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From: dragon@angus.mi.org (John Lussmyer)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Q:What is the burst rate?
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:26:15 GMT
Reply-To: dragon@angus.mi.org
Organization: North Star BBS

koh@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Jean Koh) writes:

> Hi!
> I am a novice to CD-ROM drive.
> I saw you guys talking about the data transfer rates.
> It's about ~160kb/s, ~320kb/s, and ~640kb/s.
> Then, what is the burst rate 1.5Mb/s?
> 
> I thought when making MPEG I, they considered the data transfer rate
> of CD-ROM, 1.5Mb/s.
> What I like to know is whether I can use CD-ROM drive with MPEG real-time
> hardware which needs 1.5Mb/s input stream.
> It will be greatly appreciated if you let me know about it ASAP.

The best you will get from a CD-ROM for data rate for large blocks is
the (150/300/600) K/Sec.  The burst rate is the xfer rate for a small
block that is in the drive's cache.  (Usually 8-64K at best).  If your
MPEG hardware requires a steady data stream at 1.5MByte/S, you won't
get it from a CD-ROM.  (Make sure whether you need 1.5MByte or MBit/sec,
if it is MBit, 300KByte is enough to do it.)

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From: mwk20@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael W Knowles)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Info needed on Texel Model 3021 CD-ROM Drive
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: mwk20@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Michael W Knowles)
Distribution: alt.cd-rom
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Anyone out there having difficulty with the Texel Model 3021
CD-ROM drive?  I recently produced a CD of some field publications
as a test; the CDs (ISO 9660, used with a MS Windows viewing
package) work on all other drives we've tested EXCEPT the Texel.

Just curious if anyone else is experiencing occasional difficulties.

--Michael
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From: Brian Finley <finley@dinah.lerc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Zero Length Files
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 21:35:38 GMT
Organization: Sverdrup Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:29:38 GMT

We are archiving data on CD and some of the files are of zero size, but
we still want the filenames in the directory.  The trouble is that the
MAC does not "see" the file of size zero and will not show any files in
the directory past the zero file.  If there are 100 files on the CD and
the third one is of size zero then the MAC thinks there are only two
files on the CD.  Is a file size of zero in violation of the ISO-9660
spec?  The quick fix is to put a byte in the file but I want to know why
the PC CD reader has no problem with it but the mac does.  We are using
the toshiba model TXM3301 CD reader on both machines.  I talked to
toshiba to see if it was a driver problem but they, of course, said it
wasn't and that the CD manufacturer didn't make the cd properly
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From: achim@guam.vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Achim Karpf)
Subject: CD-Roms Drivers?
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:54:45 GMT

Hello World,

I just became owner of an Toshiba XM 3301 BC. Now the big question is, who
to connect it to my Amiga and also be able to use the Photo CD capabilities.
So I want to know:

- Is there Software for this task on the Amiga
- Is there Software for the PC (I think I heard of a program called Photo Vision)
- And last not least, where do I get it and which firm produces it.

I would be thankfull for any kind of answer, and I want to use it.

				ABC I


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From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Grolier on the net?
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

DL>Can anyone tell me whether the company producing the Grolier CDROM
DL>are on the net? I've been waiting for an upgrade to my version 1
DL>for the mac for months (yes, I am a registered owner, and they have
DL>credit card details!) and I keep getting the runaround when I call
DL>them. And trans-Atlantic calls aint cheap.. whereas firing off an
DL>email every morning would not only be a pleasure, but might actually
DL>work!

I understand that the 1.5 version is just now out, so you should be getting
some results fairly soon. Patience.

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From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Anyone use Sun's CD-ROM drive on PC with SCSI card?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:32:05 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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Heinz Naef (whna@ciba-geigy.ch) wrote:
: In article <1514@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> splee@pd.org (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy)
: writes:
: >Has anyone succedded in using Sun's CD-ROM reader on a PC with a SCSI
: >board? Does it work with the supplpied CD-ROM driver?
: >
: At my home PC, I connected a SunCD drive to an Adaptec AHA-1542b SCSI host
: adapter. The ASPI manager ASPI4DOS (Version 3.0a) lists the CD drive as
: "SONY CDU-1802 3.1a".
: 
: I then loaded the Adaptec driver ASPCDSNY.SYS (don't remember Version) and
: MSCDEX Version 2.1. Everything looked perfect. I was also able to activate
: the DOS drive associated with the CD filesystem. But then, a DIR failed
: with "... not a ISO 9660 or High Sierra filesystem". This is probably
: because ASPCDSNY.SYS doesn't explicitly support the CDU-1802.
: 
: However, I was able to install Microsoft Windows NT from the CD in the
: SunCD drive!! The Adaptec driver on the Windows NT installation disk
: seems to be more flexible ...

More likely it's because the Sun CDROM's default to 512byte sectors,
while most CD drives, and most software, expect the standard 2048
sectors.

There might (should) be a switch or berg jumper to change the default.

The NT driver, and possibly Unix drivers, might not care.

sdw
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From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: OS/2 success stories?
Keywords: cd-rom OS/2
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:56:12 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

Why not reject the drives since they were not shipped with os/2 device
drivers for the controller card?q
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From: jww@anchor.eng.hou.compaq.com (Jeff Wolford)
Subject: Which CD-ROM Controller to use ? Experiences wanted
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:26:40 GMT

There seem to be a number of CD-ROM controllers available and in 
general I figure to buy the controller and CD-ROM drive as a package
to minimize compatibility problems.

But what type of CD-ROM controller do I want to look for ?

There are a number of controllers:

	1) dedicated proprietary SCSI controllers,
	2) Sound Blaster Pro
	3) Sound Blaster Pro compatible
	4) Others ?

What's the scoop ?

Who has good software support after the sale (i.e. who is continuing to
	update their drivers and has them available for download ) ?

Who has a good support organization or good support BBS ?

I don't have a sound board yet, but if I get a CD-ROM I want to get
some bird call/animal call CD's and then I think I want a CD-ROM

Please help a knowledgeable PC person get into the CD-ROM area and not
get stung.

Jeff

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From: jhs@ipsa.reuter.com (Henri Schueler)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: ISO 9660 - but not PC readable?
Date: 20 Dec 92 16:41:27 GMT
Organization: H&h Software, Toronto, Ontario

I have some ISO 9660 CDs that are meant for use with non-PCs (e.g. Sun and
Mac). I cannot *read* these on my PC. Can someone explain why? 
Am I correct in assuming this is an MSCDEX limitation of some kind -- 
or does it relate to my CDrom drive, an Hitach 3600.

Is there any software that will let me browse through such CDs?

/jhs
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.system
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Mac: ISO 9660 discs never shareable?
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:09:00 GMT


Am I right in thinking that File Sharing is intrinsically impossible
for ISO 9660 discs?  Is this just because of insufficient per-file
information on the disc, or does it apply to all volumes accessed via
Foreign File Access, or even to all External File Systems?
I.e., could one define a convention for ISO 9660 discs to contain
extra Mac info (as Rock Ridge extends it to contain extra Posix info)
and then import these discs via FST/FFA and use File Sharing?
(Not that I want to do such a thing, I just want to be clear why exactly
File Sharing is prevented...)

Thanks in advance.
From: hjanssen@amiganet.chi.il.us (Hank Janssen)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Are there any CD-Roms about National forrests.????
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:56:50 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems


The title pretty much says it all. I got a CD-ROM from eduquest (my spelling
must be lightyears off. :-)) that shas most if not all state parks on it in
multimedia/windows format. 
I was wondering, does anybody know about the exsistence of such a disk with the
national forrests on it.?????? 

I would be really interested in it.

Thanx for your help......

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From: mclement@access.digex.com (That k-Rad Hacker!)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: CD-ROMs, Drives for sale
Date: 19 Dec 1992 06:35:22 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

I am selling:
  
  CD-ROM Drives
    * Internal
    * External

  CD-ROM Discs
    * Clip Art
    * Adult XXX-Rated
    * Educational
    * Business
    * Shareware libraries
    * Games

Please send e-mail to mclement@digex.com if interested.

Thanks.
From: dcole@ua.d.umn.edu (david cole)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: HELP!  Looking for info on Sony 31A
Date: 19 Dec 1992 07:16:14 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Dec18.132634.17440@pt.com> kcc@pt.com (Kevin Chalker) writes:
>
>Can anyone tell me the specs on the Sony 31A CD-ROM?  I'd like
>to know the access time, the buffer size and whether it is
>CD-ROM XA ready.  Thanks in advance.

490 msec, 64k, yes

Have you looked at the reviews in PC Mag?

>Kevin
>kcc@pt.com


Dave

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:26:57 -0500 
From: Li-Kang Chen <lc2p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Sony CDU-535 problem


Hi,

    I installed Sony CDU-535 about 4 monthes ago.  It was working fine. 
But  when I try to use it yesterday, it rejected all cd-roms (i.e. caddy
with cd-rom won't even be able to stay in the drive).  When I start
windows, windows gave me a error saying system error cannot read from
drive S: (my cd-rom drive).  The strange thing is it did take all audio
cd, and I was able to play them, too.   Why the drive won't take any
non-audio cd?  

Thanks,

-Li
lc2p@andrew.cmu.edu

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From: OPERCRT@TULSAJC.BITNET
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: OPERCRT@TULSAJC.bitnet
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:21:05 GMT

Hi!  I need some opinions!
I am in the market for a multimedia encyclopedia for my kids and have heard
that the Groliers new multimedia ecyclopedia for windows, is the best.
 I am not so interested in bells, whistles, and flash though
thats ok, as I am in the encyclopedia with the most information. For
instance the encyclopedia in Bookshelf tells about the gettysburg
address but doesnt have the speech itself.  Heck with multimedia I almost
expect to hear Abe himself reading it!
                                    thanks
                                              John A. Edmiston
                                              opercrt@tulsajc.bitnet
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From: PAOLIVER@INDYVAX.BITNET
Subject: Re: Problem w/ Kodak Photo-CD
Reply-To: PAOLIVER@INDYVAX.bitnet
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:20:40 GMT

  I have the misfortune to own a Diamond Stealth VRAM. I've tried the
card you have. Diamond is unable to make bug free software and/or
hardware. I frequently encounter Windows driver problems with the
Diamond product, so don't be too quick to blame Kodak.
  Also keep in mind that 8M of RAM is nothing when dealing with 18M
of video image. Some paint programs keep a duplicate around for
undos; so maybe as big as 36M! Virtual memory is no substitute for the
real thing when it comes to scrolling around with giant bitmaps.
  Tiling algorithms attempt to compensate for limited RAM with
such bitmaps, but take some thinking to code (not tremendously so but
above average) and hence are likely not used in 99% of the paint or
display programs that you'll use; of course this is also a function of
the way the data is stored, leading back to a prior discussion that Kodak
won't touch with a ten foot pole.
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Q: Electronic Book Standard
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:36:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.004008.29583@omega.ssw.de> av@omega.ssw.de (Andreas Vogel) writes:
:
:I've bought an Electronic Book here in Germany. It's an 80mm CD-ROM and
:I've managed to read it with my NEC CDR84 drive.
:
:Now the question: I'm searching for any info about Electronic Book
:coding standards. I'm not sure but I've thought the standard was introduced
:by SONY.

It's a proprietary format released only under non-disclosure agreement.
You'll have to reverse-engineer it yourself.

(Don't worry, it's not that difficult.  And the pictures are trivial)

G
From: quayle@switch.rockwell.com (Bill Quayle)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: mitsumi and soundblaster
Keywords: did it, it don't work
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:28:07 GMT
Reply-To: quayle@switch.rockwell.com
Distribution: alt
Organization: Switching Systems Division - Rockwell International

In article <1992Dec14.4084.964@dosgate>, "david shadoff" <david.shadoff@canrem.com> writes:
|> In message <1992Dec12.213021.26047#newstand.syr.edu>,
|> kkingsto@erc.cat.syr.edu (Karl Kingston) writes:
|> 
|> >I have a Mitsumi internal CD drive which works rather well.   I was thinking
|> >about getting a soundblaster Pro one of these days and was wondering if they
|> >could co-exist.  A salesman says I need to connect the ribbon cable to the
|> >SB rather than to the card provided with the CD.
|> 
|> Never trust a salesman.  Even if the ribbon cables were the same size
|> and shape, there is no reason to believe that the electrical, timing,
|> and software control characteristics (not to mention the software
|> drivers) for these beasts are compatible.  You could easily damage
|> something.  The best bet is to write away to *BOTH* manufacturers to
|> ask whether (a) they can co-exist, (b) whether you need to remove the
|> CD-ROM driver card you have now, and (c) if the salesman's advice was
|> correct (which I doubt).
|> 
|>  - Dave
|>  
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I've done it, and have had no luck.  I took a chance and connected the
Mitsumi CD to my SB-pro and was unable to use either one.  I AM currently
using a Future Domain controller for the CD with the SB-pro and it works
fine.  You can connect the audio from the CD to the CB-pro audio and every
thing works as expected.  I suspect that the SB-pro has an (undocumented)
jumper for enabling the CD-ROM connection.

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From: acooper@nuustak.csir.co.za (Antony Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CDROM ATLAS recommendations?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 12:36:29 +0200
Organization: CSIR, South AFrica
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X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed below are purely personal
X-Disclaimer: and in no way represent the official view of CSIR.

Thus spake joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  ):

>runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:

>> As a side question, is a CD-ROM world atlas worth it?  Considering that
>> the CD-ROM atlas that I got (OK, it was surplus and only cost $10.00),
>> was fairly out of date.  The statistics were from 1987 or so, and it
>> still showed the USSR and the two Germanies.  I can see using CD-ROM for
>> shareware programs because I'll want a stable place to pull the programs
>> from if I have to re-install, but for something like Almanacs, Atlases,
>> and record books?
>> 
>> Maybe I'm just the only one who feels this way.  Or perhaps I'm unaware
>> that the Atlas programs use the CD-ROM as a base reference with disk-based 
>> update files that the user can purchase to `update' the map images.

The big problem is the existence of up-to-date maps of the world, never
mind the existence of up-to-date digital geographical information. A
significant amount of the world is not mapped at scales of 1:100 000 and
larger, never mind the age of such mapping. Unfortunately, it is an
expensive and time-comsuming task to capture such information.

>In the long term it will actually be cheaper to update a CD-ROM
>reference than a paper reference. A CD-ROM only costs about $1.50 to
>make. I doubt if any hardback or large paperback can be printed for
>that much. I suspect even the cheap newsprint used in the World
>Almanac costs more than that. Eventually they will produce new
>editions every year like they do they do the paper versions once they
>can start producing them in really large quantities.

Undoubtably, it will be cheaper to produce updated maps on CD-ROM. Currently,
the Digital Chart of the World (DCW) appears to be the most comprehensive
set of digital geographical information on the whole world. The DCW data are
at a scale of 1:1 000 000, but it would appear that its interface is not
the most user-friendly. It is available for $200.00 from:
    U S Geological Survey
    Distribution Center
    Building 810
    Box 25286
    Denver, Colorado 80225
    USA

By the way, if you are interested in digital maps and the like, you should
subscribe to the Usenet newsgroup, comp.infosystems.gis, which discusses
geographical information systems (GIS), digital geographical information,
and so on.

Antony
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From: kcc@pt.com (Kevin Chalker)
Subject: HELP!  Looking for info on Sony 31A
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:26:34 GMT


Can anyone tell me the specs on the Sony 31A CD-ROM?  I'd like
to know the access time, the buffer size and whether it is
CD-ROM XA ready.  Thanks in advance.


Kevin
kcc@pt.com


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From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Re: Mac CD-ROM driver for Sun CD-ROM
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:05:14 GMT

Are you sure the drive reports itself over SCSI as being a "CDU-8513"
instead of a "CDU-8012" ?

Either way, Apples driver could (illegally) support if if you merely
changed a reference in the driver extension from trying to match the ASCII
pattern "8002" to "8513" (or is the device probably really related to the
8003 instead of the 8002? Nah, its probably an 8002 work-alike.


Bill Williams