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From: bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (Bob Cannard @ PCB x5565)
Subject: Re: Brian Lumley Info Request
Originator: bcannard@hppcb36
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:57:43 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: Brian Lumley
Followup-To: 


In article <1992Aug21.200655.24745@ncsu.edu>, dpsharpe@eos.ncsu.edu (DANIEL P SHARPE) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> I would like to get some information on Brian Lumley.  I remember
|> reading in this group an article or two talking about his work.
|> The articles were referring to a series of stories he wrote using
|> a Lovecraftian style.  I can't remember the titles exactly but I
|> remember the name Titius Crow (sp.) was in there someplace.  I have
|> looked in the "also by this author" listings of several of his
|> Necroscope novels but none of the titles seemed familiar.  If anyone
|> knows what I am talking about please email me more information about
|> this series of stories.  Are they hard to find? or out of print?  
|> Am I making all this up?  etc...

I've read "The Burrowers Beneath" which is one of the Titus Crow novels. It's
OK as a Derleth-style pastiche but no comparison with HPL. Brian Lumley also
wrote some Dreamlands-based novels, easily recognisable due to the word
"Dream" in the titles. Not too impressive, sort of teen fantasy stuff. This
stuff was easy to find in England but I don't know about the US.

Brian Lumley excels when he gets out of HPL-imitation-mode and starts doing
his own thing. Necroscope I is a masterpiece, but I found the series getting
a bit much after volume 3 - I'm tired of epics and prefer smaller,
self-contained stories.

"Psychomech" is excellent and a personal favourite, partly because the
characters present a different moral stance to most horror stories. It's
back in paperback now after a hiatus of a few years, and I'm looking
forward to its sequels "Psychosphere" and "Psychamok".

Happy nightmares!
-- 
bob_cannard@mentorg.com         "Human beings? ... Well, I suppose they are a
                                 form of life, even if they are unspeakable"
Exprssed opinions are not necessarily those of Mentor Graphics Corporation.
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From: chuq@gallant.apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: alt.horror,misc.writing
Subject: Re: Horror Magazines
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:56:42 GMT
Organization: I is a writur

frantz@bvc.edu writes:
>	Amazing Stories--TSR, Inc. P.O. box 111 Lake Geneva, WI.  53147

Amazing doesn't publish horror. Kim's using mostly SF with a little fantasy.

Also be aware that other markets that use some horror (or in most cases,
darkish fantasy) aren't reading -- don't bother sending to either Weird
Tales or Pulphouse for the next year. 

-- 
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  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms
	A real SF writur with stories in ALTERNATE KENNEDYS and THE 
	  FURTHER ADVENTURES OF BATMAN, in better bookstores now!
Organization: Junior, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 11:11:03 -0400 
From: Chiara Noelle Sposato <cs65+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: "Forever Knight"
Distribution: usa


Excerpts from netnews.alt.horror: 31-Aug-92 "Forever Knight" John
Sommerville@fermi.c (313)


Has anybody seen this tv show?  It's pretty reminiscent of Fri13:The Series, 
which is not unusual as Fred Mollin does the music for this one as well.

Opinions?

I like it.


yes i have seen it too--actually i think i have seen all the episondes
that they have made so far [i am getting tired of waiting for tuesday
only to find out that it is a repeat ;-( ]. i really hope that are
shooting new episodes--it would be a shame for such a new and good show
to last for only 10 or so episodes. the show is really interesting in
that the character wants to become human and therefore mortal. the
historical references are a great concept--espcially the one when he
thinks back to his relationship with Joan of Arc. i really liked the
friday13 series  too, but it was canceled though some of my local
stations wre showing reruns for a while.

chiara
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The MD
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:46:08 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Aug27.123913.58441@cc.usu.edu>, slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer) writes:
>      Has anyone out there read _The_MD_ by Thomas Disch?  I know he's
> a good writer from his appearances in Fantasy & Science Fiction, but I
> also know a short story and a novel are two different things.  Can
> anyone give me a no-spoiler review?

Excellent book.  More fantasy than horror, but it should appeal to
horror fans (it appealed to this one).

A kid acquires the ability to place curses on people, also the
ability to magically cure diseases. Complications ensue.  You'll
love it.
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From: jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: 2 Good Movies
Date: 31 Aug 1992 05:58:05 GMT
Organization: UCB Space Sciences Lab
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I viewed 2 recent releases to my local video store, "The Pit and the
Pendulum" loosely based on Poe's work, and "The Resurrected" based
on Lovecraft's `The Case of Charles Dexter Ward".  P&P is directed
by Stuart Gordon and released by Full Moon.  Just enough gore and
torture to keep it from being hokey.  The main character is a bit
too much Luke Skywalker, but the femme and villain make up for it.
The Resurrected is an excellent adaptation of CCDW and in my ever-so-
humble-opinion, the best HPL movie yet!  The effects are weak in
several scenes (especially stop-motion), but even though I've read
CCDW several times and this follows it so closely, I was on the edge
of my seat!  IMHO, these are both must-see's, particularly the latter.


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From: st1o4@rosie.uh.edu (Ortiz, Jose)
Subject: Pennywise in Stephen King's _IT_
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:52:00 GMT

If my memory serves me correctly, "it" once said to Beverly
that his name was "Robert Gray."  Does anyone know why that
particular name?  Is it an inside joke?  I'm curious.

--
"M-O-O-N, that spells sigfile, laws, yes!"
From: moon!cyberden!verge@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Hello!
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 21:58:47 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Creatures of the Night:
    The juice is my favorite, the way it comes slow, comes fast. The 
metal salt of it on lips. Slippery. So slippery . . . .
    (Ahem) Before I get carried away--
    Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth (relative) 
and taste (subjective), I'm just a nubie netter soliciting E: Barker, 
Masterton, Pinhead & Company, Lovecraft, Shea, Cooper, Shirley, Vachss 
(for TRUE horror), Dark House "Outer Limits", twisted Japanimation 
(Supernatural Beast City, The Wanderers, Pink Noise), eroto-horror, 
serial-hobbyists, and in Real Life (as opposed to SURREAL life):
    Photos, piercings, tats, S/M, True Crime (The Old Brewery!), writing 
my own, and warped Mac stuff.
    In my power? Send E to Me.


__________________________________________________________________________
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From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dracula - v1.0
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:25:17 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1992Aug26.174348.8528@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, paxton@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> Has anyone out there actually READ Bram Stocker's "Dracula". Following my
> recent query concerning J Harker's escape from D's castle Not one reply came
> from anyone who had read the book, (rather than  comics, films, pop videos
> etc).
> What i did learn was that said material is unsuprisingly very different
> including a play which has Harker as a scion of Dracula with a different wife!
> 
> P.S  On an entirely different and controversial note I reckon S.K's "IT" was
> and inferior ripoff of Bradbury's "Something wicked this way Comes". I'm ready 
> for the flames. :-). 


I'm going to pick up on the Bradbury/King comparison you made there (sans 
flames, of course).  I don't really see similarities (beyond, perhaps, 
Pennywise and the Dark Man).  Somnething Wicked This Way Comes is very much 
a story of a boy and his father.  Yes, there is certainly a lot going on 
with the evil entity which has literally blown into town, but for all of 
that, I really think the story is about the relationship between the boy 
and his father (I'm sorry I can't come up with the names there).  In IT, I 
think there is much more emphasis placed on the group of kids and their 
social ostracism in the town (and later, their compensation for all of that
), but *much, much* more about the evil and the origin of the evil of Derry
.  The theme of the haunted (possessed) town has been used probably since 
the beginning of the genre.  Beyond the town's haunting and some (though 
not many) similarities between Mr. Dark and Pennywise, I don't see It and 
Something Wicked crossing paths much at all.  Where do you see the tell-
tale rip-off signs?

Andrea @ BVC
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Hellraiser III looks a little dodgy....
Date: 30 Aug 1992 09:52:30 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


> I must say that I too am hanging out for HEllraiser 3 and Evil Dead 3
> "The  Army of Darkness". I will be incredibly dissapointed if either
> of these two films are ....... disappointing. I too must say I have
> some bad vibes about Hellraiser 3 after hearing that Barker's
> involvement with the film is very limited. I also read somehwere that
> the guy directing it has [previous credits including Waxworks &
> Sundown (perhaps credit is too strong a word) these films aren't too
> bad but didn't reach Hellraiser 1's epic standards. I think i read
> this in Cinematique. Having said this, Evil Dead 3 looks awesome,
> something to definitely look forward to.
> 

You seem to pretty much share my views on the matter.

Now, the thing is:  I am very poor.  If the third HELLRAISER movie is no
good, I'd rather save my money and be happy with the fond memories of the
first two.  So, WHOEVER GOES TO SEE HELLRAISER III AS SOON AS IT GOES OUT:
post a nice big message saying what you thought of it.  Hell, do a good
spoiler, I'm not one of those who cares if the ending is "ruined", and
anyone who is can skip over your post.

BTW, I suspect it will finally be released on Sept. 14 -- I just saw a TV
ad for it.  The ad looked a little suspect.... the way it was filmed made
it look like a bad horro movie sequel -- maybe just because it all takes
place on earth.  Another bad sign is that they included scenes from 
HELLRAISER II in the commercial for HELLRAISER III... an indication that
there aren't enough good scenes in the new one??
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: <<*NEW HORROR*>>
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:51:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug28.105456.1@husky1.stmarys.ca> gen5060@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
>Come on, Guys! 
>I've been reading alt.horror, and I've heard no mention of some of the newer
>names in horror literature.  Hey...don't get me wrong, I like Stephen King,
>Clive Barker (he is one of my favourites), and the the others also. 
>BUT...I haven't heard anybody mention David J. Schow, or John Skipp and Craig
>Spector, or Richard Christian Matheson, or Joe R. Lansdale.
>If there are fans of these guys out there, I'd be interested in hearing from
>you.
>Chris, the Deathbird

 A while back there was a lot of mention of these authors on here. I don't know
how long you've been reading news but it was a pretty good discussion. There
are surely many people on here who will be very interested in discussing it with
you. As for me, I am still looking for their stuff so I can't say much about
what I've read by them (which is nothing as yet). Have fun!
					Laurel
 
__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
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From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Subject: Re: Shirley Jackson
Originator: jon@cyclone
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:29:22 GMT


In article <1992Aug28.073100.11571@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>, J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at writes:
> I am reading a book by Shirley Jackson "The Lottery", a 1947-compilation of
> short-stories. Not what a lot of you out there would consider to be "real"
> horror, but very irritating and disturbing. The stories are mostly about
> loneliness and the unability to build up relationships. Highly
> recommended. Anybody out there, who read her stuff?
> 
>     - Oliver

If you like Jackson, I would suggest you try Flannery O'Connor.  Not
the same vein as Jackson but every bit as creepy, I think.
--
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From: AZ.EPC@forsythe.stanford.edu 
Subject: Books of the New Sun
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:53:24 GMT



Hey folks, lately been thinking about something never mentioned.
I think it's horror.
  Gene Wolfe wrote the "Book of the New Sun" tetralogy, and each
book was hard to define.  Lately (after reading alt.horror) I'd
like to call it something different then sci-fi/sci-fantasy/etc
and wonder what you people think.  It does have elements of hor-
ror....is it?
Organization: Sophomore, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:01:19 -0400 
From: Chiara Noelle Sposato <cs65+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Other Anne Rice stories...

>   The Feast of all Saints or Cry to Heaven??? And if so are they 
>   any good??? What are they about, (without spoiling for me please),
>   and has she writen any other books???
> 
>   -[Russ.

well i have not read either book all the way through i can give you an
idea about their subjects. "Feast of all Saints" is about a group of
people in the antebellum time period in New  Orleans who are of mixed
race, one of the female characters is able to pass for white though she
is part black. It is about theirs lives and such. "Cry to Heaven" is set
in Italy roughly between 1700's-1800's and is about the live of the
castrati -- young boys are taken and castrated and then are sent to a
school wheree the become opera singers. If you have read "Belinda" which
is written undeer  the name Ann Rampling and liked it you would probably
like these books. I thought the draged on way too much (though some
think this happened in "Queen of the Damed" and "The Witching  Hour" as
well) which is why i neeveer finished them. the books are more
"romantic" and historical, there are no vampires or anything

chiara
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: goldman@orac.CRAY.COM (Matthew D. Goldman)
Subject: Re: hey King fans-- WEIRD stuff just happened to me!
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:05:53 CDT

In article <1992Aug25.132141.9462@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
>
>Ok... NOW I'm getting worried.  :)

>Now, I'm sure it's all a coincidence... but there IS that antique
>shop down the street with that toy monkey in the window...
>
>If my new neighbors have a large St. Bernard, I'm moving.  :)

By then of course, it is too late...

Matt

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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at
Subject: Shirley Jackson
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:25:28 GMT


I am reading a book by Shirley Jackson "The Lottery", a 1947-compilation of
short-stories. Not what a lot of you out there would consider to be "real"
horror, but very irritating and disturbing. The stories are mostly about
loneliness and the unability to build up relationships. Highly
recommended. Anybody out there, who read her stuff?

    - Oliver

"I never drink ... wine." (The Count)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hellraiser info
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:00:19 GMT

In article <BtvGLD.45C@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.022427.19743@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>>I just saw _Hellraiser_ and _Hellraiser II_ for the first time. I am not a fan
>>of horror films for the most part, but I thought that both of these were great.
>>
>>I have a few questions:
>>
>>1) Are there any other films out there that I will probably like if I like
>>these two?
>	Other Barker movies include _Rawhead Rex_ (A pretty faithful adaptation
>	of the short story of the same name) and _Nightbreed_ (A bizarre
>	story taken from his novella, _Cabal_.))da
>>
>>3) Were the films based on something that Barker wrote?
>	They were based on his novella, _The Hellbound Heart_.  I have it,
>	but haven't had a chance to read it yet.
>				-Casey Hopkins

I don't know if I can agree with the endorsement of "Rawhead Rex". It isn't
bad, just kind of oldfashioned, but the monster leaves a bit to be desired.
Barker hates it, and it was one of the reasons he wanted to direct. 
Worth seeing, but I think it lacks the distinctive Barker feel. There is
another film he worked on, "Transmutations" <I think> and that is the pits.
He really hates this one. ]

Any other fans of "Night Breed" out there? I thought it was absolutely
amazing! and very close to the book, "Cabal". David Cronenberg is 
great as the psychiatrist!

					--Judex--
From: dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Saberhagen's DOMINION -- is it a sequel?
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:27:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <9208251255.AA07580@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin) writes...
%I just finished Fred Saberhagen's book DOMINION, which I found to be
%reasonably enjoyable. Internal evidence indicated that this book is
%actually a sequel to some prior work(s), but there was no indication
%anywhere in the edition I read as to what the prequel(s) might be.
%This sometimes happens when an author changes publishers -- the new
%one doesn't want to give any publicity to a competitor's products.
% 
%So I was wondering if anyone on the net had any knowledge about this:
%one of the book's main characters and one of the major supporting characters
%are a vampire named Talisman and a Chicago cop named Joe Keogh. Their
%actions and conversation implied this was a continuation of a prior 
%relationship. Did those characters appear in a prior book by Saberhagen?
%(DOMINION is copyright 1982.)
% 

The 2 books that are direct sequels to DOMINION are (1) An Old Friend of the
Family, and (2) THORN.  There other books in the series and in semi-
chronological order they are:

The Dracula Tapes
The Holmes-Dracula File
An Old Friend of the Family
Thorn
Dominion
A Matter of Taste (the newest one)
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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Half-remembered movie
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:23:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.013409.12289@morrow.stanford.edu> AZ.EPC@forsythe.stanford.edu  writes:
>
>
>When I was a kid I saw a movie called "Blood on Satan's Claw" -
>I remember it starting with a medieval farmer plowing a field and
>uncovering something, a skull or bones I think....I remember one
>scene which scared me badly - a guy in an attic (?) trying desper-
>ately to keep something underneath from opening the trap door and
>this scene may have included a dismemberment of some kind...also
>seems that the story included patches of hair growing on peoples
>skins, and a priest fighting the devil around a blazing fire at
>the end....anyone remember this?  Was it a Hammer film?  Any info
>will help.
>
	Blood on Satan's Claw was an English film, but I don't think it was
a Hammer film.  I have never sat down and watched it, but I know it was
available on videotape!  
	My source says it was directed by Piers Haggard and starred Patrick
Wymark and Linda Hayden!  It also might be under the title, Satan's Claw!
	I hope this helps some!

					-Casey Hopkins



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From: rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale)
Subject: Re: Vampire advise
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:41:39 GMT

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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Street Trash
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:27:36 GMT

If you know of other movies by this truly awesome company of brave men
please,pleasepleasepleaserespond.

		---Geronimo

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