From: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu ( Arun )
Subject: Re: Relevance of Satyagraha
Reply-To: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:26:41 GMT

In article <2B0044A5.19270@news.service.uci.edu>, sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy) writes:
>
>	Let me write my opinions on this and previous posting of yours. 
>
>(1). Constitution: 
>
>	Constitution is not something that was dropped from heaven. After all
>	it was also written by a group of human beings few decades back.

        I think I did not make myself clear enough when I talked about
	burning the constitution. It is perfectly okay with me as an
      	expression of opposition. I was talking about their hypocrisy.	  

        My opinion is this: Why would we want to vote for somebody who
	treats the constitution as a plaything for his politics to a 
	position which is supposed to protect the constitution. Isn't 
	like putting a cat to guard the milk? 
        
>(2). Thanithamil Nadu:
>
>	I honestly do not know who this intellectual Thamizharuvi Manian
>	is. But as I know, DK asked Dravidanadu, not Thanithamilnadu, before 
>	Independence and DMK dropped that idea in order to run for power. 

	Thamizharuvi Manian is one of the Kamaraj Congress people who 
	joined Janata when "Sthabana Congress" decided to join Congress-I.
	One of the vehement opposers of Emergency. In his book "Thi.Mu.Ka-
	Sila sandhehangal...." he just talks about facts about the history
	of DMK and its various stands on every issue and the contradictions.
	He never tried to judge anybody in this book -just facts- with 
	references to their own Newspapers like Murasoli and the books
	written by people like Mu. Ka, Annadurai and Nanjil Manoharan. 
	An excellent book - I recommend it to everybody who is interested 
	in politics - read it without prejudice.

	Coming to Thanithamilnaadu: To my knowledge, E.V.R  was previously
        in Justice Party during the British rule and criticized Indian 
	National Congress and Gandhi and his policies. Justice party 
	supported the British and said we should get our rights by 
	supporting them. When Congress decided that it would not compromise 
	to anything less than complete independence Annadurai who was in
	Justice Party raised the Union Jack flag and spoke that whatever
	happened to rest of India atleast Madras Province should be under 
	the British.

	After the Independence when the popularity of Justice Party hit
	an all-time low E.V.R started the Suyamariyathai Iyakkam. Then
	it is changed to Dravidar Kazhagam. Only this time he asked for
	"Dravidanaadu Dravidarukke". When he could not get significant
	support outside Tamilnadu the philosophy changed to Thanthaminaadu.
	When DMK seperated from DK for the much publicized reason it was 
	still its philosophy until the law was passed. DMK changed its 
	position the next meeting. Mu. Ka still talks about Thanithamilnadu
	occasionally.(Whenever DMK loses an election)

	I was just questioning their sincerity.

        (Note: Ref: The same book. I don't have it with me right now and
	 I read it about five years back. I could not recollect the exact 
         dates of events but I am pretty sure of the chronological order.)

	I don't consider ADMK any different than DMK. It is just a 
	political joke with people who are even narrow-minded than DMK
	and this is nothing but the result of supporting the oppurtunistic
	politicians.

	I don't hate E.V.R, I consider him as the only person who was 
	sincere to what he said. I also recognise the achievements he
 	and his followers. I like the results but I don't support the maens. 
	
         
>(3) Sataygraha:
>
>	Why do we have a fourth largest army in the world (may be third now,
>	thanks to the collapse of Soviet Union)?. Just to sing Bhajans:
>	"Raghupathi Rahgava Rajaram". 
>
>	My honest and humble query to die-hard Satyagrahis Arun et. el.


	Nehru thought so, until China taught us otherwise. The best way
	to avoid a war to be prepared. Wearing a helmet does not mean you
	intend to make an accident.

        You cannot preach anybody Ahimsa unless one has faith in it. 
	Neither is my intension, It was just my opinion about the strength 
	and validity of it.(You may want to read my post again.) It takes
	a lot of courage, perseverance, and faith to follow it. Not 
	everybody can do it. I don't think I can do it perfectly but I 
	would honestly try to(It starts there).
	
	I did not write this to mean I support Indian Government in every
        incident. What Srilanks has is its own problem and it should settle 
        it the way it wants to. The only thing we should have done is to
	make sure it does not turn into our problems.(Like terrorism in
	our soil).
	
        I do not support any political party. I am one of those people
	who feel dejected by our politics. But apathy will not take us
	anywhere but to more deep trouble.
	
	What I am saying is we should not be misleaded by these crooks 
	who have no interest in our future but their own well being. 
	Nobody talks about our poverty. They treat politics as a business. 
	We should demand our politicians to address our real problems and
        oust the oppurtunists who wants to exploit our differences and pave 
	way for some real leaders in the future.

	
>M. Sundaramoorthy
>sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu
>
>P.S: I am sure you would not flame me. Ahimsa is your idealogy.  
  
  	Flaming is okay as long as you would not point an AK47 to my head


	I hope this is irrelevent, but for flamers to save time and energy,
        I am neither a Brahmin nor I belong to a forward community. I have 
        no personal interest to hate DMK or DK.

        Thanks for your time.

        " Onrupattaal undu vaazhve, Nammil 
          ottrumai neengin anaivarukkum thaazhve!"

        ( United we stand, Divided we fall. )


        - Arun.