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From: maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: KSU-KU question re: one-sided rivalries
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:58:36 CDT
Distribution: us
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1b4go7INNhef@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, jlance@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (J. Lance Porter) writes:
> 
> Granted, the KSU-KU rivalry means zip to anyone else but
> in the words of a local sportscaster, it's a big, big, big, 
> big, big game here in Kansas.
> 
> K-Staters really hate KU.  The sunflower bowl (formerly 
> toilet bowl) is our biggest game, but KU fans seem
> to regard the KU-Missouri matchup as a bigger deal.  Why?
> 
> Other posts considered how one dominated team would tend
> to take a rivalry more seriously than the other, but that
> can't explain this one.  If it is basketball related, 
> why would KU care since they have (presumably) dominated MU.
> 
> KU fans, please hate us as much as we hate you!
> 
> 
> -- 
> /****************************************************************
> J. Lance Porter            'Engineers do it without knowing why.'
> jlance@matt.ksu.edu  
> ****************************************************************/



Take it for granted, we don't not hate you as much as you seem to think
we don't not hate you.

Kansas Mary
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 1AA Poll Thoughts and Questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:17:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: mccall.1992Oct13.151729
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Oct13.181743.331@wuecl.wustl.edu>, dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias) writes:
>I hope, in the name of consistency, that if #2 Villanova beats 
>#12 Delaware this weekend that the pollsters don't suddenly
>change their ways (I also hope that Villanova doesn't win).
>
That's for sure.  Go Panthers(of the UNI variety)!!!
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From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:39:43 GMT

R. Jayakrishnan (jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
:   But seriously, when will the aggies stop crapping about how bad the
:   Texas team is ?   Our losses have only been against two top-15 teams,
:   and at least one of the two games we could have won, but for the QB and

Oh, yeah!  Well, our losses have only been against ...  Oops, I almost
forgot, we don't have any losses.  <grin>

David
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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:13:42 GMT

owen@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.202825.200@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr) writes:

>> 	I would say that most often the biggest rivalries are between the local
>> cow-college (land grant institution with an Agriculture School) and the
>> major University in that state.  This is certainly true of Ole Miss and
>> Mississippi State (for all the dawgs out there who want to flame me for
>> this, I'm an MSU fan, born and bred in Columbus).


Moo!

>Of course, in Alabama, Auburn is both the cow-college *and* the major
>University ;-).

Ditto for MSU.


David

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|                        |  that we have ever had to face?"                    |
From: jim@pustule.b29.ingr.com (Jim Weeks)
Subject: Re: Miss St 14, Auburn 7
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:57:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.214500.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Oct14.170116.15250@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
|> > In article <1992Oct14.073004.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
|> >>
|> >>I hope Pat Dye taped the MS-FL game.  I wonder if he can afford ESPN?
|> > 
|> >     Shhhhh David!  Don't let anyone down there hear you say "taped".
|> > You'll be booted off-campus.  Can he afford ESPN?  Well, he *is* on
|> > the board of directors at Colonial Bank, isn't he?
|> > 
|> > --
|> > Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
|> 
|> Hmm.  I wonder if he can help me get a loan......
|> 
|> -- 
|> David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 


    'fraid you're outta luck, remember he is no longer Athletic Loan Officer
  only the ATM...But hey...Maybe Jackie Sherral (sp?) could help.
-- 
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Ph. (205)730-4494                     Intergraph Corp.
Fax (205)730-6239                     Huntsville, AL 35894-0001
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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:00:48 GMT

In article <2ADD770C.19522@news.service.uci.edu>
jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
 
>In article <1992Oct13.223617.29322@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>>In article <1687FA901.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>>[about the A&M-UT series]
>>>Perhaps you would *really* like it for us to continue the last 8 years
>>>worth of win/loss ratio?  Shouldn't take all that much longer to
>>>catch up, eh?
>>
>>In the past 8 years, A&M has a 0.875 winning percentage over the cattle.
>>At that rate, the series will be tied in 2032.
 
 
That's even better!  That means that I'll have 30 years of
being able to run the tea-sips noses in it   :-)
 
 
>  But seriously, when will the aggies stop crapping about how bad the
>  Texas team is ?
 
Because they are!
 
 
>  Also, considering that UT is your only remaining opponent with a chance
>  to be in the top 25, isn't it in your ineterest to say nice things about
>  UT ?
 
Naw.  It's against our religion.
 
 
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From: killer@robin.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: question: rules concerning missed/blocked fieldgoals
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:45:21 GMT

In <3p=pc7a@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>players never touched it but the refs blew the play dead.  Has
>there been a rule change?? I mean that ball should be in play 
>until it goes out of bounds.

Any kicked ball is dead when it touches ground behind or on the goal
line.  It doesn't matter wheter or not it is a free kick or a 
scrimmage kick.
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From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:05:28 GMT

scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:

>beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:
>>William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>You're all wrong!
>>>The best marching band was my high school marching band!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>PLEASE!!!  You must be joking...
>
>Naw, Jeff, I'm dead serious!  My 63 member high school band went up
>against Notre Dame's 150+ member band and blew them away!

IMHO there are few college marching bands that could compete with a top high
school marching band.  The reason is there is no competition at the col-
legiate level.  When I was in high school, there was a lot of incentive to
perform well, because you wanted win competitions, and show up rival schools.
When I was in college, we were just a performance band.  Football half-time
shows were all there was to look forward to.  The band was composed mostly
music majors, who were very musically talented.  Therefore we sounded good,
but sound is only a small part of a marching band.  I soon lost interest in
marching band because of what I missed from the high school level.
From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Is Rice underrated? (was Re: UT at Austin seriously???)
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:55:38 GMT

In article <Bw2J17.I1F@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
>I still think Rice is underrated.  A Channel 11
>cameraman has footage of the onside kick that Rice made that the ref
>said Rice recovered out of bounds.  The ball was shown to be in
>bounds.  Had that happened, Rice had 1:30 left (and was already close to
>field goal range) and the score could have been 24-23.

Could have, but when was the last time Rice actually CONVERTED a
game-winning opportunity against Texas? Besides, Texas only played
well offensively in spurts... they "slacked" whenevr they had a lead.
I would say that playing well against Texas that day is no indication
of whether Rice is actually good--they _did_ lose, and it _was_ at home...

>UT's performance against Rice leads me to believe that either Rice is
>underrated or the entire SWC just plain sucks (minus A&M).  I tend to
>lean more towards the latter :)

I think the truth lies somewhere in between. Rice is not underrated--they
are underachieving. My SWC picks in the SWC Previews have always shown
that I have (had?) a lot of faith in Rice... but they never seem to play up to
their potential. They have the talent to beat Duke (they lost), drill SMU
(they won a close one), etc...

I say in between because I don't think the latter is completely true. A&M
sucks, too. ;-) They just don't suck nearly as bad as everyone else.
Seriously, I think A&M is overrated, but they will not get exposed because
they are forced to play in the SWC. They haven't shown the offense to
really put anybody away, and therefore they are candidates for an upset
every week until Granger improves. (If he does, then A&M will _deserve_
its ranking.)

>This season:  ACC 2  SWC 0

Yeah, but what is that saying? ;-)

>(actually, omitting A&M, the SWC's nonconference record as a whole
> seems prety dismal)

At least it got a little better after the first week!

Jay Boisseau

-- 

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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: bowl alliance question
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:00:48 GMT

 
Question: What would happen in the unlikely senerio that
1)  Alabama & Texas A&M are the only undefeated teams in the aliance
2)  Miami & Texas A&M are the only undefeated teams in the aliance
3)  Miami & Alabama are the only undefeated teams in the aliance
4)  Miami, Alabama & Texas A&M are all undefeated teams in the aliance
 
 
Who would play who in what bowl?
 
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From: ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:57:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.200252.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.125810.28269@walter.cray.com>, kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin) writes:
> > In article <92282.124255JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >>Though the Bama-Tennessee game is a pretty big rivalry, it just
> >>doesn't compare to Alabama-Auburn.  Tennessee's biggest rivalry is
> >>
> > By the way, lots of us from Auburn consider the AU-UGA game to be a 
> > pretty intense rivalry also.  Let's hear from some UGA fans on this.
> 
> I can't speak for other Auburn fans, but I put the Georgia game at about
> 1/200th the importance of the bama game.  How about the rest of you 5 or 6
> Auburn fans who regularly post??  You too Floyd!!!!!
> David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 

The Auburn/Bama game is a life or death situation in this state.  While 
Auburn/Georgia is a really big game, it by no means is as intense as 
AU/UA.  I even think the Auburn/Florida game may be bigger than 
Auburn/Georgia.  

Bob (It's great to be a Gator Hater!) Ellington
From: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: T-Shirt,anti-fsu,wide-right
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:17:25 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Oct15.135947.23216@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu writes:
>"  ... I don't need this shit!"         Bobby Dodd Stadium, Athens
							     ^^^^^^
Careful there, James. Even though it is cleverly disguised, the
woof-gods are all-seeing. 

David Poore
poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu
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From: holt@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Richard Holt)
Subject: Big Game Tickets
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:50:31 GMT

I have two tickets to the Cal/Stanford game. These are
for the Stanford section (Sec. KK).

I will trade these for two tickets on the Cal side.

Richard Holt
From: ds4@north6.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The NEW Penn State MNC Scenario!
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:13:09 GMT

In article <92280.002529KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>, KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
|> In article <92279.183450MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu>, mark rieker
|> <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
|> 
|> >       Face it 'cane fans its all over.  You barely escaped Arizona & got
|> >       lucky with Florida State (again).  With Medearis out O.J. is gonna
|> >       run wild.  The Orange bowl is cozy compared to 98,000 drunk Penn
|>                                                               ^^^^^
|> Speak for yourself, buddy.  REAL football fans don't -need- alcohol to act
|> like idiot banshees.

You are doing a good job of that.

|> ------------
|> Kurt Ludwick
|> ------------

-ds4
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From: chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 20:48:56 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Keywords: #1 Huskies Vs. #2 Wolverines in the Rose Bowl!!!!!
Originator: chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu


In article <92537@netnews.upenn.edu>, taoc@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao) writes:
> Here's the AP Top 25 teams with records through Oct. 11.
> 
>                    Record
>  1. Washington      5-0-0
>  2. Miami, Fla      5-0-0
>  3. Michigan        4-0-1
>  4. Alabama         6-0-0
>  5. Texas A&M       5-0-0
>  6. Florida St.     5-1-0
>  7. Colorado        5-0-0
>  8. Stanford        5-1-0
>  9. Penn St.        5-1-
> 10. Georgia         5-1-0
> 11. Nebraska        4-1-0
> 12. Notre Dame      4-1-1
> 13. Tennessee       5-1-0
> 14. Syracuse        4-1-0
> 15. Mississippi St. 4-1-0
> 16. Georgia Tech    4-1-0
> 17. Virginia        5-1-0
> 18. Southern Cal    2-1-1
> 19. Clemson         3-2-0
> 20. Boston College  4-0-1
> 21. N. Carolina St. 5-2-0
> 22. Washington St.  5-0-0
> 23. Florida         2-2-0
> 24. West Virginia   3-0-2
> 25. Kansas          4-1-0
> 
> 
> My God.  There is *JUSTICE*.  I don't think Miami deserves to be #1 this year.
> Miami wins simply because of sheer lucks (wow, how come so many guys missed
> so much field goals against Miami?)
> 
> And playing high school girl football teams most of the time and sneak by
> two top 10 teams by sheer luck DO NOT qualify as #1!
> 
> 
> 
	Wow!  What a surprise!  I thought that AP was biased toward the east
coast teams.  I knew there were going to be split voting this week, but
I didn't expect AP to vote UW #1.  And I didn't expected the coaches to
vote UW #2.  I had thought that the coaches are biased toward Washington.
Things are sure weird these days!

- Chung Yang
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: John.Cooper.must.die.die.die
Date: 12 Oct 1992 16:31:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

>>> Anyway, back to my Cooper rant.  People hated Bruce because he took
12-0 teams and went 9-3.  We now have Cooper taking 10-2 teams and going 7-4.
Ah, well.  Who's available to coach

I recall most OSU fans said Bruce was a poor recruiter and the team would be
much better when Cooper has all of his recruits on the team.


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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:27:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.020518.15277@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.174846.8232@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>*
>*talk about marching bands.  The college football board unfortunately the
>*most related thing to marching bands.  So when you blow off steam like
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Ahh, excuse me, but bull****.  Try alt.drumcorps if you want to talk
>music.
>

Dear Brother.    

Don't you know the first rule of knee-jerk net-responses?
When tempted to use expeletives, wait a few minutes and see if
your post still makes sense.  Yours does not.

To the issue in question:

1.  Marching Bands are not the same as drum corps.  You've been in
    both and should know better than that.

2.  not everyone gets alt.drumcorps.  Some of your more conservative
    administrations are paranoid that the parents of freshmen will get
    upset at their young ones reading alt.sex or alt.scientology or
    something.

3.  In light of the above, this is the most relevant place to discuss
    it.


Personally, I like the discussions but think they should go elsewhere.
Maybe the r.s.f.c band folks and the alt.drumcorp folks could put out
a call-for-votes for rec.music.people.who.march.while.playing.

>-- 
>Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
>Math Graduate Student
>N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
>jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls

-- 
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Posing nude in _Playboy_ was "probably the best time of my life - except for
when I found God." - Jessica Hahn
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: North American or Allied, Gibbs choice.
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:00:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Oct13.030058.10188
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <19921012204552ASDXPSC@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU> ASDXPSC <ASDXPSC@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU> writes:
>00000100 
>00000200 
>00000300Hello Netland,
>00000400 
>00000500     Hope Gary's wife got the beer stains out of his shirt.  It's
>00000600all over next Saturday after Colorado administers the Coup de grace.
>00000700Stan Abel is the only person in Norman who can lose consistently and
>00000800still hang around.  It's time to start the draft Jackie movement.
>00000900 
>00001000 
>00001100                     poor sooners!
>00001200 
>00001300 
>00001700 

Oh hell, even I don't know what to say about this one.

- goober (i'm just wondering what happended to lines 1400-1600) smith
From: jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:50:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.223617.29322@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <1687FA901.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>[about the A&M-UT series]
>>Perhaps you would *really* like it for us to continue the last 8 years
>>worth of win/loss ratio?  Shouldn't take all that much longer to
>>catch up, eh?
>
>In the past 8 years, A&M has a 0.875 winning percentage over the cattle.  
>At that rate, the series will be tied in 2032.
>
>In the past 8 days, the percentage of cattle dung spewed forth into this 
>newsgroups has increase by a factor of at least 10.  At that rate, r.s.f.c.
>will turn into alt.closet.cattle.trying.to.convince.everyone.that.we've.been.
>proud.of.being.cows.all.along in approximately 16 days.
>
>- goober (i think i'll grill up a nice big steak tonight) smith


  Do all your talking before the thanksgiving days aggies..  After that
  it will be 0.666 A&M winning percentage for the last 6 years and
  0.666 UT winning percentage for the last 3 years. Of course, after
  the 1993 thanksgiving, it will be 0.75 for UT in 4 years and 0.7 for
  aggies in 10 years... After 1997, it will be 0.5 for both teams in 14 yrs.
  Then the aggies will stop talking about short-term or long-term winning 
  percentages.

  But seriously, when will the aggies stop crapping about how bad the
  Texas team is ?   Our losses have only been against two top-15 teams,
  and at least one of the two games we could have won, but for the QB and
  the team taking time to adjust to the new offensive schemes. Did any
  of you farmers *watch* the OU game ?  Now, if OU beats Colorado this week,
  will you farmers change your opinion (oops... that is a big if.. I just
  remembered that the OU coach is Gary Gibberish...)

  Also, considering that UT is your only remaining opponent with a chance
  to be in the top 25, isn't it in your ineterest to say nice things about
  UT ?  I guess I shouldnt expect such wisdom from those who never sip tea !

  To goober:  stop picking against UT wins sir, you are dropping two far
              below Jay in your SWC picks !  Here is my advise: pick UT to
              win every game till thanksgiving. I know I cannot ask you to
              do that for the thanksgiving game, but I know you will drop a
              game there again, though.

  GO HORNS !

  Jay  (The one from California. Yes, I drink tea; imported Darjeeling brand)

  R. Jayakrishnan
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