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From: hsitz@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Herbert E Sitz)
Subject: Re: Paragraph numbers in page numbering - how?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:01:10 GMT

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.921103123403.847@tsrv1.ts.wm.edu> Michael Hollinger <MCHOLL@TSRV1.TS.WM.EDU> writes:
>> In the next issue I want to show in the header the
>> paragraph number of the first new paragraph on that page.
>> (Something like an auto cross reference).
>> Is there anyone who can help me with this problem ?

 
I have a suggestion about how to reference the first paragraph of
each page in the header, albeit perhaps an unsatisfactory one.  I
don't think WP has the facility to do it without a macro, but a
macro might provide a satisfactory solution.  The general structure
of the macro would be something like this.
 
1.   search for next page
2.   search for first paragraph on the page
3.   block and read into variable (or alternatively just do ctrl-
     F4, (b)lock, (c)opy).  Note that the text added by the auto
     paragraph numbering code won't be included, but I assume the
     heading/first line of the paragraph would be preferable
     anyway.  (Alternatively, or perhaps additionally, you could 
     put a reference code immediatly after the [par num] code, making 
     sure to give the reference a unique name.  Then you could "target" 
     that reference in the header.)
4.   <pageup><pagedown> (to get to top of current page)
5.   Put in a new header and read text heading into proper spot in
     header by including the variable (or by retrieving the block
     if you recorded the text heading that way).  (Or, once again,
     "target" the [par num] reference at the appropriate spot in
     your header.)
6.   go back to step 1 and loop through the hole document
 
Note that this will result in a somewhat messy document because
there will be a header on every page.  But that shouldn't be a
problem because you can use the macro-generated document merely for
printing.  Work in the original single-header document and just run
the macro each time before you print.  (Remembering of course to
always save your original single-header document, and not to bother
saving the macro-generated multi-header document.  Just print it
and then get rid of it.)  On a fast computer this macro wouldn't
take much time to run at all; the bonus of having a reference in
the header on each page seems well worth the trouble.  (I myself
use and highly recommend Grandview 2.0, a program dedicated to
outlining which has this header-reference feature built in.)
 
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From: mike@childsoc.demon.co.uk (Michael Bernardi)
Subject: Undocumented feature of Tables!
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I friday of last week a collegue and I both spend an hour or so trying to get
a table AND some column type text together on the same page.
Apparently even if you have a table only 2" wide you CANNOT place any text
next to it! We tried joining cell together and blanking lines, BUT this
didn't work either! In desparation we called WP support to be told the method
to use was to save the table, and import it into a text box!
You cannot use a table in columns either
                Mike
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From: ELDJIVES@MIZZOU1.BITNET (David Ives)
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Subject: Re: Phonetic character set?
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:52:00 GMT
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Look under the Compose command in the manual and you will find most, if
not all you need.  For example, CTRL-2 (or CTRL-V) followed by an 'o' and
then an ':' will give you an umlauted 'o'.  Good Luck!
_________________________________________________
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Microcomputer Systems Group
MU Libraries -- University of Missouri
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From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Subject: Re: Clip art/Paint Program
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:57:24 GMT

In article <keulen.722272027@possum> keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen) writes:
>22642SC@MSU writes:
>
>>I am looking for a good paint/draw program that comes with alot of clipart.
>>I would like to use the graphics with Wordperfect for Windows.  Presently, I
>>am looking at Corell Draw, and Draw Perfect.  If anyone has any suggestions as
>>to which is better or if anyone has a better idea I'd appreciate it. (Right
>>now I'm leaning tword Draw Perfect $85.00 vs Corell Draw $600)
>
>What?!  DrawPerfect for $85???  In Oz I think it's on the order of A$700! 
>There _is_ a new version of DrawPerfect due out in April(-ish) next year,
>called WordPerfect Presentation Manager.
>
>Mike

That is the educational discount price for additional copies of a
regiustered master copy. We pay even less than that if you take
exchange rates into account - $115 per "site" (additional copy) i.e.
university owned machine. But that does not include documentation or
even disks, just the license to run the copy. Still cheap and well
worth it.

-- 
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Computing Services Centre - Victoria University of Wellington - New Zealand
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From: bchs1b@Elroy.UH.EDU (Michael Benedik)
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Subject: Re: screen extenders
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <WPCORP-L%92111609403644@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>, "Rachel S. Moreland" <MORELAND@KSUVM.BITNET> writes:
>The Dec 1992 issue of WordPerfect Magazine has an add for
>ScreenExtender (tm) 2.0 for WordPerfect.  $99.95.  the 800 number
>is  800-782-4792.  This is published by Stairway Software Inc.  700 Harris
>Street,  Suite 204,  Charlottesville, VA  22901.
>   I've purchased this but have not loaded it as yet.
>Rachel Moreland  MORELAND@KSUVM

I have been using ScreenExtender for about a year now and I really like
it alot. I have it on all the time. The only drawbacks are (1) it slows
things down a little bit (especially scrolling) but on a reasonable machine
it isn't very bad at all. (2) Has some problems with TSR's. For example
I have a dictionary TSR loaded and the two programs conflict sometimes.
there is a hotkey to switch into non-graphics mode, then the TSR
will load and run fine, then you can hotkey back to graphics mode. the
problem is not that the program conflicts but rather that you are in
graphics mode and lots of TSR's are very unhappy when you are in graphics
mode. 

Otherwise, I highly recommend the product if the above concerns don't 
bother you.

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From:         Hans Joergen Marker <DDAHM@VM.UNI-C.DK>
Subject:      Re: File conversion from Word5.5

On then English only discussion:
Jeg mener at det forenkler tingene ikke alene for de engelsktalende, som
kun sjaeldent er gode til andre sprog end engelsk, men ogsaa for ikke engelsk
talende, hvis listen koeres paa engelsk alene. For en ikke engelsktalende
bliver sprogbarieren dobbelt. Ikke alene er man noedt til at kunne engelsk
for at kunne foelge hovedparten af diskussionen. Man skal ogsaa vaere i be-
siddelse af tredie, fjerde osv. fremmedsprog for at foelge de enkeltindslag
der maatte vaere paa andet end engelsk.

The above is Danish, and it probably demonstrates the difficulties that a
multilingual list will present. Danish is a Germanic language though.
Best Wishes,

Hans Joergen Marker
From: REITSMAC@DENISON.BITNET (Charlie Reitsma)
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Subject: Re: WP 5.1 DOS and Macro Using POPUP windows?
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:42:32 GMT
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>Does anyone know of a way to simulate a popup menu in WP 5.1 for DOS within a
>macro.  I know how to put a menu across the bottom of the screen by using the
>CHAR macro command and a CASE statement, but I would really like to use a POPUP
>menu.

Sure.  See Macros, Message Display in the WP5.1 DOS Reference manual,
(pages 386-394 in my copy)
From: kkb55224@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin Kelly Buxton)
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Subject: TeX to WP
Keywords: TeX conversion
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:00:51 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I have some files that were produced in LaTeX and am not sure how to
convert them into WP format (including equations, etc.)  If anyone
would have any information that might help me please email. Thanks
Kristin
kkb55224@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
kkb55224@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT mail accepted)
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From:         "Nalley, Gary K." <nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Clip art/Paint Program

> I am looking for a good paint/draw program that comes with alot of clipart.
> I would like to use the graphics with Wordperfect for Windows.  Presently, I
> am looking at Corell Draw, and Draw Perfect.  If anyone has any suggestions as
> to which is better or if anyone has a better idea I'd appreciate it. (Right
> now I'm leaning tword Draw Perfect $85.00 vs Corell Draw $600)


I would *seriously* look at MicroGrafx Draw for Windows.  In my book it
*completely* outclasses DrawPerfect and Corel Draw on ease of use and usability.
Plus it does *LOTS* of file conversions, comes with *TONS* of clipart, and costs
about the same as DrawPerfect and much less than Corel.  I use it in preparing
Aldus Presuasion presentations and WP documents all the time.

Gary

Disclaimer:  I known I sound like a salesman, but I am not.  I just like a good
product that does what its documentation says it does and does it on a
consistant basis without bombing...


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From:         Michael Hollinger <MCHOLL@TSRV1.TS.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Same macro's for different WP languages/versions

>
> To make macro's applicable for both languages, you cannot use "y" or "j" for
> yes and ja, respectively, when is prompting for an answer. Therefore WP has
> made possible using the options "+" for yes and "-" for no (the last one
> causes for the NL version no problem).
>
> However, our older US version does not support this, but uses the "1" option
> instead. So the same problem remains.
>
> My question: Does somebody have a solution for these different versions?????
> Hints: Is there a possibility to retrieve the WP version/language in a macro?
>        Is there a smart (short) test when "1" or "+" must be used?

Gee, if you wanted to be really sneaky, you could use <all> old
Yes/No interfaces simply by remapping the +/- keys on your number
keypad to give the standard US key responses. If I remember
correctly, the +/- keys on the letter portion of the keyboard should
still give their proper sequencwes, so you don't even lose those.
(This assumes, of course, that you have a 102 enhanced keyboard...)






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From: aerts@media02.UUCP (Ad Aerts)
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Subject: Newspaper Column Line Chopping - Ideas?
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:02:18 GMT
Organization: AA Software Support

In article <cvessey.136.722102327@UPEI.CA> cvessey@UPEI.CA writes:

  >         A)      Defeat this option in Columns

I don't now. Who does?

  >         B)      Force full justification of a line, regardless of [HRt]
  >                 placement

End the line that precedes a new column not by [Hrt] (or [Hpg], but
insert a series of [ ] (home-space) first.  Simply type home-space
until the string of spaces moves to the next line.  The previous line
will be fully justified.

  >         C)      Another way to limit the vertical size of a column.

Insert an empty frame, one, two or any other number of columns wide.  Any
frame will do. Anchor the frame to the page, and make sure its code appears
well before the columns you want the empty space to appear in.

Bonne chance!
Viel Glueck!

Adrian.
From: fb@first.gmd.de (Frank Buehler)
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Subject: HP Deskjet 500C + WP4.2
Summary: Which printer driver can be used? Update?
Keywords: WP4.2, HP DJ 500C
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:47:48 GMT
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Hi There (sorry should it be the wrong group),

Which printer driver should be used with wp4.2 and the HP deskjet 500c?
Is there an additional driver available?
best regards 
frank (fb@first.gmd.de)

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Subject:      help, a margin problem

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             Subject: help, a margin problem

------------ Letter Body Part 1 - Text  ------------

Hi, there.
I'm having a problem with margin settings.  The left margin of the file
has been set as 1.5".  While the text of the files goes well with the
margin setting, the table of contents will not comply with it.  Checking
the code reveals that there is a [Mar Rel] (margin release) code at the       be
ginning of each line.  This code comes with the generation of the table
of content.  The 1.5" left margin will not come into effect unless that
code is delete manually.
Any ideas?  Thanks in advance.

Xiaowa Wang
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From: v4194rvc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (RON C. HAMILTON)
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Subject: Landscape on Packard Bell.. (configed. as HP)
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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DOCUMENTATION is like gold, People always steal it......

Well anyway we are running a Packard Bell configured as a  HP and
we just can't seem to get it to print Landscape.  Is there a secret or
are we just WP5.1 illiterate?

We have changed the size of the paper but to no avail....??

Any help?

R. Hamilton
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From:         "(Gail Garfield Neuman)" <Garfield@EAGLE.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: WP Conference Schedule

Cletus-

I went to two spring conferences (1989 and 1990), both were great.  Out
of the 2.5 days, only one of the presentations wasn't that good the
first year I went.  The second year all the presentations were even
better.  I learned about some of the more advanced features that as a WP
support, training and User Group leader person I was able to integrate
right in to my job.  I also had fun, met some of the voices from the
other end of the phone, and lots of other people who have similiar
responsibilities.

Another member of our staff went in 1991 and 1992, and also came back
saying it was well worth the investment (both in time and money).

A tip - Make sure to attach at least a weekend to your trip for some
sight seeing.  One year I climbed up to Timpanogos Caves and went on a
day long White water rafting trip on the Green River.  The other year I
went up to Idaho and Wyoming with a stop at Park City too.

-Gail

p.s. I'll probably go again when they have the 6.0 conferences.


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From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: Undocumented feature of Tables!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:45:22 GMT

In <722510118snz@childsoc.demon.co.uk> mike@childsoc.demon.co.uk (Michael Bernardi) writes:

>I friday of last week a collegue and I both spend an hour or so trying to get
>a table AND some column type text together on the same page.
>Apparently even if you have a table only 2" wide you CANNOT place any text
>next to it! We tried joining cell together and blanking lines, BUT this
>didn't work either! In desparation we called WP support to be told the method
>to use was to save the table, and import it into a text box!
>You cannot use a table in columns either

Well.  Here is teh process; I do this regularly so I know it works.  I
put the tables in a table box (ALT-F9,2) [I use that because the
automatic caption already has Table in it; other graphics boxes also
work, such as the text box you were told to use.]  If your table
already exists you can simply block it copy it and then put it into a
table box.  The table box has several advantages over a simple table.
If a table would normally slop over a page (because it starts towards
the bottom of the page) a simple un-boxed table will print part on one
page and part on another - undesirable for esthetic reasons.  If it is
a table box, the whole table will be shifted to the next page.  You
can wrap text around a table box.  A normal table is just text; you
wouldn't normally expect to wrap text around text, would you.  But you
can do that (I call them boxed displays when I teach about them) if
the original text is in a text box.  Also you can position a table in
a column, if you put that table in a table box.  The only drawback I
can see (the actual process of putting table in a box is simple) is
that graphics boxes have lines around them.  These can be eliminated
through the Options.  I have an initial code that turns off these
lines around table boxes.
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Subject:      WP51 with NEC P6 Printer

Here's a question that has puzzled me ever since I upgraded to 5.1:

The NEC supports a hard 12 cpi font in both LQ and Draft mode, and this
worked fine with WP 5.0.  But WP 5.1 regressed to having it print 10 cpi
characters and just crowding them into 12 cpi space whenever I set it
to 12 cpi Draft (though LQ is fine).  Why has there been this "regression"
and what can I do about it?

A change from 5.0 to 5.1 which may be related: The NEC P6 has a built-in
"small" font, used for superscript characters, for instance.  The printer
driver in WP50 used these characters for superscript, while the driver in
5.1 resorts to "graphic" equivalents--which are fainter and harder to
read.

Any suggestions regarding this?

Dana Hollander
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From: tabitha@vms.huji.ac.il
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Subject: wp5.2
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:46:42 GMT
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Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In the annual printer edition of pc magazine, one
mail order company advertised upgrades to 5.2 for
both windows and dos.  Was this a mistake?  The
distributor here in Israel says 5.2 is coming out
soon for windows only.  Is he wrong?

-dennis turner

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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Request: Pgm to WP -> ASCII

Well sed will work nicely if you can write a script for it.
You only need to search for all items enclosed in brackets and remove
them throughout the document to make an ascii file.  These bracketed items
are wordperfect's codes.
I'll check into the documentation on sed that I have and see if I can
write a short script that will do this.
I have much more documentation on sed than the man page.
Sed for those who don't know is short for stream editor and
was originally found on unix systems and now has gone to
msdos type systems too.  There's a large file on it on the ftp sites that
provides a public domain executable and over 100k of very readable
documentation with plenty of examples.  The author wanted to get revenge
on unix man facility and unix people in particular and I think he has
done it too.  Maybe we can get him to get more revenge by documenting
some more commands in the future.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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From:         MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: ScreenExtender

There is a simple way to get the screen-text to behave in WP51: select
a font/size which arranges itself comfortably on the screen, and shift
to any other as needed only when actually printing. This can be easily
arranged in macros, and once I had the good sense to kiss my $95 goodbye
& toss ScreenExtender in the river, that's what I did.
Michael
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