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From: sboutwel@sandbox.kenn.wa.us (Scott Boutwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: C= Multimedia ad in PC-Week
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:28:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: sandbox.1992Apr10.232849.17237
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Sandbox, Public Access HP-UX

In article <1992Apr09.003045.29010@crash.cts.com> johnl@crash.cts.com (John Lindwall) writes:
>In the April 6 edition of PC-Week, Commodore has a full-page ad.  It
>focuses on multimedia.  The headline reads "Nothing will sell you on
>Commodore multimedia like a few minutes with Apple or IBM".   Next to the
>add is a cartoon of a robber running  away with a bag of money.  The text
>discusses the Amiga's multimedia advantages (NTSC scan rate, overscan,
>AmigaVision, etc).  It also mentions PC/Mac compatibility (with available
>hardware/software).
>
>This is the first time I've seen C= advertise in PC-Week -- its nice to see
>them attempting to reach some new markets.  In my edition, the ad is on an
>unnumbered page between 44 and 45.  Your mileage may vary.
>
>---
>John Lindwall                                    johnl@crash.cts.com
>"...always use the formal attribute mechanisms for changing any field;
>do not poke the objects." -- Jim Mackraz

Way to do Commodore!  Nothing like taking the war right onto the opponent from
porch!  This is the type of agressive advertising that I wish Commodore would
have attempted long ago!

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From: dales@.CCI.TEK.COM (Dale D. Snell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Sprite Fright
Keywords: amiga sprite
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:27:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: The Thumps Memorial Home for the Recursively Bemused

[woof!]

In article <1992Apr7.213420.13627@news.eng.convex.com> sheley@convex.com
(John "Dumptruck" Sheley) writes:
    [[ description of sprite problem deleted ]]
|...and dmouse running as well... 

     Likely that's your problem.  Turn off the mouse pointer blanking in
DMouse.  That should take care of it.  If not, check your screen
centering preferences; you may have the screen too far to the left.

     Hope this helps.

|John Sheley                                          sheley@convex.com
|Convex Computer Corp., Richardson, TX

                                    --dds

Dale D. Snell      dales@tekcci.CCI.TEK.COM      74756.666@compuserve.COM
Requiescat In Pace:  Issac Asimov, 1920-1992
From: trag@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Trageser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Amiga 600
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:16:15 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

Have any of our European readers here bought, seen or heard of a supposedly
Europe-only machine designated the Amiga 600? It's supposed to be a stripped
down A500 selling for about $300 U.S. (or half the price of an A500, for thsoe
who don't have their monetary conversion chart handy).

If you could e-mail me any info you have, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Jim Trageser

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: civir1070@ucsvax.sdsu.edu (FURRY R)
Subject: Re: Suggestion for new AB20 equivalents
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Alphabetical (Except on Tuesdays)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:47:00 GMT

In article <dgold.0a1t@basso.actrix.gen.nz>, dgold@basso.actrix.gen.nz (Dale Gol writes...
>Quoted from <1992Apr6.002740.8749@newshost.anu.edu.au> by markus@makara.mso.anu.edu.au (Markus Buchhorn):
>> A BIG heartfelt THANK YOU to Tad for a great job of
>> setting up ab20 and supporting it well. 
> 
>I'd like to second that. 

Yes, thanks much for allowing such an excellent and important site to exist.

>> Might I suggest that ftp archive sites decide on what sort of software
>> they will archive, rather than trying to emulate/mirror ab20's monolithic
>> archive - [...] we could have
>>
>> (i) A Fish disk and associated software (aquarium, FishCon \etal) site
>> (ii) A Demo site - Euro, other, commercial, etc., and Sound samples ?
>> (iii) A utilities site - all of those neat little programs 
>> (iv) A Game site / Entertainment software
>> (v) An applications site - things that are large programs for various
>>      purposes, as opposed to smaller CLI based programs.
> 
>I think that's a great idea if it can be arranged.

The groundwork is aready in place.  Ux1.cso.uiuc.edu and Grind.isca.uiowa.edu
both have the (almost) complete fred fish collection.  Hubcap.clemson.edu
has a nice collection of 3-D software/utilities, and I'm sure there are a few
other sites that would be able to handle a small load of files...right?

> 
>> What about an incoming/amiga site ? Each site can choose to have
>> an incoming area. If ab20's stuff is split into dedicated
>> archives, and each maintainer knows about the others, (s)he can move
>> stuff as well. 
> 
>One site for *all* incoming stuff could be a very good idea. If one 
>central site for uploading the things that would have gone to ab20 
>could be created, with a directory for each of the areas you suggest, 
>then it should be very easy for each of the sub-sites to distribute new
>stuff in their areas, and People-in-a-Hurry or sites that want to monitor
>everything should be in pretty good shape, too.  Assuming that this 
>could be set up, the Incoming archive could save disk-strain by deleting
>files every week or two knowing that they would be available on the
>sub-sites by then.

Yes, an incloming site is much needed.  This is a VERY good idea.  What about
amiga.physik.unizh.ch ?  It has a very nice Sysadmin, and already has a good
system for listing what each file is.  It seems like that would be acceptable
to use as an "incoming" site.  What does the sysadmin think about this?

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From: thamer@ndl.com (Mustafa Thamer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: MIDI software
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:30:54 GMT
Organization: Numerical Design Limited


Hi,

  I'm new to the Amiga world.  I originally had an Atari 1040, and
then upgraded to a NeXT 68040 Cube.  However, since my apartment
burned down, I can't afford to replace my NeXT and am looking
for a cheaper computer.  One of my main interests (besides 3D graphics)
is using the computer for multi-track sequencing, and patch editing
for a synthesizer.

  I was just wondering if there is any good MIDI software out there
for the Amiga (like Dr. Ts for the Atari or Mac), what additional
hardware would be needed to get MIDI ports, and how much a spartan
system would cost me.

  Any info from people with similar interests would be appreciated,

 	Thanks,

-Mustafa
-- 
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You wanna get out of here - you talk to me.
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From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:  337 shells on an Amiga 500 - WB is **slow**
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:46:31 PST
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Distribution: world
Organization: It's Home, really...

In article <bmccnnll.702519740@unix1.tcd.ie> bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell) writes:
>
>Can you say... "Archimedes" ? ;-)
>
>Barry.

    Yep, my Dad had to use one over Xmas past (the school he teaches at has
them, obviously too much money :-) ). As he is computer illiterate and hoping
to stay that way (...bit of a Luddite, me old man is) I had to work out how to
use one. A little bit different than yer common or garden Amiga/Mac/Windows
environment, but not to much. It would be relativly easy to emulate the 'feel'
of the Archies' GUI on an Amiga with some PD utilities.
    Anyway, my overwhelming impression of the Archies' GUI was SLOW. Once into
an application it humped along O.K., but an Amiga 500 seemed a bit livelier,
Gui-wise.
    A couple of provisos on the above
    1. These are MY impressions, and only impressions at that
    2. I didn't have machines side by side to compare
    3. I did NO timings, mesurements etc (see number 1(above))
    4. I was only running ONE task on the Archimedes, although there were
	a few loaded (in memory? on the bar of icons at the bottom of the
	screen anyhow)

    Note the Followup line, this stuff should really be in advocacy.
    (...at least I hope there is a followup pointer to advocacy! Ah, well
    first try lucky I hope)
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From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga - Did I make a mistake?
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:26:06 GMT
Reply-To: jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <Mark_Skaff.002b@softworx.access> Mark_Skaff@softworx.access (Mark Skaff) writes:
>
>     I have an Amiga, and it seems that all the good software is on IBM.
>For example, if you take Fidonet message readers, there are a lot on the
>IBM, but I can't even find a recent one for the Amiga! Also, (I have an
>A500) to upgrade hardware, it costs lots of money, compared to the IBM
>which is cheap. I am tired of the incompatibility and lack of software -
>Did I make a mistake in getting this Amiga? I can't even lock my COM port
>at 38400 on it... The IBM can do almost any practical application the Amiga
>can do, and more, so would it be wise to get an IBM and have real
>compatible freedom? 

Depends what you want to do :-).
IBM hardware tends to be cheaper than Amiga hardware. On the other hand,
commercial Amiga _software_ tends to be cheaper than IBM equivalents.
Even the PD/shareware stuff.

And the Amiga software and hardware tends to be a lot more compatible than
the IBM stuff.

On the Amiga, there are standard data interchange formats, which 99% of
applications use. On the IBM, there's a minefield of different formats.

On the Amiga, the applications work fine with different display setups
and printers. On the IBM, every application needs its own display drivers
and printer drivers. Windows is a step in the right direction, but (at least
in my experience) is nowhere near as nice or reliable as Workbench.

On my amiga, I can install things and use them with no problems. On my
PClone I seem to spend a lot of the time reinstalling things to try and
get them to work properly.

From where I'm standing, it looks as though single item hardware
compatability is about all you get with the PC. Try anything out of
the ordinary (like mixing a 24 bit SVGA display card with a CD-ROM
drive and Windows) and you start getting problems. Unless you have the
expertise anyway, life is probably simpler with the Amiga.

Besides, for the sort of things I like doing (typesetting, ray tracing,
multimedia, desktop video/animation) I find the amiga applications
better than the equivalent PC ones. And I like multitasking :-).

For business style things (industry standard WP, spreadsheets and so on)
and compatability with PC applications, a PC might be more appropriate.

Basically, decide what you want to do, and go for the system that handles
it best in your price range. For me, that's an Amiga. :-)


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From: rmast@cs.vu.nl (Mast RN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Suggestion for new AB20 equivalents
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:32:04 GMT

On comp.sys.amiga.announce i did find the following article, perhaps it's what
you are looking for:
From: mckeehan@utkux1.utk.edu (William McKeehan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: ab20 going down...I might be able to pick it up
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:26:35 GMT
Reply-To: mckeehan@utkux1.utk.edu (William McKeehan)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc

[ Minor edits for correctness and clarity. -Dan ]

My name is William McKeehan.  I am an employee at the
University of Tennessee, in Knoxville, Tennessee. I
currently maintain the very small ftp site known as
mathsun17.math.utk.edu (128.169.200.117).

After hearing about ab20 going down, I talked with my
local system administrator about replacing this archive
site.  He has agreed to allow me to setup my anonymous
ftp site on a rather large scale...if I come up with
the drive space (i.e., I go out and purchase a drive).

After some price checking I have found that a 1GB SCSI
drive (SCSI was a requirement for my site) will cost
approximately US$1800.00.

Simply, I cannot afford this.

So, I turn to the Usenet community.  If 200 people would be
willing to donate US$10 to the project or 100 people would
be willing to donate US$20, I would be able to purchase
the 1GB SCSI drive, mirror ab20's final state, start
accepting incoming files the day ab20 stops, and then
basically replace ab20 with another archive site that acts
exactly like ab20.

But, in order for this to work, I need 200 people.

This drive will not be donated to the university,
therefore, if the university tells me to take the site
down, then I can give my drive to someone else that
would willing to take up the archive, thus creating
an eternal archive site available as long as someone
is willing to maintain it.

If you're interested (or if you have questions), please
respond to this (via e-mail) telling me how you feel.

Let's do it!

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Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 13:00:23 EDT
From: <AES109@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: IDE drive in A600 (was: Re: A600 specs)

In article <3650@tuegate.tue.nl>, peter@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Peter Korsten)
says:

>But I also know that IDE is NOT the standard for Amiga's. If you look into
>an Amiga magazine, you see all kinds of SCSI controllers advertised, just
>a few IDE ones. Commodore has never put an IDE product on the market (until
>now, that is). The A590 and the A2090 (also the A2091?) did have ST506
>interfaces, but that was, ST506 is dead.

The 590 does not have a ST506 interface. It was originally shipped with
weird 8-bit IDE (only available on the OEM level), but probably comes
with SCSI drives now. The 2091 has an IDE connector on it, too. (Or
space for one). So Commodore has used IDE for years.
From: widyono@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Dan Widyono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: SID 2.0 questions
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:13:37 GMT
Reply-To: widyono@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Dan Widyono)
Organization: UPenn of Phila, PA: BioEngineering Dept.

[Another line bites the dust, WOOF!]

Previously, mohrc@nyssa.CS.ORST.EDU wrote:
[How does one get SID2.0 to recognize PP files and .mod files, etc.]

>I know that this can be achieved through PP patch BUT i have
>other formats that i would also like it to recognize (mod files is one).

PowerPacker Patch (PPP) doesn't seem to work with ToolManager- what happens,
is when PPP is running, and you open a tool with TM which uses CShell (CSH
v5.16 or better), the output in the resulting CLI window will halt until you
press return inside it.  This won't occur when PPP is not running.  I've
tried RunBack'ing it (using the 2.0 version supplied with the SID2.0 Demo
Archive) and nada.  It still locks the output for some reason.  It only happens
to CSH scripts run from ToolManager which need to output (at least, as far
as I've experimented and can tell).  <sigh>

BTW, quite a few formats, including PP and .mod files, are recognized by
1) CSH through its CLASS and ACTION commands, and
2) DirWork through its reconfigurable buttons.

Cheers, Dan.

--
Daniel Widyono					BE PreMed UPenn, Philly, PA
Chord On Blues, Penn Band (Cornet 2)		widyono@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
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for I know I don't belong... here in heaven.		-Eric Clapton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Subject: LHA1.22 and environment variables in general and Snoopdos 1.4
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:15:06 GMT

First, a general question.  What is more efficient, doing a dozen setenv's
in user-startup, or placing all the environment variables in envarc: and
copying everything over in startup-sequence?

	Second, does LHA 1.22 look at it's environment variable as
promised?  Snoopdos does not report an access to env:LHAOPTS.  Same thing
for newlist, but somehow it knows what is in env:NEWLIST, while LHA ignores
LHAOPTS altogether.

	Third, Snoopdos 1.4 and 2.04.  Snoopdos reports that every 3 seconds
the workbench currentDirs()'s to workbench: 3 times.

Thanks,
	Ken
From: aj733@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Hnat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Killchip...where is it.
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:28:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr8.092856.27163
Reply-To: aj733@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Hnat)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell) says:

>In <1992Apr5.174431.21749@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aj733@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Hnat) writes:
>
>>BTW would there be any interest in starting a comp.sys.amiga.demos newsgroup?
>>Mayhaps we could let people on our side of the pond know about any particular
>>needs or quirks with euro-demos. Just a thought.
>
>Try alt.sys.amiga.demos  :-)
>
>Barry.
>
Sorry...don't hop around Usenet too much. I found comp.sys.amiga... and 
expected it to be there.

*8)

[th]

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Weird Clock PRoblem
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:30:35 GMT

douglask@termnet.chi.il.us (Douglas Kasten) writes:
>Ive come across a querk in my system I cant figure out.. My system clock
>apparently seems to be running about 6x faster than normal.

Which system?

Making a blind leap, and assuming that you've got an A2000, the problem
is very likely noise on the 60Hz TICK line that the power supply
provides to the motherboard. A .01 uF cap from TICK to ground should fix
it.
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From: sah@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Sikamikanico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Face it, Amiga's are no good!
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:26:44 GMT
Reply-To: sah@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Sikamikanico)
Organization: Vallen Software

In article <1992Apr7.121925.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au> c9228224@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (McLeod) writes:
)
)  Has anyone ever noticed how Amiganites seem to think that Amigas' are
)the best computers around, despite the fact that no self-respecting business
)would go near them? I mean, lets face it, Amiga's are nothing compared with

Oh REALLY?  Is that why Disney uses Amigas *extensively* in their productions?
And the producers of Robocop 2 used the Amiga for many special effects?  I don't
see movie-makers using MS-DOS for the movies.  *I* sure as hell wouldn't.
Plus, MS-DOS is JUST DOS.. its "Workbench" imitation, MS Windows, basically
sucks.  Those pukey MS-DOS clones can't even compare to a nice Amiga 3000 w/
a 68030 CPU and 25 MHz.  Smell the coffee.

)MS-DOS machines. And, they never will be. Oh sure, they have such pretty 
)graphics, but that doesn't mean zip when it comes down to how good they are 
)to use, now does it?! So come on all you egotistical Amiga users. Get your

Take a PC.  Take a Mac.  Put them together, add some hardware genius, and you
get an Amiga.  Sure, perhaps PCs *may* be better for business, but that's
BORING. :)  Amiga is, in my opinion at least, the BEST computer for creative
minds.

)heads out of the sand and face facts. Amigas' are nothing, they never will be
) and haven't a chance in hell at ever being any better then MS-DOS machines.

Maybe you MS-DOS-huggers are just too xenophobic to even sit down and see what
Amigas can really do.  Some of the higher Amiga models STOMP all over the 486.
Take the Amiga 3000T, or 3000TUX.  The thing is a tower Amiga, with UNIX built
into it.  Plenty of drive space, lots of slots, and FAST.  AND, while the 486
still has to have the same old MS-DOS and MS-Windows, Amiga 3000TUX still has
its lovely 3D-look Workbench, while keeping its speed.

)  
)     Face facts, guys.
)         MR B.
)

You too.  (Besides, what kind of person gets on an Amiga group and flames the
Amiga?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: New FTP Site
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:00:05 GMT


What is the second most popular Amiga FTP site?  I was using ab20 to find
all of the latest PD wares, so now I need somewhere else to check.

-- Gerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: elauren@hubcap.clemson.edu (Addison Laurent)
Subject: Re: ProWrite: The ads must've been BS.
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:04:21 GMT

>In article <318@sousa.ltn.dec.com> Moore@hydra.enet.dec.com writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Mar30.210602.15424@hubcap.clemson.edu>, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>>|>Trust me on this one ... BTW, *Don't* hit <ESC> while you're typing. :)

>  I'll try that <esc> key.

DON'T! I'm the one who told rick about that. Its not hitting escape -
that puts a space on the screen. When you try to spell-check it, it pops
a requestor, "Invalid Word Entered" and then refuses to do anything.
That task freezes. 

Course, this *is* under 1.2, and it didn't seem to bother 1.3.2. So I
guess they did fix this - but for you 1.2 users, DON'T DO IT!

Addison
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