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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:11:41 GMT

rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

>>Personaly, I have to say that I think a DSN subgroup would be good.  Granted
>>that DSN is part of startrek, but there *is* a higher than normal volume.

>I would estimate that at most 10% of r.a.s.c is used for discussing DS9, and
>less of r.a.s.m.

Hmm, I think a little more than 10% (like 30-40%)

>>There is as much about DSN as there is about STTNG and STTOS.  TOS has
>>limited discussion in here, and TNG seems to be the main topic.  Splitting
>>DSN off I think would eliminate alot of the noise from DSN readers.

>How many people are reading only information about DS9, and none at all about
>TNG, I wonder?  And why aren't they using nn with auto-select on "DSN" and
>"DS9", which is by far the most efficient approach to picking out those
>articles?

	I say leave it all in one. Soon the DSN level will become less of a
problem and this is more all trek, not just TNG or TOS. We don't
need a seprate DSN group

			CtB

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: model colours
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 26 Dec 92 22:05:46 EST

Hi all.  I just got the Star Trek: The Next Generation U.S.S.
Enterprise-D model from AMT-ERTL (stock no. 6619) and would like to know
the correct paint colour for it.  The instruction manual says that it is
"...molded in color so painting is not necessary.".  However, I would
like to paint it.  I can't identify by eye what colour it is molded in,
but if somebody (perhaps from AMT-ERTL) knows could they please tell me
what the colour is?  I, personally, would like to re-paint the model
even though it is "...molded in color...".  Any help would be
appreciated.  Thank you!


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From: roth@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de (Daniel Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG-episodes no longer in ZDF (german TV)
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:50:53
Organization: Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne, F. R.
	Germany
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A bad message for the German  Star Trek - The Next Generation - Fans:

Contrary to the posted messages a few weeks ago the 2nd German Television
(ZDF) does not continue with broadcasting TNG (Raumschiff Enterprise
           ------------
- Das naechste Jahrhundert = Starship Enterprise - The next century)
except for the 16 episodes which are already bought. In the next lines
I quote a letter which ZDF has written me:

QUOTE ON
Von der vorgenannten Serie haben wir insgesamt 83 Episoden erworben.
Die noch ausstehenden 16 Folgen werden 1993 gesendet; allerdings steht
hierfuer noch kein Ausstrahlungstermin fest. Wir werden die Daten aber
rechtzeitig in der Programmpresse und unserer Vorschau bekanntgeben.

Eine Fortsetzung darueber hinaus wird es aber nicht geben, da wir keine
weiteren Episoden angekauft haben. Die Entscheidung ber die Fortsetzung
eines Programms muss innerhalb der Gesamtplanung des ZDF und im Hinblick
auf einen leider nicht unbegrenzten Jahresetat getroffen werden. Um neue
Serienprojekte zu realisieren ist es deshalb leider nicht zu vermeiden,
auf die moegliche Fortsetzung manch aelterer Programme zu verzichten. Von
dieser auch fr die Programmplaner unangenehmen Entscheidung ist keineswegs
nur die Serie "Raumschiff Enterprise - Das naechste Jahrhundert"
betroffen. Wir denken und hoffen jedoch, dass das ZDF die treue Gemeinde
der "Trekkies" mit immerhin 83 Folgen nicht vernachlaessigt oder gar
uebergangen hat.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen i.A. S. Koegel
QUOTE OFF

Every TNG-fan should write a protest-letter to the ZDF. The address is:

ZDF
Zuschauerredaktion
ZDF-Strasse 1
D-W 6500 Mainz 31
Germany

I think that we could change the decision if every german fan reading
this here spents 1 DM and 10 minutes for writing a letter!!

Daniel Roth - roth@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de

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From: corsair@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Gregory Pius)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star trek video promotion for sale...
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:15:32 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Before anybody says anything, I've already posted this to misc.forsale.
Somebody reccomended I post it here as well.

STAR TREK V: The Final Frontier video promotion for sale

You get:

* a full size cardboard cutout of Big Bill Shatner holding a copy of the
  tape.
* a really nice cutout of the Enterprise -A.
* Some really nice artwork from the film
* A Star Trek V Videocassette Promotional poster.

Direct all offers, flames, etc. to

greg@metrolink.com

(don't reply here!)


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From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Troi Action Figures
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.975
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:54:35 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

 
Apparently the Troi figure is out.  They are all numbered on the foot.
 
A local dealer was able to locate 20 of them; and promptly sold them all
to a dealer in California for $275  EACH.
 
Good Luck, Dave.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Help! Missed last TNG episode...
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:15:19 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec21.152212.66181@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pkz0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER K. ZEITLER) writes:
<Yikes..busy end of semester, kids fooling with the controls of our awkward
<TV-converter box-VCR pile...Anyway, _twice_ we missed the first epsiode of
<"Chans of Command". Does anyone know if and when this episode might be aired
<again in the Philadelpia/New York area?

My guess is that it should air again in April.
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From: HADCUJEK@admin.uh.edu (Julia E. Kosatka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Creeping Phrases
Date: 28 Dec 1992 04:23:52 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Support Services
Distribution: world
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X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

My husband and I noticed today that certain Trek related phrases have crept 
into our private (as opposed to professional :-)) vocabularies.  For example:

If someone doesn't do something they were supposed to, you tell them that
they are 'not of the body'.

People are sometimes 'Herbert', but cats *always* 'reach'. :-)

To indicate a particularly bad day at work (kinda like the Bills are having
against the Oilers right now) you'd say 'beaten and sobbing Finney told 
me...' and go into the gory details.  (Scott can't decide if he wants 
'Finney' or 'Bundy' for a vanity plate -- I'm holding out for YUFFIE). :-)

Anybody got any others?

Since this is the last week before DS9 (or DSN) starts, this may be our 
last official chance to start a 'duncel' thread.  :-)
From: st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: I have the TROI action figure!
Date: 24 Dec 1992 13:34 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I finally have the TROI action figure.  One of my friends who works at
Toys 'R' Us started seeing them pop up.  He said they are about two TROI
figures in every case of Trek figures.  He got the one Troi for me and the
Toys 'R' Us manager kept the other Troi figure for himself.
From: sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Matter of Life and Death!
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:15:24 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


Hello all:

I'm really sorry to intrude on you like this with a silly question,
but a friend of mine has been insisting that a prominent member of
the old Star Trek cast died about a month ago, and that in fact it
was Shatner!  I could not believe him, and I still don't, given that
much more noise would have been made had he died.  But the guy seemed
just darn certain and sure of himself and he was willing to put twenty
dollars on the line behind his claim.  Can anyone settle this dispute
between us, one way or the other and once and for all?

Thanks.
From: IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jon Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worf in ST6?
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:15:54 GMT
 <alix.726033533@vincent2.iastate.edu>
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <alix.726033533@vincent2.iastate.edu>, alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy)
says:
>
>In <1993Jan2.230619.12806@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Eileen.Heady@dartmouth.edu
>(Eileen Heady) writes:
>
>>The Klingon who defends Kirk and McCoy in the Undiscovered Country
>>looks like (I'm almost sure it was him)  Michael Dorn...is he supposed
>>to be a relative of Worf's or did they just use Dorn for the part
>>because it was easier to make him up?
>
>Yes, that is Michael Dorn, and the klingon he is playing is Worf's
>grandfather.
>I can't remember his character's name, but I'm sure _someone_ will supply it
>for you.

Michael Dorn's character in ST6:TUC was indeed Lt. Worf's grandfather
(the father of Mog (Moog?), Worf's father who was blaimed for the
Kittimer massacre)  His name was also Worf (Colonel Worf).  I assume
Worf is their family name and Mog (Moog?) was Worf's father's fist name?


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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Frontier
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 20:29:25 EST

In article <lv39174@pro-amber.cts.com>
keith@pro-amber.cts.com (Robert Davis) writes:
 
>
>Will,
>I thought you would like to receive input from someone who writes fan
>fiction (original Trek).  I tend to ignore most of the X-rated zines, and
>my opinion of those stories you mention (called K/S) could only be
>reproduced here in expletives.  Admittedly I am more conservative than
>most, but the idea of Kirk and Spock having such a relationship seems to me
>beyond imagination.  I have great respect for Kirk and Spock's friendship
>and make every effort to treat them as such in my stories.  There ARE
>actually good Classic Trek zines out there, even though the trashy ones are
>the most obvious because there are more of them.  I hope you are able to
>find some of THEM.
 
   Having lived half my life in the US, and half in Korea, I'm really
amazed by American (perhaps Western) ideas of "close" friendships.
It almost seems taken for granted in US that if two men or two women are very
close friends, (closer than, say, their spouses), there has to be some
explicit or unconscious homosexual attraction between the two; while in Korea
it is usually taken for granted that these two share a platonic friendship;
that there are non-sexual ties that only people of the same gender can share.
   Oh well, I'm sure that there are some pseudo-psychologists and literature
students who will say that all "platonic" friendship is actually a hidden
homosexual relationship...
 
                              Junsok Yang
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Broadcast windows for ST:TNG and ST:DS9
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec26.3244.5785@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
<
<  -=> Vidiot babbled to All and look what he said! <=-
<
< Vi> The broadcast windows for TNG and DS9 are totally different.  This
< Vi> window includes the initial airing of an episode and the replay of the
< Vi> same episode. For TNG, it is a two-week window, that includes the
< Vi> 7-10pm Sunday time slot. The Sunday time slot is the same weekend as
< Vi> the update. 
<
<What the heck's a "window"?  Two-week window for TNG???  I don't get
<it...

In the world of syndication, a "window" is the amount of time the station is
allowed to air the program.  In the case for ST:TNG, the window starts on the
Sunday of the weekend of the uplink (7 - 10pm) and lasts for a total of two
weeks.  This window includes both airings, if your station airs an episode
twice.

For ST:DS9 and The Untouchables, the window is only one week long and starts
on the Monday following the weekend uplink.
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Star Fleet Battles
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:42:05 GMT

In article <jmconnel.1@oregon.uoregon.edu> jmconnel@oregon.uoregon.edu (John M. McConnell) writes:
>Does anyone know of an appropriate group for discussing the game
>Star Fleet Battles?

rec.games.board is the one.


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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: fcc regulations
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:28:24 EST

I'm NOT too sure if this applies here, but I'll give it a chance.

Up here in Canada the local Toronto station that plays TNG is a
privately owned station that plays TNG.  Two things about what it does
really bugs me, and I'd just like to know if they're allowed to do what
they're doing or not.

1) The cut out the ST:TNG jingle before commercials leaving commercial
editing sloppy.

2) The do not show the next episode promos on first run episodes.

Sure, these two complaints are probably miniscule compared to the horror
stories I've read, but I'd still just like to know.  Thanks a lot!


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Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
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From: jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau)
Subject: Attitude of Star Trek Actors (was: Avery Brooks has attitude)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:49:55 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

kuvamp@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>This was on the AP Newsnet this morning, thought it might be of interest:

>AVERY BROOKS:  DON'T LOOK FOR HIM AT TREKKIE CONVENTIONS

This article reminded me of something that happened on the Joan Rivers
show featuring the TNG cast.  Near the end of the program, Joan asks
Brent Spiner if he thinks they will be doing feature films.  Brent
gets a big grin and says, with a touch of sarcasm, "Yes, I *will* be
doing feature films!"  Everyone in the cast laughs - Marina Sirtis, in
particular, finds this hilarious: she slaps her knee and can barely
contain herself.

What occurred to me after watching this was that these actors, save
Patrick Stewart, were never destined to do more than act in TV guest
shots, perform occasionally in regional theatre, or have bit roles in
feature films.  They would earn a living as actors, but none of them
really have the talent to go to the next level.  I'm thinking of a
Robin Williams or a Sally Field or a Goldie Hawn - someone who started
on TV but really made it beyond episodic television.

But then ... they lucked into getting a series, and not just any
series, but _Star Trek_.  Their professional lives have been
transformed.  They are financially secure, probably for the rest of
their lives.  Their work is watched weekly by millions, with ratings
still going up after six years.  And, they probably will star in at
least one feature film with a built-in audience virtually guaranteeing
it a financial success.

I thought about Marina's reaction to Brent's statement and decided she
cracked up because of the irony of it all.  Before TNG, she's
struggling to get roles.  Now, she gets to negotiate her salary and
options on a hit TV show that will lead to feature films.  I think
they're all more than a little stunned, and just the *fact* of being
asked "Will you perform in films?" is something out of a dream.

As for Avery Brooks statement about not attending conventions: if DSN
is a hit (which it will be: as Scott Forbes observed a few days ago,
_Star Trek: Watching Paint Dry_ would probably run for a couple of
seasons :-), I expect he'll be up on stage answering fan questions
with the best of them.  As someone pointed out, when TNG first aired,
only Dorn would do conventions, but now they all do.  Are you kidding?
Of course they do conventions.  They've struck gold!
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Subject: Wanted: Hallmark Enterprise Ornament
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 06:48:47 GMT


I'm in the market for one or two hallmark enterprise (1991) ornaments.

Contact me at j-weiss@nwu.edu.

-- 
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j-weiss@nwu.edu    Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School
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From: mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz)
Subject: Re: star trek tng list of lis
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 04:46:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.3244.5674@dosgate>, bernie.wong@canrem.com (bernie wong) writes:
> TO: mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us

Next time, use e-mail.

> Mark, I don't know what happened but you just posted your new List of
> Lists which was supposed to be sent on the 16th but I got it on the
> 21st.

I posted the lists on the 17th. It takes about a week to reach all
the sites (except for one strange site which receives news two
weeks late). However, news jammed up again......

> Anyways, don't forget to add such important information as Picard's
> serial number!  SP-937-215.  Yes, I memorized it...  :-)

Consider it DONE!

The place I work at is shut down between the 25th and 31st, giving
me time to catch up again. Along with the local trek station
showing the older TNG episodes starting January 4th....

> BTW, how in the world were you able to catch Data's computer lock code
> from "Brothers" off the TV?  Someone have a VERY expensive VCR?

Someone captured it, transcribed it, and I copied it, issuing the
person a thank you below.

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From: Eileen.Heady@dartmouth.edu (Eileen Heady)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Worf in ST6?
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:06:19 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

The Klingon who defends Kirk and McCoy in the Undiscovered Country
looks like (I'm almost sure it was him)  Michael Dorn...is he supposed
to be a relative of Worf's or did they just use Dorn for the part
because it was easier to make him up?
From: Trebor
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: "Visit to a Weird Planet"
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:33:12 GMT
Organization: Middle Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc210-2.cl.msu.edu

In article <1992Dec18.090524.16578@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>
njzy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (T. Joseph Lazio, Cornell University) writes:
>
> I was re-reading _Star Trek:  The New Voyages_ last night.  One
> of the stories is "Visit to a Weird Planet Revisited," in which 
> Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelly get beamed on board the Enterprise 
> and mistaken for Kirk, Spock, and McCoy (some type of 
> inter-dimensional gateway or something).  All in all, it's a 
> fairly humorous story.
>
> As the name of the story suggests, this story is based on 
> a story "Visit to a Weird Planet," by J. Lorrah and H. ?.
> Does anybody know how to get one's hands on a copy of 
> VtaWP?  Thanks in advance.
>
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>
I've been looking for a copy for years. I came close once, a dealer at a con
said it was in a fanzine. I can't quite remember the name but I think it might
have been "Elith" or something that sounded similiar. He knew right away what I
wanted but didn't have any with him. Let me know if you find it. (maybe it
would be really,really,really nice if the complete story is found if someone
could post it on the net)

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