From: YST1@DCCCDBIT.BITNET (Yvette Traylor)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia
Subject: Re: Homosexuality
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:33:13 GMT
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> > Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:51:20 EDT
> > From:         Angela Zimmerman <AMZIMM01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
> > Subject:      Homosexuality
> > To:           "carl a. lahetta" <U952020>
> >
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> >
> > >  This is the tactic Gays are using.  The fact is that there are HOMOSEXUAL
> > >  and HETEROSEXUAL pedophiles.  They are not a separate category.  And what
> > >  about NAMBLA?  They are Homosexuals that want to do away with age consent
> > >  laws so that they can have sex with young boys.  And there are stats that
> > >  show most pedophiles are Gay.  I'll be happy to cite the sources tomorrow
> >
> >
> > NAMBLA?  I've never even heard of them, but from their stance I am fairly
> > positive that they are a small minority of all homosexuals.  Stats don't
> > really prove much of anything because if I tried hard enough (or had time
> > to do it) I could pull some stats out of a reputable source that directly
> > contradicted your stats.  That's the beauty of stats.  They can say whatever
> > you want them to.
>
>    For the most part yes, stats can be manipulated by how you define what
>    you are studying.  Also, they can be manipulated as in the case of stats
>    about the percentage of Americans that support abortions.  The media
>    reports that, for instance, 60% of Americans support abortions, but they
>   forget to tell you the "when the woman's life is in danger" part.  In this
>   case the stats are "true" but the reporting is misleading.
>
> > My question is, have you (or anyone on here that is
> > denouncing homosexuality as a sin) actually met (knowingly) a gay person?
>
>   Yes, several.
>
> > Have you spent time with that person?  What about a group of gay people?
>
>   Yes I have spent time with them, actually I have worked with them.
>
> > I have -many- gay friends and none of them are the monsters that they
> > are made to be here.  The only difference between them and the heterosexual
> > people that I know is that they prefer the same sex.  Which brings me to
> > another question:  what's the difference between a promiscous heterosexual
> > and a promiscous homosexual?
>
>   I am not trying to make them out to be monsters.  As or promiscuity, sin
>   is sin no matter who you prefer.  Lora Harris brought up an interesting
>   point, and one that I believe, and that is temptation is not sinful.  There
>   must be Christians that are tempted to engage in homosexual behavior, but
>   that does not make them worse than someone tempted to fornicate in a
>   heterosexual relationship.  And this should be obvious, yet it seems that
>   some Christians think that it is sinful to be tempted.
>
>   One point that I cannot understand though is how a Christian can be a
>   celibate homosexual.  At first when he/she is converted I can understand.
>   But for me this term implies that the person has, or is, not trying to\
>   change their heart, just their behavior.  Sin is not necessarily limited
>   to physical acts, but sin can also be an attitude or belief.  To me it
>   would seem as if the Homosexual would ask God to rid them of the desires
>   that he/she has.  God is not into only changing behavior, but He is also
>   into changing hearts.
>
>
> Carl-------+

   Yvette Traylor     "We are His people and the sheep of his pasture."
   Dallas County Community College District             Psalm 100:3
   Computer Programmer/Analyst  in  Dallas - Texas
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