HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Subject: M.O. Tix for Vegas are in. Stoked!
Reply-To: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:23:48 GMT

	I mailed in for Las Vegas tickets the first day of the mail order.
Got my yellow slip Friday and now have my tickets in hand. I'm in So.Calif.
Friday-Jester  Saturday-Scull&Roses   Sunday-Skeleton in the pool
Hang in there with the MO and I hope your yellow slip arrives soon too.
	TicketBastard moved the sale date for 'Vegas up to Sat 4/11 because 
Rush went on sale Sun 4/12.  It seems TB doesn't want _huge_ lines of 
RushHeads mixing with DeadHeads. ;-)
                               Stoked! Jack Stafford@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
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From: Alan Sodoma <ajs@jloda.cci.com>
Subject: Re: Senaca Falls NY?
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:48:49 GMT


|
|About 20mins away, toward Rochedter, is Canindagua (sp?); the preforming
|arts center is there (Bobby played there last year).

Bobby played in Darien Lake last year.  That's about an hour west from
Canandaigua.  Darien Lake is a crappy place to check out a concert.  
There's not enough bathrooms or concessions and it's usually real hard
to actually get into the amphitheatre.  Also, traffic is pretty bad 
after the show unless you leave real quick or hang around for awhile.

The Finger Lakes Performing Arts Center in Canandaigua on the other hand
is a great place.  It's the typical 'shed' set-up.  About 2500 seats and
a big lawn.  About 12000 seats total.

Al
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: New York democrats: Please vote today!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:06:41 GMT
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet


	If you're a registered democrat in New York state, please vote today!
If you're not registered, please do so soon.  Given the choice between 
Clinton and Jerry Brown, I hope you choose the man whose first name is the
same as our favorite guitarist!
From: sjw_nc@caen.engin.umich.edu (Scott J Wilderman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Tha Mail Order portion of the FAQ
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:19:56 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

If one were to accidently (stupidly/imbecilely/moronically is 
more appropriate in our case) send GTDS a postal order that
included $6.75 instead of $6.25 for the registered mail fee,
would the wonderful, kind people at GDTS consider it an oversight
and gladly fill the order, or would they reject such a request
out of hand?

Any insights would be appreciated.

-scott
From: lp1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Laura Rose Palanker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Obnoxious postal workers
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:34:56 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

well just to help out the postal service some...
    I went to our Carnegie Mellon campus post office today and the lady
was very nice about it. She said "all the deadheads keep coming for mail
orders," and "which show are you going to?" and she even hand-stamped it
twice, with a smile.
FWIW,
laura
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From: jdh@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan David Harris)
Subject: Two From The Vault
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:23:51 GMT

I posted a message some time ago about the release date being this  
thursday.  Well we get our new release list every friday and the date is  
still listed as the 16th.  So to the best of my knowledge it will be out  
on Thursday.  Also word is BMG, Arista's parent company, will be  
distributing it in the Washington DC area, due to Shwartz Bros. going  
bankrupt.  Oh I forgot I work in a record store.  So I'll be crossing my  
fingers that come thursday I'll have my copy in hand
From: maginnis@math.ksu.edu (John Maginnis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Tha Mail Order portion of the FAQ
Date: 8 Apr 1992 14:40:39 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.math.ksu.edu

sjw_nc@caen.engin.umich.edu (Scott J Wilderman) writes:

>If one were to accidently (stupidly/imbecilely/moronically is 
>more appropriate in our case) send GTDS a postal order that
>included $6.75 instead of $6.25 for the registered mail fee,
>would the wonderful, kind people at GDTS consider it an oversight
>and gladly fill the order, or would they reject such a request
>out of hand?

>Any insights would be appreciated.

>-scott

Unfortunately, I have heard of similar situations where orders were
refused for putting in too much money.  It probably depends on how
many orders are sent in for that show; I think they toss your order
aside and come back to it after filling all the other orders.

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From: BONNIE%CEVAX2@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
Subject: metal-heads
Reply-To: BONNIE%CEVAX2@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:28:23 GMT

About this debate about metal head behavior at concerts:

I used to work at Merriweather Post Pavillion selling T-shirts.
Usually the crowds were fine, especially mellow shows like Dylan 
and CSN.  But when we had bands like Guns & Roses, Whitesnake, 
Def Leppard etc. there was a HUGE increase in theft and vandalism.
We had people yank the cords on the lights and jump behind the stand
and run off with dozens of shirts.  Not that the entire crowd (mostly
15-16 year old boys) was this way, but the ones that are give a bad
name.  So I can understand the bias.  As a rule they are NOT as easy-
going as, say, a dead crowd, and many were rude as hell.

Plus, many of their T-shirts were so sexist it made me sick.  GnR sold
one that showed a woman that looked like she was raped and beaten, 
leaning against a wall with her underpants by her ankles, and it said 
in spray-painted letters "Guns and Roses was here".  And Def L. had one
with a picture of a big ugly female robot that spelled "WOMEN" as an
anachronism for "Worshipping Our Master's Every Need".  Nice, eh?
From: noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Phish
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:36:00 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

merc@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Mercury Lee) writes:

>Could someone send me the address to join the Phish mailing list? I just
>got some GREAT tapes, (thanx Eric!!) and want to find out more about this
>killer<--OH MY GOD!!! I'VE BEEN IN CALIFORNIA TOO LONG!!! band. Jeez, is it
>late or what, ramble, ramble, ramble.....

There is now a USENET group, rec.music.phish.  If you want to join the
Phish.Net though (it functions like Dead Flames), send a message to
Phish-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu and the address for posting is just
the same, without the "-request".  Good luck!

-Noah Cole
--
Noah.Cole@Dartmouth.Edu - noah@coos.dartmouth.edu - aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
             "And monkeys might fly out of my butt!"- Wayne Campbell
             "I don't know how do say what's got to be said"- U2
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From: tom szilagyi <IBY213@uriacc.bitnet>
Subject: a couple questions
Reply-To: IBY213@uriacc.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 00:16:17 GMT

   sorry to waste the bandwith...

   what is the current IP address for the dead.site that has the current
   FAQ?

  ..actually, with this info, the rest of my questions will be answered...

  thanx in advance...

  -tom szilagyi
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From: kent@wasp.eng.ufl.edu (Kent Phelps)
Subject: Charlotte camping
Reply-To: kent@wasp.eng.ufl.edu (Kent Phelps)
Organization:  University of Florida, Digital Design Facility 
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 16:36:56 GMT

Well we have mail ordered for Charlotte and have our fingers crossed.  I have
never been to the new Charlotte venue.  Are there any reccomended campgrounds
that are not too far away from the stadium?

--
    Kent Phelps         | Internet:   kent@wonderhog.eng.ufl.edu
University of Florida   |                   kent@digital.ufl.edu
Digital Design Facility |                     Phone:904-392-2464
From: garry@alice.att.com (garry hodgson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: "Old" tape trees  (was: Re: Riverbend 6/85 )
Summary: old tape trees are fine
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:51:47 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

In article <1992Apr8.161515.371@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff) writes:

> | Shwa writes:


> | >Zack asked about favorite Space jams.  My favorite Space is in one of my
> | >favorite second sets:  6/24/85 Riverbend, OH.


>    I have a 3rd gen board of the second set.

>    How does the net feel about trees of "old" tapes?

Based on the response I got for the Cap '78 tree (~95 people),
I'd think the net likes the idea.

Personally, I think it's a great idea.  I'm sure lots of folks
have killer tapes laying around that would be fun to spread around.
I really enjoyed the chance to share one of my favorites.
And running a tree lets you turn on lots of folks to your favorite
shows, relatively painlessly.

I think Scott Baldwin (roserunner?) ran the last non-tree tape offering
'round here, supplying many of us with *great* 6/9/77 tapes.
If any of you think running a tree is hard, think about 
supplying 100 people with tapes of a show all by yourself.

Some of the newer traders have a great many recent (1989-1992)
shows, thanks to the efforts of those running trees in the last
few years.  But many have little or none of the older shows,
and would like to round out their collections.

So, assuming the tape is tree-root-quality to begin with,
I'd say go for it.  And sign me up.

-- 
Garry Hodgson			A slow winter day
AT&T Bell Labs			A night like forever
garry@alice.att.com		Sink like a stone
att!alice!garry			Float like a feather
From: joanne@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Joanne Petersen)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:10:00 GMT
Subject: Re: rubber stamps, postmark
Organization: Hewlett-Packard PAITC Data Center
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead

The date stamps actually have changeable dates -- I watched the person in
the P.O. change it one day when she accidentally stamped the wrong date
on my stamp (yes, I caught it!).  They use a pencil to push the numbers
(which are on a revolving something-or-other inside the stamp) to get the
right one(s).

I guess since you can't see the changing numbers (like you can on the 
metal datestampers available at the stationery store) it looks like the 
stamps are individually done.....
From: wuly@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead associated sports
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:12:34 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Hello folks-
	First thing I'd like to do is curse to hell the g*damned editor that
ate the last few lines of my previous post.
	More importantly (I guess), I was thinking about the Deadercise thread
that ran briefly a while back. Of the five most Dead associated sports that I
can think of, I play/do three of them. I rockclimb, mountain bike, and play
Ultimate frisbee. I don't hackey sack and I don't downhill ski. What other
sports/activities do you people normally associate with Deadheads (whatever
THEY are ;-)? Maybe skateboarding and maybe surfing, but I think they're
stretching it....
	zack falin

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From: "John A. Trucillo" <trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu>
Subject: mailing list
Reply-To: trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:12:30 GMT

Please enter me in your mailing list
My real name is John Trucillo
My address is TRUCILLO@ICARUS.MONTCLAIR.EDU
Thank You,
John
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From: "Edward B. Whittemore" <whitte@DPW.COM>
Subject: Hey Now, Shoreline Tix are in to the East Coast
Reply-To: whitte@DPW.COM
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:46:40 GMT

Hey All,

I just got my tix for my annual May Right-coast vacation for the shoreline
run, and I had a few questions for any kind californians, to maybe (you
know) help me out with a little information.

	  1)  do the Shoreline tix go on sale on April 12th, from BASS?

	       (I ask becuase I need one more lawn seat for each of the
	       three shows for my girlfriend, :*)


	  2) Does BASS have a phone number 1-800 or otherwise (i.e. 1-415-)
	       that I may access for phone oreders, and

	  3) lastly, should I have the tix sent to my friend (and hosts)'s
house in San Francisco rather than to New York City (my address).


Any help on thee topics would be very much appreciated.  I heard a good
portion of the New Vault Release on WNEW G. Dead Hour last night
Dark Star > St. Stephen > start of the Eleven)   with a
neat phone call interview with Bob Weir and Danno (sp?), the DJ. Turns out
our boy bobby is in D.C. now (or was last night), for some

			      (get ready....)

	       LOBBYING!   wow.  I can't believe it.  No seriously, he's
working with some representatives of Greenpeace trying to get the Montana
forest act of 1991 tied up in committe, until the election comes in the
Fall and effectively kills it for the year.

Now you know,


Ted W.

===========================================================================
Ted B. Whittemore  | none of the above opinions |  "Reach for the sun
whitte@dpw.com  or | are mine. I borrowed them  |   Catch hold of the
whitte@dpw.nyu.edu | from others. Sue them,     |          moon,
		   | not me.                    |  They're both too
 GO RANGERS!!!!!   |   and certainly not DPW!   |  heavy,
		   |                            |  But what can you Do?"
		   |                            |  R. Hunter & J. Garcia
===========================================================================
U.S. Mail address to send correspondence/tapes/etc... to:

Ted B. Whittemore, c/o Davis Polk & Wardwell, One Chase Manhattan
Plaza, New York, New York, 10005-1401.   (212) 874-0424  [home #]
===========================================================================
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From: tom@pictel.com (Tom Morrison)
Subject: Time to Relax....Trivia Time
Organization: Organization......we got no organization.......
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:44:36 GMT

Ok.... as I was coming in this morning, I was listening to a new
tape I just got....and heard some great Banter........so
the question to ALL of you is:


NAME THAT SHOW?  

Disclaimer:	Not EXACT wording, but pretty damm close
+++++++++++	++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I	At beginning of SET:

Uncle Bob:	 Sorry for the delay, but one of the band members had a
		 social engagement.....

the boys start playing immediately (and sound really pissed off!)


MORE HINTS????


II	Later on between songs:

Phil (or Bob?):  hey now...save those marshmellows for the hungry 
	  	 person next to you......

Bob: 		 damm...I Stepoed on a rose.....

		 You know it is really a bummer that when I look down 
		 while I am playing and see a bunch of crushed roses...

		 why don't you save throwing them to later on when
		 there will be less chance of us stepping them

		 (???also something about more appreciated???)

Jerry:		 Damm the roses....Save yourselves......



ANOTHER HINT?.....email me for it and I shall give you some more!




Good Luck

Tom Thumb
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From: LANDO <DBECHTOL@pearl.tufts.edu>
Subject: 8-25-72 tape grovel
Reply-To: DBECHTOL@pearl.tufts.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 20:13:06 GMT

Hi y'all. I am in search of a high quality complete copy of this tape on
DAT or analog. I think it is the coolest show ever. It was late in August and
the band was completely wasted and playing in Berkeley. They pull out
some killer versions of Cold Rain, Black Throated Wind, and He's gone. The 
entire show was less than 60 minutes long. My tape is cut and is ok SBD.
I have stuff to trade for the analog and am willing to send blanks for the
DAT. Thanks ,

LANDO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
I left st. louis, City of Blues
In the midst of a storm i'll never forget- Bobby
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: janderso@procyon.intel.com (Jim Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: And now...the rest of the story.
Date: 3 Apr 92 17:16:10 GMT
Reply-To: janderso@smdvx1.intel.com (jim "beam" anderson)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA


Bad news folks...

I was talking with a guy I know that is close to the Boys.  He told
me that a few of the rumors that have been floating around
are true, but  distorted.  This is what will be coming up.

The rumor/idea of having a "Deadland" venue, where the Dead
will play at one location is going to happen, however, not
as we would have expected.  The Dead will be moving
to Las Vegas and will become a regular Vegas act ala Wayne Newton!
This is supposed to happen sometime early next year.

I asked this guy, in disbelief, what had gotten into 
the Boys heads.  He told me that since most of them are
at or near 50 years old now, they felt it was time to 
put themselves "out to pasture".  But, since they 
still wanted to play, they would go down the well beaten
path that other "older" performers had by becoming a
lounge lizard act.  He wouldn't tell me which casino
they would be playing at, but did say that for
the first month they would be playing for free so that
the normal Las Vegas crowd might wonder into the show
and "get hooked".  

This is too weird for me.  I was wondering out loud
how the show may change.  The guy said that it wouldn't
change...much.

Most everything you are use to now will be the same.  Although
the band refuses to wear those strange reflective and/or
sequined suits so popular down there, the guy said
that Jerry and Bobby would wear a number of scarfs, which
they would wipe some sweat off of their faces with, then hand
them to people in the crowd.

The guy said that the lights would be run by a computer that is
running one of Candice's programs, but since the setlist would
be defined, and fixed for one week periods, she wouldn't have
to be at the shows to run the lights.  All she would have to 
do would be to send in a new program that fit the following weeks
set list, which would have been sent to her the week before.  

They are going to have setlists written down over two weeks
before the shows!!???!!?????!?!

Healy will be there for most of the shows, but his main function
will be to record the show which *will* be sold in the lobby
the next week (I don't know if all of the shows will be for sale, or
if they will pick the best of the week, since the shows will all be
the same.).

Since they will rarely, if ever, go on the road again, the road crew
has for the most part been given their walking papers. I guess a few
of the technicians will be kept to maintain the equipment.

I don't know about you folks, but I don't like this.  I don't
like it *ONE LITTLE BIT*!!!!  I'll be dammed if I'm going
to go down there and see these guys decay into oblivion.  Forget it.
I've got my tapes and a couple of videos.  As far as I'm concerned
The Grateful Dead is!



And have a happy April 1, 1992

Jim "Beam" Anderson

"Heaven help the fool!"
janderso@smdvx1.intel.com

"With out love in the dream it will never come true."
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 22:26:10 MST
From: <AGRGB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject:    Vegas mail order deadline?

Hey now,
  Whoopie for me...I think I can finally make it to another show. Could someone
tell me if the Vegas mailorder is over. How about the P.O. Box number? Sorry...
it didn't seem possible at the time.

                     Ramble on,  Rich
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Alan Sodoma <ajs@jloda.cci.com>
Subject: Re: Buffalo Tickets - Where can I find some?!?
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:48:43 GMT



In article <dhinst1.702926443@cunews> you write:
|Please help me out here, guys...
|I have been out of touch for a while, and didn't know there was a Rich
|Stadium show.  I would like to know from someone if it is too late to
|do mail-order, and if so, when do ticketmaster get their share to
|sell?
|
|Paul Weston

I believe the hotline said May 2 for the on-sale date at Ticketbastard.

Al Sodoma



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From: tomw@astro.umd.edu
Subject: jim tomlin 
Reply-To: tomw@astro.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:06:20 GMT

just got theq santana set, jim, thanx...lost your email addr, tho:-}
pls email me...
c u
tom wible, formerly the air drummer;-)

internet: tomw@astro.umd.edu
ip address: 128.8.251.57
From: srw@cci632.cci.com (Steve Windsor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Ugly Rumor-mongerers
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:54:30 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

>Think about your actions, people. They matter. Rumors are harmful
>to people. Real, feeling people, not cultural icons. And every damned
>rumor spreads just like this.
>
>We don't live in a vacuum. Careless actions can create chain-reactions
>of repercussions that end up hurting people we care about. If we
>*really* care, we take responsibility for what we do. If we *don't*
>really care, then we ain't worth one whole hell of a lot in my
>ever so humble opinion.

 those chain reactions seem to be a lot more involved than you may
 know.  Just the very act of typing that rumor in, much less sending
 it, starts a chain.  Where it goes noone knows.

 I care about the band because the band cares about me. not personally
 but true nonetheless.  negative actions rarely help (they could but
 usually not perceived that way); if you want to do something for
 jerry - first do something for yourself to make yourself happy and
 then think of him in that manner.  it's all up to you for the
 vibrations you send out, and hear me now and believe me later,
 they are heard.

 love stephen -- cause that's all there is.
From: barnes@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Joshua Edward Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: (trivial) Dead sighting
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:54:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr16.175408.7848
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

In article <kdvMD570Bwxf8Hf90m@transarc.com> Ward_Travis@TRANSARC.COM writes:
>
>In a little starbusrty-thing above the product name was the
>endorsement, "Stronger Than Dirt"
>

    Other way around.  Phil copped that phrase from an AJAX ad circa
1962.  This according to my copy of _The Dead Book_ by Hank Harrison,
a veritable font (as in fountain) of useless information...

					Cheerz,

						Josh Barnes

					barnes@zeno.ifa.hawaii.edu
From: fzcapit@MIZAR.UCDAVIS.EDU (John Capitanio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Allmans in Toronto?
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:29:12 GMT
Reply-To: fzcapit@MIZAR.UCDAVIS.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

Just got off the phone with folks in Wonderland.  Allmans and
Blues Traveler scheduled for 22 June 92.  Tix on sale 25 April
at Ticketmaster or through Wonderland Box Office (call 416-832-8131).
Concert costs $9.00, but you must buy admission to wonderland, which
is an amusement park.  Special package for $25.95 gives admission
to both.  Show is at 7PM, gates open 1 hour earlier.

John
fzcapit@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (yeP!)
Subject: Re: CHORD GROVEL (passenger)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:27:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.203734.12213@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> USER65EF@umichum.bitnet writes:
>hi u all...ive been listining to passenger a lot lately,
Well... you are psyched!  Because Passenger rocks!  Especially the
studio version, IMHO.  Why don't they do this tune anymore?  Vinne
could sing the high part!


>          "do you remember/one summer day/that same night/be on your way"

-jg -> yeP!
From: dlw@sdimax2.mitre.org (Weissman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Wharf Rat on Asbury Park
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:07:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr16.170721.23759
Organization: The Mitre Corp. Bedford, Mass.

Hey Wharf Rat -

I missed your post on Asbury Park too!  Can you please repost
it or send me a copy? (dlw@mitre.org)  I used to go there quite
a bit when I was younger and have great memories of the place.

Thanks
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