HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: akcs.husty@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Ali Persian Momeni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Rev. J difference, STRANGE!
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:40:03 GMT

Hi all,
     Today I was playing with a rev E and a rev. J (at the same time),
and I found something very weird:  I was in the equation editor, and 
knowing that the J is faster at deleting chars, I put in a BIG sumnation
expression and fine, the J was faster at deleting, but then I evalutated 
the two, identical expressions; I got two VERY different answeres.
(it was the sume of (5*x^2*ln(x)/sin(x)) as x goes from 1 to 100, don't
ask why.  The answeres were like this: -1700 or so for J and 19000 or so
for the E). So there you go.
     
     Other differencers that I noticed is that 1) the J screen is more
wavy, i.e. it flicks more, 2) when the J is turned on, some garbage
comes on the screen momentarily everynow and then, that never happend to
me on an E.

     Any one else see some other stuff?

ali.    momeni@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: fokp@vccnorthe.its.rpi.edu (Ben Fok the "lemming")
Subject: question about library
Keywords: question about library
Reply-To: fokp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:27:38 GMT

Can anbody explain to me how to use a library?  I got a tetris lib but I don't how to attach it to the user memory.
Thanks.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:51:54 EST
From: <3406037@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: ANOVA programs

   I'm looking for some simple statistical programs that I can run on my
hp48s.  I am most interested in something that could calculate an F statistic
like that in the analysis of variance (ANOVA).  Can anyone point me
in the right direction?


            Thank you

            Paul Freeman
            3406037@qucdn.queensu.ca

right direction, I
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams)
Subject: Re: HP48S vs. HP48SX
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University Observatory
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:30:26 GMT

In article <TSLOPEZ.93Jan21225010@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu> tslopez@mcs.Drexel.edu writes:
>Nothing personal, but I have to agree. If you're going to spend the $150 for
>an HP why not go the extra $90 or so and get something with a future. 32k
>is simply not enough for something with the power of a 48s. I am glad I have

It's not an extra $90. By the time you've bought a 128K card to put in
that expensive slot, you've doubled the cost of the calculator. Is it
worth it to you to pay twice as much to increase the memory by 5 times?

Michael W.
(Who has SX, CMT 128K, rev A eqn lib, and would have bought an SX even
if the S had been available at the time.)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: gunawan@envmsa.eas.asu.edu 
Subject: *** HP IR Printer for sale ***
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords:  HP
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:50:00 GMT

FOR SALE: HP 82204A Infrared Printer in mint condition.

Asking $45 (shipping included)

If you're interested, please contact: 

     Leo
     Email: sie_0148@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ME!
From: s635467@rhds12.rz.fht-esslingen.de (KAISER THORSTEN            )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Help! Can't transfer from PC-hp48
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:01:31 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Esslingen
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhds12.rz.fht-esslingen.de

Hi Steven,

When I tried to communicate between my PC and HP48 the first time I had the
same problems. First of all I thought of bugs in my cable which I made myself,
but I was wrong. After a lot of retries I tried an update version of KERMIT in
my PC and --> PC and HP48 are now communicating in a way which best friends 
do!!! 

So try it with an update KERMIT version. But don't ask me why this is so!?

CU
   Thorsten   ;-)


Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp48:7319 comp.sys.palmtops:4519
From: bes38869@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Bard Duelak   )
Subject: New, in the box 95LX's for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:22:47 GMT

      I have three new, never used, in the box HP 95LX's with
 1 Mb of Ram, plus the Connectivity packs from HP for PCs.
 Like I said, they are new, and still have a factory warranty.
      EduCalc sells the 95 w/1Mb for $589, and the Connectivity
 packs for $79.95.  I want to get rid of these, and am selling
 the 95 w/ the pack for $540 a piece.  If interested, please send
 E-mail to bes38869@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu .

 -  Blair

-- 
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|       Univesity of Illinois         |  heard about it before ?"......      |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: ukjent@kih (Ukjent person)
Subject: Re: Calculus package
Organization: kih
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:35:29 GMT

In article <2b48f084.2559comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.mcannon@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Matthew A. Cannon) writes:
>      I just had a friend who purchased the EE package for his
>hp48.  I believe HP made the kit.  It contains a ROM card and some
>reference material and retails around $89.  He told me that they have
>kits for Calculus and since I am just getting my feet wet with the 
>48, I was wondering if anyone out there was familiar with these HP
>kits, especially the Calculus one, and was willing to offer their 
>two bits.  Thanks in advance..

>                                             Matt
>     
Calculus Math I: 128KB 1st year college math
Integration, functions, differential equations, algebra,
Aplications, series, 2D curves, complex numbers, linear equations,
numerical methods
Calculus Math II: 128KB 2nd year college math
Linear algebra with systems of diff.equations, Laplace transforms,
Fourier series, Probability, statistics, numerical methods
Odd Bringslid ISV, P.B 1014 3601 Kongsberg NORWAY 
Phone + 47 3 738840 (creator of CALCULUS)
From: sohn@Apple.COM (a phil sohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP Demo card
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:08:08 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


	According to EduCalc HP has discontinued the HP48 demo card,
a 128k ROM card that was selling for $9. Does anyone know how might
still have these in stock? Heck, I'd even pay the $15 suggested
retail for it.

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	a phil sohn		sohn@apple.com
				sohn@applelink.apple.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: d91-jda@nilen.nada.kth.se (Johan Danielsson)
Subject: Re: Lightning
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<C1G4rq.Eqo@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:57:08 GMT

jgreff@plains.NoDak.edu (Jason Greff) writes:
> gt2841c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2841c) writes:
> >I'm sure someone out there has had this concern:
> >
> >If my HP is connected to a PC with the serial cable adaptor,
> >and a lightning-induced surge hits the PC, isn't it likely
> >that my poor little baby will be toasted?
> 
> Answer : I don't know, but if you don't plug your PC into a surge
> protector you are playing with fire in the first place, so the question is
> moot.

Why do you want the lightning to hit your PC anyway? :)

--

| d91-jda@nada.kth.se   | Their hearts were or fire, but they were cloaked
| Johan Danielsson      | in darkness and terror went before them.
From: rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: HP48S vs. HP48SX
Date: 24 Jan 1993 05:32:22 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation
NNTP-Posting-Host: spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <1993Jan23.224527.819@zip.eecs.umich.edu> wild9118@nova (Mark J. Wilder) writes:
>: worth it to you to pay twice as much to increase the memory by 5 times?
>
>Yes.  Purging and Downloading gets QUITE tedious.

Ahhh.. but adding memory (or a bigger hard drive) doesnt eliminate
the need for purging or downloading, it just delays it!!

-- 
rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu; N7YVM/AA, negadittohead, and some other stuff
Disclaimer from Minnesota Public Radio's "What Do You Know":
The opinions expressed here are well thought out and 
insightful and, needless to say, are not those of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: christie@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Chris Tham)
Subject: HP TOOLS Documentation in Word for Windows 2 format available
Organization: Barbie Doll Fashion Consultancy
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:35:16 GMT

I have uploaded to seq.uncwil.edu:/hp48/Uploads the following files:

	HPW4WDOC.ZIP	HP TOOLS Documentation in Word for Windows 2.0a format
	HPLJ2DOC.ZIP	The above as HP LaserJet II print files (A4 size)
	HPLJ3DOC.ZIP	The above as HP LaserJet IIIP print files (A4 size)
	HPPSDOC.ZIP	The above as Apple LaserWriter Plus print files (A4 size)
	HPDOC.TXT	README for the above

If some kind soul wants to generate US letter print files, feel free.
Please mail comments, bug reports, suggestions, flames to me.

christie@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
From: pu001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ( pedro miguel ugalde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: *.Z
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:29:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Hi :
I got the sx with no expantion card, then i tried to put the file sex48pos
into it sending it in binary, at the end it ran out of memory. After that i
tried sending it in ascii the calculator said that some variable
"interesting pos" was not valid or something  how is the rigth way to do
it?.


ps:
sorry for my english i an not english native speaker.

.
From: akcs.alistairl@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Alistair S Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Filenames With Bad Characters
Keywords: files bad characters
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:40:02 GMT

Recently there have been a few programs uploaded to seq. that have
contained "silly" characters ; i.e., those that a Unix does not take too
kindly to. This can be annoying as it may prevent you from viewing the
file or downloading it or make renaming or purging of the file seem
impossible.  However I eventually found a command (in a Unix FAQ) that
will permit purging and/or renaming of such files. There are probably
a few commands that can do this but the one listed below seems to be
quite "powerful" and can handle most things.

===============
Part of the Biweekly Posted FQA form  comp.unix.questions
---------------

2.2)  How do I remove a file with funny characters in the filename ?

find . -type f ... -ok rm '{}' \;

      where "..." is a group of predicates that uniquely identify the
      file.  One possibility is to figure out the inode number of the
      problem file (use "ls -i .") and then use     |
                                                    |
find . -inum 12345 -ok rm '{}' \;                   |
             ^^^^^                                  |
             \\\\\__________________________________/
      or
find . -inum 12345 -ok mv '{}' new-file-name \;

      "-ok" is a safety check - it will prompt you for confirmation of
       the command it's about to execute.  You can use "-exec" instead
       to avoid the prompting, if you want to live dangerously, or if
       you suspect that the filename may contain a funny character
       sequence that will mess up your screen when printed.
==================

A couple of things to note:
Use the first command to remove (rm) the file or use the second to
rename (mv) the file.
Use the on-line Unix manual for more info.

Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: bes38869@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Bard Duelak   )
Subject: Re: some kind of wordprosesor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:58:58 GMT

pu001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ( pedro miguel ugalde) writes:

>does anyone know a way to write text to the hp memory without the hassle of
>program the text, is there a program to do that?


	There is a program called notecard that runs on PC's, and it does
just that.  Type your text with an editor and run the program, and it
turns it into a notecard type format that will scroll across your screen.
	I think seq.uncwil.edu has it (in a comp.sources archive).


--Blair


-- 
|Blair Sandberg, student in | "If paper feathers are all it takes to fly,dont| 
|   Microbiology, at the    | you think we'd have heard about it before?"... | 
|  University of Illinois   | - "It takes an uncommon mind to think of these | 
| bes38869@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | things, Hobbes."          -- Calvin and Hobbes |
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: reset button
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:53:04
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:42:31 GMT

In article <C184Ax.AKE@news.iastate.edu> twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
(Phoenix) writes:

	   I read something about "the reset button is below one
   of the rubber foot on the backside of your hp48SX".  However
   After exam it for 10 minutes, I still can't find it.  (NO,
   I am not blind.  And I have my contacts on too:)  I looked
   around every mm^2 around each foot, nothing was found.
   Then, I opened the battery cap, and saw 5-6 small holes
   .  Are those the reset openings?
	   Thanks!

Pull out the rubber feet nearest the top end of the calculator.
The reset button is under one of them.  The feet are designed to
be taken out and reinserted since they are just pressed into
recessed holes in the case.

--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: pu001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ( pedro miguel ugalde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: rom version ?  and grobs
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:52:08 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


how can i know the rom version of my ROM?
and how do i see the grob pictures?



thanks.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:26:07 CST
From: Viscouse P'pello <U50879@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: d/ling

      Well, I am thinking this person shares my dilemma.  help
Hey there all yew netters...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
Subject: Re: run stuf?
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:09:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.212142.22334@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> pu001b@uhura.cc.roc
>
>I got some programs, libries, grobs, and them when I load them into memory
>they just stay in the stack. how do I run them? or do I transfer them in
>ascii mode instedad? please help.
>thanks.

     I am trying for this to be a request for the end all be all in d/ling prob
lems concerns, etc.   Do people (like me) ask stupid d/l questions because they
haven't read the manual that came with the serial cable kit?  Is it possible
 I made a working serial cable for about $5.00, and some hope.  Is it possible
that someone who has a portion of time, and a large know how of d/l, put togeth
er a faq on d/ling?  If there is one out there already, my apologies.  Send it
to me with appropriate flames, if you could.
     Here is a question to get this thing started.  I know _how_ to d/l u/l, as
 I have been doing it for the better part of 2 months now.  but.  Some files I
pull are in the format "HPHP48-E????????????" where the question marks are
misc. characters. I tried d/l these type of files using ascii and binary,
both on all four trans codes.
     Help in this matter is greatly appreciated, by me and all the unfortunate
souls who share me dilemma.         (d/l = downloading)



         THE SNIPER'S GUILD            '  a.k.a.   Namir Gharaibeh
  "Proud Advocates of Creative Mayhem" '           U50879@uicvm.uic.edu
   Viscouse P'pello                    '
   Etatech Industries Rep.             '     University of Illinois
   Chicago Branch, XQ Division         '           at Chicago
From: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Building a cable, and problems with recovering memory
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:32:00 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Matthew Paschke (paschke@husc11.harvard.edu) wrote:
> cokin@phakt.usc.edu (Darren Cokin) writes:
> >"recovering memory" on the top of the screen, I tried doing ON-C to abort but
> >no dice.  It was totally frozen.  I took out the batteries, put them back
> >in, and the screen filled with garbage and the hourglass at the top of the
> >screen.  Totally hung.  I left the batteries out for 10 minutes, and then upon
> >replacing them it asked if I wanted to recover memory.  I said yes, and it
> 
> I have had the same problem (only once) with a relatively new HP48-E (I had to
> buy it to replace the one that was stolen :( ).  I got the calc about four     
> weeks ago, and had to reset it because someone (jerk) took out my memory
> card.  Anyway, I resetted it and said yes to the memory clear message, and 
> waited almost an HOUR before trying to do ON-C.  That didn't work, so I tried
> ON-A-F again, which didn't work.  So, I tried the reset in the back of the 
> calculator, and that didn't work.  I took out the batteries, and the display 
> sort of faded away slowly.  Really strange.  The when I put them back in, 
> the display had an hourglass and a single horizontal line somewhere in the 
> middle of the screen.  I finally took out the batteries for about a minute,
> and then it was OK.  Luckily I had recently backed up the RAM so I didn't lose
> much, but it was distressing.  I would be most appreciative to hear if anyone
> else has had such a problem...
> 

	While trying to get a Smith Corona ram card to work in my HP, I'd
run into that sort of thing fairly often, but the reset on the back of
the calc always got me out. 

+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
+ name : Garth Sweet        +            Ultra-Mini HP 48 FAQ                 +
+ email: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca +                                                 +
+ phone: 902-865-8987       +     FAQ = (F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions      +
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
+ Q: Where can I get HP 48 stuff?  A: EduCalc 1-800-535-9650 24hrs (Can/USA)  +
+ Q: Where can I ftp HP 48 files?  A: seq.uncwil.edu has a ton of stuff       +
+ Q: How do I get files to my HP?  A: You need a cable, check real FAQ        +
+ Q: Where is the real FAQ?        A: At seq.uncwil.edu of course!	      +
+ Q: What's FTP anyway?            A: Mail me!	                              +
+ Q: How do I get help on my HP?   A: Post questions. We don't bite. *SMILE*  +
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: 47St. Photo fax number wanted
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:51:35 GMT
Organization: Lysator ACS at Linkoping University

Yup,  I'm looking for 47St. Photo's fax number.  
Does anyone have it?

		-Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh)
Subject: Re: S.O.S. - Amiga user - no tools
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 04:08:53 GMT

: I was just browsing on seq.uncwil.edu in /Old_Uploads (or some such thing)
: and there are some Amiga tools in one of the directories (/othercomputers
: I think).
Actually it's OldArchives/programs/othercomputers
The file is amiga.usrlib      71970 bytes

-- 
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp48:7342 comp.sys.palmtops:4525
From: jgreff@plains.NoDak.edu (Jason Greff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Lightning
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:33:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C1G4rq.Eqo
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <81711@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt2841c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2841c) writes:
>I'm sure someone out there has had this concern:
>
>If my HP is connected to a PC with the serial cable adaptor,
>and a lightning-induced surge hits the PC, isn't it likely
>that my poor little baby will be toasted?

Answer : I don't know, but if you don't plug your PC into a surge
protector you are playing with fire in the first place, so the question is
moot.

-- 
Jason Greff          North Dakota State University - Fargo, North Dakota

"It's better to remain quiet and be | "It's hard to be an individual while
 thought a fool than to speak and   |  you are busy trying to conform." --Me
 remove all doubt." -- Lincoln      |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: gvahe@cs.ulowell.edu (Gerry Vahe)
Subject: Attention!! Experienced HP48 programer!!!!
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:19:14 GMT

I'm just currious if someone out there can help me.  I am interested in writing a program to calculate the following Matrix:

[cos x   -sin x   0
 sin x    cos x   0
  0         0     1]

I would like to be able to enter the angle for x, and have the good ole hp do the rest.  I know this is probably pretty easy, but I'm not that experienced with the Hp programing language!

I would read the book, but with my course load this semester, I really dont have the time to learn a new language.  If someone wouldnt mind, could you lend me a hand???  Thanks a lot for your time, its much appreciated!!
-gerry
From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Rev. J difference, STRANGE!
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:40:03 GMT

Hmmmm...I don't get anything like what you got using either Rev E or Rev
J.  I'm using a rev D and I get 8088177.07545 in deg mode, 2584500.75352
in rad mode, and 8422210.25973 in grad mode.  Maybe your equation wan't
exactly what you typed here???  Check that the angle mode of both
calculators was the same and let me know what you find out.

See ya,

Bill Levenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48