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From: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: Nothing in Particular
Date: 30 Sep 1992 00:47:17 GMT
Organization: Vampire Research Group at Berkeley :)
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In article <1992Sep27.185432.18570@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
>In article <92271.011757CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu> <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> Thing is, we don't particularly want to kill ourselves. WE WANT TO KILL YOU.
>>ALL OF YOU. AND ANYTHING THAT MIGHT EVOLVE SO THAT IT RESEMBLES YOU. Death for
>>us is meerly a necessary side effect, one that we're willing to accept.
>Say, anyone know any specific phytoplankton toxins, suffocation is a 
>partic
>fairly unspectacular way to snuff it, but easily acchievable... If we could
>find a way to get plutonium to float... Say isn't there a tanker-full of it
>on its way to Japan? Hmmmm....
>ye servante of ye greate olde ones...
>-Scott
   Toxins, plutonium, etc. aren't needed. We just want a virus which kills
phytoplankton and can be distributed in the currents. Now that I think about
it, Discover magazine had a piece a few years back on increasing the number
of phytoplankton to combat greenhouse warming - I don't remember the details,
but no doubt it would give us hints. Further, if we want to start an ice age,
we could just use this procedure and pump it up a bit.
   Mind, killing off phytoplankton is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Anaerobic life-forms,
like the deep-sea vent bacteria and archaebacteria, would survive. And
that means there is something "that might evolve so that [sic] it resembles
you." A step in the right direction, though.
	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
	In Real Life: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu
	larval physicist
	VP, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu (Berkeley) for which I DO speak
THE STARS ARE RIGHT: CTHULHU IN '92! DON'T SETTLE FOR THE LESSER EVIL!
-- 
"Some savages are persuaded by the 'natural light' that it is their duty to
 eat people, and even Voltaire's savages, who are led by the voice of reason
 to hold that one should only eat Jesuits, are not wholly satisfactory."
-Bertrand Russell on Rousseau in _A History of Western Philosophy_, p. 694
From: re0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ronald William Ely)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: The End
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:08:35 GMT
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>2. The easiest way must be to create some sort of biological weaponthat 
> could wipe out all life on earth. This virus (or something like that) 
> must be able to multiply in an enormous rate, and it must whitstand any 
> temperature. (My suggestion is that its allready invented ?)
	If you want to destroy ALL life, not bloody likely... there are just too
many kinds of organisms in the world so some of them would be immune.
But if you were lucky you could destroy all humans.... maybe with an
airborn version of the AIDS virus.
	My personal choice would be a virus which would STERILIZE
everyone on the planet.  Granted it would take about a hundred years for
humanity to glide off into oblivion, unless when people found ouyt that they
didn't have to worry about birth control anymore they let loose all restraints
and get wiped out by sexually transmitted diseases:-)

Keep a good thought.
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Blow up the Moon/ Moving planets
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:02:13 GMT
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The kinds of energies needed to accomplish something like this would be much
better spent on the biosphere of this planet.

Now, if we could find an icarus asteroid with a funny orbit that comes close
to ours, this would be possible; a small perturbation in its orbit may just
be enough to point it our way. I believe something like this came within a few
million miles a few years ago; unfortunately, astronomers noticed it too late
to push it our way (our out of our way for that matter).

ye servante of ye great olde ones...
-Scott

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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: New Methods
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:17:57 GMT
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Er- to the reporter on the hideous plane of Leng; Eco-Hobbit is Mine...
<modest bow>

Suggestions; lets up the funding of that guy at Harvard who's working on
making mass-quantities of Anti-Matter. Remember; E=mc^2; and c=3*10^8 ;)

Y'Know, the earth's crust ain't all that thick, compared to, say, the
distance from Boston to N.Y.
I wonder if we could poke a hole in it with many H-Bomb blasts... Presumably
it would then tear itself apart through tidal & centrifugal forces...

Nickola Tesla (inventor of the A.C. current system & many other electrical
innovations) had some rather spectacular Ideas along this line. He thought
that an explosion set off at certain times, in one spot, or at nodal points,
on various parts of the globe, repeated at a certain frequency, would
resonate the earth enough to shatter its crust. I seem to remember a calculation
done in his time, assuming 1 ton of dynamyte blasts. The eventual destruction
would take place after a few decades. With modern devices, we may be able
to cut this down significantly. What a pretty picture, the earth's crust
shattered _exactly_ like a wine-glass from the high-note of an opera singer!

Another nifty idea of Tesla's was to put big aluminized baloons into the
stratosphere & send beva-Volts through them, lighting the gasses of the
sky like a big neon-lamp! There must be _something_ ecologically nasty
about this (although it _would_ replenish the ozone layer... Maybee we
could get it to make too much ozone, poisoning the atmosphere. Aw ozone is
too unstable...).
He also had an idea of resonating the whole planet with electricity, so anyone
could put up a small antenna & get all the power he needed; Imagine
what the nodes of this oscillation would be like! Huge lightning bolts raining
from the sky. With a sight adjustment of the phase angle you could move
the lightning-storm around! 
ANd to supply th power for this great-big tesla-coil gizmo we could build some
_huge_ fast-breeder reactors! What a great idea! We can get all the peace-
loving socialist eco-toads to agree with it by the following proposition;
We can use all the newly dismantled nukes' plutonium to power the contraption,
which would supply electricity _free_ to all the remote, impovrished lands,
thus removing any incentive to build big polluting power-plants & dams...

I still say the instaton is a good idea...

ye servante of ye greate olde ones....

-Scott
From: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Strange matter (was Re: Tilt the Earth)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:15:48 GMT
Organization: Vampire Research Group at Berkeley :)
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In article <1992Oct4.220450.1@opie.bgsu.edu> bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>[repentence for his nuke-the-moon-out-of-orbit scheme accepted and deleted]
>
>I would really be quite happy with destroying the entire human race, but I
>would be much happier if we could obliterate the entire planet.  As for wiping
>out humanity, I think that you guys have come up with some pretty good ideas,
>but as far as I can tell, everything you suggest is going to leave the
>possibility of some shards of life hanging on.  The only sure (As far as I can
>tell) solution is to somehow get the earth out of its orbit around the sun. I
>would love to hear anybody elses comments on how to accomplish this, or an
>alternative way to obliterate _all_ life.
>--Joshua

   Well, consider this one: Iron-57 is the most stable nucleus, but it is
not (appearantly) the most stable possible configuration for quarks. That is
"strange matter." This is a bit like neutronium, which we all know and love,
but it's a "soup" of u, d and s quarks. It has the least potential energy of
any arragnement of quarks, and will "eat" neutrons, giving off gamma rays in
the process. (It may eat protons as well; it's been a while since I read up
on it). So: make some and drop it into the ground. Then be patient while we
get irradiated. (References/clarification available upon request. Frederik
Pohl used strange matter as an energy source in his novel _Homegoing_, but
it's quite legit.)

>+++ Wasn't Bertrand Russell a pacifist? +++
   No. He thought war was a bad idea, and he thought World War I a
sufficently bad idea to protest it (he was jailed for sedition), but he felt
the alternative to WWII (i.e., rule of the planet by either Hitler or
Stalin) so much worse than the war that he supported it.

	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
	In Real Life: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu
	larval physicist & long-time Bertrand Russell fan

-- 
"Apart from hydrogen, the most common thing in the universe is stupidity."
-Harlan Ellison, _An Edge in My Voice_
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From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: Doing it right the first time
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:19:10 GMT

In article <1ae0jpINNmv5@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>
>
>Personally, the key to destroying all the life on Earth is really quite simple.
>What is the one thing that all life forms have in common? (No, not DNA) 
>WATER.
>No need to get technical with all that genetic engineering and such.  Kurt
>Vonnegut managed to waste the whole planet with a single flake of Ice-9.  Get
>rid of water, and it's all over.
>Of course, there's always shifting the planet's orbit just a tad or two closer
>so that radiation and increased temperature could no longer support life, but
>that's still technologically a ways off.
>

Why not use microwaves to vibrate the water molecules and cook every living
thing?  How to do this is a bit beyond my comprehension but couldn't a radio
tower be hijaked and refitted to perform the task?

As for shifting the planet's orbit, I've said before that we must drill 
holes to the centre of the Earth and bring all that heavy metal to the 
surface.  I'm sure that doing so will cause an imbalance of some sort.

C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca

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From: fredg@ariel.yorku.ca (Fredrick Gonsalves)
Subject: Re: Nothing in Particular
Originator: fredg@t01.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:28:16 GMT


Yea Just like YOU!!!!!

FredG
YorkU, Canada
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From: news@ugle.unit.no (NetNews Administrator)
Subject: Re: Nothing in particular
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:39:42 GMT



 In article <1992Sep27.185432.18570@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
 > In article <92271.011757CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu> <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
 > >Erg, isn't this the third time this exact post has shown up here?
 > 
 > reminds me of christian posts to alt.satanism... Eco-hobbit posts to this
 > newsgroup.... What a vile form of life they are; yet another reason to
 > BLOW THIS MUTHA UP!!!!
 > 
 > >
 > > Thing is, we don't particularly want to kill ourselves. WE WANT TO KILL YOU.
 > >ALL OF YOU. AND ANYTHING THAT MIGHT EVOLVE SO THAT IT RESEMBLES YOU. Death for
 > >us is meerly a necessary side effect, one that we're willing to accept.
 > >
 > >DEATH TO MOTHER EARTH! Pave the sucker over!
 > >
 > Say, anyone know any specific phytoplankton toxins, suffocation is a 
 > partic
 > fairly unspectacular way to snuff it, but easily acchievable... If we could
 > find a way to get plutonium to float... Say isn't there a tanker-full of it
 > on its way to Japan? Hmmmm....
 > 
 > ye servante of ye greate olde ones...
 > 
 > -Scott


Plutonium will float if you dissolve it, in something Idon't know. It will then
be about 1000 times as toxic as HCN (cyanide)
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: The End
Summary: Nuke problems
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:00:28 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Re: the idea of a bunch of nuclear explosions creating a
"vulcano" (sic) and then flooding it with seawater to
cool down the "mantel" (sic).

No.  No.  No.  No.  No.  First of all, the nuclear explosions
would NOT create a volcano of any sort.  The most we could
hope for would be a fissure of some kind, and only that
if we dropped them right on a fault line.  The reason nuclear
devices are set to go off in the air (I think I read this in
_The Making of the Atomic Bomb_) is that if detonated on the ground,
the explosion directs a great deal of force UPwards, which is therefore
lost.  However, the idea is not completely withouty
merit.  Ground level-detonations would be appropriate for
"dirty" weapons designed to spread radioactive material over
a wide radius- the more upwards force the better.

Secondly, you couldn't cool down the mantle if you had a few
thousand Pacific Oceans at your disposal.  On the other hand,
if such a thing could be done, it would wreak havoc with
continental drift and quite possibly the stability of the
planet as a whole (see previous post on chaos theory).

However, I am intrigued by the thought that a biological
weapon powerful and adaptable enough to destroy all life
on earth might _already exist_.  I say we pick one up
at the military surplus stores when (if) the budget cuts
come through.  Any CIA people spying on this group?

	Jason
	Our Reporter on the Hideous Plane of Leng
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: Nothing in Particular
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:52:39 GMT
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In article <1aatelINN85c@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi) writes:

>   Toxins, plutonium, etc. aren't needed. We just want a virus which kills
>phytoplankton and can be distributed in the currents. Now that I think about

Ahh, but poisons are easier to actually _make_. Genetic engineering is somewhat
in its infancy right now, Chemistry is not... I'll have to post to some sci
groups...

>   Mind, killing off phytoplankton is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Anaerobic life-forms,
>like the deep-sea vent bacteria and archaebacteria, would survive. And

Agreed, but a good start...

yrs under the elder sign...
-Scott


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From: cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CUFFELL TIMOTHY MICH)
Subject: Re: Doing it right the first time
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:35:40 GMT

In article <1ae0jpINNmv5@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>
>
>Personally, the key to destroying all the life on Earth is really quite simple.
>What is the one thing that all life forms have in common? (No, not DNA) 
>WATER.

Not true.  There exist life forms based entirely off of H2S.  They're at the
microbe level right now, but would surely evolve if it weren't for competition
with H2O base life forms.

Try again.

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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: Doing it right the first time
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:33:39 GMT
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In article <1992Oct3.011910.17779@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes:

>
>Why not use microwaves to vibrate the water molecules and cook every living
>thing?  How to do this is a bit beyond my comprehension but couldn't a radio
>tower be hijaked and refitted to perform the task?

Need too much power, unless you want to build a directed energy weapon, which
might be nice...

>
>As for shifting the planet's orbit, I've said before that we must drill 
>holes to the centre of the Earth and bring all that heavy metal to the 
>surface.  I'm sure that doing so will cause an imbalance of some sort.

Drilling holes in the fragile crust has always been a favorite method of
mine. I fail to see how it would shift the orbit though.
There was a project in the 1960's funded bythe govt to drill a hole through
the earths crust before the soviets did, presumably for geothermal energy
supply. Project Mole or something. It was stopped through the petitions of
geophysicists who thought it might result in rather nasty effects (i.e. new
volcanoes & whatnot)

perhaps we can get the enviornmental groups to lobby for this project as a
clean source of energy...

ye servante of ye great olde ones...
-Scott
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:17:57 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: Nothing in Particular

Erg, isn't this the third time this exact post has shown up here?

 Thing is, we don't particularly want to kill ourselves. WE WANT TO KILL YOU.
ALL OF YOU. AND ANYTHING THAT MIGHT EVOLVE SO THAT IT RESEMBLES YOU. Death for
us is meerly a necessary side effect, one that we're willing to accept.

DEATH TO MOTHER EARTH! Pave the sucker over!

Mitch Hagmaier         Yesterday This Day's Madness did prepare;
Quest Laboratories     To-morrow's Silence, Triumph, or Dispair:
Terraforming Division   Drink! for you know not whence you came, nor why:
State College, Pa      Drink! for you know not why you go, nor where.
cmh114@psuvm.psu.edu
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From: bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Tilt the Earth
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:04:50 GMT

Ok, OK, I'm humbled.  

I can see that my idea about nuking the moon didn't go over too well.  I guess
that too many articles on overkill ratio, etc., caused me to overestimate the
power of nukes.  Still, though, I think we need to come up with something
better than viruses, poisons, and other such methods of destruction.  

I would really be quite happy with destroying the entire human race, but I
would be much happier if we could obliterate the entire planet.  As for wiping
out humanity, I think that you guys have come up with some pretty good ideas,
but as far as I can tell, everything you suggest is going to leave the
possibility of some shards of life hanging on.  The only sure (As far as I can
tell) solution is to somehow get the earth out of its orbit around the sun. I
would love to hear anybody elses comments on how to accomplish this, or an
alternative way to obliterate _all_ life.

And by the way, I'm serious about this.  I really would like to play a part in
destroying the earth.  There seem to be a lot of ideas out there, but no really
_workable_ plans.  I hope that whenever I post an idea (or anyone else, for
that matter), everyone here picks it apart and points out all of the flaws, and
then when we have a workable idea, we can start working on making it a reality.

--Joshua

+++ Wasn't Bertrand Russell a pacifist? +++
From: lenny@terapin.com (Steven Lennaman)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: Nothing in Particular
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:33:32 PST
Organization: BBS

think of it like this 
 If i am going to die why not take all of you with me 
 Why go alone
 Most of you norms have no idea other than were and when you next paycheck is
do.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:10:27 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: England? Switzerland? BAH!

England? Switzerland? CANADA? Ferchrissakes, if we're destroying the planet
country by country, why not start with that worthless stain on the continent
between Spain and the Low countries. LET'S FLATTEN FRANCE! Ship all that
unwanted NYC refuse to France, they'll probably mistake it for out-of-town
relitives dropping in for a visit! Burn their fields, slaughter thier young,
drive their cowering populance before the cleansing wind! Smash the towns,
break thier bridges, bury thier springs. Exterminate from human knowledge the
very concept of "French"!
DIE YOU WORTHLESS FROGS!

Mitch Hagmaier         Yesterday This Day's Madness did prepare;
Quest Laboratories     To-morrow's Silence, Triumph, or Dispair:
Terraforming Division   Drink! for you know not whence you came, nor why:
State College, Pa      Drink! for you know not why you go, nor where.
cmh114@psuvm.psu.edu
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: death to england first
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:03:58 GMT
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In article <1aauntINN8ce@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi) writes:
>In article <1a9mvrINNnq@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>>>	Jason
>>>Our Reporter On The Hideous Plane Of Leng
>                              ^^^^^
>			Near the unspeakable triangle of Kadath, I presume...
>
>>	I personally favor razing Berkley.  If only to get them out of the way
>>so we can destroy the rest of the earth in peace.

>   I beg your pardon! Berkeley isn't just eco-hobbits, granola-fascists and

But it is the home of the heretic imitation Cthulhu-worshippers

>new-age bliss-ninnies. This is the university of Lawerence, of Oppenheimer,
>of (dare the name even be spoken?) EDWARD "BOOM-BOOM" TELLER! The work of
>these men (and their students and successors over the hills in Livermore)
>will be of the utmost value to us! Besides, there are literally a dozen

Like Chronos eating his young, we shall raze this place. (See the Goya of
this event "Chronos Eating his Young")
Ed-Teller goes with us though...

yrs under the elder sign...
-Scott



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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: death to england first
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:58:15 GMT
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In article <1aaubuINN89j@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.023710.11839@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:
>>We _could_ start in England, Switzerland, or Canada, but I think
>>our best bet is somewhere like L.A. or New York where
>>those 'Eco-Hobbits' (what a cool phrase.  Kudos to whoever
>>thought it up.) won't notice us until IT'S TOO LATE.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Scott Locklin (?sp?), I believe... cf. "New-Age Bliss-Ninny", from
>sci.skeptic.

thats "ye servante of ye great olde ones" to you pal; and its alt.satanism 
thank you kindly. Also _I_ represent Cthulhu! Accept no imitators! They are
Shuggoth-bait when the old ones rise again!

>>	Jason
>>Our Reporter On The Hideous Plane Of Leng
>
>   About a year ago I suggested a method for doing this: Build an Orion in,

for doing what? What orion? The space propulsion method?

>	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
>	In Real Life: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu
>	larval physicist
>	VP, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu (Berkeley) {NOT!}

yrs under the elder sign...
-Scott

                               


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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Nothing in Particular
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:28:24 GMT

rlee@andy.bgsu.edu (Bob Lee) writes:

>If all of you hate this world and the people in it so much why don't you
>just kill yourselves. If you destroy the earth you'll be killing yourself
>anyways. It just seems to me that killing yourself would bypass a step
>and be a lot easier.

I don't want to kill me.  I want to kill everything else, except for Elle
MacPhearson.  Then I want coat the earth with a black shiny plastic substance
that will make it look like a large bowling ball from outer space.  It will
also be really great for driving on.
-- 
	"Oh, save me from these pale green pants with nobody inside!"

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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