From: biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:41:47 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

dsembr01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Darren S. Embry) writes:

>In <cfM6OOK00awBQ0vGdp@andrew.cmu.edu> Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Anthrax-
>>	As has been pointed out, Kiss is probably the favorite band of this
>>group or at least of Scott Ian (who also listens to rap. Arrrggghhhh!
>>Everyone knows black people can't produce good music. We have the word

>YOU JUST NULLIFIED YOUR CREDIBILITY RIGHT THERE, YOU MORONIC RACIST
>SCUM-WAD!  Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix.  Just in case you're not really as up
>on metal music as you thought you were (and apparently you're not!) he was
>black, okay?  You may have heard of Living Colour, also.  

Typical G'n'P fan from what I can tell so far...pretty racist.

[Deletions]

>>S.O.D.
>>	I am including this group here mainly because they did a Nirvana cover
>>tune on their Live at Budokan album. Also this group features Scott Ian
>>(see Anthrax above). They also did a Joan Baez cover tune on Speak
>>English or Die (Diamonds and Rust). Yuck! Not a metal band.

Ya know, this kinda leads me to believe you've never listened to them. I think
it takes me longer to type out "Diamonds and Rust" than it did for them to 
play it. If you were to look on the cover (back side, bottom right corner if 
you can't find it without some help) it says something to the effect of:
"Diamonds and Rust (:02)". This means that the song is 2 seconds long. They
say (and I quote) "Diamonds and Rust." One guitar note, and one drumroll. That's
it. Helluva cover tune, eh?
As far as the Territorial Pissings, well, if you can't like a band just because
they are top 40, then you need to get a real clue as to what good music is. I
hate to tell you this, but your pretty boy axl's band has been in the top 40.
To top it all off, S.O.D. isn't really a band. They took a weekend vacation to
New York, and decided to get together with Billy and make an album. One weekend.
The went thru the songs once, then put them on tape.


>Okay, let's say New Fags on the Block decided to cover "Jump In The Fire!"
>New Kids on the Block wouldn't be a poser band anymore, because they did a
>non-poser song.  

[Senseless drivel deleted]

>>Any Seattle band
>>	Seattle bands do not continually sing about the dark side of life
>>(which death bands seem to mean chopping up babies) and thus should
>>never under any circumstances be considered metal (well Alice In Chains'
>>songs are pretty dark but they are about drugs which we all no is a
>>non-problem while serial killers and Satan are real problems)

>Excuse me?  Drugs is a non-problem?  Babies born under the influence of
>crack are non-problems?  Death is a non-problem?  You need to get your
>brain cells (both of them) tuned, kid.

>	[ more b.s. ]

Left this in cause it needed to be said again.

>>Slayer
>>	An obvious poseur band. For one thing they do not like death metal
>>since they consider this music to take everything to ridiculous extremes
>>(this was said in an interview with RIP). Also Seasons in the Abyss was
>>an obvious sellout. And they like the rap group the Geto Boys and anyone
>>that likes rap is an obvious poseur, no repreieve.

Were your father and mother first cousins? I'd like to see you hit the high
notes like that all the time, for years on end. Man, it's not that easy. I
have all the respect in the world for Slayer because they have remained 
(relatively) hard. Sure, Seasons was a little lighter than South of Heaven
and the others, but if you like the music, who cares? It's not as drastic as
Metallica's "change in taste" at any rate. Tell me something, if you were in 
a band of talented musicians (not like you would know any), wouldn't you want
to see something for your labors? You spend years making albums, and playing
your heart out for nothing. Then comes this great idea of slowing it down a 
little and maybe taking out a solo or two to put your new album on the charts
and make lots of money. I think you'd take it too.

>SLAYER IS THE HEAVIEST BAND YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If Slayer is not metal, what
>is?  Rap is not sellout music.  And I challenge you (don't worry you don't
>have to if it's too much for your puny mind) to come up with any examples of
>rap influences in *any* of Slayer's music.

>	[ more bullshit ]

>>This list is far from complete and will thus be added to from time to time.

>Gee, what a vivid imagination you have there :)

Please spare us.

>>"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
>>Guns N' Roses

Innocent of having a brain, possibly.

I wish I'd gotten a crack at the original, but I apparently missed it in all
the other day's reading. Sorry to Darren, who I agree with for the most part.

biswick.