From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
Subject: Re: Dave's chart, but where's Dave? Oh, over there, a-bashing.
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.110629.29745@tfs.com>, ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes...
>stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin) writes:
>>ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes:

>Yes - I've scanned things to date, no mention by Dave that we've done anything
>at all. He last responded to me when I wrote to him privately. Probably some
>cue that *he* is cared about. It might hurt his feelings for us to dicsuss
>him third person - but that's primarily because he's not putting himself here
>in person to say "boo", "foo" or *anything*, regarding his readings. I see a
>man drowning . . . the nature of his writing has changed.

Wrong.  I'm just frustrated at being constantly and frequently deliberately
misunderstood.  Since (contrary to your divinations) I do not covet abuse and
negativity, I have tried to avoid adding additional fuel to the existing
flames.  The discussion has moved away from those astrological issues I am
interested in, so I am waiting until someone else brings them up again.

Your theory that I am here to attract negative attention is intriguing.  Let
me suggest an experiment from which everyone will benefit: why not stop
taking offense to everything I say, and stop baiting me?  If your theory is
correct, I will go away (don't get your hopes up).  If your theory is incorrect,
alt.astrology will still be a less ugly place.

In addition, one of my fears about posting the chart here has materialized -
in your minds now, everything I do is inseparable from the chart.  You call
me a reductionist, but this time it is I who have been reduced - to silly
little symbols.  That isn't what bothers me, but participating in a discussion
of myself on those terms is implicitly accepting the validity of the being
depersonalized into a horoscope.  I don't care to do that.  You (Eric) seem
particularly guilty of this.  To the extent I do something that fits in with
your astrological perception of how I should act, it is confirmation.  To the
extent I do something that doesn't fit in, I am sublimating some key aspect
of my existence which I am unable to come to terms with (according to you).

>Dave, we did your charts as a demo *for you*. The least socially polite thing
>to do is acknowledge the effort with "thanks". It's an awkward position -
>if we were wrong, as Xavier had pegged you wrong, then I'd guess you'd have
>said so by now. But your reply is conspicuous by its absence - as you keep
>on posting offense & defense around us.

Sorry bub, but you're rewriting history here.  *I* never asked anyone to do my
chart.  I posted it in response to *your* (collective) requests, not with a
request of my own.

For your information, I have responded privately to various people who have
done the interpretation.  I have not responded to yours for two reasons:
first, to the extent I could understand it, it seemed like you were baiting
me for a flame-fest, just like your last several messages have.  Second, most
of it was so abstract as to be incomprehensible in the first place.  Having had
that impression on reading it once I did not save it and I no longer have a
copy.  If you want to e-mail it to me, I will see if there is anything worth
replying to.


Dave

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