HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jack@cscdec.cs.com (Jack Hudler)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.sys.sun
Subject: Re: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:47:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas, Texas.

In article <1992Jul16.163132.1672@charon.amdahl.com> perry@pls.amdahl.com (Perry The Cynic) writes:
>
>Reality check. Sun's license server (at least the Beta 2 version) checks out
>a license for a *minimum* of 15 minutes. That means that after *you* run cc,
>nobody else can use that license until 15 minutes after you stopped using it.
>That limit is enforced by the software (you can increase it but not decrease
>it), and I'm told that it is *official policy* of Sun. In other words, they
>*want* it to be that way.
>
I'll have to admit that I probably missed an important point in the original
posting. But at most development sites I thnk the ratio of license's to
programming stations could be around 1:4.

However, you point about the license linger time is not accurate.
Version 2.22 of the license manager has a feature called "license lingering"
This feature allows you to specify how long a license will linger beyond
the program exit. Also the granularity is about 1 minute, with worst case
about 2 minutes.

-- 
Jack Hudler - Computer Support Corporation - Dallas,Texas - jack@cs.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.sys.sun
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:25:54 GMT

In article <1236@eplunix.UUCP> das@eplunix.UUCP (David Steffens) writes:
>
>many times "cc" is invoked in a typical makefile.  If the "cc" license were
>released at the end of _each_ invocation, you would have to reaquire it
>for _each_ module that was to be compiled!  

Of course. Some delay in releasing it is a good idea. On the other hand, while 
I don't know what your Makefiles do, most of the ones I've seen go straight 
into the next cc without more than a couple of seconds' lag after the previous 
one finishes. Unless you have a lot of *rapid* cycles of: big make - run oops! 
- edit edit edit - big make, 15 minutes is just not needed. In most cases it
will be more than 15 minutes from start to finish, and in that period of time
other people could be using the compiler.

Note also that, thanks to the nature of make, 90% of the time your "big" makes
will only be compiling a small fraction of all the possible files, followed
by linking.

>My experience with several license servers here is that it takes 10-15 seconds
>on a busy network to acquire a license and about the same time to release it.

Hmmm ... not my experience, but we don't have anything that uses Sun's license 
server. PV-Wave, MathCAD, edt, all need perhaps 5 seconds tops. And our net-
works are *very* busy.

>In article <1992Jul16.222630.6897@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>,
>rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul16.163132.1672@charon.amdahl.com>,
>> perry@pls.amdahl.com (Perry The Cynic) writes:
>>>That limit is enforced by the software (you can increase it but not decrease)
>>Hey, Father Sun knows best ...

>In this case, I believe they just might :-)
>On the other hand, 15 minutes minimum for the timeout period seems a trifle
>long to me, too.  I'd probably choose 2-5.  

So in other words, you don't believe they know best. :-)

While I agree about not allowing it to be set to 0, it ought to be *tunable*
so the person who knows the site's needs best can make it as useful as possible
for that site.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Xref: sparky comp.unix.solaris:103 comp.sys.sun.apps:1447 comp.sys.sun.misc:3272 comp.sys.sun.admin:4863
From: neptune@icd.teradyne.com (Alan Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: GNU Emacs for Solaris 2.0?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:55:05 GMT
Reply-To: neptune@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA


Has anyone successfully built GNU Emacs for Solaris 2.0?  Are there
any patches or other pieces needed to build it?

E-mail to me, I will summarize.

-ams
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.sys.sun
From: bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad)
Subject: Re: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:22:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.093835.19869@cscdec.cs.com> jack@cscdec.cs.com (Jack Hudler) writes:

>I get the impression that you think influence from the DOS world is bad.
>Pity you sould have such a closed mind. But the fact is, product development
>is driven by a need. As long as 'vi' is around the programmers editor
>market suffers from the Good Enough syndrome. Its good enough (vi) so 
>therefore why create anything else.

	MS-DOS's "edlin" doesn't seem to have killed off WordPerfect...
(Okay, "edlin" never was "good enough"....)

				Bill Bogstad
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: schuster@rhds01.rz.fht-esslingen.de (Thilo Schuster)
Subject: Re: dxpsview error
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Esslingen
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:25:32 GMT

Hello Netlanders,

a few days before I reported a bug in the display postscript of the
Xws-Server on 5000/125 with PX-Option and Ultrix 4.2A.

Now I've got a bug fix from a friendly DEC-consultant for this problem, 
and, dxpsview works fine.

greets,

	   Thilo Schuster


-- 
Thilo Schuster                      Fachhochschule fuer Technik Esslingen
                                    Rechenzentrum
E-Mail:                             Flandernstrasse 101
schuster@rhds01.rz.fht-esslingen.de 73oo Esslingen (Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: duha@rekctl.biomed.mcgill.ca (Jan A. Duha)
Subject: Re: dxpsview error
Organization: Neuromuscular Control Lab
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:00:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.125913.1248@news.belwue.de> schuster@rhds01.rz.fht-esslingen.de (Thilo Schuster) writes:

>Hello Netlanders,

>we've got a dxpsview problem, too. After an upgrade to Ultrix 4.2A, we
>have to use the Xws Server on our DEC Station 5000/125 with PX
>Graphic-Option and a color monitor.

We have never had much success with the DEC postscript previewer on our
DECstation 5000/200 (Ultrix 4.2). BUT we do run ghostscript (the GNU
postscript previewer) and it has worked flawlessly from the start, and
was painless to install.  Recommend, it should be available from any
GNU ftp site (perhaps try rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de ?).

Jim Trainor
email:  trainor@rekpmx.biomed.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: abstine@hobbes.erc.clarkson.edu (Art Stine)
Subject: what are some good params for dumping to an exabyte?
Reply-To: abstine@hobbes.erc.clarkson.edu
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:29:12 GMT

Can anyone tell me what some good parameters are for dumping to an
exabyte (2.3G and 5.0G) drive in order to get the most out of a tape?

thanks

---
Art Stine
Sr Network Engineer
Clarkson U
ABStine@Omnigate.Clarkson.Edu

Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: coar@Nephi.Enet.DEC.Com (Rodent of Unusual Size)
Subject: How to use nslookup to go from IP address to name?
Summary: nslookup n.n.n.n returns n.n.n.n, not name.domain
Keywords: nslookup, network, IP address, name
Organisation: Employed by (*NOT* speaker for) DEC, Boxborough, MA, U.S.A.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:37:59 GMT


    This may be a FAQ, in which case please accept my apologies; I've just
    added this group.

    How can I use nslookup to translate an IP address into a fully-qualified
    host name?  It will do the reverse, but any time I feed it an address, it
    just parrots it back to me.

    #ken    :-)}	Jeratol the Chaotic

Coar@Nephi.Enet.DEC.Com	 | All opinions herein contained, stated or implied,
Coar@DECUS.Org		 | are solely those of the author.  And he's fullovem.
Coar@Eisner.DECUS.Org	 | `... it was mine art, ... that made gape the pine 
Massachusetts, USA       | and let thee out.'  - Prospero (_The Tempest_)
From: robm@ataraxia.Berkeley.EDU (Rob McNicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: problem with Sun YP server
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:00:36
Organization: Computer Systems Support Group, U.C. Berkeley, Berserkeley, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ataraxia.berkeley.edu

Hello everyone,

I have a problem using a Sun as a YP server for my DECstations.  The
problem manifests itself in a strange way: When trying to rlogin, if
the default login name (or the login name specified with the -l flag
to rlogin) is a valid login, then the connection will be immediately
closed after you would normally be allowed in (i.e. after specifying a
password, or after the .rhosts would be consulted).  In fact, the only
way to login is to use

		rlogin <host> -l <bogus name>

hit return at the "Password:" prompt, and then enter a valid login
name and password.

When I called DEC, they said "Sorry, it's an unsupported
configuration" (having a Sun as the YP master, that is).  Does anyone
have any more useful advice?

Below is some relevant configuration information.  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

-Rob

YP Master:
	Sun 3/280, SunOS 4.1.1u1, 16M memory

YP Client:
	DECstation 3100, ULTRIX V4.2 (Rev. 96)

/etc/svc.conf has the following yp-related entries:

	aliases=yp,local
	group=yp,local
	passwd=yp,local


/etc/passwd ends with:

+::0:0:::

and /etc/group contains only:

+:
--
Rob McNicholas     	    Technical & Computing Services, EECS, U.C. Berkeley
robm@ataraxia.berkeley.edu  Voice: 510/642-8633  FAX: 510/643-7846
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: MANPATH?
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:48:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul21.204820.24968
Distribution: comp.unix.ultrix
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

Ultrix's man (as well as many other programs) are very old, and you
will be much happier if you replace them with free versions that work
better.

The program we use is called "man-1.1", written by jwe@che.utexas.edu.
You can ftp it from ward.che.utexas.edu:/pub/unix/man-1.1.tar.Z. It's
copylefted, so you can use it with no problems.

It works great under Ultrix - I think it was written with Ultrix in
mind. It supports MANPATH and lots of other nifty features. 

In fact, you'll probably end up not needing to set MANPATH at all. It
supports a PATH->MANPATH automatic mapping feature. It's set up here
so that if you have /local/bin/gnu in your PATH, then man will
automatically know to look in /local/man/gnu for man pages, etc etc.

It's really great software. The only problem I've had with it was that
the makewhatis script didn't do too well with Ultrix man pages. If you
have similar problems, send me mail and I can send you a hacked
version that I had better luck with.
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/   You're free, so anything could happen, so happy birthday
From: gaer@puccini.harvard.edu (Art Gaer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: utmp error
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:54:57 GMT
Organization: Statistical & Data Analysis Center, Harvard University

We seem to be having a problem with utmp running under ULTRIX RISC
4.2A.  utmp doesn't seem to properly record the most recent logins
after a fair number (approx. 25 or so) people have logged in.  It
fails such that "who am i" simply returns a blank, although whoami
returns the correct information.  Unfortunately, this problem is
occurring on our main email server and causes a homegrown email
program we use to fail.

Any ideas?

-----------
Art Gaer
Statistical & Data Analysis Center, Dept. of Biostatistics
Harvard University, School of Public Health
Internet: gaer@sdac.harvard.edu   Telephone: (617) 432-2521
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: schemers@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roland Schemers)
Subject: Re: 3100 upgrade to 5000/125
Summary: /dev/mouse
Organization: Distributed Computing Group, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:04:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.234700.6924@leland.Stanford.EDU> schemers@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roland Schemers) writes:
>We have a couple of DECstation 3100's that were upgraded to DECstation
>5000/125's:
>  DECstation 3100         DECstation 5000/125
>  ---------------         -------------------
>  Color                   HX board ( fb0 at ibus0, module PMAGB-BA 1280X1024)
>  RZ57/RZ23               RZ57/RZ23
>  24 MEG                  32 MEG
>

Of course minutes after posting this (and hours of screwing around with
the 3100, some problems related to custom kerenl code doing IP multicast stuff)
I decided to see if /dev/mouse could be causing the problem. Sure enough,
after doing a rm /dev/mouse, and:

mknod /dev/mouse c 45 1

The X server came right up. I thought doing "doconfig" without specifying
a config file would rebuild the devices correctly, but I guess not.

-- 
Roland J. Schemers III              |            Networking Systems
Systems Programmer                  |            168 Pine Hall   (415)-723-6740
Distributed Computing Group         |            Stanford, CA 94305-4122
Stanford University                 |            schemers@Slapshot.Stanford.EDU
From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Ken Olsen leaves.
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:12:28 GMT
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

Well, Ken Olsen leaves DEC. Gues what this logistics/finance manager they will
put in his place has to say about OS's. Logistics and finance are just two of
Digitals problems...

I hope Ken starts a company "VMS forever". I really like his stubborness on
the issue (even if I don't agree).

DEC however, is not sure to survive. It's a giant, and giants take a long time
to fall. DEC must take drastic steps if it is to survive.
-- 
wierda@ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) || I speak for myself and not for my employer.
(+31) 2154 84415/(+31) 35 833539  || Support the League for Programming Freedom!
	"If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
	Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: schedler@src.dec.com (Richard Schedler)
Subject: Re: Will DEC ever fix newfs/mkfs ??
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:19:59 GMT

|> maybe one day (or should we all just remove our news partitions?)

Maybe this will help with your news partitions; it's what I use:

    newfs -v -n -i 512 -b 4096 -f 512 -c 8 /dev/rrz1c rz58

This will give you 512 bytes per inode, 4k blocks and 512 byte fragments.
The trick it to decrease the number of cylinders per group to 8.  

-- 
Richard Schedler			<schedler@src.dec.com>
Systems Research Center			...decwrl!schedler
Digital Equipment Corporation
From: buhle@mscf.med.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: PHASE ERROR - what does this mean
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:59:12 GMT
Organization: Univ of Penn - Med School Computer Facility

I recently upgraded a DECstation 5000/200 from Ultrix V4.1 to V4.2a. When I 
went to restore my user files from several multi-TK50 sets, the following error
was generated from cpio:

Phase Error - Get help!

This error was independent of the order of the tapes, the vintage of the tapes 
(several were tried), the TK50 tape drive (another was tired), etc.

What does this mean? HOW DO I GET THE DATA BACK?

The tapes were generated with:

find . -print | cpio -ovB > /dev/rmt0a

and were reviewed via cpio -itB < /dev/rmt0a

Any constructive thoughts would be appreciated! [if this in the FAQ, please 
direct me to it's location!]

Loren Buhle
BUHLE@XRT.UPENN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: magoo@pvi.UUCP (Tim Lentz x255)
Subject: Re: LAT/Telnet Gateway
Organization: Precision Visuals Inc., Boulder, Colorado
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:13:11 GMT

tannerc@cu18.crl.aecl.ca (Chris Tanner) writes:
> Greetings
> 
> Is there a way of finding out who is using LAT/TELNET gateways, and
> logging that information for accounting (etc) purposes. I have three
> tty's configured as a LAT/TELNET gateway and found them all busy today,
> but could not find out who was using them.
> 

With the LAT/Telnet gateway I think the best you can do is

1) lcp -p /dev/tty0	(or your device name)

	This will tell you where the connection to that tty came from,
	the VAX host (set host/lat) or the terminal server port.

2) netstat 		(look for the hostname.telnet entries)

	This will tell you about the outgoing sessions and their destinations.

Hope this helps.
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
boulder!pvi!magoo				Just a fool waiting on the wrong
System Mgr./Engineer I				block. Putting a little ZEP in 
Precision Visuals, Inc. Boulder, Co		your step.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: shewchun@boomer.waterloo.edu (Dave Shewchun)
Subject: pm graphics device driver under Ultrix 4.2A?
Keywords: ultrix 4.2 pm graphics
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:51:49 GMT

We recently upgraded our DS3100 from Ultrix 4.1 to Ultrix 4.2A.  Under
4.1 we were using the "pm" graphics device driver.  However, when I put
this device in the kernel config file for 4.2A, the kernel build fails
at link time (can't find pmvinit and pmdriver).  Has this driver been
replaced by something, or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "will do TCP/IP for food" Ranum)
Subject: Re: How do you cat together files without getting subdirs?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:22:07 GMT

wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com writes:

[...sh example deleted...]

>That's the Bourne Shell version. I'm not sure that you can do it directly
>on the command line in the C shell, but this as a script would work:

[...csh example delete...]

	"I'm not sure you can do it directly on the command line in C shell"
kind of says it all in a nutshell, doesn't it? ;)  C'mon... If we're going to
encourage people to use arcane programming languages because the shell is
old and passe' let's encourage them to use perl. ;)

mjr.
From: delamper@brsux0.bro.dec.com (Delamper Lukas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: DEC's new policy on upgrades
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:11:38 GMT
Reply-To: delamper@brsux0.bro.dec.com (Delamper Lukas)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



I'm pretty surprised of your reaction, especially since you belong
to a *university*. Ask your sales people about the DECcampus programme.
I can't include the full details here but it is a *very* attractive
programme to give universities access to all dec software. And you
will get upgrades as well, of course.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: even more slip questions...
From: ejones@desire.wright.edu
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:27:26 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

Some additional questions about SLIP:

I thought I heard somewhere at sometime that there is an undocumented flag that
you can tell slattach to do header compression on a DECstation. Is this true?
Is it the -c parameter. I timed things with it and without it and there is no
difference. It didn't give me an error when I put the -c on there.

I am using CUTCP v2.2d. There is an option in the config.tel for vjc header
compression. Is the same as the compression that may exist by using the -c
on slattach? 

Is slip usually this dog-dirt slow over 9600? 

Thanks


	Ed Jones
        Signal Detection Lab
        Wright State University
	ejones@desire.wright.edu
From: Volkmar.Grote@Stollmann.DE (Volkmar Grote)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Remote Backups
Keywords: remote,backups
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:48:36 GMT
Organization: Stollmann GmbH, D-2000 Hamburg 50, Germany
Originator: vg@sup

tmenner@sei.cmu.edu (Thomas Menner) writes:

| 1. warns users, then does a fake shutdown
| 2. restricts login access thereafter
| 3. mt -f /dev/nrmt0h rew 
|    dump 0uf - /file_sys | compress fv | rsh rem_tape dd of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=64k
|    {dump subsequent file systems to /dev/nrmt0h, then rewind tape}
| 4. get rid of /etc/nologin

| I'm interested in finding out what problems there might be with this
| scheme, or if anyone has a better scheme (that doesn't rely on opser
| or single-user mode).  The only problem I foresee with this is when
| a file is open (which I hope to control by restricting logins during
| the dump).  Any other unforeseen bugs?  Suggestions?

How about using gnutar? It is able to use remote tapes via TCP/IP,
can do level controlled backups and needs no piping for compress
by doing that internally. We are rather happy with it.

	Volkmar
From: j1h9453@eagle.tamu.edu (Joel Andrew Huddleston)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Looking for PD editor pre-compiled for 5000/200
Keywords: editor, x windows, 5000/200
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:30:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Jul21.153003.2081
Reply-To: zod@zeus.tamu.edu
Organization: Academic Computing Services

In article <BrJt4y.DBC@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, odonovan@sciborg.UWaterloo.CA (Chris O'Donovan) writes:
|>            Also, I would like file manager type X
|> utility too|>  - any suggestions?

Try dxue.  Of course, you will have to suffer with all the decwindows widgets
that are STILL in it even though most of the other stuff from dec is motif.

|> Chris O'Donovan

-- 
Joel Huddleston  eka j1h9453@eagle.tamu.edu
     Peace: Not just the absence of war but the absence of fear.
       War: Not just the absence of peace but the absence of cowardice.
Disclaimer: Not just the absence of blame but the absence of responsibility.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: bambi@bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes)
Subject: Re: Will DEC ever fix newfs/mkfs ??
Organization: ITS, Bond University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:15:42 GMT

schedler@src.dec.com (Richard Schedler) writes:

>This will give you 512 bytes per inode, 4k blocks and 512 byte fragments.
>The trick it to decrease the number of cylinders per group to 8.  


Yup, I know.  I had a look at the old 3.0 sources to see how the number
of inodes was calculated.  You must admit though, if the manual says you
can change it using a particular option, it would be nice if it worked.
Stuffing around with cylinder group sizes doesn't help the person who
either 1) has no idea what that implies, or 2) doesn't have the sources
to figure out what's going on.

Thanks for the response Richard.  Maybe you could lean on someone in
your org that could add the odd line of code to enable the option?

Oh well, it isn't a perfect world after all .....


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From: quantum@milton.u.washington.edu (Jean Valjean)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: "Etime" command
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:17:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul26.041744.2796
Reply-To: quantum@u.washington.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Dear Netters,

I wonder if there is any command on AIX equivalent to the "etime"
command on ULTRIX.

Please e-mail me at quantum@u.washington.edu

Tsung