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From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Problems with 'named'
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 14:28:41 GMT

In article <4310332@hpindda.cup.hp.com> ash@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Art Harkin) writes:
>/ comp.sys.hp / system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) /  9:40 am  Dec 15, 1992 /
>
>> Unless your /etc/resolv.conf file contains nonsense, or you are
>> resolving names by NIS instead of DNS, you may have fallen on the
>> $INCLUDE bug in HP-UX named --- if you use $INCLUDE, it will destroy
>> your named data, since things like SOA records in the included file
>> are not seen, and IP address, etc, are garbled (many of ours got 255
>> inserted into one of the fields, which were easy to spot from a database
>> dump).
>
>  This is not entirely correct. $INCLUDE files do work, with the exception
>of one known bug (originally in BSD), that does not correctly count SOA RRs 
>within a zone. This bug only takes affect if the SOA record is located in 
>the INCLUDE file rather than the first level database file. In this particular
>case the database (after being loaded) is considered erroneous, and is not
>considered authoratative. The data then can be replaced by garbled data that
>looks authorative which may be the case for Utoronto.

I hate to be picky, but what I said is precisely correct, and is in fact
exactly what you just said in your posting! Using $INCLUDE causes the
SOA record to be ignored, and the named data becomes corrupted.

I have posted about this problem several times in response to other
people asking why named doesn't work, and in those postings I have also
stated that the problem also exists on HP Domain/OS systems, and thus
is probably in the original source code. The version of named that I
run has had some patches applied to correct the problem, which hits us
severely because we must run dual domains (".ca" and ".edu") to be able
to talk to our campus and the whole world at the same time; this is most
easily done by INCLUDEing the host data with different domains to avoid
editting two copies of nearly identical files. We also run redundant
master nameds, which have identical data (except for the SOA records).

Given that I originally called in this problem in June, that it was not
fixed in 9.0 and that a patch is still not available is none too impressive.
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From: piro@dollar.unice.fr (Oreste Piro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP VUE doesn't come up && named problems
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Distribution: world
Reply-To: piro@ecu.unice.fr
NNTP-Posting-Host: ecu.unice.fr

In article <1gl4eiINNbs4@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>  
jaenicke@emserver.ee.tu-berlin.de (Lutz Jaenicke) writes:
] 
] X (used by Vue) relies heavily on hostname resolution. If the 
] hostname isn't resolved properly to an IP address and vice versa,
] your machine will give you no end of trouble.
] 
] To set up the resolution properly, set up a file named "/etc/resolv.conf":
] #
] # resolv.conf fuer HP-UX Workstations
] # Institut fuer Elektrische Maschinen
] #
] domain ee.tu-berlin.de
] nameserver 130.149.50.135	# emserver.ee.tu-berlin.de (secondary, local  
subnet)
] nameserver 130.149.4.10		# mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de (univ's  
primary)
] nameserver 130.149.2.12		# wncs.zrz.tu-berlin.de
] 
] Since the information isn't secret, make it world readable (don't know
] if it works when restricted, who cares). Set your hostname without
] domain (for my local desktop "emws1"). The machine should start working
] without problems immediatly, supposed it is listed in the official  
nameservers
] databases (if not, have your net admin perform thist task IMMEDIATLY).
] 
] I hope I haven't forgotten anything, feel free to contact me with personal
] mail.


Yes, run "named" otherwise your problems with vue will reappear anytime 
the nameserver crashes.



] Lutz Jaenicke 				 
jaenicke@emserver.ee.tu-berlin.de 
] Institut fuer Elektrische Maschinen	jaenicke@emapollo.ee.tu-berlin.de
] Technische Universitaet Berlin		Tel. (004930)314-24552
] Einsteinufer 11, D-1000 Berlin 10 	Fax. (004930)314-21133 

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From: dennisk@hpuadla.aus.hp.com (Dennis Kingisepp)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:05:22 GMT
Subject: Re: A multi-screen serial protocol for the HP9000 and Windows
Organization: Adelaide, Australia, Smallest HP DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
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Kevin Nechodom (knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu) wrote:
: I've got a remote user on a 9600 baud modem dialling into our campus
: terminal server (unsure of the model) and telnetting to my 730.  I heard
: that there was a program developed that would allow multiple Windows
: screens to be multiplexed through a single serial port to a Un*x box.
: Does anyone know if:
: 
: 0. It really exists
: 1. It would work over a terminal server
: 2. It has been ported to the HP9000
: 
You could try the "tsm" (Terminal Session Handler) product. It allows
up to 8 screen sessions (10, if you count the print and manager "screens").
This works really well, and yes, it is ported to the 9k, and does run
through a terminal server.
I assume we are talking character mode UI in this instance.
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From: barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Need wuarchive's ftpd for HPUX
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:11:37 +0200
Organization: Dept. Elec. Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.ee.und.ac.za

In article <1992Dec23.115721.14510@mic.ucla.edu>,
ewu@agsm.ucla.edu (Eric Wu) writes:
> Has anyone ported wuarchive's ftpd, by Chris Myers at Washington
> University in Saint Louis, to HPUX?  Please let me know the 
> anonymous ftp site.  Thanks you.

It worked fine for me out of the box on an hp9000s300 with HP-UX 7.0.
I just compiled with -lhpux-compat and -lBSD.

Mail me if you need any of the stuff I have in my -lhpux-compat library,
which consists of a few freely available or locally written replacements
for stuff that HP forgot to include with HP-UX 7.0.

--apb
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From: zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: CSO Nameserver & HPUX
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:38:54 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Dec16.202300.20017@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>,
greene@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Courtney Greene) writes:
|> Hello,
|> 
|> I'm still trying, with no luck at all, to compile the CSO Nameserver
|> software
|> on an HP 9000 Series 750 running HP-UX 8.07. Is there anyone out there who
|> has
|> managed to get through the compilation? Does anyone know of an ftp site that
|> |> might have the compiled binaries?
|> 
|> All pointers will be appreciated!

I've more or less managed it but it's very dirty in some places though I
have got executables that seem to work.
I needed to use gcc - anything else just didn't seem to work.
There were 2 routines I needed to rewrite which I could only get to compile
with cc - they do the vfprintf stuff. I also needed to get a copy of flock
and use that though I see the latest version available has this with it.
I've commented out the cpu time limit stuff.

If you mail me with more details of your problems I'll see what I can do
to help though I'm not a c expert by any means.
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Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
From: prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr)
Subject: C2 level security on HP9000/827s
Keywords: security, trusted systems
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:57:57 GMT

We are considering a conversion of our system from standard /etc/passwd
file to the /.secure/etc/.passwd (shadow password) format.  HP's
implementation of C2 security has some additional overhead including
rewrites to disk and ram when files are deleted which we don't really
need.  I'm just wondering if anyone has implemented the shadow password
system on the HPs without using HPs "Trusted System" approach.

One other thing, with the "Trusted System", how much overhead is
involved with all the auditing and disk-rewriting is there?

	-Phil
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From: brown@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Brown)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:18:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Graphics accelerator slow ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, tay@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#Michael Taylor) writes:

> A graphics accelerator will improve the graphics performance of 3D stuff
> like Starbase, but will slow X11 performance.

Mike, as Howard Stroyan pointed out in a previous post . . . it USED TO BE
the case that 3D accelerated graphics devices were slower for X stuff 
than 2D devices.  For example, this was true on the PVRX -- which the
original poster asked about -- and TVRX.

The CRX family of devices (starting with the CRX which was released back
on HP-UX 8.05, I believe) changed all that.  Not only do the CRX devices 
offer industry-leading X performance, but they offer it across the product
line -- including the 3D accelerated devices.  In fact, by some measures,
the CRX-48Z (our newest, fastest 3D device) is also our FASTEST X server
today!

Just trying to set the record straight!

John Brown
Hewlett-Packard
User Interface Technology Division
Fort Collins, CO
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From: dkarr@sierra.com (David Karr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: VUE/RX (sp?) local window manager
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:55:15 GMT
Organization: Sierra Geophysics,  Kirkland WA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

I've noticed some mentions of a product for the 700/RX which is a
locally-executing version of "vuewm".

What is the status of that product?

What does it cost?

Are there any disadvantages to using it?  For instance, are all of the same
options for customization available as in the host-executing version?  Does
it adversely affect the amount of memory available in the 700/RX?

How much of an advantage towards host CPU and host memory usage does it
create?

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From: ca@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de (Claus Assmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP700/92 terminal: how to get 'real' raw mode ?
Date: 3 Jan 1993 14:49:20 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Kiel, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: mine.informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de
Keywords: 700/92,terminal,raw,input

I have a problem with HP700/92 terminals connected to an HP817
(PA-RISC) running HP-UX 8.0.1 (?). I have a little program which
switches the terminal to 'raw' mode to get directly every key (as vi(1)
does).  However, it doesn't work ! I get all keys except those for
cursor control (up,down,left,right,home,clear,insert,delete etc).
Instead the terminal performs the action directly without informing my
program, so my program doesn't work (it has it's own input routine to
control user input according to a specification, eg. field width, input
type etc).  I have tried system("stty raw -echo") and

#include <sgtty.h>
void switchterm(mode)
int mode;
{
 struct sgttyb tty;

 ioctl(0,TIOCGETP,&tty);
 if (mode) tty.sg_flags = (tty.sg_flags | RAW) & ~ECHO;
 else tty.sg_flags = old_flags;
 ioctl(0,TIOCSETP,&tty);
}

Does anybody know how to get full control over the terminal like
vi(1) does ?

Thanks for any help,

Claus
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From: Eggman@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Eggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: AmigaVision Pro Upgrade Question
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:33:50 EDT
Organization: The QuBE BBS

Hello All:
I have not accessed this newsgroup for quite some time, so forgive me if
this message is late (or too early...)
Is there an upgrade path for users of AV to AV Pro?
If so, how much does it cost, do they want the original disks shipped back
etc. and 
is it any different in Canada?
Thanks for your time, please respond directly to me via Email as I log on
only infrequently.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: king@snoc01.enet.dec.com (Randall King, Sydney, Aussieland)
Subject: CDTV & No Manuals Gripe
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:35:58 GMT

In article <JKH.92Dec19024801@whisker.lotus.ie>, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes...
> 
>	interface department.  Beyond that I've added Sim Cit,( which
>	should be in every CD-owners collection IMO) The Fred Fish
>	Collection on CD-ROM, and the "Heroic Age of
>	Spaceflight-Nasa... The 25th Year".  The Fred Fish CD simply
> 
>Well, Ok, I'll freely admit that the Sim City CD is nice (though lack
>of a mouse-type pointer DOES mean that you end up often paging through
>lots of stats screens you don't want - c'mon, admit it!).  I'll admit I'm
>somewhat spoiled by the straight Amiga Sim City interface, but the
>soundtrack definately breathes new life into the game, I'll readily
>agree.
> 

OK. I'll be an honest maverick. Although I love the CDTV for its PD Fish
via PARNET, the lack of documentation is a turnoff for normal people.

Simcity for example. We didnt have the original on floppy, so the ROM is 
all we had. My daughter sat down excited to get into it, turned it on,
and wanted to know some reasonable things like. Whats the objective?
What kind of strategies are there? All she got on the help screens was
hieroglyphic pictures and points on various photographs.  She wandered
around cities pointlessly for a while, and has abandoned it since.
Strike 1.

Then my good lady wanted to random play an audio CD. Wheres the instructions?
On the welcome disk. 10 minutes later she has waded through all the American
voices to find something that on our real CD is the push of a button.
She's not going back and doing anything else fancy again.
Strike 2.

Grolliers. Well, the docs are there online but it takes quite a while to figure
it out.  Anyway, my family got the hang of it, but navigating around is still a
pain. The biggest problem is the content: great for US of A subjects, but it
does nothing for my kids on local subjects - and I'd guess at least 50% of
their queries relate locally. Dont know how you'd get by without the keyboards
- pointing to letters on the screen is pretty unwieldy. My kids still go the
local hardcopy encyclopedia first. Strike 3. 

So makers, please dont abandon the old printed word on CDTV instructions. The
response time on ye olde CDROM's is hardly instantaneous, so in this era of
instant gratification, please don't expect people to hang around long enough
online to figure out how to work something properly. At least with real docs
someone else can help out. How many of you still read computer magazines in
preference to electronic docs? 

So now the CDTV is used exclusively for SCALA EX connection and those wonderful
Public Domain CD-ROMS. But it's worth every cent for that.

So there. Got it off my chest. Am I the only person in the world with this
experience?
From: mikel@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Michael Linton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Scala Multimedia
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:25:50 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

Hi, I was wondering a few things about Scala Multimedia.  First of all, I 
heard a while back on UseNet there was a new version coming out, that had 
direct support for DCTV (i.e. you could edit text, make gradients etc 
with Scala, and then display it all through DCTV).  I currently do this 
using DCTV Paint, Dpaint, and a bunch of other programs, and then piece 
everything together using Amiga Vision, and play it all back.  But, if 
Scala allowed me to do all the text, without having to do it with Dpaint 
first, it would save a step, and also speed things up a lot for me.  If 
anyone could help me out, I'd appreciate it.  Also, how does Scala Multi 
Media, compaire to Scala 500?  I have the Scala 500 demo, and it seems 
like a great program, but if I'm going to get it I might as well get the 
full blown version.  Is there a demo of Scala Multi Media out there 
anywhere, and if so where can I get ahold of it?  Thanks in advance,
 
Mike.
 



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The Draco Unix System [BBS]
From: adavid@jonquille.loria.fr (David Amos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: IFF/8SVX
Date: 30 Dec 92 07:27:44 GMT
Organization: Crin-Inria-Lorraine


Is there any program available for converting an IFF sound to a 8SVX, prefarably
a public domain program.

My problem is in fact that I have DSS that digitalizes sound in IFF and I am using
AmigaVision that doesn't accept IFF sound but 8SVX.

Thanks for your hints.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: king@snoc01.enet.dec.com (Randall King, Sydney, Aussieland)
Subject: Re: C= : Where's the Speech?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:05:43 GMT

>The prosodic model sucks. Coarticulation isn't modelled well,  rate
>dependent phone deletion doesn't happen properly. The synthesiser can't
>speak any language but American English. The source model is probably
>white noise instead of modelled glottal pulses. The text to speech
>algorithm makes frequent errors.  I defy anyone to listen to the Amiga
>read  their mail to them without needing to look at it as well.
> 
>The speech is far from perfect. There are better synthesisers out there,
>and plenty of room for improvement.  Anyone who has heard a human being
>speak should know that the speech can be improved a lot.
> 
>That not withstanding, amiga's speech synthesis is pretty good as
>non-research systems go, and has such an important place in Amiga
>software that it needs to be kept and improved. If a serious effort were
>made to support multiple languages, amiga speech would be a uniquely
>useful product.
> 
>I'm not sure that speeding up the model with a  DSP is the only way of
>improving the speech, however,  - switching to something like
>interpolated demisyllable synthesis instead of the current source/filter
>articulatory  model might help more.
>---
>In any case, rest assured that Marc knows nothing about speech synth,
>but that the Amiga needs it.


I know absolutely nothing technical about speech (a prosodic model could
be a torture instrument or a species of fish for all I know). And I have
to declare an organisational interest too.

But I can tell you that the DECtalk synthesis commercially available from DEC
for the last five years gives realistic speech with inflections and intonations
and few errors. Admittedly it costs more than an Ami, but it definitely aint
stuck in the research labs. 

C= have given it a good shot. You've got to give points for commercial
innovation in 1985, but it just aint in the league when it comes to anything
other than novelty  eg. answering your phone without sounding like a
moron. I can't hear that V2.04 did much really either. Sorry folks.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: Touch screen input?
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:03:25 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

Re article by Eugene Pang, who's playing around with a MicroTouch device
without drivers -- the company's located in Wilmington, Massachusetts, as a
last resort might try calling them......


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: Why I bought a CD-I yesterday and what Commodore needs to do about it.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Organization: Lotus Development Ireland
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:09:22 GMT

	a CDTV, but someone had stated that CD-I were better. He said yes,
	only look at this "Smithsonian" disc. He started it (before he was
	...
	Not any difference to CDTV. Then he proceeded a bit and showed me some
	of the pictures: they looked really BAD! I was surprised, as I had read

I don't get it.  I've got the same title here, and I'm looking at some
of the paintings and other objects with significant color content, and
they look just great!

By comparison, I brought up some of the most colorful NewTek / public
HAM images I could find and there's just no comparison at all.

Technically speaking, HAM gives you ~4K colors.  DYUV gives you close
to 24 bit, but using much the same "tricks" that DCTV uses.  If you want
straight RGB quality, the CD-I will do RGB 5-5-5. (32K colors).

No matter how you slice it, that's more color information, and YES,
some of the titles I have seen make very good use of it.  Peter, ask
your lonely CD-I salesman to show you "Harvest of the Sun". Browse a
good part of the collection before making up your mind.

					Jordan

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From: scott@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: New Amiga Multimedia FTP Site
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:16:01 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>>>>>>>>NOTICE<<<<<<<<<

There is now a new FTP site just for Amiga flavored multimedia.

	I'd like to focus mostly on foreign language training and ESL; but
anything significant will be gladly accepted for review.
	The FTP address is NEXUX.USU.EDU and will be on line by Jan 10, 1993.
Any questions can be directed to me (Scott Hart) at the department of
INstructional Technology at Utah State.