HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bartels@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jeff Bartels 283-4167)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Windows Gradebook?
Date: 17 Aug 1992 20:16:57 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company

In article <1992Aug14.231754.22457@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, mfprf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Paul R. Falzer) writes:
|> 
|> The person from McDonnell-Douglas asks, "what's a gradebook?"  Funny, I was
|> just wondering: "what's an airplane?"
|> 
|> Only kidding.
|> 
|> A gradebook is a log kept by a teacher of student attendance and progress. 
|> While many instructors are still using a paper and pencil-type log, some
|> have moved to electronic gradebooks.  
|> 
|> The principal advantage of the electronic versions (at least for me) is that
|> numbers are aggregated automatically, saving me a lot of time and reducing
|> my error rate. 
|> 
|>   Paul R. Falzer
|>     Internet: mfprf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
|>     Bitnet:   mfprf@ecnuxa.bitnet

Ha Ha. Good response. I know the question sounded silly but with all of the
application-name jargon these days its always better to ask if you're not sure

Just a suggestion:

Use a spreadsheet to do the same thing. 
This would be a trivial task for Excel, for example.

It seems that the biggest problem you have is that you must have the
electronic gradebook present when class begins or else write things on paper and
transfer them to the computer later - still preferable to a paper-based system
but error-prone as well. Make sure you backup those disks...
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner)
Subject: Re: Worfperfect 5.1 problem
Organization: San Jose State University, Math & CS
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:02:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.124131.11716@news.nd.edu> rwilliam@mozart.helios.nd.edu (richard williams) writes:
>From: rwilliam@mozart.helios.nd.edu (richard williams)
>Subject: Re: Worfperfect 5.1 problem
>Date: 11 Aug 92 12:41:31 GMT
>In article <5XBcPB1w164w@selinix%einoed.in-berlin.de> dob@selinix%einoed.in-berlin.de (Dirk Brzezinski) writes:
>
>As far as Windows vs. WP drivers -- Windows drivers let you use Truetype.
>WP drivers are faster, give you greater control over forms, let you easily
>switch between landscape and portrait orientation within the same document.
>Also, if you use the WP drivers, you can easily switch between the Win
>and Dos versions of WP.  If the WP drivers could handle TrueType, I
>would use them all the time.

The problem is conceptual.  WP can create a driver that allows you to use
TrueType fonts.  The only problem is - it will ONLY work with a TrueImage
printer.  Just like you can only use PostScript fonts with a PostScript
printer (using WP [DOS] drivers).  You can use TrueType and/or PostScript
fonts with multiple printers using Windows driver because Windows has
software that will rasterize the font outlines for your printer.  

The only was a WP [DOS] driver could do that type of rasterization would
be to have you run a TSR for TrueType and a separate one for PostScript.
These TSR's would handle the rasterization.  Then you would have heaps
of troubles if you forgot to load the TSR!

This is quickly becoming a Windows FAQ item.  Folks do not seem to realize
that TrueType fonts are font outline PROGRAMS, analogous to Adobe Type 1,
and you need sonething that can interpret these programs and then rasterize 
the result (2 separate and distinct steps).  Windows 3.1 and Apple's System 
7 has the interpreter built in to the printer kernel, and the rasterizer is
partly printer kernel, partly printer driver.  The ONLY printers that
can DIRECTLY handle TrueType fonts are TrueImage printers.  TrueImage is
Microsoft's competitor product to PostScript as a page description language
(PDL) and a TrueImage printer has a TrueImage/TrueType interpreter and raster
image processor built into it - just like a PostScript printer has the
PostScript iterpreter and RIP built in!

The bottom line is that the ONLY way a company like WP Corporation will be
able to add TrueType font processing, outside of Windows (where Windows
handles it), it to license TrueImage and include that in to their products
(most likely as a TSR).  That would cost plently - MS would want a good
license fee here - and bloat the product considerably.

>Good luck with your problems.
>
>
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Subject: Re: WinQVT 2.7?
From: tfarmer@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:47:08 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <Bsy1wu.Mov@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>Actually I think if you register they will give you 
>2.7. The next update on cica will probably be 2.8. 

Well, I just got 2.7 from a local board. I wish the place where I work
would register it. :-(

>I'm still using 2.2, since that is the last one with 
>a working FTP server.

Well, the FTP server in 2.6 and 2.7 works fine. I often use it to pick
up files from an RS/6000 and a OS/2 box running TCP/IP 1.2.
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From: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WP for Windows or Word?
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:06:08 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug17.080928.1@bigez> dmmatt@bigez (Mike Mattix) writes:

Stuff deleted...

>...  My kingdom for reveal codes!!


Exactly!  *All* word processors have hidden codes, even Word.  In Word
the codes are totally hidden.  Formatting is much easier when you have
the option to *see* the codes and control exactly where they are placed.

Chuck

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WP for Windows or Word?
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:31:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.Bt9DL1.AJM
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Aug16.054233.13324@sequent.com> furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod) writes:


>It is obvious that your divison head did not do his/her homework on
>Word for Windows and WP for Windows before rendering judgement. If
>the reasons were actually the command sequences and the file
>formats, then they were excuses more than reasons. Microsoft took
>great pains to write W4W such that you could use the WP command
>keystrokes and provided a tutorial to ease the transition into W4W
>command sets. Also, they read and write WP format as well, so I
>fail to see where the justification was to stay with it.

Problem is that even with the WP help turned on using the same
keystrokes in wordperfect causes a slow tutorial to come up, rather
than a quick doing of whatever it was you needed to do. A good 
case in point was indenting a paragraph. In Wordperfect you simply
hit F4. In Word F4 starts this long process whereby a menu item, 
then a dialog box pops out, some numbers change, and 5-6 seconds 
later the paragraph indents. Then supposing you want to put a bul-
let in. In WP you point to before the indent code, then add the 
bullet character. Doing that in Word causes the bullet character
to be indented as well. 

In fact, bullets and indenting in Word are very good and easy to 
use.. The proper way to do indented paragraphs is to use the ruler,
not the dialog box. The proper way to do bullets is to use the bullet 
tool. The problem isn't that they are better or worse, it is that 
they are very different. The consideration is basically one of re-
training. Retraining costs _can_ be significant and can outweigh 
the advantages of a better word processor of you have a huge instal-
led base of users and documents.










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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: yedinak@rtsg.mot.com (Mark A. Yedinak)
Subject: Comments or experience with Eclipse Fax package
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:26:38 GMT

Has anyone seen or used the new Windows fax package by Eclipse?  It is
similiar to WinFAX Pro,  except that it lets you draw or add text to any fax
which you received.  It also claims to be faster than WinFAX Pro.  I need a
Windows fax package and have narrowed my choices down to either WinFAX or
Eclipse.  Any experience or comments are appreciated.
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From: saustin@bbn.com (Steve Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Word for Windows vs. Ami Pro
Date: 15 Aug 92 09:15:02 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

jkidd@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Jimmy Kidd) writes:

->How much effect Print Manager has on the printing speed depends on your
->system.  In general, the faster you hard disk, the less Print Manager slows
->down your printing.  

If you have Stacker, you could try the trick that I saw on the Net.
I created a 512k RamDrive and then stacked it giving a nominal
1Mb RamDrive to which I use as a TMP directory.  This hasn't run out
on me yet (I printed a thesis, chapter by chapter with no probs),
so it works for me.

	Steve
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: spcberto@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Robert Osterlund)
Subject: Re: Stacker, Windows, Swapfile, & Defrag
Organization: U of Chicago, SSPPCC
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:13:36 GMT

In article <19255@drutx.ATT.COM> dfh@dwroll.att.com writes:
>From article <PHPDPB3w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>, by dszpiro@student.business.uwo.ca (Daniel A. Szpiro):
>
>> Stacker's SDEFRAG utility will defragment the stacked drive, but will not
>> operate on the unstacked portion. Norton's SPEED DISK won't stop with the
>> small, unstacked portion of my hard drive and is a no-no with Stacker.
>
>Are you sure SPEED DISK "won't stop with the small, unstacked portion"?
>The stacked portion of your hard drive is just one big hidden file on
>the HOST drive.  I always thought that SPEED DISK would not touch hidden
>files.  So you should be able to defrag the HOST drive with SPEED DISK
>and it will ignore the (large) hidden file that is your stacked drive.
>
In SPEEDISK, set STACVOL.DSK as an Unmovable File.  Then optimize the
rest of the unstacked drive.  I tried this over the weekend, and it appears
to have worked without problems.

Bob Osterlund
berto@clio.spc.uchicago.edu
SSPPCC--University of Chicago


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: macole@wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole)
Subject: Re: backgound file transfers
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:04:13 GMT

In article <714265709.0@davespc.mi.org> Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org (Dave Beaujean) writes:
>Hi All!
>
>Has anyone been able to successfully transfer files
>in the background while working in another window. I
>cannot get procomm for windows to work!!! It works
>fine until I alt-tab to another window, then I get
>errors (CRC, UART Overflow, etc.). When I change back
>into the window where I am doing the transfer (procomm
>for windows), the transfer continues fine. I am also
>having this problem with UUCICO (unix file transfers),
>and Telix (DOS comm software). It does not happen
>every time. Sometimes (20% of the time) the transfer
>works ok. After spending a week talking to Microsoft
>with 2 dozen unseccessful attempts, I am told that
>I may not get it to work at all. I am told (by one
>Microsoft technician) that he does the transfer with Telix
>and Procomm all the time with no trouble. I have tried
>everything! Even a brand new windows installation with a new
>copy of windows 3.1!!!
>
>Any help would really be appreciated as I totally stuck
>with no more ideas from Microsoft.
>
>Dave

I took care of this problem from a hardware standpoint.  I bought a serial
card with 16550 UART chips.  The chips contain caching so while I'm downloading
or uploading I can run other applications with out any aborting...of course
I do lose a few characters during the transfer but Procomm 4 Windows takes
good care of the lost characters.  When I upgrade to my 486-50, I should lose
any characters at all because Procomm should be able to keep up with task-
swapping.  Running small programs like Minesweeper or Solitaire won't cause a
flinch...only when I run Aldus Freehand or Pagemaker do I lose a few characters.

Hope that sheds some light on something....
Mario

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.infosystems.gis,comp.protocols.nfs
From: j.craick@trl.oz.au (John Craick)
Subject: HELP - running Arcview under Win 3.1
Summary: General Protection fault - Help needed
Keywords: Arcview Windows3.1 PC-NFS
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:48:25 GMT

Can anyone help on this one ?

We're trying to run ESRI's Arcview 1.0 in Windows 3.1 with DOS 5 on a 
good 386 clone with 8Mbyte of memory. We're also running PC-NFS version 
3.5c.

On attempting to open a view off a network drive we immediately get the
message :

" WIN386 caused a General Protection Fault in module <unknown> 
185F:F0B61. WIN386 will close"

The address (?) part 185F:xxxx seems to vary between incidences of the 
error.

We're running pcnfs.sys with switches /f60 /v as recommended by TFM. 
Anyone know what these actually do ?

Any clues or anyone got this sort of combination going.

Help would be much appreciated.

John Craick
j.craick@trl.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Latest Version of Winword ?
From: spcberto@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Robert Osterlund)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:20:26 GMT
Organization: U of Chicago, SSPPCC

In article <1992Aug1.183540.8591@dmp.csiro.au> lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) writes:
>...
>Does anyone notice how Digital Research and Lotus 
>announce and send bug fix upgrades to their 
>registered users, wheras Microsoft could not give 
>a damm!!!
>
>Which software company is going to be the first
>up against the wall when the revolution comes?
>...
>  Lachlan Cranswick  -  CSIRO             _--_|\  lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU
>  Division of Mineral Products           /      \     +61 3 647 0367
>  PO Box 124, Port Melbourne 3207        \_.--._/ 
>  AUSTRALIA                                    v 

In response to an announcement from Microsoft, I received a free upgraded
version of Excel 3.0 about six months ago.  No hassle, all it took was a
quick phone call.

So, I think Microsoft does in fact give a damn.

Bob Osterlund
berto@clio.spc.uchicago.edu
SSPPCC--University of Chicago
From: dan@vestek.com (Dan Tabori)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Windows database?
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:12:45 GMT
Organization: Vestek Systems, 388 Market San Francisco 415-398-6340

In article <BswME0.K1v@chinet.chi.il.us> prb@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Botts) writes:
>My wife needs a low-end Windows database program for some simple home
>and home-business stuff, like a small databse of clients to run invoices
>and mailing lables and lists from.

Try "Approach for Windows" from Approach Software. I picked it up for $120,
and at the time there was a 90 day money back guarantee.
I'm not sure what the current price is, because it was an introductory
price at the time. I used it to develop a small-business order/inventory
application and it fulfilled most of my needs.
   By the way, it can also import graphics into a field, as I think you
mentioned the need for in your article.
   The software also comes with some basic business templates which give you
a good idea of Approach's capabilities.

The new rev is coming out in September/October. According to their tech-support
there are some significant changes being implemented. So it might be
worthwhile waiting for it.


Good Luck!
-Dan
dan@vestek.com

p.s. No, I don't work for Approach.


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From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.text.desktop
Subject: Framemaker vs Ventura
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:33:18 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

My wife's company is looking at using either Framemaker or Ventura for
Windows (currently they use Ventura for GEM).  She writes manuals for
computer programs the company sells.

Has anyone had experience comparing one to the other, or just experience
using Framemaker?  Any horror stories?  Any tales of wonder?

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From: pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Procomm for Windows: Edit.Reset-Terminal (from script)
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:17:00 GMT


	Hope this isn't TOO obvious (like, RTFM, man!)
	but does anyone know how to reset the terminal
	(or invoke any other items from the menu bar)
	from a script?  The script recorder doesn't
	capture Alt-E's and the like.

	Thanks,

	= Mark
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: mporter@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Matthew D Porter)
Subject: Re: Winfax Pro and sharing COM1/COM3
Keywords: 3.1 WinFax patch COM sharing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:19:13 GMT

I am using a different IRQ (irq5, that is).  I am set for COM3 at address 3E8h.
So, it goes looking for my faxmodem and says I can't share interrupts while in
enhanced mode on THIS version of Win (3.1).   This is bull, of course, because
Crosstalk finds the datamodem, just fine.  A problem with the faxmodem 
portion's COM decoding circuitry?
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From: ken@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: WINDOCK & Brian Capson?
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:18:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Daniel A. Szpiro (dszpiro@student.business.uwo.ca) wrote:
: cap@mb5000.anes.upmc.edu (chris pilewski) writes:
: 
: I know that $15 is not a lot of money, but its experiences like this
: that make me doubt whether I should bother ever registering shareware
: again in the future. If a comment like that upsets shareware
: developers who consider themselves responsible, then they too should
: try to get people like Capson to act responsibly.

Use dropper instead of windock. It's in cica in the uploads directory.
drop_02.zip. It's a zillion times better than windock - full drag and drop
from the file manager. Best of all, it ain't shareware.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: kls@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kenneth L Shellberg)
Subject: WinQVT/Net,Numlock & cursorkeys
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:45:12 GMT

I recently obtained WinQVT/Net 2.7 and to be brief, the inverted t-pad
cursor keys and the insert and delete keys do not work.  From a telnet
window control-insert will not work to copy text to the clipboard.
In a telnet window running emacs (as I am right now), cursor keys
only beep, forcing me to use control-b, etc.  Under NCSA telnet, these
keys work fine.  Anyone care to comment?  Do I have a weird keyboard?
Is this a known problem?  And has anyone gotten a response from the
internet address for QPC at djpk@uhura.cc.rochester.edu?

Thanks in advance,

Ken





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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rwilliam@mozart.helios.nd.edu (richard williams)
Subject: Re: WP for Windows or Word?
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:21:52 GMT

>without too much trouble. However, I was astonished to see that WordPerfect
>for windows looked more like a character based program than a WYSIWYG one.

Most reviewers seem to prefer WinWOrd.  Even though I have both it and
WpWin, I have stuck with WpWin because Winword is nowhere near as good
at converting my WP files as it claims to be.  But, while Winword
may be the better program, WpWin isn't as bad as it seemed.  Especially
if you make good use of the ruler, it is easy to pick fonts and font sizes.
On the pulldown menus, the Font option lets you choose fonts, font sizes,
bold, etc.  If you use truetype fonts and the Windows printer drivers,
you should get a very good (even perfect) match between screen and
printer.  There is a draft mode (maybe you were in it) that speeds up
editing but looks much like the dos version.
 
So, there may be be many good reasons for going with WinWord, but I
don't think Wysiwyg capabilities is one of them.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Subject: Q Pro
Organization: Saint Mary's University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:48:13 GMT

A prof here has the followin config:
386 PC
Windows 3.1
Norton desktop
Quattro Pro
Agiler Mouse

Both Qpro and Windows say to load the mouse driver from the autoexec.bat 
and then load windows. I did so, but when I start windows and double click 
on QPro (dos full screen) Windows comes back and says both QPro and Windows
are trying to use the mouse. It then asks what program should get control of 
the mouse. I cant find any reference to yhis error in the Qpro or Windows 
manuals




Does anyone have experience getting QPro to work with windows 3.1


Thanks
GJames@husky1.stmarys.ca
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