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From: kncarp@nicsn1.monsanto.com (Kevin N. Carpenter)
Subject: WIN-OS2 and 2.1b problem
Organization: Monsanto Company
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:56:10 GMT

I installed 2.1b over my 2.0+sp system last night.  Everything looked fine
until I went to try a Windows program (Excel).  I did the program migration
as previous posters had recommended.  Anyhow, whenever I double clicked on
the Excel icon, the hard disk would be briefly hit, and within 5 seconds or
so, control would be returned to me.  Excel never launched.  I tried other
icons, like the Program Manager, and had the same result.  Vaguely recalling
some mention of the need to Selective Install WIN-OS2 if installing over
an existing system, I proceeded to do that.  All went well, until the scan
of the 19 disk were complete, whereupon it prompted me for both display disk
one and two (only one was asked for during the initial 2.1b install).  After
rebooting, my screen was having serious syncronization problems.  No Windows
apps would run either.  I used DSPINSTL and noted that on the second pass,
2.1b recognised that I had an ATI card (its very old, a 512K original).  I
changed back to standard SVGA mode.  After the third reboot, my screen was
once again behaving, and WIN-OS2 Icons now launched!

One little itty bitty problem remains... (I wish!)  Whenever I now exit from
a WIN-OS2 application (like Excel, or the Program Manager), my system hangs.
The mouse still functions, but the keyboard is dead, and background task
stop (I run a BBS in background, and it hung my caller as well).  This is
rather unfortunetly repeatable.  Any and all suggestions welcome.

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St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A.
Opinions expressed are those of the author, not the company he works for. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: tape
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:12:56 GMT

css0860@sigma.tamu.edu (Skelter) writes:

>Can someone recommend a tape backup system for os/2 2.x?

Any SCSI tape will operate with os/2 2.0. There is also the CMS (Colorado
memory systems) drives. There has been considerable discusion of both, 
if you can read back in time.
I use a SCSI tape, an Adaptec 1542b controller, and mostly GTAK shareware
available on Hobbes.

                                      [sam]
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: NEC CDR-84 and trantor T128....HELP!!!!!!! PLEASE!
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 06:01:43 GMT

In article <19642.2b5fd112@levels.unisa.edu.au> xabaea@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>We have an NEC CDR-84 and a Trantor T128 SCSI adaptor and we are trying to
>install the OS/2 developers kit which happens to be on CD-ROM...
>
>however we can't seem to get OS/2 to find the CD-ROM...
>
>we used the drivers os2cdrom.dmd & neccds1.flt for the CDR-84
>and t128scsi.add for the trantor
>
>but these don't seem to do much... although i am not sure we have installed
>the drivers correctly either...

I have Adaptec 1542B ont Trantor, but I do have a NEC CDR-84 that works
fine with both the GA+SP using os2cdrom.zip from Hobbes and with the 2.1 Beta.

The only suggestion that I have is in the form of a question: Does the
Trantor have ROM-BIOS diagnostics that report what devices it sees on
the SCSI chain, or do you have DOS software diagnostics for Trantor that
do likewise? The first step is to make sure that your hardware is working
properly together.

Happy New Year of the Rooster [oriental]


orville

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From: gast@hawat.abg.sub.org (Besucher       )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Driver for NCR-Graphic-Adapter (S-VGA Driver) needed
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 19:59:21 GMT
Organization: APL II Host Augsburg, Germany

Did anybody know, where I can get such a driver for OS/2 2.0GA
I will be very happy if I get any answer.

Thank's Servet Kurum

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From: joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1 beta
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:51:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:

>cvadsgpb@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan) writes:

>>I've been have random keyboard lockups in OS/2 sessions.  The keyboard
>>just dies,  but I can still press Cntrl-Esc, at which time, the keyboard
>>revives itself *sometimes*.  Anyone else having this problem?  
>Me too. Under all kinds of DOS-sessions, both fullscreen and windows. Irri-
>tating as hell.

>>In WinOS/2 3.1, how do I disable the Print Manager from loading up?  I know
>Remove the !printman entry from MAVDMapps - NOT the line, but just the word.
>(It's in the FAQ ;-)
Ooops - forgot to mention: It's SYSTEM.INI that's got the line!!!

Christian
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M.Sc. student, University of Copenhagen, Dept. of Computer Science
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Wolf)
Subject: Ahead XGA-2 info
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:11:17 GMT

Anybody have any specs on Ahead's XGA-2 board or a release date or anything?
I would like to compare this info with Radius' product and see which I
want (or can afford!!!).

Any info would greatly be appreciated!  THANKS!

- Eric Wolf
  ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: A1.MCL@isumvs.iastate.edu 
Subject: Re: PS/2s and OS/2
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:05:16 GMT

>>There could be one advantage: Machine dependant stuff could be put into
>>the ABIOS, allowing incompatible hardware without getting into the
>>well-known driver problem. But IBM states, their new PS/2 machines with
>>preloaded OS/2 do not accept any previous brand of OS/2, neither OS/2
>>GA nor the Service Pack. So what about ABIOS?
>
>Each IBM machine has a "tie in" file -- this file describes how OS/2
>accesses the ABIOS, principally.  Older versions of OS/2 don't include
>these files for newer PS/2s.

The newer PS/2's use what is called 'Loadable ABIOS'.  This means
that the ABIOS is loaded in from the Reference Partition or from
a diskette.  OS/2 2.0 could not deal with a 'Loadable ABIOS',
but all future versions of OS/2 will.
Reference IBM Personal Systems Technical Solutions, Jan. 1993.

Mike Long
Iowa State University
From: harvey@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Any spare 2.1b CDROMS Please
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:20:21 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hello to all reading this,

I live in New Zealand and am after the 2.1b on CDROM. There is no support for
this down here and I cannot afford to FTP the disk images here. So what I'm
after is somebody who ordered the 2.1b CDROM or the December PDK who is willing
to part with there copy and post it to me in New Zealand. I need this very
quickly and am willing to pay the associated costs. I am a member of the DAP
and have signed Non disclosure agreements for the Oct and Nov PDK (No December
down here for a couple of months) so this should not be a problem. If you can
help then reply to me via EMAIL ASAP.

harvey@waikato.ac.nz

I will reply to the first person to offer help to arrange addresses and
payment, if more than one person replies, then thank you for your help. I will
not send replies to all respondents.

Thanks Mark Harvey
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Thursday, 21 Jan 1993 19:45:06 CET
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 2.1b WPS: icon-text-background color still not there

With GA and GA+SP many people were complaining about icon-texts not being
visible if the background picture had areas of different colors where
some colors were almost the same as the icon-text-color.

Therefore people suggested that the icon-text should get its own
background color, which would be present all the time, so the background
picture would not hamper people reading the icon-text. Optionally, the
background color of icon-text could be as a default "screen" as is the
case with painting icons (i.e. the way it is now).

Can we expect that simple but very helpful addition in 2.1 GA ?

---rony
From: 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Questions: HPFS/Paradise
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:43:40 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

A few questions, these may be FAQs, if so, put me in my rightful place...
 
1. What's the deal with the Western Digital drivers with my 1B card?
Will SuperVGA still be a dream for me with the proper release of 2.1, or 
am I going to have to live with 16 colors until I get a new video card?
Will there be a fix or special drivers on Hobbes?
 
2. Is there ANY WAY I can make modifications to the config.sys in my HPFS
formatted partition from DOS or the OS/2 install disks?  Config.sys crashed
when I installed the SIO/VSIO drivers, and there was no way I could modify the
config.sys, having to reinstall the entire system.  Is there _any way_ I can
get around this, or make a floppy-based boot disk with the HPFS system?
 
3. Are the multimedia applets _supposed_ to stutter, or is that just my system?
Windows sound support works marvelously now, but the OS/2 applets sound awful
on my SoundBlaster...

Thanks for any/all help!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: Why can't I increase my dos window size??
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:14:34 GMT

In article <baloo.727632675@mik.uky.edu>
 baloo@nx01.mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:

>Why can't I increase my dos window size?

Look at the MODE command.  By default, you are restricted to a 24(25?) line 
by 80 character window, so the size of the window depends on this and the 
size of the font.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roland@margaret (David A. Braun)
Subject: PAS-16 Drivers
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:23:16 GMT

Would someone who might be so lucky to have gotten the PAS-16 BETA drivers be  
so kind as to E-Mail them to me UUENCODED??  I really want to be able to  
install and modify my setup with a CD rather than twenty some-od disks...

Thanks in advance...

<roland>

roland@choate.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: "mike frisch" <mike.frisch@canrem.com>
Subject: os/2 and the gravis ultra
Reply-To: "mike frisch" <mike.frisch@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:26:25 EST


In a previous message, Timothy F. Sipples writes...

TFS> Gravis has made promises, but nothing has shipped.  You should tell
TFS> them why you are taking your business elsewhere.

     Don't hold your breath!  From what I can see, Gravis isn't selling
half the soundcards they expect to sell.  I wrote a letter to their
marketing rep asking about OS/2 support and haven't heard a single word
back.

Mike.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: PNIELSEN@FINABO.ABO.FI (Peter Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Does os/2 use all 32 meg when installed?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:37:25 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1993Jan16.215815.6655@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com writes:
> Does anyone know whether os/2 v2.0 uses all 32 meg of ram when it is
> installed? Are there any restrictions on the way the upper 16 meg are
> used? Thanks.

I have a IBM model 95 PS/2 with 64 MB RAM installed. OS/2 can detect
all of it (i.e. DosGetFreeMem returns 55Mb FREE memory when OS/2 is loaded)
BUT! I'm not quite convinced if OS/2 really can use all of it or if it only
uses 48 Mb as mentioned in the advertisements...

Conclusion: There is no restriction on the upper 16 meg, but perhaps on the
            amount that exceed 48 meg...
            (Note: this goes for a machine with a 32-bit MCA or EISA bus!)

Regards,
	Peter
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From: Eric.Chan@ttlg.UUCP (Eric Chan)
Sender: postmaster@ttlg.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MMPM/2 and PC speaker
Date: 27 Jan 93  18:18:00 mst

Do you know if there's a Wave driver for Adlib in WinOS231? I used the Windwos V3.1 driver and I got a General Protection Error message.

Any Ideas?


 * Origin: Mach2 Vulcan OS/2 Systems 1-403-489-4250 (42:100/20)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Visi-On - a trademark of VisiCorp ??
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:36:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.180322.12646@cumin.telecom.uqam.ca> shorrock@mips1.info.uqam.ca (Shorrock*Glenn) writes:
>Both the original OS/2 install program and, now, the 2.1 beta install, refer
>to Visi-On in their list of trademarks cited.  I vaguely recall that Visi-On
>was a mid-eighties vaporware windowing environment.  Does anyone know why it
>shows up in OS/2?

Yes.  The Visi-On mouse did ship at one point.  OS/2 supports the
Visi-On mouse.

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From: vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu (David A. Vohwinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Colorado Trakker 120/250
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:08:42 GMT
Organization: UB

I am looking into buying a tape back-up system and was wondering if anyone
has used the Colorado Trakker . Does anyone have any info on it as to it's 
transfer rate (I've heard that it gets 8/megs per minute), and does the
back-up software work with it??? Can you use PMTape or any of the others?
Can you back-up a HPFS with all the EA's and desktop info???  And what kind
of load does it place on the system. Can you back-up and restore from the 
command line or do you need to re-install the whole Os before you can run it???


							Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: CD-ROMS.....HELP!!!!
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:35:04 GMT

In article <19628.2b5ecd33@levels.unisa.edu.au> xabaea@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>we are trying to install a CD-ROM in our pc running OS/2... @ e
>the CD-ROM works fine under DOS and Windows but when running OS/2, it  k s   e
>doesn't know a thing about it...
>we have tried using various OS/2 drivers that are supposedly compatible v t u p p a r e s
>with our CD-ROM (we got them from some other bulletin board) but they don't a e n
>seem to work... .
>We have an NEC CDR-84 CD-ROM
>and Trantor T128 SCSI adaptor card... a
>If anyone has any suggestions on how to install this stuff correctly or { { T t h
>any other drivers needed then please   h e s   t h e n
>let me know!!!

Trantor drivers for OS/2 are available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu -- check file /pub/os2/00Index for location.  You
will also need the file os2cdrom.zip.  Read all the included
documentation, then go ahead and install -- it should work fine.

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From: gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Opinions Please -- WPS "feature"
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:40:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.gershon.728026826

gt1610c@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Kenneth McGaugh) writes:

>There is one aspect of the WPS that I really feel is
>counter productive.  I would like to hear some opinions
>from others in the net about this idea.

I would like to get a whole discussion of things to change or add to OS/2
going...

>I feel that when an icon is selected with mouse button 2
>with the intent of dragging it (moving, copying, shadowing,
>or drag-n-dropping), the folder which contains that object
>should NOT become the foreground window.  I has become very
>frustrating to find the object you are looking for, and when
>you go to drag it to another folder, its folder comes to the
>foreground and covers up the intended destination for your
>object.

I have exactly the same problem.

>If I remember correctly, the 6.304 beta of OS/2 2.0 last
>spring had this exact feature in it.  I do not know how much
>code would have to be rewritten to change this, but I would
>like to pursue this matter with IBM.  Does anyone know who or
>where to contact about such a feature change?  I doubt they
>will take it as a bug report.

>Ken.
>Internet: gt1610c@prism.gatech.edu

I agree that it would be a good feature.  A more general version of that
feature would be that bringing a window into focus doesn't necessarily
bring it to the foreground (like X-windows).

In general, I would really like to see an organized way for users to make
suggestions about OS/2 to IBM and possibly get some sort of IBM feedback
on it (though this is asking alot): basically a "suggestion box".

Now if only there were a suggestion box to send this idea to...

                                             --Ethan Gershon
                                             gershon@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roland@margaret (David A. Braun)
Subject: Re: Install os/2 beta with PAS16
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:15:02 GMT

In article <1jerupINNblc@CATEGORY.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>  
lu-chien-ping@cs.yale.edu (Chien-Ping Lu) writes:
> I am going to install OS/2 2.1 beta. I have a PAS16 soundcard with a SCSI
> adapter on it that are used to control my NEC CDR 84 CD-ROM.
> As I heard from many netters in comp.sys.ibm.pc.souncard, the SCSI
> adapter on PAS16 is NOT a Trantor device. Trantor just wrote SCSI
> driver for PAS16. Even worse is that those Trantor SCSI adapters are
> not compatible with the one on PAS16. My questions are:
> 
> a) What other SCSI adapters are compatible with PAS16's
> b) Is there any SCSI driver for the little PAS16 SCSI adapter
> 
> Note that I am not talking about sound support. I just want to install
> OS/2 2.1 beta from my CD-ROM.
> 
> Thanks.

NO, the SCSI in the PAS-16 (Which I also unfortunalely have) IS a Trantor, but  
it's not actually any one of their standard models...  It's been modified.  The  
drivers, as I've heard rumors, are now just beginning BETA... If you want more  
info from Media Vision--- This is their BBS number: 510-770-0527.

<roland>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bill@west.msi.com (Bill Poitras)
Subject: What is the OS/2 Service Pack?
Reply-To: bill@west.msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:45:06 GMT

I was reading "The OS/2 100" advertising section in the February 9, 1993
issue of PC Magazine and the 100th point says "To purchase the $25 OS/2
Service Pack, call (800)3IBM-OS2."

What is in the $25 Service Pack?

FYI: To get some documents FAXed to you from IBM about OS/2 call
(800)IBM-4FAX.  Press 3 "to request a list of documents" followed by 1
for the "Personal Systems" sections.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Problems with SVGA drivers??
From: dritz@husc8.harvard.edu (Jay Dritz)
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:31:16 GMT
Keywords: tseng,video,graphics
Summary: Cannot run VGA or EGA graphics in DOS window in OS/2 with Tseng vdriver

I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem, if it indeed is a
problem.

I can run VGA and EGA graphics programs in a DOS window on the OS/2 desk-
top with the VGA drivers that came with the OS/2 CSD.

However, using the high-resolution TSENG drivers (I have an Orchid Pro-
Designer II with 1 MB memory), I cannot run VGA or EGA programs in a DOS
window on the PM desktop.  I thought that OS/2 allowed one to do this.
Is this a bug or is it impossible as of yet?  I get a message saying
something like "video mode not supported in window.  program suspended
until switch to full-screen mode."  When I switch to full-screen, I have
no problems.

Please E-mail reponses and/or post.  Thank you.

---Jay---
dritz@husc.harvard.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 a dead end?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:45:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan22.222421.4974@spcvxb.spc.edu> benezra_a@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>> Average computer users will not be willing to or may not be able to
>> copy with these "minor" glitches.  When Windows or dos crashed and
>> average computer user does a reboot, he's generally back at the dos
>> command line within a minute or two (depending on his
>> config/autoexec), or back at windows in another min or so.  With
>> OS/2, when it reboots, particularly after a crash or unexpected
>> shutdown, it takes upwards of 5 to 30 minutes depending on your
>> hard drive size and configuration.  
>
>Are you kidding? 5 to 30 minutes?! Are you sure your computer is
>plugged in? If that were true, there wouldn't be anyone here to talk
>to. Where did you get this gem from? Redmond?

Perhaps he has a 65ms hard drive.


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