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From: rickc@agora.rain.com (Rick Coates)
Subject: Re: DoD BANDANAS --- at long last..... (sorry).....
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:38:12 GMT

Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:


>                           DoD BANDANAS

>I've finally received the bids for an appropriate DoD Bandana.  The problem
>that I had is that I insisted on 100% cotton and most bids came in for some
>blended fabric.

100% cotton?  Does the DoD follow Leviticus, now?  No mixing of
fibers!  Are you sure that 100% polyester isn't more in keeping with
the tradition?

How about wrinkles?  I know, I know, a DoD iron...

(Yes, I'm sending in my order...)

Rick
rickc@agora.rain.com
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: 383cid SB Chevy - AGAIN
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:06:07 GMT
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->        3.750       +       5.565     +       1.56       = 10.875
-> As  you  see  I  got  two  different results - this means that the
-> deck height of a 350 isn't the same as that of a 383 (or 400). Why ?
-> Where's the error ?  I always thought the 400 rods compensate the
-> longer stroke in  such  a  manner  that  both  350  &  400  have
-> equal  deck-height.

 Both blocks are nominally 9.020.  Your error was quite simple (I've
done it too!) - you only use HALF the stroke to figure assembled height.

 You'll notice the numbers still don't quite come out right.  That's
because most assemblies usually come out .020-.050 below the deck.  When
mixing and matching parts it's also possible to come out with a positive
deck height, which is still OK as long as it's not more than the
compressed thickness of your head gasket.
                                                                                                                   

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Subject: Re: Ethenol
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:31:37 GMT
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> 
> Achohol is a liquid that is much easier to handle and boittle than propane
> 	or lp gas.
> 

	Any one know where I can get ethanol in the Southeastern 
	Pennsylvania area?? So far, all I find is methanol, obviously
	from, OIL companies.

	Thanks...

Derek J. Pietro                      | Thats sloride...
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Posted by: emory!gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM!sloride!derekp (Derek Pietro)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Synthetic motor oils
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 01:20:15 GMT
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    Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:46 EST
    From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)

    I managed to start an argument about brands of synthetic motor oil on
    another mailing list.  In an attempt to salvage some respectability,
    I'm looking for comparative facts about the many different brands on
    the market.  (The specific hot button was Amsoil vs. Red Line, but
    Mobil 1 and other mass-market brands are also of interest.)

    Are there any FACTS out there about the comparative worth and
    properties of these oils?  I'd prefer information that doesn't come
    directly from oil vendors, if possible.

     -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov

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    Posted by: Chuck Fry <emory!ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov!chucko>
 
This is not much of an answer, but rather a bit of sympathy;

I read R&T, which I personally find worthwhile, at least on the scale of
most general purpose auto rags.  The latest issue has an article on
synthetic articles, in fact it purports to be an `update', no less.

But, I was surprised at the lack of real information in this article,
and certainly the lack of objective information.   I guess a summary
would be "According to industry officials, if you dont need synthetic
oils yet, you soon will be." It seemed that the oil companies are trying
to leverage off the idea that continually more stringent pollution
standards will somehow `require' moving to synthetic oils.


  bruce
  miller@cam.nist.gov
  

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Posted by: Bruce R. Miller <emory!cam.nist.gov!miller>
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Subject: Headers and Jets...
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:55:59 GMT
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OK, I'm in the process of installing a set of headers on my 58 Chevy Del
Ray (350 Small block).  I know I need to change my jets in the carb
(Holley 600 cfm, vac secondaries), but do I go for larger ones to
enrichen the mixture, or smaller ones to lean out the mixture. Why do I
have to do this (technical reason)?

-- 
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Posted by: Gary L. Berry <emory!s1.gov!glb>
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 383cid SB Chevy - AGAIN
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:05:01 GMT
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Karl, you should devide the stroke by two. Then it will be
350 cid:   3.484/2=1.742  +  5.7  +  1.56  =  9.002   which is actually 9"
400 cid:   3.750/2=1.875  +  5.565 + 1.56  =  9.000

(I mean DIVIDE.)

Yesterday, I was kind of day-dreaming about a SB 406, which is a 4.150 bore
Bowtie block, 3.75 forged crank with 6.00 stroker rods, customs piston with
1.00 pin location, roller cam and roller 1.6 rockers, with 240/250 duration
@ .050 lift, .55/.57 max lift, Brondix racing aluminum heads with TPIS mini
ram fuel injection, and 10.5:1 compression ratio. Result? 500 ft.lbs @ 4500
550 hp @ 6000. And drop it in 64-67 Chevelle. After the dream, I went back
and went through some of my parts catalogs and found out that just the motor
alone would need 10000 US $. Pretty expensive(or cheap) dream. Any one has a similar dream?

By the way, Karl, thanks for mentioning of my name in your post. The way I am
thinking of my original question would be that it might be a well done way to
do a 383 instead of a 400, as far as tech experience, reliability and cost are
concerned, like what you have mentioned. Well, any more deeper thoughts there?

Jizhong

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Posted by: emory!MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU!HJZ
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: Methanol difficulties
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:59:19 GMT
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The Hotrod List writes:
> 
> [John, I've not done much with M85 but I have a lot of experience
> with pure methanol.  I've used it when it had so much water in it
> oil would not stay mixed and would drop out in a cloud of oil
> emulsion.  Assuming the moisture is not corroding the fuel injectors,
> it should run.  

Well, the injectors are squirting...  If they were corroded, would they
be functioning at all?  The methanol also seemed to dissolve the sealer
in our Kevlar fuel tank, and consequently some resin, so we were
worried about that clogging the injector (we found little flakes of
resin in the inlets of the injectors), so we soaked them in acetone
for a while and blew them out backwards with compressed air (40psi).
Is this an ok way to clean injectors, or did we trash them? (and if so,
how should we clean them in the future?).  

> I tried washing an injector in an aqueous cleaning
> solution in the ultrasonic cleaner once.  The pintle stuck from 
> corrosion before I could get air blown through it.  You might want
> to check that.

If the pintles were stukc, would the injectors be squirting at all?

[This one of mine stuck open so I guess the question would be, is is
squirting AND closing? :-)  JGD]

> It might be that the vapor pressure is just too low
> to crank with a significant portion of water in the mix.  I always
> started my engines on gas and turned the alky on after it warmed up.
> JGD]

Hmmm...  maybe I should try warming the engine with a few hairdryers
and warming the intake charge?  Can't use starting fluid on this
engine due to the volume of the intake between the engine and supercharger
(and theres no pop-off valve) -- one backfire in the intake and the intake
would be toast.

[I've also used propane as a starting fuel.  You could tap in the manifold
somewhere near the runners and inject there.  JGD]

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Posted by: emory!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!lusky (Jonathan R. Lusky)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: rebuildable sb chevy fuel pump
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 04:09:24 GMT
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does anybody have a source for a rebuild kit for a
rebuildable sb chevy fuel pump.  mine is out of a 56 wagon.

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Posted by: emory!evolving.com!dxs
From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Newsgroups: alt.hotrod,wiz.hotrod
Subject: Re: HP and 1/4 mile calcs (fwd)
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:27:14 GMT
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> From MJPELL@freh-01ms.adpc.purdue.edu Tue Jan 26 21:39:47 1993
> 
> I don't mean to sound smart or like I'm bragging, but for reference, I
> ran 14.0 (best) qtr mile with 3.08 single track last summer in my '69
> Malibu.  The engine was a fresh well built 383.  I buddy of mine with
> an '80 Z28 4sp 3.03 posi ran a 13.51 (best) with basically the same
> engine.

Well a 383 is a long stroked (high torque) engine.  Depending on what cam
is in it (as a crane 290H CRN 114802 with an RPM range of 2,000 to 4,500
and a cruising range of 2,600 to 3,200) you could be getting proper torque
off the line with with the 3.08's to get it moving.  What's your top speed
if ideal it should be around 93 miles per hour?
> 
> This year, I have 4.11s though!  I can't wait to run it.  With the
> 3.08s, I barely got into third gear (TH350) at the end of the strip.
> Now, it seems that the engine just runs out or RPMs at the finish
> line.

I think youll see a great improvemont here.  Probably nock almost a second 
off your times.  But don't be surprised if the top speed dropps, if it doesn't
operhaps an even greater ratio change is in order.  Actually it sounds like
your hiotting the traps in second which is about a 1.60 to 1.9 ratio from
added to the 3.08's means equivalent to a 4.93 or 5.86 final ratio.  I`d
start with about a 4.56 ratio in your case, but if your looking at street
ability the 4.11 may be a nice compromise for you.

dennis

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Posted by: emory!picard.med.ge.com!bednarek (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971 ~BHOSVWZ#097)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: To donr at ASU
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:07:11 GMT
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I tried to send e-mail to donr a couple of times but neither the
From, the Reply-to, nor the .sig address worked for donr.  So please,
Don, if you see this then send me a working address.

This is a copy of my latest attempt:

I did try to send you a reply to your questions but it bounced.
Hope this one makes it to you.

The heads are cast iron; I believe the chambers are 65 ccs but
I would have to check my notes to be sure.

The manifold is a dual plane and has *large* ports.

I am located in San Diego.

Bob Hale                                      ...!ucsd!btree!hale
...!btree!hale@ucsd.edu                       ...!ucsd!btree!hale@uunet.uu.net



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Posted by: emory!UCSD.EDU!btree!hale (Bob Hale)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 390 Tri-Power jetting?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:26:05 GMT
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Milliam, 2436 center #61; 2497 center #57; 3208 center #60:
2437 secondary #66; 2498/99 secondary #60; 3208 secondary #60.
All the center carbs should run 65 power valves.  If you have really
early big block secondary carbs, they came with power valves.  Take them
out and plug them.  Initial idle mixture adjustment on center carb is
1 1/2 turns; secondaries 3/4 turn.  Mike Brattland

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Posted by: emory!nprdc.navy.mil!brattlan (CDR Michael Brattland)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: new invention
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:07:12 GMT
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	I have developed (and am still refining) a new product for  
automobiles - something that addresses an unrealized problem.  Instead of  
immediately applying for a patent, I would like to submit my invention to  
a LEGITIMATE automobile accessory company - specifically, a company that  
actively seeks new products for development and marketing.  This way I  
could determine the market for such an item so as to see if actually  
filing a patent application would be worthwhile.  
	It would also be a great help if said company had a trade secret  
agreement form so I could submit my product without fear of infringement.  
	Does anyone know snail mail addresses of companies of the nature I  
described?  

			Thankyou, 
			Peter

--
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to be mistaken, the splendorous blond beast, avidly rampant for
plunder and victory.
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Posted by: pbray@envy.reed.edu (<emory!envy.reed.edu!pbray>)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Gears
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:23:14 GMT
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With all the talk about 3.55 and 2.73 drag rear axles I thaught Id post this



Here is some simle calculations on gear ratios. These calculations are based
on a 28 inch tire hieght (average) and an engine capable of peak horsepower
at 6000 rpm's.  The 6,000 rpm figure is used since most aftermarket cams
should give you that capability, even though some high torque cams do not
they are special aplications which I don't think many of the readers are
interested in.

First the top speed formula.


((tire radius)X(6.28)X(top engine rpms)X(60))/((5280)X(gear ratio))=top speed 

Also the formula 1300=(ET in sec.) X (trap speed in mph) is used to estimate
	1/4 mile et times with all factors ideal.


gear ratio	top speed	ideal ET

2.54		197		6.60

2.73		183		7.10	

3.08		162		8.02

3.23		155		8.39

3.55		141		9.22

3.73		134		9.70

4.11		122		10.67

4.33		115		11.30

4.56		110		11.82

4.88		102		12.75

5.13		97		13.40

5.23		96		13.54

5.54		90		14.44

5.82		86		15.12

6.08		82		15.85


There are many other combinations but remember that changing from the
28" tire height to a taller tire say 30" will increase the speed by
about 7 % and reduce your ET by about 7%.  Also increasing the RPM
of the engine to say 7,000 will give an increase of about 17%.  Take
an all out engine in a built up car that turns 8,000 rpms with 5.13
gears and 32 inch slicks will give a top speed of 148 miles per hour
and about 8.80 seconds.

Yes 3.55 can be considered a dragracing rear axle but only if your
talking about a dragster or "funny car" capable of turning well under
9 sec. ET's.

You might be able to turn 125 miles per hour trap speeds in 13 sec. but
if you get going out of the hole even though you loose top speed you
can probably cut your ET down to 11.70 with an top speed of 111.

My advice is to look at the NHRA times for the class of car that is
closest to yours, then look at the RPM capability of your engine, the
tires on your car and then calculate roughly what axle should wind
your engine tight as it hit the traps.  That's the starting point
and then fine adjust to get a lower ET.
 

	


Thanks for listening to my 3 cents worth.
dennis

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Posted by: emory!picard.med.ge.com!bednarek (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971 ~BHOSVWZ#097)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 390 Tri-Power jetting?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:16:39 GMT
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Hi Milliam, give me your Holley list numbers.  If you want some quicker 
help catch me at home at 619 444-1944.  I bounce your list numbers 
against the recommended from Ford.  Check my ad in the DEC/JAN HEMMINGS
Carbs in 54 and newer Ford parts.  Mike Brattland

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Posted by: emory!nprdc.navy.mil!brattlan (CDR Michael Brattland)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: Big Cam, Lame Launch, Wrong gears
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 05:39:30 GMT
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In article <zh_sxal@dixie.com>, hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List) writes:

|> > I know about lame launch,
|> > My 77TA 400 int:282/.465, exh:292/.480, Holley 650 Vac, Hooker Headers, etc.
|> > TH350 w/ stock converter & 3.08 gears really stinks off the line. 60' times                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[helpful info deleted]

|> Work on your gearing thats your best shot for the dollar.  If you don't want
|> to give up economy then you have to big of a cam for your desires, and a milder
|> cam would be in order.  With 3.08 gears something around 252 or 262 degrees
|> is probably going to give you the best et.  You won't be turning any high rpm's
|> with 3.08 gears so best is to keep as much low end torque as you can.
|> > 
|> dennis


Yeah, I guess I'm in a catch 22.  I'd like to keep the meager 16mpg that the
tall gearing gives around town.
I should have also included the "useable" duration specs which are int:214 deg 
@ 0.050" lift and exh:224 deg @ 0.050" lift.  This cam gives plenty of low end
torque to smoke the tires, its just that once you launch (partial throttle to
avoid wheelspin) it "feels" like theres a delay before you feel the after burners
kick in. This occurs at about 2500 rpm.  I was hoping to reduce the lag time
to the absolute minimum that is possible. (I'd like to acheive 2.5 sec 60' time)  

I hate to admit this but the carb is set up with a two stage power valve.
(please try to contain riotous laughter). Again, in an attempt to maintain
sanity at the gas pump. I realize this restricts total fuel flow, but I can
manage 20mpg on the highway on a cool day. 

Besides, according to hot rodder's rule #2 The engine never makes as much power
as you think it should.  Corollary: Your car is never as fast as you think it
should be.


If it wasnt for that I wouldnt try.
=B^)


$0.02

Ericy

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Newsgroups: ba.market.vehicles,alt.hotrod
From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: "71"FireBird Formula 400 **FOR SALE**
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 23:19:50 GMT

*****FOR SALE********
1971 Pontiac Formula 400
big block 400
4 year old turbo 400 tranny
Formula hood
hard to find wide 15" pontiac rims
front disk's
2nd owner all #'s match
runs good(even does second gear chirps)
slightly over 100,000 original miles(not bad for 22 years old)
just put new carb on it.
will even throw in 68-75 firebird manual!!!
needs minor work:
pads need replacing(will throw them in w/gallon of brake fluid)
engine's got a small valve tick
needs slight cosmetic work.
heater core needs to be installed again(have it)


Having kid and can't afford a third car.......
	asking $2,000.00 or B.O.
email jyoung@cadence.com
or call (408)984-8443 after 5pm weekdays or on weekends

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Posted by: emory!uunet.UU.NET!cadence!jyoung (John Young)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: Ford EFI/E4OD (fwd)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 18:58:24 GMT
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Besides reading this list, SUPER FORD MAGAZINE is another suggestion.
They give a large portion of their monthly ink to these kind of modifications
and their advertisers for the most part are some of your best sources 
to contact when you finally decide what you need.  Their monthly tech
column is answered by the Ford factory SVO guy.  He provides good 
quality information.  I have on occasion written him and though it did
not make the mag I got a personal answer back from him on my tech
question by letter fairly quickly.  Hope this helps.
Mike Brattland

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