From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: TANGENT (sort of): livin' Godly 'n' all that  (WAS Re: U2's denomination)
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:50:09 GMT

I had decided I wouldn't contribute to this thread anymore, on account it
wasn't going anywhere.  But PLEASE...!

>>    Perhaps this is the wrong newsgroup, but I can't let this one pass.
>>    The New Testament has clearly equally strong authority as the Old Testament
>>    - with new revelation.  The WORD of GOD was formed before the foundation
>>    of the world.  It has been unveiled in God's timetable, first the old
>>    covenant, then the new.  Paul said "...by revelation he made known unto
>>    me the mystery ... which in other ages WAS NOT [emphasis-mine] made
>>    known unto the sons of men, as it is NOW [emphasis-mine] revealed unto
>>    his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit." (Eph 3:3-5)
>>    There was NEW prophecy and revelation given at the time of Paul as
>>    there was in the Old Testament.  But it is all part of the WORD of GOD,
>>    established before the foundation of the world.  To attribute authority
>>    to the OT and not the NT is not correct.  Hopefully, this is not what you
>>    meant.
>
>No, it was not.  Someone had posted that s/he did not interpret the Bible
>because of a misunderstanding of 2 Peter 1:20,21 ("But know this first of all,
>that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no
>prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy
>Spirit spoke from God." [NASB]) and I explained it.

That was me who posted, and it wasn't a "misinterpretation."  More likely are
ALL the scriptures *you* posted...they don't have any relevance at all to
interpretation.  It merely says that the Spirit teaches you, etc.

>"The unfolding of Thy words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple."
>   -- Psalm 119:130

How do you translate "unfolding" <==> "interpret" ???  "Unfolding" works merely
if you read the Scripture, and you learn and discover more and more new things
as you read.

>"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will
>teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
>   -- John 14:25

This doesn't mean interpret either.  2 Corinthians 4 says that the "god of
this world has blinded the eyes of men" (referring to the devil).  Also, it
says elsewhere that folks read the Bible without faith, and it didn't do them
any good.  But Jesus is saying that the Holy Spirit will come down and *teach*
us.  WHERE do you see where it says the Holy Spirit will teach us how to
interpret??  I'll tell you what He'll do -- He'll teach us what the Scripture
*says*, and help us avoid *misinterpretations*.

>"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from
>God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we
>also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the
>Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words."
>   -- 1 Corinthians 2:12,13

Same thing as above, here.

Now if your definition of "interpretation" is different from mine, that's one
thing.  But otherwise, I suggest you read your quotes first before posting
them.
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