HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: You heard it here First
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:36:18 GMT


In article <1irsu2INN3qa@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.123717.16201@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
> >ps: thank the PrimalPointOfSignificance that rON
> >does not have any PrimalPointOfSignificance, nor
> >that he engages in any effort to resolve the questions
> >related to his meaning and significance in being.
> >I'd hate to think of him engaging in anachronisms....
> 
> Depends on whom I'm engaging anachonisms with, eh?
> (Need to avoid them evil 'HeteroSectualTypeActivities', right? :)
> 
> Actually, I do believe in a god, just don't bother with all the hokum trappings.


Go on rOn, tell us which one :-)

Kev.

-- 

WHFS: Living in a screwed-up place in a screwed-up time with screwed-up people,
      does not necessarily mean you are screwed-up.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:37:30 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: criteria
 <38vr6tr@lynx.unm.edu>

In article <38vr6tr@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) says:
>
>In article <1993Jan2.195012.1212@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
>mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:
>>In article <-dtr5sq@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>>>Why is it any more of a close-minded criterium then any other criteria like
>>>>intelligence, humor, physical characteristc, geographic location, level
>>>>of education, lifestyle compatibility, sexual preference, etc?
>>>This argument, and others like it, smack close to hypocracy-
>>Please be so kind as to point out where exactly this smacks of hypocracy?
>
>IMO, when one complains about a lack of appropriate dating material on one
>hand and on the other produces a very limited list of criteria that a
>potential SO should meet, that is hypocritical. :)
>
>r.
>(I'm trying to keep these short, because there is a lot to respond to, and
>I don't want to bore the entire universe with my twisted idealism :)

Why hypocritical?  (i.e. acting in a way that contravenes their stated
ideals?)

It might be stupid, if something on the criteria list is something
that you have to get from yourself (like self esteem) or something
you *can't* get - La Belle Dame Sans Merci, a mindreader, etc, but
narrow criteria and bitching don't seem hypocritical.

Annoying, sure - if you want to be fussy, you have to be prepared to
suffer the consequences.

Graydon
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Question about divorced women...
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:01:34 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I don't know if I felt the same way about relationships as your friend
does, but I'll say how *I* felt anyway.  One of the big things for me was
how my dates interacted with Alice.  I was really insecure about how
she'd get along with them and what they thought about her.  Any comments
like "you're paying too much attention to her" or "can't you get a 
babysitter more often so we can spend more time alone"* and the guy was 
history.  The asshole who said "Don't you think it's likely that she'll
grow up to be a drug addict schizo like her dad?" is probably still
bleeding.  Guys who thought she was OK but didn't pay much attention to
her one way or another were neutrals on the baby scale.  When I met my
mutant sweetie, I was dating two other guys that I kinda liked, but 
Alice was so-so on them and adored him at first sight.  But then, I
was insecure about how baby and gentleman-friend would interact, but
not so insecure about relationships in general.

*I don't think this is a bad thing to say in general, but when Alice
was < 1 year old, building a relationship with her was a hell of a lot
more important long term than building a relationship with anybody else.
I refused to leave her with somebody else more than once a week, and I
didn't want to leave her that often.  An older kid would be different, I 
guess.  And it would be different if she wasn't in daycare while I'm at 
work or if my Mom were in town to watch her.

Dawn
"What if I had PMS all my life, and told you you looked just like Barney Fife,
What if I twisted it in like a knife, Until it made you cry? Until it made
you lie? Would you still love me?"
"What If..." by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: rON bashing
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:50:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.192225.14625@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>
>Perhaps we're not reading the same articles.  Did you happen
>to catch this insult directed squarely at Ms. Kitsis' religious 
>beliefs:
 
Insult or common sense?
 
>
>  "I think it idiotic to be utilizing modern technologies that spread your 
>   words worldwide almost instantaniously, but refeuse to eat a ham-and-cheese
>   sandwich because you might get condemned to whatever for it."
>
>    blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
>
>
>I think Ms. Kitsis is entitled to respond to such intolerant 
>remarks in any manner she pleases.
 
4.3 reeks of desperation.
 

 
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From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: Lancey
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:59:51 GMT

spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
>OBsearch:  If anyone knows a woman ... with the maiden name of
>Phyllis Irene Gatter, please ask her to get in touch.

I could ask if she had a sister named Allisson (or Allie, for short),
but I won't, since it would be a crock.

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:30:07 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
 <1993Jan7.225814.20952@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <ewright.726520511@convex.convex.com>
 <1993Jan8.222334.20157@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <ewright.726726993@convex.convex.com>

In article <ewright.726726993@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V.
Wright) says:
>
>In <1993Jan8.222334.20157@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve    )
>lode
>writes:
>
>>Not exactly; developing your physical and mental powers (or, for that
>>matter, just about any other abilities) takes an investment in effort and
>>dedication.
>
>Well, if that's the case, energy and dedication being finite quantities,
>the more you invest in developing your muscles, the less you have left
>to develop your mind.  But Trygve Lode, Charlie Martin, and Company are
>pretty vehement in denying that is true.
>

Sure they're finite quantities, but physical fitness and your mind aren't
*seperate* quantities.

Arguing that they are is a lot like arguing that it doesn't matter what
the hardware is like, the software is all that matters.  (And even the
most ancient, cranky, machine coded down to the bare metal software
is hardly connected to the machine compared to the degree of connection
between your mind and your glands.)

It's the mind-body duality thing again, Ed; you seem to believe this,
that if you work at nothing but your mind you get better results for
your mind than any other way.

There are a lot of people of the belief that body and mind are just parts
of a continum; I happen to think that they're right.  If they *are*
right, it is at least possible that an unhealthy body puts an upper limit
on the functioning of your mind that no amount of focus or study can
allow you to exceed.

Graydon
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saundrsg@               "Praise then Darkness and Creation unfinished"
   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,misc.misc
From: matt@severian.chi.il.us (Matt Crawford)
Subject: Re: "Quickie" Divorces
Organization: The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:50:39 GMT

jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes:
> Khan writes:
> > It's just that in Illinois the divorce laws say that one must
> > wait at least 6 months between the time the divorce is filed and the
> > time it becomes finalized ... 
> 
> Heh, does it now? Could have fooled me. I live in Illinois and it only took  
> about a month from the time I moved out until the divorce was final, and it  
> wasn't filed until about 3 weeks or so before the court date.  ...
> Check with a lawyer again, and I think the phrase to key on is "no-fault",
> but I am not sure.

"No-fault" is the case Khan was almost describing, although the
six-month/two-year period is measured from the end of cohabitation,
not from filing.  If you have grounds more substantial than
irreconcilable differences, there may not be such a period.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 05:25:25 GMT

In article <ewright.726879258@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>
>Even though this is soc.singles, it seems the only people you
>really want to hear from are those who have already found someone.

Hey, most of the other soc.singlers seem to be willing to put up with me
and I'm the one known for the slogan, "I feel so much better since I've
given up all hope."

Trygve   (Of course it could be that they just keep me around as a 
          token nice guy--after all, you have to have at least one
          of them around on a newsgroup like this one....)
--
For a good prime, call 2^756839-1. 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: Mongrel Ethnic Purity (had stopped  being
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 07:23:37 GMT

In article 26545@julian.uwo.ca, jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:

>	Hmmm. Perhaps you could institute a tradition of not marrying anyone
>whose ethnic group(s) have already been absorbed into your family. This
>can, of course,  greatly  complicate  catering  arrangements at family
>get-togethers.

This may eventually happen. Who knows?

>	Would each PNG highland community count as a separate ethnicity?

Maybe. There are countries in which the gene pool is not very diverse.
Inbreeding is a danger because of centuries of isolation in some parts of 
the world. The new global conception of humanity instead of ethnic cliquish
practices will decrease inbreeding and actually strengthen the gene pool
for everyone eventually.

Mongrels are a good thing, IMO. Bastards are cool, too.
If not for a long line of bastards, I wouldn't be here! </.Q
                                                            \
                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

dreas


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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: Meeting guys
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:21:32 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan8.013640.19112@borland.com> eomiya@borland.com (Elliot Omiya) writes:
 
|Hmm, Waterloo, Ontario, sounds cold there.  Got any ski resorts?  Doesn't
|matter if you know how, learn well enough so that you can get on the chair
|lift and try to pair up with cute guys.

|  In the U.S. (don't know about Canada)
|the average male skier is college-educated, well-off and single, nice odds
|if you can get them.  

Do you have a source for this?  More than anything I've found that the
demography changes depending on the ski resort.  Places like Vail, Squaw
Valley,  and Sun Valley have different clientel than places like Boreal
Ridge (CA),  Arapahoe Basin (CO), and Grand Targhee (Wy).  

And it does matter how well you ski.  If I'm riding up a chair and see an
attractive women below (love that aerial view) I can ski well enough that
I can catch her by the time she gets to the chair and yells "single".
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: Mega-stud seeks large woman....
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:38:45 GMT

In article <4hzr=xl@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:
>>mhull@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr Mj Hull) dreams:
>>>Hi! I'm a 23 year old engineer who is looking for a casual relationship
>>>with a beefy woman.
>>I am truly cowed by the thought!
>Well, it was a personal ad in the wrong newsgroup, but as they say, 
>To err is human, to forgive, bovine.

I can't believe I herd you say that!  What a load of bull!  If I ever meat
Mr Hull's dream woman, I will certainly heifer avoid him.

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<1993Jan7.225814.20952@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<ewright.726520511@convex.convex.com>
	<1993Jan8.222334.20157@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<ewright.726726993@convex.convex.com>
	<JULIE.93Jan11191949@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu>
	<MARTINC.93Jan12091806@grover.cs.unc.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:19:32 GMT

martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>>.... Your case would be a lot more convincing if you seemed to have
>>other things to say about other aspects of life, as both Charlie and
>>Trygve do.  They don't exactly strike me as lugs with nothing to talk
>>about except how much they can bench press.

>Thank you.

You forgot to give me a score!

---Julie
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From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:58:29 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1iif86INNm1p@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.233456.24005@borland.com> eomiya@borland.com (Elliot Omiya) writes:
>>She somehow had to work her tables and convince me she had a brain on her
>>shoulders (she's a teacher) which wasn't easy, because it's a busy place.
>
>Just ask her which of the flags hanging up on the rasters is New Zealand, and
>which one is Australia.

Hey!   Most NZers and Australians don't even know that one!  ....

...... says a lot, doesn't it?!







Rachel                           "Supergoof!"
                                    -  -
                                    O  O
                                      >
                                     \_/
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: But hark! My pulse like a soft drum...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:05:47 GMT

Beats my approach, tells thee I come...

Greetings again, james...

I write:

>> Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us?  I do not think so...

james.j.dutton writes:

> You would prefer "Steatopygous's 'R' Us" mayhaps...

Oooh... I don't think so... Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us is better...

Until again...

phantasm
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:07:45 EST
From: K. Roper <ROPERK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: FLIRTING AS AN OLYMPIC DEMONSTRATION SPORT

In article <93011.190507HOLTONS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, Psycho!!
<HOLTONS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> says:
>
>>>     Hmmm... are those the ones with the trap door in the back?
>>>
>>
>>   Yes, and the wine cellar.  Care to join me in a toast?
>
>
>   I'd rather join you in your johns.
>

   That one goes over the top, darling.  I'm afraid I'll
    have to take a penalty shot.

   Do you prefer nets, hoops, or uprights in which to put
     your sporting equipment?


   *lick*
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:34:29 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan11.234650.27620@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>Well, if that's the definition of attractiveness that you use and it
>works for you, well, then I guess you have easilly quantified tastes.

That's not my definition.  It's society's.


>No one else I know uses such a standard of attractiveness--

Really?  You're saying Madison Avenue spends billions of dollars
promoting an image that won't appeal to most people?  

Spend a couple hours watching that media you pimp to other people.
Forget the programs, just flip from one channel to another watching 
the commercials.  What do you see?

One of the most popular commercials right now shows a female runner
in a skin tight leotard, saying "I believe sweat is sexy."  (Ugh!
Makes you wonder what she thinks about lymph, bile, urine, pus, and
other bodily fluids.) 


>in particular, I'm still laboring under the problem that none of the women
>I find especially attractive meet our cultural ideal, 

Why is that a problem?  If you find her attractive, why is it
important whether or not she meets the cultural ideal.  (Apart
from the fact that you either don't understand, or are reluctant
to admit, what the cultural ideal *is*.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
From: clever@sequent.com (Cathy Cleverley)
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:42:26 GMT

bss2p@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Brent S. Stone) writes:

>As long as Heather got the ball rolling on the
>subject of meeting people, where you meet your
>current partner?  Theorizing where to meet
>people is one thing, what works is another.
>So how about some info for the group?

>BS


I sent him a piece of e-mail, of course :-) (I'm sure this has been
said many times).~

However, the difference is in our first date.  He took me flying (he
flew the plane, I sat trying not to look *too* nervous).~
--
Cathy Cleverley                                 clever@sequent.com
Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.          +1 416 629-4000
"An expert is anyone more than 100 miles~
from home with a set of slides"
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:30:28 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
 <1993Jan6.220416.17663@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <c6yrdba@lynx.unm.edu>
 <1993Jan7.181317.11151@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>

What I find myself trying hard to understand is why Ed cares if she's
athletic or not.  If she insists he's athletic, and he doesn't want
to be, he has a problem, but the set of atheletic women and the set
of women who insist on athletic SO's is *not* a one-to-one mapping.

Graydon
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saundrsg@               "Praise then Darkness and Creation unfinished"
   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: helie@bach.udel.edu (Ray Helie)
Subject: How can people do that?!!
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:56:18 GMT

kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan) writes:

: ...
: Sometimes I wonder about that.  I know of one woman who dated her present
: husband when he was still engaged to be married to another woman, watched 
: him marry that woman and get divorced in less a year, dating him all 
: throughout the four years or so.

: And another one whose current boyfriend secretly dated her without his
: then-longtime-girlfriend knowing and who ditched that girlfriend (Maybe. 
: That is, he could be doing the same thing to her right now).  She's still 
: with him and has been for the last three years or so. ...

I have a quetion for /everybody/:  Why the hell do people /do/ that?!!!
How can someone be involved in a relationship (certainly not committed)
and mess around on the side?!  I do /not/ understand that!  Lying to 
your partner to hide things you are doing is an /ingnorant/ thing to do.

If the relationship is not working out, you /talk/ to your partner.
If things cannot be resolved, you end the relationship, and /then/
you begin anew.  A lack of courage for going it alone does /not/
justify treating another human being with such a /huge/ lack of
respect.

I admit, it /is/ hard ending a relationship, but I don't find it
possible for me to see someone on the side while I still have a
relationship going.  Any comments, experiences or opinions that
anyone cares to share?  Why, why, /why/ do people do that?!!  And
for that matter, /how/ can they live with themselves?!!  I'd 
/really/ like to know!


Ray  

*/ Ray Helie         8-)                   University Of Delaware  \*
*\ [helie@bach.udel.edu]                   Newark, DE              /*
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From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:14:31 GMT

In article <?*a1H28eyb@atlantis.psu.edu>, R9S@ECL.PSU.EDU (Roberto G Sung) writes:
|> 
|> call me old-fashioned, but i think most men get turned on by a Murphy
|> Brown shouting "strip" out of her cigar-stuffed mouth while brandishing
|> a loaded UZI. And the effect can be a sure fire if they happen to have
|> just spent 3 months at sea with an all-male crew.
|> 

I can say one thing:  Murphy wouldn't have to use an uzi on me! 

Chris Hudson
-- 
Save the Sharks!
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 The mist crawls from the canal like some primordial phantom of romance, 
 to curl under a cascade of neon pollen.  While I sit, tied to the phone 
 like an expectant father, your carnation will rot in a vase.
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