HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: The Greek authorities deny even the existence of a Turkish minority.
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:35:58 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

In article <9212152115@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
 > In article <1992Dec15.073520.15940@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory  Dandulakis) writes:
 > 
 > >Oh really! What a cheap shot! How many turkish names have been kept? Few,
 > >many or all? As far as Turkish being tought, go to the Turkish schools
 > >in Greece to see how well they learn the language.
 > 
 > Maybe you should develop a "dandy" bomb as your next secret 
 > weapon. ...
This kind of vitriolic outburst do not help the cause you purport to help.
But I think you indeed do not want to help the (unmentionable) cause.
-- 
dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj  amsterdam, nederland
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn  amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nermin  Eren)
Subject: Re: Meclis'te cigkofte-lahmacun partisi
Reply-To: ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nermin  Eren)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:18:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.234936.21707@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.204521.31614@eecs.nwu.edu> toroslu@eecs.nwu.edu (Ismail H. Toroslu) writes:
>>      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>"biyik"lilarin geriligin bir gostergesi oldugunu mu dusunuyorsunuz?
>>
>>Hakki
>
>Ya siz burnun altinda  bir takim killar uzatmanin cok cekici mi oldugunu
>dusunuyorsunuz?  
>
>Esen kalin,
>Deniz Akkus deniz@ctr.columbia.edu
>
>
Sahsen ben oyle dusunuyorum.
Iyi biyikli gunler
Nermin
From: Telat Yanik <tyanik@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: YUZKARASI KAYAYA (fwd)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:41:20 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Forwarded message:
> From tyanik@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Fri Dec 11 17:35:18 1992
> From: Telat Yanik <tyanik@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> Message-Id: <9212112235.AA20902@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> Subject: YUZKARASI KAYAYA
> To: soc.culture, turkish@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:35:15 EST
> Cc: TYANIK@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

          ..... KAYA

 SIMDI SENIN HASTA OLDUGUN BELIRLENDI AMA SEN NE YERSEN YE SENDE
 HERHANGI BIR IYILESME BELIRTISI YOK.SANA HER SEY DEDIK KABUL
 ETTIN SORULARA CEVAP VERMEKTEN KACINDIN. IYICE SAHSIYETININ
 ICINE ETTIRDIN.

 SIMDI SANA HIC ARASTIMA YAPMADAN ILKOKUL TALEBELERININ BILE ANLAYABILECEGI
 BIR DILLE UC SORU SORACAGIM AMAN DIKKAT YANITLAR SORULARIN ICINDE ARASTIRMA
 YAPMANADA GEREK YOK. (BU SEVIYEYE KADAR INIYORUM GENE ANLAMAZSAN
 SANA ESSEK DEMIYECEGIM AMA DAHA GUZEL BIR SEY VAR UMARIM ONU DAHA COK
 SEVECEKSIN)
 1-TURKIYEDE ESKIDEN BERI BESIK KERTMESI DIYE BIR OLAY VARDIR.BUNU
 NASIL KARSILIYORSUN.? CEVABI SORUNUN ICINDE OLDUGU ICIN IYICE
 ACIKLAMIYORUM.BAKALIM SEN NE ANLIYORSUN.
 2-YINE TURKIYEDE SENIN GIBI 404'LERIN BIR MUM SONDU ADETLERI VAR
 BUNUN NE OLDUGUNU BEN BILIYORUM AMA  BUNUN ICERIGI HAKKINDA
 OZELLIKLE HANGI SARTLAR ALTINDA YAPILDIGINI NEDEN YAPILDIGINI(SIMDI BEN YORUM
 YAPARSAM DOGRU OLMAZ SANA AGIR GELEBILIR) KAC YASINDAKI ADAMLARIN BU
 PARTIYE KATILDIGINI VE NE YAPTIKLARINI BIR GUZEL IZAH ET.
 ET KI SENIN ONUN BUNUN COCUGU OLDUGUNU SENIN KENDI AGZINDAN HERKES
 ISITSIN.EGER IZAH EDEMEZSEN BIR SONRA KI ISMINI TAHMIN ETTIN UMARIM.
 3-SENIN AILENDEN BIRISI HASTALANSA (GAYET ACIK ORNEGE GEREK YOK.AILENDEN
 BIRISI DIYORUM.ACIKLIYORUM CUNKU AILE KAVRAMININ NE OLDUGUNU BILEMEYEBILIRSIN
 (IKINCI SORUMDAN DOLAYI) KIVIRIP ODA NEYMIS DIYE SORABILIRSIN.)
 ONU SEVMEKTEN VEYAHUTTA ONU KORUMAKTAN VAZMI GECERSIN? EVET VEYA HAYIR DEMEN
 COK ONEMLI AMAN DIKKATLI OL.
 BU SORULAR SENIN YANDASLARIN ICINDE GECERLIDIR.

 SAYGISIZLARA SAYGILARIMLA DENMEZ
 ADANALI CELAL

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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Continuation on CYPRUS, Palikaria Terrorists and Makarios!
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 18:54:46 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <BzHKy0.AK0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis) writes:

>It has become clear that what your leadership is trying to do is just
>arrive at an agreement which will be legalizing the occupation and 
>division of Cyprus, and at the same time giving even more rights to 
>the Turkish Cypriots.

If only the scientific experts could come up with something to 
get it out of our minds.

In  1960  the  Republic  of  Cyprus  was  founded  with  the
participation  of  Turkish  and   Greek  Cypriots  as  equal
partners. However, Greek Cypriots never wanted independence,
but ENOSIS, or UNION WITH GREECE.

In  April  1963  the  Greek  Cypriots  ignored  the  Supreme
Constitutional Courts of Cyprus  when it ruled against them,
and its  neutral President  resigned. From that  day forward
Greek Cypriots  ATTACKED the  Turkish community  causing the
total  destruction of  103  of their  villages and  numerous
human life.

DEPRIVED of  their rightful  place in  the state,  the Turks
lived in  fear in fortified enclaves  for mutual protection,
squeezed into less than 3% of the island. It was in 1963 and
not in 1974, that Cyprus divided.

Turkey did  not occupy  the island,  but only  INTERVENED to
protect the Turkish Cypriot  community, using its legitimate
right  under  the  Treaty  of Guarantee,  and  to  stop  the
annexation of  the island  to Greece by  a military  coup in
1974, organised by a Greek junta.

Since 1974,  the Turkish  and Greek  Cypriots have  lived IN
PEACE in their respective areas,  no more killings have been
reported. Yet,  the Turkish  Cypriots still offer  a genuine
federation based on Equality and Power Sharing.

Cyprus is not a Greek island, but an island which belongs to
both the  Greek and  Turkish Cypriots.  Yet, the  Greek side
receives all international aid, which benefit entirely their
community,   and  finances   the  unfounded   Greek  Cypriot
Propaganda. The Turkish Cypriots do not trust the Greeks, or
be left to their mercy.

Therefore  the Turkish  Cypriots  are right  to  ask you  to
recognise their  independent state. This is  essential for a
peaceful solution  and for  a peaceful  co-existence between
the two communities.

SUPPORT  THE  PEACE,  RECOGNISE   THE  TURKISH  REPUBLIC  OF
NORTHERN CYPRUS

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Maestro'nun gozu comakta...
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:13:44 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

> not2:Fabrikadan_Halka Aracisiz = Kisi ile Tanri arasindaki iliskide din'in
>      ortadan kalkmasi.
  (fabrika, halk, aracisiz, kisi, Tanri, iliski, din, ortadan-kalkmak)
 
Al sepetten bir "din" formulu daha...
Fakat uzulme...karpuz konusa, konusa buyur...
 
Lan Maestro, bu curuk "din"'ini satacak yer bulamadin da Net'e mi 
dayiyorsun ?
Sen bu Net Ulus'unu akletmez bir kalabalik mi sanirsin ?
Bak ! iki elini iki kulagina gotur ve kulak ver!,
ya da gozunu dort ac, vel-fecri okur gibi oku!
Allah bu "din" kelimesini nasil kullaniyor:
 
basla>-----------------------------------------<
 
would you teach Allah your DIN ?
they take their DIN for pastime and jest
their DIN had (deluded/beguiled) them
their partners make their DIN obscure for them
if you are in doubt of my DIN
 
bitir>-----------------------------------------<
How can you ACCESS TO INTELLECT without a sound LANGUAGE ?
(access, intellect, language)
 
Hadi simdi git biraz da celik-comak oyna Can'im !
Aman dikkat et, gozun comakta kalmasin...
 
Hadi Kal Saglicak-lan Lan !
 
Not: eger siz "din"'i buralarda boyle ulu orta kullanmasaydiniz,
     ben de size bu mesajlari, bu sacmaliklarinizi yikayip, sokup 
     goturecek bicimde sagnak halinde yagdirmazdim....
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: the memory of 2.5 million is not that silent
Date: 14 Dec 1992 09:22:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Arxid) writes:
re: "Schuerzinger" insults the silent memory of 2.5 million Muslim people.

Arxid Bey,

judging from the amount of crap coming out of your account, I do not
find the memory of the '2.5 million' people that silent.

In fact, I have a good reason to believe that they've all risen from 
the dead and started reading and posting news, all using your user-id...

Bah Bah Bah

Spiros
--
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    "Ne mutlu anti-Argic diyene ?
c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                 Ne mutlu anti-Mutlu diyene !"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Christmas bayrami  
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 20 Dec 92 14:41:47 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

> Selam,  
>   
> Christmas bayraminiz mubarek olsun.  
Kirismis bayraminiz...  
Neyi tebrik ediyorsun oglum, deliye hergun bayram...:-)  
> muhabbetlerimle  
mehebbetlerimle  
>   
> Hakan  
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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Televizyonda TR..
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:36:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Asagida Seferoglu arkadasin belirttigi filmi AmerikanIn ba$ka
yorelerinde de ne zaman yayInlanacagini duyurmak isteriz. Bunu
ogrenenleriniz olursa bize bildirin...

Ahmet Toprak



Selam,

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gosterildi.  Bu film WWOR-TV de (New York'ta 9. kanal) Ocak 1993 ayinda
iki kez gosterilecek.  Program, izleyenlerde oldukca guzel izlenimler
biraktiracak bir program.
     Program hakkinda daha fazla bilgi almak veya programi izlemek isteyenler
icin, TV Istasyonu temsilcileri tarafindan dagitildigini sandigim el ilanini
asagiya geciyorum.       Ilgilenenlere duyurulur...

---S. S. Seferoglu


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Marking the 78 anniversary of the Armenian genocide of the Muslims.
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:42:10 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

In article <9212121133@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

>The persecutions culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government (Dashnaks 
>and Hunchaks) planned and carried out a Genocide against its 
>Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks and Kurds were murdered
>and the remainder driven out of their homeland. 

This sure smacks of revisionism to me.  It is well known and thoroughly
documented that the Turks carried out a Genocide against the Armenians.  Why
do people feel compelled to deny that fact, much as Holocaust revisionists
strive to show the mass-murder of jews (among others) never took place?

Yes, I'm an ignorant fool unlike the rest of you.  I simply fail to understand
why it is Armenians and Turks don't get along.

mb
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Kaya ve San ve Seref...
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:40:29 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Hey Kaya !
San ve seref istiyorsan, bilki
san ve seref Allah'indir, Resul'unundur ve muslumanlarindir.

|-| /-\ |-< |-< |||

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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Because, no (*Turk*) left alive in (* x-Soviet Armenia *)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:28:29 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <10344.3248.uupcb@factory.com> michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos)  writes:

>There has to be a way out.... I think my good friend (* Tri* *) tried
>with /* */ style comments and failed. But (* MUTLU *) is written in the

I guess, every absurdity has a "palik" to defend it. "So what do you
do?" ask I. 

  <<In Roman Egypt and Syria there were difficulties caused by the
  long-standing Greek antipathy for Jews. Hellenic authors depicted
  Jews as a contaminated rabble of unclean lepers, whom the Egyptians
  had thrown out of their country in the time of Moses in order to
  purge themselves of defilement. Already at this time the Greeks were
  inventing the blood libel and desecration of host fantasies which
  were to cause so much suffering in later times, affirming that Jews
  sacrificed human beings at the Temple in Jerusalem, using their blood
  for religious rituals. Many Greeks used the destruction of the Temple
  as proof that God hated the Jews and was punishing them for their
  'evil acts'. As a result, even as Rome continued to treat Jews well,
  in the East there were numerous Greek attacks against Jewish settlements.

  After the Edict of Milan (AD 312) began Roman Empire's gradual conversion
  to Christianity (...) the Empire became increasingly intolerant toward
  Jews. The Hellenistic anti-Semitic images of the Jews as a people whom
  God hated were revived. Roman Jews therefore were gradually deprived
  of their rights and made into second-class citizens. They were excluded
  from administrative and military positions. (...) and the masses
  increasingly attacked them in the streets as well as in their homes
  and shops. In 387-388 Christian mobs followed the destruction of all the
  heathen temples in Rome by going on to destroy synagogues as well....>>

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Erbakan in Baku...
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:41:20 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

TURKISH ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST WELFARE PARTY LEADER VISITS BAKU. A
delegation of some 150 Islamic politicians, scholars and
businessmen headed by Professor Necmettin Erbakan, leader of the
Turkish Islamic fundamentalist Welfare Party, has held talks with
Azerbaijani President Abulfaz Elchibey in Baku, ITAR-TASS reported
on 16 December.  Erbakan's party won some 25% of the vote in local
Turkish elections in October, and advocates Turkish military
intervention in Nagorno-Karabakh. Meeting with the delegation,
Elchibey stressed that Azerbaijan will give priority in its foreign
trade to developing ties with Muslim countries.  (Liz Fuller,
RFE/RL, Inc.)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: kg+02@me.unda.edu (Kaya Guralp)
Subject: REMZI CIRIT KACAK OYNAMAYI SEVIYO. ALLAH DA ONU SEVIYO.
Organization: University of Dakota, School of Engineering
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:26:26 GMT


Remzi Cirit bey! Kacma! Ben senden sadece bir tane cumle soylemeni istiyorum.
Senin yaptigin gibi esek yukuyle soru sormuyorum. Zaten bu soru da degil. 
Sadece su asagidaki cumleyi, aynen kendi elinle yazmani rica ediyorum. 

   MUHAMMED AYSE ILE GERDEGE GIRDIGINDE, AYSE 9, MUHAMMED 52 YASINDAYMIS.
   BUHARI VE MUSLIM BU GERCEGI KITAPLARINDA YAZMISLAR. BUHARI ISLAM 
   DUNYASINDA EN SAGLAM KABUL EDILEN HADIS KITABININ YAZARIDIR. 

Bu cumleler benim icin yeterli. Eger bunu yazmazsan bak herkes cok darilacak.
Bilerek yalan soyledigini dusunenler bile olabilir.

saygilarimla
------------
kaya
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Bu Cahil ne diyor ?
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:24:17 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Simdi, bu Kaya'nin "din"'i ile Allah'in "din"'i arasinda uzaktan, yakindan
bir benzerlik goremiyorsek;
Bu Cahil neden bahsediyor ?
Bu Cahil ne demek istiyor ?
Bu Cahil kendi "din"'ini elestirmiyor da neyi elestiriyor ?
Bu Cahil kendi ettigiyle, kendi oynamiyor da ne yapiyor ?
...
Bu Cahil
"Kendim ettim, kendim buldum"
teranesini okumuyor da ne yapiyor ?
 
Bu Cahil net-bandinizi bosuna harcamiyor da ne yapiyor ?
 
 
 
 

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From: tepedeln@zach.fit.edu ( N. Tepedelenlioglu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Guzel Turkcemiz...(!)
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:58:10 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

In article <1992Dec9.040445.65415@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dd09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DOST CAN DENIZ) writes:
>
>Birazcik ta Turkce nasil kullanilir, yazim kurallari, noktalama isaretleri
>nelerdir, o konuda dusunup tasinsaniz... Ne dediginiz zaten anlasilmiyor, bir
>de Turkce'yi katlediyorsunuz (Turk Dil Kurumu polemigine girmeyin, rica
>ederim), iyice arap sacina donuyor is! Insanin "siz ortaokul'da Turkce
>dersinden nasil gecip te buralara geldiniz" diyesi geliyor.
>
Can Deniz'in endisesine ya da isyanina yurekten katiliyorum. Yazarken dikkatli
olmali. Gerekince, supheye dusunce bir kaynaga basvurmali. Calakalem 
yazmamali. Bu "kendine gore yazma" hastaligi icimize o kadar
islemis ki Can Deniz de ayni tuzaga dusuyor. Ornegin, "Arap" sozcugunu
"arap" diye yaziyor. "ortaokul'da" "ortaokulda" olacak. "gecip te"
"gecip de" diye yazilacak. 

Burada amacim kimseyi kucuk dusurmek degil. Yalnizca suna isaret etmek:
Dogru yazmak icin insanin icinde "Acaba bu dogru mu?" diye bir kusku
gelistirmesi gerek. Bu kuskuyu gidermek icin de yaninda kaynak
bulundurmasi gerek. Gidin bolumunuzdeki sekreterin yanina goreceksiniz ki
masanin bir yaninda, mutlaka, iyi bir sozluk, iyi bir yazim kilavuzu, iyi
bir thesaurus var. Kacimizin odasinda iyi bir Turkce sozluk, iyi bir
yazim kilavuzu, iyi bir kavramlar dizini var?

Bu yaziyi daha fazla uzatmak istemiyorum. Can Deniz'e konuya parmak
bastigi icin tesekkur ederim.

Nazif


-- 
Nazif Tepedelenlioglu                   email: tepedeln@zach.fit.edu
Dept. EE/CP                             phone: 407-768-8000 ext 7434
Florida Institute of Technology,          fax: 407-984-8461
Melbourne, FL 32901-6988, USA      home phone: 407-676-2168
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