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Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 12:03:50 EST
From: Bill Laird <COP80196@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI is making me mad
 <LABACH.92Dec12220155@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>

In article <LABACH.92Dec12220155@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, labach@acs.ucalgary.ca
(Terence Michael Labach) says:

>And don't bother writing to ATI either.  At least not if you like
>companies you purchase goods from to reply to your concerns.  ATI has
>nice hardware, but seems content to treat their customers like shit.

That is unfortunate that they treat their customers so badly. In any event,
I think ATI's pathetic support for OS/2 2.0 and full blown support for
windoze M-T is really disgraceful. I don't see why they can't write drivers
for BOTH products. The two are very similar in design, and I'm sure what they
are learning from writing NT code can be applied to development of OS/2 drivers

It comes down to a simple matter of economics. ATI must ask themselves if there
is a market for OS/2 users, and if it will somehow be profitable to them to
write drivers. Clearly, they think this is not so. Unfortunately, this seems
to be a prevalent attitude among software developers. You would be surprised,
however, at the power of the pen. (or the electronic pen too! ;)) Until
recently, I had thought that it wouldn't be necessary to get involved in this
grass roots movement to show these manufacturers that YES there is a large
number of OS/2 users out there, and YES it will be profitable for you to
write software for OS/2! I know I shouldn't have to do this, but for whatever
reason, this appears the way that it is going to be.


Bill Laird                       -------------------------------------
University of Central Florida    |" 640 K is all the memory you will |
cop80196@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu       |  ever need"... Bill Gates         |
ci$ : 71753,130                  -------------------------------------
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: DMA on PC motherboards
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:33:05 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <24370@galaxy.ucr.edu> insom@galaxy.ucr.edu (Chris Ulrich) writes:
>
>  I have been using a 1542A at the 8mhz dma speed with no problems
>at all.  It has an eteq chip set, and is a 40mhz 386.
>  I get tired of these absurd jinggoistic accusations about cheap
>"imported" clones.  I have had more problems with propritary 
>modifications to a standard to get more "performance" out of a 
>system at the cost of making the bloody system impossible to fix 
>or upgrade.  Systems from the tiawaneese clone venders are as good 
>or bad as any other system you might buy.

Who said anything about "imported" clones?  A few years back one of
the motherboards known to have problems with bus-master cards was
made by a well-known American manufacturer.  (They've since cleared
up the problem, so I don't want to prejudice anybody by naming them.)

The issue here is between getting a product known to work, and one
which is cheaper but unknown.  If you can find an inexpensive MB
which is known to be reliable, by all means, get it.

>  My advice?  Take the card to the store you are going to buy from,
>and try using it.  If they dont let you, take your money elsewhere.

"Try before you buy" is generally sage advice.  But there is a catch:
people tend to build their systems piece-by-piece, and often wind up
adding cards to their system that didn't even exist when they bought
it (for example, the problems some folks are having with the Gravis
UltraSound and certain OPTI-chipset motherboards; the UltraSound
hasn't even been out two months).

In my case, I didn't have a bus-mastering disk controller or DMA-based
audio card before I bought my motherboard, although I planned to get
them.  So I bought a well-known, conservatively-designed MB to save
myself future grief.  And it happened to be from an American company.
Since then, I've added these devices (and a few other odd-ball cards)
and had zero trouble.  If I had already had these cards, it would have
made sense to get a cheaper MB with a money-back guarantee.  Instead, I
paid a bit more and got the use of the faster CPU while I saved for the
other components, (relatively) confident that they would work when I
finally added them.

Your situation may be different.  Or you might feel differently about
the risks involved.  I don't see anything to get quite so upset about,
however.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: chyang@grad.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: COMMENTS ON CORNELL COMPUTER SOLICITED
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:11:49 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@grad.engin.umich.edu


	
	Hi:

	I recently saw an ad on CORNELL COMPUTER.  They offer a 
486/DX266 system with 17" monitor for about  $3200-3500.  It seems
very attractive.  My question is does any one have experiences with 
CORNELL COMPUTER?  Please comment.

- Chung Yang
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:32883 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:15718 comp.periphs:1660
From: szhang@bcm.tmc.edu (Shide Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.periphs
Subject: Help! PC game port pin connections?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:58:44 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Keywords: 386SX, game port, female 15DB connector

Hi, netters

I got a joystick from a garage sale. Unfortunately, it's Apple brand (I
don't know if it's for Apple or for Mac) with a male 9 pin DB connector
and I have only a 386 compatable with a ***female 15DB game port***. 

I'm going to built an adaptor to connect the Apple joystick to my PC but I
don't know the pin connections of the game port on neither the connection
of the joystick. Can someone give me a help telling me the pin-connections
of the game port on PC clone? 

Please e-mail me if you can help

Thanx in advance

szhang@bcm.tmc.edu
From: tomw@orac.asd.sgi.com (Tom Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Bus def's ==> Re: EISA vs. ISA (& VESA, VL-bus, Local bus)
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:29:33
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.
	<1992Dec12.141205.302@global.hacktic.nl>
Reply-To: tomw@asd.sgi.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: orac.asd.sgi.com
In-reply-to: peter@global.hacktic.nl's message of 12 Dec 92 14:12:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.141205.302@global.hacktic.nl>, peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
> tomw@orac.asd.sgi.com (Tom Weinstein) writes:

>>This is right.  A lot of people run their ISA bus at 10 MHz.  Some even
>>run it as fast as 16.  There are some cards that don't work right for
>>anything faster than 8, though.  A transaction takes 4 cycles, which
>>means you get a maximum throughput of 4 MB/s (8Mhz * 2 bytes / 4).

> Hmmm, the VIDSPEED benchmark says that my video card does 6.4M/s. That is
> significantly more than 4... How come?

Actually, it turns out that the 4 cycles is abnormally long for good
hardware.  3 is more normal, and some card/motherboard combinations can
do it in 2 cycles.  This gives you 5.33 MB/s average, and 8 MB/s best
case.  You might also be running your bus faster than 8 MHz.

--
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warmth  -- Jackie Chan       |                  tomw@bears.ucsb.edu
From: y55j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Mike Duttweiler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: SpeedStar 24X and mouse in box
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:48:21 EST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Anyone having luck getting their mouse to work in a windowed DOS application
using the Diamond SpeedStar 24X in 800X600 mode?  If so, any suggestions why
I can't? (It worked fine with my Cardinal board.)  -- 
Mike Duttweiler
Internet: y55j@vax5.cornell.edu
...from far above Cayuga's waters.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: S_ESPENLAUB@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Klaus Espenlaub)
Subject: HELP!!!! my system has obviously a 2nd level cache problem
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:15:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi folks,

i've had some problems with my system since i've bought it:

- Norton SpeedDisk reports verify errors randomly during disk
  defragmentation
- Linux hangs randomly (or at least pseudo-randomly :-)
  in tetris, gcc,....

But these problems went away when i switched off my 2nd level cache.
I do not want to let it off (because the 256k will speed up the board
noticable).

I wonder if this problem is results of DMA. Each of the above mentioned
programs do DMA in probably cached regions of memory. I have the suspicion
that the DMA changes the RAM but doesn't mark the cache as dirty.

Any ideas????

My system consists of
- 486 50MHz (no DX-2)
- 16 MB RAM
- 256 k 2nd level cache
- OPTi chipset
- board manufacturer Shuttle
- board type HOT403H
- an IDE combi controller made by Timex

I've heard that this board isn't that exotical so i wonder if anybody has
the same problem.

Please HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks....

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: eckert@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: Re: 3-chip vs 9-chip SIMMs?
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:44:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.112737.2243@global.hacktic.nl>, peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
> 
> Not on all computers! The problem is that the 3 chip SIMMs have a refresh cycle
> that differs from the 9 chip SIMMs. Older motherboards can run into problems
> when they can't refresh the 3 chip SIMMs properly. Newer motherboards don't
> have this problem, as most of them support but the 9 chip and 3 chip versions.
Does this mean my 386sx with the "NEAT" chip set will or will not work with
3 chip simms?
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From: root@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro Build 51 drivers
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:59:22 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

> According to G2K Glenn on AOL, the Build 50 drivers didn't pass their
> (Gateway) testing and ATI is currently working on Build 51.

Probably...too bad. This means A LOT of Gateway customer aren't going to be
printing to their HP printers...

Mark

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:32921 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:15729 comp.sys.amiga.misc:18421
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:  Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:12:55 PST
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
 <ByDHt1.CLn@newcastle.ac.uk> <ByDwF9.HL6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> 
 <1992Dec2.104543@cs.utwente.nl> 
 <sheldon.723312917@pv1417.vincent.iastate.edu> <marc.00l2@aargh.adsp.sub.org><exuptr.324.723919845@exu.ericsson.se>
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <exuptr.324.723919845@exu.ericsson.se> by exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor):
> In article <marc.00l2@aargh.adsp.sub.org> marc@aargh.adsp.sub.org (Marc Heuler) writes:

> >b) The simple 4-channel 8-bit stereo sound of the Amiga is a STANDARD
> >feature of Amiga, NOT add-on.  Every program that wants to beep, play

    ...

> >On IBM many programs just beep and don't do anything else, because then,
> >and only then they can be sure the sound is playing on every IBM.

    ...

> Oops, wrong again, honey.  PC's can do sound through the built-in speaker.

    ...

> Anyway, if I want good sound, I'll buy multimedia.  Can't beat that, can you?

    I don't see why you said "wrong again". You are just backing up
    what he said with this last line of yours.

    And it can easily be beaten - every time some machine/machine
    thing comes up people make a fuss over whether it's a standard
    feature or not. And you don't need to buy an extra device to get
    good sound (for MODs or other personal entertainment purposes) on
    an Amiga.

>   - Patrick Taylor, Ericsson Network Systems
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: pim@cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen)
Subject: AT-sized motherboards ?
Organization: CTI Software BV, The Hague, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:45:33 GMT

I'd like to replace the motherboard of our AT&T 6386 WGS system,
mainly because it is limited to 8MB.

But all the motherboards I've seen now are baby-AT size.

Are AT-sized motherboards still being manufactured ?
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.dcom.modems
From: hope@huracan.cr (Theodore Hope)
Subject: Re: Source For Combo IDE + Serial Port (w/16550 UART)?
Organization: Proyecto Huracan - Fundacion Nahual / San Jose, Costa Rica
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:17:25 CAM


In <1f1bpiINNeah@smurf.sti.com> westes@smurf.sti.com (Will Estes) writes:

> I'm looking for an IDE controller that has parallel/serial ports
> on-board.  The catch is that I need the serial port to be a 16550 UART.
> Does such a combo card exist?   If not, can someone give me a good
> source for a 16550 UART card that also has a parallel port on it?

I've bought 16550-loaded cards from the following people, and I think they
also sell IDE cards with parallel & 16550-UART:

R&S DATA SYSTEMS, INC.
820 East Highway 434
Longwood, FL  32750
PHONE: (407) 331-1424
FAX: (407) 331-8606

A message from many months ago lists an "all-in-one" 16-bit WD Chipset
IDE-I/O Card with IDE, 2 serial (both 16550), and one parallel, for $58.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: wuf@unvax.union.edu (Felix Wu)
Subject: help with Maxtor SCSI drive settings (model LYT213S4)
Summary: jumper settings for Maxtor SCSI drive
Keywords: Maxtor
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:52:03 GMT

I've inherited a 200MB Maxtor drive (model LYT213S4) with no manual.
I'd like to install this in a driveless Gateway 2000 ESDI machine
and need to know the jumper settings to set it up as "single-ended
bootable (device 0) drive."

I'd appreciate any help, specific information, faxed spec sheets etc.
about this drive.

Thanks
Felix Wu
wuf@unvax.union.edu
fax: (518) 442-4936

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: ggawron@comm.mot.com (Glenn Gawron)
Subject: Which Monitor to Buy... HELP!!!
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:25:21 GMT

I have decided to purchase either a Sony 1304S Multiscan, a NEC 3FGx or a 
Viewsonic 6FS.  Since they are all about the same price and are similar in 
features, I'm looking for opinions.  I'll be buying on 12-15-92!!
Thanks,
Glenn
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Beef Sandwich - Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: world,public
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:43:41 GMT

In article <ByqLHC.3Ds@newcastle.ac.uk> D.J.Butcher@newcastle.ac.uk (Dave Butcher) writes:

>Every time I've ever used a PC its either locked up, fallen over, 
>or run out of memory.

Wow! What do you do with it? Hit it on the monitor with a baseball bat?




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jorgec@serss0 (Jorge Castellano)
Subject: Sharp JX-300 Driver
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:14:45 GMT


Does anybody know where I can find a driver for the sharp jx-300 scanner
using gpib ports on a pc-clone.

Thanks
-Jorge
email: jorgec@fiu.edu
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From: cbusch@ub.d.umn.edu (Chris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:41:41 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

A view observations:
    The mac mouse appears not to be accelerated.  The mouse pointer
didnt move as nicely as microsoft mice.  (Not to mention the mouse has
only one button.
    The mac appears to lack a built in help system.  I was using
mathematica and there wasnt any builtin help.
    If the mac is suppose to be truly a multitasking system, then why do
you have to load multifinder on top of the mac os?
    If macs are catching on so much then why has windows os sold more
copies than all the macs sold?
    Why is it, that macs are only compared to pc's that are base models,
despite the fact that very inexpensive add-ons exist for the pc.
    If the mac was so successful, then why was apple so eager to be
friends with ibm.
    Why hasnt motorola keep up to pace with intel with product design?
    If the mac was so successful, why are so many mac software companies
porting over their apps to windows?
    If macs are designed so well, why are they now using pc-like
keyboards?
    If macs are so easy to use, then why is it that in our computers
labs that macs are generally unused.  (This is very true.)
   

very confused about the big deal about macs,
-CB

Apparently, the only decent macs are big macs and whoppers are better
anywaz.    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Re: Please your opinions on these 15" monitors
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:26:42 GMT

reisert@mast.enet.dec.com (Alpha Personal Systems -- DTN 223-5747 -- MLO3-6/B8) writes:

>What are your opinions of the following monitors, preferably if you've used
>more than one?

>	Monitor			Price	Best price at:
>	-------			-----	--------------

>	TVM MediaScan 5A+	$459	Insight
>		liked by _PC World_

>	Mag MX15F		$559	TC (Treasurer Chest)
>		liked by _PC World_

>	Optiquest 2000D		$589	TC
>		liked by _Byte_

Very nice picture - best I found

>	NEC 3FGX		$600	S+W
>		liked by everyone

>	Viewsonic 6FS		$619	Essense

Poor (or totally lacking) quality control

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: ST225's overheating problems
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:53:00 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1gqf4fINNi2c@savoy.cc.williams.edu> 93gke@williams.edu (oldwanda) writes:
>My computer case forces me to stack my two ST225's on top of each
>other. Unfortunately, after a few hours, the one on the bottom
>overheats and starts giving me write faults. I need to let it cool
>before it becomes operational again. If anyone has had this problem,
>I would like to know how you went about fixing it.
>
>Also, is this kind of thing going to kill the drive soon? I know
>the ST225's are tanks and they should pretty much last forever...

There are two ways to kill an ST225 without really trying:

	-stack two on top of each other
	-run 'em upside down (PC board up)

To answer your question: find another mounting arrangement =PRONTO=



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From: psbayer@acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul S. Bayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Report on Speedstar 24x/fast bus clocks
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:26:14 GMT
Organization: UB


Does anyone out there know about the Diamond Speedstar LOCAL BUS????

I have a 486LB system, and a Trident 512K card (*not local bus*) I only
bought this card so I could have something whilest Diamond came out with a
LB VESA Non-interlaced VRAM True-Color baord.....


I NEED at least 32k colors (I'm starting to get graphically intensive on
this system.... and I would like to blow up pictures in Windows 3.1 so that
I can do some bit-map editing but whenever I blow things up now, I get all
these un-recognizable pix, because I only have 16 colors.

Any ideas, comments, suggestions?


- The New Computer Geek at UB        - "Just sing with us and you will see
v083kgy6@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu         - that inner joys are not forbidden
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542 Throughput
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:43:01 GMT

Martin Tichy (mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
: > How fast have you people out there been able to get TRUE transfer
: > rates on the Adaptec 1542 SCSI bus mastering controller?
: > 
: > I have mine hooked into a 16 bit slot to a Maxtor 7120S and I'm
: > getting transfer rates of slightly less than 800KB/sec.
: 
: What benchmark are you using?  Coretest 2.8 I think, gives me
: 2800KB/sec with my Quantum 240S. Maybe it was 1800, can't remember but
: it was over 1000 that's for sure.
: 
: 

The TRUE transfer rate is very dependent on the disk geometry. Don't get
fooled by marketing hype. I get a true rate of 1.3Mb/sec from a CDC Wren IV
307Mb disk drive. Calculating based on the number of sectors/track of the
drive, and the rotational speed, this is exactly what it should be.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rsutton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Roy A Sutton)
Subject: WANTED: Plans to a PD EPROM Programmer with Software
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:02:49 GMT

Please share with me your knowledge of a PD EPROM programmer,
hardware schmatic and software. If you have any information
at all it would be much appreciated.

What I would like most is a pointer to an ftp site...

Thank you,
Roy Sutton
From: sprague.wbst311@xerox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: noisy fan...
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:18:25 GMT
Followup-To: noisy fan...
Organization: Xerox
Originator: msprague@superior

I read in a magazine article where the author opened up his power
supply, unhooked the fan, then remounted it using some rubber or
nylon washers.  In his case, the fan was not balanced quite right
(thy often aren't), and the power supply case, which was attached
to the PC case was acting as a sounding board, and amplifying the
sounds his fan made.  After it was mounted differently, he said
all the noise went away.

I have never really had the urge to open the power supply in my PC
though.  :-)  Of course, it you decide to do somehting like this,
make _sure_ you unplug the PC.

			~ Mike (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware