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From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:20:12 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

My choices are:

  1) Honda 125cc 5-cylinder GP Racer       (unfortunately, none of these are 
                                            believed to still exist)

  2) Brough-Superior SS100                 (preferably one of the 7 or 8
                                            owned by T.E. Lawrence)

  3) Moto Guzzi 500cc V-8 GP Racer         (to give my Ducati something to
                                            look up to)

  4) Honda NSR750 oval piston 4-cyl "V-8"  (`The' supreme example of state-
                                            of-the-art Japanese technology)

  5) Harley Land Speed Record holder       (triple the DoD nominal speed!)

--
H. Marc Lewis                 |  Phone: (509) 927-5480
ISC-Bunker Ramo Corp.         |  e-mail: marcl@hela.ISC-BR.COM
22425 E. Appleway Ave.        |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!hela!marcl
Liberty Lake, WA 99019-9534   |  "Nature bats last..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lawrence@msc.cornell.edu (Lawrence H. Smith)
Subject: Looking for a 'hack (sidecar)
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Distribution: ny
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:22:04 GMT

(begging your pardon if this posts multiple times. It appears to be
going into a black hole, not posting...)

I seek a sidehack. Actually, I seek three wheels for winter, but
sidehackness seems more attainable than ServiCarness, and more
registratable/drivable than those things that consist of a VW
engine and rear attached to an overloaded fork off of a 350cc
bike.

So, if you know of a rig hanging out in a barn looking for a new
home, point the owners in my direction. Serious pre-consideration
goes like this:

BMW /2 or /2 conversion, sidehack, earles fork. will consider
chassis in need of motor. Will consider many things, actually.

Sidehacks other than the above. Not really looking for 'wing sidehack,
though. But I'll probably look at them if they are in my areas of
shopping. I suppose I'd look at those 'wing two-wheel rear-end things
too, if anyone's trying to sell one.

Harley ServiCar, chassis in need of motor may actually be preferable,
and more attainable. Unfortunately these are inherently even older
than the /2 beemers, and I'm not looking so much for "collector value"
as function. I think it'd be nice to have a FOM for my winter rig, but
I'd rather not pay through the nose for the thing.

Things in need of work are obvoiusly acceptable. Things in need of work
priced like things that run are not. Things that run are acceptable, but
seem less likely to be available. Sidehacks not in a rig will be
considered, but somewhat less, as they will involve the hassle of getting
a bike to go with, or (gaack) trying to convert the current moto to
sidehack duty. the latter is rather troublesome, as it has no aftermarket
to speak of, so getting an earles fork probably means having one fabricated
from scratch. Of course, it _would_ also mean I could go shopping for a
new(to me) two wheeler in the spring, since I have no intention of trying
to convert from one to the other once I get a sidehack rig set up.

Where I'm shopping. Unless it's _really_ _really_ tasty, I'd like to stick
with things 1)within ~100 miles of Ithaca; or 2) close to either of the
reasonable routes from Ithaca to Williamstown MA; or 3)Within ~100 miles
of Williamstown MA; or 4)possibly along the way from Ithaca to Lake Placid
(either 3 or 28, etc). 5) Also, semi-close to White River Junction VT could
work; 6) Could be towards/around Bethel ME, (old home area), but that's
beginning to push it a bit. However, I recognize a need to keep the area
fairly wide in order to find anything.

I'd appreciate any references you come up with. The papers are devoid of
anything along this line. Answering machine is at (607)272-6746.
--
-Lawrence Smith, MSC Computing Staff - Cornell Univ., Ithaca, NY
 lawrence@msc.cornell.edu lawrence@crnlmsc2.bitnet (607)255-6064
-Cats, Coffee, Chocolate... Vices to live by. DoD# i

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: Drilling my own discs
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:56:11 GMT
Summary: Carbon disc applications

In article <153.2AD7ACF8@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
> Saturday October 10 1992 15:09, Robert M. Button wrote to All:
> 
>  RMB> (see gyroscope). So...as far as carbon-carbon brakes are
>  RMB> concerned...they are first of all lighter material than steel...but most
>  RMB> importantly...their high heat characteristics allow for much greater
>  RMB> force to be applied by the pads.
>  RMB> ..or something like that.
> 
> Yes, yes, thats obvious, but since you really can't answer my question,
> why'd you bother taking up bandwidth in the first place.

He has the right idea when he says "high heat characteristics" of
the carbon discs.  The savvy motorcyclist knows that sooner or
later, there'll come a time when the predicted temperature isn't
anywhere near as low as reality at the campsite-for-the-night.
Instead of freezing slowly to death and fantasizing about that 
Motel-6 100 miles back down the road toward civilization, the
shivering cyclist simply removes the carbon discs from the bike,
places them on a convenient rock, whips out the 'ol phaser and
nukes 'em up to about 400c.  Ah, toasty tootsies!

I know this works, because I watched Wesley Crusher do it on
"Star Trek, The Next Generation".

Chuck Rogers 
car377@druhi.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleve
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:30:12 GMT

In article <1bf0v9INNs4c@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>|> Seeing as Harley basically sells it's entire production NOW, how is
>>|> it going to sell more bikes by building sport bikes?
>>
>>  Increase capacity ??  Make even more money ???  Nah....too simple.
>
>Nah... too stupid.
>
>increased capacity != more profits
>
>- capital costs
>- retraining
>- retooling
>- quality maintenance on current production
>- new sales and distribution network (probably)
>- alienation of current customer base
>- increased R&D

+- piss off loyal customer base


>Peterbuilt should build sports cars?

No. 

>Boeing should build hang gliders?

No.

>Pepsi should produce beer?

Hell yes, if they're going to put it in vending machines.

>

-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
 "Garth, marriage is punishment for shoplifting in some countries."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: amy@spiker.b11.ingr.com (Amy Spiker)
Subject: Re: Customizing bikes (Was: Silly engine swaps)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:30:17 GMT

In article <viking.718436740@vincent2.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
|> 
|> 	Some of us prefer to have our ride be very different from the
|> universal offerings out there.  My CB750K is from Honda, and there is
|> little doubt it can be told from any other Honda.  Come to think of it,
|> most people have problems identifying the make, let alone the model.
|> 
|> 	And no, this isn't a penis-thing.  It's just a matter of
|> expression.  If you want to drive a machine similar to any thousand
|> out there, that's your perogative.  As for me, I'd rather have a
|> bike I can tell at a glance no matter what company it sits in.
|> 

Amen to that! As they say down South "sometimes you don't want to see
yourself going the other way."

		Amy Spiker
		Email: amy@spiker.b11.ingr.com  Or swint@ingr.com
		82 Virago 920 + sidecar (TheMoped)
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bikes Retaining Value (BMW vs. Yamaha)
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:16:14 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) writes:
]My friend bought an '85 in really good condition this June for $2800.

how many miles?

]You BMW guys should quit while you're behind. You're not making a very
]good case here. Great bikes, but cheaper in the long run than an FJ ?

you FJ guys seem to think that we need to stop at 10 years. let's not 
stop there. let's go back a little bit to the early 50's, 40 years.
will your FJ be worth 50% of its purchase price *40* years from now?
I know where you can get a mint condition '53 250cc single cyl BMW
(sorry don't remember the model #) if you've got >$5000 in your pocket.
huh? the FJ decomposed ten years earlier? ok, how about 30 years?
wanna buy a '63ish R69S for $4000? I don't know what the purchase price
of those BMW's was back when they were new, but I'll bet it wasn't
two or three times what they're worth now. if having a bike that's worth
more than what you paid for it in 40 years is being behind then put
my butt in last place please!

]I think not . . .
 ^^^^^^^^^^^
ok, so we've established that you don't think... :-)

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:36:38 GMT

In article <Bw4x9B.570@mail.boi.hp.com> edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh) writes:
|svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
|: In article <1992Oct12.234554.13398@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
|: |
|: |It also does a drunken weave when I ride it at in-town
|: |speeds after an hour or so at 85+.  Probably due to
|: |shock fade.  This is with Fox shocks and springs that
|: |are probably a bit too soft.
|: 
|: Hmmmm.  My Concours does this after a half hour at DoD
|: speeds.  Are there other explanations?  How would a
|: single shock cause a weave?  I have wandered about this.
|: 
|: Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
|
|My FJ used to do this...about a 1~2 Hz. oscillation when slowing down in town
|after long straight fast cruises. Getting rid of the stock front tire fixed
|it (I now have a ME33 Laser up front). My theory is that local heating
|in the center band of the tire changed its profile slightly, and probably
|also its stickyness such that the more dynamically stable position was off
|to the edges, rather than the center, and it would hunt between the two sides.

This makes some sense.  I also know that it's never happened after a
fast, twisty ride, only after straight rides.  Even when the twisty ride
probably heated the tires up just as much as straight.  (Hi Randy!)

I'll find out, as I am about (this weekend) to change my tires from the
OEM Dunlops to Avon sport-touring radials.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:51:55 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dean Cookson (dbc@po.cwru.edu) wrote:
: In article <BD.92Oct12135536@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice
: Dowaliby) wrote:
: > What do Brits say, "I hope I get the chance
: > to shoot someone today?"
: 
: No, they say, "Gee, I'd like to shoot they SOB that's trying to mug
: me with a knife but the government, my mommy, says it knows that I'm
: not responsible enough to own a handgun.
: 
: | Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
: | Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
: | "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
: | can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |

Now then children, don't get upset.  We can't all have the crime rates and
violence you seem to revel in, can we?  If you think it's smart or sensible to
own a gun then I severely doubt ypur sanity.  What are you all going to do?
Shoot each other in the hope that you pull your gun out first?  Paper, Stone,
Scissors etc.  What do you do if he has a gun?  Pull out your atomic weapon?
Get real, idiot!  If everyone has guns, then violence escalates like in your
dear sweet country you call Bedlam^H^H^H^H^H^Hhome.  I am afraid that you are
not living on The Frontier, anymore.  You are supposed to get on with and 
_live_ with each other, not ignore and kill one another.  Tut, tut, tut.


Nick (the pacifistic Biker).   MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Walther PPK

"So shoot me!"

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Commentary on SuperBike magazine
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:21:14 GMT

I just wanted to post that I think most Brit magazines, and especially  
SuperBike, are great.  I subscribe to Motorcyclist here in the States, but go  
out to the newsstand to hunt down Fred Gassit (the dog) religiously.  This mag  
in particular supports just the right amount of irreverence and self-parody  
appropriate to the medium, as opposed to the endless product specs and  
self-adulation.

Does anyone over there wanna help me get a Gassit T-shirt?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: WANTED: Helmet
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: SALE BUY WANTED HELMET
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:38:42 GMT

Ok folks, looking for a helmet for the various female passengers that
are pining away to ride pillion with me (currently borrowing as needed).
Should be medium or a small large (wow, an oxymoron!), preferably red,
full face a necessity, hopefully a recent model. Not willing to spend
over $200, since I can get a brand new RF200 for that price anyway.


-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
 "Garth, marriage is punishment for shoplifting in some countries."
From: pazar@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Steve Pazar)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:54:40 GMT
Subject: adding a kick-starter???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Fellow motoheads,
  This MAY be a dumb question, but has anyone heard of a kit that allows
  you to add a kick-starter? I'm getting tired of dealing with battery
  problems with my mount (see sig). Also, I have always had this wierd
  feeling that REAL motorcycles have magnetos and kick start. Kinda 
  sich, huh...

***************************************************************************
*  STEVE PAZAR           DoD #702           Kawasaki KZ440A
*  E-mail:   pazar@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com
*  Ether:    WA4DUT/6
*  " Imagination is more important than knowledge "
***************************************************************************
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:17:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <BvpIrp.JsF@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>
>I'll betcha the stats show something like this:
>
>    CrotchRockets == ManyMoreDeathsThanHarley == NotCoincidence
>
  The Hurt study found no significant difference in incidence of death
or injury due to brand, type, or style of motorcycle.  Plenty of people
get squished riding Harleys.

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| Dave Tharp                      | DoD #0751   | "You can't wear out       |
| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!) (really DoD pets)
Keywords: cager,asshole
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:24:06 GMT

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

>Yeah, but dogs stick by each other when there's trouble, they *love*
>to go fast and get bugs in their teeth, a lot of 'em like to ride on
>bikes

My old labrador liked to go for short rides, but he never did get the
hang of countersteering.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Did you say dual-compound?
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:00:19 GMT
	<1992Oct9.131118.26966@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>There is no time manufacturer call "Spitfire".  That is a model 
>designation of a Bridgestone tire.

Hey yeah, I have a bridgestone spitfire on the back of my CB750F, I got
about 9,000 miles on it so far, it has just begun to get squared off and
it's gripp has changed slightly but noticably over the miles. But I
consider it one great tire and am planning to replace it wiht the same.
It has lasted well through long touring, and spirited, WFO, part
dragging, speed star, rides. The only thing I am cautious of is rain.
While it still holds well, it is a huge difference, beacause it does not
have a plethora of rain grooves.

Later
NADZ
DoD #528
Ride now
Ride hard
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: walking bike (Was: Re: The Dead Battery Problem)
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 05:55:33 GMT

labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>: (Along the way I learned something they didn't tell us in the MSF class -
>: you can't walk a motorcycle from the side the way you can a bicycle.  If
>: you try, it will fall over.

Range Exercise 2, Part A covers walking the motorcycle from the side.

>	thing several times. A 700 S NH is sorta heavy for me (140
>	lbs). Just be sure you put your kick stand down, dismount, lift
>	the bike to centerline, raise the kickstand with your right
>	foot and then walk it very carfully. I have found that placing
>	your hand under the leftside grip and pressing up can help to
>	balance the bike if you let it lean towards you just a little.

I think it is just a matter of getting used to it.  I would say you
should probably let it lean against your hip so that you don't drop it.
I'm <140 lbs and 5' 5.5" (gotta get that .5 in there :-) and this is the
only way I can move my PD if I'm not riding it.  I can't touch both feet
at the same time when I'm on the bike and the one foot that does reach
the ground only does so with the toes.  I try not to stop too often. :-)

Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Keywords: cager,asshole
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:13:22 GMT

In article <4899@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
}I'm confused,  he pulled in front of you and stopped.  Why isn't this
}'failure to yield the right of way' on his part?   Did you hit a side
}or rear panel?    Was he blocking your lane sideways?, in which case he
}would be at fault.

All he has to say is "I thought I saw a cat." Then he has a valid reason
to stop, and the person behind shouldn't have been following close enough
to hit him. (Me, I would have said "I thought I saw a dog"; I might
just speed up for a cat).

A friend of mine in high school decided he was going to test those
newfangled auto-locking seatbelts. I asked him how he was going to
arrange to do that at 14 years old just taking driver's ed, and he
said, "You'll see." The coach instructing him came back that day
ashen-faced; my friend had waited til he had clear road, yelled
"Coach -- a cat!!", and locked the brakes at 55 mph....

He said those seatbelts lock up real good.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Did you say dual-compound?
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:26:13 GMT

In article <16156@mindlink.bc.ca> John_Greer@mindlink.bc.ca (John Greer) writes:
>The duel compound tyre is made by Spitfire and as how good they are I don't
     ^^^^
Are we backing off 20 paces before we turn and accelerate at each other,
  or what ??    The world wonders.

>know but the idea is right, long lasting centre and sticky sides.
>
>--
>John Greer@mindlink.bc.can
>85-FJ 1100
>DoD #0260             A.I.M. #001078530
>Jason Greer DoD #0260.5


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:37:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Parking law
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio) writes:

> The managers here now are preparing to issue a three-day notice to have
> the motor scooter removed, otherwise they will terminate my tenancy.  However,
> the California Mobile Home code says that termination of tenancy can be done
> for a continual breaking of a "reasonable rule" of the park.
 
If they are planning on removing the bike themselves, let them.  Video tape
it.  Then get them busted for theft.  You could offer to drop charges if
they change the rule.

If they are "merely" planning to evict you, find out about the rules covering
this.  Last I heard it took 2 or 3 months to go through the full eviction
process to get someone out.  You could live there free, with the scooter
the whole time. 

Frank Ball   1UR-M          frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard   	    (707) 794-4168 work  (707) 538-3693 home
1212 Valley House Drive     
Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999  KC6WUG Seca 750 XT350 IT175 DoD#7566 I'm the NRA.