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From: bear@harlqn.co.uk (Andy Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: AppleShare query
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:01:36 GMT
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England


Hi!

*I'm looking after a lab of 52 SE's, running 6.0.5, and a few other
*machines running 7.0. We're just about to get a quadra as a server to
*replace two SE/30's, and I'd like to move over to AppleShare 3 at the
*same time. 

You don't need to install AppleShare on a Quadra as you can only
install & run System 7. File sharing is a permanent feature of System
7.

AppleShare version 2 client side running under System 6 is compatible
with System 7 file sharing - you'll only need client side in this
case. If in doubt run the installer & click customise, client side
(file user) is the item labelled "AppleShare (workstation software)".
I believe it comes as a standard part if you install 6.0.7 or 6.0.8.

I believe you should only need to install AppleShare 3 if you want a
System 6 macintosh to be the file server, so you should be saving
yourself some money here.

*However, I've heard there can be problems running mixed system 6 & 7
*with AppleShare 3. Any truth in this rumour? Anything else I should

I think there's always a lot of unfounded scaremongering being waved
about the net. Best ask Apple first before picking up third hand
rumours.

*know? How much bigger than AppleShare 2 is the AppleShare 3 driver.

I don't think you really need AppleShare 3 client side, unless you're
looking for the benefits that version 3 brings.

NB we've been running an AppleShare v2 file server and have been
accessing with a mixed network of AppleShare v2 clients & System 7
file sharing clients. We have also AppleShare v2 clients accessing
System 7 file sharing servers. This setup has been running for over a
year now and we've had no problems!

A good piece of integrated software, Apple! <<applause>>

*Please respond by e-mail to keep bandwidth down, I'll forward
*information to anyone else who's interested.
*
*Thanks in advance,
*
*paul

Cheers,

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From: Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Latest Tuneup hoses Personal File Sharing?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:47:38 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation

In article <m16547.702316671@mwunix>, m16547@mwunix.mitre.org (Arthur Gorski) writes:
> 
> I just installed the latest TuneUp on a IIsi and an SE/30, both running 7.0.1 
> and the original TuneUp.  I got a cryptic dialog, something like "File Sharing
> could not be enabled."  Trying to start personal file sharing via the Sharing
> Setup control panel repeated the dialog, and file sharing stayed off.
> 
> I eventually replaced only the File Sharing Extension with the 7.0.1 version, 
> and everything came back to normal.
> 
> What gives?  Anyone else see this?  Is there a better fix?  Thanks in advance.

I think that the problem was that you didn't turn off personal file sharing
before you installed Tuneup 1.1.  You have to do that, then restart the
computer to get the 1.1 Fileshare to work (for that matter, you had to do that
with Tuneup 1.0 also).
From: day@william.vancouver.wsu.edu (Steve Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: cute diskdrive icons
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:48:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr15.044855.8169
Organization: Washington State University, Vancouver Campus

In article <1992Apr13.235226.3003@bio.vu.nl> ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido) writes:
>I' ve noticed that when using some apps. or DA's there are two icons
>for the internal and external drive. I like those icons because they
>show which disk is in the internal/external drive.
>Is there a way to have the finder automatically use those icons when
>you insert a disk?
>I've been looking for them but I can't find those icons in the system
>or he finder. Where are they stored?
>I know that you can give each disk a different icon but they keep
>that icon whether you put the disk in the int. or the ext. drive.
>
If you are using System 6, then you can use Resedit to edit the LAYO resource
in the Finder.  Look for the "Use Phys Icon" and set it to true ("1").
As for where the icons are stored, I think that they are kept in the actual
driver code.

I haven't experimented with system 7 so I can't help you there :(


-- 

Steve Day
N7VHY
From: collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Large number of files on one hard disk
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:58:35 GMT
Organization: Research Institute of Scripps Clinic; La Jolla, CA
number: 5500 files in one volume! I seem to remember that this is

Thanks,


Thomas            COLLET@SCRIPPS.EDU
From: maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MountImage can be your enemy...?!? (Re: Please insert this disk...)
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:34:02 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

b_blumberg@macsch.com (Bryan J. Blumberg) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.113853.17787@fwi.uva.nl> maarten@fwi.uva.nl
>(Maarten Carels) wrote:
>>werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) writes:
>>>	Which leads me to conclude that MountImage (I am using the
>>>	version 1.2b1 and know of no later one) is best kept out
>>I had numerous problems (crashes etc) with 1.2b1. Went back to 1.1b3,

>     I guess Werner and I agree.  I've had no end of trouble
>using MountImage 1.2b1 and know of no later one.

>     I am impressed that you have an older version that is
>more stable, but unfortunately, I don't have it and all of the
>usual places only have the new version that causes problems.
Well, look on the developer CDs. The Febrari one still has 1.1b3.
If there is interest, I can post it...

--maarten
-- 
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		Computer Science Department
		University of Amsterdam
email:		maarten@fwi.uva.nl
From: slater@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joseph C. Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Tuneup 1.1.1 & missing folders...fix or cludge?
Keywords: folder missing tuneup system 7.0.1
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:53:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr12.145338.18218
Organization: UB

Alen Shapiro wrote about problems using the installer with the System 7 tune-up
1.1.1.  Other people have complained about the mac installer asking for more
than one disk at a time.  I had the same problem installing MSWord 5.0.
I solved the problem by holding the shift key while booting to turn off any
extensions which might not like the installer then running the installer.
Since I have been doing this, I have had no problems with the installers
for Tune-up or MS Word.  I have been guessing that Norton Utilities File
Saver likes to write some info to each disk before it's unmounted, and 
somehow the installer prevents this.  Not being a programmer, I'll leave
this to people who know something to decide.  What's important to me is
I can hold down the shift key and avoid the problem.  If you forget to do this
or still end up being asked for two disks at the same time, press command-
period before inserting ANY disk.  This will get rid of one of the requests
and you can insert the one it's still asking for.

Joe Slater
slater@mother.eng.buffalo.edu
From: kelly@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HELP! and HELP!
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:31:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England


I'm posting this on behalf of a friend, so could you please reply by email to
his address shown at the bottom of the posting and not to me.

_____________________________

Problem No.1: In the spate of three days, my Mac has suddenly started bombing
and "unexpectedly quitting" from applications, e.g. 

- without me actually doing anything (i.e. mousing/keying), all applications
quit, and I'm told it's a Type 3 error. (Mac still operational afterwards 
though)

- Mac bombs: System error in "Word"  Bad F-Line instruction

- Mac bombs: System error in "Finder" Type-41

Sometimes on quitting, all desktop icons (e.g. hard disk, trashcan) disappear, 
and reappear.  

I've recently installed Word 5.0 (about which I've heard mixed reports), and am
running System 7.0 on a IIsi, with 19" SuperMac greyscale.  Disinfectant 2.6
finds nothing. (DAs etc running are Applicon, Apollo 0.6b1, Open-Wide 2.4,
DFaultD 2.22, SuperClock 3.9, Depth Gauge 2.01B, After Dark 2.0v.) 
______________________________

Prob. No.2: printing from the above machine to a LaserWriter Plus, I get
erratic (perhaps every ten jobs) printing errors.  PrintMonitor tells me the
LaserWriter extension file has generated a Postscript error: 

		Error: limitcheck   OffendingCommand: eexec
and that:
		The document's ok, but can't be printed.
or (less frequently):
		The document's damaged, and can't be printed.

-- when it's clearly not, cos I've managed since...

Other machines running 6.0.5-7 simply appear to send the job ok, but it
disappears into the ether...  Rebooting the printer seems to clear the error 
temporarily, but it returns.  It seems to be local to the printer, since 
a Personal LaserWriter seemed to work fine (we're using AppleTalk by the way).  
Any offers from you Postscript techies out there?

Many thanks,

Simon Shum
_____________
Human-Computer Interaction Group
Department of Psychology
University of York
York YO1 5DD, UK
sjs2@uk.ac.york
From: mdc@spt.entity.com (Marty Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neil, would you please comment on this?
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:48:51 GMT
Reply-To: mdc@spt.UUCP (Marty Connor)
Organization: Hacks 'R' Us, Cambridge, MA

bill coderre:
>I know it sounds stupid and crazy, but it keeps lots of people
>employed, and until someone changes the laws, that's the way it's
>going to be.

Well, I guess there's no need to fight anymore!  God what a relief, I
just keep sending these messages, and if I had just asked, you could
have told me that it was hopeless.  Thanks!

>bill coderre
>there is a reason for the madness

Justifying or attempting to rationalize irrational behavior or
ridiculous laws seems a sad pursuit.

But perhaps the ends justify the means, and QuickTime[tm] will fix the
stupid and crazy behaviors of a huge multi-national corporation.

NOT.

Marty

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: wc7044@writer.yorku.ca (Joel Atkin)
Subject: 7.0 -> 7.0.1
Originator: wc7044@grant
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:18:12 GMT

	Is there any benefit to upgrading from system 7.0 to 7.0.1 or
is 7.0.1 just a compatability fix for the quadras?  Just wondering if
I should bother.

Joel
From: jokipalt@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Samuli Jokipaltio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: QuickTime compression and Photoshop
Keywords: QuickTime, JPEG, PICT
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:22:11 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

I have started to experiment with JPEG PICT compression that QuickTime
offers. Unfortunately some applications do not import compressed PICTs
correctly. Especially Photoshop 2.0 converted my 150 dpi compressed
PICTs to 72 dpi when I tried to open them while maintaining the
dimensions. PageMaker was able to import and print them fine, TeachText
displays them (at 72 dpi), but if I cannot get them back to Photoshop
without loosing information, I can't use QuickTime JPEG to archieve
images.
 
OK, you can always open them with PICTCompressor and save them as
regular PICT. But its a hassle. BTW, when do other applications
(Photoshop??) start using QuickTime compression for saving PICT-files?
Or is there a Plug-In already?
 
Thanks for comments!
 
Samuli Jokipaltio, Univ of Helsinki, Finland
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MAC Trivia
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:23:46 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

manuel@space.ualberta.ca (John R. Manuel) writes:

>I think that the model names come from the marketing department and have  
>little to do with the machine itself. Proof? Well, around the time I bought  
>my first Mac, a new SE, I noticed a quite a few noncomputer products with  
>'SE' as part of the model name. I've forgotten most of them, but I do  
>remember there being a couple of car models that fit that description.

    There are still a numbher of cars that use the SE designation, but
in the automobile industry SE usually stands for Sport Edition. I doubt
that was the meaning Apple had in mind when they named the Mac SE.

--
-Hades  (Brian V. Hughes)   | Common Taxpayer Q&A: Q. If I use the 1040 how
 hades@Coos.Dartmouth.Edu   | do I indicate my preference for the Elvis stamp?
 Mac Database Developer     | A. You write THIN ELVIS or FAT ELVIS in the box
 Dartmouth Medical School   | "Spouse's Social Security #." -Dave Barry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Apple's worst current piece of software
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
	<TRSNYDER.92Apr5225536@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:45:05 GMT

 Bob> == Bob Snyder <trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu> 

>>>>> In article <4APR199218550147@ochre.mgh.harvard.edu>,
>>>>> burglin@ochre.mgh.harvard.edu (Thomas Burglin) writes:

Thomas> Doesn't the the system 7 tools disk with that contains the HD
Thomas> utilities have a complete system 7 on it? I haven't tried it, but
Thomas> it sure looks that way, so that you can run the HD utilties from
Thomas> floppy in case your HD dies...

 Bob> Nope.  It's System 6, last I checked.

That's the DSDD disk. the FDHD 7.X disktools is indeed a minimal 7.X
system.

--Helen

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: johnsd2@jec308.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: QuickTime Startup Movie summary
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Information Technology Services, Rennselaer Polytechnic Institute.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:02:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.210231.29524@muddcs.claremont.edu>, smanelis@sugaku.claremont.edu (Scott Manelis) writes:
|> In article <xzxt6+l@rpi.edu> johnsd2@jec328.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)  
|> writes:
|>
|> [I write that there's moovies in them thar aliases!]
|> 
|> If you are using version 2.x of ResEdit it will automatically open the file  
|> connected to the alias unless you check the "use alias" box in the open file  
|> dialog box.  You probably _were_ looking at the original file and this is why  
|> you saw all of those resources.

I was doing just this. Somebody mentioned it, I tried again (This time
doing it right), and foudn that (a) ResEdit could not resolve my
Startup Movie as an alias (funny, this) (b) when it opened the alias
itself, there were movie resources (c) when I made a new alias of hte
same movie, it behaved normally (like an alias) and it would not work
as a startup movie.

The real mystery is why the Fidner things my startup movie is an alias.
-- 
			- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0
From: mcginnis-john@CS.YALE.EDU (John McGinnis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Bug in System 7 File Sharing?
Keywords: file sharing appleshare shared volumes
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:50:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr7.135011.9046
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158


I would be willing to bet that the problem is not directly a result of the file
sharing.  I would guess that the System 7 machine is running one of the
following:  MacTools Mirror 1.0, Norton Undelete 1.0, SUM Shield, or Unerase.
The old versions of these utilities all cause the Mac to hang if you throw out
something while file sharing is on, whether you throw it out locally or over
the network.  If you do have one of these, try removing it and seeing if it
works.

I currently run System 7.0.1 w/tuneup, and have run just plain 7, and have had
no problem connecting to my Mac via file sharing from machines running 6.0.3,
6.0.4, 6.0.5, 6.0.7, and 6.0.7J (as well as, of course, 7).  Of course, this
was only after I got my update to MacTools...

Good Luck!

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From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 enhancements I'd like to see
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: cron jobs
Organization: University of Delaware/Department of Mechanical Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:02:00 GMT

jens@seas.gwu.edu (Jens Johansen) writes:

>>It would be nice to see--perhaps included in AppleScript--some way of
>>executing commands at a specific time or time interval unattended, similar
>>to cron commands on Suns.  Does anybody know if this sort of thing is
>>already possible and I just missed it?  Will Frontier do it?

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Chris Johnson was
working on a Mac implementation of Unix cron that uses AppleEvents.  
Version 1.0d7 is still available on emx.utexas.edu [128.83.1.33] 
in /pub/gatekeeper;  it needs beta testers, and enough fans to 
(hopefully) convince Chris to continue the project.

-- Bill (johnston@me.udel.edu)
From: churley@warren.med.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: file sharing and 7.0.1
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:29:08 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School

In article <618@hsdndev.UUCP> churley@warren.med.harvard.edu writes:
>A co-worker recently installed system 7.0.1 and now her file sharing isn't
>working.  What happened?  I haven't read this newsgroup in a while so my
>apologies if this has been posted before.  Please mail me an answer on how to
>fix this.
>
>churley@warren.med.harvard.edu 
>


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott Allen Gruby)
Subject: Re: SpeedBeep dead with new Disenfecant
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 20:07:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.154102.2456@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
>In article <1992Apr1.122432.45@sleepy.bmd.trw.com>, 
>auerbach@sleepy.bmd.trw.com writes:
>> I'm having a problem with SpeedBeep since I started using Disenfectant 2.7.  
>[...]
>
>SpeedBeep died when version 2.6 of Disinfectant came out. I
>believe the author of SpeedBeep has been in contact with John
>Norstad (author of Disinfectant) about this, and there is nothing
>that can be done about it, other than not using Disinfectant.
>
>-- 
>See ya

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having with the two programs,
but I am running Speed Beep 2.0.6 (The latest version) and Disinfectant 2.7.1
(init) and have not experienced any problems. Even when I run the Disinfectant
program, nothing out of the ordinary happens. Maybe there is a conflict
with another init or program.
From: kempkec@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Christopher Kempke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Two RAM questions
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:29:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Apr14.012939.18952
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <73843@netnews.upenn.edu> forbes@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Andrew H. Forbes) writes:
>In article <73841@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) writes:
>>In article <12APR92141712@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
>>> 1) Do RAM disks have to be created strictly from physical RAM, or is it
>>> possible to create them from virtual memory?  If the latter is the case,
>>> how badly does performance suffer in comparsion?
>>Isn't that kind of like mixing Loctite and Liquid Wrench?
>Or putting a humidifier and dehumidifier in the same room and letting
>them fight it out?
>;-)

And what happens if you put your virtual memory "swap" file in a RAM disk??>
>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SpeedBeep dead with new Disenfecant
From: stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:55:30 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr5.073825.19743@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, tgh3_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Gerald Harrnacker) writes:
> In <1992Apr5.154102.2456@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Apr1.122432.45@sleepy.bmd.trw.com>, 
>>auerbach@sleepy.bmd.trw.com writes:
>>> I'm having a problem with SpeedBeep since I started using Disenfectant 2.7.  
>>[...]
> 
>>SpeedBeep died when version 2.6 of Disinfectant came out. I
>>believe the author of SpeedBeep has been in contact with John
>>Norstad (author of Disinfectant) about this, and there is nothing
>>that can be done about it, other than not using Disinfectant.
> 
> Wrong!!! A new version of SpeedBeep (2.6) is available at sumex-aim.
> With this version of SpeedBeep the problem dissappears.
> I have been using both with no problems whatsoever.

Hooray! He must have figured out a way of fixing it then, 'cause
what I stated above was fairly much a direct quote from some
months back when SpeedBeep first died. Must get a copy and try
it...

-- 
See ya
                                Nigel.
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From: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu (Leo D. Geoffrion)
Subject: Re: Background printing
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:45:37 GMT


I have a different twist on this problem.  I upgraded to system 7 many
months ago, and have had no problem with background printing since
then.

About three weeks ago, I upgraded my Mac from 5 MB to 8 MB.  Ever
since then, the Mac complains that I don't have sufficient memory for
background printing and even offers the helpful suggestion that I
might want to close a few windows.  No other applications are
affected, and a check of the finder shows that I have 5 MB of free
memory!

I tried increasing the memory allocated to PrintMonitor, but that
seems to have no impact.

Any clues as to why increasing my memory should cause this problem?

Background info:
    Running Mac IIcx with Sys 7.0 with Tune-up 1.1.1
    Virtual memory and 32-bit addressing are disabled
    Have ethernet card (Cabletron) and CD-ROM player
    Am running File sharing.
    

-- 
Leo Geoffrion, Skidmore College Computer Services, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
EMAIL: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu   VOICE: (518) 584-5000 Ext. 2628

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