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From: bhmughal@athena.mit.edu (Bilal H Mughal)
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance :   Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:21:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.162407.20077@wam.umd.edu>, endevour@next00epsl.wam.umd.edu (Afghan) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct1.144852.9703@athena.mit.edu> bhmughal@athena.mit.edu  
|> (Bilal H Mughal) writes:
|> > Pakistan TV reported on September 24 that the Afghan government
|> > has provided six helicopters to Pakistan towards relief efforts 
|> > after the devastating floods.  There was also a video clip.  To
|> > see such fraternal assistance for a fellow Muslim country during
|> > its hour of need from a country in desperate straits itself is
|> > indeed very heartening.
|> > 
|> > Bilal
|> 
|> 
|> Indeed sir, especially when the country who is in deperate straits 
|> itself is practically controlled by the fellow Muslim country who, 
|> on one hand seems to be resourceful enough to develope an Atomic bomb  
|> but, seemingly, can not take care of its flood victims. Indeed,sir, it 
|> is very, very touching and suspicious, don't you think.  
|> 
|> Are you not touched by the five hundred muslim who are murdered in Herat
|> by the proxi war introduced by the "FELLOW MUSLIM COUNTRY". How about 
|> the destruction of historic city of Kabul by the agents of the "FELLOW
|> MUSLIM COUNTRY" ? how does that touch you ? 

[eg of Sudan help for Iraq deleted]

|> 
|> I do not see the logic behind sending of six helicopters to Pakistan(which
|> is doing pretty good by itself) from Afghanistan. It won't do if someone
|> throws me the Islamic brotherhood stuff because it is absolutely absurd 
|> to ignore dying Muslims in one country in order to help well to do ones in
|> another.
|> 
|> Those helicopters could have been used to give assistance to Afghanistan's
|> own flood victims in the north. But I guess in the arena of Politicized 
|> Islam "some Muslims are better than others".  

With as much certainty and regularity as a rooster every morning, one just has
to be subjected to the daily dose of exaggerated cynical crowing from this
nameless spokeperson for Afghanistan, from Maryland.  And as if the
senseless carnage in Kabul and Herat wasn't enough to sicken every sincere
human being, this man has the shameless audacity to daily resort to hollow 
didactic posturing by using the image of bloodied, still-warm corpses of Afghan
civilians to try to lay guilt trips on other posters.  And if I may be permitted
one small speculation, an area in which this man excells, may I
predict that despite all their brusque bluster, domesticated Zahirites of his 
variety, when faced with another rooster, let alone a Russian, would likely be 
scraping flatulence off their pant insides instead of living up to the 
bravado that they habitually boast of.  Oh, but unlike other
roosters, this particular one is gutless enough to leave his tall claims
and cynical opinions unsigned.

regards,
Bilal
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:49:36 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance : Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
 <1992Oct9.162407.20077@wam.umd.edu> <1992Oct11.212137.21038@athena.mit.edu>




>With as much certainty and regularity as a rooster every morning, one just has
>to be subjected to the daily dose of exaggerated cynical crowing from this
>nameless spokeperson for Afghanistan, from Maryland.  And as if the

Ahhhhh!!!!!, not knowing his name anoys the hell out of you doesn't it???
Well too bad,  he is not exaggerating any thing.  He has seen all sides
of Afghanistan as I have.  Both him and I have lived in Afghanistan and
Pakistan and United States.  We have seen the cowardness of people
and we have seen the mercy and good faith of people.  One thing for
sure, he has not exagerated anything.  We have seen what quest for
power can do to people.  We have seen the seven magnificent(SP) assholes
who turned Afghanistan to a blood bath and still they are not
satisfied yet.  You tell me Mr. Einstine(Dan Quale) 600 rockets per
90 minutes in a city of 5,000,000 people and you don't think too many
people died.  Man!!!! where the hell did you come from???

>senseless carnage in Kabul and Herat wasn't enough to sicken every sincere
>human being, this man has the shameless audacity to daily resort to hollow

yes, but we are still trying to find those sincere human beings among our
neighbours!


>scraping flatulence off their pant insides instead of living up to the

Bilal, welcome to reality 101.  The only reason why Pakistan did
help Afghan rebels was to protect it's ass from being invaded by
USSR.  If Afghanistan had given up to the Russians 100%, the
Russians would have marched to Islamabad like it was just a military
drill.  If you guys are so courageous and just bunch of soaring eagles
then why didn't you guys retaliate when the Afghan and Russian jets
bombed the hell out of you guys in Peshawar and Parachinar area??
It's because Pakistan knew that any retaliation would cause a massive
war between Afghans and Pakistan and with Afghanistan having the backing
of USSR, they would have whipped Pakistan clean.  So don't tell us
this great Islamic brotherhood that ISI supplied us.

>and cynical opinions unsigned.
Well!! this Rooster from Afghanistan is going to sign his name and
lets see how many hens will lay eggs.

>regards,
>Bilal

SAYED HUSSAINI
100% AFGHAN AND PROUD OF IT.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:24:50 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Afghan Concert (Iqbal)

Iqbal in Concert

DATE:      Oct 31, 1992
Time:      07:30 PM

at
The George Washington University
Marvin Center Market Square
800 21st ST. N.W.
Washington D.C. 20052
(intersection of 21st & H Street)

Tickets are $10 and the money will be used for the Afghan relief

you can purchase your tickets from various Afghan stores in the area.
you can also call Kabul Market for more info  (703)823-5023

ps.  This concert is done with the assistance of the Afghan Student
     association at GWU.
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance : Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:39:03 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <92290.100707SAYED@auvm.american.edu> <SAYED@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>

>Cheers!!
>Haji King Shaikh Meer Dr. Sayed Abdul Wasi Al-Hussaini
>...I am only in charge of the Camels!!..
>
>
al-haj navab changez shah zafar-ullah tasleem minhas khan-zadah
bus zafar hee to theek hai!
From: endevour@next00epsl.wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance :   Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:24:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.144852.9703@athena.mit.edu> bhmughal@athena.mit.edu  
(Bilal H Mughal) writes:
> Pakistan TV reported on September 24 that the Afghan government
> has provided six helicopters to Pakistan towards relief efforts 
> after the devastating floods.  There was also a video clip.  To
> see such fraternal assistance for a fellow Muslim country during
> its hour of need from a country in desperate straits itself is
> indeed very heartening.
> 
> Bilal


Indeed sir, especially when the country who is in deperate straits 
itself is practically controlled by the fellow Muslim country who, 
on one hand seems to be resourceful enough to develope an Atomic bomb  
but, seemingly, can not take care of its flood victims. Indeed,sir, it 
is very, very touching and suspicious, don't you think.  

Are you not touched by the five hundred muslim who are murdered in Herat
by the proxi war introduced by the "FELLOW MUSLIM COUNTRY". How about 
the destruction of historic city of Kabul by the agents of the "FELLOW
MUSLIM COUNTRY" ? how does that touch you ? 

The other day I read in Washington post that Sudan was sending thousands
of tons of beef to Iraqies while the Sudanies themselves are starving 
to death. In fact it was written that the meat was air lifted by the 
Sudanes which by itself cost a fortune. Now this is obviously not 
Muslim charity but simple dirty politics that prompts Mr.Turabi of Sudan
to ignore the MUSLIM men, women and children in his county and send their
food to an oil rich and well to do county such as Iraq. ( yes, I know 
Iraq is not doing as well as it used to do but no Iraqi is starving  
either). This kink of in-human politics in the name of Islam in none but
an isult to Islam and the Muslim world.

I do not see the logic behind sending of six helicopters to Pakistan(which
is doing pretty good by itself) from Afghanistan. It won't do if someone
throws me the Islamic brotherhood stuff because it is absolutely absurd 
to ignore dying Muslims in one country in order to help well to do ones in
another.

Those helicopters could have been used to give assistance to Afghanistan's
own flood victims in the north. But I guess in the arena of Politicized 
Islam "some Muslims are better than others".  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: bhmughal@athena.mit.edu (Bilal H Mughal)
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:31:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.041522.20296@wam.umd.edu>, endevour@next00pg2.wam.umd.edu (Afghan) writes:

|> 
|> Not withstanding your "animal language", which you seems to be quite  
|> proficient at, I will continue to HAUNT you and your BRETHREN who have  
|> used and are using ****    M  Y  *****  country ( and not some SHEIKHDOM  
|> IN GULF ) as the laboritory for some futile idiological adventurism. 
|> 
|> More rebuttal in near future. Stay tuned. 
|>  

So, you admit to being a mere specter :-) Quite appropriate.  Most of
your grandiose verbiage can be safely relegated to a fantasy land of
spirits, ghosts and elfs.  Or then again, perhaps its all a ruse to
get posters interested in Uncle Najeeb's upcoming Halloween party :-).

Who are these mythical brethren of mine?  Realize, that if your implication is 
that I am  colluding with other posters, with whom you associate my rather 
scantily advertised views on this net, then you are wrong.  I have not 
corresponded with  anyone.  Nor am I an official representative of any 
government.  If I understand the Islamic precept of Brotherhood correctly and 
if you are a Muslim and I am a Muslim, then *we* are brothers.

When have I used your (employ as much emphasis here as your little gobliny 
heart likes :-)) country as a laboratory?  What do you know about my 
ideology (provided I have one :-))?  Pray tell.  If these are the typical
intangibles that you are used to throwing around, then ignore; it is probably
hopeless.

Why should one choose a sheikhdom in the Gulf as a lab for ideological
experimentation?  Dosn't that convey the same kind of contempt that you accuse
others of having towards Afghanistan?

Observe that all your prolific and emotional rantings on the net quickly 
decompose themselves into harmless soliloquys.  With all your energy, I am 
sure that you probably engage in activities beyond the net that I expect
yield rather more tangible results than your outpourings here.  It would
make for interesting reading and perhaps provide other netters ideas on
how they can help Afghanistan.  What is completely fruitless is beating
the dead horse of foreign influence and the moral bankruptcy of assorted
Afghan warlords, ad nauseum.  That collectively amounts to a meek "boo" by
a faint apparition in Hikmatyar's face!  Therefore, save your rebuttals; 
I know already what you will say.  Instead of your usual venomous requims,
try to say something more constructive.

regards,
Bilal  


Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: endevour@next00pg2.wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance :   Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:15:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.212137.21038@athena.mit.edu> bhmughal@athena.mit.edu  
(Bilal H Mughal) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.162407.20077@wam.umd.edu>,  
endevour@next00epsl.wam.umd.edu (Afghan) writes:
> |> In article <1992Oct1.144852.9703@athena.mit.edu>  
bhmughal@athena.mit.edu 

> lots of barking deleted. 
> 
> regards,
> Bilal

Not withstanding your "animal language", which you seems to be quite  
proficient at, I will continue to HAUNT you and your BRETHREN who have  
used and are using ****    M  Y  *****  country ( and not some SHEIKHDOM  
IN GULF ) as the laboritory for some futile idiological adventurism. 

More rebuttal in near future. Stay tuned.
From: hareb_s@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Looking for AHMADI MUSLIM netters!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.161029.1766@exu.ericsson.se>, exuasqa@exu.ericsson.se (Asem Qaddoura) writes:
> In article 26314@ucsu.Colorado.EDU, rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Nabeel Ahmad Rana) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Friends:
>>
>>This posting is addressed to AHMADI MUSLIM netters. If you are an Ahmadi and have access to this network, please respond to the bellow e-mail address:
>>
>>rana@rintintin.colorado.edu
>>
>>Include you full name, your profession, the name of your Jamaat if any, and any other details you might want to provide in order to introduce your self. I am an Ahmadi student at the Univerisity of Colorado, Boulder. 
>>
>>
>>
>>Sincerly,
>>
>>Nabeel Ahmad Rana
> 
> 	What is an AHMADI MUSLIM ???????????????????????
> 	
> 	



A NON-MUSLIM
actually a contradiction of terms.
AHMADI=follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani = Divertor from the way of
       Muhammad Sallalahu ALihi Wasallam --  hence a contradiction.
AHMADI=QADIANI=LAHORI=A religion not from Allah(SWT)
Mirza Ghulam = Musailamah Al Kaththab.
QADIANI = Murtadd's if they started as muslims. Kafirs if they were born in
       the Qadiani kufr.



I hope this explains the above.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: PAY NOTHING; HELP MUSLIMS WITH MONEY; PAY NOTHING.
Organization: LC
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 19:04:24 GMT

SOMEONE ASKED ME TO POST THIS FOR HIM.  

Your Signature = $6,000,000 per month for islamic education. You pay $0.


Alsalamo Alaikom,

A muslim group named "Muslim Education Foundation" or MEF has
a contract with the phone company MCI.  The contract says:

For every muslim that joins MCI via MEF, MCI will contribute 5% of
the total bill to the Muslim Education Foundation which funds
muslim schools around the USA.  If you refer someone, they'll give
you 20% discount.

I thought you'd be interested in carrying this out in your area.

I think, if someone is already an MCI, he can convert to AT&T,
then back to MCI via MEF.  

This way you can help our muslim children without having to pay
a penny out of your pocket.  Say your AT&T is $100/mo,
you send $100 check to AT&T.  But if it was to MCI (which is cheaper)
you'll send in $100 to MCI, and MCI gives 5% to muslim schools.

MEF calculated that if the average muslim in the US converts to MCI,
then the muslim schools will be receiving $6,000,000 per month.
Yes, six million a month ==> 72 milllion a year.   I think the 
our children deserve the 72 million/year instead of AT&T.


Here is a list of benifits:

-MCI quality long distance service.
-An additional 20% Discount on Frends & Family.
-$9 Certificate for long distance usage.
-No change in how you use your phone.
-MCI will pay to switch you back to your old carrier if wished after 30 days.
-The best of all, Allah's Blessing for every time you use your phone,
 inshallah.


For more info, please call:

	Tel (407) 333-9779
	    (407) 333-9954

You can call them, they'll send you the info.


Wassalamo Alaikom.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:57:59 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance
 <1992Oct13.041522.20296@wam.umd.edu> <1992Oct13.213129.956@athena.mit.edu>

In article <1992Oct13.213129.956@athena.mit.edu>, bhmughal@athena.mit.edu (Bilal
H Mughal) says:
>
>In article <1992Oct13.041522.20296@wam.umd.edu>,
>endevour@next00pg2.wam.umd.edu
>(Afghan) writes:
>
>|>
>|> Not withstanding your "animal language", which you seems to be quite
>|> proficient at, I will continue to HAUNT you and your BRETHREN who have
>|> used and are using ****    M  Y  *****  country ( and not some SHEIKHDOM
>|> IN GULF ) as the laboritory for some futile idiological adventurism.
>|>
>|> More rebuttal in near future. Stay tuned.
>|>
>
>get posters interested in Uncle Najeeb's upcoming Halloween party :-).

..and I see you already have your mask on!!!!!!!

>
>Who are these mythical brethren of mine?  Realize, that if your implication is

The same set of idiots that are bowing to hekmatyar and claiming him as
a great Muslim and at the same time ignoring the unIslamic war that
he has waged on the Afghan people.

>corresponded with  anyone.  Nor am I an official representative of any
>government..................

God, I hope so..
>
*** more trash deleted **
>
We are trying to think about the Afghan situation and trying to find an
Afghan solution to the problem, but we keep getting destructed by
opinions of jerks like Lefti Harami or Lutfi Hermi, I can't remember how
he spells his name, any way,  he calls every one else a traitor,
but he still has not answered what the hell he is doing here if he thinks
life in Pakistan was so great??

>regards,
>Bilal
>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Bismillah
From: comjohn@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. John T Jensen)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:03:51 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Can some helpful Muslim tell one ignorant Christian what the word Bismillah
means?  Is the -llah a reference to Allah?

Just curious.

jj

John Thayer Jensen                      64 9 373 7599 ext. 7543
Commerce Computer Services              64 9 373 7437 (FAX)
Auckland University                     jt.jensen@aukuni.ac.nz
Private Bag 92019
AUCKLAND
New Zealand
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:10:07 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Afghan news item #11

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (ANWAR IQBAL)
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:37:14 GMT



        ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- Afghan mujahideen leaders have extended a
deadline for the withdrawal of the former communist militia from Kabul,
as demanded by a dissident Muslim faction, Afghan sources said Saturday.
        The deadline, set under a cease-fire accord between government and
the dissident mujahideen leader Gulbadin Hekmatyar, was to have expired
Sunday and had already been extended twice.
        The Afghan Islamic Press, a comparatively neutral mujahideen news
agency, said mujahideen mediator Haji Shamali Khan extended the deadline
after meeting with Hekmatyar on Friday.
        President Burhanuddin Rabbani's interim government had requested a
24-hour extension, saying it needed more time to expel the militia from
the capital.
        The militia, which helped Rabbani and his defense minister Ahmad Shah
Masoud capture Kabul when President Najibullah's communist government
collapsed in April, has several thousand troops in the capital.
        Most mujahideen groups oppose the militia because it was founded by
the communists and the mujahideen hold it responsible for killing
hundreds of their men during the war.
        A mujahideen coalition force sent by the powerful Nangarhar Council
in eastern Afghanistan has promised to launch a combined attack on the
militia if the government failed to evict it from Kabul within the given
period.
        Meanwhile, Masoud -- famous for his daring attacks on the Soviet army
during the 14-year Afghan civil war -- has asked thousand of his men from
the north to come to Kabul ``to help the government expel the militia,''
Radio Kabul said.
        However, Afghan mujahideen leaders and western diplomats in Pakistan
believe the government did not have ``enough strength to oust the
battle-hardened militiamen,'' a Western diplomat said.
        Earlier reports from Kabul said the militia forces were digging
trenches inside the city to resist attempts to force them out of the
Afghan capital.
        Observers fear that attempts to force a withdrawal could lead to an
all-out war between the government and its militia allies.
        ``And it will be a bloody war -- bloodier than anything we have seen
so far,'' said a Western diplomat.
        He said a war between Rabbani's mujahideen could lead to a larger
ethnic conflict. The militia forces are mainly ethnic Uzbek from the
north, while the mujahideen parties demanding their withdrawal are
dominated by the majority Pashtoon ethnic group.
        A spokesman for Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami party said efforts to oust
the militia would not lead to an ethnic war, but could ``possibly lead
to a war between mujahideen and the militia.''
        The country was plunged into an internecine conflict six months ago,
almost immediately after the 14-year civil war ended.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.british
From: rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Nabeel Ahmad Rana)
Subject: Looking for AHMADI MUSLIM netters!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:03:00 GMT




Dear Friends:

This posting is addressed to AHMADI MUSLIM netters. If you are an Ahmadi and have access to this network, please respond to the bellow e-mail address:

rana@rintintin.colorado.edu

Include you full name, your profession, the name of your Jamaat if any, and any other details you might want to provide in order to introduce your self. I am an Ahmadi student at the Univerisity of Colorado, Boulder. 



Sincerly,

Nabeel Ahmad Rana
E-mail: rana@rintintin.colorado.edu

Electrical and Computer Engineering;
University of Colorado, Boulder,
Colorado.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:56:57 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Afghan Concert (Iqbal)

In article <92290.102450SAYED@auvm.american.edu>, <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
says:
>
>Iqbal in Concert
>
>DATE:      Oct 31, 1992
>Time:      07:30 PM
>
>at
>The George Washington University
>Marvin Center Market Square
>800 21st ST. N.W.
>Washington D.C. 20052
>(intersection of 21st & H Street)
>
>Tickets are $10 and the money will be used for the Afghan relief
>
>you can purchase your tickets from various Afghan stores in the area.
>you can also call Kabul Market for more info  (703)823-5023
I was told the number was incorrect...         --------------
it should be 703-823-5213.

thank you
Sayed.
>
>ps.  This concert is done with the assistance of the Afghan Student
>     association at GWU.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:12:31 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: test

this is  a test ..

plese ignore..

thanks
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:13:23 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: I am back!!!!!!!!


Salam-o-Alaikum to all my fellow Afghan neters..

I missed you guys, How is every one doing??  Where is  Walid jan and
Ahmad S. jan, and our wonderfull Afghan brothers in Australia???

I see that some of us are being attacked again, let me roll my sleaves
and get back to work....

talk to every one soon...

Sayed.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.college
Subject: Nationwide Demo for Bosnia,Fri Oct16
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:49:15 GMT