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From: stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: goats in Japan
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:50:39 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

>> I never been to Japan so far.  I'd love to do, but who will then care
>> for my five goats, my dog and my guinea pigs?
>
>Take them with you.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thanks Joe for the advice. I happen to know that there are no import
regulations for guinea pigs. But what does customs say about the import
of goats and dogs to Japan? Does anyone have informations?

This is a serious question.

Greetings, Kurt

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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: CJGALL@RULCRI.LEIDENUNIV.NL
Subject: Re: QUERY: DOS/V
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:34:00 GMT

I woulkd also like to know if there are printer drivers for NEC P6(+)
and HP Laserjet III printers.

I have received an advertisement from Word Perfect Japan, WP 5.1
should be available in Japan soon!
If you have a licence to use the western version, you are also entitled
to use the Japanese version also (at least I think you are).

Chris
RUL
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: ATTN: Job Seekers! JOB FAIRS by ADAPT & SHUSHOKU JOHO was Re: Boston Ca
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:49:13 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

<stuff deleted>

>>> _shushoku joho's Carreer Forum == 1(800) 999-0179

>>> Adapt Carreer Services == 1(800) 537-2186

The above companies publish magazines for Japanese speakers on
business and job hunting.  I've found both to be good.  Shushoku joho
is all Japanese and Adapt is divided half and half.

Both companies sponsor Job Fairs for Japanese speakers in the spring
and fall.  The spring ones are usually in San Fransisco or LA and the
Fall ones are in Boston.

Shushoku Joho's Job Fair is called the Career Forum and is organized
by a group called Disco.  It is my impression that is generally
smaller than Adapt's fair and doesn't have as many American companies.
The fair I went to this march in San Fransisco was small with only 30
companies in attendance.  Most places were looking for MBA's or
programmers.  There were no Import-export or finanical institutions
there.  I was assured that the Boston fair to be held in November will
have some 100 companies in attendance when I complained to them when
registering the other day.  The phone number for this company is above
if you want their magazine or to go to their Job Fair.  They will
reimburse for your plane fair up to $350 provided you get your ticket
through their travel service.  (can we say kickback boys and girls...)

Adapt seems to be the better ~deal~ for the money.  More companies are
in attendance with many more American companies looking for workers to
work in Japan.  They reimbursh up to $500 for expenses for the trip.
I haven't received my registration packet yet but they told me I
should receive it sometime mid-September when I got impatient and
called them.  As far as I know the Adapt fair for fall will also be in
Boston.  If you call the above number they can give you a subscription
to the magazine or info on the upcoming fair.  The number is forwarded
to Japan so if you don't feel comfortable talking on the phone,
well... they may not have an English speaker on duty.  It is also my
impression that they demand a higher degree of Japanese fluency than
the Shushoku Joho people.  

Both of the magazines are available free of charge so it can't hurt
you to get them as they're good reading on some occasions.  They are
especially useful for anyone looking for a job where Japanese fluency
is a necessity.

BTW, these fairs are open to anyone Japanese fluent or not.  However
reimbursement will only occur for those who are Japanese fluent.

(don't flame me on the fluent issue, huh guys?)
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Life Happens?
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: mathias@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gerald B. Mathias)
Subject: Re: kanji of the day #33
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:03:37 GMT

It would probably be a good idea to switch strokes 3 and 4.

Bart 
From: selee@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lee Say Eng)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:57:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: JIS punctuation codes
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan

Hi, Rick ,can you email me a copy of JIS punctuation code .    

Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?36
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:17:37 GMT

stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE writes:

>KANJI OF THE DAY # 36

>JIS      = 3559 (serial number)
            ^^^^---hex 4671
>   OnYomi: NAN
>  Kunyomi: muzuka(shii)  -  hard, difficult, impossible
            also: kata, gata, haba, niku(i)

>Compounds:

>NAMpa    -   wreckage (of ship)
>NANmon   -   difficult question
>ariGATA  -   Thank You (literally: impossible to exist)

And from EDICT:

hiNAN	taking refuge (vs), finding shelter
fuNAN	safety, security
tabeNIKUi	difficult to eat
hiNANkunren	disaster drill
souNANsha	victim, survivor, sufferer
souNANshingou	distress signal, SOS
NANten	fault, weakness
touNANboushi	burglar-proof (id)
NANmin	refugees

-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: SOFTWARE FOR LEARNING VOCABULARY?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:05:21 GMT

A friend of mine is looking for software to help 
her improve her Japanese vocabulary.  It could
be in romanji or kanji or hiragana.  And could
be for UNIX, DOS, or Mac machines.  Also, it 
would preferably begin with basic and progress
to an advanced level.

Please reply by email to schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu.
-- 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!! Mike Schneider schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu !!
!! University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign !!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI)
Subject: Re: kanji of the day #33
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:24:53 GMT

In article <9208250930.AA02034@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE writes:
 |		    ****************   <-- "old bird"

  Old bird? Yes, it is sure this radical is called 'Furutori', and
Furu(i) means old, tori is bird. But as far as I know Furutori never
means 'old bird'. According to Kojien:

Furutori: 1) A general term for birds whose tails are short.
          2) [Radical Name] To distinguish simple 'Tori' [$@D;(J], the
	    bird parts in kanji 'old' [$@gQ(J].

And the following is kanji notation for 'edict' by Jim Breen.
 |RInyuu    -   weaning
 |RIkon     -   divorce
 |RIkombyou -   somnambulism

$@N%F}(J, $@N%:'(J, $@N%:2IB(J (synonym for $@L4M7IB(J).

Hope this helps.
--
Hidekazu TOZAKI
Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
E-mail: tozaki@nak.math.keio.ac.jp
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: tvp@GIBDO.ENGR.WASHINGTON.EDU
Subject: Re: QUERY: DOS/V
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:52:48 GMT

In article <9208310634.AA28228@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>In sci.lang.japan you write:
>
>>In article <9208310352.AA22642@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>>>In sci.lang.japan you write:
>>>
>>>>Does anyone know if there are DOS/V programs that let one print out Japanese
>>>>text on 9 pin Epson compatible printers?
>>>
>>>>In a related vein, a more general question: I hear there are dozens of
>>>>freeware and shareware programs for DOS/V available on BBSs around Japan.
>>>>Are there Internet FTP sites that carry such programs?
>>>
>>>I'm also very interested in DOS/V and would be very grateful to know
>>>what you find out. Perhaps you could post a summary. A list of
                                                        ^^^^^^^^^
>>>FTP sites for DOS/V perhaps? :-)
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>DOS/V is a commercial software product of IBM and cannot be FTP'd.
>
>I'm sorry if we were misunderstood but I think we were both refering
>to FTP sites for shareware programs to run on DOS/V and so on. Not
>the actual DOS/V operating system itself.
>
>Any information greatly appreciated.

I was in fact following this thread and was only confused by the
ambiguous section underlined above. If my misinterpretation ruffled
anyone's feathers I apologize.

>--
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>"The Golden Rule:  He who has the gold makes the rules."
>
>David John Rasmussen	Electronic Eng/Computer Sci University of Melbourne
>
>davidjr@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU		davidjr@ecr.mu.oz.au
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From: "Michael Gasser" <gasser@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: what Jorden would rather we didn't know...
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:36:50 -0500

kanazawa@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Makoto Kanazawa) writes:

>In <1992Sep3.152053.4753@rkna50.riken.go.jp>
>mtachiba@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Masahiko Tachibana) writes:

>>    I suppose this is not simply from agaru but iru + agaru -> i-agaru
>>-> i-yagaru -> yagaru.  Because this verb makes me feel like something 
>>is in progress in front of me.  See example of rain.

>I don't think `yagaru' comes from `iru + agaru'.  The following are
>both possbile:

>   yomi-yagaru  (yomu + yagaru)  `read'

>   yonde i-yagaru  (yonde iru + yagaru)  `be reading'
>     (or yonde yagaru)

>I don't know if `yagaru' has anything to do with `agaru'.

>Makoto Kanazawa

Samuel Martin (_A reference grammar of Japanese_, p. 454), says that,
according to Kanehiko Yoshida (_Gendai-go jodo^-shi no shi-teki
kenkyu^_, 1971, Meiji-shoin), -yagaru is from -i-agaru, presumably iru
+ agaru.

For whatever that's worth.

-- 
=========================================================================
Michael Gasser				Assistant Professor
Indiana University			Computer Science, Linguistics,
Computer Science Dept., LH215		Cognitive Science
Bloomington, IN 47405 USA
Xref: sparky sci.lang.japan:3930 soc.culture.japan:7527
From: kaneko@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: posting to fj groups
Followup-To: sci.lang.japan
Date: 1 Sep 1992 04:18:44 GMT
Organization: international computer science institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: axiom.icsi.berkeley.edu
Keywords: fj newsgroup kanji code x-0208 MIME

In article <1992Aug31.193214.900@neopath.wa.com> mike@neopath.wa.com writes:
>I want to post an article or two to some of the fj newsgroups, and would
>like some advice from others who may know what they're doing. My main
>question is what code should I use for japanese text?

Correct code is JIS, as you guessed. More precisely, a subset of
JIS X-0208(1983). Don't post using EUC, for 8 bit transparancy is
not guaranteed, and after 8th bits stripped out, the original text 
can't reproduce with the most powerful kanji-filter like jconv.
-- 
Seiji Kaneko  kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU,kaneko@sdl.hitachi.co.jp
Vote yes to fj.life.in-japan (^_^) .. 76270.2466@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: sdwyer@AGSM.UCLA.EDU (Steve Dwyer)
Subject: Re: Proficiency Tests
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:46:44 GMT

>
> I know that Eleanor Jorden, the Queen of Japanese Linguistics, has
> written a Japanese Profiency test for use through Educational Testing

> It's done completely with the tape recorder, with multiple choice

> Jorden system.  Very biased !

Sounds like her students couldn't pass the REAL proficiency tests, so
she had to make and sell her own test.  (Sorry, Jorden fans, but I just
could not resist.)

The serious question is whether proficiency requires the use of kanji.
As I understand it, proficiency should include at least a limited degree
of literacy.  On the other hand, verbal skill should be included in any
proficiency test.

I would like to know if any of Jorden's students has ever tried to live
in Japan.

Steve Dwyer
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: New versions of EDICT and KANJIDIC released.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:30:23 GMT


Just installed in the /pub/nihongo [ <--- note the LOWER case] directory of
monu6.cc.monash.edu.au is:

V92-026 of edict (PD Japanese/English Dictionary file). V26 has 26,730 lines (up
from 25,300 in V25). It is in plain text (edict), compressed (edict.Z) and indexed
for JDIC/JREADER usage (edict.zoo).

An update of KANJIDIC. I have added several hundred missing Nelson numbers,
yomikata and meanings, mostly to rather obscure JIS2 kanji. For the 
statistically-minded, of the 6353 kanji in kanjidic, 4776 now have their Nelson 
numbers and supporting information. Of the other 1577 (mostly JIS2), about
170 are cross-referenced to more common versions of the same character.
Kanjidic is there in text and compressed versions. Also the comressed and indexed
form of this data is in kinfo.zoo for JDIC/JREADER users.

Ken Lunde's new utilities: jconv.c, jcode.c and jchar.c. These replace his famous
"jis.c" and "jvalues.c".

I am going to take a break for a while from working on EDICT and KANJIDIC. Please
keep sending updates, but I will not be putting in my own several hundred per week.


-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: Lim_Lily.xssc@RXSGP.XEROX.COM
Subject: To study Both Japanese and Chinese?
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:26:00 GMT

In article <9208241504.AA18743@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:>  Now I have
another question. Is it easy to learn BOTH japanese and
>chinese at the same time ? I was thinking that knowing almost 2,000
>characters would make chinese pretty easy, right ?

From my personal experience, I do find that knowing Chinese makes learning
Japanese easier. Many a time, we can guess the meaning of Kanji easily but of
course the  Kanji pronounciation  differs alot from the Chinese pronounciation.

Every Chinese syllable can be pronounced 4 different ways depending on the
intonation so it may be a bit difficult to learn the pronouncaition even though
you may have the romanized syllables. So most of the time native Englishn
speakers may find difficulty in gettting the correct pronounciation.
Furthermore certain Chinese character when paired with another character is
supposed to be pronounced differently.

Another great difference lies in the grammar of the 2 languages. In Chinese
there is no need to change the root of a verb when you want to talk about
something in the past, Basically you just need to add a word that shows the
past eg. last night, yesterday, etc. So talking about the complexity of
grammar, Chinese is much simpler. The complexity of Japanese grammar can be
rather confusing at times.

Lily
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: melby@DOVE.YK.FUJITSU.CO.JP ("John B. Melby")
Subject: Re: Chinese & Japanese
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:47:55 GMT

>  I have run in to several people that have studied Chinese first and
>then moved to Japanese without a lot of trouble, but not the other way
>around.

I might as well mention here that studying Chinese after becoming fluent
in Japanese can also be very advantageous.  When I took Chinese in college,
the class had a good number of people who could speak (but not read or
write) Cantonese, and some of them were having difficulty learning the
characters.

Of course, a person who had only learned Romanized Japanese before starting
Chinese would be in much the same predicament as the other people in the
class....

-----
John B. Melby
Fujitsu Limited, Yokohama
melby%yk.fujitsu.co.jp@fai.com
From: Dave_Spence.Ebina_PBU@FUJIXEROX.XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Monotarinai
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:14:48 GMT
Reply-To: Dave_Spence.Ebina_PBU@fujixerox.xerox.com
Organization: The Internet

Pam,

Mono:  Comes From: Butsu, Motsu, mono = thing
tarinai: Comes From: Soku, ashi = foot; ta(riru) = be sufficient hence;
ta(rinai) = insufficient
Monotarinai means: (When a THING is the subject) Be unsatisfactory, leave
something to be desired and (When a PERSON is the subject) Be dissatisfied,
Feel as if something were missing.

I do not know of a 'literal' translation that would make any sense. I have no
idea how the Japanese got 'tariru' out of 'ashi'. A 'possibility' might be that
'MANZOKU' carries the meaning of 'Satisfaction, fullness, completeness'. Not
having sufficient 'ashi', or feet, might show a lacking, dissatisfaction. So,
if something (mono) lacks 'feet', it is unsatisfactory.  No?

The problem with something like this is that 'monotarinai', though it has all
of the appearances of being an idiom, is not a REAL idiom, though it is
sometimes treated as if it was one.

Hope that helps.

As far as a newsgroup for 'taiko' players, it 'beats' the heck out of me, if
you'll pardon the pun.

Dave Spence
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: kanji of the day #33
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:03:37 GMT

tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) writes:


>And the following is kanji notation for 'edict' by Jim Breen.
> |RIkombyou -   somnambulism

> $@N%:2IB(J (synonym for $@L4M7IB(J).

>Hope this helps.

It did indeed. 2 new entries. I can now sleep(walk) easy.

$@L4M7IB(J [$@$j$3$s$S$g$&(J] /somnambulism/
$@N%:2IB(J [$@$j$3$s$S$g$&(J] /somnambulism/

$@$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$7$?!#(J


-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: 100032.1076@COMPUSERVE.COM (MACKENZIE INFO SERVICE)
Subject: HELLO FROM NEW ZEALAND
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:33:01 GMT

2 SEPTEMBER
TO: ALL
Hello from New Zealand,

My wife and I live at Warkworth (pop. 2000, rural town) one hour north of
Auckland City (N.Z.'S largest city). We have five children, Joy 12, David
9, Grace 7, Melody 4, and Christina 1.5 years. We are slowly learning
Japanese.

We live on a farm and from time to time we have guests from overseas come
and enjoy our rural lifestyle. It is a very good opportunity to exchange
ideas, and get to know people who speak Japanese and want help to improve
their English.

Heather and I and our three oldest children are learning Japanese.

For us learning Japanese is hard work and slow, as there are no Japanese
in our town, that we can have conversation practice with. If any one has
any ideas on teaching Japanese to our children, we welcome any messages.

I must close now and we look forward to hearing from anyone who has an
interest in learning Japanese or English, and learning about New Zealand.
Please reply directly to our e mail address.
Best wishes from


Roger & Heather MacKenzie
P. O. Box 46
Warkworth
New Zealand
Fax : +64-9-425-8517
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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?36
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Date:  4 Sep 92 11:07:59

In article <jwb.715562257@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:
>stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE writes:

>>KANJI OF THE DAY # 36

>>JIS      = 3559 (serial number)
>            ^^^^---hex 4671

Perhaps a dumb question, but how is 4671 the hex equivalent of 3559 decimal?

>>   OnYomi: NAN
>>  Kunyomi: muzuka(shii)  -  hard, difficult, impossible
>            also: kata, gata, haba, niku(i)

>>Compounds:

>And from EDICT:

>hiNAN	taking refuge (vs), finding shelter

Also

hiNAN  blame, censure, criticism    (different kanji for 'hi')

Also, the jodoushi "-nikui" is written in hiragana, according to the current
Mombusho standards (whatever that's worth...).
-- 
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|  David Luke                      "There's nothing worse than a brilliant     |
|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |
From: dr@ITE.OTA.GOV
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Proficiency Tests
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

When I was in Japan, I took the Nihongo Noryoku Shiken (Japanese Ability
Test), which I believe was sponsored by the Ministry of Education. There
were, if I remember correctly, three levels, number three being the lowest
and number one being required for foreigners who wanted to take a regular
course of study at a Japanese university (and therefore considered extremely
difficult for most foreigners except Chinese or Korean speakers, because of
the kanji expertise required). I took level two, which was just a good stuff
advanced-intermediate level. I believe this test is administered at some
American universities; if no one at your university knows about it, another
place to look would be the magazine Nihongo Journal, available at Kinokuniya
bookstore (NY or SF, in this country). I remember they had frequent articles
on how to prepare for it. At the Kinokuniyas in Japan you could also buy
official practice booklets for the test, but they were in the regular
education section, not the foreign book floor. You might also ask a Japanese
consulate; here in Washington there is a Japan-US Culture Center
affiliated with the embassy, tel (202)429-2206. I have a copy of the practice
booklet at home somewhere; let me know if you''d like me to check it for
further info.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: davidjr@MUNDIL.CS.MU.OZ.AU (David John RASMUSSEN)
Subject: Re: QUERY: DOS/V
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:31:33 GMT

In sci.lang.japan you write:

>In article <9208310352.AA22642@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>>In sci.lang.japan you write:
>>
>>>Does anyone know if there are DOS/V programs that let one print out Japanese
>>>text on 9 pin Epson compatible printers?
>>
>>>In a related vein, a more general question: I hear there are dozens of
>>>freeware and shareware programs for DOS/V available on BBSs around Japan.
>>>Are there Internet FTP sites that carry such programs?
>>
>>I'm also very interested in DOS/V and would be very grateful to know
>>what you find out. Perhaps you could post a summary. A list of
>>FTP sites for DOS/V perhaps? :-)

>DOS/V is a commercial software product of IBM and cannot be FTP'd.

I'm sorry if we were misunderstood but I think we were both refering
to FTP sites for shareware programs to run on DOS/V and so on. Not
the actual DOS/V operating system itself.

Any information greatly appreciated.

--
_____________________________________________________________________________
"The Golden Rule:  He who has the gold makes the rules."

David John Rasmussen	Electronic Eng/Computer Sci University of Melbourne

davidjr@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU		davidjr@ecr.mu.oz.au
compuserve   100026,2314
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