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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:40:58 EST
Reply-To:     Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
From:         Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Diplomacy: Russia player needed on .......

>From:         "Michael P. Brininstool" <mikepb@LUPUS.DELL.COM>
>
>What is this, THREE different games where Russia is not doing well, and ALL
>are CD?  Is Russia jinxed?  Do people hate playing it?  I am just learning
>about judge diplomacy and will be ready to start playing in early January
>or I would grab ALL three!

I love Russia. I think it is the best power if you care more about
winning than about other, secondary goals.

Grab one. You'll be performing a great service, and you might teach
these guys a lesson....

Jamie
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From:         Cuneyt Korkmaz <MUH14@TRCUNIV.BITNET>
Subject:      HELP!!!!!

   Can you tell me how can I play that game?
   I signed on mars, what do I do now?

                               Thanks..

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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:36:53 CST
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Aladin

I caught this one at a bargain matinee the other day.
YIPEE!!  What a FUN, FUN, FUN movie.  If you haven't
seen it, you ought to check it out.

Looking for a recommendataion:

My sister is going to be in town next week (read: free
babysitter).  My wife and I are going to the movies, and
I'm debating between _A Few Good Men_, and _Hoffa_.  Any
suggestions?  Hidden gems or sleepers?
(Heck.  Maybe I'll put my money on a sure thing and go
see _Aladin_ again.)

BTW, rented out _Sister Act_ (again, only this time I
got around to watching it).  A pretty enjoyable movie,
nothing that leaves you thinking or amazed but a fun
popcorn movie.


Happy New Year to you all!!

Joe
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:16:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Crying Game and Toys

Rick, you're right about The Crying Game. It wasn't so much that
it started out slow but that it seemed perfunctory. It felt like Neil
Jordan was rushing along so he could get to the real story, the love
story. We don't find out until later how important the first
section is.
From The Crying Game to a crying shame. I hate to agree with the critics
but how else can one respond to Toys, a miscalculation of epic propor-
tions. I read somewhere that Toys was a movie Barry Levinson wanted to
make before Diner. If he had, the movie might have benefitted from a
smaller budget and a vision unspoiled by Hollywood success. Toys, in its
present bloated, cacophonous, undisciplined form makes you wonder what
drew him to this project. Starting with an overproduced opening musical
number that cried out "Whimsy!", the movie plods along from one inert
scene to another. Although the eye-popping visuals, a grab bag of 60's
pot session fascinations, provide some early diversion, it soon becomes
clear that Barry Levinson's string of commercial and critical successes
has ended. The anti war/anti violence message recalls Stanley Kubrick's
Dr. Strangelove and A Clockwork Orange but the execution is more like
an out of control Terry Gilliam as demonstrated in the last 30 minutes
of Brazil(an otherwise brilliant film), and all of The Adventures of
Baron Munchausen. We expect Robin Williams to provide some laughs, and
he does, but he fails to provide us with a character to care about.
Joan Cusack fares better. Unfortunately, there's much too much time
spent on the character of the war-obsessed general who runs the toy
factory. As played by the actor(can't remember his name), he is an
obnoxious, screeching cartoon.                  Rolando
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From:         lkrevit@BITE.DB.UTH.TMC.EDU
Subject:      Re: A Crying Gem by Jordan

Well, after introducing myself as a rare first-run movie-goer, I had
the good fortune to see _The Crying Game_ Saturday night.

Rolando, you are right! Wonderful film, filled with twists and turns
and lots of nail-biting and other exhibitions of anxiety. I, too, will
be discrete and not say too much else except: DO NOT WAIT FOR THIS TO
COME OUT ON VIDEO--strong words for me.

Did Jordan also do _The Miracle_? I have not seen it. How does it compare
to his other work?

Leah
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:44:22 -0500
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: For The Boys

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            30-Dec-1992 03:43pm EST
FROM:  MDESCHUYTENEER
TO:    PAUL BRUCKER                         ( _CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET )

SUBJECT: RE: For The Boys

    The song is "In My Life", from the album "Rubber Soul".

    MICHEL
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Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 15:06:30 CST
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Subject: Re: Frankenstein Unbound

>
>BTW can anyone who read the book explian what was meant by the monster's
>voice saying "You can't kill me, I am unbound"?
>Or the future world they found themselves in and the computer
>that apperantly knew who Buchanan was?
>
>Sean "Doc Syracuse" Farquharson

i saw 'frankenstein unbound' twice, luckily once on the big screen at
a theater in chicago which specializes in getting hard to find/foreign/
animated/experimental films. but, i haven't read the book. here are my
interpretations based on the context of the film:

the meaning of "you can't kill me, i am unbound..." as i understand it:
the time machine which buchanan used had the potential to disrupt the
time/space continuum more and more every time it was used, and thus it
would eventually cause such disruption that anyone using it would begin
to "bleed" into all time frames, thus being unbound in the temporal
(time, not "temporary") sense.
(however, since the novel _frankenstein unbound_ was actually modeled on
_prometheus unbound_ and i haven't read either, i may be totally wrong
if there is some specific meaning of "unbound" in both books. however,
in the context of the film, i think i am right).

the future world was the same planet -- earth -- at some point in time
when the earth's surface was inhabitable (either because of normal plan-
etary changes over time -- becoming an ice planet again -- or because of
some apocalyptic occurance caused by human stupidity). my impression was
that it was a post-apocalyptic earth.

but, if anyone differs with my opinions, i'd like to hear your alternatives.
i really liked 'frankenstein unbound' and thought it stood up under a 2nd
viewing and brought up many complex questions of the morality of scientif-
ic exploration for explorations' sake, and various other philosophical
questions. but then, i am into rather academic film studies; after seeing
'bram stoker's dracula' i got into a very looong discussion with a group
of 4 others, on coppola's artistic references, victorian attitudes on
women/sex, whether or not the film was sexist/feminist, and many other
tangential topics.


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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:25:36 EST
From:         PAUL BRUCKER <BRUCKEPJ@SNYCENVM.BITNET>
Subject:      For The Boys

    At the end of this film a tune by The Beatles is played, does
    anyone remember its name?
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:12:40 EDT
From:         SCHIBERG@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      thanks

Jim Thompson--

I think you are the patron saint of movie goers!!  Thanks for all your info
on film warehouses/clubs/etc., and for keeping R. Ebert on the
straight and narrow (if you'll pardon the pun...)

Susan
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 13:49:36 PDT
From:         DU013@OASIS.CALPOLY.EDU
Subject:      Leap of Faith
              1 Jan 1993 15:24:40 -0600 from <CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET>

From:  Mary Shaffer
       Assistant to the Vice President
       Information Systems
Carol, I really enjoyed this film, too. I thought it was Martin's best work
to date, his most demanding role in terms of emotional range, etc. Some
critics criticized the ending but I thought it fit the movie and the character.
I'd love to discuss in more detail but don't wan't to spoil for others. I
will say that the soundtrack is terrific, both the gospel songs and the score.
I also thought Debra Winger and Liam Neeson were very good in the supporting
cast. A thought-provoking, funny but serious film about faith (despite what
people like Michael Medved and the other fellow on Sneak Previews had to say
-- they despised the film, called it "a bomb" and an attack on religion).
Too bad it's not doing well at the box-office. I think it is Martin's break-
through role, he deserves to be nominated for his performance as much as
Robin Williams did for GOOD MORNING ,VIETNAM. Any other comments?

Thanks,
Mary
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:37:39 CST
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Lawnmower Man/ Article 99

I rented out these two and here are my thoughts:

I don't quite understand why _Lawnmower Man_ caught
so much heat on this list.  I enjoyed it.  Granted,
it's not like it's going to win an Academy Award for
anything (cept maybe some type of special effects or
something), but I thought it moved at a pretty good
clip, wasn't extremely violent, and I found the "look"
of the special effects and all pretty interesting.
In a way it reminded me quite a bit of _Silver Bullit_.
Short, light entertainment.  Again, maybe my easy going
attitude has to do with low expectations and the dollar
rental charge.  I'm sure I would be whistling quite
a different tune at $5.00 a note.

However...

I also rented Article 99 for a buck and a feel quite
comfortable in saying that it was quite lame.
You've got to put your reality check on BIG TIME
hold, and be able to enjoy predictable, one dimension
characters, do predictable, one dimension things, throughout
a predictable one dimension story line.  The good guys
are oh so good, and the bad guys are oh so bad.
Couldn't believe the likes of Ray Liota, Eli Wallach,
Forrest Whitaker, and Keifer Sutherland were in this.
Well, Keifer Sutherland yes, but the rest no.
Matter of fact, the more I think about it, the more
I hate it.  A MASH/Born on the 4th of July wanna be.

Seeya

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:35:44 -0600
From:         CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Frankenstein Unbound

Joe-

I did rent _FU_ from the video store, it is a pretty decent B movie.
It is the first movie that Roger Corman has directed in a long time and
stars John "an alien has popped out of my chest" Hurt.  It is from
Aldriss' classic book by the same name, not too bad of an adaption.

However, I thought that the ending was confusing and that the ending fell
apart.  Yet I understand there was an European(?) version released with
the ending more or less intact, that made more sense.  (Sigh, why do
we Americans get the short end of the stick, when it comes to movie
lenghts)

Carol Doms
Univ of MO-Kansas City
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:21:21 -0500
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Frankenstein Unbound

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            29-Dec-1992 02:48pm EST
FROM:  MDESCHUYTENEER
TO:    CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET                ( _CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET )

SUBJECT: RE: Frankenstein Unbound

    Joe,

    I saw it on Cinemax a while ago, in their "Vanguard Cinema" series, I
    believe. I don't know for sure about different versions as suggested by
    Carol but if there are, I assume that I saw the complete one, since
    Cinemax is usually good about presenting movies in their "original
    version".
    Anyway, what I liked about it was first the original storyline. Roger
    Corman adds original twists with the visitor from the future (another
    fine, if predictable, performance by John Hurt) and the mixing of
    fictional and "real" characters. Mary Shelley and Lord Byron meeting
    Dr. Frankenstein is an appealing concept. (In similar fashion BTW, I
    liked TIME AFTER TIME.) The look of the monster is also quite original.
    Since the acting, photography and special effects are above average, I
    consider it a good movie, be it in the "B" category.

    MICHEL
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:11:57 CST
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Awakenings

I concur with J-man, Awakenings was a very
good, very sad movie.  Another tear jerker, for
me anyway, was Elephant Man, again as the beautiful
woman reaches out to the commonly thought of as
not-so-beautiful.  I wonder if _The Hunchback of
Notre Dame_ was the first to use this motiff?
Any thoughts?

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:41:52 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Toys

Dennis, Siskel and Ebert are indeed dorks, yet I find their opinions to be
of at least partial value, and that when they both slam or praise a movie
in conjunction, that slam or praise tends to reflect the actual value of
the movie, in my experience.

just another dork,
michael mcdonald
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:38:51 EST
From:         mefish <MEFISH@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Ebert guide

 Hi!  I am looking for organizations, clubs, or film coalitions in the
Prividence/Boston area.  I moved here a little less than a year ago from San Fr
ancisco  and I have a couple of projects in mind for this location.  I need to
know how to access the area's talent.  If someone out there can give me some na
mes of organizations I would greatly appreciate it.  Something comparable to th
e Bay Area Video Coalition, or  (for those of you who know San Franciso), the
screening studio on 10th Street. Is there a Society for Women Filmakers or any
organization that has a listing of directors and actors in this area.  Thanks f
or any direction.  You can send e-mail too.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:44:49 -0600
From:         CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Frankenstein Unbound

Michel-

I'm afraid to tell you that Corman, didn't create thorignial story
line for _Frankenstein Unbound_.  It was a novel by Crian W. Aldiss of
the same name and basically the same premise.  Aldiss has also written
another like novel entitled "Dracula Unbound".  I haven't read it yet,
but I assume it is a simular premise to the Frankenstein Unbound story
he wrote.

I do agree it is a good little movie in the "B" category, which are
alot of fun.

Carol Doms
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:55:55 CST
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      A thought

Doncha just hate it when you are going
through your Cinema-L mail, and you get
like four notes from the same person right
in a row.  Why doesn't the guy save you the
time from typing DISCARD, DISCARD, DISCARD and
put it all on one note??

:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

Merry Christmas Mr. Potter!!

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
C444307@MIZZOU1.bitnet

P.S.  Anybody catch _Pod People_ on Friday's MST 3K?
What a scream, I was dying!
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:47:20 EST
From:         PAUL BRUCKER <BRUCKEPJ@SNYCENVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: For The Boys
              30 Dec 1992 15:44:22 -0500 from <MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL>

    Thanks! :-)
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From: ngustas@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Toys
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:45:32 GMT

I saw "Toys" over the weekend.  While I liked it, nay, loved it, I could see
why the reviewers didn't.  I actually had to use my brain at times, and it 
was extremely surreal, almost like pre-Fisher King Gilliam.  I think the
critics didn't like it because they expected to see Robin Williams being 
wacky, and everyone else completely normal and being weirded out by wacky
Robin, and were upset when they got a host of surrealistic, abnormal 
characters, of whom Robin Williams' was probably the _most_ normal.
The visuals were very impressive.
Surprisingly (for me, at least) LL Cool J turned in what I thought was a
fantastic performance.  Someone cast this guy in another movie!!!! And they
never explained why his dad was white and he was black, which I thought was
great and added immensely to the movie.
I liked it but, as I said, I can see why people didn't.  If you want to see
something simple and fun with Robin Williams, go see Aladdin. If you don't
mind thinking, go see this film.
As always,
Your obedient servant,
Gabrielle de Lioncourt 
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From:         "Julian Sominka (CSM)" <jsominka@CSM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: great elevator scenes

> My favorite elevator scene (off screen) is the maybe apocryphal tale of
> Alfred Hitchcock, who was supposed to be in the habit of turning "on" and
> "off" juicy stories of murders when he got into elevators with someone he
> knew.

The one I've heard about Hitchcock was when in a crowded elevator with
a friend, turns to him and says loudly 'I didn't think the old man would
bleed so much'.

--
Julian

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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:30:35 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Brother's Keeper

Rick, you posted on this one . . . could you briefly tell us what it's about?

Thanks,
michael mcdonald
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:57:47 EXP
From:         92415009@KRSNUCC1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Awakenings

Hello. I read your mails. I don't know cinema.
but I read some magazine about movie for plearsure. I read story of awakenings.
very impressive!


Hmmm. Let me introduce to you.
My name is jaejin You. I entered by my friend's password.
I am undergradurate. sophomore.
I major in civil engineering.
I am very interested in COMPUTER, espesially COMMUNICATION by NETWORK.
but I don't know computer very well.
If you are good at it, I want you to teach me.
Good bye!
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:23:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Crying Game

Forgive me for the typo errors, misspellings, omissions. I usually
proofread before sending but I had a rough weekend.
                                                   Thanks,
                                                   Rolando
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:48:27 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Laserdisc player

Jim,

Yes, there is a disc player using two laser pickups.  But it's not available
in the U.S., and may only be in very limited availability/prototype in
Japan.  Its equivalent cost is something like $20,000 (if my memory isn't
inflating it too much!).

Jeff
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