From: silly123@milton.u.washington.edu (Celia Nilson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Caucasians don't understand
Date: 16 Aug 92 10:36:03 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


>>	   [Robert's assertion that white people cannot fully understand
>>	    the Asian-American experience deleted.]
>>   >
>>
>>Even in foreign countries, white foreigners are often treated very well,
>
>How would you know??  Making claims about how whites are treated in
>foreign countries is the same as whites making comments about how
>asians are treated in the US, isn't it??? :-)
>
>>because they are automatically assumed to have some sort of power, whether
>>it is economic, diplomatic, military, or just some magical power emanating
>>from their skin that causes them to be some sort of super-human.
>
>Where did you ever get this idea?  Maybe in tourist areas it might be the
>case, as long as you have lots of money, but outside of the tourist areas
>you get no special treatment.  There are lots of times that I would like
>to have that sort of power, maybe I'm just not white enough, or Canada
>doesn't count!
K
	Hmmm....I guess what he is talking about some modern countries...
like HongKong, Japan, Thailand.........
I was born in hongkong and i have been traveling around asia...so i do
think that "White" does have some special considerations if they are in
most of the Asia Countries.  (Of Course...i wouldnt say all...)

>
>I spend about 15% of my time *working* in China.  Note this is not the
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NOt offened....I have lived in Hong Kong for 17 years and also traveling
around (well...just like you say...this is not same as travel viistiing..
actually i was travelling b/c my job)  15%...????


>same as travelling, for two reasons.  First, there's no retreating to
>the foreign hotel.  You have to be productive in the same environment as
>the rest of the people.  Second, even though I come home to Canada, I
>also know I will be going back to China.
>
>There is a major difference between racism in North America and China.
>In North America the racism is more subtle, while in China its blatant.
>In some parts of China, a white person walking on the streets alone
>can count on some type of physical attack on a regular basis.  Several
>times in a dining hall I've not been served while all the chinese sitting
>around have been served.  As far as the waiters were concerned I didn't
>belong in China so I wasn't going to be fed.  With this type of racism
>you know exactly where its coming from, and where you stand. With the
>subtle forms its much harder to tell who your friends really are.


	Hmmmm....are u tell the group that you didnt get the service b.c
you are white???  I havent have this kind of trouble before!!!  #1 method
to aviod that kind of trouble is that always keep a Big Smile on your face!!
	
>
>The main point that I'm trying to make is that many groups experience
>racism, and each group tends to experience it in a different way.  You
>can argue whether one form of racism is worse than another, but in the
>end its still racism of some form or another.  So I don't experience
>racism the same way that you do, but that doesn't mean I don't experience
>it.  You have the same rights to comment on my experiences of racism as
>I do to comment on yours.
>

	Well, I do agree truely about your point!

However, you was telliing me that the story about SOME PART at CHINA (Should I 
consider that as whole china or even whole Asia...:) 

Come On, everyone know that there is racism in this world and i guess they are
just trying to point out a specific topic of racism.

Please...I would like to hear more about (racism) on education, Job opportunity, Job promotion, greneral services......

Celia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american