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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: The Hand of Sutekh (was Re: More Theories...)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:46:10 GMT

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) wrote:
>In article <1992Sep6.142152.22838@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> HISC9016351D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert) writes:
>>And yes, can anyone out there explain the hand behind Sutekh's throne, or
>Don't think I've ever seen those errors, although I did see a farmhouse
>in the distance in "The Sontaran Experiment."

The Hand of Sutekh (tm) is very difficult to miss. It sticks out like a sore
thumb like some of Hartnell's botched lines that they don't bother to retake.
Toward the end of Pryamids of Mars, Sutekh stands up and someone's hand holds
the cushion down so that it doesn't fall off. I guess they did retakes when
the cushion kept falling off, so perhaps we shouldn't complain. Does the guy
whose hand appears get paid extra? 8-) I couldn't believe it when I saw it
the first time. It's not really a big deal, but it's pretty pathetic looking.

Tom

P.S. The Hand of Sutekh is a trademark of Sutekh and Son Inc., whereas
The Hand of Fear is a trademark of Eldrad and Co. LTD.
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Hello and some Questions..
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:35:56 GMT

In article <6vvn1fm@lynx.unm.edu> xoanon@carina.unm.edu (timothy k istian soholt) writes:
>danaf@rpi.edu writes:
>
>>.... EVERY Dalek story (barring the first one and,
>>if I remember correctly, ONE other), has been named "________ of the Daleks".
>
>"The Daleks," "The Dalek Invasion of Earth," "The Dalek Masterplan,"
>and "The Chase" are, if I remember correctly, all the Dalek stories
>which don't fit the pattern.
>
>-- Tim Soholt (xoanon@carina.unm.edu), The Man With No .sig

and "Mission to the Unknown"

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From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac)
Subject: Re: DOCTOR WHO THEME?
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:34:00 GMT

rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero) writes:

>Does anyone have, or is anyone working on, the DW theme in .ROL (AdLib),
>.MOD (Amiga), or any other format?  I've been looking for a while for this,
>but haven't been able to find one.  Thanks.

>Mike Quintero ( rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us )
>___
> * MR/2 1.04 NR * No wanna work.  Wanna bang on keyboard.
>                                                                                   
I have this and some other Dr Who and HHGTTG sounds, I will upload
them to a bunch of archive sites soon

--Zach  Zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu

There are worlds out there where the sky is burning.  The sea's
asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of sound.
Somewhere there's danger. Somewhere there's injustice.
Somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on Ace, we've got work to do."
                                    -The Doctor "Survival"
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: More Theories About the Doctor's Ag
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:35:34 GMT

Ford.Prefect@p0.f60.n310.z199.fido.nacjack.gen.nz (Ford Prefect) wrote:
>TW> P.S. I just thought of others: Romana's regeneration - why can she 
>TW> select her new body yet the Doctor can't

>The only explanation I can think of is that Romana's regeneration was 
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^
>voluntary, whereas all the Doctor's have been forced upon him by illness 
>or injury, except perhaps the first, but then perhaps his then current 
>incarnation was too old.

While you theory may be sound, or even correct, the original point was that
this and other inconsistencies are not proven by material in show itself.
I'm not saying no one can make his guess, I'm just saying there is no
definitive answer for many of these questions.

Tom
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: what are the latest DWM and DWB on the market
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 05:45:52 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Okay, a question.  Recently  managed to pick up DWM 189 and heard of DWB 103
available in Edmonton, AB.

On June 12, 1992, I picked up DWM 188 and DWB 102 on London's Oxford Street.

Question: what are the latest issues out at this time.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Long Die the 3rd Doctor (Pertwee,Ithnk
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:25:17 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

MC Flash X here.  Last night I saw 'Day of the Daleks' for what has got to 
be the eighth time THIS YEAR!  So, like always, I'm gonna post a message 
which will surely get people riled and on my back.  I am formally, and 
officially, SICK of the 3rd Doctor.  Our PBS station keeps running his 
entire series over and over and OVER!  I think I know every episode by 
heart.  In contrast, my two favorite Doc's, Tom Baker and Sylvester McCoy, 
never get shown!!  If  I see the Master and the Doctor battle it out one 
more time in his 3rd incarnation, I will shoot my T.V.  Does somebody know 
where I could buy or rent Tom Baker and Sylvester McCoy episodes?  (
Especially 'Image of the Fendhal', since that was the first Dr. Who I ever 
saw.  Until later, I'm audi.

Xref: sparky rec.arts.drwho:6039 rec.arts.sf.tv:3156 rec.arts.startrek.current:12984
From: davel@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Lord)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:24:28 GMT
Reply-To: davel@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Lord)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo

In article <BuCKvJ.DHK@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>, neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld) writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.123152.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>>
>>If what quantum physics seems to be saying about how _thought_ can affect
>>the universe is true, we'd best stop thinking we WILL kill ourselves off,
>>or it'll come true.
>>
>    I don't remember ever teaching that to my students in PHY281S! Quantum
> physics, at least as taught in physics textbooks, does not say that the
> power of thought is sufficient by itself to modify the universe, other
> than in the obvious way that the thoughts modify the actions of the
> thinker.
>    Quantum mechanics has had some very strange things said about it, and
> this is one of the more common ones.
 
I don't know if Quantum physics has anything to do with it but a recent
example in the news shows clearly how thought can by itself modify the
universe. In the universe of five, ten, fifteen years ago it was common
knowledge that iron suppliments were good for you and that iron poor
blood was the cause of, well, gee, all sorts of bad stuff. Then about
fifteen years ago ONE scientist THOUGHT that maybe too much iron might
be bad. The scientific establishment branded him as a lunatic and
refused to publish any papers attempting to prove such a lunatic THOUGHT.
And so iron continued to be good for you and there was no evidence to
the contrary to be found anywhere. But over the last fifteen years
more and more scientists began to share this lunatic THOUGHT that 
excess iron might be bad for you. Once there were enough of these
THOUGHTS to reach critical mass the universe began to change, and
a new study suggests a link between iron and heart desease. Is this
the last word? Hah. Even as we speak the entire executive staff of
the Geritol corporation is sitting in a circle thinking with all their
might, "Iron is not bad for you. Iron is not bad for you." 

Only time will tell who wins out.
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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Deborah Watling
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:25:15 GMT

david@donald.concordia.ca (David Gaudine) writes:
>>> Not bad at all.  But the best looking is still Zoe.  Dark
>>> hair, elfin looks, cute smile, short.  She wins.
>>
>>Personally, I like Romana(Mary Tamm & Lalla Ward versions. :-) ) and Tegan.
>>Now THOSE are hot babes, IMHO. ;-)
>>
>Why doesn't anybody like Nyssa?

I liked Nyssa (physically atleast), but I don't think she was giving good enough
roles.  She was very pretty, but often acted more like a child than a woman.
I guess she was supposed to be considered young - though she seemed close enough
to be an adult to me.  Does anybody else agree with me?
	Mystic

(alex.soto@analog.com)
From: HISC9016351D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: The Five Doctors query
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:17:48 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

We all know how Tom Baker decided not to appear in The Five Doctors,
forcing Terrance Dicks to change the script.  Could anyone out there, if
they know, tell me what would the show have been like if Tom Baker had
actually appeared?  What would he have done, and how would the story
have changed?  Does anyone think the story suffered through not having
all the Doctors in it, or whether five Doctors would have been to 
unweildy, what with a large number of companions appearing?  Cheers.
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (rock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Immortal Companions:  The
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 11:47:16 EDT
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SD>From: sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley)
SD>Ahem.  There is something in _Doctor_Who_ that has been bothering
SD>me for some time.  Has anyone ever noticed that while there was
SD>no companion gap between the Doctor saying he was 745 towards the
SD>end of Tom Baker's Era, and Colin Baker saying he was 912 in
SD>"Russerection of the Daleks" (I think, or was it "Revelation?",
SD>whichever it was took place on Necros).  
SD>
SD>Consider the following information:
SD>	1.  Adric was a companion when the Doctor said he was 745
SD>	2.  Adric was still young when Tegan came on board.
SD>	3.  Tegan was maybe (at most) three years older when she
SD>	    left the Doctor's company
SD>	4.  Apparently almost no time took place between 
SD>	    the episode in which Tegan left ("Revelation of the
SD>	    Daleks"--or whatever the name of the episode that had
SD>	    Davros escaping from prison) and "Planet of Fire" in
SD>	    which Peri joined (This can be inferred from both
SD>	    Turlough and the Doctor's interaction with Turlough)
SD>	5.  Peri was at most a year older when the Doctor said
SD>	    that he was 912.
SD>
SD>From this information it seems that while the doctor aged nearly
SD>170 years, his companions, in an unbroken line, aged at most
SD>five years!  
SD>
SD>Thus the question arises:  Do the Doctor's companions age while 
SD>they are traveling with the Doctor in the TARDIS?

Ah, but the Doctor is, remember, a time traveller.  What his companions
percieve as linear time may not be what _he_ percieved as linear time.  Or,
more clearly, what's to stop the Doctor from sayying,  "Here, now, Perry,
pop over to the Circle K and get us a soda," and while she's gone, the
Doctor leaves and has a fling with some trashy little tart on a pleasure
world.  Well, after fity years or so of vacation, the doctor is ready to do
something interestinbg again.  He hops into the tardis, goes back to the
point in time-space where he left peri, leans out the door, and says, "Oh,
never mind, I have some kool aid in here.  Forget the circle K."

No more problem!


"Sometimes what you say is going to get right in the faces of the powerful
 people who really run this world, but you don't care....  You know it's
 your place to challenge authority...."

Rockerboy, digital artiste' (rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us)
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 * Amiga-Reader V2.00 * You, too, will be assimilated.
From: pjaffe@next06epsl.wam.umd.edu (Paul I. Jaffe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: current production status
Keywords: production
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:14:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

A number of pressing questions:

Can some tell me what exactly is the status of production of Dr. Who? 

Is the BBC still doing it or did they give it to a private production  
company or what? 

Is there a new season in the works or is it still on hold? 

Is Dr. Who dead? 

Is Sylvester McCoy still the doctor or are they now up to #8?

If there is a new season in production, when can we expect it?

I would be greatly appreciative if someone could answer these questions  
for me.
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From: mrmuon@next05pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: ALL OUR TOMORROWS: The Doctor and Causality
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:05:51 GMT

In article <2c3ygc@rpi.edu> danaf@vccsouth28.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana  
Jr.) writes:
> I agree with this assesment. If anyone here has not read John Peel's  
short
> "Scrolls of Rassilon" piece at the back of his Gallifrey Chronicles  
reference
> work, you really should. It's well-written, and in my opinion is the  
closest
> we're ever going to get to the "real" story unless the show comes back  
on the
> air.

Read "Cat's Cradle: Time's Crucible"
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sixth Doctor
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:40:25 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <18s11fINNef5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres) says:
> 
> <stuff deleted>
> 
 [ more stuff about Peri deleted]
 
>>>"A number of the Doctors were(are) arrogant only some are more arrogant
>>>than others."  .... Animal Farm - George Orwell  (OOPS wrong quote!)
>>
>>I suppose, but Davidson had very little!!!  And that fact that he was in 
>>between the Bakers amplifies it even more!
>>
> I can't recall any specifics, but I thought even Davison had his arrogant
> moments.

My local station just played Earthshock (hooray!  Let's Kill Adric!) and
while dealing with the Cyberleader, Davison got more than a little 
snooty.  Almost Campion-like in spots.
-- 

     -------------------------------------------------------------
               Lorna Payne
               Certified Math Geek and Grammarian
     -------------------------------------------------------------
     The concept is simply staggering.  Pointless, but staggering.
                         -The Doctor (The Pirate Planet)
     -------------------------------------------------------------
From: rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: DOCTOR WHO THEME?        
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 15:47:38 CDT
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Does anyone have, or is anyone working on, the DW theme in .ROL (AdLib),
.MOD (Amiga), or any other format?  I've been looking for a while for this,
but haven't been able to find one.  Thanks.

Mike Quintero ( rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us )
___
 * MR/2 1.04 NR * No wanna work.  Wanna bang on keyboard.
                                                                                   
From: quiz@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 08 Sep 92 22:23 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Quiz 6 results and now, Quiz 7
Message-ID: <-403778@nemesis>
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Nf-From: nemesis.UUCP!quiz    Sep  8 22:23:00 1992


<>
[0]3)  From "Terror of the Autons",  what do we know about the Doctor's and
[0] the Master's academic careers?
[1]
[1]    The Master graduated quicker than the Doctor.

Umm, the actual quote from the broadcast was, 
"His [The Master's] degree in Cosmic Science was of a higher class than
 yours [The Doctor's]".
How do you equate this with graduating quicker?  Someone got a 4.0 vs a 3.7?
Based on a statement in The Ribos Operation you might infer that The
Doctor was held back, but not from the statements in Terror of the Autons.

[0]4)  Which planet is Azal from ?
[0]
[0]    Daemos and no penalties for misspelling

I assume you based this on a novelization, and if so, not all novelizations
agree.  The Star novelization quite clearly gives it as "DAMOS".
ISBN 0 352 32382 5 (dual edition), page 83:
"They're Daemons* from the planet Damos; and that's a long long way from
 Earth." 
This was not spelled-out in the video, so a novelization is second-best.


[0]And Frank, I believe John Pertwee made an appearance on "Yes! Minister".
Nope, try Nicholas Courtney (The Briagdier), as a representative of MI5!

QuizMaster    quiz@nemesis.lonestar.org|"Why won't you let us give the
            quiz%nemesis@utacfd.uta.edu| Queen this harmless little poodle?"
	   ...uunet!utacfd!nemesis!quiz|
	   ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!quiz |Who said it and What story?


From: quiz@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:13 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Hello and some Questions..
Message-ID: <-403774@nemesis>
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Nf-From: nemesis.UUCP!quiz    Sep 13 16:13:00 1992


<>
[0]Q1. I have noticed that many of the Dalek episode titles have 
[0]    something to do with religion, eg. 'Genisis of the Daleks'
[0]and 'Ressurection of the Daleks' I was wondering if anyone could
[0]tell me if there is a reson for this, and how many of the titles
[0]are this way?

The full list of Dalek-related stories is:

B   The Daleks		  
K   The Dalek Invasion of Earth
Q   The Space Museum	      	(Only the shell of one is seen)
R   The Chase	
T/A Mission to the Unknown
V   The Dalek Masterplan 
EE  The Power of the Daleks 
LL  The Evil of the Daleks 
KKK Day of the Daleks 
QQQ Frontier in Space	 	(they appear in the last episode)
SSS Planet of the Daleks
XXX Death to the Daleks 
4E  Genesis of the Daleks   
5J  Destiny of the Daleks 
6K  The Five Doctors		(only one seen in first part of show)
6P  Resurrection of the Daleks
6Z  Revelation of the Daleks  
7H  Remembrance of the Daleks 

Only the later stories seem to be stuck on the pattern you suggest.


Frank Durda IV <uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org>|"I know one of the ways out!"
...utacfd!nemesis!uhclem (nearest internet) |
...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem	            |
...decvax!microsoft!trsvax!nemesis!uhclem   |Who Said it and What Story?
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: What's the difference (was Re: Vido info...)
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:43:56 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <920906.180243@3Mail.3Com.COM> Ric_Goldman_-C@hqops.3mail.3com.com writes:
<wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilsoeon) wrote:
<>ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) wrote:
<>>The Five Doctors (90 mins, movie format, minor edits)
<
<>So what's the different between a one-episode episode format and a one-
<>episode movie format (minor edits aside)?
<
<In this context, think of 'The Five Doctors' as a 4-episode "story", 
<with each episode having been transmitted separately, each with its own 
<cliffhanger.   For movie format, the episodes are editted together 
<without ending and opening credits for each, thus given the presentation 
<of a single story.  Frankly, I prefer the episodic/cliffhanger format.

But, in the case of "The Five Doctors", it was never originally produced in
episode form.  It was produced as a one-part story.  The 4-part version is
the strange version in this case.
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From: thomasp@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Thomas Payerle)
Subject: Re: ALL OUR TOMORROWS: The Doctor and Causality
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:28:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.002419.14818@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
> Ah, but you are making the assumptioon that Terminus is from our Universe,
>and that was not established in the story.  As Steve Gallgher authored
I have recently read the novelization of Terminus, and there it is quite
clearly stated that the Terminus was from another universe which was 
destroyed when it started the Big Bang for this universe (and therefore
this universe would have been destroyed to make way for a new one had the
Doctor not intervened.)  Of course, the novelization's answer to this
question might not be considered a "definitive" answer.

					Tom Payerle
					Terran Sales Representative
					Big Sam's Anatomical Warehouse
					"Don't pay an arm and a leg
					 for an arm and a leg.
					 Go to Big Sam's!"

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Serial Codes: 7O or 7Q?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:49:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.212013.4196@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
>Help!
>
>What is the proper BBS serial code for Ghost Light? While the list I ftp'd
>written by Lee Booth says it is 7Q, Lofficier's Terrestrial Index lists it
>at 7O. O doesn't seem to be a very popular letter; the only [other] O's
>listed are OO and OOO.
>
>If anyone can set me straight on this, it would be much appreciated.
>
>					- greg

I can try.  Ghost Light is serial Q as in quotation, the last story
recorded to date.

An interesting sidelight about that story.  During recording of Season
26, after work on Survival was done and Sylvester was free for a weekend
(with only Ghost Light to go), he came to a convention in my area,
PolarisCon I, (and my personal favorite con of all time, because it was
SO casual....I kept bumping into the guests all over the hotel literally
by accident!)  Anyway, one of teh other guests at the Con was Walter
Koenig (Chekov of ST:TOS), and he and Sylvester got to talking through
the Con, and Koenig let it slip that he was going to be in London
that next weekend, (I don't know what).  
And at the Closing Ceremonies, Sylvester said he had invited Walter to
come and visit the set of Ghost Light then, and apparantly Walter had
said "yes."  Sylvester joked it was so Walter could learn how to make
Star Trek better...:)
Anyway, I have never heard if Walter followed through on this or not,
but all the indications I have read would suggest he didn't (DWM's
recent archive finally setting things to rest in my mind).
If anyone out there knows more than I do on this, could you let us know?