From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part VII, NAZI DOCTORS Directed by Government, Medicine and Academia
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy 
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Keywords: Nazi doctors directed by Government, Medicine and Academia 
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:16:29 GMT

        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
GARY NULL:
Critics of the military's increased presence on campus believe that
science will naturally gravitate to where the money is, and that 
the role of the university as an objective gatherer of knowledge is
threatened when university administrators are forced to woo money
from special businesses, corporations and the Pentagon. In an
environment such as this, it is unlikely that scientific ethics
will be any more evolved than they were years ago. In fact, the
relative decrease in funding from sources other than the Pentagon
STRONGLY suggests that today's scientists may be forced to make 
more difficult ethical decisions.

Some of the experiments detailed in my discussion today were
conducted solely to enable scientists to (quote) "calibrate"
(unquote) instruments that measure radioactive substances in the
body. Over almost a decade, subjects either inhaled argon-41 or
swallowed capsules of other radioactive materials so that           
scientists could set their instruments.
                             
One of the most startling things about these series of radiation
experiments is the relative apathy in which we, as a country,  
accept them, even when they are exposed. In fact, there is very
little in the news about the death or harm from radiation today.
The nuclear industry is on the rebound. This seems unusual in a
medium that is characterized by its aggressive investigation of the
sex lives of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen, or those of other people.
Who cares!  All that headline and all that news over domestic
squabbling and emotional issues -- the family effect of a private
couple, irrespective of their public personna.  They still have a
right to settle the issue as they see fit, in court or in hearings.

But where are the headlines about investigating multiple hundreds 
of thousands of diseased people by the things in our environment?
Where  Are  Those  Headlines  Screaming ?     They are silent.
People know how many pairs of shoes Imelda Marcos had. People know
about Jimmy Bakker's secret sex affairs.  People know about Bill
Clinton's alleged mistress.  But what about $125 hammers purchased
by the Pentagon? Or a $13,000 coffee machine for an airplane?
Why don't we hear about radiation and its risks to human health?
Is it just that it's not newsworthy enough?  CONSERVATIVELY, Doctor
John Goffman estimates that fifty thousand people develop cancer
ANNUALLY as a result of their exposure to X-rays, in excess of what 
is needed for good diagnostic pictures.   Why Isn't That Reported ?
I think that fifty thousand people getting cancer every year from
unnecessary X-rays is important -- certainly as important as whether
or not Tammy Bakker is happy with her eyebrows 3 inches, 4 inches or
8 inches up on her forehead.    Dr. John Goffman says:

 (quote)
   "There are very, very powerful Interests who do not want that 
    information to get out. One is the radiology profession. Another
    is the nuclear medicine profession. These people make their 
    livelihoods by conducting these types of experiments. And still
    other even more powerful Interests are the Government and the
    nuclear industry. To all of these groups, the amount of harm
    done by radiation is acceptable.  The media can count on this.

    I've seen them descend on the radio commentator who was covering
    the story at the Chernobyl disaster. What happened was that he
    mentioned that there had been an explosion at the Three Mile 
    Island [nuclear] plant. The next day, four officials from the 
    Public Utility Commission descended on his station manager and 
    claimed that he had falsely reported an explosion at Three Mile
    Island.  Of course, it was documented. You just had to look at
    the Presidential Commmission Report which says that there were
    TWO explosions at Three Mile Island. But the four Public Utility
    Commission officials harrassed the station manager, anyway,
    thinking that they could con him into suppressing the 
    information.                                                    

    If you think that you're dealing with objectivity and honesty,
    let me tell you that you are dealing outside of the real world
    when you say:  `Gosh. This ought to be news.'
    Remember, there are big vested Interests on the part of the
    United States Government, the nuclear industry and the medical 
    profession's radiology branches to keep this news from surfacing.
    So, don't be surprised when you go to a nuclear medicine
    specialist and he says: `Oh, this is all nonsense about 
    low-level doses of radiation causing cancer. We've been using 
    these doses for years. I've been taking X-rays for a long time
    and I've never seen them causing cancer.'

    These people are then put ON THE AIR, written about in the 
    newspapers with articles that say: `Radiologist Finds That 
    Radiation Effects Have Been Overblown.'
    But you never see the Press doing an analysis of the real 
    evidence."
 (unquote)

That was from Dr. John Goffman in an interview with me. Dr. Goffman
says that he is so fed up with the manner in which the Press
reports, or rather, fails to report on the devastating effects of 
radiation, which kill thousands of Americans each year, that he:

 (quote)
   "would not bother with the Media if I didn't feel it to be part 
    of my human duty, as a physcian. There are people out there who
    will kill other people for a price.  Murder is not restricted to
    the Mafia or Murder Incorporated. It's alive and well in the 
    Medical Profession where they are killing people for a fee.
 (unquote)

The Government and the Medical Profession have not confined their
crimes against the American People to radiation exposure.

More on tomorrow's program when I continue to explore other ways in 
which hidden agendas have caused Americans to be used as human
guinea pigs. And to those who would suggest that it is an isolated
case here and there: You continue to suggest it is, and I'll
continue to share information that it is not. 

Ultimately, the Public can make up its own mind.  It can be
completely indifferent, as 95 percent are, or it can be somewhat
concerned or very concerned. It's not that we're going to change
them.  We won't. What we can do is we can change OUR design to be
part of their experiments. WE don't have to be unwitting victims if
we choose not to. That is a perceptual change.

I'm Gary Null.
This has been a part of our continuing series on Hidden Agendas.
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