HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: neci@coos.dartmouth.edu (Chris Lasell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: OracleCard vs HyperCard XCMDs?
Summary: Are they compatible?
Keywords: Oracle Card XCMD
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:54:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Hi,'
I'm attempting to help someone who is working with OracleCard, and I have 
little experience with it myself. It appears to be very similar in
its syntax and structure to Hypercard, but does anyone know if HyperCard
XCMDs can be installed into OracleCard stacks?
AND...if they can be....does anyone know of an XCMD that will truely
emulate typing at the keyboard? The *Card "type" command doesnt seem
to send the simulated keystrokes to the system, but holds them within
itself. The reason for wanting this is that we are trying to make OracleCard
activate a QuicKeys sequence from within a script.

Please respond via email, though I will monitor this group for a while
in case responses show up here.
Thanks much!

-Chris Lasell

--
Chris Lasell
User Support Consultant
Reed College, Portland, Oregon
(503) 777-7525
--
Chris Lasell                        __           "Is it nouvelle cuisine when
Macintosh Support Coordinator       \/          3 olives are struggling with a
Reed College, Portland, Oregon                  scallop in a plate of sauce
(503) 777-7525                                  mornay?"       -Zippy
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From: ffdkl@acad3.alaska.edu (Dan LaSota)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: Greater than one line of code to palette buttons
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:59:53 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1



No there isn't a way to have more than one line of code in a palette
'button'.
The solution is to create a handler higher up in the hierarchy.
You said that one in the background was not working for you.
Perhaps it was getting blocked by the same handler at the card level?
Using handlers in the upper levels in the hierarchy works fine for me.
Maybe if you are having trouble with your code you can post it.


Later,
Dan
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 21 Jul 1992 07:12:08 EDT
From: <IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: HyperCard 2.1 Quicktime Help needed.

I am trying to put a Quicktime movie into my stack.  But I don't want
the movie controlers to show at the bottom of the movie window.

I want the movie to come up in a plain "rect" picture window.  No
scroll bars, close window boxes or quicktime controllers.  I want
to show the movie but not allow the stack user to move or manipulate
the window it is in.

thanks for the help if you can offer any,
Mark Leaman
io92668@maine.maine.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: billb@is.rice.edu (William Stenson Blackwell)
Subject: Index won't print
Keywords: It's bonehead again
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:45:47 GMT

Thanks to all those who posted, mailed on my last problem.  It seems I've 
a new one.  I took an index function straight out of "HyperCard Power"
by Carol Kaehler.  I typed it in as stated [I didn't use the soft return though],
and it works.  HOWEVER, I don't get any output on the screen, i.e. my index field
is blank.  For those of you with the book, it's the one on pp.347-350.  For those 
of you who don't, this is the offending script:

      global changed
      put "" into card field "index" of card 1
      put the number of cards into cards
      repeat with cardNum = 2 to cards
        put line 1 of field "Title" of cardNum into line cardNum-1 of card [no return]
field "index" of card 1
      end repeat
      put false into changed

Again, thanks for the help...

-- 

Bill Blackwell             P H P <==me!   "A just request is to be met
billb@owlnet.rice.edu     F L L F       in silence, by the act."
Houston, Texas, USA          8       -Dante Alighieri "Inferno" XXIV ln.77-78
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Subject: Re: Where is "Groupies?"
Keywords: hypercard groupies
Reply-To: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Washington State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:58:49 GMT


In article <1992Jul29.154552.11997@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Eric Johnson) writes:
|>From: ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Eric Johnson)
|>Subject: Where is "Groupies?"
|>Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
|>Lines: 11
|>
|>A couple years ago there was a stack called "groupies" that had a script
|>that allowed you to do all sorts of copying/alignment of buttons/fields/etc
|>in groups.  Where can I get it?
|>Please email or respond here. Thanks, 
|>Eric
|>
|>-- 
|>_______________________________________________________________________________
|>	Eric Johnson	         |  Commit random acts of kindness
|>	ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca |        	and
|>	BITNET:ejohnso@UOFMCC    |        senseless beauty.
|>

the Power Tools stack distributed with the "developer"(?) versionof
Hypercard 2.0 has a SuperGrouper palette that does what you describe.

--
Joshua Yeidel               | yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu
Academic Computing Services | All standard disclaimers apply
Washington State University |   "Believe it if you need it, 
Pullman, WA 99164-1226      |     or leave it if you dare..."
509/335-0441                |         -- Robert Hunter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: by303@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay L. Cross)
Subject: Re: Manipulating VAX files with HyperCard
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:38:10 GMT


Ref. my posting a few days ago about manipulating VAX files
with HyperCard on the Mac, I've received several replies to
date.  Thanks to all who responded.  In summary:
 
Erik Bleifield (ducky@engin.umich.edu) sent a press release
about a product available from ADPA called CommsTalk which
allows developers to create "front ends" to textual computer
systems using HyperCard.  ADPA will send you details.
 
Thomas C. Obrien (tomo@ocf.Berkeley.edu) suggested using
HyperFTP to ftp the file from the VAX to the Mac, alter it,
and ftp it back.
 
Kieran G. McCorry (mccory@belfst.enet.dec.com) suggested look-
ing into PathWorks for Macintosh from DEC. (I've had some
experience with this in the past).
 
Robin Goldstone (RGOLDSTONE@oavax.csuchico.edu) discussed
Oracle.  If my client is using Oracle on their VAX, this may
be a reasonable solution.
 
I will investigate these suggestions further, and will probably
find what I need here somewhere.  Thanks very much for the
help.

-- 
................................................................
Jay Cross                       | "Science is just formalized  |
(by303@Cleveland.FreeNet.Edu)   |  common sense."  A. Einstein |
................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: wayne@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Tony Wayne)
Subject: Is the mic accessed from toolbox?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:32:15 GMT

I thinking of using HyperBasic to write an xcmd for HyperCard.
But before purchasing it I need to know

IS THE MICROPHONE PORT ACCESSED FROM THE TOOLBOX?  

I'm using an LC. 
Thanks in advance
-Tony Wayne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: austinov@leland.stanford.edu (Andrey Ustinov)
Subject: Supercard staff on ftp
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 01:25:09 GMT

Hello,
can someone halp me to get the information on where to find SuperCard staff
on ftp.  There are lots of stacks, and XCMDs, and so on for HyperCard.
What projects, or XCMDs, or SuperTalk tools exist on ftp, or anywhere
online.  I've heard even, there is a game, done in SuperCard "Jeopardy
Hotel", I have checked several game directories, but besides "PaxImperia
Demo" could not find anything done with SuperCard.  Could someone help me
with it?  I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.

Please, e-mail me 24 hrs a day
Andrey.
austinov@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny W. McCampbell)
Subject: Determining Hypercard's Memory Partition
Organization: University of Tennessee
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:46:03 GMT

Hi.  I would like to examine Hypercards set memory partition
so I can see if there is enough available memory for my
stack to work properly.  Could some kind soul tell me how
to do this.

I looked at the Hypertalk Help Stack I had and it said to
use  heapSpace() but I cannot get it to work.

My code is:

get heapSpace()
if it < 500 then ....

Thanks in advance.

Danny McCampbell
danny@utkux1.utk.edu
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From: hhg1@gte.com (Hallett German)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Update to Harry Chesley's Net News Reader?
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:10:40 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA


Is there a version of Harry Chesley's NetNews Reader than 1.2.1? I am 
specifically looking for a version that fixes the problem where
after reconciling news groups, the stack dies 
because the field "full list" (a list of ALL active
newsgroups) has a length greater than 30000 characters. This is
in the script of the OK button which appears on the card "grouplist"

Any help is appreciated.

Hal German (hhg1@bunny.gte.com)
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From: chesley@apple.com (Harry Chesley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Update to Harry Chesley's Net News Reader?
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:15:28 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <18675@bunny.GTE.COM> Hallett German, hhg1@gte.com writes:
>Is there a version of Harry Chesley's NetNews Reader than 1.2.1?

Unfortunately, no, there isn't a later version.

I always intended to do a 2.0 version, which would (1) make use of all of
HyperCard 2.0's nifty new abilities, and (2) have an agent facility which
would filter articles for you in the background. When I switched groups
within Apple from ATG (research) to CSD (product development -- we're
doing OCE), I even got them to say it would be OK to continue work on the
stack in my new position. I didn't figure on the schedule pressures of
product development: that was a year and a half ago, and I haven't had
any time at all to work on 2.0. I've officially given up on the idea now.

Personally, I use Nuntius...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Does HC support publish/subscribe?
From: macferri@husc8.harvard.edu (Kurtis Macferrin)
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:56:37 GMT
Keywords: publish, subscribe

Hi,
	Does HC support publish and subscribe? Thanks for any info!

Kurtis MacFerrin	macferrin@slsvax.harvard.edu
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: XCMD and filename HELP!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:37:12 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul28.111201.21732@nuscc.nus.sg>, taihou@shankar.iss.nus.sg (Tng Tai Hou) writes:
> Unfortunatelly, I run into some coding problems in manipulating
> files. Internally, my code must require both the correct
> vRefNum and a pascal filename:
>
> OSErr ShowTarga (short vRefNum, StringPtr fn, short x, short y);
>
> I really don't understand it at all. The only way I got this to
> work was to follow exactly the following:
>
> 1.  Make sure that my folder or stack is 1 level in the hard disk and
>     not anywhere else, including the desktop.
> 2.  I must write my code such that vRefNum is zer0 for the default volume.
> 3.  Then from HyperCard, I must specify the FULL path:
>     "Volume:MyFolder:MyTargaFile"
>
> Is there a more generic way of writing this? I need both the vRefNum,
> and the filename.

I take it you didn't write the ShowTarga routine. :-)

Apple's recommended way of referring to a file involves specifying three
pieces of information:
	* the volume refnum
	* the parent directory ID
	* the name of the file.

Software that dates from pre-HFS days doesn't know about directory IDs.
For such code, there is a hack involving strange entities called "working
directories". You can find the gory details in the File Manager chapter of
Inside Macintosh Vol IV. Basically you can create a working directory to
represent a directory on a volume, and then pass that WD refnum to code
that expects a volume refnum. Trouble is, there is a limit to the total
number of WDs that can exist at any time, and managing the damn things can
get to be a pain.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
I don't claim to be consistent. Yes I do!
From: clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: QuickTime control
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:54:36 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

>>   I need to be able to jump to specific frames in a QuickTime-film,
>> (e.g. frame 124) but I can't work out how this is done with the
>> Apple XCMDs. (From the QuickTime 1.0 CD). There is of course

> See follow up to "HyperCard 2.1 QuickTime" above. The Pictoid Package
> provides absolute & relative frame & time positioning.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Dr Nigel Perry                    Email: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz

You could also have learned that the Pictoid Package would do 
this by using my Guide-To-XCMDs, available on sumex. -- matt
From: lhccgs@lure.latrobe.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Need "Quit" script
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:13:43 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University - Lincoln School of Health Sciences

In article <1992Jul21.214421.23197@rice.edu>, billb@is.rice.edu (William Stenson Blackwell) writes:
> I need a HyperTalk script that "Quits" without using the file menu.
> I know this is a bonehead question, but I don't have the manual, and
> I need it sometime this week.  This is what I've already tried:
>  
>  
>  on mouseUp
>    do menu "Quit HyperCard"
>  end mouseUp
>  
> and various permutations along that theme.  Help is greatly appreciated!!!
>  
> Thanks in advance....
>  ********************************************************************************
>  * Bill Blackwell         |  Nothing says "get out of my house!" quite like the *
>  * Richardson College     |  <clack> <clack> of a round being chambered.        *
>  * Rice University        |  Nothing says "NOW!" quite like a laser sight on    *
>  * Houston, TX            |  your groin.                                        *
>  * billb@owlnet.rice.edu  |  My opinions are mine, no one else is that stupid.  *
>  ********************************************************************************

I usually change my menus around some, so I developed a DoQuit handler, so that 
you only have to say DoQuit to get it to quit...
It went something like this :-

on DoQuit
put "do menu " into dome
put quote&"quit hypercard"&quote after dome
send dome to hypercard
end DoQuit

Its been a while, but I think thats all of it...
-- 
George Stamatopoulos					#### ###
La Trobe University -					#### ###
	Lincoln School of Health Sciences		#### #####
Computing Unit	ph:2855119				#### ##### incoln
Melbourne	lhccgs@lu.latrobe.edu.au		####
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: cmi@oracle.uucp (Eileen Riley)
Subject: Re: Supercard: Dragging objects in Browse mode
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:39:23 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Try this:

on mouseDown
  put the mouseLoc into theMLoc
  set the loc of cd fld myFld to theMLoc -- this will center the object on the mouseLoc
 -- to move multiple objects along with the first one...
 -- simply figure the offset of the subsequent objects to the 'root' object
 -- i.e., moving a btn with a field:
 put item 2 of theMLoc-10 into xLoc
 set the loc of cd btn secondBtn to (xLoc,item 1 of theMLoc)

-- you get the idea
  
end mouseDown
From: clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: XCMD for finding System Version?
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:50:27 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

> In article <1992Jul27.180335.17740@utkux1.utk.edu> Danny W. McCampbell,
> danny@utkux1.utk.edu writes:
>>Is there an external command or function that someone has
>>written to find out the System Version a user is running 
>>on his/her mac?
>>
>>Danny McCampbell
>>danny@utkux1.utk.edu
> 
> Such an XFCN called findSysVersion() is part of GestaltLook!
> GestaltLook! is a set of HyperCard externals wrapped in a syntax
> dictionary and
> accompanied by a sample stack.
> 
> Contact
> Amadeus Enterprise
> Price $50

Or spend no money; consult THE SYSTEMVERSION (in HyperCard 2.1). 
-- This question would have been answered by using my 
HyperTalk-Help-DA, available at mac.archive.umich.edu. Matt.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Print Field without a dialog?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:05:40 GMT

Hey gang,

  I dunno if this made it the first time... I certainly never saw it on
my newsreader.  Is there a way to Domenu "Print Field..." without a dia-
log box coming up?  Is there some way to pass the desired field as a pa-
rameter?  I tried a few ways but couldn't do it.  Thanks a bunch.

-jg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu (Mark Dichter, MD)
Subject: Re: Apple QT XCMDS and SuperCard 1.6
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:50:04 EDT
Organization: Decision Systems Group/ Harvard Med
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

In article <1992Jul29.010607.5690@trl.oz.au>, loh@shiva.trl.OZ.AU (Roger
Loh) wrote:
> I have recently managed to use the Apple QTMovie XCMD in both HyperCard
> and SuperCard 1.6.  Fine.  However, I cannot seem to get the QTPict XCMD
> working under SuperCard.  It will work with HyperCard and even the
> CompressPict command works with SuperCard but not the DisplayPict
> command.  
> It returns 
> 
> 	Error   :Unable to find the PICT file...[9999]
> 
> What is the reason for this when the full volume path is supplied and
> the CompressPict command works fine with the same file and path?  Is there
> some trick to this XCMD or is it just incompatible with SuperCard :-(
> 
> If anyone has managed to display QT compressed picture files using
> SuperCard or knows of another XCMD which does the job, I would appreciate 
> the information.

The solution to your problem is built into SC 1.6. Just use the script
	on mouseup
	   global vol --volume path contains:   Hard_Disk:Roger:
	   set the picturedata of cd grc 1 to vol & "butterfly" -- this assumes
you have a draw rectangle as cd grc 1
     set the topleft of cd grc 1 to 10,10
  end mouseup

The error in QTPict seem to be the same as was in an early version of
QTMovie, which they fixed.
The programmer had left some HC 2.x specific code or callbacks in. They
fixed this in the 1.0 version.
The real trick with SC is to bring up a single frame of a movie as an
object. I had to write my own
XCMD to bring in the poster frame as a bitmap so I could put overlays on
top of it. The QTMovie
XCMD (version 3/19/92) seems to still have a bug in putting a poster frame
which is not the
first frame into the clipboard.

Mark Dichter, MD
mdichter@hstbme.mit.edu
From: kl2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Keith C. Lantz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HyperCard and Fonts (Q)
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:39:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8ePi2um00WBL03dFVn
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have a question about using fonts with Hypercard.  Specifically why do
fonts with True-type look so much different than without it.  Also, is
True-type public domain, or is it part of the software Apple supplies
with Macs now?  This question arises because I'm working on one machine
with True-type and one with out.  On the machine with out True-type the
text in the fields I put in with the machine with True-type doesn't
completely show up.  Part of the text is hidden, ie the field isn't big
enough, but it was big enough on the mac with True-type.  Any
suggestions, comments, would be greatly apprecited.

Keith C. Lantz
Computer Coordinator/User Consultant
The Heinz School/H&SS Computing
lantz+@cmu.edu
kl2q+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: byrne@cc.gatech.edu (Michael Byrne)
Subject: Re: Field existance query?
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:24:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.194139.27659@nic.umass.edu> s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene) writes:
>Is there any easy way to tell if a field exists without a dialog coming up?

The expression (there is a card field "foo") will evaluate to true if such
a field exists, false otherwise.

============================================================
Mike Byrne                               byrne@cc.gatech.edu
Grad student in Psychology/Cognitive Science
25947 GA Tech Station, Atlanta, GA 30332

----->>>>    "Only the mediocre are always at their best."
From: science@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Zimmermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: HC Find--Technical Question...
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:37:36 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD


my recollection (not authoritative --- others, pls correct errors!) is
that HyperCard's "Find..." command does a sequential search through
the text in the stack, but is aided by "hints" (flags that tell it
whether it can skip looking at a card (or field in a card??) because
that card can't contain the string being sought) ... I think that the
"hints" are bits that are set when the card (field?) is closed, based
on trigraphs (3-letter groups) ... you can experiment with this by
looking for various strings in a big stack (e.g., my recently-posted
to INFO-MAC "Dictionary Stack") and trying to see how slowly results
are found as the search string varies (e.g., compare "these" with
"thesx" search, or "xe" versus "xenon", to see where the speed
increases occur?) ...  I believe that the hint bits are only used for
standard "Find..." searches, not for "find string" searches, so that
could be another variation to experiment with.  ((Or somebody more
authoritative could just tell us, eh?!))

overhead is fairly small (a few hundred bytes per card?) for this
method, and searches are sped up significantly in many cases --- but
it is still sequential scanning, and gets slow linearly with
increasing stack size, in contrast to an inverted-index method....  ^z
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