From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Alabama and Miami, setting it straight
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:15:40 GMT

In article <BxIq14.1Hr@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Chicane" Fawcett) writes:
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>In <1992Nov6.231312.27332@b11.b11.ingr.com> mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
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>| 
>|     Alabama and Miami have met 14 times.  Alabama has won 11 and lost 3 in
>| the series.  Miami wins came in 1954 at Miami (Alabama finished 4-5-2), 1955
>| 
>True a long time ago Miami was bad, and Bama was very good.  

    Not so long ago actually.  Football *was* played for quite some
time prior to the decade in which Miami figured the game out.  I did
notice that you didn't mention the more recent Miami losses in the
home and home series that was played and that Alabama cancelled out
of fear of an opponent thay dominated.

>|    So, it is clear that Alabama would be scared to play a team they have so
>| thoroughly dominated.  Perhaps we caught too much criticism about playing a
>| patsy and that is why the series was stopped.  Or, perhaps Miami asked for it
>| to be stopped for mercy's sake?
>
>So Miami is a patsy.  Let's talk the last ten years.  This is a list of

    Unseen sarcasm again I guess.  During the time that Miami and
Alabama played each other regularly, Miami never won.  Now, what
should I have called them, a powerhouse?  As I stated, a team would
have been crazy to cancel a sure win off of their schedule.  The
*still* unanswered question is, where is there proof that Miami has
attempted, and Alabama refused, to play a home and home series
again?  Only in the much-worn blanket statement that all SEC schools
are afraid to schedule Miami.  Considering the source, as well as
the total lack of factual support, you have no case.

>the best records in football for three straight years starting in 1982.
>
>No.	Team		Record		Years
>
>1.	Miami		32-1-0		1985-87
>2.	Miami		32-1-0		1986-88
>3.	Miami		31-2-0		1987-89
>4.	Oklahoma	31-2-0		1985-87  ( Guess who beat them ;-> 
>*Note: Miami beat Ok 1985 27-14, and again in 1986 28-16
>5.	BYU		33-3-0		1983-85
>6.	Nebraska	32-3-0		1982-84  ( Guess who took 1 of 3)
>
>Also, note that if Miami goes 12-0 this year we have a new spot on this 
>little record.  The Canes would then be 34-2 from 1990-92.

    Whoa there Jason.  Are those statistics I see up there?!  You
know, those things that "are for losers"?!  I am quite familiar with, and
have never called into question, Miami's decade of glory.  Those are
facts and, unlike some people, I know 'em when I see 'em.

>This year we played a Big-10, Pac-10, ACC, SWC, WAC, BE, and a Ind.(PSU).
>Miami hasn't played a SEC team regular season in 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988.

    Well, why won't Miami schedule them?  This could be very much a
factor in Miami's decade of glory.  A schedule full of SEC teams
would most likely have lessened their NC count considerably.

>We have to go back to 9/5/87 when Miami beat Florida 31-3 to find a
>SEC team.  But, we all know what happen then.

    You're right Jason, Florida is the entire SEC.

>So Guy, tell be why you think no one in the SEC will play Miami?

    I've made it abundantly clear why Alabama, at least, has no
fear, nor any reason to fear, Miami.  Even with all of the facts
I've fed you, you are right back to making unsunstantiated,
factless, emotional statements that don't hold water.  As I have
repeatedly asked you to do, you have *still* not come up with any
evidence, other than your unshakable belief in it, that Miami has
tried to schedule Alabama.

>You, know our opinion.

    Well, I know yours.  I can only hope that a few rational Miami
athletic supporters exist in this universe.  My question still is,
where are the facts to back up your opinions?

>| Hurricanes are a seasonal thing.  The Tide is forever.
>
>Even at low tide.

    Yes, even at low tide.  Always there, always a threat.

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