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From: longplay@iastate.edu (Larry B Patrick)
Subject: Sybil works...
Summary: Sybil works...
Keywords: Sybil, Jim Drew, hardware
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:43:13 GMT

Hello,
	I would like to say that the Sybil hardware works fine for converting
MAC disks.  I can convert DS/DD MAC disk to AMAX and use them fine.  I am 
using the Converter that comes with Emplant.  I do not own Emplant as of yet
though.  I have converted MAC to AMAX and File.  My next test is to go back to
MAC though.
	I have a 500 and a A590, 2MB Chip, 2MB Fast, Kickswitcher with 1.3
and 2.0, and 60MB Hard Drive.  I do not own a mac drive as of yet, but with 
Sybil I don't need one.
	I don't use the Mac Calibrate, it is a good place to start though, but
tell it to read a disk and listen to the drive.  I adjust the pot on Sybil till
the drive steps evenly with hardly no hesitations.
	Later..
		Longplay@fs-5.iastate.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: hemenovr@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (michael anthoney)
Subject: Mac emulation on A500
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:54:37 GMT

Whoever that guy was who just said that there was no Mac emulator for the Amiga 500 is WAY OFF. DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM!!! The original AMAX was designed specifically to work on the A500. Granted, the AmaxII+ board will not fit in a A500 you can still get
the original AMAx and a Mac drive and do alot of the same stuff. Anyway, check around, don't just listen to some no nothing here on this board. Also, to the guy who told him that there was no Mac emulator for the A500, be careful. Someone has come to t
this board looking for informed advice. He plans on basing wether he buys a new machine or not on the answer to his question. If you are not absolutely positive about your answer then don't say anything. By the way, I own a A500 and I run Amax with the
2.5 software and have no problems with it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: pcrayne@halcyon.com (Peter C. Crayne)
Subject: Re: Innovative uses of Emplant (if it ever works)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:46:44 GMT

In article <Bz9Atp.FoA@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>
>   Other possibilities are also possible; with the way Emplant allows Mac and
>Amiga software to run at the same time, one is only limited by their own 
>creative limits.  For instance, the Mac has someing similar to ARexx called
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>AppleScript.  This allows certain apps to control other apps similar to the
 ^^^^^^^^^^^
No it doesn't. Applescript has been a long, LONG awaited funtionality
that was promised way back when System 7.0 was first announced. Then it
was postponed.. Maybe in 7.1. Nope, not in that one either. I have
wanted to have that for a long time now, and have nearly given up hope.
There are third party alternatives, such as the one reviewed in a recent
TidBits column (on info-mac), but it is expen$ive.

>way ARexx does things.  The Mac also has hot-linking facilities built-in as
>well.  One can imagine a unique set of tools to allow Mac processes and Amiga
>processes to communicate.  Imagine an ARexx port for the whole Emplant 
>emulator, to send commands to AppleScript from ARexx, for example.  Or a way
>to tie the Mac hot-linking facilities to the Amiga hot-linking system created
>by SoftLogic.  
>
>   I am sure that others could think of even better ideas.  Just be creative!

On the whole, you are right though. There are some cool possibilities.
Just because you all like Amigas better, doesn't neccessarily mean that
Macs are useless. Keep an open mind.

>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu

-Pete (Oh my god, I'm agreeing with MB, someone shoot me) :-)
From: euabos@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Bostrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Power & Emulation
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:47:17 GMT
Reply-To: euabos@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden

In article 6225@desire.wright.edu, fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu () writes:
>In article <0f=Ih6i00WB44m1YQD@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jonathan Robert Avrach <ja2z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> 
  ...
>> models).  Is there software emulation available to make my Amiga run
>> Macintosh programs?  If so, how good is it?  What kind of Mac does it
>
>	Yes, yes, yes, your in the right newsgroup.  You will need at least a
>	A2000 to do MAC emulation.  As far as I know there is no MAC emulator
>	for the A500.
>

Oops! Just a minute. Back home I run AMAX II on my A500! It works very well!!!
If You don't need Mac specific hardware (appletalk etc.=AMAX II+), AMAX II works fine.
 (AMAX II+ needs somewhere to place the card...)
/anders

>> Jon Avrach
>> 
>Fred Heitkamp, ** Not an organization,  My opinions only **
>
From: Opal_Sullen@republik.fidonet.org (Opal Sullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Reasons for a notebook amiga
Distribution: world
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:11:48 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

In a message dated Tue 15 Dec 92  9:08, Magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca wrote:

 MM> I was talking to a CBM guy at WOC Toronto.  He said a batter powered
 MM> notebook was impossible at the moment because of the power drain, but
 MM> the next chip set was going to be CMOS making it possible to have a
 MM> notebook.

my question is WHY get an amiga notebook when there is NO DECENT
productiviyt software avialable?

picture this: You are at the university with your study group working on a
project... it comes time to put all of your compositional work together
into a single document... they hand you an ibm disc and you MUST read the
stuff in in ascii--all formatting is lost.  you KNOW they will never hand
you an amiga disc, right?  for me, using word and excel on a powerbook
makes the best sense.  thus offers almost universal compatibility.  if the
amiga ever approaches this kind of ease OF TRANSPORTABILITY of INFORMATION
then i might get one.  right now though, you would have to be stupid to buy
an amiga  notebook at any cost unless you had no plans of sharing data w/
anyone else.

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From: glovercj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Power & Emulation
Summary: What u Need for power & Emu
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:27:18 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <0f=Ih6i00WB44m1YQD@andrew.cmu.edu> ja2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan
Robert Avrach) writes:
>
>I have had my A500 for about 4 years now.  I do so much on it now
>(especially with networking) that I require more POWER!  Things like a

Get a GVP 530 Accelerator or a CSA Deringer($295) 030 25mhz accelerator. 

>
>A major factor is emulation.  I would like to have this new Amiga
>accurately (not perfectly, I realize) emulate an IBM and MAC.  Is this
>

Get Amax II, the cartride version and Amax 2.5 Software version. For IBM
Emulation, in the GVP Accelerator, there is a direct slot for a 286 emulator I
believe or you can get a software emulator like PCtask.

                                     Chad J Glover
                                 glovercj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu      
                             Drexel University Software Testing Lab
                       If a man hasn't found something he will die for, he
                                  isn't fit to live. --MLK
From: jharris@cup.portal.com (John D Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: emplant pointer
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:36:24 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>I will most likely be removing the WRITE routines for AMAX disks.  This
>is way to get people to use EMPLANT format which is by far more reliable
>and faster than AMAX format.  Also, the EMPLANT format has the ability to
>store nearly 900K on a floppy as opposed to the standard 800K MAC disk.
>
Instead of removing support for writing AMax, why not just tell people the
advantages of using EMPLANT format disks?  Until this post, I did not know
it was a larger disk format, and quite frankly was surprised that you
bothered to develop another format.  Since the initial version would
corrupt any EMPLANT format disks whenever they were written to, they were
neither faster nor more reliable.  :-)

I understand that's fixed now, and since I now know why it's a new format,
I'll use it.  Thanks for the extra space.  I suspect others will use it
and appreciate the advantages too, but please don't *force* us to, by
eliminating our full compatiblity with AMax users.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT for 1200?
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:54:17 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <jdrew.0lph@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:
>
>In <1992Dec14.125602.45621@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, kudart@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
>There will an A1200 version of EMPLANT in the first quarter of '93.  I
>won't commit to an exact date (learned my lesson last time!).

Good idea...

> 
>There won't be real much difference in emulation speed than an A3000. 
>Since there is no DMA contention (the biggest problem when using 16 color
>hi-res displays) the video speed is better than any speed non-AGA machine.
> 
>The only model available for the A1200 will include the
>serial/AppleTalk/Printer ports, and no SCSI interface.  Since this is a
>PCMCIA card, there is not a lot of room to be hanging things off of the
>side of the computer...just two 8 pin mini-din connectors.

This sounds very cool. but... just how are you going to fit the Mac ROMS into
a PCMCIA card? The cards are pretty thin and there will be no room for your
funky simm socket expansion connector. And the current EMPLANT uses
the MMU (at least thats what the posts here emply) The A1200 has no MMU.

I just don't see how you're gonna do this.

Ian.
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|Currently Amigaless soon to   | Eagle Talon TSI AWD/ABS/Turbo     |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: mrubino@csws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino)
Subject: Re: AMAX->SyQuest
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:50:57 GMT

In article <12DEC199200561569@sigma.tamu.edu> tww2568@sigma.tamu.edu (WEEKS, THOMAS WILLIAM) writes:
>So if you format the SyQuest as a 'real' Mac cartridge.. how will the SCSI
>interface SEE teh Amigados device AMAX0: ???  ..

Simple, it doesn't.

>I am using an A500 SeriesII and right now, the way Amax SEES the drive is by
>having the AmigaDos device AMAX0:...  If you format it on a Mac, you will not
>have the Commodore RDB block, telling AmigaDos (or Amax) that the device AMAX0:
>even exists...

AmigaDOS doesn't matter at all.  A-Max just wants some kind of pointer to your
HD controller.  This pointer doesn't even have to be a partition.  Under A-Max
II v2.5x you must either give it a file transfer partition (AmigaDOS) or tell
it which scsi driver to use (eg gvpscsi.amhd).  Make sure you have a cartridge
in the drive when you boot A-Max.  A-Max will NOT ask you to format the
cartridge, you must use a formatting utility (just like on a real Mac).  If
the cart was pre-formatted on a Mac, A-Max should recognize it right off the
bat.  If not you may need a special INIT or SCSI Probe.

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From: Geoff@equinox.gen.nz (Geoff Mccaughan)
Subject: Re: ST emulator? Amiga em. for Sun?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:34:43 +1200
Organization: Equinox Networks

Quang Ngo (quang@yosemite.cs.csufresno.edu) wrote:

>>I haven't seen an Amiga emulator for ANY machine... anybody know of one?

>There is an Amiga emulator for UNIX somewhere that only emulates
>exec.library.  That means you only can run text based programs.

I have seen [bit not used] this. It does require a 680x0 based unix box. A
Sun 2 or 3 should be OK.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: SyQuests
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:50:32 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Dec6.000138.5409@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrubino@csws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino) writes:
>
>When you want for format an entire hard drive (or cartridge) under A-Max you
>don't do ANYTHING in AmigaDOS.  If you set it up as AMAX0: then A-Max will want
>to format it as a 'pseudo' Mac partition.
>
>To format a 'real' Mac cartridge you must have Mac formatting software.  Some
>utilities don't work properly under A-Max so you may have to experiment.  Once
>this is done it will work perfectly on a real Mac.
>
>And yes I have done this, and yes it works beautifully.
>
>Perhaps you should RTFM :-)

I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!!

Before you "experiment" with formatting Mac drives on the Amiga,
under AMax, Emplant, or WHATEVER...

     BACKUP YOUR AMIGA HARD DISK!!!!

I lost my entire 105 Quantum in my 3000...

In the middle of trying to format a Mac drive under AMAX 2,
the drive lights locked up bright... system died... no reboot...

no Amiga partitions... no Mac partitions...

no nuthin'.

Be careful.  Back it up.
From: jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT works and here is why.
Date: 12 Dec 92 10:43:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <jdrew.0lgd@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:
>
>The reason that EMPLANT is in ALL caps is that EMPLANT is an acronym for
>Electronic Micro-Processor Level Amiga Native Task - E.M.P.L.A.N.T.

Ahh, I see.  Very cute!  ;-)

>There is indeed a SIMM socket that has been designed to accept virually
>ANY kind of a logic board, including (but not limited too) processors,
>graphic conversion hardware, operating systems, etc.
> 
>The IBM emulation at this point will be all software....don't choke..
>using the EMPLANT's hardware, we can make this happen at a reasonable
>speed....worst case, we can put a 80x86 on board.

What hardware on the EMPLANT board is of use to an 80x86 emulation,
if there is no 80x86?


Jeremy

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From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: AppleIIGS to Amiga/MS-DOS format
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:40:24 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

In article <Bz9Gx0.Ay3@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> kevint@sad.hp.com (Kevin Taddeucci) writes:
>I was at a computer show this weekend and picked up a box of Amiga 
>software for $10 dollars. It turns out there was an AppleIIGS disk of 
>Electronic Arts clipart in the box. Does anyone know if it is possible to 
>copy this disk on and AmigaDOS or MS-DOS 720k format disk?
>
>       ----------------------------- ------------------------------------
>      | Kevin J. Taddeucci          | e-mail: kevint@hpsad.sad.hp.com    |
>      | Hewlett Packard Firmware QA | HPDesk: Kevin TADDEUCCI /HP5300/A0 |
>      | Telnet: 794-4192            | HP Mailstop: 2LR-N                 | 
>       ----------------------------- ------------------------------------
>

I would also like this information.

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: thack@matt.cs.unlv.edu (Terence Carroll)
Subject: Re: ST emulator? Amiga em. for Sun?
Reply-To: thack@matt.cs.unlv.edu (Terence Carroll)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:13:53 GMT

There is a UNIX port of the AmigaDos routines... It allows you to compile amiga programs (in C) that do text or something... Can't remember anything specific but the source is available, and the author was hoping to see it expanded in the future...

T_Hack
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: scottl@nick.csh.rit.edu (Jerry!)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT works and here is why.
Organization: Computer Science House @ RIT
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:55:19 GMT

In article <jdrew.0lgd@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:
>
>>  last Spring, he [Jim Drew] 
>> said that we would be able to plug in a 386/486/whatever
>> Intel chip and have EMPLANT emulate a PC clone as well.
>> (Perhaps even concurrently).
>> 
>There is indeed a SIMM socket that has been designed to accept virually
>ANY kind of a logic board, including (but not limited too) processors,
>graphic conversion hardware, operating systems, etc.
> 
>The IBM emulation at this point will be all software....don't choke..
>using the EMPLANT's hardware, we can make this happen at a reasonable
>speed....worst case, we can put a 80x86 on board.

   What?  I thought this Emplant board was this AWESOME new MAC/*86/WHATEVER
_generic_emulator_ (as I believe it was originally stated.)  What's the deal??
I can get a software 8086 emulator for my amiga.  Granted, I understand that
the Macintosh emulator would be awesome if it is as good as the original specs
said it would be, but you see what has hpppened with the IBM(tm) clone 
portion of it!!!  Well, I'm definitly not going to buy Emplant now that I see
your tactics.  


	P.S. Did anyone out there ever get Sybil working???


>Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
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From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Linux for Amiga? Well Minix anyway...
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:34:55 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

>Hi, I was just wondering if there was any kind of unix-like clone
>(preferably on the free side) for the Amiga, kinda like the Linux project.
>I know someone was working on a Mach port, and perhaps a BSD but I haven't
>heard anything in quite a while now...

A Minix port exists.  You can get a demo version via ftp but I don't
remember where now.  It has the two updates there that allow the
commercial version to work with 68020+ and Hard Drives (well at least
commodore drives.)  I'll look for the site name but you might try
posting in comp.unix.amiga for a quicker response.

> 
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From: wolfie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re:New PC Emulator
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:44:44 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <Bywn2o.41z@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:
> In article <Byw1so.8z0@cen.ex.ac.uk> cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel) writes:
>>Any idea how much any Pc Emulations cost ???
> 
>    
>      You can try out the Fredfish demo called PCtask for free, sort of speak.
> 
> Otherwise, emulator prices range anywhere from $40.00 to over $100.00.
> 
> 
> 
>      BTW, I got the PCTask demo, and I cannot seem to run any games on my
> A4000.  I personally do net like to spent the $40.00 just to find out that
> even the complete version can not run games either.  Does anyone know
> whether if the complete version runs IBM games or not?  Thanks.
> 
>                                                            -TKH '92
> 
> P.S.  I guess you can tell that I am getting very tired of my game machine 
>       being unable of playing games, even with chip set selection, fast mem., 
>       blah...blah...blah...

I have PC-Task running on an A2000 with a 28mhz. Fusion Forty board, and
I have no trouble running BattleChess or Classic Concentration (cheesy, I
know). I also regularly run Turbo Pascal with no problems.


				-Marc



Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT works and here is why.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 04:15:14 GMT

In article <jdrew.0lgd@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:

>The IBM emulation at this point will be all software....don't choke..
>using the EMPLANT's hardware, we can make this happen at a reasonable
>speed....worst case, we can put a 80x86 on board.


I would like to see a 386 on a board.  How much does a 386 cpu cost these
days? ...not very damn much.  If you guys don't want to do it, why don't
you farm it out?  It would make your board much more attractive.  Everyone
wants good PC emulation.


                                       NCW
From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: QL Sinclair emulator
Keywords: hey!
Date: 20 Dec 92 11:29:56 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149

Hey, does anybody have that new QL Sinclair emulator?  I got it
yesterday but it's hard to install...  has anybody gotten it to work?

BTW, is it possible for someone to send me an image of the Apple II+ ROM
for that Amiga Apple2+ Emulator?  (I'm surprised, the II+ emulator is TINY..
what..24k or so?)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations