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From: kb@jet.uk (Kenneth Blackler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: What is VEISA?
Summary: What si VEISA???
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:03:57 GMT
Organization: Joint European Torus


I was told by a DEC salesman the other day at a Windows NT
conference that they were working on a VEISA bus. What
is this? 

Most of the world hasn't caught up with EISA, seems to have
forgotten about MCA (no flames please!) and now we have 
Local Bus....

Ken B.
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From: dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
Subject: Re: Northgate's "Virtual Cache Architecture"
Organization: Queen's University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:06:33 GMT

In article <dmurdoch.131.715960476@mast.queensu.ca> I wrote:

>Northgate advertises that their ZXP systems have "Virtual Cache 
>Architecture".  The salesman I talked to seemed unable to tell me what this 
>meant.  Can anyone here? 

I've talked to another salesman.  They use a Headland Technology "HTK340 
Shasta 486 Chip Set", which is supposed to group byte and word sized writes 
into 32 bit writes.  Apparently it also groups reads; the benchmarks they 
sent showed that their system could run through PC Magazine's 128K NOP loop 
with no wait states.

This is probably a great idea for most 16 bit software, but I'd guess it 
wouldn't be so great on software written to take advantage of 32 bit 
operands.  If anyone has any experience with machines using this, I'd like 
to hear about it.  My particular interest is in doing floating point math on 
one.

They sent references to two PC Week articles:  July 27/92 v9 n30 p28(1) and 
Mar 23/92 v9 n12 p34(1).

Duncan Murdoch
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From: Sarel.Barnard@f42.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Sarel Barnard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: NEED 1.44 STIFFY
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 13:54:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7101/42 - Lakeside BBS, Roodepoort

CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT THERE I NEED A 1.44 STIFFY DRIVE VERY SOON
UNDER THE R200...PLEASE
I CAN GET A NEW ONE FOR R202

DROP ME A MESSAGE, IF U WANT TO SELL
CHEERS


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From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: What type of mouse to buy (for windows)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:48:17 GMT

willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams) writes:

>In <3crn1mb.jamesh@netcom.com> jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower) writes:

>>kellys@holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff) writes:

>>>A friend of mine has a 386 and wants to run Windows but has no mouse.  I've heard
>>>that one should get the Microsoft mouse because other mice have compatibility
>>>problems with Windows.  However, I personally do not like the MS Mouse and
>>>think it's overpriced.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to other good mice
>>>and where I might find them?

We've been buying lots of different no-name brand mice, and ALL have
worked just fine.  To name a few: Mighty, Logitech, Microsoft, Mighty Cat,
New Idea, Qtronix, IBM, Dexxa, and Labway.  Actually, I think that's a fairly
comprehensive list.  You are probably going to experience hardware failures
with no-name brand mice rather than compatibility failures, but at $20,
I consider the cheap ones disposable.  Personally, I like Microsoft's,
Logitech's, Mighty Cat's, Dexxa's (old and new models), then New Idea's.
The other ones weren't comfortable.  And I just *hated* IBM's!
Where to find them: at your local computer store, just ask, they should
all carry at least 1 cheap brand along with the better known ones.


>While we're on the subject, what is the latest version of microsoft's 
>MOUSE.SYS/mouse.com??

I think we're at 8.1 or 8.2 here.

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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu (RICHARD HOFFBECK) writes:

> I
> placed the order at midnight CDT and had it in hand 10 hours later!  That
> certainly beats the run around that you usually get from mail order 
> sources :-(  

     What's really amazing is that they claim that you'll get next day
delivery (for those areas that support it) if you place your order by
3AM EST!  If I read their ad correctly, this means that, if I call by 12
midnight west coast time, I'll still get my package the very next day.

     I haven't had the guts to see if this is really true, though.

     -- Darryl Okahata
	darrylo@sr.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: venu@cirrus.com (Venu Nayar)
Subject: Portables, PORTABLES, PORTABLES
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:11:49 GMT

Hi all,

I am looking for a portable computer with the following configuration: 

486-33 motherboard with at least 4MB of RAM.
120 MB HDD.
5 1/4" and 3 1/2" FDD.
Gas Plasma display.
Connection for external VGA monitor.
Serial/Parallel ports.
At least 4 full-size AT slots. (important)

Optional:
Ethernet connection.

Another option is to buy a notebook with an expansion box. 

I would appreciate any suggestions from you about particular makes, or
pointers to where this setup could be available.

Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Multiple Partitions on a Hard Drive?
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:22:43 GMT

mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen) writes:

>What are the advantages or disadvantages to having multiple partitions on a
>hard drive? I intend to use only DOS, so I don't really need more than one,
>but would it speed up disk operations if I split my 130 M drive in to two or 
>three partitions?

I would split that drive into two or three partitions, as follows:

1) Application software for which I kept original floppies.

2) Application data files and/or config files (if possible).

3) [Optional] Non-serious stuff; tests, etc.

This way, you only have one drive to back up regularly.  You can always 
reinstall anything on the applications directory from original floppies.

As long as you kept the disk defragmented, there would be little performance
difference, probably none that you would _notice_.

-JTT


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.dcom.modems
From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Subject: Re: Source for 16550AFN's?
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:25:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article, erik@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Erik VanRiper) writes:
>>
>Sure.  1-800-DIGI-KEY.  Tell them that you want "NS16500AFN" as a part number.
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^         
                                      Do you mean NS16550AFN?
                                                       ^

>You will get:
>
>Part Number: NS16550AFN
>Manf Number: PC16550CN
>
>which is the latest and greatest version.  They run a bit less then $12.00
>each.  I think min order is $25.00, so grab 2, and a 40 pin socket.  :-)
>

Thanks for the info anyway...


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From: kgs@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Kok G Sang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Rodime jumper settings
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:24:03 GMT
Reply-To: kgs@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Kok G Sang)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University

I just found what the jumper settings are for the Western Digital hard
drive so I can make it a slave. Does someone haave a Rodime drive and
know what the jumper settings are? Hopefully it won't differ from my
200 meg.

Thanks!
Kok
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: BERNOULLI BERNOULLI
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:30:05 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:

>OK, I'd like to follow up on this, and see a comparison of the
>Bernoulli 90 versus the Syquest 88.

>Which is faster?

Syquest

>Which is cheaper?

Syquest, by a LARGE margin.

>Which has cheaper media?

Draw.  Depends on the discounter.

>Which is more likely to work with my Adaptec 1542B SCSI adapter?

Syquest.  Looks like a standard SCSI device.

>Which is more likely to work with any arbitrary operating system?

Syquest.  Ditto.

>Which is more reliable?

Probably the Syquest.  Bernoullis, at least in the 20+20 days, were
notoriously unreliable.  My cleaning cartridge got used almost
as much as my data cartridges.

The important question you left out:  Who offers better support?
Syquest by a light year.  They currently have a 2 year old drive of mine
doing a free upgrade to fix a problem with it functioning with an 
Adaptec controller.  The entire upgrade involves changing just about
everything except the chassis and front bezel.  Before they decided
I needed an upgrade, they spent hours with me troubleshooting the 
problem and sent me several revisions of software in an attempt to 
work around the problem.

Bernoulli?  Well they (used to?) have a BBS...


I've attached my Syquest to everything in the shop, ranging from my Unix
system to a Trantor parallel port adaptor with 100% success.

John
(ex bernoulli, current syquest owner.)
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From: MORRO@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU ("John K. Duchowski")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 80X86 Architecture Differences
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:01:00 GMT

Hello Everyone,

	Could someone please explain to me in clear, plain English the
differences between architecture of different 80X86 chips ?  I have a bet
with a friend of mine who says that in the 80486 the math coprocessor
is built in ONLY in the chips with clock speeds of 33 MHz and above.  This
seems odd to me as then what would be the difference between a 25 MHz
80386 (not SX) and 80486 ?  I would very much appreciate it if the
explanation would also include few words on the SX, DX, etc variants.
Thank you.

John Duchowski

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From: asd1466@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.S. Dumas)
Subject: SCSI card recommendation requested
Originator: asd1466@ultb
Keywords: SCSI, ISA
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:51:32 GMT


Can SCSI users please send me recommendations for interface cards.

Requirements:
  16bit ISA
  floppy controller for 2 floppies
  internal and external SCSI bus connections

  Would eventually like to have HD (213M Maxtor?), CD-ROM (?),
  and tape (Archive Viper?).

Questions:
  Are device drivers required for things besides HD? (ie, tape, cd-rom)
  (device drivers at extra cost?)

  Can DOS/WINDOWS support > 2 HD?

  Can the floppy controller also support the mini-cartridge tape drive?
  (ie, Summit Express SE250 or Jumbo 250)
  
  Is SCSI-2 100% compatible w/ SCSI? (I know - ignorant question)
  Can SCSI and SCSI-2 devices share same bus?


Thanks in advance,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: Who makes VESA local bus motherboards?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 01:02:38 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Distribution: usa

There is at least one caching ISA IDE controller (Ultrastor) that can
act as bus master and support up to 8 megabytes/second data transfer rate. 
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From: jmh@coyote.datalog.com (John Hughes)
Subject: Re: Disconnect Phantom
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:00:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.235246.29712@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.064651.21498@nntp.hut.fi> tsand@vipunen.hut.fi (Tapio Sand) writes:
>>
>>[....]
>>I can't believe
>>that by writing ATZ I am resetting half of the netters modems (oops.. :-)
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^
>How does writing ATZ result in the string of characters I see in your .sig?
>Or did you simply capture the output from your modem when you send it ATZ?
>(What is " D;+vC)?iH%" " ?)

ATZ is the global reset command. On mine it causes a reload of whatever is
stored in the EEPROM config memory. It's been rumored that a lot of folks
don't change the defaults, so an ATZ can wipe out the current settings.
Just putting it in a message won't do anything. (it shouldn't...)

I don't know if the end-of-carrier garbage has any significance at all.
Modemus interruptus, perhaps? |-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: Jesse
Subject: Nubus/Atbus/Eisabus ? And info on laptops ?
Originator: cyen@ponder.csci.unt.edu
Organization: Computer Science Dept .of UNT
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:09:53 GMT

Hi

  Does anyone have info about these two questions?

 (1) What is the difference among Nubus, EISAbus and Atbus in details?
     Will it cause the software uncompatible?

 (2) Recently I am getting tired of using Mac, and thinking of buying
     a laptop. If you have great expericence in using it, please give
     me recommandation. Besides, how many laptops have internal modems?
     And, I wanna use laptop in graphics programming of C. Will LCD VGA
     work fine as same as color VGA/SVGA do?

     THANX IN ADVANCE, SINCERELY

e-mail: cyen@cs.unt.edu

Jesse
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From: kylscott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (kyl w scott)
Subject: Re: ISA cards in an EISA bus
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:36:14 GMT

In <1992Sep10.221353.5441@datascope.com> jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis) writes:

>In article <1992Sep3.190409.17253@microware.com> adam@microware.com (Adam Goldberg) writes:
>>Here's the rub:  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong...)
>>
>>An EISA bus runs at 16MHz, but an ISA bus runs (usually) at 8 or 10 MHz.
>>When you plug an ISA card into an EISA bus, the EISA bus sees the ISA
>>card and lowers it's speed to 8MHz.  Thereby decreasing throughput
>>because of the lower clock speed.
>>
>>The solution is to buy a EISA machine that has floppy & parallel &
>>serial ports on the MB (or on an EISA card).
>>
>>Can someone in the know confirm/deny this?
>>

>I don't think EISA is 16MHZ. If I remember right, the standards are as follows:

>ISA: 8 mhz
>EISA: 10 mhz
>Micro-channel: 12 mhz

>---Jay Davis

Well, The original ISA was 6 Mhz (original AT) and then
became 8 Mhz.  Some Motherboards can drive the bus 8-16 Mhz, and
some ISA cards can run at > 8 Mhz (The ultrastor 12(F) was designed
for ISA operation at up to 16 MHz, I have run it at 12 MHz, which is
where my Orchid Prodesigner II would stop working).

The EISA bus operates at 8.25 Mhz with variable BCLK timing generated
by the EISA Bus Controller chip which varies the speed from 6 MHz to
8.25 MHz depending on the type of bus operation that is taking place.

The Maximum Data Transfer Rate on an EISA system is 33 MBytes/s, which
occurs on single cycle (8.25 MHz) burst transfers that are 32 bits
wide.  32 bits = 4 Bytes, 4 Bytes * 8.25 cycles/s * 1 Bytes/cycle =
33 MBytes/s.

The ISA transfer rates on an EISA bus varies depending on the abilities of 
the individual card.  There are four timing modes available:
  Default = ALL ISA and EISA cards support this mode,
            8 bit xfers = 1.0 MByte/s
           16 bit = 2.0 MByte/s
  TypeA   = Most? ISA and ALL? EISA,
            8 bit = 1.3 MBytes/s
           16 bit = 2.6 Mbytes/s
  TypeB   = Some? ISA and ALL?? EISA
            8 bit = 2.0 Mbytes/s
           16 bit = 4.0 MBytes/s
  TypeC   = NO ISA and Some??/ALL?? EISA
            8 bit = 8.25 Mbytes/s
           16 bit = 16.5 Mbytes/s
           32 bit = 33.0 Mbytes/s

32 bit xfers are supported in all modes for EISA cards only.  The
bus controller handles data size translation between ISA - EISA - the system
automatically.

The different modes use different numbers of BCLK cycles and can vary the
BCLK itself (1.5 BCLK cycles).  I haven't really looked into the specifics
of this, most of the above is what I can remember from an EISA tech ref I
looked at after I bought my current EISA system....

Hope it helps...

-Kyl

P.S. I have no clue about the speed of MCA.
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Using two video cards at once (EGA and VGA)
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:30:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: abcd.Jim_Johnson.089q
Distribution: world
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

If your overhead display will accept monochrome (MDA or Hercules) output,
you are in luck.  You can run one color display card (address B800) and one
monochrome display card (address B000) in a system at the same time.  There
is usually a jumper on the motherboard which tells the system which is the
default device at boot time (and sometimes jumpers on the video boards). 
You can switch between them via DOS using the MODE MONO or MODE CO80
commands.  Some software will automatically support (or maybe even
require!) both displays and send text to the mono and graphics to the color
display.

Without a special video card however, it is not possible to have two color
display cards in the same system as both will try to use the same address.

A possibility is to use an EGA card with one of the boxes that sends the
video to two monitor ports - one port for your overhead projector, and the
other port for your monitor.

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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: Who makes VESA local bus motherboards?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:17:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep05.182115.2790@zeos.com>, kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes:

> - Supports the 486SX-25, 486DX-33, 486DX2-50, 486DX2-66 and the P24T when it
>   is released.

What is a P24T?  Is it a P5 (586)?

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From: anderson@dseg.ti.com (John Anderson)
Subject: re: gateway 2000
Organization: TI-DSEG Spring Creek
Reply-To: anderson@dseg.ti.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:28:24 GMT

In article <n08y7t#@rpi.edu>  writes:
>I have heard a lot of bad things about Gateway 2000 here, 
>and would like the people who are pleased with them to give
>me some information about their good experiences.
>
>Also, I have been informed by G2000 that their 15" Crystal 
>Scan monitor can only do 60Hz refresh at 1024x768.  Can
>anyone confirm this?  If it's true then this monitor is 
>definitely not the Mag MX15F, because it can do 76Hz at 
>this resolution, right?
>

Mike

I have their 486Dx2/50 with 8m meg, 200 meg hd, Telepath and 15" Monitor.
They all work great.  My wife and I love it.  We got the Microsoft Office
and also the TI MicroLaser PS17.

I just got the Modem installed and working this weekend.  Both Fax and modem 
work fine in the modes I tried.  I did ignore a warning in the installation 
of the WinFax software and had a problem for a while, but I figured it out on
my own.
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell SIMM != standard SIMM?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 21:02:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, catfood@wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann) says:

>
>Hi, all.
>
>I have a Dell 325P with 2M RAM as shipped.  I want to add 2M now.
>
>The "generic" SIMMs I got from a mail-order house don't seem to fit
>the motherboard slots for SIMMs, nor do they look like the factory-
>installed SIMMs.
>
>Sketch of Dell-installed SIMM:
>
>+-------------------------------------+
>| XXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXX      |
>| XXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXX      |
>|                                     |
>|       XXXXX      XXXXX              |
>-|      XXXXX      XXXXX             |-
> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>


72 pin simm


>Sketch of mail-order generic SIMM:
>
>+------------------------------+
>|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
>|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
>|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
>|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
>+||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||+



36 pin simm


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