From: r2d@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (richard.del monaco)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Why I cannot vote Democratic
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:45:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep4.191310.29338@fid.morgan.com> joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.162659.4219@cbfsb.cb.att.com> r2d@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (richard.del monaco) writes:
>
>But Florio didn't explain or apologize for raising taxes - he was arrogant.
>He only became more approachable after his party lost big-time a year ago.
>I looked at state spending between 1980 and recently and it was growing
>at 50% FASTER than cpi inflation. And then he raises taxes.
>Just where does this money go? 
>

If state spending was rising so fast during the 1980's it seems logical that
this was a result of Tom Kean's (the Republican governor 1982-1990)
administration.

Normally a person is not apologetic when they believe that they have not
done something wrong.  Florio believes he did the right thing.  I agree
with him and you do not.  As far as his arrogance is concerned, it's a
problem that he must live with--it doesn't bother me much.

>>Governor Weicker of Connecticut had to introduce a state income tax.  
>
>I have friends in Ct and Weicker is not well liked. Something likea
>10% of the entire state went and demonstrated against him. Think of 
>that 10% of the entire states' population went to Hartford.
>

So he managed to satisfy 90%!  Seriously, I'm not sure of your point.
Of course what Governor Weicker did was unpopular.  Does this necessarily
mean that it was a bad decision?  Shouldn't leaders who pursue the common
good rather than base policy on the weekly polls be lauded?

>>Don't you get the feeling that this is a national and not a state problem?
>
>Its bigger than that....when state revenues dropped, the states raise taxes.
>What do private people do when their income drops? They cut back. What do
>corporations do when their income drops, they cut back. But not government. 
>That is *exactly* the problem and its a national problem.
>

So why did state revenues drop?

By the way, just to clear things up, Florio cut a lot of state spending in
addition to raising taxes.  Do you remember the uproar caused by all those
state employees?  Keep in mind these jobs were all created during the
Kean administration.

>I'm plenty aware of what it means to me - I live in a county that has the
>second highest property taxes in the UNITED STATES (Money 1/92, pg 72-73).
>Higher than Palm Beach County, Beverly Hills, Fairfield Ct, etc.
>

The Republican legislature cancelled the homestead rebate.


I'm deleting most of your platform for governor.  Please don't take this
personally.  (Actually, why don't you run?)

>3-Anybody on welfare for more than a year would have 1 year to get a job or
>  lose welfare. Anyone who can't get a job calls my office and I will give them
>  jobs, in public service. There is PLENTY for them to do.
>  The same would be true for unemployed people. Lets get them to work.

This is not so radically different from Governor Florio's welfare reform.


>>Ask yourself these questions.  Under the Republican legislature has your
>>income tax rate gone down?  
>The one Florio DOUBLED is still active. Where does all this money go?
>All the lottery money, toll money, casino money, income tax money,
>sales tax money, fees/services money - WHERE DOES IT ALL GO?
>

If you want to know where it goes why don't you ask the Republican leaders
of the legislature?  Obviously they didn't see fit to repeal the entire
tax package when the Democrats proposed this.

Actually Florio didn't double the tax rate.  He doubled the rate only on
the amount a married couple makes over $70,000 a year.  If you and your
spouse earn $100,000 a year, your rate went from 2.5% to 5% only on
$30,000.  This has to be one of the fairest tax increases ever enacted.

>
>>Have the Republicans passedinitiative and referendum?  
>No...I resent that also. The Democrats bottled it up when they were in
>power and now the Republicans do the same.
>

Remember, however, that I&R is a Republican plank.  The Democrats may have
been bottling it up but they have never endorsed this as a party.  Didn't
your Republican senator and assemblymen campaign on a pledge to enact I&R?
I know mine did.  Do you know what they did when it came up for a vote?
All three voted against it.  Do you know what I'm doing next year? I'm
voting against them.

By the way, Governor Florio now supports I&R.

>>Seems like Florio's not the only one breaking promises.
>They are both pretty bad. I may vote Libertarian in NJ this year.
>Our current government feels it does us a favor by helping us. No thanks.
>After all, 'that government is best which governs least'.
>

:^)

>>Richard Del Monaco		rdelmonaco@attmail.att.com
>>Somerset, New Jersey		    r2d@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
>>I support Florio for governor in 1993.
>
>
>Joe Collins
>joec@morgan.com
>I will work hard to see Florio and other tax/spend politicans ousted in 1993.
>

Just remember that this includes the Republicans both in Trenton and
Washington.  You must be really angry with George Read My Lips Bush!


Richard Del Monaco		rdelmonaco@attmail.att.com
Somerset, New Jersey		    r2d@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
I also support Clinton and Gore in 1992.
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