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Subject: Re: Request for NCAA Regional Semi-Final Results (Women's Division I)
From: fred@ism.isc.com (Fred Simmons)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:37:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Santa Monica, CA

In article <1992Dec14.181205.28061@u.washington.edu> storti@beach (Duane Storti) writes:
>Thanks to Albert Liu for posting the scores from the regional finals, but could  
>someone please post the scores of the semi-final matches? I missed the scores  
>from UCLA vs. ASU, BYU vs. USC. and Texas vs. LSU.
>_______________________________________________________________
>Duane Storti                   University of Washington

Duane,

Just in case someone hasn't already posted these scores:

UCLA beat Arizona State in three games: 15-3 15-9 15-3

BYU beat USC in four games: 15-5 15-5 13-15 15-17

Texas beat LSU in four games: 15-9 13-15 15-12 15-4

   I attended the West Regional semifinal.  Some capsule comments:

   UCLA didn't appear to be as sharp as usual -- the scores notwithstanding.
   Team hitting was .390 (my stats, not official).  Jenny Evans (OH) had
   one of her better all round games, Natalie Williams did just fine (20+
   kills), and Marissa Hatchett blocked well but contributed little in the
   way of kills.

   BYU got some good outside heat from OH's Tea Nieminen and Shannon
   Skidmore (each 20+ kills), some nice work in the middle by 6-2 Carol
   Rawson, and excellent setting from Charlene Johnson.  USC looked, uhhh
   confused.  They appeared to be playing in "early season" form with poor
   ball handling, no coverage and ill-timed service errors.  Also, I didn't
   think that either Sue Peters or Missy McCaw set well.  Some of Lisa
   Love's substitutions surprised me, but coaches know best.  I don't want
   to alibi for SC -- BYU played very well and deserved to win.

Fred Simmons
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From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: NCAA Women's Volleyball Championship (SPOILERS!)
Originator: lewart@rsm1.physics.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Organization: UIUC Physics Department
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:58:57 GMT

Below is an AP article I shamelessly copied from the local paper with no
permission whatsoever.  I would like to see some eyewitness reports
and some statistics.

Go Illini,
Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu

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                       Stanford Spikers Stun UCLA

     ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) -- Stanford, led by four-time All-American
Bev Oden and reserve Anne Wicks, upset two-time defending champion and
previously unbeaten UCLA 3-1 on Saturday to capture the NCAA women's
volleyball title.

     No. 2 ranked Stanford, 31-2, halted the Bruins' streak of 43
consecutive wins dating back to last season, 15-8, 15-9, 6-15, 15-10
and denied UCLA's bid to become the first team in history to win three
straight national titles.

     The Bruins, 33-1 and ranked No. 1 throughout the season, had beaten
Stanford twice during the regular season.  But poor passing and hitting
by the Bruins, 21 kills by Oden and six blocks by Wicks, enabled the
Cardinal to dominate from the opening serve.

     Oden had just two hitting errors.  Freshman Cary Wendell added 16
kills and Kristi Paaso 12 for Stanford.

     UCLA's Natalie Williams, the NCAA Player of The Year, had 21 kills.
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From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (MICHAEL K ROGERS)
Subject: Re: What's a good ball to buy?
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:12:37 GMT

Walt Maley (wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu) wrote:
: IMHO the only ball to buy is the Tachikara SV5W.  You can get it by mail for
: about $37  (call 1-800-we-spike).  I realize buying by mail is somewhat
: politically incorrect, but it is cheaper.  Ask for a catalog when you call

It's the only place (i.e., by mail) I've seen the Tachikara SV5W.  I
have not seen them in stores.
From: soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Date: 10 Dec 92 16:19:54 GMT
Organization: What do you mean *I* can't do that????
In-reply-to: mcobb@scott.skidmore.edu's message of 5 Dec 92 18:33:01 GMT

about active blocking, isn't there a ruling that you can not pass (block)
over the plane of the net? moving hands to cover the block is standard, but
don't think you can break the plane...anyone else???

soph
From: li@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (hans li)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Women's NCAA V-ball South Region
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:41:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Quick update:

Florida downs Kentucky 15-13, 15-10, 16-14
Texas defeats LSU in 4 games (don't remember scores offhand)

Texas beat LSU with strong blocking repeatly stuffing L. Reise and Miller. 
With LSU's poor passing, they never really had a chance to defeat Texas.
Texas ran 3-1 sets and achieved a very high success rate (I only remember 1
that was blocked and about 3 mistimings).

The Florida vs Kentucky match lasted over 2 hours.  This really was side-out
volleyball at it's best.  In game 2, UF was stuck at 12 for about 20  inutes
while Kentucky crawled back from 15-4.  UF's passing wasn't perfect and as
a result, a lot of balls were passed extrememly close to the net.  Setter
Heidi Anderson (5'5") spent most of the night pulling balls back and as a 
result, her sets really weren't of the height that her swing hitters could
work with.  In game 3, UF came back down 8-13 to take the third game on a 
touch call on Kentucky which was called by the line judge,but missed by both
up and down refs (The only one's in the Gym who missed it, with both judges
calling it).  UF takes on Texas Saturday at 7:30 pm at the O'Dome.
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From: oski@d31mf0.Stanford.EDU (L. Ravi Narasimhan)
Subject: So, I've heard rumors about the NCAA Women's Final
Originator: oski@leland.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 03:45:16 GMT


Can anybody confirm or deny  that Stanford won?
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From: storti@beach (Duane Storti)
Subject: Request for NCAA Semi-Final Results
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:29:14 GMT

Does anyone in Albuquerque read this group? If so, and you would care to post a  
summary of the semifinal matches, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

_______________________________________________________________
Duane Storti			University of Washington
storti@u.washington.edu		Mechanical Engineering, FU-10
				Seattle, WA 98195
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From: yho@bmerh806.bnr.ca (Yue-shun Ho)
Subject: Re: NCAA Regional Results (Women's Division I)
Organization: Somewhere around Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:09:37 GMT

In article <Bz9xot.F4y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.210256.14360@brtph560.bnr.ca> ress@bnr.ca (David Ress P040) writes:
>>In article <Bz7wov.M54@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
>>|> 
>>|> Remember that the semis will be broadcast on EPSN on Friday,
>>|> December 25 at 9pm PST and Saturday, December 26 at 9pm PST.
>>|> The final will be on CBS on Sunday, January 23 at 2pm EST.
>>                                       ^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Is this a typo, or is CBS really going to wait until everyone in
>>the country has already heard who won before showing the match?
>
>No typo there.  That's when they're planning to air it, and it'll
>probably be heavily edited, too.

Definitely a typo somewhere.  According to my online UNIX calendar,
  23rd January 1993 is a Saturday.
From: Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu (Eric J. Baumgartner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: CBS Coverage (was NCAA Regional Results)
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:09:56 GMT
 <1992Dec14.210256.14360@brtph560.bnr.ca>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b3@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Dec14.210256.14360@brtph560.bnr.ca>
ress@bnr.ca (David Ress P040) writes:

> |> Remember that the semis will be broadcast on EPSN on Friday,
> |> December 25 at 9pm PST and Saturday, December 26 at 9pm PST.
> |> The final will be on CBS on Sunday, January 23 at 2pm EST.
>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Is this a typo, or is CBS really going to wait until everyone in
> the country has already heard who won before showing the match?

The way I understand it, CBS' contract with the NCAA to televise the
men's basketball tournament requires them to televise all other NCAA
finals. However, it doesn't require that they be shown live, or even in
the same calendar year... it's a good idea for exposure of "little
known sports" but it does mean that Serious Fans get screwed because
CBS usually does the finals in a one hour show. VB got more air time in
Barcelona. Too bad they can't sell the rights to ESPN, at least then
we'd see most of the match.

Eric Baumgartner                   *  ebaum@dartmouth.edu
Interactive Media Lab              *  - When in danger or in doubt,
Dartmouth Medical School           *      run in circles, scream and
shout.
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From: van@wucs1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo)
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:44:43 GMT

In article <SOPH.92Dec10111954@bass.bu.edu> soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang) writes:
>about active blocking, isn't there a ruling that you can not pass (block)
>over the plane of the net? moving hands to cover the block is standard, but
>don't think you can break the plane...anyone else???
>
>soph

Nope.  The only time you can contact the ball when the ball is completely
on the opponents' side of the net is when blocking.  You cannot do this
when attacking the ball, but when blocking you can break the plane of the
net.  The FAQ I think has a section on this.

Van
From: bchuang@css.itd.umich.edu (Ben Chuang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: CBS Coverage (was NCAA Regional Results)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 07:00:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

Call up CBS and let them have it. I used to spend my time in between
breaks during the Olympic coverage calling affiliates and letting them
know how uninterested I was in boxing when they would break up women's
matches...


-- 
Benjamin.Chuang@um.cc.umich.edu    (yes, we still use MTS) 
bchuang@css.itd.umich.edu          (yes, we've gotten to UNIX)
bchuang@ccs.itd.umich.edu          (yes, we even have NeXTmail)
bchuang@umich.edu                  (yes, IFS and x.500 exist)
From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: What's a good ball to buy?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:18:47 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grendle.think.com

In article <1815.2b3062cd@atlas.nafb.trw.com>, alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com writes:
|> 
|> Ali,
|>     If you want a soft ball you'll have to buy a leather one. The softest 
|> leather ball is the Tachikara SV-5W, I've got one & I love it. It is definitely
|> the best ball I've ever played with including the Mikasa World Class ('92 
|> Olympic ball).
|> There are 800 numbers for Spike Nashbar & Volleyball One you can call to get
|> catalogs, dial 800-555-1212 to get those numbers. But, If you have a SportMart
|> in your area check them out, I got a SV-5W for $32 at one in S. Calif.
|> Hope this helps,
|>                  Alex Lee
|> 
|> p.s. most mail order firms offer pretty good volume discounts, ask about them!

As a former devotee of the SV5W, I would like to offer another opinion.  Over
the course of the past year, I have been "forced" to play with the Brine
Elite at several tournaments.  My initial reaction was, "Why can't we just
play with a normal ball (SV5W)".  After a while, I began to look forward to
playing with the Brine.  Now, its my ball of choice.  It is between the SV5W
and Mikasa (brick) in softness to the touch, yet it feels nice and hard when
you hit it.  In addition the ball is extremely durable.  The SV5W is well
known for wearing out quickly, and when it does, its very slick.  The Brine's
I have been playing with feel better than the SV5W's that were bought at the
the same time (and they both get equal use).

I know its Volleyball blasphemy, but I recommend the Brine Elite.

Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge, MA

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From: pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu (White)
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:50:23 EST

In article <SOPH.92Dec10111954@bass.bu.edu> soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang) writes:
>about active blocking, isn't there a ruling that you can not pass (block)
>over the plane of the net? moving hands to cover the block is standard, but
>don't think you can break the plane...anyone else???
>
>soph

I do.  Unless you played a while ago, when that rule was in effect, I don't 
know where you would have gotten it from.  If you don't break the plane of the
net when you block, you probably get tooled alot, right down the front of your
body.  Get up, penetrate across the net, turn your hands out and push the ball
down when you feel contact with your hands.  Always penetrate over the net!
Brian
From: 12100z@d1.dartmouth.edu (Tom Buskey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Attack Block?
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:14:49 GMT
Organization: Kendo School of Indiscriminate Grappling
Newsreader: MS Windows WinVN

In article <1992Dec16.011846.3349@wam.umd.edu>, dika@wam.umd.edu (Ting Lin) says:
>
>Can You attck block?  Yes of course!  This goes under the rule (written?)
>that as long as the opposing team has used up all three contacts the ball
>is fair game!  At least that is how I was told at ref clinics.  You can
>re-direct the ball back or down at the opponents court (as long as contact is 
>not considered a throw or slam dunk!).
>

ttack block".  So when do you reach the point where you're not blocking, but spiking?

I blocked a ball into the net & bumped it up off the net.  Both hits were clean.  When I blocked the ball, 
I was not swinging, but I was running forward, so my arms (& body) were moving.  The ref ruled it as
a spike & disallowed my recovery.  So, who was right?  When is a block really a spike?
 
Tom Buskey   12100z@d1.dartmouth.edu
From: altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alexander King Tang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: What's a good ball to buy?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:23:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: uglymouse.css.itd.umich.edu

I've already seen one reply about getting a Tach SV5W.  I like these balls alot,but I also think that Mikasa World class balls are great balls too.  World Classballs are harder, but they bounce higher.  This is good if you're trying to
plaster the ceiling when it bounces off the floor.
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From: rhillier@random.ucs.mun.ca (Rex Hillier)
Subject: Can. Nat. Juniors 1975/76
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: w$
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:27:00 GMT


I am currently looking for the current addresses of any one who played
on either of these teams. They included: Dean Hitchcock,  Leon Nasson,
Norm Gallant,  Sylvain Duplessis,  Seymour Hadwin,  Janis Osolenz,
David Jones,  Randy Anderson, BOb Glackin,  John Markwart,
Walter Neufeld.
From: kko@terapin.com (Kenneth Ko..)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:38:14 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <SOPH.92Dec10111954@bass.bu.edu>, soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang)
writes:
>about active blocking, isn't there a ruling that you can not pass (block)
>over the plane of the net? moving hands to cover the block is standard, but
>don't think you can break the plane...anyone else???
>
>soph

Breaking the plane of the net, or penetration, is one of the keys to good
blocking.  I think someone said in VM that for every inch over the net you
penetrate, you take away a foot of open back court (IMHO, I think it's more!).
It *IS* illegal to penetrate over on a set and interfere with the set.

-Ken

"You know what's illegal?  -- A sick bird..."  (Boo!  Hiss!!!)  :)
From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Attack Block?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:52:22 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <1992Dec16.031449.28727@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> 12100z@d1.dartmouth.edu (Tom Buskey) writes:
In article <1992Dec16.011846.3349@wam.umd.edu>, dika@wam.umd.edu (Ting Lin) says:
>
>Can You attck block?  Yes of course!  This goes under the rule (written?)
>that as long as the opposing team has used up all three contacts the ball
>is fair game!  At least that is how I was told at ref clinics.  You can
>re-direct the ball back or down at the opponents court (as long as contact is 
>not considered a throw or slam dunk!).
>

ttack block".  So when do you reach the point where you're not blocking, but spiking?

I blocked a ball into the net & bumped it up off the net.  Both hits were clean.  When I blocked the ball, 
I was not swinging, but I was running forward, so my arms (& body) were moving.  The ref ruled it as
a spike & disallowed my recovery.  So, who was right?  When is a block really a spike?
 
Tom Buskey   12100z@d1.dartmouth.edu

I jump in.

A block is a block when the ball is contacted while some part of it is even
with the top of the net, or above, by the blocker(s), in an effort to keep
the ball from coming into your court from the opponents court. That's a
paraphrase of the rule book. Thus, an attack of an over pass would be
considered a block.  However, most people I've played with make a
distinction between swinging to attack an overpass, and simply blocking it.
I've given up trying to explain the not so fine point of the interpetation
the way I see it (any attack of an overpass is a block because I am
attempting to prevent the ball from coming into my court.

On a side note, if the ball is falling where none of your opponents can get
to it, to make a play on the ball, why bother hitting it, anyway?

Rick
--
Stolen signature:
GILLETTE'S PRINCIPLE:
  "If you want to make people angry, lie. If you want to make
   them absolutely livid with rage, tell the truth."
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From: rhillier@random.ucs.mun.ca (Rex Hillier)
Subject: Minor Volleyball
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: w$
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:11:07 GMT

I am currently organizing a club for nine year olds.  I am an experienced coach but not at this level.  Any suggestions as to organization, drills, and resources would be greatly appriated.

Rex
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: What's a good ball to buy?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:14:08 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

IMHO the only ball to buy is the Tachikara SV5W.  You can get it by mail for
about $37  (call 1-800-we-spike).  I realize buying by mail is somewhat
politically incorrect, but it is cheaper.  Ask for a catalog when you call
they have the best prices I have seen.  One word of advice if you are new
to the game, put your name/initials all over it in BIG letters, everyone I
know has had at least one ball stolen.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walt Maley    | 'The ones who love us best, are the ones we'll lay to rest.
GC/MS Chemist |  The ones who love us least, are the ones we'll die to please.
U of Iowa     |  If it's any consolation, I don't pretend to understand them.'
              |                            -Paul Westerberg
wmaley@alchemy|
uhl.uiowa.edu|    -Setters do it with their hands
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Subject: Mideast Regional FINAL Result
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:56:19 GMT

In a match lasting over 2.5 hours and in front a crowd of 4300+, Stanford
defeated Illinois 3-1 (something like 17-15, 15-7, 15-17, 15-10).

Stanford was ahead 14-9 in the first game when Illinois made its comeback
with the insertion of backup setter Kathleen Shannon and the serving of
middle blocker Kellie Hebeisen.  Illinois actually had a couple of game
points.

The Illini was winning 13-10 or so in the third game and had a difficult
time putting away Stanford.

No one was happy with the officiating; there were a lot of called mishandles
of the ball on the setters, particularly on Illinois.  The Stanford bench
pleaded to no avail to have a number of the "power dinks" called as carries.

Bev Oden, Kirsten Gleis, and Tina Rogers all had 22+ kills.  Joining them
on the All-Region team were Kristin Henriksen, Carrie Feldman (? Stanford
setter), and Cary Wendell (? Stanford freshman).

Gleis and Oden were both pretty unstoppable.  The difference was the
serving and ball-control.  Illinois had many more service errors.  I
would guess they had around 20 while Stanford committed less than 10.
Stanford was able to dig a lot of attacks, whereas Illinois was able to
get into that sort of zone for only short periods of time.  Merrill Mullis
also had some trouble setting, with many of her sets too low and
misconnecting a number of times.

It was a good seaon for Illinois.
--
Albert Liu
liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
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