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From: joanne_leary@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU (Joanne Leary)
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Subject: Green libraries
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:40:59 GMT
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  OFFICE MEMO          Green libraries                        Date:8/20/92
I have a question for anyone who knows about recycled products:  here we use
paper (for our printers) which is already recycled to begin with.  Printer
paper makes up a large percentage of our paper waste, and the scrap goes into
the recycling bins.

My question: how often can recycled paper continue to be recycled?  I imagine
there is a continual mixing process, whereby recycled paper and new paper get
thrown into the same vat -- but as an increasing percentage of recycled paper
feeds into this process, it seems that the quality of the end product goes
down.  True or false?  I have noticed here a substantial difference between the
quality of print on recycled paper vs. new paper, but it is not worth buying
the new, first out of principle but also from an economic perspective.  The
recycled stuff is *CHEAP*.  But I'm wondering if there will come a day when the
quality will be so poor that users will be forced to buy new.  Are my fears
groundless?

By the way, there was an article in the New York Times sometime last week (and
an earlier article in National Geographic, I think) which told of a landfill
archeologist, his work over the years at one of the largest landfills in the
country, and the astounding facts he has literally unearthed.  Plastic,
styrofoam and disposable diapers do not constitute but a minute percentage of
the junk; the big daddy of the junkpile is paper.   Real-life biodegradables
(like food) do not in fact degrade because there is simply no oxygen to feed
the process.  He has excavated perfectly preserved guacamole from 1967,
mummified hotdogs which left the back of the refrigerator in the early sixties,
etc.  He has been able to date these products accurately since newspapers and
magazines are plentiful and lay cheek by jowl with the food.

So it does make sense to put a lot of energy into cutting down paper waste, but
I wondering how long the process can go on?

Joanne Leary
Cornell Engineering Library
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From:         mary ann wachowiak <LWLMAW@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library
              20 Aug 1992 09:19:28 -0500 from <SHONTZ%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1>

we do it both ways during the week we have staff come in 15 min
earlier and on weekends thay come in right at opening.  I think
the 15 min head start is very useful.
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From:         shelly <SHELLS@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library
              20 Aug 1992 09:19:28 -0500 from <SHONTZ%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1>

We have one staff member come in early- 15 minutes.  They are responsible for t
urning on a total of 5 copiers, 30 academic work stations (computers), 6 CD-Rom
 stations, and a couple of other computers.  They also count the money, take th
e gate count, change open and close signs, and security stuff(doors & alarms).
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From:         "Edna O. Luna" <DRA_EOL@PANAM.BITNET>
Subject:      Opening the Library

The Senior Clerk and myself arrive at 7 am. We have 30 minutes in which
we have to turn on lights, copiers, count cash drawer, prepare deposit,
make phone calls on public cards, book holds and searches, turn on and
log in terminals for circulation and in the reserve room.  We are also
responsible for emptying out the money from 8 copiers. All these things
must be done before opening at 7:30. The Reserve Clerk is our backup
when either one of us takes vacation leave.

Edna Luna, Library Assistant
Univ of Texas-Pan American
dra_eol@panam
512-381-3306
(dra site)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:57:28 -0500
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From:         SHONTZ%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Overdue fines

The Briscoe Library has a collection of about 230,000 volumes, with a circulatio
   n of around 120,000 per year.  We collect about $17,000 in fines.  The fine
money goes into the Library's generated funds.  Until 1990 we did not collect
fines, and refused to do so unless the money went directly to the Library.  We
collect the money at our cash register at the circulation desk.

David Shontz
UT Health Science Center Library

Where we like it warm.
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From:         Bonna <BONNA@WKYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Labels on CDs
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I'm not on CircPlus; Western Kentucky University Libraries' Circulation
Coordinator forwarded this message to me.

MLA-L, the mailing list of the Music Library Association (MLA-L@IUBVM),
held a lengthy discussion of CD labelling several months ago.  The concern
with ANY labelling, stickers, etching, etc. is that is compromises the
integrity of the CD casing.  One institution had found that after several
years, the labels were eating through the top layer of casing.

While CD's are not expected to last forever, it seems unwise to hasten their
demise.  I would suggest training circulation assistants to check the jewel
cases at checkout and return to verify that the correct disc is in the case
rather than adding any labelling that might ruin the disc.

Good luck!  For only a few more hours (before I move to another institution),



Bonna J. Boettcher                   BITNET:  BONNA@WKYUVM
Humanities Librarian                 PHONE:   (502) 745-6173
University Libraries                   (answering machine)
Western Kentucky University          FAX:     (502) 745-5943
Bowling Green  KY  42101
USA
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From:         Maresa Kirk <mkirk@JUPITER.WILLAMETTE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library
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One of our Supervisors and two Student Assistants come in 15 min. prior to
open.  There is plenty of time to turn on photocopiers, CD-ROMs, online
computers, etc.  It really doesn't matter if it is 15 min. or 30min. prior
to open, if someone is absent or late, librarians cover the desk until
someone can be called in.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:59:28 CDT
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From:         Jim Wellvang <WELLVANG@LIBRARY.UTA.EDU>
Subject:      Labels on CDs

I believe that there is some very good advice from William Saffady in
his _Stability, Care and Handling of Microforms, Magnetic Media and
Optical Disks_  (Library Technology Reports, January-February 1991).
He states "Barcodes and other adhesive labels should never be affixed
to the nonrecorded side of compact disks.  Such labels may contain
solvents which can damage a disk's protective coating and reflectice
metal layer.  For the same reason, markers should not be used to
label such disks." (p.86)

Certainly our CDs are not Guttenbergs but it seems to me that we have
at least an economic interest in seeing that they remain useable in
our collections for as long as they needed, or as long as they will
last -- even though that may not be a long time.


Jim Wellvang / Preservation Department / Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Libraries / P.O.Box 19497 / Arlington, TX  76019-0497
817/273-3000  / wellvang@library.uta.edu
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Subject: Re: Green libraries
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:08:00 GMT
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From:  The GREENPEACE GUIDE TO PAPER
        Greenpeace International

"The right use for recycled fibers:

"Fibers lose their length and therefore their strength in the recycling
process.  In general, chemically pulped fibers can be recycled 5-10 times.
It is therefore not necessarily desirable to produce high quality recycled
paper products, such as copying and posters, unless the waste paper
itself was of very high quality to begin with.  On the other hand, paper
products destined for short term use should only ever be made of recycled
fibers, preferably without deinking"

If anyone wants some informative literature on recycled paper, and
you have a XEROX machine available, ask your service rep for the
publication XEROX INFORMATION REGARDING RECYCLED PAPER.  It is very
informative and useful.  Xerox made a commitment to recycling long ago,
and continues to be one of the industry leaders in the use of recycled
paper products.

Rustbelt Bill
N93774@PITTVMS
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Subject: Opening the Library
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:19:28 GMT
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Currently we have two staff members show up 30 minutes before the library opens
to turn on copiers, terminals, make security checks, etc.  Our director is
asking us to consider not having staff show up early--staff would perform
opening routines as the patrons enter the building.  Has anyone tried something
like this?  What would be the pros and cons?  It sounds odd to me, but if
anyone has made it work I'd love to know.

David Shontz
UTHSCSA
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From:         Sarah Jones <SAAJONES@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library

we don't have anyone come in early "officially" to open the
library. (although, on weekdays the maintenance staff turns on the
building lights)  additionally, we don't officially have
anyone stay late to close up and do security checks.

instead, the circ. support staff are expected to just come
in "a bit" early and then leave "when we close".  I wish
that we *did* have an official policy recognizing that
it's necessary to get in early and stay late to get those
tasks done.
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From:         Helene Androski <ANDROSKI@WISCMACC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Overdue fines

Here at the University of Wisconsin-Madison we bill out about $350,000 in fines
and lost book fees and estimate a 75% rate of return. The Bursar's Office does
the actual collecting; the money goes to a university general fund and we get
some of it back on our budget line. We have a collection of about 4 million and
circulate about 500,000/year from the main library.


--------------------------------------------Helene Androski
                                            170 Memorial Library
                                            University of Wisconsin-Madison
                                            Madison, WI 53706
                                            (608) 263-5955
                                            androski@macc.wisc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:59:33 -0500
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From:         SHONTZ%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Reserve survey

BRISCOE LIBRARY, UT HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER-SAN ANTONIO

1. Size of collection: We have around 500 articles, 700 books, and 300 AV pieces
   on reserve out of a collection of 200,000+ items.

2. Separate collection? Yes.  3 hour loan period, except for certain AVs that go
   for 3 days.

3. Short term in stacks? No.  Some 3 day AVs.

4. Separate budget for reserves: No. Relocate material from stacks? Yes.

5. Personal copies and library books? Both.

6. Accept required texts? Yes.

7. Restrictions on type of material? No.  We have everything from syllabi to
anatomical models.

8. # of copies? Up to 5.

9. Usage statistics? Yes.  We use the Library Information System from George-
town, interfacing with a Reserve module created with VA File Manager, to produce
   usage statistics.

10. Statistics copy limit? No.

11. Librarians placing things on reserve? Yes, our AD for Collection Development
   does this.

12. Faculty can request items for purchase to be placed on reserve.

David Shontz
UTHSCSA
From: C685LIB@SEMOVM.BITNET (Susan Higgerson)
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Subject: Overdue fines
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:01:59 GMT
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Southeast MO State U has approx. 350,000 monographs with annual
circulation of 125,000 (including reserves).  All monies are
collected/handled by the University's business office and go into
general revenue.  The University budgeted $40,000 income from
library charges for FY 91/92.  Need more info?  Let me know.

Susan Higgerson,
Circulation & Reserve
c685lib@semovm.bitnet
314-651-2741
> Well, after receiving Pat Weaver-Meyers' reply that they collect $45,000
> a year for overdue fines, I thought I should ask the rest of you what
> you collect for overdue books (if you have fines).  It may be that I
> can then persuade our administration that we really do need to give
> this another look -- we are getting down to ordering date due slips
> that have no glue on them in order to save a few dollars!!
>
> So I would really appreciate your response to:
>
> 1.  How much revenue do you collect in overdue fines annually?
>
> 2.  What is the size of your collection and number of circulations
>     per year?
>
> 3.  How and where do you collect the money?
>
> 4.  Does it go into a library account or to a general fund?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lucia MacLean
> Carlson Health Library
>               (Sciences)
> University of California, Davis
> LJMACLEAN@octavo.ucdavis
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> Where it's cooled down to 102 f today, but the ice cream still melts before
> you can eat it.
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From:         319 Susan Marks 335-5913 University of Iowa Libraries
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Subject:      RE: Overdue fines

Thhe University of Iowa Libraries collect from $55,000 to $80,000 per
year in overdue fines.  Our collections number some 3 million volumes;
our circulation is approx. 500,000 per year.  The money is all collected
via the University Business Office (thankgoodness) on their "U-bills."
The money goes into the University General Fund but, of course, we get
some of it back (for student salaries & supplies).  We are working on
getting the Central Administration to let us keep the $.
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From:         Ed Liddle <eliddle@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Book Return Bins
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Does anyone know where to find good quality book bins?  We need a
strong and durable bin that has wheels for mobility. It also has to
be large enough to hold a large number of returned books.  If you
know the name and address of a company that makes the type of
book return bin I described then please send this information to
the list.

Thanks Ed Liddle
       San Francisco State University
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From:         "Kay Vyhnanek, Head, Circ and ILL,
              Washington State University" <VYHNANEK@WSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library
              20 Aug 1992 09:19:28 -0500 from <SHONTZ%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1>

I have been in this position since 1985 and we have always had staff arrive and
go through opening procedures at the same time the doors are opened to our
patrons.  We seem to have handled it well most times.  Of course, there are
busy weekend days when we have to provide basic service (like reserve check-
outs) at the front desk before some opening activities get completed.  But
all in all, it seems to work for us.
Kay Vyhnanek
Circ and ILL
Washington State University
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Labels on CDs

On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:36:40 EDT James A. Cobbs said:
>easier to cover the whole disk than just one surface. So live dangerously and
>stick those labels on the back of the CDs and smile, sez I. We are not talking
>Guttenberg Bibles here.

Living dangerously is fine....for some folks....but have you actually DONE
what you recommend?  If so, please say so.  I believe that labels will
affect the CDs, not so much in the archival sense, but in balance, proper
spin speed, and so forth.  I could also be wrong, but I think I'd want to
try it on some old ones I didn't care about before doing a whole collection.
I'd then try them in different CD players and/or CDROM readers to see if
they generally seemed to work without difficulty.

If someone has DONE this already, I'd be interested in the results.
If not, and someone actually DOES it, I hope they let the rest of us know
what happened.


dan

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* Associate University Librarian      Internet: alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu    *
* Boise State University                                                    *
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From:         shelly <SHELLS@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fines.

We use the Innopac system to collect and track our fines.  We keep a paper copy
 of all bills and adjustmets on file.  Once year (end of fiscal year) we purge
the financial system records.  However the patron files our kept forever.  We a
lso keep the paper copies of all outstanding charges.  We communicate with the
university.  Students will not be able to enroll next semester if charges are n
ot paid.  We don't have a threshold.  Please see my reponses in prior mailings.
Most of the charges we don't collect  on are patrons who are not students.  The
y are usually fee members who bought a membership, and have no intention of vis
iting our library again.
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From:         shelly <SHELLS@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Overdue fines

We have a standard $20.00 labor charge for overdue books.  We do send out two c
courtesy notices, but after 30 days the replacement cost plus the $20 labor
charge is due.  Upon returning the book, only the $20.00 is due.  Prior to the
bill (before the 30 days), we suspend their privileges at the library.  This wo
uld include checking out or renewals as well as the CD-rom stations.
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From:         ljmaclean@UCDAVIS.BITNET
Subject:      Overdue fines

Well, after receiving Pat Weaver-Meyers' reply that they collect $45,000
a year for overdue fines, I thought I should ask the rest of you what
you collect for overdue books (if you have fines).  It may be that I
can then persuade our administration that we really do need to give
this another look -- we are getting down to ordering date due slips
that have no glue on them in order to save a few dollars!!

So I would really appreciate your response to:

1.  How much revenue do you collect in overdue fines annually?

2.  What is the size of your collection and number of circulations
    per year?

3.  How and where do you collect the money?

4.  Does it go into a library account or to a general fund?

Thanks!

Lucia MacLean
Carlson Health Library
              (Sciences)
University of California, Davis
LJMACLEAN@octavo.ucdavis
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From:         REYESJ@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library

What if both of them arrive late or neither one shows up for work?

If your director is worried about the cost of paying two individuals to
open the library he/she may want to think about the cost in terms of
public relations.

Just a thought.

Joan Reyes
NYU Law Library
reyesj@acf1.nyu.edu
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From:         penelope myers <P-MYERS@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Opening the Library
              20 Aug 1992 09:19:28 -0500 from <SHONTZ%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1>

At Temple University's main campus library staff show up when the library opens
As long as you have punctual staff it works out great.  Very few patrons want
or need immediate attention from staff, so there is time to open up service
desks, turn on terminals, and so on

Penelope Myers, Head of Access Services
Temple University
P-Myers@Templevm