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From: u8acb@ohm.york.ac.uk (Alex Barclay)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Turbo-Revving
Keywords: OUCH!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:11:29 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <1992Apr15.044951.18317@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Clark Kent) writes:

>The strangest thing happened to me today, while driving my newly-acquired
>1988 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe.  I was accelerating fairly quickly in first
>gear(5 speed), when I tried to shift to second, the engine nearly red-lined
>(it may have, but I was too startled to look at the tach).
[Stuff Deleted]
>	Have any of you T-Bird owners experienced this?  It scared the p*ss
>out of me, especially not knowing its cause.  What are the chances that my
>engine/turbo was/were damaged as a result of this sudden overrevving/shutdown?
>I bought it less than a month ago, and I've only put 800 miles on it.  Should
>I take it to the used car dealer where I purchased it, or have it looked at
>by Ford.  My after-market AGC warranty covers the engine/turbo, I guess
>that's another option.  If you have any ideas, please post or email me, as I
>will not sleep at night until it's solved.  Thanks...

Well I'm not a T-Bird owner but it sounds like you just have a sticking
throttle. The turbo even during over-revving shouldn't be damaged because
the wastegate should operate normally. And anyway a bit of overrevving
of the engine will not damage that either. There's quite a few times
when I've been hammering up through the gears only to miss a tricky
4-5 change to get 8500 rpm before I notice the missed change.

The best remedy is as you say have it looked at by whoever sold you the
car ( but that's British law, dunno what your laws are like ). It'll
probably them back the cost of a new cable, springs etc. so it's not
exactly a problem.

Out of interest does the car have a rev limiter, probably set to about
7200 or something like that, as it's quite popular on European turbos.

			Alex.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pmw3y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (patrick widener)
Subject: Recommendations for/against Nissan Pathfinder
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: pmw3y@virginia.edu
Organization: Radio Free Lerxstwood
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 22:47:14 GMT

I'm considering buying a Nissan Pathfinder sometime in the next
year or so (not necessarily a new one, although I understand that
the 2-door model is no longer available in new models).  If a few
of you folks who have some experience with this vehicle would take
some time to give me your impressions, I'd appreciate it.  I would
also appreciate pointers to published evaluations of the Pathfinder
(I already have the Consumer Reports pieces).  Please e-mail
responses, as I don't read this newsgroup.
Thanks!

-- 
patrick widener	       		"Coronation, StarScream?  This is BAD COMEDY."
c.s. grad student, UVa			-- Galvatron, _The TransFormers_
pmw3y@virginia.edu
From: wangj@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Comments asked on Uniden Radar Detector
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:28:31 GMT

Hi, there!  I have a chance to buy a Uniden radar detector (type RD-3XL, I
think).  Since I don't know much about a radar dector, and you can only test
it after you get a ticket, any suggestions? And also comments on the detector
of this type?  Thanks in advance.  -- Jin
From: rajiv@mbunix.mitre.org (Kohli)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Discrimination at Mitsubishi
Date: 2 Apr 92 20:06:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA


	Thanks to all of your support and guidance. I don't plan to take my
	car to the dealer as I do have AAA+ (for my Nissan) which allows towing 
	to a max of 100 miles to a shop of your choice. So if Mitsubishi, as per
	contract 3 yrs towing included ...which they have broken before, tries 
	to take to the Nashua dealer I can always call in AAA.

	I would like to thank all of you for replying, offering rides in
	emergency, calling Nashua Mit, calling Mit HQ, etc. I am going to wait
	for about 15-20 days for Mitsubishi to respond and if not I will
	pack all the responses and send it to them and let them know that
	the
		"word is getting around"
	

	Can anyone suggest which other group I should be posting to - so I can
	get net'rs to call Mitsubishi HQ.

Rajiv Kohli
rajiv@mbunix.mitre.org
From: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passing cars on the right...why?
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:22:38 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr15.020047.17233@cs.cornell.edu> chang@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chang) writes:
>
>The moral of the story is:
>
>   The driving patterns in the U.S. can be crazy because:
>
>      1.  The highways have stupid features like left entrance ramps.
>   
    Around Cincinnati, they also have left EXIT ramps.  Must be a
    plot by the local body shop owners.


>      2.  You never know if you should follow the speed limits.
>
    Of course you do.  Check for fuzz, then go for it.  >:-)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: tinyguy@cs.mcgill.ca ()
Subject: Cars under $10000 - recomendations?
Originator: tinyguy@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:57:16 GMT

What would be a good car to buy for the first time buyer?
Something relatively cheap, say, under $10,000US or $12,000CA ?

Very important points :

   - Reliability for the next four years.
   - Resale value in four years.

Others :

   - Fuel Economy.
   - Reasonable performance.
   - Parts/repair cost.
   - Lotsa features.

Not looking for :

   - 2 door coupe with baby rear seats.
   - tiny, like Geo Metro, or Ford Festiva.

Any comments from the following choices?

   - Chevrolet Cavalier.
   - Ford Escort/Mercury Tracer.
   - Honda Civic.
   - Hyundai Elantra.
   - Hyundai Excel.
   - Nissan Sentra.
   - Saturn Sedan.(SL1/SL2?)
   - Toyota Corolla.
   - Toyota Tercel.

Thanks in advance.

-TG

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From: RFU101@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Kerbeck Cadillacs
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:51:52 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


  Every Sunday in the Phila. Inquirer, a car dealer from Palmyra, NJ runs
 an ad in the Auto section on used Cadillacs and Lincolns at incredible
 prices i.e. '91 Sedan DeVille 18k mi. $14,990 or '91 Lincoln Town Car
 27k mi. $14,990 or '90 Sedan DeVille 52k mi. $9990, etc.  Has anyone on
 the net ever dealt or know someone who has dealt with this dealership?
 How are they able to offer these cars at such low prices?  Again, the
 dealership is F.C. Kerbeck & Sons - (they also sell Rolls Royce, Bentley,
 Lamborghini, GMC and Saab.)   Thanks for any input.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: irwin@horton.Colorado.EDU (IRWIN JULIE R)
Subject: Re: Cars under $10000 - recomendations?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:56:13 GMT

tinyguy@cs.mcgill.ca writes:

>What would be a good car to buy for the first time buyer?
>Something relatively cheap, say, under $10,000US or $12,000CA ?

>   - Chevrolet Cavalier.
>   - Ford Escort/Mercury Tracer.
>   - Honda Civic.
>   - Hyundai Elantra.
>   - Hyundai Excel.
>   - Nissan Sentra.
>   - Saturn Sedan.(SL1/SL2?)
>   - Toyota Corolla.
>   - Toyota Tercel.



What about Mazdas?  The 323 and protege are very reasonable and reliable--
I've had one (a GLC-- earlier version of 323) approximately forever and
it is fun to drive and cheap to maintain.



>Thanks in advance.

>-TG

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:37:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: nosc.5356
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego

In article <1992Apr17.155610.27294@eng.umd.edu> floyd@eng.umd.edu (Mike Hughes) writes:

>In article <5354@nosc.NOSC.MIL> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:

>>One more time --

>>the intake restriction imposed by a closed (idle-position) throttle plate is
>>the only significant difference between an idling (or decellerating) gasoline
>>engine versus a Diesel. 

>	Ok, lets think about this...Walt, did you purpously avoid the 2 or 3
>responces from the people that tried your test (throttle closed vs. throttle
>open)?  I planned on trying the test as soon as you guys (Alan & Walt) proposed

Nope, I didn't avoid them on purpose...  I dismissed them temporarily until I
could determine what the grade on the hill I used was and post that information
with a request that those who couldn't duplicate my findings determine the
grade of the hill they used...  Mine was *quite* steep and I did two runs...
Both ignition *off* at the 'same' point on the hill (as best as I could
estimate) with a 1975 Dodge Ramcharger, 3-speed LoadFlite trans, fulltime 4WD
(NP-203 transfer case), 3.55:1 final-drive ratio, 360cid, 2bbl carb,
headers/dual 2.25" exhaust.  The 'throttle-open' descent was faster (as
determined by frontseat passenger armed with stopwatch).  That is how I
conducted my experiment...

Walt K.
Xref: sparky rec.autos:10916 rec.autos.driving:2220 rec.autos.tech:5548
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 04:50:10 EDT
From: David Tascarella <DST1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Choosing a radar detector

In article <1992Apr6.140641.25545@wpi.WPI.EDU>, jayg@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jay Giurleo)
says:
>
>Newsgroups: rec.autos rec.autos.driving rec.autos.tech
>Subject: Choosing a radar detector
>Distribution: world
>
>Hello, I need help in picking a radar detector.  Basically, I want to know
>if there are any brands that stand out as being better than the rest, or
>if there are other things that I should look for when picking one.
>
>Also, how common is the Stalker gun these days? I live in Mass, and I'm
>wondering if I should spend a little more for that protection. (I think
>Seekonk, MA uses it, but I haven't heard of any more.)
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>--

    Well, I just went through what you are about to go through.  To make a long
 story a mid sized one, I bought the BEL 936W.  This detector picks up X K Ka
 and ALSO wideband Ka (that is where stalker and photo radar are used)  This un
it is very sensitive and is brand new to the market.  Not to sound like a comer
cial, but it has antifalsing circuitry, city/hgwy, volume, mute, and a host of
other features.  BEL also makes a model # 966 that protects from radar detector
 detectors.  I got the unit for 169 bucks from Crutchfield in case you were won
dering.   If you want their 800 phone number, let me know by email.



                                                      DAVE
                                                      DST1@PSUVM.psu.edu






>
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi Galant VR4 clutch
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:19:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: dog.22578
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

>I've heard SO many bad things about Mitsubishis that I'm glad I don't
>own one (and I did look at the VR-4!).

My wife's base Eclipse has given nearly 3 years and 20,000 miles of
flawless service.  That includes teaching the kid to drive a stick.  

There are two flaws that affect the more powerful (turbo) Eclipses,
and possibly the mechanically similar Galants, in hard usage:  brake 
rotor warping and a frangible manual tranny.  Ask your dealer about
service bulletins or inquire on the Talon/Eclipse/Laser mailing list.
The paint is decent but not the best around, and the cable shifter
sometimes makes me feel like Indiana Jones trying to find 5th or
reverse with a bullwhip.  It needs bigger mirrors, but so do most
cars.  But all I've done is severe-service routine maintenance.

I'd recommend the car unreservedly, and, with a bit more trepidation,
the dealer. The car has a solid, built-to-last feel we didn't expect
in a small Japanese car, and the performance of the 1.8-l base engine
has been surprisingly adequate.  One data point, worth whatcha paid.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cmj@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Chris Jenkins|xxxxxx)
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 13:51:52 GMT

From article <1992Apr6.210956.19514@qualcomm.com>, by ganapath@tahoe.qualcomm.com (Chinnappa Ganapathy):
> What causes engine braking?  I'm sure there are a number of factors
> including friction and de-compression.  What else?  Also, to what extent
> do the different factors affect engine braking?  e.g. Will better
> lubrication decrease engine braking?  How much?
> 
I was under the impression that engine braking was forced downshifting of the
transmission to slow the car down (in the event of brake failure, etc.)

---cmj
From: keys@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Larry Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 300ZX vs SVX
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:18:05 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

In article <1992Apr4.000704.17390@menudo.uh.edu> kevin@taronga.taronga.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.233344.25792@leland.Stanford.EDU> allen@leland.Stanford.EDU (a Soong) writes:
>>300ZX (normally aspirated) or Subaru SVX
>>Which one should I buy?>
>>Any comment s will be appreciated.
>
>The 300ZX.  It wins on looks for sure.  As all the Subarus I've heard about
>are junk, I'd be wary of the SVX in terms of build quality.  The 300ZX
>probably wins on ergonomics, too.
>
>Chances are, the 300ZX handles better as well.
>
>Anyway, the 300ZX is what *I* would buy if given the choice.
>
>You realize, of course, that you have the option of getting yourself a
>couple of Mustang GTs for the price you're talking about...:-)
>
>
>		Kevin Brown (kevin@taronga.taronga.com)


Don't buy either.  Get one of the "NEW" Mazda RX7's.  Have you seen it
yet?  It's HOT!



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        Fahrvergnugen forever!

Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers,rec.autos.tech
From: ccc@anomaly.sbs.com (Cole C. Calistra)
Subject: Re: Car Wax Recommendations
Organization: Small Business Systems, Incorporated, Esmond, RI  02917
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:46:04 GMT
Keywords: Car, Auto, Wax, Paint, Protection, Polish, Clear Coat

kevin@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Kevin Kreutzweiser) writes:


Personally I recommend 3M Liquid ClearCoat Polish.  It costs about $10
for a quart size bottle.  It goes on easy and comes off easy with a 
non-orbiting buffer.  I've never done the whole car without the buffer, butit says that it is also good for use by hand.  Be warned though, it will bring out MANY imperfections in the paint.  I didn't realize that my car has been painted before until I used this polish, it brought out a lot of orange peel.  Don't
worry about using a buffer w
either, I've held the buffer on the same section of paint at high speed and it doesn't damage the paint at all, since there are no abrasives in the polish.  I'm not sure where specifically you can buy it, I buy it at an AutoBody supply store and I've seen it at small independant parts places, especially those dealing with automotive paint.  It isn't available at major chain stores like AutoPalace or ADAP.  


Meguiar's Mirror Glaze professional car wax system is also good.  That is more
widely available, but costs the tsame for a smaller bottle.

h>Can anyone recommend a car wax suitable to protect a clear coat paint
>finish?  How abrasive are products like Mothers California Gold for new
>car finishes?

>I'd prefer something with no abrasives at all, but I haven't been able
>to find a product that doesn't have any.

>Kevin
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cjc@bnr.co.uk (C.Chambers)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Honda Prelude Manual
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:34:25 GMT
Reply-To: cjc@bnr.co.uk (C.Chambers)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

I am looking for a Honda Prelude manual, Year 1987. Haynes do not seem to print
one in England. All I can get hold of is a garage manual at about $45. Does any
one know of anything else on the market.

Thanks in advance.
From: sehgals@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (The Golden Bear)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Need info. on Paint Protcetion
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:40:54 EST

Hi
I was just wondering if anybody had some information on paint protection.
My friend and I have just purchased new cars and we are debating about 
this paint protection.  There are two possiblities, either we can apply
a glaze ourselves or goto a auto service store(like Ziebart) and they
will apply a "paint protection" to our car for about $150.

Any information is appreciated.
Thanks
Sanjay

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dougb@comm.mot.com (DX529 Doug Bank)
Subject: Re: Are all Americans Stupid???  (Why 55?)
Reply-To: dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:19:47 GMT

kevin@taronga.taronga.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
|> kerrat@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Adrian T Kerr) writes:

|> >Where are the statistics that say 55mph  is  the  safest  maximum
|> >speed  a  four wheeled vehicle can travel at? 
|> 
|> Beats me.  I don't buy it, myself.  I suspect that most of the people
|> here on the newsgroup don't buy it, either.

Isn't the *real* reason for 55mph speed limits the oil crisis of the early 70's?
I thought they instituted the reduced speed limits to decrease gasoline 
consumption.  Of course, I could be wrong.  I was only 7 at the time. :-)

-- 
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dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com          Motorola Communications Sector
dougb@nwu.edu                   Schaumburg, Illinois
dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu       708-576-8207
From: aragorn@watnxt04.ucr.edu (Daniel duLuard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Wanted:  280z or zx
Keywords: 280
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:25:02 GMT
Reply-To: dduluard@ucrmath.ucr.edu

I'm looking for one in about the '78-'84 range.  Must be in good condition and
relatively low mileage.  Please reply only if in Southern California.
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
From: jitendra@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Jitendra Kavathekar)
Subject: Help on VW Jetta GLI
Originator: jitendra@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:08:16 GMT

In article <8APR199210022846@vx.acs.umn.edu> you write:
>In article <1992Apr8.124847.26292@wpi.WPI.EDU>, jimk@wpi.WPI.EDU (James Matthew Kokernak) writes...
>> 
>>Not all North American VW's are assembled in Mexico. Look at the VIN.
>>If it begins with a "W", then it was built in West(ern) Germany. The
>>Fox is built in Brazil, all of the Jettas are built in Germany, some
>>of the Golfs are built in Germany, some are built in Mexico, some might
>>be built in U.S. (This is all as far as I can tell)
>> 
>>--Jim
>
>This is not exactly true. Most of the Jettas are built in Mexico. Last time 
>I was at my dealer I checked for the VIN of all cars on the lot. Only the
>Jetta Diesel had a 'W'. All the Passats had that 'W' though. You do
>not even have to bother reading the VIN. Just take a look at it. If it's
>written in big letters and the letters are white then it is from Germany.
>The mexican ones just stamp the letters and the size it's quite small.
>
>Peter

I was interested in the jetta gli for this year.  With all the talk on the
net, it seems wiser to buy cars built in Germany rather than one from Mexico,
I had a couple of questions:
   What is the VIN?

   What were you refering to when you said the above?  What is supposed to be
   in big white letters.

BTW, what would be and excellent deal on a 1992 Jetta GLI from Germany?
Also, do you know if 1992 Jetta's are available with the front lights 
like the GTI.  Meaning the front lights with out the rectangular covering?

Thank you for your help

Jitendra


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: st883787@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: CAR FOR SALE
Reply-To: st883787@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:55:51 GMT

			For Sale
	1986 mitsubishi Cordia Turbo
	maroon with grey fabric interior
	5 speed manual
	1.8 liter turbo engine (120hp and at least 140 lbs ft torque)
	power steering and brakes
	cruise control
	moonroof
	Thule roof racks
	Hella 450 driving lights
	Kenwood 757 pullout stereo ($500 radio)
	Mitsubishi 50watt/4 channel amplifier
	Cannon Heavy weather rubber mats (like ad in R&T)

Recent parts: tires,shocks,struts,clutch,brakes.

PRICE:$3500 or best offer

This car has never failed me, it gets 24 mpg intown and 31 hwy.  E mail to my
account or call me at 617 736 6994.
					Josh