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From: jsherman@cory.Berkeley.EDU (JOHN SHERMAN)
Subject: !!!!!!!  For Sale  !!!!!!!!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:52:56 GMT


PPPPPP   MMM      MMM  IIIIIIIII           22222222
PP   PP  MMMM    MMMM     III            22       222
PP   PP  MM MM  MM MM     III            22       222        $150.00
PPPPPP   MM  MMMM  MM     III                 2222
PP       MM   MM   MM     III              222
PP       MM        MM     III            222 
PP       MM        MM  IIIIIIIII         222222222222

What do you think?? Annoying?

  Well, I would like to thank everyone for their response to my post
asking for the fair value of my NEVER BEEN USED PMI 2.  Everyone was
very helpful.  I am going to be asking just under the average ofthe
quotes everyone gave me which is $150.00.  I am doing this because I 
want to just get rid of the thing (and pay off my credit card).

  Once again, the PMI 2 is a pistol paintgun with ~12in barrel. 
It is all black and has never been fired.  The plastic  ring is still
on the trigger assembly.  I am selling it because I bought it a few
years ago (for well over $200) and was accepted to school at the same time
and just lost interest.  From everyone's response, this is a very
durable and accurate gun.  It can be fitted with all sorts of neat
options too. It comes with a 7oz. back bottle and the squeegee.  It is
still in it's box as well.

  I also have a safety mask as well.  It covers the ears and
temples as well as the whole face.  The fog resistant goggles can
be replaced.  This is held on by a thick elastic band.  This too
has not been used and is still brand new.  If you like your face,
you need this mask.  $29.00

  I also have a sniper veil.  It is camouflage green and adds
quite a nice touch.  I'll give this away with the gun.

 

If you are interested or have any questions or comments, please let
me know.  I can be reached at (805)929-5440 or at my e-mail address 
jsherman@cory.berkeley.edu

      


 





  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: Gary_Ponting@mindlink.bc.ca (Gary Ponting)
Subject: Games in the Snow
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:45:07 GMT

Has anybody got any fields near them that provide games in the snow. I would
imagine they would be quite entertaining providing that the proper camo was
available. I can see the first game where you come across some fresh tracks
and start stalking your enemy. I think they would be quite entertaining.

Later<>Gary

Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: kovar@world.std.com (David C Kovar)
Subject: Modifications for the PMI-3 to make it easier to take apart?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:42:27 GMT

  I bought a used PMI-3 (thanks, John!) with a bottom line setup and a
Spart Parts barrel that I am quite happy with. The only problem with it
is that it requires time and hex wrenches to take it apart, which makes
it impossible to service in the field and time consuming to service at
home. Are there any standard kits to make it easier to break down? Even
more interesting, are there any standard kits to make it easier to adjust
the velocity? Thanks, in advance.

-David
From: ejimenez@terapin.com (Eduardo Jimenez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintballs w/o paint?
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:19:16 PST
Organization: BBS

Jason Hyerstay writes:

>What about clear, water filled paintballs, sinc the object was not to get too
>messy...

Yeah, it will stop the goo. But if you break a ball, your next shot will still
spin. I don't think these new balls know the difference between paint in the
barrel or water in the barrel. Dunno, just my thought. :-)

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Paintballs w/o paint?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:06:18 GMT

In article <D91-POO.92Dec23211336@dront.nada.kth.se> d91-poo@dront.nada.kth.se (Per-Ola Orvendal) writes:
>Sounds a bit absurd, but I'm actually looking for some "paintballs"
>that do *not* contain any paint, but that can be used by regular

Interesting question...the only "non paint" pellet I've heard about was the
herbicide filled ones that the DEA uses.  Suppose to kill weeds and such.
I don't think you would want to shoot with .68 wooden spheres either.
*ouch*  Ever try Cal-Magnum paint with the extra tough shell?



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From: bru@cc.bellcore.com (25815-leary)
Subject: Indoor Fields in NJ
Reply-To: bru@cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Piscatawy, NJ
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:34:38 GMT

Does anyone know if there is in fact an indoor paintball field in
Garfied , NJ ....... or anywhere else in the NJ/NY metro area, for that matter.

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From: ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: TV: US Nationals
Date: 31 Dec 1992 22:02:20 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: picasso.dmsv.med.umich.edu


Hi - 
    For those of you in the Michigan area, PASS sports (Prime affiliate)
is broadcasting the US Nationals on Jan 2,1993 at 2pm.

-Alex

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: How to handle strong top spin ?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 21:41:34 GMT

In article <tl3alr4@zuni.esd.sgi.com> davidc@topspin.esd.sgi.com (David Chu) writes:
>In <BzBAvB.5MK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>
>>the top Hungarians (Jonyer, Klampar, Gergely) and I'm sure Grubba 
>>and Bengtsson used Anti. Also all three Seemillers and the Boggans 
>>(except their dad Tim.. I think he used hard rubber). Cai Zhenhua 
>>(one of the few Chinese shakehands loopers) also used Anti.

>Actually none of the Hungarians you mentioned, Grubba, or any of
>the top Swedes use(d) anti.  Since the Hungarians were fierce two-winged
>loopers they all used inverted on both sides.  Grubba does also, I believe.
>Bengtsson used short pips on his backhand, using it to control rallies before
>ending it with a forehand kill.  Cai Zhenhua was one of the early loopers to use
>anti on his backhand to go with his incredible forehand, but when the 2-color
>rule was enacted, his world ranking dropped quickly as everyone was able to
>figure out his game once they knew what rubber was being used.

I'm pretty sure they did, having come across mention of it in 
TT Topics articles back then. They were pretty good flippers so
they did loop off the backhand. 

I remember distinctly an article about Jonyer (one heckuva spec-
tacular looper) after he had retired. It mentioned that he had a 
sports shop in Budapest and had just switched to Super-Anti on the
backhand (Super Anti had just been "invented"). 

>As for the Boggans, father Tim uses regular short pips with sponge on both
>sides, older brother Scott used inverted on both sides, and Eric uses
>anti on one side and inverted on the other.

The Boggans and Seemillers play this strange style where they hit the 
backhand with the same side unless they want to use the Anti. Eric Boggan
used the Anti to serve and to return serves to keep the ball as short as
possible.

>As it's been stated already, few top players today use anti or long-pips
>because of the offensive nature of todays game.

Remember though that you have to be able to control your opponent's 
attack as well, and also have to able to return serves short.




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From: an1060@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Paddles for Sale
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.sport.table-tennis
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 16:37:44 GMT

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Hello,

I have the following paddles (with rubber) I wish to sell...

Pen-Hold
^^^^^^^^
1. Friendship Blade, with Super-729 FX (red), New, $20.
2. Butterfly Blade (Chinese Style), with D13 (red), New, $15.

Shake-Hand
^^^^^^^^^^
1. Friendship Blade (7-ply), with Super-279 FX on both sides (red/black),
   New, $25.

Please reply to:  mantell@ams.sunysb.edu

Thanks

Abe

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From: sandkuyl@seri.philips.nl (Henk Sandkuyl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: Serving
Date: 2 Jan 93 12:07:30 GMT
Reply-To: sandkuyl@seri.philips.nl
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Manish Malhotra (malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu) wrote:
: In article <MOSCHE.92Dec25172549@vipunen.hut.fi> mosche@vipunen.hut.fi (M}ns Holmberg) writes:
: >
: >>   If after tossing up, I decide that my toss wasn't good enough, and I
: >>   catch the ball before it comes back to the board level, do I lose the
: >>   point too? I think this is allowed in Tennis, but I am not very sure
: >>   about TT. 
: >>   Jit.
: >
: >or not. There is no difference if the ball dropps to the floor or not. Most
: >umpires would aword a point to your opponent if you try to hit the ball, and
: >otherwise not regard it as an attempt to serv. You can allways claim that
: 
: That is correct. If you attempt to serve, i.e., if your hand
: holding the racquet (paddle) moves while the ball is in the air in
: an attempt to serve, then you lose the point. If however, as soon as
: you toss the ball and realize that it is poor toss and choose to 
: not serve, then you might as well let the ball fall to the floor (or
: catch it) and not lose the point.    
Unless the rules changed the last year or so, this is not correct. The serve
starts when you have to ball steady in your (open) hand. If you toss the
ball and not serve you loose the point. If your playing leaguage matches
at my level (rather low), the players have to be referee as well and normally
don't call this a bad serve. In my club however we have an official referee
who is in active in the highest leaguage in the Netherlands and used to be
in European and World championships. He also plays leaguage matches himself
and when he played in our team, he called the example you described a bad
serve and gave the point to our opponent.
At my level a number of things are not called by the referee, but should
be according to the rule book.
Anyway, if I'm wrong, please let me know. It would give me something to
argue about with the referee at my club.
: 
: Manish

Henk,
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: sangst2@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Thongchai Sangsiri)
Subject: I am confused.
Summary: Speedglue banned?
Keywords: regluing
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:29:50 GMT

Could someone tell me if regluing during a match is legal/illegal?
What is a speedglue?  I read some article about banning speedglue
some time ago.  Is it true?  Why?
		Thanks
		  Ts.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: sangst2@jec303.its.rpi.edu (Thongchai Sangsiri)
Subject: More TT gifs
Summary: The applgren.gif is really great
Keywords: TT Gifs
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:14:44 GMT

To who ever posted the picture there.  It was a really nice picture.
Could you post more(w/color)?
Ts.
From: donh@gcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Don Holzworth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: speedglue banned
Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:44:56 GMT
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale, FL
Distribution: ssd
Reply-To: donh@gcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Don Holzworth)
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In article <168C4D31A.M16302@mwvm.mitre.org>, M16302@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
|> Reglued rackets sound different.  It may be possible to check re-gluing with an
|> acoustical spectrograph.
|> Another obvious possibility is to have tournament players check in their racket
|> s before they leave the playing hall.
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Seriously? If I run an under 50 player tournament where I try everything I
can to just break even you want me to have an acoustical spectograph?
I can just imagine how much one costs. Then I have to learn how to use it,
not to mention that with the different types of woods and rubber how
accurate is it?

As for checking in rackets, you want me to assume responsibility for 40+
rackets, each costing $75+? I cannot afford the liability insurance, not
to mention that I cannot get enough help now, but you want me to
do something which will add to the number of people required. 

Why not just let those who want to cheat do so? I'll enjoy playing with
the 99.99% who won't and when I think someone is cheating, I won't play
with him. If it's a tournament, let the cheaters have whatever advantage
they can get. Life is too short to spend trying to make imperfect people
conform to rules some are bound to break. For the major tournaments,
let the national bodies supply people to enforce whatever rules they
want to. That too is beyond what I'll ever care about.
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From: mosche@vipunen.hut.fi (M}ns Holmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: Serving
Date: 25 Dec 92 17:25:49 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland


>   If after tossing up, I decide that my toss wasn't good enough, and I
>   catch the ball before it comes back to the board level, do I lose the
>   point too? I think this is allowed in Tennis, but I am not very sure
>   about TT. 
>   Jit.

It depends on the umpire. The question is was the toss intended to be a serv
or not. There is no difference if the ball dropps to the floor or not. Most
umpires would aword a point to your opponent if you try to hit the ball, and
otherwise not regard it as an attempt to serv. You can allways claim that
you did not intend to serv, if you happen to make a bad toss. Very few umpires
(or opponents) would oppose you in this case.

Bye
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From: ckuan@fraser.sfu.ca (Chiow Min Kuan)
Subject: Re: I am confused.
Keywords: regluing
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:32:08 GMT

sangst2@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Thongchai Sangsiri) writes:

>Could someone tell me if regluing during a match is legal/illegal?
>What is a speedglue?  I read some article about banning speedglue
>some time ago.  Is it true?  Why?
>		Thanks
>		  Ts.


     Beats me. I think we really need a confirmation here.

  -Chiow Min Kuan-
    
 
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From: ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien)
Subject: Re: Xu/Cheng`
Keywords: doubles
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:50:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.165302.24494@wam.umd.edu> hxu@wam.umd.edu (satellite) writes:
>
>
>It is great that the match was televised on a major channel like ESPN.
>Remeber the olympic final was showed only for a minute?  I think the
>tournament director Bob Allshouse and his partener have done a good job.
>I agree with those who think the final wasn't as exciting as last year since
>my team was much stronger than the other team.  I wish the English team or 
>the Canadian team had come.  Since some people keeps questioning me about the   doubles, I confess that ESPN paid us $100,000 to dump the match. NOT! 
>Exhibition matches are common even in very important competitions.  In 1990 
>World Cup,  Perssion and Waldner drove the crowd crazy by counterloop, 
>lobbing and smashing.  I am not saying our match was that good, but at least
>it made the final a little more interesting, and I believe a lot of people      liked it.  It certainly looks better on TV.  Doesn't that help to make the
>sport more popular?  Is there anything wrong with that?  I don't think so.
>
>
>										Huazhang Xu

Im going to have to agree totally. I think if the ITTF could gather an
'invitational' where they could recruit only players who like to counterloop-
matches like, Appelgren v. Grubba nd televise it on ESPN, TT could really
take off in the US.  I saw a match at the USOpen Teams that pitted Lu Lin
against one of the Japanese college(?) players. I was absolutely AMAZED.
Both players were willing to drop to mid-distance and counterloop like mad.
This, I said to myself, has gotta be what the US has to televise! The second
best match I saw at the tourney had to be Wang Tao v. Lu Lin. Granted, these
two are doubles partners, but they put on some show against each other.

-Alex


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From: sdg@wag.caltech.edu (Siddharth Dasgupta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: ESPN Timings
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:14:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: na
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If someone knows the ESPN schedule of table-tennis games
that they broadcast, that would be very helpful. Thanks

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From: pauln@loopkill.EBay.Sun.COM (Paul Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: World Doubles Cup/US Nationals
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:20:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 9412@med.umich.edu, ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien) writes:
> Could somebody please post some results to the US Nationals and the
> World Doubles Cup that's happening this weekend in Las Vegas,US?
> 
> Thanks!                                                     
> 
> -Alex
>  (couldnt make it to Las Vegas due to final exams UGH.)
> 

Men's Singles
=============
1st: Jim Butler
2nd: David Zhuang
3rd: Khoa Nguyen & Danny Seemiller

Woman's Singles
===============
1st: Amy Feng
2nd: Lily Hugh
3rd: Diana Gee & Insook Bhushan

Men's World Championship Team
=============================
1st: Jim Butler
2nd: Sean Oneill
3rd: Danny Seemiller
4th: Khoa Nguyen
Alternate: Todd Swerris

Woman's World Championship Team
===============================
1st: Lily Hugh
2nd: Virginia Sung
3rd: Wang Wei
Alternate: Peggy Rosen


Paul




Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: : speedglue banned
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:29:03 GMT

It looks like we're on to sportsmanship.  Apple is a wonderful example.  Us
old timers remember some different sort of examples  -- like a US Open final
where one of the finalist purposely used the opponents towel to upset him!
A more recent example is in the World's in N. Korea.
   As for judging re-gluin by the sound, it doesn't take an ear with perfect
musical pitch to tell if a ball is striking a recently reglued racket! Given
such a suspicion by direct observation, more sophisticated physics could be ...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: sieh@panix.com (Liquid Tide with Bleach)
Subject: Re: table tennis suppliers list
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:27:49 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC
Keywords: suppliers, proshops, equipment

Excellent.  Now this belongs in the FAQ.  Also, a slight omission I noticed
was with Satellite Inc.  I've misplaced the info unfortunately :-(.

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From: hxu@next12pg2.wam.umd.edu (Huazhang Xu)
Subject: Address, please
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:17:01 GMT

This is a message for Mr. Kuang-Ting Liu.  I lost your email address.   
Could you send it to me, please?  Thanks.

Huazhang Xu
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From: syuen@sierra.com (Shan Yuen)
Subject: Request of World Ranking
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:02:44 GMT

Could someone post the World Top's 20 Mens and Womens TT players?

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