From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'RE THE LIES???
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:27:23 GMT

In article <DENNIS_.115.0@NCSU.EDU> DENNIS_@NCSU.EDU (DGA) writes:

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   I am not saying that Bush made the right decision.  I am saying that he did 
   not make the "read my lips" statement with the intention, at the time, of 
   not following through.  It is not evident to me that he had the 
   careless disregard for the truth that I have seen throughout Clinton's 
   campaign and now in the first few days of his administration.

I guess it all depends on your slant.  I don't know whether Bush made
the right decision or not.  It just burns me up to see someone make
this type of irresponsible statement.  Clinton is just the smarter
politician and taking his lumps earlier.  I saw clip after clip of
Bush making the read my lips statement last night to wildly cheering
audiences.  Politicians are really disgusting.  Bush and Clinton would
have rather chopped their little toe off rather than admit they agreed
on any issue during the campaign.  I don't know how you can say that
what Bush did is any different from what Clinton is doing.  I guess it
just depends on your predisposition.

   After saying the above about the "Budget Deal", I ask the question: What 
   constitues this great mass of lies told by George Bush during his 
   administration.  Not, allegations, but provable and intentional 
   misstatements of thruth.  Perhaps, anyone wishing to illuminate me could 
   conduct a study with an unlimited budget, staff and time limit to research 
   the question.  Maybe the government would even be willing to pay for the 
   work. 

   If you can't back up your claims, please.... Just sit back and enjoy your 
   MTV.  If you can, I am a conservative, my mind can be changed by clear 
   reasoning and facts.  Please inform me, without gutter language if 
   possible.  

Look, all I can say is that it depends on who you "want to believe in
the first place".  So, when your man is giving what you consider a
reasonable explanation, someone else may perceive it as deliberately
twisting the truth to make the situation look better.  The main
problem I had with Clinton was that I thought he wanted too much to be
president.  I don't think there was anything crooked or malicious in
his actions or statements.  He got elected.  How many people who tell
the straight truth get elected?  Maybe if Clinton follows through on
some of his campaign reform ideas there might be a better chance
(Tsongas ran out of money).  I think he handled the marijuana incident
stupidly.  I think if he had released all facts to begin with about
evading the draft he would have caught a lot less flack.  I think the
middle-class tax cut promise and his cutting down of Paul Tsongas
gasoline tax look almost as bad as the "read my lips" thing (Bush was
still saying never, ever again, that was the nail in the coffin for
me).  I don't think the Zoe Baird thing was that bad as far as the
Clinton presidency is concerned.  I don't think the Hatian thing was
that bad since he is following up with real actions to restore
democracy (I can't really remember how hard he was on Bush for this
policy).

I've seen Bush flip-flop like hell.  From his stance on civil rights
early in his career to his economic policies when running against
Reagan.  He seems to change is mind based on the prevailing political
wind (the same jab I've seen made against Clinton).  I believe he
knows what happned in Iran-Contra.  I don't think he really has strong
convictions.  I think he ran for president because he just thought
that was what he should do.  I think it's way too damn early to tell
about Clinton.  I don't think I can change your mind, but I hope
you'll give him at least a year.

   Remember, nobody likes a sore winner!

Amen to that....worse than a sore lose (like below)


   >%                           PREDICTION
   >%
   >%In one year an attempt will be made to hold a recall election for
   >%the office of President of the United States.
   >%
   > right now you're accuracy is at 50%. Just the same as any other moron on the
   > street. 
   >
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