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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bikes in the House
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:47:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.4146
Distribution: na
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Nov5.161759.21644@geovision.gvc.com> barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer) writes:
>A friend of mine has his Honda RC30 in his living room next
>to his tv.  He says it is worth too much to drive on the road.

So he just takes it up the hall and around the dining room table once in
while?

"Of course, I'm an excellent driver."

-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Subject: Re: BMW R80/6 manual
Reply-To: quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:16:38 GMT

BMW doesn't provide its own technical books, so you have to rely on third party
publishers. These are good in highlighting weaknesses of a specific model (which
is not the case for the maker's book!) and giving good step-by-step procedures
for every specific repair. The only thing you don't have is the parts number, which prevents you from telephone ordering (or just forces you to find a good dealer who orders the right stuff - which is not always the case: don't ever go at MOTO INTERNATIONAL in Montreal!!!).

I have the Clymer book, but Haynes has one too. I had a look to both and they look
about the same. I had no problem using Clymer.

Good lock,

Henri Quiniou
(no e-mail!!)
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:12:34 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <Stafford-121192112351@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>One data point - until about 4 years ago, Minnesota had a 'protected
>class' for Vietnam veterans applying for state jobs. In fact, Viet
...
>obmoto: What other class should be protected?  Why, long-haired, tatooed
>bikers, that's who! ;-)

I thought you said they already had a protected class for Viet Nam vets....


(Hey!  No fair using your souvenir Huey!  Ouch!)


>btw -- i'm surprised by how many persons on this list are revealing
>that they are gay.  The percentage is approaching that of the Hells
>Angels!  (no smiley)


I guess they feel safe among friends.  At least I hope so...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: bikes for the candidates...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:50:48 GMT

karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:

>Care to explain why the bullying of the states by the
>DOT has continued unabated through twelve years of
>Republican administrations?  This is an executive
>branch policy that the White House can change if they
>want to.

	Not to mention that the Congress or any court can change.
Hey, there's no use in not spreading the blame to where it belongs.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: M20441@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:56:27 GMT

5'4" with a 29" inseam??  You call that *short*?  Try 5'even with a 27" inseam.
Seriously, though, its nice to see them making lower seat heights on the cruise
rs, if nothing else....
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Subject: Re: Keith Code Racing School
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:03:01 GMT
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Paul Thompson (thompson@Apple.COM) wrote:
: >2) Is there a standard course that Keith runs or can you do as much
: or as little as you want.?
: 
: Keith's schools are very structured, and you are required to do pretty much
: what Keith wants you to do.

yes it's structured, but in my experience, the students still don't
do what Keith says to do.  e.g., Keith says, "use 5th gear this time
out, no brakes if possible."  you see people zipping past you (shouldn't
be possible) on straights, braking hard on turns, and hanging off.

i guess they are exempt from learning, or know more than Keith so
they don't have to try and follow the lesson... i dunno.


if you DO take the class, make it the full day.  after half a day,
you'll JUST be getting a feel for what's going on, and then you have
to stop.  (can't say i got a good feel for the bike, even after a full
day.  hell, i'm still learning about my BMW, after 140k miles.)
try to learn, not go fast.  you'll do better in the long run.

if you are looking for the best tracktime/price ratio, CLASS is better,
and CCMA's (?) track day is better yet.


-- hesh
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: East Bay Salvage (Was: Re: Honda 650 h
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:19:46 GMT

In article <1du2fhINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 1dsbecINNnul@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, jlw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Jennifer L. Wesp) writes:
>>While in, I believe, Indiana on a
>>cross country trip this past summer, we needed a front brake light switch
>>for a Honda Nighthawk...
>>I was walking around looking at the bikes on the
>>floor, and spotted the same switch on a new bike, which they cheerfully
>>sold us. 
>Wow!  Brake light switch goes bad, and you replace the bike!
Well, the shaft effect was starting to get to me, too.(It was
a Nighthawk S.)

You know us rich--and wasteful--software engineers.
-Ekr



-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Rescorla, DoD#431 (Nighthawk S)              rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu
Former chemist now CM400 mechanic                 ekr@eitech.com(preferred)
                "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: East Bay Salvage (Was: Re: Honda 650 head problems)
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:43:57 GMT

In article <1dsbecINNnul@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jlw4@po.CWRU.Edu
(Jennifer L. Wesp) writes:
|> 
|> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) says:
|> >georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu) says:
|> 
|> That's not even a complete solution.  While in, I believe, Indiana on
|> a
|> cross country trip this past summer, we needed a front brake light
|> switch
|> for a Honda Nighthawk.  Having just recently gone junkyarding for a
|> new
|> resevoir for a CM400, I knew that the part was pretty standard.  We
|> stopped
|> into I believe a Suzuki/Yamaha shop & asked.  They called up their
|> fiche,
|> looked in catalogues, and swore they didn't have anything even
|> remotely
|> like it in the store.  I was walking around looking at the bikes on
|> the
|> floor, and spotted the same switch on a new bike, which they
|> cheerfully
|> sold us. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^
You bought a whole bike just to get the switch off of..
wish I had that kind of money. :-)

Keep in mind that most manufacturers dont build components,
when the design engineers build stuff they have a LARGE
assortment of catalogs to grep for parts in, Many of the
parts are available in large "Electronic Supply Stores"
(and I dont mean radio shack). My midnite uses 1156, 1157, H4
and 199 bulbs that are 1/4 what the dealer sell them for
if purchased in an auto parts store, same for filters.
A really valuable piece of paper would be the factory order
forms for those parts such as who makes them and the manufactures
part number. Of course my old company worked out a deal with
a certain head manufactuing co not to sell those particular
heads to anyone else but them, which gave them a nice corner on
a $7k ea product. They also did it with a motor manufacturer, so
any of those parts purchases went through the company (along with
the appropriate markup).

-- 
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Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I by my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DoD anthem writer/singer a Point of Light
Date: 9 Nov 1992 17:29:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

This is the guy who wrote/sang the pickle song.

Arlo's a Point of Light, Laszlo was nearly elected President.  The mind
boggles...


Arlo Guthrie Named A `Point of Light'

Housatonic, Mass.
	Folk singer Arlo Guthrie, whose song "Alice's Restaurant"
became an anthem for the VietNam War generation, has been named 
one of the nation's "Points of Light" by President Bush.
	Bush honored Guthrie for his "record of concern for those
in need" and for "making a difference in the lives of those around you."

>From The San Francisco Chronicle, November 5th, 1992
(Reprinted without permission)


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:32:50 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <1dhrf2INNc49@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
> In article <721185461snx@swamp.demon.co.uk>, Neil@swamp.demon.co.uk (njb) writes:
> |> Can anybody tell a newcomer WTH Do means?
> |> 
> 
> 	please post responses (rather than e-mail) please, since i
> 	would also like to know the answer.
> 
> 	thank you,
> 
> 	- ravi
> 

Continue reading rec.motorcycles. I think you'll get it.
Nobody can tell you this...

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
DoD? Waiting the K...
From: harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Space Oddity
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:30:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.2139

Reply-To: harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: /usr/ens/etc/organization
Keywords: 


>I am not an electrowhiz.  People talk about BMW R-bikes not reaching
>the charge/drain breakeven point until XXXX RPM.  Is it possible to
>rig up a simple light that will turn on when the battery is draining
>instead of charging?

In ancient times an ammeter was installed for that purpose. If you are
seriously interested check out the Stewart-Warner or VDO or Motor Meter (?)
catalogs at an auto parts store. Some one probably has a small diameter unit
that would fit easily.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: timke@microsoft.com (Tim Keane)
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors (Was Re: SOMEONE TRIED TO STEAL MY)
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:56:56 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <4265@cvbnetPrime.COM> rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:
>Okay - you want to work on your bike in your appartment?  Take the tank off.
>It may seem way cool to you but if your building burns and you have something
>that accelerates the process and someone is burned to death as a result are
>you gonna say "Like, so fucking what? That's life..."?  Now if you want to 
>do this in the privacy of your own home, wellllll, go right ahead my friend.
>I feel a little more responsible for my wife & kids tho' if something 
>happened to them...

So, Rich, how do you feel about parking a bike in a garage that is attached
to a house?  Or in a garage that is the lower floor of an apartment/condo unit?

I'm just curious how you deliniate what is "inside", since I don't think
attached garages usually have a firewall between them and the living quarters
(or am I wrong about that?).

I have no vested interest in this debate since I live in a house with a
detached garage, so don't bother flaming me about it.  It just seems to me
that you're making some pretty extreme accusations for something that is
rather arbitrary.  A motorcycle parked in an attached garage could accelerate
the process of the building burning down just as easily as one parked in the
kitchen or living room could, right?  So what's the deal?


Tim Keane (aka timke@microsoft.com)       /======\'74 John Player Norton
-----<---@   Britbikes 'R' Us   @---->----| DoD# |'67 Triumph TR6R
    Nobody ever dies wishing they had     | 0165 |'70 BSA 441 Victor Special
      spent more time at the office.      \======/'67 Triumph T100R (Sheila's)
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38487 ba.motorcycles:738
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: East Bay Salvage (Was: Re: Honda 650 head problems)
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:27:29 GMT
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.

In article <1deo2iINNc9c@fido.asd.sgi.com> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) writes:
>georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu) says:
>> 
>>      What this business really needs is an inventory by part number,
>> rather than bike model.
>
>That won't help. Bike manufacturers will assign a DIFFERENT part number
>to the brake pedal for a SRX-250 and for another bike, EVEN THOUGH THEY
>ARE THE SAME PART! After a few years, they will then change the part
>number to the `common' one.

Not true for Yamaha.  I've used the parts fiche for my RZ500 to dig out
part numbers for 'common' Yamaha parts from other bikes that'll
fit my not-imported-to-the-US bike.  In my case, the RZ500-only parts
have a unique prefix; anything else is a fastener or from another bike.
The piston pin circlips are 1969 AT125 parts. :-)

The fiche has been the best $6 I've spent on the bike so far.


--
  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
    This package contains one (1) Usenet news posting.  Do not eat.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Anybody need a roomie in Austin  TX??
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:24:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.205735.4287@ultb.isc.rit.edu> meh0570@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
|I just got a coop (or internship) in Austin TX
|and will need a place to live.
[...]
|I have some small caged animals, I also have a bike 
|but dont know if I will bring it down.

  "Small caged animals"???  Birds???  NOISY birds? :-)

  Well, sorry, can't help you - I don't have any rooms in Austin, since I
live in California.  I've still got keys to a (still vacant) rental house
in Austin, if you want them... :-)

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: ellert@ds2.uh.cwru.edu (Ed Ellert)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: First BMW ?s
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:35:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ds2.uh.cwru.edu
Summary: A few questions regarding the purchase of a first Beemer
Keywords: BMW

Hi,
	For many years I've planned to buy a BMW, and now I'm going to
do it...but which one?  I guess I've settled on the K75 over the K100
primarily due to price and word of mouth recommendations, although
there's something about those R100's.  Anyway, I have a couple of
questions: 1) is this a good choice? and 2) is the K100RS fairing
available/compatible with the K75?
	A little background:  I plan use this mainly for weekend or
longer trips, commuting isn't in the near future (is there a term
like "cager" for those of us who walk almost everywhere?) but may
be in a couple of years.  Also, I may find myself in another country
in a year or two...road conditions unknown...possibly Australia or
Indonesia, just some food for thought, I'd be interested in comments
about taking a motorcycle to another country.  Oh, yeah, I haven't
test driven any of them yet and that may decide me; the weather here
hasn't been that great recently and I want to brush up on my riding
skills a bit.
	Any constructive advice is welcome regarding haggling tricks,
must-have options, best time to buy, pros and cons of various models,
and probably most important - things I haven't thought of.  If I get
a bunch of email responses, I will summarize the results and post
them.

	Thanks,
		Ed Ellert
		email: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38474 rec.bicycles:23617
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Spanning The Globe
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:11:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 4236@cvbnetPrime.COM, tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson) writes:
>
>*It also mentioned that bicyclists "rarely" collect money when riding
> at night without illumination.

This is true.  I personally NEVER contribute to soliciting bicyclists
after dark if they are without a flashlight.  I find this behavior
common.

>*3 out of every 4 motorcyclists make up 75% of the motorcycling population
> while only 2 out of every 5 bicyclists make up only 40% of the bicycling
> population.

However, 3 out of 10 Republicans make up 33.33% of the elephant party,
while 7 out of 15 Democrats comprise 46.67% of the donkeys.  This is
undoubtedly why Clinton won the election.

Just keeping our esteemed Mr. Johnson honest...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Long winter's nap . . .
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:57:18 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>The latest Road Rider winter storage guide said to drain the old filter
>and return it to the bike for the storage period, replacing it in the
>spring.  The justification given was something profound, like "trust me."

You, of course, know what "trust me" is a synonym of...  ;^)

>Why?

Too cheap to "waste" a new filter, perhaps?  What about the oil?  That
costs as much or more than the filter.  Do they recommend using the
storage oil upon returning the bike to service?  I sure hope not.

I'd be concerned about acids from the old filter migrating through the
new oil.  It's quite a dilution factor, especially if the motor remains
static (ie: not occasionally rotating the crank a few revolutions to keep
the rings from sitting at one spot in the cylinders for too long).  You
could probably get away with it, but why chance it for a couple bucks?

I used to simply not put a filter in the bike during winter storage.
Giving the crank a few revs with a wrench isn't likely to generate a
considerable filtration risk, and you get to save a couple dollars on
the filter, if you're that cash-poor (which many of us are/were when
we were in school).  Obviously, this only works for cartridge filters,
not for spin-ons.

>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
1982 CBX (White Lightning), 1982 GS850G (Suzibago), 1976 CJ360T (Little Honda)
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,                               =o&>o
=o&>o                   you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:23:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.222107.20587@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>	Read the whole post.  I admitted to being ornery.

Hey! It's my duty to point out this kind of stuff. Geesh....read the
secret rules! Oops....never mind that.

>>I don't recall any orange or yellow K bikes. The Daytona orange R90S
>>however has to be one of the most beautiful paint jobs I've ever seen.
>
>	The K1 is orange and yellow.  Looks like a Fisher-Price item.

I took this off-line with a couple of folks. The K1 is red - Marakech red to
be exact. Maybe you should get a color test. Ya know - first its your
think red is orange, then you'll be saying FJ's have great paint jobs,
before you know it, you'll be buying one of them GTS1000's thinking its
a Buick.

-John
============================================================================
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  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MERCEDES MOTORCYCLE????
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:40:29 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1dueg1INNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green
- Pixel Cruncher) wrote:
> 
> In article 637@cup.hp.com, hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:
> >
> >so maybe someone liked the MB logo....
> 
> It was one of those liberal, anti-nuke, fuzzy puppy, pre-faded jeans,
> 60's ....


who's also 6' tall, 185 pounds and gets the biggest thrill out of
stomping pixel crunchers.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Subject: Re: Shaft effect, What is it?
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:40:29 GMT

In article <88@ddn-wms.nmi.com>, gunnj@ddn-wms.nmi.com (Janet Gunn) writes:
> Make that "you don't see many", not "you don't see any".
> Mike Tiberio finished 10th overal in the AMA Pro twins class this year -
> on a SHAFT DRIVE Moto Guzzi.
>
Agreed, you do see some racers on shaft drives.  However, if you ask Mike
(I did last weekend at the WERA races) he'll mention how one of his secrets
is being able to gear the bike so he can go through the turns (especially
the esses) without having to downshift.  Since he doesn't have to down
shift, *he doesn't have to deal with the shaft effects*.  Those were his
words, not mine.   'Course it also proves that proper gearing and *damned*
fine riding can nullify any shaft effect.

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210