From: atam@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Alexander Tam)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: BIG troubleS in NT
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:05:42 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

Hi, deb. Hope you still recall who I am. I sent some mail a few weeks ago for
some questions on NEC CDR-84 and some questions on NT too. I wish you can give
me some help on the following ones. Thank you very much.


I will give my hardware and software configurations on my computer first.
Hardware:	DECpc 433ST, 20MB/128K
		Adaptec 1542B
		Maxtor LXT-340s (total 340MB)
		NEC CDR-84(internal)
		Regular VGA
		Complete Communicator(not for NT, for Windows 3.1 only)
Software:	All of the following are reside in a single partition of 340MB 
		- DOS 5.0
		- Windows 3.1
		- Word 2.0, Excel 4.0, Money, etc. (all Windows apps)

The above configuration is what I had before installing NT. Next, I put NT
on my machine. Installation went smoothly from the beginning to the end.
No errors and warnings like those posted in this news group ealier. My NT
is installed successfully. I started to run it and installed Win32 SDK.
That installation is fine *TOO*. No errors and warnings. So, NT resides in the
same partition as DOS+Windows+App does. My page file is of 32MB.

Strange things occur from this point onward:
1) I tried to build those samples in mstools. By going to the samples directory    and I typed makeall, I got the following error on *EACH* sample:
	Error: Cannot find c:\temp\000112ex: no such file or directory
   I forgot the error name and number. It is a compiler error though. Next, I
   do the same mstools installation ONE MORE TIME by going to the CD-ROM drive
   and type setup in mstools directory. This time, after the install, the 
   compiler works fine. But I get a bunch of warnings for each sample:
	filename.exe(): warning 0505: No modules extracted from c:\mstools\lib\CRTDLL.LIB
	filename.exe():...............................c:\mstools\lib\LIBC.LIB
	....
   total 10 to 20 warning messages. Are these warnings generated by the debug
   flag?

2) After *2* times installation to get Win32 compiler working, I have another
   BIG, BIG problem. I *CANNOT* run Windows app in my hard disk. Not even a
   single one. For each app (e.g. word, excel, etc), I did the following things:
	- from file manager, go to app's directory, click-click in app's file,
	- from ms-dos windows/console, cd to app's directory, type start <app>,
	- setup the applications thru Windows NT setup, let's NT itself search
	  for all apps it recognize. Then, click-click on the icon in the 
          Applicatin group.
   All the above method fails. All I get is the mouse pointer changes to a 
   hour-glass and rapidly changes back to a mouse pointer. *NOTHING* happens.
   I *CANNOT* even run DOS apps too. I cd to DOS directory in dos windows and
   type start edit. Same, nothing happens. I just *CANNOT* run nothing in my
   c: drive EXCEPT those in c:\mstools and c:\winnt. I already set my path to
   include c:\winword and c:\excel for testing. Well, I can run all, I think,
   exe files in the CD-ROM. However, WHY I CANNOT EXECUTE ANY OTHER THINGS?!
   I ALREADY PUT WOWEXEC.EXE,the 16-bit windows subsystem, INTO STARTUP GROUP.
   STILL, NOTHING HAPPENS BUT THE HOUR-GLASS APPEARS IN 1/10 SECOND. You may 
   tell me that I may not be able to run win & dos app now. BUT, IF YOU TAKE A
   LOOK AT THE OCTOBER ISSUE OF WINDOWS MAGAZINE, THEY SHOWS A PICTURE THAT
   T H E I R MACHINE IS RUNNING dos\edit, excel, etc. WHY NOT ME? I GET THE 
   SAME WIN32 SDK AS THEY DID.

Since my NT is installed and running, I say NT itself is running but not those
app it supports, I think it is not a hardware problem.

Any help is appreciated, especially from Microsoft like Alistair. Thank you 
very much.

Alex
atam@eng.pyramid.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32