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From: rn11195@medtronic.COM (Robert Nehls)
Subject: Problem with ST6
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:06:04 GMT

This may have already been discussed.  If so please excuse the waste of
bandwidth.  In ST6, the Klingons are only given 50 years before Kronos
(their home world) dies.  However, in TNG, Kronos is alive and well 75 to 80
years in the future from ST6.  Has this ever been explained?  If so could
someone please post the answer or EMAIL it to me.  This has really been
bothering me.  Thanks in advance.

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From: db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (David M. Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.sf.marketplace
Subject: Message for Stephen Laroque
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:36:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Repair, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I apologize for posting a personal message to the bboards, but my
attempts to reach the person in the subject heading have failed over the
last couple of days: the mailer.daemon keeps bouncing me.

Stephen,

I'm writting to let you know I haven't got the check yet for the 4
records you wanted to buy from me:  the message I got back on 12/26 said
it was "in the mail", and even with the holidays and the sloth of the US
Snail 12 days is a bit long.  Whether "in the mail" was metaphoric or
not, please try to reach me so that I know whether I should be worried.

Thanks in advance (and apologies to all for having to take this route).

Dave Bartlett
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: SNAFU in "Data's Day"
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:41:17 GMT
Organization: McGill University

You know, I look at the net and see two years work posted on the
net and I wonder if it's really for the best.  (Def. Parody plug.)

>sigh<

I just saw "Data's Day".  Data states that "today is the 1550th day
since the enterprise was commissioned".  1550 days = 4.24 years.
Unfortuately, the Enterprise was commisioned on stardate 41153.7 and
the stardate for this episode is 44390.1 days.  3.24 years?  Hmm...
interesting SNAFU.

Someone tell me what they think of _The Definitive STAR TREK Parody_
so far.  I'm starting to feel really depressed.

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Subject: DS9 review (spoilers)...  Really ,just random meanderings.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 10:49:54 -0700

Quoted From: Jaye Mathisen 
         To: All 
       Date: 03 Jan 93  04:38:36 

 JM> All in all, it was OK.  I hate shows that try and get too
 JM> metaphysical, and this was definitely one of those.  Sisko's problem
 JM> with his wife's death didn't qualify as real story material in my book.

I know what you mean, but in this case I think they handled it very well.

 JM> On the other hand, the lady that plays the Bajorran Major (1st officer
 JM> to Sisko), her, I like.  It was good to see a woman in command,  and
 JM> not be a putz like Troi or Crusher were.

Yeah, she was great.  She kind of reminds me of Melanie Chartoff (of 
"Parker Lewis").

 JM> Characterizations were OK.  Odo is cool, lots of funky stuff with him,

Agreed, he should be one of the most interesting and amusing.

 JM> they're portrayed as on TNG.   O'Brien... Good as always.  Sisko -- 
 JM> Cool.  That deep voice just seems to ooze authority and control.  The

Agree on those also.  I LOVED O'Brien's exchange with the computer ("I didn't
ask for an OPINION!").

 JM> kid -- Thank-the-deity-of-your- choice, not another Wesley Crusher, at

"The Kid" is named Jake.  And no, not like Wes at all.

 JM> least so far.  Dax, Drax, whatever  her name is... What a nincompoop.
 JM> "Making the station lighter..." ????????? I would love to see that. 

Hmmm... I must have missed that.

 JM> good.  Rather than that me-too Riker putz.  Dr. I-wanna-be-a-hero, gak,
 JM> choke, wheeze, what a lightweight.  Sisko and the producers better put
 JM> in for a transfer for that weenie.

Big disagreement here.  I thought it was refreshing to have a character
that was there for the sole purpose of seeking adventure.  I'm sure it
won't be long before he learns some big lessons about exactly what
makes a hero.  And I doubt they'll be in a hurry to transfer a Dr. that
could have chosen any assignment he wanted.  He's obviously supposed
to be the absolute best, if a bit naive.

 JM> One big disappointment...  The music is booooooooring.  It's
 JM> quiet, no fanfar, nothing catchy.  Sounds kind of like Nissan car ad
 JM> music. Bleah.

Again, I disagree.  No fanfare, because they want a darker feel for this
series.  I think Jerry Goldsmith did a good job in coming up with something
new, but still with hints of the familiar sounds.

 JM> It's too bad that Ensign Ro isn't assigned to DS9, she would really 
 JM> spice things up.

Michelle Forbes was offered the role of first officer on DSN, but turned
it down.  I suppose in a couple of years when she can't find work she'll
be crawling back and wanting a part, a la Denise Crosby.

... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long
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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Colm Meaney on Dr. Quinn
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:35:21 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences

In article <1993Jan6.120305.9670@iscsvax.uni.edu> morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Colm Meaney was in the two hour premier of Dr Quinn Medicine Woman, the new 
>Jane Seymour series on CBS.  He was the Barbar/Dentist/Surgeon.  Since the 
>show really sucked, I don't know if he is still on it, or whether they 


lighten up...

>killed him off or what.
>
>Later
>
>Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan

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From: cmackin@bu.edu (Carl Mackin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Guinan and Picard
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:54:37 GMT
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Andrea Aldridge (n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:
: In article <106512@bu.edu> cmackin@bu.edu (Carl Mackin) writes:
: >Does anyone, know if they will ever develop the story of
: >the relationship that Picard and Guinan share?
: 
: They did, in the two-parter (I forget the title) that had the crew going
: back to Mark Twain's time to find out what happened to Data's head in 
: San Francisco.  That was the sum of the relationship - that Picard met
: and saved Guinan at that time.
: 
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Yes, but there is more to it than that.  Picard did not even know 
that he met her 500 years prior.  She even states that she could
not tell him because of the off-chance that it might change future
events.  
Neither has told any of the crew about their long standing relationship.
It supposedly occurred while Picard was in the Academy.  That 
episode - "Times Arrow" - explained the deepness of their ties, but
did not explain the meeting of the two while he was in Starfleet Academy.

Lt. Cmdr. Mackin
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From: jeroen@sci.kun.nl (Jeroen van Hoof)
Subject: Re: Problem with ST6
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:08:20 GMT

In <1993Jan8.201800.3070@scorch.apana.org.au> grabat@scorch.apana.org.au (Grant Bates) writes:

>Actually, the problem that has been irking me is the explosion of the
>Klingon moon and the energy wave that battered the Excelsior.

>Assuming that the energy wave didn't move faster than the speed of
>light (probably not even close !), and noting that when Sulu contacted
>the moon (Praxis ?) to offer assistance, the disaster was still in
>full swing, can we assume that the Excelsior was only a few light
>hours from the moon (I am assuming it was a moon of their homeworld),
>right in their backyard ?

Your assumption about the energy wave is wrong. After the wave has
passed, Sulu askes what it was and one of his crew replies :

  Sub-space shock-wave originating from bearing ... It's Praxis, Sir.
  ---------

So it is a sub-space shock-wave, therefore it will travel faster than light.

Jeroen 

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From: cpaulse@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chris D Paulse)
Subject: "The Children Shall Lead" tombstone question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:39:31 GMT

I'm not sure which newsgroup I should be posting this question to, but anyhow,
here goes: In the "The Children Shall Rule" episode, towards the end of the
show the children are shown tricorder recordings of themselves playing with 
their parents, followed by shots of each of their parent's gravestones.  My
question is: What did the oriental child's parent's tombstone read?
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From: harlock@rahul.net (Mike Harlock)
Subject: Ships in DS9: Computer Animated or modeled?
Keywords: deep space 9 ds9 DS9 ships animated
Organization: a2i network
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:35:08 GMT

Hello.  A friend of mine commented to me that he thought all the ship movementts
in DS9 were very jittery, and the images were very jagged with aliasing.
I did not notice myself, I wasn't looking for that kind of thing when watching
it for the first time, and haven't had a chance to go back and look at it.

   What I would like to know is weather the ships are computer animated or not.
Last I heard, *ALL* of the ships in the TNG series and DS9 are all modeled
and blue-screened.   Can someone with a reliable source tell me?
I haven't had a chance to go back and watch it again.

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From: farmer@cs.utk.edu (SUSAN FARMER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Trek novel questions
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:34:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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Is there a list of the Bantam novels and authors?  Can anyone e-mail
me one (or tell me where to ftp it)?

Who wrote the TOS novels: Timetrap
                          The Final Nexus
                          Shell Game

          the TNG novel: (I havent had a chance to print the compendium yet)
                         Fortune's Light

Just trying to compile a list *with* authors.

Susan

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: Info needed on STTNG models
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:04:53 EST

 -=> Tarun Kripalani babbled to All and look what he/she said! <=-

 TK> How many different types of ships, stations etc
 TK> are available as models from STTNG? I have only
 TK> encountered the Enterprise 1701-D and the
 TK> Klingon Battle Cruiser.

Yes, there are only two.


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From: zoetrope@netcom.com (Devan DzM MacFarlane)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine Preview (UK) *Minor Spoiler*
Organization: Hell's Ditch
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:10:58 GMT

The world paused when dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) said:
>The characters?!?  The actors have weird enough names..... Despite 
>appearances all the characters are supposed to be non-Terran except for
>Sisko & Son, and the Doc.  Nana Visitor will be spending the next year at 
>least wearing a Nose Augmentation Device on screen, though it doesn't show
>in the cast photo.  She's supposed to be Bajoran, which is where Ensign Ro
>on TNG was supposed to hail from.  You remember what she looked like.

Err ... What about the O'Brian family? (True, Keiko (sp?) and child did
not appear in the premier, but none-the-less, they are supposed to be
part of the cast)

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From: jlr1801@eagle.tamu.edu (Jeff Rife)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Kobyashi Maru
Date: 10 Jan 1993 01:27:05 GMT
Organization: Energy Systems Lab, Texas A&M University
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OK, I know that even the spelling may be wrong, and this is probably a FAQ,
but what, exactly, does the name of that ship from TWOK mean?

Thanks.

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From: medwards@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Matt Edwards)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers <SPOILERS>
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:23:41 GMT


Dunno if this belongs here but....

GAAAAAAAG  please, save yourself the trouble of watching this.
5 seconds into the premier I thought to myself 'god, this is cheezy'...

Let it die!  It belongs with 'Cop Rock'...

Headin' off to the toilet to be sick,

Ribbit
From: jcastle@missing.kludge.com (Jeff Castle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Space Rangers <SPOILERS>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 21:26:37 PST
Organization: The Missing Link BBS, Santa Maria, CA  805-925-1129

wc9583@writer.yorku.ca (J.Marc Chabot) writes:
> 
> I must agree.  I thought that with the talk of this series being
> strong competition for TNG and DS9 it would at least be worth a look.
> I though it was very possibly the worst science-fiction series I have
> ever seen!  It ranked right up there with Buck Rogers and the like.
> 
> 	If this is supposed to be competition for anything, they
> should at least pit it against an equally pathetic show...I mean just
> because they hide behind lots of techno-speak doesn't make it a good
> universe...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> J.Marc Chabot

I dont see how anyone could consider this show as competition for 
ANYTHING, I was rolling on the ground laughing (during the 25 minutes or 
so that I could stand watching it) =)

I think the only competition DS9 & ST:TNG are going to get is possibly 
from Babylon 5.  And considering that Paramount is spending like 2/3 more 
per episode of ST:TNG/DS9, Babylon 5 will have to do very well to 
compete.  Personally I'd like to see them all survive.  I enjoyed DS9, 
but it wasnt quite as 'dark' as I waswishing for.  It seemed to sort of 
follow the same pattern as most of the other ST:TNGs (i.e., god-type 
being deciding wether or not humans are worth keeping alive or not)
But all in all, I really enjoyed it..


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From: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: RE: GOLD PLAQUE
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 

-> It's the commissioning placque.  I haven't looked at it lately, but
-> it's something like "U.S.S. Enterprise, San Francisco Yards" and a
-> stardate.  There is also a commissioning placque in the bridge of the
-> NCC-1701D that includes "Gene Roddenberry, Grand Admiral".
-> .

   I was at a talk that Mike Okuda (I forget what his official screen
credit is, but he's the guy who's in charge of props, graphics, etc, on
TNG) gave and he mentioned that the plaques on some of the vessels had
some rather funny mottos.  One I remember was "No Matter Where You
Go, There You Are."  He thought it was hysterical when they used it, but
one of the directors or whomever had never seen Buckaroo Banzai, so
didn't get it.

   Another motto used was "A Three Hour Tour.  A Three Hour Tour."  He
mentioned some other ones, but I can't remember what they were.  Anyway,
keep a lookout for plaque on other ships!  They will more than likely
have something quite funny on them!

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From: mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ferengi/h ross
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:44:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1i93f6INNold@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> middendorf@tsd.itg.ti.com writes:
>
>Has anybody, besides me, noticed how much H. Ross Perot looks like
>a ferengi? (sp?) (or ferengi looks like H.Ross?)
>

Has anybody, besides me, noticed how much the guy who played Elijah Muhammed
in Spike's "Malcolm X" looks like a ferengi?  A dead ringer if you ask me.

taffe
From: wc9583@writer.yorku.ca (J.Marc Chabot)
Subject: Re: Ethics and Holodeck
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:27:45 GMT


	You know, I just thought of something to add to the
thread...What if someone was engaged in a little fantasy such as the
one we've been discussing and then the *real* person enters the
Holodeck.  Bothe occupants wander around and run into one another.
The person who programmed the Holodeck would think that the real
person was only a simulacrum.  What would be the result of such an
encounter??  I would call it rape.

Regards,

J.Marc Chabot
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: Odo & Morphing
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:09:40 GMT

furiop@jec314.its.rpi.edu (Paul Joseph Furio) writes:

|> Yes, chances are it is an Amiga.  There are currently four (count 'em, 4!)
|> morphing packages available for the Amiga and all of them support
|> resolutions sufficient for television (and even film) use.  It will not,
|> however, come out that the Amiga is being used mostly because 1) no one
|> would believe that a home computer would be used for something that
|> complicated (well, no one who doesn't know better), and 2) the companies
|> that do the morphing can often make lots more money if they claim they
|> are using some super dooper high end graphics machine. 

at the risk of arousing the amiga-fringe, i'll quit lurking for just a
brief moment.  the morph effects were done at Pacific Data Images (the
same guys who did T2).  according to the sys-admin ... there are no
amigas at PDI ... mostly SGI unix boxes.

of course, like any good grassy knoll conspiracy theory, the facts exist
only to obfuscate the "truth." :+)

james

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Desperately seeking DS9 Press Releases!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:04:40 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1irm91INNr9l@unidui.uni-duisburg.de> hz225wu@unidui.UUCP (Micaela Pantke) writes:
<Hey Folks!
<
<I'm a startrek fan sitting in Germany and am interested in anything
<concerning TNG and DS9. Because of christmas I missed some of the DS9
<Press Releases (or to be precise the first three of them). Could some
<kind soul be so nice to mail them to me.

You couldn't have missed them, since I just recently posted them.
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