HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: str@maredsous.Eng.Sun.COM (Todd Rader)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Is William Baldwin Alec Baldwin's brother?
Date: 23 Jul 1992 21:03:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: str@maredsous.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: maredsous
Keywords: what keywords?

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but due to the ungodly volume in this group I
rarely get to read the stuff.

Is William Baldwin (recently in _Backdraft_) related to Alec Baldwin?
There certainly are a lot of similarities in expressions, body language,
etc.  Please email, work prohibits me from keeping up with this group (I'll
give it a shot, though).  If anybody else wants the answer just email
me and I'll pass along any info I have received and/or summarize, depending
on the preference of the requestor.  Thanks.

-todd
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: james bond trivia
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:14:22 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

PI>came out cira 1978 (approximately), and before the movie "Never Say Never
PI>Again" cira 1985 (approximately) with Sean Connery.  He says that NSNA came o
PI>in the 1960-1970's, BEFORE "Moonraker".  We have twenty dollars riding on thi

     Leonard Maltin's Video Movie Guide lists the release date of
     "Never Say Never Again" as 1983.

     Your hubby owes you twenty buckeroos!  :)
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Je suis Marxiste, tendence Groucho.
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: yuan1@husc9.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: COOL WORLD is uncool
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:28:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc9.yuan1.712265338

PNCSPPC@CCVAX1.CC.NCSU.EDU (Phil Calvert) writes:

>I just saw this movie last night and I feel compelled to post this warning.
>This is a pretty poor movie.  There were five people in our group and all of
>us felt that it was a waste of our time and money.  It might be entertaining
>to teenagers because the cartoon characters' preoccupation with sex and the
>gratuitous use of foul language (in a feeble attempt to be humorous).
>However, I think most mature adults will be disappointed.

Don't underestimate teenagers!  My cousins and I were disappointed with it too.
At least we went to an afternoon show, and didn't pay full price.  :-)

-nhy
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nina H. Yuan                               "It's a miracle that curiosity
nina@panix.com                              survives formal education."
yuan1@husc.harvard.edu                                  - Albert Einstein
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.tv
From: virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (curious vIRgO)
Subject: Whatever happened to: Saundra Santiago?? Miami Vice fame??
Organization: Metters Industries, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:42:19 GMT


Saundra Santiago...remember her?? She played Gina on Miami Vice. She and
Olivia Brown (who played Trudy and who both gave me VERY good reasons to
want to commit some *crime* in Dade County) were good in the series(personally,
I would've done the series around THEM,but that's another story). I was
wondering if Saundra was doing other things since the show has ended(I've
seen Olivia in "Designing Women" and a few other things, so I know she's
working...which is great). Any e-mail or a post with any movies/tv episodes
would be GREATLY appreciated (and archived).

curious virgo
-- 

Paul "Axel" Virgo
Metters Industries
Arlington, VA 22202
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Boomerang
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:03:50 GMT

In article <IeRfOW200WBKA1KTFj@andrew.cmu.edu> Christine Hogan <ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Boomerang is easily Eddie Murphy's funniest movie of all time.  This is
>one of those rare comedies that is funny frome beginning to end(save a
>few serious moments).  Perhaps the reviewers who bashed it have a
>problem with Eddie this time because he's not running around with a
>bunch of white men.

I had a problem with "Boomerang" because I didn't laugh very much.  I have
a hard time enjoying comedies that don't make me laugh.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals - Man of La Mancha
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:00:33 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Man of La Mancha is one of the very few films that I've walked out of. What a
ghastly production!

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"TV dinner by the pool -- I'm so glad I finished school." -- Frank Zappa
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Prelude to a Kiss is the best! (NOT!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:42:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.230208.6909@athena.cs.uga.edu>, jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.150628.19165@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
> >Well, there's also the "action" factor.  Some folks liked T2 solely for
> >the SFX, or action, some for the human interactions, etc., etc..  Me,

[....]

> 
> Sorry to post on this movie twice, but I just HAVE to...

This is doubtful.

> 
> No, no, no, no, no!  You can't say that the only reason not to like Prelude
> to a Kiss (not a big-time movie critic) is because it's not an action
> picture.  That verges on being condescending and insulting to all of us who
> HATED the picture, just because it's a bad movie.  (I can give you a signed
> affadavit from my friend saying that she hated the movie as much as I did,
> and she is a BIG fan of Meg Ryan and she hates action/adventure types.)

[....]

> No, the movie didn't need explosions and chase scenes.  It needed dialogue
> that actually went somewhere, romantic scenes that were actually romantic and
> not just annoying, some characters who had some depth and likability, and  on
> the whole just a basic reason for existing as a work of art.  You're going
> to need to come up with a better response than just saying we didn't like it
> because we're mindless summer movie fanatics.

It never ceases to amaze me how people seem to love to argue regardless of
whether there is a point to be made and how jerky the knees get.

Reread my post and see that I said that there is "also the 'action' factor".
That doesn't translate into a slam against your personal intelligence
unless you want it to.  But that's not my problem.  And I believe you
about your friend.  And I respect your right not to like the movie
for any reason you like.  And I could very well say that the only reason
not to like Prelude to a Kiss is because it's not an action picture.
But I'd be wrong.  But then again, I didn't say that, did I?  So I'm
not.

You didn't like it, and I can't argue with that.  I can only conjecture
as to the possible reasons, but I will not claim that any reason I can
come up with is necessarily yours.  You are, among all the people on the
planet, the sole, unassailable expert as to your personal preferences.

However, whether one likes this movie or not is not a reliable indicator
of whether it is a "good" movie.

GMS
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Bill Forsyth and Housekeeping
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:38:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.105613.13978@husc3.harvard.edu>, fenick1@husc10.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick) writes...

} I know it's out on video too, because I've recently been on a Bill
} Forsyth hunt - a largely unsucessful one, because the real point of
} my search is _Comfort and Joy_ which I can't find anywhere. Does
} anyone know if it's out or not?  Should I just stop calling places? 

It *was* released on video at some point, certainly. I have a pre-recorded
Betamax copy that I bought used. It's probably out of print by now, but
some places may still have copies for rent.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: jartz@bassoon.mitre.org (John Artz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:06:25 GMT
Reply-To: jartz@mitre.org
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va


 
In article <1992Jul21.130421.17670@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness) writes:
|> Can anyone refresh my memory - it's been a while since
|> I last watched Stanley Kubrick's classic, and I can't
|> exactly remember what music was used in what scenes.
|> All I remember is that the William Tell overture finale
|> was used in the hyper-fast scene. If anyone remembers
|> the soundtrack details, please reply. Thanks.
|> 
|> ------
|> Matt. 

The fourth movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 was the 
most memorable music from the movie.





						John M. Artz, Ph.D.

						jartz@mitre.org

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A crisis is just the end of an illusion. -- Gerald Weinberg
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: csculha@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Candace S. Culhane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Feminist Perspective of Batman Returns
Summary: I liked it
Keywords: Batman, feminist, SPOILERS
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:56:44 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The Great Beyond

I have enjoyed this particular thread of BATMAN RETURNS more than some of
the other BR threads.  But unless I've counted wrong, a (large) majority 
of the people posting to this "Feminist Perspective" of BR
have been men.  Where are the 'feminists' who are giving us their
perspective, may I ask?

I just saw BATMAN RETURNS this afternoon, after weeks of reading about it
in the paper and here on the net.  I went with my husband.  I enjoyed the
movie (although I would rate BATMAN as just a little bit better).  My
husband hated it, and would have walked out if he hadn't attended with
someone who wanted to see all of it.

I agree that CatWoman was psychotic.  I also agree with the comment about
the robot telephone ad.  I think Selina really lost it when she heard
that the ad endorsed Schrecks (!)  [By the way, I'm not going to give
a 'feminist perspective' myself because a) I don't want to analyze the
movie that much, and b) I don't consider myself a 'feminist', whatever
that title actually describes these days.]  What I found the most
interesting was the end of the film when Selina says she can't live with
herself (her split self?)  Batman hasn't even questioned whether or not
he can live with himself.  He simply does it.  Okay, so he always seems
to be brooding alot (except when he was romancing Vicki and Selina) and
he's very committed to what he does.  Anyway, what I saw at the end of
the film was one split personality who was carrying on, and one who
wasn't.  Or wasn't she?  In the end, it's quite clear that CatWoman has
endured.  Perhaps she just can't maintain Selina, CatWoman, and being
with Bruce in his mansion 'happily ever after.'

By the way, at the risk of getting flamed, I was moved by Batman's
plea to CatWoman/Selina when he revealed himself.  And this scene most
incensed my husband, who said that the comic book Batman would NEVER
have done such a thing, especially in front of Schreck.  My husband's
probably right.  But movie wise, that scene improved the movie for me.

One more comment - for the people who have said that BATMAN RETURNS
doesn't have a plot - well, I thought it had a storyline thread, and
it moved along.  Did I only imagine there was a plot?  Or do other
people have to be spoon fed plots in order to recognize them?  

Oh, and yes, there were plenty of gapping holes in the plot, like
how did CatWoman become a gymnast and martial arts specialist, how
did a bunch of circus freaks learn to re-engineer the bat mobile, etc.
I'm not saying the movie was perfect - few movies are - but after seeing
the movie, I'm amazed at the level of the incensed response from some
of the people posting to this newsgroup.
-- 
Dedicated to stamping out useless waste of bandwidth.
From: CS.ColoState.EDU!lagman@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Bill Forsyth and Comfort and Joy (was Housekeeping)
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:34:00 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <1992Jul20.105613.13978@husc3.harvard.edu> 
fenick1@husc10.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick) writes:

> I know it's out on video too, because I've recently been on a Bill
>Forsyth hunt - a largely unsucessful one, because the real point of my 
search
>is _Comfort and Joy_ which I can't find anywhere.  Does anyone know if it's
>out or not?  Should I just stop calling places? 

 If you're willing to spend for it, you might consider renting
 from Home Film Festival.  They charge a membership fee and higher
 than normal rental rates, but they do have Comfort and Joy, 
 Housekeeping, and the even more obscure That Sinking Feeling.
 The phone number is 1-800-258-3456.

 Hope this helps.

 annette
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (The Jack Elmo Society Black Book)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: Okefenokee Glee and Purloo Union
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:56:29 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul23.070137.23438@athena.mit.edu>, wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley) writes:
> In article <1992Jul22.170407.24310@walter.bellcore.com>
> tedk@jpl.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ted Ko) writes:
> 
>>I think that's the first time I've heard anyone say they really disliked T2.
>>Personally, I put it in my top ten of all time.  What about it was so bad
>>that it deserves comparison with Highlander 2?
> 
> Hear it again:  I really disliked T2.
> 
> It was an action-adventure movie for children.
> 
	Ha!  You fell for it!  Here's the real scoop:  James Cameron wrote and
directed a summer release movie that actually has substance, and he was so
successful at it that almost everyone didn't realize what they were seeing.
	Folks, T2 is a classic-form tragedy.
	The tragic hero:  Arnie, who dies because of his tragic flaw; he's not
human.
	The Greek Chorus:  Those [admittedly inane] voiceovers by Linda
Hamilton.
	Thematic climax in Act 3:  Sarah refuses to kill the scientist.
	Dramatic climax in Act 5:  Destruction of the villain and death of the
hero.
	And the theme:  Killing humans is morally wrong.  This can clearly be
seen in John's instructions to the T-101, the thematic climax, and the fact
that only the villain kills anyone after the thematic climax.
	If William Shakespeare had a $100 million budget and computer-aided
graphics, Hamlet might well have turned out very much like Terminator 2.

	Side note for SF nitpickers:  Of course Terminator 2 didn't address any
of the time travel paradoxes.  It wasn't _about_ time travel.  
-- 
"From Hell's heart, I stab at thee.  For Hate's sake, 
I spit my last breath at thee, thou damned whale!"
--Herman Melville, _Moby Dick_

elmo (morrow@fnal.fnal.gov,morrow@physics.rice.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Cronenberg's Crimes of the Future
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:46:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.103156.19822@abo.fi> KJOHNSSON@finabo.abo.fi (Kim-Erik Johnsson INF) writes:
>
>Anybody know anything about an early David Cronenberg film called Crimes of the
>Future?!?
>

I believe it was either one of the shorts he did while in college or one
of the ones he did just after graduation.  I just happen to have the
David Cronenberg issue of Cinefantastique sitting on my desk at home
so I'll check.


--
McCreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com     Computers are like Old Testament gods;
Me? Speak for Compaq?  Yeah, right.   lots of rules and no mercy.
"By this time my lungs were aching for air..."               Joseph Campbell
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson)
Subject: Re: Movie Musicals
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Surrey, British Columbia, CANADA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:48:27 GMT

In a recent rec.arts.movies article, wkm1@nestor.uucp (24102-messer) wrote:
>
>Other great movie musicals, IMHO:
>
>Seven Brides for Seven Brothers:  Songs you find yourself humming
>along with, and the scenery ain't bad, either..
>
*And* the dancing at the barn-raising scene is worth the price of
admission. Ooo-ah!

Marcy

-- 

Marcy Thompson		
  SoftQuad (West)			
    marcy@sq.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se (Marten.Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi: Filmography
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:04:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.094408.783@ifi.unizh.ch> hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner) writes:
>
                         <...>
>
>Ebony Tower, The (TV)
>(????)
>Scacchi, Greta (acs)
>
                         <...>
>

'The Ebony Tower' is about an artist, living in this tower, and his two models,
played by Greta Scacchi and former pop star Toyah Willcox. Swedish television
showed it a few years ago, but I don't remember who directed or the exact year.

--
>>>>----Marten Sahlen, Ericsson Telecom AB, S-161 25 Stockholm, Sweden----<<<<
>>>----------Phone: +46 8 7273849, Email: etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se----------<<<
>>----------------- "An apple a day keeps the doctor away, -----------------<<
>------ an orgasm a day keeps the psychiatrist away" - Dusan Makavejev ------<
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:23183 alt.cult-movies:6336
From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Gus Van Sant
Date: 25 Jul 1992 00:52:42 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

Gus Van Sant also directed a short called "The Discipline of D.E.," based 
on a William S. Burroughs story. 

He also directed the Red Hot Chili Peppers video "Under the Bridge."

The latest news is that he's working on an adaptation of Tom Robbins' novel
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues

--Peter M.

Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:23101 rec.games.trivia:2663 bit.listserv.cinema-l:5505
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 11:39:48 CDT
From: <U15289@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.games.trivia,bit.listserv.cinema-l
Subject: Film Trivia Quiz Answers: The Actornet, Part 3

C--Q--T--X--M--V--U--H--Y--L
      |
      N--E           F--O
      |                 |
      I                 B--R
      |                    |
   D--P--S--W--A--Z--K--J--G

C. _The Rachel Papers_-Ione Skye-Q. _Say Anything_-John Cusack-T. _The Sure
Thing_-Nicollette Sheridan-X. _Noises Off_-Michael Caine-M. _Hurry Sundown_
-Jane Fonda-V. _Tall Story_-Anthony Perkins-U. _Psycho_-Martin Balsam-
H. _12 Angry Men_-Henry Fonda-Y. _The Best Man_-Kevin McCarthy-L. _Invasion of
the Body Snatchers_

T-Daphne Zuniga-N. _Spaceballs_-John Candy-I. _Uncle Buck_-Amy Madigan-
P. _Streets of Fire_

N-Mel Brooks-E. _High Anxiety_

D. _Eddie and the Cruisers_-Michael Pare-P-Amy Madigan-S. _Field of Dreams_-
Kevin Costner-W. _Dances With Wolves_-Mary McDonnell-A. _Grand Canyon_
-Kevin Kline-Z. _The Big Chill_-Glenn Close-K. _Fatal Attraction_-Michael
Douglas-J. _It's My Turn_-Jill Clayburgh-G. _An Unmarried Woman_-Alan Bates-
R. _King of Hearts_-Genevieve Bujold-B. _Tightrope_-Clint Eastwood-
O. _Every Which Way But Loose_-Ruth Gordon-F. _Harold and Maude_

(In response to inquiries:  McCarthy played presidential candidate Fonda's
brother/campaign manager in _Best Man_, and both starred in the original _Body
Snatchers_ and had a cameo role in the remake.  Fonda starred as the holdout
juror in _Men_.)

SCORING:  One point for each of the 21 answers not already supplied (which
C, D, E, F, and L were).  Congrats to contestants Ron Tooker and Bob Crawford,
both of whom racked up perfect scores.

                                               Mitch Pravatiner
                                               U15289@uicvm.uic.edu
From: chaput@ils.nwu.edu (Cliff Chaput)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:42:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: ils.1992Jul23.154241.15484
Organization: Institute of Learning Sciences, Northwestern University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <5597@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> Markus Stumptner,
mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at writes:
>> Yikes, did he/it/she/whatever have a sex change operation?!?!?!
>> Walter Carlos. Geeeeeesh!!!! Egaad!!!! Oooooooh!
>
>What're you going to do, now?  Burn all his/her albums?  Only touch
>them with rubber gloves? Have them exorcised?  Sheesh.
>

Oh, chill.  You have to admit getting a sex change operation, even for
the most open minded, is certainly not the norm.  And when going from
male to female (as in this case), it can provoke some primal empathetic
reactions (e.g. Geeeeeesh!!!! and Oooooooh!).

Anyway, back to the subject, yes, he is now a she.  In fact, I just saw
Ms. Carlos in a Nova special about music, talking about her pioneering
efforts in the realm of synthesized music.  Does anybody know if she
did any other film soundtracks?

Cliff Chaput                   | "The scribes on all the people shove
Institute of Learning Sciences |  and bawl alliegence to the state.
Northwestern University        |  But those who love the greater love
chaput@ils.nwu.edu             |  lay down thier lives; they do not hate"
From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: neuromancer & jim cam
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:28:16 EST
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:

SB>Here's an unsubstanciated rumor I'd like to have confirmed/denied:
SB>(well,... preferably confirmed...;-)

SB>Someone told me that he had read on alt.cyberpunk, that Jim Cameron
SB>had done some early shooting for a filmatization of "Neuromancer" with
SB>Peter Gabriel as Case (isn't he a bit old for that part...?).

Yeah, I'm almost through the book, and I think he's too old also.
Fortunately (or unfortunately) I keep picturing Christen 'Jack' Slater
as Case... has to be someone that can be nerdy but still not necessarily 
a 'wimp'. 

SB>BTW Notice that I managed to finish the article without expressing how
SB>much I would like to see Linda Hamilton as Molly... ;-)

She would be great for Molly, but if they were to use Christen,
she'd be too old for him,I hope...
 _________________________________________________________________________ 
|0 ___ ___  ____  ____  ____                                             0|\
|   \ \//    ||    ||    ||                James Kewageshig               |\|
|   _\//_   _||_  _||_  _||_      UUCP: james.kewageshig@canrem.uucp      |\|
|   N E T W E R K    V I I I    INET: james.kewageshig%canrem@lsuc.on.ca  |\|
|0_______________________________________________________________________0|\|
 \_________________________________________________________________________\|
---
  DeLuxe 1.25 #8086  Head of Co*& XV$# Hi This is a signature virus. Co
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044