HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Lexus in M'sia... (Was:  Lexus in Singapore)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:53:42 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <By6xq4.Dv5@ns1.nodak.edu>, yu@plains.NoDak.edu (Albert Yu             ) writes:
> Hiya Singapore pals,
> 
> Did you know that Singapore has finally launched the Toyota Lexus.
> 
> The car is said to be "For Perfectionists, By Perfectionists". But...
> guess what!? Each car cost S$279K or equivalent to the price of a HDB 5-room
> executive flat. Errr... that still excludes the "Bid price" and the "Road
> tax", etc... So if you can afford a Lexus, you are "Perfect".

	Hey, M'sia beat Singapore in this then...  I remember hearing about
Lexus in M'sia for quite some time now (since it was introduced), tho, at
M$400,000, not too many people can afford it.  Supposed to be a very good car
at US$40,000...  Big difference huh?
	Anyway, the last time I heard, the four (about) people who have it are
Mahathir, the big guy at Toyota, the big guy at Shell (or one of the other oil
companies), and some member of the royal family up north...  So, if you have a
Lexus, you are in good company.... :)  Tho, when my friend came back from
Japan, he told us that it was all over the place...  Personally, I would still
go for that Diablo.... :) :) :)
	Ciao.

-Tai
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:50:22 EST
From: *Eat Me* <C4B@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malcom X
 <92325.165831C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> <98672@netnews.upenn.edu>

In article <98672@netnews.upenn.edu>, nlatif@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya
Abdul Latif) says:


>Hey dude! where is your sense of humour??  Dont you know that it was meant
>to be a joke??  And why is it wrong by quoting (sp?) from someone who is
>funny??  Get a life!!!  And yeah...Penn IS a good school, and we r proud of
>it!!

Ahaaa, sense of humor ? Get a life ? Hehe this is the second time I got the
same so called 'psuedo-flame'. I love it. Look, I was trying to give you
some advice. Ok, you kicked me in the butt, I quit. I hope God will help you.

>And to you guys out there...please...Penn IS NOT Pen State!!!  Chao.

Oh well, you are a Sophomore aren't you ? Hmmm, remember that you still have
a looooong way to go. Being at Penn now does not gurantee that you will grad.
from Penn. Hehhe, again I am being nice here, get to class and start studying.
Don't waste your time here, (like many people do, including me) But I will be
graduating in December, and I already had a job offer. So please, I know about
this s.c.a long before you first step your foot in Philly. I even followed the
apology from Mr. Azlan and flames from Zam, Looi, Martillo and recently mr.
othman. Those are some names that appear on s.c.a frequently.

Later dude.


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By the way, it's sense of humor, not "humour" :)  <-- look ! the smiley !
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From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Latest on Malaysia Cup Final
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:39:52 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov16.090947.6369@gw.wmich.edu>, x90mohd30@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> Sorry that I stopped abruptly.....
> 
> 	Anyway, Pahang won 4 championship....
> 
>                 Sumbangsih Cup  (what is this competition ?)
> 		League Cup (First Division)
> 		Fair Play Cup  (is this an award ?)
> 		MAlaysia Cup...........
> 
	The good news is that Pahang did not win the FA cup.  By the way,
since Pahang won both Malaysia cup and the league championship, who is going to
play them in the next season opener Charity Shield cup ?
        C'mon Selangor, look at Kedah as an example, and get back to the
first division !!


Jack Teh

> 
> 		
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: sundararajan@saturn.glassboro.edu
Subject: ...Asian Students at the Rowan College,New Jersey...
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ 08028
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:49:58 GMT


Dear Netters , 
                 This is a call for help.....
              We, Asian students at the Rowan College of New Jersey 
 (formerly Glassboro State College), are attempting to form an Asian
 students association ... it would be of great help if u folks could
 send back information about similar organizations u belong to, u'r
 own ideas or other suggestions on how to collect,organize and run
 such a group ,possible activities , sources of financial or other
 help etc. We're at present, a small group of about half a dozen who
 have gathered.. we do know more asian students exist on our campus
 and are trying to reach them & so on... U'r suggestions would, in
 my belief, most certainly help in speeding up the whole process of
 organising. I look forward to hearing from u soon... if this is not
 truly "network" material in u'r opinion, u can send u'r ideas 
 directly to me at "sundararajan @ saturn.glassboro.edu". Thank u.

                 ...on behalf of the Asian Students at Rowan College,

                          sincerely,
                                     Raman Sundararajan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: hykok@nyx.cs.du.edu (Herbie Husker)
Subject: Re: Somebody please get Othman Ahmad off the newsgroup!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:07:01 GMT

afs2@po.CWRU.Edu (Ahmad F. Shaarani) writes:


>I've been logging on to this newsgroup for almost a year. I can still
>remember the time when the newsgroup was still not INFECTED by 
>Mr. Othman Ahmad. Ahhhh, those were the good old days.

>It amazes me how a graduate (I'm assuming here) student like him has
>the time to write all the crap that he's been putting on the newsgroup.
>I don't blame the people from the other ASEAN countries for wanting 
>a separate newsgroup, one which does not have Othman Ahmad and his 
>stale arguments. So do we Malaysians (most of us, anyway).

[Stuff Deleted]

>-- 
>Ahmad Faisal Adham Shaazi        | 
>Computer Engineering             | 
>Case Western Reserve University  | 
>Cleveland Ohio USA               | 

   I second you opinion.  I think sometimes he really overdo himself.  I used
to like to read S.C.A but lately I've seen too much of Mr. Othman.  
   I don't mind listening once a while to see how anoying he is sometimes, but
it seems he speaks without thinking about the consequence.  He's racist, and
I must admit he's a good choice to become a PAS member.  Not only he's racist,
he is also the most irritating man in the net (so far).
   I don't plan to remove him from the net, but I'll just ignore his post.  
Who would have like to listen to a man who talk nothing but garbage.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: mmuhamad@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malcom X
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:41:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <92326.235022C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> C4B@psuvm.psu.edu (*Eat Me*) writes:

>Don't waste your time here, (like many people do, including me) But I will be
>graduating in December, and I already had a job offer. 

So, you're trying to screw this newsgroup up before you leave huh?
Well that's pretty convincing after all you've done.

>By the way, it's sense of humor, not "humour" :)  <-- look ! the smiley !

It actually depends ... in case you're  still lack of trivial knowledge 
by the time you graduate ..  humour => British spelling like behaviour, colour
 etc etc .. and humor is American spelling.. since he's from Malaysia and has 
been adapted to British-based education system for quite long time .. that's
acceptable ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...)
Subject: Re: Oy !
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:28:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.141031.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg>, aa1111147@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg (Sunny TAN Chung-Yung (^_^)) writes:
>  
>  ARRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !                                         
> 
>  I thought this was supposed to be a *discussion* group... >:(

Apparently not...seems you must've been thinking of something else.  :)

Fal.

> 
>  _________________________________________________
>  | Sunny Chung-Yung TAN                   ______ /
>  | AA1111147@NTUVAX.BITNET    <or>      ______ /
>  | AA1111147@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG         ______ /     
>  | Nanyang Technological University ______ /
>  | Singapore                      ______ /
>  |_____________________________________/
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: On the contrary, Chua HL
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:23:16 GMT
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: po.berkeley.edu

In article <1e5delINN3ja@oak42.doc.ic.ac.uk> thc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tse Huong CHOO) writes:
>
>As I said, on the contrary. For one, u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au has
>expressed interest in this issue, so you should not presume to speak
>for the rest.
My point is, if she wants to email you about it, then use email to reply
to her. All the others who are interested in the issue can email you
about it. When Candy used email, she wanted to take the argument off the 
newsgroup, NOT in fear of posting here. As to u31[etc].edu.au, I think he was 
being sarcastic, not expressing interest. 

Also, please read up in news.announce.newusers about net etiquette. Email 
between two corresepondents should not be used in articles, and making fun
of someone's English is just deplorable. 

My apologies to other readers for wasting bandwidth. Followups to this 
post will go to alt.flame. 
>
>Tse
>

Chua
+==+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: TO YOU CHINESE..
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:40:32 GMT

Tee-Ming Ooi (to23+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Excerpts from mail: 15-Nov-92 Re: TO YOU CHINESE.. by YEW YAP@eng2.eng.monash. 
: > After reading the above statement, I feel I must express my opinion about 
: > Chinese racial superiority in Malaysia.How can you say that Chinese
: are not > a superior race when compared to the Malays. May I remind you
: that the 
: > glorious Chinese civilization was already building gigantic castles and 
: > cities thousands of years ago, when the "inferior" Malays and most of 
: > the world's other races were still hunting around in the jungles. 

The Malays recognise that the chinese are currently superior because of 
circumstances. That is why they ask for special privileges so that they can
catch up.

Special help is only for inferiour people, not for the superiour.

However you have other neo-nazi tone in your phrases. Since the chinese is
superior, the Malays can be exterminated economically and physically.
	Hopefully you're the minority, and the majority of the chinese are
not influenced by your propaganda.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: syl2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Simon Y Lam)
Subject: Re: Malcom X
Reply-To: Micheal I Sovern, President, Columbia U
Organization: The Bronx Zoo
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:19:22 GMT

In article 151433 *Eat Me* <C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote:



>>>In article <98219@netnews.upenn.edu>, mmuhamad@widget.seas.upenn.edu says:

>>> nlatif@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu writes:

>>>"Malcom X" the movie, opens today in the States. From all the promotions n
>>>stuff, this should be a good movie. Later.

>>>Hm....  Please dont mistake with the 'Malcom XL' or 'Malcom XXX' at the
>>>Times Square n 42nd street NYC :) - David Letterman



>Hmmm, both are from U. Penn. It's a good school isn't it ? How come you guys
>still write like a kid ? Quote from David Letterman ? Malcom XXX ?  NYC  ?

>What are these ? I think you guys have a lot to catch up in you readings. Why
>don't you guys try sending a letter home and ask for a book called " Ghuta
>Gimpala " It's a book on social behavior. And don't worry, it's in English !

>Guessing from your names, it is probable that you guys are Malays, and probably
>Muslim too. Hmmm, I guess your parents would be ashamed if they see your
>postings. Again, no flame intended here :)

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------>>Ps- moi ? flame ? ........naaaaah
>>_____________________________________________________________________________
	Chill out dude! What's your problem? Got Yeast infection problem or
something? Guessing from your name, you are a perverted and most possibbly
a repressed person. Why? Tired of playing with yourself and decided to 
post just for the cheap thrill.....nay , try alt.perverted.scumbag.repressed.
you'll fitt in just right. I guess you embarrased PSU people with your postings
here. Do you know a book called 'SEX' by Madonna? I think you should check it 
out. You need it badly, trust me. I guess your parents are proud to have a 
child like you. What are their name again, Al and Peggy Bundy? Take a cold 
shower bud!....Sorry I can *Eat Me* you, I have standard to maintain.

**********************************************************************
Tai Lo!*
**********************************************************************
Our football team is a loser but we beat Cornell..what does that make 
Cornell?.........

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: sleong@ee.ualberta.ca (Sai Leong)
Subject: Racial
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:36:49 GMT


While we are talking about racial tension in Malaysia, others are
pursuing how to tear this country apart.  I would certainly urge
all MALAYSIANs to work together.

	"Ask not what your country can do for you
	 Ask what you can do for your country"

						JFK

=====================================================================


18NOV92 PHILIPPINES: PHILIPPINE LAWMAKERS TELL RAMOS TO PURSUE SABAH.
      15:01 GMT [REUTR] R49211182723
 MANILA, Nov 18, Reuter - Thirty-two Philippine legislators led by the
speaker of congress urged President Fidel Ramos on Wednesday to take a
strong stand in pursuing Manila's territorial claim to Sabah, Malaysia. The
call appeared to run counter to statements by Foreign Secretary Roberto
Romulo that the administration was not keen on actively pursuing the claim,
which has strained relations between Manila and Kuala Lumpur for three
decades. The proposal was embodied in a resolution filed in the House of
Representatives by Speaker Jose de Venecia, a close ally of Ramos, and 31
other congressmen. The resolution calls for the creation of a bipartisan
legislative-executive committee to draft "the final Philippine position on
the Sabah claim, including the various modes of pursuing the claim, the
venue and schedule for implementation." "It is now time that the government
considers a firmer and stronger policy on Sabah with due regard to our
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
territorial integrity and national interest consistent with the
requirements of regional harmony and cooperation," the resolution adds. The
house foreign affairs committee will study the resolution and decide
whether or not to recommend it to the entire chamber for approval. "The
sentiment of the committee is to eventually pursue the claim," congressman
Jaime Lopez, its chairman, told reporters. Manila officially laid claim to
Sabah, the former British North Borneo, in 1962 saying it historically
belonged to the Filipino Sultan of Sulu. Kuala Lumpur has rejected the
claim and said the Sulu sultanate had ceded its rights to the territory.
Romulo told Malaysian officials on a visit to Kuala Lumpur in September
that the Ramos administration would not pursue the claim but could not drop
it outright without congress approval. (c) Reuters Limited
****************************
Lulu Turner
Dept of Political and Social Change
Research School of Pacific Studies
The Australian National University
GPO Box 4, Canberra ACT 2601
Tel: (06) 249 0173
Fax: (06) 257 1893
E-mail (Internet) lulu@coombs.anu.edu.au
*****************************
From: u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: On the contrary, Chua HL
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:45:36 +1100
Organization:  

thc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tse Huong CHOO):
> u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au has expressed interest

c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Fal):
> give him followups, or put his name in the relevant file.

Please don't.
What would it take to make some people realize that they were
being lampooned?

-Num
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ooi@sol.acs.unt.edu (Lay Wah Ooi)
Subject: Re: Significance?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:01:17 GMT

yu@plains.NoDak.edu (Albert Yu             ) writes:

>I'm very disappointed with the numerous bashing, etc. issues in this
>newsgroup! I wonder what is the true significant of this newsgroup?
>Shouldn't it be involved in cultural issues? Examples like local
>development, education, etc. After reading a couple of articles, I just feel
>bored to hell! Nothing interesting at all! All there is are something like:
>"Yasmin... Osman's...Chinaporeans...." What is this?

	I'm disappointed and getting tired of this also.  I don't read 
all those garbage discussions anymore, do you?  I think there is no point
for those people to argue at all, there is no conclusion every single
time people argue about races and things like that...  *sigh*  I'm tired...


Lay Wah.
From: nlatif@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Malcom X
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:19:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


"Malcom X" the movie, opens today in the States. From all the promotions n 
stuff, this should be a good movie. Later. 

Azli.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Othman's argument
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 06:36:22 GMT

Me Mann (mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: 
: Have it ever come across to you that there are SBC publicity officers that 
: are  Malay and also fluent only say in English and Malay? You seem to 

It did come across. But I was taling about Malay sensitivities. If you read
carefully what I said in earlier paragraphs, some of them may be wrong, but
which ones?
	SBC should be more careful with Malay sensitivities. How do you think
I feel when I heard that advertisement. Some times the first impression is
very important.

: have a lot of problem with this. I believe in SBC there must be quite a 
: number of positions for this post. Can I say currently they are looking
: for one that is fluent in Mandarin. Sometime ago and maybe in the future
: they will be looking for one that  is fluent in  Malay or Hindu.

If that were true, give it a proper tittle:
Mandarin Publicity Officer.
--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (l~{BmOHIz~}l)
Subject: Re: Request for folkgames
Organization: nanyang technological university
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:46:32 GMT

	Testing only. :-)
-- 
+-----------------------------+----------------------------------+
Division of Instr. & Control	Internet: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg 
Nanyang Technological Univ. 	Tel. (off.): (065) 799-5635
Nanyang Avenue S2263
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:55:32 EST
From: *Eat Me* <C4B@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: CHECK THIS OUT, OTHMAN

In article <1992Nov20.071017.5486@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mmohamme@nyx.cs.du.edu
(mokta mohammed) says:

>This message is for Othman

>You low life idiot, get a life.


>U have been annoying a whole lot of people not to mention
>wasting a lot of bandwidth with all your stupid crap!!!!
>You f*$#ing idiot, put your hormone to better use (if u have any)
>than flaming and igniting racial tension among your country men.
>Any flame for me should be posted in this newsgroup. Othman, I
>dare you!!!
>happy thanx giving.

>cheers
>mok, the main man

Yo brother, get a life you little piece of shit !  Ahaaaa, posting from your
free Unix account in NYX eh ? Come on, grow up dude !

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Ps - moi ? flame ? ...... naaaaaah
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: Happy Christmas And Merry New YEAR !!!!
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:38:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.020858.16805@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, u925979@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Hee Poh) writes:
|> 
|> Pardon me, please.
|> Isn't it a special festival for Indians right before the X'mas falls?
|> I have forgotten the name of it. Show me. Wil you?
|> Have a nice day to all Malaysian fellows.
|> 
You mean Deepavali ??  Usually falls around end-Nov.  Used to be told by my
Indian friends that it always rain on Deepavali (or the day before).  It was
connected to the legend of Deepavali itself.  Had never been able to proof
them wrong so far :).

Could someone knowledgeable please fill us in with the stories of Deepavali?
Would be a great diversion from all those network noise. 

...Kyle
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: limc@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (MAX THE EMPEROR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: TO YOU CHINESE..
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:19:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov12.214017.4059@memstvx1.memst.edu> isds11989009@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>HI...
>      ALL THESE ARTICLES ABOUT RACISM ARE SO BOOOOOOORING.....YOU KNOW WHY?..
>      BECAUSE YOU'LL CHINESE ACTING LIKE YOU'RE THE BEST RACE IN MALAYSIA..
>      WHY? EVEN I'M NOT MALAY ...

   Oops buddy, bad attempt on a joke....

                                  MAX THE EMPEROR.
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Motion.... Please Vote!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:15:27 GMT

9122011j@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Henry Choo ) writes:

>In article <1992Nov16.012358.13656@latcs1.lat.oz.au> koay@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jin S. Koay) writes:
>>	After reading Pak Othman's latest posting on his "deep" and "complete
>>research on the qualifications of Dato' Anwar Ibrahim and the statement of
>>"...ignorant Chinese...", I would like to urge all readers of this newsgroup
>>to vote on this motion that:
>>
>>	"Othman Ahmad & dogs' postings not allowed"
>>
>>	
>Dear Mr Koay,
>	nay, not a good idea at all, we need to have people like him
>posting to this news group or where is the fun of reading this. At least

 A person's nonsense & follies to some may not be fun though.

>it is entertaining. There have been a few people who have suggested what
>you have put forward before. I am afraid the response is similar to
>mine. Let Encik Othman stay, after all he does contribute to good
>articles ocassionally. I must say he does often speak his mind, at least
>he is honest in that respect :)
       ^^^^^^

       HONEST ? Ha.....ha....ha...ha.......ha..... Got to be
       the biggest joke of the century !

       A person who has serious mental problems ( unstable, irrational
       , at times insane, etc.. ) combined with his deep hatred for
       Chinese & non-muslims in general, HONESTY is certainly the
       last word in a dictionary to describe him. When a person is
       talking nonsense, can you say that he talks honestly ?


"En. Othman can fool some people some of the time,
but not all the people all the time."