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From: a3khan@student.business.uwo.ca (Alimudin Khan)
Subject: Info wanted on file formats: EA's Cartooners
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:17:44 GMT

A posting on behalf of Adam, my 6 year old brother:


Do you know how to make any sound effects on Cartooners?  It's a
game we have and we don't know how to make some more sounds that
we make up?  Thank you.


Er, some more explanation:

Cartooners is an animation program, originally an Electronic
Arts product (or distributed by them), that Big Red Computer
Club now distributes.  It's awesome!

On to Adam's question: I can't figure out how to use sounds or
music from other sources (e.g. raw data sound files, or Music
Construction Set songs).  The ad from Big Red says that Instant
Music files should be compatible, but unfortunately we don't
have this program.

Does anyone know what format these sound/music files are in? 
The file type is binary, so that's not much help.  Any
enlightenment would be appreciated.


P.S. The scenery pictures and actors are Deluxepaint II
compatible (pictures and brushes, respectively).  This point is
documented in the manual; sound compatibility is not (unless
we're missing something).


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Alim Khan
a3khan@student.business.uwo.ca
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From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Mail bouncing
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 05:33:57 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

I have a number of people to thank for mail they ahve sent to me.  For 
some reason, my outgoing mail is bouncing.  SO, THANKS TO ALL!!

larry@lablues.UUCP
FidoNet:  1:132/300 Larry Schneider

     / 7: "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann,  |  Larry Schneider
    /      darueber muss man schweigen."   |  Bright Software
   /                                       |  P. O. Box 120
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: wsquires@lonestar.utsa.edu (William H. Squires)
Subject: Re: Finder Questions
Followup-To: Finder Questions
Summary: The actual questions
Keywords: Finder
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:50:14 GMT
Expires: ???

In article <1993Jan27.213041.25388@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> wsquires@lonestar.utsa.edu (William H. Squires) writes:
>Ignore this posting and read followup instead.
>
>
>

  Sorry about that, folks. My local gateway acts up about the Keywords: stuff.
Oh, well. Here it is.
  Under GS/OS 5.04 (and earlier), The custom-made icons for my nifty apps and
data files show up just fine. When I boot System 6.0, I lose some of my icons
(probably to embedded rIcon resources) while others work fine. The questions:

1. Can I tell System 6.0 to ignore the rIcon resources and use the icons in the
   ICON files instead? (perhaps with a patch)

2. When I switch back to 5.04, I lose the Finder.Data icon locations (i.e. the
   system puts the icons back wherever it wants). Can I prevent this by locking
   any of the Finder droppings files (Finder.=)?

3. What does the Finder.Root file do (other than show up every time I run an
   app from the desktop)?

4. Is there some way to keep the Finder.Root file from disappearing when I
   run an app. from another volume, or shutdown from the finder menu (short
   of telling the finder to hide the Finder droppings?

5. Referring to # 1 above. If I can't make a patch, can I remove the rIcon
   resource (with a resource editor/compiler like Rez)?


                                wsquires@lonestar.utsa.edu
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Ramfast 2.01e to 3.0j Problems!!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:52:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Get a rom later than 3.0j -- it had some problems due to half-assed
floptical support that _might_ be responsible (I don't really know for
sure, but 3.0j is NOT safe to use with the floptical, anything later is
OK).

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Subject: aaarghh...DragWindow doesn't drag...
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:05:24 GMT


Hello Dave, Matt, Jay and all those other GS gurus!
 
I want to move windows to other places "manually", i.e. without using
taskmaster. The user has to select "Move Window...", the cursor becomes
a hand, and then he (or she) can walk with that window around. The
pseudocode looks like this:
...
_GetMouse
_LocalToGlobal
_DragWindow
...
I've noticed that this routine works only with titled windows, but I'd
like to apply this mechanism to windows without title bar. (Er, that's
why it's here...)
 
Any way out? Does DragWindow check the frame bits (BTW, fMove=1)?
 
What's going on? Thanks a ton for your reply!
 
henrik

-- 
Bright Software CH   gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch   Bright Software USA
P.O. Box 18          any demo: US$3.00              P.O. Box 120
4153 Reinach 2       info on GSymbolix, ShadowDial, Exeter, ME 04435-0120
Switzerland          Gate, SpaceFox, Mandelbrot     U.S.A.
From: prisoner@shakala.com (The Prisoner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Two Systems... One Hard Drive?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:24:20 PST
Organization: Shakala BBS (ClanZen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 408-734-2289

I have a Maxtor 130MB Hard Drive, and in one small partition, I'm trying 
to put System 5.0.4 on the last, small partition so I can run this one 
program (It's VERY Buggy, barely Stable, and will NOT run under System 6. 
At least it probably won't eat HD Partitions anymore. :)

When I try to launch System 5 from this, it runs System 6 from the boot 
Partition. Aeasy Ideas? I'm using this really Great Program Launcher from 
a good friend, so I hope I don't have to stop using it, but... I NEED to 
fix this problem so I can get this program running and get some work done 
by the end of next week (When the Job must be finished.)

Thanks in advance for ANY help.
-Kent

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From: meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy lee meekins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Western design chip
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:03:17 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <77476@apple.apple.COM> unknown@Apple.COM (Matt Ackeret) writes:
>In article <1jv04uINNn1t@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:
>>I read in the Feb. issue of A+/InCider that Western Design has a chip for the
>>GS, the W65C81PL-E, that will double the speed of the GS.  Is this on the
>>level?  Anyone have one that can confirm it really works?  How about the
>>cost?  Thanks!!
>
>More details please...  How would this theoretically double the speed of 
>the GS?  cut cycle counts of instructions in half? has an online cache??
>
>Anyway, is this counting if you already have a Zip, and/or will this
>hypothetical chip come in 15-20 MHz versions?

cut cycle counts? online cache? you're thinking too big Matt......

try this one instead...it doesn't get as hot and uses less power, so it
can use faster crystals....ahh, the easy answer's always prevail...
but, hey, it is fun to think big :)

and, yeah, it does require a TWGS/Zip, and it's about 12 MHz, not 15-20.

Tim "Now approaching 44 hours and I'm out of Mtn Dew :(" Meekins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jsimmons@cs.sunysb.edu (Jason Simmons)
Subject: Re: Need help with some text files
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:47:15 GMT

In article <1k3gulINNiuj@iraul1.ira.uka.de> voss@i40s16.ira.uka.de (Stefan
Voss) writes:
>In article <q63yXB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Herbert Fung) writes:
>|> Recently a friend (who uses a IBM Compatable) sent me some text files
>|> zipped. I after I unziped them on my GS I tried reading the files, but
>|> apparently something didn't come out right. It looks like all the carrage
>|> returns were turned into an unknown charater which was denoted with an
>|> inverted "?". What can I do besides manually changing all the inverted
>|> "?" manually. I really don't want to do this because there are at least 3
>|> megs of text files. Are there any programs out there that will do this
>|> for me? Thanks for any replies.
>|>  
>Probably, MS-DOS uses Newline characters (ASCII code $0A) as line terminators 
>(like UNIX) for text files. The normal line terminator on a GS is Carriage Return
>(ASCII code $0D) and fortunately you don't have change your files manually.
>I know 3 programs that do the work.
>- conv. An EXE file that is supplied with GNO/ME.
>- lf2cr. Exits in a EXE version and a NDA version.
>- vi. I think this editor can read both kinds of text files.
>

I think Soenke Behrens once released an EXE called udl which supported
conversion of MS-DOS text files, but I don't know where you could find
a copy.  If you are unsuccessful with conv or lf2cr, send me a copy of
one of the files and I'll try to modify lf2cr to do the job.

Jason Simmons
jsimmons@sbcs.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cory@wam.umd.edu (Cory Michael Lebson)
Subject: FTPable Screensaver/modem programs/print-screen for //gs?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:00:47 GMT

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone knows of anywhere that I can FTP public domain,
or shareware screensaver programs, modem programs, and a print-screen memory
resident program for the apple //gs.
Thanks
cory
cory@wam.umd.edu
From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: IBM version of Nulib 3.23 on cco.caltech.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:27:42 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

I couldn't find an IBM executable of nulib on the net, so I fiddled
around until I got it to compile with Borland C++.  It's up at cco
in pub/apple2/uploads, packed with PKZIP.  Should work with all PC clones.

Nulib is Andy McFadden's portable NuFX archiver, just the thing you
need when away from the Apple II.  The original source had support for
Microsoft C built-in, so there are minimal changes from 3.23.

I see 3.24 is online...I bet it added explicit Borland C++ support :/
Oh well :)

-- 
Dave Seah (seah@ee.rochester.edu, AFCDaveS@aol.com)
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!nighttripper@cactus.org (Joseph Litherland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple///
Date: 21 Jan 1993 02:27:38 -0600
Organization: The Texas Leprechaun BBS, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

What is the difference between an Apple // and Apple /// (or //GS for that
matter?
From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Procyon and Westcode..
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:15:22 GMT
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich

Could these two companies send me their e-mail address, or anyone else
pass them to me?

Tnx mucho,

henrik
-- 
Bright Software CH   gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch   Bright Software USA
P.O. Box 18          any demo: US$3.00              P.O. Box 120
4153 Reinach 2       info on GSymbolix, ShadowDial, Exeter, ME 04435-0120
Switzerland          Gate, SpaceFox, Mandelbrot     U.S.A.
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: suggestions to developer...
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:01:30 PST
Organization: BBS

Now that we have couple of programs that use :boot:system:preferences as the
folder for configuration files, could everyone keep their program's
config/prefer file in here?  Makes things easier...  IMO atleast.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
From: mills@MAX.EE.LSU.EDU (John Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MenuKey and TaskMaster
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:34:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Ref. Vol. 1?!? What version of GS/OS are you writing it for? If it's 5.04 and
later, Ref. Vol. 3 makes lots of corrections and enhancments. You might try
looking into Programmers Ref. for System 6 also. :)

  -- John M.

===================================
INet: mills@max.ee.lsu.edu (pref)
AOL: jmills (@aol.com)
GEnie: J.MILLS11
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MenuKey and TaskMaster
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:40:52 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

mills@MAX.EE.LSU.EDU (John Mills) writes:

>Ref. Vol. 1?!? What version of GS/OS are you writing it for? If it's 5.04 and
>later, Ref. Vol. 3 makes lots of corrections and enhancments. You might try
>looking into Programmers Ref. for System 6 also. :)

Vol 1/2 and Sys6Ref will do for now until I get get a copy of Vol 3. I did
find at least two errors in Vol 1/2 just while doing this one project, so
there muts be quite a few.

Volume 3 is not as thick and expensive, right?

>  -- John M.
 ______________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: GS+AFP Unix server
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:51:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.164316.29279@eskimo.com> lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel) writes:
>
>My apologies.. I did mean localtalk (which is a joke, I'm sorry)  I have
>NOT seen Ethertalk yet (though I intend to) and To

Joke it may be, but it lets me network my GS and my Mac for about $35.
Not to mention the fact that there are situations in which the speed
advantage of Ethernet simply isn't relevant.

-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProBOOT v5.1 (bugs)
Summary: Sorry... it's buggy!
Keywords: ProBOOT 5.1
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:22:47 GMT

I was notified by one of my testers that ProBOOT 5.1 (which I had already
posted on cba2) has a couple of bugs in it.  I tried to cancel the two
posts, but whoever set up nn here has it arranged so that my posts are
routed through another account somehow, and _that_ account has to do the
cancelling, so I can't do it.

So don't waste your time downloading ProBOOT 5.1 from
comp.binaries.apple2.  Version 5.1.1 (sigh) will be available within the
next couple of days.  Sorry!

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: kmccorm@access.digex.com (Kevin McCormick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: MORE 3.5" drive problems
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:00:47 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

I've received a few pieces of mail on my 3.5" drive... Most said that there was
a tension spring that needed adjusting.  So, I found it, behind the heads near
the back of the board and next to the stepper motor, and tightened it one
notch.  My drive promptly started to, believe it or not, gouge grooves in my
disks.  So I put the spring back where it was originally.  It STILL gouges
disks.

I did some more poking around and I noticed that the bottom head and the
little metal part around it is quite securely attached to the drive.  On top,
though. the head and its corresponding little metal part seem to be quite
loose.  Is it possible that the top part got dislodged, and is causing my
trouble?

Again, thanks to all that have helped me...

-- 
Kevin McCormick                           | "The more we try to control, the
kmccorm@access.digex.com                  |  less we are really in control."
IRC: Xenophon                             |        - Robert J. Oppenheimer
From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Wanted
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:40:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I was reading through January's issue of A+ and, specifically, the "Enriching
System 6" article.  They list (and review) quite a few Inits/DAs.  I was
wondering if anybody knows where, on the internet, I can get the following:
 
        Eye                     Finder Extension
        Ear                     Finder Extension
        File-a-Trix             CDA
        LotsaTools              INIT (assumed)
        ShowMe                  NDA
        Icon Application Checker
 
Thanky mucho.

-- 
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				 the wind blows.
			kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need help with some text files
Date: 29 Jan 93 03:04:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility


The following revelation escaped Herbert Fung's lips:
> 
> It looks like all the carrage returns were turned into an unknown
> charater which was denoted with an inverted "?".

    MS-DOS text files use a CRLF combination.  The usual methods of
converting between UNIX LF's and ProDOS CR's won't work in this case
(you'll just get double-spaced text).  There are a couple of utilities
available which change CRLF's and CR's.  I saw one small utility called
"The Stripper" which might do that sort of stuff.

--
== Real name: Brian Tao (Dept. of Exobiology, University of Toronto)
== Preferred: taob@r-node.pci.on.ca (no mail over 15K please!!!)
== Free Plug: =MuGS 2.0=, the only   """"""""""""""""""""""""""
==            Internet mail reader for the Apple IIGS, coming soon!
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: I'm sorry, my out going mail is bouncing.  Marc S.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 06:01:38 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

Marc, the tt.convert file was corrupted.  Could you pleqse send it 
again.          Thanks          Larry

larry@lablues.UUCP
FidoNet:  1:132/300 Larry Schneider

     / 7: "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann,  |  Larry Schneider
    /      darueber muss man schweigen."   |  Bright Software
   /                                       |  P. O. Box 120
  /         Ludwig Wittgenstein            |  Exeter, ME
 /     Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus      |       04435-0120
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From: pmichel@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Patrick Michel)
Subject: Quality Computers BBS
Organization: ProLine [pro-applejacks]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 10:55:44 CST

Has anyone tried this out?
Is the tech. support good? And are the file transfers kwik?
I'd call myself but it's long distance 'n' all.

                P. Michel
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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Free Net Dial Up Access
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:52:15 GMT


A couple of weeks ago, I asked a bunch of net questions, including "do you
know of any dial up free access numbers for Internet. Although many
responded to my questions, the free access dial ups were very few and far
between. Maybe I found out about 2 or 3 (aside from ProLine sites) and one
of those is located in the same town that I live in.

So, let me ask again...does anyone here know of any public access dial up
telephone numbers that could lead to partial or full Internet access?

If so, please send me the telephone numbers. Thanks!

Joe Kohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: GS+AFP Unix server
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:02:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.145729.24786@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert) writes:

[ ]
>
>Heh, boy did you step in it.  1) I work for a company that develops medical
>software for hospitals, ambulance services, nursing homes, private practices,
>etc.  When the software is written correctly, setting up a network of machines
>using TCP/IP is just as easy as any other.  Even if it weren't, these people
>require a consultant to come in and solve mundane problems anyway.  2) One of
>the reasons for writing TCP/IP for the IIgs is because in the next couple of
>years, you're going to see a lot more K-12 schools on the Internet.

The software has already been written, which is the point I was making. It
provides for printing, mail and server facilities and can coexist with 
TCP/IP based netwroks, which still largely use NFS. You might well consider
the hassles of mail, which is a mess at the moment. Start adding sound, graphicsand other non-ascii information and you are really into a mess of problems.
 
I was not, in any case, talking about medical software. I was referring to 
mainly research/teaching hospitals with a mix of computers. At the moment
the networks I have seen are somewhat difficult to use and to maintain. In
particular, their problems can't be dealt with by having the occasional
consultant dropping in.
 
I don't want to discourage you from writing TCP/IP for the GS. I'd like to
see it done, just as much as you'd like to finish it. But, there is no need
for it just to link into the Internet. Here's a simpler way. Use an Appletalk
based network and one Mac with Apple's new Internet Router software, which
converts TCP/IP to Appletalk and vice versa.
 
>Care to go another round?

As long as you wish. I may have to start reading the various Unix manuals 
though, as my network was set up without reading anything.
>
>I will admit that in many respects AppleTalk is better for smaller networks,
>but the trend is toward massive connectivity and WAN's.  That is the real
>world.

The point is how to link small networks, not have one big one using the same
unfriendly software. The solution exists now. It is largely Appletalk based,
and if you insist on TCP/IP, you simply use a (software) gateway.
 
Philip 
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Zen and the art of hitchhiking on motorcycles (was: failed posts)
Reply-To: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:47:18 GMT


In a previous article, jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell) says:

>I'm a bit confused. Zen and The Art of the Internet is a published book. I
>assume it is copyrighted. Yet, it is availabe via ftp and our help disk will
>sell photocopies. It is not copyrighted?

Before v2 was published, v1 was available for FTP in postscript or device-
independent format, and it still is. The second edition is not available via
ftp (or in electronic form). There are apparently significant differences
in the second edition, and the author feels that the first edition should
remain available.

The published text is presumably copyrighted, and you can't sell photocopies
of it.

-- 
Marc Sira                    |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca       |  "Your god drinks...p-p-peach nectar!"
aa382@freenet.carleton.ca    '

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