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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Alarming News
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:20:23 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

muhamo@nuge106.its.rpi.edu (Omari Wakweli Muhammad) writes:

>I was notified today, November 10, 1992, by the President of the BSA at UNION 
>after the Naim Akbar lecture at West Hall that  during the weekend of
>11/6-11/9 an African Male was hung in Albany.  
>
>When I say hung, I mean lynched. This act of racism was commited within our 
>outside,near community, and I'm outraged by this behavior. We must react 
>appropiately, and I have been made aware that a call out is in progress for
>all people against that racist activity to be at the SUNY-Alany Assembly Room. 
>
>The parents of this youth were threatened that if they persisted in any further
>investigation, that there would definitely be more lynching in this area. The 
>police called their investigation of the matter closed after 4 hrs the 
>incident was discovered.
>
>It is up to us to find justice for the boy and his family who needs our 
>support. We have to look out for each other, that is the morale and conscious 
>brothers and sisters of our society.  This event is also a threat to our 
>survival, and it serves as a reminder that although our Humanities try to make
>us think America is getting better, its not. It`s just learning to hide its 
>feelings so that our economic exploitation can serve better.
>
>I hope to see you there supporting our unity. It's ashamed that we wait until 
>these type of sparks in society to feel an urgent need to unify. Lets not let 
>this end up being an event of motivation meaning that we will sit on our butts
>once the system acknowleges our anger. We must get inspired to organize, an
> plan our actions for the next event and so on.
>
>More accurate information about the call out will be broadcasted tomorrow. 
>This is indeed an
>
>				EMERGENCY !!
>

More information would be nice.  I haven't heard about this at all.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: President Bill Clinton
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:55:16 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

This is in reply to galan@netlink.cts.com (Greg Gross), who wrote:
:
:Smooth sailing with Congress? Not necessarily:
:In my lifetime, the only President who had that was Lyndon Johnson. Every 
:other one, without exception, found himself locking horns with Congress, 
:even when it was dominated by his own party.

And you know who was the most veto-happy president of modern times?
FDR.  Who had the most vetos overriden?  FDR, by his own party.  But
of course, Roosevelt and his Brainers kept parrying with Congress,
didn't give up, sent bills to the legislative branch like they were
franked or somethin.  Roosevelt, as we know, prevailed.

Aaron

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american,talk.politics.misc,triangle.politics
From: meyers@leonardo.rtp.dg.com (Bill Meyers)
Subject: Re: Release from the Clinton Camp
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:12:18 GMT
Organization: N/I

In article <1992Nov5.235237.22175@rock.concert.net> barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber) writes:
[ ... ]
>My understanding is that the overwhelming majority of Americans
>favor gun control.  Additionally, the NRA is one of the most 
>powerful special interest lobbies in existence.  I believe this is 
>the group being referred to by Sarah Brady, not the American people 
>as a whole, as you suggest below.

The overwhelming majority of Americans think there isn't any "gun
control" because the paid media generally over reports gun crime,
and continually advocates "gun control" laws as a solution.  When
people begin to learn just how much gun law is already in place --
and how effective it obviously isn't -- their support for more of
the same tends to diminish.  When they begin to think about how
more gun laws reduce _their_ options, while so obviously failing
to reduce crime, their support vanishes or turns into opposition.

The NRA has roughly 3 million members, about the same as the AAA.
If Mothers Against Drunk Driving had chosen to advocate banning of
cheap, unsafe cars ("Saturday Night Specials"), automobile brokerage
services ("Mail Order Murder"), radar-absorbing auto body materials
("Undetectable Plastic Cars"), heavy duty truck bumpers ("Cop-Killer
Pickups"), and sporty-looking ("Assault") cars with tailfins and
semi-automatic transmissions, the _members_ of the AAA would have
opposed some of that nonsense and the AAA would no doubt have had
to organize a lobbying division, as the NRA did about 1976.

If MADD and the airhead media had then decided to continue with the
resulting culture war, you would even now be hearing about the "evil
empire" AAA, a "powerful special-interest group" opposed to reasonable
car control.  And, of course, about the lone heroine Sarah Hazy, who's
bravely standing up to these curs on behalf of the "American people".

Hey, it could still happen -- if, for example, VP-elect AlGore follows
through on his idea of banning all cars more than 10 years old ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Malik Shabazz, Islam and Anti-Semitism (Re: Cultural leaders, cu
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:36:31 GMT

lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney) writes:
#
#All the quotes you cited are disgusting enough, but what it
#particularly Islamic about them.  They don't sound so much worse than
#anti-Japanese rhetoric in the US during WWII.

#All of these states were at war with Israel, which defined itself as
#the homeland of the Jews.  Thus, Jews were the enemy (as Syrians were
#the enemy of Israel), and the military propoganda was aimed at Jews.
#This had nothing to do with Islam, and everything to do with jingoism
#of a more universal type.

I never said that these quotes reflect the attitude of Islam. The
question was whether such opinions existed in the Muslim world. I 
have also emphasized that most of the quotes were made just before
the '67 war, and probably do not reflect the "average attitude"
toward Jews.

-Danny Keren.
From: walid@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Islam & African_Americans
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:43:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: dhvx20.1992Nov9.104323.1
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

Salam,
A Muslim sister is doing research on Islam in N.American and needs info.
on articles, books, papers etc concerning specific components on this
topic. The areas which are needed the most are Conversion to Islam and
the experience of African-Americans who were part of the Nation of Islam
and who now follow traditional Islam. Since she does not have access to
nnews, please forward any assitance to her at the following address:
		KEBARKER@CC.OWU.EDU

Salam
From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Public School System Mess ( was: LA Teacher Strike
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:56:10 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville

In article <30141@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> michal@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Michal A. Lord) writes:

# As to the issue of keeping the money in the  'hood.   Well, one
# reason that more Koreans have stores is because more Koreans gte
# loans.

Several newspaper articles I've read recently have disputed this
assumption.  The technique they seem to use most often is to get an
entire family unit together to start a single business.  This family
might consist of several employed adults who will keep their jobs, and
thus not be a burden on the new business, plus scads of women and
children who can work in the store for free (and without worrying
about child labor laws) because they're family.

# As I understand it, the better your references, i.e. people who
# have paid back loans, the better your chances of receiving a loan.
# More Koreans got loans which leads to more Koreans getting loans.
# Someof whom are just of the boat, so to speak and barely speak
# English.

I'm sure this is true of individuals -- that is, if you've paid back a
loan before, your status is higher for a subsequent loan.  Also, in
the case I outlined above, being able to get the signatures of several
working adults will make the loan more likely.

But I doubt that banks will grant loans to Koreans *in general*
because other Koreans have proven to be good risks.  It seems that
discrimination is much more likely to work against than for.

David


Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: stovall@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Stovall)
Subject: NOI and Immunex
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:40:57 GMT

The Prime Time Live segment on Dr Abdul Alim Muhammad of the NOI and his
Abundant Life Clinic was (surprise!) heavily weighted against the NOI, but
still troubling. The low-dose alpha-interferon treatment Dr Muhammad promotes,
which is marketed under the name Immunex (this formulation is closely related
to the Kenyan drug Kemron) was presented as the worst kind of profiteering
vehicle. Not only is the drug not effective (according to two AIDS patients
who appeared on camera, one of whom initially reported "miraculous" results
only to return to his former state), but the NOI charges 5 X more than local
AIDS buyers clubs for a differently packaged, but identical, pharmaceutical.
When confronted with this charge (that the cheaper drug was in fact identical
to Immunex) Dr Muhammad offered up a lame "But, but that...doesnt make sense."
An NIH official had to defend against a charge that NIH is placating black
politicians by re-testing a drug it believes to be worthless. No convincing
testimony for the effectiveness of Immunex was presented, however, nor was
it made clear how there could be such a discrepancy between the opinions
of the Kenyan Medical Research Institute (who developed the treatment)
and the US AIDS establishment (other than veiled "Those jungle bunnies
aint got no science" remarks).
_______________________________________________________________________________

steven stovall
stovall@exeter.cs.ucla.edu
(310) 825-7307
From: lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Poll Tax
Keywords: History
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:08:14 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Nov3.230726.19699@nosc.mil> scallon@nosc.mil (Matthew C. Scallon) writes:

>I was wondering if someone could tell me the Supreme Court overturned the
>use of poll taxes by states.

>Thanks for your help.

The 24th Amendment to the Constitution, passed in 1964, prohibited poll
taxes in all elections for federal office.

The Supreme Court declared all poll taxes unconstitutional in *Harper
v. Virginia State Board of Elections*, 383 U.S. 663 (1966).  It was a
6-3 decision.  Douglas wrote for the majority, holding poll-taxes a
violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.
Black, Stewart and Harland dissented.
-- 
larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com) 
_(*#&)#*&%)@(*^%_!*&%^!)*&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&
The past is not dead, it's not even past.   - Wm. Faulkner
From: peewee@infoserv.com (Philip Stromer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Spike Lee
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 09:47:18 PST
Distribution: world

	>Pointing out spelling mistakes is the first refuge of someone who
	>doesn't have anything substantive to say.

Spoken like a true defender of DAN QUAYLE.  :)

	>What did happen is that a Federal Appeals Court invalidated the
	>discharge of a gay soldier because he hadn't actually done any 
	>overt act.  Hardly what you claim though.

If "being homosexual" is a violation, making a public statement of such
would be an overt act.  If you don't believe me, make a joke about a
bomb at an airport.

	>the segregation was not mandated, it was private, customary racism 
	>enforced by peer pressure, habit and prejudice.

Sister Souljah (leading spokesman of this group's thought process), is no
advocate of integration.  Don't blame ME for the lack of desire for inte-
gration today.  I'm all in favor of it, I'm no White Nationalist.  I
publicly condemn White Separatists, along with Black Separatists, the
first chance I get.
								  
	>in the absence of legislation, gays are just as vulnerable as 
	>were blacks in the old South.

Maybe homosexuality should be declared to be a religion, then it would fall 
under First Amendment protection...The fact that homosexuality is aberrant 
behavior doesn't make it morally wrong, just like taking drugs.  People have 
the right to be aberrant if they so choose, in my book, whether it's being  
homosexual, taking heroin, gambling, visiting a hooker, or whatever.  

As long as consenting adults use neither force nor fraud to do something, 
it should be legal.              ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ 

This all goes back to what I've been griping about all along.  If we allow
the government to control individual liberties, we'll have to deal with
these kinds of laws.  Very few readers of this newsgroup have advocated
the RIGHT of an individual to take drugs inside his OWN BEDROOM, which I 
feel is a basic right, just as consenting adults in the bedroom should be
able to do whatever the hell they wat to.

--Philip Stromer (peewee@infoserv.com)
From: sterrett@nosc.mil (Anthony E. Sterrett)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Need Evident for two well known comments
Keywords: income,Napoleon,sphrinx
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:50:30 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA

I need some support evidents for the comment that during the 
Reagan Admin the upper 2% household had 50%+ of the wealth.
Any support.

Second, The Napoleon blew the nose off the sphrinx.


Thanks in Advance
------------------------------------------------------------------
Tony"The Tiger" Sterrett NOSC	This is my opinion and only mine
Reply to:sterrett@nosc.mil
		Nkosi sikelel'iAfrika
--Red Wings,Pistons Rule, Tigers Rule, Lions Rule!-----------------
From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Clinton's In, Bushie's OUT!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 08:43:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov9.042827.29736@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu writes:
>Actually Powell has never let his party affiliation become known.  Since
>his Chairman position is supposed to be free of party politics.  But, he's
>widely believed to be a democrat.  I expect Clinton to either keep him
>at the chairman position, or ask him to become Sec. of Defense. 

Choices I heard talked about for Sec. of Defense were Sam Nun, Senate Armed
Services Committee Chairman, and Les Aspin, House Armed Services Committee
Chairman.  If Aspin gets chosen, that would put Berkeley's own Ron Dellums
in line to be the next Chairman.  He would be the first black man ever to
chair this very important and highly public (lots of MacNeil/Lehrer and
Nightline) position.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: bhat@cs.columbia.edu (Dinkar Bhat)
Subject: Re: Carol Moseley Braun WINS in Illinois!!!
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:11:45 GMT

Just for information:

the NYT reported that Carol Moseley Braun won 93% of the black vote whereas 
she won only 49% of the white vote in Illinois.


Dinkar.

Disclaimer: My own opinions and not of my employer.
From: michal@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Michal A. Lord)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Public School System Mess ( was: LA Teacher Strike
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:55:23 GMT
Organization: TEACH For AMERICA, Los Angeles, CA.

I taught for two years in Compton High School in Compton CA.  What
I saw there was very distressing, adminstrators who didn't care,
teachers who didn't care, students who didn't care and parents who 
had given up.  As a public school
                                  teacher I really do believe that
the public schools are still where the hope for the future lies.  I
also believe that for this to be a viable answer, we need to seriously
revamp and rethink public education.  What we are doing only seems to
work consistently for anglo, especially middle and upper class ones, 
and asian children.   Teachers need to be committed enough to try 
different approaches and methods, leaving rote memorization and
boring texts behind. This will only happen however if ind.pay for
teachers increases.   We need to be paid and treated like the professionals we
are.   
Perhaps merit pay, not supported by unions, is an answer???
I also liked the idea I heard last year about  public schools for
specific groups in danger ex in Detroit a school only for AfAm males
with predominately AfAm teachers.  What do you all think???

As to the issue of keeping the money in the  'hood.   Well, one
reason that more Koreans have stores is because more Koreans gte
loans.  As I understand it, the better your references, i.e.
people who have paid back loans, the better your chances of receiving
a loan.  More Koreans got loans which leads to more Koreans getting
loans.  Someof whom are just of the boat, so to speak and barely speak
English.
    :X
  ZZ

.
.


.
From: mmoore@staff.tc.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Interracial Dating (The Atomic Dog Speaks)
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:52:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Nov11.015259.18980
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Nov10.161313.22887@osf.org> kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
$Regardless, I've seen a lot (and I'm curious to know how you know otherwise?).
$I just don't choose to be with everything I see.
$(FWIW, I 2 yrs ago I used to date someone 38...no kids either. Perfection!)
                      ^^^^                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^

Kenny, how can it be perfection if you ain't datin them no more.


-- 
Malcolm Diallo Moore, CIS-Univ. of Minn.                mmoore@staff.tc.umn.edu
				            	    moor0009@student.tc.umn.edu
"Arresk the Presidink!"                           malcolm@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
		-- Popeye the Intelligent Hoodlum
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: cp7927@oktext.sbc.com (Caryn S. Prater)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality
Reply-To: cp7927@oktext.UUCP (Caryn S. Prater)
Organization: Southwestern Bell
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:53:30 GMT

In article <FXm2TB1w163w@peewee> peewee@infoserv.com (Philip Stromer) writes:
>	>I follow your logic, but as a gay man I don't much cotton to
>	>the motley company in which you've chosen to lump me.  
>	
>Now, now...Gays, drug users, and gamblers are all people who would be        
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>classified as "less than desirable" by the religious right.  You're being 
>judgmental by calling them "motley company".  It's just as bad as if they 
>call you "motley", no?

>
>Just as the marijuana smoker once thought.  Best of luck.  If I had my way,
>all individuals could do whatever they wanted to, as long as they posed no
>immediate danger to anyone else.
>
>But you'd be well-advised to turn straight, before it's too late.  Gay
>people tend to get AIDS.
>
>--Philip Stromer (peewee@infoserv.com)

Ya know Philip I could lay my finger on just what it was about
your post that bothered me so much.  I mean alot of what you
say makes some since ( was that ambiguous or what? :-)) until
now.  You have a very condesending tone to your post.  Did you
realize that?  Ask your wife if condesending might fight?

Caryn

--
Nolite te bastardes carborunodorum
       Author unknown :-)
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:30:23 EDT
From: andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: cito gaston: first af-am manager to win world series?
 <1992Nov6.165107.2462@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>

In article <1992Nov6.165107.2462@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>,
johnson@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Art Johnson) says:
>
>     Last night CNN reported that Cito Gaston has
>been offered a three-year contract by the Toronto
>Blue Jays. This is the first time that Toronto has
>offered any manager a multi-year contract.

This is true. Like all Blue Jays managers, Cito's gotten his share of criticism
but since the World Series, Gaston has gotten nothing but praise in Toronto's
newspapers. He has led the Jays to three (?) ALeast pennants and now the
AL championship and the World Series. He is much appreciated in Toronto
as is Juan Guzman, our star pitcher who destroys that other myth, that
African-Americans can't pitch. The biggest star, and most appreciated in
T.O. is Dave Winfield. Class act all the way. It is sad that the team that
has been most willing in baseball to allow African-Americans (and Dominicans,
which has supplied a steady stream of Jay heroes for years) to prove themselves
is in Canada. We have our problems with racism here, but at least you wont
here anything about Africans being unable to be leaders in sport. Heck, even
the goalie for the Toronto Maple Leafs is African.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat)
Subject: Re: Spike Lee
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:03:07 GMT

In article <Nq2uTB1w163w@peewee> peewee@infoserv.com (Philip  
Stromer) writes:
} What did I say that gave you the impression that I was "doing 
} you a favor"?

Does this sound familiar?

} It's difficult to learn something when 50 people are patting 
} each other's backs.

Warren was right.  You are just pushing words out of your mouth  
to instigate people here to the point that you don't even  
remember what you post.

You are just another pathetic White man.  Your people already  
have enough to be ashamed of ...

Donald - It's time for some action!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american,misc.headlines,alt.activism
From: bing@jazz.concert.net (Carter E. Bing)
Subject: Court Ruling
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:11:48 GMT


 COURT ALLOWS INSURANCE CUTS:
    Supreme Court action Monday will allow employers to sharply cut 
 health insurance coverage for workers with AIDS or other costly 
 illnesses. Without comment, justices declined to hear the plea of 
 the estate of John McGann, whose Houston employer cut AIDS 
 coverage from $1 million to $5,000 after learning he had the 
 disease in 1987. McGann died last year at 47.
     


--
"Why, have you never noticed that opinion without knowledge is
always a shabby sort of thing? At the best is blind. One who
holds true a belief without intelligence is just like a blind
man who happens to take the right road, isn`t he?"  Socrates
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american