HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: More on CD-ROM drives
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:59:52 GMT

Thanks to Tom Hatton for the post on CD-ROM drives that are supported by the
new beta drivers.

Out of that tremendous long list, Hard Drives International (local for me)
carries perhaps several near-matches:

	List says NEC 84; HDI has NEC 84J

	List says a variety of Texel models; HDI says Talon is == Texel
		and HDI has Talon TA-100 and TA-200.

Does anyone know if any of the above from HDI will actually work in OS/2 mode?

Thanks,



orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pkedrosk@student.business.uwo.ca (Paul S. Kedrosky)
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:38:40 GMT

>gagnon@aix1.uottawa.ca (Jean-Serge Gagnon 564-7183)  writes:
>>n article <1992Dec16.152535.12204@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> hwhalen@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Hugh Whalen) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec16.072137.28867@sequent.com> furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec15.210437.934@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram) writes:
>>[Stuff about IBM laying off 25,000 people deleted]
>>>IBM is among the most conservative of the blue chip stock companies
>>>and has long earned it's reputation as a stable commodity in the
>>
>>Ahem .... stable? I believe that around 1987 IBM stock was trading at
>>approximately $178 per share. Yesterday it was trading at $56 per
>>share. God help us if this is stability. :)

>This doesn't belong here, but I wish people would talk when they knew what
>they were talking about!!!! Have you ever heard of "spliting"? It's a
>[long lecture about stock splitting deleted]

This is all very nice but it's really unfortunate it doesn't have
anything to do with IBM's stock price since 1987. It hasn't split,
it's just been falling like a stone as the market comes to understand
the fundamental problems in IBM's business model and in many lines of
their business. The bloom is off the IBM rose as an NYSE bellwether.

>So PLEASE, make sure you know what you're talking about, before saying
>something so drasticaly influential to the minds of people who REALLY have
>no idea what it means other that money.

Oh God I'm tempted to say it. Now Paul, restrain yourself, he's
obviously just a confused fellow, well-intentioned but confused.

>PLEASE, no flames, I just wanted to straghten this out. If a discussion
>arises from this, please note I have set follow-up to talk.bizzare.

For a minute or two I had no idea why you would redirect a
legitimate discussion of the health of IBM as a business to that
bastion of irrelevancy and silliness, talk.bizarre, until I got the
point of the joke: yours was a fantasy post about some hypothetical IBM,
I get it. Ignore the rest of my post.

>Thanks.
>
>Jean-Serge Gagnon, Ottawa University, Ottawa, Canada  K1N 6N5

Just happy to be able to contribute to another deep meaningful,
conversation about IBM.

Paul

 __________________________________________________________________________
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Icon Crosshatching color setting?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:50:03 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <15DEC199218534912@zeus.tamu.edu> lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M) writes:
>	I reinstalled OS/2+SP after accidentally deleting some system files.:-(
>Everything works OK, and all of my desktop customization was preserved, except
>that the cross-hatching on the icon of an open folder has changed color-
>it formerly was the same color as the Shadow text (blue), but is now black.
>This is inconveinent, as the background desktop color is also black-result,
>invisible crosshatching.

Crosshatching is supposed to take on the same color as the icon's
text, either icon_text or shadow_text.

>	The strange thing is, the open shadows _do_ still have the proper color
>crosshatching!
>
>	Is there a setting in the font pallate that I've missed, or an *ini
>file entry that I could change to change this color to something visible?

Since you say you suffered a crash just before this happened, try
re-dragging the same scheme from the palette to the desktop and see if
that helps.  The hatching may not be the same setting, but copied
while a scheme is dragged.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: Will this work to add a 2nd drive ??
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:00:43 GMT

In article <BzCxE2.FAI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson) writes:

 >> Hello all.  I currently have a Maxtor 7130 IDE drive and will be adding
 >> a 7213 IDE drive within the week.  This is my plan of attack to try and
 >> keep room for future growth and keep things simple.  I would like to
 >> have  'system+commerc. apps+network apps' on the 210 meg disk and the 130 left
 >> for thesis, docs, misc. files that are used with the above apps.  This means
 >> moving almost everything to the new drive.  Here are the steps I plan, please
 >> comment on whether they are possible or not.  By the way I will have no
 >> boot manager or such here, straight OS/2.
 >> 
 >> 1)  Use wpsbk9 to backup my desktop colors and stuff.
 >> 
 >> 2)  Set up the new (210) drive as C: and format it and install the system
 >>     apps, etc.

Add the new drive FIRST as D:.  Format it withing OS/2 (HPFS or FAT, your 
choice, I recommend HPFS).  Use WPSBK to backup the desktop into a 
sub-directory on D:.

 >> 
 >> 3)  Temp. set up old drive(130) as C: and restore the desktop using the wpsbk9
 >>     utility to the D: drive.  Can wpsbk9 restore from C: drive to D: drive??
 >>     (C: the small drive should still have the boot info on it.)  Reconfigure
 >>     the drive so that I have C: 210 meg, D: 130 meg.

Now, switch the drives so that the new drive is C: and install OS/2.  Copy 
WipeWPS.EXE into c:\os2, shutdown, and re-boot from OS/2 floppies. CD to 
the sub-directory where WPSBK saved your desktop, and run WPSREST.CMD.
Copy CONFIG.SYS, STARTUP.CMD, and AUTOEXEC.BAT from the old drive to
the new drive.
 >> 
 >> 4)  Backup the stuff I want on the 130 meg drive and then reformat it to
 >>     get rid of the system stuff and the boot info.

Well, the reformat is nice, but not absolutely needed.  True, the boot record
still points to OS2LDR, but that doesn't take any room.  Why not just delete
the OS/2 directory structure, OS2LDR, OS2KRNL, README, STARTUP.CMD,
CONFIG.SYS, and AUTOEXEC.BAT?  Drag all this to the shredder, and its
gone.

 >> 
 >> Step 3 is what I'm not sure about.
 >> 
 >> If anyone has any comments about the procedure, a simpler way, etc. please
 >> let me know.  Also, if you have any comments about the disk break down let
 >> me know.  I know I've seen some pretty complex partioning ideas, but I'm not
 >> sure if for a home system it is worth it.  I main partion the 130 meg drive
 >> into a 110 meg and a 20 meg drive and let the 20 be swap space.  I'll be going
 >> to 16 or 20 meg system memory at about the same time so 20 meg should be more
 >> than enough for that.  I may even reduce the 20 meg swap space, I haven't seen
 >> many swapper.dat over 10 or meg even with 8 meg on the system??
 >> 
 >> Thanks,
 >> 
 >> Todd


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:33:36 -0800
From: Craig_Swanson@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: TE/2 error recovery
Comment-To: Cvetp036@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Craig_Swanson@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/514

 c> Do either of you sometimes get errors which takes TE/2 a 
 c> LONG time to recover?
 c> It seems like CRC error takes TE/2 around 30 sec to 1 minute to
recover.

THis is a bug in TE/2's Commpak.DLL.  Get the CPK2_102.ZIP file for
the latest version of the DLL that fixes this problem.


--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
 * Origin: OS/2 Connection @ La Jolla, CA  <619-558-9475> (1:202/514)
From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: XGA video modes
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:16:44 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:

>To clarify on another point - is IBM going to sell an ISA, as well as the
>MCA version? Or is that being left to others such as Radius?

IBM and Radius are working together with the ISA XGA-2 card.  Radius
manufactures the IS XGA-2 card and sells it in the states (maybe Canada as
well?).  In Europe (and I suppose the rest of the world) IBM is selling the
XGA-2 ISA Radius card through their ordinary dealers.

Mikael Wahlgren
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1? (Why it may cost) READ THIS!!
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:56:27 GMT

olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund) writes:
>future make Windows support an option. Past 1993 I will probably not
>need Windows support anymore, so why pay MS for it? Making Win support
>an option from let us say OS/2 2.2 or 3.0 can also boost the
>development of OS/2 applications, assuming that OS/2 will have a well
>established critical user base by then.

Do you really think this will be the case?  I wonder if most people
will either stick with DOS, or DOS+Win3.1, until WinNT comes out?
Jumping to OS/2 in between, while an interesting diversion for 
us techie types, may not be interesting to the average user.

-- 
heiser@world.std.com
From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: LPT1 CONFLICT SYS 1799
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:04:38 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <turner.723699736@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> turner@elec.uq.oz.au (Michael Turner) writes:
>I have just tried using Protel Traxedit for the first time
>since I installed the CSD. OS/2 now gives me a message to
>say that the printer port is in use by some other program.
>I have made sure that no other program is running but every
>time it checks the dongle I get the conflict message.
>Has anyone any idea why I am now getting this conflict.

I have a very similar problem. I am trying to run Laplink 4.0 in a DOS 
window. When I try and run it it says that LPT1 is in use by another task.
I tried disabling LPT1 in Laplink, but it still checks that port. I don't
even have a printer hooked up! Though I used to but can't figure out how
to disable it. If someone can tell us how to get LPT1 back, I think we'll
both be happy.

Has anyone been successful using Laplink under OS/2?

-- 
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From: jerome.yuzyk@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jerome Yuzyk) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OPTIMIZING EA'S
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: jerome.yuzyk@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jerome Yuzyk) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241


AH>I'm using OS2 with the FAT system and am periodicaly using Norton
AH>Utilities Speek Disk to repack the disk, but for some annoying reason
AH>the EA's are marked as read only, hence Speed Disk will not move them.
AH>Since the EA's are scattered all over the disk, this means that I can 

AH>never perform a truly complete disk optimization.  Does anyone know
AH>if it's OK to change the attributes of the EA's to read/write and then
AH>move them around with Speed Disk, or will that create all sorts of
AH>problems?  Any other solutions?

Absolutely!  I have a backup routine that runs NBACKUP, then unhides EA DATA.
SF
and WP ROOT. SF, SWAPPER.DAT, and all \DELETED files.  I then delete
SWAPPER.DAT
and all the \DELETED files, plus *.TMP, *.BAK, and various other temporary
files.
Finally, a SpeedDisk /ff with OS/2 system directories and my app directories
at
the head of the directory list, and various files in the file list.
 
The only ``problem'' is that on re-boot, if OS/2 does a CHKDSK /f, that any
files deleted during my DOS backup-cleanup-SpeedDisk _may_ report lost EAs,
but
so what?

All of this works for 3 logical drives across two physical drives, BTW.

___
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.)
Subject: Re: NT won't co-exist with OS/2?   
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.013647.18178@cdf.toronto.edu> g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis) writes:
>In article <sal8.246.724201910@po.cwru.edu> sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec12.192416.9499@ichips.intel.com> jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.) writes:
>>>From: jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.)
>>>Subject: Boot Manager: Does any one have a compatibility list?
>>>Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:24:16 GMT
>
> [stuff deleted] ... 
>>>Windows NT (beta), Lan Manager, DOS 6.0, and earlier versions of DOS.
>>
>>The NT beta has code included that makes it absolutely refuse to install if 
>>it detects the OS/2 boot manager on your hard drive. Pretty rude of MS if 
>>you ask me (OS/2 does no such check for NT).
>
> Hmm, that just gave me a hell of an idea! Why not write a little utility
> that will disable the OS/2 Boot Manager bit from the Master Boot Record?
>
> And make it available for ftp! Who knows I might get a chance over X-mas
> to do this myself. Don't hold your breath though.
>
> Nick.
>
Nick, I would truly appreciate getting a copy of this if you do decide to
write it.

John Burns
jburns@ichips.intel.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Idiots Become Managers (aka IBM)
Reply-To: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:45:52 GMT

Well, the XGA-2 problem has really taken a curve. It seems that IBM is
FORCING Radius to charge $499 for the ISA card because they have stiff
licesensing fees and such. In other words, the reason Radius is charging
$200 more for the same card is because IBM really enjoys shooting itself
in the foot.

So much for caring about it's customers. Looks like all IBM really cares
about are the wealthy few who can pump $$MEGA into the same thing the 
rest of us can't.

This really sucks. The real slap is that the microchannel board is $100
less. 

Guess I really ought to unload that stock I picked up....

Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: Re: Of Mice and Modems.....
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:29:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.220903.14553@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>   If you have your mouse on COM2 and your modem on COM1....then swap
>   them.
>
>   I was having trouble with up/downloads and TE/2 recently. But a
>   helpful netter suggested I swap the ports as this problem is
>   common whatever the OS.
>
>   Sure enough! He was right.
>
>   No more problems.
>
>   SO: Mouse on COM1 and modem on COM2.
>
>   Steve

I made this switch back when I was using Windows and it would
sometimes fail to start.  I discovered that the reason was that Win
was trying to auto-detect my serial Logitech mouse, first on COM1 then
on COM2.  It would hit the modem first and sometimes get hung.  When I
put the mouse on COM1 this never happened again.

I didn't think this could be a problem in OS/2, since the COM port for
the mouse port is plainly stated (correctly even) in the CONFIG.SYS
file.
-- 
Richard Krehbiel                                 richk@grebyn.com
OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: frigo@psl.wisc.edu (Sean P. Frigo UW-Madison SRC (608)877-2332,-2001(FAX))
Subject: Video Driver Dilemna (ATI, Unghh!)
Reply-To: frigo@psl.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Physical Science Lab
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:47:41 GMT


The following is an excerpt from an e-mail sent to me by ATI in response
to my request about OS/2 2.0 32 bit drivers:


<<<Subj:	Re: OS/2 2.0 32 bit drivers!
From: ATI Support <74740.667@CompuServe.com>
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 32 bit drivers!
Date:  12-17-92
As can found here in the ATI forum in CompuServe, or by contacting ATI
support, IBM has not yet released the Development Kit which allows us to
complete 32 bit video drivers for OS/2 (and you will not find any other
video board manufacturers with 32 bit video drivers on the market). IBM
has not even released their own 8514/A 32 bit driver yet! Once we have
the development kit, we will be able to complete and release 32 bit
drivers. Meanwhile, the current OS/2 drivers we supply will work with the
versions of OS/2 1.3x and 2.x, with the 16 bit Graphics Engine.

Regards,

Allan Nelson,
ATI Customer Support>>>

_______________________________________________________________________________


(1)	I thought Trident had released 32 bit drivers.  If so, how could
	they have done it w/out the Development Kit from IBM?  Or, is ATI
	the party at fault, since the above is in error and the kit exists?

(2)	If the kit hasn't been released yet, when will it be?  Let's hope
	it is soon!




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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Where's FAQ?
Date: 13 Dec 92 02:38:48 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania



Hi,

Where's the FAQ?

			Joe Panico
			joe@retina.antomy.upenn.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Subject: Re: Misc OS/2 questions (especially CSD installation)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:11:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.221646.26349@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> you write:
>
>It's a pity that OS/2 provides no support for >1.4 meg on (so-called)
>1.4meg diskettes. With FDREAD under DOS, you can go to 82 trakcs and
>extra sectors too and get up to 1.76MB on a disk. I can't see why IBM chose
>not to include such support. We are intelligent to realise that if we use
>such disks, other people won't be able to use the disks (unless they run
>FDREAD under DOS lets say) and take care. They claim a DOS better than DOS
>but in some areas I feel they could have made it even better!
>
Try it.  Works fine on some hardware.  On my ZEOS 486/33 I have to format the
disks from a native DOS session with fdformat but once that is done, OS/2 will
read and write to the disks with no problems to date.  Used this trick to 
install the OS/2 beta from a 5 1/4 A: drive way back when.

Robert McBroom internet: rm3@ornl.gov

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan)
Subject: Re: CSD and DOS window switching...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:31:22 GMT

andrewb@lynx.cs.washington.edu (Andrew Berg) writes:

>About a week ago, I installed the CSD.  Since then I've been unable to switch
>a DOS window from being full-screen to windowed.  Going the other way I have
>to pick Full Screen off the little menu.  Without the CSD I could use the 
>Alt-Home, but no more.  Alt-Esc still works, though.

Find the icon from which you started the application (not the one in the
Minimized Window Viewer).  Get the menu with the right mouse button, and
select the 'Windowed' option.

-- 

Jack Tan                                     Sattinger's Law:
jahk@uiuc.edu                       It works better if you plug it in.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: Any news on OS/2 2.1?
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:14:56 GMT

The January OS/2 update is rumoured to be a complete set of disks,
not a set of fixes.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
The Columbia River is now the most radioactive river in the world.

This environmental/nuclear nightmare, one of a series, brought to you
courtesy of General ("We Bring Good Things to Life") Electric.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bsn@world.std.com (Brent S Noorda)
Subject: DISKCACHE vs IFS CACHE
Summary: DISKCACHE and IFS /CACHE:  Which to use?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:48:14 GMT

The command tells that the CACHE/: in the IFS line of
CONFIG.SYS provides disk caching.  It also says that 
the DISKCACHE line provides diskcaching.  Do these
things work together? Are they exclusive?  What?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc