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From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:42:59 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia


>>About a month ago I rented "Point Break" and ever since I can't get surfing
>>out of my head.  When I stumbled on this group I lurked for a while and
>>decided to ask a couple of questions:

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Is surfing truly different from other sports?  Is there Something More to it
>>than just paddlin' out into the surf and ridin' back in?
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rather than answer your questions with answer's I thought I'd answer your 
question with questions in finest Jewish Tradition .Not that I'm Jewish,
I'm an aussie through to the bone with Irish Ancestors... :-)

Q1 Is sex truly different from other sports?   
Q2 Is there Something More to it than just thrusting into  your partner and 
repeating that many times ?
	

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Is it possible to dump your sappy eastern US, software designer job, go out
>>to surf mecca and live like a native for the rest of you life?
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Anythings possible....

>Can't speak for USA but in Oz it's definitely possible, the
>unemployment benefit's are sufficient for a group to get together,
>rent a house and do nothing else but surf, well almost nothing else,
>Nigel could probably elaborate on that :-).

Yeah I'm on what we here call Social Security.You can be a part-time
student and still goto university (surf), and collect "the dol".
For me it pays $155 a week which is easily livable,considering my rent
is $55 a week.
It took them 6 weeks to pass my application with their beuraucratic
bungles,so my first payment was back-dated and I got $930... :-)

I surf as often as I need and when conditions would be ok.
There are lots of places to run to on this globe if you really
want to hide,be a native and surf.But as the saying goes....
"Nice place to visit,but I don't think I'd want to live here..."


>>Bottom line.  How does surfing affect the inner man?  Or does it at all?
>>
>>KimmyD

 Q3 Bottom line.(No Pun)How does sex affect the inner man?  Or does it at all?

 Hope I've been some help,
Nigel.


>Cheer's all, keep surfing,
>Lud.
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: I'm bored....
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:13:51 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia


	 
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	" FUCK OFF TOURIST !!!"


-- 
What did the bannana say to the vibrator ?
What are you shaking for, s/he's going to eat me.
What did one petifile say to the other petifile ?
Swap you two fives for a ten.
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: irc times.
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:47:33 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer) writes:


>I'm available from 9am to 5-6pm U.S Pacific (3am to 11am-Noon Aus. East)  
>pretty much every day.  Anyone else?...

Cool,so I should make an appointment for after my lecture friday....
10:35 am Australian times....That's if the lab is open.
Which is 4:35pm Thursday for you...
See ya then Robert...
My nick for irc is skeg. So do a /whois skeg to see if I'm on ok....

Bye,
Nigel.


>Robert


>P.S.  Just to simplify things...
>----------------------------------
>Time(Aus. east)	Time(U.S. pacific)
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>Midnight	6am	
>1am		7am (previous day)
>2am		8am (previous day)
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>9pm		3am (same day)
>10pm		4am (same day)
>11pm		5am (same day)
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: rozental@cc.und.ac.za (Nathan Rosentals)
Subject: Worst Wipeouts
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:51:39 GMT

Dear All, 

I recently flipped through the latest SURFER mag, and saw a series of picx 
of one guy going for a tube, with another guy in front of him who was trying 
to duck-dive the wave.  The duck-diver was either too slow, or didn't really 
know what he was doing, and his yellow board shot out in front of the guy on 
the wave.  All the rider could do was put his hands over his head and hope 
that he wasn't taken out by this flying surfboard, or the leash for that 
matter.  In the last photograph you can make out the duck-diver in the lip, 
about to be pitched onto the reef.  Painful ! 

I remember a similar experience, to date my worst wipeout ever.

It was a six to seven foot (face) day, and as is the case, the better breaks 
were crowded to almost infinity, so I decided to go out where the least 
surfers were out.  This just happened to be the Bowl, on a good day it 
produces beautiful clean lefts.  I was in the water for about half an hour 
when I started to realise that most of the waves were closeouts.  But, I 
felt confident, and thought that riding sizeable closeouts was better than 
nothing at all.  After two or three adrenalized rides, I was sitting in the 
backline waiting for another wave, when this freak set comes through.  I 
turned around, and started paddling for the wave, and then had this sneaking 
suspicion that I was too far inside.  So I tried to turn and duck-dive at 
the last moment.  Bad mistake.  In almost the same way as I saw in these 
pics, I lost my board, and was pitched by the wave.  Only problem was that 
my board had flipped upside-down, and I was pitched directly on top of it !
All I can remember was curling myself up into a ball as I lost my board, and 
then feeling incredible pain in my knees as I connected with my board.  It 
felt asif someone hit me just under both kneecaps with a base-ball bat.  
Luckily my board wasn't broken, and I paddled to shore in agony.  I sat on 
the beach for about half an hour writhing in pain, blood gushing from both 
knees and my elbow.

And I still had to cycle home !

Well, a month later I was back in the water, after fixing all the grevious 
bodily damage I inflicted on my board.  I was lucky that I didn't have all 
three skegs embedded in my ribcage, which could so easily have happened.

So what was your worst wipeout ?  Anybody read the article, and know what 
happened to either surfer ?  This has to be the worst wipeout I have seen 
recorded.  Sure glad no-one was there when I was taken apart !

May the surf magnet reside in your break this weekend.

Nathan Rozentals,  Durban SA.
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:55:31 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Aug19.150338.25913@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>
>OOPS! How embarassing!  I didn't get it. SHIT!
>
>By the way, I did get some good waves today.  Croyde was about shoulder to
>head high stone glass, the sun was out and I had a peak all to myself.
>
>HA! HA!
>

Croyde always was a good place to find some of the floating brown stuff,
as I remember.

Mike

P.S. It is about 2ft here (SD, North County)


Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Network surf game??? (was Re: TUBED FOR 30 SECONDS MINIMUM!!!)
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:15:27 GMT

In article <22811@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes  
74-35 x65129) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.100316.5637@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk  
(C D Burdorf) writes:
> 
> >Now for the details.  It's the surfing section of Nintendo's  
"California
> >games".  Yeah, yeah, it's like a video game, it's on TV with a control
> 
> We need a game to play on the net (like netrek)...surfnet!  You could
> could log into various servers around the globe and "surf" the local
> waves.  Also competions would be held.  complete with sharks, kooks, and
> water polution.
> 
> Brian

Why not just use this "irc" Nigel has been talking about (if I can ever  
get anybody to explain where/how the @!*$!!! thing works!) to set-up a  
surf-game forum.  Somebody gets designated as the "Big Kahuna" (B.K), sets  
up a set of general guidelines for player interaction, and people just  
start B.S.'ing with each other to see "Who Gets The Wave".  B.K. oversees  
the game... something along the lines of:

B.K.> An outside set rolls in. Nigel, Lud, and Sasquatch are in  
position... they start hassling for it...

[insert player hassling... B.K. decides who gets the wave (base it on  
quality of the B.S.ing?)]

B.K.> And Sasquatch is up on a ragin' backsider...

[Let player Sasquatch go off about the great wave he's getting]

B.K. interrupts>...but Oh! He goons it big folks and he talks a big ride  
over the falls...

.. and so on...

Make it less of a game, and more of a B.S. session where people can be  
creative(?) :^) Maybe even post good games or particular waves to the  
group from time to time...

Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com

P.S. I'm gonna see if I can dig up the source code for "irc" anywhere on  
the network... I'll post a summary if I find anything.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum)
Subject: Re: Worst Wipeouts
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:54:12 GMT
Summary: dude gets tubed, sprains his neck

In article <rozental.26.713713899@cc.und.ac.za> rozental@cc.und.ac.za (Nathan Rosentals) writes:
>So what was your worst wipeout ?  Anybody read the article, and know what 
>happened to either surfer ?  This has to be the worst wipeout I have seen 
>recorded.  Sure glad no-one was there when I was taken apart !
>
>May the surf magnet reside in your break this weekend.
>
>Nathan Rozentals,  Durban SA.

I think I saw that article but it was a few issues ago.  Basically, the
guy going over the lip was somewhat inexperienced but not hurt, and the guy
riding the tube was very experienced (and mellow) and also not hurt.
As far as worst wipeouts go, mine was on a sponge.  It was at Francis
state beach (in Half Moon Bay) the day of the big fire in Oakland last
October.  The waves were really clean and hollow (I suspect there was
a really good offshore because of the fires), maybe head high,
but closing out, and it was getting towards low tide so they were 
churning up the bottom.  It was going to be my last ride, I was a 
little tired and obviously not focusing like I should have.  I took
the wave and was well in the tube when it closed on me, and in an
instant I got spun around and dropped head first into the sandy bottom.
It was quite painful, I hit the bottom with lower part of my face
and the rest of my body above me.  This not only gave me a bloody nose 
but also sprained my neck, when I came up I was glad to find out 
that all my body parts were functioning (but not too happy about 
the blood gushing from my face in these shark infested waters).  
That's it, "man gets tubed, sprains his neck, story at eleven",
not enough to make the news, I'm sure there are people 
with much more dramatic stories out there.

- leo
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920)
Subject: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:48:07 GMT

About a month ago I rented "Point Break" and ever since I can't get surfing
out of my head.  When I stumbled on this group I lurked for a while and
decided to ask a couple of questions:

Is surfing truly different from other sports?  Is there Something More to it
than just paddlin' out into the surf and ridin' back in?

Is it possible to dump your sappy eastern US, software designer job, go out
to surf mecca and live like a native for the rest of you life?

Bottom line.  How does surfing affect the inner man?  Or does it at all?

KimmyD
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff)
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:08:25 GMT


In article <22903@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes 74-35 x65129) writes:
> In article <1992Aug15.230007.122@massey.ac.nz> P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson) w
> 
> BTW, the water was off limits from Dockwiler (sp?) to Venice this last 
> weekend (at least on Sat).  High bacteria counts.  Source: Balona Creek
> (but, suposidly not due to known treatment plants).
> 
> The Santa Monica bay is notoreous for sewage spills.  The Hyperion (between,
> Dockwiler and El Porto) sewage treatment plant overflows atleast once a
> year due to rain.
> 
> Well, who knows...maybe I'll catch a sinus infection this afternoon. :(
> 
> Brian
> 
> -- 
> | Brian Hayes		| "One person's requirement is another	|
> | (310) 616-5129	|  person's design." - I.A.Pirbahi	|
> | hayes@hac2arpa.hac.com| <standard disclaimer here>		|

Is it safe to say, then that LA surfers often can't surf for shit?
:) :) :)

--
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Andrew is on the WAY (Hurricane #1)
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

The national weather service has anounced that the first named storm
of the Atlantic hurricane season has formed. "Andrew" is still out to sea
but if we are good little surfers, maybe the surf gods will send him
our way.

   O
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833       Sometimes the truth is hidden,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil         Like a shadow in the darkness.
  /     David Taylor Model Basin                  -Master Po
   \___________________________
			     \\
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Where is Hossegor?
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:34:41 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts) writes:

>In article <1992Aug11.144543.27941@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:


>(Stuff about hossegor deleted)

>>great, but in general it's overated.  It can't handle a big swell,

>I beg to differ. I've seen hossegor breaking at 3-4 times overhead.
>The only person out was Gary Elkerton. The previous day I surfed it

>Mike (A Brit in Yank land)

Tell us more about the big-wave exploits you observed of Kong.
I want to know.
N.
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:03:38 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <23788@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>->>Is it safe to say, then that LA surfers often can't surf for shit?
>->>:) :) :)
>->Chris
>
>Chris ma man,
>  A joke man, a joke!  Sewage spills....surf like "shit" Do you get it now.
>

OOPS! How embarassing!  I didn't get it. SHIT!

By the way, I did get some good waves today.  Croyde was about shoulder to
head high stone glass, the sun was out and I had a peak all to myself.

HA! HA!

Chris
From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: alt.waves
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:20:20 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia

In article <1992Aug14.182133.28159@cco.caltech.edu> aksurf.caltech.edu (Calif. Inst. Techn.) writes:
>Hi guys,
>

 Stuff about alt.waves deleted

>A-propos waves, how come doesn't anybody post surf reports? 
>I mean, after you guys go surfing, why don't you post the conditions 
>you found. And I mean, in a format that could be useful to someone 
>else, not just stories about dolphins and poetry. This is not to
>say that these stories are not nice. On the contrary. But we should
>make use of this newsgroup to exchange information on surf
>conditions, and surf forcasts. 


Speaking of surf report's, it was that very topic that got this group off
the ground, so to speak, a few of years back, there would be maybe one or
two post`s a week, if you were lucky.
Then Scott Thomas (are you still out there Scott ? ) came up with the
surf report Idea, and a suggested format, and that really got the ball
rolling.
The report's used to be quite prolific, but seem to have died down
slowly.

The surf reports from Bells are scarce as the waves this winter have been
pretty scarce, worst winter, and autumn for that matter that I can
remember for 25 years, and I'm getting a little lazy :-).
I still check Bell's out every morning, but with so many post`s to read

there`s not enough time to post a report :-).

I'll post a report in the original Scott Thomas format, and perhaps all
the new reader's/posters to the group can run with the idea again.

WE have been getting maybe one or two decent swells a month, where
normally the swell over winter rarely drops below waist to head high, with
decent swells on top of that.

>Finally, regarding surf forcasts, I thought the information 
>posted by various aussies (I forgot who) on surf forcasting was 
>quite useful. Only as far as weather maps are concerned, 
>the FAX maps off short wave radios are supposed to cover 
>the whole world. So these maps, together with the info from
>the Aussies, one could really get into it.
>
>So keep posting info on surf forcasting. This stuff is getting
>interesting.
>
>                           Axman
>

Re the surf forecasting, I'm trying to throw all that stuff on forecasting
together in a program that runs on an ibm PC with VGA display, it's pretty
crude, but at the moment I have a rough map of Australia on the screen,
and by typing in some crude weather details, I can watch a swell train
move across from the southern ocean and wrap in at Bell's :-).

If it ever gets to the stage of successfully predicting some surf I'll
make it available to the net, for a price of course :-).


Cheer's all, keep surfing,
Lud.


PS. here is that original surf report format from Scott Thomas.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date:
Time:
Area:		
Weather:
Winds:
Air temp:
Water temp:
Surf:

Forecast:

Comments:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cclrt@bristol.ac.uk (Luke Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Where is Hossegor?
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:41:37 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Aug11.144543.27941@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>In article <23463@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>>The subject line says it all. Where is Hossegor?
>>
>
>It's a beach town in southwest France.  It's usually used to refer
>to any of the surf spots in the Capreton, Hossegor, and oops! I forget
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the other area.  Surf magazines like to hype the place up and it can get
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Chris


I think the missing spot is Lacanau.

Your article was pretty much spot-on, except to say that most of the
breaks are sand rather than reef. Also, as with most Northern Hemisphere
breaks, September is the best time to surf (warm water, good swell).

cheers,

Luke.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum)
Subject: Re: Bad news for East Coasters
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:35:47 GMT

In article <l8hhteINNl7t@cronkite> p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics) writes:
>In article <23487@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>
>	Brian,
>
>	What's the Spanish word for "sea-snakes"...??!! *;^)
>
>kp

The direct translation is "viboras del mar".  The spanish word you really
want to know though is "tiburon", you won't make too many nintendo points
at baja without that little tid bit. :-)

- leo