From: pavlovic-milan@yale.edu (Milan Pavlovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Sharon's at it again.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:43:19 -0500
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In article <1992Dec21.161837.2948@unixland.natick.ma.us> sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg) writes:

>I find it rather sad that someone attending a prestigious institution of higher 
>learning in America would dispute that right.  
>
>I'm not going to start getting into the numbers game, and
>start getting into a debate over Who Suffered More in Yugoslavia In WWII.
>A huge percentage of the Jewish population in Yugoslavia was murdered by
>the Ustashi in World War II, Milan. Maybe the numbers were smaller than
>the numbers of Serbs that were killed in Yugoslavia, but that's only because
>the number of Jews was smaller to start with. Will you not even agree with
>me that Jews suffered terribly in World War II, also?
>
>I asked a serious question, Milan: Why do the Serbs claim to be so threatened
>by the Bosnian government, seeing echoes of WWII all over again, yet the
>Jewish community does not, when both suffered at the hands of Nazi
>collaborators in WWII? If there is indeed the spectre of the Ustashi rising
>again in Bosnia, then I do not understand why the Jews do not oppose the
>Bosnian government and Bosnian independence, too. 
>


  I agree with you that "ethnic cleansing" and the other crimes are very bad, 
and I condemn it no matter what side it comes from.  What you fail to realize, 
though, is that all these bad things are not just characteristic of Serbs, but
of Croats and Muslims, too.  Recently there were 200 Serbian women used in a
Bosnian-Muslim -pardon the pun- whorehouse.  No one has heard of it and when I
tell people about this, they laugh and think the Serbs are just making things
up.  No one ever takes us seriously because we don't have a big time PR firm,
and aside from that Milosevic is a big liar.  I just hope that commie loses
the elections today.

  You certainly have the right to ask me why the Serbs fear a revival of WWII
fascism in B&H, while the Jews don't.  For one thing, there are very few Jews
in Sarajevo and in B&H in general.  The Bosnian govt. has pampered them in
order to get good PR; they have managed to fool gullible people like yourself.

  What I'm saying is that Serbs have been discriminated against in B&H during
Izetbegovic's govt., and in the past few decades also, while the Jews haven't
because there are so few of them, that they don't present any threat to 
Izetbegovic's autocratic government.

  Have you heard of Vuk Draskovic?  Have you heard of Vojislav Seselj, leader 
of the so called "chetniks"?  Both of those men are Serbs who were exiled from
Bosnia in the 1980s precisely because of the vehement anti-Serbian 
discrimination atmosphere.

  One closing thought - Alija Izetbegovic, according to the B&H constitution,
was to be president for 2 years maximum, and now it's someone else's turn, 
because it's a rotating presidency.  The power hungry Izetbegovic, however, 
has not yielded power to someonce else - in other words, he's a dictator,
just like Hitler.  And tell me, Sharon, why are the:

1.President of B &H
2.Foreign Minister of B&H
3.UN Representative of B &H

all MUSLIMS, if there are 18% Croats in B&H and 33% Serbs?  Shouldn't at least
one of these positions lie with a Croat or a Serb?  Yes, you know it should,
but it won't because of one word: D I S C R I M I N A T I O N

Happy Chunucha (sp?).

All the best,
Milan

P.S. It's too bad good old Shamir lost the elections this summer, and that 
loser Rabin took his place.  Not only is Rabin anti-Serbian, but the idiot
can't even deal with the Palestinians (Shamir had a good, firm policy with 
them).  I hope Israel will come to its senses and replace Rabin before he loses
any of the territories that were painstakingly liberated from the Muslims by
the Israeli army.  Long live Shamir!