HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: treese@lcs.mit.edu (Win Treese)
Subject: Re: Excuse me, but isn't this 1992?
Organization: MIT LCS/DEC CRL
	<1992Oct8.023025.10148@cognos.com> <0WHRBSKB@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:40:37 GMT


In article <0WHRBSKB@cc.swarthmore.edu> hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) writes:

   There comes a time when it's a good idea to not support the PDP-11's and the
   VAX 11/780's anymore.  Yes, I know DEC doesn't sell 'em anymore but I vaguely
   remember Gail saying that DEC still supports PDP-11's.  Is that necessarily
   a good thing?


Digital still sells PDP-11s.  Lots of them.

Win Treese
MIT Laboratory for Computer Science                  DEC Cambridge Research Lab
treese@lcs.mit.edu					     treese@crl.dec.com

	Calvin's Prayer:

	"The strength to change what I can,
	 The inability to accept what I can't,
	 And the incapacity to tell the difference."



Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: geiste@hsi.com (Doug Geiste)
Subject: Bad Blocks
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:00:43 GMT

I have an RD53 as a secondary drive and while performing a backup (dd), it
tells me :

 DUMP: (This should not happen)bread from /dev/rra1a [block 2480]: count=8192,
got=-1
  DUMP: (This should not happen)bread from /dev/rra1a [block 7392]: count=8192,
got=-1
  DUMP: (This should not happen)bread from /dev/rra1a [block 19472]: count=8192,
 got=-1

Yet, when running fsck, it's fine. I have a Mvax II with ULTRIX 4.1. RD54 is the
primary drive. How can I declare these blocks as being bad?

Thanks.


-- 
 Doug Geiste                           ||   "We are all faced with a series
 3M Health Information Systems         ||    of great opportunities brilliantly
 ...!uunet!his!geiste                  ||    disguised as impossible situations"
 geiste@hsi.com                        ||
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: seaney@engr.wisc.edu
Subject: Troubling With PBMPlus
Organization: Univ of Wisconsin Madison
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:56:04 CDT

 
I'm trying to install PBMPlus on a DecStations 5000/125 with Ultrix 42A.
Everything makes fine but I keep getting errors of 'Unable to write file'.  

Has anyone out there install PBMPlus?  Is there a trick on Ultrix?

Thanks,
Steve
From: lhawkins@olaf.wellesley.edu (Lee Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: VXT's, xdm, and UPGRADE/ADVANCED security....
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:22:32 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College

Hi all:
I decided to upgrade my DECstation to UPGRADE security level today, and
was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was.  -Then- I tried to login
in from one of our VXT2000's and was unable to (login incorrect).  A 
call to DEC confirmed my suspicions: If you are running xdm to support
Xsessions on a VXT2000, you can't use UPGRADE/ENHANCED security, because
xdm uses crypt, and U/E sec. uses crypt16.  When I asked for a solution,
I was told: "Well, it's a catch-22: xdm is unsupported, so you'll have to
fix it yourself, or wait around for us to.  In the meantime, we suggest
you either not run U/E sec. or not use your VXT's for Xsessions."
Yeah! Right! What a good solution!

Am I the only person out there who has had this problem, and if not, has
anybody else fixed it?  If not, where can I get the xdm sources so I can
at least try to fix it?


Thanks in advance,
--Lee
________________________________________________________________________________
R. Lee Hawkins					 lhawkins@annie.wellesley.edu
Department of Astronomy				 lhawkins@lucy.wellesley.edu
Whitin Observatory
Wellesley College                                   Ph. 617-283-2708
Wellesley, MA 02181                                 FAX 617-283-3642
________________________________________________________________________________
From: jew@rt.sunquest.com (/87336)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: pty under Ultrix 4.2
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:06:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems

I compiled pty under Ultrix 4.2 today.  Everything seemed fine.  When
I execute it, it exits stating there are no available ptys.  Low and
behold it has made this a true statement!  I had to reboot to regain
them!  Does anyone out there use pty?  If so, what steps in the
configuration did I miss?
--
jew@sunquest.com

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: "Michael Schneider" <BD14@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: HPScanJet IIc ....
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:42:35 GMT


> We have a Hewlett Packard ScanJet IIc that we have connected to an
> Apple MacIntosh via the SCSI bus. We would like to be able to connect
> this scanner to our DS5000/200. Is this possible? If so, is there
> software available that will allow me to scan in an image and save it
> to disk? Thanks for the info.
>
>         Ed Jones
>         Wright State University
>         Signal Detection Lab
>         Dept. of Psychology

We have a HP ScanJet IIc connected via SCSI to a DS5000/125.
The scanning software is Pixel!Fx from Mentalix(tel:(214)423-9377).
To connect the scanner to your DS5000 you need:
  - Ultrix 4.2a
  - SCSI/CAM
  - DB25 SCSI-terminator and a DB50 to Centronics cable
  - 50MB swap and 12MB memory
Ask Mentalix for a validation copy.

         micha

========================================================================
        Michael Schneider
        Universitaet Karlsruhe
        Inst. fuer Exp. Kernphysik
        micha@ekpux2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de
        BD14 at DKAUNI2.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: "Michael Schneider" <BD14@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: HP ScanJet IIc on DS5000/200?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:42:53 GMT

        Michael Schneider
        Universitaet Karlsruhe
        Inst. fuer Exp. Kernphysik
        Physikhochhaus, P.O.Box 6980
        D-7500 Karlsruhe
        Tel. (721)-608-3576
        micha@ekpux2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de
        BD14 at DKAUNI2.BITNET
        micha@ekpux2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de


> We have a Hewlett Packard ScanJet IIc that we have connected to an
> Apple MacIntosh via the SCSI bus. We would like to be able to connect
> this scanner to our DS5000/200. Is this possible? If so, is there
> software available that will allow me to scan in an image and save it
> to disk? Thanks for the info.
>
>         Ed Jones
>         Wright State University
>         Signal Detection Lab
>         Dept. of Psychology

We have a HP ScanJet IIc connected via SCSI to a DS5000/125.
The scanning software is Pixel!Fx from Mentalix(tel:(214)423-9377).
To connect the scanner to your DS5000 you need:
  - Ultrix 4.2a
  - SCSI/CAM
  - DB25 SCSI-terminator and a DB50 to Centronics cable
  - 50MB swap and 12MB memory
Ask Mentalix for a validation copy.

         micha
From: ehrlich@smith.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Dan Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: "chgrp: change group for foo: Not owner" - Bug or (Mis)Feature?
Summary: Can not chgrp a file that I own to a group I am in.
Keywords: ULTRIX, 4.2A, rev 47
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:39:04 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

We have seem to found a bug in the ULTRIX implementation of NFS.  It is
not possible for a user to change the group ownership of a file that
they own to a group that they are in.  Here is the setup.  My home
directory is on the file server named smith.  If I try the chgrp from
smith it works as expected.  If I try the chgrp from dandelion (a
client machine) which has to automount my home directory it fails.  The
automount map specifies that attribute caching is to be disabled
(-noac).

Is this really a bug?  Is it a (mis)feature of ULTIX 4.2A?  Is it fixed
in ULTRIX 4.3?  Does anyone know the answer to any of these questions?

Here is a script file demonstrating the problem:

  Script started on Mon Oct 12 14:16:05 1992
  smith 1% pwd
  /export/home/smith.1/ehrlich/tmp
  smith 2% ll -a
  total 2
  drwx------  2 ehrlich  staff         512 Oct 12 14:12 ./
  drwx--x--x 14 ehrlich  staff        1024 Oct 12 14:15 ../
  -rw-r--r--  1 ehrlich  systaff         0 Oct 12 14:12 foo
  smith 3% groups
  staff systaff zmailer taco
  smith 4% chgrp systaff foo
  smith 5% ll foo
  -rw-r--r--  1 ehrlich  systaff         0 Oct 12 14:12 foo
  smith 6% chgrp taco foo
  smith 7% ll foo
  -rw-r--r--  1 ehrlich  taco            0 Oct 12 14:12 foo
  smith 8% chown ehrlich.staff foo
  smith 9% ll foo
  -rw-r--r--  1 ehrlich  staff           0 Oct 12 14:12 foo
  smith 10% chown ehrlich.zmailer foo
  smith 11% ll foo
  -rw-r--r--  1 ehrlich  zmailer         0 Oct 12 14:12 foo
  smith 12% exit
  
  script done on Mon Oct 12 14:17:10 1992
  
  Script started on Mon Oct 12 14:22:24 1992
  dandelion 1% pwd
  /auto/home/smith/smith.1/ehrlich/tmp
  dandelion 2% df .
  Filesystem   Total    kbytes   kbytes   %     
  node         kbytes   used     free     used  Mounted on
  smith:/expor 1312829  225970  955577    19%   /auto/home/smith/smith.1
  dandelion 3% ll -a
  total 2
  drwx------  2 ehrlich  staff         512 Oct 12 14:12 ./
  drwx--x--x 14 ehrlich  staff        1024 Oct 12 14:15 ../
  -rw-r--r--  1 ehrlich  zmailer         0 Oct 12 14:12 foo
  dandelion 4% groups
  staff zmailer systaff taco
  dandelion 5% chgrp staff foo
  chgrp: change group for foo: Not owner
  dandelion 6% chown ehrlich.staff foo
  chown: can't change ownership of foo: Not owner
  dandelion 7% perl
  chown 39,10,"foo";
  print $!,"\n";
  ^D
  Not owner
  dandelion 8% exit
  
  script done on Mon Oct 12 14:24:02 1992
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: rjones@pa.dec.com (Russ Jones)
Subject: Re: R4000 CPU upgrades for DECStation 5000s
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:00:47 GMT

David,

The part numbers you mentioned are for customers ordering a new DECstation and need to have a guarantee of not-to-exceed pricing for the R4000 CPU daughtercard.  The R4000 CPU daughtercards themselve have not been formally announced, so - unfortunately - there are no performance numbers to quote.

Our expectation right now is to be shipping R4000 CPU daughtercards in volume in
Q2 of CY1993.  The R4000 CPU daughtercards will be supported by a follow-on version of ULTRIX 4.3.

Thanks for the order!

-- 
Russ Jones
U.S. Graphics Workstation Marketing Mgr
Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and not necessarily those of my employer
Xref: sparky comp.unix.ultrix:7458 comp.os.vms:16234 comp.os.msdos.apps:5086
From: solomon@rodin33.kns.com (Larry Solomon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.os.vms,comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: wordperfect and decwrite filter conversion ?
Keywords: DECwrite DECpresent Wordperfect filters .cda_options
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:47:29 GMT
Organization: Kulicke and Soffa Ind. Inc., Willow Grove, PA


We are searching for a conversion program or procedure
that will convert Word Perfect documents to / from
DECwrite and DECpresent.  The program should retain as
much of the original document format as possible.

Live links are not required as each document stands alone.

Is there a .cda_filter that can be added to DECwrite to
do the conversion during export/import?

Thanks for your suggestions, I will summarize your replies.
Larry Solomon

Please respond to solomon@kns.com
From: peter@serv2.essex.ac.uk (Peter Allott)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: /etc/exports
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:58:45 GMT
Reply-To: peter@serv2.essex.ac.uk (Peter Allott)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

Can any one tell me if it is possible to arrange /etc/exports so that
a directory can be mounted by all our hosts, but give root (-r=0) access
from only a small subset of hosts (2 or 3)?
From: thomas@lkg.dec.com (Matt Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Outgoing LAT client(?)
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:22:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Oct7.172206.11675
Reply-To: thomas@lkg.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct7.161004.22803@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, DAVISM@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis) writes:
|>        Does anyone know of a client which supports outgoing LAT, similar to
|>VMS' SET HOST/LAT command?  We are running 4.2a on a DECstation 5000/240.

Sorry, ULTRIX doesn't support that functionality.
--
Matt Thomas                     Internet:   thomas@lkg.dec.com
DECnet-ULTRIX Development       UUCP:       ...!decwrl!thomas
Digital Equipment Corporation   Disclaimer: This message reflects my own
Littleton, MA                               warped views, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio)
Subject: Re: Faxmodem software for DS5000/200?
Reply-To: avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:06:49 GMT


YOuy can purchase FAXserver software from Digital.  It allows receiving
and sending of FAXes, storage, and works with a program front-end or
via mail or lpr.  FAXes can remain stored with a mail notification going
to an administrator.  Outgoing FAXes access can be controlled by type of
phone call and linked to user@host information.

F
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: karrer@bernina.ethz.ch (Andreas Karrer)
Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2 dd brain damage
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:12:40 GMT

frank@croton.nyo.dec.com (Frank Wortner) writes:


>In article <61269@aurs01.UUCP>, davis@aurs01.UUCP (Alan Davis) writes:

>|>This isn't the only case where DEC blew the man page updates. Sun fixed
>|>theirs, it correctly calls a word 4 bytes.

I'd say the word "word" has lost any meaning. The VMS people call
16-bit entities "word", 32 "longword", and 64 "quadword".

>IFF the machine has a 32-bit CPU.  On a 16 bit machine a "word" is 2 8-bit
>bytes, while on a 64-bit machine, a "word" is *8* 8-bit bytes.  Assuming
>that a "word" is some constant size accross all machines is incorrect.

"machine word", perhaps?

+-----------
  Andi Karrer, Communication Systems, ETH Zuerich, Switzerland
  karrer@bernina.ethz.ch    - Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: smith@clion.shr.dec.com (Shrewsbury ECAD group.)
Subject: Re: DECsystem 5500 and external SCSI devices
Reply-To: joe@shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:33:15 GMT

I have a DECsystem 5500 with 3-RF73's internally, 4-RZ57's externally, sitting
in BA42 storage expansion boxes, a TLZ04 and an RRD40. The cable I use to
connect the SCSI bus to the first external expansion device is a BC06P-06. We
haven't experienced any SCSI problems at all...

Whether digital SUPPORTS this configuration, I have no idea (although I can't
see why they wouldn't)....

Good Luck,
Joe Smith
Xref: sparky comp.unix.ultrix:7487 comp.sys.dec:5372
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann)
Subject: Moving PMAGB-BA HX card from 5000/240 to 5000/200
Organization: Ziebmef home away from home
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:42:46 GMT

[I should have thought asking here earlier.]

 We're trying to move an HX graphics card (said PMAGB-BA HX 8-plane
colour card) from a 5000/240 where it was temporarily installed to a
5000/200 that is its real home, and, well, it isn't working. The
5000/200 doesn't recognize it as a console device, and neither does
Ultrix (more or less: kernel configuration messages vanish into thin
air, but everything else talks to the serial terminal). The card still
works fine in the 5000/240, and the rest of the hardware is identical.

 Does anyone have any ideas about what the problem is? Does a HX card
work in a 5000/200 (when we ordered it, we were told it did, but I'd
like to make sure)? Does it need a specific revision of the ROM
monitor that we may not have?

 Thanks in advance; I'll send a summary to anyone who's interested.

--
    ported program:	  a program which takes constant or increasing
			  effort to port to each new machine.
    portable program: a program which takes less effort to port to
		      each new machine.
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu	           ...!{utgpu,utzoo,watmath}!utgpu!cks
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: horst@faui63.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Horst Luehrsen)
Subject: Re: catpw lists /etc/passwd twice
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:33:00 GMT

horst@faui63.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Horst Luehrsen) writes:

>On our DECstation 5200 with Ultrix 4.2 the following occurs when I issue
>the command "catpw":
>- the content of /etc/passwd is printed
>- the content of /etc/passwd is printed again
>- the NIS passwd map is listed

After trying some combinations of entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/svc.conf
I found the following results:

/etc/passwd		/etc/svc.conf		result

with +:			passwd=local,yp		catpw list twice /etc/passwd
with +:			passwd=local		NIS doesn't work
without +:		passwd=local,yp		NIS doesn't work
with +:			passwd=yp		catpw works fine

But my manuals say I always should use passwd=local,yp. Isn't this strange?

	Horst


 Horst Luehrsen <luehrsen@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> |
 Martensstrasse 3, W-8520 Erlangen                    | Kein Spruch
 Tel: +49-9131-857884  Fax:+49-9131-32090             |
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Disktab entry for M2652SA 2 gig fujitsu?
From: ejones@desire.wright.edu
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:33:36 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

Does anyone have a disktab entry for a Fujitsu 2652SA? This is their
2 gig drive. The disktab on gatekeeper doesn't contain this new
drive. Thanks for the help.

	Ed Jones

Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: torstein@itek.norut.no (Torstein Meyer)
Subject: "Logitech" mouse for DECstation 5020 ??????
Keywords: mouse logitech decstation
Reply-To: torstein@itek.norut.no (Torstein Meyer)
Organization: FORUT Information Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:02:10 GMT

Has anyone got hold of a proper "Logitech" mouse for DECstation.
It would be nice to have a VSXXX-GA mouse in setad of the useless VSXXX-AA which terrifies a number of our users as it is being impossible to use and still avoid a damaged hand / wrist !!
Please do tell me if this is available .....
--
Torstein Meyer (Sys.Cons.) +47 83 80150 (fax:82420)
	FORUT IT AS, NORUT-gruppen AS, N-9005 Tromsoe, Norway
torstein.meyer@itek.norut.no
	C=no;A=;P=uninett;O=norut;OU=itek;CN=torstein.meyer
From: mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Garrett Internet: mark@arvak.une.edu.au Phone: +61 66 20 3859)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: what does "talk" mean when it says: You don't exist. Go away.?
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:37:34 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <1992Sep25.030146.18505@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, by mcba@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Michael C. B. Ashley):
> Hi,
> 
> A few users are complaining that when they use "talk" it responds with
> 
> "You don't exist. Go away."

	Check that talk has permission to read /etc/ttys

> Incidentally, has anyone a solution for the huge numbers of "ntalkd"
> processes that ULTRIX leaves lying around? Sometimes I go for days
> without any of them, and then I might get 50 or so in a day. This

	Maybe the first will fix the second.

> problem has been brought up several times in this newsgroup, and I
> haven't seen an answer.

	First I've seen the question. I hope this is the answer.


	Cheers
		Mark :)
-- 
Mark Garrett	Internet:  mark@arvak.une.edu.au	Phone: 	+61 66 20 3859
   University of New England, Northern Rivers, Lismore NSW Australia.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2 dd brain damage
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:29:40 GMT

roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:

>davis@aurw17.aur.alcatel.com.UUCP (Alan Davis) writes:
>>Ultrix 4.2 and SunOs 4.1.1 both agree on this behaviour.  The DEC man
>>page seems to indicate the behaviour you *expect*.  However, since a
>>'word' on these machines is 32 bits, what we seem to get is 512*(4
>>bytes/word)=2048 bytes. 
>>
>>This isn't the only case where DEC blew the man page updates. Sun fixed
>>theirs, it correctly calls a word 4 bytes.

>	"Seems to indicate"?  You're being too kind.  I quote from the
>man page, "[...]  or w for words (2 bytes)".  Feh!  Poor or ambigious
>documentation may be no better than no documentation at all, but
>explicitly erroneous documentation is much worse than either.  I would
>call this a documentation bug, but according to the man pages, Ultrix
>doesn't have any bugs.  Perhaps it's a man page restriction.

>	And, yes, of course I realize that it's taking the word size
>to be 4 bytes.  The point is, had the man page simply said "word
>size", I would have thought, "hey, I'm not sure what the word size is
>on this machine, I'd better play it safe and write 512x2 which is what
>I really want".  It's been a long time since I've known or cared about
>the word size on the particular hardware I happen to be using.


If you do not wish to care about "word size on the particular hardware",
then I suggest that you do not use "word" arguments to commands. The
man page is indeed erroneous but that is superior to having the "dd"
command be erroneous. Mind you, it would be VERY nice to see that error
removed, especially as it is already parenthesized.

Charlie
-- 
*****************************************************************************
*  Charles Richmond 	Integrated International Systems Corporation        *
*  cmr@world.std.com	(Temporary) cmr@koneko.shr.dec.com		    *
*  Specializing in UNIX, X, Image Processing, and Communications.           *
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: NSR bug/gripe-- dates.
Organization: CS
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:03:51 GMT



(For some reason, everytime I post something about nsr, I get 3 
requests from people asking me what NSR is.  Don't ask.  Call your
sales dude, that's what he's for.)

On to the bug:
DEC nsr won't let me set the expiration on a tape to dec 31, 1999, 23:59.

# mm -m -l -f /dev/nrmt0h -e '12/31/99 23:59' dec_cadtools
mm:                                                                                       12/31/99 23:59 not a valid argument for -e
usage: mm -m [-v] [-f device] [-r | [-e expiration] [-c capacity]] [volume]
blah blah

#mm -m -l -f /dev/nrmt0h -e '12/31/1999 23:59' dec_cadtools 
mm:                                                                                     12/31/1999 23:59 not a valid argument for -e
usage: mm -m [-v] [-f device] [-r | [-e expiration] [-c capacity]] [volume]


But:
# mm -m -l -f /dev/nrmt0h -e '12/31/98 23:59' dec_cadtools 

works like a champ.


-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: psikr01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Peter Kretschmar)
Subject: Can I auto-start different DECterms?
Summary: Is it possible to have different virtual terminals on login?
Keywords: Ultrix, DECterm, auto-start,.XDefaults
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:31:24 GMT

Hi there -
This might be a newbie question, but at the moment I've got no clue where
to find info on this, except this newsgroup ...

I'm a relatively new user of Ultrix. Playing around with the session manager
tool, I've managed to have my preferred applications (2 DECterms, calendar, ...)
auto-started on login. Now I'd like these DECterms to have different default
settings from the start - I now how to save and "Use Saved Settings from ..."
but I'd rather prefer not having to recall the different settings on each
login (I can't just lock the screen - other colleagues use the station as well).

Is there a possibility of automatically assigning *different* parameters to
DECterms auto-started on login? I've looked into the .XDefaults file but
there only the applications themselves are mentioned. Any pointers to more
information on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Peter


--
Peter Kretschmar
psikr01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix