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From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: Return of the R*sh Wars (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:26:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.011630.3494@sco.com>, stewarte@sco.COM (just a guy made of dots and lines) writes:
|> 
|> Why is it that Rush fans always assume that people who don't
|> like Rush just haven't heard them?  That if we sat down and
|> listened, the gleaming light of Rush's greatness would shine
|> into our souls so brightly that we could no longer deny it?
|>

Dunno.  I happen to enjoy a lot of Rush's music, though I no longer listen 
to them as avidly as I once did.  It seems for some reason that most people
either love or hate Rush, there doesn't seem to be a lot of people in the 
middle.  If you like Rush, fine - don't preach of their greatness to those who
don't like them.  If you don't like Rush, don't flame their fans with how bad
you think they are.  There's no point in it as you're not going to change
anyone's mind by flaming each other.

(This isn't directed at you, Stewart, I think Rush can be a bit pretentious,
also, and I like the band.)

Chris Hudson
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From: fwong@bnr.ca (Frank Wong)
Subject: SPRINGSTEEN MAILING LIST
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:29:08 GMT

Thanks to all those who replied to my request for a SPRINGSTEEN
mailing list.

For anyone else interested in being added to the list :
send email with REQUEST in the header to 
   backsteets-request@fuggles.acc.virgina.edu

Frank

P.S. Is there a list of the email addresses of mailing lists somewhere ?
     e.g. How do people find out what mailing lists are out there and
           how to subscribe to them ?  Sorry if this is a stupid question.
           Please post, I'm sure others are interested.




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From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:28:45 GMT

falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:

>ok but there are some serious holes in this.. a person only knows that
>something is black because he thinks it is... or has been told it is... the
>same goes for white... he thinks it is white and therefore it is white...

Oh, I see your point.  But what if I were to say, "Something white can
be destroyed, but white cannot be destroyed, and that is why the meaning
of the word `white' is independent of the existence of a white thing."?
Certainly it makes no sense to say that the color white is torn up or
pounded to bits.  But don't we say, "The white is vanishing"?  And don't
clutch at the idea of our always being able to bring white before our
mind's eye even when there is nothing white anymore.  For suppose you
cannot remember the color anymore?  When we forget which color this is
the name of, it loses its meaning for us.

-- Clay
      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
				-- Stephen Grossman
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From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: NEW Matthew Sweet: Goodfriend
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:50:08 GMT

I'm still writing out a full-length review, but I wanted to make Matthew
Sweet fans aware of the promo-only CD:

	Matthew Sweet -- Goodfriend -- Zoo/BMG ZP17098-2

It's been out for awhile (sent mostly, I think, to radio stations), and
copies are disappearing quickly.  I picked my copy up at a record store
called "Mod Lang" in Berkeley, and a friend found a copy at a store in
NYC.

Basically it's a collection of alternate versions of songs from the
"Girlfriend" LP, some acoustic, some recorded for radio broadcast, and some
live.  It's quite a find (even at $15-20).

I'll get a review together in the next few days.

-dx
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From: mcadamw@coch5.alleg.edu (William McAdams)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:36:04 GMT

Niel Peart's lyrics are a load of pretentious shite, stop
wasting bandwidth with a pointless defense of them. What the
hell was your point in printing that useless, out-of-context,
philosophical pearl of wisdom from a pseudo-intellectual? Are
we supposed to be impressed, by that drivel?

Anyhow- as top 10 bands go- here's my list:

1.The Beatles- revolutionaries in every sense
2.The Rolling Stones- Keith Richards........
3.The Who- best live band, fave guitarist Pete Townshend
4.The Replacements- in many ways they defined rock n' roll
5.The Clash- exciting,  
6.The Velvet Underground- invented "alternative"
7.R.E.M.- today's best band
8.Ramones- invented "punk" 
9.Led Zeppelin- some of the best riffs ever created
10.Rush- just kidding......

BILL
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Psychedelic Music
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:06:45 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Distribution: rec
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

if by psychedelic, you mean circa 6669,
-of the top of my head:

grateful dead - anthem of the sun
jefferson airplane - after bathing at baxters
iron butterfly	- ina-gadda-da-vida
love	- forever changes
byrds - notorious byrd brothers
hendrix - electric ladyland

(strangely there are no english bands in that)
so..
pink floyd - piper at the gates of dawn
	or
	     a saucerful of secrets
soft machine - volume one

and in you are really desperate -
moody blues - in search of the lost chord


dr doom the optimist
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From: brewer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (marmoset)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: top 10 bands of all time (the correct list)
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:31:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

seeing as no-one has posted my opinion on this, I present the following defin-
itive listing of the true top 10 bands of all time.

In no particular order:


Sex Pistols
Robert Johnson
Led Zepplin
Parliament/Funkadelic
James Brown (pre-incarceration era)
Velvet Underground
Jimi Hendrix
The Ramones
The Beatles

hmm one left...

Jeesh! of course, nirvana (or do I mean Pearl Jam, or Mudhoney, or Soundgarden,
or Green River, or Posing Scuzballs, or ....).

No, it cannot end this way....

hm.

I'm gonna have to say AC/DC simply because I think Angus Young is the funniest
man in rock-n-roll.

So, there it is.  No need to dispute it, as I have yet to be wrong about 
anything.




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From: mxb1517@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.X. Blair)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bands with self-titled songs?
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:05:31 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: mxb1517@ultb

>In article <BxvpqD.Ayn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> csedlack@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Sedlack) writes:
>=>How about "They Might Be Giants" by They Might Be Giants?
>=>(On the _Flood_ album_)
>=>
>=>Chris Sedlack
>=>
>=>csedlack@uiuc.edu
>=>
>=>

Bad Company and Iron Maiden are two more ...

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From: geoffrey@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geoffrey R Mill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: UPDATE: what's in a name !  L7 explained
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:34:05 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <malcolm.722321464@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>dfong@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>>L7 - supposedly because it makes a square shape when written,
>>so the band can be called either L7 or 'square',
>>or is that 'box' ?
>>Oh darn I've forgotten it now, let's have a ban of synonyms !!
>
>Could be wrong as I'm trying to retrieve data from aged and fermented
>grey matter, but isn't L7 one of those orbital points in space from 
>earth where a perfect orbit or stationary object could stay fixed
>above the planet without changing orbit or position? And as such it
>is perceived as an ideal point for a space station? I could be wrong,
>perhaps that's L3, or L5 or something, but I think there's a society
>of folks interested in exploring space with the same name, with 
>SF author Jerry Pournelle being a vocal member. 
>
>  - Malcolm  

I could be wrong, but isn't L7 a vaginal lubricating cream. The reason I
heard this is that I was watching "The Word" (British show for young folk) the
other night and the lead singer from L7 pulled down her shorts to reveal
all to the cameras. The press had a field day the next day, and some even
went as far as to try and explain the name L7.

Just thought I'd mention it!

Geoff.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: mccombj@alleg.edu (The Great Gazoo)
Subject: Re: Who did this song?
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:30:25 GMT

In article <ivy.721872838@camelot> ivy@camelot.bradley.edu (Ivelisse  
Atiles) writes:
> In <1992Nov15.214131.4569@muddcs.claremont.edu>  
karaki@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kurt*z* S. Araki) writes:
> >There was this song called "Eileen" and it sounds like an Aussie  
band...
> >I think it came out in the early eighties (I have faint memories of my
> >babysitter watching mtv videos with that song)... anyway, who does this
> >song? Do they exist anymore? Any help is appreciated...
> 
> Was it perchance "Come On Eileen" by Dexy's Midnight Runners?
> Was it a video with a bunch of guys in overalls?
> I don't remember where they were from, though, sorry.

Yup, I think you're right.  Yes, they wore overalls, but I don't know  
their origin either.  I do, however, remember that the album was entitled  
"Too-Rye-Ay" and that they (unfortunately) never had another hit.

Am I the only one who still loves this song?

Regards to all,
Joe.
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From: andyy@visionware.co.uk (Andy Yates)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: All about Eve new LP
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:36:40 GMT
Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is there any chance that someone could give their
opinion of the new "All about Eve" album please.
How does it compare with "Touched by Jesus" in
terms of style, and is it all of the same genre
as the "Phased" EP.

Thanks,

Andy


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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:42:54 GMT

mcadamw@coch5.alleg.edu (William McAdams) writes:

>Niel Peart's lyrics are a load of pretentious shite, stop
>wasting bandwidth with a pointless defense of them. What the
>hell was your point in printing that useless, out-of-context,
>philosophical pearl of wisdom from a pseudo-intellectual? Are
>we supposed to be impressed, by that drivel?

Are you talking about my .sig with the quote from Niel?  You'd
better be able to back up what you say.  I thought it was
pretty deep.

What's wrong with it?

-- Clay
  	   "If we take in our hand any volume; of divinity or
	    school metaphysics, for instance, let us ask; does
	    it contain any abstract reasoning concerning 
	    quantity or number?  No.  Does it contain any 
	    experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact
	    and existence?  No.  Commit it then to the flames,
	    for it can contain nothing but sophistry and
	    confusion."
				-- Niel Peart
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Junior Birdman" Lyrics Wanted
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:55:13 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <1992Nov17.133003.1796@nlm.nih.gov> neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve) writes:

>My wife remembers this song from her Brownie (or Blue Bird?)
>days which begins:

   Up in the air junior birdman,
   Up in the air upside down,
   Up in the air junior birdman.
   Get your feet up off the ground.

>Unfortunately, there is another stanza which she can't remember.
>Does anyone know it?

>Leif Neve


I learned:
   Up in the air junior birdmen,
   Up in the air upside down,
   Up in the air junior birdmen.
   Don't let your noses touch the ground. 

   And when you hear the grand announcement 
   That your wings are growing thin
   Up in the air junior birdmen
   It's time to send those boxtops in!
 
   You need: five boxtops, four bottle bottoms, three labels,
             two wrappers and one thin di-i-i-me!


Don't forget to sing the entire song with the appropriate gesture:
thumbs and forefingers together forming a circle, hands upside-down
over the eyes so that the heels of your hands are towards the ears and
your fingers are cupping your chin, elbows straight out (got that??)

Betsy (showing her age)
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Subject: PSB mailing list
From: gause@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:59:14 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

Does anyone know the address to the PSB mailing list???

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: croth@scott.skidmore.edu (catherine roth)
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs Info
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:30:04 GMT

they've been around for about eight years, i think.  as far as the
name goes, i have no idea, but i do know that lead singer natalie
merchant had a long time relationship with r.e.m.'s michael stipe a
few years back.  kind of vague info, but that's all i know.
                                              cathy
From: JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu (Joseph Dresnok III)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: cd question
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:00:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: auvm.92320.170020JDRESNO
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

I have a question.  Is there any reliable bootleg (don't usually use
_reliable_ and _bootleg_ together much) CD company?  Can anyone make any
recommendations?
And, has anyone heard of any Phish bootleg CDs existing?  I realize that
there is a large quantity of Phish tapes out there, but CDs would be
great.
Thanks,
   joe
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From: dmlieber@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stu)
Subject: Re: UPDATE: what's in a name !  L7 explained
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:51:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.195055.17105@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin) writes:

>I missed the beginning of this thread, but in "Wooly Bully" by Sam the Sham
>& the Pharoahs there's a line "Let's not be L7" where L7 means "square" as if
>you were putting the 2 characters together.

I don't know how long it's been since the rest of you were in grade school, 
but I can still remember those days myself, unfortunately.  Back then, and
I'm assuming it is still used, if you said someone was L7, it meant they
were square.  I've read this same reasoning in about 5 interviews of the
band, and if I really wanted to, I could even give references, but I'm don't
care that much, so I won't.  In this case, it has nothing to do with space
orbits, vaginal creams, or songs by other bands.  It is merely a term from
the grade school days of the band members.

Stu
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Promise me nothing, live 'til we die.
From: courtney@podunk.cps.msu.edu (Jonathan Courtney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Mark Brzezicki (drummer) question
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:02:16 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University


  Does anyone know the whereabouts of Mark Brzezicki (former?) drummer for
Big Country?  The last time I saw him was on B.C.'s _Peace_In_Our_Time_.
Is Big Country even in existence any more?

							Jon
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Movie stars in rock videos
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:30:38 GMT

Donald Sutherland in Kate Bush's "Cloudbusting", as a canonical example.

And I blush to say that I didn't notice >any< of the ones you mentioned.  I
thought that guy in "Rush Rush" looked familiar...  Oh, I did notice the ones
in "Black And White".  The kid's name is Macaulay Culkin, of course.

And, of course, Cher counts in her videos...;-}  (And, heck, Reba McEntire and
Tom Waits too.)

Hmmm...do ones from soundtracks count?  If they're just showing scenes from the
movie, I would say not, but at the end of "You Could Be Mine" by G'n'R, Arnold
does actually make an appearance...

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From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: 2 songs: who did them? - thanks
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:23:13 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunstroke.sdsu.edu

Thanks to all who answered my questions.

the two songs seems to be:

"I'll Melt With You" by Modern English from their 1983 album 'After the Snow'

"Send me an Angel" by Real Life from 1989

I'll check them out next time I go CD hunting.

Derek
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From: paul@baby.csd.harris.com (Paul Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: I like these, Now what?  (was Ray Shea Goes Ballistic)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:31:50 GMT
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Div.  Ft. Laud. FL
Distribution: world
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M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>  [...]    Rather than posting a list of ten bands
>and considering it as some absolute benchmark, the people who make up
>this 'cadre' would be more apt to post a list of 10 things and ask
>a question such as 'These are 10 things that have really blown my
>skirt up recently.  Can anyone tell me about similar things?'    [...]

OK, I'll start.  Here's some recent acquisitions that I really like:

Juliana Hatfield:   EP 'Forever Baby'
This is 3 tracks from the CD 'Hey Babe'-- "forever baby", "nirvana", and
"everybody loves me" plus two others-- "raisins" and "tamara".  I'd
describe it as "alternative pop" sometimes with a heavy guitar edge.
All of these are very good, but I haven't bothered to get the 'Hey Babe'
CD yet.

Blake Babies:  'Sunburn'
I bought this at the same time as 'Forever Baby', since Juliana Hatfield
is the principal "singer/songwriter" for this band.  The first JH/BB song
I ever heard was "Star" from this album.  I was impressed enough to file
"Blake Babies" away in my memory for future investigation, but never got
around to it until I heard "Everybody Loves Me" from JH's solo album.

The Guess Who:  'The Best of the Guess Who'
(not to be confused with the other "greatest hits" collection)
I've always liked the Guess Who from what I'd heard on radio.  This CD
contains most of the tracks that I'd remembered plus a few that I'd never
been exposed to.  Of the songs that I hadn't heard before, "Do You Miss
Me Darlin" is probably my favorite, and "Bus Rider" my least favorite.
In all "Share The Land" is my choice for best track on the CD.

The Go-Betweens:  'Liberty Bell and the Black Diamond Express'
My first exposure to this band was the '1978-1990' anthology which only
included "Spring Rain" from this album.  Since I'd never seen a copy
of any of the pre-anthology albums, I snapped this one up as soon as
I saw it.  Not as diverse as the anthology, but nonetheless very good.
My favorite track is probably "Twin Layers of Lightning".


So the common denominator here seems to be simple but interesting
songwriting characterized by competent but not overly flashy musicianship
(that's kind of vague, I guess).

Anybody want to recommend something along these lines?


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