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From: mvij@novell.com (Manish Vij)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Braking Secrets of the Pros Revealed
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:21:28 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Jul24.195435.16877@colorado.edu> matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>   "Occasionally, however, you may find it necessary to stop in a 
>real hurry.  The procedure for emergency stops, as given by the 
>California Highway Patrol Academy to its motorcycle students, is
>this:
>   o  Apply rear-wheel brake, locking rear wheel.

MSF teaches that you get maximum braking _without_ locking either wheel,
because the coefficient of sliding friction (tire against slab) is much
lower than the coefficient of sliding friction for brake pad against rotor.

Truth . . . or dare?

Manish
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From: bozek@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Need help/info on getting a TRIUMPH out of an old barn
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:27:21 GMT

     There's a Triumph Bonneville 500 circa '72 in a barn that is 
mine for a couple days work. It's not running but it will be.

     Does anybody know if a 750 cc will bolt in or some where info
is available to increase the air/fuel mass flow rates for the 500.

     Finally came to my senses and The muscle cars are being put to
rest. But the endless quest for horsepower is alive and well.

p.s. Anybody want a '68 Dart GTS 383 4speed ?
     Got all the parts to run 12's
     re-assembly required
        
                                     
                                       
                                bozek@umaecs.edu  David Bozek
                                University of Massachusetts - Amherst
                                Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
From: vdclprd@prism.gatech.edu (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: What kind of bike in _The_Playboys_?
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:10:00 GMT


	Can anyone identify the moto in the movie _The_Playboys_?  The
movie is set in Ireland, around 1957, so if the producers were doing
their job, the bike should be from around then.  It had a sidecar
mounted on the *left* side, which I though looked unusual.  Although it
may be like that 'cause they ride on the wrong^H^H^H^H^Hother side of
the road over there.

	I thought I saw a BSA logo on the tank, but I'm not sure.  I
tried to look closely, but Robin Wright kept distracting me.  :-)

Mike Mitten                 Irony is the spice of life.                 DoD#522
Internet:  vdclprd@prism.gatech.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: The full tale can now be told .....
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:20:38 GMT

jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.223008.7382@worldbank.org> aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET writes:

>Hmmm... aside from paying tribute money to the local dealer, do the
>manufacturers sell manuals mail order?

Yamaha (& BMW, I presume) manuals can be had from Competition
Accessories. For other makes, I'd try the mail-order "Genuine XXXXX
Parts" type places. I've bought Suzuki parts from Midwest Action Cycle
and been happy with their service. I think they carry Honda stuff too.

Competition Accessories Inc.
1-800-543-3535
1944 US Rt. 68 North
Xenia, OH 45385

Midwest Action Cycle Suzuki Parts Warehouse
(800) 323-0078
(708) 894-4661
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blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
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From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Katana oil filter -- how special is the tool?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  oil filter, katana, special tool
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:34:00 GMT

	I picked up an oil filter for the 600 yesterday, with an eye to trying
out some Mobil 1 if I can find it.  However, the filter is a spin-on type and
needs a special tool to screw it on.  It seems the tool is a 14-sided socket,
about 65 mm across flats.  Is this an auto-standard that I might pick up in a
hot-rod shop, or is it a Suzuki orphan so I have to go cap-in-hand to my
dealer and beg to buy one?

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
                                    (after I change the oil)
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Harley/Other dealerships
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:22:59 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Jul22.221615.27628@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>
>I bought my Honda CB900C in 1980-ish from a combined Honda/Harley dealer
>in Xenia OH. Unfortunately they folded a few years after that. I really
>liked, though, dropping by for service, parts etc. and being able to
>ogle the H-Ds.
>
>Combined dealerships like this probably aren't too rare. Competition
>Accessories (yes the very same), also in Xenia OH, is a combined
>BMW/Yamaha Dealer. I've gone in their retail showroom and have seen
>a V-Max, and FZR1000, and a R100GS P/D sitting side by side, and lived
>to tell the tale.

Not that unusual at all, I don't believe.  John, you don't even have to
go to Ohio to find a Harley/Honda combination.  Sun Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki/
Harley Davidson is right here in the Denver area.  I've quit going there
for parts unless I'm really desperate.  The parts guys there seem to know
Harleys a lot better than anything else.  On numerous occasions I've gone
looking for parts for a Honda, and they offer a Harley substitute, "We don't
have a fork seal for a CB750F, but this Harley seal might work."  Really,
I'm not exaggerating.  I needed a piece of fuel line once, and the guy came
out with something roughly the diameter of dryer vent hose and said, "This is
what we use on Harleys, so it should work on your Honda."

Another example of a combined dealership is the Harley/Yamaha dealer in
Rapid City.  Chuck Rogers and I stopped in there in June, and the place was
really hopping, even on a week day.  They seemed to really have things
together -- even had some Jerry Branch heads right there in the display case.
We then went the half-mile down the street to Rice Honda/Suzuki, and the
place was dead.  When we finally got someone to wait on us, they overcharged
Chuck about 50% for some Honda synthetic oil.  Neither dealer had Golden 
Spectro.  His FJ1100 seemed to accept the Honda oil without too much
whining. 8-)
--

P.M. Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: !!! SUMMER RIDING SUIT RAFFLE !!!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:10:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.225846.25925@infonode.ingr.com> jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com writes:
>Announcing the...
>
>           !!! SUMMER RIDING SUIT YOU LOVE TO HATE RAFFLE !!!
>
>Once again, for those of you that missed it the first 50 times, here is a 
>description of the SUIT...
>
AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!  Fucking stop it!!  You've posted this fucking description
over couple of days for the last month.  WE ALL KNOW ABOUT IT!!  If we
haven't send you money yet, we aren't going to!!!!  DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
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DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE


Dean

ps.  Maybe I should try decaf?
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:01:51 GMT

In article <21642@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:
>
>What, I hear you asking, does this have to do with abortions and national
>health care?  Well, think about this: suppose the government goes ahead
>and mandates national health care.  Said health care is paid for out of
>our tax dollars.  Now, the government can ban any damn thing it pleases, 
> [alcohol prohibition, no abortion, no smoking, no extramarital sex,
>   helmet laws, seatbelt laws]
>
>All of which leads me to this conclusion: next time somebody tells you how
>wonderful it would be to have national health care, and how politically
>correct and forward-looking it would be, look a little forward yourself
>and tell them, "Thanks, I'd rather have all my teeth extracted -- without
>benefit of insurance or anesthesia."  


	Ever heard of Canada?  We have public health care paid
for out of tax dollars.  Alcohol, abortion, tobacco, extramarital
sex, and riding without a helmet in some provinces, are all still legal.

	We also spend less per capita on health care than the 
American system does, with better overall treatment for patients.
Now, there is a lot of "cross border shopping" for specialized
medical procedures that have huge waiting lists here, because in
America, if you are rich, you can buy your own health care 
without delay, which is nice.   On the other hand, if you are poor
in Canada, you still receive decent treatment, whereas if you are poor
in the USA you die on the sidewalk outside the Emergency room
because they won't let you in with an empty wallet.
(Hyperbolic?  Just following your example.)

	What, I hear you asking, does this have to do with
rec.motorcycles?  Precious little.  Followups to /dev/null.

	Oh, you were going to tell us what bike you ride, and
where, and why, and stuff like that?   Great!  Let's hear it!


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VF750S Sabre (his) FZX750 Fazer (hers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: EX500s and traffic ... and question about pipes.
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:36:55 GMT

In article <Jul.28.11.32.29.1992.2726@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum) writes:
>>
>>Say, wanna buy an aftermarket pipe?  I recently went back to the stockers
>>from the Kerker Whitetip that was on the bike when I bought it.  It makes
>>better high-end power, but is loooooud...
>
>BTW,  Did the carbs have to be rejetted with the Kerker exhaust?  I

I didn't have the carbs rejetted on mine, which caused some flat spots at
the low end of the tach (below about 5,000 it was sluggish, but at around
7,000, it took off like a shot).  I imagine rejetting would help the flat
spot immensely, and probably also improve the top end as well.

>Keith

I'm curious about why most aftermarket pipes use a 4:1 or 2:1 system instead
of a 4:2 system.  It would seem that dumping all 4 (or 2) cylinders into a
single pipe would increase the back pressure, decreasing exhaust flow.

Granted, I'm looking at this from an automotive point of view (8:2 generally
being a better high performance process than 8:1), but it seems the same
basic principles would apply to motorcycles.

I understand that weight is more of a concern on a cycle, which would have
something to do with it (the entire Whitetip system weighed less than just
one of the muffler canisters on the stock system), but wouldn't a freer-
flowing 4:2 (or 2:2) system be more effecient?

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From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mobil 1 is So Smoooth
Keywords: Mobil 1 vs others tried.
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:05:06 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <Jul.28.14.25.19.1992.4655@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum) writes:
>
>Acutally it WAS  something like KOTL which made me laugh at the time.
>Or maybe it was KoTF or DoD or......
>
>It was Synthetic 4-stroke racing oil.  Dosen't matter, I really like
>Mobil 1.

Klotz, maybe?
--

P.M. Smith
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Info on '88 FZR750RS ?
Date: 24 Jul 1992 23:56:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

>In article <9207242022.AA18448@elm.sdd.trw.com.asquared> dknight@ELM.SDD.TRW.COM (David B. Knight) writes:
>>
>>Someone here at work is selling an '88 Yamaha FZR750RS Limited Edition
>>for $4,250.  He claims that only 200 were made.

 The '87 and '88 FZR750s were sold as the OW01 outside the continental
 US. Here they were just called FZRs. They only imported 200 of them
 in order to make them legal for AMA competition. They cost about $6500
 new I believe and the kit for them (to make them into full-on superbikes)
 cost about the same amount.

 They didn't import any in '89 and then began importation of roughly
 20/yr in '90 (calling them OWO1s). The frame changed significantly in
 '90 (much beefier aluminum). 

 If you can get the '88 for $4250 it's a pretty good deal if it's in
 pristine shape. I have tons of racekit parts for them if you're 
 interested (as I own one). 

 There was no such thing as a "Limited Edition" to my knowledge.
 However, you might check to see if it has any of the trick parts
 from the racekit (titanium rearsets, dry clutch, flat-slide carbs,
 different swingarm, etc..).

 Stef
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From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:23:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
: How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
: one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)
: -- 
: Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108

Try Suicycle, in Nampa Id. ....... (Gag!)
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                              FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
From: grm@druhi.att.com (G. R. Martinez)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DoD gif, bitmaps, rasterfiles, etc.?
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:36:45 GMT
Organization: AT&T-BL Denver, Colorado

Anyone have any of the above you are willing to email?

Thanks in advance....
-- 
Gerald R. Martinez	(303) 538-1338		DoD 1701 / VF1100S V65 Sabre
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site)
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:35:13 GMT

>brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.010829.16293@tcsi.com>, markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>+ 
>+ >ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
>+ 
>+ [helmetless rider hits deer]
>+ 
>+ >I think that she made a thoughtless choice that imposed unnecessarily upon
>+ >the kindness of strangers. Frankly, MY first reaction was not of compassion
>+ >but was of rage. HOW COULD SHE BE SO ALMIGHTY STUPID TO BE RIDING WITHOUT
>+ >A HELMET!!!!! She is free to choose to ride helmetless but I, nor any of
>+ >the helpers was free to let her die unattended.
>+ 
>> Did you consider checking for a wallet?  You might have found a few
>> bucks in that would have made it worth your time and effort.
>> 
>
>	Mark, are you still alive?  Or did you immediately cut your own
>	throat when you realized what a mind-numbingly *foolish* and
>	utterly *assinine* statment you just posted?  Tell me, Mark,
>	how do you feel about Harleys?

>	God, I can't stand it.

Moronic post get to you, Bruce?  Drive you a little over the edge?  Perhaps 
Mark's comment can be taken a different way, no?  Ron's first emotion was not
compassion; perhaps neither is yours.  Immediately after opening up on Mark,
you dump on a brand of machine.  That mystique must be working pretty hard...

I have seen nothing in this thread saying:

What kind of injuries (i.e. head) the woman sustained
What the woman was riding
How a helmet could have prevented/lessened the consequences

Strange how if she had been wearing a helmet, Ron would have been free to feel
compassion as a first response.  I imagine some automobile drivers first 
reactions were 'why was she on a bike?'.  Indeed, everyone's safety threshold
stops somewhere, as the absence of bullet-proof vests among readers (don't ask,
I know) will testify.

Your post was needlessly inflamatory.  Your attempt to combine helmets and
harleys is infantile.  

And if you really can't stand it, send email to:

harley-yes@wk42.nas.nasa.gov

so those of us that can appreciate Mark's humor and see through Ron's self-
serving concern (didn't even ask about her, eh?) can get on with life in
this police state.  A motorcyclist voting for a helmet law is like a chicken
taking out stock in KFC.


Steve Cowell, Site Tech, VLBA, Fort Davis, TX.....standard disclaimers...
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 - The White Rims!!
Summary: test
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:16:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <14mft0INNo9d@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 76352@ut-emx.uucp, captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>>
>>....Anyway, ms. smarty pants, what IS in Simple Green?
          ----^^-----
             
>Wet, green stuff.
>
>Ed Green

Oh, gee!  I didn't realize!  Ed must be short for Edwina, eh?


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From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:46:55 GMT

In article <14hchcINNlpi@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 61@oregon.uoregon.edu, sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
>>A Harley, is a Harley, is a Harley!  
>Unless it's a Buell.

Or a Rotax.


-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
DoD #0x451
From: na4@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: My views of the RCR
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:54:02 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Jul30.155525.28767@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman) writes: 
> andersen@me.udel.edu  writes:
>> BeeStings while riding?

Yep, on my first ride (as a passenger) with Bare, who then taught me
to ride on my own (yee haw (y ee haw!)

NKA  '85 XJ700


> Has anyone ever been stung by a bee or other stinging bug while riding?
> I've been stung twice while riding and bot at >55mph. I didn't think
> bees were smart enough to aim at an object going that fast.
> 
> Will Heyman		UVA Applied Math	wsh8z@v
From: joe@mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: getting stung while riding (was Re: My views of the RCR)
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:57:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2154

In article <1992Jul30.155525.28767@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman) writes:
> Has anyone ever been stung by a bee or other stinging bug while riding?
> I've been stung twice while riding and bot at >55mph. I didn't think
> bees were smart enough to aim at an object going that fast.

I've been hit twice. first by one of those huge black/yellow honey
bees. I had just pulled away from a stoplight and started a left hand
turn when I apparently turned into the little buggers path. he left
me a painful present right above my belly button.

my second encounter was with a wasp. I picked him up at about 45mph
right on my left kneecap. he was no more impressed with the ride 
than the honey bee was so he let me know it just before he fell off.

being slightly allergic to stings I was able to get stopped before
becoming too dizzy to drive.

--
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               92 BMW K100RS
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