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From:         "Bruce K. Wylie (303) 490 8336" <wylie@GPSRV1.GPSR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      comparing maps

	What ways exit to compare two different map coverages?
I've used r but was wondering what others have used when
comparing two maps.

Regards,

Bruce Wylie
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From:         Wim Koolhoven <WIM@ITC.NL>
Subject:      Re: ! Needing help from ITC/NL

> Hi,
>
>     I need help from somebody at ITC/NL - International Institute for
>
> Aerospacial Survey and Earth Sciences in the Netherlands.
>
>     Does anyone know anybody there or an eletronic address to get in
>
> touch?
>
>     Thanks in anticipation.
>
> Hermani M. Vieira
> Geography Department - UFRJ        igf01001@ufrj.bitnet
> Geo Processing Group - NCE/UFRJ    hermani@ipanema.ufrj.br
>                                    hvieira@nyx.cs.du.edu

ITC in the Netherlands is very simple itc.nl

If you send a message to me, I will forward it to the correct person.

Wim.

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Subject:      Geologic profile software
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>Patrick Kinnicutt                                (617) 428-8367(h)
>chess@athena.mit.edu				 (617) 253-3883(o)
>Department of Civil Engineering
>Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>
>Mailing Address:     /* Any ideas are entirely my own unless otherwise */
>----------------     /* stated.                                        */
>Patrick Kinnicutt
>MIT Branch P.O. Box 233
>Cambridge, MA  02139
I would like to review Nomad. Is it possible to get a copy for the
DECstations?
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: Digital Chart of the World : AVAILABILITY
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May I ask the MAPS-L community an institutional question:

   Our TU library has troubles with American system of paying book and
map orders by check only...
   Usually, all order bills are paid by 'Landesrechnungshof' of Saxonia
government sending a transfer order from one account to the other account
of service firm, book store, software vendor, other university.
   But they will NOT make available checks for an university without any
accounts of a bank...

   At the moment we have such a problem with the UCSB-NCGIA from where we got
some literature sources, but they want check only... What to do ?

   The same problem would arise if we w'd order the release of DCW just only
announced. Who can help? Some explanation of American banking system and
university account system would be of help!

Thanks in advance,
Frank Hoffmann
TU Dresden
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From:         Whit Alexander <whita@MICROSOFT.COM>
Subject:      RE: electronic atlases

See Mandel, Robert, "Global Mapping/Geographical Reference Software for
the Political and Social Sciences" in Social SCiences Computer Review
9:4, Winter 1991.  This gives a very useful overview of most desktop
atlases . . .
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From: jan mersey  <netmail!GEOJAN@VM.UOGUELPH.CA>
To: Multiple recipients of list GIS-L  <GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: electronic atlases
Date: Fri, Sep 4, 1992 9:30AM

I would appreciate receiving any references subscribers may be aware of
to the design and production of electronic atlases; particularly those
run on microcomputers using software such as hypercard.  Thanks!!
Jan Mersey, University of Guelph, Canada.
From: claramunt@elgr.epfl.ch
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Subject: Florida State University contact
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:39:06 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne


I'm researching a contact at the GIS laboratory of the
Florida State University.

Thanks.
 
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|  Christophe Claramunt  Projet Germinal     |
|  Departement de Genie Rural                |
|  Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne  |
|  CH 1015 Lausanne Suisse                   |
|  email: claramunt@elgr.epfl.ch             |
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From: dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu (David Mark)
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Subject: Re: GIS Interfaces
Date: 23 Aug 92 21:55:32 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug21.185350.19265@u.washington.edu> cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes:
>
>
>I stand by my analysis of the NATO ASI in Spain 1990.  What is the
                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^
>meaning of "Cognitive and Linguistic Aspects of Geographic Space" if
 ^^^^^^^^^^
>not to lead to the development of tools that exploit human capabili-
>ties in these domains (cognition and linguistics).  And if linguistic
>interpretation of cognitive activity isn't interface design, then
>what is?

I don't think that "the development of tools" is the sole, or main objective
of academic discourse!  It is a worthy goal, but not the central one.  I
think taht the main point of the meeting (and the main theme of the book)
was to attempt to move toward a better understanding of how people think
about and reason about and understand geographic space.  The main goal was
improved understanding of this aspect of the human mind.  The main goal was
scientific explanation.  (In my __ opinion.)

Of course, almost all work on geographical spatial cognition is of potential 
relevance to the design of computer systems to represent and manipulate 
geographic information, and especially to the design of their user interfaces.  
So perhaps Bob Jacobson, Scott Freundschuh, and John Herring all were 'right'
about the meeting...    :-)

David Mark
dmark@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu
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From:         Edie Rasmussen <EMR1@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Soundex Algorithms

One more (very recent) Soundex reference:

  C.L. Borgman and S.L. Siegfriend, Getty's Synoname and its cousins:
  a survey of applications of personal name-matching algorithms.  Journal
  of the American Society for Information Science 43(7): 459-476 (1992).

is a survey of name-matching programs, including Soundex.  Lots of
good references.

Edie Rasmussen
University of Pittsburgh
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Subject: GIS for Marketing applications
From: morgoth@otago.ac.nz
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:35:50 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Dear GIS News Group Members,

I am a 4 year student going a study in GIS and Geodemgraphics for marketing 
applications.  
If any body has any IDEAS of what I should be looking at or any articles 
or such like they think might be useful then PLEASE drop me a line.  

I would be most interested in hearing what in they have to say.

			Thanks for Reading and any comments

			Mike Speed

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From:         Steve Smyth <stevesmy@MICROSOFT.COM>
Subject:      RE: Soundex Algorithms

Look in Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming, Vol. 1,
(Addison Wesley)

...steve smyth
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From: Derek Winter  <netmail!winter@SOL.SURV.UTAS.EDU.AU>
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Subject: Soundex Algorithms
Date: 28 August 1992 00:06

Hello All,

					I am interested in finding any papers that document the Soundex
algorithm, or similar techniques. Could anyone help me out with some
references?

											thanks in advance,

																				Derek.
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Arc, X, and emulators (was Sun Arc/Info..PC)
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Whilst I sympathise greatly with Rob Smyser (and with Anne's frustrations)
regarding support - and dearly wish that I did not, at times, feel as though
I was dealing with a branch of SUN when seeking assistance from my local
branch of my major GIS supplier (I have DEC and SGI kit ... ) I think that
it is necessary to look at this PC Emulator problem in a more detached manner.

I am not here defending ESRI - or any other GIS vendor - but, folks, there are
now so many different PC clones - each with their own foibles - and different
X Servers for PC's, etc (and we have tested quite a few here to check for
compatibility with the tools we would wish to use them with) that I suggest
that it is UNREALISTIC to expect the PACKAGE vendors to be able to give advice
that is both objective and LEGALLY acceptable.  With your US pre-occupation
with keeping the legal profession well heeled, HOW CAN an outfit like ESRI
(or even IBM!) dare to say "Y's product is OK but Z's does not work" and risk
action from Z because there is some strange, undocumented, configuration of
their product that DOES work (maybe only some of the time ...) and from A,
whose product was not mentioned at all and who feels aggrieved at the lack
of publicity?  Any printed list of 'known' configurations / problems would
be out of date by the time it was printed - let alone distributed!

I wish that there were a legally safe way that we - the user base who HAVE the
experience of both package and kit - could pool our experiences, but the nasty
legal overtones of earlier this year suggest that not even a public discussion
list is safe from the clutches of underworked lawyers.

The *ONLY* solution that I can think of is for interested sites to post a
Request For Experiences - and for each of us with experience to reply
IN CONFIDENCE directly.  Maybe subsequently it might be possible for a set of
such replies to be forwarded to the next RFE ...  The caveat, however, is that
we must ALL accept such replies as being a LOCAL EXPERIENCE ONLY which may
guide us in our choice, but ultimately WE MUST TRY THE THINGS OUT OURSELVES.
If a supplier won't let us try their product out without prior purchase, that
may say something about the product and justify leaving it be ...


Peter Halls
University of York

PJH1@UK.AC.YORK   or t'other way about
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: GIS in eastern europe

Kevin, your project leader (LCT) visited H+C+S last Fall, even a special
seminar took place in eastern Slovakia with visitors from PL+CS+HU. Also, at
GIS-L you can find subscribers from PL+CS+HU...
At Pisa conference (21.-23.9.92) will be special Round table discussions
on GIS in CEE. So am I suggesting you to come to Pisa for contacts etc.
Nevertheless, we here in middle of Europe don't have imagination on the
GIS status in Baltics but I am aware of the Geoprocessing center at Tartu
university for example.
Regards,
Frank Hoffmann, TUD
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From: tjmisek@hou.amoco.com (Thomas Misek)
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Subject: Re: geological crosssection software
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:35:47 GMT
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To Patrick Jones & Jerald Kennedy

GEOLOG is sold by the Mincom company, based in Houston TX.
Their phone number is (713) 497-4600

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Amoco Production Co.  | X.400  ==> mhs!amoco!thomas_j_misek@attmail.com
P.O. Box 3093                 | Phone  ==> (713) 556-3514
Houston, TX 77253        | FAX    ==> (713) 584-7565
From: cogs1@slate.mines.colorado.edu (THOEN WILLIAM )
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Subject: Re: Advice needed:  Irregular survey (T&R) -->Lat Long
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:22:34 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <1992Sep1.165919.18918@ms.uky.edu> bmw@ncc.uky.edu (Brian Whiting) writes:
>I have some x,y info which is currently in paper form and I am 
>thinking of ways to get it into lat-long.  The present xy format
>is Township & Range, but irregularly surveyed.  To further
>complicate the translation process, the notation regarding location
>withing the section is not consistent.  One entry might read
>
>NE 1/4 of NW 1/4 of S3, 1200 ft. from East line and 2000 ft. from N
>line
>
>while another may reference the S and W lines.
>
There are several packages that will do that. Geotech Computer Systems
sells one for the PC called X-Y Converter. Contact Dave at 303-740-9432.
They will also send you a free catalog (especially good if you're into
geological software).  Geographics (also in Denver) sells a nice oil and
gas well database management package that does this, but I don't have their
number handy. Also check with Robert White of Whitestar Corp. (he trolls
thru this message base every once in a while, and you can get his email
address in the last GIS FAQ) He was involved in a unix-based product to do
this at one time, too, I believe.
 
It's a royal pain, I can assure you. (I wrote X-Y Converter). Nothing is
consistent in the USPLS, and even the methods of interpreting a spot from a
relative reference to land grid can be very "creative". It varies from
state to state in some cases.  I heard once that there were 126 different
ways to locate a well relative to the grid in the state of Kansas.
 
But don't worry too much.  Most of the footage calls are pretty
reasonable, and can be handled with a computer... there's always a few 
pathological examples in any large survey, but they are exceptions.
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From:         Eric Fielding <eric@GEOLOGY.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      question on geologic profiles with ARC/INFO
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Speaking of geologic profiles, we have some geologic maps digitized into
ARC/INFO polygon coverages. We would like to create profiles along a given
section line, in a line coverage. It seems like the new Dynamic Segmentation
functions of Arc v. 6.0.1 might help, but I have Read The Fine Manual, and I
can't see how to take the results of INTERSECTing a profile line with a
polygon coverage to plot measured distance along the profile vs. geologic unit.

Any suggestions?

				++Eric Fielding
eric@geology.cornell.edu
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From:         Mike Frith <FRITH@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Arc/Info?

Hi.  With all the talk about Arc/Info and problems, I would like to add
a few of my own.  Who has had problems running 6.0.1 under HPVUE?  I am
a big fan of Arc/Info, but when we "successfully" crashed it 15 times
within a 4 hour span, I get a little frustrated.  If it is not a "bus
error" then it may be a "segmetation fault"  or "floating point exception".
These system notices occur at least once a day, a day being when someone is
working on the system for at least 5 hours.  They are most apt to happen
when moving between modules.  Perhaps I am venting my frustration in the
wrong direction.  I don't know.  Some other goodies are in Arcplot.
Running an aml that creates a map to the screen looks fine.  But when that
same aml is directed to a graphics file, the markersymbol sizes change or
don't show up at all.  But, not all the time,  you just never know when.
The other problem is with the symbol editors.  The "template" area, I
foolishly thought, was to show the template.??? file, so that you could
change your symbol.  But I seem to get the black symbols from plotter.???
(where ??? is mrk, lin, shd, txt).  Is this correct?  How do I access the
template.??? symbolsets?

Thanks,
Mike
frith@uregina1.bitnet
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Subject:      Re: GIS Interfaces
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Bob Jacobson sez:

>I stand by my analysis of the NATO ASI in Spain 1990.  What is the
>meaning of "Cognitive and Linguistic Aspects of Geographic Space" if
>not to lead to the development of tools that exploit human capabili-
>ties in these domains (cognition and linguistics).  And if linguistic
>interpretation of cognitive activity isn't interface design, then
>what is?


Yes, I'd have to agree with Bob when he suggests that the NATO meeting
would lead to the development of tools to exploit human capabilities -
but the meeting was not about the development of these tools - it was
about cognitive and linguistics aspects of space.  At times the
dicussion focused entirely around the development of GIS (both system
and interface) much to the dismay of several attendees.  Certainly,
some of the people who were in attendance seemed interested only in
interfaces (Bob as only one example), and this certainly was not bad -
it was very interesting.  But, that was only one aspect of the meeting.
I certainly don't recall the likes of Pylyshyn, Lakoff, Blades, Head,
Talmy (who were 5 of the seven or eight 'official' lecturers) talking
much about interfaces at the meeting - they spoke more about the cognitive
and linguistic aspects of geographic space (I guess that is why the
title seems to appropriate ;).

I certainly hope the results of that meeting are applicable to more
than just the design of UIs for GIS.

And one last thing.  I must appologize to all of you for my
inapporpriate public remarks to Bob Jacobson in a message a few days
ago.  I should have sent Bob a personal message to convey my thoughts
to him.  I appologize to everyone on GIS-L, and to Bob.

Scott Freundschuh
Memorial University of Newfoundland
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From:         "Eleazer D. Hunt- IRRI" <E.HUNT@CGNET.COM>
Subject:      Arc/Info hardware key problems

Netters,
I have a small, but irritating problem.  We run our gis PCs networked via
DECNET.  Recently, we added the utility of running a parrallel printer off
one of the PCs (and through the arc/info hardware key).  We have added the
printer to the network queue using the LAT function of DECNET.  Once the
network makes the connection and recognizes the printer and puts it on-line,
ARC/INFO does NOT recognize the hardware key!

1- has anyone else had this problem?
2- does anyone have a solution (other then stopping the network to use arcinfo)?
Yes, yes, ESRI should make a key that allows the port to be fully functional.
Have they introduced a new version of the key?

thanks,
E. Hunt
International Rice Research Institute
ehunt@irri.cgnet.com
From: alia@cs.hw.ac.uk (Alia Abdelmoty)
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Subject: SMALLWORLD GIS
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:40:07 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Hi,

I am writing to ask for information about the SMALLWORLD GIS package.

In particular, How Object-Oriented is the package, (Does it sit over an object-oriented DBMS?).

I am interested in hearing about practical experience with the package.

Thanks,
alia@cs.hw.ac.uk
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From:         GEG375U@VAXC.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Neural Nets applied to GIS?
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Try the GI-S Lab at the .-Australian National University; They ar-e. applying
neural network ideas to GIS and RS/IP
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