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From: sdo@piccolo.East.Sun.COM (Scott Oaks - Sun Consulting NYC)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: "paged" vs. panned virtual desktop
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:22:44 GMT
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Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Date: 16 Oct 92 18:33:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1bn1ssINNai9@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9210131517.AA26715@mtesol>, sinan@Mtesol.boeing.COM (Sinan Karasu) writes:
|> > Is there a window manager or other mechanism to effect a virtual
|> > desktop that is "paged" rather than panned? The idea is to have
|> > a control w/ eg. 3x3 boxes that represent 9 subdivisions of the virtual
|> > desktop. Clicking one of the boxes displays the corresponding part of
|> > the desktop on the physical screen. The pages should be continuous (ie.
|> > a window could be between pages), and ideally the 3x3 array would reflect
|> > in miniature the sizes and positions of all objects on the desktop.

In article 3037@mdavcr.mda.ca, dal@mdavcr.mda.ca (Dale Lutz) writes:
> There is also something called "olvwm" which gives a very nice virtual
> desktop if you are running/have access to Sun's open windows release 3.0

All you need to run olvwm is the OPEN LOOK Graphics Library olgx, which you can
also pick up on export when you ftp to get the olvwm sources.

-sdo

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From: egger@slsvaat.sel.de (Jochen Egger Fa. SSW US/ESS B.60/1/15 #3578)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help needed for Sun Type5 keyboard/X11R4
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:39:53 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SEL-Alcatel LTS Dept. US/ES

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 10:54:07 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.105407.17493@us-es.sel.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.unix.questions

Hi there,
I want to make a German type 5 keyboard run together with the MIT Xserver.
Therefore, I want to apply maf@dtek.chalmers.se's sun keyboard patch. 
In the sunkbd.patch there is a reference to a file in the mit/include directory:
    ../../../include/Sunkeysym.h .
I can't find this file in that directory. Can anybody tell me, since which patchlevel
that file has existed? We've patchlevel 18, and this can be built without this file.
Who knows where I can get this file from?
Who knows another complete patch which solves the type 5 problems?
Any hint is appreciated.



Thanks a lot,
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From: muradia@bcarh1ed.bnr.ca (Rajiv Muradia)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X based world clock anyone??
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:17:42 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

Date: 14 Oct 92 20:01:56 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct14.200156.8338@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.apps

In article <1992Oct8.083056.4698@reed.edu>, bthompso@reed.edu (Benjamin Thompson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.124038.25294@atlastele.com> brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets) writes:
> >I am looking for an X based world clock. Does anyone have such an
> >animal???
> >-- 
> >Brian Sheets				"TRUCK?! What truck?"
> >153 N. Hayden Bay Dr.			 
> >Portland, Or 97217			   -Raiders of the Lost Ark
> 
> Brian,
> 	One program that I use everyday and suits my needs is
> sunclock.  It can be found at export.lcs.mit.edu in /contrib I
> believe.  It may not be quite what you want, but it does show you
> which part of the earth is lit and which is not.  A real snazzy
> feature is that it will update an icon of itself if you have a window
> manager that supports updatable icons.  Please inform me if you find
> any other suitable "world clocks"
> 
> 
> -- 
> Benjamin Thompson                     My views are my own, as far as I know...
> bthompso@reed.edu                     I go to Reed College --- You can trust me

Have you looked at Xchrono. Here is the title from the README file. It should
be on the export.lcs.mit.edu site, if not check ARCHIE.

Xchrono is a multi-timezone, multi-face clock program for X Windows.

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From: michael@spike.uk.sun.com (Michael Wookey - Sun UK - Tech Support)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: problems with OpenWindows2 / OpenWindows3
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:09:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Date: 6 Oct 92 08:33:43 GMT
Message-Id: <ld2jr7INNki@cronkite>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Try recompiling your program using the openwindows 2 headers and libraries, everything 
should be OK then.
Forwards compatability is tricky, backwards compatability impossible :-)

If your program relies on openwindows 3 functions try statically linking to the OW 3 libraries
it might work.

Mike Wookey
Sun UK support
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: What would cause a window manager desktop to appear to freeze?
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:46:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Rescorla for himself.

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:50:03 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.195003.13788@news.yale.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.apps

In article <1992Oct13.182306.26593@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>What type of an action might a client take that would 'freeze' a server from
>processing other requests until the window visibly appears?
Call XGrabServer();
-Ekr

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From: gene@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Gene De Lisa)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: dragging to an icon
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:09:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:25:36 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct6.152536.7734@mercury.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif


I would like to implement a desktop type app where
a list of files can be selected and dragged to a 'folder' icon.

Is there code available that I can use as a starting point?
From: petew@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Pete Woodward)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11 R5 under A/UX 3.0
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:40:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9210071533.AA00291@reddevil.dcs.qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:33:32 BST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

 Regarding a query about building X11R5 under A/UX.  I have just finished
 building X11R5 patch level 16 using the following config
 
 	software = mit X11 R5 p.l. 16
 	compiler = gcc 2.2.1
 	os = 	a/ux 3.0
 	hw = macII cx
 
 I am in the process of evaluating the server, so far so good.
 
 
 					pete w
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From: jxv3790@hertz.njit.edu (Jake Vogelaar)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R4 with Trident cards ??
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:13:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Date: 5 Oct 92 20:47:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct5.204749.27099@njitgw.njit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	I have looked in the faq and the X386 modes database for any 
information on installing X11 revision 4 with a Trident 8900C card.
I just have the binaries for SCO Xenix 2.3.3 (from unix.secs.oakland.edu)
and installed them.  Is there any support built in support for the Trident 
card?  Otherwise is there any way to build in support (I don't have to buy
another SVGA card do I?)
I've been trying to get X runing for a while now so I would really appreciate
if someone could point out how to configure/build X for my hardware.


Thanks 

Jake Vogelaar
jxv3790@hertz.njit.edu
From: samborn@lynchpin.mtkgc.COM (Kevin Samborn)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: What would cause a window manager desktop to appear to freeze?
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:43:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 08:51:57 EDT
Message-Id: <9210161251.AA12607@lynchpin.mtkgc.com>

> What type of an action might a client take that would 'freeze' a server from
> processing other requests until the window visibly appears?

The routine XGrabServer does exactly this.  You then have to call
XUngrabServer to release the server.

However, I have a hunch XGrabServer is not it.  Another call that can
make the server appear frozen is XListFontsWithInfo.  This call returns
information about every font on the system, and on with a system like
OpenWindows 3.0 that has tons of fonts this takes forever.

One other possibility is that the application is doing something
un-X-ish, like with NeWS or SunView, or manipulating the kernel in some
way.

You can use xscope to see all this.  Xscope prints out each protocol
request/event as they happen.

Personally, I would guess it is XListFontsWithInfo...

(what application is it?)

kevin
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From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Running DOS application from X-Station
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:48:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:22:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct6.142239.10971@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <5817@news.duke.edu> maria@acpub.duke.edu (Maria Spicer) writes:
>Help me out here.  I have been thinking about purchasing DESQview/X,
>[...]  It was not my understanding
>that I should need anything else new besides the software.  Can someone
>please clarify?

You will also need some TCP/IP driver software to go underneath
DESQview/X.  FTP Software's PC/TCP and LAN Workplace for DOS both
work.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368

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      space programs.  We view technology transfer as a way of life.  
      It's one of our top priorities." -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: How to make mouse button 2 act like mouse button 1
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:09:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Via: uk.co.ggr; Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:14:23 +0100
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:38:50 BST
Message-Id: <9210021738.AA02718@uk0x06.ggr.gri.com>

> > > Hi. I have a need to make mouse button 2 act identically to mouse button 1
> > > in a Motif application.
>............
> >The best bet is to tweak your server so that anything that comes from
> >button 2 gets reported as button 1. 
> 
> Without server source, this isn't possible. Or even desirable, given the
> new definition of "universal" above. I only want this behavior for this app,
> not all clients that I ever run.

     Ok,  this  *isn't*  what you want, but you wouldn't need the server
source to do it.  All you would need is:

   xmodmap -e "pointer 1 1 3"


     Why  don't  you  write your application so that *all* button events
are  defined  in  application  default  files.   Then  *each   differnet
individual*  can  set up the events to be on button 1 or 2 (or whatever)
as *they* see fit. 



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From: westhawk!thp@scslwide.sony.co.jp (Timothy H Panton.)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:48:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 11:08:10 BST
Message-Id: <9210091008.AA07158@westhawk.uucp>


I've been reading what I can about NT, and have noticed a couple of 
things that Unix has grown out of have resurfaced in NT.

Kernel based windowing systems. NT is in this respect a throwback to
Sunview days. I realize that the "micro kernel" may alleviate this.
I noted with interest that MS is trying to persuade developers
to bunch calls to the windowing system in order to cut down the number of
context switches needed. As the link between the two is sync I don't
think they can get the gains that X11 did by going as async as possible.

Universes. I hated universes in Dynix/ Gould's unix etc. The facilities 
you wanted were never all available in one universe. MS seem to have
several, totally isolated environments. At least in SunOS you could
always link to /usr/5lib/libcurses.a as well as /usr/lib/libdbm.a
(for example). In NT, if I understand the diagram, you can't write a 
Posix program that uses the window system or Novel networking. 

These sorts of problems is solveable, but I think they will limit the 
utility of NT until they are fixed. That won't per se reduce sales,
but it makes things more interesting.

Tim
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From: wgsaxena@sdrc.com (Rajiv Saxena)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: MIT miscellaneous X extensions.
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:18:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SDRC

Date: 2 Oct 92 20:48:06 GMT
Message-Id: <2085@sdrc.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	We got some MIT X extensions for our IBM RS/6000 machines.
 Having compiled  the lib "libXextSam.a" cleanly and building the
 X server I am wondering what are the extension keywords for the
 various extensions like multibuffering etc.  By keywords I mean
  something which goes with the xinit command, like "pex" in the case
  below.

	 xinit -x pex (to start X server with PEX extension)  

 There are some executables which make use of multibuffering extensions
  but would not fire up because the Xserver is not running with these
  extension.

	
  Would someone out there know about such extensions and how to
  invoke the X server with them.

  Thanks ,
		Rajiv Saxena  

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From: 52kaiser@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Matthew Kaiser)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: pixels values: how to get them from canvas
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:27:19 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:08:35 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct9.140835.1012@sol.cs.wmich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

hello

i'm trying to figure out..

how on earth does someone find the value of a certain pixel on a canvas
within a X window application?

52kaiser@sol.cs.wmich.edu
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From: xappeal@xtreme.sublink.org (X Appeal Info)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Desqview/X over SLIP
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:29:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Xtreme s.a.s. - Livorno, Italy

Date: 9 Oct 92 18:47:49 GMT
Message-Id: <eiiDsB1w164w@xtreme.sublink.org>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.windows.x

ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff) writes:

> Appendix B: RS232-based access
> 
> FTP's SLIP protocol allwos DESQview/X systems to be linked to remote computer
> using RS232-based connections. This can be used to provide dial-up access
> to any remote system over a modem.
> 
> Does this mean that they want me to buy FTP's package just so I can use
> their SLIP driver?!!?!? So to connect via xwindows to a mainfraim they
> want me to buy Desqview/X, Desqview/X Network Manager Desqview/X to other
> X Systems, AND FTP's package???? 

I'm sorry for you, but I think you're right...

> agghghg.. Is there any way I can get Desqview/X to recognize the current
> drivers I am using (slip8250). I don't see why I shouldn' be able to tell
> it the ioadress and other information that works fine with KA9Q and CUTCP.

Because KA9Q and CUTCP include the TCP/IP network layer inside, while
Desqview/X doesn't (like most, but not all, DOS X servers).
The problem is that for applications like the one you are thinking of,
Desqview/X is not exactly the best choice. It offers things that no DOS
X server offer (local clients and multitasking on the PC), but at the
expense of ease of setup and overall cost. Desqview/X *contains* a DOS
X server, but *is not* exactly a DOS X server, in the common sense of the
term: there is no similar product which requires *two* separate software
modules (or three as you write) *plus* the TCP/IP transport, to be able
to talk to other systems on the network.

Have a look at Daniel Jack McCoy's list of non-Unix X servers, recently
posted on comp.windows.x, for cheap alternatives. It is also available
on export.lcs.mit.edu, directory contrib.


Best Regards

Giovanni Novelli
Xtreme s.a.s. - Livorno, Italy
xappeal@xtreme.sublink.org
From: mizuhito@ntt-20.NTT (Mizuhito Ogawa)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.types
Subject: fj.mail-lists.types is closed ecl.ml.****
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:15:17 GMT
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Newsgroups: fj.lang.forth
Subject: struct in Forth (Re: RPN + logic)
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:29:57 GMT
Organization: Inst. of Info. Sci. & Elec., Univ. of Tsukuba, Ibaraki, Japan.

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From: gojira@pfu.fujitsu.co.jp (Yuuichi YASUDA)
Newsgroups: fj.lang.forth
Subject: Re: I seek "std. Forth"
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:17:12 GMT
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Eiji Inoue (t20258@mech.t.u-tokyo.AC.JP) wrote:
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