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From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: XView and OpenWindows ports
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:24:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: sq.1992Jul23.212448.15011
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada

I am compiling a list of all XView ports and OpenWindows ports, whether
free, ftp'able or commercial.

Ideally, I'd like to see a repository of binary libs, ports, notes, etc.,
somewhere on the Internet.  Any offers?

People on the net have mentioned:
* HP 9000/300
* HP 720
* SVR4/i386 [David Dawes, ftp from ftp.physics.su.oz.au in Esix_4/x11r5]
* Ultrix (DECStation)
* SunOS 4/Sun 3
* SunOS 4/SPARC (a rather easy port!)

If you mail me details I'll make it a regular alt.toolkits.xview posting,
and perhaps list them in the comp.windows.open-look FAQ.

I do not know of any OpenWindows 3 ports apart from the Sun SPARC binary.
Please tell me there are more!  Presumably all of these would be available
commercially, since there are royalties involved.

I am not bothering to mention olvwm or olwm ports, as there are probably too
many to count by now!

Lee
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: astevens@ep.ieee.org (Andrew Stevens)
Subject: Anybody out there use "filemgr"?
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:50:44 GMT

Hi,

I would like to set up the "filemgr" program for some novice users on
my system.  Specifically, I would like them to be able to start
applications by double-clicking on the icon for the file or directory.

This is very straightforward if you want to run an application on a
certain kind of file (basically, you set up a new entry in "binder"
application).  However, what if you want to start an application on a
directory instead of a file?  It seems that directories in the filemgr
are stuck with the "folder.icon" symbol.  How can I change the icon
symbol on a certain directory, and also run an application on that
directory?

Is anybody out there doing anything similar to this?

--Andy Stevens
IEEE, NY
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: woodside@bnr.ca (Kevin Woodside)
Subject: Re: XVTDL 3.0 Released
Reply-To: woodside@bnr.ca
Organization: Northern Telecom Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:27:42 GMT

Does anyone know of a program similar to XVTDL 3.0 that does NOT
require OpenWindows or XView?   I'm looking for a program with similar
functionality, but compilable (is this a word?) in a Motif/X11R4
environment.
 
Kevin 
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: mtn@duke.cs.duke.edu (Michael T. Naseef)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: ispell for mailtool/textedit
Summary: Why does my selection go away???
Keywords: ispell standard input
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:08:06 GMT
Followup-To: Sender
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

I have a similar setup for using ispell from the textsw extras menu,
but I have had a problem using it in that if it takes me too long to
finish, (about 10 seconds) the selection goes away.  The result is that
no change occurs in the text.
The selection doesn't go away under other circumstances, only when I'm
using the ispell script.  If I reselect the text, that has no
effect. Sometimes I will get an error message about a broken pipe.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?

I am using olvwm V3 on OpenWindows V3, SunOS 4.1.1 sun4c.

Mike
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From: swf@teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Xview popup problem
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:18:25 GMT
Reply-To: swf@tdat.teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit

In article <268@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
|
|I am encountering some difficulty working around one of the "features"
|of XView. Does anyone know how to get around the following?
|
|I create a popup window with its pushpin out. When ever a button is pressed,
|the popup *always* disappears, even if I explicitly set the XV_SHOW attribute
|for the frame to TRUE in the notify proc for the button, before the return
|to the Notifier. ...

That's right.  That is how it is supposed to work.  The blessed way of
doing what you want is described in the XView Reference Manual as follows:

   If the panel item is part of an unpinned command frame, then the window
   is dismissed if PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS is XV_OK.  If PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS is
   set to XV_ERROR, then the window is not dismissed.
and later:
   Default: XV_OK

Thus for those buttons that do not finish the operation of the you must
*always* set PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS to XV_ERROR, as follows:
	xv_set(item, PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS, XV_ERROR, 0);
(where item is probably the first arg to your callback function).


Yeah, I know, it really isn't an *error*, but you have to say it is.
(This is one thing that OLIT got better - in that toolkit the pop-up
panel is divided into two regions, and upper region contining non-finishing
items, and a lower region that contains the items that should complete
the pop-up operation).
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  or
Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: pageview
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:29:35 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <Bs42Ip.C92@newcastle.ac.uk> dph1kg@durham.ac.uk writes:
<Why is pageview so rubbish for multipage documents? Is there a cure?

Actually it isn't complete rubbish.  Your PostScript document needs to be
PostScript DSC compliant.  If it isn't, it doesn't know where the page
breaks are.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: ajn@physics.wm.edu (smaller than I look on TV.)
Subject: Re: Large buttons under XView 3.0
Reply-To: ajn@physics.wm.edu
Organization: Rio de Caca Illuminati
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:26:03 GMT

I have the same problem with some code I wrote by hand, we are running
X11R5pl12, XView 3.0, under sunos 4.1.1 on an aged 4/260. My $0.02, I think
it is a bug in XView - but it never bothered me sufficiently to report it.
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3260 comp.windows.x.motif:5272
From: brosen@BBN.COM (Bruce L. Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Unknown keysym name with Motif application under OpenWin
Date: 28 Jul 1992 19:44:36 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: brosen@BBN.COM (Bruce L. Rosen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

We have an X application that was linked using Motif version 1.1 libraries.
When we attempt to run it under OpenLook on a SparcIPC using SunOS 4.1.1,
we get hundreds of error messages of the type

X Toolkit Warning: translation table syntax error: unknown keysym name:
     osfActivate
X Toolkit warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate: 
     ManagerGadgetSelect() '


We have a valid XKeysymDB file in /usr/lib/X11.

Can anyone explain what causes this error and what the cure might be?

Thanks.

Bruce Rosen (brosen@bbn.com)
BBN Software Products
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: hcohl@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu (Howard Cohl)
Subject: CM font.
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:13:36 GMT


   Hi folks,

   I am using the OPENWINDOWS 3 version of cm.  (Calendar
   Manager.)  I can't seem to be able, for the life 
   of me, to change the font used by cm.  It's such
   a tiny one.  I've tried changing the cm.Font 
   resource and even the *Font resource in my 
   .Xdefaults file.  Neither of these things 
   seem to work. 
   
   Help,
   Howie

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From: kim@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Kim Adamson-Sharpe (kim@west.sq.com))
Subject: Re: Xview popup problem
Organization: SoftQuad (West), Vancouver, B.C.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:09:30 GMT

In article <268@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>
>SunOS 4.1.1  OW2.0
>
>The following question is from one of our software development team members.
>Any and all help is appreciated.
>
>
>I am encountering some difficulty working around one of the "features"
>of XView. Does anyone know how to get around the following?
>
>I create a popup window with its pushpin out. When ever a button is pressed,
>the popup *always* disappears, even if I explicitly set the XV_SHOW attribute
>for the frame to TRUE in the notify proc for the button, before the return
>to the Notifier. I even tried sticking in the following code before setting
>XV_SHOW, in the hope that executing the Notifier loop once might reset things,
>but it still didn't work:
>
>	notify_dispatch();
>	XFlush( (Display *) xv_get( frame, XV_DISPLAY ) );
>
>
>The reason I want to do this is that my popup creates a list of filenames
>and directories to load (the directory names have a "/" at the end to
>distinguish them). If the user selects a directory name from the scrolled
>list and presses the Load button, I want the popup to then display the list 
>of filenames and directories in the selected directory. The 
>list of files is successfully built and displayed (I know this because I
>can see this when I step through execution of the code with the debugger),
>but when the return to the Notifier is done from the button notify proc, 
>the popup always disappears if the pushpin was out. I also tried setting
>the FRAME_CMD_PUSHPIN_IN attribute to TRUE before the return to the
>Notifier but that still didn't work.
>
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This should be in the FAQ if it isn't already, since this is a common
problem.

The default action (button push dismisses a command frame) is discussed
on page 148 (section 7.7.2 Menu Buttons) in Vol. 7 the XVIEW Programming
Manual by Dan Heller (Revised and Updated for Version 2). You can prevent
the frame from being dismissed by setting the button's PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS
to XV_ERROR in the button's notify procedure.

Add this line to your button's notify proc:

	xv_set(button, PANEL_NOTIFY_STATUS, XV_ERROR, NULL);

This will keep the command frame (popup window) up. That's it.

Kim.
-- 
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From: fgreco@shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: xv_wait()?
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:38:19 GMT

I've been trying to implement xv_wait(), the XView replacement for good
'ole wait() without much success.  I have to fork() off a child in an
XView pgm, but must wait for its completion.  I use notify_set_wait3_func()
to handle the SIGCHLD signal of course:


/*************************************************/
Notify_value waitfn(me, pid, status, rusage)
Notify_client me;
int pid;
union wait *status;
struct rusage *rusage;
{
	Notify_value value;

	childstatus = CHILD_INACTIVE;

	if ( WIFEXITED (*status) )
		return NOTIFY_DONE;

	return NOTIFY_IGNORED;
}


Then I use my xv_wait() to wait for the child to terminate while
getting XView events.

When my handler is executed (ie, when the child terminates), I set a
"global" flag called childstatus to CHILD_INACTIVE.  My xv_wait()
merely spins around waiting for this variable to change to CHILD_INACTIVE.


/*************************************************/
xv_wait(delay)
int delay;              /* In microseconds ... just a dummy */
{
	int i = 0;

	while( childstatus == CHILD_ACTIVE ) {
		usleep(delay);
		notify_dispatch();
	}
}

What is puzzling, is that in a non-windowing application, this
seems to work fine (ie, using the notifier without XView).  The 
minute I use this with Xview, my xv_wait() never returns.

It seems that my SIGCHLD handler is never called setting the
state variable of my child process in an XView application.

Anyone see something obviously wrong with my strategy here?

Thanks all,

Frank G.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.x
From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Subject: Re: XView and OpenWindows ports
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
X-Feet: bare, naked, free and joyful
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 04:08:07 GMT

[Updated list enclosed...]

I am compiling a list of all XView ports and OpenWindows ports, whether
free, ftp'able or commercial.

Ideally, I'd like to see a repository of binary libs, ports, notes, etc.,
somewhere on the Internet.  Any offers?

If you mail me details I'll make it a regular alt.toolkits.xview posting,
and perhaps list them in the comp.windows.open-look FAQ.

I do not know of any OpenWindows 3 ports apart from the Sun SPARC binary.
Please tell me there are more!  Presumably all of these would be available
commercially, since there are royalties involved.

I am not bothering to mention olvwm or olwm ports, as there are probably too
many to count by now!  I will list them only if they are available by ftp.

Here is my current list...

OpenWindows 3 Ports
    Sun: SPARC, SunOS 4.1
    Sun: SPARC, Solaris 2 (actually 3.0.1?)
    others: none so far...

There are said (by Sun) to be over 35 ports of OpenWindows either
available now or in progress.  Contact Anthony Flynn at Open Vistas
International (anthony@ovi.com) for more information.
There was said to have been a new announcement about OpenWindows 3 source
availability this month, but I didn't see it if there was.


XView 3 ports

What: XView 3
System: A/UX
Porter: lmj@uncompaghre.jax.org (Lou Jones)
Ftp: encyclo.jax.org
Notes:
	The libraries and utilities (olwm, cmdtool, etc) are available for
	anonymous ftp from encyclo.jax.org. I used gcc 2.1 to compile the
	sources. If there is enough interest, I can make the diffs
	available.

What: XView 2
System: Stellar GS100 (Stardent 1000) and Stardent 1500 & 3000
Porter: arvai@scripps.edu (Andy Arvai)
Ftp: perutz.scripps.edu (137.131.152.27) in the pub/xview directory
Notes:
	Stardent is now Kubota Pacific (KPC)

What: XView 3
System: DECStation/Ultrix
Porter: dscott@ittc.wec.com (Dave Scott)

What: XView 3
System: Sun 3
System: SysVR4/i386
Porter: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)
Ftp: suphys.physics.su.oz.au  /Esix_4/x11r5 hierarchy
Notes:
	His patches were for Esix 4.0.3 but they should work on DELL, ISC and
	Intel SVR4 with no worries

What: XView 3
System: HP9000/300 series
Porter: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Notes:
	`we've just got a 720 so I'll have a go at that soonish now'
	[12 Jun 92]


Please tell me about _your_ ports :-)

-- 
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From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Xview popup problem
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:07:55 GMT

> I create a popup window with its pushpin out. When ever a button is pressed,
> the popup *always* disappears, even if I explicitly set the XV_SHOW attribute

	This is a feature.

> for the frame to TRUE in the notify proc for the button, before the return
> to the Notifier. I even tried sticking in the following code before setting
> XV_SHOW, in the hope that executing the Notifier loop once might reset things,
> but it still didn't work:

	First, if you can, use OW 3.0 and devguide 3.0.  It's so much
	easier to do.

	First of all, the pushpin has a lot to do with the popup's visibility.

	Here's some code that might help you:

	_showpopup(f, flag)
	Frame f;
	int flag;
	{
		return xv_set(f,
			FRAME_CMD_PUSHPIN_IN,	flag,
			XV_SHOW,		flag,
			NULL;
	}

	showpopup(f)
	Frame f;
	{
		_showpopup(f, TRUE);
	}

	unshowpopup(f)
	Frame f;
	{
		_showpopup(f, FALSE);
	}


	Frank G.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: Why does cmdtool not read .ttyswrc ?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:27:17 GMT

Hellow,
does anybody know why cmdtool fail to read/execute .ttywsrc if
cmdtool is started with scroll on?? It fails with some error like
tty-TIOCCONS no priviledge, or some such.

Clicking off scroll, and viola... the key remaps defined in .ttywsrc are
magically working? what the hec's "tty-TIOCCNONS"??
thanx in advance,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: crussell@samson.hac.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: GUI Builder for Ada
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:59:21 GMT
Reply-To: crussell@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

We are beginning to use the UIM/X interface builder for Motif development on the
SPARC.  UIM/X is a product developed by Quest Windows Corporation, 5200 Great America
Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, phone 408/496-1900 or Internet info@quest.com.

I can't give you much of an evaluation on the product yet, cause we're still pretty
new to it.  I hope this helps.

Chris.

Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3192 comp.sys.sun.apps:1443
From: gohel@eggo.csee.usf.edu (Himanshu Gohel)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: SunVision 1.1/AnswerBook under OW v3.0
Keywords: Is it possible?
Date: 17 Jul 92 20:17:01 GMT
Reply-To: gohel@eggo.csee.usf.edu
Followup-To: poster
Organization: U of South Florida, Dept. of Computer Science

A question for you:

Is it possible to run SunVision 1.1 or AnswerBook under
OpenWindows v3.0?

I remember some time ago some had said that it was possible
to install OW3 but save the OW2 libraries which would
facilitate running older programs.

Is that true?  What exactly needs to be done to make it work?

Himanshu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.lang.ada
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: GUI Builder for Ada
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:09:54 GMT

In <1992Jul27.182007.6433@seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes:

>In article <1992Jul27.121511.23931@trantor.harris-atd.com> ccarpent@dpcs_gt1.ess.harris.com (Craig Carpenter) writes:
>>--
>>
>>BuilderXcessory will be releasing their Ada version in Sept. 92, supposed
>>to be about $9,000. (The C version is about $3200)
>>
>Ah, yes. The old "rip off the Ada users" problem again. Do these guys think
>nobody but deep-pockets defense companies could POSSIBLY be interested in
>Ada development? At least the compiler vendors can fall back on the (now
>lame) excuse that validation is expensive. How do these guys justify it?

Cost of the port and expected maintenance amortized over the expected
number of sales?

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: hofu@nlp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Holzfuss)
Subject: ld.so: map heap error ... running printool V3
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:33:39 GMT
Reply-To: hofu@nlp.physik.th-darmstadt.de
Organization: TH-Darmstadt, Institut fuer Angewandte Physik
Keywords: OW3, printtool

Hi,
Has anyone gotten printool V3 under OW3 to work?
dragging and dropping a file from the filemgr right into the
window reports 
Drag and Drop: Illegal Target

dropping it into the little rectangle near the top
makes the tool crash with
ld.so: map heap error (9) for /dev/zero
exit 127    

Maybe this sounds familiar to somebody, I give up 
after 10 trys.

Thanks.
j.h.


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From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Tool talk example
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:31:21 GMT

> I am looking for a tooltalk example to help me get started
> tooltalking...
> 
> Any givers out there?

(for OW 3.0)
Look in $OPENWINHOME/share/src/tooltalk...

Frank G.
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