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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: CAD programs
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:08:10 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


To: Steve Drees
Re: Shareware or Freeware CAD program

Write a letter to Vern Master at 807 5th Ave NE, Mandan, ND 58501.

Several months ago, he sent me an evaluation copy of his Basic.CAD program.
At that time, he wasn't sure whether anyone would be interested in it, and
didn't have any idea how to distribute it or how much of a shareware fee to
ask.

In a way, I didn't feel qualified to evaluate Basic.CAD, as I don't know a
thing about CAD. The print outs are quite nice.

So, write to him and ask him about Basic.CAD. Since he hasn't really
released it yet, although it's been in use for several years, mention my
name.

OTOH, you might want to contact Kitchen Sink Software. I know Eric Bush
reads c.s.a2, so maybe he'll see this message and tell you how fantastic
AccuDraw is. It's a commercial product; it may cost around $100 (I'm not
sure of the exact cost). It's very very impressive.

Joe Kohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: Re: System Bad: C000005 (anyone know?)
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:33:20 GMT

In article <behrenss.716086530@hphalle6> behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:
>Hi,
>
>0C is the sound test, and the 05 at the end means "Oscillator interrupt
>timeout". In short, your sound hardware is probably cooked ... though
>I do not know enough about the GS's internals to be sure ... it could
>only be a syndrome, not the cause.

Yeah, it's the oscillator test, but the IIgs usually fails this test if
you have an accellerator (I've seen this problem with the ZIP GS cards,
I'm not sure if it happens with TransWarps or not).

	Later,
		...Mike



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From: bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Rom 2?
Date: 15 Sep 92 07:57:41 GMT
Organization: TruckStop BBS  [pro-fla] *A ProLine Networked BBS*  Tampa, FL


Yeah Kim.... what I finally found out is it is definitely the driver for
the Zoom..... I used several of the cables I constructed with the Practical
Periphals 14.4, and the HST Dual Standard, and they worked!  Full
handshaking.... 

but the software just isn't recognizing the signal produced by the Zoom...

btw, the zoom works perfectly on my buddies Infernal Business Machine....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,misc.forsale.computers
From: Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Peter McAleer)
Subject: Apple IIgs For Sale
Reply-To: Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Peter McAleer)
Organization: The Magic BBS (Debug Computer Services)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 00:58:53 GMT
Keywords: 
 
 

I would like to sell my personal computer.  Here is a listing of what it
comes with:
                      Apple IIgs - cpu, keyboard, mouse
                      Apple RGB monitor
                      100 meg HD - 12 ms access time
                      Ramfast HD controller card w/ 256k cache
                      3 megs of RAM
                      Transwarp GS accelerator card
                      Soundblaster stereo card
                      Supramodem 2400
                      3.5" 800k drive / 5.25" Disk II w/ controller
                      AE Conserver
                      Panasonic KX-P1080i printer
                      Joystick
 
Please send reasonable offers to Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca
 
Or phone (403) 225 - 1195.
From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS/OS System 5.04 vs System 6.0
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:36:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I have a GS-Ram+ with 4 Megs on board coupled (in a Ramkeeper) with the
standard Apple 1 Meg card.  I have NEVER seen the error message being
discussed.  I do NOT (yet) have an accelerator, could that be a 
contributing factor?  Also, I have 2815k set up as a ROMdisk.  Could the
fact that I don't have all 5 megs set up as 'available' memory be a factor?

Speculating on why one does not have a particular problem is certainly a
new approach, eh? 
 
Eric S. Ford
From: daye@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (J. Q. Gumby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Roger Wagner's 4megs
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:34:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Sep14.173400.21064
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

I'm also very interested in this card.  If anyone can send me ordering info
(like a stock number, or just where I can get some kind of catalog), I'd be
very grateful.  One question about compatibility ... does it work with a 
AE ramkeeper?

Thanks.
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From: bk@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Bruce Kravets)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Should I buy this //c?
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:06:43 GMT
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA

I don't know your needs, but I don't see how you can go wrong with $100. 
The II e has more flexability, but you should be happy with the IIc.  It
will run appleworks classis, so if you mainly want it for word processing
or data bases or spreadsheets you will be in good shape.  The machines are
reliable (we have around 80 in our school) and they almost never break.  I
don't think there is much difference in performance.  The IIc will run
almost all of the II software, assuming you can find any of them (try Big
Red Computer Club).  Enjoy.

BK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP (Austin Phelps)
Subject: Re: Information about ][+
Reply-To: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:36:07 GMT

schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:

> ProDOS 8 versions above 1.0 or 1.0.1 require 64K of memory to operate.
> The early versions 1.0 and I believe 1.0.1 could run on a 48K machine
> (from what I've heard -- I've never had the set-up to confirm this!)

In Beneath Apple ProDOS there is a patch to force ProDos to load outside 
the bank switch ram by tricking it that the computer is a 48k system. 
This only work for proDOS v1.0.1 & .2.


Austin C. Phelps                bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP

"Let History Never Forget the Name Enterprise" Yesterday Enterprise
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS/OS System 5.0.4 vs System 6.0
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:36:29 GMT

I have a GS-RAM+ with 4Mb, and I get the "Finder needs at least xxxK to run"
message now and then.  I think it's just some bizarre quirk in the system
software. :)

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: SCSI and sider
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:59:33 GMT

tracadas@athena.mit.edu (Philip W Tracadas) writes:

>But I've been told that Sider SCSI is not compatible and it
>First, is this true?  If it is, what type of SCSI card should I get (stuff from

The Sider is not SCSI, it is SASI -- an interface developed by Shugart that
provided the basis for SCSI when it was standardized.

If your sider is a D2, D4, or D4T (I think) then you can use it with a RamFast,
and replace your Sider controller card as well. I have a RamFast, but I'll
leave the sales pitch to anyone else who wants to do it.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Programming
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:39:29 GMT

C, Pascal, Modula-2 (the latter being quite newly released), ASM.

Those are the languages you can _practically_ use on a GS, IMHO.

Soenke

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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: AOL gateway
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:29:54 PST
Organization: BBS

I've send several mail though xxx@aol.com.  The mails never bounced back so I
am assuming that it went though to the xxx person.

I have never gotten replies from anyone on AOL.  What is the problem?  I mean,
does it cost money for people on AOL to send mail to internet?

Also, is Dave Leffler ( author of the great ShowPic NDA ) still have an account
on AOL?  If so, is it DAVE.L32?

Thanx.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Star Trek program
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:31:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <gXwoqB5w164w@jwt.UUCP>, bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP writes...
>spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector) writes:
> 
>>   I'm the one who orginally posted it up to comp.binaries.apple2. It's called
>> "StarTrek: First Contact" and requires a 128k Apple //e with DHR graphics.
>>   I remember seeing it up on the Tybalt FTP site under the name "startrek.bsq
>> or something simular to that.... 
>> 
>>   I'll soon be posting up a version 1.0.1 of ST:FC, as well as AppleNET v1.5a
>> (also from my area) since there's been quite a few requests for it.
> 
>I absolutely loved the game!!!! I was quite impressed by the graphics.

  I agree! Although the 560 pixel resolution of the //e isn't often used in 
game software, it can produce very sharp, detailed graphics! (in mono though)
In fact some of the graphics were imported from the GS's ST:TNG HyperStudio
stack (640x200 into 560x192)

>Is there a bug in v1.0?

  A few minor bugs exist, but the largest bug is IIGS-ROM 01 compatibility.
ZBasic (what it was written under) isn't 100% compatible on a ROM 01. However,
the IIGS-ROM 03 doesn't have this problem as it's actually more-//e-compatible.
There may be an upcoming version 1.0.1 to work around that problem if possible.

>Austin C. Phelps                bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP
> 
>"Let History Never Forget the Name Enterprise" Yesterday Enterprise

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:22:23 GMT

In article <695@alchemy.UUCP> steven@alchemy.UUCP (Steven Lichter) writes:
>I believe I replied about a GS Telecom Program ANSITerm is for the GS.
>It is by Parkhurst Software.

Yes, and although rumors are coming in about a desktop version, currently
(to my knowledge) ANSIterm is still a P8 program which behaves much like
an IBM comm program.  I am also not impressed with the ANSI capability, since
it is often hard to read.

There was a small desktop ANSI program called ColorTerm, but it only works
with external modems.  It is supposed to use the 320-mode screen with a
special font to do ANSI.  It only does X-modem transfers, though.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:17:51 -0400 
From: "Seth D. Kadesh" <sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Doin' that HFS thing...

Interesting experience I had today (I'm way too busy to follow up on
it):

I created a document with Teach on my GS, and saved to an 800K mac
disk.  The mac disk had three folders on it, each with several files
inside.  I decided I didn't need these folders (or the files inside)
and threw them out (finder, on my GS).  I was curious if a) the files
would delete, and b) the disk would still be readable on a Mac.  When
I attempted to throw out all of the folders at one time, the computer
hung.  No problem if I did one folder at a time.

I am NOT reporting this as a bug.  I did NO experimentation with my
setup, and did not even try to replicate the problem.  I am merely
reporting it as an interesting occurence.

BTW, Mac teach documents are NOT the same as those created on the GS.
After saving my document (on my GS) as a text file, and then loading
it into AWGS, and saving it as an AWGS word processor file, I was able
to load it into MWII.  Of course, MWII doesn't save in AWGS format, so
I have to save in MW5.0 format, and then read it in with Teach (on my
GS), ad infinitum.....

There must be a better way....

  seth ---> sk2f@andrew.cmu.edu
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Hypercard on IIgs... does it exist?
Date: 6 Sep 92 08:40:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Sep 05 92 at 11:43:21 (EST)

>>
Look
for it at you local users group, as most dealers will not know anything
about the IIGS, except that it's been discontinued.  (Which by the way 
isn't true, they're just don't want to learn anything about a IIGS)
<<

Any statement like that should not be kept in parenthesis!

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ncp                   ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com
                      ncp@gnh-starport.cts.com
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From: mdj@nic.cerf.net (Mark de Jong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Where does ProDOS come from?
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:40:46 GMT
Organization: CERFnet


ProDOS 8 v1.9 is on the System 5.0.4 disk, I believe. And that system is
available at ftp.apple.com; at least last time I checked.

	-- Mark
From: camvkkas@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Todd Schlesinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: APPLE WORKS->MAC
Keywords: appleworks macintosh
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


What is the best software for the mac to access APPLEWORKS  database files?

Will the mac read 3.5 inch prodos formatted disks(like from a IIGS)?

				Thanks for information!

					Todd,
						CAMVKKAS@UBVMS
From: joe_luzzi@QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU ("Joe Luzzi")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Re- Accelerator performa
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:19:30 GMT
Organization: The Internet


        Reply to:   RE>Re: Accelerator performance


 (Harold Byron Bouma) writes

>>Well, up until the 14Mhz 65816 came out, all Zips above the speed of
>>8 Mhz were 8 Mhz chips pushed to go faster. 

So, does Zip now include the 14Mhz 65816 in all their new Zip boards?  If
they're the same price as the slower versions, I see no reason not to.


-----------------------
Joe M. Luzzi
CSU Fulleton
joe@fullerton.edu
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Project Abstract...
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:40:50 GMT

Yeah.  Run the program. :)

- Eric S.

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From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Should I buy this //c?
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:59:21 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Question on old Apple2+ addon card
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:37:28 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Videx VideoTerm and Inverse Video
Keywords: Videx Video Card
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <1992Sep8.150254.7108@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters) writes:
>Thanks for taking the time to read this...

Does it look like anyone here minds? We're all Apple // users abandoned by
Apple... (;_;)

>She has an 80 column card made by VIDEX, the VIDEOTERM board.  The date in
>the manual is 1980.
>When Appleworks (or any program for that matter) creates a reverse video
>filed (i.e. menu selections) all we see is a reversed set of spaces, and
>no letters at all.  

It sounds like to me that your mother in law does now have  the inverse
video chip. Take a look at videoTerm card you should notice that there is
one empty socket...

Given that Videx has long abandoned apple // market and that VideoTerm has
not been in production for years, I don't know where you can get the inverse
video chip. Most of the "//+" 80 column cards sold through mail order today
are VideoTerm clones, but I'm skeptical that those places would sell the
inverse video chip alone...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
id <m0mSwDg-0000t1C@crash.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Sep 92 14: 38 PDT
	id <ia48198@pro-nsdapple.cts.com>; Thu, 10 Sep 92 13: 23 PDT
From: glennl@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Glenn Levine)
Subject: Re: IIc to DOS transfer
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:08:36 PDT

try a program by CrossSpoken software called Crossworks. it works by
connecting a cable between both computers serial (modem) port and allows
you to transfer file.  Or if you have a modem on both computer you could do
that.  But other that I would have no idea
From: ltchean@rambutan.iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Modula-2 for the Apple IIGS
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:35:11 GMT
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Originator: ltchean@rambutan


Anybody know about the two new Modula-2 language implementations for the
Apple IIGS?

- Orca/Modula-2 (from Australia)
- Modula-2 GS (from Germany)

I read them from GS+, and they really interest me. I would always want to
use languages like C++, Modula-2 and Ada for very long time, and what GS used
to offer are just Pascal and C (and of course, BASIC, LOGO and Forth too,
but you know what I mean).

Anybody has more information about the new languages on GS, please let me know.
Thanks.


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From: patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Stickers from Apple
Date: 14 Sep 1992 03:24:09 GMT
Organization: Gizmonic Institute & L/A Blues BBS (207)777-3465 (14.4)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
Summary: HOW?
Keywords: STICKERS from APPLE

How can I get Apple stickers?  I have no more and I want some!

I know you can get some when you buy an Apple ][ or Mac...but I'm hoping
to get them a little cheaper.  :)

Any Apple Employees know how?  I'd like one for my car and one for my dorm
window.  (I used my last sticker on the dorm window LAST year...IT'S STILL
THERE!!!)  :)

Please E-mail patrickd@wpi.wpi.edu with replies...
 
Also...is there an FTP site for Apple ads that are now QuickTime movies?
(This may be a more appropriate question on a mac group...)
I hope to have a collection of lots of Q.T. Apple ads.

Thanks people.



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From: colbyp@pro-freedom.cts.com (Colby Pederson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Programming
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:39:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep7.083939.1882
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


  I was just wondering what programming languages are available for the
Apple IIgs?   Thanks.

                                                      Colby Pederson
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lang@cs.tulane.edu (Raymond Lang)
Subject: Re: Flopticals...any successful usage out there?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-28259]: okeanos
Keywords: Floptical, Insite, SCSI
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:11:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.045719.10600@cco.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>Ok, I found out from Tulin what the deal is.
>
>1. Tulin is final-testing an Apple SCSI driver for the Floptical. This would
>be GS/OS only, and while I remember hearing that the current SCSI.Manger will
>work with the Rev.C card, I am not certain.

So I wouldn't be able to use this from a PC-Transporter, since that runs
under P8; or would I just have to make sure that I launched AEPC from GS/OS?

Ray Lang
lang@cs.tulane.edu
From: gregd@pro-desert.cts.com (Greg DaCosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: phonem dictionary
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:09:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-desert], Greg DaCosta (Sysop)

In <i915197@pro-fla.cts.com> bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon) writes:


>Well, there was an antique once, called SmoothTalker.... emulated a male or
>female voice, spoke via selected text, word, or sentence...
>
>but I am not sure if it is still available anywhere, and I don't believe it
>will work under system 6....

I think this was taken over by the Byteworks and is now sold as their
"Talking Tools" package.  They are fairly easy to use and are compatible with
System 6.0 as far as I can tell (it works for me).

 Greg


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From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: I might be gone for a while.
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:39:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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