From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: UTNE READER
Summary: Cartoons in UTNE READER
Keywords: UTNE, men, women,
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:31:53 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan6.140019.13562@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
> One thing I forgot to mention last time is that just about *everyone*,
> including the guy from Texas and a few cartoons not related to the articles,
> bashed 'Iron John'.  I was rather surprised and a little dismayed by this.
> I associate this sort of bashing mostly with knee-jerk extremism.
> To give an illustration, one cartoon had 'Backlash' on one side and 'Iron
> John' on the other.
> 
> The bashing seemed to be mostly symbolic, as nobody actually had any quotes
> from the book itself that they bashed, or even from the author.


In this response to my summary of UTNE READER articles, the cartoons
were mentioned.  I thought to include a description of them, but
didn't.  So here they are - keyed to the articles in which they
appear.


marc colten



Main article:

Man speaking from inside a closet to a very angry woman:

	"You got angry, so I went into the closet to carefully
	consider your point of view.  I hardly think that
	constitutes '_withdrawing_'"


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Haggard looking woman to man reading newspaper:

	"I've got really bad menstrual cramps"

Man to shocked looking woman:

	"I know just how you feel"



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Camille Paglia's article:

Man and women in a restaurant.  Cheerful looking woman to the man:

	"The feminist in me wants to buy dinner, but the woman
	in me wants you to pay for it.

Leering man to shocked looking woman:

	Well, the feminist in _me_ also wants you to buy dinner,
	but the man in me wants me to pay and then have you
	pay me back by sleeping with me."


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The blue balls bluff (sidebar):

Woman pointing a gun at a terrified man's groin:

	"Well, it seems your gargantuan gonads have turned
	into terrified testicles..."


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The Blame Game

Title:  Victim of the Sixties. 

Panel 1: A man is watching a woman in a bookstore:

	"Now, there's an attractive, interesting woman.  I should
	walk over there an start a conversation."

Panel 2: He looks worried:

	"I can't do _that_!  I go over there and right away
	she's gonna think I'm some kind of sleazy sexist pig
	who wants to go to bed with her or something..."

Panel 3: He's sweating badly:

	"BUT I _DO_ WANT TO GO TO BED WITH HER!!"

Panel 4: He walk away:

	"She's right!  I _am_ a sleazy sexist pig."


_________

Man to another man in a bar:

	"The only therapy I need is a woman who doesn't think
	I need therapy."


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Article: Ending the battle between the sexes:

Title art:  men and woman squaring off. Some in each group look
            angry, some look friendly or sheepish.

The angry lead woman holds up "BACKLASH", while the angry lead
man holds up "IRON JOHN".

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Woman with cat and piles of boxes to man holding a flower:

	"This is my cat, wuss-wuss, and this is my emotional
	baggage."

The man thinks:

	"My brain says 'run' but the heart says 'browse'.

and he says:

	"Flower?"

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Overhead shot.  A woman is in front of a close that must be
20 feet long, while across the room a guy is in front of a
closet about 2 feet long:

	Woman:  "Brad, my closet's full. Can I put a few
	        things in yours?"

	Man:    "Sure, honey.  I'll just move both of my
	        shirts over to one side."

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Four panels in the dark, no way to tell which character is the
man and which is the woman (or even if they are a man and a 
woman), so I'll refer to them as A and B:

Panel 1:

     A: "I just hope we can make the house payment!  Then
     we've got to fix the car!  When am I going to finish
     that report?  I just know they're gonna fire me, then
     what'll we do??  I wonder if Billy is taking drugs.  The
     kid's been acting so weird lately.  I'm sure I've really
     screwed him up!  God!  I feel fat, I've got to lose some weight..."

     B:  "ZZZ"

Panel 2:

     A:  "Honey, wake up!  It's 3 A.M."

     B:  "Hmm?"

Panel 3:

     A:  "Would you mind taking over?"

     B:  "Oh sure, it's my turn anyway."

Panel 4:

     A:  "ZZZ"


     B:  "How in the world can we afford Billy's school?  And
         how will we ever make the house payment?  Boy!
         Have I been messing up at work!  I hope I don't
         lose my job.  Ouch!  What was that?  Oh great, I'm
         having a heart attack!  Wow, we've got to get better
         insurance.  What if something happened?  And then
         there's taxes..."

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His and Her Politics (sidebar):

Man (dressed as caveman?) to angry and puzzled woman:

	"Don't you understand how difficult it is for _me_
	to have the same job as you and make twice as much
	money?"

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