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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: How to Be a Superhero!
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:10:54 GMT


In a previous article, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) says:

>Wal, nay RUN down to your bookstore and look for "How to Be a
>Superhero" in the humor section.
>
>By Mark Leigh and Mike Lepine, illustrated by Steve Dillon (2000AD,
>Animal Man, etc.), this is a totally hilarious skewering of every
>superhero cliche around.  It's written (as the title implies) as a
>manual on becoming and being a superhero.  Some of the best stuff I've
>seen in years.
>
>From the first few pages:
>
>"Er, what was that you mentioned earlier about becoming a rampaging
>swamp beast by accident!  How can I avoid this?
>
>"That's simple!  When you're attempting to become a superhero, don't
>do it in a swamp!  For that matter, don't even get to close to a
>compost heap, a bag of mulch, Cleveland Ohio, or a Turkish resturaunt
>when you make your bid for powers!


Hmmm... should I be offended by this?

	- Dean V.
	  Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Applied Physics
	  Case Western Reserve University
	  **CLEVELAND, OH** 44106

>Ms. Low Sperm Count

Huh?

>I'm on a low-fat, high stress diet... coffee and fingernails.

My doctor told me to get more caffeine in my diet.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC: Wonder Woman #66
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <21JUL199215133142@rigel.tamu.edu>
  From: a0v6282@rigel.tamu.edu (Art Velasquez)


>      jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew) writes...
>>Dani Zweig (dani@netcom.com) writes:

>Wonder Woman is now Lost in Space, with no idea of where Earth is or how to
>get home.  Right.

Hey, "space is big.  Incredibly big," and so forth.  (Not that I disagree with
you; Wonder Woman has been on the ropes around my collection ever since Perez
decided to tag out in favor of Messner-Loebs.  The one-two punch of those
Deathstroke issues nearly did her in, and now Jill Thompson has tagged out to
let Paris Cullins play for a while.  I'm afraid Diana's down for the count
around these parts.)


>      *sigh*  Does this mean Jill Thompson's not coming back?  :-(
>      Maybe I could have lived with the "action-oreined" Diana with Bill
> Messner-Loebs.  But Thompson, IMHO, managed to keep her promise (made in
> _Amazing Heroes_) to render "a six-foot woman, not a six-foot model," and
> that made Diana much more interesting to me.  Cullins's artwork (ha!)
> has reduced Diana to a six-foot model again, I'm afraid.
>      I don't know that Diana's out for the count.  But the referee is
> counting.   Two... three... .


Out for me to.  Paris Cullin's work as ruined a number of series
for me and while Messner-Loebs did nice work in Flash this is
not up to standards.  I rarely bought Wonder Woman pre-Perez
and it looks like I am going to stop buying it now.

It seems a shame that George Perez went to all that work
to revitalize Wonder Woman and shortly after he leaves they have
a terrible Deathstroke crossover (another title I am dropping due
to the Team Titans) and follow it with Paris Cullin, whose art
tends to signal the end of a book.

Sigh :(  DC isn't what it used to be.

-- 
Glenn Host          | Moving soon; watch this space for new address!
12307 Tigers Eye Ct |
Reston, VA 22091    |
(703) 620-1141      | I will public post abusive email! Be warned!
From: dp0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (David M. Pahnos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:39:52 GMT
	<1992Jul27.061031.27763@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>>of course I always wondered even as a little kid how could kryptonite
give him
>>new powers if Krypton never blew up.  Where did the Krytonite come from?????
> 
>It's a substance.  Blowing up Krypton makes it, yes, but that's not the only
>way to get it.  Presumably it can come from the same place gold or sodium or
>silicon come from....
--


But it has been shown that even something as close as the moon has
mineral substances that earth doesn't:  we don't have everything
possible under the sun.  Krypton has a native mineral-like substance we
don't (or don't know what it is).


michael j pastor iii
guest on davids account
From: arcarese@andromeda.rutgers.edu (John C Arcarese)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: The death of Superman
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:42:13 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I went to pick up my comics this week, and the person at the store showed 
me a preview that states that Superman will be killed off in issue #75 of
"Superman", after a month long buildup.  Any guesses at how long this
will last, or how they'll bring him back...


-john
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From: antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes)
Subject: Flash vs Superman (was Re: <mumble>)
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Penn State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:51:58 GMT

Hello.

  Well, someone brought up the "Buried Alien" appearance in the Quasar
road race as homage to the Flash being the fastest, and also the issue
of all the Superman Vs Flash races has been mentioned in another post.

It is true that Superman either tied or won far too many of these races.
However, given the hints in Flash recently (recently = months ago, I'm
a bit behind), it seems Jay Garrick and Wally West both ran faster when
with Barry, and Barry himself was a self-fulfilling origin (i.e. he was
the lightning bolt that made him, from Crisis).

So, clearly, the only reason Superman won some of the races was because he
was racing the Flash, and the Flash automatically made him faster.  Perhaps
it's subconscious, "Gee, he's Superman, he's probably as fast as me!", or
perhaps it's just a proximity effect, but it can be explained as the same
effect that boosted Wally and Jay.

There, that was easy.

sandy
alex@astro.isas.ac.jp
que sera c'est la vie
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From: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO)
Subject: Superman DIES ???????????
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:00:21 GMT


I've seen at least 2 articles saying that Superman is going to die.

Is this really possible? Probably DC will resurrect him before you know
it...


May thy fortunes go with thee.

Darren				 dyko@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au 
***************************************************************************
"                         |                                               "
"      I  The Holy        |    "Behind every error which is blamed on     "
"   :==H============>	  |     the computer, there are at least two      "
"      I  Excalibur       |     human errors, one of which is the error   "
"                         |     blaming the computer."     Gibb's Law     "
"                         |                                               "
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DISCLAIMER : Huh? Who wrote this?

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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Lobo's Back #3
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:34:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.154603.1920@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>>False false false false false.
>>
>>Lobo's Back #3 has been delayed, however, by Bisley's slowness, and will ship
>>one month later than previously announced, as has #4.
>
>As much as I'd like to believe this, I would like to know your source.
>However unreliable it may be, I at least said where I got my information
>from (of course, she also told me that Superman was going to die, so I'm
>not too sure how much I can believe her on comics matters, but...)

Capital City releases lists of delayed books, often with new release dates.
Lobo's Back #3 is one of those books.  Look for it in two or three weeks (I
can't remember which).

Oh, yeah, and Superman is definitely going to die.  DC's got a big promo
push set up for that, with staffers at cons wearing black armbands and
shit like that.  Should be interesting.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
-------
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From: dfmaki@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Dean Maki)
Subject: Re: DC Comics
Keywords: DC, history
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:29:35 GMT

In article <14otvrINN2bv@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> MIKET@brownvm.brown.edu (Michael Thompson) writes:

>DC stands for Detective Comics.  The company used to be National Periodicals,
>but somewhere along the line (I think in the 50's) they simply became DC.  I
>don't know why, maybe some other DC historian can help out.
>

DC was National Periodical Publications until the last 60's or early 70's.  The company was more widely known as DC however because of its "DC Bullet" in the   upper left hand corner of each comic it published.  People were so used to 
calling National Periodical DC that eventually they officially changed the name.

FYI the first DC Bullet was a circle with "ACTION" above DC and "ADVENTURE" 
below, in recognition of National Periodical's oldest and most successfull 
titles.  Anyone remembering the Earth-2 Joni DC can see this...........

 /\/\  /\  |/  "You can put it in the hands of your attorney,
/    \/--\ |\       But it will never stand up in court"   - Monty Python
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:39:32 GMT

Jo Nah isn't Colossal Boy.  He was Ultra Boy.  Do you mean Jo, or Gim (Colossal
Boy)?
     Brightsword I believe is the name of the Young God in Marvel.  He has the 
strength of twenty men and an energy sword/shield (or is it a net?)
     Let us not forget Sabra!  Marvel's first Israeli superhero, introed in 
Contest of Champions, and recently seen in Hulk.
     Magnus is Jewish, and he and his family were murdered at a death camp.  
Magneto's powers had surfaced that morning, so he could deflect the bullets 
aimed at min, but not his family.  The strain of deflecting the bullets knocked
him out and he awoke buried in a mass grave.  It's a wonder he's still sane, to
quote the Sherriff of Nottingham.
     Legion, son of Charles Xavier and Gabriel Haller, is Israeli on his 
mother's side (she's also in the Israeli gov't now), but is now dead.
     Dave Van Domelen, neither Jewish not a superhero
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Suicide Squid (was Re: <None>)
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:23:08 GMT

Glenn Carnagey, Jr. (lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu), writes:

>Shade is only loosely based on Ditko's stories and Suicide Squid is ignored

Hey, you ignore the Main Mollusk at your peril!

>(and will get them in the end :*).  His origin retains some of Ditko's
>elements, but how and why he got to earth is radically different.

IMHO, the *best* Squid stories were done by Ditko.  They're the ones I grew
up on.  Looking back, you'd be amazed at just how much of the current "look"
of Suicide Squid is due directly to Ditko.

------------------------------
                             |    "Ron!" I said.  "What are you doing here?"
Jim Drew                     |    "This is the afterlife, Marc," he said.
jrd@frame.com                | "I'm dead, remember?  I'm just waiting for Val
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | to show up, and catching some great music in
"Innocent, but not naive."   | the meantime.  Peter, Paul, and Patsy are
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    | next."  He pointed out a concert poster.
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |      "Bill Graham productions presents... Peter
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | Tschaikovsky and Paul McCartney, with special
			     | guest Patsy Cline!"
			     |		- Marc Lynx, "A Conventional Death"
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:20885 rec.arts.comics.misc:347
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:29:06 GMT
	<1992Jul21.215117.6841@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
	<1992Jul21.195921.2328@nic.csu.net> <l6prmgINNh5e@pollux.usc.edu>
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: akhale@pollux.usc.edu's message of 22 Jul 92 05:14:56 GMT

Actually, as someone at DC put it, everyone does remeber the Crisis
and the multiverse--they just don't like to talk about it.

What makes the most sense of course, is that time is non-linear (which
makes sense in the DC universe.  Remember, when a universe is
destroyed, it is destroyed at all times).  Therefore, the "changing
waves" come in cycles (also indicated to be the case in a pre-Crisis
JLA/JSA teamup):  first the multiverse became the universe and heroes
remembered, second the heroes were forced to forget and internal
inconsistences were forced to be consistent.  

The latter, we can argue, is an ongoing process.  Each paradox
generates some kind of universal pressure.  Once the paradox becomes a
signifcant pressure the universe realigns its history to fix it,
causing another history change.

Unfortunately, this is much like programming:  removing one bug
invariably introduces another.  We can only hope that the number of
time "bugs" is slowly being reduced by each fix (or rather that the
time bugs are becoming so insignificant that they exert no "pressure"
on the universe) such that it will reach some stable point.

But the only thing I'm really interested in is what happended in the
Post Crisis crisis.  How many heroes really died on that one, other
than Barry Allen?

--
Peace.
           "Love is like a snowmobile rushing across the tundra and then
            suddenly it flips over pinning you underneath.  At night, 
            the Ice Weasels come."
                                    -Matt Groening, "Love is Hell"
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
From: goerz@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas R Goerz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: JSA#1:BUY IT-spoilers
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:46:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I read it agin last night.  The JSA had one their original costumes on during
the 'welcom back' party.  I assume they change before they go back into action.
(Not comics) :-) 
>
>>>  1) Where were Dr. Fate(s), PowerGirl, SSK, Jade, etc ??  I think they may
>>>     be happy to see the JSA??  I mean you can't instantly fill up a stadium
>>>     with people.  Why was Clark the only one to make it????  YuK!
>
>I agree that Dr. Fate is sorely missing.  I suspect that he is tied up with
>some sort of revival ( as was mentioned in his last issue)  Powergirl, after
>all her post-Crisis retconning, I would not like to like to see in this series.
>Unless they retcon the retcons.   You're right, Infinity Inc was sorely missing.
>But heh, it is the JSA's book after all.
Agreed, but Kara was JSA!!!  I believe she still remembers the Golden Age 
Superman, too.  She did in her Secret Origins spot and mentioned being a copy
of Superman last month in JLE!!!  Where does that leave the rest of the JSA ? 

This multiple wave theory would clear most of this up with the JSA forgetting
their teammates when they were in Ragnarok or whatever.  in The Last Days of
the JS, they mentioned Robin, Huntress, Supes, etc.  Maybe the wave gottem
(Catch the Wave??) there, but what about PG's silly statement then ??  I liked
her back then too, not now.
>

>As Tom said earlier, this series has promise.  Let's see what they do with it.
>
Agreed.  I'll buy it, but I just hope that it isn't brought down by  potential
problems.  It's not like DC has been great with this stuff (LSH & Hawkworld).
Oh by the way, what's the current deal with Hawkman JR or whatever ?

Chad
 a guest on Tom's account!!!
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From: ray@gyro.exicom.oz.au (Ray Soo)
Subject: Circulation figures for comics wanted
Reply-To: ray@exicom.OZ.AU (ray)
Organization: Exicom (Aust) Pty Ltd
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:00:44 GMT

I'm interested to know if there is any easy source of info which
contains circulation statistics for comics.

In particular, i'd like to know which
(a) regular (monthly) titles from each of the major publishers
(b) special editions / limited series from each of the major publishers
(c) trade paperback editions
have the highest circulation (US, UK, world - anything)

I can summarise and repost if i get enough info



email replies to ray@exicom.OZ.AU

thanks in advance,

ray
From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Give Galactus "HIS" due
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:58:01 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <IeRzgcO00W01I19Gp1@andrew.cmu.edu> Harith Jameel Alkhafiz <ha09+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>characters who are severely out of character lately:
>Galactus (too petty)
>Silver Surfer (not "cosmic" enough)
>Dr. Doom (too petty)
>
>any others?
>
Sure.
Magneto (Dead)  Ch'ya!  Right!  As if...
After his trial in UXmen 200, he degenerated so horribly, I was actually 
glad to see him go.  In the Savage Land, he was cool, but once again,
degenerated.

-- 
Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Everything But Love tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Oh God, does this mean we have to fight?"
			-Selina Kyle, _Batman_
From: chrisb@starhawk.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Namor the Sub-Mariner
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:12:06 GMT
Reply-To: chrisb@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Coporation - SPS Division.


A quick question for all those Namor fans out there ....
   Why is it that when Marvel can't find anything good for Namor to get into
   they make him lose his mind ????
I think this is the third time in two series that the prince of the seas
has had amnesia !!! It's getting real tiresome too, for me to read
about him not knowing his full abilities, why he can breath underwater and
lashes out at everyone who is trying to help him, yet he can't remember !!!

                           Christopher Bryant       
                     chrisb@oakhill.sps.mot.com
                
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From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr)
Subject: Re: Oh, COME OFF IT! Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWA
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:57:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.041834.27094@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>In article <62958@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>...the acting was fairly
>>up to par and, in Basinger's case, way above par...
>
>Really?!  What I'd heard from everyone I know who's seen it is that her 
>acting is much better as a cel than in the flesh...

Without a doubt.  Her voiceover is great, she does a good job of emulating
the animation, but several times she slips into her normal drawl during
the live action, which is very annoying.  I liked it for it was, which
is Just Another Bakshi Flick, but I obviously had lower expectations
than everyone else.   And I'm a Thrill Kill Cult fan, the dance animation
was magic.

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
......................................................................
"This is gonna be the biggest shitstorm the Cool World has ever seen!"
   --- Cool World
g-carnagey@uchicago.edu, if you must know
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From: "J3SF000 (The Marshalls)" <J3SF@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Good Comics
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:01:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.190235.20425@uwm.edu> buzzsaw@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Elias Campbell) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.222820.20467@rice.edu> yuantsai@owlnet.rice.edu (Frank Tsai-Yuan Chen) writes:
>>I have just take up collecting comic books. So far I like
>>the ones produced by Image like Spawn and Savage Dragon.
>>I was wondering if anyone can suggest to me other comics that
>>they find interesting. I am mostly interested in the newer
>>comics with issues less than #10. Any help would be
>>appreciated.
>>
>Ya better watch it son, them's fighting words around here! As any good
>comics snob knows, you need at least fifty issues of any comic just to get
>a semi-coherent storyline, and it all has too look like something that
>looks like a cheap rip-off of Frank Crumb!!
>
You wouldn't be referring to Robert Crumb, would you?

Speaking as a good comics snob, here are my recommendations:  HATE,
EIGHTBALL, XENOZOIC TALES, anything by Eisner, SANDMAN (barely),
CONCRETE, ZOT!, CEREBUS, LOVE & ROCKETS, TALES OF THE BEANWORLD
and other truly _worthwhile_ comics.  Only CEREBUS and L&R could be
even remotely accused of taking a long time to complete a storyline,
and only HATE could be remotely accused of "swiping" from R. Crumb
(not so much visually as for the type of story involved).  AMERICAN
SPLENDOR is great too.

Scott Marshall
On Commission
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: REALITY GEM, REALITY GEM.  Who's got the REALITY GEM?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:24:24 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

> WHO's GOT THE REALITY GEM?  Could it be:
> THANOS (seems to be the most obvious, but for that very reason he could just
> WATCHER ( a major possibility IMHO.  He is involved in alternate realities,
> HER  (on a power scale she is definitely a contender with Warlock.  She is
> KOSMIC  (As a Cosmic Cube entity she definitely has the power to manipulate
> COLLECTOR (now this is a scarey thought.  Why would Warlock do that?  When did
> BEYONDER  (He's definitely still around, but why I haven't the slightest
> TATTLETALE (Franklin Richards.  Hmmmmm.  That's interesting.  And he is going
> HIGH EVOLUTIONARY  (Why can't he be the possessor?  Just because he's gone
> CAPTAIN ULTRA, 
> FORBUSH MAN, 
> AUNT MAY (I hope you guys aren't serious :)
> ORIGINAL THOR (I can't imagine why)
> MOLECULE-MAN  (ditto)
> now for some of my choices:
> AUTOLYCUS (he was/is a close companion of Warlock's.  He's currently missing
> NEBULA  (another character suffering from mental shutdown.  She's suspicious
> AQAURIAN  (definitely a benevolent character....but I forget where he is these
> ORIGINAL CAPTAIN MARVEL (this would be as lame an excuse as Marvel would need
> RICK JONES  (i don't know why...just seemed like a good guess).
> CAPTAIN UNIVERSE (current holder of that power.  Seemed like another good
> IMMORTUS  (I hope not)
> ENCLAVE (the scientists of the BEEHIVE and creators of HIM & HER.  I think they
> Whaddaya think?

	You forgot me.
	Frankly I find it rather shocking that there is such a general 
consensus on who has it.  If I were Marvel I'd be REEEAAALLY threatened 
by all the leaks and people giving away their secrets!  What a SPOILER?!
"Button, Button who's got the Button?!"  
					wReam...

P.S.  I'm still betting on Aunt May, Willy Pimpkin, or Jarvis! :)