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From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: To Jack Radigan; Regarding JR-Comm 2.0+
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:33:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Jul28.133339.2206
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc.

In article 556588@zeus.calpoly.edu, jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey) writes:
>
>The Amiga computer was based on it heart-and-soul multitasking O/S.  The problem
>that many of us found was that JRC doesn't particularly like to multitask well.
>

??? I run JR-Comm 1.02a on my 1000 running WB 2.04 and have *never* had a problem
multi-tasking.  In fact, I frequently uncompress files while downloading others,
read doc files, display pictures, and perform other tasks (such as play Nethack)
while using JR-Comm.  Perhaps you're just trying to use applications which require
the serial port which JR-Comm (rightfully) locks.  I feel your blanket statement
is a bit out of line; how about some examples of what doesn't work, and how it
fails?

>Our question to you is: Will the 2.0+ version of JRC multitask correctly? 

Again, I find that 1.02a does just fine.I suggest you re-examine your
system implementation.

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From: oakley@cgou11.enet.dec.com (Wayne Oakley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: AFAXdemo with SupraFAXmodem can't send FAX???
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:47:20 GMT
Reply-To: oakley%cgou11.dec@decwrl.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment. Calgary, Canada.



    Has anybody  been  able  to  get the Afax Demo from the Fish Disk to work
    with a SupraFAXmodem 14400?
    
    I am using  the  getty  frontend  and  can receive FAX's alright but when
    sending the afaxspl program  does  an  init  of the modem and the afaxspl
    status window indicates 'sync'ing modem'  and  then  after a while failes
    with an error 21.  After  the  modem  has  been init'd the RD lite on the
    modem does not indicate any further communications from the system, so it
    seems  as though afaxspl is waiting for something  but  not  getting  any
    response and times out.
    
    wayne
    

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From: eodell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eugene O'Dell)
Subject: Re: To Jack Radigan; Regarding JR-Comm 2.0+
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:33:13 GMT


JR-Comm v1.02a multi-tasks with other programs well, but I wish it would
multi-task within itself (i.e. Work on phonebook while changing palette,
etc.).

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--Eugene O'Dell                        
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                  eodell@nyx.cs.du.edu   I would give it all...
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:40:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
      <62802@cup.portal.com> <3417@faatcrl.UUCP>  
  <Bs2KD7.9q@news.cso.uiuc.edu>   <3436@faatcrl.UUCP>  
  <62993@cup.portal.com> <3450@faatcrl.UUCP> <63104@cup.portal.com>
  <3461@faatcrl.UUCP>

>
>  Most every service has direct connect lines, but are the ones for Portal
>9600bps with no extra charges?  If so, then this is certainly an advantage
>that BIX used to have until late last year.  At least they priced it
>reasonably so that using the 9600 indial is not prohibitive and the speed
>difference offsets the price over a Telenet 2400bps indial.
>
>
>  I can't comment on Portal's other services since I've not been on there in
>over 5 years.
>
>  -jack-

Portal has just installed racks of direct-dial V.32/V.32bis/V.42 modems
on a new rotary and they are being tested now. I expect them to go
online and be available to all Portal subscribers shortly. There will
be no hourly charge to use these modems - the user just foots the bill
for the phone call, if out of Portal's local dialing area (San Jose,
CA). 

Jack.. if you want to check out Portal, phone me. YOu have my number.

Harv
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:02:45 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

drchip@cup.portal.com (MYRON A LIEBERMAN) writes:

>BIX and Portal are both worthy of consideration for Amigans. BIX is 
>actually slightly cheaper without considering phone connection. Recently
>BIX went from a flat rate program for phone connection, which was very
>good, to a PCP-like $20/20hr alternative. They do NOT allow direct connect
>via a local line (without extra charges). Portal DOES. I have been on BIX
>for a number of years and on Portal ever since the "AmigaZone" moved to
>Portal.

  Most every service has direct connect lines, but are the ones for Portal
9600bps with no extra charges?  If so, then this is certainly an advantage
that BIX used to have until late last year.  At least they priced it
reasonably so that using the 9600 indial is not prohibitive and the speed
difference offsets the price over a Telenet 2400bps indial.

>money--they are not equivalent. Neither can match BIX OR Portal for Amiga
>related items, even if you go beyond basic service. I am not negative to
>ANY of the services discussed here. They all provide high quality options,
>but CI$$$$$ charges unreasonably for what they provide. 

  If all you're concerned about is Amiga support, than I'd have to agree that
CIS is not the best alternative.  If you have other interests CIS might be the
better choice over GEnie, if only for a much better messaging system.  CIS also
offers a lot of professional services, albeit at extra cost as well, but if
you need them it's there.

  I can't comment on Portal's other services since I've not been on there in
over 5 years.

  -jack-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems
From: mjp3783@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again
Reply-To: mjp3783@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:08:34 GMT

In article <63035@cup.portal.com>, joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:
>>TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>
>If all you want to do is read an encyclopedia or something that normally is
>free (things you can do at the library).
>
>Since this group is talking about Amigas, we would need to look at the Amiga
>sig, THAT costs $$$$$$$.  Absurd amounts in MHO.  On portal I get 9600 BPS
>at a little more than $1 per hour.  Internet mail, HUGE databases on Portal
>and conferencing with al the right people.  Why would anyone want to spend
>those huge hourly rates in CI$?  Maybe for AP news and such, but for Amiga
>interests, nothing can come close to Portal.
>
>-Joel

I have a better deal yet! 
Pay a set yearly fee, and get unlimited FTP, unlimited Internet, and unlimited
VAX/VMS, VAX/ULTRIX, and SUN3/50 usage. 

Plus luxurious 6'X10' accomidations, 14 meals a week, and a great health club
(also unlimited!).

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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Ansi and Jrcomm
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:07:54 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Jul26.054007.4794@news.ysu.edu>, ac463@yfn (Rich Yauman) writes:
>And according to different comments this text should not
>only of been in color (which I did see), but it should also of been
>flashing (which I didn't see).

The Amiga doesn't support flashing text (Thank G-d!).  If I remember the
documentation right, JRComm shows "flashing" text in a bold font.

>If this situation is because JRCOMM doesn't support flashing ANSI text,
>then this is a suggestion for the next editition.  

Since the Amiga doesn't support it, Jack would have to write some kind
of independant interrupt-driven loop to do it (draw normal; draw reverse;
draw normal; draw reverse; etc. ad nauseum).  Frankly, it seems like an
awful lot of work just to allow some programmer the privaledge of annoying
me by flashing the monitor in my face.

All MHO...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,news.answers
From: wendell@medsys.rn.com (Wendell Dingus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: SupraFAXmodem 14.4 question - BUGS??
Keywords: supra modem 14.4
Date: 19 Jul 92 21:17:08 GMT
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee

Also... Is there any known settings to change in a SupraFAXmodem 14.4 to
coax it into connecting properly with a Telebit Trailblazer? At least I
think it's a Trailblazer.. The 'Dual' Telebit Pep/V.32 one.. Anyway, the
local news system I call just upgraded to one and the 14.4K FaxModem
will NOT connect to it properly at all. It handshakes a v.32 connection
properly from the sound of things, but then immediately drops to 300
bps (3 on the display) and hangs. JR-Comm's dial window never goes away,
so either the modem is not bringing up DCD or not sending a connect
string I guess.  

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!


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-- Wendell Dingus    Inet: wendell@medsys.rn.com       //
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Subject: CIS rates (was Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again)
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:11:54 GMT

In article <5403@dsacg4.dsac.dla.mil> nol2321@dsacg4.dsac.dla.mil (Jim Dunn) writes:
>Let's not be too hard on CI$, er, I mean, CIS.  Those dollar amounts are
>only almost correct if you call them during the daytime... but if you do
>what I do and call after 6pm, then it's only $7.95 per month -- period.
>
>END OF ANOTHER STATEMENT OF FACT BY ANOTHER SATISFIED CUSTOMER.

Factual, yes, but perhaps omitting some information.

To the best of my knowledge, CIS's flat rate offering includes
various features, but it does NOT include any of the hardware or
software related SIGs save those that have to do with the software
that CIS sells to people with PClones and Macs--the software being
programs for using CIS, so that, with that exception, if you access
computer-related SIGs on CIS, you still pay a certain amount per
unit time.

	James Jones (not associated with CIS save as a former customer)

(Opinions, if there are any, expressed herein are solely those of the
author.)
From: jwaris@pdrome.UUCP (Jeffrey Waris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: What is the best BBS?
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:02:17 GMT
Organization: The PowerDrome BBS [(716)825-3614 CNet]

In article <1992Jul23.053218.25961@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, eodell@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Eugene O'Dell) writes:
>
>Glad to see someone else who supports it too, Jeff.  What I'd like to
>see is what people dislike about C-Net, and not gripes about old
>versions and what they didn't have (which has been most of the chatter
>lately).  C-Net is fast, efficient and totally configurable.  What
>more could anyone ask for?

I guess people complain about buggyness.... (Which ther havn't been any real
huge bugs in a while.) I don't gripe about them, no reason to, I know that Ken
is working on it all the time and it will be fixed... C-net is a really nice
BBS program, and I agree fully with what you said....

Jeff

*<+=-----------------C-Net Rules!----------------------------------------=+>*
: Jeffrey A. Waris              ///  - These are my humble opinions and not :
: Mail to:                     ///     that of PowerDrome BBS.              :
: aquarium!pdrome!jwaris@  \\\///    - PowerDrome BBS                       :
:   acsu.buffalo.edu        \XX/       Amiga C-Net-(716)825-3614)           :
*<+=---------PowerDrome-On the CUTTING EDGE!!-----------------------------+>*
Quote:
"DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP TAPPING LIKE THAT?!? YOU BLOATED SACK OF PROTOPLASM!!"
                                                        -Ren
From: jwaris@pdrome.UUCP (Jeffrey Waris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: What is the best BBS?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:45:44 GMT
Organization: The PowerDrome BBS [(716)825-3614 CNet]

In article <36462@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad'
Adams) writes:

>You can't count the C-64 version in the history of the Amiga version.  The
>code had to be rewritten...
>
>And C-Net is relatively new as far as Fidonet goes.

Sure you can. Th auther is the same. The coding may be different but the guy
who programmed it is the same.

>I'm sorry, I've seen too many dupes in Fidonet by that horrid XFido door
>for C-Net.  I've also seen too many messages without a TO: field and with
>the wrong SUBJECT: line as during earlier implementations these could not
>be changed.  Also, how do you go about deleting a message in the middle of
>a subject thread?  Or, how do you skip to the Nth message in a given 
>Fido echo.  I prefer to read messages in chronological order.  When
>I've not read the AMIGA echo for a few days and I have 2000 messages
>waiting in the echo, I'll frequently go to the 100th message from
>the end of the base to see what is current.  Then I can go back
>and read threads that have interesting endings.

To each there own. It was my opinion.

>I'm interested in hearing what other features you have in C-Net that "we
>don't have."  I've been rather amused with the Star-Net/C-Net/Xenolink
>sysops who claim to have the only software that has feature xyz.

Amused huh??? Like wise I am very sure. Let me say this. I am SICK and TIRED of
people bad mouthing C-Net, and it seems to happen alot here. It seems like I am
the only one trying to defend it, if thats the case, so be it I will still
defend it, otherwise people may get biased impressions about it. I am also sick
and tired of people saying their BBS program is better than another. I will
mail you a current added feature list since 2.0 and you can amused and judge
for yourself. Please mail me a features list on DLG, I would like to be amused
also. I won't waste bandwith on the net for stupid my BBS program is better
than your BBS program flames.

The reason you use DLG is you like it, the reason I use C-Net is I like it. So
let someone else choose a BBS program if they like it, not because you or I say
that ours is superior.

Jeff

*<+=-----------------C-Net Rules!----------------------------------------=+>*
: Jeffrey A. Waris              ///  - These are my humble opinions and not :
: Mail to:                     ///     that of PowerDrome BBS.              :
: aquarium!pdrome!jwaris@  \\\///    - PowerDrome BBS                       :
:   acsu.buffalo.edu        \XX/       Amiga C-Net-(716)825-3614)           :
*<+=---------PowerDrome-On the CUTTING EDGE!!-----------------------------+>*
Quote:
"DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP TAPPING LIKE THAT?!? YOU BLOATED SACK OF PROTOPLASM!!"
                                                        -Ren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: Don.Macphee@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Don Macphee)
Subject: Re: SupraFAXmodem 14.4 question - BUGS??
Keywords: supra modem 14.4
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:56:21 GMT

 I am having the same problems, only with v.42bis modems.

 What should I be setting my modem and seriel port to to connect to a 
2400 bps, V.42bis modem? All I seem to get is garbage, or a 2400 baud
connect.

-Don Mac Phee

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Where Faq for AmigaNOS (SLIP)....
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn 1.16c (6/22/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Private Mail/Usenet node
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:55:48 +0000

In article <Steve.005t@donald.demon.co.uk> Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.183652.41920@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>Could someone post where to get the faq for the Amiga SLIP
>>implementation (I think it's called amigaNOS...) and or the
>>binaries/sources.  Thanks...
>>-- 
>>jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
>>James Miller
>>
>>_chicchai .sig no ho ha ichiban iin janai ka_
>>
>>
>
>-- 
>
>
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>(____)  )_)  (___)  \/  (___) |     or: sgilbert@cix.clink.co.uk
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>
>
>

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: To Jack Radigan; Regarding JR-Comm 2.0+
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:26:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

>Even JR-Comm v1.02 does that.  Just check your scrollback mode to
                                     ^^^^^
>split view.

Oops... should be "change" instead of "check"

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: eodell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eugene O'Dell)
Subject: Re: Re: What is the best BBS?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:11:51 GMT

In article <36521@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad'
Adams) writes:
>Did shudson@vsbbs.UUCP really type:
>
>> If you had looked at the manual, you would have found out that ALL CNe
 commands, as well as all text, could be changed simply by editing a file
 Changing 'Pfiles' and 'Gfiles' (Hold-overs from the C64 version), to som
thing less cryptic to most uses would have taken less than 5 minutes. I h
ve found CNet to be the most powerful BBS program available for the Amiga
(Or any other system, for that matter. And it dosn't put one of those lam
 '-Via ' line at the bottom of the message, either.)
>
>My congratulations to your implementation of UUCP/Usenet on C-Net.  The
>above is one line of 496 characters, instead of 7 lines.  Someone who
>wanted to respond to only a part of the message (as I wanted) would have
>to do a bit of work to reformat it properly.
>
>As to the tear line, I must be getting senile in my old age, as every bl
ody
>message I see in Fidonet from a C-Net board has the line:
>--- XFido x.x
>
>'Nough said.
>-- 
>John Adams - Sysop - Beachside BBS.  (Amiga/Cyber/Fido/UUCP)     _
>Internet: jma@cis.ufl.edu      John_Adams%lamia.uucp@ufl.edu  _ // Amiga
>Fidonet: 1:3612/57.0         UUCP: uflorida!lamia!John_Adams  \X/ Foreve

>Cybernet: 57:2163/57.0  AT&T: 1-904-492-2305 (Pensacola, FL)


ALL Fidonet nodes add the -- Fido lines at the end.  What he's talking
about is the --Via DLG Pro line that is added onto Usenet messages.
What's your point about the formatting of the text?  I don't see how
it follows in this discussion.

--
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                  eodell@nyx.cs.du.edu   I would give it all...
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From: hamster@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: JR-COMM (vt220 emulation?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:22:27 GMT
Organization: Werple public-access Unix, Melbourne

jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:

>mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Mueller) writes:

>>Does JR-COMM have vt220 emulation?

>  The next release has a complete VT-220 emulation.

Hi Jack... any estimate of when the new release might appear? Or
possibly a hint of what's to come? (BiModem? Grin... ) 

>  -jack-

Anthony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert)
Subject: Re: Supra v.32 settings for BBS
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 20:18:16 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

jkh@sparc3.lotus.com (Jordan K Hubbard) writes:

>I have also connected two 1.200-C Supras together at 14.4KB, but
>I *HAVE NOT* been able to connect to the Supra BBS (I have to
>assume that they're not using a Telebit!).  Perhaps the problem
>arises with supras a different rev levels trying to talk to eachother.

Well, I have experienced noise-problems on the Supra BBS too, but if you just
try with 9600 instead it will work flawlessly.

Regards
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|\enneth  Fribert  Snailnet: Nedertoften 39, 1tv,  Dk-2720 Vanloese, Denmark
System currently in use: Amiga 2000, GVP Series II, Quantum 105S, SupraFax v32b
                         10 mb ram, MultiVision2000
From: thad@btr.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NFS/AS225 package
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:28:11 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <1992Jul17.204912.2452@msdrl.com> karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias) writes:
>Has anybody ever seen this error before:
>
>	nfsmgr: Mount fail: (volume vaxa) NFS: Stale filehandle;
>
>I've been using nfsmgr to mount a volume on a vax running VMS for close to a
>8-10 months now with _no_ problems (well, alright, a few timeouts here and
>[...]

Is your VMS box in a HSC cluster?

Reason I ask is that a client of mine has been experiencing "stale filehandle"
problems on clustered VMS systems with the condition caused by ANY anomaly on
the cluster (i.e. cycling a system, etc.).  The problem occurs with the lock
manager and multiple people/processes appending to data files when, *P*O*O*F*
everyone starts stepping on each other's data.  Problem exists with (at least)
VMS versions 5.3, 5.4 and 5.5 though there are workarounds [some of which
require use of structures which are NOT included with any VMS distribution in
SYS$LIBRARY but are elsewhere (hardcopy) documented.]

The cluster/lock-manager problem "may" affect NFS mounts (I dunno, just a
guess).

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: mlednor@tower.demon.co.uk (Mark `Jay' Lednor)