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From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Thanks for help on FIDO Nodelist Locale
Date: 30 Aug 92 08:01:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: lub001.1992Aug29.150136.1493
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <MebfIhG00iUzM74V9J@andrew.cmu.edu>, dsa3+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Reeve Sward) writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.bbs.misc: 27-Aug-92 Re: Thanks for help on
> FIDO.. by lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu 
>>>>Thanks to those who helped me locate the FIDONET Nodelist and those who did 
>>>>reply after-the-fact.  I was successful in finding where to FTP the
> nodelist.
>>> 
>>> Is the nodelist you found in raw format (i.e. parsable by xlaxnode)?
>> 
>>Yes, I played with the nodelist (nodelist.227) and used the following to
>>parse it without error:
>> 
>>OPARSE100  Will produce Version 6 or & List
>>XLAXNODE   My copy will only produce Version 6 List
>>PARSELST   My copy will only produce Version 6 List
> 
> Ok, now where did you FTP it from?  The only place I've seen (several
> months ago) was (I think) pointed to in 'Snooze but the list there was
> _not_ parseable.

I also used Parselst 1.30 to do it.  I posted an earlier message about where
the thing was FTP'able from earlier.  It is in this newsgroup.  
Without going back over all that, it is FTP'able from M2XENIX.PSG.COM
Hope this helps ya out...
N5UYH - Grady at the Ham Connection Server (409)833-1795
From: golub@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Golub)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: FAQ for BBS's?
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:01:12 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Is there an FAQ available on Internet for information *about* BBS's?
Specifically , I'm interested in starting one for the medical school to run
courses on, and I'd like to know what the main issues are, as well as what
software can cross platforms (DOS and Mac).

Thanks in advance!

-Rob
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: thweatt@rtsg.mot.com (John A. Thweatt)
Subject: Multi-User Database BBS - Questions?
Summary: ?
Keywords: ?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: 'world'
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:50:25 GMT

I have a question regarding setting up a Multi-User Database BBS.  I would like to have
a system which could allow a number of users, (say 10) to call one number and access
a computer database system.  Currently, I understand that I can get a hunt group phone
service from the phone company, which will allow the users to call one number to access
this BBS.  I was also informed that I will need to get one modem for every telephone line.
Is there any modem available that will handle more than one phone line (reducing cost)?
The maximum baud rate that I plan on supporting will be 2400, is there anyway to determine
how many computers will be needed to support my application?  If I need more than one
computer to service these users, what is the best way to network these computers together.
I will be setting up a database system which should allow users to search on key items of
interest to them.  What is a good software package to support multi-users allowing easy
search capabilities and how will this look when someone calls through a modem?  Your help
is needed since I have just started to learn about setting up a system like this.  Comments
can be mailed to: "thweatt@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com" or reply to this post.

Thank you,
John Thweatt
From: s3007048@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS standards Comittee and Graphics
Date: 26 Aug 1992 23:35:22 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I've written a Graphics Interchange protocol, and would be interested in
hearing from BBS/comms-progs authors who would like to implement it.
I will be posting it here ASAP...

Regards,

	Mike.
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From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: comp.bbs.misc
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:32:08 +1700
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

A little more info for you folks starting up FIDONET nodes and having some
problems with it.  Someone recently asked me where they might find a parser
for the nodelist that does V7 lists.  Try OPARS100.ZIP or it might be in
LZH format and can be FTP'ed from NIC.FUNET.FI login anonymous.  I think
it is located in /pub/bbs/opus.  It is in one of the opus directories, anyways.
Tell it to compile a V7 nodelist in your OPARS.CFG control file.  If you are
running under BINKLEYTERM, then you will also need to change the BINKLEY.CFG
file to tell it to use a V7 Nodelist if you are using a new version of Binkley.
Versions 2.40 and earlier will be using a V6 or NEWNODELIST in the config file.
I have been trying to find a version of Parselist which will compile V7
Nodelists, but have not contacted the author of the program yet.  If I connect
with him, I will relay information to USENET.  Till then... happy BBSing folks!

P.S.  I am setting up a BBSUTIL file section and will have it available to all
sysops which to download them from the bbs shortly.  I also have ordered a 14.4
Modem to support those fast data compressed sessions allowing you to transfer
files at 57.6KB by early next week.  The System will be down Monday for some
maintenance and resume at 2400 Baud Monday evening about 7PM.  Then will be
down a short while to setup the 14.4k when it arrives.

-N5UYH (GRADY) @ The HAM Connection S.E. Texas (409)833-1795
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: bbs standards
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:28:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Aug28.132806.8699
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

>Perhaps you'd care to consider some real dial-up text/file services (like CIS
>or Delphi) rather than the "multi-line" bbs's most persons have in mind (dinky
>little six or twelve line systems, as compared to hundreds of lines).. any
>guesses as to the system hardware/software they use?  I'd lay you some very
>good odds they're not running on a stinkin' PC with MS-DOS!  (And that would
>be highly unfair, at least insofar as Delphi is concerned, as I already know
>the HW/SW configuration of their host systems).

Well, I know that CIS runs on something *really* odd (a heavily modified
version of one of the old DEC OSes, as I recall)

>Who cares?  What does selection of OS have to do with any discussion of
>so-called "BBS standards?"  Just what aspects of bbs operation/implementation
>would we need to have standardized?  What would be the benefits and drawbacks
>to accepting those standards?  What hidden agendas are at work?  Is there a
>conspiracy?  Can it possibly get more interesting?

Well, it *can* make a difference in the standards if you aren't going to
restrict the standards to something that requires a "large" system. After
all, there are *still* a lot of C64s out there! And they aren't even 
ASCII!

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CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
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(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)
Subject: Re: BBS standards Comittee and Graphics
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:17:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

s3007048@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au writes:

>I've written a Graphics Interchange protocol, and would be interested in
>hearing from BBS/comms-progs authors who would like to implement it.
>I will be posting it here ASAP...

You guys should take a look at the new AlphaWindow standard from the Display
Industry Association.  It is a very detailed standard for multi-session,
mouse controlled, windowing environments on serial terminals.  A perfect
match for on-line communication systems.  It is supported by most of
the major terminal manufacturers, IO card makers and software companies.

For more information, subscribe to the DIA AlphaWindow mailing list by
sending a message to: nutec!listserv@infoserv.com with the line:

subscribe ALPHAWIN <Your Name>

in the body of the message.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: robert@wixer.cactus.org (Robert Cope)
Subject: Re: WWIV Question
Keywords: WWIV Usenet WWIVnet
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 00:36:23 GMT

In article <19979@plains.NoDak.edu> froebe@plains.NoDak.edu (Drugon Draconius) writes:
>The latest WWIV BBS version is 4.21a.  It supports multi-networking.  That
>means you can have Usenet, WWIVnet, and about 20 others at the same time.

Are you sure about the Usenet thing?  I thought that WWIV's multi-networking
required that it was a WWIVnet compatible network like WWIVlink.  You can get
gated Usenet news on WWIVnet, though..

robert
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Discrimination against small countries, or just my own ignorance?
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:27:09 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Sep1.074232.28071@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
> In article <1992Aug30.210816.19452@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
> >Sun 30-Aug-92: Obtained a current list of Finnish BBSes and their
> >phone numbers.  It is available as
> 
> If not, _*then*_ I must ask is UseNet disciminating against
> information from smaller countries, or is this a case xenophobia
> from a single North American individual.  Although not so frequent
> any more, unfortunately I still occasionally run into these
> attitudes in running an FTP archive site outside the States. 
> 
> The BBS list I refer to is perfectly usable from outside of Finland. 

It's called comp.bbs.misc (not comp.bbs.usa.misc) and it is a world-wide
newsgroup.
 
Post your finnish list all you like. I will see if I can find a New Zealand
list somewhere and post that, too.

Anyone have a South African BBS list? I'd like to call a few.

Steve

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From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: DOCs. Please email to me
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:02:57 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <1992Aug23.001230.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay) writes:
>Could someone EMAIL me a copy of the Maximus DOCs and also, EMAIL me a copy 
>of the Renegade DOCs? I would like to be able to compare both of them and
>figure out each strengths and weaknesses.

I am not sure if there are Renegade docs yet. The author puts out a 
WHATDONE file for each version that tells what he has fixed and added
since the first version, but I have not seen any full docs yet. Since
this program is still in beta testing, I would expect that he is waiting
until he releases an actual version to write the docs.


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Colorado Springs, CO 80916                            BBS: 719-596-1649 
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.misc:695 alt.bbs:5450
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: Looking for shareware/commercial BBS software.
From: john@actrix.gen.nz (John Vorstermans)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:30:37 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

Hi all.

I am trying to find a good high-quality Bulletin Boards System (BBS) to
replace the current software that we are using on our UNIX box.  Does
anyone know of, or able to give me information about what they consider to be
good software, both from a user perspective as well as maintainence from 
a sysop point of view.

Both shareware or commercial software would be considered.

We currently have available to our userbase, Usenet, Clarinet and a selection
of fidonet newsgroups. These are available through several newsreaders 
which may be selected by the users.  Namely TRN, RN and TASS.  We use
ELM as our mailer front end.

The Unix system is:

Interactive Unix SYS V 3.2 3.0.  Running on a Zenith 386/33.
We also have BSD386 on another system and are considering moving our
entire operations over to it.

Any software considered must support:

1. At least TRN (Threaded type newsreader) or allow us to make it available
   to users via an external function.  User must be able to save news
   articles and later download them via modem.

2. Have an excellant user interface for e-mail, allowing messages to be
   saved to a file or folders and accessed again later or downloaded.  Also
   users must be able to upload messages via a modem to be e-mailed out.

3. Support user accounting.  By this I mean that we need some sort of
   method of keeping track of users that have subscribed to the services
   we offer and that will automatically change there access level once
   that subscription period has expired. This would need to include some
   sort of on-line questionnaire that users can fill in to gain access to
   the subscription services we have available.

4. Private user groups for different groups who wish to set up there own
   private conferences and a means for a group member to be able to act
   as a sysop for this particular group.  i.e. to add users when necessay.

5. A comprehensive multi-level files area.

6. Source-code would be necessary so that we can build in extra local
   requirements.

If you know of anything that might fit this discription I would appreciate
hearing from you.  If I receive enough feedback I will be happy to
summarize my findings to this newsgroup.

--
john@actrix.gen.nz
From: pierre@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS via Packet Radio
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:48:53 GMT

In article <1829fiINNr33@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:
> I am just a beginner at BBS access, the various networks, etc.
> And I may not even be posting this on the right Newsgroup.
> 
> Anyway, I am wondering....I have several friends a ways out in the
> 
> But it is still too expensive for them....long distance fees, etc.
> 
> Has there been developed yet....or in process....a bbs system run
> out of say....a rural homestead with the normal computer setup but
> plugged into a ham radio system which I believe is specifically
> called "Packet Radio"....so that bbs members can converse just
> as we do but via radio waves instead of phone lines.
> 
> Obviously such a system would be for public free access networks
> such as cleveland free net or Internet, etc.  not for those which
> require a subscription and time charge such as Compuserve, etc.
> 
> Any information on this would be appreciated.
> -- 
>             Mike Romano     Univ. Calif. Berkeley
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	There is definitely a packet radio bbs method.  I have a posting that
Daniel Drucker posted to my BBS on how it works, and the basic info.  If you
would like to read more, stay tuned, I will post it to the this group real
soon.

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From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Shameless plug for a BBS
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:55:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: lub001.1992Aug29.145516.1492
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <1992Aug27.184327.20452@news.nd.edu>, agri@pa.itd.com (Howard) writes:
> Hi!  This is a shameless plug for AfterFive, a BBS and Chat at af.itd.com 9999
> The numbers are 128.160.2.249 9999  OK, end of the short plug.  Now let me
> tell you all about the place.
> 
> Our hours are from 5 p.m. until 8 a.m. CST time.  PLEASE don't attempt to log
> in during the day.  Also note that you log in like you would for a MUD. If you
> get a login prompt then you forgot to add the 9999 part at the end of your 
> telnet command.  An example of how to connect using a UNIX machine is
> "telnet af.itd.com 9999"    Note that you don't actually type the ""
> For a VMS machine you would   "telnet af.itd.com /port=9999"  again not typing
> out the " "
> 

This seems like a lot of fun...  Tell me, please:  IS at also after 5:00 on
weekends, too?  It might be nice to be able to access it on weekends but  
before 5:00 PM CDT.
From: "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: bbs standards
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:58:35 EST
Reply-To: "brian miller" <brian.miller@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

-> The BBS Market? Market research? Show me were the money is and I'll
-> show you were all the greedy bastards who don't care if they ruin
-> something that once was a bright spot in computing. Something which
-> once contained

Ah, a true believer.

-> I'll give you both a clue: The money isn't why I run a BBS.

Good for you.
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Thanks for help on FIDO Nodelist Locale
Date: 27 Aug 1992 07:13:33 GMT
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <EeaXQbe00Uh_81w2lJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, dsa3+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Reeve Sward) writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.bbs.misc: 24-Aug-92 Thanks for help on FIDO
> Nod.. by lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu 
>>Thanks to those who helped me locate the FIDONET Nodelist and those who did 
>>reply after-the-fact.  I was successful in finding where to FTP the nodelist.
> 
> Is the nodelist you found in raw format (i.e. parsable by xlaxnode)?

Yes, I played with the nodelist (nodelist.227) and used the following to
parse it without error:

OPARSE100  Will produce Version 6 or & List
XLAXNODE   My copy will only produce Version 6 List
PARSELST   My copy will only produce Version 6 List

> 
>>Now, I have another simple question - Has anyone ever heard of Al's CABIN BBS?
>>There are supposed to be many, many Door files available.  If anyone in that
>>area (local to that BBS) would echo-mail to me, I would try to see if we can
>>find a system to make them available via FTP.
> 
> Straight from the nodelist -
> 
> Al's Cabin BBS
> Sysop: Alan Davenport
> Phone: 1-717-686-3037
> Fido#: 1:13/75.0 (hmmm... not in a net)
> Where: Milford, PA
> Modem: HST

Yea...  I will netmail him soon.  I just got the Mailer back up and running.
My past Node (1:19/49) would also indicate I wasn't in a net.  I am requesting
to get those guys to re-instate this node and continue as Independent.

Grady @ The HAM Connection (409)833-1795
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Latest version of VBBS?
From: mgjones@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Mike 'Felix' Jones)
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:19:12 -0500
Organization: Miami Computer Users Group

Is 5.42 the latest version of VirtualBBS?

If not, what's the latest version, and where can I get it?
(preferrably via FTP)

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From: arumble@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Anthony Rumble)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS standards Comittee and Graphics
Date: 30 Aug 92 11:58:54 GMT
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia

rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:

>s3007048@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au writes:

>>I've written a Graphics Interchange protocol, and would be interested in
>>hearing from BBS/comms-progs authors who would like to implement it.
>>I will be posting it here ASAP...

>You guys should take a look at the new AlphaWindow standard from the Display
>Industry Association.  It is a very detailed standard for multi-session,
>mouse controlled, windowing environments on serial terminals.  A perfect
>match for on-line communication systems.  It is supported by most of
>the major terminal manufacturers, IO card makers and software companies.

>For more information, subscribe to the DIA AlphaWindow mailing list by
>sending a message to: nutec!listserv@infoserv.com with the line:

>subscribe ALPHAWIN <Your Name>

>in the body of the message.

The big question is, how much overhead is in this system??

Ive seen one other system, called "SKYPIX" that does Graphics
and sound on Amiga systems, but it was loosely bassed on the ANSI
codes, which are wieldy, and VERY VERY slow.. The system was
in my opinion too slow..

Unfortuanetly when things like Standards committes, and orginazitional
groups get involved, the project blows out into some huge unwieldy
monster that does everything, but with a huge overhead.. (Just look
at X-Windows for a prime example)......

The System I am developing is * F A S T *.. Speed has been my
primary concern.. Its even quite fast at 1200.. and surprising at 300!!


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Anthony Rumble
aka SmilieZ
"Anything is possible.. If there is enuf money in it"