From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: Re: CHAPTER 3...
Summary: chill out!!! 
Organization: none 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 05:30:42 GMT

	How amazing! The self-proclaimed protectors in a.s.a.r have 
come out of their ivory towers to attack the evil dragon Jeff and
rescue anyone they deem in need of rescue...

	<retch>

	Will you people please get a grip on yourselves? 

	This group is not a closed therapy session... it is a newsgroup
with a world-wide distribution.  Not everyone has to agree with your
ideas and values.  If you start threads with topics that are about
suicide and self-mutilation, you should expect that people will post
follow-ups to what you say.  If you want your group to be so exclusive,
I suggest sticking to email or mailing lists.

	I'm completely dumbfounded how some of you can say how much
you don't want others to control your life, but you're more than willing
to jump in and try to control someone else's life.  Yeah, yeah, you all
say "He was going to hurt himself. It's our responsibility/right to
step in."  No, it isn't.  There are other newsgroups for discussion
of suicide (if someone wants to talk about it on the net)... when you
start discussing it here, you have to expect others will respond with
their own opinions.

	Did it ever occur to you that telling someone what they
_shouldn't_ do will sometimes coax them to do it (esp. for someone who
can't help but to remember all the things others told them they
_shouldn't_ do... like tell anyone what was happening)???  Listen and
talk, don't demand.  It's not your life so quit trying to live it.
The last thing some of you need is another person telling you
what you _shouldn't_ do.

	And just how do you people know that Jeff wasn't being
sarcastic?  Since the written word can be interpreted in many ways, I'm
sure Jeff could get a laywer to show that he was being sarcastic to
show the person considering suicide that they were not thinking rationally.
(Innocent until proven guilty, remember?)  With posts like Kibo's
floating around as illustrations, I'm sure Jeff would not be convicted
of anything.

	Some of you seem to be proving an old saying true, "The
road to Hell is paved with good intentions."  How nice of you all to
pass judgement on him so quickly without even knowing about any
mail he may have send around the time of his post.  It's nice that
some of you are willing to be there to support others who post and/or
read here, but you are not every ASARers guardian.  If you don't
like someone, either skip their posts or use a killfile.  Having some
of you deputizing yourselfs as net-police gets very tiring after a while.

	If you don't like these sorts of interuptions (like the flame
wars and namecalling) then simply don't respond to them.  No one
forces you to read every single article. I'm bewildered by the
hypocrisy of these self-appointed ASAR net-police... first you say you
don't like flame wars or disruptions in a.s.a.r. and then you 
purposely continue them!  Make up your minds and be consistant (if
nothing else)...

	If you want to discuss suicide (seriously) try alt.suicide.holiday.
At least we'll try to make sure you're making an informed choice... and
we won't do the chosing for you (well, some of us might try).

	Anyway, there are better methods than Bullets and razors...


	(Oh, I happen to be in my own killfile so I won't be seeing
	any responses to this...  if you don't like me, then I
	can only suggest you do the same.)

 

	 
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