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From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Subject: Re: ---< Fistful o' Datas >--- Synopis & *S*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:13:18 GMT

harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
:)jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley) writes:

:)>mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
:)>:)I'd reckon there be spoilers here,....sir


:)>:)the cheesy ending brought it down....'Riding off into the sunset' was 
:)>:)definitely not needed.

:)>Ack... I forgot about that when writing my review. I also now remember
:)>hearing the western-style guitar in the background of the closing music.
:)>That I could have dealt with, but you're right about the sunset bit.

:)Oh COME ON!  All westerns end with a ride off into the sunset.  I was
:)rolling on the floor after that last scene.

My point exactly. I don't think it was meant as humorous...

:)Generally, I found the episode entertaining if not particularly
:)sci-fi.  Then again, it was a nice change from the transporter mishap
:)trend. ;)

I liked it myself. I rated it a 7. I just didn't care for five seconds of
it.  :)

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From: eaustin@ll.mit.edu (Eric J. Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Rawdon's musings on virginity
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:48:16 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Originator: eaustin@ll.mit.edu (Eric J. Austin)


In article <rawdon.721285018@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
|> I was wondering whether Keiko, Ro and Guinan had become virgins again (well,
|> at least in Keiko's case it would have been "again" :-)  Since Picard's
|> hair returned, it doesn't seem far-fetched.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
|> University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI
|> 
An interesting question, not so much for the question itself but for
what it says about the asker. Picard's hair status is an easily observable
thing. Exactly what physically observable thing would you expect to indicate
the virginity of Ro and Guinan. No, I am not asking anyone for a lecture
on anatomy. I know perfectly well what you are thinking of, but you are
very mistaken if you think this is a true indicator of virginity. Why not
ask the same question about Picard, the question is about as meaningful
about him as about them.

Keiko is, of course, a different case. There are clear physical changes
that occur after a woman has given birth. Forensic medicine uses these
indicators to determine whether a woman had any children by looking at
her skeleton. I imagine that the 12 year old Keiko would not have had 
these indicators.
-- 
 Eric J. Austin                       EMAIL: eaustin@ll.mit.edu
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Promos for: THE QUALITY OF LIFE (#235) + notes
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:17:07 GMT


brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
 ><is expected to uplink on January 9th, along with Chain of Command Part-2.  
 ><Stay tuned!  Star Trek will be back in force! :-)

 >Correction here...
 >"Chain of Command Part I" will be uplinked 12/26/92.

Great!  That will make for a nice little xmas present!

 >There will only be five repeats.

I'm sure not complaining.  :->

 >Now back to our regularly scheduled drivel.  :-)
What else?
From: hdnea@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (David Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Inquiry"
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:23:58 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Oct26.043642.18623@intacc.uucp> zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:
>In article <1992Oct21.104051.1@titan.kingston.ac.uk> cs_d613@titan.kingston.ac.uk writes:
>>
>>By the way, are you all aware of the fact that referring to ST:TOS could be
>>misconstrued as a derogatory term in the UK?
>> 
>
>What do you think TOS stands for?  Over here it stands for The Original
>
>ferenc

The Old Show.


As oppossed to the New Show, of course :-)



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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Grade Report: "True Q"
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:54:15 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <92310.121053IO20084@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO20084@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>One question -- If you think TNG is so uninspired, why do you watch it and
>take the trouble to grade the episodes and all that.

If I did that (and I *have* done that), then every time I said something
about it here, the response would be, "How can you criticize the show when
you haven't even seen the latest season, which was much better than all the
earlier ones??"  This is what happened before.

>							I mean, they show
>TOS in syndication on just about every station in the world, so why not
>just watch that if you think it's so much better?

I do watch it.  I'll probably the essentials from both series on videotape
whenever I get around to getting a VCR.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"It is a fool's prerogative to utter truths that no one else will speak."
				- Dream, "A Midsummer Night's Dream"
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: Fistful of Datas
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:43:22 GMT

In <1992Nov11.075847.4546@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:


>  I loved it!  And now, 30 lines from our sponsors.













[many lines removed, ^L inserted]
[...]

>  I only had two problems (and one's not really a problem, and neither has much
>  to do with the episode itself):  (1) I was saddened that Troi smoked.  Does
>  Marina?  

I was saddened by Troi's accent.  Is that how they speak in West BetaZoi?

(2) My first reaction when Worf shot the gun out of "Data's" hand
>  was "Impossible!  Worf's not that good a shot." ;)

Worf needs to start carrying a gun instead of a phaser!  If he'd had a pistol
last episode, both Ferengis would have been unarmed.  Worf did well this 
episode -- though I think he should avoid a showdown with Terence Hill.

And how about Worf's engineering skills?  Made a personal shield out of a
telegraph in less than an hour and a half!  If he'd had one of those personal
shields last episode...

>  Finally, a real bright spot in season six!

Best one I've seen this season.  It wasn't a great western, but it wasn't bad.
I could have done without them constantly referring to the "Ancient West",
however.
-- 
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  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen)
Subject: Re: Rascals -- Fountain of Youth!
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:55:55 GMT

In article <1drpf6INN46h@aludra.usc.edu> efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduardo Franqui Jr.) writes:
>I think the human race has finally found the fountain of youth.  If your old,
>just take a trip through the transporter and become young again.  Hell, it
>can be used for covert missions.  Imagine, sneak into someplace as a kid, get
>the informaton and come back.  They'll turn you back into an adult in no time
>and trouble at all.  Think of the possibilities, no one has to die anymore!!
>

I'm glad someone else noticed this.  The federation now has the ability
to make everyone young.  You never have to die of old age, just pop someone
into the transporter and take out that RNA or whatever.  Take out the 
correct ammount and you are a young adult.  Ugh. - Chuck


-- 
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reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo
"I'm an engineer, not a dictionary!" - Me
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From: RUSSKALL@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: is it military
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:07:06 GMT

     Star Fleet as far as we know is what holds together the known universe.
It is often remarked that they have kept the peace and maintained stability
after a very turbulent time in earth history.  I would speculate that it is
necessary for Star Fleet to wear more than one hat so to speak.  However,
it must be added that in a period of restoration, it is often the case that
regiemes will soft pedal thier authoritarian profile so as not to rile the
citizenry.  The nature of life in the federation, at least on earth and in
most of what I have seen from the movies and series, is strongly reminiscent
of one of my soviet studies professor's view of the former Soviet Union.  His
analysis is that the soviet state is not unlike Plato's republic.  Star Fleet
is an utopian view where anarchy is suppressed. (When have we heard any rock
'n' roll on board the enterprise?)  Granted the federation is a loose knit
bunch of planets, the presence of the military hierarchy as organizational unit
is quite clear and constitutes one of the three braches of Plato's military,
intellectual, and political triumvirant.  I would greatly appreciate any ideas
on this subject.  May you live long and procreate.
                                                           Russ
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Promos for: THE QUALITY OF LIFE (#235) + notes
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:59:46 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Nov8.122944.20910@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
<
<Promos for the next new ST:TNG episode: "The Quality of Life" (#235) 
<were released today.  The actual program will air starting on Saturday,
<November 14th.  Following this will be a lovely batch of *six* holiday
<reruns.  The next new episode is the two-part "Chain of Command", out on
<January 2nd.  This is the lead-in for DEEP SPACE NINE, as Captain Picard 
<infiltrates the Cardassians... eventually finding himself at everyone's 
<soon to be favorite space station. DSN episode #1 (working title "Emissary")
<is expected to uplink on January 9th, along with Chain of Command Part-2.  
<Stay tuned!  Star Trek will be back in force! :-)

Correction here...

"Chain of Command Part I" will be uplinked 12/26/92.  There will only be
five repeats.

This has been confirmed in a message from Paramount Booking Department.
"Chain of Command Part II" will be uplinked on 1/2/93.

Now back to our regularly scheduled drivel.  :-)
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rascals -- Fountain of Youth!
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:17:50 GMT
Organization: Cleveland State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Charles Jacob Cohen (charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu) wrote:
: In article <1drpf6INN46h@aludra.usc.edu> efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduardo Franqui Jr.) writes:
: >I think the human race has finally found the fountain of youth.  If your old,
: >just take a trip through the transporter and become young again.  Hell, it
: >can be used for covert missions.  Imagine, sneak into someplace as a kid, get
: >the informaton and come back.  They'll turn you back into an adult in no time
: >and trouble at all.  Think of the possibilities, no one has to die anymore!!
: >
: 
: I'm glad someone else noticed this.  The federation now has the ability
: to make everyone young.  You never have to die of old age, just pop someone
: into the transporter and take out that RNA or whatever.  Take out the 
: correct ammount and you are a young adult.  Ugh. - Chuck
: 
About 1978 or so, a book entitled _The Price of the Phoenix_ was published by 
two women, Culbreath and someone else, sorry I cannot recall.

However, the book which was followed by the sequel _The Fate of the Phoenix-,
was really good, and the characters were right on, extraordinarily on.

Anyway, transporter technology was key in the novels, which I recommend
for reading by those who love an excellent ST:TOS story,

Joe
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From: brownd@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (David H Brown)
Subject: Re: New TNG Action Figures are now in stores
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:19:00 GMT

	Indeed, these little gems (?) are difficult to obtain... I've had
best luck going in early mornings; often by evening they're out of stock
again. Most stores seem to have only a couple of pegs with the figures; if
you find any, a clerk might be willing to check "in the back" for you. Look
for a couple of empty holes near the Terminator II figures :-)

In my opinion, the figures are more fun than the original Trek figures from
my (first?) childhood. They're smaller and don't have real clothes (just
paint on plastic), but there's a wider variety of accessories and a few nice
touches like three joints in the arms for better poses. Geordi's V.I.S.O.R.
comes off, Data has a couple of access panels, and the Borg comes with a
bunch of little pieces of plastic tubing which can be attached variously.
[Hmm... maybe you'll have to see that for yourself.] Also, unlike the
original Trek dolls, these are not all molded the same way: Worf has a very
wide stance, the Ferengi's arms a outstretched, etc.

Of course, the packaging is amusing, mixing accurate Trek factoids with
amusing "errors"-- Riker comes with a "Directional U.V. Source Used on Away
Missions to create visible light and heat." (Maybe U.V. does that in the 24th
century :-) ... maybe U.V. means "Unexpectedly Visible"?)

All in all, they're well worth five bucks a piece... I do wish they would add
a Crusher and Guinan, though. And why, oh why is Riker's uniform all torn up?

--
brownd@stolaf.edu
From: norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James McInerney Junior)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Young Picard == Picard's Nephew in "Family"?
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:56:59 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <721385970.0@ttlg.ttlg.UUCP> Tom.Hall@f1.n342.z1.ttlg.UUCP (Tom Hall) writes:
>Several of us watching "Rascals" were of the opinion that the actor
>who played the young Picard was the same kid who played Renee,
>Picard's nephew, in "Family" a couple of seasons ago....
>
>Can anyone confirm this?
>



	Uhhhhhhhhh...
	Yes...
	
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From: zzekka@unislc.uucp (Zeke Zecca)
Subject: Re: Young Picard == Picard's Nephew in "Family"?
Reply-To: zzekka@unislc.UUCP (Zeke Zecca,B2C10,4827)
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:54:29 GMT

In article <721385970.0@ttlg.ttlg.UUCP> Tom.Hall@f1.n342.z1.ttlg.UUCP (Tom Hall) writes:
>Several of us watching "Rascals" were of the opinion that the actor
>who played the young Picard was the same kid who played Renee,
>Picard's nephew, in "Family" a couple of seasons ago....
>
>Can anyone confirm this?
YES. No.   Zekers!
From: CH8305A@auvm.american.edu (Charles Hessenius)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rascals: Have a heart?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:29:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: auvm.92315.142934CH8305A
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center


     I think I can buy that Picard's artifcial heart is biological, and
therefore some of the problems that would exist if it were mechanical are   ,
more problematic, but I can't help wondering one thing: what if onw of the
women were pregnant?  In this sense, the fetus inside her IS a part of her,
but foreign to her original being, just like Picard's heart, though biological,
is foreign to HIS being.  If Picard's RNA (or whatever it was) contains the
message that a heart should be constructed ON TOP of his existing artificial
heart, then there is a problem as well.  Unlike the fetus, which is there but
not a part of the women's own biological message, Picard's heart would be
part of the "construct Picard" message.  The pregnant woman would lose her
fetus "growing up", but there is no way for Picard's RNA (or whatever) to
know that his original heart was torn out in a barfight.

     I don't know.  It was a rather silly story any way you look at
it.
From: mathew@unixg.ubc.ca (Mathew B Englander)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: "Rascals" !SPOILERS!
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:24:46 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

SPOILERS AHEAD!
>
>
>

>
SPOILERS!









It seemed to me that young Guinan's voice did not belong to the girl
who played young Guinan. The synchronization was really bad in a few
places.

In the epilogue to the film A League of Their Own, they had older
actors playing the main characters, and some of the voices had to
be dubbed. They probably did the same here.
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From: ecameron@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu ()
Subject: Rascals...did anyone else like it?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:18:55 GMT
Organization: uidaho
Reply-To: ecameron@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu ()

Yes!  I especially liked the part where young Picard is talking to Deanna and

says, I can't take myself seriously like this!  (Or something similar).  

I had to laugh...

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: STVII: Kill Kirk !
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:56:28 EST

In article <1992Nov12.155541.17756@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Denes.House@launchpad.unc.edu (Denes House) writes:
 
>
>	Yes! Yes! Yes!
>I wanted Kirk to die a hero in Trek 6, but he did not. (Iloved Trek 6
>nonetheless). Kill him well, you do a service to his legend.
>--
 
   Yeah, then do we really want to have STVIII: The Search for Kirk?
     (OK, this was an obvious joke; it was a dirty job but someone had
to do it.)
 
 
 
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   "INSANITY IS A VIRTUALLY IMPREGNABLE GAMBIT...
BUT YOU HAVE TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK EARLY IN THE GAME..."
 
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Subject: Re: ** SPOILERS ** Rascals -- the new all-time trek low
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <83305@ut-emx.uucp>, wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester) wr.>In article <BxByHJ.Mtn@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> pjohnson@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Johnson) writes:
>]In article <lfipqtINN6jk@e Sodos) writes:
>]>Spoilers on Rascals follow...
> 
>Wait, wouldn't they have to have a sample taken from the subject at the age
>he/she wanted to change to? I mean, becoming a child again could be cumbersome
>in addition to being fun. After all, you would have to wait several years 
>until you aged enough to be able to continue your career. Somebody made the
>claim that you could use this transporter trick to become 25 again, but I 
>don't agree because of what I had in my first sentence. Of course, it could 
>become a trend in the future. Someone at age 25 saves his/her pattern and
>waits 50 yrs before getting young again.
> 
>]>

	But remember:  According to the episode with Scotty, the pattern
will decay. 


	*****The rest of this stuff is just extra- but my keyboard
won't seem to allow me to delete for some odd reason****
	Sorry for wasting BANDWIDTH

				JIm



>]>MS
>]
>]	There WAS an episode in the first season of Next Gen in which an
>]admiral drank a potion to make him young again--lucky for the present
>]bunch of writers that that guy died at the end, otherwise we'd have him
>]back in a future episode to try out the transporter-RVNA procedure.
>]-- 
> 
>The admiral died because he od'd on the stuff by taking the whole dosage
>(and his wife's) all at once. You were supposed to take the potion in small
>doses over a period of years. The potion was very rare and the only reason
>why the admiral got it was because he had done something for the people who
>made it and they reluctantly agreed. There were other problems with it but
>I can't remember right now.
> 
>-- 
>Patrick Chester            |----------------------------------------------------
>wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |"The earth is too fragile a basket in which to keep
>Politically Incorrect      |  all your eggs." Robert A. Heinlein
>Future Lunar Colonist      |"The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us
>#^%$!! Militarist          |  are going to the stars." Anonymous
>(Of the Sun Tzu mentality) |----------------------------------------------------
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From: bmaddox@cs.umr.edu (Brian Maddox)
Subject: "Ships of Star Fleet"
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:54:07 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Keywords: Ships of Star Fleet, Books
Originator: bmaddox@mcs213j.cs.umr.edu

   Does anyone know if "Ships of Star Fleet" is still being published or if it
has been updated?  I found it referenced in the FAQL for R.A.S.T. but haven't
been able to find it in any bookstores.   Thanks.
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Poor, poor, pitiful Worf
Organization: Cleveland State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:33:52 GMT


I could not help but note that _Rascals_ should go down as the demise of
Worf, former Klingon Warrior, who cannot hit the broad side of a barn with
his phaser.

I would have thought that losing to Guinan would have spurred Worf to new
heights, practice becoming a major, central part of his life, but alas,
that has apparently not been the case.

I don't know if anyone noticed it, but Alexander was more the warrior.
How ironic, isn't it?

Anyway, I hope Data goes easy on Worf next week, since Worf needs a break.

A Romulan Sympathizer
 
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