From: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: RE: Arab U N I T Y
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:27:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris) writes responding on
article written by me:

|> The only times there was a unity among Arabs were during Islam.  Arabs
|> before Islam came into life were fighting all the time.  Some examples are
|> the wars b/w Awis and Khazraj, the war of Dashis and Ghabra' which lasted
|> forty years and many others.  Now, in the abscence of Islam the same picture
|> is back again.
|>
|> Some words to the wise:
|>
|> Omer Bin Khatab had once said, "We are people that God blessed us with
|> Islam and through it we find our dignity, and if we try to
|> find our dignity with ways other than Islam, God will humilate us."
|>
|> Isn't this what is happening dear Arab netters?
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>I find an irony that people in the 21st century still think that religion will
>solve a human problem such as Arab unity. During Islam there was no Arabs, ther
>was an Islamic empire that incorporated the present Arabic states, Turkey, Iran
>and many other places. Those people were united for a breif time in history
>due to the political nature of the empire that had the goal to spread the word
>of God through the Qu'ran.

>There is ample historical evidence to show that religions alone will not unify
>people. Yet some people continue to harp on this very issue. If God has
>humiliated the Arabs or Muslims, how come he does not send some one like
>Mohammad to resurect the population from its misery?.

>The problem is that people fail to recognise that Islam and all other religions
>have failed because they no longer serve the same purpose. Religions were
>meant to be a way for explaining nature, instead, they have become a race to
>reach the heavens. In the process the Arabs have lost every thing.

>The most practical solution toward the Arabic problems in my opinion is not
>through Islam, rather, to use the Arabic League. The Arabic League is even olde
>than the U.N., but not used effectively. Mixing the entire Arabic people under
>religious beleifs or a centralised political entity will only lead to more
>failures. Witness the down fall of the Soviet empire, I would contend that
>the people on this network cannot even agree on the Capital for such a politica
>or religious driven union.

>The best assests the Arabic people have is the language, culture, and religious
>beleifs. Those can be used to build a political, economic, and military
>co-oporation by strengthining the charter of the Arabic League and to give it a
>braoder responsibility. This is far easier than lumping every one into a
>geographic pool that requires surrmounting many obstacle internal and external
>to the Arabs.

>I am at a loss to think that going back in time will lead to salvation.

>A.Faris
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One major thing I have to clearify is that I know for sure is that you are not
a muslim.  Therefore, I can't convince a person like you Islam is the solution
to Arab unity.  It just doesn't work!

Your biggest problem is that you have a null idea what Islam is and what
its history is.  Of course I am not surprise that a christian man like you
come up with all the proposals to sovle Arab problems.  A second biggest
problem is that you don't learn from history.  You always look at the
Arab league to be our saver.  How wonderful!  Look at what we are in now!

History is very important to man kind.  From the past, people learn their
future.  Can you deny that?  And if we, *muslim arabs*, found dignity through
Islam in the past, we will, inshallah, find it in the future.

Your saying, "Why doesn't God send Mohamed puh to save us?" reminds me of
a killer who was asked why he killed three people, and his response was that
God wants them to be killed.  And he was asked how come? He said I gave each
one of them half an hour for God to show up and save them,  but God never
showed up and it looked God wanted them to be killed.
I leave it for you to find the correlation between the two?
                                                            
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