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From: Larry Israel <VSLARRY@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: Rabbi and Priest Jokes
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <Larry Israel <VSLARRY@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 18:22:15 GMT

Victor Miller claims that crossing a "yekke" and a "Lubavitcher" gives you
someone who is always exactly half an hour late. That depends on the sexes
of the two individuals. If you reverse them, you get a moshiach who comes
on time.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (David Kaufmann)
Subject: Re: Synagogue MUSIC
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-11947]: bourbon
Organization: E.E. Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:25:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.165440.21112@panix.com> bri@panix.com (Brian Shanblatt) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.200306.15164@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>>
>>This is a topic I care about. Does anyone know of a congrgation (O or C)
>>Rey Chabadniks sung to the tune of the French national anthem.  It
>>happened several times.
>>
>>David
>
>I think the piyut is "Lcahi Olamim."  I believe the Lubavitch
>began using this tune to honor Napoleon, who, as he was sweeping
>through Europe, he was "good" toward the Jews.  I am sure
>history mavens could fill us in on the details!
>
Actually, it was done to transform the evil of Napoleon. Rabbi Schneur
Zalman, founder of Chabad, adamantly opposed Napoleon, recognizing
that his "good" towards the Jews was evil and spiritually destructive.

>I have also heard one of the Roumanian Dances used to the Full
>Kaddish during Rosh Hashana.  I think it was with the Bostoner 
>Chassidim.
>
>There is a concept of taking an idea, a philosophy, or a "tune"
>from the secular culture, and making it "Kodesh" (Holy) and
>part of Judaism in some way.  Rambam wrote about the "truth"
>in the some of the secular philosphies.
>
>
This is the idea behind the co-opting of secular tunes.

David Kaufmann
INTERNET:	david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hem@warlock.col400.att.com (Hillel Markowitz)
Subject: Re: Feld brothers
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <hem@warlock.col400.att.com (Hillel Markowitz)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:11:40 GMT

In my last post, I asked a question from what I had seen in the
"Jerusalem Report" article.  This was an error, I should have typed the
"In Jerusalem" article.  My apologies to all.  The question however,
still stands.

____________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz    |     Im ain ani li mi li    |
| H_Markowitz@att.com | Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha |
|_____________________|____________________________|
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: "Jewish" Christmas Carol Hits
From: Yaakov Kayman <YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 16:16:52 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I guess not too many SCJers know that "(I'm dreaming of a) White Christmas"
was written by a Jew, Irving Berlin (ne Ballin(sp?)).

Ah Meilah! :-,

Yaakov K.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: schwartz@nynexst.com (Steven Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Hannuka as a minor holiday
Originator: schwartz@baba
Reply-To: schwartz@nynexst.com
Organization: Expert Systems Lab., NYNEX Sci. and Tech., White Plains NY
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:06:49 GMT



In article <199212231934.AA01362@yfn.ysu.edu>, aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller) writes:
> I believe the reason it's considered a "minor" holiday is NOT because it's
> not  "important", but because it's not mentioned in the Torah.

OR because no musaf (additional) sacrifices are offered,
and Jews do (did) not make pilgramages to Yerushalayim 
as they do (did) on the three major festivals.
I realize that this excludes Rosh haShanah and Yom Kippur,
but those are classified as "judgement days," not "festivals,"
in my book.  At most, they are days of "holy convocation."  
They are not "chagim."
-- 
Steven H. Schwartz		Expert Systems Laboratory
schwartz@nynexst.com		NYNEX Science and Technology Center
PROFS: SCHWARTZ@UNIX		500 Westchester Avenue
914-644-2960			White Plains NY 10604
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp)
Subject: Re: Re^2: Jewish Christmas Carol Hits
Organization: LA&W RR
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:09:58 GMT

In article <4352@novavax.UUCP> mitch@novavax.UUCP (Mitch Silverman) writes:

>ObKvetch:  While Landon was born a Jew (a cousin's spouse is related to
>him) he converted to Christianity.  According to my rabbi (who was
>teaching a course on halachah and Israeli law), the Law of Return
>won't accept such a convert as a Jew. 

I read that his father was Jewish, his mother Catholic, and he was
raised with both traditions.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: ACLU/AJC Menorah Police?
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:08:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.215319.29462@starbase.trincoll.edu> nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:

# In article <1992Dec21.210511.21577@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternl
# ight) writes:

# >I don't know if Norman Miller is aware of it, but there are now
# >large Menorahs all over Los Angeles--in public parks, shopping
# >centers, etc.  Most of them have been erected and are lit each
# >night by Chabad.

# >The danger is when the State does it, or when the State starts
# >picking and choosing among whose symbols are displayed,
# >or when symbols are used for evangelical, rather than commemorative
# >purposes. None of those apply to the Los Angeles situation.

# If they're in a public park then the state is obviously involved.
# There's the problem.

	But their taxes PAID for he public park also.  Should they not be
able to get something out of it (other than what you dictate they can
get out of it)?

	By the way, the next time your synagogue has swastikas painted on
it, do not call the police.  After all, you do not want to get the
state involved.
--
	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
at math and those that are not.

makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
From: sk4t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen D Kurtz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Kashrut Update
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:40:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0fBshM_00iV3847F9k
Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

This is an update concerning the posting a few days ago concering Ken's
Salad Dressings.

The posting from the Baltimore Vaad said that the Lite Honey Mustard
Vinigrette and the Spicy Italian Dressings had an UNauthorized O-U on
them.

This was of grave concern to me since I have both in my refrigerator.

I spoke with the Customer Service Dept. of Ken's Dressings and was told
the following.

1.  The Lite Honey Mustard dressing is kosher only if it has an
expiration date on the back AFTER 1 DEC 92.

2.  The Spicy Italian (my favorite) is kosher only if it has an
expiration date on the back AFTER 20 NOV 92.

Happy Salading,

Chag Samach,
  Steve
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Feld brothers update
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:38:16 GMT


Evelyn C. Leeper points out some of the many discrepancies between
the alleged Jerusalem Post article, and the alleged first-hand
anonymous messages posted here.

In addition, the alleged J.P. article repeats the claim of being
held in handcuffs, which those of us from California know is
absurd. When this nonsense was pointed out, the story was changed
in the discussion here to "held in handcuffs when they saw
visitors." That's still absurd, particularly if the visitors
were on the other side of a partition.

When I said I'd call the Rabbi who was cited, I was told here that he
wasn't returning any calls about this. Perhaps I'm not the first to
call and he knows it is a hoax. He has definitely not returned my
call yet--Chanukah is over, and today would be the day.

After reading the material I now think this is the hoax of the year.

Apologies to all concerned if I'm wrong.

David
-- 
David Sternlight
RIPEM Public Key on server  --  Consider it an envelope for your e-mail
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Chanuka sa-mei-ach?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 19:05:36 GMT
Organization: /usr/local/trn/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec22.180943.29943@netcom.com> horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen -- [408] 736-3923) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.161013.10974@linus.mitre.org> jls@mbunix.mitre.org (Segal) writes:
>>Assuming that sa-mei-ach is being used as a stative verb, we note that
>>Chanuka is a feminine noun!!
>>
>>Chanuka Sameiach can't be correct!! -- maybe se-mei-cha!
>
>Well, it's like this -- the "correct" greeting is `Chag Channukah Sameach',
>in which `Channukah' is used as an adjective modifying `chag' (which `chag'?
>`Channukah'). Thus, `sameach' is in gender-agreement with the subject,
>`chag'.

Good points raised, and shame on me for not noticing the gender
problem earlier (there is a possible explanation for using a
construction that appears to confuse gender, but it would be
a cop-out, so I'll skip it). But saying "Hag Hannukah sameiah"
doesn't do it for me because it still puts the emphasis on
the "dedication" part of the holiday. "Hag urim sameiah", on 
the other hand, puts the emphasis on the part of the holiday
which many of really enjoy--the Hannukiah.

"Your mileage may vary."
-- 
________________________________________
Jack F. Love	| 	Opinions expressed are mine alone.
		|	(Unless you happen to agree.)
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: jesus: where his remainders were at about 1900?
Date: 20 Dec 92 07:38:02 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1992Dec17.054957.24748@urartu.sdpa.org>
dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:

>In article <9212150438.AA16358@aplpy.jhuapl.edu> levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
>(Robert A. Levene) asks:
>
>[RAL] Vijay:
>[RAL]
>[RAL] Do you think Jesus would have believed the Muslim Turks
>[RAL] who claim that there was no Armenian genocide?
>
>The real question should be, if there was a Jesus,
>where was he during the genocide of the Armenians?
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Jesus was hunged somewhere at jerusalem area . and it makes sense
he was buried st that area too.
the regulation was to bury deads out of the city area, so jesus ,
namely his bones definitely was not in Jerusalem on the begining
of this century.

 The place some christians believe to be jesus's grave was found to be
within that-time-walls and hence is not his grave.

In case you picks there and find human bones, make a carbon check to
fix their time, and compare the skeleton features with those of
the human-group(s) jesus's father and mother belongsed to, you
will discover they do not belong to a person of the same group jesus
belongsand who died about 2000 years ago. Check his neck, hands and
legs bones and you will learn if that person was killed by any of the
hanging methods the Romans liked.

If the question of where jesus is burried will be still important to
you, it will be better if you will move to the pathology-archeology
forum.
From: friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: SCJ Gathering in Jerusalem (Dec 28th)
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:38:42 GMT
Reply-To: friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: maple.egr.msu.edu

In article <1992Dec22.115510.108@vms.huji.ac.il>, backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
|> S.C.J.ers in Israel will be meeting in Jerusalem at the OFF THE SQUARE
|> restaurant in Kikar Zion on Monday December 28th at 7 p.m.

It is near the intersection of Ben Yehuda and Jaffa Rds., near
the Underground (bar) etc.

We are eating at the Dairy restauraunt (Off the Square has a milchig and
a fleshig restauraunt right across the street from one another).

Meet us (Josh and I and others) just outside the restauraunt moments
before 7 (we might have a hard time finding one another inside,
since we have never seen one another).  We'll go in together at 7pm.
 
|> You're all invited to join us.
|> 
|> Josh
|> backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL


-- 

Gedaliah Friedenberg
-=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
-=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
-=-Michigan State University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Books on Judaism - Request for Repost
Supersedes: <92356.232910F66204@BARILVM.BITNET>
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:31:00 IST
From: Shaul Wallach <F66204@BARILVM.BITNET>

     Someone recently posted (either here or on t.p.m.) the names
of two or three introductory books on Judaism, one of which was
Herman Wouk's "This Is My God". Unofortunately, forgot to save
the article and can't find it now. Would the person who posted
it kindly send me a copy of the post by e-mail? Thanks very much
and Hanukka Sameah!

Shalom,

Shaul Wallach    <f66204@vm.biu.ac.il>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hem@warlock.col400.att.com (Hillel Markowitz)
Subject: Feld brothers
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <hem@warlock.col400.att.com (Hillel Markowitz)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:55:19 GMT

Am I just being paranoid or could the police be pushing the Feld case
because they are afraid of the false arrest suit they are subject to
if/when they admit their mistake.  Of course, it looks like the more
they push, the worse it will be for the police when they have to drop
the charges (especially with the treatment of the brothers as described
in the Jerusalem Report article.

Can the state/county be sued for the full legal expenses they have
forced the Felds to undergo?  Does California even have the money to
repay the Felds in the first place?
____________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz    |     Im ain ani li mi li    |
| H_Markowitz@att.com | Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha |
|_____________________|____________________________|

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: Jewish Christmas Carol Hits
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:03:06 GMT

jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:

> Well, this one looks like fun! The biggest Xmas song by a Jew
> has to be White Christmas, written by Irving Berlin even if
> sung by Bing Crosby

And let's not forget his other major sectarian hit, Easter Bonnet.

-Don Gertler
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Re: The Jewish nose myth
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:46:52 GMT

rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz) writes: >
saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes: >>
madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes: >  >
saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes: >  >>
EXTDSM@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MADDISON,David) writes: >  >>>
>
>   >>>I already posted this on Oct 14, 1992 but the nose thread seems to have come 
>   >>>up again in a big way so here is a rehash of what I posted before. This may be
>   >>>of help.
>
>   >>Instead of "nose thread," shouldn't that be "nose hair"?
>
>   >I smell a flamefight coming.  Better keep your nose out of this.
>
>>   And how can you be so sure?  Do you have some secret prognosticating
>>   abilities?  Maybe you read it in Nostril-damus?
>
>Sam, you're going schnozz to schnozz with a professional here...

Oh, go ahead and snout it out.  

-- 
Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

Centigram Communications Corp, San Jose California  408/428-3553
From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: antisemitism in action
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:58:03 +0100
Organization: "The Private Site of Manfredo Tichauer"

ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:

> In article <531@owl.ukc.ac.uk> dat@ukc.ac.uk (D.A.Turner) writes:

> >David Turner
> >(A British Jew who does NOT support Israel)
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> "Just a racist may say that just a gentile may be an anti-Semite "
>                                                             M.Y. Self
> 

I didn't know that the members of Neturei Karta, Atra Kadisha, and all
other Jewish antizionist groups are also antisemites. Every second day
I learn something new from "some" Jews in s.c.j. ;-)

Manfredo , a zionist still living in the Gola
From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish Christmas Carol Hits
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:50:08
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
	<1992Dec23.220540.15417@netcom.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soldan.aero.org
In-reply-to: strnlght@netcom.com's message of Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:05:40 GMT

On Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:05:40 GMT, strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) said:
> Peter, Paul, and Mary (are any of them Jewish?) did a Christmas show
> containing Chanukah songs as well. Both sets of material were very
> movingly arranged and performed.

Paul is an evangelical and records evangelical songs with a separate group. I
don't know about Mary. Peter is Jewish; I believe Light One Candle was
recorded from a trip to Israel. They have also done Dodi Li; it is on one of
their recent albums. Light One Candle is specifically for Hanukkah; the words
are as follows:


Light one candle for the Maccabee children, with thanks that their light
  didn't die.
Light one candle for the pain they endured, when their right to exist was
  denied. 
Light one candle for the terrible sacrifice Justice and Freedom demand, and
Light one candle for the wisdom to know when the peacemakers time is at hand.

  (refrain)
  Don't let the light go out, it's lasted for so many years.
  Don't let the light go out, let it shine through our love and our tears.

Light one candle for the strength that we need, to never become our own foe.
Light one candle for those who are suffering, pain we learned so long ago.
Light one candle, for all we believe in, let anger not tear us apart, and
Light one candle, to bind us together, with peace as the song in our hearts.

  (refrain)

What is the memory, that's valued so highly, that we keep it alive in that 
  flame?
What's a commitment, to those who have died, when we cry out they've not 
  died in vain?
We have come this far, always believing, that Justice will somehow prevail.
This is our burden! This is our promise! This is why we will not fail!

  (refrain)

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Kahane's philosophy
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:31:58 GMT

In <1992Dec18.012721.23664@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

me: If an action was objectionable when Jews were the recipient, it
me: remains objectionable if another ethnic group is, with Jews those
me: doing it.  Since I agree neither to the expulsion/disenfranchisement
me: of Israeli citizens based on their religion/ethnicity, nor to the
me: disbandment of the Jewish State, I prefer other solutions.

> I prefer other solutions also.  Unfortunately, they don't exist.

Were I convinced of this, I would have stayed in the US.
-- 
/|/-\/-\          "If there really was a Jewish conspiracy to run the
 |__/__/_/        world, my rabbi would have let me in on it by now.
 |warren@         I contribute enough to the shule."
/ nysernet.org 			    Saul Goodman
From: VINER%BGUVM.bitnet@VM.TAU.AC.IL (Dov Winer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Weizmann League Major Winter Event
Date: 29 Dec 1992 22:48:22 -0600
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer-Sheva, Israel
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X-Unparseable-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:47:57 IST

<{

AMERICAN COMMITTEE FOR
THE WEIZMANN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE
51 Madison Avenue
New York, NY  10010

WEIZMANN LEAGUE, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, ANNOUNCE MAJOR WINTER EVENT

NEW YORK, N.Y., Dec. 21, 1993...The Weizmann League -- young
professionals in the Tri-State Metropolitan area dedicated to
promoting and supporting the Weizmann Institute of Science -- will
host an evening of cocktails, dinner, and dancing at the new Liberty
Science Center in Liberty State Park, N.J., on New York Harbor, it
was announced today by Co-Chairs Howard Balley, Dr. David Berman,
Cathy Hershcopf and Andrea Perlman. The event will take place Saturday
evening, January 30, 1993, from
9:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m.

Liberty Science Center will have opened,
officially, on January 24. Liberty Science Center, located less than
three miles from the Holland Tunnel, provides breathtaking views of
the Manhattan Skyline and the Statue of Liberty.  Containing over
60,000 square feet of display space on four floors, the Science
Center offers more than 250 engaging, 'hands on' exhibits, from a
MicroZoo with exotic insects to a Touch Tunnel.

Continuous complimentary ferry service will be available from
Manhattan.

The Weizmann League Chariman is Lori A. Feinberg.  Erica J. Stein and
Clifford M. Wolf are Vice-Chairmen.

The Weizmann Institute of Science, located in Rehovot, Israel, is a
world-renowned center of scientific research and graduate studies.
Its 2,300 scientists, students, technicians, engineers and support
staff are responsible for innovative basic research and also play
leading roles in the fight against disease, the resolution of
environmental problems, and the search for alternative sources of
energy, among many other pioneering enterprises.

Tickets are $150 per person for general admission and dinner, $500
per person for patrons.  Sneakers are recommended for this casual
evening. For further information contact Joan Paru, Director of the
Weizmann League-- (212) 779-2500.

kAron T. Morgulis" <aron@acwis.org>,
"Aron T. Morgulis" <admwi@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
 Dir. MIS ACWIS (212) 779-2500   51 Madison Ave., Mezz. NYC 10010
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Dov Winer
Ben Gurion University
Internet : viner at bguvm.bgu.ac.il
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