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From: alclark@RWASIC27.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (Amy L Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re:  Do antibiotics increase appetite?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:46:03 GMT

Reading Kay Klier's reply to this post where she talks about
feeding her cats "the good expensive food" reminds me of when
I was poor and in college.  The cats ate science diet (expensive
good for them food) and used Better Way cat litter (expensive
stuff-- it was the only clumping litter at the time) while I 
survived on boxes of maccaroni and cheese and cheerios eaten
straight out of the box.  I think it's great that Kay feeds
her cats the good food while she eats peanut butter.  She's
gotta really love her babies.  How are the kittens, Kay?
Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:12144 rec.gardens:7363
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Herbal repellants?
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:40:03 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1992Oct13.111433.973@telerama.pgh.pa.us> kristen@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Kristen McQuillin) writes:
>mike@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael J. Thibodeau) writes:
>> What about herbal insect repellants?
>
>Some of the traditional herbal insect repellents are tansy, wormwood,
>rosemary and pennyroyal. They do help, but are more subtle than Raid!

Can you recommend something to repel spiders?


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From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: Re: Help needed to save cat's life
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:23:41 GMT


It sounds to me like you need to dump your girlfriend and find one
that has more patience with scared, traumatized, and possibly sick
animals and less concern about cleaning up a little cat poop. Does she
want children? What does she think years of diapers will be like? I
think that the cat needs a trip to the vet to see if he/she has FUS or
another medical problem which needs attention. If you drop her in the
woods she will die a slow, painful death or be killed savagely by
another, bigger predator. If you can't handle her, at least take her
to a Humande Society where the cat might have a chance of finding
another home.
From: emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: fraidy cat
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:32:08 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<1992Oct6.175307.6676@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Reply-To: emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro)
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Distribution: 
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In article <1992Oct6.175307.6676@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>In article <BvoG7w.MxM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Paul
L
>arsen) writes:
>>Help, we have a real friady cat on our hands and have no idea what to do!
>
>Please post responses to this most interesting question!  My cat is the
>same way.  Although her initial reaction to a stranger in the house is
>utter terror and a flight to the 2nd floor to hide under a bed, she will
>after about 30 minutes peep down from the top of the stairs, and finally
>enter the room with the strangers--keeping a wide berth.  I think she was
>abused as a stray-kitten.
>

        I, too, am interested.

        We have a 'fraidy cat, but he's afraid of US!

        We have had him (Max, Maxie, MaxCat) since he was
        but a wee kit, and yet when we go to pet him (9 times
        out of 10) he wil flinch and run away.  And picking him
        up:  it's as if we tortured him from a baby, he yowls and
        struggles to get away!

        Quite distressing. Do you think it's because he gets
        beaten up by the other cat when we are not looking?

        I am actually wondering if he is not some kind of
        autistic cat, I kid you not:  he does not relate
        well and tends to get obsessesive about toys (his favorites
        he will play with and play with and pester and pester
        you to "throw/fetch/play" with...he would go on until
        he dropped)...the strange thing is he absolutley loves
        children, and when our neighbors' kids come into the 
        house he will follow them around and wrap himself around
        their legs and be nice...why isn't he nice to us?

        Elizabeth

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From: mike@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael J. Thibodeau)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Herbal repellants?
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:44:54 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

What about herbal insect repellants?
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Lick Humans?
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:29:11 GMT

Krissie Griffiths (krissie@locus.com) wrote:

: i have to tell you though, paddy is a classic b/w in personality, a coward,
: and afraid of everyone but his mom ( ;-) ) and to have him butz karl, the
: first time he met him was just to weird..........
: 
: does he know something i don't?  paddy?  paddy?

Yes, he does.  Animals are very discerning, and don't care about what you look
like, how much money you make, or what kind of a car you drive.
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From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: More strange but amusing cat behavior
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:18:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 29368@life.ai.mit.edu, marie@guppy.ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb) writes:
>That is the daytime spot.  The nighttime spot is truly unique
>in my experience--the bathroom rug. 

Maggie likes the bathroom rug at night, too.  She's not content with just
lying on it, though - she first pulls my bath towel off the towel bar (only
mine, never Bill's), then she scrunches the towel and the rug up together
so they form a nice messy pile.  Once she gets them just right, she curls
up in the middle and snoozes.  If she's feeling motherly, she'll let Mango
curl up with her.  Oh, and if it is cold, she'll burrow under the towel.

I go through a lot of towels... 

-Ann

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From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: My new baby!
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:27:24 GMT

Well, our system was down Friday so I couldn't post them but,
Thursday evening, I brought the new kitten home.  She's so
cute it's hard to believe.  Her name is *much* bigger than
she is:  Blue's Baby Beatrice.  But, it's BB for every day
use.  (If enough people ask, I'll post the story behind the
name.)

She's 8 weeks today and so teeny but cute as a button and
eating up a storm with the natural consequences of that
activity :-).  The happy part there is that she's perfect about
using the box.  With one in the house who isn't so good, this
is a pleasure.

She's still isolated :-( from Sarah and Charlie but we've had
a couple of controlled meetings so far.  Sarah and Charlie are
afraid of her!  It's the funniest thing to see.  Sarah's doing
a bit of hissing and growling but as agressive as she is, running
away is far better than trying to fight.  It looks like Charlie
will come around first and Sarah will be a bit slower.  Maybe
her next acupuncture treatment can trigger some maternal feelings
that will help her accept the kitten.  But, I'm very optimistic
that it will all work out.

BB is so darling that a friend who was visiting over the weekend
had to go to Char and Jeff's and adopt one of her (BB's) brothers.
I have to again thank Jeff and Char for taking such good care of
Blue and all her babies.  They really did a wonderful thing by
taking Blue in and taking care of her.  Thanks to both of you.

Sorry this got so long.  More reports as things develop.

Judith and Charlie and Sarah and BB
From: mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why do cats......
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:33:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct5.194758.20444@acd4.acd.com>, jrc@IEDV4.acd.com ( Janis Clark
 ) writes:
>This is along the same line as the postings recently about why
>cats like to sit on paper.  Why do cats have to use a litter box
>the moment you are done cleaning it?  I have two 4 month old kittens
>(whom I am convinced are monkeys in kitten's clothing) that watch
>anxiously as I scoop the litter box, or replace the litter. As soon
>as I finish, put the rim back on, and step back, they immediately
>get into the box to inspect and use it! I have had several cats over
>the years, and they have all done this.
>
>Janis, Jem, and Carson
>--
>       "Two roads diverged in the wood,
>         and I,
>        I took the one less travelled by,
>         and that has made all the difference."     - Robert Frost
>
My cats do the same thing.  In fact, on Monday I had just dumped the old
litter and was getting reaching for the new litter, rather slowly because i'm
on crutches, when my little Merlin jumped in the box and peed right on the
plastic liner.  He then proceeded to jump out and splash my legs at the same
time.  What fun!!!  I've been having a problem with my other cat peeing on the
rug so maybe this is Merlin's way of showing mommy what a good boy he is by
using the box.  Who's to say why they do what they do.

Michelle
and Pookie and Merlin
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From: edotto@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Otto)
Subject: Re: Phone hating cat
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:07:49 GMT

lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson) writes:

>Your cat doesn't hate the phone, he is just answering it for you. ;<)

I have one that attempts to make outgoing calls...

One bill had a $24 dollar call to France - direct dialed...

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From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Why do cats......
Keywords: cats, litter
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:11:38 GMT
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Try a litter box a size or two larger than the one you now
have. Use more litter. Clean more often. Cats are hard to
please, and they can be very cruel...
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From: dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Douglas Bank)
Subject: Re: HOW LONG CAN A 9-WK. KITTEN BE ALONE?
Organization: Motorola., Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:52:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats

In article <92280.224343U58100@uicvm.uic.edu>, U58100@uicvm.uic.edu wrote:
> 
> I *thought* that eight weeks old was a sufficient age that a healthy kitten
> could be left alone, but Hendrix is pretty rambunctious and unfortunately
> i work almost 12 hours a day sometimes, though i try to come home for lunch
> to play and feed him, which usually works out fairly well, and we play
> for about an hour at night.  Then someone who is *apparently* knowledgable
> about cats said that they have to be 6 months old before they're moved
> and that *if* i am going to be away for many hours of the day that it is
> actually *kinder* to the cat to lock it in the bathroom with plenty of
> toys, food, et.al.  Theoretically he's supposed to feel more "in control"
> of his domain or territory...  Intuitively this sounds a little strange to
> me, but then, I'm just a paltry human.  Any comments?

We've got a nine week old cat locked in the bathroom right now.  He doesn't
really seem to mind.  In the past it seems that this works for about 3-4
weeks.  At that time they start to completely rip out the carpeting trying
to dig under the door.  I think this is good because 1) the other cats
won't kill it  2) It won't keep us up all night  3) It won't learn any bad
habits while we aren't in the house i.e., when it DOES do something bad, we
will be there to say no.  It won't get any mixed signals.  At 12 weeks I
think it is OK to leave the kitten out all the time.  Our other cats will
have gotten used to it and the little one will have learned some manners.

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From: ljz57640@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Laura0003 )
Subject: Introducing a new cat
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:29:52 GMT

We currently have one neutered male domestic (American) shorthair, and we
are planning on bringing home a new kitten in a few days.  The question is,
is it possible for these two cats to get along? (Our other cat is 5 years
old)  Is there anything that we can do to ensure that they get along, or
do we really just have to wait and see what happens?  We would very much
like to keep this new kitten, but we don't want our other cat to feel     
neglected.  Any suggestions?
Thanks!

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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: fraidy cat
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:37:33 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct7.182647.25543@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.193645.7352@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> 
>>they'd *never* come around strangers.  Well, about 3 am, I was thoroughly
>>explored and purred at...  The vet and her husband tell me that those cats
>>have been much more willing to try new people now that they found the first
>>stranger knew where cats need to be scratched...
> 
> If you have some trade secrets on where cats need to be scratched,
> let'em out of the bag...

Oh, just the usual places.  Angle of the jaw, chin, behind the ears, down the
spine, base of the tail, various "armpits", kitty bellies.  Anything that
is presented for scratching... ;-)

Kay Klier

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From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Cat in Tree, 3 Days
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:31:43 GMT

Tom Zing writes:

>A cat is up in this tree and has been there 3 days.
>I tryed putting a long branch up the tree so it might be easier for it to
>get down but it will no come down.  It is about 30 feet up.  Most sy wait
>and it will come down eventually.  What do you think I should do ?
>I am thinking of calling a tree trimmer to go  and get it or should I just
>wait ?

  Three days is a rather long time for a cat to be stuck up a tree.  It must be
getting rather hungry by now, don't you think?  I'd say you'd better find a way
of getting the cat down, and quickly.  It sounds like the cat has gotten itself
in a position which it is too afraid to climb down from.

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From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat's perception
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:00:43 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

I think that perhaps the up and down tracking is learned.  (was this mentioned
in the original post - I don't remember for sure.)  My adult cats love to leap
and jump after their cat dancer, although I often get their attention by dragging
it along the floor.  When I tried the same thing with the new kitten, though, she
didn't seem to understand what was happening when I lifted it off the floor. She
just wanted to run around and chase it.  As she's gotten older, she seems to be
learning to jump after it.  BTW, she is a good jumper, so she's learning to 
chase aerial objects, not learning to jump.

Sandy
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From: greg.grainger@rose.com (greg grainger)
Subject: Re: Cat in Tree, 3 Da
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:19:43 GMT
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Date Entered: 10-12-92 22:16
On Oct. 12, Tom Zing wrote:

T(>A cat is up in this tree and has been there 3 days.
T(>I tryed putting a long branch up the tree so it might be easier for it to
T(>get down but it will no come down.  It is about 30 feet up.  Most sy wait
T(>and it will come down eventually.  What do you think I should do ?
T(>I am thinking of calling a tree trimmer to go  and get it or should I just
T(>wait ?

Go and get that cat! Do not wait! Some cats become so frightened by the
climb back down that they WILL NOT come down on their own.

I mean, really! THREE DAYS up a tree and some idiot says 'it'll come down
when it wants to!' Does that person think that cats ENJOY starving in
dangerous places?!?

The poor thing is probably so tired and hungry and thirsty that it CAN'T
climb back down.

Any teen-agers in your neighbourhood tha would enjoy climbing a tree with
adult sanction?

Good luck - let us know what happens.

                                                Cheers,
                                                Greg.

Greg Grainger in Toronto, Ontario.
9:22:58 pm on Mon 10-12-1992.
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From: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Subject: Re: sad realities of cats running free
Reply-To: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Organization: "Group	47"
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 20:58:49 GMT

Sadly, "Grey" lost to an Auto last night.  We believe "Black", tells the new
kitties to go play in the road, so he can be an only.  it goes like this...

Hey! New cat!  See how they don't run you over if you lie down in the driveway,,
well the road is just like that... only more fun!  And another young cat falls
prey to his diabolical lies...

Well I guess we'll wait for the next stray to adopt us.

The things our "Black" will do to be an only...

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From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: friend wants a kitty
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:32:14 GMT

I am posting this for a friend. He is going through a divorce and is lonely. He
wants a kitty buddy to come home to and keep him company.
Call him at (515) 243-0204  ask for George if you can help. No E-mail please.

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From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: Re: not quite cruel
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:38:33 GMT

In article <29365@life.ai.mit.edu> marie@guppy.ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb)  
writes:
> Yes, very young children are often not cruel, just ignorant.  I 
> count myself--I don't have any memory of this, but my mother
> told me that I once put a kitten in a trash can with the lid on, "so 
> it wouldn't run away."  Mercifully, she heard its cries, and let
> it go before the poor thing suffocated.
> 
> I've always sworn to myself since I heard this story that any 
> progeny of mine would be thoroughly educated very early on about
> how to treat animals.
> 
> Marie

I don't want to make this thread disgusting or anything but I can't help  
myself, I must reply. My husband was brought up in a "cat-hating" family.  
They were always picking on cats and torturing them. The only story he has  
dared tell me was when they tried to "fly" a cat. They put a kite on the  
little guy and he was dragged through this field with stickers and stuff.  
the cat did live through it. Now, I can happily say, he is reformed.  
Before we got married, our biggest problem was how he teased and tormented  
my brand new kitty. I told him to love me was to love my cat, because my  
cat was very much a part of me. I also told him he would go to hell for  
all the times he was cruel to cats and if he was nice to Boo, he just  
might be forgiven. Well, as cats usually are so charming, Boo finally won  
him over and we finally got married. Now he loves Boo as much as me and  
although you might never get him to admit it, he couldn't live without her  
either. And he wasn't even disowned by his brothers and dad. As it turns  
out, his brothers also married cat lovers sooo...

Just my $.02.

lynda peterson
lyndap@novell.com
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