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From:         LNCJB%WOMBAT.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Sport/Leisure Question
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>(This is really a test message for you, Carolyn.  Hope the system fubar at
>your end has cleared up by now.)
>
>-rashmi

Thanks Rashmi, I had just logged on again to see if I could piggy-back my
messages through my cc account, but realised that I would probably have to
wait a few more hours to see if it would work.... and then your message came
through, so I can check it out properly now. I've subbed through cc and set
forward on all mail. So far cc seems to be receiving everything... I can't
work out why wombat isn't though. I even tried sending an unsub from wombat
to the listserv but have received no response two and a half hours later....
I've resubbed now so that I can compare the traffic on the two nodes overnight.
While a double dose of words-l would probably cause heart-failure in the
faint-hearted, I'm sure I can handle it. :-)

Carolyn
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Brad's Geography Question
              24 Jan 1993 13:53:22 +1100 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:53:22 +1100 <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU> said:
>"Who lives at 24 Sussex Drive, Ottawa?"

The Canadian Prime Minister?

brad
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:36:25 GMT
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In a previous article, CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (CHRIS SCHMIDT) says:

>>John "Why did the bhagwan cross the path?" W.
>
>Can't you just let bhagwans be bhagwans?
>
Bhecause it hasn't ghotten to the other side yhet.

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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's Sport/Leisure Question
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:>OK, Smart Aleck - who was the poster from SIVM.BITNET the other day, hmmm???
:>
:>G

:I haven't been reading everything carefully lately. And I read cutesy talk
:involving Graham Toal very cursorily.

Like hell.  OK, go back and re-read it, then tell me who you think
it is, Smart Aleck.

G
(PS you can find all the relevant article by looking for the
first occurrance of 'Graham' in the subject field)
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:47:46 EST
From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      a couple of points
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first: The generally accepted academic catchword for the subcontinent now
is "South Asia". Tushar seems to have accepted the anglicized upper-class
belief/hope that "We are not Asians, that's all those dirty buggers over there.
We, on the other hand, play cricket." I've noticed the same problem with people
from Pittsburgh denying they're from the Midwest. And I don't even want to
start in on the Russians, who always insist they are European, but never call
it Western Europe, just Europe.

second: my Smithsonian account is "wwcem121 at SIVM". You may compare it with
the post in question. While it is *very* good for telnetting out of, it is
horrible as far as lists and mail go, and the disk space makes certain gifs
look like Long Dong Silver.

b.c.
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:33:26 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: a couple of points
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From: blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

> We, on the other hand, play cricket." I've noticed the same problem
> with people from Pittsburgh denying they're from the Midwest. And I

Being from the mid-west (originally), and having spent time in Pitt
teaching, I find no sense in the above remark.

Peter
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Brad's Geography Question
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>>"Who lives at 24 Sussex Drive, Ottawa?"
>
>The Canadian Prime Minister?
>
>brad

Yep!

Carolyn
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      RE: The Rankings
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On Thu, 28 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Although I ranked Edinburg fairly low on my original vote, the more I think
> about it, the more I realize that it might be a pretty good site -- with
> telnet access, of course.  Edinburg... where the swimming is eaassyyy...

If Stealth is on line by then as I expect it shall be, no problem.

-abh
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 18:02:49 by VM Network Mailer (108969)
>If the Equator is the dividing line between N and S Atlantic, then I have
>very serious questions about Karen's sense of hot and cold.  I hate cold
>water, yet I've spent many happy hours swimming in the N. Atlantic.

It isn't *my* sense of hot and cold (though I never do enjoy the Atlantic
Ocean, I'll admit) but what I heard about survival times in the water. I
heard this on NPR a while back.  My vague memory is that in the winter,
you could last only a few minutes, while in the summer it was a couple of
hours.  This supports my memories of the Atlantic Ocean.:)

Karen
who should think more before she posts
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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>Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 14:35:15 by Natalie Maynor
>
>>Where is the dividing line between Northern and Southern Atlantic?
>
>The Gulf Stream ?
>
>Tony H.

There were a number of messages that I would have liked to reply to but had to
delete to recover enough disk space to get the system operating again....
Natalie's post was one of those. What I was going to ask was if those
swimmers in the North Atlantic who didn't freeze were actually swimming in
the Gulf Stream?

Carolyn
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: a couple of points
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              93 1:48 am

> :second: my Smithsonian account is "wwcem121 at SIVM". You may compare it with
> :the post in question. While it is *very* good for telnetting out of, it is
> :horrible as far as lists and mail go, and the disk space makes certain gifs
> :look like Long Dong Silver.
> :b.c.
>
> That's OK, I believe you.  I didn't buy in to tushar's theory anyway.
> Still, you're in a good position to do a little snooping for us, no?

Erm, Joan wondered if it was blomberg, tushar said that was "impossible",
I said it was unlikely, but possible.

Just wanted to clear that up.

-rashmi
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Salmonbake bitching
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> :you to be Frank.  That would put a big crimp in my lust since I have no
> :inclinations toward same-sex lusting.
> Or same-species even...

Same-species lusting is fine.  It does not preclude cross-species lusting.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:57:31 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 4
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On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:

> Sorry abh, but the S stands for sport not science which you already have..
> What else would you like?

Erm, right now I could stand a pizza...

-abh
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In a previous article, samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>Ruth, it's good that you edit your headers to put words-l in your reply-to
>field, but don't overdo it.
>
I shall attempt not to, but alas, the replacing of ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
with words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu has become a force of habit, trained into
fingers sometimes put on autopilot.:-( <*sigh*>  

Don't worry, the reply went private mail - much safer that way.


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> >Words-l is expensive when you're paying by the hour...
> >
> >Rita Rouvalis
> >rita@world.std.com
>
>
> Tell me about it :-)
>
> --bayla

"We got a room faw t'ree hours, or yez can have it faw the night.
Fifty bucks either way, what's yer pleasure, Jack?" :-)

Ken
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> It isn't *my* sense of hot and cold (though I never do enjoy the Atlantic
> Ocean, I'll admit) but what I heard about survival times in the water. I
> heard this on NPR a while back.  My vague memory is that in the winter,
> you could last only a few minutes, while in the summer it was a couple of
> hours.  This supports my memories of the Atlantic Ocean.:)

Hmmmm.  I'll try to remember that before jumping in for a swim around
Sierra Leone or Trinidad.  And Jamaica would no doubt be frightfully
cold.  But I guess it would be ok in the South Atlantic, so the South
Shetland Islands would be ok...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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I'm about to add up the rankings received today and need some clarification.
Am I correct in assuming that NC = No?

> > _NC_ Boone, NC
> > _NC_ Elsewhere in NC
> > _No_ Edinburg, TX
> > _No_ Galway, Ireland
> > _No_ Elsewhere in Ireland
> > _NC_ Portland
> > _No_ Starkville, MS
> > _1__ Toronto
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Subject:      Re: stamps
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Posted on 20 Jan 1993 at 14:37:03 by blomberg cepeda

>There was an item on NPR this morning that the USPS is wising up to all the
>Elvis fanatics out there who have been licking the King's backside and
>sticking it to envelopes with non-existent addresses. It comes back stamped,
>of course--

                      DECEASED

Tony H.
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>I'm sure you'd look far more handsome in your natural coat than in ash
>gray or some such color.  If Natalie's talking you into getting a shirt,
>convince her that it's not necessary.  I'm sure you can do it.

Dogs will obviously look completely ridiculous in T-shirts or whatever.
But if Natalie is talked out of it, what will happen to the cheerful
banter about getting out of shirts, and great Danes, and so on?

tushar
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Subject: Re: signoff
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> >What's happened to that good old Worlds-L Spirit?  Rah Rah.
> --ggs
>         Up yer ass, Smith.
> JMW
> [feel better now?]

Actually, I feel like I've been <had>....
--ggs (not to mention misunderstood....)
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: "Chief" is no longer PC

Jeez, what is this - some kinda nation-wide conspiracy or something?
Here, we have a city councilman getting his knickers in a knot over renaming
the Squaw Peak Parkway*, and some other anonymous idiot wants the carvings
removed from our new airport terminal as he says they promote the Klan!
(carving pattern - repetitive |<+>|<+>|<+>|<+>|<+>|<+>|     )  Boy, if he ever
gets downtown and sees the [native american] swastikas in some of the buildings
down there he'll infarct!

John "bar-wacka-plus-wacka, bar-wacka-plus-wacka!" W.

*Last time anything got renamed in this state was when the mountain range
north of Yuma was changed to the Kofas, after the "King of Arizona" mine...I
still think that the "Shithouse Mountains" has a nice ring to it!
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>HA!  It was very shrewd of you to post just that one message, leavin
>behind hardly any clues.  Yeeaah!  Joan and I now have a 100% track
>record.
>
>As a words-l icon once said, "women *know* these things".

Bloody stupid goddamned fluke, hell.

tushar
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Maya's poem
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        >>   I've got it!  From the soundtrack of -Doctor Dolittle-!
        >Still going...
        What is it?
        tushar

Yes, you've gone way over the usual time limit for this sort of stuff.
There's nothing clever or impressive in knowing something obscure that
you just happen to have to hand.  Time to tell us or forget about it...

G
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Subject:      Ah, the pleasures of Coffee!

> THE NEW DRINK, COFFEE, FIRST OFFERED IN ENGLAND BY PASQUA ROSEE
> 1652
............
> exceedingly, and is therefore good against the headache... It is
> excellent to prevent and cure the dropsy, gout, and scurvy. It is
> known by experience to be better than any other drying drink for
> people in years, or children... It will prevent drowsiness, and
> make one fit for business, if one have occasion to watch, and
> therefore you are not to drink of it after supper, unless you
> intend to be watchful, for it will hinder sleep.

Taken in great quantities, as a restorative against which even the
lingering embraces of Sleep cannot prevail, Coffee turns the imbiber
into a talkative and wired being incapable of silences, and moreover
allowing him to imitate the action of the fly who climbs the wall at
great speed and in disregard for his own safety.  Said imbiber of
Coffee may discover to his chagrin that he pisses his sorry brains
from out his body; and his associates in the practice of his daily
commerce may seek him, if not to be found at his lodgings or his
accustomed desk, in the jaques, where he spends great amounts of
precious time relieving himself.  The true devotee of this potation
called Coffee may be discerned by his accustomed saying when asked
about his level of indulgence: "If there be no cup or suitable chalice
available, I will open a vein in my arm, and you may pour the drink
therein."

Ken
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        Seriously, though, I agree (for once) with the pi-ugh about this.
        East coast is *much* better.  I wouldn't even mind another trip to
        Bristol.  The other one went so fast.

As long as its near one of the airports that do cheap int'l flights,
like NY, Boston, or... er... that's it.

G
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Subject:      Re: Buddism (was Re: Asians)
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1993, Anne Haycock wrote:

> if the thunder don't getcha, then the lightening will!"--jerry garcia
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^

What does that burned out old hippy know about giving birth?

-abh
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Evelyn's Geography Question
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>I KNEW I shouldn't have taken Geography question.  I know Bikini Atoll is
>the one that the U.S. used for tests and Funafuti is one of the few atolls
>in the French sphere of influence in the Pacific.  The only other atoll that
>comes to mind is Rongarik (sp?).  I'll say Funafuti.
>
>Evelyn

Muraroa Atoll was the one you wanted.

Carolyn
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Subject:      Re: Torture, again.

> The ultimately chilling conclusion is that torturer's MUST have normal
> personalities--"Any of us, in a similar situation, might be capable of
> the same cruelty.  One probably cannot train a deranged sadist to be an
> effective torturer or killer.  He must be in complete control of himself
> on the job."
>
> The evidence for this is quite convincing, but I still want to deny it.
> I guess that's just my American Optimism.

I have only anecdotal non-evidence picked up from reading about the
Holocaust.  What I remember suggested that the concentration camp SS
guards and the men who operated the gas chambers didn't seem to fit
any single conception of what makes a human being do things like that.
Surely, some of these men (and women?) were scum before they ever put
on a uniform.  Others, like the doctors, were trained as healers, not
as people whose main job was to determine who could work as a slave
and who would go to the gas.  Still others--I would guess the
majority--were perfectly ordinary people who were trained, schooled,
or whatever into regarding their victims as faceless and dehumanized.

The teaching and learning part is what is most horrifying.  HOW that
is done is beyond me.  How do you convince other people, and how do
you convince yourself, that a Jewish baby is a rag doll into which you
can stick a bayonet; or that the screams of 2000 people at a time
being put to death by a slow-working commercial insecticide are not
the silent cries of insects?  I don't know: if you want to call that
part of the Banality of Evil, fine.  I prefer to think of it as one of
the ultimate Mysteries of Evil.  It was played out in Mexico, the
American West, Armenia, and the Soviet Union before the Nazis
technologized it.  It was played out in Greece, Argentina, and Chile
in the 1960s and 1970s.  It is being played out now in Bosnia.  And
the question repeats itself: "How in God's name do these people LIVE
with themselves?"

Maybe not all do.  There are stories that some of the extermination
camp guards mutinied and refused to do their "jobs."  There are
stories of men like the SS officer Kurt Gerstein who went to the
Vatican to ask Pope Pius XII to intervene.  There are still others of
SS men who maneuvered to save at least some of their victims because
they could not deal with what they were doing.  There are others of
guards who became alcoholics, drug addicts, and suicides...maybe to
still the sounds of those screams and their consciences.

And there were others who enjoyed it.  I don't know the answer.

Ken
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>A vague voice from the deep recesses of my subconscious says it's a Tony
>Somebody - Lewis, perhaps?

Tony Gregg. I am banking on his retiring earlier. But now that I think
about it, I was in third grade in '77. Ah ... my guess is wrong.

>This is really weird - the name just popped into my head out of nowhere.

I can't believe this. You actually don't seem to know.

tushar
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Inauguration
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From: Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>

> >With so many people swooning over this marvellous poem, I wonder if
> >I should confidently predict it's going to turn out to be the usual
> >sicklingly cloying American mawkish sentimental trash?

Probably.

>
> read, as she is absolutely amazing when she performs her poetry.

She wasn't this time.

> Contemplating force-feeding Graham Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath until

For some reason, the name Graham Anne Sexton doesn't ring a bell.:)

Peter
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