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From: mike@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Cosmik Debris)
Subject: Re: Sleep Dirt
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:09:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.200950.2604@vexcel.com>, dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes: 
> Some of the stuff on the Warner records (Sleep Dirt, Studio Tan & Orchestral
> Favorites) was scheduled for release on Lather/Leather/Crush All Boxes
> (or whatever).  I think these mixes were from FZ.  Other songs were pulled
> from masters at the studio and mixed by them.  These songs may have
> never been mixed down yet because FZ either wasn't ready to, or wasn't
> going to, release them. Thats how I have heard it.  Anyone heard it
> different?
> -- 
> 
> 		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)

The rumour I heard at the time of their release was that Frank wanted to break
his contract with Warner but had agreed to release so many albums and he used
these to fulfill his contract.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Re: Sleep Dirt
Keywords: fingers, stuck
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 08:12:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.205508.17497@cs.com> larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:
>In article <RABIN.92Oct1204618@nuthatch.CS.Yale.Edu> rabin-dan@cs.yale.edu writes:
>>This might be a good place to post a recollection I have about a Zappa
>>interview from about the time of `Sleep Dirt' (+/- 2 years). 
>
>
>He definitely had/has the gtr with neck pickups, I don't recall if
>it was used on those tracks.  I always liked the fretless guitar on
>"San Berdino" -- are there any other Zappa tunes using that guitar?
>
"Down In the Dew" uses the fretless for the whole tune.

Mark
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Crappy Sound Quality on Ryko's "You Are What You Is"
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:21:12 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Rob Sweet writes:
>
>         Are there any other omissions or shortcomings on other CD
> re-issues? (Not necessarily Zappa?)
>


It's been mentioned here before several times, but Hot Rats is truly depressing
the way it has been remixed. The sound is painful to listen to! Thank God my
original of this is in good shape.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather)
Subject: Re: Crappy Sound Quality on Ryko's "You Are What You Is"
Organization: Centre for Applied Obfuscation.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:26:36 GMT
X-Posted-From: orpheus.sees.bangor.ac.uk
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Rob Sweet writes:
> 	Are there any other omissions or shortcomings on other CD
> re-issues? (Not necessarily Zappa?)

Some, nay many, will vigourously assert that the addition (re-insertion)
of vocals into _Sleep Dirt_ was a serious shortcoming of that particular
CD reissue.  Of course, it's all just a matter of personal taste.

I hunted down the vinyl version after buying the CD.  I'll leave you to
draw your own conclusions.

Cheers,

Paul.

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From: skershaw@alsvid.une.edu.au (Shane Kershaw )
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Death by Nostalgia - unknown or not worth talking about?
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:14:11 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

Hi,

Trying to get some idea about Death by Nostalgia. A record store owner here
in Sunny, windy Lismore has a customer who wants a copy. His listings suggest
it doesn't exist. Anyone like to put the lie to that one?

If it does exist, both he and I are in the market to obtain legitimate copies
of it. Mail me if you know where to get some copies. 

Thanks,

Shane.

"He's still white, Jim"
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici)
Subject: Availability of "200 Motels"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:34:24 GMT

2 weeks ago I purchased "The Making of 200 Motels" for $30 in a local
NJ record/video store. They also had "200 Motels" itself for $20.

So, I guess it's out there.

-Steve  srm@garage.att.com
From: heinr@sci.kun.nl (Hein Ragas)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Movie Recommendations....
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:12:05 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

Talking of movies, has anyone ever seen the FZ-movie "Onion Town"?
It's quite good (I think), with Peaches, Room Service, Stinkfoot,
Cosmic Debris, some other stuff, and Nite School! Great claymation
on some numbers too...
I even saw the Peaches-part of the video played on MTV! (Dig that!!!)

Greets,
      Hein "I'm too sexy for a SPARC" Ragas
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Looking for songs in unusual times
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:06:37 GMT


A friend of mine wants me to make him a tape of Zappa songs that are
in unusual times.  I don't have any musical background and really
can't tell what songs fit the description.  I remember someone saying
there is some stuff on Joe's Garage, but I don't remember what tracks.
So, mail me some tracks that come to mind, and I'll make a list.  If
there's any interest, I'll post it.

Thanks,
-rob
francisr@indiana.edu
From: jybriend@ens-lyon.fr (Jean-Yves Briend)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Movie Recommendations....
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:47:40 GMT
Reply-To: jybriend@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon


Ha Ha.... 200 motels is available in France... And I will soon buy it
From: ssac+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Alan Sisson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: oops
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:43:09 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

whoops..! ignore the man behind that curtain
sorry.. I didn't intend for my previous post to go to this newsgroup
						TV
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sleep Dirt
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:26:50 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <2H1XRB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:
>
>  I was interested to see discussion of Sleep Dirt, since it is one of my 
>favorite Zappa albums\. 
>  Second, does 
>anyone know anything about how "The Ocean..." came about?  I suspect that 
>it was a jam and that one of the guitars was later ovJerdubbed, but I 
>could be wrong.

The guitar solo towards the end is an overdub.  I have heard the bootleg
version (though I don't have it) without the solo, just the trio, with
FZ doing the chord-oriented guitar work.  As with the Purple Lagoon, he
must have thought the long jams needed beefing up.
>
>     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
>     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa


-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: phart@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Paul O. Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: cancertubes
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:15:47 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

Quoted from krmorrow@vax1.tcd.ie in <1992Oct5.154527.1@vax1.tcd.ie>:
->Frank has cancer of the prostrate, I read it in the 
->Independent.            ^^^^^^^^^

prostrate - adj - extended in a horizontal position, prone.

F.Z. has cancer of the prostate.
                       ^^^^^^^^
prostate - noun - a glandular body at the base of the male
                  urethra.

No flame, just a spelling check.  8^)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Fillmore East---Is "Willie The Pimp, Part 2" *really* omitted on CD?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:08:32 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <RABIN.92Sep30105421@epic.CS.Yale.Edu> rabin@CS.Yale.Edu (Dan Rabin) writes:

>Paul Mather speculates that the omission of `Willie the Pimp, Part 2'
>from the CD version of `Live at the Fillmore East' is just a matter of
>labeling.  

>It is not.  The music is not physically present on the CD.  The
>fuzz-tone guitar solo from the LP is missing, and there is a break in
>the music before the next song, which there isn't on the LP.  The
>printed timings are a lie.

This is true.  I am rather familiar with the solo in part 2 and it is not
on the CD.  The fact that they went so far as to lie about the timings
indicates a far greater fuck-up.  Perhaps it will be fixed in a later
version.  RYKO and Frank seem to be pretty good about this sort of thing.


>This is a major disappointment to me, as I was looking forward to a CD
>with the concert's continuity restored.  

Interesting you should say that.  Willie The Pimp parts 1 and 2 are from
different concerts.


Mather also suggested that I "just listen to the LP"  I'm sorry, but I
don't feel like going to the antique shop to purchase it and the requisite
turntable.
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From: drw@panix.com (Douglas Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Crappy Sound Quality on Ryko's "You Are What You Is"
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:29:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1a3phpINNk81@skat.usc.edu> sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:
[...]
>
>	And don't forget the shortened guitar solo on "Dumb All Over".
>This is one of the few CD's that were not an improved or equal version
>of the vinyl master.  Oh Well.
>
>	Are there any other omissions or shortcomings on other CD
>re-issues? (Not necessarily Zappa?)
>

Could it be a defect in my copy, or are there two bars missing
from the closing guitar improvisation in "Uncle Remus" on the
"Apostrophe'/Overnite Sensation" CD?  This may be a nit-pick,
but I'd heard the solo so many times on vinyl that the omission
stood out loud and clear.


-- 
Douglas Williams
drw@panix.com
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From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sleep Dirt
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:13:55 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <VANSOEST.92Sep28082822@utis69.cs.utwente.nl> vansoest@utis69.cs.utwente.nl (Dick van Soest) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.165413.15857@kth.se> pli@bella.nada.kth.se (Peter Lidbaum) writes:
>
>   Is there *anyone* except me that actually *likes* the new version of 
>   "Sleep Dirt" (with vocals)? I'd always considered Sleep Dirt to be a somewhat
>
>I certainly like "Sleep Dirt" with vocals. I always had the idea that
>something was "missing" from the instrumental version, it certainly
>does not have much energy. It's also interesting to hear a female
>singer in the lead role in one of Zappa's pieces.
>With or without vocals, I'm glad I have a CD version of the title
>song. The structure is so good, I wonder if it was completely
>improvised, or partly written beforehand. Also, because of the "stuck
>fingers", the length is exactly right, and not twice too long, as
>most of Zappa's solos...
>
>--
>Dick van Soest
>Department of Computer Science
>University of Twente           |      Tel: +31 53 894107/893690
>P.O. Box 217                   |      Fax: +31 53 339605
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>The Netherlands                |   Bitnet: vansoest@henut5

Keep in mind that Sleep Dirt was one of the Warner records that was
mixed by Warner people without FZ's input.  Although Zappa has changed
the mix on some rereleases, to the anger of some fans who liked and
got used to the original, we don't know what he would have done to
Sleep Dirt.  I got used to the original and don't like th vocals so
much, although "Time  is Money" sounded like a rhythm track and may
be an improvement.  The Ocean is the Ultimate Solution is my favorite
and its the same.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: ken@claris.com (Ken Walter)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sleep Dirt
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:43:08 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Santa Clara CA

dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:

>Keep in mind that Sleep Dirt was one of the Warner records that was
>mixed by Warner people without FZ's input.  Although Zappa has changed
>the mix on some rereleases, to the anger of some fans who liked and
>got used to the original, we don't know what he would have done to
>Sleep Dirt.  I got used to the original and don't like th vocals so
>much, although "Time  is Money" sounded like a rhythm track and may
>be an improvement.  The Ocean is the Ultimate Solution is my favorite
>and its the same.
>-- 

Yeah, but Zappa finished the tracks on the Warner albums.  Most of them
were part of the _Lather_ 4 LP set, and were basically released as is
in new configurations on the Warner albums _Studio Tan_, _Sleep Dirt_,
and _Orchestral Favorites_, with quickie covers and lousy liner notes.

The vocals to Sleep Dirt weren't added until the early eighties.
The lyrics are in Them or Us -- The Book (available from Barking
Pumpkin).

That said, I own both and like both.  It is still possible in the
nineties to play LP's, you know.

Ken
ken@claris.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: roland@ar80darlrk.er.usgs.gov (Roland Bryant)
Subject: Re: Movie Recommendations....
Organization: US Geological Survey, WRD, Arkansas District
Reply-To: mrbryant@ar14darlrk.er.usgs.gov
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:57:04 GMT
X-Posted-From: ar80darlrk.er.usgs.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


>200 Motels is where it's at.  Accept no substitutes (including Baby Snakes).

>Are you sure that video is 200 Motels, the movie itself?  I've never seen
>it available, though I recall seeing a video >about< 200 Motels.  (The
>real thing stars Ringo Starr (as an ersatz Zappa), Throdore Bikel and
>Keith Moon, among others.

The actual film 200 Motels was available on video tape in 1990.  
I had a local Block Buster order it for me and the price was ~$20.
I don't know if it's still available, but I suggest that any 
Zappa fan should check out this film.  Also if you're at a Block 
Buster, have them do a computer search on the name Zappa, you'll 
be suprised at how many films show up.

BTW, the 200 Motels was originaly distributed by MGM

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From: cadwell@rad.psu.edu (Brian Cadwell)
Subject: Re: Frank's Hustler Pictorial...At Last!
Reply-To: cadwell@rad.psu.edu
Organization: Penn State Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:06:55 GMT

We have the text, now some one with the mag and a scanner should
post the pictures!

bc
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Fillmore East---Is "Willie The Pimp, Part 2" *really* omitted on CD?
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:17:15 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <1992Oct1.163344@sees.bangor.ac.uk> mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather) writes:
>fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>> In <RABIN.92Sep30105421@epic.CS.Yale.Edu> rabin@CS.Yale.Edu (Dan Rabin) writes:
>> >the music before the next song, which there isn't on the LP.  The
>> >printed timings are a lie.
>
I have many Ryko and Barking Pumpkin cd's with wrong timings.  The timings
usually get corrected after they have been out awhile.  I guess thats the
price you pay (besides the $$$) for getting a release when its brand new.
I also noticed that the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium show credits are
all messed up in my Stage V/VI notes.  The '81 band is listed for the
'80 shows and some songs are credited for the wrong year.  The correct
band is listed in the Shut Up notes for Soup N Old Clothes.
>
>-- 
>e-mail: p.mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk
>
>If your mailer can't reach me, I'm obviously not worth talking to.


-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Sleep Dirt
Summary: a nebulous followup
Keywords: fingers, stuck
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:55:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <RABIN.92Oct1204618@nuthatch.CS.Yale.Edu> rabin-dan@cs.yale.edu writes:
>This might be a good place to post a recollection I have about a Zappa
>interview from about the time of `Sleep Dirt' (+/- 2 years). 

The Guitar Player interview in 1976, maybe?  Guess I should break down
and buy that collector-skum-priced issue of GP that a store here has...

>He said
>that somebody had built him an electronic gizmo that took a single
>note from the guitar and played a chord based on that note. 

This might be the Electro-Wagnerian Emancipator (EWE), but I don't 
remember for sure (helpful, huh?).  Frank was defintely into some
interesting hardware for a while, like the Mutron Bi-Phase pedal and
the EWE.  I'll bet there'll never be another EWE (sorry %).

>I also recall that he said he had a guitar with pickups in the neck
>for playing behind the fretting finger, and that parts of the `Inca
>Roads' solo on `One Size Fits All' were played this way.

He definitely had/has the gtr with neck pickups, I don't recall if
it was used on those tracks.  I always liked the fretless guitar on
"San Berdino" -- are there any other Zappa tunes using that guitar?

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: List of Zappa material
From: bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:35:21 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

  Ok, it's organization time. I've collected Zappa for quite some time now, 
and I'd like to organize my CD/LP's by release. Most of the CDs have reprint 
copyright dates, not the originals (some don't even have the original date 
of release)

  Basically, does someone out there have a list of >ALL< of Zappa's 
material in chronological order?

  Kind of an odd request, but hey..
-- 
-brian bernstein
bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather)
Subject: Playground Psychotics
Organization: Centre for Applied Obfuscation.
Keywords: new release
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:47:06 GMT
X-Posted-From: sol.sees.bangor.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Just got a flyer today from a major UK Zappa dealer.  In it are details
of the new _Playground Psychotics_ 2CD which they say will be "in yer
door Oct 12."

_Playground Psychotics_ is recorded in 1971 live at the Fillmore East, NY,
Pauley Pavillion, UCLA, and the Rainbow Theatre, London.  In his
introduction, FZ says:

	This album moves beyond mere rock & roll into the dangerous
	realm of social anthropology.  It offers to younger musicians
	the chance to participate vicariously in the touring world
	of the 1970's (way back when it was still sort of fun to do).


The track listings are:

DISC ONE

A TYPICAL DAY ON THE ROAD, PART 1

Here Comes The Gear Lads
The Living Garbage Truck
A Typical Sound Check
This Is Neat
The Motel Lobby
Getting Stewed
The Motel Room
Don't Take Me Down
The Dressing Room
Learning "Penis Dimension"
"You There With The Hard On!"
Zanti Serenade
Divan
Sleeping In A Jar
"Don't Eat There"
Brixton Still Life
Super Grease
Wonderful Wino
Sharleena
Cruisin' For Burgers
Diptheria Blues
Well
Say Please
Aaawk
Scum Bag
A Small Eternity With Yoko Ono


DISC TWO

A TYPICAL DAY ON THE ROAD, PART 2

Beer Shampoo
Champagne Lecture
Childish Perversions
Playground Psychotics
The Mudshark Interview
"There's No Lust In Jazz"
Botulism On The Hoof
You Got Your Armies
The Spew King
I'm Doomed
Status Back Baby
The London Cab Tape
Concentration Moon
The Sanzini Brothers
"It's A Good Thing We Get Paid To Do This"
Concentration Moon
Mom & Dad
Intro To Music For Low Budget Orchestra
Billy The Mountain

THE TRUE STORY OF 200 MOTELS

He's Watching Us
If You're Not A Professional Actor
He's Right
Going For The Money
Jeff Quits
A Bunch Of Adventures
Martin Lickert's Story
A Great Guy
Bad Acting
The Worst Reviews
A Version Of Himself
I Could Be A Star Now


Musicians heard on the dialogue portions include:  FZ, Mark Volman,
Howard Kaylan, Jeff Simmons, George Duke, Ian Underwood, Aynsley Dunbar,
Martin Lickert.

Musicians performing on the Pauley Pavillion & Rainbow Theatre Cuts
include:  FZ, Mark Volman, Howard Kaylan, Jim Pons, Don Preston,
Ian Underwood, Aynsley Dunbar.

Musicians performing on the Fillmore East cuts include:  FZ, Mark Volman,
Howard Kaylan, Jim Pons, Bob Harris, Ian Underwood, Aynsley Dunbar

Included in the booklet are tiny FZ stories about each cut.  (I guess
a bit like Frank did for the YCDTOSA sampler LP.  I wish he'd carried
that on for the entire YCDTOSA series...)


Needless to say, before anyone asks, I haven't heard this album.  I
haven't even got around to ordering it yet!

Cheers,

Paul.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather)
Subject: Fillmore East---Is "Willie The Pimp, Part 2" *really* omitted on CD?
Organization: Centre for Applied Obfuscation.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:46:46 GMT
X-Posted-From: sol.sees.bangor.ac.uk
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fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
> The ones I have problems with:
> 
> Filmore East: Willie The Pimp, Part 2 is completely omitted.

They have a used copy of the LP in my local shop.  When I looked at the
running order it seemed to me that the running times for "Willie The Pimp"
parts 1 & 2 on the LP added up to approximately that of just part 1 on the
CD.  (On the LP part 1 ends side 1 of the album and part 2 begins side 2.)

I strongly suspect then that the CD version has just run both together
but instead of renaming it simply "Willie The Pimp" decided instead to
retain the more confusing title "Willie The Pimp, Part 1."

Maybe someone who has both CD and LP can clear this up?

> The only recourse, is to get copies of the rare vinyl and record them onto
> one of the new Sony Minidisks.

Or, strange as it might seem, just listen to the LP... ;-)

Cheers,

Paul.

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From: mgd@world.std.com (Matthew G Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Publication Oct ??
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:30:15 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA



Does anyone know anything about the Zappa special issue from the publishers
of Keyboard and Guitar Player magz?  

Expected published date: Oct 11????
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa