HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven)
Subject: Re: IFF8 & IFF miscellaneous questions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
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Date: 16 Nov 92 18:49:25 WST
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Val Kartchner (val@news.ccutah.edu) wrote:
> What are the current IFF forms with brief descriptions?  (Is there an FTP
> site available for this?  Commodore should really place their PD source
> code and software on commodore.com and allow anonymous FTP.)  Let me start:

Check out the new RKM Devices manual Appendix A for a listing &
explanation of all the public IFF chunks.  They have released IFF source
code & examples to the Fish disks (including 2 or 3 whole disks) along
with numerous other examples.

> 	Graphics   ILBM  InterLeaved BitMap  (Various hunks for graphics modes)
> 	Music      SMUS  Standard MUSic  (no one uses)
> 	Text       FTXT  Formatted TeXT  (no one uses)
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is not true.  SMUS is used by AmigaVision & Sonix, FTXT is used by
anything that writes to the clipboard.

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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: 24 bit image available
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:23:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.144809.10770@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>In my quest for a high quality 24 bit image to test my printer,
>I managed to find one. It is one of the Kodak demo pictures I
>think (it says Kodak in one corner) - a girl's face with a red
>hat. If there is interest I could post it. Options are:
>FORMAT		FILE SIZE
>face.ppm	1133304
>face99.jpg	284179
>face95.jpg	142530
>face75.jpg	52289

Post it man, post it!  How about at one of the amiga.physik mirrors?
I'd vote for the face99.jpg...

>Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
>Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu (chris williams)
Subject: Re: Latest 3D packages, how do they fair?
Organization: FCIA Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:33:25 GMT

In article <BxxDAD.Jxt@CAM.ORG> menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies) writes:
>dyer@nrlvx1.nrl.navy.mil (Doug Dyer) writes:
>
>>With the latest in 3D wars, has anyone compared or reviewed these?:
>>Caligari24
>>Aladdin 4D (er, 3D?)
>>Real 3D

>	
>Caligari24, Octree's lower end product supports DCTV fo output as well as

 [A lot of neat info deleted]
>
>It's still not ready for release but I have permission from Octree
>to say what I want about the soft at this time. In fact , I just gave
>a demo of Broadcast3.0 at CARS (a montreal amiga users club).
>	
>You might want to know more about Broadcast3.0 ver C24. The only
>features that I can think of that Broadcast has over C24 is:
>AFFD's (animated heirarchical free-form deformation lattices),
>It's faster (fp and 040 versions),
>Slide resolutions upto 8000x8000
>Transport controller support.
>I don't know the price of Broadcast3.0 at this time. When I do, I'll
>post it.

   In case anyone is curious about what an "animated heirarchical
free-form deformation lattice" is: 

   It gives the user the ability to define a lattice of points that
serve as a "duct-works" that the object or heirarchy of objects 
travels through. Imagine that you wish to model the path that a piece
of paper takes on it's journey through a photocopy machine. If you
try to create morph targets for each bend in a system that only offers
morphing, you would find that the paper would start to bend before
it reached the bend. To compensate you would have to create more
targets. Ultimatly, you would have to create as many targets as frames
in the animation. In the AFFD system, a "tube" would be built, and this
tube would be bent into the shape of the desired path. The object/s
bend/stretch/squash to follow the shape of the tube. 

   It's an incredible technique, and one that most of the very high-end
packages lack. I first became aware of the method at this last SIGGRAPH.

                                       Chris Williams
                                          chrisw@fciad2.bsd.uchicago.edu
From: frostbit@src4src.linet.org (Rajesh Goel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Reflections in imagine.
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:12:34 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <1e0j1nINNijj@armory.centerline.com> troy@centerline (Troy Runkel) wr
ites:
>Greetings all,
>  I recently began using Imagine 1.1 on my Amiga 2000.  The image
>that I am currently working on consists of a red and white checked
>ground with a sphere resting on the ground.  There are two light
>sources just above the sphere and the camera is pointing at the
>sphere at about a 45 degree angle.  The sphere attributes has
>reflection set to 255 for all three colors.  When I render the image
>in trace mode the sphere reflects the ground OK but the top of the
>sphere is always black.  If I set the horizon color to something then
>that color will be partially reflected by the sphere, but the very top
>of the sphere will still be black.  How do I go about setting up my
>stage so that the top of the sphere will have a color and not be
>black?  Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>--Troy Runkel            troy@centerline.com


    Create an IFF image of whatever you want to see on top of sphere and use
that as your global BRUSH image (in global actor).

    I generally use a DARK BLUE -> Light blue spread created in ADPro when my
BG is a Sky.

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From: spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: 256 color workbench?
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:36:27 GMT
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov20.173519.8457@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>In <37080@cbmvax.commodore.com> spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:
>>The workbench cannot be opened in a HAM mode, so multiview is forced to display
>>HAM (or Extra HalfBrite) images on a separate HAM (EHB) screen. You can easily
>>open a 256 colour Workbench screen though using the screenmode prefs file - just
>>set the 'colors' slider to 256.
>
>Well, Multiview cannot display 256 color pictures on a 4 color workbench either,
>but it still opens on a workbench window.

Yes it can, it just won't look very good, because it is trying to map a 256
colour image to the 4 colours you have set for your WB. HAM and EHB are
different beasts, because the palette mapping functions in 3.0 do not handle
these.

> So it _should_ have an option to
>select where it should display the image. And if you are on it, add multiple

You can use the SCREEN option of MultiView from the CLI or WB ToolTypes if you
want MultiView to use a separate screen.

>Michael van Elst
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From: eyeq@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brent Burkholder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Imagine 2.0: Bad graphic quality??!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 04:44:10 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <Bxx4yG.463@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>
>Maybe i'm not doing something right w/ Imagine, but it's rendering some
>pretty horrible-looking anims/pictures.  I use 384x482 scenes, with ILBM
>24-bit mode, aspect 12x7 (default).  On one animation I did that used a
>sandstone mountain, the sandstone kept wiggling around!  That is.. the
>pixels that composed the sandstone kept shifting around in each frame,
>and made it look horrible.  And no matter how hard I try, I can never
>get a nice, clear picture.  There's always SOME aspect that makes it
>look like sh-t.  any advice? Thanks.
>
>-- 
>Sam Hulick          | "You can't discover new oceans unless you have the
>shulick@indiana.edu | courage to lose sight of the shore."  --Anon.
>(NeXTmail welcome)  |



  Lesson #1) Never, EVER use the roughness attribute when making an animation.
             It isn't consisten in it's placement of the random pixels so
             every frame is different. Make a random dither pattern in DPaint
             or something and map those on as bump maps if you want it.

  Lesson #2) Lighting is everything. Play with different lighting setups and
             distances. 2-3 lightsources, and an ambient light of about
             30,30,30 works well for me.

  Lesson #3) If you still don't get good pictures disregard #2, and experiment
             till your Amiga gives up in frustration. *grin* Also, might want
             to try different things in globals.




While I'm at it, someone asked about a black reflection on a metal spehere.
Some suggested that they can use an IFF of the sky (good suggestion), while
others said to use a gradient fill IFF. Instead of option 2, it's far easier
to set the Horizon color to a light blue, +Zenith color to a dark blue, and
then set the number of gradients between them to 255 (I forgot the terminology
it uses.. it's at the bottom right hand corner)


Brent Burkholder
eyeq@wpi.wpi.edu
From: James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: BB Vs ASDG
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:05:18 CST
Organization: TelePro Technologies

This message is in reference to the recent exchange of public messages
between representatives of ASDG, Black Belt Systems and GVP.

Frankly, I am a bit puzzled at the reaction that some people are having to
these messages. ASDG has done their level best to slam competing products
from the other two companies. They have done this by misrepresenting facts,
omitting facts, and out-right falsehood.

When the victims of this dishonest marketing ploy stepped forward to
protect themselves, in the same public fashion in which they were trashed,
a lot of people got upset. They seemed to think that this was childish
behavior befitting four-year olds in a sand box. The statements of defense
have been parodied into tantrum-like rantings -- "He lied, you smell."

I don't get it. Not a word of protest when the real crime was committed,
but lots of back-bench heckling when the aggrieved parties try to right the
wrongs done to them.

What happened to the American sense of justice and fair play. That seems to
have gone by the wayside, and now I hear cries from the greedy - "Shut up
you guys and write me more software!"

I think that Black Belt and GVP have every right to defend themselves in
the same public forum in which their products were trashed. And shame on
you if you don't think so.


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From: itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack)
Subject: MultiView (was Re: 256 color workbench?)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:04:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.164359.11853@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
> In article <BxtGBz.7Ho@fc.hp.com> koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren) writes:
> >
> >Hmm, I had just the opposite problem.  For me, multiview _always_ opens
> >on my workbench screen even when that results in horrible color
> >matching.  Maybe there's some option to control this: I haven't checked
> >the docs yet.
> 
> HAM8 pics will open on a screen, as will HAM.  There is a SCREEN option
> that forces MultiView to open pictures on a screen instead of a window.

Yep.  I _wish_ there was an option that said - open a window if workbench
can handle the colors, otherwise open a screen.  Anyone know if it can
do this?
 

Rich...
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From: meixner@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Matthias Meixner)
Subject: Re: Sliced HAM and Dynamic HAM
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:57:32 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <Bxt9wx.Jpv@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, jaxh@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Jon Hanson) writes:
> I'm in the middle of writing a general purpose, overscan IFF file viewer , and I want

How about supporting the new IFF-Compression format of IffConvert ?

You can find the source of it on FISH699.

> to support the aforementioned image types.
> Does anyone know the formats of these image types ? If they are IFF is there just
> an extra block for the extra data ?
> 

I would like to have the format too !

> Cheers, Jon... 

- Matthias

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: Jeff_Holinski@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeff Holinski)
Subject: Re: Gaps in brushmaps in Imagine. HELP!!!!!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:31:09 GMT

Are you doing the wrap as a "wrap x, wrap z"? I've done planets with 24 bit
images and I generally find that Using wrap and wrap z and not touching the
edit axis or transform axis will produce good results.
It could also be that the image written by DCTV is not quite correct. Try
loading the 24 bit image into AD-Pro and resave it from there and see if it
works better.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: easton@zds-oem.mi04.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: Video Toaster comes to Television
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:33:10 GMT

  Flipping thru my TV Guide for this week, I came across an ad that
had a picture of the Video Toaster in it.  It seems that the Discovery
Channel on cable will have a entire half hour show on the Video Toaster
this Tuesday Nov. 17 at 9 PM ET.

  I hope its more than a replay of the Toaster demo video.  :-)


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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Subject: aladdin
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:31:54 EST

whitley@dallas.sil.org writes:

[ ENTIRE requote by whitely deleted...]

WY>Does the program still write objects in ProDraw clip format?  I am considering
WY>this program as an addition to my DTP setup.

Not to nit-pick, but did you need to quote the ENTIRE orginal message
just to ask this??
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack)
Subject: Re: A4000 display placement
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:03:12 GMT

In article <1497@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com>, heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com (Paul Heu vd Netherlands) writes:
> bo24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Berend Ozceri) writes:
> > I received my A4000 two days ago and am busy playing around with it.
> > However, I noticed one problem (irritation): The DblNTSC mode shows way
> > to much to the right on my C1960 monitor. Even if I turn the horizontal
> > Can anyone help?
> 
> Have you installed the VGAONLY executable in devs:monitors??
> If not do this and reboot.  This should fix the problem.

I don't know about anyone else, but the VGAonly monitor reduces the
number of visible pixels on my horizontal.  Not a whole lot but enough
that the screen starts to scroll sideways a bit to accomidate it.
Is this normal?


Rich...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: aaronf@fc.sde.hp.com (Aaron Friesen)
Subject: Driver for Epson Scanner
Reply-To: aaronf@fc.hp.com
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:24:06 GMT


I recently inherited an Epson GT-4000 full color scanner.  Unfortunately,
it did not have any manuals with it.  Can anyone help me find out about
the beast?

I called ASDG about getting driver software, but they could not
guarantee that it would work.  Apparently, the GT-4000 was sold only in
Europe (so how did it get to the US?)  and is the model before the
current European GT-6000 and GT-8000 scanners.  Without knowing whether
it would work or not, I am apprehensive about spending so much money to
get the driver (it lists for ~US$200).

So, I'm turning to the net.  Has anyone successfully hooked this model
to the Amiga?  What driver software did you use?  Any leads on where
I could get a copy of the manual(s)?

If manuals are not available could someone that owns a current model
(I don't remember the model number in the US), please send me
information about the DIP settings?  I am hoping that they are the
same as the current models, since the scanner looks about the same,
with the DIP switches under a panel on the left/front of the scanner.

E-mail responses preferred.

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Thanks in advance,

Aaron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: rtillery@crash.cts.com (Rick Tillery)
Subject: Re: IFF to GIF Converter
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:43:17 PST

In article <1992Nov17.175507@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> meixner@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Matthias Meixner) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.171435.25027@aston.ac.uk>, frostmd@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Matthew Frost) writes:
>> Does anybody know where I can get hold of an IFF to GIF and/or IFF to 
>> Sun Raster file format converter. Either to run on the Amiga or a Sun 
>> Sparc 1?
>> 
 
I suggest a program I found a while back called AmGIF.  It'll convert
Amiga IFFs to GIF.  I haven't tried it on 8 bitplane IFFs yet, but it
works very well for the original type of images.  If it's not available
out there, I can post it to comp.binaries.amiga and some kind soul can
upload it to their favorite FTP sites.  (also, I still haven't seen my
TWO posts to comp.binaries.amiga...what gives?)

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	Look into Aladdin 4D.....

	I know it writes DCTV.... and I'm sure that if it does not
	support AGA now, it will soon.  It creates truely stunning
	images/animations.

	You can 'upgrade' to it for only $219 direct from Adspec Programming
	with your proof of ownership of Imagine  (manual cover).

	-Mike-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas)
Subject: Re: Trying to find the perfect morpher
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:26:21 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <stefanb.722261222@hathi> stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker) writes:
>This is the *SILLIEST* excuse I EVER heard for NOT using GadTools. Where
>did you get that? From your breakfast cereal box or the Enquire?

When was the last time you used GadTools?
GadTools was created for the purpose of making preferences-type utilities.
Trying to use it on full-blown apps is something close to the kiss-of-death.

>Do you *REALLY* think, that Commodore defines a new GUI standard, tells
>everybody to use it and then go through all the hassle of having thousands
>"2.0 compatible" programs which are not RTG compatible?

Well, was 2.0 itself "2.0 compliant".
Nope.
That said, you're probably right.

>BTW.: GadTools is an Intuition feature. RTG is a feature of the
>graphics.library, which Intuition uses...

And has often bypassed in the past.  Things are better under 3.0, so I hear.
And slower, for instance, on things like screen dragging....

>>mention, although they certainly do count) and so we've been writing custom
>>code for months.
>Lost time for REAL product enhancements.

No, it's unfortunately essential.

David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.
From: S.J.E.Champion@bradford.ac.uk (SJE CHAMPION)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: AMIGA - GIFs
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:21:54 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92161060@mail
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Helo all. I've been looking through usenet for the first time, and I've
found a section called Alt.binaries.pictures.misc , in which are
contained lots of GIFs in ASCII. I would like to know if there is any
way I can save these onto a P.C. formatted disk ( P.C.'s only, here )
and load and view them on my A500 at home ( running Cross-Dos and Wasp ).
I have a Hard drive and 4meg memory.

Hope someone can help a new face,

Thanks,

	Slimey

P.S. I have no Modem. In fact, I have no 'phone.
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