HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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Here's a piece of code I use to run something on a different terminal
(mainly stolen from Stephen R. Usher's init(8) package):
---8<------------------------------------------------------------------8<---
    if (pid == 0) {
        /* This is a child process. */

        setpgrp(getpid(), getpid());

        if ((ttyfd = open(ttyname, O_RDWR)) < 0) {
            perror(ttyname);
            exit(1);

        } else if (! isatty(ttyfd)) {
            close(ttyfd);
            fprintf(stderr, "%s: %s is not a tty\n", progname, ttyname);
            exit(1);
        }

        dup2(ttyfd, -1);    /* set controlling terminal */
        dup2(ttyfd, 0);     /* reconnect standard input, output & error */
        dup2(ttyfd, 1);
        dup2(ttyfd, 2);

        close(ttyfd);

        spawnvp(P_OVERLAY, execname, execargs);

        perror(execname);   /* couldn't run program */
        exit(1);
    }
---8<------------------------------------------------------------------8<---

	Jens
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From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Joystick programming help needed
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:06:23 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <199207170837.AA21009@opus.calstatela.edu> rkim@CALSTATELA.EDU
("Richard H.S. Kim") writes:
>Extracted from the March issue of the High Sierra Atari User Group JOURNAL.
>...
>	The address that the joystick report is stored is 3592 (decimal)
>or 0xE08 (hex).
>

NO!!!!!!

Do not do this! PLEASE! That is not a documented TOS variable. The only true
way to read the joysticks is to intercept the IKBD vector specifically for
them. Kbdvbase (XBIOS #34) returns a pointer to a table of addresses for each
handler. Vector number 6 (counting from 0) is called by the IKBD handler
whenever there is a joystick event. The handler is called with A0 and the
longword on the stack pointing to the joystick packet in the form:-

	HEADER($FE,$FF),JOY1,JOY2

While I'm at it, vector #4 is the mouse handler and a relative mouse packet
looks like this:-

	HEADER($F8-$FB - button status in bit 0 an 1), DX, DY

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From: sourada@iastate.edu (Steven D Ourada)
Subject: Bombs on power down
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:08:53 GMT

Does anyone else get bombs between the time that the switch is turned off
and when the computer is completely powered down? I notice on my
STe that I get a brief glimpse of a few bombs almost every time I turn it
off... It's certainly nothing to worry much about, but it does somewhat
annoy me that there is some (presumably) unpredicted behavior going on in
those last few microseconds.

                  Later,
                     Steven Ourada

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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: ST monitor connector pinouts?
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:54:17 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

anamr@cats.ucsc.edu (Ana M Rodriguez) writes:

>I didn't think that you could use the ST monitor for the Sega? 

The FAQ for the rec.games.video group said that you could.

>The Sega Genesis puts out a signal line with Hsync & Vsync combined.
>How do you make it work the SC1224???

I'm just gonna try tying both to the single sync signal.  If it doesn't
work, it doesn't work.  I don't think it'll fry it.

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From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: MiNT
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:35:21 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton


   I have a question about MiNT.  I downloaded Mint 0.93, and put MINT.PRG
in my Auto folder.  Unfortunately, then neither my UIS III or Warp 9
loads in (or are disabled, as they are loaded prior to Mint).  Am I 
doing something wrong (AUTO order off maybe?).  I can run UIS from
the desktop to fix that part, but not Warp 9...

					Robert Anisko
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From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Problems hooking up a SCSI drive
Date: 22 Jul 1992 15:19:50 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


	Hi,

	You might want to check that parity is enabled (or is it disabled)
as that can really mess you up.  Also, does the ICD utilities say that it has
found the host adapter?  There should be a utility to scan the SCSI bus, and if
it doesn't find the clock (usually device 6) then it is more likely that the
problem is with the Host Adapter.  Check the power to the Adapter, and the
SCSI cables going in and out.  Finally, check that you have plugged the ACSI
cable into the right ACSI connector if your Host Adapter has more that one
(it should be labled IN).

	Good luck!

From: jensk@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:18:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Mouse not working on 520ST
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech

I had the exact same problem with my mouse. I thought it was a broken trace
on the PCB, or (even worse) a broken cable. However, after some looking
at the PCB with a magnifying glass, I found that one of the pins of the
little SMD chip had come off because it was badly soldered. I resoldered it,
and since then the mouse has been working without problems.

	Good luck,

	Jens.
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From: kendall@flammulated.rice.edu (kendall)
Subject: Need help with odd hard drive problem...
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:19:50 GMT

I'm having a strange problem with my HD, and was wondering if anyone out
there might know what was wrong:

My st simply refuses to detect my HD at all anymore!!  When I try to boot
from the HD, nothing happens, and occasionally the floppy drive gets messed
up after the boot - all disks put into it show up with 0 byes and 0 items.

I tried to boot from the Atari HD utility disk, but AHDI says 
"Unit 0: Identification unavailiavble", and after that HDX rufuses to admit
that the drive exists even when I try to format.  I've checked the cable,
which is OK, and everything's plugged into the right place.

Just in case it matters, my system setup is:
520 ST with Tech Sp. 1mb upgrade
megafile 30 HD
external floppy drive.

Any help would be *really* appriciated!!

Thanks,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: alewis@news.ccutah.edu (alan lewis)
Subject: TT RAM wanted
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:59:06 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: mintha@loon.geog.ubc.ca (Jim Mintha)
Subject: Re: reset, reset, reset, down...
Organization: /nfs/leghorn/home/users/mintha/.organization
	<1992Jul29.171826.19617@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	<l7dttjINNdk5@aludra.usc.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:29:08 GMT

In article <l7dttjINNdk5@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:

>	   However, I have had a similar problem, but from Hard disk, and it has
>   never been serious enough to worry about it (so I haven't) but I wonder if 
>   anyone else has had this happen.  Almost every time I boot my computer (NOTE: 
>   this is _not_ every time), it will bomb with a couple of bombs (don't remember
>   how many), then it will restart and load just fine.  I used to half-heartedly
>   explain it as "the drive wasn't as awake as it should've been", but I don't 
>   really believe that is the problem.  I know that there are some programs that
>   work by loading and then resetting the computer which boots normally, however I
>   don't believe I have any autoprogs that do that.  Just in case, in my auto/ is:
>   Fatspeed,date/time fix prg (ala ICD), QuickST (small version of 2.2), and
>   randplay (but that is a recent addition).  

I too have the same problem.  And came to the same solution. (i.e. ignore it
and write it off to 'the drive wasn't awake' kind of thing)  But testing it, this
answer doesn't logically follow, its seems completely random in nature.  And since
it will (usually) boot the second time, I haven't worried about it.  ICD stuff
mentions about SCSI drives having some bug about intially start up, and ICD has
a patch for some drives (but not mine) but it doesn't even seem to be this 
problem.

Anyone else know what going on.
Jim



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From: hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: MiNT and Ramdisks
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:05:56 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Having finally found a ramdisk (Mdisk from a.a) that can live in TT-RAM,
it now turns out that it is incompatible with MiNT. Anybody go any ideas?
Is there another ramdisk that might work, or perhaps can one use MiNT
to create a ramdisk?

Herb
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Continuing 1.44 Drive Woes
From: J.J. Lehett <JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:07:59 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

    Well, having bought a Tos 2.05 MSTe 4/50 with a 1.44 drive in it, that
was not working, I have now upgraded it to TOS 2.06, and installed a newer ajax
chip.  However still no luck.  From the desktop the machines ALWAYS fails a
format of a HD disk somewhere very soon after the 40th track.
    I have tried disconnecting the power to the hard drive to see if it was a
power supply problem, but the same thing continued.  Thus, I am not at a
complete loss as to possibilities.  I changed to newer TOS, a new Ajax chip,
and reduced the load on the power supply, without any noticeable change to
the formatting of HD floppies.
   Anyone have any further suggestions?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Subject: Re: Z*NET FNET in the nets
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:26:58 GMT

tonyl@status.gen.nz (Tony Lewis) writes:

>>  Before I poll I would like some feedback if any from this news group.

>I am very interested in the ZNET feed for Atari.

So am I.  I get it through Super 68, node 596, but it would be much nicer
to do it through Unix and NN.
From: bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: problems with gcc/g++
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:20:47 GMT

warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:

>bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell) writes:

>>the result file comes out to be like 95 bytes.

>>only difference in this file is that it is a class that uses templates.
>>So, can anyone tell me what's wrong???

>What's wroing is that Bill, like me, didn't read the C++ Reference Manual
>very carefully.

>Templates are not "compiled".  That doesn't make any sense.  Templates can
>only be compiled once they have been instanciated.  Here is the usual usage:


Well I would of if I had (a) TFM! :-)

Bill
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From: dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (See If I Don't! )
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR / Colour
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:24:48 GMT

>Correct - hoping for a spectre to emulate a MAC II is wishful thinking. But My
>SPECTRE is a lot Faster (thanks to my ICD FA.ST Disk) than my Brothers Mac
>Classic & Runs WordPerfect 2.1 Mac which is vastly superior to any Atari word
>Processor. (superior to WordPerfect Windows 5.1 for that matter)

This is true, both about the chances of emulating a MAC II, and about the 
speed, Spectre is wonderfully fast. Anyway, I *do* see one option for Color. 
The original MAC OS has 8 colors built into it. The Roms support those colors, 
but unless you add SCUZZIGRAPH, you can't display them, and then only on 
another monitor. Fine, however, the Atari CAN display those 8 colors and more 
(especially with the newer high-rez cards). I'm absolutely *sure* that there 
should be some way to access those 8 colors and make them visible on the screen
with ST hardware. Anobody got Dave Small's e-mail address? It's not many 
colors, but even 8 would be nice!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Re: MAC 128K ROMS FOR SALE
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:50:57 GMT

bantolph@carina.unm.edu (Bard's are the Best) writes:


>	I have two Mac 128K ROM's for sale. I had intended to use them
>for Spectre GCR but have decided to do something else. If anyone is 
>interested the chip numbers are:

>8841bv o r2424			8842av o r1702
>23512-1055			23512-1054
>342-0342-b			342-0341-c

>Both are VLSI chips and are copywrited by Apple from '83 to '86. 
>Both chips came from a 1989 era Mac plus and are compatible with all
>the new Apple software. They are also the correct chips for Spectre
>GCR.

>			I am asking about $225 for the pair.

>			email to bantolph@carina.unm.edu

I also have a set of mac roms for sale..  I am willing to sell mine
for 150.00 for anyone who doesn't want to spend 225 for them..  

John

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From: dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stinky Wizzleteats)
Subject: Re: Calamus font trouble
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:57:09 GMT

In article <A9208@MZ.maus.de> Pierre_Hansen@mz.maus.de (Pierre Hansen) writes:
>I don't think this kind of diskussion is funny at all. Deserialising fonts is
>illegal and DMC will not watch this without taking action.
>
>Pierre Hansen (@DMC)

Hey guys, I've not commented so far, but I *think* the original discussion was 
related to worries that even I have:

I have used FONTVERTER to convert literally hundreds of Public Domain Mac fonts
(mostly from the Nautallus CD's, a great source of postscript fonts!). I am
concerned that these fonts may not work with Calamus SL. If that were true, it
would render Calamus SL virtually useless to me, because other than the
original fonts that came with Calamus, the only two packages I have purchased
have been Cherry Times and Cherry Garamond. That would severaly limit my
creativity...

So, does anyone know if these fonts work with Calamus SL?
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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Something (?) Magazine
Keywords: Atari, Advantage, magazine, ST Informer
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:49:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Jul25.171816.27205@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> brayl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Rayl) writes:
>
>As for info about Atari Advantage, Mike Lindsay is taking over Atai
>Explorer, so that leaves AA's future in doubt.  I was told about Mike's
>move by a member of the "old" Atari Explorer staff.  The rumors flying
>around are that ST Informer has "purchased" Atari Advantage, but I don't
>know at this time if that is accurate.  John Jaischigg and his staff
>are no longer at Atari after July 31st.  Major bummer.
>

The latest AEO briefly discusses Mike Lindsay's new control of AE.  The
impression I got was that Atari Advantage would be no more and that 
left over subscriptions might be converted to AE.

I don't understand why ST Informer would 'purchase' AA.  Rod seems to have
plenty to do with ST Informer. :^)  But then, you may know more about this 
that I.

>On an almost unrelted topic, has anyone else seen the scathing Forbes
>article aboutAtari?  8/3 is the issue in question.

Yes, I've read it.  There's been some discussion of it on GEnie.  Most 
people are saying that it's what ST users have been saying all along,
but they're glad that someone from the 'outside' has commented capably
on the subject, including knowledge of the Falcon and Jaguar.

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From: dah90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Halls DA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Gcc 2.2.2 ???
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:27:05 GMT
X-Face: 
	 "woZS-R5B?.Ozdlep3Mp[yyQ@i0i-I`m"P;sTp>H5K8s>cY?yNkXjf73T(9)a87O]K"^lI(
	 %\>Jxe8+b}ZJFli{|^j?sYIuMs[E^;'MS|xFl6ug(8\?EBOkA$@&74

Hi. I have GCC 1.40 (got from a.a). Has the latest version of GCC 2 
(is it 2.2.2?) been ported by a kind soul yet? Are there GCC files
in the new directory waiting for Jeff after the holidays?

- I don't want to download what is on a.a now and then find a whole bunch
of new files appearing!!!

Thanks a lot.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Atari 386 computers?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:44:43 GMT

Ad by IB computers in computer shopper says

"Portfolio and Atari 386 computers"
SEND sase for price list

Thom

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mike@r-node.gts.org (Mike Stramba)
Subject: HERMES
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX System (416-636-2026) 24hrs.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:15:22 GMT

Is anyone here running HERMES?

When I start up gus.prg, then choose send mail or post news I get prompted
for the header info, then mmail starts up and nothing happens after.

When /how do I put the content of the article/ mail in?

How do I actually send / receive to a site?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker)
Subject: Re: Mint & Gemini
Reply-To: an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 18:00:44 GMT


In a previous article, mfg@gmd.de (Martin Gergeleit) says:

>In <1992Jul22.151311.12148@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
>>Is it possible (has anybody tried this?) to use Mint and Gemini at the same time??
>>Can Mint startup Gemini?? 
>
>Yes, I it works fine. The only Problem is, that Gemini does not know about 
>starting TTPs as parallel processes. So, if a TTP runns, the Desktop sleeps, as
>known from Gemini + TOS. Starting a TTP as background process (with "bg") is
>of course possible, but this causes other problems: The build-in Mupfel-Shell 
>occupies the console-window and you can not stop it because otherwise the whole
>Desktop is stopped again. So background process and Mupfel output will be mixed
>on the Screen.

If you started more from bgacc, then had mupfel start bg zoo l $1 >>u:\proc\more
, would that send the listing to more's stdin?
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From: marco@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Marco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Emacs 18.58 REALEASED!
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:10:31 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

skolodzieski@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
 
> 			  EMACS. Includes docs in LaTeX and ASCII form.

Could somebody please tell me more about this "LaTeX?" It's been buggin 
me for quite a while...

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From: tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Recent KA9Q wanted
Date: 20 Jul 92 15:59:49 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems (UK) Ltd., Winchester, UK.


Hi Folks,

I am looking for a recent version of KA9Q for the ST.  I found one for
FTP on plains.nodak.edu, but it is dated somewhere in 1988.

I'm really looking for a NOS version rather than a NET version.

Any pointers gratefully received. Email preferred if possible.

Thanks in advance.

Tony.

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