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From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.x.x Finder Heap Allocation ?
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:38:18 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

In article <1992Sep2.191821.22486@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman ) writes:
> 
> sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander) writes:
......
> : 
> : What SWATCH (a pretty neat little app) showed was that the finder heap is the problem.
> : It is fixed at around 263K (or close to it, maybe it varies from machine to machine ?)
> : and sure enough, its free space which is usually around a measly 4K sometimes sinks
> : to 500 bytes, followed by the OOM message.
.......
> : So, the question is how to increase the finder heap allocation to
> : make the problem less likely to occur. I tried ResEditing the Finder to increase the
> : allocation, but the system will not boot with the edited copy.
.........
> I have had the same problem on a number of machines along with assorted bombs
> due to "bad f-line instruction" errors.  I used ResEdit to change Finder's
> memory allocation up to 358400  in the SIZE=-1 resource.  The problems went
> away afterwords.  
.......
> 
> AS ALWAYS WITH RESEDIT DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!
> 
> --
> Greg Berryman       gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com
> Motorola Inc.       Austin Texas
> 
> 

Quite right. I must have messed up the Finder the first time I tried ResEditing
it (as was also pointed out in private mailings). ResEdit did do the job and my Mac
is much more comfortable !

-Sven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Subject: Re: JPG to GIF or PICT converter
Reply-To: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:29:18 GMT

I will be posting shortly (to the alt.binaries.pictures.utilities group)
ported versions of djpeg, giftoppm, ppmquant, pnmscale, cjpeg, & ppmtogif.  
I have done the minor changes necessary to get them to work with Think_C.  
Also, I have optimized the hell out of ppmquant.  It's still slow, but it's
at least 15% faster than the original version (I haven't done any real timing
yet, just estimates based on the output from the profiler).

For those of you who don't know, ppmquant is from a set of UNIX utils called
PBMplus.  I think that it is about the best quantizer around.  It has an option
for floyd-steinberg dithering as well.
	djpeg    - jpeg to ppm
	giftoppm - gif to ppm
	ppmquant - quantizer for ppm images
	pnmscale - scales a ppm image
	cjpeg    - ppm to jpeg
	ppmtogif - ppm to gif

to convert from jpeg to gif, I have found this to be an excellent method:
	(UNIX piping format - on Mac, my version uses Think_C cconsole)
	djpeg image.jpg | ppmquant -fs 256 | ppmtogif >image.gif

To shrink an image (by half in each dimension), this works great:
	djpeg image.jpg | pnmscale .5 | ppmquant -fs 256 | ppmtogif >image.gif

To shrink a gif image, this works MUCH better than the scaling in most gif 
viewers because the pixels are averaged and the image is re-quantized.
	giftoppm image.gif | pnmscale .5 | ppmquant -fs 256 | ppmtogif >image2.gif

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Brunner - (brunner@bnr.ca)
All opinions are my own and have nothing whatsoever to do with BNR, NT,
NTI, Bell Canada, or any of the BCE corporations or affiliates.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu (Bruce Carter)
Subject: Re: Strange Tone Sequence During Startup.
Organization: Boise State University - CBI Product Development
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:10:25 GMT

In article <sold.89.715288516@kit.uni-kl.de> sold@kit.uni-kl.de (Christoph
Sold) writes:
>Thus, the four-tone sequence tells you the fourth hardware test failed. To 
>put it short: This Mac is broken. Have a dealer reapair it.
>Before doing so, check your SCSI cabling. This is the only source of 
>hardware-failures you can fix yourself.

This is not strictly true.  We have been able to evoke the four-tone sequence
with blown system files, and by trying to boot newer machines with very old
system disks.
                                     <->
Bruce Carter, CBI Product Development                bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu
Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             (208)385-1851@phone
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: sys7 (also 7.0 vs. 7.0.1)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:53:44 GMT

Well, I recently had my mac at work switched to sys7 and now need to
decide about my mac here at home.  (IIsi 3/40 w/coprocessor 12"BW)

About sys7:
  1.  Should I be concerned about RAM?  sys7 will need about 2meg
      and I'm concerned that I'll leave myself short on RAM even
      with virtual memory.  (PS how slow is VM?)  I think I could get
      away with a minimal set of fonts here (no printer) but don't know
      if that makes an appreciable difference in size.

  2.  Will the BW moitor be a problem with sys7?  It isn't a big deal
      now.

7.0 vs. 7.0.1
  1.  At work 7.0 w/tuneup was installed.  Should I go with 7.0 to
      be consistent between the machines, or is 7.0.1 worth the
      inconsistency.

  2.  What all is the difference?

Thanks,
Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
From: bmueller@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why does machine stop printing ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:09:58 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

I have a question for some printer/system gurus.

We have a heterogeneous network consisting of a lot of Macs, a Sun, and
a pc. The Macs all talk to a LaserWriter IINT through an EtherWrite
box (Compatible Systems). One Mac runs system 7; the remainder of the
Macs run system 6.0.8. The two Macs in question are A) a Classic with
4MB RAM and a SCSI box (Asante) to connect to our ethernet and B) an
SE/30 with 5MB RAM and ethernet card (also Asante). The system 7 Mac
was not even running today.

When the fellow with the SE/30 prints, he finally reaches a point when
the "little watch comes up" and no output issues from the LaserWriter.
The only cure for this is to restart his machine (after which he will
again reach this point within a number of print jobs). The Classic
seems to work just fine. The SE/30 owner tells me that this happens
with or without background printing on.

In examining the system folder of each, I note that the SE/30 owner has
AppleTalk v 57.0.3 and the classic has AppleTalk v 56. Do we need v 57.
0.3? Is this the cause of the problem? What do you suggest I do in this
case? Color Quickdraw is on both machines.

Thanks in advance.

                                           ...Bob Mueller
                                              bmueller@mis.mcw.edu

BTW - Yes! I used the INSTALLER in both cases!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: Help with FKeys
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:41:53 GMT

I know this should probably be posted in alt.stupid instead, but...
Could someone please tell me how to install an FKey like, say, SpinD?

Thanks,
From: un041111@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Mac printing over Novell Network HELP!!??
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:29:40 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

We have struggled with our Mac equipment and our Novell network
for weeks trying to get everything to work together properly.
We are running Novell Netware 3.11 and Mac Netware 3.01 on a
Zenith 386/33 file server, with 10BaseT wiring.  We are mostly an IBM
compatible-based installation, but we have a few clients who
need Macintosh services on the network.  We have a combination
of Shiva and Asante network cards for our Mac II, IIsi's, and
SE/30s.  We are using the latest software version for these
cards, and the Asante software drives both cards equally well.
We have queues set up on the Novell server using ATPS print
server drivers.

The problems we have are:

o	How do we get Macintosh printers to be recognized on the
network?  We have a LaserWriter IIg that may connect directly to
Ethernet, and two LaserWriters connected to Macs.  Is there some
hardware/software that lets the Network know that a printer is
here, associated with a print queue, and available to other Macs
via the Chooser?  It is not easily possible to run LocalTalk connections
from the File Server to all of the Macintosh equipment, and seems silly
since the Ethernet is already in place.
o	All of our Macs are running System 7.0 or higher.  We
have had a problem with "time-outs" when connecting a Mac to our
file server.  After a login is established on the network, the
Macintosh will become very sluggish, allowing the user about 5
seconds to use the arrow cursor to work, and then timing out
with the watch cursor for about 35 seconds, and repeating the
cycle until you log out of the network.  It does not happen with
a bare-bones System 7 install, followed by a reboot with
extensions off, followed by installing the card drivers.  Any
hints as to what causes this?
o	Any info about setting up multiple queues for multiple zones?

Any help would be worth dinner, wherever and whenever,
vegetarian or no (if geographically possible).

Dave Singleton, Jeff Fluharty, Kathy Myers
Three People Ready To Drop-Kick a Mac, or Novell Server, or Both.
Reply here or to:  UN041111@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU, or single@exodus.wvnet.edu
#include <standard-disclaimer.h>
From: sefhelp@tamuts.tamu.edu (Steve Fuller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Forgot to logout? (was News)
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:10:51 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Sep1.131544.9131@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>In article <1424.2AA07819@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG>, Mary.Hicks@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mary Hicks) writes:
>> All jews should be shot in the head. They control the media and make it 
[8 lines removed]
>Beggin' yer pardon, Miz Hicks, but what th @!#!@$!@# are you doing posting
>HERE?!?!???  Just piss off, and take your hate to alt.flame, where it's the
>norm.
>

I would like to take this opportunity to remind my fellow mac'ers that people
sometimes forget to log out. And other people sometimes take advantage of this.

I stongly suspect that someone besides Mary Hicks wrote this and is having a
grand-old time reading all of the flames it has generated. 

In the future, I most humbly suggest that readers of c.s.m.s ignore this kind
of garbage. 

Hopefully the flames will cause Miss Hicks to be a little more responsible
with her account.

Steve Fuller
sef3179@tamsun.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: printing bombs
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:24:22 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <dr_mcgee-250892150927@pythagoras.pnl.gov>, dr_mcgee@pnl.gov
(David R. McGee) wrote:
> Serious problems occuring on our network here, as of late. Printing
> problems
> from assorted different applications

David-

As the Macintosh family has grown and newer versions of system software
evolved, We have also experienced printing problems similar to yours.  Here
is a summary of what I have found in our area:

1.  Newer machines use System 7 printer drivers, older ones still have the
System 6 drivers.  Both printing to the same Laser Printer, causes hangups
requiring the printer to be re-initialized.  System 6.0.8 comes with
drivers from System 7, which also are compatible with earlier System
6.0.X's.  Replacing drivers solves this problem.

2.  One "mysterious" problem went away when the logic board was replaced in
the old LaserWriter Plus.  Even with the old logic board, some users
experienced little trouble, while others had frequent hangups.

3.  Before upgrading to System 7 on some of the machines, everyone used
SuperLaserSpooler.  It is not compatible with System 7, and only
semi-compatible with System 7 printer drivers.  Some System 6 users still
insist on using it, even though it unpredictably causes problems similar to
ones you described.  These users refuse to use the supplied print monitor,
as it would require them to use MultiFinder.

I'm sure you, and others, can add to this list.  However, these have been
the most significant I've encountered.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies)
Subject: Re: Bad Disk! Need help!
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:46:52 GMT

method three is to boot system 6.x and run the BAD floppy disk init.
It seems to map out bad sectors more easily than system 7.0.

- Don
--
From: lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Omega SANE Install-Which Macs?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:07:36 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: General Electric R&D

HowdY:

Someone told me yesterday that the Omega SANE update in Sys 7.0.1 is not
installed in all Macs, but only on the IIci and above, with FPUs.

This doesn't sound right to me. Does anyone have the real deal on this? 

Thanks.

- Lorne

************************************************************************
Lorne J. Kingsley                               General Electric Company
--->my opinions don't represent those of the General Electric Company<--
Internet: lkingsley@crd.ge.com  CI$: 75166,2550  America Online: LorneK1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Re: news
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:02:19 GMT

Oh, wait -- I guess it's possible Mary Hicks forgot to log off and some
joker took over...
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Replacement TrackBall for PowerBook 100
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:35:49 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu's message of 1 Sep 92 16:35:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.113540.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:

   When I first got my PB100 I wanted a heavier ball too thinking it would
   make the "roll" smoother.  Then I noticed that the PB100 is distinctively
   different than it's bigger siblings in that the roller ball does NOT
   rest on rollers like the others, but rather on solid posts.  Hence
   the slight skipping around.  

Erm. My PB140 has a trackball resting on fixed synthetic jeweled mounts
(I think that's what they are). The action is very smooth indeed.

   Poor design if you ask me, and I'm not sure a heavier ball will help.

Works for me. I think the PB100's I've seen have roller mounts. I'll let
you know; my PB100 is on its way...

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Empty folder not empty and can't be trashed...traced.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 31 Aug 1992 16:00:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ajax.ucop.edu

In article <aland.715223409@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>,
aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) wrote:
> [earlier stuff deleted]
> My guess is that Vantage Opener is keeping tabs on the file...  If you
> quit that, it might help.  If this isn't the problem, I have no
> idea...
> 
> 	-=Alan

I don't think that's the problem. Vantage Opener quits running as soon as
it has passed the file to Vantage.

I note, however, that I'm seeing this "empty folder can't be trashed" more
and more frequently now, even when Vantage is not involved. Example -
download a compressed archive of some sort, say it contains two components,
an application and a doc file, inside a folder. Uncompress the archive.
Print the document and then stuff it into your documentation archive or
trash it. Move the application to a different folder on the drive. Now you
have an empty folder, which you move to the trash. I find that about 3
times out of 10, I won't be able to empty the trash - the "empty" folder
will stay around until I reboot, at which time I'll be able to empty the
trash.

Most peculiar, also annoying because even if you're willing to leave the
"empty" folder in the trash until you next reboot, you get an annoying
dialog every time you try and empty the trash.

-----------
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
From: Dan.Hughes@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Hughes)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: NEWS
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:45:02 -0500

Oh, brother. Why don't you get in a time machine and go back to Nazi Germany
circa 1933 and sleep with Hitler you fascist, racist bitch! Then the allied
bombers can bomb your bigotted ass in to oblivion with the rest of that sorry
country.
From: TOGE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Nobukazu Toge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: QuicKeys to access POP-up menus?
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:51:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Is there a QuicKeys extension that allows to access pop-up menus
in a sequence, etc?  I know that I can use Menu/DA... to access
pull-down menus from the main menu bar.  But that one doesn't help
in the case of pop-up menus.

Whether positive or negative, I would appreciate some clarifying
words from people in the know.

- Nobu Toge (KEK, ex-SLAC)
From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: WARNING: HATE POST! (was News)
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:58:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

>In article <1424.2AA07819@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG>, Mary.Hicks@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mary Hicks) writes:
>> All jews should be shot in the head. They control the media and make it
>> look like Palestinians are wrong when in fact the jews are doing
>> genocide to them. The jews are the nazis of the desert and Rabin the
>> Hitler of the middle east. Why do jews commit genocide of palestinians
>> after them round them up and put them into death camps?
>>
>> JEWs: Ivan Boesky; Keating: Mike Milken; Carl Icahn; These are the Den
>> of Thieves, since most jews love to cheat people. Never trust anyone
>> with the last name Zimmer or Horowitz or Epstein or Roth, or Rosenberg.
>
>> --
>> Mary Hicks - via FidoNet node 1:125/555
>>     UUCP: ...!uunet!hoptoad!kumr!fidogate!222.0!Mary.Hicks
>> INTERNET: Mary.Hicks@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG
>
 Can't wait to get *you* into Hell, Mary. We have a special pit for racists;
The first thing I usually do is skin a couple of racists alive -- then swap
the skins. Looking forward to your arrival.
 
            ^ ^                JOE DEMON                 ^ ^
      ^ ^   |||                                          |||   ^ ^
^ ^   |||    |           a helluva wicked sort            |    |||   ^ ^
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From: lchd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ho Ling Cherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Japanese & CHinese System
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:05:50 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Can someone please kindly tell me where I can get a 
Japanese (in Hiragana and katakana) and a chinese system
for the machintosh?
Please e-mail me as I don't read this news group.
Thanks .
...
Ling Cherd
.
From: rbriber@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: RE: trash
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:06:22 GMT
Organization: NIST

To put files into the trash using only the keyboard there is the
extension Basura (available at various ftp sites) that will put
a highlighted file in the trash the the key sequence "command delete".
The key sequence "option-cmd-delete" will put the file in the 
trash and empty the trash.

Rob
option-cmd-delete
From: winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How do you zap PRAM under Sys7?
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:33:40 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <28627@vedge.UUCP>, brad@vedge.UUCP (Brad Fowlow) wrote:
> 
> bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams) writes:
> : >To reset: Hold Command-Option -p-r
> : 
> : Yes, but WHY would I zap the PRAM?  I've only heard of needing to do it
> : if there are bizarre things going on (most recently posted of which is
> : the "wecome to Mac" mac icon not showing up in color).
> 
> Some things in the pram:
> 	desktop pattern, mouse speed, sound volume, keyboard layout,
> 	highlight color, -startup disk-, default app font.
> 
> Incidentally, although the time is in pram, it isn't reset by a zap.
> 
> cheers.
> -- 
>  Brad Fowlow   brad@vedge.com 	Visual Edge Software Limited  
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>  Language is the house of being.


Actually, the time is not kept in PRAM, it is kept in the clock chip
that contains the PRAM. And you are right, it is not reset when PRAM
is zapped.

FYI:

The only Apple products that contain non-volatile memory are Macintosh
systems and Apple LaserWriter printers; the Mouse, keyboards, scanners,
tape drives, CD-ROM drives, disk drives, and display systems do not have
non-volatile memory. The details of which are as follows:

The Macintosh 128K, Macintosh 512K, and Macintosh 512KE contain 20 bytes
of Parameter RAM (PRAM). These 20 bytes of PRAM are documented on pages
II-369 to II-371 of Inside Macintosh Volume II.

The rest of the computers in the Macintosh family have 256 bytes of PRAM,
except for the Macintosh Portable which has 128 bytes. PRAM only contains
configuration information, not user data.

Not all of PRAM is cleared when using the by "hold down the Command, Shift,
and Option keys while opening the Control Panel" method of System 6. The
original 20 bytes of PRAM documented on pages II-369 to II-371 of Inside
Macintosh Volume II are not cleared. Only the other 236 bytes that are
considered confidential. This should be sufficient for your customers
needs.
Note: The Command, Option, r, p, method of System 7 clears all of PRAM.

The same is true for the non-volatile memory in the LaserWriter printers
that we sell. Only configuration information like page count, baud rate,
emulation mode, and port to use are stored. The printer memory, like a
computer's memory, is erased as soon as power is turned off.


Scott Winders
winders@aux.support.apple.com

"My opinions are my own, not my employer's"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system