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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject:  A bunny question
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:54:45 GMT

Hi.  I have a question about something my bunny started doing
recently.  

His cage is always open and he uses the litter box that's in
there to pee and sometimes for his pills.  If he doesn't use
the litter box for the pills (is that the correct term), he'll
leave them on the floor next to his cage.

Recently, he started leaving clumps of pills around the patio.
They're different than the little round hard ones.  They look
like little bunches stuck together and they're soft. I keep
cleaning them up, and he keeps leaving more of them. I can't
tell if he lays on them or they're melting down from the heat
(this is south florida), but they meld together in one big
lump. He still does the regular ones at his cage.  

He doesn't act like he's sick, but I'm wondering if there is
something wrong with his digestion.  Should I take him to the
vet?  If it's not a medical problem, how can I get him to stop
doing it?  It's really gross and messy to see little lumps of
turds all over.

He's also shedding a lot.  I've been brushing him every day,
but it doesn't seem to be helping much.  I also give him a
papaya tablet every day.  I had started giving him two a day until
this problem started, and I thought that it might have
something to do with it so I cut him back down to one a day.
That didn't help either.


Please respond with email, as we don't seem to be receiving
many postings at this site.  I'm afraid I'll miss your answer
if you respond only to the net.

thanks in advance,
jan
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From: sk2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steve Klim)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Setter's
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:01:55 GMT
Organization: Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 This is the first time i have posted on this bboard, so please excuse
any mistakes or type O's with this posting.
        Recently my Irish Setter pased away (14 years old). This dog was
a great companion and my family is missing him very much. We are
considering another setter because of this dog's enjoyment throughout
the years.
         I have a few questions about a setter I had seen a few years ago.
The setter seemed to have all the marking and traits of an Irish Setter
with the exception he was black. I have asked a few people if they new
what type of setter this may have been. Someone suggested it was a dog
not to common but is of a breed. My questions are:
1) What is the type or breed of this Setter?
2) Do they have similar character or attitude of the Irish Setter?
3) How rare are they?
4) Would the cost (apprx.) one would pay, be much more than the Irish
Setter (A.K.C. registered)? 
5) Do these dogs act differently, such as temperment or attitude, from
that of the Irish Setter? 

Any information regarding this breed of dog would be appreciated.

                                                Steve Klim - C.M.U.
Newsgroups: rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Need help with flea problem
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: cats,fleas,South
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:16:05 GMT

The last time I posted a question on this newsgroup I got a lot
of answers and some very good advice.  I'm hoping that people
will be as free with their help again.

We have been in Georgia for 4 months and are in the midst of a
HUGE flea problem.  We adopted the outdoor cat that lived with the
house's previous owners and we think she's brought them.  In any
case all four cats are now infested.  We have been using sprays,
shampoos, flea combs, area sprays and it seems like a losing 
battle.

My questions are: 
1)  can anyone vouch for any products that really work?  We now
    have Spectricide and DeMize and some others, but we have not
    idea if we are wasting our time.

2)  Are their any flea collars that work, I mean really get
    rid of the fleas.

3)  Has anyone tried those "electronic" flea collars?  Do
    they work or are they just a gimmick.


Please send any responses via e-mail since I don't get onto 
usenet as much as I like and my mail reader skips messages like
crazy.


thanks, in advance.


marc colten


Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: bunny shampoo
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:19:39 GMT

In article <BtAw0y.AAD@world.std.com> marty@world.std.com (Marty M HaleEvans) writes:
>This brings up a question over which I was musing recently:
>
>How does one most safely and effectively bathe a bunny?

	Only if absolutely necessary.  Rabbits will chill very easily
	if their coats get wet.  In the meantime, find a friend who
	isn't a haemophiliac and hold the little sucker down firmly
	but carefully to give them a good brushing.  Change the litter
	pan every day in the meantime until the operation.  Use shredded
	paper as litter, this adsorbs odors quite well and the vet may
	recommend it while the stitches heal.

	Alec Chambers

	P.S.  If you gently stroke a rabbit on the stomach it will
	calm down.  Also, if you persist, they will get used to a lot
	of handling.
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Exspot -- warning to cat owners
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:28:32 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.050430.25631@sco.COM> megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts) writes:
>My vet says Exspot is known to be poisonous to cats,
>and she would suspect that rabbits can't handle it,
>either.  She doesn't think it is poisonous to dogs,
>but if i were using it i think i would be extremely
>careful to scrub my hands thoroughly after applying
>it no matter what animals were around.

What is EXspot?
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - D Adams
  - Patrick Taylor
    Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    alternately, exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Bathing cats (was Re: Rescue cat)
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 23:33:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.205543.16920@athena.mit.edu> amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>> Is it mostly outdoor cats that people are bathing?  
>
>I give my kitten a bath as a preventative method for allergies.

Our two girls are outdoor days, indoor nights (though Abby has stayed outside
a few nights). Boots has had several baths, mostly as a small kitten, because
it took her a long time to learn to wash herself decently. Abby helped, but
it wasn't the same.

As near-adults, they've each had two baths. There are two reasons for this.
First, they *love* to roll in the dirt, and even thorough tongue-baths don't
get all the deep-down dust out. And second, a bath removes a lot of dead hair
which they would otherwise be ingesting. It's even better than brushing for
that. They dislike both baths and brushing, but with two of us we manage it.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rivkin@watson.bms.com (Terri Rivkin)
Subject: Re: Bathing Cats (was Rescue cat)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:04:00 GMT

Up until a month ago, when we had a bout with fleas, my husband never bathed 
his cats, who are four years old.  They keep themselves very clean, and since 
they don't go outside (until recently when they got the fleas) I don't see why 
they should need a bath.  I can tell you that after our bout with the fleas is 
over, we will never bath them again unless we have to (they will be kept 
indoors from now on)!  They don't like it at all, but maybe that's because
they weren't bathed as kittens and while they were growing up.

I have a girlfriend who bathes her cat once a month.  The cat does not go 
outside except onto the balcony (2nd floor), so I wonder why she does this.  
By the way, her cat LOVES it!  He's been bathed though since he was a little 
kitten.

Terri Rivkin
Xerox Network Administrator
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Princton, NJ
Rivkin@bms.com
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How long cats live (was Re: Indoor cat wants out)
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:59:20 GMT
	<a37gPB1w165w@valinor.mythical.com>
	<1992Aug14.150723.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>
	<1992Aug17.181204.1830@linus.mitre.org>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

my cat data:(all indoor only cats)

eeaoo- died at age 2 from a disease she most likely got from her mother, an
	outdoor stray

leela-living at 13

reka mao-living at 12

little kitty-living at 12

kimmy-living at 11

buster-living at 7
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dauphin@adobe.com (Kimberly Dauphin)
Subject: Scratching that litter 'til the cows come home...
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:19:41 GMT

Sigh.  My SO's cat, Fezzik, scratches in the litter box
for (*literally*) hours.  It doesn't matter if it's slightly
dirty or brand-spanking new litter.  He scratches and scratches
and scratches.

He scratches the litter.  He scratches the box.  He scratches the 
floor.  He scratches the wall.  He scratches my bike tire next
to the box.  He scratches the ironing board.  He scratches the
pooper-scooper.  He scratches the closet door...........

I hate to punish him for doing something he obviously thinks
is simply a conscientious effort.  But how can I get him to
stop after a few scratches?

Any advice? Thanks in advance.

-- 
_____________________________________________________

Kimberly Dauphin	Adobe Systems Incorporated
dauphin@adobe.com	Mountain View, CA
From: laurie@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Laurie Schaaf)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:51:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Cat likes cantelope???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats




I too have a cat that goes nuts for cantelope and watermelon.  If I don't
give her a bite she sits on my lap and will eventually bat at my hand wanting
her share.  Just last night we had watermelon and her came Tundra (female
calico) out of nowhere and up on the table wanting a bite.  She forgot
herself on this one.  WE all laughed and she got her plate of watermelon.
She would not touch the bite of chicken though.  She also is this way with
corn on the cob.  We have to give her a cob when we are done and she is
in 7th heaven.

Fun aren't they ;)


			Laurie Schaaf


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Leaving cats alone.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:35:17 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Aug21.165705.28967@tamsun.tamu.edu> joses@cs.tamu.edu (Batman the Destroyer) writes:
>
>Hello cataholics,
>
>I have a question regarding how long you can leave cats in an apartment.
>We are going on vacation next week and do not have anybody to look after
>our two cats.  Does anybody know how long you can leave cats in an
>apartment by themselves?  (Assuming we leave them plenty of water and food).

I never leave mine for more than 3 days without someone
checking on them.  I would kennel them before I'd leave them
much longer than that.

Natch...just MHO.

Debbie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Organization: Who, me? You should see my desk!
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:20:46 GMT

In article <5579@transfer.stratus.com> kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley) writes:
>[massaging, buttering, kneading, making muffins, etc]
>
>On a slightly different tack, our calico has a way of popping
>straight up in the air off of all four paws at once when startled,
>the height off of the ground being directly proportional to the
>degree of startle.  We've always called this "toastering".  Do
>other cats do this?  This is the first one we've had that does.
>
One of the funniest things I ever saw a cat do was when a friend's
cat did this underneath a glass coffee table.  BONK! He stunned
himself for a moment, looked around and said to us "You didn't
see that", and walked away.

Steve       Generic Disclaimer
From: geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Advice on Allergies
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:25:08 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Aug17.033825.2434@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
> 	My husband and I just moved into a 2 bedroom apartment (a really small
> apartment), and although Eric desperately wants a cat, alas, I am allergic.
> 
> 	I was just reading this post, and a lot of people have mentioned
> that bathing cats helps reduce allergants.  The problem here is that I am
> a severe, chronic asthmatic, and cats getting into my face make me ill.  Is
> this bathing method effective enough for people like myself, for whom
> casual contact with cats can be life threatening?

I haven't read all the answers to this, so it may be that somebody else will
bring this up. Don't bet on being able to keep a cat, even with bathinng..

We bathed mine, and used AllerPet on him. He's a shorthair, but my asthma
kept getting worse and worse. First I couldn't breathe in the house, then
it started happening outside the house. We had the carpet cleaned, the ducts
done, etc., but nothing helped. Until, a wonderful friend with the best home
in the world took in Bruce (11 years old) as a foster parent. Within 2 days,
no more asthma. If your condition was much worse to start, I can't imagine
you being able to keep a cat. I'm far less allergic to dogs, but mine had
to move outside also. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.  
-- 
P.K.
Geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: fstruwe@unlinfo.unl.edu (franklin struwe)
Subject: Re: help! piggy kitty
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:21:32 GMT

I also owned one piggy and one nibbler.  After the nibbler died, the 
piggy was somewhat easier to deal with.  He gets a scant 1/4 cup twice
a day of a high calorie high protein feed (c/d Science Diet).  He 
_hates_ this routine, but he's still fat (20 lbs) eating this.  He 
begs and howls for food for up to an hour before meal time.  He also 
tries to beg throughout the day if he thinks you are going anywhere 
near his dish.  The vet informed me that I needed to discipline him by
saying NO! and squirting him with water until he learned this was 
unacceptable.  I tired of that quickly and just try to tune him out 
now.

The only thing that shut him up (and that only worked 8-9 months) was 
to bring a German Shepherd Seeing Eye Dog into the apartment.  He had 
the cat cowed for long time, but now Cinder is back to fussing at us.

Sorry I don't have any really good suggestions!

Jacque Virts

**thanks F. John for letting me use your computer!**  

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dikig@ddsw1.mcs.com (Diki Gust)
Subject: Re: New cat--help will not sleep at night
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:43:23 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

In article <1684610188.LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu> LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu (Leslie M. Haas) writes:
>My friend is a brand new owner of a baby kitten, approximately 6
>weeks old and it is named Malcolm.  She wants advice on how to
>train it not to jump on her while she is sleeping!  We have
>all given her advice at work (everyone owns at least one cat)
>but to no avail.  It is time to seek advice from the experts.
>Thanks in advance......
> 
>Leslie (Maynard, Puddin and Patches)
> 

I needed a good chuckle.  Thanks!

                      Diki

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich RI
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:23:19 GMT

>In article <19685@plains.NoDak.edu> myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:
>>
>>  Hi again.  Another question about those cats that I am contemplating
>>on getting at the humane society has popped up.  After a reader answered
>>my last question I went and asked and found that these cats have not
>>been vaccinated for leukemia.  The price is too high for them to
>>justify it.
>>
>>  Now, these cats are $50 each with a refund of $20 each when they are
>>altered, plus the cost of altering plus all the additional shots that
>>are needed (they have only had te first set... booster and distemper).
>>Is this price normal for cats?  I am beginning to think that it would be
>>cheaper just to get one of those cats that people are giving away for
>>free instead of dealing with the HS.
>>
>>Comments?  Thanks
>>
>>Robert
>
>Hi.....
>
	All of the cats that I have had have originated as strays, but I 
	can only think of 1 better way to support your local humane society;
	DIRECT CASH CONTRIBUTIONS. Just think, support your humane society,
	and get a pet !
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat likes cantelope???
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:36:23 GMT
Organization: None, and I like it like that

In article <1992Aug18.230603.20821@gtephx.UUCP> machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic) writes:
>In article <42150004@hplsla.hp.com>, tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns) writes:
>> Does anyone else out there have a cat that loves _cantelope_??  As far
>> as I know, no other veggies do this to him.  We keep a bowl of kitchen
>> scraps that gets put on the compost pile occasionally, and if we put
>> cantelope rind in it, Mittens will almost invariably dig it out and
>> chew on it.  And he loves it if we cut up some of the inside flesh and
>> give it to him.
>> 
>
 Huggy Bear will jump up and beg for cantalope. He adores the flesh. If we
>have some rinds sitting in a bowl waiting to be carried to the trash, he
>will jump up and gnaw on them. He's about 4.5 months old, and we discovered
>this strange fancy about a month ago, right after he started getting bored
>playing with grapes.
>-- 
>Mindy
>*****************************************************************************************
My mother told me she had a cat that would go thru the garbage to
find cantelope rinds and eat them. 

Penny-the-terror has eaten recently tomato juice (got up on the
table and drank out my glass while my back was turned) and camellias.
I now have to put any camellias I bring into the house where she
can't get them after she chomped on them on 2 separate occasions.
Of course, I had a great deal of trouble keeping her out of a
bucket of pine cleaner and water this morning. Terminally curious.

Carol Denehy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:53:19 GMT

In article <23934@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick) writes:
> >your silliest pet names for your pet?  I call Sugar such things as
> >"Muffin-pet" "Copper-nose" "White-ears" "Nuisance" "Brat-Cat" "Furball"
> >and, embarrassingly, "Snufflenose".  This is just a random sampling -
> >I'm wondering what silly things you all have come up with.
> 
> Kepurr Lee (9 yrs/14lb tiger) = Big Guy or Stud (He loves the last one)
> Muffin Marie (8 yrs/8lb tabby) =  Miss Muffin/muffy girl/mama's girl
> Tigger-by-Digger (2 yrs/8lb mixed persian/maine coon/?) = Tiggy/tig
> Lady Teal Mocha (2 yrs/5lb himalayan) = TT/Lady T/Lady Teal/Teally Weally/
>                 weseal/T Mocha/mama's baby
> O'Yogi Bear (2 yrs/8lb himalayan) = Big Boy/Bear/B Bear/Groundhog/Yogums.


Boo Boo Kitty 14 pound, black, white hairs on chest and tummy.
Boo Boo Kitty, Boocat, Bubba, Big Guy, Little Guy (when Skippy was
still alive), Furball, Hairball, and after a recent post I stole a new
nickname for him - Snuffle Pig.  (Whoever wrote that please forgive my 
stealing this name from you, but it absolutely cracked me up.)


Gayle 'wish I was back in Illinois' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
From: mako@math.bu.edu (Mako Haruta)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Chronic FUS, CT vet info request
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:20:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Boston University, Boston

I have two neutered male cats, one of which was diagnosed with FUS
about 11 months ago.  Vet bills were high and my husband and I were
uncomfortable with the amount of medicine the cat had to take.
Vitamin C is the most commonly recommended alternative.  We bought
vitamin C pills, ground them up with a mortar and pestle (maybe also
available in powder form), and dosed the cat by adding it to his wet
food (Cornucopia and Lick Your Chops brands).  The first couple times
he was resistant because it's a little bitter, but now he doesn't seem
to mind.  This treatment worked as a cure when the FUS recurred, and
we continue it on a reduced scale with each meal as a preventative
action.  Both cats receive lots of water in the bowl with the wet
food, and they drink all of it.  They end up using more "EverClean"
cat litter that way, but we think it's worth it. . . . .  Any
recommendations from the network for a vet in the West Hartford, CT
area?  We're moving soon from Boston where we've enjoyed an all-cat
clinic called the Boston Cat Hospital.  Thanks!
--Shima's and Buster's Mom
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats