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From: std_wilson@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: BOOK SEARCH - NEED HELP
Reply-To: std_wilson@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:24:18 GMT

	I just recently finished CRUSADE by David Weber and Steve White
and I found it to pretty good military SF.  Since finishing it I have
come across another book by the same two authors which seems to 
preceed it (both in date published and in the events of the story).
This one is called INSURRECTION.  I have also come across a book by
David Weber alone which is called MUTINEER'S MOON, however it does not appear   to be connected to the other two.
	I have two questions, first are there other books in the series 
CRUSADE and INSURRECTION appear to belong in? 
	Secondly have these two, Weber and 
White written anything else alone or together?
		thanks in advance
				Bill
From: rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Evolution of the Handlink (QL)
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:34:45 GMT
Reply-To: rck1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <2476.imc@uk.ac.ox.prg> imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.132528.2161@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>, gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote:
>
>>Is there any evidence that Sam *can* hear the 'link or the door?
>
>In "A Portrait of Troian", you might remember that something conspired to
>allow "ordinary" people hear Al via those strange seizmograph-things.  At
>one time, the brother (Jason, I think his name was) heard Sam talking to Al
>and thought he was playing clever tricks with his voice.  Then Al scarpered,
>and Jason said something to the effect of "Oh, so there's sound effects as
>well!" - so he must have been able to hear the chamber door.  Don't know
>about the handlink though...

Hmm. But Jason's ability to hear Al is, I think, due to some
different reason than Sam's ability--which possibly makes a
difference between what the two of them hear. I only say this
because there seems to be a bit of evidence that Sam *can't* hear
the IC door:

In "The Great Spontini," Al opens the IC door and stepps directly
into the shower as Sam is putting on the aftershave. Sam doesn't
react until Al speaks up, causing him (Sam) to start and spill the
bottle over himself.

In "Piano Man," Sam again doesn't react to Al's appearance in the
diner until he speaks, which also causes Sam to tip the cup of
coffee (is there a pattern here? :-)

That's all I can think of, off the top of my head...


Robin C. Kwong ("er)
				Observers do it admirably!
From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Murphy Brown Dialogue,Life imitates art
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:47:14 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University



Just gotta share this (I have been waiting over 4 years for this)

I am at work today and back from lunch noticed my voice message light
is on.  I hit speaker button, the voice mail button and I hear:  "Hi
mom, it's Juli.  The Stick is Blue.  Bye."

She wasn't sure I'd get it. Ha.  Remember Frank's reply? " The dog
barks at midnight."

This is how I hear that my first grandchild is on the way!

I'm ok, really I am.  Honest.  Excuse me.  I have to alert the media.

Thanks for your patience,

Fran Adams
From: ISTN100@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU ("ELLEN G. COHN")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Quantum Leap
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:29:02 GMT

Hi!  First of all, someone or the other asked about Bellisario knowing
Oswald.  I believe that they actually did serve in the same unit at
one point; there was something about it in a local paper.

Now, I have something that has NOTHING to do with the season premiere!!!
Okay, I am a recent convert to QL, mainly because I was living abroad for
most of the time it was on and didn't own a TV.  Anyway, as you all know,
USA has been rerunning QL (and guess what my VCR is doing at 6pm - grin, grin).
I've been getting a real kick out of the mini-encounters that are tossed
into some of the episodes.  For example, the other night, they ran a
show where Sam leaped into a rabbi.  During the show, this man starts
choking.  Sam rushes over, performs the correct procedure, and voila,
the man is okay.  The choking victim's companion cries out something like,
"Oh thank you!  Are you all right?  Are you all right, Dr. Heimlich?"
I practically rolled around on the floor laughing at that point! ;-)
I LOVED the look on Sam's face right then :-)  So, I was wondering, does
anyone have a list of these little chance encounters.  I remember one
where he met Michael Jackson as a child, and another that I think involved
a young Stephen King.  What else? 

Ellen - the crime doctor

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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: LHO--Oh, Brother! (SPOILERS)
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:13:10 GMT
	<1992Sep25.163408.18619@unlinfo.unl.edu>
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: aberigan@nde.unl.edu's message of 25 Sep 92 16:34:08 GMT

aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan) writes:
|>Oh, and did anyone else notice this?  Last year's season opener,
|>Al said it was September 1999.  This year's season opener, the
|>date is February 1999.  If that means that time is not linear back
|>at the Project, Sam could leap back home the day he left.  Only one
|>problem--AL REMEMBERS THE SIMO-LEAP!  And the idiot reminded Sam
|>of it.  I thought that was forbidden.

|Perhaps someone just forgot, and made a continuity error.  Or, perhaps
|those people who really want the next century to begin at the year 2000
|successfully lobbied that there be two years of 1999.

Is this why it's "forbidden" because LHO happened "before" the
SIMO-LEAP? 
--
Peace.
   The King, in fact, tops the list with 1974's "Having Fun With 
   Elvis on Stage," a 40-minute collection of his stage banter. 
   "Elvis Presley made some truly horrible records that stand today 
   as vivid arguments against barbituates."
             - J Guterman and O O'Donnell, authors of
               The Worst Rock N Roll Records of All Time 
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
From: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap - Season Opener
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:02:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: iscnvx.1992Sep30.180218.17748
Reply-To: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <Bv6C5u.AzG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.173244.19391@unlinfo.unl.edu> aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan) writes:
>>flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:
>>
>>>I prefer that his mind only leaps. How else could he fit into other
>>>people's clothes??? 8-)
>>
>>If only his mind leaps, how can he swim as a chimp?  On the clothes,
>>where's the FAQ when you need it.  Everything gets remapped.  However
>>some strange things have happened.  In "How the Tess Was Won", the guy
>>he leaped into wore glasses, but Sam didn't at any time -- if he can see
>>as a blind man, then his glasses would change.
>>
>>Or it is handled by God or Fate or whatever controls the leaps.
>
>More like it's controlled by the all important writers who change
>the "rules" of the show to fit the needs of each of their
>scripts.
>
>Flip
I think I have it figured. It's QUANTUM string theory, right? That 
probably means it has something to do with quantum mechanics, right?
Reference the uncertainty principal and "schroedinger's cat". Sam's 
body is a waveform of equal parts himself and the leapee, as the 
quantumly uncertain cat is equal parts live and dead.
From: truesdel@ics.uci.edu (R. Scott Truesdell)
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi channel's phone number?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: USA
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:43:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv

In article <1992Sep28.074714.1252@kithrup.COM>, sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric
Fagan) wrote:
>
> Does anybody have a phone number I can call to get in touch with the Sci-Fi
> channel people?  (Particularly programming.)

The SCI-FI CHANNEL
Marketing Department
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
212-408-9100

  --scott truesdell
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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap Premise
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:22:04 GMT

In article <7008@transfer.stratus.com>, hship@sw.stratus.com (Howard Ship) writes:
>In article <05OCT92.17733552.0065.MUSIC@MARISTB>, KL62%MARISTB@VM.MARIST.EDU ("Ryan, Edmund") writes:
>> Greetings:
>> 
>> I find the basic premise of Quantum Leap absurd in that Sam
>> changes lives on a personal level and not on a societal level.
[cut]
>
>Yes, but QL is a drama series (with some comedic aspects).  It is NOT
>science fiction, it just uses a science/fantasy premise to speed along
>its contrived premise.  I mean, Kane (in Kung Fu) had to wander in looking for
>water, hang around until heavily provoked, save the town, then wander off in search
>of his brother.  Sam leaps in and leaps out.
>
>Ultimatly, changing QL would weaken it.  See the controversy surrounding the
>Oswald episode.  QL reminds ME of the movie Always, where a ghost (Richard Dreyfus)
>becomes "the breath of inspiration" to young pilots.  Perhaps when Sam leaps out,
>his hosts are unaware of the leap, and just see that, for a time, behaved
>differently, and better.  Hopefully, this showed people that they could change
>for the better.
>
Besides which, the "butterfly effect" (small changes growing into huge ones
over time) is only one theory of time travel. Show me your working time
machine, and I'll concede that you are right and nothing else is
possible.
(My personnal *opinion* is that some points in history are easy to change
by the smallest of random occurences, and some are not.)
From: imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Evolution of the Handlink (QL)
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:57:35 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
X-Local-Date: Sunday, 27th September 1992 at 12:57pm BST
Originator: imc@msc3.comlab

In article <1992Sep25.132528.2161@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>, gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote:

>Is there any evidence that Sam *can* hear the 'link or the door?

In "A Portrait of Troian", you might remember that something conspired to
allow "ordinary" people hear Al via those strange seizmograph-things.  At
one time, the brother (Jason, I think his name was) heard Sam talking to Al
and thought he was playing clever tricks with his voice.  Then Al scarpered,
and Jason said something to the effect of "Oh, so there's sound effects as
well!" - so he must have been able to hear the chamber door.  Don't know
about the handlink though...

Ian Collier
Ian.Collier@prg.ox.ac.uk | imc@ecs.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:49:01 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <01GPEF637ZIW000EC0@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU> ISTN100@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU ("ELLEN G. COHN") writes:
>where he met Michael Jackson as a child, and another that I think involved
>a young Stephen King.  What else? 
>
>Ellen - the crime doctor
>
I remember one involving Donald Trump..... barely.

alex


Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan)
Subject: Sci-Fi channel's phone number?
Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:47:14 GMT

Does anybody have a phone number I can call to get in touch with the Sci-Fi
channel people?  (Particularly programming.)

Thanks!

-- 
Sean Eric Fagan  | "You can't get lost in one room, no matter how
sef@kithrup.COM  |  little effort you make to learn your way around."
-----------------+    -- William E Davidsen (william@crd.GE.COM)
Any opinions expressed are my own, and generally unpopular with others.
From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: SciFi Channel Schedule * REQUEST *
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:39:02 GMT
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Originator: alberti@staff.tc.umn.edu

Luckily, Nortel is carrying the SciFi Channel in our area.  Now all we
need is a schedule.  Does anyone have one or know where I can get one?
An e-mail reply would be appreciated, but there are probably other
folks here who would like to know as well.  Thanks!

-- 
		Reply to:  avatar@pnet51.orb.mn.org
 "Bowl a strike, not a spare; Revolution everywhere!"  -RABL credo
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:44:39 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct5.031837.23746@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pjm6z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Dave Lister) writes:
>>Just one question for those who saw it... after the end of this episode,
>>where can they go from here for the rest of the season?

>The one obvious thing that can and should be donw with the show is the
>end.  I think the best way to end the show would be to bring back
>Clancy Brown as the Kurgen and Lambert again and have it end with the
>Kurgen killing Duncan and leading into the very beginning of the first
>movie.

>I once read somewhere that they were planning even a third Highlander movie,
>according to the article the tentative title was Highlander III:The Magician.
>This article was written back before Highlander II was such a flop so who
>knows.

I heard this too, and reports said that it would deal with several immortals
who had been buried in a cave-in before the original Gathering returning
to Earth.  It would be set after the first Highlander flick and before the
second (thank you).

Now, the beauty of this explanation is, it implies that there is a way for
immortals to leave the Game.  Maybe the cave-in was on holy ground... which
would be a great loophole, because it implies that if Duncan stayed on his
sacred patch of land, he could have survived past the Gathering.  That
way they don't limit the time of the series.

  But, the best way to heal the wounds and allow for setup for a third
>movie could be a show like this.  Maybe they wanted Connor to be able to
>bring back another immortal besides Ramierez and Duncan will be the 
>candidate.  In fact the show could even heal the wounds of the Zeist
>disaster if they could get all the heavy weights from both movies (Connery,
>Lambert,Brown and Ironside).  Who knows but I am looking forward to the 
>season ahead.

Better still: Ignore Highlander II at all costs.  Kind of like the James
Bond producers ignored "Casino Royale".  If Connery is willing to come
back, find some other way.  Maybe just title the third flick "Highlander
III: The Apology" and leave it at that.  :-)
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:16:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct5.104610.5501@hellgate.utah.edu> driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D) writes:
>In article <15889@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu writes:
>>Just one question for those who saw it... after the end of this episode,
>>where can they go from here for the rest of the season?

>Well, I can answer the last one, since (for some odd reason) channel 5 here
>in Salt Lake got the _second_ episode instead of the first shipped to them...

Oops.  Are you sure?  The first episode basically just threw you into the
situation.  Was Christopher Lambert in yours?  If so, it was the first.

>The second episode was very well done... I'm a major fan of Highlander and
>often refuse to admit the existence of Highlander II: The Sickening, so I was
>very pleased that this is before the Gathering.  Since I missed the first,
>I'd like some info on the relationship between "Connor Macleod of the clan
>Macleod" and "Duncan Macleod of the clan Macleod"... this is the only part 
>which still worries me.

"Same clan... different vintage."  Connor was from the time of Duncan's
grandfather.  Apparently he'd become a sort of local legend, a story to
frighten children by.  Then Duncan got killed, and came back.  Apparently
whatever causes immortality (which is probably NOT being exiled from the
planet Zeist) runs in the clan.

>The flashbacks were nice here, similar to the first movie (although admittedly
>not as well filmed).  The whole episode was very well done, MUCH better than
>I was expecting.... I'm looking forward to this next week.

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: QL: Oswald explained
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:41:07 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1436@niktow.canisius.edu> salley@niktow.canisius.edu writes:

> > Jeremy Billones writes:
> > Greg Berigan writes:
> > >	- What was with the rabbit stuff?
> > I had trouble understanding those lines myself, and I'm not familiar
> > with that history of LHO.
> 
> It's not so much the history of LHO, so much as the history of animation.
> A popular cartoon character at the time was Oswald the Rabbit, sort of 
> a precurser to Bugs Bunny.  The rabbit jokes about Oswald was supposed to
> be an insult.  "You're a cartoon, not a real man" sort of thing.  - David

  Hasn't Bugs Bunny been around since the '40's?

  Wait a second!  Wasn't Jimmy Stewart in some movie involving an invisible
rabbit named Harvey?


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: st1qp@Elroy.UH.EDU
Subject: Re: QL: No blood? & How does he know it changed
Reply-To: st1qp@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 09:04:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.131758.1@skcla.monsanto.com>, jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>A couple of QL gaffes:
>
>1) In Lee Harvey Oswald, Sam gets rather brutally beaten bloody by his Marine
>seargent.  He leaps out seconds later, and is whole after the next commerical
>break.
>

This has always been a semi-problem for Quantum Leap. Personal theory of mine
is Sam is rejuvenated by the leaps.

>2) How can Al know that history has changed?  I've asked this before, but I
>want to see if there are any more creative answers.  If history has changed, he
>should have no memory of things having been different. I can see it for Sam,
>who has the continuous point of view, and maybe even for Al when he is in
>contact with Sam (tuning in on neurons), but there is at least one occasion
>where Al sees something change:  In Honeymoon Express, the senator running the
>panel approving PQL's funding changes at the end of the episode. Perhaps Ziggy
>is 'out of time' and can keep track of those changes?
>

In the episode where Roddy McDowall replaced Al, Sam stated that he would
eventually forget Al because he never knew him the current history.  However,
he did have lingering memories.  One could extrapolate this and assume that Al
is resistant to historical changes like Sam since they are on the same brain
frequency or whatever.


>Joel
>-- 
>jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-Matthew Tighe
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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:13:47 GMT

In article <NML.92Oct5171047@hq.lcs.mit.edu>, nml@hq.lcs.mit.edu (Newton Loui) writes:
>
>*** SPOILER PROTECTION *** (for those who think it necessary)

>
>If my memory serves me correctly (for some episodes):
>
>[the Halloween episode (I think)]
>At the end, Sam and Al discover that the kid neighbor's name is
>Stephen; his mother came to pick him up and Sam's character's love
>interest called her Mrs. King.  Said love interest is named Carrie.
>Sam's character said something about he thought Carrie was out to get
>him, thus inspiring Stephen to write about Carrie the demon car.  When
>Stephen got into his mother's car, he called out to his dog Cujo in
>the car.
>
Small correction: I don't remember the lady's name, but the
demon car was named "Christine". After the trouble with the car,
Sam (slightly dazed) says to Stevie (the name the kid was using),
"It was like in _Christine_," meaning the movie which hadn't yet
been made.  

Was the lady really Carrie? That one got by me ;-)

MAJOR PLOT SPOILER below.


Of course the real mystery is "Did Sam really give Stevie the
idea for the movie _Christine_." Supposedly, that whole episode was 
a dream Sam had while unconcious.
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From: mscott@charm.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Mark Scott)
Subject: QL: new theme song
Keywords: QL Quantum Leap song
Reply-To: mscott@urbana.mcd.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 14:08:24 GMT

---

Well, my wife, the local QL expert, definitely disapproves of the new 
theme song & opening clips. 

"The song's too Hawaii Five-O-ish.", she says. I guess I can't argue with that
one. Also, I thought the opening video clips were an obvious attempt on 
NBC's part to do the same thing they do on the teaser commercials; make
QL look like something it's not. 

Without giving away spoilers, we thought the season premier was definitely
a let down. Many of the standard QL rules/theories were stretched to the max
to say the least, all for the sake telling a Don's version of Oswald's 
biographical story. 

The ending was quite humorous we thought. I could feel the simultaneous
waves of mental double takes sweeping across the nation as Al explained the 
real purpose for Sam being there.

IMHO,
 Mark
From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: will sf channel survive?
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:59:27 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I question whether sfc can survive for more than a couple of years.
There is oonly so much sf out there, and a lot of that is BAD sf. 

I just can't see watching BG and Lost in Space year after year.
Any thoughts?

-- 
Brett Person
Guest Account	
North Dakota State University
person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to loose"
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