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From: st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.)
Subject: QL: Deliver Us ... and The Leap Back
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:03:00 GMT

S P O I L E R   W A R N I N G



















Has anyone considered that the evil leaper's technology may have been
derived from the handlank that Al and Sam left behind in 1940-something?
This would be similar to the robotic arm and chip for the Terminator
films.  Sam has also told quite a few people about his leaping.  Just
recently, he told the government.  I know he has told a few other
people, but I can't remember who all.

In "Shock Theatre", Al gave away a bunch of stuff to that guy at the
mental hospital about how great the future was.  The maniac killer
that escaped out of the waiting room might want some revenge.  The
guy in "Future Boy" ALMOST had a working string-machine.

What I'm saying is that it is POSSIBLE that the evil leaper people may
have accelerator technology that _predates_ the PQL technology by a
number of years rather than being from the Future (past 1999).
From: mre@bofur.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Sci-fi channel
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:17:30 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bofur.unh.edu

[This post includes my previous post within in.]

Does anybody know when the Sci-Fi Channel will be airing the following movies?

		Space Children ('58)
		The Sorcerers ('??)
		

I'm also a big fan of the following TV shows, and was wondering if 
they will ever join the SFC's schedule:
	
		Galaxy Rangers
		Force Five
		Saber Rider
		Macron I
		Tomorrow People
		The Third Eye
		Super Force
	        

Thanks way early for replying.
				--MikE

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From: re@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Roderick Easton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: BLAKE'S 7: "Blake" transcript (long)
Keywords: Blake's 7, Chris Boucher
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:18:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

I was under the impression that we heard Servalon say something before the credits
started.  My idea of the episode end was

SERVALON:So we meet again ( or words to that effect)
Avon laughs maniacally, everything blacks out then we hear a single shot followed by
a fussilade.  Cut in theme music.
Dee da da, da da Dee da da.

Was I mistaken?  I definitely remember that we did not see her and having a
discussion about why we just heard her voice and didn't see her.  The reason I was
told was that her contract probavly had something in it about a number of appearances
and this final one would exceed it ( This was NOT from a reliable source so don't
quote me on it ). However I am sure that Servalon was present.

Rod
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From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Ran out of tape-- HELP!
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:31:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:

>In <1992Nov11.091125.60678@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne) writes:

>--

>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Alan S. Lurie, Esq., Time Traveller Extrordinaire = fletch@camelot.bradley.edu
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>       "Don't do anything that I wouldn't do.  But, if you do, take
>	pictures."
>		              -- Al, QUANTUM LEAP

Great .signature!!!!  Which episode is that from?  I don't remember it,
but IT'S SO AL!

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* Tracy E. Finifter			  *                                   *
*  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu		  *    "Leapers do it time after      *
*  Douglass College, Rutgers University   *        time after time..."        *
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From: dzembj@jec325.its.rpi.edu (Jason Eric Dzembo)
Subject: QL Episode Guide
Reply-To: dzembj@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:00:43 GMT

Okay, in the last couple of weeks there have been countless requests for the
Quantum Leap Episode Guide, both over the net and through e-mail.  So, in
preparation for tonight's episode, I'm going to repost it in its entirty
(Is that right?  Entirity?  Hmmm...well, anyway, I'm posting the whole thing.)
on rec.arts.tv.  The file is quite big, so there's no point doubling the
amount of space it's going to take up on the net.  Anyone who wants to see
it, should check there.  I wasn't planning on reposting it until about halfway
through the season (because of its size), and I probably won't post it again,
at least until January, so get it while you can.

						Respectfully Submitted,
						Jason E. Dzembo
						(Official Maintainer of the
						Quantum Leap Episode Guide)
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: ftp
Date: 9 Nov 1992 01:44:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

HEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!

I think I screwed up the address for the ftp site--the net couldn't find it.
Anybody know what the correct address is?  (I used ziggy.3com.com) I'll be very
much in your debt.  In fact, you'll already be paid, because I will travel back
in time and send you a check for $19.99, making sure you receive it in today's
mail ("today" being whatever day you reply.).  Okay?  Thanks.
				--Mike Escutia
					aka mre@kepler.unh.edu
					aka M_ESCUTIA@unhh.unh.edu
					aka MikEscutia

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"Time and space is a bitch!"--Gooshie, Kill'in Time  |Ladies and Gentlemen...
Believe it or not, these are my opinions!	     |the Mike has left 
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From: mss2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Deliver Us From Evil
Keywords: Evil Leaper From Hell
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:20:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.015704.21338@midway.uchicago.edu> ied1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.142724.7653@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mdp2842@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Perler) writes:

>>(3) How many evil leapers are there? I wonder about this because of my
>>    interpretation of the "hell" line. If Alia and Zoey aren't handling
>>    the really dirty jobs, then who is?

>You know, this only just occured to me, too.  Notwithstanding whether
>"hell" is a metaphor for a sh*tty job, or not -- there was competition
>implied, and that means there might be others.  And Sam's all alone. No
>wonder there were 17 floods and 3 earthquakes!

	"Well, Sam may not be all alone.  We may just not yet have
found out about the Quantum Leap Patrol established in 2010 with
hundreds of agents going back and dealing with the world's problems.
In a world of billions of people, Sam could go a _long_ time without
meeting any counterparts if they exist."

Mike
-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Indeed I tremble for my country
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 when I reflect that God is just."
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on
mss2@amber.uchicago.edu		    Virginia (1784)
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From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi Channel and Gerry Anderson
Originator: alberti@staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:16:21 GMT

In <1992Nov10.151124.9998@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

>In article <WHITE.92Nov9164222@hydro.mps.ohio-state.edu> white@hydro.mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master) writes:
>>
>>	Could someone please tell me if the Sci-Fi channel has started
>>airing Thunderbirds and/or Captain Scarlet, and also at what times they
>>are aired? 

>Every morning at 7:30, minnesota time, they are showing "Stingray", and I have
>a hunch that they will alternate other Gerry Anderson programs with it,
>much like "Galactica/Buck Rogers"

I've seen "Stingray," and the Sci-Fi channel has shown clips from "Captain
Scarlet" in some of their promos, but I've not seen anything on any other
Anderson puppet shows.  The only other Anderson series they broadcast is
"Space: 1999".

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Subject: Re: QL: Another Looking for 11/10 episode of Quantum Leap "Deliver us from Evil"
From: Chad Miller <chad@lilly.com>
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:54:00 EST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Eli Lilly and Company
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12X-XXDate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 12:51:15 GMTLines: 25

In article <1690@niktow.canisius.edu> David Salley,
salley@niktow.canisius.edu writes:
>My VCR was mis-programmed and didn't tape Quantum Leap while I was in my
>evening class.   (It was probably the work of the Evil Leaper ;-)  Is
there 
>anyone who can make me a copy of their tape?  I am willing to pay for
the 
>blank tape, postage both ways, and a little something for their time and 
>trouble.  Contact me by e-mail at the address in my .signature below. 
Help 
>a fellow Leaper get his Quantum fix. (after waiting two weeks for it, no
less)

Ditto.  (I would like the same done for me, and I'll pay for the same.)

In fact, I'll also throw in the hour of PBS that I taped by mistake.

Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.

/-----------------------\------------------------------\
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From: imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL:Interesting Ideas
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:25:15 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
X-Local-Date: Tuesday, 10th November 1992 at 5:24pm GMT
Originator: imc@msc8.comlab

In article <1677@niktow.canisius.edu>, salley@niktow.canisius.edu (David Salley) wrote:
|Sam leaps into Person A on Date D.  Two days later, he shakes hands with
|Person B.  He completes his mission and leaps... into Person B on Date D+1.
|The following day he shakes hands with Person A... and has the strangest 
|sense of deja vu ;-)

But what if he *didn't* shake hands with Person A that day? :-)

Ian Collier
Ian.Collier@prg.ox.ac.uk | imc@ecs.ox.ac.uk
From: mjm3170@zeus.tamu.edu (MATTSON, MATTHEW JUL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: New to the list.....
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:03:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I was searching the NET for a Quantum Leap group, but I think
I hit the spot when I stumbled across this group!

I was curious about reaction to the 11/10 episode.

Quantum Leap has just opened a whole new chapter with the
"evil leaper" concept!

I won't ask any questions about it, because it has probably been discussed
to death the past couple of days, and I'm still slightly confused about it!

Matthew Mattson
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From: @apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine)
Subject: Re: Covington Cross on Hiatus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:49:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Nov06.230847.28033@openage.openage.com>, ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes:
|> 
|> Read in the recent tv section of Washington Post that
|> Covington Cross (as well as Crossroads) is being put on hiatus.
|> Thought all  the Covington Cross haters in the newsgroup
|> would like to know about this.
|> -- 
|> 
|>                       Glenn E. Host - Reston, VA
|> Very grateful guest of Openage - the best SCO service shop in the area
|> ************* my views represent no one - not even myself. ****************

Bummer, I thought the show was improving...It had some really funny stuff.
	--Jennifer
	jlevine@apollo.hp.com
From: rjking@acsu.buffalo.edu (Randall J. King)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Deliver us from Evil (didn't see it, so Spoiler-free)
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:12:13 GMT
Organization: UB

I didn't get to see DufE because I had to work, and my VCR has lost the R
part ;).  From all the posts I have come up with a few ideas.

I liked the idea about Alia(sp?) being from an alternate future.  It's kinda 
"Back to the Future"-ish.  

Another idea:
What if Sam has been following her around.  What if Sam has been fixing what
she had just 'broken'?

Future points:
Watch the times we see her in.  If Sam's 'string' theory is right we can
eventually find out her age/time of leap.

Just some random thoughts from a guy who didn't see the ep.

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: DOOMWATCH, anybody?
Keywords: HUJIKLOPPY
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:29:57 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <BxD1nI.CDL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason) writes:
>  Heres a thought for you.
>  My favourite programme of the lot, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind,
>  is the BBC programme "Doomwatch" which ran on BBC1 between 1970 and 1972.
>  It concerns a newly created government department established to combat 
>  scientific advances which could be harmful to humans, nicknamed 'Doomwatch'.

As a matter of fact, this series was created by Gerry Davis and Kit Pedlar,
creators of the Cybermen in Doctor Who.  They also wrote a series of books
loosely based on Doomwatch -- "Mutant 59: The Plastic Eaters" is actually
pretty decent.
From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: "Deliver Us..."  (spoilers)
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:03:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

First impressions of "Deliver Us From Evil"

Possible spoilers ahead so procede with caution...



























Okay, well, gee.  I don't really know quite what to think of it yet.  Maybe
after I see it two or three more times.  I think it raised a whole lot more
questions than it answered (of course, that was probably the point).  Like
where did Alia *really* come from?  If she and Zoey are really agents of the
Devil, then why do they need their own version of Ziggy?  (BTW, I'm really
bad at catching references, so if anyone has any idea whether their computer's
name meant anything special, please let me know.)  Also, how long have they
been traveling in time?  My roomate's theory is that there would be no need
for Sam Beckett to put right what once went wrong if Fate controlled
everything, so it makes sense that Sam would have an evil counterpart.  It
would be her doings, not God's or Time's or Fate's mistakes that he and Al
would have to change.

I've never been one to believe in absolute Good or absolute Evil.  But, as my
roommate also pointed out, Alia wasn't absolute Evil otherwise she would have
shot Sam.  On the same point, I think we've seen that Sam isn't absolute Good
either.  But they're both enough of the extreme to balance each other out and
champion their side.  Neither do I believe in God or the Devil (at least the
way they've been depicted on QL) and I've always been content to believe that
Sam was just there to fix things when people have turned left in their lives
when they should've gone right.  I'm really not sure how I feel if he's really
a soldier for God battling the soldier for the Devil.  It seems far too removed
from his original ideas for Project Quantum Leap.  (Not to mention, it also
bothers me that if the U.S. government has been using (or will use, actually)
our tax dollars for a project which is being used as God's tool for fighting
Evil, where did Alia's project come from?  After all, Project Quantum Leap was
Sam's creation, not divine creation, unless you want to argue that God gave Sam
the ability to build it.  And if Alia and Zoey are to be exact opposites of Sam
and Al, then it would stand to reason that their project came from a similar
source.


Oh well, time will tell...


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*  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu		  *    "Leapers do it time after      *
*  Douglass College, Rutgers University   *        time after time..."        *
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From: msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": observations
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:04:11 GMT
	<1992Nov11.093244.6479@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

>I had mixed reactions about the EL as well -- I liked the idea of her, but I
>have to say I am not crazy about the actress who plays her.

If you watched QL in the Boston area, you got to see her on the Kay
Jeweler's commercial at the end of the episode.  A friend won a "TV
Geek" award for recognizing her *before* we saw the commercial.

						Michael
--
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Department of Civil Engineering Computer Lab TA / to be utterly and
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From: jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Subplots
Summary: Ranting to the newsgroups won't cause any improvement.
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:32:19 GMT

In message <1992Nov11.023308.7401@grebyn.com>, billones@grebyn.com (Jeremy Billones) writes:
>I HATE split-plot stories!  My worst fear going into this episode was ...

Jeremy, are you ever going to learn?

1) The proper term is subplot, not "split-plot".

2) The use of subplots is a standard device for dramatic works.  You will
   find them all over the place; in novels, plays, movies, and TV shows.

3) Intelligent people do not have problems with subplots.  They understand
   how subplots make stories more interesting by adding to the dramatic
   tension.
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From: hamlet@zeus.tamu.edu (Rosencrantz & Guildinstern are dead!)
Subject: Re: QL:Interesting Ideas
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:39:00 GMT

In article <96182@netnews.upenn.edu>, jneff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joseph D. Neff) writes...
>In article <1992Nov4.195523.4118@netcom.com> sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:
>>In article <Nov.3.22.41.42.1992.4304@gandalf.rutgers.edu> finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:
>>
>T>>On a related note, I always thought it's been a double standard that while
>T>>Sam's leaped into men, he's had to kiss and assume other compromising
>T>>positions (ahem) with women, but he's never had to kiss, etc. men when he's
>T>>been a woman.
> 
>S>Chalk this one up to timid networks who are afraid of the ranting
>S>rightwingers. 
> 
>How about a scene like this?  Sam-as-woman hugs male, zoom on them
>looking at each other, then pull back to a convenient mirror which
>shows the woman leapee kissing the male.  It's not as challenging for
>Scott, but it has a better chance of passing the censors.
> 
A very similar thing was done in the movie "Ghost".  Patrick Swayze's
ghost posesses Whoopi Goldberg's body, in she has an intimate scene with
Demi Moore.  It was very tastefully done.

		-Hamlet
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From: larne@canetoad.UUCP (Larne Pekowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: re: QL: DUFE, what they cut from the script, major SPOILERS!!
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:49:02 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

In article <1992Nov11.211933.7039@netcom.com> sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
writes:



>Anyway, for the third time, I'm going to type up the parts of the script
>that got cut, at least off my copy, an earlier version.

Thank you very, very much for posting this.  It's really quite amazing
what a few lines can do, like in this case change the whole focus of
the episode.  These few lines get rid of the biggest of my problems,
which was the overwhelming supernatural content.  It shifts the
attention to Alia's plight, and hence to the human level, where I
wanted it all along.  Of course she's still working for someone or
something evil, and it's a safe bet that the Bman is behind it at
some level.  But if he's as far removed from her as GTF is from Sam
I don't really have a problem with it.

So that's my biggest complaint gone.  I still have a few smaller ones,
mainly the undoing of time at the end and the fact that Alia is still
a weak character (if she were as strong in her convictions as Sam is
in his she would have just told Lothos to bugger off the first time
he demanded something objectionable to her).

However, I think I can overlook these now that the base story is more
to my tastes.  Given the situation as I now know it I am once again
interested in Alia's story.  And Zoey's for that matter.  I'm hoping
she's just trying to help her friend do whatever she needs to so she
can get home, and that she's not evil either.  Lines like:

>ZOEY: Listen to me, Alia. Lothos will send you back to your worst
>nightmare if you don't pull that trigger.

could be taken as either a threat or an expression of concern.

I wonder how wonderful QL would be if the writers weren't at all
constrained by time or commercials or ratings or network pinheads.
I can't even begin to imagine anything that good.

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