From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: Rich & Michael
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:51:28 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <1992Aug10.080510.4115@rtf.bt.co.uk>, traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:
> In article <1992Aug9.142612.4366@bb1t.monsanto.com> tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
>>Don't be ridiculous, many people contribute recipes.  Of course if you don't
>>care to show others your "Way to salvation" stop complaining about them.
> 
> Ah, here we have a prime example. A meat eater who has ***never ever****
> contributed a recipe, a meat eater who just sucks in those recipes
> he feels are of use to his collection, a meat eater who himself
> often attempts to ridicule the vegetarian/vegan members of this
> newsgroup, a meat eater who has shown many times in the past that he
> has no interest in vegetarianism other than snarfing recipes.

Ok, one at a time:

1)  I *HAVE* contributed recipies althought they were Lacto ones, I 
    believe that many people on this newsgroup find that acceptable.
    I also post to give cooking advice.

2)  I Don't ridicule vegetarians.  What you call ridicule is my 
    disagrement with you when you are wrong.

3)  I *HAVE* an interest and have even dated a couple of vegetarians.  
    I cooked for them and for vegetarian friends many times.  When I 
    have a dinner party and a vetgetarin or vegan will be there I 
    always have something special for them.   


>>Ah, this comming from the self professed kind and gentle Michael Traub...  
>>And calling people parasites too.  Me thinks that you have invented more
>>lines to cross and been more judgemental that *ANY* other poster on this
>>newsgroup in it's history.  Could you be what you hate most in others?

> A parasite is an absolutely **perfect** word to represent your type.
> I am not being unkind, just accurate.

What type is that Michael.  Have you seen my posts on the medical 
newsgroups lately?  How about on rec.food.cooking.  How about on
rec.scuba?  I participate in many discussions on many newsgroups 
and provide info on many subjects.  My recent post might be of interest
to you.  I'm trying to get parts and supplies for a medical instrument
that I intend to refurbish and donate to a Central American hospital
(at my own cost where I can't get help donated) and I'd take help even 
from you if I could get it.  Yeah, I guess that I am a parasite. 

>>I could care less about your petty squables.
> 
> Sure, that's why you've started several yourself.

Yeah, when.
>>I'd like to know more about
>>Vegetarianism and it's variations (isn't that what this newsgroup is all
>>about?) and hear less self serving, petty holier than thou drivel.
> 
> Why lie? It's pretty obvious that you are not interested in vegetarianism.
> You have been sucking recipes off this newsgroup for over two years but
> you are still an eater of animal corpses.

More name calling, Michael?

>>If 
>>there is anyone out there who would care to continue to enlighten me, 
>>I'll keep reading this newsgroup.  If not, then all of you deserve the
>>abuse that you constantly claim to suffer and your way of life has
>>nothing of benefit to offer.
> 
> The vegetarians/vegans in this newsgroup are not here to try and
> educate close minded people like yourself. If you really insist
> on snarfing recipes then go ahead, but try and keep your obvious
> dislike of vegetarians and vegans out of this newsgroup.

You make up these things to try to discredit anyone who disagrees
with you.  *ESPECIALLY* when you are wrong and can't back up a
claim.  Very intelectually dishonest, IMO.  You simply make up
things to say about people you don't even know.  Try and keep your
biggoted and paranoid delusions out of this newsgroup.  That is my
last word on the matter.  If you care to continue this discussion,
I'll let you have the last word since you will continue to waste
bandwidth until you do (as usual).  Then take it to email.  If
anyone is interested in this further (I doubt it) I'm sure that
Michael would be willing to send you a synopsis.  

  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 
  Lake St. Louis, MO        (314) 537-6603       tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
  Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed herein are MY OWN and obviously not
  the opinions of Trilogy, Monsanto or either of my two ex-wives.