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From: dickermn@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Dan Dickerman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP9000/834.. is it a 2 user only machine ?
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:58:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

I got this string forwarded to me via mail (never have time to read notes),
and normally we support folks try not to post here, so as not to give the
impression that HP supports people through free channels (god forbid!),
but you guys are so close I can't stand to just sit idly by. Besides,
it's after 5... 

The problem is not in your installed software license: 

> HP-UX acme A.B7.00 U 9000/834 23506101     
                     ^
                     |
                     +--- Unlimited (see uname(2))

But in the machine name, as has been pointed out.  For most systems, the
U is the only thing that is checked, giving the unlimited license. 
For restricted systems (The 600 series servers and the 8X4 series
workstations), you can only buy a 2-User license (period).  When login
checks for how many users to allow, it checks the "9000/834" for this
machine, and restricts the license to two.  This is a slighly stricter
login check than usual: only two unique users are allowed to login over
the lan, or 2 direcly connected terminals/graphics tops, or one of each. 
Of course, to make life more interesting, the 600 series have strange
uname output:

         uname shows   sold as   unrestricted version
             834 	 834          835
             836 	 635          835
             844 	 844          845
             846 	 645          845
             843 	 642          842
             853 	 652          852

Actually, I don't think we ever sold the 642 and 652 servers, but I've 
included them here for completeness, should the numbers ever show up
on somebody's system due to unrecognized hardware.

The point of all this is that if you want a machine that doesn't
have a 2-user restriction, you'll need to get your hardware upgraded 
to the "unrestricted" model in the chart above, which will allow the
license to be configured in software.  Note that the non-2-user machines
above (835 and 845) also have 2 more CIO slots than the restricted ones.

Of course "real hackers" (tm) can get around licensing issues, but that
would be illegal...

--Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: neal@neal.ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Subject: -lPW problems again!
Organization: COMSAT Labs
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:38:18 GMT

OK, I thought I had this think licked.  It says:
      regcmp and regex are kept in /lib/libPW.a.  Unfortunately,
      /lib/libPW.a also contains some functions that have the same names as
      functions contained in the default C library, /lib/libc.a.  To prevent
      unexpected results due to these name conflicts, always search libc
      before searching libPW.  This is done with the ld (or cc) command line
      option sequence -lc -lPW which satisifies all standard C functions
      from libc then searches libPW for the regcmp and regex functions
      (there is also an implied -lc following the explicit -lPW to satisfy
      any additional C functions required by regcmp and regex).

So why do I get this?

/a/flyhalf/images/X11R4/contrib/clients/xmgr-2.07% 	cc main.o xmgr.o events.o malerts.o fileswin.o blockwin.o eblockwin.o printwin.o drawwin.o comwin.o compwin.o setwin.o ptswin.o editpwin.o regionwin.o statuswin.o symwin.o tickwin.o graphwin.o worldwin.o strwin.o labelwin.o locatewin.o framewin.o monwin.o plotone.o stubs.o files.o utils.o drawticks.o fit.o fourier.o io.o graphutils.o graphutils2.o setutils.o setprops.o regionutils.o objutils.o computils.o defaults.o checkon.o params.o getparms.o compute.o




 xvlib.o draw.o ps.o mif.o hp.o chersh.o pars.o WidgetWrap.o motifutils.o -o xmgr  -L/usr/lib/X11R4 -L/usr/lib/Motif1.1 -lXm -lXt -lX11 -lm -lc -lPW
/bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols:
   free (code)
   malloc (code)
   write (code)
From: kuobe@mwk.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Wanted:  HP 11C or 15C
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:14:27 CST
Organization: M. W. Kellogg, Houston TX

Wanted:  HP-11C or HP-15C

I lost my HP and cannot live without it.  If you would like to sell yours
please contact me.  Any offer is appreciated.

Thanks.

Belinda Kuo
kuobe@mwk.uucp

(713) 960-3102   7-4 CST weekdays
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: How to PARTITION a HP disk?
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:32:19 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>partition the 1.3 disk for a root and a seperate filesystem partition.
>but nowhere I can find any reference to that this is possible under HP-UX.

>Is this true? It will mean that I have to buy anouther disk for the system
>and have one gigantic AFS partition on the 1.3 GB disk.....

According to HP, partitioning is supported only on the 800 series.  There's
a rumor that it *might* be in 9.0 for the 700 series.

-- 

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From: dodd@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca (H. Dodd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: disktab entry for a FUJITSU M2652S-512 disk drive
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: dodd@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca
Organization: UVic, Physics & Astronomy, Victoria, BC
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

I am looking for a disktab entry for a FUJITSU M2652S-512 2GB scsi-ii
disk drive, if you have one could you please email to me at
doddh@uvphys.phys.UVic.Ca  

Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good)
Subject: Re: HELP: Problems integrating HP700-Cluster in SUN-Environment
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:28:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.083603.19127@hsr.no> bjarne@hsr.no (Bjarne Steinsbo) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.230451.14563@gdwest.gd.com>, good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good) writes:
>> We also tried to set up a central mail server for our HPs and Suns.  We had
>> some problems (the details of which I don't recall), and came to the 
>> conclusion that the Suns and HPs expect different ownerships and permissions
>> on mail files, and that that was causing the difficulty.  We have since
>> set up two mail servers, one Sun and one HP.  Is this evaluation correct,
>> or is the problem just the aforementioned NFS bug? Has anyone managed to get
>> a Sun to work as a mail server for HPs or vice versa?
>
>We are currently using a Sun3/280 running SunOS 4.1.1 as a mailserver for
>all our Suns and HPs (720s and 730s running 8.07).   Initially we had
>problems with locking-bugs, but they disappeared when we installed the
>"100075-07" patch for Suns on the server.
>
>We have not had any problems with ownership/permissions, but then we only
>let the mailserver deliver new mail to the spool area, the other machines
>aren't even running sendmail.
>

Hmmm.  We're running sendmail on all of our machines.  Maybe that's the
problem.  What are the advantages/disadvantages of not running sendmail?

-- 
David Good                                               good@gdwest.gd.com

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From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Mounting file systems under non-empty directories
Summary: Protection and overmounting
Keywords: mount file system directory
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:37:49 GMT
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <sysdave.712422406@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> sysdave@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David L. Walsh) writes:
>I would like to know what exactly the effects of mounting a file system
>on a non-empty directory.   For example:

An interesting bug is if the non-empty directory has the read
permissions turned off for other users.  If you mount a new file
system at that point that has other access, you are still
restricted to the original access mode, even though ls -alF shows
you have x access to the directory from mounts.  Dunno why...

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
From: rodean@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruce Rodean)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:13:32 GMT
Subject: Re: hp730 and disk quotas
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Ft. Collins, CO.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In article <1709@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk> pearmana@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Andy Pearman) writes:
> We have recently received an HP730 which we are currently setting up.
> 
> Every time someone logs in it insists on doing some kind of
> disk quota checking i.e. we get the message:
> 
> Please wait...checking disk quotas
> 
> Is there any way of disabling this ?

Yes.  Basically you need to make /usr/bin/quota non-executable.  There
are several ways to do this, among them (in increasing order of effect):

   chmod 444 /usr/bin/quota                 # or
   mv /usr/bin/quota /usr/bin/quota.save    # or
   rm /usr/bin/quota

> What is it doing exactly ?
> It's not being done in csh.login so is it a kernel thingy ?

The login command is doing it.  It was added in case an NFS server is
down, since /usr/bin/quota will hang on that until it times out.  This
period of inactivity was very confusing to users who didn't have access
to command source.  The message is annoying to be sure, especially to
those who never intend to have disk quotas.

> 
> Any help will be much appreciated.

Bruce Rodean
rodean@fc.hp.com

This is not an offical response of Hewlett-Packard, and no warrantees
of any kind are made or implied.
From: u1044737@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP9000/834.. is it a 2 user only machine ?
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:55:54 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales


Howdy, we are currently in the process of bringing to life an
Apollo HP9000/834, and cant seem to get more than 2 users
to login at once. Can someone comfirm that the 834 is a 
2 user only machine, or can it be reconfigured to allow
more than 2 users? Output from uname -a is

HP-UX acme A.B7.00 U 9000/834 23506101     

Any information reguarding this machine would be deeply appreciated
It is also difficult for us to keep in contact with this newsgroup
so it would be appreciated if replies could be sent to

herm@merlin.etsu.edu

thanks.

Herman H. Fredriksson
From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Running HP clients on a Sun with OpenWin
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:51:30 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> 1) I am unable to get HP clients (e.g.: hpterm or more importantly
>    HP-VUE itself) to display their output
>    on a Sun running OpenWin (version 2 or 3). If I wait long
>    enough, however, the HP developed client eventually pops up
>    a window on the Sun server, and works as advertised.
>    Long enough is usually more then 10 minutes. Unfortunately,
>    HP-VUE itself never comes up, at least not over a 3 day weekend ;-).
> 
>    Now the clues to this mystery:
>    
>    a) MIT developed x clients running on the HP,
>       for example xterm or xcal, work fine.
> 
>    b) running MIT's Sun X server (either X11R4 or X11R5) 
>       in place of Sun's OpenWin server, the hp clients also
>       come up immediately.

I remember seeing this bug come by on this group a few months ago.  As I
recall, it was a bug in the Sun server which affected Motif based
programs run on HPs.  There was a server fix available.  There was also
a workaround of setting the resource "*colorUse:  False".

Any of those details might be wrong.  I'm just parroting what I read, so
the memory isn't particularly vivid.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: boba@a4430ux.esr.hp.com (Bob Arias)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 12:47:50 GMT
Subject: Re: diskless server advice
Organization: CONRAD, HP Valley Forge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

As of HP-UX 9.0, discless S/400 nodes will only be bootable from a
Series 700 (or 400) server.  Therefore, choose the 750.

Bob Arias
CONRAD Knowledge Engineering
Valley Forge PA USA 
(The usual disclaimers)
From: seymour@milton.u.washington.edu (Richard Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Again, trouble with european HP-UX software support
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:53:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul24.175323.6871
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <28510289@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com> franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC) writes:
...in response to a meandering post of mine... (the following is EDITED!)
>...I don't know if I can really compare apples to apples, but
>from your descriptions I conclude that we have very similar services and
...yes... exactly my point... HP and DEC offer similar services, with
 occasional differences in shading and emphasis.
>DEC					HP
>===					==
>Software Dispatch			Software Status/Release Bulletin
>DSIN					HP SupportLine
>Self Maintenance Binary Distribution	BasicLine (every two months)
>Software Performance Report		Software/Documentation Problem Report
>emergency bugs, local DEC office	(Customer) Response Center
>tracking system				same (TRAK) at Response Center

... i find the above grid very clear and helpful... thanks for posting it!
 (Frank then discussed HP's tracking method re: my comments on them requesting
   a serial number and configuration of my machines... which i and a local HP
    person untangled in two ensuing telephone calls)

i do have one additional comment:  DSIN -does- allow the subscribing customer
 base to learn of, review and download almost ALL extant patches on VMS and
 its layered products.  i do not know how well it serves their Unix base.
  i have seen many postings here bemoaning the lack of all patches on the
  ftp support.hp.com server (and Europe's country-by-country access/lack-of
  thereto).  I was simply trying to compare and contrast, so that users
  could pester their salesforce to improve their (and my!) situation.
--dick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kniveton@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Andy Kniveton)
Subject: HP salespeople on Internet
Organization: Motorola Ltd
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:22:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.193743.9841@spatial.com>, alek@spatial.com (Alek O. Komarnitsky) writes:

|> 
|> BTW, a short while ago, a P.S. in a posting of mine mentioned that HP 
|> really needed to get its salespeople on Internet - I've been telling
|> our rep since he started (over six months ago) that he should do it.
|> Well, 'lo and behold, someone apparently passed on my post to him
|> and/or his boss, and now he has an E-mail address. He says "its great."
|> Although I agree, it's kinda a shame that it took my continual prodding
|> to make a (fairly simple IMHO) thing happen that results in a win-win for
|> both HP and the customers.
|> 
|> Alek Komarnitsky                                      303-449-0649

You should have no problem contacting anyone at HP if you know their HP desk
mail address read the following from Bob Niland :-

For a person whose DESK address is:
  JANE DOE /HP1234/XY

Ignore the subentity (XY) and use the form:

Send them a test message and tell them to make a note of the return address,
as forming internet addresses on DESK is a little more complicated.  If
there is an X.400 system between you and the DESK person, what you get back
may look like a very strange internet address, but it generally works.

Andy.
-- 
  _ _ /|  	Andy Kniveton,	Tel No	+44 793 545349
  \'o.O'  	Motorola Ltd,	Fax No	+44 793 541228
  =(___)= 	16 Euro Way,	E-mail	kniveton@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com
     U    	Blagrove, Swindon, 	uunet!motcid!zeus!kniveton
		England, SN5 8YW.

    "The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the devils' own herd."
			-- Edmund Blackadder II
From: a587700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Frank Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: System Resources Control under HP-UX 8.07
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:02:34 GMT
Organization: The Chinese University of Hong Kong


Dear Netters,

	I am working for an academic computing system project which involves
the application SAS 6.07, SPSS-X 4.0 and Mathematica version 2.0. These 
applications will run on an HP9000/750 application server, while an HP9000/817S
will serve as a file server. For the client part, we have 24 X-Window systems 
(on PCs and Mac.) and other VT100 emulated terminals on our LAN. 

	As you may know, the above application will eat a lot of CPU
time and memory space, generate a lot of disk activities and processes, etc..

	As I think the system resources control should be implemented in order
to fairly distribute the resources to users, may I ask for your
suggestions/comments to tackle the following potential problems. 
	
   1). Maximum CPU time allowed for a single user/process interactively 

   2). Maximum memory usage allowed for a single user/process interactively 

   3). Maximum file size created by user under a file system at any time

  If you think other potential problems may affect our system, please 
kindly let me know as well.
	
    Thanks a lot in advance.

.Frank NG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: alex@opal.idbsu.edu (Alex Feldman)
Subject: LaserROM
Organization: Boise State University Math Dept.
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:45:10

Is there a way to add items to the laserrom database?  I know I can't
write to a CD, but can I link something in somehow, or copy the whole
thing to a disk and use that?

I would like to include man pages and other documentation for non-HP
software we have running on our machines.

Thanks,
--
	--alex			alex@opal.idbsu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: martin@mechanik.uni-duisburg.de (Martin Anantharaman)
Subject: Any plans for PEX on 9000/700s and 700/RX terminals?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:26:04 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni-Duisburg
Keywords: PEX, X-Terminals
Summary: Any plans for PEX on 9000/700s and 700/RX terminals?

As we are about to embark on some 3D-graphics programming on our
9000/720s in connection with the simulation of mechanical systems,
and are not yet commited to any particular API, it would be good
to know whether there are any plans for PEX servers for 9000/700s
and 700/RX X-terminals in the near future. Does anyone have any
information on this? Any chances to get early beta test versions?

--
Martin Anantharaman

FB 7, FG 16 (Mechatronik)	Work:	+49 (203) 379-3336
Universitaet -GH- Duisburg	Home:	+49 (203) 37 65 89
From: glen@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Glen Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Writing a non-disc SCSI device driver for HP 700 (Snake)
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:20:09 GMT
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO

Whoops -
>   HP-UX Driver Development Guide 98577-90013 available for about $70.00
>   from HP Direct 800-538-8787
I just re-read your post and realized you were looking for information on
writing a SCSI device driver.  The manual I referenced above does NOT cover
SCSI (it does cover EISA and VME).

    Glen - R
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: allan@vicorp.com (Allan Krantz)
Subject: cpp and linker problems
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:47:39 GMT




  Since we have upgraded our 720 from 8.05 to 8.07,  we
 have had two new problems compiling some C programs.
 I am curious to know if any one else has had these
 problems and what was done to resolve them.  I have 
 called the tech support people about both.

   The first problem ( ref. #A3031507 ) has to do with the 
 linker.  If we link our program against hp's shared libraries,
 the linker core dumps.  Using the -Wl,-a,archive option to
 use only static libraries, the program links ok.  Well,
 we wanted to use the hp shared graphics libraries.  After
 about four weeks of waiting for help on this from hp, we
 have been told this is our problem and we must pay someone
 to look at it.  I guess it must be our problem, we never
 should have used the linker from hpux 8.07.  Replacing it
 with the linker from the 8.05 system works fine.


   The second problem ( ref. #A3050710 ) is still in the works.
 The preprocessor is giving me "too much defining" messages.
 The cpp from the 8.05 system works fine, the 8.07 one gives
 the problems.  I'm still waiting to see what hp tells me on 
 this one.  

    If you've had these problems let me know and let me know 
 what you did to resolve them.  It seems odd to me that an hp
 "upgrade" would would be worse than what it replaced. 

  allan krantz
  allan@vicorp.com
From: pda@bambi.lptl.jussieu.fr (Pierre DAVID)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Roman 8 -> ISO 8859.1 (was sendmail and 8-bits characters)
Summary: how to tell hpterm to use ISO 8859
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:20:06 GMT
Organization: Universite P. & M. Curie, Paris, FRANCE

In article <67870140@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> arnet@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Arne Thormodsen) writes:
>
> [...]
>  Actually it seems that ISO8859-1 is gradually displacing ROMAN8
>on HP-UX systems in Europe.  We support both ROMAN8 and ISO8859-1 to the
>same degree and for the same languages, so the change is (hopefully)
>transparent for most users.
>

I agree that HP is gradually migrating to ISO 8859, which seems
to me *the* good thing to do. However, let me expose an little
(but irritating) problem while on this subject:

I am using "hpterm" which lets me use a localized (french) keyboard
(46021AF). I can specify an ISO font, but I didn't succeed in
specifying correct keypress -> ISO code mapping. I am using :
    hpterm -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1
If I enter an accented letter, the Roman 8 code is generated and
displayed with an ISO font...

I am sure "hpterm" is able to use the correct mapping since I can
use the [system] menu, then [config keys], then [terminal config]
and un-select [ROMAN8] to get what I am looking for... (no, I don't
want to press 4 keys every time I open a window).

I have tried to use "keyboardLanguage" resources, but without
any success.

FYI, I am experiencing this problem on :
	425T running 8.0 on local console
	720 running 8.05 on a 700/RX

Must I wait for the 9.0 ?

Pierre David
Laboratoire MASI
Universite Paris VI
75252 Paris Cedex 05
France
email : pda@masi.ibp.fr or pda@jussieu.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: Carles Bellver <bellverc@si.uji.es>
Subject: HP PaintJet
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:51:48 GMT
Organization: SERVEI D'INFORMATICA - UNIVERSITAT JAUME I

Does anybody know how to get a PaintJet driver for the Apple Macintosh?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Convert dynamic dependencies to static?
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:09:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In comp.sys.hp, pjs@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Peter J. Scott) writes:

> Anyone know of a program that takes an executable that
> depends on shared libraries and from it creates the same
> application, but linked to the static libraries instead?
> So that then the application can travel anywhere and
> feel at home?

No, such a program would be difficult if not impossible to write, since there
would be no place to put the code from the archive ("static") libraries.  The
text and data segments are full as it is.

--------------
Marc Sabatella (marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com)
Disclaimers:
	2 + 2 = 3, for suitably small values of 2
	Bill (H.) and Dave (P.) may not always agree with me
From: lundeby@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Bruce Lundeby)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:07:52 GMT
Subject: Re: moving tar file on DAT (4mm) tape between HP and SGI???
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.