From: lwang@mariner.amc.edu.au (Lou  Wang)
Subject: Re: Is Zhu Rongji a conservative
Organization: Australian Maritime College
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:58:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.165733.11129@unixg.ubc.ca>, wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) writes:
>
>In article <9209151514.AA24768@janus.ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>>
>>When Li Peng called for a modest economic growth,
>>he was called a "conservative" and a bad guy.

>>When the "reformer" Deng Xiaoping called for speedy development,
>>everyone including dissidents applauded.
>>
>>Now the "good guy" "reformer" Zhu Rongji calls for a slow down.
>>Is he still a reformer?  How about Wang Bingqian.
>>
>>A deeper issue I've been trying to address: is Deng's
>>campaign (typical CCP movement) style in developing
>>economy really good for China?
>>>              * * *  C h i n a   N e w s   D i g e s t  * * *
>>2. Vice-premier Zhu Rongji Warning on "Runaway" Economy .................45
>>3. Former Finance Minister Wang Bingqian Urges Economic Slowdown ........45
>

>from 89 to 92.  He did well no matter how much we do not like him.
>China's economy cannot be controlled buy either conservative or reformer
>alone.  These two sides work just like opposition parties in western
>countries.  The goal of ecomomic growth was very healthy at the beginning


>big say in world economy though it does not need high GNP per capital.
>Deng Xiaoping is a trouble maker.  He is doing something like Mao did
>in 1958, the BIG LEAP.  Short cut does not mean faster, in Chinese:

 
>the growth, they will feel bad soon.  Zhu Rongji is doing the right
>thing.  Li Peng did the right thing on econ. last few years.  Deng
>Xiaopin did something wrong.  He should be a real retiree.  Please
>




>F. Wang
There are two sets of lables which have been used quite often by the western
and oversea chinese media, and chinese scholars when they describe the main landchina affair. There are 
		reformists(gai1 ge2 pai3) and conservatists(bao1 shou2 pai3)
		right and wrong

These lables are quite straightforward. But they are superficial and misleading.If you look at the political cyclicity in China, you would find that the labels have been attached onto the leadership figures are in a periodic changing mood.
Deng XiaoPing in 50's and 60's was a typical conservatist; However, Deng, Li
Xian Nian and Chen Yun were reformists in late 70's. When it came to late80's,
Li and Chen become convervatists again. In 80's, Deng kept changing his color.
When Hu and Zhao showed their liberal attitude to eco.reform, Deng become
a conservatist. There are so many examples like this.
In fact, the labels such as reform and conservatism are not accurate, at least
they are not appropriate for politics in china. The "reformists" turn you down
from time to time, however, quite often you find yourself in a awkward position
to have to give credit to those "conservatists.
F.Wang gave a very good example in his article. Labels have been wrongly used.
As simple as that.
In addition, there is another related set of lables. They are right and wrong.
Chinese people are politically naive. They like to label people as good guy 
and bad guy. It migh work in day to day life. But it won't work in politics.
Chinese people enjoy to watch the good guy defeats bad guys. That is why
they like Hua Guo Fen crashed dwon  of 'Gang of Four', and Deng's political 
inspection tour of the southern china early this year to fightback with 
Chen Yun.
Yes, in the shor run, you might have some sensational 'victory' because you like good guys. But in the long run, you loose out. Because the best way to secure
your political future is to keep the 'bad guy' there. Over time, those 'bad guy'
will develop into political opposition. As people, you should get used to 
let 'bad guy' to exist. 
Devil fights with Devil, that is DEMOCRACY all about.
Luo Wang

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