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From: brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #196
Date: 5 Oct 1992 16:17:34 GMT
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

In an earlier posting HANSEN@FREDONIA.BITNET (John A. Hansen) writes:
>Hi Folks,
>   This is, I know, not the best place to ask this question, but I thought
>someone might have an answer.  At our site the mainframe computer (an aging
>Burroughs) is connected to office PC's  in many cases by wire.  The device
>that goes on the PC end is something called a T-CON TDI converter manufactured
>by Computer Peripheral Systems of Atlanta, Ga.  The Unysis Corporation resells
>these to our college and gets $175 a copy.  This is one of the reasons that
>more Pc's aren't connected to our E-Mail System.
>
>   Thus it seemed to me that A. Perhaps there is a cheaper source of these
>things than the current supplier, and B. If I obtained a schematic (or perhaps
>reverse-engineered the thing) I could build one for a whole lot less than
>$175.  Anybody have any ideas on this?  Thanks,  John WA0PTV

Sounds like what you have is an ethernet tranciever. 'bout the lowest I
have seen them for is $125. You would probably also need the actual 
Ethernet interface for you computers...

Not that this has a lot to do with Packet radio...

So, a question...

Is there any KA9Q package that would allow for bringing up a connection,
probably a SL/IP line, if and only if there were traffic for that connection?
As in, if I had a computer on an ethernet, or a packet net, and wanted to
send traffic via LL, but didn't want to keep the LL open all the time, is
it possible to set up KA9Q or its varieties to dial on demand?

73's. 
Later.
Dan
(who is working on a ticket, and really should just go take the friggin' test
and get it over with!)

-- 
Dan Brown	
brown@ins.cwru.edu
From: HANSEN@FREDONIA.BITNET (John A. Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #196
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:08:27 GMT
Organization: State University of New York - College at Fredonia
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Hi Folks,
   This is, I know, not the best place to ask this question, but I thought
someone might have an answer.  At our site the mainframe computer (an aging
Burroughs) is connected to office PC's  in many cases by wire.  The device
that goes on the PC end is something called a T-CON TDI converter manufactured
by Computer Peripheral Systems of Atlanta, Ga.  The Unysis Corporation resells
these to our college and gets $175 a copy.  This is one of the reasons that
more Pc's aren't connected to our E-Mail System.

   I cracked open one of these T-Con's the other day and was surprised to
find standard 1488 and 1489 level conversion chips, a 76LS126 and assorted
resistors, capacitors, and diodes.  I figure if I purchased all the chips
and parts at Radio Shack (They might not carry the one logic chip, but even
so) the total cost of parts wouldn't be more than $15.

   Thus it seemed to me that A. Perhaps there is a cheaper source of these
things than the current supplier, and B. If I obtained a schematic (or perhaps
reverse-engineered the thing) I could build one for a whole lot less than
$175.  Anybody have any ideas on this?  Thanks,  John WA0PTV
From: johna@icsbelf.co.uk (John Agnew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Using the FT47 for packet
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:19:52 GMT
Organization: ICS Computing Group Ltd., Belfast

Hi all,

I have an FT 470 which I wish to use with my PacComm Tiny-2 for packet
radio use. So far I have managed to connect the radio to the TNC and
am able to connect to only a few stations. When I monitor my own
transmitted audio on a scanner, the audio is at a very low level in 
comparison to that of the other radios I use for packet. 

My TNC is connected directly to my FT 470 without any special 
interfacing and I think that it needs some interface to provide
audio at the correct level for the FT470.

Has anyone an experience in interfacing the FT 470 to a TNC, if so
I would be grateful for details of how you went about it. Thanks
in advance !!!




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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:15:02 GMT



In article <1a3cd1INNhhn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn) writes:

   It seems like several of the internet hams are now forwarding 
   Usenet/Internet/UUCP mail and news to packet.  

   Assuming you all trust each other, you could pool your resources
   and start sharing the load of hand filtering traffic.  For example, 
   once someone filters a news article, send it to other gateway sites
   as pre-approved so it doesn't have to be re-filtered.  

Many moons ago I suggested adding a field like "X-Amateur-Callsign: "
to email and new articles.  This would be done by hams for stuff
suitable to be forwarded automatically.

Many people pointed the obvious ease at how this could be forged.  So
what.  At least this is a starting point for trust and can be used to
seperate certifiable stuff from articles that are not suitable for
gateway.

jv

 _____
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 -----  MEMBER: League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: bj368@cleveland.FReenet.EDU (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #259
Date: 27 Sep 1992 16:43:18 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
Reply-To: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu



I am new to the area of packet radio and I have been reading
various radio mags such as Popular Communications.
I notice there are ads for software which run on a PC for
listening only, needing only a shortwave receiver.
I would like to do this first for a while before being involved
in sending (and therefore needing a license).
My questions are:   is there Shareware available for PC to
                     =translate= signals coming off a shortwave
                     receiver, packet, etc.?
                   
                   best recommended software?
                   what minimum type receiver needed?
                   how large memory needed for PC?
                   I only have a 256K Tandy at this point.
thanks.

--
            Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:10:28 GMT
Reply-To: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Lyndon Nerenberg (lyndon@unbc.edu) wrote:
: As for SB/EX formatting: just what kind of archaic software are you running?
: Those aren't NNTP commands :-)

Why not just run news on the radio using TCP/IP?
In Japan we've running it for more than 2 years and no technical problem
arises - we made it USENET-compatible and we use SMTP to encapsulate
news articles. Period.

W0RLI or WA7MBL or whatever (no offense intended to the authors) BBS
software packages are just JUNKS considering connecting them to
other networks. While legal issues still remain, I think there's no
reason why hams have to use those archaic incompatible programs.

Every time I see proposals of "censorship" or "moderated gateway" I
get disappointed. Isn't ham radio for cyberspace pioneers?
--
Kenji Rikitake, JJ1BDX/3 
<kenji@tom.astem.or.jp> <kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp> <...!uunet!reseau!kenji>
From: zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Packet software for the Amiga?
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:14:31 GMT
Organization: The .SIG research Department, General Enquiries Office

In article <chbeck-230992174247@chbmac01.el.anl.gov> chbeck@anl.gov (Charles H. Beck) writes:
>In article <zoltar.06o9@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz>,
>zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> I'm wanting to  get into Amateur Radio and Packet sometime in the near
>> Future, I have an Amiga 500 with 1 meg memory, is there software
>> available to run Packet on my Amiga?
>> 
`There is plenty of good packet software available for Amiga's. The AmigaNOS software for the Amiga is much easier to use, being multiple windowing, and multitasking, than the PC versions. AmigaNOS is a robust version of the TCP/IP based KA9Q internet software, and includes support for SLIP connections,newsmailer, and many, many other features. Also there are some good PD term programs, if your not up for tackling TCP/IP packet quite yet.'

Thanks for the info. As of yet I don't have my License, but I was really
curious as to wether I could or not, thats a huge relief. Is there anyone
willing to teach me stuff through email about Amateur Radio??

Cheers,
Grant (No callsign of yet! ) (I'm a callsign virgin!) :-)
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From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: New Packet User... I have some questions...
Date: 27 Sep 1992 14:26:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Are there any decent Packet BBSs for a unix box?
Are there any packet communications packages for a unix box?
Would you recommend running a Packet off a DOS (286) or (386) or Unix?

Please send all replies via email...
CW
From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: THENET X1G uploaded? where?
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:08:34 GMT
Reply-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

Is the source also going to show up on ucsd.edu??

What does anyone think about the possibilities of using the same trick
to put this code into a TNC-1??  It is written in C and not ASM, right??

bill    KB3YV

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From: teodor@proxxi.se (Teodor V{{n{nen (proxxi))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Source wanted...
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:48:27 GMT
Organization: proxxi

Hi there!

I wonder, is there a source code for the AX.25 protocol (One that handles
the communication as automatic as possible) ?
I'm building a computer, and I would like to have the packet radio 
capability in the computer. I have the HDLC/X.25 USART that one needs to
to get put X.25 data on the air, but I need the software to generate,
process and handle the data that's going on and off the air...
Any source that can handle the latest revision of AX.25 (The last I heard
of was V2.0) to 100% is what I have in mind...

			73 de SM0TVI / Teodor V.
E-Mail: teodor@proxxi.se

Please mail source or any ftp site to me directly, I don't read
this newsgroup so often.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: estey@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: <None>
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:08:50 GMT

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Carl Estey                  |  Home Mail Address: 276 Walnut Lane
Amateur Callsign:    WA0CQG |                     Apple Valley, MN 55124
                            |  Business Address:  Honeywell Inc.
Phone: Work (612) 542-5136  |  Flight Systems & Test Operations M/S MN15-2370
       FAX  (612) 542-6003  |  1625 Zarthan Ave. S., St. Louis Park, MN 55416
       Home (612) 432-0699  |  Packet: WA0CQG @ WA0CQG.#SOMSP.MN.USA.NA   
The nonsense here is of my own making - no one else would want credit!
From: mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Problems: TheNet X1G
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:47:07 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I've run into a problem with this version that I would be interested in
knowing whether anyone else has experienced.

Specifically... it is crashing.  I have tested it with 3 different
Paccomm Micro-Powers, and what appears to happen is that the bank
switching signal from pin 16 of the SIO is getting loaded down and
then the whole thing bombs. This is a guess based on the loss of the
flickering STA led, and a total lack of response from either the HDLC
or serial port.   Need to put a scope on it, but have not done so yet.

This symtom seems to occur right after a coldstart SOMETIMES.  When you
turn the tnc on, the sta led comes on solid, starts to flicker, gives
one bright "flick" and then dies... other times, you get the same thing
but after the bright flick, it continues to run.  This may in some way
be related to the specific tnc (??) and not the code itself... at this
point it is hard for me to say.. but I'd be curious to know if anyone
else has seen it.

Thanks,

Mark Bitterlich
mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
wa3jpy@wb4uou.nc.usa.noam [Amateur Packet Radio address]
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 18:17:26 GMT
Organization: Amateur Packet Radio E-mail Gateway  VE6MGS

steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn) sez:
>It seems like several of the internet hams are now forwarding 
>Usenet/Internet/UUCP mail and news to packet.  
>
>Assuming you all trust each other, you could pool your resources
>and start sharing the load of hand filtering traffic.  For example, 
>once someone filters a news article, send it to other gateway sites
>as pre-approved so it doesn't have to be re-filtered.  

Well, sounds like a great idea.

I have found timeliness of `regular' (ie, non amsat/arl/kep stuff) not very
important so your suggestion is quite workable otherwise as it could even take
a week delay for someone to moderate and not cause any undue grief.

I would suggest that it be better, under the guidelines of USENET, that a new
moderated group: rec.radio.amateur.to-packet for example, be created that
allows even wana-bee gateway operators a chance to perform these gateway duties
through the magic of moderation. The moderators duties would be to ensure that
interesting articles posted to the various rec.radio.amateur.* groups be
acceptable for packet operation, and perhaps even be formatted (SB.*/EX) and
possibly edited (remove any .sigs with company information) and be ready for
sending to packet. Messages taken off packet could also be placed in the group
as a means of `wormholing' packet bulletins as well as well as to provide
entertainment to the USENET community ...

Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-
Organization: Systems Group 97, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 08:29:35 -0400 
From: Aaron Wohl <aw0g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ftp site for Macintosh SoftKiss?

The SoftKiss software from the 73 artical is available from
akutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.35.1].
From: MCGEE@lecs.ericsson.SE (Don H. McGee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: TCP/IP over AX.25 transport
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:08:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: eds.01GPD6MMM40W8WZHBP
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Followup To: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Distribution: world

I am trying to build an AX.25 transport over which TCP/IP
can be layered. I am working with SCO System V rel. 3.2 Unix, 
and SCO (Lachman) TCP/IP. 

If anyone has any comments, suggestions, or criticisms, or
knows of someone that I should be talking to before I get too
far, please email me at ecudhm@erigate.ericsson.se or followup
to rec.radio.amateur.packet . 

Thanks, 
	Don
	KF6CJ
From: crh@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (Ron Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: KISS mode on Kantronics KPC-3
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:23:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvaac.1992Sep30.172310.16989
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA


I just purchased a Kantronics KPC3 low power TNC which I intend to use
with NOS (wg7j104), a FT-470 and an HP95LX for a fully portable TCP/IP
station.

In setting up the KPC3 for TCP/IP I found what I believe is a major
'bug' in the firmware (5.0).  The unit is designed to maintain the
current mode through power cycles.  If, while in KISS mode, you send a
param command to set txdelay (param <iface> 1 xx) or slottime (param
<iface> 3 xx) the unit will perform a hard reset upon the next power
cycle.

There is a work around, however, simply set these two parameters while
in the TERMINAL interface mode and then switch to KISS mode.  (Remember
to remove the param statements from your autoexec.nos file, the first
couple of time I didn't. :-) I also set persistence in the TERMINAL mode.

This info has been placed on the Kantronic BBS.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ron Henderson WA7TAS                    phone:  (503) 750-2439
Corvallis Site Telecom                       or HP Telnet 750-2439
Hewlett-Packard Co.                     email:  crh@hp-pcd (inside HP)
1000 NE Circle Blvd.  MS 4UP6                   crh@cv.hp.com
Corvallis, Oregon 97330                         hplabs!hp-pcd!crh
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JKASSER@STDADS.LAS.LORAL.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Packet Survey 1992
Date: 5 Oct 1992 08:06:17 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

 
3 years ago I did a survey of packet radio users. I'd like to do the
same again, and see how packet has changed.
 
Last time I received 195 responses. I'll summarize and post the results if
I get at least 200 responses.
 
Question 1 to Users
What computer, software and TNC are you using?
 
Please format your reply as follows (for computer processing)
USER COMPUTER     SOFTWARE        TNC     CALL (optional)
 
example,
 
USER PC 386       Best_Packet     ABC-123 G3ZCZ
 
Question 2 to PBBS operators
How many users does your PBBS have, what BBS software are you running?
 
Please format your reply as follows (for computer processing)
BBS  SOFTWARE     USER COUNT      CALL optional
 
example
 
BBS  BBS 3.1      27               G3ZCZ
 
The call field is optional, but may supply some correllation between
geographic area and equipment.
 
Please format the reply, so I can process the answers by computer.
 
Any info returned will not be used for generating mailing lists or any
purpose other than looking at the distribution of equipment/software
and trying to estimate number of packet operators.
 
Thanks
 
Joe
 
jkasser@stdads.las.loral.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: medin@manta.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Subject: HELP - looking for wnos4a9
Keywords: wnos4a9
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:27:03 GMT

 Anyone know where i can find the source for wnos4a9 on the internet.
73, ted
n6trf
Thanks in advance.
From: tommy@arghouse.UUCP (Tom Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Packet Station Listing
Date: 25 Sep 92 22:36:25 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: The Listening Post

Does anyone know of how or where I could get a listing of packet stations in 
permanent operation, either digipeater or BBS?  I'm interested in locating a 
network to depart San Diego for parts north.

Thanks

Tom

------------------
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Opinions expressed are those of tommy@arghouse.uucp.
From: davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: AEA PKT-1 ?
Date: 26 Sep 92 23:39:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

I picked up an AEA PKT-1 today at a swapfest, complete with docs (and I mean
everything--all the manuals, technical manual, and I-don't-know-what-all 
...) 

Anyway ... Does anyone know anything about this TNC? Is it upgradable to work
with higher speeds and these nifty new modes that I know nothing about? How
can I get ahold of whoever ad the upgrade if it is available? Is it worth it?
Any other info is of course greatfully appreciated: Advice, warning, or any-
thing. I'm new with this packet stuff. :-)

73

Buddy, KB5ELV
From: estey@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: <None>
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:15:32 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Carl Estey                  |  Home Mail Address: 276 Walnut Lane
Amateur Callsign:    WA0CQG |                     Apple Valley, MN 55124
                            |  Business Address:  Honeywell Inc.
Phone: Work (612) 542-5136  |  Flight Systems & Test Operations M/S MN15-2370
       FAX  (612) 542-6003  |  1625 Zarthan Ave. S., St. Louis Park, MN 55416
       Home (612) 432-0699  |  Packet: WA0CQG @ WA0CQG.#SOMSP.MN.USA.NA   
The nonsense here is of my own making - no one else would want credit!
From: john@goshawk.mcc.ac.uk (John Heaton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: AmigaNOS on A500
Keywords: Sigh....
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: john@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <zoltar.0784@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz>, zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:
|> Oh dear, Hmm.. sounds like I would be just a tad out of reach of using it,
|> seeing as I only have 2 drives and 1 meg of memory.. (sigh..)
|> 
|> Grant

Hmmmm, I thought it was just the UK hams who ran Amiga from floppy.  

I will compile a cut down version of AmigaNOS if you want..

John

G1YYH
From: au297@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Evers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Using the FT47 for packet
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:35:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au297@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Evers)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, johna@icsbelf.co.uk (John Agnew) says:

>Hi all,
>
>I have an FT 470 which I wish to use with my PacComm Tiny-2 for packet
>radio use. So far I have managed to connect the radio to the TNC and
>am able to connect to only a few stations. When I monitor my own
>transmitted audio on a scanner, the audio is at a very low level in 
>comparison to that of the other radios I use for packet. 
>
>My TNC is connected directly to my FT 470 without any special 
>interfacing and I think that it needs some interface to provide
>audio at the correct level for the FT470.
>
>Has anyone an experience in interfacing the FT 470 to a TNC, if so
>I would be grateful for details of how you went about it. Thanks
>in advance !!!
>
>
>
>
>-- 
> =============================================================================
> John Agnew,                  		johna@icsbelf.co.uk
> ICS Computing Group Ltd,     		...!uknet!icsbelf!johna
> Belfast (N.I)                		Gi6IRL@GB7TED.GBR.EU [44.131.15.11] 
>

 
   If you receive an answer to this problem, please let me know.. A friend of
mine is having a similar problem!..  Thx!!  :)
 

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