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From: dmorse@igc.apc.org (Dorothy Morse)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Somalia - Abilene
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:43:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500428:000:1243
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Nov  4 18:43:00 1992


From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject: Somalia - Abilene

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From: CHELAGOI <CHOWNING@ACUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Somalia - Abilene

A student leader and I spent what we thought would be a short ten minute talk
with the Mayor of Abilene this evening.  The meeting lasted for an hour and
a half.  We went in just wanting some contact people from him and a little
sympathy for the people of Somalia.  He was extremely escited about being
able to help in the project.  He said he had been at the Homecoming football
game and heard the announcement and was moved to know that 83 Somalis would
die of starvation during the 2 hour game.  He called around town making
arrangements for us to appear and raise funds.  He said he would make an
official proclamation that Nov. 14 or 21 (we will decide on Thurs.) will
be Abilene Helps Somalis Day.  He wants to posture it to get the optimum
media attention at the site where funds will be collected.  He is not
up for reelection, he just wants to help.  I am PUMPED.

--- Chelagoi
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: Terri Buchman <buchman@osf.org>
Subject: Re: A matter of life and death
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72413598B010824@alimac26.osf.org>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:08:41 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:08:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.103912.11632@bsu-ucs> ,
02maferguson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>    Should abortion be legal?  Even though I would say no, our
future president 
>would probably hear the majority of pro choicers instead and go
ahead and 
>make it legal.  What I would like to say is that these next four
years could be 
>the most bloodest of times in our lives.  That is if abortion does
become legal.
>For the sake of millions of lives I hope it doesn't.  But I am
willing to put
>my life on the line for another.

How, exactly, do you propose to stop women from exercising their
right to control over their own bodies.  Are you planning on
targeting every clinic and hospital in the US (and it's
territories?)  Will the birth police be infiltrating emergency rooms
to make sure that women brought in for miscarriages didn't somehow
try and abort their babies?  How about women who have found out that
their lives are in jeopardy by continuing a pregnancy?  Are you
omniscient enough to know which women have medical reasons for
terminating their pregnancies from the women who have other reasons?

Why don't you use your energy to lobby for birth control and sex
education instead so that unwanted and unsupportable pregnancies
don't occur.  This is a better way to show the sanctity of life than
harassing women.

TerriB.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: Predictions after a Clinton victory
Summary: uh oh
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:56:52 GMT

In article <7130@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk>, martin@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Martin Gorman) writes:
> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
> 
> >4) Watch out for Country and Western fans - some of them think
> >   *George* Clinton was elected president and will be very disappointed
> >   when they find out otherwise.
> 
> I thought George Clinton was both black and dead funky, from Funkadelic
> and Parliament, two facets that would hardly endear him to the C&W
> community. Are you sure you're not thinking of George hamilton IV?


I thought sure George Clinton was C&W. Well, if not - my mistake.


marc colten

Xref: sparky alt.activism:18444 alt.society.civil-liberty:6471 alt.censorship:8630 talk.politics.misc:58556
From: sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: I Have Been Forbidden to Speak the Truth From THIS Account
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:18:01 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation

In article <1992Nov6.072244.25226@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> guy@coos.dartmouth.edu (Guy Schiavone) writes:
>  Also, judging by your choice of emphasis in the above, you seem
>to imply that one must buy his or her right to free speech, as if
>your adhere to the old "Money talks" maxim not just in its usual
>figurative sense, but literally.  Suffice to say, I couldn't disagree
>more.

Lets try a little thought experiment.  Let's say we transport Mr. Schiavone
back in time to when the Constitution, with the Bill of Rights, was
ratified.  Mr. Schiavone walks into a print shop, and demands that his
political views be typeset and printed, as its within his First Amendment
rights to do so.  Furthermore, he is under no obligation to pay for said
printing work.  What do you think the print shop's owner would say?  Should
he be obligated to meet Mr. Schiavone's demands?  As has been pointed out
ad nauseum, right of free speach does not imply the means of dissemination
are free.  Never have been, and likely never will be.  If you don't like this,
Mr. Schiavone, I suggest you propose a new tax providing funds for free
media access for all, whether that be print, broadcast, or Internet.  Until
such time as said law passes, your demands that AT&T manage their resources
as you see fit is simple arrogance.  BTW, as a system administrator, I never
pay any attention to content of employee posts, unless an illegality is brought
to my attention, which has only occured once.  I however would never presume
to criticize how AT&T manages their systems.  That is 100% their perogative.
-- 
Seth J. Bradley, Senior System Administrator, Intel SCIC
Internet: sbradley@scic.intel.com   UUCP: uunet!scic.intel.com!sbradley
----------------------------------------
"A system admin's life is a sorry one.  The only advantage he has over
Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare.  On the other
hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions
of their own innards!"  -Michael O'Brien
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (It's not what you got, it's what you give)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Summary: Deja vu  
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:51:55 GMT

In article <1dojhnINN8nj@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)                              writes...
> 
>In article <1992Nov4.161616.21762@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>I hope you're a big fan of deficit spending, censorship and all the
>>other things that made this country so great.
>>In your obvious hatred for George Bush and his administration, you
>>seem to have completely overlooked what you chose in his place.  Four
>>years from now, Clinton will be so much a lame duck that Jimmy Carter
>>will seem to have been strong by comparison.  I just hope he doesn't
>>so damage the country that it takes another 12 years to undo it.
> 
>In case nobody has noticed, this is NOT 1976, it's 1932!
>Whoops.  Did I say 1932 again?  I mean 1992.
> 
>Darn I don't know what's come over me.  I get this weird eerie feeling of
>deja vu, like we've been through all this stuff of the past decade and a half
>60 years before.

Amen. I was beginning to think that I was the only person who saw such
glaring similarities. This trade war thing is almost eerily similar.
Does anyone but me feel that this "recession" is much worse than they have
been telling us?

Garrett@Ingres.com
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: INFO - Trilateral Commission Members (Prodigy Repost)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:56:03 GMT


What exactly is the Trilateral Commission??

Both President Bush and President-elect Bill Clinton appear on the member
list.


Simon

Xref: sparky alt.locksmithing:1974 rec.audio.car:4784
From: jmc@thedog.cis.ufl.edu (Justo Casablanca)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: interest in car alarm group?
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:20:41 GMT
Followup-To: alt.locksmithing
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


gary ,
sure i'd be intewrested in a group such as this :) any chance on us getting
discout parts?? heheh  
take care e-mail me or something if the group gets going
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,alt.radio.scanner
From: sysrick@orion.spd.louisville.edu (Rick McTeague)
Subject: Re: FREQUENCIES OF KEEPSAFER (SCHLAGE) SECURITY SYSTEMS ?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:21:25 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In <1992Nov10.063641.20008@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>birnbaum@math.washington.edu (Z.W. Birnbaum) writes:
>: 
>:   I would like to monitor a door and if I know the frequency
>:   of the transmitter, I just need to buy the transmitter
>:   ($33.59) and not the whole system which is more than $150.
>:   I plan to use a scanner to monitor the frequency.
>:   I have already bought the transmitter, and looked inside
>:   but I could not find the frequency written anywhere. 
>:   The Instructions did not contain any specifications, much
>:   less the frequency.

>Hm. You have a scanner. Why not just trigger the transmitter and
>find what frequency it is on using the tool which is designed for
>precisely that purpose?

This is more difficult than it sounds. If I'm right, alarm transmitters like
don't (aren't allowed to) send out a continuous signal when triggered. Instead,
they can only send out periodic bursts, perhaps once every 30 seconds. So,
finding the signal with a scanner is going to be tough, since you're looking
for half a second (maybe less) of activity every 30 seconds. There *might* be
an exception to this restriction if the transmitter is being activated by
a test button.

You would be better off with a frequency counter, but the problem there is that
the modulation of the signal may give false frequencies on the counter (and,
again, the burst may be too quick for the counter to get a lock on it).

Where to look? One alarm system I had used 396 MHz or thereabouts...

Good luck,
Rick
-- 

Rick McTeague
Electrical Engineering Department, Speed Scientific School
University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292
(502) 588-7020

Internet: sysrick@starbase.spd.louisville.edu

Disclaimer: I'm a stand-up comedian; if anyone takes me seriously, I'm
            doing something wrong!
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: jparkyn@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (James Parkyn)
Subject: Re: Master Brass Combination Padlocks
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:42:59 GMT


The best way to learn about the Master and (Open!) Sesamee locks is to buy one
of each for a destructive learning experience. Once you've opened one up you
will learn more than words can tell.
 After examining the insides I found no way to reliably use "feeler guages"
to tell when the flats on the release wheels are aligned or even passing by.
The construction of both brands is such that I cannot see a way to do this and if someone on the net can help on this one, please do. Both types are resetable
and examination will show you that they differ only slightly in where you push 
to set the new combination. 
 Now as to opening them up, the Sesamee is the easiest as they took some
shortcuts compared to the Master #175. If you align the Sesamee so that the 
numbers are facing you right side up look at the stamped brass cover plate
that surrounds the digit wheels. On the left side you will see a small notch
where you can pry the lid up so that it folds towards you. You can then dial 
the wheels and watch the mechanism at work. When you tire of this just force
the lid back down.
 The Master #175's cover plate is more like a sleeve that extends down into the housing. On the outer body you will see a little bit of the end of the 1/16"
pin that holds the whole body together. If you take a small punch and drive 
the pin in maybe 1/16" to 1/8" further you can then push on the shackle and 
force the lock mechanism out. The destructive part of this is that the spring-
loaded balls that hold the shackle can pop loose and you won't ever get it back together properly (any help on this one?). The sleeve can be pulled off and 
you can examine the mechanism.
 An uglier way to get into both of them is to use a pair of wire cutters and
chop out the little bridges between the number wheels and pry up the remaining
brass until you can see the mechanism and dial up the proper combination. This is obviously not a "covert" means of entry, but you could carry one of each 
brand with you and when needed use it as a replacement with the proper 
combination.
 I wouldn't use either of these locks to protect more than a backyard gate
or something equally important.

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: psionic@wam.umd.edu (Sixth Plane of Hell)
Subject: Re: Master-key theory  
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:47:05 GMT

On the subject of master key systems you can try one method to pick them
called appropriately "key picking'

You see in very old lock systems the pins become very warn and the shear lines
in the lock become wider and lose their original tight tolerance. In order
to key pick you need a key that fits the lock. Preferably one with deep
cuts in the blade...now do the following...

1) insert key in lock and apply light turning force in the direction to
unlock the device.

2) At this time start moving the key in and out of the lock (not all the
way out) while maintaining turning force on the lock.

You'll find that many times in worn systems that the lock will open because 
you have actually "picked" it with the key. 

psionic@wam.umd.edu

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Bandsaw Blade Pick Does NOT WORK!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:14:15 GMT

dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
: 
: 
: The person who posted about a Bandsaw blade as a pick in a pin-tumbler lock: It
: will not fit into most locks... I got one from the school's shop, and it almost
: fits, but it doesn't..

You will have to file it to shape. Making good picks is not easy, but it is
better than not having any at all.

The commercially manufactured picks work better if you use some sandpaper
to remove the rough edges from the stampings.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: strollo@ssd.kodak.com (Larry Strollo)
Subject: Re: loompanics catalog delays
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:40:51 GMT




I sent in a request for a catalog, and about 2 weeks later got my request back
with a request from them for payment for the catalog (a few bucks I think).
I sent them the check, and then a couple weeks later got the catalog.

BTW, I was disappointed when I actaully got the catolog.  It contained much 
more paranoia / survivalist / get rich quick / amaze your friends stuff than 
I expected.  The locksmiting makes up an extremely small percentage of the 
catalog.  Some of the more bizarre stuff is actually quite scary when you 
think about the fact that A) someone took the time to write a book about it, 
and B) someone must be buying it.

LMS

-- 
===============================================================================
Larry Strollo                                             strollo@ssd.kodak.com
Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY 14653-9005                       (716) 253-9822
===============================================================================
Xref: sparky alt.locksmithing:1973 rec.audio.car:4779
From: dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: interest in car alarm group?
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:00:57 GMT
Organization: sdsu

In article <1992Nov12.085402.4517@csusac.csus.edu>, chenh@neptune.ecs.csus.edu (H. Philip Chen) writes:

 
> p00140@psilink.com (Gary A. Woodward) writes:
> >Any interest in a car alarm/security system discussion group.

> 
> I'm not interested.  There are more than enough newsgroups to 
> handle the car alarm/security threads, eg. in rec.audio.car, 
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> rec.autos, rec.autos.tech, and even in sci.electronics. 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Isn't this exactly why we need a separate group for car alarm/security?
Why should someone interested in this topic have to sift through five or
six newsgroups? For instance, I missed a thread on the Club, because I
wasn't (at that time) aware of the group alt.locksmithing.

> 
> Having a rec.(car-alarm) will probably attract a whole bunch 
> of flames from people who just hate those things.  

Who cares? If they hate them, they don't have to read the newsgroup. I hate
having my car stolen!  ):^(
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,alt.radio.scanner
From: linnig@m2000.dseg.ti.com (Mike Linnig)
Subject: Re: FREQUENCIES OF KEEPSAFER (SCHLAGE) SECURITY SYSTEMS  ?
Organization: Texas Instruments, Defense, Systems and Electronics Group.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:46:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.014132.28995@u.washington.edu> birnbaum@math.washington.edu (Z.W. Birnbaum) writes:

>   Does anybody know the frequency of the transmitters for the window sensors
>   of the SCHLAGE alarm systems marketed under the name of KEEPSAFER and
>   KEEPSAFER PLUS.

I remember finding a number stamped inside of my keepsafe transmitter and
tuning to that number.   I could hear the pzzzzt when it was triggered.

I believe it was about 303 Megahertz.


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Xref: sparky alt.locksmithing:1954 rec.audio.car:4712
From: p00140@psilink.com (Gary A. Woodward)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,rec.audio.car
Subject: interest in car alarm group?
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:56:41 GMT
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

Any interest in a car alarm/security system discussion group.
I have many years of experience in selling, designing, and training 
people to install mobile security.  I also know some of the authoritys 
on the manufacturing level.  I keep up with new developements in the 
business.   I have no economic gains.  How about it? any interest?

Gary
Xref: sparky alt.locksmithing:1971 rec.audio.car:4778
From: hkk38381@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Arthur Kwok)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: interest in car alarm group?
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:36:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxMpoF.2qp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

>p00140@psilink.com (Gary A. Woodward) writes:

>> Any interest in a car alarm/security system discussion group.
>> I have many years of experience in selling, designing, and training 
>> people to install mobile security.  I also know some of the authoritys 
>> on the manufacturing level.  I keep up with new developements in the 
>> business.   I have no economic gains.  How about it? any interest?
>> 
>I would be interested in this...


This will be great!!!!!

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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing,rec.audio.car
From: dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster)
Subject: Re: interest in car alarm group?
Organization: sdsu
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:20:21 GMT

In article <2930500342.0.p00140@psilink.com>, p00140@psilink.com 
(Gary A. Woodward) writes:
> 
> Any interest in a car alarm/security system discussion group.
> I have many years of experience in selling, designing, and training 
> people to install mobile security.  I also know some of the authoritys 
> on the manufacturing level.  I keep up with new developements in the 
> business.   I have no economic gains.  How about it? any interest?
> 
> Gary
> 

I too would be very interested. I own a VW Jetta ... enough said.


Gary, did you cross-post this to rec.autos and rec.autos.vw?


Cheers,
mark dunster
From: eylerken@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Eyler)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: lock picks
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:54:51 GMT
Reply-To: eylerken@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


      Anyone know of a place where I can order a set of lock picks
that are of decent quality but have a good price?

  
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: psionic@wam.umd.edu (Sixth Plane of Hell)
Subject: Re: Jammed locks after picking
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:53:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.201221.18908@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>psionic@wam.umd.edu (Sixth Plane of Hell) writes:
>: 
>: What is probably happening is that you are knocking out the master pins during
>: your picking. This happens a lot in locks found at school because they are often
>: great grand mastered keys which means that the pins in the lock are not solid like a typical lock, but rather in several pieces in order to accomodate many 
>: different keys. However when you master key a lock like this you must use
>: many small pins that are easily dislodged when you pick them. This doesn't
>: happen when you use a key because the key actually holds them in place.   
>: Unfortunately the picks do not..
>
>This problem would only occur with a poorly designed master key system - no
>matter how many levels of mastering are used. Also, there should be no way
>that the pins should be "dislodged" anywhere. Where can they go? 
>
>It is possible that there are some thin pins in the lock. If the person
>is raking the pins, they might jump and tip on edge. Depending on which
>pin did so, it could cause either the master or change key (or both) to
>not work any more.
>
>Bill

The problem here is that I've had this happen not only to myself but to some co-workers on several occasions. This usually happened on great graand master systems where the person who keyed the locks decided it would be a great idea to use
very thin pins/driver combinations. Many times the pins would be jammed between
the shear line or actually knocked out of the lock. I know this sounds really 
absurd but with the thickness of some of the pins they can be knocked into the keyway and jamm up the locks..

psionic@wam.umd.edu