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From: franke@karnak.llnl.gov (Norman Franke, III)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Laser disk rentals in San Jose area?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:13:33 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
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In article <1992Dec16.044048.3659@cirrus.com> Tom Kao, tomk@cirrus.com
writes:
>Where to rent laser disks:  

While we are wasting bandwidth... :-)

Any places that rent LDs in the Livermore, (CA) valley?

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From: jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Mail Order Recommendation - Manhattan Video
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa

A few folks have requested the phone number for Manhattan Video.
It is:  800-331-5423

I have recommended this company before, based on my postive experience
with them when recently ordering a Nikon VN-320 (Sony TR-71 clone)
camcorder.  Their prices seem good ($889 for above camera WITH 5 year
Nikon extended warranty) and they are quite congenial on the phone,
especially when compared to some of the other NY wholesalers.  I ordered
my delivery 2-day shipping ($59.00) and it arrived on time in good
condition.  I have been very pleased with this camcorder and with the
service I recieved from this company.  This is, of course, my own
opinion based on only a single order.

BTW, retail cost for the camcorder alone (no extended warranty) is $995.00.
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From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:18:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida

pharris@ucscm.ucsc.edu (Peter Hsrris) writes:
: There have been some qs about the resolving power/dynamic range of
: PhotoCD as compared to that of traditional film.
: ... the first things Ive had to do was change my thinking
: from /lines per mm0 to /pixels.0
: 
: If one takes as a starting point Kodachromes maximum resolving power
: under optimum lighting conditions of (I recall) 165 lines per mm

Try Velvia at 160 l/mm.  Kodachrome isn't quite that good -- just 100 l/mm.

: (OK, let's be modern and call it 165 PIXELS per mm.),

Let's remember that it takes 2 pixels (more or less...) for each line of
resolution...

: squares it (were talking
: horizontal and vertical dimensions here, so you square 165) and

Hey, you just pointed out a mistake I made while doing this computation
a month or so ago (and no one else did!).  I forgot to square that number
to convert from lines to pixels in both dimensions -- and the result I
got was already much bigger than a Photo CD image holds!  OK, let's go...

: multiplies that out by the dimensions of a 35 mm slide (24 x 36 mm) and

To get the number of pixels in the image, multiply by the length and width
of the image in millimeters.  So far we have (for 35mm Velvia):

	num. pixels = (160 lines/mm * 2 pixels/line)^2 * 24mm * 36mm
		    = 8.8 x 10^7 pixels^2  (yes, the pixels are square :-)
		    or about 90 Megapixels

: then times three (number of colors that the slide is made of (RGB or YMC,
: its all academic for purposes of this example)) the result shows to go
: you that a 35 mm. slide is capable of (ideally) holding approximately 70
: MEGABYTES of data (albeit in analog form.) Dats a lot o data. Im not
: familiar with the compression savings under PhotoCD, but even if you
: could squash the data by 75% its still a megafile.

OK, so I'm at 265 Megabytes.  Of course, it depends on how you argue it.
On one hand, there's still black and white film to consider (Tech Pan at
320 lines/mm).  But then it can also be argued that current camera lenses
can *usually* not achieve even 100 lines/mm resolution at the film plane.
(But what about the exceptions?  Leave them out in the cold?  Stifle the
development of better optics?  Now can you see why I'm not happy with Photo
CD, and won't be for a long time, IF EVER?)

: So where does this all leave us? As the geneticist said when asked what
: yould get if you crossed an elephant w/ a rhinoceros 

Probably all the failings of both, which seems to me to be where Photo CD
is taking us.  (BTW, I am not at all against electronic imaging; I simply
don't want it to be the limit of image quality.)

: Seems to me that you can store more
: data-per-cubic-measure-of-storage-medium optically (the emulsion is less
: than 100th inch thick)

Now why is it that there is so much interest in holographic memory ;-)

-- 
Jay Ts
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From: eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Hi Fi VHS VCR's
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:08:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hi there!

I've just recently gotten net access, and I'm sure that this
question has been asked before.  If it wouldn't kill you, I
hope that there is still enough interest to answer!  Anyhow,
I'm looking for a HiFi VHS VCR for my high end audio system.  I'm
looking for something in the $500-600 range, and I don't know
what to look for or expect.  Is the sound on hifi vcr's relatively
the same among brands?  Is there a plateau that once you go above
the sound is better?  Can anyone please recommend a few good 
models, performance and quality wise, with typical prices if
possible.  ALso, any recommendations on what to avoid and
features to look for would be real helpful.  Please respond
via Email, and I'll post a summary if there's enough interest.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Ethan

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jimr@mothra.rose.hp.com (Jim Ranlett)
Subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-D701 (my experiences)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:52:37 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
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Allen B (ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
: OK, I've been planning to buy a new LaserDisc player for
: years.  I was just about ready to get a 701 (after sitting
: out the 3090, 3080, and 3070 for one reason or another) and
: now I'm bummed again. :-(
: 
: How new is the 701?  Have they only been selling them for a
: month or two? 

I believe they started selling them in May/June 92.  My player had a 
manufacturing date of April 1992.  If you cannot afford a CLD-95 (~$1700?)
(reviewed by William Cruce in an earlier post), the D701 is worth looking
at.  The Phillips CDV-488 is also well regarded, although I personally
have no experience with it, never having seen one.

Jim

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From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:32:11 GMT
	<PD.92Dec17104743@horus.sics.se> <BzF631.FF@news.ucs.mun.ca>
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista

In article <BzF631.FF@news.ucs.mun.ca> hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:

> About resolution:

> Allow me to be an idiot, because I can't remember the numbers

You're welcome! :-)

> exactly, but my roomate (an audio/video phile of sorts) was not
> at all impressed with the resolution of te Photo Cd system.
> He figures it doesn't even utilize the resolution of most TV
> screens with respect to pixels.  So, why is this ? 
> Wy didn't Kodak optimize the pixels?  (Problem maybe with rectangles
> in square tv screens? Anyway, film will never die!)

The pixel in a PhotoCD-image are square, but a TV-screen is not
square. The aspect ratio of a 35mm-image is not the same as that of a
TV-screen so you can't use all of the screen anyway.
BTW: There are lots of advantages with having square pixels.
--
Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mjkobb@media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb)
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi or Sony?
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
	<1992Dec11.200842.11584@coe.montana.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:50:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.200842.11584@coe.montana.edu> osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:

   I love my Mits U82.  I would kill, rather than give it up.  It beats my
   3 other VCR's all to pieces. (JVC, RCA, and some cheapo that had a busted
   case, which I never use).


Seconded.  When I can afford it, I'm going to replace my other VCR
with another U-82, or whatever the current model is by then.  After
using the U-82, other VCR's (many of them; not all) are almost
painful to use.  This is mainly from the great fast-response
mechanism.

U-82 wish list:

-let me record index marks on prerecorded material.
-let me reset the counter at the VCR, without the remote
-let me access the super-high-speed visible search from the remote's
  shuttle wheel.
-When switched to the L1 or L2 inputs, switch the relay for the
  Antenna A/B selector back to A, so RF feeds through okay if I'm
  recording VCR-->VCR, but don't want to watch the dub in progress.
  (I know, I know.  I need a matrix switcher.)

That's it!

--Mike
From: S650@HEC.CA
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: SONY's V801 out of stock ?
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:40:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ecole des Hautes Etudes Commerciales de Montreal


        I am reading this group since 4 months and I am still
puzzeled with the future of SONY's CCDV801.
        -Is it only out of stock in the USA or did SONY stoped
making it ?
        -If they have stoped making it...
                -Is there a problem with this camera (A salesman
                 heard about problems with the RC time codes.)
                -Is there a Hi8 replacement comming with RCTC
                 and as much (or more) editing options as the V801 ?
                -Why are they doing so ?
        -How long in advance are retailors informed by SONY of
         the coming of new products ? In Canada it is still
         possible to find a few of these cameras but every salesmen
         I've spoke to are as cunfused as I am !
        -Considering all this is it still a good think to buy one ?!

Merci... Excuse my english :-)            B. Beaudoin  S650@HEC.CA
From: echuang@cco.caltech.edu (Ernest Y. Chuang)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Using TV speakers as center channel
Date: 14 Dec 1992 08:57:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

Yes, yes, I know that it's going to sound pretty bad, and I do
plan to get a dedicated center channel soon.  But until then,
just as a stop-gap measure...

How do I hook up the center channel output of my A/V receiver
to the audio inputs of my TV?  I don't suppose I can just use
a direct speaker-wire-to-RCA connection, can I?  Do I need to
do some sort of impedance matching or something?

- Ernest
  echuang@cco.caltech.edu
From: Andrew.Stratton@cm.cf.ac.uk (Andrew F Stratton)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: HELP : Can I connect SCART to SVGA monitor?
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:34:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff


  Please could someone let me know how to connect a SCART video recorder
(which I haven't yet bought) to an 14" svga monitor for an IBM PC.  I
will also be wiring the sound through my HiFi (but I have done the
latter before).

  I would like to do this - because I already have a colour svga
monitor - the quality should be a lot better than a TV - and I do not
want even more boxes strewn around the place.  I am a dab hand at
soldering - so I am ok to wire my own plugs.

Thanks in advance,
  Andy Stratton.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: This group is worthless (cable signal amplifiers)
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:39:14 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <9212142249.AA27078@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
<
<I can't believe that with 9.5 million people on the internet and 35,000
<reading this group (*) that NO ONE even has a CLUE about boosting cable
<signals.

[...]

Gee Otto, I'm surprised that you didn't send me e-mail directly.

Other people don't like them, but I have two of the Radio Shack 1-in and
4-out distribution amps.  They sure work good for me.  Each output has a 3 db
gain as well.

You don't want to raise the gain of the cable signal too much.  You may
have problems with overdriving.  If you need it to run multiple sets, use
the distribution amps.  It does require a separate cable to each area.
I've done that as well.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bobdavis@scumbag.viewlogic.com (Bob Davis)
Subject: Re: THX Spectral Sound
Originator: bobdavis@scumbag
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:22:05 GMT


In article <1gbviaINNgu4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ac717@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffry L. Johnson) writes:
|> 
|> In a previous article, Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) says:
|> 
|> >There is a new movie theatre here in Vancouver called the Caprice opening
|> >soon. It claims to have 70mm with something called THX Spectral Sound,
|> >promised to be the most brain-destroying sonic experience on earth. Does
|> >anyone know what this is?
|> 
|> Could this mean that the theatre is THX certified and they have a
|> Dolby SR decoder (SR=Spectral Recording)?
|> 
|> In a previous article,  gn@cray.com (Gary Nelson) says:
|> 
|> >It's an "improvement" on surround sound, developed by
|> >George Lucas's company. I believe it uses 6 or 8 speakers 
|> >as opposed to the 4 or 5 used in Dolby surround.
|> 
|> Nope. There are no specifications for the number of speakers for surround
|> that I am aware of (at least for Dolby surround vs. THX).
|> Granted, for the best surround effect, you want MANY surround speakers.
|> This way the surround sound does not appear localized to any one area
|> in the auditorium. The quantity of surround speakers installed is a 
|> function of how much the theatre owner is willing to spend.
|> -- 
|> Jeffry L. Johnson                                    CWRU Film Society Alumnus

Folks, I dunno what "THX Spectral" is really talking about, but if it
is market-speak for THX with a Dolby SR-D decoder -- a reasonable
hypothesis -- then the number of channels is known, since SR-D is not a
mystery system.

SR-D is a compressed, digital stereo-surround system, which is different
from theatre "Dolby Stereo" -- or the home equivalent, Dolby Pro Logic --
because there are discrete channels for left and right surround,
center channel, and sub.  Also, it's digitally encoded, data-compressed,
etc.  Dolby says this SR-D system is "5.1" channels, since the subwoofer
stuff is low-frequency, low-information stuff (.1 channel).  The other
five are left-front, center, right-front, left-surround, and right-surround.

Theatres do often employ many surround channels per side, but these are
merely putting out the same signal, for more uniformity through the
theatre.

ciao
-- 
Bob Davis -- bobdavis@viewlogic.com
"VISUALIZE WHIRLED PEAS"

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From: Peter Hsrris <pharris@ucscm.ucsc.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:44:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
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There have been some qs about the resolving power/dynamic range of
PhotoCD as compared to that of traditional film. As one who has come
recently (past few years) into the age of desktop electronic imaging (I
ve been down with Scitek for about 15 years-- its the desktop stuff that
Im new to) on of the first things Ive had to do was change my thinking
from lines per mm to pixels.

If one takes as a starting point Kodachromes maximum resolving power
under optimum lighting conditions of (I recall) 165 lines per mm (OK, let
s be modern and call it 165 PIXELS per mm.), squares it (were talking
horizontal and vertical dimensions here, so you square 165) and
multiplies that out by the dimensions of a 35 mm slide (24 x 36 mm) and
then times three (number of colors that the slide is made of (RGB or YMC,
its all academic for purposes of this example)) the result shows to go
you that a 35 mm. slide is capable of (ideally) holding approximately 70
MEGABYTES of data (albeit in analog form.) Dats a lot o data. Im not
familiar with the compression savings under PhotoCD, but even if you
could squash the data by 75% its still a megafile.

So where does this all leave us? As the geneticist said when asked what
yould get if you crossed an elephant w/ a rhinoceros 

Seems to me that you can store more
data-per-cubic-measure-of-storage-medium optically (the emulsion is less
than 100th inch thick)
than you can magnetically. Now if I can only get my nano-scale analog to
digital converter working again....

Peter Harris
University of California Santa Cruz


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dcbii@rob.raleigh.ibm.com (Dave Barnhart)
Subject: Re: Built in VCR plus seems USELESS!!!
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:00:00 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

cd248@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Sherman) writes:

>I just got a VCR w/ VCR PLUS built in.  In this form, it seems worthless!
>VCR Plus only records for the exact length of the show.  If it's an hour
>show, it starts when the VCR clock reaches 8:00 and stops exactly at
>9:00.  The problem is, nothing begins or ends on time.  Around here,
>most shows end late.  I tried setting my clock 4 minutes back so it
>starts and stops late but that hasn't helped in most cases.
> 
>I know the VCR Plus system you can get separately has an "add time"
>feature that allows you to add time to your recording but it's not
>built in to our VCR.
> 
>Is there anything I can do to make this system useable??

You don't mention what kind of VCR you have.  On the Sony 696 I looked at,
entering a VCR+ program would put that program in the VCR memory along with
the regular programs.  It was then possible to adjust the start/end time with
the regular program controls.  Admittedly, this makes the feature less
convenient, but definitely useable.

Of course, this kind of adjustment might not be available on all the different
VCRs that allow VCR+.

You are right in that the external VCR+ is more convenient.  Since it also
allows switching of cable box channels, it definitely seems better than built
in.

Dave Barnhart                    email: 70672.1311@Compuserve.com

Please do not email to the address in the header; it's just a news server.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Lost Picture - Autotracking?
Keywords: Help, VCR
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:07:48 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <reuter.2.724533685@sander.lockheed.com> reuter@sander.lockheed.com (Jeff Reuter) writes:
<My 8 month old Mitsubishi 4 head hi fi VHS VCR can no longer play back 
<anything that it records.  Before I pay for the repair (6 month labor 
<warranty, 12 month parts warranty, aarrgh!!), is there anything I should try?
<
<Symptoms:  The recorded image will play for 1/2 second with a few horizontal 
<lines across the middle, then the screen goes solid blue as if there were no 
<signal present.  The auto-tracking indicator also goes out.  Some audio is 
<present, but it either plays at double normal speed or it snaps in and 
<out, and I can sometimes hear a different (old?) soundtrack.  When scanning 
<forward or backward, or showing a still frame, the image looks normal (so I 
<know that *something* is being recorded).  Adjusting the manual tracking has 
<no effect.
<
<All my old tapes play just fine.  Only the ones taped within the last week 
<or so are bad.

Sounds like you lost the circuitry that produces the control track on the
tape.  Without it, playback is virtually impossible.  Just like you are
seeing.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: guest@veronica.cs.wisc.edu (Guest account)
Subject: Re: VHS Copy Protection??
Reply-To: petlock@turing.org
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:35:42 GMT

bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez) writes:

>brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

>>Trivia question...

>>	Name the first US release on VHS that contained Macrovision?

>was it MASK?

>Bil Gonzalez

I thought it was 'The Cotton Club' - I seem to remember having read
about it in Video magazine at the time...
-Tim Petlock
petlock@turing.org
Newsgroups: rec.video.cable-tv
From: rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Bob Vogel)
Subject: Re: Sharing FM and TV Cable
Reply-To: rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.135312.1841@sei.cmu.edu>, rlm@sei.cmu.edu
 (Richard Murphy) writes:
>
>Is it feasible to "share" video co-ax cable with FM and TV signals?  Problem
>is my need to locate an FM antenna high in my house and get signal down to
>lower room.  Is there a way to share the cable?  I want to avoid another cable
>run if possible.

Yes definitely, just do it.  If you are carrying only regular off-air assigned
TV channels (2-13 & UHF 14-83) there is no frequency conflict with the FM band.
Use a splitter (two-way splitter--Radio Shack & lots of other places have them)
backwards as a combiner.  Feed the FM antenna in one output and your TV antenna
in the other.  "input" line (which is now the output) goes down to your TV.

If you have cable TV and want to use thier line--not a good idea.  First you
might create signal leakage which can be dangerous to emergency radio services
and second the cable co may already have services on the FM (many in fact offer
FM service, for a fee, of course) and there would be at least conflict and
interference, probably garbage.  If you need more details, e-mail unless it is
of general interest.
Most antennas are set up for 300 ohm connections.  Be sure to use a matching
transformer to match the 75 ohm cable.
Newsgroups: rec.video.cable-tv