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From: jussi@lut.fi (Jussi Salminen)
Subject: Finnish League, 24th round
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:21:03 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


	Finnish League, 24th round, 16th August:


FC Haka		3-1	FC Oulu		(2-0)		1 370
 4. Juha Lahtinen	68. Vesa Tauriainen
10. Lahtinen
76. Mika Nurmela

HJK		2-0	KuPS		(0-0)		2 773
72. own goal
88. Rami Rantanen

Jaro		3-2	FC Ilves	(2-2)		1 687
30. Paul Lindholm	11. Gotsha Tkebutshava
35. Lindholm		38. Kari Rissanen
57. Marko Sorvisto

FC Jazz		2-0	TPS		(2-0)		3 395
 2. Luis Antonio
34. Jarmo Alatensio

FC Kuusysi	1-6	RoPS		(0-3)		1 768
85. Kimmo Tarkkio	17. Stuart Beards
			19. Vasili Karatajev
			21. Beards
			61. Beards
			67. Tero Kemppainen
			73. Ari Tegelberg

MyPa		3-0	MP		(3-0)		1 676
22. Mauri Keskitalo
24. Yrjo Happonen
30. Keskitalo


Table:
                             GP    W   T   L    GF     GA     PTS

 1.  FC Jazz (Pori)          24   14   6   4    48     30      48
 2.  FC Kuusysi (Lahti)      24   15   2   7    39     27      47
 3.  HJK (Helsinki)          24   14   3   7    45     30      45
 4.  MyPa (Myllykoski)       24   11   7   6    38     18      40
 5.  Jaro (Pietarsaari)      24   10   6   8    31     29      36
 6.  RoPS (Rovaniemi)        24   10   4  10    43     35      34
 7.  FC Haka (Valkeakoski)   24    9   5  10    29     42      32
 8.  TPS (Turku)             24    8   7   9    24     23      31
 9.  FC Ilves (Tampere)      24    8   3  13    35     39      27
10.  KuPS (Kuopio)           24    6   5  13    26     39      23
----------------------------------------------------------------------
11.  FC Oulu                 24    6   3  15    28     50      21
======================================================================
12.  MP (Mikkeli)            24    6   3  15    20     44      21


Top goalscorers:

17: Ismo Lius (HJK) and Luis Antonio (FC Jazz)
11: Kimmo Tarkkio (FC Kuusysi)
10: Jukka Turunen (MyPa), Mauri Keskitalo (MyPa),
    Stuart Beards (RoPS) and Saku Laaksonen (FC Jazz)
 9: Ari Hjelm (FC Ilves), Ari Tegelberg (RoPS),
    and Marko Rajamaki (TPS)


	Next matches 23rd August: FC Haka-RoPS, HJK-FC Ilves, Jaro-TPS,
				  FC Jazz-KuPS, FC Kuusysi-MP, MyPa-FC Oulu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: German Bundesliga 1 results
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:38:44 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association

hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister) writes:

>Here are the results of German Bundesliga 1:

>Rk.    Club       +  0  -   G+ G- P+ P-
>=======================================
> 1 B. Muenchen    1  O  O    3-O  2:O    

>: Karlsruhe     4 - 2  M'gladbach
>:--------att.: 22 000-----------------
>: 1:0 Carl                       (17)
>: 1:1 Moelby                     (18)

I have seen this goal credited to other players on television and in papers.
What is the official story?

>Hamburger SV  1 - 1  VfB Stuttgart  :
>-------att.: 35 000-----------------:
>Walter misses foul pen.       (59)  :

Some claims that that was his third miss since 88 (on penalty).
Impressive.

>The guy who did the date planning did a very bad job since
>Dortmund, Bochum, Wattenscheid and Schalke are so close
>together that you can start in Dortmund and can pass the
>stadiums of the other clubs in a rather straight line,
>about 30 km long. And all four teams played against each
>other, which meant of course 20 km traffic jam from Dortmund
>to Bochum and 10km jam from there to Schalke....

Speaking of Bochum: on Saturday I saw a great t-shirt on die Sportsstudio;
it had three rows of text: the upper one (small) said "Niemals zweite 
bundesliga", the middle (big) said "UNABSTIEGBAR" and the lowest (small)
said "VfL Bochum". Where can you get such a thing?

Btw, why did Bayern play with Olaf Thon as libero?!?!?
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen      | Bramming Boldklub - eh ...
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |
      Glasgow Rangers - AC Milan - FC Barcelona
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: weymouth@percpt.enet.dec.com (Don Weymouth)
Subject: Makita Cup
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:26:35 GMT


The final of the Makita Cup was on just now on Prime Network (NESN in New
England).

Sampdoria 1 - Leeds United 0
From: fkhoury@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Diego A. Maradona)
Subject: Re: reply to Carlos (long, 1.5 pages)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Reply-To: fkhoury@ics.uci.edu (Diego A. Maradona)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:43:39 GMT


Stop posting wrong and misleading information, Francis, Will ya?
Only in the last fourteen years, Argentina participated in all of them.
According to your posting, Argentina has been in the finals only 4 times.
Where do you get this info. from?  Could please release the sources of
your info. so that other people like me can absorb from it and be grateful.

But aside from that, I am going to give some information and you will
be thankfull cuz next time you talk, you don't sound ignorant like you
just did in your article.

Argentina was in the FIRST final of the FIRST WORLD CUP ever when they
lost to Urguay in 1932.  Adding that to 1978, 1982, 1986 and 1990 will give
a result of 5 times (Assuming you know how to add).  I don't want
to go through all other world cup that Argentina has been to beside
the 5 listed above.  I believe that proving you wrong once is enough to
prove that your info. is the most buyist info. I have ever read.  But,
I want to thank you cuz you really made me laugh for half an hour after
I read your posting.  According to your posting, AUSTRIA HAS WON THE WC.

Maybe it is a better idea for people to familiarize themselves with soccer
before they do any posting.  This network is for those who are familiare
and know, if not too much, at least something about soccer.


           Have a good time looking up correct info., Francis

                                Fuad

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     ***-->The sky is blue with white; so GOD is a fan of ARGENTINA**<--
                       and the King DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA
From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Wanted
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:44:50 GMT
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.

In article <9208171355.aa26406@ingate.microsoft.COM> t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci) writes:
>List of the...
>
>1.  Sites of past WC finals.
>2.  Years.
>3.  Countries in the final.
>4.  Scores.
>5.  Winner.
>
>Also, if not asking too much, respective info for 3rd and 4th place finishers.
>
>Thanks.
>Francis.

 1) Uruguay 1930
    Final : Uruguay - Argentina 4:2
    3/4 place : Yugoslavia, USA (no match)

 2) Italy 1934
    Final : Italy - Czechoslovakia 2:1 a.e.t.
    3/4 place : Germany - Austria 3:2

 3) France 1938
    Final : Italy - Hungary 4:2
    3/4 place : Brazil - Sweden 4:2

 4) Brazil 1950
    Final : Uruguay - Brazil 2:1
    3/4 place : Sweden - Spain 3:1
    ***Note: in 1950 there was no real final match, but
       a final group of 4 teams. I quoted the matches which
       were directly decisive for the final result.

 5) Switzerland 1954
    Final : Germany - Hungary 3:2
    3/4 place : Austria - Uruguay 3:1

 6) Sweden 1958
    Final : Brazil - Sweden 5:2
    3/4 place : France - W.Germany 6:3

 7) Chile 1962
    Final : Brazil - Czechoslovakia 3:1
    3/4 place : Chile - Yugoslavia 1:0

 8) England 1966
    Final : England - W.Germany 4:2 a.e.t.
    3/4 place : Portugal - USSR 2:1

 9) Mexico 1970
    Final : Brazil - Italy 4:1
    3/4 place : W.Germany - Uruguay 1:0

10) W.Germany 1974
    Final : W.Germany - Netherlands 2:1
    3/4 place : Poland - Brazil 1:0

11) Argentina 1978
    Final : Argentina - Netherlands 3:1 a.e.t.
    3/4 place : Brazil - Italy 2:1

12) Spain 1982
    Final : Italy - W.Germany 3:1
    3/4 place : Poland - France 3:2

13) Mexico 1986
    Final : Argentina - W.Germany 3:2
    3/4 place : France - Belgium 4:2 a.e.t.

14) Italy 1990
    Final : W.Germany - Argentina 1:0
    3/4 place : Italy - England 2:1

================================================

Note : this is all taken off my head, so don't flame me for an
eventual mistake.

All WC results (including eliminations), all WC finals
players and scorers, and many more stuff can be found in
"Encyklopedia pil~karskich mistrzostw swiata" by A.Gowarzewski.
However, I have no idea how to get this book outside Poland.
Should you need some result or other info, please
feel free to e-mail me.

Cheers!

---------------

Michal~ Szleper                        My opinions are my opinions.
(michals@fuw.edu.pl)                   Quite predictable.
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 07:48:10 CET
From: <AFALLA@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: N. Forest v Liverpool result please


Forest won 1-0
From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Arc outside penalty box
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:44:05 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: The arc is 10 yards away from the penalty spot.  It is there to help the
: referee identify encroachment during the taking of a penalty kick.  As
: with all free kicks, defenders must be at least 10 yards from the spot
: of the ball; a penalty kick is no exception.

  Don't forget, the goalkeeper's teammates must also remain outside the
  penalty area/arc and can be guilty of encroachment (to disrupt the kicker?).

  So, everybody (except the keeper and the kicker) must remain outside.
  In fact, the designated kicker must be INSIDE the penalty area before the
  whistle is blown to take the kick.  



   



-- 
Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions 
are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  If you don't like it - get out of my country.   
"Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: ALL EC TIPPING DUDES PLEASE READ THIS *NOW* !!!
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia 
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:50:06 GMT


Hi out there, I have been having trouble contacting a couple of you
tipping competitors via email. My local mailer has been returning my
mail with the usual "Unknown" stuff ...

The problem email addresses are (these are what I currently have on my list) :-

remund@switch.ch		Franziska Remund
p.crosland@frec.bull.fr		Pierre Crosland

If these are wrong, or actually whether or not they are wrong or right, could
these people please write back to me as soon as possible to let me know what
the proper addresses are.

Thanks,

Tim Hatfield     (timh@extro.ucc.su.oz.au)
Competition Administrator 
  
-- 
Tim Hatfield (B Sc)      _--_|\  | "Indeed in nothing is the power of the Dark 
EX-University of Sydney /      \ |  Lord more clearly seen than in the  
timh@extro.ucc.su.oz.au \_.--._* |  estrangement that divides all those who 
ak530@po.cwru.edu             v  |  still oppose him." Haldir, Lord Of The Rings
From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Australia - Poland Semifinal Result
Date: 15 Aug 1992 03:16:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug13.164003.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au> c9106863@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (LORD MICK HAS SUMMONED YOU...) writes:
>We're just sick of your ignorance in Australia trying to qualify for the
>World Cup. Godammit!!!, even the president of FIFA thinks that Australia 
>have an extremely difficult qualifying round.
>Australia has to travel half the world to just qualify when other continents
>have to travel small distances.
>We all agree that Australian soccer is not a superpower:we're just looking
>for some respect!!!!!
>The Australian Soccer Federation is in debt just because it has to send its
>national teams around the globe to qualify for tornaments - where's the
>justice in this!!!

Nick
	It is indeed sad that Australia has to travel that far to play against
teams of some caliber; however, winning those games is the only honest way for
Australia to make it to the WC finals. There are, simply put, no other real
soccer teams in the close geographic proximity, with the possible exception of
South Korea. Nobody could reasonably argue that Australia should be let in the
WC finals as a reward for being demonstrably better than Vanuatu, Fiji, KiribatiBelau and Tuvalu!!
	A possible solution is organizing a two week qulaifying tournament so-
mewhere in Asia and invite Australia; this idea is prone to being opposed thoughby those Asian countries that would otherwise get larger revenues (i.e sprea-
ding their games on a longer period, playing some games at home, etc,etc.)
	And, as a matter of fact, how far and often does Australia travel? Cor-
rect me if I am wrong, but Australia, after winning its local group has to play
one elimination game against a South American or European team. If this is true
the burden does not seem so unreasonable...
	Rest assured I have all respect for Australian soccer, irrespective of
the reasons which precluded its presence to the WC finals.

Good luck next time

-- 
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: lucky goals, re: Spain vs. Poland
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:24:03 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

>>>>> "Francis" == Francis Stanisci (frans@microsoft.com)

Francis> Let's get something straight here once and for all.

Francis> Many of the goals that I see in *professional" futbol matches
Francis> are NOT lucky.

But *some* are.

Francis> So let's not refer to *goals* as lucky.  The plays that led to the 
Francis> goals may have been lucky, but chances are the shots were not.

Why not? I sure have seen Preben Elkjaer put a toe to a passing ball
in a situation where he didn't even seem certain of the where the goal
was and still have the ball make it's way into the net. I remember a
situation where a goalkeeper dived for a flat shot, only to see the
ball hit a tuft and pass over him. The list goes on. There sure are
goals that are pure luck, just as there are situations where only bad,
bad luck prevents a player from scoring -- hey, I saw B1909 miss a
chance to equalize in the final minute of a Danish superliga game this
weekend due to what I can only call bad luck.

Francis> Can we possibly attain a level of communication that is less
Francis> hypocritical and nasty, and stick more with the *facts* and
Francis> not conjecture?

Fine with me. 

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.spain
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Dundee (Was Re:Scottish Champions Match-Up 15-8-92)
From: R.D.Lynn@massey.ac.nz (R.D. Lynn)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:28:10 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

In article: <Bt3Knz.KIA@research.canon.oz.au> irae@jelly.research.canon.oz.au
(Ian Rae) writes:

>The first match up of the Scottish Champions of last year (Rangers from the  
>premier and Dundee from the first) took place at Dens Park on Saturday 15/8/92. 

>Score:
>	Dundee	4	Rangers 3
 
>	Celtic	2	Arabs	0
>	Falkirk	2	Hibs	1
>	Hearts	2	Partick	1
>	Motherwell 2	Aberdeen 1
>	St Johnstone 3	Airdrie	0

Being a Scottish football fan here in New Zealand (though never having left
N.Z.), I was wondering if there were religious differences between Dundee
and Dundee United? An Arsenal fan I knew told me that there were and the same 
applied to teams from the big cities in the North of England. I was wondering
if someone could tell me if it is true or not?

BTW, I think the updates on the football are great, even though several of
the posters (those of the blue persuasion) have problems with the facts! :-) 
Heres to a second Ranger's loss on Saturday and a Celtic treble for 92-93! :-)
(Flame suit at the ready!)

Rob
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Wanted
Date: 17 Aug 1992 15:56:55 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

List of the...

1.  Sites of past WC finals.
2.  Years.
3.  Countries in the final.
4.  Scores.
5.  Winner.

Also, if not asking too much, respective info for 3rd and 4th place finishers.

Thanks.
Francis.
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Subject Header
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:38:17 GMT

Hey everybody,

	Can we please take a moment to clean up the subject headers in these 
postings.... It really helps if the subject of the message actually (!) 
relates to what the subject header is. (I'm soooo confused....)

	josef
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Re: FIFA proposed changes to (OCEANIA) Southern America
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 11:15:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.071717.23245@math.ucla.edu> dstein@rhea.math.ucla.edu (David Stein) writes:
>
> Continent   #T  #QP   QP/T   #P    P/T
> ---------------------------------------
>    Europe    5   21   4.20   31   6.20
>S. America    2    5   2.50    5   2.50
>N. America    2    6   3.00    6   3.00
>    Africa    3    7   2.33   11   3.67
>      Asia    3    6   2.00    6   2.00
> Australia    1    3   3.00    5   5.00
>
>  Anyway, from the above it seems Europe is slightly under-represented
                                             ^^^^^^^^
A factor of 2 is *slightly* ?  You should read point 4. of my
article "Soccer in Barcelona 92 - some final thoughts", posted
some 5-6 days ago.

Cheers.

---------------

Michal~ Szleper                        My opinions are my opinions.
(michals@fuw.edu.pl)                   Quite predictable.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: sgilmour@crash.cts.com (Stephen Gilmour)
Subject: Re: Did New Zealand really beat Scotland in 1982 ???        
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:48:23 PDT

In article <mikec.714208042@unixg.ubc.ca> mikec@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Cherkassoff) writes:
>In <1992Aug19.011121.17716@CS.ORST.EDU> visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti) writes:
>
>
>>For ex, in 1982 South America had 4 hard spots: Brasil, Argentina, Chile 
>>and Peru, and some European team was defeated by New Zealand who attended
>>the Cup.
>
>The group with New Zealand in 1982 consisted Brasil, USSR, Scotland and
>New Zealand. New Zealand did not qualify for the second round. USSR
>has beaten them 3-0, so the only possibility for what you're saying
>is true is that New Zealand has beaten Scotland, which I doubt.
>Somebody to clear it, please ?
>
Scotland beat New Zealand 5 - 2.
Scotland took a 3-0 lead before NZ pulled it back to 3-2, then
the Scots put 2 more in.

Actually, this is about the only time that we Scots have gotten
a reasonable result against a so called "minnow"

Stephen Gilmour - Welcome To Ibrox
From: hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Some results from German cup, 1st round
Date: 21 Aug 1992 10:20:19 GMT
Organization: CS Department, University of Dortmund, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: zorro
Originator: hofmeist@zorro

Here, a little bit belated, the other German cup first
round results:
Salmrohr         2 - 0  Wattenscheid
Siegen           0 - 6  VfB Stuttgart
Fuerth           0 - 2  VfL Bochum
Bergedorf        1 - 3  Leverkusen
Goettingen       1 - 3  Schalke
Juelich          1 - 5  Bremen
Lueneburg        0 - 3  Karlsruhe
Regensburg       2 - 1  Luebeck
Halle            1 - 4  Dortmund
Emden            1 - 5  Saarbruecken
Duesseldorf Am.  1 - 2  M'gladbach
Wehen            2 - 3  Frankfurt
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: manoel@wam.umd.edu (Manoel Mendonca)
Subject: Re: FIFA proposed changes to (OCEANIA) Southern America
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.065619.21983@fuw.edu.pl> michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.191837.8347@nntp.hut.fi> f36655e@taltta.hut.fi (Kalle Mikkola) writes:
>>To be serious, Europe should have more places that SA, but SA had 4 
>>teams in '90 which all qualified to the second round. They should 
>>have >=6 teams '94, not 2 1/2. As an Europian I can see that at least
>>2 places could easily be taken from Europe and 1 from Asia (I think
>>they have 2 teams though they have never had any good ones).
>
>You must be joking, Kalle. South America has hardly more than 6
>countries at all, so it definitely not just those ">=6 teams" in
>WC finals. Europe has got about 30 countries, out of which some
>20 are not worse than Paraguay, Peru or Colombia. In my opinion,
>South America should have some 4 teams in WC final, but not more.
>On the other hand, one could easily reduce the represention of
>Asia and North+Central America, since these are most often the
>weakest teams in WC finals. But do not reduce the respresentation
>of Europe! This is nonsense!
>
>Cheers.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>My opinions are my opinions. Quite predictable.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Michal~ Szleper                          "All you need is love, love,
>(michals@fuw.edu.pl)                      Love is all you need..."
>
	South America has 13 countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, 
Chile, Colombia, Equador, French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru,
Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela .

-- Manoel Mendonca
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RE: Who should play on a national team?
Date: 21 Aug 1992 12:47:32 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

One advantage to such a rule would be that *rich* teams could not *buy* 
there way to the top.

In other words, talented players would not be so easily stolen from 
other countries.  This way richer teams would not have an unfair advantage.

If that's the way it works, then I would favor it whole heartedly!

This would allow less fortunate teams (financially speaking) to hold on 
to there more skilled players.

This may also be a good rule for coaches/managers as well.

Francis.
----------
From:   <netmail!160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu>
To:  <s947607@umslvma.BITNET>
Subject: Who should play on a national team?
Date: Friday, August 21, 1992 4:29AM

An interesting question: is the current FIFA system fair enough when it 
comes to
national team eligibility? As far as I understand, once a player 
aquires a citi-
zenship he can play for that particular national team provided that he did not
play for another national team prior to that.
Even the most non-Marxian statistician will notice that rich countries (espe-
cially those that had colonies) attract foreign born players to a larger ex-
tent than poor countries do.
USA has at least four of them; 30 years ago Spain had quite a few 
Hungarians and
Argentineans clad in yellow/red; I think Switzerland has a forward whose name
is Kubilay Turkylmaz (and who, incidentally, plays in Italy!) I am not sure
where was Rijkaard born (Gullit apparently was born in Amsterdam); and the
list can go on and on.
	The break-up of Soviet Union will most likely result in an equilibrium
similar to the one in the British Isles: at some point in time a player can
elect to be Ukrainean, Bielorussian, Russian, Armenian, etc...
Question is: given the increased player mobility, does international soccer
need firmer nationality criteria? Is place of birth a good enough one?



--
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics