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From: raym@ils.unc.edu (Marlys K. Ray)
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Summary: How about Demi Moore in About Last Night (1986, w/Rob Lowe). How many
	 names in the collection so far?
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:32:07 GMT




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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: My Dinner With Andre - comedy?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:09:30 GMT

In article <cindy.222@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham) writes:

>I watched "My Dinner With Andre" for the first time last week, and I
>thought it was very amusing in parts.  Not that I was laughing all the
>way through it, but overall, I thought it was pretty funny.  Now, my
>co-worker tells me that it wasn't supposed to be a comedy.  Is that
>right?  

No, you were right in the first place.  It is, as you took it, a subtle
comedy about the things people believe and the way they interact.  The
"action" of the movie is how Andre and Wally spar -- it doesn't
particularly take sides on either of them being right or wrong.

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: Film Noir
Keywords: Articals on Film Noir 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:17:51 GMT

In article <mills.17@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> mills@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mike Mills) writes:
>Does anyone have any information or thought on American Film Noir. There 
>doesn't seem to be much available.

There was a good article on film noir in the New York Review of Books sometime
in the last six months.

Wayne

-----------
Wayne Citrin   citrin@soglio.colorado.edu   citrin@cs.colorado.edu
From: cathy@nosc.mil (Cathy A. Benney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: S & E Memo to the Academy
Keywords: Siskel & Ebert
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:16:23 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA

Hello fellow net users,

Last night (Sun. Jan 24), S & E were doing a Memo to the Academy
show.  When I tuned in to it, they were discussing a movie that
they said was a definite possibility as their best film of 92.  
They mentioned that it had a very violent opening scene, but the
violence wasn't continued after that.  It sounded like a movie
worth seeing, but I didn't get it's name.  Did anyone else see
this S & E, and if so, could you send me an email telling me the
movie's name?  I remember that the movie they reviewed just AFTER
this one was Malcolm X.

Thanks in advance,

	Cathy
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From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:14:09 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1k1grvINNauh@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby) writes:
|> In article <C11LM1.C7K@news.swip.net>, bk@analytikerna.se (Bengt KLEBERG) writes:
|> > A (minor) hobby of mine is to 'collect' well know films that featured a famous actor/actress before they became famous. Examples:
|> > 
|> > Harrision Ford in Apocalypse Now
|> > Cristopher Walken in Anni Hall
|> > (this last one is not strictly ok but I'm runing out of examples)
|> > Nicolas Cage in Rumble Fish
|> > 
|> >
|> Mickey Rourke plays the recently paroled arsonist who advises William Hurt
|> on how to burn up the "Breakers" in "Body Heat"
|> 
|> Sharon Stone.... fake wife of Arnie in "Total Recall"

   Sharon Stone in KING SOLOMON'S MINES (1985) with Richard Chamberlain.


|> 
|> James Caan in El Dorado(old John Wayne movie 60's)
|> 
|> Steve McQueen in "The Blob"
|> 
|> Jessica Lange in "King Kong"
|> 
|> Jack Nicholson in "Little Shop of Horrors"
|> 
|> 
|> Coz
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: How much film in the archives?
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:35:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.150915.11223@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> jdurlak@nexus.yorku.ca (Jerome Durlak) writes:
>There have been several notes lately in various newsgroups
>talking about re-releases of movies (The Abyss, Dances With Wolves,
>Blade Runner: The Director's Cut) where the length of the re-release
>is increased for various reasons. How much of the original footage
>is archived? For example, a recent issue of Empire magazine talking
>about Chaplin mentions that the total footage shot equates to 65
>hours running time. Presumably much of this is thrown away in the
>editing process never to be retrieved. How is all this film archived?
>Air-conditioned vaults, warehouses? In 1993 the major studios are
>due to release over 160 movies plus all the independents - that's
>a lot of film!

On large, expensive films (like "Chaplin"), I believe that the studios
now try to keep as much as possible.  I believe that the studios save
only the negatives and print versions of takes that were printed.  Not
all takes of a shot are printed, to avoid expense, and I doubt if most
of the unprinted negative is archived.  The studios have vaults to hold films,
though I believe many studios do not air-condition them, due to expense.
I believe at least one studio has shipped most of their archives off to
a storage facility located in a large cavern in the midwest, where they
get the air conditioning for free, from nature.

I suspect that cheap trashy films that flop do not have much preserved beyond
their final negative, unless there's some other reason to keep it (like
keeping lots of extra violent footage for video release).

Incidentally, I suspect that the 65 hour figure for "Chaplin" included
the running time of all takes for all scenes, as you may have already
guessed.  If Attenborough had showed up at any studio or producer's office 
with a screenplay that would take 65 hours to properly film, they'd have
tossed him out immediately.  A rule of thumb is that one page of script
is about equal to one minute of film.  A 65 hour film would thus run to
around 4000 script pages, which means that Attenborough would have needed 
either a wheelbarrow or a burly assistant to tote it around for him.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: Rising Sun
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:46:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.101919.21041@yang.earlham.edu> douga@yang.earlham.edu (Doug Atkinson) writes:
>In article <00966F32.9EC42120@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 9072falkk@vms.csd.mu.edu (Kathy Falk) writes:
>> I swore I saw a trailer for this film with Sean Connery playing the role
>> of Conner.  Any news on a release date for this one?  Any word on other 
>> members of the cast?
>	I understand Tia Carrere is in it, but that's all I can remember.

Wesley Snipes is also in the movie who plays the detective.

Jake
From: rhogan@phakt.usc.edu (Ron Hogan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Rumor: _American Psycho_
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:13:24 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

sandyl@soda.berkeley.edu (Sandy Lai) writes:

>Actually I had heard the righst had been bought but.. I could have read it on the net. 
>I don't think it would be all that controversial-they have made a movie about Jefferey Dahmer and the material is almost the same. (Granted the Dahmer movie was made really hush-hush).


Yes, there is a Dahmer film-- but the National Organization of Women
didn't criticize Dahmer for perpetuating and endorsing violence against
women (since he didn't kill any), nor was the director of the Dahmer
film characterised as a chauvinist who perpetuated and endorsed violence
against women-- nor were there threats of a boycott against whoever
showed the Dahmer movie, as opposed to the threats of a boycott against
Vintage...

...not to mention the fact that a real-life lower-middle class
alienated frustrated homosexual serial killer is intrinsically
different from a fictional upper class alienated heterosexual
serial killer.

This whole thing got started through a rec.art.books thread where
somebody said they thought American Psycho was funny, and one person
said something along the lines of, "yes, and wouldn't Johnny Depp
make a good Patrick Bateman?"  Not the exact words, but the whole
rumor is based on a comment which was really just idle chitchat.

Ron Hogan
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Abyss .. again
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:03:26 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan25.210523.24266@darwin.sura.net> <1k1qnsINNgol@lynx.unm.edu>
  <1k20otINNlvj@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>

>
>  I have a friend who was one of the divers in the movie.  I hate to contradic
t
> a few people here, but it took 15 rats to shoot that sequence because the
> rats died. That was not breathable water.
>-- 
>==============================================================================
=
>M. Todd Lawson -- Lawson@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

Doesn't the SPCA monitor filmmakers for cruelty to animals? Just how
did the producers manage to get away with killing 15 rats?  No, I'm
no professional rat lobbyist.. just curious.

Harv
From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Golden Globe Winners
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:53:02 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Could some one please post the results of the Golden Globe Awards.  I 
asked for the nominations a few days back and there was no response, so
presumably everyone is really busy.  Just the main (movie) winners would
do...please...

Richard.
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Date: 24 Jan 93 11:29:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan24.062943.19740
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <1993Jan22.160016.25801@nmsu.edu> 
pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:

>Ed, generally I ignore your bizarre posts.  But this time you've gone
>a bit too far:

>In article <1993Jan16.232837.3483@Princeton.EDU>
>egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:

EGN:
><much deleted>
>
>   In "What I Saw at the Revolution", by Peggy Noonan (a working class woman
>   from New Jersey who became a Reagan speechwriter by way of Farleigh
>   Dickinson and CBS News), Noonan makes it clear that she's actually
>   profoundly unsympathetic to the real goals of the Reagan "revolution",
>   which were to make the American people accept a permanent decline in
>   their living standards.  Yet with her incredible verbal facility she
>   deceives even herself, and (like a Soviet intellectual under "dear
>   Father" Stalin) writes beautiful prose about what a great man Reagan
>   is (a page or so later, she admits that he's a child of an alcoholic.)
>
><much more deleted>

JP:
>Surely even you can recognize the total irrelevance of your
>parenthetical comment?  Or will you next be citing the Bible as
>justification for holding people responsible for the sins of their
>fathers?

I am sorry to say that you are missing the force and subtlety of your
interlocutor's ingenious argument.  The justification of his assumption
in the third parenthetical comment, that the sins of the fathers shall
be visited upon the sons, comes from the reference to Stalin in the
previous parenthesis.  When taken in the right manner, the deathless
prose of Mr Ed tends to have the same purgative effect, as the finest
1938 efforts of Uncle Joe.  In short, you have the rare privilege of
witnessing the one-person effort to return the Political Correctness
movement back to its ideological roots.

>-Joe.
>
> 

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Today, decent Jews themselves recognize that their nation has
become a land of madmen."  Edward G. Nilges, December 12, 1991

P.S.  Mr Ed will be happy to learn that Crazy Eddie was finally
extradited to the United States by the Israeli authorities last week.
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From: das@emmapeel.ca.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:46:20 GMT

A very young James Stewart as the villian in 'Rosemarie', starring Nelson
Eddy and Jeanette MacDonald.  ("When I'm calling yooooou, ooo, ooo".)
------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das

"Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching videos?!"
				- Nina in 'Truly, Madly, Deeply'
From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (Jim Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Abyss .. again
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:45:07 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
Distribution: rec
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gharriso@vancouver.gssec.bt.co.uk (Grant Harrison) writes:
>Can anyone confirm or deny the existance of the breathable liquid
>which is shown in the film. You know, the stuff the rat breathes
>and survives ( so does Ed Harris). I remember being told a couple
>of years ago by a friend that the stuff actually exists but seeing 
>the film again last night re-awakened that old scepticism.

It really exists, and word has it that they actually used the stuff
when they filmed the movie because nothing else would have been
believable.

I first remember seeing the stuff (I forget the name) on "That's
Incredible!" (a 70's look-at-this show in the USA).  The general
principle is that gases (oxygen in particular) are very soluble in
this liquid, making the passage of ogygen into the bloodstream
through the lungs very easy.  The only problem is that subjects
occasionally go into shock...

  ______ Jim Berninger: berninge@cs.purdue.edu|Hate is not a Family Value______
  \ \  /   Green Lantern Fan, Extraordinaire  |     Boycott Colorado     \ \  /
   \/\/ "I don't *wanna* play Leona Helmsley!"| Think twice about Oregon  \/\/
    \/      -- Elmyra Duff, Tiny Toons Xmas   |    Watch out for Ohio      \/
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Rumor: _American Psycho_
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:00:55 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <BD.93Jan23080541@bd.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU 
(Brice Dowaliby) writes:

> Sounds like bs to me.  All the fuss and bother with
> LAST TEMPTATION and BASIC INSTINCT are probably the 
> only reason why they made any money.

Oh, you are so right.  I mean Martin Scorcese...what a gimp.  He's
such a hack film-maker, and his movies are such garbage.  And the 
bible?  C'mon!  What a lousy subject, nobody has any interest in a 
book like that.  I mean maybe it would have been worthwhile with a 
half decent actor, but this Willem Defoe character can't act to save 
his life, not to mention every critic can't stand him.

Brice is right on the mark.  _The Last Temptation of Christ_ was
all glitz and publicity.  Never would have made a cent without it.

(sprinkle heavy sarcastic tone throughout)

Greg Bole                          "I always wanted to be an orphan.  I could 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          have, if it wasn't for my parents."
                                         Gary Oldman in _Prick Up Your Ears_
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From: anne@cray.com (Anne Chenette)
Subject: Re: The Crying Game
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:50:36 CST

In article <1993Jan22.182847.24502@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.161701.5317@mloeff01.cpchq.cpc.gmeds.com> dah@cveng121.veheng.det writes:
>>Someone please post a review of The Crying Game.
>>Thanks in advance.

Foreign movies take AGES to get to Minneapolis - they usually get here
just as any rec.arts.movies discussion completely expires!

I just saw The Crying Game, and I'd love to read others' comments
about it.  Did anyone save (or archive) the earlier discussion on
this movie? Could some kind soul repost or send me email?

					Many thanks,
					  Anne Chenette
					    anne@cypress.cray.com
					      or
						..!uunet!cray!anne
From: arnold@pyramid.unr.edu (Bruce M Arnold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Vanishing (U.S. Make I guess()
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:10:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science


Well, I was watching HBH here, and they had a trailer for _THE_VANISHING_
which I do remember seeing as a Dutch film (I think) and it was superb. 
The U.S. verson stars Keefer Sutherland... wonder if it will be as good as
the original?

Bruce..
"RUCE

--
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arnold@pyramid.unr.edu			:	Box 13854
					:	Reno, Nevada  89507
-> "'RUCE"				:	U.S.A.
					:__________________________
The University of Nevada - Reno
___________________________________________________________________>
Yes, There really is another University of Nevada, and we
were here first!  -> (Bruce Arnold speaking to cousin from Ohio)

No, I haven't taken GMBL-101 yet! -> (Bruce Arnold to same cousin)
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: American Psycho (spoiler)
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:58:01 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University



Spoiler for the book "American Psycho" follows















reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

<On "American  Psycho">
[...]
>(Like the belief that it would be a guaranteed hit, which
>doesn't seem too likely.  The book didn't sell all that well, did it?)

I'm in agreement here. This was the worst book I've read in years...a
ridiculous view of "Walter Mitty Daydreams He's Friday 13's 'Jason' While
Flipping Through The Bergdorf-Goodman Catalogue"

At least it didn't take long to finish, and most Hollywood types can
understand all the words.

[Yes, I finished it, in the hope that it would get better...hah!]
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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       "N.I.N.A."       |          [Justin, on Niccolo Machiavelli]
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: S & E Memo to the Academy
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:24:09 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan25.191623.23660@nosc.mil>, cathy@nosc.mil (Cathy A. Benney)

> Last night (Sun. Jan 24), S & E were doing a Memo to the Academy
> show.  When I tuned in to it, they were discussing a movie that
> they said was a definite possibility as their best film of 92.  
> They mentioned that it had a very violent opening scene, but the
> violence wasn't continued after that.  It sounded like a movie
> worth seeing, but I didn't get it's name.

This was of course the movie many of us have been praising here in this
NewsGroup...

_One False Move_

Greg Bole                             "We're talking about a religious 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu           experience here.  I might say 'doth'
                                       or 'thou' or alot of things."
                                         Steve Martin in _Grand Canyon_
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From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Name of hotel in The Shining?
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:22:57 GMT

In article 6116@mixcom.com, Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com> () writes:
>In <1993Jan19.213043.639@pages.com> roxanne!sue (Sue MacIntosh) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know the real name and location of the hotel featured in The  
>>Shining?
>
>
>   The mythical Overlook Hotel in the Shining were sets built on the lot at
>EMI studios in England. However it is based on an actual hotel in very
>similar conditions that writer Stephen King actually stayed at alone for an
>entire month to write the book. I have an interesting article about this
>around somewhere... I'll try to find it and post it here.
>

The actual hotel that inspired The Shining is the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park,
Colorado.  Estes Park is located in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, near
the entrance to Rocky Mountain Park.  Aside from inspiring Mr. King, the hotel
has a fascinating history.  It was built by one of the Stanley brothers, who
made the Stanley Steamer autos.  If you happen to be in Colorado, especially
in the Denver, Boulder or Rocky Mountain Park area, plan to stop in at the
Stanley and sign up for the tour of the hotel.

	Kurt
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From: mlperkin@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mildred l perkins)
Subject: Re: Trailers That Give It Away: Was(Re: Review: SCENT OF A WOMAN)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:36:23 GMT

In <00966CA9.AAFEDA60@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>On a related note (trailers) I saw "Alive" this weekend (great flick!).
>Anyway, one of the trailers before the movie was for National Lampoon's
>Loaded Weapon which is apparently a spoof of cops movies.  They had
>a Hanabal Lectorish character complete with face mask.  They asked him
>what human flesh tasted like. His answer: chicken.  Curious choice to
>show right before "Alive"!

>Mary H.

Is this the same film with the trailer that has a spoof scene from
"Basic Instinct" in which the woman starts to cross her legs, the guys
all lean in for a look, and when it cuts back to the woman there's a
beaver in the chair with the caption: gratuitous beaver shot?
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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Toshiro Mifune
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:40:13 GMT

In article <C1IzI3.BFA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>  
mvburke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mary virginia burke) writes:
> Apropos of nothing in particular, can anyone fill me in on what the 
> redoubtable Mr. Mifune has been doing in recent years?  

I just saw a coming attraction for a film--whose name totally escapes
me--in which he has a fairly large part.  It's set in the Canadian
north (or Alaska) and is about Native Americans.  I assume it will hit
the theaters in another month or so.  (It also has Lou Dianmond
Phillips.)

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
"To make the point [that homosexuals hamper military effectiveness] I'd
say that you would have to sift through your military history till you
find an instance in which failure has been attributed to the presence
of homosexuals on the losing side.  I'm not aware of any such case in
the past 2500 years, but I'd be interested to hear what you find."
-Nathan Engle
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:38007 alt.cult-movies:11994
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wednesday, 20 Jan 1993 13:10:39 EST
From: OLEH <ACPS6969@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Weird List
 <93014.191319SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> <gunnarh.310.727155427@dhhalden.no>
 <1j9akcINNmbu@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>

Djodorowsky also did films such as Holy Mountain, El Topo and , as
mentioned, Santo Sangre.  Holy Mountain and El Topo might be banned in
some places because of its explicit and violent nature.  If you like
these type of films they are a must see.  I like El Topo because it
disgusted me more than any film I have ever seen.
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