From: tin@smsc.sony.com (Le Tin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese,alt.politics.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [POL]
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:31:02 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.vietnamese
Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp, San Jose, CA


  Please set your political discussion articles with the Followup-To
  line to alt.politics.vietnamese.  It is perfectly ok to start the
  discussion on SCV, but all followups should go to APV.  That way
  you give people a chance to see if they wish to join the discussion,
  yet without burden SCV with politics.  Thank you.

  I do not mean to pick on Hai, but there is a misunderstanding that
  need to be clear up immediately.

In article <9212281433.AA09042@oceanus.mitre.org> Hai Tran <htran@OCEANUS.MITRE.ORG> writes:
>
>  ...........[deleted].....
>
>        Then, what do the people in Vietnam have for their life but the
>        simple concern for subsistence until the next day?
>
>        To those of you enthusiastic about the possibility of
>        redemption of the Communists by advocating cooperation in the
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>        name of the suffering of our people in Vietnam, I wish you
>        luck.

  This is incorrect.  So far of all the discussions I have seen on
  SCV, no one call for "cooperation" with the Communist government
  of Vietnam.  If you have such proofs, please show me the article(s)
  where that is so.  Maybe there is a misunderstanding...

  I have seen people calling for cooperation _AMONG_ ourself
  (which is a big difference from that of cooperating with CSVN).
  I have seen people calling for learning from our tortured,
  war-torn history; for learning to forgive past pain and hurts,
  for more positive thinking and rebuilding; for having compassion
  for those who are still unfortunate enough to be in Vietnam and
  are suffering.  These and more, calls for constructive work
  among Vietnamese, I have seen.  But none of the kinds you
  mentioned.

>        I somehow cannot convince myself of that prospect, not after
>        three and half years living and working in their system. I had
>        a rather "good job" compared with others and was able to know
>        alot more about their policies and practices, not just what was
>        announced and distributed.  More later.

  You are right, "their" [communism] political system does not work.
  Most, if not all, communist countries are beginning to understand that.
  But look at how long it took the USSR to understand this, and how
  much problems and work they have to go through in order to change
  their system.  You should understand that this is not something that
  can be change overnight.  "Patience is a virtue" fits this very well.

  We are seeing glimmers of changes in Vietnam.  It takes time to
  nurture and support these changes.  I firmly believe that as
  Vietnamese on the "outside," it is our duty to provide supports
  in the form of information, emotional (letting them know we back
  them), knowledge (teaching the reformers Western economics,
  laws, political systems and give them the change to decide and
  apply what is useful to Vietnam).  We are on the outside looking
  in, and I can understand very well yours (and mine) burning
  desire for quick change.  But think of those who are there now,
  and who stands to suffer the most from such changes.  It is
  they, who will directly experience any changes.  A large
  political infrastructure, such as that in Vietnam, take time to
  change (unless you wish to resort to violent means -- such as
  revolution and war).

  Despite incessant arguments (and sometime waste of valuable resources),
  I feel that there is a supporting role in helping Vietnam for all of us.
  If only we could all work together, or at least not wasting our valuable
  time making charges and counter-charges.

Regards,
Tin Le
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