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From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re:  NeXTSTEP Release 3
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:41:49 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Sep2.175613.947@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
>
>
>In article <1992Sep1.182523.14963@glv.uucp> jcelam@confused (James Clifton
>Elam) writes:
>> Please drop a public line when you know how much documentation is
>on-line.  I had PR1 and PR2 and was somewhat scared that they might ship
>3.0 w/o full doc's.
>
>
>/NextLibrary is 55.5 megabytes on my system. I deleted of few things like
>the DSP assembler manual--less than 1MB deleted.
>
>M Carling
>Director, Bay Area NeXT Group

    Hmm.. It's 108 MB on my just-received 3.0 slab (400MB HD, with 150MB
    free as shipped)

    Has anyone running 3.0 had problems w/ Librarian ?	It crashes on me a
    lot (i.e. exits abruptly)... /usr/adm/messages says:

Sep  5 21:17:10 localhost Librarian[300]: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler.
Sep  5 21:17:11 localhost Librarian[300]: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler.
Sep  5 21:17:23 localhost Librarian[300]: An uncaught exception was raised
Sep  6 10:09:12 localhost Librarian[159]: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler.
Sep  6 10:09:12 localhost Librarian[159]: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler.
Sep  6 10:24:39 localhost Librarian[159]: An uncaught exception was raised
Sep  6 10:45:19 localhost Librarian[700]: Assertion failed: -dragImage: could not get image's global window number
Sep  6 14:02:31 localhost Librarian[986]: objc: FREED(id): message free sent to freed object=0xce720
Sep  6 21:17:18 moonshot Librarian[210]: objc: FREED(id): message removeName: sent to freed object=0xa07a8
Sep  6 21:17:18 moonshot Librarian[210]: objc: FREED(id): message removeName: sent to freed object=0xa07a8

					-Matt

>--
>"High tech is potent, precise, and in the end, unbeatable. The truth is,
>it reminds a lot of people of the way I pitch horseshoes. Would you
>believe some of the people? Would you believe our dog? Look, I want to
>give the high-five signal to high tech."
>			   George Bush, 4/25/89

--

    Matthew Dillon	    dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
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    Berkeley, Ca. 94708     ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chris (Chris Larson)
Subject: Re: MS Word - I need to run it
Reply-To: chris@oceania.com
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:14:28 GMT

Bob Peirce #305 writes
> My youngest goes to a school where they run MS Word on PCs and Macs.
> At least I believe it runs on both machines; I've never used either.
> Anyhow, I need to get some compatibility on the NeXT.  What's the
> best way?  She needs to be able to work at school AND home on the
> same floppy.
> 

I export documents from WriteNow as RTF files and import them into MS Word, and it seems  
to work great.  I've never tried going the other way (PC -> NeXT), but it _should_ work. 

That's what I'd do.

Chris
 
-- 
Chris Larson  <==>  chris@oceania.com  <==>  NeXT Mail is cool
Oceania Health Care Systems       Palo Alto, CA (415) 322-0127
The Software Ranch                Park City, UT (801) 649-3605

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Subject: Mathematica-paste problem
Organization: Brigham Young University -- Mathematics Department
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 17:32:02 GMT

I have Mathematica 2.0 on both my home slab and my work cube.  I wrote a
book this summer at home and was able to create Mma graphics and paste
them into the word processor or  draw.app  without any difficulty, but
I just noticed that when I try this on my machine at work, it doesn't
(work, that is).  In the console I notice a number of repeats of
 this message:

objc: class `selecttool' not linked into application

I don't know if this is related to the problem or not because I don't
seem to be able to make the message repeat any more, but the 
problem still exists.

Both machines are 68040 running  NS2.1, Mma 2.0 (but not purchased at
exactly the same time)  The OS on the home machine (where things work
fine) was built from the one at work (where things don't work!) but
they have been living apart for the last year (sniff).  Any ideas?

-Bill

--
Professor William V. Smith
Phone: 1-801-378-2061 Fax: 1 801 378 2800
email: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu  or  uunet!hamblin.math.byu.edu!smithw
NeXTmail: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu
SMail: Math Dept. -- 314 TMCB; BYU; Provo, UT 84602 (USA)
From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How can I turn off the menus altogether?
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:30:47 GMT
Reply-To: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I would like to use only the menu mouse button for accessing menus,
but I can't find a way in 2.1 to make the menus (that default to
appearing in the upper left of the screen) just turn off altogether.
I've tried moving them to the extreme lower right of the screen, but
they still show up a little and Mathematica's menu shows up quite a
bit more than any other app (v2.0.4.5 Mma).

In 3.0, can menus be turned off independantly of position on the
screen?  Has anyone come up with a way to have the same effect as
turning the menus off (except for hitting the menu mouse button)
in 2.1?

Thanks.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- No NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
Subject: Re: Praise and gripes about 3.0
Reply-To: suite!tarbell@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Suite Software, Anaheim CA.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:07:08 GMT

In adition to Icon, it would seem that Scene is hosed as well.
It's not even included in 3.0, and the 2.0 version doesn't work...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: PasteUp vs PageMaker vs Quark (RTF)
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:11:50 GMT

In article <SCOTT.92Sep4230802@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
>In article <873@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>,
>	glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid), who is being portrayed
>	by Jack Reynolds, writes:
>>While Glenn has been working hard to get the software out the door,
>>others have been assembling this comparison.
>>
>>If you'd like to know more, fire an email to reynolds@rightbrain.com
>>because the reply address on this post is to Glenn's account, not
>>mine.  He disabled my machine from posting (but was foolish enough
>>to leave his machine logged in and unattended!).
>
><large RTF posting omitted>
>
>Hopefully this time around Glenn will take more vigorous action -

Like a pink slip.  You are hurting your own company, Jack Reynolds!

Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chop_michael@tandem.com (Michael Chop)
Subject: anyone have an opinion about executor...		
Keywords: anyone have an opinion about executor...
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:57:08 GMT

hi,

i'd like to hear about executor, the mac emulator.  the demo is pretty cute, but how does it fare actually running other software.  speed, printing, system software, inits, blah blah blah...

come to think about it, is it still available?

michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco)
Subject: Re: PasteUp vs PageMaker vs Quark (RTF)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 17:49:19 GMT


>Like a pink slip.  You are hurting your own company, Jack Reynolds!

I agree. If users had no choice then I'd make a face and still fork over  
cash for PasteUp. Now I swear I will wait for Archetype and Pages to ship  
their products. That's one lost sale!

-Marcos J. Polanco
-shiva@vega.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: VirtSpace (mini -review)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:12:32 GMT


This is one neat App.  Do you have 12 Stuart windows open  
on 5 different hosts?  Does it take a minute to find the  
lastest Edit window you were working on?  Do you often have  
FrameMaker, Diagram, and Adobe Illustrator all running with  
a hoard of windows each.If you are the sort of person who  
has 6 different apps open all the time, and are constantly  
rummaging around trying to find the window that you were  
working on; if you are the sort of person who wishes he had  
a wall instead of a monitor; if your screen looks like your  
desk, with only 3 square inches of grey background visible  
most of the time, then shell out your thirty bucks and get  
VirtSpace

VirtSpace allows you to create a virual screen arbitrarily  
larger than the real screen, and spread out apps all over  
the place.  So you can have one corner where you are  
working on backup scripts and testing them, another corner  
where your default file viewer and mail box lives, another  
corner where you are compiling and testing xntpd, and the  
fourth corner where you have terminal sessions onto other  
hosts.

The interface is fairly easy to master, however I am having  
to change how I organize my screen.  Often clicking on an  
active icon makes one of that apps windows the key window,  
but that window isn't on the screen.  This was a bit  
mystifying at first, but I'm adapting quickly.

The authors are very responsive to suggestions, and  
questions about the program.

In the space of half a day VirtSpace has gone from a new  
toy to an absolute necessity.

Highly recommended.  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gianakon@cptc2.neep.wisc.edu (Thomas Gianakon)
Subject: Tektronix 4014 Terminal Emulation?
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin,Madison., NEEP Department
Distribution: comp
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:26:55

Does anyone know of a public domain package for Tektronix 4014 Terminal
Emulation on NeXT?  I've heard of a package called Communicae (Active
Ingredients, Inc.), and am curious if anyone has used it, and what
their opinion is of the software.  In particuliar, we are looking for
software which is comparable to Versaterm or Versaterm Pro on the
Macintosh.  Changing from Tektronix emulation is not feasible since
the research tools located at a remote Vax-cluster are heavily based
on such emulation.  

Any help would be appreciated, replies may be emailed to me
at gianakon@cptc1.neep.wisc.edu . Thanks again.

Tom
gianakon@cptc1.neep.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Subject: Not a modest proposal (was Re: 3.0 CD-ROM is *really* shipping.)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Keywords: really really
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:17:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.211445.22102@cs.sfu.ca> oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Richard O'Neill) writes:
>So, it is here. Even better is the fact that there are very few files
>only available as part of compressed packages, so people like me with small
>hard drives can mount the CD-ROM and access documentation and occasionally
>used tools straight from that, freeing up hard disk space.
>
>The only things in packages only are:
>
>   English.pkg (contains on-line help stuff)
>   NeXTTeX.pkg (the only annoying one for me, since I use TeX occasionally)
>   NeXT_AppleTalk.pkg
>   Sybase_DB-Library.pkg
>

Is any 3.0 owner willing to take the time to post a complete filelist of
what's on the 3.0 CD-ROM? That would certainly answer a lot of questions.
If size is really a problem, submitting the list to a suitable ftp site
would be great too.

>Regards,
>
>    Richard.
>-- 
>Composing a suitably apt and witty | [Mail to home machine is down right now]
>signature and disclaimer is left   | oneill@fornax.UUCP | NeXTmail OK, but
>as an exercise for the reader.     | oneill@cs.sfu.ca   | not >100K OK!

George

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: waltrip@capd.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Problem with Digital Librarian
Organization: CAPVAX, JHU/APL
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:49:55 GMT

I'm having a minor but somewhat annoying problem with Digital Librarian
on my 2.1 mono slab.  When run from my own account, UNIX Manual pages
display underlining as g_r_e_p_ instead of properly underlined or, as
it does in other accounts on my system, in bold.  I can't find anything
in preferences or in the manual to tell me what to do to "fix" it.

Anyone know (and willing to share 8^)?

Thanks.

Any opinions expressed (and I don't think, in my opinion, there were any) are
my own.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yrichard@erysichthon (Yllona Richardson)
Subject: AI on NeXT
Keywords: ai, shells, neural nets
Organization: Fannie Mae
Distribution: comp.ai, comp.ai.neural-nets
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:40:41 GMT



--
Hi there,

FannieMae is interested in the availability of AI software for the NeXT.   
Can anyone help?  Graduate projects are of interest as well; no project is  
too obscure.

Background:  
FannieMae (FNMA - Fed'l National Mortgage Association) is a secondary  
mortgage marketer.  We are currently developing a new business model which  
will incorporate distributed objects, artificial intelligence, and  
(hopefully) neural net technology.  
*------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
--------------------------------------------*
		"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away."   
-- Tom Waits
		Yllona Janine Richardson	::	yrichard@fnma.com
		Advanced Technology Group
		FannieMae	(Federal National Mortgage Association)
*------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
--------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu>
Subject: NS 3.0 & DBKit Oracle Adaptor
Reply-To: Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: ARCI, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:39:08 GMT

Could some knowledgeable DBKit/Oracle user post details as to what is required  
to use DBKit with Oracle.  More specifically, there was some discussion a while  
back as to weather or not SQL*Net was required.  What is the status of SQL*Net  
in the Oracle adaptor?  Is is just the client side, does it include the server  
side?  

---
Neil Greene 
Director, Computer Information Systems ARCI, Inc.
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu [NeXTmail]
Soon to be: neil@kynug.org, neil@benchmark.com
-- 
Neil Greene 
Director, Computer Information Systems ARCI, Inc.
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu [NeXTmail]
From: bchin@terminus.umd.edu (Bill Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on 486SLC2?
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:59:36 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Dept. of Good Guys and Cool Stuff

In article <1992Sep11.211028.5649@midway.uchicago.edu> wort@midway.uchicago.edu (Don Wortham) writes:
>Although IBM swears that its 386 and 486 SLC are fully Intel compatible, 
>I'm curious if this is so.  Anyone know if the long-awaited NeXTSTEP
>port to Intel 486 platforms will run on the IBM 486SLC chip?  Rumors are
>acceptable.

The head of NeXTSTEP 486 development dropped by the WaNUG meeting last
Wednesday, and gave us a short presentation on the upcoming product
and there was a Q&A session afterwards.

The answer to your question is that NS 486 uses a few 486 only instructions
for speed.  Therefore any 486 that implements *all* of the Intel 486
instruction set will work.  This means that the Cyrix 486SLC will not,
since that's just a 386 with a built in cache (several PC columnists
have mentioned this, and the confusion it causes).  If the IBM
fully implements the 486 instruction set, then it will work.  If not,
then it won't.  I know that IBM has the license to alter/manufacter
the 386 chip... I don't know if IBM has rights on the 486.  It sounds like
the IBM 486 isn't a real 486.

I haven't had a chance to post a report on our Q&A session... I might get
around to it tonight.  (hopefully)

--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, WaNUG - ANDI Technical Staff
bchin@is-next.umd.edu (WaNUG, home) - bchin@redwood.prc.com (work)
NeXTmail welcomed


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: VirtSpace (mini -review)
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 05:20:40 GMT

Sherwood Botsford writes
> [full review of VirtSpace deleted]
> In the space of half a day VirtSpace has gone from a new  
> toy to an absolute necessity.
> 
> Highly recommended.  

Second that.  Well worth the shareware fee.

Usual disclaimers.

--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green)
Subject: NeXT in higher-ed (Re: Not (was: NeXT Ships NeXTSTEP Release 3.0))
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:17:30 GMT

>> [NeXT doesn't support the higher ed market well/moving to MCCA markets]
>
> [NeXT is foolish to do this]

Just to add my two cents, I've noticed a vast improvement in support
in our area over the last couple of months.  My questions get answered
much faster (and in general correctly).  There seems to be more
willingness to work with you.  I'm not saying that NeXT is perfect and
that they have not made some corporate decisions that made me bang my
head against the wall, but at a personal level, NeXT's employees have
given us good support.

Thanks to Ed Villanyi and John Karabaic for a job well done.

Followups directed to comp.sys.next.advocacy 

Todd
--
NeXTmail:  tagreen@cica.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: frank@glocke.hotb.sub.org (Frank Thomas)
Subject: Re: Digital Librarian poops out!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:11:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.151426.24641@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>  
asm@eecg.toronto.edu (Anees Munshi) writes:
> Can anyone with 3.0 try testing DL under 3.0. The other bug
> seems to be regular expression search. It seems that it does
> not understand expressions like u*stand, but will do u* and
> *stand. Does it have a different regexp syntax, or is this
> another bug?
There is another bug(?) in DL (NS2.1):
If you switch to match prefixes in the preferences it only finds those  
words that are really prefix => `map` doesn`t match `map` but `maps`.
I think this at least counter intuitive.
From: pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: Re: Two questions about Music
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:45:34 GMT


[Why was this "Distribution: usa" ??]

In article <1992Sep7.195225.2136@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van  
Huizen) writes:
> In article <1992Sep5.202231.22044@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
> valardin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Heck) writes:
> > 
> > 1) Is there a way to connect a CD player with a digital (optical)
> > output to the DSP port? If so, is there software to read and play
> > music from the CDplayer through this link? I know I can redigitize the
> > analog output and run that through, but I was wondering whether there
> > is a direct digital setup.
> > 
> You can't directly plug a digital audio source into the DSP port.
> 

Well, for those of you who have given up on
c.s.n.m, here's the proof that some useful info
actually finds its way there from time to time!

> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
> From: andi@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Andi Krall)
> Subject: Re: CD -> NeXT
> References:  <Bu1uzu.8L6@newcastle.ac.uk>
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:45:18 GMT
> Lines: 15
> 
> A small company is selling a device to connect CD players and audio
> DAT recorders via optical and coaxial connector to the DSP port. They
> also have all device drivers. You can contact Ernst Parth at
> 
> Adaptive Systems
> Wohllebengasse 15
> A-1040 Wien, Austria (Europa)
> Tel.: (+43 1) 50 54 158
> Fax.: (+43 1) 50 41 597
> 
> -- 
> [sig]

Now, this seems to be what Mr. Heck is looking for... no?

[BTW, if the info checks out, perhaps it should go into the
FAQ. This question seems to pop up periodically.]
--
Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette       pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca
MacNUG president                      | *NeXTmail encouraged* 
graduate student, McMaster university | Je ne suis pas infaillible.
Physics and astronomy dep.            | Vive le Quebec LIBRE!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c
From: yzhao@cs.uh.edu (Yi Zhao)
Subject: etags, ctags, ...
Organization: Computer Science dept.,  Univ. of Houston (Main Campus)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:17:27 GMT


I have some problems in using [e/c]tags with Objective-C files on NeXT
computers. etags does not recognize Objective-C constructs. ctags recognize
some Objective-C constructs, in a typical NeXT way: you never know why.
Some of the problems I had are:

	. If you use @class for some class A, it only finds the place to
	  where @class A is declared, not the place where @interface A is
	  defined.
	. For methods, sometime it finds the method in the .h file, while
          sometimes, it finds the method in the .m file.
	. You cannot find an alternate definition of the tag in Edit.app by
	  Source command.

   Generally, I prefer to use etags with Emacs. But unfortunately, my version
of etags does not support Objective-C constructs. So the question is: is there
a version of etags knowing Objective-C constructs in the net? or any other
advices regarding ctags on NeXT?

   Any advice is appreciated.
From: rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VirtSpace (mini -review)
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:05:54 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <BuHA8G.Fv3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Doug  
McClure) writes:
>>In <12SEP199203473147@acad3.alaska.edu> fxmlk@acad3.alaska.edu (KIENENBERGER  
MIKE L) writes:

[great info deleted]
>>-doug mcclure

How do I get a copy [ ftp impared ] ?

--
Ronald Pomeroy			[Objective-Cruntime: [SmallTalk runtime]];
Advanced Micro Devices	[self dream-on];
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: How can I turn off the menus altogether?
Reply-To: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:00:17 GMT

I should clarify my problem: I have moved the menus almost all the way
off the screen but there is a little left in the lower right corner
(where I 'hid' mine currently).  I am really looking for a clean way
(aka, 'hit this button and it'll do what you want', but it's looking
bleak for 2.1.  Is there a clean way to just REMOVE the menus in 3.0?

Thanks.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- No NeXTmail please
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