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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: UK AND/OR UL
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:41:31 GMT

In article <380.149.uupcb@tfd.gwinnett.com> judy.lococo@tfd.gwinnett.com (Judy Lococo)  writes:
>   The above opinions are blond.  No one else can take the credit or
>the blame.

But are these opinions blond on purpose, or were they just born that way? =^) 

>               Judy L.
>
> * 1st 1.01 #650 * Let me make you an offer you can't reuse.
>
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Who's Number 2?
Organization: American Math. Society
	<ASH.93Jan4084025@ulysses.mr.ams.com> <79022@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:11:14 GMT

In article <79022@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:

  >In article <ASH.93Jan4084025@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
  >>
  >>Louisville doesn't belong in the list.  
  >Well, they did according to the opinions of the voters at the time the game 
  >was played.  Not that I expect it to happen, but what if Kansas and/or North
  >Carolina take a nosedive and lose for the rest of the season.  Would that
  >remove the luster of the Michigan wins against them, at this point in their 
  >seasons?  Hardly.

I believe that it would remove the luster.  IMO, if a team is
overrated, a win against that team is no better than a win against
that team's rightfully lower rating.  Now, if a team takes a nosedive
due to injuries or because Dick Vitale doesn't like them anymore,
that's another story altogether.

   >>Georgia Tech can't compare to UNC or Kansas.  

   >No, but Indiana is (or was) in that same class.

True.

   >>And the reason they haven't been defeated yet is that
   >>UK hasn't played at Duke.  

   >Or perhaps the reason that Duke is still undefeated is that they 
   >haven't played at Kentucky yet, either.

I hope that's true.

   >Just another perspective.

   >>Nevertheless, I believe the polls will
   >>put UM at #3, UK at #2.  Who will be #4?

   >The latest AP poll isn't out yet (or if it is I haven't seen it),
   >but the CNN/USA Today poll now has:

   >1.  Duke
   >2.  Kentucky
   >3.  Michigan
   >4.  Indiana
   >5.  North Carolina
   >6.  Kansas
   >7.  Seton Hall
   >8.  Iowa
   >9.  Purdue
   >10. Oklahoma

   >according to the usa.today.sports newsgroup.

Wow, four Big 11 teams in the top ten?  I wonder how long *that* will
last.  If UM beats Purdue this week, then it'll probably be down to
three, but if Purdue wins, we'll see four for another week.

-Alan Harder                
 Go Blue!                   

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?

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From: grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy)
Subject: Clemson Stomps Duke
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:52:32 GMT

Not!  It was worse than last year!  And last year they lost by 39 in
Cameron.  And I thought it was going to be competitive, even if I knew
my Tigers would lose.

What a night.  I had to listen to this game on the radio, and I was
alternately nearly driven to tears and cursing the heavens declaring
"There is no God!"

Duke thrashed the Tigers every way possible, and the Tigers slunk home
on the short end of a 43 point loss, 110-67.  Duke led several times
during the game by as much as 50.  For most of the game Duke doubled
Clemson's score.

The game was close in the first 10 minutes, as the Tigers stayed with
Duke 10-12.  Both sides committed 4 turnovers in the first four minutes,
but no one seemed able to capitalize.  Then Duke got with it, and the
Tigers apparently gave up.  Five minutes later it was over, and by
halftime it was 57-23.  Clemson's backcourt was less than useless, and
the frontcourt wasn't much better.  The two phrases I heard over and
over and over..."[Tiger] up with the shot, no good, grabbed out of there
by Duke" and "_Another_ unforced turnover by the Tigers."  The starting
guards Chris Whitney and Andre Bovain combined for only 3-17.

The second half was pretty much the same as the first.  Meek fouled out
after playing only seven minutes.  But then Clemson's Sharon Wright
followed him a minute later.  The only bright spot for the Tigers was
soph forward Devin Gray, who doesn't know the meaning of the word quit.
He led all scorers with 25 points (9-16, 3-4, and an uncharacteristic
4-5 from 3 point range).

Totals:
Clemson 24-72, 13-26 (33%, 50%)
Duke 41-72, 21-30 (57%, 70%)
3-point goals:
  Clemson 6-21 (Gray 4-5, Kelly 1-3, Whitney 1-7, Wallace 0-1, Brown
0-2, Bovain 0-3)
  Duke 7-16 (Hurley 3-6, Collins 2-4, T. Hill 2-5, Clark 0-1)
Rebounds
  Clemson 40 (Wright 9), Duke 46 (Clark 8)
Assists
  Clemson 9 (Whitney 5), Duke 18 (Lang 4)

The numbers show that the Tigers simply failed to make good of their
opportunities.  Their weak schedule (3rd weakest in the nation) simply
failed to prepare them for Duke, and probably a lot of other ACC teams.
 
Duke takes on Tech this weekend, and the Tigers have a week off before
traveling to Virginia before coming home to face UNC.
 
Clemson's only other non-conference game this year is Feb. 6 at USC.
The SEC team stunned Tennessee last night 95-85.

Mike Percy             | grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu  | I don't know about
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From: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:27:54 GMT
Reply-To: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: rdarnese@c00732-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu


   Can anyone post a game summary..I missed it.

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Objects of Disgust
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:02:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1993Jan7.221200.28628@news.acns.nwu.edu> marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski) writes:
>  Incidentally, Texan chilies (many varieties, including the truly
>unpalatable World Championship Chili Cook-off chili) are considered
>disgusting in New Mexico, and vice versa.  I like New Mexico food, actually.

Actually, almost EVERYTHING from Texas is considered disgusting to
New Mexicans, as I discovered when I lived in Albuquerque.  Including 
their basketball, I suppose.

>Personally, I don't understand why anyone would waste their sweet young
>short life eating chili if they can eat Indian or Thai or Vietnamese...

Amen to that.  Especially Indian.

Maybe they don't eat Indian in Indiana!

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From: markham@brtph597.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Organization: BNR Inc. RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:46:15 GMT

Robert Burgin writes:
>Orin Day writes:
>>Mike Dunnagan writes:
>>>
>>> Duke ran it's non-conference home winning streak to 77 games Monday
>>> night,  holding off an emotional Oklahoma squad 88-84 in overtime.
>> 
>> That streak is amazing.
>
>	Exactly how amazing is it?
>
>	Does anyone know if it is the longest current non-conference
>	home winning streak?  If it is the longest ... ever?
>
>	How do other top teams compare?  Indiana lost to non-conference
>	foe Kansas at home this year, for example.  When was the last
>	non-conference home loss by Kansas?  Kentucky?  UNC?  Michigan?

UNC last non-conference home loss?

I was going to guess Temple's crushing defeat of the Heels (83-66) on 
Feb. 21, 1988, when Mark Macon lit us up.

Turns out it was Iowa (98-97) on Jan. 7, 1989.

P.S.  They must have started slow in the first half and then coudn't
      catch up. ;^)

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Aussie at U of Maine
From: baragry@amdahl1.lat.oz.au (Jason Baragry)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:01:34 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University, Australia

G'Day,

	A mate of mine is playing for U of Maine (near Boston) and I want to
find out how he's going. His name is Simon Mitchell and he's a 6-1 PG.

I'm pretty sure it's only a 2nd div college but apparently he's doing well
(made all-star 5 in tournament they played in recently).


Anybody heard of him ??

thanks,

Jason.
From: titlow@zephyr.larc.nasa.gov (jay titlow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UNC effect???
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:48:07 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zephyr.larc.nasa.gov

Keywords: 

The UNC effect may have some credence for hoops(after attending several
ACC tournaments, UNC is the school everybody loves to hate), but for other
sports it simply isn't true.  Beating UNC in football is an afterthought
for a number of teams in the ACC of late.  In fact, the team everybody in
the ACC loves to hate in football is Clemson.  The ingredients for being
the team to hate seem to have a greater dependence on how successful the
program is, and how "cocky" and "obnoxious" their fans become after a few
years of success.  Personally, the Duke program and their fans were a 
pleasure to watch during coach K's first few years, but lately the operation
is getting a little old.  As an NC State grad, I've taken more pleasure in
our victories over Duke than UNC(of course that hasn't happened for awhile).

Dean has always said that Carolina fans are above the others by not yelling
"BULLSH-T" after bad calls, and not waving their arms behind the basket when
opponents shout free-throws.  This "martyr" approach does make one feel like
losing their lunch, but maybe the focus shouldn't be on Carolina.  I'd call it
NY Yankee-Dallas Cowboy-Notre Dame effect... it seems people either love'em or
hate'em.
From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:47:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <XJAM.93Jan9004438@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>
>>>>>> On 5 Jan 93 22:17:54 GMT, kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) said:
>
>  Ken> Also, the two losses were in New Jersey.  Cal's first 5 games were all
>  Ken> in the SF Bay Area with a lot of Cal fans at each game.  I watched the
>  Ken> game against JMU and there was no energy at all in the building.
>  Ken> I think Cal would have played better with a loud home crowd rooting
>  Ken> against them.
>
>What a crock of crap. There is absolutely no excuse for losing to Cornell
>other than that the coach can't coach. If you need a crowd to get you fired
>up at this level (home or away) you've got a problem.

I agree that Cal should have beaten Cornell, but there were plenty
of legitimate excuses:

1. Jason Kidd was injured and did not play
2. KJ Roberts cannot run an offense or shoot well as a point guard
3. Brian Hendrick was injured
4. Jerod Haase was 1-9 from the field
5. With Hendrick out, this team is all Freshmen and Sophomores

In the next article:
>Well Ken thanks for explaining how in the world Cal could lose to two poor
>excuses for Division I programs. (JMU has subsequently lost to American
>University and Cornell is Ivy League for goodness sake). I've been on
>vacation so I can't do my typical ranting about how Campanelli can't coach
>but I have two words that typify my feelings on his style:
>
>Billy Dreher

And what was wrong with Billy Dreher?  
Who would you have put out there instead of him?

Campanelli isn't perfect, but he's a damn good recruiter and coach.
I've been going to Cal games for 25 years.  It used to be that a good
season was 13-14 with a "big" wins over USC and Stanford.  

Now Cal fans are disappointed if we only make it to the NIT.
Cal has beaten the likes of Indiana, Villanova, UCLA, and Arizona
with Campanelli in charge.  I wish Cal had as good a football coach.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: Memphis State's Anfernee Hardaway
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:23:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.092947.4981@memstvx1.memst.edu> emgarcia@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>     Memphis State's Anfernee "Penny " Hardaway earned the honor of being

How did he get the nickname "Penny?"



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From: kmill@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Kent Milligan)
Subject: Big 10 Stats???
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 14:39:08 GMT
Reply-To: kmill@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

I'm trying to organize a Big 10 Fantasy Bball league for the upcoming season and I'm trying to
find a publication of some sorts that will have all of the necessary Big 10 stats (points,
rebounds, assists, etc.) that comes out on a weekly or biweekly basis.  My local papers only
give the "points" boxscore along with rebound and assist leaders.  I know quite a few
subscribers type in great game summaries, but I wouldn't be able to get them for all of the
Big 10 teams.  Thanks in advance.





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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: foerster@batgirl.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Re: Rasheed Wallace status?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 11:42:10 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1993Jan7.191003.5707@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph597.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
|> Anyone has heard anything about Rasheed Wallace lately?
|> 
|> I know he narrowed down his list to 4 (UNC, Ohio State, Villanova and 
|> Georgetown - I think), but haven't heard anything else (except from a 
|> reliable source that mentioned he is leaning heavily the 'Nova way).
|> 
|> Also, what are the dates governing when players can announce in the spring?
|> 
|> -- 
|> Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
|> Bell Northern Research, Inc.

They can verbally commit at any time but they have 2 actual signing periods. 
One in the fall and one in the spring. The fall period is typically mid-November.
This year it was November 11-18. The spring signing period is mid-April, right
after the Final Four. 

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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA/Arizona
Keywords: Quick summary
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:10:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

I also watched this game on ESPN, and thought I would throw out my $0.02.

(1)  O'Bannon can score.  29 points and lookin' good.  He is everything he
     was hyped up to be way back before the knee.
(2)  Stoudamire (Damon, not Antouine) is the best point in the Pac Ten.
(3)  Reeves hasn't improved much--he still gets lost for stretches, but he
     can turn it on for short bursts.
(4)  Mills had a lot of points (25+), but they sure seemed to come quietly.
(5)  Edney is incredible on the break, but can't run set offense for sh*t.
(6)  Nice game by Stokes, especially defensively on Petruska.  He showed a
     sweet baseline move I've never seen him use before out of the post and
     threw a couple of nice passes to Mills from the high post.
(7)  Where the hell was Tarver?

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen)
Subject: Coaches Ties (was Re: Trash talking %^$#@*)
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:25:14 GMT

Marek Lugowski's (marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) nine more 
serious problems list included :

>7. the coaches wearing ties and suits as if they were 
>working for a living.

which reminds me of a story.

When Virginia played some Ivy league school several years ago
several observant members of the UVaFCI/OMB&CSR (Pep Band) noticed
that the visiting coach did not have a tie. As the obnoxious
tie is a fine tradition of the Band, these members proudly
offered the coach the loan of one of their own ties. The
coach politely thanked the band members but turned down the
offer saying that Ivy League coaches don't get paid enough
money to justify wearing ties.


Micah Rosen    ******      Univ. of Virginia B.S. Architecture 1990 "Go Hoos"
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From: jgw@acpub.duke.edu (JAMES WELCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Trivia - woof - anti-woof
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:26:48 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


I read in the "little" Durham Morning "paper" that the longest current
winning streak belongs to UNLV at 29 games, the second to Duke at 23 games,
and in third place is .... (aw I'll let you guess) :-)

Anybody know ?


I'll add that I'd take our 23 wins over UNLV's 29 anytime.  One of those
wins being our second straight National Championship, something UNLV wouldn't
know about.


Okay, now that I've come out of my shell to publicly gloat and take a swipe
at our good buddies on the left coast, I to have to admit that Tech will 
beat the living hell out of us (Can I actually anti-woof after the above ?).


Jim Welch
Threepeat!  Threepeat!  Threepeat!


PS  I cannot believe what at thug that Grant Hill is :-)
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Lotsa Stuff
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:12:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

In article 726344651@base.cs.ucla.edu, matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>    I challenge most any conference to send 5 first-round picks to the NBA
>    and have an "up" year,
> 
> "most any" meant "all but the top two or three".  I was actually thinking
> that the ACC is one of the few conferences which seems to have good years
> even after sending a bunch of talent to the pros (as do the Big Ten and
> SEC).
I am certain that Scott Davis will fill in the blanks but,  the Big 8
sent a number of 1st round choices to the NBA & was still very good
last year.  

The choices were:  Rich King Neb,  Mark Randall KU, Askew ISU, Vandiver CU,
Doug Smith MU.  I assume OU had someone taken in the first round.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen)
Subject: Last GT win over Duke (Re: Duke-Tech game)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:52:35 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1993Jan7.210625.12784@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mpollak@oracle.uucp (Maximilian Pollak) writes:
> I would be extremely surprised if GT won.  Year in and year out, it seems that the Yellow Jackets fall to the Devils.  I can't remember the last time GT beat Duke.  Was it four years ago?

Actually, I think it was in the 90 ACC tourney, when the Jackets won it.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: The Quality of this Group
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:24:12 GMT

In article <C0IqEq.9FB@ucunix.san.uc.edu> mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore) writes:
>>
>>If by "quality" you mean a lack of stupid woofing and flame wars, then yes,
>>it has gone up. Personally, I miss the old flame wars over transitivity on
>>the r.s.f.c. newsgroup! ;)
>
>Once FSU lives up to its potential your comments will be acknowlegded....

Are you talking about FSU's football team or the basketball team?

>
>
>
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