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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Parking law
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:34:38 GMT

In article <1at9agINNrvi@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> keeper@deeptht.armory.com writes:
>
>I don't know of any law newsgroups to add to this...

misc.legal comes to mind.  I would guess, however, that this kind of
problem is governed almost entitely by state and local law, so an answer
from outside your jurisdiction wouldn't do much good.  Try a local tenants'
union or legal aid society. 

>Here's the situation:  I live in a mobile home park, and I recently
>purchased a 50cc motor scooter.  The managers of the park are making
>threatening noises about the rules of the park not allowing two-wheeled
>motor vehicles.  (I did not sign their recent revision of the rules which
>included this, however.)

Notwithstanding what I said above, I'll give some opinions... 

If you haven't signed the agreement, they probably can't force you to get
rid of it.  If you're on a lease, they can't force you to sign the
agreement before the lease expires.  But... if you're on a month to month,
they can change the rules whenever they want with the amount of notice
given in the law or your rental agreement, and kick you out if you won't
sign. 

>When asked "Why?" they reply only "Because it's the rule."  They can't
>make up rules willy-nilly, I expect, can they?

It's their property.  They probably can, subject to what I said above. 

>They are saying that they will have the scooter removed from the park
>grounds (even if it's parked in the proper carport).

That probably depends on the setup to some extent.  If the carport is
attached to the part of the property that you're renting, taking your
property from it might be considering breaking and entering, or theft, or 
(as  P. G. Wodehouse said) barratry or socage in fief or something.  If the
carport is a common area, the situation might be different.  Again,
probably depends on the terms of the lease.  

Your case would probably be strengthened if you could show that you had the
scooter before the new rule was put in, or that other vehicles are noisier
than yours.  

You really need to talk to someone who does this for a living.  Decide whether 
you want to fight them, and if you do, find a local tenants' group or a 
lawyer, or both.  Sometimes a nice stiff letter from an attorney will have
a salutory effect on landlords. 


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From: czw70@ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: REQUEST: moto rental on East Coast
Keywords: bike rental east coast usa
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:49:36 GMT
Reply-To: czw70@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Organization: Amdahl UK


I have a request from a friend of mine who is travelling to the East side
of the USA in October.  Her husband, who holds a full UK motorcycle licence,
would like to hire a bike for part/all of the trip.  They are flying into
Washington, DC on the 10th October and are going to make their way down to
Florida and back over the course of three weeks.

I have checked out the list of bike- hirers and there are two East coast
addresses:

Highway One, Inc. Motorcycle Touring and Rental
796 Brighton Avenue, Portland, Maine, 04102
Voice: (207) 772-7186    Fax: (207) 871-9186

Iron Horse Vacations, Inc.
4368 L.B.McLeod rd., Orlando, FL 32811
Voice: (407) 426-7092    Fax: (408) 426-9390

The former rent their bikes out of Florida in the winter, the latter rent
H-Ds out of Florida all year.

OBVIOUS QUESTIONS: has anybody used either of these companies?  Were they any
good?  Did anything go wrong?  How did they respond?  Did they look at a non-
US licence with understanding or bewilderment?  Is there a bike rental
agency in Washington DC?

Please email responses to czw70@juts.ccc.amdahl.com, I will post a summary
of my findings and a report of my friends' trip.

Cheers,
CAW
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  >>>  Charlie Whitfield               czw70@juts.ccc.amdahl.com  <<<
  >>>  Tommies on Tour    -    Sports Touring Without Compromise  <<<
  >>>                                        DoD#0526   ToT#0002  <<<
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:47:02 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs
NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.26.79.24

---
shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
| stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
|>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
|My men wear full-face helmets when they ride, or nothing at all.

Which reminds me.  I was thinking of making a t-shirt to
counter all those images of bikini-babes draped over sport 
bikes that seem to be on all the motorcycle t-shirts.  I can't
decide between these two designs:

    Buff guy wearing nothing but a full-face helmet & a
    condom, next to a sportbike.

    Buff guy wearing a skimpy thong & a full-face helmet,
    holding a condom package, next to a sportbike.

In either case, the slogan would be:

    Ride Safely

(Guess the bike would have to be shaft-drive.)

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cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
'His sexual exploits, we were also told, would apparently make both
Don Juan and de Sade seem grossly overrated, and promotion women
called ahead with breathless descriptions of his magnetism and his
"intellect."' -- Rolling Stone, 12 Sept 74, on Brian Eno
From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:25:26 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:

>In article <marcl.717864030@os-d> marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
>>neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>>
>>>>|This looks very promising for both motorcycle and auto manufacturers.
>>>>|(Harley Davidson, please take note).
>>>>
>>>>Harley?  Two strokes?   HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!
>>
>>>Don't forget the Aermacci's (sp?) True, they were Italian-made, but were sold
>>>as Harleys and H-D owned a major portion of the factory.
>>
>>...and they were 4-strokes, not 2.

>My 165cc 1963 H-D has a measuring cut attached to the inside of the gas cap
>for mixing oil with the fuel.  It has no valves. It doesn't require motor oil
>in the case--only gear oil.  You say that isn't a two stroke?

No, I'm saying that the Harley 250 (Aermacci) was a 4-stroke, it being the
most commonly seen Harley-that-isn't-a-Harley...
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From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: passing on the right (was: Stupid BIKE
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:57:37 GMT

In article <3926@sapwdf.UUCP> Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> writes:
>
>  i also can't figure out the american moral majority sometimes.
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                        They are neither.  8^)

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Merry Land (MD) U.S.A. | (Bike) 1986 GSXR750    (sold)   |     ClarksBURG
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From: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck)
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency (was Re: More gasoh
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:33:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.181808.571@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.185436.23519@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson) writes:
>> In <1a74a4INNhqh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel 
>> Cruncher) writes:
>>>In article 558@halfdome.sf.ca.us, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>>>> lenin argued that capitalism
>>>>initially would promote innovation in the pursuit of efficiency but
>>>>that once a technology became entrenched (i.e. part of the means of
>>>>production) it would behoove the owners thereof to eliminate buy up
>>>>and/or destroy competing technologies. 
>> 
>>>Yeah, well, Lenin missed the boat on a whole bunch of political and
>>>social science.
>> 
>> Funny how Chrysler were doing so well with a test fleet of highly fuel 
>> efficient gas turbine engined cars yet the development was stopped after the 
>> Rockerfellers had suddenly decided to buy a large stake in Chrysler.
>
>and how the trains magically disappeared from southern pacific when 
>ford bought decided to go into the RR biz.

And GM tried to kill public transportation by buying up the major
trolley car, train, and bus companies (ever wonder why the trolly cars disappeared
from Detroit??) GM now makes all the locomotives, and used to make all the buses
(high quality ones at that, some with more than a million miles on them).

-Dan
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:46:12 GMT

jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <92Oct02.155958.14896@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:

>>>> How far does the average Denizen commute?

>>6 blocks.
>>I walk.
>>But I walk with *attitude*

>Yes, but do you wear a full faced helmet?

And leathers? (Optionally, Aerostich)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Vultures landing on Ed? (was Re: Crosswinds)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:50:15 GMT

kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.053114.7091@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>] Hah! A chance to tie this into that other circular topic (besides beer),
>] Lance Holst. If I recall correctly, The Jerk (tm) ruined a perfectly
>] good helmet on a vulture last year. Either the bird mistook him for a
>] corpse, or it didn't care for his writing style. It was a noble attempt,
>] but the the score was Holst 1, Bird 0.

>Wasn't it Ienatsch (sp?)

Nope, it was Holst. The Last Page (tm), Motorcyclist, Sept. 1991. The
bird is officially termed a "buzzard", and impact was at 136 mph. The
buzzard was eating roadkill, Holst spooked it, and it flew up and
clobbered him. The cause of the accident was claimed to be Buzzard
Error. I'm not sure if the buzzard in error was the bird or Holst.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A different BMW question - tires
Keywords: BMW tires tyres Pirelli
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:20:40 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa

In article <1992Sep24.191908.23385@emr1.emr.ca> spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler) writes:
>I have just been fortunate enough to acquire a used '91 K75RT
>(in a stunning metallic crimson, with ... sorry, can't help myself)
>
>This is a tire question.  The tires on the bike are Pirelli Sportster (?)
>Phantoms.  On my regular commute to work (80 - 90 km/h along
>nice twisty roads) I have found that the tires are letting go
>of the road on the occasional corner.

Shit! Are they *still* oem'ing those crappy tires. Both my BMWs came with
those tires and I was amazed at the combination of short life and low
traction. Usually you get at least one. Anyways, In the last 130,000km
I've tried a fair number of tires. My verdict is clear:
	Mezteler ME88 rear
				ME33 front

I figure if I can scrape my pegs with these tires and camping gear on the
Blue Ridge Parkway, they're good enough for me. And they last about twice as
far as ME55s or ME99s. About three times longer than my Pirellis.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Make Your Own (was: Re: Electric Vests)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:51:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.094704.25221@hemlock.cray.com> ant@palm21.cray.com (Tony Jones) writes:

>Does anyone on the net have any good/bad info about particular makes of 
>electric vests - Widder, Eclipse, BMW (or others) ?

If you're handy with such things, the latest issue (October??) of
ROAD RIDER magazine (put out by the Gold Wing Road Riders of America)
has a very detailed article by a gentlemen (read Non-DoD'er) who
made his own.  He includes illustrations as well as procedures to
compute how much of what kind of wire you'll need, how to attach
it, and how to regulate it.  Says he saved a lot of money by wiring
up an existing vest.

(didn't mention how long of an extension cord he needs when he rides, tho)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck)
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency (was Re: More gasohol)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:11:24 GMT

In article <dbc-280992171146@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.180337.24713@gecko.uucp>, ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed
>Campbell) wrote:
>> 
> 
>>      Whatever happened to Chrysler's gas turbine project? The last
>> version made public produced more power than a piston engine, was
>> said to be no more expensive to produce in quantity, got better
>> fuel mileage, and would run on anything that pours and burns. Also,
>> with the very low combustion pressure, it produced no NOx. They very
>> publicly demonstrated its multifuel capacity by running it on old frying
>> grease from a fastfood place. (Police cars could be run on grease from
>> the doughnut shops!)
>> 
>
>Didn't they have a problem with the exhaust melting pavement at stop 
>lights?
>
>> Ed Campbell
>> 
>
>| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
No, they had an efficiency problem with respect to the fact that the engine
had to run at almost constant rpm's. In city traffic, this made the car 
pretty expensive
to run.

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From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drinking & Helmets
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:18:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: stafford.Stafford-290992101417
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

> In article <973@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com>, jimwy@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com (Jim Wygralak) writes:
> Has anyone come up with any clever solutions to enable them to
> consume liquid refreshments while suited up?

An I.V. plasma bottle hanging from the sissy bar obviates the
need for oral ingestion.  It has a nice look, too.

(Jack Daniels tends to _burn_ a little, however.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scatlin@bnr.ca (Scot Catlin)
Subject: We are sick and tired!!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:36:02 GMT

        I have been an avid reader, and less avid poster to wreck.moto
for years now, and I have noticed a trend that perhaps others have
noticed.  The responses to technical posts have gotten less technical,
and sometimes down right stupid!!  A fellow worker and I have posted
three technical questions in the last two weeks and gotten one
response.  Perhaps we weren't witty enough, or we didn't use the ascii
faces :-) , or whatever.

        It seems like the number of responses to a post is based on
how much flame material is contained therein, or whether or not a
witty response can be used.

        The fellow co-worker I mentioned earlier just bought his first
motorcycle a few weeks ago, and when I recommended that he subscribe
to rec.moto, he said he had already looked through it, and decided
that there is just too much CRAP to sort through to make it worth his
while.  After a bit of thought, I had to agree that the amount of junk
posting has risen quite a bit since I first discovered the news group.

        Has anyone ever given thought to a new group called
rec.moto.tech?  I know the racing and harley ideas have been
discussed.  How about tech?

        If you have any comments or suggestions, please feel free to
post, or to e-mail us at:


Me              -- woodstock!scatlin@mcnc.org
James Bothwell  -- jbothwel@bnr.ca

        I sure hate to see a news group with such a worthy topic go
down the tubes like it seems to be.

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From: gn@cray.com (Gary L. Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Double  minus 5
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:10:09 GMT
Reply-To: gn@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

Double plus good!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Drinking & Helmets
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:29:52 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

My lady has two kinds of devices. One is a bladder in a fanny pack which as a
long straw.  There is a valve on the end of the straw to close it.  (The one
she has is marketed by Malcom Smith.)  The other is an insulated 32 oz. bottle
with a straw.  When not drinking from it the handle of her tank bag keeps it
in place.  One disadvandage of this item is that the tank bag needs to be
nearly full to effectively hold the jug.

Chas
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:33:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Oct02.183312.4697
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <92Oct02.155958.14896@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>In article <Stafford-011092164827@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>>> 
>>> <HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>>> 
>>>
>>> How far does the average Denizen commute?
>
>6 blocks.
>
>I walk.
>
>But I walk with *attitude*
>
>Charles
>DoD: 0.001

Yes, but do you wear a full faced helmet?
-- 
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jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Aftermaket Seats (or, not the corbin wars!) (was BMW K100rs)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 27 Sep 1992 17:35:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <867@zx11.UUCP>, steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade) wrote:
> 
 
> The back rest on the Rumble is a piece of shit in my opinion.  With my 130lbs
> of mass, the thing flexed and twisted.  The corners stuck into my sides.
> Not what I'd call confidence inspiring.  
> 
So, I suppose my 220 would just beat the shit out of the thing.  Maybe
it's time for me to start riding the bicycle more. :-)

> The comfiest (if that is a real word) seat arround is the Russel DAYLONG,
> looks stupid as hell, but is an innerspring seat.  Everyone gives it rave
> reviews.
> 
I just replaced the foam and cover on my CB with a kit from Travelcade.
It was just a plain UJM's step seat.  But it is comfy.
> 
> Steve
> steve@zx11.cactus.org

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: R100GS; Drive Splines, I DID IT
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:55:44 GMT

ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:

>SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONS TO THE  JOB OF REMOVING THE REAR DRIVE CASE
>IN ORDER TO GREASE THE DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ON R100GS

[285 lines deleted...]

So Ron, is this where I'm not supposed to say "Gee, I sure wish I had
one of those low maintenance shaft drive bikes." ?  :-)

(There's also room in here for a gag about buying a BMW and getting the
shaft, but I'm not gonna touch it.)
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Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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