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From: jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis)
Subject: Fun with $5 note
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:17:27 GMT

Here's a fun, non-destructive trick you can play with the new $5 note.

CAUTION: the resulting image may be offensive to some people, so if the
graphic depiction of coital activity is contrary to your morality then stop now.


Bet that didn't get rid of anyone....oh well, feel free to be offended.


Take a plastic $5 note and place it queen side down (i.e. the transparent
window is in the bottom left hand side of the note).  Take the left hand
edge of the note and fold it to the right forming a crease around 57mm
from the left hand side of the note.  The right-hand side of the queen's
head should now be visible, with about one quarter of her right eye
showing.  Now fold the bottom of the note upwards forming a crease around
25mm from the bottom of the note.  Now turn the resulting rectangle clockwise
90 degress and place your thumb over the crease at the top edge, but not
so much that it obscures the "pearls".  Now look at the area to the left
of your thumb to see the aforementioned coital activity.

james
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: jonathan@psych.psy.uq.oz.au (Jonathan Dwyer)
Subject: Re:  Vegetarian Ethics???????????????
Followup-To: /dev/null
Organization: University of Queensland
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:19:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.015759.19549@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au>, guy@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au (Guy Carpenter) writes:

|> I personally draw the line like this; I don't eat those things which
|> I would not be prepared to personally go out and knock on the head,
|> chop up and gobble down.  But I don't expect anyone else to draw the
|> line in the same place.  And I've learned not to even expect others to
|> admit the line exists for them.

HeeheeeHe!!

Do you mean you are a vegetarian because you personally find that
plants are easier to sneak up on!?!?!



Seriously, though, isn't this the same discussion which pops up periodically
(i.e. every two weeks for the last three years:-) in places like rec.food.nutrition
et cetera (from where I stole the above joke:)????

*yawn*

Newsgroups: aus.general
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Herbivorously Challenged? I think not!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:24:56 GMT

guy@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au (Guy Carpenter) writes:

>While I'm not strictly vegetarian either, I'd say my personal experience
>is much closer to Ron's.

Same here.  I would like to believe it's because everyone feels secretly
guilty about tucking into dead animals, and needs to justify themselves.
But this is probably not true :-)

TOP SEVEN REASONS NOT TO BE A VEGETARIAN

1. What about the poor plants?
2. The cow has a really good life until the end.
3. The cow wouldn't have existed at all if we didn't eat it.
4. God put animals on the earth for us to use.
5. We're more important than animals anyway.
6. Where do you get your protein from?
7. (just recently) vegetarians have to pop vitamin pills all the time.

This is just off the top of my head.  Feel free to add.

Fraser.
From: jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:37:52 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia

fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:

>>Trip a vegetarian today and eat him/her.

>Why bother being politically correct with such a stupid statement?

Ah yes, Politically Correct. Used to be all the rage under the Red,
Red Sun of the Thought of the Great Helmsman and Leader when I was
studying Chinese 25 years ago. The disease has caught on.

Earlier on, before I was born, it used to be "Politikally Korrekt
Ueber Alles". Mit Hakenkreuz on top, pretty please.

There always will be Politically/Religiously/Philosophically...
Correct bigots, whose aim is not correctness, or truth, but just making as 
many people as possible as miserable as possible, even at the cost of being
miserable themselves. That's how their ilk get their rocks off. 

The bit about vegeterianism is but a smokescreen. No-one prevents them
from being the sternest vegetarians, but they want to force everyone
else to, too. Makes sense. Since very, very few people are vegetarians
in Australia, if they succeeded, they'd piss off everybody, send
cattle farmers bankrupt (I should hope they would ban meat exports
too), and God knows what else havoc that would bathe their little
hearts in a warm glow, in the assurance of their self-righteousness
and a wrecking job well-done. Seeds of little Ceaucescus and Pol Pots.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:54:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.012150.21566@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> adm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Alan Moss) writes:
>What does Australia produce that is unmistakably, or uniquely Australian ?
>
>I have thought hard about this and all I can come up with is Aboriginal
>art, and Opals.
>
>Can anyone add any more ?
>Post them here, or email them to me, I will post a summary.
>
Roo meat   (Not sure if I should mention that, given much current traffic ;-)
Queensland [macadamia] nuts - could have been "uniquely Australian", but
	we didn't wake up to their potential until the yanks took them to
	Hawaii, and now export them to the world.  (We have managed to
	catch up a bit in the last couple of decades.)
Bazza and Hoge.

(Incidentally, precious opal is also found in Mexico.  And elsewhere?)



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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: adm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Alan Moss)
Subject: Australian Products ?
Summary: question on what are australian products
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:21:50 GMT

What does Australia produce that is unmistakably, or uniquely Australian ?

I have thought hard about this and all I can come up with is Aboriginal
art, and Opals.

Can anyone add any more ?
Post them here, or email them to me, I will post a summary.

Newsgroups: aus.general
From: jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis)
Subject: Re: Herbivorously Challenged? I think not!
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:53:07 GMT

In <9300801.25370@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:

>lawley@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (michael lawley) writes:

>>11. It would rule out Arnotts biscuits.

>Apprently, Arnotts have recently come through for us.  Yippie!

Fraser and other fellow vegetables,

Write to Arnotts and thank them for this.  Positive comments are always
well received by companies, and it might just make some guy at Arnotts
stand up for us the next time they're deciding what kind of fat to put
in their biscuits.

james
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:54:16 GMT

jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes:

>>Why bother being politically correct with such a stupid statement?

>Ah yes, Politically Correct. Used to be all the rage under the Red,
>Red Sun of the Thought of the Great Helmsman and Leader when I was
>studying Chinese 25 years ago. The disease has caught on.

No, I mean, really.  You made an utterly useless, pointless and
basically crappy statement, but felt you needed to be PC about it.
Normally, when engaging in acts of arcane stupidity, one doesn't
think about consequences enough to bother.  Your effort,
while fulfilling the total lack of thought and intellectual effort
criteria, was obviously considered worthy of a 'him/her' label.
In such a complete waste of space throw-away line, the extra four
characters hardly seem worth it.

Or maybe your post was the height of witticism, and I just missed the point.

Fraser.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: harsant@margana.trl.OZ.AU (Dave Harsant)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: Telecom Research Labs. Melbourne, Vic, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:37:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.012150.21566@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> adm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Alan Moss) writes:
>What does Australia produce that is unmistakably, or uniquely Australian ?

Molly Meldrum?

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: wadley@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gregory Robert Wadley)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:41:57 GMT

andrew@teslab.lab.oz.au (Andrew Phillips) writes:

>are natural-born tree-climbers".  Just as in eating only fruit,
>returning to the trees would solve some problems, such as lower back
>pain, but there would also be some disadvantages.
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Like what?
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: iana@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Ian Adamson)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:51:27 GMT

>Now let's see if I get this right: vegetarians (i.e. people who don't
>believe in killing and eating animals)
	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well I'm a veretarian who does believe in eating animals, and this usually
requires killing them first (unless you eat certain Japanese delicasies).
This may sound hypocritical, however  I
am in it for health reasons - thus consumption of certain sea foods and 
low fat dairy products work for me. A poiso-lacto-vegetarian I believe.

I think you will find a large number of vegies who are in it for the health
aspects, especially athletes, not the killing animals thingy :<>.

Moderation in all things ... especially moderation.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:31:43 GMT

jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes:

>Trip a vegetarian today and eat him/her.

Why bother being politically correct with such a stupid statement?

Fraser.
Newsgroups: aus.general,bne.general
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:19:44 CST
From: <U22822@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: HELP ON SYDNEY PHONE NUMBERS

COULD ANY ONE PROVIDE ME PHONE NUMBERS OF COUPLE OF EMPLOYMENT AGENCIES
IN SYDNEY?

THANKS
MATT
u22822@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: University of Southern Queensland
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:13:32 GMT

brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:

>in article <1993Jan5.015759.19549@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au>, guy@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au (Guy Carpenter) says:
>> I personally draw the line like this: I dont eat those things which
>> I would not be perpared to personally go out and knock on the head,
>> chop up and gobble down.
> 
>So I take it you don't use things you couldn't build yourself either, like
>trains, ball point pens, and computers?  What a ridiculous metric.

BZZT!! GC said "_PREPARED_TO_", not "_ABLE_TO_".  I presume he is _prepared_
to build a train (whether he can or not).  Please put your brain in gear
before you call other people's posts ridiculous.

--

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(house@helios.usq.edu.au)  Toowoomba, Australia.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:48:35 GMT

adm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Alan Moss) writes:

>What does Australia produce that is unmistakably, or uniquely Australian ?

>I have thought hard about this and all I can come up with is Aboriginal
>art, and Opals.
>Can anyone add any more ?

	Kangaroo BollockSkin pouches. Seamless and oh, so soft...

	Akubra Hats.

	Plaited roo-hide cinch-ring belts.

	Drizabone Coats.

	Moleskin trousers.

	Blundstone (sp?) elastic-sided chelsea(ish) boots.

	Tat by Ken Done.

	Lunig. (both of them, in their own way)

	Percy Grainger records.

	Sauce-Bottles in the shape of a dead gumtree with a 
		koala climbing up it. 
		Also "Toby Jugs" in the shape of a koala.

	Stuffed freeze-dried canetoad statues pretending to be elvis presley.

	Flourescent zinc cream.

	Pressed zinc/tin ceiling panels with art deco patterns 
		embossed therein. 

trick questions: Which of these are owned by the poms. 
		 Which are made in taiwan.

	-George
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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:51:36 GMT

kerry@citr.uq.oz.au (Kerry Raymond) writes:

> Fallen nuts can also be eaten. 

Trip a vegetarian today and eat him/her.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Herbivorously Challenged? I think not!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:02:43 GMT

fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:

>Apprently, Arnotts have recently come through for us.  Yippie!

Or is that hippie?

Fraser.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: john@citr.uq.oz.au (John Gottschalk)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:00:19 GMT

guy@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au (Guy Carpenter) writes:

>While we are on (or near) the subject, here are some of the suprises from
>the AusBuy brochure:

>Vegemite - US owned
>Drizabone - US owned
>Jaffa - Swiss
>Minties - Swiss
>Violet Crumble - Swiss
>Coolabah Wine - French
>Jacob's Creek, Gramps, Wyndham Estate wines are all foreign owned.

In addition, Australis perfume is French, I believe. Isn't this
strange for a product with an advert stating that it is the essence of 
Australia? There is an Australian perfume company, but it is not Australis.

			-- regards, John Gottschalk

===================================================================== 
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     Project Manager,
     Centre for Information Technology Research,
     The University of Queensland, 4072, 
     Brisbane, Queensland, Australia,
     +61 7 365 4321 (phone), +61 7 365 4399 (fax)
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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: guy@trofis.tfrc.csiro.au (Guy Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: CSIRO Tropical Forest Research Centre
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:48:09 GMT

adm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Alan Moss) writes:

>What does Australia produce that is unmistakably, or uniquely Australian ?

- Goanna Salve
- Milo (? popular in Thailand & Europe too)
- Australian Wine
- Bundaberg Rum (UK owned)
- Coopers Beer & Brewing Mixes

While we are on (or near) the subject, here are some of the suprises from
the AusBuy brochure:

Vegemite - US owned
Drizabone - US owned
Jaffa - Swiss
Minties - Swiss
Violet Crumble - Swiss
Coolabah Wine - French
Jacob's Creek, Gramps, Wyndham Estate wines are all foreign owned.

This document is *very* interesting.  If you want to support Australian
industry, check it out.  Should be available from Ampol petrol stations.
If not, drop me a line and I might find time to key it all in.

Guy.

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From: drobinso@mendel.une.edu.au (D.Robinson)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Sustainable production/Vegetarian Ethics???
Date: 8 Jan 93 09:01:14 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of New England, Armidale, Australia

In article <1993Jan5.100049.4634@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.232945.15610@philips.oz.au> dave@philips.oz.au (David Torr) writes:

>>it is _much_ more efficient for humans to eat plants than for animals to
>>eat the plants and then for us to eat the plants!  [animals?]
                                           ^^^^^^
>In a sense this is true.  But if you are talking about the need to produce
>the maximum amount of food for humans - which we will all-too-soon need
>given present population growth world wide - then the use of ruminants
>to convert low quality herbage into something we can eat is a *very*
>efficient way to use the world's rangelands where the climate is too
>severe and/or the soils are too poor for reliable crop production.

   Provided we are talking of natural rangeland managed sustainably (as 
opposed to the slash and burn destruction of the Amazonian rainforest), that 
may be true.
   However, almost all beef produced in the USA comes from feedlots, where 
the animals are kept in pens with no grass and fed rations, mainly grains,
grown elsewhere.  The feed for these animals could provide protein and 
nourishment for many more people than the beef carcases.  Lot fed cattle 
generally have more fat, which is harder and whiter and less healthy since 
it is more saturated.
   Anyone interested in sustainable production (or animal welfare?) should
at least avoid grain fed beef (it doesn't taste any better than a good grass
fed animal).  In Australia, it is reckoned we currently loose, on average, 
7k of (almost unreplaceable) soil for every kg of grain produced.
   Ecologically speaking, Australian beef so far wins hands down over
American beef, and we should take note of that in our arguments.  
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: summer@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Mark Summerfield)
Subject: Herbivorously Challenged? I think not!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:19:42 GMT

house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house) writes:

>[BTW: please remember that the average vegetarian goes happily about his
>business, bothering no-one, and yet gets demands to explain his
>philosophies every time he orders a vegetarian meal.  At least that's my
>experience.  I __NEVER__ comment on the subject __FIRST__ to __ANYONE__,
>yet I seem to spend half my life explaining the stupidity or dishonesty
>of all the silly arguments against vegetarianism that have been trotted
>out lately in this forum.]

I find it very hard to believe that this is true these days.  I'm _not_
a vegetarian, and yet I never eat meat at lunchtime, and probably 50% of my
evening meals would be acceptable to the majority of vegetarians.  I do not
cook most of these meals myself -- I eat out a lot, I have three
housemates, so I guess I might cook once a week at the most.  My experience
is that if I want vegetarian food at home, at restaurants or takeaway, and
even when invited to friends or family, all I have to do is say so
(obviously suitably in advance in some cases!) No problems, no questions
asked.  I can't help but wonder whether I find it easy largely because
I don't feel I have anything to "defend" -- I'm just expressing a preference
at any given meal, and people just accept it.

Or perhaps the people I know and places I go are just more enlightened?

Mark.
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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: The great vegie debate (Beans means .....
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:27:55 GMT

haines@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (Andrew Haines, Civil, 1/113) writes:
>  How do you vegeterians out 
>there get on - aren't beans supposed to be a good protein source and 
>therefore figure largely in your diet?

Most things that you eat have varying amounts of protein in them,
so this is not a problem.  As for the wind effects, nothing I have
ever eaten has quite matched some pies I scoffed when I was still
an omnivore.  Beans just don't have it.  So in fact, by turning
vegetarian, I have in fact made the air we beathe cleaner and
fresher.  Oh, the warm glow of moral purity :-)

Fraser.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: doucas@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (Chris Doucas)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Organization: BHP Information Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:40:10 GMT
Followup-To: aus.general

For those galupping Gourmets...
how about Vegemite? (yecch!)

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