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From: fielding@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (David L. Fielding)
Subject: XVIEW 3: Double Click?
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:45:19 GMT

Two questions: How do I detect a double click on a panel list
item? The xview manual does not discuss this at all. Likely
against the Openlook specs? but I'd still like to do it.

Second, how well do XView applications run in the Motif
environment? Are there any XView/Motif experts out there who
would be willing to discuss with me whether to develop both
a Motif and XView version our Digital Library Client. The XView
version is currently under development.

There are people here at Cornell telling us we should be using Motif...
personally I think it looks more difficult to work with Motif...
any comparisons of the two would be gladly welcome. Any dirt
about Motif is also welcome...


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Library Technology Department
502 Olin Library		     Phone:(607)273-8664(H) or
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 Phone:(607)255-2783(W) Fax:(607)255-9346
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: safaei@trl.oz.au (Ramin Safaei)
Subject: Scroll bar in the right of xterm window
Reply-To: safaei@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:27:35 GMT

Greetings,
	I am a regular user of xterm. As a default xterm places its scroll bar in the left hand side of the window. My rather simple question is : Is there an easy way of placing the scroll bar in the right hand side of the window?

Any help will be greatly apprecitated.



Regards,

Ramin

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From: biggers@wolves.uucp (Mark Biggers)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: how to get OLIT 4.x libs for Dell UNIX SysVR4?
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:38:51 GMT
Organization: Wolves Den UNIX site
X-Md4-Signature: 153e6c4bd646c92b6754ac0e8996cd40

Hello,

As they say, the subject line (almost) says it all.  My friend in NYC
(with Sygma) is running Dell UNIX SysVR4, the "latest release", and
this new version drops all support for OLIT development.  What he needs
is the equivalent (or newer) version of OLIT libs and header files for
OLIT 4.x (OLIT 3.x on SunOS Openwindows 3), without having to go to AT&T
and buy the OLIT source code, build it, et cetera.

If you know any third-party vendor that supplies OLIT 4.x development
packages for SysVR4 for Intel 386/486, please email me or call him
(Laurent Imbaud) at Saiph Corp, LIC NY 718-361-6590.  Surely he's not
the only one requiring OLIT portability between SunOS and Intel boxes?

thanks much!
--mark


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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: OW 3.0 binder problems
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:39:37 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

While using the OW 3.0 binder for the first time today, I ran into a couple
of problems.  The first one has to do with the documentation regarding the
changing of the pattern name in the File Types property.  I finally discovered
that the return key must be pressed to enter/change the name.  Everything
else works by entering a value and pressing apply.  Not in this stupid case.
The manual (page 33 of the Deskset Reference Guide) doesn't say which way to
go.  It just says to enter a new name.  Dumb.

The worse one involves the Icon property page.  To duplicate this problem,
select an entry from the Binder Entries. You'll see that the information in
the Icon property is correct.  Change to the File Types property display.
Everything should be correct there as well.  Now, select a different entry
from the Binder Entries display.  Go back to the Icon property display.  Oops,
now all the entries on this page reflect the previous binder entry.  But wait,
the actual icon displayed and its color are correct.  Everything else is
wrong.  The only cure that I know of is to quit the binder and restart it.

Is there a new version of the binder program available somewhere?
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From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: disabling auto placement of windows
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:35:44 GMT

> > As far as I know, interactive geometry and placement are not specified as
> > user interface options in open look and so the window managers do not 
> > supply those features.
> 
> Having recently switched from adhering to the Motif style to the
> OpenLook style, I have to say this feature is sorely missed.
> Especially with regard to small windows (marching down the screen)...
> 
> Does anyone know to whom to direct a request for an OpenLook
> enhancement?

	Use olvwm.  Here's part of the man page.

	ResizeMoveGeometry (X geometry string or the word center)
		This resource only has an  effect  if  ShowMoveGeometry
		and/or  ShowResizeGeometry is set to True.  This string
		specifies the location of the geometry box when  it  is
		displayed;  it  should be given as an X geometry string
		(wxh+x+y) although the width and height are ignored  if
		specified.   If you want the box to be centered regard-
		less of your monitor resolution, use the string  center
		instead of a geometry string.  Default value: +0+0

	Frank G.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 12:06:34 CDT
From: bgb@issi.com
Subject: Re: To C or not to C...

At ISSI we have developed our own C++ wrappers around XView and use it in our object oriented implementations.  However, what we ultimately want is a truly object oriented toolkit.  We want something that supports dynamic subclassing not static subclassing.  Douglas Young's MotifApp component and all wrapper libraries exhibit static subclassing.  We also want to make use of polymorphism.  A truly object oriented toolkit will also promote the reusability of components.

Brian Benton
ISSI
Austin, Tx.
From: usdpd@emory.edu (Dave Dykes)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: An XView programming question
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:11:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.1079
Organization: Emory University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Greetings-
	I am working on an inteface in devguide/xview that will use many windows
that will have a great deal in common.  That is, they will all share the first
few buttons and text fields etc.  but they will all differ in what buttons and
gizmos are at the bottom of the window.  I guess my question is what is the most
elegant way to implement these?  It would seem ideal to create a class with
the common objects, so that any changes I make in the superclass are inherited.
But I have no idea how I would do this if it is even possible.  Any help on
this would be greatly appreciated.
			-Thanks in Advance
			-Dave
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.x
From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping)
Subject: XVTDL Version 4.0 Released
Organization: Hope College Dept of CS
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:58:39 GMT

This is to announce the release of XVTDL version 4.0.  XVTDL is an XView
ToDo List manager.  It is now available for anonymous FTP from 
export.lcs.mit.edu under /contrib/xvtdl-4.0.tar.Z.  The README file is
stored at the same site as /contrib/xvtdl-4.0-README.

XVTDL is a multi-featured todo list manager, built with the XView toolkit
from Sun Microsystems.  It requires XView 2.0 or greater, and can run
with the public domain version of the XView toolkit (found on export).
While it was built and tested on a Sun SPARCstation under OpenWindows, I
have heard it running under DEC Windows, HP-UX, and the SGI environment.

Changes and additions from version 3.1 include:

  * MANY bugfixes -- making this version very robust.  Version 4.0 was
    actually beta tested prior to release (see README for beta testers).
  * The OpenLook look and feel has been adhered to more strictly (e.g.,
    in selecting list items).
  * A deadline mechanism has been added that can perform several
    functions when deadlines for items have been passed (including
    changing item priority and sending mail messages).
  * Recurring items can now be specified in a much more flexible manner.
  * Items can now be sorted in both ascending and decending priority
    order.
  * Multi page lists actually print correctly now.
  * Logging of list items is now more informative.

And the list goes on...  See the CHANGES file in the distribution for a
complete list of changes from version 3.1.

In addition, a command line version of XVTDL -- called "tdl" -- is now
available that lists, adds entries, and prints todo lists from the 
command line.  Todo list management can now be done from "dumb" terminals
and from "cron".

XVTDL differs from every todo list program I have used in that (1) it
actively propagates list items, (2) it maintains multiple lists, (3) it
features recurring items, (4) it couples deadline management with list
items, and (5) it allows activity logs to be kept.  No program I have
used does all of these things and most do none of these.

The XVTDL package was written by Mike Jipping (jipping@cs.hope.edu).  
Send praise, comments, bugs, and general chit-chat to me at 
jipping@cs.hope.edu. I'll at least read your note!

      Mike Jipping
      Hope College Department of Computer Science
      jipping@cs.hope.edu  (BITNET: JIPPING@HOPE)

      "Who is that big boy?"
                      -- my 2-year-old daughter upon visiting the 
                         Lincoln Memorial

Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:4032 comp.lang.lisp:2590
From: mdcutts@ukpr.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: LispView ?'s for Open-look
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:27:14 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Three quick questions:
1)  How does one do a refresh/repaint of a panel from LispView on the Sun?   
I've been doing graphics on a panel, when another window goes on top and then  
is moved again, the graphics aren't refreshed.  Am I approaching this the wrong  
way?  Also, is there an easy way to erase a panel (other than destroying it and  
putting a new one in its place, or overwriting with a filled rectangle)?
2)  Is there a way to get multi-line text-fields (again from LispView)?  The  
DevGuide 3.0 seems to have allowances for this, but when I convert it to code  
with glv it not only makes the field a single line but makes it a numeric  
field.
3)  Where can I find source for the MOUSE-EVENT-SPEC-P code?  I'm trying to  
read double clicks on the mouse.  I can do just great by putting (:left :down)  
in the relevant spot, but when I try (:left :click2) it fails.  The manuals  
don't shed copious enlightenment for me.
Thanks,
Matt Cutts -- uk02914@ukpr.uky.edu or mdcutts@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3946 comp.sys.sun.misc:4405
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SparcStation Display Problem
Date: 25 Sep 92 20:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Sep24.200828.2117@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
<
<
<Hello!
<
<I have a Sun SPARC station IPC with a color monitor.  The monitor is
<a model GDM 1662B. My problem is this:
<
<I CAN'T scroll correctly worth a darn from the OS. (I am
<running SunOS 4.1.1)  Whenever I 'more' a text file, for example,it
<doesn't do one full screen page at a time.  It seems to
<list an arbitrary number of lines to the screen and will
<clear itself at the bottom and continue on a clear screen if it wants to
<do so.  The more prompt then stops anywhere on the screen - not just
<at the bottom like it should. I have similar problems with 'ls',
<'ps', et al.
<
<If ANYONE out there has run into this problem and/or knows
<how to solve it, PLEASE let me know (ryan@einstein.lar.fsu.edu)
<
<below is the entry from /etc/termcap for type sun which it uses:
<
<Mu|sun|Sun Microsystems Workstation console:\
<        :am:bs:km:mi:ms:pt:li#34:co#80:cl=^L:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:\
<        :ce=\E[K:cd=\E[J:\
<        :so=\E[7m:se=\E[m:us=\E[4m:ue=\E[m:rs=\E[s:\
<        :md=\E[1m:mr=\E[7m:me=\E[m:\
<        :al=\E[L:dl=\E[M:im=:ei=:ic=\E[@:dc=\E[P:\
<        :AL=\E[%dL:DL=\E[%dM:IC=\E[%d@:DC=\E[%dP:\
<        :up=\E[A:nd=\E[C:ku=\E[A:kd=\E[B:kr=\E[C:kl=\E[D:\
<        :k1=\E[224z:k2=\E[225z:k3=\E[226z:k4=\E[227z:k5=\E[228z:\
<        :k6=\E[229z:k7=\E[230z:k8=\E[231z:k9=\E[232z:
<
<I don't know if the problem is here or elsewhere.  I thought this
<entry checked out okay.

Shouldn't you be using sun-cmd instead?
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From: exukarl@exu.ericsson.se (Karl Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Keyboard mapping?
Keywords: keyboard, key, keys, mapping
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:10:07 GMT
Reply-To: exukarl@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

openwindowV2/V3 question:

I am trying to re-map the pause, prsc, scroll lock, and num lock keys to
up cursor, down cursor, left cursor, and right cursor respectively.

I have accomplised this for a particular application.  The problem is,
only the prsc key will repeat (multiple events) when held down.  I figure 
that it isn't logical to have pause, scroll lock, and num lock to repeat.

To get around this, I want to re-map the non repeating keys to functions keys
F8, F9, and F10, so that when I press Pause, Screen Lock, or Num Lock keys,
the event will repeat.  I have thought about using xmodmap but I dont wont the 
key mapping to affect any other applications that may be running.

Any ideas???

Regards,

exukarl@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 14:22:15 -0700
From: tekbspa!mike@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Free Table & Graph Widgets 

Hello,

I'm interested in using your widgets.


			--Mike Carl
			--mike@tss.com
			--415 617 2417
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: cmdtool: Need my scrollbar back!
Keywords: scrollbar curses
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:05:31 GMT

groves@noao.edu (Lee Groves ) writes:


>Greetings.

>I have a program which uses the sysV curses routines.  As soon as
>I execute an initscr(), the scrollbar for the window disappears,
>and this is what I would expect.  The problem is that it doesn't
>come back when I do an endwin().  Is there any way to get the
>scroll bar back from a call within my program?  The man
>pages say that exiting the program or executing a sleep() should
>cause the scrollbar to return, but this is not the case.  They
>are gone until I kill the window...

>If there is no way to re-activate the scrollbar, is there a tool
>that *will* let me have the scrollbar back.  I don't expect the
>scrollbar to be active while curses is in effect, but I desperately
>need it at other times as I am printing long lists into the
>window, and they scroll off the top.  

>Any and all help is appreciated.

>Lee

>-- 
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>Usenet:   {arizona,decvax,ncar}!noao!lgroves or  uunet!noao.edu!lgroves
>Internet: lgroves@noao.edu         SPAN/HEPNET:  draco::lgroves
>Phonenet: 602-325-9357

First of all, I never use cmdtool because it doesn't interact well with
tcsh, and I would rather have tcsh's editing and command recall, plus file
completion.  If you are listing things that scroll off, use more or less to
page the output (or /usr/5bin/pg).  If you want to restore the scroll bar,
click on the right button while the cursor is over the canvas for the
current window, and select the enable scrolling button.  I am dialed in
using a term package now so I can't check this, but it is reasonably close
to the actual steps.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: russ@gusPrime.COM ( Russ new login )
Subject: FAQ for openwin 3.0
Organization: ComputerVision, Bellevue, WA
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:47:04 GMT

This is my first post ever, (big deal!) Anyway could/would some one
plase mail me a copy of the FAQ for this newsgroup.

Many thanks in advance

Russ Wiscombe
Computervision 			CVISBACK!!!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:13:29 pdt
From: mattb@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Matt Baney)
Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?

	> I don't have my code right here in front of me, but my understanding
	> is that the only way to get the selected-string from a PANEL_LIST is
	> to loop through all the PANEL_LIST_STRINGS and do the test 
	
		That's true and not true.
	
		If you read the XVPM, you'll notice that on SELECT in a list,
		your callback immediately gets the string and row index (XView
		3.0 finally added the row index).  You can store this in a data

I have a couple questions that may reveal my ignorance but what is
XVPM?  and what do you mean by "on SELECT in a list your callback
immediately get the string"??  Maybe I'm going about this all the
wrong way, but I have written a notify_proc for the list that gets
called when something is selected in the list.  Is what you're
saying that the call to the Notify_proc now includes the selected
string and the row index??  What about multiple choose lists??

I also saw some mention from the people at SUN about something
called PANEL_LIST_NEXT_SELECTED and PANEL_LIST_LAST_SELECTED or
something like that??  Know anything about this stuff??

Thanks for the info!!

Matt B.
Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:4046 comp.windows.x:17511 comp.sys.sun.misc:4532
From: ajn@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Neil A J)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: xnews and Numlock
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:24:11 GMT
Reply-To: ajn@essex.ac.uk (Neil A J)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

Does anyone out there know a way to make the NumLock key work on a type
4 keyboard under xnews. We are running OpenWindows 2 (gag I know) on a 
Sun IPX with sunos 4.1.1-IPX. 

other possible solutions, I suppose it could be possible to use xmodmap
to repmap the keypad keys to the number. Or since I am only interested in
using xterm, a set of xterm keybinfings might work - unfortunately I lack
the documentation to perform the minor miracles, or any words of wisdom
would be appreciated.

Thanks - Alastair.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: polvino@ssd.kodak.com (Joe Polvino)
Subject: Athena Widgets and ld.so
Originator: polvino@vulcan
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:54:37 GMT


This is more of a SunOS question, sorry.

About 2 weeks ago, I posted a question about failures running certain tools
with openwin 2.  It turned out that my system didn't have the correct
library.

So I grabbed a library called libXaw.a from an ftp site and proceeded to
ranlib and ld it.  I also set my LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to the dir
this stuff is sitting in.  Now, how do I get the tools to recognize that
this newly-created library is where to find what they need?

I don't have admin privs so I would like the library to stay nestled in
my own directory.  Any help appreciated, and sorry if this doesn't fit
the newsgroup perfectly.

-joe polvino

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Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3944 comp.sys.sun.apps:2046
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: OW3 version of dbxtool
Keywords: dbxtool
Date: 25 Sep 92 20:25:54 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Sep24.153746.1435@mcm.com> jgb@mcm.com (Jeff Bennington) writes:
<In article <1992Sep23.143031.17375@bnr.ca> webster@bnr.ca writes:
<>Is there an OpenWindows 3.0 version of dbxtool?
<>If so, where can I get it.
<
<Yes there IS such a version of dbxtool.  It comes bundled
<with SPARCworks, available from Sun.  One of my staff asked
<me the same question recently, so I did some research..
<
<SunExpress is the Sun division you want to call: 800-USE-SUNX.

Hurry up and purchase all of the C compiler/SPARCworks licenses as you can,
since the special, cheap offer of $895, will expire after 9/30/92.  It is
a very cheap price for a C compiler for Solaris 1.0 AND 2.0, as well as
SPARCworks for Solaris 1.0 and 2.0.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: tgimber@mdw.mitre.org (Tedd W Gimber)
Subject: OpenWin Workspace Menu
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:39:26 GMT

Hello,
	I'm trying to figure out how to display the workspace menu
automatically.  I want it to appear on the screen after OpenWindows is
brought up.   I'm trying to create a 'captive' account where a user
logging in may only run what is one the workspace menu.  Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks,
Tedd
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Attribution  line for mailtool
From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:07:37 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: San Francisco State University

Hello:
	Is it possible to get an attribution string in your mail messages
 similar to the type one gets for other mailers such as elm or even rn?

I guess one xcould create a rather simple template, but is there a reserved
name for the sender in the compose window. Thanks much. Apologies
if this is an FAQ.

-- 
Jim Ramberg   San Fran State Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Please send e-mail to ramberg@quark.sfsu.edu
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*** brighten the universe: Hold a Time Lord *** 
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: alice@adimail.uucp (Yan Huang)
Subject: Frame_menu question
Organization: Automata Design, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:47:17 GMT


Hi,

Can anyone please help with the following question?

I am using SPARCstation 1 which is running OpenWindows v2.

When I run the following:

{
  Frame PanelHolder;
  Xv_Window thePanel;
  int x, y, wifth, height;

  PanelHolder = xv_create(NULL, FRAME,
                          FRAME_NO_CONFIRM, TRUE,
                          WIN_X, x,
                          WIN_Y, y,
                          XV_WIDTH, width,
                          XV_HEIGHT, height,
                          WIN_SHOW, TRUE,
                          0);

  thePanel = xv_create(PanelHolder, PANEL,
                       WIN_SHOW, FALSE,
                       0);

  ......
  xv_set(thePanel, WIN_SHOW, FALSE, 0);
  xv_set(thePanel, WIN_SHOW, TRUE, 0);
}

I can get one window with a frame menu containing several menu_items, such as
close, quit, etc..

My question is:   if I want dehighlight one the the menu_item, what should I do?

Any help appreciated.
-- 
Terry Monks        Automata Design Inc    (703) 742-9400