From: detchay@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (TONY CHAY)
Subject: Re: ******* ASIANS FACE RACE BIAS -an aussie reply-
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:07:50 GMT

In article <2685@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (James Lam) writes:
>From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (James Lam)
>Subject: Re: ******* ASIANS FACE RACE BIAS --- STUDENT ********
>Date: 10 Jul 92 11:02:53 GMT

>In article <9219220.325@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, kaic@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (David Chan) writes:
>|> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (James Lam) writes:
>|> >kaic@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (David Chan) writes:
>|> >

        Lets talk Tango people,  I'm an Australian, from the country.  In 
the City I being ingnorant of public transport, etc.  have also been 
targeted for being ignorant, It's a power game people play, when they know 
your in a weak and vulnerable position then they'll make themselves feel 
good by exercising their power to make you feel shit.  Don't go labelling 
Australian's racist because you get hassled sometimes in these situations.  
Sure some Aussies may think you're all sub-human, buy most don't.  Alot ill 
feeling towards overseas students stems from the following:-

	1.  Asians often stick to themselves, most don't mix with the 
average Aussie student.  

	2.  I get ranckled when I am in an elevator and a group of Asians 
talk in their own language.  

	3.  Often the only clubs they join at university are Malaysian Law 
Students, Hong Kong students, etc ,  So further segregating themselves, don'
t blame the Aussies for getting pissed off at your almost secretive and 
seperatist behaviour.

	4.  I have witnessed and been involved in many situations where 
Asians have made it quite clear that all Australians are just Beer swilling 
non-serious students who are basically dumb.  Here is the Yellow superiorty 
making the Aussies angry that you come over here and knock us and our 
culture and our differing work ethic.
  
      5.  With THousands of Australian students missing places at 
universities across australia, and maybe some here not doing the course they 
really wanted to.  Isn't it understandable that when they see so many Asian 
students taking up places at university ( and they dont frankly give a 
bloody stuff about the financial aspects of O/s Students) they'll feel 
cheated and resentful.


	Please note that the above points are not exclusive to Asians 
students nor does it apply to all asian students.  But from my 2 years at 
Uni it seems to be a fairly widespread trend.  

		A final word on a part of miss Mioa's article.  She talked 
about how the lecturers treat Asians as sub-human etc, etc.   Let me just 
say that most lecturers think of all undergraduates as not worth talking 
too, they really don't care about us.  Asian or Aussie to the university 
and her staff (with a few exceptions) we are all just numbers, files and 
thats it.  It is impersonal and you will (as I have) get the brush off from 
lecturers who view undergraduates as having nothing worthy to say to them. 
Please don't go around sprouting shit cliches about Aussie racism, were all 
in the same boat.  Sure you probably do get discriminated against sometimes 
but so do women, non-private school students, etc.  Youv'e got to just say 
to yourself "well they can all bugger off" and just get on with life, your 
studies.  Get you degree make a packet and then screw everyone for every 
dollar they're worth.

		Yours Sincerely 
                              Tony (stone the crows) Chay - note Chay is not 
Asian in origin, it is from Some jewish people 
in Iberia who migrated to ireland and 
converted to catholicism etc.  

				 





 
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