HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alley@argon.berkeley.edu (Rod Alley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: How to import PostScript vector files into CorelDraw
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:42:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.berkeley.edu

This would be a very helpful tool.  Does anyone know more about it?
If there isn't a non-disclosure agreement that would be violated, could
some beta-tester give his/her impressions here, or if someone's been
saving the Compuserve discussions, could you e-mail a copy to me?

Thx,
Rod Alley
alley@argon.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au (S G Fischer)
Subject: Re: Table in W4W 2.0
Reply-To: fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au
Organization: Australian Telecommunication Research Institute
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:57:49 GMT

> > 
> > If you want each of the irregular shaped 'blocks' to be one cell then I know of
> > no way to do want you want.
> > 
> > 
> > You can achieve the appearance that you seem to be after by selecting the 
> > various blocks of cells and then drawing lines with the BORDER command.
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > |................|.............|............|
> > |................|_____________|____________|
> > |................|.............|............|
> > |________________|_____________|____________|  where the dotted lines indicate
> >                                                individual cells.
> > 
> > With this method each line of text in a multiple line block will be in a 
> > different cell in your table.
> > 
> > Hope this helps!
> > 
> > Ian Holmes
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Ian R Holmes
> > Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland 4072, Australia
> > holmes@cs.uq.oz.au    ph +617 365 2809     fax +617 365 1999
> > 
> 
> Thanks for your reply Ian,
> 
> We have done what you suggested at times, but 
> unfortunately you can not produce the '2 same size
> cells next to 3 same size cells' table with one line
> of text centred vertically and horizontally in each cell.
> I think its just a limitation of W4W.
> Nothing's perfect I guess !!!!!!
> 
> 	Thanks
> 
> 	Stephen
> 
> 

Ian

Actually I have just spoken to someone here who has been trying
to create such a table.  She overcame the problem by
creating the gridlines like you suggested and then pasting
embedded objects (equations) in the desired positions, 
sometimes over the top of hidden gridlines.
	
	Stephen

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Email     : fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au
Telephone : +619 351 3263
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	    Curtin University of Technology
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: doc@magna.com (Matthew J. D'Errico)
Subject: Re: How do I print very BIG letters?
Organization: Magna Software Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:04:04 GMT

In article <5Dx-qAWGBh107h@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us> tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari) writes:
>
>This may depend on your printer driver.  I have the Windows HP LaserJet+
>driver installed and I can't get the point size box to accept anything
>bigger than 127 (~1.75").

While there is indeed a limitation in some of theolder print drivers,
you can overcome that by going into the Control Panel for Fonts, and tell
TrueType to print as Graphics.  The 127 limit is your WordProcessor, though.
You need another app or applet.

-- Doc
From: akm@getafix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Word for Windows 2.0 problems
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:36:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov9.173628.7276
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

I created a macro called 'insert today's date'. It uses the unlink
field command. Check your manual for details.

kartik


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From: sph0301@utsph.sph.uth.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: winmine - How to cheat?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:58:23 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas School of Public Health

In article <1992Nov11.135815.10868@fwi.uva.nl> koopal@fwi.uva.nl (Andre 
Koopal) writes:>I just tried this at home, but it doesn't work for me. What 
can I do wrong.>Thanks in Advance,
>Andre


Do you have the background color set dark enough to see it?  It's just ONE
pixel that lights up when over a safe square...

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: sap@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Stephan A. Puga)
Subject: Aldus "Publishing Showcase for Windows"
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:33:13 GMT

Has anyone purchased this sset of programs?  It consists of
Pagemaker, Freehand, and Photostyler.  How does  each of these
compare to competing programs?  I am mainly concerned with PM and
FH.  Is FH even close to CorelDraw 3.0?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: eda803z@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Re: keyboard remapper for windows needed
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:30:18 GMT

I'd like to have this program too.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au (S G Fischer)
Subject: Table in W4W 2.0
Reply-To: fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au
Organization: Australian Telecommunication Research Institute
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:08:51 GMT

Does anybody know how to produce a table in W4W 2.0 that looks something
like the one shown below :

+------+------+
|      |      |
|      | Text |
| Text |      |
|      +------+
|      |      |
+------+ Text |
|      |      |
|      +------+
| Text |      |
|      | Text |
|      |      |
+------+------+

Any help would be much appreciated.


Stephen Fischer

Australian Telecommunications Research Institute
fischer@atri.curtin.edu.au
From: reed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Perry Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: SLIP Software
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:09:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Co / PGIS

> / hpcc01:comp.os.ms-windows.apps / mbk@netcom.com (Miles Kehoe) /  5:03 pm  Nov 10, 1992 /
> I think I'm trying to find SLIP (serial Link Internet Protocol?)
> software for my pc which will work under dos and/or windows.
> 
> I have software that will allow a tcpip driver which gives me
> berkeley sockets to communicate with a server process running
> on a sun system. I want to dial in over a high speed modem,
> let the driver establish a connection, and then let my 
> windows program talk merrily with the process running on the
> sun on a specific port.
> 
> If you kow where I can {get/buy/obtain} software to do this,
> I'd really appreciate a posting and/or mail to mbk@netcom.com.
> 
> I'd also appreciate any success or horror stories if you've
> done or tried this sort of thing!
> 
> Miles
> 
> ----------
Please post a response.  I'd like to know also.

Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bielski@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com (Walt Bielski)
Subject: Re: Word for Windows question
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:47:13 GMT

In article <ardie.141.721313879@UIUC>, ardie@UIUC (R.D. McClary) writes:
> In article <608@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson) writes:
>>I would like to include an encapsulated postscript image on every page
>>of a document that my new stuff gets overlayed upon.  Is there a way to
>>do this?  Basically what I want is the word Uncontrolled written diagonally
>>and at a halftone on every page of some documents we are creating.  Can this
>>be done in Word for Windows?  It would be nice to include this in the header
>>of each page if possible.
>>
>>Craig 
>>
>>-- 
>>                                                     "Please Captain...
>>-Craig Williamson                               Not in front of the Klingons."
>> Craig.Williamson@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM              -Spock  STV 
>> craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (home)
> 
> 	Despite what the box says, MS W4W chokes on graphics.  Although it 
> has its share of glitches, AmiPro would probably do what you want much 
> better than W4W.  ANY images or multiple frame layouts slows W4W to a 
> crawl.  That's why I re-installed AmiPro and stripped most of the graphics 
> "capabilities" from W4W.

Well, this may be true, but there is a way to do it using W4W. I use it to
put "Draft" on every page of my document. Load the file newmacro.doc from the
winword directory into W4W and install the "Watermark" macro. It allows you
to put text in the background on every page. This only works if you are using
a postscript printer. Removing the watermark is somewhat of a pain; you have
to go to View -> Header, do a View -> Field Codes, and manually edit out the
postscript commands :-P. Hope this helps.

Walt Bielski

My views, not Honeywell's.
From: tabitha@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: PC Tools 8.0 - PC Tools Windows
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:12:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

As a registered owner of pctools 7.1, I'm not all that
interested in pctools 8.0.  But I am interested in pc
tools for windows.  My questions are:
1) whether the upgrade to the windows product will be
the same for 7.1 owners as for 8.0 owners,

2)  when the heck the product is coming out.
-dennis turner
tabitha@vms.huji.ac.il

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: horv7895@nova.gmi.edu (hi)
Subject: MS Mouse v8.2
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:14:03 GMT

How do you get Windows 3.1 to start up with a different mouse cursor?  I
like the medium sized solid black cursor but I have to run the control panel
from inside Windows after I start up in order to change it.  I'm assuming
the mouse.ini file would have to be put somewhere (or something similar) but
so for I've had no luck.  Thanks.

Josh (horv7895@nova.gmi.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bdeskin@cognos.com (Bob Deskin)
Subject: Re: NDW 2.0 and Norton Backup for Windows 2.0
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:05:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.172705.13200@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu> ken@oscar.welch.jhu.edu (Ken Fasman) writes:
>
>Well, I just got off the phone with Symantec/Peter Norton Tech Support asking
>about Norton Desktop for Windows Version 2.0, and they claim:
>
>1) There is NO interim/bug fix release of NDW 2.0!  "What you got is what there
>   is."  I offered to PAY for such a release (which I clearly SHOULD NOT have
>   to do), and I was told there was no such software to be had for love or
>   money.
>
>2) I was directed to a file on the BBS (which I check fairly regularly for bug
>   fixes) called COMPAT.EXE, which the support person said is solving a number
>   of problems for various people.  He was not terribly specific.
>
Strange ... Many registered owners have receieved a "Compatibility Update"
disk. Presumably this contains the same files as the COMPAT.EXE file on
their BBS. I got mine by complaining about some specific bugs (none of
the ones you mention, but others). The person I talked to was reasonably
helpful about telling me about the update. As for what it fixes however, 
I got nowhere. Bascially I was told that the fixes didn't affect the 
interface - which I think is a very poor line indeed, since the fix to
my problem was very much an interface issue (moving directories plus
subdirectories). My advice is to download the file if you can't get them
to send you the disk (I assume you must register first), and see if it
fixes your problems. Certainly you should report the problems. As for their
support people not being open about the update, write a letter to the
president.


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(613) 738-1440                P.O. Box 9707, 3755 Riverside Drive
FAX (613) 738-0002            Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1G 3Z4
bdeskin@cognos.COM
From: damien@reg.triumf.ca (DAMIEN GALLOP)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WinFax 2 + WordPerfect/Win = no graphics
Date: 5 Nov 1992 05:12 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: reg.triumf.ca
Keywords: Windows, WinFax, WordPerfect, Graphics, Printing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1d9s7tINN49u@werple.apana.org.au>, jul@werple.apana.org.au (Julian Loke) writes...
>When using WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows to print text and graphics onto
>a fax/modem, the WinFax driver handles the text, but omits the graphics.
>Other applications such as Write behave correctly with WinFax.
>etc.

WordPerfect probably suggested checking your setting for Preferences, Print,
Graphics Quality. You can choose High, Medium, or None. If yours is None,
then graphics will not be printed.

WinFax doesn't "print" with the greatest resolution at the best of times,
but it does print. Things like graphics lines, which are very thin, will
appear on your hi-rez printer, but not on a fax. They are too small. Try
the WPWIN test page. The pair of lines at the bottom of the page will do
just this. But the owl in the centre definitely prints, even at "normal"
fax resolution.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: roger@uvmark.uucp (Roger MacNicol)
Subject: Re: ProComm + for Win Window Builder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:19:57 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

>
>>Howdy all... I've been using PC+ for Windows for several months now and I'm 
>>very satisfied with it... the only problem that I've had is that is has this
>>really easy to use Window Builer included, but it doesn't seem to tell how to
>>install a built window in the main program.  I tried to turn the window
>>structuring commands into an aspect file, but that didn't work right.  I've 
>>also tried associating the window file with PC+, but no dice on that one 
>>either.  Anyway, if anyone knows how to run a built window, I'd appreciate a 
>>response (either email or post, I read this group pretty regularly).
>
>>Thanx in advance,
>
>>John "The .sig-less Wonder" Trager
>

I am not sure what you want to acheive; I used the window builder to create
a window which I get when I start Procomm with an iconbutton for each of the
machines on the network at my work and a Close button -it's great, I just hit
the icon and takes me straight through to that machine from my home pc.

I took the script written by the window builder and then edited it to add the
calling code - I can mail it to you if you want an example.

I saw a book just published on Procomm for Windows in Comp USA yesterday - 
you might look at it if you need help

- Roger

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: cellis@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Charles Ellis)
Subject: Re: Xtree for windows
Keywords: xtree win3.1
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:14:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.180001.3521@odin.corp.sgi.com> jegm@esd.sgi.com writes:
>Has anyone else noticed that running xtree for windows in enhanced
>mode hoses dos?
>
>After installing Xtree for windows on a very stable machine, everything
>worked fine. Xtree seemed a marginally useful program over the functionality
>of NDW2.0, The directory browsing was much faster, and mounting .zip files
>as drives is nifty and useful.
>
>After rebooting my system I noticed that after running Xtree, any DOS session
>would cause the "Your app has violated system integrity" message. and exiting
>windows would hang the system.
>
>I reinstalled xtree and the problem went away, until I rebooted, then it 
>re-appeared. It is very consistent, and only happens after or during an Xtree
>session.
>

I have been running XTreeWin in enhanced mode on a 386SX 6MB system with
386MAX for several weeks now with no sign of the problem you have.

As a long time user of XTree for DOS in several incarnations, I like it
- it has much more functionality than FileManager, and the ZIPfile
handling is spectacular. 

1) Which extended memory manager do you use?
2) Does the problem come when you exit Win3.1 and use DOS, without ever
having opened a DOS window while in Win3.1?
3) Have you tried XTree Tech Support?
	(from p A28 of the manual - assuming your copy is registered)
	Tech Support No. (805)541-0604 (have serial number ready)
	Compuserve	 75300,2266(Email) or "GO XTREE" in the PCVENE area
	Internet	 techsupp@xtree.xtree.com

Sorry I can't help further.
----
Charles Ellis - Biology Dept. - Northeastern University - Boston MA

   cellis@lynx.northeastern.edu  or  ellis@nuhub.northeastern.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Printing on old oki
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:37:31 GMT

In article <Bx93rK.Kzs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, comjudi@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(Judi Geistlinger) writes:
> I have an old okidata ML 182 printer. In order to work from WordPerect for Win,
> we use the definition of oki ML 92. In order to print from windows notepad we
> use oki 92 IBM definition. When we try to print from Excel we cannot get any
> numbers to print. I tried using the generic text only, but it does not print
> any numbers. Any suggestions?

I've seen something similar, twice, except in both cases it was WP4Win
that wouldn't print -- MS app's seemed OK!

The solution that worked in both these cases was (a minor variation on)
setting the Windows printer driver port to LPT1.DOS (or LPT1.OS2 in
Win30) in the printer control panel.

I'm not entirely sure, but this solution seems to work because it
"side-steps" using the Windows parallel port driver, and does printer
I/O through "normal" DOS file I/O (via the DOS I/O device psuedo-files),
which seems to be less fussy in what it detects as a "printer" (or
whatever) attached to it.

Hope this helps someone,

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
 n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz  (64)(3)  364-2337 Voice,  364-2332 FAX
From: dsmithey@oregon.uoregon.edu (Dan Smithey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Quick Time for Windows??
Keywords: Quick time windows
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:32:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: oregon.dsmithey.5.721002716
Organization: University of Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: dudovic.uoregon.edu

Hello folks,

	Just wondering if anyone knows if there is an application(s) 
for editing, playing, etc. of Macintosh Quick Time files for Windows 3.1.  
Perhaps there is an alternative to Quick Time that can import QT files?

You can mail me if you wish at:

	dsmithey@oregon.uoregon.edu

or just post to the net.

Many thanks,
Dan Smithey
				
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: steveskr@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Skrzyniarz)
Subject: HP LaserJet 4 drivers?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:19:47 GMT

I just purchased a brand new HP LaserJet 4 printer and was assured by the
salesman that the box contained drivers for Windows 3.1 (which of course
it didn't).  After calling HP's 1-800 number for support, an automated voice
system told me that I could call Compuserve for a copy of these drivers
(I don't have a Compuserve account), could send in my registration card and
request that HP mail me a copy of these drivers (but I need them RIGHT AWAY)
or if I was a dealer, I could call the HPNN BBS (but of course I'm not a 
dealer).

Can someone with Compuserve access grab these drivers and upload them to
cica??

Thanks,

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: swesterback@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Sten Westerback, Nokia Telecommunications, FINLAND)
Subject: Re: W4W 2.0b hang
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:01:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.101444.1025@mala.bc.ca>, apland@mala.bc.ca writes:
> In article <HOLBROOK.92Nov3134500@nic.cic.net>, holbrook@cic.net (Paul Holbrook) writes:
>> I just got a copy of Word for Windows 2.0b.  Since Microsoft doesn't
>> tell you what's changed/fixed in these kind of releases, I'm not
>> really sure what's different.  But I have find some kind of bug; I'm
At least i have read that the b-revision (why not 2.1?) has more complete
filters. For example, the WP filter will convert pictures and everything(?)
else (word)perfectly :)

>> Now, hold down the ALT key, and at the same time, press the F4 and F6
>> keys together.  On my machines, this locks up Word solid: I have to
>> type CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out.

I really don't understand why you must press F4 and F6 simultaneously-even
in case of an PC/XT keyboard (F-keys on left). A more natural keycombinition
would be ctrl-alt-shift-F4! I wouldn't call that a bug!

Anyway i would suspect that the problem is in the keyboard driver for the 
86 key keyboard. I would suggest you to buy an 100+ button keyboard. 

> I was able to replicate this on one computer and not on another.There are many 
> hardware differences though - locked on 386-20 8Megs, no lock on 486-33 16 Megs
>  - both AMI bios, different drives and keyboards etc.
The 486 has a 102 key keyboard and the 386 an 86 key one?

Sten
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rrogers@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Excel 4.0 Curve Fitting?
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:32:54 GMT

I am considering the purchase of Excel 4.0 and would like an 
opinion on its curve fitting capabilities.

Most importantly, what type of curve does it fit and does the
user have any control over way the curve fits the data.

Also, how is Excel with 3-D surface plots?

						Thanks in Advance

						Rick

P.S. Email rrogers@minnie.imd.nrc.ca

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: vango@halcyon.com (Dennis L. Vogt)
Subject: Re: keyboard remapper for windows needed
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:24:22 GMT

You could try hDC Power Launcher.  It will remap the keyboard globally,
or for any application (the keyboard switches with the application).  It
is between $50 and $100.  It does much, much more than remapping though,
it is a very useful program.

Jared
vango@halcyon.ocm
From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: New PC Computing
Date: 9 Nov 1992 11:38:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


The new PC Computing is a special Windows issue with tons of valuable
info.

Worth picking up...

-- 
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TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet
"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"