From: forghani@condor.ccrit.doc.ca (B. Forghani (Idacom/HP))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Babak's Reply [sci-poster]
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:00:28 GMT
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Babak Sehari writes:

>Moreover, all the government employees are the servants of the people,
>and should be supervised by the people's representatives.

People in charge of the government in Iran are serving nobody except
themselves. They do not definitely represent people of Iran. IRI regime is a
dictatorship and the media in Iran is highly censored. The regime not only
does not let its opposition to participate in the elections but it also
prosecutes and executes anybody who disagrees with them openly. Without
freedom and real elections in which the opposition can participate they can
not claim that they represent people of Iran. Of course, I am sure that you
know these facts very well.

>And speaking of the violence, everyone knows who planted so many bombs
>in Iran streets, schools, markets. Everyone, knows who burnt Iranian
>businesses.

This rhetorical argument does not work very well. I am myself against the MKO.
In fact, IRI borrowed much of their ideology, slogans and philosophy from the
MKO. The struggle between IRI and MKO is purely about who gains the power
in Iran and MKO also dreams to lower our civilization to an Umma. Moreover,
if Mojahedin are bad (which is just my personal opinion) it does not imply that
IRI is any good. The regime that you are appologizing for has a history
of arsane and terror to discredit Shah's regime further than what they
deserved. They are the people who set the Rex cinema in Abadan on fire. BTW,
I am not in favor of the Shah's regime either.

>you start shouting that we are being insulted!? Look at
>your own article, I just outline a few insults you just included with your
>article.

There is a difference between opposing people who work for a government (well
I admit that I insulted the people who are in charge of the government in Iran)
in an abstract way and using profanity, sexual slurs and ****personal****
attacks directed to ***individuals*** like when you talk about Vaseline and
people's sisters and so on in reply to their article. I am not gonna resent
attacking IRI, KKK and other dogmatic system of thoughts and describe what
I think about them and what they stand for even if these terms in another
context are considered to be insults. The key point is how much of it is
personal attacks specially sexual remarks or remarks about the appearance
of somebody when these people have never met.

Also, to point out your last mistake, I did not post using anonymous posting
and used the direct email posting. I can completely understand why people
might want to use anonymous posting and I am just trying to show your
mistake. Your fear of anonymous posting shows your lack of slef-confidence and
security.

P.S. to all SCI'ers
pcplus terminal emulation program sucks and is the worst way to edit a file
using a modem.

Behdad Forghani
behdad@idacom.hp.com
 
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