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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re:  Another Movie to ID
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:27:40 GMT

In article <BznA2G.5Jz@ais.org>, ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
> I have no idea if this movie was ever released in the US, but 
> I'd like to find it on video if possible.  The movie starred 
> Michael Pare (I think Malcom Mcdowell was in it as well) and 
> was based on some prison planet where Pare went undercover 
> or something like that.  Anyway, the working title was 
> "Moon 44" and many of the actors playing prisoners were 
> American soldiers (in real life).  It was shot in Germany 
> around 1988.  My interest is due to the fact that I did 
> some voice-over work for the film and would like to see 
> how it finally came out (my hopes aren't too high ;).  
> Any info would be appreciated.  Reply by email or post it here. 
> Thanks.

"Moon 44" has been shown many times in recent months on Cinemax.
I confess that I have not watched the entire film, but I did see a few scenes
with strange helicopters flying through canyons.  This was late at night while
I was reading, and the sound was off to avoid waking the children, so I
probably didn't hear your voice-overs.  Sorry.

Joel

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From: noj@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jonathan E Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Highlander Book?
Date: 25 Dec 1992 22:18:52 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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I'm sure that this is a FAQ of some sort, but it's not on the FAQL, so I'll
post it....Is there a book that the movie Highlander is adapted from?..If so,
What is the title, author, and a good place to find it?

Reply via email to noj@matt.ksu.ksu.edu


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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Subject: alien 4 - not stop-motion
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:09:16 EST

RW>Sorry for butting in, Lazlo, but...

RW>Could you please post me a message with the address of Cinefex? I've
RW>never seen the magazine, & as I'm extremely interested in s f/x
RW>techniques (from mattes to make-up to computer), I wouldn't mind to get
RW>hold of a professional magazine at last...

You can get Cinefex at the Silver Snail or Dragon Lady on Queen St W
in Toronto...

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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: space rangers
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 3 Jan 93 02:23:17 EST

Howdy Everybody!

I've just seen a short trailer for Space Rangers on TV. For those
living in the greater Toronto area: it's coming on Wednesday
(January 6) on channel 11 (CHCH - Ind - Hamilton) at 8:00 PM.

As to the show: judging from the ad, which was incredibly short &
composed of half second takes, it's going to be a cheapy with some
pretty good special f/x. Those who've watched this channel before will
know the "quality" CHCH provides (movies shot directly onto video with
the worst actors in the ENTIRE Galaxy...), but there's always some
hope.

The trailer showed a few space-battle scenes (very good, but couldn't
determine if the ships were models or computer graphics - in any case,
REALLY nice), a deliciously slimy-bony monster (a'la Alien with wings),
some very cheap looking interior & equipment, a few unknown actors who
didn't seem to be worth knowing, & a couple of homevideo-quality outer
scenes. That's about all I remember.

In all, at least we'll have one more s/f shows with plenty of starlit
sky - still better than our previous poverty of good ol' style space
operas...

I hear Deep Space 9 is something to watch out for, starting in the
greater Toronto area on Tuesday (January 5) at 8:00 PM on channel 29
(Fox - Ind - Buffalo).

If you go into a video store, take your chance with three movies:
- Robotjox
- Gyver
- Prototype.
They're all B rated movies, so don't expect much acting or story (short
of Robotjox, which holds up in both respects), but the special f/x are
of prime quality.

Take care you all, & I wish all of you a very Healthy, Wealthy, Happy
New Year

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From: chavel@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Chris Havel)
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Subject: Re: Jurassic Park - DNA in blood?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 17:25:27 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au (Cameron Newham) writes:


>In article <1517@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> sch@oasis.icl.co.uk writes:

> > ...
> > [Jurassic Park.]
> > 
> > had been found which still contained the blood of some dinosaur, and how they
> > manage to extract the DNA.

>I have been told that blood is one of the few things that doesn't contain
>DNA.  Anyone care to comment on this?

>Apart from that, the idea behind JP is certainly valid - rather scary too.

>(you could get around this problem by supposing that in penetrating the
>dinosaurs skin the mossi picked up some tissue cells as well)

Right. Red blood cells don't divide ... no DNA there! Assuming scraps of muscles tissue, arterial wall, anything that is capable of cell growth...is needed to get even a portion of the critter's DNA.
From: jwells@netcom.com (Court Jester)
Subject: Re: moontrap
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:43:38 GMT

"robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com> writes:

>     Moontrap, children, is made in 1989, & the best argument for
>dropping a mid-sized nuke on Hollywood (on a midsummer day at noon).
>Have you ever wondered why there're so many movies that just CAN'T
>combine ad 1) a good storyline, ad 2) good SF/X, and ad 3) some basic
>scientific logic?

 [Details Spared]

I agree on that one robert! When the movie came into the video store a
long time ago, I read the back and thought it had some pretty good po-
tential as a sci-fi flick. As a trekker, I was interested to see Walter
Koenig in a new role.

But I was poorly disappointed. The thing that still stands out in my
mind is how Koenig's script had him swearing quite often, but when the
words came out of his mouth, it just wasn't appropriate/believable.

Let's just be thankful they never made a sequel! *shudder*

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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: cinefex
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:59:09 EST

Anybody interested in special F/X ?

A few days ago there was a magazine mentioned here about special f/x,
called Cinefex. I've just bought a few copies of it, & it looks like
the best publication in its kind!

It's format is rather small, 22 x 20 cm, 100 pages average, & if you
want something flashy, with lots of gossip about actors, actresses &
directors, you'd better settle for Starlog.

If, however, you seek a very professional paper, that talks ONLY
about how specific special f/x were made in various movies, & does it
with PLENTY of details and "insider" info, this mag is for you.
Cinefex also has a lot of pictures that are strictly related to the
articles and, more importantly, a WEALTH of pro advertisement,
ranging from f/x studios to special material suppliers (invisible
wire, pyro gel, motion control systems, make-up, fog-generator, etc.
etc. etc). Their address is:

Cinefex, P.O.Box 20027, Riverside, CA 92516

In Toronto they're available at several comic stores, such as
Silversnail (see in the Yellow Pages). BTW, in that store I also
managed to get seduced by a Star Wars Sourcebook - complete
description of all weapons, spaceships, equipment, races, etc!
Not too cheap, though...

For those who've long been aware of all this, I'm sorry for taking
your time, but I'm completely ignorant about such sources, & figured
there might be some other guys & girls outthere in the same
situation...

Take care

Robert
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: moontrap
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 26 Dec 92 15:59:21 EST

Hi David!

I wouldn't hurt Michigan! But all those movie-"pro's" came from
Hollywood, & went back there to make more disaster... So my proposal is
still valid. Ok, I'm willing to settle for 2 tons of plastic if you
really press me, but that's the last offer!

Take care

Robert
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: "moon 44" (was re: anothe
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:43:15 EST

Thanks for your reply, SDR57@CAS ORG () !

I read that sheet of "frequently asked questions" the other day, but I
can't remember reading these details. Well, after 26 your artificial
visual image-intensifiers start going blank, I guess... (g)

Again, thanks for the info. BTW, I loved your story about your advice in
the Air Force! Hm, so it's not consistent with the traditions of the
Force - I just wonder, is praying considered a demoralizing act? How are
they gonna punish you if you're unsuccessful with breathing...?

Take care & wish you a Very Happy New Year

Robert
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From: kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.sf.movies Frequently Asked Questions
Keywords: monthly
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 18:52:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.223641.3038@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
|> Archive-name: sf-movies-faq

|> 14. In OUTLAND and TOTAL RECALL, astronauts exposed to vacuum
|>     promptly explode.  In 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, a few seconds' exposure
|>     to vacuum doesn't bother one at all.  Which is right?
|> 
|> This hasn't occurred in real life, but there have been experiments where
|> animals, or parts of a person's body, were exposed to vacuum; these
|> experiments happened before any of these films were made.  2001 was right;
|> OUTLAND and TOTAL RECALL ignored the known facts.  A full discussion of
|> this can be found in the sci.space FAQL.  (Discussions of whether TOTAL
|> RECALL is a dream or not are not pertinent to the question of vacuum, but
|> since the film is often mentioned in this context, it is included here.)
|> 

There were Nazi experiments done on concentration camp inmates to
determine the effect of vacuum on humans.  They died (no explosions).
Photographs exist, if not film (I've seen the photos).
From: G.Coulter@Daresbury.AC.UK (G. Coulter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Cinefex in UK?
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:54:35 GMT
Reply-To: G.Coulter@Daresbury.AC.UK
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

I am very  interested in special  effect in motion pictures and have
heard of a magazine  called Cinefex, that is all about  this sort of
thing. Can someone out there please let me know where I can get this
from in the UK or maybe  the address of the publisher so  that I can
write  to  then and  maybe get  copies posted to me  via  airmail or 
something.

Thanks for Anyhelp ... -Gary-
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From: jwalters@stsci.edu (Jim Walters)
Subject: Re: Terminator
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:27:38 GMT

In article <9212232324.AA18444@rutgers.edu>, DCHANG@uhccmvs.BITNET (Doreen Chang) writes:
> Does anyone know where the idea for the "Terminator" movies originated?
> Several video guides cite James Cameron as the author of the screenplay but
> Leonard Maltin's guide claims that the original was based on a Harlan
> Ellison short story.  Does anyone know of such a short story?  If so, what
> was the title and in what anthology might I be most likely to locate it?
> Better yet, any chance of loading it into ASCII or is that a copyright
> violation?  If so, forget I asked that last part...  Thanks to whoever
> can assist.
>                                          dchang@uhccmvs.bitnet

I'm not aware of any Harlan Ellison story which can directly translated
into "Terminator", but he has written two stories with themes related to
"Terminator".  One, called "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" is about a
defense computer called AM which became intelligent and started a nuclear
war.  AM then spends it time tormenting the handfull of survivors.  It can
be found in _Alone Against Tomorrow_.  The other is an _Outer Limits_
episode called "Soldier".  I haven't seen it since the 70's, but it
involved soldiers from the future time traveling to the 1960's. 

I imagine that James Cameron was simply covering his rear by giving Harlan
Ellison an acknowledgement in the credits for "Terminator".  After all,
H.E. had recently won a copyright infringement suit against ABC (?) because
he convinced a jury that the series _Future Cop_ was too close to his short
story "Brillo". 
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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: test
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 00:16:55 PST

endaround

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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Trek VII ?!?!?!
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:46:28 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <C03686.1pI@idm.com> elr@idm.com (Eric L Reiner) writes:

>Has anybody heard about Star Trek 7 - the movie?  A local TV station
>has been broadcasting an anouncement about a Star Trek convention on
>Jan 4 in Chicago where they will show (amoung other things) previews
>of Star Trek VII.  Is this for real or are they trying to get me to a 
>convention where I will be disappointed.  My understanding was that
>ST VI was it, no more, thats all fokes, etc....  Any information would
>be appreciated.

There are a lot of people who would like to see a Star Trek VII but even
if it was going to happen I doubt they would have anything on film so
soon.

Maybe they have footage from the new TV show Star Trek: Deep Space Nine?

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Subject: Re: Realistic Space Scenes
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:24:03 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

In article <BzGxE5.vs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>i've only ever seen one, and it was in Katsuhiro Otomo's AKIRA.
>
>When Tetsuo flys up and destroys the Sol sattelitte, it is all done in
>complete silence, as it should be.  It is the only movie I've ever seen
>where the filmmaker acknowledges that sound does not travel in a vacuum.

I remember that! I was quite impressed...

Also in "Robot Jox", the battle in space is completely silent. (BTW, RJ is
a must-see for all mecha fans, IMHO.)


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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:54:30 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <962@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, by seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp):
> 	"YOU'RE Terminated, sucker!" -- Sarah Connor, T1

The most inane line of the whole film.  Sounds totally artificial.

> 	"Shit... happens." -- The Predator, P2

That one was good.

> 	(pointing in one direction) "Twenty miles."  (Pointing in the
> 	opposite direction) "Twenty miles." -- Professor Morbius,
> 						"Forbidden Planet"

	"A bomb.  Of course, only a small one.  Ten Kilotons."
		-- the Scientist, in Tarkovsky's Stalker, when asked what
		the 20-centimetre-long metal cylinder is that he has been
		assembling.  (Long time since I've seen that scene, and it
		was in German, but I think it's roughly correct.)
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From: pkwu@is0.is.morgan.com (Peter Wu)
Subject: Re: space rangers
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:11:41 GMT

"robert winkler" (robert.winkler@canrem.com) wrote:
: I've just seen a short trailer for Space Rangers on TV. For those
: living in the greater Toronto area: it's coming on Wednesday
: (January 6) on channel 11 (CHCH - Ind - Hamilton) at 8:00 PM.
: 
: As to the show: judging from the ad, which was incredibly short &
: composed of half second takes, it's going to be a cheapy with some
: pretty good special f/x. Those who've watched this channel before will
: know the "quality" CHCH provides (movies shot directly onto video with
: the worst actors in the ENTIRE Galaxy...), but there's always some
: hope.

Just so you know ... Space Rangers is a CBS series, not a cheap little
syndicated show (star trek withstanding).  This of course doesn't mean
that won't be cheap anyway.

: In all, at least we'll have one more s/f shows with plenty of starlit
: sky - still better than our previous poverty of good ol' style space
: operas...

There is also Time Trax which on paper sounds like Quantum Leap and
there is also Babylon 5 which is suppose to be very similar to Deep
Space Nine, but at the moment it is just going to be a movie, although
the producers want to make it a series.  They are both syndicated.

Also coming is Wild Palms, a mini-series produced by Oliver Stone for
ABC this spring!  Staring James Belushi, Dana Delany and Angie
Dickinson.  And finally there is Seaquest this fall .. crime hunting
under the sea, produced by Spielberg and has a $1 mil/episode budget
and 22 episode commitment from NBC.

I don't know what you'll get to see up in Canada though.  But good
luck.

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From: lev@nsinic.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Subject: Re: moontrap
Organization: NASA Science Internet Network Information Center
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:53:00 GMT
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In article <1992Dec29.024842.8435@ll.mit.edu>, shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes...
>In article <1992Dec26.2756.2620@dosgate> "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com> writes:

	[ . . . ]
>>ad 6) our brilliant ancestors hybernated a lady with beautiful breasts
>>      at the time; when awaken, she picks up her 14000 year old
>>      spacesuit that looks & works like new (yeah, it's not made by
>>      JVC), takes a walk, & then quickly strippes just in time to
>>      copulate with our hero, in a tent that has no grav.chamber, on
>>      the surface of the Moon... (hey, after fourteen thousand years
>>      I'd be in a GREAT hurry too!)

Dammit, where are those women HERE on Earth!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  :-)

>(I did think tent-copulation was a little dangerous, but hormones are hormones)

Can't speak about partial gravity, but don't knock it 'til you try it... :-)

Happy new year, everyone!

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From: brenta@microsoft.com (Brent Aliverti)
Subject: Yet another movie to ID
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:04:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

Yikes...I hope this thread isn't getting to stale, but I've got a couple movies going through my head that I've been trying to remember for years.

The first one, I can just barely remember.  I saw it maybe twelve years ago on 
TV and have wanted to see it again.  I can only remember a couple scenes so 
here goes...  The movie opens up in an orbitting space station.  In it, three 
astronauts are awakened by a computer from a period of suspended animation 
(perhaps several hundred years).  There is some sort of shuttle that they are 
able to take back down to the earth.  There, they find things have changed 
radically, and they find many customs that they have trouble dealing with.  
One of them is the practice of cloning, which has apparently become commonplace.
I beleive some sort of conflict arises regarding this issue, but that's about 
all I can remember.  Sound familiar to anyone?

The second movie, I actually know the title of. I remember seeing a (TV?) movie
version of Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World".  Again, it's been at least ten
years since I've seen this movie, and I don't think I've ever seen it listed 
in the TV section since.  Anyone know the story on this movie?  I don't believe
it has ever been released on video either.

Thanks for any info you have!

Brent
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