From: riggs@descartes.tec.army.mil (Bill Riggs)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Politics and Personality Type (was Re: Why????)
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:39:53 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc,sci.psychology
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In article <1jNTn1#2hOQHF17YOtt1z6kKQ0ZGhlK=esr@snark.thyrsus.com> esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes:
>In <YAMAUCHI.92Nov5171939@yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu> Brian Yamauchi wrote:
>> Based on the data above, one might expect conservatives to be SJs,
>> liberals to be NFs, and libertarians to be NTs.
>> 
>> From purely anecdotal evidence, this seems to be a pretty decent first
>> estimate.  There certainly seem to be more libertarians in the
>> scientifical/technical (NT) fields in general, and computer science
>> (NTP) in particular, than in the overall population.  Likewise
>> political conservativism seems to be strongly correlated with
>> religious conservativism and traditional values (SJ), and political
>> liberalism with humanist academia and the fine arts (NF).

	A couple of sidebars. ENTPs are called "inventors", and are risk
takers. INTPs are referred to as "architects" and love design more than
the payoff of making things happen. ENTJs are referred to as "field marshals"
and love leading others (for their own ego gratification). INTJs are 
"scientists" and are intellectually the most independent of the 
classifications.

	There is plenty of room for ideological diversity among these types.
>
>I think you're dead on target.  This agrees with my own observations, and
>the NT/libertarian correlation is one I had noticed previously.
>
>(Me?  Anarcho-libertarian hacker and really obvious ENTP)
>-- 
>					Eric S. Raymond <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>

	I was outta town last week - down in San Antonio, two blocks from 
the Alamo. Contrary to the nasty rumors that you may have heard, I was NOT
sleeping off that case of "Old Revenuers" Tuesday night.

	If you look at the book "Please Understand Me" you get the following
rundown on historical figures:

	Ulysses S. Grant - NTJ (Introvert/Extrovert variable not defined)

	Adolf Hitler - ENFJ (Well, I guess that "fine arts" must include
	frustrated artists.)

	Joan of Arc - ISFP or ISFJ (Internally driven woman, not too big
	on warm fuzzies)

	Erwin Rommel and Phil Sheridan -  ISTP (Adventure lovers who can
	think on their feet)
	

	If you look at the numbers, you get roughly the following 
	breakdown (My understanding is that these numbers are, in fact,
	constant across cultures - which leads to some interesting
	conclusions for us WASP World Republicans, of the ENTJ 
	persuasion):

	NT - 12 %
	NF - 12 %
	SJ - 38 %
	SP - 38 %


	Which would bias the political system to the right, with "social
conservatives" (SJ) outweighing their left wing counterparts, the NFs.
Forward Thinkers (NTs) get split up according to their ideologies
(I'm an NTJ/NTP myself) - in this election, however, advantage Clinton, since 
the Bush people had this astigmatism problem :)

	The wimp conservatives ?  SP all the way. The ones who voted this
year reunited with their welfare dependent and labor union brethren to
gain the election for Clinton. But this group is the least likely to vote
regularly, since they are into rapid gratification, and are the least
commited to Mr. Clinton's bandwagon. Ross Perot's support also must have
been heavily SP, with a few cynical NTs thrown in to make up his 20% of
the 55% who voted. Looking at the numbers, Perot must have had between
20 - 25 % of the available Joe Six Packs, with Clinton getting slightly
more.

	It would also be significant to know what the proportions of the
nonvoters were in this election, to see if if any particular group sat 
out this election.

	Bill R.

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-- 
Bill R.