HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: garrick@kpc.com (Garrick Le)
Subject: [MISC/POL] Re: Doing business in VN
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:02:39 GMT


quangl@tabasco.sps.mot.com (Quang Le) wrote
>I just read in Vietnamese magazine that a American company name Viet-Hoa
>(the name reveals ethnic of its owners) sent people going around Mekong
>delta to gather high quality rices (ga.o tho*m, na`ng hu*o*ng, na`ng tho*m...)
>to import to the U.S. This is possible after the partial lift of trade embargo
>a few months ago in basic human-need goods like food, medicine, v.v...
>At the end of the year, we will see ga.o na`ng hu*o*ng Vie^.t nam selling
>in supermarkets from Little Saigon to San Jose, Houston. Well, those rices
>will be sold as well as "to^m tu*o*i", won't them?

I have a different opinion here,I do not think the above-mentioned kind of
rice is as good as the one available overhere,at least according to recent
immigrants whom I know.They (Viet_Hoa) probably still make money since they
can buy these rices at much lower price in VN.

>
>It will be interesting if someone who loudly opposed embargo then tried to
>eat those rices.

I dunno what you meant,since your logic is rather illogical :-)it should
be hypocritical if those who vehemently oppose lifting the embargo but
subsequently purchase those rices imported from VN. As for the ones who
oppose the sanction,if they do buy products imported from VN,it is an
act in accord with their principle.
>
>Companies, like Viet-Hoa, don't care a damn in Vietnamese politics here.
>They don't have time to read scv either. :-) They know that next to
>the law of America the law of money will govern everything (Or they
>should be swapped. I am not sure :-).
This is true,for these people/companies,money and profit are their paramount
motive,as most of them have little regard for other matters.Their business
dealings undoubtedly prolong the survival of the current regime in VN,as a
result, VN government will be under less pressure to enact truly democratic
reform.The recent election is a good indicator of how "democratic" the regime
has become.
As far as foreign companies are concerned,they can care less (much less )
it is us Vietnamese who are affected a great deal more.If we don't look out
for ourselves,who would?

>Tha^n,
>Quang Le

Regards;

Garrick (Quang) Le

Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are mine.
From: lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: va`i va^`n.....tha^?n tho*
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:18:36 GMT
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA



	  Ngu*o*`i o*i ! ngu*o*`i bie^'t hay kho^ng nhi?....!?
	  No^~i nho*' da^ng le^n mo^~i mo^.t nhie^`u....
		  Ngu*o*`i kho^ng be^n ca.nh , sao to^i to?....
		  To? no^~i lo`ng to^i :..."to^i nho*'....ngu*o*`i".
				     
                                           B.M
From: giao@informix.com (Giao Tien Vu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [POL] Re: Doing business in Vietnam
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:10:35 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Jul24.175104.17797@news.media.mit.edu> Cuong_M._Nguyen.OSBU_North@xerox.com writes:
>
>
>From:	mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca (Minhtri Truong)
>>Giao Tien Vu writes:
>>> But I'm one of those people who believe that the USA should not put
>>>sanctions on South Africa (same reason: the sanction would hurt the people
>>> who need jobs - the poor).  Oh well...
>>>
>>> Giao
>>
>>          To get you more confused, I think Mandela said that blacks
>>in South Africa want the sanctions maintained.
>
>Yes, Nelson used the sanction to level the minority-White's power. If my memory
>is correct I remember not long ago he mentioned that sanction got to be
>maintained in order to have real changes in South Africa. At that time many
>countries were ready to lift the sanction.
>
>The sanction worked so well in South Africa.
>

And the politics of South Africa is still very messed up.  The people in
townships are killing each other.  Some people in the ANC were accused of
abusing blacks.  The discussions between the South African government and
the ANC came to an impasse, because ANC wanted more and the whites did not
want give much more than they could afford (as of last month, I have been
too busy to read news lately) (*).

Giao

PS: (*) From the postings so far, I might sound like an anti-ANC person.
	Not true, I'm just skeptical (and maybe cynical).  What I'm afraid
	of is that an ANC-ruled South Africa would have racist policies
	toward the whites (old grudges would not go away).  I cannot
	support a policy that might bring a racist government in place of
	an apartheid government (just as I could not support an apartheid
	government).  Mr. Mandela is a good man in my point-of-view, but he
	is not the entire ANC.  Gee, I sound too much like an editorial
	in Forbes ;-).
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: CFV: alt.us.visas
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:41:35 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

How about creating a group called alt.us.visas.  By the addition of this 
group we could help folks mostly interested in visa information from any 
country to get that information easily.  A FAQ will also be helpful. 
This will moderate many of the soc groups. 


**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
From: CNguyen.osbu_north@xerox.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Spratly Islands
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:45:21 GMT
Reply-To: Cuong_M._Nguyen.OSBU_North@xerox.com
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


From:	v-nguyen@cis.ohio-state.edu (Viet-Anh V Nguyen)
In article <1992Jul27.193904.20421@news.media.mit.edu> nguyen@airmics.gatech.
edu (Son Nguyen) wrote:
>>Vietnam nowadays is even weaker since the fall of the Soviet Union.
>>China did give Vietnam a lesson (around 1979, I believe).  That was a
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>That was the seventeenth time that China had come to teach Vietnam a lesson!!!
>And the real question here should be, Who gave whom a lesson? According to
Time
>at that time [1]:
>...

I think China, in 1979, thought it could give Vietnam a lesson but it'd learned
a lesson instead. I remember reading from some book or article which quoted
Henry Kissinger's comment about China's lack of hi-tech resources in those
days. Right after that border war, Kissinger flew to China to visit and armed
with US satellite pictures taken during the China-Vietnam war. He gave them to
high ranking chinese army officers and pointed out to them how stupid they were
during the conflict. The Vietnamese with help from Russia's satellite pictures
was able to know in minutes exactly what/when/where of the chinese army, so
they were able to set up traps/ambushes/shelling points to inflict heavy damage
and casualty to the chinese. This kind of information, I believe, also had been
provided to Great Britain by the USA in the Falklands war between Great Britain
and Argentine.

These days, the communist china sticked its gun to Vietnam's cash cows (oil
fields in activity off Vung Tau) and menaced Vietnam. Vietnamese leaders,
knowing that nobody would come to the rescue this time, screamed "peace, peace,
let's resolve the issue peacefully" and tried to avoid the confrontation as
much as possible. If war breaks out Chinese army will march to Hanoi.


/cuong
From: nvt@netcom.com (Fam Com)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Re: [music] One more try - by Timmy T (for k)
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:40:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760)

*>In article <92208.192938U55041@uicvm.uic.edu>, Thu.c Quye^n <U55041@uicvm.uic.edu> writes...
*>>     The song is so touching.
*>>>     This song has always been one of my favorites.
*>>>     Thanks for posting this song.
*>> 
*>>     Best Regards,
*>> 
*>>       TQ
*
*
*>	There's no second chance.  So, there isn't another try.
*>	The song means nothing to me.  However, the music is good.
*
*        heehee why not???  There's always another CHANCE!!! :-)
*
*>m.l.
*
*F-A
*
         Nah!!!!  Opportunity knocks only once, there is NO second chance !!!

							NVT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese,rec.food.restaurants
From: James Peters <peters@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: [FOOD] Vietnamese restaurants in Boston?
Originator: peters@mikey.convex.com
Reply-To: peters@convex.COM (James Peters)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:32:16 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Jul29.151022.30079@m.cs.uiuc.edu> drk@melodian.cs.uiuc.edu (Dave Kohr) writes:
>
>Does anyone have suggestions for good Vietnamese restaurants in Boston? 
>
>I've been to one place called the Fish Palace (or something like that) in
>Brighton which was cheap and pretty good, and have heard good things about
>Buddha's Delight in Chinatown; I'd be interested to hear opinions of these
>2 places also.
>-- 
>Dave Kohr    CS Graduate Student    Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>(Summer) Office: (908)-582-4588	 (no home phone)  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
>      (Working at AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ for the summer.)

these are not in boston proper but i consider a 1/2 hr drive in the neighbor-
hood.

the saigon restaurant in millis, off route 109, has extremely good food. the
atmosphere is relaxed and is byob, so you won't get nicked by overpriced 
libations.

the southeast asia in lowell is way good food and features a market.
lowell is rather interesting place now that it has national park status.
my recommendation is to pick a night during the lowell folk music festival,
free open air shows, and stop by the southeast asia.

BTW if anyone has an update on mary chung's either post or drop me a note.

take care,
james, peters@convex.com
From: giao@informix.com (Giao Tien Vu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [POL] Re: Doing business in Vietnam
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:34:34 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Jul23.022301.28489@equalizer.fps.com> luong@fps.com (Luong Nguyen-Duy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.231100.22598@news.media.mit.edu> bui@berlioz.nsc.com writes:
>>
>>Not all, but among those who favor unconditional lifting of the embargo
>>are those who have business dealing with VN, or family ran business. Their
>>main concern is profit.
>>
>
>It seems that in general we dislike people who do business in/with Vietnam.
>Could someone give me the reasons, please ?  The majority of us we want
>capitalism in VN, and these people are doing just that -- business.
>There seems to be a contradiction here.  On the one hand we want 
>capitalism; on the other we scorn those who practices it.
>So I am confused to the distrust/hatred/dislike toward them.
>

I think that the main reason is the us-versus-them mentality.  It's great
if you are doing business with us because we are the good guys.  If you
are doing business with the bad guys, you're no friends to us.

The main reason most people gave is by cooperating with the Communists,
those capitalists are prolonging the sufferings of the Vietnamese people.
I'm a bit confused.  If the businesses would help improve the people's
life, are they truly bad?  If they would not, would the people be even
more discontent?

Pepsi and other US companies did business for years in the Soviet Union.  Did
they help keeping the communists in power?  No.

But I'm one of those people who believe that the USA should not put
sanctions on South Africa (same reason: the sanction would hurt the people
who need jobs - the poor).  Oh well...

Giao
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tranht@srv430.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Hieu Tran)
Subject: [poem] cho hoa phuong
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tranht@srv430.mrd.bldrdoc.gov
Organization: N/A
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:06:24 GMT


Ta(.ng  ..... ;-))))



Ta ye^u la('m phu+o+.ng ho^`ng tre^n a'o tra('ng
Khi ddo+n so+ mo^i phu+o+.ng dda('n ddo cu+o+`i
Nhi`n la' bie^'c phu+o+.ng the^u chu`m ddo? tha('m
Nghe trong ho^`n co^ng chua' phu+o+.ng le^n ngo^i

	Con chim xanh ti`nh a'i

	Em ru.t re` tha'ng chi'n
	Tu+` tha'ng chi'n to+'i nay
	Ta^m ho^`n anh go'i ki'n
	Ye^u em em co' hay

	Em ho^`n nhie^n tha'ng mu+o+`i
	Anh nga.i ngu`ng do` ho?i
	Pha?i em gu+?i nu. cu+o+`i
	Cho ti`nh anh tro^i no^?i

	Em ddo+n so+ tha'ng mo^.t
	Anh chie^m bao ti`nh co+`
	Em la`m sao bie^'t ddu+o+.c
	Tro+`i trong anh nga^?n ngo+

	Em tuye^.t vo+`i tha'ng cha.p
	Nhi`n em anh nga.i ngu`ng
	MUa` xua^n na`o chim ho't
	Mua` xua^n na`o nho+' nhung

	Con chim xanh ti`nh a'i
	Ba^y gio+` dda~ tha'ng ta'm
	Mo^.t mi`nh anh mo`n mo?i
	DDi tre^n no^~i u+u phie^`n
	
	DA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nbt@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu (Tr. or Ng.)
Subject: Re:  Doing business in Vietnam (was Re: Embargo & Normalization ( second poll ))
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:23:45 GMT

|> |>>
|> |>>Not all, but among those who favor unconditional lifting of the embargo
|> |>>are those who have business dealing with VN, or family ran business. Their
|> |>>main concern is profit.
|> |>>
|> |>
|> |>It seems that in general we dislike people who do business in/with Vietnam.
|> |>Could someone give me the reasons, please ?  The majority of us we want
|> |>capitalism in VN, and these people are doing just that -- business.
|> |>There seems to be a contradiction here.  On the one hand we want 
|> |>capitalism; on the other we scorn those who practices it.
|> |>So I am confused to the distrust/hatred/dislike toward them.
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>Luong Nguyen-Duy
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> 
|> 
|> I just read in Vietnamese magazine that a American company name Viet-Hoa
|> (the name reveals ethnic of its owners) sent people going around Mekong 
|> delta to gather high quality rices (ga.o tho*m, na`ng hu*o*ng, na`ng tho*m...) 
|> to import to the U.S. This is possible after the partial lift of trade embargo
|> a few months ago in basic human-need goods like food, medicine, v.v...
|> At the end of the year, we will see ga.o na`ng hu*o*ng Vie^.t nam selling
|> in supermarkets from Little Saigon to San Jose, Houston. Well, those rices
|> will be sold as well as "to^m tu*o*i", won't them?
|> 
|> It will be interesting if someone who loudly opposed embargo then tried to 
|> eat those rices.   
|> 
|> Companies, like Viet-Hoa, don't care a damn in Vietnamese politics here. 
|> They don't have time to read scv either. :-) They know that next to
|> the law of America the law of money will govern everything (Or they
|> should be swapped. I am not sure :-).
|> 
|> Tha^n,
|> Quang Le


	To^i kho^ng bie^'t Ngo^ Thanh Nha`n, Nguye^~n Trung Hie^'u, Bui` Va<n
DDa.o o*? dda^u sao la.i xu'i mo^.t lu? dda`n em xa?o ngo^n, ga^y ro^'i, lung
la.c lo`ng ngu*o*`i.  DDu*'a thi` a<n no'i Qua`ng xie^n xa?o tra', ddu*'a thi`
gia? nga^y gi?a da.i ca'i thu*' ba^'t Lu*o*ng, ddu*'a thi` vung vi't o^`n a`o
ca'i ddo^` khi? bi. thi.t, ddu*'a thi` na<`m vu`ng la^'p lie^'m se~ co' nga`y
kho^ng co`n ra<ng ma` a<n cha'o, ddu*'a thi` mang Giao ba^`u ra loe` kie^'n 
thu*'c, ngu xua^?n dde^'n nu*.c cu*o*`i. 

	Ngo^ Thanh Nha`n, Nguye^~n Trung Hie^'u, Bu`i Va<n DDa.o ma^'y te^n 
gian thu*o*ng na`y xin ca'c ba.n lu*u y' ke?o la.i bi. chu'ng ga.t ga^~m, du. 
do^~.  Co`n rie^ng dda'm nho'c ti`, khi? con thi` dde^? " Mua vui cu~ng ddu*o*.c 
mo^.t va`i tro^'ng canh"...

Cha`o
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca (Minhtri Truong)
Subject: Re: Spratly Islands
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca
Organization: N/A
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:26:31 GMT

Giao Tien Vu writes:
> 
......................................................................................................................> >blow given by the Chinese.
> 
> Vietnam cannot afford another war.  Even if it wins.
> 
> Giao
> 
          This is a good point.  Vietnam cannot afford to win another war.  
There is something about the aftertaste of victories that makes
winners feel no different from losers.

Tri'
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "Tuan Tu  --UNMCVM(TUANTU)" <TUANTU%UNMCVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:      Con cua
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: @mitvma.mit.edu:TUANTU@UNMCVM.BITNET
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:39:23 GMT


Ba`i na`y vie^'t ta(.ng cho ngu*o*`i co' ti'nh ti`nh nhu* con cua......


Con Cua  (Crab)

Em la` mo^.t loa.i cua...
Ti'nh em bu*o*'ng bi?nh ngang ta`ng
Mi`nh co' ta'm cha^n va` hai ca`ng
Em u*a thi'ch bo` ngang
Va` thi'ch lang thang trong chie^`u mu*a
Em thu*o*`ng ro*i le^. u*o*'t vai ai
DDe^m nay tra(ng va`ng sa'ng long lanh
Bo'ng sao dde^m toa? mo^.t tro*`i xanh

Vi` tra(ng sa'ng ne^n cua o^'m nhom
Tha^n hi`nh nho? be' co`m.........
Xi''''hi` hi` hi`......

Cua o*i ta no'i cua ne`...
Tha^n mi`nh be' nho? ti' ti
Cho*' ddo`i hie^'p ta.....

Ne^'u kho^ng thi` ta de^ cho ddo' bie^'t chu*a????????????


De^ Hoa`i Gia'o Chu?.......




Ne` ma^'y con ma o*? BU ne`, nha^'t la` Ta^`m Phu Ma Nu*~ Thu Thu?y, ba`i
na`y kho^ng vie^'t cho ngu*o*i -da^u -do' nhe.  Cho*' co' hie^?u la^`m ba^.y
ba. ddo' hi'..........
From: nguye978@Armstrong.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Looking for netters in West Germany or France
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:48:57 GMT
Reply-To: nguye978@Armstrong.EDU
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


  I am looking for some VNese netters in West Germnay or France.  Anyone
interested please email to me at
the address below.

  Thanks

-- 

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Internet: nguye978@pirates.armstrong.edu

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: VN, Malaysia leaders talk on bilateral issues
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:09:50 GMT


07/27

VIETNAM, MALAYSIA LEADERS TALK ON BILATERAL ISSUES

    KUALA LUMPUR, July 27, Reuter - Vietnamese Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet met
his Malaysian counterpart Mahathir Mohamad on Monday for talks which centred on
bilateral cooperation, Malaysian officials said.
    It was not immediately known if Kiet, on an informal two-day visit at
Mahathir's invitation, discussed possible joint Vietnamese oil exploration with
Malaysia.
    Both countries agreed last month to resolve an overlapping claim to a small
oil block in the South China Sea.
    A consortium of American and Canadian oil firms, which was awarded the block
by Malaysia in 1989, ceased drilling following a protest from Hanoi, industry
sources said.
    Kiet, who arrived on Sunday from Jakarta, will visit the northern Malaysian
resort island of Penang on Tuesday.
    He is due to leave for Bangkok on the same day for a two-day official visit
to Thailand.
    A Malaysian official said Kiet would return to Malaysia after his Bangkok
trip for a private holiday in the northern Malaysian resort island of Langkawi.
    Diplomats in Hanoi said last week that Kiet's visit to the three southeast
Asian neighbours marked Hanoi's keeness to be closer to non-communist Asia --
both economically and politically.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Thomas Nguyen)
Subject: Re: va`i va^`n.....tha^?n tho*
Reply-To: tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:54:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.144841.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov>, lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
>In article <8930279@hpldsla.sid.hp.com>, lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> 	  Ngu*o*`i o*i ! ngu*o*`i bie^'t hay kho^ng nhi?....!?
>> 	  No^~i nho*' da^ng le^n mo^~i mo^.t nhie^`u....
>> 		  Ngu*o*`i kho^ng be^n ca.nh , sao to^i to?....
>> 		  To? no^~i lo`ng to^i :..."to^i nho*'....ngu*o*`i".
>> 				     
>>                                            B.M

 *********************************************
>Em o+i! ne^'u mo^.ng kho^ng tha`nh thi` sao?*
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *

    Mua  chai thuo^'c chuo^.t uo^'ng  vo^ ro^`i -do+`i  !

 :-)
>HandsomeStranger........

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: eda892n@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Q.N. Pham)
Subject: [Tho+] Ma(.t em _ Xua^n Die^.u
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:14:53 GMT


	MA(.T  EM

	DDa~ bo^'n na(m tro*`i nghi~a vo*'i duye^n,
	Ma(.t em thay ddo^?i va^~n y nguye^n,
	Ne't the^m ro*` ro*~ nhu* to* chi'n,
	Da'ng va^~n thanh thanh tu*.a nu*o*'c hie^`n.

	Ke^? tu*` sen ngo' vo*'i dda`o to*,
	Anh dda~ tha^`m ye^u ve? di.u mo*
	Trong  ma('t ngo.c dden ky` die^.u the^',
	Nhi`n anh nhu* he.n dda~ nga`n xu*a.

	Khi ma(.t em ga^`y, la.i ra^'t ye^u,
	Nie^`m thu*o*ng nhu* bo^~ng do^.i le^n nhie^`u.
	Ma?i nhi`n bi.n ri.n lo em o^'m,
	Ma` ma(.t em the^m ve? le^. kie^`u.

	Khuo^n ma(.t xinh em ma~i ro*~ ra`ng
	La` sa'ch nghi`n trang sa'ch va.n trang
	So*'m mai anh tha^'y ma(.t tro*`i mo.c,
	Chie^`u ho^m anh ddo.c a'nh tra(ng va`ng.

	Ma(.t em o*? giu*~a kho tro*`i dda^'t,
	Vo^ ta^.n tho*`i gian co' ma(.t em.
	DDa'y tha(?m ta^m ho^`n anh dda~ ca^'t
	Ma(.t em, hoa vi~nh vie^~n nga`y dde^m.

			Xua^n  Die^.u
			( 9/2/1965)
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tran@macadam.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Liem Tran)
Subject: Two days to Olympic Game
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:54:37 GMT

Just a thought...

"The important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win, but to take part;
just as the important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle.
The essential thing is not to have conquered, but to have fought well."

		Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympics.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] Thought for the day
From: Le Duc <PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 11:51:37 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <1992Jul22.143921.11070@news.media.mit.edu>, Anthony Nguyen
<nguyenat@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL> writes:
>
>    From CBS Evening News last night:
>
>          -  The more I think, the less I understand.
>
>
  This person (from CBS, not you!) must have been "stoopid" then! :))))
  Okay, here is my own quote (I often quote myself
  as it has more "gia vi." :))):
             "The more you chase after love,
              the less you understand women."

   How is that, ha? :-). Can i be in the Hall of Fame ? :)))

Cheers,
Dduc