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From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: Stacker ate my hard disk again. : ( help....
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:14:11 GMT

In article <92351.29836.J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>
>Aye, 'tis true that the "three-fingered salute" in the middle of an app will
>giving you the "Updating allocation map..." message.  I've also encountered
>a "volume damaged" (aka "you should have backed up your hard drive, dummy)
>error on doing so--twice.  After the second time I scrapped Stacker and
>have had no more bad sectors arise (version 2.0).

I have the "Updating FAT" messages when I reboot during an app as well, but
with v1.x, I have never encountered the "volume damaged".  It looks like
all of the complaints I have seen about Stacker have been regarding v2.0
Yet another reason for me to keep using v1.x like I have been for over two
years....

>What happens when a program hangs up, though?  You can't exit normally and
>gracefully.  You have no choice but to reset the machine.  I always tried to
>avoid needing to turn the machine off while programs were actively running,
>but it wasn't possible 100% of the time.

I have programs hang all the time on me...and I am constantly rebooting 
while on a Stacker volume.  As long as the app in question wasn't in the middle
of a read/write exercise, you are okay.  Otherwise, on reboot, Stacker will
have to update the FAT the best it can.  Then you should run SCHECK and
CHKDSK to fix any lost sector groups, etc...


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mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
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From: galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon)
Subject: Re: How to create a "more" batch file?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 04:31:04 GMT
Organization: Connemara - Computing for People
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.0.1 12/13/89)
Bcc: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu
Status: OR

In article <1992Dec11.235700.19707@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:
>Is there a way I can write a batch file that will ... 
>...
>type file.txt |more

At the risk of feeding a how-many-ways-are-there-to ... thread,
( "create a double space-ing filter in Unix" was my favorite )
here is one way, with no error checking and barely any prompting.

    @echo off
    :loop
	more < %1
	shift
	if %1.==. goto quit
	echo next file: %1
	pause > nul:
	goto loop
    :quit

--
Denis McKeon
galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu

QED: Quit and Eat Dinner
From: gs34+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregg Matthew Sterling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: .zip format
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:45:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cf_J9E_00YUn1esFIa
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

It may be that you have an earlier version of pkunzip, which would let you
view the file, but not unzip it... The latest version of pkunzip that I know
of is 1.93.. But that latest pkunzip should be backward compatible.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: swispl@solomon.technet.sg (SW International)
Subject: two things wanted
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:00:29 GMT

Hi, I am looking for two things:

a) Is there a program that can let me read/write amiga disks on my PC ?

b) I'd like to have a tool which automagically turns off the motor of 
   my hard disks if there is no access. My Notebook does it, but I guess
   that's built in to the controller. This could maybe implemented as
   a TSR. I want to keep my PC running 24h, but the HD eats quite a lot
   of power. 

Any help is appreciated

Thx alot,

Mathias

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    Singapore 0511                   | 
    Tel: (65) 778-0066               |
    Fax: (65) 777-9401               | swispl@solomon.technet.sg
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:37:25 EST
From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: AMSTRAD SUCKS DICK

Check out computer shopper. I recall some outfit advertising there
selling refurbished Amstrads -- Underware Electronics???
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:15876 misc.forsale.computers:43601
From: byu@remus.rutgers.edu (Bob Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: HELP: Borland C/C++ 3.1
Keywords: help,borland,c,c++,3.1
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:19:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hello,
	I am interested in buying Borland C++ 3.1 with Applications,
but I am somewhat confused...  What are the differences between two
different version of same software?  There are Educational/Acadamic
version (I can get it for ~$250) and Commercial/Regular version (I can
get it for ~$500).

Thanks in advance,
Bob.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: mmangieri@vitro.com (Mikey)
Subject: Re: Stacker ate my hard disk again. NOT!
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:46:26 GMT

In article <1gjp3sINNmph@male.EBay.Sun.COM> slemons@lime.EBay.Sun.COM (Steven
Lemons) writes:
>

>Regardless, I've just upgraded to version 3. This version is definately
>quicker on my pc, though I'm not sure that they have managed to
>increase the level of compression much.
>

Maybe I have a unique set-up on my machine, but before the Stacker upgrade, I
had 8.2 Meg left on my stacked 130Meg HD - after the upgrade, I have 15.9 Meg
free. Seems to me there was a little improvement in compression  :)

         __________________________________________________________________
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                                                       - A. Einstein


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren)
Subject: Re: I.B.M. ALL THE WAY!!
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:02:35 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <cavlier.09e0@xamiga.linet.org> cavlier@xamiga.linet.org writes:
>All i want to say is that AMIGA is great in desktop video and graphics and 
>I.B.M. is better ing software compatibaly and disk space!! 

That's funny; I thought all you wanted to say was...

In article <cavlier.08za@xamiga.linet.org> cavlier@xamiga.linet.org writes:
>All I want to say is the I.B.M. is coming up with a new computer to compete 
>with amiga

Is that all you want to say?   ;^)

-- 
            _.
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  Warren   v\ *|    -----------------------------------------------
             V
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: .zip format
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:30:09 PST
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

> rhuynh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Richard Huynh) writes:
> 
> 
> >Hi,
> >	I have a problem with a .zip file, it seem that pkunzip doens't
> >recognise it. I can view the content of the .zip file but can't extract
> >it. Does anyone know which zip program may be able to extract this ?
> 
> I've heard that pkzip 1.93 alpha may be able to read these.  Seems some
> people are using this version when they shouldn't...

I have used DEZIP.EXE successfully at times when PKUNZIP doesn't
work.  Not sure why either.

Definately do not use V1.93 to ZIP if you wish to maintain
backward compatability.  Decompression works fine though.

Mileage can vary radically...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: PKzip 2.01??? What it is???
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 05:29:32 GMT

lauusitalo@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:


>        Hi,

>        Has anybody heard about PKZIP 2.01???? I got it and I
>        wonder how it fits in PKzip's other versions. I thought
>        that last version was something about 1.93 or so.

>        2.01 has ?new? compression scheme de/inflating, which does
>        not decompress with 1.10. Is it just another PKzip with
>        patched version number or is it trojan or something like that?

It's definitely not a sanctioned version.  I don't know for sure if
it's just a hacked version or if it's a trojan.  You certainly
shouldn't use it.  You should use v1.10; v1.93 is an alpha version.

Mike
--
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Tau Epsilon Phi - George Washington University		 can be a bitch."
mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu					  -Quantum Leap
Michael.Rosen@bbs.oit.unc.edu or @lambada.oit.unc.edu
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to start procomm+ from a batch file ....
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:56:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Dec18.215643.17222
Reply-To: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer) writes:

>Is it possible to start procomm+ from a batch file and have in dial the
>first entry in the autodial table?  I've tried using utilities like fakey
>to do this without luck.

Check the docs (mine aren't handy)

I seem to recall that you can make PCPLUS run a script file at startup.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Subject: SmartDRv  vs  HyperDisk
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:22:00 GMT


Hi,
I have a 386/40 with 8MB RAM. I use Borland's Paradox a lot and want to
add a better disk caching (sp?) software to my system as my HD does not
have built in Cache. Currently I am using SmarDrv (from Microsoft) and
want to move to HyperDisk. Before I do that I want to know the opinion of
you folks out there who have used this HyperDisk package before. I would
appreciate if you could share your impression of this product with me.
Is it any better than SmartDrv. Also if you use it, I would like to know
your favourite 'options' list (I plan to use Write thru feature as I dont
want to take any data-loss-risks).

What about other two Hyper Programs--HyperKey and HyperScreen. Are they
any usefull? Do they steel a lot of CPU cycles?

Thanks for your suggestions in advance.

Nasir Ahmed Noor
umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca
From: aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Video chipset in PS/VP
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:42:57 PST
Reply-To: aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us

In article <1992Dec14.105943.18534@reks.uia.ac.be>, vdeede@wins.uia.ac.be.uia.ac.be (Tom Van Den Eede) writes:
> 
> 	1) is there anybody who knows which chipset IBM used in its latest
> PS/VP series?  Some say a cirrus logic, others say an ET4000.
> 


On the 486SX valuepoint the VGA ID program that I designed
indicated ET4000. I was a bit surprised,  but if you say the
creator of VGA started buying VGA chips from those who cloned
the VGA and took away the market from IBM,  I'll believe it.

Aki.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: lauusitalo@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Stacker 3.0 Questions
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:53:10 GMT

In article <DLA.92Dec16071120@se05.wg2.waii.com>, dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker) writes:
>>>>>> On 15 Dec 92 10:42:28 GMT, lauusitalo@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi said:

 removed

> 	lauusitalo> PKZIP or PKLite or any other "conventional" compress program you affect
> 	lauusitalo> one file at time. These you can backup to tape individually and you can
> 	lauusitalo> save tape space. But if you copy stacked files to tape they take just

 removed
> 
> Does SuperStor work the same way as Stacker?  One big file?
> --
> Douglas L.Acker                Western Geophysical Exploration Products

Nice for you to quote my text, but I think people would appreciate not to
indent text so much. It is quite hard to read wrapped text.

Yes I am pretty sure SuperStor works same way.

Lauri

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: edso@watson.ibm.com (Edward So)
Subject: Re: Video chipset in PS/VP
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:37:47 GMT
Reply-To: edso@watson.ibm.com		
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

ET4000 in 486 machines, and Cirrus in 386 machines. They both support
most VESA modes.

-- 
Edward So,  Computing Systems, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
IBM VNET: EDSO at WATSON       Internet: edso@watson.ibm.com
From: kraai4712@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: How to create a "more" batch file?
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:27:01 -0600
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <gilligan.724122440@cs1.bradley.edu>, gilligan@cs1.bradley.edu (Edward Henigin) writes:
> In <1992Dec11.235700.19707@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:
>>Is there a way I can write a batch file that will allow me to type 
>>more file.txt
> more < file.txt
 or
> more < %1

Assuming you are successful in executing the batch file, it will throw you into
some effectively infinite recursion.

Here's how to fix it.

1)  Make sure that your MORE.BAT is ahead of your MORE.COM in your PATH.
2)  Give your MORE.BAT the full path to MORE.COM.

For example:

MORE.BAT
-----------------------------------
C:\DOS\MORE < %1

Of course this still wouldn't work of C:\DOS was your current working
directory, it would get the MORE.COM before it began searching the path.

To combat these problems, it would suffice to create a batch file with a
different name than MORE, so there wouldn't be any danger of tripping the
MORE.COM or of entering some non-ending recursion in a batch file.

If you want a way to type multiple filenames with pauses in-between, let me
know and I'll put it together for you.  It involves some intentional batch-file
recursion and is IMHO, very interesting.  It's exposed in the User-to-User
column of a recent PC Magazine.

Hope this complicated things hopelessly.  :-)    --jim
From: mbesonen@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Canon BJ-->HP LJ III/PCL5 emulator
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:42:39 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


         Has anyone ever had the chance to use LaserTwin 5.0 or an
         earlier version of the same program.  Apparently the program
         lets your Canon bubblejet printer emulate a HP LJ III with
         PCL5.  It's a temptingly cheap alternative to shelling out
         more money for a laser printer, given that you can get the
         program and a new Canon BJ 200 together for about $410 from
         Business Computer Systems (Computer Shopper, Jan 93, pg 967).

         Thanks in advance.
From: donnag@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Donna Griffiths)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:13:14 GMT
Subject: PC Bulletin Board Software?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc

I am looking into setting up a small bulletin board.
Any recommendations on software/etc?

Thanks!

Donna Griffiths
donnag@hpfcla.fc.hp.com
From: ashok@meds38956.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Need help with ".Z" files...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:04:00 GMT
Organization: CWRU School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: axa12-slip.dialin.cwru.edu

In article <1992Dec14.195419.5747@pcx.ncd.com> 
	chrisk@pcx.ncd.com (Chris Kessel) writes:

>In article <torresce.724340604@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.
>clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:

>>comptec91006@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Michael Botten) writes:
>>>This question doesn't really have much to do with this newsgroup, but I
>>>suspect someone here will know the answer.  So here goes nothing...
>>
>>>What needs to be done to files ending in '.Z'  (eg. filename.ext.Z) to make
>>>them usable?  I assume they are archived.  I guess I just need to know the
>>>name of the archiver so I can get it from an FTP server somewhere.
>>
>>Actually, doesn't .Z mean they are tar'ed?  I think compressed or packed is
>>small .z
>>If it is tared together, you will have to go into UNIX and untar it by
>>typing: tar xvf filename.ext.Z
>>In case I'm wrong, you can also do a 'man tar'

You're aren't quite right.  The *.tar extension indicates a "tarred" archive 
that needn't be compressed at all.  A *.tar.Z extension indicates a *.tar 
archive that has also been compressed with Unix compress.

There are MSDOS "untar" and "uncompress" programs available.  To handle a 
*.tar.Z file you would have to first uncompress the file with "uncompress" 
and then untar it using pdtar or an equivalent.

>
>There is also a .Z extension for a certain DOS compression program (just
>called compress I think).  It's used by some people because of it's 
>Windows compatibility (I guess pkzip isn't (or wasn't) windows compatible).
>You don't have to be in Windows to uncompress, but you do have to have the 
>compress program.

You got me completely lost here.  *.Z files have nothing to do with 
Microsoft Windows.  The last official release of PKZIP (1.10) will run 
within a Windows 3.x DOS box.  It however will not handle *.Z files.  This 
is similar to asking Unix compress to create *.zip files.

To the original poster -- I'm sure that you can find DOS tools to handle 
*.tar and *.Z files at many sites.  If you cannot, then FTP to
"shasta.scl.cwru.edu" and look in the directory "dos/compression".  There 
are tools available to handle both "*.tar" archives and "*.Z" compressed 
files.

Ashok
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                              Ashok Aiyar 
                      Department of Biochemistry
                       CWRU School of Medicine
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Stacker ate my hard disk again. : ( help....
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:21:26 GMT

In <1992Dec16.122516.21146@concurrent.co.uk>, Neil Watson writes:

>In article <92349.214819RFM@psuvm.psu.edu> RFM@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.212902.1390@rei.com>, fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) says:
>>>
>>>>   I don't think Stacker itself is unstable...either the 1.x or 2.0 or 3.0
>>>>versions, in so much as the comation of Stacker + some operating systems +
>>>>some drivers + some motherboards is unstable.  In other words, it no more
>>>>unstable than any other program.
>>>
>>>My experience seems to indicate that Stacker is as (un)stable as the
>>>person using it.
>>>
>>I take exception to this. I am as unstable as they come, but my STACKER
>>1.0 has been plunking along in a 20-meg notebook for 18 months or so.
>>I've got an unopened copy of Stacker 2.0 -- I'm afraid to mess with
>>what's been working ok up 'till now.
>>
>>BobM, PSU-Harrisburg

>I suspect that stacker (I use V2.1, but I guess it applies to all
>releases) is rather "picky" about getting stuff actually written to the
>disk!

>I run the (Windows 3.1 flavour) SMARTDRV disk cache, and have noticed
>that I seem to get a "rebuilding allocation ..." session on bootup if I
>have NOT taken care on closing down previously. By "taken care" I mean
>executed "smartdrv /c" to flush the buffers before switching off.

>I THOUGHT that smartdrv intercepted the 3-fingered-salute and did a
>flush, but it appears not to....


>I think that this (user) instability may have a lot to do with some of
>the stacker problems that people have. I guess that if you let the PC
>sit for a while before switching off, then the "timed" flush sorts
>things out too.

Aye, 'tis true that the "three-fingered salute" in the middle of an app will
giving you the "Updating allocation map..." message.  I've also encountered
a "volume damaged" (aka "you should have backed up your hard drive, dummy)
error on doing so--twice.  After the second time I scrapped Stacker and
have had no more bad sectors arise (version 2.0).

What happens when a program hangs up, though?  You can't exit normally and
gracefully.  You have no choice but to reset the machine.  I always tried to
avoid needing to turn the machine off while programs were actively running,
but it wasn't possible 100% of the time.


Tim Irvin
******************************************************************************
Microsoft Windows--from the folks who brought you EDLIN.
From: nnw@concurrent.co.uk (Neil Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Stacker ate my hard disk again. : ( help....
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:25:16 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation, Slough, England

In article <92349.214819RFM@psuvm.psu.edu> RFM@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.212902.1390@rei.com>, fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) says:
>>
>>>   I don't think Stacker itself is unstable...either the 1.x or 2.0 or 3.0
>>>versions, in so much as the comation of Stacker + some operating systems +
>>>some drivers + some motherboards is unstable.  In other words, it no more
>>>unstable than any other program.
>>
>>My experience seems to indicate that Stacker is as (un)stable as the
>>person using it.
>>
>I take exception to this. I am as unstable as they come, but my STACKER
>1.0 has been plunking along in a 20-meg notebook for 18 months or so.
>I've got an unopened copy of Stacker 2.0 -- I'm afraid to mess with
>what's been working ok up 'till now.
>
>BobM, PSU-Harrisburg

I suspect that stacker (I use V2.1, but I guess it applies to all
releases) is rather "picky" about getting stuff actually written to the
disk!

I run the (Windows 3.1 flavour) SMARTDRV disk cache, and have noticed
that I seem to get a "rebuilding allocation ..." session on bootup if I
have NOT taken care on closing down previously. By "taken care" I mean
executed "smartdrv /c" to flush the buffers before switching off.

I THOUGHT that smartdrv intercepted the 3-fingered-salute and did a
flush, but it appears not to....


I think that this (user) instability may have a lot to do with some of
the stacker problems that people have. I guess that if you let the PC
sit for a while before switching off, then the "timed" flush sorts
things out too.

Pure speculation....
Neil
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