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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:10:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <ewillims.717417667@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:

>A sexual relationship (particularly for a woman, mainly due to 
>primeval drives to find a stable provider and strong hunter for
>her children) involves emotions.  For godsakes, it's one of the most
>intimate things two people can do for and to each other!!

I'd have to agree with this ...

>If a partner finds it necessary to look for something they are missing
>from a relationship, then that relationship by definition cannot be
>satisfying and therefore cannot have their full commitment!

... but not this.  You're making a lot of assumptions about why people
might want non-exclusivity, and I think you're thinking too much about
someone cheating dishonestly.  If two people decide that they wish to
have other relationships, it could well be because they value the spice
it adds to their primary relationship, not because they "need" something
that isn't there.  And if some people want to manage multiple romantic
and sexual relationships at once, they might be able to do that, too.
Lord knows something in me would get sprained if I tried; when I'm in
a healthy relationship, I tend to lose interest in other women, anyway.

>	I also have to add that if this sort of relationship is
>fairly commonplace in the states, I have to say that I begin to 
>understand why your divorce rate is so high.

This sort of relationship is rare as hen's teeth, but divorce rates
are through the roof anyway.  You desparately need another hypothesis.
(I have a few, but they're mine, and I don't want to share!  :-)

Rob T
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:05:45 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <5608@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>Ed, this brings to mind something I've been wanting to ask you.  
>Why do you like to read/post on soc.singles?  

First of all, some people consider it worthwhile to defend their
positions even if they're not likely to gain anything from it
personally or even convince anyone else that they're right.  To
quote Jefferson Smith, "Sometimes lost causes are the only ones
worth fighting for."

Secondly, I was not the person who originally started this thread.
Someone else asked a question, and got a few flames in response,
but no one has even addressed his comments to the original poster 
lately because as soon as I posted it was, as Dawn Hardin said, wiping 
the saliva from her chin, "open season on Ed Wright."  If I went away 
in frustration, I would not lose anything.  However, there are other 
people out there who would like to honestly and openly discuss issues
in soc.singles that they cannot discuss without being howled down by
Charlie Martin and the wolf pack.  They would lose. 
 
Finally, I am far from being the only person who the physical fitness
movement attacks for not having a perfect body.  Indeed, it's hardly
possible to watch television without seeing commercials that tell you
how out of shape Americans are, how they need to exercise more, all the
awful things that are going to happen if they don't, etc.  Many people
are less capable of withstanding this abuse than I am.  I have seen
people -- friends of mine -- become dangerously depressed because of
it.  If there is even a remote chance that I can convince just one
person on the net that it *isn't* okay to treat someone like scum
just because of his or her appearance, and one person suffers less
because of it, I consider that worth my efforts.   


>Ed, maybe you ought to think about why you're spending so much of your
>time *here*, bitching, instead of spending it out there looking.  

Do you spend all of your time "out there looking?"  Or do you
concentrate your efforts on those times when there's a reasonably 
probability of meeting someone?  

   



Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Bar/Club Scene
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:36:49 GMT

In article <2@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1ab3j2INNgs1@golem.wcc.govt.nz> parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>|>lady came up to me and said, "You're looking good honey but you're fly is
>|>open".  I just zipped it up and said, "I know.  Works every time.  What's
>|>your sign?"
> 
>corny and spontaneous that she couldn't help but bust up laughing.  I 
>caught her looking my way a couple more times, perhaps to see if my fly 
>came undone again, and when I made eye contact she just started laughing again. 
>She gave a nice friendly wave when I left.
>
>Question: Was she laughing at me or with me?  

 John John John. You babe magnet.
 
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From: carol@eecs.nwu.edu (Carol Surma)
Subject: Re: More on guys who aren't dating Ed Wright
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: soc
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:43:50 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Sep29210821@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>
>In article <ewright.717737097@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:


>Why is it better to be miserable and perfect?

One comment:  

Perfectionists are people who take pains...  and give them to others. :-)

Carol 
(yes, my first post)


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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Asking advice
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:08:15 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>  Consequently, the old
>cliche that states "...the meek shall inherit the earth..."
>has merit.

"...but they have to wait for the rest of us to die first."

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)
Subject: Re: relationship gone to pot?
Organization: t.b
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:11:01 GMT

dl@cockatoo.bellcore.com (Daniel Liebster) writes:
> As a mere technicality, pot is not addictive.

     Not for most people, but it can be for some
(psychologically, of course, not physically).
I've seen it happen and it isn't pretty.  The
people I've seen involved don't steal or
anything, but they make themselves and everyone
around them miserable until they find more pot.

     Fortunately, most people who smoke pot seem
to be able to take it or leave it.

--Starcap'n Ra       {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: Asking advice
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 06:22:04 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC

In article <117@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>it is a generally accepted Psychological Theory, that 
>Public Displays of Affection [PDA] are a symptom of insecurity
>on the part of one or both of the parties involved.

	The problem with too many shrinks is that they're crazier than
their patients.

	Affection is nice, in public or private; what's to explain?

						Kayembee
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu ("Broward "Yankovic" Horne")
Subject:      Soup Dragons Support Clinton
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12:31:16 MST
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From: wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman)
Subject: Re: First Lady?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA

In article <9209261723.AA09042@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu (B
>   That was brilliant, Broward, but, as a Clinton supporter, I'm forced
>to hope the Soup Dragons sue.  Nothing personal, you understand.

       As an Athletic Supporter, I'm forced to hope that Hilary chews.
       Nothing personal, you understand.

       A vote for Clinton is a vote for Bush.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: To all Christian girls
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:01:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.001115.6187@newshost.anu.edu.au> just me writes:
> I am getting closer to my thirties, and being a genuinly trying Christian man

	Lord save me from the temptation of straight lines. 

>I constantly have a problem to see where there are all those young sporty
>Christian girls ...  I know many other people have this or similar problem -
>don't you girls also find it difficult to find the right guy ?
	
	What -exactly- is a sporty Christian girl?

								James Nicoll
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys (noooooooo!)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:17:08 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <5521@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>When someone breaks up with you, do you want to know why?

I contrast two bouts of "nice try, but no enchilada":

In one, I asked for reasons and was told that she simply wasn't very
interested, though she wasn't put off by anything in particular.  I
forgot in some small number of weeks, and am really grateful for that.

In the other, I was a victim of the kind of "kindness" that made her
say "Yes, I'm tempted" rather than saying "Stop wasting your time".
She did more damage to me over the course of almost two years of
oscillation that anyone has ever managed to do to me, ever.  I finally
managed to break free and swear off any chance of a relationship, and
I think we might manage to maintain a slight, tiny friendship-replica.

Do you still want me to say which approach I prefer?

Rob T
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From: epg@nature.Berkeley.EDU (little 'e' string)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Dominance? (was: The Engagement Ring Question)
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:23:43 GMT
Organization: Bourbon Street
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In article <1992Sep21.103744.397@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>Well, the significant point is the finger upon which the ring is placed.
>By custom this is the third finger of the left hand, the so-called ring
>finger.  The third finger (fourth digit) has the least independent mobility.
>For most folks the left hand is the weaker and more submissive hand.  The
>symbolism seems quite clear.  The recipient is committing to subordination.
>
>-- Herb Huston

Well, some of us are left-handed and have a stronger left hand than right hand.
So if I wear a ring on my left hand, am I committing to being the dominator? 

Just me,

little 'e'

(who's SO might be getting a *little bit* worried now :)
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:41:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct6.180140.7356@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>
>My loved one's member kissed me just yesterday.  I was sitting out on
>the front porch swing and he was still upstairs sleeping when I hear
>this little pitty-pat, pitty-pat and here comes his member hopping down
>the stairs wearing a tuxedo and a top hat swinging a cane singing
>"Swar-mee, how I love ya how I love ya ..." and I leaned down and let it
>bus my cheek.  How adorable!

Hmmm.  I guess this could be classified as an away-from-body-experience, eh?
--
 Life is exactly what you make of it, always has been, always will be.
                                          
                                          --  Grandma Moses
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Open letter to Edward V. Wright
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 22:13:01 GMT

In article <1adhnkINN6mu@golem.wcc.govt.nz> parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.214929.10283@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> 
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 
>>Or even this more streamlined example from another great, unfinished,
>>American novel....
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Am I the only person around here who's sick of this?

<snif>  But I've worked so hard on my entries to the Bulwer-Lytton contest
for bad fiction; I've even had one entry published.  

>>Trygve   (However, I refuse to type in the 100,000-word record-breaking
>>          sentence with my tongue this time.) 
>
>(chuckle)

Trygve   (I might, however, be persuaded to write it longhand with my 
          tongue--provided I had an appropriate writing surface.) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Originator: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 17:14:48 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Sep26115753@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>But get a clue, man!  The Gulch is *full* of programmers!  They're *all*
>computer geeks just like you and me.  You've never *lived* until you've
>watched some of the softball games -- they're almost as funny as Giants
>games.

This generalization is as bad as Ed's, and some of the others that
have been posted here.  Doesn't it occur to anyone that there might be
people who work as programmers during the day, but have hobbies and
lesiure activities at night or on the weekends that they're quite good
at?  For example, I knew some people who I played softball with who
played in some of the high-level city leagues in the SF bay area.
These same people worked as (gasp!) programmers and researchers at
SIlicon Valley companies.  There were people who played in these
leagues who had once played at the semi-pro or pro level, or who had
opportunities to go to college on sports scholarships.  A friend I
used to work with turned down a baseball scholarship because he wanted
to study computer science and didn't think he'd be able to concentrate
on cs and varsity baseball.

--gregbo
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:10:03 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com's message of 30 Sep 92 18:09:24 GMT

What barbi ought to say is "standing up is hard.  My back hurts."
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"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:39:06 GMT

In article <BvnM7F.Eqv@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>	Did Neanderthals have dogs, or is domestication more recent than  
>them?

No, Neandethals did not domesticate dogs, but they may have eaten them.
The earliest date I've seen for the domestication of dogs was 12,000 ago,
long after the Neanderthals had become extinct.  I've heard about one of
the earliest paintings to depict human beings (most Cro-Magnon cave paintings
do not show humans or show them as stick figures) portraying a hunting party
of men accompanied by dogs.

>	Ever notice how lousy the lifestyle of males  is in many other
>species? Thank god the sexual dimorphism in humans is (Under many modes
>of post-agricultural culture) in the males' favour: I *could* have been 
>a male spider, or one of those fish who fertilise their sisters and die,
>prior to birth.

Sorry if I'm bursting your bubble, but the degree of human sexual dimorphism
seems to have been on the decline.  Although for most mammals males are
bigger than females, the blue whales being an exception, the females tend
to live longer on average.  The sex life of the male praying mantis certainly
doesn't seem appealing, but at least the female's biting off his head first
seems to improve his copulatory performance.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: The spice of life
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:23:06 GMT

In article <ewillims.717614514@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>In <1992Sep25.183620.1769@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>unapproachable; maybe you need to try looking less intimidating like I
>>do (dressed all in black, 6'4", 250#, fangs (no, I'm not kidding about
>>the fangs part--kinda silly for a strict vegetarian to have fangs, but
>>they actually do come in useful)).
>> 
>>Trygve
>
>	Aha!  Now I know why you have a dungeon in your castle!:)
>Vampires always need them.  Vampires are also extremely sexually
>and sensuously attractive!:)  Vampires don't eat meat either.
>
>Mmmmmm.........:)

Hmmmm...well, that could explain a lot--my habit of staying up through
the night and sleeping late, the level of endurance, and my fondness for
nibbling on necks (and other areas as well).  Now I guess the thing to
do is start working on the whole changing-into-a-bat thing; just think
how much I could save on airfare!

Trygve   (I just hope a king-sized watercoffin isn't too untraditional....)
From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Riverboat gambling / was Re: Good movies ...
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:44:06 GMT
Reply-To: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: jd-next.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Oct5.133102.23201@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>  
nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
> 
> Has anyone taken in riverboat gambling?  The one in Joliet is pretty
> expensive and you're herded like cattle, but we're trying Davenport
> this weekend.  Just thought I'd ask.
> 

My brother has taken the drive up there for the riverboat scene; he said  
he had a great time, and we are currently planning another expedition  
sometime in the next 6 months. He DID say that he dropped a small amount  
of cash, though.
--
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From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Date: 3 Oct 1992 15:10:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Oct1.135236.16647@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
|> According to the several hundred hours I spent sitting through
|> various anthropology lectures during my undergrad days, humans, though
|> primates, did NOT evolve from apes.  Humans, that is Cro-Magnons, evolved
|> from other hominids, if I remember correctly.

In article <1992Oct1.171835.5640@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>Humans are not Cro-Magnons, nor are they direct descendants of Cro-Magnon.
>Cro-Magnon was a "branch" that died out...

Cro-Magnons were 100% human.  Neanderthals were human too.  They coexisted.
Cro-Magnons never died out.  You're probably a descendant.  Neanderthals were
the ones that died off, were killed off, or were reassimilated.

Our ancestors were primates that ultimately were not human.  People use the
term "ape" generically to denote any primate that resembles a human but isn't
a human.  Therefore we evolved from apes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:22:08 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <MARTINC.92Sep27145910@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>(Rob: does he really wear a lot of black too?)

Actually, I think Ed dresses pretty well, and I've overheard some
quite positive comments about his hats.  (Yes, that's a plural).

Rob T
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Across the evening sky, all the birds are leaving
But how can they know it's time for them to go?		- Sandy Denny