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From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Subject: Re: lying to oneself (was Re: Sanctity of relationships)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:28:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.192653.25304@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>In  <1992Apr10.151914.6471@u.washington.edu>  intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>>
>> Oh but Larry, the *burning* question here ... what millions of people are
>> dying to know is just HOW did you discover she was lying?
>
>Well, I was trying to avoid being explicit in order to not offend
>anyone's sensibilities, but since you asked...
>
>I was going down on her, when I discovered
>   Fee, fie, foe, fum,
>   I smell someone else's cum...

Oh LORD!!  Gross!  What a gal....I hope you dumped her.

Angelwing -  geesh .....

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: melliott@convex.com (Mark Elliott)
Subject: Re: DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER...
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:06:53 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Apr6.164453.11923@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:

>In article <1992Apr6.130849.17065@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>
>>Lick-'m-Aid?
>>
>>-Nance

>Flavor Straws?

Isn't that the stuff my kids keep bringing home that has some kind of flavor
packets and a sugar stick to lick on and dip back into the sugar infested
packets? 

.......and their mom wonders why the kids are so hyper when she gets them.


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Love: Is it a power thing?
Originator: lnds@zeus.biochem.ualberta.ca
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:09:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.050246.13585@news.Hawaii.Edu>, venki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (N. Venkateswaran) writes:

> I solicit your opinion on:
>
> "In love, the one who loves less is the winner."

   "In limerence, the one who is less limerent is the winner."

   Yes, this is true.

userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca		Mark Israel
Instinctive grammatical moralizer.
From: hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Second Move
Date: 17 Apr 92 21:01:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr17.210122.22019
Organization: U.W. Information Systems

In article <1992Apr17.152857.3015@u.washington.edu>, intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
> Do you, perhaps, mean OUIJA board?  Hmmm?  Or is a weege board something
> new that you Info Systems types have cooked up?  

OUIJA board! That's the ticket. The weege board goes in my DECstation.

> Angelwing - Woman on the edge.

It's a big building, don't jump.

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From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re:      A R C
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:50:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <9204070353.AA17034@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
>
>        Alison Rebecca Colman errors with
>
>                " There are *plenty* of aggressive women willing
>                  to make the first move "
>
>      At last. Somebody more deceived than me.
>      Man, what a relief.

Oh pooh Broward!  There ARE lots of aggressive women willing to make the
first move. Just because they don't move on you doesn't mean they don't exist.

Angelwing - Alison is right, Broward is wrong.
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:58:37 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr10.174319.27815@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey J. Lin) writes:
>In <65164@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>
>>Maybe. But then maybe the men would start playing hard to get,
>>and we would have to get them drunk on truffles in order to have
>>our way with them.
>
> 	Hey! Who says men don't play hard to get?  
>
>						Mikeey
>
Good point. Some of the men on this group seem to think that only
women play hard to get. But the "who wants sex more" discussion is on 
moratorium for another three months...

--
Stef                 Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
stef@apple.com     
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: The Second Move
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 20:59:55 GMT

>>intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:

>Well what I hadn't taken into account before was that maybe the reason
>that some of you men out there don't know how to read the signals is that
>women haven't been giving you any.  

Or perhaps it is because when we learned to read we had a dictionary
to determine the meanings of words. But when we attempt to learn to
read signals, we run up against the fact that a particular signa means
exactly what Angelwing wishes it to mean, at whatever moment she
wishes to give it this meaning. 

-- 
"The truffle is not an outright aphrodisiac, but it may in certain
 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kerryg@stat.rice.edu (Kerry Go)
Subject: Re: Older men and younger women (advice needed)
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:18:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.073248.12543@u.washington.edu> hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern) writes:
>Alright, I lied. I do know a little about a man being older than the woman. I have two little brothers to prove it (5 and 3). My fathers "new" wife is 10 to 15 years his junior, and there's no stigma attached to that. In fact until the late 80's it was a social norm for only men to have younger mates/date/etc. Cher and some other hollywood (little h) types took the heat in the new (to this half of this century) trend.

I don't see the stigma attached to older men/younger women either.  If you
expect the man to financially support his wife, you would expect the man to
be older than his wife.

>How many people, who are not post "baby boomers", have fathers more than five years older than their mother? Lots, I'll bet. The average goes up as you go further back in time.

Well, the average will probably have to go down if you go far enough back in
time.  After all, if people live only 30 years, you can hardly expect a man
to be 15 years older than his wife.  :-)

>People born between 1900 and 1950 haven't made much of a man being older than a woman.

I'm a post baby boomer, and my father is still five years older, but I don't
consider him "much" older than my mother.  Personally, I don't see five years
as much difference at all, even for the people I date.

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The person I want to live my life with is the person to whom I can give the
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mcregor@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Meloney Cregor)
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Organization: Dept. of Psychology, Univ. of Illinois, Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:39:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.155156.1198@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:

>Bill bill bill ...*sigh* this is soc.singles.  The newsgroup full of
>cynics and sociopaths.  heh  Okay we're NOT sociopaths.  But there is a

Wanna Bet.

I have recently been delving into the literature on psychopathology and
sociopathic personality and am currently reading *the*  book by the initial
psychopathy god, _The Mask of Sanity_ by Hervey Cleckly and you'd be
greatly surprised at just how many sociopaths there might be in/reading
singles.

We just fondly refer to them here as....jerks.
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Sleeping Around While Dating (was Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH)
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:26:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <willimsa.703288181@unix1.tcd.ie> willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams) writes:
>In <1992Apr14.153450.2069@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>>In article <GRUND.92Apr14040356@pyrite.som.cwru.edu> grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:
>>>
>>>I'd have a hard time maintaining a romantic relationship (physical or
>>>otherwise) with a women who I knew was activity bonking some other man
>>                                                 ^^^^^^^
>
>>The term you are looking for is *boinking*, Vic.  BOINKING!  Bonking is
>>being hit over the head .....and I really can't see what the hang up would
>>be if your object of affection was hitting some other guy other the head.
>
>As Cliff might say, "Au contraire, mon frere", or even "ma soeur"! :>
>The verb to 'boink' is almost unheard of in Europe, instead, we use
>to 'bonk'.
>In fact, the only time *I* have heard the word, 'boinking' was during an
>episode of 'Moonlighting', where DA was annoying MH by saying, "Listen,
>can't you hear it?  Out there, millions of people boinking every day!"
>
 
You know I often see s.s. threads picked up on TV. There's a spy in our
mist's and we're not getting paid.
 
>--
>As usual, JIMHO.
>	  Gavin...                  Plus qu'il n'en faut.           
>	  willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie                                      
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: FA.TJM@forsythe.stanford.edu (thom mckean)
Subject: More Disc on Romantic Songs
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:16:19 GMT

I suppose a discussion of "romantic" music is appropriate to this
group (I hope I don't incur the cynical wrath of Angelwing...).

Rather than make suggestions, I'd rather put forth a question about
such music.

Why do people *like* such sappy love songs as...well, say, anything
by Air Supply?

Whenever I hear such songs, I get visions of Hello, Kitty and people
in pink sweatshirts with frolicking teddy bears on them.

They lack the raw emotion, the vibrant passion of what I consider to
be love - I don't even feel particularly happy when hearing the
songs.  I feel like someone's trying to delude me instead.

Explanation, anyone?  Am I a freak?  Obviously, lotsa folks like
this stuff, else they wouldn't be Top 40 hits.  I just wanna know
WHY!

Thom
When I said that I loved you I meant that I loved you
forever...that's a lyric?
From: rcf@pnet01.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: want-sex(women) < want-sex(men)
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:16:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr15.131630.19401
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>
>   My theory is that men have a greater BUILT-IN sex drive than women.
>(This doesn't prevent women from finding sex pleasurable and wanting to
>repeat the experience.)  Meloney Cregor and Valerie Maslak have offered
>themselves as counterexamples, but I would like to get some more data
>points.
>


     I don't know; I still wonder about this.  More specifically, I've been
wondering lately about Margaret Sanger founding Planned Parenthood and the
correlation with women not wanting sex.  She founded it after watching her
mother get old at an early age due to having 9 or 10 children.  In the days
before reliable birth control, women had to fear getting pregnant everytime
they got laid.  Under those circumstances it's possible that turning off to
sex was a good way to avoid the danger.  It may be that this has been
thoroughly socialized into women and the age of birth control hasn't yet
caught up to it.  Once something like this gets into a group's psyche, it's
often difficult to get rid of.  The socialization may continue long after the
reason for it has disappeared.

Bob c/o The OTH Gang
rcf@pnet01.cts.com
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:22:21 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Apr5.160718.10837@midway.uchicago.edu> pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
>In article <s4mjv9f@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>Calling a non-monogamous relationship 'open' is simply a candy coating for
>>the fact that you can't trust your partner (or yourself) enough in a
>>trusting relationship to remain faithful. IM(Never)HO.
>I strongly disagree, rON.  It takes a LOT of trust to tell your
>partner, "I trust your judgment and trust you to sleep with anyone
>you want.  I also trust you to stay with me."

There's still something wrong with this...what's wrong with asking for
monogamy >as it is<. Saying 'Oh, I trust you to do what you want' is
simply asking them to remain monogamous, but your just 'preparing'
yourself because you really don't trust your partner, and you want to
be ready with the 'Oh, I guess I couldn't trust him/her after all' when
they play with your trust- or the 'I'll give her/him *one more chance*,
but thats all' beating.

>Besides, how is an "open relationship" different from the stage
>where you're just starting to date someone and he's dating one or
>two other women at the same time?  Do you insist from the first date
>on that your object of desire *never* date anyone else?  At such time
>before you decide to become exclusive, isn't that like an open relationship?

Hell- you gotta make some sort of a commitment to your partner at some
point in a relationship, ya know.....
Sure, there is the period of 'openess'- it would be pretty stifiling if
every date demanded exclusivity from day one. Shades of 'Fatal Attraction'.
But, like I said, there has to be some point in a relationship where some
sort of commitment to each-other has to be made. I'm not talking about
marriage vows or anything- but a point where you gotta say 'OK, I've spent
lots of time/energy/life/whatever on this here person, they are my SO'.

Otherwise, whats the point of >having< an SO?

r.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: TheNiceGuyNOT! <GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu>
Subject:      DrMax To the Emergency Room
To: soc.singles.usenet
Reply-To: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu
Organization: DEC Palo Alto
Date:         Mon, 06 Apr 92 16:05:01 MST


        DrMax doubles her Malpractice insurance with:

            " what is good is hard to get "

        I thought y'all said you were 36 years old.
        Been in surgery *way* too long then.

        Hey, maybe for *women* that's true. :)

        In that case, I'm the *best* you ever saw. :) :) :)
        Untouchable, even.
From: pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:33:40 GMT
Organization: Medieval England, Iowa

In article <7sqj2ff@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.140035.7681@midway.uchicago.edu> pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
>>In article <ptpj77h@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>>There's still something wrong with this...what's wrong with asking for
>>>monogamy >as it is<. 
>>Nothing ... as long as that's what you really want.  But what if you
>>don't really need or want monogamy?  An open relationship is when you
>>don't NEED to be the only one your SO is sleeping with.  If you want
>>to talk about trust, it's about trusting your SO to keep coming back
>>to you even if he does sleep with someone else.  You trust that the
>>bonds that hold you together are so strong that sex with another
>>person can't pull them apart.  
>
>Yes, but saying 'I trust you enough to not sleep with other people' (your
>attribution) is the *same* *thing* as a monogamous relationship, only by
>having to come out and >express< your trust, it weakens that trust.

No, no, no!!!  I did NOT say "I trust you enough to not sleep with
other people."  You entirely misread what I said.  I said an open
relationship (to me) is based on "I trust you to sleep with other
people if you want to and still come back to me."  VAST difference.
(No, no, Larry, not "vas deferens" -- calm down! ;-)

>I understand that a good 'open' relationship is possible. Its not >my< ball
>of cookies, but it is possible. Most 'open' relationships >I've< seen,
>though, are of the type described above, and that I see as 'unhealthy'.
>r.

I'm interested in hearing about how many truly open relationships
you've seen, and whether they were failed monogamies or open from
the start.

Pooh
      pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu
From: terry-g@by-tor.Gwinnett.COM (Terry Gardner)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Cards
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:00:52 GMT
Organization: Klone@Home

margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
: In  <1992Apr4.012259.12207@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>  kscummi@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Kimberly S. Cummings) writes:
: > In article <1992Apr03.195154.24968@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes
: > >
: > >Do you mean like my "Free Moustache Rides" cards?  :-)
: >
: > Larry, I just want you to know that after 2 glasses of ice tea, a
: > diet coke, and several hours on the computer, I was about to take a
: > much needed break when I read this.  I almost had a "personal hygene
: > crisis"!
: 
: I take it you're talking about a different kind of personal hygiene crisis
: than El Piglet's splattering her screen with Cherry Coke?
: 
: This is soc.singles; I think you want alt.sex.golden-showers.  :-)
: 
: > BTW, I hope you don't get these mixed up with your business cards...
: > could be a "hairy" situation!
: 
: No, but I did once print up cards that looked exactly like my business cards,
: except that the title was "Director of Perversion".  *Those* I had to be
: careful of.  :-)
: 
: > Kay Cee
: 
: Didn't you used to be with the Sunshine Band?
: 
: Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

No, Casem..
-- 
	Aborting, Retrying, Ignoring, and Failing.....
	$ make love
	Don't know how to make love. Stop.
	Terry J. Gardner, terry-g@Gwinnett.COM, terry@thdhub
Newsgroups: soc.singles,talk.bizarre
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: helpful Hints on "elements of seduction"
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:36:00 GMT


Do not try to use isotopes.

ciao
drieux
From: swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:19:01 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Apr13.195157.11209@watson.ibm.com>,
Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com> writes: 
> In  <1992Apr13.094543.11657@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>  swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>> Women such as myself who find intelligence,
>> creativity, and eccentricity appealing
> 
> Yoo hoo - over here!  :-)
> 
> Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

Er, sorry?  I'm having trouble seeing you through this forest of broadswords,
cloaks, plumed hats, stuffed fire lizards and wizard's staffs.  Pity.

				--Beth
 
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re:      Broward's Wrong.
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:29:07 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr9.154118.29466@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
|In article <9204090136.AA14899@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
|>
|>      Angelwing. Angelwing. Still mad about me keeping my virginity, huh?
|>      Eh, you HAD your chance. :)
|
|Oh but in the *restaurant*?!?  They really frown on that, dontcha know.

Why did this remind me of the restaurant scene in "When Harry Met Sally"?


-- 
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| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
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From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper personals phenomena
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:22:46 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Apr9.194341.14690@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> au138@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John S. Kennedy) writes:
>I guess it's just that, in this society, the male is the persuer and is
>trained to take the more active role in persuing relationships.  We have to
>do something to correct this!

Ahhhh... so THAT'S my problem.  I don't know how to "pursue" a woman and
feel uncomfortable doing so anyway.  (I pursue my cat when she gets outside -
or I did when I had a cat.)

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

Can't let go - there's a madness in my soul tonight.
				- Bryan Ferry, "Can't Let Go"
Newsgroups: soc.singles