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From: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Chrispy WVR: Wrestle War '92
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:09:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

Once again, I am posting from a friend's account.  Please direct all replies
and comments to chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
 
From Wrestle War '91 to Wrestle War '92...
 
1) Freebirds vs. Taylor Made Man/Greg Valentine for US tag titles
 
Ugh.  Valentine works more than the Freebirds, and that's pretty bad.
Taylor sat unused during most of this match.  The transition champs give
them up in a lackluster match.  *3/4
 
2) Junkyard Dog/Ron Simmons vs. Mr. Hughes/Cactus Jack
 
Take away Cactus's elbow off the entrance ramp and Mr. Hughes actually moving
a LITTLE bit, and this match is a dud.  I've never been a fan of Ron Simmons,
and this match didn't help.    *
 
3) Brian Pillman vs. Tom Zenk for World Light Heavyweight title
 
Have you ever noticed how Zenk talks to the camera while coming down the ramp?
He's got this really annoying "tough guy" voice.  ("I'm RED-EEEE Pillman.")
 
Check out how he flinches when the fireworks go off around him.  He looked
totally surprised.  I was ROTFL.  :)
 
Actually, the best match I've seen Zenk in.  They both work hard and there
were a few times where Zenk hit moves so well that I thought he would win.
****
 
4) Rick and Scott Steiner vs. Takayuki Iizuka/Tatsumi Fujinami
 
The match known for Iizuka's bleeding nose.  Great power moves by the Steiners
and nice stuff by Iizuka before Rick Steiner's elbow became one with Iizuka's
face.  A very good match that ranked high in the year end achievement awards
for a reason: work so hard that it hurt.     ****1/2
 
5) Larry Zybszko, Arn Anderson, Steve Austin, Rick Rude, and Bobby Eaton vs.
   Sting, Nikita Koloff, Barry Windham, Dustin Rhodes, and Ricky Steamboat
 
Credit goes to Austin, Windham, and Rhodes, who all spouted like gushers.
Great work by everybody, one of the best WarGames there has been to date.
****
 
 
Overall, this tape starts really slow but ends with a BANG BANG BANG!
 
Final grade:  B     ***
 
More reviews to come...
 
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Christopher Palacios               Internet: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
"Whether you like it or you don't like it, learn to love it, because it's
 the best thing going today.   WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" - Ric Flair
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From: rodney@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Rod Hutchings)
Subject: Re: Flair vs. Ramon
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:10:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.201011.4933@oswego.Oswego.EDU> cbcs3440@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock) writes:
>
>
>   Probably a little confusion of recent history. He is talking about Ric
>Flair badmouthing Elizabeth. Jake the Snake never really badmouthed Elizabeth
>during the Jake the Snake-Randy Savage feud that led to the Undertaker turn
>and his feud with Jake.  (He just gave her the wedding present) |:^) 
>

And slapped her around quite a bit when she ran out to try to "save" Macho
Hubby after Jake pounded the p!$$ out of him, then proceeded to slap several
DDT's on Savage while Liz watched.  All the while Jake was badmouthing Liz
(to her face!).

>Jake Roberts' wife was badmouthed by Rick Rude a few years back.
>   

Actually, if memory serves me correctly, Jake was trying to give this very
good looking woman a "Rude Awakening" (the one where he calls some lady from
the audience and plants a wet, sloppy kiss on her).  However, she revealed
that she was the wife of a professional wrestler, namely Jake Roberts.  Rude
then proceeded to badmouth Jake to Jake's wife, to which she responded by
slapping Rude up side of the head.  Rude grabbed the woman and started to
rough her up a little, when Jake came down and all hell broke loose.


Regards,
Rod Hutchings
rodney@riemann.math.mun.ca
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: UW ?
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(Andy Patrizio) writes...
>On America Online, someone said that UW will be appearing in Billerica, Mass.,
>against Hercules. He'll be introduced as "The man who used to be called The
>Ultimate Warrior." Gonna be kinda tough to put on a t-shirt. :-) Anyway, this
>guy also claims that Hellwig will get $1000 per show. Take it for what it's
>worth. I don't believe all of it... but if anyone in that region can confirm
>it, let us know.

    I'm not sure where it was (someplace in Massachusetts in any event) but
Hellwig did do a run-in on Vince Apollo (?) as a favor to promoter Wendell
Weatherbee.  He is doing a follow-up shot vs. Hercules early in January.
Since the name "Ultimate Warrior" is owned by McMahon, he must call himself
"The Man Formerly Known as Ultimate Warrior".  Meltzer reported that Hellwig
will be paid $4000 for his "favor" to Weatherbee.  Originally, he was asking
$8000 for indie shots (!) but I guess he backed off since nobody in their
right mind will pay him that much.  He's not worth it.

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Eric Chmiel**********************************
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Smoky Mountain - 18 O
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

TB>Anyone know who Dixie Dyno-Mite is?

Scott Armstrong.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . Friends don't let friends type drunk!
               
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From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Flair injury (was Re:RR/WM9 THE Prediction)
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:17:46 GMT

In article <5404.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
> WO>I'm curious, Isn't Flair supposed to be taking a few months off?  He is
>   >scheduled to wrestle Bret Hart January 1.
> 
> WO>Does that mean the inner ear infection has just a hoax?
> 
> No, it means that the man has amazing recuperative powers.
>                                                                                                 
   For a guy that doesn't like McMahon you sound just like him (-:

-- 
"Any comments, opinions, and views expressed here (on Usenet) are MINE
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From: jbeverly@adobe.com (Jamie D. Beverly)
Subject: Re: Big Charlie O
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:44:49 GMT

In article <1ha5scINNl9i@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM
(David Scheid) wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven't heard or seen Charlie since 74-75. He had a restaurant
> in San Ramon, which I'm sure has long been sold. He used to
> live in San Leandro up on the hill above the Hospital. The homes
> overlooking the Bay and costing lots of bucks.
> 
> Truly the greatest skater. He had so many broken right wrists and
> forearms such that a whole industry was seeminly invented around his 
> injuries. The 1st removeable plastic casts were designed for him. This 
> was to protect his fragile bones while skating or after a break (which
> was frequent) but allow him time to air his skin and excercise his
> tendons. Now we have heavy aluminum and cloth with Velcro.
> 
> ---
> Dave Scheid - All Disclaimers Apply

Wow, what memories. I had forgotten Mike Gammon's name. How about Kate
Weston? And who was the little guy? He would get a double-whip, and hang on
one foot for forever and a day... I just can't remember the name. It used
to be Big-Time Wrestling with Pepper Gomez, Ray Stevens, Pat Patterson,
Haystack Calhoun, Chief Peter Mavia (sp?), The interns. Then.... Roller
Derby!!!!
  

Jamie D. Beverly
Acrobat Technical Support
Sugar Bombs Roadie
Adobe Hounds of Rebound All-Time Leading Scorer
From: steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: What is a suplex?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:06:51 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan3.220840.9846@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:
>In article <1i3l8sINN5t3@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa) writes:
>
>> You can't do a suplex to someone coming off the ropes. 
>
>Ever see someone catch someone who was running at them in a waistlock and
>belly-to-belly suplex them? Owen Hart has been known to do this rather
>well.
>
>Let's see. You want a definition of a suplex now...

	Agreed. Actually, right after I posted I remembered Scott's tilt-a-
whirl which is in this category. However, neither Scott nor Owen are in the 
game the person wanted instructions for. I still could have flamed him :)

>
>> Alright, how about you start in any kind of hold and drop your
>> opponent onto his back. This is as close as I've come, but I think it allows
>> things which I don't consider a suplex, like a body slam or Razor Ramon's 
>> finisher. 
>
>I would add both wrestlers actually falling to the mat. Still a little
>vague as one can execute a gut wrench suplex without falling. It should also
>be performed in one fluid motion, excluding the likes of the "Razor's edge".
>
One fluid motion? That would rule out vertical suplexes, so that can't be it.
After more thought, and quite a bit of playing with wrestling figures, (You
know you do it, don't flame me for playing with dolls!), I've come up with what
I think is a workable definition of suplex.
"A suplex is any move in which one wrestler grabs another in such a fashion 
that would allow him to lift the other off the mat, and then drops him onto his
back without releasing the original hold."

I like this one because it excludes a body slam, but includes *most* everything
else I consider a suplex. Notable exceptions are the gutwrench and the tilt-a-
whirl, but both of those are possibly non-suplex-ish. Also by using my
definition, both the "Razor's edge" and one form of the power bomb would have
to be considered suplexes. Further honing of my definition is encouraged.

>An interesting thread would be to name as many different suplexes 

>Northern Lights suplex (belly to belly into a bridge for a pin)

By this one do you mean the "Perfectplex"? I would not call how that one
begins a belly-to-belly at all. However, I can't visualize how a belly-to-belly
could possibly lead to a bridge. 

			Steve "next I'll try to define life" Sousa

John Larroquette: "OK, what's the 368th most shocking fact you could tell me?"

God: "Professional wrestling is REAL!"

John: "Wow!"

		-from an old Saturday Night Live I just watched. ROTFFM!
								(for minutes)
From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Strongbow -- Read This!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 19:14:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

According to a recent post, WWF middle management, including Strongbow,
read these posts...so.....

I just wanted to say that I STILL think Chief Jay Strongbow was the
single most entertaining wrestler of all times!  Nobody had his moves 
(although Warrior copied some of them) and the tag team match with
the Executioners was still one of the best I've ever seen.  THANKS
for great entertainment!

And here's an idea.  Lots of wrestling fans enjoy watching and/or
talking about older matches.  Why not have a nostalgia segment
on the syndies, showing one match from many years ago.  I bet
a lot of people would like to see Haystacks Calhoun, the match
I mentioned above, Gorilla Monsoon vs. Ali, etc.  The segment
could be used to promote the sale of videotapes of old matches
too.

					Chief Jay Strongbow fan


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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Koko B. Ware wins USWA title, turns heel
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:10:15 GMT

According to the latest PWI Weekly, Koko B. Ware won the USWA title
from Jerry Lawler and apparently Koko turned heel in the process.

He used an illegal piledriver on Lawler, after Lawler was attacked by
Mike Samples and Bert Prentice.

Although no date was given for the title change, it apparently took
place approximately the same time Lawler went to the WWF as an
announcer.

One wonders if this means the end of High Energy, or whether Vince
will continue to use them as faces, while Koko is a heel in USWA. If
this is the end of High Energy, what will happen to Owen Hart?

Just doing my job,

Merry Christmas to all.

Michael
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From: jbeverly@adobe.com (Jamie D. Beverly)
Subject: Re: Lawler as announcer
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:33:41 GMT

In article <92357.102753IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
(Solipsist@Large) wrote:
> 
> The King announcing on Superstars reminds me of the art form
> Heel Announcing is...and how unartistic most heels are.  However,
> did anyone else notice Lawler bad-mouthing Jimmy Hart?  Is it
> possible?  Is Vince actually *admitting* the past in *another*
> *organization?*
> 
> Specifically, when Money Inc. was coming out to wrestle, Lawler
> started talking about how untrustworthy Hart was -- and how he
> might be setting up one of his wrestlers for a fall.  Heenan
> made the obligatory `Jimmy's a businessman' comments and McMahon
> McMahoned -- but Lawler's comments seemed out of character for
> the All-Heels-Like-Each-Other world of the WWF.
> --

This wasn't the only case. When McMahon introduced the Steiners, he talked
about their having been tag-team champions, and being known the world over.
He was pretty obvious in his wording. "THE WWF has signed" was added in.

Jamie D. Beverly
Acrobat Technical Support
Sugar Bombs Roadie
Adobe Hounds of Rebound All-Time Leading Scorer
From: IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Solipsist@Large)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Lawler as announcer
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:27:53 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

The King announcing on Superstars reminds me of the art form
Heel Announcing is...and how unartistic most heels are.  However,
did anyone else notice Lawler bad-mouthing Jimmy Hart?  Is it
possible?  Is Vince actually *admitting* the past in *another*
*organization?*

Specifically, when Money Inc. was coming out to wrestle, Lawler
started talking about how untrustworthy Hart was -- and how he
might be setting up one of his wrestlers for a fall.  Heenan
made the obligatory `Jimmy's a businessman' comments and McMahon
McMahoned -- but Lawler's comments seemed out of character for
the All-Heels-Like-Each-Other world of the WWF.
--
Eric Alfred Burns                        "Life is full of decisions
Solipsist at Large                        but you never get to make any."
"It's all in your mind"
IK20001@maine.maine.edu                           --Linus Van Pelt
From: dennis@uci.edu (DENNIS SIPES)
Subject: Brody's murder
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: UC Irvine
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:24:35 GMT

How did the wrestling magazines handle the murder? Did they mention Jose
Gonzales at all or did they cover it up?  
					The empty box
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From: mrwolf@cix.compulink.co.uk (Colin Bowman)
Subject: Wrestling tidbits                       
Cc: mrwolf@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: mrwolf@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 13:13:00 +0000

Simmons is no longer champion. I believe title went to Vader on 30th Dec.

>>>MATRIX version  1.20g
From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: Happy New Year! & a Trivia Question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:59:48 GMT

bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij) writes:

>What Pro-wrestler appeared on the cover of a Superman comic?

>(1) Name the wrestler.
>(2) Name the title of the story.
>(3) Identify the comic, the issue #, and date of publication.

>The wrestler on the cover appears as him/herself (hee-hee) in
>one short (8 page) story.  The story involves a work, can 
>anyone identify what it is?

I don't suppose any wrestlers were among the celebrities pictured
on the cover of the Superman vs. Muhammad Ali collector's edition?
Or that we can cheat and call MA a pro-wrestler due to his
appearance with Gorilla Monsoon?  No?  Oh well...

I would have to guess that the story appeared in some comic
pre-1976 or so, when shorter stories were more common.  But I
don't remember ever seeing a pro-wrestler in a Superman comic.

I agree with another poster that anyone who can answer all 3
questions (date of publication, exact story title, etc.)
probably already has the comic...

Tom
From: oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Starcade 92
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:55:35 GMT
Organization: Cosmic Monsters Inc.

If you have Starrcade on tape watch the heel dressing room during the
drawing for the Sasake/Barbarian vs. Rhodes/Vader match. After the
Barbarian is chosen, Steve Austin gives Brian Pillman a push from
behind and neither of them look like they're joking around. I don't
know what it means. It was just funny. 

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From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Subject: Re: Joey Aiello - that new WWF announcer
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:06:22 GMT

> pmorris@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>
> Aiello was the head announcer on a Winnipeg-based  wrestling show that we
> used to receive here in Newfoundland called Main Event Wrestling. It was
> on the air up to early this year I believe. Main Event had as the colour
> man Bulldog Bob Brown so I suspect a Stampede connection. Some of the folks
> working the federation were Baron Von Raske (sp?), Jumpin Jim Brunzell, a
> real ham n'egger with skinny physique but a big push whose name I don't
> know but had the audacity to bill himself as the Nature Boy. Also Adnon
> al Kashagi and yes, Bob Brown also donned the tights (a frightening
> experience, let me tell you). In general Main Event was poor, with
> over-the-hill names and a few younger no-names who wouldn't amount
> to much outside a small league. And then there was Aiello...who was
> as cloyingly, stupifyingly obnoxious as he is hinting at on the WWF
> syndies.


What, you don't recall the huge push Diamond Timothy Flowers got while in
that area?  With his custom Piledriver, he ran roughshod over the territory.
From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Prime Time Wrestling - 21/12/92
Date: 22 Dec 1992 22:47:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) says:

>Prime Time Wrestling, shown on the USA Network 21.12.92
>
>Vince announces a format change.  Starting 11 January 1993, the Monday Night
>WWF USA Network shows will be live shows from MSG.  Cool!  Heenan wonders what
>he's going to do since apparently he'll be out of a job.

On the weekend syndie shows in the NYC area Sean Mooney talked about
a new wrestling show that would take place 1/11/93 in the NYC City
Center (no, not MSG) and he called it Monday Night Raw or Monday
Wrestling Raw (the words RAW were big caps and the rest was in tiny
type).  Is this what Vince announced on Prime Time?  (Don, did you
see the syndies over the weekend?  Am I off?).
 
 
>Christopher Zimmerman         =I have my Royal Rumble ticket=
>  / kzim@watserv.ucr.edu / kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu / zimmerma@ucrengr.ucr.edu / 
 
Sniff, I ain't got no Royal Rumble ticket! But I think I'll get over it.

-- 
Just this person's view of netlife.

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From: smaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Maus)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits - 12/31 (posted 01/01)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 21:26:39 GMT


As far as Royal Rumble, who will fill in for Jim Duggan since he has been
canned from the Whiff?! Any ideas??

H A P P Y   N E W   Y E A R   T O   A L L   R S P W   F A N S ! ! ! ! !

Scott " Maniac Moose"

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: WWF Prime Time Wrestling - 21/12/92
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:27:36 GMT

In <1992Dec23.021052.24752@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:

>>AMAZING!!! WJBK is an ACTUAL TV station in Detroit!! But it's not the
>>one what shows the WWF syndie...that's WDIV.
>>
>You're wrong. WJBK televises Wrestling Superstars Saturaday at 11 a.m.  WDIV
>televises World Wide Wrestling at 9 a.m.

You're correct. I was getting the Superstars show on JBK mixed up with
the old NBC Main Event shows on WDIV. It's been two years since I've
seen Detroit TV.

What was that about this group becoming rec.sport.failing-memories? :)

Thanks for the correction.

Michael
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: FAQ and news.answers (was Re: FAQ Update)
Date: 30 Dec 1992 02:47:55 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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In article <BzGn59.CEL@news.iastate.edu>, jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:
|> I read news.answers.  I even posted our FAQ to it!
|> I got turned down.. The moderator didnt think our group was serious 
|> enough to post our FAQ on his newsgroup.

What Mr. Nelson asserts above is not, according to my records (which are quite
extensive -- I save all E-mail correspondence about news.answers), what
occurred.  His submission failed to conform to the news.answers guidelines in a
number of different ways.  Since it is my job as the moderator of news.answers
to enforce the guidelines, I had no choice but to reject his submission.  I did
so, using the standard form that I use whenever I reject a posting.  Included
in my rejection was a specific list of the problems with the submission.  If
Mr. Nelson had fixed those problems and resubmitted the posting, it would have
been accepted for news.answers without further delay.

Many other FAQ maintainers have gone through this process, submitting an FAQ,
having it rejected, resubmitting it with changes, and having it accepted.  None
of them has ever told me that the rejection from me implied to them that I
"didnt [sic] think [their] group was serious enough to post [their] FAQ in [my]
newsgroup."  Therefore, I think that perhaps Mr. Nelson has misunderstood
something.

If he resubmits the posting after fixing the problems enumerated in my
rejection, I will be glad to reconsider it.

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