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From: lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield)
Subject: Re: Truckers ARE professionals
Distribution: usa
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:33:08 GMT

In <1992Oct2.113157.8677@hemlock.cray.com> deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker) writes:

>                                       The truckers always keep right except
>to pass, why don't more motorists do this?

Errrrm, Bob, I'll take answer D: There is a strictly enforced law that they
must do so, the corresponding law for non-trailer vehicles is not enforced
at all.

Do I win a prize?

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From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
Subject: Re: BUSTED!
Organization: SSESCO
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:38:51 GMT

>A friend of mine got a ticket on US A1A for doing 80ish (75 to 85)
>yesterday...thats not that bad part...the cop was beign a jerk...and
>wrote up that the driver ENDANGERED the lives of the 3 passengers
>in the car & others around him....
>
>Can they do that? I got nabbed by the CHiPs and all he said was
>"Your going to fast...here is a ticket" <more or less>...and I was doing
>the same speeds as he was...

You bet he can do that.  There's a big diff between just tooling down
an empty road at 80 and flying around traffic, zipping between cars
through a road construction area, at 80mph.

One you are just going fast, in the other you are endagering lives by
driving like an asshole and should be fined more.

I'm not saying you're friend was driving like an asshole.  I'm just 
saying that they can do that for some good reasons.

If the cop truly though he was behaving in a dangerous manner (in 
addition to speeding) then fine.  If the cop simply doesn't like
your friend because he has long hair (or whatever), then the cop
is an asshole.  Chances are it was some of both, but I wasn't there
so I don't know.
From: damong@wpi.WPI.EDU (Damon Francis Gentile)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: ERROR filled ticket? Any case?
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:39:13 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Oct6.194737.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
>
>  How acurately does the trooper have to fill out the speeding ticket? I my
>case my name is spelled wrong, wrong type of car (I drive a pickup and filled
>in 2drhdtp), weather was wrong (foggy not cloudy) and the mile marker on the
>ticket is ten miles before where I stood.
>                                 Kris

Well, I got a ticket for going 75 mph 15 feet behind a state trooper
No it wasn't an unmaked car.... I was in a hurry... The trooper
wrote the wrong plate on the ticket... I appealed it just to be a
pain and figured that I could come up with sometihing. Well, to my
luck, the MARVELOUS MASSACHSETTS STATEYS lost all of their 
paperwork.... they didn't even know what I got bagged for. Nonetheless,
I was immediately let off. I asked the judge (psycho-bitch-from-hell)
if it made a difference because the cop wrote down the wrong plate
and her respone was "It was you that was speeding.... not the car."
and I do see her point.. I probably would have gone a lot faster if 
I was in my car ('74 Fiat X1/9) and wasn't in my mother's Korean
crap.

And I asked a local cop who is a friend of mine about your misspelled
name. His reply was "as long as they got the number right." 

My advice is to appeal it for the hell of it and be really creative in 
your excuse, and be sure to mention that the officer really screwed 
the ticket.... maybe the judge will get a good laugh, and hopefully
you wont get that on your insurance.....

Damon

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From: goudreau@robin.rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau)
Subject: Re: Left on red
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 18:40:40 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC

In article <FD5LRB4w165w@major.panix.com> dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea) writes:
>
>> >>>In which US states is it legal to turn left at a red light (after
>> >>>stopping, of course) from a one-way street onto a one-way street?
>
>Legal in New York State, but not NYC, but many one-way intersections are 
>placarded against it.

NY City is also the only place in the US (besides the US Virgin Islands,
where driving is on the left) where right-on-RED is still illegal
as well (this according to AAA).

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From: mike@gilligan.East.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Signalling one's desire to pass
Date: 30 Sep 1992 19:39:03 -0400
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Vienna, VA.
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Keywords: Why ask why?

Hi Y'all...

I was driving to work in the dark (literally) this morning, 
and I came upon a car that was moving about 5 mph under the
speed limit in the left lane. He was not beside anyone, and
he was not proceeding past any of the traffic in the right
lane. There was room to move over and pass, but I figured
I'd give protocol a try...

I thought to myself "Self, how'd you like to get hit from be-
hind by bright lights off a vehicle that is a good 2 feet hi-
gher than your own?" Self answered "I'd be pissed.". So, I
thought "Self, how can we make this guy aware that we're here,
and would really like to pass, without pissing him off?".
Self said "Try turning your headlights off, then back on.".

So, I did just that. I noticed a stirring in the car in front
of me. The driver seemed to be eyeing the rearview, perhaps
thinking about his next move. I simply stayed put behind him,
and did not flash my lights, or perform any other behavior
that might provoke him. Then, he signalled right, and moved
over into the right lane. Not wanting to look a gift horse in
the mouth, I passed straight away.

Although this story is in no way all that remarkable, it did
bring to mind a question. Why is it that we have an accepted
signalling convention (left-hand blinker) to indicate one's
desire to pass, but that signal is so ambiguous that it is
often ignored. I think that the headlights off (in darkness)
or on (in the daytime) should be the way to signal one's de-
sire to pass, because it is much easier to see, and also not
quite as intrusive as flashing one's brights.

Comments? Better ideas?

-- Mike

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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Left on red
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:22:48 GMT

In article <Bv4ysI.JEC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep24.191526.3225@photon.com> jbn@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
>>Regarding the poster who asked about roundabouts in the U.S., when I was
>>in college at Northwestern I remember one in a northern Chicago suburb.
>>
>>Could anyone who has been to Illinois since 1985 help me and the other
>>reader out with this?
> 
> It's in the vicinity of Des Plaines (or at least it WAS). The last time I
> saw it was in 1986. Perhaps they got smart and took it out (there were a
> lot of accidents there, as I recall, since this type of intersection is
> so rare nobody seemed to know how to deal with it effectively).
> 
> 

Yeah it's still there, on Golf road.  There's another one in Brookfield Il.

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From: ins499y@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Deeran Peethamparam)
Subject: Re: Right/Left turn laws
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:20:59 GMT

The reason right turning traffic has to give way to left turning traffic
is to get the right turning traffic out of the way of trams.  Since the
other states don't have trams, they don't have this rule.  It's a bit
of an anachronism, I feel -- only a small part of Melbourne has trams,
but road users all over Victoria have to follow this rule.

DP
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From: csroach@eng.clemson.edu (Shane Roach)
Subject: Re: Ferrari - Tokyo video
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:05:59 GMT

From article <1992Sep30.134622.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au>, by gench@lure.latrobe.edu.au:
> I read in the newspapers here a few weeks ago about a video made of a
> Ferrari F40 "racing" across Tokyo in the early morning.  This video
> is apparently similar to the infamous "Rendezvous" video made about
> a Porsche in Paris.
> 
 
"Rendezvous" was indeed filmed in Paris, but the car was a Ferrari 275, not
a Porsche.


Shane Roach
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From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound (merging lanes)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:11:38 GMT

deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker) writes:


>In article <1992Sep24.220009.4852@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, kiel_jeff@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com writes:
>> 
>> Both of your examples show how someone can get ahead by actually being
>> "smarter" rather than taking advantage of someone else.  If you wish to argue
>> that it is OK to wait to last minute to merge with traffic when a lane ends,
>> then find an example which applies.

>But I am doing the same thing...I am passing up a whole line of cars and then
>merging in later. The only difference is that they couldn't see me do it.

Wrong. You merged AFTER the choke point, when traffic was back up to normal
speed and spacing. Thus, your actions did not slow other people down. This
is a BIG difference from the scenario being discussed.

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From: karmira@natinst.com (Apostolos Karmirantzos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Thank you at night (was Re: Signalling one's desire to pass)
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:49:47 -0500
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
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ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:


>In a previous article, karmira@natinst.com (Apostolos Karmirantzos) says:

>>  What do you think is the appropriate way to signal a thank you at night
>>to someone who went right to allow you to pass. If it's day, I just wave
>>my hand, but what about at night?


>Never, never use hand signals unless you absolutely must.
>It's a bad feeling when you have to stop your car in the middle of traffic to
>go pick up your arm laying in the road that other motorists are running over.

  Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I waive my right hand (inside the car), 
so there isn't any danger of some other car hit my hand while I am waiving.
	Apostolos
P.S.  I think that you forgot to put a :-) at the end? :-)

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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: LIDAR workings (was Re: Laser Jammer Sighting?)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 07:33:47 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft) writes:

>x
>The concept is simple: direct a IR beam at the LIDAR detector which
>is of sufficient amplitude to swamp the "desired" signal, and which
>is of appropriate frequency (measured at the receiver, so don't forget
>your vehicle's motion) to read either <speed limit or a random
>failure.
>The bigger problem is in aiming your jammer at the LIDAR and doing so
>fast enough to avoid all true readings.  A continous, wide-angle
>beam will dothis.  
>The remaining physics is relatively straightforward and doesn't differ
>much from the radar equation used to build a radar jammer.

Actually the physics are fundimentally different.  The LIDAR (the Laser 
Atlanta unit at least) works by making a sequence of timed distance 
measurements and computes speed from delta distance/delta time.  It does
NOT use doppler in any manner.  

I would imagine it would take a fairly powerful and pretty close to 
(optical) frequency to jam the unit.  Doable but not trivial.  I'll
know more in a couple of months when I get one in for evaluation.

John

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From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: Laser Jammer Sighting?
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:32:50 GMT


[description of z-car with "kitt" light deleted]

What you saw was just a cute little accessory.  JC Whitney sells 
(or used to sell) them.  I almost got one for my old Skylark.  8^)
They're probably illegal, too.

Cheers
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From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: ERROR filled ticket? Any case?
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:47:37 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory


  How acurately does the trooper have to fill out the speeding ticket? I my
case my name is spelled wrong, wrong type of car (I drive a pickup and filled
in 2drhdtp), weather was wrong (foggy not cloudy) and the mile marker on the
ticket is ten miles before where I stood.
                                 Kris
From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: 55:  And Then There Were (Please Help)
Date: 27 Sep 1992 22:48:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
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When you do know it is safe to speed without getting caught by highway
patrol?  A friend told me when you see all the semi tractor-trialer
truckers speeding that you can assume you are in a safe zone to speed
until you notice they slow down to 55 again.  
Any thoughts?

Richard Banks
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From: wilkins@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Mark Wilkins)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
Subject: Re: (Defeating) The Club
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:25:52 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1ag2g6INN3i2@spool.mu.edu> jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson) writes:
>>   It'll probably defeat the casual joy rider, and cause the serious
>>car thief to look elsewhere if you have a common model, but if a
>>serious thief wants YOUR car, forget it.
>
>Well, it would take a pretty stupid thief to steal an Isuzu IMark... :)

   Possibly, but where I went to school in Southern California there were, at
one point, something like five white Honda Preludes stolen in a five week
period, all on campus.

   Maybe a Prelude is more desirable than an IMark, maybe not, I don't know,
but it suggests to me that someone may think your car is a good target for
reasons which aren't immediately obvious...

-- Mark Wilkins
From: jern@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Bob Jernigan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: SPEECH ON SPEEDING W/IMPUNITY
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:46:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: aplcen.1992Oct2.194652.12138
Reply-To: jern@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Bob Jernigan)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

In article <BvI579.MJ7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
|> 
|> I get the impression that many people who have been raised on expressway
|> driving just can't deal with a 2 lane road. They'll come up behind a
|> slower vehicle and just stay there, rather than pass it. 
|> 
Several years ago in Arizona a state trooper came upon a line of cars moving  slowly and stopping right on the road.  He put on his lights and took off in the left lane at a high rate of speed.  He found out too late that the cars were stopped because a bridge had washed out in a flash flood.  :'{
From: hill@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Craig Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Right/Left turn laws
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:19:49 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Oct2.065443.13032@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kappa@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano) writes:
>	    For my fellow Australians reading this newsgroup, I'm
>interested in the unique law here in Victoria, that left turning traffic
>must give way to right turning traffic at an intersection, traffic coming
>straight through gives cover to the left turner. 
According to a report in the election garbage a few days ago Liberal intend to
change this and bring back the 110km limit pretty soon.  So it looks like Vic.
will follow the rest of Australia to some logical sort of right of way system.

Appoligies for local stuff but this group is flood with it anyway.
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From: ashaw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (andrew.shaw)
Subject: Re: Stubborn Cyclists
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:34:21 GMT

From article <trussell.718386759@cwis>, by trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell):
> 
>     And please DON'T start these stupid arguments of breaking down taxes
> paid and saying "you can't do this because you don't pay taxes for it".
> If you want to start that, we can talk about cigarette smokers not paying
> their fair share of health costs, you name it.  This is a society, and we
> all pay for everything.
> 
Hear, hear!  Too many people seem to think we live in a state of
nature, where the greatest good is to look out for oneself, and
everyone else can go hang.  However, the cigarette smokers are
actually cheaper in the long run, because they die sooner (from
The Economist magazine [the data, not the deaths]).  Presumably
this is because the 1st expensive disease is fatal, rather than
the 10th.

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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: Left on red
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:20:51 GMT

In article <aLiXRB2w164w@cellar.org> blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
>00124961@ysub.ysu.edu writes:
>
>> In article <Bv55Eq.Byz@world.std.com>
>> tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt) writes:
>>  
>> >
>> >sns@bondi.jpl.nasa.gov (Sam Southard) writes:
>> >>rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis) writes:
>> >>>matt@cs.city.ac.uk (Matthew G Sillitoe (Matt)) writes:
>> >>>>ObQ. Are there *any* roundabouts in the US?
>> >>>
>> There is one in the center of Columbiana, Ohio, not far from where I live.
>> All the main streets in the town branch off of it.  Talk about a bunch of
>> confused drivers!  They have an "accident of the week" there.
>> Chris Kuner (just passing through)
>> 00124961@ysub.ysu.edu
>
>
>Oh, I can think of more than a few in South NJ.  However sadly (gladly) they 
>are being taken out, and replaced with 4 way intersecions.
>

There is one on Pacific Coast Highway in Long Beach, CA.  Looks like 
Lakewood Blvd (CA Hwy 19) starts there.

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From: q1hl@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Nameless CS Student)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: on which side of the road do you drive
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:01:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Brunswick

In article <rlewis.717618036@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis) writes:
>>In Malaysia and Singapore they also drive on the left, and I think all the 
>>Commonwealth countries do.
>We sure don't in Canada.

But we did at one time.  We switched to the right side after WWI.
Newfoundland was still driving on the left when they joined Canada
in 1949, if I'm not mistaken.
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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: SPEECH ON SPEEDING W/IMPUNITY
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 02:26:42 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <BvnH17.J8B@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>
>A Geo Metro is a very small, very fuel-efficient car. Like most
>ultra-high-efficiency cars, it's tiny engine is not much on acceleration
>(unless, of course, you add NITRO. ;-)

I'd expect that thing to need nitroglycerin rather than nitrous
oxide.  The former will make it accelerate REAL fast.  Once.
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From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: 55:  And Then There Were (Please Help)
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:57:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.191804.3309@photon.com> jbn@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
>The article said that New Jersey was one of EIGHT states which still
>had a 55 mph speed limit.

>I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
>no eligible roads), Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
>Connecticut, Maryland, and New Jersey.  Should I eliminate one of
>those states from the list?

alaska has no highways which could qualify for 65.  i'm not sure
that hawaii has any significant mileage that would qualify.  rhode
island sure doesn't have much mileage of that type.

NY, CT, MA, NJ, and PA are all 55 states, although i think that
PA is on the verge of going over to 65, although the governer
continues to threaten a veto.

richard
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