HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: Is there any hope left?
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:13:33 GMT

rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:

>Are you using the Adaptec as a floppy controller or do you have a separate
>one?

I run it as a floppy controller.

>This could be a symptom of using the wrong translation mode for the
>Adaptec controller.

I used 64.  It seemed to copy files fine (at least most of them).

>The kernel was quite unhappy.  Do you have any good memory diagnostics?
>Have you verified that your memory is the correct speed?

The memory is 60 ns.

>Have you run MSDOS and/or Windows 3.x on this machine?

Yes, it was fine.  (DOS, that is).

>One problem may be memory chips that are bad or the wrong speed ( too slow ).

Slow they're not.  Maybe bad, I will check them.

>If the Adaptec controller is set up for synchronous operation, then you
>must reset it for asychronous.

I will check that also.

Thanks for all the great advice.

t.
From: ed@invid.mwc.com (Ed Bravo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: dos commands help wanted
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:34:19 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> In article <18285@mindlink.bc.ca>, Mark_Ward@mindlink.bc.ca (Mark Ward)
>  writes...
> >I need some help with the dos commands.  I have just installed Coherent 4and
> >everything is working just fine.  However when I use the doscp and other dos
> >commands I get the message " cannot open device c ".  I have my hard drive
> >partioned so that primary dos partition is active and I use bootstrap to boot
> >coherent.  I don't think I made any mistakes when installing.  I also checked
> >out the file msdos and it contained the line c=\dev\at0a, so I assumed
> >everything was fine, but I still can't use the dos commands.  Any help would
> >be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >                                Mark
> >--
> > E-mail address: Internet: Mark_Ward@mindlink.bc.ca Compuserve: 70323,3601
>
> I had a similar problem, and MWC tech. support told me that permissions had to
> be set to permit a regular user to access the DOS partition of the hard drive.
> Try running your commands as root and if they work, then you know it's a
> permissions problem.  root then has to use chown or something to declare that
> you have permission to open C:
>
> Good luck,
> ])ave
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. David Batchelor   Space Science Data Operations Office   Mail Code 632
> NASA Goddard Space Flight Center  Greenbelt  MD  20771  USA
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>

Please do not forget to modify the msdos config file in /etc/default to
let the system know where your C drive is.

mwc tech support
From: root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Bison and tin
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:56:58 GMT
Organization: RWSYS Exporter BBS system

udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
> Dan Simoes (dans@panix.com) wrote:
> : My make of tin 117 fails because of a yacc error.
> : In the makefile, YACC=bison, both in 117 and 116 versions.
> : What I don't understand is why 116 compiled without a hitch,
> : but now 117 is complaining.
> 
> Here tin 117 compiles with bison 118 without any problems. What
> is the error message?
> --
> Udo Munk, Oberstr. 21, 4040 Neuss 1, Germany
> udo@umunk.GUN.de   ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo   CIS: 100021,2515
> uucp: +49 2131 278869 V22/32/42bis 8N1 login: uucp pwd: public MYNAME=bbsuser
> request file /usr/spool/uucppublic/info for instructions
> 
I took a copy of bison 118 from raven yesterday. It compiled, but
dumped core on the grammers in the documentation. I found some pointers 
that needed to be cast and it seems to work ok now. Did anybody else have a 
hard time getting it to run properly?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Randy Wright)      | Exporter BBS     2400 bps
                or                          | (604) 581-0518     8N1
    Randy_Wright@Mindlink.bc.ca             | uucp         ogin: uguest
                                            | interactive login: guest
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU (Charles Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Cheap keyboard?
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:25:19 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> The problem is in the keyboard.  Coherent uses alternate keycode set 3 for
> the virtual consoles.  Cheap keyboards often neglect to include this set.
>
> I have a Northgate Omnikey/101 keyboard which works just fine.  It cost
> $95 with tax.  You get what you pay for.
>
> --
>
> Rick Kelly      rmk@rmkhome.UUCP        merk!rmkhome!rmk        rmk@frog.UUCP
>

        The problem is the keyboard driver which doesn't need to use scan
code set 3 at all.  MWC has released a fix (kbd40.tar on Raven and MWCBBS)
and it fixes things just fine.  I suppose keyboard makers (even expensive
ones) try to save money since all they really care about is making sure it
runs OK under DOS/Windows crud.

Csh
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1 /dev/lp*: name incompatible with MS-DOS
Organization: APK Public Access Unix * Cleveland, OH
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 21:05:46 GMT

Michael Willett (wizard@teal.csn.org) wrote:
: : LEXICON, /dev/lpt1 WAS FOR PORT 0X3BC! This really irritated and
: : confused me - the correct answer was to hook it up on /dev/lpt2.
: : 
: : On my Gateway2000 486DX/33, printer ports are assigned as follows:
: : LPT1: -> 0x378
: : LPT2: -> 0x3bc
: : LPT3: -> 0x278
: 
: 	The anser is in the FAQ.  (Who takes care of it anyway?)  :)

The answer isn't in the FAQ, as far as I can see, but it is now...
(I just went through and edited the entire file. It isn't there.)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: wizard@teal.csn.org (Michael Willett)
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1 /dev/lp*: name incompatible with MS-DOS
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:13:49 GMT

kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
: I tried to hook up Canon BJ-10v printer (Japanese version of
: BJ-10-something sold in USA) on my Coherent using DOS LPT1: device
: (port 0x378) But /dev/[r]lpt1 did not work - yes, as SHOWN IN THE
: LEXICON, /dev/lpt1 WAS FOR PORT 0X3BC! This really irritated and
: confused me - the correct answer was to hook it up on /dev/lpt2.
: 
: On my Gateway2000 486DX/33, printer ports are assigned as follows:
: LPT1: -> 0x378
: LPT2: -> 0x3bc
: LPT3: -> 0x278

	The anser is in the FAQ.  (Who takes care of it anyway?)  :)
	Coherent lpt ports and MS-WHAT ports are different.  In the
	installation of 4.X it notes this, and says something like
	"We strongly recommend that you test the printer, since the
	printer device may be something different than lpt1" I don't
	know what is typical, but, I too have lpt2 as my printer
	in Coherent, and lpt1 is DOS.

	--Mike

: 
: Note that above values may be different on other systems. Caveat
: Utilitor.

	Dito  :)

	--Mike
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 24 Dec 1992 02:11:46 MST
From: <AZAXV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: New kid



Hi,

I just got access to Internet and found this newsgroup...great! I

have DOS running on 2 partitions and Coherent on a third, on a 120

MB disk, on a Compaq 386/20e (5 MB RAM). I have the 40 MB floppy

tape that most of you seem to dislike; I have trouble with 3-1/2"

tar diskettes made on a RS/6000 model 320H, and all my "reboot"

command (4.0.1a) does is tell me to hit RESET or cycle POWER.


   Hello to all - looks like I'm in good company.


./alex


azaxv@asuvm.inre.asu.edu

CIS 71024,3024
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: pierre@lectra.fr (Pierre Ficheux)
Subject: I'm a new user
Organization: Lectra Systemes, Cestas, France
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:32:40 GMT

	Hi Coherent world,

	I'm a new user of Coherent and i would like to know where i can get (or
post) softwares (what newsgroup, ftp site, mail server...).

	Perhaps it is in a FAQ but where is the FAQ ?

	Do you know if there is a french Coherent user group ?


	Thanks and happy new year !
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: alpha/beta/gamma version of MGR uploaded to raven
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 20:15:14 GMT

H.C. Pulley (hcp@csx.cciw.ca) wrote:
: Well, I wanted to get a copy out by Christmas, so here it is!  A present to 
: Coherent users from me, Vance Petree, Grant Edwards, Udo Munk and all the 
: people like Michael Haardt who worked on the Linux port and Stephen Uhler who
: worked on the original code at Bellcore.  Thanks to everyone who worked on MGR!
: 
: MGR has been uploaded to raven.alaska.edu.  The files are currently in 
: /pub/coherent/incoming/MGR/ but may be moved to /pub/coherent/sources32/MGR/ in
: the future.
[...]

For users in Europe without ftp access the current release of MGR is
available from my system via anon uucp.
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udo@umunk.GUN.de   ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo   CIS: 100021,2515
uucp: +49 2131 278869 V22/32/42bis 8N1 login: uucp pwd: public MYNAME=bbsuser
request file /usr/spool/uucppublic/info for instructions
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: tar with Coherent 4.0.1
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 22:01:02 GMT

Claude W. Van Horn (van@teal.csn.org) wrote:
: root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser) writes:
: : tn@darktow.GUN.de (Thomas Neugebauer) writes:
: : > Hello!
: : > 
: : > I've massive problems with tar extracting under Coh 4.0.1.
: : > I got cnews from raven and try to unpack it. 
: : > 
: : > tar xf cnews.tar
: : 
: : Try ustar.. it works much better:
: : ustar -xvf cnews.tar

ustar is a link to tar under COHERENT 4.0, so calling tar is ok.
Remember to get tar.Z files in BINARY mode via ftp from raven,
or you can't untar them.

: tar works fine on my coherent 4.0.1, I have used it for many programs
:   tar xvf progname.tar and the thing unpacks itself into its standard
: directories.  
: 
: My question is, how do you know where to have the program when you unpack it?
: 
: I tried vn, cnews, nn and tin trying to find an easily installable
: newsreader and directories and permissions floated all over the place -
: and nothing worked.  I know it is largely my inexperience with unix, 
: but is there an easy way to know -- a standard (so to speak) or do
: real Unix programmers have the inside track and I am hoplessly lost ;->

Well, there are some easy rules:
Create the directorys /usr/local/src
                      /usr/local/bin
                      /usr/local/lib
                      /usr/local/etc
as user bin. Copy the tar archive containing the program you wish to install
to /usr/local/src and untar it there. Do so as user bin, do not use the root
user. Then first read all the README files and take a look at Makefile and
files like config.h. They very often contains definitions for directorys
where to install the software. Make the neccessary changes, most packages
comes with usual defaults and there is no need to change something.
Type make as user bin, if it's ready type su root make install. This
should copy all files to the appropriate directorys and set up owners and
permissions. Don't forget to include /usr/local/bin in your path, this
should be done in /etc/profile, so that it must be done only once.
Some words about easily installable news software: do not start with
cnews and nn! For your first news installation start with wnews and
tin, they are much easier to install and administrate.
You are not hoplessly lost, you only have to learn some things and you
should really read the README files carefully ;-)
Good luck!
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udo@umunk.GUN.de   ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo   CIS: 100021,2515
uucp: +49 2131 278869 V22/32/42bis 8N1 login: uucp pwd: public MYNAME=bbsuser
request file /usr/spool/uucppublic/info for instructions
From: jdhuse@sedona.intel.com (Jon Dhuse~)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: chip temperature
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:42:47 GMT
Followup-To: Colorado Memory Systems...
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: jdhuse@sedona



clau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Christopher Lau) writes:

... but I just noticed on my Jumbo 250 that the 24 (or is it 28) pin
chip on the top of the drive (right behind the LED) is incredibly hot (50-60
degrees C).  Can other Colorado users out there tell me if this is normal
(check yours- just push open the door and look up, there's a 24-28 pin chip

A typical commercial grade spec for integrated circuits is 0 - 70 degrees C, so
50 - 60 is not outrageous.  I suspect that the device in question is built using
NMOS, rather than CMOS, technology, for which those type of operating 
temperatures are very common.  A typical reliability expectation for commercial
grade devices is 5 to 10 years of continuous operation at the rated specs, so
I wouldn't have too much worry about chips in the tape drive.

Cheers,  Jon.
From: dfilip@colornet.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: UUCP problems w/Sun (solution for likely cause)
Keywords: uucp sun
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:59:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Summary: Getting Sun to talk to Coherent
Organization: ColorNet Information Systems


In attempting to get a Sun to UUCP to my Coherent system, I wrote :

># The problem is that (running uucico manually with -x9) the modem dials
># properly and my chat script seems to work properly (up to and including
># sending the password), however after that the last thing that uucico
># prints is 'imsg>' and then it just sits there until the system I am calling
># times out, hangs up the line, and I see a few garbage characters and a
># DISCONNECTED message from the modem.

Ray Lampman writes :

>I needed to transmit the password using a non-default parity set-
>ting.  I  learned  my  uucico  process  understands  a variety of
>pseudo-strings which can be included in  the  chat  scripts.  The
>special  strings  cause uucico to change the configuration of the
>transmitting serial device. My chat script now uses the  "P_ZERO"
>string. I ended up with a chat script which looks like this:
>
>   host time device speed phone "" \d in: foo word: P_ZERO "" bar

Thanks Ray ! That did the trick ! Thanks also to Leon Howorth, who also
sent me the same answer.

Regards,

Dave.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: Slow IDE perf. fixed!
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:46:39 GMT

In article <476354@lith.UUCP> kestas@lith.UUCP (Kestutis Sliupas) writes:
>Hi:
>	I would like to report that mkfs on my IDE drive increased
>the performance 4-500%.
>	
>	A couple of months ago, I measured my IDE performance as
>@27Kbytes/sec. for read/write. (Seagate ST-1144A, 8M Memory, 386-25)
>This was not acceptable. I posted to the net and support@mwc.com,
>and received many suggestions.
>
>	The solution was to re-mkfs my file system while modifying
>the 'n' (virtual cylinder size) and 'm' (free list interleave) 
>parameters. After much experimentation and angst, I found that 
>using n=210 and m=6 increased the drive speed to 149 (read) /
>131 (write) Kbytes/sec. The most important parameter was 'm'.
>These parameters may not be optimal for every IDE drive; they 
>worked for me. This needs to be determined for each drive.
>
>	I used a borrowed IDE drive as a backup unit, and a floppy
>based O/S for the root partition mkfs. HAVE A BACKUP! Hard drive 
>performance was measured using iozone v1.14b by Bill Norcott 
>(norcott_bill@tandem.com) with a 4Mb. filesize. I mailed it to 
>mwc; they may have it available for D/L.
>
>	I want to thank the following people, in no particular order,
>for their help and advice:
>	norm@mwc.com            (Norman Bartek)
>	bob@dalek.mwc.com       (Bob Hemedinger)
>	abner@mwc.com           (Abner John Snell III)
>	doug@htrails.mwc.com    (Douglas Peterson)
>	and anyone else who I missed.

Thanks for following this stuff up Kestas!

I will be experimenting on my Seagate ST1102A and Maxtor 7120A drives over the
holidays.

I suggest that we set up a database of good m and n values for various drives.
We should put this into the FAQ (which, BTW, I haven't seen for a long 
time...).

Harry
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: Colorado Systems - Conversation
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:15:01 GMT


A while ago someone mentioned inexpensive (less then $200 more than
floppy tapes) SCSI tape drives.  I asked at that time for references,
since I couldn't find any for those prices.  I just ordered a new
system with SCSI controller and would be happy to give it a try.
Any recommendations for *inexpensive* SCSI tape drives?  Preferably
something that will work with Coherent or is easily adaptable.

Oh, BTW, MWC, congratulations on excellent review of Coherent in Sys Admin!

t.

Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Subject: Re: Cheap keyboard? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK
Reply-To: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 15:15:46 +0000

In article <9212241845.23@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP writes:

>In article <725222948snz@mallard.demon.co.uk> mike@mallard.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>>You're right - I've just tried the other keyboard with my new
>>machine and it makes no difference. I guess it must be BIOS,
>>although the other machine has an AMI BIOS too. My new machine's
>>BIOS is also AMI, but slightly more recent (and no "advanced
>>chipset setup" options).
>
>The problem is in the keyboard.  Coherent uses alternate keycode set 3 for
>the virtual consoles.  Cheap keyboards often neglect to include this set.
>
>I have a Northgate Omnikey/101 keyboard which works just fine.  It cost
>$95 with tax.  You get what you pay for.

In this case, why does my father's 386sx25 run Coherent with
virtual consoles, but his keyboard on my machine doesn't? Surely
the problem cannot then be with the keyboard. Similarly, the new
keyboard on my machine works OK on my father's machine with vc's
but not on mine.

Regards,

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: wizard@teal.csn.org (Michael Willett)
Subject: Re: Where did our FAQ go?  Should we have a new FAQ admin?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:07:24 GMT

: I haven't seen the FAQ for a long time.  I have mailed it to a few people who
: requested it over the last few months but have not seen a copy in this group.
: 
: Mike (mike@array.com), are you still with us?  Mike is/was the FAQ maintainer.
: 
: We should get a new FAQ out soon.  There never really was a Coherent 386 FAQ 
: since Mike had his motherboard die before he could look at Coherent 4.0.  He 
: said he was getting new motherboard but we haven't heard from him since 
: September, I think.

I am still around, but it appears my postings are no longer making it out...
I will gladly hand over the FAQs to the appropriate person however, since
I have done the FAQ off & on for about two years now.  I have a set of
four FAQs put together, and I wil post (via this machine) the FAQs and
my thoughts about the direction of the FAQ from here.  Then I will go 
fix my system so that I can post again.  :)

Last I saw, "Steve" will be the new care taker of the FAQ, and I welcome
the change.  I have been wanting to put more effort into porting code
to Coherent, and have been constantly torn between the FAQ work, which
has obviously been lousy on my part these days, and porting code, which I 
have been having a good time with.  (My latest work is on pine/pico, who 
knows how it will turn out). But between working in a startup company,
and working in my own business, I have had little time to "clean" the
FAQs to the level I would like to see them in, or work on the porting of
code.  It will be nice to have someone more focused on the FAQ that will
do a good job!

So in short, since I just posted the FAQ again from my other system, and
will post it here, you will either see 4 FAQs or 8, and I apologize in
advance to my european friends that pay extra for phone time.

Best Regards, and Have a Happy Holiday Season!

--Mike

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