From: btiffany@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Re: Missionizing to 2-year-olds
Date: 22 Aug 92 11:36:06 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

            ** Submitted for Bruce Benning by Bruce Tiffany **
            ==================================================

>Subject: Re: Missionizing to 2-year-olds 
>From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
>
RL> Bruce Benning writes:
>
BB>> Rob, if you believe the activity you suggest your relatives did
BB>> against your young children was wrong, would you also agree with
BB>> me that the act of parents who disown their children because the
BB>> children become followers of Messiah Yeshua is equally wrong?
>
  Rob Levene reply's:
RL>If you think that frightening pre-school kids with stories of eternal
RL>fiery hell (or a drowning at the beach) for refusing to love Jesus is
RL>as equally wrong as disowning a grown child who makes a bad decision,
RL>then you have a truly sick sense of morality.
>
  [You make a good point. The shunning of one's children because of
  their decition to follow Yeshua is more cruel. And it hurts the
  parents along with the children.]

  I guess you have never talked to any of those children of parents
  who disowned them because of their faith, so you are unable to
  have an objective opinion about this. I suggest that by your comments
  above, you support the use of the emotional/psychological tool of
  -disownment- (should we say shunning?) of Jewish children who believe
  in Yeshua. Am I correct?
  To your unwarranted judgment upon my "sense of morality" I can
  only say that my opinions regarding what you and Mr. Strom call
  "Missionizing" pre-schoolers through fear have been voiced on this
  network. Messiah Yeshua, the living Lord, has so much to offer the
  young of this world that fear and coercion are unnecessary. If someone
  really knows Yeshua, they understand this. Perhaps you don't see these
  two forms of manipulation as equal because of your bias against those
  in Messiah who share God's plan of salvation with your Jewish brothers
  and sisters?

BB>> Now Rob, do you want to talk about emotional/psychological warfare of
BB>> this nature? It does exist. How would you respond to it?

RL> Psychological warfare is one more front on which enemies do battle.

RL>R

  So you do believe that the use of emotional/psychological warfare of
  this nature is proper for Jewish parents against their children. Is that
  what your comment means? By your comment "enemies do battle", are you
  inferring that the child of Jewish parents becomes their enemy when
  the child believes in Messiah Yeshua? Does this mean it is a valid
  action for the children to use upon the parents in return?


         Bruce Benning __________ benning@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com

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