From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETY
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 01:31:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.130851.1830@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>In <1992Apr2.201737.14600@pwcs.stpaul.gov> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
>
>>I suggest that you view the film, 'Roger and Me.'  It's a documentary about
>>the impact of General Motor's closing of the main Buick factory on Flint,
>>Michigan.  30,000 people were thrown out of work!  Although the film is
>>technically a documentary, it is so wise and witty that my local video rental
>>store has it filed under 'Comedy.'
>
>Well - why didn GM close down? Because they weren't selling enough cars.
>Period. No other reason. And why weren't they selling enough cars?

Because they're a big, fat, dumb and lazy Big 3 Auto Company, riddled with
waste, fraud, abuse, and they didn't adapt to the effects of the energy crunch
very well AT ALL, and they're taking a long time to match the product quality 
of the imports, and the UAW sucks them dry with outrageous wages, benefits 
and minimal expectations of productivity, and they haven't yet relocated all 
of their plants to Mexico, where $1/hour is a going wage for a line worker.
Any more silly questions?

(I love being able to post from home :-)

>Because of the financial desparity of the yeras. 

Nice to see you have your finger on the pulse of the Automotive Industry,
Steve.

>And why are we in this
>state(IMHO)? Population defficiency, brain drain, and other various
>factors. 

Population deficiency? What do you think the "optimal" population is of the
USA and Canada, respectively, and what makes you think we can't achieve 
those targets, abortion or not, and once we do, won't we need some "braking"?
If we don't foster INTELLIGENT family planning _early_, we'll probably end up
overshooting our targets, since population tends to go up on an exponential
curve.

Brain drain? Sounds like smart Canadians are emigrating to the USA because of
our higher material standard of wealth, and, not insignificantly, our 
marginally higher emphasis on personal liberty and self-determination. So,
does "brain drain" really make the argument you WANTED it to make? I'm not
saying that Canada's brain drain would stop if abortion was (further) 
liberalized, I'm just pointing out that brain drain is a RELATIVE phenomenon. 
What's a "drain" to you may be a "flood" to us. Perhaps you should work on 
providing INCENTIVES for those brains to not "drain", instead of complaining
about it after the fact.

>I will speak for Canada when I say that we could REALLY have
>used those extra million people. 

After-the-fact hypothesis. How can you be so sure that things would have been
_better_ with those million people? It might have just as easily been WORSE.
Did things get -better- in Florida when Fidel Castro sent all his 
"undesirables" to us? Population increase does not necessarily translate to 
better standard of living.

>Maybe you guys down south are different? I don't think so... 

Down south? If I travel due south from my workplace, as the crow flies, what do
you think is the first major political boundary I cross? Ohio's? No. ONTARIO'S!
Watch your generalizations, Steve :-)

								- Kevin


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