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From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: A few questions....
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 15:41:23 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

Hi folks!

I'm new to the world of Waffle, and have a few questions about how to use 
it.  I'm hoping some kind soul will offer a helping hand...

1)  I know of my /public/ directory, and have heard folks mention 
    "FTPing" files.  Is there some way that I can request files from 
    other systems?  

2)  Can I request file directories from other systems?  How?

3)  Is this acceptable?  (i.e., I wouldn't want anyone getting tons
    of files from my system, on my dime).

4)  When FOLLOWing a message, I sometimes want to respond to each of
    their questions or paragraphs, or simply wish to edit a previous line
    in one of my posts or E-mails.  I've only been able to establish two
    commands from WITHIN the editor, namely "/s" to save and queue the 
    message and "/q" to abort the whole thing.  Although I can go to
    the /waffle/spool/ directory, my users can not.  Is there some way 
    for me to get to the Edit> prompt from within the editor?  Or at
    least save the message to my /user directory, and edit it from 
    there?

5)  I run a multiline version of WildCat! BBS.  I'm running Waffle
    as a door.  The documentation suggest that Waffle is not 
    appropriate as a multiline BBS.  (I'm running under DV).   Is
    this so?  Is anyone running multiple concurrent sessions of 
    Waffle... are there any tricks or tips here?

6)  I've heard tell that I can install WWIVEDIT as one of the
    _editors from waffle.  Is this true?  If so, how do I do it?

7)  Since I'm running WildCat, which comes equipt with a utility to
    import/export QWK/REP packets, perhaps it may be best for me to
    use waffle as a transport vehicle, to generate QWK/REP packetsq
    for WildCat.  I've come across WAFMAIL, however this doesn't support
    "network status" mail packets, making it difficult for me to 
    get my messages to/from Wildcat.  Any suggestions here?  Is 
    there an easier way to import/export messages for UUCP to/from
    wildcat?

Thank you so much for your help!


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: spooge@sizone.uucp (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep)
Subject: Re: uucico speed, bad headers
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:27:04 GMT

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:

> Hi wafflers,
>  
> I have been playing around with the bad header problem and the slow
> transfer rate I have been experiencing. Here are the results for
> the MultiTech V32 modem.

I have a GVC v.32bis/v.42bis modem connecting at that rate with my host,
in 7 windows. I get *0* header errors now.

> 1. Make sure your fossil driver (BNU in my case) is set to 9600 not
>    19200.

I switched from 38400 to 19200 cause I forgot to move my 16550 from my
286 to the 486 this thing now runs on. (Lazyness has prevented its move
since.) 19,200 is fine with BNU for me with an 8450 UART.

> 2. Make sure you have uu.window set to "3" not the default 7

3 gets me about 900cps on news instead of 1150.

> 3. Make sure you have uu.fossil set up in static

truth.

> 4. If you like me have multi lines and your uucico line is set to
>    a higher speed than the static "Speed:" line and you have NOT
>    set your fossil to 9600 make sure you set poll.bat to uucico 
>    -s9600 (and -t60 to stop the time outs)

I dont know what you mean really, but I call other "2400 baud" systems
with the modem<>computer rate "set" to 9600 but the fossil locked at
19200. Doesnt really make a diff any way you do it.

> I now have 934cps during transfer instead of 500cps. V42 is on and
> so is MNP, flow control is rts/cts

I have the exact same except I get 1150 for news and around 1500-2000
for mail. :)

/kc

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From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: From NOBODY
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:32:59 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:
>
> > Is anybody using 1.64 that uses rmail from the command line? Does it
> > work the same way as 1.65?
> 
> What I can't figure is why anyone's still using 1.64...

I'll tell you why...  The update instructions are lousy.

If a 1.64er has been running his board for a while, they will have
undoubtedly customized many menus, help files, \waffle\extern\* files,
etc...  The 1.65's "update.doc" does not give clear instructions; hence,
a cautious 1.64er who's used to running their system reasonably
smoothly, will take their time and not rush into 1.65.

Example... Look at UPDATE.DOC under "IMPORTANT... 1."

It says to run CONVPW.   What it should say FIRST is, "Unzip the
CONVPW.EXE program from the archive ONLY, 'pkunzip -d waf165
convpw.exe', so that you don't overwite your existing PASSWORD file!"
(or... it should have said to rename your old PASSWORD file to
PASSWORD.164 first!)

The problem with UPDATE.DOC is that it assumes that the user has already
unzipped the archive, and has already made COPIES or RENAMED some of the
vital 1.64 files.   I renamed many of my files with a .164 extension,
before I unzipped waf165.  I am glad I did; I would have lost the
PASSWORD file, my \waffle\extern\* files... etc.

A 1.65 update is not possible with just following the steps in
UPDATE.DOC sequentially.


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From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: From NOBODY
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:07:59 GMT
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> It says to run CONVPW.   What it should say FIRST is, "Unzip the
> CONVPW.EXE program from the archive ONLY, 'pkunzip -d waf165
> convpw.exe', so that you don't overwite your existing PASSWORD file!"
> (or... it should have said to rename your old PASSWORD file to
> PASSWORD.164 first!)
> 
> The problem with UPDATE.DOC is that it assumes that the user has already
> unzipped the archive, and has already made COPIES or RENAMED some of the
> vital 1.64 files.   I renamed many of my files with a .164 extension,
> before I unzipped waf165.  I am glad I did; I would have lost the
> PASSWORD file, my \waffle\extern\* files... etc.


I had no problem, I just did pkunzip -d waf165.zip c:\temp

I do that every time I get a new version of something. Extract it to a
temporary directory. In the case of Waffle, I found it worth the trouble of
manually dealing with the subdirectories..

Set it all up somewhere temporary, then move it over when you're finished.
It's a defensive computing practice that really makes lots of sense.



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
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From: mtbb136@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: A Neophyte's Questions
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:34:30 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

1.  I have set up a schedule file, but don't know how to get it to
    automatically execute.  I have tried running "waffle.exe" and let
    it sit there as time passes through jobs that I want executed at
    a particular time.  Any ideas?

2.  I want to leave my computer and modem on all the time so that it
    can call out (see above question) and transfer mail, however I do
    not want it to answer the phone.  Can I set something in the static
    file so that my modem is not set to autoanswer?

3.  Instead of seeing the window "Awaiting Call...."  is there a way that
    waffle will continuously display the number of message or unread
    messages for each of the users on my system?  A few of my family
    members don't receive much mail so they don't want to have to login
    each time they want to check.

4.  Is there a way that I can get registered in some sort of map file so
    that people can send me mail at johnr@agnostic.uucp instead of my
    current agnostic!johnr@ms.uky.edu?   Assuming someone else is not
    using the name agnostic, of course.

If you can answer one, a few, or all of these questions I would really
appreciate it.  Thus far I really enjoy waffle.  Thanks!

John

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From: mlewis@wplace (Mark Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses (was Re: Splash File)
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:31:42 GMT
Reply-To: wplace!mlewis@cssnet.UUCP
Organization: The Waffle House, Waldo's Place USA


stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
> In article <NV4DVB3w165w@wplace.UUCP> wplace!mlewis@cssnet.UUCP writes:
> >i take it then that
> >       wplace!mlewis@cssnet.uucp
> >is as illegal as
> >
> >       mlewis%wplace@cssnet.uucp or mlewis%wplace%cssnet@wolves.etc.etc
>
> Yes, both are just as (not) illegal. Assuming, of course, that you
> didn't mean to put wolves in the .etc domain. 

actually, i didn't mean that wolves was in the .etc domain... i didn't 
know there was a .etc domain... what i was attempting to show was the 
multiple % hacks...

mlewis%wplace@cssnet.uucp
mlewis%wplace%cssnet@wolves.<whatever>
mlewis%wplace%cssnet%wolves@duke.duke.edu (or whatever it is)

do these all resolve to the same destination?? the only difference 
between the last one and the bangpath i used to post is the % hacks 
have replaced the !'s and everything is reversed -=B-)

>                                               And that cssnet knows the 
> name "wplace" as being local, uucp. And that wolves knows that cssnet is 
> local, uucp.

yes, that is true for the situation here...

> >i've read several articles that have said the % hacks are to be avoided
> >as well.... what's the scoop???
>
> If you can avoid them, do. If you can't, then you can't.

<<GRIN>>... sounds almost like the way most things are done anyway -=B-)

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From: morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: LIMIT command line arg
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:59:29 EST
Organization: No Pity For The Majority!  [private]


Is there a way to make the "limit" arg on the command line secondary to the
user's existing limit?  If that's not too clear (probably not), here's an
example:

Binkleyterm running as front-end passes "time till next event" to batch
batch which calls waffle with this # as limit, but then the user gets that
many minutes left.  This is a bit too literal, since if a user were to log
on at, say, 10 am, he or she would have about 14 hours of time!  Now, I
don't really have a problem with this now, but would like to close that
hole...  It'd be great if possibly a new word like "maxtime" or somesuch
were implemented where waffle would allow the user the lesser of their time
left or the time specified...  so if there are 4 hours until the next
Binkley event, waffle gets called like "Waffle online 14400 maxtime 240", but
the user has 35 minutes left, the 35 is used, but if there were 10 minutes
until the next event, the 10 would be used..



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From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: parser for admin/mail
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:09:50 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> xyzzy@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker) writes:
> > Does a parser exist for the waffle/admin/mail file? I'm looking for a progr
> > that takes that file and produces some kind of meaningful output, perhaps...

> Oh, get real.  I've no sympathy at all for so-called sysadmins who query
> for help, but don't even bother to read.  What makes you so stinkin' special?

Hello Willard,

Hey...  :(  don't be so hard on the guy.  It would have been easier to just
say "use STATS.exe".

I guess I can relate to "xyzzy".  Since all the information is split-up
into multiple files, it can be hard to know which one to look in.  Besides,
I often waste a lot of time looking for something in the *wrong* manual;
case in point: USER.DOC, and MANUAL.DOC.

New Wafflers are not as familiar with the *.DOCs as you are, and
finding information can be a lengthy and daunting task.

Another example: just yesterday I was getting strange junk on my screen
right after a login. It looked like Waffle was executing commands that I
did not write, and I did not understand what was causing it.  A search
for "script" thu all the .DOCs produced nothing useful.  Eventually I
figured it out (without the manuals); I was saving com.bbs.waffle
messages with "write waffle".  It turns out that Waffle will try to
execute the contents of a file by that name!  Another Waffler confirmed
this and pointed me to the "end of the USER.DOC file".  The END of the
file! great... the FIRST place any normal person would look for such
information. (sarcastic)

So... I RTFM's, but the FM's leave a lot to be desired.


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From: william@cithara.login.qc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:06:43 GMT
Organization: Organ Grinders Monkeys Union With Penguins As Mascots

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> N. Richard Caldwell <nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us> writes:
> 
> > Actually, now that I think about it, you don't even need that.  Wafmail
> > already does a passable job of stuffing USENET messages into QWK packets.
> > The real limitations are in the offline readers.  If someone wrote a QWK
> > reader that would recognize USENET style messages in the body of the QWK
> > packet, all these problems could be solved.  All the information is there,
> > it's just in headers in the message body instead of the QWK mail
> > headers.

Right now I use a qwk reader called OFFLINE 1.40 written by  Harvey Paresien,
( Spelling ) and it has a little feature that was designed for Fido Netmail
that seems to work just fine With usenet. OFFLINE 1.40 is Freeware too!


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From: Jonathan Herr <valnet!herrj@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Latest ISO 8859-1 Patch for Waffle available
Keywords: ISO8859-1 Waffle Patch
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 23:57:54 EST
Reply-To: herrj%valnet@news.cs.indiana.edu
Organization: WVCF, Vincennes, IN, USA
Disclaimer: Author responsible for contents


kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:

# What does this patch do?
# 
#   The patch replaces rmail and Waffle compress in order to translate
#   between IBM Code Page 850 (437) and ISO 8859-1 for outgoing and
#   incoming mails and news. It also adds a MIME-header for mail.
# 
# Who needs the patch?
# 
#   Well, all the people who aren't satisfied using 7-bit US ASCII, but
#   do well with ISO 8859-1. If you want to benefit as much as possible
#   please use Code Page 850 on your PC.
# 
#   It let's you read/write characters like this:
# 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER A GRAVE      : 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER A ACUTE      : 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER A CIRCUMFLEX : 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER A TILDE      : 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER A DIARESIS   : 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER A RING       : 
#         LATIN SMALL LETTER N TILDE      : 
# 
#         COPYRIGHT SIGN                  : 

Funny thing is that I'm seeing the characters that you're talking
about.  All I did was set the STATIC file param 'charsize' to eight.
(ie. charsize : 8)  I can't vouch for what it will look like when it
gets back to you, though.
From: root@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Disk Cache causes **HEADER ERRORS**
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:13:46 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid) writes:

> With all the people having **header errors** I thought I should
> mention a solution that helped me.
> 
> When you are using a disk cache (I use Hypercache) with deferred
> writes, the disk driver kicks in occasionally to flush the cache.
> When doing this it takes over the cpu while it does its writing
> to disk. (At least this is what happens with Hypercache).  This
> causes lost characters between the cpu and modem.
> 
> The result was that my system was aborting uucico sessions quite often
> after reporting **header errors**.  Myfix was to disable the disk
> cache before calling uucico, and restoring it after uucico was
> complete.

A better idea is to turn off the deferred writes, though you cache will do
nothing for the writes, it will speed up reads to the disk (obviously). In my
cache, I have to do this as the Netware Lite read me warns of a good chance
for lost data (...due to this interupting non-reentrant DOS calls).

Mark

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: uucico speed, bad headers
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 07:57:10 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.
Summary: it works mum, look no hands

Hi wafflers,
 
I have been playing around with the bad header problem and the slow
transfer rate I have been experiencing. Here are the results for
the MultiTech V32 modem.
 
1. Make sure your fossil driver (BNU in my case) is set to 9600 not
   19200.
2. Make sure you have uu.window set to "3" not the default 7
3. Make sure you have uu.fossil set up in static
4. If you like me have multi lines and your uucico line is set to
   a higher speed than the static "Speed:" line and you have NOT
   set your fossil to 9600 make sure you set poll.bat to uucico 
   -s9600 (and -t60 to stop the time outs)
 
I now have 934cps during transfer instead of 500cps. V42 is on and
so is MNP, flow control is rts/cts
 
regards


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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Shroom and Waffle, mutual coexistence IS possible!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:06:14 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

-> eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:
-> > abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
-> > 
-> > ->                                Remote Text Editor
-> > 
-> > Sounds good.  I'd love to check it out.
-> > Do you have a mail server or the ability to put it up on simtel or
-> > Halcyon?
-> 
-> Sorry, no.  But do try to contact the author. Maybe his BBS is still
-> on-line. (Did I included his BBS number in my reply?)

Nope.

-> If all your resources fail, I could upload it to CIS.

Does CI$ have attached mail files?  That would be preferred or
uuencoded and mailed to me at this address thanks.


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From: carlos@infoserv.com (Carlos Dominguez)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: ..working with 1.63 (modified)
Keywords: 1.63, editor, importing-text, mail
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:13:30 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Dominguez UseNet, Brooklyn NY, USA

vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes..

> you can run snews for certain with pre-1.65 waffles.

Can you give me the coordinates so I can email the halcyon
archive-server to email it to me?

What is the snews interface like? I could care less about
GUI's and Mouse interfaces, but anything with a TIN or
ELM like display I would kill (almost) for!

> besides, virtually all c.b.w. readers are up to 1.65 so you'll get
> better support here too!

I tried to email ralphs@halcyon.com because I was told that
rus-news v096 might work, but I haven't heard anything yet.
Could you find out where that goodie is?

I may try helldiver as well since I use MS-WINDOWS at home..

Email welcomed! Flames aren't!
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From: pces1182@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Posting
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:39:45 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

We are having a problem getting waffle to send mail/posts from remote callers. 

It works fine when I am in local mode, but remote users can't do anything. When
they type the '/s' it says "spawn: execution failed: check extern files".

Any thoughts?

AJ
From: system@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Very Big Waffle bug!!
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:48:32 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

dennis@pete.uucp (Dennis Peterson) writes:

> I just got thought rebuilding my hard disk for the SECOND time. And
> Waffle did it to me!.
>
> It appears rnews will sometime recreate a directory that already exist,
> create bad links, cross-link files, etc.  In general a real mess. I think
> it is being confused by the switching between C: and D: during the
> processing of the input files and writting the files back to the news
> directories.

I believe that RNEWS has nothing to do with Waffle... it's a seperate
module altogether.
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