HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: Gauntlet NYC
Keywords: Prince Albert
Organization: UCCSNCS
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:17:49 GMT

wright@aiag.enet.dec.com writes:
>doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) writes:
>|>My only gripe: I feel they sized the ring too big (I've heard this com-
>|>plaint by others as well).
>2. the larger the ring is (up to a point for a given gauge) the easier it is
>to clean and manipulate to keep the pierce clean and healing well.

Small bead rings can be very difficult to bend closed.
Especially if they're coated with a little blood from a fresh
piercing.  I have a lot of trouble bending my 14 gauge, 1/2"
ring closed.  There isn't much of the ring sticking out and
you don't want your fingers to slip and pinch the skin!

Of course captive bead rings and circular barbells are a
different story but they're not as easy to insert if you're
in a hurry and want to look "professional."

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Rudeness
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:48:21 GMT
Organization: ACME products - artillery division

quark@asylum.UUCP (Dronf Sekat Hsiw) writes:

> dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
> 
> >one thing that is kinda annoying but not really is that more
> >of my friends show off my pierce than i ever do
> >  ,
> >'Dana, stick out your tongue'
> >and then im dealing with someone i might or might not know looking
> >at my tongue, and unless they ask something like
> >'did it hurt?'  i have this gawking person staring at me
> >and i raelly dont know what to say to them...
> 
> I go into showman-mode when that happens.  I'm occasionally asked to do the
> bit with twirling key-rings on my nipple ring at parties.  I've has friends

OUCH! My key ring weighs in at about a pound and a half.. I can't even
imagine trying that! But I do like hanging my sunglasses from them. :)

> ask me to get the watrons' attention by waving a tooth-pick with a little

Watron? What is a watron? Did I miss out on yet another social fad?



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From: Matt.Balara@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Matt Balara)
Subject: Re: Japanese tatt designs
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:54:33 GMT

Andy V.:
	You're quite right, anything by Hokusai would make a *hot* tatt,
especially his famous wave, however were I going for Ukiyo-e copies, I'd
steal something from Yoshitoshi instead.  Any other Ukiyo-e fans out there?

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From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Signs of the times
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:58:27 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Sep13.124123.7498@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:

>You know, it's funny. I have a small tattoo, and I have a pierced ear (yes I 
>know, it's pretty tame compared to you folks ;-), but I get lightheaded and
>dizzy at the mere *notion* of giving blood. I tried to give once, and passed
>out cold before they even got to the needle stage of things!

They don't want my blood. I gave blood twice. The first time I felt really
dreadful for three days, but I thought nothing of it since nobody bothered
to tell me that you're not supposed to feel the blood loss much. The second
time I fainted in the tea-and-biscuits area. They took my blood pressure and
told me not to ever give blood again because my blood pressure is too low.

Owen.

The views expressed are my own and are not necessarily those of Acorn.
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From: jacksons@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sharon Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: funny tattoos
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:46:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	I have a friend in NC who had his social security number
	tattooed on - in bar code. Don't know if the scanner will
	read it tho..

sharon.
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: We live among barbarians.
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 10:21:37 EDT
Organization: Hurts rent-a-dungeon, Inc.

lemaire@redx.washington.edu (Edward M. Galore) writes:

> I rarely catch any flack about my nipple piercing, but when I do I have
> something to say.  If someones asks why I'd want to do "that" to my body
> I say, "Is it really so odd?  Is it so odd for a consenting adult to have a 
> ring put through their flesh in a society which practices the mutilation of i
> 
> Talk about modern primitivism. 

And the kicker is, it's done against the subject's will, and often by
a religious type, as opposed to a doctor.

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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: keloids in my urethra?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:50:28 GMT

Hi there,
   Keloid question, I'm not sure if it is a keloid or what, but here's the
scene.
   Got a PA, year and a half ago, gold bead ring 5/8" id, 14 or 16 GA.  NO
problems what so ever.  Then some months ago put in a 7/8" id, 10 GA stainless,
and, though it took a few weeks, it got to be a nagging pain.  At first I
thought it was the large diameter of the ring rubbing the urethra in places
the old 5/8" one didn't.  But I've got into the habit of taking it out for
intercourse purposes, a drag.  
   Close, and partly boredom driven, inspection seems to show white lumps
on the walls of the peirce hole, perhaps urethral zits (I got 'em every
where else, why not), or keloids.  The urge to lance has not yeilded 
pus or relief thusfar, so I started suspecting keloids.  But as I seem to
recall keloids are a crtilage peirce kind of problem.
   There must be some truely gargantuan PAs out there, any similar problems?
   Oh, I put the gold one back in along with the stainless, and it seemed
better than the stainless alone.  Maybe stainless just "grips" the peirce
hole and urethra a bit more and irritates them a bit.
   I've got a 8 ga stainless on backorder from gauntlet, (for almost 8 weeks
now) that's got a 3/4" id.  So if it's stainless gripping the problem will
get worse, and if its large diameter ring leverage it should get better.
The things I do for science.

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From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Rudeness
Date: 5 Sep 1992 03:07:21 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <MILT.92Sep4151120@primus.esd.sgi.com> milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff) writes:
>
>There's been discussion about doctors, dentists, etc. but what about
>just random people making rude comments.  Twice my SO and I have been
>waiting in line at the supermarket and she'll hear people saying shit
>like "Do you see what I see I?  Yeah, what is it?" (referring to me,
>she looks "normal").  Apparently I just don't notice.

Well, you know, *I* would get in their face and make them wanna
crawl under a rock... something like "what? WHAT? Are you talking
to ME? Is there something cool happening that *I* might wanna
see too??? WHAT???" Just let 'em know you heard and they'll
probably get all embarassed. You could also turn it around and
the two of you could start pointing at *them* and laughing.
Stare at them with a kind of a smirk that'll get them wondering
if they've got something in their teeth. You can enhance
that by pointing at your *own* teeth and giggling. See jerks
like this as an opportunity for entertainment, and they become
much less annoying.

-Barb


        -----Barbara MacRae---------barb@batcave.ebay.sun.com-----

                Women get bitchy, and men tell dumb jokes. 
                 It's nature's way of saying "stay away".
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From: robcruic@intacc.uucp (Robert Cruickshank)
Subject: Re: Perforated pets
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:22:31 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS


Yes I knew about the egyptians and their punctured pussycats- that was part of
the inspiration for wanting to put something in the ear. I too, would never
ventilate kitty without her consent..

---rob
From: wfp@Turing.ORG (William F. Pemberton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: A few short questions (FAQ?)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:56:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.


Is there a FAQ for this group?

If there is, some one please point me to it.  If there isn't, then I
have a few questions that are likely to be frequently asked:

What colors are available for tattoos?  And which are likely to
stand up to time?

How does one go about selecting the person to perform the tattoo?  What
should I look for?

What is the price range for tattoos?


Thanks!

Bill Pemberton
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Subject: Surgeons, M.D.s and piercings.
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:28:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> Even so, it seems plausible that a surgeon could do a piercing.  In
-> fact, for certain piercings, say a hole through one's latitimus
-> dorsi, a surgeon would be my first choice.

 For some reason, that reminds me of last time I was at Madame Tussaud's
and saw a diorama of a device called "The Algerian Hook."
From: t9014192@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Temporary cutting info?
Date: 16 Sep 92 16:12:57 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <1992Sep14.214825.6888@megatek.com>, fritzz@bud.megatek.uucp (Friedrich Knauss) writes:
> In article <1992Sep11.232340.11350@parc.xerox.com> cak@parc.xerox.com (Chris Kent Kantarjiev) writes:
>>Last night, I met a woman who had a lovely cobweb cut into her shoulder. Except
>>this was different -- it was temporary. It had been done last weekend and she 
>>expected it to heal up in another week. She said this is the third one she's
>>had, and none of them have marked her permanently.
>>
>>I'd love to learn how to do this. The only detail I got from her before she
>>had to wander off is that it was done with a scalpel. My guess is that it's
>>just not done as deeply as a "regular" cutting -- but how deep is too deep?
>>There was clearly scab present, so blood must be drawn -- it's more than
>>just scratching.
>>
>>Can someone tell me more about how to do/learn this? Thanks.
> 
> I've tried this in the past, here's what I learned:
> 
> 1) Sterilize! do your hands, the tool, and the area to be cut.
> 	I used rubbing alcohol. (Ouch!). Betadine (diluted) and
> 	HO are probably better choices. 
> 
> 2) Use a _sharp_ knife. I started by accident when I was playing
> 	around with a friends sharp knife that he had just
> 	sharpened. Made a mess too.  Scalpels are good, I
> 	find single edge razor blades easier to find.
> 
> 3) Find which depth works best where. The nice thing about
> 	razor blades is that you can hold them the right
> 	distance from the edge to prevent cutting too deep.
> 	I like about 1/8". The idea is to cut into the dermis,
> 	but not much below that. A good way to judge it is
> 	by how quickly the blood follows the cut. If you have
> 	a bead of blood following the blade you're probably
> 	cutting too deep. Don't be surprised if it takes as
> 	long as 15 seconds for the blood to become visible.
> 
> 4) After care. Keep it clean. I'd suggest washing it with soap
> 	and water about 1/2 an hour after the cutting to get rid
> 	of the large scabs. At that point the wound is still
> 	fresh enough so that you'll get a pretty uniform light
> 	scab in the incision. The skin will feel irritated for a
> 	while, but you just gotta deal with that.
> 
> 5) How long does it last? You will have a noticable scab pattern
> 	for a couple of weeks, after that it becomes an ever
> 	fading scar pattern that dissapears completely after
> 	about a year, depending on your skin and the severity of
> 	the cut.
> -- 
> -- Bones heal - Chicks dig scars - Pain is temporary - Glory is forever
> -- fritzz@megatek.com :wq ZZ QQUIT exitqqq^C^Y^C^C^C^C^C^C^C
> --

      You people are SICK SICK SICK! 
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From: milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff)
Subject: Rudeness
Reply-To: milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: rec
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:11:20


There's been discussion about doctors, dentists, etc. but what about
just random people making rude comments.  Twice my SO and I have been
waiting in line at the supermarket and she'll hear people saying shit
like "Do you see what I see I?  Yeah, what is it?" (referring to me,
she looks "normal").  Apparently I just don't notice.

I don't care if they don't like it (piercings) but it's just plain
rude to make comments like that when we're standing right there.

Suggestions?  Should I just ignore them?  Cause a scene?  Anybody got
any witty comebacks?

-milt

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From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: PIERCINGS
Date: 6 Sep 1992 06:55:23 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
Distribution: world
Reply-To: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <2003.86.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>-> and both said they got sub-par pierces. I would no more go to
>-> a doctor for a pierce just because they're familiar with
>-> needles than
>
> *Doctors* don't handle needles.  They merely tell the nurse to do it.
>The nurse then hunts up the proper lab tech and passes the order along.

Actually, my doctor does. But he's incredibly cool. I still
wouldn't go to him for a piercing, though! %^)

-Barb
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Clean safe place in NYC for earpiercing?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 14:37:14 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  A friend and I are taking a trip to NYC next month and thought it would
nice to get her third and my first earring while there. We'd like just
the basic simple thing like you'd get a department store or the 
Earring Hut of the local mall, but we do'nt necessarily want to go to 
the local mall to do it. Can anyone suggest a reliable, safe, friendly
place in New York to do this? Personally, I'm scared shitless about it,
the idea of someone coming at me with some big KA-CHUNK device is 
kind of disturbing, even though everyone tells me it is NOT a big deal.

Thanks for any help...

Steve
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From: tomtull@bourbon.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Tull)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: RIP: Coulter "Colt" Thomas
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:17:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bourbon



Although I haven't been an active reader or contributor to
rec.arts.bodyart I do think it appropriate to let you all know
that in yesterday's (9/10/92) issue of the Bay Area Reporter (SF)
there was an obituary for Coulter "Colt" Thomas, 5/22/59 to 9/6/92.

Colt was International Mr. Leather in 1983  AND more directly
related to this news group did the first piercings of my nipples in 1987..!

I can still remember the pure pleasure that I experienced as he 
drove the neddle through my nipples and inserted the rings.
Colt also had to struggle with the toughness of my nipples
and that made the sweat bead on his beautiful brow.  If only
I had had the balls to just lick it off.....! 

Colt Thomas and Al Parker passing into the next life in just a few
short weeks of one another, as well as many other of our friends
and lovers.  I just wanted to alert you to this additional loss.

tt
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Subject: Asian style/method
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


->understand that traditionally they were given with bamboo instruments,
...
-> interest in such cultures, I'd like to find out if there is anyone in
-> the US who works in this style, using this method. Specifically

 The only time I've ever come across bamboo tools being used in the US
was in the video "Badlands", or maybe it was "Badlands II".  They showed
some sort of Oriental tattoo convention on the West Coast, and we got to
watch how it was done.  *Very* different than a tattoo machine!  They
use bamboo sticks to shove the ink under the skin.  The general
technique seemed to look more like a crosswise billiard shot than
anything else.

 Just from the look of it, it looks *much* more difficult than a tattoo
machine.  One twitch and...


 The shop where my wife got her tattoo had a stack of
tattoo/biker/piercing videos and a TV to entertain people who were
waiting.
From: quark@asylum.UUCP (Dronf Sekat Hsiw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Rudeness
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:31:06 GMT
Distribution: rec

dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:

>one thing that is kinda annoying but not really is that more
>of my friends show off my pierce than i ever do
>  ,
>'Dana, stick out your tongue'
>and then im dealing with someone i might or might not know looking
>at my tongue, and unless they ask something like
>'did it hurt?'  i have this gawking person staring at me
>and i raelly dont know what to say to them...

I go into showman-mode when that happens.  I'm occasionally asked to do the
bit with twirling key-rings on my nipple ring at parties.  I've has friends
ask me to get the watrons' attention by waving a tooth-pick with a little
flag on it that's through my tongue.  I figure it's a good time to show
off.  A little shock never (well rarely this kind) hurt anyone.  
My brother's response when people ask if his nipple hurt is to look them
squarely in the eye, smile, and say intently - 'Yes'.  

BTW I think my favorite reaction to somone knowing I was perferated was the
comment 'If I knew you better, I'd ask you to show me your penis.'

>--
>If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
>much softer place.
>				   ,
>IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Surgeons, M.D.s and piercings.
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:59:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.23760001
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

lemaire@redx.washington.edu (Edward M. Galore) writes:

>However, I agree that whenever possible an experienced piercer should be
>employed instead.  A doctor who is qualified for surgery may lack 
>all sense of aesthetic.  And I certainly believe a piercer to be
>far richer in aesthetics, and far more worthy of your money.

How about a plastic surgeon?  They are trained to do beautiful things
with skin...  Gosh, I'll have to ask one who's a good friend about
this sometime, whether he does or would consider doing piercings.
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Subject: Re: piercings
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> It would be difficult, anyhow, to find a tattooist in Boston to
-> pierce you since tattooing is illegal in Massachusetts.


 I've heard stories of various places where tattooing is illegal.

 Does anyone have an accurate list of these places?
                                                                                                                 
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From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Subject: Re: Rudeness
Organization: Twilight Zone
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:33:26 GMT

In article <MILT.92Sep4151120@primus.esd.sgi.com> milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff) writes:
>
>	... but what about
>just random people making rude comments.  Twice my SO and I have been
>waiting in line at the supermarket and she'll hear people saying shit
>like "Do you see what I see I?  Yeah, what is it?" (referring to me,
>she looks "normal").  Apparently I just don't notice.
>
>I don't care if they don't like it (piercings) but it's just plain
>rude to make comments like that when we're standing right there.
>
>Suggestions?  Should I just ignore them?  Cause a scene?  Anybody got
>any witty comebacks?

	Usually the best is to ignore them, though there are times when all
	the planets and stars are aligned just so that an appropriately
	clever remark is just what the doctor ordered (so to speak :)).

	But do not become emotionally involved.  As is the case in physical
	combat, it is a very bad idea to do so.  Causing a scene will probably
	backfire on you and is usually the trademark of a social moron
	who lacks any usable levels of personal grace.  I would not give
	another person that much power and control over my feelings that I
	would oblige them with such a response.  Ignoring them will probably
	annoy them.  A witty and poiltely delivered response will perplex their
	small minds and render them with less of a capacity to annoy 
	another person for perhaps several days afterward.  You do society 
	a great service.

	-Andy V.
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From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Rudeness
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:22:35 GMT

What does the original poster have that's unusual that would show at a
supermarket?
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Subject: funny tattoos
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:12:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> 1) a smiley face on the end of your penis (told to me be a nurse who
-> had to catheter him.

 Nah.  It needs to say, "Easy come - easy go."   <grin>
                                                                               
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