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From: metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Michigan 86  -  Kansas 74
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:24:24 GMT
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In article <1992Dec31.083919.1076@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:
|> It is approx. 3:30am EST
|> 
|> The Michigan Wolverines just won their third game in three nights
|> Nebraska (formerly #17),
|> North Carolina (formerly #5), and
|> Kansas (formerly #2)
|> 
|> In the first half both teams looked tired. Michigan had been up
|> by 8 on two occassions, but then they were missing free throws and
|> started taking poor shots which allowed the Jayhawks to stay close
|> and it was UM 36 - Kansas 34 at the half
|> 
|> In the second half, Chris Webber (UM) single-handedly took over the
|> game. He just dominated the boards and on the defensive end forced
|> Kansas to stay outside. On the offensive end, UM went to Webber, Riley
|> and Howard with no resistance from Kansas
|> 
|> Michigan had a 12 point lead on several occassions, Kansas got no
|> closer than 5 and the Michigan 5Xz closed it out 86 - 74
|> 
|> Chris Webber was named tourney MVP
|> 
|> After this tourney performance Michigan should move up to #2, we will see
|> next up ... Jan 2 Eastern Michigan
|> 

I doubt that Michigan will move up to #2.  More likely, they'll move up
to #3, and UK will move up to #2.

I have seen every game UM has played this year, and I have to say that
this was the most complete performance they've had yet.  What I saw in
the games against Detroit Mercy and Bowling Green really scared me; but
on the other hand, to play three games in three days against three top
20 teams -- tougher opposition each time -- and win them all tells me
that maybe, just maybe, their focus has improved a lot.  They didn't
hot-dog in the Kansas game; they didn't try to force plays that would
make the highlights tapes.  They just concentrated on playing bball.
The Detroit paper reports that in six days there, Webber never went
to the beach (less than 30 yards from their hotel).  Rose has been
talking about some sessions with Fisher and Perry Watson recently
directed towards improving their attitude.  Maybe they're coming
around.


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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Michigan State defeats Cougars 77-61
Originator: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 01:15:21 GMT


Mike Peplowski dominated from the opening tip-off as Michigan State defeated
the Cougars 77-61 in the championship game of the Spartan Classic in East
Lansing on Wednesday night.  Peplowski, who finished with 24, turned in one
of the best performances by a big man that I have ever seen.  He must have
taken 8 or 10 sky hooks, and he hit *every* one... he didn't miss any, and
these were true *sky* hooks, not jump hooks, and many of them were from the
10-12 foot range.  He was shooting 71% from the floor for the season, and he
*improved* that in this game.  Shawn Respert was also very impressive for 
MSU, scoring 20, including a perfect night at the free throw line.  Tony 
Harris had 17 first half points for the Cougars, and Eddie Hill, who
made the all-tournament team, had 10 before the intermission.  The two scored
all but 3 of WSU's 30 first half points.  Overall, the Cougars did not shoot
nearly as well as the previous night, especially from the 3-pt line and the
free throw line, but the real problem was their inability to defend against
the inside game of MSU.  They employed a match-up zone for much of the second
half which was effective at times, but they were simply out-manned inside.
MSU also benefited from a great night at the charity stripe, after coming into
the contest at 61%.  Overall, the Cougars did not play that badly, especially
considering the caliber of the opponent (ranked 17th) and the setting.  This 
game will serve as excellent preparation for the upcoming PAC-10 season.

The Cougs' starting five            The three stars of the game
------------------------            ---------------------------
Bennie Seltzer                      1. Mike Peplowski
Eddie Hill                          2. Shawn Respert
Tony Harris                         3. Tony Harris
Mark Hendrickson
Rob Corkrum

Next up 
-------
The Cougs will entertain Sacramento State on Monday night in Pullman for 
their final non-conference game of the season.  This game will mark the
return of former WSU assistant coach Don Newman, now head coach of the
Hornets. 


Jim
r.s.bk.c contact for the Washington State Cougars 
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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Cougars defeat Princeton 72-49
Originator: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 01:10:12 GMT

Eddie Hill continued to have the hot hand, leading all scorers with 22, as
Washington State thumped Princeton 72-49 in the opening round of the Spartan
Classic in East Lansing on Tuesday night.  Hill, who scored 17 of his game-
high total in the first half, was a perfect 6-6 from the 3-point line.  His
hot shooting seemed to carry over to the rest of the team, as the Cougs shot
an incredible 12-16 from 3-point land and 61% from the floor overall.  This,
along with an effective press that harrassed Princeton all night, helped the
Cougars get the game into the 70's, an impressive total against the Tigers.

Jim
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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: U of MN. Schedule
Date: 23 Dec 1992 16:58:58 GMT
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Hi,

 Would anyone happen to have the U of Minnesota 
schedule ? Also, how are Clem and the boy's expected 
to do this year ? ANy hope of getting the B10 championship ?

Thanks

-Tom
Go Gophs....

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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Dean Smith (Re: UNC TARHEELS--1992/93 NCAA BSKTBLL. CHAMPS)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:42:47 GMT

Steve Williams:

Has anyone ever called you Dr. Death?

> Well, after UNC's recent loss to Michigan, it looks like UNC and Dean
> Smith need to do something if they're going to beat teams in the likes
> of Michigan in order to advance to the Final Four championship game 
> this year.  If UNC doesn't improve, UNC likely is going to be upset 
> by any team during the NCAA playoffs.

It's one game out of the season. It really came down to "luck of the
draw." Michigan was the luckier team last night.....just ask Steve Fisher.
He said so himself. He also said that luck or no luck, they put themselves
in the position to win, so that does speak for itself. I mention that
because I don't want people to think I'm trashing Michigan's victory, and
because I agree 100%.

> And as for UNC's now-established reputation of slow starts.... UNC can
> get away with this in games against weaker opponents, but certainly 
> not against teams like Michigan.  Why hasn't Dean Smith been able to 
> solve this "slow start" problem?

My opinion says this; he is too conservative. I can't begin to say what
goes on in the locker room before a game, but I get the impression that
he's not the master motivator that Coach K is. This may sound completely
stupid, but Dean shows up in Hawaii wearing a freaking suit and tie. Come
on man, lighten up a little. Does this type of thing rub off on the kids?
I don't know, but they seem to lack the intensity and motivation a lot of
teams possess in BIG games.

> I am not saying that Dean Smith is a bad coach; in fact, I will always 
> say that Dean Smith is a great coach and an excellent teacher in the 
> fundamentals of basketball, and that his players are well-coached for 
> their roles.

Right. He has had the talent that's for sure, but he does teach good
fundamentals, and trys to downplay winning. I think a guy like Grant Hill
or Chris Webber would be really held back at UNC. He seems to keep players
from reaching their maximum potential.

> In my opinion, Dean Smith's skills as the bench coach (in games) is 
> questionable at times.  He seems unable to adjust or compensate for 
> whatever that develops during the game.  At times, his players are
> looking for leadership on the court and finding none (another fault 
> of Dean Smith's seniority thing). 

I tend to agree with this, but it is still early, so who knows what will
happen. For years I've been saying that his techniques have not kept up
with the times. Building the Dean Dome (IMHO) was another blow to the program.

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From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
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Subject: Cal - Wake Forest score?
Date: 24 Dec 1992 02:51:40 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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Can someone send me or post the score for the Cal-Wake Forest
game last night?  I'm in Colorado for the holidays, and apparently
the Rocky wasn't patient enough to wait for the score from the #25
team in the nation before going to press....

Thanks


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From: ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: NCAA: List needed
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:07:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department



         Does anyone out there have a list of the NCAA Div.1 baketball teams?
                             ''                        Div.2 teams?
                             ''                        Div.3 teams?
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From: russ@pmafire.inel.gov (Russ Brown)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 16:08:55 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: Michigan 79  -  North Carolina 78
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

This game was not broadcast in Idaho.  We were treated to the Bismuth
Bowl or some other metallic football contest.  If anyone knows if it
will be rebroadcasted later, please let me know.

Thanks.

russ
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC TARHEELS--1992/93 NCAA BSKTBLL. CHAMPS
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:46:35 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


	Just a quick note of appreciation to the originator of this thread for
demonstrating so dramatically how swift and sure can be the retribution of the
Woofing Gods, and how infallible and truly insightful into the truth of the 
Universe is Oliver's Woofing Theorem.

--
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Dept. of Mathematics            
Tufts University              			The Conversation  
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From: rga@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Rainbow Classic on TV ?
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:38:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.025419.5437@netcom.com> foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec22.152331.12099@rti.rti.org> rga@rti.rti.org writes:
>>>Can anyone tell me if the Rainbow Classic is on TV anywhere
>>>in the USA ? Here in N.C. unbelievably,
>>So far, I've found out that Prime Network has the rights
>>to the tournament.  Their Ann Arbor affiliate is PASS -
>>which means you have to get PASS to watch the games.
>>As far as I know, there's no pay-per-view.
>> 
>The only games anyone (other than those lucky enough to be in
>Hawaii at the time sitting in the bleachers) will see anywhere,
>according to my satellite guide, will be the two semi-final
>and the final game. These will be shown on SPTS and PTN on
>Tuesday and Wednesday of next week.
>

Ok, for the satellite impaired, what do I say to the guy with
the dish, 'Do you get SPTS or PTN ?' or do I need to know the
particular transponder or satellite ?

What do SPTS and PTN stand for ?

Thanks a lot,
Randy

p.s. Whew, did you see the Heels in the second half against Ohio St. ?


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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: FSU - Andre Reid
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 01:15:11 GMT

In article <8308@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>[blank space deleted]
>Well said! The only  question is, was this an evaluation of his season to
>date, or his future potential?
>:-)
>	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
>"I've been your dog ever since I've been your man."--Son House

My guess...BOTH!!! :)

Kevin

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From: kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: What is RPI?
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:23:12 GMT

   My guess is that it stands for Real Plastered Insight or Rotten Picks
   Insured,either way,what are they putting in the drinking water in Arizona?
   I don't know where to begin Flamming those rankings,try doing something
   constructive with them,like putting them in Bobby Hurley's jock,maybe
   they'll slow him down.

                                              
                                           B.C.K.
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: What the hell is a Hoya?
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:30:50 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

What is a Hoya?  The best I can describe is that a hoya always plays 
weaker opponents just for the sole of making itself look better.  If
possible, it doesn't schedule games with Top 25 or even Top 50
non-conference opponents. It relishes on playing Division II and III 
opponents, especially in December, and makes all kinds of excuses for
playing such teams.

Hence, Georgetown best fits the description of a hoya, and thus is
called the Hoyas.
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From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Subject: San Juan Shootout
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:57:22 GMT


Iowa crushed E. Michigan by 37. Southern Illinois beat Mississippi St 76 -64.
Southern and Iowa play for the championship today.

Go Salukis!
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From: harveyc@seq.uncwil.edu (harveyc chet x)
Subject: Re: More Duke anti-woofing?
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:46:46 GMT

 Duke's a good team, a great team; but no way will they beat Carolina
 by 35+points. You must be sitting a little to high over in Cameron.
 Take Carolina and any other team in the country (both have good games)
 and UNC will come out on top. Dean knows how to win, his record proves
 that, and with STACHOUSE coming in next year the tradition will  
 continue. Yet another 20+ games won, ain't it great. 8-) 
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From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: Ohio State score request - again
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: rec
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:49:04


Well, once again the Ohio State - Oregon game was too late for the folks at
USA Today.  If anyone has the score and/or a brief description of the game,
I'd appreciate it.

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From: grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy)
Subject: Wake Forest forfeits to Rhode Island (NCAA)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:15:32 GMT

I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, but Wake Forest has been forced to
forfeit a game played earlier this year when they beat Rhode Island.
Apparently, WFU played an ineligible player.  NCAA rules state that when
a player would become eligible at the end of a semester, the player
becomes eligible the day after the last exam.  WFU played a player the
night on the same day of the last exam, a few hours before he would be
eligible.

The point that interested me was a comment in the article that some NCAA
rule (32.10.5 I think, I left the article at home) states that when the
NCAA requires a forfeit, records and statistics for the game(s) in
question are not altered.  But when the NCAA required Clemson to forfeit
two NCAA tournament games from 1990 for playing an ineligible player, the
question arose as to what the final record should be (was 26-9, but
was said to be changed to 24-11, or even 24-9 [vacating the games]).

Of course, Clemson's always been a pioneer in NCAA rules
enforcement...maybe we get "special" treatment...
 
Clemson news:  Clemson won its first road game since traveling to
Western Carolina last Jan. 29th for a victory (you have to go back to
Feb. 21 1990 when Clemson beat Wake Forest for the previous road win --
no road wins in 90-91).  Clemson defeated Furman on the road Thursday
night and the Citadel in Littlejohn Saturday.  The Tiger's take on
Davidson tonight, then go to Charlotte to play App. State in the ACC-SC
double header (and Wake Forest will play Davidson), come home for Mercer
and Furman before starting the ACC season with games at Duke and at
Virginia.  Currently at 5-0, Clemson should be 9-0 when the ACC season
starts. 

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Info. Sys. Development | mspercy@clemson.BITNET      | is really...bossy.
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Ohio St Greatest -- Results
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:12:18 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

kwz26@cas.org writes:
>Jeff Davis writes:
>> kwz26@cas.org writes:
>> >Michael Doel writes:
>> >
>> >I guess you could kick off Havelicek.
>> 
>> Noooooooboddddyyy expects the Spanish Inquisition. You are charged with
>> the heinous sin of heresy...
>
>Maybe I can be sentenced to the comfy chair?
>
>Well "kick off" was a stronger term then needed.  I only wanted to relegate
>him to the 2nd tier of a fairly strong list of hoopsters.  I still feel that
>he was a better pro then a collegian, but I will defer to your memories as you
>were undoubtedly older them myself during the Golden Age of tOSU Basketball 
>and hence must have more vivid recollections. 

Well, for one thing. Havilcek the collegian was exactly like Havilcek
the pro: relentless, tireless, and devious.

As for my memories, yes. I am old enough to despise Cincinatti for
beating OSU two years in a row. Lucas, Havilcek, and Siegfried were
my 3 earliest sports heroes. 

Hondo, it should be noted, was also drafted by the Cleveland Browns as a 
tight end. And played extremely well in their training camp.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> One never knows, do one?
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UNC-OSU Game (Re: Tarheels--outside shooting?)
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:18:40 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, MGN102@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Tarheels just beat Ohio State 84-64.  Valvano commented that the Heels 
>need outside shooting. I think Williams will provide that, what do 
>you guys/gals think?

This was the first time I got to watch UNC play on TV this season.
I saw the typical UNC start; that is, UNC came out with some cylinders 
misfiring and UNC spent all of the first half catching up with OSU.  
UNC certainly didn't look like a #5 team in the first half with too 
many turnovers, missed shots, and silly fouls.  I didn't see any point
guard controlling the UNC offense -  several players seemed to alternate
at this role.  Also, OSU was able to penetrate UNC's defense easily in
the first half.

UNC finally started playing like a #5 team in the second half (UNC was 
a few points behind at halftime and won by 20 points).  Montross was 
the BIG player for UNC.

I'm afraid that UNC has some other problems beside its outside shooting.
Most important of all, UNC's lack of real point guard may prove to be 
UNC's Achilles' heel this season.  Also, UNC needs to start playing 
full 40 minutes of solid basketball in each game if UNC is going to 
stay in the Top 5.

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