From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: The Adam and Eve Thing
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:09:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.012026.8618@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> 
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
>     Satan said in Isaiah 14:13-14, "I will raise my throne 
>     above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount
>     of the assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred 
>     mountain.  I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will
>     make myself like the Most High."  The Most High replied back 
>     in the next verse, "But you are brought down to the grave,
>     to the depths of the pit."

And one more thing, just to set the record straight, there is no Lord of
the Underworld in Judaism which is true monotheism, only "I am that I am".
What you have quoted from is a rather crude translation of the
original Hebrew scripture which I present here in better, more modern
form:

Ref: JPS:Tanakh ISBN:0-8276-0252-9
ISAIAH 14:

(1)But the Lord will pardon Jacob, and will again choose Israel, and
will settle them on their own soil. And strangers shall join them and
shall cleave to the House of Jacob. (2)For peoples shall take them(a)
and bring them to their homeland; and the House of Israel shall posses
them(b) as slaves and handmaids on the soil of the Lord. They shall be
captors  of their captors and masters to their taskmasters.
(3)And when the Lord has given you rest from you sorrow and trouble, and
from the hard service that you were made to serve, (4)you shall recite
this song of scorn over the king of Babylon:
How is the taskmaster vanished,
How is oppression(c) ended!
(5)The Lord had broken the staff of the wicked,
The rod of tyrants,
(6)That smote peoples wrath
With stroke unceasing,
That belabored nations in fury
In relentless pursuit.
(7)All the earth is calm, untroubled;
Loudly it cheers.
(8)Even pines rejoice at your fate,
And cedars of Lebanon:
"Now that you have lain down,
None shall come up to fell us."
(9)Sheol below was astir
To greet your coming -
Rousing for you the shades
Of all earth's chieftains,
Raising from their thrones
All the kings of nations.
(10)All speak up and say to you,
"So you have been stricken as we were,
You have become like us!
(11)Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
And the strains of your lutes!
Worms are to be you bed,
Maggots your blanket!"
(12)How are you fallen from heaven,
O Shinning One, son of Dawn!(d)
How are you felled to earth,
O vanquisher of nations!
(13)Once you thought in your heart,
"I will climb to the sky;
Higher that the stars of God
I will set my throne.
I will sit in the mount of assembly,(e)
On the summit of Zaphon:(f)
(14)I will mount the back of a cloud -
I will match the Most High."
(15)Instead, you are brought down to Sheol,
To (g)the bottom of the Pit(g).
(16)They who behold you stare;
They peer at you closely:
"Is this the man
Who shook the earth,
Who made realms tremble,
(17)Who made the world a waste
And wrecked its towns,
(h)Who never released his prisoners to their homes?"
(18)All the kings of nations
Were laid, every one, in honor(h)
Each in his tomb;
(19)While you were left lying unburied,
Like loathsome carrion,(i)
Like a trampled corpse
[In] the clothing of slain gashed by the sword
Who sink to the very stones of the Pit.
(20)You shall not have a burial like them;
Because you destroyed (j)your country,
Murdered your people.(j)
Let the breed of evildoers
Nevermore be named!
(21)Prepare a slaughtering block for his sons
Because of the guilt of their father(k)
Let them not arise to possess the earth!
Then the world's face shall be covered with towns.

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a. I.e., the House of Jacob
b. I.e., the peoples
c. Reading marhebah with 1QIs(a) (cf. Septuagint). The traditional
   reading madhebah is of unknown meaning.
d. A character in some lost myth.
e. I.e., the assembly of the gods in council
f. The abode of the gods; cf. Ps 48.3
g. A region of the netherworld reserved for those who have not received
   decent burial; cf. Ezek. 32.21 ff.
h. Emendation yields "Who chained to his palace gate|All the kings of
   nations?|Yet they were all laid in honor ..." The practice of chaining
   captive chieftains to gates is attested in Mesopotamia.
i. So several ancient versions; cf. postbiblical nesel, "putrefying
   flesh or blood."
j. Emendation yields "... countries,|Murdered peoples."
k. Heb. "fathers"
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