HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.flame.spelling
Subject: Re: Andy the Canadian twat
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:02:52 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Followup-To: alt.flame.spelling
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)

In article <1992Dec18.044635.18892@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, ecl@cbnewsj (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
>As a woman reader of s.c.j, I find the use of the word "twat" in this
>context (and indeed, in any context) offensive, and would ask that
>posters refrain from using it.

It's also atrocious grammar.  The masculine is twit.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: A really important Hanuka question
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:56:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec15.194735.18670@starbase.trincoll.edu> nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:
>For years now we've suffered with those silly multi-colored candles
>from Israel that last about 7 seconds.  And every year I remember
>the orange candles (I think they were made by the Penn Candle Company--
>something like that) that were _candles_.  Last time I saw something
>like them was about 1966.
>


Norman--
The orange candles are sold via mail order from a Jewish store 
located on either Oakton or Dempster Avenue near Crawford, in 
Skokie, Illinois.  

Since I'm about 780 miles from there I cannot check out the exact 
address but if someone who lives in the area reads this maybe 
they will check it out and post the address for you.


Chaim R. Dworkin
chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: dkhaikin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dmitry Khaikin)
Subject: Re: Vijay's Genuine Apology
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:33:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.163129.24073@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucakrvb@ucl.ac.uk (Vijay Bhuchar) writes:
>I just wanted to apologize for posting Messianic 
>literature in SCJ.
>
>I will continue over in the correct forum which is
>alt.messianic and hope that I continue to receive as 
>much mail as I did although hopefully from those of you
>who want genuine dialogue on the topic.
>
>My first article was in a response to a question 
>* What is Messianic Judaism? * I showed you the Daniel 9 
>prophecy which is winning the Orthodox over in their 100's.
>
>My follow ups were in response either to news items or e-mail
>(i.e. you said there was no crucifixion prophecy and I showed it 
>to you etc. etc)
>
>I will get round to sending e-mail enquirers a standard reply soon 
>
>Follow me on alt.messianic and I will show you other proofs of
>Messiahship of Jeez and I will at some point answer the question
>* Why do Christians evangelize Jews? * 
>
>Believe me you think you know the answer but you dont.
>Its got something to do with an unfulfilled prophecy
>Zecheriah 13:8-9.
>
>See you on a.m hopefully 
>
>Vijay

WOW! I can't believe it! WE DID IT! FINALLY! YEEEEEEES!

Oh, and Vijay, happy Chanukkah to you too!

Final bye-bye,
Dima
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  "A word is worth one coin; silence is worth two."_____ The Talmud.
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  dkhaikin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  ( Dmitry Khaikin, Columbus Ohio )
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:14:34 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: The Jewish nose myth

In article <Dec11.231930.43105@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
mk568652@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Mitchell Kotler) says:
>
>Can anyone explain how this myth got started ?

Observation? Semites tend to have larger noses than europeans, thus while
it may be true that all and indeed, maybe not even most Jews have big noses,
in the relatively homogeneous nations of Europe, people who were physically
different tended to be Jews.
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Entertaining suggestions for responses to "Merry Christmas"
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:21:40 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

My standard response is 'Happy holiday of your choice'.

------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Kahane's philosophy
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 06:55:36 GMT

dm = makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
ya = arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens)

[a quote from an interview with Binyamin Kahane in "Chadashot L.A."]
ya: "As far as I'm concerned, kill any Arab who stands in our way, in the
ya: most humane manner possible, causing the least suffering."

dm: What is so bad about that, considering the situation with respect
dm: to his father and his emotions?

me: "What is so bad about" someone whose father who was murdered by one Arab
me: wanting to kill any Arab who stands in his way?  I can't think of
me: anything offhand ...

dm: You are dishonestly using a straw man argument here.

I hope you don't get misquoted in your autobiography.  I'm asking
about something that you said, and you tell me it's dishonest?

dm: The fact of the matter is the Rabbi was killed by an Arab because
dm: he was an Arab.  That this would create an emotional response in his
dm: son seems perfectly normal.  Now, if he would go out and commit a
dm: pre-meditated act of murder against an Arab you would have a case and
dm: I would agree with you.  ut that is not what is being discussed here.

I most certainly understand the anger of the victim's son.  Irrational
views (such as the culprit did it "because he was an Arab") are quite
likely to be found in the victims or survivors of victims of acts of
violence.

However what he is quoted in Chadashot L.A. is about contemplating
premeditated murder.  Now clearly one who contemplates murder does not
not become a murderer unless action replaces thought.  But to ask
"what's so bad about contemplating murder?"?
-- 
/|/-\/-\          Adif tzav pinui metzav shmoneh.
 |__/__/_/    
 |warren@         "WARENS statement in his signature express a Nazi idea."
/ nysernet.org 			    Gideon Ehrlich
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: CPLS13@email.mot.com (Steven_Cohn)
Subject: Re: Question on "Jewish mother = jewish children"
Organization: Motorola_CoveragePLUS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:36:38 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish

In article <1goduqINNje9@morrow.stanford.edu>, aliki@nova1.stanford.edu
(Alexandra Schmidt) wrote:
> 
> 
> Michal asks a good question, and I'll add my own--
> 
> How about the adopted child of Jewish parents?  Does the child need to
> convert (presumably at a later age)?  In the meantime, if the parents
> raise the child as a practicing Jew, does the child have a Bar Mitzvah 
> at 13?  Convert at 12.5?  
> 
> There's got to be an interpretation on this.  I hope I never *need* to know, 
> but for now am curious.
> 
> 			. . .Alexandra
> 
> "I could be sterile.  It runs in my family!" (from 'Singles')

The child is normally converted as soon as the adoption is legal,
regardless of the age.  Even babies are converted in this manner - the
process normally consists of only Mikvah and for a boy also Brit Milah.  It
can, of course be done at any age.


Steven Cohn
Motorola CoveragePLUS Engineering
CPLS13@EMAIL.MOT.COM
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:09:52 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish Joke of the Day

In article <AGW.92Dec14121713@dsm.dsm.fordham.edu>, agw@dsm.fordham.edu (Art
Werschulz) says:
>
>Hi all.
>
>Last night, I saw a Chanukah program on WLIW (Long Island PBS).  It
>closed with Harold Gould telling a true story:
>
>Apparently, when he was around 5 or 6 years old, his parents took him
>to see Santa Claus in one of the local dept stores.  They placed him
>on his knee, and Santa asked him "Are you looking forward to Xmas?"
>
>Gould replied, "No."
>
>"Aren't you looking forward to getting presents on Xmas?"
>
>"No."
>
>"Come on, now.  I saw you looking at all those toys while you were in
>line.  Why weren't you looking at them, if you weren't expecting one
>of them as a Xmas present?"
>
>"Because I expect to get one of them for a Chanukah present."
>
>Santa bent his head down to the lad, and whispered quietly, "A gezunte
>on deiner kopf, yingele."

Not all of us speak Yiddish, could Yiddish speakers please also provide
translations when they append yiddish phrases?

>
>Well, *I* thought it was a cute story.  [Yiddish grammatical flames to
>/dev/null, please.]
>
>
>--
>  Art Werschulz         (8-{)}
>  Internet:  agw@dsm.fordham.edu  ATTnet: (212) 636-6325
>
>  Shalom!  Ani mutatsia shel virus .signature.
>  Ha`atek oti letoch .signature shelcha!
>
>
>
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Assembly line
Date: 20 Dec 92 16:23:46 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)

In article <1992Dec19.053000.23169@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis (Ted Frank) writes:
>I got shanghaied by the Lubavitch two-three years ago in New York.  They
>had set up a "mitzvah van" on the street in the Village, approached me as
>I walked by, got me to go into the van and put on t'fillin, say the prayer,
>and ushered me back out.  They were only stopping Jews, as far as I could
>tell -- I guess I'm fairly obvious.  I couldn't help but be amused by the
>assembly line nature of the process.

Assembly line?  If you want a t'fillin assembly line, you should check
out what they did in Italy when they had a few pairs of t'fillin for up
to a 1000 Russians at a time!  I'm told they did the bare minimum, which
for the shel yad consists of one wrap on the bicep and and one on the
finger.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Righteous Gentiles=Ben Noach
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:39:14 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macl54.bucknell.edu

According to the Talmud,the oldest religion known to mankind is based on
the Seven Laws of Noah.

Several books dealing with this subject are;

       The Seven Laws of Noah
       Path of The Righteous gentile                                       
                
       A Light Unto The Nations

Recently, a law was signed by George Bush enumerating these laws as the
foundation of society.

Numerous groups around the globe have adopted these tenants as their  new
faith.This most often results in gentiles enlisting rabbis since this is
the mission of Israel to spread the Light of the TORAH to theNations.

Unfortunately, this sort of movement makes some Jews nervous not to mention
organized Christianity.Speaking now as a ben noach person I can assure you
that this is true.

But here is the good news according to the Sages ,any gentile who observes
the seven laws has a portion in the world to come.Is it possible that this
basic message has been hidden all these at least two thousand years? It is
clear after re-reading Acts 15 and 23 that the Jews of that time knew what
gentiles are obligated to observe and in no uncertain termstoo.

Work is proceding here and in Jerusalem on the development of a Siddur as
well as the spacifics for the Halacha for Bnai Noach.

some food for thought for any of you who are arm chair kabbilistout there
is the fact that this movement sprang into existance in 5750. If you lay
this year on a millinal time line you will see that date  corresponds to
Friday ,high noon ,the very time when preparation of the Sabboth begins to
take place.how fitting and how beautifull  

Michael Noll
Bnai Noach of Central pennsylvania
1 Cotswold, Danville Penna17821




michael
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Autopsy - Kahane and Rosenbaum
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:37:52 GMT

In <1992Dec14.153631.4965@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

> Well, I no longer have the original so I cannot specifically point
> it out, but it had to do with intermarriage in Israel.

As I did not say that there is no intermarriage in Israel, just very
little, I don't see why I needed to take special notice of it.
-- 
/|/-\/-\          Adif tzav pinui metzav shmoneh.
 |__/__/_/    
 |warren@         "WARENS statement in his signature express a Nazi idea."
/ nysernet.org 			    Gideon Ehrlich
From: jmilikow@csa.bu.edu (jeremy milikow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Tehina recipe?
Date: 10 Dec 92 23:24:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: csa.JMILIKOW.92Dec10182434
Distribution: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department


 If anyone has a good recipe for tehina I would really appreciate it.
I'm trying to make homous but I can't find tehina anywhere. Thanks.

                                           -Jeremy
From: rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Here we go again
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:37:36
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge Mass., USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: underprize.think.com
In-reply-to: jmunch@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu's message of 19 Dec 92 21:58:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.215831.149160@zeus.calpoly.edu> jmunch@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (John Munch) writes:

   Quoting saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal):

   >This is not a call for a moderator, but wouldn't it be nice if these
   >fahkockedeh, fahblunged (sorry my Yiddish accent is not so good)
   >missionaries would just leave us alone....

   On alt.atheism we have a regular posting of a FAQ file.(frequently asked
   questions) Assuming people are polite enough to read it when they first
   find our group, it cuts down on a lot of repetative prostelization. Often
   people really do have a simple question about atheism, so it helps then too.

And unfortunately, the evangelists either never read it or read it and
ignore it (or even read it and decide that it's all the more important
that they do their work).

While I'm still opposed to the idea of clogging mailboxes, I have to
confess to considerable sympathy for the idea.  Alas, there's no door to
slam in their faces.
--
ames >>>>>>>>>  |	Robert Krawitz <rlk@think.com>	245 First St.
bloom-beacon >  |think!rlk				Cambridge, MA  02142
harvard >>>>>>  .	Thinking Machines Corp.		(617)234-2116

Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- write lpf@uunet.uu.net
From: ad980@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul S. Wolf)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Missionary-inundating (Re: Here we go again)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:35:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: ad980@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul S. Wolf)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) says:

>>>A personal note has a much greater impact than a group posting.
>>>472 personal notes from 472 people in one's e-mail box have
>>>an even greater impact.
>>(in making missionaries of various types leave SCJ, that is.)
>
 Add me to the list also. 

Paul Wolf
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:36:10 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: SYRIA: AI delegates to visit

In article <1992Dec14.032608.29342@mont.cs.missouri.edu>, Hilary Naylor
<hnaylor@igc.apc.org> says:
>
>/* Written  7:26 pm  Dec 13, 1992 by hnaylor@igc.apc.org in igc:ai.general */
>/* ---------- "SYRIA: AI delegates to visit" ---------- */
>Amnesty International
>International Secretariat
>1 Easton Street
>London WC1X 8DJ
>United Kingdom
>
>DATE: 10 DECEMBER 1992
>
>SYRIA: AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL VISITS SYRIA
>
>Two Amnesty International delegates are visiting Syria for about ten days in
>order to attend and observe proceedings at trials before the Supreme State
>Security Court in Damascus. Those standing trial are long-term political
>detainees many of whom are prisoners of conscience adopted by Amnesty
>International. During their visit the delegates are not authorized to make any
>public statements and on their return will submit a report to the Secretary
>General of Amnesty International.
From: friedenb@ash.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Rosh Chodesh Tool for Sun4
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:49:54 GMT
Reply-To: friedenb@ash.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University


I found a great utility for the Sun4.  It is called xmoon.
It tells you everything that you ever wanted to know about
the moon, updated every 5 seconds!

It displays the following information in a window:

Julian Date      (a number that I don't understand.  It is in 
                  the form 2448973.10481)
Universal Time   (GMT, I assume)
Local Time      
Moon Phase       (currently 54% - where 0% is Rosh Chodesh (New
	          Moon, and 100% is full moon)
Age of Moon	 (in days, hours and minutes)
Moon's Distance  (in kilometers and Earth radii)
Moon Subtends    (I don't understand this one either.  It is in degrees)
Sun's Distance   (in kilometers and astronomical units - it is 
	 	  neat to watch this number change every few
		  seconds as the sun gets farther/closer to us)
Sun Subtends     (in degrees)

Last New Moon	 (in the form 09:11 UTC 24 Nov 1992) 
First Quarter    ( " )
Full Moon	 ( " )
Last Quarter     ( " )
Next New Moon    ( " )  - VERY HELPFUL FOR ROSH CHODESH

It also has a picture of the moon as it appears in the sky (phase).

It can be found by anonymous ftp at phloem.uoregon.edu under 
/pub/Sun4/X11/bin/xmoon

The program is pre-compiled, and no source code is available at this
site.  You may have trouble if your local mount is unique.

I have it running in X-windows manager.  I don't know about other 
formats.

Enjoy!


Gedaliah Friedenberg
-=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
-=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
-=-Michigan State University


                   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman)
Subject: Re: Why are Jews discriminated?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:20:44 GMT

In article <Dec.12.15.44.34.1992.2720@soliton.rutgers.edu> zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:
>Excuse me if I sound too ignorant, but I always have had this question
> in mind. I came from China. Before I came to USA, I had virtually no
>knowledge about racial relationships. I did hear a little about anti-
>semitism and Nazism and stuff but that's it, not too much. 
>I can understand why this exists racial
>prejudices against blacks, asians etc, because of the obvious difference
>in physical appearances and traditionally blacks, asians and whites live
>in different regions. However, in my eyes, Jews and other whites are of 
>same race(am I wroong here?). Maybe Jews are different from other whites
>in a similar way as Chinese are different from other asians. Now there is
>not such a anti-Chinese sentiment among other asians. There is, of course
>a anti-Japanese sentment because of the war. However, it is
>not nearly as strong as that against Jews. 
>
>Now my questions,
>a) Are Jews and other whites the same race?
>b) if they are the same race to start with, how did they grow apart?
>c) Why, from the viewpoint of Jews, are Jews discriminated? 
>d) Why, from the viewpoint of other whites, are discriminated?
>I know my questions are too unspecific. But because of my lack of knowledge
>in this subject, this is where I have to start with. I would appreciate
>any response. Thank you!

I would strongly recommend, Mr. Zhang, that you seek out a copy of
Dennis Prager's excellent book _Why The Jews?_  Therein he addresses
exactly these questions and more.



-- 
"How sad to see/A model of decorum and tranquillity/become like any other sport
A battleground for rival ideologies to slug it out with glee." -Tim Rice,"Chess"
     Eric S. Perlman 				 <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> 
  Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:05:11 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Skoll and "netiquitte"

Not only is Skoll, the self chosen netiquitte enforcer, repeatedly paraphrasing
other peoples e-mail without permission, he also insists on e-mailing me despit
e the fact that 1)several weeks ago I asked him to stop and 2) I have bounced
 back every message he's sent me since. It is a clear violation of netiquitte
to persist in e-mailing someone who has asked not to receive e-mail, it seems
Skoll prefers to exclude himself from the netiquitte he demands from others.

Outside of sending his mail backto him without comment, I have not e-mailed
Skoll so he cannot use my e-mailing him as an excuse for his continued
violation.

Mr Skoll, please stop sending me e-mail. I don't read it and I don't want it!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen -- [408] 736-3923)
Subject: Re: Warren's sig again : WOMEN ARE VALUELESS
Organization: NetCom -- OnLine Communication Services
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:59:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.133907.24479@cbfsb.cb.att.com> hbb@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (harlan.b.braude) writes:
>In article <3018@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
>>Since placing an umbrella over one's head on Shabbat is like building a
>>tent, is it yichud for two people to whom yichud applies to stand
>>underneath the same umbrella?
>>-- 
>>/|/-\/-\          Mishehi yecholah lifrot li mitriah?
>> |__/__/_/ 
>> |
>>/  warren@nysernet.org
>
>There was a pop music song in the 60's about a couple who shared an
>umbrella at a bus stop. The song implied that doing so led ultimately
>to their wedding. Sounds pretty dangerous! :-)

Especially since the name of that song, "Bus Stop" (by the Hollies),
accuratly reflects the Israeli public-transportation paradigm!
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish STEREOTYPES - the last time
Date: 21 Dec 92 02:04:04 GMT
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848

META000 <META@UNB.CA> writes:

>Having said that, I have to emphasize, however, that in humour,
>context is EVERYTHING.  The same joke told by a rabbi, during a
>sermon, is funny and socially connecting, and when told by a gentile
>person at a Knights of Columbus meeting, can be divisive and
>hurtful.

I would add: laughing at your own pain is humor. Laughing at someone
else's pain is usually closer to cruelty than comedy.

>I have to say that virtually ALL
>stereotypes are based on fact.  There really ARE cheap jews with big
>noses, Chinese who do laundry, arrogant French people, pushy New
>Yorkers, women who can't read maps, and on and on and on.
>Stereotypes are pernicious when the believer excludes all other
>facts BUT the stereotypic ones.  In other words, if I don't
>recognize the stereotype AS a stereotype, then I fall prey to it,
>and maybe make others do so as well.

Yes, well there are also cheap Gentiles with big noses, occidental
peoples who do laundry, arrogant German people, men who can't read
maps, etc. When these things are used over and over again, it's
no longer witty -- it tends to get tiresome.

Sharon  
-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish