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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and Waffle
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:11:17 +1200
Distribution: World
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System
Keywords: Barf.

bjpocock@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Beastor the Mad) writes:

> I was just wondering if someone has one line running in background with
> Windows 3.1 with a 386/33DX system, 8 megs memory, SupraFax v.32bis or other
> 14.4k modem, and can run other dos applications like Aces of Pacific or
> something without having severe slowdown.

Me here, 10 megs RAM (although 4 megs permanent swap file, fast Hard Drive).
Windows, i386 33mHz, SupraFaxModem v32bis, no worries running other
applications, such as Turbo C (DOS), Turbo Pascal (DOS), Corel Draw! (Windows),
MS Works (DOS), and a NDOS command window, all at once if necessary.  I've
streamlined things though, and experience quite a slowdown when running all
that lot at once.  But I rarely need to do that ;-).  All depends on how
much priority you give to each application.

--
cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz    X Phil Ross
cybapunk@tornado.welly.gen.nz  X Sysop of The Hovel BBS
cybapunk@sideways.welly.gen.nz X Author of Lords And Ladies, _THE_ BBS door!
     ... If at first you don't succeed, redefine success ...
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: Gert.Doering@ap.mchp.sni.de (Gert Doering)
Subject: UUCICO 1.65 and different packet-sizes?
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
Date:  7 Sep 92 13:40:50 GMT

Hi,

has anybody succeeded in using DOS-Waffle 165's uucico with non-standard
packet-sizes (e.g. 512 byte)? I'm using taylor-uucp, my feed is using
waffle 1.65 and with a packet-size of 64 bytes everything works fine.

When we tried 512 bytes (for improving throughput), all we experienced was
that my UUCICO sent the first packet (INIT A,B,C went OK), the other UUCICO
rejected it, my uucico resent it, and so on until my UUCICO gave up.

Any ideas?

(I could post a complete debug listing with all packets, but maybe this
is a know problem and it is not necessary to use the bandwith)

gert
--
      Gert.Doering@sniap.mchp.sni.de <--> gert@greenie.gold.sub.org
From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 06:55:46 PST
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:

> Announcer: "What happens next?? Will Charlie chop his sig, or re-enact
>             Custer's last stand?? Stay tuned, same "chuck-time", same
>             "chuck-newsgroup"!"
 
> PS: If anyone actually read the message all the way until the end, and
> *LIKED* the captain-crew convo, please let me know... Just curious what
> the net.opinion was! Any comments +/- invited.

I thought it was hilarious!

It's a matter of being reasonable.  There is nothing anyone HAS to say that
can't be done in four lines.

Many people have small bumper stickers on the back of their car.  How
many people have *huge* signs on their rear bumper?  What would your
reaction be?

- Alan

----             email:                                  ,,,,  
Alan Millar       amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org            __oo  \  
    (Remember: only YOU can prevent bang paths)         =___/  
But Moses said "Oh, Lord, please send someone else to do it." -Exo. 4:13
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: UUCICO is confused.
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 14:17:12 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

Since I bought my computer a phone line, I've been setting up my system
to accept incoming connections.  I'm running into the strangest
artifact...

When an incoming connection is made, Waffle drops to the UUSHELL.BAT
normally, but UUCICO thinks the incoming connection is at 19200!
NETWORK.DOC says

        -b <speed>      Speed of connection. If not present, UUCICO
                        will either use the speed present in the Systems
                        file, or attempt to determine the speed of the
                        incoming connection.

The systems file specifies a 2400 connect (although the speed is
actually defined in /waffle/uucp/dialers) and the connect is indeed at
2400. I have

uucico -r0

in UUSHELL.BAT.  So how come UUCICO is seeing 19200?  I've kluged a
solution with 'uucico -b2400 -r0', but I'd rather have this work as the
manual specifies.

Waffle 1.65 distribution version, BNU 1.70 (I think... no memory to
shell out and look) and I don't lock my comport.

Any ideas, Wafflers?
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
                      -- Mr Wiggen, of Ironside and Malone (Monty Python)
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Modem throughput
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 19:06:28 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

I have two V.32/V.42 modems, a Computer Peripherals Viva 9642e and a
Telebit Q-Blazer.  Throughput on the Viva is almost 3 times the QB.

How come?  I am beginning to think that my "investment" in the QB was a
waste of $$$.

steve

play:steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US 408.252.0578     work:harding@nas.nasa.gov
              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
From: at595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Garrett Laska)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: QWK, Mark Mail Doors
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:39:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Garrett Laska)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


  Can anyone out there shed some light on a dim subject (my brain).. that
being what in the heck the format is of the .ndx files that are produced
by QWK compatible doors... I'm currently stuck on this 1 point, I'm writing a 
QWK Mail door and for the life of me can't figure it out... I have misc
docs of the QWK standards, everything else is a piece of cake but here is my
situation:
    The QWK docs say that the numbers in the .ndx files are MSBIN or BasicReal
format, and that I have to convert them to/from a Float format??? why would
they be floating point numbers anyways, a Long int (4 odd million) would seem
sufficient, but anyways, here is a routine I pulled out of the docs..

		union Converter		
		{
			unsigned char uc[10];
			unsigned int  ui[5];
			unsigned long ul[2];
			float	       f[2];
			double	       d[1];
		}

		float MSBINToIEEE(float f)
		{
			union Converter t;
			int sign, exp;

			t.f[0] = f;

			sign = t.uc[2] / 0x80;
			exp  = (t.uc[3] - 0x81 + 0x7F) & 0xFF;

			t.ui[1] = (t.ui[1] & 0x7F) | (exp << 7) | (sign << 15);
			return(t.f[0]);
		}


  I have many QWK packets I've pulled off of many boards, and always, the first
.ndx file (the one that pertains to the first message in Message.dat) contains
for the first message 0x82... which is 130 in decimal... if you run that 
through the converter you don't get a Byte seek position or a 128byte block
position?? At least that is one common thing... from there on out it seems 
erratic as to what the next value will be... Someone told me that they were
not MSBIN numbers and were just Byte seek positions for the Message.dat file
but that doesn't fly.... Anyone out there that knows what I'm talking about??
I appreciate any help!!!

-- 
	
	      
	     Garrett Laska...  
             Internet: AT595@cleveland.freenet.edu  Cleve, OH
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Vacation program
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 12:52:05 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> That message is most likely coming from RMAIL, and is a result of the
> parent program's environment getting trashed.  I have run into the same
> problem with The Moderator's Assistant, and curing it was a major
> exercise in frustration.  The real problem is that it doesn't happen on
> all machines.  (it didn't happen on mine, but on my beta-tester's)

Ah. So when vacation.exe calls RMAIL, the environment gets lost?
Did you find any obvious differences between your set up and your
beta tester's that might contribute to that happening?

> Unfortunately, there's no external cure.  The vacation program would
> have to be re-written slightly to work around it.

Hmm. Well, I'm not going to push for a re-write or anything as it
is a tool with null demand here. It is rather frustrating to not
be able to get it to work, tho. Oh well.



--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: Alexandros.Gougousoudis@f41.n2403.z2.fidonet.org (Alexandros Gougousoudis)
Sender: postmaster@p2.f41.n2403.z2.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FredGate version 19L
Date: 05 Sep 92  09:47:00 EST

 > Try ftp'ing to ieee.org and looking in /pub/fido --lotsa
 > good fido stuff in there.

Where can I get it via Fido Filerequest or via an Mail-Server?

greetings
alec

---
 * Origin: Krypta.UUCP,UseNet-Berlin,FRG.FReq: 8:00-13:00h AM! (2:2403/41)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: marpia@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (David Powers [Informatik])
Subject: Portable waffle (or surrogate elm)
Summary: solution to allow email from unnetworked laptop
Keywords: notebook laptop naive-user editor email news-readers
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:33:01 GMT

Yesterday I heard about waffle/C.B.W and downloaded and installed
it insofar as I was able - but I'm not in a position to use a feed.

Problem. 

1. I'm moving around, I've got accounts on half a dozen or so unix
machines/LANs but work primarily from a laptop via modem.

2. I am in, or want to be in, email contact with users who have and
are familiar with PCs and Modems, but not UNIX (esp. vi or emacs).

3. My accounts are spread around 4 countries, and my PC users
extend that even further.


Solution

I want to be able to have a scheduler transfer mail (including
LISTs) and perhaps some news groups to the PC/notebook overnight,
and vice-versa.  But I'm not interested in setting up formal uucp
nodes because of the hassle and multiplicity.

I recently wrote some shell scripts (DOS & UNIX) to bring over mail
and separate out the lists and high priority mail (viz. from me)
into separate mailboxes.  But I don't have a mail reader to process
them on the PC (but I understand there are mush and elm versions
for the PC as well as something called readmail - from my reading
of C.B.W today).  Waffle's mail reader (and the fact that I can set
it up to use X's favorite editor) is acceptable.  (I have versions
which use elm to do the work, another using sed, and versions for
both MMDF and Mail formats - and shortly waffle's).

Having gone to the trouble of installing waffle, it would be great
if there were a uucico like program that could run under a mere
mortal's UNIX account and pick up or post news as well as grab the
users mailbox.  If not, I will probably kludge something together.
But is there a solution out there already.  The waffle docs mention
lots of people ftp'ing and xmodem'ing stuff over and then piping it
through rmail or rnews.

The other thing I will investigate is using pc-elm (or mush), and
setting up scripts to automatically force them into waffle format.

I am also keen to get hold of an AT or RUNAT like scheduler which
can automatically initiate the transfers in the early hours.

Please email me any ideas related to any of this (the best address
to use is powers@dfki.uni-kl.de, although replying to marpia will
be fine too).

Thanks advancely,

DavidP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: wintert@wl.com (Tom Winters)
Subject: Re: FredGate version 19L
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:35:12 GMT

In article <715730939.0@krypta.fidonet.org> Alexandros.Gougousoudis@f41.n2403.z2.fidonet.org (Alexandros Gougousoudis) writes:
> > Try ftp'ing to ieee.org and looking in /pub/fido --lotsa
> > good fido stuff in there.
>
>Where can I get it via Fido Filerequest or via an Mail-Server?
>
>greetings
>alec

alec - you can F-Req FRED19M.arj from my system starting this evening.  I
just pick a copy up this morning from ftp.ieee.org.  I should have it on 
line sometime this evening.  My system is the Snowshoe Consulting BBS at
Fidonet 1:2200/101.0 (313-665-5927).

Tom Winters               | Internet wintert@wl.com





Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:57:28 GMT

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:

>dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Dr. Klaus Wolferts) writes:

>> I remember to have read anywhere (where?) that a sig should not be 
>> longer than 4 lines. 

>That is correct. 4 is considered tolerable, 5 is considered pushing
>nettiquette. Anything more results in mega-flamage.

Keep in mind, also, that the '--' is in actuality a '-- ' and that
it is considered by purists to be part of the sig, which limits
the witty sayings to THREE lines of text.
From: amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org (Alan Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Folder magic for orphan and outbox
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:30:06 GMT
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org> writes:
> 
> > After all the discussion recently about how to read the orphan folder,
> > I decided to post what I finally came up with. 
> [...]
> > for %%f in (%mailfiles%) do copy %mailfolder%/b+%mailmarker%+%%f %mailfolde
> 
> This line will append the "^A^A^A^A" sequence to the copied file.  If
> the copied file is a mailfolder, there's _already_ an MMDF delimiter at
> the end of the file.  Doesn't this cause problems with reindexing the
> file, especially if you have appended to that mailfolder before?

No.  Honest, I always test my batch files before posting them :-)

If the file already has four ^A's at then end, this will append four
more as you noticed.  This will make eight ^A's.  Fortunately,
Tom made the programs smart enough that four or eight or eleventeen ^A's
are all treated as a single message separator.  Properly robust :-)

So no matter what separators are already in the file, it works.
 
> I've found that the only time you need to write "^A^A^A^A" is when you
> are creating a new folder.

Strictly speaking, yes.  But since the programs are smart enough, my
method works for all cases.

- Alan

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Alan Millar       amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org            __oo  \  
    (Remember: only YOU can prevent bang paths)         =___/  
But Moses said "Oh, Lord, please send someone else to do it." -Exo. 4:13
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 for Xenix - where is it?
From: tim@qed.cts.com (Tim Capps)
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:06:17 GMT
Organization: The QED BBS, Lakewood CA

dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:

> In article <y7aTqB10w164w@qed.cts.com> tim@qed.cts.com (Tim Capps) writes:
> 
> >I have sent off a couple of letters to Uncle Tom, but I guess he's
> >busy or something.
> 
> I have not received any mail from you recently.

Yea, I know, they keep bouncing because 'mips' disppeared recently, and
the maps haven't all been updated yet. (sigh)  I'll send you snail-mail
with my address and whatnot.  Thanks!

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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and Waffle
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:05:15 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

bjpocock@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Beastor the Mad) writes:

> I was just wondering if someone has one line running in background with
> Windows 3.1 with a 386/33DX system, 8 megs memory, SupraFax v.32bis or other
> 14.4k modem, and can run other dos applications like Aces of Pacific or
> something without having severe slowdown.

We tried it on one site. (Same exact setup except for a Practical 9600SA).
It   ran    very    slow    when we tried to do other things with the
system, and a waffle function (uucp/user) was running. It did, of course,
depend on what the user was doing.

However, another machine (40mhx DX with 16m of ram) did pretty well. But
they converted to OS/2, and that seems to be working  _really_ well.


--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA 
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Cookie Press 1.61 available and online!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:51:13 GMT

In article <6Fm4qB2w165w@slic.cts.com> mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
|I added Zippy also.  This is great because I had combined the
|zippy and cookie files as there was no way to get to the Zippy
|file from waffle.

Since when?

Echo %Z, or put ~%Z in a text file.  My extern /waffle/extern/zippy is:
/command="echo %Z" /waffle

  Bill
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Amazing ADMIN entries!
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:19:06 +1200
Distribution: World
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System
Keywords: dos waffle 165

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> I was looking through the WAFFLE.EXE binary (DOS 1.65 version) looking 
> for header lines so I would know what kinds of headers can be altered 
> (using the ALTER static option, of course) when I came across some very 
> strange text strings that really piqued my interest.
> 
> They appear to be related to ADMIN functions.  Here are a few:
>   - Generate fake line noise
>   - Monitor this user (Big Brother)
>   - Feedback accepted

Fake line noise is an idea I contemplated a while back.  It would be a
great addition, as there is many a user that I'd like to use it on.  As
well as FeedBack Accepted...

--
cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz    X Phil Ross
cybapunk@tornado.welly.gen.nz  X Sysop of The Hovel BBS
cybapunk@sideways.welly.gen.nz X Author of Lords And Ladies, _THE_ BBS door!
     ... If at first you don't succeed, redefine success ...
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Vacation program
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 15:06:31 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> I can't get vacation.exe to work. I get an error stating my
> waffle environment variable is not set, which is nuts because
> Waffle wouldn't even start up in the first place if that were
> not defined. I even tried, from DOS, doing a set waffle command
> and then runing vacation. Same result.

That message is most likely coming from RMAIL, and is a result of the
parent program's environment getting trashed.  I have run into the same
problem with The Moderator's Assistant, and curing it was a major
exercise in frustration.  The real problem is that it doesn't happen on
all machines.  (it didn't happen on mine, but on my beta-tester's)

Unfortunately, there's no external cure.  The vacation program would
have to be re-written slightly to work around it.
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
        "What do you mean, you've never been to Alpha Centauri?"
                                               -- Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem with write-command ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:48:41 GMT
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:

> Anyone else noticed problems with the write command ?  I just got the
> wcp161.zip uuencoded from a mail server, and when I saved it I twice
> got uuencode file interrupted by ^A's.  Perhaps a length limitation ?
> I ended up taking the whole mailbox.f into emacs and munging it there.
> 

I also noticed the problem when doing the write command of a large
ps file mailed in sections. I also found the ^A's. It seemed to append
parts of the next mail piece from the mailbox.f.

Anyone else know what the problem is.

GeSS
--
Gess Shankar      |<><>|Internet: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM                |<><>|
Knowledge Exchange|<><>|{rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!gwinnett!knex!gess|<><>|
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Tracking mail volumes
From: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:33:30 GMT
Reply-To: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <218NqB2w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz>, dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl) writes:
>I am after a program to track net mail volumes sent and received.
>I need to track volumes on a total and per-user basis, due to mailing
>charges about to be imposed (US$15/Mb)
>Is there a program that will do this for waffle?

We wrote one because of the NZ e-mail charges, but have now suspended it
because it wasn't worth it (it charged according to VUW's rates but
VUW usually accidently lost the bill or missed many mail items so we
ended up with a big profit and felt guilty).  Also VUWs charging system
has changed and there's not the simple (10*k +3*k-1) system that we
used to have -- what system do you have in PN?

I can get the c source from tornado for you, but you'll have to recompile
it as everything's hardcoded.  It keeps an account for each user, and
when a user sends you money you credit their account by sending
e-mail to the program, "add 500 patrick".  When they send or receive
mail from non-free sites (it "knows" free sites) then it deducts so
much from their account.  If they are running low then it sends them
a warning.  And when they run out it holds incoming mail and won't
send mail out.  Users can control it via e-mail -- they can request
it to send them an account balance with every mail msg they send/receive
or on a weekly/monthly etc. basis.  But do you really want to use
such a system?  How many users are there sending out mail?  Hardly
worth it if there are only a couple.  BTW, this system was designed
to be "pay in advance", but I guess you could give users $X credit
and get them to pay later.


Pat.
From: peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple addresses
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:32:15 GMT
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

clubzen.fidonet.org!work!mwallis writes:

> peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs) writes:
> > I wondered aabout that one and Tom Dell told me that its supported by
> > rmail etc but not from within waffle... ( yet ?)
> 
> I've had no problems specifying multiple addresses in mail. I use:
> 
> m user1@system1.com site1!hop!system2!user2 70000,000@compuserve.com
> 
> It doesn't matter what form the address is. It tells me there are multiple
> addresses before asking for the subject, and when done, it lists each
> addressee (in alphabetcal order yet!) when posting.

Slight misunderstanding here ... if I specify
mail user1@sys1.com user2@sys1.com
2 seperate messages get queued up, the point was that we expected 1 to
be queued, rmail supports multiple addresses per message sent but not
rmail.



--
Bellatrix Systems Corp. Mississauga, Ontario Canada
peters@beltrix.guild.org or beltrix!peters