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From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Promises, Promises
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:23:22 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <C1G7ss.K41@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil>, rovero@attu.oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero) writes:
> 
> The following was taken from the Sunday, 17 January, Monterey Peninsula
> Herald.  No author listed.  It's not Rush's list, but a list from some
> member of the media.  Not responsible for misspellings, all quotes are
> those of the author and refer to Clinton's actual words.
> 
> A PARTIAL LIST OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES
> 
> Here is a partial list, in no particular order, of promises Bill Clinton
> made during the presidential campaign.  Most are taken from Clinton's
> campaign book, "Putting People First", others from campaign speeches and
> literature.
> 
[.......] 
> + Add 100,000 new police officers to the streets, through a new police
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   corps and allowing those leaving the armed forces to get military
    ^^^^^
>   retirement credit for police work.

Now, this is a scary thought.  Can you imagine the response if, say, George 
Bush or [horrors] Pat Buchanan had said this during the campaign?
No doubt we'd be treated to documentary footage of storm troopers
goose-stepping down Berlinstrasse... 

Will we soon be hearing of the Clinton Corps?

(In fact, didn't Bob Dole say recently that *he* would introduce legislation
to this effect?)

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Paul Havemann   (Internet: paul@hsh.com)

   * They're not just opinions -- they're caffeine for the brain! *
         ** (Up to 50 milligrams per cynical observation.) **
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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Blacks on TV (was Re: LET THE BOYCOTT BEGIN!)
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:09:50 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

green@plains.NoDak.edu (Brad Green) writes:
-rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
->	Or perhaps the whole idea is absurd.  Who cares is cosby is 
->	a hypocrite?  Hell, anyone who didn't figure that out when he
->	started complaining about the media portrayal of blacks on
->	television (meanwhile, he just finished up the last season on
-
-Well, I think he had a point.  Give me one example of a positive black person
-on TV, other than Tibbs on In The Heat Of The Night.  Most blacks on TV are
-portrayed as idiots, dumb, worthless, etc.  Look at In Living Color, or any
-of the other dumb Fox programming.  Look at the major networks.  We used to
-have an intelligent investigator on Matlock, but he's now gone.  I usually
-watch intelligent programming, like Rush ;-), so I'm not up on all of it,
-maybe someone can give me some good role models for blacks on TV.

Lieutenant Uhura, Commander Sisko, Lt. Jordi (sp) LeForge :: all of Star
Trek series (pl) (original, Deep Space 9, Next Gen respectively). They
are all very intelligent people in positions of authority. I don't watch
Designing Women, so I can't comment on Meshach Taylor's role. Roc (Live)
has a wonderful ensemble of actors.

I do admit though, that there are not too many shows with
non-stereotypical blacks in key roles. Especially black Republicans. :)
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	BSE in BME in 1993
"You just can't promise something like that just to get elected if you
 know there's a good chance that circumstances may overtake you."
	- Bill Clinton, East Lansing MI debate, Mon Oct 19 1992
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From: gadson@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAWS (Re: Read this if you are straight!)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 00:01 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu

In article <farenebt.728024608@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy) writes...
|mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
| 
|>Look up Plessy v Ferguson sometime.  We'd be better off without 
|>anti-discrimination laws - YES.  We'd be much better off without
|>laws that discriminate, which is a better place to focus.
| 
|I won't get into a debate about discrimination in private places but
|there is no way in hell that we should go back to "separate but
|equal" on public places.

	I think that's just what he was trying to say.  "Separate-
but-equal" governmental policies constitute laws that discriminate.

Gadson


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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: garrod@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (David Garrod)
Subject: Re: Lying Politicians
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:06:24 GMT

In article <105120061@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Pat Murphy) writes:
> 
> 	so??!!   name one president/senator/congressman who did
> 	NOT lie/break promises/deceive to get elected.  why should
> 	you be surprised that slick willie has done and is doing
> 	the same thing??  all this *list of broken promises* is
> 	proffered by rush for entertainment purposes.  you ought
> 	to star thinking for yourself and stop living in a
> 	vaccuum...  [not meant as a flame]  do you really believe
> 	there is such an animal as an *honest politician*??!
> 
> 

The point is as long as we meekly accept sleazy, lying-scum politicians
that is precisely what we will get.  This administration is different
from previous ones in that the lying of slick Willie and the string
of broken promises is at a level that has never previously happened
this soon in an administration and to such an extent.

Unless people speak out and tell the politicians such behavior is
NOT acceptable, nothing will change.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton
From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Subject: Re: God is intolerant of sin!
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
	<MDL.93Jan22010148@nv.cypress.com> <1993Jan22.214221.19382@s1.gov>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:19:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.214221.19382@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:


   In article <MDL.93Jan22010148@nv.cypress.com> mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum) writes:
   >In article <1jmogjINNpp4@hp-col.col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:

   :   Like Leviticus?  Anyone who questions why Christians view 
   :   homosexuality as wrong, but don't have a problem with eating 
   :   pork, haven't the slightest clue as to what Christians believe 
   :   on these things, or why.  Definitly one of the more bizarre 
   :   red herrings you'll find.  

   :I swore I wasn't going to get involved in this one, but don't a lot of
   :Christians say "we bring forth the moral teachings of the bible, not
   :the cultural abberations of the time"?  In other words, thou shalt not
   :kill, but wear any type of clothing you want.  or, love thy neighbor,
   :don't cut his hand off if he steals...

	   And how _does_ one tell the difference between "moral
   teachings" and "cultural aberrations"? There's isn't much of a line
   drawn in the Bible :-) 

Of course, there wouldn't be a discussion if there were a clear line
drawn.  You may be confusing those who believe in the literal word of
the bible (or their interpretation of the literal meaning) with others
that believe God gave man a brain for a reason.  There are those who
believe the "answers" are not specifically given and that man is
supposed to find them.  Anyway, I think we can use basic philosophical
ethics to begin determining the difference between a cultural
abberation and a moral position.

   And I dislike the implication that forbidding
   murder and theft is specifically Biblical. 

Who implied that?  I guess I haven't followed the thread carefully enough.
Certainly I didn't impy that.

   I've hever heard of a
   legislator who did not specify some penalty for these actions. And
   I've never heard of anybody being excommunicated for being a hired
   murderer (say).  All we are told is that the can be _forgiven_. And let
   us not forget about all the murder and theft that the Israelites were
   described as committing as they conquered Canaan...

If there is a God, and "he" gave man free will, I don't see why he
would expect man to shut off his brain.  Hey, I sound like Galileo :-)
But, I'll get the hell on another group with this one.
--


Matt Landrum, CAD Engineer      | e-mail: mdl@cypress.com
Cypress Southeast Design Center | office: (601) 324-4609, FAX - 4614
1 Research Blvd, Suite 200      | "You can get what you want if you
Starkville, MS  39759           | know how to find it." -- Tower of Power


Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Rush Military Record
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:22:57 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Jan 93 00:38:53 GMT, jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) said:
  [...]
jrs> He wasn't in the military - he had both school and physical
jrs> deferments (pylonidal cysts).

Hmm. School deferments for attending college. And called for a physical to
get a 4F? Lucky Rush!

  [...]

jrs> How about you, fat boy? What have you done for your country
jrs> except to waste taxpayer dollars posting to the net? After
jrs> all, if you believe that one has to be in the military in
jrs> order to comment on it, then surely you have served your
jrs> country with distinction, honor, and valor.

And how many tax bucks have been wasted posting reams of ASCII and 
Postscripted transcripts of the Great One? Arguably a helluva waste 
of bandwidth, to say nothing of a youngster's empty and meaningless 
life, recording every utterance of the Rush.

And how's your own military record, JRS? Are ya Class of 65, Viet marine?
Or have you ever been exposed to the military draft, with your country at
war and your high school buddies coming back for closed casket burials?
Did you come home to long haired dope smoking hippies who were spitting at
you and calling you a baby killer? All while the rich college boys had
them "educational" deferments, driving Corvettes and chasing the sorority
girls? What do *you* know about the Vietnam war, anyway?

After all, it would appear that you are quick to defend the great Rush
Limbaugh, clearly someone who believes the draft dodging and other
character defects make Clinton unfit for the presidency. Seems like anyone
with such a strong viewpoint ought to be able to point to his own military
service as some example. Or shut up permanently about Bill Clinton and 
Dan Quayle and their draft dodgings.

>I'm sure many of you Shittos have the full record of Rush Limpboy's
>military valor.  Please feel free to post all information here on the NET.

jrs> That's why the net is here, and thanks to the First
jrs> Amendment, even non-thinking Shittos like you can post your
jrs> views, even if they mean nothing. (By the way, I hope that
jrs> you don't mind me borrowing your incredibly intelligent and
jrs> descriptive terms - since you used them, I assume that they
jrs> have some meaning beside the obvious pejoratives.)  -- John

Hey. As Rush says: Words *mean* things! (uhh duhh..)

It certainly got you going, didn't it? That in itself gave it meaning.
L.
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Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are CORRECT, mine, and not PSLs or NMSUs..
I admit the deed! Tear up the planks! It is the beating of his hideous
"Don't. Stop. Thinking about tomorrow."
From: jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Adios (and good riddance)
Summary: SCUP
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:54:09 GMT
Organization: -

In article <1jpd34INNmel@transfer.stratus.com>, 
markc@eomer.hw.stratus.com (Mark Christensen) writes:

> My apologies to everyone if my remarks in the last few
> replies have seemed a bit testy.  I find the attitudes
> of Melinda, Tim, Robert, and some others to be quite
> hateful, bitter and their agenda quite plain, not to mention all the
> filthy communication that proceeds from their mouths (keyboards).

Oh please, spare us the self-righteous crap!  
(You are right about one thing though, equality is a very plain
agenda.)

> There can and will be no compromise from me and most likely will
> be no understanding on either side from you.  So to
> keep from getting further angered, i will not be submitting
> any more responses to the above named folk.  This isn't
> a blanket promise, for one never knows what will cause
> me to react.  But I will attempt to honor this.
>   As for you, Melinda, Tim, Robert, etc.  I hope you
> someday see the error of your way.  

Exactly what was the error of their ways?  Disagreeing with you?

> I know you find such
> a statement as narrow-minded or intolerant.  

Well there's something we can agree on.

> I believe
> you have done more in the last few days to harm your
> agenda than to help it.  

Oh, right Mark.  You've showed no understanding or comprehension of
the other side of this arguement what so ever.  You openly state that
you won't compromise.  Whenever cornered you change your tone, deny
that you said the things you wrote, and hide behind biblical passages. 
Though you will deny it, your agenda is of harm to many of us.  

Frankly, the above sounds like a threat.  Now that your hypocracy and
inconsistancy has been displayed to everyone (by Melinda and others)
you imply that if they were "nice" to you, you'd be willing to "grant"
them equality.  Yea, right.

> There is only one way to escape 
> the penalty of sin...and that is through Jesus Christ.
> We ALL stand condemned...yes even me.  The difference is,
> I repented of my sin and have accepted that precious gift
> which Christ has offered.  Eternal salvation through the
> shed blood of Christ Jesus.

Well, I hope you enjoyed your public comfession, but it really doesn't
have much to do with any of the arguements you've been presented. 
Perhaps you need to spend less time repenting and more time thinking.

>   As for you Walter...sorry to leave you alone to battle
> it out.  If I see you sinking, I'll jump in to help.  I 
> don't know anything about you or your positions, but you
> seem to have a good head on your shoulders.
> 

You haven't been reading Walter long have you?

Jim
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From: gerberrl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Richard L. Gerberding)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Al Gore on C-SPAN
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:52:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: gerberrl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Richard L. Gerberding)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o200c-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

Our new, respectable, vice president has shown how honorable he really is.   
Yesterday afternoon on shortly after the Inaugural Parade Al come into the  
screen and said "I want some more!  I'm ready for more! What happened to  
this ___________ is BULLSH** if you ask me!"  We were unable to figure out  
what he was referring to as the solid wastes of a male bovine, but the  
point is that regardless of what it is, I don't recall Dan Quayle ever  
crying about a parade ending.  Maybe Al was just upset that there wasn't a  
Santa Claus at the end of the parade?

--

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"If all our neighborhoods were like Mr. Roger's Neighborhood, we'd live in  
a happier country." - Bill Clinton   Any guesses what would have happened  
if Dan had said this???
From: car@access.digex.com (Mr. Blue)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Breaking Campaign Promises
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:55:48 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

While a lot of attention is being paid to the breaking of campaign
promises, just remember this. Did we want Bill to keep  most of those
promises anyway?

It could be argued that we are better off that Bill *IS* breaking
his campaign promises.

Think about it.




Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: More Proof Yu Can't Trust Democrats!!!
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:01:22 GMT

barton@stiller.jjc.vyi  (Mike Barton) writes:
] 
] I remember growing up on stories about my old grand pa who lied about a bad
] heart condition so as to be able to fight the Nazis.  Then there was old
] JFK who went to fight in the Pacific even though he had a serious back
] problem.  
] 
] Both men were democrats.


Well I guess that says all that needs to be Said.

At Least Rush was Honest, and admitted he had
to go to college.....


ciao
drieux




-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 

"If you will not talk with Yourself, 
Why should anyone else?"
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: control
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:23:00 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <C1CFKw.4r8@ddsw1.mcs.com> karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
>In article <1993Jan17.225747.26775@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>>Can you point to any laws in our society which permit a person's bodily
>>resources to be taken away without their consent?
>
>Easily.  Forced fatherhood and child support without the consent of the
>father to the birth.
>
>Unless, of course, you don't consider a person's mind and body (muscle
>power) to be a bodily resource.

I don't consider a person's wallet to be a bodily resource.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.homosexuality
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: God is intolerant of sin!
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:40:46 GMT

In article <1jmoioINNpp5@hp-col.col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:

>Really?  Paul had nothing to say in the Bible about it?  What does 
>the recently cited parts of Romans, etc, mean to you?  

I find the theory that these passages are mistranslated from the Greek
most plausible.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: saari@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jonathan Saari)
Subject: Re: Clinton & the Press
Reply-To: saari@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:14:53 GMT

In article 24029@hubcap.clemson.edu, tendico@hubcap.clemson.edu (Todd Endicott) writes:
> Hi there. I'm just curious about how the conservatives view the recent
> ragging of Clinton in the press; seems to me this kind of weakens their
> standby complaint about the "liberal media". Comments anyone?
> 
> Disclaimer: I'm no Clinton fan; I voted for Marrou.
> -- 
> Todd Endicott
> tendico@hubcap.clemson.edu					 "Yow!"

Well, even the liberal media cannot stand by and not say anything about the
large number of campaign promises that are being broken even before the man 
reached office. They do, however, call it "re-evaluating" and "assessing the current
situation" as opposed to "broken promises" or "lying". They also never seem to miss
a chance to insert the Clinton claim that all of these "re-evaluations" are caused
by something the Bush administration did... even though the predicted deficit
change that the incoming administration is blaming for not being able to halve it in
four years is 100 billion lower thatn Clinton's people predicted... (no mention of
that in the liberal media)

READ MY LIPS... no middle class tax cut!!!!

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