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From: billaud@greco-prog.fr (Michel BILLAUD)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Writing Linux disks on Sun
Keywords: sun
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:44:56 GMT
Reply-To: billaud@geocub.UUCP (Michel BILLAUD)
Organization: LaBRI - Universite Bordeaux I - France

In article <1ath5eINNkmi@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:

>What I do on our suns, is to ftp the files down, and then use mtools to 
>write them to floppy. I don't remember if you need root permission to run
>mtools,

no, you don't need that.

MB



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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: riepe@ifwhp1.ifw.uni-hannover.de (Michael Riepe)
Subject: SLS 0.98 odd/unexpected behaviour
Organization: University of Hannover, Germany - IFW
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:44:34 GMT

I just upgraded to SLS 0.98 and discovered some minor oddities:

1)	ps no longer displays command lines, just the process name in ()

2)	mount needs -t msdos for DOS disks. Otherwise, I get an error message
	like "/dev/fd1 already mounted or /user busy"

3)	Although its now possible to boot from /dev/fd0 and then install
	from /dev/fd1, installation from the menu only works with /dev/fd0

The following items also apply to SLS 0.96:

4)	adduser seems to swap the user and group ids, and it will prompt for
	a group repeatedly if I specify non-root privileges

5)	During installation, I always get error messages like
	"fd1: floppy is write protected". In fact, the floppies *ARE* write
	protected, but this message is rather boring

Any solutions, anybody ?

Anyway, I like the SLS edition very much 'cause I don't have enough time left
to grab and install all the stuff I need.

BTW another point I'd like to mention is international keyboard support. Each time I upgrade the kernel, I have do rebuild it to get my german keyboard back. I just can't ftp me a new "vanilla" kernel - I have to grab the sources and/or patches and recompile. Isn't there a better way to support international keyboard layouts (even ol' brain-dead MeSsyDOS does it better :-() ? Maybe one could load the translation tables from a file ?
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 Universit"at Hannover
 Institut f"ur Fertigungstechnik und Spanende Werkzeugmaschinen
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: At last: the media woke up
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:29:09 GMT

Linux received mention in the October issues of UnixWorld and Unix Review.
(Just about a line in each)

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org
From: bywater_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux..
Date: 12 Oct 1992 19:58:32 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: bywater_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Having just set-up the basic floppy of Linux, I am very impressed.  However,
I do have some questions..

(a) How much disk space do all the partitions generally need for the basics 
(very basic in fact)
(b) Is it possible to run remote users with Linux (eg across a null modem
cable)?
(c) I see it is using EGAc mode - Is it possible to get it to use VGA mode?

That's all the questions so far..I'll no doubt have more as time passes..But
very good...

Cheers.
From: mfg@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Gordon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need a sed binary
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:20:32 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Does anyone know where I can grab a sed binary by FTP?  I've only
been able to find the sources.  A couple of the gcc installation
scripts use sed, but I managed to get around that and have gcc
up and running.  I've got a copy of the sources for GNU sed 1.09,
but the configure script needs a sed binary to run.

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From: geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: seahaven towers
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:30:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YeqMjwe00WAJAJhTJ1
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Who originally ported seahaven towers?  I am trying to rebuild it for
Xfree86 so I can junk my old shared libs.  I figured out to remove the
functional casts like Card(from), since from IS a Card, but there is a
problem with opening a file in function Auto.  What do I need to do to
fix this?

                                  -Brian

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson)
Subject: Changing SVGA mode at runtime?
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:35:20 GMT

Is it possible to change the SVGA mode at runtime (via a command or
something)? Or is that a hack-project yet to be done?

/Peter

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From: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux BBS and FTP Site Li
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 

ZHHC:>FORMAT:
ZHHC:>State   YYY  BBS Name                Phone Number    Modem Speed
ZHHC:>Rating       City                    Other data

ZHHC:>RATING SYSTEM:  1 -- Only enough the most basic of files
ZHHC:>                2 -- The basic's and a little more
ZHHC:>                3 -- So, so
ZHHC:>                4 -- A respectable amount
ZHHC:>                5 -- Pretty much everything you need

ZHHC:>ADDITIONAL INFO:

ZHHC:>     YYY -- Either a Yes/No/? answer to the question
ZHHC:>     |||
ZHHC:>     ||Free access to Linux files
ZHHC:>     |Allow file requests (FidoNet)
ZHHC:>     First time D/L of Linux related files


ZHHC:>UNITED STATES:

ZHHC:>??      Digital Underground     812-941-9427 14.4k
ZHHC:>  ?             Linux/386BSD


This is my system.  A few more notes for you.

Area:  Southern Indiana
Speed: v32bis (14.4k)
Space: 1.4gig

I do get a usenet feed, site name is digund.uucp ..

I do not request a fee.  However I do accept donations!

I try and update my linux files about 3 times a week or more.  386BSD is
a different matter (Bout to scrap the area)

I DO NOT allow first time downloads.  Just a matter of personal preference.

As far as RATING system.  I would say 5 -- .. And still growing.  I have
a lot of the GNU code and others on here also,
(complete X11R5 distribution for instance).

Thanks for letting me put my $0.02 in!

Chris Nalley / Operator / Digital Underground / digund.uucp
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: [Q] X11 Icon Manager: How do I display it by default?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:16:11 GMT

In article <SCHLI.92Oct7154729@cachalot.cs.tu-berlin.de> schli@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schlickenrieder) writes:
>
>	Hi...
>
>	Does anyone out there know, how I convince X to display the
>	Icon Manager without me clicking the "Display Icon Manager"
>	field in the menu? 
>
>	Any help is much apprechiated...
>
>	...Wolfram


Write the line 

	ShowIconManager


in your .twmrc file.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
Subject: Re: Is there a 'lpr' type command for linux?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:53:35 GMT

I have ported plp (a free lpr clone) to linux.  It is currently in the
ALPHA directory, but I haven't gotten any feedback from any users to tell
me if they like it or not.  (I think my mailer may be having problems, but
that is another story).  It is in:

   pup/OS/Linux/testing/beta/PLP

and is source-code only.  It should compile as-is for domain sockets.  If
you have TCP running, I would really like to hear if it works when compiled
for inet sockets.

Corey
minyard@wf-rch.cirr.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: phanson@well.sf.ca.us (Pete Hanson)
Subject: Linux and large systems
Reply-To: phanson@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The WELL
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:37:08 GMT


Hi, all...

An associate of mine is attempting to put together a 486 system that
will be used to support a fairly large community of medical
practitioners.  He is hoping to use Linux as the base operating system,
and has asked me to look into some technical matters for him.  Some of
these questions may or may not be appropriate for this newsgroup, so
pointers to more approp- riate newsgroups will be appreciated.

Anyway, he would like to have a system that supports in the
neighborhood of 50-60 users per machine, most connecting to the host
via dialup ports.  The first obvious question is how many simultaneous
users is Linux capable of supporting?  Does anyone know of any
multi-serial port cards capable of handling that many connections at
the same time?

He is also looking for this enterprise to be set up as an almost
exclusively telecom-run type of deal, including programmers, support
personnel, *and* the system administrator checking in via telecom.
(Yes, he is aware of the potential security problems here.)  It's this
last item that is of concern.  I've seen a number of hardware/software
packages in the IBM mainframe (Yuch!) world that allow the system
administrators/operators run the system console (including booting)
entirely from a remote console.  Since I'm fairly new to the UNIX
world, I haven't seen anything like this yet, though I imagine
something of the sort must exist to support networked systems run from
a central location.  Is anybody aware of such a package that can be
used to run a 486-based UNIX system (particularly under Linux)?  This
would have to provide access to the system console in both single and
multi-user modes.

Thanks in advance for any information or pointers anyone has.

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                             phanson@well.sf.ca.us
                             =====================
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: umisef@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Bernd Meyer)
Subject: Re: Handy debugging feature request
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:00:13 GMT

jem@SunSite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:

>I thought the need for trace was the use of binary only distributions
>in the commercial world...  Except for the cool hack value (and i admit
>that writing such a thing would be nifty) what is the usefulness in
>Linux where everything has source code available and can be debugged
>with a source level debugger (gdb)?

Well, there are people who do not like to put bunches of debugging printouts
into code, recompile, watch it doing something strange that only assures
them they put the messages in the wrong places, go through all of it again,
and again, and then, when finally they have found the bug, remove all those
handy messages again (probably introducing new bugs by killing non debugging
lines).

A debugging tool not only has to show you what system calls are in the code,
but also which system call actually take place - which often may be sur-
prising. And you can (as I understand) run the programm normally and edirect
the debugging information to a file. Look at it later (or even: grep something).

gdb maybe nice, but singlestepping through thousands of lines of code is
annoying, and waiting for a core to be dumped sometimes is useless (I had
this problem recently - some fatal error, but no core).

So I'd love to see such a tool!

Bernie

umisef@mcshh.hanse.de

>jem.

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From: farrow@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (J. Scott Farrow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: Xtrek ported for Linux
Keywords: xtrek
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:34:07 GMT
Distribution: cu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

genie@netcom.com (Gene Choi) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.025511.1911@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> wyvern@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wyvern) writes:
>>I wasn't sure if anyone's already done this, so I "ported" (read: did minominor
>>touch-ups) Xtrek for Linux. I haven't been able to really test it yet
>>since I get the 'socket: invalid argument' when trying to run xtrek or xtrekd,
>>but that's just because my tcpip stuff isn't set up right and I haven't
>>messed with it since  I don't have an ethernet card anyway. I assume it works.
>>If you're inclined to believe me, let me know and I'll upload the binaries.
>>I'm using X11v1.1.

>Did you port the sources for the UDP version?...  Is UDP supported
>with tcp/ip .8?

>Gene

Ditto. Are we talking some old version of Xtrek, or are we talking
the final bronco "Netrek" source?

Scott
(aka Necron)



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From: moyerg@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (gary a moyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: trashed virt. consoles and mkfs w/ extfs
Keywords: mkfs
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:49:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6185

First, I am still getting trashed virtual consoles (you know, when
you accidentally grep a binary and end up with all these escape codes
and such on the screen..)  I cannot get back to a sane tty state.
Any help?

Secondly, I have a 300M hd here and am only using 160M of it.  I _tried_
to run mkfs over an extended partition but it just dies.  Any docs, help,
pointers, etc for using the extended file system?

Thanks.
-g.m.

==
  Gary Moyer
  moyerg@cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams )
Subject: dvips v 5.495
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:49:23 GMT

Following recommendations in the comp.text.tex newsgroup I have compiled
version 5.495 of dvips and made it available in pub/linux/tex-etc/Jump.4.1.version
on archsci.arch.su.edu.au (129.78.66.1) (file dvips5495.T.Z)

This file includes documentation, man pages, binaries a test file, tfms and
vfs for postscript fonts, some style files and config files.

It is set up for the standard tex distribution under /usr/local but may be
installed elsewhere provided the necessary environment variables are
instantiated (see the documentation for details)

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From: fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Frank T Lofaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Features: what are the status of these?
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:27:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UeoueAK00awME9LUs5
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


	Here are some things which would be nice to have put into Linux before
we call it 1.0. Which of these do we already have, and when will we have
the rest? Also, how hard is it to implement currently non-implement
features from this list? Some of these are more important than others
(i.e. some are wants, and some are real needs, like single-user boot)

1. mount -u (changes options on an already mounted filesystem.)
(could one even have support for changing the root filesystem? That
would really be nice!)
2. mount -o sync (mounting syncronously).
3. a fsck that has an option like fsck -p in BSD. That is, make all
repairs that can be made safely without user interaction.
4. A way to boot Linux into single-user mode. (I.e, with init not
running /etc/rc, or forking logins, just a root shell). Also, a way to
boot into non-init mode (what Linux boots into when there is no
/etc/init, would be also be nice). I guess one could have LILO pass
options to the kernel, or run a single-user startup or multi-user
startup kernel to do this.
5. the trace system call utility people are proposing
6. A real time priority setting, in which a process will always be
scheduled if runnable (I know this wouldn't be used too often, but it
might be needed for somethings, like user-level device drivers). Also,
have the worst priority not be 14 (that is a weird number), but rather
20 (like BSD) or more. I'd propose priorities from -32767 to +32767,
with -32768 being real-time. (or -127 to +127 with -128 being real-time)
7. Some way to tune the scheduler for differing needs (like favoring
interactive performance by penalizing processes that run using a lot of
CPU time for long stretches, or vice versa. Also allow changing how
often it switches processes.)
8. NFS client code. I've heard it is still in development. We should
wait until that is done (IMHO) before calling Linux 1.0.
9. Some easier way of configuring the kernel and device drivers via
config files. (for example, allowing one to write a driver with routines
for open, close, etc, and just changing a few lines of config code,
instead of heavy duty kernel hacking to incorporate it).
10. A netstat utility.
11. System calls to get kernel info.

	Anyway, thanks for a great free UN*X, and I hope some of these
suggestions are useful and used. (or already implemented). Having these
in before we call Linux 1.0 woulkd be good, since its reputation hangs
on how complete it is when we release the first non-beta version.

P.S. How does one write and then use new system calls? One could write
new functions into the kernel, but how would one go about accessing them?
From: H.Regan@bradford.ac.uk (H REGAN)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLIP for TCP/IP
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:00:08 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90465160@muser

Does anybody know if SLIP is available under linux. If
so can some kind sole send me details on it?

Thanks

Helen
From: olsen@xn.ll.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: no ALT key in gnu emacs (0.98 SLS)
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:12:54 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA


I'm running Linux 0.98 SLS, and I have an annoying problem with GNU
emacs: it ignores the ALT key, i.e., alt-<key> is treated the same as
<key> by itself.  The hardware I'm running it on is a DECpc-320p
laptop, a 386/387 with 8MB memory, 82MB disk, and a VGA display.  (I'm
not running X: digging out the intimate details of my laptop display
is more work than I have time for right now.)

The funny thing is that bash *does* recognize the ALT key for
command-line editing, so I suppose emacs must be doing something
funny to the keyboard setup.

I'd appreicate any suggestions on how to solve the problem.  Thanks in
advance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jjlawren@garfield.waterloo.edu (Jay Lawrence - DCS)
Subject: ADVICE NEEDED: ET4000 clock timings and Xfree
Reply-To: jjlawren@garfield.waterloo.edu
Organization: Department of Computing Services, University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:27:52 GMT

Hmmm, this should be over with the new Xfree stuff eh?  ALMOST.  What I am
finding with my ET4000 board is that the clock timings reported by Xfree
are not 100% consistant.  This means that I may need to take several attempts
to get X started in the right clock mode(?) or it will just give me an error
saying that there is no definition for that dot clock speed.

Usually it is ok but once and a while it will be really subborn and refuse to
report the right speeds.  I get it eventually after 'startx' several times.

I have tried to use my old X1.1 Clocks line in the Xconfig....seems to be
ignored.  Do I need to pad it out to 16 values?  Are zeros appropriate?

Thanks in advance (again).....


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: whit@Tymnet.COM (Kendall Whitlatch)
Subject: Re: High-Speed BBS for Linux Community
Reply-To: whit@Tymnet.COM (Kendall Whitlatch)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:39:15 GMT

I know that both myself and my brother are interested in Multinode BBS's
for Linux.  I'm interested in setting up a fidonet-to-internet gateway.

Kendall Whitlatch
whit@Tymnet.COM <---- Best method of contact.
Icelander@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@calypso.uucp (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: loss on sunsite
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:27:33 GMT

Through an accident, much of the recently uploaded X11 Linux stuff
was deleted.  Luckily I messed up while I was writing an INDEX file 
for it; hence I know exactly what I lost. We lost the following things:

cxterm chinese xterm 
xdm.tar.Z (X display manager)
xfm the x file manager
Xrz3D.tar.Z patches to give a 3d X interface to rz
xvtlin.tar.Z the lightweight virtual terminal for Linux

Additionally, I also lost the xterm-color that was from
somewhere in Australia.

I would be most appreciative if anyone could reupload these things.

thank you very much,
jem.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AST Fourports?
From: system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 18:06:27 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:

>    From: rchen@sfu.ca
>    Reply-To: rchen@sfu.ca
> 
>    What should an AST Fourport set me back.  I have found them here in
>    Vancouver for CAN $595 (around US $475).  They call it an
>    AST Fourport/AT Plus.  Is that what I want?  I heard that the
>    cards were cheap ($600 seems a bit much for a few UARTS).  
> 
> Eeek.  That's seems to be way too expensive.  I got mine from a salvage
> dealer for US $25.  I doubt they retailed for more than US $150 or so.
> Either that price is a complete ripoff, or it's not the same board.  At
> that price, you can buy "intelligent" serial boards which require much
> less CPU power --- they handle a lot of the I/O grunge work, and use DMA
> to send data to the CPU.  They are typically used when you want one CPU
> to support 8-16 timesharing users; thus, having sufficient I/O bandwidth
> and not tying up the CPU with serial line management are a big concern.
> 
> 						- Ted

  Excuse me Ted but this topic has nothing to do with Linux could you
take somewhere else please.



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