HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rankin@EQL.CALTECH.EDU (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Gawk:  Like Ghostscript?
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:13:48 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> Is GAWK (GNU AWK) similar to GHOSTSCRIPT?  A description I saw for it was
> "text processing language".

     GAWK is an implementation of the awk programming language, which is
oriented towards text processing but not limited to that.  GHOSTSCRIPT
is a PostScript (tm) interpretor; PostScript is also a text processing
language--not a file format--ordinarily implemented inside a printer's
hardware.  awk and PostScript are not even remotely related to each other.

                Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: MAIL$INIT Logical name doesn't work.
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:16:10 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> > MAIL allows only DEFINE/KEY commands in the MAIL$INIT file.
> 
> Well then, is it possible to permanently SET TRANSPORT ? It is rather annoying
> to do each time after entering MAIL...

I think SET TRANSPORT is permanent !

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: rance@vivian.enet.dec.com (Stuart Rance)
Subject: Re: assigning lta device numbers
Reply-To: rance@vivian.enet.dec.com (Stuart Rance)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:13:39 GMT


Instead of allocating the port numbers yourself it would be much better to

$ MC LATCP CREATE PORT /LOGICAL=(TABLE=SYSTEM,MODE=EXEC,NAME=portname)
And then to start your queue on port NODE::'portname'

This works on any version of VMS with the "LATplus" software installed.
--
 ***************************************************
 * Stuart Rance       rance@vivian.enet.dec.com    *
 *                    stuart.rance@hhl.mts.dec.com *
 ***************************************************
From: pan@prowest.propress.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Why is demand-zero compression for shareable images unsupported?
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:56:32 GMT
Organization: Professional Press, West Coast Offices, Pasadena, CA

In article <SNYDER.92Oct1023600@d0sb10.fnal.gov>, SNYDER@d0sb10.fnal.gov writes:
> Hi -
>
> I've discovered that the VMS linker (at least in versions 5.4 and 5.5)
> will not perform demand-zero compression when building a shareable image
> unless you use the undocumented link option `unsupported=1'.
[stuff deleted]
> So, what I'd be interested in knowing is:
>
>   - What exactly was the imgact bug which caused this whole mess?
>
>   - Has it been fixed?
>     If so, why is this feature still disabled?
>     If not, what nasty things will happen to me if I persist
>     in trying to use it?
>
>
> Thanks,
> scott snyder
> snyder@d0sb10.fnal.gov
--

I had a discussion with Larry Kenah about this issue.  It was at least five
years ago.

As I recall, there was a bug in the image activator, but that was fixed (or
would soon be at the time we talked). The more global problem was that there
was some sort of interaction between shareable images with DZERO sections and
some of the language RTLs.  I don't recall the specifics, but I think the
problem had something to do with the order in which the image activator did
it's work, and that they were not sure they had all the corner cases handled.

He did say this: "The solution to this problem, from your point of view, will
have to do with the spelling of the word 'unsupported'."  That is, there was no
other change expected except that UNSUPPORTED=1 would become DZERO=1 or
somesuch.

I have successfully used that option since before that discussion, and have
never been bitten.  I think it is pretty safe.

P

_________________________________________________________________________
Philip A. Naecker                Consulting Software Engineer
Internet: pan@propress.com       1010 East Union Street, Suite 101
          uunet!prowest!pan      Pasadena, CA  91106-1756
Voice:    +1 818 577 4820        FAX: +1 818 577 0073

Also:     Technology Editor, DEC Professional Magazine
          VAX Professional Magazine Review Board Member
_________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: beezer@cc.utah.edu (BEEZER)
Subject: [REQUEST]:  WHERE/HOW ON Y/ZMODEM
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Salt Lick, UT
Date:  5 Oct 1992 02:27 MST  

_____________________________________________________________________

- Where can I FTP both ymodem and zmodem executibles?

- How do I install into my 'user' account?

- What are a few syntax examples of running the two programs?

* Currently stuck/dieing with Kermit (too slow).
_____________________________________________________________________


Most appreciated -- Andy.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: Looking for CAI/tutorial program
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:15:32 GMT

Posted this to vmsnet.sources.d a week or two ago, but got no
responses...

Has anybody out there in NetLand found or developed a good (not
necessarily fancy) text-based CAI/tutorial/drill program for VMS?

-- 
Kimberly B. Churchwell, Prog./Analyst, Okla. State U.  | TANSTAAFL, but
Osteopathic College--churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu   | even so, I never
BIX--kchurchwell  AOL--KChurchwel  CIS--72170,1552     | quit hoping.
From: wipke@moldes.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: vms posix
Date: 5 OCT 92 16:02:40 PDT
Organization: UCSC Molecular Engineering Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: moldes.ucsc.edu

I am interested in people's opinions about vms posix.  We are developing
C programs that will run in Ultrix and VMS environments interchangeably.
It looks like we have to give up indexed-sequential files which we used
on vms.  I would like to hear the good and "other" comments about vms
posix and your experience using it, or attempts thereof.

Thanks

Todd Wipke
wipke@secs.ucsc.edu
University of California
Santa Cruz
From: rankin@EQL.CALTECH.EDU (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMS Finger
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:47:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

[ "plan" file containing animation won't work when accessed from VMS ]
> Is this because of a 'brain-dead' finger implementation,
> or is it in the term driver?

     Neither.  It's an intentional security precaution to prevent the
escape sequences in your file from doing naughty things to the terminal.
Non-printable characters will either be changed to "."  or omitted
altogether, leaving the rest to "spew all over the term" since they no
longer function to position the cursor, toggle line drawing mode, etc.

		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Help with VMS MAIL
From: solomon@pa621a.inland.com (Paul J. Solomon)
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:01:58 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: solomon

Is there any way to consolidate all my MAIL*.MAI files into one
MAIL.MAI file.  The COMPRESS command within VMS MAIL seems to only
work on one file at a time.  Any help would be appreciated.

-paul.
-- 
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| Paul J. Solomon            |  "Consequences, Schmonsequences...    |
| solomon@pa881a.inland.com  |       as long as I'm RICH!!!"         |
| Inland Steel Co.           |             -Daffy Duck               |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SEEKING USEFUL EDIT/TPU PROCEDURES
From: trounson@wronz.org.nz
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:31:50 +1200

In article <BvALMn.G3o@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ritley@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu () writes:
> 
> Many people have recommended that I learn EDIT/TPU, rather than
> continue using EDT --- many thanks to all who responded to my
> recent question regarding these editors.
> 
> I have recently begun learning EDIT/TPU ("EVE"), and it would be nice
> to obtain some useful procedures written to customoize this editor,
> in order to see what can be done with this editor, and also
> to serve as examples in learning TPU.
> 
> Might anyone know of any procedures which are 
> available in the public domiain, or might anyone be willing to share
> useful procedures they have writeten?
> 
> Many thanks!

As a first step I suggest you have a look at the tpu procedures in sys$examples.
These are the procedures which built the eve editor supplied with VMS.

As far as customisation is concerned, I'd recommend getting hold of TPUPlus
which is written by Rickey Stacks of Arkansas Dept of Pollution Control and
Ecology. The version we are running is from one of the DECUS 1990 Sig tapes.
(There may be a later version available.)

I've looked at other editor enhancements written by others (available from DECUS
tapes), but this one suits our site best. It also comes with a detailed manual.
We've added the odd extra thing to it and redefined keys for our site, etc, but
thats relatively easy.

Good luck

Mary Trounson                    Internet:  TROUNSON@WRONZ.ORG.NZ
Computer Systems Officer         PSI:  (05301)30000047::TROUNSON
Wool Research Organisation
Christchurch                    Telephone:  (+64) (+3) 325 2421
New Zealand                           Fax:  (+64) (+3) 325 2717
From: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de ("GWDGV1::MOELLER")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: DCL says 1 = 0 (puzzle solved)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:10:32 GMT
Organization: The Internet

The puzzle was:
> --- file XX.COM ---
> $ ???			[mystery line here]
> $ show symbol 1
> -------------------
>
> $ @XX.COM
>   1 = 0   Hex = 00000000  Octal = 00000000000

The first solution (in postmark order) came from Don Stokes
<don@toyunix.zl2tnm.gen.nz>:

   $ z = f$context("PROCESS",1,"USERNAME","NOONE","EQL") + f$pid(1)

My own solution was re-discovered about 10 hours later by
Arne Vajhxj <ARNE@KOPC.HHS.DK>:

   $ loop: if f$pid(1) .nes. "" then goto loop

who also noted that f$csid() can be used here instead of f$pid().

The second solution has the obvious advantage that it does work
on VMS V4.7 (and probably also on 3.x - f$pid() was introduced in 3.0).

Wolfgang J. Moeller, GWDG, D-3400 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer ...
PSI%(0262)45050352008::MOELLER      Phone: +49 551 201516 | No claim intended!
Internet: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de   | This space intentionally left blank.

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Utility to delete 0 block file
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:11:07 GMT

In article <hansg.718213602@risken>, hansg@risken.vd.volvo.se (Hans Granqvist) writes...
=ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes:

=>> > I am looking for a file utility that deletes 0 block file. Is such a utility
=>> > available?
=>> 
=>> Don't know of a utility, but a RENAME of that file to another will cause
=>> RMS to "lose the file", i.e., it will be deleted.

=>????
=>A little experiment showed, that it do NOT on my system (VMS V5.5-1) !
=>AND I find it hard to believe, that RENAME will do this on any VMS
=>version !

=It most certainly will if we all talk about the same sort of files. What
=I naturally thought was the case of file being discussed was the ones looking
=like FILE.TYPE in this normal DIR:

=A normal file of size 0/0 poses no big problem, but the file of type
=FILE.TYPE in the example above is tougher. It cannot be DELETEd as RMS
=will not see it (it does not exist). Nor can it be copied or edited. But
=a RENAME will cause RMS to actually lose the file, i.e., it humbly
=informs you that your file has been lost whilst doing the rename. 

Actually RMS doesn't lose the file, there is no file to lose.  As you mentioned
the file does not exist.  It is already gone.  There is a directory entry for a
nonexistant file, however.  If you try to rename it, the file is first removed
from under the old name then attempted to be entered it under the new name. 
The enter fails however, as there is no such file, and the result is a bogus
directory entry is removed.

-Mike
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VAX C - missing strftime???
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:14:01 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> I find this hard to believe, but me and my linker are unable to
> locate the ANSI C library routine strftime().  It does exist,
> doesn't it?

Here at VMS 5.5 strftime is in SYS$LIBRARY:VAXCRTL.OLB, but not in
SYS$SHARE:VAXCRTL.EXE  !

So you could try link with the object-library instead.

I do not know why it is not in the shareable image ! Does anyone know why ?

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: donham@dbldog.enet.dec.com (Perry Donham)
Subject: Re: VAXstation: 3.5" floppy won't format
Reply-To: donham@super.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Education/Training
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:15:11 GMT



In article <1992Oct5.132840.43590@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
writes:
|>I bought a 3M 3.5" floppy DS/DD (1 mbyte) and tried to init it on a
|>VAXstation
|>3100/40. No matter what I try I keep getting the message
|>
|>%INIT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
|>
|>Ideas? Thanks!
|>

The RX drive on a 3100 will only handle high-density disks. I believe that you
can still read 700K disks.

Perry Donham
Digital Education
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,alt.binaries.pictures.utilities
Subject: Re: GIF to HPGL converter
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:33:56 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Sep28.164428@ulci20.unil.ch>, dhenchoz@ulci20.unil.ch (Daniel HENCHOZ) writes:
> 
> I'm looking for a GIF to HPGL converter runnning on VAX/VMS ?

Since GIF is a raster format, and HPGL is vector, what you're asking for
doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.  Vector to raster is fine, but it's really
hard for pen plotters to put down individual pixels onto paper without doing
serious damage to the pens.

-- 

Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
From: bjorndahl@augustana.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: problem with vms PHONE utility?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:29:41 MDT
Organization: Augustana University College, Camrose, aAlberta

Is there a bug in the VMS PHONE utility for VMS 5.4-2?  It simply does not
work unless one phones oneself.  Trying to use it between two different
processes results in a "Transmission error - retrying" message.  No one has
fiddled with it in any way - this is straight out of the box.

Any ideas?

If you followup I would appreciate an e-mailed copy too since our news feed
is rather flakey - I know that there are some things I have missed.

-- 
Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA or bjorndahl@camrose.uucp
Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada      (403) 679-1516
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: edbis@solomon.technet.sg (Koh Eng San)
Subject: DCL to check for identifier
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:17:12 GMT

Hi there,

I am writing a DCL program to check if a user has a certain identifer. I have
checked the lexical function F$PRIVILEGE and it doesn't seem to be able to
check for the existence of ACL identifier.

Cheers.
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: help with vms lexicals
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:33:33 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Sep28.043937.12230@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Sahir.Siddiqui@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Sahir Siddiqui) writes:
>	I don't know exactly how to explain this, but here
>goes.  When I do a finger at my node, i get a listing
>of users, with their locations - terminal server ports, lat
>ports, etc...
>	What I need is to determine the location of a given
>user, in a program - preferably in DCL.  I was wondering if
>there was a lexical to do this for me.  I would appreciate
>someone pointing me in the right direction.

Well, it's not really clear which part you're having trouble with, so instead
of a pointer, here's a program:

$	if p1 .eqs. "" then read/prompt="User: " sys$command p1
$	ctx :=
$	itms = 0
$ loop:	pid = f$pid(ctx)
$	if pid .eqs. "" then goto done
$	user = f$edit(f$getjip(pid,"USERNAME"),"TRIM")
$	if user .nes. p1 then goto loop
$	term = f$getjpi(pid,"TERMINAL")
$	if term .eqs. "" then goto loop
$	itms = 1
$	port = f$getdvi(term,"TT_ACCPORNAM")
$	write sys$output f$fao("!AS!_!AS!_!AS!_!AS", user, pid, term, port)
$	goto loop
$ done:	if itms .eq. 0 then write sys$output P1, " not logged in interactively"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: spinillo@MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How much to charge for CPU time?
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:08:43 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Can anyone help me determine a monetary figure to charge for CPU time?
We have never had to do this, but we need to determine a pro-rated figure
for some documentation. We are running a VAX8250 with 2 ra82 disks.

please send replies to my personal mailbox.

thanks in advance




Anthony Spinillo - Tech Services
Marywood College   717 348 6215
Scranton, PA 19509
spinillo@marywood1.marywood.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sysmgt,vmsnet.misc
From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: Re: Please don't post system management questions to vmsnet.admin
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:39:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

terry, it seems your sycophants have voted you emperor of vmsnet
again, so i guess my comments were out of line.  i sure hope you have
a successor picked, we can't have these guys wandering aimlessly
around the net looking for a new net.god.

-- 
--- bob pasker
---- rbp@netcom.com
From: sharone@shar.zko.dec.com (Sharon Eikenberry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: soft-tool, menu interface for CMS, MMS
Keywords: development software
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:54:17 GMT
Reply-To: sharone@shar.zko.dec.com (Sharon Eikenberry)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


CMS has a DecWindows interface supplied with the product.  


--Sharon Eikenberry			! eikenberry@tle.enet.dec.com
  LSE Developer
  Digital Equipment Corporation
  
  Opinions are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.networks.misc
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: Help: Renaming DECnet-Environment 
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.120615.3143@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>, wienhoef@scoop.ims.uni-hannover.de (Wolf Wienhoefer) writes:
> 
...
> 
> Is there anyone who has solved a problem like ours and can tell me
> which is the best proceeding to avoid serious difficulties ??
> 
step 0. Tap someone one the shoulder and appoint them 'name adminsitrator'
Step 1. find the name clashes and set a changover date for the 'victim' nodes
	that will be re-named. Tell EVERYONE about it as soon as possible.
	Distribute the changes well in advance.
Step 3. Go through all your .com files, proxy files etc and find all the changes
	you need for the re-name.
Step 4. Do it. Wait for the screeming to die down, and the system to settle.
Step 6. set up any area routers needed, reassign adresses, assigh a 'reserved'
	set of addresses for new systems to stick their head up for a few
	minutes as grab a copy of the network data-bases. A couple of nodes
	shold be nominated as 'master' keepers of the names/addresses. This can
	make the name-admin life easier, as a system admin can create a new name
	address entry and mail the name admin obout it. He/she them only need
	get involved if there are problems or conflicts to be resolved.
Step 7. Set the new addresses in the systems and re-boot or wait for them to
	fall over. Clusters probably should be taken down and re-booted all
	together.
Step 8. Ring your favorite travel agent... :-)

If the name change goes well, the partitioning and re-adressing should not be 
noticed by the users. Look three times, think twice, do it once...

~Paul
From: CC_S441@TETHYS.KING.AC.UK ("John Salmon [Computing Services]")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Evaluation
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:45:16 GMT
Organization: The Internet
From: cc_s441@titan.kingston.ac.uk
Newsgroups: infovax
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Evaluation
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:45:09 BST
Organization: Kingston University

In article <1992Sep29.142600.37349@titan.kingston.ac.uk>, cc_s523@titan.kingston.ac.uk writes:
> We are currently using CMUTEK TCP/IP (version 6.6-5) on some of our
> Vaxes, which are all running VMS 4.4-2

This should read VMS 5.4-2  !

> 
> Our current computing trends indicate that a lot more importance will
> be attached to TCP/IP in the future than it is at present.
> 
> As a result, I am going to evaluate other TCP/IP software, either PD
> or sensibly priced commercial alternatives.
> 
> I would be grateful to hear from anyone who might be able to advise or
> recommend other implications.
> 
> Systems Manager
 
Dave Luing
Kingston University Computing Services
(cc_s523@kingston.ac.uk)

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: Re: Wildcard filename as arg. to DCL-script?
Reply-To: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:56:47 GMT

In article <6214@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, mzagsaa@v4.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Tony Arnold) writes:
>
>Here is a simple command procedure that prints out the files matched by a given
>wild card paramter:
>
>	$ next:
>	$	fil=f$search(p1)
>	$	if fil .eqs. "" then goto done
>	$	write sys$output fil
>	$	goto next
>	$ done:
>	$	exit
>
>Look at HELP LEX F$SEARCH for more information. There is also f$PARSE for
>doing magic things with file names. You might find F$ELEMENT useful for
>splitting lists of files separated by commas.
>
>Tony Arnold.

You need a bit more code here; try this out when P1 is a filespec that
doesn't have wild cards in it and you'll see what I mean!

Steve

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