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From: d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Jonsson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: ZOOM 9002
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:50:11 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

hayrinen@messi.uku.fi (Hayrinen Jukka) writes:

>sound is OK but there's an annoying hum, that can be very irritating when
>coming amplified through our PA system.

This is one of two annoying `features` which comes with the ZOOM 9002.
I must say that the compressor hums such a lot that I quite frankly 
never uses it , at least not with any heavy distortion. The other 
feature is the extraordinary 'plastic' sound you get when you run it
through your PA system. I use a ( quite lousy :-) Yamaha amp and
runs it through the clean channel. Then if you turn the reverb down on 
the amp you will get a truly rocking sound. ( IMHO ) :-)


>ps. Is anybody interested in letting other people share their favorite Zoom-
>sounds in the form of parameter charts?

Yep but I'm afraid that my sounds are pretty basic :

	Rythm crunch : Dist 7-10 , Reverb1 3 /bal 2-3 and some EQ thing
	Lead Dist    : Comp 4-5 , dist 10-12 ,pitch +2 on "the middle one"
		       some delay and reverb
	Clean rythm  : Dist on Zero, just a touch of chorus and some Reverb1 
        Cleam Lead (for blues) :Comp 2,Dist 0,some EQ,some more chorus,delay1
				and reverb1 

I'm sorry about the not-so-precise parameters but this is straight
from my memory and the sounds haven't been edited for months so
I have forgotten almost everything about them. Though try just a
little flanger on the clean rythm- sound instead of chorus there is magic
in there...

Rock'n Roll

- Henrik


	
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: muller@alliant.com (Jim Muller)
Subject: Re: Question on Fret Wear
Organization: Alliant Computer Systems Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:54:21 GMT

In <ADA.92Apr6115558@zip.larc.nasa.gov> ada@zip.larc.nasa.gov
   (Anthony Arviola) writes:
>I just bought my first new guitar and I'm wondering how I can avoid
>prematurely wearing out my frets...
>On my old, used guitar, I had to file and recrown the frets once...
>[so then I] decided to buy a new guitar.

That's a bit like saying you won't drive your car so you won't have to
do a tune-up so often.  That's fine except the reason you have the car in
the first place, and the reason you bother with maintenance at all, is so
you can drive!  Seriously though, fret work is a normal maintenance item
that is best just done and forgotten.  A good repairperson should be able
to do a fret job in a day or so (unless the work in the shop is backed up)
and once done, you should be able to forget about it for a year or more.
Also there should be enough metal on a new fret that it can stand several
fret jobs before needing replacement, and after that, it can be replaced.

The one thing you can do is avoid gratuitous wear, like just picking up
the guitar and launching into a half dozen bends just because it's cool.
(On the other hand, if that's your idea of music [no judgement intended]
then by all means do it - that's why you have the guitar.]  You might also
consider replacing your strings fairly often.  I have no evidence to back
this up but it seems likely that a rusty or even dirty string might be more
abrasive on the fret than a clean one.  If you wipe your strings down after
you play, that might make both the strings and the frets corrode more slowly.
Also, consider using something like FastFret.  Again, no evidence but the
lub'ing effect may make the frets and strings wear more slowly.  Finally,
consider the string type.  Again, no evidence, but (at least for acoustic
guitar strings) I would expect a harder string to wear the frets faster.
This includes those like GHS's White Bronze (which appear to be stainless
steel) and to a lesser extent phosphor bronze.  Just conjecture here...I
don't spend much time worrying about this and I have no real evidence.
-- 
Jim Muller
muller@alliant.com
From: d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Jonsson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Q on Screaming Siren Sounds from Satrianni
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:21:30 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

sbc@netcom.com (Spencer Clark) writes:

>Okay, here is a non-musical question: how does Joe Satrianni make those
>wails on the guitar so clearly and without noticable decay on songs such
>as Satch Boogey?  Are they natural harmonics for the most part with the 
>usual virbrato bar and tons o' volume?  Or artificial harmonics with 
>Marshalls at 11?  

The answer is COMPRESSION. Satch is using A LOT of compression
together with A LOT of distortion and A LOT of volume.
( And then , of course, A LOT of practice )

Rock'n Roll to ya all

Henrik 

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From: stratton@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (D. Alexander Stratton)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: TAB: and REQUEST: Extreme's Hole Hearted
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:35:26 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article John Tampubolon <jt3c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>anyone have the chords for Extreme's More than words & Hole hearted?

I was waiting for somebody to post tab for Hole Hearted and nobody did, so I'm
going ahead with my own attempt. I've been trying to figure this one out from
smatterings on the radio, any corrections would be appreciated as would lyrics!

By the way, this is the first tab I've ever written, I've read music for 22
years, and learned to read tab by monitoring alt.guitar! Hear it is ...

HOLE-HEARTED

INTRO
=====

     D  D  E/D              repeat twice    D  E/D  F/D

E ---2--2--4------4-------    ||    ||------2--4--5
B ---3--3--5---------5----    ||    ||------3--5--6
G ---2--2--4------------4-   .||   .||------2--4--5
D ---0--0--0--------------   .||   .||------0------
A ---X--X--X--------------    ||    ||------x------
E ---X--X--X--------------    ||    ||------x------


VERSE  (first solo, then twice with vocals)
=====

     Apow (power)                D Apow     D Apow    

E X---------------------------------------------------
B X---------------------------------------------------
G X-----------------------5-H6---7-5-H6-----7-5-H6----
D ---7--7-7-7--0----------7----7-7-7----7-7-7-7----7--
A ---0------0----3--0-----0---------------------------
E X---------------------------------------------------

     Apow              Dpow                      G A  repeat 2

E X--------------------x------------------------------- || ||
B X--------------------3------------------------------- || ||
G X--------------------2---2-2-3-2-0-------------------.||.||
D ---6-H7--7-7-7-------0-------------3-2-0-------------.||.||
A ---0---------0---0-3-0-------------------3-2-0---0--- || ||
E X--------------------x-------------------------3----- || ||

  (I'm not sure about the run AT ALL except the last 5 notes)

BRIDGE  "Rivers flow into the sea ..."
======

Chords are D A G D  A D A A  (pretty sure...position unknown)

(Any help would be appreciated)

CHORUS
======

Chords sound like Gpow C G D  Gpow Cmin G D  Repeat, then 
                  D E/D   repeat into verse

(Is Cmin correct? Corrections appreciated)

********************************
Fluff
"We Will Survive"
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe)
Subject: Dixie Dregs tour schedule???
Originator: v035550@stcvax
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:45:34 GMT

Does anybody on this group happen                                               
to know what the tour schedule of the                                           
Re-united Dixie Dregs is?                                                       
                                                                                
sm                                                                              
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: H.Edwards@massey.ac.nz (H. Edwards)
Subject: Re: needed:used acoustic
Keywords: Oz, James Taylor, Steve Howe
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 23:41:12 GMT

<WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>dear geetar people,
>   anyone selling a decent acoustic for a decent price?
>get ahold of the goob in care of will. thanks.
>wkm101@psuvm
>alice is in wonderland, oz is over the rainbow,
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and all the monsters live in midian...

No, cobber, oz is over the Tasman sea (or in your case the Pacific ocean),
in between New Zealand and the Indian Ocean.  Struth!

Great to see some mention of James Taylor in this newsgroup.

Any Steve Howe (of Yes) fans out there?  A superb player of the guitar
(electric, acoustic and classical) and related string instruments.  I
would have to rate "The Yes Album" (his first album with Yes) as one of the
50 guitar albums that have most influenced my playing and appreciation of
the guitar.

-- 


Howard Edwards				Ph: (64)(6)3569099 ext 8331
Dept of Statistics			Fax: (64)(6)3505611
Massey University			email: H.Edwards@massey.ac.nz
Palmerston North
NEW ZEALAND
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya)
Subject: Re: Star Wars Theme
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.012447.3212@muddcs.claremont.edu> bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan) writes:
>This is the tab to the Star Wars theme.  Just figured it out myself
:
>if I made any mistakes.
>
>e-----------------3---------3------------|
>B---------3-1-0-----3-1-0-----3-1-0-1----|
>G-------0-------2---------2-----------2--|  <--- repeat
>D-0-0-0----------------------------------|
>A----------------------------------------|
>E----------------------------------------|
>
>e --------------------------------------------------|
>B ---------1-0--------------------------1-0-----3---|
>G -------------2-0-0-2-4-2------------------2-0---2-|
>D -0-0-2-2-----------------2-4--0-0-2-2-------------|
>A --------------------------------------------------|
>E --------------------------------------------------|
>
>e----------------------------------3-1----------------|
>B------------------------------3-3-----4-3-1-0-----3--|
>G---------1-0----------------------------------2-0----|
>D-------------2-0-0-2-4-2-----------------------------|
>A-0-0-2-2-----------------2-4-------------------------|
>E-----------------------------------------------------|
>

3 weeks, eh? That's pretty good! I know how you feel, because when I started 
out I figured out how to play GTR's "When The Heart Rules The Mind" and I
was damn proud of yself, too. Keep Rockin' dude

BTW, the last section should be:

-----3-1----------------|     Yeah, I play stuff like that, too. 
-3-3-----4-3-1-------3--|     How about Han and Leia's theme off the
---------------3-2-1----|     "Empire" Soundtrack? That has a cool
------------------------|     melody, you know.
------------------------|
------------------------|     -Masa

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From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: My 15 year Mistake (learning to play)
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:54:50 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I had this same kind of an experience. I picked up the guitar fairly late, but
I made a lot of progress... the problem was I learned only leads, having no
interest in rhythm. I jammed with friends, jammed with tapes, whatever. But
then when I wanted to write a song I would have greats melodies but no good
chord changes or techniques for noodling with chords. 

So I stopped playing lead at all for a wghile, concentrated on rhythm and now
feel much better about my playing. I don't think the time was wasted, but it
can be a big mistake. I also don't think you have to start by strumming "Hey
Jude" over and over again, but don't IGNORE the rhythm as so many people do.

One interesting thing, because I was in rural Alaska and had  no access to
teachers or lessons, I lkearned through mail-order lessons and tab. I love
tab, and have no problem with it at all, but it does lead a person to ignoring
the rhythm sometimes... after all, it is cool to get a great lick under your
fingers, and the wya most tab indicates chords makes it  a pain to go the head
of a song and look up the chord, then try to play it, then try to derive the
time.. it is much easier to pick out the single notes (out of sheer
laziness)... 

Basically, I agree with the sentiment of the person that feels he made a 15
year mistake, but it is not that it was all a waste of time... I too wish I
could go back and lay in the foundation instead of doing it the hard way. But
that's me... 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: George Thoroughgood and Queen
From: phys174@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:51:43 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

For any George Thoroughgood fans out there:
The other day I figured out the solo in his version of Treat Her Right.
If anybody is interested in how it goes then I'll consider writing
it out and posting it. The rythm is real easy too - just a twelve
bar blues type progression. Once again - if there's interest...
I'll post more explicit details.

Now for a request:
Following my success with G.T. I decided to have a go at the groovey
solo in Queen's Crazy Little Thing Called Love (a brilliant pub band
song). Unfortunately I hit a brick wall after about the first two bars
(Brain May is a bit more complex than George!). If there is anybody
out there who can shed some light on this song - it would be much
appreciated. Here's what I know about it:
The rythm is pretty simple - just G C D progressions with a few transition
chords (with of course the classic D/Dsus4 intro).
The solo sounds as if its played around the 10-12-13th position on the
EBG strings i.e. a minor pentatonic type scale in the key of D - but as
I say after about the first two bars I'm lost. 

To anybody that knows anything about it... Help Please!

-John Laban
 Dept. of Physics, University of Canterbury, New Zealand(Where!)
 email: phys174@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: china@milton.u.washington.edu (Marshall Stack)
Subject: Re: THEORY . .?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:26:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.111136.20670@exu.ericsson.se> exubrst@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>In article 203657WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu, WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu () writes:
>> 
>>  ALL great music comes from the
>>          creative soul. . . .
>>    NOT from THEORY books!
>
>
>Yes, but one should at least know
>Italian before attempting to sing
>opera.
>
>---
>Brad Steele

Why would anyone want to sing opera? ;)  I just wanna sing!

Pablo China.
From: blane@rocket.sanders.lockheed.com (Mike Blane)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: looking for a teacher in NH
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:08:44 GMT
Distribution: alt.guitar
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.

I've been hacking around for the past few years on a old classical acoustic
and have finally decided to get serious.  I just bought my first steel string
and am now looking for a good teacher in the Nashua, NH area who will patiently
help me unlearn my (most likely) bad habits.  Any recommendations?
I know it's a stupidly long address, but please reply directly to
blane@rocket.sanders.lockheed.com

Thanks in advance....

Michael
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: paul@Everest.Tandem.COM (Paul Duffy)
Subject: Re: Mesa/Boogie preamps
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:25:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.232557.25264@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v088ptfu@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Kunta Kinte) writes:
>Does anybody out there have one?  I know that there are several different ones
>(the quad, studio, tri axis) and would appreciate any input from anyone who
>owns one or has a good knowledge of the capabilities and sound.  I'm looking
>to buy a preamp for a rack system and boogies seem to be very versatile and
>popular as well.  Also if anyone has a used one that they want to sell, E-mail
>me and send me some info on the unit.  I'd like to try one but I'm open to 
>another brand if I hear good things about it.
>
>Thanks mucho

I bought the Studio preamp a couple of weeks ago, used, for
$425.  So far I think it's very good.  I had played thru
lots of others in stores over the past two months, not
much liking anything (too thin, two unnatural etc.)

From what I've heard lately the tri-axis doesn't actually
sound better than the studio pre-amp, but I haven't A-B'd
them myself.

If you use one don't turn the pre-gain up too much.

- Paul -
From: opnsmurf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Da Smurf)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Wanted: La Villa Strangiato
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:07:00 GMT
Organization: ... or lack thereof.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Hey. Does anyone have tab or know how to play the intro to
La Villa Strangiato (RUSH)? I found the bass tab to it.. if anyone has
the guitar solo from the middle of the song i would be interested
in this too. tanks. 


Jm. 'Smurfo'
From: wade@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Tab request: American Girl (Petty)
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:26:39 GMT

I am also seeking tab for American Girl by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.
Thanks for any assistance.

Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
From: krothman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ken Rothman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: BOSS CE-1 Chorus Ensemble
Keywords: beast, analog
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:15:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr13.221543.7194
Organization: Brandeis University

I just picked up an ancient Boss CE-1 for $30.

Can someone give me some info on this monster?

The serial # is something like 757879 so it is kinda tough to try to
garner a manufacture year from that...

any info/insights would be appreciated.


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From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Rockman Was: distortion boxes?
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:04:05 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <GRIGSBY.92Apr10004442@occs.cs.oberlin.edu>,
grigsby@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Spiral Death Trap) writes:
> Rockmans (rockmen?) are way expensive and only give you about five different
> sounds, which is OK if you like them but I get sick of it quickly.  I use a
> Butler "Real Tube" and like it a lot: good low-end for that rhythm crunch.
> It's a little on the sloppy end, so if you're looking for tight distortion
> try something solid-state.  Lists around $120, I got mine used for $60. // g

True, Rockmans give you a really creamy sound, but it's too much sugar after
all. They als sound very non-personal, think about all guitar solos recorded 
with a Rockman, sigh...

Actually, does anyone know the saga of the Rockman amp (2 *100W) that was
released a couple of years ago? Did anyone buy any of those? Were they also
too much Rockman sounding? They looked like really small, which would be
great for my poor back :-).

Cheers,
Kent
From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Sweaty fingers
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:25:50 GMT
	<19526@chopin.udel.edu> <29E496A5.5628@noiro.acs.uci.edu>
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


In article <29E496A5.5628@noiro.acs.uci.edu> jgray@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Jeff Gray) writes:
>
>>>[previous discussions of corrosive sweat deleted]<<
>
>I used to use rubbing alcohol to get all the grunge and sweat off the strings
>when I was done playing but stumbled across lemon oil, which I used on occasion
>to treat the fretboard.  It seems to work pretty well -- the oil seems
>to coat the strings and prevent oxygen from corroding them when you're not
>playing, although this is just a theory.

I use lemon oil to treat my fretboard after I've cleaned it.  I hate
it for the first few days because it makes the strings so slick that
my fingers slip when bending.  But a well-conditioned fretboard sounds
great so its worth it.

I've heard of folks boiling their strings to get more mileage out of them.
And you should always wipe your string down after playing.  Alcohol is
great for cleaning grunge off strings, but it'll dry out the fretboard
so you want to be careful.

I basically replace strings about every couple of weeks.  I just like the
sound of fairly fresh strings (although brand spanking new ones are a bit
too bright).  If you think that's quite a bit, get this -- I usually
replace picks every couple days!  The edge of the tip gets a bit worn away
and the tone degrades.  Of course, I play *alot*, so that accounts for
most of it.  To help keep down expenses, I buy my strings and picks in
bulk.  Strings end up costing about $2.25 a set (if I buy at least 12
sets at a time) and I can get a year's worth of picks for about $20.


David.
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