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From: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Amiga Networking FAQ (was Re: Looking for Amiga networking SW)
Keywords: amiga, network, TCP/IP, novell
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:32:46 GMT
Reply-To: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson)
Organization: Commodore Engineering

In article <1992Nov14.034445.17081@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan) writes:
>In article <36959@cbmvax.commodore.com> dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance) writes:
>>There've been several networking questions lately which are addressed in the
>>Amiga Networking FAQ.  Since that hasn't been posted in quite a while, I'll
>>repost the last version I saw...
>>
>
>Thanks Dale.  However, isn't it somewhat embarrassing to post an
>article which illustrates so clearly the sad state of affairs in
>Amiga Networking?  The AS225 package seems to be beta quality at
>best and certainly incomplete.

I disagree that the FAQ which I reposted illustrates a sad state of affairs in
Amiga networking.  It shows that there are several products available from
several vendors which offer various solutions to different problems.  AS225 is
one solution to one problem -- the problem of communicating on a campus or
global network via TCP/IP.  It is pretty darn good at that, and is in no sense
incomplete.  It does not, in the currently released version, provide a very
good solution to the problem of hooking up an AmigaDOS-only network.  Just
because it isn't a solution to your problem doesn't mean that it is incomplete.

>Can anybody at Commodore offer some statement about what is going
>on?  My developer contact at CBM Canada has not returned any of my
>phone messages or physical mail queries on this subject.

Presumably you mean "What are Commodore's networking plans?"  Engineers aren't
generally in a position to make any statements about Commodore's plans
whatsoever other than to parrot what has already been announced.  Rest assured,
however, that our networking group is hard at work and that you will probably
be *quite* pleased with their efforts.

>Very curious and somewhat anxious...
>Keith Hanlan  KeithH@bnr.ca  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada 613-765-4645


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From: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org (Richard Carde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Systems with networking standard
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:21:23 GMT
Organization: Amiga Developer (GPSoftware ACM093)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (11.15.92) by Michael B. Smith & Mike Schwartz

In article <jmarin.722156388@messi.uku.fi> jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin) writes:
> val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner) writes:
> 
> >	Amiga:		The Amiga does allow networking standard if you
> >			consider ParNet and SerNet.  They are defacto
 
> Funny.  I thought there was TCP/IP for the Amiga as well.  Maybe I was
> dreaming last night when I thought I was using TCP/IP on Ethernet
> boards.  I have alse been dreaming about ArcNet interface, DECNet
> software etc..  Real funny :-)

And X-Windows, how did I get that working?  I have my Amiga connected
to Internet via a SLIP connection which is part of the new Commodore
TCP/IP software under BETA testing now.

Network software and hardware certainly exists, and I am sure you will
be pretty happy with what you will see, but it will depend on how
cheaply you want to network - ehternet boards aren't that cheap yet.
(SLIP connection is cheapo, but slow, especially NFS over SLIP :( )


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From: willw@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Waring)
Subject: Re:  Programing Terminal Protocols
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:37:12 GMT

In article <jam.3199@jammys.ocunix.on.ca> jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.173651.4447@spcvxb.spc.edu> 5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>
>>terminal protocal, such as an XPR protocol for Atalk3. I want to see if it's 
>>possble to program VT320 emulation as an external (XPR) protocal. Of course it 
>
>One of the current terminal packages suports XEM librarys which are
>external emulators, and I belive there is alreayd a VT3?0 library done.  I
>belive its TERM that supports them.

Currently, Term is the only program to support these external emulations.
X-Comm however, when it is released, will also support the XEM Standard in
the full. There are currently 4 major XEM libraries available:
-	XEMIBM.library		(Full IBM BBS terminal library)
-	XEMVT340.library	(Supports almost every standard of VTxx
				 including VT52, VT102 and VT340 both 7
				 and 8 bit.)
-	XEMAscii.library	A plain ASCII terminal which filters
				standard ANSI commands but doesn't
				act on them.
-	XEMAmiga.library	Uses amiga's built-in console.device to
				display data.

I don't know much more about the standard (The documentation was very
poor), but I do hope that it will be expanded on. If it has enough support
from terminal program authors, then there should be more made available.
If the author is reading this, could he please email me at my address, as
I need to speak to him about a few things..
From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  XPR-Bidirectional
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:21:33 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>Why is BiModem so complex?  You send a packet while recieving a packet,
>If you have to Ack/Nack, you just have an Ack/Nack packet.  Communications

Bi-modem isn't so complex.  The problem is that the author of Bi-modem has
copyrighted the protocol, and if someone were to write a compatible Amiga
protocol and didn't get his permission, they'd get sued so bad.  We would
all as well be running an "Illegal" protocol.

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From: po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: UUCP on BBS
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:42:37 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
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In article <bobl.9hv7@bobsbox.rent.com> bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin) writes:
>There is also a shareware verson of something called AXSh 1.26.  It will
[..]
>for File Front End.  There are also 2 full duplex chat programs as well
>as a very good full screen remote editor.

Well, to be honest, the editor is not so wonderful, but it is usable.
A new one is on it's way, but I can't promise anything..

>AXSh can be had at Wuarchive.wustl.edu somewhere in the systems/amiga/
>directory structure.  I think it's in either Utils or Comm.

Any aminet site will do. It is situated under util/shell, and is named
AXshDemo126.{lha,readme}. It is not perfect, but constantly improving..

-Pasi
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From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Help w/UUCICO and L.Sys entries
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:50:27 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Nov19.114117.6440@gw.wmich.edu> 832root@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> I'm having a problem getting UUCICO to connect to my newsfeed system
> via a different system.
> 
> The System I'm getting news from does not have dial-in connections, so
> here is what I do.
> 
> At WMU we have a terminal server, which I dial into, and hit return
> twice to get a "Enter username> " prompt.  It doesn't really matter what
> I type here, as long as I type something.  I usually just type 'c' and
> hit return.  Then I get a "Local> " prompt.  At this point I type
> "connect winnie" which connects me to our VAX system.  The prompt I get
> is "Username: " (Let's say 'Rick' is my username), then I get a
> "Password: " prompt.  Let's just say my password is 'garbage'.
> Once I'm logged in, I get a "--VAX-->" prompt, at which I must type
> "telnet 141.218.40.40", then get the normal unix login/password
> prompts.   (For the sake of helping me out, assume the same password
> and username.
> 
> Can anyone help me write an L.SYS entry for this?  I've tried everything
> and nothing seems to work.
> 
> The first part would be
> 
> coyote ANY SER: 2400 ATS11=50L1DT3872040 <expect send expect send...>

I will split it into a few lines, as it is rather long:

coyote ANY SER: 2400 ATS11=50L1DT3872040 "" \d\r\r
 sername dummy ocal "connect winnie" sername Rick sword garbage
 VAX "telnet 141.218.40.40" ogin Rick sword garbage

and you should be through.


> - Rick

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From: willw@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Waring)
Subject: Re: Is there a future for CED Pro?
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 12:20:48 GMT

In article <69433@cup.portal.com> jimdawson@cup.portal.com (Jim R Dawson) writes:
>Does anyone know if ASDG has any future plans for CED? (such as an update
>to take advantage of KS37+ features) Or are they going to abandon all of
>us loyal CED users?
>
>                                            jimdawson@cup.portal.com

The last I heard, they were planning CygnusEd Proffesional Version 4.00.
It was from a reliable source so hopefully we'll see the best get better!
Heres hoping...
From: Gene_Ruebsamen@republik.fidonet.org (Gene Ruebsamen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Bi-Modem
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:33:42 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

Why does everyone insist that Bi-Modem doesnt exist for the Amiga?
I have the XPRBimodem.library, came w/no docs, but seems to work ok i
guess, I havent tried out the bi-modem features yet cause i cant find
someone else to use it on.  Also, there is a small comm program made
specifically for full duplex transfers of 2 files simultanoeously.. Its
called twc.lha or something to that effect, its on many boards, its a well
written program and can take advantage of any serial.device driver you may
have including baudbandit.device, i beleive it only works under 2.04 or
above, works fine on 3.0!! 

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Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:31:35 -0500 
From: "Edward D. Berger" <eb15+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Systems with networking standard
	<1992Nov19.210315.14885@fcom.cc.utah.edu>

I hope someone develops an expansion card for the A1200, which includes
an inexpensive (localtalk?) network connection as well as 32bit wide RAM.
Then it would make a nice system for K-12 schoool clusters, which share
a printer.  Of course a faster ethernet version for more would be nice too.

-Ed Berger
eb15@andrew.cmu.edu
From: mcscs1wji@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: GVP A530 & Supra Modem HELP!
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:51:54 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

I've just bought a GVP 80MB A530 for my A500 (upgraded to WB2 and ECS). I've
been running a BBS (the main reason I bought the GVP) for about four months now
with a Supra 2400 Plus modem. The software I use to answer the phone is
TrapDoor 1.83. Everything is hunky-dory until I try and download a file (like
my Fido mail packets) with the serial port set at 9600 baud (it`s a buffered
modem). Then I get lots of transmission errors, every 2k bytes or so.
Downloading at 2400 baud is fine.. but slow.

I know this isn`t a configuration error as I've tested it without the GVP, and
everything works fine as it did before. It doesn't work with Term 2.4 either.

Has anyone else had any problems with this kind of configuration, in particular
with the GVP A530?

Cheers,

Bil
From: johnv@tower.actrix.gen.nz (John Veldthuis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: A2232 serial port card
Distribution: World
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:22:49 +1200
Organization: Amiga Virus Extermination Services, TAUG

Someone replied to my question about the A2232 serial card and said there
was new software on the WB2.1 update. I managed to get the driver off the
disks and all works fine.

He also said that GVPPatch worked on the driver as well.
I would like to say to him that I got the A2232 card so that I could throw
GVPPatch away as it was slowing the disk transfer rate by about 40%.
Since installing the card and dropping the program I have had no troubles
with the GVP controller interfering with the serial transfers.

I lost the message that the guy sent me but if you see this then you don't
need the GVPPatch program unless you are using the Amiga's port.
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From: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org (Richard Carde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GPFax launching Getty
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:09:03 GMT
Organization: Amiga Developer (GPSoftware ACM093)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (11.15.92) by Michael B. Smith & Mike Schwartz

In article <Ray_Hines.03du@dream.uucp> Ray_Hines@dream.uucp (Ray Hines) writes:
> In a message dated Tue 17 Nov 92 11:15, Gregp@gpsoft.adsp.sub.org (dr Greg 
> wrote:
> 
>  GG> Ken (and other GPFax users.)
> 
> How much does GPFax retail for?  I may be interested in it.

Contact your local Supra Dealer.  (Aus $159.00)
 
>  / /\     Raymond Hines              Internet: Ray_Hines%dream.uucp@ufl.edu

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From: thly@pe.chalmers.se (Thomas Lydhig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Anos ver 2.9i questions!
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:13:37 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

I have tree questions about AmigaNOS v2.9i:
    1. How do I use the Autodial function?
    2. What is the new features of v2.9i?
    3. Why can't AmigaNOS have documentation included like all other software
       (FREE/SHARE WARE)? E.G. MAIN.DOC, HISTORY.DOC, NEW_FEATURES.DOC. Then
       someone have made all this good software why can't he bring information
       about how to use it?

THANX,
	Thomas Lydhig		/ thly@pe.chalmers.se
From: xde@xtxde.chi.il.us (Dave Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Best High Speed Modem Deal?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:40:36 CDT
Organization: Not

In article <2B06CB82.15816@ics.uci.edu> rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken) writes:
> 
> Ok...Excuse me for being naive but I would like to hear some reports..
> 
> What is the best deal for a modem that works with an Amiga that operates
> at above 9600...?
> 
> The modems should be judged on price, speed, availablity, support, and
> reliablility...Complete details should be given for comparisions..
> And info on how to configure these modems to work for the Amiga would be
> good for us lame brains who don't know any better..
> 
> Thanks for the info in advance,
> Jyanken
> 
> PS- WOuld a Zyxel U-1496E work possibly on an Amiga?
> (My assumptions say "no", but I could be wrong..)

  The Zyxel works fine on an Amiga, I just hooked mine up this week. 
Connects much better than my Supra14.4K did, and has more features, 
plus faster when connecting to other zyxel's. It's worth the 50$ more than
the Supra..

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From: Q-Bert@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Q-Bert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Looking for wyse 60 term program
Distribution: world
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:54:18 EDT
Organization: The QuBE BBS

In a message dated Thu 18 Nov 92  9:44, Klein@seq.uncwil.edu (tony Klein)
wrote:

 KK> I am looking for a term program that will emulate a wy60, preferably
 KK> p.d. but commercial would be ok.  Any pointers would be appreciated.

There is something called TinyTerm for the PC computer, but it's
commercial.
It will emulate a Wyse 60.

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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: Best High Speed Modem Deal?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:37:21 GMT

In article <BxwCxx.F7w@news.iastate.edu> madsen@cs.iastate.edu (Dave Madsen) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.174805.871@head-cfa.harvard.edu> dj@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Diab Jerius) writes:
>>
>>i just got two zyxel 1496E's, one for my Amiga, one for an IPC at work.  it
>>works like a charm on the Amiga (B2000, VLT w/ the standard serial.device
>[...]
>>
>>diab
>>-------------
>>Diab Jerius                       Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
>
>Will this modem work with the generic version of GPFax? (ie. does it
>have the Rockwell chipset?)
>
>--Dave
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Systems Support Group |   Iowa State University     | madsen@cs.iastate.edu


We are told that the Class 2 generic version works with the ZyXEL, but 
is there a mail-order house that sells it? I called every one listed in
the December issue of Amiga World and struck out each time. Most are
even unaware that there are three versions of GPFax software. Something
is rotten in GPFax-land!!!

Herb


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From: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org (Richard Carde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GPFax class 2 generic
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:53:28 GMT
Organization: Amiga Developer (GPSoftware ACM093)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (11.15.92) by Michael B. Smith & Mike Schwartz

In article <1992Nov17.184938.5058@sarah.albany.edu> hibrown@vidar.albany.edu (Herb Brown) writes:

> Is the class 2 generic GPFax software available through mail-order?
> This is the version that presumably will work with ZyXEL modems.

ZyXEL works find with the generic CLASS 2 version of GPFax.

> If so, from whom? 

Try your local Supra dealer - Supra are handling all GPFax sales outside
Australia.

> Thanks,
> Herb Brown  Math Dept  The Univ at Albany  Albany, NY 12222  (518) 442-4640

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From: tony@ais.org (Tony Poole)
Subject: SupraFax Modem data calls
Followup-To: tony@ais.org 
Summary: SupraFax answers with fax tone always 
Keywords: help,me,before,I,smash,this,modem 
Organization: University of Michigan Computing Club (UMCC)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:24:07 GMT


Can someone point out to me what I have to do to get my SupraFax v.32bis
modem (14.4) to answer an incoming data call?  All it gives me now is the
fax guard tones (I believe), no matter how I configure it.

It would help if the fax stuff was documented so I could RTFM, but it isn't.

Incidentally, I answer with getty, so if I need something special when
starting getty up, please include that.

Thanks!

Tony


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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki)
Subject: VLT and insert.
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:50:00 GMT


Does anybody know how to get VLT to go into "insert" mode?  Like in vi
when you enter something in the middle of the line and the characters
to the right move to the right...  Does this make any sense?

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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