From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Ratings & Rush (was Re:  What about Paul?)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 15:49:20 GMT


tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson)...
>> >WARNING:  Not much Letterman content here--bail out now...
>>Ditto! 
>>The "content" should have likely been posted to alt.personal.flame,
>>or alt.rabid.rush.fan, but whatever..

I can't believe you are wasting so much time and bandwith for this crap!

 >>arsenios ratings have been slumping badly, but is there any proof your guy
 >>is doing that well?  In L.A. for example arse is on at 11pm, while ruch 
 >>comes on at 1am.  I highly doubt he could be doing as well as you claim.
 >Mmm-hm.  Variety and TV Guide both reported these ratings, as well as
 >the Boston Globe. Whether or not you "highly doubt" it, those are the facts!

Wrong...  Here are the ACTUAL facts (I have yet to see ANY from you):

(Neilson Syndication ratings, from BROADCASTING 12/14/92)

  Oprah Winfrey            10.2
  Donahue                   5.7
  Sally Jessy Raphael       5.3
  Geraldo                   4.3
  Regis & Kathie Lee        4.1
  Maury Povich              4.1
  Arsenio Hall              3.2
  Rush Limbaugh             3.0

So DROP this phony claims about your guy being so incredibly popular.
Even MAURY POVICH is doing better than that jerk...   DAVE would/will
leave him wallowing *far* behind in his own little radical world.

 >And, for the second time, he's not "my guy"...
Then WHY do you so vehemently defend him with flames and phony claims??

 >>>Stern "reaches" more than TEN million people in L.A. alone!
 >My point exactly
Sorry, that was my point...  

 >that's his potential audience
Wrong again.  Counting the full coverage of all his stations in ten cities,
including several of the largest metro regions in the country, he likely
"reaches" close to ten times that number...

 >but how many of those actually listen to his show?  
A LOT.  He has the #1 rated show in L.A., N.Y., Phil., and more on the way.

 >The numbers for Limbaugh's show were based on Arbitrons (radio's ratings 
 >system), not US Census figures...
What "numbers"?  The ONLY numbers have been the ones I posted...

 >NOW he is also the #1 show in Los Angeles, and is rising fast in Chicago,
 >Dallas, Las Vegas, and several other cities...  10M is a safe estimate.
 >The Arbitrons do not support your claim
Boy are you out of touch...  Whatever.

 >this is about ratings--and with the ratings Limbaugh gets as the 
 >#1 radio show in the country, 
Ha!  There is more of your glowing (flase) fanboyism...  Howard Stern has 
the #1 show, and if your rush fellow was ever put into radio "prime time"
like that, he would fall faster than if you pushed him out of a window.

 >he could charge the stations and they'd still carry the show.
I guess he gives it away FREE because he's such a "nice guy", eh?
Come on, get real...

 >I've now cited TV ratings 3 times and Arbitrons 3 times in 2 posts
You've done nothing but post flames and totally unsubstantiated claims,
which were quite easily disproved by some REAL facts which I provided.

 >>DAVE has had a very successful nightly network show for ELEVEN years.  
 >You edited it out, but I believe I was referring to another conservative
 >media outlet, _The 700 Club_.  This has been on since the mid-'70s 
Ugh... there you go again.  WHO GIVES A RATS ASS about your "700 club"!!

 >I believe, and Robertson's early shows from which this was drawn began
 >in the late 60's.  In case you need more "evidence," that's significantly
 >longer than 11 years.
Who cares if it is 100 years!  What does that have to do with a 
REAL show like DAVE LETTERMAN (remember him?) puts on!  Come on!!

 >>Also FYI: this is alt.FAN.letterman!!
 >Which is why I posted the warning at the head of the message.
Big deal... you are still wasting time...

 >And which also causes me to wonder why you posted the original 4-screen-long
 >rant about Rush Limbaugh to alt.fan.letterman in the first place...
I didn't.  I posted a REPLY to someone that disgustingly ranted about rush,
trying to say he was "more popular" <ugh> and would get better ratings than
DAVE LETTERMAN!!  That is a *HOT BUTTON* if i've ever seen one!  Such a 
totally sickening slur against DAVE is very much deserving of a strong reply.

 >> >OK, _The 700 Club_, to take a relevant example
 >>You call THAT "relevant"??  Thanks for the tip where your head is at! 
 >Hmmm--lets see--both enormously popular media outlets for roughly the
 >same group of viewers/listeners (conservative, mainly Christian, 
Ugh... More "tips" I guess for what you find "enormously popular".

 >Perhaps you're misinterpreting "irrelevant" as "not agreeing 
 >with your viewpoints"...
Nope, not at all.  It is very easy to consider such a tiny little group 
of crackpot fundie lunatics to be quite irrelevant to any meaningful
contemplation of most subjects.  

 >Hate to respond to my own post,
Funny, I feel the exact same way about your posts!  :->

 >but I should point out that I don't watch either show, nor do I support 
 >many of Robertson's actions
Do you really expect anyone to believe that after all your GLOWING and
seemingly unending posts about both of them?   I don't think so...

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