HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jstewart@alfred.carleton.ca (John Stewart)
Subject: Re: Cnews Performance
Keywords: diskload FFS
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:08:50 GMT

In <1992Jul21.143918.4244@informatik.uni-ulm.de> news@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Usenet news system) writes:

>We plan to reorganize our News-Server. This service migrates to a new Sun
>and also does the 1 GB Disk which contents the spool area (700 MB) and
>the local-partition (150 MB) including the news/lib Directory with the
>control files. We need then another disk for the SunOS and some other
>partitions. I think about moving the local-partition to this other disk
>and putting the OS on the free area. Will this improve the news-Service
>significantly ?

>		________________________________________
>		|	|				|
>		|OS	|	Spooling		|
>	    ____|	|				|  old disk
>	   /	|	|				|
>	  /	________________________________________
> swapped	________________________________________
>	  \	|	|				|
>	   \____|local	|   some home part.| software	|  new one
>		|	|				|
>		|	|				|
>		________________________________________

Assuming the machine is used primarily for news service, disk accesses to
/usr/spool/news will greatly exceed all other disk io combined.  It would
therefore be better to also put the OS on the new disk to reduce disk
accesses on the old disk.

On our machine we have 3 disks that are allocated as follows.

   Disk 1   root file system, /usr and /usr/lib/newsbin
   Disk 2   /usr/spool/news and some rarely accessed archives
   Disk 3   /usr/lib/news, home directories and a few miscellaneous things

One more way to reduce your disk accesses is to mount /tmp as a tmpfs 
(memory resident directory).
-- 
John Stewart -- Computing and Communications Services, Carleton University
Internet: jstewart@ccs.carleton.ca or Mr.Canoehead@algonquin.carleton.ca  
"Why can't we just forget about our constitutional problems and go canoeing?"
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: phil@dec3.opsys.Oryx.com (Phil Meyer)
Subject: seeking nntp feed
Reply-To: phil@dec3.opsys.oryx.com
Organization: Oryx Energy, Dallas, Texas.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:59:16 GMT

Seeking nntp feed.  We now have only one feed, but we would like to
have at least one other to insure that the news will get through.

We have a 'standard' feed minus a few bulkier(shaplier) news groups.

Thanks!
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Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Cnews Performance
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<jstewart.711734930@cunews> <CKD.92Jul21164839@loiosh.eff.org>
	<1992Jul21.211916.2919@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:55:01 GMT

Eliot> == Eliot Lear <lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com> 

 Eliot> Chris, how many news readers do you have?

Ah, someone spotted the catch... ;-)

Probably about 10-30 medium to heavy users.  Probably 2 GNUSers, a few
nnites, 5 or so rn'ers, and a bunch (uncountable) of Mac readers
(Newswatcher & Nuntius, mostly).

Readers are the real load on most systems.

(This is also why MIT has snorkelwacker to pump news, and bloom-beacon &
bloom-picayune to support the readers... I bet there aren't too many
users reading news off zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu, either.)
--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
Xref: sparky news.sysadmin:1145 news.admin:6049 news.answers:2221 news.lists:331
From: news@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Usenet news system)
Subject: Cnews Performance
Keywords: diskload FFS
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 14:39:18 GMT

We plan to reorganize our News-Server. This service migrates to a new Sun
and also does the 1 GB Disk which contents the spool area (700 MB) and
the local-partition (150 MB) including the news/lib Directory with the
control files. We need then another disk for the SunOS and some other
partitions. I think about moving the local-partition to this other disk
and putting the OS on the free area. Will this improve the news-Service
significantly ?

		________________________________________
		|	|				|
		|OS	|	Spooling		|
	    ____|	|				|  old disk
	   /	|	|				|
	  /	________________________________________
 swapped	________________________________________
	  \	|	|				|
	   \____|local	|   some home part.| software	|  new one
		|	|				|
		|	|				|
		________________________________________


Another Question:
The Berkeley FFS tries to collect files in the same directory in the same
cyl.group. But in C-news, the file will first been written in the in.coming
directory and then (clearly) linked to the proper spool-directory - so
the filesystem isn't in a optimezed state. Will this have bad effects ?
Can we do something against that ?
Newsgroups: news.config,news.sysadmin
From: swhite@tybse1.uucp (William C. "Spike" White)
Subject: NNTP feed wanted
Organization: Tybrin Corporation, Shalimar, FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:28:41 GMT

Overnight NNTP feed wanted.  nntpxfer or nntpxmit, your choice. Currently have 
a LD UUCP feed from Alabama we wish to supplement or replace.  We are in a
small metropolitan area and have no local sites from which to get newsfeeds.  
Read-only access is fine; posting not required. 


-- 
Spike White     Tybrin Corporation, Shalimar, FL | Moderation in all things --
swhite@afseo.eglin.af.mil                        | and abstinence in none! 
Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not my employer.
From: consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg)
Newsgroups: news.config
Subject: NEWS,MAIL feed needed, BINGHAMTON, NY
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:27:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Binghamton University Computing Services - The POD Staff

Hi everyone!
(This is a repost from earlier due to propagation problems at the University)

I am looking for a (uncensored, complete) news feed including mail
service.  The more complete a news feed, the better.

I am located in Vestal, NY, 1 mile from Binghamton, NY, which is
located on the Southern Tier of New York State, so PA sites would be
useful as well (but NY preferred)!  I have a v32bis/42bis/MNP2-5 14.4k
bps modem which can handle a large number of speeds and configurations
I would much prefer to poll your system nightly so I won't get in your
way.

Thanks, and I await your response!

Kris Rehberg
consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
tel (607) 777-9938
--
Kriston J. Rehberg, POD Consultant          consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
Binghamton University Computing Services    CONSP03@BINGVAXA.BITNet
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"Your lack of common decency reminds me of a computer" - emacs M-x flame
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Many thanks to the Morons!
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:39:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.163421.6012@polari> osiris@polari.online.com
(David Ruggiero) writes:

>Perhaps Mr. Cohen can forward the answers he receives to some kind soul
>who will collate them into a new, improved "What is Usenet? FAQ, to augment
>or replace the current one provided by Gene Spafford.

I've already mailed him a copy of Spaf's "Usenet: History and
Sources," which is much closer to what he's after.  This is posted
periodically to news.announce.newusers, news.groups, and several of
the other news.* groups.

>(That's the document
>which, as pointed out by others, attempts to answer the question "What is
>an elephant?" by saying "It's not a Buick!".)

Although Usenet is certainly about as graceful as an elephant, or
perhaps several dozen of them in a drunken stupor, it is tragically
far less simple a beast.  "What is an elephant?"  "What is a Buick?"
"What is an armchair?"  These are all simple, straightforward
questions to ask and to answer.  "What is liberty?"  "What is mass
media?"  "What is Usenet?"  These are not.

This concept is probably the greatest stumbling block for newcomers to
the net to grasp, especially if they are expecting Usenet to be about
as complicated as their local newspaper.  Describing what Usenet is by
describing what it is not, and thus defusing many common
misconceptions about it, is one of the best explanations of the
workings of Usenet I've seen.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: twb2029@cc.utah.edu (Black, Trevor W.)
Subject: Listing headers
Reply-To: twb2029@cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 26 JUL 92 01:04:41    

I need a little help here.  I am trying to figure out how to list the headers 
to the msg.'s so I don't have to read everyone to find something I actually 
want to read.  I am not using emacs or rn as they don't work on my system.  I 
am not even sure the name of the news reader.  All I know is that I type VNEWS 
to get here.  I can read and post just fine but if there is some way to list 
headers and I just don't know about it, please fill me in.

Thanks in advance,

So as not to clutter feel free to send directly to my e-mail address below.

>>>--> Trevor

Trevor.Black@m.cc.utah.edu

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: HELP: Signatures
Organization: AS&M Inc
	<1992Jul22.112736.202070@uctvax.uct.ac.za>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:38:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.112736.202070@uctvax.uct.ac.za> mncmic02@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

   In article <AFA5CEU@math.fu-berlin.de>, guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:
   > frsdav04@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
   > 
   >>This could be a FAQ but what the Hell.
   >>
   >>How do you possibly change your signature or if you prefer attach it.
   > 
   > "This could be a FAQ" ? It COULD be a FAQ ? Hell - it IS a FAQ! Argh!
   Jeez, so it is an FAQ. SO BLOODY WHAT?! We're pretty new to this, ya know.
   Either send a decent reply or stop wasting bandwidth (or alternatively,
   explain FAQ's and their locations, and how to get them!!).

Many newsreader/posters automatically append ~/.signature to a post.
Generally these are the rn-family on *NIX boxes.  RTFM.  If your
system doesn't work this way, be kind enough to inform us about your
system, i.e., machine/operating system and newsreader and version.

--
J Lee Jaap <jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23665-5225
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: CONTACT
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:18:04 GMT

In article <543.245.uupcb@u2u.lonestar.org> matthew.hudson@u2u.lonestar.org (Matthew Hudson) writes:

   I need to get in contact with Stephen Rogers on internet but I don't
   know how to send mail to him and all I know is his name..Could some one
   please help me

Any idea what part of the world he inhabits?  The net is worldwide.
Also, soc.net-people would likely be appropriate for this type of post.
--
J Lee Jaap <jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23665-5225
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen)
Subject: I'm a moron
Reply-To: bx953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David R. Cohen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:03:25 GMT


Well, I'm not really a moron, but I need you to treat me as though I am for
the purpose of this question. 

I have been using the net for about 6 months, and have read most of the
news.***.newuser stuff.  However, I have not seen this question
answered anywhere.

In VERY simple and BASIC terms, how does the usenet work and 
how did it come into
being.  For instance, someone told me that once upon a time, schools sent
lots of research results to eachother over computer, and some dweebs got
the great idea of using the downtime to set up e-mail and usenet.  This
sounds too simple or wrong, but it is the level of detail I need -- simple.
Can someone tell me how usenet works and how the computers all hook into
eachother with the same postings around the world, as though I am in 6th
grade?  

Please e-mail responses.  This info is actually going into an article I am
writing for non-computer users.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= THIS MESSAGE IS FROM  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
|             David R. Cohen or Tracey L. Ridgeway              |
|                  bx953@cleveland.freenet.edu                  |
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From: s308234@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (Christopher J Biggs)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: A simple tar question...
Keywords: tar
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:24:22 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Queensland Uni, Australia

In <yuan1.711723833@husc9> yuan1@husc9.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan) writes:

>I have a very simple tar question that I can't seem to find the answer to;
>how do I un-tar a file, say test.tar, that exists in my account, and not
>on a tape?  I know the x switch specifies extraction, but I can't seem to
>force it not to look at an external device.

The thing you want is the 'f' option.

	this tells tar to use a specific file.

	eg:  tar xf fred.tar
	  will extract files from fred.tar in current dir.

	C J Biggs.
-- 
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  /     \<--- Dept. Computer Science, The University of Queensland
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       v   "veni vidi nuclei deiceri --- I came. I saw.  I dumped core!"
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Internet Sites at the Bank of Bermuda
From: gagne_e@eis.dofasco.ca (Elizabeth Gagne)
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:39:58 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: gagne_e

Are there any sites in Bermuda using the Internet? Specifically the Bank of
Bermuda......
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: sveta@titul.obninsk.su (Shirina Svetlana)
Subject: WANTED: Looking for partners in collection commercial offers for the russian weeklies "Bulletin of prices"
Reply-To: sveta@titul.obninsk.su
Organization: JSC TITUL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:01:33 +0300

>From sveta Thu Jul 23 12:05:15 MSD 1992
Gentelmens!

We are looking for partners in collection commercial offers
for the russian periodical edition (weeklies) "Bullitin of prices".
"Bullitin of prices" is weekly collection of classified sale offers
of goods and materials.


General manager     Sergey Kononenko

P.S. We'll be very much obliged to all who inform us:
which groups of USENET or any other mail (if exists) we can
place that announcement in? (i.e. which group will be more
effective for that announcement).

TITUL publishers
box 5055
Kaluga region
Obninsk, Russia
249020






Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: tchamov@sunran1.cern.ch (Nikolay Tchamov)
Subject: NEW-Projects 
Keywords: Electronics, Computers, Education, Research, Design
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:07:51 GMT

***************************************************************************

                                 July 24th, 1992, CERN
                                 Geneve, Suisse/Switzerland


Dear Sirs,

I didn`t find a news-group(s) dealing with European Projects like
TEMPUS in example, except ESPRIT & EUROCHIP which is not much 
supplied by news and discusions. 

Do such News-groups exist, where someone can get up-to-date information
about European projects in the fields of :

  Electronics & Computers & Education & Research & Design ?

If not, please give a hint how to get Up-to-date E-mail information 
about projects like those handled by Brussels etc. 

It is too bad to get those informations by ordinary mail 
quite late (sometimes about 2 weeks before the time to apply).

Having such networks and losing some chances is too sad fact.

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

Sincerely,

Nick

--------------------------------------------------------- 
  P.S. Please reply either here (in this News-group) or
  directly to my E-mail address:

                    tchamovn@cernvm.cern.ch

****************************************************************************
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: "alt." newsgroups question!
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:09:40 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <1992Jul22.180510.160012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> cdl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CONRAD DANIEL LLOYD-KNIGHT) writes:

>   I am having trouble finding a bunch of newsgroups starting with the prefix
> "alt.". As far as I can tell, these newsproups appear to be an optional news
> package that the netserver can recieve along with everything else if whoever's

In a nutshell, the person at your site who runs news can choose which
"bunches" to receive. The technical term is "hierarchies." "Alt,"
"comp," and "soc" are all examples of hierarchies. Many sites choose
not to receive "alt" groups, sometimes because they take up a lot of
space, sometimes because they do not want to receive the "less
serious" groups. You should ask your site administrator what the
choices are at your site.
  Another thing is that most sites get their news from only one other
site, "upstream" from them. If *that* site does not carry something,
your site cannot get it from them. 
  Good luck!
--
System Administrator                  Internet: betsys@cs.umb.edu
MACS Dept, UMass/Boston               BITNET:ESCHWARTZ%UMBSKY.DNET@NS.UMB.EDU
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Boston, MA 02125-3393                      of constant information....
From: sasmith@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: SCDOWN
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:00:40 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul30.125424.761@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, sasmith@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
> a test post

A followup test.
From: bguest9@bsg9.Corp.Sun.COM (Kristian Skrinak)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Getting an Internet Connection
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:20:54 GMT
Reply-To: bguest9@bsg9.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: bsg9.corp.sun.com


I want to get an Internet Connection for another site. How do I find one?

Please respond directly.


Kris
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: lefevre@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Franck Lefevre)
Subject: Script for extracting messages
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:44:57 GMT

 I'm looking for a (UNIX) script which automatically extracts one or several
messages from a given newsgroup and saves them into a file. 

                                 Thanks in advance,
                                                       Franck
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: marina@tk.mainet.msk.su (Naumenko M.V.)
Subject: help me please
Reply-To: marina@tk.mainet.msk.su
Organization: Moscow Aviation Institute, PDTK
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:14:01 +0400

        Would you give  me some more information about following
groups:
bit.listserv.confer-l,bit.listserv.erl-l,bit.listserv.media-l,bit.listserv.slart-l,
bit.listserv.spires-l,bit.listserv.ucp-l,news.announce.conferences,news.announce.important,
soc.college?
        Also I need  information  about fee for announcements in
this groups.
                M.V.


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: HELP: Signatures
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:48:00 GMT

guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:

>frsdav04@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

>>This could be a FAQ but what the Hell.
>>
>>How do you possibly change your signature or if you prefer attach it.

>"This could be a FAQ" ? It COULD be a FAQ ? Hell - it IS a FAQ! Argh!

Sven, you're wasting bandwidth and my time ... *sigh*


-- 
Samuel Ko (kko@sfu.ca), the ultimate source of wisdom ...
"Just call my name, and I'll be there..." - Mariah Carey

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Invisible Newsgroups?
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:43:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.125050.202073@uctvax.uct.ac.za> mncmic02@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

   How can I read newsgroups which seem to be out there, yet don't show
   up on my NETNEWS prog?

   I'm on a VAX system...

I assume that `seem to be out there' means groups others have
mentioned but aren't active at your site.  If so, get a feed for those
groups.  If you aren't the newsadmin, ask him to do so.  If your site
is supposed to be receiving those groups, check the configuration of
news.
--
J Lee Jaap <jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23665-5225
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
Subject: Clarinet newswire service
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:53:56 GMT


How is this to be accessed now -- I can't seem to find it in
the hierarchy (sp?) ? -- Thanks, David.
-- 
David Caldwell (CALDWELL@CWBIO.BIOC.CWRU.EDU)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: deleting a post. How?
Organization: AS&M Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:10:28 GMT

In article <2227@unet.UUCP> maine@maine.net.com (Dennis J. W. Maine) writes:

   occassionally people ask me how to delete their posting that has
   already been made because it is out-of-date or incorrect. 

   I don't know if it's possible.

   How do you delete an existing posting?

With a Cancel control message.  RTFM to see if your newsreader
supports Cancels, since various newsreaders use different commands if
they do it at all.  If TFM doesn't help, ask your newsadmin for help,
then post again, taking the trouble to tell us what kind of system and
newsreader you're using.
--
J Lee Jaap <jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23665-5225
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jjohnson@ccscola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Jeffrey H. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Script for extracting messages (rn solution)
Organization: NCR CCSD Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:04:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.164457.18789@ncar.ucar.edu> lefevre@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Franck Lefevre) writes:
> I'm looking for a (UNIX) script which automatically extracts one or several
>messages from a given newsgroup and saves them into a file. 
>
>                                 Thanks in advance,
>                                                       Franck

Once in the newsgroup, use ###-###s<filename> to save a range of articles, or
/<regexp>/s<filename> to save all articles matching a particular string.
If you want to do this consistently, the /<regexp>/s<filename> can be added
to your kill file for that group.  The articles won't be junked, just saved.
If you don't want the header information to be saved with the articles, replace
's' with 'w' in the previous commands.

Jeff
--
Jeffrey H. Johnson
jjohnson@ccscola.columbiasc.ncr.com

		"More human than human is our motto."
			-- Dr. Eldon Tyrell