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From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:13:10 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <1992Sep26.235140.13869@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>
>I've always used 105 octane race gas in my Eisenfaust Vulture.  Count
>Gustaf Von Eisenfaust himself prefered to run benzene with the nitrous
>oxide injection turned up full.  I've found that the heat from rear

  As you know, BMW was heavily influenced by Von Eisenfaust's designs,
and still carry in following in their "K" bike manual:

"Warning:
Use leaded or unleaded gasoline, minimum 91 ROZ.  Fuels containing
ethanol or other oxygenates (e.g. ethers and ketones) or methanol may
cause driveability, starting and stalling problems."

And from the R12/R17 manual (1936 edition):

"The most suitable fuel is a mixture of petrol and benzol in equal
parts.  For the _R 17 sports machine exclusively_ such mixtures must
be used."

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| Dave Tharp                      | DoD #0751   | "You can't wear out       |
| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ridiculous M/C Engine swaps (was Re: Faster 1100)
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:26:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Oct6.172630.1465
Distribution: usa
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing

In article <1992Oct5.223842.2645@megatek.com>, randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
>   The same way it can be stated that a Harley-Davidson motorcycle presently
> holds the land speed record for motorcycles, or how they attribute certain
> companies with dragsters, when the engine resembles nothing that every came
> out of that company's factory...

The Easyrider Streamliner holds the current motorcycle LSR and used dual
Shovel stroker engines.  Most of the engine parts were off-the-shelf
aftermarket parts that thousands of folks bolt onto their Harley Davidson
motorcycles...

- Roid
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 09:01:42 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

I live 6 miles from work, and it takes either 25 minutes if I take the
bumpy, stop-light ridden, city streets, or 15 minutes if I take I66,
where at least I can hit DoD nominal speed for a couple minutes towards
the end of the ride.

Steve Mansfield	    | The system we've learned says we're equal under law
smm@uunet.uu.net    | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
1983 Suzuki GS550E  | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
DoD# 1718	    | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
Queensryche	    -       Speak the Word.
From: sievertl@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lisa Sieverts)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 18:52:22 GMT
Subject: Unifying Principles of Life and Sport
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

I think this was written more for skiing than motorcycling, but
these seem like useful principles none the less:


Unifying Principles of Life and Sports

Slide and Relax at the same time.

If you're not falling, you're not learning.

Find the Most Direct Path by feeling it, and Go That Way.

Prepare yourself well enough so that you're in perfect
balance at all times, and can improvise if necessary.

Recover quickly from the unexpected or unfortunate,
and get your balance back.

Have excellent eyesight and use it to watch carefully--keep
your focus on the immediate path in front of you as well as
on your goal.

If you encounter a problem, don't avoid it, but deal with 
it directly.

Conversely, if you see an opportunity present itself, don't
let it get away from you.

Get the best tools and equipment that you can afford, and
develop the specific skills and strenghts for the job
you're trying to accomplish.

Know yourself well enough to understand your own strengths,
and use those to the maximum.

Conversely, know your weaknesses and try to minimize their
detrimental effect.


*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*
Lisa Sieverts                                        sievertl@corp.hp.com
DoD#511
                          '86 Yamaha Radian 600

no wonder america is in such bad state, americans can post but not read
                                                              -Laxlsk$2o
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cgates@mitre.org (Curt Gates)
Subject: Re: Cheers to the new moto TV show!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:51:17 GMT

In article <1aadc3INNfve@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. 
Daker) writes:
> But it was so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.  Mindless drivel.  Crap.
 
I liked the attention to details. The trailer that the guys lived in had 
a lighted electric bulb outside the door (porch light), and inside, the 
old man had to shut off a fuel-type camp lantern to show how primitive 
things were.  They ran that inconsistency twice.  Looking at the credits, 
I thought I noticed a womans name as writer.  I guess she is going to 
describe father-son issues from first hand experience.  Maybe resolving 
conflicts with violence makes better TV after all  ;-).


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:02:29 GMT

joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>]joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:

>]> get a k75 and
>]>get a smoother bike (the k75 has the counterbalancer the k100 does not).

>]Counterbalancer? Isn't it just smoother because it's a triple with a 120
>]degree crank?

>my understanding is that the 3cyl bike has the balancer.

But why would it need one? A 120 degree triple is smoother than a 180
degree four by nature. Anyone got the shop manual handy?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tamiya model review
From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:06:17 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

I have lots of these Tamiya models, but since the RC30 and OW-01 came out 
a couple of years ago there's been nothing. Apparently the m/cycle 
manufacturers charge Tamiya too much to use the bikes they want to make.

BUT!!!! A new one (one month old) is the NSR-250 with REPSOL racing colour
scheme. Apparently another one is on the way - the HONDA NSR. Could this be
the wonderful machine that no bugger can afford? Here's hoping.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: story@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Doug Story)
Subject: Re: Repost for info on bike
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:51:01 GMT

In article <BvEA0B.Btp@acsu.buffalo.edu>, english@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dan English) writes:
>Let me try this again.  I am a first time rider interested in buying a bike.
>One I was considering was a Honda with a 250cc engine.  On the tank, it has a
>golden wing, and the word custom below it.  I do not know the exact model
>name.
>
>Anyway, it has 8100 miles on it and is in good working condition.  I would
>estimate it is no more than 6 years old.  It is electric start only.  There
>are no extra features on it, such as saddle bags.  It does sit 2 people, and
>has a 'sissy'? bar behind the seat.  Is 1100$ a good price?  What do you think
>I can haggle down to?
>
>If it matters, I am in the western New York area.  Thanx.

I think that 1100$ is way too much money. You should be able to buy that bike for about 500$ - 600$ if it is perfect.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flame Bait (was: Re: Drag racing)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 17:25:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 18050@research.nj.nec.com, behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.220558.27192@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>
>>Any one who rides a motorcycle without a helmet is out of their fucking minds.
>
>	(IMHO) Anyone who makes blanket statements is out of their [sic]
>fucking minds [sic again].  Please be sure to include IMHO as appropriate
>when you make a blanket statement.

Anyone who deliberately inserts spelling and grammatical errors into
their [sic not necessary, TYVM] posting for the sole purpose of
emphasizing such errors in another post is a pedantic jerk.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: body leans & swerving (was The DoD ERC (was RSS))
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:03:41 GMT
	<1a9u28INNm8e@fido.asd.sgi.com> <BvD4Hy.6A9@Caere.COM>
	<carlp.717970043@frigg>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com's message of 1 Oct 92 20:07:23 GMT

>>>>> On 1 Oct 92 20:07:23 GMT, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) said:
Carl> mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones) writes:
MoJo> habit you develop for all your turning.  It's fairly important that all
MoJo> your motorcycle steering be done with your hands and not body lean.
MoJo> You get the quickest response from the motorcycle and have better
MoJo> control over the rate and amount of lean.

Carl> Damn, Mojo, you were doing fine up until that last paragraph, which is
Carl> utterly wrong (IMHO, of course).

Perhaps you just misunderstood, Carl.  Body lean is an important tool
for controlling CG, and overall lean angle.  Leaning makes a
motorcycle turn.  Now take a step back to what INITIATES and CONTROLS
the lean.  MoJo's point, the MSF curriculum, and most riders agree -
countersteering or handlebar input is the key.  Leaning out or leaning
in will shift the composite CG and permit you to use more or less lean
to negotiate a given radius turn.  Leaning out is important at very
low speeds in tight turns where you have trouble generating enough
speed to keep the motorcycle from falling to the inside.  Leaning in
is useful in high speed turns for increasing ground clearance.

Carl> If you're saying that you should keep your body upright and steer ONLY
Carl> with your hands in normal curves and turns, you need more study.

For normal curves and turns, there is no need to lean in or out.  Just
lean with the motorcycle.  If you have to lean in to make "normal"
turns, you are probably pushing the limits (mechanical, personal,
and/or legal).  I don't think that I am telling you anything new,
unless you think that hanging off on every turn is an appropriate
technique for public streets or highways.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ducati 907ie vs. Honda VFR750
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:15:36 GMT
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA


> robg> I'm seeking the net.consensus (fat chance, huh?) on the major
> robg> differences between these two bikes.  A friend is trying to make
> robg> a choice between a used (slightly) 1992 Duc, and a new VFR.
> 
> VFR750				Ducati 907ie
> made in japan			made in italy
    by Honda == great quality     Quality's improving
> looks like a squid bike	looks like a really cool squid bike
    looks GREAT!                  Also looks GREAT!
> bike stolen for parts		bike stolen for entire bike
    Not likely!                   Keep it garaged when not in use.
> sounds like a Singer		sounds like a tugboat with open pipes
    Not with my Kerker!           Sounds good too!
> comes with cheap tools	tools?  what is tools?
    They don't need to be too     Never seen em.
    good since you don't need em...
> valves mortals can adjust	valves that mortals can pathetically drool on
    Valves you only need to       and you need to adjust them once a month!
    look at every 16k miles.
> "What's 'VFR' mean?"		"What's a doosateye?  Izzat a jap bike?"
    Very Fine Ride!               If you can't tell a duck from a jap
    Vee  Four Racer!              bike you need to read FAQ a few times.
> --
>              J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
>                           --> '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      Ahhhh.  A beemer bigot!  That explains a lot!  :-)

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
From: chrish@NAD.3Com.COM (lollipop)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Keywords: Get a BUELL !
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:41:31 GMT
Reply-To: chrish@NAD.3Com.COM
Organization: 3Com Corp
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:40:14 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Sep29.222359.579@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
> 
> you still don't get it.  the oilcompanies see non-petro based fuels
> as competition and they have they means and motivatio to buy up any
> patents.
> 
> 
>> : about, we're arguing about why we don't have hydrogen powered 
>> : motorcycles.  i say its because advances in technology are being held 
>> : back by the oil and internal combustion machine mfgs.
>> 
>> We don't have hydrogen powered motorcycles because they aren't currently
>> practical as replacements for gasoline engined equivilents.
> 
> do you know this for a fact?  or is it just what you've been told?
> 
> -- 
> -- bob pasker
> -- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
> --


Bob:
I think you've got woolly caterpillars growing in your head.  This 
isn't what I've been told.  As a rule, there are no Great Conspiracies. 
It's too hard to do this in a democracy with a nosey press and TV media. 
Here's a fact for you to consider.  The auto companies are going to 
come out with electric vehicles for California in a few years to meet 
the EPA rules for non polluting vehicles.  Perhaps you've seen the 
prototypes in the newspapers.  Hydrogen vehicles are also non polluting. 
If the oil companies and GM were in some conspiracy, why is the 
electric vehicle coming out?   Hydrogen is impractical now, 
but some car companies are working on it for the future.  Some problems 
with hydrogen:

1.  Efficiency - you generate hydrogen from electrolysis which uses 
electricity.  What's your source of electricity?  Nuclear fuel or 
burning coal (another hydrocarbon).  Every time you convert your 
energy you lose something. No process is 100% efficient.  Do we want 
to burn coal (and cause pollution) to generate a non polluting H?

2.  Hydrogen storage in the vehicle.  How do they store H in the 
Space Shuttle?  Large cryogenic tanks.  To store enough fuel for 
a good range, it needs to be stored as a liquid.  Very bulky.
Engineers are working on alternative storage methods.

3.  Venting tanks leak explosive H gas.  What happens in an accident?
Can you say Hindenburg?

P.S.  I'm not part of the conspiracy, but if you want me to be you'll 
have to send the cash in a brown envelope (large unmarked bills will do) 
to...............Dr. Doom
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:52:39 GMT

In <7751@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>Yep, from your own description I would say it was your fault.  If you hit
>someone from behind then you weren't leaving yourself enough following
>distance.  I know this is hard to do in New York, but on a motorcycle you
>*really* need to be parnoid about what the cagers are going to do and
>leave room to stop.

	Get witnesses to verify your story.  It's entirely possible that
their observations and yours are slightly different, and they may say
it isn't your fault.  My last accident involved me running into the
back of a car.  Witness and my observations were that he cut in front
of me and stomped on his brakes to make a left turn across traffic.  As
I was attempting to pass him (leisurely) at the time, he was only about
5' ahead of me when I saw brake lights.  Splat!

	How do I know the witnesses story?  I visited the police station
to make sure I hadn't been issued a ticket or anything over it.  The
record states I wasn't given one, and the desk officer said that the
only way they won't issue one for failure to maintain distance in the
case of a rear-ending is if witnesses testify otherwise to the officer.
Amazing what you do when a national background check is about to be
done on you, isn't it?  Until now, I didn't even care.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Faceshield fogging, what detergent to use?
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:08:49 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

Well, now that cold weather is upon us (temps under 40 degF leaving for
work the past 2 days), it's time to fight that most heinous of villains,
faceshield fogging.

Last year, the net.wisdom was to polish in a small amount of dish soap on
the inner surface of the faceshield. I did so, and all was good. Now, this
morning I tried it, and the stuff didn't work! The moisture from my breath
condensed in little droplets, which was nearly as blinding as fogging up
would have been! Needless to say, I'm convinced that the type of detergent
being used is critical. I've got no idea what I used (and I'll look under
the sink tonite to see), but it sounds like some work better than others.

So, which one(s) to use?
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Electric accessories, Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:01:58 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:

>Has anybody had
>any luck rigging up an accessory power supply on a bike
>that doesn't have one built in?  I bought a radar detector
>recently after being nabbed by a roving tax collector (tm)
>but had to return it when I discovered there were zero (0)
>spare power lines on my bike.  

Most bikes don't have hookups for electrical accessories, but
that's no reason you can't add your own.  You can either tap
into an existing line, or add a new one.  For instance, for
my radar detector I spliced into the power lead that goes to
the lights on my speedometer, since the location was convenient.

On the other hand, I connected my electric vest directly to
my battery, as it takes a fair amount of power, and none of
the existing circuits on my bike had enough spare capacity.
(A "circuit" in this context is everything that is connected
to one fuse, and the capacity is determined by the rating of
the fuse)  If you add a new circuit, be sure to add a fuse as
well, or else a short could cause damage.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What does "DoD" mean... ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:43:25 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

victor@canrem.com (Victor Kamutzki - user account) writes:
>egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>In article 25606@bnr.ca, space%bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:
>>>Mike White (m14494@mwvm.mitre.org) wrote:
>>
>>>: I'm new here.  What is DoD? 
>>>
>>>How about: Dicks of Delight
>>>  (at least, thats what my wife thinks...)
>>
>>egreen@laser% wc -l /home/egreen/DoD/Membership
>>     927 /home/egreen/DoD/Membership
>
>Wait a minute...  You keep a DoD membership list in your home
>directory??  What could that possibly mean???

Not much. Grok the output of the following command:

find ~ -name DoD.list -print<cr>

/u1/tcora/DoD/DoD.list

(a cron job fetches a fresh copy on the 3d of each month at 2:30 AM)
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: arturo@informix.com (Arturo Vega)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:43:39 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I'm not sure if it's possible where you are but here's what I did:

Late summer '88, got a '87 cbr600 (Hurricane) for $2300. It had been
dumped and was missing the lowers, but otherwise I could detect no
permanent damage. Came with V&H exhaust & non-stock Metzelers. It had
12,500 mi when I bought it and about 22,000 when it was stolen :^(
after about a year.

Mid-summer '90, got a similar Hurricane (same color even) for $1800.
Had been sitting for about a year and was unregistered when I bought
it with 9100 mi. I sold it after a year with about 19k mi for $2400 :^)

If your taste runs to sportbikes these are worth considering--I certainly
had no complaints (Including Mass to Louisiana round-trips a couple of
times.)

At the time I bought the second, I saw '87 cbr1000's advertised for as
little as $2500! This was in the Boston area.

Good luck, ride cheap,

Art
arturo@informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles