From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Newsgroups: news.groups,alt.native
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.culture.native
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:48:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: gnosys.1992Dec19.004844.25348
Reply-To: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)

In article <1905@frackit.UUCP> dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe) writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.203235.10147@spdcc.com>, gst@spdcc.com
>	(Gary S. Trujillo) writes:
> > In article <1992Dec11.115804.16476@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>
> > 	idoy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> > > ...
> > > one name really hasn't given anybody any grief:   soc.culture.native
> > 
> > I think that "soc.culture.native" would be an ideal name for the present...

> In that case:
> 
>                   soc.culture.native.na (North American)
>                   soc.culture.native.sa (South American)
>                   soc.culture.native.eu (Europe)
>                   soc.culture.native.as (Asia)
>                   soc.culture.native.af (Africa)
> 
> ..... and so on. 
> 
> I dunno...... Maybe?

Well, I've changed my mind a bit since writing the article quoted here,
and now feel it would be better to divide things up at the level just
below ".native" (or ".indigenous" or ".aboriginal") according to dis-
cussion and information (probably ".misc" or ".chat" for the former and
".info" for the latter).  My primary reason for this position is that I
would like to enable an easy and efficient coupling between two new
Usenet newsgroups and two existing mailing lists with carry exactly the
same kind of information that will be of interest to Usenet participants.
The volume of the mailing lists is high enough that the division is an
important part of making it all work.  Yes, not linking with the mailing
list would probably eliminate the need for the division, but at the price
of sacrificing very useful and important information and dialogue.  (This
dialogue is now being carried in alt.native, which is presently linked
with one of the mailing lists referred to here.)

My suggestion is that any division based on geography be done at a later
time, if and when volume and interest make it seem worthwhile.  But I
feel that it is important to involve the people presently on the mailing
list, who would also be beneficiaries of the link, in making this decision,
since they will be taking part in the actual vote.  I have sent an invita-
tion to the people on the primary (NATIVE-L) list, and will send one to
the others shortly, so we can soon expect to start hearing their opinions
by means of a special-purpose link I will establish on their behalf with
news.groups.  Not only will this arrangement give us the benefit of the
perspectives of those people, it will also establish the viability and
reality of the proposed link-up arrangement.

Once we have the benefit of the perspective of people who are actually
interested in the subject matter, many of them American Indians, I think
we will be in a better position to assess how important the kind of geo-
graphical divisions mentioned by Dave might actually be.

Gary
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    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
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