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From: mtoms@ems.cdc.com (Mark Toms)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: PME Prism For Hasselblad
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:36:09 GMT
Reply-To: mtoms@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

I have a 500C/M and am considering purchasing a prism for it.
I have been looking at the PME and the latest Accumat screen
combination.  I want a split image to help with the focusing.

Good deals (I think) seem to be in the "used" area.  If I purchase
one used, what should I be looking for?  How can I test/check out
the unit?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark


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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: brad@wubios.wustl.edu (Brad Wilson)
Subject: Re: Kodak Publications (was: Flourencent light question)
Organization: Division of Biostatistics, WUMS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:10:45 GMT

In article <3830305@hpldsla.sid.hp.com> tonya@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Tony Arnerich) writes:
>gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) writes:
>
>> In article <226@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes:
>> > ...
>> >Discharge Lamps.  Call Kodak at 1-800-242-2424.
>
>> Does anyone have a list of Publications by Kodak ...
>
>Call Kodak at the number above (presumably) and they can tell you about
>their List of Publications.

	I did just that two days ago, and although they seemed a little
	confused by my request for a "List of Publications" about
	photography, they promised that they would send me something
	in 7-10 days.
-- 
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From: FKK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Nikkor autofocus wide angle lens questions
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:44:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I am an active Underwater photographer using a Nikon 8008 in an
Ikelite housing and dual strobes.  The system really works well and
I need a wide angle lens.

My question is:  what Nikkor wide angle lens are really good? How do
the 20mmAF and 24mmAf and the older 24mm manual focus lenses compare?

Any comments would be appreciated.
From: bhag@etn.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: SLR prices in New York (Nikon)
Date: 19 Aug 1992 07:03:15 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


When discussing prices for SLRs in Singapore a while back,
someone claimed that you could get the SLRs for the same 
price or even cheaper in New York. Is this true?

I want to know what you could expect to have to pay for
some of the AF Nikon SLRs. I especially want to know the
prices (with accessories) for a camera that in Europe is
called Nikon 401x . It`s a rather new Nikon and it's in
the mid price range for AF SLRs I guess. If it doesn't have
the same name in the US it probably at least starts with
a 4 digit.

Boerge Haga
Ericsson Telecom AS, Norway
e-mail:bhag@etn.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: chang@ecf.toronto.edu (CHANG Rong Fawn Teresa)
Subject: Films, Camera, AAs
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:34:21 GMT

All in good conditions.
Films & AAs are kept cool in my fridge.  I carefully put them in containers
which are inside lightproof bags.

     10  Film (Fuji) film for colour prints (36 exposures;DXf;
	 Super hr 100;24x36mm;CN135-36;ISO 100/21 degrees) $2
      1  Film (Mitsubishi) for colour prints (36 exposures;DX;
	 MX 100;ISO 100/21 degrees;24x36mm process;FNP or C-41) $3.5
      1  Film (Kodak VR) film for colour prints (36 exposures;
	 E.I.100;24x36mm process;CP 135-36;DX35mm) $2.5
      3  AA battery (2 in a pack;TOSHIBA;R6PIU/1.5V;SUM-3U) $1
      1  Camera (P&S;full-automatic;ISO 100-1000;viewfinder: long,
	 mid + short;auto-reverse,load,rewind,focus;automatic
	 pop-up electric built-in flash in dim light;film counter;
	 35mm colour Rikenon f4.0 lens;Date-Time-Off;camera bag;
	 Loading flash monitor;JCII approved;self timer;RIQUARTZ
	 Hour-minute or Year-month-day diaplay;use 2AA battery) $95

Expires: Fuji (July 91); Kodak (July 92); Mit (Sept. 92).

Please reply by email.
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From: teg@uunet!tellab5!odgate (Todd Grinnell)
Newsgroups: rec.photo,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Kodak PhotoCD processing and software
Date: 11 Aug 92 22:14:08 GMT
Organization: Odesta Corporation


You can call the fine people at Eastman Kodak to find the closest developer
offering PhotoCD processing. Their number is 1-800-242-2424. As they will
tell you, 'More sites are being added every day.'

By the way, has anyone seen a pre-release of the mac or windows software
required to read the images off of the CD? According to Kodak, the macintosh
software is expected to ship in early September for $40. If anyone would
like me to maintain an archival backup of their beta software, I would be
more than happy to oblige ;-)

t-bone
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From: cheu@saturn.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Rates for freelance photographer
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Reply-To: cheu@saturn.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:42:45 GMT


Can anyone tell me how much a freelance photographer charge for
taking a wedding, party, functions (company, school and clubs).
Is it by the hour ? by # of rolls ? or is a package deal ? 

I'm interested in making some $ out of this hobby during my free
time.

Kelvin
From: tomrice@netcom.com (Tom R. Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Rates for freelance photographer
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:51:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Assuming you are serious and have the technical skills (this game ain't
easy), you might look for a monthly publication named "Photo District
News", found on some newsstands.  There are frequent articles on topics
of interest to professional photogs and pricing of services is
very high on the list of readers' interest.

But a word of caution:  be really sure this is what you want to get
into.  Amateurs who just wanna make some bucks at what seems to be a
fun racket are not only in for a big surprise, but also demean the 
profession.

trr  
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Subject: Re: B+W Fiber vs. RC paper
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:14:42 GMT
Organization: Data General AB, Akalla, Sweden

In article <BsvsF2.Bqs@math.uwaterloo.ca>, accwai@math.uwaterloo.ca (Andy Wai) writes:

> Now the RC vs. FB question.  I have seen samples of RC and FB paper (Multi-
> grade III and Multigrade FB if memory serves) from the above experiment.
> MGFB outside for a year shows about the same degree of fading as MGIII out-
> side for 6 months.  MGIII outside for a year shows noticeably more fading
> than the other two.  So in terms of fading at least, the difference is still
> there.  On the other hand, anything that can stay out there for a year and
> still show a convincing image can't be all that bad.

I believe that something went wrong with the test. Both papers (what's the
third paper you're mentioning?) uses the same emulsion, and in both cases,
the emulsion is on top of the paper (the plastic-covered paper base in
the case of the RC paper). The fading should therefore be the same if
they are exposed to identical conditions and have been properly processed.

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From: rcoadh@spectre.co.rmit.oz.AU (Alexander Doktorovich)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: FAQ and advice
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:03:00 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre

Hi,
 I am a beginner to photography.
 I am looking to buy a basic (and cheap) SLR.
 I have my heart set on RICOH KR10M body and a 3rd party lens.
 I would be delighted to hear comments about this camera because I really 
 do not wish to spend $AUS500 on a faulty machine.
 Can anyone suggest a similarly priced alternative?
 On another issue, is there a FAQ list for this group. I need all the FAQs
 I can learn from.
Alex.	
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Subject: Re: Sigma 600mm f/8 Reflex on AF cameras?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:39:33 GMT

In article <86238@netnews.upenn.edu>, liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck Liang) writes:
> In article <1992Aug15.001439.2926@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:
> >In article <1992Aug14.202133.24614@ninja.zso.dec.com>, stoppani@ninja.zso.dec.com (Pete Stoppani) writes:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Has anyone used Sigma's 600mm reflex lens with an AF camera?
> >> What limitations are there in addition to the fixed aperature and
> >> manual focus?  Does the camera's AF sensor still work? In other words,
> >> does that 'in focus' indicator light up when the picture is in focus?
> >
> >I haven't used the Sigma, but I have used a Tamron 500/f8 on an EOS 10s
> >and 630. You do NOT get any "in focus" signal, but focussing on the screen
> >isn't too hard. You can't use multipliers without playing some tricks - but
> >you probably wouldn't want to anyway given the poor results that mirror lenses
> >give with multipliers. On EOS cameras I set the mode to Av, set the aperture
> >to f1 and exposures are correct.
> 
> 
>   Are you using the Tamron lens with an FD-EOS mount adapter?  It
> sounds like that's case.  But Sigma has a version of their 600mm lens
> in EOS mount, but it only permits manual focusing.  If it has the
> electrical contacts, you should be able to use regular metering and
> the in-focus signal.

The Tamron lens is actually mounted via a Pentax screw -> EOS adapter. It
does not provide electrical contacts. I don't know if the SIgma provides
electrical signals or not. If it does then it may behave differently from
the Tamron.

===============================================================
Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: media permanence (was Re: photo-developing, specifically nudes)
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:33:41 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

finn@isi.edu (Greg Finn) writes:

>	I doubt that paper tape is used on a significant scale now.  I
>never claimed that there weren't some old digital technologies still
>around, just that they are now insignificant.  Other than for
>mini-computers and ASR 33 ttys, paper tape never had much of a
>following from what I remember.  Certainly not by comparison with
>Hollerith cards.

How quickly they forget.  I see you've not been around the typesetting,
process control or machine tool biz very much.  Not only did paper
tape achieve dominance, it is still in widespread use.

OB: photo stuff. 

Hmm, now to get some of that fancy Iterated Systems Fractal compression
magic so I can take these 100 mb color scan files, compress 'em down to
60kb or so and plop 'em out on paper tape.  should last a millienum or
so.

John
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From: yuanj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Filter: 29R & CC30R, the same?
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:43:40 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

I wish the wisdom of the netters will tell me: Are the color compensating
filters the same as the otherwise named color filters?  For example, is the 29R
color filter relatively the same as CC-30R?  The former is only $15.95 from
Calumet while the latter costs more than $30 from any of the mail order places
on Pup. Photo., I mean, for 58mm size.

Just wish they are the same!

Newsgroups: rec.photo,misc.wanted
From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Leicaflex SL2 Mot
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 22:52:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

From article <1992Aug12.160739.22012@investor.pgh.pa.us>, by bwm@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bruce Miller #307):
> 
> I am interesting in obtaining a Leicaflex SL2 Mot (this is an
> SL2 body with the ability to take the Motor-Drive.  I currently
> have an SL2 and a few lenses, but would like to add the MD ability.

Long before I knew what the name "Leica" mean (photographically), I saw
a Leicaflex SL-1 at a shop back home outside US (thought then Nikon was
the best).  They wanted only what is less than $100US.  The camera was
in very good condition and now I can kick myself for not picking it up.
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: For Sale:  Yashica Mat 124 G TLR camera for sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:47:20
Organization: CSUA/UCB
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: marshall@marshall.Eng.Sun.COM's message of 17 Aug 92 19:32:41 GMT

$225 is very steep for a 124G not in super mint condition.  I paid
about $125 for mine.  After they were discontinued a few years ago the
price surged for a while because people felt like they had missed out
on the only decent cheap medium format camera then being made.  (They
were around $125 new when you could get them).  

For $225 you should be able to find an old Rolleiflex fairly easily.
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Medium-fomrat camera with a self-timer?
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:59:51 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Older medium formats had self timers- Rolleiflexes, Mamiya
645/1000s, Mamiya TLR with a certain lens (105?).  Today,
the Fujica 645 series does, I'm not sure about the Pentax 645.

I treasure self-timers, not so much because I want to get in the
shot, as that I don't have to mess around with a shutter release.

	Dave

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: Something between pro lab and instant lab 
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 23:48:13 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

The pro lab is too expensive, whereas the instant (regular) lab turn my
flash photo out with faces too white.  The latter it was said due to
the auto-exposure equipment used for printing in the instant lab.

Is there something in between that will turn out decent flash photo
w/o costing an arm and a leg?
From: gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: overexposed prints - camara or processing???
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:23:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug20.212337.27224
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <craigh.714325736@cserver> craigh@cserver.plexus.com (Craig Heilman) writes:
>I just bought a Nikon 8008s w/ 28-70mm zoom last weekend (mind-boggling
>features compared to my previous 12-year old SLR).  I shot off a roll of
>film the first day and just got the prints back.  Nearly all the prints
>are overexposed.  I let the camara do all the work (auto-focus, auto-exposure
>using the matrix metering).  It was a very sunny day and many of the photos
>were of lakeside scenes.  The processing was done by a discount store photo
>dept. (Shopko - my wife's choice).  I'm wondering if there is an easy way
>to determine the cause of the overexposure - film, processing, camara meter,
>or photo-taking technique (go ahead - blame it on me)...  

First thing I would do is forget about the print film.  If you really want
to see how your camera performs, put some slide film in it.  Like they say
in the computer graphic arts industry, "What you see is what you'll get",
basically speaking that is.

Gary
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From: fsjfz@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Multiple exposure calculations
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:53:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <20710@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com>, mtoms@ems.cdc.com (Mark Toms) writes:
>   I saw your posting on calculating the second exposure f stop
> on rec.photo and was interested in constructing a chart like the one
> below.  People might want to have a chart like this handy some
> times:
> 
> 
> 
> 1st exposure      2nd exposure should
> under by          be under by
> ---------------------------------------
...
 
Also possibly a modified chart, helping people emphasize one exposure (or
de-emphasize another).  For example, a portrait w/clouds in the background.
It's nice to have the portrait with just a little more emphasis than the
clouds, or vice versa.  Equal exposure makes things kinda muddy.
(gee- now you all know my secret gimmicky hide-the-negative experiments...)
 
James Zuelow
FSJFZ@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Photography in low light?
Summary: How do I do this?
Keywords: low light metering dark
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:57:59 GMT

I'm interested in trying out some shots in *really* low light--the kind
of levels where the colour receptors of the human eye no longer work.

However, my camera (EOS 630) only meters down to EV -1.  I wish it had
some kind of warning.  Instead it just picks the maximum aperture and
0.6"!  I suppose the fact that the AF doesn't even start up may be a
good hint (only AFs down to EV 1 according to the AF camera chart
posted by Glen Porter).

Why do I want to do this?  I might be taking pictures of club events,
including dances.  It seems rather unkind to blast some unsuspecting
couple with the flash during a slow dance!

Indeed, is there any film that can handle this?  It doesn't have to be
colour.  (I guess there's always IR flash photography...)

ACS

P.S.: I *can* focus without AF since I just got a focusing screen with
	the "new split" focusing aid!  It's *great*!  I have to agree
	with Jim Cathey that Canon and other companies are making a
	big mistake by not making such things available for *all* of
	their cameras!
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: scribler@bnr.ca (Dennis Richards)
Subject: Slow (64 speed) 110 film where????
Reply-To: scribler@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fiber Systems Development
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 21:28:44 GMT

Goodday,

I'm looking for a source (mail order) for slow 110 format
film. I had some 64 kodachrome slide film for 110 and
I'd like to get more. I'd also be happy with 100 speed
film for 110 format film  non slide (I know this format sucks but I
have a cheap underwater camera that uses this unfortunete
film). Anyways, they don't sell this stuff in Canada anymore.
Does anyone know where I can get these speeds of film???
I really would appreciate any help given. Please e-mail me
directly as I'm not much of a film buff thus I don't normally
read this newsgroup (I read rec.scuba though if you want to
post there instead of e-mailling me).

Thanx in advance

The Mad Scribbler     scribler@bnr.ca
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: photographer crossword clue
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:06:10 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk


It was

  s
 splitfield
  r
  a
  t
  t

I should have gone with my guess and entered, could have won an Epoca135

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From: helen@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Helen X. Qian)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Printing from Slides at home
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:44:30 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In article <1992Aug18.161142.5454@midway.uchicago.edu> ar12@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I'm curious about the slide printer-
>Is it possible to make larger prints than 3x5- does Vivitar make an 8x10
>printer? How much do these machines cost? This sounds like a great way
>of making polaroid transfer prints from 35mm slides!
>Andre
>
>C
>

To make 8x10 polaroid from slides, you need a Polaprinter and a print
processor.  The Polaprinter has already been discontinued by Polaroid.
I have no idea how much it would cost.  But I have seen a used 
processor advertised for about $700.  The cost of 8x10 type 108 film
is about $10 per sheet.  They come in 10 sheet package.

Yes. It would be very nice for polaroid transfer.  But definitely
outside of my budget allowance.

Helen
From: madler@vssad.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Adler)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Me and E6
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:33:34 GMT
Reply-To: madler@vssad.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Adler)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


You win mixing a fraction of a powdered chemical only if the crystals
are evenly distributed.  There is a reasonable chance that they are not.

Most instructions I've read for powders specifically discourage mixing
anything but the full package.

-Michael
From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Flash & Lens for Nikon FM2
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:40:54 GMT
Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida

memsthd@prism.gatech.EDU (MIKE WILEMAN) writes:
: honna@cs.concordia.ca (SEGEL honna) writes:
: >I suggest that you also consider the Viv285.
:
: This sounds like a good flash for my FM, but is there a flash which has all
: (or, at least, most) of these feature, particularly the fully variable
: manual power setting, which I can also occasionally use as a TTL flash
: with my 6006 body.

I asked about this on the net a few weeks ago, and it seems that the only
other camera-mounted flashes with a power reduction feature are made by
Sunpak.  Sunpak's power reduction has settings for 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16,
whereas the Vivitar does not have the 1/8 setting.  (I wonder why not?)

I think that certain higher-priced (and bulkier) Sunpak units have modules
to adapt to Nikon.  You might look into those.

Jay Ts