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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,sci.med,misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine
Subject: Re: AMA Calls for Ban on Infant Walkers
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:51:57 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Followup-To: alt.activism
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Dec11.150624.26020@news.media.mit.edu> stanzi@media.mit.edu (Constance "Stanzi" Royden) writes:

>>actually hamper walking development.  Studies show that children
>>who use walkers often bypass the crawling stage, retarding
>>development of certain cognitive skills, such as reading.
>
>I agree that walkers can hamper walking development (babies apparently
>use different muscles and coordination to move a walker around), but I
>wish they hadn't tagged on the assertion that skipping crawling could
>hamper cognitive development.  I think this is rather ireesponsible
>reporting.  I understand from what I've read that it's moderately

Well, the original poster said "studies show" that such skills were
retarded.  Now perhaps the studies were faulty, but it was not necessarily
irresponsible reporting if there really were such studies, is it?





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From: prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: please...no more LaRouche fascist crap!! ok?!
Date: 2 Jan 93 16:43:59 GMT
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, University of Virginia

In article <C08G2E.GuB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman) writes:
>aforum@moose.uvm.edu (autonome forum) writes:
>
>>What more need be said???
>
>>Fight fascism!!!!
>>Beware of LaRouche fascist front-groups!!!
>
>Could you please substantiate your claim?

Larouche's conspiratorial, dishonest and larcenous tactics have already
landed him in jail.  I don't think much needs to be done to substantiate
ANYTHING negative about LL that hasn't already been done.  The guy's a
loony crook!

Everyone here who believes the Queen of England is:

1) A Zionist Dupe
2) A tool of the Masons
3) An international drug smuggler
and
4) The Spawn of Satan

raise your hand. (with the exception of #4, LL has claimed the QofE is
all of those things).

>
>
>Brian Redman
>(bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
>"Ah yes, Armageddon. I remember it well."

	-Phil
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Xref: sparky alt.activism:19739 alt.politics.usa.misc:681 talk.politics.misc:65014
From: zitsky+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark Ryan Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:20:30 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <BzM8u5.JM3@unix.amherst.edu>, pdchapin@unix.amherst.edu (PAUL D CHAPIN) writes:
|> Jyrki Kuoppala (jkp@cs.HUT.FI) wrote:
|> 
|> : I hear reports of kids trained to inform to the officials about their
|> : parents.
|> 
|> That's plan silly.
|> 
|> : I hear reports of a war being declared and fought in USA - a war
|> : against "drugs", with the Bill of Rights being the major casualty.
|> : 
|> Bullshit.  The Bill of Rights is alive and well.  There are individual
|> cases of overzealous enforcement, but the courts usually strike them down.
|> 
|> : I see people talking about a "moral imperative" for the U.S.
|> : government to be "world police".
|> 
|> An unfortunate reaction common to people with power.  It comes and goes 
|> depending on how successful the last action was.  Gulf War went well so
|> we're on a temporary activist binge.  Vietnam ended the last such period. I
|> fear that Bosnia will end this one.  You also wouldn't see much of that
|> kind of talk from the Clinton administration.
|> : 
|> : I see the U.S. vice president saying "No I don't know that atheists
|> : should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered
|> : patriots. This is one nation under God."  This during his campaign,
|> : and he is later elected president.
|> 
|> A comment almost no one here ever heard of.  He is also about to become
|> a former President.
|> : 

I just had to say that I disagree with virtually everything in the above
response.  As for the last quote, it was from President George Herbert Walker Bush, and the conversation was with a reporter from an Atheist organization.
It is well documented.  I can provide info, or you can look through some of the last few weeks messages on the atheist newsgroup.

Many of the original comments are some of my same concerns.  US citizens just can't and don't want to believe that the government could do anything deliberately wrong, and many will justify recent events.

Of course not everyone will agree with me.  The invasion of Panama was "to protect the canal treaty".  If so, why was that not the focus of Noriega's
trial or the media coverage?

As for foreign involvement, I don't hear the Cubans yelling for the US to harrass their country.  I don't hear the Puerto Ricans asking to remain a territory.
I know the Somali's are happy we are there, but I suggest two things:  (1) why did we wait so long, and wouldn't the Bosnian's be happy to see us too? and (2) let's see how long the US remains and what they do afterwards.

It's amazing to me that citizens of the US will not doubt that crimes occurring
in other countries are wrong, but when someone tries to tell them of questionable activities in their own country, they shrug it off, ignore it, or tell someone they must be lying or have false information.  The 'sense of security and trust' here is sometimes scary.

--Mark
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
Reply-To: bud@mtek.com
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 00:58:10 GMT

matt@physics2.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) writes:

>Maybe khat is a lot worse than coffee: maybe so.  Maybe it's so
>incredibly bad, in fact, that it's as dangerous as that well-known
>killer drug, ethanol.

>But wouldn't you feel a trifle resentful if Somalia, or some other
>Moslem country, demanded that American drug-users stop using ethanol,
>and if they started to enforce that demand by military might?

Excellent point.

Next time the Somalis have to invade to keep the street gangs from
ripping off all food going into our cities, we will certainly have
to keep this question fully in mind. Especially whether 15-year-old
American kids bearing automatic weapons should not be allowed to con-
tinue with their "traditional" use of alcohol while the Somalis have
their own troops in there attempting to restore order at minimum
loss of life.
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From: triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: please...no more LaRouche fascist crap!! ok?!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 03:07:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1993Jan2.120902.19161@uvm.edu> aforum@moose.uvm.edu (autonome forum) writes:
>What more need be said???
>
>Fight fascism!!!!
>Beware of LaRouche fascist front-groups!!!
>
i second

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Dec21.183152.1337@kadsma.kodak.com>
	<1992Dec22.165059.15776@mtek.com>
	<1992Dec22.194125.14451@kadsma.kodak.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 00:25:49 GMT

<In article <1992Dec22.194125.14451@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:<

<   >It has been *legal* for *years* for IRS enforcement personnel to seize
<   >the assets of people whom they accuse of nonpayment of taxes owed. This
<   >seizure can take place *before* guilt or innocence is established, and
<   >recovery of assets in the event that the case falls apart has proven
<   >to be problematic. The courts have *not* been striking this down.
<   >
,   >Do you plan to write your congress-critter about *both* abuses of con-
<   >stitutional liberties?
<   >-- 

<
<   Are you suggesting that because the IRS has been doing this stuff,
<   I must: a) support the IRS in this behavior, and b) accept the idea
<   that, because the IRS has been doing it, it is now a valid precedent
<   for all law enforcement agencies?
	
<   As I recall, the Bill of Rights contains a provision regarding
<   'unreasonable searches and seizures'. I would categorize both the
<   IRS and DEA seizures as 'unreasonable'. Unfortunately, the Reagan/Bush
<   Supreme Court, led by that friend of individual liberty, William
<   Rehnquist, doesn't agree.

	Are you asserting that the IRS did not have the power
	to seize assets until 1981?

	Guess again, Pajerek.

	And don't count on Frat Boy Bill Clinton, the "workingman's
	friend", to do *anything* about it.
From: jemille@eis.calstate.edu (Jeffrey d Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Schlage Primus
Date: 1 Jan 93 03:19:42 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith) writes:
> What's the opinion on the security of the Schlage Primus series locks?
> The keys are pretty unusual, and the locksmiths claim they won't duplicate
> the keys (factory dupes only), and that Schlage will actively sue anyone
> who attempts to make duplicates.
> 
> A friend bought this system for his shop, and seems happy with it, but
> I'm wondering if it's just marketing hype from the folks at Schlage,
> or if they're really a good lock that I should consider for my home.
> 
> -ks
> 
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SUE WREN at CSU HUMBOLDT HAS THE SKINNY ON THIS TOPIC!
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: bromwich@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Adam Todd Bromwich)
Subject: Re: For Sale: Universal Car Door Openers
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:41:13 GMT


This slim-jim is 22" by 5/8" and is prepackaged with complete
instructions in case of a lockout.  (not at all made by me).
From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Schlage Primus
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:50:06 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

What's the opinion on the security of the Schlage Primus series locks?
The keys are pretty unusual, and the locksmiths claim they won't duplicate
the keys (factory dupes only), and that Schlage will actively sue anyone
who attempts to make duplicates.

A friend bought this system for his shop, and seems happy with it, but
I'm wondering if it's just marketing hype from the folks at Schlage,
or if they're really a good lock that I should consider for my home.

-ks

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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: hoeven@fenk.wau.nl (Joost vd Hoeven)
Subject: QUESTION: where to get good picks?
Organization: Dpt. of Physical and Colloid Chemistry, Wageningen University, NL
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:33:03 GMT

Who knows a shop, mail-order company in the USA, where they sell good lockpicks?
--
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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: rendt+@pitt.edu (James M Rendt)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: BEST Security Keys
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:30:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I need to make a duplicate set of a seven BEST keys for a friend. They are
(I guess) harder to get blanks for then most keys, I ran around and couldn't
find a store who had them. They are the BEST "Do Not Duplicate" keys and 6 of
them are "M"-type blanks and one is a "K"-type blank. I don't want someone to
copy them for me, I can do that myself. I just need to get the blanks. Could
I stop at a Locksmith and pick up the blanks there without a 3rd degree or
is there anyplace with overnight devilery of blanks? If anyone can help,
I'd appreciate it... just mail me.

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From: ablair@byron.u.washington.edu (Andrew Blair)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Locks and Doors
Date: 29 Dec 1992 09:35:36 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: ablair@u.washington.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu

Oh please, locks won't keep burgalers out, just detur them so they won't.
Lockpicking takes a few min's that's all that is needed for your nosy neighbor 
to spot the crook and send him to jail for a long time.  Your locks are only as
your door so don't worry or get a door with steal re-inforcing!  As others have
said it would be easier to cut a window or break it with a rock!  So if your 
that parionied put bars on yor windows, get steal doors, magnetic locking doors with 10 dead bolts on it! Oh and the walls you must fill them with Cement...
Or you could just move into a prison cuase that's about how much security you seam to need!

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman)
Subject: Re: BEST Security Keys
Organization: Slug Hordes of the Planet Gamma
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:11:52 GMT

I've found most locksmiths to have a decent selection of Bests, and they
(at least around here; consider the factor of a dense urban area) have
always been able to get within an hour or so anything they *didn't* have.
Places in business for other reasons that cut keys on the side generally
don't seem to stock Bests; they're not all *that* common...  (M should be
no problem; finding your K, though, might be tough...)

As far as the getting blanks part, I've also never had problems walking
into either locksmiths shops or locksmith supply houses and buying them,
but this actually suprises me -- there's got to be quite a few anal
locksmiths out there somewhere...

andrew
From: clone@west.darkside.com (Clone)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: The club and airbags
Date: 2 Jan 93 05:50:09 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

Has anyone seen or heard of an airbag discharging while "the club" or 
similar anti-theft device was installed? Would this be a possible way of 
defeating such a device? Makes me want to run out and try it! Jason.
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: UC445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu (John M. Kelsey)
Subject: locks and doors
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:44:45 CST

   Unless you're going to put bars on the windows and put steel doors on
your house, an expensive, pick-proof lock seems like a waste of money.
I have yet to live in an apartment whose front door I couldn't kick in,
if I wnated in badly enough.
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: mgreeny@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Greeny)
Subject: Re: BEST Security Keys
Organization: Greeny's Bar & Grill
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:01:36 GMT

rendt+@pitt.edu (James M Rendt) writes:

Just as an FYI, ILCO makes BEST "generic" key blanks.... and as far as I
can remember, the "M"-type blank will pass the A, E, and G keyways, so
if M's are unavailable, just copy the key onto an A, E, and G blank
(yes, it's a pain, but it would work...)....

I don't have any of the blanks you're needing, or I'd send ya some...

>I need to make a duplicate set of a seven BEST keys for a friend. They are
>(I guess) harder to get blanks for then most keys, I ran around and couldn't
>find a store who had them. They are the BEST "Do Not Duplicate" keys and 6 of
>them are "M"-type blanks and one is a "K"-type blank. I don't want someone to
>copy them for me, I can do that myself. I just need to get the blanks. Could
>I stop at a Locksmith and pick up the blanks there without a 3rd degree or
>is there anyplace with overnight devilery of blanks? If anyone can help,
>I'd appreciate it... just mail me.

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From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Tubular lock 'picking'
Date: 2 Jan 1993 02:08:59 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

I like the idea of starting alt.theft.

Maybe we'll learn a few more things about protecting ourselves.  Isn't
that what locks are for?????
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: bromwich@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Adam Todd Bromwich)
Subject: For Sale: Universal Car Door Openers
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:04:41 GMT

I have a limited number of Universal Car Door Openers for sale. They
will open most older cars and many newer ones, especially domestics.

Of course, I can't guarantee that it will work with every car, but it
is a useful tool.

Only $10 each plus $3 shipping. If interested send check or money order
to  Door Opener
    12 Blair Hall East, Princeton University
    Princeton, NJ  08544-6004

or for more information send email to bromwich@phoenix.princeton.edu

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Schlage Primus
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 23:05:11 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <C05nwv.F01@eis.calstate.edu> jemille@eis.calstate.edu (Jeffrey d Miller) writes:
>Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith) writes:
>> What's the opinion on the security of the Schlage Primus series locks?
>
>SUE WREN at CSU HUMBOLDT HAS THE SKINNY ON THIS TOPIC!

Could the information be posted?
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From: mikeg@asylum.tmc.edu (Michael Grabenstein)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Lock picking (not smithing)
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:23:37 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center


	How does the old saying go? "Locks keep the honest people
out." I have a slim Jim, but I don't go around unlocking everyone's car,
though I could (as long as they don't have eletric locks :-).
	As has been said on this sub before, the normal thief does not
go around picking locks. It is easier for them to just kick in the door.
No brain power (or skill) required. Plus what is the time ratio of
picking vs. kicking? See what I mean.

	have a happy and safe day.
Take care,
	Mike
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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Lock picking (not smithing)
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:41:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.183831.13058@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
   The 'abloy' locks seem to give locksmiths problems, but they are so awfully
   expensive. (especially to make an extra key, or whatever) and at those
   prices, I DON'T WANT to read messages on this newsgroup that say things like
   "oh, the abloy locks, you need to apply torque here, etc., to open them".

Just asking, as Abloys were developed here, what does it cost to have the
basic Abloy key duplicated over there (Canada or Greece, whichever)?

Over here it's something like $5 for the basic semicircle-crossection type
and a bit more for the slightly larger arc-shaped ones.  For these two, I
can just walk over to the local supermarket keysmith, but for the speciality
types you have to have the factory duplicate them (with a lot of paperwork).

James Randi told me he consideres Abloys tricky enough that picking is
impractical, but noted that some models yield easily to violence.
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From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Lock picking (not smi
Date: 2 Jan 1993 02:15:11 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec28.235527.29552@rose.com> colin.buckley@rose.com (colin buckley) writes:
>
>It reallys annoys me to think that any moron can buy a glass cutter and go
>silently through my window much faster then picking a lock.
>
>Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you.  Buy
>an internal security system and sleep at night.


Screw the security system.  I live very near Washington, DC (in Virginia).
I own a big, loud dog and a Glock.  And am doing very well, thank you.
From: wrights@tirith.carleton.edu (Steve Wright)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: BEST Security Keys
Date: 2 Jan 1993 20:54 CST
Organization: Carleton College Starving Artists Assoc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wrights@carleton.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.22.1.2
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    

Are there any sources, net or hardcopy, for further information on BEST
keys?  I don't remember anything about it in the FAQ, so I thought I'd 
ask.

Thanks.

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I speak for myself, obv.                            wrights@carleton.edu
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