HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: waltrip@capd.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
Organization: CAPVAX, JHU/APL
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:20:15 GMT

In article <7338@ayumi.stars.flab.fujitsu.co.jp>, mikhe@flab.fujitsu.co.jp 
writes:
> In article <Bt3qoL.Jn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B.  
> Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>>makes Word nothing more than a toy to me.  Frame is useless due to
>>it's many crashes and sudden logouts.
> 
> Duh? What are you talking about? I use Frame (v3.0.1 that is), with ALL of 
its  
> features on a daily basis and have yet to see it crash or log me out.
	I can't claim to use it on a daily basis or to use all of its features
	but I do use it on an 8mb NeXTstation and have had no problems.

	[...material deleted...]
> I, of course, have no affiliation with Frame other than being a happy 
customer.
	Same here (actually my son is the customer but neither of us has had
	problems).

	[...signatures deleted...]

c.f.waltrip
Internet:	<waltrip@capsrv.jhuapl.edu>
Opinions expressed are my own.
From: irving@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Development Continues
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:44:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug19.114425.28150
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

In <1992Aug18.173215.16591@deepthought.uucp> deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) writes:

>I certainly hope WP or some other word processing application for the NeXT will  
>support STYLES and DESCRIPTIONS like those found in Ami Pro for Windows. 

>For those of you that have not used Ami, when saving a file a use may enter a  
>short description.  When opening files, the user may also select to quickly  
>view these descriptions as filenames are selected, displaying the files  
>description.  Very usefull when you have memo1, memo2; boss1, boss2, ...,  
>bossn, etc.

>Does anyone know if this may or may not be supported.  What about Appsoft's  
>Writenow?

Certainly WP supports this with Document Summary, which may be manually
modified at any time or (optionally) requested at document save.  Opening a
file, however, does not give an option to look at this.  

Also WP has Styles available, and they work pretty handily.
From: deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Development Continues
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:54:44 GMT
Reply-To: Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: ARCI, Inc.

In article <1992Aug19.114425.28150@news.acns.nwu.edu>  
irving@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Myers) writes:
> In <1992Aug18.173215.16591@deepthought.uucp> deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu  
(Neil Greene) writes:
> 
> >I certainly hope WP or some other word processing application for the NeXT  
will  
> >support STYLES and DESCRIPTIONS like those found in Ami Pro for Windows. 
> 
> >For those of you that have not used Ami, when saving a file a use may enter  
a  
> >short description.  When opening files, the user may also select to quickly  
> >view these descriptions as filenames are selected, displaying the files  
> >description.  Very usefull when you have memo1, memo2; boss1, boss2, ...,  
> >bossn, etc.
> 
> >Does anyone know if this may or may not be supported.  What about Appsoft's  
> >Writenow?
> 
> Certainly WP supports this with Document Summary, which may be manually
> modified at any time or (optionally) requested at document save.  Opening a
> file, however, does not give an option to look at this.  
> 
> Also WP has Styles available, and they work pretty handily.

I have not seen too many people happy with Word Perfect on the NeXT just yet,  
although I am sure it has to get better.
-- 
Neil Greene 
Director, Computer Information Systems ARCI, Inc.
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
Email: deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu [NeXTmail]
From: rpomeroy@aunext3.cam.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?---EqB?
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext3.cam.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Aug20.160655.19516@ornl.gov> jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov  
(James G. Blencoe) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug18.172935.6287@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>  
>>cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes:
>>> In article <1992Aug18.023119.19334@lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu  
>>> writes:
>>> > In article <1992Aug17.213921.9430@athena.mit.edu>  
>>> > ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari) writes:

[saving electrons]

>>> > Ideally, TableBuilder should be a palette object.  That way it  
>>> > can be part of spreadsheets, stat packages, presentation  
>>> > packages, publishing, etc., etc..  It should produce output in  
>>> > EPS or in TeX.  You can sell the palette object, along with a  
>>> > front end for it like EqB.
>>> > ---
>>> > Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
>>> > voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
>>> > fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
>>> >                         Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
>>> 
>>> I second what Hal has said.  The only thing I would add is that, while  
>>> there will be some non-EqB people wanting TableBuilder (TaB), EVERY user  
>>> of EqB will also want TaB, especially if it outputs TeX.  Thus, you  
>>> probably ought to provide a "package deal" and also an upgrade for  
>>current  
>>> users of EqB, like me. 
>>
>>Allow me to add my name to the list of people who would be interested in  
>>such a product.  I also would like to see it bundled with EqB, as Mr.  
>>Cahalan suggests in his post.
>>
>>Jim

Ditto
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com
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From: tomi@cc.tut.fi (Heinonen Tomi)
Subject: SML
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:48:34 GMT



Hi!

I have been looking for STANDARD ML (SML) programming language binaries
for NeXT but I haven't found them. Where is that program?
-- 
Tomi Heinonen	 tomi@cc.tut.fi     Tampere University of Technology
                 tomi@nic.funet.fi  NeXT programs
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From: murphy@gibbs.physics.purdue.edu (William J. Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Development Continues
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:30:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department


How about an e-mail address for WordPerfect?  I hate taking time to get
a busy signal on the phone line.

Bill Murphy               | Old Home Cottage Cheese:  The only cottage 
			  | cheese that's not made from formaldehyde, 
murphy@physics.purdue.edu | arsenic, or rodent parts.
From: meza@techlaw.ogi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXSpice
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:38:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: techlaw.1992Aug12.183831.6648
Organization: MARGER JOHNSON McCOLLOM & STOLOWITZ Inc, Portland OR


	I recently acquired a copy of NXSpice from the Purdue Archives.  Does  
anyone know if this program actually works?  Has anyone out there actually used  
it?  If so could you answer a few questions for me?  Thanks

	1. Have any problems been reported with NXSpice.app? 
	2. Is NXSpice.app a self-contained application, or must you have  
additional files to make it run?, such as on-line help or other files.  Does it  
have to be located in LocalApps to run or can you have it in any directory?
	3. Since I don't have the manual yet, I was just fooling around with  
the help command.  There didn't seem to be any subject I could come up with  
that didn't give me a "no such topic" error message, including the command  
"help commands".
	4. Do you of a graphical interface type of Spice available for the NeXT  
platform?  Or at least a version that is different than the basic stripped down  
command-line version?
	5. Do you know anything about plotting programs that work with NXSPice  
available on the Purdue archives such as NXplplot?
	6. Any additional insights or comments would be appreciated.


meza@techlaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Subject: Re: SML
Organization: University of Munich, Germany
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:40:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.094834.4278@cc.tut.fi> tomi@cc.tut.fi (Heinonen Tomi) writes:
>I have been looking for STANDARD ML (SML) programming language binaries
>for NeXT but I haven't found them. Where is that program?

You can find the SML compiler in binary form for the NeXT on our ftp
archive ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in the directory pub/next/ProgLang
(sml-75.tar.Z). The source can be found on the same host (pub/sml/SML-of-NJ) or
at research.att.com (dist/ml). It compiles right "out of the box".

Regards
 Robert Stabl.

-- 
              Robert Stabl    email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Computer Science Institute
      University of Munich      Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316
           Leopoldstr. 11B      FAX: +(49) 89 2180 5246
        D-8000 Muenchen 40
                   Germany
From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:02:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BtFwCn.G8r.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <BtEIqq.AIq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>Since I've gottten so much mail on this topic, I thought I'd demo a
>recent problem with Frame.  Here's something that I bumped into
>recently that crashes Frame 3.0 on a NeXT 2.1 machine:
>
>Go to the References page (this probably works anywhere though) and
>turn on snap-to-grid w/ 1/8".  Lay out a frame that is about 3" wide
>and 2" high.  Inside the frame, place a line segment of any width.
>Place the line segment at the top of the frame after drawing the line
>segment. Shrink the frame to use up the most minimal space to hold the
>line segment.  If you shrank the bottom or top to make the frame
>(essentially) 0" high, then Frame will quit instantly giving you no
>chance to save your work whatsoever. It will die because of something
>like "locked focus on wrong view" error (it'll be logged in the
>Console log). Really incredibly helpful when I used Frame and hadn't
>saved in the past 4 minutes and lost all the work.  Now I've got the
>auto-save set to one minute.

Yup, that did it.  However, I can hardly imagine that this makes 
Framemaker crash and/or log you out "all the time" and renders Framemaker
"unusable".

>
>I didn't think that Frame would die when I originally did this, and I
>didn't even do it to "test" Frame, I just thought that since it knew
>how high the line segment is (I made mine 3 points high), that it
>would make the inside of the frame 3 points high as well.  Alas, it
>dies and never saves the work anywhere before it does so.
>
>The other problems that I have had with Frame have been random, hence
>I cannot come up with repeatable demos of them, but I have been able
>to demo this problem on request.  At first, I thought that my problems
>were RAM problems, but all other apps (and the OS as well) work as
>expected, so it has to be a Frame problem.
>-- 
>-- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
>-- No NeXTmail please


-- 
Anwar Mohammed                           Graduate Student
anwar+@cs.cmu.edu  (NeXTmail welcome)    School of Computer Science
Voice: +1 412 268 3043                   Carnegie-Mellon University
Fax:   +1 412 681 5739                   Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
Reply-To: ray@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:39:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.054623.1080@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>  
tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro) writes:
> But this raises an interesting point:  there is *one* NeXT app which  
might
> do a lot of what you want (particularly once 3.0 arrives) and that's
> EquationBuilder.  Although it's designed to be a GUI equation driver
> for the NeXT it's matrix facilities also allow you to make certain types
> of tables.  Best of all, the output is pure EPSF and can be reopened and 
> edited.  (the hard part with EqB would be things like putting boxes  
around
> the entries, captions, etc. but this might be  done by dropping the  
finished
> product into, say, Diagram!).  Grab the EquationBuilder Demo from sonata
> (it's in 2.0-release/demos I think), install it, bring up the Help panel
> and read document 09Tables.rtfd for a description of how to use the  
matrix
> facilities to make a table  (it would be fairly easy to make most of  
what
> you posted).
> 
> Best --- Tom

Before people get too excited, EqB wasn't really designed to do tables and  
hence, doesn't do them very well.  We were unsure we should even mention  
it in the docs.  The only reason we did so was that there seemed to be no  
better tool available.

That having been said, we have been toying with the idea of fleshing out  
our Matrix class so that it can form the basis of a legitimate table  
editor (TableBuilder?) that does all the wonderful things that one would  
hope for.  The only question we had was whether there really was a need  
for this sort of thing.  Comments, wish lists, PO's??? :-)

Ray Ghanbari                                
Digital Tool Works
ray@dtw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Subject: 3.0 Upgrade--includes LISP,MATHEMATICA&IMPROV ?
Keywords: upgrade
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:49:52 GMT

Does anyone know....you beta user types out there....
when we upgrade to 3.0, do we still get lisp, mathematica and improv ? Or  
atleast are we given an option to prevent them from being destroyed during  
the upgrade process ?  Thanks

Anthony Holland
NeXT Campus Support
Music Department
Skidmore College
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rmcghee@fnma.com(Rich McGhee)
Subject: Daily Planner?
Reply-To: rmcghee@fnma.com
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:34:30 GMT

Anybody using a good daily planner/calendar program?  Which one?

--
Rich McGhee
Federal National Mortgage Association
Wash DC
NeXTMail: rmcghee@FNMA.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: randy@appsoft.com (Randy Adams)
Subject: Free Appsoft Draw
Followup-To: pseymour@appsoft.com
Keywords: Appsoft Draw
Reply-To: randy@appsoft.com
Organization: Appsoft, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:58:44 GMT

A fully functional copy of Appsoft Draw which you can authorize for 30 days has  
been uploaded to the sonata.cc.purdue.edu archive under /pub/next/demos. 

Draw has been shipping for three months and is getting good reviews from users.   
Chuck Hansen at Motorola writes that Appsoft Draw is "awesome."  

Independent designer Michael Bodily says, "Draw is easier to use  
than Illustrator.  It's perfect for corporate or in-house use."  NeXTWORLD  
magazine calls it "ideal as a basic drawing tool for both general users and  
professional illustrators."  

Find out for yourself.  Here's how it works.  You have to first download the  
AppsoftDraw.tar file and install it.  Then when you start your copy of Draw,  
you will be asked to call Appsoft, toll free, at 1-800-428-2777.  When you call  
us and give us your serial number, we will give you an authorization number on  
the spot which will turn on Draw for 30 days.  If you get stuck, consult the  
fully indexed Help files included with the application.  Or call us direct and  
we will be happy to help you out.

Spread the word about  Appsoft Draw!  Feel free to give a copy of your demo  
disk to anybody else with a NeXT machine.  Enter the Appsoft Draw Art Contest  
described in the enclosed flier.  Send us your creations and you could win free  
copies of Appsoft Draw and Appsoft Image, our new photo editing and image  
processing package due out in October.  Above all, tell us what you think about  
the application.  We are always interested in feedback and suggestions.

Peter Seymour
Director of Sales

pseymour@appsoft.com

Appsoft, Inc.
255 Shoreline Dr., Suite 520
Redwood City, CA 94065
415 802-2900   fax   415 592-6043
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Subject: EquationBuilder - WriteNow - Create, questions, etc.
Organization: Brigham Young University -- Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 19:55:23 GMT

A few questions for those of you who are using equation builder:
1.  When you want to write   lim f(x) = f(a), for example, can
you put the  x -> a  *under* the "lim" ?
2.  Does it allow you to place superscripts and subscripts (both)
on any character?
3. How about built-up fractions containing things like integrals
and derivatives and limits and summations and ...
4. Can you paste into WriteNow (the one distributed by NeXT before
appsoft came along)?
5.  Assuming cost is not a factor, how does it compare with something 
like "Create" for constructing technical documents, papers, texts, etc.
6.  Will the "new" version of WriteNow allow for overstrike, so
you can place superscripts and subscripts on the same character?
7.  Can you copy one of your EquationBuilder creations from the document
you pasted into, and then put if back into EquationBuilder to modify it?

For a while now, I have been using the old Draw from the Demo folder to
do things like make systems of pde's or built up fractions, summations,
etc.  Also to modify things like Mathematica plots (adding text,
shrinking, etc.) and then just pasting into WriteNow.  The main problem
with this is that you must save all such items with Draw because once
you paste them into the document, you have no way to modify it later
(you can copy it from the doc all right, but when you paste back into
Draw, you can't do anything with it).

Users comments very welcome.

-Bill

--
Professor William V. Smith
Phone: 1-801-378-2061 Fax: 1 801 378 2800
email: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu  or  uunet!hamblin.math.byu.edu!smithw
NeXTmail: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu
SMail: Math Dept. -- 314 TMCB; BYU; Provo, UT 84602 (USA)
From: ews@netcom.com (Ed Sznyter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Preview: conforming PS problem
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:02:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

It seems that if I put the %%Pages: and the %%Page: directives
into my postscript file, Preview then ignores the %%BoundingBox.
What is the matter with the following?

%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 100 100 200 200
%%Pages: 1
%%EndComments
%%EndProlog
%%Page: 1 1
1 0 0 setrgbcolor
100 100 moveto 200 200 lineto stroke
%%Trailer
%%EOF
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow - hyphens
Date: 16 Aug 92 06:57:59 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Bob Peirce #305 writes
> I haven't been able to find this in the manual.  Is there a way to do
> automatic hyphens like nroff?  If not, do other packages like Frame and
> PasteUp do hyphens?

Yes, PasteUp supports hyphenation (in fact, in several languages).  Frame
also supports hyphenation.  WriteNow does not support hyphenation.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California
From: ppoh@amethyst.tcs.tufts.edu (Paul B. Poh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WhichX?
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:49:43 GMT
	<1992Aug21.053718.24992@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


In article <1992Aug21.053718.24992@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
>  Regardless whats out there in PD for X I would go commercial.
>
>  For this reason, X on the NeXT is supported by volunteers who don't
>  gain commerically.  Now given NS3.0 is about to be released you can
>  be sure that the commerial vendors have made sure that their products
>  are compatible with future OS releases.
>
>  Just my thoughts on this matter.

Personally, I'm going to make sure that my version of the X-server will
work with NS3.0 :=) since I plan to install 3.0 when I get it. Speaking of
X servers, I was wondering if anyone was working on a pd rootless X server.
I had heard that there was some interest a few months ago.

Paul.
--
Paul Poh                        Unix Systems Programmer
ppoh@amethyst.tcs.tufts.edu     Computer Services, Tufts University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dpape@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Pape)
Subject: NetNews CD
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:50:42 GMT

Has anyone gotten the news reading source on Sterling  Software's 
Net News CD to compile and run on the Next?

The Makefile says that there is a NeXT compiling option, but the 
process aborts because it says that it can't find the "unistd.h"
include file????

Help!!
Daniel Pape
dpape@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Development Continues
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 14:50:11 GMT

In article <BtEJ6J.B28@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B.  
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Now, I see that the Windows version is getting all the glory and all
> the snazzy new stuff, while the perfectly capable NeXT platform
> receives nothing.  To me, this is being burned by WP.
> 
> -- 
> -- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
> -- No NeXTmail please

Why does it always seem that the .edu'ers never understand the economics of  
running a business?  If I had a package that was across a number of platforms,  
MOST of my effort and new design would be on that platform that sold the most,  
irregardless of the lack of elegance on that platform.  I gotta eat, pay my  
employees and survive until tomorrow.  A company the size of Word Perfect would  
go broke if they concentrated on putting all the newest bells and whistles on  
one of their smallest platforms (by sales), while their competitors ate away at  
their `cash cow' by questioning their commitment to Windows in all the rags.

Jim De Arras
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Development Continues
Reply-To: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:30:43 GMT

hinds@cmgm.Stanford (Alexander Scott Hinds) writes:
>I got burned by them when I purchased Amiga Wordperfect.  I won't make the  
>same mistake twice.  Naturally, this is just my opinion, not advice.

I am in the same boat (almost) in that I too was very reluctant to buy
WordPerfect for the NeXT because of WP/Amiga experience.  I got
WP/NeXT because of the back-to-school-bundle offer that made it a lot
more attractive.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
-- No NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: Appsoft Draw crash
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:40:10 GMT

royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland) writes:

>[... AppSoft Draw has been crashing on me; help! ...]

One netter suggested I contact Joe Xavier at AppSoft.  Before I had
time, however, Peter Seymour (hope I got the spelling right) from
AppSoft phoned me at my home in order to find out how AppSoft could
help.  I was quite pleasantly surprised.  Looks like I'll be getting
an update that may correct the problem, and will also send them my
document so they can pick apart its guts.  :~)

As I bought my copy of Draw on the half-price offer put out by
MediaLogic for TopDraw, before it became AppSoft Draw, and as I
hadn't bought the Draw support package, I was pleased to receive
this level of support from AppSoft.  (In fact, Peter mentioned that
they have changed their support policy, so it is now not a charged-for
item, nor are non-major upgrades.)  Thanks, guys.
-- 
Royce Howland   --   Everything is IMHO   |  "I can eat enormous quantities
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or royce%splunge@atlantis.uucp            |   Mrs. S-C-U-M."  --Mr. Neutron
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