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From:         Gert Lokhorst <LOKHORST@RCL.WAU.NL>
Subject:      More benchmark results 486 33 OS/2

-----------------------------------------------------
Content:  Continuing Discussion
SUMMARY:  More Benchmarks for SAS under OS/2
E-ADDR:   Lokhorst@rcl.wau.nl
NAME:     Gert Lokhorst
ADDR:     Agricultural Univerisity, Wageningen, Netherlands
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And here are my results

            System
OS          OS/2 2.0
SAS         SAS 6.06
Vendor      Taiwanees XYZ
Chip        486 33 DX2
Bus         ISA
RAM         16MB
HD          200MB HPFS partition on SCSI
Controller  Adaptec 17##A SCSI ISA

Mode         datastep 1       ds 2       sort   reg
DMS 1 sess    6.97            7.46       3.20   4.28
DMS 2 sess    1m39.21         2m19.28    32.15  1m11.63

The last one is two SAS sessions on the desktop running the
same test. You can do it but it is not fun!
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:12:55 -0500
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject:      Re: The RETAIN Statement
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 CONTENT:   Response f/u
 SUMMARY:   Retain with macro works under VMS 6.07
 REL/PLTF:  6.07/ VMS
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 DATE:      10 Sept 1992

f/u on:

>Same problem on V6.07 for HP300 (UNIX).

Regarding the RETAIN statement without multiple macro calls, the code
works fine under 6.07 on VMS.  I think it did fail under 6.06, but I
haven't had a chance to see exactly where/what the problem was (it
looked like it failed with the same error someplace, but then continued
on to work later?).
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:32:48 PDT
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From:         Melvin Klassen <KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Last (??) word on variable lengths

"Paul A. Thompson" <pat@PO.CWRU.EDU> writes:
>I looked at the algorithm.  It was all written in single precision,
>and these values were being used to minimize this complex function.
>Essentially, this was the entire problem!

You didn't indicate how/where you obtained the FORTRAN code,
but if the program was written for the Control Data Corporation CDC-6000
series computer, "short-precision" floating-point used 60-bit words,
and "long-precision" used 120-bit words.

In this case, single-precision would have been entirely adequate,
especially when compared to the 64-bit words used for "long-precision"
on IBM computers, where 3 of those 64 bits are likely to be zero,
due to the hexadecimal-normalization performed by the IBM hardware.

So, take a look at the 'PRECISION= type-param-value' clause as part
of the 'REAL' statement in the Fortran 90 standard.  Use it as a way of
writing **portable** FORTRAN code.  A case of "programmer, know thy hardware".
From: afowler@CCLINK.FHCRC.ORG (annfow)
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          Can someone please tell me how to get into the SAS-L
          archives?   Thanks!
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:52:03 EDT
Reply-To:     Ekeho <V1354G@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
From:         Ekeho <V1354G@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Macro output on the screen

Hi Folks
I am testing a small Macro program. I would like to show data input
message on the screen, but the program output the message on the log
file.
I expect your reply. Thank you in advance.

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From: HILL@CMSUVMA.BITNET (Nancy)
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Subject: Looking for Volunteers for MWSUG'92
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:39:33 GMT
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We are still looking for volunteers for the MWSUG'92 conference to
work as presentation timers and to work the registration desk.
If you are interested in helping out contact me at my email address
HILL@CMSUVMA
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:18:57 CDT
Reply-To:     "J. Philip Miller" <phil@WUBIOS.WUSTL.EDU>
From:         "J. Philip Miller" <phil@WUBIOS.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject: MY 2-cents re: SAS Manuals On-Line (fwd)
Comments: To: SAS Mailing List <SAS-L@ohstvma.ircc.ohio-state.edu>

 Margie Gurwit <CCMARGIE@MIZZOU1.BITNET> writes:
>
> I also agree with Deb Cannon that in order to answer many questions you
> have to get out all of your SAS manauals!  I don't see why SAS can't
> write consice explainations so we don't have to go through all the books
> to find that key piece of information we are looking for.
>
The folks in the Publications Department are always open to specific
suggestions.  In addition SAS Institute is interested in user authored books
and they will publish or if published by someone else, they will sell.

Writing documentation is hard, hard work.

-phil

--
     J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
	 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
     phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:02:04 CDT
Reply-To:     "Anup K. Roy" <anuproy@uiuc.edu>
From:         Anup Kumar Roy <anuproy@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      SAS/Lookup in Release 6.07 TS301 (MVS, CMS & VMS) ...
Comments: To: Deb Cannon 319-335-6321 <ADPDKHTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:51:00 CDT you said:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>CONTENT:  Speculative Question
>SUMMARY:  SAS Institute's stand on IBM/Book Manager
>REL/PLTF: 5.18/MVS 6.06/MVS 6.07/MVS 6.06/OS/2 6.04/PC-DOS
>E-ADDR:   adpdkhts@uiamvs.bitnet
>NAME:     Deb Cannon
>PHONE:    319-335-6321
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     Our site has recently installed and implemented IBM's new
>     Book Manager, an online manual system.  All their manuals shipped
>     with new software will be distributed in this way.  That's not to
>     say you can't get manuals anymore, but this new systems is so slick
>     that I'll never use a paper manual again if I don't have to...what
>     impressed me the most was it's ability to interface with SDSF (MVS
>     display facility for spool/print datasets):  Placing your cursor on
>     a message in the console log, for example, and invoking a PFkey
>     that invokes Book Manager, will take you *directly* to the manual
>     that explains that message.  Not to mention the waste, in both
>     productivity and earth resources, that having manuals online will
>     prevent.
>
>     Speaking of manuals, I was working on a SAS problem yesterday
>     that caused a pile of 5 manuals on my desk, all open to the
>     page I was consulting.  While I have no beef against SAS
>     documentation per se, wouldn't it be great to have it all
>     ONLINE?  With indexes (a Book Manager feature) , so you can search
>     entire 'sets' of manuals for all existing verbage on a feature?
>     IBM, I'm told, has left a door open for third-party documentation.
>     Anyone heard how SAS is going to react to this?  Surely all the
>     manuals are already in machine-readable format.....
>
>     Deb

Hi, Deb. Thought I should mention to you that you take a look at SAS/LOOKUP.
I've just installed an experimental copy on our CMS installation; I haven't
done much with it though, yet anyhow. This is SI's first attempt to deal
with putting the Master Index online, and see how the world reacts to it.

I don't know anything about SI's corporate stand on using IBM's 3rd. party
option for Book Manager, but I'm of the opinion that they ought to take a
look at it. I wonder how many customers would be able to afford paying
first-year fees and yearly maintenance for LOOKUP, if and when the product
goes into production!

I recommend that you give your SAS marketing-rep. a call and get a Supplement
signed so that they can send you a trial copy for your MVS installation.

Hope this helps.

- anup k roy, u of illinois at urbana-champaign
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:17:51 CST
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From:         Jon Blevins <AP16@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      FSP/IBM3827 printer

Folk,
I am developing a prototype application in FSP using FSLETTER under 6.07
on MVS with output going to an IBM3827 laser prt.

The manuals suggest contacting support for information concerning
each type of printer. I called N. Carolina, talked to 'Lynn'. She
said they do not support information on different printers.
AMAZING!

So, If anyone can suggest directions to look for information
in my hernia inducing set of manuals it would be appreciated.

I am specifically interested in using different page & formdefs
while in FSLETTER, rather than using the internal reader to submit
a batch program from FSLETTER (SAS COMMUNICATIONS, 1991, 2nd quarter)

Any help or commentary would be appreciated.  Thanks

Jon Morgan Blevins
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:19:24 CDT
Reply-To:     mary conklin gomberg <mecg@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
From:         mary conklin gomberg <mecg@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Census table programs

------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary:  SAS programs to print U.S. census tables
E-mail:   mary@chas.uchicago.edu    or mecg@midway.uchicago.edu
Name:     Mary Conklin Gomberg
Address:  Center for Health Administration Studies
	  University of Chicago     969 E. 60th St, Chicago, IL 60637
Phone:    (312) 702-7753
------------------------------------------------------------------

I've created a SAS driver program and 272 "include" modules which will
print any combination of the 272 tables from the 1990 U.S. census STF3
tapes.  I should soon have a similar set of SAS modules for STF1 census
data.

In the belief that no one in the world should have to repeat this
tedious process, I would be willing to share this code, if others
think it would be useful.  They should work with any release of SAS.

The programs use the University of Missouri-St. Louis/John Blodgett
variable names, except that I have changed a few of the ID variable
names to match those in the Census Bureau Technical Documentation.
I would also be willing to share my modified version of the UMSL/Blodgett
STF903C macro, which I used to convert raw STF3 data to SAS.

The data lines for each table are derived from the variable
labels in UMSL/Blodgett macro ATTR903.  Some tables have received
some editing and look more or less "pretty".  Many have not, but
this is very simple code and it's easy to pretty up anything you
care about.  Basically, it's an enormous lot of put statements
with a driver that selects tables and paginates.

My thanks to John Blodgett and the University of Missouri Urban
Information Center for making their work available.  I chose this
path rather than use the California profiles for several reasons:
my users use Census Bureau documentation and want to see specific
tables for specific records rather than a standard set, these
requests will vary widely and may continue for years, and I wanted
80-column by 60-line output.

Contact me if you'd like a copy of these programs.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:23:39 PDT
Reply-To:     "P. Oldenkamp 5-4481" <oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
From:         "P. Oldenkamp 5-4481" <oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Infile question
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu, okoks@PC.IBT.DK

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CONTENT:  REPLY
REL/PLTF: 6.07 UNIX
E-ADDR:   oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.boeing.com
NAME:     Paul OldenKamp
PHONE:    206-865-4481
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Karsten Strobek asked,

> I have a question about the use of infile to read data into SAS.
> I have some output from an Ingress-database. This database uses a <tab> as
> delimiter. Is it possible to get SAS to understand this too?

I think you want the EXPANDTABS option of the infile statement.  RTFM on
page 381 of the SAS Language manual.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:58:43 -0500
Reply-To:     flasar@WUGCRC.WUSTL.EDU
From:         flasar@WUGCRC.WUSTL.EDU
Subject:      re: SAS Manuals on-Line
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu@WUGATE.wustl.edu
Comments: cc: FLASAR@wugate.wustl.edu

Margie Gurwit brought up some good points regarding the 'dark side' of on-line
documentation.  The thought of users constantly printing out pages of the
documentation and then tossing them seems to negate a large part of the savings
involved in putting documentation on line.
    For me, the main usefulness of on-line documentation would lie in a hyper-
text like interface that allow for quick and easy searches, preferably with
multiple windows to gather the pertinent information.  This would NOT be an
easy task.  If it were easy to provide a usable set of index keywords to the
documentation for on-line purposes, it would be just as easy to rearrange the
manuals to reflect a more coherent structure!
    It will come, but I'm not holding my breath (or selling my bookcases!).
    Dan Flasar
    Washington U School of Medicine - GCRC
    St. Louis, MO

dir
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:51:31 MET
Reply-To:     "Wim A.J.G. Lemmens" <U439002@HNYKUN11.BITNET>
From:         "Wim A.J.G. Lemmens" <U439002@HNYKUN11.BITNET>
Subject:      title-line, date, pagenumber

SAS-version 6.07

Hello Sas-L-ers,

In version 6.07 the date is printed AFTER the TITLE-line(s)

Is there a way to get the date on the FIRST line of the printed output,
right in front of the PAGENUMBER, and behind (on the SAME line) of the
TITLE1-specification ??

Has the concerning system-OPTIONS been changed ???  (VERSION 6.06 --> 6.07)


Thanks....

Wim Lemmens
University of Nijmegen
The Netherlands
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:36:44 EDT
Reply-To:     "John R. Gerlach" <ACS03043@UDELVM.BITNET>
From:         "John R. Gerlach" <ACS03043@UDELVM.BITNET>
Subject:      The RETAIN Statement

   Greetings,

       There seems to be a problem with the RETAIN statement.  Consider
   the code below which produces a single observation data set containing
   n-variables initialized to zero using the RETAIN statement.  At the
   96th, 97th, and 98th iteration, SAS generates an "Internal compiler
   stack overflow" error message.  A patch to this problem is to use
   two RETAIN statements.  Any comments?

       The SAS (6.06) code was executed on an IBM 3090 running VM/CMS.


                                          --- John Gerlach



   %macro nth_run(n);
      data ds;
         retain var1-var&n. 0;
      run;
      proc print;
         title "The &n.th iteration";
      run;
      proc datasets library=work;
         delete ds;
      run;
   %mend nth_run;

   %macro doit;
      %do i = 90 %TO 100;
         %nth_run(&i.)
         %end;
   %mend doit;

   %doit
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:40:48 EDT
Reply-To:     David Hopkins <DHOPKINS@ERS.BITNET>
From:         David Hopkins <DHOPKINS@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      PC DOS SAS 6.03 XPORT Engines

Help SAS Users,

I have an OS/2 SAS, 6.06 transport dataset.  Can I read in this file
using PC DOS SAS 6.03 using the XPORT engine?  I have a couple of lines
of code that are not working:


             filename  indata  'd:\disclose.dat' ;  run;
             libname   indata  xport ; run;

and the error message:

ERROR:  The access method XPORT for library INDATA could not be loaded.

Is there a more appropriate engine for transportable files for SAS 6.03?
Or, what is the obvious problem that I do not see?  The rest of the job
is not important because the job stops here.


--David Hopkins

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