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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:21:22 +0000


In article <9208271055.AA00711@Ra.MsState.Edu> maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU writes:
>On second thought, I think I *would* aspirate in "abhor" if I said the
>word rapidly in a typical sentence rhythm.  It would probably sound something
>like "a-pore."  But the meaning of the word leads me to slow down and

Don't think.  Dangle a feather on front of your lips and try it, and see
if the feather jumps...

G
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:05:48 EDT
From:         leah <LEAH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Jewish Murderers have grivenas a new topic
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In my mother's house, the grivenes were what was left of the fat laden skin
of the chicken after the fat was rendered. The chicken fat itself was schmaltz.
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Greetings,

I did read the account and found it very elevating.  About 3 lines
into Graham's reply, however, I fell asleep.  I get so tired of thoughts
so simple they occupy no more than 80 to 120 characters of text.  Give
me solid blocks of words set end to end and stacked atop one another like
bricks or slabs of concrete.  None of this airy, vacant chatter for me.
BUT:  I thought the rest was dross, rather than silence.

Marty Rosen
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:46:37 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Note to Bernard

>Which I know from camp as:
>
>Flea.
>Flea fly.
>Flea fly flew.
>Mosquito!
>cumalada cumalada cumalada vista.
>Oh no-no, no not the vista.
>Eeny meeny jipsaleeny oo-walla walla meeny.
>Itchy itchy scratchy scratchy--oo I got one on my back-y
>Kill the big bad bug with the big bad spray...
>PSSHHT!
>
>
>Funny how one can remember things long (and perhaps better left) buried...
>
>//anne//


But does this nonsense mean anything? What the hell is it?

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:34:31 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: re: signs of the times

I liked one I saw in Singapore:

    No entry this exit.


Mka
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:53:36 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: fire and ice
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:26:02 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>What's the best way to clean a computer screen?

clear();

judith, who can't believe nobody has said it yet...
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:21:52 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: What about Henry?
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>that, on some extremely rare occasions, it may be necessary to impose
>the death penalty, at least until we can devise a more human system of
>justice.  Jim (increasingly cynical) Thomas


Gently sliding towards conservatism...one more step and you'll be saying Reagan
was the greatest president of the last 50 years. How about capital gains, Jim?

-abh
kill em all let God sort em out
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:25:56 EDT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Snuff Films
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On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:58:24 EDT, "jcs" <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> wrote:
> jenna "college co-ed once again"

*Zaftig* college co-ed surely?  It's traditional...

G (who has only ever seen the word Zaftig before 'co-ed' and a certain
brand of German cigarettes.)
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:24:57 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: First the phone booths, (was Re: Superman

Mr. Dithers' first name is Julius, and his wife's is Cora.

Evelyn
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:06:52 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject: Re: sayings
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              Sep 2, 92 8:15 pm

>
> > >  Just Ducky      as in      How are you doing?  (reply) Just Ducky
> > 	Beats me, but if I were you I'd be asking Giggles....  He might
[...del...]
> Duck Butter=Donkey Buiscuits=Mule Muffins, therefore <Just Ducky>
> means, in fact, <I feel like sh*t>....  sort of ironic tinge to it.
> Which, in fact, is what I heard as I was researching Agnes in the
> D. H. Hill Library of NOrth Carolina State University, from a
> fellow scholar sitting at the next table......

er...did you say "agnes" as in "MOI"?
er...researching? ?? ??? ???? ?????
or should that be:
WHA'....?
RESEARCHING?
MOI?

SUrely you jest....

(gads, *who* would know me in that neck of the continent...I hope they
said nice things..)

Agnes

> *But* that belongs in WHTMITL....  which *is* forthcoming.

WHTMITL==??
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:10:12 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: fire and ice
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              27 Aug 1992 06:46:15 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:46:15 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>with tiny bit of liquid detergent, followed by another damp paper towel,
>followed by dry paper towel.  (I always buy soft paper towels.)

Yeah, this isn't in anyones book that I know of....but I save all the used
bounce sheets from the dryer....(spose other brands would work too) and use
them for dusting screens, tvs, equip, etc.  they stillhave just enough
antistatic properties left.

dan
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:22:00 CDT
From:         "tk0jut1@mvs.cso.niu.edu jim thomas"
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Subject:      Moving Right1

abh pontificates:

    >>Yeh, that's what I should have said. Now, shall we turn to
    >>pork rinds, which are actually quite tastey?

    >You heard it here first, folks: Jim and Bush agreeing on something.

Not to mention a great fondness for Jennifers-with-a-J!
And disdain for broccoli-with-a-yeck!

Jim (eat veggies, not goats) Thomas
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:45:46 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Words-l All-Amazon Task Force
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              WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS" at Aug 30, 92 2:50 pm

> And Unca Giggles, you can't tube Ruth.  I've tried.
>
I don't know what John " " W means by tube (finger?), but she sneaks past my
filter file as well.  Ruth now has a special line in my filter-rules file all
to herself!  A few others on the list also have this ability, btw.

rashmi
(rashmi@coe.drexel.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:48:23 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      RE: disks/modems/novels

>doing it to avoid doing something else.  I think Tushar's
>strategy is to write the GAN to the list.
>
>                                   At least avoidance syndrome
>gives you a very clear picture of what you *like* to do, as
>opposed to what you'd merely like to like to do.

What you'd like to like to do is merely a special case of what you'd like
to do, assuming that liking to do something is doing something, which is
manifestly true. Write the GAN, me? I am no englit freshman.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:12:44 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: politics right and left
              26 Aug 1992 10:57:50 GMT from <bayla@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>

>And no, tony, the spectrum of allowable political discourse in the US is
>not narrow, no matter what Chomsky said.  *Discourse* isn't the same as
>rock-throwing and riot.

I think we disagree on the meaning of 'allowable' - not 'discourse'.

Indeed, we are discussing this stuff here and now, and the thought police
are not likely to break down your door, and only slightly more likely
to break down mine.

But none of this is being discussed in the letters pages of the New York
Times, and most certainly not on any of the hundreds of TV channels around
the US.  No law would prevent it - it just, somehow, doesn't happen.

Chomsky's thesis of thought control in democratic societies is well explained
in _Necessary Illusions_.  The magazine _Lies of Our Times_ also covers a
lot of what the NYT doesn't print.

Tony H.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 10:42:39 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: I solved my problem!!!!

>I love doing things like writing script files because it makes me feel
>like a programmer.  Reality rears its ugly head from time to time, of
>course, making me realize that plugging info into a script file is *not*
>writing a program.  But it's still fun.

So let's go out next Saturday night and write WP macros.  If the
chemistry's there, we could do logitech mouse menus for dessert.

-Mka
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:36:51 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      RE: T-shirt colors
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  I *love* teal.

Doris
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:30:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: signs of the times
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I am attempting to clean off part of my disk (oh, hopeless task!),
and ran across this, which I apparently forgot to send:


>    In approximately Redwood City, CA, you can see my favorite sign
>    in the world from Hwy 101:  Peninsula Screw and Bolt Co.
>
>    Carol ("been there, done that")

My favorite company name, which I ran across while I lived in Denver,
was:  Ridge Erection Co.

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:29:48 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: politice right and left
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>I think we've gotten a bit away from the initial stimulus, which was a
>comment that there was less to fear from the loony left than from the loony
>right.
>The issue of which one is currently in power is not relevant to that
>hypothesis: one doesn't cure the tyrrany of one loonyness by putting the
>other loonys in their stead.

Bayla, I agree with you that, in principle, looniness on either side is to be
abhorred.  However, my original comment was provoked by (reading) the speeches
at the recent convention (Buchanan and M Quayle, in particular), and was made
in the context of the current political climate.
Sorry for not being clear.

--rashmi  (rashmi@coe.drexel.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:00:31 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Two Tushars
              29 Aug 1992 01:52:26 EDT from <ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

>Gotta hand it to you,
>Tushar man.  You pulled off one of the most clever hoaxes of the
>century.

  Clever, hell.  It's a tour de fuckin force.  --brad
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:26:36 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      New nodenames

How about Inferno or Paradiso?

Evelyn
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Unix lessons

>Are y'all giving VMS lessons. I would like to know how you get th
>>signs in front of each quoted line. Does the program put it there or
>do you do it in the editing process.

You don't want VMS lessons from me, Marilyn, but there are some
folks here who really know something about it and will surely
instruct you.  I put the > symbols in manually.  Doing so gives
great incentive for quoting no more than is needed.  I don't think
the standard VMS mail program provides any means for inserting the
symbols automatically, but you might be able to write some sort of
editor macro to do it.  Our use of this system is so
restricted--captive accounts locked into menus that don't even allow
use of some of the most basic operating system commands--that I haven't even
explored the possibility of automating the process.

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:32:01 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Quote for today
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Posted on 25 Aug 1992 at 12:08:27 by Evelyn
>             -- Fil Racette of the Paw Paw (Mich.) Courier-Leader

I got stranded in a snowstorm in PawPaw once, a couple years ago
(I think it was shortly after subbing to Words-l...coincidence?!)
We stayed at the Wil-o-paw motel.  I didn't realize they *had* a
newspaper.

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:38:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (57
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> Mostly because Jodie Foster is my height, and just very small (I used to see
> her around when she was in college), and Anne Harwell is not small in any
> sense.  Am I beng misled by reality?
>
> Karen

Does this mean, karen dear, that you saw her around the Yale campus?
When you were in college there?  At the same time?  Then, you must
have seen my lovely daughter (the one who has been a smashing
success ever since Phillips Exeter non-honor student status) around
at the same time and at her graduation, when they gave an honorary
degree to what's-her-name, graduate of Yale Drama School (star of
French Lieutenant's Woman....), very pregnant at the time.  *I* *was*
*there* and you didn't even say hello.
--ggs
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Our favorite colors
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> Royal blue is better than light blue.  Lavender sux.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

No it doesn't. Lavender's c00l.

-abh
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:22:41 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Another Latin quiz
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These are from Henry Beard's LATIN FOR ALL OCCASIONS and LATIN FOR EVEN
MORE OCCASIONS.  I'll post the English on Monday.       -brad

Labra lege.
Pactum factum.
Satine caloris tibi est?
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere.
Die dulci fruere.
Tibi gratias agimus quod nihil fumas.
Amo _vi_-um.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.
Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo.
Abutebaris modo subjunctivo.
Illud Latine dici non potest.
Caterva carissima mea est Lapides Provolventes.
(In a Chinese restaurant) Habesne "olyzam flictam"?  Hae hae hae!
Fac ut vivas.
Age. Fac ut gaudeam.
"Non Potes Semper Capere Quod Aves."
Cacatne ursus in sylvis?
Vos omnes die dulcissimo fruimini, auditisne?
Audeone persicum edere?
Cogito sumere potum alterum....
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:01:00 HST
From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Ain't Technology Grand?

Gosh, I rushed to apologize for assaulting the list with a long forwarded
message only to find that the listserv software knew I didn't really mean
to do it and bounced the message.  So now only a few of you will ever know
what I was babbling about (I'm not going to try it again) and will just wonder
whether the tropical sun is getting too hot.

mem
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Public vs. Private Schools
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> >
> I think that half of my friends with school-age kids are home-schooling
> them, mostly for religious reasons.  From what I've read, home-schooled kids
> tend to test ahead [academically] of public school kids the same age.
>
I think home-schooled kids have a definite advantage because (1) they
have parents who care about their academics, and (2) they have at least one
parent who spends time with them and *talks* to them.  Unfortunately, this
is not the case for many young people.
ndh
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From:         Bernard Chien Perro <BERNARD@ENGLISH.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      A Poltroon?
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What??  Tushar called me a poltroon??  I who had the courage to leap
a fence, walk two miles, sneak into this lab, and log on while a room
full of students aren't aware I'm here?  I who may be the only dog on
campus with his own e-mail address?  I who crawl the nets hacking and
barking bravely?

             o/.\_____/   (bernard@english.msstate.edu)
              \ ______|
               /\   /\
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:23:36 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Holland tunnel
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>abh, did you say something about not having seen the Holland tunnel? If
>you think that's some kind of shortcoming, it's not. If you want to use
>it with the intent of writing fiction, that is. Hell, you hardly sounded
>like you intended that to be a news report. Why care then?

Tush,

I bow to your superior worldliness. You, with so many interesting stories
freshly minted in NYC, have chosen to keep them to yourself (very chic, that);
whereas I, a mere country bumpkin whose retinas have ne'er been painted with
the gaudy lights of The Apple, makes a coarse reference to one of her features
and I am rightly repudiated. Rightly, I say, sir! And please, whenever I dare
to stray one millimeter out of line again, may I count on you to bring me back
to my more familiar maudlin sensibilities? Why, without you as my constant
reader and inspiration, I'd be distraught and foundationless, bobbing suspended
in a sea of muck without so much as a candle's glimmer to guide me.

Tushar, you ARE the embodiment of Words-L, nay, Words-L right and proper,
Words-L as is *should* be, in its more rarefied, perfected state such as most
mortals will not see until they meet again in that heavenly country where all
our sins shall be put away and we can gaze full on the face of Tushar, our
strength and our redeemer.

Amen.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:50:55 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: thanks to all
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              24 Aug 1992 23:22:22 -0700 from <MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU>

On Mon, 24 Aug 1992 23:22:22 -0700 <MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU> said:
>I've only been on your list for three days, but it has been a joy. So many of
> the lists take themselves so seriously, always talking about censoring one or
> another writer for sarcasm, insult and irrelevance, no fun at all

Interesting indeed.....assume Mgarber really LIKES it when he/she drops
the soap in the shower....

dan
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:30:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: E-oops dissection
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> with #4.  Somewhere in there I think Tushar also wondered what was going on.
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I think it is time to get some slumber and wake up saner.
> Doris

I don't know what the rest of you are thinking, but *I* am beginning
to suspect that <ts> *also* has three knees.
--ggs (carrying this thread perhaps a teensy bit further than <one>
  ought to....)
p.s. (also hoping that <ts>' tummy is feeling better than earlier
  in the evening.  Must be that ole MR....)
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:23:54 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: mohawk

Bill says:

>Before we get into this (again) I wanted to ask what exactly is meant
>by "mindset." This is one of those 90s expressions that I have
>never felt comfortable using because I have been unable to pin down
>a precise definition from context. Its meaning lies between "attitude"
>"weltanschauung," but where? Is "way of thinking" at all close?

I never thought of this. Just went on using a trendy word because I had
heard it, I guess. It is a completely valid question, but what are
"attitude" and "weltanshauung" anyway?

Might as well use it as a very vague word.

tushar
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:48:25 CDT
From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ubi Sunt?
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Not that you asked... but *I'M* here.
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