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From: sbrown@cee.hw.ac.uk (Stuart Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Spectrum 512 Query
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:33:49 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


The Spectrum 512 art package was on the Coverdisk of ST Format last year but
the instructions they had were not very substantial and did not cover
gradient filling as demonstrated in a folder on the disk.

Does anybody know how to do gradient filling in Spectrum 512?  Is there any
other features of the program ST Format ignored which would be useful?

Replies will be most welcome.  Cheerio!

Stuart Brown.
Bsc Computer Science 2nd Year,
Heriot-Watt University,
Edinburgh,
Scotland.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech,de.comp.sys.st
From: dud@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (William F. Dudley Jr.)
Subject: homebrew SCSI Adapter? was: HELP,Weird harddisk-driver error
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:23:47 GMT

From article <1993Jan6.144119.24969@informatik.uni-bremen.de>, by ms@p111.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Martin Schroeder):
> 
> If you use the following combination of Hard- and Software:
> Seagate ST 277N 	SCSI Harddisk
> AliaSCSI 		SCSI Adapter (from c't)
> AliaSCSI V 1.6		Harddisk-driver (from c't)
> Atari 520ST+
> 
> |- Martin Schr"oder, Computer science student, University of Bremen -|
> |-------------------- L15D@ALF.ZFN.UNI-BREMEN.DE --------------------|

Excuse my American ignorance if these are silly questions:

1. Isn't c't a (hobbiest) magazine?
2. Is your SCSI Adapter (from c't) built from a published schematic,
    a kit, or what?
3. If homebrewed from a published schematic, how can I get the
    plans?  I expect that I have zero access to old issues of c't.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Dudley
AT&T Bell Labs
dud@hocpa.ho.att.com
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: NEW ATARI SUPPORT Part 2
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:57:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, richard@op.ph.ic.ac.uk (Richard Syratt) says:

>
>Well, that started off on the wrong foot.  Maybe these guys should have
>looked at an atlas before they started.  I'm talking about the registration
>form, USA isn't the only country on this planet...

The REASON that other countries were NOT included in this operation was
not because you aren't significant.  In fact, you are probably more
significant than the United States where Atari is concerned.

The problem is that the organizers of this operation have no clue as to
the current market conditions in your country.

The organizers would be stupid if they started campaigns to get Atari computers
sold in shoe stores in your country because they didn't know that they
were shoe stores to begin with.

The only way that an operation like "A.C.T. NOW" will be successful in
your country is if it is run by someone that knows what is going on
concerning Atari in your country--YOURSELF!

I would advise ANYONE interested in starting up an "Operation: A.C.T. NOW"
in your country to write the organizers in the U.S.

>
>What do atari think of this anyway?  have they been 'warned' about it?


Well, Atari KNOWS about it.  The problem is that they probably will not
get involved.

What do you think would happen if Atari actually worked with the Atari
Community?

What do you think would happen if Atari said, "Hey, we are trying to get
Atari Computers into MicroCenters and if you guys write them, maybe we can
get them in there."

What do you think would happen if Atari said, "Hey, we are trying to get
Word Perfect to write a new version for the Falcon030, if you guys write them,
maybe we can by typing on the latest of Word Perfect."

What do you think would happen if Atari said, "Hey, we are planning a major
promotion of the Falcon030 computer in MARCH of 1993 and if everyone
tells their friends about it, maybe we can make it successful."

Do you know what would happen?  We would probably help out and make the
Falcon030 a success.

The problem is that I think the company would rather go bankrupt then to ask
the Atari Community to help give one big PUSH.

>
>Richard
>

--
From: mjb@cs.nott.ac.uk (M J Brownlow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Chaos
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:45:47 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University




Before you skip this OLD subject, I'd like to say that version 1.1
is now finished! features are:

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
10 sector 80 track disk!!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Faster loading time
keypad can be used for cursor movement on foreign keyboards
engaged bug fixed
random name assignment if required
re-entry of a wizard's details if required
quit game hot(ish) key

I think that's it..it'll be on a.a and uni.ftp-kl.de tomorrow,
time permitting...
It'll probaBLY be MSA'd since LHARC gives 0% compression...
SO there!

Thanks for your time,
Martin
From: mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ATARI and US!
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:42:37 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

Don't you really HATE it when PEOPLE use capitals to (I assume?) enforce
a POINT?  It makes you wonder whether they speak like that as well,
almost shouting occasional words, visually its very irritating as well,
because I find that reading words written in capitals is, in an esoteric
kind of fashion, somewhat harder to absorb.

Anyway, I wouldn't say that the 1040STFM is an old, outdated machine, at
least not yet anyway.

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: A Bomb in the Post
Keywords: SH-204
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:32:36 GMT


I've had an SH-204 since around 86 or so and once it went south on me. The dealer
couldn't find a problem but when it was returned it had Supra formatting
software with it. I haven't had any problems since. Maybe you should try some
more recent formatting software.

Mike Healy

healy@nosc.mil
From: pm@fortec.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Mayer)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP for the ST and LAN Server
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:21:02 GMT

In <1993Jan6.172103.7842@uvm.edu> pegram@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes:

>From article <1992Dec31.212754.1@seb.se>, by s19184@seb.se (Michael Evans):
>> In article <1992Dec30.175909.2268@zooid.guild.org>, kovarski@zooid.guild.org (Mark Kovarski) writes:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone out here experiemented with TCP/IP for the Atari ST. I remember
>>> seeing a file on a german FTP site that was called, I believe, TCP_IP.LZH.
>>> How does it implement TCP/IP? Is it done via the RS-232 port? What I want
>>> to eventually do is to network my PCs with the Atari that I have.
>> 
>> I have been thinking about the same thing. I know there are Ethernet 
>> cards for various ST-models in Germany, but I think that most of them 
>> are for Megas (ie expansion bus machines).
>> 
>> The thought that struck me the other day (it did not hurt ;-) was that 
>> there are many "pocket" LAN adapters available for portable PCs. These 
>> plug onto the parallel port and supply a Token Ring or Ethernet 
>> (Thinwire or 10BaseT) connection.

>Not workable because the bidirectional parallel port commo is entirely
>different.  You would do better to look to the Mac ethernet boxes that
>can be put on the SCSI bus (assuming you have an ACSI<->SCSI Host
>Adaptor - but why bother with a network without one?)

>> Is this anything more than an old man's wild ideas?

>No, I think that with the Falcon's SCSI bus, the Mac ethernet box
>makers might be persuaded to make the necessary software available for
>all STs.  Here's hoping.

>Bob Pegram
>> 
>> /Mike
>> -- 
>> Michael Evans    Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken (S-E-Banken)
>> SEB Data R                   Telephone: +46-8-639 33 70
>> S-106 40  Stockholm                Fax: +46-8-639 37 62
>> Sweden                        Internet: mike@seb.se
>-- 
>pegram@emba.uvm.edu
>	or
>..!uvm-gen!pegram

Hi,
I just have uploaded the newest version (1.22) of our TCP/IP software
to the server sun5.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (fortec.tuwien.ac.at) today.
We use it to connect our ATARIs to SUN workstations. 
It is based upon (Ethernet) packet drivers hiding the hardware from
the IP layer, so it can easily be adapted to different ethernet cards.
At present we use Ethernet cards from Riebl Germany for our 
MegaSt and TT as well as a Dlink DE600 pocket adaptor which connects
to the cartridge port of each ST via a tiny, self-made interface 
(some small hardware could be used to connect it to the parallel
port too).
Packet driver sources (Pure-C) are included, as well as some
application programs we have written.

Peter.


--
Dipl.-Ing. Peter Mayer             fortec -  Rehabilitation Engineering Group
Institute for Electronics          University of Technology - Vienna, Austria
Email: pm@fortec.tuwien.ac.at		             phone:  +43 1 58801 3967
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Modular Macs (was: Good old Darek)
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:35:04 GMT

In article 22292@news2.cis.umn.edu, davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu () writes:
>
>The LC, LC II and IIsi are not exactly what I'd call 'modular'.

Dave, 'modular' simply means that the cpu and monitor are separate pieces, as
opposed to the all-in-one concept of the earlier Macs.

>The LC/LC II/IIsi have one slot -- and it isn't even a NuBus slot!

OK, and how many VME slots do you have on the previous MegaSTe and TT?  One,
right?  And how many VME expansion slots are there on the Falcon 030?  Zip.

>(This is the voice of experience...

Yeh, yeh... how about the voice of *reason* on the net for a change?

>The lower end Macintosh machines are no more 'upgradable' than the Mega STe or
>TT.

Really?  How long does it take you to reach the motherboard on a MegaSTe or TT?
I still have nightmares of wrestling with the shielding on my MegaSTe.  I find
it much easier to push on two tabs to lift the hood of my IIci.  

Hey, I LIKE Atari computers!  But I'll be switched if I'm going to set back in
my easy chair and sing the praises of Atari and be blind to the advances that
the "other guys" have made over the years while Atari stagnates.  It's BECAUSE
I like my Atari computers that I get so p.o.'d when I seen Atari HQ make such
stupid decisions... like their CLOSED architecture!

Howard said "you must be a moron if you think Macs are expandable."  Well, you
better go ahead and dust off my duncecap then fellas because I'd die a happy
man if my Atari was as "non-expandable" as my Mac.

---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Where can I get the TOS 2.06 upgrade code?
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:25:27 GMT

In article 726465455@ragueneau, rouellet@gel.ulaval.ca (Real Ouellet) writes:
>The subject tells it all!
>
>Do I have to call/write ATARI? Is it available on the Internet?
>

If by this you mean, "where do I get the TOS 2.06 chips?", you have to get
them from an Atari dealer or direct from Atari.  In the US, another source
has been CodeHead Technologies, but I'm sure of their availability now.
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
From: sms@sys.uea.ac.uk (Steve Sowerby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Request for RSC file format
Summary: Could I please have a copy ?
Keywords: RSC format
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:11:42 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.


	This is my second request for this...

Has anyone got a description of the Atari RSC file (i.e. resource file)
format.  I would prefer the new one but the old one (i.e. before the new
AES with colour icons etc) would be useful too.

	Replies by EMAIL please...

		Thanks,
			Steve.


- Steve Sowerby, Postgraduate layabout   (sms@sys.uea.ac.uk)
- School of Informations Systems, University of East Anglia, Norwich, England.
- # The above does not represent the University of East Anglia in any way,
-   they wouldn't notice an ST unless it was disguised as an Apple Mac  #
From: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Winnipg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: *** CAN YOU ANSWER THIS DISK DRIVE QUESTION? ***
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 16:19:32 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

      I used to have an CHINON F354 drive but it's toast so I got a
new CHINON 720k as a replacement, an FZ354. The problem :( is that it
doesn't recognize a new disk having been put in the drive(unless it's
write protected). 'ESC' won't work and the Forced Media Change program
also is a no-go.
   Question: Can this FZ354 be fixed with jumpers or is it time to
             call TEAC for a replacement?
If you need any further info, like how I have the jumpers set, say
so.
From: Gerhard_Oppenhorst@bn.maus.de (Gerhard Oppenhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RE: 1st Card
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:20:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: BN.A15156
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.16/hb

Jerrold Thompson jrt@hardy.u.washington.edu on Mo, 04.01.93 00:34:

j>I ran across an application called 1st Card about a year ago.
j>It was similar to Hyperlink, allowing data and graphics to be
j>used in a database construction.  I would be interested in
j>hearing from anyone who has had experience in using it, or
j>cross references between it and Hyperlink.
j>
j>It is also supposed to support an expert shell, which would
j>be very beneficial to the type of application I plan to write.
j>This program evidently won an award for the most innovative
j>new educational software in Aug. 1991, so it seems there should
j>be some facts about it soomewhere, and perhaps a demo??

1st Card is distributed in the US by

    ZEPHYR
    MICROWORD
    Bill Yerger
    1525 University Ave
    Berkeley
    CA 94703

    PH  (510) 845-2000
    FAX (510) 548-2119

It comes with a manual (english, 120 p.) and several demo applications.

The company who sells it in Germany (I'm the programmer) is:

    LogiLex
    Eifelstr. 32
    D-W-5300 Bonn 1
    Germany

    Tel.: +49-228-658346  (7:00 to 12:00 Middle European Time)
                          here you can reach me
    Fax.: +49-228-655548

I'm sorry, there is no international demo-version of 1st Card. But a german
demo-version is availlable (with english manual). This demo is more than 2
years old and does not have the features for sound and several other new
functions. The Full-Text-Data-Base-Modul has speeded up to find now words in
i.e. the whole bibel within 1/10 sec. But the speed was very fast also in
earlier versions.

The demo-version is only limited in the size of the applications (stacks).

If you want to have more infos or an PD-Application, please write me.


Gerhard                   ( Gerhard_Oppenhorst@bn.maus.de )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR)
Subject: Re: NEW ATARI SUPPORT Part 2
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:35:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.115035.3668@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger) writes:
>In the referenced article, hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>>>>....., USA isn't the only country on this planet...
{shtuff gone!}
>>
>>And besides, most everyone knows the captial of Austria is Canberra.  :)
>
>Still, America may not be the only country on the planet, but come on, we 
>all know that it is the only one that counts (ooops, better stick in a 
>quick IMHO here before I get burnt to death).  Anyway, given that Atari
>is a US based company I guess that they are a little more likely to 'listen'
>to people in the US ('listen'?  Did I say listen and Atari in the same
>breath?).
{more shtuff gone!}
>
>Mark (I'm from England - and no that does not mean that I come from London).

More likely to listen to people in the 'States?!??! They won't if they know
what's good for them!! Their market is all but vanished in the States! They
should do EVERYTHING in their power to re-dominate the German, French and UK 
markets!!! That involves listening (*gasp*) to people in Europe.... (I can't 
believe I said that too!) B^* !

BTW, oh you're from England? Then you must be from Dublin....B^D 
BTW, How is Tears for Fears doing ? (you know, Bath and such...) B^)

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From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William  B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: atari archive??
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:31:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I heard of this trick for Atari color monitors, where you adjust one
of the adjustment screws in the back, to some point between 50Hz and
60Hz, and have found it to work, but now somebody has told me that 
this is hard on the monitor. Anyone know if that is true?
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.10 Rev. Dec 15 1992
Subject: Re: STalker vs Uniterm?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 11:46:18 -0800
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In <1993Jan7.141838.18899@netcom.com> yonder@netcom.com (Christopher Russell) writes:


>One thing that I would like to know about Stalker is if it will allow
>me to have a 49 line screen like I use in Uniterm... this is essential
>for me (not I have a mono monitor).

	This is the one thing STalker seems to get wrong. I tried a smaller
GDOS font in STalker to try to get more line/columns on screen, but
STalker just shrinks it's window down to 80 col/24 line. I tried to mail
Eric about this, but it seems he no longer has Usenet access.
	From what I've seen, your best bet for this is ConNect. It allows
this, and even supplies a few smaller GDOS fonts for the purpose. The
only thng I don't like about ConNect is it's dialer, but that's a minor
complaint. 


-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: a blurb
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:51:10 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

>>And doesn't NEED a Hard Drive to run!!  
> 
> Big deal.  Get a hard drive anyway.  They're cheap.

Say bud...if they're so cheap, why donl;t you mail me the money order for a new
one?  I don't happen to have the cash, nor, I would bet, do a lot of other
people.  I may guess this may be even more so in a smaller, foreign country. 
I'll keep my eye on the mail and continue to run my software from the RAMdisk
so I won't be holding my breath.

>>OS/2 and windows are HUGE
> 
> Huge by 1985 (ST creation date) standards, maybe.  Not by "real OS"
> standards.  You really have to try using a real OS sometime before you
> pass judgement on these things.
> 
>>and VERY expensive
> 
> That's a GOOD one.  $50 is *real* tough to manage for an OS, yeah.

Up the amount of the money order, please.

> Right, and consequently you have to pay $75 to upgrade the OS.  That
> is, every 3 years when they fix the pending 100 bugs in TOS.

I'm still using  very old version of TOS (1.2 I think) and have no plans for
spending money to upgrade it.  BTW, I see you suddenly got a little tight with
the purse-strings....hmm.

>>MS-Doze is the standard on IBM clones, and it is VERY under-productive!
> 
> What, exactly, do you DO with your ST that would be so much more
> unproductively done on a PC?  And in terms of calls, TOS is more
> minimal than DOS is.  And there IS no CLI for the ST, as far as Atari
> is concerned.  Only the (snicker) GEM desktop.

What's the point to trying to get a PC put together the right way to do what
I want it to do, for less cost than my MEGA ST4?  Too bad more people didn't
find out about ST's when I did.  There'd probably be less people hell-bent on
a hard drive/the latest-greatest 'x86 PC/super-workhorse/more-than-they-
need/1000.  And I have no qualms with GEM.

Oh well, you and the Jones' have fun competing with each other.  I'm gonna see
if I can get something done here.

P.S.  Why are the only people who actively promote the clones _I know_, the
ones who are able to hook up with _pirate copies_ of the hard-drive munching,
processing-time gobbling software they rave about?  I reckon a large number of
people would sing a different song if they _had_ to play by the rules.  Not to
mention they wouldn't be able to afford to fill those bulging hard-drives their
shiney new system sports.

				-Matt
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: A1200 Compatability (was Re: I am NOT making this up, OK?)
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:37:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: peter@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl's message of 4 Jan 93 15:25:36 GMT

In article <6790@tuegate.tue.nl> peter@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Peter Korsten) writes:
| For instance, Dynablaster works on the A1200. You'd even want to buy an
| Amiga for this game only (I don't know if it's on any other system and
| if so, whether you can play with 5 players).
|
Played Dynablaster on a friend's A500+ 3 weeks ago. Only had enough joysticks
for a 2-player game though :-( [there were 4 of us there].

--
Simon Oke, 3rd year Computer Science
undergraduate at the University of Essex, UK.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:46:01 EST
From: J.J. Lehett <JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: SLM605 For Sale...

    A friend of mine is selling his SLM605 Laser Printer.

    It has less than 1700 pages printed, and comes with all original packaging.

    He is asking $600 for it.

    Please direct all inquiries to:

                   bryedewaard@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Editor???
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 08:30:01 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.
Keywords: 1st Word Plus

bhawker@oneb.almanac.bc.ca writes:

> storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C. Storm (I89)) writes:
> 
> > I'm currently looking for a good editor for my atari.
> > It has to save in ascii unlike 1st word does. If anybody
> > knows which editor is good for that and where I can get it, I 
> > will appreciate your help greatly.`
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > P.S. Or if anybody has a small programm to convert 1st word plus files
> > to ascii files :-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Richard Storm, storm@fwi.uva.nl || 
> > University of Amsterdam.
> > 
> 
> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you CAN save 1st Word Plus files
> as ascii files by first switching off WP mode under the EDIT menu, then
 
 Go out and buy TEMPUS II or the likes it is the beST editor (next to
 emacs) I have ever used. 
 
 It is more than an editor.


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