From: rkushner@sycom.mi.org (Ronald Kushner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM does it again... 23 watt p.s. for A1200?!?
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:09:36 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
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In an article, barrett@iastate.edu (Marx N. Barrett) writes:

>In article <1993Jan9.004422.14282@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson
>Daniel A) writes:
>>I'm not enough of a power type to know if 23W is 'too' weak, but how MANY
>>add in cards CAN the 1200, as a console, TAKE?  Eh?  Then,
>>maybe a 23watt PS might not be so bad.  These montrous PSs 
>>are usually for towered machines expecting gobs of cards.
>

>   First, the A1200 and A600 power supplies should be a bit larger than the
>ones used with the A500 for the simple reason that the A1200 and A600 are
>designed to use an internal HD and the A500 wasn't.  Extta power is
>obviously
>needed to accomodate the HD.  Next, consider any extra power needed by the
>underside expansion port.  In the A1200 especially, cards in the underside
>expansion port will very likely use more power than cards in the underside
>port
>of the A500.  Finally, consider any extra power to accomodate PCMCIA
>peripherals, which are even less likely to have their own power supply than
>peripherals plugged into the A500's side expansion port.

Marx, first off get a life... Second, the A600/1200 use those itsy-bitsy 2.5" 
laptop hard drives. How much power do you think they consume? 15 watts like a 
hungry 340 meg maxtor? Not quite. As time goes on, things get more efficient 
and use less energy. I can bet you that an 1983 XT CDC 20 meg hard drive (5.25 
full height) used more power than my SCSI 340 meg Maxtor in my A3000 which 
uses more power than my IDE 80 meg Maxtor in my A1200. My A1200 doesn't even 
get warm, a sign that it doesn't use much power. I'm more worried about these 
cheap ass Compudyne modems I have here that run at 130 degrees catching fire 
than my A1200 burning out its power supply.


>   Put all this together, and a power supply for the A1200 and A600 should be
>able to deliver about twice the power of the one used with the A500. 
>Commodore
>might be able to get by with less, but using a power supply with twice the
>wattage would also silence the numerous people who criticized Commodore's
>A500 power supplies.

The problems with the A500 power supplies were due to quality control and not 
being undersized I believe.. There are hundreds of A500's out there running 
Trumpcards with 2 megs of extra ram and a power hungry Connor hard drive with 
no additional power supply.

Lets talk about something more important, lets say, like why does the A600's 
power supply have A300 power supply stamped on it, and the A1200 has A600 
power supply stamped on it?  It seems like a more important issue than who has 
more colors, who sells more, and why Commodore sucks...In other words Marx, 
I'm telling you that what you say is worthless and I'd rather see 
conversations going on about things like whats stamped on the case of the 
power supply than you talking about its size..

If we ignored you, I'm sure your turn to killing women for the thrill of 
seeing the reaction on the TV news.