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From: wicksd@hermes.ecn.purdue.edu (Donna M Wicks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC TAN:  Weight comments
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:11:42 GMT
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Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Nov11.200231.12600@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.180931.16010@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
>>>>      Does it seem like Dim is developing a spare tire? sure looked
>>>>      like it when he was dancing with E.
>>>
>>>I'd describe it as a Captain Kirk paunch.  Now Jack is getting
>>>to be a portly..
>>
>>Okay, guys, I've kept my mouth shut on this one so long, my tongue is
>>bloody.
>>doesn't have an ironing-board-flat stomach!
>
>I guess I started this, so I should apologize. Reading what I wrote again,
>It didn't come out as I intended it. The point that I was trying to make was
>the costume on Dim was not flattering, and I'm sure they could have come up
>with something better. Anyway, I did screw up and Pat is correct in point 
>this out. Thanks Pat!
  I guess I'll add my apologies to this. However, my post about the
Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dum pants was because it emphasized Dim's
stomach. We all have our flaws and, hopefully, we chose clothes
that will not accentuate what they are. I was never one to
scream for a scene with Dim in tight pants. I also don't see
how this line of criticism on wardrobe choice is any worse
than the one that got started about Livia's wedding dress.
After all we watch the soap and post to this group so we
can nitpick. This does not compare to the unkind words that
the actress (damn her name slips my mind just now) that played
Ceara received about her weight problem. That rtuly did seem
mean-spirited at times.

  So I'm not sure this is an apology or not. I don't think
every soap actor needs to be slim and trim, but I sure
hope I have the right to criticize wardrobe choices :)

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From: n2413@cray.com (Jo Theis)
Subject: Re: ATWT:Superdick
Reply-To: n2413@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:11:37 CST

In article 9NOV199219101536@zeus.tamu.edu, san7675@zeus.tamu.edu (STEPH) writes:
> In article <BxFF8B.9HD@nic.umass.edu>, jbeckman@titan.ucc.umass.edu
> (JILL BECKMAN) writes...
> > 
> >Just had to take a moment to vent my spleen.

	{Spleen vent deleted.  Blech!  Messy!)
> 
> 
> My roommate and I were talking about this, and we've decided that he's not
> dead...  They're lying to Margo and Barb to protect them from reprisals
> by the Harpers, and they're not even going to tell Hal's family in Alva...
> I bet you that Hal will reappear at some later date with a new name...

Absolutely.  Superdick isn't dead.  Why, he's...he's...Superdick!  This "death" 
is something the Crime Commission had to concoct to protect the totally undeserving
Babs, the BabsBabe, and the Munson clan back in Bug Tussle.  Don't you remember that
Joe Bailey wanted to talk to TOMato?  He'll tell Tom and then--SURPRISE!!--there 
will be another secret to keep.  And after a few months of nostril flairing and 
general wailing, Hal will return and Babs will look like the selfish, unforgiving
bitch that she is.

- JlJ

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From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Erika - shopping at the Farmers' Market
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:06:32 GMT
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Granma (cpatters@ub.d.umn.edu) wrote:
: 
: Re: Thursday's show ......
: 
:  
: EXCUSE ME!  But could someone tell me what in the heck Erika
: was doing wearing a CABBAGE on her lapel?  (Or was that an
: ARTICHOKE?)

Granma,

I forgot to comment on this in my update, but it cracked me up, too!
It reminded me of Beverly Hills 90210, first season episode called
"The Spring Dance."  In it, the character of Kelly makes her date
Brandon wear a "vegetable corsage" (radishes, I think) which she
calls "all the rage"!!  Lord help us if this is really the direction
fashion is heading in!

I'd rather wear bell-bottoms(70s) and velour (80s) than vegetables (90s?)
any day!

Susan 
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From: jreeves@emdeng.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jacki.A.Reeves)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GL: Eleni
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:01:53 GMT
Organization: NCR, E&M Dayton

Someone asked about Eleni telling Frank that the baby is A-M's because
she slept with him in Greece...  You said that Eleni slept with Frank
a couple days before, so how can she know that the baby is A-M's.  I
accidentally deleted the post, so I could not reply to it directly.

Anyway, Eleni claims to have forgotten her birth control pills when she went 
to Greece, or something like that.  She, of course, does not know that
the pills she was taking aren't working because A-M switched them with
some placebos that he oh-so-conveniently had in his brief case.  Sooooo,
she thinks that she was taking pills when she slept with Frank but that
she wasn't taking pills when she slept with A-M that one time in Greece.

I hope that clears things up for whoever asked.

--JR

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From: sheri@cbnewse.cb.att.com (sherlyn.k.johnson)
Subject: Re: LOV JACK'S DEATH
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:32:44 GMT

In article <1dr4h0INNgh@phoenix.genrad.com>, djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham) writes:
> In article <92316.004914FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> >Ciao Soapsters
> >
> >Anybody under the opinion that Jack is still alive, and that evil ol Clay
> >might have had an (under) hand in Jack's alleged demise?  Lately I have been
> >thinking that Jack has been abducted and held somewhere by the Clayster
> >to get the Alden blue ribbon stock.  Anyone thinking along these lines?
> >
> >Just wondering if I lost my mind, anyone in the same mental state?
> 
> Remember Soap Opera Rule #(what number is it?) - No Body? No death.
> 
> Clay may have seen the badly decomposed body, but we know his
> intentions are not pure and unselfish. I wouldn't trust him to tell me
> what the weather was like outside.
> 
> But, I think Clay being behind this is too pat. I have a feeling it's
> Leo. Remember, her wants the AE stock, too, and he's the one buying it
> all up. If Stacey is declared insane, does the stock go on the open
> market? I would think that Clay would woe her, not turn her into a
> vegtable. (And I think Clay is on his way to woeing her, so why would
> he try to drive her crazy?)
> 

My cousin said she heard/read somewhere that Jack is coming back.
That were sure be great.  I'm kinda tired of this storyline.  I've
seen the make-them-think-their-insane-so-they-will-commit-themselves
storyline done to death.  Something new would be nice.

> On another note, can we start a discussion on how to get the writers
> to acknowledge the existance of rec.arts.tv.soaps (you know, I want to
> reuse a story line from the AMC posters, hey, if the writers can do
> it, I figured we can do it, too).
> 
> So, what would you like to see the writers do that would convince you
> that they read this group?
> 
> I'd like to see a computer programmer at Alden Enterprises that is a
> female named Deborah (I'd settle for Deb, Debbie, or even better, deb
> with no capitals...that couldn't be anything but evidence). She could
> be on the computer, reading news. She doesn't even have to talk. Just
> get a makeup person or stray off the street and have someone tell her
> it's lunch or something. Or have name tags on the offices and have
> someone walk by...but I wouldn't know since I only listen to the
> show...but I'm sure someone will tell me if that happens.  I'd love to
> see the inner workings of AE - all we ever see is the CEOs office and
> other higher-ups.
> 
What about a programmer or just one of the characters like Leo or Clay,
Trisha or Gwen, reading the net?  Have someone walk up to them and ask
them what their doing and have the reply being reading the net or better
yet, reading rats!  That would be some heavy duty proof.
> 
> deb
> (djg@genrad.com)

Sheri J.
From: cher@cleese.ipac.caltech.edu (Cheryl LaGue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Holly using Quartermaine phone
Date: 13 Nov 1992 23:58:03 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleese.ipac.caltech.edu

Good Grief, could you Holly bashers give it a rest already?????

First of all, ALL the Quartermaines had a vested interest in this Constance
person, not to mention the fact that Tracy was about to take all the blame
for the switch! I think they were thankful that Holly was going to make some
attempt to help!!!!

If you could get past your hatred for Holly, perhaps you would not have so
much trouble understanding the story line!!

Cheryl
From: bartosch@felix.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Am I the only one???
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:26:44 GMT
Reply-To: bartosch@fritz.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

Is anyone else out there totally bored with the Dim/Erica scenes?  I've
gotten so that I can watch AMC in less then 30 minutes FF'ing though their
scenes. This last week in Budapest (sp?) was the worst.  It seemed like
they just wanted to waste air time with these drive-around-and-kiss-all-over-
the-place, or dance-around-the-house scenes that seemed to be endless this 
last week.

Boy, and the director should be alittle more in tune with the fact that we
might be eating (considering it comes on at noon PST) during the show.  My
brother-in-law (who works with my husband out of our home) and I almost 
tossed our lunches when Angle and Jack were in bed and Jack decided to 
slip her the tongue...

Rambling on here, but am I the only one???

--Diane
bartosch@fritz.filenet.com
From: crobshaw@rd.hydro.on.ca (Catharine Robshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: Vicky & Ryan (SPOILERS!!)
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:54:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: rd.1992Nov13.135458.24862
Distribution: usa
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"

Again, we see that John Silva is the most widely-used lawyer in
Genoa City.

Isn't Victoria and Ryan's marriage illegal because she faked her ID
and married under age?  Why has no one mentioned that (i.e. Mitchell
Sherman)?  It really was legal?

I think Ryan should go for the bribe and get the hell out of this
mess!  There are so many things going against them, Victor will
make their lives hell.

Catharine
 
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From: san7675@venus.tamu.edu (STEPH)
Subject: Re: ATWT:MHH's rentry into Snyderland
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:35:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.142544.545@cs.wayne.edu>, faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong) writes...
>In article <1dav4vINN4rq@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN) writes:
>>In article <Bx4JLG.GoD@andy.bgsu.edu>,
>>ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:
>>>
>>>Would that he continues to hang out with the ladydoc, and that Chilly an
>>>Lucy get into it over the affections of Scooter, and that Enema drops over
>>>dead (she usually doesn't get to me, but LATELY...ugh.)
>>>
> 
>Yeah, I have been noticing Chilly and Scooter and I do think they will
>make a good pair ESPECIALLY SINCE LUCY WILL HAVE A FIT.
>I loved Scooter and Connor together, but sincerely hope they don't get
>back together, since I now believe Connor deserves better - Kirk maybe?
>I love his relationship with Eli but that seems to be going down. What
>can I say? ATWT is beginning to get on my nerves.
> 
>Feli.
> 

I'd like to say that ATWT has been getting on my nerves for the better part
of the last two years, and I keep watching it anyway...

I'm a newbie to this net, will someone post the names of the ATWT characters
so that I can follow the posts without having to pause and wait for 
comprehension??

Thanks in advance.

Stephanie
SAN7675@venus.tamu.edu
From: cher@wendy.ipac.caltech.edu (Cheryl LaGue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Holly Must DiE!
Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:40:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: wendy.ipac.caltech.edu

I am almost afraid to jump into this fray, but after reading all this
stuff about Holly, I just want to say that I have watched GH since
before Holly came on the show (originally). I liked her from the start, but
never really with Luke (from the first instant I saw her, I KNEW she would 
be perfect with Robert, She was!). She was quite good in those days, even
if she was a "protected flower" from the start.

I also watched Dynasty faithfully, and I liked Emma Samms then too.

I was thrilled to hear she was returning to GH, I felt it would add spice!

Now, for the punch line......I HATE her now!!! I never ever thought I would
say that, but based on my above opinions, I have to say that it MUST be the
writers....I think they originally brought her back to stir things up with
Robert and Anna (like Anna did to Robert and Holly), but unfortunatly, both
of those actors picked times close to her start date to quit.....So, here
the writers were stuck with her, and obviously not knowing what to do with
her.....

Don't worry all you Holly haters, the word is her contract is up very soon,
and she most likely will leave...

nuff said.....

Cheryl
From: epickering@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: Update for Tuesday the 10th
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:12:51 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 


Okay . . .  this sounds great!  I finally have a day off from work when
I can watch.  They better not do what they did to me the last time I
had the day off -- it was Memorial Day and they spent what seemed to
be the whole show with Kay and Jill rehashing old dirt.  

I hope I get to see things move forward this time.

		-- ep
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 00:06:54 -0500 
From: Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: AMC: Vixie's out of control

Dixass is really getting on my nerves!!!!  Her relationship with The
Brainless One already wants to make me hurl, but did she have to be so
patronizing to Hayley today?

Everyone in this group seems to think that Hayley needs to grow up (or
at least these are the people that are most vocal about her), but in
today's scenes with Vixie, she seemed the much more mature person. 
If/when Dixass loses custody of her son, I will feel no sympathy
whatsoever.  Maybe she doesn't deserve it, but she is the most
indiscreet person!!

Why are Dixass and Braindead always locking lips in public?  Every time
you see them together, whether it be at the hospital, at a party, or
wherever, they're in a clinch.  Give me a break already.  Knowing Adam
the way she does, I would think she'd take Hayley's advice no matter
what vein she thought it was offered in.  But then again, we're talking
about Ditsie here.

I really hate to see that she and He Who Has No Brain will be moving in
together.  Does this mean we'll be force-fed more of this vile couple? 
I wish there were some way to fast-forward through a live telecast.

Jenn

PS  Can't wait until the whole crew makes it to Budapesht.  If Edmund's
plan fails, maybe we'll see Hellcat terrorize Dim and the Enchantress
back at Weirdwind.  I think this would be MUCH more interesting than
anything Edmund could possibly come up with.  The way she says THAT KANE
WOMAN, makes a shiver run down my spine.  Hellcat is SO EVIL!!!  I love
it!



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 11:06:35 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL:TAN: Rape - SB vs Days.


[Vix not Lix]
 
Kumara responds eloquently:
 
>  I wanted to follow up to Vickies followup of one of my "Rape" posts but of
> course a huge amount of posts have been dumped since I last read the net.
 
It has probably been due to my eloquent rebuttal of Susan and Tim's raving. ;)
 
> Onion - I liked the way that you jumped so high but Im afraid you missed the
> point of my post. Maybe I wasn't too clear in the way I wrote but Im
concerned
> that you thought that I was doing an SB is better than Days nyah nyah nyah
> thing. I wasn't.
> I know that MaryBeth and Matt are good actors - I didn't say that they
weren't
> in fact the reason that I got so involved with the rape storyline was partly
> there convincing portrayals.
> My point was - Days ( the writerrs and TPTB) didn't handle the story
the way I
> would have liked to have seen it handled ( so whats new?)My main beef was the
> fact that kayla brought charges against Jack to help her get over the rapeand
> then she sold out.I have no argument with the way the story was acted - but t
he
> handling of such a sensitive subject was INMO rough.
 
Yes, she settled.  But my point and a few other's also, was that you haven't
seen even half of the Jack/Kayla stuff yet.  You are making a judgement
before you have.  I generally agree with your takes on things so I think I
know what you like well enough to say that if you give it a chance you will
think they do a wonderful job.  I saw the Eden stuff in it's entirety.  IMHO
SB's handling does not compare to Days in this case.
 
> One last thing - Onion seems to think that I am not a TRUE Days fan
because if
> I were how could I have blasphemed so and admitted that I enjoyed an SB story
> over a Days treatment. 
 
I have never said that nor would I nor do I think it.  You read something into
my post that simply was not there, sis.  I enjoy a lot of SB stuff over Days,
but in fairness to Days, this is one they handled much better.  I think that 
you are making a judgement about a storyline that is not over by any stretch 
of the imagination.  FYI, it's still not over up here.  You may have enjoyed
the Eden stuff better than the Jack/Kayla stuff, but I didn't and I think
that you may see, when you've watched more of it, that Days did do a far
better job.
 
> Anyhow - the day Diana Colville leaves is the day I deprogram my VCR.
 
Excellent choice!
 
Vix
 


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From: cantor@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor)
Subject: Lucas/Bobby/Tiff custody
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:02:00 GMT


	I was curious about something regarding the custody situation.  A
couple of people have mentioned the obvious possibility that Cheryl would leave
Lucas in Bobby's custody instead of Tiff, but that would be the stupidest
stunt the writers have pulled yet!

	There was just a thread about how Bobby and Tiff were acting all buddy-
buddy, when they hated each other not long ago.  That's true, but remember
Cheryl and Bobby?  They really were at each other's throats!  I can't believe
Cheryl would leave her son with the woman who kept him from her.  It just
doesn't make sense, does it?  And if she doesn't, there's no custody battle,
and no storyline.


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From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Spoiler from SOM
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:15:12 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA

In article <10NOV199210160096@opal.tufts.edu>, bdangelo@opal.tufts.edu (Barbara J. D'Angelo) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov8.191731.9330@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, mon@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (m.t.shareshian) writes...
|> >> >   Although not confirmed by ABC, the word is that Robin Mattson had
|> >> > agreed to come back to GH and revive her role as HEATHER as soon as
|> >> > she leaves her role as GINA on SB.
|> > 
|> >Wait a minute, are we talking about Heather (whacko) Weber?
|> >Can this be right?  I thought she was married to Jeff, Rick's
|> >brother?  Lordie, that was a lifetime ago (are all the Webers
|> >dead or what?).  Perhaps this means McGuyver will come back
|> >too?  Why don't I remember Heather Weber having a relationship
|> >with Scotty?  Weren't those the Scotty/Bobbie/Laura triangle
|> >days?
|> > 
|> Heather was married to Jeff, they had a son (I can't remember his
|> name) and were divorced.  Jeff has custody of their son and they left

   Initially his name was PJ - Peter Jr. when Diana and Peter Taylor
   adopted him - I think when it was discovered he was Jeff's - and
   that Jeff is Steve Hardy's son - he was named Steve.

|> 
|> As for the other Weber's:  Rick and his son left PC before Jeff did, I 

   Actually Rick married Ginny and much later moved to NY.

|> think he also went to Phoenix and that Jeff went out there to be near
|> his brother.  Leslie is dead.  Luke and Laura (Laura was Leslie's 
|> daughter) are living on a ranch in Texas.
|> 
|> Barbara    

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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: Re: SB - Friday Update
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:01:21 GMT

In article <3990@randvax.rand.org> pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.165424.21143@u.washington.edu> dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias ) writes:
>>
>>  At the gatehouse Ted is still trying to talk Lilly into marriage and Lilly
>>  starts hearing the Wedding March in her head and fantasizes marching down
>>  the stairs at the mansion into Ted's waiting arms.  They approach the main
>
>Didn't you love BJ's wedding attire?  Short mini-skirt with foofy
>petticoats (like those square-dance skirts), anklet socks with high
>heels, all in white (shoes may have been in silver).  Then her head
>piece was a silver visor with veil stuff around it.  I loved it --
>very kooky and nontraditional.  Ugly, yeah, but it was antiestablishment,
>which is what the wedding would be about.
>

Yes, I loved Lilly's wedding attire. She had me in stiches. I also enjoyed
her with the curlers in her hair and bath robe. She reminded me of Nancy Walker.
Lilly is so much better when she is with Ted. Rafe does nothing for her. Her
voice and composure change when she is with Rafe - which is fake and and
annoying.

John