HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: VO2 max (was Re: Heart Rate Survey: Results)
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:58:02 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

In article <pyankdb.tomk@netcom.com> tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
>Time to take the VO2 max discussion over to the 
>rec.bicycles.tech conference.
>

Well, perhaps it belongs in .misc since it is not technically realted to 
bicycling equipment.

Or, perhaps it belongs in .racing since it deals with training to reach
maximum levels of perfromance.

Or, perhaps it should be cross-posted to all three so it will be
sure to get to the right group.

-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: rob@contempt.brisnet.org.au (Rob Amos)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Chain suck - my cure
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 16:40:01 +1000
Reply-To: rob%contempt%meteor@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au
Organization: Rob's pit of despair   >:-(

I'm only a commuting 35km a day cyclist with a mountain bike
'made up for the road' but I wanted to contribute my solution to the
continuing chain suck debate...

I had to replace my bottom bracket, and found that the longer axle
of the new bracket increased the clearance between the 
chain-rings and the chain-stay a bit (the gap was a bit small beforehand).

Now, when the chain chain flaps around after a middle-to-small chain
ring change,  instead of jamming, the extra chain ring clearance allows it
to bunch up a bit, and then get pulled back into line by derailleur
tension.  No Jam, No Crunched Chain, No More Metal Ground Off Chain-Stay.

Hope this helps someone.

-- 
__________________________________________________________________
This is where it ends     _  _  [_     Rob Amos
There ain't no more      [  (_) [_)    rob@contempt.brisnet.org.au
From: javiers@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Javier Sanchez)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:08:38 GMT
Subject: Mtb Bike Frame for Sale
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

Hi Everyone,

I'm posting this for a friend:

Kostrikin Frame, Fork and Stem.  Made in USA (Santa Rosa, CA)
frame mat'l: Custom Tubing (True Temper/Prestige)
Color: Clear Coated Metallic
Size: 19" center to center
extras: XT Headset and Bottom Bracket

$400.00 o.b.o. (Not including shipping)

Contact: Roger at 707-829-9271.
Or e-mail me any of your questions.


Javier
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Hubs built for straight spokes
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:04:40 GMT

yo

the reason that yon individual feels that a mountain bike never breaks spokes
but that a road bike does could be that he runs low tire pressures in the road 
bike, bottoming often and putting his probably not tensioned wheels through 
some extreme cycles.     (heh heh heh)

c.p.
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: ADVISE sought: WIFE doesn't wear helmet, etc. - how to make her do it?
Date: 30 Aug 1992 11:53:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pali+@osu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu

My wife loves her new (hybrid) bike and we have been going together a couple
of times a week for rides (6 to 25 miles). This is great. She even learnt how
to change speeds which she never did with her good old 3 speeder before. The
problem is that she cares more about her makeup than her safety. She wears no
helmet and no gloves. I finally bought her a helmet (the same as mine - Bell
Quest) but she still doesn't wear it (excuse: it's ugly, etc.). In addition,
she would never check the tires, oil the chains, etc. These bother me too,
though I could live with them. Anyway, am I alone on the net with such
problems?  Another (minor) problem: her average speed is 8 mph whereas mine
(if I am alone) is about 16 mph so that when we go together I get no workout
at all.  It's fun but it's like sitting in an armchair.  Any advice?  Any
suggestions?  Any comments? Take care...Paul


Paul Nevai                            nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
P.O. Box 3341                         1-(614)-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-0341, U.S.A.     1-(614)-459-5615 (FAX)

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: "David Coursey" <demoinfo@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Re: Damn REDNECK nailed me in Woodside!
Reply-To: david_coursey@infoworld.com
Organization: InfoWorld News/Dallas
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:41:32 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

>DATE:   Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:09:26 GMT
>FROM:   Thomas J. Monica <tomas@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>
>Well folks I've had my share of buttheads chasing me down wailing their horns
>and such, but yesterday really got me steamed.
>
>I was riding along 84, and turned on to portola at the climb and this kid
>(~18-22, dark hair) riding a beat up tan ford(?) pickup threw a full cup of
>water(?) in my face as I went by.
>
>Luckily it didn't affect my riding and I zipped around and almost caught him beo
>- opps - before he went up the hill. Got close enough to scream a few choice
>words in his window - I was too rattled to think about tossing a water bottle
>in his window (I wouldn't really do that would I? :-)) or get his liscence #.
>
>I've seen this son of a ____ before (I'm tempted to wait there for him on my
>Suzuki - let him try and out run that!). Watch out for him and if you do see
>him, send me his plate #. Maybe the police would actually do something!
>
>tom

Is this the worst thing that's ever happened to you?

Let's see, I've had water shot at me from a pressurized fire 
extinguisher and an open Malt Liquor can (spewing) rocketed at me from 
the back of a pick-em-up. I was aimed at by a school bus once....

Stop whining! <grin>

David

P.S. I am moving to your part of the world and you might want to stay 
away from me. The guy with the Colt 45 (malt liquor) might get a real 
gun this time!
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: SanDiego Riding in November
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:24:12 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

Sorry if this is a duplicate, but I tried to limit distribution of the first
post and got some strange error messages and no local posting.

I have a meeting in San Diego November 8 thru 13.  Is it worth bringing my road
bike?  

I'll be able to get a few hours off each day, but I'll be downtown (Convention
Center area) with no vehicle transport.  Anywhere interesting and *releatively*
traffic-free that I can go from there (20-40 miles round trip)?    

After the meeting I'm taking a few days vacation with family in the Newport
Beach area.  There I'll have transport.

Any local riding guides to recommend? Any local clubs running rides on the 7th
or 8th in San Diego?  What gearing (I don't know the area at all)?

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Medical College of Wisconsin
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: Re: Popping Joints !
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 08:55:06 EDT

Thus spoke the keyboard of u5115879@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au:
>About **bj**'s question regarding *popping* joints. I heard, on the science
>radio show here in sunny Melbourne, that the popping sound emitted from joints
>is not caused by bone or cartilage impacting or catching upon one another but
>is actually caused by the bursting of air (gas ?) bubbles formed or caught in
>the sinovial fluid of the joint !!. The sinovial fluid being the extremely
>thick gooey stuff related to lubricating the joint..

I'm a type that make popping sound all day from almost all joints. When I
have been to a doctor, I asked him/her about it and what caused it. I have
never heard about the gas theory, but I have been told that the main cause
is lack of lub in the joints. So perhaps the gas is there to replace it...

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+-+-+-+
* I went back to my mother,           * Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes           *
* I said, "I'm crazy ma, help me!"    * University of Trondheim            *
* She said, "I know how it feels son, * The Norwegian Institute of Tech.   *
* 'cause it runs in the family."      * Division of Physical Electronics   *
*       - The Who, Quadrophenia       * e-mail: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no  *
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Subject: Re: VO2 max (was Re: Heart Rate Survey: Results)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:05:32 GMT

scott@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (scott evans) writes:
: Careful...Improving one's power output at AT is quite different than
: improving the actual AT as a percentage of max.

It obviously depends on one's definition of "AT".  The clinical
definition is a particular blood lactate concentration.  In this sense,
one can never improve the AT - it is fixed at 4 mmol/l (or whatever the
correct units are).  Typically, what is of interest is the power the
athlete can produce at their AT.  While one could presumably maintain
the same power percentage relative to VO2max and elevate their power at
VO2max, I don't believe Conconi/Moser's methods are likely to do this.
I am further skeptical that an athlete of Moser's previous
accomplishments will see a substantial increase in their VO2max
regardless of training.

: Sorry that I wasn't specific. I'm referring to training for the purpose
: of racing where one wants to have high power at AT and have a high AT as
: a percentage of max.

For bicycle road racing there are physical attributes other than power
at AT which are important, and must be developed for the rider to win
races.  The rider must be able to produce significant power via the
lactic anaerobic metabolism, and be able to recover quickly from such
efforts.  This is necessary for actions such as bridging and
establishing gaps, maintaining contact over the tops of climbs,
establishing echelons in cross winds, and riding fast in small groups
(e.g.  TTT).  They also must be able to sprint well, which corresponds
to the alactic anaerobic mechanisms (ATP/CP), muscular strength, and
coordination.  These factors are much less important in events such as
time trials, or running events, where the impact of losing the draft is
much less or nonexistent.

Harry Phinney   harry@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com
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From: iba@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Wayne Iba)
Subject: Commute route Fremont-Silly Valley via 237
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:39:52 GMT


Bruce Hildenbrandt correctly pointed out in an email message that I had
been unclear about my recommendations regarding 237.  From Great
America Pkwy continuing west, 237 is a freeway and bicycles are
probably prohibited. (I haven't actually seen the signs but I do not
doubt it.)

To be more clear, I ride 237 east and west from Abel to Great Am.
(From Great Am to Lawrence I use Old Alviso and then work my way over
to NASA.)
From: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Numbness during extended bicycling & other overuse injuries
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:31:31 GMT
Reply-To: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute

josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam) writes:
> khe@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Keith Erskine) writes:
> >...  Very many long distance cyclists use aerobars explicitly to
> >relieve hand numbness (and sore triceps).  
> 
> I find that, besides reducing numbness and arm fatigue,
> aero bars are good at reducing lower back pain on long
> rides.  ...

I couldn't agree more with both of these views.  I started using Scott
clip ons three or four years ago.  It did take some time to get used
to them.  Probably took awhile to develop increased flexibility.  I do
not use the pads, although I did ride a triple once with the pads on.
I prefer without the pads, finding that the surface area of the handle
bars and clipons themselves is, if anything, greater than the surface
area of the pads.  Moreover, the pads get in the way of a climbing
grip up on the bars.  Without the pads, and using the rather narrow
Scott bars (narrower than the Profile bars I've seen), you have plenty
of upper handle bar left for climbing.  Finally, my method allows
a lower tuck position while using the aeros.  I admit that the neoprene
(or whatever) of pads is comfy.  I've been thinking of trying to
add thicker tape or something at the junction of the handlebars and
aerobars, but haven't gotten around to it.  Maybe I will soon.
Last, but not least, by not using the pads, you can experiement with
more varied upper arm positions and fore/aft usage of the aerobars.

Dennis
allard@isi.edu
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Tandem for Sale
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:32:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <BtwunH.L0C@well.sf.ca.us> jayr@well.sf.ca.us (Jay Roth) writes:
>
>The bike's in great shape, ready to go on a short or long tour. I had
>bought the bike a few years ago so my (now ex-)girlfriend (who was
>blind) and I could ride around SF, etc. The bike worked, the relation-
>ship didn't, and I still have the bike. 
>

Don't sell the tandem. Use it as an excuse to meet women!!!!

Flip


-- 
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  _-\<, -\<,_       flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu | West Lafayette, IN
 (_)/---|/-(_)      "We don't have enough power captain!!!"
From: rgo@druhi.ATT.COM (Ron Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Two excellent MTB handlebars
Keywords: one-piece bar and bar-end
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:28:31 GMT
Distribution: rec

Mountain bikers looking for one-piece handlebars
with integrated bar-ends should check out the following:

1.  The Scott AT2-LF bar with ski-tip bar-end
    is the lightweight champ, weighing in at 195 grams
    in the 23" width.  The 21.5" width weighs a mere 180 grams,
    less than some bar-ends.  The AT2-LF is also available in a 20" width.
    Airborn MTB (406-728-6252) has the 21.5" width for only $49.95;
    they're $74.95 at Nashbar and $69.50 at Colorado Cyclist. 

2.  The Flite Controls Longhorn bar with L-bend bar-end weighs
    265 grams, is 22" wide, and comes in 5 anodized colors.
    California Bicycle Supply (800-999-4745 or 415-349-9439)
    has a number of these with minor cosmetic defects
    (pitted finish) which they're selling
    for $44.95 instead of the usual $54.95.

I put the AT2-LF on my mountain bike and the Longhorn on
my girlfriend's mountain bike last month.
I had a little trouble getting the AT2-LF through the stem clamp,
but the thumb shifters and brake levers went on without too much
difficulty.  The Longhorn bar mounted fairly easily.

I put Grab-on grips on the AT2-LF, with 2 wraps of ODI Attack tape
(stretchy non-adhesive rubber) on the bar-ends.
I also put Grab-on grips on the Longhorn, with Sampson Fat Wrap
on the bar-ends.  Both setups are working out very well.

My base hand position on the AT2-LF is about 2" narrower than
with my old setup (560mm bar with Onza L-bend bar-ends),
due to the curve between the bar and the bar-end,
but the position on the bar-ends is the same.
I like being able to vary my hand position along the curved
part of the bar; something I couldn't do with a straight bar
with a separate bar-end.

Neither the AT2-LF or the Longhorn bar flexes at all on hard climbs.

These bars are great values, costing not much
more than bar-ends alone, yet weighing much less than
other bar and separate bar-end combinations.
Both are highly recommended.

	Ron Olsen
	Boulder, Colorado
	r.g.olsen@att.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: stigmata@athena.mit.edu (???)
Subject: blackburn floor pump
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:09:41 GMT

andy

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ayao@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Subject: FOR SALE--Cannondale ST400 Touring Bike
Originator: ayao@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:09:47 GMT


I live in Saint Louis Missouri and would like to sell my 
1988 Cannondale ST400 Touring Bike.  It's a 21" Mens, color black.
If interested, Email to:
 ayao@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: bdahlen@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Robert L. Dahlen - U. of Denver USA=)
Subject: Re: Recommendations on which bicycle rack to purchase wanted.
Keywords: rack
Organization: University of Denver
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:35:10 GMT

Nothing but good things to say about my Yakima racks and they have never
flown off the car!

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From: s1029708@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert Blanchett)
Subject: Trikes...
Summary: names of trike manufacurers required
Keywords: tricycles
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:18:49 GMT

Can anyone provide any information or recommend any trike manufacturers in
the US/UK.
There's nobody really down here.
Please mail the info if possible as the news feed's a little unreliable.

Cheers!

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.antiques
From: judy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (judith.diehl)
Subject: 1963 RANGER 3 SPEED GIRL'S BIKE  FOR SALE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:43:41 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: RANGER   3 SPEED   1963


                            
                              FOR SALE

 
               * 1963 RANGER bike (STURMEY ARCHER) 

               * Made in England by Phillips

               * 27 Inch

               * Blue Metalic Paint  (No rust or body damage)

               * Gears need work

               * New Tires

               * Parts list and assembly instructions booklets included
                 (Bike is assembled and has been ridden many miles)




         MAKE AN OFFER - HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS BIKE IS WORTH   !!!!!!



                 BIKE IS LOCATED IN HIGHLAND, INDIANA



               

                         Judy Diehl   AT&T  Network Systems
                         
     Please respond via EMAIL or call (708) 224-6963 (mornings)
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From: kenwood@stsci.edu (Ken Anderson,S403,4758,ADD.11-25-91)
Subject: FOR SALE 56 cm Quattro Assi
Reply-To: kenwood@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:58:02 GMT

		FOR SALE


	Beautiful (red/grey) 56 cm (c-c) Quattro Assi.
	Reynolds 653

	Frame/fork	$500

	or buy the bike with full Campy C-record
	(retrofriction shifters, cobalto brakes)
	(no pedals or wheels)
	130mm (8speed) rear spacing
	w/ 3ttt bar+stem (44cm, 13.0 cm)

			$1250

	This road bike has nice laid back angles (72.5 parallel) and 
	has not been ridden.  Perfect but is just too small for me.

	Send replies to kenwood@stsci.edu
	or call @ 410 338 4758 (day)
		  410 889 8827 (eve.)

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ristad@elan (Eric Sven Ristad)
Subject: hybrid bicycle recommendations
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:40:58 GMT

Can you please recommend a low-end (<$400) hybrid bike?
It's primary use would be commuting on roads in an upright riding
position.  I strongly prefer 27"/700cm rims and a relaxed geometry.

Thanks,
Eric
From: ejk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EDWIN J. KAY)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Desperately seeking TA chain ring
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:18:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I have a TA crank with triple chain rings, the smallest ring being a 32.  I
would like to replace it with a 24 tooth ring.  Does anyone know where I can
get such a ring?  None of the local shops have one.
-- 
  --Ed
-------------------------------
Edwin J. Kay, CSEE, 117 Packard Lab, 19 Lehigh U, Bethelehem, PA 18015
(215)758-3623  EJK0@NS.CC.LEHIGH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Windsor/Dura Ace track bike, sale or swap
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:51:37 GMT

Still for sale: My Windsor 59cm track bike with all Dura-Ace gruppo
except for the pedals, which are Campy-copy Japanese quills. Includes
two forks, orginal plus one drilled for brake. Hubs are laced to MA-40
clincher rims, but I also have the original "Windsor" label rims- which
are probably Rigidas. Seat post is Cinelli, I believe. Seat is labeled
Windsor and is leather covered.
 
The bike is all Columbus tubing with Cinelli lugs. I've been told that
despite the "Windsor" name the bike is a Cinelli made in Mexico. Two
people have told me this, but I can't say for sure. It's a fine bike
for beginning on the track.
 
I'd like to get $500 or best offer; I will also gladly swap for a
58 cm road frame of suitible quality, or some combination of parts and
cash.
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: smiller@cwis.unomaha.edu (steven m. mlynarek)
Subject: CANNNONDALE MTB WANTED
Wanted: CANNONDALE MTB, must have a 22 inch frame, must be located 
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:00:48 GMT
From: Bernd.Kischnick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bernd Kischnick)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: 11T cogs
Summary: 11T cogs for suntour u-7 free wheel
Keywords: cogs freewheel
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:21:50 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Sep1.051154.3055@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel) writes:
>you can get 11T cogs for SunTour Winner Pro freewheels but -- dig
>this `little' hole -- you can only get them for 6-speed spacing!
>
>It's the `Z' designation cog, and it really exists, I had one in my
>hand today.

I say it should be possible you use that u-6 cog on a u-7 freewheel.
You'd have to get the 2nd cog as well.
The 2nd cog for six speed spacing has no fixed spacer to the inner side.
You have to make one yourself and can provide seven speed spacing
between the 2nd and third cog.
You get a freewheel spaced for seven cogs except for the space between
first and second. This is not that much of a difference that it
wouldn't get into your frame anymore. If you are friction shifting,
there are absolutely no problems; else I think the first position
of even an indexed lever is not an index, but just the adjustable
outer position of the derailleur.

Plan B:
The threading of the second cog (type L) for seven speed spacing is the same
as the threading on the hub to mount the freewheel.
So instead of a non-existent U-11 cog you could mount a fixed cog
as used for track racing or fixed-gear training.
This worked for me with a 15 T cog.
But you have to do some filing on the fixed cog,
as the theaded part is too wide, 
and the teeth are high and pointed --- file that off.

Thus your problem is reduced to finding an 11T fixed gear cog
for narrow chain. What could be easier! :-)

-   Bernd.

urgent email to Bernd.kischnik@cdc2.ifum.maschinenbau.uni-hannover.dbp.de

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