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Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: uuxqt won't start -- ILLEFC
From: Ethan VanMatre <sysevm@nsrvan.vanc.wa.us>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 09:12:39 PST
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Help,

	I've come in this morning and found our DECUS UUCP to be non-functional.
I'm starting on the problem and thought I would ask for clues.

	The uucp.log showns:

* Couldn't start uuxqt (%SYSTEM-F-ILLEFC, illegal event flag cluster) u:-

	About the only thing that changed was the addition of another
pathworks node to our system (total is 3 now)

	In the mean time I'm digging into this and the obvious things to check
show nothing out of the unusual.

thanks, Ethan
From: msieweke@hayes.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: News v6.1 won't allow manager access
Date: 11 Aug 92 23:22:39 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

Here's an interesting (frustrating) problem with the new version of news:

After installing the new version of uucp and news, I am no longer able
to execute news manager commands.  I had defined the NEWSMANAGER rights
ID, and it was granted to my userid and to NEWSMGR.  However, news v6.1
does not recognize either userid as a news manager.  Both userids have
SYSPRV privilege also.

If I run news v5.9, everything works as it did before.

In my system log name table I have:
  "NEWS_MGR_ID" [exec] = "NEWSMANAGER"
  "NEWS_MGR_UN" [exec,no_alias] = "NEWSMGR"

If anyone has any suggestions on how to approach this problem, I would
greatly appreciate your adivice.  I don't have the source for news, but
if necessary I will retrieve the source.
-- 
Mike Sieweke                            ...!uunet!hayes!msieweke
Hayes Microcomputer Products            msieweke@hayes.com
Norcross, Georgia                       hayes!msieweke@uunet.uu.net
"I've never seen so many people obsessed with the trivial!"
   - a co-worker after his first time reading news
From: carvalho@mtechca.maintech.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: vms-sunos login failures
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:07:29 PST
Organization: MAINTECH, A division of Volt Delta Resources, Inc. Orange, CA

Sorry if it's a FAQ...

Trying to get sparc2 to uucp via dialup into 785 running decus uucp. The sparc
dials thru a QBlazer, connect, reads the username and password prompt, which
I've checked many times, the vax responds with a User Auth. Fail.
help!
--joe
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: ben@ccbenj.technion.ac.il (Ben Pashkoff)
Subject: Re: How to boot VMS from a failed AUDIT writing
Reply-To: ben@ccbenj.technion.ac.il (Ben Pashkoff)
Organization: Technion IIT, Haifa Israel
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 12:23:16 GMT


In article <1992Aug10.142728.4397@mic.ucla.edu>, shinn@agsm.ucla.edu (Shinn-Tzong Wu) writes:
|>
|>Hi, we just encounteded one of our worst nightmare, the VAXStation 3100
|>(running VMS 5.3) died probably because it ran out of disk space for
|>the AUDIT process.  Since the AUDIT process tried to write into the
|>full disk in the process of rebooting, there seemed to be no way that we
|>can bring the system up.  We tried to boot it from a stand alone tape but
|>it won't access to any of the disks.  Can anyone suggest any help?  Thanks...
|>
1) do not bother booting from tape, it will be a waste of LOTS of time.
2) boot a conversational bootstrap:
  >>b/1
  sysboot> set startup "min"
  sysboot> cont
3) login to system account
4) delete any LARGE files that are nont-needed. favorites may be old
OPERATOR.LOG files, NETSERVER.DAT files, .LOG files, etc.
ALSO it my be worthwhile to:
   ANAL/DISK/REP dka200:
   and
   SET VOL/REBUILD dka200:
4) MC SYSGEN
   SYSGEN> set startup ""
   SYSGEN> write active
   SYSGEN> write current
5) reboot
--
________________________________________________________________________
|            Ben Pashkoff                 BEN@VMSA.TECHNION.AC.IL      |
|                                                                      |
| "There is nothing better for the body than silence." Pirke Avot 1:17 |
|______________________________________________________________________|
From: rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: Bug in GAS inhibits DEBUGger functioning.
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:05:00 GMT
Followup-To: vmsnet.misc
Organization: California Institute of Technology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug11.112127.4423@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes...
> I keep seeing the following messages from GAS:
>
> gcc-as warning(debugger output):Forward reference error, dbx type 54
> gcc-as warning(debugger output):Forward reference error, dbx type 59
> gcc-as warning(debugger output):Unable to resolve 1 circular references.
> 
> Which make the debugger unusable for that module.  (When the image is run,
> it complains of badly nested DST records, which would figure).
> 
> Is this a known bug in GAS?  I'm using the GCC 1.40C and G++ 2.2.2 kits.
> Are there later versions? Is there a fix?  I haven't been able to reduce
> it to a simple case yet, but if someone wants to tackle the debugging
> I'll see if I can't get something simple to cause the condition.

     The problem is caused by gcc2 (or gas's failure to honor the code
generated by gcc2); gcc 1.40 does not exhibit those symptoms, at least for
the situation I recently encountered it and the test case I've produced.
--
struct oops {
  union {
    long q_rdt[2];
    struct { unsigned long l_rdt0; long l_rdt4; } r_rdt_fields;
  } r_rdt_overlay;
  union {
    long q_cdt[2];
    struct { unsigned long l_cdt0; long l_cdt4; } r_cdt_fields;
  } r_cdt_overlay;
};

int foo(void) { return 0; }
--
That gives a complaint about forward reference for dbx type 18.  (Those
numbers will vary depending on the data structures in your program and
the order gcc encounters them.)  This test is derived from <xabdatdef.h>;
as a temporary work-around you might try suppressing or altering it if
you happen to be using `#include <rms.h>' but don't need $xabdat.  Of
course other code could cause gcc to generate similar offending .stabs
directives, particularly if you're dealing with the structures and unions
generated by UNSDL for assorted VMS data structures.

		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu
From: D.Nash@utexas.edu (Donald L. Nash)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: How to boot VMS from a failed AUDIT writing
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:37:47 GMT
Organization: University of Texas System Office of Telecommunication Services


>>Once you have fixed it up, I beleive there is a way of setting up the audit
>>server so that the machine simply suspends anything which is waiting on the
>>audit server.
>
>A much more effective command which will prevent the problem from
>reoccuring is set audit/server=stop, preferably in the system startup
>procedure.

I found out how to keep the audit server from ever starting up in the
first place.  In the SYSMAN STARTUP database STARTUP$STARTUP_VMS, there
is a file called VMS$CONFIG-050_AUDIT_SERVER.COM.  Disable this file (on
all nodes, if you're in a cluster), and the audit server will never
start.  I think this was mentioned somewhere in the release notes for
the version of VMS in which the audit server first appeared.  I don't
remember where I found it, but it is a handy thing to do.  You just need
to remember to do it every time you upgrade VMS (oops, I mean OpenVMS :-).

>I strongly object to a system being delivered with the default
>configuration one that will prevent the system from running when an otherwise
>easily correctable system management problem occurs.

I fully agree.  VMS should come with the audit server disabled in the
manner I described above.  It is a very simple matter to turn it on if
you need it.

                                ++Don Nash

The University of Texas System			Internet:  D.Nash@utexas.edu
Office of Telecommunication Services		BITNET:    DON@THENIC
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: jeremiahw@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: Digital logo replacement
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:51:48 GMT

I know this was here before but I didn't save it and now I need it  :-(

How do you replace the Digital Logo above the login box?  (I am running Motif)
I seem to remember that it was a PS or EPS file but I can't find it.

Thanks in advance.

>>Jerry

Don't mail to me this and please don't post it.   Please mail it to

                rotondog@wl.aecl.ca

Thanks again.
From: HLA@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: DCL Menu Environment
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:49:00 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

We have a large group (approx. 1600) of users that log into our
Vax Cluster through dialups connections using VT100 emulators. I don't
want these users to be thrown to the $ for various reasons. I also
don't want to customize the login files for each of these users since
most of them have particular services they can/cannot access. My question
is does anybody know of Software (commercial or otherwise) that
provides a flexible menu management environment? We already looked at
Allin1 - it is too expensive/slow/big and seems a bit like overkill
for what we need. Something based on DCL would fit the bill. If nobody
knows of anything I will be developing something myself, but I thought
I better check first.

 Thanks for any help.

Mike Hite
Penn State University
MIKE@PSUPEN.PSU.EDU
From: laurie@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: conecting to compuserv?
Date: 11 Aug 92 15:21:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Hi
I have an acound on internet and would like to conect to compuserv in
the U.S can it be done?  will I need an acount on compuserv?
please reply be mail
thank you
Joey
From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: ISVNET newsgroups are available...
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:24:48 GMT
Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: tp


In article <9AUG199211530719@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud
Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
>	BTW2, in case you didn't know it, this is the 20th
>	century, and everyone can access SLIP for about the
>	same cost as UUCP.  UUCP is obsolete.

It would be if internet connections were free, but they aren't. I speak UUCP to
my neighboring internet site because I don't have the blessings of the US
government to connect to the internet, or the cash to do it through a commercial
vendor. Also, SLIP doesn't provide for periodic calling and shutting down the
line when all the traffic is done. PPP may do all these things, I don't know
since I haven't seen it yet.

(I missed the original article, so I'm not commenting on anything Dick wrote.)
--
Terry Poot <tp@mccall.com>                   The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!rutgers!depot!mccall!tp)          615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in KS (913)776-4041           Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
Xref: sparky vmsnet.misc:714 comp.windows.x.intrinsics:183
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc,comp.windows.x.intrinsics
Subject: VMS, DW/Motif, XtAppAddInput() question
From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:45:39 CST
Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: tp


Does anybody know how to get XtAppAddInput() to work under DECwindows/Motif 1.0
on VMS 5.5? The only documentation DEC supplies (that I can find) specifically
says that the source and condition arguments are OS specific and then tells what
they look like on Posix systems. 

I went back to the old DECwindows (XUI) docs and tried doing it that way, with
an event flag and IOSB, and that isn't working. I've tried different event
flags, and I've tried having the first QIO done immediately, or later via a work
procedure. 

I'm trying to do I/O to VMS mailbox devices. I'm using QIO (not QIOW), and I'm
not using IO$M_NOW, so the I/O request will actually wait until the other
process reads or writes to the mailbox (I have one of each on different
mailboxes), but the program doesn't wait for the I/O request. When the other
process does do its read or write, the event flag should be set and the IOSB
filled in, causing Xt to call the procedure specified in the XtAppAddInput()
call.

That all seems to be happening as far as I can tell, except the processing
routine isn't being called. I know the I/O's are working and the IOSB's are
being filled in, because right now I'm simulating the XtAppAddInput() processing
with a work procedure that checks the IOSB's and calls the procedure that Xt
should have called when the IOSB was filled in (i.e. the I/O completed). This
works fine, with the nasty little side effect that it consumes all available CPU
time polling the IOSB's.

Has anyone gotten this to work? What's the trick?

[PS. Dear DEC, of you are out there, please document aspects (such as this) of
DECwindows that aren't in the industry standard documentation that you
provide.]
--
Terry Poot <tp@mccall.com>                   The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!rutgers!depot!mccall!tp)          615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in KS (913)776-4041           Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
From: dy@duke.cs.duke.edu (Doreen Yen)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Pixmap <-> BitmapFile ?
Keywords: pixmap, bitmapfile
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:49:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


   I would really like to write a pixmap file, but I only see routines,
XWriteBitmapFile and XReadBitmapFile.  The write apparently works,
writing a pixmap of depth 8, but XReadBitmapFile returns the error
file invalid.
   In the DECWindows Xlib programming manual there is mention of
XCreatePixmapFromBitmapData but this routine is NOT documented in the
Xlib reference manual... shame on you DEC, there is nothing further in
BookReader either.  All I know about it is the arg types from xlib.h

    All the examples of getting a pixmap are from data, NOT from a file.
  
    Has somebody written and read a pixmap file?

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Doreen Yen			UUCP: ..!{ihnp4,decvax}!duke!dy
				CSNET: dy@duke
				ARPA:  dy@cs.duke.edu
"Have a Happy Year of the Monkey"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: mendi@netcom.com (Greg Mendizabal)
Subject: New Mail won't die!
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 14:09:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: mail

Recently I set up a batch job to remind me of important events (via 
VMS MAIL) and then resubmit itself.  Yes, you can see the GLARING error
that I made -- I had not changed the trigger time and so the process went
berserk and sent me 1638 mail messages before it crashed.  Well, in a 
rush I deleted the mail out of my directory without reading it.

Now, everytime I logon I have 1638 new mail messages.  I cannot eradicate
this "flag".  I've tried deleting my mail directory, the "mail" itself 
(ie send myself new mail and then do a del/all within mail).  I've even
killed my UAF entry and regenerated......only to find 1638 mail messages
waiting!!!

So, where is this flag bit set and kept????  We have another account with
the same problem (only 2 msgs however).

This is driving me nuts!  ;-)

GRiM
(mendi@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: How to boot VMS from a failed AUDIT writing
From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:45:24 CST
Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: tp


In article <1992Aug11.123003.247@winkle.bhpese.oz.au>,
robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.142728.4397@mic.ucla.edu>, shinn@agsm.ucla.edu
>(Shinn-Tzong Wu) writes:
>> Hi, we just encounteded one of our worst nightmare, the VAXStation 3100
>> (running VMS 5.3) died probably because it ran out of disk space for  
>> the AUDIT process.  Since the AUDIT process tried to write into the
>> full disk in the process of rebooting, there seemed to be no way that we
>> can bring the system up.  We tried to boot it from a stand alone tape but
>> it won't access to any of the disks.  Can anyone suggest any help? 
>Thanks...

Don't ya' love it? What could be more secure than a system that won't run, even
after a reboot? Let's see someone hack it now! It has an even better mode that
will cause the system to crash when this happens, including right after reboot.
I suppose that's designed as a boot block exerciser...

>...
>Once you have fixed it up, I beleive there is a way of setting up the audit
>server so that the machine simply suspends anything which is waiting on the
>audit server. You can then log in and cleanup the system disk and then do
>a SET AUDIT/SERVER=RESUME and everything will carry on as if nothing had
>happened.

A much more effective command which will prevent the problem from reoccuring is
set audit/server=stop, preferably in the system startup procedure. If you do
anything else, I recommend you read the VMS security manual from cover to cover
and find out what else the system will do to you if you aren't very careful.

The department I support lost 5 man-days of production work when this happened
to us. I strongly object to a system being delivered with the default
configuration one that will prevent the system from running when an otherwise
easily correctable system management problem occurs. I had to solve this by
dictating commands over the phone to a user who knew nothing about DCL, VMS
system management, etc.

People who want this level of security will read the security manual and learn
how to turn it on. They have a lot of other things to set up, and this one isn't
a big deal. People who don't shouldn't be forced to read the security manual to
turn it off, especially since they won't even know the problem is there until it
happens.
--
Terry Poot <tp@mccall.com>                   The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!rutgers!depot!mccall!tp)          615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in KS (913)776-4041           Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
From: bleau@umdsp.umd.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Two SCSI busses needed?
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:19:02 GMT
Reply-To: bleau@umdsp.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland Physics Dept., College Park, MD

I'm planning a purchase of a VAXstation 4000 model 90, and I'm considering
putting a 2nd SCSI adapter on its TurboChannel.  I'd like some feedback on the
wisdom and justifiabiliy of this approach.

My reasoning so far has been that I can foresee, within the next year, placing
external 4 SCSI devices externl to the system, which will already have the
internal RZ25 disk and a CD-ROM, making 7 SCSI units in use (including the
cpu), out of 8.  The additional devices would be a high-speed 1.7GB disk, a
rewritable optical drive whose media is likely be mounted /SYSTEM and accessed
by all, a 6250bpi tape drive, and an 8mm tape drive (5GB capacity) used to
import daat (weekly) and to back up the entire cluster's disks (5GB worth) on a
daily basis.

Question #1: Is a 2nd SCSI adapter the only (best? least expensive?) way of
making an additional set of units available?

Another, somewhat realted question, is about the bus load and how it may be
balanced.  Assume a moderate to heavy i/o use on this workstation: data
frequently being transferred between disk, optical, and tape, as well the
probability that this will be the boot node in a VMScluster.

Question #2: Could the SCSI bus turn into a bottleneck for even a workstation
as powerful as the VS4000 model 90 and impair its effective use?  If so, how
likely is that, and how much of an impairment do you foresee?  

Separating the devices amoung two SCSIs would only partially help, by the way,
since (and you can correct me on this, as I'm guessing) one of the SCSI's would
be internal devices only and the other would be external devices.  This would
split off the system disk traffic (CD-ROM is negligable for now) from the rest
of the i/o, but would leave big hitters on the external SCSI (big disk, two
tapes, optical).

Question #3: How much of an i/o load reduction in this type of configuration
would adding another SCSI adapter be?  Would the remaining devices on the
external SCSI still present enough of an i/o load that they would interfere
with one another and with user programs?

You can email to me directly at bleau@umdsp.umd.edu and I will summarize and
report in about a week.  Thanks.

Larry Bleau
University of Maryland
bleau@umdsp.umd.edu
301-405-6223
From: leichter@zodiac.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: How to boot VMS from a failed AUDIT writingREAD/NEW/FOLLOWUP
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:27:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Computing Services

Terry Poot complains that the default configuration of the audit server makes
the system unbootable if the audit log fills.

This is really due to the DoD!  The audit server was designed around the DoD
secure system requirements as part of reaching C2 certification back in VMS
V4.5, or whichever version was actually certified.  A major requirement is
that all security-relevant actions be logged - and as part of that that the
system refuse to run when it cannot write log entries.  (I believe the certi-
fication actually included an exception because, if the log was being written
to a hard-copy device, it was possible for the system to continue if the
output device ran out of paper!)

Now, you can say that this feature should only be there if you ask for it.
However, the certification requirements must be met on the system AS IT
WOULD BE INSTALLED "OUT OF THE BOX".  Given the past history of systems that
are secure if you set them up right - but never seem to actually get set up
right - this is a wise policy.  Unfortunately, it means imposing a real
inconvenience on people who DON'T want this level of auditing.

							-- Jerry-