HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sala8864@hgc.edu (gustavo salas)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:27:39 GMT

In article <18AUG199215224221@vxcrna.cern.ch> ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP) writes:
>As I said no apology will ever be enough.  And I assume there will be
>suspicion of the Japanese well into the next millenium.  I am also not
>worried about the crazed idiots who will continue to hate and will
>probably be anti-Japanese until they die.  I would just like Japan
>to set the record straight with a proper apology and by providing
>proper education of the history.  In a generation or so, the ranting
>and raving will drop to the murmur level like in Europe.  Perhaps there
>may even be forgiveness.  But nothing is going to happen until Japan
>acts first.
>

Very good point....

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wkg0258@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wakako  Kusumoto)
Subject: Re: Godzilla vs Charles Barkely
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:07:39 GMT
Keywords: a tv commercial

ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:

>    Well folks, there is going to be a series of commercials (in the US) featuring Godzilla vs Charles Barkley. Any bets on who will win? :-)


I saw the commercial and noticed that Godzilla was referred as "he".
I always thought Godzilla was female.  She is a mother of one child, isn't
she?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: lisa@ux1.lbl.gov (lisa stewart)
Subject: Hanafuda game rules
Summary: Need rules in English
Reply-To: lisa@hobbes.lbl.gov
Organization: Information and Computer Sciences Dept. (ICSD)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:57:48 GMT

Does anyone know where I could get the rules to the card game Hanafuda
in English? I've called all over the SF Bay area with no success. 

Please reply by e-mail to:

	lisa@hobbes.lbl.gov

Thanks
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: morimoto@infonode.ingr.com (Michael Morimoto)
Subject: Anime distributors from Japan wanted...
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:13:55 GMT

Hello All:

I'm interested in starting an anime business here in the United States.  I
am looking to hear from anime, manga, toy, and video distributors.  I am also
interested in hearing from existing anime dealers in Japan.  To save 
net.bandwidth, you can reply to me at 'morimoto@irvine.irvine.ingr.com'.  

The general idea is to improve the service and access US anime fans have to
anime goods.  I would like to set up an anime business here in the US which
would legally ship goods from the sources in Japan to us.  We would then 
sell these goods to fellow fans.  In this way, we would handle the retail
side.  Our suppliers would have access to the American market without the
hassles of dealing in a foreign language and without having to deal with
currency exhange.

Best of all, this is a business run by fans for fans.  Since we are paying
wholsale prices for our goods, we can make a profit while still charging
fair prices.  Anime will be our main business, not a sideline to the selling
of books, oriental gifts, toys, video, etc.  We are fans and we will know
our products.  Also customer service and happiness is #1.  We figure that
most of our customers will come from word-of-mouth so, if your're not happy,
we're not happy.

I look forward to hearing from distributors, importers, and anime retailers
and hope that I can learn from you.  To the rest of you stay tuned and thank
your for your indulgence.
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Need recipe...
Date: 22 Aug 92 08:28:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <satoell.920821222808@eng.auburn.edu> satoell@eng.auburn.edu (Ellen Ayumi Sato) writes:
>
>Greetings!
>
>Would anyone have recipe for "okoa" (sp?) -- kind of "pink/light red" rice 
>with some type of bean ?
>
>Thanks for any info!
>
>Ellen.
>
>	satoell@eng.auburn.edu
> 
>B

	What you meant, Ellen, is OKOWA, and actually there are several kinds
	of okowa.  What you want is also known as seki-han/o-seki-han, 
	literally "red rice."

	What you need are;

		sweet rice (mochi-gome)
		red beans (azuki)
		salt
		sesami seeds (both black and white)

	and, since I don't have a recipe here, GO AND RUN to the nearest big
	university library and look for Japanese cooking books.  They should
	have some.

	Sorry and good luck!   :-)

					Tetsuya Nishimura
From: news@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:13:45 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL

In article <3734@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.124608.14760@husc3.harvard.edu> liu10@husc10.harvard.edu (Eric Liu) writes:
>.....
>>  Up till now,
>>Japan has never claimed responsibility for the war and have never showed
>>any signes of repentance for their unforgivable deeds!
>.....
>
>   What is your opinion about the attitude of Japan demonstrated in the joint 
>statement made by the Chinese and Japanese government on September 27, 1972 at 
>Beijin? What is its general acceptance among Chinese people?
>
>   I'm not trying to say that that was enough, but I'd like to know how it is
>evaluated.
>
>Michiaki Masuda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: What about China done to Korea?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:20:38 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:


>I guess this topic(Open whatever) from soc.culture.china and
>soc.culture.japan is getting to soc.culture.korean.^^^^^
>	    ^^^^^Alphabetical order.

>My question:
>	Does it make sense to get an apology from someone while you
>owe someone else an apology? China had done so many war crimes, more
>than Japan did, and Korea has never gotten any apology from China, either
>Main China or Taiwan.  If China feels that the apology for what Japan
>had done to China during WW II is a must, China should feel obligated
>to what she had done to Korea in the long history between China and Korea.
>I am not saying that Japan should not apologize to the Chinese who
>suffered from all those shameful crimes. But China cannot ignore the
>need of an apology to Korea either.

You mean Japan should apology to Korea? Have the Korean got it?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: ibm01@acci.com.au (William Lo - Elvis? I'm!)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: IBM Australia/Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:41:08 GMT

In article <910@hobby.ukc.ac.uk>, mhs@ukc.ac.uk (M.H.Smith) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug19.185119.22497@Princeton.EDU> karchang@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kar Man Chang) writes:
|> >To use a much tamer analogy, if someone mistreated you once, would you
|> >trust him afterwards?  If he apologizes, at least I know that he knows
|> >he did something wrong, and our relationship can probably start all over
|> >again.  But if he doesn't, I will be under the impression that he
|> >does not think that what he did is wrong, that we have very different
|> >standards of opinion, and we may never be able to interact beneficially.

	** This isn't quite the best analogy I suppose. (1) The Japanese hadn't 
"mistreated" us, nor did they - we(our parents and grandparents) were not simply 
"mistreated" - but they'd butchered us, our families, taken away our homes and
belongings. Yours is too tame an analogy and it doesn't seem realistic. (2) "Once"?
Well, IF their evildoings had been just a once-off matter...could you stick a little
bit more to the history?

|> 
|> Tamer analogy? How about fatuous. We are not dealing with an
|> individual but a nation of individuals. Perhaps if we are going to put
|> it in such simple terms how about: if someone mistreated you once
|> would you get your children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren
|> to shout names and invective at his children, grandchildren, and
|> great-grandchildren? Do his grandchildren owe your grandchildren an
|> apology for his actions even if they weren't born at the time of those
|> actions? How about having a blood-feud over the matter -- that will
|> certainly solve all the problems.

	** Be a little deliberate here, mate! 
	When we're asking for written+verbal(heedful - we want both) apologies and
compensations in real terms(that is, money), we're definitely referring to those
from the Japanese gov't(inc. those who were responsible for/performed the killings).
we should base ourselves on a more reasonable, rational and realistic sense.  We
don't and don't have to rationalise things. Justice and truth are just too sacrosanct
to deny.
	Your view of the matter is obviously complicated. You're essentially right I
seriously admit. Prejudice must be eliminated over the killers' children who are
definitely innocent. If you think a blood-feud could ease our pain, you yourself have
stuff up the matter.

---G'day from Australia,
	Bill

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Have some cash
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:49:26 GMT

In article <7084@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
[.. some stuff deleted ..]

About VISA..
# They also don't tell you the YEN value of the charge
# on their statement, or the exchange rate used for the
# calculation. As luck would have it, I did catch a
# mistake that time, but it's not so easy. The reason
# I caught a mistake is that two charges the same day
# at the same store (different departments) seemed to
# have different exchange rates (hence my inquiry as to
# how the exchange rate is calculated), but actually
# there was an entry mistake on one charge. Be careful.

I have a Japanese VISA (from Sumitomo Bank), and on the statements
it tells me the exchange rates and the local denomination used for
every non-Yen transaction.
I see the exchange rates change every day..
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan          [from Japan: doi@dec-j.co.jp]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: buzzsaw@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Elias Campbell)
Subject: Re: Karuna Shinsho
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:55:10 GMT

 As a side note, about a year or so ago TV GUIDE ran the 'Most Attractive
 Woman on Television'  poll. Suprisingly, Karuna got several votes!!

 And if you think Karuna was a bad anouncer, you should see the person who replaced her!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kutner@gokuraku.sfc.sony.com (Mike Kutner)
Subject: Re: New Year's Eve in Japan
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Keywords: New Year's Eve
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:44:20 GMT


In article <1992Aug18.144245.19501@bnr.ca>, therese@crchh588.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Therese McCarthy) writes:
|> Hello--
|> 
|> I will be traveling to Kyoto at the end of this year (after Christmas and
|> through to New Year's) and was wondering what type of typical celebrations
|> for New Year's Eve can I expect in Japan?  Are there any type of gatherings
|> as similar to Times Square in NYC or Trafalgar (sp?) Square in London?
|> This is my first trip to Japan, but I'm interested in spending New Year's
|> Eve somewhere other than a bar/beer hall.  Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?
|> 
 
Kyoto is a great place to be at New Years.

More than simply waiting for the "ball to drop" in Times Square, the temples
are the center of all activity.  Almost all Japanese visit a temple on New
Years eve and New Years day.  You'll see lots of people in traditional formal
wear all over the city.  The area around many of the temples has a carnival
atmosphere, with food stands everywhere.  Some temples serve sweet sake, some
temples have bonfires, many temples ring their bell at midnight.

If you are staying with a Japanese family, look forward to a lot of interesting food seen only at New Years.  Make hotel reservations early, because many people treat themselves to a mini-vacation during this period.  Also, be prepared for cold Kyoto weather.

Have fun!!

					-- mike 
--- 
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		      kutner@sfc.sony.co.jp
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 00:09:29 GMT

In article <SMITTIE.92Aug20160552@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

>Unless some of the netters here are much older than I think, no one here has
>any first hand knowledge of what happened in Nanking. That is, no one
>participating here was at Nanking. Yet many here have very emotional feelings
>about Nanking. That response to Nanking was taught. I am not suggesting that
>someone told about what happened at Nanking and then told you to hate the
>Japanese for it. The lessons in hatred come in through implication. Much the
>same way racist attitudes are taught in some areas of the US.

Most Jews (who still live, anyway) didn't experience Hitler's genocidal
concentration camps.  If they denounce neo-Nazis, do you accuse them of
racism?

Most supporters of Bosnia-Hercegovina had not actually, in person, saw the
Serbian atrocities.  If they denounce Serbia, do you accuse them of racism?

Most blacks had not seen a lynching in their lifetime.  If they denounce
white supremacists, do you accuse *them* of racism?
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From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:46:14 GMT
	<17AUG199211495637@vxcrna.cern.ch> <903@hobby.ukc.ac.uk>
	<ZHOU.92Aug18131137@okra.fnal.gov>
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

>Again, why do Chinese and Koreans hate Japanese ?  Apology itself may not mean
>much, it's simply a gesture and a start. If they don't apologise, the hatred
>will last longer and "seat" deeper.  I think it's only natual that many
>Chinese people hate them after what they have DONE (not said), and not even
>apologizing.  I just don't see the reasoning in your remarks.

Nothing good and nothing right ever comes out of any action that is motivated
by hatred. No hatred is justified though it might be understood. To continue to
teach that hatred from generation to generation is to continue to perpetrate
the problem. The Chinese who harbor hatred will become the problem.

smittie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Learning Japanese in Japan
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:58:46 GMT

In article <HARKCOM.92Aug19094127@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:

>   In some cases, the reasons you suggest seem possible.  However,
>IMHO such cases would be in an insignificant minority.  IMHO the
>most plausible explanation for the majority of such situations is
>xenophobia...

I'd change the word "xenophobia" to merely because of the connotations that 
sometimes are attached to it. I think a lot of it is panic that they (the 
waiter/waitress) feel they will not be able to speak English (though they feel
that they SHOULD, because they studied it for 6 years).

An anecdote: I was in Yokaichi and stopped at a kissaten for coffee and 
cheesecake (worst cheesecake I ever had). It took a while to get the waitress
to approach me, and I overheard her talking to (presumably) her boss about 
her lack of English skills. Finally, she gave me the menu, I ordered (in Japan-
ese), she gave me a big smile, and brought my order. I eat for a while, then I 
want my check. Big problem. The previous waitress has gone off duty, and the
current waitress refuses to approach my table, despite my repeated 
"Summimasen!"s. I sigh, figure out the bill (this was before the consumption 
tax took effect) determined the bill to be 485 yen, left a 500 yen piece and
left. 

About 3 blocks later, I hear this plaintive "Summimasen! Okyakusama! 
Summimasen!" I turn, and see the waitress running at me full-speed. She 
explains that there's a problem with the bill, and that I must return to the
coffeeshop. No, say I, I left money, I needn't return. But, says she, I didn't
leave the right amount of money. But, I exclaim, I left more than enough to 
cover the bill. Of course, she exclaims, now I must get my change. Did you
bring it, I ask. No, she says, you have to come back. Then keep it, I answer.
Oh I CAN'T do that!, she says. Why not, I ask, it's a tip. She gets this 
big smile on her face (probably relieved that she won't have to talk to 
me for the 3 blocks back to the shop), and turns and races back to work.

[various anecdotes deleted]
>   In cases where one is in a shop and the shopkeeper is playing possum,
>one can easily say something like "sumimasen, rousoku ha arimasuka?"...
>And if that doesn't work, a simple "ore no kane iranai no ka? ja hoka no
>mise de tukau." on the way out the door will might shock them back into
>reality...

I usually ask them, in Japanese, if they speak German. For some reason, this 
focusses them on the conversation. I then ask (so far, no one's said yes) if
it's OK if I speak Japanese. Haven't gotten a negative once.

Mike
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI)
Subject: Re: Moving discussion of life in Japan to fj
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:17:45 GMT

In article <GyFcJ.430@reseau.macrofield.or.jp> kenji@reseau.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
 |                                    And most of Japanese Internet domains 
 |only subscribe fj due to the language barrier.

  Most of? If you have any statistical information, please show it to
us (also in fj.news.groups).

Regards,
--
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Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
E-mail: tozaki@nak.math.keio.ac.jp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: sala8864@hgc.edu (gustavo salas)
Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:28:05 GMT


In article <GzqgX@reseau.macrofield.or.jp> kenji@macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
>
>And those peoples are wasting time indulging themselves. I can
>give my personal apology to peoples of offended countries. But I
>don't know how much my apology contributes to erase or to forget
>the past - all we can do is to record the fact and replay it to
>others.
>

Thank you, You can do onething for the people of invaded countries.
There is no doubt in my mind that Japan is trying to rebuild its 
glorious(and also very shameful) past by reenforcing its military and,
meantime, misguiding the public. You can use vote to stop this!!!
Nobody wants Giant Japan with striking force.
From: simon@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Clippingdale)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mimana Theory Revisted (due to the Nara tombs being excavated)
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:01:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

In article <85969@netnews.upenn.edu> dww@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grand master tong) writes:

> In the previous article, Mr.Jung Lee said:
>
> >....Chinese and Koreans are pigs....
>     ^^^^^^^^

No, he didn't. He said:

        To be honest with you, I thought Japanese and Chinese both
        were pigs (excuse my language) when I learned about this
        history facts in my middle school. As I said in my first
        article, I wasn't a good student at the elemental school. 


> Now what did the Chinese do; I can underwstand the Japanese beings pigs
> because of the rape and plunder of KOrea and the alteration of history books.
>
> What DID THE CHINESE DO?????


Maybe they quoted him inaccurately and out of context.


> the master.

Cheers

Simon
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From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:58:06 GMT
	<1992Aug17.172805.675@merlin.hgc.edu>
	<SMITTIE.92Aug17152312@lark.csulb.edu> <Bt5LFE.rx@world.std.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

But Japan has no known facilities for producing any kind of nuclear weapons.
Japan has one of the most active anti-nuclear groups in the world and the Japan
currently have no delivery systems for any kind of nuclear device. The
plutonium in and of itself proves nothing. Plutonium can also be used in
nuclear power plants.

Although, I guess if you're really into finding devious hidden plots around
every corner it is conceivable that Japan has the manufacturing plant and the
delivery systems hidden way somewhere. But then you still have to find the
other offensive systems that would be needed to take advantage of a nuclear
weapon.

Plutonium could be one part of the puzzle but you are sorely lacking any of the
other pieces. Not real convincing I'm afraid.

smittie
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From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.korean
Subject: What about China done to Korea?
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:25:43 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.korean
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I guess this topic(Open whatever) from soc.culture.china and
soc.culture.japan is getting to soc.culture.korean.^^^^^
	    ^^^^^Alphabetical order.

My question:
	Does it make sense to get an apology from someone while you
owe someone else an apology? China had done so many war crimes, more
than Japan did, and Korea has never gotten any apology from China, either
Main China or Taiwan.  If China feels that the apology for what Japan
had done to China during WW II is a must, China should feel obligated
to what she had done to Korea in the long history between China and Korea.
I am not saying that Japan should not apologize to the Chinese who
suffered from all those shameful crimes. But China cannot ignore the
need of an apology to Korea either.