HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Re: Costa Rica ???
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:03:02 GMT
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks
In-reply-to: freds@hpcc01.corp.hp.com's message of 7 Apr 92 15:58:47 GMT

>>>>> On 7 Apr 92 15:58:47 GMT, freds@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Fred Saavedra) said:


	Fred> Does anyone know of email addresses  to
	Fred> San Jose, Costa Rica.

Costa Rica does have a connection via Peacenet/Econet/GreenNet

Addressing uses Internet-style domain addresses.  They also use their
own syntax for APC and DASnet hosts.  You can contact support@cdp.uucp
for more information.

Good Luck,
Rod
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From: mlhb@drutx.ATT.COM (54626-BonhamM(DR2020)214)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: E-Mail address for U of NC at Raleigh
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:46:14 GMT
Followup-To: mlhb@drutx.ATT.COM

I need the e-mail addresses of the University of North Carolina 
machines in Raleigh.  In particular, I'm looking for Scott Kajihara's e-mail
address, but I can guess what his logon is if I can get the path.

Thanks
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From: minett@beno.CSS.GOV (Debbie Minett)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Montreal private school for girls
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:54:06 GMT


Hi!
I am trying to locate an old friend of mine by the name of Cathy
Baker who was born and raised in Montreal.  Responses from a 
previous post of mine informed me that her parents no longer
live at their former address so I'm trying a last ditch effort
to locate her -

Namely:

Is there anyone in Montreal (or with knowledge
of Montreal) who knows the name of a private school for girls,
grades 1 through 12 (?) named Miss _____ and Miss _____'s ??
I'm hoping there's only one |-).  Can anyone provide me
with the name and address of the school?  I would like to 
write to them to see if they keep a list of alumni's current
whereabouts or could somehow get word to her that I am trying
to locate her!

Many, many thanks for any help!

Debbie Minett

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minett@seismo.css.gov
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (54626-BonhamM(DR2020)214)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: I KNOW now UNC <> NCSU; please no more replies
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:37:12 GMT

Thank you for the corrections

I was able to get hold of my friend.

Thanks for all info

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From: freds@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Fred Saavedra)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Margot Gohler
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:14:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcc01.61620002
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server


Any one know Margot Gohler (Maiden Name)

thx,

freds@15.3.33.115
From: johng@oce.orst.edu (John Gregor)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Another child looking (Feb 28, 1965. Portland Oregon)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:32:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr13.213222.28206
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography

Might as well join the crowd...

Stats:
  Male born February 28, 1965 in Portland, OR at the old St. Vincent's
  Hospital.  Privately adopted at birth.

-JohnG
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 E-mail: johng@oce.orst.edu			Oregon State University
Voice #: +1 503 737-3022			Oceanography Admin Bldg. #104
  Fax #: +1 503 737-2064			Corvallis, OR  97331-5503
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Looking for Bill Deala, U.S. Navy, fmr. U.C. Berkeley
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:29:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)



This is Jon Rhein, posting from a friend's account.  I am looking for
Bill Deala, last known location the U.S. Navy, former student at U.C.
Berkeley.  I have tried all avenues, such as contacting his family.  
They have all moved.  Any info would be appreciated.


			Jon Rhein
			jon@postgres.berkeley.edu
			(408) 437-0150
From: libove@libove.det.dec.com (Jay Vassos-Libove)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Jeanne Mowles
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:51:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Detroit Ultrix Resource Center

I'm looking for a friend of mine - Jeanne Mowles - who went to Drew
University in New Jersey and then moved (around 1989) to Washington
(state).  She was once reachable through her boyfriend's account
BOONE @ MAX.bitnet (max.u.washington.edu) but I get no response
from that account anymore (but also no bounces).

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Jeanne Mowles?

Thanks!
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Digital Equipment Corporation      decwrl!libove.det.dec.com!libove
Open Systems Resource Center       Opinions? They're mine, mine, all mine!
Farmington Hills, Michigan         and D.E.C. Can't have 'em!
Newsgroups: soc.net-people,soc.college
From: bweaver@quack.sac.ca.us (Brian Weaver)
Subject: U of Northern Colorado computer info wanted
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 15 Apr 1992 23:11:52 UTC

I am planning to transfer to University of Northern Colorado next
fall. I will be a computer sci major and would like to know if
student accounts have access to internet or bitnet and if they
have ftp/telnet/irc access. (Hey, do I have my priorities about
what to look for in a school straight or what?) 

Thanks for your help!

-- 
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bweaver@quack.sac.ca.us
KD6CFA@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Another seeking birthparents (12/15/64, Baltimore) 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:05:37 GMT

I am seeking my birth mother and father to tell them "Hi, I turned out O.K." and to thank them for 
bringing me into this world and for having enough love for me to think that there was a "better chance" 
for me somewhere else.  

Here is the information about my birthparents that I know:

Mother: Age - 21     Height - 5'2"   Wt. - 125   Fair Complexion
             Irish      Roman Catholic
             She graduated from Business College and worked with IBM machines.
             She had musical talent.

Father:  Age - 26      Height - 5"11"   Wt. - 175   Fair Complexion
             Scotch-English        Roman Catholic
             He attended College
             Was a salesman.

I was born on 12/15/64 at 3:20 p.m. at Baltimore County Hospital.
The adoption was through Catholic Social Services.
I spent the first few months of my life at St. Vincents.

If anyone out there knows any more about me....please e-mail me !!!
I am also curious to hear from fellow "searchers" for advice on how to begin.....what registry services
are recommended....etc !  Thanks in advance for all help, encouragement, advice !!!

kathy_buetow@qms1.life.uiuc.edu
  
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: sjbriggs@unity.ncsu.edu (Judd Briggs)
Subject: public health school VMI
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:20:56 GMT

does anyone know the e-mail address for the public health school at
VMI?  i am assuming VMI stands for Virginia Medical Institute.

it is located in Richmond, VA.

all help is appreciated
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: cawright@galaxy.afit.af.mil (Chester A. Wright)
Subject: Re: air force academy email addresses--help!!!
Distribution: usa
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 22:04:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.204034.10065@news.nd.edu> bmurphy5@darwin.helios.nd.edu (brennan murphy) writes:
>Does anyone know the email address at the us air force academy?  Is it possible to correspond with cadets there? please respond email.  Thanks.
>.
>


I was looking for some other addresses when I came across this one
(129.251.0.0).  You might want to try a 'whois 129.251.0.0' to get
additional information.  This should get you started.

Sorry I couldn't reach you by e-mail...

chester 
:-)

Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: ekwalton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric K Walton)
Subject: south Africa e-mail?
Summary: Help getting through
Keywords: e-mail; S. Africa
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:14:19 GMT

I have been able to send mail to associates at the University
of Pretoria and to the Univ. of Cape Town in South Africa in
Dec. 1991 and Jan 1992. Unfortunately, I have been unsuccessful since then.

I am really cut off from perple that I was hoping to collaborate with 
scientifically. (Ohio State to Pretoria./Cape-Town) Scientific research.

Does anyone know the problem?

Does anyone know a solution?

Address example:

mikings@eleceng.uct.ac.za  

or...

wimpie@dennis.ee.up.ac.za

Thanks for your help.

Eric Walton
The Ohio State Univ. 
Columbus, Ohio 43212
614 292 7981
FAX 292 7297

e-mail 

walton@tiger.eng.ohio-state.edu

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Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: u7911013@ccsun11.cc.nctu.edu.tw (Huang Chih-Hsien)
Subject: Re: Costa Rica ???
Keywords: Costa Rica, BITNET 
Organization: National Chiao Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:45:38 GMT

In article <61620001@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> freds@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Fred Saavedra) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of email addresses  to
>San Jose, Costa Rica.
>

I found Universidad de Costa Rica, San Jose, Costa Rica is on BITNET.
Here is the info:

* UCRVM2 is Universidad de Costa Rica - Centro de Informatica
* U de Costa Rica;Escuela De Fisica;San Jose; ;COSTA RICA;
* Running VM/SP Release 6.0 on a IBM 4381.
* UCRVM2 is connected to BITNET
*
* User Information is available from
*      Luis Blanco (BLANCO@UCRVM2) +1 506 248829
* PostMaster is Luis Blanco (BLANCO@UCRVM2) +1 506 248829
* Technical Information is available from
*      Mauricio Alfaro (ALFARO@UCRVM2) +1 506 248829
* Network Operator is Mauricio Alfaro (ALFARO@UCRVM2) +1 506 248829
* Director is Guy DeTeramond (GDETER@UCRVM2) +1 506 24.3674

Hope it helps.  Good Luck!

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Huang, Chih-Hsien, EE Dept., National Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C.
Internet: u7911013@cc.nctu.edu.tw     BITNET: 7911013@TWNCTU02.bitnet
From: schin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Hopefully better luck if not let me know please
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:31:53 GMT
Reply-To: schin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (neil schier)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: schin@dopey.cc.utexas.edu

Hellllo once again, 
I am looking for the whereabouts of Vanessa Southern and Sarah Roff.
Vanessa studied at Stanford and Sarah studied at Yale. In addition,
Vanessa studied for a while at Oxford. Would you kindly respond to me
directly. Thanks once again.
Neil
s
From: robertd@imsl.UUCP (Robert Daugherty)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Lee College (Cleveland TN) Alums
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:13:15 GMT
Organization: IMSL, Inc., Houston

I was just curious - any Lee College alums out there in 
net land?

Robert Daugherty
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: EMAIL address for Sandy Schneider, Vancouver
From: T.D.Sadlier@massey.ac.nz (T.D. Sadlier)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:41:07 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c


Hi - I'm looking for an EMail address for Sandy Schneider who works for
Ernst & Young, Vancouver.  Any help would be appreciated.

Tanya Sadlier
Massey University
Palmerston North
NZ
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: rickc@apache.sps.mot.com (Rick Cramer)
Subject: IRC via Telnet/Internet
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:46:21 GMT

Hello,

I work at Motorola and can not access  internet directly.
I must first telnet to a firewall system. This disables me from
installing IRC on my SUN.  Can anyone please tell me if I can telnet
to a machine on the internet that has IRC? If so what is the IP address?

Any help would be appreciated. THANKS!
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: bweaver@quack.sac.ca.us (Brian Weaver)
Subject: Re: bitnet-internet
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 15 Apr 1992 20:20:40 UTC

zoelen@rulfsw.leidenuniv.nl writes:

>can anyone tell me how to find a bitnet node if you have the
>internet address, or the other way round? there must be a server 
>somewhere... or not?
>ad van zoelen, leiden, holland

  Do the following to look up bitnet nodes..

  Email listserv@templevm.bitnet, and enter the following in
  the body of message. The example given is to search on 
  pomona, so change all pomona to your search key.

  //POMONA JOB ECHO=NO
  DATABASE SEARCH DD=RULES
  //RULES DD *
  SEARCH * IN BITEARN WHERE NODE=POMONA
  PRINT


  The server will email the response to you.. Hope this helps!


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KD6CFA@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gregory Tao )
Subject: an old friend
Summary: looking for an old friend
Keywords: an old friend
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:45:25 GMT

hi all,		

i'm trying to locate an lod friend of mine...his name is maurie baty monroe
(or baty-monroe, batey-monroe...something like that)

anyway, we were friends back about 13 years ago in seaside, oregon	
actually, he might be anywhere now, but i'm sure he's at some college, since 
i'm a junior now, and we're the same age.  could somebody help me?	

thank you,

gregory tao

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From: mroosen@cst.prl.philips.nl (Monique Roosen)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: EMAIL address of Prof. Brian Henderson-Sellers
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:31:14 GMT
Reply-To: roosen@cst.philips.nl
Organization: Centre for Software Technology, Philips Eindhoven

Hello,

I'm looking for the e-mail address of Professor Brian Henderson-Sellers
of the School of Information Systems in Australia. As far as I know he
is working in the OO-metrics area and wrote a report (or one of his students
did) about the results of complexity (reuse) metrics in a project.

Thanks in advance for any help !!

Monique Roosen
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From: harris@mathcs.emory.edu (John Harris (math grad stu))
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: looking for address of Cumberland College, KY
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:34:58 GMT
Reply-To: harris@mathcs.emory.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

I don't know if they even have an address there, but if someone knows it, I would 
appreciate the info.  Thanks.

---
John Harris (math grad stu)
Emory University, Atlanta, GA 
Internet:  harris@mathcs.emory.edu		BITNET: harris@emory.bitnet
UUCP: {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!harris	

From: freds@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Fred Saavedra)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:58:47 GMT
Subject: Costa Rica ???
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.net-people


Does anyone know of email addresses  to
San Jose, Costa Rica.

Thanks,

Fred 
 ------------------------------------------------------------
| Fred Saavedra                   Hewlett-Packard Company    | 
| R&D Software Engineer           World Wide Customer Support|
| Instrument Support Tools Lab    Systems Support Division   |
| freds@hpprsd1.mayfield.hp.com   100 Mayfield Ave           |
| or freds@15.3.33.115                                       |
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From: schin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: if this doesn't go through please reply trouble
Keywords: Vanessa Southern and Sarah Roff
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: schin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (neil schier)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: schin@dopey.cc.utexas.edu


			Thanks in advance
			Neil
From: downey@sei.cmu.edu (Grace Downey)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: NSF Summer Progam attendees
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:55:20 GMT
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute



In 1977 I attended a National Science Foundation sponsored Math
and Computer Science program for high school students at Hiram
College, Hiram Ohio.

I am looking for other people who attended the particular program
that taught us FORTRAN IV programming and an Intro. to Graph Theory.
The professors involved were Dr. Grajak and Dr. Smerek.  (I may have
messed up on the spelling, and I'd like to hear from them too if
they are on the net anywhere!)

Some other names, as I can recall them: Lael Wall, Pete (Yung Pyo) Lee,
Ying Woo, Mark Bruggar, Tom Reed, Mark Smith (of Bowling Green Ohio).
Last I heard, Ying & Mark attended Case Western Reserve University,
and Mark graduated and went to work for IBM in Oswego, NY.

I've heard that it only takes 7 hops to locate anyone anywhere in
the United States--given only a name and vague location/occupation.
Can the Internet speed this up?

e-mail (only) to:

Grace Downey
downey@sei.cmu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: bicrawfo@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Ghost Of A Texas Ladies Man)
Subject: IRC role playing (any going on?)
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:14:06 GMT

I was wondering if anyone knows....do ppl role play on IRC and if so are there any games going on?....I have talked to some ppl who mentioned wanting to get a game started but noone seems to want to put forth the effort to run one..(not that I blame them I had to stop running a real game because of time restraints..)...just curious...
From: zoelen@rulfsw.leidenuniv.nl
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: bitnet-internet
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:49:20 GMT
Organization: Leiden University Faculty of Social Sciences

can anyone tell me how to find a bitnet node if you have the
internet address, or the other way round? there must be a server 
somewhere... or not?
ad van zoelen, leiden, holland
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: weka@polari.com
Subject: Child looking for birth mother (born  9/6/56, L.A., CAL.)
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:38:25 GMT

8:00am at St. Annes in Los Angeles, birth name Patricia Anne 
Stevens.  Born Sept. 6, 1956.  Adopted through Holy Family.
Birth mother is a nurse and father in electrical engieering?
Just noticed all these birth mothers watching the net...
From: dvk@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Klein)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Birth mother looking for child
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:26:09 GMT
Organization: CMU Software Engineering Institute


Here are the details from a friend seeking her birth-child.

Date of Birth: September 11, 1959
Place: Buffalo, NY (Inglewood Home for Girls)
Sex: Female
Original Name: Faith Elaine Boag (or Tobey)
Additional Info:  Lutheran Services, Pastor (Dr.,Rev.) Raymond Wise was
	the person in charge of the Lutherin Adoption Agency.

Health (heretedary) information needs to be passed on to child, although
mother wouldn't mind hearing how, where, who she is :-)

Contact Sharon Boag, 412/521-8071
Or write 4016 Haldane St., Pittsburgh PA 15207


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"The only thing that separates us from the animals is superstition and
mindless rituals" (Latke)      Daniel Klein	CMU-SEI   +1 412/268-7791
						dvk@sei.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik)
Subject: Nancy Bloomer Deussen in San Francisco?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:32:48 GMT


Hi folks!

Frankly, I do not know this woman, but I wish to contact her regarding an
incredibly awesome letter to the editor she wrote in a music composers
newsletter... If you know her, kindly give me her address or phone number...
Of course, if for (understandable) privacy reasons you'd prefer not to do
this, please give my phone number and address to her and mention to her that
I'd like to discuss (and support!) her views about the enroachment of
electronic/atonal music in academia.

Thanks so much for your assistance.

--ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK
  Junior at Northwestern University
  1865 Sherman Ave. #241
  Evanston, IL  60201

  (708) 492-0874
From: pattiw@equinox.unr.edu (Patti Walsh)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Heidi Bastable in Maryland U.S. !
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:48:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

Hello,
	I am looking for an email address for Dr. Heidi Bastable.  She is
currently working in Maryland (U of Maryland or some other 'state'
university) on climatological modeling.  She is from Oxford (or near there)
in the U.K.  
	I'm an old friend of hers from her foreign student stint in Nevada.
Please help me find her.

Patti Walsh
pattiw@escalante.unr.edu
Newsgroups: soc.women
From: shortell@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Laurel L Shortell)
Subject: Re: A guy wants your advice
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:22:03 GMT

In article <MAILQUEUE-99.920406213442.256@caedm.byu.edu> MURILLOM@CAEDM.BYU.EDU ("Martin Murillo") writes:
>
>I'd like to have your opinion....heeeeeeelp!
>please send me e-mail to
>
You should talk to her in person and ask to do something small,
like have coffee somewhere. If you don't DO anything, how will
you ever know what might have happened? I had a similar situation
recently. I've had a crush on a woman at a restaurant, and it got to
the point where we'd have friendly, brief conversations whenever I'd
buy my burrito. Eventually, I brought her homemade lollipops, which
she really liked, but still, that was it. Finally I asked her out for
cider or cocoa, and she said she wasn't free, so I just left my phone 
number. I haven't heard back from her, but at least I know I did
what I could and now I can move on and not waste any more frustrating
time wondering if she is interested. It didn't work out the way I'd
hoped, but I did my best, and I feel good about that. These things
are a lot scarier than they should be, but taking risks is sometimes
the only way to get what you want.

Just my two cents,

Laurel