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From: greenspan05@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Entrepreneurs to gather at Wharton
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:17:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
			Proudly Presents

The 6th Annual  Mid-Atlantic Conference on Entrepreneurship

			November 14, 1992
			Univ. of Pennsylvania
			Philadelphia, PA

Featuring Keynote Speakers.............................

Orville & Gary Redenbacher	& 	Jim Koch
Founder & Grandson			President
Orville Redenbacher Popcorn		Boston Beer Company
					Samuel Adams Beer

along with 15 other top entrepreneurs from around the country!!!!

The Mid-Atlantic Conference is intended for the innovative individual who
strives to achieve his/her goals.  Last year more than 200 students and
business people from several states and universities gathered to learn from the
experiences of successful entrepreneurs.  If you want more than you can get
from reading books, talking on networks, or going to class, the Mid-Atlantic
Conference is for you.  17 top entrepreneurs will speak on topics that pertain
directly to your business - from critical early stages of growth to national
and international expansion.  Whether an undergraduate or graduate college
student, business owner, or entrepreneur, this conference could be one of the
smartest business moves you make.  Make contacts, Network with the best and
brightest, and STRIVE FOR SUCCESS!!!!!

The following seminars will be offered this year:

Starting the Right Business		Franchising 101: A Crash Course
Getting your Foot in the Door		Advertising for Results: Choosing
	for New Business			the Right Medium
Hiring and Managing your Team		Raising Venture Capital
MArketing in the '90s			Negotiating to Win
The Tax Advantaged Entrepreneur		Acquiring a Small Business
New Opportunities in Int'l Trade	Going Global
Keeping One Step ahead of the 		Identifying, Managing, and Preparing
	Competition				for Growth
Managing your Finances

The full day conference starts at 9:00am and ends at 4:45 pm with registration
from 8:00am until 9:00am.  The event includes continental breakfast, buffet
lunch, and all conference materials.  Conference Registration is $75.00 ($60.00
early bird before November 7, 1992) Full-time student registration is $25.00
with valid photocopy of student identification.  To receive a brochure(s) or if
you have any questions, reply via vax or telephone (215) 573-7917, Howard
Greenspan, or (215) 386-6129, Paul Horrock, Conference Directors.

Student leaders, Club Presidents, and College Professors:  If you would like
your group, class, or organization to take part in this exciting event, please
contact us and we can send out multiple brochures and information packets. 
Requests can be made by phone, vax, or through the mail at
			Mid-Atlantic Conference
			Snider Entrepreneurial Center
			4th Floor - Vance Hall
			3733 Spruce Street
			Philadelphia,  PA  19104


Newsgroups: misc.headlines
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: arf defends his honor
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: misc
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:02:02 GMT

Now ARF (Jack Schmidling) complains about the fact that Damanjuk
was extradited to Israel, and calls to vote for Perot in retalliation
(some time ago, he claimed Perot was a Zionist agent, and launched
a campaign against him).

I think Arfie is trying to be smart - he hopes people will vote for
Perot instead of Clinton. IMHO, BTW, Bush will win anyway, *even*
with Arfie supporting him.

And why doesn't Arfie complain about Feudorenko, who was extradited
to the USSR at the same time Damanjuk was to Israel? Damanjuk
got a fair trial, Feudorenko a quick bullet in the head.

-Danny Keren.

Newsgroups: misc.headlines,ca.politics
From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Re: arf defends his honor
Date: 27 Sep 92 09:33:38 CST
Distribution: misc
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Sep26.1290.7850@execnet>, tom.betz@execnet.com (tom betz) writes:
> Quoth Seth R Rosenthal regarding ARF DEFENDS HIS HONOR on 09-25-92:
> 
> SR>Demjanjuk was deported not because
> SR>he was Ivan of Treblinka.  He was deported because there was
> SR>documentation that he had lied on his immigration papers about his
> SR>collaboration with the Nazis.  U.S. law strictly forbade immigration
> SR>of anyone who had any connection with the Nazi party, or collaborated
> SR>with the German occupying forces.
> 
> Unless, of course, the DSS/cum CIA felt it had need of their talents.
> 
> Thousands of Nazi collaborators and SS officers were imported by US 
> intelligence agencies under false identities.
> 
> 
	My understanding is that the OSS imported those thought to have
some potential future use in the intelligence game...all of which speaks
quite highly of intelligence agencies, doesn't it?  Demjanjunk, however,
appears to have led the life of a model citizen as an auto worker and
probably knew nothing of political value to anyone.  Our Justice Dept.
withheld information that probably would have stayed his extradition and
those in authority, believing he was Ivan of Treblinka, exported him.
He was not the person the Justice Dept. claimed he was.  If he was a
real criminal, the mess should be cleared up in this country.  Further,
one cannot overlook the flaws in Israeli justice by which many senior
citizens mistakenly identified Demjanjuk as Ivan of Treblinka.  Although
I can understand their desire for justice or even vengeance, so many
mistakes suggest underhanded techniques by the prosecution at the best
and give the affair the atmosphere of a Soviet show trial.
	I have trouble with one other point on this matter.  Assume he
was a guard of the worst sort who brutalized prisoners.  There were
prisoners of many nationalities who were victims at such camps.  If
extradition were in order, it seems he should be extradicted to the
country where the crimes actually took place...Lithuania or wherever.
Israel was not yet a nation when any such crimes took place.  What was
the legal rationale for extradition to Israel?
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.mideast
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Jack S Slams Holocaust Survivors (Was: ARF DEFENDS HIS HONOR)
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:25:33 GMT

Nora writes:

#But Jack, I thought you saw being Ivan the Terrible as something to
#be *proud* of! No doubt you'd try to claim the title, if you thought
#you'd get out of the process with your skin...

Some people might be scratching their heads in disbelief, but I
think the above is an exaggeration. It is certainly true of the
B-CPU crowd and their fuehrers, but I wouldn't attribute such a
conjecture to arfie.

BTW, this is, most probably, NOT the beggining of a wonderful
friendship.

-Danny Keren.
From: eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Thistles
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:34:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <BvGsGq.C77@news.orst.edu> tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu (Glenn Tinseth) writes:
>In the process of making a list of the things we need to do to get
>our 10 acres ready for livestock (just for us i.e. a couple of sheep,
>2-3 weaner hogs, etc), I noticed that a pasture that horses were on for
>the last couple years is loaded with thistles. They seem to grow to 
>3-4 ft tall and have pink flowers that turn to fluff. Is it foolish to
>think that I (and any unsuspecting visitors) can manually get rid of these
>suckers over the next season or so? It's too late to avoid them going
>to seed this year.
>
> (some deleted)
>
>
>Thanks,
>Glenn
>-- 
> Glenn Tinseth                                 Chemistry Department
> tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu                      Oregon State University
>     Brewing all the beer I drink, drinking all the beer I brew.


You will find it difficult to do by hand.  The best method, IMHO, is
to build, borrow or rent a field sprayer.  Go out and mow the pasture
and then go back and spray the entire pasture with whatever weed spray
is recommended for thistles (I forget what we used :-).  You will probably
have to do this 2-3 times but it will be effective.  We did it to 15 acres
that had turned almost entirely to thistles and had nice grass before
summer's end.  The next year it just took some spot spraying with a hand
sprayer to keep everything in order.

BTW, get the horses and livestock off the pasture for 3-7 days after you
spray, depending on the product.  


Susan

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> Education never helped morals ... the    -- WILL           (all the usual   <
> smarter the guy, the bigger the rascal.  -- ROGERS          disclaimers)    <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Thistles
Date: 3 Oct 1992 08:12:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   A couple of goats (preferably nannies) would be happy to take
 care of those thistles for you and could supply milk and
 organic fertilizer in return.


-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence)
Subject: adding auxiliary hydraulics
Organization: Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT
Distribution: misc
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:40:05 GMT

One of our tractors, a John Deere 40 Utility, has a hydraulic pump and
a three-point hitch, but no auxiliary hydraulics.  The service manual
shows the hookup for optional auxiliary hydraulics, but every used
part dealer I've talked to has told me I have virtually no chance of
getting the original John Deere valve and piping.  So, I'm wondering
what would be involved in jury-rigging a hydraulic control valve and
couplers for an auxiliary cylilnder.

The connections shown for the factory model in the service manual look
like this:

                    ---------  pressure  -------                    
       from        |   aux   |----->----|       |                   
    hydraulic >----|  valve  | 	      	| 3-pt  |                   
       pump    	   |         |  bypass 	| hitch |                   
	           |         |-----?----|       |                   
		    ---------         	 -------                    
		      |   |           	   |            return to   
		      |   |   	      	   |----------> hydraulic   
		      v   v           	                pump        
		   to auxiliary
		     cylinder

The illustrations in the service manual are for the tricycle model of
the JD40.  For the life of me, I cannot find where the connection for
the bypass line would be on my 3-pt hitch.

My questions:

  1.  Does anyone know where the bypass line would go on a JD40
      Utility model (apparently the Standard JD40 is the same)? 

  2.  What kind of auxiliary valve do I need (closed center, power
      beyond, etc.), and is there a way to hook this up without a
      bypass line?

  3.  The pressure in the JD40 hydraulics is only 1040 pounds.  Is
      that enough to operate the tailgate on a big manure spreader,
      a harrow cylinder, a haybine, or similar equipment?  Or is the
      hydraulic system on a tractor like this too small?

Finally, does anyone have the Nebraska test figures for a John Deere
40 handy?

Thanks in advance for suggestions or advice.
-- 

				Ronald Florence
				ron@mlfarm.com
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: dtj@caffeine.cray.com (Dean Johnson)
Subject: Re: Cresote Source ?
Originator: dtj@caffeine
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:23:54 CDT


In article <1992Sep27.181949.71@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
> 
> 	We have an old fencing that is fading in color.  Originally many
> 	years ago we used cresote to finish that fence.  Cresote was a
> 	cheap black - oily substance, also used on railroad ties, pilings
> 	on a pier, and telephone poles.  Couldn't find it in the store.
> 	Has cresote been banned ?  Would it be possible to make your own ?
> 

Could you use driveway sealing tar-type stuff? It is cheaply available in 
most lumber yards. 

As word to the wise, don't use it with short pants on. I sealed my driveway 
this last weekend and I am still trying to get the stuff off my legs. 
Thankfully, it is cold as hell up here and, thus, I have no desire to wear 
shorts to work. ;-)

Just an idea...

	-Dean
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: london@SunSite.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Re: Thistles
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:45:12 GMT

>> to build, borrow or rent a field sprayer.  Go out and mow the pasture
>> and then go back and spray the entire pasture with whatever weed spray
Totally unnecessary.
>> BTW, get the horses and livestock off the pasture for 3-7 days after you
>> spray, depending on the product.         ^^[how about 3-7 years]^^  
>
>NO!!  Give your animals and your environment a break and mow the thistles.
>As long as you mow before they go to seed you will not have a problem.
>Just mow them down a couple times a year and you will have nice grass
>just about as soon as if you had used weed killer and it is much safer!

Well said. Let's hear it for natural methods turning a problem into an asset.
Thistles bring nutrients, esp. minerals, from around sub-soil zone to
become topsoil-enriching organic matter when tilled under (before going to
seed).

Lawrence
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon     psychohistorian )
Subject: Re: Cresote Source ?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:24:01 GMT

In <1992Sep27.181949.71@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil> roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:


>	We have an old fencing that is fading in color.  Originally many
>	years ago we used cresote to finish that fence.  Cresote was a
>	cheap black - oily substance, also used on railroad ties, pilings
>	on a pier, and telephone poles.  Couldn't find it in the store.
>	Has cresote been banned ?  Would it be possible to make your own ?

creosote is considered a carsonogen. i used some once in the construction
of a sub bumper (just like it sounds, goes between a pier and a submarine)
the structure was mostly creosote soaked wood. the 'chips, and saw dust'
would burn your skin if left on to long. i can imagine if it was in your eye.
we did this in the middle of summer and felt good about wearing rain suits
to keep this crap off of us (this was july-aug in norfolk va, not what
i would consider the coolest time of year.
to make some you will need a stove that you can smolder a fire in, and prefer-
ably a long stack (to cool the exhaust gasses and condese the creosote)
burn stuff like green pine, mostly green anything but esp green softwoods.
the gasses will condense in the stack and drain down the stack and into
whatever bucket you have waiting for them. remember it is nasty stuff,
thats your groundwater that could get wasted. do you really, really 
want to do this????????

bill pociengel

ps yes i told you simplistically how to make the stuff. please excersize
extreme caution should you decide to manufacture some of this.
--
llbi locgeenpi " i'm a little confused right now"
From: eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth)
Subject: Re: Thistles
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:33:35 GMT

In article <BvnMvF.DxM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
>eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth) writes:
>>sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
>>>eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth) writes:
>>>>tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu (Glenn Tinseth) writes:
>>>>>[I want to get rid of some thistles]
>>>> You will find it difficult to do by hand.  The best method, IMHO, is
>>>> to build, borrow or rent a field sprayer.  Go out and mow the pasture
>>>> and then go back and spray the entire pasture with whatever weed spray
>>>> is recommended for thistles (I forget what we used :-).  You will probably
>>>> have to do this 2-3 times but it will be effective.  We did it to 15 acres
>>>> that had turned almost entirely to thistles and had nice grass before
>>>> summer's end.  The next year it just took some spot spraying with a hand
>>>> sprayer to keep everything in order.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, get the horses and livestock off the pasture for 3-7 days after you
>>>> spray, depending on the product.  
>>>> 
>>>> Susan
>>>>
>>>NO!!  Give your animals and your environment a break and mow the thistles.
>>>As long as you mow before they go to seed you will not have a problem.
>>>Just mow them down a couple times a year and you will have nice grass
>>>just about as soon as if you had used weed killer and it is much safer!
>>>
>>>I don't weed spray ANYTHING around my horses.  I used a weed whacker instead.
>>>
>>>Sue
>>
>>
>>I believe you should have used IYO (in YOUR opinion).
>>
>>Susan
>
>Susan, I think if we took a poll here, you'd find that you are _far_
>outnumbered in your "opinion."  Apparently it hasn't sunk into you yet, but
>if you need to keep your horses off the field for a week after using a
>chemical, there's a problem.  When you have neighbors, well water, livestock,
>etc. it's simply not worth the risk.
>
>It's so inanely silly to go over an entire field spraying herbicide when all
>you have to do is go over the entire field mowing.  Think about it.  You
>obviously haven't yet.
>
>	Darrin
>-- 
>
>mdchaney@iubacs mdchaney@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu mdchaney@rose.ucs.indiana.edu
>
>"This is a .signature."


Per the AG specialist at our local Extension Service, mowing thistles will
_NOT_ kill the root.  The root will simply send up a shorter stalk for the
next batch of flowers and the leaf base (at ground level) will spread.  
To eliminate thistles (which are a BIG problem here in Missouri), you will 
have to kill them with some type of herbicide.


Susan

-- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Education never helped morals ... the    -- WILL           (all the usual   <
> smarter the guy, the bigger the rascal.  -- ROGERS          disclaimers)    <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: enenkel@cs.toronto.edu (Robert Frederick Enenkel)
Subject: Re: Cresote Source ?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:46:26 GMT

bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon     psychohistorian ) writes:

>creosote is considered a carsonogen. 

Aw, it's not that bad.  Just don't get it on your skin or breathe the fumes
in an enclosed place.  It smells kinda nice in low concentrations.  Apparently
they use it in certain cough drops (no wonder they taste so gross...)

>burn stuff like green pine, mostly green anything but esp green softwoods.
>the gasses will condense in the stack and drain down the stack...

Hmmm.  Maybe that's why my fireplace chimbley is so yucky...

>thats your groundwater that could get wasted. do you really, really 
>want to do this????????

Now that could be a problem.  But wouldn't you have to spill quite a bit
on the ground for that to happen?  Or would the rain runoff from a creosote-
treated fence be enough?

>bill pociengel
>
>ps yes i told you simplistically how to make the stuff. please excersize
>extreme caution should you decide to manufacture some of this.

And try not to burn green cedar in your fireplace because you ran out of
dry wood...

Robert Enenkel
  (crazy old fool...)
    (not so old, actually)
From: tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu (Glenn Tinseth)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Thistles
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:43:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU

In the process of making a list of the things we need to do to get
our 10 acres ready for livestock (just for us i.e. a couple of sheep,
2-3 weaner hogs, etc), I noticed that a pasture that horses were on for
the last couple years is loaded with thistles. They seem to grow to 
3-4 ft tall and have pink flowers that turn to fluff. Is it foolish to
think that I (and any unsuspecting visitors) can manually get rid of these
suckers over the next season or so? It's too late to avoid them going
to seed this year.

Also is there any prohibition concerning English walnuts (we have about 100)
and livestock. I seem to recall someone mentioning horses should be kept 
away during nut falling season (now!). We won't have horses, but do pigs or
sheep have problems with walnuts too?

Cleared about 150 ft of fenceline that hadn't seen the light of day for about
25 yrs, YOW, I guess I need a bigger pocket knife:-) Only 1200 more ft to go.
I'll be using the weedeater thread this weekend! Thanks misc.rural.

Thanks,
Glenn
-- 
 Glenn Tinseth                                 Chemistry Department
 tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu                      Oregon State University
     Brewing all the beer I drink, drinking all the beer I brew.
Newsgroups: misc.rural,rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence)
Subject: wiring a 6-volt flasher
Followup-To: misc.rural
Organization: Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:14:12 GMT

I'm install a flashing amber light on an old John Deere tractor with a
6-volt, positive-ground electrical system.  The only 6-volt flasher I
could find in auto-parts stores has three connections, instead of the
two I expected, and no wiring diagram.  From the bottom, the three
pins are
			   ____________
                          /             \
		         /      -- P     \
		        |                 |
			|  | X	      | L |
			|                 |
			 \	       	 /
			  \_____________/


I tried putting the power on the `X' pin and the light on the `L' pin,
with no luck.  I've also tried a dozen variations, all without getting
the light to flash.  Questions:

   1.  How do I wire this as the equivalent of a two-wire flasher?
       If, as I expect, the `P' pin is for a pilot light, what size
       resistor can I substitute?

   2.  Could my experimenting have `cooked' the flasher?

   3.  Would a 12-volt 2-wire flasher work on a 6-volt system?

Thanks.
-- 

				Ronald Florence
				ron@mlfarm.com