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From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: Ain't nothin' like ARC women...!
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:04:15 GMT

puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude) shares: 

>"Keep it up"? Oh Jules. You say the cutest things...   *grin*

Not THAT!  THAT is Mrs. Puter's department and I'm sure she has things
well in hand........so to speak. ;)


>Sheesh! A garage AND woods! I guess ole evetS has the binocs, too!
>My bare, white tush would blind y'all in summertime...

Steven?  HA!  Those are MINE!


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: newburgheath@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: ***Top-notch romantic movies?***
Date: 20 Jan 93 15:03:33 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hello all you romantic movie buffs!  I would like to know which romance 
movies are your favorites and why...My suite is doing a theme movie night 
this coming semester:  Mel Gibson madness, Kevin Costner convention, Julia 
Roberts jamborie, a night of horror, and and evening of romance.  Do any of 
you have any suggestions for top-notch romance movies?  We have all seen 
Pretty Woman about 50 times each, so that's out of the question.

Thanks for your suggestions!
Heather
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: An official introduction...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:10:30 GMT

robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty) writes:

>kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt) writes:

>>Yeah, let's meet halfway and have a chat of our own. (Hmm, halfway would
>>be somewhere in Bagdad or so :-) ) Who brings the beer?!

>Depends - I'd rather drink German beer than Oz (sacrelige! :-X :)
>Maybe half and half - and you get to try Oz beer :-)
>I know - meet halfway and swap eskies :-)  I'll drink the german beer
>and you drink the Oz beer :-)

Oh, now hang on Rob. It depends on what we are drinking.
*One* Aussie beer passes the test, doesn't it,  eh Clare??  :-)
But Kai's esky does sound like a good idea!

--
Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: help? advice?
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:14:58 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


i'm not sure this is entirely about romance, but hey, it's in there
somewhere & y'all seem to be pretty helpful, so here is.

i'm in love. completely. the relationship is more than i ever dreamed
possible. for a while, i was so cynical i had even killed my dreams off.
fortunately, it didn't take much to revive them. love is grand, we're
getting along fine & i'd like to brag a little, which explains the
above.

now, a snake in the garden. my father & i haven't had the best of 
relationships in the past. i'm well beyond the "dress in black & hate 
your dad" stage, but it still comes up now & again. every once in a
while i'll talk to someone from back home & find out he's been saying
downright slanderous things about me. mainly i just ignore him, 
except to tell people who ask that he's a genius (which is true) and 
that he sometimes acts like a 2 year old (also true).

that approach works fine, but relationships make everything a bit more
complex. i've recently found out that he's started including my SO in
his gossip. he knows nothing about her except her name & the fact that
we're together. somehow that doesn't deter him. i don't care when he
talks about me. it makes him look like an idiot & if the poor man 
needs to get his jollies that way, so be it. likewise, my SO is self-
confident enough that it doesn't matter much to her either.

-however-, everything in me violently rebels at the idea of my father
(one person in this world who should be -happy- about this) insulting 
the person i'm deeply in love with. it's such a twisted circumstance 
that i'm having a hard time comprehending it, much less dealing with 
it.

is there anything i can do to forget about this? or at least vent my 
frustrations in a somewhat constructive manner? i'm starting to honestly
dislike the man again because of this. i'd really rather not become
to preoccupied with him, as it's a waste of time & makes me a slave
to his actions. but i can't seem to get it out of my head that someone
who should love me is instead ripping on someone i love.

jason

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: help? advice?
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:42:55 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

thanks to everyone who replied (post or email) to my request for help.
i've gotten a number of good book references, as well as some moral
support & useful advice.

it seems i'll just have to keep on as i have, but your help & a long 
chat with my SO has made me feel more comfortable with the situation. 
at least, i don't feel physical pain when i think about it anymore. 
(*big* improvement)

one good thing about this: i've proved what i long suspected, that 
love is truely "better than anything", no matter what the external 
circumstances are. sure, it makes things more difficult, but i'll
take difficult & in love over easy & not any day.

still a bit bummed, but dealing,
jason

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: an3371@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Moving from friendship to romance?
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:36:01 GMT

Suppose you are friends with a girl, but you've never asked her
out.  And say you know her fairly well.  Now, what would be the
best way to sort-of "steer" the relationship away from just
being a friendly one and into more romantic territory?

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From: friendmr@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Date of Valentine's Day (was gift suggestions needed!!)
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:48:04 GMT
Organization: Drexel U.

In article <1993Jan25.173143.24784@ncsu.edu> eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
(Daniel L'Hommedieu) writes:
>For all those in Long-Distance relationships, just remember that
>Valentine's day this year is on a SATURDAY!  Amtrack, here I come!
>
>Deleted other stuff>


		Excuse me,  but the last time I looked at the calendar Valentine's Day was on
a Sunday.  ( I looked at the calendar this morning).


Tere
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Help...?
Keywords: ex-boyfriends
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:58:13 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <1993Jan24.150231.13906@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mreinker@nyx.cs.du.edu (matthew Reinker) writes:
>Disclaimer:  I'm using my current boyfriend's account to do this, and it
>is my problem.  I'd rather not use my name so I'll use "Companion".
>want to write him off completely, but I'm afraid he's obsessed with me, he
>seems to have this thing for dating a girl and getting them in bed, I
>broke his record, so to speak, I'm afraid to see him again, because of
>what could happen should we end up alone somewhere.

OK "Companion", you answered your question yourself.  You said 
"...he seems to have this thing for dating a girl and getting them
in bed..." .  That's exactly what he is doing.  He is still
interested in you for the reason you stated, because you broke his
record.  You didn't give in.  You are still a challenge to him.
I guarantee you that once you give in, he will move on.  Oh, he
may stay around for a short time, to get it a couple more times,
but he WILL move on.  I know, I was there.  Once I got a girl, 
she never looked the same to me, and I moved on.  The only exception
to this situation, was the lady I recently married.  But I'll
tell you that as a man gets older, he seems to be more popular
with the women, so it does become a challenge to see how many he
can get.  
--Keith
From: friendmr@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Advice please!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:43:28 GMT
Organization: Drexel U.

In article <1993Jan25.210627.10562@ac.dal.ca> rtousi@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Hi
>   Is it right to try and steal a girl from a boyfriend who is making her
>life miserable by his neglect, even though she still loves him. But she openly
>admitts he's making her life Hell.
>

It may not be exactly right for you to try and take her away but the least you
can do is try to be there for her and tell her that she needs to go on.  If you
try to take her away from him it might back fire on you and in the end she will
resent you for taking her away from someone she cared about.  I have
experienced this first hand before.

	I also once had a friend that was in the girl's position that you are talking
about and she wound up blaming the guy who took her away for her troubles.  The
best thing for you to do is listen to her problems and let her know that she
has someone who will treat her like she deserves to be treated.


Terethia Knighton

  B.K.A.
Tere
	
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From: bitn@ellis.uchicago.edu (nathan elery bitner)
Subject: Re: Girls can be confusing...
Reply-To: bitn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:43:21 GMT

In article <93022.090308MC90SANU@MIAMIU.BITNET> Donny <MC90SANU@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>Hm, girls never cease to amaze me with their head-spinning tactics.
>Although, sometimes I'm not sure that they do it purposely.
>Maybe I am way off base here... but, let me explain.
>
>   I met a great girl a few weekends ago named, er, Jane.  I was really
[story of how Jane wants to "just have fun" but he wants relationship
 deleted ...]

I would say that if what you really want is a relationship -- that having
non-commital (is that a word?) "fun" is not enough -- then you have to
deal with her directly.  Tell her that the most important part of your
relationship is your friendship (assuming it is) but that you are interested
in more.  But also let her know that if she is not interested in at least
working towards a relationship, then the "more than friends" interaction
should pretty much cease.  There is no reason for you to be jerked around
by someone who "just wants to have fun" at the expense of your feelings.

It sounds like to me that, since she just broke up with a boyfriend, her
self-esteem is probably hurting and she wants to find lots of guys who
will like her.  The mo' guys, the mo' better. :)  You'll get hurt if you
keep doing (physical) things with her in hopes of a relationship if that's
not at all what she's interested in.  If you back off and put your *own*
feeling first, not only will you be a little less vulnerable, but you'll
probably impress her.  More than, say, if you let her have total control
over where your "relationship" was going.  After all, that was a pretty
blatant disregard for your feelings to make out with you one night and
sleep with somebody the next ...

Just my opinion.

*-Nathan-*

>
>_Matt_
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>mc90sanu@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu    |   for nothing."
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: SUBJECTS NEEDED FOR PSYCH. STUDY
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:30:21 GMT

I am posting the following announcement for my sister.  She is looking  
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At this point, my sister is in greatest need of subjects for the  
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Thanks,
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From: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Valentines Day suggestions.. STILL WANTED!
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:12:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

I read that someone would write up some ideas on what to give for Valentines
Day this year and I havn't seen anything..  I'm looking for suggestions that
are out of the ordinary.. This will be my first Valentines Day with my SO
and I want it to be VERY special.  Nothing ordinary.. Of course, I'll
probably get her flowers and candy..but I want to get her something else..
special!  ANY ideas or suggestions would GREATLY be appreciated.. Oh, one
other thing, this is an LDR and I'm not sure we'll be able to spend it
together in person.  So a care package is probably the idea here... 
	thanx in advance,
			Dave
From: mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: When is it Miss/Mr. Right
Date: 19 Jan 93 19:54:25 GMT

When do you know?
Well, there are those who claim you never know,
until you're dead (oh, I guess s/he WAS the one
I spent my life with).

Indicators:

Would I support this person if they lost a limb, an eye?
If they developed a degenerative disease, a mental imbalance?
Do I respect this person's opinions?
Does this person respect my differences from her/him?
Am I anxious to have this person meet my parents, friends, or
does this person embarass me?
Do we have plans that run in similar directions?  i.e., someone
beginning a phd program contemplating getting married to someone
planning a three-year around the world sailing trip should do some
serious talking.

I'm sure there are others.....
-- 
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It's not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
From: helie@bach.udel.edu (Ray Helie)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: help? advice?
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:19:51 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
]  :
]  -however-, everything in me violently rebels at the idea of my father
]  (one person in this world who should be -happy- about this) insulting 
]  the person i'm deeply in love with. it's such a twisted circumstance 
]  that i'm having a hard time comprehending it, much less dealing with 
]  it.
   
]  is there anything i can do to forget about this? or at least vent my 
]  frustrations in a somewhat constructive manner? i'm starting to honestly
]  dislike the man again because of this. i'd really rather not become
]  to preoccupied with him, as it's a waste of time & makes me a slave
]  to his actions. but i can't seem to get it out of my head that someone
]  who should love me is instead ripping on someone i love.

It sounds like you are upset that he is acting this way because you
were maybe hoping that he would be happy about it instead, finally
"coming around" and showing you that he does, in fact, care about you.
Maybe the fact that he isn't happy about it makes you feel 
(understandably) even more hurt that he has been acting the way he does.  
Maybe it makes you wonder if he even cares(?)

Your father probably loves you very much, but is -unable- to express
it, and has some big problems of his own.  Maybe you can talk to him,
and try to come to an understanding between the two of you as far as
what you are both feeling towards each other.  If that doesn't work,
you can at least just try to chalk it up that he does care about you, 
but for some reason -beyond your control-, he is unable to show you
that.  It's -sad-, but possible that that is the case.

I'm really sorry that you are going through it.  8-(  I have learned
that, even though someone cares about you, they might be unable
to express it in a very good way.  


Ray

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Love Vs. Dependency
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:27:44 GMT

For those of you out there who are trying to get over a broken romance --
and I know you're out there -- I've been reading a wonderful book which some
of you might very well find as enlightening as I did.

It's called "The Road Less Traveled."  Actually, it's one in the series and
this particular book is called "A New Psychology of Love, Traditional
Values and Spiritual Growth."  The title makes it sound more religious than
it really is.  It does hit upon religion, but it isn't heavy handed and if
I, as a spiritual agnostic, can deal with it, it's not too bad.

Anyway, the middle third of the book is all about what constitutes love,
true love, and I thought that this was so enlightening that I wanted to share
it with you.  It's really made a difference for me and usually, although I'm
a voracious reader, books don't "make a difference."  

Anyway, the book talks about the "myth of romantic love" and dependence and
independence and, wow, I can't even begin to describe it all.  All I can say
is this: if you've recently broken up with someone "you can't live without"
then you need to read this book.  
Sharon
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mreinker@nyx.cs.du.edu (matthew Reinker)
Subject: Re: help? advice?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:23:49 GMT

Jason,
	Despite that it may be a waste of time, I think you AND your SO
should confront your father and tell him you know what he has been doing
and saying and then ask him why.  Trust me, I had a similar problem with
my mother, and had to confront her.  If they are unhappy with you, dammit,
they should tell you.  I hate this circumlocution when people really need
to talk!  Good luck and Vaya Con Dios...
	The companion

P.S. still typing away at these little insipid characters... Hey! Hun? Can
you get me a computer for X-mas? Just kidding...

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From: ac999273@umbc.edu (ac999273)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:36:38 GMT
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc5.umbc.edu

In article <1993Jan26.223107.24207@Virginia.EDU> llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow") writes:
>Strong enough to get up, get me a beer, hand me the remote and
>make the bed in the morning!

	Oooh!  I would love to do such chores for you... and any other chores
or whims that may cross your lovely mind!


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From: mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Equality - Let's get serious
Date: 19 Jan 93 20:04:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan14.145455.1056@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:

|> 
|> actually, you have to watch those statistics. the ones that claim 
|> women are making 60% of what men do don't take into account the 
|> amount of time, experience & education women have compared to men. 
|> when the numbers are adjusted for such factors, they indicate women 
|> make about 95% of what men do (if they indeed are doing the exact 
|> same job, have the exact same qualifications & work the exact same 
|> number of hours per week).

"Working Woman" magazine noted that among physicians and lawyers
women had lost ground to the tune of approximately 20 cents on the
dollar.  The number of women in traditionally male jobs is dropping
fast, especially in the construction trade.  Women are actively discouraged
from getting the experience, education and promotions needed to be equal
to men.  So your "reworking" of the statistics (which completely ignores
the widely accepted concept of "equivalent" jobs) is meaningless.

By the way, can you please quote your source.

-- 
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Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It's not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West