tricked" to the war is another subject.
>>>We can not mix these issues. The fact is millions of chinese civilian people
>>>were killed, Buried in LIVE and killed in LIVE for medical testing by JAPs
>>>on chinese land. Who can say this is not japs responsibility! no matter what
>>>is the reason for their invading! 
>>> 
>>	I apologize if I have been too picky, but I personally think that we
>>	should use appropriate and respectful words and expressions as long as
>>
> 
>seem like you people do not feel confortable when others using "unrespectable"
>words. But can you feel how the others think? The japaness invaded our country
>and killed millions of civilian people. Now, they even refuse to say apology
>symbolically. Is this behaviou respect other nations? hope you have some
>commants! remember if you want respects, you have to respect others first!
> 
	I'm sorry to say this but you seem to have misunderstood what I said.
	NOBODY WILL BE HAPPY when they are called JAPS or something like that,
	won't they?  Or are you?  I myself am not happy when called jap.  As I 
	said, this will lead us nowhere but flaming and blaming each other.


>This is exactly why so many asian nations are not happy about Japaness. The
>history has already happened. You can not change it. You can not say because
>your text book said this this, then, that is the fact. Who write these books?
>Japaness!

	I completely agree with you.

>I think the whole subject is very clear.
> 
>The Japaness invaded China and killed millions. Some body has to take some
>responsibility. There are three options:
> 
>(1) Japaness's responsibility, then, they have to apology to China.,
>(2) Chinese's responsibility, 
>(3) Both Chinese and Japaness.
> 
>Which one you choose! 
>>
>          Younan Lu, Notre Dame, USA

	I would choose the fourth; the Japanese government at that time should
	be responsible for the war, and as long as the issue of compensations
	is concerned, the current government should be.


						Tetsuya Nishimura
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:6921 soc.culture.china:23325 soc.culture.korean:3692