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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: One-sided Rivalries
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:20:48 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) wrote:

}Someone recently posted about one-sided rivalries (i.e. Virginia
}Tech-UVA).  I think this happens when one team gets dominant for too
}long, the typical underdog starts treating it as the "big game".
}
}Not to sound blasphemous to my fellow Georgia Tech alums out there,
}but I think Georgia Tech-Georgia has gotten this way.    Many UGA
}types seem to treat Auburn or Florida as their biggest rivals ...

Yes, I have to agree.  Among folks who actually attended the University [sic]
of Georgia I think Tech is probably more strongly thought of as the top
rival.  Among those who started following Georgia around the time of the
1980 MNC and the consecutive SEC titles in '80-'82, there is a tendency to
regard Auburn, Florida, and even Clem(p)son as bigger rivals.  The reason
for this is simple: Tech was horrid in the early 80's when Curry first
arrived, and those teams were Georgia's main competition.  The Auburn-Georgia
game is also just as old a series as Tech-Georgia.

Another strong factor which makes it one-sided is that Tech has had to
drop most other long-time rivals to complete the ACC schedule.  Our 
series with Auburn was certainly close to the equal of the Georgia
rivalry, and Tennessee was up there as well.  Our long-time rivals
from the ACC (Clemson, Duke, Carolina) are slowly taking over, however.

Things have swung back a bit towards balance in the rivalry lately,
with the teams splitting the last 8 games evenly.

}(Waiting for Mark "statman" Mitchell to repudiate my generalzation of
} Georgia Tech football prowess in the 70's ...)

I wish I could, but unfortunately you are right on the money.  Tech
was a woeful 3-7 against the Dawgs in the 70's.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bartlett@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Terry Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Need words to Stanford fight song
Organization: Sun Microsystems Rocky Mountain Technology Center, Colo Spgs
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:23:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.202919.18226@a.cs.okstate.edu> hip@a.cs.okstate.edu (HUFFMAN BRADLEY SP) writes:
>Could someone quickly mail me the words to the Stanford fight song.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Brad

Which Stanford fight song?  When I was there they had three songs that
were used a lot, but I wouldn't call any one of them a true "fight"
song.  The closest one to that would probably "All Right Now".  I don't
think "Come Join the Band" or "Hail Stanford Hail" count.  

Care to voice an opinion on this, Yvonne?


Terry Bartlett			   bartlett@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM
Sun Microsystems		   "You've got to stand for something,
Rocky Mountain Technology Center    or you'll fall for anything..."
Colorado Springs, CO 80918
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big 10 stuff
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:31:05 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

   Somehow, I wiped out all my Email and files. Oh well, here's my (very)
   brief preview for the upcoming weekend.

   Iowa 16, Wisconsin 13: UW is too young to come back so quickly after a
   big win. I could live with being wrong on this pick.
   Ohio State 31, Illinois 13: No way OSU loses two in a row.
   Indiana 28, Northwestern 17: No way Northwestern wins two in a row.
   Michigan 37, Michigan State 10: I don't care if it's a big rivalry, the
   Wolves are simply too tough.
   Purdue 21, Minnesota 17: In honor of the alma mater of the Cheesehead 
   Academy's founding father.
   Miami 24, Penn State 20: I honestly think Miami will lose, but I just
   can't bring myself to pick against them.

   --salty
    
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From: hadar@boreas.Stanford.EDU (Hadar Avi-Itzhak)
Subject: Stanford-Arizona ticket for sale
Keywords: tix,tickets
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:44:58 GMT

I have an extra ticket for the Stanford-Arizona game next week. It's for the
students section ! I'll sell it at my original cost    
hadar@boreas.stanford.edu



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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:36:17 GMT

In article <1687FA901.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
[about the A&M-UT series]
>Perhaps you would *really* like it for us to continue the last 8 years
>worth of win/loss ratio?  Shouldn't take all that much longer to
>catch up, eh?

In the past 8 years, A&M has a 0.875 winning percentage over the cattle.  
At that rate, the series will be tied in 2032.

In the past 8 days, the percentage of cattle dung spewed forth into this 
newsgroups has increase by a factor of at least 10.  At that rate, r.s.f.c.
will turn into alt.closet.cattle.trying.to.convince.everyone.that.we've.been.
proud.of.being.cows.all.along in approximately 16 days.

- goober (i think i'll grill up a nice big steak tonight) smith
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From: kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin)
Subject: Re: JP SEC GotW?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:11:57 CDT

In article <70655@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan) wrote:
>}
>} Anybody know what this Saturdays' JP SEC Game of the Week is?  
>
>Jefferson-Pilot, in its infinite wisdom, has selected the pivotal
>SEC matchup of Arkansas at Tennessee. 
>
>I suspect JP wanted to show us *5* Arkansas games in a row, but
>unfortunately they have the week off October 24.  We are forced to
>settle for just 4 Piggie games in 5 weeks.
>
>Thank God they aren't trying to force us to watch the meaningless
>games like Auburn at Mississippi State and LSU at Florida!
>
>[ No :-)'s, but one big :-(. ]
>
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
>       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
>         swords is no basis for a system of government!"


Is the Auburn/Mississippi State game not going to be telivised at all?
This will really be a great matchup, and really should be on T.V.

BTW, does anyone know what time the AU/MSU kickoff will be?

Thanks in advance,

Ken

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From: ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathleen Treole)
Subject: Kansas City Player:  David Szott
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:28:24 GMT

Do any die-hard (or not so die-hard) Kansas City fans have any information 
about how David Szott is doing on the team this year?  Went to high school
with him in NJ and wouldn't mind knowing how his game is going...

You'll probably remember him because 2 years ago (?) he was the rookie that
committed a holding penalty which moved KC back and then the kicker missed the 
field goal that would have put KC in the Superbowl, or last round of the 
playoffs.  As a friend (or acquaintance) of his, I can say HE DIDN'T MEAN IT!

But anything anyone would know.....would be appreciated!
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Kathy Treole                            "Being a tick is not a problem
ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                     --it's an honor"
The Ohio State University
GO BUCKS!!
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From: klbartle@david.wheaton.edu (Kevin Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Dallas Philly NFC championship game?
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:28:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.224703.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> asif@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>Dallas Philly in NFC championship game?
>What do u think?
>

I see absolutely no reason why not.  

Except the Niners.  And the Redskins.  Or maybe the Vikes.(?) Possibly the
Saints.  Could be the Cardinals.  Or the Rams.  Bears?  Nah.

Yes, I agree with you, being a die-hard Eagle fan who would like the Cowboys
if they weren't such threat.  But the season is young.  And so are the 'Boys. 

					. . . the Mantis

Randall Cunningham for president.
Go EAGLES!

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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: AFC-Daydreams
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:20:02 GMT

S.H. <NU138915@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>
>After seeing the Eagles perform, I ask, Is there any AFC-team
>which can take on the Eagles when it counts. 

Well, after seeing the Eagles in their last three playoff games,
I ask, Is there any Eagles team which can take on anybody when it 
counts?

>No offence, I just
>cannot see a single AFC team having the credentials.

"Credentials"?  What the fuck are you talking about?  What kind of
"credentials" do you want?  A letter from the president?  The Eagles
don't have any "credentials", either.  They just have a 4-0 start
in the regular season.  Impressive, but they're no lock to win
anything yet, not even their division.



--Gidi


Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.pro:20381 dc.redskins:189
From: ledzep@wam.umd.edu (John Henry Bonham)
Subject: Re:  Highest Score in NFL history- WRONG!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:37:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.042932.10991@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>
>
>
>
>  The highest number of points ever scored by one team in the NFL:
>
>
>
>  1940:  Chicago Bears 75,  Washington Redskins 0.

WRONG!  Chicago 73, Washington Redskins 0

Most combination was Washington 72 New York Giants 42 (i believe)


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From: cowboy@hubcap.clemson.edu (Greg Barron)
Subject: Lions at Vikings tonight (Thurs.)?
Keywords: Lions, Vikings, schedule
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:16:07 GMT

Detroit is scheduled to play the Vikings at the Metrodome
tonight (7:30 p.m. EST, TNT). Both teams were scheduled for
a bye this week in the week-by-week listing I got back in
July. Why the change? I must've been out to lunch when the
game was moved.

Thanks.


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| Clemson University            | 
| cowboy@hubcap.clemson.edu     |
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From: blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum)
Subject: Re: Cowboy *POWER* Notes 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 18:32:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.135033.1740@bnr.ca> patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power) writes:
>
*Stuff deleted*
>
>      ACE was traded to the Raiders for what is speculated to be a 4th
>rounder that could escalate to a 3rd based on playing time.  IMHO, this
>was a great move for ACE.  LA likes to go deep, so he can use his "NFL's
>Fastest Man" speed.  Plus, no knock on Marinovich, but he doesn't throw
>as hard as Aikman does.  I think this gave Wright alot of trouble.  Wright's
>vastly improved over his rookie year, this move will make him better.

Anyone know if Jimmy Smith played on Sunday against the Seahawks?
NBC cut the local feed after the 3rd quarter. 

-Is J. Smith fully recovered from the broken leg?
-Is he fast enough to be the speed burner to replace Ace?
-Think he will contribute more than Ace has?

About Alvin Harper....what is his problem?  He should be
getting more receptions.  Is he having a hard time getting
open or is Aikman just not throwing to him?  Think he'll
develop soon?

thanks and

Go Cowboys!!!!
Darren
From: khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Jets Help!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:40:57 GMT

Hello Jets fans!  Do any of you know what's up with Blair Thomas and his
carrying the ball newar the goal line?  I see that he leads the teams in
carries and yards every week, but Brad Baxter seems to be the man at the
goal line.  Is this going to continue all year?

Thanks.

-------------------------------------
Kevin Hansen
MN Twin Family Study - U of MN
khansen@epx.cis.umn.edu - (612)626-7224
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Subject: Re: Call For Votes: Painful Death to All Premature Woofers
Keywords: woofers, tweeters, subwoofers, death, dream, destruction, death...
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:39:45 GMT

In article <1bcsj4INN6tt@agate.berkeley.edu> felix@ocf.berkeley.edu (Felix Ling) writes:
>From: felix@ocf.berkeley.edu (Felix Ling)
>Subject: Re: Call For Votes: Painful Death to All Premature Woofers
>Date: 12 Oct 1992 22:01:08 GMT
>Keywords: woofers, tweeters, subwoofers, death, dream, destruction, death...

>In article <7245@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> stephenl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Stephen Lamar Legate) writes:
>>I propose to amend the r.s.f.p. charter as follows:
>>
>>       Section X: Death to Woofers.

[blah, blah, blah deleted]

>GIANTS WILL GO 13-3 AND WIN THE NEXT 358 SUPERBOWLS!!
>Well... they could!  Maybe.

OH PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEE!
I wouldnt even go THAT FAR!  (My prediction happens to be 7-9 for the year)
And No playoffs for the next two years, unless we pull it together and get 
some new personnell during the off season.

And I happen to enjoy the woofing so that I CAN Watch them eat their words.  
We do this at home with our friends, why not here...

YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!
Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU
From: thyat@sdf.lonestar.org (Tom Hyatt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Philadelphia Eagles!
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:36:03 GMT
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas

In article <1992Oct6.044314.26014@seq.uncwil.edu> rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith) writes:
>Woof, woof!
>
>'nuff said.
>-- 
>______________________________________________________________________________
>|rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu           Ross Smith              smith@oscar.udel.edu|
>|    "I really hate that dog...." - Dr. Chase Matthews, Pet Semetary 2       |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Ah, yet another Iggles mouth-breather........

One thing that seems to have been going unnoticed on the net messages here is
some statements made by a lot of the Dallas (and national) sports-media. Most
I have heard stated that they expected Philly to rough up Dallas on this game.
The logic is that the Eagles were *really* hyped up for this game, and the 
young (2nd youngest avg. in NFL) Cowboys would let inexperience and youth take
over.  However, they also said that right *now*, Philadelphia is playing at
peak level, and Dallas is improving on a weekly basis.  Even with this loss, the
gutcheck by Dallas will be worth a heck of a lot in later weeks.  I do submit
that the Dallas team that Philly faces on November 1 will be a mentally and
physically tougher team, while the Eagles will be pretty much the same, if not
a little worse.  Remember, this for Philly was *THE GAME OF THE YEAR*, while
for Dallas, it was simply a big game during week 5.  Keep it in perspective,
there are still 12 more regular-season games to to.........

Tom H.



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cowboy@hubcap.clemson.edu (Greg Barron)
Subject: A Detroit Lions History Question
Keywords: Detroit, Billy Simms, dropkick
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:27:05 GMT

Thanks to the kind souls who informed me that the Detroit-Minnesota
game is *next* Thursday. I must still be woozy from watching my 
Cowboys get waxed, buffed, and polished by those coldly efficient 
Eagles. I promise to read the whole schedule 100 times before 
posting another question about it :-)

Another question: years ago, when Billy Simms was still playing
for the Lions......he was running with the ball and leaped in 
the air and drop-kicked a would-be tackler square in the head.
Honest and for true! Are there any old Lions fans who can tell
me:

* Who were the Lions playing?
* What penalty did the zebras call (they called *something*)?
* Who won the game?
* Where were they playing?

This "kung-fu" sequence was (is?) part of the opening to the
sports show "George Michael's Sports Machine", an NBC product
if I'm not mistaken.

Again, I appreciate it.  GO COWBOYS.....! 



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| Clemson University            | 
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From: robert@landru.mtc.ti.com (Robert Treese)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Class Acts ... NOT!
Keywords: n
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:49:32 GMT
Organization: Manufacturing Technology Center, Texas Instruments, Dallas

In article <1b4b7lINNdks@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>
>   As for Waters, every team has a guy who instigates his share of fights. I've
>   seen Dallas' Bates get into quite a few.        
>

Don't even try to make this comparison.  Bates has never been accused of
taking cheap shots.  He is just a strong hitter.  And most of the times
when he is involved in a fight he is usually stepping in between people.  If
your going to compare Waters to a Cowboy at least pick someone who talks
the trash and gets in the little shoving matches like Ike Holt.

Robert
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: august@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov (Ray August)
Subject: Re: Need Answers not Finger Pointing
Organization: nasa-jsc
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:48:15 GMT

satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
: Okay, the GIANTS start off with their worst record since the 1987 season
: going 1-4. The difference this time is that this is not a strike season and
: let's face it, things aren't aiming to get any better.  So my question, what
: should the GIANTS do next?
: 
: They've really loaded up on offense during the last few drafts and these guys
: could really develop into something so don't mess with that.  The defense?
: Well, everyone says the defense is aging but come on now, don't Philly and
: Washington have defenses that are getting up there?  And they ended the 1991
: season ranked 1 and 3!  Coaching, okay ... get a defensive coordinator. But
: who?  Buddy Ryan?  And who for a head coach??  Can anyone offer any hope
: to a GIANTS fan that's really starting to feel it??
: 


I think their record is 1-3.  With their next three games being Phoenix,
@Rams, and Seattle; they have a very good chance of going 4-3 into RFK
in week #9.  If the Giants can pull of this 3/game stretch, they will
be pumped up and could steal one from the Skins.  I don't think they
need any changes, just some motivation.........


--

The rayster             ** Go Oilers
                        ** Go Braves
                        ** Bulls in 93

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Browns vs. Steelers
Organization: Clark University
Date: 10 OCT 92 02:09:56 GMT

I'll be interested to see how much pressure Pitt. can put on Tomczak.
These teams usually play each other tough, regardless of what kind of
season they're having. I think the Steelers are rightly favored, but
it may come down to one weakness (Pitt's inconsistent pass rush) against
another (Cleveland's undependable offensive line).

I've been high on Eric Green for the past two seasons, but these injuries
are getting annoying. If he goes on IR again maybe they should (gulp)
trade him for a decent defensive lineman or WR. Or maybe they could nab
Jensen or Edmunds from the Dolphins.

Any comments on unrestricted free agency and how it could affect teams
like Pittsburgh? I'm afraid the Steelers could end up like the Pirates,
developing good players but eventually losing them to teams in bigger
markets. Maybe I've just gotten too used to the Steeler administration's
stinginess. In any case, I think it's absurd for any athlete to make more
than one or two million in a season. Magic Johnson's salary is disgusting.

Bart
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From: karppine@ntc.nokia.com
Subject: Ticket wanted: Tampa Bay @ Chicago (Oct. 18)
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:46:02 GMT


  I would like to see the Buccaneers vs. Bears game on 10/18/92.
  Is there anyone with a spare ticket - or some advice how to get
  one.
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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What the fuck is the Bills problem?
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct12.115354.14508@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes...
>Their fans use vulgar language.

Awww...that's a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.

:)


Doug

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Eagles : YIKES!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:32:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.203035.20790@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>Bob, some things are intangible, or does that require a Master's for you
>to understand. Coach Seifert came right in and won a SB. 
And he is going all downhill since then. Is that part of the "tradition"?

>Coach Seifert, currently has the highest winning perctange of any coach. 
As of 10/7/1992, that's a DAMN LIE.

>Does that tell you something. 
Yes, that you are lying.

Gloria baby, don't use lie to support your case.

>Montana goes down and now Young is leading the Niners
>to victories. 
Oh, what about Young's tradition of "never winning a playoff game"? Does
that count as part of the 49ers tradition or not? 

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                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bengals Query query?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:20:37 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.


Noticed during the highlights of the Bengals-Oilers game that the Bengals
have a receiver called Query. Is this Jeff Query who used to play for
the Packers? If so, when did the Bengals pick him up - I don't remember
seeing him on the list of Plan B acquisitions.

Peter Vamplew


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