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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 10:28:00 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: 9515 monitor
Distribution: na

>Is IBM going to make the 9515 with non-interlaced technology?  I heard a rumor
>that they were going to.  Any thoughts or insight.

The 9515 can display non-interlaced 640x480 and 1024x768 graphics at
75Hz.  (Which makes it a great match for the new XGA-2!)

According to "IBM Displays and Printers Reference":


              8515-021       9518           9515           9517
Size          14"            14"            14"            17" Trin Flat
Dot pitch     .28            .28            .28            .26
Viewing area  9.8x7.4        9.8x7.4        9.8x7.4        11.8x8.8

600x480       NI 60Hz        NI 75Hz        NI 75Hz        NI 75Hz
1024x768      I 43.5Hz       -              NI 75Hz        NI 72Hz
1360x1024     -              -              -              I 53Hz

Emission      VLMF           MPR-II         MPR-II        MPR-II
Other         -              ISO 9241-3     ISO 9241-3    ISO 9241-3
Warranty      1 year         3 year         3 year        3 year
Avail date    Sep 91         Sep 92         Sep 92        Nov 92

- Darius
I do not speak for IBM Corp.
--
Darius Vaskelis (IBM Marketing/Technical Support)
University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-WAE                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: XGA-2 questions...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:21:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.183213.175@zip.eecs.umich.edu> tobe7093@saturn.edu writes:
>
>I currently own the original xga card and have a few questions about the new  xga-2 card. 
>
>1)Does anyone know about price info on the new xga-2 card?
>
>2)Does IBM have a hardware upgrade program where I would trade-in
>   my old card for a new one at a discounted price.
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated.
>
>chris.


1) I beleive the NEP (education price) is about $270, which is one hell
of a bargan for a coprocessed VRAM 1mb busmaster graphics board with
its performance. BTW the old xga is going for about $170 (NEP)! IBM
is also promoting an ISA version of the xga-2 made by Radius. I have
no further info on it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe)
Subject: 1.2mb 5.25" Internal Drive for Mod 77
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 10:13:59 EDT
Organization: IFS Project, University of Michigan
Reply-To: jwh@citi.umich.edu

I just received a product list from the IBM Fax service
and I didn't see a listing for an internal 1.2mb 5.25"
diskette drive which will work in the new PS/2 Mod 77
machines.  Does anyone know if IBM has such a beast available
and if so, what its part number and price are?  IBM
does have a drive which will work in models 57, 90 and 95.
Perhaps this drive will work in a model 77 and the keepers
of the list didn't update the information to account for the
new machines?  


James W. Howe                  internet: jwh@citi.umich.edu
University of Michigan             uucp: uunet!mailrus!citi.umich.edu!jwh
Ann Arbor, MI   48103-4943
From: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: A mouse for the PS/2
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:27:40 GMT
Reply-To: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: dspascha@c00132-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


Hi.  My Microsoft mouse came with a little adapter that converts from a 9-pin
serial plug to a PS/2-compatible plug.  I don't know if you could get this
separately, though.

Tschuess,
David Paschal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: PS/2 upgrade & new PS/2 prices from IBM.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:53:26 GMT


I'm looking to upgrade an old Mod 80 16Mhz. I recently called  a company
called Sigma about an upgrade they offer. Its a small daughter board
that plugs into the 386 socket, replacing it with a 486DX-33 with 8k
cache. The education price is $925. They say you can expect a 2-3 times
speed-up (real world) 5X faster landmark.

The 486 upgrade sold by Sigma Data is built by a company called Hypertech.
Sigma Data's number is:  1-800-446-4525.

Anyone have any experience with this. Its a bit expensive for a daughter
board I think, but cheaper than junking the Mod 80.

Speaking of price. If you haven't seen the new IBM PS/2 NEP (education)
prices I think you will be impressed. Also the 3 year 7 day 24 hour, 4
hour response got my attention. This will save us a lot in our LAN
system. BTW you can get the price list by calling the IBM FAX back
service at 1-800-426-4329. Its document # 1051. Be patient its 25 pages!


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From: hgoh@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Han Lin Goh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: more memory for 2/50
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:04:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

I heard that since the PS2/50 cannot handle more than 1MB on the motherboard,
the only way to expand its memory is to buy an expansion card. LA Trade sells
a 2MB board for $190. Are there any cheaper alternatives?
From: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: 5.25" Drive on a PS2/70
Keywords: How to?  How much is typical.
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:26:04 GMT
Reply-To: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technologies, Mt. View, California.

I'm looking to install a 5.25" diskette drive on my newly acquired
PS2/70.  I've been told that there is no "internal" drive and that an
"external" one costs about $300.

Is this true?  Do external drives cost about $300.  Does anyone know of
a better deal?

Paul Collacchi
From: cs260178@ucs.usl.edu (Segura William C)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: 9515 monitor
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:21:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette

Is IBM going to make the 9515 with non-interlaced technology?  I heard a rumor that they were going to.  Any thoughts or insight.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: 9515 monitor
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:00:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oeoPU8e00WB2BBPuI_
Distribution: na
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware: 6-Oct-92 9515 monitor
by Segura William C@ucs.usl 
> Is IBM going to make the 9515 with non-interlaced technology?  I heard
a rumor t
> hat they were going to.  Any thoughts or insight.

Yes, both the 9515 and the 9517 are non-interlaced, to go along with
XGA-2 which will drive them in non-interlaced 1024x768 mode.

Steve


"When you wake up with me, I'll be your glass of water." -Crowded House
From: jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Jay Jeffrey Schuh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: WANTED: SoundBlaster MCV
Date: 27 Sep 1992 16:18:49 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu



I would like to add the SoundBlaster MicroChannel Version to
my system to enhance my Windows 3.1 environment.  If anyone
has one they are willing to part with, drop me a line.


Thanks...

Jay J. Schuh
University of Wisconsin--Milwaukee

jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: ESDI drives, where?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:33:02 GMT
Organization: Rb


	We're looking for a 150MB ESDI hardrive to replace a
malfunctioning ESDI drive on our PS/2 Model 80.  The problem
is that we can't find it anywhere.   We found some 340MB ESDI drives
but they cost over $1400 and the vendor said that he wasn't sure
whether it would work with the PS/2 Model 80.

	Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: alf@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Alex Cheung)
Subject: tape backup
Organization: /home/qbert/alf/.organization
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:45:46 GMT


Does anyone has any software to use the 6157 tape drive in DOS ?


Alex Cheung                                 alf@theory.tc.cornell.edu
--
Alex Cheung                                 alf@theory.tc.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: guenther@bosun1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Carsten Guenther)
Subject: Sound Blaster - PS/2 ???
Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:27:09 GMT

Hi,
I have a question.

Is it possible to use the Sound Blaster card within a PS/2???

I'm involved in a speech generation project and I  want to synthesize speech.
So I'm looking for an appropriate D/A-card. Our generation software will
run on a Sun but a D/A-card (or even a DSP) for the Sun will be too
expenisive. Therefore I will transmit the synthesis parameters over PC-NFS
to a PS/2. But now I fear some problems between PS/2 and Sound Blaster.

Does someone have any experience with that problem?

     Thanks,
             Carsten

e-mail: guenther@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 27 Sep 1992 21:31:27 CDT
From: Jeff Calusinski <U46706@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject:    PS/2 Stuff for Sale

I have the following items to sell:
        Simply Ram Memory Board (32 bit)
                with 6 Meg (i.e 3 2meg simms)          $500.00


        IBM 320 Meg SCSI Hard Drive
                12.5 ms access time
                3 1/2 inch drive.                      $800.00

        IBM 400 Meg SCSI Hard Drive
                11.5 ms access time
                3 1/2 inch drive                       $850.00

        16 Bit IBM SCSI Controller                     $200.00

The memory board will only work in model 70 & 80's
It was bought in May and has a 2 year warrenty.
All of the above product were bought in May
I have become increadibly poor and now need the money. All of the prices
are very fair considering what I paid for them.
Of cource BEST OFFERS will always be considered.
Any questions E-Mail me
Thanks Jeff
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From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Q: How much to fix an IBM 8513-001 ps/2 color monitor?
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:39:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject line says it all.

I've been given a broken IBM 8513-001 ps/2 color monitor.
When its turned on, the "on" LED goes on for a split second
and then the monitor shuts down.  I must wait a bit (until
something apparently cools down) util I can turn it on again
(and then the symptoms resume).

What would it cost to fix this?

Thanks in advance.

--tony
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Q: Whats a (working) IBM 8513-001 ps/2 color monitor worth?
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:41:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject line says it all.

I've been given a (non-working) IBM 8513-001 ps/2 color monitor.
I'm debating on what to do with it.  (fix it or trash it).
If I did get it fixed, what would it be worth?

Thanks in advance.

--tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: thatton@lunatix.uucp (Tom Hatton)
Subject: Re: Can I add internal tape to PS/2 model 90 with 2 floppies?
Organization: Lexington Public Access Unix. -KY- (606) 253-1481 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:20:13 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Richard Stanton (stanton@haas.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: I have a model 90 XP486 with a 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 floppy drives. I want to
: get a tape backup, and one of the cheaper methods seems to be the IBM
: internal unit, but only if it'll fit.
: 
: It's a relatively narrow desktop unit. At the top going across are the on/off
: switch, the 3 1/2 drive and the 5 /14 drive. Under the 5 1/4 drive is a little
: panel which looks like it comes off, and I'm wondering if I could put a
: tape driver there (plus, in addition, if the internal controller can handle
: a tape plus 2 floppies)
:

The Model 90 will support only 1/3 height drives (slim-line) and the standard
is to use the scsi tape drive ( I think), but I can't see why a "slip-in" drive "B" useage couldn't be accomplished. 

 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: A mouse for the PS/2
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:19:00 GMT

In <60909@mimsy.umd.edu> pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez) writes:


>In article <8484@orbit.cts.com>, kurt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kurt Sletterdahl) writes:
>|> I think Microsoft has a special "PS/2 Mouse" that includes an appropriate
>|> adaptor.
>|> 
>|> UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, uunet!rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!kurt
>|> ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!kurt@nosc.mil
>|> INET: kurt@pnet51.orb.mn.org

>Logitech has one also it is a three button one.  I have seen the serial version (
>the only difference is the connector) and it feels very nice.  It comes in right and left
>handed versions.

 I have one of these Logitech mices on our PS/2 Model 70 at work.  I don't mind
it.  But either it or the PS/2 has a problem.  With certain programs,
especially the MS-DOS DOSSHELL and FoxPro, the mouse will get all confused
and stop working.  DOSSHELL will usually last about a minute before I have
to go to keyboard.  FoxPro is intermittent.  I have no problems under
Windows.  But since I don't like DOSSHELL, it's not a big deal.  And exiting
FoxPro and restarting solves that problem.
 
 It must be something with the logitech driver.  It's just rather weird.
Although I still won't discount a problem with the PS/2 considering all of
the other problems this machine has caused us.

-- 
Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu
Iowa Cooperative Soil Survey Resource Unit
2142 Agronomy, Iowa State University  (515) 294-5429
From: woodard@acsu.buffalo.edu (Keith Woodard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: FOR SALE: PS/2 Memory
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:31:41 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci


I have a 2MB SIMM for sale, for use in any IBM Micro Challel personal computer.
$70, includes shipping.
Please respond to this account.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: PS/2 upgrade & new PS/2 prices from IBM.
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 15:03:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.175326.17752@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones) writes:
>
>I'm looking to upgrade an old Mod 80 16Mhz. I recently called  a company
>called Sigma about an upgrade they offer. Its a small daughter board
>that plugs into the 386 socket, replacing it with a 486DX-33 with 8k
>cache. The education price is $925. They say you can expect a 2-3 times
>speed-up (real world) 5X faster landmark.
>
>The 486 upgrade sold by Sigma Data is built by a company called Hypertech.
>Sigma Data's number is:  1-800-446-4525.
>
>Anyone have any experience with this. Its a bit expensive for a daughter
>board I think, but cheaper than junking the Mod 80.
>

I got excited last month when I first found out about Sigma.  But, as
is always the case, it seems, I began thinking about my entire system
(a P70) and wondered... do I want to upgrade the processor but retain
the old 8-bit VGA, slow hard disks, etc? 


-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

[.... old sig has been retired.  New sig isn't ready yet. ]
From: leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: P70 Upgrade Options
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:31:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.135105.124@nhqvax.hq.nasa.gov>, 131.182.28.38 (David Tondreau) writes:
|> I've seen this topic discussed here recently but I'm not sure what
|> the 'latest & greatest' is.  I have a P70 running @ 16MHz.  I'd like
|> to upgrade it to a portable unix box with a mondo hard disk (1 gig+).

Mine is 20MHz

|> The hard disk isn't a problem since there are plenty of options here
|> but unix @ 16MHz isn't too appealing.

What disk upgrades?  The silly IBM connector ESDI 120MB disk is the
largest disk I know of that will fit inside.  What have you found?
I have 120MB plus I'm using stacker and still need more space. 50MB
compiler packages really eat up a disk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: Me
Subject: Re: Procomm external drives on a 55sx
Reply-To: Me
Organization: Me
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 15:42:09 GMT

In article <9210011347.AA13330@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Michael A Kingzett <mkingzet@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>I'm a student tech at Ohio State and we have installed some procomm technology 
>external 5.25" High Density drives on some of our 55sx's.  They seem to work 
>fine for the most part, but every so often it asks for the reference disk to 
>boot up (almost as though the battery power is going/gone, but it is a new 
>battery).  My question is this:  The drives didn't come with software which can
>be installed with the reference disk.  Instead, they have drivers which are 
>loaded in the config.sys file.  Is it normal for this to happen??
>
>It wouldn't be such a problem, but these machines are in public labs and our 
>monitors (mostly dimwits) have trouble using the reference disk.  I'm sick of 
>running out there every time this happens.
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>Mike

did you run auto configure from the reference disk?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
From: cs260178@ucs.usl.edu (Segura William C)
Subject: Re: New PS/2's ?!?!
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:04:19 GMT

I saw an ad put out by Entree offering these systems.

PS/2 56
486SLC2  16kcache instead of an 8k cache.
8 mb of ram
100+ mb HD
OS/2 preinstalled
14" inch monitor (I think it is dealers preference)
32 bit XGA
IBM mouse
3 years on site service
2.88 floppy drive
$2495.00  with 200mb hd $2895.00



This sounds like a good deal with the exception of the hard drive.  I do not see the big difference in price between 100mb and the 200mb hard drive.  As far as I can tell there is not yet a similar deal for education.  The closest deals that I can see do not offer as much. C
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:1732 comp.sys.ibm.ps2:41
From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2
Subject: New PS/2 prices! (approx. education prices)
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:37:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MenCgqK00WB_96mkhg
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi again all....I've talked to people and got the following ESTIMATES of
the prices of the new PS/2's.  Note that these are rough estimates.  I
also have more detailed info. on hardware configrations. I'm only
listing the 486's here.

These numbers/letters are applicable for the 95xx-xxx models only.

First letter/number: 
    0 = standard
    1 = Ultimedia : 600 MB CD-ROM II, M-Audio Adapter, and one less
available             slot
    2 = Ultimedia + ActionMedia II Adapter and two less slots
 
Second letter/number: Processor
    B = 486SLC2 25/50 Mhz
    U = 486SX 33 Mhz
    N = 486DX2 33/66 Mhz

Third letter/number: Disk size
    6 = 104 MB SCSI
    A = 212 MB SCSI
    F = 400 MB SCSI

Available models and prices:

All machines have 2 DMA serial & 1 DMA parallel port.

9556: Model 56.  3 internal storage bays (1 available) 
                 3 16-bit MCA slots
                 XGA-2 on planar board

9557: Model 57.  4 internal storage bays (2 available) 
                 5 15-bit MCA slots
                 XGA-2 on planar board

9576: Model 76.  Same as 56, but XGA-2 & MCA slots are 32-bit.
                 One less available MCA slot (2 available) 

9577: Model 77.  Same as 57, but XGA-2 & MCA slots are 32-bit.
                 One less available MCA slot (4 available) 

9556-0B6 $1,700
9556-0BA $2,000
9557-0B6 $1,800
9557-0BA $2,100
9557-1BA $3,100
9552-2BA $4,200

9576-0U6 $2,000
9576-0UA $2,300
9577-0UA $2,500
9577-0UF $3,000
9577-1UA $3,500
9577-0NA $3,000
9577-0NF $3,500
9577-1NA $4,000

Hope this helps......

Steve


"Forgive me please for hurting so.  Don't go away heartbroken, no."
-Peter Murphy
From: oberland@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: NEED to know what this is worth *NOWNOWNOW*
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:35:49 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

QUICK!!!!!
I need to find oout how much this is worth(bdding on it ASAP/NOW)

PS/2 model 25
720K drive
*NO HD*
Ethernet card

Basically, a server used at a local business(which is going out of business)

Good shape, and passes all tests(not sure aboiut the net card, tho)

HOW MUCH IS THIS BEAST WORTH

Thanks,
Joe
P.S. I need to find out before 6PM tonite, if possible
From: ameyer@cbnews.cb.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: 630 Terminal Help
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:03:24 GMT
Reply-To: ahm@hoqas2.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ

In comp.sys.att, kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec) writes:
[re: 5620 mouse]

> You've got to be kidding.  One of the worst mice ever made.  It's
> like a softball 'fer 'cryin out loud!  Next time I go to a hamfest
> or computer show, I'm going to find a replacement.

Some of us actually prefer the bright-red "Swiss mouse"...
I'm sure someone would be happy to have yours.

It's interesting how there are only 2 reactions to that mouse:
"love it" or "hate it".

Cheers,
Andy
-- 
    ==--
  -====---    Andreas Meyer, N2FYE                     ahm@hoqas2.att.com
  --==----    AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ        ..!att!hoqas2!ahm
    ----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Subject: Re: 630 Terminal Help
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.190324.7961@cbnews.cb.att.com> ahm@hoqas2.att.com (Andreas Meyer) writes:
=In comp.sys.att, kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec) writes:
=[re: 5620 mouse]
=
=> You've got to be kidding.  One of the worst mice ever made.  It's
=> like a softball 'fer 'cryin out loud!  Next time I go to a hamfest
=> or computer show, I'm going to find a replacement.
=
=Some of us actually prefer the bright-red "Swiss mouse"...
=I'm sure someone would be happy to have yours.

Hey! This is *my* thread! If anyone gets his mouse, *I* do!! :-)

=It's interesting how there are only 2 reactions to that mouse:
="love it" or "hate it".

Well, there's a third: wishing you could use it!