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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: shaved heads
Summary: US volleyball team shaves their heads in protest of ruling
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:55:59 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

Hey, guess what, they actually did it... the US volleyball team shaved
their heads in protest of the decision to give the first match to
Japan.  Even Steve Timmons.

Rachele

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From: dmartin@pico.engr.mun.ca (Dan Martin)
Subject: RE: Olys are not for nice people only
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:56:54 GMT

>and earned it. One wrote a book, when I heard about it, BEGGED him
>not to mention my name.  thankfully he didn't.

Was this book called "The True Amateur"?

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[stuff deleted]
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>Being a champion has no effect on personality, good or bad, believe
>me.  You are either a good person who is a champ, or a bad person
>who is a champ.

>BTW in my int'l experience, unsportsmanlike conduct is not limited
>to the USA.

Unsportsmanlike conduct is out there more than a lot of people realize.
It seems like some athletes cannot come to grips with just competing for
excellence in sport and to push yourself to new levels of fitness.
They envision all the competitors in ther race or game as enemies and that is
where unsportslike conduct comes  to play. 

I, myself, fall into this trap many times in my rowing
competitions and training.   It is easy to understand the philosophy of good
competition but in the heat of battle strange emotions and fears run
through you mind.  I am happy to say that over the years I have learned
to be my only enemy in my race. 

regards,
Dan



>Mike
From: alvstad@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Men's Basketball - Munich '72
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:14:09 GMT
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN

In article <1992Jul31.142125.28671@brtph560.bnr.ca> appleyar@bnr.ca writes:
>Does anybody remember the complete story of the end of
>the men's basketball championship game between the U.S. 
>and USSR in the 1972 summer games?  I seem to remember:
>
>1.  U.S. wins after sinking two free throws with 11 seconds to go.
>2.  Some guy with no authority comes out of stands and says 
>    game clock was incorrect.
>3.  Time is put back on clock; Soviets get one last chance but miss.
>4.  Guy with no authority claims not enough time was put back on clock.
>5.  Time is put back on clock again; this time the Sovs 
>    make a last second layup and win the gold medal.
>
>On NPR last night they had a story about this game and said time
>was put back on the clock only once.  Which is right?
>
>Incidentally, the U.S. team did not accept the silver medal and
>still have not accepted it.  The gist of the story last night 
>is that some of the players (Tommy Burleson was interviewed) are
>ready to forgive the officials and accept the medal, but most
>of the players do not feel they deserve the silver so they don't 
>want it.  
>
>It sounded like this episode infuriated a lot of people!   
>However the other events occuring in Munich at the time kind of makes
>the outcome of some basketball game seem pretty insignificant.
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>-= Doug Appleyard  =-=-=-=-=-=-= voice: 919-991-7805  esn: 294-7805 -=
>=- appleyar@bnr.ca -=-=-=-=-=-=- warning: not the views of bnr inc. =-
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>

I seem to remember hearing a similar story.  From what I heard, this was the
sequence of events:

1) Doug Collins makes two free throws with THREE not 11 seconds left.
2) Soviets immediately inbound ball while coach was trying to call time.
3) Soviets miss half-court shot--USA wins gold.
4) Soviet coach complains that he was trying to call time. 
5) President of International Basketball Federation comes from stands and
   order 3 seconds placed back on clock, as well as a Soviet time out.
6) After time out, Soviets inbound ball, miss half-court shot--USA wins gold.
7) President of IFB says that the time out wasn't long enough, orders another
   3 seconds on the clock.
8) Soviets throw full court pass, caught by really tall guy over shorter USA
   player, Soviet turns and banks a two footer off the glass.  Soviets win gold.9) USA files protest, but is not granted.
10) USA refuses to show at medal ceremony while Soviets receive gold.
11) To this day, 12 silver medals sit in the vault of a Munich bank...

That's the way I've heard it..

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu
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From: narsimha@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Narsimha Polkampally)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:58:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.193641.15742@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) wrote: 
>>One stupid comment?  I sat through an entire rendition of the New World Order
>>according to George Bush as read by Bob Costas.  
>
>you're absolutely right.  it almost sounded like an energizer ad:
>country x: still fighting ... 
>

	I agree... I expected better.

Cheers,
_P
From: krazykid@csa.bu.edu (Ernest Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Cool Arrow Thing
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:31:33 GMT
	<1992Jul26.192435.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au's message of 26 Jul 92 10:24:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.192435.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:

   In article <_nkmy+@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

   > Damn cool way to light the torch. Pretty awesome looking.
   > Almost (but not nearly) made up for the interminable commercials.

   It's qool when you know about it about 2 months beforehand!  :vP

   I hear "you people" in the US got it on delayed telecast if you didn't have
   PPV.

   This is because I was talking to rachele@cs.rice.edu and she said something
   to the effect of "4 hours to go" and I said "We'll it has just started live
   in Australia".

   I think she was amazed that NBC delayed it until the evening in the US.

   Rod Swift

This is NBC (or any other TV station for that matter).  They have to
make the most amount of money they can regardless of timeliness.  So
this means you have to deal with the time delays.  I remember networks
being able to reschedule events so that they would show up live during
prime time in the US, but that was when time difference wasn't that
great.  *shrug*  

Ernie
krazykid@csa.bu.edu
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From: etchuck@helix.nih.gov (Emil Thomas Chuck)
Subject: MEN'S BASKETBALL RESULTS (preliminary day 4)
Keywords: basketball
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:37:09 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 04:00:00 GMT

As of 3:30PM ET, the final results I have are
PUR 96	VEN 82
ANG 83	ESP 63
AUS 88	CHN 66
EUN 92	LIT 80
TO BE DECIDED: CRO-GER, USA-BRA

Current standings:
POOL A				POOL B
USA	3-0	6		EUN	4-0	8
CRO	2-1	4		LIT	3-1	6
GER	2-1	4		AUS	3-1	6
BRA	1-2	2		PUR	2-2	4
ANG	1-3	2		CHN	0-4	0
ESP	1-3	2		VEN	0-4	0

--
Emil Thomas Chuck 			etchuck@helix.nih.gov
In the last month of innocence: senior year begins August 31, 1992 (Duke)
"Spending the taxpayers' money as I want." 
DISCLAIMER: You don't think I'd speak for the government, do you?
From: cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Cyndi Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Cycling results ? (none so far)
Date: 29 Jul 1992 17:13:35 GMT
Organization: MD Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Jul29.154858.8367@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
djconnel@leland.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Connelly) writes:
> 
> In article <1626@spam.ua.oz> dcook@spam.ua.oz (David Cook) writes:
> >Hello all,
> >  I haven't noticed any cycling results here so far. Are they just 
> >being held up by the Net (unlikely, as other day 1 & 2 news has 
> >reached here), or has the volunteer un-volunteered ?
> 
> 
> from UPI:
(Many results deleted)

I am the volunteer mentioned above and I have been posting results and
comments (as soon as I can get a hold of them...)
I hadn't posted the UPI results included in the referenced post because
I never saw them in my local paper (my only source, other than NBC, bleagh).
As I commented in one of my other posts, I will be happy to collect and 
summarize any comments, additional results, etc. anyone sends me (or posts
here or in rec.bikes) about the cycling events. I am summarizing for myself 
(including the UPI results above) and will gladly send (or post at the end 
of it all, if enough requests) what I have.

To David Cook:
I never saw your message, just Daniel Connelly's reply to it.  Possibly
our machines just refuse to share messages...8>) 8>) 

-------------
All opinions are mine, I tell you, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE (unless 
you want to rent them for a small fee...)
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-M.D. Anderson Cancer Center-----Houston, Texas
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Result-W's 100m Butterfly Heat 6
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:28:53 GMT

   Heat 6
 1.  Wang Xiaohong (China)                            59.34
 2.  Susan O'Neill (Australia)                        59.95
 3.  Rie Shito (Japan)                              1:01.04
 4.  Ilaria Tocchini (Italy)                        1:01.37
 5.  Yoko Kando (Japan)                             1:01.56
 6.  Jacqueline Delord (France)                     1:01.78
 7.  Julie Kathryn Howard (Canada)                  1:02.89
 8.  Natalia Jacovleva (CIS)                        1:03.18

Rod Swift
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From: bajunaida@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: BOB the baldy!!!
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:37:38 GMT


By the when is NBC's BOB shaving off his head in protest against
people who are protesting against his commentary??? 

Come on BOB -- u will look good without your hair and as such u are 
smart without your brains!!!!!!!!!!!


BAJU

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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: Who is the commentator in the diving?
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:31:34 GMT

In article KKC@news.cso.uiuc.edu, pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>jshen@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Jun Shen) writes:
>
>>In article <yzhou.712177156@void> yzhou@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Ya Zhou) writes:
>>>Can somebody tell me who the female commentator is in the diving event?
>>>She really tried hard to belittle China's divers, who late ranks #1 in 
>>>the event. It was said that she (the commentator) has won two silvers in
>>>previous olympics behind Chinese divers. 
>>>
>
>>She is Michelle ???, the silver medalist of last Olympics....
>
>        Michelle Lian (sp?) Williams, who is an awesome babe I must say
>

Let's try it again:

Wendy Lian Williams is the commentator in question.

Let's face it. You can take the homer commentator from home, but you
can't take the homer out of the commmentator. Agreed, she may have been
too strident in her criticism in Fu Mingxha, but she didn't take away
from the fact that Fu was head and shoulders above the rest. 

Also, Williams was a teammate of the two US divers, so it's natural for 
her to be rooting for them.

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com), waiting for the next Charles Barkley
    technical...
From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: Cool Arrow Thing -- NOT!
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:42:09 GMT
Keywords: n



>|> >But, it looked to me like the torch lit up as the flaming arrow passed _over_
>|> >and _beyond_ the torch.  The lighting was repeated several times and it sure 
>|> >looked like the arrow continued past the torch.  Did anyone else
>|> notice this?
>
>. . .
>
>Yeh, but on replay (sunday, they showed a shot from the "REEBOK?"
>blimp, showint the lighting from above;
>on slow-motion, it was clear that the flames went from the cauldron
>to (not from) the arrow.
>
>In my opinion, the arrow Would have lit the flame, but, in fact, it
>didn't.
>

The arrow did light the flame.  It passed throught the fumes of the games, which
is equivalent to lighting a gas stove.  If you don't believe me or the fact that
this is possible, take an aerisol can and pass a match about four or five inches
over the opening.  After applying the bangages from the burn, you will 
understand how it works.  

In short, it worked.  The reason why they didn't want it to land in the dish, is
that it could bounce in the calduron and bounce out into the crowd.  Therefore,
they played it safe and flew the calduron and into the street.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Gattuso
gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com
Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg, Illinois

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From: yrjola@ncse01.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Golf?? and others...
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:48:10 GMT

In article <9221219.24660@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, jyct@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (John Yew Choong THAM) writes:
> Hi,
> 	Just wondering if the prospect of golf becoming a future Olympic
> 	sport is likely?  Has this been discussed in the past?  If they 
> 	can do it for tennis ...
> John.


Well...
As a matter of fact, golf was an official Olympic sport in the first two 
Olympic games in 1896 and 1900. (Boy, was I surprised to hear it.) There have
been some discussions that it will be back as an official sport already in
Atlanta 1996, they say that Atlanta is, after all, a golfers paradise...
Another sport that has a chance to get to Atlanta is Triathlon  (the son of
Juan Antonio Samaranch is a triathlonist :-). 

Others that have been official sports in some Olympic games, but no longer are,
include: Horsepolo, Rugby, Cricket (sp?), Crocket (sp?), Lacrosse, Roque, 
Motorboat racing (1908), Jeu de paume, Rackets, etc...

Mika
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From: nazim@cwis.unomaha.edu (The Unknown)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:21:18 GMT

ahmeda@gtephx.UUCP (Aftab Ahmed) writes:

>In article <1652@hsdndev.UUCP>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul24.151946.14687@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stanm@comm.mot.com writes:
>> >
>> >IMO, Bob Costas may be the best reason to watch NBC coverage. So, don't
>> 
>> I have to agree with Stan a 100%. Costas won't put you to sleep and keep

>I also agree with it about Bob Costas, He seemed to have done a lot of homework
>for the opening ceremony. OTOH Wall Street Journal (07/25/92) did not like his
>trivia about other nations during the parade. But what can you expect from the 
>paper which printed that in Men's field hockey, North Korea defeated Malaysia by 4-1

Are you guys blind or what, Costas is the largest jerk NBC ever hired. 
Open your ears and listen to this jerks and other anouncers of NBC carefully,
than you'll see what's going on, I never saw a bad olimpics coverage like this.
Anyway...

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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: updated event times?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:06:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.145804.14688@wuecl.wustl.edu>, van@seurat.wustl.edu (Van Vo) writes:

|> I doubt that they have much problem with single, unsystematic duplication
|> as long as they get credit.  Once someone makes a posting, it is
|> copyrighted.  However, if given credit, it can be copied, like a
|> newspaper article, for non-profit use.  So please keep us updated
|> from clari for those of us who don't have it.

This, as I recall, is still in the courts. If it was written, it would be
completelly illegal, but as I recall, some people have taken this to court
saying that it is more like speaking.

On another note, I can't find the copyright notices anymore! Is it
possible that the change of ownership of UPI (clarinet's primary
source on the newsgroups that I subscribe to) has changed the
clarinet's contract preventing them from copyrighting the
stuff any more? It was there a few weeks ago (which was
before the ownership change).

Jason W. Solinsky
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:37:12 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Jul24.151946.14687@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stanm@comm.mot.com writes:
>
>IMO, Bob Costas may be the best reason to watch NBC coverage. So, don't

I have to agree with Stan a 100%. Costas won't put you to sleep and keep
reminding you of how great Olga Korbut was in '72 with every second sentence
like Jim 'Zzzzzzz' McKay did on ABC over the years. Costas will move things
around and he's excellent on the ears. Bryant Gumbel who hosted Seoul
in '88 was left behind in NYC and we won't see him for the next two weeks
since Dick 'Oh My' Enberg and Katie Couric will host 3-hour live-morning
coverage(but don't expect to see alot of action in that time slot).
>

-Mark

Oh MY! I can't beleive it!I'm actually saying something positive about a
major network...
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From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Shaved heads/ CANADA RESULT
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:41:00 GMT


Seen from our (I mean Japan's) side, this kind of "victory" is nothing
that is becoming or appealing...

But about the US team ridiculing themselves:

In article <1992Jul28.191006.16884@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> Lei@bnos.csd.bldrdoc.gov writes:
> [UPI reports...]
>>...
>>       ``We've all shaved our heads,'' said 6-foot-7 Bryan Ivie of Manhattan
>>Beach, Calif., who did not play against Japan because of an injury.
>>``This is a form of protest to show our disgust. We want all TV stations
>>to make this public and for there to be a worldwide reaction. This is
>>totally unfair.
>>        ``We feel offended because representatives of 23 countries voted
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>against us. They want us to lose. The change in the result, this defeat,
> ^^^^^^^^^^

Yes, 23-0.  I do believe US had a representative... (abstained?)

Well, in Japan (at least), shaving one's head is an act of expressing
remorse or apology (an olympic wrestling team coach did this when his
boys didn't meet the expectations) ---
hope they'll not be passing the wrong message.

(YH)
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From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Through 11.
Originator: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington IN.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:15:02 GMT


@@@ DJ    07/27
Summer Olympics: Overall Medals Standings

        (THROUGH 11 EVENTS)
COUNTRY       GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
Unified Team     4      0      0     4
China            2      4      0     6
United States    1      1      1     3
Germany          1      0      2     3
France           0      2      1     3
Hungary          1      1      0     2
Bulgaria         1      1      0     2
Australia        1      0      1     2
Sweden           0      1      1     2
South Korea      1      0      0     1
Italy            0      1      0     1
Independent Team (Yugoslavia)
                 0      0      1     1
Finland          0      0      1     1
Netherlands      0      0      1     1
Romania          0      0      1     1
Mongalia         0      0      1     1
From: ttsai@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: How will the baseball medals be determined?
Date: 30 Jul 1992 11:44:45 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

I have been assuming that all games that have been played to this point have
been preliminary games.  Is this true?  If so, how many teams advance to the
medal round, and what is the format of that medal round?

Thanks.

Timothy Tsai
ttsai@uiuc.edu
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From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: US/Japan volleyball protest
Keywords: protest
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:37:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.164759.18863@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>
>time and because he knew it. I should note that as in most sports the refs are
>less likely to give a red card to a player with a yellow than a yellow to
>another player especially when that would end the match. The ref was un-aware of
>this. If he had been, it is unlikely his judgement would have been the same.
>

The practice of treating second foul/card/technical/... in a different way
than the first simply because it has more palpable results is cowardly, unfair
and contrary to the spirit of the rules of any sport. A violation is a viola-
tion and should be treated equally no matter when it occurs.

Sven

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From: cpc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Christian Creveuil)
Subject: Re: French Medals
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:25:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.185552.594@leland.Stanford.EDU> franblan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Francois Marcel Blanc) writes:
>I just saw that France got 3 medals, but I have no clue who got them.
>Anyone knows?
>
>	Francois.

Two medals in cycling: 
  - a bronze medal in the Men 100km Team Time Trial;
  - a silver medal for Jeannie Longo in the Women Individual Road Race.
I don't know for the third one. Perhaps in one of the two shooting finals today?

--Christian
From: bnlee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Beom No Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Where is he from ?
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:16:34 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

Hi,

   Does anybody know where that stupid official in US vs. Japan volleyball
game come from ?  I do not think he is qualified as a referee.
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