From: gregs@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Wanted: spoilers about 'cleaver'
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:34:40 GMT

jwk3@po.CWRU.Edu (John W. Kale) writes:


>In a previous article, donm@cs.UAlberta.CA (Don Murray) says:

>>However, I have also run into an axe named 'Cleaver' a lot more often.
>>I am always disappointed when I 'identify' these artifacts and find they
>>are +0, so I figure they must have some other special uses.
>>
>>What does it do?  Anybody know?  Just a lot of damage or something?
>>

>	Cleaver is just, as you say, a good axe. It does a lot
>of damage... for an axe. Stormbringer is far better.

I was curious about Cleaver too, so I looked it up in the spoiler file.
The spoiler file doesn't make much sense to me in this area.  Maybe
someone can help out...

Warning: I posted a whole section from the spoiler file.
MAJOR SPOILER - from the spoiler file - follows


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
|              |                                               |        |
| Name         |  Weapon type                    Special       | What   |Al
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Cleaver      | Axe 3            | 1 |  2 |                   |        | C |
| Demonbane    | Long sword       | 5 | x2 |                   | demons | L |
| Dragonbane   | Broadsword       | 5 | x2 |                   | dragon | N |
| Excalibur    | Long sword       | 5 | 10 | seek, def., search|        | L |
| Fire brand   | Long sword       | 5 | x2 | defend, fire      |        | N |
| Frost brand  | Long sword       | 5 | x2 | defend, cold      |        | N |
| Giantslayer  | Long sword       | 5 | x2 |                   | giants | N |
| Grimtooth    | Orcish dagger    | 2 |  6 |                   |        | C |
| Mjollnir     | War hammer       | 5 | 24 | shock             |        | L |
| Ogresmasher  | War hammer       | 5 | x2 |                   | ogres  | L |
| Orcrist      | Two handed sword | 5 | x2 |                   | orcs   | L |
| Snickersnee  | Katana           | 0 |  8 |                   |        | L |
| Sunsword     | Long sword       | 5 | x2 |                   | undead | L |
| Sting        | Elven dagger     | 5 | x2 | warn              | orcs   | L |
| Stormbringer | Broadsword       | 5 |  2 | defend, drain lvl |        | C |
| Trollsbane   | Morning star     | 5 | x2 |                   | trolls | L |
| Werebane     | Long sword       | 5 | x2 |                   | weres  | L |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                   ^^^^^^^
                            This is what I don't get.

These are the special abilities:

cold - The extra damage done is cold damage, and as a result will not affect
cold resistant creatures.
defend - This will defend you against whatever special attack type the
     artifact has.  Excalibur and Stormbringer defend against level draining
     attacks (even though Excalibur can't drain levels itself), Frost brand
     defends against cold cold based attacks (i.e. gives cold resistance),
     and Fire brand defends against fire based attacks (i.e. gives fire
     resistance).
drain level - This will drain a level from the creature attacking,
     effectively making it less powerful as well as removing eight hp from
     it.
fire - The extra damage done is fire damage, and as a result will not affect
     fire resistant creatures.
search - Will aid you in searching, much as a ring of searching.
seek - This should (eventually) "aid you in seeking objects." Currently, this
     ability is unimplemented.
shock - The extra damage done is electrical damage, and as a result will not
     affect shock resistant creatures.
warn - Will warn you when more monsters more powerful than you are around,
     much as a ring of warning.
------------------------------------- end of excerpt ----------------------

So what do the numbers mean?  ie:

| Cleaver      | Axe 3            | 1 |  2 |                   |        | C |
| Demonbane    | Long sword       | 5 | x2 |                   | demons | L |
| Dragonbane   | Broadsword       | 5 | x2 |                   | dragon | N |
| Excalibur    | Long sword       | 5 | 10 | seek, def., search|        | L |
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
     		Does this mean that Demonbane and Dragonbane to double
		damage to demons/dragons, and that Cleaver and Excalibur
		are just +2 and +10 damage (respectively)?  And what are
		the 5's for by the swords, and the 1 for Cleaver?

Sorry for posting the whole thing, but I'm sure lots of people could use
this information.  It didn't make sense to post the stats and not the
descriptions.  So anybody got the answers?  
-- 
Gregory Sumner                        ::
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