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From: chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:42:28 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

>As far as "decimating" the crew, they really didn't have a choice, and the
>writers certainly couldn't forsee the future. The actor (forget) who played
>Gan wanted out shortly after the first season, and Gareth Thomas (Blake) and
>the actress who played Genna (forget again) left after season 2. Gan was
>never replaced, Steven Pacey (Tarrant) filled in for Blake, and Dayna
>replaced Genna. Cally left after season 3, to be replaced by Soolin. Even
>Zen was replaced by Slave (I was saddened at the loss of Zen and his final
>words...).

Speaking of Soolin anyone have any information on this fast-drawing gun-slinging
babe?  Aside from the name Glynis Barber has she done any other BBC stuff or
appeared in any other media?

Or was her casting just as nice scenery?
;-)

W. Christie
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From: ror1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard O. Rouse III)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Doctor Who to Still be on PBS?
Keywords: Doctor Who, PBS
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:21:12 GMT
Reply-To: ror1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


With SFC picking up Doctor Who, does anyone know if PBS is still going
to be able to show it?  I heard a long time ago they wouldn't, but I'm
no certain right now. 

And a while ago, there was talk on here about Shada.  Exactly how did the 
BBC release this?  How many of the episodes were taped, anyway?  And 
what's included in the package?

						-Richard
						ror1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: ccrazy@athena.mit.edu (Ellen Kranzer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Covington Cross--A Review
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:40:18 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <92241.103331JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET> <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>[Stuff deleted]
>The other complaint is about her
>crossbow shooting.  No way would she have the strength to draw one of
>the crossbows of the period.  Even if she had one specially made for
>her, the power of the bow would not be enough to hunt with or shoot
>through even leather armor.

Not necessarily.  This is a common misunderstanding.  In general
people tend to overestimate the draw weights on hunting and target
crossbows (some of these are believed to have been in the 50-80 pound
range), underestimate the strength of individuals who are used to doing
more physical work than we generally do, and, most importantly, forget
about mechanical cocking aids.  We never saw her cock the thing so we
don't know how she did it.  

Personally, I can cock a 80-90 pound crossbow by hand, and I expect
that I would have no trouble cocking a 150 pound crossbow using a
goat's foot or a cocking lever.

Ellen
ccrazy@athena.mit.edu

P.S. This is starting to sound a lot more like rec.org.sca than
rec.arts.sf.tv.
From: rider@geloser.CAM.ORG (Serge Ayotte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Return Of 2 supermarionation in Canada
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:37:33 GMT
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

Hiya folks!

Don't know if this is really news to some but the Canadian YTV will be
showing the Thunderbirds and Stingray this fall on Friday and Saturday!

Boy did my wife looked at me strangely when I started doing the dance of
joy when I saw the commercials... ;-)

Anybody have a better idea of WHEN and at what time it shall be? Got to
set that VCR as fast as posible!
TCTTYL!

See You around the 'Net!!

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From: overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Covington Cross
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:52:52 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <92246.14355334EP2A2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 34EP2A2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (JILL) writes:
>Salute-While it may be true that CC was not very damned accurate eg. tomatoes
> and potatoes at dinner--Shouldn't we be happy that someone is making the
>attempt at portraying history as something human, rather than as a class to be
>skipped or slept through? Despite blatent innaccuracies which have been *well*
>covered in previous posts CC may still be used as a starting point for middle
> and high school medieval history; it gives a common if not broad base on which
> to build, and could raise some interest in otherwise apathetic students.
>
>Jillian and Genny

Well, it is nice to see that there are people who think like we do.  Covington
Cross has some great potential in a television market that is filled with too 
many show on the same topic (ie. police shows and shows about a group of people
living togeather).  We believe that CC will break the cycle of redundancy that
is so common in television today. 

Michael Overland &
Steven Bernstein     (typing with Mike, 'cause I don't usually read this group)


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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: Looking for rec.arts.tv.fiction
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:19:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.110358.27249@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> lmathews@lonestar.utsa.edu (Leanthony R. Mathews) writes:
>I'm looking for the a group to post fan written fiction that is NOT
>about Star Trek.  More like QL, Raven, even 90210.  Does such a group
>exist?

Yes, it's called rec.arts.tv. :-)

>I think this is a group we need. What do you think?

We do need it and you just posted to it.

Welcome to usenet.  :-)

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending: Finale or Cliffhanger?
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:03:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Sep4.172414.21656@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.204300.21375@netcon.cua.edu>, ramsey@cua.edu (Betsy Ramsey) writes:

>>It's my understanding that this episode was designed to be the fourth
>>series cliffhanger.  Unfortunately, the BBC cancelled the show and
>>there was never a fifth series.  So the cliffhanger became the last
>>episode.

>I was given to understand the opposite: That season ending episode 
>was meant to kill the series dead, dead, dead beyond hope of revival.
>(of course, fans are so ingenious)

OK, with apologies to Betsy, who I've debated this at length with before...

The producers had been told that the fourth season was the final one.
However, they had also been told this at the end of the third season,
and perhaps even the one before.  So they were understandably skeptical.
I can imagine the dialogue between Vere Lorrimer and Chris Boucher going
something like this:

"They say this is our final season."
"Heard that one before."
"They say they mean it."
"Sure.  So how are we going to end the show?"
"How about we kill them all?"
"Then we'll get renewed."
"Yeah, guess so.  ...So how about we SORT OF kill them?"

And so Chris wrote "Blake" full of ambiguities and possible ways out from
the deaths of the rebels.  Except for Blake, who he made sure was dead
as a doorknocker because Gareth Thomas demanded it.

Doubt this will ever settle anything, but I hope this helps.
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Yet Another Blake's 7 Question
Date: 25 Aug 92 10:34:32 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <15125@umd5.umd.edu>, otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein) writes:
> In article <1992Aug24.134559.20692@ulowell.ulowell.edu> oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Aug22.142831.58328@cc.usu.edu>, slg7m@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>|> I watched Blake's 7 a few times about a year ago.  At that time, there was a
>>|> Blake and I believe there were even 7 crewmembers.  Since I've started watching
>>|> it again, Blake is gone (presumably dead though Avor doesn't really believe
>>|> it), 2 more of the original crew members have died, their fabulous ship is
>>|> gone, which leaves them with 3 of the 7, ORAC and no Blake.
>>
>>To tell you the truth, unless they counted Zen, they at most had 6. The
>>"original" crew of the Liberator (after a few episodes) were Blake, Genna,
>>Avon, Gan, Villa, and Cally. So, was Zen really considered one of the seven?
>>
>>=======================================================================
>>Brian O'Neill - Systems Manager, Computer Science 	 (508) 934-3645
> 
> Yes, Zen is counted as one of the 7 and I believe that Blake explicitly
> says so at some point.

Alternately, you could also count Orac as a member of the gang.

Lorna 
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From: djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick)
Subject: QL: "A Little Miracle" <possible SPOILERS!>
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:01:55 EDT

Spoiler Warning!  The following MAY contain spoilers for the above named
episode...

^L






















Alright....I think someone fell asleep during the production of this
episode.  I watched it again the other day, and I noticed, in the outside
street shots (some of them, anyway), that the other cars were not of the
era!  If this was 1962, then what the heck were 1970-90 era cars doing 
there?  Did they leap back with Sam?

Seriously, they did a SLOPPY job with this, exterior-wise.  Acting-wise,
pretty good, especially Charles Rocket, who is the only guest star to
appear in more than one episdoe, I believe.  Correct me if I'm wrong on
this one.

Oh, one other thing that bothers me...DID they have power windows in 1962?
And just what year WAS that white Rolls(?) anyway?


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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF channel
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:15:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <6L15PB5w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>
>We have the same problem here in Ventura County, California.  (not all that
>backwater).  We do not get the Comedy Channel, we are not likely to get
>the Sci-Fi channel.  Although I and some friends of mine plan to try and
>get many letters/phone calls, but I doubt they will listen.  And VH-1 is
>piggybacked on Prime Ticket.  CNBC is piggybacked with Playboy.  So it
>doesn't sound to me like many cable stations are going to get Sci-Fi.
>Does anyone know if USA is offering a package deal, to buy USA/Sci-Fi
>channel.  Might be a good idea, or unfortunatly they are going to have
>a hard time selling it.
>

Wow, we must be really deprived here in the Lafayette area. Dimension
Cable doesn't carry the Comedy Channel, Prime Ticket, and Playboy. I
guess that means we're the least likely to get the Sci-Fi channel.

Bummer....

Flip


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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:53:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Sep3.095330.58593
Organization: Utah State University

In article <182nhuINN3qo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jtb5@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin T. Ballard) writes:
> 
> Basically I don't understand it. I say the last episode but I 
> just don't understand what happened. Everybody died but Avon and
> he just laughs maniacally in the end. Am I dense, am I just 
> missing the artistic touch. At first I didn't realize that was the
> end and when I went to watch the next episode I almost died to 
> find it was no longer on. Can somebody sort my confusion and 
> frustration.(Dramatized for posting)

Justin, you know not what you have done!

While I,for one, quite enjoy seeing "Blake" posts, I know that many people
do not.  Perhaps we can keep the debate short this time.
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From: hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH)
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending - SPOILERS
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:25:06 GMT

In article <182nhuINN3qo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jtb5@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin T. Ballard) writes:
>From: jtb5@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin T. Ballard)

>Basically I don't understand it. I say the last episode but I 
>just don't understand what happened. Everybody died but Avon and
>he just laughs maniacally in the end. Am I dense, am I just 

Nope. You didn't miss anything. (Although, from my dim memory of the ending, 
I rather thought that Avon died at the end too - he was laughing just before 
they shot him.) I believe the ending was in line with the rather grim view 
of that universe. People die in situations like theirs and there isn't 
always a happy ending.

Ankh
From: savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Donna (was Re: QL: Toronto Star Article Aug. 25, 1992)
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:33:51 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug28.155131.5887@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, krk1@pyuxe.uucp (24249-knights) says:
> 
> >Aw, come on, Beth -- let's don't wish evil things on Donna.
> >Hasn't she been through enough?
> 
> My vote's for #4, although I tend to wish #1.  When Don was asked
> about this at Leap Con, he said something along the lines of
> he liked having a married character, who didn't know he was
> married, so that he could have the lady of the week.  If only
> VP Quayle had heard that one.
> 
>       Beth Hlabse (eah4@po.CWRU.Edu)  Asst. Sysop  SciFi Sig (GO SCIFI)


Well, for a response to that one, I'd point to Sally Smith's .sig


Rick

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From: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF Channel anywhere?
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:42:29 GMT
Reply-To: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Distribution: na
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.arts.sf.tv, person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:
>So is the sf channel gonna show anywhere?  I don't have cable, so I don't know
>about my local cableCON ( not a typo) system.  From reading the net I hear alot
> of people saying that they are NOT going to get SFC.  Is there anyone who IS g
>oing to get it?

I live in near Annapolis MD and our cable company (North Arundel Cable)
will not be getting it.  We also have another cable company (which my
landlady does not subscribe to) (Jones Intercable) which I have not
checked out.

Leila

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From: jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings)
Subject: Red Dwarf
Reply-To: jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:00:20 GMT

I am curious about this Red Dwarf show.  Does anybody know if it is
shown in Phoenix.  I couldn't find it in my TV guide. 


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From: gletty@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Gletty)
Subject: Re: Covington Cross
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:59:39 GMT

JILL <34EP2A2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>Salute-While it may be true that CC was not very damned accurate eg. tomatoes
> and potatoes at dinner--Shouldn't we be happy that someone is making the
>attempt at portraying history as something human, rather than as a class to be
>skipped or slept through? Despite blatent innaccuracies which have been *well*
>covered in previous posts CC may still be used as a starting point for middle
> and high school medieval history; it gives a common if not broad base on which
> to build, and could raise some interest in otherwise apathetic students.

Depends on which you think is better, uninformed or mis-informed.
Often, the wrong information is worse than no information.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF Channel anywhere?
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 00:34:29 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:

> So is the sf channel gonna show anywhere?  I don't have cable, so I don't kno
> 
> -- 
> Brett Person
> Guest Account	
> North Dakota State University
> person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet

I've a friend who lives in the next town over from me, (different cable
company), and she said that she IS going to be getting it.  So that's
one.  Last I talked to my cable company, (April), they said that they
hadn't had any plans for ANY new channels.  But they did open up 3
channels for the failed tripple-cast one of which they are using for
pay-per-view.  So I'm hoping.  In the meantime, my friend will be
recieving from me LOTS of blank tapes.  :)  I really doubt my 
company will get sci-fi, though,  they are just a rotton company.
See what happens when you have a monopoly and no regulation.
And I say monopoly because without cable around where I live you
cannot get anything on your TV, not even 2-13.  We are at their
mercy.


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From: ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host)
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine ( was RAVEN: picked up for next season)
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 23:34:22 GMT

bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:


>In a previous article, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...) says:

>>In article <1992Aug30.033411.6510@openage.openage.com>, ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes...


>>} I have heard no news about Man & Machine

>>No plans for renewal, and it's doubtful that it will get renewed.


>Actually , my understanding is that they're being "retooled" with plans to
>return as a midseason replacement.

>Source is Starlog magazine.

Maybe they are looking for someone who can do actual music
rather than the trash Devo stuff??

I am glad that the network (still for NBC?) will give it another
chance. Back to Back with QL might be a good position.
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From: z3sam@ttacs1.ttu.edu (The Dude with NO Clue)
Subject: Another QL Crossover.
Organization: Texas Tech University
Reply-To: Z3SAM@TTACS1.TTU.EDU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Quantum Leap, The Raiders of The Lost Ark
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:39:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: ttacs1.ttu.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I just re-watched _The Raiders of The Lost Ark_ after watching _The Young
Indiana Jones Chronicles_, and I have an idea for a crossover which will
explain some of the inconsistencies between them.

Imagine that Sam leaps into the old Indy when he is about to knock out
the German guard in the movie. He says "Oh boy", and notices that 
the guard's uniform, which would have fit Indy doesn't fit him. 
He then starts looking around, and guard #2 says something to him 
in German, which Sam doesn't know, although Indy does (as we see in 
the Young Indy Jones Chronicles).

Later, as he is tied up with (what's her name?), and the Germans are 
opening the ark, Al tells Sam not to look, so they are the only ones
who live. Later, when she asks Sam how he knew not to look, he doesn't
answer her, since he can't very well say that a hologram from the 
future told him not to. 

Sorry about the really long sentences.

Samir (I need a sig) Mahendra.
From: jtb5@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin T. Ballard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Blake's 7 Ending
Date: 2 Sep 1992 15:45:02 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Basically I don't understand it. I say the last episode but I 
just don't understand what happened. Everybody died but Avon and
he just laughs maniacally in the end. Am I dense, am I just 
missing the artistic touch. At first I didn't realize that was the
end and when I went to watch the next episode I almost died to 
find it was no longer on. Can somebody sort my confusion and 
frustration.(Dramatized for posting)
-- 
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					jtb5@po.cwru.edu
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Subject: Re: SF Channel Question
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 11:31:08 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Vertigo) writes:

>      I just returned to the net two days ago, so forgive me if
> this has been beaten to death, but does anyone have a detailed
> list of the shows that are definitely going to be on the sci-fi
> channel?  I was hoping for Quark but I hear that won't happen.
> --
>      

I'm sure somebody here might have it, but this month's Starlog
definatly does.  Hope that helps.  I don't have the particular
Starlog or I'd type it up, I read a friend's copy. 

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