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From: dan@hpwin051.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett)
Subject: Recipe suggestions
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:20:24 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]



For the family with a taste for spicy food...

   How about Caesium con Carne? - safest when eaten with the rice left
   uncooked.

   Or can I tempt you with Caesium Vindaloo? It's the only curry where
   mixing natural yoghurt with it does nothing to cool it down...

   Stir-fry Caesium - just wear goggles and enjoy!

Regards,
Dan.

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: johnw@bluemoon.use.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: TV antenna Info
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 09:21:59 EST

I read in the New issue of Popular Communications how someone wrote in on 
how he used the Radio Shack portable amplified antenna for his scanner and 
got increased range.  I went and got one and it works great!  Frequency 
coverage as indicated will cover about any band needed.  Cat # is 15-1607 
cost is $24.95.  I had to put on a Motorola Plug for it.
 
     This antenna does not overdrive the scanner, like some amplifiers 
I've hacked together.  And for an indoor listener like myself it is a 
godsend.
 

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: jennings@ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings)
Subject: Re: HELP! FCC and Cordless Phones.
Reply-To: jennings@ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:01:59 GMT

In article 9916@panix.com, oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) writes:
$$$In <1992Dec12.024339.4539@wkuvx1.bitnet> morrejk@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
$$$
$$$
$$$>  Someone on a local bbs here in Bowling Green, Ky is ragging me that
$$$>listening to cordless conversations with a scanner is illegal, and
$$$>against the FCC.  I was curious to know if anyone out there could shed
$$$>some light in my direction.  I told him he was WRONGO! but he
$$$>persists with his accusations and warns the entire public about
$$$>scanner crazed privacy invaders.  If anyone could email me (since I
$$$>don't get to read news too often) with something along the leagalities
$$$>of this procedure, I would be eternally grateful.  Basically, anything
$$$>having to do with the legal'ness of doing this.  Nothing, please if
$$$>this process is illegal, and I am truly a law breaker when scanners
$$$>and cordless phones are concerned.
$$$
$$$I think the person you are hearing from might be thinking of cellular
$$$calls.  Those you are not supposed to listen to.
$$$
$$$Now, there is a rule about listening to other things, including 
$$$cordless phone calls.  You are not supposed to divulge the contents
$$$of what you hear to anyone else, nor act on it.  Maybe this is what
$$$your friend is thinking of.
$$$
$$$This is not legal advice.
$$$
$$$
$$$Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
$$$30 Rockefeller Plaza
$$$New York, NY  10112-0228
$$$voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519

If he has a problem with people listening to his phone then he should invest in
a scrambled phone. The only one I know of is made by Motorola. They claim that
it cannot be understood on a scanner. I have not tested it so I don't know if
the claim is correct. This is not to be confused with phones that claim security
between the base and handset. This only works to keep other handsets from 
listening in. Of course the Moto phone is about $250.

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Timothy J. Jennings 			"I Yam What I Yam."
Motorola SSDT Division			--Popeye
email: jennings@ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: "dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com>
Subject: new canadian scanner laws
Reply-To: "dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:55:42 EST

   I posted the following on "The Listening Post" BBS in Toronto,
thoughht others might be interested.

   In case you missed it, inside the first section of Sat. Dec.
12/92 Toronto Star: Headline - "Ottawa unveils weapons in phone -
snooping war"

   " People who intercept and make use of cellular phone conversations -
or even disclose the existence of an intercepted call - could face up to
two years in jail under laws proposed yesterday." It says fines for
individuals could be up to $25,000,  corporations 75,000$. And $5,000
possible to person whose call was intercepted. The changes ".. for the
first ime classify radio-based telephone communications as private
communications in the Criminal Code"
    And conclusion "Under the proposed law, scanners would be legal, but
people wouldn't be able to intercept cellular calls maliciously or for
profit."

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From: nsabh@bssv01.hac.com (Nael Sabha)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: L.A. Police Dispatch
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:23:03 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Does anyone have the LAPD Dispatch freq.  With all that
is going on here, I think it would be interesting.  Also,
I have tried, but unable to locate the LA Sheriff's
freq for dispatch in the Lakewood sub station.  Anyone have
that one?

For Orange County, I have 460.425 as the dispatch for the
cars, known as yellow channel.  It is good because both the
dispatch and cars are on the same.

Thanks,
Nael.
ZZ
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: "dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com>
Subject: new canadian scanner laws
Reply-To: "dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:10:26 EST

JLWJ>    Subject: new canadian scanner laws
JLWJ>"dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com> writes:
JLWJ>> individuals could be up to $25,000,  corporations 75,000$. And $5,000
JLWJ>> possible to person whose call was intercepted. The changes ".. for the
JLWJ>Heeee.... that is a good one!  Fining the VICTIM!   Gawd, and I thought US
JLWJ>laws were bad.  That one takes the cake!


    Ummm, sorry, that may have been a bit vague - the actual line in
article is:

    "And people could be ordered to pay up to $5,000 to anyone on whom
they have eavesdropped illegally."

     I assumed that people would understand that the person whose call
was intercepted would receive $5,000, but you know the story of ASSUME:

     It Makes an ASS out of U and ME.
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From: gregs@hotcity.COM (Greg Stramback)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New Uniden Product?
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:12:25 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <9212171748.AA22161@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>,
PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU writes:
>On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:42:17 GMT you said:
>>In article <1992Dec14.234417.7387@newstand.syr.edu>,
>>wsmiddel@rodan.acs.syr.edu () writes:
>>
>>  > ...   Uniden  said the device is not a radar detector, but a
sophisticated
>>  > programmed mobile  scanner/ receiver that responds to radio waves emitted
>>from
>>  > special secondary transmitters, which have been installed in most highway
>>  > patrol vehicles recently...
>>
>>
>>translation: mobile extenders
>
>>
>>Uniden already makes a few radios like this -- a scanner
>
>Someone else had the idea a few years ago but called it a "CHiPs
>Detector".  As I recall, it lit up and beeped whenever it heard something
>on CHP's mobile extender frequency.  Pretty low-tech but the marketing
>guys made it sound Zowee!  I hope they have right freqs in the ROM...
>
>
>Peter Laws,
>Associate Editor (Arkansas)
>RCMA _Journal_
>
>Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|  
pcl@engr.uark.edu
>n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper 
|plaws@uafsysb.bitnet

well, far be it from me to comment, but it's not hard to hear the mobile
extenders yourself on 154.905.  I listen to that in conjunction with 42.500
every morning and afternoon on the way to work and back.  42.500 keeps me
informed of where the accidents are since it's the dispatch channel for the
south bay area, and 154.905 is low power and can usually be heard only within a
mile or so, which gives me a good idea of how close a CHP unit is to me.  

there's no major mystery to CHP monitoring, but it does take a little
dedication since trying to monitor a dispatch channel and the mobile talkback
channel at the same time when you try to monitor other things as well (san jose
fire, fire white...) doesn't quite work well, ending up with you missing too
much of the transmission.  aside from this, i think CHP has some sort of law or
something that allows them to confiscate your radio if you are monitoring their
channels and they find out about it when they pull you over.  the only
complaint i have about monitoring the mobile extenders is the "receiver
sampling" (my term for the breaking of the transmission going through the
mobile extenders, since it stops to check at timed intervals for a transmission
from the other half of the mobile extenders.  this allows the mobile unit to
override the dispatcher's transmission and vice-versa.)  this clicking can get
annoying and make the audio signal incomprehensible at times when the radio has
poor audio quality or there's noise around.  if uniden charges more for this
device than a normal scanner, then it's probably a rip off.

greg
From: johnw@bluemoon.use.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: Re: new canadian scanner laws
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 21:09:07 EST

"dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com> writes:

> individuals could be up to $25,000,  corporations 75,000$. And $5,000
> possible to person whose call was intercepted. The changes ".. for the
 
Heeee.... that is a good one!  Fining the VICTIM!   Gawd, and I thought US 
laws were bad.  That one takes the cake!
 

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From: gregs@hotcity.COM (Greg Stramback)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: new canadian scanner laws
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:11:34 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <wH3qVB3w165w@bluemoon.use.com>, johnw@bluemoon.use.com (John L.
Wilkerson Jr.) writes:
>"dan mckinnon" <dan.mckinnon@canrem.com> writes:
>
>> individuals could be up to $25,000,  corporations 75,000$. And $5,000
>> possible to person whose call was intercepted. The changes ".. for the
> 
>Heeee.... that is a good one!  Fining the VICTIM!   Gawd, and I thought US 
>laws were bad.  That one takes the cake!
> 
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i think that he was trying to say that the person who's call was intercepted
would receive $5000 in compensation, not a fine of $5000.

greg
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: HELP! FCC and Cordless Phones.
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:48:09 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

horak@convex.com (David Horak) writes:
> shibumi@joes.garage.com (Kenton A. Hoover) writes:
> 
>>Motorola's cordless phone uses frequency inversion as its 'encryption'
>>technique.  Frequency inversion is not only barely 'encryuption', its
>>trivial to break.  
> 
> Everyone says it's trivial to break, easy to break, whatever.....but no
> one ever seems to KNOW how. I've never seen it posted.  Poeple say it
> only takes $5 to $15 bucks worth of parts, but no one ever says WHAT 
> parts.  Would someone care to post  a schematic/parts list or at least
> say where a cheap kit is available, complete with address?
> 
> David

In the latest issue of MT, there is column that declared December as
cordless phone monitoring month.  In the article, the author gives the address
for a company that sells freq inversion scramble/descramble kits.  I don't have
mine with me, but maybe somebody else does...

Good Luck...

Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: New Uniden Product?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:42:17 GMT
Summary: makes a lousy scanner

In article <1992Dec14.234417.7387@newstand.syr.edu>,
wsmiddel@rodan.acs.syr.edu () writes:

  > ...   Uniden  said the device is not a radar detector, but a sophisticated
  > programmed mobile  scanner/ receiver that responds to radio waves emitted from
  > special secondary transmitters, which have been installed in most highway
  > patrol vehicles recently...


translation: mobile extenders

Uniden already makes a few radios like this -- a scanner
with no frequency display but the frequencies are programmed
in ROM.  You can buy one from ACE, or from other scanner dealers
or truckstops.

One hobbyist brought his radio to our last scanner club meeting and was
very unhappy with its performance.  If you like intermod maybe you
would like one of these.

BTW, it doesn't cover 800 MHz.
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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: scanners
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:47:32 GMT

In article <27996@dog.ee.lbl.gov> mattho@goanna.lbl.gov (Matt Ho) writes:
>In article <1g8545INNpev@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> parkerg@osshe.edu (Greg Parker) writes:
>>Ok, so I'm new to this group.
>>Please forgive if this is a FAQ.
>>What should I look for in buying a first time scanner.
>>What do I tell my wife as to why we should buy one?
>
>I'm an engineer so I tell mine that I'm interested in the workings of it.
>
>>Can I hear cordless phone calls?
>
>Most scanners can pick up 46-49Mhz (the cordless phone freq.)
>
>>Are their modifications (although I would never do it 
>>because it is illegal) so that scanners can pull
>>in cell phones?

It is NOT illegal to modify a scanner to receive cellular.  The
illegality is in the actual listening to cellular, not having
(or modifying) a scanner to do so.  In fact, there are still
many scanners available that do include full coverage of the
cellular frequency band.

Manufacturers still have almost a year before which the new
"cellular scanner ban" takes affect.  During this time the
makers of scanners can continue to produce and sell scanners
which have no limit to their frequency coverage capability.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mellob@cary113.its.rpi.edu (Quasi Modo)
Subject: RE:signal heard on many freqs
Reply-To: mellob@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:46:56 GMT

     I can't tell you what it is but I know it's not your scanner and

	I know it has nothing to do with the storm. I have a Regency

	Z-60 and I get them 24/7 since I bought it 2 years ago.


			Brett Mellor
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 800MHz Trunked Radio System Signals
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:12:10 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Dec18.212636.29009@mlb.semi.harris.com>, rliles@spuds.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ray Liles) writes:
> In our area, all the police, sheriff and fire departments are converting to
> 800MHz trunked systems by GE.
> 
> At the end of the voice transmissions, there is a 4800Hz tone for about 300ms,
> followed by *musical* GE notes with more of the 4800Hz tone.  While I realize
> the musical stuff is there as an annoyance factor for scanners, is the 4800Hz
> tone always present on the end of transmission?
> 
> From what I can hear and detect with a 567 tone decoder, the 4800Hz tone chops
> in and out with the musical tones, unless I'm overdriving the decoder.  If 
> anyone has the exact end of transmission info on the GE systems, I would 
> appreciate it.
> 
> Ray
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Subject: I assume they don't exist?
From: alewalle@anl433.uucp (ames lewallen)
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:55:34 EST
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I have been unable to find any modifications for a PRO-57
realistic scanner.  Does this mean that they don't exist,
or that it's just not worth modifying?

Thanks for any info at all.

Jim Lewallen

alewalle@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler)
Subject: frequency converters experience?
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:32:46 GMT

Hi,

i was wondering if anyone had any eperience in using or
concerning the frequency converters that shift 800 mhz
down to the 400 - 500 mhz level.

thanks
dave
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: BC200xlt mod which one? (answer--sortof)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:10:53 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

thanks for the info Brett.
please keep us informed about your "light mod" and "scan speed" testing.
by the way, i have done the mod on my 2 month old bc200xlt and it was
a total success. the trick is to simply break/cut/remove the 10k SMD resistor
mentioned. worked for me, and at least two others.
take care

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: kenlager@pro-berks.cts.com (Kenneth P. Lager Jr.)
Subject: Leave of Absence
Organization: Pro-Berks Inc.-Reading,Pa..The EMS Specialists.BBS.(215)929-4315
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:47:14 EST

:To All,
:
:        Ken Lager will be not be available until early February 1993.  I
:just wanted to post a Snail-Mail address in case anyone needed to contact
:me.  Thanks and have a joyous and SAFE holiday season.
:
Ken Lager Jr.
:P.O. Box 86
:Bradfordwoods, PA 15015
:^)

ProLine:  kenlager@pro-berks
Internet: kenlager@pro-berks.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-berks!kenlager
From: rrichman@access.digex.com (Ray Richman)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: VCR Interference?
Date: 19 Dec 1992 02:56:00 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
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I've had that same experience before w/My cable system! Actually I'd swear
the freq's change... O'well !  [Nothing like WATCHING one channel While
HEARING ANOTHER <G>!]
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: MaryMac
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:51:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) writes:
: 
: >Does anyone know if MaryMac carries the complete Radio Shack line?  Since
: >they answer their phone "Radio Shack", I'd assume so, but I thought I'd
: >ask here.  I've referred several friends to them to purchase scanners,
: >and all have been happy with the prices and shipping speed, and I'm
: >thinking about buying a few other cheaper items from them to save a few
: >bucks from my local dealer.
: 
: I think they carry most things.  Why not call them up and ask?
: I bought computers from them a long time ago, and have bought 
: other items more recently, like a scanner.  All with happy results.

According to the invoice I just received, they are not a Radio Shack store.
Apparently they have managed to become a Radio Shack, amoung others, retailer.
I expect that RS products are what they sell the most of.

Bill
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC200xlt mod which one?  (answer--sortof)
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:55:49 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

In article <1992Dec16.030157.15547@Princeton.EDU> brett@surfpix.princeton.edu (Brett Borowski) writes:
>Well, I just got the service manual for the 200xlt and I see why there
>has been some confusion about the mod.  In an unmodified scanner, 
>the '!skip' line on the cpu is grounded with the 10k ohm resistor that the
>most popular mod says to cut/remove.  

While doing the mod on my 200XLT (for info purposes only, of course), I
noticed a few other unused lines on the CPU.  Any hints on what those do?

-- 
Louis Koziarz
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