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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:28:52 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Empire Quiz -- November...

The Keep It In The Family Quiz!

God knows, making it in Hollywood is tough: it takes guts, talent,
determination and, more often than not, at least one famous family member
who can help you get a job.  Just name the Tinseltown families below...

 1. Which British brothers are between them famous for Legend and
    Days of Thunder?

 2. Which Oscar-winning actress is the daughter of an Oscar-winning
    director and an honourary oscar-winning actress?

 3. Who are Laura Dern's parents?

 4. What relation is Bridget Fonda to Henry Fonda?

 5. What is Shirley MacLaine's real surname?

 6. Which Hollywood dynasty boasts three generations of Oscar winners:
    actor, director, actress?

 7. How many acting Baldwin brothers are there?

 8. What sibling producer-director partnership made Blood Simple?

 9. Which four sets of acting brothers appeared as the James-Younger Gang
    and fellow gunmen in the Western The Long Riders?

10. What relation is Sean Penn to Arthur Penn?

Good luck to one and all.  Answers directly to me, please, at:

		lcc@win.icl.co.uk
					Liam.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:24:32 PST
From:         Geoff Davis <DAVIS@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      John Wayne on TBS

Since haloween, TBS has been treating us to "Ten days of the Duke," and my
major b***h is that my all time favorite, "The Quiet Man," was NOT in the
lineup.  I was consoled, however to find among the films in the course of
the presentation named "The Wings of Eagles," dealing with a Navy flier from
the early days of flying, (I think post-WWI) who becomes crippled somehow and
becomes a playwright in Hollywood.  The character's name was Frank "Spig"
Wead.  I am curious.  I want to know if this person really existed, because
during that film they were showing one with Clark Gable in a fistfight during
a rush screening, and the film was supposedly written by him.  I think it
was called "Wildcats of the Navy."  Wayne did a nice job in that film.

(I loved that Stutz Bearcat that was in the film, a real neat machine,
odds are Wayne probably bought it.)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 19:58:00 GMT
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Actors: De Niro, Pacino, Hackman, Duvall, Gary Oldman, Daniel
Day Lewis, River Phoenix, Redford, Nicholson, Newman, Pesci,
and Brando.
Actresses: Streep, Sarandon, Jennifer Jason Leigh, De Mornay,
Vanessa Redgrave, Angelica Huston, Jessica Lange, Sigourney
Weaver, Juliette Lewis.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:36:14 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Election night

>From: MDESCHUYTENE <MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET>
>
>    Talk about a tough choice (except, maybe, for Liam if he lived around
>    here): watch the poll returns on just about every channel or HUDSON
>    HAWK on Showtime... 8-)

No contest, Michel... I like to think I've got my priorities sorted out...

				Liam.
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From: CX935C@GWUVM.BITNET (patrick)
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Subject: Re: Election night
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:08:41 GMT
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Just thought I would be a little nitpicky here but isn't Jan Hooks off of SNL
 and on Designing Women now?
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:30:05 GMT
From:         "(John Smyth)" <eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      Tampopo

> Tampopo was his first big hit in the US and it is short
>vinvettes about the Japanese obsession with food, sex, and food & sex!

>Sean "Doc Syracuse" Farquharson

A great movie, it certainly put Mickey Rourke and Kim Basinger's
frolicking by the fridge into the shade !


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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:02:35 -0500
From:         "(Ens Alexander W Ellermann)" <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Virus *HOAX*

Well, folks, looks like I got tricked on this one.  Sorry for any uproar it
may have caused.  Now, please excuse me while I go off to a corner to wipe
the egg off my face.
                                                                Alex

>
>
>  > From comp.virus Wed Nov  4 15:37:22 1992
>  > Subject: WARNING - Proto virus hoax (PC)
>  > Message-ID: <0001.9210291658.AA22663@barnabas.cert.org>
>  > Date: 29 Oct 92 16:44:45 GMT
>  > Sender: virus-l@lehigh.edu
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>  > Approved: news@netnews.cc.lehigh.edu
>
>  > A number (!) of people have forwarded a bboard posting to me regardin
>  > a new virus known as PROTO-T.  By all reputable accounts, these
>  > messages appear to be a hoax, intended to stir up the "rumor mills".
>  > Thus, until and unless I hear otherwise from a reputable and
>  > verifiable source, I am going to reject all subsequent postings
>  > related to this "virus".
>
>  > Please people, help stop the rumor mills.  They are counterproductive
>  > and not in the best interest for anyone.
>
>  > Thanks for your cooperation,
>
>  > Ken
>
>  > Kenneth R. van Wyk
>  > Moderator VIRUS-L/comp.virus
>  > Technical Coordinator, Computer Emergency Response Team
>  > Software Engineering Institute
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>  > (412) 268-7090  (CERT 24 hour hotline)
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:47:25 -0500
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      Certificates?

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            05-Nov-1992 12:41pm EST
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SUBJECT: Certificates?

    Could someone elaborate on this certificate 12/15 thing? I assume it's
    the UK equivalent of the US rating system and I'm curious to see how
    they compare.
    Thanks.

    MICHEL
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:50:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Miller's Goodfellas

Miller's Crossing is a triumph of style over substance. But next to
Goodfellas, this film and other gangster films(excluding Godfather I
and II) are like something you hold up at the end of a toothpick. The
Godfathers and Goodfellas are the definitive mob films. They should've
stopped making anymore. Although Bugsy and Miller's Crossing are
honorable attempts.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:49:28 -0500
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      MILLER'S CROSSING/GOODFELLAS

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            11-Nov-1992 04:51pm EST
FROM:  MDESCHUYTENEER
TO:    Remote Addressee                     ( _cinema-l@auvm.bitnet )

SUBJECT: MILLER'S CROSSING/GOODFELLAS

    I liked both MILLER'S CROSSING and GOODFELLAS but on different terms.
    They were both well filmed and superbly acted. I don't think these
    movies can be fairly compared in terms of the portrayal of the mob.

    GOODFELLAS is an uncompromising and realistic chronicle of life in the
    contemporary underworld. It definitely is a movie about the mob. It
    borders on the documentary. The choice of characters and their
    interactions add another dimension which makes it the masterpiece it
    is.

    MILLER'S CROSSING is a suspense drama about people. It happens to be
    staged within the mob world but this is incidental. This picture could
    just as well be a Western or set in the middle ages. The possibilities
    are endless with the very same script and very little adjustments. Try
    and imagine it. Because of this, MILLER'S CROSSING does not have the
    depth of GOODFELLAS but it stands on its own merits.

    From this perspective, a movie that IMO is intermediate between these
    (and is often forgotten among recent mob movies) is ONCE UPON A TIME IN
    AMERICA. Check it out.

    MICHEL
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:20:39 EST
From:         Dennis Downes <DENNISD@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RE:The Loved One

I never saw the movie, but I dug the book out of a friend's library
a few months ago. After I read it , I made him read it. I'm glad to see this
disscussion because so far we thought we were the only ones who new anything
about it. Mr Joyboy has now become a cult character.


                                                    dennis
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:20:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Flirting

Siskel and Ebert already reviewed it in their show and declared
it one of the best films of the year.
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Date: 9 Nov 92 17:45:45 GMT
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Had a mini Akira Kurosawa film festival over the weekend (They didn't have
The Icicle Thief @ my local outlet, Susan).  I was impressed with Toshiro
Mifune's performance in Throne of Blood, but his work in The Seven Samurai
left me flat.  He spent all his time yelling, it seemed, & I couldn't develop
any sympathy for him.  I thought Ran stacked up much better against Throne of
Blood.  The latter seemed to move more quickly, but the former had a lot more
power.
A question:  What is the name of the actor who played the eldest Samurai (the
leader in The Seven Samurai and the victorious general at the end of Throne
of Blood?  I liked him & I couldn't read the japanese credits.  What else has
he been in?
                                        Alex
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:32:57 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Dracula

Today's _Washington Post_ gave Dracula a rave review, but since this is the
same paper that convinced me to see not-terribly-scary Hellraiser III, I
trust the impressions I'ev read on this list more.

By the way, all this talk about Dracula got me thinking about the version
starring Frank Langella that came out around 15 years ago.  I remember it as
a sexy, scary film that delivered on its promise to entertain.  I think
Laurence Olivier played Van Helsing.  Basically, I'm bringing all this up be-
cause I read somewhere that Coppola said he wanted to present a _sexy_ movie
and I remember that Dracula being *sehr* sexy.  I know my sister was so
enamored of Frank Langella (whatever happened to...) that she was first in line
to see Sphinx and Vagabond King.

Just thought I'd bring that out.

                                                Alex
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:31:24 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Batman certificate question

>From: "(DJ Robinson)" <u0f98@KEELE.AC.UK>
>
>Can anybody tell me the first film to be given a certificate 12 in the
>UK. The hype machine will tell you it was Tim Burton's Batman released
>in August 1989, but I have also read that the first film was Madame
>Souzatzka released in March 1989. I would like to hear people's views on
>this one, and maybe I can get the answer.

I always thought the certificate was introduced specifically for
_Batman_.  I suppose that it is possible that they "tested" it on
another film(s) beforehand, though.

>BTW, I also read that a vote was cast in favour of having a 12
>certificate on video but they won't carry this out because it is
>believed to be harder to spot whether a person is under 12 in a video
>shop than it is in a cinema, and that renting a video out to a person
>aged less than the category rating is a criminal offence.

I never noticed this.  Are you sure that there aren't vids with `12'
certificates?  I'll have to look  noxt time I'm in a video shop.
The reasoning sounds suspect, too... how can it be harder to tell an
under-12 in a shop than in a cinema???  It doesn't exactly flatter
video shop assistants (or maybe people who work in cinemas get
special training...)

BTW, _Terminator 2_ was cut for its video release over here, so that
it could get a 15 certificate.  Feh!

			Liam.
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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     12-Nov-1992 02:01pm EST
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Subject: RE: Babette's Feast

On the subject of the comedy of remarriage, see "My Favorite Wife."
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:23:31 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Wayne's World

>From: C444307 <C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
>
>>Now to cinema again:
>>Can anyone tell me why Wayne's World had such a success in the U.S.???
>>It came to Mexico as a two-thumbs-up movie and IMHO it was dreadful.
>>
>I've heard that many of the jokes depend upon
>cultural experiences within the US.

I don't agree... I found it to be one of the funniest movies of the
year (closely followed by _My Cousin Vinny_.)

I didn't miss any of the jokes (knowingly), except the one about
Gray Poupon mustard.
			Liam.
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                                   * Hector; you're part of his work,
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:33:01 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Where are they now...

Whatever happened to... #3 in an occasional series:

Lee Majors:  Best known as everyones favourite Bionic Man, who was worth
             Six Million Dollars.  The show spawned a bionic woman and a
             bionic dog.  Majors also starred in _The Fall Guy_, a comedy
             drama about a hollywood stuntman.  But where is he now...?

                                   *"Remember last Easter, 12 months to
                                   *  the day?  The Polymorph?"
     KERR AVON    |   Work: ICL,   *"That's right!  You were attacked
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lcc@win.icl.co.uk |    Scotland    *  the same guy, twice?"
                                   *"Last time it was hors-d'oeuvres,
   "I belong to Glasgow...         *  this time, it's lunch!"
       Dear Auld Glesga toon..."   *       -- Lister, Kryten and Cat
                                   *              (Red Dwarf IV)
From: bert@KSTAD2.SUNET.SE ((BERT DEIVERT - FILM - UNIV. OF KARLSTAD,
              SWEDEN))
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Date: 5 Nov 92 07:44:02 GMT
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If anyone has an ASCII text file of film noir films with dates, directors,
cast, and other information, I would love to receive it.  Send it straight
to me please--- Bert@kstad2.sunet.se
Any help is appreciated.  Thanks,
Bert Deivert
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:46:00 EST
From:         AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU
Subject:      Re: John Wayne on TBS

In reply to your b***h about THE QUIET MAN, I beg to differ.  I distinctly
remember an advertisement for that movie being include in the 10 days
feature.  I remember it because it too is one of my favorite Duke movies (
along with THE GREEN BERETS).  As a matter of fact, I believe it was one of
the first that was going to be shown, scheduled for either last Sunday or
Monday.

Sorry, but can't reply to your other inquiry.

Adrian
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:38:39 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Cotton Comes to Harlem, Himes ...

Rick,

Cotton Comes to Harlem is a film I haven't seen in many years, but I remember
it as being at least a few cuts above typical "blaxploitation" films of the
time (heck, I wouldn't even put it in that league).  It was also Ossie Davis'
directorial debut.

Cotton Club was (according to _The Motion Picture Guide_) based on a book of
photographs by James Haskins.  In the current Books in Print there's tons of
books on black subjects by a James or Jim Haskins, but none on Harlem, so it
may be out of print.  At any rate, the screenplay using this book as inspira-
tion was by William ("Ironweed") Kennedy, Francis Coppola, and Mario Puzo.

Jeff Clark
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From:         Geoff Davis <DAVIS@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Babette's Feast
              12 Nov 1992 11:30:09 -0500 from <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>

Hallelujah, a cultured moviegoer!

  I saw it about five years ago at Camera 3 cinema in downtown San Jose.  The
theater plays these "art" films for the large amount of yuppies in this area.
I had the pleasure of watching this film about walking the narrow path of right
eousness, decency, and self denial expressed in the gospels (although at an
extreme) and being rewarded for their devotion to those principles through
a feast.  (Babette's idea of heaven)  It also delivers an interesting message,
at least as I see it, that the world, beautiful as it is, and full of treasures
, is still falling short of the expectations of one's soul.  I guess it's, in a
sense, a tribute to St. Augustine of Hippo. (You find out yourself)  It is
peaceful, serene picture.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:38:00 EST
From:         AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU
Subject:      Re: Searching for Coppola

P.S...To put my last comments into perspective...No, I wasn't having the
discussion of THE GODFATHER PART III with myself.  I had the discussion with
my boyfriend and he was the one who thought it was a washout comparted to I and
II.

Adrian
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