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From: sgs@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Subject: Birthdays
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:49:26 GMT

Baseball Birthdays

December 17
Jerry Adair, 1936
Leo Cardenas, 1938
Ray "Jabbo" Jablonski, 1926
Marvell Wynee, 1959
Cy Falkenburg, 1880
Bobby Ojeda, 1957
Ennis "Rebel" Oakes, 1886

December 18
Tyrus Raymond Cobb, 1886 (HOF)
Bill "Moose" Skowron, 1930
Zoilo Versalles, 1939
Roy Howell, 1953
Jim CLancy, 1955
Johnny Barrett, 1915
Lance Richbourg, 1897
Coaker Triplett, 1911
Dick Coffman, 1906
Gino Cimoli, 1929
Scott Bailes, 1961

December 19
Al Kaline, 1934 (HOF)
Tony Taylor, 1935
Geoff Zahn, 1946
Walt "No-Neck" Williams, 1943
Rex Barney, 1924
Bill Wegman, 1962
Tom Lawless, 1956
Clay Parker, 1962

December 20
Charles "Gabby" Hartnett, 1900 (HOF)
Branch "Mahatma" Rickey, 1881 (HOF)
Cecil Celester Cooper, 1949
Oscar Gamble, 1949
Fred Merkle, 1888
Virgil "Spud" Davis, 1904
Bill Laskey, 1957
Jose DeLeon, 1960
Julio Becquer, 1931
George Pipgras, 1899

--Steve
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 sgs@u.washington.edu             * "The tall people want what the 
 Steve Smith                      *  short people got."
 University of Washington HR-20   *    --D. Wiggin-"Philosophy of the World"	 
 Seattle, WA 98195                *
From: genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: My picks, AL/NL East
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:30:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering

Thus spake cej0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES EDWARD JAMES):
>
>OK, Alomar (compared to Nokes) is something special.  There aren't too many
>other catchers in the AL better than Alomar (judgement still out on Jays
>catcher (forget name)).  

Hmm.  

In 1992, the following catchers were better than Matt Nokes with the bat:

	Darren Daulton	Mickey Tettleton	Chris Hoiles
	Don Slaught	Brian Harper		Terry Steinbach
	Joe Oliver	M. Stanley

The following catchers were worse than Sandy Alomar Jr. with that bat:

	Todd Hundley	Brent Mayne	Tony Pena	Mike Scioscia
	Junior Ortiz	Geno Petralli	John Marzano	Hector Villanueva
	Scott Servais

In between, there were 44 different catchers with at least 200 PAs.  Without
park adjustments, the gap between Nokes and Alomar is about 12 runs, which
is about the same as the gap between Albert Belle and Dante Bichette last
year.  It is conceivable that Alomar's defense makes up the gap, but it would
take a lot of showing...



-- 
       David Tate        |"Out of the dugout endlessly swinging,
 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | Out of the manager's throat, the sound fundamentals,
 Prof. of Story Problems | Out of the six-month season..."            
 Member ORSA, TIMS, SABR | 	Walt "Lefty" Whitman
From: ism1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (IAN SETH MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Yanks sign Key
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:41:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

The Yankees signed Jimmy Key reportedly for 17 million for four years.  The
Yankees had to spend there money somewhere.

    Ian
Date: Wednesday, 16 Dec 1992 17:13:11 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: implications of a certain idea.

dave cone became a better pitcher when he joined the blue jays.

1992 was the best that kelly gruber ever played.

rance mulliniks and dave winfield had equal worth to the jays.
furthermore, rance mulliniks was one of the best dh's last year.

dave steib was one of the best pitchers of 1992.  1992 was steib's
best year.

mike maksudian should have got serious consideration for the al
rookie of the year award.

alfredo griffin - comeback player of the year.

three is bigger than six, since three plus eight is bigger than
six plus four.

bob vesterman.

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays-Gillick
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:21:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.164157.16703@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>
>I agree with you that the most important thing a manager does is manage the
>players.  I find it interesting that Leyland gets (deserved) recognition
>for his handling of players, and is generally regarded as a good manager
>for it, despite his in-game strategies and batting orders, while Gaston
>doesn't.
>

LaRussa and Leyland are white...Cito Gaston and Felipe Alou are not...
some sportwriters who write about baseball and vote for manager of the
year have Marge Schott disease.

Gerald
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From: sgs@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Subject: Birthdays
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:56:31 GMT

Baseball Birthdays

December 16
Mike Flanagan, 1951
Adolfo Phillips, 1941
Tony Kaufmann, 1900
Tom Gorman, 1957
Billy Ripken, 1964

To those netsers celebrating a birthday today, I'm sorry about this crop.

--Steve
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 sgs@u.washington.edu             * "The tall people want what the 
 Steve Smith                      *  short people got."
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 Seattle, WA 98195                * 
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From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: F****** Dumb PIRATES management
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:05:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.191548.23993@athena.mit.edu> frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz) writes:
>In article <If9uVoO00Uh7M5cgZV@andrew.cmu.edu>, Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>|> 
>|> [beginning of frustration deleted]
>|> I can't
>|> believe that they didnt offer Bonds arbitration. This is even more
>|> stupid than letting Cole go unprotected. Someone should kick Sauer out
>|> of this town. He is the perfect yes-man to the hypocritical Pirates
>|> management. I am sure that even dopehead Simmons is not that stupid to
>|> decline arbitration to Bonds. Must be pressure from the front office.
>|> 
>|> 
>|> 
>Now wait a minute. They didn't offer arbitration b/c he might have accepted,
>forcing the Pirates to pay a huge salary which they can'r afford.

he is still a "dopehead".
i don't know much about this guy, but presumably he is a businessman.
business is about taking calculated risks, which of course means measuring
potential return or loss against the probability of the return or loss
occuring. in this case, the potential loss (being "stuck" with bonds for
$7M) was not particularly large, and the probability was also very small.

bonds:
- was coming off an MVP year
- new this was the last year of the big TV money
- was (arguably?) not very happy at pittsburgh

there's no way someone that good, with an ego that big, would take 
arbitration over a big, high-profile contract. it just doesn't make sense.
and, as i believe sherri pointed out, he could have *easily* traded him.

so, he gave away a draft choice because he was overly risk-averse.

--
charles
From: hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Choi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: JAYS KICK BRAVES JAYS KICK BRAVES JAYS KICK BRAVES JAYS KICK BRAVES
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:56:28 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <XViHVB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence) writes:
>as being "Canada's Game".  I can only agree and eagerly await a repeat 
>next year.  How about an all Canadian World Series?  That would be nice.

	I can see the headlines now,

	"EXPOS vs JAYS IN ALL CANADIAN SERIES - GAME OF THE CENTURY"

>
>        GO JAYS GO JAYS GO JAYS GO JAYS GO JAYS GO JAYS
>
>s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
>Western Business School  --  London, Ontario


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From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays-Gillick
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:04:46 GMT

In <17DEC199218065293@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch) writes:

>	That's not the point!  If the only "measure" of managerial ability is
>whether or not the team wins, then if the Jays do collapse next year, it MUST
>be Cito's fault.  I'm not saying it is, but that seems to be the converse of
>the logic you've given us in the past.  If the Blue Jays do collapse next year,

Yes you are right it is the converse.  Unfortunately the equivalent argument
is the contra-positive and not the converse.

>it will far more likely be a result of horrible starting pitching than
>the managerial ability of Cito Gaston.  On the other hand, if the Jays lose
>the AL East by, say, 1 game--and Gaston continues to do stuff like bat
>Devon White leadoff, Carter fourth, misuse David Wells, etc. etc, then Gaston
>COULD, and in fact, SHOULD, be blamed for the finish.  The manager is not 

How do you know that with any other manager they would have finished even
as close as one game?  Can you prove it?  Nope.

>	1)  They replaced David Cone, a top-line pitcher, with Dave Stewart,
>an old, overpriced veteran who will move from a great pitchers park to a decent
>hitters park.
>	2)  Molitor replaces Winfield (I think this is a wash, and in fact, 
>could be beneficial--both are injury risks, IMHO)
>	3)  They lost Henke, and while Tom did seem to be in a decline, this
>leaves the closer role to Ward (OK), and the set-up role to ?? (Timlin??).  The
>depth of the bullpen is reduced, and this could hurt the team.
>	4)  Kelly Gruber is gone, and while I personally despise Gruber and am
>glad to see him traded to the worst team in the AL, the Jays will now be forced
>to play an unproven, albeit promising, youngster (Sprague), or another old
>veteran (Coles).  
>	5)  Morris is a year older.  So is Stewart.  Stottlemyre's still in 
>their rotation.  Guzman's great, but will his arm hold out?

You could be right about all of the above.

>and possibly, just possibly...

>	6)  Cito Gaston does not manage the Jays' talent as well as it could
>be managed.  Notice that, if for some reason, the Jays win by 10 or lose by 10-
>it doesn't make a difference.  If it's close, it will.  And if the Jays lose
>by 1-3 games, Cito should shoulder some of the blame.  

>	In other words, I won't blame Gaston if the Jays' starters have an ERA
>of 4.50 next year.  Simply because managerial talent is secondary to player
>talent does not mean that managerial ability can be dismissed as a factor
>in team performance.

Yes you could be right about everything or some things.  Unfortunately we
can never know for sure.

merry Christmas and all that crap,

rm

-- 
roger maynard
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From: marwood@csri.toronto.edu (Simon J. Marwood)
Subject: Re: Rundown of offseason transactions SO FAR
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:41:51 GMT

Before anyone wastes *too* much time trying to compile a list of off-season
transactions, Matt posts a list here every couple of weeks or so, and
has done so for quite some time. It is a very complete listing, including
current free agents, potential '93 free agents, trades, signings, players
released and gone to Japan, etc. etc.

Simon

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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Brave staff greatest in recent history?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:49:03 GMT

In article <1645@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
>
>I hope to god I'm being paranoid here, but each of these guys has
>pitched a lot of innings in the last few years without major
>injury.  Glavine, in particular, has seemed off his game at the end
>of the season each of the last two years.

You are being paranoid.  When people talk about "lots of innings",
they are referring to 250 inning plus totals.  Like Gooden threw in
'85 and '86.  Like Cone threw last year.  Like Clemens throws most
years.  Smoltz is definitely not overworked for his build, and Avery
probably can take it.  (His 233 innings last year was a career high.)
Glavine might be a bit overworked, but I doubt he throws a lot of
pitches per game.  Maddux is really the only pitcher in the rotation
who has been pushed hard.

-Valentine
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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Statheads and park effects
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:54:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.222310.29315@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> akamholz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andrew E Kamholz) writes:
>Good point. 

Which point might that be?

>I am not even bothering to predict what kind of year
>Boggs is going to have because, asside from his injuries, one
>cannot really generalize as to how Yankee Stadium differs from 
>Fenway Park. 

Huh?  Generally, it has a little more foul territory, a much shorter
RF, a comparatively huge LF, and no Monster.  

I don't understand your sentence at all.

Why can't you predict Boggs' year?  Do you think he's likely to 
steal 30 bases?  Hit 30 homers?  Walk only 30 times?  Wind up batting
eighth?  MAke 40 errors at 3B?  

All those things are unreasonable.  All kinds of estimates of things
he's likely to do, based on what he's done and based on his age, his
recent injuries, etc., can be made.

They're not claims that he *will* do just that -- they're estimates.
What's your problem with that?  

>Remember that Boggs is living in a whole different world
>now; it's not just the park that has changes- it's his whole life. There

How?  Can you tell us?  How will he feel?  Better? Worse?  

>are many more factors than just the park change that go into what kind\
>of year he will have.

Of course.  Have you met anyone who claims otherwise?  

His back and his eyesight are two big factors.  Everyone's been saying
that.  If your complaint is that some people have been saying that 
Wade Boggs' 1993 will be just like his 1992 but adjusted for Yankee-
Fenway differences, well, perhaps you could tell us *who* has been
saying that.


Roger
From: cej0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES EDWARD JAMES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:36:08 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec18.132740.1296@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.pu
rdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers) writes:
>I have a question on free agency.  I thought that once a player declared for
>free agency and he hadn't signed with his team by December 7th, he couldn't
>sign with them until some time in May.  I seem to recall something similar
>happening to Tim Raines and the Expos.  The reason I bring this up is that
>Terry Steinbach filed for free agency and then resign with the A's after
>the 7th ( I believe ).  What is the official story on this ?????
>
>Thanks in advance....  you can either post or e-mail directly.
>
>later,
>                       ---Mark
>
I know that if the player is offered arbitration the team can negotiate with
him until sometime after the beginning of the year, if they don't they don't
have a shot at him 'til sometime in March I think.
-- 
Charles James
Lehigh University
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From: camden@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Rany Jazayerli)
Subject: Re: Who are these new Pirates ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.143314.3708@cs.tulane.edu>, eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes...
>In article <BzByJ3.Du4@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v085f2wd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Theodore J Kury) writes...
>> 
>>Since the Pirates seem to be missing a cleanup hitter, these players all
>>hit 4th in this many games for the Bisons:
>> 
>>Brian Dorsett        104
> 
>	What's the deal with Dorsett?  He had a pretty good looking season
>for the Bisons but I've never heard any mention of him as a possible player
>(at catcher or first). If I remember correctly he was a first round pick
>a couple of years ago.  Why is he not being promoted (or am I just missing
>it by living so far south).
> 

	I hate to burst the bubble on Dorsett here, but THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD.
He's been in professional ball since 1983, and has already seen major-league
action with four teams (Indians in '87, Angels in '88, Yanks in '89-'90, and
Padres in '91, hitting .198 in 91 AB total).  Yes, he had a fine season in AAA
this year - .289, 21 Homers, 102 RBI's, .488 SLG, .344 OBP.  But the guy is only
6 months younger than Spanky.  He could probably be a decent backup catcher in
the majors right now, but at his age I doubt he'll ever get the chance, and I'm
not totally sure he deserves one.  His minor league stats really aren't that 
impressive before this year.


>Dave
>__________
>Dave Bonar
>eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
>__________
> 

	Rany Jazayerli			camden@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
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	David Cone: 1993 Cy Runner-Up	Greg Gagne: 1993 Gold Glove

	Proud new owner of the 1993 Expansion Team Red Sea River Bandits
	...Better than the '62 Mets, I hope...
From: rand@muttley.ucsd.edu (Rand Steiger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 1992 Mets
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:42:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: muttley.ucsd.edu

Is there any doubt that management has gone into the Donald-Grant-Joan-
Payson-Let-the-Team-Sink-and-reel-in-the-Bucks-Mode? Look at there
recent moves. SIgning Joe Orsulak, then letting go of the entire
bench, including Sasser, just as he was demonstrating that he might yet
become a real catcher. Also their most glaring need for the past three
years is still unfilled - a left hander in the bullpen behind Franco.

Old Met fans will remember when Mickey Lolich was brought in as the
last piece in the puzzle, followed by ten years of mediocraty. Hellooooo
Frank Tanana!

Actually, with Gooden and HoJo healthy, I think they will do better then
some people on the net think. Just good enough to be their old frustrating
selves.....

Happy New Year!
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays-Gillick
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:57:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.222334.13983@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1992Dec16.214836.4510@u.washington.edu> sgs@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec16.210013.10713@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>>>
>>>Can you prove to me that in '92 the Jays would have won without Griffin?
>>>(or Gaston or any other member of the team).  No you can't and until you can
>>>prove it you cannot tell me that any member of the team was more important
>>>than any other if importance is defined as being necessary to winning the WS. 
>>What I'd like to know, Roger, is do you apply this same "reasoning" to
>>other aspects of your life?  Do you honestly believe that your cigarette
>>lighter was of equal importance to your drive train in getting you to
>
>the functions or purposes of a cigarette lighter and the drive train are
>not the same.  the cigarette lighter makes no claim that it contributes
>to my safe arrival.  

Neither does Alfredo Griffin if he has any sense of modesty.
-- 
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standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays-Gillick
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:41:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.161714.2075@sni.ca> dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till) writes:
>I claim that the hardest part of the manager's job is actually *managing*
>his players:  making sure that no conflicts break out which affect the
>team's performance, and ensuring that everyone is happy with his role
>and giving their best on the field.
>
>Cito Gaston is not particularly good at making out the lineup card or at
>selecting in-game strategies.  (This, presumably, is why Gene Tenace
>is his "bench coach":  Gino can provide input when it's time to make
>decisions of this sort.)  He probably wouldn't be a good manager for an
>expansion team, or a team consisting mostly of young players.  However,
>there is no manager in baseball better at creating a winning atmosphere, and
>Cito's teams have all won or come close to it.

I agree with you that the most important thing a manager does is manage the
players.  I find it interesting that Leyland gets (deserved) recognition
for his handling of players, and is generally regarded as a good manager
for it, despite his in-game strategies and batting orders, while Gaston
doesn't.

As far as the technical aspects of managing go, I'd guess that the two most
important are (1) selecting the players who should get the playing time and
(2) handling a pitching staff.  While Leyland is weak in other technical
aspects of managing, he's reasonably strong in these two, while most of the
complaints I recall here about Gaston have to do with his poor handling of
the pitching staff.  That may help explain the different perceptions of
these two.  

How important is the handling of the pitching staff, in the overall scheme
of things?  I don't know.  Anybody got any ideas on how to bound it?

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com

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From: gotribe@cbnewse.cb.att.com (richard.g.barry)
Subject: Re: chickenman in New York
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:14:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.232652.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>, tyeckley@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
> Wow...Boggs t the Yankees  I'm not sure how i feel about that
> If it really was an off year, than the yanks may have pulled off the coup of
> the winter.

I don't think so.  I don't have Boggs Home/Away stats in front of
me, but I recall that even when Boggs was a good hitter (.340-.350),
he hit MUCH higher in Boston than anywhere else.  In fact, his
road stats were kind of average.  Don't expect Boggs to do much
hitting in NY; of course he still walks a lot so he'll be a decent
leadoff hitter OBA-wise...

Rich
barry@ihlpe.att.com
Organization: Freshman, IM - Graphic Communications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:04:08 -0500 
From: Josh S Linder <jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: yanks/giants rumour, and signings.

It WON'T happen, since the Yankees signed Boggs.

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From: akamholz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andrew E Kamholz)
Subject: Mattingly
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:51:58 GMT

I hereby take back everything I have said about Mattingly. I started off just
trying to say that he was a good defensive player and certain idiots started
going crazy with RISP and power and whatnot. 

All I was trying to do was write something positive, since all most of you
people seem capable of doing is putting down people who, by the way, have a
lot more talent than any of you.

Call me sentimental, but I will always believe that Mattingly is the best
first-baseman. I REFUSE to answer any responses to this on this net. If you
have a problem with what I say, send me mail and I'll tell you what I really
think.
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