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From: jrohr@rasc.com (Jay J. Rohr)
Subject: HELP proplem with ISC remote access programs
Organization: Rohr Applied SYstems Corp., Sterling VA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:31:12 GMT

I need some help trying to resolve a remote access ( rsh, rcp, rlogin ) problem
I've been having with Interactive 3.0.1.  The configuration is a server runing
ISC 3.0.1 with multiple PC workstationsi (FTP PCTCP) and an ISC 2.2 workstation
on an ethernet LAN. 

The PROBLEM is that if resolv.conf is set up to use the nameserver, remote
access from the PCs and the ISC 2.2 workstation (rsh, rcp, rlogin, etc) is not
recognize as equivalent and the user is prompted for passwords or the command
fails with permission denied.  If resolv.conf is set up as nonameserver,
the remote commands work fine.

Before I get swamped with some of the obvious responses, let me give some
details and alternatives already tried.

   - other functions that access named work correctly (i.e ping, ftp, rlogins
     to internet sites)
   - resolv.conf has the domain specified correcty
   - resolv.conf has the name server address specified as an IP address.
   - hosts.equiv has had hosts specified as short names, full domain names, and
     both.
   - .rhosts has had hosts specified as short names, full domain names, and
      both.
   - .rhosts is owned by the correct user and is writable only by that user.

I've talked to SunSoft tech support 5 or 6 times in the last week and they sent
the question on the development staff. (who came back with the same items
listed above.)

WHAT AM I MISSING ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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From: wadswort@babss.UUCP (John H. Wadsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Motherboard recommendation ...
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:31:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <97866@netnews.upenn.edu> mani@linc.cis.upenn.edu writes:
> ......He wants to get a new mother board which will run BOTH UNIX
>AND OS/2 without any problems.  He has been considering an AMI 386-33
>motherboard.... 

I use Technology Power Enterprises motherboards. This is the retail 
arm of Northport, who makes the cache contollers used on AMI boards.
You certainly can't go wrong using an AMI board however you can get 
the same quality and save a few bucks going with a TPE board.
Xref: sparky comp.unix.sysv386:16563 comp.unix.questions:13531
From: kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Overflow warnings (SCO SV3.2)
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:49:54 GMT
Reply-To: kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith)
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: ShadeTree Software, Inc.

In article <BxnKJu.9DF@world.std.com> apl@world.std.com (Anthony P Lawrence) writes:
:>gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
:>: 
:>:cd /etc/conf/cf.d
:>:./configure
:>: 
:>:find NREGION and NFILE, and increase their size quite a bit.  I would recommend
:>:doubling them.  Then relink the kernel.  DO THIS IN SINGLE USER MODE!  Back the
:>:system up first.
:>
:>While this is certainly not bad advice, isn't backing up the system somewhat 
:>like cautioning the use of seatbelts while vacuuming the car?  All that's
:>really going to be affected is /unix.  I could see making a /unix.good, and
:>he certainly should have backups anyway, but this makes it all sound very
:>scary and system-threatening!
:>
:>What is the point of single user mode? Increasing these parameters doesn't
:>affect anything but the space in the new kernel, so how is it going to
:>cause any problems for the running system?
:>
:>Just wondering why we're being so cautious here.
:>

Relinking the kernal and installing the new unix automatically creates
/unix.old.  This is fine unless you screw up the kernel twice in a row
and have nothing to boot.  This is where the /unix.good can save the day.
I always create a /unix.good from a known, working, kernel.  It, however,
does not have to always be the latest one, just one that will boot.

Single user mode is important because 'ps' may not run with the new
kernel (without '-n /unix.old'), which may, in turn, cause shutdown to
hang or not shut everything down.  Many applications (ingres...) use
ps to find their daemons and servers and so may not terminate properly.
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From: sam@csi.compuserve.com (Sam Neely)
Subject: Re: Names no longer being seen (gethostbyname stops) with ISC 2.2.1
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:26:27 GMT

In article <JTSILLA.92Nov15221020@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu> jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (James Tsillas) writes:
>
>I'm not sure when this started happenning but recently I installed the
>Basic Networking package and configured sendmail. Besides this there
>have been no changes. Since I am not hooked up to a network I noticed it
>after some time had passed.
>
>Has anyone seen this on their system? I'm running ISC 2.2.1 with TCP/IP
>1.2 on a 386 AT.

First of all, run, do not walk, to your telephone and order the upgrade
to TCP/IP 1.3.  The 1.2 version is so buggy that even the Orkin man
gave up on it.  (For example, pinging another machine can cause your
machine to crash.)

Now that I've got that off my chest...  My guess is that you changed
your nameserver information when you updated sendmail.  Check out
what you've got in /etc/resolv.conf.  If that looks kosher, make
sure you've got a route to the nameserver(s) with netstat -nr.

	- Sam
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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: 386 Unix - is 5,000 logins realistic?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:12:54 GMT

todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman) writes:


>Is it realistic to support about 5,000 logins with a 386 Unix?
>There will be no more than 32 logins active at any time, but what
>about the time it takes to look up the password during login?

Passwd search times will make logging in slow.  5000 users in 1 group may make
/etc/group unuseable, because they all have to be on one line.  You may be able
to fix that with "\"'s at the end of every x number of users.

You will also have directory search problems if all their home directories
reside in the same place.  You can changes this and keep different parent
directories based on their names or something.  It will probably be best to sub
divide them further.

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From: wadswort@babss.UUCP (John H. Wadsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 on ISC 3.0?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:58:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <3820@creatures.cs.vt.edu> alanlb@csgrad.cs.vt.edu writes:
>Hi there!  I have ISC 3.0 with the FD_S3.0 patch diskette running
>on a non-DTK (the real name escapes me, Cirrus maybe?) 486 motherboard
>with an Adaptec 1542B.  I have hooked up an Exabyte EXB-8500 to it and
>have configured HPDD to recognize it as a generic SCSI tape drive.
>However, I seem to missing a step or two because /dev/tape is still
>unrecognized.
>Are there any special hardware/software configuration steps that I
>have to perform?  Is my ISC version OK, or do I have to upgrade?

I believe you have everything you need. As I remeber the /dev/tape
doesn't appear anymore unless you make/link/copy  it. Here's a list
from my /dev :
> ls -alR |grep 36
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       36, 64 Jun  2 14:08 nrmt0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       36, 64 Jun  2 14:08 nrmt0t4
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       36, 64 Jun  2 14:08 ntape
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       36, 72 Jun  2 14:08 rmt0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       36, 72 Jun  2 14:08 rmt0t4
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       36, 72 Jun  2 14:08 tape


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.bsd,comp.windows.x
From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: I need 8514/ATI Graphics Ultra support for ISC UNIX SVR3.2 & X11R4
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:32:15 GMT

In article <PATRY.92Nov16102428@jy.Software.Mitel.COM> patry@Software.Mitel.COM (Jean-Yves Patry) writes:
>
>We are using the Metrolink X11R4 software with Motif 1.1.3 on ISC 3.0.
>They support the ATI ultra very well. For information call
>
>(305) 970-7353
>
>They also have X11R5 with Motif 1.1.4 available.
>
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It is trivial to port XBSD8514 to ISC.
XBSD8514 is known to work with the ATI Ultra and has been clocked
at 60k xstones.

XBSD8514 and XS3 are known to work with twm, motif and openlook.
The 8514 server was ported from Linux to 386bsd and the XS3 server 
have been ported to Linux just as a prove of portability.

If you like you can ask me further questions...

Amancio Hasty






Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: feature?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:09:12 GMT

sam@wa4phy (Sam Drinkard) writes:


>Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I just noticed something.. when I do an 
>"rm -rf *" from, say ~nuucp, or /tmp, how come it changes the permissions
>of that directory afterwards.  Does it remove the directory too, then
>re-create it?

>inquiring minds would like to know..

You could check the inode number before and after.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer)
Subject: Equivalent of US4BINR for R3?
Organization: QRM Central
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:57:14 GMT

This question is probably either in the FAQ or been asked
before.  Is there an equivalent of the US4BINR server for
those of us still using Release 3?

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From: rob@stallion.oz.au (Rob Dunn)
Subject: ftp sites for UNIX FAQ's
Organization: Stallion Technologies
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:54:09 GMT
Summary: FTP sites for UNIX faq's
Keywords: FAQ, FTP

Where are FAQ's available for UNIX related subjects please ?

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: sam@wa4phy (Sam Drinkard)
Subject: Re: AT&T 386 UNIX Tape Drive?
Organization: Unix Business Solutions
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:47:24 GMT

k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer) writes:

>I'm looking for some information about the 125 Meg tape drive
>kit that AT&T sells for its 386 UNIX boxes.  The drive says
>Wangtek 5125EN and the controller board says Wangtek 30850-412.

According to my reference from Wangtek, the 30850-XXX IS the PC-36 III 
controller.  Believe that is the latest version, and its what I use with
the 5099EK drive, and under ISC 3.0 (1) Hope that helps.. 

>I've heard of the 5125EN but not about this controller board.
>The manual pages talk about a PC36 board(?) that I'm also
>unfamiliar with.  I'm wondering if these were directly OEM'ed
>or if AT&T had them make some subtle changes.  

>Anybody know the untold story?
>Inquiring minds want to know.  :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: uugetty on SCO Unix 2.2.0
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:29:18 GMT

lsack@ccs.northeastern.edu (Leeann G Sack) writes:
>
>This is is question on an old version of SCO Unix, i.e. version 2.2.0.
>Does anyone know if uugetty works?
>
>The following entry in initttab does not produce a login on the line:
>
>	/usr/lib/uucp/uugetty -t 60 -r tty2H p
>
>Running "uugetty -c" on this entry shows an error located at the '-' of
>the '-t' parameter.
>

You're running 'uugetty -c' on the *inittab* file?  Aren't you supposed
to run it on the gettydefs file?

The inittab entry you show (above) looks a lot like the one uuinstall
will create for you.  The space between the -t option and the 60 is
perfectly fine.

About the only thing that puzzles me is the -r option.  This appears to
be a modem port (uppercase H in the port name).  Why do you need the -r
option on a modem port?  Won't your modem keep the carrier signal (DCD)
off until someone calls in?

There is a quirk to 3.2.2's uugetty, though.  The speed codes in the
gettydefs entry can't be EXTA (for 19200 bps) or EXTB (for 38400 bps).
They must read B19200 or B38400.  Check your 'p' entry in gettydefs
and change the speed codes (there are two) if they're EXTA or EXTB.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.questions
From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Re: How does a mortal become a UNIX WIZARD ?
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:08:42 GMT


A previous poster suggested randomly deleting files and directories and
then figuring out what you needed to do to get things back up and running
again.  I have done this before, with the best intentions, of course, but I
am still not a wizzard.  I just know not to delete those files.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura)
Subject: Re: 386 Unix - is 5,000 logins realistic?
Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:13:29 GMT

In <BxznqD.MIo@chinet.chi.il.us> ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us (Dave Ihnat) writes:

>Possibly; although on BSD, Sun, or SVR4 systems the hashed directory structure
>will mitigate this problem greatly.

Uhm, what "hashed directory structure"?


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: sprajapa@sol.ulowell.edu (Sunil )
Subject: Source Code for BSD UNIX needed
Organization: UMass-Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:31:12 GMT

Hi
I need to know whether I can get UNIX BSD source code and if so, from where.

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: larryp@sco.COM (Larry Philps)
Subject: Re: Script adding SCO users? Useshell?
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:12:24 GMT

In <259@mnopltd.UUCP> neal@mnopltd.UUCP writes:

> If you had LOTS of users from a previous incarnation of unix, you might
> tire of using sysadmsh to add them.  Is there a plausible way of getting
> around it?
> 
> Sysadmsh calls /tcb/lib/useshell to add;
> 	useshell -c -- sh nealtest 50 /usr/nealtest 700 600 600
> 
> The 50 is a group id, I don't know what the other numbers are...  Ergo, 
> I don't know how to call this myself.
> 
> Also, sysadmsh does some processing afterwards relating to passwords. 

Check out the addxusers(ADM) command (it lives in /tcb/bin).  There is
a man page, and it should solve your problem.

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From: peter@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Peter J Diaz de Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: How to determing the size of you swap space?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:50:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.9.13

When installing Unix, how does one determine the
size of the swap space?  Also is it possible to
figure out once you have allocated swap space
how much of it is being used?


-Peter
(peter@miller.cs.uwm.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman)
Subject: 386 Unix - is 5,000 logins realistic?
Organization: Software Toolz, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:13:23 GMT


Is it realistic to support about 5,000 logins with a 386 Unix?
There will be no more than 32 logins active at any time, but what
about the time it takes to look up the password during login?

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From: sam@wa4phy (Sam Drinkard)
Subject: Re: What's happening to ISC UNIX?
Organization: Diversified Computer Services
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:09:08 GMT


Not to mention the fact the the interrupt handlers as used with a wd8003
ethernet card limits the thruput to about 45 +/- kb, and the nameserver
is an absolute joke...but this is NOT BSD :-(  Yes, the menuing system 
is OK, but after dorking around with files so much, I've gotten where I
can do what I need to do without most of it.  Only nice part is the 
install package part.  I'm very seriously thinking about switching to
BSD386, but just hate to start from scratch all over.

my wooden nickel's worth..

sam

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From: Paul N. Prokopenko  <pasha@glas.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:18 MDT
Subject: Telnet problem (ISC 3.0, TCP 1.3)
Nf-ID: #N:glas:10200008:000:555
Nf-From: glas.UUCP!pasha    Nov 17 13:18:00 1992


Hi, Netters!

Using TCP/IP 1.3 for ISC 3.0 I have the problem with telnet.

At the time as rlogin/rcp/rsh work well, when I try to telnet I see the
following: 

glas-369>telnet glas2
Trying...
Connected to glas2.igc.org.
Escape character is '^]'.


System V UNIX (glas2)

Connection closed by foreign host.
glas-370>

Interesting that telnet works under emac's shell!

Any comments? Anyone had the same problem?
Also, I'd like to get source for ISC's /etc/netlogin. Is it possible?

Thankx.

------
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From: anderl@kommu.UUCP (Hr Horst Anderl)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Connecting SCO-ODT to DEC-NET, which product?
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:59:15 GMT
Organization: SNC
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Hallo
I am looking for software to connect SCO-ODT to DEC-NET.
Thanks in advance
Horst

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From: matt@bacchus.esa.OZ.AU (Matthew Atterbury)
Subject: Re: Arg list too long
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 07:59:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.133054.15413@litwin.com> hoang1@litwin.com (Ted Hoang) writes:

> 
> Hi,
> I have the problem when running my make program.
> I get this error message:
> "Arg list too long"
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Ted Hoang
> Email:hoang1@litwin.dynsim1.com
> 
> 

    Despite the fact that you have supplied virtually ZERO information
    to help decode what your problem is (ie. _next_ time , tell us
    what machine, O/S, version, networking stuff, _exactly_ what the
    set up was and what you were trying to do, etc, etc, etc) ....

    My immediate guess is that you're doing a make in an NFS mounted
    directory. The NFS server is having problems supplying make with
    the file contents and for some strange reason the open/read/whatever
    is returning the error code for "Arg list too long". We get this
    heaps of times from our Apollo Domain/OS NFS server and the only
    real solution is to kill nfsd and restart it on the Apollo. The
    problem is intermittent but as soon as you get this you know
    you're going to have to restart it soon.

    cheers ...
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