HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: How do you change swap space on a 400t?
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:47:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.215819.11318@polari.com>, lampi@polari.com writes:

  First, swap space consists of the free disk space on your boot disk...
  I understand that this is changing in 10.4 and swap space can be placed on
  disks other than the boot volume.

Are you sure?  I thought this was changed in sr10.3, maybe before.  If not,
then what does /etc/swapon (and the swapon() system call) really do?
From: lunnon@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: HP OSF plans and *preserving* my investment
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:08:19 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <1640012@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM>, mik@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#Michele Isernia) writes:
> I would like to add something regarding "flames" I've seen
> 'cause of an answer I wrote...
> 
> 1) I've seen flames coming on the internet for two years;
>    I've agreed with most of those, also because, being an
>    Apollo employee, I've had problems too looking at some
>    of our (Apollo) technolgies fading out...
> 2) We cannot complain forever and not tring sometimes to
>    reset out mood and try find the bset available solution
>    to our problems...
> 3) I think it's time to be positive,...I mean accept some
>    storical situations (some HP decisions are no more
>    reversible...), and take advantage of the fact that now
>    HP is on the right tune.
> 
> This is the message I'd like to pass, ..pls. stop to use
> this group (internet) as a psycological relief of our bad
> mood, and start to ask and reply to concrete and feasible
> things...

A tall order given the almost complete disintegration of Apollo in the
fall out from the HP takeover (can hardly call it a merger now can we ?? )
HP also seem to want to make our existing 030 hardware a dinosaur soon by
refusing OSF/1 on it as well, what are we supposed to do ... cheer ???


> HP is still open for a lot of possibilities, but not to
> rethink the "DN10k" or "Domain/Os" decisions...
> We can try to help you solve the problem created by those
> decisions....
> 
> It's possible that our help is not going to solve completly
> your problems, but, believe me, we are trying to do our best.
> 
You better beleive it ... we can solve our problems right now by not buying
from HP. We have just jumped ship and are now acquiring OSF/1 platforms on
R3000 CPU's .. I hope this is what HP intended cause I think it is going to
happen _A_LOT_ ... This end of the workstation market is very competetive
at the moment and most workstations are cheaper than HP, maintenance from HP
costs twice as much and still didn't save our DN10K from extinction. When you've
got the vendor against you as well as all the other vendors trying to woo you
the decision to jump becomes very easy. Especially when your existing OS is
going to be pulled out from under you anyway, with no migration path to OSF/1
on your existing hardware (DN3500s)
.

> 
> Mik.
> (...Mik is my login, because my Italian name is pretty difficult
>  and sometimes my name is taken as a "female" name,..and it's not..)
> 

BTW Mik this message was not intended as a flame though it sounds like one
so please don't take offense. It's really intended as a _Wake up Hp, your
existing user-base IS important_ message. 
See you on comp.sys.<something other than apollo>
 
	BOB
	R.Lunnon@qut.edu.au
	< Disclaimer here, this is my position , which is not likely the
          position of QUT, ( with all this positioning we may well actually
          get somewhere ... :-) >


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: edsver4@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Jane R. Kramer)
Subject: wheel is group owner of ftp'd files
Reply-To: edsver4@ed4000-2.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA - Lewis Research Center
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:31:50 GMT


When users ftp files onto my workstations, the group owner of the file is 
always wheel.  How can I get the group owner of the file to be the user's
group?

-- 
Jane Kramer                                Sverdrup Technology, Inc.
(216) 826-6737                             2001 Aerospace Parkway   
edsver4@ed4000-2.lerc.nasa.gov             Brook Park, OH  44142    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: pato@apollo.HP.COM (Joe Pato)
Subject: Re: Help ! Rgyd died every 3 days
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:43:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.214650.27210@mr.med.ge.com>, maint@positron.uucp (Maintenance Account) writes:
|> Rgyd's occasional untimely death with the "checkpoint ...
|> distinguished task ... unable to rename ...." error
|> is a Known Bug which is supposed to be fixed Real Soon Now.
|> 
|> Or to be more specific: It's been discussed here before.
|> HPollo has acknowledged it--at least informally. I haven't 
|> heard anything since.
|> 

This has been fixed in sr10.4 and is available in a patch release for
sr10.3.  The problem was due to improper use of the global variable
errno in a multi-threaded tasking environment.  Versions of rgyd
prior to this patch actually operated correctly, but got bad errno
values due to the tasking problem and shut themselves down in response.

-- 
                    -- Joe Pato
                       Cooperative Object Computing Division / East
                       Hewlett-Packard Company
                       pato@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: turner@ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com (Robert Turner)
Subject: Music making software, play.c
Reply-To: turner@ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com (Robert Turner)
Organization: Semiconductor Systems Design Technology, Motorola, Tempe AZ
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:32:51 GMT
Originator: usenet@nddsun1

I was digging around in some old sources and found a program called
play.c.  The program is supposed to play "music" on a 425.  It was
so long ago this may even be a SR9.7 program, but I think I got it
after migrating to SR10+.


The source will not compile, and even if it did play.c calls for a
device "/dev/rhil".  We don't seem to have "rhil". Our manuals,  a
seemingly small subset of the total manual set, yeilds no information
relating to sound, music, device rhil, EFTSBP, or ioctl (beyond man
and sys/ioctl).  

I lost the email message from the person who sent me this, and no names
can be found.  

Anybody know anything?  I'm willing to send the source and the sample
data files to anyone interested in trying to get it to work.

Sample Compile 
-------------------------------------------------------------
   $ /bin/cc -o play play.c -lm
   
    (0216)        ioctl(r8042, EFTSBP, &voice);
   
   ******** Line 216 of "play.c": [Error #023]  "EFTSBP" has not been declared.
-------------------------------------------------------------


The following is from the README file:
-------------------------------------------------------------
   To play something, type:
   
   play < playfile  (e.g. play < chop.fant)
   
   
   The "playfile" has the basic format of (starting from the first line):
   
   <key sig>
   <quarter notes per minute>
   <line of music for voice 1>
   <line of music for voice 2 or blank line>
   <line of music for voice 3 or blank line>
   .
   .
   .
   
   The key signature is in the form "n#" or "nb" where n goes from 0 to 7.
   # of course means "sharp", b means "flat".
   
   Quarter note beats per minute is just that; it's in the form  n, where 
   n is almost any reasonable number.  Note that 10 milliseconds is the
   smallest duration available.
   
   Music lines come in groups of three (3 voices).  A blank line indicates
   termination of that group, the other voices are not played.  If all
   3 voices are played in a group, DO NOT leave a blank line (bug).
   
   A music line is of the form:  | measure | measure | measure | ...
   (blanks must be present around the |).
   
   A measure is just: note note note ...  (blanks must surround notes)
...
-------------------------------------------------------------


Robert

-- 
Robert Turner (602) 897-5441 Semiconductor Systems Design Technology, Motorola
turner@ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com   OR   ...!uunet!dover!turner
"Pictures?  I have oceans of the mountains."  -- Aunt Betty
From: bmich@cs.utexas.edu (Brian Keith Michalk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: DN 550-1
Date: 9 Apr 1992 23:40:56 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu

I came across an (what I assume to be very old) Apollo DN 550-1.  I 
managed to find one 68010 in there.  Is this all there is?  What can
this machine be used for?  How fast is it?  etc.

Would be interesting to have a Unix machine though, but I don't think this
one will be feasable.

I know this is a newbie type question, so no flames please.  Any help on
the 550 would be greatly appreciated.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: terryl@world.std.com (Terry Longo)
Subject: 'emt' and '/dev/sio' equivalents on HP UX?
Organization: NET RESULT, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:15:59 GMT

I'm getting my first exposure to HP UX (710) after many many many years
on Domain/OS, so please pardon the apparent simplicity of this question ;-)

I need to do some serial line work on the HP UX, and I'm wondering if there
are 'objects' on HP UX that are analogous to Domain/OS's 'emt' command and
'/dev/sio' device.  Any hints?

More specifically, I want to (i) connect to the Internet through a modem
on the HP UX, and also (ii) transfer files between the Domain/OS and HP UX
systems via serial line.

Thanks for the pointers!  Please email me directly.

(Believe me, I _would_ RTFM, except that I don't have any FM's!)
From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM (John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: How do you change swap space on a 400t?
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:08:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: pan.9204061908.AA02289
Organization: The Internet


> Hi, how do you change where swap space is on an 400t running DOMAIN/OS 10.3.5?
> 
> I have two I need to do it on. One has two 200MB RODIME's striped together
> and an external 1.2GB FUJITSU. Currently swap is located on the RODIME
> and I would like to put it on the FUJITSU. The other one has one 200MB RODIME
> and I'm thinking of adding one 100MB drive, where I will put swap.

1) You can't change where swap is located.  You can ADD to the main swap area,
   but you'll still swap to the '/' volume.
2) Your programs automatically page to the file image on disk.  A program can 
   also specify paging to a data file located ANYWHERE on the Domain/OS system,
   although I think most programs don't.
3) To _add_ a swap area, check the '/etc/swap' command.  I think you want to
   NOT do this to a volume that has a file system, since the cautions appear
   to indicate that the O/S just starts using it, regardless of files.  Since
   all our disks have data on them, I decided not to play around with it....

 
> One other question since I'm here. How do you change the process limit
> on a 400t running DOMAIN/OS 10.3.5? I think I've seen this written
> somewhere before but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

You don't.  Domain/OS does not have a user-configurable kernel.  You have up
to 1024 processes, depending on RAM in the box.  You get 32 processes/MB,
up to 1024.


-- jt --
John Thompson
Design Services Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com

Speak softly and carry a big .disclaimer
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apollo:2235 comp.windows.x:9905
From: jon@regent.csd.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X-based project mgmt and spreadsheet tools?
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:01:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apollo

mse@ttsi.lonestar.org (Mark Evans) writes:

>I am in the market for a free or commercial project management tool
>and spreadsheet tool that will run in an Apollo X-Window environment.
>Recommendations will be greatly appreciated.

Motif-based AutoPLAN from Digital Tools, Inc.

I believe Computer Assoicates is planning on introducing the Motif-based
version of SuperProject.

Regards,
From: alanc@OCF.BERKELEY.EDU (Alan Coopersmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: arp
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:22:31 GMT
Reply-To: staff@ocf.Berkeley.EDU


We were having problems with our machines not being able to resolve names of
machines on the token ring when the ethernet connection to the name-server
went down...so I decided to try hardcoding the names into arp...is this
doing anything bad?   We are running 3500/4500's with Domain O/S 10.3.5

The files are below...  ( //avalanche is 1fc03 on our token-ring)

-----/etc/rc.local-----
#
#   Establish IP-to-MAC address mappings for remote hosts
#   that do not implement ARP (address resolution protocol).
#
if [ -f /etc/arp -a -f /etc/arp.conf ]; then
#       /etc/arp -s <ip address> <ethernet address>
        /etc/arp -f /etc/arp.conf
fi


-----/etc/arp.conf-----
avalanche.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:fc:0e:00:00
bigbang.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:24:5b:00:00
cyclone.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:01:36:00:00
earthquake.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:fb:ca:00:00
hailstorm.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:ff:22:00:00
headcrash.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:ed:17:00:00
lightning.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:01:42:00:00
locusts.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:00:ef:00:00
monsoon.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:ff:33:00:00
plague.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:fe:97:00:00
planecrash.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:fa:76:00:00
sandstorm.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:f8:b5:00:00
tempest.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:02:1d:00:00
tornado.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:fe:92:00:00
tsunami.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:00:e7:00:00
typhoon.Berkeley.EDU	00:01:f2:91:00:00
whirlwind.Berkeley.EDU	00:02:01:32:00:00


	-Alan Coopersmith
	alanc@ocf.Berkeley.edu
	alanc@UCBOCF.BITNET

	OCF Staff Member 
	staff@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: girod@tele.nokia.fi (Marc Girod)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: xinit, Xdomain, DISPLAY=unix:0.0
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:07:16 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: kpd

Where does this DISPLAY=unix:0.0 come from?

I start Xdomain from my .profile with the following command:

xdmc "cp -n x11start /bin/ksh -c '/usr/bin/X11/xinit -- /etc/Xdomain bc' ;icon x11start;wc x11start -a"

Before this, I have carefully defined my DISPLAY like this:

export DISPLAY=$(/etc/hostid):0.0

I have then a very simple .xinitrc file:

------------------------------------------------------------

#!/bin/sh
xrdb -load ~/.Xresources
mwm

------------------------------------------------------------

I start most of my applications through mwm menus.

What annoys me is that the DISPLAY they get is DISPLAY=unix:0.0
Where do they get it from?

I tried to echo $DISPLAY in .xinitrc, and checked that it is already
unix:0.0 there. I tried then to force it to the value of my choice,
both by specifying it explicitely on the xinit command line with:

	-display $DISPLAY

and by setting it again within .xinitrc, but then Xdomain just fails
to reply to mwm, which exits after a score of retries!

Any enlightments?

My environment:

HP/Apollo DN 2500
Domain/OS kernel(9), revision 10.3.5.1, September 6, 1991  1:43:54 pm

Thanks a lot!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: SYSV IPC problems on Domain-OS
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 16:14:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.103756.45467@qut.edu.au>, lunnon@qut.edu.au writes:

  	I am currently trying to port a programs which uses SYSV
  semaphores, ie semget semctl and semop. semget works ok but semctl
  aborts with
  
  EACESS = permission denied
  (OS/level 2 process manager) error: wait found no children

The SysV ipc stuff is strictly clib based, so the Aegis status code is
irrelevant here.  It apparently thinks you don't have the proper rights to
the semaphore.

  I have mbx_helper and ns_helper running, is there another server to
  run to get this stuff to work or is this another rewrite in the making :-(

No.  It doesn't depend on any servers, including the two you mentioned.

  seems to me somethig dont quite work with SYS V IPC

Maybe you could contract with some company located near the Nashua airport
to fix it for you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: unifying UID's for NFS 
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:12:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.155301.6468@email.tuwien.ac.at> root@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at writes:
>1) Is it possible to unify all GID's and UID's.
>   There are reserved UID's and GID's on all 3 types of machines (Apollo,DEC and SUN)
>
>   GID     apollo         sun         dec         HP-UX
>
>   0       wheel          wheel       system      root
>   2       prakti         kmem        uucp        bin
>   3       bin            bin         rsrv3       sys
>   4       local          tty         bin         adm
>   5       tty            operator    tty         daemon
>   6       mail           news        kmem        mail

I have added HP-UX to the above list :-(. I consider the UID problem
as more serious than the GID mess, though GIDs are important for
some subsystems.
This issue was raised at the recent Interworks SysAdmin conference,
and is a royal pain for users; I think HP got that impression, and
they said they will look into it. As a rule, this is only a real
problem when you want to mess with remote files over NFS, which is
something I try to avoid doing when dealing with "system" files that
are not owned by root. Note that the original permissions are retained
on existing files, but new ones will be created incorrectly.
I have never tried to "unify" the UID/GIDs - the major problem with
this is doing it automatically, correctly and completely, then
you will have to re-do it after every OS upgrade.
-- 
What are the chances that any computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Another depressing libXt bug
Keywords: X11/R4 UEDK libXt
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:36:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.170538.5806@ttsi.lonestar.org>, mse@ttsi.lonestar.org (Mark Evans) writes:

  For those interested, here is another libXt bug exposed by xfig
  V2.1.3:

This works fine with my x11r4lib, available by ftp from archive.umich.edu.

I still suspect these bugs are due to some bad interaction between the r3
and r4 libraries.  The r4 libraries have to be compiled with -nosys (or
equivalent) to keep them from trying to use data structures in the r3 global
libs.  If you don't do this, everything almost works, but you sometimes find
a client that won't work.  I ran in this mode for weeks, and my xterm and
other clients never complained until I tried to run twm.
From: mse@ttsi.lonestar.org (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.windows.x
Subject: X-based project mgmt and spreadsheet tools?
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:25:38 GMT
Organization: st


I am in the market for a free or commercial project management tool
and spreadsheet tool that will run in an Apollo X-Window environment.
Recommendations will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
-- 
Mark S. Evans                 Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.
Phone: 214-516-6201           1255 W 15th St.
Fax:   214-516-6805           Plano, TX 75075
Mail:  mse@ttsi.lonestar.org
From: j.g.owen@birmingham.ac.uk (Dr John Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Displaying Image Files
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:28:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

One of my users is looking for software that will display (a) Sun Raster,
(b) Postscript and (c) TIFF files directly on DN3000/3500 and 400s? Anyone
know of cheap/free packages? (Expensive ones considered if absolutely no
alternative!)

Thanks in advance

John Owen
From: chen@digital.sps.mot.com (Jinfu Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Source to Apollo Domain O/S 10.4 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:40:35 GMT
Organization: Motorola, LICD, SPS, Mesa, AZ

In article <9204011700.AA37640@apollo.hp.com> root@APOLLO.HP.COM (Apollo Domain O/S Team) writes:
  As Release 10.4 is the last supported major release of Domain O/S, HP
  has decided to put the source code up for anonymous FTP from apollo.hp.com.
  
  The source will be transferred to the InterWorks library soon...

Is this an April Fool's joke?
From: mse@ttsi.lonestar.org (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Another depressing libXt bug
Keywords: X11/R4 UEDK libXt
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:05:38 GMT
Organization: st

For those interested, here is another libXt bug exposed by xfig
V2.1.3:

A call to XtParseTranslationTable, a routine provided by
libXt from X11/R4 UEDK, crashes with the following traceback:


Process        4790 (parent 2330, group 4790)
Time           92/04/08.08:20(CST)
Program        /usr/local/bin/xfig
Status         00040004: reference to illegal address (OS/MST manager)
In routine     "_XtAddEventSeqToStateTree" line 1810
Called from    "ParseTranslationTableProduction" line 2160
Called from    "ParseTranslationTable" line 2355
Called from    "XtParseTranslationTable" line 2401
Called from    "popup_file_panel" line 179
Called from    "sel_cmd_but" line 190
Called from    "DispatchEvent" line 683
Called from    "DecideToDispatch" line 1106
Called from    "XtDispatchEvent" line 1147
Called from    "XtAppMainLoop" line 1325
Called from    "main" line 459
Called from    "unix_$main" line 114
Called from    "_start" line 132
Called from    "PM_$CALL" line 176
Called from    "pgm_$load_run" line 903
Called from    "pgm_$invoke_uid_pn" line 1124

Proc2 Uid       580A8F27.B002F14C
Parent Process  2330 (58071660.E002F14C)
Process Group   4790 (580A8F27.B002F14C)
Fault Status    00040004: reference to illegal address (OS/MST manager)
Access Addr     0000000C
IR              0000
Acc. Info       0501
User Fault PC   000B8174
D0-D3:          00000000 00000000 9EBC0003 00000000
D4-D7:          7537E4B2 0019B200 7537DCD8 00000004
A0-A3:          7537E4B2 00000000 0019B200 7537E4B2
A4-A7:          0010C626 001354B0 7537D96C 7537D938
Supervisor ECB  00000000
Supervisor SR   0000
Supervisor PC   00000000


This can be reproduced by the following simple program:


-------------------------- foo.c ----------------------------

#include <X11/Intrinsic.h>
Widget		tool;
static XrmOptionDescRec options[] =
{
    {"-keyFile", ".keyFile", XrmoptionSepArg, 0},
};

XtAppContext tool_app;

main (argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
    XtTranslations actions;

    tool = XtAppInitialize(&tool_app, (String) "Fig", (XrmOptionDescList) options,
			   (Cardinal) XtNumber(options),
			   (Cardinal *) & argc, (String *) argv,
			   (String *) NULL, (String *) NULL, (Cardinal) 0);


    actions = XtParseTranslationTable ("<Btn1Up>:");
}

----------------------------- end of foo.c -------------------------------- 

Compile and run:

cc -c foo.c
cc -o foo foo.o -lXt
./foo  # gets memory fault

  
Now, if you change the call to XtParseTranslationTable to:
    actions = XtParseTranslationTable ("<Btn1Up>: Blob()");

the call succeeds.

-- 
Mark S. Evans                 Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.
Phone: 214-516-6201           1255 W 15th St.
Fax:   214-516-6805           Plano, TX 75075
Mail:  mse@ttsi.lonestar.org