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From: guiyu@spectra.eng.hawaii.edu (Kui Yu Chang)
Subject: SPEED and SPEED your IIsi
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 11:41:14 GMT

For those who still don't know, I just read something here that says by
setting the Disk Cache in Sys7 to 768K, you get faster screen updates on
your Macintosh IIsi because all the RAM in Bank A(where the video memory
is also allocated)will be used-up.

I did an EXPERIMENT immediately and find that the speed-up is IMPRESSIVE!!!

All the machines below have similar system configuration, the IIcx uses a 
standard MacII 8.24 graphics card though.

Machine		Before		After set Cache -> 768K		Speed-up
=======		======		=======================		========
Mac IIcx	5.08 secs	5.08 secs			N.A.
Mac IIsi	8.58 secs	5.08 secs			1.69
Mac IIci	4.63 secs	3.66 secs			1.27

* All the above machines have 5 MB RAM, running the same version of System 7
  and has no INITs.
* ALSO, ALL three machines were tested using the same size window of a 
  fileserver, thus you can also see the relative screen redraws speed of diff.
  machines. I just did a SIMPLE test to time the time taken to scroll this 
  window from top to bottom.
* 8-bit graphics mode used in all cases

**** RESTART your system after the cache setting to see the CHANGE ****

							Sincerely yours,
							Julian CHANG
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From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: * Looking for Audio Input board
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:43:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I seem to be having trouble finding an Audio Input board for my Mac
IIcx. I've looked through all the magazines and the only thing I can
find is the MacRecorder, but it only mentions the software, not the
hardware. I wouldn't assume there's an audio card inthere because of the
Mac IILC, IIsi and Quadra built-in ports. Can anyone tell me what board
I can get? Needs Audio Input/Output in stereo. Does the IIcx output in
stereo? Thanx.

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From: clf3678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.L. Freemesser)
Subject: Re: Tools to open a Classic II???
Originator: clf3678@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.141651.9991@bnr.uk> michthom@bnr.ca (Michael Thomson) writes:
> **************************************************************************
> * Help Wanted!      Macintosh Classic II Access Tools?      Help Wanted! *
> **************************************************************************
>
> Does anyone know what tools are required to open up a Mac Classic II?

You need a Torx screwdrive (T-15) to open up the Classic II.  I have a
Sears magnetic screwdriver kit that came with an extension bar that
allowed me to take out the recessed screws.  Unfortunately, they don't
sell this particular kit anymore, and you are in England.

Let's pretend that you managed to take out the 4 screws.  You will find
that the bottom of the case opens easily, but the top does not.  Many
places sell these "case crackers", which are nothing more than a fancy
pair of spreaders.  I found that a large bladed screwdriver, gingerly
used in strategic places, would spread open the top of the case without
damaging it.

After you take the screws out, place the computer SCREEN DOWN on a nice
soft surface.  Once you have "cracked" the top of the case, just pull
the back of the case up (and off).  Voila!

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From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Subject: Re: What's an EVE Box?
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:24:36 GMT
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <1992Nov6.004417.10354@netcom.com>, lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui)
wrote:
> We have two Mac IIci's here at work with a box between the machine and the
> keyboards. The box is labeled "Eve", but there's no clue to what its
> function is. There's an Eve init file in the system file also.

That's a hardware key from Rainbow Technologies.  Some application on those
machines must require it in order to run.

noah

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noah@apple.com                                 Macintosh Hardware Design
...!{sun,decwrl}!apple!noah   (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
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From: mccarty@vmser.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: RasterOps Paintboard LI
Reply-To: mccarty@vmser.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:51:25 GMT


I am thinking of getting a RasterOps Paintboard LI video board for my IIci.
I'm looking for opinions on this board - send me any feedback including 
comparisons to other boards in the same price range or less ~800.

			Thanks, Bret
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: I want a Powerbook that's powerful!
Keywords: pen, powerbook, color, 040
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:36:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov11.233640.24495
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Nov11.152823.2081@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu  
writes:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a need to purchase a notebook or penbook for meetings that
> is a Mac, has a color screen, is lightweight, and can fax send/receive
> messages (cellular modem/phone).  Also, a pen capability would be ideal.
> 
> Does the Mac make pen machines yet?  Are there color notebooks available?
> I like the Palmpad that GRID makes, so one that size would be great,
> but I want it to be Macintosh, and while I'd like the pen, I'd need the
> modem aspect.
> 
> Is there such a device that anyone knows about or can direct me to?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Pamela Cho-


	Oh, don't we all... Rumor has it that a color version of the PowerBook  
will appear mid to late next year (not with the feb releases). Macintosh does  
not make pen machines, although the not-yet-released Newton might qualify as  
one (its a PDA instead of inventory/form as most GRIDs). Any device the size of  
the palmtop could not be a Macintosh except in name (what's a Mac if not a  
finder, menu bar, icons, etc.). Hopefully Motorola will finally finish the 3V  
version of the 68040 and we'll see a '040 color PowerBook late next year  
(however, I'm not holding my breath...).

--
Robert Seymour				rseymour@reed.edu
Departments of Physics and Philosophy
Artificial Life Project			Reed College
Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR
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From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Subject: Re: Could be a vx's mem-manager problem?
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:44:34 GMT
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <1992Nov7.004830.3568@netcom.com>, bskendig@netcom.com (Brian
Kendig) wrote:
> An init ("Memory Manager") was distributed publically to fix this, but
> the init was buggy itself -- using it would corrupt data and crash systems.

This was never distributed on purpose -- it got out unintentionally.  Due
to the problems Brian mentioned people were recommended strongly to get rid
of it!

noah

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noah@apple.com                                 Macintosh Hardware Design
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From: strange@zk3.dec.com (Steve Strange)
Subject: Re: 25 mHz IIsi--another success story
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
	<1992Nov8.122315.19265@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:12:19

In article <1992Nov8.122315.19265@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory) writes:
   Machines are designed and manufactured according to set engineering specs.
   This has nothing to do with Apple STICKING people for upgrades.

It is common practice to slow a machine down for marketing reasons.
Most computer companies have done this many times.

   My primary concern here is people actually thinking they are "getting a
   free ride" by doing this upgrade and that they are going to be saving
   big bucks by doing it.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

I think a lot of things could be further than the truth than this.
For me, anyway, it is a free ride.  A free lunch.  I couldn't be
happier.  If the machine starts crashing a lot, I'll put a slower
crystal back in, but I doubt this will happen.

In response to an earlier question in this thread, my IIsi is one of
the first manufactured (bought in early Nov. '90), and the upgrade
worked fine.  I haven't checked the speed rating of the motherboard
RAM, but I would guess it's 80 ns.

	Steve
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Distribution: world
From: Michael_E._Costello@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Content-Type: x-uuencode-apple-single
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 09:31:36 EST
Subject: Fwd: PB100 8/40 for sale

Martin,

I found this in a Usenet group. Although you didn't say, I assume you did
better...
---

Powerbook 100 with 8 mb of ram, 40 mb hard drive and HD floppy drive for sale.
Used one month. Like new.

$1300/bo

Please reply by email



Luis A. Cifuentes
Engineering and Public Policy Department
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
lcifuentes+@andrew.cmu.edu

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From: andreasm@cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Slow IBM Harddisk in IIvx
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:10:23 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: humphrey.cs.tu-berlin.de

I am very disapointed, that the quality of the peripherals in the macs
is getting lower and lower.

OK, my IIvx is ugly. I knew that before.
I didn't know before that the vx has only a 16MHz Bus speed, otherwise
I would had buy a ci.

But I cannot understand, why they take these slow IBM internal harddisks.
Speedometer 3.1 gave this Harddisk a 1.98.
The same test with an external Quantum LPS240 showed a 3.2.

The point is, that in the past the Macs, where high-quality fast machines.
They had not the fastest CPU's, but the other components where always fitting to the rest. Now they put in a fast CPU and try to save money on the peripherals.

Seems to be my last Mac.
A disapointed user.
From: craigw@fnal.fnal.gov (Craig Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Hanging Q900 and IIg (not related)
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:14:48 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Fermilab - Batavia, IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnpm02.fnal.gov


We are having two different problems recurring frequently these days.

The first is a Q900 which seems to hang only with the processor cache on,
even when merely using control panels like General or Monitors. (20MB RAM,
7.0.1 TUNEUP, Radius monitor w/ Dynamic Desktop Software off internal
video) I recently removed SAM (symantec anti virus) and put in Virex (3.82
i believe) and it hasn't hung yet. Has anyone else experienced similar
difficulties??

Second, is our Laserwriter IIg. We keep getting postscript errors that hang
printer. It is on appletalk only. Same documents print fine on our NTX.
Both have same fonts installed, however, the NTX does have a HD. Sorry I
can't be more specific here (haven't kept as good notes as the Q problem)
Please let me know if you *know* anything, and I'll definately find out.

Please respond by email, I'll summarize (like all good netters) if
necessary...
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From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:30:31 EST
Subject: Re: AIM Alliance

I don t know if anyone has posted information about the PowerPC 601, but I
just got some and I thought I would share it. Here it comes:

   120 square millimeter (very important since small area = low price)
   2,8 million transistors
   0.6  m/3.6 V
   40/60 integer/floating point specmarks at 50 Hz
   50/80 integer/floating point specmarks at 66 Hz
   flip-chip instead of bonding
   64 bit, but 32 bit compatible
   superscalar
   3 independent execution units (branch, integer, floating point)
   32 kbyte unified cache
   MMU

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*                   Jan-Olov Lantto - Research Engineer                   *
*                    Dept. of Electrical Power Systems                    *
*                    Chalmers University of Technology                    *
*                       S-412 96, Goteborg, SWEDEN              

________________________________________________ZOWIEE!!!!!
Gentlemen (and women) ..... start your engines!!!
Joe C.
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From: Dave Clark <dclark@ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Max Memory for a Mac II
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:44:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego - IGPP
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: daveman.ucsd.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
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X-XXDate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:51:37 GMT

In article <40791@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Steven L. Hopper, hopper@cs.ucsd.edu
writes:
>fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski) writes:
>
>>In article <noah-041192152509@noah.apple.com> noah@apple.com (Noah
Price) writes:
>>#In article <1d8vluINN57c@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, wjb@cscsun2.larc.nasa.gov
>>#(William J. Bene) wrote:
>
>>True or False: The SuperDrive upgrade is not necessary to add the
special
>>PAL 4MB SIMMs to one of the Mac II's memory banks, giving 20MB total.
>
>>My answer was "True", based on my last reading of the M.M.C. TN. 
>
>
>
>
>I have a MacII with 20MB installed (I also have 5 NUBUS cards installed)
and
>am able to access all 20MBs.  I don't have the SuperDrive/ROM upgrade
either.
>
>You only need to install MODE32 (& Sys 7) to access the extra memory.
>
>BTW, the PAL-4MB SIMMS are installed in 4 sockets at the left, and the
1MB
>SIMMS are installed in the right-most 4 sockets.

I had a user with a Mac II, and 4- 1MB and 4- 4MB SIMMs w/PAL, running
system 7 w/mode32 init set to 32bit at all times, rev B MLB.  No PMMU, no
superdrive ROMs.  Without refreshing my memory from notes, I seem to
recall being unable to get past the system diagnostics on restart after
loading in 4MB SIMMs in one of the banks, and being unable to access >8MB
RAM total with the 4MB SIMMs in the other bank.  The requirements
according to our campus bookstore tech was that the ROMs were needed, and
in fact this did the trick.  No PMMU.  This sucker did cause me
considerable hassles.  And it was the dep't chairman's secretary's mac,
of course...
Steve, I believe you were instrumental in helping out with this same mac.
 Thanks, even though I can't explain why yours _does_ work!!!

Dave Clark
IGPP Network Operations
University of California San Diego
La Jolla, CA 92093-0225
(619) 534 1753
internet: dclark@ucsd.edu
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From: raj@gdstech.grumman.com (Rajesh Chawla)
Subject: How to hook a DeskJet 500 to a Mac IIci
Organization: GRUMMAN DATA SYSTEMS
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:41:45 GMT


Hi,

I just bought a MacIIci and now I want to hook my HP DeskJet 500 to
it.  I found software drivers for a deskjet in the info-mac archives.
Has anyone used these drivers?

Also if you have any idea where I can get a cable to hook the printer
to the Mac I would appreciate a pointer.

Lastly, I remember seeing an ad for a piece of hardware that made a
DeskJet look like an AppleWriter to a Mac.  This hooked onto the
printer itself and interpreted the codes from the Mac.  If anyone
could give me a pointer on this I would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,


-- 
==================================================================
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E-Mail:  raj@gdstech.grumman.com	Suite 500
Phone:	(703) 713-4170	FAX: 713-4103	Herndon VA 22071
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From: sead@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU (Sead Mujushi)
Subject: Magnified image to large color monitor : info needed
Reply-To: sead@mundoe.UUCP (Sead Mujushi)
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Melbourne
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:50:31 GMT

I am looking for a way to connect a large color monitor (say 26 inches) to
one or more of our macs, (LC/IIsi/IIci).  This is to be used as a display to
a small grouyp of students during lectures.  I have looked into datashows
and the like, (we have a black/white datashow in the department, but color
is too expensive).  I have the pin connections of the mac monitor out, and I
have not as yet managed to connect it to a large color monitor used in the
department. Does somebody have any info on:

a) A large color monitor that will readily do the above.

b) A "black box" that will combine with a LCM to get color output on the
department monitor (it is a pal model with scart/video-in/rgb connectors).

c) Some connection that will connect the department LCM to a mac.

d) Any helpful advice on connecting a mac to a large color monitor.

If you can help me, email me at sead@mundoe.maths.mu.oz.au

Thankyou.
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From: koo@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (chee kian koo)
Subject: Speedometer Disk Access
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:11:11 GMT

It seems to me that the Speedometer don't even test the drive on 
my machine. The disk has about 40MB of the 80MB disk space for it
to create the 1MB temp file

Does anyone out there has any clue ?


CheeKian koo


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From: josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric)
Subject: Epson-based Mac Products 3.5" Optical (comments?)
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:46:27 GMT


Does anyone have experience with Mac Products Magic 128Mb Turbo Epson
Optical (3.5") drive?  Their MOST-based mechanism got good reviews, 
but it has been discontinued (for now) in favor of this Epson-based
unit.  Epson mechanism spins faster (3600 RPM vs. 2400) and thus
offers 50% higher data rates, also, the claimed MTBF is longer
(150,000 hours for Epson vs. 100,000 hours for MOST).  Comments, anyone?

Josip Loncaric
<josip@src.umd.edu>

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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: Why overpay for Mac?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Chicago IL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:06:21 GMT

In article <6177@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>, ggonzale@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
(Gabriel Gonzalez) wrote:
> 
> I would recommend you a Mac because it's a MAC. No questions asked.

Now, I'm not familiar with this thread, so this may be old news, but
the statement above requires a response. This is exactly the attitude
that keeps companies like Apple and Microsoft going. Just because
something is established does not make it the best. If you want a
low end computer, Mac is fine. But I would hope that nobody would
be so foolish as to buy a Quadra when NeXT is making computers that
are much better for less money. If you want a workstation, don't
buy a PC on steroids, go for the real thing. A Quadra is fast, but
it's still crippled by the Mac OS, which is only a step above
windows as far as being a jury-rigged hack for high-power computing.
"No questions asked" ????  This is NEVER an intelligent policy. Ask
questions! Find out what's the best deal for your money! Just because
Apple has more to spend on advertising (or Microsoft) does NOT make
them the best, just the standard. You owe it to yourself to at least
check into the alternatives, some of which may be much better.

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

                If mercy's in business I wish it for you-        
             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.
From: okabe@unixg.ubc.ca (Ian Okabe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook accelerators??
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:49:56 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: kynok.ucs.ubc.ca

Has anyone ever thought of doing some kind of accelerator for a Powerbook
100. Since the main cpu is on a daughterboard, wouldn't it be fairly
easy. Just curious.
-- 
Ian T. Okabe (okabe@unixg.ubc.ca)
Atmospheric Sciences, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada
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