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From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: Can you accept criticism ? (was Re: Why lurkers lurk ...)
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:16:28 GMT

Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>[more bullshit]

Ross, you're missing the point.

I could say, that in one of your more pathetic stages, that someone said
they were trying to avoid you because they didn't want you to try and sponge
off them the way you were sponging off several of your other friends that
summer. I won't, because if I was pressed as to who I heard this from, I'd
have to admit that I couldn't remember who said it, and I don't like saying
negative things that aren't verifiable. Who knows, maybe you've changed in
the last couple of years, and dragging out negative crap about you (that can't
be verified and might even no longer be valid) *in a public forum* would
be crass.

>>How can you stand to be a liar ?
>
>How do you?

Heh heh heh. Dodging the question is a good strategy, but will it work ?

>>If you don't care if they hear what you are saying, why are you talking ?
>
>If for some reason they can't hear what I'm saying, I'll speak louder.
>If they ignore what I say, or get upset at what I say, that's their problem.

Ah. Another effective communicator in action. Don't quit your day job.

A better strategy, if they can't hear what you are saying, is to try saying
it in a different way. The trouble with this strategy is you have to be
intelligent enough to find different ways of saying the same thing.

>>Just to hear yourself talk ?
>Mostly.

At least you realize it.

	fred
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From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Can you accept criticism ? (who cares why lurk ...)
Date: 14 Sep 92 07:19:52 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Sep13.180226.28675@mks.com> fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>I have difficulty picking up on subtle hints directed at me. So, unless they
>verbalize, it'll take me a while to figure out what's going on. And while
>I'm figuring out what's going on (and I have a very high, too high, tolerance
>level for shit from people when I like them and think they like me) I still
>consider them a friend.

Some people think that others know automatically what they mean.  They
give subtle hints, get angry and perhaps later say nasty things to
others.  It should be obvious enough that people can't read others'
minds.  The only acceptable way to tell that something is bothering is
to say (write) it aloud.

Juha
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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:43:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:

>I neglected Aloyisius/Alawishus/Aluwhishes jontai ploo ma rae.
>He proudly misspells!

Well, I have to be proud of something.

Oh, BTW, it's spelled like it sounds...."Aloysius".
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From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Boston Boink - Highlights
Keywords: Hairless Wonder, Police, Bananas
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:45:46 GMT
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Distribution: na
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Sep15.182946.21450@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.174817.24562@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
>>|>  
>>|> I love man baby jokes! Go on??????
>>
>>Go on?  About Peter?  I'll leave that to Dawn.  She does the best job
>>describing him! :-)
> 
>No No. I want to hear the jokes?

Such as it was.  Somebody said something about reading baby books and Peter
said "why read a book?  Just log on and type 'man baby.'"  And then 
everyone sighed and said "yep, unmistakable sign of a nerd."

Dawn
"Oh, Time!  Of all the dwellers here below 
You only elevate buffoons or fools,
Or him whose anus as an inkstand serves."
The Perfumed Garden of the Shaykh Nefzawl, translated by Sir Richard F. Burton
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From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Re: hello?
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:33:33 GMT

In article <BuH58I.62u@acsu.buffalo.edu> swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.163342.3600@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un030025@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>>Hello there everyone. Just out of curiosity, where are ya all writing from?
>
>We're all in a big office on West 132nd street.
>

Hi Steve.... I see you over that partition there! [*grin*]

>>I gotta admit that some of these messages are pretty funny. Just out 
>>meating people.
>
>Mmmmmmm.
>
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>swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC

Patrick

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From: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu (Broward Horne)
Subject:      Airline Madness!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:06:31 MST
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          I feel fine

              I feel GOOD!

          I'm feeling like I never should


          Whenever I get this way

              I have airfare to pay

          Thank God the rates aren't the same

              As they were yesterday!


          Every time I hear you calling

              I get down on my knees and pray

          I'm waiting for that FINAL airfare

              And a phone bill that I can afford to pay


      Ahhhh.  Another day in the College!

         Every vending machine, a banquet
           Every tuition, a fortune
             Every class, an eternity

      Why on EARTH should I get a real job?!
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Keywords: encourage friendship?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:49:52 GMT

In article <14521@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.041726.9502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>|In article <1992Sep9.031954.18169@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bathsheba.Grossman@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:
>|>In article <72095@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>|>>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>|>>>Still, the best compliments are paid in private (now if I can just get
>|>>>Bathsheba and Stef in private for a few compliments...).
>|>...
>|>>I'll come if Sheba does.
>|>
>|>A generous suggestion.  How are your Gazongas? perhaps we won't have
>|>to bother with Tryg at all & could just compliment one another.
>|
>|Well, if you won't let me practice the art of sincere appreciation upon
>|you (I have to keep in practice or risk losing my status as 
>|"silver-tongued devil"), hopefully you'll at least give me a chance to
>|set up the video cameras.  
> 
>If you do, I also have some videos recently taken from a tree near a freshly
>mowed lawn.  Perhaps we can discuss a trade. 
>
>We'll if Sheba keeps on rejecting your appreciative prose you can join
>Larry, Larry, James, and I for an evening of babe scamming.  
Over at Sheba's.
 
I neglected Aloyisius/Alawishus/Aluwhishes jontai ploo ma rae.
He proudly misspells!



 
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From: morton@cali.rtp.dg.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why do the lurkers / so furiously lurk together?
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:26:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: dg-rtp.1992Sep5.052613.25333
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

[ mega amounts deleted wrt lurkers; lurking ]
Admittedly having no clue, but gathering that "lurker" means
a " read only " network user .. ??  Is there a glossary somewhere ??
What is the accepted phrase for someone who does not post, but
emails directly , in response to posts ?
Also , in the event anyone is feeling prolific, what is the word for
completely unsolicited and absolutely out of line , sometimes
incoherent email , in response to posts ?
From: pdsmith@bbn.com (Peter D. Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Cooking for 1!
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:11:34 GMT
Reply-To: pdsmith@spca.bbn.com (Peter D. Smith)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

>In article <ewillims.715512518@unix1.tcd.ie>, ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>|> 	But one of the best things about cooking (if you really enjoy it)
>|> is that it relaxes you, especially after a long day at work. Just pottering
	       ^^^^^^^

I find the "success" part of cooking the best.  After a long day of failing
links and answering bizzare and unfathomable questions (not from you, Dawn!),
it's nice to know that at the end of the day the bread *will* rise.

Although I regret to say that my gravy-making attempts have been mediocre
at best.  Gravy is supposed to hide the taste of the meat, not the other way
around!

				Peter D. Smith
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: leg shaving
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:41:41 GMT

In article <18mbfaINN29f@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.190134.29178@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt) writes:
> 
> 
> What I often wonder about, is that as men get older, some/most have thinning of
> the hair on their head, the an increase in the hair on their backs and chests. 
> Any logical reason for this?
> 
> 
> Rachel
> 
> "Supergoof"
> 
>    - -
>    O O
>     >
>    \_/

I don't know about logical, but I think in my case it is the same hair that I
have always had, it just slid off my forehead and down my neck.  If I could 
only find a way to pin it in place...

Larry
From: dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: the human palette of emotions
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:22:42 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University


 I was wondering if humans have a finite set of emotions, or
 if we can invent new ones.

 After considering it for a while I think no new emotions
 (love, sadness, etc.) have been invented or recorded for
 maybe several hundred, or possibly thousands of years.

 If this is true why? Has our "right brain" development
 stopped completely?

 Comments?
 Flames?

 dave
From: svissa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sirish Vissa)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:25:17 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <14657@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.223037.26673@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>|Trygve   (Actually, I did once have a guest who had a real thing for
[ stuff deleted ]
>"Men like women that know how to drive a stick."
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Hear Hear,
   or is it 
  Here Here
    Oh anyway, you get the picture.
Michele Mouton and Lynn St.James all the way.
      sirish

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From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: E.W. - Weddings....
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 02:36:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <ewillims.716297719@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>
>Yes, but the point I am trying to make is this.......
>If a person has left Ireland, with very little intention of coming back, 
>and no longer pays taxes, etc, then *it is _unfair_ for them to claim 
>Irish citizenship*.   If people are unwilling to take the bad with the 
>good, (i.e. and stay in Ireland), then it is unfair for them to still 
>take advantage of the good.  
 
On the contrary. Perhaps my perspective is different, living here among
the 'wild geese,' but I beg to differ.
 
Most of the Irish emigrants who I know saw their choice as either 
emigration or 'the dole.' Their refusal to take the dole is their
contribution, and their taxes. They pay further taxes in the pain
of their homesickness.
 
Most of the ones I know also intend (or intended, before they lost the
hope) to return "with money in store." Alas, few ever make it. 

Such has been the lot of the youth of Ireland for more than a century.
 
It strikes me as particularly cynical to begrudge them their franchise.
 
Greg
From: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG (Larry 'Purple' Hays)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: BOINK! BalloonBoink, Coming soon!
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG
Organization: New Mexico Technet   Albuquerque, NM

In article <72202@apple.Apple.COM>, stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG (Larry 'Purple' Hays) writes:
>
>>In article <72060@apple.Apple.COM>, stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>
>>>Will there be CartoonCharacterBalloon Fu?
>
>>Yes, YES YES!!  Oh *GOD* **YES**!!  (what is CartoonCharacterBalloon Fu,
>>grasshoper?  Does it have buddha-nature?)
>
>>   "SShhhhhhhhh.  Be vewy vewy quiet.  I'm hunting wabbits."  - E. Fudd
>
>Joe Bob describes the best fights in the movies he reviews as <description
>of fight> Fu. So ChartoomCharacterBalloon Fu would be a balloon shaped like 
>Elmer Fudd hunting down a balloon shaped like Bugs Bunny, and .....
>Sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So, I've been unmasked as OneWhoMakesReferencesToThatWhichHe'sNeverSeen.  (Fu?)

How deflating.  Sorry, I guess I didn't keep an adequate tether on my mischeif
and I got carried away.  So here I am, parading my ignorance on the net for
all to see.  I never shoulda tried to float that one in the first place.
What an airhead.

>Mu!

Alright, who brought the cow?  Well, he can stay if he'll Just Sit.

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Larry 'Purple' Hays                                        hays@technet.nm.org

              "But the road was long and home was far,
               So I stopped off at this little cowboy-lookin' bar,
               walked on through the door and she just smiled.
               In a long ponytail and a purty white dress
               she said "Hi, Bull riders do it best."
               I said "Oh my God, what's your name?  My name's Lyle."

               Oooh, give back my heart chip kicker redneck woman
               Take your boots and walk out of my life.
               Oooh, give back my heart chip kicker redneck woman,
               I can't be no cowgirl's paradise."    
                                                      - Lyle Lovett
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Can you accept criticism ?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 08:24:08 GMT

>>
>>							Ross Ridge
>>
>>ross@zooid.guild.org (Ross Ridge) writes:
>>
>>fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>>
>>>This reminds me of something else - who can take criticism (constructive
>>>criticism that is) without getting upset ?
>>
>>No one I've noticed.
>>
>>>An even better question, how does one give constructive criticism
>>>without it coming across as a personal attack ?
>>
Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>I don't worry about how it comes across, I just try be honest. 

>btw, you shouldn't put a space before a question mark (?) at the
>end of a sentence.

dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson) writes:
>I believe that what Ross meant to say here was: Excuse me, Fred,
>but I believe you accidentally put a space before the question
>mark at the end of your sentence.  I know you wouldn't have done
>that on purpose, since that would be incorrect grammar, and I'm
>really sorry to have to point it out, but I felt you might want
>to correct it, since it was obviously an accident.

No, I honestly don't believe it was an accident.

>Or perhaps: Geez, Fred, only complete and utter morons are stupid
>enough to put spaces before their question marks.

Now this is closer to the truth...

							Ross Ridge

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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Intelligence vs Smart Alec (Was: Various ramblings...)
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:00:07 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa

In article <1992Sep3.163409.8815@wetware.com>, diana@wetware.com (CatWoman) writes:

> "Since it seems we're going to have an early Fall,
> maybe there will be some draught relief this year".
>
> Possible response #1:

   Try closing the window.  That should provide draught relief.  But
don't you spell it "draft" in the U.S.A.?  :-)

> "No, not really. Typically an early wet season leads
> to a short season and then a dry winter".
>
> (this said in a tone of voice of "I know what I'm
> talking about, and I'm never wrong" )

   Well, most people have some expertise in a few areas.  If spoken by
a climatologist, the above wouldn't bother me.

> Needless to say, response #1 is what happened in the
> conversation - and it is the reason I don't tend to
> talk to the person much, because just about everything
> I say gets negated.  It's never even given any
> consideration - and this attitude can be VERY irritating.

   People who seem to think they're experts on *everything* certainly
do bother me.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Sex & Moose & Wolf (was Re: Desperation
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:23:37 GMT

In <1992Sep12.182307.10715@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:


>However, the human sense of smell is better than most people realize (mine
>is somewhat impaired due to genetic factors and sinus problems, hence my
>interest), and people detect and respond to pheromones without being aware
>of them.  They also respond to dilated pupils as well as responding with
>either dilated or contracted pupils to visual stimuli.


	In fact, in experiments where a subject was shown two identical
photos of a woman (in one of the pictures, she had dilated pupils) he
thought she was more attractive in the photo with dilated pupils 
without realising why.... [cf.Desmond Morris, Manwatching].
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: E.W. - Weddings....
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:00:38 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:

>Well, after having had a totally wild weekend, I've come to
>the conclusion that Trygve is right!  Weddings are a great way
>to meet new people and renew old acquaintances.
[...]
>There is something about a wedding that makes complete strangers
>drop their normal reserve and talk to each other.  I made lots
>of new friends, including more single unattached males than I've
>ever seen before in one place!
[...]
>My point is, if you are ever invited to such an occasion, don't
>decide not to go as you won't know anyone there or because you don't
>have a date to bring.  It is a great opportunity to meet new people!

I am in full agreement with Emma. Weddings are the best environment for
scamming. "It's gotta be da shoes!"

I no longer bring a date to any weddings, or agree to be anyone's date at
one. A wedding date invariably dampens my good time to some degree. Typical:
 - You're not paying any attention to me.
 - I know. My friends are more interesting.

Additionally, I think that unless you're really secure in a relationship -
either at the very casual or very serious level - a wedding date puts undue
"perceived" pressure on the relationship, as you try to outguess any "meaning"
to the date's circumstances.

Addendum: I'm shocked at the mainstream nature of Emma's article. What up with
that?

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From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:34:35 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes) writes:

>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

>> So you're saying these women want to be like men, so they buy Porsches in
>> order to compete for females?

>No.  But I'd be willing to bet that a lot of Porsche-driving women
>covet a secretary to do their typing and a maid to dust the
>knickknacks on their mantles.

Personally, I want a sex kitten to wield the feather duster, and a 
PostScript laser printer to do my typing. 

--
Stef               "I'll see your curmudgeon-ness and raise you by two
stef@apple.com      cynicisms.  Call."
                   "3 sarcasms."
                   "Well, I've got an angry flush.  You lose.  Pay up."
                                                                      SJ/LH
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From: chapin@cbnewsc.cb.att.com ( Tom Chapin )
Subject: Re: soc.singles #64637 - Re: Desperation
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:43:36 GMT

Marcia Bednarcyk writes:
>Kiran Wagle writes:
>|> Do you think there's something wrong with people who feel that they
>|> (or their lives) are not complete without a (happy) relationship?
>
>Do you think there's something right with this?


Yes.



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	     tom chapin                tjc@hrcce.att.com
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