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From: mknip@niksula.hut.fi (Mats Anders Knip)
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1992Nov18.184948.2024@hsr.no>
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:08:55

> But that might not be strictly legal. However, I doubt that anyone would
> care.

Well, technically speaking that is. Practically nobody would give a damn.
OK - most really good Amiga-musicians do their own samples, but they are
often taken from various synths -> anybody can use the same sounds if they
sample from the same syth themselves. Besides, I don't think he meant to
make music for a professional game or anything - only write music for his
own pleasure, so who would know? Who would care? In the beginning of the
ST-era everybody used everybodys sounds, and still do, although not to
the same extent. The only person who would get offended is the guy who
originally made the sample, because then he isn't the only one with
that special sound anymore.
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From: torl@ifi.uio.no (Tor Linl|kken)
Subject: CU-BASE for AMIGA????
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:05:52 GMT
Originator: torl@sognsvann.ifi.uio.no


Rumours says that cu-base has come for the AMIGA!

Is this true????
From: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Music-X 2.0!?
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:50:13 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

In article <1942@vall.dsv.su.se> matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>Is it true that a version 2 of Music-X will be released soon??

	I called MicroIllusions last week, and they said that an update
for Music-X will be available "by the end of the year."  Also, Music-X
2.0 will be available "early 1993."

	I'll believe it when I see it.  MicroIllusions is great for
vaporware.

>In that case, who are the guys behind the project? What are the new
>features?

	Who knows?  Rumor says that it has some music notation (printed
sheet music) capability.

                                                        Dan

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From: mguthrie@yew.Berkeley.EDU (Matt Guthrie)
Subject: Re: Shamen at 17-BIT
Reply-To: M.Guthrie@az05.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc., Phoenix Product Division
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:11:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.163815.27212@aston.ac.uk>, mcgraicp@cs.aston.ac.uk (Uncle Zeff) writes:
|> 17-BIT can supply you with:
|> 
|> PROGEN 91 - ALTERED STATES
|> HYPERREAL *
|> LSI LOVE SEX INTELLIGENCE
|> MAKE IT MINE / HYPERREAL V2.0 RAW *
|> EBENEEZER GOODE
|> BOSS DRUM
|> 
|> all are AMIGA 500+ only, except the * ones, which will run on any config.
|> 

Excuse my ignorance, but what mods will only run on an A500+?  What is the
nature of the limitation?  What does an A500+ have that other Amigas do not?


Please enlighten me.

Thanks,

Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths)
Subject: Top Mod List
Summary: Is there a Top-Mod list?
Keywords: MOD LIST
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:48:04 GMT

Does anyone have a list of the top MODs out there?  I'm looking for
some new music and have yet to find any really decent stuff.

I wonder if there'd be any point to starting a modules newsgroup to
keep track of what's hot in the modules scene.

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From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: The best ModPlayer?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:54:42 GMT
Originator: nilsco@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <bmccnnll.722397280@unix1.tcd.ie>, bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell) writes:
> But anyway - yes, MultiPlayer is beyond a shadow of a doubt, the best mod
> player available. Sure, EdPlayer has a flashy CD-player screen, but less
> features overall. ;-)  (Sorry Ed!) Bryan has put a *lot* of effort into making
> MP the kind of thing which every 2.0 user should have: ooooh that multi-
> threading... Well worth registering!

... and not 4000 compatible (sigh). And a very messy display.

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From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: Random modplayer?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:22:19 GMT
Originator: nilsco@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Nov14.024056.69318@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, elm4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Ed Mackey) writes:
(almost forgot this)
> Also, in case you didn't notice, EdP 2.1 is capable of a HIRES/lace screen
> now, made just for you people who have been bugging me about the lores.
> If you want AppIcons go make 'em with ToolManager.

That does not make it any better. Open a hires/lace screen in front of a
productivity screen still looks like sh*t.

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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:38:33 GMT
Organization: The DSV institute of Stockholm, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

IO20016@MAINE.MAINE.EDU wrote:

: I have almost no audio sounds(samples), if you have some (or know where
: to get some) could you drop me a line?  I'd really appriciate it.

The authors of AM/FM (Amiga Musicians Freeware Magazine) also makes a 
sample disk available every two months.

Check it out. You can find AM/FM issue 6 on amiga.physik.unizh.ch or other
Aminet sites.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: Top Mod List
Organization: Lotus Development Ireland
	<1992Nov20.185528.3382@nmt.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:05:50 GMT

	Couldn't we put together some sort of weekly top 10 with a variety of genre,
	that we all vote on?  Something like a listing of new(ish) mods (or old) to

Good idea.  While we're at it, put an ftp site (and pathname) for each
mod beside it.  That way the ftpmail users (and there are a lot of them)
can get at it too.

				Jordan
From: Joe_Carp@republik.fidonet.org (Joe Carp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: How about a PD sequencer for the Amiga?
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:41:29 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

In a message dated Sun 15 Nov 92 15:33, Krisi@vipunen.hut.fi (kristian P J 
wrote:

 KPJ>  I recently bought a synthesizer, a digital piano and a MIDI
 KPJ>  interface to connect the two to my Amiga. Wow, I thought, all I
 KPJ>  need now is a sequencer. To my dismay, after days of searching
 KPJ>   through ftp sites, I was not able to find one. I don't
 KPJ> particularly
 KPJ>  want to dish out huge amounts of cash for commercial products,
 KPJ>  so I reckoned I'd start programming my own.

 KPJ>  Before I do, I'd like to know if anyone knows of a PD sequencer
 KPJ>  for the Amiga, or if someone is already programming one.

Well, no there's a delema... hmm.
I guess I'd recommend MED 3.20 (or 3.22).  I only have 3.20 myself.  It is
more suited as an Amiga MOD maker, but it has extensive MIDI sequencng
capabilities as well.  The only problem that you will have is that it is a
monophonic sequencer (if you want to play a chord, each note will have to
be on a separate track...perfect for a Casio CZ-101).  If you're really
concerned about the price of commercial sequencer packages, look for the
more outdated packages like Music-X or Music-X Jr. I believe I've seen ads
for them at about $30.  Quite a bargan.  I paid $200 for Music-X when it
was new. :-(

   -Joe


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: iguana@nmt.edu (Shawn Clever)
Subject: Re: Top Mod List
Keywords: Top 10 Mod list
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:55:28 GMT


Couldn't we put together some sort of weekly top 10 with a variety of genre,
that we all vote on?  Something like a listing of new(ish) mods (or old) to
be voted on by people who listened to them and then the results put into
some sort of 10 most popular mods?  It could even be biweekly or monthly.



Lizardman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: Random modplayer?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:53:54 GMT
Originator: nilsco@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Nov18.044607.25091@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, elm4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Ed Mackey) writes:
> Hmm, once again, this sounds like a problem with the actual playback
> routines for ProTracker, not something specific for EdPlayer.  Of course
(...)
> Maybe, if everyone who thinks EdPlayer and other modplayers don't play
> PT mods right, all send Lars some money and ask him to make a new and
> inproved PT playing sourcecode, maybe he will do it.  Any chance of this,
> Lars?  Hmmm...?  Or maybe he will tell us [again] that if we want to
> play ProTracker mods at all, we should do it with the Real Thing
> [ie ProTracker, not Coke] and who needs ARexx support or random play anyway.

If a modplayer plays modules wrong, it is the modplayer's problem!! It sounds
kind of stupid saying "Well, I know it is wrong, but I don't know how to fix
it". Who wants or needs a player that does it wrong?

IMHO, the replayer itself should have been distributed as a library. Only in
that case everyone could complain to Lars etc. for faulty code.

(BTW, we are working on such a library right now, which supports all known
module types :-).

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From: leto@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Manuel Fischer)
Subject: Re: Great Mods on archives
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:55:20 GMT

ma90gjp@cen.ex.ac.uk writes:

>I've been going though the archives searching for really good music files.
>There is such a wide range it makes it very time consuming to do. 

Yes, it isn't easy to find really good mods... :-)

>So far the best I have found is Beyond Music, Space Debris, and the Oddessey
>package. A few others worth listening to are Apocalypse and Rainy Night.
>What does everyone think are the best Mods around?? 

Hmm, some of my best mods are:

- alf.mod (funny)
- arvids.mod (really funny)
- axel_f.mod (very good sound quality)
- bridge.mod (long...sounds good)
- daisy_chain.mod (    "            )
- FaceInTheWater.mod (really good)
- heaven&hell.mod (the best?)
- klisje.mod (klisje paa klisje) (very long, very good, interesting!!!)
- snowland.mod (also good)
- rainy_night.mod (this is my best!)
- shining.mod (sounds good)
- tomorrow.mod (live for tomorrow, good quality)

That's all :-)

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From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Music-X 2.0 Release
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:45:22 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

In article <Joe_Carp.01br@republik.fidonet.org> Joe_Carp@republik.fidonet.org (Joe Carp) writes:
>You know, the original version [of Music-X] (and every upgrade
>since...all one of them :-)), came with a notational font that was nevfer
>used by anything.  Check it out sometime; it has notes down to the 64th
>note and al the signs needed to score a piece.

	Music-X does use some of those symbols -- check out the
"grid" requester in the Bar Editor.

                                                        Dan

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From: karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund)
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:49:48 GMT

>Well, one way is to download a couple of modules via FTP and "borrow"
>sounds from them.

But that might not be strictly legal. However, I doubt that anyone would
care.
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From: walaj@serdlc15.essex.ac.uk (J F Waland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Shamen at 17-BIT
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:13:24 GMT
Reply-To: walaj@essex.ac.uk (J F Waland)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <1992Nov19.163815.27212@aston.ac.uk> mcgraicp@cs.aston.ac.uk writes:
>A sunny hello from Zeff of four small custards.
>
>For some new improved Protracker music for the 90's, why not contact 17-BIT software
>(sorry, can't remember the address off hand) for some lovely Shamen remixes by
>yours truly.
>
>17-BIT can supply you with:
>
>That's me, the other Mr C. ...
>  Chris McGrail (mcgraicp@uk.ac.aston.cs)

AH, but why send them to 17bit (unless they are not fully PD ie ???-ware), when
you could upload them to somewhere like amiga.physik.unizh.ch (130.60.80.80)
or ftp.brad.ac.uk and then everyone can get them (and save some money)??


jonathan.

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From: Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke)
Subject: Re: Top Mod List
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27 beta (Nov 22 1992)
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:03:19 CST
Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas


THe Top 10 Music MOD charts....Let the Music Play and be echo'ed 'Round
the World!   Cant vote for my own Tunes you say? (sniff-n-Sniff)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: Random modplayer?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:20:14 GMT
Originator: nilsco@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Nov14.024056.69318@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, elm4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Ed Mackey) writes:
> Annoying busywait bug?!  WHAT annoying busywait bug????  There is no point
> in EdPlayer that I do any busywaiting when another task could be running.
(...)
> If you're talking about the DMA wait, then you have no concept of the
> time involved -- there needs to be a pause between certain writes to
> the audio chip, but this pause is so small there would not be time
> for a single task switch on most systems.  To exit the interrupt, resume
> the current task, suspend the current task, and re-enter the interrupt,
> would take much more time than the DMA wait itself, so there is no
> point doing that.  By the time you got out it would be time to go back
> in.  No work would be accomplished and time would be wasted.

Assuming that you use the normal protracker replay, it is wrong to use a
busywait. If you play a module that requires REAL tight timing, it will
play wrong. The right thing to do is to use audio interrupts. At least, thats
what is done in the coming IntuiTracker and it WORKS.

BTW, what should the busywait be set to on a 4000?

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Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 18:19:56 EST
From: <IO20016@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!

I am writing music on amiga and really need some help...
I have almost no audio sounds(samples), if you have some (or know where
to get some) could you drop me a line?  I'd really appriciate it.
I'm mostly looking for drum samples, rap scratches, strings, and
synth bass sounds.   Thanks a million!!!!!!!!
-io20016@maine  (Tom Romano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: O-6@sarpih.no (Student Fellesbruker)
Subject: Modules by Echo of ILLUSION
Summary: Mudules
Keywords: DOWNLOAD!!
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:38:21 GMT

	
From : echo@sarpih.no
Subject : Modules by Echo of ILLUSION
Date : 16nov1992.

		I have downloaded some modules to amiga.physik,wuarchive 
	and they will also be found on their mirrors , like ftp.luth ...

		Download them today(!) and give me your opinion back here.
	The modules are (ofcourse) made by PROTRACKER.

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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: How to obtain distorted guitar sound..
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:39:47 GMT
Organization: The DSV institute of Stockholm, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

E53274@TRMETU.BITNET wrote:

: Or what is the most powerful software in runtime
: manipulation of sound? Any info?

Personally I love using AudioMaster IV as an effect box. It's pretty
awesome playing around with real time echo, flanger and pitch bend.
Try it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: NEWTEK: WHAT HAPPENED?
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:16:27 GMT

thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:

>In article <1992Nov19.050929.14127@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez) writes:
>>
>>   * Work on a new Toaster for PC's or the Mac's

>     Tosterlink for Macintosh should be released by now.
>     Tosterlink for IBM should be out in the near future.

>Disclaimer:  I am not affiliated with NewTek.  I only spoke to their
>             rep. over the phone.

Do you kow what the Toasterlink is?  It is only there to take a toaster 
workstation, ie amiga a2000 and toaster card.  And to put the control knobbies
on the mac or ibm, through a link.  Oooo...  As if it makes a harry diff where
you put the knobbies.  Everything is going on on the amiga.  Those guys
are very unlikely to be putting out anything soon.  Because they can't 
design a tape worm out of their ass.  They sit on their duff and heir big 
marketting guys to help them rake in the dough.

Martin

My Disclaimer:  I find what laziness and lack adhering to specs for zorro
                boards irresponsible.  And know of a couple of programmers
                that a chance to work their and refused after finding little
                they do.  "It was like minding the store with no customers 
                in the store," is what a friend has told me.


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From: baltzebw@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Bruce W. Baltzer)
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:05:49 GMT
Organization: tuns.ca

mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:

>We live in a worldthat is less than ideal, and will ALWAYS be
>that way.  Quit bashing this country.  The US is a world leader
>in every front.  (Let's talk about women's rights in other parts
>of the world... like Africa... like how the Indians treated them...
>What OTHER country is as racially open as the US?)

perhaps your northern neighbours, chosen ahead of the US by the UN as one of
the best places in the world to live, based upon freedoms, crime rates, standard
of livinng, and several other things...  and Canada is far from perfect.  those
other places you mention may be farther, but the US is hardly the 'leader in
every front' you state it to be.  actually, the US is slipping as a world
leader in many areas.  i agree with you that i don't want to be blamed for
the mistakes of my long-dead relatives either - i think poverty in any peoples
should be fought, and it's a shame that some cultures INSIDE the US don't have
the same opportunities as everyone else.

>Gee, that's why we have such a preponderance of black, yellow,
>etc. etc. peoples in our midsts, eh?  There is greater ethnic
>diversity here than anywhere else in the world.

 again, look beyond your own borders, as statements such as that reflect
blind patriotism.

>Mike, white AMERICAN who refuses to be guilty because my country
>offers more economic opportunity to more ethnic groups than any other
>in the world.

here we go again... :-)

BTW, what does any of this have to do with c.s.a.advocacy?
i think this should be moved to personal mail...

bruce

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