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/ hplsla:rec.motorcycles.dirt / kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) /  4:28 am  Jan 26, 1993 /
Dances With Bikers (blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com) wrote:
: erikn@vcd.hp.com (Erik Ness) writes:
: >Dances With Bikers (blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com) wrote:
:  
: >:  Now I can just putt up into the bed of the truck. I wouldn't
: >: care to try the stunt on a 2-wheeler, but it works perfectly with the
:                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
: One reason I haven't been inclined to try it, is a guy I used to work
: with did it. He had a jacked up shortbed Chevy, and had only had the
: YZ490 a couple of weeks. He made it into the bed ok, but wasn't ready
: for the sudden stop at the end, and went over the bars onto the roof.
: And the hood. And the ground in front of the truck.

Its really not that hard.  I finally got the nerve to try it after some
trail work on the Pikes Peak Enduro last year.  Just remember that there
ain't much room to stop.  I rode into the bed of a Toyota pickup and 
almost did what was described above.  After the first time, you learn
to ride up slower :-).  6 feet ain't much room to stop.

: Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
: 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:

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From: mengel@den.mmc.com (Mark Engel)
Subject: Re: Flywheel weight
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:01:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.233446.8579@selway.umt.edu> mtrhead@selway.umt.edu (Josh Harmon) writes:
>During extensive repair of my CR500 (top end, reeds, pipe, etc.),
>I have questioned weighting my flywheel, either through Moose Racing
>which would be permanent or other brands that can be removed.  
>
>I ride off-road 90% of the time and need the motor to lug better for 
>more control.  My understanding is that I can get this benefit from
>a heavier flywheel, but what other possible side effects will there 
>be?  
>
>I do plan to run some local MX races in the 500 beginner class, and 
>at least two area enduros, so I am leaning toward the removable type 
>of flywheel weight.  Moose says that the removable kind will eventually 
>lossen and come off, I would hope a little blue Loctite and periodic 
>inspection would keep this from happening.
>
>If anyone has experience with this modification please elaborate, 
>will a permanent weight hurt MX performance? and will a removal weight
>possibly and tragically remove itself?  Does fourteen ounces (Moose's
>usual amount) make that much difference anyway?
>
>Looks like Kiedrowski might be a major force in the Supercross Series 
>this season, anyone attend the last two races?
>-- 
>-- Josh Harmon ---- 88 CR500R -- 88 GSX600F -- DoD: #1137 --
>::: mtrhead@selway.umt.edu ::: cs senior :::: Go Dallas! :::
>------------------------------------------------------------
>

Josh,

Fourteen ounces is ALOT.  You're talking about something that needs
rotational inertia - to the tune of up to 15,000 rpm.  That kind of
torque can easily remove a removable weight in a single moto - thus
turning your rebuild engine into scrap.  And possibly destroying
your knee.  If you are going to mod the flywheel, make it a permanent
mod - and then check it periodically for stress fractures, cracks, etc.
The modified one will never be as strong as a single cast original.

The engine will have alot more low end power as well as a strengthened
mid range.  The down side?  It will not rap up/out as high as it used
to or as fast.  If you're racing motorcross - leave it alone.  If you're
trail riding, make the mod.

Mark Engel ---------- 89 KDX200, 91 KX 125, 84 GPZ 550...........
............soon to be the proud owner of a 89/91 KX 200.........
From: shirley@frame.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: shirley
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:52:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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>Merf said:
>>Shirley you jest?

>Hey, don't bring Shirley into this...


OK, careful guys.  One more crack about my name and I'll
dump Bultaco spares all over your yard...
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Just send beer....
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:57:11 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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Jim Brewer (jjb@dtc.hp.com) wrote:

: >DOS XX . It takes some getting used to.

: In article <1jic01INN6om@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant) writes:
: >	Pronounced dose ecki. The dose ecki dark is actually purty good.

:   Just to pick nits, it's dos equis. (dose e'kees), cleverly meaning
: two x. 

:   I was suprized at seeing XXXX (that's foo eks to you, mate) in Queensland

			     ^^^^ cuatro equis?


Of all the Mexican beers I've tried, I like either Tecate or Negro Modelo best.
If you buy it in Mexico, Corona ain't bad.  It doesn't have the USFDA required
'stuff' in it there and has a much better flavor, IMHO.




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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Houston Supercross results!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:34:26 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: dvinci.usask.ca

kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:

>: 	#2 Cooper			#2 Lawrence
>           ^^^^^
>	   Cooper?  As in GUY Cooper?  HOORAY.  Everybody 
>	   that would like to see the good guy win one for
>	   a change, stand up.
> 
>  O                
> <M>  
>_/ \_       

>: Go Guy Cooper!!!

>Ditto!

Me, too!!! Is he still riding the Yellow Monsters, or on something new this 
season!!

Dave
-- 
David Donald - donald@dvinci.usask.ca	| "Get rich quick, or poor slowly."
Communications Systems Research Group	|		- R. J. Bolton, Ph.D. 
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.	| (Who, incidentally, also spent some 
"The Great White North" (tm)		| time in the land of Oz...Coincidence?) 
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From: eastman@bnr.ca (Gordon Eastman)
Subject: Anaheim SX results?
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:39:23 GMT

Can someone post the results? Cycle News should be out in California by
now; mine won't show up for another 8-10 days.

Gordon   1990 KX200
____________________________________________________________________________
Standard disclaimer: opinions are mine, not BNR's
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: another sponsor
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:55:44 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <1993Jan19.220355.4920@spdc.ti.com>, baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter) writes:
> That's right, I have another sponsor if I want one.  Race Tech is offering me
> the B sponsorship which is basically 20% off everything.  They sent me a 
> contract to look over, sign and return to them.  I have to read it a few more
> times and make a few phone calls before I do it.  It may not be worth just a
> 20% discount.  

  It might not hurt, if its of no real expense to you.  Now is the time that
  you should be leaving your calling card everywhere you can.  Race Tech
  will be just another addition to the resume for the 94 season.

  Good going,
Framp..
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From: mtrhead@selway.umt.edu (Josh Harmon)
Subject: Re: Flywheel weight
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:53:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.010127.177@den.mmc.com>, mengel@den.mmc.com (Mark Engel) writes:
> Josh,
> 
> Fourteen ounces is ALOT.  You're talking about something that needs
> rotational inertia - to the tune of up to 15,000 rpm.  That kind of
> torque can easily remove a removable weight in a single moto - thus
> turning your rebuild engine into scrap.  And possibly destroying
> your knee.  If you are going to mod the flywheel, make it a permanent
> mod - and then check it periodically for stress fractures, cracks, etc.
> The modified one will never be as strong as a single cast original.
> 
> The engine will have alot more low end power as well as a strengthened
> mid range.  The down side?  It will not rap up/out as high as it used

I spend alot of time in the lower end of the powerband (due to the local
terrain, or some say it was my 4-stroke upbringing), so more power off 
the bottom and through midrange will be great. I did opt for the 
permanent modification from Moose, in the interest of reliability.

> to or as fast.  If you're racing motorcross - leave it alone.  If you're
> trail riding, make the mod.
> 
> Mark Engel ---------- 89 KDX200, 91 KX 125, 84 GPZ 550...........
> ............sOBoon to be the proud owner of a 89/91 KX 200.........

Congrats on your KX project, nice to hear that creativity and mechanical
dexterity are alive and well!

My endless search of info on "rotational inertia" led me to an article in
the Feb '93 issue of Dirt Rider.  This article outlines the modifications
that DR made to their 250 motocrossers.  Much to my chagrin, two of the 
four machines had flywheel weight added to increase tractability: the RM, 
and the KX.  If these 250's benefit from flywheel weight, my 500 should 
love it!  BTW, both of the weights used were of the removable type so 
someone out there trusts them, but I have my reservations.
-- 
-- Josh Harmon ---- 88 CR500R -- 88 GSX600F -- DoD: #1137 --
::: mtrhead@selway.umt.edu ::: cs senior :::: Go Dallas! :::
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From: rasimus@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Gagiva 900
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:57:52 GMT



        Would someone tell, how much does Gagiva 900
        cost (appr.) in States?

        Arto

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From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: Re: Moab '93
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:40:43 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>There's been some chatter on the Joust mailing list, but we might as
>well do it here where it belongs. :-)

a-WOmen.

>For some reason, folks think that a repeat performance this year is a
>good idea. :-)

still got teeth?


anyway, i'd like to go.  L & i have been jabbering back and forth
about plans this summer.  besides the joust in mid-july, we'd like to
go to (considered harmful) the grand canyon.  i hear that's not too
far from yu-tah.  rather than being involved in the planning, i think
we'll just let it happen and try to make it.

later,
-- 
-- 
-- bob pasker
-- rbp@netcom.com
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: bultaco spares
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:22:09 GMT

rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) writes:
>john@coombs.anu.edu.au (john n) writes:

>>what is a bultaco???? is it some kind of mexican food?

>i guess its a motorcycle.  saw an ad for a bultaco matador recently.
>anyone know exactly what that is?

That would be the one where it's a 50-50 chance whether you or the bike
gets gored when you ride it. :-)

Bultaco was a Spanish make, known for a variety of interesting dirt bikes
about 15 years ago. I don't know if Senor Bulto went broke, or if they
just stopped exporting to the US.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: A taste of Texas
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:36:15 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Andy Weaver (aweaver@epcot.spdc.ti.com) wrote:
: I didn't hurt anything and I didn't even land in the last whoop.  I was only
: a foot or two from being in it, I usually land in a mud hole if there is
: one available, something about Murphy's law :).

There it goes again.  I'm gettin blamed -n- I din't even go riding! :-)

: Andy 

BTW, reading all the "ride up the ramp" posts reminded me of one of the funniest
articles I've ever read in a moto rag.  Wolf Webb tried to ride his scooter
up the ramp and into his van.  Everything went well until he forgot to duck as
he entered the door.  Got cleaned off by the roof and stuck the front
wheel between the front seat and pretty much damaged everything that wasn't 
made of Kevlar in the process.



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From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt,rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Canadian National Ice Racing Series
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:33:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: gandalf.1993Jan26.143352.28255
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.




The Canadian National Ice Racing Series begins
this weekend with 2 races.

Sat Jan. 30  -  Aylmer Quebec
Sun Jan. 31  -  Tetford(sp?) mines Quebec

I don't know why they have decided to have two races
the same weekend at different locations. I haven't
been to Tetford mines yet, but I believe it's about
a 6 hour drive from Aylmer.

Whether I make the trip to Tetford will depend on my
results at Aylmer. I have no feel for how fast they
are at the national level, so I may get blown away.

If any of you local boys can make it to either of these
races, I'll be riding #44 (if it isn't already taken) in
the Junior class (red numbers on white background). If
44 is taken, I'll probably turn it into 14, 41 or 11.

So far this year I've ridden a couple of times at about
-18C and a couple of times at about +2C. The jetting that
seemed to work was main-200 , needle clip-second richest,
pilot 68,   and main-165, needle clip-centre, pilot 65.
I suspect I could have left the pilot unchanged and adjusted
the air screw instead; I think I'll try this next time.

Russell


-- 
**         Russell Wardman         ** 78 TT-500 (for sale)             **
**          613-723-6500           ** 84 Turbo 750 KAWASAKI (for sale) ** 
**       Ottawa Ont. Canada        ** 90 KX 500 KAWASAKI               **
**      (rwardman@gandalf.ca)      **                                  **
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Flywheel weight
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:11:43 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Mark Engel (mengel@den.mmc.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan18.233446.8579@selway.umt.edu> mtrhead@selway.umt.edu (Josh Harmon) writes:

: Mark Engel ---------- 89 KDX200, 91 KX 125, 84 GPZ 550...........
: ............soon to be the proud owner of a 89/91 KX 200.........

.... as spoken by the NEW Chairman of the Rocky Mountain Enduro Circuit. :-)

Hi Mark,  

BTW, Pueblo was snowy on Sunday.  They got 2 inches of the white stuff on 
Saturday.  Made for some slick practice.  Next weekend, barring more snow,
should be primo.  You and Paul up for a ride?

Merf
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Guy Cooper (was Re: Houston Supercross results!)
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:18:22 CDT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <eastman-220193005055@47.220.11.40>, eastman@bnr.ca (Gordon Eastman) writes:
> He still tries harder than anyone and is way overdue for a Supercross win.
> Hope 1993 is his year.

  He's got to be getting close to 32 now right?  Wouldn't it be neat
  for us old folks if he stayed in at least until 35.  He's bound to
  have tenure with Zookie by now.

  They really should have sent him to represent the US as Stanton suggested.
_________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton....O/30 NOVICE   |  That which doesn't kill us makes for
X-Country?!? What next?!?      |    a better taste of beer afterwards.
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |                            modified A.W.
-------------------------------*-----------------------------------------
  The Zook is no longer for sale.  You should have bought it before it
  got turned into a rocket. A tweek here, a tweak there. 8-)
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 14:59:18 GMT
Subject: Re: XL 250 is too cold to start
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

In rec.motorcycles.dirt, jfreund@relleno.engr.ucdavis.edu (Jason Freund) writes:

> 	Its about 30-50 degrees this time of the year here in the mid morning.
> I haven't been able to start my 86 XL 250 all week -- even by pushing it.
> I've heard from several other people that their XL's have trouble starting
> in the cold too.  It has a fairly new plug, the battery is great, and the
> compression is excellent and the cable hooked up to the kicker is ok.
> 
> 	I'm having the ceurberator professionally cleaned this weekend too.
> Can anyone think of anything I can do to get it to start?  I'd like to tell
> the people at the shop to do something to fix it besides clean the ceurb, to
> get it to start.  BTW, is it possible to hook up an electric start ignition
> to this kind of bike?  How much would that cost?

I think that so far every one is pretty far off on this problem.  C'mon,
it's only 30-50 degrees out.  It shouldn't be that hard to start.  I can
kick over my XR600 in 5 degree weather after it's been sitting for months.
You shouldn't need ether (note correct spelling) at these temperatures.  As
far as I know, my bike doesn't even have a battery. 

I'd say that the first thing you should do is to check your choke.  Make
sure the butterfly is opening and closing properly.  Next, sort out the
jetting.  A too lean idle and low speed circuit will make cold weather
starting miserable.  I would guess that the EPA reg's imposed on the XL
make it painfully lean with stock jetting.  

Lastly, only girly men would think of getting an electric starter on a
250cc bike. :-) I'm unaware of any drop-in components.  You might take a look
at an NX250 to see if the starter could be adapted.  I suspect that it may
require different cases.   You're looking at hundreds of dollars that will
not fix the problem if it is related to jetting.  

-Jeff Deeney-  DoD#0498    NCTR(President)     '88 XR600-Shamu 
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop kick starting because we get old, 
                       we get old because we stop kick starting.
From: jkrump@maximo.enet.dec.com (John Krumpotick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: CR250 dust cap removal?
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:49:23 GMT
Reply-To: jkrump@maximo.enet.dec.com (John Krumpotick)
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: maximo.abo.dec.com



Howdy;

I'm about to knock down my rear shock/swingarm to grease the sucker up.  This
is the first time I've done it and I was taking a look at the dust caps on
the swingarm.  

They seem to be a mighty soft plastic and I was wondering if anyone had a 
good method for popping them off before I go in there and probably tear 
the things up.

Thanks, John K.
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From: baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter)
Subject: Re: CR250 dust cap removal?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:05:06 GMT

In article <1jofv3INNcnl@lemans.det.dec.com> jkrump@maximo.enet.dec.com (John Krumpotick) writes:
>
>
>Howdy;
>
>I'm about to knock down my rear shock/swingarm to grease the sucker up.  This
>is the first time I've done it and I was taking a look at the dust caps on
>the swingarm.  

Better do it often if you ride in any wet situations.  

>
>They seem to be a mighty soft plastic and I was wondering if anyone had a 
>good method for popping them off before I go in there and probably tear 
>the things up.
>
>Thanks, John K.

Just slide a very small screwdriver between the plastic and the swingarm and
they will pop off easily.

_____________________________________________________________________________
DoD #359                    '91  CR250 |         Mike Baxter   
AMA #607249                      #P61  |              
TCCRA  #P61  "Team D."                 |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
Pro Class	                       |
Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.   
50 miles of off-road Hell (FUN)        |  
_______________________________________|_____________________________________
Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed above are my very own, becuase 
             if they were worth anything TI would patent them.
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From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: Re: bultaco spares
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:57:45 GMT

john@coombs.anu.edu.au (john n) writes:
>what is a bultaco???? is it some kind of mexican food?

i guess its a motorcycle.  saw an ad for a bultaco matador recently.
anyone know exactly what that is?
-- 
-- 
-- bob pasker
-- rbp@netcom.com
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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: bultaco spares
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:12:00 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

john n (john@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: what is a bultaco???? is it some kind of mexican food?

Shirley you jest?  

Merf
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: RMEC Schedule
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:09:12 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Mike Sturdevant (ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:

: In a previous article, kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) says:

: >Ok, Teem(computer)Geek, which event(s) are you going to do?

: 	Any of those at the Zink Ranch? Tulsa maybe?

The Tulsa race is on the Zink Ranch, on Halloween.  Ever seen the 
Tulsa Trail Riders 'colors'?  Yep, you guessed it.  Orange and black.
I talked to the promoters of this race last weekend and they said...

".. last race of the season, and I thought the best"
".. pretty low turnout though (see above), about 180 people"
".. fun trails, fun event"

Just talking to and meeting the promoters, my impressions are that 
these are a bunch of guys who enjoy what they do.  I plan to make
all three, but the job may interfere.

: >Maybe we can talk the TexasNeonGlitter boyz to ride the ones in OK?

or maybe make a 12 hr trip to Woodland.  Its 12 hours from Dallas to 
Colorado Springs.  Done the drive 5-6 times when I lived in Dallas.
Come on up.  I can almost guarantee that Woodland (listed as Teller 
County in AMA schedule) will be a 100% kick ass event with little or
no two track.  A place to stay would be no problem.  Just let us know.

: >Maybe we can do a TeemRMD at one of the events?

: 	HOOOBoooy, this is gonna be dangerous. I'm ready.

Me too.  I'm sick of 25F 'highs'.  Supposed to be 50 today and 
Friday, turning shitty just in time for the weekend.

: Go fast. Take chances.

I'd love to.  Got someplace that ain't covered in snow to try it at?

: 	Mike S.


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