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From: mori@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Atsushi Mori)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: GT6000 no riyou
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:23:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo


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    +------+                   Ether
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Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: a40856a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Mamoru Kohno)
Subject: Canon LBP mode select
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:56:26 GMT

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Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: shmz@mars.ee.sophia.ac.jp (Naohiko Shimizu)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: Re: Q: compression mode on HP DeskJet 500J?
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:30:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Electrical Electronic Engineering Dept., Sophia Univ., Tokyo,
	Japan

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From: cond@lsi-j.co.jp (Yoshiyuki KONDO)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers,fj.comp.texhax
Subject: Re: LBP404E v. PR1000/4
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:39:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: LSI Japan Co. Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

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In article <1993Jan22.114637.27332@wsdnws.waseda.ac.jp> ytsuji@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Y.Tsuji") writes:
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|   $@$,$J$/!"L^BN$J$$$h$&$K;W$o$l$^$9!#(JCannon$@$N(JLBP-A404E$@$O%a%b%j!<!"%4%7%C%/(J
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Yoshiyuki KONDO		    | My opinion, which is completely mine,
<cond@lsi-j.co.jp>	    | and mine alone, belongs to me.  And
LSI Japan Co., Tokyo, Japan | to no one else!
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: hashi@dragon.tds.co.jp (HASHIZUME Takashi)
Subject: Re: PS color Printer
Organization: Tokyo Electronic Design Corporation, Tokyo, Japan.
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 02:21:07 GMT


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$@665M(J $@N4(J  Takashi Hashizume  hashi@lion.tds.co.jp
$@El5~EE;R(J$@@_7W3t<02q<R(J  Tokyo Electronic Design Corp.
Tel 0423-71-1121
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: ytsuji@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Y.Tsuji")
Subject: LBP404E v. PR1000/4
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: zoo.cfi.waseda.ac.jp
Organization: Shagaku, WASEDA University, Tokyo
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:46:37 GMT


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From: kgotoh@biwa.juice.or.jp (Kazumasa Gotoh)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: Re: LBP404E v. PR1000/4
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:34:44 GMT
	<1993Jan23.123816.5225@si.hirosaki-u.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: juice site, Urawa City, Saitama, Japan.


Juice $B$N8eF#$H?=$7$^$9!#(B

>>>>> On 23 Jan 93 12:38:16 GMT, si92004@si.hirosaki-u.ac.jp (Shigehiro Sakai) said:

>> $B;d$N=jB0$9$k8&5f<<$G$O(BEPSON$B$N(BLP-2000$B$r9XF~$7$^$7$?!#(B
>> #$B@53N$K$O%j%3!<$N(BSP-2000$B$@$1$IJ*$OF1$8!#(B

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>> $B#9#8$GMxMQ$9$k$N$J$i!"(BTEX$B$J$i(BDVIOUT (ESSC/Page)$B$r;H$($k$N$G(B
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    $B8eF#OB@/!wHzGG2L=A(J    kgotoh@biwa.juice.or.jp
From: a40856a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Mamoru Kohno)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: Re: LBP404E v. PR1000/4
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:14:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.

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In article <1993Jan22.114637.27332@wsdnws.waseda.ac.jp> ytsuji@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Y.Tsuji") writes:

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Newsgroups: ba.transportation,ba.politics,ca.environment
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: SPUR meeting on SF Transbay Terminal
Keywords: CalTrain extension Transbay Terminal
Organization: LLNL
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:30:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.185120.4554@ntmtv> adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
>In article <1jr143INNh7l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Priven) writes:
: I've written before that I think it makes more sense for Oakland to be
: the rail hub of the Bay Area;
>
>It's going to be San Jose.  That's where Amtrak will be moving over
>the next several years.  A state-of-the-art joint Amtrak/CalTrain
>maintenance facility is going to be built near Lick (a couple miles
>south of Tamien CalTrain station in San Jose).  It is likely that
>Amtrak will extend the Zephyr and San Joaquins to San Jose too.

	I'm sure that the Amtrak and CalTrain folx like all that land
there, especially since the rebuilt I-880 will be eating up some of
Amtrak's and SP's yard at West Oakland, but San Jose is _not_
centrally located in the Bay Area. San Francisco and Oakland are the
strongest candidates for centrality, with the winner probably being
Oakland.

	Although the CZ can make it to San Jose without too much
trouble, the San Joaquins have the problem of making a _big_ loop
around the East Bay. That makes it quicker to take a bus from Stockton
to San Jose than go the extended San Joaquin route. For that,
passenger train service on UP's Altamont Line will have to be started.
That runs: Fremont -- Pleasanton -- Livermore (yay!) -- Tracy --
Stockton. Would a northbound San Joaquin be split at Stockton?

	There is also the interesting question of extending some San
Joaquins to Sacramento from Stockton. Here again, would this be
implemented by splitting a northbound San Joaquin at Stockton? Or
would there be a second San Jose -- Sacramento train that goes San
Jose -- Stockton -- Sacramento?


-- 
/Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
/lip@s1.gov
From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Stopping at Signs (was Re: Pushbuttons at crossings...)
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:30:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1993Jan22.215009.12676@ntmtv>, adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
> In article <jyc.727721777@Leland>, jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
> > I think the fine for running a red light should be raised to
> > several hundred dollars, and then communities should consider the
> > bozos who run lights as a sort of "cash cow" to be milked by stationing
> > policemen to hand out tickets to every one of them.  It would be like
> > shooting fish in a barrel.
> 
> Better yet, do what I've seen used on some intersections in Germany:
> Install, as part of the signal-light and auto-sensing system, pole-
> mounted photo units that photograph any auto running a red light.
> This should help improve revenue and/or compliance and at least that
> way the nice policeman can do something a little more useful than
> watching an intersection...  This is a great application photo-radar
> type technology.  As with photo-radar, the registered owner gets the
> ticket in the mail.

Why not just install sensors in cars so the car can turn the driver in?
I find the big-brotherism with the photo-radar to be scary.  One of
Europe's worse ideas.

jeremy
From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: CalTrain Article
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:49:39 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1993Jan26.203111.21845@ntmtv>, adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
> Jeremy Higdon includes about 40 lines of old text just to write:
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > In fact, for many hours after the quake, the only transit in SF was
> > the good old diesel bus.
> 
> Let's try not to include more than is necessary for proper context.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
> UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
> ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov

First you chide Loren and now me.  Did you wake up on the wrong side
of bed, Adrian?  Of course, a private email would have sufficed, but
then you would have missed an opportunity to make a public attack.
I think you just didn't like the message.

jeremy
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From: jciccare@adobe.com (John Ciccarelli)
Subject: Re: Pushbuttons at crossings (was Signal Synchronization) 
Reply-To: jciccare@adobe.com (John Ciccarelli)
Organization: Adobe Systems, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:52:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.173841.19227@athena.mit.edu> rnewman@athena.mit.edu (Ron Newman) writes:
>
>I've never understood why there is so much emphasis put on getting
>bicycle-friendly detector loops.    I can think of at least two
>approaches that cost less and are better for the bicyclist:
>
>(a) Put a sign at the intersection reading, "Bicycles Need Not Stop
>At This Light"
>
>(b) Get your town or city to pass a resolution saying that no municipal
>funds will be spent to enforce any traffic laws against bicyclists.
>
>In Massachusetts, we effectively have (b).   The result is that
>bicycles can get where they want easily, often faster than cars,
>and no money is spent at all.

I sincerely hope you're joking on both points.  How can waiting at
a cross street of a busy road, unable to trip the signal, possibly
be "better for the bicyclist"?  Or better yet, getting halfway
across before being broadsided by someone who wasn't expecting you
(since it's green in their direction)?  Not every cyclist has the
acceleration or top speed to dart across a 4+ lane road between
cross traffic.

And while traffic laws are (currently) rarely enforced against
cyclists, you can bet this cyclist would like to see wrong-way
riders and red-light runners (except in the can't-trip-the-signal 
case) cited.  And "fix-it" tickets given to "stealth bikes" at
night.  In Palo Alto the Bicycle Advisory Committee is working with
the police department to give them handout materials to give to
inexperienced cyclists they see doing unsafe maneuvers.  It's
a start.

Gee -- let's stop enforcing the laws for motorists too!  It'd save
lots of money, I'm sure, and the carnage would mean fewer cars on
the road as time goes on... certainly better for the bicyclist ;-)

-- 
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jciccare@mv.us.adobe.com  Mountain View CA USA 94039-7900 |  ='\<,    ='\<,
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=== "If you live within 7 miles of your job, why drive?" === BIKE TO WORK ==
From: BL.JYC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jon Corelis)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Stopping at Signs (was Re: Pushbuttons at crossings...)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 09:20:48 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan23.034221.17023@pbhya.PacBell.COM>,
whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes:
>In article <jyc.727721777@Leland> jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
>>
>>   What astonishes me more than any other traffic phenomenon is how
>>often drivers run red lights.  I can say without exaggeration that in
>>most places it is routine for drivers to do this.  The notion that the
>>yellow light means you're supposed to slow down and prepare to stop
>>rather than speed up in a (usually futile) effort to beat the red seems
>>never to have occurred to most motorists.
>
>Possibly its becasue you misunderstand the nature of teh law regarding
>these practices.  ...

   No, I understand the law perfectly well.  It's you that misunderstand
my complaint, which is:

     1)  Driver half a block away from the intersection sees light
         change from green to yellow.

     2)  Even though any idiot can see it's unlikely that driver can
         clear intersection before yellow turns to red by continuing at
         safe and legal speed, driver is even bigger moron than this and
         says, "Duhh-huh-uh ... me better step on it to beat red light
         uh-huhhh duhhh..."

     3)  Driver reaches intersection seconds after light has changed to
         full red but is travelling much to too fast to stop at that
         point.

     Here we can branch:

     4a)  Worst case outcome:  Driver runs over eight year old kid who
          began to cross street with walk light after driver's light
          had turned red.

     4b)  Most likely outcome:  Driver clears intersection lucky enough
          not to hurt anyone, leaving behind crowd of astonished
          bystanders staring after him as he speeds off chuckling
          to himself, "Duh-huhh ha ha ha Me beat red light duh-huh
          heeheehee!"

     4c)  Better outcome:  Cop pulls driver over and cites for
          recklessly running red light.

     5c)  Best case outcome:  Cop finds outstanding warrants on
          driver and throws driver's lead-footed ass in slammer.

   There -- now does that clarify things?
Newsgroups: ba.transportation,ba.politics,ca.environment
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: SPUR meeting on SF Transbay Terminal
Keywords: CalTrain extension Transbay Terminal
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:48:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.234141.29792@ntmtv>, adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
> 	3. The CalSpeed High Speed Rail service currently being
> 	studied.  This is an estimated $9 billion TGV-type rail
> 	service connecting San Francisco and Los Angeles with
> 	200mph trains via SFO, San Jose, Fresno and Modesto with
> 	end-to-end travel times of less than 3 hours^^^^^^^

Whoops!  I meant to write Bakersfield, not Modesto.

-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
From: fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Priven)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Bringing CalTrain to Market St. (or nearby)
Date: 24 Jan 93 05:37:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (College Eight)
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1555@dosbears> dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com writes:
>In article <murphy.727799200@well.sf.ca.us> murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy) writes:
>>
>Extending CalTrain to Market Street is a more complex problem. A
>subway route would be quite expensive and would, additionally,
>require electrification of CalTrain (which is, I think, planned.)
>A surface route would be politically unfeasible.  

What about an elevated route?  It's not as expensive as a subway and I
think there's more than enough clearance under the Bay Bridge.  And
it would be only a few blocks in what is not considered the swankiest
part of town.

 =Aaron=
-- 
Aaron Priven, fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu
  Bring in the workers, and bring up the rails;
  We're gonna lay down the tracks, and tear up the trails. 
  Open her heart, let the life-blood flow,
  Gotta get on our way 'cause we're movin' too slow.
    -- Gordon Lightfoot, "Canadian Railroad Trilogy"
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