HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,sci.med,misc.consumers,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Business cards
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:18:36 GMT
Organization: Summit NJ

Dave Lyons writes:
>CatWoman wrote:
>> 
>> Also, folks - if you see ANYTHING that seems like this,
>> check the FAQ for alt.folklore.urban first!!  Because this
>> Shergold story WILL NOT DIE, it is one of the first items in the
>> FAQ.  (similar stories - collecting pull-top rings to pay for
>> various medical treatments, and the like, are also debunked
>> thoroughly...)
>
>WRONG-O-MUNDO PEASANT BREATH!!!     (I always wanted to say that)
>Not all similar stories are debunkable myths.  For example, a local company
                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>(don't know the name offhand) will pay for 1 minute of dialysis for children
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in need for every 100 soda can tops collected and turned.  This is not a myth,
>as I have given several thousand of these tops to the program and they were
>gratefully accepted.  Certainly some of these stories are untrue but to label
>them ALL as phony is wrong and may prevent some good being done.  A better way
>to put this would be:  If you hear/read of such a story and feel the urge to do
>some good, do yourself a favor and INVESTIGATE!  It MAY be a fake/myth/scam/etc
>designed to waste your time.

Your posting confirms that stuff like this is a myth.  What is the
company?  In breath you say that you gave, and in another you say you
don't know to whom?

Sure "somebody" was collecting soda can tabs because he or she "heard"
that some unnamed company was giving dialysis, etc.

Until you provide a name and contact info, what you said proves it's
a myth.
-- 
Stan Krieger                     All opinions, advice, or suggestions, even
AT&T UNIX System Laboratories    if related to my employment, are my own.
Summit, NJ
smk@usl.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 19:14:49 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <dzpjfsh@lynx.unm.edu>  blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>
> Yes, but a monogamous relationship >is< trusting the other person to
> not sleep with anybody else.

Right.

> Calling it 'open' doesn't add one iota of trust that shouldn't have already
> been there in the first place.

Calling it open means it's not monogamous.

> I guess it means I consider my SO sleeping
> with somebody else to be a 'bad' thing.

So an open relationship is not the thing for you.  Other people feel
differently, so an open relationship might be OK for them.  I'm not
saying either one is *better*.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper personals phenomena
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:58:23 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: soc
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

}My mind produced the image of myself on horseback
} wearing a highwayman's cape, spurs, and a bikini, carrying a lasso, riding 
}him down on the open range.... 

Gads, that's quite an image.  Feel free to so pursue me anytime.  I think
I can guarantee that you'll catch me...

--James Preston

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: deannab@hpmwtd.HP.COM (Deanna Bergstrom)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:27:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpmwga.32610010
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD). - Santa Rosa, Ca.

>		Tammy,		 Debbie Reynolds
----------

Ah yes, "Tammy"....my favorite song when I was about 5 years old.  I got
my first record player then ("hi-fi", even, a lot for a 5 year old...but
I guess that's dating myself :-))...I must have driven my family nuts,
playing Tammy over and over and over and over.  It's the first thing I
taught myself to play on the piano at about age 8, too.

It was my first favorite love song...


--deanna
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From: larry@elvis.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Larry Pollack)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,sci.med,misc.consumers,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Business cards
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:52:57 GMT
Reply-To: larry@xlnt.com
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc.

In article <1544@necis.UUCP>, dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr5.145129.2889@wetware.com>, diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) wrote:
|> > 
|> > Also, folks - if you see ANYTHING that seems like this,
|> > check the FAQ for alt.folklore.urban first!!  Because this
|> > Shergold story WILL NOT DIE, it is one of the first items in the
|> > FAQ.  (similar stories - collecting pull-top rings to pay for
|> > various medical treatments, and the like, are also debunked
|> > thoroughly...)
|> > 
|> > Diana
|> 
|> WRONG-O-MUNDO PEASANT BREATH!!!     (I always wanted to say that)
|> Not all similar stories are debunkable myths.  For example, a local company
|> (don't know the name offhand) will pay for 1 minute of dialysis for children
|> in need for every 100 soda can tops collected and turned.  This is not a myth,
|> as I have given several thousand of these tops to the program and they were
|> gratefully accepted.  Certainly some of these stories are untrue but to label
|> them ALL as phony is wrong and may prevent some good being done.  A better way
|> to put this would be:  If you hear/read of such a story and feel the urge to do
|> some good, do yourself a favor and INVESTIGATE!  It MAY be a fake/myth/scam/etc
|> designed to waste your time.

Recently, the soda can top story circulated around our office. I couldn't (and
still can't) see how soda can tops can be traded for such an expensive
treatment. It seems to me that the only worth is the aluminum itself and if
that's what they want, why not take the whole can? After much ridicule, the
perpetrator of the office story checked it out with a relative who works at a
hospital. The response was, general, "We get thousands of theses things and
don't know what to do with them. Please don't bring them here."

If there truly is a company doing this, I would be very interested in knowing
who they are and how this plan works. I find it rather odd that you, Dave, have
turned in "several thousand of these tops" and don't know the name of the
company.

-Larry.

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper personals phenomena
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:49:00 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr16.191119.27712@spool.cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>
>You mean that I just need to put food out on my doorstep and wait a while?
>

Or at least something that women like to eat...
-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
+=============================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Another gem!  (on changing and being authentic)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:29:32 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Apr14.193658.10041@gvl.unisys.com>  liz@gvlf9-j.gvl.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious [Bradley]) writes:
>
> That just means that you and Referee Joe haven't had first hand
> experience that's all!

I've had first-hand experience; both left and right...

> You'd twist anything around to get something perverted out of it!

How well you know me and my warped ways...

> Now if I hadn't called off the challenge I might have had some
> good material but alas.....you were a nice guy!  (Is that the
> kiss of death or what!)

No, if you called me a Nice Guy (tm), *that* would be the kiss of death,
but there's nothing wrong with being a nice guy (lower case).  If you're
unhappy about that, you're welcome to return and invite me to *not* be a
nice guy... <evil grin>

Are you really complaining because I showed restraint?  (I *did* show you
the restraints, didn't I?)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Scott Hibbetts <scotth@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Avoiding dating married people 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:16:04 -0500

In article <1992Apr9.152507.5084@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>That's one thing I insist to have with the men I date, their home numbers
>and I make sure to tell them that I will call and I do call without
>giving a specific time.
>
>That's a relatively easy way to find out if someone is involved
>in a live-in relationship or is married. 
>
>Michele Guillet 			The Communications Research Centre 

So, if you call, and a woman answers the phone, what does that tell 
you? Even if a child answers, I don't think it tells you anything.

He may share a large apartment or house with several people of both
genders, some of whom may have nieces and nephews over to visit.

Scott Hibbetts
Bloomington, IN
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:30:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr9.153055.28148
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr8.222755.21043@spool.cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1992Apr8.025018.4511@midway.uchicago.edu> pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
>>I nominate Angelwing for the Soc.Singles.Fantasy.Goddess for
>>the male contingent.
>
>You can't; she ain't single.  She just said so herself in a recent post.
>
Oh *reeally*, Michael.  Well I'm not married, so I must be single.  Nyah! 

Angelwing - Do you see a ring on this finger?  *I* don't see a ring on
this finger.

*------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Angelwing       |"Two things are wanted by a true man, danger and*
* U. of Washington| play - therefore, he seeks woman as the most   *
*                 | dangerous toy."       Friedrich Nietzsche      *
*------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:31:28 GMT
Distribution: soc
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Apr15.141901.11741@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>  swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>
> Er, sorry?  I'm having trouble seeing you through this forest of broadswords,
> cloaks, plumed hats, stuffed fire lizards and wizard's staffs.

Up here, on the stilts!

> Pity.

Never mind - I'm not looking for a pity boink.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper personals phenomena
Date: 17 Apr 92 10:33:38 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <00JS02SPcfro00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>,
jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes: 
> swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> 
> }In article <8czk02elc91300@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>,
> }jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes: 
> }> swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> }> 
> }> }My mind produced the image of myself on horseback
> }> } wearing a highwayman's cape, spurs, and a bikini, carrying a lasso, riding 
> }> }him down on the open range.... 
> }> 
> }> Gads, that's quite an image.  Feel free to so pursue me anytime.  I think
> }> I can guarantee that you'll catch me...
> }> 
> }Damn straight I'd catch you; I mean, what do you think the horse is
> }*for*?  (I believe in cutting through all this 'who's going to make the
> }first move' nonsense; I leave nothing to chance.)   :-)
> 
> Great.  Now where did you say this open range is?  Beth?  Hello?
> 
> --James Preston
> 

Boy, now I even have to give you *directions* to the prarie?  I mean,
making the first move is one thing but this is ridiculous.

			--Beth 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:50:46 GMT

stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

>Kiran Wagle writes:
>[discussion of Warren Farrell]
>>He suggests that men initiate most of the time, and are 
>>responsible for the 150 steps because of this. Also, the (claimed by
>>me) fact that men are quite unlikely to to turn down an offer of sex
>>means that an initiating woman does not have to worry about these steps. 

>Oh, are we only talking about encounters whose ultimate goal is sex?
I think in the case where someone makes a "move", in other words
asking someone out with romantic interest, the ultimate goal is a
relationship that includes sex (if you are male. As we all know from
Ann Landers' notorious survey and Dan Mocsny's definitions, women
would be perfectly happy without sex.)

>If so I would tend to agree ... although I know lots of men who turn
>down offers of sex. 
Do they turn down offers from people they have been dating? or just
from friends?

>But what if the goal is something less specific, such as friendship
>or romance or getting to know someone better to see which?
If sex is going to happen, at some point someone has to initiate it.
Is this more likely to be the man or the woman?

>I would be nervous asking someone out if I wanted nothing but sex,
>and I thought there was a likelihood that they didn't want sex. 
What if you wanted a relationship that includes, but is not limited
to, sex?

>Maybe it is because I don't have narrow expectations that I am not
>particularly nervous about asking people out.

If you have no expectations (or more precisely, desires) at the time
of asking, then this might make you less nervous about asking people
out.

>>>If there are 150 initiatives
>>>between eye contact and sexual contact, imagine how many there are between
>>>sexual contact and deciding that you want to be with this person forever.
[...]
>>there are no 'initiatives' in the sense that the decision you have
>>described is yours alone.
>"Yours alone"? The only kind of 'asking out' that could possibly be

There are no initiatives because the decision you have described is
not asking out, but rather, assessing the other's suitability as a
long-term partner. Only you can decide if they are the right person
for you. 

>So we have different perspectives on what's scary about getting close to
>someone. How about this: I'll ask you out and initiate sex, and you 
>promise not to reject me if I express dissatisfaction after that. :-)

Sounds good to me. :-)

-- 
"The truffle is not an outright aphrodisiac, but it may in certain
 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin
From: eleanor@ait.com (Eleanor Evans)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A R C
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:49:38 GMT
Organization: Artificial Intelligence Technologies, Inc.

Doug Rudoff says to Teri Miller....
>Teri, it's a great thing you're so willing to make the first move. But
>I think you're an exception. If I always let women make the first
>move, I would never have had a date in my life. The vast majority of
>women who have expressed intrest in me expected me to do asking. Maybe
>it has something to do with the type of woman who is attracted to me.

Apropos of which, get those votes in!  The poll is still continuing.
In case you've forgotten the question:  Women, please e-mail me whether 
you are or are not aggressive in initiating relationships, and whether 
you wish you were or not.  

We need those results!!!!!  So far, the tally is 6 aggressives, 1 not,
1 man who wrote in to say that all the women he knows aren't.  I'll 
published detailed responses--there are some pretty interesting comments
in there--with attributions removed after I get more input.  I'd like
to be fair to the non-aggressives, and give them a little more time to
get their votes in.....

So, come on, women--I won't say who you are, just get your votes in, ok?

Piglet
From: jandrews@public.BTR.COM (Jerry Andrews  jandrews@btr.com)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:49:37 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

Regarding the whole discussion of single people who're sexually involved 
with a married person ---

For about 10 minutes, I (a goy) was married to a jewess.  Before she met
me, she was dating a very nice Jewish boy.  When Amy started dating me,
her grandmother counselled her in all seriousness:  "Marry the Jew; have
affairs".

We both thought that was pretty funny.  Her grandmother is a lovely woman; 
she and I got along very well after we met.  She never recinded her advice,
but she didn't repeat it after we met, either.  <grin>

I don't really have any point to make.  I just thought you'd like to hear
the story...
 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: THE ELEMENTS OF SEDUCTION was (Re: Request : Dating advice from women)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:57:04 GMT

In article <11279@borg.cs.unc.edu> state@sargent.cs.unc.edu (Andrei State) writes:
>Marianna Max writes:
>> [...] richh@tigger.jvnc.net (RICHH) writes:
>
>[Richard III synopsis omitted]
>
>> >If you can't see the sport in this, you will never understand men.
>>
>> Is anyone maybe getting an idea of why many women feel the need to protect
>> themselves from men, not just the rapist, but the guy next door that seems
>> oh so charming? 
>
>No, but I'm getting yet another hint that as Dan keeps
>repeating, women want sex less than men on the average.

You know, since every message you've posted lately seems to consist of 
the above statement phrased one way or another, I'm getting the impression
that you find women's sexual desire to be very threatening.  

>Andrei

I absolutely don't want to resurrect the "men want it more" argument, but
I'm still puzzled by just how emotionally important "men wanting it more"
seems to be to a lot of men.  The only even plausible reason I can think
of for this would be a very deep, ego-threatening fear of not being able
to satisfy women sexually if they really have the high sexual appetites
that they certainly seem to.  Though, I suppose it could be that "men just
want to argue about it more."

Trygve   (Personally, I rather like living on a planet full of lusty
          women.)
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs list
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:04:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.155010.836@beaver.cs.washington.edu> dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.091948.6436@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>>
>>	Of course, certain songs by Rod Stewart come to mind:
>
>	Mandolin Wind (one of my all-time favorites)
>
>	Stay With Me  (see, I just can't do that romantic stuff)
>-- 
>  Dave Johnson
>
>"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
>    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat 
 
You know this romantic song thread gives me a romantic urge, that perpetuates
a cramp in my large intestins.
 


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Sleeping Around While Dating (was Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:35:47 GMT

>grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:
>>I'd have a hard time maintaining a romantic relationship (physical or
>>otherwise) with a women who I knew was activity bonking some other man
>                                                 ^^^^^^^

intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>The term you are looking for is *boinking*, Vic.  BOINKING!  Bonking is
>being hit over the head .....and I really can't see what the hang up would
>be if your object of affection was hitting some other guy other the head.

Would you stay involved with someone if you found that he was striking
people about the head and shoulders? I wouldn't, I would be worried
thet i would be next.
-- 
"The truffle is not an outright aphrodisiac, but it may in certain
 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Love: Is it a power thing?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:21:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.050246.13585@news.Hawaii.Edu> venki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (N. Venkateswaran) writes:
>
>	I solicit your opinion on:
>
>
>	"In love, the one who loves less is the winner."
>
>
>	I believe that Love is a power play between 2 (or more?) individuals.
>	Love is used to control and mould a person to suit someone else's
>	perception.
>
 
This is so cynical.
I really like it.


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From: rcf@pnet01.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,sci.med,misc.consumers,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Business cards
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:16:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr14.131654.6195
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

ansok@stsci.edu (Gary Ansok) writes:
>For aluminum can pull-tabs, though, none of these seem to apply.  The
>only company that I can see that would want to increase can usage is
>Alcoa or some other can manufacturer; it wouldn't be a particular
>soft drink manufacturer (e.g., Coca-Cola), since you can't tell whether
>a pull tab came from a Coke can, a Pepsi can, or a beer can (in general).
>
>Also, if a company was collecting tabs for charity, why would they be 
>keeping it a secret?  I would think they'd be running ads to let you 
>know that Company X is doing this good deed.
>
>I think this is just a rumor -- but if anyone knows what company or
>organization is behind this, _and_ you have checked with that organization,
>please tell us so we can settle this!  (Don't just post to say "I heard
>it was so-and-so.")  Who, if anyone, is writing the checks?
>


     Well, I don't think it's a rumor; I just think it hasn't happened in
about the last 15 years, since, as someone pointed out, it's been a long time
since coke cans had removable tabs.  Sorta like the business cards; it
occurred once upon a time, but has taken on a life of its own since then.

Bob c/o The OTH Gang
rcf@pnet01.cts.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles