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From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: Stuff to do in the fall?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:31:12 GMT

In article <DAVE.92Aug24183536@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> dave@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele) writes:
>Hi, Tokyo-ites and otherwise,
>
>I'm living in Kawasaki, getting to know the nitty-gritty of life in Tokyo.
>Soon (October or so) I will fly out my two best friends from San Francisco
>to stay with me for a couple of weeks.
>
>I figure I can fill about a week of their time with everyday Tokyo sort of
>entertainment.  However, I have never spent autumn in Tokyo, so I don't
>know what seasonal diversions may await us.
>
>I would like to pick the dates of their (approximately two-week) stay to
>correspond with the most `entertaining' time possible.  I can fill some of
>the time with trips to Sapporo (I have friends there) and maybe some other
>places, but the high cost of travel here severely limits that option.
>
>What do y'all netters think may be entertaining in Tokyo's (or Kanto's) autumn?
>
>Qualification: My friends are liberal, middle-class San Franciscans in
>their late twenties, who think it's hilarious that I live here, and demand
>that I come home before happy-hour.  I myself find my situation both
>comical and tragic at the same time.  However, I would like to reveal as
>much of the Love side of my Love-Hate relationship with Japan as I
>possibly can.
>
>Thanks!
>-----
>  $@%o%F%k(J $@%G%#%S%C%H!w0BED8&(J. $@EE;R9)3X@l96(J. $@9)3X7O8&5f2J(J. $@El5~Bg3X(J. $@=$;N(J1$@G/(J.
>David Wuertele, Yasuda Lab, Electronic Engineering, Institute of Industrial Science,
>University of Tokyo.				dave@windsor.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp
>

1. Take them to Shinjuku Gyoen (garden/park 1 mi. SE from
Shinjuku) and the Sankeien garden in south Yokohama.

2. Go for a full-day hiking trip to Kamakura (south of
Yokohama). Get off the train in Kita-Kamakura, and with
a map in hand, visit the many temples and
shrines (Wash-Money, Big Buddha etc) on your way
through the wooded hills to Kamakura. It's going 
to be great there in September.

Tony
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.history
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: US colonializing (Was: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:11:53 GMT

In article <ROTEN.92Aug31133031@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov> roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten) writes:
>In article <jwb.715225686@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> 
>jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:
>
>>miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:
>
>>>	I have seen this argument before, and it is hard for me to understand.
>>>	The US was far superior in industrial and military capacity to Japan
>>>	at the time Japan was grabbing its sphere of influence in the 1890's.
>>>	In fact, the Russo-Japanese War was largely fought with war ships
>>>	made in the US and the UK to order of the combatants.  

>>>       By the end
>>>	of the US Civil War the US had the best Army and largest Navy in the
>>>	world, and at any time after that could have carved out whatever
>>>	piece of China she had a desire for.  

>I'm glad you flamed him about this, Jim, because if you hadn't, I would 

???

>have.  There is only one significant naval innovation the U. S. made 
>before 1900, the ironclad.  And that was _immediately_ copied.  

It is difficult to see how this is relevant. The Japanese at the time had no
innovations at all, yet managed to defeat, in succesive naval encounters,
2 nations with larger fleets; both China and Russia had numerically (at 
least) superior fleets.

>As for the U. S. Army, even by 1865, it had not managed to rise to the 
>high standards set by Prussia.  And, as you say, it promptly went to 
>seed after the Civil War.  Sir John Hackett, in 'The Profession of Arms', 
>discusses this peculiarly American military malaise at some length.  

Again, this doesn't seem relevant to the issue of taking territory from China.
And as the Germans were to find out, it would only take the Americans about a
year to get themselves to the level where the Prussians would take them very
seriously indeed. 

Also, how is this a "peculiarly American military malaise"? If a good army
goes to seed in peacetime, what does it mean, except perhaps that significant
military action is not contempleted for the immediate future?

Finally, how do any of these objections relate to, what I am assuming most
would agree, our superiority to the CHINESE armies and navies, which were, 
after all, responsible for preventing foreign powers from gaining concessions 
by force of arms? If you wanted to point out that the US might not have relished
the idea of trying to carve up a nation that already had Japan, Britain, France,
and Tsarist Russia making land grabs, I could see this as a valid argument.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:07:24 GMT

davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

>Yesterday, I summarized what has been said recently here for the
>benefit of the 15 members of discussion group I lead in Osaka. They
>pointed out that ITHO (In Their Humble Opinion)  [......]
> the original entry of the JIA into China was at the
>request of the then rebel, now current communistic government in
>order to defeat the nationalists. 

A strange opinion, and one which reflects poorly on the post-war Japanese education 
system.

There is no evidence from the pre-war period of such a call by the Chinese 
communists for help. If anything, the truth was the opposite, when the Kuomintang
and the communists split up in the 20s, the emerging nationalist leadership were
not averse to encouraging the Japanese, by now well entrenched in Manchuria, into
attacking the communists at every opportunity.

A disinterested study of the history of that area  leads one, IMHO, to the
inescapable conclusion that the Japanese oligarchy was hell-bent on "intruding" on
China from before the Sino-Japanese war of the 1890s, and that the "Peking Incident"
was just one of the many manufactured precedents to provide justification.

-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:26:37 GMT

smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

>>A disinterested study of the history of that area  leads one, IMHO, to the
>>inescapable conclusion that the Japanese oligarchy was hell-bent on "intruding"
>>on China from before the Sino-Japanese war of the 1890s...

>In light of the fact that Britian, Germany, and a few other western powers had
>already "intruded" into China from monetary gain I suspect that it could be
>argued that Japan was simply taking a piece of the pie for themselves.

>I am not suggesting that this justifies anything. I am only pointing out that
>Japan was not the only country eating away at China's sovereignty.

You are absolutely correct. One of the (many) injustices that peeved the Japanese
government late in the last century and in the first half of this one was the way
the western "powers" considered they had a god-given right to carve out colonial
empires in Asia, and no-one else did. The Intervention in which the UK, France,
Germany and Russia forced Japan to give up some of the Chinese territory they 
snatched in the 1890s was racially inspired, to put it mildly.

Ironically, the nation that first taught Japan that international diplomacy
was most effectively carried out at gun-point was the US. The memories of
Commodore Perry and the Black Ships lasted a long time.
-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI)
Subject: Re: Is MAZDA a Japanese word?
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:39:55 GMT

In article <14767@mindlink.bc.ca> twt@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson) writes:
 |Hi.  My friend Stan is the happy owner of a Mazda 626.  Is Mazda a
 |Japanese word or name?  The sequence /zd/ does not normally occur
 |in Romaji: is the name actually Matsuda?  What is the origin of the
 |name of this brand of car, and how is it represented in Kanji (if
 |it can be)?

 I hear it comes from Persian 'Ahura Mazda', God of Zoroastriansm, but
I'm not sure. At first, they made lamps.

 I add its kanji notation in my last lines (except my signature). If
your terminal can handle JIS Kanji, you'll read it. It is the family
name of the founder.

 Does anyone confirm it?

Regards,

$@>>ED(J
--
Hidekazu TOZAKI
Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
E-mail: tozaki@nak.math.keio.ac.jp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pasqual@athena.mit.edu (Hiroshi Kawai)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<SMITTIE.92Aug20160552@beach.csulb.edu> <dyang.714723340@cunews>
	<Aug25.161840.39862@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:56:45 GMT

In article <Aug25.161840.39862@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:

   In article <dyang.714723340@cunews> dyang@diana.carleton.ca (Dong Yang) writes:
   >
   [stuff deleted]

   >Yes, we were taugt by photo evidence. I saw a picture that two
   >Japanese soldiers held cut-off bloody Chinese heads, and laughed;
   >a picture that a baby was poked by a Japanese soldier; a picture 
   >that a pregant woman died with stomach being brutally opened by
   >knife...  These pictures can be seen in war exhibitions in many
   >cities in China or text books describing Nanjing massacre.
   >
   >I guess you have never seen those kind pictures in Japan. But I have

	   They are available in Japan.  Some magazines and books about WW II
	   have them.

	   I haven't seen ones like Mr. Yang mentioned above, though, I saw a 
	   picture of (praobably) a Chinese man, kneeling if front of a ditch on
	   the ground, a Japanese soldier pointing his handgun at the back of 
	   the victim's head.  Of course, the ditch was what the Chinese man dug
	   for his own burial.   


						   Tetsuya Nishimura

======

Hi everbody!  This is my first post, so apologies for any typos and mistakes.

Talking about books on World War II, I found an excellent book which documents
some of the atrocities of the Imperial Army during the war.  It is called
"The Pacific War" and is by Ienaga Saburo.  The book is available in both
English and Japanese.  I was required to read it for my Japanese History class
and I found it VERY enlightening.  I myself attended a Japanese elementary and
middle school and no where do I recall reading about the horrible crimes
committed during the war in my history books.  It was shocking to find out
about these horrors, but I am glad a read the book -- it has presented a whole
new perspective on relationships.  I recommend this book to anybody who wants
to know more about Japan's involvement in WW II.


						Kawai Hiroshi


P.S.: S.C.J. is great!  =)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@hardy.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: Attempt on Miyazawa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:27:32 GMT

fester@etorofu.island.COM writes:
>Last night, NHK reported that an attempt was apparantly made on the life
>of Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa. A man driving a small truck with 3 propane.
>tanks tried to drive into Miyazawa's residence. [...] Any other details?

I heard that he was a known right-wing radical. Supposedly it was a gesture of
protest against the emperor's visit to China.

Bigger news I heard this morning was the resignation of deputy prime minister
of the Libral Democratic Party, Shin Kanemaru (aka Godfather of Japanese 
politics).  Apparently it had something to do with the Sagawakyuubin scandal
in which many politicians received illegal political funds (bribes, that is).
The same news report mentioned that since prime minister Miyazawa was heavily
backed by Kanemaru, this could be the beginning of the end of (upper-level
political) life for Mr. Miyazawa.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:7401 soc.culture.china:24144 soc.culture.hongkong:10222 soc.culture.taiwan:12509
From: yokoyama@ee.ualberta.ca (Masami Yokoyama)
Subject: Compatibility of DOS/V and DOS 5.0
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:02:15 GMT

Hello,

Thank you to those who responded to me about "Ichitaro" on IBM machine.
Anyway, I was able to know that I need DOS/V to run "Ichitaro" on IBM
machine.  Can anyone tell me how much is the DOS/V compatible with DOS 5?
I mean, will all the application softwares which run in DOS 5 run under
DOS/V?  If not, then can you tell me what will run, and what will not?
Again, please e-mail me so that I will not miss any information.

Thanks in advance.

Masami Yokoyama

e-mail : yokoyama@bode.ee.ualberta.ca
From: ichikawa@cs.uiuc.edu (Itaru Ichikawa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Is MAZDA a Japanese word?
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:07:36 GMT
Reply-To: ichikawa@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: HCI Lab., Dept. Comp. Sci. UIUC, IL, USA.

In article <TOZAKI.92Sep2033953@radish.math.keio.ac.jp> 
	tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) writes:
> I hear it comes from Persian 'Ahura Mazda', God of Zoroastriansm, but
>I'm not sure. At first, they made lamps.

I heard the light bulb company named after `Ahura Mazda', as you mentioned,
had become up "Toshiba."  The Mazda lamps were made by Tokyo-denki 
which jointed with Shibaura-denki and became Toshiba.  (somebody in Toshiba 
please check it with your company's history ...  I may mistaken about this...)

Matsuda, automobile manufacturer, its formal (or previous) name is "Toyo
kougyou," they were found by and still controlled by the Matsuda family.   

And Matsuda has professional baseball team of (Japan) central reague,
Hirosima (toyo) Carp.  This team was funded by the Hirosima city.
Now its owner is Kohei Matsuda who used to be the president of "Matsuda."

---(( ))
I.Ichikawa 	UIUC Visiting Scholar from Fujitsu Labs. Kawasaki Japan. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:08:57 GMT

>In article <1992Aug27.210708.17263@Princeton.EDU> karchang@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kar Man Chang) writes:
>>I don't think you can blame the voters for not changing the government
>>or influencing the politicians on this matter.  It is probably not an
>>important issue at all within Japan.  What Japan needs is politicians
>>with a world vision.  Without satisfactorily handling the aftermath of
>>the war, Japan probably will not get the kind of support it hopes to 
>>get from its East Asian neighbours.
 
Maybe.  But that's the case Japan has to resolve by itself.  Until, then
we will hear discomforting words.

In article <1992Aug29.145343.16617@r-node.gts.org> yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes (in response to above post by Kar Man Chang):
>Then, again, any good will gesture from the Japanese will be met with
>skepticism from her neighbours. If she even try to increase her political
>influences, then there can only be out right hostility from everybody.
>The Americans yell "Pearl Harbour!" just because they are voluntarily
>buying Japanese goods.

This paragraph is an assumption before the act, act as to "have we seen
enough of good will gesture?"  Any good will gesture is to sooth victims.  
Balance of what is enough of good will gesture versus fairness in the minds 
of victims is something to be seen at a later time.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: OFFENSIVE MESSAGES
From: salina@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:26:21 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <AZEGAMI.92Sep3085043@uranus.flab.fujitsu.co.jp>, azegami@flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Azegami Kengo) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep2.153410.1887@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daniel Saltel) writes:
> 
>>   Somebody has got into my user-id and has sent offensive messages.
>>   I am sorry that this has happened.
>>   This has been very upsetting.
> 
> This taught us a good lesson,
>    "Don't stay off of your machine which is being logged on"
> 
>    HUH??
> 
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                      Azegami, Kengo ( $@HJ>e(J  $@8,8c(J )
>                      $@IY;NDL8&5f=j(J($@3t(J) $@=8@Q%7%9!K(J1$@8&(J  
>                      Tel:(0462)48-3111 (4511) /  Fax:(0462)49-6695
>                      E-mail:azegami@flab.fujitsu.co.jp
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am sorry for you, too.
But your message is irrelavent to this newsgroup.  You are only wasting
people's
time here to read your message.

BTW, I think all of us know that we should not leave our machines logged on
when we are not around!

-Sal-
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Toto Washolet
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:55:07 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

I'm looking for details on Toto (not Matsushita or any other brands) washolet
toilet seats.  Specifically, prices, features, discount shops that carry them
in the Tokyo area, size and weight of package (I want to haul it home), options,
requirements for installation, etc.

If it's not too big and heavy, I'll consider taking it back to the US as a gift
for my parents.  Kanji or hiragana controls are OK.

I remember seeing them in Tokyu Hands but as I recall they were extremely
expensive (at retail prices).  My friends tell me they are available at
discount shops.
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From: twt@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Is MAZDA a Japanese word?
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:41:57 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hi.  My friend Stan is the happy owner of a Mazda 626.  Is Mazda a
Japanese word or name?  The sequence /zd/ does not normally occur
in Romaji: is the name actually Matsuda?  What is the origin of the
name of this brand of car, and how is it represented in Kanji (if
it can be)?

Thanks a lot,
Tom
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|       aka: Hylas      |        `Lotusland'         |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: corbet@sargon.psu.edu (Robin Corbet)
Subject: registering marriages
Reply-To: corbet@sargon.psu.edu
Organization: Penn State University.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:37:50 GMT


I recently got married to a Japanese citizen (I'm British). We think
that we may have to register our marriage at the Japanese consulate in
New York.

My wife and I are wondering what is implied by this and what would
happen if we didn't register our marriage!  For example, I believe that
couples in Japan are not allowed to have different last names. My wife
is thinking about keeping her last name, so if we have to register under
one name this may cause problems. However, if we do register, would this
make it easier for me to visit (even work in) Japan for long periods of
time?

We'd appreciate hearing from any other mixed-nationality couples
who have gone through the registration process.

	Robin
corbet@astro.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)
Subject: Re: Reentry permits (wasRe: registering marriages)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Date:  3 Sep 92 12:42:10

In article <WPM.92Sep3181916@exile.is.morgan.com> wpm@is.morgan.com (W. Phillip Moore) writes:

>>>>>> "Hank" == Hank Cohen <hank@westford.ccur.com>:

>Hank> My understanding is a bit different about re-entry permits.  If you
>Hank> are a registered alien then when you want to leave Japan you have 2
>Hank> choices get a reentry permit either single or multiple and pay the
>Hank> rather outrageous fee that they demand.  

>Single entry is 3000 yen, multiple is 6000 -- high but not that bad.  

According to info from the Immigration office at TCAT in Hakozaki (as of
about three weeks ago), the single-entry permit now costs Y4000.

>Hank> Or surrender your Alien Registration Card to the immigration agent at
>Hank> the airport.  If you surrender your alien registration card then you
>Hank> have to re-apply for another one on your return.

>Do you know anyone who has tried this??  I suppose you could get away with
>it, but you'd be coming back to Japan and starting with the immigration
>authorities from scratch.   

That was my impression.  I was in Japan for the summer with a 1-year visa,
but my gaijin reg card was valid for 5 years.  I think that if you give up
the card (which equates to leaving without a re-entry permit), that your
visa is rendered null and void, and the only way to get back into the 
country on a visa is to re-apply at the neighborhood consulate for a new
visa.  
-- 
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|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:54:32 GMT
Reply-To: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Message-I.D.: <2494@aegis.or.jp>Lines: 34


 In article <2494@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>
>Perhaps you are right and it is a chameleon, but I wonder how many
>there are, and exactly where they are?
>
>Yesterday, I summarized what has been said recently here for the
>benefit of the 15 members of discussion group I lead in Osaka. They
>
>They continued by saying that, as is well known, the JIA got out of
>hand and committed many atrocities upon Chinese civilians. Exactly
>how many and where is open to question, but they felt that it was a
>fact that it happened. 
>
>Thus they didn't feel the current Japanese government owes the
>current Chinese government an apology. They did feel that an apology
>is owed to the Chinese people. From there, the discussion changed to
>how this could be done without implying that Japan/China was at
>fault (and therefore somebody owes somebody money). 
>
>No conclusion was reached on this point. To be continued...
>
>Note: This is not my opinion. I am only reporting what people
>told me. My part was to ask them questions.
>
>Dave
>
>--
>Dave McLane 

Mr. McLane, What you did was what I want to hear. You gave me 
field voices of some Japanese. Great Job done.
Thank You.
                                 H. J. Kim from AL.