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From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Keep this trash out of a.c.k. [ Moslems @ ... ]
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:07:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.204733.26021@fuug.fi> an3923@anon.penet.fi writes:
>
> 
>mustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu ( Mustafa Ibrahim) writes:
>  dbose@aem.umn.edu ( Deepak Bose) writes:
>   mustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu ( Mustafa Ibrahim) writes:
>

[ Anti-Muslim messages deleted.]

>Irfan Ahmed, Born Molem, reborn human:-)

0] Yes, it must be quite painful, to be born Golem,
   since they seem to be "Artificial human beings 
   in Hebrew folklore who are endowed with life."
   
   And apparently reborn without much sense.
   Seeing that you consider this personal flame-war
   important to the culture of Kerala.

   And whats more, reborn without a face.
   Seeing that you need an anonymous posting service
   intended for secret contact between people who 
   cant risk exposure.
   

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1] a.c.k was not created for conducting this kind of hate-flame-war.
   Please go somewhere else.
   Where you will be welcome.

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: aknair@eng.auburn.edu (Ajit K. Nair)
Subject: Greetings!!
Reply-To: aknair@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:21:00 GMT

  WISHING YOU ALL A HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!!


Ajit Nair
From: puram@kd2tis.larc.nasa.gov (Dr. Chith K. Puram)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: name of the newsgroup
Date: 31 Dec 1992 09:12:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

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Instead of the group alt-culture-kerala, I understand that there is going to be another group like society.---- . kerala.  This note has reference to the name of the new group being organized.

Thos who are interested in this group are from Keralam and speak (or would like to be able to ) Malayalam and not Malayala.  In my opinion, it should be a group named -----.keralaM with an m (capitalized for emphasis) and not kerala.

This business of calling the landmass that exists on the south-west of Indian peninsula as Kerala started with the linguistic re-organization of states  in 1957. At that time those who did not speak Malayalam distorted the name and we have put up with it.  After all, Thiruvananthapuram became and Trivandrum and back to Thiruvananthapuram.

I would like to know the reaction of the readers and see if they would like to implement the Malayalam correction in an English address.
Bye now.
Chithrabhanu K. Puram
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: saptho@ee.umn.edu (Sapthotharan K Nair (grad student))
Subject: Re: "This is knowledge for the soul" and Math in Mediaeval Kerala
Organization: Electrical Engineering, U of MN, Mpls.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:52:36 GMT

I have heard of Madhavan, a mathematician of ancient Kerala,
 as being the discoverer of Pythagorus theorem.
I read about him in Sasthrakeralam ( a publication
of the Kerala Sastra Sahithya Parishad), when I was in
high school. 

Saptho Nair


Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: kailath@prema.aix.kingston.ibm.com ()
Subject: News from Kerala                        
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 19:33:45 GMT
Expires: References:
Reply_to: kailath@prema.aix.kingston.ibm.com ()
Organization: IBM Corporation, Kingston NY

 Source: India abroad dt. 12/25/92

 Trivandrum - Thopil Bhasi, a prominent playwright and
Communist leader, died after a heart attack at Kayamkulam in
Kerala Dec. 10. He was 68

    Bhasi popularized the Communist movement in the state
through a series of powerful and socially relevent dramas
staged by th leftist Kerala People's Arts Club.

   He complained of chest pain shortly after going to the
club's office at Kayamkulam on Dec. 10, and was taken to a
hospital, where died.

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From: aknair@eng.auburn.edu (Ajit K. Nair)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: The Hindu Digest
Date: 30 Dec 1992 13:32:32 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

This is the reply I got to my mail to the editor of the Hindu digest requesting him not to post the digest in ACK


Ajit
----- Begin Included Message -----

Thank you for your mail regarding Hindu Digest.
I would however, respectfully disagree with your request since
nothing in Hindu Digest is contarary to the charter of
ack (I have read this charter several times to see if 
I was in violation).  Since Hindu dharma is still part of
Keralian culture, Hindu Digest belongs there.  We will
therefore continue to post our digest there.  Those who
do not like, however may easily skip it, rather than
attempt to stiffle our voice.

Thanks again for your mail.

Moderator, Hindu Digest


----- End Included Message -----
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Merry Xmas
Date: 24 Dec 1992 22:22:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu




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Bijoy
From: vallath@vishnu.labs.tek.com (Vallath Nandakumar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Kannagi story
Date: 22 Dec 1992 11:28:33 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Sateesh asked about the story of Kannagi:  It was written about
the 3rd century AD, I think, by Ilangovadigal.  

Kovalan was a very rich guy who married Kannagi, who was very
beautiful.  They live in Puhar, which may be present day
Madras.  Kovalan then falls in love with Madhavi (not sure of the
name) who is a dancer, and loses all his money to her.
He and the long-suffering but dutiful Kannagi go to Madurai,
where Kovalan tries to pawn Kannagi's chilanga, or ankle bracelet.
(Hence the name - Chilappadikaaram, which means Song of the
Ankle Bracelet or some such thing).  Kovalan is suspected of
stealing the ankle bracelet, and he is beheaded.  Kannagi
proves that he was innocent, and in anger, tears off her
breast ( a little weird in modern terms!) and curses the king
and people of Madurai for their injustice.  The last third of
the story takes place in Vanchi, which is in Kerala.  (I know
that there is a song in praise of the King of Travancore which
goes "Vanchi Kripaalini, Vamsa ...", meaning the protector of
Vanchi and the race, but Vanchi may be in central Kerala).  I
don't remember the details, but Kannagi is finally regarded as
a goddess.

Chilappadikaaram is in Old Tamil.  Of course, in
those days, Malayalam and Tamil were much closer, just dialects
of old Tamil probably.  It is also interesting because it
describes old musical instruments and ragas.

Kannagi is available as an Amar Chitra Katha comic book.

Vallath N
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: saptho@ee.umn.edu (Sapthotharan K Nair (grad student))
Subject: Re: A Book on Kerala History
Organization: Electrical Engineering, U of MN, Mpls.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 22:38:55 GMT


I remember seeing a book called 
"In Quest of Kerala" when I was 
about 9 years old. Though my memory
may not be accurate, The book was
like an encyclopedia of Kerala's
history and culture. It had lots of
Illustrations and (I think) was the
first edition. I do not remember the
publisher's or authors name. The reason
for remembering the book may be that it
was an impressive work.
(well, I forgot to tell, It was in 1976
that I saw the book). I think it was published
by someone in kerala (But in English).

Saptho
(SORRY FOR THE INCOMPLETE INFORMATION)
From: tstpcc@gwunix1.gwu.edu (Paul C. Chemmanoor)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Nos Tacemus -- [temples & mosques] -- Icarus. (fwd)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 11:02:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


This message was sent to me by mistake.
I am forwarding it to ack.

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 10:31 EST
From: KVD1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
To: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Re: Nos Tacemus -- [temples & mosques] -- Icarus.

Hi: I am a relativley new reader of this news group. I completely
agree with Paul's views.
One disturbing thing is over the years, although the %age of literacy
has gone up (?) I doubt the same thing with the level of "education".

As to the recent communal riots, this will continue as long as the people
take their religion to the streets. I think this, which is nothing but
the show of their arrogance as a group (religion,caste..), has been
only on the rise all over the country.... And it will take a fundamental
change in people's thinking to turn the situation around.
damodaran
PennState
From: puram@kd2tis.larc.nasa.gov (Dr. Chith K. Puram)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: name of the newsgroup
Date: 31 Dec 1992 08:29:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

did not speak Malayalam distorted the name and we have put up with it.  After all Thiruvananthapuram became and Trivandrum and back to Thiruvananthapura.
I would like to know the reaction of the readers and see if they would like to implement the Malayalam correction in an English address.
Bye now.
Chithrabhanu Puram
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: kochumol@leland.Stanford.EDU (anna geevarghese)
Subject: what shall i call him
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:37:00 GMT




I read a lot of articles regarding the addressing between the spouses.
I never realised the fact that calling `edee' is accepted in our society.
The word or the tone in which it is used is not that matters.
What if I ask you, all the men, how will you feel if your wife
calls you `edaa bharthave' ?

Addressing the wife `edee' shows the attitude of the men in our society.
They feel that a woman is married in to the family to be a subordinate
to everyone in the man's family catering to all of them, work as a servant,
suffer the mother-in-law and the sisters-in-law and in the process of
entering the family bring some caution deposit(as someone had mentioned
in one of his earlier articles). 
The society has to change and feel that all are equal.
Marriages are to share, not to rule.

As said by someone,
`perilenthirikunnu'.

It is what is in your heart that matters, not in the way in which you
address others.

Sorry if I sound rude, I don't intend to be.
I believe in equality at home and in society.

-anna


Anna Susan Geevarghese
704 Campus Drive, Apt. 38H
Stanford, CA 94305.

email : kochumol@leland.stanford.edu
From: sathi@cco.caltech.edu (Narayana Sateesh Pillai)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 04:07:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: arrester.caltech.edu

	Let's not be too hasty, and do something rash.
Granted that we don't like the digest, but we shouldn't
get too uptight about it. If we do, then we will be no 
better than the author of the digest.

TATA!
Sateesh
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From: small.caltech.edu!sathi (Narayana Sateesh Pillai)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: kannagi
Date: 22 Dec 1992 04:43:30 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: small.caltech.edu
Originator: sathi@small

What's the story about Kannagi??????
	I don't know anything about her. Would someone be kind enough
to elaborate?

Thanks in advance

TATA!
Sateesh
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Usenet and its social forces. :-)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:47:07 GMT


I pulled the following article off one of the special groups 
on the usenet devoted to talking about the usenet.
I think it summarizes the way the usenet works.
The usenet in my opinion is the most visible working anarchy.

Understanding the usenet is the first step towards exploiting
its potential as a medium. 

Start of Included Article.
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I see Usenet as a minimally self-regulated anarchy.  Every user _can_ do
anything (If they know how.)  But there is a set of social norms that
constricts them.  They do not want to be punished (by flames, mail-spamming,
ridicule or, worst of all, being ignored) so they tend to do the Right Thing.
There are discussions held on what to do (create a newsgroup, how to use
expiry dates, proper subject labelling etc.), but the decisions are only
recommendations - they are not mandatory.  Some of these decisions are
more rigidly adhered to than other decisions.  In the extreme, there is a
sanctioned way to ignore the decisions (do it in the alt.* hierarchy),
or one can go ahead and do it anyway - eg. forge newgroup messages and so
forth.  The latter course is generally unsuccessful because other people
use the same techniques to undo whatever you do.

	The integrity of the net is protected by equality (everyone is able
to stuff things up as well as everyone else), openess (most things can,
with effort, be traced) and a lack of central control (it is close to 
impossible to hijack the net.  Reminds me of "0-power" groups in Illuminati
[tm Steve Jacson Games] :-).

	Enforce your freedoms!  Vote for anarchy today! ;-)

Ashtray
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: ***ChalaChitra Lookam***
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:00:26 GMT

In article <1hqs6uINN35g@girtab.usc.edu> rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan) writes:

>yhezara(71/2)Ponnana      Jayaram,SaiKumar,Kanakka               ****
>Music: Kaithaprom
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>Kanal Kattu          Mammooty,Murali,Shari,Urvashi              **1/2
>Music: Kaithaprom
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>Maalyogam            Murali,Mukesh,Mammukoya,Oduvil           **1/2
>Music: Kaithaprom

I thought Kaithapram was only a lyricist (poet). Does he really tune songs
for movies too?

Mahesh.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: devkumar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Devakumar Sreevijayan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: keeping ack trash-free)
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:35:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Dec30.221559.10128@beaver.cs.washington.edu> thekkath@june.cs.washington.edu (Chandramohan Thekkath) writes:
>Before things get out of hand, I would like to point out that
>deluging the authors of the Hindu Digest with mail is not very politic.
>They could, in turn, bombard ack with garbage.                         

        I do not think that *they*, meaning the officialdom behind 
the Hindu Digest will deluge the net with garbage--like all self-respecting
fascists, they will take refuge behind starched walls of nauseous decor, while
letting some poor sod do the dirty work. 
        I suggest that such posts be ignored, absolutely and pointedly. After
all, to ignore is the worst affront one can inflict. Besides, it doesn't take
a lot of effort on our part. Their propaganda has so far been artless, and in
an educated forum, its effects are likely to be minimal; if they indeed 
become artful, which I very much doubt, then there is need for swift and
effective response. Until such time, I think we may ignore them. To contribute
towards that end, I hereby refrain from further posts on the subject.

Dev
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Kadammanitta fans?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:53:25 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hi,

I would like to know if there are any Kadammanitta Ramakrishnan fans here?
Could someone please post at least some of his poems like "Kali" Shanta"
etc... Also, I would like to see any of Chullikad's poetry too.

Any ackers listening?

Bijoy

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: scratchy.caltech.edu!sathi (Narayana Sateesh Pillai)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: kristhumasAshamsagal
Date: 24 Dec 1992 23:59:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: scratchy.caltech.edu
Originator: sathi@scratchy



	Have a holly jolly Christmas!!!

P.S. For those of you who have nothing better to do on Christmas except
read ack:
 
	HAVE A VERY SPECIAL CHRISTMAS WITH WARM GREETINGS!!!!!

I'll be here!
TATA!
Sateesh
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		| (818) 564-1225
From: thekkath@june.cs.washington.edu (Chandramohan Thekkath)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Keeping a.c.k. clean & all that jazz.
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:20:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

As a regular reader of this new group, I must say that it has been a great 
relief to note the generally even tenor of postings in this group. Like Sateesh,
Paul, and others, I too am irritated by the recent ``propaganda'' posting.
However, I don't think having a moderated group or sending mail to sysadmins
is the solution. It seems much more in keeping with free speech and open 
mindedness to resort to other solutions. Among the methods others 
have already pointed out, politely and firmly ignoring the poster,
or using a kill file seem preferable. And who knows, some of 
these propaganda postings may engender some vigorous discussion
and debate.


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    {rutgers,cornell,ucsd,ubc-cs,tektronix}!uw-beaver!june!thekkath
From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
Subject: Re: The Tuvans *ARE* coming
Date: 31 Dec 1992 00:11:36 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec29.225256.22510@netcom.com> akkana@netcom.com (Akkana Peck) writes:
>
>Hooray!  But how do I find out where/when they're performing?  The
>Arcadia people seem to be a bit confused about who the Tuvans are
>("Cuban Folk Singers?  Who?") and it's difficult to get any definite
>information out of them ...
>
>Does anyone have a schedule of where they'll be (aside from the Rose
>Parade, which doesn't sound like the optimal venue) and when?

I second that. I'd like to know if they're coming to D.C.

Baryatai,
Corun



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Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: kencham@centi.cs.umn.edu (Deepak Kenchammana-Hosekote)
Subject: Re: The Tuvans *ARE* coming
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:02:43 GMT

For folks like me (in MN), seeing them Tuvans, will be hard. I hope
folks who get to see them, can give the more unfortunate of us a brief
report of the happenings.

Thanks, in advance.

To all readers of alt.culture.tuva, a very happy 1993. Hope '93 will see
the Tuvans visit the heart of the MidWest!

Peace on earth, and with you all.

\gdeepak
--
Everything changes, looking through the eyes of the Kenchammana-Hosekotan.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Tuvans at Rose Bowl Parade -- where were they?
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:05:03 GMT

I didn't notice any Tuvan Horsemen on CTV's coverage of the
Rose Bowl Parade (hosted by Rod Black and Debbi Wilkes!!).
Tons of other horsepeople  -- including the Tanner Appaloosas --
but no Tuvans (unless that was them hanging around the float with
the 3 Muskateers).   Was I just watching the wrong channel?
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