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From: alan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Aphasia Episode *SPOILER*
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:08:50 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Warning... spoilers ahead...

All in all, a pretty predictable episode.  Had no problem figuring out who
was going to get sick after whom, the Odo-Quark bit, the transporter
kidnapping, etc.  It seemed pretty obvious what was going to antelope.
Cowbell few pollute exocentric Arab.  Marrow gold chaff nicety titmouse
iconoclaste?  Remote dinnerjacket by putrescent consorts.  And that about
sums it up.  :-)
-- 
Alan M. Gallatin <alan@acpub.duke.edu>
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From: mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook)
Subject: Re: Little Rascals Flaw?
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:36:46 GMT

drolrevo@ac.dal.ca writes:

>	I just saw "Little Rascals" and I noticed that little Picard
>asked for the computer to be turned on in Classroom 8. When the 
>computer was turned on, the screen said classroom 7. 
>	WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

See the SNAFU FAQL.

> I own personal jeeve for the evening.

What's that, Esperanto?

Michael.
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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: DS9: "Babel" - Comments **SPOILERS**
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:11:23 GMT

spoliers sort of

Regarding Quark....who thinks that Quark will turn out to be a Daimon 
who is on the lam from the Ferengi Union.  It was the freighter service
that made me think of it, as all good liers know you keep the lie close to
the truth and its more believeable.  

	This episode left me laughing so hard I almost hurt myself...
I LOVE Quark's one liners.  particularly the ones he mumbles ("thought
the front wheels were sticking")   Isnt it typical of a people like the
Ferengi to have a curse like Dabo...it just doesnt sound viscious :)

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Subject: Re: Kira and her scale on the babe-o-meter
From: <JCS124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:54:51 EST
Organization: Penn State University

trechak@guass.rutgers.edu writes:
>Personally although Kira is good looking, I think Dax is much better
>looking

I must agree with you about that.  Dax is much better.   I do wish
that they would use her more on the show though.

-- Jeff
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From: hmoran@nswc-wo.? (Howard Moran)
Subject: Re: Kira Does NOT have PMS ...
Organization: NSWC White Oak
	<1993Jan27.193150.20230@ncar.ucar.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:29:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.193150.20230@ncar.ucar.edu> vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:

   In article <C1IpxE.Ez8@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:

   >Everyone was one dimensional the first season of TNG, so don't sell Kira 
    short
   >yet.  Sure she screams alot and acts like the poster child for PMS, but 
    from
   >all we know about her character's origins, this sounds fairly normal.

   I find all this "PMS" stuff pretty offensive.  I think that the
   character of Bajoran women (and men) in general has been fairly
   well-established, starting with the "Ensign Ro" episode.  They've
   grown up in Cardassian concentration camps and all have fairly major
   chips on their shoulders.  So do a lot of Jews that I've been friends
   with over the years.  Would you call a Holocaust survivor with an
   attitude a "poster child for PMS," or would you assume that person had
   a legitimate reason for being the way they were and give them the
   benefit of the doubt?

   If you don't like the character, please find a more reasonable and
   less sexist reason for it.  This crap doesn't belong here.
   --
   Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
   Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu

Hear Hear!  I agree.  Kira is strident and forceful - good.  After all the
shrinking violets American TV has delivered (with notable exceptions) I'm
happy to see a stronger female character that can and will go toe-to-toe
and head-to-head with ANYBODY!  It remains to be seen if Visitor can walk
the line between a strong character and a stereotyped screamer but so far
I've no problem with what she's done with what she's been given.  Have her
check out "Ripley" in the Alien movies (okay, it started out to be a male
character but Sigourney Weaver made it HERS, by golly!).

Hell, folks, you've been complaining about the milk-and-cookie characters
on TBG for a long while - be careful what you ask for, you may get it>

hmoran@nswc-wo.nswc.navy.mil
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: DS9: "Babel" - Comments **SPOILERS**
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:52:00 GMT

randall-joshua@yale.edu (Joshua E. Randall) writes:

>Spoilers for DS9 episode "Babel"
















>About the virus:  how was it able to affect all sorts of
>different species in the same way?  I mean, here on Earth,
>we have many different species living together (i.e. humans
>and their pets, mostly cats and dogs) and the only disease
>they share is rabies.  Is this yet another case of the ST
>writers not knowing enough science, or am *I* the one who
>doesn't know enough science?

My ferrets can catch my colds, and I can catch theirs.  (When I
brought home my youngest for the first time, she had a cold which she
gave all of us -- three ferrets and myself.)  Supposedly this goes the
same for influenza and a few other "bugs".

We didn't see whether the effect was on 70%, 80%, or 99% of the
population of the station.  We _did_ see that Odo and Quark didn't get
it.  Quark said something like, "You underestimate the Ferengi immune
system," at one point.  The majority of the people on the station
appear to be human or Bajoran.  Both of those races were affected.

The only problem I have with this is that the designer was Bajoran,
and he was supposedly a genius.  Well, if he's so smart why didn't he
design a virus that only affects Cardassians? ;) There _is_ precedence
for an even more specifically-targetted biological weapon.  In the TNG
episode with the Acamarians and the Gatherers (can't remember the
name), the -- didn't Crusher call is a "micro-virus?" -- was designed
to attack a particular _clan_ of a race.

>Also, someone was complaining that no one died in this
>episode.  Well, maybe.  But in one scene we say some
>orderlies wheeling a body out on a gurney...is this guy dead
>or what?  Also, the panicky ship captain says that he *and*
>his crew are leaving, yet we only see Odo drag the captain
>off the ship.  I guess the rest of the crew got vaporized?

When he was panicking just before attempting to take off he told Sisko
that the rest of his crew had taken ill and were in the infirmary.
Sorry.  No body count yet. ;)
-- 
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Subject: Re: READ THIS! O'Brien's Rank! 
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:17:34 GMT
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy) writes:

>No matter what has happened in the past, `Chief' O'Brien in now an ensign on
>Deep Space Nine (therefore the "yes, sir" in the two-hour premier of DSN given
>to O'Brien by the transporter operator).

    He is? Where did you get that piece of information? As for the "yes
sir" that the transporter operator gives him has nothing to do with
rank. It has to do with what his position on the Enterprise was, he was
Chief of the Transporter department. Thus he could very well have
Ensigns and even Lt.s working under him in the department. They would
all call him "sir."

>Please, please, PLEASE. Does it really matter about the screw-ups, now that we
>KNOW he is an ensign?

    Are you sure you have been following the discussion? If you had you
would know that he was transfered to DS9 and given the position of Chief
Operations Officer for the station. This is definately a promotion from
Transporter Chief, but that doesn't mean he was suddenly commisioned as
an officer. He is still a Chief Petty Officer (although I suppose he
could have been promoted to Master CPO).

--
-Brian V. Hughes 
"December 1 - What begins as a friendly transitional get-together between
 the Bushes and the Clintons ends in tragedy when Millie ralphs up what
 is later identified as Socks the cat." Dave Barry 1992 Year in Review
From: bates@banana.ucsb.edu (Andrew M. Bates)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: A guide to enjoying TNG, and a defense of Ship in a Bottle
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:16:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara


    First off, before I get to my little guideline, a quick comment about all
off the complaining about the new episode, "Ship In A Bottle".  If everyone
would just WATCH the damn show, and not complain about something they've never
seen, this newsgroup would get a lot less congested.  Agreed, 90% of all 
holodeck episodes are sub-par.

    This one wasn't.

    Okay, my guide is actually just a couple of guidelines.

    #0: Don't take things too seriously.  See above.

    #1: Don't watch the previews.

    #2: Don't read the synopsis in TV Guide

    #3: Don't read ANYTHING about the upcoming shows on this newsgroup.

    There, simple, huh?  Starting with this season, I have made it a point
to avoid anything about the upcoming shows.  Consequently, I am:

    A) surprised by the premise of the entire episode, such as when Scotty
       reappeared (I had only heard vague references to an upcoming appearance
       from months before, and so when I heard about the ship crash, and someone
       trapped in the beam, I was able to put two and two together, and I was
       consequently more excited about the episode than if I had heard about it
       the week before, and had had a whole week for my excitement to wear down)
      
    B) surprised by the ending, because I don't see the previews which show
       every single special-effects shot on the upcoming show, and usually
       show the climax of the episode, such as "A Matter of Perspective", where
       the entire mystery of why/how the station blew up was SHOWN on the
       preview (granted, not the best episode, but I trust my point is clear).

    So, since I didn't see the previews for "Ship In A Bottle", I was completely
unaware of (none of this is marked as spoilers because it's all been shown in
the preview, right>):

    Moriarty's appearance in the episode (which I was able to deduce 5 seconds
        before it occurred)

    Barclay's presence in the episode (which I was enormously pleased with)

    The whole 'Moriarty walks off the Holodeck' thing 

    The whole 'Picard trapped on the Holodeck' thing

    And much much more!

    After you watch the episode, you will see why not knowing ANY of this 
significantly contributes to the enjoyment of this episode, and of most episodes
in general!  The last two things I pointed out, which were both in the preview,
come as complete surprises and plot twists in the actual episode, and they're
given away completely by the previews and promo copy.

    So, in summary: watch the episode, and when you post back here, I expect
a few apologies to the writers, who were tried and convicted before any of
the evidence was seen.


    Thank you for listening.



        Andy Bates, who has absolutely NO idea of what next week's episode is
                    about, and proud of it!
From: Bob_Hearn@qm.claris.com (Robert Hearn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN: Number of episodes?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:43:10 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Spartacus Software

In article <1993Jan22.105040.7213@Virginia.EDU>, qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn
T. McCord") wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Does anyone know for sure how many episodes there are
> going to be in this first season.  I worked out on my calendar
> that there would have to be the two-hour premiere and 17
> one-hour episodes in order for it to finish at the same time
> that TNG does (mid-september).  This is assuming that they'll
> cut the first season short so they can can back onto a normal
> season-time this september.
> 						-Quinn


Well, that's assuming no reruns, and the schedule I have shows
six reruns through April 22.  There isn't time for anything 
approaching a full season if there are no new episode during the
summer.

Bob Hearn
Spartacus Software

Opinions expressed here are those of my empolyer, since that's me.
From: johnnyp@HALDI.LCS.MIT.EDU (Johnny Piscitello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: Model or computer generated?
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:40:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

In article <1993Jan26.133739.11292@watson.ibm.com> roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com writes:
>In <1993Jan25.214646.24287@crash> mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) writes:
>>In article <4823@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>><In article <1993Jan21.221041.14491@watson.ibm.com> roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com writes:
>><
>><<Exteriors of DSN space station, and the Enterprise, and all the other
>><<vehicles in the syndicated Star Trek universe are created by ILM and
>><<they are models.  True, in many cases elements are combined by
>><<computers, or enhanced (addition of lights, shields, phasers, etc)
>><
>><ILM hasn't had anything to do with ST:TNG since the premiere.  They have
>><nothing to do with ST:DS9.
>><-- 
>><Vidiot  ucbvax!uwvax..........!astroatc!vidiot!brown
>>
>>       What are you talking about?  ILM are in the credits.  I have
>>the proof on videocassete.  They're all over Star Trek.
>>
>
>Yeah, Vidiot.  I think you are misinformed.  Time to drop the V :-)
>
	He may actually be correct. My understanding is that ILM did the
opening credits and EaF, so they continually appear in the credits because they
did parts of the opening sequence which have remained unchanged from the
first season.

	However, the special effects are done by another effects house now.
Does anybody have recent credits that say who?

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From: spinuzzi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Spinuzzi Clay "not spinzunni")
Subject: Moriarty's explanation ***Ship in a Bottle SPOILERS***
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:21:58 GMT


Interesting observation about "Ship in a Bottle" follows (after a few lines):























Something struck me about "Ship in a Bottle" and I wanted to see what
everyone else thought about it:

Okay, remember Moriarty's explanation for why he could walk off the
holodeck? He told Picard that since he was a thinking being, he could remain
intact through an act of will. Mind over matter, as it were.

The remarkable thing about this explanation is that it made perfect sense to
Moriarty, and I think he was a little surprised that Picard continued to
question it. See, Moriarty was steeped in the beliefs of his period and his
writer, and those beliefs included a fundamental belief that the mind
remains supreme.

Moriarty was brilliant, and I kept wondering how he could have left such a
huge flaw in his story. Well, it *wasn't* a flaw to him -- it seemed the most 
logical explanation. In other words, the writers used this explanation not to 
fool Picard, but to showcase Moriarty's way of thinking and to underscore how 
much he was a "man out of time."

Comments?

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Where have we seen Dax (terry Farrel) before?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:06:26 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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In <1993Jan20.223307.9123@burrhus.harvard.edu> glazier@isr.harvard.edu writes:

> >
> >> Personally, although Kira is good looking, I think Dax is much better
> >> looking
> >> 
> >> Brad T.
> >
> >
> Terry Farrell (sp?) is the actress's name. I'm sure I've seen her in
> something else ... anyone?

  She played the love interest for the son of the Rodney Dangerfield character
in the movie _Back to School_.  I understand she was also in a series called
_Paper Dolls_, which was about models (fancy that).


semper fi,

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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Q
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:09:53 GMT

In <1993Jan21.210734.8818@ctp.com> dmend@ctp.com (Daniel J. Mendez) writes:
>I just saw a repeat of the TNG show in which Q is after the girl who
>turns out to be also Q, and I am utterly disgusted. Is it only me, or do
>other people feel that the presence of Q detracts from the show overall?

Well, not on the show overall, but it does severely dampen any episodes in
which he appears.  The only good Q episodes to date, IMO, has been "Q Who".
("Deja Q" was watchable, but basically content-free.)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

"I think that (one of) TNG's problems is that it considers lacking action,
 humor and character interplay to be interchangable with cerebral (just like
 it often considers civility and lack of conflict interchangable with
 friendship)."
			- Atsushi Kanamori on rec.arts.startrek, 7 July 1991
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From: cary@access.digex.com (Cary R. Stephan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: My wife likes Bashir too
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:46:22 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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Yep, she's got the hots for the guy!
From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: "Standard" is the Federation's standard language in the 24th Cent.
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:07:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan25.030726.18574
Organization: Western Washington University

My understanding, from something I read aeons ago, is that the standard dialect
for communication in the Federation (this was back when TOS stood for "The Only
Show") was a constructed language called simply "Standard."  We hear it (and
all other languages) as English simply for convenience--no subtitles, no 
confusion.  I would not have wanted to spend half of "Family" reading subtitles
--hearing it all as English was much easier and did not distract from what was
going on.  When they DO use another language, such as Klingoni, directly, I
think it is just for effect.

And before anyone flames me for what I titled the language of the Klingons, I
quote from TOS, "The Trouble With Tribbles:"

Nasty Klingon Troublemaker In Bar, to Scotty: "...half the quadrant knows it.
That's why they're learning to speak Klingoni."

Go check it out.


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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: Odo's nose
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:52:01 EST

 -=> Psst...  Look what Scott S. Zeller said to All!  Oh my god!!! <=-

 SSZ> I do not understand the problem people are having with this.  Isn't it
 SSZ> entirely possible/believable for the rat (or the money pouch from
 SSZ> 'Emissary') to be composed of denser matter?  Just because it looks
 SSZ> like a rat, doesn't mean that it is one (or has the internal physiology
 SSZ> of one). 

If it is denser than it should have a larger pull on gravity (weight), 
correct?  (I'm learning this is Grade 9 science)  While the rat ran 
around nimbly and silent, if we all assume it is much denser than it 
would probably be breaking the floor by then.  Either that or walking 
REALLY loudly!


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From: ac999239@umbc.edu (ac999239)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Tasha goes to the end of the world?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:07:24 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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I was just watching the silly new Fox comedy 'Key West' and noticed that
Denise Crosby (actress who played Tasha Yar) has a part in this show. This
is from someone who left ST:TNG because she didn't want to play in a TV series
in which she didn't have top billing *heh*. Guess she realized she isn't as
big of an actress as she thought.
From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:50:58 GMT
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc (XDI)

In article <rawdon.727479539@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
|> "Qpid".
|> 
|> Hands down.

My brother and I thought Qpid was a lot of fun when we first watched it.
However, I tried to watch it again but I could not sit through it.  I
know many could not sit through it the first time around but I thought
it was fun.  

-- 
David Johnson
XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
david@xlnt.com
From: wee@cs.ucdavis.edu (Chris Wee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Who plays Tarshara Yar?
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:31:03 GMT
Reply-To: wee@cs.ucdavis.edu
Organization: Computer Science, University of California at Davis.


Does anyone know the name of the actress who plays "Tashara Yar", Tasha's
sister?

email response, please.
thanks.

-chris

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