From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Interesting (suprising?) Fact.
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:04:35 GMT

In article <2252@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL
(Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.142458.27322@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com
>(Clare Chu Ayala) writes:
>[Comments expressing irritation at obnoxious attitude of some Caucasian
>American males deleted]
>>  Just curious, why are you guys so upset with ZZZ?  He is stating his
>>  observation, you state yours.  So your observations don't match.
>>  Big deal.

As a reminder, here's what ZZZ wrote.

   >In article <Oct.8.13.51.51.1992.1703@soliton.rutgers.edu>
   zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:
   >>Now the interesting part, usually the [Chinese or Taiwanese] girls who
   >>can get chinese dates don't date Americans. Most of the times, only those
   >>who cannot date Chinese or Taiwanese date Americans. No offense to anyone
   >>here, just my observation. 

There's a bit of hypocrisy here.

When people state observations that Chinese-cu don't like, then Chinese-cu
accuse them of being racist or inflammatory.  When Chinese-cu state
observations that other people don't like, then the Chinese-cu tell 
them to be open-minded and to listen to the "observations".

If John Doe Hashimoto had said, 

   Now the interesting part, usually the Americans-cu girls who
   can get American-cu dates don't date Chinese-cu. Most of the times,
   only those who cannot date American-cu date Chinese-cu.  No offense to
   anyone here, just my observation. 

I assure you people that some Chinese-cu would grab their spears,
throw on the loin cloth, put on their head-dress, and beat the
drums of a war chat--ready to flame that Mr. Hashimoto to a crisp.
Further, their flames would be entirely a personal attack against
Mr. Hashimoto.

What Ms. Ayala states is sheer hypocrsisy, and I suspect that she knows it.

>For the record I'm going to state *my* observation.  There have been comments
>posted here more than once to the effect that women from mainland China
>only associate with American men for the sake of the green card.  This does
>not match my own experience at all.  I've had the privilege of knowing
>several from women from China.  None of them were either this manipulative
>or incompatible with American men.
>>  They don't all belong to you Americans.
>What's this `you Americans' stuff?  I though you grew up in the USA?

Many Chinese-cu believe that Chinese-(ge)-Americans are not Americans
and that only people with white skin can be Americans.  (I know.  I know.
Rednecks think just like Chinese-cu people.)

This is neither a joke nor an exaggeration.

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