HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: finding e-mail addresses
Date: 6 Nov 1992 23:24:50 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
	<1992Nov5.213341.1@acad3.alaska.edu>
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: fsars@acad3.alaska.edu's message of Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:33:41 GMT

Hayes seems not to be on the internet.  Hayes.com does have an MX
resource record, so DNS-savvy email transports should be able to send
to postmaster@hayes.com

Good luck.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: New Newsgroups
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:18:34 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <lftobrINNlpd@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>When I go into 'rn,' I often get the following message:
>
>		"Checking active list for new newsgroups..."
>
>This used to happen just once a day, but now it happens more often than
>not when I activate my newsreader.  I wouldn't mind, except for the fact
>that my window locks up for a period ranging from ten seconds to several
>minutes while this "active list" is being checked.
>
>Is there any way of circumventing this procedure, or better yet, restricting
>it to only happening, say, once in every 24-hour period?  (I'd rather not 
>delete my .newsrc file and get a new one if it can be avoided.)  

If you do a 'man rn', you will eventually reach the "Command Line
Arguments" list and discover that -q disables the search for new
newsgroups.  Further perusal of this wonderful resource will enable
you to realize that if you put

setenv RNINIT '-q'

in your .login (or whatever startup file you choose), any and all
sessions of rn you invoke will bypass the search for new newsgroups.
(The downside of this is that you must manually 'g<newsgroup>' from
the Select Newsgroups level whenever you want to subscribe to a new
newsgroup.)

In summary:

%rn -q

lets you bypass the 'Checking active list for new newsgroups...'
message.  If you want to make this a permanent feature of all of your
rn sessions, placing

setenv RNINIT '-q'

in your .login, .cshrc, .profile, etc. will do this.

(The moral of this story is Read the Doccumentation. ;-)

>Geoff Miller			+ + + + + + + +        Sun Microsystems
>geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM	+ + + + + + + +     Menlo Park, California

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
Newsgroups: news.answers,rec.games.video
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman)
Subject: Wanted: Newsfeed (geographically nonspecific)
Summary: Newsfeed for site in DC area wanted.
Keywords: usenet feed uucp wanted
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:02:46 GMT

I am looking for a new feed, preferably somewhere in North America, but
I'm not overly picky. The traffic would be relatively low (3-5MB/day)
and would all be run over TCP/IP (rlogin, uucpd, etc.) My site's needs
are relatively consistent, and would require little maintenance on the
server's end. My site is located just outside of Washington, DC.

Please let me know if you might be willing to provide this access.

Thanks in advance.
--
Eric A. Litman  #import <std/disclaimer.h> | NeXTMail, MIME accepted - please 
Federal Region, NeXT Campus Consultant     | indicate in Subject line.
From: quentin@sleeper.uucp (Quentin Conner)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: update for sleeper
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:42:12 GMT
Organization: Questar Information Systems, Oklahoma City
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


#N	sleeper
#S	Micronics 386-25; ISC SysVr3
#O	Questar Information Systems
#C	Quentin Conner
#E	sleeper!postmaster
#T	+1 405 751 0266
#P	2121 N.W. 117th St., Oklahoma City, OK  73120
#L	35 32 N / 97 38 W
#W	sleeper!quentin (Quentin Conner) ; Wed Oct 28 21:02:46 CST 1992
#U	micrncs idiokc bdol bdol2
#
sleeper	kittyhawk(DIRECT), occrsh(DIRECT), micrncs(DIRECT),
	idiokc(DIRECT), bdol(DIRECT), bdol2(DIRECT)

Quentin Conner
--------------
sleeper!quentin@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
or sleeper!quentin@occrsh.att.com
or ...!kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu!sleeper!quentin
or ...!uunet!att!occrsh!sleeper!quentin
-- 
Quentin Conner
--------------
sleeper!quentin@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
or sleeper!quentin@occrsh.att.com
From: taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: Momad (Modem Madness) in NY UUCP map
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 05:19:07 -0500
Reply-To: taz%momad@infoserv.com
Organization: MoDeM MaDnEsS BBS   1-516/295-9435

# #N    momad
# #S    386-DX running MS-DOS, Waffle 1.65 for UUCP
# #O    Modem Madness BBS
# #C    Jonathan S. Nowak
# #E    momad!system
# #T    +1 516 295 9024
# #P    782 Arbuckle Ave.  Woodmere, NY 11598-2706
# #L    40 39 N / 73 40 W city
# #R    Public-Access Usenet Site & BBS
# #U    infoserv philabs mertwig
# #W    momad!taz (Jonathan S. Nowak); Tue Oct 27 17:13:15 EDT 1992
# #
# infoserv      infoserv.com
# philabs       philabs.philips.com
#
# infoserv(daily)
# philabs(daily)
# mertwig(daily)


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------    
    Modem Madness       __________________        500 MEGz of GIFs
         BBS          _/ ||                ~-_      Adult Access
    516-295-9435    ,/   //       /~-       /  ~-_  ________---------------//
  -----------------------------------\-------------------____________  __//
 O--------------                  ~~^ |                                 | ~|
 }======{--------\____________________|______________________________   |  |
 \===== / /~~~\ \ \                   |         ________________________|-~
  \----|  \___/ ||--------------------'----------|  \____/ //
        `______''    Taz%Momad@Infoserv.Com       `_______'
From: mikep@abekas.uucp (Mike Park)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: Updated map entry abekas (ca.x)
Keywords: abekas
Date: 8 Nov 92 09:21:04 GMT
Organization: Abekas Video Systems Inc., Redwood City, California.


#N	abekas
#S	SUN 3/160; SunOS 3.2
#O	Abekas Video Systems Inc, Redwood City, CA.
#C	Mike Park
#E	abekas!postmaster
#T	+1 415 369 5111
#P	101 Galveston Drive, Redwood City, CA 94063
#L	37 27 N / 122 15 W city
#U	infopiz wetware dragoman pnext cookie
#W	abekas!mikep (Mike Park); Sun Nov  8 00:52:59 PST 1992
#
abekas = abekas.com
abekas  .abekas.com(LOCAL)
#
abekas	kumr(DEMAND), infopiz(HOURLY), pyramid(DAILY), wetware(EVENING), 
	dragoman(HOURLY), pnext(HOURLY), cookie(DAILY), tr2(EVENING)

-- 
Mike Park
Abekas Video Systems Inc.                 NET: mikep@abekas.com
Newsgroups: news.newsites
From: mng@pca54.mng.com (Mark Ng)
Subject: u.usa.ca.7 revised entry
Organization: Private site
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:09:36 GMT

#N      pca54
#S      PC compatible
#O      Individual
#C      Mark Ng
#E      pca54!postmaster
#T      +1 310 333 2976
#P      531 Main St., #1011, El Segundo, CA  90245-3060
#L      33 49 01 N / 118 02 11 W city
#W      pca54!mng (Mark Ng); Sat Nov  7 21:00:56 PST 1992
#
pca54   .mng.com(LOCAL)
pca54 = mng.com
pca54 = pca54.mng.com
pca54   netcomsv(POLLED), pride386(DIRECT), qed(DEMAND),
        wilbur(DEMAND)
#
From: mikep@abekas.uucp (Mike Park)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: Updated map entry dragoman (ca.x)
Keywords: dragoman
Date: 8 Nov 92 09:21:51 GMT
Organization: Abekas Video Systems Inc., Redwood City, California.


#N	dragoman
#S	NeXT; Mach 2.5 / BSD 4.3; NeXT Release 3.0
#O	Hoopy Froods, Inc.
#C	Mike Park
#E	dragoman!postmaster
#T	+1 415 340 9770
#P	1131 Capuchino Avenue, Burlingame, CA 94010, USA.
#L	37 35 N / 122 17 W city
#U	abekas
#W	dragoman!mikep (Mike Park); Sun Nov  8 00:52:59 PST 1992
#
dragoman = dragoman.com
dragoman  .dragoman.com(LOCAL)
#
dragoman	abekas(DEMAND), pnext(DEMAND)
-- 
Mike Park
Abekas Video Systems Inc.                 NET: mikep@abekas.com
From: ken.mason@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Ken Mason)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: All right, I give up
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: ken.mason@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Ken Mason)
Organization: The Batchelor Pad PCBoard ~ Long Beach, CA ~ +1 310 494 8084

BP.earning the respect that RISKS has gained. I now believe that the natural
BP.stratification of the usenet into structured and moderated discussion
BP.forums that exist in parallel with anarchic anything-goes newsgroups is
BP.its best hope.

        I'd say you haven't given up;  instead, you've learned a lesson
        on the importance placed in cyberspace on freedom of speech.
        It's beneficial that you started this thread, even though you
        caught a few flames, as more minds are probably more aware of
        that crucial issue.
---
 . EZ 1.39 .       Oxymoron:  military intelligence.
                              
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.future,news.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: scoggin@opus.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin)
Subject: Re: NREN information wanted
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:51:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.184529.11229@tc.cornell.edu> mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
>Where can I get information on the NREN project (on-line or otherwise)? Any
>pointers to documents, papers, books, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>mdw

There are some papers on host nnsc.nsf.net in the nsfnet directory.

	- John

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Xref: sparky news.admin:8455 news.groups:21055 rec.music.synth:18207
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.groups,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:23:21 GMT
Followup-To: news.admin
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Nov9.193141.2681@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>I suggest that the spirit of them has by an unclear call for votes
>skewing the voter population. The vote was unfair. 

Sorry. The vote is over and met the Guidelines to the letter, and met the
intent as well: the notice was provided to the folks who would be affected.
That they chose to ignore it was their own fault. The vote was open and fair.

>>Dave, why didn't you go campaigning (or informing) in r.m.s during
>>the vote?  Or complain during the RFD that your friends in r.m.s
>>weren't participating?
>There's a lot of reasons. In hindsight, I fucked up big time. I'm human
>too. What's wrong with me trying to fix it now?

Nothing that would't be wrong with trying to fix the results of the US
Presidential election a week after the fact. If Bush had won, would you be
stalking him with a high-powered rifle just because people who didn't vote
were complaining about the result? That's NO DIFFERENT from what you're doing
here.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
     We survived Jimmy Carter; we'll (probably) survive Bill Clinton.
Newsgroups: news.admin,comp.mail.uucp
From: Tom Fitzgerald	<fitz>
Subject: Re: Any easy way to filter this type of UUCP traffic?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:28:48 GMT

Please don't direct followups to news.admin.misc.... this is not a new
administration issue, and the newgroup hasn't reached the far corners of
the net yet.

clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:

> uunet	... <{sitename}>({cost})
> The angle brackets indicate that nothing should be routed *through*
> "sitename" to other machines.

> Furthermore, you shouldn't advertise the uunet link in *your* map entry
> at all.  Otherwise, large numbers of systems may choose you to get to
> uunet.

It would be better to advertise the link but make it really expensive.  If
you don't advertise it, it's not clear if the 1-way path is a mistake, or
what.  Some map coordinators insist on bidirectional links.  If you declare
it instead as

yoursite uunet(52*WEEKLY)

it makes things a lot clearer, and the mailers will still never choose to
route through it.

Actually, if a system has no other path to UUNET except through yoursite,
it will route through you, but this would happen anyway.  If the maps
declare an a->b link but no b->a link, pathalias will assume there's a link
with cost DEAD, and use it if there's no other alternative.

52*WEEKLY is close enough to DEAD to make no difference.

-- 
Tom Fitzgerald   Wang Labs       fitz@wang.com   "I went to the universe today;
1-508-967-5278   Lowell MA, USA                   It was closed...."
From: rick@rgb.com (Rick Davis)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: New sendsys bomb - jgd@dixie.com
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:37:10 GMT
Organization: RGB Spectrum

We received a simalar message from the same individual.  I have sent
mail to him requesting that he cease and desist.

Rick Davis
rick@rgb.com
-- 
                    R  G  B  Spectrum
               950 Marina Village Parkway	/ "You can't fight in here - this
                   Alameda, California     / is a war room!"
					  rick@rgb.com
Xref: sparky news.admin:8372 news.sysadmin:1385 alt.config:6730 alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d:8888
From: siphon@momad.UUCP (Stimpson J. Katz)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.sysadmin,alt.config,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d
Subject: Enough With The Child Pornography
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 19:20:35 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: MoDeM MaDnEsS BBS   1-516/295-9435

     Apparently my previous comments on the kiddie-porn issue were
insufficiently clear. This is not an issue of censorship, it is an issue
of protecting Usenet, its users, and its operators from legal reprisals.
Nobody wants to be a test case.

     If you were sending a package to a friend in another country, and
explosives were legal to possess in your country but illegal in your
friend's, would you send him some? So long as your post can be sent
to another country, it is incumbent upon you to respect that country's
laws because you are putting other people at risk.

     If someone wants to establish a new newsgroup to carry these materials
so that only those willing to take the risk need do so, go ahead, may I
suggest "alt.binaries.erotica.six.year.olds.with.flat.chests". (Anyone
who wants to can cross-post this to alt.config) Continuing to post these 
messages on other groups will result in more operators blocking those  
groups and nobody wants that.

     Of course, I don't think anyone would establish such a group because
few (if any) people will agree to carry it. Hence their desire to post
this stuff on the existing groups. This constitutes an attempt to subvert 
the 'anyone can choose not to carry it' issue by preventing operators from 
allowing existing traffic but preventing child pornography, thus confusing 
a simple legal precaution with censorship or an attempt to eliminate the 
passage of all erotic images.

     It is unfortunate that this was originally titled, "Does Usenet condone
child pronography." Usenet does not condone anything, it simply passes it,
subject to the discression of its administrators and operators. Don't
jepordize that discretion.

SJK

The Siphon (SIPHON@momad.uucp)

"I swear, by my life and my love of it, never to live for the
sake of another man, nor to ask another man to live for mine."
From: news@equinox.unr.edu (USENET News Administration)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: UNIX Email Software Survey FAQ
Keywords: mail software survey UNIX FAQ
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:53:51 GMT
Reply-To: hakim@unssun.UUCP (Ashraf Al Hakim)
Organization: University of Nevada-Reno

I have to write a research paper for my class. I am doing it on "Career of 
Electrical Engineering." I need a professional engineer to e-mail me the answersto the following questions.
From: hakim@unssun.nevada.edu (Ashraf Al Hakim)
1. Name.
2. Adress and something about you and where you work.
3. What are you currently working on?
4. Do you like your job?
5. If you were given a chance to start over again, what career would you choose?6. Do you receive an annual salery of above US$50,000? (y/n). Exact amount is 
  most welcome.
7. Are you basically a happy man/woman?
8. What do you think are the future job prospects of electrical engineers in,
  a) The United States.  b) The world at large.

All the help and trouble rendered will greatly be appreciated and shall be
acknowledged.

Sincerely,

Ashraf Hakim


acknowle
Xref: sparky news.admin.misc:312 news.groups:21283
From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.groups
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:10:40 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: GSP Whitewater Slalom Racing Team

Followups to news.groups; I think everyone would be best served by
keeping this discussion from fragmenting.

In article <1992Nov11.074350.5428@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>It was skewed against the participants who actually use rec.music.synth.
>Not by the guidelines but by common sense. Are you implying that they 
>weren't desired in the vote...and that this is OK in the spirit of the
>guidelines?

I never imply.

That said, I think it's pretty clear that the participation of as many
people as reasonably possible was desired in the discussion and the
call for votes: that's why there were multiple rounds of each, why
they were posted to the relevant newsgroups, why voters who goofed
while voting were given another opportunity instead of having their
vote silently recorded as "incorrect", and so on.  I went well beyond
the requirements of the guidelines (which require only 1 CFD, 1 CFV and
do not require goofed ballots to be returned, among other things) in
an attempt to broaden the process as much as possible.

Finally, as I said before, "skewed" is semantically null in this context.
Since anyone may vote (including people who read the group, people who
do not read the group, people who post to it, people who don't post to
it, people who have never heard of it, and so on) it is not possible
for a vote to be "skewed" because there is nothing for it to be "skewed"
against.  Usenet newsgroup creation/changing votes are open to all:
there is no requirement of "participation" other than in the vote itself.

---Rsk
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: I wonder if this is a genuine mistake?
Date: 7 Nov 92 07:15:53 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <7TJuTB2w165w@cybrspc.UUCP> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
>Did someone shoot themselves in the foot here?

>(path broken for clarity)

>Path: cybrspc!umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!uunet!uunet.ca! \
>                xenitec!van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca! \
>                        kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!ersys!crs-sys!crs
>From: news@crs-sys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (News Admin)
>Newsgroups: news.admin.ctl
>Subject: sendsys
>Message-ID: <1992Nov05.043809.14299@crs-sys.uucp>
>Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 04:38:09 GMT
>Control: sendsys
>Sender: crs@crs-sys.uucp (Chris Gregors)
>Followup-To: news.admin.ctl
>Distribution: edm
>Organization: Confusion Control
>Lines: 0

Yes, and no.  It looks as if he was intending to map Edmonton, Alberta,
Canada - note the distribution "edm".  Unfortunately, "The Great
Distribution Bug..er..Feature..er.." struck.

Kakwa (which is in Edmonton) leaked it to UBC (British Columbia)
and the traditional sys file .../all clause carried it to the rest of the
world reachable by /all.  (kakwa and unixg.ubc.ca sites should know better.
The uunet sites can't be expected to handle this).

This didn't reach me (or probably most of Ottawa), because our local hub
enumerates distributions.  (Thank you John!!!!!)

What's particularly amusing is that ersys and crs-sys are both
Waffle BBSs (DOS I think) on ATs.  Poor buggers.  Are they in for a
surprise.

Let this be a lesson.  If you want to map a local net, do it with a newsgroup
that's specific to the area - don't rely on distribution alone.  And
for god's sake don't use news.admin!
-- 
Chris Lewis; clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Clearly NOT a FORGERY
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:20:58 GMT
Organization: Wolves Den UNIX
X-Md4-Signature: a9619fcc741006fbd4fe0500a5326bd8

In article <1dqqh0INNoo@spatula.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cudep@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.174712.27216@wolves.uucp> news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den) writes:
>>Try looking up rock.concert.net and taco.ncsu.edu via nslookup or
>>something.
>
>Which is the root of the problem....
>taco and rock should either be in the UUCP maps,
>or they should be in the headers as FQDNS.

	Nope, not simple.  Usenet is NOT equivalent to UUCP pseudo
domain.  The netnews distribution mechanism only requiures that the name
in the path header be unique among sites that exchange netnews.  Not
that the name in the Path: header be equivalent to the uucp nodename for
the site.

	Usenet is a virtual network of sites that exchange messages in
the standard format.  Usenet makes no specification of what the
underlying transport protocols are to be.

>>Casting aspersions on NCSU because you are technically out-of-date is
>>hardly conducive to you (already lacking) net.reputation.
>
>Whoa!  You'll catch something with statements like this.

I'm hardly afraid of the feeble attempts at insults that pass for flame
wars in this latter-day Usenet.
-- 
Usenet Net News Administrator @ The Wolves Den  (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
news@wolves.durham.nc.us  news%wolves@cs.duke.edu  ...duke!wolves!news
"The flame war is a specific Usenet art form." --me
[This site is not affiliated with Duke University. (Idiots!) ]
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: ta2321s@dunix.drake.edu (Terry Asher alias -       The Penguin)
Subject: Disk space required for k12 hierarchy
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Distribution: us
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:52:37 GMT

    Would some kind soul tell me how much disk space is required for the 
k12 hierarchy for one week's worth of news?  Thank you very much.
Terry Asher
ta2321s@acad.drake.edu
Xref: sparky news.admin.misc:309 rec.music.synth:18296
From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:04:12 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: GSP Whitewater Slalom Racing Team

Followups to news.groups, where this discussion belongs.

In article <1992Nov10.204131.15242@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>Again the two critical points: 
>1) the subject line was not clear

That is a matter of (highly disputed) opinion.  271 people found
it clear enough to submit a vote.

>2) The first page of the CFV had no mention of r.m.s

That depends entirely on how many lines fit on one's screen, what
software one uses to read news, how that software is configured,
and how each user has customized the behavior of that software.
For example, users running rn on 24-line terminals with all the
headers turned on would see about the first two lines of that
(or any) article; users running xvnews on windowing displays
with the article-display window cranked up would see the first 40
lines or so.

Above all, these point taken one at a time or together, are not
sufficient to invalidate the vote as conducted.

---Rsk