Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 12:23:41 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Marvel Bashing, if you please!
 <1992Sep1.232647.58563@cc.usu.edu> <92253.102258U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>

In article <92253.102258U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>
>Well, I've discoverred a certain attitude that isn't helping Marvel
>or any comics company really.  It's called "I refuse to sponsor the quality
>stuff that's put out because those bastards put out such crap otherwise."
>(You know who you are...)

I do? Why thanks,Doug. I never knew that you knew I knew. >:)

>I have a certain friend who quite thoroughly enjoys such comics as X-Factor,
>She-Hulk, the Hulk, and admits he likes Daredevil and certain Punisher
>stories (if they're more than the standard slaughterfest and have some
>suspense
>and intrigue).  Trouble is, he refuses to buy any of those books solely on the
>grounds that he refuses to subsidize the company that puts out such shameless
>and hopeless crap fucking garbage like the Avengers (Harras's Hassles),
>Alpha Flight, X-Force, Captain America (yes, I agree that it's total shit,
>makes me yearn for Byrne and Stern back), and Iron Man (DIE DIE DIE YOU
>FUCKING
>PLAYBOY!!! DIE ALREADY!!!!!) as well as ruining his favorite books X-Men and
>the Defenders and most of the Punisher series.
>
>Now the point here is this, I'm quite, quite certain that if people who enjoy
>these comics, but refuse to lay down a penny for them out of the principle
>that they are Marvel books, and thus, should be completely shunned for the
>sheer fact that sooner or later, the editors will hack them to pieces (...)

Well,yeah,but the simple fact is this-although I will occasionally read through
a Marvel book and enjoy some of the stuff you've just mentioned,I feel no
need to collect those books. Why? Because I'm neither made of money or inclined
to collect anything by Marvel because,to be blunt,I just don't want to.
The latter reason might sound a tad limp,but I've even stopped collecting the
sole Epic title I was grabbing copies of,namely the AKIRA translation. I don't
know why I have this antipathy towards even the better Marvel titles-I just do.
Of course,it might have something to do with the fact that I still consider
most of the output of The House of Stupid Idea$ artistically bankrupt,and as
as a consequence I just might be nauseated by putting any money into their
pockets,period. It might be my loyalty to independent publishers,or it might
be the fact that I'm not inclined to spend more money on comics per week than
I do for lunch. I just don't care about collecting Marvel. Or DC,really. Or
98% of the _other_ publishers' books out there. It's less a question of "sub-
sidizing" Marvel's less honorable output than it is of what I choose to spend
my money on. Marvel is just on the low end of my priorities,and if there's
something "wrong" with that,who says I'd want to be "right" working with a set
of definitions like that?

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
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