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From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Format of Code Exams?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:23:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.155901.17375@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
>In article <1787@necis.UUCP> rbono@necis.UUCP (Rich) writes:
>>
>> This was for all code speeds: 5 Wpm, 13 Wpm and 20 Wpm!
>> I don't have actual statistics, but it really did seem that there were
>>more failures with the multiple choice.
>>
>> My feeling is that if you can copy the code, then there is not a big
>>difference in the testing method used.  Unless you get your heart set on
>>a particular exam style, then get upset when that is not what you are tested
>>with.
>>
>> I would like to hear other's thoughts on this.  Maybe a scientific study
>>would provide some interesting results.
>
>Here's my own results from taking the CW tests;
>
>13 WPM: Passed 7 out of 10 on multiple choice test. Would have failed fill
>        in the blanks.

I just upgraded and took the 13 wpm - No way I had a full minute of straight
copy, no way could I have filled in several of the answers if they were
fill in the blanks, I got 9 of 10 correct on the multiple choice.

Part of being able to work the multiple choice to your best advantage is
to look at the answers and see if you have even a partial match in your
copy for one of the answers.  From what I could tell, the questions
followed the order of the code test...that is the answer to question number
3 would be after number 2 (in the code sent) and befor the answer to
questtion number 4.  Had the questions been "out-of-order" I'd likely
have missed 2 or 3 more questions.  

An example of being able to make a partial match had to do with the name of an  individual that was asked in one question.  The answers had 4 different 
names, but in the general area of the text where I expected the answer,
I didn't have a full name, BUT I did have the letters "CK" which only
matched the last two characters of the answer "DICK."  

As another poster mentioned, at least on a multiple choice you have a 1 in 4
possibility of guessing the correct answer, with the likelyhood that
with some ability you can improve the odds by at least eliminating 1 or two
answers which you think are absolutly not correct.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld)
Subject: FCC Amateur Licensing and $$$
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:15:18 GMT


What we have here is ... "Ability to communicate."

The FCC doesn't get any money from amateur licensing because hams are a
"National Resource."  Every time someone on Capitol Hill gets the idea 
of charging hams for having a license and applying for changes in callsign,
someone remembers that there was, well, an earthquake or a tornado or 
a hurricane or other natural disaster that caused a communications 
breakdown.  And who was there to get vital information in and out of the
affected area?  

Hams.  As a general body, hams are well prepared for emergencies, and 
generally OWN and OPERATE equipment perfectly suited to operate in emer-
gencies.  Other branches of the government maintain their equipment as
emergency gear, while we keep it in good working condition.  We have the 
best communications system out there, and it's always in good shape.  
When the Feds go to respond to an emergency, they have to scramble to 
get everything ready.  We just go over to the rig, hook up a car battery
or generator, and we're ready to go.  And we're stationed all over the
country - nearly every town has a ham or two, some even have a few thou-
sand...

So by not charging hams to operate, and with constant reminders that we
are a really good source of emergency communications, the FCC and Congress
allows us to spend licensing fees on equipment maintenance and the pur-
chase of newer, better equipment.  We just have to remember that, when 
called upon, we should answer.  

As for testing fees, the FCC allows the Volunteer Examiner Coordinator
(VEC) like W5YI, Laurel-VEC, and ARRL-VEC, to collect up to $5.60 per
examinee to cover operational costs, such as gasoline, donuts, copying, 
postage, etc., etc.  With W5YI, if less than 9 people are tested, $3.10
per person goes to W5YI, while $2.50 stays with the examining team for
expenses.  For 10 or more people, W5YI gets like $2.50/person, and the
VE's get $3.10 per person for expenses.  These figures are approximate
as the numbers have just changed, and I don't have them memorized yet.

P.S.  Giving the FCC money would not improve service, just get more money
into the FCC pot.  The FCC really doesn't do very much with ham radio 
anymore.  All they do is FILE the forms and print up licenses.  The 
rules are already written (not many changes to be made), and the amateur
service is now said to be "self-policing."  We can report violations to
the FCC, but they won't usually go after anyone on the ham bands on 
their own behalf.  We are trusted to be mature, and for the most part, 
we are.

So no, for the most part the general public's taxes are not supporting
the amateur service, because the FCC hardly puts any time or money into
it in the first place.  Not that I wouldn't pay $5 a year, but the FCC
really doesn't NEED it.  

Happy hamming. Just my $0.04 worth.

73, Scott NF3I

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: 900 Mhz cordless -  AT&T news release
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:35:45 GMT



I picked this up from a post to alt.scanner

In article <1993Jan12.155103.16454@cis.ohio-state.edu> bonk@elm.cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory j bonk) writes:
>I was sent this from a broadcast to AT&T employees.
> Thought you might be interested.....
>   
>         *** AT&T today announced a high-power, all-digital cordless phone 
>         with four times the range of today's conventional cordless 
>         telephones.  The AT&T Extended Range Cordless Telephone 9530 
>         operates in the 900-MHz frequency, providing virtually 
>         interference-free conversations with consistent sound quality up 
>         to one mile from the base.  The AT&T 9530 uses full digital 
>         transmission to encode speech onto a radio signal, much like music 
>         is encoded onto a CD, and to provide clearer sound over a longer 
>         range than cordless phones operating in the 46/49-MHz frequency.  
>         AT&T's spread-spectrum, frequency-hopping architecture, which is 
>         patent-pending, actually avoids interference by "hopping" the 
>         radio signal among 50 of the available 173 channels during a 
>         conversation.  If any of the channels experience interference, the 
>         9530 automatically swaps it for a new, clearer channel.  Because 
>         it operates over a different frequency, the AT&T 9530 is 
>         unaffected by forms of interference common to 46/49-MHz cordless 
>         phones, such as garage door openers, baby monitors and radio 
>         intercoms.  It also performs well in environments typically 
>         difficult for conventional cordless, such as high-rise apartment 
>         and multilevel buildings.  The random selection of 50 of 173 
>         channels, along with digital speech encoding, makes it nearly 
>         impossible to eavesdrop on conversations.  The AT&T 9530 was 
>         designed and developed by AT&T Bell Laboratories, employing 
>         advanced integrated circuit technology developed jointly with AT&T 
>         Microelectronics.  The AT&T Extended Range Cordless Telephone 9530 
>         will be available in late spring at AT&T Phone Centers nationwide 
>         for $449.99.  For more information, call 800-222-3111.
>


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: karn@servo.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn)
Subject: Re: Who do repeater coordinators represent?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:32:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.144520.19597@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cep4478@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.E. Piggott ) writes:
>Statements like "I heard packet works better through a repeater" concern
>me (not that you said that - I've just heard it before).  One of the
>potential strengths of packet is as a distributed, redundant system.
>Adding a repeater greatly reduces collisions, but at a significant
>expense:
>
>	- the repeater is a single point-of-failure, and
>		many people will not be able to or know
>		how to operate without it when the repeater
>		dies
>	- repeater coverage rarely stays localized.  After
>		a while, a better antenna, more power, etc.
>		and you wind up with a wide-coverage packet
>		repeater that is jammed up.

Deja vu warning...

I happen to agree with this. Using repeaters to reduce collisions
*does* involve a significant opportunity cost. Unfortunately, the
alternative techniques to "do it right" are still not yet known in the
amateur service. These include:

1. Spread spectrum, which creates a channel that degrades more
gracefully with multiple simultaneous transmitters than does a
narrowband channel.

2. Strong forward error correction coding. By decreasing the required
signal-to-noise(interference) ratio, this enhances the ability of
spread spectrum to tolerate multiple simultaneous transmitters on a
channel. And by reducing the necessary transmitter power to sustain a
link, it also reduces interference to other receivers.

3. Automatic transmitter power control so you never use more power
than is actually necessary to reach a particular node.

4. Automatic routing algorithms with link metrics based on
power/interference estimates so that paths are chosen on the basis of
their minimum impact on overall system capacity. I.e., you would
choose a path of many closely spaced nodes over a few widely spaced
nodes because the much lower power required at each hop would more
than make up for the increased number of hops.

Phil



Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:34:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan04.041314.17458@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.011010.8108@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) writes:
>>Of course you don't HAVE to turn your gear off. Just don't whine about him
>>using your repeater.
>
>Why do you characterize jamming a link freq as "using your repeater"??

As I see it, there isn't any jamming if there isn't any transmission (by
the repeater/link) when someone else uses the frequency.  I posed the
hypothetical situation about two hams driving two vehicles across
country and operating simplex on a frequency that might (in some places)
have a reqpeater on it.  As other's have suggested, the better process
would be to choose a repeater output frequency as the hypothetical since
it should be much easier to determine simply by listening if the frequency
is in use.  My point in making this hypothetical is to note that NO
repeater operator OWNS any frequency nor do they have exclusive use
of the frequency on any "pre-emptive" basis if the frequency is idle.

I find nothing in the FCC regs to sustain the viewpoint that if a
simplex QSO is going on on an idle repeater output frequency that the
participants in that simplex QSO are in any way guilty of jamming,
infringeing, harrasing, etc.  As I originally said, if I was one
of the participants I'd change frequencies if asked politely, I'm
not sure I'd do so if some self appointed frequency cop read the
riot act simply because that frequency had been coordinated for a repeater.

Don't turn this discussion into a battle of extremeist positions.
The focus should be on the relative merits, legalities, and value
to the ham community and the public good of having closed repeaters.

One last item - I asked how the operator(s) of a closed system enforce
the exclusive use of the repeater.  Other than turning it off, I havent
seen any answer given.  So, again I pose the question, if I (or anyone)
determines the access code (PL, etc) and use the repeater, what is
the general practice that closed system operators follow to eliminate
my access to that repeater?  Second question: if no action is taken
to change the PL or whatever access coding is used, does anyone
think they have some recourse towards someone that continues to
use the closed repeater without paying the operator (this assumes the
unwilling to pay user is making use of the repeater in a technically
correct and non-interfering manner)?

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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From: oler@rho.uleth.CA (Cary Oler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 08 January
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:33:27 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: squrppi@krk.fi (Sami Reijonen)
Subject: Re: DJ580 mod
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:56:06 GMT

UD116446@vm1.nodak.edu writes:

: I know I saw the DJ580 mod on here earlier what was it again?

	REPOST WARNING	-  REPOST WARNING

This modification widens the listening area to 130 - 179.995MHz and to
400 - 469.995MHz. It does not allow one to transmit out-of-band but says
only "Off" :-)

As you might already know, software altering for the radio is done as follows:
Use FL/PL lock, enter "#" and then the 3-digit number. Just like the documents
tell how the cross-band repeater is put in action.

I received this information from my dealer, who sent the mod for the 560 model
- but it works just fine in my 580E. Fine thing, still have my guarantee :-)
-- 

Trying to connect my 3.14159Tb/s 3-beam overspace link to Vega, Lyrae...

Connect 3141592653590/V92Ter/LapLAND/Mnp666/Vryfast

squrppi@krk.fi
OH2KEA (KP 20 LF)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rliles@spuds.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ray Liles)
Subject: AMTOR PK-232 Changeover Command
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:36:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL
Keywords: amtor, pk232

For those of you using the PK-232 in AMTOR operation:

When you are the receiving station in ARQ, is there a way to force a changeover
with CTRL-Key combinations, without having to go to the cmd: and enter 'ACHG'?
I have not found anything within the manual, but I have found several items
not clearly documented.

For simplicity, I running a dumb terminal to the PK-232 and do not wish replys 
concerning software solutions.

Thanks, 

Ray

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From: jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu (Jeff Hite )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DJ-580 soft case
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:36:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1ia3j7INN7tn
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu

I'm looking for a soft case for my 580, it's part# ESC-17 and have not  
been able to find one thru the dealers I usually purchase from. Anyone  
know of a store that has any or dealers that stock alot of the Alinco  
accessories?
Thanks,
Jeff Hite	KF7SZ
jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jab@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Alan Barrow)
Subject: Re: Anybody want to talk about Clover?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:24:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

Is there a FAQ or reference list (articles, papers, hardware suppliers)
for clover? That would be a good start.

Perhaps also a mailing list.

I am interested, as are others in my area. But as far as we can tell, it
will be a $1k investment to get started. Is there more than one HW
implementation? 

I have heard much whining over 56k costs of $200-500. Granted that
Clover is unique, but I would hope that we would be able to get the
costs down to the "upper end DSP tnc" range. (Please feel free to inform
me if it there currently)

Thanks in advance!


 Alan Barrow  km4ba | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack
 jab@atl.hp.com     | ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched
                    | C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
 ..!gatech!kd4nc!   | All those moments will be lost in time -
         km4ba!alan | like tears in rain. Time to die.          Roy Batty
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: NASA Project Dante & Compressed Video?
Organization: Columbia University
	<11373@prijat.cs.uofs.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:46:42 GMT

> Considering how much trouble they have had just keeping it's legs attached,
> I can't imagine them keeping a high-speed packet network running.
> 
> And anyway, when the legs fall off again, they can always drag it back out
> with the fiber-optic cable.   :-)  or is it :-(

Low blow!  Besides, that's about what happened in Antarctica :-).  The
legs stayed on, but their fiber-optic cable didn't unreel properly.
It developed a kink, and when they tried to straighten it out, the
fiber broke.  Mission scrubbed.  Sigh.
	-Steve
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: acm139@ccs.northeastern.edu (Scott Ehrlich)
Subject: WANTED: Repeater controller comments
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:38:39 GMT


I am looking for USER REPORTS on the Computer Automated Technology CAT-1000 
Repeater Controller.

I am primarily interested in the areas of Durability, Service problems, etc.

Also, if you have comments/suggestions/recommendations for any other 
repeater controller, please let me know, too.

The budget is under $1000.

Thanks much in advance!

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| Scott Ehrlich 	       Internet: wy1z@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu   |
| Amateur Radio: wy1z          Packet Radio: wy1z@k1ugm.ma.usa.na	      |
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From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KH5K ... Can we get 'em?
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:36:22 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <milewski-060193082452@fp2-st-affairs-3.uoregon.edu>
milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu (Steve Milewski) writes:

stuff deleted..>
>The posting says that since KH5K is the 4th most wanted country in Europe,
>this operation will "focus" on working Europeans. Does anyone in the know
>have any info as to how long and when the operation will operate so that we
>statesiders can work them too?
>
The path from that part of the Pacific  to Europe has limited openings 
each day.  Thus, the expedition will try to work those areas when the
bands are open and they should be congratulated for it.  Thank God
Romeo at P5RS7 called *CQ USA* and *CQ NA* or I might have never
gotten through.

>Just because all big guns have already worked KH5K doesn't mean we little
>guys need it any less.
>
>Thanks,
>Steve/ AA7FL
Steve, you shouldn't have any problem at all.  The expedition will

probably only be able to focus on Europe and Africa for 3 to 4 hours
per day, particularly the way the sunspots have been dropping off
lately.  By the way, be careful of which station you log.  The
Palmyra and Kingman Reef stations will be on the air simultaneously.
Good luck to you! I need them both on 80 meters, so I'll be trying to
get through the *Midwest Curtain* to work them. 73, Tom WB4IUX (in S. C.)


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From: MSUORANTA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mika Suoranta Tkkk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2m repeaters in northern LA and SM countries??
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:47:43 GMT
Organization: Turku School of Economics, Finland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


 
        2 METER REPEATERS IN NO.NORWAY AND SWEDEN
 
        Would some ham from LA or SM-country post info
        about northmost repeaters on 144MHz band. I will
        be traveling to Lapland, most of the time near
        Finnish-Norwegian/Swedish borders, and take my 
        2m handheld and 3..4 element beam in the backpack,
        sort of emergency communications. 
 
        It is likely there are no repeaters north of the 
        Arctic Circle, but do drop a line.
 
                73 Mika



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From: cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 100 Mile Endurance Run Software
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:13:03 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Greetings,
Before the holiday someone posted with a need for the software used by
amateur radio operators in support of a 100 mile endurance run.  We played
phone tag, and I've mislaid the message.  Would that person please get in
touch again?

73
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