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From: moses@netcom.com (Lamont Cranston)
Subject: Re: Passwords - Why Bother (more)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:13:42 GMT

sparre@DELMARVA.COM writes:

>> Like everyone else, I sure wish someone from Banyan would comment on all this.
>> My gut feel is that by their silence, they are acknowledging that something IS
>> indeed wrong (though I have not experienced it) and they're trying to fix it
> in
>>  the background.  Come on Banyan, if there's a problem, acknowledge it like
>> Novell did with the breach discovered in the Netherlands.  If there isn't then
>> say so.

>Mike, I don't think you can make generalizations about Banyan's silence
>meaning anything other than they don't have to say anything electronically
>if they don't want to. If any Banyan employees see discussions here or
>on Compuserve, it is totally up to those particular employees to respond,
>and in fact they have been officially DISCOURAGED to participate. It is
>only because some of them are brave enough and care enough that you see
>them at all. Sad, but true. Now I haven't really followed the Mac problem
>this thread has been discussing, but only reports through support channels
>will bring any official recognition of the problem - and even then you won't
>see a marketing notice on it fer shur.

Sorry for responding to such an old post, but I've been mulling the posting
over in my mind and have finally found why it bothers me so much.

Folks, we PAY Banyan a great deal of money every year to write Vines.  Between
all the Banyan-L readers I'm sure we represent several million a year just
in maintenance.  Therefore, I find it very troubling that Banyan gives this
group the cold shoulder.  If we where some tiny user group that they were
not even aware of I would understand.  However, I know for a fact that
Banyan type folks do read what goes on here.  Therefore, Banyan is aware of
our concerns and chooses not to adress them.  The original thrust of this
was that silence is not neccessarily bad.  What I'm saying is that Banyan
has a very real PR problem here and has not addressed it.  How can this
be anything but bad?

My issue is not that there is a major problem with Vines, but that the
possibility exists and we have heard nothing from those who should know.
Let me restate to be 100% clear: my issue is not a technical one.  I have
no idea if 5.0 has a bug or n.  The problem is that we have a bunch
of users (sorry but that's what we are) running around trying to trace
down a bug with little or no input from Banyan.  That's the problem.

All of this is not intended to slight Laura Z. or her posting.  I think it
is good advice and the parties involved should no doubt follow it.  Laura,
you are indeed a godsend and whatever Banyan pays you it is not enough.

Well, enough ranting and raving, anybody solve this sucker yet?


-- 
Lamont Cranston                        "I once had a plan, but it seems to
moses@netcom.com                        to have gone missing"
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Subject:      re:DAT-Tape

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Bengt-Arne Skoog <skb%IDE.HK-R.SE@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>

I have tried to switch my 525MB Archive tape with a
HP Dat. It detects the tape but i get Media I/O error.

I have heard that Archieve Phyton Dat works, but is there
any reason that HP Dat shouldn't work?

Vines 4.11(5), i know of course that the only Dat-tape
that is Banyan-supported is Compaq!

Email : Bengt-Arne.Skoog@ide.hk-r.se
Phone : 46-457-71850
Fax   : 46-457-27481
Post  : Soft Center
        372 25 Ronneby

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I've sucessfully used the HP DAT tape drive in both Compaq Systempros
and Dell 450 SE servers.  I used the DPT Smart Cache Controller in both
systems.  What controller are you using and on what type of server?  There's
been alot of discussion about this particular tape drive in the last few
months....I believe it depends on the controller.

Send me more info and I'll help you out.
----------------------------------------
Carolyn Hanley, US Army Corps of Engrs.
chanley@usace.mil
916-557-7035, 916-557-7474 (fax)
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From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Packet Drivers and Ebanyan

Sorry but I was a bit to eager on the last reply.
PKTMUX is not in the packet driver collection.

Bye

Hendrik
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:27:19 -0300
From:         Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Auto-Compose and Send Mail

Brent,

>I am looking for a utility that can automatically compose and send a
>Banyan Mail item from the command line.  Ideally the utility would
>obtain the message and/or address from a text file that could be
>specified by file name on the command line.  The To: and Subject:
>fields would need to be either command line or input file driven as
>well.  I am pretty sure it is possible to do this as a HELPDESK package
>by CCOM that is Banyan specific has the capability to automatically
>send Banyan mail.  Any help is appreciated.

You could use DOS input redirection to drive mail in batch mode.

ie Z:\MAIL <script

A decent editor that allows insertion of binary strings is most helpful in
composing the script file.  Function keys are 2 character sequences, the
first being an ascii nul "\000" which is can be trickey to insert.

Give me a yell if you need more info.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian.brabham@cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
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Subject:      re: Sportster 14.4

Rick,

We've had pretty good luck with U.S. Robotics HST's.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:05:46 PST
From:         JAMES=NEARING%50%WPNSTAC@FS.NWSCON.SEA06.NAVY.MIL
Subject: Re: Auto-Compose and Send Mail

I tried sending this yesterday, but the message seems to have gotten lost.
Our Internet mail works about as well as everything else in the
government.

We use a thing called Mail!.exe by Robert Laird, the author of TSR Mail.
It redirects an ASCII file into the mail program.  We use it all the time
in our timecard system to notify people when their time card is screwed
up.
It works real good.  I got one of those messages yesterday.

Mail!.exe is probably on CSUS with Robert's other stuff.  If not, get a
copy of his TSR Mail.  The docs will have his BBS phone number.
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From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: KEYS.
              1 Jan 1993 18:09:45 CET from
              <wim=malliet%SYS%CC3@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>

On Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:09:45 CET <wim=malliet%SYS%CC3@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE> said:
>Hi all,
>my best wishes for the new year.
>Just a question to start this year! In a few weeks i will change an unlimited,
>for a 5 users limited key. The server is a Communication machine with 2 ICA
>boards in it. On this machine we installed the TCP/IP Routing option. Will the
>different serial numbers of the keys give me some problems?
>
I know everyone keeps stating that you can't swap server keys without the 96
hour time difference but I had a situation that forced me to try it anyway.

I had a server w/server key stolen. Approximately 24 hours later I had obtained
another server and server key from my VAR. I placed this server on the network
with the same server name and I had only one problem. That server had TCP/IP
routing on it. The Bserver command that is used to configure the IFCUST.SYS
file stores the key # not the server name. By reissuing that command from the
network for the users using the new server as their TCP/IP routing server
everything was fine.

Shirley Rodgers
University of Akron
SRodgers@uakron.edu
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Subject:      Re: CC:Mail & Vines

We use cc:Mail for our DOS, Windows and MAC clients.  We are quite pleased with
it.  The installation is fairly simple.  All clients are accessing the same
files, so even if they switch platforms (a MAC user hops on a DOS machine) they
can still access their mail without any problems.  All three platforms are
simple enough to use that without any training most people could figure out how
to send and recieve messages (that can be a big bonus).  Everything is menu or
icon driven.  You can import ascii lists of names (rather than entering them
individually), it has Bulletin Boards, Private Mailing Lists, Folders and other
standard mail items.  You can also attach binary files (generally only usefull
if you're sending to another cc:Mail cliant).  If you have any other specific
questions you can E-Mail me directly at:

cramerb@svm.vetmed.wisc.edu
-Bob-
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:20:09 EST
From:         Tom=Greenaway%Toronto%banyan@MAGNOLIA.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      re: Passwords - Why Bother (more still)

        Hi all!  I have been reading this list for
        some time now and must say, It is a wealth of information.

        I have tried and tried to reproduce the problem in house but
        so far, have been unsuccesful.  Using 1.2   1.3b6  and 1.3
        I always get "invalid user id or password or server unavail".
        I have tried ID's homed on a 4.11 server and 5.0 server.

        I have opened a call to the Response Centre on behalf of
        all list members using MACs with Vines.  Any news I can get
        I will forward to all!

        WE NEED YOUR HELP!  If you have MACs and Vines 5.00  please try
        to reproduce and send your results to your VAR.  Your VAR can then
        get the information to the Response Centre.  Include as much info
        about your site as possible.

        I want to help but you cannot fix what you cannot reproduce!!!!!


                                Thanks for the assistance!!!!


                      Tom%Toronto%Banyan@Magnolia.banyan.com




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From: skb@ide.hk-r.se (Bengt-Arne Skoog)
Subject: Vines Assistant
Organization: Hgskolan Karlskrona/Ronneby (HK/R)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:17:49 GMT

After uppgrading Vines Assistant to 2.04 (VINES 5.0(5), CNS)
i get  the following errormessage in the service log
when i try to start the service:

Startup: sadcfile: Cannot create

Any ideas?

Email : Bengt-Arne.Skoog@ide.hk-r.se
Phone : 46-457-71850
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Subject:      Internet/SMTP mail to MCI Mail

Happy New Year all!

I know it is possible to send Internet/SMTP mail to Compuserve.  Does anyone
know if you can also do this with MCI Mail?  If so, what is the addressing
schema?  Thanks in advance.

Mike Crist
TRW
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From: adimmick@world.std.com (Andrew H Dimmick)
Subject: Re: MAC's on the VINE
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:01:24 GMT

[BB
In article <BANYAN-L%93011209480046@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> Thomas=C.=Gray%NetAdmin%CSS@CSS.UNC.EDU writes:
>We are getting ready to embark on the mission no-one wants to
>go on-------networking our 4 MAC's to our VINES network.  We will
>be slamming ethernet cards in these units.
>
>Should we get MAC ethernet cards WITH FPU's or WITHOUT.  Other
>than cost, what is the difference (performance-wize).
>
>Any ideas?
>
>tom gray  network administrator, UNC Chapel Hill
>tom@css.unc.edu

Hey Tom,
Don't worry too much - connecting Macs to a net is a no-brainer.
As far as the FPUs - if your clients do a lot of number crunching, do it,
otherwise, your performance won't be increased too much.
Andrew Dimmick
Trellis

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:10:56 +0100
From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Packet Drivers and Ebanyan

Mike,

I just checked out the latest version on ftp.msem.com in /pub/vendor/crynwr
theire are 2 files: the 6th beta in 3c509f.zip and the pre alpha 11.x version
in alpha1.zip which is a collection of new 11.x packet drivers.
The above node seems to be the new distribution point of crynwr test drivers.
I've been useing the 6th beta on about 30 pc's here without problems. It's a
mix of 25-33Mhz SX's up to 50Mhz 486 DX-2's. All are 'nameless Taiwan' clones.
You might check out wait states and bus speeds since we had some problems with
that. Another suggestion (but you already have tried that) is to try and get
it working with NDIS first to eliminate hardware problems. I found out that
NDIS allways worked.

Bye

Hendrik.

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From:         Keith Lally <lally@PMDB.SEP.BNL.GOV>
Subject:      unix to vines lpd

Does anyone have a clue as to banyan's plans regarding
unix to vines printer sharing.  Are they going to duplicate
incognito's products and release it with vines or stay
away from this area and let the third parties handle it?
I am considering buying the incognito product but don't
want to spend the bucks and then get it with the next
rev of vines.
thanks
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:48:49 GMT
From:         ps@JET.UK
Subject:      re: Passwords - Why Bother (more still)

From: "Brent A. Waechter" <BAWAECHT@CORPSB.REMNET.AB.COM>

>.....  To our SURPRISE, we tried the sequence of
>events this morning and we COULD duplicate the problem.  We will be
>letting our VAR know ASAP.

Yes, another one.   Please can anyone who has tried this problem, whether you
found the fault or not, mail me (direct probably) with your exact patch
configuration from your OPERATE menu.  As this appears to be a problem that is
only affecting a few of us then it could well be a patch level related problem
(say 5.00(6) applied or not).  If you are running 5.xx with Macs attached and
have not tried this yet, please do and forward your results and patch details.

On related points, this has been reported via my VAR to Banyan UK, but Banyan
UK are in the category of unable to duplicate this problem!  (does this mean
there is no fault report forwarded to Banyan US ??).

On the subject of Banyan participation, I agree that we urgently need an
OFFICIAL statement on this, and we need official Banyan participation in
Banyan-l (is Laura Z officially sanctioned to comment and participate on
behalf of Banyan??).  This was something I mentioned to David Mahoney when he
visited JET, so how about some action on this point Banyan!

BTW, my VAR just phoned to say Banyan UK are running 5.50 and cannot duplicate
this, but do not have a 5.00(5) server!

Regards

Paul Simmonds
VINES Network Manager

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From:         Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: unix to vines lpd

Carolyn,

>We're using the public domain version of lpd (version 1.0e).  All works fine
>but service doesn't delete spooled jobs on server.  After a while, the
>server hard disk fills up!  Anyone else have this problem?  Perhaps we're
>running on an older version of lpd.

Yes I found that bug early in the piece, I thought it had been fixed some
time ago, anyway here is the code fragment that needs fixing.  I also
included some logging code to help with future problems.

***** lpd.ori
                                if( status==0){
                                        unlink( t_buf);
                                }
***** lpd.c
                                if( status==0){
                                        unlink(df_file_name);
                                        LogMsg( LOG_DEBUG2,
                                                "%s: unlink(\"%s\")",
                                                me, df_file_name);
                                }


Also here is the code fragment that needs changing to allow printing to rev 5
print queues (still only runs on a rev 4 server).  With rev 5 print services
there are other undocumented bits set in ss.statflgs that were fouling things
up.  Again I have added logging code to help with future difficulties.

***** lpd.ori
        status=SvcStatus( svcport, printer, &ss);
        if( status != 0 || ss.statflgs != 1)
                return(0);

        return( 1);
***** lpd.c
        status=SvcStatus( svcport, printer, &ss);
        if( (status != 0) || ((ss.statflgs & 1) != 1))
        {
              LogMsg( LOG_ERROR,"SvcStatus( svcport, %s, %x) -> %d(errno=%d)",
                        printer, ss.statflgs, status, errno);
              return(0);
        }
        return( 1);


Ian Brabham                 email: ian.brabham@cc.monash.edu.au
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Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
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From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Packet Drivers and Ebanyan

Great info Ian,

PKTMUX is part of the packet driver collection so it should be in drivers,
drivers1, drivers2 or drivers3.zip. I will sure try it out next Monday.

Bye

Hendrik.

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From:         Capt Luc Clement <clement@MVAX.DCEM.DND.CA>
Subject:      Help with WinQVT

Has anyone have success in running WinQVT TCP/IP Services for Microsoft
Windows using PC/TCP Software's "ebanyan" driver.

I am attempting this, but am getting the following errors in
consecutive order:

        "Unsupported Packet Class 0!"
        "netinit() error!"
        "Network Initialization Error!"

As indicated in the installation instructions, I do run PKTINT prior to
loading Windows.

The following is an extract of my "qvt_tcp.rc" file:

#=======================================================================
pc_ip=192.16.218.224    # your PC's IP address (mandatory)
                        # you can use the keyword 'RARP' if your network
                       # supports Reverse ARP
my_name=pc623           # your PC's network node name
                        # mandatory if you are going to use 'lpr'
                        # optional otherwise
netmask=255.255.255.0   # subnetting mask
arptime=8               # arp timeout in seconds
domain=dcsem.ca         # default domain for lookup (optional).
packet_vector=61        # packet driver interrupt vector (hex, with NO
leading '0x')
                        # must be within the range 60 through 7F
packet_class=0          # 0 for Ethernet, 6 for SLIP
#======================================================================


Capt L. Clement
DCSEM 6-2-3
National Defence Headquarters
219 Laurier Ave West
Ottawa, Canada
K1A 0K2

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