From: gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com (Gil Levitch) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Kentucky MASH'ed Louisville
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:50:00 GMT
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Organization: The Fifth Dimension - Louisville, KY - 502-423-8654
Reply-To: gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com (Gil Levitch) 


Matt McCoy wrote:
MM>I have always maintained that UofL is at best and mediocre team, that
MM>occasionally plays above themselves.  UK is just giving UofL what
MM>they asked for, and judging from Denny 'I can't take another loss' Crum's
MM>reaction at the post-game handshake, I would think that UofL may look
MM>to end the series.  It would be for their own good, recruiting wise.

I thought for awhile that you were NOT a typical UK fan, but Matt, you
just put your foot in your mouth. <grin> I can talk this way because I
am a UK Alumus, but I am also a U of L fan, and a BIG Denny Crum fan.
What the good folks in Lexington can't see is that the University of
Louisville doesn't regard basketball as life and death. Denny Crum has
the security that few coaches enjoy anywhere. He wants to win just as
much as Patino (OR any other coach), but if he doesn't the sun will rise
tommorrow and it's just another day. He has no pressure at all from the
University, just as his mentor John Wooden had none. As for the
handshake, Patino *HATES* Crum, and I think Crum doesn't even think
about Patino. Patino hasn't recruited successfully one player out of
Louisville that he wanted, and that rankles him. Don't think for a
moment that he wouldn't have taken Morton (as bad as Morton is playing),
and the Osborn thing has really gotten to him. I had respect for Patino
until his book came out. The man doesn't have half the class that Crum
has. As a Louisville fan I would like to see them win. BUT if they don't
I feel just like all the other U of L fans....there's always tommorrow.
After all, it's just a sport played by kids, and we need to put it in
perspective.

MM>An example of the typical UofL player.  Lack of discipline, which
MM>explains the reason why UofL always plays so poorly.  The last time
MM>they had real leadership was Darrell Griffith when they won the
MM>National Championship in '80.  A shame, cause I agree that UofL
MM>has gotten alot of talent, but they are losing the recruiting battle
MM>because Crum cannot for the life of him coach discipline.  That is
MM>a sad, but true fact.

What about 1986? I seem to remember another National Championship. No
discipline there either, right? :-) Crum has recruited as well as anyone
in the country. He recruits who he thinks will fit in with his style of
play. You may think he's behind the time. 90% of the Louisville fans are
as happy as can be. The man has only taken his teams to the final four 6
times and won 2 championships. When Patino can do as well with his
flashy 3 point barrages I will bow to him.

MM>Right now I see no reason why UK shouldn't get at least a few #1 votes,
MM>though I doubt they will move above Kansas or Duke.  Perhaps after the
MM>IU game, people will begin to see that this team is for real.

You better hope that Calbert Channey has a bad night because that's the
only way UK is going to beat IU.

MM>While it is good for UK to be playing Intra-state rivals, I believe
MM>there comes a point when the losing does more harm than good.  EKU
MM>lost an unexpected nail biter, but gained ground in the reputation
MM>category.

Better to play intra-state rivals and keep the $$$$ in the state then
play Middle Tenn. or Little Sisters of the Poor and allow that money to
leave.

MM>The continued poor play of Louisville against UK is doing nothing
MM>but hurting them on the national recruiting scene, and quite

That's nonsense, Matt. Denny just had a great recruiting year, and he's
not finished yet.

MM>frankly the UCLA high post offense is about as exciting as picking
MM>the corns off of your feet.  The Cards need to move into the 90's,
MM>before they are over, and get with the trends.  If they don't do so,
MM>and continue in their 'backwards' ways, then they will most assuredly
MM>be destined to become a basketball program that remains stagnant, quiet,
MM>and lost.

That's the talk out of Lexington, not Louisville. Come visit us
sometime. <smile>

 gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com
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