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From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Subject: Re: NEC CDR35 - Is it SCSI?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:24:26 GMT

dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>The point is, 50-pin Centronics does not necessarily mean SCSI, and since 
>there's a +26V line on the SCSI bus, you don't want to put any old 50-pin
>device on a SCSI bus.  You could damage the device, the host adaptor, or
>both.

>> I believe the CDR35 is SASI.  You could try calling the NEC BBS and see if
>You mean SCSI, right?    ^^^^

No, I meant SASI, where A=Architecture, a predecessor to SCSI.  My SCSI
software couldn't query anything from a CDR35, which suggested to me that
it wasn't SCSI compliant...hence, probably SASI.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: moepmisa@TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL
Subject: [ANS]      ForSale: Sony CDRom
Reply-To: moepmisa@TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:16:00 GMT

        I am interested in the external CD-ROM drive and interface card...
will you ship them if I mail a money order or cashiers check???
how much for the 2???

                        reply to Randall Tyle, this account...
From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM, ADAPTEC HELP NEEDED
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:25:56 GMT
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp


Russ, thanks for the tip, I'll give them a call.  It will be interesting to see
if they`ll talk to me this time.  When I first called about the CD-ROM drivers,
they said I had to talk to my local sales rep.  The local rep didn't return my
calls for two weeks until I called Adaptec back and complained about it.  Then
the local sales rep referred me to my local distributer, who referred me to my
locak retail outlet, who referred me to his headquarters office because they
didn't carry the drivers locally.  The HQ office told me I would have to pay
cash or order COD because they didn't take any credit card orders.  I finally
got in contact with an Adaptec support guy on CompuServe who was able to help
me.  Other people I talked to had similar problems trying to talk to Adaptec as
end users.  Now that SCSI is becoming more common, I guess Adaptec has realized
that they have to talk us.

Thanks again,		Kurt
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: mgg@ca.dynix.com (Marcel Gagne)
Subject: CD-Rom through TCP/IP
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:45:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dynix Automated Library Systems, Waterloo, ON

I have asked this question through other forums and as yet do not have a
satisfactory answer. :-(=-|  We are looking for an integrated product that will
allow us to make a CD-Rom tower server accessible through TCP/IP.  Most of our
systems are UNIX based and run of character based terminals.  The requirements
are as follows.

- Support for various character based terminals - I don't expect the terminals
                                    to support graphics.
- Key mapping for these terminals - The CD-Rom databases that will be offered
                                    must also be accessible to patrons dialing
                                    in from home, therefore any product that can
                                    not map somewhat intelligently will be too
                                    unfriendly for casual access.
- TCP/IP network accessible
- Multi-User capabilities
- Some kind of security interface would be nice
- Stats

Our software is available on a variety of platforms such as IBM, HP, Sequoia,
DEC, PRIME and others.  Consequently, the ideal product must either have a
very broad support base or run independently of the main host/server.

If there are any vendors out there reading this list and you feel you have
a solution that would be applicable, I would love to hear from you.  If there
is anyone out there who has such a system and is pleased with it, please let 
me know who your supplier/vendor is.

In the meantime, I thank you for any information you may have to offer.

Sincerely,

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Sincerely,

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Foreign language dictionaries on CD-ROM?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:17:11 GMT


Can anyone tell me if there are foreign-language CD-ROMs ?  I am looking for  
something like the Digital Webster for the NeXT, but in German and French  
formats.  Spanish would also be interesting.  I'm looking for an English-XXX,  
XXX-English format primarily, but am also interested in a pure XXX dictionary,  
where XXX is one of {German, English, or Spanish}.  I suppose that Macintosh  
formats would also be OK, since I also have a Mac.

Also, could someone tell me where I could find an annotated catalog (by FTP?)  
for available CD ROMs?   Or is this a ridiculous question?  After all, I don't  
even own a CD-ROM drive yet.

Thanks,
-Avery Wang
From: rbrown@bbn.com (Ralph Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Why Don't CDs use Both Sides?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 22:12:20 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rbrown@bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: spca.bbn.com

In article <1993Jan4.180028.12198@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, mike@drseus.jsc.nasa.gov (Mike Ross) writes:
|> I couldn't find the answer to this in the FAQ.  I see no reason why
|> the data capacity couldn't be doubled just by using the other side.
|> 
|> Obviously, I am severely wrong, or someone would do just that.
|> 
|> Is this true?  And if they can't use both sides, why not?
|> 
|> Thanks for any wisdom shared.  
|> 
|> Mike
|> 
|> -- 
|> ******************************** mike@drseus.jsc.nasa.gov *****
|> * Michael L. Ross/C33 | Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.   *
|> * Robotics Department | 2400 Nasa Rd. 1, Houston, TX 77062    *
|> *(713)333-7094 voice,(713)333-7201 fax**********boring, eh?****

Well, I was working at Phillips when the CD Rom was being developed,
and heard some comments about 1 sided vs 2 sided on audio CD's.

The theory at the time was that it would cost so much to master a CD
that only very high volume music would ever be sold on CD, and this
meant pop groups only. Since such groups usually have a lot of trouble
filling both sides of a vinyl (~45 min) it was decided that one side
was more than enough.

I got this from people attending the internal presentations so I give
it some credibility.

Ralph

PS - They also thought that PC's wouldn't use large amounts of memory
because the DRAMs would generate too much heat (really).
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: Y6HJ@UNB.CA (Y6HJ)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: NEC CDR35 - Is it SCSI?
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:22:45 GMT
Organization: The University of New Brunswick

In article <epang.726284845@sfu.ca> epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang) writes:
>dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>>We have an NEC CDR35 (model # CDR-35D-01) mounted on an NEC BFU-35 buffer
>>unit.  Said unit has 1 (one) 50 pin SCSI-like socket on the back.  If it
>>were real SCSI I'd expect two sockets.
>
>Why would you expect two sockets?  I think one socket means it's terminated
>internally, so it doesn't offer a passthrough.

If you want to daisy chain the CDR-35, you have to buy a special cable
that "acts" just like if you have two 50-pin ports.

>>Any idea if this is a SCSI drive ?  If so, how do I get it to work?  We
>>have zero documentation or software for this....
>
>I believe the CDR35 is SASI.  You could try calling the NEC BBS and see if
>they have a SCSI driver for it.

It is SCSI.  They usually sell the CDR-35 with a Trantor SCSI card.
To make it work, you will need the NEC drivers and MSCDEX.exe.  You will
also have to know which address your SCSI card is set at, so that you
can specifiy it in your DEVICE=... in the CONFIG.SYS

Paul


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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
Subject: How to prep data for a CD-ROM?
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 220-0636
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:54:05 GMT

The only CD-ROM that I've used is "Books in Print".  It comes with
installation and search software on two separate floppies.  We have a
database that is large enough that I've begun to think of using CD-ROM
as a way of making it readily available.

The database we're using is Clipper, and the current size of the
database is 50000 records averaging approximately 1K in size.  This is
only 50MB, with another 15MB in indexes tacked on, but it's getting
steadily larger. 

I've read this group long enough to have some idea of what the pricing 
and turnaround times are for having CDs made.  But what I don't know is
what format the data needs to be in when the data is given to the CD
people.  So I have the following questions:

(1) First, can I use Clipper (or other database) to interface with a CD?  
    Is there anything special that needs to be added?  Can DOS programs
	find a CD without having to be told where it is?

(2) Second, can the Clipper program be put on the actual CD, or does it
	need to be supplied on a separate floppy?  It would be handier to keep
    track of one CD ...

(3) Third, does it matter how "fresh" the data is before it's put on
    tape and sent off?  (By fresh I mean that the data was sorted into
	the most common search order, the disk has been optimized and the 
	indexes have been rebuilt.)

(4) What do names look like on the CD?  If I use an MS-DOS machine, are
	they in MS-DOS format?  I recall reading that the machines used to
	make the CDs are typically PCs.  How does the ISO-9660 or High
	Sierra format relate to the user's operating system?

(5) Given a database with multiple indexes, what kind of performance can
	be expected?  For example, I might put a database of newsgroups articles
	in order of their author's name.  Is it a problem if I want to
	search by subject if the database is also indexed that way?

Sorry if these are frequently asked questions, but I haven't really seen
any answers.

Thanks!

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Advice on PhotoCD capable CD-ROM
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:42:49 GMT

Rob Althoff (ralthoff@s.psych.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> 
> I am looking into buying a CD-ROM drive for use with the Macintosh IIci
> that we use.  We would like to use the drive to access pictures that we
> have taken and will place on PhotoCD.  In the past, we have scanned in
> 
.......

> What type of software I would need for the PhotoCD and for converting
> the files into PICT files
>
I believe there is a Photoshop plug-in to allow direct access to PhotoCD

Most mid-range drives (not the cheapies) will support what you want.  We
have used NEC Intersect drives with the Trantor MCA adaptor (not the
regular IBM SCSI card :-( )
 
I do not work for the PhotoCD group, so don't e-mail questions on PhotoCD
to me.  I will try to relay this news article to the PhotoCD group.

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||Dave Jones (dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com)|Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY  |
From: horwich@lexcel.mti.com (Jordan Horwich)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: DAK BSR CD-ROM drive
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:50:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA

I need an inexpensive CD-ROM drive for a 486 PC, preferrably with a non-SCSI
interface card. Performance is a secondary issue. 

I purchased a $200 BSR drive from DAK (which comes with a
proprietary non-SCSI host interface. The drive works fine, but the
host adaptor interferes with the floppy drives. Since I have
been unsuccesful at getting through DAKs' customer support phone line
for more then 3 weeks now, and sinc e DAK does not respond to customer
support FAX requests, I am sending the drive back for a refund. I 
have already diagnosed the problem as a faulty 74als245 part on the card, 
but I would expect DAK to take care of it, as it is under warranty.

Can anyone recommend another source for the drive that DAK sells, or
a different drive ? Something in the $200 range is preferrable. It
must be external as I have no open bays left in the machine. Is the
Mitsumi drive any good ? 

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: WorldScript on CDROM ?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:50:30 GMT

Is there a CDROM that contains fonts for WorldScript ?
How much would it be ?
Any discounts for students ?

Sven :)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: fordke@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Ford)
Subject: MM Kit CDROM speed
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:19:49 GMT


I've been considering purchasing a Creative Labs MultiMedia kit,
the ones that sell for around $550.  My question is, what is the
typical access time of the drives that come in these kits?  Are
they fast enough to handle the animation, like is contained in
the Mammals CD?  I've got a DAK 800ms external drive now, and it
is not fast enough with my 386SX-16.
-- 
Keith E. Ford     __
Intergraph Corp  /  \ Micro Magic BBS 1:373/12  The Dragon Server
+1 205 730-8614  \__/ sysop@umagic.fidonet.org  server@ingr.com
fordke@ingr.com  [__] 830-2362 HST/V32bis 9600  "Subject: HELP"
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: hst@mh.nl (Klaas Hemstra)
Subject: XA compatible cd-rom drive... Is it software, hardware ?
X-Md4-Signature: d001d065a04c3b19eda4fd9a8d4984f3
Organization: Multihouse Automation, the Netherlands
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:28:22 GMT

For reading Photo CD's you need an XA compatible drive.
Some are some aren't.

Could someone please explain what the difference is between XA
compatible and not XA compatible ?
Is the SCSI hardware/software on the drive the problem or is it the
driver on the MS-DOS side that is causing the incompatibility.

I read somewhere the sector numbering differs if you updated the
CD-ROM with more pictures (the directory will be rewritten to the disc
at a higher sector number. Is this correct ?

How should i see the ISO & high-sierra (?) file systems in regard to
this XA standard ?

Thanks,

Klaas

 
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: norsk@mobius (Doug Thompson)
Subject: Re: Help with PAS-16, NEC-84, and Adaptec 1522
Reply-To: doug_thompson@novell.com
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:46:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.171248.7274@s1.gov>, kab@s1.gov (Keith Benton) writes:
> Use the adaptec to run the NEC CD-ROM.
> 
> ---
> 	---------------------------------------------------------
> 	|             Keith Benton: kab@s1.gov                  |
> 	| ME!?!? Speak for anyone here!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
> 	|             Standard Disclaimers apply                |
> 	---------------------------------------------------------
> 

I tried that first thing out of the box. The NEC worked great, then I
tried using Comptons MM Ency., Knowledge Adventure SPACE and others
which used sound.  Sometimes sound would occur, but every once in awhile
when the NEC was accessed, the sound would turn to static.

In the PAS-16 'readme paper', it mentions this when a hard disk on the
Adaptec bus was accessed. The suggested fix was to change the ON/OFF
times for ASPI4DOS, which I did. Didn't help. I then moved the NEC
onto the PAS-16 on board bus and the sound works find. 

I'd rather have it on the Adaptec, then I could utilize Linux to
access the CDs as well as DOS.

I tried calling Media Vision today and got "We have an opening next
tuesday when we can call you back...."  a whole week for Customer
support to return a call!!! Great!

PS. DMAs and IRQs are all allocated fine, seeing the number of Questions
on their readme paper, made me ensure all was fine. Problem with that
is all my LOW IRQs are taken and I have 3 HIGH IRQs available and 
unuseable.


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email:   norsk@novell.com or doug_thompson@novell.com
phone:   801-429-3495
"If your think education is expensive, just try ignorance."
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Saturday, 9 Jan 1993 14:37:19 EST
From: <O79SI@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: List of drives too slow for Sherlock Holmes II

is it possible to get a copy of sherlok holmes ii free? if is it please mail me
all the files to execute the game
thanx.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: rryan@panix.com (Rob Ryan)
Subject: Re: Parallel port CD ?
Organization: Panix, NYC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:05:28 GMT

In <0096601A.16FA0A60@vms.csd.mu.edu> 1012breuckma@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>In article <93001.211144IRVK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IRVK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Irv Konfield) writes:
>>I've seen external floppy and hard drives that connect via a
>>serial port and require no additional wiring.  Is there a CD reader
>>that can be connected in a similar manner (and thus moved among
>>machines)
>
>NEC sells an SCSI adapter that connects to the parallel port.  I believe
>it's made by trantor.

Be aware that NEC's Parallel-to-SCSI is significantly slower than traditional
SCSI cards.  NEC's standard SCSI controllers have a data transfer rate of
1 MB/sec, where as the Parallel-to-SCSI interface supports 60 KB/sec read
rate.

-- 
 Rob Ryan
    rryan@panix.com
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: SYSTEM@MICKEY.DNET.HAC.COM (VAX/VMS System Manager)
Subject: Directory list for the CICA CD Rom
Reply-To: VAX/VMS System Manager <SYSTEM@MICKEY.DNET.HAC.COM>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:42:05 GMT

        Hi All,

        I have decided to dive into world of CD Roms and have ordered
        the CICA CD with my drive. Unfortunately, I don't have FTP access
        to the FTP site so that I can get a sneak preview of what is on the
        ROM, so could some kind soul please send me the listing, so that I
        know what to expect on the CD.

        Thanks in advance,

        Scott.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Scott Taylor                       Internet Mail : scott@mickey.hac.com
    Systems Manager
    Hughes Aircraft Company (Scotland)

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: DOUG@MLNC486.MLNC.COM (Doug Tremere)
Subject: Re: Parallel port CD ?
Reply-To: doug@mlnc486.mlnc.com
Organization: Missouri Library Network Corp.
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:45:49 GMT

> IRVK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Irv Konfield) writes:
>
> >I've seen external floppy and hard drives that connect via a
> >serial port and require no additional wiring.  Is there a CD reader
> >that can be connected in a similar manner (and thus moved among
> >machines) that doesn't require any additional hardware?  Any
> >help would be appreciated.
>
> Yes. I just saw one from MicroSolutions (I think) at CompUSA that attaches
> to the parallel port of a PC. Sorry, but I didn't pay any attention to the
> details as I don't have a PC.
>
> --
> dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu

I sell a Hitachi SCSI CD-ROM drive that comes with a Parallel port adapter
(the model is the TCDR7050U) for $700.00.
The adapter is the NEW Trantor T-348 which connects to the parallel port
of any DOS computer.

Doug Tremere                           Missouri Library Network Corporation
Computer Services Manager              10332 Old Olive Street Road
equipment@mlnc486.mlnc.com             St. Louis, MO 63141   1-800-264-3799
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Cleaning CD-ROM Drives
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A776FDF4C603BA16@godzilla.jdola.lanl.gov>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:35:32 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:37:19 GMT

Title about says it.  What is the proper way to clean an CD-ROM drive? 
Canned air?  One of those cleaning kits for audio players?

I'm asking because I'm having troube reading _all_ of my CD-ROMS (but not
audio CDs)  even if I use either my Adaptec or PAS-16 SCSI connections.  Any
references appreciated, will post the results.

--- Gavin
Visualize Whirled Peas!
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: 75300.1324@COMPUSERVE.COM (Nick Arnett/GO MULTIM)
Subject: Panasonic CD-ROM drivers
Reply-To: Nick Arnett/GO MULTIM <75300.1324@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:32:14 GMT

Re Warren Stevens' need for drivers for the Panasonic CR-521 CD-ROM drive...
The current driver is available in Library 1 of the Multimedia Vendor Forum (GO
MULTIVEN) on CompuServe.  If you're in the Bay Area, it might be cheaper to
call the Creative Labs BBS, though I don't have the number.

Nick Arnett
Multimedia Forums on CompuServe
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware