HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: various ?
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:35:04 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <9208310759.AA04904@dalek.mwc.com>, bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger) writes:
>> I've also send this man files to MWC, maybe they have added them to
>> the WNEWS distribution on MWCBBS. However, I haven't recompile the
>> package under 4.0 yet, I'm still running the 286 binaries. Maybe
>> there are problems if you try to install it under 4.0.
> 
> With very little work, the wnews package, tass and vn all compile
> and run under 4.0.

I'd be very grateful if you could tell us what "with very little
work" entails.  Since I've upgraded to 4.0 I have been without
any news at all.  :-(

Cheers,

Chris
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Trying to port new cnews (performance release)
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:22:00 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law) writes:
[...]
: To get signatures with Elm, edit the $HOME/.elm/elmrc file and include
: the line:
: 
: 	localsignature=<path>/.signature
: 	remotesignature=<path>/.signature
: 
: On mine, I set both to /usr/greg/.signature -- or use .sig if that's
: the name of your signature file. If the $HOME/.elm/elmrc hasn't been
: created, run Elm, press 'o' for options, then press '>' to save the
: current configuration. You can change some of the options from within
: the options screen (set User level to Expert User to see more commands on
: the menu), although you'll have to edit the elmrc file directly to get
: to all of the options. I'm not sure how to specify the organization, and
: I don't see it mentioned in the documentation files.

Change to $HOME/.elm and create a file named elmheaders. My file looks
like these:
Organization: umunk (private)
Phone: +49 2131 275348
Operating System: `unames -srv`
This is the recommended contents from one of the manuals.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: Re: anybody care to share thier opinions on the new
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:09:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.234912.3630@spcvxb.spc.edu> mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>In addition, the system absolutely refused to boot off the installation
>disk until I disabled my SRAM cache controller on my 486.  Is anyone
>else having this problem?  Coherent 3.2 cohabitated with my cache
>without any complaints.

Had problems with 486/33 ISA Motherboard using OPTI chipset.  Board was
the TIAWAN special with AMI bios sold by JDR, Magitronic, and a host of
other folks.  Someone needs to ship MWC one of these pups.  Probably the
cheapest 486 out right now.

No problems with the 386, with and without cache at various speeds up to
40 Mhz.
-- 
Keith Smith          uunet!ksmith!keith            5719 Archer Rd.
Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: geis@miles.com (Jerry Geis)
Subject: library function tick() not found???
Organization: Miles Inc., Diagnostics Division, Elkhart, IN
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:32:15 GMT

I was trying to use the library function tick() in 4.0 
and the linker indicates that it cannot find the function.
I was looking (table of contents) in /lib/*.a and I cannot 
find it either.



Also,	How do you use the function call stty(), not the system 
command, to set /dev/com1l to 300 baud, 8 data bits, 2 stop bits?

Also,  The manual that came with 4.0 lexicon entry for stty (system
command) is not complete. For example, it is missing the argument
cstopb. Plus a couple more I cannot remember...

Any Help is appreciated!

	Jerry Geis      geis@miles.com

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: File Transfer from AIX or SunOS to COHERENT
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:12:02 GMT
Reply-To: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!djm (David John Murdoch)


	I have access to an AIX and SunOS and I've ftp'd
some files from raven. 

	Now I have to transfer them onto a floppy so I can
move the files to my COHERENT 3.1 (soon to be 4.0.1) system at home. 

	Can anyone who has had experience doing this 
AIX or SunOS to COHERENT transfer explain to me if and how 
it can be done? 

Any assistance would be appreciated.

David

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 David Murdoch * cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!djm * Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada  
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From: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: ScreenSaving?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 14:37:43 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1110.1 - Flying High!, Marietta OH

Carsten Deutschmann of 1:226/20 wrote to All of 1:226/20
on <Aug 21 at 14:38>

 CD> From: deutschm@lucky.lion.de (Carsten Deutschmann)
 CD> Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent 
 CD> Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

 CD> Hi folks,
 CD> I always liked the builtin screensaver that is in my 3.1.0-d Coh.

    I did  not know there was one!??  CAn you tell me more about it?

                        Thanks,
                       Bret Johnson

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INET: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: PINEAU@uqac.uquebec.ca (Louis Pineau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: File Transfer from AIX or SunOS to COHERENT
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:13:49 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Chicoutimi

>
> > 	I have access to an AIX and SunOS and I've ftp'd
> > some files from raven.
> >
> > 	Now I have to transfer them onto a floppy so I can
> > move the files to my COHERENT 3.1 (soon to be 4.0.1) system at home.
> >
> > 	Can anyone who has had experience doing this
> > AIX or SunOS to COHERENT transfer explain to me if and how
> > it can be done?
>
> From SunOs, this should not be any problem...
> Just fdformat the floppy and then use tar to write to it...
>
> On Your Coh3.1 use ustar to get it back from the disk!
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Ciao cad...
>

To copy from SunOS to Coherent, you should also use ustar because tar does not
recognise the end of media as the ustar command do, so if you want to transfert
files larger than one floppy, ustar allows you to use multiple floppies.

One trick I use to speed up the process is formatting my floppies on the sun
and using a block size of 18. The fdformat of sunos seems to use a interleave
factor of 0 or 1, I am not sure. But reading floppies on Coherent on that
format is much faster than the default format from fdformat on Coherent. But
there is a drawback! writing on those so formatted floppies under Coherent
take much more time than with the default format of fdformat under Coherent.

So, I use this way to copy files from Sun to Coherent. To copy files from
Coherent to the Sun, I use the default format of Coherent. Anyway, the Sun
read the floppy very fast, whatever the format...

Don't forget to use the raw device on both systems. It allows ustar to detect
the end of media.

'Hope this help...

Louis
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From: teddybur@netcom.com (John Sanger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: COHERENT 3rd party software
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:57:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

The list of 3rd party software for the MWC COHERENT 386 r4.0 is growing
rapidly as more software is announced everyday.

The folks at COCUNUT Computing, Inc. down in La Jolla, California have
accounced that their latest version of the Cocunut BBS package is available
for the MWC COHERENT 386 r4.0 operating system and it is available at the
same price as the SCO Unix and SCO Xenix versions.  So it seems that what
MWC says is true, software that is COFF compliant that is written to run on
SCO platforms will most likely also run on COHERENT and the commercial
software houses are beginning to discover that MWC has a very large user
base to cater to and they are eyeing it with $$$$ in their eyes.



Ciao!
	John S. :^)
	teddybur@netcom.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan)
Subject: utree bug?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:22:08 GMT

I obtained utree from mwcbbs. It compiled ok, though I got some warning
msgs, ' ignored, for example. It runs fine, but I can't seem to change
any of the variables from the = screen. I enter the new value, say OFF,
but after pressing enter the old value returns. Because autosave is on,
utree built a .utree file in /. I changed values there and rereun utree,
but it loads the default value. It doesn't change .utree on exit. anyone
know why this happens and how to fix it?
 
Tx,
Timothy.
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: HELP WANTED: gnu make port
Date: 03 Sep 92 09:24
Organization: Private Coherent 4.0.1 site Augsburg/Bavaria/Germany

vax@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vax) writes:
> While compiling gnu's make under Coh 4.0, I have some problems.  It seems
> the C compiler cannot initialize arrays of structures!  Can someone tell me
> a workaround?
> These are the errors I get:
> cc -DUSG -DUSGr3  -c main.c
> 216: main.c: cannot initialize fields

Change this:

>     unsigned int env:1;   /* Can come from MAKEFLAGS.  */
>     unsigned int toenv:1;	/* Should be put in MAKEFLAGS.  */
>     unsigned int no_makefile:1; /* Don't propagate when remaking makefiles.

To:

     unsigned int env;
     unsigned int toenv;
     unsigned int no_makefile;

Uses more space but should work.

--ralf
Xref: sparky comp.os.coherent:4070 comp.unix.sysv386:13672
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: fopen +a vs. +r bug or feature?
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:03:37 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <12923@ztivax.UUCP>, lauther@ztivax.UUCP (Dr Ulrich Lauther) writes:
| When I open a file via fopen(filename,"+a"), then fseek to the first byte
| of the file and try to read, I get EOF under Coherent, under SCO Unix it
| works.
| If I use +r instead of +a, it works on both systems.
| Who is right?

  A seek to the beginning of the file should work.

  Here's a little test program (yes, I know these few lines should be
posted to a source group, tough).

/* check if fseek fails on a file opened with +a */
 
#include <stdio.h>
 
#define FILENAME "_TestFile"
 
FILE *testit;
 
main() {
    char line[80];
    
    /* create a file and write one line */
    testit = fopen(FILENAME, "w+");
    fprintf(testit, "This is line 1\n");
    
    /* now seek and reread */
    fseek(testit, 0L, 0);
    fgets(line, 80, testit);
    printf("Line read: %s", line);
    
    /* close and reopen for append */
    fclose(testit);
    testit = fopen(FILENAME, "a+");
    
    /* now try an initial seek and read */
    fseek(testit, 0L, 0);   
    fgets(line, 80, testit);
    printf("Line read: %s", line);
    
    /* add a line */
    fprintf(testit, "This is line 2\n");
    
    /* now seek and reread the line */
    fseek(testit, 0L, 0);
    fgets(line, 80, testit);
    printf("Line read: %s", line);
    
    fclose(testit);
}

  This produces the expected result on Dell 2.2.
-- 
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    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: scholten@esseye.si.com (David Scholten)
Subject: cc:  redeclaration errors  -- Minicom/dmake
Organization: Smiths Industries
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:57:03 GMT


I'm trying to compile the latest version of Minicom and DMAKE.  They
compiled fine under 3.1.2, under 4.0.1, I keep getting the errors
of redeclaration of constants and/or procedures.  I'm using the
-VPSTR flag...what else do I need to make this work?

Thanks,
Dave Scholten
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Copying files to floppy disks
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:29:16 GMT

In <12939@ztivax.UUCP> lauther@ztivax.UUCP (Dr Ulrich Lauther) writes:

>In article <9208230118.AA01558@eola.cs.ucf.edu> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>>In article <01GNV2FPK56A8ZE6H1@delphi.com> you write:
>>
>>This is your problem.  If you use a single '>', each screen.tar.Za? overwrites
>>the previous one.  You need to use *2*, like so:
>>
>>cat screen.tar.Za? >> screen.tar.Z

this is also true under aix 3.2.x
but then i've never said that aix was real unix :-)


man cat
[stuff deleted]
  The cat command reads each File parameter in sequence and writes
  it to standard output.  If you do not specify  a  file  name, the
  cat command reads from standard input.  You can also specify a
  file name of - (minus) for standard input.

  Warning: Do not redirect output to one of the input files using
  the greater than (>) redirection  symbol.    If  you do this, you
  lose the original data  in the input file because the shell trun-
  cates the file before the cat command can read it, as
  described in  Input and Output Redirection in the Korn Shell.

>>
>>This _appends_ rather than overwrites the screen.tar.Z file.

>Not in real UNIX. "cat" stands for con'cat'anate, i.e. it is supposed to
>paste all the input files together and to write them as one file onto the
>output. That's also what the Coherent lexicon says.

bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
From: roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Best news systems & readers enquiry
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:11:48 GMT
Organization: Cameron Park, CA

karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow) writes:
> mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
> 
> > kilroy@acme.gen.nz wrote:
> >  
> > >As far as what software, I'd recommend the current Coherent-ported release o
> > >C News, in terms of robustness and reliability I've found it to be excellent
Okay...

I just spent a good deal of time getting all of GNEWS ported to
work on Coherent 4.0.1.  It is a lot faster than the 286 version
and I have kicked up the number of newgroups to 1024 (user
configurable) and the length of the news.group.name to 60 (also
user configurable).  I use TASSgn to read and It works great
under 386 and is fast.  Yet all of this code is very small.

Geoffrey....any comments???

Give me a few more weeks of running and I will upload the news
news SW to mwcbbs. 

BTW I also have COMB up on 386....adding features, but a version
should still work under 286.  As soon as the version is out of
beta I will upload.

Roger

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roger%neptons@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
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From: a10@server.uwindsor.ca (FUERST.D                 )
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: mind control?
Date: 29 Aug 1992 03:23:04 GMT

It's been a really long week, and my eyes may be playing tricks on me, but
just a couple of minutes ago when I booted Coh 4.0, I would swear that
I saw the message "buy cohware" flash on the screen for an instant.  It 
happened while the splats (i.e., /|\* etc.) were doing their little dance.
Is MW trying to drum up some extra business here?

BTW, I'm a psychologist, so I know that subliminal control of behavior is 
bullshit.  Either MW is playing tricks here, which would be amusing, or I'm
finally losing my mind, which would be even more amusing.  Anyone else 
noticed this?


                                                Darren Fuerst
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: newsreader info?
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:30:18 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:
: I have uucico working now and want to install a newsreader. I 
: didn't have much joy with cnews, not even the ver posted @ mwcbbs.
:  
: I've seen nn and tin mentioned and noted them @ raven. These are 
: readers, yes? Are both needed; do they perform the functions of 
: cnews- polling (w/ uucico), batching, expiring? How are they as 
: readers? Do they work w/ elm?  Will someone post elm to raven 
: /incoming32?

Tin and nn both are only readers. You need also one of the news packages
for polling, batching, expiring and so on of the netnews. At least you
didn't need both, one of them is enough. But they are both very powerfull
newsreaders with very different user interface. I've installed both of
them together with the Wnews package here on my system.
Wnews is much easyer to install then Cnews and it works fine as long as
you don't have to feed other systems, so I would suggest to try this.
How are they? Hm, for me this both readers are the best ones available
today for unix (like). Better you try both of them for your selfe to
get an idea.
In what way should a newsreader work together with elm?
Watch out for the version number of nn on raven. The last release
of it is 6.4.16, has someone uploaded this release to raven, or is
there still the old 6.3.8 release?
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4040 Neuss 1 | ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo | MYNAME=bbsuser
Fed. Rep. of | CompuServe: 100021,2515                 | login: uucp
Germany      | at first connect get ~/info  and ~/files| pwd:   public
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Where's all my memory??? :-)
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:22:12 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

root@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod) writes:
: But seriously....
: 
: When Coh 4.0 boots up the little information screen tells me that
: I only have 5860K free memory.  I have 8 megs of RAM and only
: 2 virtual consoles (though I have yet to figure out how to use
: them).  Granted, my motherboard might be stealing 380K or
: so, but where's the other 2 megs?

Take a look at the boot up message, it tells you how many buffers
are used for the disk cache. Mount a floppy disk, do some work
on it and wounder how fast it is, because there is no I/O after
some work on it :-)
This is where your 2MB are gone.
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Fed. Rep. of | CompuServe: 100021,2515                 | login: uucp
Germany      | at first connect get ~/info  and ~/files| pwd:   public
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Best news systems & readers enquiry
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:29:03 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

> Okay...
>
> I just spent a good deal of time getting all of GNEWS ported to
> work on Coherent 4.0.1.  It is a lot faster than the 286 version
> and I have kicked up the number of newgroups to 1024 (user
> configurable) and the length of the news.group.name to 60 (also
> user configurable).  I use TASSgn to read and It works great
> under 386 and is fast.  Yet all of this code is very small.
>
> Geoffrey....any comments???
>
> Give me a few more weeks of running and I will upload the news
> news SW to mwcbbs.
>

I really hadn't though Gnews was well-liked given the flame war of many
months ago. I had not given serious consideration to it for an
'installable news distribution' for fear of refanning the flames and
Geoffrey's request to pull his posting from mwcbbs.

Over the past few days, I've concentrated mainly on wnews as both a 286 and
386 (with separate 2/386 binaries) distributable news package, with vn and
tass as the readers, with plans to delve into nn and tin as time permitted.
I will wait for a 4.0 specific cnews to come along before I look at that one.
I believe that there will plenty of room on a single floppy for all
of this, and that there will also be room for gnews.

As I recall from my experiences with Gnews, it was necessary to edit
some headers to compile in system specific information. Will your
4.0 port still require this?

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From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: C news problems (help needed)
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:56:12 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Thanks for providing the original awk command for the tear script.
Unfortunately I know why the original scripts were changed after trying
your original, but it still doesn't work. What I just discovered is that
Coherent's version of awk generates a syntax error on print >hdr, and
again on print >body, so apparently it cannot handle output redirection.
It also generates non-constant assignment on hdr="$hdr" for some reason.
So it looks like I may need a better version of awk to get it running.

	-- Greg
From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: More Utree enhancements
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:09:51 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

For those of you interested, I played with Utree some more today and
and managed to get the line drawing characters working. If you would
like to make this enhancement, edit the /etc/termcap file and add this
to the ansipc entry:

	:G1=\277:G2=\332:G3=\300:G4=\331:\
	:GC=\305:GD=\302:GH=\304:GL=\264:\
	:GR=\303:GU=\301:GV=\263:

Then cd utree/src and edit term.c with your favorite editor. In this
file you'll see (I think) three occurrances of #ifdef XENIX and
#endif /* XENIX */. The first one is around the declarations for _G?
and the others are around assignments to _G?. Comment out these
conditionals (but leave the conditionals for AIX in place), and
recompile the source via make.

	-- Greg