HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple writer II
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:43:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1361700007@igc.apc.org>, aicipp@igc.apc.org (America/Israel
Council) wrote:
> 
> 
> Applewriter II, Version 2.1, is now available as freeware and can be
> downloaded from Compuserve's Apple II library (GO APPLEII).  Let me
> know if you still have problems getting it.
> 
> Evan Appelman

It's also available from several other online services, not the least of
which is GEnie -- home base for the Lost Classics project which convinced
Mr. Lutus to release Apple Writer 2.1 in the first place.

(I believe in credit where credit is due, and Tim Tobin has plenty of
credit coming to him.)

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Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
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From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 10:01:09 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Function Call Disasters
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <uerics.717723369@mcl> Eric D. Shepherd writes:
>The problem is this: this routine crashes on exit.  Using strategically
>placed breakpoints, I found that the stack is in good condition immediately
>before the while loop, but during the while loop, stuff is being pulled
>off the stack -- including the return address from function1!!  Does this

I've had something similar occur.  My program would run to the end, but the
return (exit) address for the program always got munged.  Setting a larger
stack size fixed the problem.  Your problem sounds similar, but not quite
the same, but it is worth a try anyway.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cjs@ausom.oz.au (Cameron Silver)
Subject: Re: Micol BASIC??
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:15:19 GMT
Reply-To: cjs%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Also if anyone has some demos of Micol BASIC, could they post them too??
-- 
Cameron Silver
Internet: cjs%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au

Try to have some fun. It's quicker if you run! :-)
From: Lance.Taylor-Warren@p1.f213.n213.z1.UUCP (Lance Taylor-Warren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: CHEAP HARDWARE, MAC/PC/][!
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:17:42 GMT


 RB> 2. Panasonic KXP-1124 Printer
 RB> 
 RB>    Top of the line 24-pin printer with *6* Resident fonts, and the fastest 
 RB> 
 RB>    24-pin printer around! Bought for $500, we will sell for $260 obo.
 RB> 
 RB> 3. PC Transporter Turbo 14Mhz + 8087-2
 RB> 
 RB> Applied Engineering PC Transporter (originally $800) with a 14 MHz
 RB> 8086/8 with the fastest 8087-2 (originally $200) with GS Installation
 RB> kit    (originally $100) and MS-DOS v5.0 (originally $100) and Windows 3.1
 RB>    (originally $100) and America Online (originally $25) for the crazy low
 RB>    price of $250 (originally $1400)

I might be interested in both of these items, if you still have them...

let me know...

Lance Taylor-Warren
ltw@equinox.unr.edu




 * Origin: Come to NV, spend your money, bring your water... (1:213/213.1)
From: elw@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: For Sale; Zoom Modem, 80 col, PlusWorks
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:46:22 GMT
Reply-To: elw@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus


My ][+ just died and I've upgraded to a used //e, and find that
I have a few extra cards and things.  I'll post more later as I 
determine what I no longer can use.
  
	- Zoom Modem (Networker 300, 110 baud) 

	- "noname" 80 column card for a ][+

	- PlusWorks software allows you to patch AppleWorks
	   to run on a ][+.  


Will consider all offers,



-------------------------------------------------------
Ellis Workman                   Internet:  elw@mayo.edu
Biomedical Imaging Resource
Mayo Clinic/Foundation          Talk:    (507) 284-4435                  
Rochester, MN 55905             FAX:     (507)-284-1632
-------------------------------------------------------
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  Apple /// FAQs
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:58:48 GMT
Organization: The Internet

To David Jernigan:
I couldn't possibly route directly to you (and am expecting an amlost
instantanious bounce :)  We just acquired a pair of ///s (cpu only and
one is a ///+).  Call me if you're interested 414/549-9261 evenings.
Marc
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Downloading/ARC files/ProTERM
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:06:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Steven Eric Schwartz writes...

>Here is what I am doing -- help:
[problem with download via Kermit-binary deleted]
>All I get is errors!!!!!!!

   Many people have had this problem, included myself. ProTERM 2.x and many
early copies for ProTERM 3.0 corrupt files sent by Kermit in binary send.
The only solution is use an alternative program (ie - Kermit 387), or wait
for InSync to write ProTERM 3.0.1/3.1 and hope this bug is fixed.

>Steven Eric Schwartz            "It's not safe out here. It's wonderous, with
>(schwarts@cps.msu.edu)           treasures to satiate desires both subtle and
>125 East Wilson Hall-MSU         gross.  But it's not for the timid."
>East Lansing, Michigan  48825                           - Q, "Q Who"

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:08:41 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Bug?!?!
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Sep29.095317.5180@nuscc.nus.sg>

In <1992Sep29.095317.5180@nuscc.nus.sg> ONG TAT-WEE writes:
>The following code segment is what I've come up with:
>   a = 0;
>   while (c=getchar()!=EOF)
>     a++;
>   srand(a);

Hmmm, well getchar waits until a 'return' is pressed.  Someone already
mentioned GetNextEvent, you could also try just using the GetTicks
tool call (I think VBLs have to be enabled).  Also, you may want to use
the recently uploaded 'random library'.  If you have an assembler, you
should be able to quickly write an assembly routine to access the keyboard
latch (you can also do this in C with pointers, but there is no point in
confusing you even more right now).  Although the technique with the keyboard
latch is not 'legal' normally, it is if you know that the event manager has
not been started.

>I'm using APW C.  Heard that it's dead?!?

Yep, I believe Apple is even recommending ORCA.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: has tr been ported by anybody?
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:51:57 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: 	BTW: Proterm 2.2's editor used to allow the replacing of
: control characters by finding a ctrl-P+character, but 3.0 doesn't
: have this feature.  I looked it over for about ten minutes the
: other day, and it looks like the whole editor has been gutted.
: Pity -- the 2.2 editor was pretty powerful once you got used to it.

ProTERM 3.0's Editor is a lot better than 2.2's was, after you mess with it
enough, and you can replace control characters with it, just do this..

In the Find Box, type "^J"
In the Replace Box type "^M"

Do NOT hit Control-J, but ^J (caret-j)


--

Roy Barrett, InterNet: (dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu), FutureNet: #1@#31
Double-Sided Double-Density (405/943-9496), FutureNet Site #31, Apple ][!!
 "Yes. but I didn't inhale" -- Bill Clinton, "Potatoe" -- Dan Quayle
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Function Call Disasters
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:33:09 GMT

I thought of fixing the stack size.  I put in a #pragma stacksize 16384 at
the beginning of the first file in the program (the one containing main()).
Is that the right place for it, or does it belong in every file?

- Eric S.

--
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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Function Call Disasters
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:32:52 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany

uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:

[On ORCA/C crashing the stack]

> Help!

Hmm. Seems you're stuck. Rewrite the function in question in ASM for the time
being ... that is, until the next update. This should fix your problems.

Soenke
-- 
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From: bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Bob Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Laser printers on GS (was: Where is everybody..)
Date: 1 Oct 1992 03:10:09 -0400
Organization: Not much!
NNTP-Posting-Host: mthvax.cs.miami.edu

Joe Kohn asks about laser printing with a GS, and in 8 bit mode. Well I am
just about to enter the start of my third year of using an HP IIp with my GS
and it does just fine with both Prodos 8 and GSOS. I use it with DB Master
Professional almost every day, as well as Word Perfect.. I use many 
assorted fonts with it with no problems...

If anyone wants the more intimate details of such usage, if they will
drop me some e-mail, I will give them my phone number, and will be glad
to help them on the phone...

I will also gladly provide insight on several other things to consider
when trying to figure out which laser printer to buy. These are items
that can save many $$$$ during the life of the printer you buy, so keep
in mind that the cheapest price on a printer model when you buy it is 
not always the cheapest printer to maintain later on...

-- 
   bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu |                         | MCI MAIL:BSHERMAN
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple..
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:54:37 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <is70184@pro-ace.cts.com> midnight@pro-ace.cts.com (Midnight Wanderer) writes:
>[...] Is Apple computer. going to come up with anymore system disks or was
>6.0 the final chapter, other than bug patches??

6.0.1 is in progress, but I don't have permission to talk about it in detail.
We showed an early version at KansasFest in July.

(It's -not- just bug fixes.)
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: tonyh@pro-scat.cts.com (Tony Hamaoui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Me And My IIc
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:37:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.

I got a big response when I said "there are no hard drives for a //c.      
Now that i think of it I remember seeing a //c harddrive in a+ incider     
magazine so I guess they still make them.
From: mikem@pro-applebcs.UUCP (Michael Mulvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: HELP!!!  with IIgs  (Please!!)
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:21:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Proline [pro-applebcs] Boston Computer Society

Try the control panel settings and set them to the correct settings. set
the speed to 9600 put bufferring to on and then the handshakes may have
something to do with it.

- Mike
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca/C Bug?!?!
Date: 2 Oct 1992 11:25:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>   Best yet, bug the System Software group to add this functionality to
>the system software. It's been lacking since the very first Apple II.

Not since the Event Manager was available. You could also use the Console
Driver, but that's admittedly like using a Cray to balance your checkbook.

Face it, the C libraries never defined asynchronous input primitives; they let
the unix ioctl mechanism handle it. ANSI didn't rock the boat enough to fix it
because everyone already had the necessary primitives available from their GUI,
whether it be X, Win3, or the Toolbox.

Besides, where would you add it to the system that _wouldn't_ make it a hack?
I think I'll write a rdkey() function or something that simulates your favorite
key reading code but uses the Event Manager instead of going direct. Heck, I'm
going to need it soon in LHG anyway...

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 1 Oct 1992 08:23:07 MST
From: <AUJGH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Downloading/ARC files/ProTERM


In article <1992Oct1.004708.2659@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, schwarts@cps.msu.edu
(Steven Eric Schwartz) says:
>Here is what I am doing -- help:
>
   (stuff about binary xfer not working with kermit in here)
>
>All I get is errors!!!!!!!
>

  Sounds like you're using Kermit in CMS.  I was trying to do the same thing
a few years ago and eventually gave up.  There's a problem with the way
IBM packs its binary files that will corrupt the file when it's sent thru
kermit to your GS (don't remember exactly..).  The solution is to only
download text files (ie: binscii'd).  If you can't find the files you need
in text  format, look around for another way to get the files into your GS.
(ie: download to a mac first).  This is a real pain sometimes but I don't
think there's any way around it.

   greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: C Programming Environment for the GS
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:53:32 GMT
Keywords: C GS

In article <1992Sep25.143217.14741@quando.quantum.de> henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Well having now got my GS up and running, I'd like to do some graphics
> programming on it, I'd prefer to use C, so what's available and what
> do you recomend.

Up until last year, there were three possibilities:

Apple Programmers' Workshop C (APW C)
Macintosh Programmers' Workshop Apple IIgs C cross compiler
ORCA/C


APW C is no longer available.  You must have a Macintosh to use MPW
IIgs C.  Therefore the only option for one-computer toolbox programming
in C is ORCA/C.

ORCA/C is slow compared to C compilers on other systems (even with an
accelerator).  It is an ANSI C compiler.  The current version is 1.3,
which still has a few serious bugs (but much better than earlier
versions).  The author is presently working on version 2.0.


There have been rumours of other people writing and/or porting C
compilers, but I haven't heard anything definite.

> I have heard a lot about GNO, what exactly is included in the package
> and what does it cost.

I'll leave that to the experts.  GNO is basically a UNIX-like
multitasking shell, which is a replacement for the ORCA shell.  I
don't think it includes any compilers, so you'd still have to buy
ORCA/C (which includes the ORCA shell).
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:29:17 GMT

SoundREM, the sound utility for Foundation, hasn't been released yet,
as far as I know.  But Triad Venture is supposedly working on it.  Once
I get frustrated enough with sound resources, this is probably the one
I'll get, unless it's really pathetic (which I don't expect will be the
case!).

- Eric S.

--
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caused by network glitches and are not attributable to the author.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
id <m0mZDrS-0000ybC@crash.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 92 22: 41 PDT
	id <ir81300@pro-nbs.acme.fred.org>; Sun, 27 Sep 92 22: 35 PDT
	id <ir73950@pro-harold.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 92 20: 32 PDT
	id <ir68362@pro-cajun.cts.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 92 18: 59 CDT
From: tgeer@pro-cajun.cts.com (Tom Geer)
Subject: Re: Need new GS keyboard!  HELP!
Organization: ProLine [pro-cajun], Shreveport, Louisiana (318)865-6579
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 18:58:05 CDT

 
[tragic story of broken GS keyboard deleted]
 
> I need a new keyboard.  Does anyone out there have an extra keyboard
> they would sell me?  If not, can someone point me in the direction of
> where I might find one?
 
Give Shreve Systems a call at (800) 227-3971.  They have tons of 'em.
New, used, reconditioned, standard, extended - whatever you want.
And don't forget that Mac keyboards work just fine on the //gs.
From: EFLORES@ALBION.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Where is everybody...
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:40:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I want to upgrade my printer (I currently use an Imagewriter II).
Can anyone give me some advice as to what would be a good printer
for my IIGS?  Thanks, one and all!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:57:21 GMT


Paul Benson says "there are 2 programs that change raw binary sounds to the
proper format for the GS Sound Control Panel".

To which I say...

Don't forget about Triad Venture's utility that converts to rSound:
SoundConvert. It's a HyperCardGS stack that is really easy to use, fast and
efficient. Using it, it took me less than an hour to convert a disk filled
with sounds to rSound format. No diddling with sampling rates are required;
you just load your raw binary sound file into SoundConvert and then you just
click on the save button. SoundConvert also includes a Digitize NDA that
let's you digitize from within any GS/OS application and save as rSound.

And, for those of you who own HyperStudio, the latest version of Sound Shop
will also save as rSounds.

Joe Kohn
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:45:49 EDT
From: <KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: 1.AppleTalk 2.Fax/Modems

Today I borrowed somebodys Imagewriter to do some printing and it had a
network card installed.  I connected the printer to the printer port and
configured the GS for AppleTalk for slot one, but NOT slot seven.  My GS
printed to the printer fine, so when can a GS use AppleTalk without setting
slot seven to AppleTalk.  My hard drive is in slot seven, so the question
could be of future importance for when I use a Mac for a hard drive.

Also, is there a Send / Receive Fax Modem available
for the GS.  I need a fax machine, so I would rather kill two birds ...


Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: has tr been ported by anybody?
Summary: trade ya a crtl-J for a ctrl-M
Keywords: tr, unix-t0-II
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:41:37 GMT

	The unix box at work can do this probably a bit easier, but...
Has anybody ported tr to the Apple II?  I'm looking for a way to
replace ctrl-J's with ctrl-M's, and I've considered writing my own
but don't want to take the month to learn the file routines for
TML Pascal and make it look good.  There is a converter that will
strip linefeeds and add them, but that's not quite what I'm after
here.  Just simple, quick, and for all-out drooling make it an NDA
along the lines of GScii.  No sense not asking for the moon, eh?

	BTW: Proterm 2.2's editor used to allow the replacing of
control characters by finding a ctrl-P+character, but 3.0 doesn't
have this feature.  I looked it over for about ten minutes the
other day, and it looks like the whole editor has been gutted.
Pity -- the 2.2 editor was pretty powerful once you got used to it.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: Suggestions: GS stereo card
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:17:33 GMT

Standard tuning is the normal ensoniq state: bank-select and table-size are
equal.  Now, the esq frequency register is 16-bits wide, so values range from
0 to 65535 decimal.  If you decode the equations shown in the TB ref for
standard tuning, you'll discover that to get Hz from frequency register, you
multiply by 51 (this is supported by AZ which uses the equations and shows
that 1 (51 Hz) 2 (102 Hz) et al).  Therefore, the highest possible speed the
Ensoniq can play at in standard tuning is 65535*51 Hz = 3,342,285 Hz.


-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
 I dig: Apple IIgs, Rush, Tiny Toons, Ren & Stimpy, Dave Barry, David Letterman
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jjmcwill@mtu.edu (Jeff McWilliams)
Subject: Source code for a C compiler
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:17:13 GMT

Does anyone know of a place where I can find 6502 or 65816 source code for
a C compiler?  I want to port one to the Atari, supporting the 65816.
At one time I heard of a C compiler called Aztec C, but don't know anything
about it.


Jeff McWilliams
EE Engineer --> Michigan Tech. University     jjmcwill@mtu.edu

Treebeard says: "Let's not be hasty!"
-- 
Jeff McWilliams
EE Engineer --> Michigan Tech. University     jjmcwill@mtu.edu

Treebeard says: "Let's not be hasty!"
From: joe_luzzi@QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU ("Joe Luzzi")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re- 1.AppleTalk 2.Fax/Modem
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:33:40 GMT
Organization: The Internet


        Reply to:   Re: 1.AppleTalk 2.Fax/Modem



It's probably not endorsed by Apple, but I believe (in the case of a ROM 01
01 GS) you can put your High Speed SCSI or RamFast in slot 1 and still be
able to use your harddrive and AppleTalk.

Has anyone tried this, or have any negative comments?  :-) 


------------------------------
Joe M. Luzzi

CSU Fullerton
Joe@fullerton.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2