From: osele@acsu.buffalo.edu (itiakorit j osele)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,alt.politics.correct,soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Slavery (was Re: Sexist African Males)
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:43:32 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <viking.703413166@vincent1.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>In <1992Apr15.203120.15898@acsu.buffalo.edu> osele@acsu.buffalo.edu
> (itiakorit j osele) writes:
>
>>In article <viking.703318611@aviator.cc.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>
>>Killing and looting is human progress ! May be our value systems are
>>diametrically opposite.
>
>	Maybe I was being slightly sarcastic.

    Sarcasm - hardly the case, condescending maybe. You pontificate,
    but it is all from - I suspect - a pedestal of ignorance.


>>Certainly, when say, a body of knowledge [ e.g scientific ]
>>is ascribed to some races and not the others, this is implicit racism.
>>It does not have to be blatant DISDAIN FOR OTHERS. There are many ways
>>racism can manifest itself.
>
>	Perhaps it could also do with one region/race coming up with
>an idea earlier than others?  The Greeks knew a lot more about treating


That is correct and it is called regionalism/racism. This is basic stuff.


>puncture wounds than even our doctors in the Civil War (USA), yet this
>is not seen as a racist statement.  Does the fact that Egypt rarely used
>armor while the Greeks wore lots of it denote racism or perhaps just
>different needs and/or different solutions?  I like Uhlmann's Razor:

It is good you brought this example of Egypt versus Greece. Why Egypt ?
Because, Egypt happens to be the earliest form of [read contribution to]
civilization recorded. Greeks new a lot more that Egyptians, that is a
given, but they [Greeks] built on what the Egyptians had contributed.

Now here is the crux: who were those Egyptians, from whom the Greeks
learnt the first forms of civilization ? This debate would sound like
regionalism and not racism if wasn't for the fact that one side says
those Egyptians [who built pyramids] were African/black, and the other
side says that they were European/white. The point is African/black and
European/white are two different races. The latter, IMO, painting Egypt
white because it is impossible to remove it from Africa !

If you can't see this as a racist arguement, then there is a problem
somewhere. And sure enough this net should help solve that problem.

>When stupidity is sufficient explanation, there is no need to have
>recourse to any other.

This, just goes to suggest what kind of person you are. You can't lead me
to this lowly path. I don't subscribe to the net for mudslinging; there is 
already too much of it around us.

Itiakorit

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