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From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Vrepair under NW 3.11--how much time?
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Technology, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:30:33 GMT

I am in the midst of trying to obtain approval from corporate management
for the purchase of about $100K of networking software and equipment to
be used for installing software on computers in a production line. One of
the items is a UPS, to keep the four (proposed) NW 3.11 servers from
crashing during power problems. Unfortunantly, this place is the peak of
short-term thinking; the chairman of the board doesn't seem to feel we
should spend $975 to protect the servers (the lines will produce approximately
$150 million in revenue next fiscal year; I don't want it disrupted) from
glitches. We had a outage a week and a half ago, for about 15 minutes, and
I see occasional flickers. (Side note: my systems, with UPSs attched,
had normal shutdowns, and were back up 5 minutes after power was restored.
The folks in the next department were down two hours, and are ordering a
UPS....)

The servers are planned on being 386sx 20 MHz systems, because that's 
what I can get, with 540MB SCSI drives. I remember some postings from
when NW 3.0 came out about incredibly long VREPAIR times on large
volumes (as in several hours to do 600MB). If anyone out there has any
experience with the cleanup time for volumes in the 500-600MB range,
I'd like to hear about it. I need as much ammunition as possible to 
support this, and anything that would delay the line would be a powerful
justification for the expenditure. Initially, they will be holding about
320MB of software and data, which will increase in the future as other
packages are added to the configurations.

Post or email....

Thanks!

-- 
Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chariman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"Always remember, that someone, somewhere, is making a product that will
make your product obselete." Georges Doriot, founder of American R & D.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor)
Subject: Re: Can NW 3.11 act as a router in mixed IP / IPX networks?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:18:30 GMT

peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison) writes:
: 
: I would like to connect a UNIX system to a NetWare 3.11 network.  I know
: 3.11 has TCP/IP stuff bundled with it, but I have no idea how to use this
: capability to connect to the Unix box.  More specifically, there are packages
: like the NCSA telnet package, which I can use if I put a TCP/IP driver ontop
: of the IPX driver, then run Unix-system-bound packages through a router that
: strips the outer envelope off, leaving vanilla IP for the Unix system to
: pick up, so it can respond with an IP packet the router will fold into an IPX
: envelope....
: 
: Sounds dreadful.  Can Novell NW 3.11 do it any cleaner?
: 
: -- Peter.

There are certainly cleaner ways of having IPX/IP coexistence. I have used the
Clarkson university packet drivers with BYU's IPX/packet driver along with
NCSA for some time...  This method means your Ethernet card is actually
"talking" both prtocols in their native mode.. No enacpsulation is necessary.

Novell's TCP/IP routing feature of 3.11 is quite nice indeed, especially if you
have a network of TCP/IP users who you don't wish to have access to the Novell
server... You can have one network running IPX and TCP, and the other network
just running TCP... The novell server will not accept IPX connections from
the TCP-only net, but will happily route TCP/IP packets, so that those on the
IPX network can use the TCP/IP services... The router is certainly not a
requirement for your IPX user to get to TCP though...

Ken

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From: gaf+@pitt.edu (Jerry A Flotta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Poor response time problem.
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:36:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: gaf@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

We are experiencing slowdowns (poor response time) on our 8086 and 8088
based machines (IBM PS/2 mod 25, AT&T 6300, Xerox) while using Lan Workplace
version 4.0.  Our other 286/386 pc's do not incur the problem.   Choice of 
hosts for telneted applications does not make a difference.  Users do not
have same poor response time problem when running Clarkson tn3270.  Does 
anyone have any clues?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.mac.system
From: ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz)
Subject: Re: NW4Mac 3.01 and System 7.0 Tune-Up v1.1
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:18:49 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <zmk+wdA@engin.umich.edu> marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker) writes:
>In article <jblue.702174883@mwunix> jblue@mwunix.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
>>
>>Dave, 
>>In limited testing I've performed 7.1.1 did not correct the problems with
>>printing to a novell queue.  The problem in fact is worse now.  With 7.1, the

Check comp.sys.mac.announce--there have been several reports of serious bugs
with Tuneup 1.1, and it apparently is being recalled.  Now they're sending
out Tuneup 1.1.1..... Anyone know when it will end?  Geez. 
>
>ATPS2.ZIP (i downloaded it from the Novell Walnut Creek BBS:
>510-938-6080).  With ATPSFIX2.NLM loaded, it works fine.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
I haven't heard of this patch.  Is it for all ATPS owners, or just those
who want to run System 7?  I have NW for Mac 3.01 running system 6.0.7. 
Should I get hold of this or ignore it?

-E.

-- 
Eric J. Huppertz, Systems Manager | "I turned my air conditioner around and it
Daily Vidette, Illinois State U.  |  got cold out. The weatherman said 'I don't 
ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu     |  understand, it was supposed to be 80  
(309) 438-8565                    |  today,' and I said 'Oops.'"  -S. Wright 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: brinich@keinstr.uucp (Mark Brinich)
Subject: Re: MACs and Novell 3.11
Keywords: MAC 3.11 
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:35:45 GMT

In article <terrya.39@MCES.MsState.Edu> terrya@MCES.MsState.Edu (Terry Arnsdorff) writes:
>My current 3.11 LAN has 140 users.  There are also about a dozen MACs in the 
>building.  What will be the best way to connect them to the building LAN?
>
>The MACs are currently stand-alone machines.
>

As I recollect, you can now get ARCnet, Ethernet, and Token Ring cards for your MACs, so any of these would be candidates in addition to go old "Appletalk" connection built into every MAC.  It really depends on your current wiring setup and budget.  Also keep in mind that most Apple printers work best when talking on Appletalk wiring, which means that's where you'll probably want to put them.  I'm not sure if it's true with System 7, but other System x systems, you can't have 2 network connections running 
at the same time on a MAC.  So if you put your printers on Appletalk wiring, you may have to put the MACs themselves on Appletalk wiring.

Hope this helps............mcb
-- 
Mark Brinich
voice mail(or maybe the real live thing)216 498-2821
e-mail   uunet!keinstr!brinich
Keithley Instruments  28775 Aurora Rd. Cleveland, Ohio 44139-1891
From: cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: quota
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:33:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

I'd also like to add that the file server was okay after I rebooted.  NO
problems were caused by AESPEP.ZIP to the file server!
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From: joel@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NW3.11 and Printer problemDIR/REG
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:48:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr8.144819.706
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

A quick thanks to those who responded to my problem with NW3.11 and setting up
the Pserver NLM.  I've got everything working now.

The problem lay in the Port Address for the NE2000 card (360h) and LPT1 (378h).
The NIC was stomping on the LPT1 port address.  I changed the NE2000 card
address to 340h and everything came up roses.  :-)

Again - thanks to respondants.
-- 
Joel Jackson			Bitnet:	   JOEL@GACVAX1.BITNET
Academic Computing Dept.	Internet:  joel@gac.edu
Gustavus Adolphus College	Phone:	   (507) 933-7015	
St. Peter, MN  56082		Fax:	   (507) 933-7041
From: keith@novell.com (Keith Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell & Netwise
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:23:27 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California

In article <199204020455.AA05121@tuna.wang.com> DAVID.BUSHONG@OFFICE.WANG.COM (Dave Bushong) writes:
>I can't get the details, but some people around here say that
>Novell removed RPC support awhile back.  Does anyone know if
>that's true, and/or what the reason(s) may have been?

No its not true. We still sell a TIRPC toolkit that enables you to write
RPC client and server NLMs that can use TCP/UDP/IPX and/or SPX as
the transport mechanism and also, DOS client and server RPC apps that
can use IPX and/or SPX as the transport. Windows support for the DOS
piece is on its way. Support for TCP and UDP at the DOS client too.
Be patient.

The API's we expose are the same as the Sun ONC RPC API's. If you
aren't man enough to figure out the "raw" RPC API's its possible to
use the network compiler tools from companies like NetWise to generate
the RPC client and server stubs for you. NetWise do one specifically for
NetWare development. I understand it can speed up your development time
a fair bit.

Keith
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Keith Brown                                      Phone: (408) 473 8308
Novell San Jose Development Centre               Fax:   (408) 433 0775
2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131      Net:   keith@novell.COM
From: icsu8053@cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Print accounting
Summary: How?
Keywords: accounting Netware 3.11 print cron
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:52:21 GMT
Reply-To: icsu8053@cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt)
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717

What's the best way to track printer usage by individual user under 
Netware 3.11?

Also, what would be the best way to enable and disable print queues at
predetermined times?  Would the cron utility work well for this? 
Is it stable?  Note: This will be on a mixed Mac/DOS network

Which Ethernet cards would you recommend for Mac IIsi's?

Thanks for any information you can provide.  I'll post a summary of any
replies if there's interest.

-- 
 Craig Pratt                                           icsu8053@cs.montana.edu
 Montana State University, Bozeman MT             gcp1070@msu.oscs.montana.edu
     "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and
      democracy - but that could change." -- Vice President Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James K Earp)
Subject: Lanspool 3.02
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:54:04 GMT

I finally received my copy of 3.02 Lanspool to replace the older
version I had.  Installed it yesterday, the copy on the server 
seemed not to be working properly so I deleted it to install it
again.  Big mistake!  Seems the sneaky devils have something in
there to prevent copying several times onto other file servers.
Sigh.  I thought we'd gotten past that kind of flaky programming.
Oh well.  Problem now is the !@#$%^&*( thing won't let me re-install.
It keeps saying that it can't open the library message data file. 
Anybody want to help me before I put my foot through the file server
and go join a monastery.  Thanks!
From: keith@novell.com (Keith Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: bug in 3.11 ip routing
Keywords: novell 3.11, c-class, routing
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:11:42 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California

In article <2093@corton.inria.fr> elias@corton.inria.fr (Banska Bystrica) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I have found this problem in Novell 3.11. I have server with 4 
>ethernet cards and they have c-class ip address 
> [ ... ]
>Subnet is set up for 2 bits.Netmasks and broadcasts are set up, too.
>The problem - [ etc.... ]

No. The problem is that your trying to make 4 subnets out of 2 bits of
subnet mask where addresses with subnet bits of all zeroes or all ones
are illegal. Consequently, you can only make 2 subnets out of 2 bits
of subnet masks (addresses where the subnet bits = 01 on one side of
the router and 10 on the other).

That..... is the problem. Don P will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe
the TCPIP.NLM in NetWare 3.11 doesn't issue warnings if you try and
do this. The TCPIP.NLM thats spinning round on sjf-lwp.novell.com
does though (~/nw311/tcpip/* or thereabouts).

Keith

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Keith Brown                                      Phone: (408) 473 8308
Novell San Jose Development Centre               Fax:   (408) 433 0775
2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131      Net:   keith@novell.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,listserv.novell
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: File transfer software
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Technology, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:05:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.180539.3637@csn.org> cummings@secutron.com writes:
>What software is available that performs file transfers over serial connections,
>(modems).  I'm looking for something that is equivalent to UUCP, which runs
>on TCP/IP in the unix world.

Almost any terminal program, in combination with another terminal program
or a communications server at the other end, can be used for file transfers.

Uucp provides a lot more than just file transfer, though. And, there are
DOS implementations of uucp available (one is included with Waffle; another
is uupc) which you could use.

What environment do you plan to use this in? Local or remote connections?
Which operating system? Do you want unattended or automatic operation? Your
question was not really specific enough to give you a precise answer.

-- 
Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chariman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"Always remember, that someone, somewhere, is making a product that will
make your product obselete." Georges Doriot, founder of American R & D.
From: goerz@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas R Goerz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NW3.11 and Printer problem
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:48:17 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I don't know about this guy's problem, but I just fixed our rprinter
here at the lab by replacing the serial/paralell card with a BOCA card.
That's a noname 40 Mhz 386 mother board and a I/O card that we've bought and
had to swap.  I hardly blame AMD as the 25 Mhz 386 and the 40 Mhz board were
identical except for the processor.  The brand name is Magitronic (Ha Ha) and
doubt we'll ever buy their junk again.  Saved lot's of money didn't we?? :-)

Thomas Goerz
goerz@ecn.purdue.edu
From: bellivea@olympus.ctron.com (Alan Belliveau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell's Network Numbers
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:45:12 GMT
Reply-To: bellivea@olympus.ctron.com (Alan Belliveau)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.
Originator: bellivea@olympus



    Could somebody please explain to me the difference between Novell's
internal IPX number and the network number. I will appreciate any responce.
       
    Direct mail would be preferred. Thanks In advance.
                                         Alan B.


-- 
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Alan Belliveau                                          Heaven is under feet as
Cabletron Systems Inc                                   well as over our heads. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pyrros@mars.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Re: Vrepair under NW 3.11--how much time?  UPS help!
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:53:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.163033.24314@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
>The servers are planned on being 386sx 20 MHz systems, because that's 
>what I can get, with 540MB SCSI drives. I remember some postings from
>when NW 3.0 came out about incredibly long VREPAIR times on large
>volumes (as in several hours to do 600MB). If anyone out there has any
>experience with the cleanup time for volumes in the 500-600MB range,
>I'd like to hear about it. I need as much ammunition as possible to 
>support this, and anything that would delay the line would be a powerful
>justification for the expenditure. Initially, they will be holding about
>320MB of software and data, which will increase in the future as other
>packages are added to the configurations.

Although we have a UPS, once our 3.11 sever crashed (probably due to a static
zap!).  We have 1.9 GIGS of disk and 43 people were logged in at that time.

We were lucky; only 60 files were open and the VRepair took about 45 minutes.

However, we still haven't been able to get the UPS.NLM to work with our
Trip Lite OMNI Lan 1250--any suggestions?

Chris
Xref: sparky comp.sys.novell:3649 news.groups:10390
From: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.sys.novell reorganization
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:43:47 GMT
Reply-To: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute

weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT]) writes:

> kwang@hermes.calpoly.edu <kwang@nike.calpoly.edu> writes:

> >This is a Request For Discussion for the reorganization of comp.sys.novell
> >into several sub-groups.

> I don't think this reorganisation is a good idea.

I agree.  There is no need to reorg, given the small volume of this group.

Dennis Allard
allard@isi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Win 3.1 and IPX.OBJ
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:44:55 GMT

Well... I began installing Windows 3.1 and got the error message that
I was expecting (current IPX is outdated, get NET manager to issue you
an updated version).  Installed Windows anyway.   Curious, though,
I've been using the old version of IPX (Novell 3.11 server software)
and have had no problems.  What's supposed to go wrong???

A few days later, I got into the WSGEN directory and copied the
IPX.OBJ that came with Win3.1.  Recompiled (am using a packet driver
that come with the Cabletron ethernet board).  But when I tried
booting up with the new IPX.COM, the system crashed.  Tried
regenerating several times, same outcome.  Then regenerated using the
original IPX.OBJ to see if maybe the compiling process wasn't working,
but... it did work, and my system came up alright.

So.... now I'm still using the original IPX.COM, no problems with
Win3.1.  

Questions:
1)  What incompatibilities should I expect when Win3.1 install tells
me to get an updated IPX.COM?

2)  Has anyone successfully regenerated a new IPX using Microsoft's
IPX.OBJ??


-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical" - Yogi
From: mdn@apap4.pap.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: HELP: how to attach to several servers simultaneously ?!?!?
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:28:31 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center

Dear Netters,
            I have LWP4DOS 4.01 on my PC and I'm trying to attach to several
Novell file-severs simultaneously, but it doesn't work. The "LWP
Admin's Guide" does *NOT* state anything about this problem (as well as all
the other manuals).

Does anybody out there know if and how I can attach to several file-servers
simultaneously ???


Thanx for your kind assistance and help,

-Mike


Mike D. NJOROGE
NJOROGE@Pap.Univie.Ac.At
From: adlacy@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: TCP/IP to access local hard disk & VAX over phone line
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:55:07 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin

Hello to all,

I have a network at home, set up for kicks, and I suppose to suss out
just what Novell was like.

Now I want to go further afield!!

I have version 2.0a (groan!), and I want to run Telnet so I can login in
to each individual PC and access their local hard disks (possible?)

I also want to telnet into a VAX account thru the phone line.

More probs..I have Corvus Omninet cards...no driver for them in the
Clarksonpacket drivers (though it says Omninet is class 4)

Can I use netbios instead...and run tcp/ip over that ?


From yet another novice Novell user,

-- 
      
      cheers, Andy!
________________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Lacy,                          |  adlacy@vax1.tcd.ie 
Final year Computer Eng. Ugrad.,      |  adlacy@unix2.tcd.ie
Trinity College Dublin, Ireland.      |  adlacy@ashe.cs.tcd.ie
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From: jverdega@cae.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Verdegan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Vrepair under NW 3.11--how much time?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:11:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr8.121110.4746
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

In article <1992Apr8.005825.3955@seas.gwu.edu> iqbal@seas.gwu.edu (Iqbal Qazi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.160544.10688@doug.cae.wisc.edu> jverdega@cae.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Verdegan) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.163033.24314@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
>>>[...]
>>and to run VREPAIR on a ~1.9MB volume takes anywhere
>>from 30 minutes (if we offer the proper supplications to the scuzzy gods) to--
>>and I'm not kidding here--eight hours.  Granted, the latter case is rare, but
>
>Uhhh....Are you sure that's not a ~1.9*GB* volume?  I mean, who would
>make a volume 1.9 Meg?
>

Oops. There must've been a wrinkle in the time-space cotinuum that caued the
'M' and 'G' keys to be temporarily exchanged on my keyboard.  Yeah, that's the 
ticket...
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 10:36:30 EDT
From: Mark Strandskov <34HLEFG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NBACKUP and Bernoulli

Has anyone out there used NBACKUP to backup their server to a Bernoulli
Removable HD system?  I would assume that this would work just like
backing up to any other disk but I would like to know if people like
it, dislike it or just find it adequate.  This is for a network where
they would like to be able to use the device for something other than
just a backup device and Bernoulli seems to solve the problem.

Thanks,

Mark...