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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: One more reason to hate "Cost of Living"?
Keywords: error, Cost, Living
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:38:46 GMT

In article <Bt5A53.D0I@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Claw ) writes:
>Which episode was the "Cost of Living"? I saw all of them once, but I
>can't remember anyone that I hated as much as it seems people hated 
>this one...

Then you're one of the few cases where amnesia proved to be
a blessing.

Count your fortunes.

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  "This season began with a turkey. I'm simply trying to see 
   that it doesn't end that way." -- fictitious Paramount writer

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From: matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks)
Subject: Re: Fake Spoilers
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:05:48 GMT

>I would also like to add that even if I had been fortunate enough to
>have missed the original BIG SPOILER posting to which Jeff refers (I was
>NOT that fortunate), there is NO way I could have missed all the follow-up
>posts which flamed the original poster and:

> * INCLUDED THE SPOILER IN THE HEADER AND/OR BODY OF THE POST (no ^L's) *

>Not everyone did this, but a great many did.  Not too smart, people.

But-but, how could you have missed the first post. I don't understand.
Don't you check this group like once every five minutes to make
sure you haven't missed Sirtis' latest appearance on Letterman or the fact
that in the second episode of the new season Pickard's head explodes and 
we discover that he's really a mutant bombadier beetle from the planet
Raid. :-) (Reality check. Don't flame me. Not a real spoiler; a joke.)
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From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Smithsonian
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 20:25:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug17.202448.6722@udel.edu>

>Definately go and get your tickets early in the morning at the stand in the
>lobby. When I went the day's ticket allotment was used up by noon. You can
>grab them when the museum opens and look at the other exhibits or even go
>to other museums until your assigned time rolls around.
>
>Lou
>

Just wanted to add that people will be in line on the back-side of the museum
(the side that doesn't face the mall) BEFORE the museum opens.  I think I
was there about 11:00 am on a Saturday and was able to get tickets for
4:30 pm

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
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From: ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET
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Subject: Re: Crew Eccentricities
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:17:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92225.101755ICSCH
 <1992Aug7.122820.26307@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <rrheaume.50@emr1.emr.ca>
 <1992Aug10.211943.22822@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
Organization: Arizona State University

What about the Commandant of Starfleet Academy?  THAT'S a powerful woman!
Hey, if I were in Wesley's shoes during "The First Duty," I'd be ********
bricks at warp speed...
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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Not only does he get beat up, but ..
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:35:40 GMT

winstead@faraday.ece.cmu.edu  writes:
> Just a thought,
> 
> Not only does Work get beat up all the time, but did you ever notice that 
                   ^
> whenever there's a controversy over what to do, Picard waits for Worf's
> suggestion and then does the opposite. 
> 
> Picard: These's a unidentified ship approaching, what do we do?
> Troi:   They don't feel hostile, try and make contact
> Riker:  I suggest raising shields and attempting to hail them
> Work:   Blow them up now before I get beat up
     ^ 
> Picard: Ok, we'll hail them
> 
> It's pretty funny how often this happens.
> 
> Just a thought,
> 
> -Chuck

	Who is Work? :+)  I know, just kidding.
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: "The VISION"
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:56:00 GMT

In article <93338@bu.edu> kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:

>The crew of the Enterprise may be an exception in their abilities to
>work together, since they are the crew of the Fed flagship.  However,
>they have confidence in each others abilities and training and trust
>each others decision making. It's not so much like the perjorative
>`Mutual Admiration Society', but rather trust in your co-workers and
>fellow officers. That was part of Gene's `Vision'.
>
>I find it rather interesting that people can suspend disbelief and
>really see us evolving technology to warp drives and transporters, but
>can't see humans evolving culturally into a society like that
>portrayed in ST.

I suppose that's because I see the invention of something like a 'warp
drive' as a mere technical hurdle, no different than assembling the
technologies necessary to put Neil Armstrong on the moon.  Eliminating
basic human qualities?  _That's_ not something that can be achieved so
easily.

Perhaps it is possible that one day, humans (or even aliens) of all
extractions will live together in peace and harmony.  Can I necessarily
relate to that today or find it realistic?  No.  Do I find that it makes
interesting drama?  Definately not.

"Geordi, how are _you_ today?"

"Just _super_, Commander.  And yourself?"

"Simply smashing, thank you very much.  My, but the universe is swell
today, isn't it?"

"I'll say!"

Obviously, I'm overstating the case just a bit, but some of the early
episodes remind me very much of this type of banal chatter.
Fortunately, as the seasons have worn on, things have settled down quite
a bit.


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From: keith@csc.liv.ac.uk (Keith Halewood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Vulcans in TNG
Date: 12 Aug 92 09:22:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1992Aug11.173418.25121@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
> Even if it were true that there were fewer appearances of Vulcans in
> TNG, it wouldn't bother me a bit.  The ones that we have seen have been
> so poorly played as to be embarassing.  Let's face it, the only
> convincing portrayals I've ever seen have come from Nimoy and Mark
> Lenard (and possibly the woman who played T'Pau in 'Amok').  I've never
> seen such emotive Vulcans as the ones they get for TNG.

Selar was a pretty 'typical' Vulcan in Schizoid Man, especially when examining the explosive Dr. Graves. Lots of raised eyebrow and cold, measured pronouncements.

Keith
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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: BABYLON 5: Rest of the Casting, First day of filming
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 06:15:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

>|> >I don't think that this continuing info update on B5 belongs on this
>|> >group, anyway.  This is not rec.arts.babylon5.current.  This is really a
>|>
>|> I disagree here.  I really think that this is the best place for updates 
>|> of this kind.  This show is definitely not Trek, but it IS a sf tv show,
>|> 
>What about rec.arts.sf.tv ?  The B5 posts that we see in r.a.s.c are also
>posted in that group as well.  Untill rec.arts.b5, maybe all the talk about
>b5 should be done in that group.
>

My $0.02:  this is NOT Trek.  rec.arts.sf.tv is the *best* place appropriate
at this time.  Yes, I can killfile it, but should not have to.  Read the
netiquette guide.

The fact is, if it were not here, I might read rec.arts.sf.tv just for it, 
but that is the way it *should* be.  I expect if it nearly lives up to the
reputation it is building here, I will be a fan, and also it would soon be
popular enough for its own group.  Until then, I prefer the guidelines be 
followed, else we risk extended discussion of other non-Trek tv.sf just
because it hasn't its own group. Apologies to those who can't get r.a.sf.tv,
but someone with the authority to do so made *that* decision.
From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL INFORMATION - SEASON 6 AND DS9  !SPOILERS*!
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:49:03 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <1992Aug16.132855.20037@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>>Those of us who attended a Creation Con in Minneapolis today with Marina
>>Sirtis were treated to some spoiler information on the first few episodes
>>of Season 6 and on DS9.
>>SPOILERS!
>>
>
>>
>>First, info on Season Six straight from Marina Sirtis' mouth on the
>>first four episodes of the new season:
>>
>>"Time's Arrow II"  
>>By the way she speaks of it, prepare to be disappointed, as the thing is
>>still very confused even after Part II is finished she says.

Actually, that's good news to me.  I liked the fact that TA was somewhat
complex and made me think and watch it twice to get more out of it.

I like to see layers in the episodes.  I like to be challenged but
not utterly stymied.  Sins Of The Father and Yesterday's ENterprise
give me anyday!  

I liked Back To The Future II for the very reasons a lot of people
went away scratching their heads ("Duh, I shouldn't have gone for more
popcorn cuz now I'm so c o n  f   u   s      e          d").

Actually, some people watched the whole thing (even twice) and were
STILL confused?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ferenc
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: The Price...
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:45:04 GMT

In article <BssuoI.D5r@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> ksmulgun@napier.uwaterloo.ca () writes:
>In article <9208101957.AA03588@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu>, asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher) writes:
>> In article <7811@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> you write:
>> >Just saw a re-run of "The Price" and noticed that Troi was able to sense
>> >that the Pharengi Commander was bluffing about destroying the wormhole.
>> >I thought that the Pharengi were 'unreadable' by Betazoids empathic powers.
>> 
>> Sigh.  Just another HUGE inconsistency on the part of the writers.
>> 
>
>Not neccesarily.  Troi could have been able to read the Farengi's facial expression to determine that he was bluffing.

Finally proving that she posesses no special ability determining the
emotional state of others.  At least nothing more than the "normal" crew
(and audience) posesses.

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From: adamsd@crash.cts.com (Adams Douglas)
Subject: Re: Question about TOS
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:15:33 GMT
Keywords: TOS

It's my observation also that in ST:TNG they seem to make a point that 
real-time during the season is the same as elapsed time on the show. We
hear repeated references to earlier episodes and whenever they say how
long ago it was, it's always the same as realtime for that episode.

It would seem that TOS could have gone on another two seasons without 
exhausting the 5-year mission--even though they never explicitly collrelated
time like they're doing in TNG. Remember also, that only some of the books
are supposed to happen _during_ the 5-year mission. Some happen before or between
the films and a few happen before TOS.
From: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk) (M i c h a e l ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Warp Scale (was star trek vi: the und)
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:35:51 GMT
Reply-To: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk
Distribution: rec
Organization: Magic Michael's Mushroom Factory.

In article <1992Aug14.120405.28163@rosevax.rosemount.com>, marknew@hydro.rosemount.com (Mark Newman) writes:
|> Greetings,
|> 
|> I've been following the FTL debate here and decided to offer
|> my two bits. A few years back I read a book by a noted British 
|> astronomer in which he stated that Einstein's laws only state
|> that travel *at* the speed of light is impossible; speeds faster
|> than light are possible under his equations. The author did 
|> add that the mathematics required to prove this were somewhat
|> involved, and that a way would have to be found to make the 
|> jump from .99c to 1.01c without passing 1.0c.  
|> 

I thought that it was that one/anything could never break the speed of light barrier
whether thats from .9999999c to 1.00000001c OR VICE VERSA (eg tachyons travel >1.0c
and can't slow down to <1.0c)....
The question of whether information can be transfered at a speed/velocity greater than
that of light is another matter (or energy/c**2 :-)

<Michael>
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL INFORMATION - SEASON 6 AND DS9  !SPOILERS*!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:28:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.033436.3973@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>Those of us who attended a Creation Con in Minneapolis today with Marina
>Sirtis were treated to some spoiler information on the first few episodes
>of Season 6 and on DS9.
>
>So, let's warn people off......
>
>SPOILERS!
>

>I'm not kidding......
>
>
>
>
>
>First, info on Season Six straight from Marina Sirtis' mouth on the
>first four episodes of the new season:
>
>"Time's Arrow II"  
>By the way she speaks of it, prepare to be disappointed, as the thing is
>still very confused even after Part II is finished she says.
>
>Episode Two:
>Features the return of Lieutenant Reginald Barclay played again by Dwight
>Schultz.   This time he has a neurosis about transporters; i.e. he is
>terrified to use them and he seeks Troi's help to cure it.
>
>She names Episode Three but I can't remember what it was now, oh well,
>it is a heavy-duty Troi episode in which Marina gets aged and is thus
>required to wear heavy make-up, giving Marina a new-found respect for
>Michael Dorn and his make-up.
>And in this episode, Troi *dies*...................

A good night's sleep has brought the name back to my mind.
This episode is to be called "Man of the People."


>Episode Four:
>Guest star is James Doohan as Scotty, and he is indeed picked up in the
>transporter having been held in accidental stasis for over 75 years.
>He is still alive and in their time frame at the end allowing him to do
>further guest shots on this show or on DS9.
>
>These four episodes are "in the can."  Whether they will be transmitted in
>exactly this order is another question though.....
>
>
>Not too much on DS9 we didn't already know....
>The casting is almost finalized, and an African-American "well known to
>television viewers" has been cast as Commander Sisko.  At present, we
>still don't know any names of people on this series, but they (those
>people) all know who they are, with the exception of the "attractive
>28-year-old female host for the Trill character," yet to be finalized.
>Ensign Ro will NOT be in this series, her character has been replaced by
>a B'Joran military Major, still female though.
>
>The sets are pretty much built, and Marina says the DS9 sets make the
>Enterprise sets look like a ToyLand......
>
>Once the Trill is cast, filming can commence in just a couple of weeks now....
>
>
>and that;s the freshest news from the Paramount Lot from the mouth of 
>Marina Sirtis.
>
>
>					Steve
>
From: craven@cg.emr.ca (Jim Craven)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Schwartzenneger in STTNG??
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:21:11 GMT
Reply-To: craven@cg.emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines & Resources, Canada

In article 714280757@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu, lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>I saw this on WPIX New York news tonight.  Apparently, Arnold
>Schwartzenneger is a Star Trek fan and will be appearing in an episode
>of TNG this season as an alien captain.
>
Don't tell me...Picard has been scheduled for Termination....
>
>-- 
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>"I want to be Robin to Bush's Batman."  Dan Quayle
>Quick!  Notify DC.  I think it's time for another 900 number poll.
>"We are enjoying a sluggish economy & not enjoying it very much."  --Bush

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From: jfaubert@fraser.sfu.ca (Jean-Paul Faubert)
Subject: Re: BABYLON 5: Rest of the Casting, First day of filming
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:32:53 GMT

In article <BszoD0.H24@cs.dal.ca> lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner) writes:


(stuff about Babylon 5 deleted)


>
>I'd rather it stay here, as I can't get rec.arts.sf.tv.
>What I'd REALLY like to know is how folks in Canada are gonna be able to
>see this show when it does go on the air.
>
>						Chuck

Is it not being shown on an American network?
How do you see TNG now?
Are you suggesting that people in Halifax don't get
US channels or that it won't be shown on "regular" tv?

jp






















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From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL INFORMATION - SEASON 6 AND DS9  !SPOILERS*!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:24:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.041642.9898@eng.umd.edu>, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes...
}In article <1992Aug17.021615.14267@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
}>In article <1992Aug16.033436.3973@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:

SPOILERS...
}
}>>Episode Four:
}>>Guest star is James Doohan as Scotty, and he is indeed picked up in the
}>>transporter having been held in accidental stasis for over 75 years.
}>>He is still alive and in their time frame at the end allowing him to do
}>>further guest shots on this show or on DS9.
}>
}>Eeeeech. Blech. The son of "Unification." No thanks.
} 
}It is beginning to seem a little bit contrived, isn't it?  I just hope that
}Doohan doesn't do that yelling that he calls acting thinking he can get
}away with it.  Anyway, I hope they play it for fun, unlike most of "UII," 
}which was a little too serious most of the way through.

I just hope that they do this right. I mean, really, I can just see it:

Chief Miles O'Brien is cleaning the transporter controls, when he wipes
dirt and dust from a never-before-seen light -- and it's blinking. His
face wrinkles with confusion, then he starts hitting control pads and
messes with the wiring. He slides his hand up the energizing slider and
the transporter springs to life -- the beam fades and whines for a while,
getting wider as it fills the whole transporter pad. Then, it clears, and
there stands Scotty. He blinks, and starts screaming in his brogue, wondering
where he is, how he was fixing the blasted transporter on the Enterprise
when suddenly he was somewhere else. Scotty becomes suspicious of Miles,
thinking the Irish are behind it all...

You get the picture. As long as they don't do something like THAT, where
somehow he's been trapped in the Enterprise-D's (!) transporters, it might
be OK. Kinda like the person a short while back who posted saying they'd
like to see an episode where Picard stumbles across Kirk's last Captain's
Log... Not really possible, considering they aren't the same ship... 

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From: 6500sws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Susan W. Stockwell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere - Troi shaves Head
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:39:48 GMT






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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Riker turns down the Bimbo-Of-The-Week!!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:40:02 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <6066@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>come on, everybody play along!
>just make up a goofy idea for the new season (the more ludicrous, the better)
>and forget about those silly spoiler warnings!

>loads of fun!

Hey, you're right!


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