From: ib19@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: re: Pol Pot? No, but Shining Path
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:59:18 GMT


This is in answer to their answer to my answer
(this gets complicated very fast...)
(may be they wont read this |-)

 Falsehoods on Pol Pot and Shining Path 
 from the Maoist Internationalist Movement (MIM)
on Jan 5, 1993, ib19@vaxb.acs.unt.edu wrote:

Re: "no MIM sino MAMones"

The answer was already witnessed by a horrified world after the fall of the
K'mer Rouge and the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia some years back. Some of us
do not forget. None of us could appologize for such horror. Only a sick
mind would ever promote it.

This is the nightmare Peru will experience should Sendero Luminoso take
over. This is the part of Sendero Luminoso's political philosophy
that their spokesmen/women would not mention. This is at the foundation
of Abimael Guzman's thoughts (Sendero Luminoso's leader, now in jail).
This is not wild imagination but documented and published fact.

> MIM replies:
 
> No, once again you confuse bourgeois interpretation--i.e. fantasy--

I sure hope so... 
But you forget we can see the bloodshed Sendero Luminoso has brought to Peru
and you know, as well as we do, that it is only the tip of the iceberg
Sendero Luminoso is about to do in order to secure their _revolution_.

It is possible to compare Hitler with Pol Pot and come out ahead because
of their acts. The same is true with Abimael Gonzalo and Sendero. By
sticking to the obvious you rename reality and call it fantasy. 



> Since Pol Pot's name keeps coming up...
> ... if you continue posting what would be lies from here on in, 
> we will sink to the level of the Pol-Pot-baiters and address the 
> issue in full length on this conference, since your statement would 
> demonstrate the need for it.

No, Pol pot is not the issue here.  The violence of Sendero Luminoso is.
Again, that violence is as insane as others the world has already seen as
the product of some sick minds. And some of us refuse to forget it.
While others don't want the world to remember its horror.

Would you also kindly explain your frase
          "...we will sink to the level of..."
  and expand on it?




>> To end,
>> How come, in a list like this where the main language used is spanish,
>> MIM's posts are in English?
>> Because they are trying to reach mainly English speakers.
>> They realize latin-americans --who know spanish-- know better than to
>> believe their "unbiased" reporting.  We do know it too well.
>> Also, they ask for money as a subscription to their "unbiased" reporting
>> that they are posting for "free" here?
>> Smart fishing? --or hopes that fish ain't smart, uh?

> MIM replies:
 
> 1. MIM has posted Sendero Luminoso literature and other related
> literature in SPANISH in this conference and around the world.

	I don't doubt this. But I havn't read them.
	My fault again, I suppose.

> 2. Maybe if multilingual people like you worked for progress
> instead of against it, we could always post in both languages
> the way your message did so well.

        How come I sense some irony here? I am sure many
        multilingual people are of the same political persuation
        as you all are.

> 3. As for dumb fish, it is the people who repeat fantasies as fact
> who are counting on that.

        Strongly agree with this. 
        As I also agree with those who defend your freedom of speech.
        and your right to see a fact, any fact, and convert it to
        fantasy, any fantasy. Just stay within the rules because
        breaking the rules destroys the game. 
        (But that is the intention, I forgot!)

        Congratulations!!! You are not asking for money this time!!!
	You are closer now to a less capitalistic approach to posting.
        I know you will manage just fine. 

       As for me,  May you never again hear from me. This is a wish.
	
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