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From: jpabst@dante.nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: is there a FAQ for this newsgroup
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:41:50 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University

I'm just learning to use my hp48 for more than simple addition, subtraction,  
etc. and storing equations in the var list.

I also just found this list and have a few questions - 
1) Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?  If there is how can i get it.
2) I just started using my serial interface and got a program "roldx" off the  
hp goodies disk #1 from EduCalc, which is like a rollodex for the hp. It says  
in roldx.doc file to use CR\LF to separate lines in the address, but I don't  
know what this is. has anybody used this program and figured it out

That's all for now I guess.  I have lots of question's, but I'll bet there's  
enough in the FAQ to keep me busy indefinitely, so i won't waste space here.

jpabst@dante.nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Unused space in DEMO ROM?
From: srgpjlt@grv
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 00:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: srgpjlt@grv
Organization: DSIR, Lower Hutt, New Zealand.


From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Would like info on the Demo card
Message-ID: <2b111652.2238.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

You can get an FAQ for the HP48 via anonymous ftp from seq.uncwil.edu.  I
hope this helps.

Bill Levenson
From: tim@nijinsky.ipac.caltech.edu (Tim Conrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Inserting an object in a list
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:31:01
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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NNTP-Posting-Host: nijinsky.ipac.caltech.edu
In-reply-to: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com's message of Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:40:02 GMT

Mika Heiskanen and Joe Horn have both conbtributed code and comments
(either in email or on the net) to this discussion and after thinking
them over and playing around some more, the following is what I came
up with. Comments welcome. I've included extra code for making it
reasonably safe. I call it LINS (ListINSert).

Disclaimer: I can't break it, but you might be able to. If you do,
don't blame me.

%%HP: T(3)A(D)F(.);
@ LINS;  {} %i obj --> {}'
@ Insert obj into list {} AFTER element %i. 
@ %i<= 0 inserts at head of the list,
@ %i > SIZE of {} appends to the end of the list.
@ "{1 2 3 5 6 7} 3 4 LINS" requires ~ .016 sec.s as best as I can measure it.
@ 52.5 Bytes, Checksum = #411h
"::
 CK3&Dispatch
 # 510
 ::
  ROT INNERDUP #2+ROLL OVER #3+ ROLL COERCE 3PICKSWAP OVER #MIN
  #- #2+UNROLL #1+ {}N
 ;
;"

Thanks for the help, y'all!

-- Tim

PS. I used Detlef Mueller's RPL library. Thanks Detlef!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: rkbg2554@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Robert K. Brunner)
Subject: Re: What's the latest in HP's
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:53:48 GMT

mrr2ro@bradley.edu (Arturo Pinzon) writes:

>Does anybody knows of HP coming up with something newer or better
>than the hp48sx?. 

>I am about to buy a hp48sx, all my classmates have it
>and it is no fair, since they solve complex matrixes in 1 minute 
>with the hp, it takes me 5 minutes with anyother calculator.

>It is a $500 expence if I get the memory, equationcard, EE-card.

You can get just the 48SX for less than $300, and achieve 90% of the
benefit of your $500 setup.

>I do not want to buy it and a month later find out the HP has
>come up with something newer and better.


>I am reluctant to spend that money since HP is usually putting new 
>things out every year. The HP48sx has been out for 3 years, and 
>It is hard to beleive That Hp, has not done any improvements to it 
>and put a newer better model out.

The HP-41 line was sold for about 10 years before being replaced by
the 48SX.  That means you have seven years left.

>Not That I have complaints about the HP48sx.

Nor I. Not major ones, anyway.

>So if you have heard any rumors about a newer model or improvement
>of the HP48sx, please let me know. Either by posting a follow up
>reponce or throuug e-mail

I don't have any idea about forthcoming models.  They may introduce
one next week.  I doubt that any new model will be significantly
better unless it costs a lot more money, so if the current one does
what you want, why not get it.

Robert Brunner
brunner@uirvld.csl.uiuc.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams)
Subject: Re: Emulating a keypress in sys_RPL???
Originator: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:46:40 GMT

In <By3z4E.66o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rmg53668@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan M. Grant) writes:
>After seeing JKH's key sysevals table:
>So who's gonna make up the first HP macro recorder?
>Is it a useful thing?
>- Ryan Grant

er, that would be the _second_ macro recorder. here's one that records
what you do to the stack:


%%HP:T(3);
@
@ MACRO - a keystroke recorder for the HP48.
@
@         Author:  Mark Warburton
@                  mwarburt(at)sirius.UVic.CA
@
@ Download this program to your HP48 and store it as MACRO.
@ The program must be named MACRO so that, when you've finished
@ recording your keystrokes and you hit MACRO, the command "MACRO"
@ is not recorded as well.
@
@ The program will kick the HP48 out of User mode when it finishes,
@ regardless of its previous status.  If you use User mode, you can
@ just remove the -62 CF from the program.
@
@ Instructions:  Hit MACRO to start recording.  A "3" (sideways "M" which
@                stands for Macro) will appear in the status line to indicate
@                that recording is active.  Hit MACRO again to stop
@                recording.  The completed program will be returned to
@                the stack.
@
\<< IF -63 FC? THEN "\<<" 'MDAT' STO
\<< \-> s \<< IF s "MACRO" \=/ THEN 'MDAT' " " s + STO+ END \>> \>>
'\GbENTER' STO
\<< \-> s \<< 'MDAT' " " s + STO+ s OBJ\-> \>> \>> '\GaENTER' STO
-62 SF -63 SF 3 SF
ELSE -62 CF -63 CF 3 CF MDAT OBJ\-> { \GaENTER \GbENTER MDAT } PURGE END
\>>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mrr2ro@cs1.bradley.edu (Arturo Pinzon)
Subject: RPL tutorial. ANYONE??
Organization: Bradley University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:00:14 GMT


I would like to find some RPL/RPN programming tutorial for the HP48sx.

Th owners manual have some examples but I would like to know more
about it.  I Know trial and error is a good way to learning, but it is
time consuming. 

If anybody Knows of where could I find info about it ie: Tutorial, manuals, 
place to order from, site to download from, bbs, or anyplace that has them
available to download or for sale. Would you be so kind to let me know.

Thank you very much.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: rmg53668@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan M. Grant)
Subject: Re: Emulating a keypress in sys_RPL???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:19:23 GMT

After seeing JKH's key sysevals table:
So who's gonna make up the first HP macro recorder?
Is it a useful thing?

- Ryan Grant

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: RRSE50@waccvm.corp.mot.com (John Pigott)
Subject: Re: 7 Re: EQ card with Tetris
Organization: Motorola
Date: 17 Nov 1992 16:57:39 MST


Is there a list of the bugs in the Equation card Rev A?.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: hsu_wes@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Wesleyan Hsu)
Subject: Would like info on the Demo card
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:03:29 GMT

I just got a 48SX last week, so you guys may be hearing a lot of "stupid"
questions from me.

I recall someone mentioning that there was a Demo card for the HP48SX
available for about $9.  Whoever has one, could you please email me and tell
me what sort of things it demonstrates, and where I can get one?  Thanks.

A new HP48SX user,

Wes Hsu
Johns Hopkins U
Dept.of.ECE

PS.  Where can I get the FAQ for this group?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: 3D TicTacToe (HP41 -> HP48?)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:47:18 GMT

An HP48 version of 3D TicTacToe was recently posted to comp.sources.hp48.
This version uses a 3 by 3 by 3 playing field.

I believe the HP41 Games Pack had a 4 by 4 by 4 version.  If so, has
anyone yet ported that software to the 48?  If not, I'll do it!
But before I start, would I be violating a copyright law if I did??

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
From: akcs.alistairl@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Alistair S Lang)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: is there a FAQ for this newsgroup
Message-ID: <2b0b6684.2177.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Hey! What's happening to this text editor? I deleted all those above
errors but theve reappeared, and the word_wrap feature is screwing
around. Could someone please fix it.

A S Lang

From: akcs.bill_c@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Bill Cropper)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: HP 48SX and manual for sale
Message-ID: <2b117a2a.2241.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Jason:

I am interested in the Programmer's Manual.  Please call me at 
215-284-9493 (collect if need be) to make arrangements.

bill_c

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
Subject: Printing Graphs
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:37:42 GMT

Is their a way I can convert a graph on the 48 to some sort of format
that could be printed on a pc?  Such as tiff or pcx.

		William Moxley
		mox@vpnet.chi.il.us
From: george@ucs.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: EQ card with Tetris
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:08:34 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

In article <2b08b6c8.2172.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn) writes:
>Unfortunately, HP went to great pains to insure that us hacker types
>cannot extract the Tetris code from the card.  (Well, at least I tried
>very, very hard, and couldn't do it).  So bootleg copies of it won't be
>floating around.  You can only get it in one place:  version B of the EQ
>card.  It's not being announced with a lot of fanfare, so that the
>version A cards will continue to sell to the uninformed.

And so, I suppose that there will be no "upgrade" available? BTW, what is
the usual practice with ROM cards wrt versions and upgrades? Do companies
view the ROM card as yet another distribution media or do they see it as
hardware (and therefore not upgradeable).

>-Joseph K. Horn-   -Peripheral Vision, Ltd.-
>akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com
>Disclaimer: I don't work for HP, EduCALC, or anybody else.

George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams)
Subject: Re: Strange Memory Loss
Originator: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:23:37 GMT

Indeed, you two aren't the only ones either... I only have 32k, and 
currently, I have 21453 bytes stored in my HP48sx (see program below).
That means there's about 11315 bytes 'missing'. I have a few user-defined
keys active, but taking them out (0 DELKEYS) doesn't change that number.
Where is 11k of my RAM going?!

-cgw-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I'm not certain what you did wrong, but if you "made" the backup
yourself, you apparently did'nt use the archive function.  In case you
don't know, all you have to do is put ':IO: filename' (without the
apostrophys) on the stack and execute archive (third page of the memory
menu.)  Archive sets all the needed settings for transfers and does
everything it needs to do (it has never failed me!).

hope this helps. 
ali

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: "paul scott" <paul.scott@canrem.com>
Subject: 3 on my screen
Reply-To: "paul scott" <paul.scott@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:20:13 EST

What has happened is that user flag 3 has been set by some program, when
any of the user flags 1 - 5 are set it "lights up" an indicator for it
in the status area, just type
3 CF [ENTER]
and it'll disappear.

TTYL...

Paul scott.
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:40:06 GMT
Subject: Re: EQ card with Tetris
Message-ID: <2b08b6c8.2172.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Rick Homard (b645jzo@utarlg.uta.edu) writes:

> I was at this new store called "Incredible Universe", and they had the
> EQ card for the HP48SX.  What was interesting about the card was that
> it included the Tetris game.  Was this why HP did not want the machine
> code of Tetris posted on the net?  I recall somebody posting this
> controversy (about 2 years ago).  Any comments?

WHOOPEE!!!  Only one year late, this must be the version B of the EQ card
that HP's been tinkering with.  I'm glad to hear that it's finally
available.  Besides fixing a few bugs, and including a GROB decompressor
that allows more graphics to be squeezed into the card, they also have a
real, actual, honest-to-goodness Spectrum Holobyte version of Tetris,
licensed from Bulletproof Software, and it's Really Good!  Some features:

- Starts with a huge map of USSR (quaint anachronism!)
- Ten levels (speeds), you can select
- 16 fill levels you can select (starts with rows pre-loaded with junk)
- Next Piece feature toggle
- End After n Rows, you can set n, or 0 for no end
- Turbo mode (makes normal 10 levels insanely faster)
- user-reassignable control keys!
- you can interrupt the game and continue later (like MINEHUNT)
- Two-Player mode (AWESOME!) in which two HP 48's play simultaneously,
  communicating via I/R or wire; each time you complete a row, your
  opponent gets penalized, and it's even better if you complete multiple 
  rows simultaneously, especially four at once.  Lots of fun!

Unfortunately, HP went to great pains to insure that us hacker types
cannot extract the Tetris code from the card.  (Well, at least I tried
very, very hard, and couldn't do it).  So bootleg copies of it won't be
floating around.  You can only get it in one place:  version B of the EQ
card.  It's not being announced with a lot of fanfare, so that the
version A cards will continue to sell to the uninformed.

-Joseph K. Horn-   -Peripheral Vision, Ltd.-
akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com
Disclaimer: I don't work for HP, EduCALC, or anybody else.
From: pwaldoch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Patrick Anthony Waldoch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Strange Memory Loss
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:52:27 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <cgw.722287417@sol> cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams) writes:
>Indeed, you two aren't the only ones either... I only have 32k, and 
>currently, I have 21453 bytes stored in my HP48sx (see program below).
>That means there's about 11315 bytes 'missing'. I have a few user-defined
>keys active, but taking them out (0 DELKEYS) doesn't change that number.
>Where is 11k of my RAM going?!
>
>-cgw-


The missing memory is accumulated over time. The HP48SX  runs just like a 
computer and the memory gets "fragmented" over time and use. The downloading/
saving of files and reloading should take care of freeing memory. (Its 
worked for others). The HP48SX probibly does not have much of a memory
management unit. (sorry for the bad spelling above) Many of you have seen this 
problem on computer harddrives, similar concept, execpt no one has a Norton
Util. for HP48SX.

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From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Re: 7 Re: EQ card with Tetris
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:09:51 CST

In article <1en5suINNbbf@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>
>Sorry  to hear you missed out on Minehunt.

Um, there isn't much to miss... :-)

From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: sending library
Message-ID: <2b111994.2246.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: how can i send a library via ir?

It is simple to send a library via IR...

First, go to the PORT that contains the library [left_shift - LIBRARY -
NXT(if necessary) - PORT0]

Next, put library on the stack by pushing the menu key that corresponds
to the library number.  For example, if you push xxxx you should get
Library xxxx: TITLE... on the stack.

Now, store that into a variable, for example, call it TEMP.

Then simply put the variable name on the stack ('TEMP') and go into the
IO directory.  Make sure you are set up for IR transfer and that bothe
calculators are set the same (binary, baud, etc.) and the hit SEND!

That's it.  I hope this helps!

Bill Levenson

P.S.  You can delete TEMP now!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: cavanaug@lees.cogsci.uiuc.edu (John Cavanaugh)
Subject: Where is the CATLIB library(I cant find it on HPCVBBS)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:19:40 GMT


Where might I find the following library.  Here is the description
line cut straight from FAQ3.  I cant seem to locate it on HPCVBBS.


FAQ3:     0765   5,145.5 EB7F CATLIB:Catalog Library        HPCVBBS


Any help would be appreciated.


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From: wet@ut-emx.uucp (Whole Earth Telescope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Backing up ROM cards
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:07:39 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In reference to my earlier message...I did not give a reply address.
Send e-mail to tkw@bullwinkle.as.utexas.edu if not replied to comp.sys.hp48

Thanks!

tkw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: cavanaug@lees.cogsci.uiuc.edu (John Cavanaugh)
Subject: HELP!!  I cant get my restore to work.......
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:05:49 GMT


Panic stricken student writes,

     While playing around with my hp48 and the <-LIB-> library I
accidentally blew away my memory.  I didnt worry though because
being a good user I backed up my memory about a week ago before
diving into the sys-rpl level.

The Problem

    When I download my backup from my computer to my hp48 it arrives
as a text string and NOT as a backup object as it should.  Im totally
confused.  When I made my backups I wasnt sure how to configure the settings
for kermit on the recv end so I made 2 different backups.  Unfortunately
it looks like neither is working.

   bkp0:    binary-mode
            translate code & checksum codes matching on both hp48 and kermit
   bkp0:    ascii-mode
            translate code & checksum codes matching on both hp48 and kermit
   
I have tried sending both of them to my hp48 but both of them arrive
as a string.

Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated.........



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mrr2ro@cs1.bradley.edu (Arturo Pinzon)
Subject: Re: Equation/library/ee cards
Organization: Bradley University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:29:43 GMT

Jason Greff (jgreff@plains.NoDak.edu) wrote:
: 
: But speaking for myself, I wish I had programmed my calculator to do the
: stuff the card does rather than spending the $90 it cost me.
: 

This is MUCH MUCH appreciated.. thank you..
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From: akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Coma mode
Message-ID: <2b0be92d.2211.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Anyone using the HP48S(X) for navigation should keep this "feature" of
COMA mode in mind.
BTW, Joe, How does one implement this COMA feature?  It is not in my
manual.  At least not in the Time, Alarms, and Date Arithmetic, not is
it listed in the Index.  
Since I use my 48 for navigation, I probably will not use it, but it
would be nice to know and I am sure others are curious as well.
Regards,
           Bill B.
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From: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams)
Subject: Re: Weirdness with going into USER-lock mode (left-shift alpha left-shift alpha)
Originator: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:27:41 GMT

In <cgw.722013944@sol> cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams) writes:
>I cannot get my HP48sx (rev E) to go into USER-lock anymore. It *used*
[and so on, and so on]

Thanks to Sam Liddicott (phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk), I have regained
my sanity.

Before I made my own user-key assignments, I noticed that RCLKEYS 
returned { S }. I thought this was wrong, because I hadn't made any
user-key assignments, so I "fixed" it by doing 'S' DELKEYS. 

I didn't notice the behavior in my earlier post until later, so I
didn't connect the two.

Aparrently, you need an 'S' in your user-key definitions to give the
user-keyboard keys their default functions when in 1USR/USER mode.
Because I had -61 clear ("USR twice to lock"), the second time
I hit "left alpha" was actually "left user-alpha", because the 
second time, the keyboard was already in 1USR mode (because the 'S'
was missing from my user-keys definition).

In summary, if you define your own user-keys, and still want 
to be able to go into USER-lock, make sure you leave an 'S' in
the keys definition.

-cgw-

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