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From: ram@erc-sparc (Robert Malkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: Badminton
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:00:12 GMT
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: >Are there any people interested in badminton and willing to talk
: >about this subject here?

I've been watching this group for about 2 years.  There have only
been about 10 posts about Badminton in that period.  That's probably
not enough to justify a separate group ... but I'm willing to talk about
it. One thing that has been useful in the past is the posting of local
tournaments. 

:Tony Hewitt writes: 
: Relax, Don't worry, have a homebrew..... 

It sounds like Tony's willing to talk about badminton 
(when he's not drinking homebrew - 
or maybe especially when he *is* drinking homebrew).

Bob
From: jkokko@lk-hp-9.hut.fi (Jari Kokko)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 10:17:57 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
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anttipoi@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teemu Antti-Poika)

>The rules in all the pool games of course vary from person to person,
>but I think they have official ones somewhere...

Right, what we use here in Otaniemi are from the BCA in a book called
"Billiards, the rules and records book" or "the green book".

I think the rule to hit a rail on every shot is in the "General Rules
of Pocket Billiards" section, this rule (as I remember) is only
contradicted in the game Cowboy, when a carom is scored.

>This rule confusion is one of the reasons I prefer 9-ball over 8-ball:
>the variations in the rules of 8-ball seem bigger, at least here in
>Finland.

Well said! However, snooker is even more unambigous, only one set of rules,
*pretty well* agreed on.

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From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: HOLMES is fighting
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:39:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.143923.7260@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo) writes:
>Holmes is fighting BIGFOOT MARTIN on TUESDAY on USA.
>
>I am not sure why.
>
>
MONEY? na....
What state is boxing in when Bowe and Holmes begins talking? Heard Mercer had
an eye problem. Had an operation for a retina problem. Anyone hear this?

Anyone see DeLaHoya fight? Looks pretty sharp as a pro. He needs to pick it up
in quality of opposition. Only thing I dont like is the "Golden Boy" nickname.


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From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:02:39 GMT
X-Phone: +44 703 593257

In <C0Cu04.3wp@acsu.buffalo.edu> verch@acsu.buffalo.edu (N0b0dy Imp0rtant) writes:

>    I dont think 9-ball is easier than 8-ball.  Dont forget you have to shoot
>the balls in order in 9-ball, that adds alot of dificulty to shot planning.
>Personnaly, when playing with friends I like either straight-pool or, if there
>are three people cut-throat (elimination.. whatever you call it).

Pah! Real Billiards has only 3 balls :)

Tim
From: jkokko@lk-hp-19.hut.fi (Jari Kokko)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Equal Offense Challenge Match announced
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:23:02 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: lk-hp-19.hut.fi

There will be a challenge match between Utah Weber State University
Billiards Club and SBO of Otaniemi, Finland in the pool game Equal
Offense on Jan 22nd about 19pm GMT.

The match will be between teams of ten players and 5 innings (per
player) will be played, each inning to 20 balls. The team with the
higher score will be declared the winner of the match.  The maximum
score would be 1000 and a score of 300 to 400 should be considered
quite good.

Because only 10 team members are allowed some qualifying must be done.
The SBO have decided to use a system as follows:

	Each player has 5 chances to make a high inning score
	and the ten highest scorers qualify.

I heard from Sven Davies of Weber State that a similar system is used
at that end, too.

So far the highest SBO qualifier has a score of 14 and the lowest 2.
(Sven, how about yours?)

Score updates will be posted,


-- 
Jari Kokko.
From: samuel@front.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Is fencing popular in USA ?
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:10:24 MET
Distribution: world
Organization: Samuel Gustaf Siren

Hello, I have some questions to all you Americans about fencing :
  
  Is fencing a popular sport in USA ?
  Is it regularily shown on local or national TV ? 
  Are the national championships shown on TV ? 
  Are the national champions known to the general public ?
  Is it a typical 'high-school', 'college' or 'university' sport ? Or is it 
  practiced especially in certain states ?
  Which form of fencing is most popular : Foil, Epee or Sabre ?
  Do the rules in USA differ from the European ?

If you wonder, I'm not planning some kinda career as a fencer in USA, I'm
just curious ! 

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From: pat@lk-hp-12.hut.fi (Pat Kuortti)
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Organization: Helsinki Univ. of Tech., Finland
	<torresce.726245476@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>
	<1993Jan5.183346.13834@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
	<torresce.726261656@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:15:36

In article <torresce.726261656@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:

Mystic> I personally like 9-ball the best out of all.  A friend and I
Mystic> used to add rules to make it harder - for example, we had a rule 
Mystic> that we had to touch a side with every hit (atleast one side).  

teemu>Isn't this in the rules then? I've always thought that at least one ball
teemu>has to hit a cushion after the collision (that is, if you don't pot a
teemu>ball.) Without this rule many good players could play it safe for hours!

Mystic>   Well...I've never seen this rule being used in any 9-ball 
Mystic>   championship tournament that I've watched (mostly over TV on ESPN).  

	That sounds strange? I have "the green book's" professional 9-ball 
rules here before me and it clearly says:

	4.3 No rail

	If no object ball is pocketed, failure to drive the cue ball or some
	object ball to a rail after the cue contacts the object ball is a foul.

OR did you mean that you have to hit the rail with EVERy shot, even if
a ball is pocketed? That rule for sure doesn't exist in the professional 
rules.

Mystic>   I've noticed from these championships is that you only want to play 
Mystic>   defense as the last resort.  These professionals are so-o-o good 
Mystic>   that they get it even when snookered!  

The best escape from snooker that I've seen in 9-ball (haven't seen much 
actually) is made by banking the cueball and then hitting the object ball
and pocketing it. Many people can bank object balls into pockets, but
banking the cueball into an object ball and scoring adds some nice touch 
to your game :) (no, *I* can't do it :)


				PK


   "It's not nice to play for money if the opponent cannot afford it"
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From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: HOLMES is fighting
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:39:23 GMT

Holmes is fighting BIGFOOT MARTIN on TUESDAY on USA.

I am not sure why.
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Who am I?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 21:09:24 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  I'm the only coach in history to go straight 
  from the White House to the outhouse!

  Who am I?

  email for the answer!

  bill

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From: verch@acsu.buffalo.edu (N0b0dy Imp0rtant)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Billiards?
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:32:25 GMT
Organization: Society for the destruction of society


         Is their a newsgroup for discussing billiards/pool?  I have found
groups for sports I didn't know existed but i cant seem to find this one..

-- 
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From: sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Quiz question
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:58:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

If anybody reads this group... could they please answer the following question,
which has appeared in a newspaper quiz ? It is

   Who has won the most world snooker titles in the post-war period ?

I suspect it is either Fred Davis or John Pullman but do not really know. I
would be very grateful to receive an answer by E-mail (to sjbuckle@minster.york.
ac.uk). Thanks very much.
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From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: ESPN Billard
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:54:38 GMT

Did anyone see the 9-ball tournament last nigth ? Was that a repeat ? I heard that 
ESPN likes to repeat the show.


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From: anttipoi@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teemu Antti-Poika)
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:33:46 GMT

In article <torresce.726245476@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:
>
> ....
>numeric ball.  I personally like 9-ball the best out of all.  A friend and I
>used to add rules to make it harder - for example, we had a rule that we had
>to touch a side with every hit (atleast one side).  This could be the cue
>ball or the ball we are shooting.  .....
> ....
>	Mystic

Isn't this in the rules then? I've always thought that at least one ball
has to hit a cushion after the collision (that is, if you don't pot a
ball.) Without this rule many good players could play it safe for hours!

The rules in all the pool games of course vary from person to person,
but I think they have official ones somewhere...

This rule confusion is one of the reasons I prefer 9-ball over 8-ball:
the variations in the rules of 8-ball seem bigger, at least here in
Finland.

Teemu

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From: kevin@mpls911.uucp (Kevin Herrboldt)
Subject: Re: Is fencing popular in USA ?
Organization: City of Minneapolis Emergency Communications
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:48:44 GMT

samuel@front.se writes:
> Hello, I have some questions to all you Americans about fencing :
>   
>   Is fencing a popular sport in USA ?

By world standards, no.  But there is a strong following.  It is still
an amateur sport.

>   Is it regularily shown on local or national TV ? 
>   Are the national championships shown on TV ? 
>   Are the national champions known to the general public ?

No to all of the above.  Not even the Olympic fencing gets any TV time.

>   Is it a typical 'high-school', 'college' or 'university' sport ? Or is it 
>   practiced especially in certain states ?

The US is a big place.  Because of this, different parts of the country will
see fencing at different strengths, and the focus will be different.  Most
of the collegiate fencing is in the Eastern US, where all the ivy-league
schools are.  And of course, wherever the population is densest (large cities),
there tends to be more general fencing.

>   Which form of fencing is most popular : Foil, Epee or Sabre ?
>   Do the rules in USA differ from the European ?

Foil is probably the most popular, since it is taught by most coaches as the
'base' weapon.  Epee would be second most popular, followed by sabre.
With the advent of electric sabre, however, I wouldn't be surprised to see
sabre gain in stature.  When most Americans think of fencing, they think of
slashing as in sabre.

The USFA (United States Fencing Association), which runs all national and
a majority of local meets, follow the FIE rules as much as possible.  The
major difference most likely is the equipment requirement, the USFA does not
require FIE uniforms or maraging blades for national competition, due to the
high costs.

Finally, if you are interested in fencing, there is a new news group called
'rec.sport.fencing', which has had lively traffic since its creation.

> 
> If you wonder, I'm not planning some kinda career as a fencer in USA, I'm
> just curious ! 
> 
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From: jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey)
Subject: Horse Racing Game
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:06:31 GMT

I'm looking for any sort of a horse racing simulator.  Hopefully, it would have
a method of figuring out the odds on the horses racing.  Either a thoroughbred
or harness game would be fine, preferably both.  Either computer or just a 
board game would be cool too.  If anyone has any information whatsoever, please
E-mail me, or reply with a post.  Thanx in advance



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From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:11:02 GMT

In article 726245476@craft.camp.clarkson.edu, torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto) writes:
>
>I don't think 9-ball is harder or easier than 8-ball.  It's a different
>game!  There's alot more shot planning involved, but then again - there can
>be alot of defensive playing trying to snooker somebody from the next 
>numeric ball.  I personally like 9-ball the best out of all.  A friend and I
>used to add rules to make it harder - for example, we had a rule that we had
>to touch a side with every hit (atleast one side).  This could be the cue
>ball or the ball we are shooting.  Alot of times this was hard to do and still
>get a good next shot opportunity.  Alas...those were the days when I was good.
>Now...it's been so long, I'll be lucky if I can play a decent game of straight
>pool!
>	Mystic
>


Defensive game in pool is like defensive game in football...not very much fun to 
watch or play. But I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to win. So what happens if 
you snook your opponent on the 8 ball (for 8-ball game), does he loses if he misses 
the 8 ball. If that is the case then what fun is it if you make all 7 ball but missed 
the 8 ball so your opponent snookers you and you lose.

I also remember hearing that on the eight ball you must let the cue ball or eight 
ball hit one rail. Is this true ?

TU
From: wsbusup2@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Boudewijn Wayers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Help needed on puzzle
Keywords: puzzle
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:15:30 GMT
Reply-To: wsbusup2@urc.tue.nl


I am working on a puzzle for which I need to finish a sequence of
names. The names Jordan, Holyfield and Mansell are given and i need a fourth
name to finish the sequence. If you know the fourth name please let me
know via e-mail. If i get an answer I will post it to this group.
The correct sequence is:
            Jordan, Holyfield,..., Mansell.

Thanks in advance, Boudewijn Wayers.
From: darwin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Darwin Devore)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:15:42 GMT
Subject: FORSALE: Forster Croquet Set
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc

>
> WANTED:  Address and/or Telephone # for Croquet Club/Association 
> 
> I am looking for the address and/or telephone number for some sort of 
> Croquet Club/Association that I can obtain the "official" lawn croquet 
> rules from, in addition to obtaining a discount on a top-of-the-line 
> croquet set.  I would like to purchase a nice croquet set for my wife 
> for Christmas.
> 
> Thank you in advance for this information.
> 
> 		Darwin A. DeVore
> 
> 		E-Mail:  darwin@hpfela.fc.hp.com
> 		Telephone:  (303) 229-4431 (Work)
> 			    (303) 669-5403 (Home)
> 
> 
> 	P.S.  I'm talking croquet here, not cricket!
>

Dear Croquet Enthusiasts:

I found an excellent set called the "Stratford Park" from Forster 
Manufacturing that I ordered and received in time for the holidays.  Thanks 
to everyone who replied to my original posting above -- your suggestions 
were a tremendous help.  In fact, I ended up getting nearly a 50% discount; 
unfortunately I ended up having to buy two (2) sets.

Thus, I now have an extra "Stratford Park" 6 person Croquet Set that I 
would like to try to sell.  I am willing to sell it for $67.50 postpaid!  
(I will actually end up taking a small loss on it but I would really like to 
get rid of the extra set sometime soon.)  First offer takes it.

It's a really top quality set and I'm sure you would be pleased with it, 
especially if you're into croquet and/or beautiful wood.  I'd be happy to 
furnish a xerox of the product literature I received from Forster to anyone 
who is seriously interested.

		Darwin A. DeVore

		E-Mail:  darwin@hpfela.fc.hp.com
		Telephone:  (303) 229-4431 (Work)
			    (303) 669-5403 (Home)

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From: tsorvali@lk-hp-4.hut.fi (Teppo Sorvali)
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:48:06 GMT

g9utxu@fnma.COM wrote:
//In article 14064@ecs.soton.ac.uk, tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
//>In <C0Cu04.3wp@acsu.buffalo.edu> verch@acsu.buffalo.edu (N0b0dy Imp0rtant) writes:
//>
//>>    I dont think 9-ball is easier than 8-ball.  Dont forget you have to shoot
//>>the balls in order in 9-ball, that adds alot of dificulty to shot planning.
//>>Personnaly, when playing with friends I like either straight-pool or, if there
//>>are three people cut-throat (elimination.. whatever you call it).
//>
//>Pah! Real Billiards has only 3 balls :)
//>
//>Tim

....hmm do you mean Carambole or English Billiards?

//
//I've heard about this game, especially in the Korean community using pool table 
//without pockets. I was in Chicago a while back and wanted to play some pool and I 
//was in Korean Town. So I stopped by a pool hall only to realized that there were 
//no holes and only three BIG balls. Can anyone explain the rules...
//
//TU
//



Here's general idea about the rules....  

Carambole is played about 10-feet table (warmed one if possible).
There are three balls on the table, one white,one yellow one red. (it
used to be two whites and one red). Cue-balls are white and yellow.I
remember diameter is about 62 mm.  

The object of the game is hit with the cue-ball other two balls on the
table. This is count as a one point. In Three-cushion Carambole you
must hit three cushion before hittin the second object-ball. Hitting
the first object ball and three cushions may be in any order you like.

In basic carambole there certain restrictions how many points you can
do in a area, which are marked on the table.

If you want exact information about rules, you should read book Billards:
The Rules and Records.













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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto)
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:49:00 GMT

pat@lk-hp-12.hut.fi (Pat Kuortti) writes:
>	That sounds strange? I have "the green book's" professional 9-ball 
>rules here before me and it clearly says:

>	4.3 No rail

>	If no object ball is pocketed, failure to drive the cue ball or some
>	object ball to a rail after the cue contacts the object ball is a foul.

>OR did you mean that you have to hit the rail with EVERy shot, even if
>a ball is pocketed? That rule for sure doesn't exist in the professional 
>rules.


Yes, this is what I meant.  Sometimes, it can be very hard (when you're aligned
dead on)!
	Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)

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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto)
Subject: Re: Billiards?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:20:56 GMT

>>numeric ball.  I personally like 9-ball the best out of all.  A friend and I
>>used to add rules to make it harder - for example, we had a rule that we had
>>to touch a side with every hit (atleast one side).  This could be the cue
>>ball or the ball we are shooting.  .....
>> ....
>>	Mystic

>Isn't this in the rules then? I've always thought that at least one ball
>has to hit a cushion after the collision (that is, if you don't pot a
>ball.) Without this rule many good players could play it safe for hours!

>The rules in all the pool games of course vary from person to person,
>but I think they have official ones somewhere...

>This rule confusion is one of the reasons I prefer 9-ball over 8-ball:
>the variations in the rules of 8-ball seem bigger, at least here in
>Finland.

>Teemu

Well...I've never seen this rule being used in any 9-ball championship 
tournament that I've watched (mostly over TV on ESPN).  In general what 
I've noticed from these championships is that you only want to play 
defense as the last resort.  These professionals are so-o-o good that 
they get it even when snookered!  The best thing is to try to stay on 
the offense and in general the only thing that causes them to lose a 
turn usually (instead of playing defensive)is a missed shot (resulting 
from trying to plan too ahead) or not setting yourself up correctly for 
the next shot.
	Mystic

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