From: czyzmik@elof.iit.edu (Mike Czyz)
Subject: Massive dosage of LSD
Organization: .
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:46:55 GMT

since everyone else has something to say about this, why don't i...

blotter LSD laced with ANYTHING (in quantities to have an effect)

    not possible.  I have a feeling that most of the people who really believe
that there is strychnine in blotter acid - or anything else for that matter - 
has never seen blotter acid. it just isn't possible to put anything there.  i
don't have a copy of the post but whoever asked if there was ANY way to poison
acid (i believe he asked if you could adhere it with hairspray or glue for 
example) well yes, you could glue the sheet to a car as well, but that doesn't
mean the trip would be any better - more expensive due to the price of the car
and a bad idea since the authorities would probably take the weight of the auto
into consideration for you sentencing - the answer is YOU WOULD NOTICE anything
strange stuck to it quantities that would have any effect whatsoever

    and why would a chemist want to do that? first off all anyone who was smart
enough to make acid would know that any additional chemicals would be stupid 
and anyone who makes the sheets would know better as well. if you by a tab,
or a sheet, you either get paper or LSD (some impurities as well of course but
in a very very very small amount). no in between. there are great 
differences in dosage and people to account for the feelings of "speedy" 
or "visual" or whatever description you want to give a dose.  back in the '60s
Owsley did a test, apparently he took a batch of his acid, separated it and
colored the batches.  stories began spreading that green was "speedy" or blue
was calm or whatever.  the point being, it was all the same stuff and while 
dosage may vary on an individual dose level, for any color group the stuff was
the same as any other color group. (no i don't know the psychedelic effects of 
food coloring :)

LEGALIZATION OF ACID
pot should be legal. period. so i won't go into that here but if you want to
know my thoughts, just ask.

but how do you legalize lsd again? and how legal should it be? i honestly don't
know why it should be illegal to research its effects.  it's not like that 
approach is keeping lsd out of peoples hands (far from it - use is increasing 
by anyone estimates :) except for the fact that people like to impose their
will on others. acid is a drug. in many peoples opinion a helpful drug. it
should be used in a way that best exploits its good qualities.  i believe the
FDA recently allowed a few researchers to begin studying it again (if they
come up with the money ha. ha.). hell - its a start.

before LSD was scheduled there were thousands of papers written about its
effects. i think it was one of the most (if not the most) studied chemicals 
to date. but most of that work is hard to come by now-a-days.  there is 
something on the other side of the door. we should do all we can to find out
what.

as for personal use, how to handle that? obviously that would require a great
number of people demanding it. and a lot of concessions and limiting of it's
distribution.  how about "licensing" use? make a certain level of intelligence
or maturity or mental health or whatever a requirement to get acid. the problem
with that is, if you "license" its use, many of the people who you need to 
pass that kind of legislation just won't qualify. so they are not going to 
be to anxious to help out.  besides, if people can get lsd, everyone is going
to be able to get it - no matter if they qualify or not.  How about classes?
make people who want to use it go through a series of guided trips with 
the correct set and setting until they can control the experience.  until
they know the lay of the land, so to speak.  better, but still doesn't solve
all of the problems. everyone does acid for their own reasons you can't tell
people that is has to be a mystical experience or a way to cause real change
for the better.  some people take it to watch the pretty colors, some people 
to rebel, some people for fun.  all in all, i think that the best way is 
education.  most of the 'bad trips' of today could be avoided if people 
understood what they were dealing with.  its not  something you take for the 
first time and then hang out in a hospital waiting room.  the MOST IMPORTANT
things about a psychedelic are SET and SETTING.  until you understand these
things you should not do any serious drug. period.

PROOF

Finally, have any of you ever noticed how much easier it is for people to 
believe the things that can't be proven?  all the people who insist on 
any of the urban legends involving drugs.  they demand proof against these
things (i.e. PROVE there is no strychnine in acid, PROVE pot has no lethal
dosage level) but i'll bet that not one of them can PROVE any of the things
they claim. anything can kill you if your system is overloaded with it, or
if it is administered in a way your system cannot handle. but how many people
each year are killed by paper cuts?  the chemical d-lysergic acid diethylamide
will not kill you unless you take more then the total ever taken by all the
people reading this newsgroup plus all that was ever taken by their friends 
and maybe their friends friends as well.  Your experiences might cause death
(sticking a 6 inch spike through your head to see what it was like for example)
but those problems can be avoided with the proper SET and SETTING.  pot won't
kill you unless you eat a whole truckload of hash or something like that. but
if you try to drive at the same time, you might end up pushing up the daisies.
NOT true with cigarettes.  the nicotine in a few cigarettes can kill you 
straight off. try eating a few or soaking a few in water for a while and
gulping it down.  tell us what happened.

also, i have had acid absorbed through my skin. granted, my fingers were 
slightly damp at the time, but just holding the tab in my fingers for a while
until it 'kicks it' does work.  i tried it last summer. no contact with the
tab other then between my thumb and first finger and then no touching of my 
mouth, eyes, etc. till things started happening.  i did it on purpose to prove
it would work. and in case its your next question, no i didn't happen to video
tape it, sorry.

the above are all my opinions, my experiences, and things i accept as true
be feel free to send any intelligent flames or follow-ups. but don't bother 
yelling at me because you think i sound to sure of myself. and don't bother
with "well i don't believe you, prove it" cause i wont.  learn to deal
with not knowing if that's your attitude.

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Mike Czyz   czyzmik@elof.iit.edu

"Once we get out of the '80s, the '90s are gonna make the '60s look like 
 the '50s." -- Dennis Hopper in "Flashback"
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