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From: wb@tornado.kodak.com (wb@tornado.kodak.com)
Subject: FOR SALE A.R.T. DrX Digital/Analog effects device
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (Telstar), Rochester, N.Y. 14653
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:07:38 GMT

F O R  S A L E:

A.R.T. DrX Digital/Analog Multi-Effects Device
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*) Upto 10 effects at once(a maximum of 4 digital
   --the usual assortment--  and 6 analog effects
   noise-gate/compressor/limiter/exciter/envelope generator).

*) Very quiet for recording purposes.

It has been used less than 100 hours in my home studio.
Want to sell it to upgrade to Lexicon equipment. It is
in mint condition. It has presets geared towards studio
activity, although any instrumentalist would be happy
with this unit. I have the manual and original packing
material.

$300 (seller will handle shipping)



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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: Korg DSS1 keyboard/sampler/synthesizer
Organization: his wit's end
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:14:42 GMT

Scott Kahn wrote:

 The DSM-1 is a much better choice to pick up used than a DSS-1. It has twice 
 the memory(1mb vs 512kb), is multi-timbral, has eight individual outputs, and 
 loads disks (high density) twice as fast. What it lacks is the programable 
 digital delays, so synthesizer-type sounds aren't as rich sounding (unless you use outboard processors), but it's a more powerful sampler. Additionally, it 
 can read DSS-1 sample disks, while the DSS-1 can't read DSM disks.
      
As I recall, though, the DSM-1 lacks resonant filters.  That's enough of a 
reason for me to avoid grabbing one.

LAiRD

--
ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu           |
ljnelson@amh.amherst.edu            |          The Quintet-essential.
(413) 542-2932                      |
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 16:01:46 CET
From: <ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Korg MS-20 Synth & SQ-10 Seq For Sale
 <1992Sep28.222047.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>

I have also send mail to this person because I'm very interested in the devices
(Ms20/Sq10) .. but I didn't get any answer back !!
.. Hey Where are you ??
Are the Items still for sale ??

CIao




Andrea TONI     ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET        ENV   ENV   ENV
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Subject: Re: Roland SH-xx info (sort of)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:53:18 GMT


In article <2ACB47E8.22710@news.service.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes...
>In article <1992Sep24.174531.17628@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> michael@NSMA.AriZonA.EdU (Michael S. Williams) writes:
>>My 101 is blue (I've heard that they were produced in red and yellow as well),
> 
>	And grey. 

Like mine.
I think that's "Executive Grey."  For us management types.  It would go nicely
with the "Cyberpunk Executive Briefcase" portable PC briefly sold by DEC.
It was made for us by Olivetti.  It really looked wonderful. Matte grey flocked
finish, cool molded-in grid pattern, all kinds of little hatches that
folded-out.   And you can't get them anymore, drat!  They've been replaced
by more practical new models.  But, for lugging along with your analog
monosynth, practicality is not what you need.  It's pose value.

Eirikur Hallgrimsson   |    "Rhodes?  Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!"
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |
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From: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com (Craig Barnes - Sun UK - Senior Systems Admin N + SW Group Regio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: New Ensoniq Synth
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:50:48 GMT
Reply-To: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Has anyone heard about the new megasynth from Ensoniq, 64 note poly, two MIDI outs full support of existing SD1/VFX sounds etc etc...

Craig



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Re: Re: Midi song - "Borderline - Madonna"
Summary: Horse's proverbial mouth?
Organization: Atomic City
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:23:15 GMT

The thing I'm wondering is, has anyone actually picked up the phone and
called Trycho Tunes or one of those other big MIDIfile houses and ASKED
them if they pay royalties? My bet is that they do, probably at the same
rate per copy sold as a band would do for selling a CD with a cover of
another artist's work on it. Pennies per disk, but enough to keep the 
legal end straight. Anyone know for sure?


-- 
metlay            | "Which only goes to prove one thing....
                  |  and I don't know what it is."
                  | 
metlay@netcom.com |                          (n. weinstock)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.misc
From: skt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon K. Train)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: JD800 Cards?
Keywords: card sample JD800
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:06:28 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


 I know there are cards for this (JD800) unit. The rear selection of ports
and slots reveals 2 slots for cards. One slot being for cards which contain
new wave settings and one for cards that contain new _waves_ (PCM samples).
 Has anyone come across details of what wave cards are available. I want to
expand the number of samples/waves my unit has.
 I know there are Roland cards; what about Valhalla etc (third party cards).

 Also, does anyone know about (new) cards for the Yamaha RY30 beatbox.

 Thanks for info.

Simon T.

---------------------------
Simon Train
Support Programmer
CompSci, Glasgow University
skt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
---------------------------
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Synth timbres alone (was Re: I don't think any of us are belittling)
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:55:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: bbx.1504
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Oct5.215241.24593@netcom.com> metlay@netcom.com (metlay) writes:
>In article <1501@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>>I'm not saying that patches can't or shouldn't be reused.  I'm saying
>>that the synth player should be vigilant about the musical reality
>>of what he is doing and have high standards.  I'm frequently
>>guilty of violating this myself.  It's all too easy to think that
>>that latest sound is way cool or that the usual string patch will suffice
>>here.
>
>I think we're getting far afield from the original point of contention,
>here. I agree with this statement. What I disagree with is that a single,
>well-crafted, well-understood, well-played patch on a good synthesizer
>in the hands of an accomplished player can be as enjoyable to listen
>to for a long time as a piano being played by a good pianist. It may be
>a much rarer occurrence, to be sure, but I don't think that it's impossible
>a priori.

OK, I'll go along with you on that point - it's not impossible to have
a great patch that will endure as well as a piano or a violin.  However,
I will submit that most users of electronic keyboards are overly optimistic
about the endurance quotient of their patches.  I've heard too many
sun-in-their-eyes synth players who are satisfied with so little.
Just turn on the radio sometime.

I don't mean to give the impression that I fancy myself some kind of
synth-god.  I sometimes really struggle with the sounds and I'm far
from reaching my desired level of artistic sensibility.  I just know 
what I *won't* settle for.  I can listen to some of my old tapes and
think, "Whoa, I thought that patch was hot shit but now I know better."
That's why I'm so skeptical about these things (the ultimate patch
bank and all).  I spent years fooling myself when all I had to do was 
use my ears.  I was using good equipment for the time and could have 
done much better.

I'm not accusing you or anybody of having their head in the clouds.
However, whan we talk about the "collective" electronic music
industry/community I think that we do have our heads in the clouds.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:29:00 EDT
From:         WSCOTT@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU
Subject:      Re: MPU-401 programming info needed
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

Voyetra publishes a copy of the original Roland technical manual for the
MPU-401 with accompanying notes for understanding the original Japanese/
English translation (which is *very* much needed). They also append C
code for some basic routines for controlling the card. They used to send
it out for $20 or so.

Bill Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: hmikola@polaris.utu.fi (Hannu Tapio Mikola)
Subject: Re: IBM MIDI Card
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 21:59:55 GMT

valaris@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Andrew Valaris) writes:

>I'd like to know if there are any MIDI cards I can connect to an 8-bit bus
>( I have an IBM JX - similar to a jr -similar to an XT ) or am I chasing
>unicorns. I'd like just the basic IN OUT THRU connecters. I intend to use
>it for sequencing only (possible librarian/editor)



I've just bought one engineered by Passport. It is an 8 bit design and only
2/3 height. It has 1 MIDI in and 3 MIDI out connectors (standard DIN-
plugs) and enough variation on IRQ-settings. Strongly recommended.

Hannu Mikola  hmikola@utu.fi
From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MIDI Songs.....( Info about copyright law...)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 00:29:52 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <BvI25p.KvJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> (rec.music.synth), pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (CS223 GRADER) writes:
> 
> If the MIDI file was made by someone on the net just "playing by ear" and
> sharing the file with others, is it really copyright infringement if he just
> posts it to the net?  He's not getting paid to do this.  It's like recording
> a remake or parody on a 4-track and passing tapes around...no big deal, I 
> don't think.
> 
> However, if the MIDI file was arranged by a commercial company such as Tychro
> Tunes, the story would be different.  It's software piracy.
> 
> -Phil
> 
> -- 
> * Phil Scopes (pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
> * University of Illinois
> * Champaign/Urbana
> 

You can find out the fact for *FREE*.  Write or call the US Copyright
Office, The Library Of Congress in Washington, DC and ask for them
to send you the following:

COPYRIGHT LAW OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Circular '92.

The small booklet is about 100 pages and is very easy reading.  For
more real stories on the matter there are a lot of books about the
music business that tell you the truth and common myths about copyright
law as it pertains to music.

David
From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: DX7 list was Re: CZ101 for sale
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:14:25 GMT
Organization: Dicomed, Inc.

In article <vahz7!l@rpi.edu> kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla) writes:
>In <1686E13210.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>>>The possible sounds are great, and it's a hell of a lot better deal than
>>>paying $500 for a DX-7!!!!!
>>>(which is what they're still going for as far as
>>>I know....now that's a real ripoff!!!)
>>Well, at least they aren't going for the original list of $1395.
>
>Eeeeeek!  I paid $2,000 for mine in 1983!  Granted that I was only 14
>at the time, but are you sure it listed for that much lower than I
>paid?  (There were no cool music stores where I lived at that
>time....)
>
>Rob

Beep... HUh? oh, someone's pushing the button.
DX7?  Yeah I also paid about $2000 for mine, just before they raised the
prices again.  A used DX7 may not be worth $500.  A DX7 with a hard case
maybe.  A DX7 with E! definitely.  I have thought about buying an extra
DX7/E! just in case something happens to mine, but I do have the service
manuals, so short of parts becoming unavailable, I should be able to keep
it running for a few more years.  My dream now (one man's dream being another
man's nightmare) would be to get the E! ROM source and a cross assembler so
I could customize it.  

Regards,
Doug Sr.
From: mjp@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Mike Prudence)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:36:14 GMT
Subject: Re: EMAX II Memory Help Needed!
Organization: Hewlett Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth


Per sez:

> I'm familiar with computers and electronics so I took the liberty to open 
> my Emax II, to see if I could upgrade it to 8 Mb or at least 7 Mb, as the
> memory board can be populated with 6 Mb of 44256-80ns DIL chips. 

> Is there any other hardware adjustments needed, PAL changes or anything like 
> that? I tried the hidden mem test function, it turned out ok, but still only
> 3 Mb of ram recogniced. 

I wouldn't take this as gospel, but it might be a place to start...

In a recent conversation with my local Emax II stockist, I enquired
about upgrading the memory by yourself, as I know for a fact that
memory chips come a lot cheaper than the Emu upgrade price.

However, he said that you needed an installation disc - that comes
with the Emu upgrade - to install the new memory, and that this
installation disc *wipes itself* after installation.  It took a mere
few seconds to see that this action would at least discourage people
from trying to do cheap upgrades themselves.

So, it could be that your PS installation disc is indeed nuked, and
you need something to twiddle the Emax config to tell it the extra
memory is there.  If this is the case, about the only thing I could
suggest is to try and find a friendly stockist who might enquire about
getting an install disc for you.  However, don't be surprised if the
cost of such an install disc is the same as a pukka memory upgrade.

At this point, I'd like to do some ranting about the upgrade policy
that many sample manufacturers seem to adopt.  Having paid through the
nose for your sampler - which is essentially a PC plus A/D D/A and DSP
chips - they then seem intent on ripping you off on memory and other
upgrades.  Thankfully, a trend seems to be starting towards using
industry standard SIMM memory modules, and SCSI as standard.  This is
not a moment too soon.

Now all we need is someone to realise that the guts of a PC,
rackmounted, with a couple of high quality audio IO cards is a much
more cost-effective way to make samplers.  I've not done the bus
bandwidth sums, but I'm sure this would fly.

Cheers,

Mike (still smarting over the price of the K2000 in the UK)

mjp@hplb.hpl.hp.com                   "Only those who attempt the absurd will 
                                                     achieve the impossible."

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.audio.pro
From: bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov ()
Subject: Re: Low cost A/D w/ AES/EBU output?? (was Re: Comments/Experiences/Recommendations on Emu EIIIxp)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:06:57 GMT

In article <MAYER.92Sep25182924@hplnpm1.hpl.hp.com> mayer@hplnpm1.hpl.hp.com (Niels P. Mayer) writes:
[...stuff deleted]
>
>It seems that getting a pro DAT deck with AES/EBU digital outs is the
>cheapest way to add an A/D converter to a low end digital studio... So far
>I've found two units that'll do the trick:
>
>	* Tascam DA-30 -- $1000.00 (retail)
>		* two separate 16bit 64x oversampling delta-sigma A/D's
>		* doesn't require a DAT cassette in order to do A/D conv.
>		* "AES/EBU digital interface bypasses copy prohibit mode"
>	* Panasonic SV-3700 -- $1350.00 (retail)
>		* two separate 16 bit 64x oversampling delta-sigma A/D's
>		* to use as A/D converter, requires a DAT casette to be
>		  inserted, with unit placed in record-pause mode....
>		* SCMS can be disabled via dip/switch on the back
>
>Anybody have any preferences/recommendations for either of the above
>models?

>
>Know of others DATs w/ AES/EBU outs that I should look at?
>
>Which unit has the best-sounding analog input and A/D section? (The specs
>show that the Tascam unit is better...). Since I'm primarily interested in
>the A/D, the fancy DAT features of the Panasonic are just icing...

I've been told by two independent sources (one of whom I respect) that the 
SV-3700 sounds better ("warmer" was what one source said).  I seem to be unable to 
talk anyone into letting me take one of each home for some critical listening, so 
I'm just reporting what I was told; trying to form a coherent opinion in-store,
listening to typical studio monitors over 110dB of guitar-hero racket, is simply 
not possible.

RE prices:  As of two days ago Sweetwater Sound was selling DA-30s for $950,
and also met another price quote I had of $1200 on the 3700. 

--
brian good                     
NASA Lewis Research Center     
bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: SMPTE Woes
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:52:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: bbx.1458
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <skipa.717751230@milton> skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson) writes:
>b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com (Kevin Brislin) writes:
>
>
>>	I am having a problem using SMPTE sync in my studio. I'm using an Outbound
>>2030 notebook computer with Vision 1.4 and a Tascam 244 Portastudio for
>>analog tracks. Vision recognizes the SMPTE track and displays timecode with
>>no problem, but once I specify the offset (the starting point that I want
>>the sequence to start following the tape) Vision will only play for a few
>>seconds and then drop sync. I've tried this with different tapes, two different
>>recorders, and many different recording levels...all to no avail.
>>	Does anyone have an idea what is going on and why this is happening? I've
>>called Outbound and Opcode on this, but both point to each other as the
>>blame even though they can't substantiate why. Help!!!
>>Kevin
>
>Could this have to do with the noise reduction (DBX or whatever)
>circuitry that is implicit in the 244 (and can't be turned-off)?  Maybe
>your SMPTE code is being filtered out!

I have been able to use both SMPTE and FSK codes on a 244 with non-defeatable
DBX.  However, it is *very* shakey and I strongly recommend against trying.
You will lose sync frequently and it's not worth the trouble.  Once I
got a 688 (with defeatable DBX on track 8) I learned what *real* syncing
is like.  Much better.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:34:00 EDT
From:         WSCOTT@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU
Subject:      Re: K2000R should be ready shortly.
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

From -Z:
"I can't see how the same designers that get away with putting in the
brain dead MIDI (which you can't interconnect with the rest of the
world regardless of how many MIDI ports they give you), would be
ridiculed for giving you only one SCSI connector (which you can fix
by using a different cable). "

You're right. A different cable would solve the problem, but a logical
chain would be K2000 controller, then K2000R, maybe another K2000r, then
hard disk drive. If the K2000R only had one SCSI port, it would be seen
as a flaw by the reviewers. This is all a nitpick. But, if I go into
a store and the sales droid starts telling me the K2000R is worth as
much as the keyboard version because it has an "extra" or "additional"
SCSI port, I'm not going to be impressed. The K2000R might be worth
something because it saves space, and, as mentioned before, because
I can sneak it into my system without the significant other noticing
the addition. It doesn't have a nifty name like the K2000breadmaker
that allows other modules to be slipped in.

Bill Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: Vintage Synth Re-Issues, what do you think?  Would you buy?
Summary: good things come in packages that are too damn big.
Organization: Friends of Tank Girl
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:33:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.020719.21799@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes:
>You know, playing around with a Fender synth. has made me think about applying
>their vintage guitar re-issue concept to synth marketing.....
>
>What would your list of re-issues look like?  Would you buy them?

Well, we're pretty firmly entrenched in Fantasyland, here, since recreating
old synths and bringing them to market would cost far more than what the
few potential lunatic fringe buyers could absorb.

That said, (tee hee) I'd personally like to see some of the more exotic
beasts I've never had the opportunity to play, let alone own. Let's
see: OSCar, Kawai SX240, Putney, Synthi AKS.  And yes, the Synthex. 'Cause
I've never even *heard* of it. 

>Of the above, I'd probably buy the Synthex, and the Taurus. I have a Chroma,
>and I don't do House :-)

Neither does my MiniMoog.


-- 
| Randy Jones          | "Dos, cuatro, seis, seis. Cinco, cinco, quatro, seis. 
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu |  tres, dos, cuatro, dos. Cuatro, cuatro, seis, seis."
| 608 259 9674         |                                  -9.95 MHz, 3:20 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: carhart@netcom.com (Raymond E. Carhart)
Subject: anyone familiar with Dick Hyman Moog albums?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:06:04 GMT


Hi
I am posting to "bluenote" as well, (maybe that is how Dick Hyman is
better known..).  I grew up with Hyman's albums on the Moog synthesizer:
The Age of Electronicus and Electric Eclectics, and Walter Sear's
album The Copper-Plated Integrated Circuit.  

I listened to these incessantly for years and years.. I heard their versions
of Hey Jude, Revolution, Obladi Oblada and Blackbird years before I ever
heard the originals.  If anyone is familiar with these albums, and can tell
me if there are more or the other work of Hyman and Sear, (i know Hyman
has done a lot of jazz piano?) please mail me at ukevc@mcl.ucsb.edu

Kevin

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: johnd@lloyd.Camex.COM (John Duesenberry)
Subject: Re: Comments/Experiences/Recommendations on Emu EIIIxp
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:42:06 EDT

Could you descrive the voice architecture and signal-processing options
of the EIIIXP? How does it compare in these respects to the Emax II?
Does it have additive synthesis or xform mult. features like the Emax?