From: judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein -- odd parity)
Subject: Re: Claptrap or not?  You decide. (formerly: Jay Stein stops...)
Originator: judi@next.wam.umd.edu
Organization: Washington Area Clinic Defense Task Force
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:46:43 GMT

Ah, how I love threads with Doug.  He consistently deletes major parts
of my articles, misinterprets (or deliberately maligns) my intent,
ignores posts where I have corrected him, and not responded to several
points I think deserve attention.  Alas, my news server has been
down for a few days, so I'm only now able to respond to his latest
nonsense.  Of course, if he responds he'll probably delete this
graf, as he has with so many others...

What: <1992Nov7.004440.20869@ncsu.edu>
Who:  dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)

>Jay Stein's claims about the number of prolifers who condone abortion
>clinic bombings reminds of the people who point to homosexuals when
>they want to place blame on the AIDS crisis.  Such people want others
>to hate and fear homosexuals, so they promote bigoted stereotypes that  
>homosexuals are sexually promiscuous and irresponsible. 

Implying, of course, that I want people to hate and fear pro-lifers.
For the umpteenth time, Doug, you are wrong.  I want whatever pro-lifers
are bombing clinics to stop.  One good way to do this is to call attention
to the fact that it happens - but of course such efforts are undermined
when individuals like yourself insist on shooting down the messenger
instead of hearing the message.

>They want to give the public the impression that the AIDS crisis can
>be blamed on homosexuals.  [...]

Such people also tend to be pro-life.  Go figure.

>Jay Stein wants to do the same thing with respect to prolifers.

You keep repeating this.  It's not any more true now than it was when you
first said it - you remember Doug, that was the reply in which you
quoted only my subject line and deleted the entire article.

>He wants to stir up fear and hatred of prolifers by promoting
>the idea that a "plurality" of prolifers condone abortion clinic
>bombings. 

I'm not "promoting an idea," Doug - I'm calling attention to a fact.
Even overlooking that, the first line in the above quote is not
correct, though you probably knew that already.  And your posturing is
incredibly offensive to boot - the clinic where I escort has already
been bombed once, and was forced to relocate twice as a result.  But
then that's not important in your scheme of things, is it.

[more homosexuality analogy deleted... you get the idea]

>I actually feel kind of sorry for Jay Stein.  I hope he can get over 
>his hatred of prolifers and begin to see the real issues. 
 
What gives you the idea that I have a hatred of prolifers?  I hate
nobody.  On the other hand, perpetually thickheaded and clueless
flamebait does tend to get under my skin.  Maybe if you got over your
Borg-like repetition of unsubstantiated assertions about me, you'd
begin to see *my* 'real issues.'
--
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