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I am just starting my family genealogy, and I would like to know what type
of software packages are out there for Mac, compitable on system 7 or on a
older operating system.  Thanks in advance.

Marc A. Bartusek
University of Northern Iowa

"I thank you and my ancestors thank you."
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Reply-To:     Lisa Oberg <lisanne@u.washington.edu>
From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dr. D. Scott Moncrieff of Portland, Oregon
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Loretta--

One thing that might be helpful to you and others is The American Medical
Association's database Deceased Physician Masterfile.  They generally have
an advertisement in the _Genealogical Helper_.  Information contains date
of birth, date of death, medical school, place of practice, and an
obituary.  The file is complete fron 1878 to 1905 but comprehensive fro
1906-1969.  The fee is $15.00/name and prepayment required.  The address is:
                                AMA Library and Archives
                                Attn:  Graham Hastings
                                PO Box 10623
                                Chicago, IL  60610
I do not have any affiliation with the AMA nor have I had an opportunity
to use this service, but it could potentially be helpful if Dr. Moncrieff
was a member of the AMA.  I did try the University of Washington's library
catalog to see if the collection had anything about or by him, but no
luck.

Hope this helps!

Lisa Oberg
lisanne@u.washington.edu

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993, Loretta Haack wrote:

> On behalf of a researcher here at the University of Tennessee, I
> am seeking information about a Dr. D. Scott Moncrieff of Portland,
> Oregon, who went to British Columbia to measure Amerindians in
> 1892.  He also appears to have been on Sakhalin Island in 1893.
>
> The point of interest is a link between peoples of the Amur river-Sakhalin
> Islands and some tribes of the Pacific Northwest.
>
> Genealogical information might be useful to contact about Dr. Moncrieff's
> work and travels.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Loretta Haack
> haack@utkux1.utk.edu
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From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Subject: Telephone Search Request: ROUSCULP
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:08:16 GMT


     I recently discovered a branch of my family who have changed their
name.  In the past, I have purchased mailing lists and paid to do a 
phone-lookup via CompuServ for RAUSCHKOLB (which is the correct name).
I wanted to know if there was anybody with access to PhoneDisk who would
be willing to look uo ROUSCULP (or anybody who was willing to look it
up in their phone books for me)
     If I find out that there are lots of them, then I guess I'll buy 
another list.

Thanks

Mark Rauschkolb
mrr1@ra.msstate.edu

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:11:28 EDT
Reply-To:     JOEL@DELPHINUS.LIB.UMB.EDU
From:         JOEL@DELPHINUS.LIB.UMB.EDU
Subject:      Re: Matrilineal Descent
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> Subject:    Matrilineal Descent
>
> From: botteron@bu-it.bu.edu

> Does anyone here have long lines you'd like to show us?

    I thought I had a deadend in my matrilineal line after 6
generations until this past weekend I happened to mention to my aunt
that we didn't have Levi Stoddard's wife.  She promptly pulled out
something that has already opened a whole new sector.  I haven't
proved this all out, but would be interested in hearing from anyone
who ties into this line.

Joel Fowler, of Boston, MA
Ethel Tenney, of Northfield, MA
Louella Dunklee, of Vernon, VT and Northfield, MA
Florence Brown, of Vernon, VT
Eunice Oakes, of Bernardston, MA and Vernon, VT
Cecilia Stoddard, of Vernon, VT
Elizabeth Fairman, of Vernon, VT
Elizabeth Pelton, of Somers, CT
Mary Whipple, of Enfield and Somers, CT
Mary Gary, of Woodstock, Enfield and Somers CT
Anne Rice, of Dedham, MA, Woodstock and Enfield, CT
Ann Hackley, of Dedham, MA

This gives me 12 generations.  I also have female cousins with
grandchildren through daughters, making 14 generations.

 Joel Fowler (Joel@delphinus.lib.umb.edu)
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From:         JMFREED@CC.OWU.EDU
Subject:      eponymous names
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Recent discussion asked if the practice of naming children after "famous"
individuals was common.  My example is that of my gg grandfather,  Simon
Peter Mason.  After he was born in 1834, I think his parents must have
"lost the faith" for his remaining brothers were Jefferson,
Martin VanBuren, Andrew Jackson, Joseph Wesley (an exception here perhaps),
and Benjamin Franklin, all born in Indiana, 1834 to 1853.  I'm wondering
if the 1800's included numerous families that named their children after
famous Americans, rather than typical biblical names......
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From:         KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Subject:      Re: England Q: recording shire
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Steve Hayes <hayesstw@RISC1.UNISA.AC.ZA> writes:
>>There are many counties in the UK with the name ending in shire, but not
>>all counties are the same.
>>e.g.:-  Yorkshire  Derbyshire.  A county without a shire ending would be
>>Avon for instance.
>
>Before 1974 Durham was the only English county that was not a shire.

I thought that Cornwall was also not a shire.
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From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: U.S. Federal Census forms
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I believe that there are copies of census forms in appendix of _Unpuzzling
Your Past_ by Emily Anne Croom.  It was published prior to the release of
the 1920 census so it doesn't include those column headings.

      AUTHOR: Croom, Emily Anne, 1943-
         TITLE: Unpuzzling your past : a basic guide to genealogy / Emily
                Anne Croom.
       EDITION: 2nd ed.
     PUBLISHER: White Hall, Va. : Betterway Publications, c1989.
   DESCRIPTION: 184 p. : ill., map, port. ; 28 cm.
         NOTES: Includes index.
                Bibliography: p. 116-119.
      SUBJECTS: Genealogy.
                United States--Genealogy--Handbooks, manuals, etc.

On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 dkortenk@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU wrote:

>         Does anyone know of a genealogy reference book that has blank Federal
> Census forms with headings for the various Census years?   These could be
> photocopied and used to record information while looking through the Census
> microfilms.
>
>
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From:         "Jennifer R. Amon (216) 775-6987" <BAMON@OCVAXC.CC.OBERLIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FHC Computer Knowledge
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Rob Bongiovi said:

>My final observation interests
>me most.  I do not blame the volunteers, they do a great job, but in my
>two visits to the FHC, the volunteers have been amazed at what I found
>on the CD-ROM, stuff they didn't know it does.

That scares me a little. I'm just getting ready to make my very first
visit to the local FHC. I don't know ANYTHING that it does. Is there
some level of doc available at the center? Does anybody on this list
have anything that they've written up for themselves that they'd be
willing to pass along to a novice? Would it be too much to ask for the
regular, experienced FHC users to send me some hints, instructions, etc.
I'd be glad to collate and re-post the responses I get. We could make
it into a FAQ. Maybe it already IS a FAQ?

  Jennifer R. Amon
  Amherst, Ohio      bamon@ocvaxc.cc.oberlin.edu

****************************************************************
RESEARCHING:
  AMON     (PA/Switz?)  DODD        (PA)           BROWN   (NJ)
  FARVER   (PA)         FREEMAN     (England)      INSLEY  (NJ)
  HEASLEY  (PA)         HAYES       (DE)           RIGGS   (NJ)
  FOULK    (PA)         HONEY       (DE)           ROY     (NJ)
  BUCHANAN (PA, Scot.)  CAPLAN      (Balto.,Lith.) REIMER  (NJ)
  STRIGHT  (PA)         FRIEDLANDER (Lith.)        STEVENS (CT)
  RUSSELL  (PA)         CARROLL     (PA)           BOVARD
****************************************************************
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From: brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj)
Subject: Military records of the Austro-Hungarian empire
Reply-To: brekshyn@shearson.com
Organization: Ordinatio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:57:12 GMT

Greetings,

   Has anyone had experience in researching names in the military archives
of the Austro-Hungarian empire?  Do they still exist?  I'm interested in
their records for the last two centuries.  I guess they would be in Vienna.
Any information would be appreciated - email welcome.  Thank you!


					Bohdan















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Calling All MAC/DOS, CD/RPM Experts!

Frank Deis wrote

<<Nearly every Family History Center is now
equipped with a CD ROM
 drive and attached computer.  You sign up for
time, and depending on how
 "popular" the FHC is, you may either "luck out"
and get a half hour as
 soon as you show up, or you might have to sign up
a week in advance.>>

I said to myself:

<<Where have you been?  They didn't used to have
those.>>

Frank said further

<<The only glitch here is that the whole setup is
DOS based, and if I
 remember correctly you are Mac based.>>

He was right, as usual, I do drive a MAC.

He continued

  <<If your Mac is new enough and good enough, then
Apple File Exchange ought to solve that one for
you.  If you can export onto a 3.5" flop, and
transfer onto your Mac, then either Mac PAF will
chew up GEDCOM and digest it into a standard file,
or you can just download the info as ASCII and play
with it via a word processor or something.>>

Here's where I need help.

Obviously any disk I copy to at the FHC must be
formatted for DOS.

Will I be able to format there?  How about
capacity:  800k, 1.3 meg?  Either?  Or?

Let's say I got my stuff successfully transferred
to diskette at the FHC.

What do I do now?

How do I get from DOS format to MAC format?  Is
there a program which will translate for me?  How
will I get my MAC to accept the DOS formatted disk?

I will appreciate any and all input.

  A
 CUFF;
 BISSON
 (BEESON);BURNS;
 BOILEAU;CARSON;COOK;                      DARRAGH
 (DARRAH);DORADO;ECHTERNACH;FEREE;GREGER(GREGAR,KRIEGER)>>
 HUBER;LEFEVER;LEWIS;LOESER; LUKENS;MCDOWELL;SCHIETER)
 (SHEETER);SCHIETZ(SHEETZ); TANEY;(TEANY);WIKER)
;WILLIAMSON. . . . . . .)dave carson)>>>

In an RFMAC-16 looking for wayward genes)>>>>>>>
From: jsanders@phys.ksu.edu (Justin M. Sanders)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Useful Maps
Date: 8 Jan 1993 06:13:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, Kansas State University, Manhattan KS, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

If your ancestors lived in the South at the time of the Civil War,
you might wish to consult the "Official Military Atlas of the Civil
War" (originally called the "Atlas to Accompany the Official Records
of the Union and Confederate Armies").  Many of the maps made for the
Union armies were very detailed, listing the names of the landowners
along the roads.  It may take some careful searching, but you may 
find your ancestors home.

In my own case, one of my families lived near Lafayette GA, and
their farm is noted on one of the maps prepared for Gen. Sherman's
Atlanta campaign.  I was able, with the aid of a modern map and
a bit of guidance from present-day locals in Lafayette, to visit
the vicinity of the farm.

So, take a look.  Even if you can't find your ancestors, many of the 
maps show the roads which can give you some ideas of migration routes.

--
Justin M. Sanders    "...a beautiful theory, killed by a nasty,
Dept. of Physics                  ugly little fact."
Kansas State Univ.                         -- T.H. Huxley
From: jshuman@koko.csustan.edu (Jeremy Shuman)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Flory Surname
Date: 7 Jan 93 07:42:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

Sorry to post this to the net, but I couldn't make Jim Eggert's address work.
Regarding the Flory Surname, I have several lines all leading to Joseph J.
Flory b. 1682 Palatinate, Germany, arrived Am. 1733, d. 1741 in PA. If this fi!
with what you have, please let me know. Any new information will be greatly
appreciated.
TIA.
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From: ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu (Joni Ciarletta)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: OCLC/First Search
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:41:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

Oh no! I haven't logged into the system in awhile, and when
I finally had a chance to, I see all sorts of messages about
OCLC having a trial period.  Have I missed it? I tried the
password but it didn't work.  Anyone know?

Please send me email directly at ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu.  I will
post the replies.

Thanks,


Joni

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From: kswatek@su19az.ess.harris.com (Ken Swatek)
Subject: SWATEK or SWIATEK family lines
Followup-To: soc.roots
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:30:19 GMT
Reply-To: kswatek@su19az.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

Is anyone else researching any of the SWATEK or SWIATEK family lines?

Ken
______________________________________________________________________________

Ken Swatek                             INTERNET: kswatek@su19az.ess.harris.com
Harris Corporation                     UUCP:     uunet!su19az!kswatek
Government Aerospace Systems Division  CCMail:   harris.kswatek
Mail Stop: 102-4827                    FAX:      407-729-3116
P.O. Box 94000                         Pager:    407-690-8548 (Digital)
Melbourne, Florida 32902               Voice:    407-727-6081
______________________________________________________________________________

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Subject: email course on using Internet
From: dkortenk@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:38:24 -0600
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        Several people have asked me about the email course on using the
Internet.  I mentioned it when sending the FirstSearch authorization and
password.

        The 3-week course, NAVIGATING THE INTERNET, began on November 16,
1992, and thus has been completed.  However, the lessons have been archived at
the listserver for the course, and can be obtained by email.
        To get an index of the lessons send an email message to:

                        listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

           The message should just read:

                        index navigate

        To get a particular lesson send an email message to the same server.
        This message should read:

                        get navigate <filename of lesson>

        This is the same procedure you would use to get an index of the
files in the ROOTS-L listserver, and get a particular file.

        Two new books for beginners on the internet are:

          Kehoe, Branden. (1993?). ZEN AND THE ART OF THE INTERNET.

          Krol, Ed. (1992). THE WHOLE INTERNET: USER'S GUIDE & CATALOG.


        Bon voyage!

        Daniel


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    / Daniel Kortenkamp, PhD / Office: (715) 346-3953  \/\/
   /\  UW-Psychology        /  Home: (715) 344-5844     \/
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        They cover much the same material as the NAVIGATE course.


        Good luck!

        Daniel


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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:19:45 PST
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From:         08-Jan-1993 1110 <lane@ELWOOD.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Block sizes and such
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

>figured out on our VAX/VMS system that to determine the file size I
>need to enter the command:
>dir filename.ext/size
>However, it comes back with "so many" blocks... The /full switch gives
>a variable field length of 73... Do I figure the block size x 73 to
>get an estimate of the bytes? Can anyone tell me if 25, 32, or 33
>blocks is more or less 65K?

One block on a VMS system is 512 bytes so take the number of blocks, divide
by two and add three zeros to the right and there your are with bytes,
more or less.

Mickey.  DEC Tape engineering.  If you really want to get confused, try
working with compressed tape blocks....
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From: CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech)
Subject: Hulsaver Family
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:58:20 GMT

Does anyone know of anyone researching the family name HULSAVER.  I have not
be able to find ANYONE researching this name.  Please let me know.  The
Hulsavers that I know of resided in New York State (in and around Montgomery
County and on the Erie Canal).
Thanks,
Teresa
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Reply-To:     KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
From:         KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Subject:      Re: First White Woman Born In Texas?
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Your ancestor may have been the first woman of *United States* ancestry born
in Texas, but surely there were Hispanic women there first.
Just trying to clear things up. :-)

Rick Kitchen
kitchenrn@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:57:29 -0500
Reply-To:     "David L. Carson" <carsod@RPI.EDU>
From:         "David L. Carson" <carsod@RPI.EDU>
Subject:      CD/ROM,DOS/MAC, FHC
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Calling All MAC/DOS, CD/RPM Experts!

Frank Deis wrote

<<Nearly every Family History Center is now
equipped with a CD ROM
 drive and attached computer.  You sign up for
time, and depending on how
 "popular" the FHC is, you may either "luck out"
and get a half hour as
 soon as you show up, or you might have to sign up
a week in advance.>>

I said to myself:

<<Where have you been?  They didn't used to have
those.>>

Frank said further

<<The only glitch here is that the whole setup is
DOS based, and if I
 remember correctly you are Mac based.>>

He was right, as usual, I do drive a MAC.

He continued

  <<If your Mac is new enough and good enough, then
Apple File Exchange ought to solve that one for
you.  If you can export onto a 3.5" flop, and
transfer onto your Mac, then either Mac PAF will
chew up GEDCOM and digest it into a standard file,
or you can just download the info as ASCII and play
with it via a word processor or something.>>

Here's where I need help.

Obviously any disk I copy to at the FHC must be
formatted for DOS.

Will I be able to format there?  How about
capacity:  800k, 1.3 meg?  Either?  Or?

Let's say I got my stuff successfully transferred
to diskette at the FHC.

What do I do now?

How do I get from DOS format to MAC format?  Is
there a program which will translate for me?  How
will I get my MAC to accept the DOS formatted disk?

I will appreciate any and all input.

  A
 CUFF;
 BISSON
 (BEESON);BURNS;
 BOILEAU;CARSON;COOK;                      DARRAGH
 (DARRAH);DORADO;ECHTERNACH;FEREE;GREGER(GREGAR,KRIEGER)>>
 HUBER;LEFEVER;LEWIS;LOESER; LUKENS;MCDOWELL;SCHIETER)
 (SHEETER);SCHIETZ(SHEETZ); TANEY;(TEANY);WIKER)
;WILLIAMSON. . . . . . .)dave carson)>>>

In an RFMAC-16 looking for wayward genes)>>>>>>>
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