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From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR: Of Akane, idol-worship, and unusual rela
Date: 26 Dec 92 09:56:29 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <2B3A2448.8622@ics.uci.edu> rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.233706.3626@nic.csu.net> ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg) writes:
>>In article <BzqL7M.Ir3@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
>>>In article <Dec.22.14.40.51.1992.9455@romulus.rutgers.edu>, thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica) writes:
>
>
>A couple of points in both directions.
>
>1) I tend to agree with Martin-san.  The relationship does kind of looks that
>way.
 I guess that depends on your perspective on what defines the two versions.
I tried to comment that I though it was just a Hero Worship thing. 
>  Plus, Martin-san is providing a female perspective (I think there just
>some things guys really don't know about and how women view other women is one
>of them).  
 I agree. I was trying to base my argument on plot consistancy. 

>Also, my wife had a similar reaction when we saw "Unexpected
>Situation" (James, I think this is the OAV you were thinking of).  She thought
>Akane's fascination with Madoka was "unusual" and, in that OAV, it was only a
>small example.  
 Nope I this was another OAV.. I thikn it was the fourth OAV 
( I need to start keeping scripts handy :-()

>BTW, she also felt the same way with B-ko's fascination for
>C-ko in Project A-ko.  A-ko's motives seemed normal but B-ko's determination
>and the way she expressed it ... ?
 I would say see 2) .. Remember though; (ABC)-ko were in nursery school when
this started out .. I would say that it would be straining things  alot to
say that B-ko was doing it because she was a lesbian ..

>2) However, since my wife is an anthropologist, the obvious question came up,
>"Is this a Japanese thing?"  Hey, men in Europe will hug as part of normal
see hitoshi's follow up ...

I would say that this question would not matter if it weren't for the fact 
if it were an honest attempt to present lesbian woman that it would be
extrememely off the mark and stereotypical .. which we should be concerned
about .. but then again it could just be something set up for the comedic 
value alone, but there is a fine line being comedy/parody and
stereotyping/slurring ..

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Jim Ramberg [e-mail-->fastest reply]       (quote is from BGC3: Asu e Touchdown)
** And protect us,always                  Soo itsudemo watashitachi o mamotte **
** until we overcome and break down the walls    Kabe o Break down koeru made **
** until we touch down and seize our dreams    Yume o touch down tsukamu made **
From: rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Subject: Re: scripts at ftp was Re: Gundam 0803 Stardust Memory Scripts, where?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Reply-To: rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:37:09 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <2B3791F2.18617@ics.uci.edu> rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang) writes:
>Look for soon a whole slew of timed scripts to show up at
>ftp.ics.uci.edu.  I'll also put up a couple of hacks.  One translates
>most of the scripts to the TurboTitle format, the other ramps and
>shifts TurboTitle scripts.  Look for them under
>/pub/anime/scripts/titling/.

Done.

The scripts are in /pub/anime/scripts/titling/timed/.  The hacks are
in /pub/anime/scripts/titling/hacks/.  However, out of respect for the
commercial subtitling companies out there (i.e.  AnimEigo) I pulled
scripts of stuff already (or soon to be) available thru retail in
subtitled form.  However, I didn't do the same for the dubbed stuff.
;-)

So, if you've got a subbing Amiga and don't like the versions of
Windaria, 3x3 Eyes, or Silent Mobius you've seen.  Come on down and
take a look around.

P.S. If anyone has the first half of the timed script for
Sol Bianca II from atbmac1.larc.nasa.gov, email me or drop me a copy
in the /pub/anime/incoming at ftp.ics.uci.edu.  FTP problems kept me
from getting that file.
					enjoy,
                                        Roger P. Ang (rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu)
Irvine? Where's Irvine?                 Grad student at the
In the heart of the Orange Curtain.     Dept. of Information & Computer Sci.
Oh no! The poor fool.                   Univ. of California, Irvine.  USA
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (1st post)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:26:59 GMT
Keywords: first post

In article <734@oscar.UUCP>, loku@oscar.UUCP (lyndon oku) writes:
> 
[Re: AnimEigo BGC LDs]
> Also, I'm eagerly anticipating all of your LD releases
> (hopefully, this background hiss controversy can be resolved quickly).

Good news, I just got BGC LD #2.  Prognosis:  no hiss, other than what
already was there from the original source.

>     1)  Where can I get a "Priss and the Replicants World Tour" t-shirt?

Ditto!!

>     2)  Has anyone seen (or heard of) the "1001 (2001?) Nights" anime?

I have it.  I'm afraid I must admit I'm not impressed (the manga was *much*
better)...

>     4)  Does anyone remember why someone (was it PUMA?) used to call
> Nadia the "Evil Series" a few years ago.

That's Ryan Gavigan.  I'll let him explain...
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From: xyzzy@imagen.com (David McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Buy/sale/trade Anime
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:49:28 GMT
Organization: IMAGEN

I was wondering if this was the place to buy/sell/trade Anime, or if
this group was just reserved for chatter?  I am interested in getting a 
tape or two, but I can't force myself to plunk down $40 for a 2-hour tape.
If anybody knows a better way to break into the loop, please E-mail me.
Thanks.
-- 
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..I'm not nearly as think as confused you am.
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: B.N.J.A.F.C.
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 15:14:31 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <92364.103823IADHRH@ASUACAD.BITNET> IADHRH@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
 >  
 > I just came into the possession of a Books Nippan flyer that describes
 > their Books Nippan Japanese Animation Fan Club.
 >  
 > For someone who plans to purchase videos distributed by them (US Renditions:
 > Gunbuster, Macross II, Guyver, Orguss, etc) it sounds like a good deal.
 > The $12 membership fee is quickly compensated with the purchase of just
 > three tapes at the member price.
 >  
 > Any current members out there who would like to comment on BNJAFC and help
 > out an anime newby ?

Yes, DON'T!!!! I paid my membership fee at AnimeCon last year. For this
I received a small pile of photocopied lists of stuff for sale SIX
MONTHS after I paid. That also came with a note saying that my
"membership number" would follow soon after. IT NEVER ARRIVED. I have
heard similar stories from other people.

(And I'm pretty sure nothing got lost in the mail. In over 2 years of
dealing with people in the US via snail mail, never once has a single
item gotten lost.) :(

The savings do not compensate you for the heartaches of delays and
other problems.

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From: tdinh@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Anime Addict)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Streamline ROBOTECH tapes finally make it out
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:16:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <724948686snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>
>In article <Dec.18.11.19.56.1992.19544@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu writes:
> > (E. Kontei) writes:
> >  
> > > BTW, aren't these tapes supposed to be $19.95?  If so, how come
> > > they were priced $24.95 at my local store?
>
>So, what are the subtitles like???? (desperately wanting to know, coz
>I'll otherwise [if normal Macek quality] buy the original LD set of the
>episodes which is just being re-released)

No-Can-Do Michael. I think Conty is referring to the OTHER release
by Macek. It's what I saw at my local comic store also.

					Thien

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And the #1 Thing We Would Love to See:
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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: Anime ratings in Video Movie Guide
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:10:31 GMT

In article <105818@bu.edu> shimkevi@acs.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>Looking at the latest issue of the Video Movie Guide, I've noticed that
>they now include a lot of anime. The ratings, however, were a little strange:
>
>Dangaio ***1/2 (what!?)
	Try more like *1/2

>Gunbuster **
	Com'n guys!  one more star for Freud-chan.. <H>

>Madox 01 *** (oh, well)
	Christ!!  This one doesn't even deserve to be released on LD!

>Riding Bean **** (is it really THAT good?)
	You're right..  "Apocalypse Now!" it is not..

>Vampire Princes Miyu ** 
	I thought the visual direction alone merits it at least 3..

>
>Makes you wonder whether they actually watch the movies that they review :-)

	They probably just read the back of the cassette boxes..


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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: DP: IS "Matters To Me" lyrics
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 04:23:04 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <Dec.31.21.07.05.1992.21310@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu writes:
 > thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica) writes:
 > > Steve Pearl posted the lyrix to "Matters To Me" from the Dirty Pair
 > > movie known as Project Eden, but he got a line wrong, didn't mark the
 > > repeating verses, and didn't translate the credits.  Here are the
 > > correct English lyrics.
 >  
 > Ouch!!!

This is grounds for divorce! :)

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Ayukawa or Madoka? (**some spoilers**)?
Date: 26 Dec 92 06:52:50 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


   Actually, from the way the KOR movie ended, I'm not entirely sure
that Kyosuke and Madoka eventually got together.  The scenes in the
present seemed to be in B&W for a reason, as if to suggest that their
high school days were the good times, and now that they're "adults"
they can no longer capture that innocence.  After the events of the
KOR movie, it seems likely that Madoka and Kyosuke might have stayed
together for a little while, and then broken up and gone their
separate ways, understanding that their romance was nothing but a high
school crush
 
   So a much more painful-to-watch sequel would have Kyosuke and
Madoka coming to the conclusion that they really don't love each other
as much as thought they did, and then both would experience the same
heartbreak Hikaru did in the original film.
 
  -RJ

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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: You know you watched too much when ....
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:01:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung) says:

>
>	You know you've been watching too many Cantonese dubbed anime when the
>phone rings and you answer it with "Wai?" :)
>
>	


	You know you've been watching too much anime when:

	Seeing tentacles gives you Wandering Kid flashbacks :)


-Jei

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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: Anime Expo GoH #4
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 04:02:40 GMT

In article <1h34fnINN8lb@agate.berkeley.edu> mtats@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mike Tatsugawa) writes:
>Haruhiko Mikimoto, famed character designer for Macross, Gunbuster, 
>Macross II and Eve from Megazone 23 has just confirmed for Anime Expo '93.
>
>Mike

	YES!!!  Mikimoto!!   

	Now all I need is to save up $3000 for the ExPO!  (Fat chance..:(


	I'm sorry Mike, I haven't been keeping up with all the news..  who
	were the other 3 guests of honor:?

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From: chet@whitebase.ukp.com (Chet Jasinski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Net.Party Announcement
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 02:34:57 EST
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

>       My co-author Corinthian and I [if you haven't read Otaku Rising,
> it's at wpi.wpi.edu] will be attending ARISIA in January.  If any
> of you otaku-kun and otaku-chan will also be attending, get in touch,
> and we'll see about orgainizing something.

   If I-Con XII should decide to throw a party at Arisia I should be there 
representing ChibiCon and passing out lots of info.  I haven't been to an 
Arisia before, but Lorraine Savage had good things to say about it at 
AC'91. 

      ---Chet
          Coordinator of ChibiCon--The East Coast Anime Conference
          Chairman of the Atlantic Anime Alliance
          Compiler of the National ANIME BBS WATCH

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From: chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu)
Subject: Re: Anime model kits
Summary: Markups
Originator: chiu@alumni
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:16:59 GMT

>>In article <1992Dec22.031453.26725@netcom.com> genef@netcom.com (Gene Fornario) writes:

>>In general, *ALOT* of middle-man's service charge... Injection jobs typically
>>ranges from $8 to $40, Garage jobs typically ranges from $30 to $800 (latter
>>quote depends largely on from whom you're buying from... like a certain store
>>in San Francisco China Town, who is best remain anonymous, and best avoided)

>>>Gene-- genef@netcom.com

>That explains a few things...As a matter of fact my friend had talked about
>being in some shop in San Francisco where he saw a model kit of a dinosaur
>go for somewhere around $200.  

Kaiyodo Kits... actually, their pricing isn't too bad... (Kaiyodo is by far
one of the cheapest kits around, relatively speaking)

>Now you do make a distinction between injection-molded and garage kits. 
>What exactly is a garage kit?  Why are they that expensive? 

In general, injection kits are like what any other plastic models you can buy
off the shelf; Tamiya, Fujimi, DML, etc. Injection kits are produced in
quantity so although overhead is high, the cost is spread across several 
hundred thousand kits, making them cheap.

Garage kits on the other hand, are typically produced in limited quantity,
and production methods are quite labor intensive (thus they with come the price
to boot too) They are usually made out of polyurethene resin or soft vinyl
with greater detailing than injection kits so they are quite popular with
a certain segment of model building population...

>How much of a mark up from buying the kit in Japan?  One store owner blamed
>our import laws...I can only guess that shipping and commisions add to the
>cost.

That's mostly BS; if the store is doing direct importing from the manufacturer
it is already getting volume discount. Even AFTER importation tax and shipping
(by sea) it is still no where near what  are generally been charaged for these
kits. My suspecion is that it has more to do with the OPERATIONAL COST overall,
rather than just the kits. Most stores that carries stuff like this generally
don't sell much other stuff, and it is difficult to "make-it" depending solely
on the sales knowing that the market itself is limited.

If you can get someone in Japan to pick up the stuff for you, you're looking
at at least 30%-60% saving right there. However sources in Japan doesn't
exactly grow on trees...

>Gene--  genef@netcom.com
>
>


From: Steve.Lamb@f1369.n203.z1.abcbcafe.UUCP (Steve Lamb)
Sender: postmaster@abcbcafe.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Ayukawa or Madoka??
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:42:08 -0800

In a message to All, Doug Cha said:

DC> My question is:  Why does Kyosuke STILL call Madoka by her last name
DC>even after knowing her (and knowing her quite well) for over 2 years?

     For that matter, why does Madoka still call Kyosuke "Kasuga-kun."  MY
theory, and the theory of some of those around me...  They are teasing each
other with pet names.  Even though they know each other they still stick to
the formailty to tease.

DC> Fleshman

     <SNICKER>...  I always though it was "Fleicshman" for FLESHman.  :)

... Ushiko-San!  Wherefore art thou Ushiko-San?!

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Mecha scientifically viable?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:22:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.153635.13984@wam.umd.edu>, danrama@wam.umd.edu (Daniel Bloomfield Ramagem) writes:
> I just watched the first two Patlabor on TV eps. and remembered once hearing
> something about those robotic machines -- Labors -- being actually possible
> to construct.  Someone said they are, in an engineering sense, possible.
> Wasn't there some sort of discussion on this topic a while back?  Or some
> sort of article out (if so, where could I find it?) ?

This thread shows here every so often.  The usual consensus is that yes,
mecha CAN be constructed with current technology.  Terribly inefficient
machines, and not nearly as graceful or agile as their anime counterparts,
but they can be constructed.  Now if you can find someone to bankroll the
billions of dollars needed for mecha R&D...
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From: tyip@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu (Tony Yip)
Subject: Re: Bubble Gum Crisis LD Volume 2
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:00:31 GMT

In article <42797@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tdinh@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Anime Addict) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.204642.21908@sbcs.sunysb.edu> tyip@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu writes:
>>
>>	Just got my AnimEigo BGC Volume 2 LD.... just what? There's hiss, just
>>like in the first disc..... Hmmmm...
>
>Hontoo Desu Ka? Which side was it on? I went home and double-checked

	Hootoo Desu!

>my LD by placing my EARS next to the speakers and seeing whether or
>not there was any significant change in the normal hiss(from my
>speakers) and side 1 seemed to be fine. Now Side 2 DID seem as if

	It was side 1 for me.... Side 2's loud music would drown out the
hiss is there were any... <grin>

>there was hiss, but I can't be too sure on that. I'm sure there's
>gotta be a better way to determine whether or not an LD has
>hiss...help!
>
>					Thien
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                      Ota-Kun's Quote of the Day:  
>
>The Average Woman Would Rather Have Beauty than Brains Because the
>Average Man Can See Better than he Can Think.

	I have also notice another thing with the disc.... the analogue track
didn't have the hiss!!! Hmm..... maybe AnimEigo switched the tracks around
when they manufactured the discs?!?!?

--- Tony
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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: R.a.a awards poll update..  Prelimar
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 12:01:56 GMT

In article <01GSUWABKE3M8WW837@delphi.com> MAXSTERLING@delphi.com writes:
>>(Max Sterling)      1   <What's his Japanese name?>
>
>His Japanese name is Maximillian Jinas

	Thanks..  Wendell Hong beat you to it.. but is it Jinas, or is
it Genius?  Or is it Jiniias?  Or is it Jinias?  Or is it...

>Scott Baker
>maxsterling@delphi.com
>(When I look at Miriya, I wish I really WERE Max Sterling!)

	Sure...  but when I look at Madoka, I wish I were dead.



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From: harlock@rahul.net (Mike Harlock)
Subject: Re: Anime Expo GoH #4
Organization: The Space Vessel Arcadia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:03:30 GMT

George, I felt that was a completely useless flame post.  It didn't do a
single lot of good for any party involved here.  Please listen to the words
of Dave Meddinus and others in their recent posts.  Thanks...
(And correct your grammar!  I almost didn't finish your post because of that.
Proper English will get you everywhere.)

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