HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: doug@eng.umd.edu (Douglas N. Cohen)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11,dc.forsale,misc.forsale,dc.general
Subject: ecclectic stuff for sale and free....
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:37:21 GMT
Organization: hah!  we don't need no steenkin' organization!
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Summary: -=-=-=-< i've got to get rid of this stuff >-=-=-=-
Keywords: -=-=-=-< make me an offer... >-=-=-=-
Cc: doug@lpf.umd.edu


	-=-=-=-< i've got a few things to get rid of. >-=-=-=- 

	~30 lbs of manuals and documentation for pdp11/23s, and 11/34s,
as well as some peripherals.  these, i will give away to anyone who wishes
to pick them up or arrange for their shipping.  
	i have a couple of decwriters and decprinters i will let go for
almost any reasonble offer.  again, you come get it!
	i have a few dotmatrix printers, various configurations....  write
back for details.... again... you make the arrangements in most cases.
	2 t300 (316Meg -removable media) hard drives (480# 'washing machine'
types....) specs available.... i *cannot* ship these... no reasonable offer
refused.
	a plessy peripherals expansion box (no boards.... all gone!) with
supply - rack mount) in great condition.  write for details.  borders on
too heavy to send, but can negotiate this.
	i have at least three tektronix terminals, two on stands, one with a
graphics box attached... will not ship, negotiable on price, at least three
different models.
	1 tu10 9 track tape drive, rackmount, all powersupplies and boards
(too heavy to ship) was working when removed from system.... make a reasonable
offer and come get it.
	1 compu-pro 8/16 cpm computer, no keyboard or monitor (but i will
provide a terminal for interface for small charge), modem card (2400) extra
memory cards, dual dsdd 8" floppy drive, tons of software and extra disks,
manuals and cables, works well, ready to go.  negotiable ~$500.00 including
terminal interface + shipping (probably 3 boxes).
	1 tape drive, 3 terminals, 2 modems (2400) various cables, tektronix
scope plug-ins and carts, a commodor 128 system with software but no monitor,
various electronics, printers covers (an-echoic boxes with cooling fans).  
all negotiable for sale or trade, and some for free.
	if you backed up a truck to my garage, and brought some cash, you could
probably take pretty much what ever you wanted for less than you might
imagine!
	what i would trade for is NeXT hardware, harddrives (scsi I or II),
boxes to mount drives in, scsi back-up tapedrives.  musical instruments 
(ie., guitars, synths., etc. amps) stereo equipment, vcrs, video-cams,
ski equipment....  make me an offer.... you never know....
        and, as always, i am/at:

             doug:  < doug@eng.umd.edu > : < doug@lpf.umd.edu >

           -=-=-=-=-=-=-< a ghost in the machine >--=-=-=-=-=-=-

           "it's a sin that somehow, light is changing to shadow,
              and casting it's shroud over all we have known!
       unaware how the ranks have grown, driven on by a heart of stone,
        we could find that we're all alone in the dream of the proud."

                                    pink floyd:  on the turning away
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From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: Emulex doc's
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:35:00 GMT

In article <727656541.150000.WILSON@ULLA.FORNAX.COM>, wilson@ulla.fornax.com (John Wilson) writes...
>Speaking of RM03's (real ones), does anyone know how to align
>one?  I assume I need an alignment pack with magical qualities,
>or at least with a price which suggests that it MUST have
>magical qualities?  OR does anyone have a working one for sale, cheap?

	You also need some kind of exerciser, (mainly to select the head
	you have to align,) an adapter to bring out the test signal, and you
	also need a special tool to adjust the heads.

	Then, (at least in my case,) you do it so infrequently that it takes
	a day or two of diddling to remember just how to do it.

	All in all, a >lot< more expensive than doing it for an RK05.

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       George Halas had two heirs; one
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      carried his seed and one carried his
  Center for Radiation Therapy   | |_) _   soul. ... One can imagine the wisper
    "Birthplace of Softball"       | \|_)  of George Halas, rooting for his
Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu   |_)  soul. - Jeannie Morris
Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
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Subject: Remove from Mailing list
From: <daffy@physics.monash.edu.au>
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:50:33 +1100
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As I unfortunately have had to give away my pdp (sob!), could I please be
removed from the mailing list.

Thanks,
Davyd Norris.
daffy@physics.monash.edu.au
From: aahvdl@eye.psych.umn.edu (Andrew Luebker)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: MIPS
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:14:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet
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I noticed a little chart in the DECdirect catalog, under PDP-11 Upgrades.
It lists the VAX-11/780 equivalents for various PDP machines.  Can anybody
guess how these numbers were computed?  And why is the PDP-11/23 listed
twice (.05 and .12 MIPS) while the 11/23+ has a bigger (.18) rating?
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Emulex doc's
From: John Wilson <wilson@ulla.fornax.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:49:01 +0200 (MET)
Organization: The Internet
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Emulex has a fantastic attitude about doc's on old boards.
I called them last spring just to ask if the manual for my SC12
was still in print;  they said they'd check and call me back.
They never called but a couple of days later the manual came
in the mail, free of charge!

Speaking of RM03's (real ones), does anyone know how to align
one?  I assume I need an alignment pack with magical qualities,
or at least with a price which suggests that it MUST have
magical qualities?  OR does anyone have a working one for sale, cheap?

John Wilson
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman)
Subject: Re: MIPS
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:49:06 GMT

"Andrew Luebker" <aahvdl@eye.psych.umn.edu> writes:

>I noticed a little chart in the DECdirect catalog, under PDP-11 Upgrades.
>It lists the VAX-11/780 equivalents for various PDP machines.  Can anybody
>guess how these numbers were computed?  And why is the PDP-11/23 listed
>twice (.05 and .12 MIPS) while the 11/23+ has a bigger (.18) rating?

If you wouldn't mind typing it in, I'd appreciate seeing that little
chart, and wonder if others do also.
From: tomk@pyton.csd.uu.se (Tom F Karlsson)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: reading RX50 disks on PC
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:59:34
Organization: Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden.
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In-reply-to: v882246@morrien.si.hhs.nl's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:37:58 +0100 (MET)

In article <9301250737.AA29270@morrien.si.hhs.nl> v882246@morrien.si.hhs.nl writes:

>  to put it on the machine... (Anyone have know the location of a KERMIT
>  for the PRO?)

Try ftp.funet.fi, they have kermit sources for lots of OSs. The one you need
is the one for RT-11 or RSX-11M+ (depending on what OS you run on your Pro).

/Tom
--
|  Tom Karlsson    email: tomk@meryl.csd.uu.se    phone: +46 18 260097  |
|  student of computer science @ Uppsala University, Sweden             |
|                                                                       |
| "At least it's something, said the mosquito and pissed in the sea..." |
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry)
Subject: Re: [11/23] Please identify this board
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:40:19 GMT

zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

>Yep. 16 KW ( 32 KB ) Almost certainly 18 bit.

	16 address bits gives you up to 64kb, 18 bits gives you up to
	256kb.  22 bits gives you 4mb.

>( 22 bit addressing ). Virtualy ever 11/23 had 22-bit except a few very rare
>rev C boards. Not that a certain company would admit to it mind.

Actually, the 11/23 (KDF11-A rev.a) was only 18-bit addressing due to the
fact that the extra four address lines terminated on-board.  The KDF11-A
rev.c actually brought them out to the fingers, providing full 22-bit
functionality.  The 11/23plus (KDF11-B) always provided 22-bit support.
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: [11/23] Please identify this board
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:19:27 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

In article <1993Jan22.205405.2341@cc.gatech.edu>, gregh@cc.gatech.edu (Greg Hankins) writes:
> I've just received this pdp-11/23, and I'm in the process of figuring out
> what all the boards in it are.  I have all of the DEC handbooks, so I've
> identified all the DEC boards, but there are 2 of these boards that I
> can't identify.
> 
> These boards are double slot size, with white "tabs" on the end of them.
> On those tabs are black "W" looking things, or it could be a "3".  The end
> towards the bus connectors has 2 things stamped on it, "MSC 4601", and
> "303-0171", and also a serial number of some sort.  On the other end,
> there is a very heavy 4x8 array of Motorola MCM4116AC25 socketed chips.
> 
> I think that this can only be a memory board...?  It has no I/O connectors
> of any kind.

Yep. 16 KW ( 32 KB ) Almost certainly 18 bit. See if you can get >256K boards
( 22 bit addressing ). Virtualy ever 11/23 had 22-bit except a few very rare
rev C boards. Not that a certain company would admit to it mind.

~Paul
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Re: Emulex doc's
Date: 23 Jan 93 13:03:51 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <22JAN199317355431@rover.uchicago.edu>, frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger) writes:
> 	You also need some kind of exerciser, (mainly to select the head
> 	you have to align,) an adapter to bring out the test signal, and you
> 	also need a special tool to adjust the heads.

  It's not that bad. You can substitute a simple program for the exerciser
(see the sample in BASIC-Plus for RSTS/E after my sig), hook the scope up
directly to the read preamps up in the shroud, and use a regular Allen wrench
to loosen/tighten the head bolt. You can wiggle the head back and forth with
the Allen wrench in the head bolt socket.

  I've been able to achieve factory-level tolerances this way in RM05's.

  CAUTION: Be sure to put the head alignment lock pin in the alignment pos-
ition. Crashing an alignment pack is _much_ better than losing a finger in
the drive.

> 	Then, (at least in my case,) you do it so infrequently that it takes
> 	a day or two of diddling to remember just how to do it.

  That's true 8-)

> 	All in all, a >lot< more expensive than doing it for an RK05.

  Ever change a head in an RA60? You just throw 'em in. Each surface has its
own servo. Of course, to reduce head switch time, you can align 'em.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381

10	rem align.bas - quick and dirty head alignment program for RM05's.
20	open "dr3:" as file #1%, recordsize 4096% &
	\ field #1%, 4096% as a$
30	input "Head: ",h%
35	input "Cylinder: ",cyl%
40	h=h%*4% &
	\ on error goto 90
50	b=cyl%*76.
60	get #1%, block b+h
70	input "Next?",a$ &
	\ goto 30
90	print err,erl,h%,b+h &
	\ resume 70
32767	end
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Subject: 11/70 ECC memory problems...
From: Johnny Billquist <bqt@bern.docs.uu.se>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:45:44 MET
Reply-To: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se
Organization: The Internet
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I have an 11/70, with VAX-11/750 1Mb memory cards.
Before anyone points out that I can't have that, let me fill you
in on my stuff.
This machine was previously running at a school, where it worked fine.
The problem is that the memory box controller for the 11/70 only
clears the first 256Kbyte of each memory card. To get the 1Mb cards
to work, a little special extra card has been made, along with some
extra wrapping of the backplane.

Anyway, this memory *do* work, I know that.

My problem now is that since the controller don't zero all the memory,
the high 768Kbyte of each card contains random garbage. This includes
the ECC and parity bits.

The school which had the machine running had their own little code in the
boot program, which did a clear of the rest of the memory.
I could maybe get hold of that code, but that is a long shot, and
will take some time, so I'd like to get in touch with anyone who has
any experience in programming the MJ-11 memory box. I'd just like to
write zeros in the memory, and set the parity and ECC bits correct.
Anyone who has done this before?

	Johnny

Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
CS student at Uppsala University  ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se       ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Subject: Re: 3rd Party Ethernet Cards
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:52:52 GMT

In article <01GTRTY01DIA90QWZ6@bms.com> carter_r@bms.com writes:
>I have 2 PDP-11's that I would like to network into our local ethernet system.
>I received a quote from DEC for a DELQA-M Ethernet 802.3 Adapter of $2,412.!
>GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!  Can anyone recommend an equivalent 3rd party adapter,
>with a presumably more reasonable price?  Please *respond directly* to me as I
>no longer lurk on this list.  Many thanks for your help!
>
>(PDP11/73 and PDP11/93, cabinet mount, Q-bus)
>
>*******************************************************************************

DEQNA's are still usable on PDP-11's.  Used ones go for around $400/each.

-- 
Jerry S. Weiss	  "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the antimatter!"
j-weiss@nwu.edu    Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: compiling 11 code for alpha
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:02:41 GMT

In article <2418@sousa.tay.dec.com>, secrist@msdsws.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.) writes:
> If you want to emulate RSX or RT there are products to do that under 
> VAX/VMS.  If you want to replace RSTS the closest thing I can suggest 
> is the BASIC-PLUS-2 compatible-compiler on RSX or VAX BASIC on VMS.
> 
> Then you get into weird stuff like running the RSX BASIC-PLUS-2 image
> under VMS, or VESTing all associated modules to Alpha/VMS ;-)
> 

On a serious note, has DEC looked at a Macro-11 compiler to complement
the Macro-32 compiler on Alpha?

It would be nice to have a *USEFULL* choice for realtime work.

~Paul

Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: Emulex doc's -> RK05's
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:49:00 GMT

In article <30757@castle.ed.ac.uk>, jlothian@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Lothian) writes...
>On roughly the same subject, does anybody know if it's still
>possible to get hold of the alignment cartridge for an RK05?
>I had to re-align the heads on one of my RK05s a couple of years
>ago, and ended up using an old DEC software master copy, on the
>basis that presumably DEC's heads will be aligned if
>anybody's are. It would be nice to be able to do it properly,
>though. I thought about getting in touch with DEC, but I suspect
>they'd charge an arm and a leg for the alignment cartridge, supposing
>they still make it. If anyone has a second-hand one, I'd be very
>interested in buying it (within reason!).
>
	DEC still lists the item in the electronic store.

	Part # -RK05K-AC	Price $178	Delivery 1-day

	Considering that regular RK05 PDP11 and PDP8 cartridges are $120
	each, doesn't seem high. Also note that you still can by cartridges
	hard-sectored for the PDP-8.

	Anybody want to call up IBM and ask them about 2315 cartridges
	and alignment disks? Might be an interesting comparison.

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       George Halas had two heirs; one
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      carried his seed and one carried his
  Center for Radiation Therapy   | |_) _   soul. ... One can imagine the wisper
    "Birthplace of Softball"       | \|_)  of George Halas, rooting for his
Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu   |_)  soul. - Jeannie Morris
Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455        
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From: zcookbruc@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: <None>
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:52:49 GMT

___________ MAIL STARTS HERE __________
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From: gregh@cc.gatech.edu (Greg Hankins)
Subject: [11/23] Please identify this board
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:54:05 GMT

I've just received this pdp-11/23, and I'm in the process of figuring out
what all the boards in it are.  I have all of the DEC handbooks, so I've
identified all the DEC boards, but there are 2 of these boards that I
can't identify.

These boards are double slot size, with white "tabs" on the end of them.
On those tabs are black "W" looking things, or it could be a "3".  The end
towards the bus connectors has 2 things stamped on it, "MSC 4601", and
"303-0171", and also a serial number of some sort.  On the other end,
there is a very heavy 4x8 array of Motorola MCM4116AC25 socketed chips.

I think that this can only be a memory board...?  It has no I/O connectors
of any kind.

Any hints on what it could be, along with anything else you have to say about
it, would be very appreciated!



Greg

"Oh, what sad times are there  | Greg Hankins 
 when passing ruffians can say | CoC Computer & Networking Support          
 'Ni!' at will to old ladies!" | Georgia Institute of Technology
      - Roger the Shrubber     | email: gregh@cc.gatech.edu
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Subject: Flip Chip (tm)
From: <eric@america.telebit.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 18:30:54 PST
Organization: The Internet
Return-Path: <pat+@transarc.com>

> This foray is generally held to have been successful.  But the first
> products that Digital Equipment Corporation sold were those simple
> circuit boards, which bore the name "Flip Chip".  And for some years
> afterward, even when the boards were used inside a larger product, DEC
> kept the original trade name intact.

As I understand it, after the original "System Modules", they tried to make
encapsulated hybrid modules, which were to be called "Flip Chips", and were
supposed to compete with integrated circuits.  They apparently had a lot of
production problems, and switched to PC boards, but kept the name.
From: carter_r@bms.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: 3rd Party Ethernet Cards
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:47:54 GMT
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I have 2 PDP-11's that I would like to network into our local ethernet system.
I received a quote from DEC for a DELQA-M Ethernet 802.3 Adapter of $2,412.!
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!  Can anyone recommend an equivalent 3rd party adapter,
with a presumably more reasonable price?  Please *respond directly* to me as I
no longer lurk on this list.  Many thanks for your help!

(PDP11/73 and PDP11/93, cabinet mount, Q-bus)

*******************************************************************************
R.B. Carter                                          Internet: Carter_R@bms.com
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Subject: Re: reading RX50 disks on PC
From: "Mike Marak, EMC Lab" <marak@vax2.concordia.ca>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:33 EDT
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Don Levinson (levinson@halcyon.com) wrote:
: does anyone know of a program that will allow me to import data written
: to an RX50 disk by a PDP-11 running RT-11 onto a PC running MS-DOS. I
: would prefer to be able to read the disks directly through the PC's
: floppy drive.
: Thanks for any assistance.
: Don Levinson
: --

  There is a PC program that I grabbed off the net some time ago. It's
called  "RT11.EXE", and does a damn good job. It can read/write RT-11
RX50s in the PC's 1.2MB drive, and also has the added bonus of being
able to format cheap PC diskettes for use in the RX50 drive.
  Sorry, but I can't remember the archive site that I got it from.
Some enterprising soul will have to do an archie search for a site. The
author has the following at the end of the docs:

  This software was produced by Mark Aitchison, Department of Physics,
  University of Canterbury; the software is not public domain, the rights to
  the software are not shared, but you may share the executeable form of the
  program so long as no charge is made and this message is retained.

  If anyone has an archive site, I can ftp it so anyone can grab it.

	Mike
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Subject: Re: reading RX50 disks on PC
From: v882246@morrien.si.hhs.nl
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:37:58 +0100 (MET)
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> Don Levinson (levinson@halcyon.com) wrote:
>
>   There is a PC program that I grabbed off the net some time ago. It's
> called  "RT11.EXE", and does a damn good job. It can read/write RT-11
> RX50s in the PC's 1.2MB drive, and also has the added bonus of being
> able to format cheap PC diskettes for use in the RX50 drive.

Wow! That's really what I need! I FTP'ed sone software for my PRO-380
but I don't have any comms programs for it, so there's no way I'm able
to put it on the machine... (Anyone have know the location of a KERMIT
for the PRO?)

>   Sorry, but I can't remember the archive site that I got it from.

grmbl... :-(

							Bye Arno.

--
+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
|Arno Griffioen     |          UUCP: v882246@si.hhs.nl                        |
|Dragontuin 41      |            or: Arno.Griffioen@p5.f36.n512.z2.fidonet.org|
|2353 PP Leiderdorp |"If a weirdo in a blue suit offers you DOS, just say NO!"|
+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
From: secrist@msdsws.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Emulating 11s; Replacing RSTS
Keywords: 42 rosebud xyzzy
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:13:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


If you want to emulate RSX or RT there are products to do that under 
VAX/VMS.  If you want to replace RSTS the closest thing I can suggest 
is the BASIC-PLUS-2 compatible-compiler on RSX or VAX BASIC on VMS.

Then you get into weird stuff like running the RSX BASIC-PLUS-2 image
under VMS, or VESTing all associated modules to Alpha/VMS ;-)

Regards,
rcs

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