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From: phil@wubios.wustl.edu (J. Philip Miller)
Subject: AIDS in India
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:26:04 -0600 (CST)

The following was recently posted on another list....
-phil

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Date:     Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:47:58 -0600

India Interest Group News Digest    Thu, 21 Jan 93      Volume 2 : Issue 10

    * AIDS virus spreading fast in India

    New Delhi 01/20 : Last month, the Indian Council of Medical Research
    (ICMR) acknowledged that 150,000 of India's estimated one million
    prostitutes may be HIV-infected. In a report, the ICMR has for the
    first time given an assessment of the HIV epidemic in India, pegging
    the number of carriers at 637,000 in the country's urban areas. The
    report does not make any projections for rural India. It says there
    is no information about the sexual habits of the 95-million sexually
    active Indians who live in villages. Ofiicially only 10,856 Indian are
    HIV-infected. However, critics say the figures do not reflect the
    reality. Top Indian virologist Dr. Jacob John believes some 2.5 million
    may be HIV-infected, whild India's AIDS control chief P.R. Dasgupta
    thinks that the epidemic has reached a stage where every Indian is at
    risk if he or she is not careful. "The chief co-factor is unprotected
    sex in Indian brothels. Prostitutes and their clients are infecting
    and getting infected by one another, and the clients are infecting
    wives who give birth to infected babys", says Dr. I.S.Gilada, head of
    Bombay base India Health Organization. Heterosexual transmission acounts
    for 80% of the cases. Bombay has an estimated 100,000 prostitutes and
    HIV-incidence has jumped from 2% to 4% in just three years. To complicate
    matters, Gilada estimates that 80% of women prostitutes are suffering
    from sexually transmitted deseases (STDs)  at any time.
    Besides heterosexual transmission, one hazard in India is its infected
    blood supply. The blood is not safe, because as much as 30% of it is
    from professional donors - malnourished and sometimes homeless, who sell
    their blood for money. Many of the donors are infected, but continue to
    donate blood because no machinery exists to stop them from doing so.
    Dr. M.L. Gupta, director of Indian Red Cross says "the horrifying truth
    is that mos of India's blood banks don't have diagnostic kits to screen
    blood". (IPS)

-- 
     J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
	 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
     phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
From: schwaigr@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jim Schwaiger)
Subject: Re: Number of partners unimportant?
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 21
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:52:35 GMT

There was a study published in the Journal of AMA about 4-5 years ago,
and I am sure similar studies published since then, which looked at the
seroconversion rate of partners of HIV+ patients based on whether they
used condoms or not.

As I recall, the rate of conversion for those not using condoms was
about 60% per year, and in the range of 10% for those who did use
condoms.  Of course, there are many important details required to
extrapolate the results of this study (which included heterosexual as
well as homosexual couples) to whatever population you are interested
in.  I'll let you look up the details from the article yourself if you
are interested rather than relying on my own faulty memory.

Jim
From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: Number of partners unimportant?
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:04:56 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 43

In article <1993Jan23.140132.3965@cs.ucla.edu> rad!arthur@uunet.UU.NET (Arthur Hu) writes:
>My question is this - are there anys studies that show what the HIV
>rate is for gays or hetero-folk with large numbers of partners who
>use condoms all the time? It seems that there is a critical HIV
>prevalence rate at which even unremarkable behavior - say 5 lifetime
>partners with partners not at risk - still puts an individual at risk.
>This seems to be the conclusion of the study in Florida where 8% of
>black pregnant women were HIV+, and 30% of the women were at no
       ^^^^^^^^
>unusual risk. 

There is a large correlation between pregnancy and lack of condom
use. Even with one heterosexual married partner in the missionary position :-)

>So in a gay population that is 10% to 30% HIV+, 

And an author who over estimates or underestimates by a factor of
4 when convient.

>isn't
>it possible that even sex with condoms with a small number of 
>partners would still spread a significant number of AIDS cases?

I think it would depend on the kind of sex, there would be a big
difference between oral sex and anal sex using motor oil as lube...

>And since people do not use condoms 100% of the time, 

People who value there lives do.

>espeically in
>conjunction with alchohol or drugs, 

drug war hysteria

>isn't it a good idea to reduce
>the number of partners anyways? Am I correct in that the general
>consensus is that thou shalt not advocate reducing number of partners?

You convinced me, I'll cut down from having 0 sex last week to having
only 1/3rd as much this week...

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From: <MADLANSACAY%FORDMULC.BITNET@VM.USC.EDU>
Subject:  looking for anyone using Foscavir
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 45
Organization: unspecified
Date:     Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:21 EST

Hi.  I'm trying to look for people who are currently using
Foscavir for CMV retinitis.  Thanks.

Noel
Madlansacay@fordmulc
madlansacay@mary.fordham.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
From: tomtull@bourbon.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Tull)
Subject: Re: CMV info needed
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 41
Organization: Sun
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:09:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.231231.16872@cs.ucla.edu> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>
>I had dinner last night with someone who works for one of the AIDS Clinical
>Trial Groups, with CMV retinitis in particular.  He said that there are
>still only the two drugs, and that there didn't seem to be much else coming
>down the pipeline.  There are working on new deliovery methods, however.
>One is a slow-release which is implanted into the eye.  It will probably
>last about a year.  
>

Some information that your friend might not have had:

The Clinical Research Group at Mt. Zion, UCSF is currently conducting
Phase I and II trials of a new anti-CMV drug:  HPMPC.  I know because I was the
19th person to ever get the drug.  They found out that the dose I
received was to high and I sustained some kidney damage which we hope will clearup over time.  It has gotten better but has not totally resolved.
This is a compound that was discovered in the former republic of 
Czechoslovakia.  

HPMPC is very effective in eliminating CMV from the body, as found by
folowing seman samples, now they are trying to find a way to do it
safely.

So your friend is sort of right...since HPMPC is not only effective against
CMV retinitis but against CMV systemicly.

Tom Tull 
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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: HIV/AIDS Link -- followup inquiry
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:54:32 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 39

In article <1993Jan26.043240.6847@cs.ucla.edu>, quilty@PHILOS (Lulu of the lotus-eaters) writes:
>In a responding post, Matthew P Wiener, has largely denounced
>Duesberg's scepticism; and by extention, I believe, my question.

I've not denounced his skepticism.  It's the extreme weakness of his
arguments, which rely on too much bad reasoning and incorrect data,
that I've largely denounced.

>However, this is not the case for HIV.  Even if it infects 90% of T4
>cells, it remains latent in all but .01% of these cells at any given
>time.  This latency is not *even*, but *especially* during the late
>stages of AIDS.

This is significant if you assume that HIV killing T-cells is the cause
of AIDS.  But there's no particular reason to believe this--it was just
the first and most obvious conclusion to jump to when HIV was discovered
--and so the objection is not worth much.

Autoimmunity theories seem more likely.  HIV's surface protein, gp120,
has some homology with MHC(II)--enough so that both bind to CD4.  Which
means that antibodies against gp120 might crossreact with MHC(II), and
the immune system self-destructs.

>[argument omitted] The long and short of it is the the HIV/AIDS
>explanation has a *BIG* conceptual gap in the middle of it.

No, the long and short of it is that Duesberg's objection has the *BIG*
conceptual gap--why should anyone assume the disease is caused by HIV
killing T-cells?  It almost certainly isn't, as the long and detailed
numbers you cite indicate.

>					      I won't dogmatically
>conclude that this gap can't be filled; but neither will I
>dogmatically believe the hypothesis based simply on the word of a
>medical-research establishment deeply intermeshed with political
>biases, and a standard of truth subsumed to personal power games
>(by Gallo, particularly -- but others also).

So don't dogmatically believe the words of the medical-research
establishment.  Seek out nurses whose only known risk for AIDS was
a needlestick from HIV+ blood, and ask them what _they_ think of the
poppers/lifestyle theory.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
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From: "ROSE M. FLEISCH-PERSON" <RMF5782%VALPO.BITNET@VM.USC.EDU>
Subject:  AIDS STATISTICS
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 47
Organization: unspecified
Date:     Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:41 CST

I am a student and I am doing research for a paper on AIDS.  For my paper I
need to compile a short chart of statistics.  Does anyone know where I might
be able to locate these?  I am particularly interested in statistics on:
# of victims with AIDS, # of people who've died from AIDS in the last ten years
(a # for each year), and the # of people who've died from various age brackets.
If there is anyone out there who could help me, I'd really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Rose Fleischmann
Valparaiso University
Valparaiso, IN
Internet:       RMF5782@EXODUS.VALPO.EDU
Bitnet:         RMF5782@VALPO
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
From: corwin+@CMU.EDU (Scott Safier)
Subject: CDC estimates of HIV infection
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 22
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Distribution: sci
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:54:49 GMT

This month's SPY magazine has a (rather humourous) article which
indicates that the CDC's estimate of the number of people infected
with HIV has not changed since 1985.  The estimate is always "over 1
million people."  Does anyone know why this is?  Was the last/most
recent study done in 1985?  Does anyone know of a better estimate?

Thank you,
Scott Safier                                   corwin+@cmu.edu
Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
        
member, T.S.A.K.C.  S2/6 b g- l z n+ o+(+) x+(+) a-(-) u-  v j+ 
                    B0/1 h f+ w- g k+ s- m(+) e++
From: Billi Goldberg <bigoldberg@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Asymptomatic AIDS and SLE
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 36
Organization: unspecified
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 20:09:43 PST

Interesting article. The only person who died was the one who received 
immunosuppressive treatment (prednisolone and cyclophosphamide) for an 
autoimmune disease. I am not saying that this particular article proves 
anything one way or the other, but it is just another piece in the 
puzzle.

======================================================================= 
Learmont J; Tindall B; Evans L; Cunningham A; Cunningham P; Wells J; 
Penny R; Kaldor J; Cooper DA. Long-term symptomless HIV-1 infection in 
recipients of blood products from a single donor. Lancet, 1992 Oct 10, 
340(8824):863-7. 

Abstract: There have been reported cases of long-term symptomless human 
immunodeficiency virus type 1 (HIV-1) infection, but it is not clear 
whether the benign course of infection was due to host, viral, or other 
unknown factors. During follow-up of subjects with transfusion-acquired 
HIV-1 infection in New South Wales, Australia, we identified a group of 
6 subjects who had been infected through a single common donor. We were 
therefore able to study the contributions of various factors to the 
course of infection. Throughout follow-up (range 6.8-10.1 years after 
infection), 5 of the recipients and the donor (last follow-up 10.2 years 
after infection of the first recipient) remained clinically free of 
symptoms, with normal CD4 cell counts and no p24 antigenaemia. HIV-1 was 
isolated from only 1 recipient; the isolate did not induce syncytia in a 
SUPT1 co-culture assay and had a limited in-vitro host range. 1 infected 
recipient (who had received extensive immunosuppressive treatment for 
systemic lupus erythematosus) developed Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia 
and died 4.3 years after infection. The frequency of progression to AIDS 
or a CD4 cell count below 0.50 x 10(9)/l was significantly lower among 
the 6 subjects with a common donor (1/6) than among 101 other HIV-
infected transfusion recipients for whom data from 7 years of follow-up 
were available (94/101; p less than 0.0001). These findings suggest that 
the subjects were infected by a less virulent strain of HIV-1. The 
identification of this group of subjects should stimulate a search for 
other similar groups, which will provide important information on the 
immunopathogenesis of HIV-1 disease.
From: bjz@SEI.CMU.EDU (Barbara Zayas)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Question: Followup to "And the Band Played On"
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:43:35 GMT
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 38

Does anyone know whether Randy Shilts plans to write a followup?

Software Engineering Institute		bjz@sei.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon University
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From: ori@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Ori Gottlieb)
Subject: pharmacological treatment of LD kids
Followup-To: ori@nwu.edu
Summary: help me with my paper
Keywords: LD drugs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:16:22 GMT

Help me out, please.  I'm thinking about doing a research paper on the
pharmacological treatments for Learning Disabled children.
I don't know yet if I want to pick a specific drug and follow it around, or
do an overall check on drugs that are used today and their effects.  If anyone
has any helpful info, I would be most appreciative.  Just e-mail me back.
thanks... 
ori@nwu.edu


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From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Nalaxone - new drug for treating alcholics
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:09:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland
NNTP-Posting-Host: athens.eng.umd.edu

My understanding is that Nalaxone, a morphine antagonist, offers new
hope for alcoholics. According to an article in the November 1992
Archives of General Psychiatry, Nalaxone significantly reduces an
alcoholic's craving for alcohol. Some alcoholics can even take
one or two drinks without feeling compelled to become drunk.

Anyway, all the above is something I heard on the radio. I don't
know whether doctors are actually prescribing Nalaxone at this time,
but I've been telling my alcoholic friends about it.
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: Triglycerides (was Cholesterol Protein)
Keywords: Cholesterol
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 03:50:46 GMT

dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Bank) writes:

| On a related note, I have a question about triglycerides.  I am undergoing
| monthly blood tests for cancer surveillance.  During the first test, I 
| noticed that my triglyceride level was 299 mg/dl (normal is 10-190)
| however, none of my doctors seemed to notice.  This past month the
| triglyceride level was 286.  I pointed that out to the nurse and she
| said to go on a low fat diet.

It's utter heresy by conservative medical standards, but your triglyceride
levels Will plummet were you to go on a lo carbohydrate diet.

== Bob Yazz ==
-- 


"The times they are a-changing."

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Physician's incomes
Organization: WP Group
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:04:14 GMT

From article <1993Jan21.223258.841@walter.cray.com>, by mwd@cray.com (Mark Dalton):
> In article <qpa3f1c@rpi.edu> whangj@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Junho Whang) writes:
>>  It's always very puzzling (if I assume a modicum of fairness),
>>why doctors always gripe about their salary?  According to the
>>vilage!  The argument of having to repay med school expenses don't hold
>>much water since total 4 year expenses run 100K at most, and many doctors
>>make easily that much in one year.
> 
> Any doctors or med students feel free to update/correct me.
> But a neurosurgeon that I new was paying $80,000 per year in
> malpractice insurance.  

Nice anecdote, but is it true?   It's surely not representative
of physicians as a whole.  I don't have the latest figures,
but Louisiana's "high-risk" professionals (ob-gyn specialists) paid
an average of $16,400 apiece for malpractice coverage in 1987, a
sum that was considered stratospheric by Louisiana physicians in
other fields.

> He was a fine surgeon, with a lot of
> experience.  He was grossing $200,000 /year.  After malpractice
> insurance and taxes.  He was making less then many atheletes, entertainers
> an most of all less than CEO's and upper "management".  All of
> whom don't pay malpractice insurance.

We know that the average US physician _nets_ 160K per annum, or 
thereabouts, after deducting the cost of doing business.  Does 
anybody have the latest figures on the average cost per physician 
for malpractice insurance?  Last time I checked the figures 
showed that all liability costs including the sums paid by 
hospitals and clinics, represented roughly 1 percent of the total 
US health care budget.  

> This was a few (8 years ago) and he was in a specialized field.
> 
> But when you consider the job that some physicians do, really think about
> cutting into another person.  Think of the responsibility involved.
>
> I think they are payed no more than they should be.

Not all physicians are surgeons or burdened with the task of making
critical life or death decisions.  Even for those who are, I'm not 
convinced that money is the best salve for "stress" that's often
taken lightly after several years of practice.  

Incidently, policeman and firemen, frequently make life or death 
decisions and risk their lives in the process, yet for some 
strange reason, they're not well-paid at all.  Perhaps we need
to re-arrange some of our priorities.

-- 
Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans (504) 443-5000
russ@wpg.com   uunet!wpg!russ
From: anadeem@ampere.sci.bio (Ahmed Nadeem)
Newsgroups: sci.med.physics
Subject: MRI And CT-SCAN Images Of Dogs?
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:40:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ampere.ANADEEM.93Jan27014056
Distribution: sci.med.physics
Organization: /home/ampere1/anadeem/.organization

Netters,
      I am currently working on a research project that involves construction 
of realistic, solid or geometric models for dogs.
      Does anyone know where I can get serial section images( MRI, CT-SCAN, 
etc ) for dogs?
                                                       Thanks,
                                                              Ahmed Nadeem
Newsgroups: sci.med.physics
From: anadeem@ampere.sci.bio (Ahmed Nadeem)
Subject: Edge Detection And Segmentation Using Khoros And PV-WAVE Software
Organization: /home/ampere1/anadeem/.organization
Distribution: sci.med.physics
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:42:11 GMT

Netters,
        I am currently working on a research project that involves generating
solid or geometric models from MRI images. Part of the procedure will require 
me to possibly perform Thresholding & Edge Detection on my MRI images in order
to find out which pixels lie on boundaries between two different regions. 
Thus, I would like to have an Image Processing Software package that has good 
Edge Detection and Classification ( Segmentation ) modules/routines.  
        I have heard a lot about Khoros ( University Of New Mexico) and 
PV-WAVE (Precision Visuals) and was curious if other professionals or students
had any experience on how good they are for the above purposes. Suggestions 
on other software packages are also much welcome.
                                                       Thanks,
                                                              Ahmed Nadeem
From: CCMG@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCMG)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: blood pressure
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:01:10 GMT
Organization: McGill University


My dad has been taking SECTRAL 200 MG morning, 200 MG evening
for blood pressure, any comments on this drug? He also tries
to split the dosage over the whole day, is this good.


  Giovanni
From: wfk@cellar.org (William F. Kershner)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Deviated Septum, Information Request
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:49:38 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

If someone could explain the effects, causes, treatments, and risk of
deviated septum problems I would greatly appreciate it.  Please e-mail.

________________________________________
William F. Kershner
wfk%cellar@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com
wfk@cellar.org
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Subject: Re: Eye Glass Frames
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:17:05 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20In-Reply-To: Mark's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:32:57 GMTLines: 17

In <dubin.727983177@spot.Colorado.EDU> Mark writes:

> mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich) writes:
> 
> >Does anyone know why eye glass frames are so expensive? They
> [...]
> >Most eye glass frames now cost well over $100!!! WHY?????
> 
> You might as well be asking about the pricing of men's neckties,
> or of women's shoes.  We are talking fashion here, not simple

Hey, you can still get T.E.D.'s (that's Tactical Eye Devices -- SERIOUSLY,
folks) from the U.S. DoD Military Hospitals for $10.00.  Ever seen 'em???

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA