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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:26:00 EST
From:         "W.C. DIVENS" <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Chat: Enhancements

Having read some of the postings about problems with 5.1.x,
specifically about functions which worked in previous versions
and no longer seem operative, one must wonder about the
enhancement ballot process.

Specifically...should the enhancement ballot also contain those
functions which NOTIS users do not want to see DISCONTINUED?

Seems like every recent enhancement has a down side, in that
a new bit of functionality in one area decreases the functionality
in another.

Kind of brings to mind the story about the guy who was having
trouble with his key in the ignition...so he went to the dealer
and said "I want my car modified so that I do not need the
key to start it".  The dealer said "No problem, we can do that"
and when the guy picked up his car, he found the ignition switch
replaced with a toggle switch.  Not exactly the solution he had
in mind.

Is there a way that more feedback can be given so that there is
a 'cost' attached to an enhancement if applicable?

That way folks will avoid getting what they asked for only to
find out that it is not what they wanted.

Please do not interpret this as a flame directed toward NSI.
For every gain, there is usually a loss somewhere else.  It would
just be a real help when considering enhancements to know the
down side of those which we may request...and perhaps give an
opportunity to do some kind of cost/benefit analysis before
the enhacement is implemented.

Just some late-night ramblings...

Rustbelt Bill
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:29:24 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Course reserve stats

Please send any news of such a course reserve stats program to the list
as well. Thanks.

**********************************************************************
KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
Systems Librarian, McPherson Library
UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
(604) 721-8219
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:05:41 EDT
From:         Betty Landesman <BETTY@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Bibliographic software

We have looked into PBS' ProCite for downloading and manipulating records from
NOTIS.  However, it will handle only 3 processing units.  We are part of a
consortium system, and 3 is not enough.  PBS will only change this as
custom programming for us.  At a not trivial cost.

Is there anything ELSE out there that anyone on the list knows of that we
should investigate?  Or does anyone have a solution for the ProCite problem?


Betty Landesman
Coordinator, Systems Planning
Gelman Library
George Washington University
2130 H Street NW
Washington, DC   20052
BITNET: BETTY@GWUVM   Internet: BETTY@GWUVM.GWU.EDU
Phone: 202-994-1333   Fax: 202-994-1340
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:57:38 EST
From:         Robin Wendler <RRKING@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      CHAT-L: NOT AN OFFICIAL NOTIS COMMUNICATION

>Prepare not to alleviate any lost screen data in Release 5.1.

How does one prepare not to alleviate something?
Who writes this stuff?

Robin Wendler
Harvard U.
rrking@harvarda
etc.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:26:00 EST
From:         "W.C. DIVENS" <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Chat: Enhancements

>From: "Michael J. Stephens" <VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET>

>What we are really faced with each time we get a new release, even a "fix-
>it" release, is that each change from the previous release increases the


Michael...I see you standing on the bridge of the ENTERPRISE holding
a few DiLithium crystals from the EXCELSIOR's engines saying:
"Aye Cap'n...the more complicated they make th' plumbin', the easier
it is to stop up the drain".

Rrrrrustbelt Bill
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:23:38 EDT
From:         Frederick Martz <FMARTZ@YALEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      5.0 Call Number Index

We are in the process of moving from release 4.6 to 5.0.2.  The new browsable
call number index in the OPAC is a major improvement over the old staff
version.  When will the new features be implemented in staff mode?  I am
convinced that at one time the improved call number index for staff was part
of this release.  The only difference was supposed to be that the public
display included the title and the staff display did not.  Now that I see it
in 5.0.2, however, the staff call number search behaves just as it always did.

In addition, I seem to recall that the plus sign (signifying oversize) was to
be ignored in the new index so that oversize LC call numbers would no longer
be thrown out into the "CO" portion of the index.  I see no change here
either.

Will these features be in 5.1?  Did the plans for the call number index
change along the way?  Or do we have some local problem with our call number
index?  Thanks for any enlightenment you can provide.

Frederick Martz
Head, Database Management
Yale University Library
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:25:18 +1200
From:         LBR_CIW@AUKUNI.AC.NZ
Subject:      Cat/Auth SIG ballots

To Margaret Rohdy
My apologies for sending this out over Notis-l, but I have no e-mail
address or fax no for you. For obvious reasons I can't attend most SIG
meetings, so we may not be on any mailing list, but we would like to
see the Cat/Auth enhncement ballots please. I would really appreciate it
if you could e-mail or fax me the ballot - mail can take 10 days or more
to get here if you're unlucky. Thanks!

Chris Wilson Lib1
University of Auckland
New Zealand
LBR_CIW@AUKUNI.AC.NZ
Fax:649 373 7401
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:09:09 EDT
From:         Donna Alsbury <FCLDDA@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Enhancement Process

This response applies to the Serials SIG only.  I assume that the reason
for any confusion lies in the fact that each SIG is free to determine how
they will compile the list of enhancement suggestions to be forwarded to
NSI.

The Serials Enhancement Ballot was posted on NOTISACQ prior to ALA. Paper
copies were mailed to all SIG members who had not listed an Email address
on the membership list circulated at each SIG meetings. BALLOTS ARE DUE
NEXT MONDAY (7/27). Any SIG member may vote but the final tally will be
based on one vote per site. If more than one ballot is received from a site,
each vote will count as a percentage of the total. Again, this may not be
ideal but does allow all interested parties to participate in the process.

Repeat: Serials ballots should be E-mailed or Faxed to me by 7/27. (I guess
snail mail is o.k. if it goes out by tomorrow).

Donna Alsbury                          (904)392-9185                FAX
Co-Chair, Serials SIG                  FCLDDA@NERVM                 BITNET
Florida Center for Library Automation  FCLDDA@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU   Internet
2002 NW 13th St., Suite 320
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:17:00 EDT
From:         TAYLOR@WILLIAMA.BITNET
Subject:      Compressed screens on IBM PS/2s
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              ia-frs@marist.BITNET, focus-l@asuacad.BITNET

We are looking for a way to have our IBM PS/2 Model 55SXs compress the
screen into 132 characters to view wide reports when serving as a
terminal emulator for the VAX.  We are on a Pathworks network connected
to a VAX 4300 cluster.   We use the Pathworks terminal emulator SETHOST.

We need a VGA video board that will operate with the microchannel bus found in
the IBM PS/2s.   We know that Paradise VGA boards work with IBM XTs and ATs and
with clones that use an AT bus.  These will not work for us.   We've been
searching for almost a year, but to no avail.

Is anyone out there able to get 132 character compression on IBM PS/2
Model 55SXs?  If so, please let me know what you are using.

Thanks very much!

Dinny Taylor

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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:42:14 CDT
From:         Kevin <KK1@NUACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TRANSFER CREDITS
              29 Jul 1992 11:07:52 -0300 from <MCONNOLL@ADM.DAL.CA>

Northwestern University is also looking at designing a transfer credit
system for transcript and degree audit and would appreciate your comments
also.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:55:34 -0400
From:         Trudy Sykes <sykes@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: TRANSFER CREDITS
X-To:         "CUMREC-L Administrative computer use" <CUMREC-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

We at McMaster have collect and use transfer credits. We print them on our
 offers of admission and use them in our degree audit system.

Transfer credits can be put into system through batch and online
procedures. People making decisions on transfer credits can either assign
a McMaster course number or a general course by using masking for the part
of the course which in undecided. For example 6 units of English level 1
would be entered as English 1* as opposed to English 1A06 if the course
was equivalent to 1A06.

Degree audit will not used a masked course to satistify an exact course
requirement. English 1* would not satisfy a requirement requesting English
1A06 specificly but would satisfy a requirement asking for 6 units of
level 1 English.

Transfer credits are identified with a T on the degree audit report.

This is just a brief note to give you an idea of what we are doing.  Let
me know if you want more information.


Trudy Sykes, Systems Analyst, CIS
GH 217C, McMaster University, Ext 4876 (416-525-9140)
email: sykes@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca


On Wed, 29 Jul 1992, MICHELLE CONNOLLY wrote:

> Hello,
>          Dalhousie University is currently assessing requirements
> for a Transfer Credit Equivalency System.  The system will serve
> as a key tool in both the Admissions and Degree Audit areas.
>
>          We are having some trouble "wrestling" with the possibilities
> and would be grateful to anyone wishing to share their experiences.
> (either positive or negative)
>
>          Thanks in advance.
>
>                                                Michelle Connolly
>                                                Dalhousie University
>                                                MCONNOLL@ADM.DAL.CA
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:43:02 PDT
From:         Richard Everman <reverman@KA.REG.UCI.EDU>
Subject:      Informix
X-To:         CUMREC-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Our campus decided to use Informix w/Wingz for administrative systems.

Could some kind person help me out on the following questions?  We are
developing/runnning the software on a SPARCstation 2.

  Are there (relatively) inexpensive tools for Informix?  I have gone
      through the InSync booklet.  Examples of tools we are looking for are:
      GUI, screen painter, a good forms designer (I evaluated IFORM)
      a good 4thGL, an SQL statement generator for end users, a data dictionary,
      repository, or any other tools that you have found helpful.)
  Is 4.0 representative of the quality of Informix's software?
  Is there a ListServ for Informix?
  Are there existing student related systems available in Informix?  (Master
    Course file, Students' A/R, Classroom/Facilities scheduler, etc.)

Thank you,



Richard Everman
Associate Registrar
215 Adm Bldg
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717  USA

(714) 856-7901          (voice)
(714) 856-7896          (fax)
reverman@ka.reg.uci.edu (email)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:17:16 EDT
From:         Pete Kearney <Z1@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Federal cash draw

We are looking for feedback on software or methods for estimating federal
cash draw.  For example, projecting the next three days requirement based
on examining last months high, low, and average federal expenditures.
(Hopefully, something that has worked for you, not just theory).

Thanks in advance.

Pete Kearney (Z1@NERVM.BITNET)
Coordinator of Computer Applications
University of Florida
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:51:05 CDT
From:         Carol Hartley Allie <CALLIE@UAFSYSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TRANSFER CREDITS
              29 Jul 1992 11:07:52 -0300 from <MCONNOLL@ADM.DAL.CA>

You may want to contact Jack Wielenga at the University of Northern Iowa.
They have an excellent system of tracking transfer credits and building
this information into a degree audit system.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:00:13 -0400
From:         Doug Gowland <gowland@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: PC Software
X-To:         "CUMREC-L Administrative computer use" <CUMREC-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Wanting vendor support and also wanting source code to "customize as
needed" strikes me as conflicting desires.


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**   D. M. (Doug) Gowland          ***   gowland@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca   **
**   Director, CIS.                ***   TEL:  (416) 525-9140  x4544      **
**   McMaster University           ***   FAX:  (416) 528-3773             **
**   Hamilton, Canada  L8S 4M1     ***                                    **
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On Tue, 21 Jul 1992, Pete Kearney wrote:

> We are looking for a PC based product to handle publications point of
> sale at multiple locations on a LAN.  I would like to hear about any
> point of sale product you might have actual experience with.  What we
> need is the ability to purchase the source code for the product, and
> have good vendor tech support so that our staff can customize as
> needed.
>
> Thanks in advance for any feedback.
>
> Pete Kearney (Z1@NERVM.BITNET)
> Coordinator of Computer Applications
> University of Florida
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:04:44 EST
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From:         SBERENBA@POLYVM.BITNET
Subject:      NO SUBJECT

From:  Steven B. Berenback
*** Resending note of 07/30/92 09:16
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:17:17 EST
From:                      <SBERENBA@POLYVM>
To:   cumrec-l

From:  Steven B. Berenback
This request for information is directed exclusively to users of
SCT's ISIS product.  (I know others can also contribute useful information but
on this first pass, I prefer to talk to ISIS users only.)

I would like to talk to you if you permit student access to ISIS information in
any way whatsoever, except for telephone registration which I am not interested
in right now.  Primarily, I have in mind on-line access through CRT's but do
not want to limit the discussion prematurely.  The customer service rep at
SCT tells me that no one they know of is doing this, but it is my guess that
they are only aware of current TCP participants and have not kept up with
the work of ISIS users who have dropped off of the maintenance agreements
and the Technical Currency Program.  I am interested in any ISIS user,
regardless of version or technical currency.  I am more than happy to call you
if you would be willing to talk with me for a few minutes.  Send me e-mail with
your phone.  Thanks in advance.

Steve Berenback, Registrar     VOICE: (718) 260-3811
Polytechnic University         FAX:   (718) 260-3136
333 Jay Street                 BITNET: sberenba@polyvm
Brooklyn, New York 11201      INTERNET: sberenba at vm.poly.edu
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:51:23 EDT
From:         Jeffrey R Kell <JEFF@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TRANSFER CREDITS
              29 Jul 1992 11:07:52 -0300 from <MCONNOLL@ADM.DAL.CA>

We had a system similar to this several years back (currently abandoned) that
was setup to send counselors to feeder schools (2-yr) to allow their course
work to be entered "as is", equated to our courses, and fed into the degree
audit system to see how they would stand.  We currently have a system under
design to generalize transfer equivalency based on the same basic rules.

Our biggest stumbling block was in converting dissimilar credit units.  The
actual semester hour calculations from other "bases" is simple enough, but the
Records Office has a long history of unwritten, semi-ambiguous rules for making
equivalences when dealing with course sequences.  For example:

* A three-quarter English comp sequence might equate to our 2-semester one.
  Under normal conditions the first two would be grouped together and equated
  to the first semester, and the last equated to the second semester.

* If the student did poorly in the middle quarter, and likely to repeat the
  course, it would be grouped with the last rather than the first; likewise
  if the student did poorly in only the first quarter (though less common).

* If the student "missed" a quarter, or lacks the final quarter, there are
  several combinations possible.

We essentially built a "front-end" which handled course sequences separately.
There were 2-3 "rule sets" for different types of sequences possible.  All of
the sequences were processed and removed first, and the remaining unprocessed
credit fed to a straightforward unit equivalency/credit base conversion system.

In summary, if you are in the market for a "canned" application to do your
equivalencies, be sure it includes some powerful, flexible means of handling
course sequences.  Direct translations are trivial; sequence processing can be
extremely cumbersome depending on your institutional policies of equivalence.

<Jeff>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:47:46 -0400
From:         Reina Tebby <DASRDT@UWOCC1.UWO.CA>
Subject:      Software to maintain Sales/Registration Office
X-To:         CUMREC-L <CUMREC-L@NDSUVM1.uwo.ca>

Our Sports and Recreation Department is looking for software that will:

maintain athletic card memberships
maintain swimming registrations
maintain football subscription list
produce football game reports
produce daily and monthly sales reports
produce name and address labels
and maybe even maintain the payroll for the locker room staff

The office handles all the sales and maintains all the files for these
functions.

Does anyone have anything in place that does all this?  If so, is it Commercial
software or did you write it?  Any suggestions?

Thanks for any info ...

Reina Tebby
Information Centre
University of Western Ontario
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:01:00 CST
From:         demossc@CCMAIL.WIU.BGU.EDU
Subject:      Transfer courses

          Michelle,

          Miami University in Ohio has a degree audit system on the
          market, called DARS.  As an enhancement to that system,
          Miami is adding a transfer articulation module in the next
          few months.  I understand it is in beta now.

          The contact person, and author of DARS, is Jack Southard,
          SOUTHARD@MIAMIU.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:07:52 -0300
From:         MICHELLE CONNOLLY <MCONNOLL@ADM.DAL.CA>
Subject:      TRANSFER CREDITS

Hello,
         Dalhousie University is currently assessing requirements
for a Transfer Credit Equivalency System.  The system will serve
as a key tool in both the Admissions and Degree Audit areas.

         We are having some trouble "wrestling" with the possibilities
and would be grateful to anyone wishing to share their experiences.
(either positive or negative)

         Thanks in advance.

                                               Michelle Connolly
                                               Dalhousie University
                                               MCONNOLL@ADM.DAL.CA
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:35:30 CDT
From:         CSWMW@ECNUXA.BITNET
Subject:      Access to student records
X-cc:         Bill Witsman <cswmw@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>

EIU will soon implement a new online transcript system and then
begin work on a degree audit system. Our campus currently has installed over
1,000 terminals (coax) and PC's (on a token ring lan) which give access to
administrative, academic, and faculty offices. We are currently trying to
put together a better policy on the access of student records by
administrative staff and faculty. I would like to review policies and/or
statements of release of information which others have found to work.

Any assistance or leads would be much appreciated.

                   IBM 9121-260  MVS/ESA 4.2.0  CICS 2.1.2

                                Bill Witsman
             Director Information Systems and Technical Support
                   Computer and Telecommunication Services
                         Eastern Illinois University
                            Charleston, Il 61920
                                217-581-3227
                       Internet: cswmw@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
                           Bitnet:   cswmw@ecnuxa
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