From: arp2@ellis.uchicago.edu (andrew robert polis)
Subject: Re: Robotech vs. ?
Reply-To: arp2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:42:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.151928.6431@uumeme.chi.il.us> drac@uumeme.chi.il.us (Bruce Maynard) writes:
>In article <yBisXB5w165w@runic.via.mind.org> thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams[SysOp]) writes:
>>ebstokes@uncc.edu (Edward B Stokes) writes:
>>
>>> Worf: missile launch from threat vessel. Chemical powered, nuclear warhead.
>>>        Swarms of fighters approaching.
>>> Piccard: Fire phasers at missiles. Tractor the fighters.
>>
>>  One problem.  No way in Hell does the Enterprise have enough power to
>>  fire continuous phasers, keep the shields up, and tractor the 2000 or
>>  so space-worthy mecha released by a ship the size of a city+.
>>
>>  All they'd have to do is keep harassing the shields, keeping them
>>  flickering and then send Cyclones into the hull-area to drop on some
>>  plastique and breach the hull.
>>
>>  Instant gutted Enterprise.
>
>Worf: Incoming missiles... chemically powered, nuclear warheads. Several
>      hundred fighters following immediately behind.
>
>Picard: Raise shields; Prepare a photon torpedo spread set to explode within
>        the area of the leading missiles, followed by another spread set for
>        similar effect amongst the fighters. Mr. Warf, you may fire when ready.
>
>[scene of mass destruction of missiles and fighters, obliterated by 40-50
>   matter/antimatter explosions]
>
>Data: The attacking force has been effectively eliminated, Captain. Mothership
>      appears to be chainging, aiming a large twin-barrelled weapon, capacity
>      reads as approximately 4,000 megawatts; a large plasma cannon.
>
>Riker: Mr. Data, initiate a (somewhat famous {side wink to Picard}) Picard Maneuver, and bring us out of warp 60,000 kilometers the other side of the enemy vessel.
>
>Data: Course programmed and ready.
>
>Picard: Make it so. (couldn't resist  8-{)}  )
>
>[gigantic blast passes thru where the Enterprise was a moment ago; scene of 
>   great consternation aboard the Macross]
>
>Riker: Target enemy vessel; commence rapid fire with all weapons.
>
>[Macross reflex-shield explodes impressively]
>
>Data: The enemy vessel's shield has exploded; minor damage to forward shield.
>       (well, what didja EXPECT at a range of 60,000 klicks?!?)
>
>Riker: Mr. Worf, you may recommence fire when ready.
>
>[boing zap clang honk tweet.... expanding cloud of FORMER Macross...]
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>As y'all can see, while Veritech is quite impressive, it just don't cut it vs 
>matter/antimatter explosions (photon torps)... and the Enterprise's main 
>phasers have such a range that the reflex-shield explosion would basically
>be just a pretty effect. End of story.
>


Unfortunately for the enterprise, that explosion had enough power to wipe out
an entire Zentraedi armada of 4 million ships, undoutedly spread more than
60,000km throughout space.  And 'chemical powered ' missiles??!!??  Those are
reflex missiles, powered by protoculture (and exploded by the same).  And the
SDF-1's main gun  4000 megawatts?! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha  maybe some of the 
smaller armaments.  And why on earth would one or two phaseres overload the
barrier?  preposterous. You need to do a 'fantasy' check :).