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From: tanaka@flab.fujitsu.co.jp (TANAKA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [2nd CFD] fj.rec.travel.misc
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:46:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Kawasaki, Japan.
In-reply-to: smitimko@srcwsd.src.sony.co.jp's message of 22 Jul 92 19:42:55 JST
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In article <2842@srcgw.src.sony.co.jp>
	smitimko@srcwsd.src.sony.co.jp (Shin MICHIMUKO) writes:

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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.
	<NAO.92Jul27170648@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:49:21 GMT


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Then, your judgment will be the right one?...I said it before, but the
most important point between our discussions (Foreigners) it's our 
shared values and thoughts about the japanese society. IMHO, I think
you are only seeing the "Suject inside the suject". To understand what
I'm saying it will very useful to take soc.culture.* as an example. 

Naoki>   $@Ej9F$9$k?M$NGX7J$K$h$C$F%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W$NA*Br$,Ws0UE*$K9T$($k$H$9$l(J
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In fact, didn't everybody doing that? Of course, if you have any software
to select group automactily I will accept... Foreigners posted in fj.misc
not because they are without responsability and didn't know about other
groups, they did it because they *didn't* think any other group would be
suitable for that. This is independent whether you can understand it or 
not... 

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From: saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp (SAITOH Akinori)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [CFD/CFA] fj.rec.bikes => fj.rec.{bicycles, motorcycles}
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:16:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: tokura-lab., Osaka Univ., Japan

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In article <css.b0id4@lab.ntt.jp>, kitagawa@will.ntt.jp (Masahiro Kitagawa) writes:
> 	fj.rec.bikes => fj.rec.{bicycles, motorcycles}

> $B$3$l$KH<$$(J, $B8=9T$N(J fj.rec.bikes $B$OGQ;_$7$^$9!#GQ;_8e(J3$B%+7n4V$O(J 
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From: handa@etlken.etl.go.jp (Kenichi Handa)
Subject: Re: Multi-lingual articles
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab., Japan.
	<NAO.92Jul29174848@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
	<TSS.92Jul29221520@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
	<1992Jul29.154228.13311@etl.go.jp>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:02:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.154228.13311@etl.go.jp>
	ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata) writes:
>> $B;HMQ$9$k$3$H$O$=$m$=$m2DG=$G$9!#$H$$$&$N$O!":#=5Cf$K(B Mule $B!JB?8@8l(B Gnu
>> Emacs $B!K$,H/I=$5$l$k$+$i$G$9!#(B

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From: sakai@db-soft.co.jp (SAKAI Nobuhiro)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:34:56 GMT
	<395@dbsftgw.db-soft.co.jp> <HOSHI.92Jul29202208@sras31.sra.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: dB-SOFT Inc. Sapporo, Japan
In-reply-to: hoshi@sras31.sra.co.jp's message of 29 Jul 92 11:22:08 GMT


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In article <HOSHI.92Jul29202208@sras31.sra.co.jp> hoshi@sras31.sra.co.jp (Hoshi Takanori) writes:

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From: suehiro@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (SUEHIRO Kenji)
Subject: [Objection] [CFD/CFA] mvgrp fj.lang => fj.comp.lang
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Kyoto University, JAPAN
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:08:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.135435.10625@iris.is.tsukuba.ac.jp>,
	yas@softlab.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Shinjo) says:
> 
> fj.lang $@$r(J fj.comp.lang $@$KL>A0$rJQ$($k$3$H$rDs0F$7$^$9!#(J

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From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan]
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:22:26 GMT

In article <TOZAKI.92Jul29131642@radish.math.keio.ac.jp>
tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) writes:

>  $B$=$l$O0c$$$^$9$h!#;d$O(B sci.lang.japan/soc.culture.japan $B$J$iFI$`5$$,(B
>$B$9$k$1$l$I!":#$N(B fj.misc $B$+$iM=A[$5$l$k(B fj.life.in-japan $B$G$O$"$^$jFI(B
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From: sakai@db-soft.co.jp (SAKAI Nobuhiro)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Objection CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:14:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: dB-SOFT Inc. Sapporo, Japan
In-reply-to: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp's message of 24 Jul 92 05:46:21 GMT


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In article <1992Jul24.054621.17461@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp> kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:

 > G1. To attract the topics related to foreigners in Japan and
 >     information they need, and increase the opportunities for discussions
 >     and exchanges of information.
 >     $@F|K\$K:_=;$9$k309q?M$K4X78$9$kOCBj!"H`(J$@$i$,I,MW$H$9$k>pJs$r=8Cf$7$F!"(J
 >     $@0U8+!?>pJs$r8r49$9$k5!2q$rA}$d$9!#(J

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 > G2. To increase the opportunities for foreigners in Japan with
 >     difficulty in writing/reading Japanese to communicate with public
 >     in whatever language.
 >     $@F|K\8l$NFI$_=q$-$K:$Fq$,$"$k:_(J$@F|309q?M$,!"$I$s$J8@8l$G$"$l(J
 >     $@ITFCDjB??t$H%3%_%e%K%1!<%H$G$-$k5!2q$rA}$d$9!#(J
 > 
 > G3. To increase the opportunites for Japanese who are prepared to
 >     communicate in non-Japanese languages to interact with foreigners
 >     in Japan.
 >     $@309q8l$G$b%3%_%e%K%1!<%H$9$k0U;W$N$"$kF|K\?M$,!":_(J$@F|309q?M$H%3%_%e(J
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$@<r0f?-7<(J - SAKAI Nobuhiro - (sakai@db-soft.co.jp)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp
Organization: ME
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:12:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.030126.14810@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp> $@5WLn$5$s(J:
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From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:44:49 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

$@2OLn(J@CSL.Sony$@$G$9!#(J
In article <NAO.92Jul27170648@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp> , 
	nao@jaist-east.ac.jp writes 
>  $@$[$+$KE,Ev$J%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W$,$"$k$K$b$+$+$o$i$:!"JL$N%K%e!<%9%0%k!<(J
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fj.misc                 Various discussions that there are no groups to match.
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Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp
Organization: ME
	<NAO.92Jul29174848@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
	<TSS.92Jul29221520@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:20:36 GMT

In article <TSS.92Jul29221520@kikori89.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp> 
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From: logic@mtak.bsj.com (Masami Takikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan] [Japanese+English]
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:58:28 GMT
Reply-To: logic@mtak.bsj.com (Masami Takikawa)
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Takikawa, Corvallis, Oregon, U.S.A.
Posting-Front-End: Terakoya-u kaku 2.04 March 31, 1990

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In article <TOZAKI.92Jul29171923@radish.math.keio.ac.jp>
	tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI) writes:
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From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: RESULT: CFA fj.windows.ms succeeded
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

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In article <618@apricot.cradle.titech.ac.jp> , 
	momosaki@cradle.titech.ac.jp (Kohei MOMOSAKI) writes 
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Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Slow Progress (Re: RESULT: the 4th ...) [English]
Date: 21 Jul 92 02:49:52 GMT
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

Hi,

I guess many people waiting for the creation of "gaikokujin" group
must be illitated on such slow progress, so I'd better state my
opinion here.

In my feeling, it is better to proceed with agreement of as many
people as possible, after all.  Everyone who are willing should have
their opportunity to express their opinion, and those opinion should
be refrected to our result (charters, group names, ...).  If not,
those people who felt they were ignored in the discussion will loose
their interests, and so we are loosing our coleagues.

Rafael, I do understand your worry that patient people will loose
their interest if we are too slow, but it can't be helped.  We can
re-gain there interests if we are even more slow, because such
impatient people might forget what has hapend a month ago and 
regard it as a brand new activity! :-)  Maybe.

Yet another good news that fj.misc is now place for us :-)
Let's make use of this further.

/* I am looking forward to read Rafael's Mt. Fuji experience.  By the
way, isn't there anybody planning to visit Hiroshima this summer?  I'm
going to stay there around "the day of atomic bomb". */

Anyway, I don't feel like stopping anywhere.  We should proceed,
slowly but steadly.

							Yasushi Kuno