HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties,soc.culture.african.american,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:52:01 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


    The best way to make them look like fools might be to ignore them, however
    in this day and age, when we are in the middle of a recession that is 
    hitting middle-class and lower-middle-class whites hareder than a lot of
    them have ever been hit economically.  As a result, a lot of them are 
   feeling angry and looking scapegoats, and might be a lot  more succeptible
   to the message the KKK is offering.  Take into consideration, as well, that
   in alot of areas the Klan is chucking the white robes for Brooks Brothers
   Suits.  And instead of a message of outright hate, more and more often
   they are simply claiming to be protecting their own.  The Klan may well
   have become to smooth to ignore, and too difficult to simply lable as
   ignorant fools.  The question is: How do we respond to the new Klan?

   Counter protest is a strong option, but it must not be a protest
   consisteing of namecalling and threats of violence.  The Klan must now
   be out-classed (and when you think about the kind of people they REALLY
   are, it shouldn't be hard to outclass them.).  Civil Rights activists
   should take a lesson from the Klan, and learn how to manipulate the
   media as well as they seem to do simply by threatening to march.
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
From: mpd@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: A Collection of Amazing Facts!
Organization: Small Business Systems, Incorporated, Esmond, RI  02917
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:59:17 GMT

gunter@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Gunter Ahrendt) writes:

>Number of human beings who could be fed by the grain and soybeans
>eaten by U.S. livestock:  1,300,000,000

>Percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock:  90

[more fairly useless statistics deleted...]

This assumes:

  1. The grain is of "human consumable" quality, which most of it
	is not. Most grain fed to livestock is below human
 	consumption standards.

  2. Proper transportation systems are in place to distribute
	said foodstuffs to all starving individuals... Which is
	also hardly the case, as there currently exists an
	overabundence of food in the world today, and there is
	no need for anyone to starve, except for the fact that
	poor logistics/distribution systems exists, and 2) it
	is not in the interest of some foreign governments (ie:
	Ethopia) to feed their starving citizens.


>Sources:  "Vegetarian Times", 4/90; _Diet for a New America_,
>1987; "World Watch", 4-5/91.

Nah, no hidden political agenda in any of these sources....

MD
-- 
--  Michael P. Deignan                      / 
--  Domain: mpd@anomaly.sbs.com            /   I'm not a bigot,
--    UUCP: ...!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!mpd  /    I hate everyone.
-- Telebit: +1 401 455 0347              / 
Xref: sparky alt.activism.d:1652 soc.culture.jewish:8015 soc.motss:20349 soc.rights.human:1435 alt.discrimination:1602 alt.society.civil-liberties:523 soc.culture.african.american:4598 alt.censorship:3312
From: proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties,soc.culture.african.american,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:22:16 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Apr14.051539.10528@wpi.WPI.EDU> entropy@oconnor (Lawrence C Foard) writes:
>In article <f7Fv029B0fw=01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>>There is one condition.
>>1. They should not be allowed to wear hoods.  The hoods conceal their
>>   identities which ahould be known if they plan to rally.
>>
>>
>>Personally I like to know who my enemies are.
>>I like vocal racist.  Why, because I know where they are coming from and
>>can try to avoid them.  The ones you can't see are the ones to fear.
>
>There is a solution, get a bunch of people together to track them when they
>leave, find out where they go, and publish names and photos of them without
>there hoods. I bet many of them will be to cowardly to show up when they know
>that people will find out who they are.
>

Hmmm ... and when the Government shows up at all demos, photographs
all the protestors, perhaps takes everyone's fingerprints, what will
you say then? That honest protestors have nothing to fear by being
identified?

I hate the KKK as much as anyone, but once you start restricting
the First Amendment, you are on a very slippery slope.

Paul
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: Dumb question
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:04:35 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

schar@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com writes:
>What should get posted in alt.activism.d instead of just regular ol'
>alt.activism?

When Jym bitches at you for not posting in alt.activism.d instead of
alt.activism. 

>What does the "d" stand for?

"Dumping ground."  It's supposed to stand for "discussion" as in
discussion of things posted in alt.activism.  In reality, it means a
lot of people subscribe to alt.activism and not a.a.d.
-- 
Your computer comes with a CPU, a printer, a keyboard, and a mouse.  Isolated,
they are useless.  Together, they are useless in a more complex way.
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties,soc.culture.african.american,alt.censorship
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:05:32 GMT

I understand the KKK is going to have a demonstration in
Cincinnati; and people are divided as to whether it is proper to
prevent their speeches from occurring or not.

I don't have any particularly strong opinions on the ethical aspects of
the matter. But aren't there more clever -- and more effective --
themes for a counter-demonstration than just drowning the bastards out? 
Aren't there
better ways to make them look like fools than that? 
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties,soc.culture.african.american,alt.censorship
From: manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis)
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Organization: Institute for Pure and Applied Eschatology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:31:27 GMT

Well, having already misquoted Anatole France (one person has already
taken me to task for quoting `the law in its infinite majesty permits
rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges', when in fact the operative
verb was `forbids') here I go again...

The issue here is not expression of a repugnant opinion (I have not, for
example, suggested, and would not support, the drowning out of a Pat
Buchanan or David Duke). It specifically consists of fighting back
against an act of intimidation. 

The Klan originated as an attempt to deprive newly-liberated blacks of
their civil rights.  KKK rallies are an attempt to frighten those who
are for racial, ethnic, or sexual reasons powerless. They don't so much
propose specific programs, but simply display their (assumed) power.
That's why they generally pick black areas (the Nazis wanted to march in
Skokie, because it had, at the time, a very high percentage of Jewish
Holocaust survivors).  As such, the issue here is to discredit that
claimed power.  By drowning them out, one is responding not to their
perverted ideas, but their attempt to present themselves as a power
elite.

This most emphatically does not include violence (which would lower the
protestors to the level of the Klan), but simple chants like `Hey, hey,
hey/KKK/we want you/to go away.' Polite, courteous, but clear. By doing
this, the protestors show that (a) the Klan does not frighten them, and
(b) the Klan speaks for nobody but itself. 
--
\    Vincent Manis <manis@cs.ubc.ca>      "There is no law that vulgarity and
 \   Department of Computer Science      literary excellence cannot coexist."
 /\  University of British Columbia                        -- A. Trevor Hodge
/  \ Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1W5 (604) 228-2394
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Re: Jerry Brown's Agenda For Destroying America
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 06:33:36 GMT

For further information see:

Author:        King, Dennis.
Title:         Lyndon LaRouche and the new American fascism / Dennis King. 1st
                 ed. New York : Doubleday, 1989.
Description:   xv, 415 p., [8] p. of plates : ill. ; 25 cm.

Notes:         Includes index.
               Bibliography: p. [379]-397.

Subjects:      LaRouche, Lyndon H. -- Political and social views.
               Politicians -- United States -- Biography.
               Fascism -- United States.
               United States -- Politics and government -- 1981-

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties,soc.culture.african.american,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:43:49 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <dragon.702962857@camelot> dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth) writes:
>In <1992Apr9.231614.17905@ucunix.san.uc.edu> schectr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (ROBB SCHECTER) writes:
>>**                    THE  KKK  ARE  COMING  TO CINCINNATI                 **
>>**   - On University of Cinncinati campus, we have started organizing a    **
>>**         counter-demonstration.  The general idea is for it to be        **
>>**         confrontational but not violent.                                **
>Sorry, you lose me here.  I may, and in fact *do*, disagree with what
>the KKK has to say.  However, they have a right to say it.  The First
>Amendment applies to them, too.

Why do people constantly make this fallacious argument about the First
Amendment?  Does the Ku Klux Klan's First Amendment rights suddenly
preclude the First Amendment rights of those who wish to hold a 
counter-demonstration?
-- 
Ted Frank          + "He wanted to be the car rather than the thimble or the
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  hat."  -- District attorney explaining Marc Cienkowski's
U o' C Law Skool   +  murder with bow and arrow of Michael Klucznik in
Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
From: lpb@STRATUS.SWDC.STRATUS.COM (Len Bucuvalas x5363)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Artemis Page Has No Balls for the Truth!
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:18:47 GMT

And to denigrate a near-to-famous television character personality. Not
only do you have no balls, but you are also sinking in imagination.

This is a DIRECT CHALLANGE TO ARTEMIS PAGE:
I don't think he/she/it has the balls for it but: You want to know the truth
about AIDS or are you just another highly paid government SLUT? If you
wish Truth, lpb@stratus.swdc.stratus.com......easy isn't it.

Len


Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Subject: Re: Info: Info on the FED - Rockefeller
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 06:08:53 GMT


In an article on this thread Don Allen makes quite a few good 
points, and then says something that is kind of questionable.

He said (approximately - I'm quoting from memory)

"I did NOT call them Jews. They are NOT. They are Kharzian Hittite
SERPENTS and they are the enemies of mankind no matter what
names or organizations they may hide behind".

Well, I'm not to familiar with the arguements about who are Jews
and who are wrongly called Jews when their actual ethnicity is
something else, and frankly I doubt the importance of that particular
question. I'm sure that whatever the proper name of this group might
be PEOPLE WITHIN THE GROUP probably conspire. Just as do people from
the multitude of other racial and ethnic groups on the planet. And
almost certainly, the large body of common people from the group in
question are decent folks who desire nothing more than to live
peaceful and worthwhile lives, as do all or most of us here. Their
only connection to conspiratorial elites within their ethnic group
is as victims, and perhaps occasionally as dupes. 

In short, unless there is actual hard evidence of Kharzian Hittite
conspirators, it is inaccurate at best and racist nonsense at worst
to characterize them in the terms Don has used.

Please, Don. Either speak more precisely, or if you actually
INTEND to indict an entire race, please give your evidence.

-Steve
(oops) My remarks above should have read "In short unless there
is actual hard evidence of a race of Kharzian Hittite conspirators...
                           ^^^^^^^^^
Xref: sparky alt.activism:7583 alt.activism.d:1601 soc.culture.jewish:7867 soc.motss:20051 soc.rights.human:1371 alt.discrimination:1479 alt.society.civil-liberties:480
From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Date: 11 Apr 1992 21:08:29 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: Think a Moment....
Keywords: Use Intelligence

In article <1992Apr11.112826.5477@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr) writes:

>But they have a right to make as much noise as they want as well in an
>effort to drown out the hateful speach of the KKK.  No one disagrees
>that they have a right to speak, it's just that the rest of us have a
>right to try and drown them out...
>
>	-Phil

Let's think about this for a moment....  After all, that's what
our brains are for, right?

Let's take two people.  You and I, for example.

Let's say that I'm a KKK member, and you're not.  I have
different opinions than you do.  I wish to speak my mind, and you
wish to speak yours.  According to Free Speech, we have the right
to do so.

Let's take another person as an audience.  They have no view on
the subject of 'Is Segregation Good?'  I wish to argue that is
is, and you wish to argue that it isn't.  We are allowed to
express our ideas.

Will you shout over the top of me, so that my argument cannot be
heard?  Will you physically threaten me if I do not keep quiet?
Will you take action to keep me from speaking?  Will you plug the
ears of our audience to keep him or her from listening?

If I tried any of the above on you, would you feel that your
rights of Free Speech have been violated?  Would you feel that 
action should be taken against such violation?

I would....  

Personally, if I had an opinion and you had one, I'd let you 
voice yours, and then I'd voice mine.  I'd disagree with you.
I'd argue that my opinion is better, and I'd tell the audience
why.  But the audience has to make up their own minds.  Do I have
the right to 'protect' grown adults from listening to you, if I
think you're wrong?  I don't think so....

-Nick

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.individualism,talk.politics.misc
From: jyanowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Justice Thomas (was Socialism Security Rides Again)
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:13:17 GMT

In article <kumu6dINNoo1@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
> In article <167C9ED20.KENH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, kenh@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ken Hudson) writes:
> |> In article <1992Apr9.141507.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>
> |> jyanowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
(aaargh...I (jyanowitz) in no way wrote the text attributed to be in the
paragraph below.)
> |>  
> |>  
> |> The main reason Thomas is attacked is because he was the first nominee
> |> to be qualified only in name...Unlike the others, he was not a long time
> |> scholar or Judge, and was clearly groomed to be a political conservative
> |> appointee to the court...In this sense he comes off as a political
> |> lackey, not a first rate Judicial mind...I wonder who is really racist
> |> here...If he were white and appointed under the same circumstances he
> |> would make an appropriate target:  why do YOU distinguish between the
> |> two?  Color of skin, it would appear.
> |>
Gosh...You are right.  I am distinguishing based on the color of skin, and
saying "because he's a black man, it seems to me a lot of the criticism
skirts dangerously close if not crossing over into racism."  The reason I'm
distinguishing between the two is that there is a history of anti-black racism
in this country, and there isn't a history of anti-white racism.  Therefore,
when a black man (and the first dark-skinned black man) gets on the Supreme
Court and undergoes a derision unheard of with Souter, Kennedy, Rehnquist,
et al (with the possible exception of Bork, but the situation is different,
in that Bork was attacked on his ideas, whereas Thomas, who was perfectly
nailable on his ideas (and his associations, he has close ties with lobbyists
to help the ruling South African government in congress) is instead attacked
on tradiational "lynching" grounds, AND no one comments on that) I get
annoyed.  A prime example of this is  sign I saw in Washington at
the so-called reproductive rights march (it wsa really an abortion rights
march) which read "Thomas, keep you horny hands off of Roe v. Wade"  It
didn't say "Supreme Court" it said "Thomas" and given the history of
myths around black male sexuality being used as a "justification" to lynch
black men, I found this sign quite offensive and perpetuating of racism.
(Oh, and to the people over at B-CPU, please don't start posting messages
on how lynching is just a big hoax)  
> |> An arch-conservative Black Justice who had been on the bench for years
> |> (i.e. earned his stripes) would NOT be ridiculed in this manner...
> 
Maybe you woulnd't ridicule him in this manner, but I find it difficult to
believe that you speak for everyone...
[Text deleted on Earl Warren, etc...]

-- 

Jason

Xref: sparky alt.activism:7801 alt.censorship:3357 alt.conspiracy:6421 talk.politics.misc:18474
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: HOLOCAUST MYTHS
From: mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:10:56 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Question for you netters who (unlike me) have been following this guy's posts:

>      The media's use of the Laugh Track is to destroy our
> morals, ethics (including work ethic), educational system and
> family unit.  Theft, drugs, prostitution, rape and murder
> (anything illicit) rate laughs, including incest.

   Is this guy _serious_??????
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.conspiracy
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Wackenhut data part 1
Keywords: Wackenhut,security,prison,nuclear,Energy Department,Army,CIA,Casolaro,Riconosciuto,Inslaw,investigation
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:44:24 GMT

seraphim@ais.org (Henry Hardy) writes:
>Here is the information I've been able to come up with so far on the Wackenhut
>Corporation. The data is pretty raw, and is being posted here immediately for
>the benefit of others who are investigating this business. There are some gems


Full justified text looks good when you've got variable spaces, but
looks like hell on a computer screen and is a bitch to read.  I gave
up after about two screens.  Now you probably don't give a damn
whether I personally read it or not, but I can't be the only one.
Consider running a macro to remove all the extra spaces.
-- 
Excellent day for putting Slinkies on an escalator.
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: FAUST MYTHS
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:02:23 GMT

In article <cHaaJB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP> pfaust@b-cpu.UUCP (Pete Faust) writes:

>     THE GENTLEMAN from Brown University has misquoted me
>again, so I will post the $50,000.00 Offer again. 

> 
><                   $50,000.00 OFFER
> 
>< There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
>< can prove or arrange any one of the following:
> 
>< 2.   Prove there was_one_person gassed in a so-called gas
><      chamber in Nazi-occupied territory during World War
><      II.
> 

The distinguished founder, secretary, chairman, and single member
of the institute for regassing still does not post the name of
the person and/or institute offering the reward for supplying
proof that people were gassed to death by the Nazis. This is
because the revisionists tried this trick once, and it cost them
90,000$. Here is the relevant portion of the court's decision:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Honorable Thomas T. Johnson, on October 9, 1981, took judicial 
notice as follows:

  "Under Evidence Code Section 452(h), this court does take judicial
  notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944" and "It just simply
  is a fact that falls within the definition of Evidence Code Section 452(h).
  It is not reasonably subject to dispute.  And it is capable of immediate
  and accurate determination by resort to sources of reasonably indisputable
  accuracy.  It is simply a fact."
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

If someone is interested in more documentation of this case, please mail
me and I will send him more court transcripts and other documents
concerning the matter.

-Danny Keren.


Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: H. Ross Perot on some issues
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:56:28 GMT

In <45176@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> dev@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks) writes:
>ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu once wrote: 
>>	A while back someone asked about H. Ross Perot and his views,
>> I've finally seen my first article longer than 5 lines on him and
>> here it is.
>How about the April 9th Wall Street Journal? First column, first page,
>and 2.5 more columns of text inside. It is a pretty good article...
>tells a whole lot more than the one posted from the Post.

Anybody want to copy this in without permission?

Dunno when I'd get the chance to look up an old Journal....
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
             Admittedly he was listening to a _Best of Queen_ tape,
  but no conclusions should be drawn from this because all tapes left in a car
    for more than about a fortnight metamorphose into _Best of Queen_ albums
Newsgroups: alt.activism