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From: cchd@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au (Huw Davies)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RACV Bike Insurance...
Keywords: Insurance
Date: 6 Sep 92 10:13:14 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <jmp.715764087@atmos> jmp@dar.csiro.au (POWELL James;Change Jmp Impacts;575) writes:
>Can anyone tell me why RACV can insure bikes at fraction of the cost of
>insuring with a company such as Western Underwriters.
>
>For example,
>
>-Friends RGV250 - ~$550 @ Western & ~$220 at RACV (full comp, age excess only)
>
>Oddly, RACV were happy to accept the RGV as a 249cc bike, hence it fell into
>a cheaper price bracket... (Yes I know it IS a 249cc bike but I bet Western
>or Swan won't let you do that!)

Well they've been doing it for a while. I insured my RG250 with them
(cost me $75 a year - it was a while ago :-) After my 'little' accident
(did about $2000 damage when RG250s cost about $2500) they paid up
without complaint, although the following year the insurance cost was
$100!


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From: jmp@dar.csiro.au (POWELL James;Change Jmp Impacts;575)
Subject: RACV Bike Insurance...
Keywords: Insurance
Organization: CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 07:21:27 GMT

Can anyone tell me why RACV can insure bikes at fraction of the cost of
insuring with a company such as Western Underwriters.

For example,

-Friends RGV250 - ~$550 @ Western & ~$220 at RACV (full comp, age excess only)

-My CBR600 - ~$500 @ Western & ~$300 at RACV (full comp)

Oddly, RACV were happy to accept the RGV as a 249cc bike, hence it fell into
a cheaper price bracket... (Yes I know it IS a 249cc bike but I bet Western
or Swan won't let you do that!)

There must be catch! Anyone know what it is?

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From: rda582y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray)
Subject: Insurance
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:07:14 GMT

I am currently looking at insurance for a bike.

What is the 'best' company to go through ... and what will I typically be paying
for a bike worth around $1500?  (full comp and extended 3rd party)

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From: robert@ctpm.uq.oz.au (Robert Merlicek)
Subject: Motorcycle alarms
Summary: motorcycle alarms?
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:14:51 GMT

I recently made the decision to purchase a new bike(guess I'll be poor
for a while now) anyway I would like to get a alarm for it. 
Does anyone know some good models, kinds of prices, availability, etc
that could help me. Thought about a blue healer on the tank, but the paw
scratches wouldn't go do to well.

Also how good are sheepskins for longer rides?. How long do they take to 
dry out when they get wet. What price range would they be.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Robert

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From: mawson@aldetec.oz.au (Graeme Mawson)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Renting bikes in Cairns area (was Re: Melbourne Ride )
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:56:38 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Aldetec Pty Ltd, Perth West Australia

In article <1992Sep13.064647.25100@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au>, Guy Carpenter wrote:

> A yank tourist rented a bike in Cairns a month or two ago, came up to
> the Tablelands via Kuranda, then down the Gillies Highway (20kms of
> spectacular winding road).

I'll be heading up to the Cairns/Port Douglas area in November with my
girlfriend and would dearly love to ride through the tablelands area on a
rented bike.  Do you (or anyone else) know how / where I can rent a bike?
What about restrictions ... age, number of months/years held licence, etc ??
I have an "L" class licence -- i.e. up to 250cc (is this the same system
throughout Australia??  i.e. "L" is <= 250cc, "K" is open).  Also, where
are the best places in this area to ride?

All advice will be GREATLY appreciated :-)

> Seems he was enjoying the scenery, and he
> dropped off the right shoulder at speed.

I'll be careful ... promise !! :-)

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You mean that you get PAID to work in Atherton and to study Tropical Forests??
Lucky man!!!

Cheers,
Graeme Mawson.
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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RACV Bike Insurance...
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:24:07 +1000
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <14362@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au>, twb@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Tony Basaranowicz) writes:
>
> When I bought my first bike (ZZR250), I asked the bike dealer for any
> recommendations on insurance. The guy said to go with Western Underwriters.
> I replied that RACV were *lots* cheaper, and that I was probably going to
> insure with them. He basically said that RACV weren't that quick in responding
> to accident claims, and that some people had waited up to a month to get back
> onto the road (providing they were OK then).

        I think (but I can't say for *sure*) that dealers get commissions
when they get you to take out a policy with their "reccomended" insurance
company.


           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
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From: rob@gbrmpa.gov.au (Rob McGill)
Subject: Re: kidney punches
Organization: Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:02:18 GMT

david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc) writes:

>ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:

>>So has anyone been riding along a highway, suddenly hit a bump/pothole
>>and felt as though their kidneys have been reduced to 1/4 normal size?
>>Bloody hurts.

>You are NOT kidding! I felt winded sore and very annoyed! The memory brings
>tears to my eyes...

>>PS How about organising a melbourne ride for first weekend in October?
>>email or post...

>YES! Round townsville and back. May take a weekend though :-)


From first-hand experience, believe me the roads around Townsville have sooooo
many potholes that you'll need dialysis after a couple of years !!!!


..................................................................
rob@gbrmpa.gov.au (Kidney sore Townsville resident)   :*{AGGH}
..................................................................
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: brake test mishap...
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:55:28 GMT

Ok. Here's what happened. Thought I'd see how quickly I could stop
with the RG. So, about 120kph, slammed on the brakes, keeping in mind
that I could drop it if I locked up. So I didn't really slam on the 
brakes, just put them on as hard as I could. So guess what happened :

No, I didn't drop it. I heard a "clunk" sound as the forks bottomed out,
and today I noticed a scratched mudguard. At about the same spot it was
scratched before the respray. So that's what it was from...

I didn't think they'd go down that far! Bastards...

Shckwish!

PS I was quite impressed with how quickly I stopped though. Can't tell
you exactly (can't remember - I was thinking about the clunk too much)
but I remember that I was impressed)...

Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ccla@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lee Askew)
Subject: Melbourne Ride (was:Re: kidney punches)
Organization: James Cook University
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:50:50 GMT


>>PS How about organising a melbourne ride for first weekend in October?
>>email or post...

>YES! Round townsville and back. May take a weekend though :-)

Hey sounds like a great idea to me!!!! Ride up here then upto Cairns,
ride the tablelands (equal to if not better than great ocean road)

Then skip across to Mount Isa, then back down the middle via Ayres
Rock!!!

Perfect...

Lee.
CBR1000  
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: Melbourne Ride (was:Re: kidney punches)
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:55:42 GMT

>A yank tourist rented a bike in Cairns a month or two ago, came up to
>the Tablelands via Kuranda, then down the Gillies Highway (20kms of
>spectacular winding road).  Seems he was enjoying the scenery, and he
>dropped off the right shoulder at speed.  Broke his jaw, some ribs, 
>don't recall what all.  Worst of his problems was that no one knew
>where he was, and he was way down the bank below the road - out of
>sight.  Poor bastard managed to crawl back up to the road and get
>help.  Lucky the ants didn't eat him first.

One of my great fears... to prevent this, I have a Batmobile like grappling
hook which is activated when both tyres are off the ground. This ensures that
the bike will never fall down the side of the bank.

>Suffer for your pleasure?

>Guy.

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From: Neal Gowen <gowen@rsbs0.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Motorcycle alarms
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:53:59 GMT
Organization: RSBS Australian National University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 05:54:54 GMT

In article <robert.716526891@babel.cltr.uq.oz.au> Robert Merlicek,
robert@ctpm.uq.oz.au writes:

>Also how good are sheepskins for longer rides?. How long do they take to 
>dry out when they get wet. What price range would they be.

I wouldn't go on a long trip without one.  I have a tailor-made one for 
the XJ  and it certainly reduced numb-bum syndrome.  

They do take a while to dry and smell like wet sheep.   I usually cover 
the seat with a garbage back if it looks like rain.

Neal G.
_______________________________________________________
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"Grow Old Disgracefully"
Australian National University
email:  gowen@rsbs0.anu.edu.au
voice:  61 6 249 2942 fax:  61 6 249 2603 
snail:   GPO Box 475 Canberra
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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: Re: kidney punches
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:01:20 GMT

In article <18jssvINN4a6@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> ptaplin@escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Taplin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.065837.26235@iconix.oz.au> ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:
>
>>PS How about organising a melbourne ride for first weekend in October?
>>email or post...
>
>Cool! I'm likely to be in Melbourne that weekend.
>
So will I :) but - bike :( I'll be there for an IRC gathering :)

Jason.

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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: Neal Gowen <gowen@rsbs0.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Visibility on black bike
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Sep 92 21:39:15 GMT
Organization: RSBS Australian National University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 03:40:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.023401.14138@mariner.amc.edu.au> Anneliese Kropf,
akropf@mariner.amc.ed.au writes:
>Has anyone any thoughts on clothing and helmet colours on bikes?  We need
>to buy new DriRiders but can't decide on Red (for visibility) or Black
>(for preference) with bright helmets.  Has anyone any suggestions as to
>whether  the new trendy bright helmets would stand out enough on a black
>bike (ZZR) with black riders or whether red would be better.  We are
>located in Tasmania where the traffic is nowhere near as bad as Melbourne
>or Sydney but would like to tour on the 'big island' and need to take
>this into consideration.

The old conspicuity thing has many aspects Anneliese.   The first thing
to 
remember is no matter what colour your bike or your clothing is,  someone 
out there will not look for you on the road.  You can never assume by
wearing
something bright that you are going to be "seen".  

I always use the idea that all other road users have not seen me and I 
ride accordingly.

As far as the colours of your gear go you should think about your whole 
silhouette.  The greater the variety of colours the more you look like
army 
camouflage and your silhouette breaks up.  One continuous colour would be
more effective.

Black DriRiders don't show the dirt but can be damn hot in warmer weather.
I have a blue set and keep them clean with soap, hot water and a nail
brush.
(dont' want to look like a scum biker do I 8-) )

Neal G.
_______________________________________________________
Neal Gowen (XJ900 and TY250B)   MRA #204 ;  Ulysses #2458
"Grow Old Disgracefully"
Australian National University
email:  gowen@rsbs0.anu.edu.au
voice:  61 6 249 2942 fax:  61 6 249 2603 
snail:   GPO Box 475 Canberra
________________________________________________________
From: carterb@topaz.ucq.edu.au (Heaven can wait...)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: motorcycle by train/plane
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:16:55 AET
Distribution: aus
Organization: U.C.Q. Rockhampton, Qld.

In article <ck.716178601@iconix.oz.au>, ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:
> Has anyone ever transported their bike over a large distance? (ie Melb-Perth,
> etc etc) on train or plane. Any problems at all? Cost? Companies which do it?
> Insurance? Etc etc. Just out of curiosity - I would like to take my bike and
> myself up to NT or Alice Springs and hoon around - but I won't ride a 2strk
> for 3000k's (can you blame me!).
> 
> Any info at all appreciated. (even just Melb-Sydney would help..)

I had a mate who blew his engine in the middle of Victoria somewhere, and had 
to get his bike shipped back up to Rockhampton. He put it on the train, an when
it got up here, the handlebars had been bent, one mirror had been broken, an
indicator stuffed, and some of his fairing was cracked. Seems they just threw
it in against the side and didn't tie it down securely.. (Either that or the
boys at the trainyard couldn't resist a bit of a go, and put it down:)

	Whatever, this is the only encounter we've had with the railway, so it
may have just been a one off thing. Besides that, it would have to be loads
cheaper than sending by air...

	BTW, he went all that way on a two-stroke (RZ250), but maybe thats why
it had to come home in a crate:)

> 
> Shckwish! DoD #1369
> RG250FH Walter Wolf Racing rep.
> 
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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: victoria ride
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:22:39 GMT

Here's the proposed start for the victoria ride. I've had email from a couple
of people, could anyone interested post or email me regarding this starting
location and date.

I propose:

Starting location : BP service station, Diamond Creek Rd, Map 11 D7.
Date : Saturday (or sunday, whatever is better), October 6th 
Time : Midday (or earlier, like 10am, 11am...).

The start is quite easy to get to. (see your melways..).
BYO bikes, pillions and friends on bikes.

Any comments, email me.

From there, most likely move onto Hurstbridge, and then country. (toolangi,
yea, etc etc. If anyone feels like going onto Lake Eildon or Alexandra, Black
Spur, etc, then all are close by).

Take care,

  Shckwish!
From: ptaplin@escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Taplin)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: kidney punches
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:00:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Architecture, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au

In article <1992Sep8.065837.26235@iconix.oz.au> ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:

>PS How about organising a melbourne ride for first weekend in October?
>email or post...

Cool! I'm likely to be in Melbourne that weekend.



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From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: Re: Hello anyone home? AND a question . . .
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 13:02:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.131800.1@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au> pittam@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au writes:
>
>while applying the brakes I must have hit a bump or pothole (how can you miss
>them) or some dropped oil or mud on one of the heavy truck routes out in the
>Western Suburbs.  The front buckled under and down I went (ouch).  I put a hole
>in the sidecover and caught a nasty dose of gravel rash but the insurance will

Well sounds like the front locked, under these conditions if you feel it
starting to go then release the front brake immediatley .. (summin I learned at
the Stay Upright Course) :) .. as to the ease that it locked up it could be lots
of things.  A friend of mine has a GPZ900 and it is very stable in the front end
it could be in your set up the pressure in the forks could be to High etc.  It
is hard to tell without seeing the bike ..

>only saving grace was that I was passing a cage at the time and he may have
>confused the shot (he was also the reason I was doing my 115k or thereabouts -
>I don't enjoy riding in the wash of a cage).  Good to see our mates in blue
>targetting the trouble spots !!!!

Don't they always :(( .. I have solved the problem though after my little trip
to the USA recently I bought a radar detector and the $160 I spent has already
paied it's self off several times. BTW they have new radar detectors that have
STEALTH .. this makes it alot harder for the radar detector detectors to spot
them :) ..

Keep it shiny side up :)
Jason.

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N.S.W. Australia 2233   rider is not necessarily a motorcyclist. - jef.
From: pittam@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hello anyone home? AND a question . . .
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:18:00 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <1992Sep4.044946.25373@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, brianm@plod.cbme.unzw.oz.au (Brian Murray) writes:
> Is this newsgroup still working? I havent recieved any posts for days now!
> 

I was beginning to think the same thing !!  Glad to see some items trickling
through again.

I would like to ask a question - but let's begin at the beginning.

Last Thursday was one of those typical Melbourne spring days (ie hissing down)
but I was persevering the best I could.  I was astride the mighty GPZ900 and
enjoying what I could see of the scenery through the rain and fogged visor but
while applying the brakes I must have hit a bump or pothole (how can you miss
them) or some dropped oil or mud on one of the heavy truck routes out in the
Western Suburbs.  The front buckled under and down I went (ouch).  I put a hole
in the sidecover and caught a nasty dose of gravel rash but the insurance will
take care of that.  Many thanks to the bloke in the ute that carried me and my
bike home, sorry about the oil spill though.  The question is: this is the
third similar incident in as many years (and only four years of riding) - each
time losing the front - maybe one day I might get it right!! - what is the
insurance company going to think?  Does anybody have any similar experience?

This was the same day that I may have added my picture to the revenue-raisers
scrap book - pre dawn, raining, traffic density 2 vehicles per km, highway
location (Melton), straight stretch, can safely do 120+, usual story !!  My
only saving grace was that I was passing a cage at the time and he may have
confused the shot (he was also the reason I was doing my 115k or thereabouts -
I don't enjoy riding in the wash of a cage).  Good to see our mates in blue
targetting the trouble spots !!!!


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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: kidney punches
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:58:37 GMT

So has anyone been riding along a highway, suddenly hit a bump/pothole
and felt as though their kidneys have been reduced to 1/4 normal size?
Bloody hurts. I think I would've lost my passenger at that point if I
did have one...

Shckwish!

PS How about organising a melbourne ride for first weekend in October?
email or post...


Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: Sydney Ride (Reminder)
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:50:57 GMT

Just a reminder that the Sydney Ride is on Sunday the 13th of September at 10am
leaving from my place .. for info e-mail jef@ansto.gov.au ...

Stay Upright ...
Jason.
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e-mail: jef@ansto.gov.au
Po Box 24 Engadine      A motorcyclist rides a motorcycle but a motorcycle
N.S.W. Australia 2233   rider is not necessarily a motorcyclist. - jef.
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: motorcycle by train/plane
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:18:46 GMT

In <Gary.Woodman.687.716434913@anu.edu.au> Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman) writes:

>In article <ck.716178601@iconix.oz.au> ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:

>>I would like to take my bike and myself up to NT or Alice Springs

>Hate to break it to you so bluntly, but Alice Springs _is_ in the N.T....
ok - I meant Darwin... Jeeez.... :-)!

>Ride to Adelaide or Port Augusta (don't miss Horrocks Pass) if you can stand 

(don't think I could stand the smell in Port Augusta...)

>--
>Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.

Shckwish!

PS Thanks for your reply..

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