HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Need Action! help
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 00:33:48 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

(re: password protection/booting of hd/etc.)

unless of course someone just happened to have an 8-bit drive and an SIO 
cable hidden in their coat...  ;)

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From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: My ego VS UUE
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 08:32:03 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Well, one thing I noticed is (this isn't off the subject, but it is 
totally useless information) that ARCing usually trims down a (set of) 
file(s) enough that when the ARC is UUEncoded, it takes almost exactly 
the same amount as the unARC'd, unUUEncoded data.  Perhaps ALFing may be 
an even better idea (or does that compress at all?  I've only seen a few 
ALFs in my day, and Bob Puff's SuperUnARC/UnALF 2.4 does the trick...  I 
notice that ALFing stores ARCs, so it may be a better compression.

Don't quote me!

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From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: FORTH-83 for Atari 8-bit; anyone interested?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:45:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.035608.22678@mtu.edu> jjmcwill@mtu.edu (Jeff McWilliams) writes:
>Pardon my ignorance toward Forth folks, but what was the language designed
>for, and what are the PROS and CONS for choosing FORTH over some other
>programming language?
>
>Jeff McWilliams

Forth was designed by the astronomy community for real-time telescope control.
It is fairly efficient, producing code which runs close to assembly or Action
in speed.  It is, however, very different from most other languages in concept
and in practice.  There are many public domain implementations of Forth for a
wide variety of platforms, possibly some commercial versions as well.

Forth provides a 'kernel' of defined keywords, and the means to add your own in
an interactive environment.  All editing, compiling, and execution are done
within the Forth environment; code is edited on text screens which are compiled
directly into memory at 'load' time.  Forth uses an explicit stack for input
and output arguments, and Reverse Polish Notation (2 3 +  instead of 2 + 3);
it could be considered object oriented programming, in a way.


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From: winston@merk.com (Winston Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: [--- Lunar Calendar ---]
Keywords: CAL, calendar, lunar
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:28:33 GMT
Organization: Technology Partners, Inc.


Hello!  I noticed that your message was postmarked from Jerusalem and I was
wondering if I could ask you a question?  I am reading COMP.SYS.ATARI.8BIT
on a UNIX system that uses a "CAL" calendar program to print out a solar
calendar.  Are there any calendar programs out there that print out a
--LUNAR-- calendar that follows the, what is it, nineteen year lunar cycle?
I have seen programs in the USA for the ATARI 8-BIT and other computers
that will print out the solar calendar, yet I have never seen a computer
program that does a lunar calendar.  I wonder why I haven't seen such
programs?  I am sure that the large Jewish, Chinese, and Asian ethnic
populations around Boston Massachusetts, would find a lunar calendar
program useful.  Such a program would be very useful for keeping track
of the many religious observances that follow the lunar calendar cycle.
I am curious... are there any programs for the ATARI 6502 8-BIT that can
generate a lunar calendar?
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Looking for source code from Analog
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:58:35 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Yes! Other then simple stuff like right margin, I'd like another
VBI vector. Since the XL series only have 2 joysticks, they currently
read the first 4 pots, then copy those values into the next 4 pot regs.
I would like that to be replaced with start-up code that puts an RTS
some where in RAM, then jumps to it rather then copy the pot values.
That way, all you would have to do is put your continuation code after
the RTS, a JMP <ROUTINE> or actual routine, then just store a NOP where
the RTS used to be. Your routine would then run every VBI & would be
simplier then the current process.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jjmcwill@mtu.edu (Jeff McWilliams)
Subject: Re: Looking for source code from Analog
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:24:58 GMT

In article <72698@cup.portal.com> Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com writes:
>Yes! Other then simple stuff like right margin, I'd like another
>VBI vector. Since the XL series only have 2 joysticks, they currently
>read the first 4 pots, then copy those values into the next 4 pot regs.
>I would like that to be replaced with start-up code that puts an RTS
>some where in RAM, then jumps to it rather then copy the pot values.
>That way, all you would have to do is put your continuation code after
>the RTS, a JMP <ROUTINE> or actual routine, then just store a NOP where
>the RTS used to be. Your routine would then run every VBI & would be
>simplier then the current process.

Hmm, that sounds interesting.  But where would you put the VBI vector?
Down on Page Zero somewhere?  You would have to steal 3 bytes, for the
JMP ADDR to replace the RTS.  Well, I'll be sure and get the hardware
debugged and built as soon as I get the parts.... so that I can 
publish the modification.   It sounds like we could see some really
interesting operating system upgrades come out of this hardware project.


Jeff McWilliams

-- 
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Leaves Turning, falling, withering
Wind blowing, rustling, chilling
candlelight will soon be flickering
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969)
Subject: Re: 8" disk drives
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:09:24 GMT

jack holt:
 
do you happen to know if the mio will run an 8" drive? if so, how could
this be accomplished? i dont yet own an atr8000 - else i'd probably be
able to figure out this installation. right now, though -- i'm running
on: 256k mio, 1050 happy, 1meg 130xe, hayes 9600 modem. 
 
i also own a supra hard drive interface, 850 interface and a couple hard
drives..
 
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
Mail Path: uplherc.upl.com!neb!bbs!1fa
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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: My ego VS UUE
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 10:57:31 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <72423@cup.portal.com>

RE: Point #1, I'll stand by my 1.5 expansion statement. Matter of fact, some
of the files I D/L'd were that were in that 1.5 range were done by you. It's
more then just a problem with the encoding scheme. I believe the UUE uses a
46 byte line with a two byte checksum for every line which would pump it
up, the rest of the expansion I'm not sure about, but it DOES make the file
1.5 times the original. IMO: I'm sure the original authors had something in
mind by adding a checksum to every line, but I really doubt if it serves a
useful purpose anymore. Since most everything is transfered via Xmodem etc.
it's more likely a bad file to begin with. A checksum for the entire file
makes a lot more sense to me & apparently the authors of ARC, ZIP, ...

I'm aware of the bias & plan on the numbers being represented by ASCII
characters from !-r or !-v, something in that range anyway. No control
characters, no extended characters. I've already sent a file to myself
on another BBS (ricortes@kludge.com) & I'll double check that everything
gets through correctly. It shouldn't matter what character sets another
computer uses *IF* (note the big if) they just echo the file as is. Who
cares if computer X thinks a 65 in a file means "strip and go nude", as
long as it echos the 65, were fine.

Point #3 Speed, I've already got a mutiple precision binary division
routine that'll go to 255 significant figures for the operand/divisor.
I'm planning on eventually getting it working as an Action! procedure
along with maybe some multiplication. It may take me a while to get
everything neatly done, but as long as I'm willing to code in M/L, you
shouldn't worry about speed. If your really worried, I could run some
tests, but even if there is a net loss in speed on the decode end, the
online time/transmission/echos for the entire Internet system will be
reduced by 15% (Only for files of course!). Who wouldn't take a slightly
longer decode time in exchange for a shorter down load time?

BTW: I want to thank Douglas Clement for correcting my terminology on
number base systems. My excuse is I was trained as a chemist so...

I guest for the doubters, I should do a little demo. Turns out Atari
Basic can just manage to do the job albeit slowly. I'm sure somebody
about :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969)
Subject: Re: Need Action! help
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:00:20 GMT

Bill Marcum:
 
Any idea how I can access or 'hide' that MIO config menu - so I could
lock it out and add it into my password protection program?
 
If Bill doesnt know, does anyone else?? What memory location does the
menu load into? Maybe I can capture it or something. 
 
Gads! Sure wish I was a more seasoned programmer. Just a hacker for
now..
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Posted by BBS User: James King
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From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: My ego VS UUE
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 01:05:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Rick Michael Cortese here at Portal raises the possibility of an interesting
alternative to UUencode.
 
First, Rick, UUencode turns 3 bytes of original 8-bit data (24 bits)  into
From: "Marek Tomczyk" <UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: My ego VS UUE
Date: 21 Dec 1992 10:47:24 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world


> (..)
> done more then small basic program to test it out. I guess what I'm
> looking for is someone to pick the idea apart so if I'm wrong I won't
> waste a lot of time cruching code.  Does anyone see a fatal flaw in
> this thing or am I right?

All what you say sounds reasonable, BUT are you 100% sure that
all ASCII characters >32 & <128 are accepted and aren't converted
by any network gateways. BTW: Which ASCII characters are used by
UUENCODERS?

Marek
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: My ego VS UUE
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 21:44:55 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Hmmmm... It would be a good idea to double check exactly what UUENCODE
does, but I believe it's based on 64 characters. Since it's based on
only 64 characters(I think) it only gets about 5 of 8 bits for each
character ergo the the 1:1.5 expansion. I looked at a couple of refs
for ASCII. 0-31 => control characters, <esc>, etcetera. 32-126 => straight
characters & puctuation. 127=> <DEL or Back Space>. It looks like just
the right amount for what I propose i.e. base 85. Base 86 or 93 or
whatever would work too for that matter. 
This thing has almost got me excited. I don't know how much UUENCODED
goes around (since I try and avoid it <grin>), but this encryption
scheme seems to good to be true. Makes me wonder if I'm really right & if
so, why did everyone else miss it? Shrinking those UUE thingies by 25%
seems like a desirable goal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: info wanted on MIO,Black Box,Kermit-65 and RS232
From: Raul Romero <ROMBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 16:31:22 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center


Hello Everebody

  Let me start by Thanking every body who help me with my last post.

    Can Somebody please tell me what is a MIO and a Black Box and where
I can get them??? Can they connect to an atari 800 and 1050??? If
I get them can I connect a SCSI or MFM hard drive??? What else would
I need to connect the hard drive? Do they have RS232 connection for
a modem??? If not where can I buy 850??? Does that have RS232 connection?
Is it possible to use a 9600 buad modem? :) Where can I get a copy of
Kermit-65 or buy it??? Please do not tell me to down load it from some
BBS. I need the disk. Thanks very much for any info.

Thanks for your time.
Raul

P.S. Have A Happy New Year!!!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: winston@merk.com (Winston Smith)
Subject: Re: Kermit-65 source code
Keywords: KERMIT, UNARC, huge, VT100, Speedscript, Catch-22
Organization: Technology Partners, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:14:48 GMT


About the "mammoth file too large to fit on an ATARI 6502 8-BIT disk drive"
ARC incompatibility problem....

<* Sound Of Trumpet Fanfare... *>
Fortunately (for me) the System Manager was able to come through in this
crisis.  Yay!  It turns out that there is a utility he has that is able to
run an MS-DOS process as a child process within the UNIX shell environment.
He keeps it around for just such emergencies.  I was able to start up an
MS-DOS subtask and run an UNARC-ing utility on the UNIX system, to unbundle
the KERMIT-65 archive.  (The file is immense!)  I don't know what I would
have done if I had been on a VMS, CMS, AOS, PRIME, or some other operating
system.  The unarcing was practically instantaneous... WOW! was that fast.
  
I tell you, starting up the MORE/LESS pager on the KERMIT-65 code was a
very moving experience.  When I got down to the 80 character graphics font
definition I openly wept, the experience was so moving....  (I also
discovered I few things I had never realised, like that the DEC special ISO
GRAPHICS CHARACTER SET for VT52/VT100 was --ALSO-- available in --FORTY
COLUMNS--.  I never knew that you could draw ISO GRAPHICS in forty-columns!
You can have a lot of fun with this!  There were also forty column versions
of LEFT-BRACE, RIGHT-BRACE, BACKQUOTE, and TILDE.  I am sure that I had
seen them before, but it never registered before that the ATARI 6502 8-BIT
has --NO-- braces in its normal character set!)
 
Paging through the KERMIT-65 code was almost a religious experience; it was
so moving.  It was a thing of beauty to behold, and a joy forever!  (Now if
only someone would substitute XMODEM for KERMIT, and add MS-DOS ANSI
GRAPHICS along with the DEC ISO GRAPHICS, you would have a VT100 that
really *-ROCKS-* !)  Just walking through the source listing I am really
learning a lot.  Thank you!  Thank you ATARI Archive at UMICH. !
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert M Funk)
Subject: Hard Drive interface
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:03:07 GMT

In article <92357.100301JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET> Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:

>One thing you need to know about disk interface technology:
>The interface you buy for your Atari,whether it be Black BOX,
>Supra Interface, or perhaps another called the MIO from ICD
>(also not available from them anymore), they all offer a SCSI
>interface for hard drives.
>
>This means you can connect a SCSI drive directly to your computer.
>You cannot connect an IDE or ESDI drive.
>You can connect an MFM or  RLL drive if you buy a SCSI to MFM
>or SCSI to RLL interface.  CSS sells both of these if you need them.

As I recall, the Black Box (and maybe MIO) does allow ESDI (or is it
EDSI?) connection in addition to SCSI.  I could be mistaken, but I do
remember reading that long ago.  (I don't have a BB or MIO, or even a
hard drive.)
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Subject: My Atari 800 has a power-up problem
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:38:43 GMT

 I have an Atari 800 with a power up problem:  Sometimes (lately
very frequently) I won't get a video image at all, or a pattern
of vertical and horizontal bars for the video image.  After flipping
the power switch on and off several times, I can coax the machine
to operate correctly.  I tried opening the machine up and reseating
connectors, and chips in sockets, but that didn't clear this
problem.  I also have an Atari 400 I am willing to steal boards/parts
from, any suggestions?
=========================================================================
"the earthly power sucks shadowed milk from sleepy tears undone
from nippled skin as smooth as silk the bugles blown as one" Peter Gabriel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: Re: info wanted on MIO,Black Box,Kermit-65 and RS232
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:24:30 GMT


Well here goes..I'll try to answer as briefly as possible, if you
have any more questions send me email.
You can't run an MIO or a BB on an 800.
They need a PBI to hook up to so its XL/XE stuff.
They don't make MIOs anymore but you may be able to pick one up
used in a sale from here or Genie or CIS.
Both the BB & MIO have RS232s and printer ports and interface HDs.
The MIO now can be hooked to SCSI, SASI controllers and imbeded
controllers..(with HDFMTPH9.COM) to format imbeded controllers.
The MIO only stores data the standard 256byte blocks and stores 
it backwards. The BB can go either way (its switchable) and it
can store in 512byte blocks like the ibm drives. Its compatible
with more drives than the mio.
OH yes..the BB is sold by CSS (716-429-5639 voice).
The BB has a number of attachments that make life wonderful for
the 8bitter like the floppy board that makes ibm high density drives
compatible w/atari and makes them go at lightning speed.
Both MIO & BB support high baud modem rates to 19.2k b.
Send me a disk and I'll put Kermit-65 on it and send it back.
My address is Joe Sabatino, 31 Skoplee, Girard, OH 44420-3308.
If you had access to the archive you could d/l it from there
using the BART mailer.
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Need Action! help
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 16:26:00 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Speaking of Action!... somebody set me straight.  Was BobTerm (or any of 
Bob Puff's ditties) written in Action!?...

I recall hearing that somewhere.


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From: MIS0160@MVS.UDEL.EDU (Roger Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Atari 800
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:01:00 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

I OWN AN 8-BIT 65XE AND AM QUITE HAPPY WITH IT EXCEPT FOR THE KEYBOARD.
BEING A TOUCH TYPIST, THE XE KEYBOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE 'RIGHT FEEL'.
ANYWAY, I BOUGHT AN OLD USED 800.  IT SEEMED TO WORK FINE UNTIL
I TRIED TO SAVE A FILE TO MY 1050 DRIVE.  THE DISK LIGHT CAME ON AND
A COUPLE OF BEEPS OCCURRED, THEN THE DISK CONTINUED SPINNING WITH A
BEEP MAYBE EVERY 30 SECONDS.  EVENTUALLY, DOS (2.5) TIMED OUT.
I CAN LOAD FILES FINE, JUST CAN'T SEEM TO WRITE TO THE DISK DRIVE
WITHOUT TIMING OUT.  IS THERE A CHIP OR BOARD THAT NEEDS REPLACING?
ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
ROGER COLE
UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE
INTERNET: ROGER.COLE@MVS.UDEL.EDU
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Looking for source code from Analog
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 11:15:01 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec31.182458.24701@mtu.edu>

BTW: I meant LEFT margin! I'll see how many byte the current pot
routine takes now
Could be put there or maybe some where in the stack area. There's other
stuff you could do, like monitor the consol keys, steal the disk vectors.
At one time I'd written a routine that would replace the DSKINV & SIOV
vectors with user written ones in ram where the international character
set goes. Bob Wooley had speculated that Flight Simulator was bugging
out when the XF551 was switching to double density during the software
protection test. I was going to have it switch to single after every
call to DSKINV. After I got it running I never bothered to pick up
a copy of FS to check it out <g>.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: FIEL <FIEL@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Need for driver simulator for sleep research project
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:48:42 GMT

I have a student interested in studying early signs of drowziness
and fatique in a driving situation.  The problem is I do not have
source code for any type of driving simulator or similar real-time
meaningful task (e.g. radar operators scope).  I need source so that
we can incorporate special events for assessing various forms of
viglance and responding.  I have 6502 assemblers, Action, avariety
of Basics and DOSs. I could probably find any of the languages produced
for the 8-bits in my "warehouse" of Atari materials.  Please respond
with any ideas or potential sources you might be aware of.  I also have
STs but have not programmed them (except some simple GFA Basic 3.0)
Thanks for any help at all.

Don Fields,  UNB Sleep Lab   fiel@unb.ca
Psychology Department        (506) 453-4707  voice
University of New Brunswick  (506) 453-4505  fax
Fredericton, NB  CANADA
E3B 6E4
From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.8bit.archive
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 12:04:38 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969) writes:

> together, I'd be all for it, but the way it stands now - this one is
> scarcely getting much use.

Interesting that you mention that.  My last call was only the day before 
yesterday (23rd) and there are already another 60 (at least) messages! 
(this place has a capacity on this particular newsgroup of only 60 
messages, which is why I call so often...besides.. I love loading up 
BobTerm :)  )

heh...strange irony, eh?  Musta been a 1-time case, just to confuse me! 
:)

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From: 6500dtpt@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (David Tipton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: XE Gato and Antics for trade
Keywords: trade
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:25:47 GMT
Distribution: comp

I have an Atari XE Gato cartridge (submarine warfare simulation)
that I would like to trade for another XE cartridge.  Please
leave me e-mail if interested.
 
Also, I have a stack of about 30 old Antic magazines that I would
like to trade for something - maybe a cartridge or something?!?
Leave me mail and we can discuss trades...

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