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From: cr561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lee Gum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK:  So, what's the big deal?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 21:41:30 GMT
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[damn! how do I get this editor to work!?!]

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

> The prognosis:  I'm underwhelmed.
> So, what's the big deal

I agree with you exactly. I admit the art is good, and the
animation is complex. But, more is not necessarily better.
Often, there were so many objects on screen at once that it was
confusing trying to figure out what was going on. It just got in
the way of what story there was.

As far as characters go... There wasn't a single one that I
could sympathize with.

I haven't seen any other Gundam (other than the side stories of
0080 and 0083), so maybe they were supposed to flesh out the
characters more.

My characterization of Char: He's flashy! He's BAD!
But he's got no "soul!"

I can say the same for the entire OVA.

p.s. "KO-N-TE-I" is supposed to be a pun, right?
     Isn't "KO-N-CHI" more correct though?

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From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Syntax? was Re: MACROSS II SYNOPSIS NEEDED
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:12:16 GMT
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conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:


>Support anime on this country!!  ^_^
>-- 
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Err... Don't you mean "Support anime in this country!!"?  ?:-)

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From: GREENJ@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Gall Force
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 12:31:20 EST

In article <1993Jan5.101023.14694@netcom.com>
jeffl@netcom.com (Jeff Liebgold) writes:
 
>
>
>
>I just finished watching Gall Force: Eternal Story a couple times... GREAT
>story/movie/anime... sad ending (sniff). Now I have a couple questions...
>according to my catalog of LDs at LaserPerceptions, there are two sequels to
>this movie. Are they out subbed? Are they as good? worth watching?
>
 
   Gall Force 2 - Destruction picks up some quantity of years after Eternal
Story.  Not quite as sad as the first one.  Almost uplifting, even.  Gall
Force 3 - Stardust War follows shortly after GF2, and could be considered
even sadder.  IMHO, the two sequels are as good as the first show, but
shorter.  (GF2=45m, GF3=60m)  As far as I know, they haven't been subbed yet,
although scripts are available.
>Also, any speculation as to why the characters reappear at the VERY ending
>milling about earth? Just the animators messing around?
>
   Maybe the animators thought the ending was sad, too, and decided to
give the characters a break at the end.  They certainly deserved it.
>dl
>Dan Liebgold
>liebgold@seas.ucla.edu
   I've heard of other Gall Force series:  Earth Chapter, Rhea Gall Force,
New Century.  Does anyone know what order these go in?  How many disks to
each series?
 
 
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: HELP!  Am I becoming an anime snob??
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:37:35 GMT

In article <1iarkbINN5tg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) writes:
>
>In a previous article, albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) says:
>
>>In article <1iacqsINNq2a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) writes:
>>>
>>>Then some guy is about to make a major purchase, and he has one of the
>>>Silent Mobius CDs on top, and the guy starts giving a movie review!
>>>Now I'm thinking to myself, "What the hell does this guy knows!"
>>
>>Ok, so the guy is a little enthusiastic about anime. ^_^  But did he know
>>what he was talking about?
>>
>He didn't say anything anyone off the street wouldn't know.  I agree,
>this guy was definitely gung-ho about anime, and that's not a crime
>(or we'd all be posting from jail!  :)  but I wish he could do it 
>in a less boisterous and obnoxious way.

Heh, how about saying...
1. "Please....I'm trying to shop here"
2. "yeah...uh huh...right..." {nodding head as if you are listening...keep on
shopping}
3. "Say...I've always been wondering about Rally Cheyenne...you wouldn't
know anything about her background, would you?"

^_^


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From: 7514P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: love triangles in Anime
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:51:00 GMT
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<Love triangles in anime>

     This is probably the single most popular plot device in anime and
manga. I'd be hard pressed to list a popular anime show that *doesn't*
have a love triangle somewhere in the plot. They probably exist but they
aren't among the ones we usually collect over here.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Anime Expo GoH #5 (Silent Mobius Fans Rejoice)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:00:35 GMT

In article <mue6wB13w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy) writes:
>shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa) writes:
>
>- Also, remember, the Anime Expo membership deadline is in one week! (July 15th
> 
>What do you mean by this, the cheaper membership rate (if so, what does 
>it cost after this week?) or the actual membership deadline (in which 
>case you can only get it at the con.....)???  I'm curious...

No, I think Mike is talking about the deadline before ticket prices go up
to the next tier.  After JANUARY 15th, it goes up to $35.  It's currently
$30.



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From: n9282081@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Rob Ketcherside)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: the day rec.arts.anime began
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:18:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan7.201843.28273
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <MS-C.726394791.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> writes:
>The first message to rec.arts.anime was from Ann Schubert at 3:52:32 AM
>Pacific Standard Time on November 14, 1987.
>


=)  Since the dawn of time otakus have gone without rest ("Why should I
sleep when I can watch 20 episodes of Urusei Yatsura in that time?" =)
 
 
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From: debasish@engin.umich.edu (Debasish Mishra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: TEST. IGNORE.
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:35:42 GMT
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This is a test. This is only a test of the emergency Otaku system. Had this
been an actual emergency, this article would have been followed by something
more important than what is actually displayed. (sorry bout bandwidth!)

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: (WS) I saw a live action Misty May the other day...
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:06:37 GMT

In article <tal691.726268087@huxley> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
>Hello folks,
> 
>I was watching old music video just the other day.  One song,
>"Baby It's You", by the brother/sister group Promises, caught my
>eye.  The girl, whilst her face wasn't quite it, had the bounce of
>Misty May!  Migosh!  Put a wig on her!  There's every otaku's
>dream boat.  Her taut shirt, braces like round brackets, her body
>moving to the beat.  Sigh...  What memories.  Last time I heard,
>she fronted (whoops!  Pun unintended!) a Heavy Metal group,
>"Precious Metal" which wasn't all that good. I'm also afraid that
>her body caught up with her bust.  Oh well...
> 
>Anyone disagree with me that she (once was) the personification of
>Misty May?
> 

Only if she had a bunny tail and ears. ^_^

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From: cr561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lee Gum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: MacinToys and MP (was, Re: Monkey Punch confirms)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:47:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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> Personaly, I must admire Monkey Punch for being able to deal
> with MacinToys and still be able to put out his owrk without
> losing his sanity!!! :)
>
> /herb
> ps NeXT Rulz!! :)

OH NO!  Do I smell a computer flame war!?!

Y'know what I find interesting... I was at the university lab
last week... It seems there were plenty of users on the Macs,
PCs, and SPARCs...

But the NeXTs were sitting in a corner--apparently gathering dust
for some time...
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Animeigo (should) release KOR tv series LDs!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:44:04 GMT

In article <43157@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> dbongard@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steerpike) writes:
>In article <1906@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:
>>   Let's put it this way:  if AnimEigo can do over 200 episodes of
>>Urusei Yatsura, then 48 KOR episodes shouldn't be too much to handle!
>>I'd buy the Japanese box set now, except for the laser rot problems!
>
>Hmm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that only the OAV
>laserdiscs suffered from rot -- not the series. 
>

Maybe this should be a FAQ, yo Steve. ^_^  The KOR series discs are good
(though I did have a rotted disc 9, the replacement is fine), the
individual KOR OAV LDs are fine.  It is the CAV sides of the KOR Memory box
, which contains the KOR OAV videos, that are rotting.  Oh yeah only some
of the KOR box sets have the rot problems.

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From: fleggett@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett)
Subject: Re: ATTN:  Craig Judd
Organization: vicstoy: Public Access Unix, Orlando, FL
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:20:03 GMT

In article <-1359216846snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>
>It's the long summer holidays here in Australia now, he most likely
>doesn't have access to his University account.
     <grumble grumble> When will he be back in school (most likely)?

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: The Most Over-Hyped Anime of 1992
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:45:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.014521.3139@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu) writes:
>Macross II, second only to Megazone 23 III in the world of OAVs.
>Now they're planning Macross III... (This is really depressing)

It'll probably be a 13 part 1/2 OAV series too. ^O^
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From: akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK:  So, what's the big deal?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:36:17 GMT


People think Char and Amuro are dead?

Did you see any bodies?  'Nuff said!

By the way, people told me Char was dead at the end of Zeta,
and I didn't believe it then...

-steve

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From: jly33321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John L.Yoon )
Subject: Re: LA comic book con...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:02:15 GMT

dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:

>Oh yea, I knew I forgot to say somthing...I hope this is of interest...
>At the con I saw a guy showing off his drawings to his friends.  One of them
>was a poster size, matted, full color drawing of Lum lying on a white bed with
>her eyes closed(I've seen the original somewhere??  ANyone out there know what
>I'm talking about?).  Anyways, the artist then went on explaining about
<rest of stuff go bye bye>

I'm not gonna make any judgements about the other picture. 
As for the original, given your description, it sounds like a picture from
an old Urusei Yatsura postcard set.  I don't have mine handy at the moment
but there's a pic of Lum lying on a bed in a nightgown.  The whole scene
is fairly dark (ie shadows).  I don't know if this particular postcard set
is still availible (I bought mine about 3-4 years ago) but the whole set
was scanned as gifs a while back. 

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From: parasite@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Leslie Mills)
Subject: Re: Kahm's "pet"?
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:11:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.114012.13505@bsu-ucs> 00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:

>(prvs part deleted)

>I can't help you out there, but I just thought it's funny that there are two
>Johji Manabe works that have the concept of a MALE human "pet" in them....
>
>I didn't know this previously, since I've not read/seen OUTLANDERS, but my
>buddy currently reads the Dark Horse CARAVAN KIDD, so I read them, and noticed
>this...
>
Well, if you read both Outlanders and Caravan Kidd, you'll also notice that
the main female characters are 'beautiful women with swords', a theme that
Johji Manabe is reportedly fond of using.

>Hmmmm
>
>What are some of his other works, and do they also have this concept in them? I
>think I'm beginning to notice a pattern here....

> (.sig deleted)

I can't help you there.  I only read what they can translate.

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From: shimkevi@acs.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK <SPOILERS!>
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:14:21 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


>In a previous article, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) says:

>>P.S.  What *was* that scene with the Feds and the Jions helping Amuro to
>>stop that Axis piece from falling to Earth?  Makes for some nice Fed-Jion
>>cooperation bits, but makes no sense plotwise.  I mean, wasn't the Jion's
>>original plan to drop Axis on Earth?  If so, why prevent it?

I guess that a lot of Jions were against dropping the Axis on Earth, it's
just that nobody wanted to get tossed out of the airlock for saying that
out loud.

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From: megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH...Any orriginal animation? or is it all hacked?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:35:41 GMT
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In article <1993Jan10.132220.62595@cc.usu.edu> sl7sg@cc.usu.edu writes:
>right now, what do those in netland have to say?  Did Macek do *any* orriginal
>work, that was used, in ROBOTECH?

No. The only work done was editing, like removing the second sun from SDC:
Southern Cross... No original animation was done for Robotech.

Of course Robotech II: The Sentinels was all new animation, and Robotech the
movie was a hacked up MegaZone23 with a new ending. (I shall never forgive
him for that...)

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From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK:  So, what's the big deal?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:42:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: seawasp@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu

In article <1993Jan11.134235.4873@spcvxb.spc.edu> 4mckenzie_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>In article <1i8f0iINN45u@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>> 	I also like CCA because it explores the characters of Char and Amuro
>> and brings their struggle to a dramatic conclusion.  The story ended the
>> only way it could end, in mutual death.  (Sorry, Sea Wasp. :-) )

	Don't say sorry -- Kathleen's story "Russian Roulette" takes care of
that little problem. Char and Amuro are back, and better than ever. And
wait 'til you get a load of the FTL suit... Marge and Heather said that
Russian Roulette was the best story they had ever gotten.

	In MY view of the universe, they ain't dead... and their creator, 
Tomino, IS NOT SAYING if they're really dead or not.

>That much is true about Amuro and Char.  Face it--in the middle of a fight in 
>deep space, who the f**k has time to spout this stuff?  Gyunei's death at 
>Amuro's hands is very quick, and you do miss it on the first try.

	They ain't  really talking, though it looks  like it. They're 
having a Newtype Union, which allows the exchange and argument of ideas
and values at a rate of speed close to infinite. They could have jointly
written _War and Peace_ in three seconds while in Union. 

>> Still, like I said, this movie is definitely one of my favorites.
>It's one of mine too.  It's worth watching, definitely. 

	Same here. Lovely animation, beautiful plotline, although it is
in contradiction to what went before. The only explanation we've been
able to come up with as to why Char, who had become a good guy in Zeta,
was suddenly a loonytune dictator from hell in CCA was that when he was
fighting Papsimus Scirocco the mental strain pushed him over the edge.

	One of my other favorite space anime has to be Crusher Joe,
though... not only lovely animation, but the ships obey the laws of physics
when in sublight...


					Sea Wasp