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                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2835

                           Tuesday, July 28, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                                Georgia tech
                        Announcing "Integral Point"!
                                  Disabled
                              epilepsy(surgery)
                                DEAF CULTURE
                                  Swelling
                                Expectations


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Subject: Georgia tech
From: Patricia.Bregman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Patricia Bregman)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL


Someone thinks there is a market in adaptive devices for
the home that are also attractive. A woman who opened one
of the earliest bath boutiques in Ontario - the kind with
trendy sinks, etc., has just opened a bath boutique for
accessible bathrooms - it has swing away sinks to accommdate
wheelchairs, etc. There is even a soft tub that is more
comfortable and not slippery, with all kinds of holds, etc.

The only problem at the moment is probably cost (I haven't checked
out the prices, but knowing where she is located they have to
be)  But, like everything else, I suspect others will soon follow
suit. It is not just the ADA and similar legislation that spurs
this but the reality that more people need some type of
accessibility aids in their house.

Ikea has also been very involved in designing accessible
kitchens.

Good luck.

MJ>Flying high,
MJ>
MJ>Marilyn
MJ>
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Subject: Announcing "Integral Point"!
From: Rick.Dayton@f74.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Dayton)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/74 - MacWASH Bbs, Seattle WA


    Washington's Access to Self Help, operator of WASH BBS, is pleased to
announce the premiere of a new national newspaper addressing disability
issues.  This newspaper, called "Integral Point," will be distributed free of
charge to anyone around the world by direct mail.

    If you would be interested in receiving this publication, simply send your
name and address to:  WASH, P.O. Box 22010, Seattle, Washington, 98122-0010,
ATTN: Integral Point

    We are also welcoming articles from anyone in the medical profession that
would like to contribute information to this new publication.  Please send all
inquiries to the above address ATTN: Editor.

    I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon.

                               Rick  Dayton
                           Publisher/Editor/CEO

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Subject: Disabled
From: Joan.Wolschleger@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Joan Wolschleger)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH


Last night I sat in the Gossip room with some folks, and they
brought up that I should be Resident Council President.  During the
course of these discussions, it was requested that I work to get
new refrigerators and to keep the disabled out our building.  I was
astounded that folks would ask a disabled person to get rid of
other disabled persons from a building designated for senior and
disabled persons.  They didn't think of me as disabled because I'm
not in a wheelchair (yet).

There is growing feeling in my building against the wheelchair
bound.  I don't understand it yet, but I think it might be related
to this crabby old man in a wheelchair or the fact that there are a
lot more wheelchairs rolling around our halls.  I pointed out to
them that I couldn't do that because it would violate the ADA law.
They asked what that was and I told them Americans with
Disabilities Act which forbids discrimination because of disability
in housing and employment.  Thus far I've kept our newsletter
neutral to the special needs of both the senior and disabled
population, and just put in things that would be of interest to
both groups.  However, I'm thinking that the September issue should
contain something concerning the disabled, and maybe explain the
ADA and how it relates to CMHA's high rises.

I'm pondering whether I need to put something in about seniors and
disabled whenever I write about aging or disability.

A week or so ago, I saw a message which I believe was entitled MISS
MANNERS which gave some advice about how to treat the disabled.  I
had a problem with my system at that time and I missed saving the
message before I deleted the QWK packet.  Would the person who
wrote it please repost it or send it to me via netmail?

 * OLX 2.2 * Biography: posterity's revenge

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Subject: epilepsy(surgery)
From: Al.Smith@f281.n351.z1.fidonet.org (Al Smith)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:351/281 - <Second Chance, Nanaimo BC


 >     Yes, my wife is doing better, she's had a couple
 > of episodes with
 > seizures since the switch over to tegritol, but they
 > have increased the dosage
 > which seems to have {so far} quelled further episodes.
 >     What type of surgery did they perform which
 > resulted in no more seizures?

Hi Rick, The type of brain surgery that I had was called "Anterior
temporal lobectomy". It is a nine hour surgery procedure in which
the damaged area is removed.In my case the removed HALF my brain,
and get this I am (according to the doctors) 10 times brighter,
smarter, faster, and every other way that they could think of. It's
great to be alive. It really shows you how much of our brain that
we use. From what i've been told, this operation will only benifit
100,000 epileptics out of about 2,000,000. But check it out(nothing
ventured , nothing gained) Also in time ,who knows? Anythings
possible. I'm not quite sure exactly how much information you want.
If there's anything else. let me know.You know Rick it's almost
ironic that my wife (Jan) is in the process of switching completely
over to tegretol as well.Catch you later, Al

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Subject: DEAF CULTURE
From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 LG> Betty, this message is really for James Womack, but I
 LG> don't want to upset Ann, so I am addressing it to you.

There is really no need to address this message to Betty - it
would have been just as appropriate to address it to ALL.

 LG> I have read the book "Disavblingg of the Deaf Community", and I
 LG> can see that ASL and Deaf Culture are really the most
 LG> appropriate cultural formss for the born-deaf or pre-
 LG> lingually deafened.

Why do you feel ASL and Deaf Culture are really the most appropriate
cultural forms for the born-deaf or pre-lingually deafened?  I don't
agree with this because there are many born-deaf folks who are not
a part of the Deaf Culture nor do they use ASL.  I'm one of them...
and so are many who belong to SHHH as well as the AG Bell organization.
I actually believe it depends on the home environment of the above
parties and how their families raise them.  I think all born-deaf
should have at least a shot at oralism.  Many of us who are oral
and depend on speechreading function quite well, some better than
others where there is never a need for ASL.

 LG> Infants with all their senses do not sometimes babble and
 LG> sometimes make finger motions. Infants with all their senses
 LG> ALWAYS babble.

All infants babble whether they are deaf or not - they may not
speak clearly but they do make noises.  The only exception may
be they have a brain damage disability or are born without vocal
cords, but deafness has nothing to do with the fact an infant
cannot babble.

I have to agree with you in your statement about deafness being
a disability (I hate the word handicapped because I feel one is
only handicapped if they allow themselves to be so) - Deaf Culture
in my opinion is something the Deaf created among themselves simply
because they choose to be recognized as Deaf persons and thus want
to be a group of such.  We are all individuals first, not a deaf
person.  IMHO, just because we are deaf/Deaf/HoH doesn't mean we
have to belong to one group or the other - we should be able to
fit in any group (personally, I don't see the need for such
sterotyping as a group) and if one is limiting themselves into
such groups, they are missing out on what is out in the BIG wide
world.

This is just my opinion which is based on what I've experienced
and from what I've been exposed to.

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Subject: Swelling
From: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Cummings)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/34 - Batteries Included, Montgomery AL


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 >      It is a circulation problem.  If it has not happened before,
 > you should contqact a doctor.  My legs swelled in 1985 and I had
 > to be admitted and treated with IV drugs.

I think I figured it out [blushing].  I just sat at the computer
too long.  Since the chair I'm sitting in is an executive chair,
and very comfortable, I stayed sitting too long with my knees
bent.  I think the circulation was sorta cut off in the back of the
knees.  [Silly me]

Linda

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Subject: Expectations
From: Nikos.Voulgaropoulos@f6.n410.z2.fidonet.org (Nikos Voulgaropoulos)
Organization: FidoNet node 2:410/6


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 >      If the disable live as long as the abled-bodied, then
 > why shouldn't they have children or be allowed to adopt.  I

Well, if you are living with a disability you need rather an
attorney that a doctor or social worker. Disability is not (yet) a
law-abiding way of living so everyone can say/write anything he/she
likes since the verbal and written stupidities are tax-free and
law-abiding.

Here is an example of the Greek stupidity: From the 4.500 books and
articles which was written during the last 60 years about the
Special Education, the 91% of those is about the psychological
problems of the maladjasted persons!

 > have seen mothers with no arms diaper their child and
 > prepare meals.  I have see deaf and blind individuals raise
 > normal children and teach successfully in our schools.

I 've seen breast-less mothers who had lost the trusteeship of
their kids, right after the masto-excision!

 >      The clowns who write articles against persons with
 > disabilities experiencing parental responsibilities is
 > totally out of touch with modern thinking.  I can only
 > assume that they are acting out of ignorance or prejudice.

I think that those "writers" want to make a best seller, they know
that magazines such as the "Insitement" or the "Disability Rag" can
never sell enough, so they try to cajole their publishers and their
readers by adopting conservative attributes, reproducing the mass
ignorance and the social prejudices.

I also think that the majority of the writers with disabilities
avoid the adoption of the radical ideas and expressions because
they are copying the abled bodied carriers. From their writings the
typical reader can not understand if the writer have a personal
experience of the handicap. Ususually they use their personal
disability only if they don't have rational arguments to support
their ideas, so they reconstruct their disability image in order to
mislead the shallow-brained readers.

Nikos.

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