From: joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap)
Subject: Re: Abstinence (was: easier?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:52:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.215502.26502@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>In <1992Sep11.175923.15822@cbfsb.cb.att.com> joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap) writes:
>>It was told to me it's not how much you drink, when you drink, or how
>>often you drink, it's how you drink and how you feel after you drink that
>>counts. Well 99 times out of 100 I drank to get drunk and I always felt
>>remorse the next day after I drank. I had enough I was through I didn't
>>want to feel that way anymore.
>
>Well, I find this interesting, because by your definition I definitely had
>the same drinking problem myself for a while.  I can remember my friends
>looking at me like I was crazed when I would buy a pint of rum and down
>it in a couple hours to kill the pain I didn't want to deal with.  Eventually
>I grew out of it.  Is someone going to tell me that I'm still an alcoholic?
>I would probably agree that I was at that point in my life, but I'm free
>of the desire to be blotto now, and don't have any problems with returning
>urges to go buy those pints....
>
>The problem I have in all of these is this--abstinence may be an effective
>solution in many cases, but I have a hard time accepting the dogma
>of its necessity.
>-- 
>Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
>      No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful
>            Everbody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful


If anyone has any doubts that they are an alcoholic or not the followin 20
questions signed sealed and delivered it to me.

Tos answer this question ask yourself the following questions and answer them
as honestly as you can. Yes or No

1. Do you loose time from work (school) due to drinking?

2. Is drinking making your home life unhappy?

3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people?

4. Is drinking affecting your reputation?

5. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking?

6. Have you ever gotten into financial difficulties as a result of drinking?

7. Do you turn to lower companions and an inferior invironment when drinking?

8. Does your drinking make you careless of your family's welfare?

9. Has your ambition decreased since drinking?

10. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily?

11. Do you want a drink the next morning?

12. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

13. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking?

14. Is drinking jeopardizing your job, business, school(grades)?

15. Do you drink to escape from worries or troubles?

16. Do you drink alone?

17. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking?

18. Has your physician ever treated you for drinking?

19. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence?

20. Have you ever been to a hospital or institution on account of drinking?








If you have answered YES to any one of the questions, there is a definite 
warning that you may be alcoholic!

If you have answered YES to any two, the chances ate that you are an
alcoholic!

I you have answered YES to three or more, you are definitely an alcoholic!



The above test questions are used by Johns Hopkins University Hospital,
Baltimore, Maryland, in deciding whether a patient is alcoholic.)


Hope this helps some of you your friends or family.


Joni :)