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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: In Defense of Libraries...
Date: 25 Dec 92 01:12:39 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <1992Dec24.214815.259@acuson.com> lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson) writes:
>In article <9212231627.AA16580@icdi10.COMPU.COM> fred@cdin-1.compu.com writes:
>... about limited lending practices...

>The taxpayers (or those who talk to legislators) may feel that since
>this is a locally funded enterprise, the benefits should be most
>accessible to those locally.  As such, they might want to restrict some
>(or all) materials to use by the funding population.  That means
>restricting ILL to in-state libraries.
>
Libraries with most (but not all) of the interesting material are
university connected, usually large universities. These compete nationally
for grants and contracts, and the libraries are a part of the overhead (and
sometimes a part of the direct charges). Thus a significant portion is
federally sponsored as a part of the research enterprise. [So, clearly, is
INTERNET.) We don't have a steady state here.

Over time, States and localities have taken different attitudes toward
charging for various communication services like roads. Some states have
toll roads, some do not. California does not, but has toll bridges...
We pay to park on the street, but not to drive on the street. Simple tax
arguements are (simply) to simple. There will always be an unexplainable
variety of solutions, many of them ad hoc, trying to balance a budget, etc.

High fees either are designed to keep small States from off loading
capital expenses against free or cheap services, when the sharing is too
unequal or, like the bridges and tunnels into NY, they are a near monopoly
and thus a money maker that is hard to give up.

When one can't get a book, one can often get a fiche or a film. My guess
is that with a little help from the likes of the College of Engineering
Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona, and some generosity about
the nature of research in electronic reproduction, that the pressure for
material will lead to a vast increase in CD ROM and the like -- a trend
that we already see, and will replace the long standing demand for
microfilm and fiche.

One might remind Charles Ten Brink and the De Angelo Law Library that,
taken to its extreme, there would be no microfilmed records if no
permission were ever given to photocopy one of a kind records.... Clearly,
credentialed individuals and institutions, the LDS among them, are ideal
movers in this area. As the price of scanning and CD ROM publishing comes
down, the De Angelo Law Library may even feel it worth while to consult
North Arizona University about how to make and sell collections under
all of the proper safeguards and caveats. Luckily we have pictures of
the Schlieman finds at Troy, since the originals have disappeared in war.
Luckily there were copies made of at least some of the holdings in the
Library at Alexandria...(not Virginia {:-)

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 /|\   TOM LINCOLN  lincoln@rand.org
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 /|\   experimenting dangerous, reasoning difficult."

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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:45:30 PST
Reply-To:     Karen Isaacson <karen@MONTY.RAND.ORG>
From:         Karen Isaacson <karen@MONTY.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      One day delay in January Roots Surname List
Comments: To: roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

Hi all,

I just got in from my Christmas vacation.  Look for the surname list
tomorrow, rather than today as I initially promised...

        Karen
        karen@rand.org
From: cowan@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (P.L. Cowan)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Allen County Public Library.
Date: 21 Dec 92 07:32:34 -0800
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab
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My one successful visit on FirstSearch taught me that most of the genealogical
reference materials in which I am interested are located in the Allen County
Public Library in Indiana (Fort Wayne I expect). I may have an opportunity
to visit there the Monday after Christmas when I visit my brother-in-law who
lives in western Michigan.

Does anyone have any tips as to the best way to make my visit effective. 
Is the genealogical collection (Nancy Hacker Collection) open to the public? 
Should I make any arrangements in advance? Should I take rolls of dimes 
to feed the Xerox machine? Are they closed between X'mas and New Years? etc.

Searching: COWAN, COLLINS, CRAWFORD, FRANKLIN, LEACH/LEECH, KERR to name a few.

-- 
Paul Cowan     
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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: wow! (Re: FirstSearch)
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:15:10 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <1992Dec20.134757.2927@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
>
>>degrees.  You could ask for a photocopy of relevant pages,
>>or get an acquaintance in that area to photocopy those
>>pages for you.
>
>That's always a neat trick if you don't even know if there are any relevant 
>pages. Most of the time that's the whole point of getting the book: to find 
>out.

What are rooters for? A look and copy exchange is the life blood of
of my research.

Tom

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		      *** Happy Happy Holiday's ***
From: jrs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Spencer)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:04:28 GMT
Subject: Re: SPENCER LINE FROM 1385
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.roots

I am looking for information on the CARVER line to complete the extensive
amount of research I have been given.  I am new to searching for family
roots, but I have entered everything I have been given into the Family Origins
program and I would be willing to provide a GEDCOM file to anyone who could
help me.

I am also very interested in finding out more about a Jack Carver b. abt 1790
and immigrated through the Cumberland Gap abt 1810.  Jack and his wife
Peggy Woodcock are the earliest members of the Carver family that I have
found.  I have a pretty complete line of Carvers from that point to
the present.  Jack and Peggy had two boys, Thomas William and Oliver and two
girls, Mary Francis and Ellen Nellie Jane.  I only have the descendants of
Thomas William, but I am interested in the descendants of his brother and
sisters.  I also am very interested in finding out about Jack Carver's 
pedigree.

I have some historical notes and references to newspaper articles concerning
people and places in Barren Co., Edmonton, Horse Cave, and Railton.

Please email me if you are insterested in the Carver's.


John R. Spencer  (jrs@fc.HP.COM, (303) 229-3271)
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:03:00 LCL
Reply-To:     KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
From:         KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Subject:      Re: HRC
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Just because somebody claims to have your family's coat of arms, this
doesn't make it so.  It only means that someone who had the same surname as
you once was awarded a coat of arms.  Arms don't belong to everybody with the
same name; they are awarded to an *individual*, and, sometimes, that
individual's heirs (although not always).

Rick Kitchen (kitchenrn@ssd0.laafb.af.mil)
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WKIMLER@DREW.DREW.EDU (Bill Kimler) writes:
>Hi there,
>
>        Here's an unusual question, but this is probably the best place to
>ask it.
>
>        I recently purchased a family history summary from a group
>called the Historical Research Center.
>
>        You've probably seen them at the local shopping mall.  They have
>some sort of database of name histories; and if you are fortunate enough
>to have their name in their files, they will print up a nice looking
>history and frame it for you.  They include information regarding the
>origins of your family name, coat of arms, family colors?, etc...
>
>        My name is fairly rare (Kimler) and i was surprised that they
>had a history on it.
>
>        Does anyone know if this group is on the level - or have I
>been scammed?
>
>                                - Bill
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:27:41 -0600
Reply-To:     RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET
From:         RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Patents

For the happy few who live in or near Washington DC or who can go there from
time to time, THE place for research about patents is the Patents and
Copyrights Office, in Arlington, VA (sorry, I don't have the address with me
here, but it must be easy to find).

I was astonished how nice and cooperative the people there were. They let me
search on my own in a huge set of card-file drawers. It was fairly easy to
understand all symbols and classifications. This was about two years ago. I
don't know whether the place is still as nice and open to researchers as it
was then.

I was told by a librarian at Nat. Archives, Washington DC, that the compendium
volumes of patents (which can be found in many libraries) are not 100% complete
for all years.

Good luck !

Jean Paul Rigaut    University of Paris 7, France
rigaut@frurbb51
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:22:43 PST
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      Re Searching for HARE:
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 18:18:48 PST
From: Tom Lincoln <lincoln>
To: convex!rcox
Subject: Re: Searching COX and HARE
Organization: RAND

Last January Craig Coates <N043GN@tamvm1.tamu.edu> posted a message
that he had a friend with a Hare family genealogy extending over hundreds
of years.  As I recall, the friend was in Texas.....

Tom
From: thompson@nde.unl.edu (norma thompson)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Schmutzer
Date: 2 Jan 1993 00:27:59 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: nde.unl.edu
Summary: Schmutzer, looking for descendants of Edward Schmutzer and wife Dora Vo
Keywords: Looking for Schmutzers with Missouri ties in late 1800's


I am searching for Schmutzers in Washington State who have roots in NW 
Missouri.  Edward Schmutzer and wife Dora Vollmer Schmutzer had at least 
three sons: Carl, Harvey, and Otis.  These were baptized in Craig/Corning 
Lutheran Church.  Some time in early 1900's they moved to Washington, I 
believe.  The  mother of Edward Schmutzer was first married to a Schatz, my
great-great grandfather.  Edward had three brothers and one sister, besides
a half-brother and sister. Any help appreciated.  Norma Schatz Thompson
  E-mail:             thompson @nde.unl.edu


Salem, NEbraska  68433

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Reply-To:     JMILLER@PRIME.MHSL.UAB.EDU
From:         JMILLER@PRIME.MHSL.UAB.EDU
Subject:      Spradlin
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Merry Christmas to all!

Here I go with my question that I seem to ask annually.  Does anyone know any-
thing about Tobe SPRADLIN (later Sidney Spradlin), my g-grandfather?  He was
married in Bedford Co., VA on 05/22/1894 to Florence Drewery STINNETT, father of
Sidney Clayton SPRADLIN, Walker SPRADLIN, John SPRADLIN, et al.  On his marriage
record, Tobe states that he was born in Bedford Co., VA in March 1873, the son
of Meador and Paulina SPRADLIN.  I've searched censuses, etc., with no luck
whatsoever in finding Tobe, Meador, or Paulina prior to the 1894 marriage.  Any
suggestions, outside of taking two weeks to travel to Virginia to research?
This is out of the question at this time.

Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated.

Jean Spradlin-Miller

jmiller@prime.mhsl.uab.edu

@
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:45:54 EST
Reply-To:     CERPDS@UKCC.UKY.EDU
From:         CERPDS@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

HELP!

I have come to a dead end on a surname. Can anyone help me?
I'm looking for any leads on ODAH.
The info I have thus far is  Andrew Wilson  married Mahala ODAH Aug 7, 1834.
I have found no other ODAH's. I would appreciate andy help.


      Paul Shafer  Workhorse@caer.uky.edu or CERPDS@ukcc.uky.edu

PAUL SHAFER
INFORMATION SERVICES
CENTER FOR APPLIED ENERGY RESEARCH
UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
3572 IRON WORKS PIKE
LEXINGTON, KY. 40511
(606) 257-0237
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From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: S&H Green Stamps
Followup-To: soc.roots
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:04:55 GMT

In article <brendaa.80@MCES.MsState.Edu> brendaa@MCES.MsState.Edu (Brenda Arnsdorff) writes:

>>My best information is that S&H is out of business. 

There is a Sperry & Hutchinson (sp?) Redemption Center in Philadelphia
still doing business.  But here in New Jersey, I haven't seen any
businesses that give out the stamps.

There is a Heart&Lung Center in Browns Mills, NJ, that does its work
without billing for its services; it depends on donations & whatever
your medical plan will pay it.  It is also supported by "Chapters" in
various locations which raise money by means of bazaars, bake sales,
etc.  I have seen classified ads in the WANTED section asking people
to send their S&H Green Stamps in for donations.

I (over)heard a trucker on the CB a while back mention that he gets
some kinds of stamps at certain truck stops -- with the amount of fuel
they purchase, it shouldn't take long to fill up a book or two!

FWIW,

Ed
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:39:29 -0500
Reply-To:     MBOS@DELPHI.COM
From:         MBOS@DELPHI.COM
Subject:      Simple genealogy programs
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

I am new to this list.  I am looking for a simple genealogy program for
a PC which will: allow me to add in extra information about people,
trace a direct lineage back to one person instead of going through everyone
in the program, trace intermarriages, print in a form that could be used
in a book...

Any ideas would be appreciated! Thank you!

Mary Beth O'Sullivan
MBOS@delphi.com
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:13:36 -0600
Reply-To:     Marilyn Brien <brien@TENET.EDU>
From:         Marilyn Brien <brien@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      FirstSearch
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After successfully using FirstSearch this week this morning I'm told that
authorization number: 100077527 and Password: fsearch do not match.  Has
anyone else had this problem?  Thank, Dave. What I've gotten so far has
been a GREAT help!  Marilyn
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:34:52 -0800
Reply-To:     Elizabeth Unkefer <unco@NETCOM.COM>
From:         Elizabeth Unkefer <unco@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Any Brits out there?
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.nodak.edu

Hi -
I was just wondering if there were any Brits out there in the vicinity
of Huntingdon, Cambs...  If so, could you give a call to Vera and
Steve Bradley at 0480 414127 and wish her a Happy Christmas from her
daughter and grandchildren in the states?  TIA!
From: lib1p@elroy.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: ILL (was Re: What's MELVYL?)
Date: 28 Dec 1992 06:39 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
Keywords: MELVYL, Libraries, ILL, Interlibrary Loan
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec25.213148.24698@compu.com>, fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes...

..stuff deleted....


>I'm so glad you are not upset with my criticism of the system as it stands. 
>You obviously have a feel for what is wrong. As a result of your post I will 
>write a letter to our Library director and let him/her know that there are 
>some of us out here who appreciate the ILL service more than they know. 
>Perhaps letters like that from the public will influence funding a little.

Actually I would encourage people to do this with any public or research
institution.  The only way the people at the top know what is what is
through communication with the people at the bottom and, more importantly,
with the people who use their services. 

By taking the time to write a thought out, concerned letter, you tell them 
that this is important to you even before they read it.  Whenever you feel
you have gotten good service a letter to the higher ups is always appreciated.
People usually only write when they have something to complain about.  We
could make 50 people happy and 1 person upset and the director would probably
only hear from the 1 upset person.

I'm sure your county ILL office would greatly appreciate that letter.

Tammy

> 
>Fred
> 
>PS Thanks for your understanding post.

Your very welcome Fred.  Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.
I'll be happy to answer them if I can.


From: jrs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Spencer)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:21:51 GMT
Subject: sign me up
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.roots

Please subscribe John R. Spencer to the Roots mailing list.

John R. Spencer (jrs@fc.hp.com)

2331 Firstview Dr.
Loveland, CO
80538

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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:19:47 PST
Reply-To:     "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 30-Dec-1992 1312" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
From:         "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 30-Dec-1992 1312" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Historical/Genealogical Societies in the U.S.
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Since many of my ancestors are from the south, I was wondering if anyone
on the net had a listing of the Historical/Genealogical societies in the
southern U.S. I am particularly interested in North Carolina, South
Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and Florida.

The same holds true for the Mid Atlantic states and New England.

Thanks in Advance,

Mike

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Mike Holland
Digital Equipment Corp.
305 Rockrimmon Blvd.
Colorado Springs, Colorado
(719)592-5964
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HOLLAND, CHAPMAN, JACOBS, WOMBLE, HESTER, BAKER, GRIMMER, TRAWICK, SHOUTER,
STRINGER, MONTGOMERY USA/AL/GA/FL/SC/NC/VA early 1700s until Present

SMITH, SCOTT, PRITCHARD, KITTLE, DENNISON, SKIDMORE, SHELTON, DALTON, THARP
OR THORP, GARVIN, MOODY, JOHNSON, STALNAKER, CRAWFORD, SKINNER, DAVIS, HENKLE
USA/WV/VA/PA/NJ/IRELAND/SCOTLAND/WALES/GERMANY early 1700s until Present

GROVER, TORRY, MOORE, ADAIR, HENDERSON, SAYELS, MCMURRAY, GANER, WOOD,
LEWIS, MCALISTER, MCSWEENEY
USA/VT/NY/MA/IRELAND/SCOTLAND early 1700s to present
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:41:27 MST
Reply-To:     Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU>
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Denis Reid
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 Sorry to post this to the entire list.  I've tried every e-mail address
 to Denis I have available and can't make a successful path.  If he
 reads this list, or someone knows of a path that works please drop
 me a line - I'd like to compare notes with him --

 THANKS

---  Robert (Reid) Wier

- Bob Wier

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                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | WB5KXH | fax:602 523 2300
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:51:21 PST
Reply-To:     "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 28-Dec-1992 1044" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
From:         "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 28-Dec-1992 1044" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Henkle Query
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Due to new information that I received from Sue Funk, I've added another
surname to my research list. Andrew Johnson married Hannah HENKLE, their
children were John, Charles, Robert, Oliver, Jacob, Levi and Margeret.
Margeret Johnson married Andrew Skidmore in 1783.

What I like to find out is what country of origin is the surname HENKLE
(sounds German to me) and if anyone else is researching the surname HENKLE.

Thanks

Mike

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Mike Holland
Digital Equipment Corp.
305 Rockrimmon Blvd.
Colorado Springs, Colorado
(719)592-5964
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For myself I'm researching the following surnames:

HOLLAND, CHAPMAN, JACOBS, WAMBLE OR WOMBLE, HESTER, BAKER, GRIMMER, TRAWICK
SHOUTER, STRINGER, MONTGOMERY USA/AL/FL/GA/SC/VA early 1700s until Present

SMITH, SCOTT, PRITCHARD, KITTLE, DENNISON, SKIDMORE, SHELTON, DALTON, THARP
OR THORP, GARVIN, MOODY OR MODE, JOHNSON, STALNAKER, CRAWFORD, SKINNER, DAVIS,
HENKLE
USA/WV/VA/PA/NJ/IRELAND/SCOTLAND/WALES/GERMANY early 1700s until Present

For my wife I'm researching the following surnames:

GROVER, TORRY, MOORE, ADAIR, HENDERSON, SAYELS, MCMURRAY, GANER, WOOD,
LEWIS, MCALISTER, MCSWEENEY
SCOTLAND/IRELAND/USA/VT/MA early 1700s to present
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Copying CD's, etc.
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 19:44:41 GMT

fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU (Frieda Davison) writes:

>One quick note on the idea of reproducing CD's and library sharing.  As
>Gary Warner indicated we are "treading lightly" on these issues.

As a proponent of free enterprise, capitalism and all that this entails, I 
have no real problem with realistic copyright laws that aim to protect the 
ownership and investment someone made to produce a product - even a book.

If 5 years is a good cut-off point to protect such an investment, so be it. 
Personally, I would be willing to purchase whatever I'm looking for. I even 
prefer to own my own books for reference in my own space at my own 
convenience.  My problem is that the things I would like to see or have
generally can't be purchased. Items published within the last 5 years may well 
be available for purchase and should be held back from free circulation lest 
no one writes anything anymore.

On the other hand, some publishers may well wish to attempt to market CD's as 
this medium becomes a profitable avenue to raise revenue.

Fred obviously
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
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