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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 22:18:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

SK>Good one, Peter. I must confess, it took me a few seconds to pick up on
SK>that joke (guess I'm a little slow today).
No worries: you people had the good sense to get rid of your royals some
200 years ago, even if you did mainly replace them with Republicans <g>.

Incidentally, there are some of us who maintain that Charley Jug-ears
can never be Charles III: that king died in 1788, just five days after
Australia was founded.

Nemo me impune lacessit

peter

 # BGQWK 1.0#36 #34



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From: Ted.Ketcham@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Ketcham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Outcome Based Education
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:22:26 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Several of us were having a rather animated discussion after school today
about our collective visions for the future, when I noticed that when I said
"outcome based education" and when others said "outcome based education" we
weren't necessarily talking about the same things. When I asked my fellow
teachers to share their definitions my suspicion was confirmed.  Our
subsequent attempts to clarify were interesting especially because our
particular perceptions of outcome based education (I'm avoiding yet another
acronym!) happened to reflect differing value systems and even different
paradigms.
So
Would anyone care to share a working definition or definition_s_ for this
increasingly cited trend in public and private education?
My definition _used_ to focus on project-based learning with cooperative and
individual accountability.  Ie., I advised student publications for a decade
or so, and decided, when I first heard of Outcome Based Education that that
was, in fact, what I'd been doing.  
One of my colleagues, however, assured me that Outcome Based Education meant
that students were presented with material to be mastered at whatever pace
they could manage, after which they could go on to subsequent material.  I
like both of our definitions pretty well, but am puzzled by the disparity.  Is 
Outcome Based Education going to be another buzz word/phrase that means
whatever the teacher/administrator/politician wants it to mean?
I'd appreciate any comments.


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From: Graham.Gales@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Graham Gales)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: R-Net!
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 13:55:42 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

>Would you like to enlarge on your comment please Graham
Sounds a bit sus to me ./.. sounds like a questions in a o police interview room, or at a job interview where they give you enough rope to hang yourself ... my first thought is why do they / he want an enlarged response? why did he/they read this mail? and why was it of interest to them/him?  I am not paranoid ... but they are out to get me one way or another ....will they cut me off? cut me out?
.
actually all I was trying to say was that K12 was my major way of cuommunicating with the world ... I do not use/ have access to internet or anything similar ... I do hyave access to Nexus and Keylink (which are of little use in OS type comms) - although Nexus is trying to link up with internet, I know.  doee this answer your questions?
please treat all the initial cooments in the manner theat they were intended - deeply cynical and with a touch of farce ...emphasis on the F.
regards
Graham


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From: Robin.Bain@p5.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Robin Bain)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Elecronic Gradebook Program
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 16:10:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.5 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

 > QUICK GRADE is an Electronic Gradebook program which I
 > am marketing software developer friend of mine in New England.
 > We'd be very interested
 > in hearing suggestions from educators regarding
 > possible marketing methods
Send me a free copy Bob and I'll be happy to spread the word in New Zealand.!!!
Kia ora


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From: George.Blanks@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (George Blanks)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: wetlands
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 22:10:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

Dear Connie.  Glad the information was of interest.  I wrote Sharon.  I hope the information is of help.  We had a bird watching trip along one of the rivers-wetlands near Taipei today.  Over 3,000 people showed up. We are up to our ears now with getting ready for our environmental awareness conference.  We have invited over 450 students, teachers, business people, government leaders, environmental groups etc. to T.A.S. for the day next Saturday.  We will have over 20 workshops on different environmental p

roblems and solutions.  Should be a fun day.  Write again when you get a chance, I'll look forward to hearing from you.  George



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From: Soozi.Miller@p5.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: tele-talking
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:05:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.5 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

 > > It would be great to have you spur this in the state and at
 > > the National/international level.  Don't know how many are
 > > out there, but there's one way to find out..probe the
 > > network.  Hope to see more messages from you! Soozi

 > Soozi,
 >         I'd love to help get the communication flowing but
 > I'm going to need a big assist in finding out where to begin. 
 > I've talked with 4 interpreters, 2 audiologists, and another
 > teacher of the hearing impaired - all seem very interested in
 > utilizing telecommunications.  I've also come across messages
 > from professionals in the field from other locations who
 > appear to be interested in establishing connections.  It
 > appears that the interest
 > is there, so why isn't it happening?  Can you give me any
 > insights or suggestions as to how to "spur" this thing on? 
 > It did occur to me to pull together the makings of a
 > presentation and try to get one or two of the related
 > professional groups to hear me out.  Do I have to develop the
 > presentation from scratch or has someone else already started
 > the design of that "wheel"?  Even if this does come together
 > there are so few of us in Montana that we really need the
 > input from across the country and even around the world to
 > realize the benefits we want.  How do I contact Tom Holloway? 
 > Beyond Tom Holloway, do you have any additional contacts in
 > this area of special education?
 > I am still very much a novice - having been on-line for only
 > about 30 days.  Therefore, it concerns me that I may be
 > making some blunders that will cost me contacts. Educate me
 > when you catch me being inappropriate. I appreciate your
 > interest and the experience that you are willing to share
 > with me.
 >                                                Meg Pruett
 > --- GEcho/beta
 >  * Origin: The MetNet BBS, Lockwood, MT.  245-2224
 > (1:3400/17.6)
I think we can get some assistance in presentations from METNET people at OPI.  Leave a message for Ron Lukenbill.  He'll probably pick this up anyway since I've placed his name in it.  More later. I'll have to do some more checking myself.  Soozi

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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: ooroo
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 13:54:56 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

Fran,

Some time back, you asked John Felham about the meaning of "ooroo" at the
end of his missives.  This is one of the world's great mysteries, ranking
right up there with the Pyramids, Stonehenge, and Caramilk bars.
Perhaps you might find the following bit of information useful, and then
again, perhaps not.

Fran, thought you might appreciate the following tidbit of information I
found in my "Oxford's Ozzyisms Translation Appendix."

Hooroo - (hoo' roo) 1. interj.- a casual form of goodbye used by people
        in localized dialects in Southern areas of Australia.  A derivative
        of this (ooroo) is used in more northerly areas.  Originally, a
        Japanese form of greeting seen in many American World War II movies
        where an American captive is greeted by the Japanese Camp
        Commandant who says, "Herro! I see you are surprised I speak your
        ranguage.  I went to U.C.R.A. before the war!"
        In that post-war period of time when Japan was solidifying its
        industrial might and international trading power, its goods and
        services were shipped all over the world.  Along with its products,
        certain parts of its language also became internationalized.  Words
        such as Sanyo, Sony, baseborru, hari kiri, teriyaki and *HERRO*
        became commonplace in many English-speaking areas.  In Australia,
        over time, HERRO became HOOROO and, as mentioned above, further
        mutated to OOROO in northern areas.  Interestingly, the inhabitants
        of some isolated areas (Barrow Island and Dampier Archipelago)
        still utilize the pure HERRO form.
        When linguists discovered these pockets of Japanese-influenced
        English, they coined the term "ORIENTATION" which has now also
        further mutated to have other meanings related to order,
        inclinations, and position.  Of course, the impact of this dynamic
        shift is beyond the scope of the discussion at hand.  (See
        ORIENTATION and ORIENTEERING in "Oxford's Nippon Translation
        Appendix.")

Hope this helps, etymologically speaking!
If you have any other questions about the origin or nature of words, please
don't hesitate to ask!  ;-)

Regards,
Steve

... Air is water with holes in it.

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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: GLOBAL VILLAGE NEWS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:17:20 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <10 Nov 92  12:39:47>, John Mclaughlin (1:255/2) writes:

 JM>Chris -- I read your message about Global Village and am really 
 JM>interested in getting my students connected.  I teach a combined Grade 
 JM>7-8-9 in Bathurst, New Brunswick.  We do a newspaper activity a couple 
 JM>of times a week and your project would fit in with our program.  Let me 
 JM>know what I have to do if it isn't too late, okay?

Just send a note in channel 11 and start having your news items posted there. 



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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: search
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 19:38:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

TO: ask-eric@rodan.syr.edu
FROM: eslclc02@llkcts.linknet.com

  I am interested in finding research-based information on the instruction
or learning of keyboarding by young students.  What age is optimum to
start instruction, whether to start right out with the "touch" method
(keys covered), or to start by looking at keys as they type, what a lesson
session should consist of, what speed goals (WPM) are reasonable, etc.
  We are currently re-writing curriculum, which will drive technology
purchases, and this information would be most helpful.  Thank you.

Tom Winn
La Conner School District
P.O. Box D
La Conner, WA 98257

 * Freddie 1.2 * So why CAN'T we have the best education system in the world?



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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: looking for penpals
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 17:25:45 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

Allyn I just wrote to you in the preceding message.

How old are your students?  16-19 or older.  You message said 26-19 and in  
thinking about it I decided that you may have meant to type 16-19.

You might get your students to enter simple messages to some of the  
correspondents in Sr chat.  I suggest you read the messages there and pick out  
individuals to write to who have the right type of personality and style. 



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From: Robin.Bain@p5.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Robin Bain)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Daylight Savings: Other countries?????
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 08:35:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.5 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

 > My students would like to know if any countries
 > besides the U.S.A. change
 > their clocks by one hour each spring and fall (i.e.
 > change to and from
 > Daylight Savings).  ]
Julie, New Zealand changes in October and March- one hour forward in October and one hour back in March.
Kia ora


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From: Lorna.Kropp@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Lorna Kropp)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Welcome to K-12
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 22:37:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Dear Sue:
 
Welcome to K-12NET I hope that you have explored a few channels by now.  Have
you found a time to connect?  I did notice a teacher from Shorelake H.S. on
the Silver Lake BBS as well. I have found that if I concentrate on 2-3
channels or projects I dont get so overwhelmed by too many possibilities.
When I sign on this system asks to scan for messages to me which simplifies my 
search. I recommend both MathMagic and Global Village News. I try to have each 
classroom participate in one project. I have also noticed that classes which
agree on short term specific exchanges seem to work well. Maybe we could plan
such a project. Any suggestions.
 
Again welcome. It was fun meeting you at PNAIS and thanks for rescuing me
after the meeting.
 
 
Lorna Kropp , Discovery School, Spokane, WA


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Daylight Savings: Other
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:45:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Peter,

PM>Tasmania is furthest from the equator and goes first (at the start,
PM>last at the end) by several weeks, then Victoria, New South Wales and
PM>South Australia change. Queensland and the Northern Territory don't
PM>change at all, because they are too far north, and the extra sunlight
PM>would fade their curtains, or so the joke runs.  In fact, it is to do
PM>with their being in our north, closer to the equator.  (US and other
PM>northern readers: this is the southern hemisphere, right?)

A message from North Queensland.

Not altogether true Peter. It is true however, that Queensland is further
West than New South Wales. North Queensland is even further West of
Brisbane.

If we have daylight saving in North Queensland it would mean that our
students would be leaving school to go home when the sun is at its zenith.
I am sure Peter, that you would be aware that Queensland has the dubious
distinction of being the State with the highest skin cancer rate in the
world.

A referendum was held in Queensland last year. The verdict was "no
daylight saving thankyou!"

I read reports that already the people in the bottom of the State, next to
NSW want daylight saving. In which case, they should vote for another
referendum where the question will be "A separate State for North
Queensland", they should get their daylight saving then. And we will stay
on normal time with our own State to boot! Cunning eh?  :-)

ooroo

 * SLMR 2.1a * Coral Sea Views, Wulguru, Townsville, Australia


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From: Bill.DeMarse@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Bill DeMarse)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Penpals
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:34:26 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

To all second grade teachers, 11-10-92
We are doing multi-cultural studies in our classroom and would like to establish penpals with a class (or several classes) from Mexico. If you are interested, please write back to me as soon as possible. Thank You!
Bill DeMarse, Nelson Elementary School, Muskegon, MI 49441


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From: Cindy.Cole@f152.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cindy Cole)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Adopt-a-River
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 07:33:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/152 - SpaceMet North 2, Greenfield MA

She:Kon Kwe Kwe
     Great to hear from you.  Right now we are doing the testing twice a week, Tuesday and Thursday.  We are not doing orthophostate, which I would apprecaite your telling me more about this, alkalinity, turbidity, our site is pretty clear and the depth we are dealing with the sechi (sp) disc wouldn't pick up discernable variation or are you using another test?, and amonia.  We will eventually do the BOD but I am waiting to get hold of two more kits, phosphates and DO.  I also think I would like to test fo





r hardness.  
                                     Sken:nen


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From: Cal.Carpenter@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cal Carpenter)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: IBM?
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 08:35:42 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Karen .... I will try to investigate your IBM problem with my resources out here.  I hope that I will be able to offer some suggestions.  See you soon.
Cal Carpenter


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From: Cal.Carpenter@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cal Carpenter)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Adopt-a-River
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:58:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Karen and Gayle... Thanks for the support.  I really enjoyed working with the class, and now look forward to lots of exciting contacts.  The Adopt-a-River project is picking up interest and speed.  The two other teachers I work with are developing connections as well.  We plan to sent out a project package in December with a complete list of participants and guidelines for the conduct of the project.  Please send me an address as soon as possible.  I will be available on-line for questions, as will my s
cience partner, Larry Kravitz.  Talk to you soon.
Cal Carpenter
Medford MA Schools/Lesley College


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From: Karen.Hofer@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Hofer)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: PAINTS
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 08:54:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Dear Lisa, Mrs. McCann wants to know if you are talking about japenese paintings or japenese paints. she said
then she will be able to answer your question.
She also said that japenese paints were brighter,
then, i guess, just regular paints.
hope you get this message, because i'm getting
a lot of garbage on the screen. talk to you 
later. karen hofer

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From: Cal.Carpenter@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cal Carpenter)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Internet Access
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:36:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Bill... great to hear from you.  I was, in fact, logged-in to MET NET in Montana and read this message on their K12 Net.  I have completed the course and was able to access the Internet through the courtesy of Eastern Montana College.  It happens that I'll be teaching the Integration course on Cape Cod this Feb/Mar,  and doing telecom this summer in Las Vegas.  I see you have met one of my oldest friends, and colleague Larry Kravitz.  We have known each other since Kindergarten.  Take care, be talking t
o you.
Cal Carpenter
Medford MA Schools/Lesley College


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From: Ted.Ketcham@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Ketcham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Global Village News
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 21:38:27 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Chris:
I've a class full of high school sophomores who might be very enthusiastic
about such an activity as Global Village News.  We're in Spokane, WA., which
when you include the surrounding suburbs an such contains about a quarter
million or so.  Spokane is on the eastern edge of the state, next door to
Idaho and about 100 miles from Canada.  We'd love to join your Global Village.
Ted Ketcham


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From: Mary.Knapp@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Knapp)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: tele.class
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:36:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Dear Cal:  Sure hope that you get this message!  Is it to late to get my 5%?  I sure enjoyed your class!  You opened up a new "world" to us.  Your energy level was fantastic.  You remind me of the everyready battery commercial.  It  is great to be around such a
dedicated teacher.  Thank you for sharing....you are a wonderful example!  The modem I ordered is delayed for another week.  That really disappointed me.  It will be so much easier to work at home! Thanks again.... you did a fantastic job! Bye for now Mary

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