HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: richard@borneo.gmd.de (Richard Czech)
Subject: Re: time output... how to capture when running batch jobs?
Reply-To: richard@borneo.gmd.de
Organization: GMD, German National Research Center for Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:09:23 GMT

In article <BvvC4v.4yv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Eric C. Garrison
<ericg@sopwith.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
|> The thing is, I am not sure how to redirect the output of
|> time to another file.  Even redirecting the stderr to
|> a file produces no output.

Try this in Bourne Shell:

	time myprog 2> time.out

Time writes it's output to stderr.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jawil@hpx5.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens)
Subject: Buggy anim players.
Organization: AID
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:28:07 GMT

I've got hold of two anim players for Unix (X-Windows), named xanim (for
the ANIM-5 format (Amiga IFF anims files)) and xflick (for the FLI format).
The only problem is that they are very buggy... They don't clear the screen
properly after each frame, and this leads to very much junk in the anims.
Has anybody got an animplayer (formats: TIF, ANIM-5 and GL) that will work
properly? (If you have, please give me the adress for a FTP site that has them
or uuencode and meail them to me.)
(I'm also looking for BIG animations.. Anybody know of any FTP sites that
supports this?)

-- 
                               Jan Roger Wilkens
                     Student at Agder Engeeniering School
                               Computer Technics

                           EMail: jawil@hpx11.aid.no
From: erik@peewee.nwc.navy.mil (Erik van Bronkhorst       Code 3814                               Phone 939-1421)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: weird behaviour of sed
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:00:42 GMT
Organization: NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV, China Lake

In article <Bw4rn8.9ow@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> krisk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Kris Klindworth) writes:
>mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it writes:
>
>>My man page (SunOs 4.1.2) for sed says that 
>>           s/regular expression/replacement/flags
>>change the regular expression into the replacement and defers to ed(1).
>>ed says that it is the first occurrence of a string which match the RE to be
>>substituted. Fine.
>
>>So, if z is a file containing the line 
>>	asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh
>>the command  sed 's/.*gf/GF/1' z should return 
>>GFh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh
>>, shouldn't it? Well, it returns just GFh .
>
>>Which is the reason of this behaviour? and how can I accomplish my goal?
>
>>regards, .mau.
>
>I don't think it's well documented but the regular expression takes the
>LONGEST pattern which matches.  In your case that was everything from
>the beginning of the line to the last "gf".  That's the why.
>
>I'll be greatly interested to see if anyone can answer the how question
>without going to another program.

This is a sticky one indeed.  I seriously doubt if the file you wish
to sed really looks much like this
	asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh
In other words, your file is probably such that one could construct
a pattern that would work by taking a different approach.
Anyway, to do what you want to the above line is beyond the basic
capability of sed (as far as I can tell).  However, you can exploit
the exact same behaviour that vexes you to solve the problem.  It
requires two sed commands however.

if z is a file containing the line 
	asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh
the command  sed 's/gf\(.*\)/GF\1/' z | sed 's/.*G/G/' should return 
GFh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh

-- 
Erik van Bronkhorst KC6UUT DoD#4342585443 AMA#[classified]
"Truth is false and logic lost, now the fourth dimension is crossed..."
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From: eli@spdcc.com (Steve Elias)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Unix Fax Servers
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:03:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct8.010316.16493
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA


 sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne) writes:
> eli@spdcc.com (Steve Elias) writes:
>>those concerned with legalities might want to 
>>note that faxback is a patented thang (IFF the fax is
>>sent out via a separate phone call.)
>
>We'll also note that there are several good examples of the technology
>concerned that pre-date the patent application date that should lead to
>the patent being thrown out if and when it gets to court. 

i think that's absolute hogwash, but to each his own.

>The patent covers use of signals (i.e. DTMF tones) to control the delivery
>of faxes from a computer system.

i think the above statement overstates what the patent covers.

> For example, Globefax a service like this 
>was in place and being offerred commercially in Canada in January of 1988 by
>Teleglobe Canda.  The patent application date is May 11, 1988.

sorry, but i reject your armchair patent lawyering and do not
want to engage in that any more than i've already done.

let's let the lawyers deal with that crap elsewhere
and keep only the crucial tech info here, eh?  in this case, 
the crucial info is that there is a patent.  

>I've only been peripherally involved so I don't have uptodate details
>but it's my understanding that there is currently an industry group that
>will be sponsoring a challenge.

you've gotta be kidding.
an industry group?  why would it take an "industry group" to fight 
such a nice little fish company's patent?  (rhetorical question).

/eli
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From: capistra@andromeda.rutgers.edu (M P Capistrano)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: .forward question
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:16:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



How can I have my mails forwarded to a certain address but still keep
the copy in my current address?  
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: arthum@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Michael Rene Arthur)
Subject: Desperately Seeking an FAQ
Reply-To: arthum@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:17:13 GMT

Question:  Is there an FAQ for this newsgroup, and if so, how often is it
posted?
From: mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: weird behaviour of sed
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:27:20 GMT

My man page (SunOs 4.1.2) for sed says that 
           s/regular expression/replacement/flags
change the regular expression into the replacement and defers to ed(1).
ed says that it is the first occurrence of a string which match the RE to be
substituted. Fine.

So, if z is a file containing the line 
	asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh
the command  sed 's/.*gf/GF/1' z should return 
GFh asdfgh asdgfh asdfgh asdgfh
, shouldn't it? Well, it returns just GFh .

Which is the reason of this behaviour? and how can I accomplish my goal?

regards, .mau.
From: poosala@cs.wisc.edu (Viswanath Poosala)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: File name from inode
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:50:42 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

Hi,
	We recently implemented a Process Migration mechanism
on SUN m/cs.  We wasted a great deal of time trying to get the
names of files that are currently opened by the process to be
migrated. The info available was just the inode numbers of the
opened files.

	It will be nice if someone spares time to answer my question.
Is there ANY way of getting the file name(s) associated with 
given Inode number?
		Thanks in advance,
				-Vishy
-- 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sysv386
From: bent@openage.openage.com (Ben Taylor)
Subject: Cache Ram causing a panic?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:12:24 GMT
Summary: Has anyone else seen this?
Keywords: disk cache-ram disk-io

I have a 486/50DX EISA machine with 20 MB of Ram, a 330 MB and a 1.0 GB hard
disk, a 1742 Adaptec controller and a Mylex LNE390A ethernet adapter.  The 
motherboard has 256k of 20 nanosecond Cache Ram. The motherboard is, as far
as I can tell, an Opti, with AMI Bios.  We are running ISC 3.0, SYSVR3.2.

The previous motherboard we had was non-functional and had caused some ghost
problems....  Anyway, the box is a screamer, except for on problem.  When I
start doing major disk access (untarring a 40MB archive) the machine will
panic on cue.  We had our tech in this morning, and he turned off the 
external cache, as a test.  Now, running concurrent untars, the machine
does not panic.  They think that the cache ram may not be fast enough.
Personally, I think the cache is not up being updated, or the ram is not
being updated as the cache is.  Has anyone seen a problem like this?
If you are running an EISA/cache configuration, let me know if you've
seen the problem or not.

Thanks!

Ben Taylor
Sr. Systems Analyst
Andrulis Research Corporation
bent@openage.openage.com
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From: WOODFORDM@v3.hanscom.af.mil (Mark Woodford)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: In search of... Hardware/Software recommendations
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:59:25 GMT

Greetings,

We are in the process of evaluating Unix platforms for our site.  The idea is
to get the "most bang for the buck".  The machine is to be used mainly as a
central server for a database engine (ORACLE, or some reasonable equivalent).
What I am hoping to get from folks in 'netland' is any thoughts on what type of
machined should be used.  Factors which should be considered are:

		1) Price/Performance
		2) Standards compliance (POSIX)
		3) Ease of installation/maintenance
		4) expandability/adaptability
		5) anything else not covered in 1-4

Please send any lauds and applauds, flames, comments, thoughts or items of 
general interest via mail and I will summarize if requested.  If there is an
additional or better place for this to be posted, please let me know.

							Thanks.


---------
Mark Woodford					WOODFORDM@GW1.HANSCOM.AF.MIL
Computer Sciences Corporation, Applied Technology Division
USAF ESC/SC, Hanscom AFB, Lexington, MA
Disclaimer: The opinions and ideas expressed are my own as my employer does
            not generally allow opinions and ideas without a prior written
            request filled out in triplicate.
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Profiling on shared library..
Date: 9 Oct 1992 21:00:58 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <tjt.718655662@sparc-10> tjt@blink.att.com (Tim Thompson) writes:
>Can you use -Bstatic when compiling a program that uses -ldl ?

No.  libdl.so.* is actually a dummy routine, and the dlopen(), et al,
routines are actually in ld.so, which is only linked into
dynamically-linked executables.

However, it's possible to have a mixture of dynamic and static linking in a
program, so you may be able to do this by only linking libdl dynamically.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
From: spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Removing inodes?
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:12:07 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

I've got a corrupted directory entry in lost+found that I can't get rid
of. Using fsck doesn't work, it goes through the motions of fixing the
filesystem but when I reboot fsck aborts and requests that I run it
manually. This always detects the same corrupted directory entry.

Is there some way of deleting this file by fixing the inode that fsck
isn't capable of?
-- 
  Paul Richards at Cardiff university, UK.

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From: tmilner@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Tom Milner)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:08:06 GMT
Subject: Re: time output... how to capture when running batch jobs?
Organization: Performance Technology Center, Roseville
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions

In comp.unix.questions, ericg@sopwith.ucs.indiana.edu (Eric C. Garrison) writes:

|    I had a question posed to me that I couldn't answer regarding
|    the time program.  The guy wants to run a very long job on
|    a Sun workstation and also wants to see how much CPU time
|    it takes at the end of the job.  He's running a program
|    written in FORTRAN, if it matters.
|
|    The thing is, I am not sure how to redirect the output of
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|    time to another file.  Even redirecting the stderr to
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Try:  ( time echo himom ) > timeout


|    a file produces no output.
|
|    Any ideas?
|
|    Eric
|
|    -- 
|    Eric Chris Garrison			      UCS Support Center
|    ericg@ucs.indiana.edu			      Indiana University


                                  _____________________________________
                                 /_______________  ___________________/
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                                               / /
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                                             / /  HP Performance Tech Center
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: mosemann@unlinfo.unl.edu (Russell Mosemann)
Subject: tset when term=vt300 (a.k.a. offering a choice)
Summary: How do you offer a choice from tset when term is unknown?
Keywords: tset term unknown
Reply-To: mosemann@unl.edu
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:59:31 GMT

   I would like to put a line in my .login so that when I login from a
terminal with an unknown type, tset will offer to use the type of vt100.
Otherwise, I want it to go ahead with the original terminal type.
   For example, if I login from a terminal that advertises itself as a
vt300, term and TERM are set accordingly.  tset says it is unknown and
wants to use unknown as the type.

eval `tset -sQ`
Type vt300 unknown
TERM = (unknown)

   How can I get it to say TERM = (vt100) for this unknown vt300 (and
any other unknown terminals, I don't want to type all of the unknown
terminal types in)?  Any nifty ideas?  These terminals would be marked
as network in ttytab.  As a side question, is there any place where I can
get definitions for a vt300 and a vt400?  Thanks.
--
Russell
mosemann@unl.edu
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Subject: getty command
To: Listserv for UNIX questions
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Where can I get source code for the getty command?

Thank you for your assistance.

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From: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Exec-ing after KILL -TERM 1
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 00:50:53 EDT
Organization: 5 Sigma Software
Reply-To: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


Thanks, I have some answers now.

I will get the hang of this silly OS one of these days.  Probably
just as I move to something else.

:-)

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From: martyn.dowell@cen.jrc.it (Martyn Dowell)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:35:49 GMT

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: georgn@noweh.com (Georg S. Nikodym)
Subject: Re: comminicating with devices
Organization: Noweh Software
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:53:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.055849.7226@menudo.uh.edu> cavers@menudo.uh.edu (Chris M. Cavers) writes:
>I would like to get some hints on what is the best way to
>communicate with a device driver.

Open it ;-)

>Specifically, I have written a disk device driver.
>I would like to have a user level process communicate with
>the device and the device with the user level process.
>I would like to use message queues but am unsure of the effects
>of crossing the kernel/user boundary.  The main concern is 
>that the device should wake up whenever a message arrives and the message
>handling should not interfere with the normal device operations of
>the disk device driver...

It might be helpful to know what you want to do and why, since the way
you've presented your question makes me say, "Huh?!?"

Anyway, you should be aware that message queues are an IPC (Inter-Process
Communication) service provided by the kernel for user-level processes.
In short, this probably isn't what you want.

One way to achieve process to driver communication is via the ioctl(2)
mechanism.  Ie, you add support for various ioctl() calls to your driver
that would perform some useful function.

There isn't really any way for a driver to signal user level processes if
nobody's paying attention.

Another option might be to implement your driver as a STREAMS driver
(which probably isn't a good idea in the case of disks) and then you
might be able to create a STREAMS module that could effect the stuff
you want.

Sorry I can't be more complete, but lacking a good definition of your
problem/needs all I can do is supply information based on my assumptions
of your goals.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: talk(1) on non-Sun machine problem
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:21:44 GMT

I'm using talk on a NeXT 3.0 system and when I try to talk to someone on a  
non-Sun machine (a Sequent Symmetry Dynix machine, to try to be more precise),  
I get "Target machine does not recognize us" instead of "Your party is not  
logged on" when the remote user isn't logged on.  How can I fix this to return  
the right messages for the right circumstances?

One good thing is that if I talk to someone who is on and has messaging on, the  
command works fine and returns all the right messages.

Any help would be most appreciated, thanks.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: kbornhor@vangogh.helios.nd.edu 
Subject: /dev/audio permissions
Reply-To: kbornhor@vangogh.helios.nd.edu 
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:31:08 GMT

This post is concerning the problem of turning off the audio device to outside
use.

Someone posted his answer which consisted of adding a line to the file
/etc/fbtab that would allow only the person logged on console the permissions
to use the /dev/audio device.

I tried using this approach while running version 4.2 but could not get it to
work.

It came up with the error Permission Denied -- evidently it gave permission to
no one...not even the user on console.

Has anyone else encountered the same problems, or does anyone recognize what
might be the problem?

Thanks.

Keith Bornhorst ( kbornhor@bach.helios.nd.edu )
From: g-yao@cs.yorku.ca (Ling Yao)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: file completion
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:27:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1490
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science

Hi, 

Can anybody know whether I am able to get a ``filename completion'' function 
(the same as or like to the built-in "filename completion" function in cshell 
in BSD) to the SCO UNIX?  
Can you let me know the site of the program if there is such a program (I have
a one for the MS-DOS and it works fantastic)?


Many thanks.



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