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From: gareth@bcsaic.boeing.com (Gareth Beale)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Santa Clara info
Keywords: rental rides
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:06:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

I will be in Santa Clara for two weeks for a class starting Nov 9.  My
employer is too inflexible to fly me home for the intervening weekend.
I thought I might rent a bike and do a day trip or two.  

Can anybody recommend a bike rental place in the area, and some rides?
I'm not especially looking for off-road.  I will have a rental car, so
I could get to the coast, Santa Cruz maybe.

Please email direct, no need to use up everybody's disk space.

Gareth.

Gareth Beale (206)865-5375  #
Mail Stop 7A-35             #  e-mail:
Boeing Computer Services    #  gfb@sdc.boeing.com
P.O. Box 24346              #  or:
Seattle, Wa. 98124-0346     #  gfb%sdc@atc.boeing.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward)
Subject: Re: Broken cogs
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:23:27 GMT

jimd@pequod.gvg.tek.com (Jim Delwiche) writes:

>In article <0dYq02Eg29fH01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> msw10@nepenthe.as writes:

>>
>>Geez. I've *never* heard of anyone breaking cog teeth. Do you have 
>>bionic legs or just crash a lot? ;)
>>

>I've broken cog teeth.  Old Suntour Winner 5spd freewheels.  It's not a real
>fun thing to have happen.

I've done it too.  Shitmono 6sp freewheel.  No it's not fun, but, was
kinda funny.  It was real muddy and I couldn't figure out why my shifting
when to hell, at first I thought it was the mud.  Then I took a closer 
look..."Holy Sh*t, look at this!" I had a big cunk missing out of a 
larger cog.  I was crashing alot at this point in making the switch to
MTB, but, I don't think that had anything to do with the cog breaking.
Just the age of the cog...it was a used bike.

ward

>Jim
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles
From: gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu (Gregory D. Surbeck)
Subject: Re: emergency flat repair observed
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:22:39 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

I got stuck once  with a blown tube and a ripped sidewall about a mile
or 2 out.  Luckily someone had left pollution -- a milk bottle.  We
cut some of the plastic and inserted it between the tire and the tube.
This post is not to celebrate garbage but rather to recommend that one
take a little piece of milk bottle (say a 1" x 1" square).  Won't add
any weight and it might help.
From: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Specialized M-2
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:37:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

I am planning on buying a Specialized M-2 and I was wondering if any one can
tell me about the bike. what kind of frame is it what are the best components
to buy it with.  And does any body have and races in mountain bike races and
also how do you compare the ride to other bikes.

What is the best computer for the money I heard the Vetta C-20 is a good 
computer for the money does it have cadence? what are people's opoinion
on it and other computers.


Can any body tell me what are the best suspension shocks for a mountain bike

what is your opinion on the Scott Shocks spring controlled, is it worth it
or should I spend 300+ on a oil air air shock . please any send me a responce


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: J105270@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Stands His Ground!
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:47:09 GMT

So am I the only one who finds it rude cross post all thes "dave Harvey"
stories and replies (rhetorical).
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.racing,rec.b
From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Stands His Ground!
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:55:16 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   09 Nov 92 02:09:35 GMT
>FROM:   Dave Hill Harvey <dharvey@lemond.harvey.com>
>
>jbrandt@hplredHPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt) writes:
>
>%I never got much entertainment out of the old "Dave Harvey" series and
>%the new offering doesn't look much better.
>Therapy is right, you California girly-man. If I ever meet you on the upside
>of a hill, you will be begging your shrink to tell you you're still a man.
[etc.]

Stop! Stop! I laughed so hard at this that I think I may have done
myself an injury. Anytime Dave wants to run for public office, he can be
sure of my vote.

--Michael Smith


From: jbrandt@hplredHPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:03:25 GMT
Subject: Reflective Tape
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc

Steve Law writes:

>  Not necessarily.  That's why reflectors have all those facets so
>  they can reflect in many directions.  A good one shouldn't have a
>  narrow angle of reflection at all.

I think there is a misunderstanding of a reflector.  In fact these
devices are "retro-reflectors" that return light back to its source,
or very nearly so.  Most objects are reflectors or we couldn't see
them only by external illumination.  The feature of retro-reflectors
is that they don't scatter light but return it to a small zone
surrounding the source.

The many facets in a plastic reflector are tetrahedral or what is
commonly called a "cube corner" pattern.  The cube corner has three
sides mutually perpendicular as though the corner of a glass cube had
been cleanly cut off.  The face is an equilateral triangle that
permits a close packed hexagonal pattern.  If the sides are purposely
slightly off of 90 degrees from on another, dispersion can be
achieved.  For most plastic reflectors this is already caused by
distortion.  Of course Scotchlite (TM) uses glass beads and is also a
retro-reflector and you will notice that a car headlight on the back
of a bike in the curb lane reflects no appreciable light to the
pedestrian on the sidewalk.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
From: jbrandt@hplredHPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 02:52:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Bikist Takes Revenge For a Change
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc

I never got much entertainment out of the old "Dave Harvey" series and
the new offering doesn't look much better.  The whole concept of
retribution, even if only a fantasy, is not a healthy pursuit.  It
goes with the "Terminator" mentality, where violence gives some kind
of therapeutic relief for social angst.

If getting even with cars and other motorized vehicles is perceived as
a worthwhile endeavor, it might be best to not ride a bicycle because
this is a hopeless battle if undertaken in a destructive manner.  I
don't need any more bicycle activists demanding equal space on my
streets.  The local anti bike people already have enough reasons to
get pissed off at all bicyclists.  Dave Hrvey fables as Dick Tracy's
machine gun justice isn't good entertainment.  It's sick humor.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
From: henniss@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kathryn Henniss)
Subject: Re: Bikist Takes Revenge For a Change
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:47:10 GMT

In article <21.1992.LID@lemond.harvey.com> dharvey@lemond.harvey.com 
(Dave "Hill" Harvey) writes:
...
>Nice and smooth, so I don't look dangerous, I pull my Zefal out of the
>brackets and into the "ready" position. I ease over and when the dweebus
>comes by I give him a righteous whack on the left rear quarter-panel. Three
>hundred dollars worth of paint job, if it's a penny.
>

Touche'!  Shades of Spike Bike.  We miss you, Spike!

Kat
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: dinsmm@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Michael Dinsmore)
Subject: Re: New Bike (Mt. Bike?) Magazine
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:58:19 GMT

For those interested in getting a MTN BIKE magazine I have
had an experince that you might find interesting.  
I have a subscription to Bicycling Plus Mtn Bike.  I got the
substcription in July.  At the end of July or early August I
sent them a letter telling them I have a change of address starting
in September (moving to college).  I received my August issue.
But, since I have been at college I have not received even ONE
issue of my magazine.  About a month and some ago I called them 
and told them about the problem.  They said they would fix it and     
send me out my missing issue.  They sent out the Bicycling magazine,
but not the Bicycling Plus Mtn Bike magazine (for which I paid quite
a bit more for than just the Bicycling mag).  I called them a second 
time explaining their error to them and they said they will fix it and
send me out the correct magazine this time.  Again they just sent out
the basic Bicycling magazine.  I called them a third time and told them
about all the previous calls I had made and how nobody was getting
the correct magazine sent to me.  They said they can't understand how it
happened and will fix it right away and send me my Bicycling Plus Mtn 
Bike magazine.  Again they sent the incorrect magazine.  I now had
three (3) copies of the same magazine and none of them was the one that
I wanted and paid for - I just wanted the Bicycling PLUS MTN BIKE.
So I called a FOURTH (4) time and told them the whole story once more.
By this time it takes a while to explain this to the person and they say
the same things all the previous people said.  The last time I called them     
was two weeks ago and I haven't received anything from them yet.
What irks me the most is that they never said sorry or anything.  They 
did nothing to try to apologize to me.   The service that I have received
from them has been very, very, very bad.  So if you are looking for a 
mtn biking magazine to get, I recommend that you stay away from 
Bicycling's version.  It's just like vaporware.....

Regards,

    ___  ___    
   /  |\/  |\  Michael Dinsmore
  /   |/   ||  dinsmm@rpi.edu
 / /|   /| ||  Michael_Dinsmore@MTS.RPI.EDU
/_/ |__/ |_||  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
\_\/\__\/\_\|  Computer and Systems Engineering  
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles.misc:1259 rec.bicycles.soc:984
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Subject: Re: UHHH, Good God Y'all
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.misc
Date: 13 Nov 1992 18:33:35 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <25.1992.LID@lemond.harvey.com> dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey) writes:
>I must admit that I, too, have difficulty
>finding reasons to read rec.bicycles. When all these well-meaning folks
>were suggesting that rec.bicycles be split into six (!) different groups
>it was yours truly, Dave Harvey, the lone voice of reason, who suggested
>not having any bicycle groups at all, including rec.bicycles.

   How true.  The worst thing is needing six killfiles for
Mr. BRANDT_JOBST.  With no bicycle groups, I wouldn't need
*any*!
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: re: merits of hypothetical $3000 bikes
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:53:50 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Further to the arguments about $3000 bikes and klunkers,  I thought I'd
add the following.

I started semi-competitive cycling during university,  where I still am,
and so have only been able to afford a 10 year old racer.  Chrom-alloy
frame,  mavic rims,  and Shimano 600 friction-shift gears.  My gear ratio
is too wide,  my chain is stretched,  the frame is too short,  the headset's
permanently loose.  All I can afford to do is keep the tyres fresh.

BUT!  Whenever I go in a weekend race,  charity or otherwise,  I can always
finish with or near the front bunch and then sit around and watch guys come
in on their Cannondales,  Treks,  Peugots etc 1/2 hour after me.

Only when the riders are equal in skill,  strength,  fitness and tactics does
the bike play such a large part in the end result (although someone's bound to
come up with extreme examples to counter this).

Jonathan.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc

Real life is strange than fiction:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
From the SF Chronicle by Pamela Burdman, 3 Nov 92

In a sense suitable for a Charles Bronson movie, a late-night bicyclist
in San Francisco fired a salvo of bullets at three men allegedly
trying to rob him and then vanished before one of the men was found
dead at the wheel of a car, police said yesterday.

According to officers, who pieced the story together from accounts by
witnesses and two surviving suspects, the bike rider was pedaling
along Broadway in Pacific Heights at 1 a.m. when three young men
knocked him to the pavement near the intersection of Laguna Street.

The rider, described by police as an Asian or white man in his 20s
--jumped up, whipped out a small-caliber, semi-automatic pistol and
began shooting at his tormentors, police said.

The bicyclist wounded at least two of the alleged attackers, who were
unarmed.  As the bullets whizzed at them, the three ran, the police
said.

The startled suspects fled to their car, roared down the steep pitch
of Laguna Street and crashed into a parked car near the bottom of the
hill.

The driver, identified as Fernando Ramirez, 20, of Daly City, was dead
at the scene.  Homicide Lieutenant Bruce Lorin said Ramirez had been
shot by the bicyclist, but it was not known whether his death was
caused by gunshot wounds or the collision.

The bicyclist took off on foot on Broadway, leaving his bicycle
behind.  Police are asking him to contact homicide inspectors to
discuss the events.  Lorin said he "has a right to defend himself" but
he could be charged with carrying a concealed weapon, a misdemeanor.

Police said they plan to interview neighbors in nearby apartment
buildings who were probably roused by the commotion and gunfire.

The strange episode did not end with the shooting.  Shortly afterward,
two men drove up in a brown Ford Pinto station wagon.  After
attempting to help the three assailants, they drove up the hill, took
the bicycle and drove off.

The two wounded suspects, both 18-year-old men from Daly City, have
been charged with attempted robbery.  Because their alleged accomplice
died, they are also being charged with his death.

Police said they are withholding the names of the suspects until their
families can be notified of their injuries.  One had a bullet wound in
the arm, and the other suffered cuts to his face in the crash.

The police have also asked the drivers of the Pinto to come forward.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: tomd@netcom.com (Tom Dempster)
Subject: Re: IPS: Zimbabwe: Cycling to Promote Family Planning
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:58:29 GMT

: but critics of the znfpc, including the catholics who
: constitute about 12 percent of the country's about 11 million
: people, see the population control programme as western-induced
: and immoral.
      ^^^^^^^
Overpopulation & suffering from malnutrition however is not immoral.
 
: ''the way they go about this population control reminds me
: of pest control. it is too inhuman'', father oskar wermter,
: secretary for social communications of the zimbabwe catholic
: bishops conference, told ips.
: 
: ''in the catholic church, we believe parents should be
					       ^^^^^^^^^
: responsible for the control of the family size and not the
: government or international agencies breathing down on them'',
: he explains.
: 
: the catholic church, wermter says, teaches couples to use
: natural methods. modern family planning places the burden on the
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: woman alone, he adds.

World population figures attest to the overwealming success of these
*natural methods* 

: zinanga disagrees. ''both husband and wife are involved. more
: people are now coming to find out more about vasectomy, which
                                               ^^^^^^^^^
: used to be a culturally no-go to be culturally a no-go area.
:
Perhaps some devoted catholics can explain to us just how it is that
vasectomy constitutes "modern family planning...burden on the woman
alone.." (from above)

: this year alone, the znfpc has distributed 10 million
: condomns throughout the country, the bulk of them to men, says zinanga.  

Go ahead & flame. Somehow it seems that Sinead Oconner (sp) was right.
From: jbrandt@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:11:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Where to get Reflective Tape?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc

Steve Law writes:

>  Not necessarily.  That's why reflectors have all those facets so
>  they can reflect in many directions.  A good one shouldn't have a
>  narrow angle of reflection at all.

I think there is a misunderstanding of a reflector.  In fact these
devices are "retro-reflectors" that return light back to its source,
or very nearly so.  Most objects are reflectors or we couldn't see
them only by external illumination.  The feature of retro-reflectors
is that they don't scatter light but return it to a small zone
surrounding the source.

The many facets in a plastic reflector are tetrahedral or what is
commonly called a "cube corner" pattern.  The cube corner has three
sides mutually perpendicular as though the corner of a glass cube had
been cleanly cut off.  The face is an equilateral triangle that
permits a close packed hexagonal pattern.  If the sides are purposely
slightly off of 90 degrees from on another, dispersion can be
achieved.  For most plastic reflectors this is already caused by
distortion.  Of course Scotchlite (TM) uses glass beads and is also a
retro-reflector and you will notice that a car headlight on the back
of a bike in the curb lane reflects no appreciable light to the
pedestrian on the sidewalk.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.rides,soc.women,soc.men
From: mac4@cec1.wustl.edu (Miguel Angel Cotignola)
Subject: Help
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:06:27 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.bicicles.marketplace
Subject: Help
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Keywords: 

Hello:

I am a student a Washington Univ. at St. Louis, we just created the W.U.
Mountain Bike and we are looking for a cool designg or picture for the shirts.
Therefore if you have a design or a picture or something else, please send to
me.  We cannot pay, because we have no money from school at for this year.  But
I promised if we choose something from what you send you will get at leat a
free shirt.

					Thank you very much
					Miguel

	address: Miguel A. Cotignola
		6515 Wydown Box 3777
		St. Louis, MO, 63105

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: saj@b15.ingr.com (Steve Jernigan)
Subject: Bicycle crankset for sale (Dura Ace)
Keywords: bicycle, crankset, Dura Ace, For sale
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:53:39 GMT




	FOR SALE : 177.5 mm Dura Ace crankset (53/42 chainrings)

	Using very little on a time trial bike, in very good condition.

	Asking $100.00 or trade for a set of 172.5mm cranks


	WANTED : 172.5 mm crankset


	Please reply through email to saj@e3171.b17c.ingr.com

	Huntsville, AL
From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: merits of hypothetical $3000 bikes
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:20:07 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <BxEJAA.19n@acsu.buffalo.edu> jtyl@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BJ) writes:
>>>yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>>Also, to the intelligent bike thief (if there is such an animal) the
>>brand new $3000 bike is more attractive than the $700 bike or the $100
>>klunker.
>
>
>Now, *what* would YOU do with a $3000 bike that you think you will
>get out of this?  Why would you want it?
>
>>If you must know, I ride a $100 klunker.
>
>That's nice.  Am I suppose to be impressed?

You are obviously missing one of the senses that is required
to understand my previous post.

A sense of humor. ;-)

-- 
 Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
 From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Subject: Re: How to stay upright on ice
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.misc
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 01:17:44 GMT

praetzel@maxwell.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel) writes:
>[Use a sidecar to stay upright.]

I saw an ad for a local place that makes bicycle sidecars.  They lean
with the bicycle.  Carries the load, but won't do you a damn bit of
good on the ice.

Digression:

For me, the worst time is when there is mixed ice and clean pavement.
You can't rely on traction, but you can't rely on being able to slide,
either.  A few years ago I was going around a turn I *thought* was all
ice, two wheels and a foot on the ground.  Suddenly the wheels caught
traction and I high-sided -- but fortunately I got my other foot down
on the ice and continued sliding around the corner, albeit with one
foot flopping in the breeze.

	;-D on  ( An upstanding downfalling citizen )  Pardo
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Just a Technical Point
Followup-To: soc.singles,alt.sex,talk.abortion
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:54:18 GMT

ndallen@r-node.gts.org (Nigel Allen) writes:
] The following message was oriuginally posted in the
] soc.culture.african newsgroup by
] barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
] 
] Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
] print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.
] 
] Title: ZIMBABWE: CYCLING TO PROMOTE FAMILY PLANNING

Once Upon a time i was a part of a the 'pit crew'
for a Cat IV racer....

{if anyone sees mark schroeder out in Hawaii, say HI! for me.}

And it was there that I learned from one female
centurian rider, that cycling had changed the
frequency of, uhhhm... , sexual encounters....

It seems Clear to me that, well, cycling 
should not be used, by itself, as a contraceptive method....

ciao
drieux



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