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From: stevens@cs.colorado.edu (Curt Stevens)
Subject: Re: 3 weeks in LA - Help!
Followup-To: rec.food.restaurants
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:15:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.002919.29910@PacBell.COM>, kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM
(Keyvan Behnia) wrote:
> 
> 
> would be grateful for other hole in the wall recommendations.
> Anything from Pasta to indian food to Breakfast joints is will be appreciated.

Most of these places don't qualify as "hole in the wall" locations but they
all have excellent food (IMHO)...

Tommy Tang's  7473 Melrose Ave. 651-1810 (great dinner)

La Chaumiere 277-2000 (beautiful, tasty and pricy french cuisine)

Geoffrey's (in Malibu) great brunch with a beautiful view of Malibu beach.
Go to this place on a clear morning or afternoon. 27400 Pacific Coast
Highway 457-1519

El Patio (a hole in the wall if there ever was one) Tex Mex 

A great sushi bar who's name I can't remember. Go to Westwood and find
Beverly Glenn Canyon & Sunset Bl. Go up the canyon into the hills (I used
to call them mountains until I moved to Colorado :->). Just before you get
to Mulholland Drive there is a little shopping center in which you will
find the sushi bar. There are no other shopping centers between Sunset so
it should be very easy to find. This place has truly wonderful food. You
may have to put up with seeing some Hollywood types, but the food is well
worth it.

Carney's: This is a chili burger & dog place that is located in an old
railroad car. It is located on Sunset Bl in the heart of Hollyweird. I
can't remember the exact address, but the drive through Sunset is well
worth the search. Highly recommended as a break from the Tommy's scene.
(There is also one in the valley on Ventura Drive somewhere. The food there
is just as good, but the Hollywood location is MUCH better for the
ambiance.

Have fun !!!!

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From: howard@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Howard Lem)
Subject: Re: Toronto
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:45:54 GMT

In article <1jjr7kINN45o@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:
>
>Toronto has the 3rd largest Chinatown in North America...
>Great ethnic food everywhere....and brewpubs galore..
>-- 
>Ted....

Besides San Francisco, which other city has a larger chinatown than Toronto.

Don't forget, Metropolitan Toronto really has three chinatowns or 5 if you
count Mississauga's and the mushrooming chinatown in York region.  

Vancouver, LA, Chicago & Montreal all have smaller chinatowns.
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Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: stevens@cs.colorado.edu (Curt Stevens)
Subject: Re: 3 weeks in LA - Help!
Followup-To: rec.food.restaurants
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:01:31 GMT

In article <23269@venera.isi.edu>, jlacoss@isi.edu (Jeff LaCoss) wrote:
> 
> 
>  ALL NIGHTERS:
> 
>  The Pantry. (I wander downtown til I find it.)
>  An institution in LA.
>  Have a LATE dinner or an EARLY breakfast (3-4 AM).  It's neat. They
> couldn't close at curfew during the riots - they don't have locks on
> the doors! The coppers just left them alone.

YES, YES. I've been there more times than I can count. I recommend the
breakfast!!!!!!!


> 
>  Tommy's. (Beverly Bl. @ Rampart)
>  Great, scuzzy, fast burgers - I used to get them to settle hangovers.

Tommy's is truly great. There are about 15 of these in LA and you can check
the phone book when you get out there for the location nearest you. The
Rampart location is the original. No seating, but great chili burgers. Many
of the other ones actually have seating which is convenient if you plan on
eating several burgers (I always go there when I "go back home").


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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Ed DeBevik's was Re: Chicago
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:49:08 GMT

In article 4133@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu, hsternli@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Howard Sternlieb) writes:
>|In article <C184nG.As9@acsu.buffalo.edu> hsg@acsu.buffalo.edu (Heather S. Goldstein) writes:
>|
>|    Altho I've never been to Chicago, my son has and told me about a
>|Diner (sort of) called Ed DeBevecks or something like that.  Very
>|good, but prices are not in the old diner tradition.
>|
>|
>|>
>|>I am moving Chicago, specifically Lincoln Park, in June.
>|>
>|>I would like to know of any good restaurants or diners.
>|>
>|>All suggestions greatly appriciated!
>|>
>|>Thanks in advance.
>|>
>|>Heather.
>|>
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Ed DeBeviks (SP?) is a '50s style drive in type of place with the standard 
burgers, fries, dogs etc.  One good thing is that they make real milkshakes.
All the wait-people are aspiring actors, so they play up the role of harried 
waiters and waitresses in a diner.  They'll stage mock fights and give people 
grief etc.  it's kind of fun going there.  Don't know where they are exactly
but I remember the Hard Rock and the Limelight is right around the corner
from there. 

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Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: jcarroll@gath.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: DINERS! (Seattle, WA)
Originator: jcarroll@gath
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:48:52 CST


In article <1993Jan22.144257.12637@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu>, alekz@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Alekz Vermont) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.185613.29058@walter.cray.com> jcarroll@gath.cray.com (Jeff Carroll) writes:
> >The only *real* diner I know of in Seattle, Knights Diner (about a mile
> >or so south of Andy's), I don't recommend, although it's been there for
> >*years*.
> 
> you are forgetting the "Doghouse" downtown... if you've never been there,
> i suggest you go... the retaurant part is open 24 hours (if i remember
> correctly) and is a little expensive, but the atmosphere is right.
> 
> of course, the best thing about the place is the lounge with an organ bar
> (like a piano bar) which is still very "fab 50's" and the entertainment
> along with the blue-hairs make this a must go.  you will be inspired to
> drink martinis or manhattens there... (i had *my* first martini here--i
> couldn't resist)

No, I'm not forgetting the Doghouse, although I've never gotten up the
nerve to actually eat there, because Emmett Watson keeps plugging it in
his column, just like Larry King shamelessly sings the praises of Duke
Zeibert's.

Is the Doghouse a diner? Is 13 Coins a diner? Is the Beeliner a diner?
Is Denny's a diner? 

This precisely illustrates my point - there are greasy spoons all over,
but most of them are not diners.
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From: gil@cc.gatech.edu (Gil Neiger)
Subject: Re: Indian restaurants in Montreal?
Reply-To: gil@cc.gatech.edu (Gil Neiger)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:52:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.194244.25103@picker.com> VEMBAR@engvax.picker.com
(MANE VEMBAR) writes:
>
>There used to be a New Woodlands on Rue Guy (off Ste Catharines).

It was still there in August 1991 (I told the original poster that
I thought the name might be Madras Woodlands, but that's in New York;
and Madras, I suppose).

					- Gil Neiger
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: anne@cray.com (Anne Chenette)
Subject: Re: Turkish rest. -- ANYWHERE
Summary: please list
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:48:39 CST

In article <8!l398q@rpi.edu> akart@rpi.edu writes:
>    Hi !
>
>    I am looking for a Turkish restaurant in Albany. 
>     Do you have any suggestions ?
>

I'd like to know about any and all Turkish restaurants in North America.
(Easier for me to get to than Instanbul, right now...).

Here's one to start the list - my "local" Turkish restaurant in Madison,
Wisconsin.  (OK, OK, Madison is 300 miles away, but it's the closest one
to my home in Minneapolis, MN!)

	Hu"snu" 's (imagine the " over the u)
	400-something State Street
	Madison, WI

They have WONDERFUL Turkish food (try the chicken with peaches) and
also serve Italian pasta dishes.  If you're in Madison, give this
restaurant a try.

If you know of any other Turkish restaurants in the US or Canada,
please post or send email.
				Merciler,
				  Anne Chenette
				    anne@cypress.cray.com
				      or
					..!uunet!cray!anne
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From: alekz@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Alekz Vermont)
Subject: Re: DINERS! (Seattle, WA)
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:42:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.185613.29058@walter.cray.com> jcarroll@gath.cray.com (Jeff Carroll) writes:
>The only *real* diner I know of in Seattle, Knights Diner (about a mile
>or so south of Andy's), I don't recommend, although it's been there for
>*years*.

you are forgetting the "Doghouse" downtown... if you've never been there,
i suggest you go... the retaurant part is open 24 hours (if i remember
correctly) and is a little expensive, but the atmosphere is right.

of course, the best thing about the place is the lounge with an organ bar
(like a piano bar) which is still very "fab 50's" and the entertainment
along with the blue-hairs make this a must go.  you will be inspired to
drink martinis or manhattens there... (i had *my* first martini here--i
couldn't resist)

>I'd suggest that a diners newsgroup go in the appropriate
regional
>distribution, because most of the country won't know (or appreciate)
>what you're talking about. 

i think you are forgetting people who travel... if one is interested in
diners at all. they may easily be interested in diner's cross-country...

alekz

alekz@library.welch.jhu.edu
From: lake@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dr. Robin Lake)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: DINERS!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:37:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Reply-To: lake@po.CWRU.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cwjcc.ins.cwru.edu

In article <1993Jan21.002151.13142@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> hsternli@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Howard Sternlieb) writes:
>    I just wanted to start a little dialogue going here on Diners.
>I'd like to hear about them from all over the U.S.  I do not believe
>that there are any outside of the U.S.  They are more or less
>indiginous to the USA altho I wouldn't be surprised if there are some
>in Canada.

My never-miss diner is in Somerset, PA.  The Summit Diner.  Just turn right
at the first light after you get off the Penna Turnpike.  Great pies!

There are several diners-expanded-into-restaurants along the main N-S
highway south of West Palm Beach, FL.  Mostly Greek-operated.

There is a diner in Cleveland at Prospect and E. 40th.

In the Penna Dutch area, there is a famous diner.  Something like Galantin, PA?
Bus tours run there for Penna Dutch food, supposedly.

There is also a diner-restaurant at Breezewood, as you go thru the mini-city
that you can't avoid, switching from the Turnpike to the Interstate heading
south.  Good, but nothing exceptional.

In Toronto, on Bloor East, just east of Younge, on the north side of the
street in the shopping complex, there is a place that calls itself a "diner",
but ends up as a Hoolihans/Bennegans type of restaurant.

In Cambridge, Mass, there USED to be two diners just north of the MIT
campus.  "The Red Death" (real name unknown) and another on the south
side of the street (Broadway?).  The Red Death is long gone, but the
other may still be around if not urban-renewed.  There also used to be one
or two down in the wharf area by Anthony's.

Perhaps someone ought to start a "Great Greasy Spoon" thread?

Rob Lake
BP America
lake@rcwcl1.dnet.bp.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: jmemon@shearson.com (Janine Memon)
Subject: Re: Breathtaking Dinner Bills
Organization: Lehman Brothers, NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:05:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.135740.14316@emr1.emr.ca> thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen) writes:
>
>Out of (morbid) curiousity, I'd be interested to
>know what the highest sum y'all have paid for dinner
>for two, and at which restaurant? 
>
>My topper was $240 Cdn. at the Sheraton in Montreal.... 
>
That would be about $220 spent at Masa's in San Francisco and the same amount at 
the Mansion at Turtle Creek in Dallas.



					Janine

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From: wdh@faron.mitre.org (Dale Hall)
Subject: Re: Breathtaking Dinner Bills
Followup-To: rec.food.restaurants
Summary: Boy, have I got you all beat!
Keywords: food, expensive
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:02:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.171035.19979@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
		tipset@stkitts.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Scott Temple) writes: 
>In article <1993Jan22.135740.14316@emr1.emr.ca>, thiessen@emr1.emr.ca
		(Tracy Thiessen) writes: 
>|> 
>|> Out of (morbid) curiousity, I'd be interested to
>|> know what the highest sum y'all have paid for dinner
>|> for two, and at which restaurant? 
>|> 
>|> My topper was $240 Cdn. at the Sheraton in Montreal.... 
> 
>You have a long way to go.  I have paid over $200 just for wine or champagne 
>at a number of restaurants.  I had a tab for over $400 at One IF By Land, Two
>
>If By Sea in NYC.  About the same at Union Street Cafe also in NYC a couple of
>weeks ago - thank God for a per diem.
>
>My all time high was about $525 at John Dominos in Newport Beach, Ca - the
>champagne alone $250 (ok I had one tied on pretty good when I got there and
>ordered the best they had)....
>
>Scott T.
>tipset@cc.bellcore.com
>

Well, it's clear that I've got the winner and new champeen:

	$137000

How did I do it? Well, we were in Europe over the Christmas-New Year's
stretch, and happened to be in Florence, where we ate at the Trattoria
il Giardino.  Looking at the charge receipt, um, well it was Italy,
wasn't it?  Hell it was 137000 lire.

Never mind.
From: v4048npk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Charlie Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Natchitoches and New Orleans suggestions?
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:05:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

My SO and I are travelling to Natchitoches and New Orleans
in early April and we would like some suggestions for places
to eat--little places that we might not find if we weren't
looking.  We love all varieties of cuisine.  Please respond
by e-mail, if possible.  Thanks! 

By the way, if you're ever in Buffalo, NY, check out the 
Lone Star Fajita Grill on Hertel Avenue.  It's a grotty
little hole in the wall, but its Tex Mex is absolutely
fantastic.  (My favorite is the chorizo taco, but the
fajitas are incredible!)


====
Charlie Jones
V4048NPK@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Department of English
SUNY Buffalo
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: nat@megatek.com 
Subject: Re: Lunch in DelMar, Help!
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:38:34 GMT

In article <23257@venera.isi.edu> vickiemc@isi.edu (Vickie McCorkendale) writes:
>
>Next month my husband and I will be celebrating being married for 
>365 days. (It's not really an anniversary since there won't be another
>February 29th for 3 more years!)
>
>We'll be in DelMar to go ballooning and I'd like to go out to lunch before
>we depart.  We're looking for something romantic, not loud, medium priced 
>(<$60.00 with wine) with excellent food.  We like ALL types of food and 
>are always looking for an adventure. 
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Vickie McCorkendale


There's a Vietnamese restaurant in DelMar called "Le Bambou", it's pretty
good. You might like to try that. It's in a shopping mall on the corner of
DelMar Heights Rd & Mango Rd. Another pretty good one is "Spice Thai Cafe"
on Carmel DelMar Road in a new shopping mall.

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From: tipset@stkitts.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Scott Temple)
Subject: Re: Breathtaking Dinner Bills
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:10:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.135740.14316@emr1.emr.ca>, thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen) writes:
|> 
|> Out of (morbid) curiousity, I'd be interested to
|> know what the highest sum y'all have paid for dinner
|> for two, and at which restaurant? 
|> 
|> My topper was $240 Cdn. at the Sheraton in Montreal.... 
 
You have a long way to go.  I have paid over $200 just for wine or champagne 
at a number of restaurants.  I had a tab for over $400 at One IF By Land, Two

If By Sea in NYC.  About the same at Union Street Cafe also in NYC a couple of
weeks ago - thank God for a per diem.

My all time high was about $525 at John Dominos in Newport Beach, Ca - the
champagne alone $250 (ok I had one tied on pretty good when I got there and
ordered the best they had)....

Scott T.
tipset@cc.bellcore.com

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From: mh@awds.imsd.contel.com (Mike Hoegeman)
Subject: Re: Denver Area restaurants????
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems, Westlake Village, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:59:59 GMT

In article <6545@balrog.ctron.com> norton@olympus.ctron.com (David L. Norton) writes:
>In article <stevens-210193191907@voodoo.cs.colorado.edu> stevens@cs.colorado.edu (Curt Stevens) writes:
>>I would like to experience some new restaurants in my area. Both greasy
>>dives and nice upscale places are appreciated. Any clues???????

I recommend the wynkoop micro brewery in denver. has great food even if you
are not a beer fan. 

-mike


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From: helgi@INSL.McGill.CA (Helgi Gretar Sigurdsson)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: HARD ROCK CAFE
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:32:16 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: INSL, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

I have only been on one Hard Rock Cafe and it is in Reykjavik, Iceland.
It's a very good place to start an evening, especially if you have long night
ahead.  The service is very good and also the decerations.  The only problem is
the price.  But the prices are not Hard Rocks fault.  It's just because food is
very expensive in Iceland

Helgi.
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From: shelby@oxygen.cray.com (Shelby Anderson)
Subject: Re: DINERS!
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:54:48 CST

Don't forget the famous Double T Diner in Balmer, Merlan. The last time I
was there our waitress had the obligatory beehive, white polyester button-up-
the-front dress, and wad of gum. "Whatcha havin', hon?" (chomp, chomp) Best
time to go is around 2 a.m.

There used to be one in Fell's Point (I think) that the movie "Diner" was
based on. Anyone know if it's still there?

Shelby
shelby@cray.com
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From: aperrin1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Andy Perrin)
Subject: Re: Vietnamese Rest in Boston?
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:43:02 GMT

In article <C1EwDn.84G@world.std.com>, tgc@world.std.com (Terry Carlin)
writes:
> 
> Anyone know of a good Vietnamese Rest. in the Boston, Cambridge, or
> anywhere west of Boston?
There's one that used to be called Cao Palace but has since changed its
name.  It looks like a dump but is quite good.  It also doubles as a fish
market.  It's on Commonwealth near the corner with Harvard Ave. in Allston;
if you're coming from Boston on Commonwealth it's on your right just before
Harvard.

Andy Perrin - Swarthmore College
500 College Avenue, Swarthmore, PA, 19081-1397 USA
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From: jdoak@lab4.smcm.edu (Jennifer L. Doak)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: D.C. Restaurants
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:59:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.162039.10003@sei.cmu.edu> wp@sei.cmu.edu (William  
Pollak) writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan6.190607.21209@walter.bellcore.com>,  
dfw@thumper..bellcore.com (Doris Woods) writes:
> 
> |> If not any suggestions for the following:
> |> 
> |> Morrocan
> |> Spanish or Portuguese
> |> Good Italian (Not touristy)
> |>> Chinese or Thai
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Thanks
> |>  Doris
> |> 
> 
> My choice for Thai in the DC area (it has been a few years since I ate  
there as my home is there and I live at a college), if you're looking for  
good food and aren't especially concerned about atmosphere is the "Thai  
Hut" in downtown Silver Spring, MD.  It had no ambiance, and was mostly  
carry-out, but was very very good.  The best Chinese I've had is in a  
small shopping center in the "White Oak" area of Silver Spring (And I have  
been there recently)...I'm bad with names so it is escaping me, but if  
you'd like to know it, along with the name for a really small Italian  
place also in Silver Spring (which I have been to recently), also little  
ambiance but great food, mail me and I'll find out....

jen

jdoak@oyster.smcm.edu

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