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From: awb7h@virginia.edu (Andrew W. Bartelt)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: University of Virginia Mathematics Department
	<1992Dec15.221946.4501@news.cs.indiana.edu>
	<UEMURA.92Dec17090846@ashura.isl.melco.co.jp>
Distribution: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:01:38 GMT

In article <UEMURA.92Dec17090846@ashura.isl.melco.co.jp> uemura@isl.melco.co.jp (Joe Uemura) writes:


   Are there any good books which one could use as a tutorial to learn TM?

   Joe



As far as I know the official position of the TM movement is that
Transcendental Meditation as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can ONLY
be learned from qualified teachers.  These are the people you give
your money to.

I have read that it is impossible to learn TM except from a teacher,
and I am inclined to agree.  I have been doing TM for 2 years, and my
experiences with it are that it is so easy and effortless that only a
person could explain it.  In my opinion, there are two things that the
teacher does that no book can do which is to give you the "correct"
mantra and give you the mental technique to use it.

As one TM teacher once told, one of the first instructions in learning
TM is to close your eyes -- how could you read the next instruction in
the book if your eyes are closed?

In the US TM centers/teachers list themselves in the white business
pages under Transcendental Meditation and in the yellow pages under
meditation instruction.  Perhaps Japan is the same way.

As for books that teach an unofficial version try 
Benson's Relaxation Response

I read it and tried to do his meditation, but I found it very
difficult to do for any length of time.  TM on the other hand I have
been able to do twenty minutes twice a day for two years quite easily.

:-) Andrew
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:34:01 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

ren_just (rjus@uonline.com) wrote:
: I challenged you on this before, and you came up with a less than truthful
: answer.  Can you please tell us exactly how much it costs to configure a
: UNIX system with your "cheap" solutions.  And then when you are done with
: that, calculate how much the learning curve is going to cost the place
: because they are a DOS house only and don't know UNIX.  For all of the
: installations that I have done with TBBS, it comes out dollars ahead over
: what a UNIX installation would have cost.

Not that I want to enter the TBBS vs. Unix wars but your last
statement is clearly untrue.  Larry's negative attitude towards TBBS
(which, BTW, I happen to like very much, despite its limitations
for some applications) is mirrored by your own negative attitude
towards Unix so I suspect you haven't done much research into Unix
solutions and pricing.  The cheapest way to go multiuser is with
Coherent ($99) and one of the PD source code BBS distributions
available at net archive sites.  Bang... a multiuser BBS for less
than a hundred bucks.  Want more lines?  Add a dumb Digiboard.  Want
database capabilities?  Use Bourne shell scripts (included with
Coherent).  It may lack dBASE file compatibility but it also allows
you to employ all the power of Unix (sed, awk, tr, spell, etc.) plus
any custom extensions you have laying around or have downloaded from
the internet... support for which, by the way, also comes included
with Coherent (uucp), which also means support for Usenet via other
PD programs like TIN, cnews, etc.

Coherent is the cheapest and isn't a spec Unix but if you want a
full-blown Unix you can still go it cheaper than with TBBS.  ESIX
discounts for $499 and USL is coming out with (or has recently
come out with) a cheap SVR4 Unix.

There's no generic BBS user so there is no generic BBS application
and no generic operating system for it to run on.  The point is that
if you WANT to run a Unix BBS it can be done cheaply and effectively.
For all its capabilities, TBBS is still an extremely pricey way to
go, which isn't unknown in the Unix world either.  Commericial Unix
BBS programs like TeamMate and Coconet are, IMHO, carry obscene
price tags vs. value, especially given what one can do with a little
ingenuity on a stock Unix box.
-- 
Stephen Manes					   manes@magpie.nycenet.edu
Manes and Associates/Commontech-NoHo		   New York, NY, USA  =o&>o

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: vrv@cimage.com (Victor Volkman)
Subject: Sysop Modem Discount Report #18 Available
Organization: Cimage Corp, Ann Arbor, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:59:36 GMT


            Sysops Modem Sale Programs -- SYSMOD18.ZIP -- 09-DEC-92
                Straight Talk About Modems For Sysops Since 1991

    [INTRODUCTION]

         You may have heard that various modem manufacturers offer
    discounts on high-speed modems to qualified sysops.  However, you will
    soon find yourself chasing down every BBS in the country trying to get
    all the details.  When you get the details, you still have to sort
    through and find out who really has the best deal.  Since I've spent a
    couple years doing this for myself, I figured other people would like
    to save the time and trouble as well.  I've been a Sysop since 1988
    and would like to help anyone else along that I can!

    [HOW TO GET SYSMOD18.ZIP]

    HAL 9000 BBS:  (313)663-4173  1200/2400/9600/14400 v.32bis
                   (313)663-3959  1200/2400/9600/14400 v.32bis

    ftp:           pinto.cimage.com (or 139.171.201.125)
                   latest version in /pub directory
From: Steve_Cole@forge.uucp (Steve Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: QWK
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:15:10 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Forge BBS (Student non-profit BBS - No E-mail replies please!)

   The Forge BBS is pleased to announce that it now supports QWK bundling.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

  Sysop - The Forge BBS (2.3 Gig, 12 lines, CD ROM, Dual 16.8k HSTs, et al)
  ------------------------------
  Dial (613) 544-6448 HST Multiline
  forge.uucp (No e-mail access yet-please do not reply e-mail)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
From: rob@skylinx.sa.com (Rob Cartaino)
Subject: In Search of NAPLPS/ANSI Graphics' Standard
Organization: Scientific Atlanta, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:34:00 GMT

Can anyone help me find a copy of the BBS graphics standard NAPLPS?
It's documented by ANSI (ANSI-X.2.110-1983) and the Canadian Standards
Institute (CSA-T5000-1983).  Where do I find these documents?

Thank you,

[=]Rob

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rob@skylinx.sa.com
From: larry@gator.use.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: UNIX BBS Software
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:10:18 GMT
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745

steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:

>>o Easy to use commands (nothing cryptic).
>I would recommend looking at waffle.

he said not cryptic!


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keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: sfrazier@norstan.com (Steven E Frazier)
Subject: Re: Info Wanted! x.25 software
Organization: Xenitec Consulting Services, Kitchener, ON, CANADA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:32:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.212309.18617@lasernet.co.za> aris@lasernet.co.za (Aris Stathakis) writes:
>In <1992Dec15.193012.8169@uvm.edu> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
>
>>From article <BzBE2q.Hv2@news.rn.com>, by larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder):
>>> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
>>>>experience with hooking it into an x.25 Pad, it is supported by the software
>>> 
>>> Actually, you could have a front end to the TBBS machine which rlogins
>>> into the TBBS machine -- or connects via serial lines into a TBBS system
>>> using a dumb terminal emulater..
>
>>	When we were looking at the possibility of getting such a beast,
>>from the information I had gathered, we could buy sort of an "intermediate"
>>box (like the dumb terminal servers we're currently using) that would allow
>>one to hook their serial cables into it, with the other end connecting
>>to the PAD.  Unfortunately, I never went beyond that stage, so I can't
>>really comment on it any more, but it sounds somewhat like your second
>>suggestion.
>
>
>We're running such a beast now under SCO UNIX.  Our PAD is an internal
>EICON X.25 card running their drivers (*REAL* Nice I might add).  
>
>Everything is transparent to the user and _VERY_ reliable.  I wouldn't
>touch an external standalone pad with a 10-foot-anything after using
>an internal pad.
>
>Our BBS software is UNIXBBS, but that could be anything really.  The
>X.25 connection is treated as any other tty login.
>
>By the way, the EICON card an route IP over X.25 at the same time as being
>a dialout/dialin pad, all transparently.  I am truly impressed with this
>card.
>
>No connection of course :-)  Just a happy customer.
>
>Aris
>
>-- 
>Aris Stathakis        Tel:+27 11 887 4220 |Gimme a beer and money sandwich -  
>SCO Unix Support      Fax:+27 11 887 1141 |Hold the bread. - Waldo D.R. Dobbs
>Lasernet (Pty) Ltd    X25: 06550 11642692 |_________________________________
>P.O. Box 78446, Sandton, 2146, R.S.A       Internet: aris@lasernet.co.za

Checkout "The Software Group" (wayne@software.group.com).  They have an
excellent X.25 board and software.  Support is excellent.  I am a very
happy customer.


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Voice 614-785-7335 Fax 614-785-7337 | Remote: sfrazier@norstan.com
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Subject: Maximus + Network Conference and Mail
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:45:05 GMT

I have the Maximus BBS package and would like to join a network or two
(FidoNet and FrancoMedia, which I presume to be FidoNet compatible).

I already have downloaded Front Door.  What other software do I need
and what is the standard setting?  i.e.  do I really need Front Door?

The documentation of Maximus gives examples with Squish.  Is this
enough?

Thanks in advance.

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Xref: sparky alt.bbs:7510 alt.bbs.internet:4705
From: lemon@unssun.nevada.edu (John-John)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet
Subject: (603) Windham/Nashua/Concord I-net bbs?
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:16:13 GMT
Reply-To: lemon@unssun.nevada.edu (John-John)
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

Hello!  Hope you have a...Happy Day! :)

Anyhow, friend of mine in Windham, NH just lost his job -- yes,
the poor fool worked for DIGITAL. *sigh* (Growl, hiss, cringe,
bite, scrap, scream).  Well, he's now...to say the least....
disconnected, and would like to be re-connected to the interent
/* (that evil thing we all love so much). */
Hey, neat, F1 C comments a line.  I like. ;)  Learn something new
every day. ;)

Basically, he (well, we!) needs:
1) local call!!  (but nearby long-dist would be cool i guess)
2) electronic mail to the internet
3) shell access (IF possible)
4) telnet access (BIG plus, IF possible)

If there's anybody out there that can meet these needs (or even just
some of them, especially just the email!), please EMAIL *ME*!!!!

Like i said, he's in Windham, NH (ac-603) and he ain't poor, so even
megabucks pubnix type deals would be great. %^)

Thanks!
John LeMon
lemon@unssun.scs.unr.edu
#include <disclaimer.drunkenness.h>  Gimme a break..just finished finals! :)

      John A. LeMon           "Good my Lord, put your discourse in some frame  
     U. Nevada, Reno              and start not so wildly from my affair."     
  lemon@unssun.nevada.edu                       --Shakespeare              
 "My voice will rise and be heard, even if it kills me (or my mbox)!" -- Me.
From: klaus@cscns.com (Klaus Dimmler)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:34:58 GMT
Organization: Community_News_Service
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Patricia Snyder-Rayl (pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us) wrote:


: Would I be permitted to enter an announcement about a special subscription
: discount Pegasus Press is offering on their new magazine CONNECT?   I don't
: wish to step on anyone's toes by leaving a message that is "offensive."
: Please advise.
: 				Patricia Snyder-Rayl

I would like to hear about this new magazine.. Can you send me a sample?
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: grant@bluemoon.use.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:06:40 GMT

moose@swamp.alt.ns.ca (Michael Dinn) writes:

>grant@bluemoon.use.com (Grant DeLorean) writes:
>>  Only if you figure in the cost of the system you did the FTPing from...

>Well, yes, I suppose I should go buy wuarchive so that I have somewhere 
>to FTP all these things from. :-)

 I should have made that more clear, you will need a box on the net to
be able to FTP so that system has to be considered. No need to buy
wuarchive or export or simtel. But how you are reaching them is
important, not everyone has access to an FTP account out there. Some
folks have access at work, most do not. Many who do will have a hard
time explaining why they are taking home many many floppies or several
tapes (or even one 2 gig 8mm tape), may even get fired for it (no matter
what is on the media they will be accused of stealing secrets). This
is a case where to get it for free you will need to already have it,
and free is relative to the cost of the leased line for the InterNet
connection. I make Linux and nn and and smail and elm and B and C news
and more available from my BBS but that would be hours of long distance
time for anyone not local...  There is also the time to set everything
up, which must be considered a cost unless your time is worthless... 

 Note my personal box is a Sparc 2, with a little 486 that has been
running UNIX most of its life ethered in...  I am very much pro-UNIX.
But UNIX is by no means cheap, even if it is cheaper than other solutions
in some situations.
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        Good leaders being scarce, following yourself is allowed.
From: pix@cumquat.apana.org.au (Steven Pickles)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:31:14 +1030
Organization: Beyond Oblivion

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

> Too bad TBBS is still so limited that it can't run the DOS based
> applications that are available for the other bulletin board systems
> like PCB.  Another point that needs to be made, is that TBBS also
> requires TDBS to run these "add on option modules".  So that's
> another $800 for the TDBS, then $150 for this door, and $150 for
> that -- $1100 for 2 doors, not including the original price for TBBS.

Isn't there a File Drop (or something or other thing) that can run DOS 
doors under TBBS? Not that I am a TBBS user/sysop/fan or anything, just 
bit's you hear along the way I guess.
 
Pix.

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Beyond Oblivion, incorporating Gumby's Cumquat Research Lab.
Adelaide, South Australia.  Phone +61-8-287-1938, all speeds to V.32bis.
A member of APANA.  This organization has nothing to do with toothpaste.
From: bziller@ba-stuttgart.de (Bernd Ziller)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: msdos -> GTERM???.*  DDTERM??.*
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:44:42 GMT
Organization: Berufsakademie Stuttgart FB Technische Informatik
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grey.t-informatik.ba-stuttgart.de

 I'm searching for GTERM???.*
   It gives you EGA-Graphics and SoundBlaster support for some
  bbs-online-games...

    NOT  gwterm  for global war !!!


 Also i'm looking for ddterm. Playing Galactic Warzone [DDTERM OFF] is diplayed
 --> so : is there a ddterm with graphical support for galactic warzone...


Thanx,
       Bernd Ziller

PS: Sorry for my rotten english

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: WWIV 4.x beta is Multi-Line
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:51:03 GMT

In article <dsembr01.724451980@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> dsembr01@rigel.spd.louisville.edu (Darren S. Embry) writes:
)
)I've heard a *rumor* that Wayne was quitting MS-DOS development altogether and
)writing the next version of WWIV for UNIX!  But hey that's just a rumor...

There will be several minor versions, including 4.22 in January, 4.23-.25
will add Fidonet, multi-language support, and multi-lines... eventually he'll
probably move to Unix(tm) for 5.0.  No idea when that will be, though...


-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
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From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: HELP NEEDED FOR MAGAZINE
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:08:37 GMT
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



 	Hi- I'm from MacGames Digest, a new premier magazine for 
gaming on the Apple Macintosh platform. What I'm looking for is anyone
who knows or IS a software (game) author or publisher or works for one. 
 If you have any leads, contacts, or information on gaming publishers and
software writers, PLEASE, we'd really like any information you have.

 Many thanks for your help.

-- 
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MacGames Digest		    |  Gaming, Please contact us at the previous 
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From: doug@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Doug Luce)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re:
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:27:04 GMT
Organization: Telerama, public-access TCP/IP 412/481-5302
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Adam Gaffin (adamg@eff.org) wrote:
>Now if only there were a driver to translate that into English :-)

It was an advertisement for diskettes containing the new Russian laws.

Doug
From: David.White@launchpad.unc.edu (David White)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Where can I get PowerBBS for Windows?
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:55:48 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


Hi, All.  Can anyone tell me a site where I can FTP the latest version of
PowerBBS for Windows (is it 1.91 or something like that?)  Several sites,
according to archie, have PBBS18.ZIP, but I can't find a later version
anywhere.  If anyone could point me in the right direction or upload it
somewhere (or mail it to me,) I'd be most grateful.  Thanks, All.

=-=-= David =-=-=
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: dsembr01@rigel.spd.louisville.edu (Darren S. Embry)
Subject: Re: WWIV 4.x beta is Multi-Line
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:39:40 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In <6a5oVB1w165w@spud.kludge.com> keever@spud.kludge.com (Jim Keever) writes:

>Is it tru that WWIV is going multi-node? I am interested in whether this 
>is true or not. If you have any information on WWIV going multi-line, 
>please inform me. From what Ive heard there are some sysops beta testing 
>it right now. I could be wrong though, inform me if you have any info on 
>WWIV going multi-line/node

I've heard a *rumor* that Wayne was quitting MS-DOS development altogether and
writing the next version of WWIV for UNIX!  But hey that's just a rumor...
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: larry@news.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Info Wanted! x.25 software
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:12:19 GMT

cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:

>one to hook their serial cables into it, with the other end connecting
>to the PAD.  Unfortunately, I never went beyond that stage, so I can't
>really comment on it any more, but it sounds somewhat like your second
>suggestion.

It would be easy to do -- go from a 16 port terminal server via RS232
into a 16 port digiboard running TBBS.  When the port out the server
goes active, do does the CD on the serial line initiating the login sequence
from within TBBS -- assuming TBBS will work with dumb modems.

I was a TBBS sysop -- starting with the CP/M release where we had to write
our own front end in assembly language.  At the time I had front ends written
for the HeathKit H-89/Z-89/H-8 machines as well as the CompuPro S100 machines.

I further upgraded to 2.1 for DOS, and upgraded another time before selling
TBBS.

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: keever@spud.kludge.com (Jim Keever)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: WWIV 4.x beta is Multi-Line
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 16:53:04 PST
Organization: TTLF - Free News & Mail System, San Francisco, CA

Is it tru that WWIV is going multi-node? I am interested in whether this 
is true or not. If you have any information on WWIV going multi-line, 
please inform me. From what Ive heard there are some sysops beta testing 
it right now. I could be wrong though, inform me if you have any info on 
WWIV going multi-line/node

keever@spud.Kludge.COM (Jim Keever)
Tater Tot Liberation Front BBS -  Free News & Mail!
San Francisco, CA  +1.415.255.8340