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From: djohnson@cayley.waterloo.edu (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: Both Canadian teams in first place
Keywords: Canadian first
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:46:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.123959.22646@nstn.ns.ca> maceache@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Tim Maceachern) writes:
>I believe this is the first time (other than the first one or two days 
>of a season) that both Canadian teams have been in first place at the
>same time.  How'd you like a World Series played completely in Canada, eh?

Personally, I would love it.  The Toronto Maple Leafs vs Montreal Canadiens
rivalry is probably one the biggest rivalies in all of sports.  If the Jays
and Expos both made it to the World Series Canadian sport fans would go
crazy.  I hope it happens.

>
>*******************************************************************
>*         Tim MacEachern         * Tim_MacEachern@hawk.nstn.ns.ca *
>*     Software Kinetics Ltd.     *  or maceache@hawk.nstn.ns.ca   *
>* Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada *                                *
>*           Opinions expressed are the author's only              *
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--David Johnson
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Home/road differentials (was ARTIFICIAL TURF: EMBARRASSMENT)
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:04:39 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <1992Jul28.181500.21619@trentu.ca>, pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton) writes:
|> I don't have the numbers handy, but I believe that the Twins have been
|> playing about as well on the road as at home this year.  The last time I
|> checked, their home and road winning percentages were withing five points
|> of one another.

  Indeed, and before last night's games, although the Twins had the best
  overall record in the league they didn't have the best record at home!
  That honor went to the Blue Jays, also play in a dome - sometimes!

-Ron


|> 
|> Let's face it -- going back over the last ten years will show a huge
|> home/road difference for the Twins, but over the last few years, that
|> effect has dropped off considerably.  The installation of air
|> conditioning and the plexiglass over the left field wall really changed
|> the dynamics of the HubertDome.
|> 
|> Colin.
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Twins/Bo-Sox Game-8.......7/23/92 evening game
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:14:49 GMT

In article <92206.48084.6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM>, 6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
> >
> >You realize that there's only one way to stop rainouts from happening....
> >
> >David Thornley
> >"Fenway must be domed" - Cato the Elder
> 
> Dome 'em all !!!!!!!!
> 
> Wrigleydome
> Tigerdome
> Orioles Park at Camden Domes
> Comiskeydome
> Jack Murphy Dome


Who needs a dome on Jack Murphy? There hasn't been a rainout in SD
since the early 1980s. The CostOfDome/Rainouts/Decade will be in the
millions.


> Candlestick Dome  (actually not a bad idea)
> Billy K. "A baseball purist's nemesis"




--Prashanth
  prash@bhaskara.ucsd.edu
  U of California at San Diego
From: rrmst3+@pitt.edu (Roberto R Molinari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Cone threw how many pitches?
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:45:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

While watching some of the Dodgers/Mets game tonite I remembered something
I heard a day or so ago, but I just can't believe is true.  According to the
some announcers (I can't remember who since I don't remember which game I was
watching at the time), David Cone threw *166* pitches in his start last week.
Can anyone confirm/deny this?  And on the same subject, what's the record for
most pitches thrown by one pitcher in a game.  I'd especially like to hear
what the record is for the last 15 or so years.

thanks,

bert
-diehard sox fan (red that is)
From: rdetweil@hpbs1026.boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Observations on World Series Winners
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:54:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: mail.BrwEq0.FIA
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Boise Printer Division


 (rest of list deleted...)

 Looking at the list of World Series participants it hit me that there
 hasn't been a World Series yet that did not include at least one of the
 original 16 NL/AL teams or their ancestors.  After thirty chances or more,
 that seems quite a string.  What are the chances of breaking that this 
 year?  Lets see, Pads/Blue Jays, Expos/Blue Jays maybe...

 This also got me to thinking about franchise moves and name changes.  As best 
 as I can remember this is the way it breaks down:

 Of the original 16 clubs the following have stayed put:

 NL                                  AL
 =========================           =========================
 Chicago Cubs                        New York Yankees
 St. Louis Cardinals                 Boston Red Sox (were the Beaneaters?)
 Pittsburgh Pirates                  Cleveland Indians
 Philadelphia Phillies               Detroit Tigers
 Cincinnatti Reds                    Chicago White Sox

 The following are the movers:

 NL                                  AL
 =========================           =========================
 NY => SF Giants                     St. L. Browns => Baltimore Orioles
 Brklyn => LA (Trolley)Dodgers       Phil. => KC => Oak. Athletics
 Boston => Mlwk. => At. Braves       Wash. Senators => Minn. Twins (???)

 Expansion teams that have stayed put:

 NL                                  AL
 =========================           =========================
 Houston Astros (were Colt 45's)     California Angels
 NY Mets                             Toronto Blue Jays
 Montreal Expos                      Kansas City Royals
 San Diego Padres

 And expansion teams that have moved:

 NL                                  AL
 =========================           =========================
				     Wash. Senators => Texas Rangers
				     Seattle Pilots => Milwaukee Brewers
                                     Seattle Mariners

 Any baseball historians out there care to comment?

 How about a list of all the home ballparks that have been used by the various
 teams?


 Have fun,

 Dick Detweiler : rdetweil@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cangelosi update
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:33:43 GMT
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Jul21.230600.25733@midway.uchicago.edu>, clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Coleman) writes:

   [earlier stuffs deleted]

>Well, since I've always been in love with Cangelosi, let me suggest that the
>White Sox might consider his pitching prowess, given our well-publicized
>difficulties with Thigpen and Radinsky.  This is assuming, of course, that
>Doug Dascenzo isn't available!
>
      That brings me up a question:  There were a lot of position players
who would pitched an inning or two in those blowout games in past seasons.
I cannot recall anyone doing this yet this season.  Am I right?


>Bill Coleman
>A True John Cangelosi Fan
>
>
>
>-- 
>Bill Coleman
>clmn@midway.uchicago.edu

Edward Hui
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: GMaddux to Test Free Agency Waters
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 16:30:06 GMT

In article <92206.104324U13054@uicvm.uic.edu> Howard Wachtel <U13054@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <3644@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) says:
>>
>>In article <1992Jul23.202814.23407@tamsun.tamu.edu> rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu
>>(Jack McKinney) writes:
>>
>>>     Angels and Ministers of Grace defend us!!! Andre will bat 1.000 in any
>>>game he plays against the Cubs after what they're doing to him!!!
>>???
>>
>>What exactly are the Cubs doing to him?
>
>   Not offering Andre more than a one-year contract.  And not winning (not
>that the expansion team would win anything before Andre retires).

What is wrong with offering a below-average offensive RF who is 38 years old
a 1-year contract?  Offering that contract at all, I suppose...

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Blue Jays/Yankee Tickets Needed
From: <B5D@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:22:39 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

This is probably crazy, but what the heck.  Planning to be in
Toronto this weekend and would like (4) tickets to the Yankee
game on Sunday.  They are currently sold out!  Any information
will be appreciated.
I will be on the net today only.
Thanks.  Bill
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Herzog Seen Shopping In Syracuse
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:56:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.200127.8716@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> sinhaa@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Anand Sinha) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.171631.29521@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>
>>If the Angels can manage to pull this deal off, they are in good (but not
>>all that good) shape for next year:
>>
>>C:	Sprague
>>1B:	Barbara
>>2B:	Flora
>>SS:	Sojo or Gonzales
>Is Discarcina that bad?

IMO, yes.  He started the season well, but not that well, and now his offense
is again near the bottom of the league, as expected.

>>3B:	Kent
>>LF:	Bell
>>CF:	Curtis
>>RF:	Felix
>>DH:	Polonia/Salmon
>>
>>I like this lineup.  (And, if Kent can play shortstop, I might venture to
>>move him there and Curtis back to 3B to get Salmon into the lineup.)

>Kent plays 2nd well, but that doesn't help him in Toronto.  The way Salmon
>is hitting...who *is* Polonia to keep Salmon out of the lineup?

A leadoff man? :-)  Maybe Salmon can play first base if Barbara and Stevens
don't work out.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck McMath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: GMaddux to Test Free Agency Waters
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:46:32 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: MSD

In article <1992Jul20.204153.27489@tamsun.tamu.edu>,
rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney) wrote:
> 
> 
>      What about Cubs Right Fielder Andre Dawson? He's up for free agency come
> the end of the season. He may not come out as one of the highest paid, but
> some club is going to get a bundle.
>      The way I see it, if we lose Maddux and Dawson to free agency, we can
> pick up the contract on someone like Barry Bonds, and have some money left
> to improve our farm-support (8-) with some good draft picks.

I close my eyes... and see Andre ... in a teal uniform ... playing right
field... in Miami...

chuck

|- chuck mcmath - mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov - MSD, Inc. ------------|
|- National Library of Medicine - National Institutes of Health --|
|- Bethesda, MD 20894 ---- Not a Vice-Presidential candidate -----|
|- "Hey batter, hey batter, hey batter, swing" - Anon. -----------|
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: tom@capalo (Thomas Cheung)
Subject: Formula for ERA?
Organization: Intergraph, Palo Alto CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:01:39 GMT


Hello fans ,

Could someone tell me how to calculate ERA ?
Please e-mail as I don't want wasting bandwidth
on something this simple.Thanks in advance!

-- 
Thomas K. Cheung
tom@capalo.capalo.ingr.com
(415) 972-4140

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui)
Subject: Line up question
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:40:32 GMT

Earlier this year, someone posted about how they were upset that 
Herm Winningham batted third for the Red Sox in one game.  Apparently,
a player was scratched at the last minute, and he was inserted into the
lineup in the player's place without regard to the rest of the batting
order.

Well, last night the clean-up hitter for the Dodgers was:

	Todd Benzinger

Now I will type a bunch of periods so that everyone has a chance to clean
up whatever they were drinking off of their terminal screens.............
.........................................................................

Now in this game, it appeared that Benzinger was a last minute replacement
for Darryl Strawberry.  It looks like he was penciled into the same spot
as Darryl, and batted fourth for the same reason that Herm Winningham batted
third.  Is there an explanation for this?  I would like to know if:

	1. Major league teams are spending so much money on salaries
	   that they can't afford to buy erasers.
	2. Managers don't think that the batting order makes much of a
	   difference.
	3. There is a strange rule in effect that causes this to happen.
	   For example, is there a window in time where a change can
	   be made to a lineup card where a player can be replaced without
	   that player being made ineligible to play later?  Since the
	   announcers said that Strawberry was eligible to pinch hit, it
	   seems that it was not the case that Benzinger replaced 
	   Strawberry after the start of the game.

-- 
Warren Usui
aardvark@locus.com
uunet!lcc!aardvark
From: msw10@nepenthe.as (Michael S. Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sexy Baseball Players and Fraternities!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:21:44 GMT
Reply-To: msw10@nepenthe.as
Organization: Sun Microsystems


In article 83865@netnews.upenn.edu, roberts@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bo Jackson) writes: 

[summary of world's presence of Good and Evil deleted]

>My reaction to Ted's idiotic
>comment may have been a bit rash, but I'm just really tired of people
>who pre-judge others because of their race, origin, religious beliefs, and
>affiliations.

[arguments about validity of writing style criticizms deleted] 

>at least in his jungle the elephant wasn't looked
>down upon because he was fat and the monkey wasn't looked down upon because
>he was dark skinned and the snake wasn't condemned for hanging out with
>another type of snake and.......all were accepted equally.

[pronouncement of unchanged practices deleted]

>I'm still going to get aggravated every time someone condemns me who has
>no clue who I am and what I am about

Clearly, Shawn is concerned with prejudice and intolerance commendable...

In article <83797@netnews.upenn.edu> roberts@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bo Jackson) writes:

>And if you don't like the fact that
>I, as well as millions of other men, admire women who work hard to
>keep themselves looking great, then too bad!  If you don't do the same,
>then you are either a homosexual or a heterosexual with a severe
>hormone deficeincy!!

Hmmmmm. No sign of "pre-judgement", "condemnation", homophobia, prejudice or other 
forms of intolerance to be found here...


>....and I'm still gonna work hard as an
>active member of the Franklin Chapter of the ACACIA International Fraternity
>to make my community a better place to live...
>

Even for homosexuals or those short of testosterone or estrogen?

>Sorry again to all who had to listen to this -- PEACE --
>
>Back to your regularly scheduled program -- how 'bout them Red Sox?
>--

Don't you just love it when people end their posts with "Now that I've had the last
word, let's end this discussion as it doesn't belong in this group"?

>Shawn A. Roberts (roberts@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) |  "If I could wave my 
>University of Pennsylvania  CSE '93             |   magic wand, I'd make
>Vice President-->Dining Philosophers CSE Group  |   everything all right..."
>Proud ACACIA International Fraternity Brother   |          -- RUSH

Michael Wong.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: djohnson@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: Herzog Seen Shopping In Syracuse
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:52:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.131529.11284@bmerh85.bnr.ca> news@bmerh85.bnr.ca (Usenet News) writes:
>
>	Whitey Herzog has been at several Syracuse Chiefs (Toronto Blue Jays AAA
>Affiliate)  games over the last several days.  His primary interest is likely 
>Blue Jays catching prospect Ed Sprague.
> 
>	Also, during the Blue Jays west coast trip an unusually large number of
>Blue Jay executives and scouts have been poking their noses around.  
> 
>Question:  Are the Jays-Angels trade rumors we've been hearing about back on the 
>           rails?  What Angels' pitcher could the Jays be interested in now that
>           Abbott has been sidelined?  Langston?

Actually I have heard that this has been going on for a long time (about
a week before the allstar break it started).  We all know that the Jays
would love to get Abbott as they first drafted him but he didn'e sign.  The
Jays have also been scouting the Angels AAA affiliate Edmonton for a young
outfielder.  The rumors I heard were Derek Bell, Ed Sprague and Todd
Stottlemyre plus maybe another propect (possibly Hentgen) for Abbott and
a young outfielder.   When Abbott returns to health I wouldn't be surprised
if something happened.  I have also heard Bruce Hurst's name in a lot of
trade rumors around here.  With the Jays slumping lately look for something
to happen soon.  Could be a minor move (experianced quality bench help) or
a major move (pitching).

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: NL Stats for 7/20
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:41:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.153425.24189@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> starg@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (tony.a.stargel) writes:

>Just to let everybody know, Sheffield is missing in the NL stats
>for San Diego.

Damn, and I was about to post the RC/27 list for 3Bs...  I guess such a list
will be incomplete without Sheffield.  Don, do you have it?  Thanks...

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: maceache@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Tim Maceachern)
Subject: Both Canadian teams in first place
Summary: Both Canadian teams in first place
Keywords: Canadian first
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:39:59 GMT

I believe this is the first time (other than the first one or two days 
of a season) that both Canadian teams have been in first place at the
same time.  How'd you like a World Series played completely in Canada, eh?

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*         Tim MacEachern         * Tim_MacEachern@hawk.nstn.ns.ca *
*     Software Kinetics Ltd.     *  or maceache@hawk.nstn.ns.ca   *
* Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada *                                *
*           Opinions expressed are the author's only              *
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Free agency
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:49:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.183229.23738@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:

>Green Books.  As to your specific question, I don't have those references
>handy, but from what I do have handy, I do not think John Dopson will be
>eligible for free agency after this season.  

That's right.  When I looked at the stats, it seems like that Dopson spent
about a month at AAA to open '88, and then spent the rest of the season in
Montreal.  Then, this year is his 5th year.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner)
Subject: End of regular season?
Originator: kirchner@hphalle1a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:32:11 GMT


When does the regular season end ? (Yes, I know - after last game; but the
correct date would be very nice)
When is the World Series this year?
						Thanks in advance,
								   Robert	


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  Technical University of Munich
  Bavaria, Germany
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From: 6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: 47 True Blue Brew Crew in '92!
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 20:27:54 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>Since I've been hit (hard!) by the Pennant Fever bug, I feel the need to
>get some things out of my system before they dissipate completely. First,
>since they've tormented us for the past few years, a quote for the playoff
>hopes of the White Sox and their obnoxious fans.
>
>"Nah Nah Nah Nah, Nah Nah Nah Nah, hey, hey, goodbye!" ;)
>
>Second, at this very moment, Jaime Navarro is the best pitcher in major
>league baseball. To say he's in a "zone" would be an understatement.
>
>hird, if it weren't for injuries, Paul Molitor would be known as the second
>est leadoff hitter ever (some guy named Rickey comes to mind) and would
>e a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame.
>
>ourth, Molitor, Bill Wegman, Doug henry, and Jim Gantner could make
>anyone's all-underrated team and that's a shame.
>
>Fifth, the Brewers finished the last 69 games of last year at 40-19, the
>best in the majors. If they went 36-18 the rest of the way, they'd duplicate
>that feat and end up at 90-72, which would at least keep them in the pennant
>race. And that would make me very happy because it would give me another few
>weeks before I had to start thinking about the Bucks and Packers and their
>(mis)fortunes!
>
>--Salty
Power to ya, cheeshead!
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