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From: jeffy@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: New NIN "Broken" (Release date 22 Sep)
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:05:48 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I just got done listening to the new NIN mini-lp(?), I guess, _Broken_.
Six tracks; Trent worked on three ("wish" "happiness in slavery" "gave up")
with Flood. Nothing stellar; nothing really that jumped out and said
"rewind, and listen again, you idiot!" I dunno; maybe I should go back on
the Prozac.  NOTE: there is a caution that sez CAUTION: not for use with
mono devices. What's up with that? Also, the press release (Formula PR,
(212) 941-9701) [new office]) reads "Broken was illegally and secretly
recorded due to the record label situation."  _Broken_ was released on
Interscope, manufacturered by Atlantic, copyright TVT/Interscope. I don't
like the cover art.

jeffy"O'"hansen|||jeffy@athena.mit.edu|||XMTV: About as bad as TV can get.
From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Is EBN industrial?
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:51:52 GMT

Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:

>Could you post a review?  I'd be real curious.  I've seen clips of
>these guys on Mtv when they were reporting on the New Music Seminar,
>and they look pretty cool - like N'land meets Public Enemy meets Jello
>Biafra.  IMHO, of course.

I saw them do their thing at a party a few months ago, and they struck
me as very similar to Consolidated--there was an incessant disco-techno
beat, they performed in sync with a well-edited videotape and the message
seemed to be centered around their fascination with reorganizing mass
media.  They use a lot of their own hardware--revolving podium, campy
GI-esque projector, spike-clad DJ booth, etc.  It's an interesting (if
a little obvious) show; lots of energy and they're well-rehearsed in their
pokes at mass manipulation through media.

Arlen
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From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Psychic[k] T.V. - Trouble in Paradise
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:05:59 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <38052@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pskibitz@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paul F A U S T !! ) writes:
>Well, I dont know about this Mexican Mass Murder case you speak of (
>(fill me in) but GPO, as well as the rest of PTV, split from TOPY
>awhile back, right around the time of Towards Thee Infinite Beat...
>whether it was b4 or after is a little hazy to me.  I was told that
>it was before, but I have a CD of the album that I believe has TOPY
>address..but the point is PTV's been out of it for awhile.

Just for clarification, I am aware that PTV split from TOPY.
I am, however, unsure as to _why_ they split, and have heard
that it may have something to do with TOPY's possible involvement
with the mass graves they found in Mexico a couple of years ago,
where a cult of some type had been grabbing tourists and locals,
killing them in a ritual manner, then burying them in these pits
they had dug.  I'm pretty sure TOPY wasn't the cult, but wouldn't
be surprised to find that they obtained or supplied material of
a recording nature.  This behavior would not be uncommon.

>
>As far as GPO's situation goes...I've also been told that there
>was some sort of raid on TOPY's headquarters in Britain by the
>police. Several things were uncovered which I'm not in the position of
>mentioning, but were sufficent evidence under British law to
>incriminate him...thats when he fled.


Which leads me to believe that the material might be connected to
the killings, thereby qualifying as 'snuff' material, and thus,
illegal.

>
>Right now as you know he's in the Bay Area (San Francisco area)
>where he's taken a liking to playing at raves with those members of
>PTV in America.  He's recently gotten a computer account and has
>been integrating himself into the world of computer communication.
>Will he be reading alt.industrial?  Dunno.  He's still getting used
>to sending mail.


You have just frightened me beyond belief.


Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: 808 TIME BOBMB
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:37:18 GMT
Organization: Lollapalooza Phoenix Eastern Mosh Pit Smoke-Mask Crew

eric@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas) writes:

> Hey, does anyone know if 808 State's new single 'Time Bomb' has been
> released in the US?  Love that song.  Hopefully they'll release it on
> CDS with some cool mixes. 

US CD5's out, same four tracks as all the 12"s.  Sorry.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Is Trent dead?   NIN
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:27:33 GMT

Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette writes
> >
> >So is the new album posthumous, or what?
> >
> >                                                        Joe Zero
> >
> 
> He's probably as dead as Al J. was supposedly about a month before  
Ministry's
> latest CD came out, What next? Chris Connelly set's a release date and  
he died?
> A date come out for a new Front 242 album comes out and Richard 23  
supposedly
> dies?  Just kinda skeptical because of the timing :)
> 
> 							-Lee

Hey folks... my disc is due out any day now and I wanted to let you all  
know that I am dead (of course there is Ethernet in the afterworld).  So  
everyone go out and buy my disc. It is my last release ever... at least  
until the next one.

Alex
Red Over White

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: sherlock@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHERLOCK  JASON ARCHER)
Subject: Re: Is Trent dead?   NIN
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:49:56 GMT

  Really, who cares if Trent is dead or not?  What has he done
for the "industrial" music scene?  Three good songs (Head Like A Hole, 
Get down Make Love, and Suck) and alot of "pop" bullshit.  What
about the shit he said about Front Line Assembly in Spin magazine?
 Calling their music "uninspired bullshit."  Perhapse if he had a 
little more experiance makeing QUALITY ORIGIONAL music I would
accept his criticisms, but until then it is my opinion that Trent
is raping and selling out the "Industrial" music scene.

                                    Lupo
                  ****W.O.A.R.T. Faction Inc. will rule the world****
From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Infact
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:07:54 GMT
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep6.194545.11231@news.iastate.edu> tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>Jimi was never addicted to heroin... at least tnats was was said in the
>best documentary on the man Ive seen.....


Genius.  Sheer Genius.


MNS.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: erwin@helsinki.ks.uiuc.edu (Edgar Erwin)
Subject: Re: New Meat Beat Manifesto
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:39:46 GMT

> jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF THE BEACH) writes...
> >speaking of meat beat manifesto, can anyone tell me the name of the song
> >that contains the lyric:  "This is what its all about....This is what its
> >all about....  ....Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll...."??? 

SEBESTA, TIMOTHY RICHARD writes
> The song is called Psyche Out off of 99%

Not exactly.  It is one of the remixes of Psyche Out.  NOT the version on the  
album 99%.  As is often the case with MBM, the remix is an almost completely  
different song from the original.

Ed erwin@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:10536 alt.rave:3125
From: eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:39:55 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT

In article <1992Sep15.105514.114@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu>
aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
 
...
>FC9.. no need to apologize, I already said that I'm no authority on the subject
>FC9.. but my question remains
>FC9.. is Rave=Techno?
 
No, and I'll kill anyone who says it is. ;-)
 
Remember, persons will call anything techno if they can make a buck off it.
 
--Eric
 
  ======================================     eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
 |[  RP-1  [____]|[  1] -<>-<>- 0  0   ]|   WSU, Detroit, Michigan USA
  | 6     7     8     9     0          |
  | ====  ====  ====  ====  ====  ==== |  "Persuaded of the co-operation
  | 1     2     3     4     5          |    of the Techno-mechanic with
  | ====  ====  ====  ====  ====  ==== |        the Dynamo-ideal..."
  |____________________________________|              Sarah Austin, 1833
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: review: Meat Beat Manifesto: Edge Of No Control
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:41:18 GMT

I'd say that the *three* tracks on the Edge of No Control are
better than the actually track itself and the Orbital remix
(I agree that the Consolidated remix is nice and hard).

The other tracks are The Circular Cosmic Spot, DJ Interruptus,
and Original Control (Version 3).

If you like Dangers' stuff, this is definitely one to get.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         So the odds against him were higher than a vanload of hippies
                   on a blotterful of Owlsley's Old Original.
                           There was still a chance.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jrblack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Black)
Subject: Re: Front Line Assembly: Toronto at the Opera House
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:32:30 GMT

In article <BuCnIp.LK7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> cpw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca writes:

>I lost my industrial cherry on Tuesday. Thanks to Bill Leeb, it
>was wonderful.

	In Cleveland last night, I saw a mother in her '40s holding the
hands of her 2 children roughly 8-10 years old, wearing their black t-shirts.
They actually stayed for the entire show.  NOW that's an early introduction
to industrial...

>Contagion opened, and they were welcomed, but like someone
>else said, they didn't have the light show that FLA did. They
>aren't as well known around here, either.

	I think out of 6 songs, only 1 didn't use they same bass line
throughout the entire song.  Talking about wearing out a groove... jeez.

	As far as FLA goes, Body Count was a definite treat!  

	Line of the night, "... what do you mean we can't smoke weed out here?
...but this is CLEVELAND!"



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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:30:45 GMT
Organization: Lollapalooza Phoenix Eastern Mosh Pit Smoke-Mask Crew

dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:

> but dont misuse words, (like gay is misused, IMNSFHO)
> cuz that really leads to the destruction of the language

Oh garbage, Dana -- that's how lanaguage evolves.  And since the word
"gay" has been used as slang for "homosexual" for longer than either one
of us has even been alive, I think it's a little late to start
complaining. 

> IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe

What, so alt.rave is for demented people who talk wildly and incoherently?
(Keep the choruses of "yes" to yourselves, people . . . )

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: al@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Haus Der Luge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Thanks
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:30:30 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

Thanks for all the responses to my query about EINSTURZENDE NEUBATEN.
 
HausDerLuge
 

;--- (Haus Der Luge) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
;E-mail: al@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Show Me Your Spine
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:17:35 GMT

"Show Me Your Spine" - written by Jourgenson/barker project
PTP, with Nivek Ogre on vocals, for the ROBOCOP I soundtrack.
Has anyone heard it?  Where can it be found?  It did not appear
in the movie.  Thanks, Steve, for giving me voice.

Dave, using Steve's account
--
You are a true believer. Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses.
Thou art a subject of the divine, created in the image of man by the masses,
for the masses. Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work 
hard...increase production...prevent accidents...and be happy. (THX-1138)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai)
Subject: Re: What song is this: Nitzer Ebb
Keywords: "Pluck you off" 
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:13:39 GMT

Well, there was an article a while ago saying that the lyric
on Lightning Man was "block you out", not "pluck you off" as I wrote.
I beg to differ with that poster, since in a previous post I made asking
for NE lyrics someone with a Japanese copy of Showtime (complete with
lyrics) responded and enlightened me as to the real lyrics of Lightning
Man. I was surprised too -- I thought it was "pluck you out" ...

"Ebb forever and forever Ebb!"

Vijay
-- 
==============================================================================
Vijay Pai                        | "You better be careful out there  
Aspiring young EE                |  You ain't gonna get far
4th North/Jones Coll./Rice U.    |  We're gonna pluck you off!" -- Nitzer Ebb
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: andersh@tdb.uu.se (Anders Holmberg)
Subject: Re: A Split Second - Song Identification
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:17:36 GMT

omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler) writes:
: I believe there's a song by A Split Second called Bend My Body Armor.
: Does anyone know what album/single this is on?  Also, let me know if
: the album is considered a good one in general....  Thanks! 
: 
: #############################################################################

The song is on the album "...from the inside". If you ask me i say that this
album is _not_ very good, it's boring.
/Anders
From: trs4742@zeus.tamu.edu (SEBESTA, TIMOTHY RICHARD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Industrial in Movies (was Re: Skinny Puppy- Rodent)
Date: 15 Sep 1992 21:25:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep15.155920.13011@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley) writes...
>In article <BuMAv7.7qE@monitor.com> shawn@monitor.com writes:
>>
>>Remember not too long ago there was some macho movie about mountain climbing,  
>>and the trailer was Front242 music.  I never saw that movie, but I kinda doubt  
>>that Front242 did the soundtrack :-)

The movie is called K7.

Tim Sebesta


> 
>Also, I remember that the television commercial advertising
>the Bruce Willis film "The Last Boyscout" had part of a song
>by Front 242 in it.  This was one of the things that attracted
>me to the film, but there wasn't any Front 242 sounding music
>in the entire film.
> 
>Todd.
>-- 
>| Todd Bradley -- Official Microsoft Spokesman
>| 
>| WARNING/GUARANTEE: This message contains material which a truly
>| free Society would neither fear nor suppress.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Subject: Re: _The Last Man to Fly_ (was Re: Matt's trick postings. WATCH OUT!)
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:42:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.012300.24419@adobe.com> harrison@adobe.com (Harrison Page) writes:
>Now -- if I like this Tear Garden (err.. tear garden) album, which LPD discs
>would I like?  I've never taken a chance on them . . .

that's because every time i bring in an LPD album, you never have time
to listen to it. arg!

i think most all of them are good, but i really like the Ka'Spell solo
albums like AAhzid China Doll (actually, all of the China Doll series
are good).

hasta.

-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: Infact
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:03:45 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep6.194545.11231@news.iastate.edu> tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>Jimi was never addicted to heroin... at least tnats was was said in the
>best documentary on the man Ive seen.....
>
AND

He was on barbituates when he croaked anyway.......

Not Heroin!

-Scott

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Talking
Reply-To: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:51:42 GMT

Talking about the Shamen.... I was kinda erched to find the mix of Move Any
Mountain on Entact wasnt the one playing on the radio.... I heard theres
a single or something with several versions?
From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Is EBN industrial?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:47:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep12.180012.21335@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.194224.15064@cs.brown.edu>
>dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>
>> a friend asked if I want to see
>> Emergancy Broadcast Network tomorrow (I think that's the name).
>
>Could you post a review?  I'd be real curious.  I've seen clips of
>these guys on Mtv when they were reporting on the New Music Seminar,
>and they look pretty cool - like N'land meets Public Enemy meets Jello
>Biafra.  IMHO, of course.
>

I, too, would appreciate such a review, despite the classification.


Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu    mnsharp@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Slug Bait Lyrics Please
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:58:06 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <BuDxzz.LCF@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>>What do I win?
>
>A clue.   Don't waste it.

I'll put it in the pile with the rest of 'em.  You can have your 
Followup-To: line back.

>alt.stupidity, alt.slack, misc.test, misc.test, misc.test

-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Mini FLA concert Review..
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:41:23 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


    Concert Review, Front Line Assembly, Tactical Neuro Implant tour.
 
Price: 10$
Shirts: short sleve $22, long $25 \ _
        posters $4, stickers $1   /   Pretty Pricy, but all of excellent
        base ball hats $13.      /    quality.
 
Location: Trocadero, Philly PA.
 
Date: Sept 4th.
 
Running time: Contangent (opening act) 45 Min.
              FLA (main show) 1hr 45 Min.  2, 5 min breaks.
 
Disclaimer:  First, let me say, that this is the only FLA show, that Ive
ever been to, so I cannot compare it to other shows.
 
   The opening act, Contagent, was good, very good in fact, I plan to
pick up a CD or two by these guys.  They sounded like a more dancey, yet
harder Nitzer Ebb, with a bit of older Thrill Kill Cult thrown in.  The
crowd seemed to really like these guys, and I really liked these guys,
and no one seemed to mind that they were the opening act.  By the time
they were on the last song, the floor was packed, and cookin.  These guys
really got things started!  I was really impressed.  (hell, I even picked
up a T-shirt).  They moved off the stage after 45 min, and started to
move their gear out.  By 9 they were all done, and had done 6 songs.
 
   FLA stepped out at 9:15, and started off with _Bio-Mechanic_, intense,
a decent stage set up, with minor light effects, and smoke.  However, the
nifty thing was a 5x5 set of 22" TVs, that were showing *rapid* scenes
from every horror/action/cult film you could think of, (Brazil, Mad Max,
Alien, Evil Dead, The Day After, OutLand, Brain Dead, and far too many to
remember).  This TV 'wall' changed to the beat of the music (or tried),
and really helped out with the stage effects.
   One of the neater things I though about the show, was that they used
*live* drums, with only a few things that sounded as of they could have
been off tape.  Nifty 'home made' metal/welded keyboard/drum stands, with
a neat sheet metal drum set.  Samples, were the same for the most part,
with a few exceptions (well thought out).  The over all sound quality was
excellent, and while it was a loud show, I didnt walk way without my
hearing.
   FLA did just about every tune off Tactical Neuro Implant, and a few
off Caustic Grip (Resist, Forge, Overkill), with only one or two off
Gashed Senses, and a couple off Convergence (Body Count), and perhaps a
few off State Of Mind.  At one point, there was a song, that I, nor
anyone else seem to have heard before, and it showed (everyone stoped
moving).
   All and all, a good show... Well, worth my $10, and $4 for a poster.

Go see it.

----- 
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68 Cougar XR-7, 89 VW Golf, 72 Honda CL360Twin, Ti/99/4a, Vextrex, Timex
From: pskibitz@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paul F A U S T !! )
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Psychic[k] T.V. - Trouble in Paradise
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:46:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <BuKunr.CpK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>Yesterday I was informed that PTV has formally split from
>the Temple of Psychick Youth, due to some possible 
>involvment of T.O.P.Y. in the Mexican Mass Murder case of
>a few years back.
>Are they indeed under investigation?
>Also, is there any connection between this and Genesis P--Orridge's
>flee to California to avoid obscenity charges in "Great" Britain?


Well, I dont know about this Mexican Mass Murder case you speak of (
(fill me in) but GPO, as well as the rest of PTV, split from TOPY
awhile back, right around the time of Towards Thee Infinite Beat...
whether it was b4 or after is a little hazy to me.  I was told that
it was before, but I have a CD of the album that I believe has TOPY
address..but the point is PTV's been out of it for awhile.

As far as GPO's situation goes...I've also been told that there
was some sort of raid on TOPY's headquarters in Britain by the
police. Several things were uncovered which I'm not in the position of
mentioning, but were sufficent evidence under British law to
incriminate him...thats when he fled.

Right now as you know he's in the Bay Area (San Francisco area)
where he's taken a liking to playing at raves with those members of
PTV in America.  He's recently gotten a computer account and has
been integrating himself into the world of computer communication.
Will he be reading alt.industrial?  Dunno.  He's still getting used
to sending mail.


			-Paul FAUST