HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dm@cv.hp.com (Dennis_Muscato)
Subject: Re: Trouble getting Trumpet to work
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:33:17 GMT

Eric Forbis (forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct30.133327.8706@newstand.syr.edu> eplester@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Edward A. Lester) writes:
: >Newsgroups: news.software.readers
: >Path: news.cis.umn.edu!umn.edu!paperboy.micro.umn.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!wupost!udel!intercon!psinntp!newstand.syr.edu!rodan.acs.syr.edu!eplester
: >From: eplester@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Edward A. Lester)
: >Subject: Trouble getting Trumpet to work
: >Message-ID: <1992Oct30.133327.8706@newstand.syr.edu>
: >Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
: >Distribution: usa
: >Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 13:33:27 EST
: >Lines: 10
: > I have installed Trumpet on my PC and can use it to sign
: >on to the local news machine. I can then list the groups
: >but when I try to subscribe it creates a line in my
: >configuration file indicating that there are no unread
: >articles. I can never get to read articles even though
: >I know that there are many articles in groups I am
: >subscribing to. Could someone provide guidance as to
: >what I am doing wrong? Thanks.
: >                                 Ed Lester
: >                               Syracuse University
: 
: I had the same problem when I began using Trumpet 1.05g, and though the 
: reader's now working, I'm not sure what the problem was. I got things 
: rolling by editing the news.ini file, deleting the final 0 after the 
: newsgroup name; for example, "news.software.readers Y". If no posts were 
: yet evident, I "Unread" the groups. Something clicked; I only did this to 
: a few groups, and have had no problems since. 
: 
: I occaisionally am unable to read groups, but this is usually due to either 
: a lack of recent activity or a site with restricted distribution.
: 
: Good luck,
: ---------
: 
: Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu

How do I get a copy of trumpet?
Thanks,


- Dennis Muscato
                                               
  Information Technology Dept     Direct:   503-750-3700  Pager: 503-750-7670
  Hewlett-Packard                    Fax:   503-750-4689  
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  Corvallis, Or  97330         HP hpdesk:   dennis muscato/hp6400/ux
From: kbeal@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Ken Beal)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Compressed mail...
Summary: looking for info on compressed mail
Keywords: compressed mail
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:57:44 GMT
Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
NNTP-Posting-Host: rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com


	Recently (a day or two ago?) someone posted saying they were
using ZOOed mail (or some other form of compression, I can't remember
which).  Is this widely used?  It sounds like a GREAT idea.  I'd like
more information, if possible; our mail expires daily, and it would
be nice to have it last 2 or 3 days; with compression, I'm sure we'd
have the disk space (if not the managerial okay 1/2 :).

aTdHvAaNnKcSe
--
Kenneth L. Beal, Jr.			kbeal@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com
"I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" - MST3k
"Street person my responsibility." - Indigo Girls
The opinions expressed above are true.  The preceding sentence is false.
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Using command line to save groups to a file?
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:22:51 GMT
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]

David Jamieson (jamieson@netcom.com) wrote:
: >:
: >: I want to be able to write all unread messages (as indicated in .newsrc)
: >: to a file and update .newsrc.  I must be able to do this from the command
: >: line, since I want to include the command in a script file.  This
: >: command:

Use 'tin -S -c' to catchup the articles as read as they are saved.

Iain

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From: csstddm@brunel.ac.uk (David Martland)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: xvnews 2.0
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:55:04 GMT
Reply-To: csstddm@brunel.ac.uk
Organization: Brunel University


I'm currently testing out xvnews 2.0 and find it very useful. I'm comparing it with tin, which I
also use.

It seems to have the following advantages:

	1. It has a pleasant user interface and works under X and OpenLook.
	2. The mail and post facilities are good and easy to use.
	3. The default editor seems to be textedit - which is easy to use.
	4. While using the mail facility it is possible to browse through other news.
	5. It automatically includes the contents of the .signature (home directory)
	    file when sending mail.

It has a few disadvantages:
	1. It does not support threads at present like tin.
	2. Cross posting of articles is not so easy  - it needs cut and paste using
	    the editor.
	3. It may be slower than tin

-------------------------------------


                       David Martland
                  Dept. of Computer Science
                      Brunel University
                       United Kingdom

                  David.Martland@brunel.ac.uk
                  Tel: 0895 - 274000 ext 2139
                  Fax: 0895 - 256186
 
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott)
Subject: Why is trn slow sometimes?
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:22:21 GMT

I use trn as my news reader on a Sun.

If I am at the thread selection screen, and I type a command like 
/interest/
to select threads that have that word in them, it takes forever to do it. 

Anybody know why?

--
Joel Iott
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: crj@a.site.name (Default Trumpet User)
Subject: install Tin 1.16 on HP 9000/730 HPUX 8.0 ?
Keywords: tin
Organization: Industrial Technique Research Institute
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:59:03 GMT

Hi, news world !
  I am a beginner of this wonderful world.
  First, I want to install Tin 1.16 on my workstation HP 9000/730 HPUX 8.0.
I met some trouble for this.
  1. cannot find include file sys/ptem.h
  2. cannot find include file sys/bsdtypes.h
Where can I get this two header files ?

More question:
I heard something about NNTP client daemon. What's that ?
Is that daemon necessary for my install Tin ? 
If so, how can I get this NNTP daemon ?

Thanks in advance.
Internet: crj@nm.itri.org.tw
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: acttimes.c?
Organization: Borland International
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:41:48 GMT

chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin) wrote:
> I'm  looking for a copy of the acttimes program to use with B news and rn
> 4.4. I've checked ftp.uu.net, but if it's there, it's hiding quite well. Any
> pointers would be appreciated.

The only place I know it to exist (and I wrote it) is in the trn 2.x
distribution.  On ftp.uu.net this would be in the news/trn directory.
Also, I'd be glad to mail you a copy (or anyone else for that matter).
The program maintains an accurate active.times file when C news isn't
around.

..Wayne..
From: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk (Benjamin Middleton)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: *Tin under X?*
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:42:46 GMT
Reply-To: cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk
Organization: Brunel University


I would also be interedted if a splendid looking tin is available. I use
xvnews 2 (which runs under Openwindows), but it does not support threads. A
pain once youve got used to them.

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From: mcolquho@cs-acad-lan.Lakeheadu.Ca (Michelle Colquhoun)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: MAC PLUS NEWS READER WANTED
Keywords: MAC PLUS READER
Date: 5 Nov 1992 20:10:53 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University


I am running system 6.0.7 and MacTCP version 1.1.1 on a Mac Plus with
1MB.  Multifinder is not running.  I have not been able to get TheNews 
or NewsWatcher to run on this system.  

I have tried to run TheNews and NewsWatcher on a Classic with 2MB, and a 
Classic with 4MB (same system configuration as above) - all with the same 
results.

Does anyone have any advice?

Michelle Colquhoun
Lakehead University
Thunder Bay, Ontario
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: kevinc@ups.com (Kevin C. Castner)
Subject: Local tin with tind
Organization: UPS Research & Development
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:17:29 GMT

I'd like to compile tin (version 1.1 PL 6) to read the news articles from an 
NFS mounted filesystem, and store the indexes in the .index directory of
that filesystem.  This would allow us to not enable NNTP on our network.

I don't see this scenario described in the INSTALL file.  If anyone could
tell me how to do it, I'd appreciate it.  Or, if anyone could tell me
why I shouldn't do it that would be great.

I am running a network of sun sparcs, on 4.1.2.  I don't have NNTP running,
and haven't the faintest clue as to how to make it run. (which is why I
don't want to enable NNTP).  If it is really easy, then I would consider it.

Thanks for all the help.
-- 
    ======================================================================

      Kevin C. Castner                           kevinc@ups.com
      Unix Administrator                         United Parcel Service
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: dan@engr.latech.edu (Daniel Len Schales)
Subject: Distribution header in tin
Summary: no distribution header
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:18:31 GMT

Why does tin not include a default distribution in the
headers of outgoing articles? I think by placing one there
it encourages users to put a distribution on outgoing
articles. Or perhaps this is configuration problem? 

Anyway just a thought...

Danny

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sbpress@csws20 (Gregory Forte)
Subject: Re: Global usage of .index with tin
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:18:45 GMT

parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403) writes:
: Assuming one has tind set up to create one '.index' directory
: on each machine, how do you get the default '.index' directory
: to be the global one for all users without having them type:
: tin -I /usr/spool/news/.index
: 
: ?????????
: 
: Thanks
: -- 
: % Brenda Parsons                  
: % Currently at Prospect Electricity
: % 10 Smith Street, Parramatta 2150, Australia
: % +61 2 635 0300              e-mail:   parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au        



will the alias 
alias tin tin -I /usr/spool/news/.index work?
From: ucbked@athena (Earl H. Kinmonth)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: batch mode readers
Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:21:14 GMT
Organization: Centre for Japanese Studies, Univ. of Sheffield
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jp1ek@sunc.shef.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena.berkeley.edu

which, if any, of the commonly available readers can be used in
batch mode (command line mode)?
-- 
earl h. kinmonth, centre for japanese studies, university of sheffield,
sheffield, england s10 2tn  jp1ek@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Is a 132-column wide display in trn possible?
Organization: Homosexual Fascist Lobby, Rampant Paranoia Division
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:47:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.040659.3526@digi.lonestar.org> kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher) writes:

>When I view the threaded news menu in a window configured as 132 columns wide
>(bsd 4.3), the lines are always truncated at column 80.  This is particularly
>annoying in newsgroups like comp.binaries.os2, where postings can have many,
>many parts.  It is important, when using the "e" command to extract these
>programs, to verify that the parts have been all posted at your site IN ORDER.

It's not.  Look for the `unc' program at an FTP site near you; you can
feed all the uuencoded article parts to this program, even for
different packages, and it'll collate them, sort them, and strip off
their headers.  I believe it'll even uudecode them for you.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu / I use antlers in all of my decorating.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
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From: spencer@stroke.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.unix.shell,comp.lang.perl
Subject: off-line processing of kill files
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:15:54 GMT
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: Live Organ Transplants

This resulted in a blank article on the first attempt, which I have
cancelled.  Sorry if it's a duplicate.

CROSS-POSTED TO: news.software.readers, comp.unix.shell, comp.lang.perl
FOLLOWUPS TO: news.software.readers

I was pretty sure this would be a FAQ but I've just read the rn kill-file
FAQ and it isn't there.  If it's in some other FAQ list, sorry.

A few of us are wondering if there's any way to have your kill files
processed off-line (say, with a cron job or something), so as to
minimize the time spent waiting for the kill files to be processed when
you're actually reading news.

It doesn't really bother me personally, but a friend of mine says he has
large kill files and it sounds like an intriguing challenge to me...  I
thought maybe this would be do-able with a shell-script or Perl but if
someone else already has a working solution... :-)

-----
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"The subtle, truly debilitating manifestations of a degenerate society are
twofold.  First, the ruling class no longer cares for the proletariat.
Second, the proletariat no longer cares."  [J. G. Betancourt, "Johnny Zed"]
From: demde@beach.csulb.edu (Emde David K.)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: nnmaster gets 502 errors from nntp server
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:28:25 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Help,

every time nnmaster finishes reading from the nntp server on a seperate
machine and then wakes up to read again it gets the error:

 N: Nov  2 14:50 (M): Failed to connect to NNTP server
 N: Nov  2 14:50 (M): Response: 502 dtd-server NNTP server can't talk to you.
 Goodbye.
 N: Nov  2 14:50 (M): Can't access active file --- terminating

and /tmp/nnmaster.log:

<<< 502 dtd-server NNTP server can't talk to you.  Goodbye.


It seems like something is going wrong after nnmaster terminates
a collection and the nntp server either can't handle it and restricts me
or doesn't reset something.

Has anyone experienced the same problem or give me some advice to isolate
the problem.

I have nn running on a Sun Sparc 2 with os 4.1.1
nn 6.4.18
server running nntp -- NNTP server version 1.5.11 (10 February 1991)

Thanks in advance
Dave Emde
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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: syscrc@pickle.gsu.edu (Randy Carpenter)
Subject: nntp.access file wildcards
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:37:22 GMT

The current(1.5.11) nntp.access file syntax is...

    host/net/*domain.suffix/address   read/xfer/both/no  post/no  newsgroups

So you can allow any hosts in your domain to read news with a line like:

    *.domain.suffix	 read            post

Are there any plans to allow for hosts not in the hosts table or nameserver?
Specifically, the following syntax...

    host/net/*domain.suffix/address.*   read/xfer/both/no  post/no  newsgroups

So you can allow any hosts in your domain (w/o a formal name) to read news:

    131.96.*.*           read            post

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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: eric@erix.demon.co.uk (Eric Cafritz)
Subject: INN - getting news from remote server
Distribution: world
Organization: Coudert Brothers (Paris)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:17:59 +0000

I get my news from a remote server via nntp under SLIP.  The remote server
only sends me news when I ask for it.  Using the "reference implementation"
for nntp, I run the command "/usr/local/bin/nntpxfer gate" to get news
on demand from the remote server "gate".  This command reads the groups
I want and the time from a file called "nntp.gate" in my /usr/spool/news
directory, fetches the batch from gate, and works fine with C-News.

I am converting to INN on my local system, and it is running nicely to
feed news via nntp down to my local feeds.  But is there an INN command
equivalent to the one above to get news batches on demand from a remote 
server?  I do not want to keep C-News and the nntp reference implementation
around if I don't have to.

Tips appreciated.
---
eric@erix.coudert.com or eric@erix.demon.co.uk
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Problem with INN throttling for symlinks
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:02:49 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In news.software.nntp, article <KATZ.92Nov5123704@hen3ry.Stanford.EDU>,
  katz@rpal.rockwell.com writes:
> 
> carbon{root}%ctlinnd mode
> Server throttled File exists writing symlinking article file -- throttling
> Parameters c 14 i 0 (0) l 1000000 o 238 t 300 normal specified
> Not reserved
> Readers separate enabled
> 
Your active file is hosed; innd crashed before writing it out, so that 
article IDs are assigned twice and the old file is still present.

% ctlinnd go "" && ctlinnd renumber ""
  to take care of the problem,
% expire && makehistory -un
  to clean up the data base inconsistencies which the crash has left.

The "makehistory" step will take a while. Use "makehistory -ub" instead
if you suspect that some corrupted files are lying around in your news
spool.

-- 
If guns are outlawed, how will we shoot the liberals?
-- 
Matthias Urlichs  --  urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de   /(o\
Humboldtstrasse 7 -- 7500 Karlsruhe 1 -- Germany  --  +49-721-9612521     \o)/
From: szymon@uci.agh.edu.pl (Szymon Sokol)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Newest NNTP for SunOs 4.1.x ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:07:12 GMT
Organization: University Of Mining and Metallurgy

Which is the newest version of NNTP for SUNs running SunOS 4.1.1, 4.1.2 ?
Where can I find it?
TIA,

                                   Szymon Sokol
                                   Network Manager

     U     U  M     M  M     M     Computer Center
     U     U  MM   MM  MM   MM     University of Mining and Metallurgy
     U     U  M M M M  M M M M     ave. Mickiewicza 30
     U     U  M  M  M  M  M  M     30-059 Krakow, POLAND
     U     U  M     M  M     M     TEL.    +48 12 338100 EXT. 2885
      UUUUU   M     M  M     M     TEL/FAX +48 12 338907

     "The reward of a thing well done is to have done it"  -- Emerson
From: duong@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu (Duc Duong)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: [HELP] Follow up include article is not working.?? BUG??
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:19:54 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi..

I am using inews (nntp1.6) and rn4.4 running on an SGI and SUN
machine. The "F" key which is used following up and include article is
not working. I always got the following message as I send the article
out.

inews: Article rejected: news included more text than new textArticle
appended to /usr/users/duong/dead.article
A may be temporarily found in /usr/users/duong/.article..

(re-entering cbreak mode)

Does any one have suggestion or way to get around this...
E-mail please. Thank you..


					Duc
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: INN, ftp site wanted.
Date: 5 Nov 1992 11:19:31 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <2af7fae9.b45c@grace.cri.nz> srghcxp@grace.cri.nz writes:
>Ok, where is INN, any ftp sites around?, I've read the FAQ but it
>doesn't mention ftp sites.
Fixed in next FAQ:
  Subject:  Where can I get it?
  The official archive site is ftp.uu.net in the directory
  networking/news/nntp/inn.  Archie current lists over 30 archive sites;
  three other international sites are grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr in
  pub/unix/news/inn, munnari.oz.au in pub/news/inn, and src.doc.ic.ac.uk in
  computing/usenet/software/transport.

>I presume from my reading that INN is considered to be the correct
>news system to install?, (in preference to C-News, will I loose
>any functionality?)
If you feed lots of UUCP sites the C News batching are more admin-friendly,
and INN does not yet support Geoff's "nov" indexing.  Both of these
will change in time.
/	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: stabosz@chopin.udel.edu (Rae Stabosz)
Subject: Re: Summary: Problems & Solutions getting INN to work
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:08:57 GMT

In article <1e08diINNkce@apache.dtcc.edu> weave@apache.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) writes:
>I am proud to report that Delaware Technical & Community College is now a
>usenet news site.  I've been fighting for this and internet access for
>over four years.  It feels good to finally join the rest of the world. 
****

Hello and welcome to all my Del Tech colleagues and friends!

	Rae Stabosz
From: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: (INN) expire and history permissions.  help..?
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:17:24 CST
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin,  Milwaukee, WI

Here's a good question for the ol' INN experts out there.    I seem
to have a majority of the bugs worked out (i.e, I can NNTP back
and forth!).   However, locally, on the server, there's a nasty one....

I have problems with expire.    If I run "expire" as root, then I
end up with my history files in a permission mess (all get chowned
to be owned by root), and innd dies.  (can't read the history file,
since it's EXPECTING it to be owned by news, not root).

No matter what file protection/etc I use for the history files, expire
seems to trash whatever I've set and cause everything to die.

The second alternative (which makes better sense to me anyway) is to
run expire as 'news', not 'root'.   When I try this, I get the following
error:

cannot open history.n in "w" mode, Permission denied.

....and after that, innd is permanently 'reserved'.   In this case,
none of the expire stuff gets done either.
[and ALL the news hierarchy is owned by "news"]

So, if I run expire as root, I'm hosed.  If I run it as news, I'm hosed.

help.....?


-- 
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