HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow)
Subject: Re: Cordless phones
Organization: Technology News, IIT, Chicago, IL
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 02:47:07 GMT

In article <7-PCNews-120beta@hart.actrix.gen.nz> graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart) writes:
)eb@lucid.com (Eric Benson @ Lucid, Inc., Menlo Park, CA) once wrote....
)>I'm looking for recommendations on cordless phones.  Basically,
)>everyone I know who owns a cordless phone hates it.  The sound quality
)>is terrible.  Is this just something one lives with?  I've noticed a
)>few recent models in the stores claiming to work in the 900 Mhz band.
)>Are these really better than the 49 Mhz models?  They are a lot more
)>expensive, like $300-400 instead of $70-150.  Spending that much isn't
)>out of the question, but I'm wary of new technology.  They claim to
)>have greater range, but I'm not so concerned with range, I'm more
)>concerned with the irritating, constant buzz on the line.  Also, I'd
)>like to have one that's comfortable to hold, and most cordless phones
)>are very bulky.  A few of them have the "flip-out" shirt-pocket
)>cellular style.  This is more convenient for transportation, but how
)>is it in actual use?  Has anyone tried connecting a hands-free headset
)>to a cordless phone?

There is one company that makes a CORDLESS headset, but you can't dial from it
[more response below]
)
)I have a Panasonic cordless phone and have no problems.  It is called an
)"Easa-Phone", and the hand set model no is KX-T3000BAR.
)
)It's also quite handy as it is the "flip-out" type you describe.  It was 
)expensive (3-4 times the cost of other 'phones), but there is no problem
)with line noise, until you get more than about 300 metres from the base
)unit.
)
)The "flip out" type is really easy to use.  When it rings, you push a
)release button on the side, it flips open, and automatically takes the
)phone "off-hook" so you can talk to the person.  
)
)Reception is so good, I usually don't bother to extend the aerial :)
)
)I think this model has been replaced now, as mine is about 3 years old,
)but I'm sure the replacement is equally good.
)
)Graeme

The newer KXT-4000 is VERY nice. It resembles the 3000 except that it has a
small rubber antenna, which pops up when you press the release button. It
also has VERY good sound quality, and good range. IMHO the best feature is the
spare battery which charges in the base. In addition:

10 autodial buttons work from base or handset
speakerphone/intercom on handset
security codes (2 switches on the back (10 codes?) of the base, handset is
automatically programmed with the code when placed in the charger.

-- 
        WARNING: Extremely Flammable. Keep away from heat, open flame,
                 and the alt.sex.* newsgroups.

technews@iitmax.iit.edu                           kadokev@harpo.iit.edu
                         My Employer Disagrees.
From: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima) 
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Buffalo Wings
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima) 

  This is the biggest coincidence, but a friend was over today, and the 
subject of buffalo wings came up.  I told him how I saw a bunch of 
messages on the net, but I didn't have any of them saved.  He would really 
appreciate getting a recipe for buffalo wings if someone can still has it. 
Please e-mail if at all possible
Thanks in advance....

Reza
reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp <-use this one, if mail gets bounced use 
magicianwc@aol.com <-this one

--- WinQwk 1.10a #0
                                         
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,sci.med,sci.med.physics
From: perez@mgr.hjf.org (Charles Perez)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.discrimination,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:43:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HJF AIDS Research Project, Washington DC

In article <1992Sep11.183119.15009@m.cs.uiuc.edu> kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>so@fortran.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So) writes:
>
>[...]
>>The boycotters are exerting their "fair share" of influence on the business
>>decision of bookstore owners, there is nothing morally wrong with these
>>people.
>[...]
>
>By your argument all boycotts are moral. Would you feel the same about
>this boycott if it's goal was to suppress books by all black authors?
>Would you still say: 'The boycotters are exerting their "fair share"
>of influence on the business decision of bookstore owners, there is
>nothing morally wrong with these people.'?
>
>I oppose this boycott not because I think boycotts are inherently
>immoral, but because I oppose its goals, namely, the suppression of
>material that some people find offensive.

Why do you think boycotts represent force? What a person can do
individually, he can do in concert with others, or are the boycotters
shirking their duty to shop at Waldenbooks?


-- 
==========================================================================
That which is necessary is never evil. If an evil seems necessary, look
to your context; that's where its root lies.  - Charles Perez
==========================================================================
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: pan@panda.Stanford.EDU (Doug Pan)
Subject: Recommendations for Ford/Mercury mechanic needed
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: 5 Sep 92 10:21:40

Can anyone recommend a mechanic for my 83 Mercury Capri close to the
Stanford campus?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Home & Auto Insurance
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:50:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.102206.9354@cbnewse.cb.att.com> hemant@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hemant.b.bhatt) writes:
>What's good coverage for Home & Auto insurance?
>
>Home Insurance
>
>Dwelling - $

Whatever the average of three or more independent appraisals give.

>Dwelling extension -$

Pretty much determined by the company unless it can be proved otherwise.

>personal property - $

See above.
>loss of use - $

See above.

>personal liability - $

Think in worst case scenarios.  Have you ever been sued?

>damage to property of others - $

See above.  I have and luckily I won.

>medical payments to each person - $

See above.

>deductable amount - $

Minimal amount unless you are willing to foot several hundred dollars
on your own.

>
>Auto Insurance
>
>bodily injury/property damage liabilty - $

The max.  Jury awards are  off the wall.

>medical payments - $

For yourself and your family, the minimum if you have insurance through
your employer or spouse's.

>comprehensive - deductable - $

What can you afford for out of pocket expenses.

>collision - deductable - $

Same.

>uninsured motor vehicle - $
>underinsured motor vehicle - $

These are more or less set by the state in which the registration is
effective.

>Emergency Road Service - $
>Car rental & Travel expenses - $ 

Not really necessary.

This is all predicated on where you live.  Some places are higher in
insurance costs due to the various state laws and general cost of 
living.

Dave

Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093

-- 

Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: Computer shopping at shows: advice?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:38:59 GMT

Try to buy from people local to your area.  Sometimes vendors come from
far and wide to sell, and if you have a problem a vendor from afar
(perhaps out of state!) it might make resolving it difficult.

Also, INSPECT BEFORE YOU GO HOME!  
I bought a case in a sealed box, drove forty miles home, only to find
the face cracked.  Luckily, the vendor had a store much closer, so I
exchanged it.  I might have been far less satisfied if the vendor 
disappeared into another state.

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.discrimination,alt.censorship
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:27:02 GMT
Followup-To: misc.consumers

As quoted from <1992Sep8.221558.27101@m.cs.uiuc.edu> by kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie):

> gabriele@aero.org (Mark Gabriele) writes:
> 
> >The ex-manager of the Waldenbooks store who was interviewed by NPR
> >said explicitly that they had no interest in censoring the offensive
> >calendar/date book.  What he wanted to do was remove it from the
> >display,
> [...]
> 
> Removing it from display was still censorship (or more correctly,
> "supression"). I'm enclosing a pointer to the ALA's definition of
> censorship.

I wonder how the supporters of this would feel about a Walden's in the Bible
belt which ONLY removed from display the works of Armisted Maupin, so as not
to condone homosexuality...?


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------  

"Well whose opinions did you THINK these were...?" 
------------------------------------------------------------------  
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:16379 alt.discrimination:4266
From: guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Date: 10 Sep 1992 07:26:51 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bach.crhc.uiuc.edu

halvers@procyon.crd.ge.com (Pete Halverson) writes:


>You neglected to include Mr. Preston's subsequent paragraph, which makes it
>clear that he was not seriously proposing having Mr. Harris' account
>revoked:

It was not necessary. Everyone has read it. I was not, as one poster
put it, selectively editing to change the slant of the article. The
original was there for anyone to read. 


>I don't believe anyone in this thread, except in jest, has suggested
>denying Mr. Harris' ability to boycott Waldenbooks or to persuade others to
>join him, regardless of the pompous stupidity of the idea.

I did not say that any one did. Some have taken my "stomp all over"
phrase to mean "stop him from boycotting" when all I mean is that
they are trashing him. Some pathetic folks even used the word
disgusting. Boogers are disgusting. Open, pus filled wounds are
disgusting. Get a grip.

A boycott is not censorship. It is an attempt to reduce the amount
of money someone will make. If that someone decides that it is
not profitable enough to continue selling, supporting, whatever,
that is a business decision. 

You might argue that the effect is the same. That may be. But
capitulating to the profit line is just plain greed. Rather
than debate the morality of boycotts, I am more concerned at
how easy it is to bend a company to its knees and make them give.

And to the person who said quote the whole text: Screw you. I 
will put as little text in my posts as possible to save bandwidth.
If you don't like it, get a life. This isn't a research journal.

>their generally liberal slant.  Unfortunately it seems as though "Political
>Correctness" takes automatic precedence over freedom of speech or, more

And where in the hell did political correctness come into this!?
You GOP types will do anything to get that loon re-elected.



>Pete Halverson                                      INET: halverson@crd.ge.com 
>GE Corporate R&D Center                       UUCP: uunet!crd.ge.com!halverson
>Schenectady, NY

Hey, I worked their in the summers of 86, 87, and 88.

Stan
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:08:16 GMT
Summary: Kudos.

While we apportion blame and plot our appropriate responses in this
Waldenbooks firing incident, let's take time to appreciate the
integrity of the employees who were fired.  Such exuberant acts of
personal responsibility are becoming all too rare in today's frenzy
of litigation.  We may question the ethical system of people who
won't sell a bad book of jokes while, presumably, stocking worse ones
like "Mein Kampf", but they drew a line and they stuck to it.  If
you did every little thing your employer asked just because he had the
legal right to, why, next thing you know you'd be peeing in a cup.

               *** ***
Ken Perlow   ***** *****
15 Sep 92   ****** ******   29 Fructidor An CC
            *****   *****   gadfly@ihlpa.ATT.COM
             ** ** ** **
...L'AUDACE!   *** ***   TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE!  ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.discrimination,alt.censorship
From: so@fortran.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So)
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:10:21 GMT

In article <70SU03c=817R00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>so@fortran.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So) writes:
>
>}The boycotters are exerting their "fair share" of influence on the business
>}decision of bookstore owners, there is nothing morally wrong with these
>}people.  The boycotters have no moral obligation to patronize businesses
>}whose business practices they do not approve.  Nor do they have the moral
>}obligation to help spread any particular idea.
>
>I disagree strongly.  There is indeed something morally wrong, even morally
>offensive, about people who have as their goal the suppression of material
>that they deem offensive.  ... I do NOT dispute anyone's
>right to boycott anyone or any store for any reason.  But that I support
>someone's right to boycott does not mean that I support the goal of their
>boycott.

At the same time, the fact that you do not approve of the goal of the
boycotters does not mean that the boycotters are morally wrong.

>I agree completely that no one has an obligation to patronize a business nor
>to help spread an idea they disagree with.  However, it is not the case that
>the only other alternative is to attempt to prevent the spread of that idea
                                             ^^^^^^^
>to those who might be receptive to it.  There is a middle ground...

Well, whether the boycotters are "preventing" the spread of the idea
really depends on how you use the word "prevent".  To spread an idea,
an author may need the _voluntary_ collaboration of other people.
This collaboration may be a publisher agreeing to publish the book,
or it may be bookstore owners agreeing to sell the book, or yet it may be
consumers purchasing the book to make publishing the book profitable.
It should be noted that _no one_ owes the author his or her collaboration.

I wouldn't call it "prevention" if any individual decides to exercise
his/her option not to lend the author his/her collaboration.  The author
is free to secure collaboration from people who approve his/her idea.
If the author's idea is not spread because no one is willing to
contribute his/her collaboration, _this_is_fair_game_.

>The person who started this thread has stated explicitly that his desire
>does NOT lie on that middle ground, but rather that he wishes that the
>freedom for everyone to choose for themselves whether or not to read
>such "offensive" (in his opinion) material as this joke calendar be
>removed from existence.  And that is what I find morally objectionable.

I don't recall reading anything from the starter of this thread that
says he wishes the "freedom for everyone to choose for themselves whether
or not to read such "offensive" material" be "removed from existence".
I believe this is just your inference.  From my response in the earlier
part of this article, it should be clear why I wouldn't identify
boycott with deprivation of freedom (to choose).
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:16371 sci.electronics:15436
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Cordless phones
Keywords: cordless recommendation
From: atz@clmqt.marquette.MI.US (Jeff)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:04:28 EDT

In <1992Sep8.024441.29145@tvnews.tv.tek.com> miken@krypton.tv.tek.com (Mike Nakamura) writes:


>How secure are the various makes of cordless phones to unauthorized use?
>I don't really care if people want to listen to my conversations, but I 
>don't want to pay for someone elses phone calls (malicious or otherwise).


I couldn't find the article that mentioned something about 
cordless phones that operate in the 900 Mhz range, but I was 
wondering if this was true, is it cause scanners can't pick that 
up, or can they?
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: What does a loan officer do with my tax re
Date: 14 Sep 1992 17:47:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 14250@noose.ecn.purdue.edu, laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
>I'm in the process of applying for a small loan and have run
>into a demand for my tax return.  The reason I was given is
>that they need it because I am self-employeed (farmer).

It is used to verify income.  If you weren't self-employeed, they would
require a paycheck stub.  Since you are, they use what you told the
government you made last year as your (minimum) income.

>Do they verify this somehow? 

Probably not.

> If so, why don't they just get
>this info from that source originally?  

The IRS doesn't give it out.

>Will my tax return
>info become part of my financial data as maintained by TRW
>and friends?  

No, they only maintain credit history.

>Is there any reason that I shouldn't go to the
>library, get a set of forms, fill them out however I want,
>and turn them in as authentic?

Yes, it's called fraud.  Somewhere on something you sign is a statement
that you warrant all information you supply to be complete and
accurate.

>Gee, I bet if I FAX them, they'll believe just about anything...

I doubt it.  My mortgage company wanted everything faxed in, but would
not accept a faxed copy as a "final" for the file, they had to have the
original signed document.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.books.technical,alt.discrimination,alt.activism
From: brophy@med.unc.edu (J. Jon Brophy)
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:30:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.002718.29040@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <5SEP199223305034@acad3.alaska.edu> jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris) writes:
>>I have already informed WB that I intend to boycott them until they stop
>>selling the book ...
>
>I am curious: did you also boycott bookstores selling Satanic Verses?
>--
>Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
>     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)

Boy was I relieved not to find a bunch of mee too's .  I was wondering
if Anybody has also heard about the gay sex manuel that could not
find a printer ( editor  wanted to do book)  because the printers
found the drawings objectionable.  Now that was also on NPR recently,
must I now boycott all book printers that refused to do this....

Guess not because I am not gay.

Jon
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: gideony@microsoft.com (Gideon Yuval)
Subject: Britannica $$??
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:55:39 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

What price is the current Encyclopedia Britannica? the Britannica
people won't quote me a number -- they insist on sending a
salesman (prsumably for the usual song&dance act).

Thanks
-- 
Gideon Yuval, gideony@microsoft.com, 206-882-8080 (fax:-883-8101;TWX:160520)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.books.technical,alt.discrimination
From: mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier)
Subject: Re: Waldenbooks fires staff for refusing to sell racist book!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:17:26 GMT

>This isn't directed at the author but I've read alot of postings which seem
>to say that its OK to sell racist/offensive material. While I see why these
>arguments have been made I still don't see why so many people take offense to
>the idea of a boycott. If a business does something that you find objectionable
>isn't it OK to voice your objections ? One way is via a boycott. When blacks
>weren't treated with the respect they deserved, they boycotted the busses.
>Why is this OK and boycotting WB isn't ?
It is OK.  But as you can see from the response, many of us do not feel
that selling racist material is enough of a problen (concern?) for us to
boycott the chain.  If you think it is go ahead and boycott.  If there are
enough people that have your convictions, your actions may prove effective,
but leave me out of it.

mark
From: huffstatler@esvax.avnet.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Undercoating and Paint Protection?
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:53:19 GMT
Organization: Avnet Computer - CTC Group; Culver City, CA

In article <leffler.715208738@vela>, leffler@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Bob Leffler) writes:
> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Aug27.091700.9077@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
>>>Thuy-An Hartman (thuyan@brahms.udel.edu) wrote:
>>>: 
>>>Only if you don't want your car to rust out in a year or two.
>>>It protects the bottom of your car from getting chipped by rocks, etc. and
>>>also helps to deaden road noise.  If you're planning on keeping the car,
>>>by all means get it.  I'm amazed that it's an option, rather than a factory-
>>>done thing, in fact.
> 
>>It probably does have factory undercoating and the sales-sleaze is trying
>>to sell dealer undercoating on top of it.  I've been told factory
>>undercoating is perfectly reliable these days and it's a waste of money
>>to go for aftermarket undercoating.
> 
> 
> Considering that GM now offers a 6 year rust warranty, I would assume
> that anything that the dealer wants to sell you is not really needed.
> 
> bob
> > 

   One more thing to consider is that for about 5 bucks, you can buy a can
   of spray on undercoating, take a few minutes, and do it yourself. Maybe
   not as fancy as the dealer, and I stress maybe, but in most cases, just 
   as effective. On larger vehicles you may need a couple of cans.   This 
   really is just secondary protection, but I think I would feel a bit better
   with it if I were in an area of the country that used a lot of salt on
   the roads. Don't have to worry about that much here in smoggy Los Angeles.

Mike
mike@esvax.avnet.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.consumers.house