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From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: Mac II differences
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 05:08:40 GMT
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco

In article <1992Aug19.232232.21312@math.ucla.edu> dchopp@vicente.math.ucla.edu (David Chopp) writes:
>I may be the only one that's confused, but could someone please tell me,
>very roughly, what the difference is between all the Mac II's.  So far I've
>seen IIx, IIfx, IIcx, IIci, IIsi, and now IIvx, IIvi.  Is there some
>hierarchy of capabilities and compatibility?  I don't really want a
>detailed analysis, just a rough idea of how they compare.  Thanks...

Hmm, lemme think.  This is all from memory, but here goes:

		CPU	Speed	Coproc-		Int
Machine		68xxx	(MHz)	essor?	Slots	mike?

II		020	16	yes	6	no
IIx		030	16	yes	6	no
IIvi		030	16	no	3	yes
IIcx		030	20	yes	3	no
IIsi		030	20	no	1	yes
IIci		030	25	yes	3	no
IIvx		030	32	yes	3	yes
IIfx		030	33	yes	6	no

Now where did I go wrong?  ;)

     << Brian >>

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From: paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: VideoDigitizing and 24-bit Display-Together?
Date: 10 Aug 92 17:26:40 GMT
Organization: Taniwha Systems Design

In article <1992Aug7.210443.15078@fccc.edu> hardy@mighty.facs.fccc.edu (Randy Hardy) writes:
>Any one-board PDS-slot solution to give video-digitizing (like the
>Video-Spigot) AND 16- or 24- bit color display?  This is for an LC (or Si)
>which only has one slot...

There's not enough power/space inside an 'LC for this .... SuperMac sells
a 'VideoSpigot Pro' which consists of a 'Spigot, an 8*24 PDQ 24-bit card and
a single slot adaptor to fit both in an 'SI's slot.

Disclaimer: As always - I'm a SuperMac employee and I'm probably biased, check
it out for yourself at your local computer store .....

	Paul Campbell
-- 
Paul Campbell    UUCP: ..!mtxinu!taniwha!paul     AppleLink: CAMPBELL.P

	"'Potato', not 'Potatoe'"
		Bart Simpson - on the blackboard 6/25/92
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ronaldw@sco.COM (ronald wong)
Subject: Re: SCSI id change for 40m Connor Internal?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:03:28 GMT


In article <12AUG199217480803@vax2.concordia.ca> dohle@vax2.concordia.ca (Gordon Dohle) writes:
>
>Could anyone help me with how to change the scsi
>id for a 40m (Apple=0) Connor? I want to use it
>as an external.
>On the controller, there are 6 pins labelled
>E1 to E4 (eight pins, actually). Do I jump them?
>or... on the front end where the LED goes, there
>are 9 pins. Is that where the jumpers go?
>
>Thnks for any help
>
>
>Gordon
>Dohle@vax2.Concordia.ca

Gordon,

I assume you're talking about the CP-3040 (or something like that, I
don't have the drive with me -- it's at home).  Presumably from a IIsi,
low powered 3.5" drive.   If it is, don't use the pins on front --- I
thought it was for changing the SCSI and wound up frying the drive 
beyond repair (according to a disk drive repair shop).  It didn't happen
immediately, only after trying to spin the drive up several times.

Use the E1 to E4 jumper pins.

Also note that this drive is internally terminated.

- Ron Wong


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cline@cs.scarolina.edu (Ernest Cline)
Subject: Re: What to do with 256K SIMMS?
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:06:29 GMT

ddl683@csc.albany.edu (Dreaming) writes:

> par@nwu.edu (Pete Rodriguez) wrote:

>> Are 256K SIMMS good for anything?  I've got 10 of these things just
>> collecting dust in a closet.  Can anyone think of anything to do with these
>> things?

>They make great-looking keychains.

About 20 years ago my sister made a great looking Xmas wreath out of
discarded punch cards, tape, and gold paint. So it appears that arts and
crafts is the appropriate way to deal with obsolescent or worn out
computer junk.

Ernest Cline
From: baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Brian Altman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: need advice on Mac IIsi simm upgrade
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:33:04 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

eafu039@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wayne Chen) writes:
The IIsi is only capable with the following configuration.
 
2/3/5/9/17 megs.  You can't mix simms in the same bank or leave them empty.

<me> Don't forget the 16 meg SIMMs. Some _do_ fit. Gives you a total of 65.

<me> -Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: c90davby@odalix.ida.liu.se (David C Byers)
Subject: Building ADB hardware
Summary: Need help on how to build a simple ADB device.
Keywords: ADB, building, apple desktop bus
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:11:28 GMT

I am considering building a simple input device for the Macintosh, and
thought it would be nice to have it connected to the Apple Desktop
Bus. The device will provide a maximum of eight bits of data which it
receives from mechanical switches. The device does not need any
initialization, nor does it receive any data from the computer.

The part the troubles me is the interface to the ADB bus. If sombody
thinks they can help me, either with pointers to articles or books,
with handy tips or even with schematics for something similar, I would
really appreciate it.

If i finish this project, I will post the results to the net,
including software and hardware schematics.

--
David Byers                             Ryds Alle' 9:204
byers@lysator.liu.se                    S-58251 Linkoping
c90davby@und.ida.liu.se                 SWEDEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Subject: PowerBook 140 -- little plastic door busted
Followup-To: poster
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:18:31 GMT

Has anyone succeeded in replacing (or repairing) the little
plastic door which covers the connectors on the back of the PB?

One of the little hinge pins sheared off mine.

Does anybody know what to do about this?
(Reply to me, and I'll post a summary if need be.  Thanks.)

Ollie Jones oj@pictel.com
From: rte@mc.duke.edu (Robert Engelhardt -- gaj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: MacProducts V.32bis modem, and IIsi adapter.
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:07:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


  Since no one has posted a follow up on the modem:

Does anybody have experience with the MacProducts Magic
V.32bis modem, (both with and without fax versions)?

Does anybody have any experience with their Magic
Dual Slot Adapter Card w/FPU for the Mac IIsi?
At $99, it is by far the cheapest dual slot adapter
card I`ve seen advertised.

If you have experience with either of these, please
let me know, or better yet, the net know. I am
sure there are others interested out there (e.g. all
of us new Mac IIsi owners :^) ).

-Robert
-- 
Robert T. Engelhardt:  	|...We were once so close to heaven
Duke University	 	|Peter came out and gave us medals
Department of Physics	|Declaring us the nicest of the damned...
Grad. Stud. in MRI     	|			-TMBG
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: .. W A I T ... Don't toss those 256K S I M M S !!!
Keywords: 256K simms can be used
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:13:53 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.150024.16906@sherpa.uucp> david@sherpa.uucp (Dave Quarles) writes:
>>tWe here at St. Petersburg Junior College have 2 meg SE's for the faculty
>>that have 2 slots empty that could use 2-256K SIMMS to add enough ram
>>for them to use Multifinder.  Believe it or not .5 meg makes a difference !!

>Couldn't get there via email- don't forget that you cannot mix SIMM sizes
>within the same bank.

    This is true, but in the SE, which is the machine he is talking
about upgrading, SIMMs are arranged in banks of two, not 4. That is why
you can have 2.5 MB in an SE.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
		   "A clear case of curare poisoning
	       of one of her Majesty's Cold-Cream Guards"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
From: app@shamash.cdc.com ( GSD Advanced Packing/Processes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: powerbook100 by mail - missed the article
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:10:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN

>>>In article <1992Aug12.194635.13380@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, mzajac@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Stephen Zajac) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone please send the telephone # of the Price Club that
>>>> will sell them through the mail?
>>>
>>>The Price Club does not do mail order.
>>
News to me, I just ordered one from San Jose Price Club over the phone
from Minnesota and I could swear that the box came with a Price Club
Delivery label. 
I talked to a Dave (Binley?) in their Delivery department, very
friendly and helpful. Phone number was 408-481-0804.  This based on
the previous note from Rich Kaplan in Rochester MN who accomplished
the same thing. Thing did come COD, which has it's own quirks but it
definitely is a Powerbook 100.
Steve Axdal
Computing Devices International
app@shamash.cdc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.laptops
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: How much should I offer for a Mac Portable?
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 05:26:01 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

Unfortunately, my new LC is not at all portable and a notebook is *way* out
of my price range.  But, I need a Mac that travels!  So, I may be looking
for a Mac Portable in the near future.  How much do you think I should offer
for, say, 2/20Mb (assuming this is the minimum config with HD-please 
correct me).  Modem, if possible with the Portable, not incl.  Minimum
of anything else possible with this computer.  Who knows lots about Portables
and can tell me a little bit about them?  This is 68000 7Mhz, right? with no
expanability and 1 3.5 800K I assume?  

I would offer under $1000.  Is this stupidly over- or under-estimated?  About
how old would the newest one be?  Thanks for any info!

	-Kristen 

k_lepa@unhh.unh.edu    or
kal@kepler.unh.edu

From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: OCEAN 256 MB optical: experiences?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:46:38 -0500

to: steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman) Newsgroups:
  
Re: your search for info on OCEAN 256meg MO drives
 
I'm also in the market and will be interested in what you find.
From: adasal@netcom.com (Salvatore Collora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Printers
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:58:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I hope this is posted to the correct group.  I need to attach a serial 
printer to a Macintosh, and need it to print from Word, Excel, etc.
Is there any sort of hardware product or software for that matter that will
allow this to happen.  I did manage to get a program called Serial Printer
but I can't get it to work.  It will print any text file, and it also 
prints the text portion of the clipboard, but I haven't been able to get it
to work...

Sal...

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
From: ajkim@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Al The KeyMaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: PowerBook Data Buses...?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:16:22 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Thank for the response about the Powerbook data buses...

If the data bus is truly 32-bit, then wouldn't it make sense that a 
PB145 running a 68030 at 25-Mhz is faster than a IIsi and SE/30 (20Mhz
and 16 Mhz respectively).  (disregarding the screen refresh rate, of 
course).
 Any responses would be appreciated at my e-mail address....

Thanks!

P.S.  also, a PB145 would almost be as fast as a IIci (minus the math 
coprocessor), wouldn't it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pjharris@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: LC II/12"RGB problem, kinda, maybe, sorta...
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:59:40 GMT

Last night after about 4 hours of using my brand-new LC II with 12"
RGB, the monitor flickered once, then the interlace went to hell.  I checked
to see if the vents were blocked on the monitor...nope...on the Mac...nope...
checked to see if I was hallucinating...no, well, okay nope.  I pulled the VRAM
and reseated it, unplugged it all, moved it and replugged, checked for shorts
on the motherboard, checked for loose pins in the connector...I even measured
the voltage on the house! (well, apartment..)

Now the strangeness...this morning it works as if it never looked like a 1971
Zenith console TV with a shot PLL.  My beautiful color screen is back, my
question is if this is a common occurence with LC/LC II/12"RGB combos?
Should I take one or both of the components back?  Should I haul them to work
and connect the monitor to my IIFX and my Pivot to the LCII?  Or would a
kilo of C5 in the floppy drive be appropriate?  Any help appreciated from
you "Mac Gurus" out there.  Thanks.

Patrick Harris
pjharris@galluj.gallaudet.edu

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:15566 comp.sys.mac.misc:15111
From: gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quadra graphics acceleration??
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:19:03 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

We're getting ready to purchase a Quadra 950 for use as a multimedia
station in our lab on campus, and we're wondering if anyone has any
suggestions concerning graphics accelerators for the Q 950.  My boss
is planning on buying the Apple 16" monitor and we'd like to have
24-bit video with fast redraws for use with demonstrations and
displaying/creating QuickTime movies.

Any suggestions would be helpful.  E-mail responses are preferred, but
posts work too.

Thanks!

Scott
--
Disclaimer: My opinions don't necessarily reflect those of my school or
my employer, but it's great when they do.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hy7919@thor.albany.edu (HONG-HSEE YUAN)
Subject: Re: Installing 4MEG SIMMS on LC
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:12:32 GMT

>> I've looked inside my LC and it looks just like a simple job of uncliping the
>> clasps, taking out my 2 old 1 meg SIMMS and adding new ones.

       "Intuition is everything". You got the right one. AHA!
But be careful to take old ones out. make sure you know what you are doing!
Good Luck!
From: brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Pioneer Videodisc player *driver* for Macs.
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:37:49 GMT


      Anyone have XCMDs for a Pioneer LDV 2200?  I've got a team
   working on a project that is about to switch from the Sony players
   to Pioneers ... and we've not found the drivers yet.

      Please respond directly - my Usenet access is kaflooie!

      andrew.  (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: awmin@athena.mit.edu (Art Min)
Subject: Comments on 3rd Party Keyboards - Mac 101E, etc.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:02:05 GMT

Hello, I'm thinking of getting an "extended" keyboard.

I'm deciding between the Mac-101E and MacPro Plus

If anybody has either, please give me a review. I'm leaning
towards the 101E cause it gives you a discount on quickeys.

But I'm concerned about the click noise it makes.

Thanks for any info.


Art 
awmin@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: New IIvx and IIvi...why on EARTH 16mhz? 
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<11437294.61.714214282@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:40:37 GMT

NW> == NATHAN WHEAT <11437294@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 

> "When I was young we got our first color TV set and our neighbor kids got
>jealous 'cause their parents wouldn't buy one. So the parents put red green 
>and blue celophane on it and called it color...now they have Windows 3.1"

 NW> What do you think the diff is between Windows (face for DOS) and
 NW> the MacOS ( face for God-knows-what)?

 NW> PS:  Not a flame, a question.

What's the difference between someone wearing a <famous person> facemask,
and <famous person>?

Might it have something to do with the fact that <famous person> really
*is* <famous person> through and through, rather than being a pallid
imitation, lacking whatever skills, talents, ability, or whatever made
<famous person> famous?

If I disguised myself as Michael Jordan, I still wouldn't be able to
slam-dunk a basketball in an NBA basket.  If I let my beard grow out
more and dyed my hair so I'd look something like Eric Clapton I still
wouldn't be able to play guitar worth a damn.

If I slap a garish color face on DOS it still has 8.3 filenames and
"Abort, Retry, Ignore?" lurking inside.
--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
From: dohle@vax2.concordia.ca (Gordon Dohle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: INFO ON LEASING MACs
Keywords: mac,lease
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:47:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug11.145308.8117@nrtpa038.bnr.ca>, Stephanie Lyon writes...
>Greetings everyone!
> 
>Does anyone have any information on leasing plans or 
>lease - to - buy plans? I would like to purchase a IIci
>/IIfx/Quadra but haven't the $$$$. (Sigh) Am looking for 
>names of leasing shops. (or other method of getting
>computer!) Any knowledge/experiences/suggestions
>would be of great assistance....


The only one I have seen is RealTech, who advertise in
great gobs of pages in MacUser. (actually there may be
others in the back pages.


Gordon
Dohle@vax2.Concordia.ca
























> 
>Thanks in advance! 
> 
>Steph
> 
>(Sorry, no email address available)
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From: eafu039@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wayne Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Enough of Re: Disadvantages of System 7 (Was: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?)
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:03:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Hey guys I am very sorry that this has turned into a debating issue.  I hope this 7 over 6 or 6 over 7 thing will end here for the nets sake!

To clear one thing up, I never did say that there is a disadvantage of choosing system 7 over system 6.  Althought I did point out that there is a disadvantage of the new machine not giving a choice to choose between 6 or 7 like the IIsi or the IIci, and that this "MAY be a disadvange for SOME people."  Please read my post right.
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple's New Prices
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:08:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Murasami Labs

In article <1992Aug19.223839.19539@athena.mit.edu>, sullivan@athena.mit.edu
(Jason R Sullivan) wrote:
> 
> My new school price list shows the price of the Quadra 950 increasing
> from $5155 to $5710.  Can anyone confirm this!  And if so, why?

Uh, how's this math: Apple<>MIT ??? Like most resellers, the final 
price is up to the seller, not Apple. It may be Apple's doing, but
I would suspect MIT first. 

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Subject: Re: Mac II differences
Originator: tai50080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu
Organization: {not speaking for the} University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:09:11 GMT

bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:

> In article <1992Aug19.232232.21312@math.ucla.edu> dchopp@vicente.math.ucla.edu (David Chopp) writes:
> >I may be the only one that's confused, but could someone please tell me,
> >very roughly, what the difference is between all the Mac II's.  So far I've
> >seen IIx, IIfx, IIcx, IIci, IIsi, and now IIvx, IIvi.  Is there some
> >hierarchy of capabilities and compatibility?  I don't really want a
> >detailed analysis, just a rough idea of how they compare.  Thanks...

> Hmm, lemme think.  This is all from memory, but here goes:

> 		CPU	Speed	Coproc-		Int
> Machine	68xxx	(MHz)	essor?	Slots	mike?

> II		020	16	yes	6	no
Are you sure it was this fast?
> IIx		030	16	yes	6	no
> IIvi		030	16	no	3	yes
> IIcx		030	20	yes	3	no
I'm just about postitive the IIcx was 16 MHz.  I remember the IIx, the
IIcx, and the SE/30 were just about the same machine (except the bus).
> IIsi		030	20	no	1	yes
> IIci		030	25	yes	3	no
> IIvx		030	32	yes	3	yes
> IIfx		030	33	yes	6	no

> Now where did I go wrong?  ;)

>      << Brian >>

> -- 
> _/_/_/       Brian Kendig  Macintosh Jedi           Live never to be ashamed
>  _/_/   Starfleet Captain  Oracle Employee         if anything you do or say
>   _/  Intrepid Adventurer  Saturn SL2 Owner    is published around the world
>       bskendig@netcom.com  Twin Peaks Junkie    -- even if what is published
>     Princeton '92! BSE/CS  Writer/Actor/Singer                   is not true.
-- 
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  I speak for myself, and not for the State or University of Illinois.
  "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -- Edward R. Murrow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlopez@shearson.com (David Lopez)
Subject: Apple 13" monitors
Reply-To: dlopez@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:24:32 GMT


i was just looking around at apple computer prices with a friend today
pricing the mac lc2 - no flames please!! - as well as any color monitors
that go with it. i told her that she should get an apple 13" or a sony 13"
or possibly a clone trinitron 13" if she can get it, since these seem to
be the best and the most flexible.

to make a long story short we asked several stores that sold apple
equipment or just PC's about the price of an apple 13" color monitor
or a sony multisync 13" color monitor and the quoted price was about $300!
could this be true? have prices for color monitors come down this far or
do i have to look at any fine print ( so to speak ) to discover the catch?
i asked one dealer what sony model they quoted the price on me and was told
it was the 1303.

any comments from the net?

by the way the city is new york and the area is near macy's - a&s plaza if
anyone is interested.

dave
dlopez@shearson.com