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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OU & Canes (was Re: Two new 1A conferences)
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:10:28 GMT
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul24.164855.17650@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.192740.3786@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>>>>
>>>>I don't really care who or where Miami plays when there's nothing at
>>>>stake.  (e.g. the aforementioned 1990 bowl game.)  When the championship
>>>>is on the line and they choose to stay home to play *the* bowl creampuff 
>>>>of the past decade, however ...
>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>      I agree completely.
>>
>>I suppose you consider Oklahoma to be a patsie too? The team that had a 33-2
>>record for the previous 3 years before Miami beat them for their first MNC?
>                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I thought that was Nebraska.  21-20, 2-pt conversion goal-line stand, etc.
>
>>The 2 losses were of course to the Canes as well. And I suppose you think
>>Nebraska is a patsie too? If so how is almighty Gods own schools record against
>>these imposters lately? When did you guys last shut the Big Red out? Get off
>>your high horse it'll give you a nose bleed. You guys are just pissed because
>>the power in college football is no longer in your hands. It's now in the
>>hands of the Canes, Huskies, and Noles and your team is being relegated to
>>the back seat, pompous attitudes and all.
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>The black pot rambling on about the kettle, obviously.
>
>>John "Dolphinatic" Turman
>
>
>-- 
>*************************************************************************
>GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "You may have a city slicker haircut,
>GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
>James Clyde     LSU '91   |                   -- Frisco Darlin

You're right about the first MNC being against the Huskers and I realized this
just as I hit the return key after typing send. And just for the record I am
not black I'm caucasoid. And of course you being from LSU it's obvious why
you'd want to take a shot at a Canes lover. Get ready for another choke season
for the pussycats.

John
-- 
The opinions expressed here are sole property of the author and are not
the opinions of Make Systems or any other entity. What a shame.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
John "Dolphinatic" Turman
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: fans (was ND fans)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:39:04 GMT

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>In article <55625@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason) writes:

>>And since coming to Indiana and being around more ND fans, I'm seeing
                                                    ^^

Are ND fans and Indiana residents the same?????

>>more poor behavior.  (My first year here, I watched t.u. beat Purdue
>>in the b-ball tourney.  Through no obnoxious behavior of my
>>own--except maybe an excited "yeah" or a clap--a couple of PU fans
>>threatened to "beat the shit" out of me.

>Well, that's because basketball is a religion in Indiana.  :-)

>But don't come off acting so damned high-and-mighty.  I've seen Texas fans

I think if you will read the entire post that you quoted from, it also pointed
out that unfortunatily(sp?) A&M fans certainly have some less than reputable
fans.  I think a point that should be made here is generalizations!  They
are hardly ever accurate, although I use them all of the time.

>get pretty hot about the Oklahoma game (and vice-versa), and I hear a lot

Now you're talking about that other little prep school down the road from
A&M.  You just have to expect things like this from them.:):):)

>more about problems in Little League games down in the Southwest, as far as
>parents getting on the refs, etc...  [don't dispute this, because I'm down
>in the Southwest this summer].  Fans act like this about everywhere.  I

You seem quite angry about being in the southwest!  I wish you a short stay. 

>wonder what would happen if one wandered in the wrong bleacher section
>during a Texas High School football game, and began cheering for the other

Probably turn up missing in action!  It's amazing how adults turn when their
kids are involved, everywhere.

>team.  Besides, isn't Texas the home of the lady who was going to shoot the
>mother of a girl who was beating out her daughter for the cheerleading
>squad?

>I have nothing against Texans, but don't you come off and start insulting
>Indiana people for something residents of your home state are just as
>guilty for doing.

Getting a little touching here, aren't we.  Chill out a little bit.  We
all know that indiana has the best football and basketball anywhere, they
just let the rest of the country win because they're such good sports. :):):)

>I wonder if Steve Chapin modeled the "Boilerweenie" after you...

>-- 

>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: kallen@cs.utk.edu (Karl Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Vols Chances for SEC
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:11:00 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <15595@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> iftekhar@elm.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Iftekhar Hussain) writes:
>
>I think that Tennessee will win the SEC title this year. Their biggest
>nemesis Bama will be playing at Knoxville. This means they can beat
>Bama soundly. As far the rest of the schedule is concern it should be
>a piece of cake for Vols .
>
>-Ifty

Oh, a Bama fan, eh? Trying to kill the Vols chances with a little anti-woofing.
Well, two can play at that game. 

I think Tennessee will be lucky to not lose four SEC games this year. 
We've got Georgia 'between the hedgehogs' as it were, Florida up here,
and the Rolling Tide in Knoxville, where the Vols have shown an 
amazing ability to lose whenever they see the color red. Throw in LSU
and South Carolina as away games, and that's one tough schedule. 

Furthermore, we're returning only one or two defensive starters, and only
three or four offensive starters. Our quarterback is an untested 
Sophomore, and our best running back goes by the nick-name 'Little Man'. 

That's right, Vol fans, stock up on Tums, and plan to be far away from
Knoxville on the third Saturday of October. It's gonna be a loooong
season. 

<And now for a little Bama demolition.> 

Personally, I don't see how Alabama won't win the SEC. After all, they're
clearly the best team. I'm sure they won't lose to Mississippi State. 
And they'll beat Tennessee by 20 or 30. Bet on it. Case closed. Take
it to the bank. Period. 

I remain,
Karl Allen
kallen@cs.utk.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Computer Predictions for Bowl Match-ups
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:31:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.185516.14201@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks) writes:
>demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee) writes:
>
>>                                                                             
>>  4. MICHIGAN       (695)  40. TULSA          (592)  76. CENTRAL MICH   (535)
>>  5. OKLAHOMA       (689)  41. LOUISIANA ST   (591)  77. RICE           (534)
>> 18. COLORADO       (628)  54. PITTSBURGH     (570)  90. EASTERN MICH   (500)
>
>Excuse me, way back here? I have a question. Why is it that for the past 
>two years everyone has ranked Oklahoma in the Top Five when they know they 
>shoule be much lower? I remember everyone talking about "How Oklahoma will
>beat Nebraska and Colorado and go to the Orange Bowl and play for the Nat'l
>Championship" last year. Requiescat in pacem, Sooners. Gary Gibbs has 
>proven to be as able a coach as Dan Quayle is a vice-president. Colorado 
>will share (at the very least - Hello, Kansas? Is your state ready for two
>winning football teams?) in its fourth. Gary Gibbs will work at a Baskin-
>Robbins in Norman.
>

Actually, a pretty good question.  A Sooner fan I am, but expectations aren't
really that high; Sooners Illustrated has us picked 3rd in the Big8.  We've
got great talent at the skill positions but lack depth.  We are still feeling
the effect of probation, we just haven't had much depth in the line (O or D).
This is changing, but slowly.  This year should be fun, because the big ex-
pectations aren't hanging over their heads.  Look out in '93 though.

BTW, why insult Quayle?  Gibbs has done a great job cleaning up the program.
He's even done okay recruiting, esp. this year.  But his on the field coaching
has caused some of us to pull out our hair.  We like him, but if we don't beat
the cows, and at least one of CU or NU, that may be it for him.

Assuming Gibbs lets Gundy throw early and often, and our PK can at least hit
1 of 3 by now:		
		OU  24
                CU  18  (trick play for the 2-pointer)

    OOOO                                                        
   O    O                                         |   Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            |                
   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |  dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com
    OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    |  dostalik@utdallas.edu  
      U    U                                      | 
       UUUU        Cale Gundy for Heisman!        | "Oh, yeah?"  "Yeah."  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: South Carolina schedule, please
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:40:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.053039.3003@hubcap.clemson.edu> trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>
>>The original USC:
>
>> Nov 21		@Clemson

Now Trevor, posting from a Clemson account your should know that the
11/21 game is the ONLY game that really matters.  And why, prey tell,
are you a Gamecock fan?  Speaking of bad mascots, The USC seems it 
should have Frank Perdue as a corporate sponsor.....


>Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
>                  go gamecocks                       |     |     |
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Too bad....


-- 
Jeff Butera <> Math Grad Student, N.C. State <> jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu

DISCLAIMER: My views are my own and I'll be a big N.C.State Wolfpack 
fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kcastro@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: UCLA opponent on 10th October?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:39:18 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <vamplew.711764486@probitas>, vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew) writes:
> In October this year I'll be taking part in the Australian Kookaburras
> American Football tour to the US and the UK. According to our schedule
> we will be seeing a game at the Rose Bowl on October 10th.
> 
> What I would like to know is - who is UCLA's opponent for this game?
> 
> Also we don't get much college football down here so can you also let me
> know whether this is going to be a close game or a massacre or what?

I believe they will be playing Stanford.  Should be a pretty good game.  Be
sure to enjoy the smog INSIDE the Rose Bowl (on a really good day it will
obscure your view of the field).

--kathy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@purcell.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:36:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.183257.2005@cis.ohio-state.edu> atchison@ozma.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes:
>In article <BrwLtp.LHo@ais.org> ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
>>ti.com>
>
>>I'm curious to find out how many 
>>college stadiums sell beer.   Michigan Stadium doesn't sell any kind 
>>of alcohol.  That being the source of my main college football experience,
>>I was surprised to see beer sold at the Rose Bowl this last year.  
>>(So surprised that I bought a couple.) 
>>Is it common for college stadiums to sell beer/alcohol?  
>
>No alcohol sales at Ohio Stadium.  The 'bota bag' is pretty much required
>game day attire, though.  The no beer-sales policy REALLY pissed off the
>30,000+ fans showing up for Ohio Glory games this spring.  I'd be surprised
>if they didn't try to take advantage of this $$$ opportunity next spring ...
>(providing they and the league make it to next spring, of course :))
 
No alcohol sales at Notre Dame, but a lot of people sneak it in anyway.
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Uniforms (was Re: ND lovers / haters)
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:08:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul18.095754.24431@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, sdb@redbeard.physics.fsu.edu (Scott D. Berry) writes...
>In article <1992Jul17.200048.5227@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>>rszczerb@purcell.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>>> acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Football the way it oughta look.  When you watch these teams play each 
>>>>other, you can't tell what year it is.  I just wish the helmets were still 
>>>>leather.
>>>
>>>I may disagree with the ordering of the top three teams, but
>>>I love the part about the leather helmets.  White cleats
>>>and astroturf just don't belong.
>>
>>What a bunch of crock.  You only like leather helmets because you are
>>sitting in the stands, not getting your head busted open in the line.
>>Besides, I like the sounds of plastic thundering across the field after
>>a nasty hit.  Gotta give you the astroturf though...
>>
>Wasn't it the leather helmets that was responsible for our beloved president
>Gerald Ford after his years as a center at Michigan (early 30's)?  At least
>that's what I like to think...

I'll buy that, but I think the problem is more one of electing former football 
players to public office than of inadequate equipment.

> 
>Scott D. Berry    Assistant Professor of Physics    Florida State University

R Dendy
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: fans (was ND fans)
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:38:01 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <9207302224.AA15066@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)  
writes:

+ A&M fans were jerks.  (I'm being extremely nice here.)  Now I work with
+ an Aggie who has shown by example that not all Aggies are a**holes (and
+ some, in fact, are actually respectable :)

Shhhhh! We can't let that get out.

Is it time for the kickoff games woofing to begin???

James
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Heisman Poll Update
Organization: UMCC
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:12:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.151509.27715@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher) writes:
>>Glyn Milburn, LB      Stanford             4 pts.
>	       ^^
>	     RB/KR
>
>What is all this telling us about the quality of this poll?
>Probably that it's just as bad as the real one.
>
>And the fact the season hasn't started yet means that "our" voters
>are able to avoid the hype.
>
>
>--Gidi
>
Avoid the hype?  I think it''s all hype, based on the fact that 
the season hasn't started yet.  :)
It seems, judging from the football preseason magazines I've seen, 
that Rick Mirer's being groomed for the Heisman this year.  Any 
votes he gets have to be hype.  Bettis is a better ND player and 
there are plenty of better QBs out there. 
Heisman Hype[tm]--I can't wait for it to really get underway in 
                  September.  ugh. :)
>
From: lein@garage.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Deserving Heisman?
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:16:02 GMT
Organization: Bellcore

In article <1682CDC9B.SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt) writes:
>In article <2835@wrdis01.af.mil>
>demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee) writes:
>>
>>>Is it true that Jim Brown never won the Heisman while at Syracuse?
>>
>>True.
>>
>>>If so, does anyone know his stats and those of the actual Heisman winner?
>>
>>I don't have the stats handy (anyone?), but wasn't Jim Brown's senior
>>year the year that Paul Hornung won the Heisman while leading Notre
>>Dame to a 2-9 record?
>>
>>Darryl E. Marsee
> 
>Jim Brown (6-2, 212), HB, Syracuse, 1956 (5th in Heisman voting)
>                                           TOTAL
>TEAM      RUSHING         PASSING         OFFENSE      RECEIVING
>W L T   CAR YDS AVG    ATT CMP YDS TD    PLAYS YDS   NO YDS TD  AVG
>7 1 0   158 986 6.2*    4   3   76  1     162 1062    5  56  1 11.2
> 
>          PUNT     K.O.
> INT.    RETURN   RETURN    SCORING
>NO YDS   NO YDS   NO YDS   TD XP PTS
> 3  72    4  15    7 169   14 22 106
> 
>* This figure led the nation.
> 
> 
>Paul Hornung (6-2, 205), QB, Notre Dame, 1956 (Heisman winner)
>                                                     TOTAL
>TEAM      RUSHING             PASSING               OFFENSE
>W L T   CAR YDS AVG    ATT CMP INT  PCT YDS TD   PLAYS YDS TDR
>2 8 0    94 420 4.5    111  59  13 .532 917  3    205 1337  10
> 
>                               PUNT     K.O.
>RECEIVING   INT.    PUNTING   RETURN   RETURN     SCORING
> NO YDS    NO YDS   NO  AVG   NO YDS   NO YDS   TD XP FG PTS
>  3  26     2  59   31 37.6    4  63   16 496    7 14  0  56
> 
> 
>Note that John Brodie, Stanford, led the nation in nearly every passsing
>category in 1956 and finished 7th in the Heisman voting



Gee, and Notre Dame didn't have Brent Mussberger(sp?) backing Hornung
then.  Looks like Syracuse players lost twice to Notre DAme 
(MacPherson and Jim Brown) - who was it that said Notre Dame does 
what's best for college football (I know, you'll say that it was
the voters fault and not the school :))

John L
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:13:39 EDT
From: <KPS@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND stops series w/Miami (was Re: Wash-ND)
 <1992Jul20.145028.6475@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>

In article <1992Jul20.145028.6475@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>,
robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day                   ) says:

>As mentioned above, Penn St. cancelled this series, not ND.  I think
>the reason was that they needed to make room for their Big10 schedule.
>I think they may have also claimed to be pissed about ND's NBC deal,
>but this sounds like a cop out to me.

I believe you are right about Penn State being the one to cancel the
series. I also believe it is because Penn State needed to make room in
their schedule for the Big Ten. I don't know if Penn State's athletic
administration is pissed or not about Notre Dame's deal with NBC (every
other school is so why not?) But I seriously doubt they would end a series
because of that. And with PSU having won 8 out of the past 11 games against
Notre Dame, I also seriously doubt they would use this as a cop out for
ending the series with Notre Dame (if the implication is that they are
afraid of Notre Dame).


Kevin S.
KPS at psuvm.psu.edu
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PSU Dress Code / No Smoking
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:12:28 GMT
Organization: UMCC

In article <92205.135530KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> <KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
 [PSU uniform arguments deleted.  I like 'em just the way they are :)]
>By the way, Penn State just announced a no-smoking policy in the stadium.
>I say it's about damned time. Smokers had the attitude that just because they
>were outside they "couldn't possibly be bothering anyone". Meanwhile those
>around them were gagging and waving the smoke away all day long to see the
>game.  Is this policy leading-edge or has Penn State been lagging behind the
>rest of the country? I'm a little curious.
>
>
>Kevin S.
>KPS at psuvm.psu.edu

Michigan has had this policy at indoor and outdoor stadiums for 
awhile.  At the football stadium, it isn't enforced (from what 
I've seen).  I don't know how large the stadium in Happy Valley
is, but I'd be surprised to see it enforced there.  With 
100,000+ in Ann Arbor, there's no way ushers/police can even 
think about stopping smokers.  They're too preoccupied with 
catching the evil marshmallow tosser anyway.  :)

==================================================================
Steve Johnston                                Go Blue! 
ssj@ais.org                              Webber/Rose & Co. 1993
Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
Bluefront@HeroMud II
==================================================================
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: more nicknames and mascots
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:49:08 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jul21.173929.17121@news.iastate.edu> jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
>While we're on the subject of nicknames and such:
>
>Teams with meteorological phenomenon for nicknames and flying creatures
>for mascots:
>
>Miami (FL) Hurricanes  (sorry, don't know the exact name of the waterfoul)
>Iowa State Cyclones    (the cardinal)
>
>Iowa State's nickname used to be the Cardinals, but after a big football win
>many years ago, a sports writer compared to the football team to a cyclone, so
>the nickname was eventually changed to the Cyclones; the Cardinal mascot was
>kept, however.
>

In a similar vien, Alabama Crimson Tide, with an elephant as the mascot. 
Supposedly the team used to be called the Elephants, but some sportswriter,
decades ahead of his time, gushed "The Alabama elephants rolled over their
opponenets like a Crimson Tide" and the name stuck.

TRUE?!?! You tell me. I sure like "Rooooooooollllllllll Tide" a lot better
than "go elephants" but thats just me.....

-rob
rooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll tide roll
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Forbidden topics for this group
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:46:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Brt64r.81w@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps) writes...
>In article <21JUL199217005158@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
> 
>>I wouldn't be so proud of winning the UofA bowl, though.
> 
>   Who's UofA?  We beat Baylor (pretty bad).

The Pussycats.  In whose stadium you played.  (I know, after drinking 
Coronas all night, you didn't know where you were.)  They're the school that 
had so much trouble winning a bowl game they had to invent their own, and 
give themselves an automatic bid (provided, of course, they achieve at 
least a 6-5 record).  And they still can't get in.  Which is why you played 
Baylor.

> 
>-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
>Steve Creps, Indiana University Hoosiers
>1991 Copper Bowl champions
>creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

R Dendy