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From: jwang@phy.duke.edu (James Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PMMV for LCII?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:33:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <3u@byu.edu> gaow@bones.et.byu.edu (Jinsong Gao) writes:
>Hi, guys.  I have a question to ask those hardware experts on the net.  I
>remember reading that to use more than 8 meg of mwmory on LCII, a PMMV card
>is required. (I may be mistaken, but just want to make sure.) Now what exactly
>is a PMMV card?  How do I install it if I needed one?  
>
>Please help. I just bought a pair of 4 meg simms (not yet installed).  
>
>Thanks for any help.


First of all, the correct spelling for the card is PMMU, which stands for
Paged Memory Management Unit.  With this hardware addition, you can use 
virtual memory. 

Second of all, it's not required for the LCII to address 10MB of RAM.  You
can go ahead and install those 4 meg simms, today!  :)

Lastly, because the LCII is based on a 68030 processor with a PMMU built-in,
virtual memory is available to you anyway when those 10MB of RAM dwindle away.
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:41:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.150751.12207@ousrvr.oulu.fi>, juha@skynet.oulu.fi (Juha Pirttil{) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> In article <1992Jul24.131236.4307@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Sang J. Moon, 
> smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov writes:
> 
> >You have never rebuilt your desktop in system 7 so you don't know
> >what you are talking about.  As far as I know, there is no modifier
> >key you can hold down in System 7 to rebuild the desktop.  I received
> >an extension from someone which allows me to automatically delete
> >the desktop FILE on startup.  Since you have never rebuilt a desktop
> >file, you do not know how long it takes.  I have 75MB of stuff, and
> >it definitely takes a very long time for it to finish.  If you really
> >want it, I'll even time it for you.
> 
> Have you ever tried holding option and command keys down when 
> rebooting ???? During the startup the Mac asks if you want to
> rebuild the desktop. I don't think it takes too long. I just
> timed it. Rebuild took excactly 3 minutes 14 seconds. I have a
> 422 MB hard disk and I think on a 75 MB HD it must take much 
> shorter time.

Should we tell him about the techie way of doing it?  Exit all running
applications, DAs, and control panels so that only the finder is running,
then press command-option-escape.  Then click force-quit while holding down
the command and option keys.  This will force the Finder to quit and to
relaunch itself immediately, and rebuild the desktop upon relaunching.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Mike Brudenell <pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: The Namer!?
Organization: The Computing Service, University of York, UK
     <1992Jul20.205459.24063@news2.cis.umn.edu>
     <1992Jul20.220804.24899@news2.cis.umn.edu>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:13:35 GMT
X-Posted-From: pippin.york.ac.uk
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Just to try and clarify things a little.

In System 6 days there was The Namer and Font Downloader (perhaps later
called the LaserWriter Font Utility too?).

In System 7 days there is the LaserWriter Font Utility that comes with
System 7 (tucked away on the Tidbits disk I believe -- it is certainly
not installed on your hard disk as part of the standard install
procedure).  This lets you manipulate fonts, printers' disks, startup
pages, etc..

There is a SEPARATE program called the LaserWriter Utility which includes
all (I believe) the functionality of the LaserWriter Font Utility and
more besides.  It is this that also includes the "Name printer" stuff.

The LaserWriter Utility is available on ftp.apple.com (if you search for
it).  Another poster supplied the path of:
/dts/mac/sys.soft/imaging/laserwriter-utility.hqx

Mike B-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kellogg@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Lars Kellogg-Stedman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Grammar checkers: Opinions?
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:34:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Doctor Teeth and The Electric Mayhem

I'm looking into the purchase of a grammar checker for my Mac.  I've seen
several titles, but as of yet I haven't come across a recent review.  So,
if any of you have had any experience with the following grammar
checkers, I'd appreciate hearing your comments or condemnations regarding
the software.

In particular, I'm trying to find information about:
	Correct Grammar (3.0)
	Sensible Grammar (2.1)
	Grammatik Mac (2.0)

Having just looked at version 3.2 of RightWriter, I don't want to hear 
anything about it, because I found it to be the ugliest application I've
seen in years, with the possible exception of some quick & dirty ports from
the DOS world.

Lars

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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Is StuffIt Deluxe 3.0 available now?
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 92 12:01:58 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul15.232449.6195@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (
> >I tried new Stuff It Lite 3.0. In the "about" box, Stuff It Deluxe is
> >recommended. Where can it get this deluxe archiver? Is it shareware or
> >commercial product?
> 
> 	StuffIt Deluxe is a commercial product currently listing for $99.95,
> and available mail order for about 50-60.

He's in Canada.  Don't you rip off Canadians with a 100% price hike like you
rip off the British?


mathew
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Powerbook, Price Club, pricing
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:15:35 GMT
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Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: jsp@uts.amdahl.com's message of 24 Jul 92 22:17:02 GMT

In article <00Fx03hv44Tp00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:

   "Bigger screen size"?  Compared to the PB100?  I don't think that's correct;
   the 100 and the 140 have exactly the same screen; same size, same everything.

No. The pixel dimensions are the same, but the PB100 has a 9" screen (and
hence smaller pixels); the 140/170 are 10".

Nick.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: nick@pixel.rm.fccc.edu (Nick Kokkos)
Subject: NuVista+ QuickTime Drivers?
Organization: The Fox Chase Cancer Center
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:35:24 GMT

	Hello.
	I was wondering if someone out there is familiar with the NuVista+ video
production board for the Macintosh. I have been told that QuickTime drivers
for that board are available at AppleLink but we have no access to that 
network at all. I would like to get those drivers since we have a NuVista+ 
board and would like to do some presentations using quicktime movies.
	I would really appreciate if someone could help us.
	How does one access AppleLink through internet, anyway?

	Thanks in advance...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100 (was Re: Powerbook, Price Club, pricing)
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:12:43 GMT

mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:

>torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>>   Me too.  I still don't really understand why practically nobody
>> else agrees.  I keep reading reports from Apple dealers about how
>> the PB 100 is a "dog", and that it's now on the short-list for
>> elimination.

>Strange.  My local dealer has stacks of PB100's in stock, but doesn't bother
>to stock 140's and 170's.

  Well, apparently the PB100 is having a hard time in the U.S., but I
can easily believe it's different in other countries (due to the
"pricing structure" [i.e. add 50% to every price] of Apple
subsidiaries !:-( )

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From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100 (was Re: Powerbook, Price Club, pricing)
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:57:25 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <torrie.711784675@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:
>
>>Sony
>>took the basic design of the portable and did a rev 2.0.  They did
>>a great job if you ask me.
>
>  Me too.  I still don't really understand why practically nobody
>else agrees.

Well, I guess I'm another nobody.  I don't own a PB 100, but if I bought
a notebook that would be the one.  Since I have a IIcx, I don't really
want a "power user" machine or even a floppy drive.  Hell, I'd be happy
without a hard disk.  What I'd like is a CHEAP, SMALL machine primarily
for word processing, that will let me edit a couple days worth of text
before uploading to my desktop mac.  For me, PRICE is the main consideration.
$900 is getting into my ballpark.  At $500, I'd reach for my credit card :-)

Apple (and other computer manufacturers) don't seem interested in this market,
and maybe there aren't many others out there like me.  But with the
PB140 4/40 going for $2266 (edu) and the PB170 4/40 at $3248 there's really
no comparison.  I could buy 2 PB100's and have $400 left over for the
price of the 140.  Yeah, I know the screen is nicer it's faster, has a
floppy drive, etc, but those features just aren't worth $1300 more to me.

For the price of the PB170 I could get a PB100, LCII 4/80, color monitor,
keyboard and still have a few hundred bucks left over!  That's absurd....

Just my opinion....

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Subject: Miracle Piano Teaching System
From: harriet@mri.uucp (Harriet Kahn)
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:17:00 GMT
Followup-To: harriet@mri.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Microtec Research Inc., Santa Clara, CA


I am thinking of buying the Miracle Piano Teaching System for my Mac.
It sounds like fun and I've always wanted to learn to play the piano.

I would appreciate feedback anyone has on this product before I invest
$350.  Is it any good?

Thanks,

Harriet
From: usdta004@mmm.serc.3m.com (Timothy S. Shea)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:27:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: mmm.1992Jul21.132716.3803
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US

From article <14784@claris.com>, by mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner):
> In article <1992Jul18.194414.10494@mmm.serc.3m.com>, usdta004@mmm.serc.3m.com (Timothy S. Shea) writes:
>> 
>> From article <14761@claris.com>, by mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner):
> 
>> >
>> 
>> I disagree with this statement.  Bill Gates and Steve Jobs had the same
>> ideas about GUIs.  Apple hired away a good deal of the Xerox PARC
>> developers...  Good old Bill Gates hired the rest away.  Windows and the
>> Mac were under developement at the same time.  Mr. Gates only cared
>> about the Mac because he sunk a good deal of money into developing
>> applications for it...meanwhile he was developing Windows for the Intel
>> machines...  A number of other companies also had GUI's under
>> development for Intel machines...                       
> 
> Windows and the Mac were under development at the same time?  Why then did
> the Mac come out in 1984, and windows not come out until quite a number of
> years later--and a halfway decent version of Windows didn't come out until

So what's your point?  Yes the Mac came out sooner but that does NOT mean
that Microsoft (or IBM or ...) was not working on there own GUI before
the Mac came out...  Why didn't Windows come out sooner?  Gee maybe
because Microsoft has always had major problems with getting software
out on time and bug free.          

e 1990 or 91--six years after the Mac OS first came out.  And Windows, in a
> number of ways, still hasn't caught up to the interface of the original
> Mac OS.
> 
> As for the same ideas about GUIs, people buy Microsoft's Mac products
> despite their implementation of their GUIs, not because of it.

Two people can have the exact same idea about a product but the way they
implement those ideas and how they build that product to achieve those
ideas can be radically different and you can come up with two totally
different products...

I still don't see that point of that message...


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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100 (was Re: Powerbook, Price Club, pricing)
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:35:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: outpost.D2150035.9jsjhn
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <sgXkoB7w165w@mantis.co.uk> (comp.sys.mac.misc), mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
> 
> Apple are playing a VERY dangerous game.  People who buy PowerBooks are
> obviously clued in to what a good idea portable computing power is, and are
> exactly the sort of people one would expect to want a Newton device.  But
> after being stung on the PB100, there's absolutely no way I'm going to buy a
> Newton when it comes out.  I'll wait six months to a year and buy it for a
> third of the price.

I don't understand.  Why has Apple stung these people when they buy
a PB100?  They got a good machine at a price they were willing to
pay.

I think they'd be a lot worse of buying a machine from a company that
doesn't respond to the competative environment (doesn't lower prices
when everone else does) and eventually goes out of business.  

No one should ever buy a computer (any brand!) thinking they are gettting
a machine that will hold its value.  Computers never have and I doubt
they ever will in my life time.  Buy a computer to accomplish a task
you need done - then you'll get your money's worth.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: klaus@diku.dk (Klaus Ole Kristiansen)
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 10:35:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen


What doesn't?
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From: gerlach@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: NEEDED: Recommendations!
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:23:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

In article <1992Jul22.180540.13204@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mnc0678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.N. Cannava ) writes:

   I'm in need of recommendations for either shareware or commercial
   solutions to the following:

	   1. Need a hierarchical apple menu. Mine's getting waaaay too
	      cluttered.
Try getting BeHierarchic from sumex, rascal, umich, or wuarchive to
name just a few sites.

	   2. Need a program to place frequently-used programs/files as 
	      "tiles" on the lower-left of the screen for easy
	      click-n-go.
Isn't there a commercial program called "Tiles" that does exactly that?

	   3. A good, **compressing** backup program (to tape or
	      SyQuest), which leads me to another question: Has anyone
	      had experience with the TEAC tape drives? Good/bad? What
	      software do you use?)
Can't help you there.

   Well, that was quite a few questions. Thanks in advance to anyone
   answering; please email, and I'll post a summary if interest warrants.

				   \marc


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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PowerBook 170 Availability
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:23:45 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Jul25.184642.12034@cc.gatech.edu> gil@cc.gatech.edu (Gil Neiger) writes:

>Does anyone know Apple's status with the PowerBook 170?  I ordered a
>4/40 with modem 2 1/2 months ago through our college bookstore and I'm
>still waiting.  They told me last week that Apple told them that, if
>they're lucky, they'll come in the first week or two of September.

That's interesting. 170 4/40s seem easily available around here.
2/80s are in VERY short supply however.

But that may have changed most of our orders have been taking a few weeks
to fill.

-Geoff
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From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:30:03 GMT
 <1992Jul15.115921.14033@msc.cornell.edu> <ajross.711328520@husc9>
 <5794.2a6ac834@hayes.com> <92203.173612ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET>
 <5805.2a6d64c8@hayes.com> <92205.170150ASI509@DJUKFA11.BIT
Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <92212.173645ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET>, <ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> says:
>Granted I made the mistake to compare prices of a 486 and performance of
>a 386. Now with the 386:
>
>           386 40MHz PC with ET4000 VGA 8MB RAM         DM 2358
>           120 MB IDE harddisk
>
>           Cyrix 80387 40MHz                            DM  330
>
>           Trinitron instead of std. monitor            DM  250
>
>           Adaptec SCSI hostadapter (no significant
>           speedup against IDE, but you have the SCSI
>           for your scanner, if you need one,           DM  520
>           drive is the same price as IDE)
>
>           OS/2 2.0                                     DM  212
>
>           WorkFrame /2                                 DM  124
>
>           OS/2 Dev. Toolset                            DM  165
>                                                        =======
>                                                        DM 3959
>
>If you allow me to assume $3000 for the IIsi and a ratio of $1 = DM 1.5
>I can`t see how the PC is more expensive. Perhaps Mac prices have dropped in
>the US but you didn`t mention that.
>
I don`t allow it to myself any more. I`ve got the latest prices from my local
Apple dealer:

                Mac IIsi, 5MB, 80MB                  DM 6156
                Enhanced Keyboard                    DM  433
                Coproc/NuBus Adapt.                  DM  370
                RGB Monitor / Trinitron 14"          DM 1596
                                                     =======
                                                     DM 8555 !!!
      Compare that to DM 3959.

                M A C S   C O S T   T O O   M U C H   ! ! !

Michael Bode.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: mcoyne@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: What is FABN? Extents tree?
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:40:25 GMT

Can anyone tell me what the following message, provided by Norton Disk 
Doctor (version 2.0), means:

" A part of the disk's extents tree (node #1) was found to contain 
some invalid information (incorrect FABN). NDD cannot fix this 
problem"

What is an extents tree? What is FABN? How can I fix this problem? 

I'm using a IIci 5/105 (just reformatted) woth system 7.01 and latest 
tune-up.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.Please reply by email.
Thank you.

Michael Coyne
Memorial University of Newfoundland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: grega@verdix.com (Greg Alonso)
Subject: Re: APPLE LISA II FOR SALE : SOLD
Keywords: Lisa, for sale
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:44:06 GMT

grega@verdix.com (Greg Alonso) writes:

>I have two apple lisa's for sale.  Each 
>have 1 MB RAM, 400K floppy disk, 10 MB external hard disk, with
>Lisa Office S/W including LisaTerminal.  $200 ea.

>email or call
>grega@verdix.com
>(703)318-5834
>-- 

It has been sold in record time, about 15 minutes!

grega
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:01:36 IST
From: <P88037@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,alt.sex
Subject: Re: WANTED: Sexy games to play on my PC
 <1992Jul22.142625.11038@athena.cs.uga.edu>
 <1992Jul22.181819.19956@athena.cs.uga.edu>

I don't have any, but I'd surely like to see the game called Interlude
available for Mac. If anybody has it, please mail me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,alt.sex
From: tnorthtj@cc.curtin.edu.au (Tim North)
Subject: Strip-Mac! 1.3 available for FTP
Summary: Adult card game
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:01:50 GMT

Just a quick post to say that version 1.3 of Strip-Mac! has been uploaded
to sumex-aim.stanford.edu and is available for FTP in the /info-mac/game
directory.
 
For those that don't know, Strip-Mac! plays as follows: Players take turns in
drawing a card from the deck. If a player fails to turn up an appropriate card
then s/he must choose between options that include:
    (a) removing a piece of clothing;
    (b) taking a punishment card; and
    (c) purchasing a reward card.
 
Play continues until one or all players are naked. What happens next is up to
you.  :-)
 
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