From: ucsatsd@ucl.ac.uk (-8  Big Bad Bob (B3)  8-)
Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body,alt.oobe
Subject: Re: MORE EXPERIENCE
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:26:36 GMT
Organization: The HRC

In article <1992Sep28.194359.14124@m.cs.uiuc.edu> mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep20.204054.1@husky1.stmarys.ca>, gen5006@husky1.stmarys.ca (Bill McKinnon) writes in aprt:
>|> First, and most obvious to most who've done obe's, stay away from sources of
>|> electricity.  They do nasty things to you.  
>Huh?  Just what sort of nasty things do you claim might happen?
>How can electricity have any effect at all on you when you are OBE'ing?

The concept of electricity affecting an OOBEr seems counter-intuitive, I agree,
but is, as far as I can  tell, a lot simpler than might be supposed. Electrical
energy in domestic supplies operates on a very specific band of the electro-
magnetic spectrum; as far as I can remember it's 50Hz here in the UK. The 
'body' that is 'used' during OOBE appears to be related to the Kirlian Aura,
which itself is electromagnetic. This means that OOBEs take place in an
electromagnetic shell, and other sources of electromagnetic 'substance' can
thus affect the body one is in. However, I have never noticed any 'nasty 
effects' in OOBE from electrical sources. In fact, it is quite easy to change
the vibrational rate of the OOBE 'body' by application of will during an
OOBE, and I have conducted experiments on OOBErs in getting them to match
their vibrational rate to that of domestic electricity, and attempt to enter
electric fields. The results have sounded fairly far-fetched, I admit, but
for what it is worth, an example follows:
  
I had, at the time ('87), a computer in my bedroom, with a MoDem, and connected
in to the Bulletin Board that I generally called. The subject entered an OOBE
state, (ability to do so having been previously tested with difficult 'scrying'
assignments), and at my request, attempted to slow (implies vibration rates 
faster than 50Hz) his body to match electrical signals. After around a minute,
he reported that he was starting to make out a network of glowing lines in the
room, and that the computer and television also seemed to glow. When asked to
clarify "glow", he specified an internal sparkling movement. I asked him to
then attempt to move into one of the lines, with he seemed to do with ease,
and described himself as being in a sparkling cylindrical river. I had him
follow this path into the computer, and he then described a huge, 3-dimensional
network structure of lines of generally  yellow/white colour, but with one
large, blue-dotted one leading out. Guessing that this may be a representation
of the modem-link, I asked him to follow it as best he could. He reported, as 
he did so, that it was very tricky, as there were many identical lines, and
many junctions. He quickly lost sight of his point of origin (but at no point
felt there would be any trouble getting back to his body). After some minutes
he described arriving at another big yellow/white network, but with many, many
of the blue dotted lines, and some blue solid. At this point he started getting
a little disorientated, due to the complexity of his surroundings, and 
I told him to finish the experiment, and drop out of OOBE, which he did. He
appeared to feel no effects from having attempted this, except perhaps the
need for a bar of chocolate! 

Based on this, I would suggest that maybe someone out there who can OOBE with
a degree of reliability (unlike myself 8-[ ) would like to have a go at a 
similar feat? It would be nice to see someone else's report...

Tim.

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