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From: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: GUIDE DOG BLUES
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:16:40 GMT
Reply-To: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2610/12 - Post Road Inn, Greensburg PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23835

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 CH> Hi,

 CH> I think your story would deserve some militancy.  I was refused service
 CH> in a Chinese restaurant (not all that uncommon), and I called to explain
 CH> that they must let me in.  They seem to understand now, but I haven't
 CH> been back to make sure.  I don't much want to go alone.

 CH> Then on my way to Charlotte, we stayed in a hotel in Illinois.  Though
 CH> they did not refuse me occupancy, when they discovered the dog, they
 CH> required me to move to a room which had old carpet and spread in case
 CH> the dog did any damage.  They should probably concern themselves with
 CH> such matters more when certain patrons come in after they've been out
 CH> doing some serious partying.

You know, I'm sympathetic on this and even feel an inclination to
make the motels pay for this one.  On the other hand, we are living
in the 90's--the self-righteous decade when people can complain
about not having a no-smoking room.  Who knows, maybe that's what
they're concerned about.  Would make an interesting civil
action--X's right to use a guidedog against Y's "rights" to have
his allergies taken into account.  Wonder what would happen.

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From: Steve.Richards@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Richards)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Accent Dictionary.
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:05:41 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Richards@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:277/101 - House Of Pancakes, Morgantown WV
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23749

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message 07-30-92 (23:45) From: DAVID TANNER To: STEVE RICHARDS
DT>        I have had a little of time to work with the dictionary compiling th
DT>Normal file and sending it to my Accent SA.  Now that I read this message I
DT>see why things didn't work just right.  Is there any way to get a half way
DT>good size dictionary into the Accent S A?
DT>        D. T.

Unfortunately, no.  About 500 listings, depending on the length of the
words, is about what you can squeeze in.  Oops, I used "about" twice, I
see.  Well, it's been a long day.  The problem is that the Accent PC and
the SA, which is a PC in a stand-alone box, use an EPROM for the
dictionary memory, and the only way to get more space is to replace the
EPROM.  The 1200 and Mini allocate a block of RAM for it, and though one
loses a bit of computer memory they can hold larger dictionaries.  I'd
guess they could accommodate 2500 to 3000 listings when set to 32K.  I
once asked Wallace, Accent's creator, if he couldn't expand the PC and
SA's dictionaries by providing an EPROM with greater capacity.  He said
he could but didn't think he would.  According to him few people showed
an interest in the dictionary.  My estimate was a bit high, on
reflection.  Maybe 2400, but that's still a lot better than 500.  The
best I can suggest is this:  If you've got the stamina or interest, you
can make a couple different dictionaries for different applications and
download them as needed, preferably using a batch file to keep from
typing in the command every time.  Accent's message, "Custom dictionary
download completed" can be disabled, getting rid of that annoyance.
Some screen readers can perform this disabling function, but if yours
doesn't the "D" option from Accset's options menu will do so.  The
little auto-load program I've included with Accset can tailor Accent
from within a batch file, so if you create an Accset config file with,
say, the dictionary download message disabled you can put a command to
call the auto-load program in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file and forget it.
Alas, that doesn't solve the problem of a small dictionary size, but
it's a little something.  Remember, though, that correcting a verb will
often correct its derivatives, so that does help conserve space.  Then
again, sometimes fixing a verb like wag will mess up a word like wager
or waging, which is a pain!  There are listings in NORMAL.ASC for that
very reason.  Well, if I can be of assistance in any way just give a
holler.
Steve R.

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From: Jeff.Belina@p91.f20.n3603.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Belina)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Mutating Keyboard
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:09:39 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff.Belina@p91.f20.n3603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/20.91 - Mercury Opus NEC360, St Petersburg FL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23777

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

01 Aug 92 14:19, Walter Siren wrote to Tandy Way:

 WS> I wonder if that programable keyboard will work with jaws?  The reason
 WS> that I am wondering is once I heard of a program which would allow you to
 WS> swap the control key and the capslock key on these 101 keyboards, and I
 WS> was told if I got it, that jaws might not work if I used it.

I believe the way it would work is if the scan codes are the same
as they would be on a normal keyboard they should work just fine.
The problem with programs that change the way the keyboard works is
that they are intecepting keystrokes, and that is what JAWS is
doing, that's where the problem comes in.

Bfn,
Jeff Belina
Technical Support
Henter-Joyce, Inc.

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From: Eugene.Jakaitis@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Eugene Jakaitis)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: CH0NDROID CHORDOMA
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:27:49 GMT
Reply-To: Eugene.Jakaitis@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/201 - US Telematics, Yardley PA
X-Fidonet: Rare Disorder Conference

Index Number: 23889

[This is from the Rare Disorders Conference]

Does anyone know of any case histories of chondrochordoma or myxoid
chondrosarcoma? Particularly cases treated with high energy proton radiation.
Any info will be appreciated.    GENE

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From: Patrick.Gormley@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Patrick Gormley)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: You might not know
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:09:48 GMT
Reply-To: Patrick.Gormley@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/432 - The Idea Link, Wheaton MD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23778

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

One thing you might like to know is that Blazie has a $600 library
of support programs for the braille'n speak.  Amoung them is a
scientiffic calculator and a c compiler so you can tailor the bns
to your needs.

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From: Janet.Lombard@p0.f35.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Janet Lombard)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Logoff comment from Janet Lombard
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:11:38 GMT
Reply-To: Janet.Lombard@p0.f35.n343.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/35.0 - HDS Univ Of Washing, Seattle WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23789

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

To people in visual disabilities section: I have a friend in the
former Soviet Union (Estonia) who has retinitis pigmentosa, a
condition that causes blindness eventually.  Does anyone have any
ideas on places where she can get information on this and possibly,
support groups? Any help I can give her would be appreciated, I'm
sure.  Thanks for your help.

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From: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jamal Mazrui)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: "Blind Loyalty"
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:02:14 GMT
Reply-To: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23727

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Darryl!  I wish you would have introduced youself if you saw me in
Phoenix!  I'd like to meet you.  Oh well, hopefully another time.

I agree that one should not make a point of publicizing dissent since
this may emphasize it unnecessarily.  However, the issue of NFB's
democracy or lack thereof is being discussed.  It is relevant for those
who steadfastly maintain that it is democratic despite articles,
personal stories, and other evidence to the contrary--to provide some
eviddense in their defense.  I am not saying that someone should
personally or politically attack another member of the NFB, just give a
couple of significant examples of differences of opinion between that
person and the leadership view, such as is prompted in the Braille
Monitor.  After all, this publications's motto is that "The National
Federation of the Blind is not an organization speaking for the blind;
it is the blind speaking for themselves."  All right then, would a
member please speak for him or herself?  Surely, all members "speaking
for themselves" is not the same as "an organization speaking for the
blind," otherwise their there would no point in the statement being
made in the first place!

Wishing to remain active in state and national issues affecting blind
people and believing in the importance of collective action, I did
after of reflection join the American Council of the Blind.  As I've
said in another message here, I find the major strength of NFB to be
its philosophy of blindness and the major strength of ACB to be its
democracy.  I wish there were a single organization that combined the
two strengths.  I don't think NFB will be able to become more
democratic as long as Jernigan is around because he has such a
need/desire for control.  I do believe it is possible for ACB to become
stronger philsophically and part of what convinced me to join is that I
have seen this trend in recent year.  For example, it has taken stands
supporting at least minimum wage for blind sheltered shop workers and
the right of blind persons to be travel instructors.  Unfortunately, I
think that some of the less progressive positions of ACB in the past
were mainly over-reactions to NFB.  This is changing, however and I i
would like to contribute to such changes that evaluate issues on the
meritsand from the perspective of the consumer interests and long-term
interests of blind people.  NFB, has, from my overservation, actually
been regressing in this orientation.

Regards,

Jamal

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From: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Stew Bowden)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Braille translators
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:13:13 GMT
Reply-To: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23800

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Susan: perhaps I should not join in this discussion regarding
braille translators, but having just retired as a school
administrator, in a school for the blind, I used the Duxbury
braille translator for several years. Found it to be excellent. I
am not familiar with Megadots, but I cannot help but question the
efficiency of a braille translator which includes a word processor.
Seems to me there would have to be come compromises somewhere, and
usually, it is the translation that suffers. Hotdots is another
translation program by Peter Durran, but since I have not used that
program, I am not in a position to say just how good it is. Hope
you find something you like, but I would give Duxbury a very close
look. It is also speech friendly if that is a concern. Stew

... If two wrongs don't make a right, try three.
=== Via Silver Xpress V3.00

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From: Betty.Mcbroom@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org (Betty Mcbroom)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: SHHH report-captions
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:35:57 GMT
Reply-To: Betty.Mcbroom@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3615/27 - TN Deafness I N BBS, Knoxville TN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23927

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Karen-

        Thanks for all the time you put into typing the report.  Very
        interesting reading.  Made me wish I had gone too <g>

KK> evaluate two
KK>sets of captions on two different TVs to indicate which we liked
KK>better.  They used clips from popular TV shows like Murphy Brown
KK>     --the captions prefaced with the name of the speaker.
KK>     --Varying the colors of the caption letters
KK>     --Varying the caption typefonts

        Interesting survey you participated in!  Did they ask about the
        speed of the captions?

        When we visited Ireland (a group of 34 deaf) -- we found
        there was a Deaf Club in Dublin and persuaded our bus driver to
        take us there one evening.  Bus driver (British) and tour guide
        (Irish) were reluctant because it was in a "bad" part of town,
        but they agreed because they saw how important it was for us.
        They told us they'd stay ten minutes then leave  ---- they felt
        the Irish deaf wouldn't accept us and that we wouldn't like the
        neighborhood.

        We walked into this Club and were welcomed with Open Arms once
        the Irish realized we were Deaf too.  Finally we told our bus
        driver and tour guide 10 minutes wasn't enough, for them to come
        back in three hours (when the place closed!).

        That was one of the most enjoyable evenings -- totally
        unplanned.  Our fingerspelling was different, and some signs
        were different too -- so we struggled at first with the
        communication using lipreading <g> and the topic of
        conversation at first was "how do you sign father?" "how do you
        sign numbers like 1 2 3?"

        There was a t.v. running in the room with closed captions
        (Finally got to the topic) ---  captions were colored depending
        on who was speaking  (yellow captions for one character,  blue
        for another,  white for the narrator).
                                              b
 ~ OLX 2.1 TD ~ Clues captioned for the mystery impaired

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From: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Figueiredo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Nls And Nfb
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:06:38 GMT
Reply-To: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3800/6 - CompuChurch (tm) IH, Baton Rouge LA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23755

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

BK>For my part, they could add at least a whole bunch of books on
BK>metaphysics and alternative lifestyles and thinking processes.

Write to the selection committee. Have you used RFB's collection? I
would think that there would be more stuff there.

At the NFB convention there was a guy from the Right to Know Press.
(Perhaps I have the incorrect name.) The group was advertising
alternative materials. Have you ever heard of this group?

Warren

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From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:02:32 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23729

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 GP>    I'll ask you a third time.  Please state the specific
 GP>    deficiencies you think exist in IBM's Screen Reader.  What
 GP>  do other packages provide that Screen Reader doesn'

Greg,
    I don't particularly want to get involved in this discussion, but..

    I think David's saying that Screen Reader is dependant upon a
knowledge of PAL to make it work well is fairly specific.  Likewise,
your claim that it doesn't is just as specific, no more and mo less.

     Now then, 99% of us out here, who have never seen Screen Reader, are
being left in the position of having to decide which of you is telling
us the truth, assuming that both of you have the same opinion as to what
is user friendly in the way of speech and what is not!

     Wouldn't it be nice if we could all get our hands on a demo of
Screen Reader so we wouldn't have to leave this debate up to just you
two?
                                        Willie

... I always listen!

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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Air Travel Booklet
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:32:46 GMT

Index Number: 23961

The booklet "New Horizons for the Air Traveler with a Disability"
is available from the US Department of Transportation.  This
booklet details how recent legislation (the Air Carrier Access Act
of 1986 and the Americans with Disabilities Act) affects air
travel.

Copies are available from the Office of the Secretary, US
Department of Transportation, 400 7th Street, S.W., Washington, DC
20590.  Telephone 202/366-4220 or FAX 202/366-7618.  No charge.

Write or call for it.  Everyone with a disability should have this
booklet.  You don't want to be caught not knowing your rights and
responsibilities if you have to fly on short notice.

This is a very informative booklet.  People in wheelchairs will
also like the following information on cabin accessability, from my
husband's first-hand experience.  A manual wheelchair has priority
over all other carryon luggage for the onboard closet, if you
preboard.  You may want to select a flight based on what kind of
airplane it is.

If you have a regular-sized folding manual wheelchair, it will fit
in the following aircraft closets by removing the footrests: United
757 and Delta L-1011.  If it has a lowish back (my husband's is
about two inches shorter than the standard and clears with some
extra clearance) it will fit in the first class cabinet of the
United DC-10.  If you can remove the wheels, the chair will fit in
the closet of the United 737, both -200 and -300 models.  You will
also be able to get the chair frame, wheels, and footrests in the
overhead bins on Southwest.

My husband, who travels extensively on business, has flown 16
flight legs since 1 June and was able to keep his chair onboard all
16 times.  He did have a little trouble with the cabin crews on 3
of the legs but they went along after he asked to try, agreeing to
check it if it didn't fit.

You might ask "why not just check it?"  There are two reasons.  The
first is that the chair can get damaged in the hold.  Broken
spokes, jammed axles, damaged upholstery--these have happened to
Ken's chair.  Not on every flight, of course, but it's bad to get
to your destination and find a chair that won't get you around.
The other reason is the possible loss of a part.  The last time we
flew to Buenos Aires, on our way to Santiego, they brought the
checked chair up to the gate and one of the footrests was missing!
They found it, but we got pretty anxious before the baggage handler
showed up with it.  Another advantage is that you will know that
your chair is with you, not sitting on the ramp.  (We once flew
back from London on TWA and the wheelchair followed, about 3 hours
later, on British Airways.  Fortunately, we had a long layover so
we didn't miss a flight waiting.)

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From: Patrick.Gormley@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Patrick Gormley)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Flipper may lead the way
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:10:31 GMT
Reply-To: Patrick.Gormley@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/432 - The Idea Link, Wheaton MD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23781

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Keith I've not seen the flipper demo but  my feeling is that my
screen reader has to perform double duty to be used at home, at
work, or on other computers that I may need to access.  Anything
that hinders this flexibility for me as far as I'm concerned
negates the worth of the product in my eyes.  I'm in the process of
changing screen readers from VOS and when I get my grant money, I
plan on purchasing either asap or vocal-eyes.  I'm leaning towards
vocal-eyes since I want to purchase an audaptersince I think my
need for portability will increase in the future.

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From: Patrick.Gormley@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Patrick Gormley)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Nfb books
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:10:23 GMT
Reply-To: Patrick.Gormley@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/432 - The Idea Link, Wheaton MD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23780

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Both those books are $10 each and there is a literature order form
available from the matterials center at 1800 Johnson Street
Baltimore, Md. 21230.  Also, there is an aids and appliances order
form in braille and print. 73- KK3F

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From: Cindy.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Cindy Hallenbeck)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille And Spelling
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:02:59 GMT
Reply-To: Cindy.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23732

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DM>> I remember in second grade when my father asked me to
 DM>> spell the word "good", and I blurted out "g d"!  It
 DM>> came as a horrible shock to them and me too.  I then
 DM>> realized the dangers of grade 2 braille.
I haven't followed this discussion much until Chuck mentioned the
discussion about the spelling of "good" "gd."  When I was a kid and,
yes, this was after the invention of braille (grins!) We had a spelling
book that had the grade 2 sign along with the full spelling.  I was
always a good speller, and I think that people who use it can glance at
a word and easily determine from the contractions whether it is spelled
correctly, for braille rules take sylabification, etc. into
consideration.  However, I suspect when a child is learning to spell, it
is good to use the full spelling of the word next to the contracted
spelling.  No one could ever learn to spell "knowledge" by just seeing
the "k", and it wouldn't take long for most  kids to figure out that
there must be more to it.  I don't know how spelling is taugh to
children these days.

Cindy

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From: Drew.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Dunn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Myoelectric Arm Exchange
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:58:29 GMT
Reply-To: Drew.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/337 - Yak Attack BBS, La Mesa CA
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23700

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

-> Does anyone know of a service where a person can make provision to do
-> myoelectric arm after ther death so the exprensive compoents can be u
-> someone withouth health insurance coverage ?

If you have a local university with a teaching hospital, you might check
with them to see if you could bequeath it to somebody through them.

drew

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