HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Subject: Re: alt.music.house
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:49:56 GMT

In article <BvI3KA.LKL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cs125b55@dcl-nxt04.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:
>I would like to propose the group alt.music.house.  
>[ . . . ]
>Should I consider discussing it in  
>alt.rave (which people might not like).  

I read alt.rave daily and have not noticed that you've even TRIED to 
discuss this stuff there.  Why don't you give alt.rave a try?  We're
an accepting bunch, as we were formed by getting kicked out of 
rec.music.industrial  -- we know what it's like to be yelled at, you know?

>Now, I'm talking about the House  
>music from the "old school house."  You know...Farley Jackmaster Funk,
>Jamie Principle, Robert Owens, Frankie Knuckles, and Marshall Jefferson.
>Plus, I'm interested in discussions about stuff from Ultra Nate,  
>Moccasoul, Maurice Joshua, Kym Sims, Yummy, and Mr. Fingers.  Furthermore,  

Cool!  Since techno has very deep roots in house it would be really cool 
to find out more about this so as to understand techno's roots better, and
to appreciate house for itself, too.  How about sharing your knowledge with
a group of open-minded people (like in alt.rave or rec.music.misc) rather
than forming your own little group and preaching to the converted, as it
were.

Laura
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.discordia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:02:22 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <BvCszx.DH5@acsu.buffalo.edu> bsherman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Sherman) writes:

>>It would fnord also be a great place for Discordians to meet on the Net.

>Discordians WILL meet on the net, and I think a newsgroup would trivialize
>that, plus we would get tons of wankers... see alt.subgenius if you don't
>get my meaning.

>So fNord, I for one, say Nah; don't create it.

What's a subgenius?  Sounds C00L.

And what does fnord mean?

-- 
    / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your sins!"
   /   \     fnord@panix.com                | 
  / <0> \                                   | "Don't just eat a hamburger, 
 /_______\   Church of Obfuscatology, Inc.  |  eat the HELL out of it!"
From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.dis
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:38:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

> The name may be taken wrong.
> 
> colloquially, to "dis" someone is similar to flaming them, so this
> could be construed by some as an alternative to alt.flame.
> 
> I would suggest a different name.  Otherwise, I have no particular
> objections.

Forgot about that. It stirs memory of the ill-fated alt.industrial
that was created by industrial engineers but was taken over by
industrial music fans until the engineers finally gave up.

How about alt.simulation.dis? True, it creates an extra news level. On
the other hand, it would fit under comp.simulation in the future, if the
traffic ever got up high enough to warrant a migration. It's also a more
descriptive name.

John
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twiddyd@quig12.alleg.edu (David Twiddy)
Subject: Re: PLEASE, this time CREATE alt.cthulhu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:15:07 GMT

THIS IS ANOTHER ENTHUSIASTIC VOTE FOR THE FORMATION OF ALT.CTHULHU!!!!
--

David "master of obscurity" Twiddy <twiddyd@alleg.edu>
"Small wheel turn by the fire and rod
 Big wheel turn by the Grace of GOD"
 			-Jerry Garcia
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: buc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Richards)
Subject: alt.cad.ideas newsgroup discussion waning
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:25:11 GMT

I few weeks ago I proposed the creation of

	alt.cad.ideas

to discuss the engineering package I-DEAS and CAEDS.  Since the
announcement I have only received 3 reponses (all positive).  The
newsgroup is intended to be gatewayed with an existing mailing list
discussion group

	iccon@audrey.Stanford.EDU

which has members that have expressed interest in accessing the same
information but via a newsgroup.  So could any powers that be or
anyone that supports the newsgroup or doesn't please send their voices
to me so that I do not set a group just to waste bandwidth.

Thanks

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: killfile
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:02:25 GMT

With regard to being unable to create kill files:

Anyone who has an account on a machine with a full Internet connection
may get an account on Portal, Netcom, the Well, the World, or any
other for-pay service which supplies their users with a full range of
newsreaders.  If money is a problem, they may even get an account on
the Cleveland Freenet, the FSF machines, or the Turing project (and,
I'm sure, a number of other systems I'm forgetting).  Any of these
machines will provide you with a kill file capability, I believe.

Most people who are not connected to the Internet seem to read news on
Unix boxes with UUCP connections, either under a regular newsreader or
under Waffle, or on DOS boxes.  There exists software for all of these
systems which provides threading and killfiling capability.

I'm inclined to suggest that while it may be annoying not to have a
killfiling newsreader on your system, it's also not a reason to claim
that other people are being unreasonable for suggesting the use of
kill files.  Considering the size of Usenet, kill file capability is
practically standard equipment.

(Usenet is wonderful.  It wasn't so long ago that we had this little
argument, and that time, I was arguing the opposing point of view.)

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: ucsatsd@ucl.ac.uk (-8  Big Bad Bob (B3)  8-)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.discordia
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:04:11 GMT
Organization: The HRC

In article <BvCszx.DH5@acsu.buffalo.edu> bsherman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Sherman) writes:
>sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:

>>It would fnord also be a great place for Discordians to meet on the Net.

>Discordians WILL meet on the net, and I think a newsgroup would trivialize
>that, plus we would get tons of wankers... see alt.subgenius if you don't

"Do not underESTimate the POWER of the FORCE <UHHHHHHH-HAAAAaaaaa>"

The best place to hide is in the open, and the best way to divert the foolish 
is by throwing carrots at them. What *better* way to keep all the sad, 
Wannabe-Erisians from getting in our hair than to let them have an 
alt.discordia? True discordians could have a great time winding alt.discordia
'jargon-heads' into a frenzy (again, see alt.subgenius...).

Anyway, if it would give some ideas for constructive chaos to those who might
otherwise never truly make devotion to our lady, then its got to be a good
thing.

"'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds."

- Dr. Count Episkopos Robert 'Bob' Balthazaar, BBB, PhD, Multidimensional
Walker in Chaos, KNS, Grand High Hotdog of the Hotdog Reformative Church.(B3)
--
                                  |   "Everything is true, even false things."
        *****     B3     *****    | "Even false things? How can that be??"
                                  |   "Dont ask me man, I didn't do it!"
    | ucsatsd@ucl.ac.uk // perhaps via nsf.ac.uk if you get desperate..... |  
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: alt.music.house
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:54:59 GMT

In article <braptcc@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>cs125b55@dcl-nxt04.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:
>
>> Although most of the current House songs have that techno sound (which
>> is appropriate in alt.rave), where is it appropriate for classic
>> House, R&B/House, and Garage House music discussions? 
>
>Rec.music.misc.  Maybe you've heard of it.
>
	
	I think the name says it all though.  Rec.music.misc--  it's right up 
there with comp.sys.misc or rec.crafts.misc. The very idea is almost a joke.
That's why the alt.music.* hierarchy is so vibrant and alive.

	Fortunately, the rec.music.* hierarchy looks like it's _finally_
going to be doing some sensible splitting-up.  Rec.music.reggae is probably 
going to be created soon and I suspect other splits will follow. Rec.music.
bluenote is likely to split into rec.music.jazz and rec.music.blues as well.  

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: rtrnw@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Neroli Wesley)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: architecture
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:36:32 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au


Chris Blanger asked whether the alt.architecture newsgroup has been
established.  Stephen Peter replied::


>We (Dennis Lu & I) asked our news sys. admin. person to issue a "newgroup"
>which happened about a week ago (here).  I don't know too much about how all
>this works, but I would think that the group should be available there now!

I am logging on at RMIT and I haven't seen it yet either (although it is
eagerly awaited!)

Neroli
From: bsherman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Sherman)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.discordia
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:48:41 GMT
Organization: UB

lesmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lee Harvey Oswald Smith) writes:

>And besides, Eris is not being sold to the masses, Ninja Turtle-fashion, here.


I think we should sell it Ninja-Turtle fashion!  Yeehaw!  THe adventures of
Eris, coming soon to a Saturday morning near you!

"Bobby, why are you watching that cartoon about the crazy black woman again!?"
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: alt.music.house
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 21:06:30 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:

> Rec.music.misc--  it's right up there with comp.sys.misc or
> rec.crafts.misc.  The very idea is almost a joke. 

To someone whose musical tastes don't encompass more than one or two kinds
of music, maybe.  Fortunately there are plenty of people on the net who don't
think that kind of pigeonholing is necessary (or even good).

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"You're my orchestra of one."
From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Info-PGP Mailing List
Keywords: info-pgp mailing list
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:47:25 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

hmiller@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Hugh Miller) writes:
> In <ymTJRB4w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
> >I didn't see alt.security.pgp discussed on alt.config.  Many sites refuse to
> >carry alt groups which have not been mentioned in alt.config.  Perhaps if
> >you'd discussed the newsgroup properly instead of just blindly creating it, 
> >lot more people would have access to it and the mailing list wouldn't be
> >necessary.
> 
>     What you say about alt.config may have some validity, but a digest would
> still have been necessary for the many hundreds of sites, many big, which
> refuse to carry ANY alt groups.
>     Is it too late to get some notification of alt.security.pgp into
> alt.config?

Probably not, as in this case a fairly sensible name seems to have been
chosen.

I'm just annoyed because I want to see PGP 2 become widespread, and that
means I'd like to see the newsgroup get wide distribution.  Also, I've missed
the start of it because nobody bothered to notify the net (via alt.config)
that the newsgroup was being created.  Newgroup messages don't always make it
to the far corners of the net, you know.


mathew
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Xref: sparky alt.config:6088 alt.folklore.ghost-stories:608 alt.horror:4344
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.horror
Subject: Re: PLEASE, this time CREATE alt.cthulhu
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:31:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config

In <1arnjjINNn8l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu) writes:


> > Based on recent discussions in alt.config and
> > alt.folklore.ghost-stories, I think a newsgroup for Cthulhu would
> > make sense.  If there are no objections, I'll send out a newgroup
> > for alt.horror.cthulhu in the next couple of days.

>Sounds good to me!  Let's get some REAL Lovecraftian discussions going.

all right!!!  sounds like a REAL winner!!  

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore

"What you call hell, he calls a children's story!"

	Cthulhu
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Bogus newsgroups 
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 01:06:19 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway. Parnell New Zealand

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:

> Hey Jon, fuck off and die. You still haven't explained why you're so
> completely clueless that you can't even create an alt group even though you
> claim to have been reading alt.config. My hypothesis is that you're
> mindbogglingly stupid, but that's just a guess at this point.
> 
> However, I would like to offer one or two words of congratulations, it's
> nice to see that you can muster the IQ points necessary to construct
> grammatically correct sentences when you put the remnants of your mind to
> it. I hope it continues.
 I should not bother to reply to such a meaningless article in this news 
group with launguage befiting a gutter snipe but as I have I refer you to 
yout WAFFLE control group, if you know HOW TO READ it and you will see
indeed as create alt.znet.fnet message in it. 
 
Not only this but if you takr the time to poll your hub at Massey Uni you 
will be informed by them that their postmaster even knew of this fact a6t 
(make that at) the same time you posted this message in fact assuming 
your time is correct some 24hrs before hand.
 
So to lower myself to your level, "make like sex and travel".
 
(oh dear 0215 gmt takes the toll in this message my HO)

                                                  _
 Jon Clarke                                     o( )       
 jonc@status.gen.nz                            /  /\        GE: J.CLARKE6
 The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand      HSBC NZM  EBD
From: rpwhite@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: killfile
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:46:54 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config,alt.newbie,alt.test,alt.religion.kibology
Organization: Monterey Bay Yacht Club, Monterey CA

jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr) writes:

>Somewhere in the news.announce.newusers files that get posted, there's a note
>to the effect that it's bad manners to assume that everyone reads news on a
>UNIX box somewhere.  

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztt!!!!!!!!

What that note really says is that it is bad manners to read news on other
than a UNIX box. It's even worse manners to discuss your software
shortcomings on the net.

rp -- hope this helps.

UNIX is a registered trademark of UNIX System Laboratories, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: That Stupid Subject line
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:21:49 GMT

richh@netcom.com (richh) writes:
: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
: 
: >Aw but people like Carasso and his friend RICHH give Netcom character, so that
: >the quiet people like me don't have to work so hard! :)
: 
: puhlease, Tyger.
: Carasso and I "friends"??
: Hardly.
: We just happen to all have accounts at you know where.
: And spend way too much time on the net.
: 


There's a hell of a lot more "character" at Portal than Netcom will ever
have.  Maybe Carasso should get an account there.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen much net.bilge out of PSUVM lately,
either.
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
"Recession: your friend loses his job.  Depression: you lose your job.
Recovery: Bush loses his job" - Bill Davidsen
From: sbrackstone@admin1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conference-ctr
Subject: Financial Aspects of Conference Centers
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:08:27 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

A seminar on "The Financial Aspects of Conference Centers" will be 
offered November 22-24.  Topics include:

Measuring Productivity
Analysing Food Costs
Accounting Software Packages
Finacial Analysis and useful financial reports
Using the Uniform System of Accounts for Conference Centers
Univque Aspects of university accounting systems

For more information contact the IACC office
314-993-8575
fax 314-993-8919
Newsgroups: alt.conference-ctr
From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: XPost "Re: Frustration..."
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:46:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Date: 23 Sep 92  20:44:00
Message-Id: <Fredgate.717709841@fquest>
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Frustration...
To: lindae@netcom.com
Status: OR

LI>From: lindae@netcom.com
LI>Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)



LI>You know, as I sit here each day, typing in these postings, this
information
LI>about missing, abused, and exploited children, I often get very
LI>frustrated.  You see, I realize that most of you reading this are
LI>normal, law-abiding citizens who would never abduct or abuse a child.
LI>So, I wonder, is this information really doing any good?  I mean, the
LI>people who really need to see this stuff are the abductors and the
LI>abusers.  They need to know what they are doing to the innocent children
LI>of the world.

LI>I don't know how many of you saw the television show 48 hours this past
LI>week, but as I watched the families of these missing kids, I couldn't
LI>help getting angry.  Angry because agencies such as Child Quest, the
LI>Heidi Search Center, the National Center for Missing and Exploited
LI>Children, and so many others are putting so much time, energy,
LI>and love into saving our children and yet there are just as many
LI>people out there who are stealing, beating, raping, and killing
LI>these kids.

LI>Well, I just felt the need to vent that frustration... so there
LI>it is...

LI>Thanks for listening...

LI>lindae@netcom.com

  Linda, it is worth the effort.  After two years I have found that
  there are many caring individuals who want to do something.  Remember
  that one of the purposes of this echo, message area is to let people
  know there is a problem.
    If one person stands near a young child until his/her parent gets to
  them then they may prevent an abduction.
   You and I know the depravities dealing with missing children and the
   sorrow of dealing with the parents of a murdered child, if by being
   here we can save one family that sorrow then it is worth all of the
   time and energy.
     Later, Marv
From: jack.casey@madness.network23.com (Jack Casey) 
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: MISSING KIDS!
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:09:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: jack.casey@madness.network23.com (Jack Casey) 


-> Hello?   Hello? This is the missing kids conference. Why is everyone
-> else missing as well?????

I was wondering the same thing? Maybe kids who are missing don't have
modems? In any event, I am not missing. I found myself today. I hope
that makes you feel a little better, (although I'm not technically a
"kid"). Better times are coming!
From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: XPost "CPS"
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:48:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

From: Peggy.Mcbride@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Peggy Mcbride)
Date: 24 Sep 92  12:33:07
Message-Id: <Fredgate.717709844@fquest>
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Frustration...
To: lindae@netcom.com
Status: OR

-> You know, as I sit here each day, typing in these postings, this info
-> about missing, abused, and exploited children, I often get very
-> frustrated.  You see, I realize that most of you reading this are
-> normal, law-abiding citizens who would never abduct or abuse a child.
-> So, I wonder, is this information really doing any good?  I mean, the
-> people who really need to see this stuff are the abductors and the
-> abusers.  They need to know what they are doing to the innocent child
-> of the world.
 
I agree totally with what you said, but also this forum can help people
like us, decide that the RIGHT Thing to do is to go to the authoritys
with the information.
 
State Law varys on what can be done, when a case is reported, and many
people do not know those laws, do not know that their name will never
have to be used, (at least here in the state of Michigan), dont know,
that if they only suspect, they do not have to call CPS, they can
simply call the local police department, and the youth officer will
investigate the charge.
 
Having seen up close, what CPS can do to familys here in the State of
Michigan, I would not report anyone to CPS, I would find some other way
of getting the child/parent help.  Once a parent is reported to CPS
here in Michigan, whether there is any substance to the report, the
parent is "marked" by the state and can literally go thru hell trying
to prove their innocence in the matter. 
 
When my son was 14, and out of control, I begged the police department
to help me, I was told to call CPS, and to call the County Services.  I
thank God, I got a decent worker at CPS, he told me, Yes, he could help
me, but when they took it to court, that I would be the "criminal",
because I would be charged with neglect where this teenager was
concerned.

Too many people are under the impression that CPS always helps, that is
not always the case.
From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: XPost "New BBS"
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:35:34 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

From: Dan.Ross@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Dan Ross)
Date: 24 Sep 92  15:34:00
Message-Id: <Fredgate.717709844@fquest>
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: missing children
To: lindae@netcom.com
Status: OR

hiya all, my name is dan ross, i work for A.M.C.U america's missing childrens
unit in council bluffs iowa.
my job is: to find missing children. i had a idea, by running a missing 
childrens bbs. i will be uploading this board missing children GIF files.
please take the time to look at them. plus you can call my bbs, Up All Night 
Node-1 at 712-328-8385, if you need any info on this. i thank you very much.
lets bring our missing children HOME !!