HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell)
Subject: HP DAT tape on SUN-3 ???
Reply-To: markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell)
Organization: RHBNC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:43:39 GMT


We have: sun 3/60; sun-OS 3.5; no satisfactory backup device and an 
under-employed DAT tape drive made by H-P (model C1520A). Please 
could anybody give advice on how we might use this drive on our 
suns? (or warn me if it is impossible) We need a special cable, 
but that is no problem, I have found a supplier. He kindly found 
for us a document which unfortunately refers to sun-os 4 and a 
different model of tape (HP 35470/80). This suggests 

(1) changing switch settings to " Sun mode with Performance bit on"
 = 12345 ON,  678 OFF.  Please does anybody have a doc describing 
the switches on the C1520?

(2) Set SCSI addreses to  4  for rst0/nrst0  and  5  for rst1/nrst1.

(3) Tweak the kernel by editing certain files that we dont have. The
nearest lookalike in OS 3.5 seems to be /usr/sys/sundev/streg.h
Assuming that the kernel sends a "who do you think you are?" to the 
drive and the drive replies "HP", it would seem reasonable to alter
the HP item below to resemble an Exabyte. But should the parameters 
be different?

Thanks, MArk

Below is a fragment from    streg.h  (several lines omitted)

/*
 * Supported tape device types plus default type for opening.
 */
#define ST_TYPE_INVALID		 0
#define ST_TYPE_DEFAULT		 1
..
#define ST_TYPE_HP		 6
..
#define ST_TYPE_EXABYTE		11

/* Defines for supported drive options */
#define ST_VARIABLE		0x01	/* supports variable length I/O */
#define ST_QIC			0x02	/* QIC tape drive */
#define ST_REEL			0x04	/* 1/2-inch reel tape drive */
#define ST_BSF			0x08	/* supports backspace file */
#define ST_BSR			0x10	/* supports backspace record */
#define ST_NODISCON		0x20	/* no disconnect/reconnect support */

/* 
 * Misc defines for unknown SCSI tape drives/controllers 
 */
#define ST_DEFAULT_BSIZE	512
#define ST_DEFAULT_DEN1600	0x00
#define ST_DEFAULT_DEN6250	0x00
#define ST_DEFAULT_SPEED	0x00
#define ST_DEFAULT_OPTIONS	(ST_QIC)
#define IS_DEFAULT(dsi)		(dsi->un_ctype == ST_TYPE_DEFAULT)

/* 
 * Misc defines specific to HP 88780A 1/2-inch reel SCSI-2 tape drive
 */
#define ST_HP_BSIZE		10240
#define ST_HP_DEN1600		0x02
#define ST_HP_DEN6250		0x03
#define ST_HP_SPEED		0x00
#define ST_HP_OPTIONS		(ST_REEL | ST_VARIABLE | ST_BSF | ST_BSR)
#define IS_HP(dsi)		(dsi->un_ctype == ST_TYPE_HP)

/* 
 * Misc defines specific to Exabyte tape controller
 */
#define ST_EXABYTE_BSIZE	1024
#define ST_EXABYTE_DEN1600	0x00
#define ST_EXABYTE_DEN6250	0x00
#define ST_EXABYTE_SPEED	0x00
#define ST_EXABYTE_OPTIONS	(ST_QIC)
#define IS_EXABYTE(dsi)		(dsi->un_ctype == ST_TYPE_EXABYTE)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: kovar@world.std.com (David C Kovar)
Subject: How to write index to start of 8mm tape - and other backup tools?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:04:37 GMT

  Some friends of mine are trying to back up 5 diskfull SPARCs to
one 8mm tape. They're currently writing the tape index to disk since
they cannot determine a good way to put it at the start of the tape
and to still be able to retrieve the rest of the tape at a later
date. 

  I seem to recall that this was possible, but I can't remember how.
Any leads would be most appreciated.

  Also, are there any good public domain backup utilities for
this sort of environment available? Thanks very much.

-David
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Switching modes in cmdtool
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:04:56 GMT
Organization: cic

mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:

>Does anyone know what causes a cmdtool window to switch between scrollable
>mode and cursor motion mode?  Some full-screen programs, such as vi, seem
>to do this correctly, and work normally in a cmdtool window.  Others are
>completely unusable.  I couldn't see anything special in the sun-cmd
>terminfo or termcap entries.  Is it an ioctl?  Magic?

M+|sun-cmd|Sun Microsystems Workstation console with scrollable history:\
	:te=\E[>4h:ti=\E[>4l:tc=sun:

The ti entry switches scrolling off, te switches it back on.
-- 
| ...!unido!ukw!lupe  (German EUNet, "bang")     |  Disclaimer:            |
| lupe@ukw.UUCP       (German EUNet, domain)     |  As I am self-employed, |
| suninfo!alanya!lupe (Sun Germany)              |  this *is* the opinion  |
| Res non sunt complicanda praeter necessitatem. |  of my employer.        |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: zrm30423@nfhsn5.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Florian Wohlgemuth)
Subject: format.dat entry for Quantum LPS240S needed!
Organization: NFH Comp. Cent. (RUS) Uni Stuttgart
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:57:10 GMT


Hi out there!

Please, I need a format.dat entry for the Quantum ProDrive LPS240S.

I will send a working entry to the editor of format.faq.

Thanks a lot,
		Flo
-- 
Florian.Wohlgemuth@RUS.Uni-Stuttgart.de					IRC: flo
From: danba@pogo.wv.tek.com (Daniel J Balza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: netgroups, /etc/exports and problems!
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:55:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.2095
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville, OR.


I have been running NIS, DNS and the automounter for 5 months and life has
been good. I am using SPARC 2's and IPX's running SunOS 4.1.2. This past week I
have run into a wall regarding netgroups.  It seems to be related to the 
order that things are listed in /etc/exports.  Here is an example:

/usr/export/work        -access=sailpc:sail
/export/projects/disk1  -access=sail:sailwks:sailpc

sailpc is a netgroup consisting of 4 PC's running PC/NFS, sail is a group
consisting of 3 IPX's, sailwks is 2 Tektronix workstations.  If sailpc is
listed first, it can almost always mount successfully.  If it is listed last,
it almost never mounts.  The frustrating part is that it is consistently
inconsistent!  I am not having this problem with any other netgroup.  I have
made one of the SPARC 2's part of the sailpc group as a test and it also
fails.  This same SPARC 2 is part of another netgroup that *ALWAYS* works!
I am aware of one bug about the size of each netgroup not being greater than
1024 bytes and I have also cruised the SunSolve CD.  Logic says just change
the order and try and live withit except it doesn't always mount. Another
concern is will I get bit by something else later?

Any theories appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


Dan Balza
<danba@pogo.wv.tek.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: krt@cbnews.cb.att.com (kenneth.r.tishenkel)
Subject: Help!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:26:20 GMT

I would like to know if anyone has used "DECathena" and what they
they think about it ?

DECathena: Services for Open Systems Distributed Computing.
A Powerful New Technology for implementing and Managing the Distributed UNIX
Workstation Environment. 


We are moving our development to a SUN network, and are 
looking for a software/hardware package to manage our large 
distributed UNIX SUN workstations.

Can you recommend any other packages?


Please reply with EMAIL.


      Ken Tishenkel
      AT&T Bell Laboratories
      Columbus, Ohio.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 9:33:03 EST
From: Chao Yuan <yuan@cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: machine type in status of crash command

Hi, everyone,

	I don't whether this is a bug in SunOS 4.1.2. When I use crash
command in Sun IPX and SPARC 2 workstations which run SunOS 4.1.2, I always get this 
status.

-----------------------
dumpfile = /dev/mem,  namelist = /vmunix,  outfile = stat

> status 
version:	SunOS Release 4.1.2 (REFINED_MVLINK) #1: Thu Nov 5 14:30:53 EST 1992
Copyright (c) 1983-1991, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
machine name:	cheshirecat
machine type:	SUN ???
time of crash:	Fri Nov  6 08:28:42 1992
age of system:	17 hr., 46 min.

> quit 

------------------------

I don't know why the machine types is "SUN ???". 

	However, if I do the same in these machines which run SunOS
4.1.3, no such a problem.

	Any comments? Thanks a lot,

Charles
From: masterm@ucrengr.ucr.edu (Boyle Mow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Disabling L1-A sequence?
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:37:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside


Forgive me if this a FAQ, but is there a way to disable the key
sequence of 'L1-A' (used to enter the PROM)?   Thanks in advance.

Boyle

masterm@ucrengr.ucr.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:8204 comp.sys.sun.misc:5232
From: huang1@husc8.harvard.edu (Howard Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: nfsd and update panics
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:33:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.HUANG1.92Nov12143310
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA


I posted about this several weeks ago, and have received reports of
similar problems but no solution.  

We have a SPARCsystem 370 connected to an Alphatronix optical disk
jukebox.  The system runs as an NFS client and server, NIS slave
server, and we have AMD 5.3 alpha.

In the past, under 4.1.2, we got seemingly random data fault and
memory address alignment panics from nfsd and update.  We recently
upgraded to SunOS 4.1.3, and we're discovering that mounting a certain
optical disk will repeatedly cause the update daemon to data fault.  A
typical error is shown below.

We've tried talking to both Alphatronix and Sun, but are still
awaiting responses.  Does anybody else have similar problems, or have
any suggestions?  Also, has anybody else used Alphatronix products?

Thanks muchly,
Howard

--------------

BAD TRAP
pid 187, `update': Data fault
kernel read fault at addr=0x20, pme=0x0
Bus Error Reg 80<INVALID>
pc=0xf81032c0, sp=0xf8368e00, psr=0x118000c2, context=0xd
g1-g7: 11400ae0, 114000e6, ffffffff, 0, f8369000, f8149800, f8149c00
Begin traceback... sp = f8368e00
Called from f8061d18, fp=f8368e60, args=0 f8130af8 f8133dd0 0 f8130af8
fce96668
Called from f80c2fb4, fp=f8368ec0, args=f8368fe0 120 f812e520 f812e640
f8369000 f8130ab8
Called from f8006a64, fp=f8368f58, args=f8369000 f8368fb4 f8368fe0
f8369000 f8369000 f8368fb4
Called from 22c4, fp=f7fff488, args=f80c29a4 5 32 0 f8149800 80001
End traceback...
panic: Data fault
syncing file systems... done
00244 low-memory static kernel pages
00317 additional static and sysmap kernel pages
00000 dynamic kernel data pages
00112 additional user structure pages
00000 segmap kernel pages
00000 segvn kernel pages
00002 current user process pages
00089 user stack pages
00764 total pages (764 chunks)

dumping to vp fce0bf34, offset 295528
764 total pages, dump succeeded
rebooting...

--------------
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Date: 14 Nov 92 04:32:51 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>>I also suspect fewer "engineers, scientists, and assorted techies" than
>>some folks think actually care that much about BSD vs. SV; I suspect
>
>Wrong.  The scientists here are very familiar with a BSD system here.  I've
>been administrating BSD system (2.9BSD and SunOS) for 8 years.

Which says

	ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

about whether they care that much about BSD vs. SV.  It just says that
they're "familiar" - whatever that means - with a BSD system.  They may
well prefer some particular BSD system to some particular SV system;
they may well prefer some particular SV system to some particular BSD
system; they may well find that the differences aren't big enough to
care about.

>Windows NT, you got to be kidding.  I want a real computer with real computing
>power so I can run my doppler algorithms on it.

OK, will one of the new DEC Alpha machines, or a MIPS R4000 or future
R4400 machine, do, once the NT ports to them come out?  (You may have to
wait for full 64-bit support from NT, but then you may have to wait for
full 64-bit support for OpenVMS(TM) on the Alphas, or UNIX(R) on the
R4K's, too; OSF/1 on the Alphas is, I think, supposed to fully support
64-bit mode out of the box.)

>>(Yes, I'm sure you can dig up *individual* exceptions.  Please don't
>>bother doing so, unless you can dig up *enough* individual exceptions to
>>show that the bulk of the technical community is truly in love with a
>>more BSDish UNIX, or even with UNIX in general.)
>
>Although I do not represent the options of the people at the National Severe
>Storms Laboratory, as system manager/adminstrator, I have a general idea
>what they like and dislike.

OK, don't keep us in suspense; tell us how many of them would say:

	"Ick, Solaris 2.x, it's SV-based!";

	"Oh, good, Solaris 2.x, it's SV-based!";

	"BSD, SV, I don't care that much, as long as it lets me get my
	job done.";

	"Screw that, give me NT, so I can run all those Wonderful
	Microsoft(TM) Windows(TM) applications.";  (or is that
	"Microsoft(R) Windows(TM)", or "Microsoft(TM) Windows(R)", or
	"Microsoft(R) Windows(R)"; I forget)

	"They all suck, I'm waiting for Pink.";

	"MVS - now *there's* an operating system!";

	<other>.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
Subject: Re: Setting prompt to two lines
Organization: Intellection, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:49:15 GMT

In article <cels.1.721289143@stel.csir.co.za> cels@stel.csir.co.za (Chris Els) writes:

   I would like to set up the prompt in the .cshrc file (I am using the c-shell)
   to display the current directory path, go to the next line, and sit and wait 
   there for further instructions. The \n character does not work.

Here is an excerpt from my .cshrc.

----- cut here -----
alias cd 'cd \!* && reprompt'
alias pushd 'pushd \!* && reprompt'
alias popd 'popd && reprompt'
alias reprompt 'set prompt = "\\
\\!. ` hostname `:` dirs `\\
% "'
reprompt
----- cut here -----
-- 
Ed McGuire                   1603 LBJ Freeway, Suite 780
Systems Administrator/       Dallas, Texas 75234
 Member of Technical Staff   214/620-2100, FAX 214/484-8110
Intellection, Inc.           <ed@intellection.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Subject: need format.dat for Micropolis 1548-15
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:13:48 GMT

I'm trying to format a Micropolis 1548-15.  Neither SunOS 4.1.1 nor
Solaris 2.0 (FCS) can apparently manage it.  The best format.dat entry
I have come up with so far is

disk_type = "Micropolis 1548-15" \
        : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 30 \
        : ncyl = 2097 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2099 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 107 \
        : rpm = 3600

I'm trying to set it up like this:

partition> print
Current partition table (puffer):
Part      Tag    Flag     Cylinders        Size       Blocks
  0       root    wm       0 -   15       12.54MB    (16/0/0)
  1       swap    wu      16 -   56       32.13MB    (41/0/0)
  2     backup    wu       0 - 2096        1.60GB    (2097/0/0)
  3 unassigned    wm      57 -  108       40.75MB    (52/0/0)
  4 unassigned    wm     109 -  236      100.31MB    (128/0/0)
  5        usr    wm     237 -  300       50.16MB    (64/0/0)
  6       home    wm     301 -  428      100.31MB    (128/0/0)
  7 unassigned    wm     429 - 2096        1.28GB    (1668/0/0)

partition>

When I try to write the partition table and label, Solaris 2.0's
format program says

	partition> label
	Ready to label disk, continue? y
	 
	Warning: error writing VTOC.
	Illegal request during read: block 3349512 (0x331c08) (2086/13/91)
	ASC: 0x0   ASCQ: 0x0
	Warning: error reading backup label.
	Illegal request during read: block 3349512 (0x331c08) (2086/13/91)
	ASC: 0x0   ASCQ: 0x0
	...
	Warning: no backup labels
	Label failed.
	partition> 

Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403)
Subject: Re: yppasswdd behavior (SunOS vs AIX)
Organization: Prospect Electricity, Sydney
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 07:16:44 GMT

In article <1d6jb5INNpjn@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
>In article <jgabriel.720755006@academ01> jgabriel@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Ing. Juan Gabriel Ruiz) writes:
>>I'm just trying to investigate some trouble we have. We have some
>Yppasswdd doesn't use any mechanism to check whether the password change
>request is coming from a superuser process.  Therefore, it cannot trust a
>request unless it includes the old password.
>
>If you want to change a user's password without having to type the old one,
>you'll have to login to the NIS master and use the ordinary passwd(1)
>command.
>-- 
This won't work either. At least not unless the NIS master uses
the /etc/passwd file as the distributed password file.
However, there is an option on 'passwd' which allows you to
specify the 'passwd' file.

So you can:

log into the NIS master 

invoke passwd as:

passwd -F NIS_passwd_file userid

In this case, you are not prompted for the original password.
-- 
% Brenda Parsons                  
% Currently at Prospect Electricity
% 10 Smith Street, Parramatta 2150, Australia
% +61 2 635 0300              e-mail:   parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au
From: jkovacs@qualix.com (Jean Kovacs)
Subject: NEW TranScript 4.0 from Adobe
Keywords: transcript postscript printers
Reply-To: jkovacs@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:51:29 GMT



Adobe recently announced version 4.0 of TranScript.
I don't want to use this space as an product ad, but
know that there are a lot of system administrators out there
with PostScript printers on their network that might be able
to use some of the new features!

For more information, check out comp.newprod or request
information automatically from the Qualix mail server. 
(If you're not familiar with the Qualix mail server, see
below.)

Jean Kovacs
Qualix Group
1900 So. Norfolk St. #224
San Mateo, CA 94403
1-415-572-0200



	
GETTING TRANSCRIPT INFORMATION VIA THE QUALIX MAIL SERVER:
---------------------------------------------------------


Qualix Group maintains a mailserver with information files
and demo versions of products. If you'd like more information
on Adobe TranScript, send an e-mail to qfacts@qualix.com
(or uunet!qualix!qfacts) and include the following lines:

send transcript.info


End the message with your name/company name/phone or fax
number.

The TranScript information will automatically be sent
to you.






Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: humesdg1@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Humes David G. PDP x6651 )
Subject: OpenWindows 3.0 compatibility with Solbourne OS4.1A
Keywords: openwindows X11 Solbourne
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:06:00 GMT

	Is anyone aware if Sun's Openwindows 3.0 should run on top of
Solbourne's OS4.1A?  I just tried installing it and when you run the openwin
script to start Openwindows, the xinit line blows up with a segment violation
when trying to start the xnews server.  Does Openwindows have to run with the
xnews server?  Is there any documentation out there that might be useful in 
this area?  Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold)
Subject: change keyboard repeat delay?
Reply-To: era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold)
Organization: Nat'l Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR); Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:34:50 GMT

Can some kind soul tell me via email if there is a way to change the key repeat
delay (i.e., the time between when I press a key, and it starts repeating) on
a sparcstation under sunos 4.1.x?  I've tried the 4.1.3 answerbook but came
up empty-handed.

Will post a summary if anyone has an answer.  Thanks in advance,
--
Ed Arnold * NCAR * POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307-3000 * 303-497-1253(voice)
303-497-{1298,1137}(fax) * internet: era@ncar.ucar.edu * bitnet: era@ncario
compuserve: internet:era@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: sgccpxb@citec.oz.au (Paul Brown 2245719)
Subject: Probably not the spot
Organization: CITEC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:38:33 GMT


This probably isn't the spot for putting a question like this but here goes:


anyone know what the restrictions are on licencing HP Soft Fonts.

e.g.  We have aroung 40 HP printers and have discovered Soft Fonts that
      we want to download to them.  question is, do we have to buy 40
      licences of the Soft Font, or can we just have one and download
      to each printer as required ?

Thanx
-- 
+----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+
|Justin Ryall          |                                                     |
|                      |                                                     |
|under the guise -     |                                                     |
QUIT
                |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: bert@indigo2.pisces.macsch.com (Bert Engelenburg)
Subject: interleaf -> newsprint sparcprinter problem
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Keywords: interleaf newsprint interleaf
Reply-To: b_engelenburg@macsch.com
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:03:52 GMT

Hai,

I am having a problem with Newsprint , using a sparcprinter, in
combination with interleaf software.

SunOS 4.1.2 , Newsprint 2.0 and interleaf 5.3

When a interleaf document using font swiss or thames , is printed with
newsprint on a sparcprinter the print output appears to be dirty (
the calculation of the image of the characters seems to go wrong ,
characters do not look nice )

According to interleaf this is a Newsprint problem, anybody having the same
problems ? Solution ?

regards

bert


-- 
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B_Engelenburg@macsch.com                       Groningenweg 6 
                                               2803 PV Gouda                    
tel : 31-1820-36444 fax : 31-1820-38418        The Netherlands 
******************************************************************************
From: jpd@discovery.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Disabling L1-A sequence?
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:44:24 GMT
Reply-To: jpd@discovery.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University

Here's the feed from a previous discussion
---
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Joseph P. DeCello III                      e-mail:  jpd@cad.msu.edu
Michigan State University                      ph:  (517) 353-3027 
Specialized Computing Support Services              10am - 5pm EST
Article 1323 of comp.sys.sun.admin
From: vperc@thor.calgary.chevron.com (l. david percifield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Korn shell for Suns.
Keywords: Korn shell
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:56:01 GMT
Organization: chevron


Does anyone know if there is a public domain Korn shell for Sun workstations
or where on might obtain the Korn shell source?

-- 
  L. David Percifield                 	Internet: vperc@chevron.com
  Systems Support	                Unix & Open Systems
  CPTC      				Tel: (403) 234-5201
  Calgary, Alberta, Canada  		Fax: (403) 234-5215
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: chupchup@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Robert Earl)
Subject: Re: rsh and rcp trouble(Where are you?)
Organization: (EVIL!)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:23:40 GMT

ajt@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tony Travis) writes:

| Mike Lang (mike@chtm.eece.unm.edu) wrote:
| : When I try to do a rcp from one sun to another I always get
| : Where are you?

| I traced this to "biff" in .cshrc or .login :-(

| set the csh mail variable instead.

"biff" should work fine in .login, or surrounded by something like

if ($?prompt) then
	biff y
endif

in .cshrc.   No need to give something up just because it's put in
.cshrc incorrectly!

-- 
robert earl          |
rearl@ucsd.edu       | "I got a bottle of tequila, baby, who needs friends?"
rearl@piggy.ucsb.edu |   --Johnette Napolitano, Concrete Blonde
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