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From: aquesada@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re:  Parity Error
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:19:58 GMT
Reply-To: aquesada@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
Distribution: comp

From: ja2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jinmo Ahn)

>
> I have a wierd problem I cannot figure out. 
> 
>  (...several lines deleted...)

   This looks more like a hardware problem.
   I would check for bad memory chips.
 
Hope this helps.
From Monterrey, MEXICO:
Antonio Quesada-Duarte
 
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.apps:6012 comp.databases:8835 comp.text:1529
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.databases,comp.text
Subject: Re: Wordperfect and bibliographies
From: D.M.Todd@massey.ac.nz (D.M. Todd)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 01:49:12 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: Wordperfect, reference manager, bibliography
Summary: Is there a good reference manager?
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Look at Endnote.  Good interface with WP, especially within Windows,
but will also run resident in DOS.  With Windows can cut and past
reference citations into text.  In either setup, can have Endnote
scan the article and create the bibliography from the embedded
citations, using a selected style.
From: robert@CAM.ORG (Robert Masse)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: WinQVNet Problems (PPP) Help.
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:04:21 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

Hello, 

	I need some help.. I am using the most current PPP driver 1.3
and I use NCSA telnet.  Now I want to use WinQV Net but I have a big
problem.

	The PPP driver goes into low memory and takes up 100k.  After
that I need to load in a PPP Packet Protected Mode Interface to run with
WinQVNET.  Then I load up Win 3.1 in protected or enhanced mode but when
I run the program it crashes windows all together..

	Does anyone have any other problems with WinQVnet?

	please respond by email.

Rob
From: arlie@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Arlie Haig)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:30:14 GMT
Subject: Re: BORLAND C++ FOR SALE
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps


Leo...but...but...you just did use bandwidth for screaming about selling
great computers at great prices...or so it would seem.

E-mail me your list; better hurry tho, I'm outta here by the 15th of Jan.

Thanks,
Arlie 
arlie@hpsad.sad.hp.com
From: wbg@festival.ed.ac.uk (W Geake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: word windows re
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:41:04 GMT

oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:

>don.updyke@stpaul.ncr.com (Don Updyke) writes:
>  
>>The BAD point is that you better have more than a 2 meg 386 sx system or'
>>it will be so slow that you will go back to your old dos word processor.

>Um, I guess I wouldn't run Windows with less than 4 megs of memory on a
>386sx.  

>Actually, that pretty much describes my system, which was really nice when
>I bought it, but which is antiquated now.  

>But still, if you're running Windows on a 2 meg machine, run don't walk to
>your local computer store and shell out the bucks for at least two more
>megs of memory.  

Nay, nay and thrice nay!  I converted from WordPerfect on a 16MHz 386SX,
2MB to W4W 2.0 on a 12MHz 286 1MB.  It was quick enough to improve my
productivity, though things were nicer when my next 2MB came along.  By
all means get lots of RAM, but get W4W (or AmiPro) first - it DOES go on
a 286 IMHO.
From: akcs.andrewp@vpnet.chi.il.us (Andrew Page)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Problems with SMARTDRIVE and PATH
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:55:01 CST

FYI, the Windows Resource Kit manual to Win 3.1 reccomends that you
Smartdrive be 1.5x the amount of RAM on your machine.
--Andrew
From: iks@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Ivan K. Samuelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Linux for DOS
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:03:32 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

I am wanting to acquire LINUX for DOS, but I'm not sure what files I need.
I have a 386-SX/33mhz machine with 2megs of memory. I have heard that Linux
is a Unix operating system for IBM machines and offers excellent multi-
tasking capabilities. I have found the files for LINUX, but what are the
files I need to start the system up and running?

Also, what are some good applications to get with it? Is there X-Windows
for Linux?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

	Ivan Samuelson
From: muzo@waffle.sns.com (muzaffer kal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: uuencode and uudecode
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:51:31 GMT
Organization: Systems'n'Software

Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 12:50:28 PST
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669

is there an MSDOS port of these programs ? does anyone know the format of 
the files ?

thanks
Muzaffer

----
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Systems'n'Software Free Public Access BBS --- (510)623-8652
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.graphics,alt.graphics.pixutils
From: pfk@rz.uni-jena.de (Frank Klemm)
Subject:  Whre can I get VPIC?
Reply-To: pfk@rz.uni-jena.de (Frank Klemm)
Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 19:23:59 GMT


Where can I get VPIC. Response via eMail to:

pfk@physik.uni-jena.de

Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: zdjb01@hou.amoco.com (Douglas J. Boddy)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Family tree software recommenda
Reply-To: zdjb01@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:25:55 GMT


I use Personal Ancestoral File from the Morman Church.
If you have a Morman church close by, check the yellow pages under
churches.  Many of them have a family history center.
They may be able to give you details.

I also like Brother's Keeper for the charts that it produces.
It is a shareware program.
From: davel@comtch.spk.wa.us (Dave Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: HELP: How to increase the DOS enviormental space?
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:21:47 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

> 
> HOw can I increase the envoirment space ?  I was considering install C compil
> on my PC but there are more varibles to define... ;-(
> 
In your CONFIG.SYS, insert the following line:
SHELL=x:\COMMAND.COM /e:640 /p

Where x is the drive from which you normally boot your system (Drive C: 
probably). Please note that if a copy of COMMAND.COM cannot be found in 
the root of the drive you specify, you will need a boot disk for your 
first floppy drive to correct your error. 8-)
Also note that the /e: parameter can be set to numbers higher or lower 
than I specified in my sample. 
If you haven't heard of 4DOS, you might want to take a closer look at 
some of the tricks it does with the environment. 

Hope this helps....

Dave

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davel@comtch.spk.wa.us (Dave Laird)
IEAx for lack of a better name... (509) 624-0744
From: gblin@mcs.drexel.edu (Bin Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: How to read MAC disks on PC?
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:59:58 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

Does anyone out there know how to read a MAC disk on 
a PC? I know MAC can read/convert PC disk/file with
Apple File Exchage. But it's done on MAC. I would
really like this to be done on a PC, even I have to
pay for the software and hardware. Please help!

Thanks in advance!

Bin.

PS: Sorry if this is in FQA. I have seen this question
be asked couple of times. But I didn't read them.
-- 
Bin Lin
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Drexel University
Philadelphia, PA 19104
From: harden@acsu.buffalo.edu (Alex Harden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: What to use playing .SND-files
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:22:41 GMT
Organization: UB

Mikael@hik.se (Mikael Svensson) writes:

>Hello.

>Just wonder where to get a software to play .SND-files with.

>Is it possible to convert .SND-files into Windows-format? How to do it?

>Thanks.

i'm looking for a response to the second point.  i'm in need of a converter
for .snd to .wav formats.

please post any responses to this newsgroup.

thanks also!


-- 
alex harden-------------- "if we forget yesterday, we're bound to repeat it
harden@acsu.buffalo.edu--  tomorrow; it's not too late to start today,
harden@cs.buffalo.edu----  better off safe, than sorry."
v409epk3@ubvms.bitnet----                     - extreme, "stop the world"
From: timk@ycrdi.com (Tim King)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: *** WARNING *** PKZIP 2.04c is infected by a virus.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:56:16 EST
Organization: Young Chang R&D Institute
Reply-To: timk@ycrdi.com
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <3546@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> (comp.compression), nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico E de Vries) writes:
> 
> According to warning messages on wuarchive.wustl.edu the PKZIP 2.04c
> is a virus infected version. The virus detected is the "Maltese Amoeba"
> one.
[ . . . ]
> Clearly some smart cracker have used their chance. It might take ages before
> everyone has a reliable PKZIP 2.0x....

My recommendation to all is that you get your PKZIP directly from PKWARE!
For unregistered copies, one can call the PKWARE BBS.  (I assume that
PKWARE keeps tight strings on its own BBS.)  All of the information
necessary to do any of this is included in the PKZIP shareware distribution,
and it should be easy to come by.

-TimK

-- 
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timk@ycrdi.com            |     |  |      really there.  A poorly-documented
Young Chang R&D Inst.     | >  <>  |      limitation is far too present.
                          |/      <>
   *** Original material copyright (C) 1992 J. Timothy King ***

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: brownd@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (David H Brown)
Subject: Suggestion for US Income Tax software?
Summary: bad experience with ChipSoft
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:29:45 GMT

[Apologies if this isn't the best group for this; feel free to tell me where
to go if this isn't the best place!]

I writing to request suggestions for a US income tax preparation program to
run on a DOS-only (640K) computer.

My mom has recently had a bad experience with the JK Lasser program from
ChipSoft (poorly redesigned user interface [lots of Alt-key combinations] and
wouldn't load background data from last year... last year's version did not
have these problems... she did call tech support re: background data).

Program should be able to handle multiple returns (she does my sister's taxes
for her), loading data from Quicken would be really nice, and ability to
transfer background data (names, dependents, etc.) from year-to-year would be
good, too. I guess ease-of-use is a big concern here.

Thanks for your help. I'll try to follow this group for a while, but e-mail
would be nice...

--
brownd@stolaf.edu (Dave Brown)
Radio Techie, Desktop Publisher, Medieval Recreationist, Trekker, slices
too!
From: rick@wet.UUCP (Rick Rutledge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Problems with SMARTDRIVE and PATH
Date: 10 Jan 93 03:15:35 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

rsl11@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>2. I have aproblem with the path statement of dos.
>If I type the following statement in the dos prompt
>PATH = C:\DOS; C:\WINDOWS; C:\STACKER;
>in capital letters it works but if I put it in a batch file such as the
>autoexec.bat file it tells me "Too many parameters". Does anybody have any
>ideas as to what the problem might be?

First, ditch the spaces.  Second, leave off the last semicolon; you only
need it between paths, not after each path.  Case should be irrelevant; DOS
shifts everything to upper case before parsing it.

Try this:

Path=C:\DOS;C:\Windows;C:\Stacker

Good Luck.
-- 
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"Voici le secret." dit le renard.  "On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur.
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From: bleys@infopls.chi.il.us (Bleys Ahrens)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Great Plains software ????
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 18:27:26 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

sk@twg.com (Shantanu Kothavale) writes:

> Hi,
> 
> 	Is there a software product or company named "Great Plains" or
> something like that?  I have a friend who needs to know.  He doesn't know
> what it does, but it could be related to databases, Novell and/or backups.
> 
> 	I'd appreciate any information on this (and so would he!).
> 
> 
> 
> 							Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> 							Shantanu R. Kothavale
> 
> -- 

I know of someone who is using a package on a MAC called Great Plains. 
It is a fairly comprehensive small business accounting package.  I don't
know whether Great Plains is the name of the company or just the
program.

Bleys Ahrens


--
bleys@infopls.chi.il.us (Bleys Ahrens)
Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247, v32bis. Home of Infoplus.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: bryanw@rahul.net (Bryan Woodworth)
Subject: Re: Linux for DOS
Organization: a2i network
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:56:27 GMT

In <3422@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> iks@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Ivan K. Samuelson) writes:

>I am wanting to acquire LINUX for DOS, but I'm not sure what files I need.
>I have a 386-SX/33mhz machine with 2megs of memory. I have heard that Linux
>is a Unix operating system for IBM machines and offers excellent multi-
>tasking capabilities. I have found the files for LINUX, but what are the
>files I need to start the system up and running?

>Also, what are some good applications to get with it? Is there X-Windows
>for Linux?


Ivan,  Please go to comp.os.linux and read the FAQ when it appears there.
It is posted about every week.  You can run X windows on your system, but
it would be very slow and probably not worth it.

I am on a 386/25, with 8 megs of RAM, and X win was fast.. But picture
viewing (gif, jpg, etc) was slow because of all the overhead.  It just
takes too long.  20 seconds to view a 640x480x256 GIF!  With a 486 this
time is trimmed to 5 seconds.  

That's just my experience, I may have had it configured poorly (doubt it).

They recommend at least 8 megs of RAM for x win.  If you want to just peddl
with the unix like utils, 2 meg may be enough.  But for compiling you need
at least 4 megs.
 
-- 
Bryan Woodworth <bryanw@rahul.net>
From: eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Is there a PCX-GIF convertor somewhere
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:27:02 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway

I'm looking for a pcx-gif or pcx-tiff convertor that can run MS-DOS (not  
MS-Windows). The type of user interface is irrelevant.

Please let me know where I can find one.

Eystein Dugstad
University of Bergen, Norway
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Problems with SMARTDRIVE and PATH
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:49:55 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

rsl11@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

> a) devicehigh=c:\smartdrv.sys     in the config.sys file or
> b) loadhigh=c:\smartdrv.exe       in the autoexec.bat file

> What is the difference between the 2 statements?

SMARTDRV.SYS is an older version of SmartDrive.  SMARTDRV.EXE is the
latest version.  You should use the later version if you want enhanced
performance (using write caching).  However, you should NOT use the
LOADHIGH command, because SmartDrive will automatically load high, and
you should let it do that itself.

> Also, how much cache would be recommended to have with a total of 4MB ram when
> you run windows?

The default is 2 MB outside of Windows, 0.5 MB inside Windows.  This is
reasonable, but you can change it around if your applications are
different.

>2. I have aproblem with the path statement of dos.
>If I type the following statement in the dos prompt
>PATH = C:\DOS; C:\WINDOWS; C:\STACKER;
>in capital letters it works but if I put it in a batch file such as the
>autoexec.bat file it tells me "Too many parameters".

Remove the spaces after the semicolons (;), and remove the last
semicolon.  The equal sign (=) is also not necessary.

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From: johannes.beekhuizen@contrast.wlink.nl (Johannes Beekhuizen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: WANTED:  Backup utility with compression
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:11:54

Hello Jerry,

On Wednesday January 06 1993, Jerry Palsson wrote to All:

 JP> ARJ230 will do the job.  It comes with a pre-defined command string

It certainly will. And it can handle multiple floppies :)

 JP> Note, however, that like PKZIP it's shareware, not public domain.
 JP> Widely available, so you should have no trouble loacting it.

ARJ does not request a registration when used for private purposes. On the
other hand, I liked it so much I registered anyway :))


Regards,

           Hans.

fidonet  2:281/527.5
yan-net  123:3183/101
e-mail   johannes.beekhuizen@contrast.wlink.nl
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Word 5 Document Password Protection
From: gavin@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Gavin Clark)
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:59:37 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Salisbury, South Australia

Does anyone know how to password protect a Word 5 document? I don't think it is possible from within Word (I have RTFM) but is there another program that would allow only selected people access to a file on floppy disk?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: don.updyke@stpaul.ncr.com (Don Updyke)
Subject: word windows re
Organization: NCR NPG St Paul Minnesota
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:20:05 GMT

I have used word, word 4, word5/  wordperfect 4.2 5 5.1 wp windows/ and
now I have got rid of everything except word for windows 2.0.

It lets me do it quick clean and read almost anyone elses dos format files
i do not think that I can read a mac word format diskette.

The human interface is great and my wife can even use it and she hates
the computer.  

The BAD point is that you better have more than a 2 meg 386 sx system or'
it will be so slow that you will go back to your old dos word processor.

This is only my personal preference and is not company opinion in any way.
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: sk@twg.com (Shantanu Kothavale)
Subject: Great Plains software ????
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:34:00 GMT

Hi,

	Is there a software product or company named "Great Plains" or
something like that?  I have a friend who needs to know.  He doesn't know
what it does, but it could be related to databases, Novell and/or backups.

	I'd appreciate any information on this (and so would he!).



							Thanks in advance,


							Shantanu R. Kothavale

-- 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: lenny@hobbs.hunt.inmet.com (Lenny Goodman)
Subject: Wanted: Editor for Wordperfect (DOS) macros
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:12:51 GMT

Creating and editing macros in WordPerfect (for DOS) is extremely
tedious - there are no provisions for copying, cutting, and pasting.
WP has an editor (ED) which will edit macros and perform editing functions,
but it is bundled in a large (and I would guess expensive) application
package.

Does anyone know of an editor which will handle WP macro codes??
Thanks.

  -- Len
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.apps:6041 comp.text:1544
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.text
Subject: Postscript print filter
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:10:05
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu

I recall hearing about a shareware/freeware program for translating text
files to postscript similar to "enscript".  Can anyone get me a pointer
to such for MS-DOS?

Thanks

--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Limiting access to a disk partition on IBM PC (seeking)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:04:09 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

David Tal (GSRGAAO@TECHNION.BITNET) writes:

>     I should like to have a program which will allow students access to
> the C:  partition (with password?), but at the same time will not allow
> access to the D:  disk partition.

DR DOS has this capability (password-protecting a partition or directory
or file or whatever), if you don't mind buying DR DOS.

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#define  TRUE   0  |
#define  FALSE  1  |  "911 Emercency Rescue Service - Can you hold, please?"
#endif             |
From: wngai@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Wayne Ngai)
Subject: Printing from Unix to a printer attached to PC terminal
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:50:50 GMT

	Hi!  I was wondering if there is/are any existing program(s) out
there that would allow for a PC terminal to print a file on the Unix
machine to the local printer that's attached to the PC terminal. e.g.
say I'm hook up to a Unix machine via modem, and I want to print a
file on the Unix machine to my PC printer.  Is there anyway of doing
that without having to download the file to my PC and do some
conversion to printout the file?  i.e. sending the print job to
printer attached to terminal.  If there is such a program, could some
kind soul please tell me where and how can I get a hold of it?

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
--Wayne
From: rsl11@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Problems with SMARTDRIVE and PATH
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:14:59 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hello there,

	I have the following questions:
1. TO simulate disk cache with dos and windows you can either put the
statements
a) devicehigh=c:\smartdrv.sys     in the config.sys file or
b) loadhigh=c:\smartdrv.exe       in the autoexec.bat file

What is the difference between the 2 statements?
Also, how much cache would be recommended to have with a total of 4MB ram when
you run windows?

2. I have aproblem with the path statement of dos.
If I type the following statement in the dos prompt
PATH = C:\DOS; C:\WINDOWS; C:\STACKER;
in capital letters it works but if I put it in a batch file such as the
autoexec.bat file it tells me "Too many parameters". Does anybody have any
ideas as to what the problem might be?

	I would very much appreciate any relevant response.
Feel free to send mail to
Internet Address:telnet tesla.ece.ukans.edu
or
Internet Address: telnet kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
or
Internet Address: gt0430c@prism.gatech.edu
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