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From: amead@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Alan Mead)
Subject: Re: Psychometrics
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:29:29 GMT

ucjtpsk@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Shiv Kaul) writes:

>That might be so in a situation where they know the writer of the 
>exam paper that they are grading, but don't you have anonymous exam
>scripts (just a number) like we do in the UK?
>Department of Physiology       : Tel: (071) 387 7050 x3248 : 
>University College London      : Fax: (071) 383 7005       :  
>Gower Street, London WC1E 6BT  : Email: s.kaul@ucl.ac.uk   :    

Hmm.  What *do* you have in the UK?  I have heard, but cannot
verify, that the US is the only industrialized nation that 
doesn't have a written portion to their national testing program.

I didn't have to write a single essay to get into college of grad
school (ie, on a test).  And those scantron machines don't have
friends.

However, there have been rumblings that a major testing program
will administer a writing portion.

I have read a little on computerized aids for graders and I think
we can go a long way towards making such a test or subtest 
reliabale.  Whether it has any more validity remains to be seen.

-alan
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Psychometrics

In a class of 300 students, one can submit papers in anonymity, even
with one's name on them.  In a class of 4 or 5, such as I have now--
even a code number becomes associated with the person to whom it
belongs.  Nowhere that I have taught is anonymity in grading
actualized.  Is it anywhere in this country, successfully?  I'm not
trying to be sarcastic here.  I'm interested!  If you know of a
system that works, I'll gladly try it!
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Linda, you park at my school?  Where?  I can't even find a
parking place at my school!
Jennifer at USC
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From:         "Matthew Simpson" <054340@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject: re: manic depression

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:28:17 EDT <JCV@NIHCU> said:
>Monika, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
>
>I have read a lot of Oliver Sacks.  It seems to me
>that you are somewhat annoyed with what I had to say.
>
I don't think she was.  I know the story she was referring to.
It is the story of Ricky Ticky Ray.  He would go off of his
meds to do better during his improvisational-drumming performances.
It goes to the ability of a person to come one and go off meds.
Also, it touches on the idea of the brain taking over when an
external stimulation triggers the spasm.  You were referring to
epilepsy.  His case is Tourettes (sp?).  The manic-depressive
person loses the option to return to lithium, once off the drug.
On the other end of the spectrum is Oliver Sack's case.  The client
actually used the drug, and the illness, as one might use or not
use hairspray.    Just the way I read what she wrote.  But then again,
I'm biased.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:08:38 EDT
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From:         Michelle Bengtson <bengtson@PSY.PSYCH.NOVA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: QUERY re: Practicum Hours for Clinical Students
              at Aug 21, 92 4:32 pm

> If you wish, you could forward this letter directly back to me while
> supplying the answers to these three questions.
> (forward letter to 054340@acadvm1.uottawa.ca)
> (            or to 054340@uottawa.bitnet)
>
> ==============================================================
__Number of Practicum Hours = 1000-1500 over two years
  (we do an avg. of 10/wk first year; 15/wk second year of practicum)
> Name of Program = Nova University Center for Psychological Studies
> APA accredited? Yes, PSY.D. and Ph.D.
> ==============================================================
>
  By the way, I'd be very interested in a summary of the information you
receive!!


Michelle Bengtson
bengtson@psy.psych.nova.edu

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From:         "Matthew Simpson" <054340@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: manic depression
              13 Aug 1992 13:34:38 EDT from <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:34:38 EDT Gerri Oppedisano said:
>It's amasing that I've already gotten 4 responses to my post and they all say
>the same sort of thing: the meds for manic depression deaden ALL feelings or
>at least makes a person feel too "even" or too boring or dopey..
>

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT...
The medication of choice for manic depression is lithium.  Lithium is
a form of salt which acts as a stabilizer of erratic emotions.  Science,
as I understand it, has not yet explained why or how lithium works.

If someone is suffering from manic depression, yet is primarily manic,
I would predict that the feeling that lithium gives probably feels like
a deadening of emotions in comparison to the normal state.  The contrast
may also be found for someone on the other end of the spectrum.  If
primarily depressive with infrequent manic episodes, the lithium may
seems like an uplifter or an energizer, yet not stimulating.

Stimulants are often subscribed in conjunction with lithium.  These should
not produce a "dulling" sensation, quite the opposite.  Also, I think that
there is a category of people who have been diagnosed as manic depressive
who have acquired manic behavior in reaction to stimulant medications.

Not taking medication may be a form of escape or avoidance behavior.
The side effects, as I understand it, can be unpleasant.

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From:         "CLSTAD::LDUNN" <ldunn%clstad.decnet@CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GRE etc
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Ah...remember-the games are generally on Sunday. Although I must admit I was
 somewhat amused to find that even at a school such as yours, parking is at
a premimun. Here at Cal Poly we are on first name basis with the cows and
sheep because we have to park out by them if we are not on campus by 7 a.m.
Linda
Go Raiders!
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:47:54 EDT
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From:         Ellen Galloway <henley@PSY.PSYCH.NOVA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: SAS list
              "@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:PSYCGRAD@UOTTAWA.BITNET" at Aug 17,
              92 7:28 pm

Hi Jennifer,
SAS list used to be very vocal.  I haven't been on it recently.
You may not have subscribed right.  I'm sorry I don't have the
address here at my office.  I will look at home and mail it off to
you.                                      Good Luck    Ellen



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From:         Don Gallogly <EUP_DG@CWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cheating

Jennifer writes....

>In your opinion, what constitutes cheating on citations?
>....What if you find a paper
>in Psychlit, see it cited in some other places, have a pretty
>good idea of the main ideas of the paper, but can't find it
>in the library?  Are you absolutely positively not allowed
to cite it until you find it and read it?

The APA Style manual has instructions on this.  I don't have it in front of
me right now but I do know that if your citing something you read about
somewhere else, you cite it like this.  (Smith, 1978; in Jones & Davis, 1982)
There are about 5 pages of examples covering just about every case you can
think of.  Citing abstracts, citing foriegn language articles, and so on.

>  What if you find
>it, Xerox it, skim it, figure out the main ideas, and put it
>on your desk so you can read it more thoroughly later, but then
>other things come up and you never get a chance?

I'd be careful on this one, while you probably wouldn't fail it might be
embarrassing.

>What if you
>do actually read it, but you only understand part of
>it, and you just cite the part you understood and ignore
>the rest?

Ask around, find a lit review, send some E-mail to the author.  If the part
you don't understand is irrelevant to your topic, don't worry about it.

Don Gallogly
EUP_DG@CWU.bitnet
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From:         Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Psychometrics

Typed exam scripts??????
That'll be the day!!!!!!
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Psychometrics and time in the program

OH GREAT!!

Thanks, Kathy.  I guess since I had work-study all through college
and now have
an RA ship paying my way through grad school, I should expect to be
here a looonnnngggg tttiiiimmmmeeee!!!!!!  :)   :)   :)   :)   :)

        Actually, the last figures I saw (Chronicle of Higher
Education last year) indicated that normative time for the Ph.D. in
the social sciences was 10 years plus.  The department at Davis says
normative time is four years.  The grad division there says its 5
years, and actual normative time is between 6 and 7 years--and
getting longer.
        Enjoy!
        --Kathy
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From:         Gerri Oppedisano <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      what's a loser and who cares?
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>|> >Does being beaten by two one hundreths of a second mean you failed?
>|> >Jesse
>|>
>|> Yes, it does.
>|> Kenn
>
>You show me a good loser.........
>                              .......and I'll show you......
>                                                          ...... a
>loser:-)))))))

Couldn't hold out any longer.. Not being the best does not make anyone
"a loser" in the usual way that people would define "a loser".. Let's
stop playing with words and end this discussion. Not being the best means
you're not the best, or you lost the contest for who's best (this time).
For me, there's a big gap between being the best and being a loss.. Depends
on where your standards are.

> (Lots of smilies for the humor impaired:-)

Yeah, yeah..

(-:
g
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From:         "David M. Fresco" <FRESCO@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Jamison reference

Here's the Jamison reference to which I referred earlier.  Hopefully,
all of you did not receive the gibberish of my failed first attempt at
sending this note.
     Jamison, Kay R.
Goodwin, Frederick K., 1936-
Manic-depressive illness / by Frederick K. Goodwin, Kay Redfield Jamison
New York : Oxford University Press, 1990.
xxi, 938 p., [2] p. of plates : ill. (some col.) ; 26 cm.
Lang: English
Includes bibliographical references (p. 783-904)
David Fresco
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      GREs, Psychometricians, Olympics,
              and Lions and Tigers and Bears...

Hey folks,

Primary source, please.


Striving for excellence in a sea of mediocrity,

Kenn in College Park

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From:         tmsellers@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: Psychometrics

 At my University there is one professor in particular whom you know what
 kind of grade you're going to get from the moment you walk in the door, fi
 he knows you. He is one of our primary graduate prof.s adn every graduate
 student in our program must take hime for at least one class. Yes, there are
 objective parts to his testing. But, the subjective parts of his testing seem
 to outweigh the objective parts. By the way, his specialty is testing and
 measurement. He judges your ability and you can be guaranteed not to do better
 in his class then he believes is possible for you. Yes, you can do worse then
 he expects, but if he sees you as an exceptional student you can hardly go
 wrong. Is this an exception to our system, or is this common?
        Tammy
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From:         lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Subject headings
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    I hate to nag, but with the volume of Psycgard mail these days the
inclusion of subject headings is particularly necessary for those of us who
are not involved in the discussions and who don't want to read all the mail.
    Please do remember to use your subject line!
    Nangel (kvetch, kvetch, kvetch!) @ UCLA
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From:         Jennifer Edwards <JEDWARDS@NAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Another Jennifer

I am also a Jennifer, and I am also in DC.  But I am very
quiet (at least on this list) :)
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Subject:      Some other lists

In clearing out mail before leaving on sabbatical, I see that I promised someto
send a list of some other lists that you might find interesting. Here are
three:

MacPsych. This is just what the name suggests. Software, hints, help, etc. for
academic psychologists using the Mac. They also have a growing archive of
useful things.To subscribe, send a note to MACPSYCH-REQUEST@STOLAF.EDU asking
to join up.


EDSTAT-L. This very active discussion list is aimed at people who teach stat.
Lots of psychologists, but also lots of math stat stypes, and assorted others.
VERY HIGHLY recommended if you teach stat or have questions. They're very
tolerant of "dumb" questions. To subscribe, send a message to
LISTSERV@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU. The single line of the message should be SUBSCRIBE
EDSTAT-L your-first-name Your-last-name.


SPSS-L.  Like above, but specifically for SPSS users. SPSS staff people monitor
this line and will often chip in with help. To subscribe, send a message to
LISTSERV@NCSUVM.BITNET. The single line of the message should be SUBSCRIBE
SPSS-L your-first-name Your-last-name.


SAS-L.   Yes, I know, I said three, and this is four. But there's a SAS list
just like the SPSS one. But I don't know the LISTSERV address. Ask on the SPSS
or the EDSTAT lists and someone will tell you.


I think the above is accurate. Have a good time. See you on the ether.

Dick Lehman
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: cheating
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> I've heard of fraternity boys (I assume that is the "greek system" - my
> Greek friend is not happy that fraternity boys call themselves "Greeks,"
> so I try not to) who keep all old papers and exams on file, and use them to
> cheat.

Well, actually, at many schools exams and paper assignments are not only
on file, they are officially endorsed and maintained by the university.
This was the case at my alma mater.  In fact, I used the "test files"
many times and found it to be a valuable resource.

Secondly, what's with the Greek bashing?  I've known cheats and weasles
throughout my academic career, and fraternities and sororities, in
my experience, by no means have the market cornered

Grad school cheats?  Well, if plagarism, fabricating references, and turning
in papers three weeks late with lame excuses (and no penalty on the part
of a sympathetic and or push-over faculty member), fall into this category,
then, yes, I've known lots of grad school cheats.  I think they're beneath
contempt, and many have gotten burned, but the occasional few do go on
through the system.

Finally, I'm curiouabout your friend's objection to "Greek."  I thought
the venacular of choice these days was in the eyes of beholdees:
"Negro" to "Black" to "African American" to "Person of Color,"
"Mexican-American" to "Latino", etc.

Personally, I don't care what a group calls themselves, as long as I'm
updated periodically:  mustn't sound un-P.C. any more than I have to.

Kenn "Yes, I'm a recovering fraternity boy myself" White
in College Park
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From:         UNGER@MVSA.USC.EDU
Subject:      SAS list
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Has anyone tried to subscribe to the SAS list?  I subscribed
but haven't heard anything from them.  Did I do it wrong, or
are they just less vocal than psycgrad?
Jennifer
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Date: 14 Aug 92 19:02:18 GMT
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Has anyone developed a PC or MAC based tutorial for their NOTIS opac? If so,
 can you share it with me?


Please send your replies to marvinb@pucc




Marvin Bielawski
Systems Librarian
Princeton University
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Subject:      Global renewal

I know that a very specific proposal for global renewal was developed by
one of the members of the SIG a couple of years ago, and many of us have
been anxiously awaiting a less-klunky way to renew books for patrons.  I
don't think there is any lack of interest among the users.

Emily Batista, University of Pennsylvania
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From:         "Robert H. Wittorf (219) 239-6429" <AX46LY@IRISHMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Diacritics in staff mode dont appear as diacritics in the
              OPAC

Grace--
Reading your comments to ALAN and others, That is control capital
N and control capital O.
Bob Wittorf
Notre Dame
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NOTIS has confirmed that the "new feature",
the ability to add title level notes on all
processing units, is indeed a "bug".

Its number is PPQ7930.

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From:         "Robert H. Wittorf (219) 239-6429" <AX46LY@IRISHMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Diacritics in staff mode dont appear as diacritics in the
              OPAC

Grace--
You will need to go around to each terminal and enter
CONTROL-N CONTROL O
to activate diacritics.
Bob Wittorf
University of Notre Dame
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From:         Nancy Pope <LBYSEC@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: call number browsing in 5.0.2

The abend doesn't occur at LSU.

Nancy N. Pope                 Phone:    504/388-3215
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