HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: and stuff.. as always..
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:36:05 GMT
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center

Gypsy walks over to the chalk board to view Manx's
Tom Swifties.  My in-laws are all crazy about this
form of word play.  Let's see.  She leans down and
adds another line below Manx's

"We can tie up at either pier", said Tom, paradoxically.

If this goes on, I will probably remember others...  Say,
Mike, better make sure the peanut supply is topped up!

Rowan (Gypsy Woman)

Rowan Fairgrove
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject: Re: John comes in with what he beleives to be an important message.
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:13:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.022521.10276@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer) writes:

[much good stuff deleted]

>     John drains the southern comfort he's collected from
>Nightstalker (you really ought to pick a shorter nickname. . .
>how about NS?)  (BTW, sorry about the 'Nighty'  It's more a
>natural shortening of your name; I'd forgotten Carole's post by
>the time I'd used it.)  and takes a deep breath.  Somone hands
>him a cold Samuel Adams, which he also drains, his throat very
>dry.

"I am not worried about it, tis cool."

>     "To love and understanding!"  he shouts, and his glass
>shatters in the fireplace.
>
>     "And to Callahans. . . may it return, and last forever!"  he
>calls, and adds the mug to the mound in the fireplace.
>
"Aye, I second the toast."

<crash>

--
The Nightstalker.....



"There is a fine line between clever and stupid."  -  Spinal Tap

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:27:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.184804.2456@ttinews.tti.com> hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
>
>"That's the distinction that separates science from faith.  The faithful
>only seek evidence to support their position.  They never seek to disprove
>it and would consider it blasphemous to do so.  Science constantly tests
>and attempts to disprove what it knows in its quest for better
>understanding of what is."

     Please don't lump all people with faith in one category, please.


-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher 
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: Re: Responsibilities of Artists (was Re: Pornography and Playboy)
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:18:22 GMT

>> Wow, you folks are optomistic!  Me, I believe that people must be taught how
>> to reason, how to think logically, how to separate propaganda from facts.

>The fundamental problem here is that outside the realm of science (hard
>physical science) fact and propoganda are almost totally inseperable.
>Propoganda can be entirely made up of fact, but it may be fact
>with a selective awareness.  I, myself, for example, would suggest
>that all history is propoganda.

	"I'm still inclined to say that propaganda is what happens
when someone values a particular viewpoint or idea above truth.  There
are plenty of honest people in every field who are seriously
attempting to discover the truth about whatever it is they're
studying.  Naturally, they bring known and hidden biases to the work
they do, but I don't think it's fair to simply dismiss every
conclusion as simply a collection of biases, which is what `all
history is propaganda' suggests to me.

	"Conversely, I think that you overestimate the objectivity of
`hard physical sciences'-- or rather, of hard physical scientists.
Consider the resistance with which a paradigm shift tends to be
greeted-- conventional wisdom says that a real change in perspective
only comes as the older generation dies off and is replaced by the
next, which then has its own arteries hardened when the next big shift
comes along.  Consider how long the data which went into constructing
chaos theory were ignored as `experimental error' and `noise'.
Consider how long astronomers believed in the canals of Mars.  Soft
sciences don't have a corner on people seeing what they expect to see,
nor do hard sciences have a corner on hard data-- the existence of the
Roman Empire is as hard a fact as the existence of the far side of the
Moon.  Hard sciences _do_ have tools for interpreting data which soft
sciences lack: repeatable experiments, certain types of math, and so
on.  For this reason, they can be made to give more reliable
predictions about unknown cases, and it can be easier to falsify a
theory in a hard science than in a soft.  But in both cases, one is
dealing, mostly, with people attempting to find out facts about some
aspect of the world.  Because they're people, they'll sometimes see
what they want to see, but I think relatively few will see _only_ what
they want to see, which is how I'd characterize propaganda."

Michael
-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Workers of the world, forgive me.
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 You had more to lose than I thought."
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Karl Marx (1990) as imagined by
mss2@usite-next.uchicago.edu     Jim Koncz (konc@midway.uchicago.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jcj9536@tamsun.tamu.edu (Cindy Brown)
Subject: Re: The New Kid
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:28:11 GMT

Aslan listens as Tigger plots to get the delegation from Ohio to take over
Callahans and decides it is time to stick her mane back in for a second.

I have been lurking for a few days trying to decide if I should post
again...It seems like years since I have been here. Hello Tigger and Aahz
and anyone else who remembers me :) I just thought I would share some good
news.  Remember that vampire I was always hanging around...Yber...
Well about two months ago..May 15th to be exact we got married... :)
We are still at A&M. He is still himself. And I am still very excited to be
his wife:).  I guess I will just hang around here again... I miss this
place :).

Aslan
    

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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 04:14:57 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

Yes, I *do* know that Michael's a lawyer (or studying to be one, I can
never remember which).  I just stuck this in a separate post to see how
many people's itchy 'r' and 'f' fingers don't bother reading follow-ups
first.....
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Babbage's Birthday Bargain Bash -- December 26th, 1992
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Subject: Re: The New Kid
Reply-To: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:01:45 +0000

bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder) writes:
>The New Kid peers uncertainly in the sudden light after her dark corner. 
>She clears her throat.
>"Ahem. Yeah, I'm another unlurker(sp?). There seem to be a lot of us
>lately. In Real Life I'm Bernadette Sacksteder, a summer worker at the
>local Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio. I work at a computer help desk, or
>pretend to anyway.:-)"
>She walks up to the bar, pulling a crumpled bill out of her pocket.
>"Uh, Mike, could I have a Lemon Sling?"

"One Lemon. One Sling. That'll be one dollar please." :-)

Sorry couldn't resist that one! 

"Hello, Bernadette, and welcome to Callahan's! Care to talk?"

Alan Ralph <-> Kimberley MonTemplar
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: ssnodgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Steve Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: The New Kid
Date: 26 Jul 92 01:32:47 EST
Organization: UT Student Union Board

> I have been lurking for a few days trying to decide if I should post
> again...It seems like years since I have been here. Hello Tigger and Aahz
> and anyone else who remembers me :) I just thought I would share some good
> news.  Remember that vampire I was always hanging around...Yber...
> Well about two months ago..May 15th to be exact we got married... :)
> We are still at A&M. He is still himself. And I am still very excited to be
> his wife:).  I guess I will just hang around here again... I miss this
> place :).

"Cindy!  Welcome back.  I had heard you'd been married.  Congratulations!
 I hope all is going well."

"I don't post here too often but my email box is always open."

 -Tigger

<*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*>
Steve Snodgrass == just some weird guy == SSNODGR@uoft02.utoledo.edu == Tigger
"Hugs are like good friends - they make you feel wonderful and you can never
 have too many." -me   {Cult Rock Fan - Rush,Yes,Jethro Tull,Styx,Pink Floyd}
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: A return
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:13:55 GMT


>>"does DM have cold hands?  }:).....i am totally crushed..."  giggles
>>kitten... 

>Danger Mouse glances in kitten's direction (not hard, considering she is
>still feeding him chocolates (or at least I hope she is!)) and opines,
>"_I_ have cold hands? No, no, no... Shonias is the one with the cold
>hands... as she demonstrated this morning*..."

>DM grins and attempts to tickle kitten in the ribs.

"ack!  eek! squeal!  tickles !  and after i have fed you a ton of
chocolate... the ingratitude!"  kitten gasps, chokes, giggles and
tries to look indignant...failing completely!

"well, shonias must remember the old saying...'cold hands, warm
heart'... unlike some MICE i will not name....:)"

(you know i am teasing....but just wait....one of these days i will
sneak up on you when you least expect it....then you'll be sorry!)

>* At 10am, after we'd both arrived at university. Why, what did _you_
>think I meant??  :-)
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A return
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:51:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

kitten:

>>>and i tend toward cold hands and COLD feet...(my feet have ALMOST 
>>>gotten me kicked out of bed on occasion...that's why i sleep in sox 
>>>(like the fox) in winter." 

StM:

>>StM (rather predictably) says, "You know, that's one of the symptoms....
>>I know, I know, this gets rather tiresome.  But, Barbara, have you
>>ever asked a doctor about this?  I STILL (after having been diagnosed
>>[and treated] as a diabetic) don't know why my temperature tends to
>>average about 2 degrees Fahrenheit below average).

>Lynn joins the conversation.

Lynn:

>"Fascinating.  My temperature runs a couple of degrees Fahrenheit below
>average, too!  I was diagnosed as having "reactive hypoglycemia" by a
>doctor who, alas, has since retired.  She said my sympoms were so
>classic she didn't feel a need to test me.  I don't get the cold hands
>and cold feet, though."

kitten:

"well, i officially have "asymptomatic somethingorother" (i can't
remember what the nutritionist said) means that it is official...i am
treating for hypoglycemia but i don't have it...i am also treating for
athritis (non-specific joint discomfort) but i don't have that either
(and i am taking something besides the stuff i was taking
before--since the stuff i was taking before was (literally) making me
crazy... i found out by reading "woman's day" magazine that it
COULD...so my doctor changed my medication!  [however, this has not
helped the ongoing PMS problem.....]

(does the above sound like i am a hypochondriac...or just falling
apart :)   )"

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:36:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.224615.7635@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
>	"I think that these semantic points can only lead to a total
>breakdown of communication between the two points of view.  Yes, yes,
>there's no such thing as pro-lifers-- and there's no such thing as
>pro-choice, just a bunch of baby-killers trying to escape the
>consequences of their permissive ethos.  Fun, huh?  And unjust, as we
>all know quite well, but certainly guaranteed to produce lots of heat
>and no light.  I think we're better off accepting the reasonably
>neutral-positive names of pro-choice and pro-life rather than getting
>into name calling, which tagging a group with a name it would rather
>not have tends to be:  "You're not really pro-life!"  "Am too, am
>too!"  "Are not, are not!"
>
>  Most of it's members are only
>>>too happy to vote in favor of the death penalty for 15 year old sociopaths
>>>who started out as unwanted children.
>
>	"The death penalty and abortion are really seperate issues, as
>witness the fact that there are plenty of people who are pro-life and
>pro-death penalty, and as many who are pro-choice and anti-death
>penalty.

Fine.  Then why can't we call a spade a spade and describe the so-called
"pro-lifers" as being anti-abortion, if they're also willing to support the
death penalty?
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Galileo re: even more...
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:22:40 GMT
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway



"Hmm. Galileo is making a close fly-by of Earth ? We are only 300
miles up, and as much as I would like to kick the antenna loose on
Galileo, I would rather kick a designer or two..." DJ. :-) :-) :-)

  Sorry, but I think Galileo is too far away, and moving faster than
the orbital speeds we are doing. At least I think Galileo is going
faster than 17,000 mph.  These suits just don't have the impulse
needed to go to that much of a higher orbit. Later...


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Cmp Sci
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "True friends are a good beyond compare!" me. <- { for SEA and Didi.}
From: /G=Rhodri/S=James/O=SJ-Research/ADMD=INTERSPAN/C=GB/@MHS-RELAY.AC.UK
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Why I react he way I do to some...
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:23:28 GMT

hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:

>"That's the distinction that separates science from faith.  The faithful
>only seek evidence to support their position.  They never seek to disprove
>it and would consider it blasphemous to do so.  Science constantly tests
>and attempts to disprove what it knows in its quest for better
>understanding of what is."

That's not entirely true, though I suppose it is an accurate idealisation of
the situation.  In practise, both proof and disproof are part of the
scientific method, with the disproof aspect being more important, and
likewise belief and doubt are both part of faith, with belief being the more
important.  It's not *quite* as black and white as you paint it.

---
Windsinger  -  Rhodri James    *  "If hot food is what you're cravin'
                               *   No throat lining's worth the savin'
Rhodri.James%gb.INTERSPAN.sj   *   If your stomach's got you ravin'
            @mhs-relay.ac.uk   *   Come into the Curry Queen!"
   or                          *
rmj10@phx.cam.ac.uk            *               -- Me
From: rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:27:44 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <LGOLD.92Jul29152130@callahans.Cadence.COM> lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) writes:
>A tiny voice cries out from the back.
>
>"It's time for the 'Attack from the Killer Lick Monster!'"
>
>Fuzzball scurries up to Nathan, jumps onto his lap, and proceeds to
>lick him mercilessly.


  "Ack!   <slurp!>

  "Yes...<slurp!>...hello Fuzzball...<slurp!>...uh huh,
  I love you too...<slurp!>...now please...<slurp!>...
  ..good dog...<slurp!>...please...<slurp!>...just stop
  ...<slurp!>...please...

  "Anybody got a towel?"

>--Lynn

  Nathan.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: { long ! } more re: SEA takes a ride...
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:35:37 GMT


 'whew !'

   "SEA would you care to roller skate ?" DJ

   "Up here !?!" SEA.

   "Well, yes. We have roller skates, portable space suits, a car
we can return to when we get tired," DJ.

   "Are you certain ?" SEA.

   "Oh yes ! These suits are clear, they have protection against
the sun, but someone else wearing one can see the person not just
the surface shields. So, if there were more than two of us wearing
them, all could see who was in the other suits and wouldn't need
to ask. Wearers of these suits see the other wearers in their
'street' clothes, not space suits. The skates are in the backseat.
Just reach back and grab a pair, they will fit your suit. " DJ

  "I didn't put a suit on when I got in the car !" SEA.

  "Well, its automatic, "DJ.

  "A little too far from Radio Free Colorado, but a request I'll
make for R.E.M. singing 'Orange Crush.' " DJ.

  "Spider ! Slow to orbital speed, top down. We have our skates
on. Locater devices on ! SEA, if we get separated, just ask Spider
or me to locate you. Usually I'm the one that gets lost though...
We are ready Spider !" DJ.

{ Don't look down ! } Spider...

"How far up are we ?" SEA.

"Oh, about 300 miles. Some air friction, but the suits are capable
of boosting up to 700 miles from the Earth's surface. You could
even land on the Earth, if needed." DJ.

"Hmm. When I said let's have FUN ! I don't know if I meant to be
in low-earth-orbit." SEA.

"Actually, neither did I, but I think we will have fun here, " DJ.

"First one to that satellite is the winner !" SEA.

"Alright !" DJ.

<zooooooom    skate, skate, rolla rolla >

"Wheeeeeeeee !" DJ.

 "This is FUN !, but where is the skating surface." SEA.


  <zoooooooom> SEA.

  <zoooooom> DJ.

  "Wherever your skates are placed, so logically you could skate
'upside-down' ! Not that there is a 'down' or 'up' here, but
the skates are designed to accept the bottom of your feet as 'down'.
Hmm, a little confusing, even to me, but once you get used to it,
it works okay." DJ.

 "I beat you !" SEA.


 "Okay, you beat me to the satellite, lets see if you can beat me
around the earth..." DJ.


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Cmp Sci
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "At least my initials aren't Dan Quayle." me
From: rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Weird stuff
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:44:26 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <LGOLD.92Jul29170507@callahans.Cadence.COM> lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) writes:
>In article <Brw9AH.1DL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>
>>lynn:
>
>>>"The 8am headliner on the morning news was 'Gilroy Has Clydesdale Poop
>>>Race.'
>
>>>"I'm not making this up!  They're having some kind of event where they
>>>walk these horses, the horses defacate, and if you're ticket matches
>>>the marker where the biggest piece of horse poop lands, you win $2500.!
>
>>>"Of course, if I'd have titled this message 'Horse sh*t,' whod've
>>>believed I meant it literally?" :-)
>
>>"hi lynn....it is a form of bingo...they do it with cows too...at the
>>the cow version is called "cow chip bingo...."
>
>>kitten got this info from rita mae brown's book _bingo_ ....
>
>One of the side-effects of working in radio is that you often wind up
>doing promotional events.  On one of the stations where I do traffic,
>the DJs (but luckily not the traffic people) get recruited to
>participate in a "cow chip toss."
>
>Yes, it's for real.  They toss cow chips across a field; whoever's
>chip lands farthest away wins.  I don't know WHAT they win, but they win.
>
>--Lynn
>--

This reminds me of something that happened to me a few months ago.

I was at a local SCA event, and a few friends and I decided to go
on a boat ride up a little creek flowing through the back of the site.
Now, of the four people who got into this little tiny rowboat, the
smallest person much have weighed about 180 pounds. (and it wasn't me)

Well, it seems that we were spotted by the rest of the barony, and
because the boat was riding low (very low) in the water, they decided
to try and sink us.  There we were, four innocents (ha!) being attacked
by about thirty people hurling large stones into the water near the sides
of our dingy.

Well, we weren't going to stand for this kind of treatment, after all,
the baroness was in the boat with us.  So, we kicked said baroness out
of the boat to get ammunition for our side to pelt the rebels.  So,
having one of the most devious minds in the kingdoms, she decided to
have us fling cow chips instead of stones.

Loaded up, we cautiously paddled back downstream, into the range of
the rebels.  A cry was raised by a sentry set to keep watch for us, and
pretty soon the meadow was filled with the enemy.  But, before they
could gather rocks to bomb us with, we started our attack, four
grown people throwing slightly damp cow chips at a mob.

Our plan worked, and we won the day, and safely returned our baroness
to shore.  (Later that night, rebel leaders were attacked with water
balloons to pay for their tratiorous deeds.)

And that is the story of the Peasant Rebellion of Bjornsborg, and
how it was quelled by the defenders of Baroness Mari.

Three cheers for Master Ragnar Ufgarson, Lady Gunnora Hallakava, and
milord Giovanni (me).
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Strange Question
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:12:38 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia

> [Aahz:]
>On the other hand, let us assume that we're inside a metal spaceship,
>which could vibrate in response to the shockwave.  How big an explosion
>would be required for us to hear then?

Danger Mouse considers for a second. "You probably would never actually
_hear_ the shockwave. It would do nasty things like physically shake the
ship, and you'd be able to hear that when things start flying around and
being generally tossed like a salad.

"Now, as to the strength of shockwave you'd need to shake a ship
noticeably, can I get back to you on that one? I'll ask some folks here
who deal with shockwaves and try to get some figures out of them."

- Danger Mouse.
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