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From: bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes)
Subject: From the Obituaries...
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:34:14 GMT


April 1,1992
 
     Pasadena, Ca
 
Todd P Whitesel, a professor at the California Institute of Technology,
died of suffocation yesterday.  He was 12 years old.
 
  Mr. Whitesel died Tuesday in his apartment at Cal Tech, apparently buried
by the virtual weight of all the electronic mail he had failed to answer.
"He was just lying there, crushed under that all that crap" said one
Cal Tech student who asked not to be identified.
  "We figured something was wrong, because he hadn't answered any email in
months.  But, we had no idea that something this horrible could have
happened," he went on to say.
  Todd left a legacy of unfinished computer programs behind him, programs
which will now remain incomplete forever.  Programs such as Lord High Giffer,
BinSCII II and The Video Subtitler will not be completed. "His death has
been a terrible blow to the Apple // community" one industry spokesman
was quoted as saying.
 
                                               Associated Press
-30-
;-)
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From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: HFS FST problems (was Re: ir2)
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:00:46 GMT
Reply-To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Damage Inc.

In article <1992Apr11.203855.14411@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>  
bazyar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:
> 
> >Can you isolate this as any of the following:
> 
> >    - a GS/ShrinkIt problem
> >    - an HFS FST problem       <<< - This baby
> >    - a system 6.0 problem
> 
> >Given the reports we've been having, I suggest people avoid using HFS
> >partitions for active use...  Use them to store programs and data, but
> >definitely do NOT use them to unpack stuff from GScii or GSHK.
> 
>   Before we start a panic, let me just say that I used an HFS partition
> for GNO development for several months with no problems other than
> with Edit-16: saving an edited file to an HFS partition results in
> a 512 byte file, no matter how long it's supposed to be.  This is
> related to the GScii problem, and it _has_ been reported through
> the proper channels to Apple.

This is true.  The specific problem occurs when a file is opened on an HFS  
volume and is set to use NewLine for reading.  Once the first ReadGS call is  
made to this file, any calls after that to WriteGS on a file on the HFS volume  
(no tests done yet on multiple HFS volumes) will return a transferCount of $200  
bytes, and no more (I have no idea what happens when requestCount <$200 in this  
case).  I don't know what makes the problem go away, but things seem to start  
over when you use GSHK and decode something to the HFS volume (perhaps Andy  
opens a file specifically with NewLine off).

Derek
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 woes, and other things
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:07:18 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <HPq1iB3w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
[...]
>REALLY kind of annoying that IconEd didn't do this...was the color flag 
>introduced relatively recently (during the history of GS icons)?

Nope, that flag bit has been present ever since the first system disk
that included QuickDraw Auxiliary & DrawIcon.  The bit is documented
in Toolbox Reference, Volume 2.

-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sys 6 and Transprog
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:23:18 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Apr 05 92 at 21:16:13 (EST)

> From: carnahan@possum.den.mmc.com (Rich Carnahan)
> Anybody had any luck using Transprog with Sys 6?  When I tried it (i.e.,
> launching apps from Transprog), all that would happen is the shutdown
> window coming up.

Yes. I have it working fine on my system (other than quitting from the
Finder). EasyAccess was the main culprit (or hindrance, which ever way you
look at these things. :)
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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
To: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Ppath: pro-nbs!pnet01!crash!apple.com!info-apple
Date: Mon Apr 06 92 at 14:41:41 (EST)
Ppath: pro-nbs!pnet01!crash!apple.com!info-apple
Subject: Re: Pointless first impressions

> From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
> Well since your signature mentioned Formulate GS, and I've tried the demo and
>  found it rather interesting and usable with Pointless, could you please
> tell me how one would (1) Type in some word processor (2) Open up the
> equation editor without closing the wp and (3) make and copy an equation
> from Formulate into the wp. I could see doing this if Formulate were a
> NDA or if GNO supported 2 desktop programs, but it would appear as though
> you have to edit an equation, save it, quit Formulate, open the wp, paste
> in the equation, close the wp, edit another equationetc...This is a bit
> much! Surely I'm missing something!

You wouldn't.
 
You would more LIKELY proceed along these lines...
1) Figure out what formulas are needed.
2) Create the formulas in Formulate. (each separately of course)
3) Save each formulate (in quickdraw form).
4) Enter AWGS (if using Quickdraw form) or GW III (if using SHR form) and
compose your document.
 
Note: This presupposes that you would be using the PAGE LAYOUT module of AWGS
(which can make use of Quickdraw type files). If you want to try using an
ordinary word processor then you are on the wrong track.
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From: x9999bns@oak.circa.ufl.edu (David Isaacson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: More Sys 6 probs
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:11:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.1992Apr6.170005.5377
Reply-To: X9999BNS%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

Has anyone else run into this?
  When I first installed Sys 6 I used Font/DA Installer to install GScii+ so I
could unBINscii off of a HFS disk. Everything worked fine.
  Now when I try the same thing Font/DA bombs when installing NDAs and
sometimes CDAs. I've tried it with and without alphabetize DAs on. I also tried
putting GScii in the DeskAccs folder; it shows up under the Apple menu, but 
crashes into the monitor right after showing the status box (right before
showing the open file dialog box).
  Why did it work the first time? I have no idea. I have tried unshrinking the
archives of both DAs to see if something corrupted them - nothing.

ROM1,2.25Meg,RAMFast SCSI.

David Isaacson           VAX:  Fraenhawk@maple.circa.ufl.edu
                               X9999BNS@maple.circa.ufl.edu

                         Unix: fhawk@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu
From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston J. Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 BUGS???
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:41:23 CDT
Organization: Macrocosm BBS: 913-841-9446

In article <65100@apple.Apple.COM>, dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>>5. Trying to execute a BASIC program gives me the message "To run a PRODOS
>>application, the file must reside on a PRODOS volume." It does.

<-- Desperate cries for help and and bit about "wackyness" deleted.

> In 5, is the message on the desktop or the text screen?  If it's on the
> desktop, the Finder is complaining--if it's on the text screen, the
> Finder thought everything was fine, but GS/OS thought the application
> was on a non-ProDOS (and non-AppleShare) disk.

I've gotten this error as well, I meant to report that bug, but hey, with tests
and homework and nuts to gather I get bogged down.  It is a System 6 bug.  I'm
running a ROM 03 GS with 2 Megs of memory on card.  Shift key booting doesn't
help, and I used the installer.  I get this dialogue that says something about
not being able to launch prodos 8 programs from non-ProDOS or AppleShare
volumes (still in the finder) whenever I try to launch a BASIC program from
the desktop.  P8 System, and Binary programs mapped to BASIC.System launch
fine.  Just AppleSoft has trouble.  I haven't tried using custom icons like
what I use to launch BIN files though.

Sorry I didn't post this sooner.
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From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: translating slot/drive <-> Smartport id's
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:30:19 GMT
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Apr1.021037.539@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, magras@pacific.cps.msu.edu (Mr. Jean-Claude Magras) writes:
> 
> Hello Everyone ! 
> 
> Though work on the 6600+ line program continues... I need to know how to map
> smartport id's to slot/drive numbers. Does the mli online call ($c5) with a
> drive/slot number of 0 return volume names in smartport id ascending order
> except for those devices returning 'no device connected' errors. i.e. ?
> 
>  magras@cps.msu.edu. | 517 337 2267 | 1736 Burcham Dr., E. Lansing, MI 48823

See ProDOS 8 Technical Note #21; it contains all the information that exists
and is reliable.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Technical  | The opinions expressed herein are
Support, Apple Computer, Inc.         | not those of Apple Computer, and
Personal mail only, please.  Thanks.  | shame on you for thinking otherwise.
^^^^^^^^ Technical questions are not personal. Please post them instead.
============================================================================
From: PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Sys6 Reset
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Like Alan Stein, I've also had occasions under System 6.0 when the thing
hung so badly that no possible combination of Reset and other modifiers
would work; had to turn it off.  Killing EasyAccess seemed to reduce it;
I suspect some Interrupt interaction with things like screen blankers
(I'm using both Desktop Utilities and AutoMenu).  I seem to recall
(albeit vaguely) someone (from Apple?) posting something about changes
in the interrupt handling routines used for the Reset key (it's not a
hard-wired Reset function).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick)
Subject: P8v2.0.1 and No-Slot-Clock
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 01:11:02 EDT

This question is to Matt Deatherage and/or Dave Lyons, whoever can help..

Where exactly did you move the date routine and what do I need to look
for?  My No-Slot-Clock Utilities do not recognize the new version, but
work just fine with v1.8.  I would like to change the NSC program, since
it is unlikely that SMT will release a new program.

I currently use Block Warden as my block editor.  I need to know where to
look (what location) for the new date routine so that I can get my NSC
utils to work with it.

djredick@bluemoon.rn.com

 This is from
     djredick@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: JPEG Files and other
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 02:13:23 EDT

cl229861@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (ThomasD) writes:

> 
> I've seen ALOT of these JPEG files running around here.. Anybody know of any
> support for these files on the Apple ][??? If not, then does anybody have the
> specs for it?  Also, I've had Jason Harper's Super Convert now for quite awhi
> but it wasn't until yesterday that I noticed a SPIFFY little function to view
> an approximation of the TRUE COLOR image that was loaded.  It does this by
> dithering red, green and blue intensities of the picture, but my question is,
> is there anything else that makes use of this display format?  Preferrably
> without the black line seperating the dithered lines.  Thanks.
> 
> ThomasD

The black lines are necessary, I think. It gets all those colors by 
alternating the vertical lines red-green-blue-black (which means your 
vertical resolution is 50 lines, blech) and if you didn't divide the last 
blue from the next red, the illusion ('tis) wouldn't hold up properly. That 
is, your eye would interpret whatever colors were most convenient instead of 
being forced by the grouping effect (or whatever its Gestalt name is B-).

I haven't seen that mode anywhere else...it's of limited usefulness, really, 
but kind of cool. I would have preferred 3200-color support in the program. 
Ah well, just have to wait for Prism. And Lord High Giffer.


Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"
CI$ 70253,2574          '
From: nelson@pro-miami.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: how to copyright software
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:17:37 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

I think I may have missed parts of this tread. What exactly is the
procedure for Copyrighting software. What is the proccess?

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From: v111pczf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christian T Fraboni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Memory upgrade
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     Hi. Just a quick question.  How much memory can the IIgs be upgraded to?

                                   Told you it would be quick,

                                       -Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Cute Nicknames (Was: Re: origin of "slinky" card name
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:13:13 GMT

In article <65088@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>I don't know if it was ever a code name, but it's "slinky" because bytes

In my pursuit to get a VOC for school use, Dave Ely passed along this bit
of wisdom... The VOC had been called the "Pokey" project... Well, in
wondering why out loud, he said that perhaps it was because the GS had
the nick "Gumby" and the VOC was the perfect companion... :-) Just
passing it along because there just *Never* is enough to read in CSA2!
(NOT!)
From: lhaider@pro-beagle.cts.com (Laer Haider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: BASIC.Launcher
Date: 6 Apr 92 00:04:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-beag.d561795
Organization: ProLine [pro-beagle]

Does the new ProDOS come with a new BASIC and BASIC.Launcher?  Seems I
lost my BASIC.launcher file and can't get my basic programs to run from the
Finder.  I hope to replace it with System 6.0.  Is it there?
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From: jhood@banana.ithaca.ny.us (John Hood)
Subject: Re: Wizardary's operating system
Organization: Pick a banana, any banana
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 23:29:34 GMT

In article <rg0rdINN15n@agate.berkeley.edu> phelps@palm.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Phelps) writes:
>With the relase of System 6 I was hoping that I could
>take a catalog of Wizardry--actually, The Return of Werdna
>and Heart of the Maelstrom, which aren't protected with a disk-
>based scheme.  But no luck.  They are written in Pascal (aren't
>they?), so what dialect?

Ah, memories-- I worked for Sir-Tech on the IBM PC versions of these
and helped with the Apple II versions...

We used a complete reimplementation of the Apple Pascal interpreter
and its supporting code.  We actually developed the Pascal code on an
8086 machine, running the Apple Pascal development system.  (It was
much faster there.)  The code on the distributed disks, however, was
all our own.  The disk format is the same, but it may be that System 6
is looking for identifying bytes in the bootstrap code.  Ours was
different, of course.

Apple Pascal itself will work fine with these disks; we used it to
create them.  The files themselves generally won't be much fun to look
at; they're heavily packed and coded to squeeze onto those endearing
little 140k floppies.

Oh yes!  I forgot the virtual disk system.  We created this to deal
with those 140k disks.  You'll only be able to get a directory of the
first 5-1/4" floppy, and it will seem to be about 2000 blocks in size,
and the files will seem to be garbage.  I take it back.  You won't be
able to look at that stuff at all if it's on 5-1/4" floppies.

  --jh
-- 
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jhood@albert.mannlib.cornell.edu,jhood@banana.ithaca.ny.us,jeh@crnlvax5.bitnet
By any reasonable computer's standard, I'm a virus.  So are you.
From: cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Douglas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple ///+ memory expansion.
Summary: Need info on a memory upgrade
Keywords: ///, 3, memory
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:20:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr11.182039.26994
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I am using an Apple ///+ (yes...that is 3+) with a memory expansion
that allows it to operate at 256K.  I know that there is available
ways to make the on board memory go to 512K.  Is this simply a matter
of changing chips?  If so, which chips do I need to change, and what
do they need to be?

I don't really want to sink too much money into this venture mainly because
this machine is a bit of a dinosaur (read old and extinct).  Any help
with this would be much appreciated.  Thanks.


-- 
Chuckers -- a computer operator/programmer/benthic sorter/emaciated aryan.
cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu	          |"You know I'll give you everything
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From: dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: how to copywrite software
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:55:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]

gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) writes:

>If your copyright is ever challenged, take them to court, and produce the
>sealed envelope.  Have in the envelope both electronic and hard copy of
>the information on it.

I'm not sure that would work -- You could have mailed the envelope unsealed,
then put the document in the envelope and sealed it *after* sending it
through he post office.

Perhaps you could get it notarized? Or perhaps ask the post office to hand
cancel it, stamping the date on the seal.


Doug Granzow           dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com  or  ...crash!pro-iisysops!dig
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bj687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Joseph Boehnlein)
Subject: Re: NEWS RELEASE: MDG INTRODUCES PROLINE 2.0
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:30:36 GMT


In that respect, you are correct. Proline is Usenet compatible, which, 
for now, METAL is not. It's just a matter of time, though. 

You do get what you pay for, with most software. Personally, I have gotten 
many times what I paid for METAL back already. 

I don't want to start a 'my bbs is better than your bbs' war. It's immature
and not worth pursuing. With the dwindling number of Apple II systems, every
apple II user should be happy that anyone is running an Apple specific BBS
in the first place.

My opinion is my own. It comes from being a GBBS Sysop of 7 years, trying 
ProLine, then finally setteling down with METAL. In >MY< opinion, METAL is
a much more sophisticated package than ProLine can ever hope to be. Why? 
Because, first off, BASIC is just plain slow. I don't like it, it's hard to
modify from remote, and if it crashes, your pretty much screwed.

METAL, on the other hand, is a compiled language that is easy to modify from 
remote, almost crash proof, and VERY tolerant of errors.

If no one is running a METAL system in your area, and you'd like to see what I
mean, please feel free to call me. I would be more than happy to demonstrate
some of the capabilities of it, online, for you.
-- 
--
Greg Boehnelin  - Sysop of Damage Incorporated (216)328-0374 - METAL!
Internet: bj687@freenet.cwru.edu   r0942@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Ram Disk Blues
From: blender@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:44:00 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I've been having some trouble with System 6 running off of a Ram Disk.

First of all, the Ram disk is no longer initialized automaticly. BUMMER! It
took me forever to figure out why if I copied my system disk to the RamDisk, It
wouldn't boot. ie., when the systems boots, boot blocks are no longer
automaticly written to the Ram Disk.

But that isn't the problem. Sometimes, after quitting an application, my
ram.disk gets clobbered and the systems hangs. I've tried booting prodos 8 and
cataloging the Ram disk, but It just isn't there. I have to completly reboot.
I have a 01 machine, with 2 megs installed. 1 meg is used as a ram disk. This
problem has happened with both desktop and 8-bit programs. Anyone have any
ideas?

Thanks....