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From: sprother@nyx.cs.du.edu (stevyn e prothero)
Subject: colorado rave digest
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 03:21:33 GMT



Big-o special phat greets to U and eye wish ye all phun 93!!
now lets move onto the colorado rave report. -hendy

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: rave?
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:48:20 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.) writes:
>
>> There is no flame intended in my following question, whatsoever.  Your
>> comment leaves me wondering why, if you don't like raves and, seemingly
>> you have never attended one, do you read this newsgroup?
>
>I'm not Eric, but I'm going to butt in anyway.  You'd have a hard time
>getting me into a rave unless I knew the DJ from the net or had some
>similarly compelling reason to go -- I'm a misanthropic bastard, and don't
>see any appeal in being in the company of large numbers of people I don't
>know and have little or nothing in common with.  Nevertheless, I still
>read alt.rave, because it's a good place to find out about music I'm
>interested in from people whose opinions I trust.
 
Eric here. Thanks Lazlo (and BTW I finally found the Bomp mag--be patient!) :)
I am a skinny pasty-faced guy who likes to dance but I fully smypathize
with Lazlo.
I guess the real reason I don't go to raves is that I feel I am past
the phase in my life where I like to go out to socialize with large groups.
What's more is I have never gone for the "unity and brotherhood" thing
and drugs stronger than caffeine (PC for alt.rave to say that :)!) don't
interest me.
 
So why read alt.rave? Because I like TECHNO! TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO! Love the
stuff! Nuff said!
 
There was a time when I felt inclined to create a seperate newsgroup for
techno, but a couple guys named Pete convinced me to give alt.rave a chance.
So now I have a place to get Techno info and a few laughs as well. :)
 
>Is someone going to take away my alt.rave card now?
 
Naw, that would be elitist!
We can't have elitism! All elitists SCRAM! Oops! :)
 
--Eric
(We're supposed to get membership cards??) :)
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
Detroit, Michigan  USA         I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
                                     breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
 
"It's called 'Techno'."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Magazines (was Re: SASSY rave article)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:43:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.004157.3568@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (ha
wkeye) spews:
>PS:  This doesn't really belong here, but, I was just listening to the
>Pet Shop Boys, as I always seem to be, and I was just wondering if
>someone could confirm if "How can you expect to be taken seriously?"
>is about Paul McCartney, like I've always thought it was, or is it
>about someone else?

It's about Sting, actually, or so I've heard. :)

As for the Sassy article, I must be the only one who doesn't think it
should be burned and the writer hung upside-down from her toenails.  I
just sent them a letter a little over a month ago praising them.  Please,
flames to /dev/null.  I don't think it's a sin that she doesn't think techno
is the music of the gods, nor do I think everyone should take it so hard that
she didn't have a good time.  I am friends with a lot of straightedge
ravers, and they've pointed out to me that as fun as raving is, the drug
use is really, well, pointless to someone who doesn't use drugs.  I don't
have a problem with it, but I know what it feels like to be alienated like
that, hearing all these cheezy drug-reference samples and being surrounded
by a roomful/clubful/fieldful of people using drugs/alcohol.  Obviously
the scene doesn't have to be so centric around the drug use but from her
description it sounded like that event in England was just that.  Since her
perspective was that of a straightedge person, it doesn't sound like that
great of a time.  Left to my own devices, I'd choose to dance around the
house with a few of my friends or alone with the headphones instead of
trying to dance in a muddy field all night in the rain with thousands of
people tripping/Xing/pissing out of their skulls waiting for the Prodigy
to not show up.  I don't care if the vibe was so great all 40,000 people
there were having an orgy, I'll stick to being boring, throwing private
mini-raves in suburbia, where I don't have to put up with all the crap
Christina did.  Is writing letters telling her the only reason she didn't
have a good time was because she's got a bad attitude really going to be
worth it?  Come on, how can you expect to be taken seriously when she's
listed a half dozen reasons why going to this 'real rave' wasn't so
marvelously romantic as it was 'supposed' to be?  (someone shoot me
before I include another pet shop boys reference, please)  My questions
are rhetoirical; I just wanted to toss an opposing viewpoint into the
Sassy-bashing people are trying to stir up.  Humbly, mike
-- 
                                                            Mike Brown
_  _ _____________________________________I think, therefore I ambient
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Toronto rave scene
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:22:47 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 12-21-92 17:20
  Just wondering is anybody from Toronto was catching this newgroup; 
the rave scene here is pretty awesome.  I was at Chemistry last 
Saturday (19th), and it ended up being really good (even after having 
to line up at the beginning in an un-heated enterance area).  Lots of 
attractions including a full Virtual Reality game room (two machines 
were hooked up; for $10 you could run around in a virtual world and 
try shoot the person playing on the other machine.  There were 
monitors hooked up so you could watch from the 'outside' -- it looked 
really cool.  I forgot to go back and play though (oh well...)). 
There were the usual chill-out rooms with moving lava-lamp walls, and 
a rubber house set up.  Tire swings and a small maze-like effect 
rounded it off.  The sound was pretty good (6 mid-side sets of 
speakers), as was the music (there was a smaller techno room as well 
as the main rave area).  DJs were from Toronto and the UK.
  Looks like the scene is constantly getting better... there now 7 
rave-lines in the (416) area.  Next weekend is going to be 'Rave 
Flakes' (from the producers of Loon-E-Toons), with a number of other 
really good ones in the next two months.  Have numbers for the 
Sykosis, Pleasureline, Nitrous, Exodus, Chemistry, Chaos Connection, 
and Infinity rave-lines. If you are in TO, or plan to be, you can 
email me for them (they were one a business-card flyer I got).

Email: rev@cibbs.uucp, or see origin on this message.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: Re: Want To Throw A Rave
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 10:43:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.214556.29578@news.ysu.edu> ah431@yfn.ysu.edu (Evan P. Roth) writes:
>In a previous article, KXS137@psuvm.psu.edu () says:
>>Anyway, we started to talk about rave and by the end of the discussion we
>>decided that where gonna throw a "rave" here at Penn State University next
>>semester when we come back from X-mas break.  

We're working on setting up a "micro-rave" down here at U of
Maryland.  We already have a student group, the RaveCoalition.
We've already had a rather impromtu micro-rave during a all-nighter
in the student union (around 10:00 someone said, "hey, since
the union will be open late, lets go grab CDs, a big amp, and
some speakers, maybe a laser and a strobe light", and boom, we
were going).  Hopefully our next one will be a bit larger, 
with better music, and 2 CD players + tape full of neat samples +
mixing board.

-Thomas
 resident technoshaman
From: ack@carson.u.washington.edu (Andrew Ackerman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: BPM Mailing liList
Date: 30 Dec 1992 09:09:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

I'm in NYC, don't know where to go.
Can any kinD soul out there tell me where I might find a _raVe_?
PleAse reply via e-mail.
-thanks
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: DCRAVES
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 11:29:09 GMT



ANNOUNCING DCRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Official description:

* This list is dedicated to the burgeoning rave scene in the Washington
* D.C.-Baltimore area. it is intended to be a free-form "chatty" mailing
* list, with reviews of raves, reviews of dk's, announcements of
* upcoming events, a weekly calender, and discussions about the scene in
* general.

Unofficially:

We hope this can be a way of bringing the DC/Balto electronic raver
scene together.  This list is not a replacement for NE-RAVES, nor
for alt.rave, but simply another level of regional specificity.
Clearly there is much interest in Raves in this area, and the
DC-Baltimore scene is becoming a very good one, offering a good
mix of trancy and hardcore beats.  And heck, maybe we all can get
together sometime!

TO SUBSCRIBE TO DCRAVES:

Send email to listserv@auvm.american.edu, and include this
in the first line of your message:

SUBscribe DCRAVES <your_full_name>

Thereafter you can send mail to dcraves@auvm.american.edu, and
it will go out to the rest of the list.  There are also some
neat listerv commands you can access...send "HELP" as the
first line of a message to listsevr@auvm.american.edu for more
information.


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Zen and the art of International Arguments (was a big waste of bandwith)
Keywords: Hmmm,Hummmm,Get the new Gat Decor 12" and Leftfield - "song of life"
Date: 23 Dec 92 10:38:47 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
Eric slags me off severely here .... so I'm too embarrased to include it !    
>"....slag slag....."
>"...bah humbug..."
>"..etc.."
>".........etc........."

I could have said
"I am not a number , I'm a free man.."
but
A) It would be a lie :)
and
B) It really is a teensy bit corny !

Hey , maybe I should write presidential speeches .... reading that post of mine
again , I didn't know I had it in me :)

I've also just noticed that I pushed the "don't call me British line" then
mentioned a "UK vs US" battle .... I don't know , maybe I'm just a pretend
nationalist .... Sorry , it's just I reply in haste and repent at leasure .... I
really should think before I type !

have a good Christmas y'all :^) - what sort of pipe is that ? It's too small for
a water pipe !

you just dance and sing along ......
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
(Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... he bought me a drunk then
charged me by the hour for it .....:)

Musical Fantasies (number 2 in a series of ~infinity) 
At a rave ....
"Gonna get ya higher and higher ...."
Repeat 50 times
"spurg splurg wheeeeeoooowwwwww (loud techno noises deleted)"
A women now walks up to me and has my children , right in front of the entire
crowd .....
Nine months later , the baby is born , and to the shock and amazement of the
hospital staff , a 17 year old kid is born ... complete with "you know the
score" mask , and a complimentary bottle of vicks ....



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VIve La France ... etc .... 
Steve
From: drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: rave?
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:49:26 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire
Keywords: rave



can I get a FAQ for this news group?

I have a few questions LIKE:

o   what *is* a rave?
    (to tell the truth, it sounds like a bastardization of an acid test.)

o   why have the name "rave", why not just call it a big party?
    (sorry if the question sounds cheesie --- so does "rave")

o   Is the music limited to techno billion BPM disco new/wave/age/noise....
    (read "why couldn't you call a grateful dead concert a 'rave'"?)


please don't get (that) mad, I'm just trying to provoke a good description.
I noticed tears dripping off my screen when I read the replies to the 
sassy article, and I wouldn't want to get all of the "love" people throwing
rock's at *me*, (if you are going to paint a bulls eye that large, you 
have to expect someone to shoot at it.  :)

no really, I'm just wondering, they do sound interesting.

-- Danny
From: kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave-oriented Bbs
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:00:04 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long) writes:

>Hotel Chelsea Bbs
>(206)432.6904
>Running GremCit as the main bulletin board.

>Tends to focus on the entire spectrum of cyber culture:
>techno, industrial, music in general
>various concerts and cultural bulletins
>rave info, stories, horrors, jollies
>hacking and all the naughty things they do
>different famous people enjoying anonymity (no I won't tell you who they are)
>etc, etc.  Including, soon to have, the Northwest Musician's Directory.

>Much, much more.  Give it a call.  The sysop doesn't care who you are.

Is there any way of accessing this via the Internet?

Cheers.


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (hackers schmackers)
Subject: Re: Most Commercial Rave.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:27:01 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, tedwards@wam.umd.edu said about 'Most
Commercial Rave.': 
|In article <1992Dec24.161115.9991@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg
|ipp) writes: 
|>He makes it sound like a rip-off of the 1960s Tim Leary days.  Why 
|>can't we ever be given our OWN culture, our OWN identity?  Everything 
|>is compared to what older generations did yesterday...  
|
|Because we are only part of grand cycle...raving is just a modern
|expression of a beat and a feeling locked deep inside the psyche
|of humanity for eons, expressed, stifled, supressed, and
|expressed once more.

That's all well and cool, but don't you think that cycle is evolving?
for it to contunue to evolve, it should be likened to the past, but
also seen in a new (strobe-)light.....

I actually give the generalized-stereotyped-popular-media a lot of
credit in this historical sense

(ohhhhhhhhhh,  Blue Room on Commercial College RADIO alteralertalertalert)
[hope your nuclear techno-shelters are well deconstructed]

ok, now that I'm zoning on the electro-waves of the Blue Room, I'll
try and get back to what I was originally subjectively subjecting
to...

I actually give the generalized-stereotyped-popular-media a lot of
credit in this historical sense - seeing it as a mostly new culture
wit a little 'o dee ole.....Personal-e I don't even trust too much
anyone who DOESN'T liken rave to the 60's in some hyper-dimensional
sense or another.....

[booooooo, they played the 3minute edit on the detachable penis
corporate-college radi0.....bah......If it's under 40minutes it's not
worth z0ning 2......=)  ]

At any rate, Timoth-e Lear-e is into raves....There's a reason for
that...don't deny it in your mind, don't deny it in the media, don't
deny it to other ravers, just try and realize why he likes raves, and
movin' on up from there.....Raves are much more than Leary and the
60's we all know that, but if we don't learn from the past we can't
move forward.....

|-Thomas
| resident technoshaman


2day I took food from the hand of a starving child....

happ-e holi-daze....chew your food slowly....

--

    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: ibacon@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Ian Bacon)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: FAQ Request
Date: 1 Jan 93 00:21:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Yes, I would also like a copy of the rave faq.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (hawkeye)
Subject: Re: SASSY rave article
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: rave review
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:34:55 GMT

Well, it truly was sassy...I'll give it that much....

She/he had an attitude...that's clue #000000001.....

She cared what people looked like, how people danced, what people
chose to do with their own bodies, and found no sense of community in
40,000 people gathered together in pouring rain....And, she didn't
like techno....Hey, sounds like a recipe for fun at any rave,
kidz...=) 

The Linda Evangelista comment had to be the low...

And, PS, I watch those cheezwhizzy "Fashion" shows on VH1 and CNN, and
rave fashion (w/o the "accessor-ez") is all over the world, not to
mention that magazines like Details, GQ, Vogue, and I think cosmo have
had "rave fashionspreads", among others.....

--

    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: Re: dir/new
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 11:16:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.120336.1@fnala.fnal.gov> tannenba@fnala.fnal.gov writes:
>What kind of clothing does
>one usually wear to a rave? So many music genres have their own "uniform", I'm
>wondering what it is for this one. 

Gack!

OK, I'm better now.  Clearly there is a definable "RaveWear" kind 
of thing.  Hats are often wore, think Cat-in-the-hat style,
I've seen a hat with gloves sticking out of it like antlers.
Colors are very big, and shirts pants with multicolored 
sections on them, like a dazzling lightshow.  

But what should you wear?  The answer is, whatever is comfortable!
I snagged a "RaveWear" t-shirt once, and wore it to a techno club.
The &^#*(#!! plasticy lettering on it nearly wore my nipple down
to skin level.  I think spending 6 hours dancing in sweaty
clothes will make many guys much more aware of their chest area!

So I have gone back to wearing what I wore to my first rave,
a black cotton button down shirt, which my females ravemates
enjoy helping me unbutton when I get too hot ;) and it also
has long sleaves that can be pulled up and buttoned down into
short sleaves so I can go from cold to hot areas.  And I
genrally wear jeans, since they tend to be tight enough not
to chafe badly, but are preferable to spandex when you have
to walk outside in the cold.

Theoretically, at a rave, it should not matter what you wear.
It's not like anyone is going to really care what you are
wearing anyway, although I do admit sometimes feeling a
little out of place in my colorless rave suit, thought I try
not to worry about it.  

I did just invest in about $60 of nice RaveWear, but gawd,
I wouldn't wear that expensive stuff to a rave and get it
all disgustingly sweaty!

-Thomas
 resident technoshaman
 
 


Newsgroups: alt.rave