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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 92 11:05:25 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

jackr@dblues.wpd.sgi.com (John "Jack" Repenning) writes:
> In article <Jul.7.23.35.43.1992.1697@pilot.njin.net> eharold@pilot.njin.net (
>     WHAT IS AUTODOUBLER?  (11.6)
> 
>      The only common known conflicts are with Norton FileSaver version
>      1.0 and 1.1 and with the File Search function in Microsoft Word
>      5.0.
> 
> There is one more "commonly known" conflict (there's a minor typo in
> that paragraph, by the way - the missing "ly"): AutoDoubler and
> GateKeeper.  If you use both, AD will occasionally be blocked by GK.

There's another conflict.  US versions of AutoDoubler are allegedly
deliberately crippled so they won't run on any other country's version of the
Mac System software.

So if you ever travel outside the US, beware...


mathew
-- 
Down, boy!  There's a good dogma.
From: deal@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Richard Deal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Downloading from Z-term
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:10:03 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Labs (Washington DC)

In article <1992Jul22.005317.11193@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jesse.Taylor@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jesse Taylor) writes:
>	Humh. There's a UNIX command called 'sz', which you can use to
>send files via Zmodem... Of course, there are often annoying problems with

sz (and sx, sy, rz, rx, ry) are not UNIX commands.  They are UNIX programs
that can be compiled on many different versions ov UNIX as well as VMS.  
See if the sesytem you are using has sz installed and if it is on your 
path.   If not then install it, this is rather easy.  Try archie for a 
sight with zmodem or sz near you.

-- 
#include <std/*>
The Butcher                  
Butch Deal                   deal@hightop.nrl.navy.mil
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: * Problems with JPEG Viewer 1.1
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:29:23 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Howdy,
	I've been having problems with JPEG viewer 1.1 for the Mac.
It locks up when I try to load a PICT file I created using MediaGrabber
with my RasterOps 364. Both GIF Converter 2.2.10 and TeachText will load
those files, but JPEG locks up on me completely.
	With version 1.0, it locks up opening these files, but
dragging-and-dropping the files onto the JPEG viewer works fine! JPEG
viewer 1.1 will load 8bit PICTs perfectly as well as 24 bit PICTs
distributed with the program. Configuration:

Mac IIsi with 17 MB
QuickTime

This is my minimum configuration and it still doesn't work. Even with 32
bit addressing on AND off. Has anyone else had this problem?

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
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= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
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========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
From: phd11@seq1.kl.ac.uk (Tony McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Info on Powerbooks via electronic means?
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:18:34 GMT
Reply-To: phd11@seq1.kl.ac.uk (Tony McDonald)
Organization: University of Keele, England

Hi Netters,
I am in the position where I may need to get hold of a portable mac in the
near future. I'm not thinking of the original portable, so I'd like info
on the Powerbook machines.

Does anyone know where a review of the Powerbook series is held electronically?
I know that I've got info on the beasties on paper, but that's all held in
storage at the moment.

Any pointers gratefully received.
Tone.

Tony McDonald (Tone) arf!
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From: axtlp@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Screen Savers/Screen Blankers
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:34:08 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska

Screen Saver/Blanker

The Mac's in the labs I work in are starting to get some serious burn in.
Therefore I would like to find some freeware/PD screen savers or screen
blankers.  If you know of one could you please email me a message.
				Thanks
				Tam Pikey
				axtlp@acad2.alaska.edu
				axtlp@alaska.bitnet
From: Timothy.Allen@dartmouth.edu (Timothy Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: System 7 "map" control panel
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:27:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Jul30.142733.27834
 <152k1kINNsrp@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <152k1kINNsrp@agate.berkeley.edu>
sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai) writes:

> The Map Control Panel sets your Mac's time zone.
> This is a somewhat superflous (IMO) variable to control.

[some stuff deleted]

> Most people never even bother with this Control Panel.  The
> only application I've seen to which the time zone was an issue
> is AutoClock, which keeps your internal clock on track by
> dialing up to an atomic clock in Washington, D.C.  AutoClock
> needs to know the time zone to calculate the offset & daylight
> savings.

The Map Control Panel does a lot more than just set your Mac's time
zone -- It also sets your Mac's location (Latitude and Longitude). 
This kind of information will undoubtedly become important as the world
becomes increasingly internetworked.  

The Map control panel has some very useful applications, too:  you can
use it to find out the current time anywhere else on the globe (gee,
it's 5:00 here, can I call my sister in Timbuktu still, or will she
have gone to bed already?), and it can compute the straight line
distance between two locations (approximately how many frequent flyer
miles will I get for this trip?)

Sure, most people probably do never bother to look at the Map Control
Panel -- IMO, that's their loss.

tim.allen@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lordreyn@iastate.edu (Christian J Reynolds)
Subject: Re: How to increase transfer speed in Kermit
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:44:07 GMT

Hello.
	It is necessary for me to use Kermit here at ISU, and we have a Unix
based minicomputer and a Vax/Vms machine to work with.  The Unix machine allows
2048 bytes per packet, and the Vax machine allows 1016.  Because we have 
direct lines from our dorms to a network connecting us to the mini's, I do 
all my downloading at 19200 bps.  I set my packet sizes to the maximum on
either machine I am working with, and White Knight reports that I am receiving
more than I asked for.
	Use more than the 94 packetsize.  It runs faster, and with less errors.

Christian Reynolds
Iowa State University

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:14091 comp.sys.mac.system:10530
From: choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu (Dongseok Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Cursorfixor init
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:34:47 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Hello!
 I received several mail about CursorFixer init.
 This is for power book to solve the losing I-bar cursor when
you move mouse to fast.

 The inti can be ftp'd from
/mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/mac/system.extensions/init

by anomymous login to wuarchive.wustl.edu .


 I hope this can help you.


Choi
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac:148 comp.sys.mac.system:10235 comp.sys.mac.misc:13575 comp.sys.mac.wanted:6855
From: plaplagn@metz.une.edu.au (Patrick Laplagne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Vladimir Butenko and Stalker Software?
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:06:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac

Hi. I'm looking for a way to acquire ScanShare for the Mac, a piece
of software written by Vladimir Butenko, of Stalker Software. The 
demo version of this init/extension gives his Internet address as:

netprod@stalker.srcc.msu.su

Mail to this address gets through OK but so far without answer.
Curiously, NSLookup doesn't know this site; maybe it is on some 
other network.
Does anyone know anything about 1) commercial distribution of 
ScanShare 2) the author or his company 3) the site itself?
Any info at all would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Patrick

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: kern@arecibo.aero.org (J.C. Kern)
Subject: Re: Subscripts and Superscripts
Organization: The Aerospace Organization
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:00:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.152355.25041@access.usask.ca>, greer@skorpio.usask.ca (Jim Greer) writes:
> 
> This may be a FAQ but. . .
> How do you make subscript or superscript characters in a hypercard field?
> There seems to be no subscript or superscript style.  Is there a font?
> Please email replies to 
> greer@cs.usask.ca 

The current version of Hypercard does not support super/subscripting.  The 
only work-around solution that we have found is to use a font that provides
this utility.  We are currently using SuperScientific and SubScientific.
It's a hassle, but it works.


J.C. Kern                            email:  kern@arecibo.aero.org
The Aerospace Corporation            phone:  (310) 336-3573
P.O. Box 92957                       vmail:  (310) 336-5454 x63573
Los Angeles, CA 90009-2957    

                 "May you live in interesting times."
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Subscripts and Superscripts
Date: 29 Jul 1992 17:11:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

In article <29JUL199217425346@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov> lev@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.200033.9008@aero.org>, kern@arecibo.aero.org (J.C. Kern) writes...
>>The current version of Hypercard does not support super/subscripting.  The 
>>only work-around solution that we have found is to use a font that provides
>>this utility.  We are currently using SuperScientific and SubScientific.

>I've also had some success with a font called "Hi-Low" (although the "high"
>is the majority and there are very few subscript chars)... 

OK, now can anyone tell me where I can get either the Super/SubScientific
or the Hi-Low fonts? Are they freeware? If so, are they available at an
ftp site? If not, who makes them? Thanks!

Bill Alves
From: christod@cs.hw.ac.uk (Panagiotis Christodoulidis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Help wanted for sound
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:16:40 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


Hi all,

I want to include sound in a stack I created but there seem to be some problems.I read the audio help and it seems that the only way to save a recorded sound
is by saving it as a button. What I want is when the user reads the text from
the card to have a voice giving instructions.When I save the audio file in
the system's file I cannot access through my stack and the same happens 
when I save the file in another stack, which is open the same time. The script
I used is:
   
           on Opencard
           play "sound"
           ..........
           end Opencard

Could you please help me? I need it as soon as possible so please reply
by e-mail.

Thanks in advance

Panagiotis Christodoulidis
MSc in HCI
Heriot-Watt University
Edinburgh
From: danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Converting Sounds to Hypercard Format
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:56:41 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee

I have a bunch of sounds that I am going to include in my
Hypercard Stack.  The only problem is that they want play.
When I use Resedit to try them as Hypercard sounds they
sound terrible.  I am aware that there is a difference 
between Hypercard sounds and normal System Sounds.  Is there
a program out there that will let me convert my System 7
saved sounds to Hypercard sounds?  Any info would be
greatly appreciated.

I remember a program once that I got on Apple.com that would
let you extract "snd " resources and save them as type 1 or
type 2 (hypercard) sounds.  Does anyone remember this programs
name?

Thanks in advance.

Danny McCampbell
danny@utkux1.utk.edu
From: clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: identifying black pixels?
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:47:14 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <oeR3hvy00WBN43zkoA@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Charles A. Hill"
 <ch2i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Is there a way to tell hypercard, "If the pixel at clickPoint is black,
> move over one pixel?"

Yes, a number of XCMDs let you check a particular pixel.

> 
> *Of course, if HC had irregular shaped buttons, this wouldn't be a
> problem.  (Hint for the next update.):-)

You can also have this; there are XCMDs for polygonal buttons.

This question would have been answered by using my 
Guide-To-XCMDs, available on sumex. -- matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: cmi@oracle.uucp (Eileen Riley)
Subject: Re: Field existance query?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:36:14 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

How to check if field myField exists?

   put there is a field myField into myFieldExists -- returns true or false

   if myFieldExists then
     do stuff
     ...
   end if

   Alternately you could...

   If there is a (bg/cd) field myField then

     do stuff
     ...
   end if

Hope this helps,
Jon Barron
Oracle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell)
Subject: XCMD for finding System Version?
Organization: University of Tennessee
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:03:35 GMT

Is there an external command or function that someone has
written to find out the System Version a user is running 
on his/her mac?

Danny McCampbell
danny@utkux1.utk.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hypercard:2942 alt.hypertext:615
From: thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu (Jamie Thingelstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: Greater than one line of code to palette buttons
Date: 31 Jul 92 21:08:36 GMT
Followup-To: thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

I found the same problem before. I worked around it by having the palette
buttons call handlers in the stack script... so the palette buttons script is:

on mouseUp
  callMyHandlerInStackScript
end mouseUp

and then just place that handler in stack script...

on callMyHandlerInStackScript
  -- do stuff here
end callMyHandlerInStackScript

hope that helps...

--


+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Jamie Thingelstad                 | Ronald Reagan: A Triumph of the         |
From: danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Built in function to find out System Version?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:28:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: utkux1.1992Jul30.172829.9441
Organization: University of Tennessee

Did someone mention that there was a built in function in
Hypercard 2.0 that will let you find out what system
version the mac is using?  I lost the message that
someone sent me on this subject.  Sorry.  Thanks.

Danny McCampbell
danny@utkux1.utk.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: babb@ucselx.sdsu.edu (babb j)
Subject: XCMD for Hotwords???
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:59:17 GMT

Is there a XCMD (or a good script trick) for defining a certain chunk
of string as a hotword, and then performing some action when that chunk is
clicked on? IOW, I want to be able to define hotwords much as ToolBook
lets me define them.
 Thanx. Jeff.

-- 
Jeff Babb - Programmer/Technical Support - San Diego State University
Language Acquisition Resource Center (L.A.R.C.) (619)594-4475 
babb@ucsvax.sdsu.edu  
.."now go away or I shall taunt you a second time" M.P.& T.H.G.
From: ffdkl@acad3.alaska.edu (Dan LaSota)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: XCMD for finding System Version?
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:13:14 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1



In article <1992Jul27.180335.17740@utkux1.utk.edu> Danny W. McCampbell,
danny@utkux1.utk.edu writes:
>Is there an external command or function that someone has
>written to find out the System Version a user is running 
>on his/her mac?
>
>Danny McCampbell
>danny@utkux1.utk.edu

Such an XFCN called findSysVersion() is part of GestaltLook!
GestaltLook! is a set of HyperCard externals wrapped in a syntax
dictionary and
accompanied by a sample stack.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lreda@sophia.smith.edu (Liana Maria Reda)
Subject: RevRdist 
Organization: Smith College
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:51:40 GMT

	Hello.  Does anyone know if there is a utility or hypercard stack 
that can simplify creating the distribution control file to RevRdist?

	Can you please mail me at lreda@sophia.smith.edu?


Thanks.


-Liana


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: rune.sandnes@avh.unit.no (Rune Sandnes)
Subject: QuickTime control
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:32:20 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11b


  I need to be able to jump to specific frames in a QuickTime-film,
(e.g. frame 124) but I can't work out how this is done with the
Apple XCMDs. (From the QuickTime 1.0 CD). There is of course
currTime, but I can't refer to frames there can I? (It only accepts
"time" as far as I can find out.)
  Sorry if this sounds basic, but I started using HyperCard two
weeks ago...


  Rune Sandnes                 To Be Is To Do  -  Socrates
  rsandnes@siri.unit.no            To Do Is To Be  -  Sartre
  or rune@swix.ifi.unit.no             Do Be Do Be Do  -  Sinatra
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: QuickTime control
Organization: Massey University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:23:53 GMT

From article <1992Jul22.133220.28001@ugle.unit.no>, by rune.sandnes@avh.unit.no (Rune Sandnes):
> 
>   I need to be able to jump to specific frames in a QuickTime-film,
> (e.g. frame 124) but I can't work out how this is done with the
> Apple XCMDs. (From the QuickTime 1.0 CD). There is of course
> currTime, but I can't refer to frames there can I? (It only accepts
> "time" as far as I can find out.)
>   Sorry if this sounds basic, but I started using HyperCard two
> weeks ago...
> 
> 
>   Rune Sandnes                 To Be Is To Do  -  Socrates
>   rsandnes@siri.unit.no            To Do Is To Be  -  Sartre
>   or rune@swix.ifi.unit.no             Do Be Do Be Do  -  Sinatra
See follow up to "HyperCard 2.1 QuickTime" above. The Pictoid Package
provides absolute & relative frame & time positioning.

Hope this helps,
		Nigel
-- 
---
Dr Nigel Perry                    Email: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz
Department of Computer Science    Tel: +64 6 356 9099 ext 8900
Massey University                 Fax: +64 6 350 5611
Palmerston North
New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: byrne@cc.gatech.edu (Michael Byrne)
Subject: Re: Setting File TYPE & CREATOR of created files
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:25:32 GMT

In article <+7T-0G=@engin.umich.edu> waanders@umich.edu (Nicholas Waanders) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.171638.23170@aimla.com>, mike@optimla.aimla.com
> (Mike Diehr) writes:
>> 
>> Is there any way to set the TYPE and CREATOR of files created by
>> hypercard's "open file X ; write X to file fileName" commands?
>> I'd like to make the text files double-clickable into MPW instead
>> of teachtext.
>>
>In my investigation, there is no xcmd which will take a given file and
>change its TYPE and CREATOR.  However, there are xcmds which give you
>more options for opening files, such as Rinaldi's FullSFPack (SF refers
>to the standard file dialog).  However, even FullSFPack does not let you
>"type" the file.  The only XCMD that I know of to do what you want is 
>the WRITETOFILE xcmd which is part of the Dartmouth 3.4.3 set.
>
>Nick

Wow.  Contact SW.LICENSE@Applelink.apple.com for a list of currently
licenseable XCMDs & XFCNs.  On this list is an XCMD called SetFileInfo
which will allow you to set the type/creator info.    

============================================================
Mike Byrne                               byrne@cc.gatech.edu
Grad student in Psychology/Cognitive Science
25947 GA Tech Station, Atlanta, GA 30332

----->>>>    "Only the mediocre are always at their best."
					
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: by303@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay L. Cross)
Subject: Manipulating VAX files with HyperCard
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:19:31 GMT


I'm developing a series of HC (2.something) stacks for a small
group of users.  The MIS folks at this location have asked that
a part of the info these users will maintain in HyperCard on
their Macs also be made available to their VAX users.  At this
point I plan to simply export as text the necessary fields
to a file on the VAX.
Can someone tell me where I can find information about DAL or
some other means of doing this?  As a follow-on project, I'd
like to be able to offer this client a way to access a "VAX
file" (whatever that is - please assume complete ignorance of
VAX stuff on my part) directly from HyperCard, so the HC users
can manipulate the data as required, and VAX users (with some
as yet unknown software) can do the same.
I'm looking for FAQ files, books, or just phone/email conversa-
tion with somebody who can point me in the right direction.
I'll also need sources for the software (XFCNs & XCMDs, I sup-
pose).  Any cost info would also be appreciated.
Please email responses to me, and I'll post the results if
there is any interest.
Thanks very much.
 
Jay Cross (by303@Cleveland.FreeNet.Edu)
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Help! Stack Losing Field Information!
Date: 18 Jul 92 23:54:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Jul7.080149.16357@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, tres@spot.Colorado.EDU (Tres Hofmeister) writes:
> 
> 
> 	I've got a stack built under HyperCard 2.1, with the the FastTab
> 1.0.3 XCMD and the Get/SetCreator 2.2 and Get/SetFile 2.2 XCMD/XFCN's
> installed.  It would appear that certain fields are "losing" data, by which
> I mean that data entered one day is not there the next.

This seems like a much too obvious answer, but if the cantModify property is
true then fields will not retain changes when closed.

There will be a small lock icon in the menu bar when cantModify is true.

Jon
From: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: WAIT Command
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:17:40 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Indiana University


	Is there anything faster than 1 TICK when using WAIT?  I tried
WAIT .5 TICK, but of course it wanted an integer.


-- 
-brian
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