From: lindsley@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: A SERIOUS new newsgroup suggestion...
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:13:04 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1669@tnc.UUCP>, m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS) writes:
> 
> I don't like the idea of splitting up rec.arts.anime.  There has been
> an incredible amount of traffic these past few days, but there isn't
> on a regular basis.  Some days, 150 new messages...other days, almost
> nothing.

  Not everyone gets posts punctually. If you are not hooked up to the
primary backbone feed, they will spool a couple of days worth of messages
up and THEN send you the entire package. Our system (here) gets the posts
regularly (ie. when I finish typeing this message. there will probably be
another new post waiting...) and believe me, it is about 50 posts/day
on the average. IF you are on the mailing list version of this, you don't
have the problem of missing posts (you just get 150+ Messages to read thru).
Those of us on the regular system have all of the posts placed in one area,
with a limit on how many will be preserved for any one newsgroup. For our
system, that is about 200 to 250 posts. In less that 5 days, everything is New. 

Also, people keep talking about splitting up the conversations (threads) into
different newsgroups. THIS IS NOT WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING. I said that the new
GROUP would be for sysopsis/translations/fan-fiction and similar ilk. These
are not threads, but stand alone things. They would supplement r.a.a., not
take things away. Maybe we should call it r.a.a.Appendix (like in a book)
because thats what I was thinking its function would be most like.

 
>  
> Plus not everyone will have access to any spinoff newsgroups.

  Usually, people get access to things lower down on the tree if you get access
to its parents.(ie r.a.startrek readers usually get access to r.a.s.* branches)
(if anyone knows different, please tell me.) As long as we make the name
r.a.a.??????, I think things will be fine. But I can be wrong, and I think it
is something to be aware of. 

Speaking of things to be aware of, some of the private Email I have been sent
has indicated the possiblility that a counter-proposal to rename r.a.a. could
be made should we ask for a new branch, but it has also been indicated that
it will surely fail IF the r.a.a. subscribers (a majority, I assume) do not
wish it. Since I have no desire to see r.a.a. get renamed, I want to make sure
that I have at least that support before I take this idea past the discussion
stage. Be assured that I will not do anything without it.

On another point, several people have indicated that they would prefer
someone in particular for the Moderator of this new branch. If this is case
for anyone else, please send in their preference. IF this proposal gets off
of the ground, the I will ask someone to hold an election for the new
newsgroups moderator. But I am getting ahead of myself. We haven't even 
definitly decided if we WANT to create this new newsgroup.

Please keep the comments/suggestions coming.

    - Erik

P.S.:If you think that any part of your comment/suggestion would be useful
to others or further the discussion (for OR against), please make those 
parts public posts and sent the rest to me privatly. I'm not tring to 
discurage private comments, but I instead, I just  prefer open and up
front conversations with all parties involved. And don't worry about offending
me. I've got really tough skin.