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From: fischer@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Phil Fischer)
Subject: Re: Including PostScript figures; problems with xdvi on Sun?
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:01:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.150857.29856@ctr.columbia.edu> anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu (Andrew P. Anselmo) writes:
>About including PS files in a Latex document...
>
>I've been trying this for a while now, with no success.  I have gotten
>the psfig.sty file, and have a PS file that has been created with XtoPS.
>By running Latex on the file (pap0.tex) I get no errors, but while running
>xdvi (I'm running this on a Sun IPX w/ OpenWindows 2.0), I get the main
>text of what is in my file, without the pictures.  Any ideas why this might
>not be working?  It does seem that enough space is created for the figure,
>but all I get is a big blank space.
>
>Here's the error message from xdvi:
>
>[ anselmo@cumesb ~/text/tex ]: xdvi pap0
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Include0 "psfig.pro"" not implemented
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Literal "38153420 26510049 1052508 12761661 39205928 39271710 startTexFig  "" not implemented
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Include1 "/home/cumesb/anselmo/text/tex/a.ps"" not implemented
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Literal "endTexFig  " " not implemented
>[ anselmo@cumesb ~/text/tex ]: 
>
>Thanks.
>
>-A.
>
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Andrew Anselmo / Department of Mechanical Engineering / Columbia University   
>   236A SW Mudd Building 212-854-2965 / anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu 
>

xdvi only displays the .dvi file. If you are including a postscript figure
this is not included until you use dvips (or on of its variants) to make a 
postscript file. At that point the file is all postscript and you can 
display it with a postscript previewer (i.e. ghostscript, pageview).

Phil

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: funka@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Andreas Funk)
Subject: DVIps (OS/2) : no memory message
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:24:35 GMT

Hello,

some days ago i got dvips for os2. 
After installing it i tried to convert some simple 
dvi-files, but always the mesage:
"dvips: !no memory" occured.
There is no Postscript printer connected to my machine,
but i think it should run without one.

Dvips was installed with emtex, and i used the -o option
to direct the output to a file. I used the predifined config.ps 
settings.

Any hints are appreciated

Thanks in advance 

Funky
From: schiller@prl.philips.nl (schiller c)
Subject: Two small conceptual mistakes in latex.tex with proposed improvement
Originator: schiller@prles11
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:20:13 GMT



Recently I became annoyed by the large space that 
latex puts between the number of a section and the section title (1em).
Trying to reduce it, I found out that the space is defined as
a fixed length, not in the .sty file, but in latex.tex itself, more
precisely in the definition of \@sect.

In order to change it, one has to recopy the hole definition into 
a macro file, change the value (e.g. from 1em to 0.3em), and put the whole
between \makeatletter and \makeatother. Rather tedious.

Could the length 1em appearing in \@sect not be given a name,
such as \@svsecdist, so that the length can be defined in the .sty file ?
In principle, the style file decides all dimensions, but this one
is an exeption. Could this be mended in the next latex version ?

I am shure many people in Europe and in other continents would appreciate
this flexibility which gives the freedom to avoid the streched-out 
titles of the original latex, which does not follow the taste 
of people over here.

Looking through latex.tex, one finds only one more fixed length
appearing after an \hskip,
in the definition of \and. The same should apply here, I guess.

Anybody has the address of Rainer Maria Schoepf, in order 
to tell him about this proposal ?


Happy tex'ing


           Christoph Schiller

           schiller@prl.philips.nl
From: dfarrow@spam.ua.oz (Duncan Farrow)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: A macro for giving the current time of day.
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:58:57 GMT
Organization: Stats Pure & Applied Maths, Uni of Adelaide, Australia

Dear TeXers, here is a macro for producing the current time (or actually
the time that the macro is called) which behaves very similarly to the
\today macro (The TeXbook, page 406) that returns the current date in
the current font. This macro uses the TeX primative \time that returns
the number of minutes since midnight and most of the effort is spent
in converting this to the hour and minutes past the hour.

\newcount\hour \newcount\minute
\def\now{\ifnum\time<60       %check to see if it's just after midnight
          12:\ifnum\time<10 0\fi\number\time am %and act accordingly.
         \else
          \ifnum\time>719\let\a=p\else\leta=p\fi %Check to see if it is pm
          \hour=\time
          \divide\hour by 60 %\hour is the result of an integer divide
          \ifnum\hour>12\advance\hour by -12\advance\minute by -720\fi
          \number\hour:%
          \multiply\hour by 60 %Use is made of the integer divide here.
          \advance\minute by -\hour
          \ifnum\minute<10 0\fi\number\minute\a m\fi}

Well I use it in my draft papers etc.

Duncan.
From: schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (Rainer Schoepf)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Drivers for self-documenting files
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:37:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: sc.9208190637.AA05663
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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Phil Hirschhorn writes:

 > I'd like to print out the documentation contained in the comments of
 > the file latex.tex.  I've got the multicol package, but it seems to
 > require a "driver" file to correctly format the documentation.  Does
 > anyone know where I can get the driver for the latex.tex
 > documentation?

You have to be aware that latex.tex is not in self documenting format.
The best you can get without much effort is a verbatim listing of
latex.tex with line numbers, and an index of all macros containing the
numbers of all the lines where a macro is used. To this end, use a
driver file like this:

\documentstyle[doc]{article}

\CodelineIndex

\begin{document}
  \IndexInput{latex.tex}
  \PrintIndex
\end{document}

Beware that this takes a long time and produces a lot of complaints
about overfull boxes (easily avoided by increasing \textwidth). You
can then generate the sorted index file as follows (assuming your
driver file was called driver.tex):

makeindex -s gind.ist driver

Then you have to run the driver again, but this time you may want to
add the \DisableCrossrefs command to speed up processing.

You can also write

\setcounter{IndexColumns}{number}

to change the number of columns for the index (default is 3).

 > More generally, does anyone know where I can find an explanation of
 > how this whole docstrip/documentation producing business works, and
 > how I write the "driver" to produce the documentation in other
 > self-documenting files?

Apart from the original publication in TUGboat some years ago, there
isn't anything available yet.  Wait another two weeks, then we will
distribute the new version of doc, complete with documentation.


   Rainer Schoepf
   Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum                       ,,Ich mag es nicht, wenn
    fuer Informationstechnik Berlin            sich die Dinge so frueh
   Heilbronner Strasse 10                      am Morgen schon so
   W-1000 Berlin 31                            dynamisch entwickeln!''
   Federal Republic of Germany
   <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de> or <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.dbp.de>
From: AE2Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: info about fonts for tex
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:03 EST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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ithaca, august 13, 1992

I am looking for alternative fonts for tex, other than
the computer modern family, preferably in the public
domain.  In particular, I would like to know about
the existence of courier fonts.  I will appreciate
any help about this.

Please reply to
Nelson L. Dias
ae2y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (internet)

thanks in advance.
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From: dwagon@nella6.cc.monash.edu.au (Dougal Scott)
Subject: Typesetting Long Division
Keywords: asm latex, maths, long division
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:55:45 GMT

I am typesetting a set of Signal Processing lecture notes, and I need to
typeset some long divisions, especially polynomials. I have tried doing a few
small ones with array style, and using clines to get the horizontal lines but
it looks shoddy, and is tedious to do. Does anyone know of any easy way to do
this? I am using AMS-LaTeX.
-- 
Dougal Scott-Dougal.Scott@fcit.monash.edu.au  Faculty of Computing & Info Tech
I am eager for the pleasures of the flesh more    Monash University, Caulfield
than for salvation, my soul is dead, so I shall            Victoria, AUSTRALIA 
look after the flesh. -Carmina Burana
From: johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: wp2latex source
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:33:59 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.

I have now a C-source of wp2latex aveilable. If anybody is interested, 
please mail me. To use wp2latex, you need also the file wp2latex.sty,
which I posted here a few days ago.

 ____________________________________________________________________ 
 | J.C.A. Wevers                |         u\  _\       /e+        2 |
 | johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl |     1 |   \ u \  X  /         |   |
 |------------------------------| P = - |    >   >---<     + ...|   |
 |     The only nature of       |     N |   /   /     \         |   |
 |     reality is physics       |         u/   /d     u\            |
 +------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: ps2mf
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:27:41 GMT
Reply-To: ilh@lcs.mit.edu
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems
In-reply-to: rhorne@cix.compulink.co.uk's message of 20 Aug 92 12:36:36 GMT

I don't know when/where you got your ps2mf, but I may have written
your hints.mf.

If your hints.mf is the one I wrote:

Take it from me, hints.mf is a total hack.  I have long since stopped
using ps2mf in favor of the ps2pk package.  Use ps2pk instead!  You
can get it by anonymous ftp:

ftp.urc.tue.nl:/pub/tex/ps2pk12.tar.Z
ftp.urc.tue.nl:/pub/tex/ps2pk386.zip (precompiled for 386 machine)

It renders a font (on my SPARC 1) in about two seconds as opposed to
ps2mf's two minutes, because it bypasses MF.  Produces PK files
directly, too.

--
Lee Hetherington
From: "Phillip E. Parker" <PPARKER@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: "risky" PD software
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 18:07:58 CDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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I don't understand: how is running PD software risky if the user has access
to files he is not supposed to show to anyone? Specifically, why is it more
risky than running Wordperfect etc.?

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% |__)     Wichita St. Univ.         Internet: pparker@twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu
% |        Wichita KS  67260-0033         Fax: 1-316-689-3748
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From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Multi-page tabular environment.
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:49:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.214322.21807@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, jscotti@lpl.arizona.edu (Jim Scotti x2717) writes:
> I have had the problem of building a tabular environment longer than
> one page in length in LaTeX.  Is there a simple way of having a pagebreak
> automatically happen within the environment?  I've had to manually break
> the tabular environment (which causes problems when an additional entry
> has to be inserted...) with a \newpage.  Is there something I've 
> overlooked?  I'd use a tabbing environment, which will pagebreak on
> its own, but I found another bug with that while trying to put accents
> over characters.

Look up accents inside of tabbing in the LaTeX book. As for a long tabular,
try David Carlisle's longtable. Get DM Jones tex-index from niord.shsu.edu--
everyone should get a copy and read before posting.

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: ervin@ab.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: How do I underline LaTex Headings?
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:37:15 GMT
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

I am using LaTex on a Mac to typeset a document.

I would like to underline the headings of the document just like 
the format of the LaTex book.

Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Chuck Ervin
Alderson-Broaddus College
From: bgeorge@sleepy.sanders.lockheed.com (E. Bryan George)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: picture environment spacing problem
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:03:54 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Lockheed Sanders Inc.


I've been trying to allocate integral multiples of line spacing
(vertical) to a picture environment in LaTeX; to suppress all extra
vertical spacing, I've tried setting the following style parameters to
zero:

\parskip
\topsep
\partopsep
\parsep
\itemsep

which covers all vertical spacing in paragraph mode and list-making
environments (at least the ones mentioned in the LaTeX manual).
Still, LaTeX insists on sneaking just a little bit of extra vertical
space in between the text and the picture environment.

Am I missing some style parameter?  If not, is there some way I can
coerce LaTeX into foregoing this annoying behavior?  Or is this yet
another case of LaTeX being too smart for its own good?  Inquiring
minds want to know.

Thanks,

Bryan
--
E. Bryan George, Ph.D.
Principal Electrical Engineer
Signal Processing Center of Technology
Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
Nashua, NH USA
From: carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk (David Carlisle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Problem with tabularx
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:26:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: maassen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de's message of 17 Aug 92 07:10:23 GMT

>>>>> On 17 Aug 92 07:10:23 GMT, maassen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Andreas Maassen) said:
Andreas> Nntp-Posting-Host: kreon

Andreas> I have a macro which uses nested tabular environments. To be precise,
Andreas> the outer tabular environment has a p{...} column which contains
Andreas> another tabular environment.

Andreas> Now I've tried to replace the inner tabular environment by tabularx,
Andreas> which does not work. Here is what I get:


Andreas> Runaway argument?
Andreas>  Erster \unskip \relax \@endpbox \hskip \col@sep 
Andreas> ! Forbidden control sequence found while scanning use of \TX@get@body.
Andreas> <inserted text> 
Andreas>                 \par 
Andreas> <to be read again> 
Andreas>                    \endtemplate 
Andreas> <template> ...ndpbox \hskip \col@sep \endtemplate 
Andreas>                                                   
Andreas> <argument> Erster &
Andreas>                     Versuch dfhgkjdf kljkddhgkjd kljddhfgkjdf kjkddhgjkdf\\
Andreas> \interf #1#2->\begin {tabularx}{5cm}{lX} #1
Andreas>                                             \end {tabularx}\\\\\begin {tabul...
Andreas> l.9 ...jdf kljkddhgkjd kljddhfgkjdf kjkddhgjkdf\\}
Andreas>                                                   ^

Firstly `tabularx' is not a standard latex command, so you ought to
have mentioned the style and version number you were using. Also my
email address is at the top of the file, so you could have used that.

Anyway, it looks like a bug to me. A temporary fix is to surround the
inner tabularx environment with braces  {..}, as in

  {\begin {tabularx}{5cm}{lX}
   ....
   \end{tabularx}}

In the next release I will either mention this in the documentation,
or include a better fix in the code (If I can think of anything).
Thanks for reporting the bug!

David
--
                           David Carlisle
                                    JANET: carlisle@uk.ac.man.cs

                                    Computer Science Department
                                    Manchester University
                                    Oxford Road
                                    Manchester
                                    England
                                    M13 9PL
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: amun@quads.uchicago.edu (james frederick amundson)
Subject: LaTeX Table of Contents...
Summary: How do I make my table of contents work with Roman?
Keywords: LaTeX
Reply-To: amun@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:28:21 GMT

Would some kind soul take pity on me? I am writing a paper. I need to
use roman numerals for the section numbers. No problem. I Read The
Friendly Manual (Lamport) and found that I need to do
	\renewcommand{\thesection}{\Roman{section}}.
Fine. It's in the manual in so many words. What *isn't* in the manual
is that the above command wrecks the table of contents. The first item
(I) looks fine in the table of contents. The third item (III) is
crowded against the section heading. By the seventh item the roman
numerals overlap with the section heading.

The LaTeX book is no help on this whatsoever. I've tried reading the
LaTeX source, but I can't quite figure out what to do. Can someone
show me what I have to redefine to get a reasonable amount of space
between my numbers and section headings in the table of contents?
Thanks much.

--Jim Amundson
From: JUL@MATH.AMS.ORG (jul)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: RE: \boldsymbol
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:03:43 GMT
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From: anita@ravel.udel.edu (Anita Zanolini Hoover)
Subject: Re: Subsubsection title in report's table of contents
Keywords: LaTeX, .toc, subsection
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:11:29 GMT

In article <86590@netnews.upenn.edu> degraff@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Michel F. DeGraff) writes:
=>For some reason, LaTeX would not insert subsubsection titles in the table of
=>contents of a report-style document.  This happens even though the title of the
=>subsubsection is included in the .toc file as follows:
=>
=>\contentsline {chapter}{\numberline {1}Introduction}{1}
=>\contentsline {section}{\numberline {1.1}Objectives}{1}
=>\contentsline {section}{\numberline {1.2}Methods}{5}
=>\contentsline {subsubsection}{First Method}{12}
=>\contentsline {subsubsection}{Second Method}{13}
=>

There is a counter that LaTeX uses to determine the level of entries
that should appear in the TOC.  By default this counter is 2, which
means only chapter and section will produce entries that appear in the
TOC.  Just change this to 4 if you want subsection and subsubsection
to appear.  Put the following in the preamble area (after \documentstyle
and before \begin{document})


\setcounter{tocdepth}{4}
From: edrbtsn@bigeye.cs.indiana.edu (Ed Robertson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: want full evaluation like \edef
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:34:13 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

The primitive command \edef expands its second arguement before
assigning it (as a macro definition) to its first arguement.
However, primitive commands inside the second arguement are not
executed.

This comes up when I have, from some library, a macro \libmac which
won't evaluate properly is a strange environment.  So instead of
saying
	\strangeenvironment{ ... \libmac ... }
I try
	\edef\temp{\libmac}
	\strangeenvironment{ ... \temp ... }
This works fine if \libmac has no primitive commands.  But if \libmac
has, say, a nested \edef, the \edef is passed thru with other partial
evaluations of \libmac.

What I want is a \fulledef, so that
	\fulledef\temp{\libmac}
fully evaluates \libmac before assigning it to \temp.  There are obvious
problems specifying how far to evaluate, so such a \fulledef would
need to be used with care.
From: std2037@if.uidaho.edu (Alok Shukla)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: What TeX to use?
Date: 12 Aug 1992 17:57:49 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hi there,
 I have the following hardware/software with me:
                   
   An AT-compatible machine with 486-33Mhz CPU running Dos 5.0. It has
 4-megs of RAM and 200-Megs of space on the hard drive. In addition, I also
 have a color super VGA monitor and a Canon BJ-10ex printer. 
  
 I recently went through the FAQ which listed various tex related software,
and where one could get it. However, I didn't find any recommendations as to
what tex package is most suitable for what machine(8086, 80286, 80386,...).    

 To those of you, who have used Tex/LaTex on AT-compatible machines, my 
question is:

   What Tex package would utilize the above mentioned machine configuration to
its maximum possible extent?? I am mostly interested in LaTex packages
available in public domain.  

 thanks a lot  

--Alok Shukla
From: BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG (bbeeton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re:  Grouping text
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:40:41 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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david bolen (comp.text.tex, 18 aug 92) asks how to group a block of
text so that it is sure to stay on one page.

assuming that only text is involved (nothing defined as a \*box at
the outer level), there are two obvious cases;
 - a full, single paragraph
 - a heading followed by paragraphed text, or multiple paragraphs

in the case of the single paragraph, it can be packed into a group
either by \begingroup ... \endgroup or by {...} .  in either case,
the instruction \interlinepenalty=10000 placed inside the group at
the beginning will say "no page breaks within this text".  it's a
a good idea to make sure that the paragraph ends before the end of
the group; \endgraf or a blank line before the closing will take
care of that.  this could relatively easily be built into a new
environment.

when there is a return to vmode within the scope of the desired
group, an additional action is necessary.  after entering vmode,
but before any vertical skip, insert \penalty=10000 or its synonym
\nobreak .  (be absolutely certain you're in vmode -- \nobreak
also operated in hmode to prevent line breaks.)  there are ways
to make this automatic, but the use described by mr bolen sounds
as if he often wishes to select the scope himself.

i happen to believe that there's virtually *no* circumstance in
which a heading should be separated from the following text at a
page boundary.  unfortunately, latex 2.09 isn't very robust in
this respect, and i'm not prepared to suggest how to fix it (though
i've done so in certain very limited applications); for this
situation to be corrected permanently, i think we'll have to wait
for latex 3.  until then, one could try using \nobreak, but i'm
not certain it will always work as intended; the latex code simply
tries to be too smart, and can subvert even a practiced user at
times.
						-- bb
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