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From: ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Tcl/tk
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:16:22 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA

Hello all,

	Where can I find the tcl/tk toolkit, other than from
sprite.berkeley.edu?  I can not access that site.

Thanks
ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: XTerm for OPEN-LOOK
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:35:38 GMT

khan@us17502 (Naseer Khan) writes:

>[ Article crossposted from comp.windows.open-look ]
>[ Author was Naseer Khan ]
>[ Posted on Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:14:38 GMT ]


>Hi All,

>I've done a lot of searching recently for xterm, the program that works
>as an Open Look "look-and-feel" application.  I have xterm from the
>general X11R5 distribution at export.lcs.mit.edu and have it working.
>But, that one is Xt based, I believe with the Scrollbar at the left, etc.


Erm, there's cmdtool, which is an XView term. emulator - I've
only seen it briefly, and it didn't let me use tab to expand my filenames,
so i wasn't particularly happy, but it IS an XView program...

Enjoy !

Cos !
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: chris@luchs (Christian Forst)
Subject: 3-D data plotting
Keywords: 3-D plot, xvgr, khoros
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:56:49 GMT

Hi.

I'm looking for a 3-dim. data-plotting package just like xvgr but in
3-dimensions. I know about khoros but I want s/t with less code around.

	Christian
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From: envbvs@epb11.lbl.GOV (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: xfig 2.1.6 available on export
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:21:42 GMT

Well, it has only been about a week since I released xfig 2.1.5, but there
were some pretty major bugs so I have made version 2.1.6 available.

Transfig has also been updated because of its own bugs so I have posted
an announcement for it separately.

Here is the announcement:

xfig 2.1.6 is available on export.lcs.mit.edu in /contrib/R5fixes/xfig-patches/
xfig.2.1.6.tar.Z.  Be sure to set binary mode when transferring.

There is also an incremental patch file to convert from 2.1.5 to 2.1.6.  This
is in the file /contrib/R5fixes/xfig-patches/2.1.5.to.2.1.6.Z.  You may use
the 'patch' program to automatically apply the changes to your 2.1.5 release.

You also need to get TransFig version 2.1.6.  TransFig contains the post-
processor needed by xfig to convert fig files to one of several output formats,
such as PostScript, pic, LaTeX etc.  The TransFig package is in the file
/contrib/transfig.2.1.6.tar.Z.

Xfig is a menu-driven tool that allows the user to draw and manipulate objects
interactively in an X window.  The resulting pictures can be saved, printed
on postscript printers or converted to a variety of other formats (e.g. to
allow inclusion in LaTeX documents).

Following is a description of the CHANGES for 2.1.6.

Patchlevel 6
Changes to Patchlevel 5:

BUG FIXES:

o typo in man pages with menu item "Textyl \special commands" in export menu
o action changed from "cancel" to "dismiss" for print menu accelerator
o bug in Intrinsics? on Sun Monochrome prevented side ruler from scrolling
o was using ellipse routine to draw circles - was choppy for small circles
o cast comparison function argument to qsort
o rotated ellipses don't become coarse as they are zoomed 

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: Shannon Merrill <smerrill@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu>
Subject: Thank you! (was FAQ Request)
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:16:59 GMT

Just a quick note to thank those who sent me the FAQ I needed.  Your help
is greatly appreciated!

--Shannon Merrill
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: korp@eid.anl.gov (Peter A. Korp)
Subject: Re: Looking for Comments on Visix's Galaxy
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:09:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.190307.6088@netcom.com> joey@netcom.com (Joseph P.  
Jarosz) writes:
> If I believe their marketing literature, Visix's Galaxy product is every 
> developer's dream. It claims to be a complete cross-platform development 
> environment that supports everything from Sun to MS-windows.
> 
> My question to the net is, has anybody out there used Galaxy? And if so, 
> what do you think about it.
> 
> thanx,
> joeyj@metasw.com (joey@netcom.com)

	I would also be interested in any word aobut Galaxy...

We are preparing to launch into a *large* scale project and need to make a  
decision soon, the favorite so far is ViewCenter and I have not been able
to get anyone from Visix to talk to us for 2 months..

Thanks for any info,
--
	Peter A. Korp
	Assistant Scientist
	Argonne National Laboratory
	korp@eid.anl.gov
From: brennan@seismo.CSS.GOV (Mary Ann Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: WCL Template directory
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:54:11 GMT
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA


I've made a WCL template and it works fine as long as I execute the
application while in the directory where the template file is located.
I was hoping to be able to keep it in a resource directory specified by
XFILESEARCHPATH but it doesn't work:

Wcl Warning: WcTemplateInitialize(): could not load template file CT_Spread

Wcl Warning: spread.main.base.spreadform cannot find template CT_Spread
Wcl Warning: spread.main.base.spreadform.wcCreate resource missing - need class or constructor

same thing if I use a full path (the error message lists the full path however).

WCL 2.02, X11R5, SUN SPARCstation

What am I missing?
	Thanks,
	Mary Ann Brennan
From: Paul.Gronke@launchpad.unc.edu (Paul Gronke)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Gronke addres (re: help w/ XAppeal)
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:23:50 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


Sorry, forgot to include address in previous post:
 GRONKE@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU  or GRONKE@BBS.OIT.UNC.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: block@eye.UCalgary.CA (Edward Block)
Subject: XView for A/UX 3.0
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:41:08 GMT

Hi:
    Can anyone tell me whether XView that runs under X11R4 (XView 2, I think) is available
for A/UX 3.0

Thanx.
From: bnc@s-link.escape.de (Heiko Gerstung)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Help me , pleeeeeease !
Organization: -S-LINK-> Public Mailbox, Braunschweig, Germany
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:24:00 +0100


     Mail from H.Gerstung (bnc@s-link.escape.de) DATE 22.11.92 TIME 13:24 MET

 Hi y'all !

 I have just installed my first Linux (V0.96c). I have a big problem
 with my X11 system. I don't know how to install/start it ! My
 config:

 386SX25 4 MB RAM, 50 MB Linux partition

 My swap space was defined on a 12 MB partition, but every time I run "free"
 it only displays 3 MB swap mem ! When I installed Linux, I defined a 3 MB
 swap partition, perhaps that's the point ?!

 If there's anyone out there who can help me, please write back !
 I don't wanna install MS-Windows at all ...

    bye for now,

      Heiko / B N C



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: bala@arrinext.uta.edu (R. Balachander)
Subject: need for software (running on X) to create drawings
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:34:41 GMT

hi,

I need software (running on X) which is in public domain  to create
drawings. ( lines , circles, arcs , ellipses).
Should be able to store it as bitmapped image or in a raster format.

Should be able to create high resolution drawings.

Could you send me replies about this to:

" bala@arrisun3.uta.edu "
or
" bala@arrinext.uta.edu "
From: mrs@payne.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael Robert Savage)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: xmail problems
Followup-To: mrs@payne.mps.ohio-state.edu
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:12:01 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Astronomy Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: payne.mps.ohio-state.edu

Dear X Window People:

 We are running X11 R4 on various types of SUN SPARCstations. One
machine, an IPC, has trouble running xmail. It runs and works OK
except for the following problems:

  (1) System shutdown broadcast messages freeze xmail up. It will
      no longer work and killing xmail is the only way to exit and
      restarting is necessary for full function to be restored.

  (2) Sometimes xmail will die if you try to copy (using CC:) another
      user.

If any one has expierence in fixing these problems or knows about

Take care and have a great day.

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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Wanted: Post-it notes
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:46:47 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy

In article <1992Nov23.142923.25111@newscan.canada.sun.com>,
marc@betelgeuse.Canada.Sun.COM (Marc St-Hilaire Canadian Dev. Ctr -
Montreal) writes:
|> 	Would someone know of an X application that creates windows with
|> arbitrary
|> text in them like post-it notes?

In the MIT contrib tapes you will find xpostit, which exactly what you
want. On export.lcs.mit.edu there's an additional patch in
/contrib/xpostit.patch01.shar.Z.
And if you also want to save the iconification state of a Post-it note: I
have made some changes to achieve that, too.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mikeg@Ingres.COM (Mike Glendinning)
Subject: Minor Problem with X11R5 Public Patch 19 (shared PEXlib).
Organization: Ingres Corporation
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:43:39 GMT

There is a minor problem with the Imakefile for PEXlib supplied
with R5 public patch 19.  The PEXlib shared library is installed
in $LIBDIR, but should really be in $USRLIBDIR, unless there is
some perverse reason why this particular library doesn't want
to live along with the others...

-Mike Glendinning, Ingres UK.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: johnson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Chris Johnson)
Subject: bandwidth use of X
Summary: banwidth use of X
Keywords: ethernet bandwidth
Organization: Northeastern University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:47:17 GMT

     Hi.

     Northeastern University is building a new network.  We're planning
on running X from pc's, Mac's, DECstations, X terminals, etc.  I'm
looking for pointers to people, data, test programs, whatever. where I can
get some kind of statistics on bandwidth use by "typical" X
applications.  I care what "typical" means in the sense that I need to
know what X applications where doing at the time.

     The point is to try and characterize and plan for network growth.
I have both WAN and LAN.  The LAN is Ethernet off of an FDDI ring.

     Any help appreciated.  Thanks much.

Chris Johnson
Northeastern University.
From: fpb@ittc.wec.com (Frank P. Bresz)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: TVTWM on X11/R5
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:37:18 GMT
Organization: Westinghouse, ITTC, Pgh, PA.
In-reply-to: fpb@ittc.wec.com's message of 20 Nov 92 13:14:22 GMT


	Probably should have mentioned that /cdrom was the SUG CD for GNU,
	X11/R5.  Also autoraise doesn't seem to work in the other quadrants
	either
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From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: Resizing a pixmap
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:57:33 GMT

In <MELBY.92Nov16005529@dove.yk.Fujitsu.CO.JP>
melby@dove.yk.Fujitsu.CO.JP (John B. Melby) writes:
>>I'm looking for a quick way to resize a pixmap. Any suggestion will be
>>appreciated.
>
>Unfortunately the server does not handle this.  In the general case,
>a pixmap can be resized as follows:
>[copy to XImage; create second, different-sized XImage; copy from the
>first to the second using a scaling algorithm; copy the result back into
>a new pixmap]

If you just want a different size pixmap, but do not want to scale its
existing contents to fit then I suggest you use the following:

	/*
	** On input: p1 = the pixmap to be "resized"
	*/
	p2 = XCreatePixmap(...)		/* of the required size */
	XFillRectangle(dpy, p2, ...);	/* fill with a colour to "clear" it */
	XCopyArea(dpy, p1, p2, ...);	/* copy from old pixmap to new */
	XFreePixmap(dpy, p1);		/* delete the old pixmap */
	p1 = p2;
	/*
	** On output: p1 has been "resized"
	*/

A potential problem is that this algorithm requires that there will be
two pixmaps in existance for a short amount of time. If they are both
large, or the server has a limitation on how much memory can be
allocated for pixmaps, then the server might not be able to allocate
the second pixmap.

The algorithm using XImages suggested by the previous poster (John B.
Melby) requires even more use of memory, but this memory is used in the
client rather than the X server. The client may well have more
available memory than the X server so this is not so much of a problem.
It does have the disadvantage of being slower since transmitting all
the data from the pixmap (in the X server) to the XImage (in the
client), and back again, will probably take a long time.


Ciaran.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.ms.programmer
From: jck@mercury.ncat.edu
Subject: window update schemes
Organization: North Carolina A&T State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:20:34 GMT


I'm developing an alternate architecture for high-performance displays
and need some information.  I think I know how the application
determines what to redraw.  I hope some of you have looked close enough
at that part of a windowed display application to be able to tell me
how it works.

I think there are basically two ways to do this (I'm sure there are
more, but I want to stimulate responses).  The image on the tube can
be formed by reading it directly from a memory-based image or by 
collecting parts/windows on-the-fly from non-continous memory-images.

If I change the image in the first version, I have to determine how
to "back-fill" those areas distrubed by that change.  I guess I do a
bounds check to find anything that has a bounding-box that touched the
changed area.

In the second case, I just need to collect the pieces from somewhere
else or change the piece.

Thanks, both for your patience and responses.

jck
jck@garfield.ncat.edu
919-334-7549
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: sbhatia@mary.fordham.edu (SABU)
Subject: number of cells vs. the depth
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:07:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Distribution: usa
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hi,

   if i get a value of 8 when i call XDefaultDepth()
 will i get a value of 256 when i call XDisplayCells()
in general will it always hold that the number of DisplayCells == 2 ** depth.

I am assuming that the visual type is PsuedoColor.


thanks,


regards,


sabu

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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:19490 comp.windows.x.motif:7652 comp.windows.open-look:4626
From: jsk@uniplex.co.uk (Jonathan King)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: X-Windows Survey
Keywords: X11, Motif, Openlook
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:45:29 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Uniplex Limited, Hemel Hempstead.

I am interested in finding out how many people use X windows. I know most
academic institutes use it the question is how many companies ?

Could you please send your replies to jsk@uniplex.co.uk (Email) 

The questions are :- 

1)  Do use use X-Windows ?
2)  Which window manager do you use ? ( Motif or Openlook or other )
3)  Do you develop code running under X Windows ?
4)  If you develop code,  which language ?
5)  Which hardware platform does  it run on ?


many thanks 

Jon King
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mppa3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Alan Richardson)
Subject: xvertext posted to alt.sources
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 12:43:58 GMT

      Posted to alt.sources : xvertext.
      ---------------------------------

      What does it do ? 
      -----------------
      Includes simple functions to facilitate the writing of vertical and
upside down text in an X window, which can be included in your program or
archived into a linking library. Also includes an example program.

      Why alt.sources ?
      -----------------
      My mail to comp.sources.x keeps bouncing. And nothing ever seems
to appear on that newsgroup. 'Tis a shame.

      But I can't get alt.sources !?!
      -------------------------------
      If you REALLY want a copy, drop me a line and I'll email you one.


  
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:19176 comp.windows.x.apps:1485
From: pnchu@Uz.nthu.EDU.tw
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Subscribe
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:17:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: nthu.92Nov18.131651cst.77429
Organization: The Internet

Hi, please subscribe me.
Thank you. my e-mail address is
  pnchu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Load pixmap into pixmap
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:30:57 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <890@metrix.UUCP>, ama@metrix.UUCP (Alan Amaral) writes:
> What you have suggested is NOT guaranteed to work, as the window may be
> unmapped, or partially or totally obscured, and backing store may not be
> available.  Thus the copy that you get (if you get anything) in the pixmap
> may not be what you expect.
> 
> Doing the XPutImage to the pixmap FIRST, and then copying from the pixmap to
> the window will work in any case...
> 
> So, the code would look more like this:
> 
>                    XPutImage(dpy,pixmap, gc,image,0,0,posX,
>                              posY,image->width, image->height);
> 
>                    XCopyArea(dpy, pixmap, win, gc,
>                              0, 0, image->width, image->height,
>                              PosX, PosY);

Indeed, you are correct, and it is the latter method we use where I work, I 
should have addressed this when I posted, but I was more concerned with
replacing the second PutImage with a CopyArea rather than ensuring the pixmap
was first.
> -- 
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From: rolf@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Rolf H. Buerk IVA3. Tel. 1341)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: xautlock wanted !
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:27:08 GMT
Reply-To: rolf@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de
Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany.


I'm trying to get xautolock for OpenWindows.
I use ftpmail since I don't have direct Internet access.
Does anybody know where I can get xautolock?
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
	Rolf

rolf@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: MSUORANTA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mika Suoranta Tkkk)
Subject: Windows finds no mice in com3/4??
Organization: Turku School of Economics, Finland
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:38:46 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

 
        MY WINDOWS DOES NOT FIND MY MOUSE!
                
        OK, I know running Windows software doesn't make much
        sense if one has 12KHz AT with 1meg of RAM... However,
        I do need to run some programs every now and then.
 
        I used to have my serial mouse in com-port 1, but it had
        to be moved to com-port 3 as I added some new devices
        which _need_ to be in ports 1 and 2 ( they don't "know"
        any other ). 
 
        Then I re-install Windows, both from the very beginning
        and with saved configuration - but no mice anywhere! Back
        to ms-dos, and the mouse is present and ready to go.
 
        My com-ports are:
 
        COM 1 address 3F8, irq 4   an extra printer, has to be in
                                   com 1 or 2
        COM 2         2F8  irq 3   modem, must be in com 1 or 2
        COM 3         3E8  irq 4   mouse
        COM 4         2E8  irq 3   ham radio packet modem
 
        Printer and modem are so oldfashioned they must be in ports
        1 and 2, but howcome Windows cannot find mice in 3 or 4?
 
        Any suggestions what to do to modify windows.ini and system.ini,
        or whatever is needed.
 
                thanks in advance, 
                                        Mika OH1NZQ



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