HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jfarmer@cs.utk.edu (JOHN FARMER)
Newsgroups: tn.talk
Subject: Re: HMMMMM....
Date: 26 Jan 1993 12:05:21 -0500
Organization: CS Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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In article <26JAN199310532217@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>In article <mac.160@ur.utk.edu>, mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald) writes...
>>Good Lord, has everyone lost their net access or something?
>> 
>>Who created this newsgroup?  Everybody die, or what?
>> 
>
>shhhhhh!  You'll wake the dead.
>
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>| Elliott Mitchell.Peabody College.Vanderbilt University
>|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
>|  IN: mitcheec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu | BN: MITCHEEC@VUCTRVAX



Who you calling dead????

We're just hiberatin' for the winter.  Waitin' for all them #$%$%
stupid tourists that are lookin' for snow to leave and go north.
Way north, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay north.

John T.

-- 
John T. Farmer, Jr.					jfarmer@cs.utk.edu
Full-time Daddy, Part-time Grad Student,
Full-time wage slave, Wood butcher when I can.
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From: mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald)
Subject: Re: HMMMMM....
Organization: University of Tennessee 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:05:59 GMT

In article <1k3r0hINNk7h@duncan.cs.utk.edu> jfarmer@cs.utk.edu (JOHN FARMER) writes:

>In article <26JAN199310532217@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>>In article <mac.160@ur.utk.edu>, mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald) writes...
>>>Good Lord, has everyone lost their net access or something?
>>> 
>>>Who created this newsgroup?  Everybody die, or what?
>>> 
>>
>>shhhhhh!  You'll wake the dead.
>>
>
>Who you calling dead????

>We're just hiberatin' for the winter.  Waitin' for all them #$%$%
>stupid tourists that are lookin' for snow to leave and go north.
>Way north, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay north.

>John T.

I just got back from a fishing stint in the Keys.  I thought all them thar
Yanquis were down there (them and the Canadians).

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From: mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell)
Subject: Re: HMMMMM....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:53:00 GMT

In article <mac.160@ur.utk.edu>, mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald) writes...
>Good Lord, has everyone lost their net access or something?
> 
>Who created this newsgroup?  Everybody die, or what?
> 

shhhhhh!  You'll wake the dead.

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| Elliott Mitchell.Peabody College.Vanderbilt University
|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
|  IN: mitcheec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu | BN: MITCHEEC@VUCTRVAX
From: wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: PC 80486
Keywords: microcomputer microprocessor Intel 486
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:20:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


	I believe that the 486SX does not have a functioning floating point
processor.  I have heard that it is there, but it is disabled.

Bill Pearson
Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: wnelson@cmgm.stanford.edu (Will Nelson)
Subject: problem with blast
Keywords: blastn
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:14:58 GMT

I have been having a problem with blastn.
The problem is that on successive invocations of blastn,
I get different results, using the same input sequence.

My input file is this:


>DROSATA - LOCUS       DROSATA       254 bp ds-DNA             INV       15-MAR-1989
canatttgcaaatttaatgaaccccccttcaaaaaatgcgaaaattaacgcaaaaattgatttccctaaa
tccttcaaaaagtaaataacaactttttggcaaaatctgattccctaatttcggtcattaaataatcagt
ttttttgccacaactttaaaaataattgtctgaatatggaatgtcatacctcgcnnagctngtaattaaa
tttccaatgaaactgtgttcaacaatgaaaattacatttttcgg

Here is the beginning of the output of diff of the blast results:


1,4c1,2
< Script started on Thu Jan 21 14:57:54 1993
< cmgm.stanford.edu%<1>which script
< /usr/ucb/script
< cmgm.stanford.edu%<2>bl  which blast
---
> Script started on Thu Jan 21 15:00:08 1993
> cmgm.stanford.edu%<1>which blast
6c4
< cmgm.stanford.edu%<3>blast
---
> cmgm.stanford.edu%<2>blast
60,69c58,67
< DROSATA   drosophila 1.688 g/ml satellite repeating unit.     1252  4.0e-97   1
< DRO16883C D.melanogaster untranscribed DNA 1688-3C             459  1.6e-39   2
< DROREP1   Repetitive DNA from Drosophila satellite fracti...   567  1.7e-38   1
< DROSATB   drosophila 1.688 g/ml satellite repeating unit.      567  1.7e-38   1
< DRO1688ED D.melanogaster untranscribed DNA 1688-10Ed           490  7.0e-32   1
< DRO1688EP D.melanogaster untranscribed DNA 1688-10Ep           466  7.8e-30   1
< DROSAT353 D.melanogaster 1.688 g/ml satellite DNA sequence.    438  1.9e-27   1
< DROARS413 d. melanogaster autonomous replication sequence...   355  2.0e-20   1
< DROARS410 d. melanogaster autonomous replication sequence...   350  5.3e-20   1
< DRODMRA   D.melanogaster dispersed middle repetitive DNA ...   255  6.5e-20   2
---
> DROSATA   drosophila 1.688 g/ml satellite repeating unit.     1234  1.3e-95   1
> DRO16883C D.melanogaster untranscribed DNA 1688-3C             450  5.4e-38   2
> DROREP1   Repetitive DNA from Drosophila satellite fracti...   558  1.0e-37   1
> DROSATB   drosophila 1.688 g/ml satellite repeating unit.      558  1.0e-37   1
> DRO1688ED D.melanogaster untranscribed DNA 1688-10Ed           481  4.1e-31   1
> DRO1688EP D.melanogaster untranscribed DNA 1688-10Ep           457  4.5e-29   1
> DROSAT353 D.melanogaster 1.688 g/ml satellite DNA sequence.    429  1.1e-26   1
> DRODMRA   D.melanogaster dispersed middle repetitive DNA ...   246  6.5e-20   2
> DROARS413 d. melanogaster autonomous replication sequence...   346  1.2e-19   1
> DROARS410 d. melanogaster autonomous replication sequence...   341  3.1e-19   1
71c69
< DRODMRC   D.melanogaster dispersed middle repetitive DNA ...   213  6.8e-17   2

Has anyone else seen anything like this?
--
Will Nelson
Computer Resource Administrator
The Beckman Center at Stanford
will@cmgm.stanford.edu
From: penniston@MAYO.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Re: PC80486
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:00:15 GMT
Distribution: bionet


!In article <1993Jan25.090410.12066@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, 
!schnorr@tournesol.versailles.inra.fr (Kirk Schnorr) writes:
!|> I was wondering if anyone out there could inform me about the relative
!|> differences between the various flavors of 486 CPU chips in PC
!|> computers.  We are about to buy a new system for data aquisition and
!|> proccessing for our HPLC to replace our slow and failing HP Vectra 286.
!|> 	We were thinking to get a 486SX based machine since it is the
!|> cheapest but I do not want to sacrifice a built in  math co-proccessor
!|> or 32 bit data path it the 486SX is missing these.  Can anyone enlighten
!|> me?

!My understanding of the various members of the Intel 80386 and 80486 families 
!are as follows:
!
!Chip		Internal	External	Floating
!Designation	Data Path	Data Path	Point Unit?
!-----------	---------	---------	-----------
!386DX		32 bits		32 bits		No
!386SX		32 bits		16 bits		No
!
!486DX		32 bits		32 bits		Yes
!486SX		32 bits		16 bits		Yes
!
!Please note that Intel uses the "SX" designation to denote the narrower 
!external data path, NOT the presence or absence of a math coprocessor.


	I don't think this is quite right, since Intel has used their chip
names in a rather confusing way recently.  As I understand it, the correct
table should read as follows:

Chip		Internal	External	Floating
Designation	Data Path	Data Path	Point Unit?
-----------	---------	---------	-----------
386DX		32 bits		32 bits		No
386SX		32 bits		16 bits		No

486DX		32 bits		32 bits		Yes
486SX		32 bits		32 bits		No

	As you can see, Intel changed the meaning of "SX" between the 386
and 486 chips.

			John Penniston
			Biochem. & Mol. Biol.
			Mayo Clinic
			Penniston@mayo.edu
From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Computerized lab notebook?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:47:00 GMT
Followup-To: bionet.software
Distribution: bionet
Organization: NYU Chemistry Dept.

In article <1993Jan22.175120.23156@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk
(Tony Travis) wrote:
> 
> In article <93122162041.MIN-LDGBa29809.bionet-news@uk.ac.daresbury> you wrote:
> : [...lab notebook stuff]
> : 3.  No one has mentioned published encrypted summary data.  Somewhere
> : I read about (but have not personally seen) services which take any
> : data file and produce from a large file a small "signature" which
> : is published in the classified section of a microfilmed newspaper.
> : Experts will testify that it is essentially impossible to produce
> : a file which matches the signature and is not the original.  
> 
> Am I totally misunderstanding what you say, or are you just describing
> the function of CRC's ??  The combination a file's length in bytes and
> its 32-bit CRC (cyclic redundancy check) is virtually unique and serves
> to validate many software packages.  This, in essence, is no different
> to validating experimental records as original.

The purpose of the newspaper classified ads containing these signature
numbers is to be able to prove in court that a file containing the data
existed prior to the date of publication of the newspaper.  A simple
CRC would not be adequate because alterations of the data would be
feasible:  if you want to change one number somewhere in your file,
you just need to find out a compensating change somewhere else that
gives the same CRC.  The encrypted signature function makes this
essentially
impossible.  This answers the objection to computerized lab notebooks
which asserts that they can be altered after the fact undetectably.

> 
> : What is needed to make computerized lab notebooks feasible
> : is a similar service on the internet (maybe BioSci could offer it)
> : where "signature" files could be publically posted and permantly
> : archived in such a way that they could not be modified without
> : the cooperation of many people (and no one could be certain that
> : someone else didn't keep another copy somewhere).  E.G. create
> : a newsgroup for these files, and let anyone who wants to archive
> : it.
> 
> What is needed to make data accessible is ISDN!!

I was addressing the validation problem, not the accessibility problem.
But ISDN (or better, fiber optics carrying cable TV and internet service
to each home) would help.

[...]
--
Edward J. Huff   huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu   (212)998-8465
Keck Laboratory for Biomolecular Imaging
NYU Chemistry Deptartment, 31 Washington Place, New York NY 10003
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From: kramer@oj.rsmas.miami.edu (Jack Kramer)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: ARCHIE and Gopher
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:04:16 GMT
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS


Is there any way to do an ARCHIE type search to locate things while
connected to a Gopher hole?

jack
From: mangalam@SALK-SC2.SDSC.EDU (Harry Mangalam)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re:80486 Nonsense
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:06:08 GMT
Distribution: bionet

>Hi,
>
>Does anyone have reference or empiric benchmarks for motherboards 
>equipped with Cyrix 486SLC- processor? There is one cheap solution for a
>486- system compared to Intel. The question follows: 
>what does one give up in kicks for those decreased bucks?


   According to the Dec 1992 Byte which reviews almost all of the Intel
Versions and clones, the Cyrix 486SLC is only slighly faster than the AMD
386SXL of the same speed.  A much better deal would be the AMD 386 40 MHz
which (if you added the compatible math chip) by their benchmarks runs
about the same speed as an i486/33MHz. 
Cheers,
Harry

Harry Mangalam                                   Vox:(619) 453-4100, x250
Dept of Biocomputing                                   Fax:(619) 552-1546
The Salk Institute                        1'   mangalam@salk-sc2.sdsc.edu
10010 N Torrey Pines Rd                   2'        hjm@salk-sgi.sdsc.edu
La Jolla CA 92037                         3'         mangalam@salk.bitnet
From: Fuchs@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Rainer Fuchs)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: BLOCKS searches on Mac (MacPattern update)
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:02:43 GMT
Followup-To: bionet.software
Organization: EMBL Data Library

A format change of Steven and Jorja Henikoff's BLOCKS database required an
update to the Apple Macintosh program MacPattern. The new version v2.1 will
work with release 5 and 6 (and hopefully later ones) of BLOCKS.

MacPattern is a Mac program for the functional analysis of new protein
sequences. These can be analysed for the occurrences of PROSITE patterns or
similarities to protein blocks taken from the BLOCKS database, as well as
for statistically significant sequence segments.

A copy can be obtained from ftp.embl-heidelberg.de
(/ftp/software/mac/macpattern.hqx) or by email from
netserv@embl-heidelberg.de (get mac_software:macpattern.hqx).

Rainer Fuchs
EMBL Data Library
Fuchs@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
From: RISLER@FRCGM51.EARN
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Fourier transform on the Mac
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:29:00 GMT
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Distribution: bionet
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 Dear colleagues,
 
 A friend of mine would like to get a program FOR THE MAC which would enable
 her to compute *one dimensional* Fourier transforms (sequence analyses).
 
 Could you help her?
 
 Thank you,
 
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From: theiss@CSHL.ORG (Bobbie Peters in Computer Center - CSHL)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Looking for PC programs
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:54:37 GMT
Distribution: bionet


With Gopher I have found it easy to find MAC programs, both Molbio and 
otherwise. Can anyone point me to a gopherhole with PC programs? 
Especially molecular biology programs. 

Thanks
Bobbie Peters
User Liaison

 v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v
  Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory		 Voice:	(516) 367-8390
  Box 100         			   Fax: (516) 367-9576
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  Cold Spring Harbor, NY  11724-2213, USA	  (or theiss@...)
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From: anadeem@ampere.alt.graphics.pixutils (Ahmed Nadeem)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Image Detection And Segmentation Using Khoros And PV-WAVE Software
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:25:05 GMT
Distribution: bionet.software
Organization: /home/ampere1/anadeem/.organization

Netters,
        I am currently working on a research project that involves generating
solid or geometric models from MRI images. Part of the procedure will require 
me to possibly perform Thresholding & Edge Detection on my MRI images in order
to find out which pixels lie on boundaries between two different regions. 
Thus, I would like to have an Image Processing Software package that has good 
Edge Detection and Classification ( Segmentation ) modules/routines.  
        I have heard a lot about Khoros ( University Of New Mexico) and 
PV-WAVE (Precision Visuals) and was curious if other professionals or students
had any experience on how good they are for the above purposes. Suggestions 
on other software packages are also much welcome.
                                                       Thanks,
                                                              Ahmed Nadeem
Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: warrenk@cix.compulink.co.uk (Warren Kovach)
Subject: EPA PD software
Reply-To: warrenk@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:13:00 +0000

I've recently seen a number of programs listed in a shareware catalog
that were produced for the Environmental Protection Agency by Purdue
University and that are shareware.  They seem to be information and
education programs, covering topics such as septic waste disposal,
water conservation, soil eroision, wetlands education, etc.

Does anyone know of an FTP site that carries these programs?

Thanks.
--
Dr. Warren L. Kovach              Internet: warrenk@cix.compulink.co.uk
Kovach Computing Services                       CompuServe: 100016,2265
85 Nant-y-Felin                           
Pentraeth, Anglesey, Wales LL75 8UY U.K.   
--
Dr. Warren L. Kovach              Internet: warrenk@cix.compulink.co.uk
Kovach Computing Services                       CompuServe: 100016,2265
85 Nant-y-Felin                           
Pentraeth, Anglesey, Wales LL75 8UY U.K.
From: anadeem@ampere.alt.graphics.pixutils (Ahmed Nadeem)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Edge Detection And Segmentation Using Khoros And PV-WAVE
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:14:03 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: /home/ampere1/anadeem/.organization

Netters,
        I am currently working on a research project that involves generating
solid or geometric models from MRI images. Part of the procedure will require 
me to possibly perform Thresholding & Edge Detection on my MRI images in order
to find out which pixels lie on boundaries between two different regions. 
Thus, I would like to have an Image Processing Software package that has good 
Edge Detection and Classification ( Segmentation ) modules/routines.  
        I have heard a lot about Khoros ( University Of New Mexico) and 
PV-WAVE (Precision Visuals) and was curious if other professionals or students
had any experience on how good they are for the above purposes. Suggestions 
on other software packages are also much welcome.
                                                       Thanks,
                                                              Ahmed Nadeem
From: schnorr@tournesol.versailles.inra.fr (Kirk Schnorr)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: PC 80486
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:02:19 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Original-To: bio-software@uk.ac.daresbury
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                   tournesol.versailles.inra.fr, Mon, 25 Jan 93 10: 02:19 +0100

I was wondering if anyone out there could inform me about the relative
differences between the various flavors of 486 CPU chips in PC
computers.  We are about to buy a new system for data aquisition and
proccessing for our HPLC to replace our slow and failing HP Vectra 286.
	We were thinking to get a 486SX based machine since it is the
cheapest but I do not want to sacrifice a built in  math co-proccessor
or 32 bit data path it the 486SX is missing these.  Can anyone enlighten
me?

Kirk Schnorr
From: BIONET@FRCGM51.EARN
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Postscript on the screen
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:58:00 GMT
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>
        Dear fellow netters,
 
        A couple of weeks ago, I asked for a program which would enable to
 display postscript files on a Mac. There has been a number of answers, most
 of them pointing to "Ghostscript". Here is an extract of one of them:
 
>
> There is also a version of Ghostscript for the mac which may allow you
> to display postscript (I've never used Ghostscript on the mac - just
> on Unix boxes).  You can ftp Ghostscript for the mac from
> sumex-aim.Stanford.EDUin the info-mac/util directory (or via gopher).
> The payware products Canvas 3.0 and TScript allow viewing PostScript
> files on the Mac.
>
        We have ftp'ed Ghoscript as indicated. It worked fine immediately. I
 therefore recommend it to all those who were also interested.
 
        Thanks to all of you, and particularly to D. Jacobson, D. Gilbert and
 H. Mangalam.
 
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   |  Jean-Loup Risler                |                        |
   | Centre de Genetique Moleculaire  |  risler@frcgm51.bitnet |
   | 91190  Gif sur Yvette  France    |                        |
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From: pablo@acsu.buffalo.edu (Juan P. Abonia)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: PC 80486
Keywords: microcomputer microprocessor Intel 486
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:07:09 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan25.170138.10928@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu> ken@oscar.welch.jhu.edu (Ken Fasman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.090410.12066@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, schnorr@tournesol.versailles.inra.fr (Kirk Schnorr) writes:
>|> 	We were thinking to get a 486SX based machine since it is the
>|> cheapest but I do not want to sacrifice a built in  math co-proccessor
>|> or 32 bit data path it the 486SX is missing these.  Can anyone enlighten
>|> me?
>
>My understanding of the various members of the Intel 80386 and 80486 families 
>are as follows:
>
>Chip		Internal	External	Floating
>Designation	Data Path	Data Path	Point Unit?
>-----------	---------	---------	-----------
>386DX		32 bits		32 bits		No
>386SX		32 bits		16 bits		No
>
>486DX		32 bits		32 bits		Yes
>486SX		32 bits		16 bits		Yes
>
>Please note that Intel uses the "SX" designation to denote the narrower 
>external data path, NOT the presence or absence of a math coprocessor.

This isn't always true.  The 486SX has a disabled floating point unit.  The
upgrade chips (Overdrive) for these machines disable the original CPU when they
are installed (They have an enabled FPU).  I believe that the 486SX retains a
32-bit external data path.
-- 
J. Pablo Abonia
University at Buffalo				 BITNET:    pablo@sunybcs.BITNET
Roswell Park Cancer Institute			 Internet:  pablo@cs.Buffalo.EDU