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From: vnelson@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gerald Vernon Nelson)
Subject: Re: Movies you heard were good but sucked
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:37:53 GMT

#1 on my list:  "Broadcast News"

It was supposed to be a hard hitting drama about a news team.
It was a stupid love triangle story.  Boy loves girl, girl loves 2nd boy.
2nd boy is in love with himself.  They chase each other around for 
an hour and a half.  In the last 15 minutes, they marry 3 totally different
people.  Could have been called "Meat Market Blues".  Same plot but
takes place in butcher shop.

Albert Brook's whiney self examination gets REAL tiring. Can he play
any other characters?

Vern Nelson

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Rocky Horror Picture Show
Reply-To: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:45:42 GMT

I am a MAJOR Rockky Horror Picture Show fan
I used to go to Uptown Theater in Minneapolis Mn every Sat to see the
transvestites. But now I have a sad problem, I moved to Ames, Iowa to Iowa
State University and there are 7 theaters but only 1 shows the CULT
CLASSIC RHPS only a couple times a year :(  ...... I have the American
1990 release of RHPS here but no VCR and I need to see it..... 

Dammit, I knew I should have gotten that spare tire fixed....

LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!

thing... its going on 8 years and still a big hit

Terry Hughes ---- Iowa State University
 
       Home of the Cyclones!!!!
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Movies you heard were good but sucked
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:51:30 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

im sorry but maybe i saw a totally different film.

from what i remember i felt that broadcast news was nothing of any kind
of boy meets girl story.  i thought it was a semi-realistic view of
what the media in the us is like through the lives of three people.

Also i thought it was a movie that tried to discuss the importances
of personal integrity.  holly hunter could have easily gone with
william hurt in the end, but the point was that she believed strongly
in what she did.  if she had there would have been a happy ending.

instead it kind of leaves you hanging - sort of like life.

in terms of the guy who is in love with himself, i don't think william
hurt was in love with himself.  he wanted holly hunter to go away
with him.

maybe im wrong.  but i enjoyed the film.  it seemed to me if
capra did a film today it would have been close to broadcast news.

i know thats high praise, but i liked it.


- stephen
From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:18:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie Posts
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies

In alt.cult-movies, iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:

> 
> Do you suppose that this most embarassing movie tangent is just an
> elaborate cascade?  
	
	I like this question, it brings back such great memories of 
	truely rotten stinkhole of movies I and my demented friends
	used to go to on dollar night.  
	No matter how bad the movie, we still had a great time.  How
	did we do it you ask, well easy, we would make verbal fun of
	the flick as it played, and when you have 15 or more people 
	doing it, then it makes a shitty movie very funny.
	One of the best I remember was CHUD!  Cannaballistic Humaniod
	Underground Dwellers.  God, just thinking of the fun we had at
	that shithole movies expense is making me laugh now.  We would take
	this and other shitty movies, and make the night out a big success
	instead of a loss.  Everyone in the movie house would be laughing
	their asses off and having a good time.
	Of course their where some real losers who have no life that would
	go and bitch to the managers about us having fun, and tried to get
	us thrown out.  Amazing twits, thinking they would even like such 
	crap is still mind boggling to me.  When ever we thought we would 
	be thrown out, the whole group of us would move to a new locatation,
	and the wrong people would get thrown out instead.  HAHAHA  great fun.

	Thanks for the question, it brings back some very good times.

Morty
From: nealg@pokey.sybase.com (Neal Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Brazil, Director's Cut (*SPOILERS*)
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:46:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.215051.5308@crash>, jeff@crash.cts.com (Jeff Makey) writes:
|> I saw what was supposed to be the director's cut, allegedly with an
|> extra 12 minutes of film, but the "assembly line" (good description!)
|> part was the only section I didn't recognize, and that lasted less
|> than a minute.  What else is different?  I want spoilers!!!
|> 

I saw a real Director's Cut of "Brazil" at the Pacific Film Archive a few
months ago. It had the 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning, it also had
different title graphics.

I posted about it back then. I don't have a copy :-(.

It is a different film. It is reorganized, there is much more of the dream
sequence where he is fighting the various monsters. This scene is split up
in the original version, it is one total sequence now.

The film makes much more sense now!

Before the film was shown we were told that this was the first performance
of the new version.

I can't recall alot of it, I'm looking forward to seeing it again.

----------------
Neal E. Goldsmith                                       Sybase, Inc.  
nealg@sybase.com                                        1650 65th Street
What I sez is my opinion and not my employers.          Emeryville, CA  94608
                                                        (510) 596-3338
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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:54:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.225954.795@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.195438.18700@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing) writes:
>> i just watched the 'restored' 22 nosferatu, yes, it's a much better print
>> than the one i'd seen previously, the soundtrack is however absolutely
>> wretched.  horrid horrid horrid. it breaks into jazz  at entirely
>> inappropriate moments. bleah...
>> 
>
>I saw that version too, and you're right, that anachronistic soundtrack
>is annoying.  There was one part that sounded disconcertingly like the
>theme from Bonanza.  The mood of the music didn't match up very well
>with the action either, I thought.
>
>Something that has been bugging me:  In the tape the characters all
>had the familiar Stoker names: Dracula, Harker, Van Helsing, etc.
>I vaguely remember reading a book about old horror movies, and its
>description of the movie mentioned different names for the characters.
>The vampire was called something like "Count Morlock", I believe.
>Were the characters' names altered for the video, was the book wrong,
>or is my memory shot?  I also remember the book mentioning that the
>movie violated Stoker's copyright, hence the altered names.  Maybe
>the names were altered in the versions exhibited in countries where
>the copyright was in force, and the Stoker names used elsewhere?
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca

Actually when Nosferatu was released in 1922, Murnau tried to pull a quick
one.  He changed the names of the characters around to avoid copyright
problems.  Stoker's book was still under copyright.  Thinking he could get
away with it, the name of Count Dracula became Count Orlock, etc.  However,
Stoker's wife managed to get a glimpse of the film and saw how close it
followed her deceased husband's book.  She sued and won.  All copies of
Nosferatu were supposed to be destroyed.  However, a few emerged.  After
she died and the copyright issue was over, the film was finally released in
the US.  I maybe wrong about this, but I think the names were changed back
to the characters in the book, so that the movie would draw fans of the
Lugosi version (It was already into the '30's when it was finally released
in the US).  However, the movie flopped in the US.  I guess we're all lucky
that they managed to smuggle a few copies away for future watch.  I'm not
sure if there is still a copy of the movie with the original names in it,
but if there was I would love to see it.  Anyone know?

			-Casey Hopkins
			hopkins@agora.rain.com
	BTW, thanks to all that responded.  But, I still NEED a copy.
	Please!!!  
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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Top Gun
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:52:24 GMT

In <1992Aug26.163533.19693@sei.cmu.edu> kh@sei.cmu.edu (Kurt Haverstock) writes:

>In article Top Gun of Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:35:14 GMT raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes:

>>Does anyone know the names of the instructors in _Top Gun_. We have been
>>naming our machines after characters, and need to add one to the Net.
>>We Have Ice, Charlie, Goose, and Maveric. 
>>
>How 'bout 'Jester'?

It's MavericK, I think.  Anyway - Hollywood, Wolfman, Slider, Viper,
Couger, Merlin, Sundown, Stinger (no, my memory's not THAT good - after
Viper I had to check the movie :> 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)     "Non Dignis Sum!" - Waynus and Gartus 
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From: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Akira
Reply-To: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:55:59 GMT

Are ther any good Japaneese anamation like Akira on video? I bought 
Clash of the BioNoids (with characters from the robotech I think) but
it was god awful. Also bought a Speed Racer. pretty sad, made me laugh
tho. I want good flicks, preferably in English, but I suppose Ill also
check out some sub-title ones...
Also of any addresses?
I know Heavy Metal mag has some ads for em, but looking for any others

Thanks
From: wehrspannben@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: re:Pig Latin in TS
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:38:52 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

If I had a hammer, There would be no folk singers


Have a cold drink, come on in
Floyd inspects my hairy chin
                            "Floyd the Barber"  NIRVANA

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ~)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft movie
Organization: Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:18:56 GMT

In article <batemanc.715962434@p4.cs.man.ac.uk>, batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris) writes:
|> espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund) inquires:
|> 
|> >I recently snapped up some rumours about a movie based
|> >on H.P.Lovecrafts "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward",
|> >but I have no idea of what the name of it is.
|> >If someone out there has some information, please let me
|> >know.
|> >I would also be glad to hear about other movies inspiered/
|> >based on his works.
|> 
|> To the best of my knowledge there are at least four:
|> 
|> 'Reanimator'
|> 'Reanimator II'
|> 'From Beyond'
|> 'The Unnamable' (truly dreadful)
|> 
|> I also know of a version of 'The Shuttered Room' and (I think) 'The
|> Dunwich Horror' but I forget what those films are called. I'm willing
|> to bet someone can set me straight.
|> 
|> Mad Chris.

-- 
I've read all the other replies to this poor guy's question, and
no one else seems to know.  The movie you are looking for, Espen,
is called "The Resurrected."  You will recognize a lot of the
actors/actress (I don't know their names), and the acting stinks,
but it is, IMHO, THE BEST Lovecraftian film ever made, true to the
story and the genre (not to mention the role-playing game :-).
DO rent this if you can.  It's a modern retelling of "Charles Dexter
Ward," but it still largely retains the flavor of the older setting.

Hope you like it, too!

Maria
--
Maria E. Douglas	(408) 765-4728
Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com

"Are you mental?"

	W. Campbell

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From: jutta@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Jutta Degener)
Subject: Re: Decoder (was: Naked Lunch)
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:22:48 GMT

nix@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Thompson) writes:
> Can you tell me more about "Decoder"?

Not much, actually -- I was hoping that somebody else would help
me with that.  C'mon, I know you're out there!

It is not a movie made from of a Burroughs story, but it has a
short appearance by him, and refers to some of his ideas.  This
is not the queer/exotic Burroughs of "Naked Lunch", but more the
'agents with hidden tape recorders' variety of the "Electronic
Revolution" essay.  

The movie had a dark industrial/punk feeling to it.  I do not
remember much of the story.  The lead characters killed frogs,
recorded their death croaks, scrambled that, merged it with
muzak(*) and exchanged their tape with an actual muzak tape to
.. make peoples heads explode?  Sorry, blackout on that. 
Something gross.  A sound track has been published, but don't
get your hopes up, it doesn't _really_ make peoples heads explode.

The female lead was famous to me, but I have forgotten who exactly
she was.  Christiane F.(**) perhaps?  There may be some more punk
"scene" cameo appearances.  It could have been a german production,
which would explain why you don't know about it.  Still, although I
did not find it to be a coherent or good movie, it was weird enough.
I believe it has been released on videotape, with a frog on the cover.

Jutta

--
(*) Muzak-- the kind of carefully engineered music they play in factories,
      stores, malls, and airports, to set the mood; to keep you awake, or
      to lull you into buying things.

(**) C.F.-- a young junkie prostitute, made famous by her portrait "Wir
      Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo" (we children from Zoo station) in the glossy
      magazine "Stern", which placed junkies into the general awareness in
      germany for the first time.  That story happened long before the movie.  
      I think she became a punk singer later.  U2's 'Zoo TV' still exploits
      the myth she's part of.
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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:59:30 GMT

In <1992Sep12.211917.21292@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>In article <iroderic.716311326@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>>In <1992Sep11.142320.7323@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Sep10.234206.14613@informix.com> davidj@informix.com (David Jennings CONTRACTOR) writes:
>>>>In article <BuCpLM.HHF@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>>>>>
>>

>>><No flames accepted from David Soul fans. Sorry.>
>>
>>>					--Judex--
>>

>>eyes but that's neither here nor there.  Your comments on David Soul
>>are perfectly timed as I'm currently engaged in an off-net
>>"Soul-search".  In the name of kitsch we are trying to track down that
>>single...it was quite a big hit at the time.  The name, or at least
>>main refrain was "Don't give up on us baby."  We've been trying to
>>figure out if it was a cover or a song written for soul... it was
>>*almost* bad enough to have been written by Soul, but not quite bad
>>enough.
>>
>>Ian

>That is indeed the name. Next time I am near my albums, I will see if we still
>have it. Truly horrible. We keep it in a special box, with Bo Donaldson and
>The Heywoods, and the like.
>BTW, you wouldn't have turned up a copy of John Travolta's "Gonna Let Her 
>In" <or whatever his similarly bad hit was called>, have you? 
>I wouldn't mind having that to throw at people at parties, over the
>stereo....heh

>					--Judex--


Ah you bring a luagh to my post-M.A. blues.  I will do the same and
check.  If I don't have it I have a pretty good idea of who will.

Ian
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From: tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,dc.general
Subject: Re: Director's cut of Bladerunner: When?
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:26:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:


>    When in Austin, TX recently I saw a movie bill that indicated that 
>    the director's cut of Bladerunner would be in theaters on September
>    11th, but I can find no independant confirmation, and I've seen 
>    nothing about the new Bladerunner release in the DC area at all.

>    Anyone have any information?  Thanks in advance.

It opens in Chicago on the 11th.  At exactly _one_ theater.  (Loews Fine Arts
Theater)  It's possible that no one in DC is going to show it at all.   

Tom Zych  tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104)
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror...Where?
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:11:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.031604.8488@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.012151.3445@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104) writes:
[Previous maunderings of my deranged imagination deleted]
>>  If anything should be a cult film, it should be one of the recent cool-as
>>-hell-but-still-unsuccessful films that could use a commercial boost, like
>>_Cold Heaven_ (ooooh, I _love_ Ms. Russell in that flattering slip! Yeow!), or
>>_Q & A_, or _Closet Land_, or _The Adventures of Baron Munchausen_, or...
>>or... or... geez, my CPU's gone ape. Anybody else have any recent favorites
>>they'd like to nominate?
>
>		_Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_!!!!!!!
>
  Eeeeeeyeeeeh....
  _R & G_, I thought, was pretty good, but nothing deucedly clever.
  However, Mr. Tame, I do agree with you that it's an excellent choice for 
a cult item. For one thing, you have to be (at least) college-educated and know 
Shakespeare backwards and forwards ("Eb ot ton ro eb ot"? :-)) to get all 
the jokes. For another, it steals a joke from another cult film, _Rock 'n'
Roll High School_.

                                                  Love & kisses,

                                              The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

                                           I regret that I have only one 
                                           life to give for rock and roll!
                                           -- Paul Bartel, _RnRHS_

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: ROCKY
Reply-To: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:02:01 GMT

Opps.... I made quite an error saying 8 years in running... it has only
been 2 for me but I do know about 1975

thanks for the typo clarification
From: tannerr@CS.ORST.EDU (Ryan Tanner)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: HELP!  Need movie title... have description
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:29:08 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept
Originator: tannerr@storm.CS.ORST.EDU

I thought the movie was "Kentucky Fried Movie", but it wasn't.  Though
I was pretty close.  I think it's by the same people.  The one I was
thinking of is the movie where the tv stations have been taken over
by a pirate tv group.  They proceed to have "shows" such as the
Charles Whitman Invitational, which is done just like one of those
hunting shows, but ends up in the tower that Charles used to shoot
46 people at Texas University.  Then they have a "comercial" where
the beautiful woman on the beach proceeds to tell you that this tanning
oil isn't gonna make you look anything like that body builder over there
playing volleyball.  And then there was "Air Nicaragua", where a sleazy
looking waitress tells you about their flight service, but the inside
of the plane looks just like one of those 3rd world buses (chickens 
and dead bodies included!).  So, this movie was a bunch of tv skits
tied together by the pirate tv idea.  It may be a Zucker film.  Help!

Ryan (tannerr@prism.cs.orst.edu)

-- 
Ryan Tanner (tannerr@prism.orst.edu)        Highlander III quote:
                                                   "There can be only FIVE!"

DISCLAIMER:  I don't even know the person!
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: BLADE RUNNER: $$$$$$
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:56:21 PST


According to today's LA Times (9/15/92), the new director's cut of
BLADE RUNNER made more money per screen last weekend than any other
release, including SNEAKERS.  I didn't work out the exact figure (and
don't have the paper with me), but it was something over $650,000 on
only 58 screens--well over $10,000 per screen.  I gather this is
somewhat fantastic in Hollywood terms.  This means that all you folks
who don't have the good fortune to live near one of those 58 screens
(I'm talking to you, Tom) probably have a better chance now of seeing
the film, and hopefully that it will be in the theaters for a good long
run.
As an aside, I've always been under the impression that the eye that fills
the screen at the beginning of the film belongs to Holden, not Deckard.
I justify this by the fact that the shots intercut with the eye bring
us continuously closer to the window Holden is standing at; by the flames
reflected in the eye, which indicate the person is standing in an elevated
building, like Holden (while Deckard is almost always at street level); and
by the fact that when we do cut to the inside of the building, we see 
Holden turning away from the window, as though he has just been looking out
at the flames over the city.  I can't think of anything to support the view
that the eye is Deckard's, unless there's something in the script I don't
know about.  Comments?

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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Lynch - Wenders connection?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:09:24 GMT

I have no basis to assume there is one, other than that both of them seem
to like dance-club scenes with steel-guitar type music. Is this just
a coincidence? Anyone see other similarities?
-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
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From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: Re: Another Dune question
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:47:42 GMT


how funny, i just watched it again on weds(the tv cut) and  i liked it so much
more this time.  of course, i was also playing "spot the future twin peaks
actors" (there are 4) :-> and caught the david lynch cameo that i'd never
noticed for some reason. the sheild has been explained more than adequately,
and the dog is most likely the atreides mascot/ symbol and a rallying point for
the troops. i actually felt kind of sorry for the sardaukar at the end, kept
thinking 'stop shooting at the worms! you're only pissing them off!' :-)
one other thing tho, the copy i've got is narrated by a guy, i'm almost postive
that the first time i watched it on tv, it was narrated by irulan, or is that
the video release? or am i just misremembering it? anybody else seen it with
narration by irulan?

-- 
corey w nelson		|  EGO PROJECT NUMBER II: a goth/som zine
keeper of the Sisters	|  mail me to sign up for the electronic or snailmail  
of Mercy FAQ, DISCOG	|  versions. issue 1 out Aug.2. featuring interviews
and several others...	|  with Andrew Eldritch, Current 93, lotsa goth reviews
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From: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Death
Reply-To: tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:59:20 GMT

Cult Classic:

Death Race 2000

nuff said