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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:13:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:32:09 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.173209.12337@infonode.ingr.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors

peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:

>> "get to"?  The menubar is not a keyboard-useful device, unless you want
>> to arrow-key step through everything.

>Or unless you're running Microsft Windows. In which case you can step
>through the menus selecting the underlined letters with the ALT key
>depressed. It's amazingly handy. I wonder why nobody else has picked it
>up. Does Microsoft have a patent on it or something?

This behavior is also part of Motif and IBM's CUA.  I haven't heard of
Microsoft trying to patent "look and feel" things anyway.

------------
Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
From: vernon@zycad.com (Vernon Lee - MP)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: IPX refresh problem: solution
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:35:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Zycad Corporation,  Menlo Park, CA

Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:52:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep8.235243.8424@zycad.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

A while back I posted a question about a problem I was having with
my new IPX in X.  The problem was that when I moved windows around
under X with twm or mwm, their contents were not getting redrawn,
both in opaque and transparent move.

I got two replies.  The first suggested there was an X patch that
I needed for the IPX display to work.  We got all the patches for
X11R5 and recompiled (using gcc) and still had the problem.

The other reply I received said he had experienced the same problem
and recompiling with a higher revision of gcc solved the problem.
(we were using gcc 1.4).  After recompiling with the Sun cc, the
problem went away!  Things work fine now (so far :-)  We are going
to try gcc 2.1 eventually.

Thanks for all the replies I got.  Maybe this should be put in the
FAQ.


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Vernon Lee
Internet: vernon@zycad.com		Uucp: ...!sun!zycad!vernon
From: gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Stack Traceback program wanted
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:05:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO

Date: 10 Sep 92 15:24:18 GMT
Message-Id: <BuDC4J.D4A@solbourne.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.unix.questions,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep9.193434.2713@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>(judging from my weight, adb would probably go out of memory :-). But
>seriously, what we have in mind is really to compile such a function in
>our program and do it 'on demand' every time it crashes, so we can have
>a log of what happened. 
>
>We can always ask the users to run a utility on the core file and see
>what happens afterwards... maybe a little script to examine core and 
>do the $c command.
>

I know what you want; many Fortran compilers do this, print a
traceback when the program exits abnormally. I've never seen a C or
C++ program which does this automatically.

Solbourne's "pdb" debugger comes with a utility "ct" for "core
traceback"; here's a simple example of its use:

unix % ni dump
Abort (core dumped)
unix % ct
Core for program: ni
killing signal: SIGABRT 6: abort
Reading symbolic information for ni
Reading symbolic information for /opt/SUNWste/SC2.0/libC.so
Reading symbolic information for /usr/lib/libc.so.1
Reading symbolic information for /usr/lib/libdl.so.1
0xef764d78 _kill()+0x8
0x10e30 main()+0x1cc item.C:47
0x109fc _start()+0x5c

Similar functionality can be obtained from any debugger; ct is just a
quick and dirty way of avoiding debugger startup time.  If you're
interested in ct or pdb, contact Solbourne telesales at (303) 678-4626.
These products run on Sparc machines only.

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/ Andy Gerber		     / gerber@solbourne.com               /
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From: brian@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca (Brian J. Murrell")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: cannot connect to remote server ??
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:42:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: InterLinx Support Services Inc.

Date: 9 Sep 92 02:44:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.024437.8085@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Having just build X11R5 on one of our machines, I want to run
some clients on a remote server.  The problem is that when the 
client tries to connect to the server the connect gets refused,
because the "connect" to the "X server port" on the workstation
refuses the connection.

This seems to be case of the server not allowing any remote clients.

What do I have to do to the server to let it allow remote clients.

I'v already done 

xhost +<remote machine name>

and don't know how to use xauth.  Anything else I should do??

brian
-- 
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InterLinx Support Services, Inc.                        uunet!van-bc!ilinx!brian
North Vancouver, B.C.
        Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
From: rlk@Think.COM (Robert L Krawitz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: reliable signals under BSD / SVR4
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:10:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:26:32 EDT
Message-Id: <9209042126.AA18883@underprize.think.com>

   In <1992Sep3.231707.17858@noao.edu> rstevens@noao.edu (W. Richard Stevens) writes:

   >>Come to think of it, doesn't it make it somewhat "tricky" to use
   >> async. I/O at all?

   >I've yet to find a real application that actually uses BSD's SIGIO.
   >Has anyone seen one?

GNU Emacs did in the X10 days, and I don't know that it's changed since.
From: cjw@dme.nt.gov.au (Chris Wharton)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: scaling fonts
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:12:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Northern Territory Department of Mines & Energy

Date: 11 Sep 92 01:54:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.105400.3748@darwin.ntu.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Could some-one give me an idea how I can scale a font
in XLib ? I can do it using Xview, however it only allows
for four sizes, and I need about 40. 
Would I have to load 40 different instances of the font
at the begining, or can I just resize the existing one
on the fly ? 

Any help or comments appreciated (preferably email).

- Chris.
From: marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Trouble setting Athena menu resources
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:21:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

Date: 9 Sep 92 16:27:25 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.112725.8875@hemlock.cray.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hi People,

I have an application written with Wcl which uses Athena widgets.  I have a
menu which I set up with a number of SmeBSBs: but for the first, none has
a label or callback set -- the aim is to fill in these values when the
application is run, according to the contents of a .xxxrc file.  

So I read the file and use its contents to set the 'label' resource for the 
SmeBSB and make sure the 'sensitive' resource is True.  I also add a callback
for the SmeBSB widget.  The remaining SmeBSBs (for which there were no .xxxrc 
file entries) are given the label "not defnied" and are set insensitive.  The 
setting of these resource is done with XtSetValues.  The problem: none of the 
resources seems to be set!

Is there a problem with Athena menus whereby they cannot be altered `on the
fly'?  I even tried creating the widgets dynamically with XtCreateManagedWidget
and attempted to hang them from the SimpleMenu widget, also without success.

I can't see that I'm doing anything wrong: my code looks perfectly fine.
Can anyone shed any light please?

Cheers,

[M][a][r][c]
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:46:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

Date: 7 Sep 92 22:27:46 GMT
Message-Id: <37783@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.human-factors,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

>but that file might have unprintable characters in it, or it might not
>be a postscript file at all.. you see the computer knows best.

Right :-) Postscript knows enough not to crash the printer.
It's not the same as sending a binary file to a QIC printer
or anything...

>( In this case I would be tempted to sit down and write that special
>program, and charge the time wasted to apple for not supplying a
>reasonable interface )

But all the program needs to do is pass everything through verbatim.
(A fancy version would just check the first two characters first,
and if not postcript, run it through a text to postscript filter.)

A nice interface would be to drag the file to the printer icon and drop.
It should handle *any* format, including Postscript, or formats for programs
you don't have (lots of doc files out there that make assumptions about
what wordprocessor you have).

-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
  - Grad school - just say no.
From: cristy@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Cristy)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XPutPixel and and XGetPixel and image layout
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:02:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:36:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.153639.14929@eplrx7.es.duPont.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep9.130723.9938@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>Re: The discussion about using images directly rather than going
>    through XPutPixel.
>
>I also would like to simply load the raw data into an array and
>display it in a window - simple no?

Simple yes...  Look at routine XMakeImage in X.c of contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z
on export.lcs.mit.edu.  It loads image data directly to an X image without
XPutPixel.  It handles all depths, byte orders, visuals, etc.  Been using
it for 4 years now without any problems.
-- 
cristy@dupont.com
From: bardo@ief-paris-sud.fr (Bardo Muller)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: _XrmPermStringToQuark ??
Date: 13 Sep 92 08:10:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Universite de Paris

Date: 12 Sep 92 17:02:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep12.170247.15782@greco-prog.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.intrinsics

Dear readers,

while trying to install an application (xgopher) I came up with
a (at least for me) rather cryptic message during runtime:

bardo@gonzales> ld.so: Undefined symbol: _XrmPermStringToQuark

I tried the X11R4 option, it doesn't change. Help! Please e-mail.


Merci

Bardo
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From: mill6852@mstr.hgc.edu (glenn miller)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Motif
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:09:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:08:28 EDT
Message-Id: <9209151708.AA01295@outland.hgc.edu>


I would like to use Motif on a Sun sparc, could someone
tell me 'how to get Motif'. How much does it cost?
The other problem is that some of our users would like to
use Suns openlook, so can Motif & OpenLook peacefully 
co-exist. We would need Motif for X11R4.

Thanks for any suggestions
Todd Miller
From: ajs@msdrl.com (Anthony Starks)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Transparent overlay client?
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:56:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories

Date: 9 Sep 92 13:05:26 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.130526.28033@msdrl.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm looking for a X client that functions as a full-page transparent ruler.
Any takers?
From: rrybacki@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Richard M. Rybacki)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Getting ButtonPress from another client's window
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:12:22 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Date: 14 Sep 92 15:19:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep14.151900.12997@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hello,
  I am writing a window manager and would like the user to be able to
assign focus to a client by clicking anywhere in the client.  As it
stands now, the user is forced to click on the decoration border window
under which the client has been reparented.  According to the Xlib
Programming Manual Vol I., "Only one client can select button events
on any one window at a time, due to the grab that automatically takes
place."  But mwm has been able to achieve this functionality.  Any
ideas?

Thanks.
-- 
                            Richard M. Rybacki
                       rrybacki@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
                              (512) 731-0000
                          "Will consult for food"
From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: strange ordering of fonts in the R5 font server...
Date: 7 Sep 92 07:29:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

Date: 7 Sep 92 06:19:56 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep7.061956.2735@cs.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

When I do:  xlsfonts -fn "-*-courier-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1"
I get the following result on my SUN:

-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-0-100-100-m-0-iso8859-1
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-0-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-iso8859-1
-bitstream-courier-medium-r-normal--18-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

The ``native'' 18 point courier-medium-r-normal font is 75dpi.
(If I do: xlsfonts | grep courier-medium-r-normal--18, all I
get is -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-iso8859-1.)
Consequently, the 100dpi font is ugly because it's scaled.  Is there
any way I can reorder the fonts returned by the font server so that
the font corresponding to the native dpi is chosen first?
-- 
Bill Cheng // UCLA Computer Science Department // (310) 575-4507
3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
william@CS.UCLA.EDU      ...!{uunet|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!william
From: bis@ifi.uio.no (Bjorn Ivar Stark)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Tools for writing X/Motif application.
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:25:59 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway

Date: 7 Sep 92 10:18:22 GMT
Message-Id: <BIS.92Sep7111822@maud.ifi.uio.no>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I need a adequate tool for writing a program that involves the
following:

1) Display of 2D graphics (maps) in Motif/X-windows

2) Ability to read the mouse-cursor position related to the
coordinates on the map described in 1)

Any hints of what tools to use would be mostly welcomed.
--
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From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 15 Sep 92 07:17:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC

Date: 14 Sep 92 16:31:57 GMT
Message-Id: <id.0A8T.E8H@ferranti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors,alt.religion.computers,comp.editors

In article <YANDROS.92Sep13021857@hodge.MIT.EDU> yandros@Athena.MIT.EDU (Chad Phillip Brown) writes:
> These both seem like things that could have been added to the base of
> the OS, but weren't for reasons that are entirely unclear to me.  Can
> someone help me with this?

64K of ROM and 128K of RAM.

I've *got* a thin Mac. It's amazing what it can do with nothing. Bit of a
dancing bear (my son uses it to play with MacPaint), but it *does* work.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.                                    'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012
+1 713 274 5180                                   Har du kramat din varg idag?
From: taylor@foraker.tivoli.com (Eric Taylor)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Transparent windows
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:10:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: TIVOLI Systems, Inc.

Date: 10 Sep 92 18:55:23 GMT
Message-Id: <3977@tivoli.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9209081631.AA04622@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>, ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU (Lisa Dawes, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville) writes:
|> 
|> How are transparent window backgrounds created and/or implemented.
|> Is there a color index for transparent colors.  Where is a good 
|> source of documentation concerning this?


There are no transparent windows in X or transparent colors :-(
There are, however :
	shaped windows
	windows with no background

The last is rather misleading and usually useless.
A window with no background merely gets the values of pixels that were
already there.

Shaped windows are not well documented.  In fact, the last I checked,
there were no man pages :-(.  The header files, src, and example programs
seem to be the only documentation.
From: ft7@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xplot info wanted ...
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:02:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Cornell University

Date: 8 Sep 92 15:54:10 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep8.115410.14802@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Would anyone know if xplot is a public domain software? If so, where 
could I get it from?
Thanks in advance.
Sunil

---sunil@khan.tam.cornell.edu
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Performance meter : where can I get it from ?
Date: 12 Sep 92 07:55:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SETT Inc.

Date: 11 Sep 92 13:40:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.134047.23411@evb.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I need a good performance meter (CPU usuage and other things if
possible) for my solbourne. any recommendations are welcome (public
domain packages).

please respond by email.

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Windows of 386's, which Unices work
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:51:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada

Date: 11 Sep 92 05:35:29 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.053529.12073@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hello all,

I *sincerely* hope I'm not asking a FAQ for the 60 millionth
time :-)  

Can anyone tell me of a free (or inexpensive) Unix which will
run the MIT distribution X Windows.  I talked to SCO but I
had to tell them that I must eat and pay phone bills every
so often.  If any such Unices exist, I would appreciate a 
brief list of Pros and Cons.

Many thanks,

C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
From: einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:56:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 9 Sep 92 13:41:19 GMT
Message-Id: <5292@krafla.rhi.hi.is>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.human-factors,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

In <1992Sep9.043446.17852@wam.umd.edu> marauder@wam.umd.edu (Joe Jacobson) writes:

>It's obvious you people haven't seen God's gift to GUI's: namely NeXTSTEP.
>(That's the GUI for the NeXT's computers.  Steve Jobs second gift to the world;
							      ^^^^
>the first being Macintosh, of course).

As in poison?


--
einari@rhi.hi.is
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Attention Earthlings -- Cross-Vendor X11 Server Mess!
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:59:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 22:02:44 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep8.220244.792@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps

In article <BZS.92Sep7182835@ussr.std.com>, bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
> From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
>> The keyboard doesn't generate both a and A.  It generates events for
>> the shift key and events for the A key.  It is the client's job,
>> typically via XLookupString, to convert A-key-with-shift-down into
>> an "A" character and A-key-with-shift-up into an "a" character.

> From xev tracing (RS6000):

> KeyRelease event, serial 15, synthetic NO, window 0x1000001,
>     root 0x8006b, subw 0x0, time 2939252975, (7,71), root:(18,105),
>     state 0x0, keycode 39 (keysym 0x61, a), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 1 characters:  "a"

> KeyPress event, serial 15, synthetic NO, window 0x1000001,
>     root 0x8006b, subw 0x0, time 2939255405, (7,71), root:(18,105),
>     state 0x1, keycode 39 (keysym 0x41, A), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 1 characters:  "A"

> Notice that although LookupString() returns "a" and "A" respectively,
> as you predicted, and the shift key is noted (state 0x0 vs 0x1) it
> still thought that the KeySym needed to be changed for each event for
> the same keycode (0x61 vs 0x41.)

The KeySym is not carried in the event.  It is returned by
XLookupString, and xev is printing it in a somewhat confusing place, as
if it were part of the event.  The Xlib definition of a KeyPress or
KeyRelease event contains (besides boilerplate members that all events
contain):

- The root window of the screen
- The child of the event window that contains the source window, if any
- The pointer position relative to the event window
- The pointer position relative to the root
- The modifier state
- The keycode
- A flag indicating whether two of the windows are on the same screen

Notice that there are no KeySyms.  The KeySym is one of the things
returned by XLookupString.  (Check out the protocol document's
definition of the event, too, and you'll see that there really aren't
any KeySyms around.)

> It's not "do I get a reasonable response when I push this key", it's
> "can I anticipate what I will get when keys are pressed".

Unless the "I" is different, I don't see much difference.

> If you're still having trouble with the distinction, imagine that
> what your application is trying to do is set the XLookupString() for
> all the possible keysyms (e.g. change the type-in font.)

Hm?  Fonts are a display issue.  All the way from the keyboard through
the returned values from XLookupString, fonts are completely
irrelevant.  (I'm also not sure what you mean by "set the
XLookupString()", especially since "all the possible keysyms" is an
enormous number; even if you stick to the Consortium-standard ones in
keysymdef.h, it's still a very large list.)

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu