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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Gorka or Morrissey (decisions...)
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:59:48 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <1ice1iINN7dt@bigboote.WPI.EDU> driel@wpi.WPI.EDU (Deborah M Riel) writes:

>I need help!  The Old Vienna in Westboro, MA will be having John Gorka
>on 2/6 and Bill Morrissey on 2/13.  I can't afford both and I have an
>offer of child care on one of those dates, my choice.  Does anyone
>have any strong reasons to see or not to see either of these performers?
>Preferences?  Opinions?  It's a rare opportunity for me to go
>_anywhere_ at all, so I want to make the most of it!

Bill Morrissey
Bill Morrissey 
Bill Morrissey

I've seen both live. Been listening to Bill for about 10 years now and
he ALWAYS gives a great show...he can go from heartbreaking to
sidesplitting. (I don't know when his first album came out, but he
was a regular at the Nameless Coffeehouse in Harvard Square in the
early 80's)

  I don't understand the fuss about Gorka. He's written one or two
decent songs but to me he is yet another New-Yorker-singing-about
-insights-from-Analysis. I find him very thin.


another poster says that Bill Morrissey and Greg Brown are doing an
album together? Ohboyohboy!

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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Mangled song lyrics
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:03:17 GMT

There's a song called "Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy," very common in nautical
circles, wherein a young sailor lad tells his true love that he'll be
going off to sea to have lots of fun and adventures now, and that he'll
think of her all the time, really he will, and that he'll write her
letters and stuff, and she shouldn't worry or anything.  It contains the
line "Let my body be where it might, my heart will be with you still",
which is, let's face it, a fairly sleazy thing to say in the first
place, but for many years I sang it as "Let my body beware at night".
(Of course, given the tendency of young women in folk songs to respond
to this sort of thing by dressing up in men's clothing and following
their sweeties around with loaded pistols, perhaps this interpretation
had some merit.)

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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: shawn colvin - any recordings/any format
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:56:01 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth

In article <1993Jan7.035708.20392@gvl.unisys.com> wrp@pslsrv1.gvl.unisys.com 
(Bill Pringle) writes:

   Try the music ftp archives.  They have an extensive set of
   discographies.  Since I happen to be the source of Shawn Colvin's
   discography, I know that hers is there :^)

You keep mentioning the ftp archives but never tell us where they are!
I've been dying to take a look at your discography.  Please give the
address whenever you mention them.  Thanks.


--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Coffee songs
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:10:21 GMT

jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman):
>Thank you for correcting my imprecision.  The song must in fact refer
>to Turkish coffee, for it contains the line
>
>	kafe b'sukar lo yutan (coffee with sugar added to it).

Slightly mangled song lyrics. :-)  It's "kafe v'sukar lo yutan"
(coffe and sugar are put in).  

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
 Are full of passionate intensity." -- W.B. Yeats
From: dominic@natcorp.ox.ac.uk (Dominic Dunlop)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: That Fairport boxed set
Summary: Tower records, Piccadilly, has lots
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:33:50 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: British National Corpus, Oxford University, GB
Originator: dominic@onions.natcorp.ox.ac.uk

Did you want that 25th anniversary boxed CD set of Rosie, 9, Babacombe
Lee and Rising for the Moon?  Did your local record store tell you
you'd missed the limited edition when you finally got around to asking
for it?  Well, Tower Records in Piccadilly (Piccadilly, London, that
is) now has a stock of them at pounds 37 something.  I don't know
whether this is because Island's run off another batch, or because
Tower has more purchasing muscle than Astley's of Wallingford.
-- 
Dominic Dunlop
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From: watson@hg.uleth.ca (Maid in Bedlam)
Subject: Re: Mangled song lyrics
Reply-To: watson@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:00:12 GMT

The first time I heard Luka Bloom's "Bones", I thought he sang:

"Balls! is all I see
 Because that's what's left of me..."

I adore his lilt though...  :)

- Carol O'Lickme
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Maura O'Connells "Crazy Dreams"
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:04:57 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

The last tune the Maura did on ACL last weekend was a song that she said that
she recorded a long time ago called "Crazy Dreams".  It was the highlight
of the show.  Would someone know on which album the song was on and if someone
has the lyrics I'd much appreciate a copy.
From: J.Crowcroft@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Jon Crowcroft)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: shawn colvin - any recordings/any format
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:35:42 GMT



maybe i've got the name spelt wrong, but a trip round virgin megastore
and tower (and rhythm records and other camden local ones) failed to  
locate anything by her

can anyone point me at where to find some?

thanks & happy new yr.

 jon
From: HENKLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (Doug Henkle, Univ of Wis Oshkosh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Clannad discography needed
Date: 8 Jan 1993 10:04:41 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> Article 14177 (28 more) in rec.music.folk
> From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
> Subject: Clannad discography needed
> Date: 6 Jan 93 22:14:35 GMT
> ...
> & might be able to construct a discography if I hit a couple
> local record stores..
> could you help out?

     When you are looking for a discography, check the Music Archives
at the University of Wisconsin-Parkside (Kenosha, WI) first, at
"ftp.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4)".  Get the file

     /pub/music/discog/Index

for the current list of all the discographies at this site.

Nov 16 16:01 /c/clannad
Feb 16  1992 /c/clannad2

     These lines are from the Index file so, jmf@endor.harvard.edu, the
files you want are:

     /pub/music/discog/c/clannad
     /pub/music/discog/c/clannad2

                                  Doug
                            henkle@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
                            Univ. of Wisconsin Oshkosh
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: build your own banjo!
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:01:50 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

If you want a really fine banjo, I'd recommend you have one
built for you by one of the custom builders.  That's what
I did.  I bought an old Vega Tubaphone pot and had Wyatt
Fawley (a local builder) make a neck for it with my own
custom inlays.  The total cost came to $750 and it is a
better banjo than Bart Reiter's top of the line, both
in sound and the quality of the inlay work (Wyatt is a real
craftsman at this).  Another fine banjo maker I know is
Kevin Enoch, of the Washington DC area.  He makes Kyle
Creed style banjos.  His are a bit more pricy, starting at $750
for a fairly plain neck and $1200 for a fancy one, but
are really first rate quality banjos, equal to anything
made in the past.  The Stew-Mac banjos are OK, but not
quite up to the quality of the old Vegas.  The Sagas
are Japanese and Korean imports and are a step lower in
quality, plus have problems with resale value.  Bob Smakula
of Elkins WV also builds nice banjos (cheaper than his
father who runs Goose Acres).  Bart Reiter's banjos
used to be nicer than they are now that they have attained
fame and volume.  I don't care for the latest ones he's
been turning out.  Probably hired too many workers
who don't have his skill or dedication.  
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From: campanella@cvg.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Cheryl Wheeler information needed
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:44:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I have two questions:

1. Does anyone know when Cheryl Wheeler's latest album will be out?  I saw her
in concert a few months ago and she said she'd have something new out soon, but
didn't say when.

2. Does anyone know a place I can get the "Circles and Arrows" CD?  Are there
stores which sell these out-of-print CDs based on availability?

						Michael
From: jeffk@cdibm.fnal.gov (Jeff Kallenbach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: John Stewart "Bullets In the Hourglass" * * * 1/2
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:13:21 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: cdibm.fnal.gov

I just picked up John Stewart's latest release and recommend it highly.  He's 
fifty-something now and has lost none of his passion.  There are a couple of 
soft spots on this album but by and large it's outstanding, particularly if you 
are a fan of his work in the 70's.  He's helped here by Rosanne Cash (another 
personal favorite) and his wife Buffy Ford.

One other that you may have missed from this past year is "Mixed Emotions" by 
David Lynn Jones.  I'm not sure it belongs in r.m.f, but give it a listen if 
you're looking for something new.

JCK
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From: alan@hicomb.hi.com (Alan Greenspan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Greg Brown at Passims
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:52:54 GMT
Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid.hi.com

I had mentioned in an earlier posting that Greg Brown would be playing at
Passims in Cambridge in February.  Actually its January, and soon too.  The
shows are:

Fri. Jan 15	8, 10:30
Sat. Jan 16	8, 10:30
Sun. Jan 17	8

All shows are $10.

-- 
Alan Greenspan			alan@hicomb.hi.com
Hitachi Computer Products
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: 1993 San Francisco Celtic Festival -- When?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 03:12:33 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

Anybody out there know (or have a guess)
as to when this year's Celtic Festival will
occur in San Francisco, California??


Steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
From: wrp@pslsrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Bill Pringle)
Subject: Re: Advice on Hungarian CDs wanted
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:03:35 GMT

In article <IfGlCFu00iV4Q1x4sC@andrew.cmu.edu> lc1r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lori Cole) writes:
>Ken Josenhans writes:
>
>   "Please send e-mail, as this is unlikely to be of general interest."
>
>Not so fast!  I'm interested, for one.  I'd also like similar
>info/recommendations on the Italian tradition, if anybody knows anything.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, I took him at his word, and sent him e-mail.  For the rest of
you, check my discography of Marta Sebestyen in the music ftp archives
discgographies.  Also, check my file - hungary.alb in my CD database
(file cd_db.tar.Z or albs.zoo).

Sorry, I don't  have anything for Italian music.
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From: e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu (Gary Varner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Slow Train thru GA: Ruminations & queries
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:16:29 GMT
Organization: ~/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu
Keywords: Blake, Norman; Slow Train; bums; English

In article <C0MDoM.I0M@world.std.com> jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) 
writes:
>This is from my journal, 18 November 1986.  I thought it might amuse
>  some of you.

[lots of introspective stuff deleted]

>        Greasy rails,
>
>Why are they greasy?
>
>                      red clay trails
>        Through the lonely pine.

I always wondered about the "greasy" too, but "the lonely pine" is
"the long-leafed pine," a coastal species which produces enormous
pine cones (and very long (9"-12") leaves and is valuable timber
[although I think for pulping, not for lumber]).

If anybody could post the chord pattern and/or tab to that song
I'd be much obliged . . . 

>I suspect he's about my age, or maybe 10 years older.


And how old would that be?  I've heard rumors that Norman's
nearing retirement, but old flat pickers never die, they only . . . 

>-- 
>        Joe Fineman             jcf@world.std.com
>        239 Clinton Road        (617) 731-9190
>        Brookline, MA 02146

Gary "Slick Sam" Varner
Philosophy, Texas A&M
College Station, TX  77843
e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu



Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: wegeng@xerox.com (Don Wegeng)
Subject: Re: Grammy nominations for folkish music
Reply-To: wegeng@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corp., Henrietta, NY
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:55:52 GMT


>#>Can someone post some info and opinion about T Bone Burnett and his albums?
>#>The only thing I've heard by him is a Chistmas song on "Acoustic Christmas",
>#>which was a wonderfully haunting bluegrass/cajun? interpetation of
>#>"God Rest Ye Merry Genetlemen" 

There's an article about him (I think) in the current issue of Acoustic Guitar
magazine.

/Don
From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Loudon Wainwright's HISTORY
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:58:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan11.205826.26231
Organization: Western Washington University


	I gave my wife a copy of Wainwright's new CD for Chanukan
(sorry, Chanukkah) and she gave me a copy of it for CHristmas.  Well,
its not really worth having two copies, but it is a very good album.
Much more serious than I'm used to hearing from Loudon.

	The album is mostly about family relations and was clearly   
inspired by the recent death of his father.  He's got songs about
his Dad,  (and one by his Dad), songs about trying to get along with
his kids ("Hitting You," for instance), a song about his sister which
is absolutely sweet, and several songs that appear to be about his
ex-wife.  In one, "So many songs," he talks about having written
so many songs about "you" (I presume his ex, who sings on it) and then
concludes "my songs about you are all about me."  About time he
noticed that.

	There is a huge amount of pain in these songs, but the clear
perception makes them worth the trouble.  In several songs he looks
at his own relationships in terms of those of his father (in "4 x 10"
he suggests all men screw up relationships with women the same way, in
another song he sees himself repeting the battles with his son that he
had with his father.  That song has my favorite line in the album:
"the bigger the front the bigger the back."  Ya had to be there.)

	DOes that mean there's no humor?  No.  "People in love" is funny,
but it also sets the theme and tone for the album.  "I'd rather
be lonely" is a riot, but its sad and nasty too.  And "The Talking
Bob Dylan Blues," is worth the price of the record all by itself.

	Mr W is one middle-aged folkie who doesn'
t seem to be burned out.  Good for him.

lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu
From: choover@charlie.usd.edu (Christopher J. Hoover)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Undisputed Masters
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:07:25 GMT
Reply-To: choover@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

A personal favorite:

John Whelan            Button Accordion

He has apparently won several all-Ireland accordion competitions.  He played at
the Sioux Falls, SD Irish Music Night last year.  If you think the accordian is
a nerd instrument, think again.  You haven't lived 'til you've seen an Irishman
do the Moonwalk whilst playing the button accordion....

Chris

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From: rmura@world.std.com (Ron Mura)
Subject: Re: Greg Brown Query
Organization: The World
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:05:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.140811.6850@walter.bellcore.com> sek@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor) writes:
> 
> |> Does anyone familiar with Greg Brown know if he ever made the children's
> |> record he's been talking about for the last couple years?  He sometimes
> |> sings a hilarious lullaby in his shows and has mentioned that it would be
> |> on the record.
> 
> It's scheduled to be released in Feb. or March by Red House Records.
> The title is "Bathtub Blues".

That's interesting because in the paper a few days ago it said that
Greg Brown and Bill Morrissey were jointly releasing a CD of cover songs
on March 15.  Could Greg Brown be coming out with two records within
a month or so of each other?  No objection here :-)!
-- 
- Ron Mura, Boston, Massachusetts              rmura@world.std.com
From: ljane@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Linda Cast)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Who made this harp?
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:38:19 GMT
Reply-To: ljane@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Linda Cast)
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: ljane@ocean


 This is a looooong shot, but who knows?

 About 6 months ago I bought a lap harp from an antique shop in
 Gloucester, Massachusetts. The folks at the Renaissance Fair in
 Texas identified it as an Irish harp. Then took it to a couple
 of skilled string craftsmen here in Austin and they examined it
 carefully.

 Turns out that someone made this harp, and did very well at it.
 The identifying feature is that he/she made it using guitar tuners.
 There were 18 strings (about 6 remain), and it was strung with silk/steel
 strings. The frame is strong, of oak/walnut perhaps. The sound board
 is missing (the board that covers the string bases). Perhaps the sound
 board carried some identification, or a date.

 Does anyone know the maker or player(s) of this unique lap harp? (Could
 not find the antique store again later, nor know the name of it.)

 With high hopes and thanks,
 Linda
-- 
Linda Cast             ljane@mpd.tandem.com
From: cm9@prism.gatech.EDU (MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD M.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Little Floyd Collins
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:09:53 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

A friend has asked for the words to a 
song called Little Floyd Collins.

I don't have it in my collection and
am not familiar with it.  I checked
to see if he was confusing it with
Pretty Boy Floyd, but he says it is
completely different.  Does anyone
have any information and perhaps the
words to this one?

Thanks!


-- 
MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD M.
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Mondegreens; was Mangled song lyrics
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:04:51 GMT

In article <1ikn9g$6sh@agate.berkeley.edu>, lanih@herald.Berkeley.EDU (J. Lani Herrmann) writes:
>Just to give credit where it REALLY belongs: I believe the term mondegreens 
>was first used by an essayist named Sylvia Wright, who published the original
>piece ("The Death of Lady Mondegreen") in Harper's Magazine and then included 
>it in a 1957 anthology of her stuff published by McGraw-Hill entitled _Get away
 . . .
>	(To be fair, I have never asked Jon-the-columnist whether he has 
>given Ms Wright true-due credit or not.)

Well, that aroused my curiosity, so I thought I'd just check with the
horse's mouth, as it were.  Mr. Carroll replies as follows:

>
> Not only did I adopt it from Ms. Wright, I have given her credit numerous
> times. I can't explaithe word every time i do a column, so I've taken to
> explaining it every other year. The song is "The Bonny Earl of Moray," by
> the way; the lines are:
>
> "Oh ye highland and ye lowlands,
> Where hae ye been?
> They hae slain the Earl of Moray,
> And lady Mondegreen."
>
> Or laid him on the green, of course.
>
> Do post for me. i fear if I go into the newsgroups i will lose what is left
> of my real life.

So, I stand corrected: he didn't coin the term.  And now we know.

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From: snorman@den.mmc.com ( Stephen P. Norman )
Subject: Re: Undisputed Masters
Reply-To: snorman@den.mmc.com
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:27:37 GMT

In article 92@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.211753.965@oracorp.com> mark@oracorp.com (Mark Bickford) writes:
>
>>I was listening to a tape of Matt Malloy in my car the other day,
>>and was overwhelmed as usual. I started wondering how many other
>>musicians could be as universally respected as the master of
>>his/her instrument in his/her musical genre as Matt Malloy is
>>for Irish music on the flute. I thought this question might make
>>a good topic for more lists (which we seem to love).
>
>Gordon Duncan 	Highland pipes
>Hamish Moore 	Small pipes

I have heard Hamish - he can really play!

>
>
>What about harpers? 
>
>Hmmmm... styles differ so much:
>
>Patrick Ball	Wire Strung Harp, modern interpretation (rolled 
>		chords, glissandi)
>
>Kim Robertson	Gut strung harp, modern interpretation
>
>Alain Stivell	Ancient wire/gut strung harp technique
>Alison Kinnaird
>
>Cheryl Fulton	Medieval double and triple harps
>
>Robin Huw Bowen	Welsh triple harp
>
>
>???

Well, I'll add this one for the list:

Chris Norman		Wooden Flute

[Yes, I know -- a shameless plug for family member!
 and while I'm at it, Chris can be found on:

 Chris Norman: The Man with the Wooden Flute (Chris tells me he may
               be nominated for a Grammy on this one)
 Helicon: numerous albums
 The Baltimore Consort: numerous albums]

Steve Norman
snorman@den.mmc.com