HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jwm@alma.tcp.raleigh.ibm.com
Subject: Re: cross-posting test
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:58:37 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.13 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: sergeona@wmavm1.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina


As usual, another test.


John
From: wcs@rainier.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: Who am I this time?
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:56:38 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


sig follows, maybe.
From: richf@comet.base.bellcore.com (Rich Farenci)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: Test
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:45:16 GMT
Reply-To: richf@cosmos.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research

just a test
From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: another
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:30:07 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T Bell LaBORatories, Hunchbacks Division

gnus-use-generic-from "anchor.ho.att.com"
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#Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.ho.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
# Trickle-Down Economics: Giving money to government bureaucrats 
#	and hoping some will trickle down to the people who need help.
#5
Newsgroups: nj.test
From: jwm@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: another test
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:37:01 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: jwm@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research


Another test
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: <None>
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:41:18 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

This is not a test!


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Kirk Membry

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From: rbthomas@saturn.rutgers.edu (Rick Thomas)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: test
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:27:55 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Rutgers Engineering Supercomputer Lab

test
Newsgroups: nj.test
From: jwm@alma.tcp.raleigh.ibm.com
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:15:51 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.13 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: sergeona@wmavm1.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research


test
From: bc@egret.base.bellcore.com (Bill Cooney)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: Test 123
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:29:40 GMT
Reply-To: bc@leis.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research


Test 123
From: wcs@wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart wcs@anchor.ho.att.com)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: Re: Who am I this time?
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:25:47 GMT
	<WCS@HACKER.HO.ATT.COM.92Sep29015615@rainier.ATT.COM>
Organization: Your typical phone company involved in your typical daydream

another one, maybe better
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#Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.ho.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
# Trickle-Down Economics: Giving money to government bureaucrats 
#	and hoping some will trickle down to the people who need help.
From: wcs@rainier.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart wcs@anchor.ho.att.com)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: Re: more gnus
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:01:55 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Random Organization Name Generator

In article <WCS.92Sep29021057@rainier.ATT.COM> wcs@rainier.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart wcs@anchor.ho.att.com) writes:

   Newsgroups: nj.test
Path: cbnewsh!cbnewsh.cb.att.com!wcs
   From: wcs@rainier.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart wcs@anchor.ho.att.com)
   Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
   Distribution: nj
   Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:10:57 GMT
   Sender: news@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (NetNews Administrator)
   Nntp-Posting-Host: rainier.ho.att.com
   Lines: 1

   more gnus.

ARRGFH!  Why won't it get teh domain right?  Much less the .sig!
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: garbage
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:37:22 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

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From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: test
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:50:06 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

Testing
Newsgroups: nj.test
From: wcs@rainier.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart wcs@anchor.ho.att.com)
Subject: more gnus
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:10:57 GMT

more gnus.
Newsgroups: nj.test
From: bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Subject: test
Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering Co., NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:03:57 GMT
From: ccoombs@pilot.njin.net (Cliff Coombs)
Newsgroups: nj.test
Subject: test
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:50:45 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


this is a test
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From: cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rob Cermak)
Newsgroups: nj.weather
Subject: CLIMATE DATA - LONG FORM
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:49:39 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


NJ Climate Data from Rutgers University- Cook College Meteorology Department
                     & NJ Climate Center

*** THIS DATA WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE WHEN POSSIBLE ***
*** QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu ***

Date: September 26, 1992		LONG FORM

Temperature: [Values are for 24 hour period ending at 7 a.m. today]
	     [All temperatures in degrees F]
	HIGH	LOW	AVE.	NORMAL	DEPAR-	DEPAR-	MONTH
				AVE.	TURE	TURE	AVERAGE
						SUM
TODAY	60	49	55	62	-7  	-22	-0.8
NORMAL	73	51		62	
1991	70	56	63	62	+1	 0 	 0.0
RECORDS 91	35
YEAR(S) 1970	1922

		      TODAY   MONTH   SEASON    [Heating degree days are
HEATING DEGREE DAYS	10	61	61	 base 65, take 65 minus
	1991		2	57	57	 the daily average temp and
	NORMAL		3	15	15	 sum, not using negative #s]

RELATIVE HUMIDTY	HIGH	100%	LOW	91%	7AM	100%

PRECIPITATION (Inches)
	TODAY	MONTH	YEAR	NORMAL
TODAY	0.78"	2.04"	28.44"	35.27"
1991	1.52"	3.46"	37.49"
RECORD	1.52"	YEAR    1991

SOIL READINGS:  Sod(Grass Covered), Fallow(Bare Ground)
		MAX	MIN	7AM		MAX	MIN
2" Fallow	60	55	60
4" Fallow	62	57	62
8" Fallow	62	62	62
4" Sod		63	62 	62	1991	65	65
8" Sod		61	60	60

1991 values signify values for the SAME DAY LAST YEAR
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From: hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Re: speed limit
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:42:44 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: The Blue House

glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt) says:
>In article <149@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
>>I recently read somewhere that a NJ State rep is sponsoring
>>a bill to increase the NJ speed limit to 65.  Can anyone tell me
>>who it is and also what bill # I should tell my representative
>>to support? Thanks
>
>Talk about your bread and circuses -- cut the sales tax by 1% and let
>'em drive fast, and NJ citizens will stay happy.

I didn't ask for commentary, I just asked for info on the bill.
You know nothing about me, I know nothing about you.  Don't make
silly sweeping generalizations.
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From: europa@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (r.j.capik)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Re: speed limit
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:26:15 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Sep28.135911.415@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, by whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl):
> In article <149@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
> 
> There are two assembly bills that cover raising the speed limit.
> One bill addresses the turnpike and/or the GSP, and the other
> covers the regular interstate highways (eg. I-80, I-78, etc.)
> The bill numbers are A-1830 and A-1831.  They were introduced by 
> assemblyman Steve Mikulak.  Do tell BOTH of your assemblymen
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)

Could this be the same assemblyman that ran the toll hearings
in Woodbridge? The ones that ended in a near riot. The hearings
where the officials refused to control the audience, and some
speakers needed police escorts to leave the building in
safety.
The same assemblyman brought before the ethics committee for
cussing out some women at that hearing?

OK, I may support the bills, but I don't know if I should trust
the motives of this [my] assemblyman...

Ron Capik  at AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ
(No, I don't speak for Bell Labs; I just work there... )
From: hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: speed limit
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:53:46 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: The Blue House

To all who noted my somewhat nasty response regarding speed/politics:

Yes, I did overreact. I apologize.  Usenet IS a public forum.
Unfortunately, I did take the comment personally. I like
to think that I'm intelligent enough to choose my politicians.
Just imagine that I was defending all the non-101.5 listeners  :-)

Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have said that.....

OK, how about Perot? Real threat? Loser? Post opinions, I promise
I won't explode.

Hugo
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From: mf@dancer.uucp (24227-fusco)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Re: Guv Jim says no to 65, was Re: speed limit
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:21:39 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: On the Road

In article <1992Sep29.135820.6048@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:
>
>Well, in another "we know what's best for you" statement, Guv Jim
>has already announced that if the speed limit bill is passed, he will veto
>it.  Guess who he anounced that to?  The insurance industry folks who are
>one of the major benefiters from the bogus 55 limit.  Why, because it
>makes it a cake walk for the police to hand out tickets for speeding.
>The more speeding tickets given out, the more points against individuals'
>driving records and the higher the insurance premiums go.
	
	Is there any way to find out what insurance companies support
issues like this -- I'd like to make sure I give my business elseware
(of course, they all probably support lining their own pockets).

mf
Newsgroups: nj.politics
From: glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt)
Subject: Re: speed limit
Followup-To: poster
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:18:48 GMT

In article <150@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
>glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt) says:
>>In article <149@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:

<deleted commentary on speed limits>

>I didn't ask for commentary, I just asked for info on the bill.
>You know nothing about me, I know nothing about you.  Don't make
>silly sweeping generalizations.

The only "silly sweeping generalization" made was about the NJ
legislature.  The comment wasn't directed at you, only at an idea raised
in my mind by your post.  When you post on Usenet, I think it's fair to
say that you/your posts become open to that kind of response.  Whether
anyone cares about my idea, is for the free market to decide....  

Believe it or not, I agree with raising the speed limit, though I'm not
sure whether it will really make any difference to anyone's life
(considering that I doubt the limit will be raised in most of the places
where people drive).  But that's a different issue.

Peace,
GARY
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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Guv Jim says no to 65, was Re: speed limit
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:58:20 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ


Well, in another "we know what's best for you" statement, Guv Jim
has already announced that if the speed limit bill is passed, he will veto
it.  Guess who he anounced that to?  The insurance industry folks who are
one of the major benefiters from the bogus 55 limit.  Why, because it
makes it a cake walk for the police to hand out tickets for speeding.
The more speeding tickets given out, the more points against individuals'
driving records and the higher the insurance premiums go.

During the past two days there have been many callers to 101.5 FM
on the 55 limit and all but a handful favor raising the speed to
65 where that is permitted by federal law.  Those that favor keeping
it 55 rely on the old theory that if the everyone is driving 65 now when 
the limit is 55, then they will all go 75 if the limit is 65.  That
has not proven to be the case at all in those states (over 40)
that now have 65.

So, hang another reason not to re-elect Guv Jim next year if you
are a driver.  Let's hope that the legislature has more respect
for the people and overwhelmingly passes the 65 mph bills with a
veto proof margin as they did with the photo-radar ban legislation.

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From: glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt)
Subject: Re: speed limit
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: nj
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:42:24 GMT

In article <149@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
>I recently read somewhere that a NJ State rep is sponsoring
>a bill to increase the NJ speed limit to 65.  Can anyone tell me
>who it is and also what bill # I should tell my representative
>to support? Thanks

Talk about your bread and circuses -- cut the sales tax by 1% and let
'em drive fast, and NJ citizens will stay happy.

Oh, yeah, and if there are any problems, blame them on Florio.

GARY
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From: hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: speed limit
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:56:39 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: The Blue House

I recently read somewhere that a NJ State rep is sponsoring
a bill to increase the NJ speed limit to 65.  Can anyone tell me
who it is and also what bill # I should tell my representative
to support? Thanks
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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Re: speed limit
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:59:11 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <149@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
>I recently read somewhere that a NJ State rep is sponsoring
>a bill to increase the NJ speed limit to 65.  Can anyone tell me
>who it is and also what bill # I should tell my representative
>to support? Thanks

There are two assembly bills that cover raising the speed limit.
One bill addresses the turnpike and/or the GSP, and the other
covers the regular interstate highways (eg. I-80, I-78, etc.)
The bill numbers are A-1830 and A-1831.  They were introduced by 
assemblyman Steve Mikulak.  Do tell BOTH of your assemblymen
(each district has two assemblymen)
AND your Senator to sign on in support of these bills.

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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Re: speed limit
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:03:47 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Sep27.174224.20528@Princeton.EDU> glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt) writes:
>In article <149@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
>>I recently read somewhere that a NJ State rep is sponsoring
>>a bill to increase the NJ speed limit to 65.  Can anyone tell me
>>who it is and also what bill # I should tell my representative
>>to support? Thanks
>
>Talk about your bread and circuses -- cut the sales tax by 1% and let
>'em drive fast, and NJ citizens will stay happy.

Rather a short sighted assumption on your part.

>Oh, yeah, and if there are any problems, blame them on Florio.

Ignoring the sales tax issue, what do you see as the problems
related to changing the speed limit to reflect the way everyone is
already driving?

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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: Re: Guv Jim says no to 65, was Re: speed limit
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:56:33 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Sep29.162139.8463@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> mf@dancer.uucp (24227-fusco) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.135820.6048@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:
>>
>>Well, in another "we know what's best for you" statement, Guv Jim
>>has already announced that if the speed limit bill is passed, he will veto
>>it.  Guess who he anounced that to?  The insurance industry folks who are
>>one of the major benefiters from the bogus 55 limit.  Why, because it
>>makes it a cake walk for the police to hand out tickets for speeding.
>>The more speeding tickets given out, the more points against individuals'
>>driving records and the higher the insurance premiums go.
>	
>	Is there any way to find out what insurance companies support
>issues like this -- I'd like to make sure I give my business elseware
>(of course, they all probably support lining their own pockets).

First, the answer pretty much is they all support lower speed limits.

Now, I minor correction...seems the 101.5 FM folks did a jump in
logic when they took the guv's words and extended what he said to
imply a veto of the bills.  Apparently in his letter to the
insurance folks, he said something closer to ....I (the guv) am
not inclined to support the higher speed limit.  Probably a bit
of weasle wording to give him room to change his mind if he gets
a strong message from the people to raise the limits.

Now that's your cue to call or write the guv and tell him you
want the speed limit raised to 65.  As a prominent ABC talk radio
annoncer would say..."Your influence counts.  Use it!"

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From: mf@dancer.uucp (24227-fusco)
Newsgroups: nj.politics
Subject: NJ Taxes and Florio bashing -  was Re: Clinton In New Jesery
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:37:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: On the Road

In article <1992Sep29.144241.2440@fid.morgan.com> joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins) writes:
>
>I think thats perfect-  Clinton in NJ - how many people remember
>how Democratic Gov Florio 'helped' us with the massive tax increases of 
>June 1990? The largest single tax increase of any state in the history of our
>country. Think about that. Before he took office, he had said:
>   'I see no reason to raise taxes'

	I'm a pretty new resident to NJ but it seems that the state
taxes here are pretty *fair* (compared to some other states I've lived - 
CT and CO). I'm not sure how they compared before 1990 when I moved here tho.
State income tax here seem reasonable (again compare to other states
that I am aware of), sales tax is typical of most states that I have purchased
items in, no property tax on vehicles (big suprise to me).
Since I don't own a house, I cannot comment on property taxes.
Sounds like Florio is getting bashed for lies (kinda like Bush!) but
how is the state deficit, etc. now and where would NJ be if not
for the increase in taxes (is the state government just too fat too?)
(now if we can only overturn that stupid gun law!)