HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:50:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul30.035010.16352
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul29.093026.47@math.ucla.edu> barry@saticoy.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
>>weights for longer. You might try stacking it with a product called
>>E.P.H. 833. If you're a light sleeper, you might find the Dymeta-
>
>Is there any noticable difference between EPH 833 and 
>Dymetradine? I just ordered some Dym., and plan to alternate it
>with caffeine. How does it compare to caffeine?

You can buy ephedrine at your local pharmacy; it's probably a lot
cheaper than any such brand name as "Dymetadrine".  I might be a bit
concerned by its effects on blood pressure and heart rate during exercise,
though you can probably assess its effect on your heart rate yourself.

It wouldn't surprise me if caffeine and ephedrine were supra-additive
in their stimulant effects.  Of course, both are "doping" agents
screened for in competition.


-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Re: Heart rates...
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:10:37 GMT

In article <weRhzKK00WB2E98qkG@andrew.cmu.edu> ls3c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Laurence D. Silverman) writes:
>All,
>
>I know everyone's is different, but I'm curious to hear what everyone's
>at-rest heart-rate is (and age, also).
>
>-Lar

Well I just made a simple (yet probably inaccurate) ten second reading after
I read your post, and my heartrate was about 45-50 beats per minute.
When I am on the stairmaster, my heartrate is usually about 160 bpm.
I am 21.

Luther
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to my Powerlifting Sig
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:49:29 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <f=sxaqb@rpi.edu> cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini) writes:
>
>Will you 2 girly-men give it a rest!
>
>We all know I could kick both your asses!
>
>Ron

Prove it, you wimp!  :-)

Do you want to armwrestle me too?  We should have a bench/squat/armwrestling
competition.  :-)

							-Adam

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     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
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From: peizer@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Adele Peizer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: * mistake/crick
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:22:17 GMT
Reply-To: peizer@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Adele Peizer)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In misc.fitness, yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.115158.5982@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed
>Crick (CD)) writes:
>> Obviously you also need to get out more.
>>
>>Ed
>
>Its interesting to see that the person who is claiming that evryone needs to
>get out more, immediately follows up a post from someone else. Maybe you are
>the one that needs to get out more.

Oh, let's all get out more. ;-)
From: cline+@cs.cmu.edu (Kenneth Cline)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: FAQ: Vitamin advice?
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:48:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul29.144825.199112
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Jul28.132458.25074@rosevax.rosemount.com> billodo@cyclone (Bill O'Donnell) writes:
>diet, does a healthy 28-34 year old person need a vitamin supplement?

The official medical advice is no, you do not need supplements.
However the majority of medical professionals (doctors, nurses) take
supplements anyway.  My suggestion is that you use an inexpensive
multivitamin/mineral supplement (Theragran-M, One-a-Day, generic,
etc.) which will make up any micronutrient deficiencies in your diet,
and eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables.

If you want, get a popular book on living forever and try to sort out
the crackpot ideas from the useful.  Rely on scientific references to
determine the safety of supplements, and be aware that contamination
is always a possibility (as happened with tryptophan).  Anti-oxidant
nutrients are showing promise at preventing some diseases.  Vitamins C
and E, and Beta-Carotene are examples are examples of of anti-oxidants
that are safe to take in high doses.

Ken
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From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: .   wait how long between warm-up and real set?
Reply-To: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 20:14:36 GMT


How long should you wait after a warm-up set before your
first "real" set when lifting? I usually wait about 90 seconds
between real sets when benching, curling, etc... but should
you wait that long after warming up?

My warm-up sets are usually about 75% the weight and 80% the reps
of what I use for my real sets.

-- 
          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Vitamin advice?
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:26:46 GMT


In a previous article, billodo@cyclone (Bill O'Donnell) says:

>I'm soliciting advice on vitamins.  I do some running, weight training,
>bicycling, and golf... 3-5 times per week. Besides a decent
>diet, does a healthy 28-34 year old person need a vitamin supplement?
>If so, what kind, brand, etc? I have tried a multiple from Nutrition
>World, but I'm not yet convinced that I really need it.

Time recently ran an article on vitamins.  General Nutrition Center
(GNC) stores distribute free reprints of said article, so you might want
to look it up.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: mick washburn
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:26:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul29.142659.287101
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

>God, what a lesbo.


Does your father know you're using his account?
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to my Powerlifting Sig
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:47:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.201052.2762@bnr.ca> Reg Foulkes writes:
>In article <14613@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>
>>
>>Do you want to armwrestle me too?  We should have a bench/squat/armwrestling
>>competition.  :-)
>>
>>							-Adam
>
> How about bench/squat/armwrestling/legwrestling competition. I'll win the 
>two that Adam looses.
>
>--------------------------------
>Reg Foulkes                             Bell-Northern Research
>riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca           2745 Iris Street
>Telephone :(613) 763-4131     Ottawa, Ontario., Canada  K1Y 4H7

Was that 2 supposed to be a 4?

Ron
p.s. I make no claims to be able to win 'em though...
p.p.s. But I am pretty good at armwrestling (when my wrist ain't
        acting up.)

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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Legumes and grain not a great combination?
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:36:09 GMT



I recently scanned an article in a muscle mag (I don't recall the title)
which said that contrary to popular opinion, combining legumes and
rice/corn does not provide a lot of protein.  Supposedly, it does
provide a substantial amount of complete protein, but it also entails 
consuming massive amounts of carbohydrates.

Does anyone have more info on this?
 
-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: rommel@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Rommel Raj)
Subject: Re: love handles
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.210348.17369@leland.Stanford.EDU> apte@leland.Stanford.EDU (R Apte) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.201950.255311@cs.cmu.edu> 
>kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>[regarding  exercises to remove fat from the kidneys]
>
>>If you have a bar to hang from, you can do alternating side frog lifts, or,
>>if your abs are strong enough, straight alternating side leg lifts.  But
>>your abs REALLY have to be strong.  Or, you could lie on your back and
>>simulate side frog lifts on the groung, although this is better done
>>on a bench.  V-crunches are also good; because you're working muscles
>>above the waist, you're killing two birds with one stone.
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that there is any evidence that
>localized weight loss can be had by working the muscle under the fat.
>If you want to loose intramuscular fat, then by all means do the lifts 
>or crunches.  But if your handles are normal, subcutaneous fat then you are 
>out of luck.  Most of what I have read indicates that fat cells release fat 
>on a first-in last-out basis, so eat less fat and keep your metabolism
>high--

Whatever you do, DON'T do any exercises that will develop those
obliques!  I've read that those muscles develop quite easily with
exercise so this is something you'll probably want to avoid.
Interestingly enough, there was a time when development of the
obliques was admired by some.  Now, any protrusion from the waistline
is frowned upon whether it is muscle or fat.

Thankfully, for many of us it is fat (ever try to actively decrease
the size of a muscle?) and can be eliminated (albeit
slowly) by eating less fat and increasing your metabolism through
exercise as Apte wrote.  Remember: There is no such thing as spot
reduction.  It took me a year to get rid of my love handles.  
Now I'm patiently working on acquiring some definition on my abs . . .

Mike
From: pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt-x8236)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Anyone Use a Treadmill?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:59:50 GMT
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.

In article <Jul.23.11.07.42.1992.27511@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>Could anyone recommend a good treadmill, preferably with incline/
>decline, heart rate monitor, and also nicely programmable?
>I'm a 240+ lb bodybuilder, so it should be somewhat rugged.

You didn't say anything about cost....

The choice of clubs these days seems to be the Precor M9.5. This treadmill
will go up to between +12% and -3% elevation and, I believe, 0-12mph. It has a
manual mode where the user can alter the speed by 1mph increments and
elevation by 1% increments. It also has a "program" mode where the machine
will alter its elevation at .05 mile intervals, with or without "appropriate"
adjustments to the speed as the elevation changes.

The Precor must be at least $2,000. There's no pulse reader.

>Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

--phil
From: star@ut-emx.uucp (Susan Catharine Starrett)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: More on tofu
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:05:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.022707.12088@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
> 
> 	Does anyone know if there's any nutritional difference between
> the various kinds of tofu (soft, firm, extra-firm, etc)?


The firmer the tofu, the higher the percentage of fat from calories.

Regards.
Susan
From: cbnewse.cb.att.com!gmark@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: wrestling/Adam Silver
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:55:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <14598@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.202918.89391@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU 
(Kathi Iannamico) writes:
> >I read all the arm wrestling info, and was wondering if the following
> >exercise would be beneficial:
> >
> >Let's say you hook some weight on the top of a cable machine, then
> >with a bench in front of you, sit with your shoulder to the cable,
> >pull the weight down until you're in a seated or kneeling position
> >on the floow, and your elbow is on the bench, then pull down the weight.
> >(simulating the arm wrestling position)
> >
> >What do you think?
> 
> The idea is very good, Kathi.  The one problem is that the cable is too 
angled
> on a cable machine like that.  If I can figure out a way to have the cable
> fairly level with my arm, then it's a great exercise.  It's still best to
> actually practice with a person because the motion is closer to 
armwrestling
> than what a machine can give.  Plus, I need to be able to have tension on
> my wrist at different angles to simulate armwrestling.  I don't know any
> machines that can do this.

I've used seated cable machines (the ones for lat/lumbar work -- cable
pulley is near the floor) for this.  Some gyms don't have the darn 
things anchored, tho', so you might have to use some ingenuity for
significant weights.  You can also flex your wrist to get some of the
effect of wrist rolls.  Using one arm at a time on the Nautilus bicep
machine helps too.  Not quite an armwrestling simulation, but give it
a try.

GMS
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
Subject: sitting hurts thigh
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
Distribution: misc
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:22:01 GMT


For several weeks, I have found it is uncomfortable to sit down on hard chairs
because my right thigh hurts. It is not extremely painful, but 
uncomfortable enough that it is hard for me to sit for very long without
pillows. It all means I can't sit on the toilet for very long.

I have a sedentary lifestyle, which I am now taking steps to change and maybe
that will clear it up. I saw a doctor who, after prescribing some expensive
tests, had no ideas and thereupon felt he had discharged his obligations.
I am unable to decide whether it is the tendons that are uncomfortable or
whether it is maybe poor circulation which gets cut off, or neither.
If anyone has experienced or heard of this before, please let me know.

Allan Adler
ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Recommended low-fat main courses
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:12:48 GMT



I just remembered another cherished low-fat main dish of mine with all
the essential amino acids in high proportions: succotash!  I boil my own
lima beans (a real chore, unfortunately), and then mix the still-hot
beans with slightly-thawed corn kernels.  Sometimes I add a small dash
of soy sauce (I love soy).  I mix the lima beans and corn in more or
less equal amounts.  The quality will depend partly on how well you boil
your beans.  

When I cook the stuff, I usually refer to it as "suffering succotash".

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: usscoop1@bnr.ca (Chuck McCusker P015)
Subject: Re: MUSCLE MEMORY!!!!!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:24:30 GMT

In article <1682B7058.TAC@ysub.ysu.edu>, TAC@ysub.ysu.edu (Troy Allen Cross) writes:
|> I am wondering how others have changed their workout as they get older and
|> more experienced ;-) at lifting weights.
|>
I'm not really old but I have changed my workouts because of soreness
in my joints. I have tendonituos?(sp) in my left elbow and my shoulders
get sore (especially my right) when I lift heavy. I lift a light to moderate
weight for 5 sets of 25,20,20,15,15 reps. I'll do a set of 10 at a higher
weight if the last set of 15 doesn't kill me. BTW I'm 28.

Chuck Ross - not a weightlifter, just a wannabe.
From: westendorf@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: SCDOWN
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:13:27 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

 I'm in the process of buying a exercise bicycle.  Does anyone out there
know if a bike with air tension is better than a bike with regular tension.
Also, any bikes I should stay away from.  or bikes that are recommended.
Thanks

-Mary
From: "ryan nyberg" <ryan.nyberg@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: sunscreens
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:07:58 EST
Reply-To: "ryan nyberg" <ryan.nyberg@execnet.com>
Distribution: misc
Organization: Executive Networks Information

BZ>During the last month or so, I've changed the time that I run
BZ>and the course itself.  Because of these changes, I find it
BZ>necessary to use a sunblock.

BZ>My questions follow.

BZ>Are there:

BZ> o soaps that contain a reliable sunblock?

BZ> o recommendations for effective, non-greasy sunblocks?

BZ>Comments: Coppertone is slimy.

BZ>Clinique is supposed to be good, but it's expensive (about
BZ>$13 for a small tube).  Same with other cosmetic style/types
BZ>of sunblock.
Sunblock gets no better than a product called Bullfrog. Its a waterproof
gel that won't wash or sweat off all day, spf 25, not too expensive.
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From: tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mr. Mensa )
Subject: former fatness questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:49:09 GMT

Hello everybody:

	First of all, this is my first post to this group....I am so glad 
that there is a group like this....no time to get to a gym here at U of Ill.
Anyway, I am making this post to invite comments/questions/advice as to my
(and I imagine many other's) situation.
	When I was a senior in high school (I am now a senior in college), I
weighed 315 lbs. I am (and was then) only 5'9" and wore size 52 and XXXL. The
fall after my senior year, I was to attend Iowa, by which time I weighed in at
about 195. I know that this sort of rapid weight loss can be very dangerous, but
I kept going to the family doctor, and he said my health was incredible. Today,
I weigh about 190 and I have a few questions/comments/concerns.
	I still look at myself as being very fat...I know that I am no where
near the 315 I used to be, but I am still a hefty guy. Being very large boned
does not help at all (I have been classified 'obese' since 4th grade). My
question is: is there anyone out there who has lost a lot of weight who does
not feel that their body looks much different?
	The skin on my body seems to hang all over the place--perhaps this is
a reason I still look at myself as being fat. A friend of mine told me that
since I lost the weight so quickly, it is not possible to tighten my skin
without resorting to plastic surgery. Any comments....?
	When I was fat, I would always sweat.....like a pig. Now, I still do,
and this concerns me. I read the sweating posts, but I still don't know...
Here's a typical situation: It is 15 degrees out (or 30 or 40), and I have to
go to class, a ten minute walk. I am wearing a light sweater and an overcoat
with scarf and gloves (I seem to get very cold easily now, too). When I 
finally get to the building, I am sweating. This will happen no matter how I
dress and no matter what the temperature is like. I don't just perspire...
I usually sweat like a pig. Therefore, I usually get to class ten minutes
early or so and have to go into the bathroom and wipe sweat off my brow. Also,
I seem to sweat a lot wherever my skin hangs loosely...
	Finally, I am currently under a self-prescribed program of sit-ups,
jogging, and healthy eating. I wonder if there is anything else I could be doing
to alleviate some of these problems.


		in advance, I thank you
		thomas ehardt
		tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: MY MATCHES! (was Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to...)
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:41:19 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <nqsxrkj@rpi.edu> cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini) writes:
>In article <14619@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>>Ron,
>>
>>	Remember, I'm going up to Boston in August, so put up or shut up.
>>I've always wanted to say that, and now I've done it across the whole net.
>>I'm going to post a list of the people I'm going to take on up there in Boston.
>>These people can then post to the net whether they won or not.  It will
>>certainly be NOT!  :-)
>>
>
>I'll be *waiting* - with bells on!  (though it sounds really corny, I've
>always wanted to say *that*).
>
>Are wrist braces allowed?
>
>Ron

Sorry, buddy.  No wrist braces allowed, but you can wear them after I break
your wrists.  :-)

Here are some possible matches for me:

Claude Poux (poo@athena.mit.edu)
Aleck Alexopoulos (aleck@athena.mit.edu)--over 17" arms
Robert Cryan Jr (ia00078@maine.maine.edu)
Ron Cecchini (cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu)
Rob Loszewski (loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu)
Art Wittman (wittmann@engr.wisc.edu)--before Boston

Anyone else?  I need the practice.

							-Adam

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From: arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger)
Subject: Re: Ravenous appetite among lifters
Reply-To: arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:53:19 GMT

Cool! A fellow small-sized weightlifter. I'm also 5 feet 2 inches, and weigh 
100 +/- 2 lbs. I've been lifting for 2 years and now bench 145 lbs,which isnt
 much, but thats 145% of my weight, do 160 lbs. on the lats machine,(40 
chin-ups), and so-on. My problem is, unlike u, i cant seem to put on any 
weight, i weighed 100 last year, and 2 years ago also when i started. I've
definitely put on muscle, and definetly increased my strength (but it appears
that proportionally I'm not as built as compared to a "big" person who benches
the proportional amount of weight). 

I've always been skinny, so it isnt that muscle replaced fat, now im just lean.

Any suggestions, advice, (do u have problems balancing etc., I need somebody to
hold me down,pull me down, when i do the lats machine etc.)

_______________________________________________________________________________
Aaron Wininger                               Columbia Plasma Physics Laboratory
arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu                                 Columbia University
wininger@cuplvx.ap.columbia.edu                              New York, NY 10027
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From: jennifer@gaia.arc.nasa.gov (Jennifer Dungan)
Subject: Note to ROZ
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center - SGE
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:06:44 GMT

I received a note from you last week, but have lost it.
Can you send me your email address?

Apologies for posting this to the net.
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