From: info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #236
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:22:02 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 30 Sep 92       Volume 10 : Issue 236

Today's Topics:

      [!] Gaga for Giga
      [*] CTB TCP Tool available for ftp!
      .Z coding again (Q)
      AD 2.0 upgrade
      Another 13" monitor problem
      anyone have ``Remember? V2.3.2 Complete''? (Q)
      AppleColor 13" Serial Numbers of Recalled Monitors
      Apple marketing in Europe - a new twist?
      Apple Rip-Off on Powerbook Memory
      AutoDoubler 2.0 Question (A)
      Bongo Bob FAQ.
      CD-ROM: cross platform compatibility?
      dead mouse
      Dead mouse - just wondering (A)
      dead mouse - just wondering (C)
      Documentation in "PostCard" Format
      Ethernet Card Driver
      Genie Internet Mail Access: Does it Exist?
      Help: Want Mac programs from the net
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #235 (2 msgs)
      Looking for Chemintosh & Beaker
      lpr client/server for Mac
      Mac NuBus <-> RS-422 Card
      Mac security app
      MacTCP, Eudora, and Telnet
      methods to disable printer test page? (Q)
      Mystery file format
      Mystery file format (A)
      Mystery file format -- solved!
      Mystery file format [A] (2 msgs)
      Need help with Mac networks
      New Authorware listserv
      PB's and airports
      Powerbook 145's and 170's to remain
      Printing Fonts catalog
      problem with Help! 1.0.3
      Programmer's Key
      QuarkExpress 3.1 ideas
      Question on SuperDrive Upgrade....
      QWK Programs (A)
      Sharing HyperCard from a Netware 386 Server
      Simple Pascal compiler?
      SuitCase II substitute
      System 7.1 - check out the windows... (C)
      The Macintosh "Little People"
      Typing (and other stuff) while the clock chimes!
      Typing tutor with Dvorak keyboards???
      Wanted: Way to get Mac programs off net
      Your Instructions (C)

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:20:24 PDT
From: The Moderators <info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Subject: [!] Gaga for Giga

Hello everybody,

The response for the sumex bake sale has been very good so far. Jeff's kind
offer to manage credit card contributions through his account seems to have
really helped. I only started receiving checks yesterday, so I'm not sure how
much that will bring in yet. I plan to put the on-line file with names and
amounts this weekend so contributors can confirm that I've gotten their
donation.

The accounts so far:

Checks deposited:     155.00
Credit cards:        1244.00
Pledges:              120.00

Total:               1519.00

Only the checks have actually been deposited at this time, so the rest is a
bit theoretical. Still, it is all very encouraging. We are certainly within
striking range of a gigabyte drive. I hope it keeps up for a while longer so
that we can afford a truly gigantic drive.

Thanks to everyone who contributed so far and a particular thank-you to
Jeff! I'm sure this has been an administrative burden on him.

Bill

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:38:03 EST
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Subject: [*] CTB TCP Tool available for ftp!

Your friendly hacker has just completed his latest silly obsession.

I have completed the TGE TCP Tool. This is a CTB tool that provides
for connections over MacTCP. It can be used as a TELNET tool to login
to other hosts via TCP-TELNET. It also has a "Transparent" mode for
binary uses such as UUCP. You can specify the port number for the
connection, and use a button to perform hostname lookups.


tim endres - time@ice.com  -or- tbomb!time
ICE Engineering, Inc - 8840 Main St, Whitmore Lake, MI 48189
Phone (313) 449 8288 - FAX (313) 449-9208

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/tge-tcp-tool.hqx; 24K]

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Date: 30 Sep 92 14:30 +0100
From: Ulf Dittmer <dittmer@imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de>
Subject: .Z coding again (Q)

Hi netters !

Recently I came across two .Z-encoded files from a unix ftp-server.
After uudecoding them I tried MacCompress as was suggested recently
in the digest but it didn't work. Our local Guru said .Z could be
lzh or sometimes even tar so I tried MacLha 2 and Tar 3 but they
didn't recognize the format. So what else can I try or what did I
possibly wrong ?
Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Ulf Dittmer
dittmer@imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:02:56 EDT
From: simsh@felix.async.vt.edu (Hillel Sims)
Subject: AD 2.0 upgrade

Could someone please send me the 800 number for Fifth Generation and the
price of the AD 2.0 upgrade? I missed them when they came out here a few days
ago. Thanks.


   -Hillel Sims
    Rensselaer Polytechnicc Institute
    simsh@rpi.edu

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:41:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: David James Foremsky <df1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Another 13" monitor problem

I seem to be having a different problem with my 13" RGB monitor than the
one that is currently being discussed. After the monitor has been on for
a while (15-20 minutes) the image on the screen begins to shake. This
phenomenon happens at seemingly random times thereafter. Is this related
to the other problem? Has anyone else had this problem?

13" monitor, LC 4/80, Stylewriter, System 7.0.1, tuned to latest tune-up.

Thanks,
dave foremsky

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:37:07 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: anyone have ``Remember? V2.3.2 Complete''? (Q)

On Sun, 27 Sep 92 16:47:25 PDT you said:
>I downloaded  [./da/remember-23.hqx]  and  [./da/remember-232-updater.hqx]
>today, and the latter's ReadMe file says,
>
>% NOTE: This package contains only the files changed from V2.3 to V2.3.2.
>% It does NOT contain the documentation or a few other files of the complete
>% package.
>
>Well, I'm definitely new to Remember?, and am wondering if anyone out there
>could upload a copy of Remember? V2.3.2 Complete (or whatever the latest
>verison is).

ftp to mac.archive.umich.edu and
get /mac/system.extensions/da/remember2.32.cpt.hqx

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:57 MST
From: <FRIESEN%NAUVAX.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: AppleColor 13" Serial Numbers of Recalled Monitors

In an effort to end the confusion, the serial numbers of the ApplColor
13" monitors that have been recalled (details of the recalcan be found
elswhere in this newsgroup)

7000001-7101012, 5378111-5624450, and 9000001-9029500.

My local repair dude, said he would fix my monitor even though I haven't had
any problems yet.  I don't know what Apple's official policy on that is.

	Aric Friesen

P.S.
	Disclaimer-I take no responsibility for the accuracy of these
	numbers.

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Date: Wed, 30 SEP 92 10:23:09 GMT
From: EFE%V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Apple marketing in Europe - a new twist?

   Reading recent opinions that the Performa range now on sale
in the US is bland and not very keenly priced, I must add the
comment that at least they are up to date models!
   In the latest issue of MacUser UK (18 Sept.) we learn that
Apple UK are about to start selling three Macintosh models
through the Currys electrical superstore chain and selected
Dixons Business Centres here in Britain. The models are ...
wait for it! ... (1) the Classic 4/40 (bundled with Letter
Perfect and PC File Exchange), at just under 1000 pounds,
(2) the LC 4/40 (bundled with GreatWorks and KidPix), at just
under 1200 pounds, and (3) the PowerBook 100 4/40 (no bundling
or price information given). Prices include 17.5% tax; the
exchange rate is currently about $1.70 to the pound.
   This adds a new twist to the discussion on Apple marketing
outside the U.S., recently the subject of many postings that
pointed out the huge price disparities between Europe and the
U.S. However, I think that what is nasty here is NOT the high
prices, but the implication that Apple has found a new way to
profitably dump its old models. Will the customers of Dixons and
Currys (which is owned by Dixons) realize that all the models on
offer are already obsolete and no longer sold by Apple in the
U.S.? Will the sales staff tell them that for future upgrades
they might be better off with 68030-based machines? I somehow
doubt it - I am sure all the postings about bad service at
Sears could easily be duplicated with bells on for Dixons and
Currys. I think that this deal leaves a very bad taste.

Eric Eisenhandler
Physics Department, Queen Mary & Westfield College, University of London

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:39:53 +0000
From: A.DEmanuele@manchester-computing-centre.ac.uk
Subject: Apple Rip-Off on Powerbook Memory

Anyone from Apple out there.

I want to buy a new Powerbook (possibly the 160 or 180) with 8MB of memory.
Apparently I have to buy a 4MB Powerbook plus a 6MB Board ( 490). I will
only get  35 trade in for the brand new memory board in the machine (which
I do not want anyhow), so effectively I am buying two boards! This does not
sound right to me. Any comments.

(Is there an E-mail address at Apple where I can send this message)

Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:44:17 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0 Question (A)

Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com> writes:

  > AD 2.0 is supposed to
  > be available in a couple of weeks.  It offers support for
  > System 7.1; I don't know what else may have changed.

   I checked the Salient area on AOL, and found the following press release:

	MACWORLD EXPO, Boston, MA  - August 3, 1992 -  Salient Software, which
was recently acquired by Fifth Generation Systems, today announced
AutoDoubler(tm) 2.0.  This new version of the popular compression
program features improved speed, greater ease-of-use, and new internal
compression capabilities which allows compression of start-up
documents (INITs) and control panel devices (cdevs).  Also included
free with AutoDoubler 2.0 is the new "fast copy" CopyDoubler(tm) program.

	AutoDoubler 2.0 is now 25 percent faster and requires less RAM than
version 1.0.  It offers greater ease-of-use with many interface
enhancements including additional user-controlled preferences.  For
example, the new Savings dialog box demonstrates disk space saved
with bar graphs for greater clarity.

	The new AutoDoubler 2.0 lets users start and stop compression by
simply moving the mouse to a specified corner.  For example, moving
the mouse to the "Compress Now" corner of the screen initiates an
immediate compression run, and moving the mouse to the "Don't Compress"
corner will temporarily prevent AutoDoubler from compressing
automatically.  Users can define the "Compress Now/Don't Compress"
corners for any of the four screen corners.

	For System 7 users, AutoDoubler 2.0 includes new CopyDoubler.
CopyDoubler copies files three to ten times faster than the Finder.
Users have the option to copy files in either compressed or decompressed
format.  Since CopyDoubler is fully integrated with the Finder, it is
transparent to the user and does not require additional commands.
Users simply copy and delete files as usual.  CopyDoubler consumes only
10K of memory when not active.

	In addition, CopyDoubler empties the trash twice as fast as the
Finder.  And, when emptying the trash, users concerned with security
can prevent recovery of confidential files by instructing CopyDoubler
to overwrite files before deleting them.  Whereas the current Macintosh
Finder only verifies floppies, CopyDoubler offers the options to
verify all disks, verify floppies, verify floppies and removables,
or not verify.

	AutoDoubler 2.0 now yields to other programs periodically while
compressing a file.  For example, screen savers will animate their
screen display while AutoDoubler is compressing.

	Version 2.0 introduces a new technology -- internal compression.
This new technology saves additional disk space for users by allowing
start-up documents (INITs) and control panel devices (cdevs) to be
compressed.  Internally compressed files are completely self-contained.
AutoDoubler does not need to be active for the compressed files to
be accessed and used normally.  These files remain compressed unless
users manually decompress them.  Internal compression does not occur
automatically.  Users choose which applications, start-up documents
and control panel devices they wish to compress.  Internal compression,
which is only possible on start-up documents, control panel devices
and applications, works with System 6.0.4 or greater.

Additional options include:

  *     Exclusion from automatic compression of files larger than a specific
    size.

  *     Option to transfer in compressed or decompressed format when using
	   telecommunications and mail programs.

  *     Option to backup files in either compressed or decompressed format.



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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:43:01 EDT
From: Roby Sherman <rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
Subject: Bongo Bob FAQ.

Hi all...

    Bongo Bob must have made it to some sort of FreeWARE disk, because
my mailbox has been FILLED with questions regarding the next version.
This easy to use FAQ will try to answer many of the repeat questions
that I have received lately.


		       T H E   B O N G O   B O B   F A Q
			    Written by: Roby Sherman



Q: What is Bongo Bob? What does it do?

A: Bongo Bob is a system extension that presents an amusing "fortune"
when your Mac boots up.

---

Q: What version of Bongo Bob is currently available?

A: Bongo Bob's most current RELEASE version is 2.0.

---

Q: When will the next version of Bongo Bob be available? What new
features will it have?

A: The next version will be available around January. Bongo Bob 3.0,
will sport the following improvements over 2.0 :

* Easy to access/modify fortunes - Fortunes will reside in a text file
that can be modified with programs such as TeachText.

* Bongo Bob will appear in color and will have different facial
expressions.

* Bongo Bob will have MANY new fortunes. The exact number has not been
finalized.

* Bongo Bob (hopefully) will work on the Quadra machines.

---

Q: Will Bongo Bob still be freeware?

A: No, Bongo Bob will be Photo-Ware. People who decide to adopt Bongo
Bob and make him a part of their everyday lives will be required to
send a wacky / cool / weird / funny picture of themselves that I will
make into some sort of collage or something...

---

Q: Will Bongo Bob still work under System 6?

A: Yes. Although it will not center its' window correctly, Bongo Bob
will work under system 6.



Hope this was of SOME use... <grin>


			--Roby

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:21:47 +1000
From: Danny Thomas <vthrc@mailbox.uq.oz.au>
Subject: CD-ROM: cross platform compatibility?

in Digest #232, Francis Knight (knight@swfmc1.SINet.SLB.COM) writes:
>       Good News: my boss has suddenly got impatient for a CD-ROM drive.
>       Bad News: he wants it for a Macrosoft compatible 486.
>       Better News: he'll allow that it wouldn't be a bad idea if it could
>       do duty on my Mac LC from time to time, and can have a SCSI
>       interface to that end.
>
>   I lean toward the Apple drive, biased by reviews which always praise its
>quality. I'd like Photo-CD capability as an 'Easter Egg', which might make
>it worthwhile stalling until mid-October; I guess Apple will have something
>stand-alone as well as built-into the Performas.
>
>       Question: Are Apple CD-ROM drives readily driveable by DOS boxes,
>or do I have to settle for a third-party manufacturer's product?

we went through this a few months ago for the same reasons. I tried both
Future Domain and Trantor SCSI cards on an AT clone. I couldn't get the FD
card to work at all (NB DON'T use a normal DB25-SCSI cable, the DB25 pinout
is different from Macs. I'm not saying it will damage things, but it
certainly won't work). The Trantor cards were quite a bit more expensive
(A$170 & $220 vs FD $120). The low end Trantor card only worked
intermittently and with a *very* low transfer rate. I spoke to both the
Australian distributors and the US tech support and while helpful, both
could only suggest things I'd already tried. The mid-range model (Trantor
T128) has worked perfectly since plugging it in a few months ago. The
Future Domain "manual" was a few pages of mostly English, but lacking in
details. The Trantor manuals were much better and overall I was impressed
with the overall quality, but the FD software included more drivers, eg
CDROM & hard-disk under some UNIX flavours.

  T100       uses some TTL with software presumably doing everything
  T128/T128F use SCSI controller chip and are fast enough for a hard-disk*
	     the 'F' model includes a floppy controller as well

* I think it was rated at transfer rates of approx 500Kbytes/sec

PS Even if boss decides for a non-Apple drive, I believe Trantor can supply
Mac drivers that work with some (many?) CDROM drives. Their tech-support
also claimed Trantor wrote the SCSI software inside the Apple CD150 box.

SCSI controllers are also becoming more common (and should be *very* fast
operating on the new local-bus 486's). So you might want to consider one of
those with a good SCSI disk, depending what the PC is going to be used for.
The question is whether there is a CDROM driver for such a card. The
Microsoft MSCDEX (MS-CD-EXtension sits on top of that so the CD appears as
a normal drive, eg E:)

OPEN QUESTION: will PhotoCD need special software drivers?

cheers (X500 'address' follows),
@c=AU@o=University of Queensland@ou=Physiology and Pharmacology Department
@ou=Vision Touch and Hearing@cn=Danny
Thomas@rfc822Mailbox=vthrc@cc.uq.oz.au

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:07:43 EDT
From: God <simsh@rpi.edu>
Subject: dead mouse

WERTZCJ@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (Charles J. Wertz) writes:
>The mouse on our 1 1/2 year old SI quit today. It seems like the little
switch
>that the clicker hits was the problem. (I said seems.) My wife ran off to the
>nearest MAC dealer. (Drove actually.) Cost about $80.00 exchange for a new
>one.
>The new one actually has a much better feel. But I am wondering if that is
>about par for the coarse (grin) or if there is a simple trick I should have
>known to fix it. (The pointer would move but the clicker wouldn't click.)
Just
>wondering if anyone has any insight. Using the MAC without a mouse is really
>tough so that is like an emergency.

Actually, I had the same exact problem with my IIsi mouse when it was several
months old. This was two days before Christmas so I was lucky that my school
let me borrow one to use. I brought the broken one in and received a new one
(after they reopened) that also has a much better feel. It still works fine
to this day. You may have had one of the mice in the range of serial numbers
>From LT043xxxxxx-LT051xxxxxx, in which case Apple is supposed to replace it
for free until March, 1994, according to the article that appeared here a few
days ago. I'm afraid I don't know the address or phone number of who to
contact at Apple about this though.

My experience with the IIsi and Apple has not been very good either. No one
ever told me that disappearing files and icons when you first use the computer
are just System 7.0's way of saying hello, not a hardware problem. And no one
ever told me that losing the sound for several days is common to all IIsi's,
not just mine.

Hey Apple, if you're listening, how about keeping your dealers informed about
problems so your lowly users don't have to wrack their brains and pay extra
money for something that's your fault?

     -Hillel Sims
      Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
      simsh@rpi.edu

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:58:59 +0000
From: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell)
Subject: Dead mouse - just wondering (A)

We had a user come to see us with exactly the same problem: his ADB mouse
would point but not click.  We couldn't help, and pointed him at
replacements.

Fortunately he had an Electronicy friend who disected the dead mouse
(sounds horrid!) and recognised the microswitch.  We now have a note
carrying the (UK?) part number:
	Microswitch:  micro-miniature type "D2F(L)"
		      176-333 (plunger)

[Notes: There is also a "lever" type which is apparently NOT the one that's
wanted.  The "176-333" is the order code from Farnell Electronics in the
UK.  I presume the "type" information will be of more interest to
furriners]

Cost:   1 @ 61 UK pence + VAT  (around $1?)

--
		Mike B-)                        pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 11:00:29 PDT
From: Jerry Tangren <GSW$EN@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: dead mouse - just wondering (C)

WERTZCJ@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (Charles J. Wertz) writes

>The mouse on our 1 1/2 year old SI quit today. It seems like the little
>switch that the clicker hits was the problem.

Have Charles and I missed something? Here at WSU in Wenatchee, we bought
our three secretaries each a CI about 1 1/2 years ago. We now have three
dead mice. All failed within a two week period the beginning of this month
(September). And yes it's the clicker. We have contacted two different
dealers and have been told that there is no pattern. However, we
personally believe that there had to be a bad batch somewhere.

I have two of the belly-ups in front of me, and their serial numbers are

  LT120L08C22
  LT120KZPC22

Anyone else know more or have similiar experience.

Jerry Tangren (gsw$en@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu)
Tree Fruit Research & Extension Center
Washington State Univ
Wenatchee WA

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:32:04 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Subject: Documentation in "PostCard" Format

I just downloaded the latest version of DFD Editor and find that the User's
Guide is provided in the form of a "PostCard" document, created by the
Print2Pict Extension, according to its "About Box". The problem I have is
that I can't print the document. Every time I select 'Print' from the menu,
the application crashes with a "type 1" error. Get Info tells me that the
app wants 168K, and knowing that "type 1" errors are often memory problems,
I've increased the memory (in stages) to well over 1MB and I still bomb.

Is anyone familiar with this "PostCard" document format? It doesn't seem
really useful if you can't print the documents <g>.

BTW - we're using the standard LaserWriter drivers to access QMS printers
on the network, if that helps.

Thanks in advance,
  Jerry

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 1:51:05 EST
From: grads064@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Mak Rusli)
Subject: Ethernet Card Driver

Hi Everyone.

I have a hard time installing the ethernet card driver on the MacIIcx.
The card itself is manufactured by Apple, and I couldn't find the original
disk that came with the card anymore.

Fortunately, we have another recently purchased Mac that has an Asante
card in there.  In short, I just used the installation software to serve
my purpose.  However, when I launched the NCSA Telnet, I got an error
message saying error in the configuration file.

I don't know whether anyone has this problem, but your repond will be very ye
much appreciated. .o

Thanks in advance

Mak Rusli
Dept. of Computing & Info. Sc.
University of Guelph
Guelph, ONT, N1G 2W1
Canada

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 09:28:08 -0400
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Genie Internet Mail Access: Does it Exist?

Yes. :-)  Send mail to user.name@genie.geis.com

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>I was wondering if a gateway existed for sending e-mail from an
>internet-based mail system to Genie mail system (GE Mail)

--
Andrew Finkenstadt       | Vista-Chrome, Inc.   |           andy@GEnie
GEnie Unix Sysop/Manager | The Printing House   |    NIC Handle: AF136

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:52:46 CDT
From: fredh@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (laviathen)
Subject: Help: Want Mac programs from the net