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From: jabolliger@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Eagles?
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:18:33 GMT

In article <1d4tgiINNh75@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, ruffus@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Roderick Nasir DAVID) writes:
>  	Hi,
> 	   I had a dream the other night with an eagle in it the was
> flying(or more correctly gliding) infront of a deep blue sky.I was
> watching it decend ( I thought it was after its prey) and it went into a
> steep dive.Then the just before the eagle hit the ground it pulled up
> and landed on my arm.IT WAS HUGE!!!
> 
> 		Can anyone tell me what this means?
> 
> 				thanx!
Your dream has interesting similarities to a dream I had around two years 
ago..  

in this dream I was lying helpless on my back on the floor.
I was concious but could not respond to others in the room.
Someone with malice was coming up dark wooden stairs.  I tried
to warn the people in the room.  I tried to run.

As I lay on the floor a gale started to shake the building.
The sky turned intensely blue, almost flourescent.  The trees
bent to the ground.  From the heights an eagle descended into the 
wind.  white head, brown body and wings, his flight was not affected by
the wind though you could see is feathers ripple.

I was comforted because I knew this eagle had come for me.

			Jean Ann
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: This type of dream...
Date: 8 Nov 92 13:35:05 GMT
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

002369c@ace.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE) writes:

> May I ask a simple question?
> Here goes anyways...Have you ever had a fever dream?
> I mean the type of dream when you have a fever and in the dream you 
> hallucinate and excperience scary stuff. It's almost like your awake, 
> because the surroundings are real, but you ARE dreaming. One typ of fever 
> dream that I have had, includes watching the cieling and walls, and strips 
> peel off and collect like a snowball rolling down a hill.
> And often there are mice. Hundreds of damn mice! Anyway there may also be a 
> droneing noise accompanied with these dream that gets rather annoying.
> I haven't had one of these dreams since I was in juniorhigh, with a high 
> fever.
> Any comments...?

 
 As a kid, I was PLAGUED with fever dreams, some so intense and, well, 
fevered that I'd "wake up", go to the livingroom (where my parents were 
watching TV), and sit with them for an hour before finally coming down.
 
 My fever dreams were object-oriented as opposed to plot-oriented (like 
my normal dreams are). Anyone remember that old arcade game Tempest? The 
vector-line thingie where you played a gun which rested on the edge of a 
deep pit made of blue lines? Well, I dreamed that I was hanging over this 
pit, looking down at a very unfrightening drop, but terrified to the 
point of insanity.
 
 Another time, I dreamed that some organization was going to take over 
the world...the conspiracy was IMMENSE, monolythic, and my mind 
allegorized it as an endless brick wall/floor that swallowed up sight of 
everything else. I looked at the thing, tried to grasp it, "grok it in 
fullness" as it where, but I simply could not do it. The thing was bigger 
than me, bigger than my perceptions, and it was the most horrifying thing 
I have ever experienced.
 
marlowe

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From: marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt))
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dreams based on books
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:53:19 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <002369c.43.721076998@ace.acadiau.ca>, 002369c@ace.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE) writes:
> That reminded me of when I used to read All of the time. I alsoremenber 
> dreamingabout the book by having mental images. Espesially onbook in 
> particular. I dreampt the whole book. I think it was something like:
> "The Maxe in the Heart of the Castle".
> Post your dream, I like to hear it!

	One of my more interesting dreams was based on a comic book. You 
know one with the picture of Spider-Man being carried off by a Pteridactyle?
Well, I dreamed that I was Thunderbolt (a caracter of my own creation) and 
I was in the same position. The creature just shrugged off my electric 
shocks and I could't break loose. At some point all the Marvel 
Super-Hero's came to my rescue, and they weren't helping much either. I 
relized that this was in a comic book and I was afraid to turn the page 
(don't ask  me how but I was both reading and in the story at the same time.)
The pteridactyle eventually turned into Godzilla, who was being controlled 
by some outside force and left after we gave him a good scoldig.

	My other major dream involving comics was quite funny. I was 
T-bolt again and I was part of a major crossover and mystery. Some big 
villian was out to destroy/take over/really messup the world and we had to 
figure out who it was. We were told that there was a clue inside Mount 
Rushmore. So we went there. It turns out that there is (in my dream) a 
door and a window on the side of Rushmore. The window was open, so I tried 
to fly in, but my controll was not good enought. Iorn-Man was going to fly 
in and open the door, but at that point I noticed that the door was open. 
We discovered and entire shopping mall inside Mount Rushmore. And began to 
explore it. None of the people there seem to notice us. At some point I 
looked behind me an realized that all the students of Earlham college were
following behind us, and one person I knew started complaining that he was 
going to get in trouble because he was leaving finger prints all over the 
place while the heroes were wearing gloves. The only other part of this 
dream that I reacall is a part where I discover a real cool T-shirt. It 
had a picture of Rushmore done in Gold and I really wanted it, but I 
resisted the temptation to shop lift. 

	I know I have had other dreams base on works of fiction. I try and 
rember the more interesting ones.

----Marc Seebass
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From: bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith)
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Keywords: Yodolo, Vitari, New Vitari, Smucker's Fruitage
Organization: Real/Time Communications
 <1992Nov11.175528.27870@athena.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 05:01:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.175528.27870@athena.mit.edu> jeffy@athena.mit.edu () writ
es:
>I cast my vote for ONE BIG stupendous glob of magazine reviews, for many
>reasons. When FS5 was on paper, I didn't "leisurely" scan through the listings
,
>I poured over each one until I found some that interested me; I'm interested
>a small percent of the listings (politics, magick and gore [Gore?] are right
>out), which suddenly becomes a very tiny percentage with the update format.
>I'm also reaching critical mass on incoming mail, with all those ridiculuous
>mailing lists. I suggest providing _both_ formats (updates and chunky style)..
.

<snaps fingers>  Pay attention here.  One of the things that I have learned
from doing an electronic zine is that it's nature is entirely different from
paper.  A printformat gives the reader control over the distribution of
information.  I don't have to read the next page if I don't want; I can skip
around, or even mark my place and come back later if I want, breeze through
pages as quickly as I want or pore like a snail if I want as well.

You lose this power in electronic media.  [Assume, for this argument, that
like most people, your e-zine has popped up in your mailbox, you open it, and
start reading].   Now it is the software/mailer program that controls the
distribution of information.  You can only view one screen at a time.  You
may flip a page forward, or flip a page back, but only one page.  Information
is force-fed through to you sequentially.

Speaking from experience, I don't read pages and pages of electronic text "in
the hopes that there's something exciting later".  Since the info is forced
upon the reader, the author has to try and provide enough interest to keep
the reader hooked.  FF5-E is not a sequentia-access publication.  It's very
format, it's very nature, is that you flip around looking for something that
grabs your attention.


<votes again for sections to be re:leased as written>

>
>jeffy@athena.mit.edu|||X Magazine: Seven enigmas wrapped in two mysteries
>                                   surrounded by one puzzle
>
>


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From: aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: ftp sites for DargonZine
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:27:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Serious Deviations
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

scornd7@solomon.technet.sg (Tang Chang Thai) writes:
: Say ... does anyone know of an ftp site for DargonZine?

I don't have the ftp site number but I do have the editor's address.  His
name is Dadydd (yes, that's what it is says here) and his address is
white@duvm.bitnet. 


______________________________________________________
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my virtual spheres of consciousness can be reached at:
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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: spingo@panix.com (James Barnett)
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:08:11 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: F5

I'd have to vote for the updates, too; i think it'd be easier to 
get a week or two worth of stuff together than a month, no?
Also, won't some mail conections freak out at the length that a
month's worth of stuff would approach?

Hell, I'd be happy to get the stuff either way.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: wc8384@writer.yorku.ca (Siusan Moffat)
Subject: Re: monty python zine
Summary: Monty Python
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:51:32 GMT

Gwen Dibly is calling all you Monty Python fanatics.  I need out and
out addiction - no dabblers. I'm doing a MP fanzine to be put out
after x-mas and need any articles/rantings you can spew. Please send
me stuff through the mail - I haven't figured out how to work this
system yet. Also - any HC kids into Monty (REAL HC as in CXA, Infest,
DIY stuff) please write. Just send me a line or something telling me
your interested...we'll figure out what to do from there.

siue-wc8384
From: spingo@panix.com (James Barnett)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Send me yer e-zine!
Keywords: zine
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:53:22 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Hiya, folks! Do you publish an e-zine?

SEND IT TO ME! or give me contact addresses, willya?
I'm horribly interested, and there's an outside chance I'll start up a BBS
soon, and I'd like to populate it with as many e-zines as possible.

Thanks!

James Barnett

spingo@panix.com

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From: dwp+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Philips)
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Summary: something salient, shortly stated, sadly seldom satoric
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:21:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bxn041.Hw5.1
Organization: EIEI-U

In article <1dsdh1INNdvb@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:
+This is what I had in mind.  I think we were not clear about the original
+proposed options.  "All in one big batch" means send the ENTIRE Factsheet
+out as one file.  "In pieces/as updates" means send the thing out as each
+separate part is updated -- that is, send out the whole new "politics"
+section or the entire new "queer" section, etc.  

That was the understanding I had when I voted for "updates" over "ENTIRE".

-Doug
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From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Date: 8 Nov 1992 22:15:42 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <BxEtuC.8Fq@well.sf.ca.us> jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore) writes:
>But, we do have a question for everyone.  Just *how* do we go about doing
>this massive e-mailing?  Do we wait until we have an 'issue' of F5-E and 
>send out all the review files at once?  Or do we send out the latest files
>as they are finished?  There's no having it both ways, we must decide on
>which method is the 'best.'

I think it would make sense to have the updates come out as they are
ready.  That would offer the latest updates to readers in a timely fashion,
without waiting for (or reprinting) sections that do not change as quickly.

I think this would be workable as long as an accurate system of version
identification were adopted; otherwise it would get very confusing.

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From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Graphics Workshop is for DOS?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:46:14 GMT
Organization: Jobs With Peace at UWM
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Keywords: graphics, workshop, DOS, legacy, zine
Originator: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu


quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
:  
: Graphics Workshop, by Alchemy Mindworks, is a dynamite shareware 
: graphics file viewing/conversion/modification program for about $40. 
: It'll basically convert anything to anything else in terms of graphic 
: formats (including converting text files to graphics screens).  One 
[text deleted]

I just did an archie search for this application.  The only thing I was able
to find was something called Graphics Workshop for the NeXT platform.  Are
you sure this app is available for DOS platforms?  If not, this really won't
apply to the e-'zine in question 'cause it's directed towards those with DOS
machines.  No, I'm not a DOS fan, but I just thought I'd try to help keep
things clear.


______________________________________________________
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aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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From: mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil)
Subject: F5-E FAQ?
Organization: GMD-Fokus (Berlin)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:24:51 GMT

hi,
     heard/read a lot about factsheet five and all, but what exactly is it now, i mean

- is it featuring punk/hc (or call it underground) or every kind   of shit (in this case i wouldn't be interested).

- is there a list (email) and if so how can i subscribe? how
  many megs is one issue and about how often is it released?

- think about some answers to questions i would have if i would
  think a little bit more about it.

thanx - tB!

ps - to the guy who asked me about reviews of german zines. i'll      write a sample one day, if i have a little more time to do  
     it...
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: New F5 updates?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 06:09:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <ed.720936917@cwis> ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
>How often is F5 updated at the FTP sites?  
> 
>I was just reading the entries...listed as being uploaded in August.
>Will there be updates soon?

Send mail to jerod23@well.sf.ca.us regarding release info on the F5-E
Send mail to emv@msen.com regarding archival updates at ftp.msen.com


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From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: ftp sites for DargonZine
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:45:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov11.080139.2047@nuscc.nus.sg> scornd7@solomon.technet.sg (Tang Chang Thai) writes:
>Say ... does anyone know of an ftp site for DargonZine?

I believe ftp.eff.org has it in /pub/journals

Paul
From: quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: Graphics Workshop is for DOS?
Keywords: graphics, workshop, DOS, legacy, zine
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:24:16 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1dsr36INNrl2@uwm.edu> aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.) writes:
>
>quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>:  
>: Graphics Workshop, by Alchemy Mindworks, is a dynamite shareware 
>  [text deleted about why GW is useful for e-zines]
>
>I just did an archie search for this application.  The only thing I was able
>to find was something called Graphics Workshop for the NeXT platform.  Are
>you sure this app is available for DOS platforms?  If not, this really won't
>apply to the e-'zine in question 'cause it's directed towards those with DOS
>machines.  No, I'm not a DOS fan, but I just thought I'd try to help keep
>things clear.

Strange that an archie search didn't find Graphic Workshop for DOS (or
for Windoze); both exist -- I have both on distribution floppies in
fact, though I haven't registered them, so I took them off my HD.  I
could have sworn that I saw them on simtel.  Anyway, for those
interested, I clipped the following information from the documentation
of another Alchemy Mindworks program which I was able to locate the
floppy for more quickly.  (One shouldn't take the fact I don't
currently use these progs to speak less than glowingly of them... I
just tend to rearrange my hd A LOT)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We can provide you with a disk containing copies of our larger 
shareware applications for $10.00 (US). Alternately, you can 
download the current versions of our applications from 
CompuServe in the GRAPHSUPPORT forum or from our bulletin board 
at (416) 729-4609. You can also order them from one of the larger 
distributors we use, such as Public Brand Software, 3750 Kentucky 
Avenue, Indianapolis, IN 46241. They always have the current 
versions of our programs. 
 
Our address is: 
 
Alchemy Mindworks Inc. 
P.O. Box 500 
Beeton, Ontario 
L0G 1A0 
Canada 
 
We can also be reached through the Alchemy Mindworks bulletin 
board. It's available twenty-four hours a day at (416) 729-4609. 
As of this writing, the protocol was 300, 1200 or 2400 baud, or 
9600 baud v.32bis, eight data bits, no parity and one stop bit. 
 
The bulletin board always has the most recent versions of all our 
shareware on it, plus bug fixes, drivers and other relevant 
information. It only exists to support Alchemy Mindworks' 
shareware... it does not have a general file area. 
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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:36:43 GMT

jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore) writes:


>Things are about to change.

>But, we do have a question for everyone.  Just *how* do we go about doing
>this massive e-mailing?  Do we wait until we have an 'issue' of F5-E and 
>send out all the review files at once?  Or do we send out the latest files
>as they are finished?  There's no having it both ways, we must decide on
>which method is the 'best.'

I think the "files as they come in" method would best utilize the
network and it's fine points (speed, mass-connection)....but the "all
files" method would be best for organizational and time reasons.

I vote: ALL AT ONCE (for the skimmers out there reading news).
 
I'd also like to hear more about the plans for F5E's going to print.
 
...e

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From: scornd7@solomon.technet.sg (Tang Chang Thai)
Subject: ftp sites for DargonZine
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:01:39 GMT

Say ... does anyone know of an ftp site for DargonZine?
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From: quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi)
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:53:01 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <BxEtuC.8Fq@well.sf.ca.us> jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore) writes:
>But, we do have a question for everyone.  Just *how* do we go about doing
>this massive e-mailing?  Do we wait until we have an 'issue' of F5-E and 
>send out all the review files at once?  Or do we send out the latest files
>as they are finished?  There's no having it both ways, we must decide on
>which method is the 'best.'

My "vote" is for F5-E to be published in "issues." Perhaps it would
even be possible to have a somewhat topical theme to these issues...
like, the "hardcore issue" or the "sex issue" or whatever.  I know
that I get enough email that I would probably lose track of individual
reviews if they all got sent separately... even ones that I might be
interested in.  But if I got F5-E in larger packages, I would be more
likely to read -- or at least skim -- a whole issue when I felt I had
enough time to get around to it.  I dunno, maybe it's just my own
method of mental housekeeping, but for me this would make it easier to
keep track of what I had read.
	Also, from the point of view of redistribution, I think issues
-- especially topical issues -- would be better.  There might be
someone I know, for example, who was a hardcore fan, to whom I would
forward a hardcore issue (as in the example above -- though I trust
the F5-E editors to determine the distribution of topics).  But such a
person might have neither the time nor interest in reading every
review if I were to forward everything.  I could, of course, just
forward individual reviews I thought a particular person might be
interested in... but that would involve reading them all myself (or at
least skimming).  If I saw an issue was topical, I might just go ahead
and forward to appropriate parties without necessarily first being
able to find the time to read that issue (or I might even know it
would interest a particular acquaintence without having any interest
in it myself).  
	Just my $.02.
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