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From: news@tamsun.tamu.edu (Read News)
Subject: Re: Camper van Beethoven spinoffs
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:36:41 GMT

In article <1aqv7kINNmt2@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> reeder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Gregory L Reeder) writes:
>I started listening to Camper van Beethoven a while ago and am wondering how     Crackers and Monks of Doom sound compared to them. I know David Lowery is in    Crackers, which ex-CVB are in Monks? Also did CVB release anything besides      Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart and Key Lime Pie?
>
>                                                        Thanxx
>                                                        G-Man
okay.  
i think that cracker sounds more like later cvb.  dave lowery
gives it a sort of wry humor (almost kinda melancholy in spots, like
key lime pie.  their sound is much more country-influenced (but i like
it anyway:))  
monks of doom is (right, i can never remember this) all the other
campers from the last couple cvb albums but not morgan fichter (k.l.p's
violinist) and not johnathan segel (former violinist) either,
though he played on mod's "meridian." plus two other members.
mod has at least 3 albums, which are:
soundtrack to the film _breakfast onthe beach of deception_
cosmodemonic telegraph co (ok this isn't right but i can't remember it)
meridian (which is much easier to remember)
does anyone know of any others?
mod is more instrumental, further "out there" and more like cvb's 2nd
and 3rd albums, imho.  they are excellent musicians and i like them
very much; very complex arrangements with strange lyrics.

yes, cvb released a number of other albums besides the two you mentioned.
they are the only virgin label releases though.  other albums include

telephone free landslide victory
camper van beethoven
II and III
vampire can mating oven (an ep)
    plus they have released albums with eugene chadbourne
(camper van chadbourne)

i *know* they must have other albums--does anyone have them?
if yyou do , please email me.. thanks.

heather

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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM - sidewinder
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:19:14 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Okay okay... I apologize for my remarks say "REM's let you down, again."

I think that was a result of me being slightly, shall we say, pissed
at them. Radio station politics. Ugly stuff. Suffice it to say that
for a band that owes it's success to college radio, they have a
damn funny way of showing it...

Joshua Houk
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From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Dave Kendall
Date: 3 Oct 1992 17:18:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
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In a previous article, dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) says:

>na-rt451@andy.bgsu.edu (Ann Shea-Jipson) writes:
>
>
>>What is the deal with Dave Kendall's hair? He seems to have a descending
>>hair line or something.  I used to watch the show back in 1988, and the man
>>was bald!  I turned it on 2 months ago and there it was on top of his
>>head. It must be that Killing Joke hair restorer...
>
>
>Or maybe Dave Kendall's not just host, but also a member.
>
Could be the piece of fur that came with promo editions of PIL's last
album...

Actually, I have long held the belief that Dave is not only the president
of the Penis Club for Men, but also a client...

Sheesh. I gotta get back to work.
-- 
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From: woodwick9526@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pearl Jam
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:19:16 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep25.211028.27643@panix.com>, jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:
> In <1992Sep25.122058.7080@iscsvax.uni.edu> woodwick9526@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> 
>> Um, Kreig YOU ARE A MORON!  I started this, and you may have replyed 1st but
>>I started it.  THank you not very much.
> 
> Umm, Woodpecker YOU ARE A GEEK!  How can you lower an argument to the
> level of "No! _I_ am the one who started it..."
> 
> That's as bad as Daffy Duck in that one 'toon where he was screaming "No!
> No! No! Mine! Mine! Mine!"
> 
> Reall mature attitude.....
> 
> Drink a beer and chill out.......
> 
> Jack
> jis@panix.com

Hey Jack, I like that cartoon.  Even though Daffy shows extreme egocentrisim
and the worst case of Materialism I have ever seen.
        I would just like to thank you for refreshing my memory of my being
a Geek, since, I was jokingly called that at camp.
        And my final question, What brand of Beer should I drink?
        HOw about a Linenkeugal?
                                *Good Stuff*
                                        Woody
From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Daisy Chainsaw
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:14:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

jes2x@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (John Sommerville) writes:

>Does anybody know when Daisy Chainsaw's album "Lovesick Pleasure" is coming
>out?  I believe it's sometime in October, but I want to know exactly when. 
>Some radio stations already have it, I think.

can someone write a little more about this band, what their music is like?
I remember hearing one song on the radio and really liking it, but
I need to know a little more before I put out scarce money for a disc,
ya know?  Thanks.

Lena
always happy to read opinions/reviews
From: v134n2mc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David D Yuhnke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirvana
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep30.154351.5087@cs.ucla.edu>, cygnus@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Marshall Robin) writes...
>In article <EelRkEO00VoyAPyUtC@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael Hamilton Walker <mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>FUCKIN' A!!!!!!!!!!!
>FUCKIN' B!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKIN' C!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
>come on, try it, its fun. really.
	What can I say, I couldn't resist!  NEXT!
                   	
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: orjan@solan.unit.no (rjan L}g)
Subject: Re: New BEL CANTO disc is out for those who like 4AD Style
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 09:33:21 GMT



>Hey, get real man.
>Bel Canto stole practically EVERYTHING from Cocteau Twins.'
   

   Bel Canto hasn't stole a anything from anyone. Bel Canto 
makes music beyond the narrow limitations of genres and
styles. They are true masters in the art of turning 
acoustic, as well as electronic, instruments into 
emotional gripping rythms and melodies.
   
   Toghether with Anneli Drecker's voice, so pure, 
and opened so wide that it can barely be compacted 
into forming words(at least with my english vocabulary :-)) , 
this forms the beautiful music of Bel Canto.

   The music is longing, as a distant memory that closes your
eyes, and for a second brings the forgotten worlds of
childhood back to life. Then, when its over, leaving you
alone, unable to find the key that opened the gate to
the forgotten.

   The magazine "Melody Maker" Wrote after a concert in Paris
April this year: "You haven't heard them yet, but when you do
they will touch you like a deja vu"

....It is true ...let Bel Canto in. This treasure shouldn't
stay secret.



Jim asks in his article:
>When did Geir Jenssen leave the band?

 Geir Jenssen left Bel Canto after the release of 
Birds of passage(1990).  After that he started his solo
career under the artist name BLEEP. He released one album
("The northpole by submarine) and a bunch of 12"s. The album
is almost impossible to get here in Norway.(Can anybody out 
there help me?) Jenssen then changed name to BIOSPHERE and hase 
released some 12"s and the album "Microgravity" on the
norwegian label Origo. (I have their adress some place if 
anyone are interrested). Microgravity is REALLY good.
It is a blend of ambient techno and house, or something
like that. Buy it!!.


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: smb3565@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: The evils of Pearl Jam WAS Re: Temple of the Dog
Reply-To: smb3565@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:15:29 GMT

	I don't understand how people can say certain groups are not alternative just because they get lots of air time on radio.  These groups are saying 
things in thier music about thier views on society and life, right?  Well,     then shouldn't you want more people to listen to it, so they can understand     how you also feel.  I laughed when I heard the reason why Jane's Addiction      broke up.  Shouldn't these groups be happy that there message is getting out to more people?  

fact that so many people relate to these songs is kind of depressing."

	When, I first listened to my Nirvana _Nevermind_ album, I loved the     music, but later, my appreciation for the lyrics grew.  These lyrics really makeyou think, if you take the time to listen to them.  In no way is "Smells Like   Teen Spirit" like "Something in the Way".  

	Basically, what I am saying is, don't like an album just because it is  also popular with the trendy's.  I bet a lot of people who own these albums     can hardly name a song on the album that isn't played on the radio.

	OK, I am pretty new into this scene, but I would like to get some info   about the Screaming Trees, Mother Love Bone, etc.

					Sean
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: new address for Negativmailorderland (Re: Negativland)
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:23:18 GMT

Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:

>Finally, I'm seeking reviews of Negativland's video, _No Other
>Possibility_, if anyone would care to post or mail me thoughts on it. 
>One die-hard fan has already told me it sucks, so I'd like others'
>opinoins before I buy it. Thanks.

I only thought about half of it sucked. The first part was pretty cool, but
they used way way too much of Pastor Dick being a dick and way too little
of other stuff they could have thrown in. 

  - malcolm@wrs.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Bailter Space (Was: re Xpressway (NZ) Interview
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 28 Sep 1992 00:55:20 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Sep27.160852.11049@waikato.ac.nz>, dfong@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> For the benefit of NZ music fans around the world, this is an 
>interview with Bruce Russell, founder of Xpressway Records. 

> There is only a limited number of artists they are working with
> who they are prepared to give any consideration to. Those are the
> big five. [who are these I wonder ? Headless Chickens, Fits,
> Bailter...DF!]
>

How about The Bats, The 3D's, Headless Chickens, Straight Jacket
Fits and The Chills (or even Cake Kitchen ;-). 
(I dun-no - sorry about this, but I get quite cross as these dudes
from Bailter Space are trying to scrub together the money to get 
across the oceans.)

Speaking of Bailter Space, they played an excellent live gig last
weekend at The Venue, a mesmorising, loud floor shaking experince I will 
remember for a long time. Their album should be due out soon and they 
are in the process of making a video with no financial backing from the NZ 
On Air people. (Support band was nasty old SML - members of Head 
Like A Hole and Shihad.)
           

> If people want to hear music by Xpressway artists how should they
> go about it ?
>
> They should write to P.O.Box 85, Port Chalmers [Dunedin, New
> Zealand]. Don't sit around expecting it to turn up in a shop or
> you'll be disappointed. I guess if people can assimilate that
> then they can come to grips with what we're doing, otherwise
> they're going to to think it's all just hot air.
>
> fin
> De Fish!

I find this an interesting point as I read a readers letter to Rip
It Up complaining about how noone in the North Island (particularly
Dorkland) has heard of a lot of the lower South Island bands and
suggesting everyone should migrate down to Christchurch to see them,
as they were so 'much' better than I won't dare say it (its already
been said) then say some certain 'grunge' band/'s from Wellington 
amongest others, ha!

A bit of a joke when considering how other bands get off their arses
and go to the people. 

Speaking of new music The Nod (real thrash metal band - perhaps I should'nt 
post it here but its an alternative ;-) and Sticky Filth have both released
albums and they are available from Immahit records in New Plymouth (in
which I'll post the address a bit later on).
 

--

Red
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smiths "Higher Education"
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:00:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

the questiom i have...

does anyone have either 1) a tape from the recent morrissey tour?

or - more importantly - the smiths "attic sessions"?

i'd be willing to trade smiths live stuff or other live stuff
 for these two concerts.  the ONLY other live stuff i'm looking for
 now is wonder stuff live material.

- bob gaj
From: jdinkins@spaquatic.Eng.Sun.COM (Jeff Dinkins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirvana
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:54:17 GMT
Reply-To: jdinkins@spaquatic.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: 3-D House of Slave Chicks
NNTP-Posting-Host: spaquatic

speterse%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu writes:
> Then again, I
>suppose that if you're a Rushfan, then you just KNOW that any band
>with an MTV hit has to suck--without even listening to them.  

 Geez... by stereotyping and pigeonholing "rushfans" you are doing the
exact same thing that you claim "rushfans" are doing to "nirvanafans". 

 I just so happen to like them both, thank you very much.
  
>Then again, what can you expect from someone who only listens to
>music to prove to himself that he's smart enough to understand the
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>lyrics?  Truly pathetic.)

 I don't know anyone like that. I do, however, know people that refuse to
listen to music that they consider to have dumb lyrics because *dumb lyrics
drive them up a wall*.

 I can at least understand their position, even if I don't have that 
position myself. If someone considers Nirvana's lyrics stupid then fine -
it doesn't bother me one bit. But I do not appreciate it if they pass
judgement about me because I like their lyrics. I feel the same way about
people that catagorize "rushfans" as absolute snobs.

Have a nice day.

jeff
From: tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joe Tsai)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:12:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep30.031043.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>
>BTW, fans may be interested in knowing that I talked to 4AD this summer and
>they said that through the Reprise licensing deal _Throwing Muses_ is finally
>going to be released domestically with _Chains Changed_ tacked on, which is
>good since the latter is out of print and not available on CD anyway...
>supposedly it should be out by the end of the year.
>
>And another thing... did anyone else purchase the import of _Red Heaven_ (Best
>album since _House Tornado_ I think... blows away the deplorable _Hunkpapa_)
>with the extra CD of Kristen Hersh live? I ask because I find that the whole
>recording seems to have been pitched down flat and sounds rather strange... has
>anyone else noticed this? Or do I have a defective copy?
>
>--Kreig
>kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu

--------------------

Cool deal!  I had just posted about how to get my greedy little fanatical hands
on _Chains Changed_.  That's good news, that it's gonna be released domes-
tically now, even though I have the first 4AD on CD AND tape (total of $35!).
I don't know of too many people who have heard that album who have not been 
moved or impressed by it.  It is quite incredible.

I bout _Red Heaven_, and to tell the truth, I have not listened to it as much.
They don't sound the same without Tanya Donelly (oops -- don't know how to 
spell it); they lack the detail and intricacies that they used to have with two
guitars at once.  Oh well.  That's not gonna stop ME from seeing them again...

JJT	tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: chappy@scout.ksu.ksu.edu (Doug R. Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Stone Roses
Date: 30 Sep 1992 19:50:15 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: scout.ksu.ksu.edu

tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joe Tsai) writes:

>In article <1pkz3c=@rpi.edu> wongl@rpi.edu writes:
>>I heard that the Roses will have their new album out in the states soon
>>(its already out in Europe, i think).  Does anyone know a date that
>>it might come out on? All I know is that October is the month.
>>Keywords: 

>Yeah, I'm pretty psyched for it, too, but I'm also tired of all the false
>rumors that I've been hearing for the past 2 years.  If anyone has any
><< CONFIRMED >> info, please post pronto!

>JJT	tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

I looked in CMJ, they are have just about the soon to be releassed list that
I have seen.  They don't show anything on the Stone Roses yet.


-- 
Doug Chapman
KSDB 91.9 Manhattan, KS.
From: gbartoli@guild.socal.com (Guy Bartoli)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: fIREHOSE
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:46:43 PST
Organization: TheGuild[FTS]


        I just saw fIREHOSE about 5 weeks ago at the Palomino here in Hollywood. It was apparantly the last stop on their tour. Here is an approximate quote from Mike Watt:

"Welp, we're done with our tour. Time for us to get back into the studio, and time for me to shave off this beard. I ain't no fuckin' hippy!"

Anyways, yes, it looks like fIREHOSE will have a new album out before the end of fall. They played a couple tunes that I didn't recognize (can never tell if they are some obscure cover tune with them ;) , and if that's the sound that they will be cranking on their next disc, I can't wait!

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From: ken@bnf.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: Dream Academy (was Re: 3 song queries)
Organization: Byte & Floppy Computers
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:42:16 GMT

In <Bv3K8z.Fqw@fc.hp.com> rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean) writes:

>Timothy M. Schreyer (schrey@oak.NoSubdomain.NoDomain) wrote:
>> In article <Bv3AIF.62x@ora.com>, Jeff Robbins <jeffr@ora.com> writes:
>> |> In article <lbsqtiINNcoh@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Brian Holtz,
>> |> holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>> |> >2. Life In A Northern Town
>> |> 
>> |> 2. The Dream Academy.  Off their first album, produced by Pink Floyd's
>> |> David Gilmore.
>> |> 
>>    An excellent album.  Has anyone found this on CD?  I see one of the
>>    second one everywhere, but no first one.

>It has been discontinued sorry to say.  I've been hunting for a used
>copy for quite some time, but have never come across it.  A CD store
>owner told me there might be hope if the second (or subsequent) CD did
>better, but I don't think you'll find it new unless it's an import.

Actually, Dream Academy has released three CDs:

	Dream Academy			(has Life in a Northern Town)
	Remembrance Days
	Strange Kind of Weather		(or something like that--a friend
					has been "borrowing"
					it since the first week I had it)

There were also some EPs, most notable:

	Please, Please, Please

Most of the songs that you've heard by DA came off the eponymous album (though
there was a single and video off of the third, and I suspect that there were
singles for the second).  The songs from Ferris Beuhler, for instance, are
all on the eponymous album except for the instrumental version of Please,
Please, Please (yes, the Smiths song) which is only available on the EP
(the vocal version is also only available on the EP).

The second album is nice, but I don't like it as much as the first and third.
There were some very catchy tunes (Flatland, Forest Fire) on the third that
I'd love to hear again (if I could only get my CD back :) ).

The first album was fairly easy to find used for a while, but I think it's
hard to find now.  Try a major city...
--
ken@bnf.com
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From: jdrage@napier.uwaterloo.ca (your humble friend and narrator)
Subject: Re: Bel Canto solo works
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:56:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.122058.6466@news.uit.no> vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen) writes:
> [wealth of information about Bel Canto and Geir Jennsen deleted]

Wow!  Thanks for that fountain of knowledge RE: Bel Canto, Vidar.  I sure hope
they ARE touring right now.  It's unlikely that I'll ever get to see them here
in Canada though (sniff).  I'm going to pick up _Birds..._ and _Shimmering..._
as soon as I can -- I understand they are moving more towards a dancy genre;
my friend has _Birds..._ and says the vocals on it are phenomenal.  Is it true
that they have a single out for "Shimmering, Warm and Bright" which has a lot
of techno remixes getting a lot of airplay at clubs?  This is quite surprising
to me, as I only have _White..._.  Maybe I should keep up with the times a
little better.

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From: mm68@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Dalamar)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music
Subject: Re: Question on Pixies
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:59:20 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

I disagree. Bossanova is one of their Best. I like the other Albums, Surfa
Rosa, Doolittle, etc, but I prefer a slightly more refined sound than the
grunge (sorry only thing I could think of to describe it) of most of their
(admittedly very good) music. 

Its obviously going to be a matter of taste, but give Bossanova its due. 


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