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From: David@fquest.FidoNet.Org (David)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Arms, or lack thereof
Date: 3 Dec 92 19:55:34 GMT

Hello from Bjalfi!

A little while ago I got into a conversation with someone about changing
registered arms for something both simpler and more appropriate to that
person's time period.  I got to thinking: my arms (lozengy sable and or,
a pile issuant bendwise from sinister base gules) really have very little to
do with my persona.  I toyed briefly with the idea of repositioning the
pile in an earlier style, and then I got a weird idea.

The idea, which I'm not sure what to do about yet, was "Hey, if I want my arms
to be consonant with my persona, I ought to withdraw them and not re-register
at all--after all, 11th-century Norsemen didn't _use_ arms for
identification!"
I'm not a fighter, but if I were, I would then put things on my shield which
didn't look like armory: little bosses or metal plates or whatever.  I don't
need a badge to identify my stuff--I scratch, paint or sew my name in runes
on my belongings.

I guess my question is, does anyone have anything to say to encourage or
discourage this practice?  Why should I have arms at all?  If you think I
should keep arms, either the ones I have or others, why?  If you think I
ought to give up my arms and not take new ones, why?  If there's something
basic I'm missing here, what is it?
From: Earl.Faubion@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Earl Faubion)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 5 Dec 92 15:25:32 GMT


 -=> Quoting Marv Cotton to All <=-

 MC> This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems
 MC> to have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.

I suspect there are several such as myself who silently read the mail,
posting only when there's good reason.

Earl
From: Diane.Pilkington@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Diane Pilkington)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Senior heralds
Date: 4 Dec 92 19:58:06 GMT


 -=> Quoting Tim Of Angle to Diane Pilkington <=-

 TOA> Senior Heralds quite often have strange wants ... as *you* 
 TOA> should know by now....

 Yeah, I've been hanging around senior heralds too long.
 I think it's starting to rub off on me, because I have
 this strange desire to spend New Year's Eve working on
 the OP. (I also have a desire to bash my computer to
 bits, but I don't think that's strange at all.)

 Serena


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From: Bruce.Tomlin@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bruce Tomlin)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Dec Populous meeeting
Date: 7 Dec 92 18:22:00 GMT


 > Why on mediavel and not on Local SCA?
 >         Anter scanning both on usage by the local populous ,
 > mediavel had more of the locals commenting on a more frequent
 > manner , so i thought the word would get out quicker that way.

Please don't in the future.  It is impolite to post messages of only local
interest on nationwide echos for two reasons:  people are paying to send the
messages around via long distance phone calls (even if it adds a half-penny to
the cost, that is multiplied by the hundreds of connections involved) and
secondly because it just adds to the "noise level" and is inconvienent for the
non-locals to have who wade through messages that will never be of interest to
them.

And just because people don't post in a message area, that doesn't mean they
aren't reading it.  In fact, there's even a term for it:  "lurking".  It's a
quite honorable pastime.  :)

Yours in binary service,
Da Sysop.

P.S. "Populous" is an adjective meaning "a lot of people live there", while
"populace" is a noun that refers to the people themselves.
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 1STDAYS
Date: 7 Dec 92 03:52:00 GMT

MO>Sorry  about that.  We have new people leaving messages and we are
MO>working to get them to leave messages in the right area.  When I replied
MO>I did not even think about the area I was in.  Again I will get the
MO>problem straightened out.  Thanks.....

MO>mike


 No problem Mike.
   Later, Marv

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From: Berwyn@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Berwyn)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Persona's married name
Date: 3 Dec 92 05:04:11 GMT

My seneschale has asked me to check into this for her.  Her name was
registered waayy back when.  Her husband's just passed this February.  She
wants to change her name to reflect the marital status, ie.

Alys of Lynnecorree, married to Jan-Friederich van Schaack, now wishes too
become Alys van Schaack of Lynnencorre.

Will she have to submit a new action for this?  Will she need extensive
documentation, as the husband's name is registered?  Is there a problem with
a French lady married to a Dutch lord?  She says she was told (By whom I
don't know) that she would have to wait till Jan's name appeared in the
armorial.  Is this true?  I don't have the updates, so can't check to see if
its there.  I would think if she could reference the LoAR it would suffice.

Oops, typo up there.  Lynnencorre is correct spelling.  I hate this editor.

Thanx

Berwyn
From: uunet!pucc.Princeton.EDU!U5984%WVNV@fquest.FidoNet.Org (uunet!pucc.Princeton.EDU!U5984%WVNV)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Device Advice Request
Date: 5 Dec 92 18:52:36 GMT

Good Gentles,
     I am not a member of your estimable order or your list, but when I heard
a
bout you on the Rialto, I hoped that you might be able to advise me.
     I live in a rather backwater region of the East, and finding a herald to
s
peak to in these parts is tricky to say the least.  I've been involved in the
Society for six years now, and while my name is registered, the arms I carry
are not, and I'm unsure as to submit them or whether they would be acceptable.
     My device is blazoned thus (I think); Pean, a goblet or bearing a cross
bottonny azure and overflowing argent (that is to say, streams of silver water
flowing out of it). Is good?
     To whom in Aethelmarc should I send my submission?  How much will it
cost?
Does it take very long?
     Please forgive my ignorance, but when one lives in the hinterlands, one
develops blind spots.
                                                 With warm regard,
                                                 Morien MacBain
                                                 Misty Highlands
From: Linda.Davis@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Linda Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 7 Dec 92 17:43:18 GMT

MC>  This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems to
MC>  have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.
MC>  Also any suggestions or tips?
MC>    Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator

Hi Mary! Well I am here in Nova Scotia and have just started to get this
message base. I am looking forward to seeing more in it. I have just
started with FidoNet. If I can help with anything in this part of the
continent please ask..

Linda....

 ~ OLX 2.2 ~ And now, a brief musical interlude
From: Christer@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Christer)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Appelgarth
Date: 3 Dec 92 15:17:00 GMT

Fairfax asked if Applegarth, home of Merlin in The Last Enchantment by Mary
Stewart should is protected by our rules.

I'm not sure as i haven't read the book. From what you say it neither is
"peculiarly" ascoiated with Merlin, a "plays an significant role in the
action" or "appears in more than one part of a series" which is three
clauses of the Locations from Literary Sources rule in the Administrative
Handbook.

        Lindorm Eriksson <christer@Sue.KOMunity.Se>
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:25:00 GMT

EP>+----------------------------------------[ Quoted from Marv Cotton ]---+
EP>| This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems   |
EP>| to have subsided I would like to know how many participants we       |
EP>| have. Also any suggestions or tips?                                  |
EP>|   Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator                                          |
EP>+------------------------------------------------------[ End Quote ]---+

EP>Hi Marv...

EP>We just started to carry this Echo here...

EP>Emmett

EP>--- FreeMail 1.05c2
EP> * Origin: The Byte House BBS * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2)
EP>(1:18/2)

     Glad to have you Emmett.
       Marv

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From: Allan.Hitchmoth@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Allan Hitchmoth)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Poll Message
Date: 10 Dec 92 02:20:00 GMT

** In a message on 04 Dec 92  21:01:00 to All,
** Marv Cotton said:

MC->   This is our annual poll message.

Penacook, New Hampshire here. (I ain't no MENSA so let's just DO IT)!
From: Stovall@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Stovall)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: bards?
Date: 6 Dec 92 11:54:14 GMT

Would Steeleye Span, June Tabour, Battlefield Band, et al fit
in this category? All of the current folk-rock bands of the
British Isles do some traditional stuff. We get a two-hour radio
program, once a week (KPFT, 90.1, Houston, Tue, 8pm) that is
mostly folk music of the British Isles.
I generally tape the program as it's VERY hard to find this type
of music at your local record store. At any rate, that's my two
cents worth: I'm gratified that someone besides a few hardcore
folkies like this stuff too.
                             Keep warm,
                                      Tom
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 9 Dec 92 02:36:00 GMT

BH>A message from Marv Cotton on 12-04-92 to All included this:

BH>MC> any suggestions or tips?

BH>I share with you these thoughts re the use of on-hand technology to quickly
BH>return home missing/abducted children.

BH>I am intrigued by a concept consisting of these elements:

  Bob, thanks for the Tips, excuse me for reducing your original
  message, but it would have been difficult to read my replies.

   Your assumptions about missing/abducted children moving by surface
   transportation is good.  We took the same assumption when searching
   for Heidi.  The idea of Fax is good to a point.  The DPI on a fax has
   to be such that it is difficult to get a picture you can copy and
   post flyers on, though it can get the police moving.  I have been
   going on the assumption that GIFs distributed through BBS's can give
   better distribution, direct calls and file transfers to strategically
   located BBS's can distributed a flyer in a short time.  Of course the
   turn time in creating the GIF flyer is about one hour if your people
   are in place.

     We have distributed 542 GIFs so far in this particular effort.  I
   totally agree on the 800 number and the computer and retail networks.
   Another way to distribute flyers is through trucking companies.
   Truckers have proven very receptive to distributing flyers of
   abducted children as they drive their routes through the country.

     Are you on FIDO net or INTERNET?  I would like to get in touch with
   you and discuss these things more.

    Thanks for the thoughts and please post more.
       Marv

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From: Mark.Eric.Stein@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mark Eric Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Anyone know name and number of eastern senechale?  Thanks--
Date: 6 Dec 92 19:33:34 GMT

Depends on where in the East  you're enquiring. I don't have a Pikestaff
close at hand, but if you'll let me know the last known location of the folk
you're interested in, I can get you in touch with the senechal/e of that
group....

Yrs &c.
        Marco
        Lord husband and loyal slave to the Chatelaine Beyond the Mtn., EK
From: Robert.Jackson@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Robert Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Poll Message
Date: 6 Dec 92 03:01:02 GMT

** In a message on 04 Dec 92  21:01:00 to All,
** Marv Cotton said:

MC>   This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo
MC> seems to
MC>   have subsided I would like to know how many participants we
MC> have.

Present at below listed BBS...
From: Stephen.Whitis@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Stephen Whitis)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Titles
Date: 6 Dec 92 09:26:00 GMT


 David Lyle wrote to Lady Guinevere, saying...

> LG> Then Guinevere it will be.  I came about that  name
> LG> from the King Arthur's legends and I had a BBS called
> LG> King Arthur's Castle BBS.  I didn't like the name Queen
> LG> Guinevere and I don't like putting myself on a
>
>don't worry about it... only the SCA people will give you a
>hard time for using a title in your name... the rest of us
>are more casual and friendly about the whole thing.
>"Titles, we dun need no steenken titles!"

David doesn't like the SCA, or anything associated with it, and therefore
takes every opportunity to accuse us of whatever.

There is no reason you can't use Lady Guinevere on the BBS's, including
this echo.  But since you were expressing interest in the SCA, people have
been explaining how the SCA works.  That's what the echo is for, explaining
things and learning.  No one is trying to give you a hard time, despite
what David says.
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From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Misc. nattering
Date: 7 Dec 92 13:23:55 GMT

SW> So Stellar Scroll and Sable Scroll are (heraldicly speaking) the
 SW> same thing?

No. I could, however, be wrong about that... I *thought* it was Margaret, but I
don't pay as much attention to administrivia epheralis as I used to.
From: Brian.Rueger@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Brian Rueger)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 6 Dec 92 14:16:00 GMT

A message from Marv Cotton on 12-04-92 to All included this:

MC> I would like to know how many participants we have.

MC> any suggestions or tips?

It might be productive, Marv, to share with your correspondents the results of
your poll, so that we've a better grasp, demographically, of the audience
reached via this echo.

As my first message on the echo - to you - indicated, I'm acquiring the echo
via a state-operated bbs.  That is to say, I requested the Sysop of the bbs at
a state university to "turn on" the echo.  (Frankly, now that students - and
non-students, for it'
s a public access bbs - have the opportunity to acquire the echo via this
Illinois university, it'll be interesting to see what evolves.)  Indeed, you
may wish to use the opportunity to post a "purpose" message, which will be read
as a "new message" here
 by anyone tapping the echo for the first time.

I take this opportunity to also point out (underscore, actually) that I
communicating with you via a Macintosh.  Undoubtedly you immediately surmised
that when my first message to you made mention of HyperCard, which my
"home-grown stack," "RSVP" employe
s as an off-line email reader, quoter and writer.  Having said that, I draw
your attention to the fact that in the Macintosh environment the popular,
alternative file compression program is "StuffIt," which generates files having
a ".sit" suffix.  (I'm n
ot so close to the "cutting edge" in this field that what I believe/say should
be considered authoratative.  Still, in the Mac software echo, "StuffIt" is a
program frequently cited.)  What I'm laboring to convey is the thought that
such data as you've c
ompiled - be it text or graphics - should be available in "Mac-compatible" file
form to assure you able to comm with that not-insignificant segment of the
expanding email community. 

And I rush to underscore that Mac files can coexist on the same storage device
as those for MS-DOS users.

My regards,
Bob Houseman

---
RSVP v. 1.1i <an email HyperCard stack!>
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 9 Dec 92 01:47:00 GMT

EP>+----------------------------------------[ Quoted from Marv Cotton ]---+
EP>| This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems   |
EP>| to have subsided I would like to know how many participants we       |
EP>| have. Also any suggestions or tips?                                  |
EP>|   Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator                                          |
EP>+------------------------------------------------------[ End Quote ]---+

EP>Hi Marv...

EP>We just started to carry this Echo here...

EP>Emmett

EP>--- FreeMail 1.05c2
EP> * Origin: The Byte House BBS * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2)
EP>(1:18/2)

  Glad to have you Emmett.
    Marv

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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 9 Dec 92 01:46:00 GMT

PM>MC>  This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems to
PM>MC>  have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.

PM>I read faithfully! :)   Could the slow down of traffic have anything to
PM>do with the holidays?  As horrible as it sounds, many people interested
PM>in many public service things, seem to leave that "thing" behind at
PM>Christmas time....


PM> * SLMR 2.1 * Hello, I am part number ||#||||#||#||#||


PM>--- WM v2.05/92-0059
PM> * Origin: (1:2202/0)

  I think you're right.  Thanks Peggy,
     Marv

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From: Mike.Andrews@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mike Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Music?
Date: 8 Dec 92 19:56:48 GMT

MG>Do you happen to know where I can find any dance tapes?  I have a
MG>decrepit copy of the Iron Mountain Dance tape and I would like a
MG>better
MG>one.  I would also like other dance tapes, and dance books, know
MG>anywhere I can find any?


MG> * OLX 2.1 TD * iT's HarD tO tYPe WHilE HolDiNG a cAT!


Greetings from Michael Fenwick of Fotheringhay.

I have various other dance tapes, as does HL Vashti (Ruth Woodring);
as I produced a period music radio program for 8.5+ years and now run
a period vocal/instrumental consort, I have an **_EXTENSIVE_**
library of vinyl, CD, sheet, and reference works.

There are many other dance tapes out there e.g., some from East
Kingdom, some from H.L. Vashti, etc., etc.
You might try a general call in rec.org.sca.


You might also give me a phone call.

Michael Fenwick of Fotheringhay (Mike Andrews)
SnailMail: 429 Dakota, Norman, Ok. 73069
home voice-only: (405) 364-0270
My employer doesn't direct my thoughts. Wonder who does ... .
From: Josh@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Josh)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Heraldic discussions on the rialto
Date: 3 Dec 92 15:59:54 GMT

Greetings from Arval!

Folks, there's been a drift of heraldic discussion onto the Rialto lately.
Some of it belongs there: Carolus' question, for example, deals with the
relation between the College of Arms and the rest of the Society, and
is certain to be of interest to many people.  However, we've seen
discussions of small points of rules and evidence, requests for conflict
checking, discussions of electronic ordinaries, etc.  Most people on the
Rialto have no interest in those topics, and that's exactly why we created
this mailing list.  Let's try to keep the technical discussion here, off
the Rialto.

        Arval.

===========================================================================
Arval Benicoeur                                       mittle@watson.ibm.com
From: Bob.Houseman@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bob Houseman)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 6 Dec 92 14:16:00 GMT

A message from Marv Cotton on 12-04-92 to All included this:

MC> I would like to know how many participants we have.

MC> any suggestions or tips?

It might be productive, Marv, to share with your correspondents the results of
your poll, so that we've a better grasp, demographically, of the audience
reached via this echo.

As my first message on the echo - to you - indicated, I'm acquiring the echo
via a state-operated bbs.  That is to say, I requested the Sysop of the bbs at
a state university to "turn on" the echo.  (Frankly, now that students - and
non-students, for it'
s a public access bbs - have the opportunity to acquire the echo via this
Illinois university, it'll be interesting to see what evolves.)  Indeed, you
may wish to use the opportunity to post a "purpose" message, which will be read
as a "new message" here
 by anyone tapping the echo for the first time.

I take this opportunity to also point out (underscore, actually) that I
communicating with you via a Macintosh.  Undoubtedly you immediately surmised
that when my first message to you made mention of HyperCard, which my
"home-grown stack," "RSVP" employe
s as an off-line email reader, quoter and writer.  Having said that, I draw
your attention to the fact that in the Macintosh environment the popular,
alternative file compression program is "StuffIt," which generates files having
a ".sit" suffix.  (I'm n
ot so close to the "cutting edge" in this field that what I believe/say should
be considered authoratative.  Still, in the Mac software echo, "StuffIt" is a
program frequently cited.)  What I'm laboring to convey is the thought that
such data as you've c
ompiled - be it text or graphics - should be available in "Mac-compatible" file
form to assure you able to comm with that not-insignificant segment of the
expanding email community. 

And I rush to underscore that Mac files can coexist on the same storage device
as those for MS-DOS users.

My regards,
Bob Houseman

---
RSVP v. 1.1i <an email HyperCard stack!>
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: 09-10-92 (00:20) gifs
Date: 9 Dec 92 02:38:00 GMT

GN>Hello there Kristal!

GN>In a Ditty of <Thursday December 03 1992>, Kristal Andes says to Eric Lode:

GN> KA>      I have two files CHILDMIS.ZIP and CHILDFND.ZIP which are
compresse
GN> KA>    text files containing the list of all of the children we have
GN> KA>    distributed GIFs on and those that have been found.  I would be
happ

GN>Actually Kristal, that was a rather old message, but besides that, for any
GN>usenet/internet users, the gifs are stored on halcyon.com (IP:
192.135.191.2
GN>available for ftp and the file names are converted to ascii text files,
that
GN>are not in zipped format, with the following names of:

GN>003-CHILDREN-FOUND-LIST
GN>003-CHILDREN-LOST-LIST

GN>Unix allows file names longer than 8dot3 and by having the file name start
GN>with 0 and being in caps, it makes the names show up at the top of the list
GN>of gif files while doing an ls -l (which is equivelent to dos's dir
command)

GN>Catch Ya Later!

GN>Greg

GN>... The telephone will ring when you are outside!

GN>--- GoldEd 2.41 B1125+
GN> * Origin: S'Qually Holler's BBS - Let's find a child TODAY! (Fidonet
GN>1:343/34)

  Hi Greg.  Thanks for filling in the blanks. (-:
    Later, Marv

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From: Mark.Eric.Stein@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mark Eric Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: sca heraldic cliches
Date: 8 Dec 92 20:39:58 GMT


 D> Mea culpa. I typoed that line... I meant to say _non_ 
 D> heralds do not know that...
 D> *Sigh* One of these days I will be a touch typist 
 D> instead of a touched typist...

Ah....sorry. I recant the rant. Although, it's so rare that I get to rant
freely these days, that it feels _good_ when I do. I guess I'm just a sick
puppy sometimes.

And you'll always be a bit tetched, Dathi, that's why we keep you around.

Yrs &c.
        Marco
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:26:00 GMT

ED>Hi Marv, you said in part..............

ED>MC>    This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems
to
ED>MC>    have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.

ED>       The Tele-Forum Network in Columbus Ohio carries your conference,
ED>       and is at least read by the Sysop.

ED>Peace...........................Ed

ED> * SLMR 2.1a #1852 * Your religion is what you do when the sermon is over.

ED>--- WM v2.05/92-0698
ED> * Origin: The Tele-Forum Network, Columbus,OH (614)471-9185 (1:226/540)

  Great, thanks Edward.
    Marv

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