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From: bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor)
Subject: Re: C/C++ 7.0 idiotic linking problem (the shame!)
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:01:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.212657.4692@anasazi.com> gaf@misty.anasazi.com (Guy Finney) writes:
>
>Okay, so I haven't done any C development on DOS for some years.  My job is
>to write C on Unix, and I only recently got the bug for doing Windows
>development at home.
>
>So I got me the shiny new C/C++ 7.0, installed it per the instructions,
>and now find I can't link the simplest program (hello.c):
>
>	#include <stdio.h>
>	main() {
>		printf("Hello world\n");
>	}
>
>I compile it with the following command.  Yes, I want the large model.
>
>	cl /AL /c hello.c
>
>Fine, it compiles into hello.obj.  But when I try to link it into hello.exe,
>I get the message "Invalid object module" in reference to hello.obj.
>Not even one of the Lnnnn message numbers to look up.  Hmmphh.
>
>Geez, I'm not a total idiot, but what the heck is this all about?  Am I
>missing some secret option to the linker, compiler, or what?  Why isn't
>this just as straightforward as it should be?  Any help will be appreciated,
>as this is going to be an expensive doorstop without the ability to link
>object modules together into a single executable.
>-- 


You probably have another linker (LINK.EXE) file on your PATH
other then the linker supplied with the package. Find it and
get rid of it.


Dov
From: mcastle@cs.umr.edu (Michael R Castle)
Subject: Re: .com and .exe files
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:43:20 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO

In article <C1HtvM.Eun@world.std.com> mikep@world.std.com (Michael Podanoffsky) writes:
>
>Both .com and .exe files can be loaded anywhere.
>
>A .com file contains no segments whatsoever.  All data, code and stack share
>the same 64k segment.
>
>An .exe file contains segments and can exceed 64k.  Only .exe files are really
>rommable should this ever be needed.  One major side effect is that different
>code segments may be produced.
>
>.com files are an exact byte image of the program in memory without any
>relocation information.  That means all references are near.

Question:  Can't com files use more than 64k?  Once the program is going,
you can pretty much do what ever you want with the segment registers, and
request more memory, and access the full 640 k.  I seem to remember a while
back that someone wrote a program (forth interpreter, if I remember 
correctly) that is a .com file, but isn't limited by 64k.

mrc
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From: Jon Freivald <jaf@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Local vs Net drive. How Tell ?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:32:20 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

ceharris@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Carl Harris) writes:

> To check every drive in the system, start with drive A and check every drive
> until the 'invalid drive' condition is returned.

NO!NO!NO!  I've got 180 systems on my network & this would FAIL on all
but one of them!!!!!  Standard configuration:
        c:  local
        d:  local
        h:  net
        i:  net
        j:  net (about 1/2 the systems)
        z:  net

we also have a couple with s:, t:, u: & v: being CD-ROM's.  Only ONE
machine has a physical c: -> g: -- even then, you'd miss z:!

To REALLY check every drive in the system, you've got to check a:
through z:, ignoring any invalid drive conditions!

Jon

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From: mariusk@Lise.Unit.NO (Marius Kjeldahl)
Subject: Multi OS configuration with two harddisks?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:29:33 GMT

I've recently installed my new development system. It consist of a 486, with two harddisks,
C: and D:. The C harddisk is configured with one partionion (DOS) and this partion is almost 
full. The second harddisk (D:) I am planning to use as a test drive, to look at things 
like OS/2, Linux, NT, NS486 and so on. 

Is there anyway I could use the D: drive as I wish and boot directly from it (without installing
multiple boot programs on C: - which usually requires repartitioning drive C, and therefore I
would need to backup 400MB++ onto floppies..)?



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From: kraai4712@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Batch files
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:28:45 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1993Jan25.134613.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, PC Software Consultant, CSC, UoC, NZ) writes:
> Believe it or not, EDLIN (that most ghastly of DOS "utilities") may be
> the answer to your problem.  Its (sole ?) virtue lies in the fact that
> it reads from stdin, so can be driven by a script file.
> 
> I've never used it in this manner (I've never used full stop, he adds
> proudly  8-) ), but have seen some fiendishly clever batches in PC Mag
> based (in part) on this.

I have.  If an expository is generally desired, I'll post.  Let me know.

--jim
From: scorpion@phoenix.oulu.fi (Antti Kangas)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: .com and .exe files
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:19:21 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Frank E. Prince (fprince@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote:
: Could anyone tell me the difference between .com and .exe files. The
: most I've come up with is that a com file is an "executable memory image"
: but that definition was somewhat out of context, and I don't really
: understand it. I've done some assembly language programming with MASM so
: I do understand instruction sets, stacks, registers etc. Any information
: regarding this is much appreciated.
: 			Thanks,
: 				Frank
Well ,I'm not the expert with this area ,but I know the following things:
First, the .EXE file can be located anywhere in the memory space ,whereas
COM cannot.
Secondly, .EXE files allows four segments: STACK,DATA,CODE and EXTRA
which results in a more modular program.
The disadvantage of .EXE files is that the linker has to add extra code
that the program can be freely located in the memory.
COM can only contain one segment that includes the STACK, DATA and CODE
segments.
--> So, if your program is quite small ,a .COM file is preferable ,because
it's shorter and vice versa.

Hope this makes sense and clear the thing up a bit.

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From: lmcansi@noah.ericsson.se (Andrew Silver)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: gas tank cleaning
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:19:01 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <!6g32wa@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
>I've got an old '74 Skiroule RTX447 that I'm trying to bring
>back to life. It hasn't been run in about 4 years, and I need
>to clean the plastic gas tank. I can get it out of the sled,
>but I don't know what to use on it.
>
>Any suggestions???
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>J.R. Ordon
>
>"I'm not here for a long time, just a good time"

I did the same thing this year with a `71 Elan.  All I did was
spray grease-remover on the outside, wait 10 minutes, then spray off with water (it was reaaaaaly greasy).  Then for the inside,
I just flushed it with fresh gas several times while cleaning it
with an old toilet bowl brush that I straightened out.

After making sure there was no "debris" left, I reinstalled it.
Haven't had a problem.  However, there is a stain at the bottom
where the old gas had been sitting, and it's still there.  No
problems, though.
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From: don@tellabs.com (Donald Leonard)
Subject: Re: Collett Comunicators
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:32:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.002230.10973@rose.com> rob.twilt@rose.com (rob twilt) writes:
> Hi Don...Our lake is a half a mile long.  We had no problem clearly
> communicating across it.  In the instruction manual it states in very
> large letters that resistor spark plugs are necessary. The manual goes
> on to say that non resistive spark plugs can easily reduce the range
> from 1/2 mile down to a mere 50 to 100 feet.  Also O.E.M. or equivilent
> spark plug wires must be used. (resistive ignition wires are carbon
> core) I use the NGK BR9ES rather than the B9ES plugs.  They're only 50
> cents more per plug.
> I agree with you that hand signals should still be used to convey
> information to oncoming riders about sleds behind you.
>
>                         Rob
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I looked for a place that sold them but most people just carry the
B9ES. Next trip with him (about 3 weeks) I'll have to try them.

don
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From: don@tellabs.com (Donald Leonard)
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Keywords: Why not?
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:36:51 GMT

In article <richmond.728003746@ee.ualberta.ca> richmond@ee.ualberta.ca (Richmond Raymond C) writes:
>	Is there nothing in this group on the greatest machines on
>   earth?  After owning first the Phazer then PhazerII I am convinced of 
>   the almost perfect all round capabilities of them.  But don't get me wrong,
>   there are lots of good machines out there Yamaha did good with the Enticer 
>   and SS line, as well Arctic cat had some good machines
>   (although heavy as a whale) ,and have you ever driven a John    
>   deer Trail fire/blazer series? In closing I guess my point is that if 
>   I hear about any more polarises(too big and too slow) or Indys I think
>   I will be sick.

Well if you cant beat em' join em' :-)

I use to own a Yamaha V-Max and SRV. I could talk about them if
someone had a question. I've only ridden a phazer for a short
distance once so I don't have much to say about it.

don
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From: don@tellabs.com (Donald Leonard)
Subject: Re: A newcomer needs advice
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:39:37 GMT

In article <Jan20.185733.44337@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> brianb@lamar.ColoState.EDU () writes:
>Stuff deleated
>
>In the mean time heres my question-
>Going through the local paper to day I stumbled onto an ad for a 72 
>Skidoo 340 in good condition for $200/obo. This is the exact wording in
>the ad, so for now this is all I know. 
>So what I want to know is, would I be crazy spending money on a sled
>like this?
>
Seems like a good price but it depends upon what is wrong with
it. If it really is in good condition then you should have no
problem getting your money back later. Maybe even more than what
you paid if you sold it at the right time. Just be careful how much
you put into it.

>I plan on going to look at it tonight and would like some advice what to
>look for to insure that I am not getting into more than I can handle
>mechanically. When I was younger I spent alot of time working on cars so
>I am somewhat handy with tools and engines.
Cars and sleds don't have much in common other than basic
mechanical design. Your experiance should provide you with knowlege
in the proper and sometimes creative :-) use of tools. 

>If anything, I could see this as good experience. To be able to work on a 
>machine thats not to expensive in case I really screw something up.
>It could>also satisfy (temporarily) my want and need to get more into
>this sport.
>To summerize:
>1) Is this sled worth the time and money?
If you've got the time and some extra money, I would think the
knowlege and mechanical experiance alone would justify the purchase. 
You'll also have something to ride in the meantime. 
I think there is a sense of personal satisfaction and pride to be
able to wrench ones own sled (insert other toys here). To say that
you've repaired this or added that, can be very satisfying. This
is something that simply cannot be purchased.

>2) What should I look for, such as possible expensive problems?
Assuming your going to do your own work, I would think the
following:
Track, clutches and drive train, engine work, suspension.

>3) Will this be a difficult machine to work on?
Doubt it since machines that I've seen from that era tend to be
very simple. I would invest in a ski-doo shop manual... if you can
get one. If not then a couple of books on 2-cycle theory, clutching
and gearing and maybe carburation.
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Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Keywords: Why not?
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

In article <1k45dmINN95j@meaddata.meaddata.com> dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter) writes:
>etc.  Who knows, maybe we'd even have a flame-fest or two! ;-)

Not a chance, wouldn't want to melt any of the snow.  Have to wait until
summer for any flames.:-)

Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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From: rob.twilt@rose.com (rob twilt)
Subject: Help Guys!!
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:34:27 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-27-93 20:29
I've got the "If it's not one it's the other syndrome".  The XLT special
is running great but I'm having a problem with the old Arctic Cat that I
can't seem to nail.  The sled is a 1981 El tigre 5000.  This is a 500cc
twin free air.  The problem seems to happen while trail riding at slow
to moderate speeds.  I lose power (bogs).  With the trottle pinned the
track won't even turn.  I can't give RPM because the sled isn't equipped
with one.  When this situation occurs there is always a air bubble in
the line between the gas tank and the fuel filter.  I disconnect the
hose at the filter and blow air back into the tank.  The fuel will then
start pouring out of the line as I reconnect it to the filter.  I have
cleaned out the gas tank. Replaced all the fuel lines and installed new
hose clamps at all connections.  The only thing I can think of is
perhaps replacing the diaphrams in the fuel pump.  I haven't taken it
apart to look yet. Does this sound feasible?  Any ideas?
    I should mention that after blowing back into the tank and
reconnecting the hose the sled will run great for another 5 miles until
the same problem occurs.

                             Rob

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From: chuck@col.hp.com (Chuck Rice)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:35:42 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hplsdqv.col.hp.com

bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield) writes:

I was talking to a parts guy at Jim Dandy Motor Sports about buying a
670 RAVE for my Indy yesterday. He told me about a guy in the Provo area
that has a 670 and a turbo kit on order that he is going to put in an
Indy. Sounds like somebody you might know, Dan?
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:44:33 MST
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

In article <1k66juINNeuj@hp-col.col.hp.com> chuck@col.hp.com (Chuck Rice) writes:
>bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield) writes:
>
>I was talking to a parts guy at Jim Dandy Motor Sports about buying a
>670 RAVE for my Indy yesterday. He told me about a guy in the Provo area
>that has a 670 and a turbo kit on order that he is going to put in an
>Indy. Sounds like somebody you might know, Dan?

Maybe the guys I ride with are tired of running behind the 707:-).  
Actually, I havene't heard anything about a RAVE coming to town.  i will
ask the guys at the dealer next time I am in.

Turbos are getting to be fairly common, atleast as common as the 
Thundercat and more so than the new SkiDoo Z.  A turboed sled is 
definitely an impressive ride.  Most of the turbos I have seen have
been on RXL's.  The fuel injection seems to lend itself to the
turbos better.  No sure why.

Did you hear if the RAVE is for an Indy?  What is the configuration
of the RAVE? 2,3,or 4 cylinder?  Are you serious about getting one
Chuck?

Fun, fun...


Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 09:11:51 MST
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Subject: Re: Help Guys!!
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

Yes, the fuel pump might be suspect, but I would expect it to take
shorter distance than 5 miles to act up.  You might chekc the vacuum
line that drives the pump and make sure it isn't colapsing, pluggewd,
or leaking (jeez my typeing sucks today).  I have had the air bubble
in the gas line thing happen to me, but it didn't affect the way the 
machine ran.

Does the Cat run ok if you stay in the throttle?  Have you pulled a 
plug and looked at it when this happens?  It might be loading up or
even overheating while you cruise along and then after you stop for
a few minutes to fiddle with the fuel line, it cools off enough to
then run again.

Have you done anything to the machine recently such as jumping, hit
a tree, any kind of severe jarring?  You might have a float level 
problem.  Any kind of sever jar can (however remotely) affect the
float levels.  What carbs does it run?  Seems like the old El Tigre
I had used Mukunis.  Adjusting the float is really simple if that is
the case.  You just take the bowl off the bottom of the carb and
sight along the flat surface to which the bowl mates.  The brass float
tangs should be parrallel to this surface.  You can carefully bend the
float valve tang to adjust this level.



Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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From: uwjc@pool.info.sunyit.edu (William Cromp)
Subject: Re: gas tank cleaning
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:18:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.182547.2270@tellab5.tellabs.com> don@tellabs.com (Donald Leonard) writes:
>In article <!6g32wa@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
>I've got an old '74 Skiroule RTX447 that I'm trying to bring
>back to life. It hasn't been run in about 4 years, and I need
>to clean the plastic gas tank. I can get it out of the sled,
>but I don't know what to use on it.
>
>Any suggestions???
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------

Use gas, but also put some small nuts in the tank with it, or some bearings,    then keep shaking it, the nuts or bearings will help to break the sludge off    that is sticking to the walls.

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From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:40:23 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: birch.meaddata.com
Keywords: Why not?

In article <1k45dmINN95j@meaddata.meaddata.com> dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter) writes:
>In article <richmond.728003746@ee.ualberta.ca> richmond@ee.ualberta.ca (Richmond Raymond C) writes:

[good-natured brand-bashing deleted]

>Your choice is the Phaser. Fine, mine (for now) is the EXT Special.  A whole
>slew of others here would choose one version or another of the Indy.  The
>XCR would probably be chosen most.
 ^^^

Oops!  Meant XLT. Sorry.  Although the XCR *is* a great sled!  A bit pricey
for a 440, but one of the top machines nonetheless.

>So tell us why you think the Phaser is the best!

Don't be shy Richmond!  Let us Indy-bigots and Cat-bigots have your best shot!
From: sk@westford.ccur.com (Sheldon Kolansky)
Subject: Snomobile Trip Slide Show
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp.  Westford, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:06:12 GMT


What:	Slide show of "Crossing of a Continent" by snowmobile.  Last year, four
	local snowmobilers traveled by snowmobile from the Pacific Ocean in 
	Alaska to the Atlantic Ocean in New Brunswick by snowmobile.  Total 
	mileage was 10,250 and they set a new world record which was entered 
	into the Guiness Book of World Records.

Where:	Wasserman Park, Naticook Lake Road, Merrimack, NH

When:	Tuesday, January 26, 7 PM.

Why:	For your viewing pleasure.

Cost:  	A $3 donation will cover our expenses with the balance being donated
	to NH Easter Seals.

Other:	Refreshments and numerous door prizes.

Directions:
	Exit 7W off Rt 3
	3.3 Miles - Turn Right by McDonalds
	0.9 Miles - Left - Blue sign "Wasserman Park"
	0.4 Miles - Right - Blue sign "Wasserman Park"
	0.3 Miles - Right - Driveway between two cement posts
From: chuck@col.hp.com (Chuck Rice)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:44:08 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hplsdqv.col.hp.com

bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield) writes:
> >	Is there nothing in this group on the greatest machines on
> >   earth?
> 
> Yes, haven't you been reading all about the Polaris and Arctic Cat machines
> in this newsgroup?

Well said Dan. Are you a diplomat? :-)
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