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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Macedonian World Congress
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 



SAS Writes:
> 3) Macedonian was never a region of Greece. On the contrary, Greece
>    was often subject to Macedonia. In 1913, Greece and her Balkan
>    allies partitioned Macedonia, and if today a portion of
>    Macedonian belongs to Greece, it is by virtue of an illegal
                                                         ~~~~~~~
>    partition of the whole and occupation of a part of Macedonia.
     ~~~~~~~~~                  ~~~~~~~~~~


  So much for the claim by some that pseudo-"Macedonia" has no
territorial claims against Greece. All this talk of 'occupation' of
Macedonia by Greece is made for only one reason: To support claims
against Greece in the future.


Michael
From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: Viet: Film Makers Jailed
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:22:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1476700907:000:1346
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 22 10:22:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: Viet: Film Makers Jailed

From @PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU:SEASIA-L@MSU.BITNET Tue Dec 22 09:24:53
1992

12/21

VIETNAMESE COURT JAILS FOUR FILM-MAKERS

    HANOI, Dec 21, Reuter - A court in Ho Chi Minh city has jailed
four Vietnamese film-makers for working with a Hong Kong company
that produced a film alleged to have contained anti-government
propaganda, a spokesman for the court said on Monday.
    Two of the film-makers, Pham Cong Canh and Pham Kim Thanh were
sentenced to three years imprisonment by the People's Court on
November 25. Nguyen Quoc Minh was sentenced to two years and Huynh
Xay for 16 months.
    They were convicted of "violating the law, irresponsibility
and anti-government propaganda," the spokesman said.
    The Vietnamese army newspaper, Quan Doi Nhan Dan, reported
earlier that Canh, a former head of the state-run Union of
Video-Cinematography Enterprises signed a contract in 1989 with
Hong Kong's Chun Sing Film Co (CSF) to provide services for a film
called "Loving the Song from Vietnam."
    The newspaper said the union "lost its sense of vigilance" and
allowed CSF to use "sophisticated and wicked tricks to violate the
contract, making a film with reactionary content to smear the
Socialist Republic of Vietnam."
    No other details were immediately available.
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:31 PST
Subject: Haiti: Worse Than Ever
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1476700920:000:1714
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 28 12:31:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: Haiti: Worse Than Ever

/* Written  9:10 pm  Dec 26, 1992 by jlynch@igc.apc.org in
igc:reg.carib */
	* Forwarded from the COBWEB (Church of the Brethren)
	network on the ECUNET system.

COB COMMUNICATIONS Dec. 16, 1992 at 19:20 Eastern  (1402
characters)

Haiti `worse than ever' Brethren sees evidence of continuing
repression

``Under an overlay of pretended normalization, the repression is
worse than ever,'' said Cinny Poppen after a September 25-October
2 trip to Haiti.

   Poppen is a Brethren member working with the Chicago Religious
Task Force on Central America. The Task Force-sponsored trip
coincided with the anniversary of the military coup that ousted
democratically elected president Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

   The group also included two representatives of the Christian
Peacemaker Teams, a Brethren and Mennonite group. CPT sent a group
to Haiti December 10, including Brethren Elayne King, of Carlisle,
Pa., and Sharon Helbert, of Timberville, Va.

   ``In Haiti the rule of law has totally collapsed,'' Poppen
reported.  ``In the few days following the coup, 2,000 people were
killed; that number has now tripled or even quadrupled.

   ``The army is one pillar of the hierarchy in Haiti; the other
is the church,'' Poppen said. ``All the (Catholic) bishops except
one are doing their best to keep the repression going,'' but ``a
large group of courageous priests and nuns work directly with the
poor and are targeted for harassment,'' she said.

   ``The spirit of resistance remains strong, under incredibly
difficult conditions.'' --AGENDA January/February 1993

--Communication Team, Church of the Brethren General Board, Elgin,
IL, USA
From: kmurali2@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: HAppy NEWYEAR!!
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:19:33 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

			HAPPY NEWYEAR!!

HOpe the Human Rights violations around the world will come to an end soon!!

			Peace on Earth!!
Mk
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:17 PST
Subject: Re: Human rights reports on ex-Yugoslav
Nf-ID: #R:Bzu2yp.5F7@ecf.toronto.edu:-1848169236:cdp:1476700917:000:239
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 28 12:17:00 1992


I would like to know if you have Amnesty International's permission
to have their documents online? This is rather a sore point with
them and they are very clear on copyright violation.

Debra Guzman
Human Rights Coordinators
APC Networks

Xref: sparky soc.rights.human:4636 soc.culture.yugoslavia:10231 soc.culture.europe:10701 soc.culture.greek:11762
From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: GUATEMALA: ARMY RAZED RURAL COMMUNI
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:26:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1476700902:000:1608
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 20 07:26:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: GUATEMALA: ARMY RAZED RURAL COMMUNI

/* Written 12:06 am  Dec 20, 1992 by newsdesk@igc.apc.org in
igc:ips.englibrary */ Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all
rights reserved.  Permission to re- print within 7 days of
original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: GUATEMALA: ARMY RAZED RURAL COMMUNITIES, CODEHUCA REPORTS


san jose, dec 17 (ips) -- the guatemalan army conducted ''scorched
earth'' operations in indigenous communites of the north-east
quiche province, the central american commission in defense of
human rights (codehuca) reported thursday.

according to the codehuca communique, the army operation, begun
nov. 21, totally destroyed the infrastructure in the communities
of cuarto pueblo and los angeles.

''the army razed everything, set fire to the houses, killed
domestic and farm animals, and destroyed all the household
appliances and tools,'' the san jose-based human rights
organisation reported.

''in addition, they robbed valuable objects and destroyed the
communities agricultural fields.''

compiled in coordination with the guatemalan commission for human
rights, the codehuca communique states that the communities of
cuarto pueblo and los angeles were completely destroyed and its
inhabitants have sought refuge in the surrounding mountains and in
neighbouring chiapas, mexico.

codehuca denounced the guatamalan government's failure to comply
with the ''esquipulas ii accord,'' which calls for an end regional
violence and provides incentives for rural residents and refugees.
(end/ips/trd/so/im/eli/92)
----
From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: Timor Clandestine Net Hurt
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:29:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1476700910:000:1715
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 22 13:29:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: Timor Clandestine Net Hurt

/* Written  5:14 pm  Dec 21, 1992 by apakabar@igc.apc.org in igc:reg.indonesia */

    According to a December 21 Reuter story by Wilson da Silva datelined
Sydney, the human rights group Amnesty International has condemned an 
Indonesian military crackdown it says is underway in East Timor.
    The group said on Monday that it has confirmed 60 arrests and has
reports of 650 more since last months's anniversary of a massacre in the
East Timor capital Dili.
    Rebel groups said the crackdown has paid off for Jakarta, saying key
clandestine operatives have gone silent and the resistance in serious
disarray.
    The London-based organisation said it has confirmed the arrests of
another 25 Timorese, including senior bureaucrats working for Jakarta,
businessmen, civil servants, nurses and Timorese serving in the
Indonesian forces.
    The latest group bring to 60 the number of confirmed arrests, but
Timorese in Australia and exiled resistance officials have reported some
650 arrested, Amnesty said.
    "The opposition (resistance) has been demoralised since the capture
of Xanana Gusmao," said Amnesty director Andre Frankovits, refering to
the Timorese guerrilla leader captured by Indonesian forces on November
20.
    "The crackdown certainly hasn't stopped and one has to be seriously
concerned about their safety and welfare," he said.
    Timorese rebel spokesmen in Australia said the clandestine network
they rely on for information from the former Portuguese territory, which
Indonesia invaded and then annexed after Lisbon withdrew its
administration in 1975, has virtually dried up as the crackdown has
proceeded.
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Date: 28 Dec 92 11:38 PST
Subject: UNITED STATES: Bush to ship pending
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1476700912:000:2688
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 28 11:38:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: UNITED STATES: Bush to ship pending

/* Written 12:16 am  Dec 25, 1992 by newsdesk@igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: UNITED STATES: Bush to ship pending arms to China


washington, dec 22 (ips) -- u.s. president george bush has decided
to ship to china military equipment which had been frozen in jul.
1989 to protest beijing's crackdown on the ''pro-democracy
movement'', the state department announced tuesday.

the gesture, which covers sales made but not yet delivered to
china, appeared to seal a process of gradual normalisation of ties
with china since crackdown, which culminated in the killing of
students in beijing's tienanmen square in jun. 1989.

last week, bush ended a ban on the visit to china of u.s.
cabinet-rank officials when he sent his commerce secretary,
barbara franklin, to the chinese capital.

a brief statement released by the state department at the end
of the day tuesday said bush decided it was ''in our national
interest'' to close out four cases of suspended sales.

it said these include an avionics upgrade for chinese f-8
warplanes, equipment for a munitions production line, four anti-
submarine torpedoes, and two artillery-locating radar systems.

the statement stressed that all the equipment will be delivered
''as is, with no follow-on support, repairs, maintenance, or
training by the u.s''.

it said the united states has ''no plans for new arms sales to
china'', and that the four programmes affected by the u.s. protest
''were suspended to demonstrate our deep concern about the tragic
events in the country. we have made our point.

''we now believe that continuing to hold aging items after a
three-and-a-half-year suspension hinders rather than helps u.s.
efforts to promote cooperative (chinese) behaviour in a range of
areas.''

washington and beijing continue to have major differences on
the latter's human rights record and china's alleged export of
advanced arms and nuclear facilities to predominantly muslim
countries in the middle east and south asia, especially iran and
pakistan.

u.s. allies japan and several european countries have fully
normalised their ties with china during the past year, and bush, a
former envoy to beijing, has been anxious to put u.s. relations on
an even keel.

president-elect bill clinton attacked bush for ''coddling''
beijing's hardline leaders during the campaign for the november
presidential election and vowed a tougher policy after he takes
office jan. 20. (end/ips/jl/yjc/92)
From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: Phil: Execution Scheduled in Saudi
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:23:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1476700908:000:883
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 22 10:23:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: Phil: Execution Scheduled in Saudi

From @PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU:SEASIA-L@MSU.BITNET Tue Dec 22 09:36:28
1992

MANILA, Philippines (UPI) President Fidel Ramos Tuesday appealed
to Saudi Arabia's King Fahd to pardon a Filipino born-again
preacher scheduled to be hung on Christmas Day in Riyadh.

``I wish to make a personal appeal to Your Royal Highness to spare
Oswaldo Magdangal from execution,'' Ramos said in a letter to the
monarch. ``As you know, 25 December is observed as a universal day
of peace and forgiveness. I believe that the significance of the
season would not be missed by Your Majesty.''

Magdangal has been accused of preaching the Christian faith in
Saudi Arabia, a Muslim country. Aside from Ramos' letter, the
government also instructed the Philippine ambassador to Saudi
Arabia to help secure Magdangal's release.
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From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dworking
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:03:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec23.200347.17320
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Dec23.125439.16593@thinkage.on.ca> kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.172603.21477@spdcc.com> joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:
>>>intercourse is fully as horrific as the gas chambers at 
>>>Auschwitz?
>>
>>I knew there was something about heterosexuality that gave me the
>>willies! Dworkin's put her finger right on it! Hitler! How fresh!
>
>willies are penises (penii?) arent they?
>
>put her finger right on it?

You win the 10,000 Canadian dollar "find the pun in the post" prize!
Free trip to Paris, and a free ride there...!
-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi,alt.sex.motss,alt.support
From: wij@world.std.com (William I Johnston)
Subject: Re: Questionnaire for HIV-negative people
Summary: Complete P.O. box for anonymous replies
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:43:53 GMT

The complete P.O. box for anonymous replies to the
questionnaire now appears in the signature below.

-- 
wij@world.std.com
William I Johnston
P.O. Box 126
Boston MA 02117 USA
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 28 Dec 1992 15:09:56 EST
From: <SECBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject:    Misplaced Concern? :-)

In article: <1992Dec28.190311.27033@bnr.ca>,
gal@crchh503.bnr.ca (Gene Lavergne) sigs off with:

> | In all of opera, I most identify |
> | with the character of Elektra.   |
> | That often worries me.           |

It should worry your mother a great deal more.  Or do you intend
to surprise her?

Jack Carroll
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: leslie@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Leslie Farnell)
Subject: Re: BBC Leads In Pro-Gay Television
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:54:16 GMT

mcenery@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Tony McEnery) writes:

>	Now, however, things seem to have changed. For the next season
>of stories they have broken away from their traditional fayre of Narnia
>books and stories about kindly elves and pixies. Instead at least one
>of the stories deals with gay rights and AIDS! The story is about some
>Australian kid who travels to England to try to meet the Queen. He does
>this because his brother is dying, and he wants to make the Queen aware
>of the plight of lesbian/gay teenagers dying of AIDS (the article was unclear
>about whether the brother is dying of this). He also wants the Queen to 
>visit them.

I guess this must be Two Weeks With The Queen by Morris Gleitzmann. This
just had a successful run here as a play; rave reviews and so good they
moved to another theatre to continue performing after the original run
finished. Unfortunately, by the time I got around to thinking about tickets,
it was all over.

However, the book is on sale all over, so I've bought it for my partner's
son's wife's daughter. (If you follow, English doesn't seem to have a word
for someone who is related via two de-facto links.) As a Xmas present.

Les

Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Foreskin-Impaired (was Re: Drooling over...)
Organization: Jenny Agutter Fan Club
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:06:44 +0000

In article <RHAYDEN.92Dec26173107@hqsun2.oracle.com> rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden) writes:
>
>Also, some people say that the increased sensitivity due to the lack
>of a foreskin makes for shorter lovemaking.

Shurely shome mishtake? I always thought that the glans became less
sensitive as a result of being permanently exposed?

BTW, one of the guys in my house has recently been circumcised, so I'll
ask his opinion.

Nigel.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:29:12 GMT

In article <1h7hkdINNeuu@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.144024.28676@tc.cornell.edu> 
>shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
>> While I certainly disagree with Dworkin, that won't stop me
>> from disagreeing with you about her.  Her suggestion that
>> true consensuality can't exist between two people where
>> there is a gross power imbalance is a valid one. 

>If I thought that were her point, I would of course agree 
>with her.

And how do you think she arrived at her conclusions?  Andrea
Dworkin writes that all heterosexual sex is rape because ...
Because what?  What are the arguments she presents (without
an ad hominem attack, if you please)?

A thing I like about Andrea Dworkin is that she pisses off
men so thoroughly.  Men (notably straight white men) are so
rarely the object of complete dehumanization.  I don't think
that turnabout is fair play, but I do feel that reading
Dworkin could lead more men to the "Aha!" experience.  Mind
you, all too many who do read Dworkin don't think about
it beyond being simply outraged, but maybe some encouragement
to consider why they're so angry at Andrea Dworkin could
result in a better understanding of what it is to be a
woman or minority in this culture, and how it might feel
to live as the object of this kind of hate, day in and day
out.  
--
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
From: Cread@Fwva.Saic.Com
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Homos in the bible
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:36:28 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Int'l, Corp. - Computer systems operation

endora@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Ken McCamish) writes:
>In article <Bzzqx8.CH@exnet.co.uk> s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes:
>>In article <BzuGu9.IF5@agora.rain.com> taurus@agora.rain.com (Scott Burch) writes:
>>>I was reading a book recently that stated that there was some biblical
>>>scripture that mentioned the posibliity of David being gay.  Does anyone
>>>know of any gay bible characters, or support for the theory that David was
>>>gay.  I would be interested in any leads that I can get.  
 
Paul the apostle - check out Vidal's new book, but it's been elsewhere
said, too.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:10:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.193258.17967@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com
(Steve Dyer) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.105324.25237@macc.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>Dworkin has no real power; Pat Robertson does.

>Dwokin, in cahoots with Catherine MacKinnon, has had a much greater
>effect in legal and civil rights circles than Robertson ever had.

It's my impression that MacKinnon would be the power member
of that duo.  She is certainly the arch-enemy of the 1st
Amendment (has lots of company, of course, including Pat
Robertson, I suppose).

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values <---------]
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Text of the Colorado amendment?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:29:56 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

Could someone who has the text of the Colorado "anti-gay" amendment send
it to me?  And please, don't not send it, thinking someone else will.  I'd
rather get 10 copies than none.

Thanks,
Daniel Welch
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher)
Subject: Re: Homos in the bible
Keywords: bible
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:39:00 GMT

In article <BzuGu9.IF5@agora.rain.com> taurus@agora.rain.com (Scott Burch) writes:
>I was reading a book recently that stated that there was some biblical
>scripture that mentioned the posibliity of David being gay.  Does anyone
>know of any gay bible characters, or support for the theory that David was
>gay.  I would be interested in any leads that I can get.  

>****** Practice random senseless acts of kindness ******


Jesus was, ofcourse, gay.  Afterall what would *you* do with 12 men
of your own choice in a desert for three years?

Indeed, which 12 men would you choose?  Lets see...

Xave.



-- 
** Xavier Gallagher                        ***********************************
** Genius, Plumber & Madman                ******* s0xjg@exnet.co.uk ********* 
** Part time Dark OverLord Of The Universe ***********************************
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: penis size (was Re: Muffin on Parade)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:33:55 GMT

In article <C07wvL.M31@agora.rain.com> bburns@agora.rain.com (Barry Burns) writes:
>however I don't think that having Steve Dyer and
>yourself advising him of your perceptions of his psyche as determined by 
>one post as being very productive(or safe - or supportive).

I made an offhand comment, and Brent went nuts.  I gave him my perceptions
of what he wrote in response, not his psyche.  If he wanted to give a different
impression, he should have chosen his response more carefully.  I think he's
very hung up on dick size in a way that most people aren't, which may be
explainable because of his own self-consciousness about his own body, but
I'll be damned if he gets to use this as an, er, club to beat up other people
for their own curiosity.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer