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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:36:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.230836.17175@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
>From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
>Subject: Re: The Weird List
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:08:36 GMT
>In article <1993Jan11.135326.11488@samba.oit.unc.edu> Peter.Norton@launchpad.unc.edu (peter norton) writes:
>>Or how about the Australian classic "Bad Taste". A very sick/weird low budget
>>alien/horror/comedy. And once you've seen a man who's lost the top of his
>>head to a chainsaw(?) push his brain back in and keep his flapping skull
>>together with his belt your know what I mean...
>
>Ahem, it's from New Zealand and his head cracked open after a nasty
>fall off a cliff.
>
>I'm in a picky mood...

Must be...

>
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From: anish@pearl.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Anish Bhimani)
Subject: Re: Al Pacino for Best Actor (Scent of a Woman)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, New Jersey
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 22:39:00 GMT

In article <1695@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>, lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
|> >>Pacino should get best actor!
|> >
|> >He's certainly overdue, and yes, I think he'll take home the
|> 
|> 
|> Sue me if I'm wrong, but I think Pacino has already won at least 
|> one Oscar.  For either Serpico or The Godfather or both.  So "overdue"
|> is a bit of a misnomer.

Actually, no. Pacino has never won an Oscar. He was _nominated_ a number of times, including:

YEAR	CAT	Movie			Winner
----------------------------------------------
1990	Sup	Dick Tracy		Joe Pesci, Goodfellas
1979	Lead	And Justice for All	Dustin Hoffman, Kramer vs. Kramer
1976	Lead	Dog Day Afternoon	Peter Finch, Network
1974	Lead	Godfather, Part II	Art Carney, Harry and Tonto
1973	Lead	Serpico			Jack Lemmon, Save the Tiger
1972	Sup	The Godfather		Joel Grey, Cabaret

I think that's it, but I could be wrong. I'll check when I get home.


Anyway, I was also _incredibly_ impressed by both Pacino and Nicholson this year. However, I think Pacino will win this year for largely the same reason Paul Newman won in 1986: the sentimentality factor. With apologies to Martin Scorsese, no one likes to see someone nominated over and over again without winning.

It's too bad for Jack, too, because this was actually one of the few films in which I thought Jack wasn't just being Jack. He obviously put a lot into the role, and in any other year . . . (q.v. Nick Nolte, 1991).

Funny how things work, though, Nicholson should have a decent shot at a Supporting Oscar this year in _A Few Good Men_ - ironic, since that is a role in which he is just being JACK.

Cheers,

Anish

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Biggest flop ever? A survey....
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:31:24 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

I was dissing Heaven's Gate a while back when I started wondering
if it was the biggest flop ever. Only one shallow, inconclusive
way to decide: take a poll!

Here's what to do:

Mail me a list of the FIVE biggest flops in movie history, in order.
Flop can refer to:
     Pathetic quality.
     Horrible financial performance.     
     
In either case, great expectations definitely heighten the flop.
If you think some other criteria should be included, go ahead and tell
me. I'll publish some of the more esoteric ideas with the results.

Please MAIL your entries to me! I do not guarantee that any posted
surveys will be counted. I'll close the polls on January 15th, 
unless nobody responds. In that case, I'll come crying back again. 

=====
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All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
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From: ror1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard O. Rouse III)
Subject: Movie Shots FTP Sites?
Reply-To: ror1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:03:35 GMT



Does anyone know of a good place to FTP GIFs of movies?  Old movies in 
particular?  

I'm specifically looking GIF stills (or promo posters) for the following:

Citizen Kane
Spellbound
Clockwork Orange
Charade
Dr. Zhivago
Vertigo


Thanx in advance

-Richard
ror1@ellis.uchicago.edu

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS ! (and a PRAISE)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:33:04 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu

johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson) writes:

> All that for $1.50 for ALL shows at ALL times.
> They also had the current movies (Last of the Mohicans, Under Seige,
> etc).

Not to be too pedantic, but "Under Siege" and "Last Of The Mohicans" have
been in the second-run dollar houses around here since before Christmas.

But I do get your point; one of the nicest theatres in town is the Cinemark.
It opened as a second-run house ($1.00 before 6pm, $1.50 afterwards) and
does an amazing amount of business.  They did have the advantage of being
able to take over an existing facility, though: Mann built two eight-screen
theatres in Albuquerque a few years back in an attempt to expand into this
market, but ran into a financial crunch before they could actually open them.
Cinemark took one and UA took the other, and both seem to be doing quite
well.  The other dollar houses in town are in older locations, and are
nowhere near as pleasant a moviegoing experience as the Cinemark is, outside
of the fact that the Cinemark is a serious teen/gang hangout on the weekends.

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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: movies in the public
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:17:29 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

GS>nobody owns the copyright to "It's a Wonderful Life", which
GS>I found hard to believe.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Are
GS>there any other films of note that are in the public domain?

IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE is indeed in the public domain.  Capra begged
Columbia to renew the copyright, but they didn't bother because the
film was a box-office flop.  And so it lapsed into the public domain.
Once there, however, TV snapped it up and began playing it every
chance they got, because it was a public domain film and they didn't
have to pay any royalties or fees or whatever for it.

Fortunately, IAWL turned out to be a wonderful movie, and the constant
replays turned it into the classic we know now.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: glenn@rigel.econ.uga.edu (Glenn F. Leavell)
Subject: MINDWALK: information wanted
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:49:37 GMT

While recently watching the movie KAFKA on videocassette, I saw a preview
for MINDWALK, which I believe was directed by the author of the book
_The Tao of Physics_.  I had not heard of this film, and I was wondering if
anyone has seen it or knows anything else of interest about it.

Thank you.

Glenn Leavell
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:06:05 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1ic5r1INNedq@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:

>Your reasoning sounds good. However, remember that several of
>the biggest blockbusters in history were long movies: Gone
>with the Wind, Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Lawrence of Arabia.
>There are others. All of these films are longer than 3 hours, and
>all made tons of money.

Were multiple showing of movies on the same day all that common when
these movies came out? I came from Drive-in country where there was
obviously only one showing per night anyway, but I seem to remember
that being the general rule. It's been a long time though and I could
be wrong.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:37:19 GMT

In article <1csC03zIc8Lt00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>
>I'd like to know if I'm the only one who notices this:  Theaters that
>turn down the brightness of the projector bulb, supposedly to keep
>the film stock from wearing out sooner, so that the whole movie looks
>like it was filmed at night.

Well, for one thing, it WILL keep the film stock from wearing out
sooner, but I've never seen this being done.  There *are* quite a few
movies (Bram Stoker's Dracula and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves come to
mind) which were _shot_ with incredibly dim lighting to begin with.

If it clearly isn't intended (i.e. what obviously was intended to be a
sunny day looks like twilight) then it could be something wrong with the
equipment.  Bring it to someone's attention and ask them to
investigate... (although if the staff is on their toes they ought to
notice it themselves)

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From: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Trailers That Give It Away: Was(Re: Review:  SCENT OF A WOMAN)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:34:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempus.corp.sun.com

In article 1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu, bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
<=>In article <4556@cvbnetPrime.COM>, csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet) writes:
<=>
<=>>> SCENT OF A WOMAN
<=>

<=>> Pacino gives the performance of a lifetime!!!
<=>Which was absolutely spoiled for me by the HORRIBLY stupid "happy Hollywood"
<=>ending.  It was literally the dumbest ending of any movie I have ever, made
<=>all the more dissapointing because the movie had some real promise in the 
<=>beginning.

The ending was somewhat dumb - but my pet peeve was that the
trailers for this movie (along with the trailers for many
others) gave the whole story away. The scenes from the end of the
movie that were included in the TV promotional commercials
made it obvious how things would turn out before the movie
even started.



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From: 6524910@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: The Wizard of Oz
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 17:30:48 PST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

In article <1ihnicINN6fc@ensta.ensta.fr>, dussert@beatrice.ensta.fr (Pierre Duss
|> 	Hello everybody!
|>
|>  Does someone remember the name of the little girl played by Judy Garland in
|>  Wizard of Oz?
|>
|> 				Alex


Dorothy Gale from Kansas
From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Under Siege on video?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 15:50:22 GMT
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunfish.icase.edu

when will Under Siege be released in video? anyone have a clue?
thanks and foomshanka.


avik@icase.icase.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: trice@brtph330 (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Re: Movies you were forced to see
Organization: Bell Northern Research, RTP, NC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:11:54 GMT

Steve Eiswirth (eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com) wrote:
Pretty Woman - Hated it, plot just went on and on
Robin Hood Prince of Theives - Not too bad I kind of enjoyed it
Moonstruck - fell into a coma watching this one
When Harry Met Sally - It was "okay" not one of Billy Crystal's best
                       The soundtrack is great though.
Pricess Bride - I didnt want to see this because all of the positive
                reports were from females so I assumed it to be a
                "chick movie".  I really liked it though!  Watch it
                again and again now.
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From: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Name This Obscure Old Movie
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:58:38 GMT
Reply-To: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.movies, dianne@dianne.b24a.ingr.com (Dianne Ferrans) writes:
..etc..
>I've posted this question once before and got none, NO
>response! In a group this size! Could it be that noone knows?

>Saw a movie in the late 70's (but it was probably much older than that)
>that had a song:

>Sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters
>many men have tried to split us up, but no one can!
>Lord, help the Mr. who comes between me and my sister
>and Lord, help the sister who comes between me and my man!

 Check your newsnet and server, this question was answered to the point
where it was "overkill"... ansd answered on more than one occasion..
vie was "White Christmas" in 1954, song was "Sisters" sung by Rosemary
Clooney and Vera-Ellen.
.
.
.
.
....
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Weird Films and how we get to see them
Keywords: Flaming Creatures, Eraserhead, Slacker
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:51:40 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <C0Iuy6.9IG@news.udel.edu> bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams) writes:
>
>I think you mean, weird films that have made it into the main stream, which
>means by definition that they can't be THAT weird.  
>
>One thing I hate about these 'best films' list or 'worst film' or 'best
>acting' or whatever is it kind of assumes that we have seen all the films
>that might qualify for these awards that are out there.  NOT!!  The only
>movies that end up getting a wide release are ones the distributors are
>willing to release.  It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how
>good the films are or whatever.  There are GREAT films that we will never
>see and never know about.  There are thousands upon thousands of films that
>the average movie goer will never find out about.  It's all in the advertising
>(just wanted to clear that up, hehe )...

There's a film that is going to get some sort of release soon that lovers
of odd films want to watch for.  It's called "Motorama".  It concerns a
boy (10 or 12) from a somewhat abusive home who essentially says "fuck it",
steals a car, and sets off across a weirdly fictional America, obsessed with
a quest to collect all the game pieces from a service station contest 
called Motorama.  The film is full of strange characters and odd incidents,
and has lots of fairly well known performers turning up in small parts.
Perhaps not a great film, but not much like what usually gets made.  And
the kid gives a fine performance.  Chances are this film is good for a
week, at best, in most theaters, so those who like such films are advised
to keep their eyes open.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: alanj@ibmpcug.co.uk (Alan Jay)
Subject: Re: TOUS LES MATINS DU MONDE (French)
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:19:49 GMT


I enjoyed TOUS LES MATINS DU MONDE  when I saw it earlier
this week London.  I certainly agreen with your comparison to BARRY
LYNDON.  The film worked for me as an enjoyable piece of
film with beautiful music and a fitting setting.


In article <1993Jan01.223121.14927@microsoft.com> frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:
>TOUS LES MATINS DU MONDE is a French film directed by Alain Corneau,
>from a script by Corneau and Pascal Quignard. It stars Jean-Pierre
>Marielle,Gerard Depardieu, Guillaume Depardieu, Anne Brochet, and
>Carole Richert. Unrated, includes male and female nudity. In French
>with English subtitles.

I find it interesting that it is unratted I assume because
it was not submitted rather than given any unreasonable
rating in the UK it is rated 12 (equivalent to PG-13 in the
US - sort of) and I am surprised you mention the nudity
which was very mild and much less offensive than many
mainstream movie.

Also in London it is getting quite a wide release to more
than just the basic art houses which surpried me after I had
seen it.

ALan
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From: mason
Subject: Re: Closing credits (was: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !)
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:42:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.215839.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>
churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell) writes:
 
>I don't give a hang about gaffers, best boys, or the catering service,
>but often I _do_ want to see the music credits, which are nearly always
>dead last.
 
Some films have dedications at the end, some list filming locations
(which I am generalloy curious about), and a rare few have chasers
(Wayne's World and Lethal Weapon 3 to name a few recent ones). I
I like listening to the closing theme, I like the chance to sit still
and think about the movie I just saw, and I like to give everyone else
in the theatre time to get their cars out of the parking lot.
 
If you want to leave while the credits are rolling, fine.  Don't
bitch about those of us who like to stay.
 
-- mason
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:45:26 GMT

> What are some of the things that drive you nuts when you go to see a movie at a
> theater?
> 
> 1: People who have to talk constantly, especially if they have to narrate the
> whole damn film to their stupid companions!

  Agreed!!  This very thing happened to me not long ago and ruined my
  evening.  Next time, I'm asking for a refund.

  2: When they stop the previews, turn up the house lights, and pass the
     collection jar around for some "good" cause.  That really burns me up!
     Talk about a captive audience....

  3: Not starting at the advertised time.

Tom
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:42:25 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:

}Whow - I don't know where you people go to see movies, but I rarely -
}if ever - encounter any of the annoyances you list. Almost anything -
}including people talking, screaming kids, etc - can be taken care of
}by simply going over to those people and explaining (nice calm voice,
}menacing visage) that they are seriously disturbing your viewing 
}enjoyment  :-)

Maybe where you are.  I have tried various methods of handling noisy
people:  A long, cold stare; a dirty look; a stern, "Shh!"; a very
polite, "Could you please hold it down a little?" (notice, not even
"stop talking", but just "hold it *down*").  Almost always, the response
I get is as if *I* have somehow intruded on *them*.

--James Preston

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen)
Subject: Re: The Wizard of Oz
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:13:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.224843.6823@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu writes:
>In article 26537@b8.b8.ingr.com, anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>>|In article <1ihnicINN6fc@ensta.ensta.fr>, dussert@beatrice.ensta.fr (Pierre Dussert) writes:
>>||> 	Hello everybody!
>>||> 
>>||>  Does someone remember the name of the little girl played by Judy Garland in the
>>||>  Wizard of Oz?
>>||> 
>>||> 				Alex
>>|
>>|Scarlett O'Hara?
>
>
>You mean Dorothy?
>
>---
You're thinking of the Golden Girls. 

>
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Last of the Mohicans
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:43:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan11.202336.16548@microsoft.com>, wayneh@microsoft.com 
(Wayne Hazle) writes:

>> the three American Indian actors,
>> especially Wes Studi as Uncas, who many thought nearly stole the show.
> Wes Studi DID steal the show and should be considered at Oscar time. 

The original post of mine should of course read "Wes Studi as Magua".

Don't know what I was thinking...but the actor playing Uncas did a fine job as
well.  (and considering Russell Means played Chincagook with no previous acting
experience he should certainly be lauded!)

Greg Bole                                  "In case your aim is better 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                   than your judgement."
                                   Daniel Day-Lewis in _Last of the Mohicans_