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From: digifix!sanguish@uunet.ca (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: Is ABYSS really 140 minutes long?
Reply-To: digifix!sanguish@uunet.ca
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:26:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.001736.29261@sequent.com> davest@sequent.com (David  
C. Stewart) writes:
> 
> 	I saw a listing for "The Abyss" in an LD catalog which states
> that it is 140 minutes long, but only has 2 sides.  How does this work?
> I thought the limit on CLV was 60 minutes per side!
> 
In rec.video.releases article <1992Apr7.001736.29261@sequent.com> you  
wrote:
> 
> 	I saw a listing for "The Abyss" in an LD catalog which states
> that it is 140 minutes long, but only has 2 sides.  How does this work?
> I thought the limit on CLV was 60 minutes per side!
> 
> -- 
> David C. Stewart                       	uunet!sequent!davest
> Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.		davest@sequent.com

I have the CLV version of The ABYSS, and it says on the back 140 minutes.  
I have watched it a bunch of times, and it is easily that long.

It is TWO disks though, not two sides, so there is no problem.

It also has "The Making of the Abyss" on the 3rd side.

A very cool movie.

Scott
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From: jtisdel@digi.lonestar.org (Michael Tisdel)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Mail order LD companies
Summary: Could you provide a list?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:34:28 GMT
Distribution: rec.video.releases
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

I've owned a LD player about 6 months now.  In that time
I've tried to buy CAV letterboxed version when I could.
Twice now, I've bought pan-and-scan versions of films and
later found out that there were letterboxed versions
available (_The Music Man_ is one).

To make a long story short (too late!) I would like the
addresses of mail order companies who sell LD.  I figure
these would have a larger selection -- and I might not
get burned!

Either post the addresses (others might like to have them)
or e-mail me.

I might also find a copy of the silent _Napoleon_ on LD
this way :)



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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal - Release?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:54:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Apr6.215451.9729
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Apr6.203228.28650@col.hp.com>, smb@col.hp.com (Sam Bauer) writes:
> I have been waiting for Heavy Meatal to come out on disk for years.

Keep waiting.  It's not coming out in tape or disk (pirate copies running
around notwhitstanding).

> I heard that some legal issues have kept it back.

The problem is the soundtrack.  Every group wants a piece of the revenues.
They just haven't decided HOW to split it.

> I heard that Showtime (or was it Cinemax) will be airing it this month.

You're going to hate this...

It was shown twice last month on CINEMAX.  No idea when (or if) it will
be shown again.

(Told you).

> Does this mean that the legal problems are now ironed out?

No.  The CABLE rights were arranged when the movie came out waay back when.
The problem is for the NEW media that has come up since then (laserdiscs,
CDs, etc.).
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New "Highlander" LD release question!
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:57:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr9.220352.4061@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com>, ken@batman.austin.ibm.com writes...

} I was at the local video store the other night and found "Highlander" in
} the new releases section. It had a new cover, but the back cover was the
} same. I checked the running time on it and it was 110 minutes. But the older
} release LD (with the original cover) had a running time of 111 minutes. 

} I can't imagine that they'd chop 1 minute out of the film, but does anyone
} know if the did? Surely it's just a mistake.

Rule of thumb: never take the printed running times as gospel.

I've found from experience that film running times tend to be rounded up
to the next whole minute, rather than rounded up or down to the nearest
minute. So, if a film runs 110 minutes and 20 seconds, they'll call it
111 minutes rather than 110 minutes.

Secondly, they might be counting extraneous matter (such as the distributor
logos, or the "Laservision" logo, or whatever) in one edition, but not in
another.

Thirdly, perhaps the *original* edition running time was wrong, and they
corrected it for the newer edition.

Lastly, sometimes the running times are just plain wrong. For instance,
the CBS/Fox edition of Howard Hawks' RED RIVER has the running time of
the trimmed version, when the disc actually contains the full-length
version.

} Also, there was no indication on the sleeve that this new release is
} letterboxed. Dammit. I wish they'd LBX'd it!

Well, that's a whole 'nother issue altogether.

} (I have a $5.00 side bet that Jerry Boyajian answers this post first!)

Given net propagation, "first" isn't quite so absolute.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: jsg@doc.ic.ac.uk (Jake Simon Gordon)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: ALIENS SPECIAL EDITION COMING?
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:10:21 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK.

In article <1992Mar31.101754.20788@jyu.fi> vmf@jyu.fi (Virpi Flyktman) writes:
>
>This is my first posting here,so I hope this comes through..
>
>When is the Aliens special edition going to be released in UK?
>Will it be for video or laserdisk?
>
>
>vmf@jyu.fi
>
>  
	April 21st look for it on VHS in your local shops !!! (can't wait)
If you want the laserdisk you may have to import as the UK hasn't really
discovered them yet.(some specialised shops may have some in stock)

	Jake S Gordon.
		jsg@doc.ic.ac.uk

----==== I only need to know one thing man, where they are !! ====----
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney)
Subject: Re: Letterboxed edition of M*A*S*H available?
Organization: Software of the Mist
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:18:20 GMT

>davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David) writes...
>} well, one of my favorite films/tv series is M*A*S*H. so i ordered it from
>} Columbia House. what i got was a rather bad transfer of it:  [...]

You may not like the transfer on the new letterboxed edition any
better.  Most of the film was shot through a green filter, so it
looks, very, well, green.  Not the sharp, distinct color variations
you may be hoping for.  The football game is an exception; it was
intentionally shot without the green filter (to fit the brighter mood
of those scenes).

The film also makes extensive use of zoom lenses, degrading the visual
quality a bit more.

In my opinion, these two factors are plusses, not minuses.  Your
mileage may vary.

boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free) writes:
>At any rate, Fox has done a letterboxed edition of M*A*S*H within the
>last six months or so (so it probably has digital sound as well). 

It does.  But it has the very annoying, not very appropriate, male
choir version of the theme song.  Sounds too damn patriotic.  I
greatly prefer the original, wild, spaced out, electric piano solo.
But I've not heard that since the original release -- anyone know what
happened?
 
 
Brian McElhinney			"Aha!  Pronoun trouble!"
mce@tc.fluke.com				--Daffy Duck
From: gt4824a@prism.gatech.EDU (Paul Beker)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: VHS - _Thelma & Louise_, Clubs?
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:59:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi!

Sorry to be so low-tech (in still using VHS) but I am a poor college
student.  Anyways, I have two questions that I'm sure are easy ones:

- Does anyone know when _Thelma & Louise_ will be released on VHS in
  the $19.99 - $29.99 range?

- Are there any especially good (in price, selection, etc.) mail-order
  VHS clubs (such as Columbia, etc.), or any to stay away from?

Thanks!
Paul
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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: long-morrow@CS.YALE.EDU (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: Re: Disney release policy (was: Fantasia 50 days)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:46:38 GMT


In article <1992Apr13.175958.27256@news.eng.convex.com>, datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
|> >I asked Sight and Sound about 101 Dalmations about two months ago and they
|> >said that they hadn't heard of an LD release date which meant that it
|> >probably wouldn't be out this year.  
|> 
|> I saw a TV ad that hawked VHS copies for ~$20 at a department store.

Yes.  Anyone who has a valid heartbeat can't miss the fact that the VHS
release is out now.  Notice that I said 'LD release date'.  Disney didn't
release an LD simultaneously with the VHS tape release.

					- Morrow
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal - Release?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:17:20 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.175005.9191@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ummorea0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gene Moreau) writes:
>
>held back though.  One thing, any version that I have seeen has some
>scenes cut out, specificly the ones where they two aliens are snorting
>the line of coke or what ever it was all over the ship.

Hmm?? The version I have (taped from Cinemax a couple of years ago)
includes this scene. Although there might be others missing and I
couldn't tell, since it was so long ago that I saw the movie in the
theater.

Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: long-morrow@CS.YALE.EDU (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: Re: Disney release policy (was: Fantasia 50 days)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:45:09 GMT


In article <1992Apr12.225318.12569@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
|> Question: I thought (with the exception of FANTASIA, which was specifically
|> said to be unavailable after this release) that Disney's policy was to wait
|> until the film had been re-released theatrically, then release the video
|> version somewhat later, and for a limited time.  However, when the film was
|> next re-released (I think the cycle is generally 5-7 years), the video
|> version would be available again.

|> That would be less despicable, I think.  I just wish they'd get the laserdisc
|> versions of THE GREAT MOUSE DETECTIVE, 101 DALMATIONS, and PINNOCHIO out (in
|> the case of the latter, again.)

I asked Sight and Sound about 101 Dalmations about two months ago and they
said that they hadn't heard of an LD release date which meant that it
probably wouldn't be out this year.  

Pinnochio is being re-released to theaters this summer (I saw the
trailer preview for it at a local cineplex this weekend).

Dunno about Great Mouse Detective.

S&S thought "Beauty and the Beast" might make it to video by
X-Mas time 92 but that was before BatB won 2 Academy Awards.
It is still playing in first-run theatres.

B.T.W. I've also heard (but it may be completely false)
that the ST-VI (The Undiscovered Country) video release 
(Paramount) is also being held until holiday season 92 so as to
make a big splash.  That often means that the videotapes will be
priced for 'sell-thru'.  Don't know about a LD release.

				- Morrow

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From: lmlidsky@athena.mit.edu (Lawrence M Lidsky)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Classic LD's
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:39:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr9.173939.4399
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I've just acquired a laserdisc player and am in the process of collecting some
of my favorite movies. Can anyone supply any information with respect to the
quality of the presently available pressings of:

a) THE MALTESE FALCON

b) THINGS TO COME.

Does anyone know of plans for new releases of either of these?  I'm rather
surprised to see as little interest as there is in The Maltese Falcon.  Is that
because the current pressing is so good?

FYI, I  bought  my player through compuserve. The price for a Pioneer 1090 was
$402.00, delivered to the Boston area.  Good price, I think, and no hassle.

Larry Lidsky    ----------------------- lmlidsky@mit.edu
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:30:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr8.134015.27944@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes...

} (does anyone know if there is a non-Criterion version of Dr S. that is
} completely letterboxed -- please let me know if there is and where I
} can get it!)

Yes, I know; no, there isn't.

In article <1992Apr8.134515.28107@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes...

[p&s vs. matting]

} Both techinques are less then acceptable in my book. In both cases you
} aren't seeing the film the way it was intended to be seen.

And who better to judge how the film was "intended| to be seen than the
director?  And if that director feels that opening the matte for a video
release is how he wants it, then isn't that how it's "intended" to be
seen?

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: jtisdel@digi.lonestar.org (Michael Tisdel)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Mail Order LD
Summary: thanks for the info...
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:02:29 GMT
Distribution: rec.video.releases
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

Thanks to all who responded to my original post
about mail order LD companies.  Now the only
problem is finding enough $$$ to get the LDs
I want 8)



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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Fatal Attraction LBX LD
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:42:40 GMT

In article <11323@mindlink.bc.ca>, Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:
> > I write:
> >
> > The ONLY Paramount disc I have ever seen with chapter marks is the new
> > "Apocalpyse Now". I was amazed to actually see chapters listed for this
> > thing, since Paramount has a long history of never including chapter stops
> > for some reason.
> 
> Obviously you've never seen either of the 3 Indiana Jones movies (they are
> Paramount, aren't they?).

No, I haven't seen them on disc (and I won't until they're all available
letterboxed). They would be Paramount releases in any case. I will still
say that chapter marks on a Paramount title are an EXTREME rarity for some
reason.

Paramount is just about the last major company NOT putting chapter marks
on all new titles. Pretty much anything put out by Image (FOX, Disney, etc)
will be chapter-encoded, and the new Warner, MCA, Lumivision, and all
Criterion titles seem to have chapters.

I've been fairly impressed with Warner's chapter marks -- lots of chapters
in good locations plus an annotated list on the back of the package.

                                         -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Fatal Attraction LBX LD
Keywords: NO CHAPTERS 
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 04:34:39 GMT

This is a brief comment on the new laser disc release of FATAL ATTRACTION
-The 'Paramount Director's Series' [#LV 12881-2WS].  The transfer and
pressing are fine.  The disc includes a 24 minute prologue by the
director Adrian Lyne and a 3 minute epilogue by him.  Before the
epilogue there is a 9 minute 'alternate ending' following the
ending of the complete original ending.  The director's presentation
and the alternate ending form a very worthwhile supplement to the
film, in fine Criterion-like fashion.   I haven't decided which ending
I like best .. that will take more viewings.

BUT, what is inconceivable and inexcusable is that this laser disc
has == NO CHAPTER MARKERS == !  000, nada, naught.  So you have to
search by time to find the beginning of the film and swiftly hit
pause or stop if you don't want to see the alternate ending.  There
isn't even any indication of where to insert the alternate ending.
What happened Paramount?  Somebody sleep through the mastering?
For this they ask $50!


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        Neurobiology Dept., P.O. Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
          "The only reason for time is so that everything
                     doesn't happen at once."
From: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: sweeney todd
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:57:31 GMT
Reply-To: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Distribution: usa
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Carderock

is there an ld version of sweeney todd available yet??
i've got a friend who claims that this has been released
but my local tower records hasn't heard of it.
company and catalog number as well as letterboxing
information would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance, 
and email directly to:
lito lucena
lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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 formerly: dtrc, carderock                  they wouldn't be defaults.....'
							bill's sister
From: kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:57:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr6.212533.9716@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know why Kubrick wanted it done this way?  I also read that he
> insisted that The Shining be pan&scan?  Why in the world would he insist
> this????!!!!
> 
> Steve


I was under the impression that The Shining was matted and for the transfer
they opened up the matte? Am I wrong about this?

John
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Is ABYSS really 140 minutes long?
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 03:50:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.001736.29261@sequent.com> davest@sequent.com (David C. Stewart) writes:
>	I saw a listing for "The Abyss" in an LD catalog which states
>that it is 140 minutes long, but only has 2 sides.  How does this work?
>I thought the limit on CLV was 60 minutes per side!

You're right about the side limit.  This movie is on 3 sides, not two.
You're also right about the length.

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                     doesn't happen at once."
From: ummorea0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gene Moreau)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal - Release?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:50:05 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <1992Apr6.203228.28650@col.hp.com> smb@col.hp.com (Sam Bauer) writes:

>I have been waiting for Heavy Meatal to come out on disk for years.  I heard that 
>some legal issues have kept it back.  I heard that Showtime (or was it Cinemax)
>will be airing it this month.  Does this mean that the legal problems are now
>ironed out?  Does anyone know if it will be released on any format soon?  If 
>you have any info, please post.

Well it's been showed up here on Pay-TV a few times now, The first being
about 6 years ago, so I don't think that it was leagal problems that
held it back from being released.  I have no idea what caused it to be
held back though.  One thing, any version that I have seeen has some
scenes cut out, specificly the ones where they two aliens are snorting
the line of coke or what ever it was all over the ship.
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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: <None>
From: ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:14:57 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Apr5.033432.27498@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>  
> First off, this isn't from strictly from LDN; a new company called Laser
> Craze in Boston ran a full-page ad in the issue (800 number, free UPS, very
> good discounts (some up to 25%) for various discs.)  In it, they announce
> that the JAWS lbx edition will be released June 11th.  (Along with the new
> CAPE FEAR, in lbx and P&S format.)  I think I'll wait for someone else to
> take the plunge and see how good Laser Craze is, over several months.  (I
> think I'll also think a bit about JAWS on LD; I like the movie a lot, but I
> scuba dive in Puget Sound once a month...
-- 

LASER CRAZE operates a "store" on GEnie, and from the feedback I've heard
there, the service couldn't be better.  They're relatively new, though,
so their in-stock inventory isn't gargantuan.  (Although the demand from
GEnie users has apparantly spurred them to expand their volume by a factor
of 10 over the last 4 months!)

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