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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:34:00 EST
From:         mostly harmless <SWEDE@DRYCAS.BITNET>
Subject:      makin' a list, checkin' it twice...
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Robert M:
>The following is a very incomplete, but already too long, list of cases
>illustrating the tendency of the "left" to engage in baseless rhetoric.

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This could be fun.  Whoever can stack up more baseless rhetoric from the
wing of mainstream politics which they view as opposite from their own
wins a prize - like a McDonalds happy meal or a years supply of Turtle Wax.
Neat.  I'll start things off for the political right...

Oh, yeah, one more thing.  Rufus will be very surprised and alarmed, I think,
to learn that he is now on the left.  Face it, Rufus - we know where you
live...:)

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:34:29 GMT
From: "(JASON STEVEN EUCULANO)" <jse2@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>
Subject: RE: APOLOGY TO EVERYONE!!!!!
The RIGHT in the ex-Soviet Union corresponds to our LEFT, and vice versa.  I
read this info in Tom Clancy's Cardinal of the Kremlin.  This is one fact that
confuses many Americans as they are "opposite" us.
                                        Jayce
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:56:29 GMT
From: "(JASON STEVEN EUCULANO)" <jse2@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>
Subject: Flag Burning
With the recent notions that flag burning is in some way acceptable, I must
stake out my views on this one.  I know several Veterans, Vietnam, WWII and
Desert Storm.  If you want to burn our flag, our symbol of the greatness of
this country, do it ONE TIME in front of them or me.  Hope you can walk away
after.  To burn our flag is to present one of the grossest displays against
our country that is possible.  I know you will say that this is a free country
and some more liberal crap like that, but how do you think it has stayed free?
It has stayed free by honorable MEN and WOMEN giving their lives to preserve
this freedom.  Indeed, the Navy SEALS' motto is "My Life for Freedom."  Can
you imagine if a child of yours died in Vietnam and some "protestor" said you
deserved it, that he was a baby killer, and YOU should be ashamed.  Does this
sound familiar Mr. Clinton?  The honor and respect our country carries today
can be attributed to the people who have sacrificed their lives so we can have
this country.
    Now there is a Liberal push to outlaw firearms.  Do you think this is a
good thing?  I do not.  Look at how our country was formed.  Farmers and the
like could stand up to oppressors because they had the weapons to do so.  Look
at the oppression that ran rampant in the ex-Soviet Union, they could not own
guns because the government knew that would take away some power.  We MUST be
allowed to keep armed.  The crimes that are said would be avoided in actually
would not.  Do you think drug dealers care if they break gun-control
legislation?  People say that children should not be allowed to have handguns
in schools and the like.  Well, they can't NOW, not legally.  If you want to
do something, make anti-crime legislation stronger (Bush), and inforce the
laws that are in effect now, don't create more laws that will only hurt the
law-abideing citizen who is NOT the problem.
                                        Jayce
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Just think about how much I could've netted in the last few days from the
right.  (hey, a map's burning! must be a bonanza...)

Of course, the point of all this (aw, geez, there has'ta be a point, doesn't
there?) is that the left and right engage in veritable gales of unsubstantiated
blather (which is not the same, mind you, as unsubstantiable blather).  To
imply this practice is an intrinsic portion of one particular wing of politics
is rather disingenuous.

Gary W. Olson
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