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From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:10:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Apr9.231001.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

And everybody writes and writes and flames and flames saying all kinds of
things like "they suck" "no they don't" "Yes they do...."

It's amazing that I left this group for a year, and when I come back I hear
the same things being said-- the EXACT same things... just fill in the name of
the popular band and flame, right?

I love GnR, and I find most of the criticism I read to be either 1) flat-out
wrong or misunderstanding of where people come from, or 2) things that are
just opinions. I hate mayonnaise too, want to flame me? 

The fact is, we all have likes and dislikes, and maybe people hate everythding
about GnR, but no one will ever convince me of that, and I can't change your
mind, so let it go! Commiserate or celebrate by E-mail if you really must!
Music is an art, and art is a funny thing because people get close to it, so
why go out of your way to rant and rave about things that are totally
subjective in the first place? If you like something say so, then people can
listen to it and form their own opinions.

I really hope that it doesn't take you guys a flame-fest to figure out who is
good and who is not... now... let's talk about music. eh?

(and if people are really feelding the power of their flames for Guns and
Roses or anyone else I like or not, feel free to send e-mail.... I love a
debate! But not a public one.

(just to get you started Slash is awesome, Axl has a great voice, he is not
racist, and that is TO a real nipple ring... :)      )

-- 
 __________________________________________________________
|  Christopher L. Lott  --- Poet and Pauper                |
|__________________________________________________________|___
|  fscll@alaska                | "And now what shall become of |
|  fscll@acad3.alaska.edu      |  us without any barbarians?   |
 ------------------------------|  Those people were a kind of  |
                               |          solution."           |
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From: patrick@DPW.COM (Diane Patrick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.makers
Subject: Eric Clapton's "After Midnight"
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:03:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc, rec.music.makers
Organization: DP&W, New York, NY


Hello All,

     This has been driving me crazy for weeks, so I have to ask you
experts: on which of Clapton's albums can I find that slow, easy version of
"After Midnight" (you know the one I mean)?

     Thanks for your help!

	  *  deepee  *
From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Television reunion
Date: 17 Apr 92 10:10:31 GMT
Organization: AI Engineering, Amsterdam.

I already read something about the television reunion but i are they
already performing, recording or is there someone who has heard something
of the music they make right now?




-- 


                                      louis kossen
                                      amsterdam
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: RFD: alt.music.rush
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  9 Apr 92 18:51:50 GMT


Formal Request fo Discussion: new group, alt.music.rush
Followup to alt.config, please!

Status: Unmoderated

Charter: Alt.music.rush is intended to be a forum for discussion
about anything having to do with the Canadian hard rock band Rush.
Subjects for discussion would include such things as touring information,
the band's music style, albums past and future, songs/lyrics, the
individual members, and just about anythign else dealing with Rush.

WHY do we need this group?

There are many fans of Rush on the net. The new group will provide a
area outside of the general-interest music groups for Rush fans to
discuss Rush.

Rush currently has a thriving mail list, this group is designed not
to compete with the mail list, but to complement it. Alt.music.rush
will enable very fast postings and responses, leading to greater 
ability for interactive discussions. The mailing list unfortunately
comes out only 4 or so times a week, limiting discussion. I suspect
than most net rush fans who subscribe to the newsletter will continue
to do so, and will post to both.

Rush as a band is certainly large enough to warrant its own group.
They have been in existance for nearly 20 years, and have released
17 albums in that span. Through the last two decades, Rush has built
up a large fan base, and there is plently to talk about in the new
group. It will not be under-utilized. I expect probably over a dozen
postings a day to the new group.

SOME ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE GROUP DEFUSED:

"I enjoy reading about *all* music on rec.music.misc."

A valid point, but nevertheless, the purpose of creating a new group
is to serve those who want it, and fill a need. Alt.music.rush would
do both. If you enjoy Rush enough to occasionally scan the new group,
more power to you. If not, you can still enjoy the *continuing* diver-
sity of the .misc music group.

"Rush has a mailing list, why the need for the group?"

See my discussion last page.

"There was a vote for rec.music.rush last year, and it failed"

True. But rec.music.rush still had a plurality (majority) in favor of
it, it just didn't get the 2/3 required for a new group. I am sure if
there was a vote tommorrow for rec.music.alternative, it would fail too.
However, alt.music.alternative is a thriving group - there was controversy
when it was created, but it is now an established group. The facts are
clear. Rush deserves this new group. A majority wanted a new group last
November. Alt.music.rush will be a test bed where it will be able to
stand on its own or fail. Grant us this chance.

"As soon as alt.music.rush is formed, every band will want its
own group."

No! I am doing this the right way, posting a RFD, charter, and waiting
for discussion. If fans of other bands can do this the right way, then
more power to them. We have this right. It is not up to net.police to
decide what is right or wrong on the net!

Let the discussion begin!
From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Sugarcubes.puke.puke.puke!!.NOT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:04:06 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <5480@kielo.uta.fi> memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto) writes:
>In article <9180039@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson) writes:
>> Does anyone know if they still live in Iceland? What style is this music?
>> Alternative? Punk? New Wave? I can't even identify it!
>> 
>>                                                               -reykja
>
>Who cares what kind of music they make?? To me they sound kinda alternative
>pop. Great music anyway! And no, they don't live in Iceland anymore. In their
>own words: 'We live somewhere between Reykjavik and London.'.
>
>Tumpa

Take anything the cubes say in interviews with a bag of salt. They all live
in Iceland. 
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Graham       "Droppin' science like Galileo dropped the orange."
graham@ug.cs.dal.ca
From: eerke@cs.kun.nl (Eerke Boiten)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: THREE GREATEST CHORDS OF ALL TIME
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:45:26 GMT
Organization: Rudimentary Blues Bands, Inc.

booyacht@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ryan Lucas, but actually Josh) writes:
>What are the three greatest rock & roll chords of all time? [..]
>Having laid that groundwork, here is my personal list:
>1. E  - *the* all-time classic rock chord, period.
>2. A  - the chord that just begs to follow E.
>3. B  - cuz no chord sounds sweeter after eight bars of E and A.
>jqp2001@andy.bgsu.edu

Yeah! I agree completely!
--
Eerke
Albert
Boiten
eerke@cs.kun.nl
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: krj@convex.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans)
Subject: Re: Yet another indie label about to bite the dust
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 15:39:00 GMT


On the Polygram acquisition of the Fantasy labels, and on the commercial
viability of Jazz:  remember that the record industry is now operating 
on a global basis, and Polygram is a European-based conglomerate.
Classic jazz seems to sell very well in Europe and in Japan; look at 
all the releases from those countries listed in the Down Home Music
mail order catalogs.  My guess is that the commercial prospects of 
jazz in the USA had little to do with Polygram's new acquisition.

I hate to come across as xenophobic, but here goes another large chunk
of American cultural heritage, sold off to a foreign conglomerate, following
in the steps of Columbia, RCA and MCA.  Americans used to own four of the
Big Six record firms, and we're now down to 1, Time-Warner.
--
--Ken Josenhans
    BITNET:  13020KRJ@MSU     Internet: 13020KRJ@msu.edu
From: harsha@ksr.com (Paul Harsha)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Who does this version of _Hey Joe_ ?
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:46:13 GMT

grether@cvt7.verfahrenstechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Grether Bernd (sorescu)) writes:

>I heard a version of _Hey Joe_ a few days ago with an accordion (sp?)
>or something similar as the lead instrument.
>The only artist that came to my mind was _Buckwheat Zydeco_.

>Does anybody know who it really is?

Probably _Buckwheat Zydeco_.  There's a version of _Hey Joe_ on the new
album.

-Paul
--
   Paul Harsha (harsha@ksr.com)               Kendall Square Research Corp.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: Whose is this song?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 01:16:15 EDT
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo
Distribution: rec

In article <VP.92Apr11194211@alfa.fct.unl.pt> vp@fct.unl.pt (Vasco Pedro) writes:

>Hi

Hi.

>Can anyone help me identify a song of which I only know these verses:

Lyrics deleted, from "Faded Flowers", by Shriekback, for "Oil and
Gold".  Good song.

>Also, it is a guy singing and it sounds a bit like a mellower Sisters
>of Mercy.

Feh!

--
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103

        "Sand will not make you a very thrilling overcoat"
                                          --Kenneth Koch
From: geog1294@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: U2 EUROPEAN TOUR: info wanted
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:00:07 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Has there been any word on U2 tour dates for Europe and the United
Kingdom? Dates, places, venues, etc? 
Any and all information greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Colin.
From: hamish@umberto.sybase.com (Just Another Deckchair on the Titanic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Apropos of nothing much....
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:16:25 GMT
Reply-To: hamish@umberto.sybase.com (Just Another Deckchair on the Titanic)
Organization: Sybase Inc, Emeryville CA USA

So, anyone know whatever happened to Alvin Lee? (Yes, I watched
"Woodstock" on TV last night...).

	Hamish
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Hamish Reid           Sybase Inc, 6475 Christie Ave, Emeryville CA 94608 USA
+1 510 596-3917       hamish@sybase.com                  uunet!sybase!hamish
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 11:59:13 CDT
From: <U38373@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.games.trivia,bit.listserv.cinema-l,
Subject: Film Trivia Quiz Answers: Film Directors in Music Videos

 1. Bruce Springsteen, "Glory Days"         
 8. Bruce Springsteen, "Dancing In The Dark" <--> E. John Sayles
 2. George Michael, "One More Try" <--> L. Tony Scott
 3. The Kinks, "Come Dancing" 
12. Tom Petty, "Free Falling"   <--> H. Julien Temple
 4. Billy Idol, "Dancing With Myself" <--> A. Tobe Hooper
 5. Lionel Richie, "All Night Long" <--> I. Bob Rafelson
 6. Michael Jackson, "Bad" <--> C. Martin Scorsese
 7. Belinda Carlyle, "Heaven Is A Place On Earth" <--> B. Diane Keaton
 9. Madonna, "Cherish"        
13. Chris Isaak, "Wicked Game" <--> G. Herb Ritts
10. Michael Jackson, "Thriller" <--> M. John Landis
11. Sting, "Bring On The Night" <--> D. Michael Apted
14. Michael Jackson, "Remember The Time" <--> K. John Singleton

None of the above videos $F. Spike Lee
                         $J. Martha Coolidge
                         $N. None of the above

New Wave Dave's response would easily qualify as the most imaginative,
even if it weren't the only one.  He said,

>My entry is "None of the above" for every video. Maybe I'll actually get
>something that way...

Better luck next time, Dave :-).  Next time, BTW, will be real soon, as
the next quiz in this series will be posted shortly.

                                           Mitch Pravatiner
                                           U38373@uicvm.uic.edu
From: danielh@sequent.com (Daniel Hobbs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.forsale,rec.music.misc
Subject: How much are GNR Interview Platters worth?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:40:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr14.164003.14464
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.


A friend of mine picked up a 4-platter set of Guns N Roses
interview vinyl platters.  They are imports, and the label lists them
as "limited edition" -- don't remember the publisher.  Each disk has
an interview with a single band member, and has black and white photos
on each side.

Any idea how much this set might be worth?

I don't read these groups as a rule, so please reply via email.

Dan Hobbs
danielh@sequent.com
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Brand X (was Re: he can't dance/he can't sing)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:32:02 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr10.115217.2503@titan.ksc.nasa.gov> doug@doug.ksc.nasa.gov (doug hammond) writes:
 
|I agree that Phil is a capable drummer.  I have to wonder about Brand X
|though.  Admittedly, I only have one of their albums ("Morrocan Roll") but
|these guys struck me as being kind of overrated.  Now that I've started a 
|deluge of Percy what's his name is God hate-mail I'll offer, maybe this 
|release was a low point in their career?
|
|Any recommendations for the "good stuff"?

Unorthodox Behavior, their first album is really good.  The song "Nuclear
Burn" is really hot.  The other album worth listening to is "Product".  There
are vocals on two or three cuts but they don't distract from the music.
Percy Jones is more prominent on this album.  While I don't claim Percy
is god, the bass playing on this album is outstanding.

-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
+=============================================================================+
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From: dwb4025@rigel.tamu.edu (BARTEK, DAVID WINFIELD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: A question about Queensryche
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:23:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <cubsfan.702704218@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes...
>A question for all you Queensryche fans out there:
> 
>Is the song "Is Anybody Listening?" fairly representative of what
>Queensryche is like? I have seen this video repetitively on MTV
>as of late, and was wondering if  the rest of Queensryche's stuff
>is like that, both musically and lyrically?
> 
>Any answers, or a brief "Queensryche primer" would be appreciated, as
>I know next to nothing about that group.
> 
>Thanks.


Ok.. you asked for it, you get it.. I'm probably the biggest Queensryche 
fan on this campus (A&M), and i can tell you anything you would like to
know..  "Anybody Listening" is definately a Queensryche song, although i
dont think you can call it representative of the band.. one of the band's
strong points is its diversity in both style and feeling in their songs.
If you are more into heavier stuff than "Anybody Listening?" I would 
recommend the album Operation: Mindcrime.  It is a very well received
conceptual album that really broke the band into the spotlight.  It is 
a good deal harder than Empire, although i really like Empire as well..
you really cant compare different Queensryche albums.. Each stands alone
as more of a work of art than a record.  I must differ with some people's
opinion that Queensryche sucks because of "silent Lucidity".. if you would
actually listen to their other material and not rely on top 40 radio air
play, you will discover one of the most diverse bands of our time...


--DoctorX--

"Father William saved her from the streets....
She drank the lifeblood from the Saviour's feet...
She's Sister Mary now, eyes as cold as ice...
He takes her once a week on the altar like a sacrifice..."
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: any a-ha fans out there?
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:59:16 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest
In-reply-to: morteng@loke.dhhalden.no's message of 13 Apr 92 15:00:56 GMT


my fiancee likes a-ha, and notes that as the band's popularity has decreased,
their quality has increased.

				-shag
--

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Sugarcubes.puke.puke.puke!!.NOT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:31:13 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <9180039@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson) writes:
> Does anyone know if they still live in Iceland? What style is this music?
> Alternative? Punk? New Wave? I can't even identify it!
> 
>                                                               -reykja

Who cares what kind of music they make?? To me they sound kinda alternative
pop. Great music anyway! And no, they don't live in Iceland anymore. In their
own words: 'We live somewhere between Reykjavik and London.'.

Tumpa
From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: THREE GREATEST CHORDS OF ALL TIME
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:46:29 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr7.085300.17734@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> booyacht@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ryan Lucas) writes:

>All right, since I've been reading the .music groups I've seen lists fly back
>and forth for the greatest rock bands, greatest rock singers, greatest albums,
>most overrated bands, best would-be superbands, etc., etc., etc.  I, for one,
>think it's high time we got down to the real core of all this.  With that in
>mind, I put forth the following question:

>What are the three greatest rock & roll chords of all time?

>1. E  - *the* all-time classic rock chord, period.
>2. A  - the chord that just begs to follow E.
>3. B  - cuz no chord sounds sweeter after eight bars of E and A.

NO NO NO 
G C and D without a doubt . 
                           Peter.
From: bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP (Erik Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Pop Will Eat Itself Discography Wanted.
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:30:36 GMT
Organization: The Matrix


   I figure the title says it all, here.. I'm basically looking for a 
PWEI discography.  Also.. any news on what they're doing right now?  As 
far as I can tell, they get better with each release.  Wish they'd tour 
and come to Florida... agh.

   Thanks in advance.

- Erik

BTW - saw Lush live this past Saturday.. wonderful show.  Sounded GREAT.  
I got little tingly adrenaline rushes through the whole show... :)  But 
then people had to spread rumour that the show was taped and kinda bum me 
out, but I won't let myself believe it. <grin>


Erik D. Dahlberg  (bbs.morpheus@jwt.UUCP)
".. some say pushing is better than shoving but I'd rather know a shover 
 than a pusher 'cos the pusher's a jerk." - De La Soul.
From: rlopez@cs.tamu.edu (Stevie Ray Lopez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Lyrics wanted
Keywords: eat more mumbling moose
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:08:41 GMT
Organization: The Hosequarium South

In article <92101.095624GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu> GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>     Could somebody please send me the Lyrics for "Louie, Louie?"
>I would really appreciate it.
>
>
>                                 Thanks,
>                                 gnnr100@psuvm.psu.edu

WARNING: imminent death of the net predicted, 4/15/92

srl

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:03:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.142357.9024@wheaton.wheaton.edu> dledelen@wheaton.edu (Daniel Lane Edelen) writes:
>In article <neeri.702569173@iis> neeri@iis.ethz.ch (Matthias Ulrich Neeracher) writes:
>
>>Anybody who lumps all of Rap together shows his ignorance of it. What is the
>>problem with liking both Jethro Tull and Public Enemy ?
>>
>>Matthias
>
>In reply to your comment about my inablility to distinguish Rap, I would have
>to say that at the ripe old age of 29 I do sound like my father. Yes, folks do
>you remember the days when your parents would make comments about all rock
>music sounding the same? Well now I find myself saying that about Rap.

Well, your parents (and mine) were wrong then, and you're wrong now.  Try
listening to it.  Really, seriously listening to it, without pre-judging
it as crap.  Play a De La Soul and a Public Enemy track back to back.
If they sound the same, then so do Elvis and AC/DC.

>Seriously, once you've heard one Rap album you've basically heard them all.

Seriously, this is one of the more ignorant lines I've ever heard.  I
suppose that all rappers look alike, too, right?

>Rap also suffers from the "any couple of guys with an attitude can record an
>album of rantings about this and that" syndrome. 

Yep, rappers generally have an attitude.  Me?  I like people with 
attitudes, and I find that they often have more interesting things to 
say than people who think that the world is just hunky dory.  There's
a long and proud history of social protest in western music, from
"Cam Ye O'er Frae France" and "My Son John" through Brendan Behan
through Woodie Guthrie through Bob Dylan through Chuck D., with a
lot of stops in between.  I don't like all rap music, but what I
*do* like fits very much into the tradition of angry, disenfranchised
members of society protesting their plight.  And you'd better believe
that, not only as a music fan but also as a human being, I think
that's worth listening to and heeding.

>Needless to say, here today,
>gone tomorrow....

Needless to say, here today, here twelve years ago, and probably
around for a lot of years to come.  

>If someone wishes to prove to me that Rap is real music then please show me
>where the majority of Rap songs have a transcriptable melody line.

The dreaded "real music" comment again.  Want to define that?  On
second thought, don't.  But here's a clue:  melody isn't the point.

> @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @              Daniel Lane Edelen            @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
>  @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @           dledelen@david.wheaton.edu         @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
>   @ @ @ @ @ @ @      uunet.uu.net!tellab5!wheaton!dledelen     @ @ @ @ @ @ @
>    @ @ @ @ @ @     "No matter where you go, there you are."     @ @ @ @ @ @

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
att!cblpo!ajw  or
ajw@cblpo.att.com
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