HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nason@pa881a.inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: RE: Enterprise Shuttle named after TOS.
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:40:34 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: foster

> |>   2 : It would make a _nasty_ circular reference.  The "shuttle"
> |>       Enterprise was not named after any current or past ship.  It was
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> |>       so named because of the NCC-1701 and the original show!
> 
> What!?! 
> 
> The following post is from Berbie Wong;
> 
> --- Begin Post ---
> YEAR    EVENT
> 1616    (Great Birtain) HMS ENTERPRISE sent to find an alternate navel
>         route to the Orient, destroyed near India by a hurricane.
> 1760    (United States) USS ENTERPRISE, 12 gun sloop, captured on Lake
>         Champlain  by United patroits in 1775, captained by General
>         Benedict Arnold in the Revolutionary War.  Self-destructed in
>         1777 to prevent capture by British Royal Navy
> 1780    (United States) USS ENTERPRISE, 8 gun schooner, protected the
>         Chesapeake Bay against the British Royal Navy
> 1812    (United States) USS ENTERPRISE, 18 gun schooner, used in the War
>         of 1812, destroyed near the end of the war
> 1936    (United States) USS ENTERPRISE, LEXINGTON-Class military
>         aircraft carrier, built 1938, commissioned 1941, fought several
>         battles during World War II.  Dismantled 1946. Designation: CV-6
> --- End Post ---
> 
> Additionally there is CVN-65 USS Enterprise, Enterprise class nuclear
> aircraft carrier.

True there were many ships named Enterprise throughout American naval history. 
However, the original shuttle Enterprise WAS named after NCC-1701 in TOS by
NASA/Rockwell in 1979.  They invited Shatner and Nimoy to the liftoff of
(Challenger??), the first shuttle launch indicating the TOS reference.  So I
agree, Paramount may be using the circular reference logic.  However, the
shuttle did appear in the big room in STI ("the awful movie").  Kirk made a
short reference that the wall contained a picture all ships named Enterprise
and the shuttle was clearly visible.  Kirk was talking to the bald robot
(forget her name...sorry, really hated that film).

Secondly, the original shuttle Enterprise did fly.  No, it was never launched
but it was used for test landings from the 747.  I think this qualifies it as a
real ship, maybe in the same category of Hughes' "Spruce Goose" but a flyer none
the less.

Flames to dev/null

CU
John
From: whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk's name in TNG (was Re: Cause and Effect-the other)
Keywords: why didn't that captain question...
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:34:25 GMT

whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan) writes:

(Hey, replying to my own post.  Will I get in trouble for that?)

>gchapman@ncc1701gec.Gwinnett.COM (Mr. Magoo) writes:
>>dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
>>> Kirk was mentioned in "The Naked Now", TNG's second episode.
>>And in UNIFICATION...

>	Not precisely.  Didn't Spock compare Picard to "another
>Captain I once served under" (exact quote may be wrong)?  I seem to
>recall some speculation here that he might have been referring to
>Captain *Pike*.  

	To avoid a flood of responses, let me confess that I'd
forgotten the reference to STVI (where Spock mentions getting Kirk and
the Enterprise involved with the Klingon peace talks).  I stand
corrected.
					John Whelan
--
	"You can't possibly be a scientist if you
	mind people thinking that you're a fool."
				-- Wonko the Sane, _So_Long,_
				   _and_Thanks_for_All_the_Fish_
From: kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Character development...
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:50:21 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: The Zymurgy Institute

In article <BOWERS.92Mar31111413@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>
bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
 (Al Bowers) writes:
>
>Our local station (Channel 13, KCOP) has reruns of old episodes every
>weekday evening between 7 and 8 (a dead time anyway, STTNG is the
>_only_ thing worth watching at that time of day).  Last night they ran
>"Encounter at Farpoint: Part I".  Fascinating to see the character
>development that has happened over the years to each of the
>individuals.  Troi's chatracter was about as deep as cardboard, and
>Marina Sirtis' acting has improved as well.  Jonathan Frakes looks
>about 20 (and his Riker was a bit stiff too), and Wesley Crusher
>looked (and acted ) like a 12 year-old.  Even Patrick Stewart has
>improved the way he carries off his Capt. Picard.
>
I thought it was hilarious in one of the episodes (can't remember which one)
where Geordi says something a lot like, "Let's see how fast this baby can
go!" These days he'd probably say something like, "I've jury-rigged a
solution that will allow us to do something absolutely incredible like we do
every week but we'll never use again and implementing it...NOW."

No worries,

Scooter Corleone
From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Troi nude gifs (where?!?)
Date: 8 Apr 1992 13:46:20 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

To everyone who has requested the gifs: I will be sending a test mailing
out to make sure I won't get any bounce backs of the gifs. I will also be
sending both gifs, so if you only wanted one, just delete the other.
It is much easier for me to do it that way. I will send out one gif at a time,
and it probably won't be split into parts (I'm lazy) unless it has to be.
When I'm done, I'll post again to let everyone know. If the pics don't reach
you within a few days, they may have been lost, or I may not be able to send
to you. I'll post something to tell those poor unfortunates what I will do
about it.

Remember, Friday is the deadline for me to receive requests. After that time,
I will probably just use the old 'd' key in my mailer on any more requests.
(If I'm feeling generous - ie I have nothing else to do (which is rare) I may
respond. Don't count on it).

-- 
Thank you for your attention.
==============================================================================
Scott Barker
barker@enel.ucalgary.ca

"If winning is not important, then commander, why keep score?"
   - Worf, Star Trek: The Next Generation
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: r_plessn@oz.plymouth.edu (Rickyriooyayaya)
Subject: test
Reply-To: r_plessn@oz.plymouth.edu (Rickyriooyayaya)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 04:13:46 GMT


this is only a test
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: r_plessn@oz.plymouth.edu (Rickyriooyayaya)
Subject: The Giffffssss!!!
Reply-To: r_plessn@oz.plymouth.edu (Rickyriooyayaya)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 23:06:28 GMT

I would like someone to send those Gifs floating around.  I cant seem
to find anyone to send me them.  please oh please send them....
Ill be your bestest budy!!
Thanks
    Rickirooyayaya
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk's name in TNG (was Re: Cause and Effect-the other)
Keywords: why didn't that captain question...
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 00:45:45 EDT
Organization: Berry Communications

whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan) writes:

> gchapman@ncc1701gec.Gwinnett.COM (Mr. Magoo) writes:
> 
> >dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
> 
> >> Kirk was mentioned in "The Naked Now", TNG's second episode.
> 
> >And in UNIFICATION...
> 
> 	Not precisely.  Didn't Spock compare Picard to "another
> Captain I once served under" (exact quote may be wrong)?  I seem to
> recall some speculation here that he might have been referring to
> Captain *Pike*.  

Spock did make the indirect reference that you refer to.  But earlier,
he specifically named Captain Kirk, and alluded to the peace overture to
the Klingons: Star Trek VI.


Pat Berry                    pat@berry.Cary.NC.US
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jmartine@zeus.calpoly.edu (Joe Martinez)
Subject: TAS
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:34:50 GMT

Hello, I'm new to this newsgroup, and I have a couple questions:

I've figured out that TOS is the old series, and TNG it the new generation,
but what in the world does TAS stand for?

This Deep Space 9 thing? Is it a continuation of ST:TNG, with the same
characters, or is it something totally different?

Thanks.

-- 
Joe Martinez  (jmartine@ares.calpoly.edu)
"When you base your life on credit, and your loving days are done, checks
 you sign with love and kisses later come back signed INSUFFICIENT FUNDS."
                                                           -Funkadelic
From: steve@donald.tamu.edu (Steve Rikli)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: trek ascii pics
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:11:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University

I have these 2 ascii pics and was wondering if there are any more out
there (ftpable or otherwise):

                           //-n-\\
                   _____---=======---_____
              =====____\   /.. ..\   /____=====
             //         ---\__O__/---         \\
             \_\                             /_/

       ____              _____               ____
      /    \         ___/_____\___          /    \
      \____/    ____/______________\____    \____/
         \\    /::::::::::::::::::::::::\    //
   =================================================
    \==============================================/
             \\  \____________________/  //
               \\  \________________/  //
                 \\      \____/      //
                   \\    _|__|_    //
                     \\/        \//
                      |   ()()   |
                     (|  ()()()  |)
                      |   ()()   |
                       \________/

cheers,
sr.
--
|| Steve Rikli 		   |||  Visualization Lab               ||
|| steve@archone.tamu.edu  |||  Texas A&M University            ||
|| (409) 845-5691          |||  College Station, TX  77843-3137 ||
From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk's mentions in TNG (was Re: Cause and Effect-the other Federation)
Keywords: why didn't that captain question...
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:11:05 GMT
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Apr9.161449.24672@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>rhudson@novell.com (Ron Hudson) writes:
>
>>I think Kirk was mentioned
>>in TNG, in Encounter at Farpoint, during the first few moments of the show, 
>>Picard is walking into engineering and we are hearing his thoughts, he 
>>"thinks" somthing about the "Legindary" Admiral Kirk getting in so much 
>>trouble, even with a vulcan first officer.
>
>You think wrong.  Maybe something like that occurred in the novelization (I
>haven't read it), but no reference even faintly like that occurs in TNG, much
>less the pilot.

Yes, it's in the David Gerrold novelization.  The only actual bona fide Kirk
references in TNG have been the Naked Now with "Constitution Class U.S.S.
Enterprise, James T. Kirk, commanding" and in Unification II when Spock
whines about his involvement of the rest of the crew in the ST VI story.

>
>Tim Lynch


-- 
 Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Redressed Sets (was Re: Intermix Columns on STII vs. TNG, STVI)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <29EB1F16.23355@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes...
>>jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (Jason Lindquist) writes:

>>>If you look closer, A LOT of the sets in STVI were redressed TNG sets!  The
>>>transporter room is another prime offender.  I was somewhat annoyed that
>>>Paramount did this.  They could've just dug up the old sets, couldn't they?

>GET A CLUE!  They likely did this to illustrate the connection from one
>series to another, to make it blindingly obvious that we are talking
>about the same universe in both cases.

     "Get a clue?"  That's harsh, Janis.  
     Anyway, they did it for two reasons: TNG cannibalized all the standing
                                          movie sets when production on
                                          the series began.
                                          and, TUC didn't have the money
                                          to build new.




                ^She's My Cousin But Doesn't She^
                      ^Look Almost Exactly^
           ____________^Like Laura Palmer^____________
          ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^ 
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:3311 rec.arts.drwho:2687
From: schouten@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Mystery of Guinan revealed!!!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:57:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: sp17.SCHOUTEN.92Apr14155707
	<1992Apr13.213337.12375@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<domalley.703268544@unix1.tcd.ie>
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R & D

In article <domalley.703268544@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
> (Not to mention the fact that if anyone tried to unite DW and ST on
> screen, it would have Gene Roddenberry spinning in his grave :-)
> 
> So give it up, OK?
> Daniel.

Speaking of uniting, I always figured that Gallifreyans are really
robots (obviously Gallifreyan == Gaean, just take out a vowel and
a few consonants).  They clearly invented time travel as a way to
conveniently run the universe for the benefit of humanity (why else
is the doctor so preoccupied with earthlings?).  In fact, I'm sure
when the series comes back we'll find out that Guinan is really
the 13th regeneration of the doctor, who is really who Rassilon
became after his 12 regenerations.  Now Rassilon is undoubtedly
none other than R. Daneel Olivaw . . .
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Stupid Question re #6
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:26:33 GMT

In article <11390@mindlink.bc.ca> Alan_York@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan York) writes:
>
>The first was the presence of a kitchen with pots and pans. I was under the
>impression that there was such things as food synthesizers and that kitchens
>were passe.
>
True... it's generally thought that that kitchen is for the officer's meals,
they get the privilige of real food.  It wasn't nearly big enough to feed
the entire 400 person crew.

>The second was the use of the real live paper type books when trying to figure
>out the language to fool the Klingons.  In previous movies and during the TV
>series, real book were valued as collectors items and not used anymore.  What
>happened to the computer?  Why real books?

Chekov said "The universal translator would be recognized."  The book claims
that the traitor erased the Klingon language from the computers, but this
isn't official.

-- 
And now, Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey:
    If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, go real limp, so people will think
    you're a dummy, and they'll try to catch you, because hey, free dummy!
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                               Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine, Eve and Data
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:08:58 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Apr6.100122.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> twiggy@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>I watched Mann & machine last night... and I agree with a few people it does
>seem to cash in on the TNG/Data Android theme.

Really? :-)  I thought it was a fairly intelligent variation on the theme,
in that they did not, for the most part, play up her inexperience but
actually showed her to be fairly knowledgable.  Except for her idiom-itis
at the end, I was really, REALLY happy that they didn't go the route of
her rattling off odd idioms and not checking her data banks to reference
words every so often.  That bit was old late in first season TNG.

I doubt "Mann And Machine" will be the next great SF TV show (I doubt it
will even last the season), but it was a lot better than I'd expected, despite
lame parts like the donut dispenser and the pair messing up Eve's apartment.
It had some genuine laughs, too.

If only Mann didn't look like such a stock character.  The woman playing
Eve is beautiful, though!

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"Can this world not do better than you for a champion?"
"Probably.  I just do the best I can."
					- The Brigadier
					  Doctor Who, "Battlefield"
					  [Probably misquoted]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jkramer@sunwise.UWaterloo.ca (Viscous Pig Dog)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:37:32 GMT

In article <29EB20B4.23524@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.161943.29087@watserv1.waterloo.edu> jkramer@sunwise.UWaterloo.ca (Viscous Pig Dog) writes:
>>
>> [Wonderfull stuff about Kirk being better in the series than in the movies]
>
>  [Some evidence which indicates that I may have been wrong]
>

I haven't seen much of TOS recently. I do remember liking it in general
more than I liked the films. Part of what I didn't like in the films
was Shatner's acting; I _almost_ never noticed his bad acting in the series.

Before I'd be able to defend my point of view I'd have to go look
at about 72 hours of TOS so that I could pick out some scenes that back
me up. I don't think that I'll be able to do that any time soon so instead
I'll just bow out of this one.


Jeff Kramer.

P.S. I, of course, still disagree with you :)
-- 

"We're goin ta find out who the better man is, a chicken or a dog ...
 I tell ya boy, your mother's the better man" , Foghorn Leghorn.
                   "Education is a right", Phhhhhht.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: r.a.s.* in the Net as a Whole
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:12:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.221411.4653@spool.cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>>>>         No. of      % of
>>>>Rank Articles Kbytes Total  Site
>>>>  22   607     622.5  0.2%  ux1.CSO.UIUC.EDU (University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Computing Services Office)
>>>>			      7% rec.arts.startrek.current
>
>>Me, with some help from Joe Zell.  As this is not the free student machine,
>>few people have accounts here.  (Most uiuc posts are from uxa, rather than
>>ux1.) 
>
>Never mind that there are 50 users logged on there as I type. :-)

Most of whom rarely post... My 143 articles are nearly a quarter of the total.
In addition to staff accounts, this machine also provides the accounts for 
elementary CS classes, with login names like cs225xx.  I don't think anyone
else posts on r.a.st from here with any regularity.

The primary uiuc machine, uxa, was much higher in that list, and there
are usually about 200-250 people logged in.

What are you trying to do, make it look like I'm not "costing the net 
hundreds if not thousands of dollars?" :)

-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                                Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: ukoga@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeff "Koganuts" Koga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: "Star Trek" Quotes Update (4/5/92): PLEASE READ
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:45:30 GMT

Since rec.arts.startrek will be rmgrouped later on this month, I have decided
to once again post any future quote lists onto rec.arts.startrek.misc.  If your
site still does not have the rec.arts.startrek* hierarchy by then, there's
always ftp-ing the list from ftp.coe.montana.edu...>=P


							--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
--
Jeff "Koganuts" Koga            ||"Ah yes.  It's a lot like 'Star Trek: The Next
The Film STUDies Master...NOT!!!|| Generation'.  In many ways it's superior, but
"The Uhura" of Cal-Animage Gamma|| will never be as recognized as the original."
ukoga@mcl.ucsb.edu              ||--Wayne Campbell, "Wayne's World"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jpdought@rodan.acs.syr.edu (James P. Doughty)
Subject: Re: Chief |^) O'Brien
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 10:48:14 EDT

In article <NqmgiB3w164w@lunacity.UUCP> joe@lunacity.UUCP (Joseph D. Tingler) writes:
>I agree that it probably was McCoy in EaF.  But they did carefully
>leave the door open.  Well maybe just a crack.  They never did call
>him McCoy.
>Anyway I'm sure this subject was hacked to death long ago.  But I
>wasn't here for it.  So, what is the general concensus?  Who out
>there says it was McCoy in EaF, and who says it wasn't.  Lets hear
>the reasons.  I got mine.

C'mon, it was McCoy.  Reasons in EaF:

	- wistful attitude toward Vulcans (maybe they planned on having
	  Spock dead at the time?  No one had dreamt of Unification
	  [ or season 5 |^) ] at the time).

	- sentimental attitude toward the Big E

	- irascible attitude in general

	- refuses to use transporter

	- correct age

Who else could it be!  It certainly wasn't Joanna McCoy... (are you listening,
Susan Sackett?)

- Jim Doughty, Syracuse University
  jpdought@rodan.acs.syr.edu
From: kratnam@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kapila Ratnam)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: My 10 favorites
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:19:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

The location used for the battle between the Gorn captain and Kirk is
just outside L.A. and I believe it is called either Vasquez Canyon or 
Vasquez Park. This location has appearred in several movies and TV 
shows.  Careful viewing of 'Arena' reveals that this supposedly deserted
planet created by the Metrons is covered with human and equestrian 
tracks.

-- 
"Even in this corner of the galaxy, captain, two plus two equals four"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: cs201139@batman.acslab.umbc.edu (cs201139)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Gross
Keywords: gross, Star Trek VI
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County, Mathematics Department
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:08:11 GMT

Now that you mention it does anyone know exactly how much to date ST VI
has earned to date? Including the european market as well as any other
countries that has aired it...I hope it's over 100 mil so we can have the
possibility of a STVII!

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rslarsen@oregon.uoregon.edu (Ron Larsen)
Subject: Re: question about where silence has lease.
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:29:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.200354.10348@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>"Nagilum", as a name, bears a rather strong similarity, IMO, to "Naglfar", 
>which in Norse mythology is the ship made of dead men's nails that carries the
>hordes of Hel to Ragnarok.

>Considering Nagilum's great interest in death, there may be a reason for 
>that similarity.  

Or perhaps, spelled backwards,  Muligan?  Any bright people out for a 
connection to someone named Muligan?

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