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From: dbeeman@dogstar.Colorado.edu (Dave Beeman)
Subject: emTeX and long font names
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:12:31 GMT

I am using emTeX (the 1990 3.0 version from ymir.claremont.edu) and tried
using MS-DOS dvips 5.49 on the file emtex.dvi.  It needed the font lcircle10,
and METAFONT complained that it couldn't find the lcircle10.mf file.

The problem, of course, is that "lcircle10" is more than 8 characters.  My
"mfinputs" directory has the truncated name "lcircle1.mf".  Has anyone
sucessfully dealt with this situation?

Thanks for any suggestions,
Dave Beeman - dbeeman@dogstar.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rolfl@ulrik.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren)
Subject: Re: Which is better, OzTeX or Textures?
Organization: Det samfunnsvitenskapelige fakultet, Universitetet i Oslo, Norge
	<MOREAUX.93Jan26105025@litsun22.epfl.ch>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:32:00 GMT

 In article <MOREAUX.93Jan26105025@litsun22.epfl.ch> moreaux@litsun22.epfl.ch (Michel Moreaux) writes:
>
>   OzTeX has a multi-language extension called Euro-OzTex allowing hyphenation of
>   most "non-english" languages. For instance, Euro-OzTeX allows to write in 
>   Greek, French, German and even Russian. Maybe that sounds useless for you, but
>   for me, European people speaking different languages, it is very important.
>   I think it is very sad that the basic "TeX" has be developped only thinking of
>   english. Really poor design (please no flame) ! Our Unix version of LaTeX
>   required some patches in order to allow hyphenation of words containing 
>   characters encoded on 8 bits. I do not know if TeXture allows hyphenation of
>   "non-english" languages.
>

Yes, but this is not a feature of OzTeX, but of TeX the program. Anybody
can build multilingual versions of LaTeX for Textures given the right
hyphenation tables.

There is no need for patches to understand 8-bit hyphenation table for
foreign languages, this functionality came with TeX 3.0.

TeX is TeX. With TeX 3.0, this became even more so. :-)


--
       Rolf Lindgren           |       "The opinions expressed above are
       616 Bjerke Studentheim  |        not necessarily those of anyone"
       N-0589 OSLO 5           |           rolf.lindgren@usit.uio.no 
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: help with dvidvi
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:18:05 GMT

scavo@cie.uoregon.edu (Tom Scavo) writes:

>How do I get dvidvi to format a document two pages per side
>of 8.5 x 11" paper in landscape?  (I think this is called 
>"two up" but I'm not sure...)

>Looking at Gary Levin's twoup.sty, it appears that 

>  dvidvi '2:0(-0.35in,-0.25in),1(4.65in,-0.25in)' old.dvi new.dvi

>should work, but it doesn't, at least not with Timothy Murphy's 
>recent (and appreciated!) port of dvidvi to the Macintosh.


Thanks for the kind words!

I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do,
but I think you must have a "-m" switch anyway.
The heading of dvidvi.c
(FTP-ed from labrea.stanford.edu directory pub
13 January 1993),
which I ported to the Mac (with essentially no changes), 
reads:

 *   This program converts dvi files to dvi files;
 *   the command line options are:
 *
 *      page n is first page selected         -f n
 *      page n is last page selected          -l n
 *      print at most n pages                 -n n
 *      include pages (ranges allowed)        -i { n1..n2 | n1 }[,...]
 *      exclude pages (ranges allowed)        -x { n1..n2 | n1 }[,...]
 *      work in quiet mode                    -q
 *      reverse pages                         -r
 *      select even                           -m 2:1
 *      select odd                            -m 2:0
 *      print both on same page               -m 2:0,1(5.5in,0in)
 *      do folded brochures                   -m 4:-3,0(5.5in,0in)
 *                                            -m 4:1,-2(5.5in,0in)
 *      etc.

Not sure what that "etc" comprises!

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: "Arthur Ogawa" <ogawa@orion.arc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re:  font binary files
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 11:18:21 PST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

JLINCOLN@acc.rwu.edu queries:

        Where may I get the font binary files (PFB) for the original
PostScript fonts?

The PostScript fonts you are probably referring to are Times-Roman,
Helvetica, etc. If so, the answer is that these fonts are proprietary
and can be purchased from Adobe Systems. Depending on your platform,
you may buy them for about $50 bundled with ATM (Mac and MSWin).
Computers with DPS (Display PostScript) will already have these fonts.
Let me know if you require further information.

Art
From: rcb5@wswiop14.win.tue.nl (Richard Verhoeven)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Labels in tabbing environment
Keywords: labels tabbing
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:17:15 GMT
Reply-To: rcb5@win.tue.nl

Hello,

I'm trying to add labels in my own version of the tabbing environment.
This version works the same as the original tabbing environment and it
is made for a formula-editing program. The labels must be used like in the
equation environment. For example:

(0)            a = b
          =        {  ...  }
(1)            b = a

should be possible. Personally I think something like

\newsavebox{\labelbox}
\newif\if@labelset
\def\mylabel#1{\refstepcounter{equation}\label{#1} %
	\savebox{\labelbox}{(\ref{#})}\global\@labelsettrue}

would work, in combination with some adjustments in the newline command
of the tabbing environment.

Is this a good way to add labels or if someone knows a better way to add
them, please respond.


Richard  (rcb5@win.tue.nl)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Which is better, OzTeX or Textures?
Organization: Quixote Digital Typography
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:14:46 PST

In article <1k0ueqINNnbv@tamsun.tamu.edu>, mclean@math.tamu.edu (Robert Mclean) writes:
> One advantage of OzTeX is that it is "standard" TeX, meaning if one wants
> to grab fonts from the local main frame, one can. Also, one can configure
> it much more extensively. 

Textures too  is standard TeX. Bitmap fonts can be imported using
a program available for free from Blue Sky (why it's just not
included, I don't know--actually, it may be there on newer
releases on the last disk... perhaps someone from Portland can
shed some light on that). Importing/exporting DVI files is very
simple.

Not sure what you mean about being able to configure OzTeX more
extensively thhan Textures... there's not much that I know of
that you can't configure with Textures (although default-setting
is a recent option added about a year ago or so... Create a file
Defaults in your TeX Formats folder to  set defaults.)

-dh
Don Hosek                  
dhosek@ymir.claremont.edu  
Quixote Digital Typography 
714-621-1291
From: mmalak@cco.caltech.edu (Michael Jay Malak)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Cents symbol
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:25:32 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: yvonne.caltech.edu

jwarner@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack E. Warner) writes:

>Tod McQuillin <tm8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Is there a way to typeset the symbol for cents in [La]TeX?  It's the
>>symbol that looks like a 'c' and a '/' on top of each other.  I've
>>been using (LaTeX)

>>\newcommand{\cent}{\,\makebox[0in]{c}\makebox[0in]{/}\,}

>>but this is too ugly for words.  What obvious solution am I missing?

>look in appendix f of the TeXbook and
>\newcommand{\cent}{\char'???} 
>  where ??? is the octal number of the cent sign.

There is only one problem with this plan:
There is no such character in any of the standard fonts.

The TeXbook suggests \def\cents{\hbox{\rm\rlap/c}} .

-- 
Michael Malak                      |  1. All syllogisms have three parts.
mmalak@looking_glass.caltech.edu   |  2. Therefore, this is not a syllogism.
From: amr@chiton.ucsd.edu (Tony Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: What is tpic?
Keywords: tpic, graphics, eepic, PiCTeX
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:14:30 GMT
Organization: MPL of SIO at UCSD

This is probably a FAQ, but I couldn't find it in the tex-faq.

What are the tpic specials and where are they documented?  Are they supported
by most dvi translators/previewers (dvips and xdvi in particular)?  What are
the advantages/disadvantages to using macro packages like eepic (and/or
PiCTeX with the tpic extensions) versus direct inclusion of PostScript via
dvips (assuming that I have a drawing program/graphics package that can generate
either eepic macros or PostScript)?

Thanks in advance,
Tony Richardson
From: hyang@pion.rutgers.edu (Hua Yang x2538)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Variable-sized \int ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:10:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hope this is not a FAQ. Is there a way to make the \int symbol variable in 
size? I want something similar to \left( or \right) which can change size 
vertically according to the formula behind (or before) it. 

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: spiff@math.wayne.edu (Jason Leigh)
Subject: Pictures in LaTeX in the 90's
Keywords: Pictures
Organization: Wayne State University Math Department, Detroit
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:54:54 GMT


Hi,
	I haven't used LaTeX in a while now and I was wondering,
what is the latest on getting diagrams into LaTeX?  I remember using
figs before and converting them using fig2latex.  Is fig2latex still
around ftp-able from somewhere?  Is including postscript files inside
LaTeX documents now more reliable?  

Any info would b e greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Jason Leigh



Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: kostas@pluto.ral.rpi.edu (Kostas Kyriakopoulos)
Subject: GHOSTSCRIPT for PC's ????
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:03:46 GMT

I bet that this is a very frequenlty asked question in this newsgroup
and I ask for your understanding.

Is there any tool like "GHOSTSCRIPT" available for PC's ? and ...
how can I have access to that ?

I don't care if it is on the NET or a commercial product.

I would appreciate your answers either personal or in the newsgroup.

	Kostas J. Kyriakopoulos
	kostas@cat.rpi.edu
From: dulimart@pixel.cps.msu.edu (Hansye S. Dulimarta)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Also: LaTeX, twocolumn, wide tables
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:31:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: pixel.cps.msu.edu

In article <2404@blue.cis.pitt.edu> field@.cs.pitt.edu.cs.pitt.edu (Brian Field) writes:
>
>
>I have a paper I am trying to typeset in twocolumn mode using the twocolumn
>style.  In the paper, I have several tables which are too wide to fit in a
>single column while in twocolum mode.  However, LaTeX attempts to squeeze them
>in (with poor results).
>
>Is there a simple solution to getting wide tables formatted properly in a
>twocolum paper.  Ideally, I would like the tables to be formatted in onecolumn
>mode, but text in twocolumn mode.  I tried to manually switch between the two,
>but then I had to mess with moving text around, inserting page/line breaks,
>etc.  Is there a simpler solution? 
>
>
>Thanks
>Brian
>-----
>field@cs.pitt.edu

I'm also interested in knowing how to do this. So please, respond to the
newsgroup. 

Thanx, Hans.
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From: MASCHLER%HUJIVMS.BITNET@SHSU.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re:  the virtual font craze
Date: Tue,  26 Jan 93 18:06 +0200
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

>>
>> Wolfgang Ratzka writes:
>>
>> >I'm  not  so   sure wether Christoph   Kukulies' longing for    good
>> >collection of  virtual fonts' is not  based on a misunderstanding.  As
>> >much as I understand  (please correct me), virtual  fonts are mainly a
>> >means to
>> >
>> >- utilize internal fonts of an output device (e. g. PostScript)
>> >
>> >- rearrange the encoding of a font and do fancy things with accented
>> >  characters.
>> >
>>
>> I agree with your suggestion to shed some light on the usefulness
>> of virtual fonts and what actually can be done with them.
>>
>> --Chris
>>
> While we're asking for the shedding of light: I for one, would like to see
> (or have its location named if it already exits) a tutorial on font handling
> generally within TeX.  Topics could include the role of MetaFont, purpose
> and installation of NFSS, and so on.  The problem is that attacking
> these topics without any tutorial intro is a little intimidating.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         "Tundra" Tim Daneliuk
>         PREFERRED: tundra@eskimo.chi.il.us
>         OR (Yuk!): eskimo!tundra@clout.chi.il.us
>         ALSO:      ...uunet!gargoyle.uchicago.edu!clout!eskimo!tundra
>         US SNAIL:  4927 N. Rockwell, Chicago, IL  60625
>         MA BELL:   (312) 989-1052
>
I could not agree more with you. I just had a rezl fight with a friend
who is preparing via LaTeX a book composed of several papers with math
content. Since LaTeX does not contain several symbols such as
\subsetneq, I offered to send him these fonts. He refused adamantly,
even though even I know that this was not a difficult enterprise.
From what he knew about TeX fonts he was convinced that this task will
take him ages. [Eventually he did it, because others pressed him too
and it took him only one hour.]

I am in a similar situation when I consider trying virtual fonts.
I read in the previous message a lot about what they do for you,
but nothing clear about how you install them and how to write a TeX
file that makes use of them. How do you map from character codes to
character glyphs? What are you supposed to do with accented fonts?
Thus, at present I refrain from doing anything knowing well that
I will have to spend a lot of time digging into the literature
of my laser printer and the literature on dvips, and TeX until I become
smart enough to install virtual fonts.

Indeed, if there were such a tutorial I am sure that a lot of
people would benefit.

Michael


Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: Building your own format file on Unix?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:10:53 GMT

eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:

>and \dump at the final '*' or put \dump in your file.
>Then type
>	virtex \&formt infil
>where infil.tex is your input.

On any Unix implementation which I have seen so far instead of
this calisthenics you do instead 'ln virtex formt' and call it via
'formt infil'.  If you do not like name 'formt' you do then
'ln formt.fmt my_brand_new_name.fmt' and 'ln virtex my_brand_new_name'
(of course in corresponding directories) and you then call it
'my_brand_new_name infil'.  That is the reason for a 'virtex'
grand-daddy name.  BTW - (hard) links do not take an extra disk space
even if each will list with a full size of an original file.
Oh, do not forget 'rehash' once you introduced new program names.
You computer may otherwise have problems finding them the first time
around.

This mechanism has one side effect which already tripped a few
TeXers.  Assume that you have latex.fmt linked to lplain.fmt and
you just re-made a brand new lplain.fmt with NFSS, say, replacing
an old lplain.fmt in the process.  You type 'latex test' and no
NFSS is in sight.  The problem is that in this moment you have
two separate files - latex.fmt (old) and lplain.fmt (new) and you
are really using an old latex.fmt.  To complete an installation
process you have to remove latex.fmt and re-create link of
lplain.fmt to latex.fmt once again.  You may opt for symbolic
links which do not suffer from that problem but have some other
disadvantages.

  Just to make your life simpler.

    Michal Jaegermann
    ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
    ntomczak@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Introductory LaTeX notes: covering post
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:18:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
Keywords: latex, notes
Cc: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz

In <gmaltby.117.728117417@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za> gmaltby@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za (Gavin Maltby) writes:

>Some time back I promised to post some notes from an introductory LaTeX
>course I gave.  I intended some spit and polish before posting them, but
>have only had time for a little correction here and there.  I can make
>no claims as to the accuracy and suitability, but can only hope that some
>people out there find them useful.  Readers of this group who are unsure
>what all the TeX-fuss is about could benefit from them.

>Feel free to use and criticise the notes as you please.

There's a missing percent that makes the environment "mathegs" not work. It
should be

> \newenvironment{mathegs}%
> {\medskip\footnotesize\begin{center}%
> \renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.3}
> \begin{tabular}{ll}%
> \it \makebox[190pt][l]{Type} & \it To produce\\}% Note extra percent!
> {\end{tabular}\end{center}\medskip}

Thanks for your effort, Gavin!

Jeremy

---
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   Department of Computer Science,              fax: +64 9 373 7453
   University of Auckland, Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand.

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: wilde@bernina.ethz.ch (Erik Wilde)
Subject: Re: HELP : why is TeX better ?
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:08:24 GMT

In my opinion, the most important feature of LaTeX is the possibility
of specifying the logical structure of a document instead of the
layout. The layout is automatically derived from the logical structure
and layout rules, and that's the way things should work. Unfortunately,
many people are impressed by pseudo-wysiwyg-interfaces which enable
them to play around with the layout. I think that layout is disturbing
when you only care about content, and I was happily using a LaTeX-based
SGML-System for years. Now I have a Mac on my desk and all the people
around me are using word, but I looked at it for a few days and now
I'm even more convinced that any document processing program that does
not separate logical and layout structures is badly designed.
And, if people are not seeing that only logical structure matters if
you write documents (that does not count for fancy looking papers, but
I'm speaking about writing documents, not playing around with fonts
and spacing), you can still say that TeX is the most powerful formatting
engine you can use. Look at the way TeX breaks paragraphs into lines
(ever seen a nicer and more flexible model for doing that?) and then
look at the crap that often comes out of word! The word programmers
couldn't even resist inserting spaces between letters of one word when
the line is very loose. That's not only ugly, it's against every rule
of typography. The word fonts are incredible, and besides that, word
should be awarded a price for the most fucked up user interface (at
least for word 5.0 on the mac). Not only can you delete every menu
item, you can also move them around to whereever you want them, the
effect is that you can only use your own word, every other copy of it
is simply unusable.
Well, I could go on for hundreds of lines, it's a shame that most
people only look on how fancy it looks on the screen, not on what it is
made for and how it does its job.
The moral is: If someone is really looking for high quality output
and is not a mouse-addict, LaTeX (or, if you want a nicer interface
to it, the publisher) is the product of choice. Word and similar
products are nice to demonstrate (if they don't crash, what word is
doing routinely to me), but they fail if you want to use them for
writing documents.
I hope this helps,

Erik Wilde (wilde@tik.ethz.ch)
  Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH Zuerich)
  Laboratory of Computer Engineering and Networks (TIK)
  ETH-Zentrum, ETZ G61.2, CH - 8092 Zuerich
  Phone: +41-1-254-7009  Fax: +41-1-254-7160
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.text
From: tony2@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (gozdz,antoni s)
Subject: Re: Looking For A Spell Checker + Suggester
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 01:09:06 GMT

In article <ll8h47INNd2t@latexo.cs.utexas.edu> brazile@cs.utexas.edu (P. Jason Brazile) writes:
>
>"jspell" will do it on an IBM PC running MSDOS. It comes with C source code
>although you can also just get the executable. It currently only works with
>English though. It is on math.utexas.edu in /pub/jspell
>
>Jason Brazile 					brazile@cs.utexas.edu

Are you sure it's there? I could not find the
pub/jspell directory. Here is a partial listing from
the pub directory:

math.utexas.edu (IP 128.96.41.1)
.
.
.
herman
isil
iw0cnb
jsw
jwu
ka9q_readme
.
.
.
Tony Gozdz
tony2@cc.bellcore.com
From: erikjan@icce.rug.nl (Erik-Jan Vens)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Metafont to scalable outline font formats
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:03:33 GMT
Reply-To: E.J.Vens@icce.rug.nl (Erik-Jan Vens)
Organization: The ICCE Experience
Calvin-And-Hobbes: Scientific Progress Goes **BOINK**

In <WALSH.93Jan26170650@ibis.cs.umass.edu> walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
writes:

>The mf2ps program translates Metafont outlines into Adobe Type1 fonts.  
>I don't have any personal experience with this translation, however.

The mf2ps program is written by Shimon Yanai and Daniel M. Berry and described
in TUGboat v11n4. In a previous post I mistakingly attributed it to John
Hobby, but he wrote METAPOST. Anyway, mf2ps does indeed rely on suntools and
it renders Type 3 output, which, as Bertold Horn wrote me, is quite lengthy.

EJee
-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: ritley@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Aesthetically-pleasing \baselineskip's
Reply-To: ritley@uiucmrl.bitnet ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:12:39 GMT


I am creating an \input file for myself, to
define various font sizes -- ninepoint,
tenpoint, etc.  (Not that this hasn't
already been done by many people before.)

I know that typographic artists devote
quite a lot of time to structuring fonts
for maximum aesthetic appeal.

What I would like to know is whether, given
a font size, there is an "optimal"
\baselineskip for "single space" and 
"double space" type.  I can obviously adjust
the values until I get something which is
aesthetically pleasing to _me_.  But is there
some sort of typographical standard?

Many thanks!
From: schittel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Christoph Schittel)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: deadcycles
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:34:16 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Geophysik, Uni-Koeln, FRG
Distribution: world
Reply-To: schittel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Christoph Schittel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: dagobert.geo.uni-koeln.de

Hello!

I would like to see the number of deadcycles used for each page.
How to change \output or \shipout or whatever?

Thanks in advance!


--- Christoph