From: leao@buphy0.bu.edu (Joao Leao)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Loeber Prize Transc. Terminal 4
Keywords: Turing Test
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:48:17 GMT
Organization: Artificial Physics Lab * Boston University


         Turing Test Transcript for Terminal 4 : "Shakespeare's Plays"


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00:48:19  Judge 9
HELLO

01:16:51  Terminal 4
hail!

01:17:47  Judge 9
WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE SHAESPEARE PLAY?

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01:23:23  Judge 9
What is your favorite Shakesperian play?

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King Lear, I also like many of the comedies.  How about you?

01:24:48  Judge 9
Sonnets, also the comedies but the tragedies are my favorites.   Are you famili
ar with Hamlet?

01:25:39  Terminal 4
The college kid who came home and found his mom had married the guy who 
murdered his dad just a little month before.  You might say so.

01:26:29  Judge 9
I don't know if you follow politics, but recently they have been referring to M
ario Cuomo as Hamlet on the Hudson, referring to his indesicion.  Can you expan
d on this analogy.

01:27:33  Terminal 4
His brooding.  Getting to the sonnets, I really like the one that goes
When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes/I all alone beweep my outcast
state....

01:28:52  Judge 9
Do you think William was a sexist? 

01:29:34  Terminal 4
Of course he was.  At that time everyone was.  Even the Queen.  Haven't you
read The Taming of the Shrew.  And don't ask me to stick my hand underyour
foot to squash.

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01:31:54  Judge 2
Have you ever acting in any of Shakespeare's plays?

01:32:29  Terminal 4
Yes, but only twice; Peaseblossom in the Midsummer's, and the crown
prince in Richard III.

01:33:10  Judge 2
Which is your favorite play an why?

01:33:40  Terminal 4
I was about to say King Lear, but it is so unrellentingly Tragic!  I do
love Cymbeline for its lovely poetry and romantic story.

01:34:36  Judge 2
Do you know much about the authorship to Two Noble Kinsmen?

01:35:32  Terminal 4
That is not among the 37 plays, unless that is some subtittle. I do know
about good old WS.


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01:36:15  Judge 2
Supposedly it was written by Fletcher and Shakespeare.

01:36:44  Terminal 4
Why don't we just stick to the Bard himself.

01:37:01  Judge 2
Ok Tell me how you would interpret Lady MacBeth's character.

01:37:58  Terminal 4
Ah, the Scottish play!  She is a very greedy, ambitious lady.  I wonder
what happened to her kids.  Did she really bash their brains out while 
they were smiling at her when she nursed them.  There are a lot of s
sounds in her speeches which make her sound very sinister.  Snaky.
What do you think?

01:39:39  Judge 2
Interesting about the s' sounds.  Can you give a pschological interpretation?

01:40:32  Terminal 4
Money and power.  Isn't that enough of a motivation.  To be queen and
order everybody about.  But she's not really a murder, and becomes overcome
with guilt.  She isn't as ruthless as she wants to be.  Poor thing.  She must
have liked her father, because it really bothered her, the king looked like
her father when she killed him.--or finished off killing him for her hubby.

01:42:33  Judge 2
supposedly the Bard wrote in stage directions to the dialog, Which play do you 
feel is the most visual?

01:43:21  Terminal 4
All of the plays are incredibly visual, he knew who he was writting for.
Yes the lines do imply what is to be done, that is the essense of writing for
the stage.  When Lear goes to kill Kent, the sword is refere to in the lines.
When the other characters tell him to stop, we know some big piece of action
is happening.  This is typically how WS does it.  That's why he's so great.

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01:46:50  Judge 8
Hello.  Which is your favorite play?

01:47:55  Terminal 4
Hail!
Hail!
Hail!  --not the Scottish play, Measure for Measure.  How about you?

01:48:40  Judge 8
I guess I'm a top of the pops type--Hamlet.


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01:49:09  Terminal 4
What do you like about Hamlet?

01:49:41  Judge 8
I like the friendship between Horatio and Hamlet.

01:50:09  Terminal 4
Yes, that is a particularly moving part of the play.  Especially
Horatio's speech over Hamlet's corpse--Goodnight sweet prince...
I really like the ghost.  Some day somebody has to do the ghost as
a holograph.  Wouldn't that be great?

01:51:29  Judge 8
I suppose, although I'm not too sure what a holograph is, and I'm not that fond
 of the ghost.  Do you think Shakespeare believed in ghosts himself?

01:52:34  Terminal 4
That's hard to ascertain, but they sure do make for great theatrics.  Also 
he was writing plays for people who did.  King James firmly believed in
all kinds of supernatural things, that is why the Scottish play is full
of witches and spirits.  Do you like the Scottish play?

01:54:04  Judge 8
I guess you mean MacBeth (I hope I spelled it right!).  Yes, I like it okay.  I
 like the trees that move.  

01:54:57  Terminal 4
Shakespeare didn't worry about spelling, so don't you.  You know it is a bad 
luck play and you must never say its name unless working on the production.
There is a Japaneese version of it, where the scene where the woods comes
to the castle is just as scary as scary can be.

01:56:25  Judge 8
That's fascinating.  I didn't know I wasn't supposed to say its name.  Thank yo
u.  How are the Japanese witches?

01:57:23  Terminal 4
There pretty spooky, but the bit with the trees is the best in the show.  There

is a whole tradition about what your supposed to do if you inedvertanly say the

name.  You must go out of the room, turn around three times, cry out, Angels
and ministers of Saints presever us, and then knock and ask to come back in.
But I won't make you do that.  There is good reason for That play to have
a reputation as bad luck.

01:59:39  Judge 8
You certainly are proving that we needn't worry about spelling!  But I love all
 this stage lore.  Are there any traditions concerning Romeo and Juliet?

02:00:44  Terminal 4
There may be, the Theater is so superstistious, but I don't know of any.



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02:01:10  Judge 8
Can you tell me the good reasons for the Scottish play's reputation that you me
ntioned?

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02:02:52  Judge 5
Tell me of a good play that would be close to our time?

02:04:23  Terminal 4
Sure, on the one hand, people tend to suffer misfortune when they do it, and
until our present enlightened era, people enjoyed frightening themselves 
with spooky stuff.  They didn't have computers to play with.  But the scrip
ititself has some very poorly written scenes.  And in the scene where the
children are murdred often the set designers like to include toys in the
setting.  After that scene there iSorry, didn't catch all of your question.

02:04:43  Judge 5
 I mean, I did not study Shakespeare so , I want to know of a play that I could
 relate to in modern times.

02:05:49  Terminal 4
Ok. But first let me finish, because this is interesting--after the children
are killed there is a fight scene, andthe actors are in danger from the
toys left on the set.  It is not uncommon for actors to break their bones
in That play.  Romeo and Juliet is relevant to our times, because of the
tragedy of so many teenagers committing suicide these days.  The theme
of the trouble of teenagers is also in Lear, becasue Cordelia argues
with her dad, Lear, and gets in big trouble.  

02:08:14  Judge 5
 I see, give me a hero who could be a hero for the kids now.

02:09:02  Terminal 4
Well Hamlet certainly could be.  He is their age, and he i

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