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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: New Attractions
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:23:21 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:

>NO!!!!  Damn him!  Won't Disneyland *ever* get to keep anything unique
>to itself?!?

Not unless it makes good business sense to do so, Tigger.

What's the advantage of putting something in one park only? Nothing, unless
it's something that's a big enough draw that it'll bring in tourists just to
see it. 

That's not very likely in this case. Tourists either come to Disneyland or
they don't, and a single attraction isn't going to affect travel decisions
significantly.

On the other hand, migrating a successful attraction to all the park allows
them to:

1) make it available to larger audiences overall through multiple venues.
2) enhance the enjoyment of all the parks (and all the visitors at them)
3) spread out the R&D and development costs, since it's a lot cheaper to
   build the second, third and fourth ones than the first, which has the
   added bonus of allowing them to do more development overall.

Disneyland doesn't need unique widgets to make it special, anyway.
-- 
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms
From: jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW lodging
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:06:43 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY

In article <1992Sep29.181554.20983@genie.slhs.udel.edu> julie@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Julie Hu) writes:
>I am interested in lodging information outside WDW.  Has anyone stayed at the
>Days Inn in Orlando?  Are there any recommendations on any other inexpensive
>places? Comfort Inn?  Any info would be appreciated! :-)

Well, Julie, you'll have to be a little more specific. When we made our 
reservations last year, the travel agent told us there were 28 Days Inns in
the Orlando area. We stayed at one, and it was nice. Not fabulous, but on the
whole, it was acceptable.

"I can open your eyes, 
Take you wonder by wonder			()_()
Over, sideways, and under			 (_)
On a magic carpet ride.

A whole new world!
A new fantastic point of view.		   Jad R. J. Jordan
No one to tell us, "No."		  MOSCOM Corporation.
Or where to go--			   jrjj@moscom.com
Or say we're only dreaming.

A whole new world!
A dazzling place I never knew.	
But now from way up here			()_()
It's crystal-clear				 (_)
That now I'm in a
Whole new world with you!" 
	- "Whole New World" from ALADDIN
From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Subject: Re: B&B Laser Video Disc
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:20:23 GMT

In article <Bvo1ny.7Jy@nic.umass.edu> ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER) writes:
>In article <6!rz6=@rpi.edu> ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu writes:
>>Paul Goodwin <CC100PG@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU> writes:
>>
>>That sounds more like the version they showed at..umm...somewhere in
>>New York, I think before it was released in full.  It is the almost
>>completed version, but with some scenes not yet painted, and some
>>alternate scenes.
>>-- 
>>---
>It is a version that was shown in many of the larger cities.  This disc (as
>far as I have heard) will only be available for a limited time and only in
>CAV.  I do not know the specific details except it is exactly what the 
>title suggests, a work-in-progress edition.

Is this LD available for pre-order anywhere yet? How much is it? I
asked the local Sam Goody's recently and they had no idea what I was
talking about. 


   ---> farul ghazali.
        columbia university, new york.
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Animation Tour
Distribution: world
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:39:03 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In the Animation Tour at the Disney-MGM Studios and at the Disneyana
convention, they are talking about Aladdin (now completed), The Lion
King (in production in California), and Pocahontas (also CA). Work on
the latest Roger Rabbit short, "Trail Mix-Up", can be seen being
worked on in the tour. Backgrounds are being painted, cels are being
pencil-drawn, and you can see these pencil drawings edited into a
videotape pencil test. Computers can be seen in abundance -- one was
being used to adjust the timing of what looked to be a sequence from
"Trail Mix-Up" where something falls while attached to a rope (it was
only black and white outline and across the room, so it was hard to
make out what it is).  "Trail Mix-Up" will be released with the live
action feature "A Far Off Place".
 
What you can see of Aladdin in the tour are models, conceptual drawings,
and completed backgrounds -- some of which look computer rendered.
 
There are sketches and conceptual backgrounds of The Lion King on display.
 
Conceptual drawings of Pocahontas can be seen as well.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Internet: rich_koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
    UUCP: rex!agwbbs!rich_koster
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From: ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER)
Subject: Re: B&B Laser Video Disc
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:45:32 GMT

In article <6!rz6=@rpi.edu> ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu writes:
>Paul Goodwin <CC100PG@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU> writes:
>
>>Really?  I had heard from Blockbuster (and from a Disney store) that it should
>>be out around late January of 1993...
>
>That sounds more like the version they showed at..umm...somewhere in
>New York, I think before it was released in full.  It is the almost
>completed version, but with some scenes not yet painted, and some
>alternate scenes.
>-- 
>---
It is a version that was shown in many of the larger cities.  This disc (as
far as I have heard) will only be available for a limited time and only in
CAV.  I do not know the specific details except it is exactly what the 
title suggests, a work-in-progress edition.
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Subject: Re: aristocats
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:55:39 PDT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield
Summary: Holiday time

In article <BvArGz.JDz@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rebecca S
. Lawrence) writes:
>
>Does anyone know when disney is plannig to release The Aristocat again?
>It's my favorite movie, and I missed it the last time it was released....
It's my second favorite.
In the theater a few months ago I was seeing promos that said it would be
relaeased in the theaters around Christmas time.

>Becky Lawrence                |  I saw you two days ago, I saw you 
>rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu    | yesterday, I saw you today, but I 
>VPI & SU                      | must see you tomorrow as well....
>Blacksburg, VA                |     I LOVE YOU KEVEN
						^^^^^
Sounds pretty serious.  For me, I'd put in "MARC".
Jennifer
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From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: B&B Laserdisc
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:14:50 GMT

> ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER) writes:
>Disney has announced that they will be releasing the work-in-progress
>edition of Beauty and the Beast in letterbox.  It will cost somewhere in
>the are of 40 to 50 dollars.

Retail at the local store was $49.95.  But the local store also
gave a 15% discount for pre-ordering.  Guess what I did?  :-)

>For those of you who do not know, the work-in-
>progress version of Beauty and the Beast consists of finished and unfinished
>clips of the movie.

Just to clarify this even further, it *is* the entire movie.  You
just dip back and forth between storyboards, pencil art, cleaned
art (w/ and w/out effects), and the finished colored art.  It's
pretty neat.

>Unfortunately, I have heard rumors that this is the only
>letterboxed version of the film coming out.

I've heard from a friend whose dealer heard from the distributor
[convoluted, I know, but it seemed reliable enough to post about] that
the September 1993 laser disc will be both letterboxed and CAV. 

>Also,
>what's up with this year difference between VHS and LaserDisc.

Think about it this way.  Video tape is copyguardable.  Few people have
the wherewithal to make a copy of a Disney home video that doesn't blink
in and out.  Laserdisks aren't copyguarded.  You can tape from the disk,
and it's likely to be better quality than the mass-produced tape.  And
it doesn't blink.  And it's letterboxed.

BEAUTY AND THE BEAST just opened in Tokyo.

Stop and think about that for a second, and you'll see why
there's a year's delay.

What I want to know is why the work-in-progress version has the
alternate "Be Our Guest" instead of the story-boards and
demo track for "Human Again."  Oh, well, maybe they'll put it
together with the Disney Channel's "Making of" special and the
finished version of the movie.

--Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom
-- 
------------------------|  "Yo, Rug-man!  Haven't seen you in a few millenia!
kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |  Give me some tas-*sel*!"
------------------------|                  -- The Genie, ALADDIN.
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From: singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde)
Subject: Re: UK B&B
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 10:26:38 GMT

In article <15509@suns7.crosfield.co.uk>, gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp) writes:
|> Well, it's not far away now. 
|> 
|> Of course I refer to the UK launch of Beauty & the Beast. I was privileged to 
|> view the film earlier this year at WDW.
|> 
|> But why has it taken so long to swim the atlantic ?
|> 

THAT's a very good question!!

All Disney animated features are released in Europe one year after the US launch.
If you have a multisystems VCR (PAL & NTSC) you can buy the tape (in the US)
just before the European release.

I don't know why!?


Kurt.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Subject: Re: Star Tours
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:54:26 GMT

In article <BvGHw3.3r3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sturgeal@sage.cc.purdue.edu (tony sturgeon) writes:
>
>
>   I was just wondering if anyone had heard if Disney and George Lucas
>had planned to make any changes to Star Tours.  I am a huge Disney and
>Star Wars fan and Star Tours is my favorite ride in the entire world.
>I have always hoped that they would consider making each shuttle a
>different trip.  For example, one could be a trip to Endor (similar to
>the one now, except it might actually stop there) and the other could
>go to Hoth.  I do not know how much of a problem it would be to update
>the ride every five or so years, but I do believe that it would be
>greatly appreciated by returning visitors.
>
>Tony Sturgeon
>Purdue University



 my roommate this summer in the college program worked Star Tours, and
 she said that there was a rumor to update the voyage, but no definite 
 plans.  It would not be in the immediate future, however.

-Denise
*******
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER
DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Computer-animated feature
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:27:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep28.082745.10195@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO) writes:
>-- 
>But that's exactly what Disney announced about year ago.  They announced
>that they would be releasing about 3 future animated films to be produced
>by Pixar.  And that Disney would only be involved so far as to be releasing
>them.
>
>
>John Heiden


Actually, I know of Disney's early hints and later announcements--I
read them in Business Week and elsewhere.  But due to the inherent
uncertainty of the entertainment "industry," almost anything's
partly rumor until someone in the company actually tells me that
they're working on it.  Right now, the uncertainty is exactly how
long it will take to finish it.  The next two features may not even
be produced in this century if the first one fails, unless a long-
term contract has already been negotiated.  My impression is that
Pixar has been quite hesitant, since they've been thinking about it
for several years.


- Robert Cook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: tad@Ingres.COM (Tom Drynda)
Subject: Re: Lady and the Tramp
Reply-To: tad@Ingres.COM (Tom Drynda)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:27:44 GMT

In article <84117@bcsaic.boeing.com> vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver) writes:
| In article <92272.215157ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
| >Does anyone know if "Lady and the Tramp" is out on video?  I've been
| >looking for it, but can't find it anywhere!
| >
| Yes, unfortunately, it is on the "Been and Gone" list!  Also known as
| "hard to find!"  I've heard that sometimes, new video stores open up and
| get copies from some secret place.  Look hard at your video rental
| outlets.  Maybe you can talk them out of a copy!
| 

	Well, I'm not sure how much good this'll do you, but I
noticed that the Disney Store in Regents Street, London, England
had quite a few copies of it.

	Their phone number is : +71 287 6558

| Yes - I believe that SOMEDAY it will be released, although no Disney
| videos have been yet.

	Not quite sure what you're trying to say there....


		Tom.

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From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW lodging
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:02:49 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Sep29.181554.20983@genie.slhs.udel.edu>, julie@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Julie Hu) writes:
> I am interested in lodging information outside WDW.  Has anyone stayed at the
> Days Inn in Orlando?  Are there any recommendations on any other inexpensive
> places? Comfort Inn?  Any info would be appreciated! :-)
> 
> 
-- 
Well, a little over a week ago, I saw at least a few of motels advertising
rates around $20 per night.  And at least a couple were advertising around
$17.95 per night.  And these were chains like Quality Inn or Days Inn.
I know I saw at least one Quality or Days Inn for $17.95 right at one of
the entrances.  I've been told by at least one friend that the place is
decent.  May not be the Taj Mahal, but still nice.  I can't remember if
the place was at the entrance by "Crossroads" or on I-92 near the entrance.
But each is close and only a brief drive to anywhere at Disney World.

John Heiden
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Heiden

                                       Dept. of Computer Services

CSCON134@Uoft02.UTOLEDO.EDU            The University of Toledo
CSCON134@Uoft02.BITNET                 Toledo, Ohio     U.S.A.
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From: kolt@quads.uchicago.edu (Matt K/Gonzo)
Subject: Re: December @ WDW
Reply-To: kolt@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:35:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.224958.20283@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> cmv@looney.ih.att.com (Craig M. Votava) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.214158.21763@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>,
>mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>
>|> Can somebody make a distinction between visiting WDW 
>|> the first week in December (December 2-6) vs. the second
>|> week (December 9-13).
>
>I called and asked about the hours of operation that will be in effect during
>this time. Here's the response I got. All of these times are still TENTATIVE:
>
>Magic Kingdom:
>	Dec 1-6		9am-7pm
>	Dec 7-?		9am-6pm
I can't imagine that they would _really_ close the park at 18. We only do that 
for Christmas Eve. Though the experiment last year with EC closing @ 20 was 
successful (and one can see below will be repeated), I just can't see closing
at 18. 
>
>EPCOT:
>	Dec 1-6		9am-9pm
>	Dec 7-?		9am-8pm
>
>MGM
>	All month	9am-7pm
>
I haven't seen the new op. calendar...it usu comes out a coupla weeks b4 the
new 4 month period (Oct starts the next one). It hasn't surfaced. I will post
hours as soon as I see them.

BTW---ALL:  THE PARKS ARE DEAD NOW. There are no waits for most attractions and
small waits for popular attractions. This is a time to go, if you don't care 
about missing those things which only happen during busy times. (Studio 
Fireworks, MK Fireworks, Spectro, etc.)

"Excuse me, what time are the 3 O'clock fireworks?"
Matt



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From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW lodging
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:43:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: mksol.1992Sep29.214307.21533
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support


In article <1992Sep29.181554.20983@genie.slhs.udel.edu>, julie@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Julie Hu) writes:
>I am interested in lodging information outside WDW.  Has anyone stayed at the
>Days Inn in Orlando?  Are there any recommendations on any other inexpensive
>places? Comfort Inn?  Any info would be appreciated! :-)
We stayed at Comfort Inn.  Our price was $39.95/night, but when the van pulled
up, their big crawler sign said $29.95/night.  Surprisingly, we were the only
ones to ask for, and get, the lower rate!  So it never hurts to ask.

Needed details:  Buses are free, early and reasonably frequent.  I have no idea
what their restaraunt is like, never ate there.  They did have a little to-go
continental breakfast, which we did get (milk, cereal, danish).  Rooms were,
well rooms.  They have a little safe, USE IT.  Hot water in the morning, A/C
when you want it.  And pretty good access from the airport.

The guy that drove our van offered to stop at any hotel we wanted if we saw a
better price, but admitted that, on that day, Comfort Inn had the best. 
--
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From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Subject: Re: B&B Laserdisc
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:35:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.031450.4488@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
>
>I've heard from a friend whose dealer heard from the distributor
>[convoluted, I know, but it seemed reliable enough to post about] that
>the September 1993 laser disc will be both letterboxed and CAV. 

This is good news!

>demo track for "Human Again."  Oh, well, maybe they'll put it
>together with the Disney Channel's "Making of" special and the
>finished version of the movie.
>

The Beauty and the Beast gift set is supposed to have the "Work in
Progress" tape (letterboxed, BTW) with the "Making of" special tacked
onto the end. My friend just pre-ordered hers for $75 which is for the
B&tB video tape, the "Works in Progress" and "Making of" special, the
soundtrack on CD and a lithograph of Beast and Belle (they were on the
balcony, after the ballroom sequence, if I'm not mistaken).

It seems pretty good, but I'll wait for the LD.

   ---> farul ghazali.
        columbia university in the city of new york.
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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: WDW/DL Height Restrictions
Organization: Pomona College
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:09:59 PDT

In article <731@mtinews.mti.com>, adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy) writes:
> 
> There was a *rumor* that one of the delays in the overdue opening of
> *Disneyland's* Splash Mountain was that they made high-capacity logs
> (8 or 9 people max instead of 7).  The longer logs didn't negotiate the
> flume properly, and they had to use the more traditional 7-passenger ones.

For what it's worth, a friend who was a cast member at that time told
me that the original, larger logs picked up too much speed down the
flume and caused injuries to the test dummies.  Eventually a new
braking system was installed and smaller logs were fashioned.

Believe it or not, as you choose.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Goodbye and Disneyland FAQ
Date: 25 Sep 92 18:24:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA
Originator: adrian@mti

Three folks volunteered and agreed to cooperate to maintain the Disneyland
FAQ list:  Walt Hoffman, Jonathan Knowles, and Greg Orman.  I'm sure they'll
do a great job.

Please don't send any email to adrian@mti.com or adrian@lexcel.com, as those
won't be valid after today.

Thanks for the great conversations.

Adrian "Aid" McCarthy