HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Liralen Li)
Subject: Re: Making overtures...
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:17:00 GMT

In article <1b55lhINNl2o@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>StM ponders his situation:  A diabetic felinoid whose fur is somewhat matted
>with sugar.  How does one groom oneself at this point?

Phee giggles as Thyra comes up with a solution and watches with interest to
see if he'll accept.

>=Phee cocks her head, and then tugs on StM's sleeve.  In a whisper that is
>=possibly loud enough to be heard from the other side of the room, she asks
>=StM, "Is she O.K.?"
>
>StM answers, "Well, *I* think so, but if your mommy's around, we really ought
>to ask her.  If your mommy's not around, I can take you over and introduce you,
>but I can't leave you alone with her, and she *STILL* counts as a stranger
>until your mommy says otherwise.  OK?"

"But..." Phee sighs, "My mommy's in San Diego... and she *can't* come here."
She wrinkles her nose a little, thinking.  "O.K.  I'd like it if you'd..."
Phee pauses at the word and smiles, "introduce me to her."

>=Then a thoughtful, "Hey, Speaker," Phee says softly
>=while looking at her apple, "you think M&M's would go good on a caramel
>=apple?"
>
>StM ponders this for a moment, then answers, "I'm not so sure.  Sounds like
>we're getting close to where you won't be able to taste the apple.  But you
>could try a couple of M&Ms WITH the caramel apple."

Phee thinks about it and then grins, "Sounds good."

----
Phee
li@inigo.Data-IO.com
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca  (The Didi-Sprite)
Subject: Re: great  land
Originator: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:29:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.161932.19687@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:
>Jennifer A Cabbage (fsjac3@cthor.acf-lab.alaska.edu) wrote:
>:     Patch stomps her feet and shakes the snow out of her hair.
>: "Well, hello.  I guess I'm another 'lurker', come to light.
>: "Are there any other lurkers out there from Alaska ?"
>
>Alfvaen bounces up to Patch.  "Hello there!  Can't reckon as I've seen any
>Alaskans here afore. 

[    ]

>"kitten has already initiated you with a hug, but here's one from me too,"
><hug>.  "I'm a Canadian from Alberta, so I probably have a better inkling than
>many about what snow is, and real winter weather and such.  Even if it rarely
>gets below -40 here in winter...

The Didi-Sprite, having finished 'looking' and hugging Kitten, turns her
glare on Alfvaen ... "-40, eh, old chum?  Ummhmmm!  Well, Montreal has
been known to get down in the -20's Celsius for days at a time.  As far
as this sprite is concerned ... that's Winter enough for anyone ... and
as far as snow ... we've had the joy of being snowed-in from time to
time.  Now *that's* fun!"

Didi giggles:  "How about the VP debate last night folks!  

"Err ... Alfvaen, can I get you something from the bar?"

----<--<@

The Didi-Sprite
Montreal * Canada

braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBRANDT@AAA.UOregon.edu (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Re: A Wanderer from the land of ABEND...
Organization: the Polyhedron Group
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 06:17:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.010537.17016@ra.msstate.edu>,
slrosser@whale.st.usm.edu (Sandra Lynne Rosser) writes:
> 
> "Evening, Meredith," he says.  "I had a feeling you might drop
> by."
> 
> "Some of you I know," she says.  "Some of you I love.  Those of
> you I haven't met yet, please introduce yourselves--you can never
> have too many friends, and I know from experience that a girl
> can find some pretty amazing people lurking in these shadowed
> corners.  
> 
Jason and Thyra uncurl themselves from Patch's beanbag chairs and introduce
themselves {See our intro to Chris a few posts back (RE: Lurk, etc.) for
descriptions} Jason (the Decker with the black leather jacket) says
"Pleased to meet you Meredith. Thyra and I are relatively new here. Just
since mid-August. Welcome back." His companion, a striking female
feline/human, Purrs and says "Most welcome. Care to join us on Patch's
beanbag chairs for backrubs?"
> 
> 
> "It's nice to be back.  *hugs* (Yep, I'm one of -THAT- crowd...)

Jason and Thyra grin and say at the same time "So are we!" and catch
Meredith in a hug sandwitch.

Jason and Thyra



Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:21:48 GMT

In article <1bcs2jINNhjb@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <keulen.718894975@possum>, keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen) writes:
>>Wow ... maybe Texans are closer to Aussies than other Americans ...
>
>Well, sure they are.  They're further south.

   <chuckle> "A good one ! StM, I'm buying your next drink if you want one."DJ.

    I eat vegetables because they are good for me... :-) :-)

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lydia Uribe)
Subject: Re: In honor of actually reading a few messages in this group again...
Organization: Claremont Shelter for Maladjusted Singers
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:45:00 GMT

In article <1b24s7INNoth@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <ceotBXu00WB48N0H91@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Steven M. Stadnicki" <ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>LA area?
>
>Not so far to the best of my knowledge, though there are now, I think, at
>least 6 Callahanians (one possibly former, one lurking last I heard),
>counting yourself, in the area:
>	You, me, Abner, Soprano, Skeeve (lurking) and Deadrunner (MIA, though I
>		spotted her in alt.stagecraft recently)

"Hey, you left out the Polymath!  And yes, there has been one LA RealSpace,
just about a year ago; I think that it was before StM joined us.  That's
when I met Polymath, Deadrunner and Skeeve (although Skeeve was still
lurking at that point)."

					Soprano

"You're more than beginning -- you're learning to fly;
 You feel like you're falling, but it passes in time...."
			"From Me to You", Janis Ian
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Problems of Recognition (was Re: Words)
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:02:25 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct16.191352.949@ttinews.tti.com>, hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
=}StM suggests, "Hybrid vigor?   It's a well-known (though, to the best of my
=}knowledge, unexplained) phenomenon."
=
="I believe the perceived phenomenon is actually a statistical artifact.
=In classical mendelian genetics, out of four offspring, you will get two
=average, one inferior and one superior.  The inferior ones will tend to
=die off, so the average quality goes up.
=
="The above is, of course, grossly oversimplified, but it conveys the
=general idea."

Perhaps.  Why is it, then, that hybrid corn tends to have a higher germination
rate than the pure strains, as well as giving better yields from what does
germinate?
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders)
Subject: Re: Cristobal Colon
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:03:05 GMT

In article <u906451.719022428@bruny>, u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders) writes:
> 
> Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke) writes:
> [deleted stuff]
> >	"Colombus day.  A grand tradition, taking a day off to play
> >in honor of a great man.  I, however, like many Americans, do not 
> >think that Cristobal Colon was a great man.  What did he do?
> >"Discoverd America?" Balogna.  It was widely known to be here.
> [deleted stuff]
> >	Smoke pauses a moment.  "I feel compeled to tell you
> >that these thoughts belong to no one but me.  They do not represent
> >'Typical american indian thought' or the thoughts of my tribe."
> >	He raises his Glass.  "To colombus - who was found lost at 
> >sea in 1492 by Native Americans."  The glass flys to the fireplace.
> Mike put Smoke's next drink on my tab.
> This year is approximately 1000 years since the Vikings first voyage
> to Markland and Vinland what the vikings called where they landed on
> the North American Continent. I think there were about 3 or 4 different
> trips by the vikings to North America.
> 
> Damien.
> --
> "Its a 106 mi to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 a pack of
> cigarettes, its dark and we 're wearing sun glasses"
> "Hit it" Blues Brothers Movie. Jake & Elwood.
> Damien Saunders (Gunnar Njalsson SCA) Email:u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
> 
> Still self quoting. Damien.
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: click!
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:22:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In alt.callahans, rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove) writes:

> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
> > Do not use the phrase 'differently abled'.  It is nonsense.  My
> >father has been in a wheelchair for almost 30 years now, and
> >he would be the first to tell you that he is downright handicapped.
> 
> Your father is not the only differently abled or handicapped
> person in the world and the spectrum of disabilities is great.
> Some of us feel differently abled is an appropriate term for
> our abilities.  

Very well, perhaps you would care to point out some of the different
abilities that you have in order to convince me.

My father is, to me, an example of a man who has done quite well
for himself in the face of severe challenge without ever having
to resort to euphemism.

doug
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: The land of the long white fleece ...
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:16:50 GMT

rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz writes:

>  Stumpy grins. "One of my favourite comments about New Zealand: There are
>63,500,000 sheep in New Zealand. 3,500,000 of them think they're people."
>  He sips his drink. "Of course there are a few *real* people here too." :)

Hey - the peopleation of NZ is over 3M again?  When my family moved to Oz
from there, the local saying was: "Can the last one out please turn out the
lights."  The population then was about 2.7M ...

Splash!

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From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Words
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:27:57 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: seurat.wag.caltech.edu

I think the last one got out!  Yay!  Let's do another one!  =8)

Liralen says ...
>"Even in the sciences, each field creats its own language to accurately
>describe the things that are important to that field.  And to become
>knowledgeable in any of those fields, one has to be able to accurately
>*use* that language."  She looks around, "How many physicists would jump
>on me if I said 'Quark or Quantum?  What's the difference?  They SOUND
>pretty close...' or how many a.n.n. experts would jump on me if I said,
>'Fuzzy systems and artificial neural networks are the same thing!'"  She
>dunks any flying physicists, fellow a.n.n. folks and falls off the rather
>large pile of soapboxes.

I'm taking a course in cosmochemistry, pretty much for the fun of it, and
yesterday the teacher was talking about 'ionized metals' and used C+ as
an example.  Half the class starts to buzz, and he immediately says, "Oh,
by the way, some astronomers refer to anything heavier than helium as a
metal."

Ew.  Metallic neon?  fluorine atoms?  
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Why 9! = 362,880
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:36:46 GMT

Mark Beirne Lively (ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: well it is also quite prevalent in calculus.  Fo finding power series
: and infinite sums.  There is actually a way to get the factorial of a
: non integer.  I can't quite remmeber the equation.  Someone must know.

Alfvaen pulls a textbook out of his Black Backpack.  "There's something called
the Gamma Function(represented by a capital gamma--an F without the lower
crossbar--I'll do it as F here.)  Basically, n!=F(n+1).  The full definition
of F is as an integral function, but there are a few interesting facts about
it.

"For one thing, from the way the integral is defined, F(1/2) is the square root
of pi.  And F(1/2) is (-1/2)!...  This has some interesting implications in
differential equations, but I won't get into that right now.  (Let's just say
that Bessel functions of half-integral order can be expressed in terms of
trigonometric functions as a result of the above.)

"F(p) is undefined when p is a negative integer or zero, so p! is also
undefined for negative integers.  Since factorials are often used in the
denominator, though, 1/p! is equal to zero for negative integers by this
definition.  And negative non-integral values of F(and factorials)are well-
defined, because, by the definition of factorial, p!=p * (p-1)!."

Alfvaen grins at kitten and other non-math types, over whose heads this
lecture has gone completely.  "Sorry.  This kind of stuff is kind of neat
sometimes, and is probably why I got into physics instead of computing science
(like I should have).  Although my book indexing is perhaps more of an
indication I should have gone into library science..."  He proffers a hug to
kitten, who never refuses one...and to anyone else he has confused.

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"I'm a few bricks short of a load, but a full load always hurt my back."
   ---Barenaked Ladies
Current Album--Kim Mitchell:Rockland
Current Read--Robert A. Heinlein:Job: A Comedy of Justice
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Reply-To: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:56:05 GMT

The troll climbs out from under his table---

Maybe the whole problem is the excessive use of punctuation!!!!!!!!!

Especially what a lot of computerists refer to as "Bangs" (!)

---Maybe kitten banged her head

The troll suddenly realizes what he said, turns, and frantically dives
back under tha table, pursued by a lot of peanuts in fast pursuit---

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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Callahan's is for everyone
Date: 10 Oct 1992 00:22:19 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct9.192840.28582@data-io.com>, li@Data-IO.COM (Liralen Li) writes:
>In article <1b1s7nINN6oj@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>
>I'm also answering the above, below.  And if that didn't confuse you...
>
>>In article <122420134@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>>=Great post Liralen.  I agree fully.
>
>In article <1b1s7nINN6oj@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>
>>Another armchair psychiatrist?  Or just someone who hasn't taken the trouble to
>>follow the thread?  
>
>Uhm... StM, I think that doug was just agreeing with the premise that
>'Callahan's can't solve everything for everyone.'

StM answers, "OK.  I took him at his word when he said `I agree fully.'  I.e.,
I assumed that he was agreeing with everything you said."

>And I do apologize.

Accepted.

>>FYI, the item in question was due in large part because I
>>*AM* getting professional help.  For diabetes.  I'm currently using insulin.
>
>Cool.
>
>Though, one might ask, if you weren't using insulin, wouldn't the mood
>swings be even worse, with possible deadly results?

Actually, no.  Without insulin, I'd either have normal blood sugar levels or
high blood sugar levels.  Neither of those affect mood the way low blood sugar
levels do.  If the blood sugar levels are normal, fine.  If they get too high,
the mood isn't directly affected, except perhaps on a timescale of days.  Long
before that would happen, you experience other symptoms that are simply
impossible to ignore.  See my `Razor's Edge' post for a description."

>And, perhaps, you might be a little less defensive where Doug is concerned.
>I seriously doubt that he was targetting you in particular, and, actually,
>I agree with his assessment of your post when you were hypoglycemic.  In
>fact, you agreed with that assessment as well when you posted your
>apology.  A simple fact.

"Hmm.  That's odd. I thought that what I'd said was that participation in
alt.callahans may very well have [cooincidentally] saved my life, and it did so
in a way that professional help could not have done (unless, of course, I were
confined to a hospital)."

>From my experience, Doug simply tells it like it is.  He does not name
>call, nor does he put people down.  When he disagrees, he does it
>straightforwardly and doesn't mince around things.  A style that's sure to
>earn him a few bruised egos, occassionally, but you might *think* about
>what he's actually saying as opposed to what you think he's saying. 

"Well, what he actually said was that he agreed with you completely, and part of
what you said was that I needed professional [apparently psychiatric] help."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rlm7337@tamaix.tamu.edu (Incarnadine)
Subject: Re: Cristobal Colon
Keywords: AIM, 1492, Lost at Sea
Organization: Castle BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:54:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.151740.2350@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke) writes:
>Smoke comes in from the party in the meadow and gets a whiskey (Straight,
>no chaser) from Mike.  He has changed out of his buckskins, wearing now
>the traditional garb of the history teacher, jeans, sweater, and tweed
>jacket with leather patches on the elbows.
>	He approaches the line, begins to speak.  "Yesterday, 
>someone pointed out to me that it was Columbus day, a fact I had
>otherwise managed to over look, though I had wondered why the mail man
>was so late.  

[ stuff removed for brevity]
>	Smoke pauses a moment.  "I feel compeled to tell you
>that these thoughts belong to no one but me.  They do not represent
>'Typical american indian thought' or the thoughts of my tribe."
>	He raises his Glass.  "To colombus - who was found lost at 
>sea in 1492 by Native Americans."  The glass flys to the fireplace.
>--

Incarnadine stands and empties his glass, sending it into the fireplace behind
Smoke's.  As he sits, people near him hear him mutter, "bloody twit..couldn't
navigate his way out of a paper bag..."

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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Re: click!
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:07:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.072203.5924@csus.edu>, vcsc1169@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
(Ruth Anne Ladue) writes:
> 
> In article <MeqDI1O00awHE4bm4a@andrew.cmu.edu> ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively) writes:
> [Lots of prior stuff deleted]
> >
> >	Sorry to quote the entire thing but it either that or nothing.  ANyway
> >this discussion reminds me of a cartoonist/humourist that I read about,
> >in I think it was the magazine section of the New York Times a few
> >months back, who had some type of disability which forced him to live in
> >a wheel chair and like many people he became obnoxious about it.  But
> >the exception was in a uniquily constructive way.  He says many of the
> >above types of things except through making derogatory slurs.  That just
> >about anyone else would get lynched for.  Unfortunatley I can't remember
> >his name but he has a book out with some rahter funny stuff in it.
> >
> >ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
> >"I haven't failed I have discovered 10,000 ways not to make a lightbulb"
> >                                        -T Edison.
> 
> By sheer coincidence, the cartoonist's name is Callahan. I think his
> stuff is pretty funny, too!
> 

I know of the cartoonist you are talking about. Callahan (I can't recall
his first name. John? Maybe.) lives in Portland, Oregon (my original home
town). Yeah, his humor is often rather dark, and is usually quite
sarcastic, but he sometimes really hits the mark, too. I think the only
reason he gets away with many of the things he says in his cartoons is
because people know he has been there himself. He is confined to a
motorized chair, and has to use both hands to draw his cartoons. Like
George Carlin once pointed out, "it's OK to make fun of your own group",
weather that group is black, Irish, or otherwise different. Callahan once
explained his cartoons as a choice of laughing at or crying over his
condition. He chose laughter. Many of the cartoons he has drawn force a
person to rethink the stereotypes they are comfortable with. By making
people uncomfortable with the extremes in his cartoons, he has done a lot
to make people rethink how they treat people who happen to be different.

Jason
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:31:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Yet Another Periodic Return...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans

In alt.callahans, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:

> In article <122420130@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
> =In alt.callahans, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
> =
> =[lots o' stuff deleted]
> =
> =I must say, that was one of the most impressive displays
> =of almost completely incoherent vitriol I have ever witnessed.
> 
> You're right.  Ain't severe hypoglycemia wonderful? 

I am sure it isn't, but I am fully familiar witht the 
consequences of inconvenient medical conditions.

Mine, which I will not identify, causes people to commit suicide
at 5 times the national rate.  

> I guess you couldn't be
> troubled to read through the entire thread before responding, right?

I read it.  I am aware of the condition.

>  I won't
> say anything about a pot and a kettle.

You would be wrong if you did, since I did not attack you with
any sort of vitriol, and certainly not the sort exhibited in
your post regarding Msr Unbeliever.

doug
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