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From: Corp.Sun.COM!Eric.Arnold (eric )
Subject: Help me I am in hell.....
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:40:36 GMT

Original-Sender: Corp.Sun.COM!Eric.Arnold (eric )

OOBE-Relay@gnosys.svle.ma.us writes:
 > Original-Sender: nc313060@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
 >
 > This may sound stupid, but whenever I manage to get out of this mound of
 > flesh that humans have deemed "a body", I end up back in before I can
 > explore. Also, when it happens, I do it by accident - usually when I am
 > very tired. The last time I did in, I started to float up, so I kept
 > "grabbing" onto things around me to keep me near the floor. Just then, my
 > mom walked past me and went into the bathroom. I don't know what happened
 > next, but when I sat up in bed, I heard the toilet flush, and heard my mom
 > headed back to her room.
 > Astral Projection makes you feel so free. It's like you don't have a problem in
 > the world.
 >

Be happy.  You can already do something that some folks try for years
without success.  That's not saying you shouldn't explore and control,
but don't feel "in hell" -- consider someone who can't even get the first
experience.  We have to live life as if our "mound of flesh" is all that there
is to us.

 > I need to learn how to do it, so when I would like to, it won't be such a
 > chore. Can anyone help me?

Well, there are a lot of books on the matter, and they agree mostly only
about either the borders of sleep, or the ability to vividly visualize.

 > Electronic mail would be appreciated.
 >
 > Thanx,
 > Stephani Nichelle
 >
 > "....Hats, lots and lots of hats....."
Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
Subject: Re: OOBE or just vivid imagination
From: gst@spdcc.com (Gary S. Trujillo)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:56:07 GMT
Reply-To: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting

In article <1992Nov09.191818.23121@news.mentorg.com> garyk@garyk.mentorg.com
	(Gary Kaminski) writes:
> In article <1992Nov8.073403.4318@gnosys.svle.ma.us>, gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
	(Gary S. Trujillo) writes:

>> What do others feel on this subject - or is this debate going to just be
>> between myself and Robert?

> I hope only the two of you debate this point; meaning,I hope we do not use
> too much bandwidth on it.  For me, the out-of-body experience represents a
> tool to be used for spiritual advancement, not a science project.

I hope we can use a variety of tools available to use, including direct
personal experience and logic to get a better understanding of what the
OBE phenomenon represents.  However, if, as I am starting to suspect,
Robert McGrath is committed to the view that *only* a reductionist logic
is valid in understanding the phenomenon, I will cease to be a willing
participant in the discussion, and will leave that approach entirely to 
others who would completely exclude a spiritual or non-ordinary dimension
in their investigations (at present, I have no belief or leaning one way
or the other, though I suspect that OBEs can, at the very least, be tools
of self-understanding).

> I am interested in what others have experienced in the OOB realm and how they
> accomplished it...

As am I.

Gary
-- 
    Gary S. Trujillo                             gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts               {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
From: puc@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bernard Puc)
Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
Subject: Re: OOBE or just vivid imagination
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:16:00 GMT
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <BxJ03J.Cqx@cs.psu.edu>, cole@gaff.physci.psu.edu (Robert Cole) 
writes...
>  It
>seems clear that one of the participants involved is not interested in 
>modifying his model of reality but only in forcing all data to conform to
>it.
	This is a standard practise in rational thinking...one forms a
hypothesis, then conducts experiments - collects data, if the data
support the hypothesis then the hypothesis is upheld for further study.
If the data do not support the hypothesis, _then_ a new hypothesis is
held forth.  Therefore, data are always filtered through a set of beliefs.
But, a rational person should be aware of the interpretive nature of 
observation and be prepared to abandon the hypothesis should a better one
make more sense.

>I think it is regretfull that the anecdotal evidence for the validity of obes
>is apparently receiving so little attention.  There are those who obviously
>place zero value on such evidence but I personally find it to be compelling

	But the only evidence we have so far is anecdotal - and its
receiving a lot of attention.  The reason it is not given much value is
because it is too subjective and leaves too many alternative hypotheses
with equal validity.
	
-Bernard
Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: Tarzan, a lack of clues?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:23:30 GMT

In <9211120742.AA53560@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca> acs.ucalgary.ca!bishop
	(Lionel Richard Clark) writes:

>   Dear Tarzan,

>   I do not know where you decided that you are more important than
> the rest of us, but I wish you would tell us.  "All Eyes can see",
> sure, fine, but All eyes don't WANT to see.  Furthermore, we don't
> wish to pay for it.  Now, I am sure you have some finw things to say,
> but if you continue to CLOG UP GARY's NEWSGROUP with YOUR OWN PRIVATE
> MAIL then I can see our respect for you as a person diminishing
> rapidly.

Wait a sec, folks.  This is not *my* newsgroup.  Yes, I conducted the
vote, and yes, I created alt.out-of-body and its predecessor alt.oobe,
but that doesn't make them my newsgroups.  I am running a parallel
mailing list, and I am trying to make suggestions that I hope will be
helpful to some in conducting a methodical investigation of the OBE
phenomenon, but I don't have any special rights or privileges.  I'm
just trying to keep things reasonably tidy, but if someone wants to
disagree with my notions of order, that's OK (and it wouldn't be the
first time ;-).

>   What do you fear, that you will not reveal your email address?

Well, I'm willing to take Tarzan's statement that he doesn't know
anything about email addresses at face value.  It could even be that
users of the system he's using doesn't permit email - but I don't see
why that would be so.  As I said in a previous article, I've made
some inquiries of the site administrator at Bell Northern Research,
where Tarzan's account resides, and hope we can get the matter
resolved soon.

>   This newsgroup should become fully moderated, and allow NO public
> posting, same as Rec.Humor.Funny...

What do others feel about the idea of making the newsgroup moderated?
(No - I don't want to be the moderator - I'm too busy with other things.)
I don't know if an alt group can be made moderated - especially once it
has been created as unmoderated.  I don't think we've seen a clear need
demonstrated so far, though.

>   You are sentenced to be exposed before your peers.

Well, I think perhaps the sentence is a bit harsh, don't you, Bishop?
It's not clear that Tarzan is intentionally hiding anything.  I'd just
be happier if he could post articles without insisting on quoting the
entire article he's responding to.  But maybe he doesn't know how to
use a text editor, or maybe he has a crufty news system that doesn't
have access to an editor (doubtful).  Let's not jump to conclusions.

>   TEAR DOWN THE WALL!!   TEAR DOWN THE WALL!!   TEAR DOWN THE WALL!!

Which wall is that?  :-)

Gary
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    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: I SEE LIGHTS...
Followup-To: alt.dreams
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:33:58 GMT

In <002369c.39.720913401@ace.acadiau.ca> 002369c@ace.acadiau.ca
	(WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE) writes:

> Have you ever had the experience of closeing your eyes at night or whenever 
> you go to sleep and see patterns form?

Yes.  The experience is called "hypnagogia."  There's a good book on the
subject by Andreas Mavromatis called simply _Hypnagogia: the Unique State
of Consciousness Between Wakefulness and Sleep_ (Routledge & Kegan Paul,
London & New York, paperback edition published 1991, ISBN 0-415-05794-9).

I don't think this subject is relevant to our discussion, though, and suggest
followups be posted to alt.dreams.

Thanks.

Gary
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Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: Prunes
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:09:36 GMT
	<1992Oct31.180425.141460@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

Obviously an alien from outer space with no taste buds, n article 
swoodwar@zeus.calpoly.edu (Swo Odwar) writes:

<brad@buck.viewlogic.com(Bradford Kellogg) had the unmitigated audacity to say:
<>
<>Do you like them stewed or juiced?

<fried.
 
	Fried? FRIED? Good grief; this is absurd. 
	Next you'll be telling us all to worship bunnies
	or something....


	Prunes are obviously best when pickled....

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<     Gur bayl checbfr bs guvf fvtangher vf gb trg crbcyr gb ebg-guvegrra vg...
<		    Qvq V rire fnl vg jnf tbvat gb or jbegujuvyr?


	Look! LOOK! Proof that swoodwar@zeus.calpoly.edu (Swo Odwar) 
	is an alien!
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Prunes
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<ATAYLOR.92Nov5140936@gauss.nmsu.edu>
	<1992Nov6.233616.19906@viewlogic.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:53:20 GMT

Possibly a remnant of the Holy Roman Empire "Food Tasters Guild",
brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg) writes:

<In article <ATAYLOR.92Nov5140936@gauss.nmsu.edu>, ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) 
<completely ignores all forms of kumquats and writes:
<|> Obviously an alien from outer space with no taste buds, n article 
<|> swoodwar@zeus.calpoly.edu (Swo Odwar) writes:
<|> 
<|> <brad@buck.viewlogic.com(Bradford Kellogg) had the unmitigated audacity to say:
<|> <>
<|> <>Do you like them stewed or juiced?
<|> 
<|> <fried.
<|>  
<|> 	Fried? FRIED? Good grief; this is absurd. 
<|> 	Next you'll be telling us all to worship bunnies
<|> 	or something....
<|> 

<   Okay, it is time for you to start worshipping bunnies.

	You can have my toaster when you pry it from my
	cold...er...VERY HOT dead fingers...

<   p.s. Do you suppose bunnies like prunes?

	If Eva Chan were here, she might tell us that Russ
	said to say "Only if they are toasted"....but she
	isn't, so.....
From: guddt@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (David Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Nice new mailing list you may enjoy
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:45:54 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Summary: bing

There has just been a mailing list created at gu.uwa.edu.au called
blindingly-obvious-l.  This list may or may not be of interest of
people out there.

Mail listserv@gu.uwa.edu.au for more details.

David.
[DDT] Pink fish forever.
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These words I am singing now mean nothing more than meow to an animal - TMBG
Disclaimer: Any spelling mistakes in this article are all entirly my fault.  Any grammer errors spotted in this article were put there because I could.
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: cbj005@cch.coventry.ac.uk (The Mistress)
Subject: Not the killer begonias...
Organization: Coventry Poly/Uni(Take your pick)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:12:18 GMT


Arrrrrrgggghhhhhh......not the killer begonias...

I'm catching the next telephone box to the Outer Hebrides!!!!

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From: f1toyl@uta.fi (Topi Ylinen)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: ?????????????????
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:51:15 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <1992Nov9.184723.60560@cc.usu.edu> slgsn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Huh?


You can all find this creation of a mastermind in alt.flame.spelling

Newsgroups: alt.stupidity,alt.religion.kibology,alt.cascade,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.non.sequitur
From: slgsn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: POST
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:15:50 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


I WANT AN F-18
WHERE CAN I GET ONE?
HELP!
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: andy@b30.ingr.com (Andrew Brezinski)
Subject: Re: Cessna, Pipers....etc.
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:18:39 GMT

In article <crb2.720999557@Ra.MsState.Edu> crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chad R. Berthelson) writes:
>I would like some decent models (small, plastic ones)
>of General Aviation airplanes especially the Cessna 172,
>150/2. But just about any of this type of airplane would
>help.
>
>Chad
>
>--

Monogram used to make 1/48 scale Cessnas and Pipers.  You might try finding
an outfit that specializes in out of production aircraft or models in
general.

Andy Brezinski
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, AL 35894-0001
From: mfcdbarn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Darryl K. Barnes)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Revell Robotech Models from Dougram
Keywords: Revell Robotech Modles from Dougram
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello

    I am looking for the Robotech models that Revell put out a few
years ago.  Revell took Kits from the Japanese animated series
Dougram and reboxed them along with some kits from the Macross
series.  

    If some one has any knowledge of where I could find these
kits, I would really appreciate it if you would E-mail the information.

    Note, If someone out there has the telephone number of GTC in
Kansas, please forward that as well.

Darryl K. Barnes 
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: Cessna, Pipers....etc.
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:40:11 GMT

In article <Bx9LqA.HM1@fc.hp.com> chrisa@fc.hp.com (Chris Anderson) writes:
>From: chrisa@fc.hp.com (Chris Anderson)
>Subject: Re: Cessna, Pipers....etc.
>Date: 5 Nov 92 22:42:10 GMT
>Chad R. Berthelson (crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:
>: I would like some decent models (small, plastic ones)
>: of General Aviation airplanes especially the Cessna 172,
>: 150/2. But just about any of this type of airplane would
>: help.
>: 
>: <etc.>
>
>I  know   that   Squadron   lists   these   models   made  by   ESCI/ERTL   and
>Academy/Minicraft.  They are fairly common private aircraft.
>
>However, I have  looked for over a year now, and have not found a company  that
>makes a model of any Mooney  aircraft (the kind with the  'backwards'  vertical
>stabilizer).  Does  anyone  out  there  know of one?  My  father-in-law  owns a
>Mooney and I thought a model of it  (painted  like his and with his A/C number)
>would be a nice Christmas/birthday present for him some year.

ESCI and Academy makes a series of sports aircraft in 1:48 scale. The ESCI 
scale consists of only Cessna 172's (I think) while the Academy series 
includes Cessna 172, Piper Super Cub, Piper Cherokee 140. I guess these are 
the same molds as Revell and a couple of other mfg'ers have used over the 
years. When they were in Revell's sortiment, the series also included the 
Cessna Skymaster, Beech Bonnanza and <ta-tah!> The Mooney Super - at least 
if my memory serves me right (no guarantees!). In addition Heller has a 
series of 1:50 kits, a Cessna 150, a Piper Cub L-4 and a couple of french 
machines which name eludes me for the moment. Checkozlovakian company SMER 
did also make a 1:50 Piper Cub L-4, a remake (and clean up) of the original 
Heller molds, I think. Very nice kit. 

In 1:72 scale, a series of light planes has showed up and disappeard over 
the years from different far-east mfg'ers, the same molds, I suspect. This 
series included the 172, 172 floatplane, the Skymaster, Cherokee 140, 
Bonanza.

Hope this is of some help,

-=* Bjorn
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: Charles Bornhorn <bornhorn@panther.warm.inmet.com>
Subject: Police/Fire Model Accessories Wanted
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A728426A40011592@fp146.warm.inmet.com>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:18:34 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc DSG
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:17:13 GMT

I'm looking (as I'm sure others are, too) for accessories such as
decals, lightbars, sirens, firefighting equipment, etc. for
1/25 scale models of Police and Fire vehicles. Can anyone supply
a source? I saw a source (Ken's Hobbie in Hays, Kansas) mentioned
in an article in Fine Scale Modeler (Dec issue), but have since
found out that the supplier is unfortunately deceased.

Anyone have a good source? Somebody must make this stuff somewhere!

Reply via E-mail please, as I have no easy way to read this group
(I am posting on a friend's machine).

My address: leber@panther.warm.inmet.com

Cheers,
Tom Leber
Intermetrics, Inc.
Warminster PA

alternate address: tomleber@aol.com
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chad R. Berthelson)
Subject: Cessna, Pipers....etc.
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:39:17 GMT

I would like some decent models (small, plastic ones)
of General Aviation airplanes especially the Cessna 172,
150/2. But just about any of this type of airplane would
help.


I have found some of the already built type (expensive) in 
'Sporty's' catalog, but would like to build/paint my own.

Where would I try to get these?  Or are they even available?

email me since I don't read this much...

Chad

--

Chad R. Berthelson		Graduate Research/Teaching Assistant
crb2@ra.msstate.edu		Biological Engineering
cberth@abe.msstate.edu		Mississippi State University
Newsgroups: alt.models
From: chrisa@fc.hp.com
 (Chris Anderson)
Subject: Re: Cessna, Pipers....etc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:42:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

Chad R. Berthelson (crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:
: I would like some decent models (small, plastic ones)
: of General Aviation airplanes especially the Cessna 172,
: 150/2. But just about any of this type of airplane would
: help.
: 
: <etc.>

I  know   that   Squadron   lists   these   models   made  by   ESCI/ERTL   and
Academy/Minicraft.  They are fairly common private aircraft.

However, I have  looked for over a year now, and have not found a company  that
makes a model of any Mooney  aircraft (the kind with the  'backwards'  vertical
stabilizer).  Does  anyone  out  there  know of one?  My  father-in-law  owns a
Mooney and I thought a model of it  (painted  like his and with his A/C number)
would be a nice Christmas/birthday present for him some year.

Chris Anderson
From: James_Zuchelli@qm.claris.com (James Zuchelli)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Air Ships
Date: 14 Nov 92 05:22:21 GMT
Organization: Claris Corp

In article <9NOV199217531647@elroy.uh.edu>, st1pi@elroy.uh.edu (Paul Crockett) writes:
> 
> Where can I find models of airships (zepplins, blimps, american derigables 
> (sp?) ??? Ive been looking for years! (not real hard though). Does anybody
> have any ideas??  Thanks in advance,..    Paul
> 
> Years ago (circa 1960?) an american company made the goodyear blimp.  I 
think it was re-releassed a few years ago.

I think Revel had the Hindenburg out maybe 5-10 years ago.

James Zuchelli
-----
This is my personal opinion and not that of Claris Corp or my Employer.
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: POST
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:02:53 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. ASSD, Atlanta, GA

In article <1992Nov8.141550.60499@cc.usu.edu>, slgsn@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> 
|> I WANT AN F-18
|> WHERE CAN I GET ONE?
|> HELP!

Try Mcdonnell Douglas Aircraft. Their address is... <grin>

Seriously, We must assume that you meant 'a model kit of an F-18'.
What scale?
 
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From: tsai@hal.com (Finnegan T. Tsai)
Newsgroups: alt.models
Subject: Re: Request for F/A-18 Information!
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:41:24 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: molly.hal.com
Keywords: slgsn@cc.usu.edu wants an F/A-18

In article <1do6bnINNjoe@sportster.ksu.ksu.edu>, butler@sportster.ksu.ksu.edu (The Hornet) writes:


|> 
|> 
|> 			Hasegawa 1/48th F/A-18(A,B,C,D)
|> 
|>     Although I have not worked up the courage to build this model, I have 
|> taken a good look at the parts and can give you a good idea on how detailed 
|> the kit is.  WOW!  Hasegawa went all out on this kit!  The kit comes with 
|> white metal landing gear and metal etched parts standard.  The cockpit and
|> ejection seats are excellent.  The leading edge and trailing edge of the wings
|> may be positioned up or down.  All of the moving flight surfaces are seperate
|> pieces that may be placed as the modeler wishes.  The only kits out on the 
|> market are the A and C.  Both of these are single seat aircraft.  But the 
|> kit provides space for the rear seater as well.  Expect the B and D models out
|> by Christmas.  The kit includes four drop tanks (although you can only use
|> three).  The kit also includes an extra set of burner cans.  Both ejection 
|> seats are included, even in the single seat kit.  I could go on for pages on 
|> this model alone.  Most people don't have the kind of cash for this kit and 
|> won't buy it no matter what I say.  Those people who know about Hasegawa 
|> know what I'm talking about.  If you want to build a kit that looks like 
|> one you would see on the ground, this is your kit.  LDT and FLIR pods are
|> included.
|>     For extra detail, (like you really need it) Verlinden makes a detail set
|> that includes RADAR assemblies to open the nose as well as HARM and Sparrow
|> missiles.  One really cool ejection seat. and additional metal etched parts.
|> The boarding ladder in the Verlinden kit is wrong though, discard it.  
|> 			                              
|> 			Price F/A-18 A or C $50 to $70
|> 			      Verlinden kit $20 to $25
|> 
|>     The Verlinden kit also allows you to fold the wings like the plane would
|> set on the carrier deck.  The Verlinden kit will only work on the Hasegawa kit.
|> 
|> 	If you are going to build a model and can afford to wait, look into 
|> purchasing models by mail order.  We have had great sucess in buying mail    
|> order.  The prices are usually a lot cheaper and more so if you buy in bulk.
|> We buy from Discount Hobby out of Utica, New York.  Look into it...
|> 

I also strongly suggest the Discount Hobby Center. Think about the F/A-18 asks for
7,800 yen in Japan. 7,800 / 125 = 62.40. And Discount Hobby prices the kit below $60.
In general Japanese kits cost at least 60% more in the U.S. This is a real steal.



-finney


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