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From: scsd1055@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Saints/49ers
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:05:08 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

>From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
>[...]
>So, a commendable game by the Saints, but in the end I think you have
>to say they got out-coached. The no-huddle was a stroke of genius. Well,
>maybe that's stretching it a little. Whatever, the 49ers did what it takes
>to win, which is what winners do.

 	True, about the game being a good one, but I don't know if I'd
call the no-huddle strategy genius...the Saints are notoriously bad
in rush situations.

>Hats off to the Saints. I'm sure glad I'm not a Saints fan; I'd be
>pulling my hair out after the two losses to the 49ers which easily
>could have gone their way. Face the facts, though : the 49ers are
>the better team in the long run.

	Yes, but one day, just maybe one day, I'll have the pleasure
of watching a Saints dynasty...maybe.  God knows we've suffered through
enough shitty luck to last us 25 more years!  Good game 9ers...hope we
see ya'll in the playoffs.


BP -GO SAINTS-
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst Halftime Show...
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <By0259.C3t@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...) writes...
>I nearly had to puke when I saw it...
> 
>Coming Up At Halftime:
>--1972 Dolphins
>--Dan, Al, and Frank
> 
>C'mon, we had to see these morons all through the actual *game* ferchrissakes!

Should this not have been clear (I just read it now), I meant Dan, Al, & Frank,
NOT the '72 Dolphins...

>Who wanted to see more???

Not me, that's for sure...

>					---Chet Zeshonski
>
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Definition of a Lateral
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:21:10 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi,

Now I could be wrong on this point but the way I understood it, if someone
throws the ball BACKWARDS to a teammate during a run, it is considered a
fumble with the teammate getting credit for the recovery.  The touchy
point on this is that if the toss backwards is done AFTER the 2 minute
warning, the ball gets spotted at the site where the backward toss
occurred (I don't think a fumble can be progressed by another player after
the 2 minute warning).  Again, I am writing this from memory so don't take
this to be written in stone...

Of course a flea-flicker pass is different because the person tossing the
ball back to the QB never progresses past the line of scrimmage.

satish nair
go giants


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From: TCDEV009@ysub.ysu.edu
Subject: Re: Okoye again???
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:54:38 GMT

In article <27615@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day) writes:
 
>
>
>  Well, for the last 2 weeks I haven't started Okoye on my fantasy team
>because the general feeling was that Word would be back and hence, Okoye
>would see little playing time. He still only had 8 rushes this past
>week but he scored 2 TD's. Without Word in there, Okoye's getting the
>ball down near the goal line.
>  What's the guess for this week? Okoye or Word? Take a shot at it!!!
>
>K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
>Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
>Code 1252
>Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>*    "The point to remember is that what the government gives
>*     it must first take away."
>*                                        -John S. Coleman
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
    I kind of like Okoye.  Teams seem to have one big back they like to
go to when they get near the goal line.  Maybe O's that guy for K.C.
I'm not that familiar with K.C. but my stats say Okoye and Word both have
3 TDS but O has 30 fewer carries.  Go with the O, IMO.  I have the same
dilemma with Neal Anderson from DA BEARS.  He was my first round draft pick
in my fantasy football league.  Last week when I found out he was benched
I naturally started a different back.  Well, low and behold, he entered the
game and scored 2 TDS.  The guy I started instead(Miami's Higgs) scored zero.
So I lost 12 points.  Now, who do I start this week.  Will Anderson have
another good week or was last week a fluke?  Any Bears fans out there with
a status report on Anderson for this week.  HELP!
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From: mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Subject: Re: Chargers win in middle of moronic "fans"
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:42:09 GMT

In article <41050@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>
>
>SAN DIEGO 14  BROWNS 13
>
>
>Chargers pull out a victory?!! Wow.. I thought I would never say that. Their
>forte is to pull out defeats. 
>
>I felt going into this game that SD had a chance. And indeed they did. Two
>strong defensive units. Two offenses that have played well in patches. The
>X factor was the stadium and the weather.. and it was snowing like hell. 
>
>Nowhere have I seen such moronic behaviour from a bunch of imbecile fans than
>in the dog-pound in Cleveland. Nice outfits, nice woofing... but they are a
>bunch of IDIOTIC BOZOS. They kept pelting the SD players with snowballs 
>everytime they could. The WRs would run routes and get pelted. The punter,
>the kicker, the team would get pelted everytime they were close. Play 
>was stopped once to give them a warning, but it kept going on and on. When

I saw where snowballs could've (if they had better aim) actually knocked
a Charger TD pass out of the air.

If something like this did happen, do you think that the refs could call
a pass interference on the home team, sorta like the noise rule???
Whaddya think?


===============================================================================
Matt Brockman              NFL: Go Steelers!            mbrockma@ecn.purdue.edu
                          WLAF: Go, Go, Glory!
                           AFL: Go Thunderbolts!
===============================================================================
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Sikahema
Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:13:42 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <1992Nov23.155041.28529@cc.tut.fi>, kezerk@cc.tut.fi (M{k{r{inen Matti) writes:
>
>From article <92328.003948DCR115@psuvm.psu.edu>, by DCR <DCR115@psuvm.psu.edu>:
>>     I am a fairly new Eagles fan, and I have a question about Vai Sikahema.  I
>> have been impressed with his play all year, and against the Giants he was amazi
>> ng.  When and how did the Eagles get him?  Was he always this good?  Or has La
>> rry Pasquali, the special teams coach, improved their play so much that he look
>> s more impressive than he is?  I thought it was poor sportsmanship, but extreme
>> ly funny,  when he beat up the Giants sign on the goalpost after returning a ki
>> ck for a touchdown.  Maybe the Eagles have a shot after all. I'm not giving up.
>> up
>
>  I dunno about other seasons, but at least seasons 88 and 89 he played for
>Cards..KR,PR & RB  (at least those)
>
>
>      Kez.
>
>
>-- 


 he was a plan B acquisition from Green Bay this year.
 He fumbled away a game to NY Jets last year in OT.

		******   ******
                     *   *
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                *             *
                ******   ******        and counting down .
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: MNF announcers still suck
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:27:03 GMT

I'll tell you one thing,  it's time for Gifford to pee in a styrofoam
cup.   I'm watching "Monday Night Match-Up" on ESPN, and one of their
last features is a live feed  from the ABC crew  from the site of the
up coming game.  This thing is hosted by Allie Sherman and the Polish
Rifle (Jaworski).   So how does Gifford close his piece?

     "Well, I'm really looking forward  to this match-up  of two
      of the NFL's elite quarterbacks: Dan Marino and JOE Kelly."

I mean, to blow Jim Kelly's name, of all people, before the game, has
got to take having a pretty good buzz on. It's pretty well known that
Cosell used to toss the sauce back pretty good before games.
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: Bills best in NFL--unquestionably!!! Yup
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:29:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

I agree the lls are the Best
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles starting quarterback
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:08:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <8f3OeZq00WB4EK3Zsg@andrew.cmu.edu> cs6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Calvin D. Swartzentruber) writes:
>Does anyone know who will be starting as quarterback for the Eagles on
>Sunday against the Giants?  God, I hope that its not Randall.  If it is,
>they are surely doomed.

Starting QB is going to be Randall Cunningham. He has to get off to a good 
start sunday otherwise he might get pulled again in the second half depending
on how the team is doing...
Randall will have a big game I think considering the odds!!

-Rajeev Sajja
A Scrambling Eagle Fan
From: curtis@optima.UUCP (Curtis E. Dyreson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:05:32 GMT
Distribution: usa

From article <1992Nov17.022745.20060@netcom.com>, by mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers):
>>> But what you're missing is that we're not claiming the NFC has some
>>> built-in magic; merely that it's where the better teams have been for
>>> a decade.
> 
>>All or just some of the better teams?  Enquiring minds want to know....
> 
> In some years, maybe just half.  

Well, I guess it turns out that some does indeed characterize it. 

> In other years, I've felt the best 5 or 6 teams came from the NFC.

Earth to raving NFC lunatic, come in please.  

The sheer audacity of this bald-faced pronouncement forces me (against
my better instincts) to ask for a reality check and perhaps narrow 
down a particular year and the particular teams in question.  
Then we can quibble about scores and records. 

Some years, perhaps a clever, devious argument could be made for three 
teams, four would be stretching things to the limit and require several
leaps of faith, but five or six, surely you jest?

If we go six deep, a team not even in the playoffs is better than the
AFC champ (under the old playoff rules)?  If we go five deep, the second 
wild-card team is better than the AFC champ?  The mind boggles.

Curtis Dyreson
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Troy Aikman
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:34:41 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Nov19.201351.557@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>The point you fail to miss, i.e., blinded by unfailing loyalty,

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  Whew.  I actually think he was serious on this
one.  That makes it even fun...funn..bwwahahahahaha.  Sorry.  I never thought
I'd see the day that Gloria would accuse someone *else* of being blinded by
unfailing loyalty.  Of course, I don't know why I thought this -- he seems
perfectly capable of it, going by past record.

Daniel Welch
From: rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL odds question
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:09:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov18.134738.1@minnie.imd.nrc.ca> kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca writes:
> I checked the paper for the odds today and found two games
> listed as follows:
> N.Y. Giants v Philadelphia,off
> L.A. Raiders v Denver,off
> What does the "off" mean? 
> KM

Maybe it means *no line*. My paper showed the Raiders/Broncos game
spread as *nl*, and it opened as nl. The Eagles/Giants game opened as
a *pickit* (even), but by today, the spread had gone to +3 1/2 pts for
the giants. 

Mark
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Seahawks score... a touchdown!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:10:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov23.014647.8192@serval.net.wsu.edu> jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>This is not a misprint.  I just saw it on ESPN.  Really.
>This is certainly worth a post.  I believe it's their
>sixth of the year, right?
>
>Jim
>-- 
>Jim Jungbauer                 |  Go Vikings, Northstars, Cougars!
>jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu    | 
>EECS Department               |  "Nice move by Bellows... big drive... SCORES!"
>Washington State University   |     -- Mike Emrick, 1991 Norris Division Finals

Better yet, they score 2 (yes count 'em 2) touchdowns and Warren had over
140 yards rushing against the 3rd ranked run defense.  They had a chance to
make it 24-21 but Flores called a bonehead play (Warren was getting 10 yards
per rush but Flore decides to let Stouffer pass when they were in at K.C. 30...
yep you guessed it... INT).  All in all, the Hawks didn't look as bad as people
make them out to be, especially on defense.

satish nair
go giants


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From: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Reply-To: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI 48202
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:20:45 GMT


DV>
DV>Whoever you are who posted this, you are looking very foolish right now.
DV>
DV>As you said.....any given day. Maybe that given day just happened to fall on
DV>Super Bowl Sunday.......look at Buffalo beating the 49ers.....hmmmmm.....
DV>any given day is the KEY.....so take your opinion of the AFC and shove it up 
DV>your ass.In article <1992Nov13.173610.4203@wam.umd.edu>, emdynle@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Em Dyn chi co' em trong tim anh) writes:
DV>|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
DV>|> Path: taco!gatech!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!ni.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!usenet
DV>|> From: emdynle@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Em Dyn chi co' em trong tim anh)
DV>|> Subject: AFC TEAMS STINK
DV>|> Message-ID: <1992Nov13.173610.4203@wam.umd.edu>
DV>|> Sender: usenet@wam.umd.edu (USENET News system)
DV>|> Nntp-Posting-Host: next04wor.wam.umd.edu
DV>|> Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
DV>|> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:36:10 EST
DV>|> Lines: 6
DV>|> 
DV>|> I'm afraid to wake up all you people whose favorite team is in the AFC  
DV>|> because I just realized how weak the AFC is.  Hmmmmmm.  On any given day  
DV>|> an NFC team (the worst) can beat the best AFC team.  For years now the Afc  
DV>|> have whoooped the NFC in the probowl but that doesn't matter.  The NFC has  
DV>|> dominated the Superbowl for years no.  I don't see any change either.   
DV>|> Call me biased because the Cowboys are in the NFC.  AFC sucks!
DV>|>
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills vs. Dolphins
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:33:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'll start with a few disclaimers:

1) I am neither a Bills fan nor a Dolphins fan.  My fav team has beaten the
Bills when they needed to (20-19) and the Fins never really got in their way.

2) I am not involved in THE BET (Part 1 or 2).

3) Although I think Dan Marino is the best pure passing QB to play the game
ever (period!), I don't have any personal biases against either TEAM.

Having set that up, let me say that the Monday Night game was the WORST
OFFCIATED piece of garbage that ever passed for a football game.  Where did
these guys get their training??  Under the coach who called the Immaculate
Reception??  the Hail Mary??? 

The Bills kept getting generous spots all through the game. Especially in
the last series.

The pass interference call against Miami??? Where???  Get glasses coaches,
get glasses.

When Bills TE McKeller got into the fight with Miami defender Coleman, I
though "Oh... the Bills blew that one."  Lo and behold, penalty against
Coleman.  What sort of crap is this??

And my personal favorite, Kelly is about to be sacked by Coleman, he tosses
the ball away.  I'm still waiting for that intentional grounding call.

The Fins were no better.  Marino kept trying (and succeeding) into drawing
the Bills defense offsides.  

Hopefully, when these two meet in the AFC Championship Game, it'll be more
like a real football game.  (sorry Steelers,
with O'Donnell and Greene out, the Championship game is iffy).

satish nair
go giants
go saints (crush those nasty redskins so we can have a wild-card berth).

From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:22:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Refs Calls (+ attention Dave Mikesell)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

IMO both calls were correct as you described them.  There were some additional
calls that caused controversy but I'm not going to waste the bandwidth.
From: nlatif@widget.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JETS FUCKING AWFUL
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:48:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I just have a question for those who live in LA n NYC area.  Since both cities 
have 2 football teams, do you get to watch both games at the same time (if they
are played at the same time)? 


Azli.
From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GIANTS - Ray Handley has no class
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:30:23 GMT
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <1992Nov16.131151.28795@e2big.mko.dec.com> djp@peewee.enet.dec.com (dave parker) writes:
>In article <92318.110444NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>|> 
>|> Ray Handley has no class. He also has no brains.
>|> 
>|>"Oh boy we are winning 20-7 cause we just got an interception run back
>|> for a touchdown. Now lets show the world what a great offensive power we
>|> are by scoring a much need touchdown under pressure with 2 and 1/2
>|> minutes to go in the game and beat this great powerhouse of a football
>|> team called the Packers."
>|> 
>|>"See...we won 27-7, we really throttled em today heh heh heh, we sure are
>|> a great football team, and I'm sure a great coach full of lots of class
>|> and not horse you-know-what like that poster Nelson would have you believe."
>|> 
>|> Ray Handley, The Dork
>|> 
>|>                                                          Nelson Broat,
>|>                                                          His biggest fan
>|> 
>
>Open mouth....insert foot.
>
>The play you refer to was called by Jeff Hostetler on the field after the
>Packers played too aggresively on the play before where the Giants did kneel
>down.  Supposedly, the Packers were mouthing off about how the game wasn't
>over.  So the Giants kept playing.  Did you want them to keep kneeling and
>get pounded?

even if handley had called this play, i wouldn't have blamed him.  the
giants fans have been riding him hard.  why incur their wrath?  they booed
him for calling a kneel-down play on first down.  why not get the stupid
giants fans on your side by doing something as simple as calling a real
running play?  if you don't score, the fans at least don't boo, and if you
do, then you get a few of the stupid fans off of your back.

and the giants press has been riding him hard, as well.  and again, i
wouldn't be surprised if the press for such journalistic beacons such as the
new york post have an iq about equivalent to the giants point production.
why not shut up the ones who weren't actually watching the game and let them
think you really buried the packers.

>And by the way "this great powerhouse of a football team called the Packers"
>just defeated the mighty Eagles, the same team everybody was saying was going
>to go all the way  ;^)

agreed.

>Dave
>Not a Handley fan either

ditto.
From: fhuang@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (TIRO LOCO)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Warren Moon
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:20:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


   Oh, please. Cleveland finish second? Granted, Warren is an extremely
vital part of the Oiler offense, the Oilers are hardly dead in the water. The
Oilers could do a lot worse than Cody Carlson and they have all the tools
(except dominant linebackers) to finish the season around 10 - 6. Moon's
injury will probably force the Oilers to actually play like a team, with
all units contributing - during the same game - which hasn't happened
consistently this year. Moon injured means that the AFC Central will most
probably be won by Pittsburgh, with Houston pulling down a wildcard spot.
This leaves Cleveland battling it out with Cinncinnati to see who can stay 
above .500 and out of the AFC Central cellar.

-bogueman

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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: NFC EAST SHUT OUT 0-5 THIS WEEK, BABY!!
Originator: delarocq@c00044-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:01:49 GMT





  What?? The whole NFC East lost today?? Starting a trend?? hmm?? :)
  I love it!!!! That's a good question.. Who has the best football team now??
-- 
delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


      
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1988,1989,1990,1991 AFC East Division Champions
1991,1992 AFC Conference Champions

Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
out of Green Bay...
A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BILLS COALITION TAKING THE BET II.
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Cowboy Bandwagon
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 NOV 92 12:13:45    

In article <1dr5haINNjrf@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes:
>In article <JOHNDOE92Nov10.163004@samadams.inmet> johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped) writes:
> 
>>i maintained during landry's
>>last season at 3-13 that the cowboys were only 7 plays from 10-6 and a
>>division crown ... not 7 80 yard td strikes or 100 yd kickoff returns, but 7
>>plays that they executed and executed poorly.
> 
>I'm glad to hear somebody else say this.  I've always thought the
>same thing about that 1988 team.  They'll go down in history as
>a 3-13 last place team, but they were also a team with an incredible
>amount of bad luck.  They started the year at 2-2 and both of the losses
>could have been wins with two of the seven plays you mention.

This is the same refrain uttered by every losing coach since George 
Hallas wore knickers.  Up here in Green Bay were sick of hearing it.  
The fact is that almost every losing team can point to a handful of 
plays that went against them and caused them to lose some games.  

First of all, you're not taking into account the number of plays that 
did go your way.  Secondly, the fact is that your team did *not* make 
the plays.  That's the difference between good teams and bad teams - 
good teams make good plays, bad teams make bad plays.  Finally, good 
teams overcome these bad plays.  They don't let themselves get into a 
position where 1 or 2 bad plays in a game can lose it for them.

JGH