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From: Edwin_Cheng@sfu.ca (Edwin CHENG @ SFU)
Subject: X'mas dance & karaoke
Followup-To: Edwin_Cheng@sfu.ca
Summary: X'mas dance & karaoke
Keywords: X'mas dance, X'mas karaoke
Organization: TAIWANESE ASSOCIATION, SFU, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:42:25 GMT


        SFU  TAIWANESE ASSOCIATION PRESENTS
              POST-FINAL XMAS DANCE
                        &
                     KARAOKE

                    LOCATION:
        HALPEN CENTRE, SFU BURNABY CAMPUS

		      DATE:
		TUE, DEC 22, 1992

		      TIME:
		7:30PM TO 1:00AM


   TICKETS ON SALE @ DOOR @ $10.00 EACH (MEMBER AND NON-MEMBER)
	SAVE $2 (OR MORE) BY BUYING EARLY
		$8 / TICKET	(NON-MEMBER)
		$7 / TICKET	(MEMBER)
 STARTING THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 23, ON SALE AT SOUTH CONCURSE OF AQ

** For more info, please contact Joseph at  ysui@sfu.ca

			THANK YOU !

BUT WE'LL APPRECIATE MORE IF U & U'R BOYFRIEND, OR GIRLFRIEND, OR
SIBLINGS, OR KIDS, OR GRANDPARENTS (NO PARENTS PLEASE), COME TO OUR
DANCE. OR COME SOLO SEE OUR HUGE SELECTION OF KO-KO'S AND MAY-MAY'S, 
FOR EXAMPLE, MICHAEL OR ME!! ONE MORE THING, FREE, TASTY, NUTRIOUS 
DINNER (CHIPS,) TO STUFF YOUR-SELF WITH.

--Edwin CHENG
  S.F.U.
From: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: If you plan to study in Cleveland...
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:33:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


and need a place to stay, I have an extra room at my house that I am
planning to rent it out, so if you are interested, please give me 
an e-mail

-- 
Before you judge the action of a person, THINK!
Re-examine yourself first!  
What have I done to deserve this?  Answer it!
Then, let GOD be the judge of all!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: Taiwan News (late)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:18:33 GMT

nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:

>In article <9231621.6858@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:

>>When is last time you went to HongKong?  The term used to be a racist term
>>describing "white" people, but it has since become an "acceptable" and
>>"politically correct" term for describing "white" people.  Europeans in Hong
>>Kong refer to themselves as "guei lo", the term is no longer a racist term.
>>To your surprise, I was talking to an European working in Taiwan, and
>>the very first time I met him, he called himself "guei lo".

>Just this doesn't mean that it isn't a racist epithet.  The Koreans in Japan,
>before World War II, probably referred to themselves as "Chosenjin"(sp) as
>well, but that doesn't mean that that is not a racist epithet.

You know, languages can evolve.  50 years ago, the word "f***" was a
"normal" word meaning sexual intercourse, but now, the word has become
one of the most offensive term in English.

Similarly, the term "GueiLo" has evolved, and it no longer is used as
a racist offensive term.  It has become quite acceptable in the European
circle in Chinese speaking countries.

Language is not as stubborn as some people like it to be.

-- 
1)-----------------------Rev 6:8 "... They were given authority over a quarter
of the Earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and wild beasts."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: pan@arete.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Victor Pan)
Subject: Re: Do you mind if *HE* is a virgin or not?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:18:21 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov17.163250.4936@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang) writes:
> In article <23999@galaxy.ucr.edu> lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu (david lu) writes:
> >It seems only fair for us guys to ask the females reading
> >this newsgroup the parallel question stated above in the
> >subject line.  I have a feeling that Chinese girls would
> >prefer their partners to be virgins to a higher degree than
> >guys would.
> 
> *** Personally, I don't think so.  I think most girls prefer a non-virgin 
>     spouse, or they even don't care (because they CAN'T care).  Got it?  So see
>     how many advantages you guys got!
> 
> >Well, Christine excepted, of course. :)
> 
> *** Well...  :)
> 
> >And I would propose moving this thread to alt.sex, if only
> >there weren't so many political/historical posts in this
> >group!
> 
> *** Good, that's exactly what I think, honey!
> 
       do you mis-spell the last word?  did you mean to say "HORNY" ? ( that makes more  
sense ... , i guess 8-)
From: lyc@cs.purdue.edu (Ling-Yu Chuang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Do you mind..... virgin?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:02:35 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ector.cs.purdue.edu

>Because, what's the difference between a not virgin girl and a hore?.
>
>            Any comments?????
>
>Anthony.

	I tried to count to 10 to calm myself down. I tried to read
	everybody's opinion with an open mind. 
	However, THIS IS NOT BEARABLE!!! 
	This comment has insulted all girls who are not virgin including
	his own Mom. (Don't tell me that your Mom IS a virgin, Anthony.)
	Moreover, this comment also hinted that a girl does not have any
	right whatsoever to her own body and a girl has sex just to 
	satisfy men's need as she is a whore.
From: jchou@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (---I'M HERE!!!--- )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Do you mind..... virgin?
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:48:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov19.001307.10308@u.washington.edu> chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee) writes:
>In article <1eei2bINNq23@ector.cs.purdue.edu> lyc@cs.purdue.edu (Ling-Yu Chuang) writes:
>>>Because, what's the difference between a not virgin girl and a hore?.
>>>
>>>            Any comments?????
>>>
>>>Anthony.
>>
>>	I tried to count to 10 to calm myself down. I tried to read
>>	everybody's opinion with an open mind. 
>>	However, THIS IS NOT BEARABLE!!! 
>>	This comment has insulted all girls who are not virgin including
>>	his own Mom. (Don't tell me that your Mom IS a virgin, Anthony.)
>[....]
>
>To be fair with Anthony, he (and the thread) was talking about
>pre-marital sex.  So it has nothing to do with someone already
>married.  And please leave the Mom's out of the discussion.

hmm.. maybe you didn't read some of the previous posts that anthony
posted.
if i remember it correctly, anthony brought up another question of
how would you feel if you find out your mom is not a virgin before
she got married.
therefore, by following through this logic, would someone's mom
being considered as a whore if she didn't remain virgin until she
got married?


joy
---------------------------
Confucius spells Confusion
Nyquil spells HELL!!!
emailing adresses:
  jchou@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
  cs65xaz@sdcc8.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Taiwan News (late)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:23:04 GMT

In article <9232304.20855@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>
>Exactly my point, the above is a Christian/Western idea.  This is not
>a concept of commiting a crime against all mankind.  The idea arises
>from the Christian mythology of One Body, how one part of the body
>gets hurt, the rest of the body gets hurt, too.  That's a Christian
>idea.  In Chinese culture, you can be against heaven, against your
>country, against your parents, against your friends, but *not*
>against humanity.
28~
Yes you can.  Look at some history.  There were a lot of cases when
emperors were accused (by their overthrowers) of committing crimes
against the people, i. e., humanity.  Examples are Yang Guan and He
Lien Bo Bo.
>
>Are you a Christian or are you on the edge of becoming a pro-USA
>banana?
28~
I am Christian.  What does that have anything to do with pro-USA
or being a "banana" anyway?  I am truly distressed that you are reduced
to personal attacks here.
>
>I am a Christian, I believe if a Christian sins, the whole body
>suffers, but I don't see how someone can commit a crime against
>humanity.  Someone can be against Muslims by killing them...
>but not humanity!
28~
And so, only the Muslims should care about the crimes committed
against them?  You have not answered my question on this one.
>
>>Dave, if you still consider it meddling, would you also consider police who
>>arrest child molestors (from the children's families) meddling in domestic
>>affairs?

Why is this a trick question, anyway?  You have not provided an answer
nor a reason why you consider it inappropriate for me to ask this
question.
From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:15:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu) writes:

>>In article <9231614.118@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>>
>>Western Christian standard.  We, easterners, are not obligated to observe
>>standards that are set under Christian/Western influences; and that's why

>	Being an `easterners', I don't know who/what defines `our'
>	standard? -- Budda? Confuscius? Well, I know none of their saying
>	contradicts this `western standard' about human rights.
>	What is this standard that I have not heard of that encourages
>	or thinks nothing of human right abuses? 

Chinese culture teaches:  obey the authority.
Western culture does:  rebel against the authority.

Also, as I've said before, we're NOT talking about human rights here,
we are talking about monitoring citizens, it was Tim Chuang and Nelson
Lu who kept on linking those two together.  So, my parents monitoring
my brother's after school behaviour is a human right abuse?  :)

-- 
1)-----------------------Rev 6:8 "... They were given authority over a quarter
of the Earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and wild beasts."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:12:03 GMT

In article <BxzKIM.Jzn@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> u235@rex.chb.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee) writes:
>
>	Good points.  Another reason can be originated
>	from the comsumer's privilege.  That is: when
>	men are eligible to get a new pair of shoes why
>	they have to pick up an old one?  Same thing
>	...

	Marriage is comparable to shoe-buying? Guess you throw away
	your marriage every three months like your shoes...

	Marriage is a life-fulfilling joy and not a one time sexual
	fantasy. Yes, you may prefer your spouse to be a virgin but
	don't ever let that be the factor that decide your marriage.

Yung-Kao Hsu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:30:58 GMT

blee@digi.lonestar.org (Benjamin W. Lee) writes:

>In article <9231412.15685@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>>To the Canadian:
>>
>>If you're not Chinese, then, shut your mouth up!
>>
>>Didn't your mother teach you not to get involved in other people's
>>domestic dispute?

>This got to be one of the BEST article around s.c.t this year.
>Sometimes I couldn't believe the behavior and temperament that some of us
>have. Well, just another one of those days I guess.

>To Joyous, not to discourage you, but PLEASE, don't spoil all the image
>for us. I don't have to BEG, do I? Listen, learn, then speak up, OK? You
>can only do one thing at a time.

So you like the Chinese speaking world to go back to the late 19 Century,
where all the important Chinese policies are determined by Westerners?

Chinese people decide on what they want to do with their own countries.
Westerners decide on what they want to do with their own countries.
No one should tell each other what to do.

Whether China should be united or not, and whether Chinese market should
be open up or not, and whether China should keep monitoring its own
citizens or not is none of other people's business.

On the issue of human rights, I believe there are two different standards.
Chinese/Confucius vs Western/USA.  There are lots of similarities, but
the morals which those standards are based are quite different.

For example, Westerners like to put individual rights first, whereas
Chinese people like to put family benefits before individual selfishness.
So, is hitting your children, or forbidding your children from going out
to parties human right abuse (for example), or is it just the authority,
namely parents over children, exercising its unquestioned right
(in Chinese societies)?  Obeying the authority is extremely important
in Chinese culture.  And there are many many differences.

-- 
1)-----------------------Rev 6:8 "... They were given authority over a quarter
of the Earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and wild beasts."
From: pyang@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Peter Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Recuriting for scholar returning to Taiwan
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:39:16 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business


 Type of work: teaching & administration
 Location: Taipei,Taiwan
 Requirements: Ph.D in any of the following fields:
      1. Civil Engineer
      2. Accounting
      3. Finance
      4. International Trade
      5. Computer Science
      6. Engineer

  Please mail or fax resume to:

       Josephine Su
       137 E 36th Street
       NY, NY 10016
       FAX: 212-793-2861


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:08:50 GMT



In article <9232115.15767@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>
>Chinese culture teaches:  obey the authority.

	I would think it is `respect' the authority. There is a big
	difference between the two and there is discrepancy on what type
	of `authority' one should respect.

	There are certainly many authorities in the past history and this
	time of days who confuse people of what is `respect' from `obey'
	in order to maintain their power.

>Western culture does:  rebel against the authority.

	Guess what, comparing with Taiwan, my impression is most `westerners'
	(OK, it's people in U.S.) have more respects toward authority
	in abiding laws. They do question authority more often and
	I am glad that more `easterners' in Taiwan are catching on.

	Note, I responded your article under your statement concerning
	culture differences concerning human rights hence I don't
	think I have distorted your message.

Yung-Kao Hsu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang)
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:17:33 GMT



Hi honey,

loveamking means nothing but love and make it.  don't say responsibility, 
especially you are a man.

  *** Christine ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: phung@attmail.com
Subject: The Art of Singing in Cantonese Opera
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"From Speech to Song: The Art of Singing in Cantonese Opera"
------------------------------------------------------------

sponsored by:  Music From China

Speaker:       Prof. Bell Yung
               Music Dept.
               Univ. of Pittsburgh

Date:          Nov. 21 (Sat), 2:30 PM

Locaton:       Chatham Square Regional Library
               33 East Broadway
               New York City

Free Admission

Prof. Yung talks on the variety of techiques & styles of "speaking" (BAAK)
and "singing" (CHEUNG) used by Cantonese opera performers. Some, such as
plain BAAK, sounds almost identical to ordinary speech. Others make use of
rhyming schemes & phrase length patterns for the text, as well as special
rhythmics & tonal patterns for the melody. A spectrum of the various modes
of aural commucation ranging from "speech" to "song" demostrates the rich
variety of the art of singing in Cantonese opera.

Examples of BAAK & CHEUNG are demostrated by actress Lau Ying Chiu of the
Guangzhou Cantonese Opera Company with musical accompaniment.

*this event is mode possible with public funds from the Noational Endowment
for the Arts, New York State Council on the Arts, & NYC Dept. of Cultual
Affairs.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang)
Subject: Buddhism / looking for Min Fen Li (?) at Indiana U.
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:57:15 GMT

Hi!  Could Min Fen Li (?) Of Indiana U. in Bloomington please get in
touch with me?  Please let me know your street address and tel. number.
Thanks.

-Charles


*** Om Ma-Ni Pad-Me Hung *** | "Hey, Charles, have you been 'waiting' all
============================ |  your life?" -- Thao D. "the creature" Vo
   Charles Wei-Ting Tang     | ===========================================
cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu  | 201 W.72nd St.,#8J, NYC 10023  212/580-5609
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: jackw@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jack Wu)
Subject: R&D info in Taiwan
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:25:25 GMT


I am wondering if there is a public domain to access brief abstracts of
the current Taiwan's (public/private) research and development? 

As far as I know, there are several countries already providing this  
kind of information for  their overseas people (products promotion,
knowledge sharing). I am curious if any university or institution in
Taiwan is doing that. Any info would be appreciated...and if you all
would like, I can compile the replies and post a summary.


Thanks in advance of any response, 


Jack Wu        Austin, TX
jackw@oakhill.sps.mot.com
From: cfu@ces.cwru.edu (Chih-hong Fu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: For those planning to study at Case Western Reserve U. in Cleveland...
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:25:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: papa.ces.cwru.edu

I am going to leave CWRU, so there will be an extra room at the place I lived
(the other two roommates are both graduate students in CWRU from Taiwan,
with car).

The rent is $190.00 + electricity (~ $12.00/month) + tel ($7.70 plus long 
distance) + gas (~ $2.00/month) + newspaper ($4.00 or $5.00/month); 
heater/hot water is free.

20 min walking distance to CWRU (30 during snow season), good neighborhood,
convinient shopping.

If you are interested, drop me an email.

Chih-Hong Fu
-- 
Chih-Hong Fu
cfu@alpha.ces.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: shl1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Steven Lee)
Subject: Re: KMT campus spying activities in the U.S.
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:12:04 GMT

dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:

>Chinese culture teaches:  obey the authority.
>Western culture does:  rebel against the authority.

Western cultures teaches people to QUESTION the authority.  Big difference there.

Steven Lee

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: why_men_desire_virgins
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:44:01 GMT

In article <By3uDp.MAz@acsu.buffalo.edu> stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shuoh-Ren Tsai) writes:
> 
>Some of men whose wives/girl friends are virgins always try to suggest everyone
>NOT to mind if your girl friend/wife is a NOT virgin.  The thing does not
>happen to them.  Of course they don't care.  And they try to pretend to be a
>nice man with open mind.

if you don't have solid proof on what you say, please add "i think" in your
sentence.  how many does your 'some' mean?  one out from one million?

>Would anyone whose girl friend/wife is not a virgin like to tell us how you
>feel?  And what is your suggestion?  BTW, please be honest.

it will be too easy for you saying that you are not really honest.  therefore,
"you are not really honest" is the best execuse that you can use when you read
anything you don't like.

>I know virginity is not that important now. But hey, this is
>soc.culture.Taiwan, NOT soc.culture.America.

so?

cs shao.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: To all not virgin girls!!!!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:20:04 GMT

In article <92320.233203CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET writes:
>
>Anyone who dares to insult like that in public doesn't have self-respect.
>This kind of insults should be sent in e-mail. In my article, I just

Who are *you* to criticize his insult, if you had insulted non-virgins by
implying that they are whores?

>expressed my beliefs about virginity, and the question that appears in
>your article is my main reason to believe that virginity is a virtue. I

Hmmm.  If I say on this bboard, "All Frenchmen are bastards," is that an
"opinion," or is that an insult?  I would assume it is a racist insult.  It
has some resemblance to the original statment you said.

BTW, my name is on top of this article, in the header.  Any literate person
should be able to find it.
From: hongzen@coombs.anu.edu.au (Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: WANTED: 2 GUYS NAMED ZHENG4 LU4-LIN2 AND LIN2 CHI4-WEN2
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:34:18 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

Dear Netter, 

Two friends of mine are studying in USA and I want to know their address and
e-mail address. Could you help me if you know them?

	Zheng4 Lu4-lin2, studying in Duke University, sociology department,
			 Phd student, graduated from National Taiwan Uni   
			 sociology graduate school.

	Lin2 Chi4-wen2, studying in UCLA(I am not so sure),political department,			Phd student, graduated from National Taiwan University,				political graduate school.

Thank you very much for your help.
.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: jchou@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (---I'M HERE!!!--- )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Do you mind if your girlfriend is virgin or not
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:19:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.41140
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <92321.002707CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET> CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET writes:
>Hello to everyone again,
>
>I have got to explain why I asked: What would you think if you happen to
>know that your mother was not virgin by the time she got married?

hmm..
if someone's mother is not a virgin by the time she got married,
whould she be a w"HORE" according to your earlier post?
no offense, just wondering.  :)


joy
----------------------------
Confucius spells Confusion
Nyquil spells HELL!!!
emailing addresses:
  jchou@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
  cs65xaz@sdcc8.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan