From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: Evolution implied by the Bible
Organization: LLNL
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:11:16 GMT

In article <yZuuwB3w165w@kalki33.uucp> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Kalki Dasa) writes:
>martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas) writes:
>
: If Man was created only thousands of years ago, and we are all
: descended from common stock... why is there such a wide variety
: in our genetic pool today?
>
>Man was not created only thousands of years ago, but has existed almost
>since the beginning of the present cycle of creation, some billions of
>years ago.

	Kalki Dasa, your postings have great amusement value.

	There is not a shred of fossil evidence for humanity being
around as long as the Earth has. Surely, some of all those people
would accidentally die by drowning in a river or an ocean and become
entombed in sediment for future generations to discover.

	And where are all those ruins of cities?

	And what did people eat before land plants and animals became
abundant? I suppose one could live off of fish and seaweed, but...

	And what of the Precambrian? Can you imagine people subsisting
on nothing but masses of blue-green algae (pond scum) for hundreds of
millions of years? I suppose if one eats nothing but that, one might
begin to enjoy it, but I'm sure that Long Pig would be a lot tastier.
And let's not forget there is geochemical evidence that there was too
little oxygen in the air to breathe for the earlier Precambrian, at
least.

	And what do the Vedas say about dinosaurs? Are there good
descriptions of any? Like, a beast that looked like a big snake with
an elephant grafted into the middle? And do the Vedas describe a time
when the only visible life was pond scum?

: Do you believe that the ancestors of people as diverse as South
: American forest pygmies, Zulus, Europeans and Japanese were the
: same as yours only a few thousand years ago?  If you do (and you
: must, if you take the Bible at all seriously) then you must believe
: a great deal of evolution has occurred since then.  If not, I 
: would like to hear your arguments.
>
>These are not different species. They are all members of a single
>species. There has been no evolution of homo sapiens into different
>species. In fact, there are 400,000 species of human-like beings
>throughout the universe, and they do not evolve into or from one
>another, but have existed separately since the beginning of the kalpa.

	Do you have any argument other than:

		How do I know? The Vedas told me so

: If you do admit this much evolution can take place in such a short
: time (hundreds of generations) then what objections can you take
: against the extension of the idea to the theory of Darwinian
: evolution as it stands today?
>
>Darwinian evolution means evolution of species. It is a false
>explanation of how there came to be many different species. The example
>you gave is not pertinent to Darwinian evolution, for it does not
>describe different species.

	Don't forget to chant:

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/Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
/lip@s1.gov
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