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From: mtang@black.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Mingqing Tang)
Subject: Re: European Parliament Resolution on Tibet
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: worldwide
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:55:15 GMT

This resolution is absolutely absurd from the title down to each single word.
How could a European Parliament have any "Resolution" on a non-European 
"country" Tibet, not to meantion Tibet is a legal part of China's territory.

As for the reservation of the identity of Tibetan culture and language as well
as the religion, dear Herrshaft European Parliament: I regret that you forgot
to do one worthful thing during your visit in China: exchange one Deutch Mark
for some Chinese money bills. On each Chinese money bill, the value as well as
the bank that issued the money bill is clearly marked in official Chinese 
language and Tibetan language as well as a dozen other languages of minorities.
On one money bill, a distictive dressed Tibetan woman stands with other nationals. And now take a look at a one dollar bill, if you happened to have one in
hand. Did you find any Spanish, German, French or other languages? And "In God
we trust". Then where's the respection to other regigions people who also use
this dollar bills? Is the American government willing to add "Namo Amida Puldha" besides "In God We Trust"?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: Xin1 Nian2 Kuai4 Le4 , Wan4 Shi4 Ru2 Yi4
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:05:09 GMT

cunxiao@dec5240a.ccs.northeastern.edu (Cun Xiao) writes:

>Nah. Without any sexual discrimination, roosters do look glorious, full of
>energy, offensive, deffensive. If they are bullied by some one, they will
>bravely fight and even to death. It is a very good metaphor.

Well, you have your point and reminds me something. When I was young, I trained
my rooster by a mirror. Poor thing, it could not recognize itself in the mirror.

>If you say CHICKEN, who know what it is. A meat loaf?

How about KFC?
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:32:28 EST
From: <YUL@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test

This is a test
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: 100th birthday of Madam Sun
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:53:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.162031.1443@zip.eecs.umich.edu> joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.150329.29166@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> wang@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Gang Wang) writes:
>>Great Era (b073766@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk) wrote:
>>
>>: Today is the 100th birthday of Madam Sun (Sun, Soong Ching Ling).
>>
>>
>>: Great Era.
>>
>>Great lady.
>
>Why?

because she's probably among the very few in both KMT and CCP continue
to follow Dr. Sun's guidelines after his death, both KMT and CCP brasses
should ashamed of their infighting and power grabbing since then.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuming@cs.sfu.ca (Yuming Hu)
Subject: Re: Travelling to China
Summary: A travel document is needed
Keywords: Help Needed
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:15:46 GMT

> >Hi,
> >
> >	My one year old daughter was born in US, and we are planning to send 
> > ....
> >
> >	(1) If she needs to apply a passport, how long it usually will take
> >to get one from Consulate General in NYC ?
> >	(2) If a passport is not necessary, what kinds of documents she will 
> >need ? (We know that she may not be able to get a visa by using US passport)
> >
> >  ....
> >	All helps are appreciated,
> >
> 
> No, you got it all wrong. Your daughter IS a US citizen.
> Bring your daughter's birth certificate and two (or three) color photos taken
> from a certain angle to the nearest post office. Fill out some application
> forms for the US passport. Submit a certain amount of applicaiton fee.
> Wait a few weeks. As soon as you get the US passport, bring it to nearest
> PRC consulate in US for visa (touring, visit, ...), pay some fee, then 
> you'r ready to bring your daughter back to China.

I have been in such a situation before. Two years ago, I sent my son
beck to china, though my son had a us passport and we were landed
immigrants of Canada, my son failed to get a visa from chinese consulate,
because I held a public affair passport. However, my son got a travel 
document (costs 12 canadian $ at that time), which allowed my son to stay in
china and exited china within one year. Now return to the original question,
if you are green card holder and your daughter is us citizen, you can get
visa from chinese consulate, which allows your daughter to stay in china
within three months. After that, you need to extend your daughter's visa
in china every three months and I do not know that there are  any limits on
extension. If you are not greed card holder, then your daughter can only
apply for a travel document, which has the essential same function as the 
chinese passport. This travel document will allow your daughter to stay or
exit china within one year. Beyond one year, the situation could be 
complicate. Good luck. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: CHINESE ROCKET SHROUD BREAKUP CAUSED LONG MARCH FAILURE
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:49:24 GMT

xzhao+@CS.CMU.EDU (Xudong Zhao) writes:

>Could it be the case that Hughes did it for the insurance money or to get another
>order of satelite? Just a thought.

This thought is too wild. But which company insured this flight? Dares it do
this later? Poor insurence companys, not many people can understand them.
This reminds me of hurrican Andru (sp?).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com 
Subject: Re: Help on English translation of...
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:38:20 GMT

In article <7091.9301221538@subnode.bradford.ac.uk> 90908648@bradford.ac.uk writes:
>
>yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>
>
>>Nobody in the world, but us created this product.
>>Nobody in the world, but us makes this product.
>
>What about:
>
>Nobody in the world, but US created this product.
>Nobody in the world, but US makes this product.
>
>We must be talking about the PATRIOTS!!
>
>>:-)
>

If "nobody in the world", then who is "us" or "US"?
From: zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:33:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

This is a test!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:43:52 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Delays of SCC articles at my site...
Distribution: usa

>From: phsjjc@emory.edu (James J. Cen)
>Subject: Delays of SCC articles at my site...
>Date: 27 Jan 93 05:27:49 GMT

>The SCC articles appearing at my site are about 5 days old.  Have others
>experienced the same problem lately?


         Your site  is much faster than others.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: tian@ece.scarolina.edu (Ming Tian)
Subject: Re: help on installing the "gb2ps"
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:58:27 GMT

zhao@fermi.nsrl.rochester.edu writes:

>Hi, there:
>	I tried to install the "gb2ps" to my VMS system, I ftped the
>"gb2ps.exe" file, but couldn't find the required font file "csong24.plib" 
>to run the "gb2ps.exe". Can anybody tell me where to get it?
>	Thank you in advance.

Please post your assistance here. Thanx a lot.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiaoyu@grumpy.SSC.GOV (Xiaoyu Li)
Subject: Re: FWD: CND Books and Journals Review, January 24, 1993
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:28:31 GMT

CND Books and Journals Review wrote:
> Written during the age of political anarchy and social decadence known as
> "The Period of Warring States" (5th-3rd centuries B.C.), the TAO TE CHING
> addresses problems...

"The Period of Warring States"??? So Dr. Johnny, who was younger
than Lao Zi and once paid him a visit and asked for advices, must be
living in "West Han Dynasty" period. :-)

-- 
Xiaoyu Li
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From: deng@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Deng (temp))
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 20:25:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Xin1 Nian2 Kuai4 Le4 , Wan4 Shi4 Ru2 Yi4
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china

In soc.culture.china, gtd033a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dedy Tando) writes:

> 
>         To all the chinese and non-chinese, ACS and non-ACS, blaa.....
> 
> 
> 
>   HAPPY    CHINESE        CHICKEN           NEW           YEAR        !!!!!!!!
> 
>  
> 
> 
  Rooster!?  Hen?  Coak? ...
  ^^^^^^^
From: ZHUP@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Test
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:06:20 GMT
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston

Hi, everbody

This is just a test. Please ignore it!


Peter
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cunxiao@dec5240a.ccs.northeastern.edu (Cun Xiao)
Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Graham and the "super babies"
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:25:29 GMT

>In <C1FnoI.Inv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neptune) writes:
>
>   I was watching T.V. and saw a small segment which talked
>   about a particular genetics professor, Dr. Robert Graham
>   who collects sperm from Nobel prize winners and other
>   Geniuses and allows women who want super babies to use
>     the sperms he collected.
>
>     So far his program has been extremely successful.  Some
>     of the babies he had produced using these sperms
>     are already about 10 years old now and a large number of
>     them are Geniuses.
>
>     I wonder if China has a similiar program set up to create
>     super babies?  I think this is very important in the 
>     long term strategic sense for a country's future.  Because
>     if you look at history you will see that just a handful
>     of geniuses can drive and change the course of an entire
>     nation's history.
>
>     Just think about it.  Why do you think Europe had managed to
>     master technology whereas all of the other civilizations had
>     not until very recently?  I think it had a lot to do with
>     the few geniuses of Europe such as Pascal, Newton, Liebnetz, etc.
>     just to name a few.
>
>     I know that China has a lot of very smart people.  But I wonder
>     if China has ever produced any spectacular geniuses comparable
>     to the geniuses of Europe?  My guess is no.


As far as I know, no genius in Europe is from a super baby.
So I don't see your argument makes sense.

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Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:57:49 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang)
Subject: Re: 100th birthday of Madam Sun
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:41:57 GMT

In article <93Jan27.154627est.126@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.ed
u (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
>also her other younger sister Ai Ling
                 ^^^^^^^

younger?  i think Ai-Ling is the oldest and Mei-Ling is the youngest, while
Madam Sun is in between.

correct me if i am wrong.

  * christine *
From: wang@apache.dtcc.edu (Wang Gang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: SFLS mailing list
Date: 23 Jan 1993 14:19:39 -0500
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dtcc.edu

This is to all the Shanghai Foreign Language School Alumni:

Here is a mailing list I recently collected. Please make every efford to
amend and/or distribute. 

Thanx.

--wang

[in alphabetic order]

cspas154@sus.eur.nl             Cai; Ye
chen_w@cc.denison.edu		Chen; Wen Tao
lyd@wam.umd.edu			Dong; Yao (Leon)
rleihe@acc.haverford.edu, 	He; Lei
huang_y@cc.denison.edu, 	Huang; YiBo
hua.ji@dartmouth.edu		Ji; Hua
x_ke@acad.fandm.edu,            Ke; Xiaoming
qli@husc.harvard.edu		Li; Quan
yli@reed.edu			Li; Ye
amymi@wam.umd.edu		Mi; Yong Mei
wang@apache.dtcc.edu            Wang; Gang
xwang@ug.cs.dal.ca		Wang; Xin Lei 
wu_j@cc.denison.edu		Wu; Jian Ming
xi95y16@acs.wooster.edu		Xiang; Yi Feng
zhao_c@cc.denison.edu           Zhao; Chen
a228zhuc@cdf.toronto.edu,       Zhu; Chen Zhong
jzhu@knox.bitnet		Zhu; Jun


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yul@jeff-lab.QueensU.CA (Lei Fu)
Subject: test
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:41:46 GMT

test
From: hpan@hila.hut.fi (Huachen Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Living costs in China
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:24:56 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <1993Jan21.210322.26535@news.acns.nwu.edu> carl_@nwu.edu  writes:
>In article <C17w4A.2yE@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>> >...
>> >When i asked my formal classmate in Shenzhen, his
>> >response is: 10000$/year is only half of his income...
>> 
>> Few days ago, a taxi driver in Shanghai told me that he eraned about 
>> $20,000/yr. "I will retire in a few years, after I gain enough money.
>> ". He is only in his 30s(I guess from his appearance).
>
>This is actually a problem in current China. A taxi driver can earn $20,000 a  
>year while most teachers can only make $200-$300 a year.
The figure is out of date, Carl. A teacher at least can get Y200 a month if
the exchange rate is 7 then it is over $340 a year. The estimation is quite
conservative. Primary and middle scholl teachers can get lots of extra money
by giving different kind of 'training classes'. 
As for university staff, especially engineering guys, the extra money can
surpass the norminal salary+bonus. In 1989, the staff in our university
had already achieved that situation. I think the situation now can only
be better. I think my life in 1989's China is not so bad because we only
spent less than half of our income to buy foods and cloths and other expenses
while enjoyed a almost free apartment. Someone said that the only happy side
of the life they have in the West is hot bath and car. I already installed
a water heater in China in 1989. So the rest of the difference left is only
car. 
H.P.
 

>
>Carl
From: gliu@iti.org (Guo Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Efficiency of CCP, 2/3 failure
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:00:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
Reply-To: gliu@plasma.oz.au (Guo Liu)
NNTP-Posting-Host: plasma.physics.adelaide.edu.au

In article <llot2hINNagf@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
> In article <1993Jan18.175033.4254@arizona.edu> (Raymond Man) writes:
>>
> We have most advanced space technology, we can launch satellite,
> But,.......
>

   Taiwan's efficiency is HIGH -- its 3 dollar umbrelas shoot UP every time.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mrynders@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Maurice Rynders)
Subject: new stamps?
Keywords: stamps
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:16:17 GMT

conerning the (pretty nice) stamp highlighting the arrival of the year
of the rooster: Let's see if we can somehow make the US postal service
stamps in the coming years as well. This yera's stamp seems to have
become a success, so why not. The other reason is that American might
find out more about the East-Asian culture, to the benefit all all of
us.
Who has ideas as to how this may be achieved?

Greetings,
MCR 1/23/93
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Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana 47405  
(812)855-9709 (office)  (812)857-6799 (home)  (812)855-6616 (fax)  
		e-mail: mrynders@ucs.indiana.edu
		         "20/20, 4U2!"   
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From: mece2az@rosie.uh.edu (Sun, Xiaohua)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: new stamps?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:51 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
Keywords: stamps
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <C1BHB6.KJH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mrynders@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Maurice Rynders) writes...
>conerning the (pretty nice) stamp highlighting the arrival of the year
>of the rooster: Let's see if we can somehow make the US postal service
>stamps in the coming years as well. This yera's stamp seems to have
>become a success, so why not. The other reason is that American might
>find out more about the East-Asian culture, to the benefit all all of
>us.
>Who has ideas as to how this may be achieved?
> 
>Greetings,
>MCR 1/23/93
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Maurice C. Rynders, Department of Visual sciences, School of Optometry, 
>Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana 47405  
>(812)855-9709 (office)  (812)857-6799 (home)  (812)855-6616 (fax)  
>		e-mail: mrynders@ucs.indiana.edu
>		         "20/20, 4U2!"   
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
 One way to achieve this is to buy and tell your friends to buy those stamps.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jie@erl.MIT.Edu (Jie Zhang)
Subject: We Appeal Dr. Zhao Haiqing to Come Back!
Reply-To: jie@erl.MIT.Edu (Jie Zhang)
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:52:10 GMT




	Appeal Dr. Zhao Haiqing to Come Back !

     We surprisingly learn that Dr. Zhao Haiqing resigned as the
Chairman of CCSA lately.  We have been trying to find the stories
behind and talking with other Chinese students who follow the news
more tightly.  It seems there are not OBIOUS and CLEAR reasons for
which Dr. Zhao has to stop serving us.  From all available articles
in the net, we only read a few words such as "power", "integrate",
"leadership" and "IFCSS".

     This situation catches our great concerns and worries!! Chinese
student and scholar activities, including the Protection Bill, need
many people to be involved and to sacrifice, like Dr. Zhao Haiqing
and other officials in IFCSS.  Dr. Zhao Haiqing, as one of unique
leaders in our community, made tremendous efforts in working on various
issues during last three years, particularly the issue of Protection
Bill.  We will never forget the time, the career, the money, ... he
sacrificed for us!  Clearly, at this time, we need to "integrate" more
people like Dr. Zhao Haiqing to work on the issue of the Protection Bill
more intensively as you all are awared.  We strongly appeal Dr. Zhao
Haiqing to come back!

     We understand, IFCSS need more attention from CCS as well as "power"
and "leadership".  However, this is not the right time and right issue
to gamble!  100,000 Chinese students and scholars are watching, so is
history!


     Some Chinese Students and Scholars at
     Massachusetts Institute of Technology
     Cambridge, Massachusetts
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The Efficiency of CCP, ?? failure
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:18:13 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: world,local
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin


According to Electronic Engineering Times on Jan. 25, 1993, page 78:

Cashing in on the China Boom
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One chronic problem is the industry's inefficiency. Estimates are that 
as many as state-run companies operate 110 TV production lines in
China to turn out about 11 million color sets a year. "Four or five
healthy companies would be enough to handle that volume of production,"
the source said.
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Thus the efficiency in this case is better than 1/3. It is 5/85.
No wonder there is too little profit.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: CHINESE WORD PROCESSING
Keywords: IBM, CHINESE, WORDPROCESSING
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:40:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1jt81qINNcc1@titan.ucs.umass.edu> pang@titan.ucs.umass.edu (H.K. Pang) writes:
>what exactly were you trying to offer to the world of chinese word processing?

I'll try to offer as much as possible if you can tell me what you would
like to expecting from Chinese word processing.  Thanks in advance.

-- 
Want to write in Chinese on PC?  Get dngdng12.zip from 130.49.2.61 in
directory /pub/incoming.  With it, you can post in Chinese too.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Subject: Tao De Jing (Was Re: FWD: CND Books and Journals Review ...)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:01:29 GMT

    In post <1993Jan25.172831.8674@sunova.ssc.gov> (25 Jan 1993) Xiaoyu Li
writes,

> CND Books and Journals Review wrote:
>
>> Written during the age of political anarchy and social decadence known
>> as "The Period of Warring States" (5th-3rd centuries B.C.), the TAO TE
>> CHING addresses problems ...
>
> "The Period of Warring States"???  So Dr. Johnny, who was younger than
> Lao Zi and once paid him a visit and asked for advices, must be living
> in "West Han Dynasty" period. :-)

    There are scholars who don't think the Tao De Jing was exclusively
written by Dr. Older (as said in Shi Ji).  They believe the book was
compiled at the beginning of the Period of Warring States.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.china
From: Huachen Pan <hpan@hila.hut.fi>
Subject: Re: need help
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:54:50 GMT


mail to soc.culture.china@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (hope it is correct)
is one of the way.
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