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From: gerace@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Jerry Gerace)
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Answers from Gravis
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:10:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.152858.20174@news.eng.convex.com> swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.163548.14486@news2.cis.umn.edu> aestens@epx.cis.umn.edu writes:
>>Question (4):   You can mix the songs, so yes you could theorectically
>>listen to both at the same time if mixed together on the master reel.
>>You can also play and record simultaneously.
>
>This is a non-answer.  He is talking about adding the digital values
>together (mixing) before playing.  This is not the same thing as
>playing two different tracks at the same time.  A single channel of
>any digital sound card can do the same thing.  Anyone can sum all of
>the waveforms in pre-processing and run the sum through a single channel.

You are correct sir, that's how MODs play on PCs...but ya know, that's 
software.  I would understand that the Gravis Ultrasound would perform
that in hardware, eliminating all that software goo.  And since MODs
need a fast PC to work good, an Ultrasound could play 32 channel MOD type files
on an XT...yow.

4 channel mods can bog down my 386-16...


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From: das@cci632.cci.com (David Stumme (co-op))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
Subject: FM.COM for ThunderBoard needed!
Summary: Anyone got it?
Keywords: Thunder Board Adlib driver
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:26:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cci632.1992Aug20.192638.19105
Organization: Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

Anyone have the FM.COM file from Media Vision's BBS?  I need it for a game
that requires Adlib's SOUND.COM to be run.   Please e-mail or post a uuencoded 
version, or directions to an FTP site that has it.  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: eric@geoblue.gcn.uoknor.edu (Eric Pyle)
Subject: Re: Gravis:  EA says September release...
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:36:33 GMT

In article <12AUG199218165886@misvax.mis.arizona.edu> tswanson@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES.) writes:
>
>
>BTW, I don't get any of the gaming magazines and am curious if Gravis has
>advertised the Ultrasound.  I never see a word about it in the general PC
>magazines.  Have their been any articles/(p)reviews on the board?
>
>Thanks,
>Ted.
>
	I have an Electronics-Boutique catalog that I get for
free and it has the UltraSound. The advertisement goes:

"Gravis
ULTRASOUND
Now add unheard of audi realism to your games and presentations.
Advanced 16 bit sound technology gives your IBM or compatible PC
crystal clear sound. 32 synthesized and digitized voices and
more.

IBM"

the price is $184.99 a bit steep, but so is everything in this
catalog! The Sound Blaster Pro Basic is the same price.

If you are wondering what the box looks like, it is half blue
and half white. The line dividing the two colors run diagonally
up from the lower left to the upper right corner. There is a
picture of a drawing of the card in the blue portion of the box.
It is drawn so that it looks like a spaceship traveling at high
speeds. In the white part there is a CD with a flag coming out
of it, (Flying saucer?)

	In the white part it describes the card:

	"PC Sound Board
	   The Ultimate Sound Solution
    16 bit, CD quality, 32 Voice Stereo Sound
	  For the IBM PC and Compatibles

			Compatible With:
		Adlib, Sound Blaster, Windows 3.1,
		and MPC Multimedia.


						Advanced
					    G R A V I S

					"

					eric

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From: wity@iastate.edu (Wity Ganda)
Subject: Re: Need Disney Sound Box Windows 3.1 Driver
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:40:27 GMT


Disney Sound Source driver for Windows 3.1 can be found at:

ftp address: ftp.cica.indiana.edu
directory  : /pub/pc/win3/sounds
filename   : sndsrc.zip

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Some update info on the MediaVision 16 Multimedia Upgrade (PAS-16)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 01:38:46 GMT

Just got the MediaVision multimedia upgrade kit 16 (contains PAS-16, NEC
internal CD-ROM player, and loads of software) last week from PC Connection
-- these apparently arrived new from MediaVision and were shipped straight
out to us back-ordered customers.  Thanks to Charles Thompson's most
excellent PAS-16 FAQ article, I was able to get things up and going with
next to no problem at all.  *Major* thanks, Charles.

Anyway, there were a few things in the MultiMedia package that I though
folks might like to know about, particularly changes to the MediaVision
hardware/software setup:

 *  The major change is that they're shipping NEC 84J CDR drives instead of
    83Js.  Not a big surprise, as NEC's been switching to the X4 CDR line
    all over the place.  Also not much of a real change; I asked around
    before buying the MultiMedia kit, and the difference between the X3 and
    X4 lines is pretty miminal, from what I've understood.  The specs are
    just about the same.

    PS  It is a bitch to get a NEC 84J into a Gateway Tower case.  Never again.

 *  Strangely enough, after getting everything up and working, I happened to
    reboot my Gateway 2000 without the MVSOUND.SYS file, and Windows *still*
    came up with its Windows Startup sound through the speakers connected to
    my PAS-16.  I thought it needed MVSOUND.SYS to work -- but I'm not sure.
    I may experiment with this more, later.  (MVSOUND.SYS is a pretty small
    driver, and I don't grudge it it's high memory space.)

 *  The Gateway has a ATI Graphics Ultra card; the TSLCDR.SYS driver I have
    still detects two SCSI addresses, and not one; but so far, I haven't had
    any problems wiht digital audio, and no instances of the "red screen"
    problem on Win 3.1.  I'll check to see that it's later than 1.46B.

Again, that PAS-16 FAQ list gave me a lot of piece-O'-mind -- thanks to all
who contributed, and Charles for organizing.

                           "Most divorces are just a four-year-long date with
                            a little bookkeeping."
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From: ptran@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: FM in hardware for the Ultrasound?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:24:23 GMT

Is it true that Gravis plans a daughtercard that will provide hardware
support for FM synthesis and the SB DAC, obviating the need for the
TSR?

Also, someone posed an interesting question a while back about the actual
number of DACs on the Ultrasound.  He believes that it has two DACs 
into which all 32 voices are mixed by hardware.  However, the specs say
that the Ultrasound has 4 stereo channels than can be panned independently.
So, it seems more like that the GUS has at least four DACs, doesn't it?
If anyone knows anything more about this subject, please jump in!

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: pja@vipunen.hut.fi (Petri Juhani Jarre)
Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound WaveTable Synthesis
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:31:45

In article <1992Aug17.220854.10750@bnr.ca> timchan@bnr.ca (Timmy Chan) writes:
   Roland's S-series stuff) which costs THOUSANDS!  Can it be that
   a $250 card ($150 for the Ultrasound, $100 for the 16-bit
   daughter board) can do what a $3000+ 16-bit sampler can do???

Not really. _According to what has been posted here_, Gravis
"Wavetable synthesis" seems to be what is called sample playback in
synthesizers. And the Gravis version is very limited in terms of
modulation and sound shaping capabilities. Basically, a $3000 sampler
starts where Gravis ends.

Gravis may be a great game/multimedia card, but it is no substitute
for a synth - except when all you want is sample playback. On the
other hand, a $3000 sampler is no substitute for Ultrasound, either.

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From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: 4 layer board?
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:07:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <BtBp6v.AJE@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:

>What exactly is meant by a "4 layer board"?  

It describes the makeup of the printed circuit board.  Simple PCB's are
only one layer - they have tracks etched on only one side of the board. 
Double layer boards have tracks etched on both side of the boards and
hence more tracks can be layed or one side can be used as a ground plane
to reduce noise.  4 layer boards are effectively two double layers
bonded together ie they have two layers of etched tracks inside the
fiberglass.  The more layers you use then then the more tracks you can
lay, or you can lay the same number of tracks but further apart.  It
also permits you to have more ground planes if your circuit requires
then. 

Davei
From: aestens@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Further Ultrasound Info
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:30:52 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

Yet more information from Gravis about the Ultrasound.
(taken verbatim from America Online)

*****
Subj:  UltraSound Toolkits
Date:  92-08-15 13:39:44 EDT
From: DracBaby
To:     Mycroft

Hi, There are over 400 toolkits in the hands of almost every known
producer of software I could think of. Plus our chip set is now up for
sale. Even Microsoft themselves like our sound board.
(I not sure how well do in market place together against FOGHORN, but
I think we have a good solution. 
[some material deleted]

We do not plan to make the card PAS compatible. Gravis, and the other
wave form board makers want the world of software to reach the next
level of sight and sound.

Adv Gravis
*****
Subj:  Shipping??
Date:  92-08-15 14:11:47 EDT
From:  Adv Gravis

Thanks for kind words. Like Mike said, even I do not have access to
the final software until Tuesday, as the engineers are putting the
final touches on it.

The good news is the boards are sitting in my warehouse, the manuals
and software should be completed by Tuesday. So it looks like will be
shipping Thursday-Friday. (It's about time too!) It's been to damm long
for me at least. :-) big Grin!

I'd like to thank everyone that has order one. I think that you'll see
some awesome software come out this year and support it.

Chuck Yeager the UltraSound version, will be completed in Sept.
It will be sold separatly through Gravis.

Coming soon from Accolade STAR CONTROL II, to take advantage of the
boards special features. 

Regards
BC
*****
Subj:  Emulation driver size
Date:  92-08-15 16:34:00 EDT
From:  PCA SBMike

The 'Blaster/AdLib emulation driver takes up about 16k, and,
according to docs (I haven't tried it myself) can be loaded high
and retain full functionality. In fact, they recommend loading high
under DOS 5 to preserve base RAM.
*****

That's all for now..more as I receive it.

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From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Creative Labs #
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:16:24 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

Can anyone give me the address and telephone number for Creative Labs?

Thanx.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: cwhui@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Chen W. Hui)
Subject: Re: SB Pro Questions: Interrupts, versions
Summary: Difference between SBPro 1 and 2 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.102854.27007@inmos.co.uk> hillm@inmos.co.uk (Mark Hill) writes:
>This is a question about the SoundBlaster Pro. Are there two versions, and
>if so, what is the difference and how do you tell the difference (via
>software, looking at the board, looking at the packaging etc.)?
>
>Mark

Yes, there are two versions.  The first SBPro came with twin FM chips for
its stereo sound.  The second SBPro comes with the new Yamaha OPL chip for true
stereo sound.

How do you tell the difference?  Well, the first SBPro only comes one way:
it includes the card, software and the MIDI connector cable.  Also, you'll
see the words "Twin FM chips providing 22 voices" on the side of the box where
it lists the SB Pro features. 

The newer SB Pro is sold in two formats 1) the "Basic" package which is the
card and software   2) the "Full" package which includes the MIDI stuff as well.

Make sure the box says "Yamaha OPL chip" so that you get the newer SB Pro.

I know that one of the local stores here have both kinds so it's really 
confusing to those who aren't aware of the differences.

From what I could see, the price didn't change at all.

Hope this helps,
Chen

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: pdanset@hardy.u.washington.edu (Paul Danset)
Subject: UNIX drivers for PAS-16?
Keywords: PAS-16, BSD, drivers
Reply-To: pdanset@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:19:56 GMT


Dear netters,

Is anyone out there currently writing a 386BSD or BSD/386 driver for
the PAS-16?  If not, how difficult would it be to write one based
on the existing drivers for SB and SB Pro?  For the moment, I do not
need support for the PAS-16 SCSI port; I just want to have solid 16-bit
audio I/O (i.e. no pauses, no clicking, etc.) within a UNIX framework.

Any pointers would be appreciated.  Thanks very much in advance.

-- Paul Danset      pdanset@u.washington.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: unicorn@phoenix.oulu.fi (Mika Saari)
Subject: Prices of Gravis daughter cards
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 11:33:38 GMT

Does anybody know any prices for Gravis Ultrasound Daughter Cards ?
For example how much would                 cost.
                           /\/\/\/\/\/\/\
                           Mt-32 emulation 
                           Memory expansion  
                           16 bit ADC

Please if you know those prices answer to 
INTERNET:
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From: fineman@markov.arc.nasa.gov (Charles Fineman)
Subject: Re: FM in hardware for the Ultrasound?
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:36:10 GMT

On 22 Aug 92 03:24:23 GMT, ptran@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) said:

Phat>Also, someone posed an interesting question a while back about
Phat>the actual number of DACs on the Ultrasound.  He believes that it
Phat>has two DACs into which all 32 voices are mixed by hardware.
Phat>However, the specs say that the Ultrasound has 4 stereo channels
Phat>than can be panned independently.

How many outputs does it have? If you can get all those channels
independantly, you could do 3-d sound imaging! (though I think you
need six to do a really good job.) Could you imagine something like
Ultima Underworld with that? I'd jump out of my friggin chair if I
heard some headless come walking up behind me!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee)
Subject: Gravis:EA deal!!!!
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:56:26 GMT

Can someone tell us ( the guys in Australia) what games and their prices
we printed on the flier that was posted out recently from EA?  I think
we would much appreciate it if someone could help keep us up to date
with all the deals as everyone else.  Thanks.....


rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au


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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: question re:32-voice wavetable synthesis
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:19:57 GMT

Am I correct in thinking the following?:   The 32 voices are just 32 memory
buffers in hardware where the waveforms are stored. The entire board has only
two digital channels, through which the required voices are mixed by hardware.


For a while it seemed to me that Gravis was saying they had 32 DACs. That would
be crazy!


Also, if the Gravis is truly SB/AdLib comaptible, it has to handle FM synthesis.
Does it do this with FM chips or does it do it by tinkering with the 32 digital
voices? Or some other way?
-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound WaveTable Synthesis
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:27:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1992Aug19.165423.16757@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> woan@cactus.org writes:
>According to someone on Prodigy, Gravis has a relatively firm date of
>beginning to ship this Friday with Electronic Arts being among the
>first to get it.

Can anyone give me an address / telephone no of where I can order one from when
they are finally shipped ?

Davei (davei@lancaster.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gerace@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Jerry Gerace)
Subject: Re: ProMod
Keywords: BBS FTP
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 01:46:01 GMT

In article <86679@netnews.upenn.edu> fuma@central.cis.upenn.edu (Filip Fuma) writes:
>I saw on this group a mention of a mod player called 'ProMod'.
>Anyone know where I can find it?
>

Well, I can't be certain, but I think I got the latest version (1.1) off of
wuarchive.wustl.edu in either the pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS or the mirrors/msdos
somewhere (sounds/ or music/ ??)...look for it...if not, perhaps I can find
out where I REALLY got it from...

Mad Poo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: d89-jli@dront.nada.kth.se (Janne Lindblad)
Subject: Re: MCA soundcard options ?
Keywords: ACPA IBM OS/2 QUALITY
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:45:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.180901.19328@sarah.albany.edu> rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu (Robert D. Seals) writes:
>In article <> gregh@alw.nih.gov (Gregory Humphreys) writes:
>>In article <>, IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (robert eric beckwith) writes:
>>|> What is available for Soundcards for Micro Channel Systems?
>>
>>The only one I know of is the SoundBlaster Microchannel.
>
>There is also the IBM M/Audio board which is very nice, apparently,
>but is sample-only, i.e., no crappy FM synth...and it has a driver for
>windows 3.1, direct from the rich guys in Washington state.
>
>rob
>-- 
>------
>Who does?
>rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu

I actually have the board (IBM ACPA=Audio Capture and Playback Adapter)
installed on my MCA machine running OS/2 2.0, and it runs very fine, even
in the background. It takes about 5% cpu time when recording or playing a
highly compressed 44.1kHz stereo sample, 16 bits (="near CD quality"). 

This is possible because the neat on-board programmable DSP (TMS320C25). 
The usual compression takes the 44.1kHz 16 bit data rate from 10.6MB/min
down to an incredible 1MB/min average with no loss of quality. If you want,
you can have the DSP do other things, like real time FFTs (filters, 
transposes, etc). All you have to do is to type 'dspload <file>.dsp'.

Also, there is a device driver package under development (but _very_ usable
today) that abstracts the card to  f = fopen("AUDIO1$", "rw");  The device
driver handles both ACPA and SB (!) as it stands today, and several other
cards are planned, it seems.
The device driver is available in DOS, Win**s and OS/2 2.0

The ACPA card is also available in ISA (AT-bus) version.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: epperson@adobe.com (Mark Epperson)
Subject: Re: SB Pro Questions: Interrupts, versions
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:50:07 GMT

In article <Bt9KtD.D0H@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu% cwhui@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Chen W. Hui) writes:
%In article <1992Aug18.102854.27007@inmos.co.uk% hillm@inmos.co.uk (Mark Hill) writes:
%%This is a question about the SoundBlaster Pro. Are there two versions, and
%%if so, what is the difference and how do you tell the difference (via
%%software, looking at the board, looking at the packaging etc.)?
%%
%%Mark
%
%Yes, there are two versions.  The first SBPro came with twin FM chips for
%its stereo sound.  The second SBPro comes with the new Yamaha OPL chip for true
%stereo sound.
%
%How do you tell the difference?  Well, the first SBPro only comes one way:
%it includes the card, software and the MIDI connector cable.  Also, you'll
%see the words "Twin FM chips providing 22 voices" on the side of the box where
%it lists the SB Pro features. 
%
%The newer SB Pro is sold in two formats 1) the "Basic" package which is the
%card and software   2) the "Full" package which includes the MIDI stuff as well.
%
%Make sure the box says "Yamaha OPL chip" so that you get the newer SB Pro.
%
%I know that one of the local stores here have both kinds so it's really 
%confusing to those who aren't aware of the differences.
%

1) Is there a way to upgrade? exchange?
2) Does this help the "noise" problem?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Mark Epperson
From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: FM Synth - SB Pro Vs. PAS16
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:13:21 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

Can anyone tell me if the FM synthesizer on the PAS16 is any better than 
the one on the SB Pro?

Thanx.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: sb pro, noise	
Originator: smintz@alamo
Keywords: noise, sound cards
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:17:26 GMT


If you are getting ALOT of power supply noise out of your speakers, a great way
to solve it is a silencer power supply from pc-power and cooling, it is 80%
electrically, and accusticly quiet, is also have a themo cool fan (it speeds up
if the computer temp rises)...great p/s!!


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