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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese names & Finnish names
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:20:29 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Bulgarian is a Turkic tongue, as far as last week's lecture on Japanese
linguistics went.  The steppe does extend geographically and culturally into
Bulgaria.  On the other hand, since just about every town in Eastern Europe
speaks a different language, there could be dozens of Bulgarian languages
each belonging to separate language classes, with interactions between 
every single dialect reflecting historically pulsating borders & 
12-dimensional political/economic interactions.  America was headed in this
direction until modern communications like radio, telephone, & TV helped
enforce the standard Indiana/Arizona dialect.  Otherwise, if the Confederacy
had won the civil war, and Alexander Graham Bell's AT&T venture never succeded,
we could just as well be a continent of 50 republics.  The confederacy 
advocated among other things state autonomy.  Bell's AT&T venture created a
monopoly by suffocating local telephone start-ups.  A confederate government 
would probably have created more barriers to interstate commerce, preventing
national monopolies.  There could have been more spectacular regional wars
like California vs. Inland states, New England vs. Midwest.  Then, Perry
would never have sailed for Japan, and Japan would continue to be the 
prefectural confederacy that it was in essence before the Meiji Restoration.
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: a woman's ankle?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:31:56 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu
Keywords: elephantitis-ankles to dikon ashi DAME

tnt@netcom.com (Terry Turner) writes:

  >first do men really spend time talking about women's ankles? and if so
  >what is it supposed to tell one about them?

Yes, men do think about a woman's ankles. To begin, I can classify a 
woman's ankle into one of 5 categories:

      1) Big and bony 
      2) Small and bony
      3) Standard
      4) Pudgy
      5) Elephantitis

A woman has category (1) ankles if from the back, her ankle width
appears to exceed 125% of the width of the lower width of her shin bone
just above the ankle.  A woman has category (2) ankles if has absolutely
no meat on her ankles (e.g. anorexics) and her ankle with is less than
115% of the tibia width.  A standard ankle is one which fall in between
categories (1) and (2).  A cat(4) ankle is one where from the front or
side, you can see a slight dulap of adipose tissue bluging, especially
at the crease at the front where the foot pivots a lot.  A cat(5) ankle
...well, the name explains it all. :-)

A lady's ankle by itself doesn't provide much information about her
personality or compatibility unless one has an ankle fetish. However,
I've found ankle observation in Tokyo to be helpful in determining 
age of women in the mysterious years greater than 24, but less than 35.
It's sometimes hard to tell how old a lady is and embarassing to ask
whether she just a little bit past "Xmas Keki" or a lot past. This is
especially true if her face and hand have been well preserved.  (BTW,
never ask a Japanese Lady her age.)  Ankles are not an absolute indicator,
but in conjuction with other factors they can help identify age. Most
women have cat(3) ankles between the ages of 16 to 28.  During the 
late twenties and early thirties, most ankles start heading toward
cat(4).  This may not be apparent on thinner people, but then facial 
wrinkles will be more evident because thin people have less fat under
the skin.  But for the average Oriental gal, small dulaps start forming 
during the late twenties. The best chance to observe is when she's wearing
white pantyhose and a snug fitting pumps.  Cat(1),(2),and(5) are usually
hereditary and doesn't say anything.

Jaa, James
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From: ksbeh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Tere K.S. BEH)
Subject: Happy new year !!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:35:37 GMT

Wish everybody a happy and prosperous Chinese New Year !!


 A k e m a s h i t e    

 	O m e d e t o u
		
		G o z a i m a s u !!!



Terence KS Beh 

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From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Request: Review of "Rising Sun" by George Will
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:14:46 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

Hello. I a few weeks ago I read a review of "Rising Sun" by George Will.
I cannot remember who posted it, but whoever it was, I would appreciate
him/her to send it to my email addres. Thank you.

yeownook@hardy.u.washington.edu

thanks again!
From: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: a woman's ankle?
Keywords: elephantitis-ankles to dikon ashi DAME
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:36:15 GMT
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporate R&D H.Q.- R&D Support Dept.

In article <1jniqc$psh@agate.berkeley.edu>, jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU
(James C. Liu) writes:
|> tnt@netcom.com (Terry Turner) writes:
|> 
|>   >first do men really spend time talking about women's ankles? and if so
|>   >what is it supposed to tell one about them?
|> 
|> Yes, men do think about a woman's ankles. To begin, I can classify a 
|> woman's ankle into one of 5 categories:
|> 
|>       1) Big and bony 
|>       2) Small and bony
|>       3) Standard
|>       4) Pudgy
|>       5) Elephantitis

	Well, I wouldn't exactly go so far as to say that (Japanese) men
think about a woman's ankles.  It's more like, how could you NOT notice?
In Japan, we do ALOT of walking...to the station, to the company, to the
store, to the post office, etc. etc.,..not necessarily the "get in your 
car and drive to the office" kind of setting.  Of course, walking alone
doesn't make you notice women's ankle's.  It is more common for Japanese
women to wear dresses or skirts, even though slacks and jeans are
quite popular. So, when you do alot of walking in a semi-crowded area,
which includes most habitable areas of Japan, and most of the women are 
wearing dresses or skirts, you tend to notice whether you want to or not.  
	Another idea that came to mind was something that my sister
noticed first.  Until moving to Japan, I never even noticed or thought 
about women's ankle's.  That was until my sister said, "Niichan, Japanese 
girls don't have ankles!", I didn't quite understand what she meant at the
time but she apparently was surprised at the number of Japanese women with
"fat" (or #4 or #5 on the above list) ankles.  Something that I never even
noticed or thought about in the States.  Not exactly the most appealing.
And you know how unappealing things tend to "JUMP" at you even though you
don't want to see it?  Same thing.
	Just some thoughts.
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R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ksbeh@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Tere K.S. BEH)
Subject: Japanese name !! 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:04:41 GMT

Sorry guys and gals.  I would like to know how can I tell by 

his or her name if he/she is a guy or a gal . Just curious.

Is there any formula for it ? (hee)


Thanks. Would like to hear from anyone.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: NASA and the Japanese Space Program
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:11:35 GMT

In article <justin.727592012@mik.uky.edu> justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:
>In <1993Jan20.214722.4107@udel.edu> shin@clover.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin) writes:
>>Does Mr Justin Sullivan trying to imply Japan's neighbors fear Japan because
>>they don't understand Japan?
>
>Mr Justin P. Sullivan could possibly be implying that, yes.. More to the point,
>I don't think that too many people trust Japan. It frequently takes a bit
>of ignorance of one's neighbor to be suspicious, if all they do is mind
>their own business and keep to themselves.

In terms of minding their own business and keeping to themselves, that's
exactly some of qualities Japan is known to *not* have, based on
historical facts, in that part of Asia.  Based on what Mr J Sullivan
comes forward with such absurd observations?
From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:27:31 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <1k24id$eed@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

	^^^^^^^
>Totally unnecessary, man.  yet another posting to scare women out of the 
>newsgroup.

Totally unnecessary, man.  yet another posting to scare people out of the 
newsgroup.
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From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Weapons are too easily available
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:32:49 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <RHB.93Jan26063849@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) answers to Norman Diamond who wrote :

ND>   I would like to see petitions circulated in other countries, requesting
ND>   the Japanese government to implement sword control for the protection of
ND>   its own society and the world community.


RHB>While you're at it, could you get them to circulate one in the U.S.
RHB>about gun control? Our problem here is *far* worse than Japan's. You
RHB>can run away from a sword. You can't from a bullet.

At first I thought it was a joke, but the only smiley around was the ubiquitous
invisible smiley as in     . But then, I read the .sig (remember, always
read the .sig. Reading a post without the .sig is like eating camembert
without the crust : it might taste better but it is not the real taste.).
Anyway, here it was :

.sig>-- 
.sig>|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
.sig>| have loved it."

I guess Robert is a free man now. (include your favorite smiley).


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.latin-america
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Subject: International Software Assignments
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:09:04 GMT


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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Where's the Beef...(a shameless plug, sorry)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:44:53 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <DIRCEU.93Jan26210333@mikan.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp> 
dirceu@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (Dirceu G. Cavendish Jr.) writes:

  >I sympathize with Bill Lambert. It is obscene the price one pays for what I
  >call 2D meat. This thread remindes me an ocasion I was enjoying a huge (for
  >my standards, after 2 years in Japan) 3D steak in a brazilian restaurant.
  >I asked to the waiter where such a nice meat came from, where he promptly
  >replied: From Australia, since brazilian meat does not passes in the japanese
  >quality control. I thought to myself. Protectionism :-(

Just to add my $.02.  I've been to a nice and cheap teppanyaki place in
Oomori where the beef had considerable flavour and excellent texture, but
the cost was very reasonable.  The funny thing about the slices of beef,
it looked as though the meat had been aged and then marinated by the
owner and then rinsed and towel dried before bringing it out.  No hints
of any antibiotic residue, and I couldn't readily tell whether the
cattle was corn or grain fed...or whatever synthetic stuff they use
these days.

From my restaurant experience, I was always told that to improve flavour
and texture, sides of beef are hung in a refrigerated environment for
several weeks after slaughter to allow the enzymes to slowly bring out
the flavour and tenderize the meat fibres.  A day prior to cooking, we'd
marinate the beef in an alkaline buffered (i.e. egg white + baking soda) 
marinade.  I guess the cooks at this teppanyaki place were doing
something similar.

  >PS.: My girlfriend said I looked to the steak at first sight as a
  >naked woman :-). Am I addicted to meat (3D tasty, salty)?
  >
  >Wanna go to a barbecue restaurant?

Yeah.  You have a small plane that'll fly us out to the edge of the
Mojave dessert?  There's a resort out there called Casa del Sol, with
very reasonable, and huge Top Sirloin steak dinner for $22 + tax + tip. 
Absolutely 3-Dimensional.  Lots o' flavour.  45 minutes northeast of
San Diego as the crow flies (at 210 knots or so).  As a tip to the 
Japanese honeymooners who are doing the standard Yosemite, Grand Canyon,
San Diego, LA tour:  You've got to put Casa del Sol on you're venue.
$65/night for your own private bungalow, cheap, excellent meals and 
service.  Totemo 'romantic' na.

Jaa, James
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From: ac4v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adrian Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Apologizing for WWII--yet again
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:52:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cfN9Zti00iV1E9Bpws
Organization: Freshman, IM - Graphic Communications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

To Mr. Dwight Joe@leland.Stanford.edu

    I think your idea is pretty interesting.  I do agree that the
Japanese people are not responsible, but, personally, I think the
Japanese government is.  Many Japanese were the victims, killed by the
American bombs.
    
    I would like to know how much do you know about Japan, China and
Asia?  For example, have you ever been to Japan, China, and Asia?  (I am
not trying to be offensive.  I am just asking.)  Have you ever done any
research about this issue?  Did you actually talk to the people from
both side?...

    Basically, I just want to see how valid your idea is.  Personally, I
think some of your ideas are right, but some of them are biased.

    Then too, I am really interested on your view about the Nazi Garmany.
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: 50 YEARS AGO TODAY: January 22, 1943 - Fall of Sananda
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:31:48 -0800 (PST)
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: ikkoku-kan.panda.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On January 22, 1943, Sananda, New Guinea, fell to the Allies.  Buna had fallen
on January 2.  This ended the Japanese offensive on the territorial capital of
Port Moresby, and the threat to Australia.

The collapse of the New Guinea offensive was the first major Allied land
victory of the war.  It, along with Japan's failure to hold onto Henderson
Field, the airbase Japan had built on Guadalcanal, was the first sign that all
was not going to go well for the Japanese Army (the Japanese Navy having been
humbled at Midway 7 months earlier).

Fighting would continue in the jungles of New Guinea until the war ended; and
for some isolated Japanese soldiers, it continued for decades afterwards...

Japan's empire had ceased to grow.  In 1943, Japan would be fighting to hold
on to the empire it had.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: on extraterritoriality (I)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:07:52 GMT


Sigh.
I really would appreciate if you read the WHOLE ARTICLE before replying.
And the sequels (which I announced to be coming) that followed
a few hours after, as well.
Your whole response (which entirely lies on a falsity than is immediately
apparent from my article itself) is thus trash.
Consequently, so is this response.

Sorry for the bandwidth.

-YH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporate R&D H.Q.- R&D Support Dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:44:13 GMT


In article <RHB.93Jan22222015@world.std.com>, rhb@world.std.com (Robert
H Brueckner) writes:
|>
|> Well, you don't have to be Japanese-American to get thrown up against
|> a locker in high school. Actually, all you have to be is smarter,
|> shorter, weaker, or not a football player. So you're not being singled
|> out, believe me, except that you are different. But let's compare
	Did I say I was being singled out?  Maybe I should have used a
	more generalized example.  You're right though, As long as you
	are different in some way, you have a chance of experiencing cold
	steel against your back.
|> treatment here, just for the hell of it, with that of anomalous people
|> in Japan. Owada-san, the future empress, herself was victimized in
|> this way, probably much more cruelly and relentlessly than any
|> football player ever would have done it, merely because she had been
|> abroad.
	What does this have to do with the use of the word "Jap"?
|> 
|> 	   Anyway, I prefer that the term "Jap" NOT be used, whether it was
|>    meant to be respectful or not.
|> 
|> 	   It's the same as any other term, "Chink", "Nigger", "Yank", etc.  
|>    Alot of people would just prefer that the terms not be used.
|> 
|> I don't mind being called a Yank. My British friends call me that (as
|> in "you Yanks are having a bit of trouble in Somalia now, aren't
	If you don't mind being called "Yank", that's fine with us, but
	that doesn't mean that others don't mind either.  I have a number
	of friends who DO mind being called "Yank", but that's not my
	point.  My point is that, these words have come to carry some
	amount of derogatory connotations to them.  In general, I don't
	care if you're speaking to friend and jokingly call him "Brit"
	or "Jap" or "Nigger" or "Chink" if you two have an understanding
	between eachother, but using these words in cases like the 
	example that you stated about the luxury car is not such a good
	idea.  In general, is it good practice to use derogatory terminology
	in public writing such as newspapers/magazines/etc.? I don't
	think so, but what do I know?  I'm not a professional writer.

|>   |> | Opinions expressed here, when |
|>    |> | clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner
(rhb@world.std.com) |
|> 
|> 	   Since your opinions weren't quite so persuasive, whose opinions
|>    were they?  :)  
|> 
|> I have no idea. As my signature says, I only take responsibility for
|> opinions that *are* clear and persuasive. Must have been line noise.
|> ;-)

	That's some line noise!  :)
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R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:12:44 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
Distribution: world,local
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In article <1993Jan23.163217.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67709907@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>I heard from one of my professors here that the "ko" (child) ending
>for girls' names became really popular in Japan in the 1920s.
>Before then, not many Japanese families gave this type of name to
>their children.  I also heard that the more adventurous parents of
>today are steering away from it.  Fact or legend?

Fact. But not just the "more adventurous" parents. ALL PARENTS are
steering away from names ending in -ko. You can't hardly find a 2 year
old with this type of name in all of Japan. (Okay, I admit it, I ran
across one friend of my daughter's out of about 15 with a -ko.)
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From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Subject: Re: Honda vs Ford
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:33:10 GMT

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi) writes:

>naru@eng.umd.edu (Naruhisa Takashima) writes:

>> I have a question to those who follow the American and Japanese auto industry
>> How does the self imposed quota by the Japanese industry effect the 
>> current American market.
>> 
>The self-imposed quota probably has very little effect on the current 
>American car market seeing that the major Japanese manufacturers have 
>made direct investments (ie. factories) in the US.  However, back when 
>foreign direct investment had not been made, the effect of the 
>self-imposed quota or the pressured quota was to cartelize the Japanese 
>auto exports, resulting in higher profits for the Japanese.  Economists 
>generally acknowledge that forcing the self-imposed quota was a complete 
>failure.

	Economists are a funny bunch, and complete failure is too
	strong.  The artificial shortage of Japanese cars forced
	prices higher on Japanese cars, allowing US manufacturers
	to raise their prices, and thus get greater profits.  This
	was supposed to allow them to have the money to invest in
	becoming more competitive, which it may have done. It also
	allowed them to give their executives HUGE bonuses, further
	alienating a lot of Americans.

	- Michael Goldman

-- 
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