HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:47:32 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) says:
> 
> My question is, is the the same Golden Spectro or is it a different 
> formulation specifically for BMW bikes (which I find hard to believe).

Spectro Oil Inc. makes two motor oils that they sell themselves:

1) Spectro 4, a mineral-based oil;
2) Golden Spectro, a synthetic blend.

Spectro also makes the BMW oil, which is basically #1, the Spectro 4
oil, but it has additional additives. It's better oil than normal Spectro,
but not as good as Golden Spectro.

Yes, it is formulated especially for BMW. It's sold in 55-gallon drums
and in quart bottles with the BMW logo on them to BMWNA, who sell it to
their dealers. As far as I know, it is ONLY available in the USA.

Spectro also makes the shaft/gearbox oil that BMW sells here.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: non-Corbin replacement saddles?
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:33:20 GMT
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute


In the last flurry of "I bought a Corbin saddle and I love/hate it", one of
the "hated it" posters mentioned another brand of replacement saddle that was
supposedly cheaper than Corbin but just as good. Anyone have the name handy,
and maybe a contact number?

Alternatively, does anyone have a good suggestion for other replacements for a
1977 GS750 saddle? The one on the bike now is of the butt-cupping,
too-soft-for-long-rides variety, and it just won't do.

Dan
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: The man without a number
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.162245.26379@megatek.com> megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.145210.10222@news.nd.edu> Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>|They do have Usenet services in the state penitentiaries, dont they?
>
>  Strange you should mention this, since this came up in discussion between
>myself and a couple other Denizens about a year and a half ago, and I did some
>research into it.
>
>  Nope, no NetNews in prison.  Sorry...  Does that mean that Tracy is safe?
>
	I could have sworn that I saw some postings from somebody in prison.
	Now who was that?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone named
	Dorsey or something like that, post about his unfortunate run-in
	with our brethern the police?

	anyone else remember that post?

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Lubrication
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:55:45 GMT

In article <viking.714717852@vincent1.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
+bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker) writes:
+
+>blumstein writes:
+>> Another benefit that dry sumps have is that since the oil is outboard
+>> of the engine, it runs cooler, thus keeping the engine slightly cooler.
+
+>could someone please explain paul's latest joke to me.  i think it went
+>over my head.
+
+	The oil tank will allow the oil to lose some heat by convection,
+as the air flowing by it will allow some heat to be transferred.  It's
+not much.  My dry sump with 5qt capacity still breaks 320 degrees F on
+a fast run across Oaklahoma.

320F??  My Low Rider runs 200-210F, thermomometer in the sump oil.

____________________________________________________________________________
	    So many restaurants, so little time!
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 Paul D. Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Summary: Priming w/ no prime position
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:52:58 GMT
Organization: NASA

In article <1992Aug27.135750.9713@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
>
>No prime? How do you refill the carbs after you've completely run out of
>gas or when starting your bike after it's been stored with empty carbs?
>

My 84 Sabre has no prime, only on/off/reserve.  To prime, I simply pull out 
the short vent hose for the vacuum diaphragm,  and blow gently for a few
seconds.  It doesn't take much pressure to pop open the valve.  Of course,
I make sure no one is looking first, to avoid any flaming regarding some
sort of sexual preference toward bikes.

-------------------
Tom Gent   tom-gent@kssib.ksc.nasa.gov
84 Sabre
89 ZX-10

no DoD #
no .sig
(too busy riding perhaps?)
From: neals@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Neal Sorensen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: CBR 1000
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:19:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: vice.10265
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.


Sorry my last entry was cut off so here goes again.

I have a friend looking for a 90/91 Honda CBR 1000. Must have
low mileage and be in good shape. He would also be interested
in information about any new ones on show room floors. Reply
by Email or 501-526-8730.

Thanks  Neal.
 
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From: loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson)
Subject: Re: Earplugs
Organization: Centre for the Physics of Materials
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:39:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.130158.3808@colorado.edu> matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>After reading interesting comments about EAR, ProTech, Mack's, Quiet,
>and other brands of earplugs, I've come to realize there's a lot of
>hidden information out there that should be immortalized in Loki's
>motorcycle product review archives.  How about we all write up reviews
>of our favorite plugs and start an earplug category in the archive?
>
	I'm just slightly ahead of you there.  I started culling the
  ear plug postings a few days ago.  I don't think that I got them all
  but enough to offer in the archives (under ~ftp/pub/DoD/Accessories/Misc).

	HOWEVER, that shouldn't stop any of you from formalizing the
  info that you have on earplugs (or anything else) and sending it to

	rm-reviews@physics.mcgill.ca

Anonymous FTP access:	ftp.physics.mcgill.ca (132.206.9.13)
Archive Email server:	rm-reviews@ftp.physics.mcgill.ca

Note: the difference in Email server and review submission addresses

>Loki posted the info about archive access a couple of days ago.  Thanks
>again, Loki!
>
	And I just posted it again.  Any old excuse to keep you
all up-to-date :o)  You're welcome.

---                            _    ___
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                                \\(=/___   
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Physics, McGill University      / // \           fax:   (514) 398-6526
Montreal Quebec CANADA         / / \  \          phone: (514) 398-7027
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			     (o/     \__)
                    -*  Mechanically  misanthropic  *-
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From: kkw@wam.umd.edu (Katarina Wong O'Gara)
Subject: Re: Earplugs
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:04:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.033446.16246@colorado.edu> matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.020900.26184@wam.umd.edu> kkw@wam.umd.edu (Katarina Wong O'Gara) writes:
>>Mack's ("pillow soft") silicone earplugs, available at Rite Aid, ...
>>block out wind and road noise better than the normal foam type.
>
>What is their decibel rating?
>-- 
>-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)

NRR is 22 db.
-- 
  James F.X. O'Gara
  kkw@wam.umd.edu

P.S.  I don't usually leave postscriptums, but I'll make this an exception.
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From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: lane_splitting
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:51:36 GMT

	In Calif. ON THE FREEWAY (read that = NOT on city street)
white lining (the correct term) is permitted within the CHP guide
lines, up to 15 mph above the traffic speed up to 30 mph max. It
is safer than riding in the traffic lanes because;
1. You don't get rear-ended by some fool reading a book or playing
   with his toy celluloid telephone.
2. You maintain enough air flow to keep your engine from going
   into meltdown.

	Unrelated but interesting, motorcycle deaths in Calif.
San Fernando Daily News reported a few weeks ago that motorcycle
related deaths are up 8% this year. Don't suppose that might be
related to the helmet law do you?


	More unrelated: Know why they call that cute little
Honda a shadow? Because it looks like a real Harley but there's
nothing to it.

	Ed Campbell
'57 FL (560,000 mi, 3 rebuilds)
'76 XLCH (136,000 mi, 1st rebuild comming up)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
	"The only substitute for cubic inches is more
	 cubic inches"
			Racer Brown ca. 1954
=====================================================================
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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Accident Report
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:30:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.204211.16339@ncsu.edu> jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu  writes:
+
+In <1992Aug21.211610.11992@rtsg.mot.com>, Dave writes:
+
+
+>interslab when it gets dark, rather than a smaller road (like I
+>usually do on a trip when it rains).
+>
+>Any other thoughts?
+>
+
+Yeah, what happened to the dog?

Read the other article about the weenie bite contest.

____________________________________________________________________________
	    So many restaurants, so little time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul D. Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Blaine: Re: Winner of the Official(tm) (bs) DoD Ba
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: dboyd@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.



Hey Blaine, e-mail to you bounced twice. and then 2 others asked me the same  
question so I'm posting my answer here:

----------------------

Hi Blaine, how are you? Nice to hear from you! We're gearing up for the long  
weekend. Lissa and I are having a ride/party on Sunday, at least 23 people have  
rsvp'd already! Should be fun. Can you make it?  :-)

	>Steve McQueen's credit card???
	
I don't know how true it is, but in the 60's the story went that Steve McQueen  
had a beef with AT&T, they settled in/out? of court with $1 million worth of  
phone credit. He was pissed so released his phone credit card number to the  
public through an ad in a newspaper. The street people of the day; the hippies,  
picked up on it and ran with it.

It could be one of those urban folklore stories, but I tend to believe it's at  
least partly true because I used to move a lot between coasts in those days and  
the same number would show up everywhere and it *was* good. You can imagine it  
quickly went over the limit and caused AT&T a lot of problems. There was no  
automatic computerized checking in those days. So few people had credit card  
numbers that operators generally let these calls go through with no problems.

I haven't thought about that in a *long* time.

Byeeee, Diana

DIANA BOYD	"Walking with the spirit, talking with the spine
EVO Woman	 Mama sing, open up yourself when worlds align."
KLR Woman                                            -C. Whitley
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: romanko@waterloo.hp.com (Jeff Romanko)
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:34:10 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Getting back to the FZ's, I believe the reason for the electronic reserve
on the Fazer was this:  Since the gas tank is somewhat below the carbs, an 
electronic fuel pump is needed (I'm not sure about the FZ version though).
Perhaps Yamaha thought that a better(?) way to work the reserve tank problem
was to allow a sensor within the tank to tell when fuel is low.  At this point
an idiot light comes on.  A little further down the road the fuel pump shuts
right off, then you have to switch it back on with the reserve switch.  I 
thought this was an interesting (if not reliable) way of doing it rather
than designing a tank with two seperate levels.  What normally happens with
the Fazer is that when you remove the tank cover you are prone to dropping
a screw down the tank.  Then  when you dig it out you end up damaging the
sensor mechanism.  I'm not sure about your case with the FZ but something
simular may have happened.  In any case the sensors are really expensive
but can often be fixed by simply resoldering a broken wire.  Good Luck.

-JefFZX750.
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Road tip #1 (Cleaning your seat)
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:38:16 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Chris Steinbroner (hesh@cup.hp.com) wrote:
: MARC A. TISSEUR (marct@vax2.concordia.ca) wrote:
: : _Cleaning your seat_
: :         When washing your bike, just stick to plain soap and water
: : for your seat and stay away from Armor All.
: 
: corrolary to cleaning tip:
: 	
: 	don't wash your bike, ever; after about a year, it achieves
: 	a steady state -- it doesn't get any worse, and occasionally
: 	looks "good" after a particulary deep river crossing.  the
: 	problem with this is that it's subject to hit-and-run cleanings
: 	by good-meaning friends -- you may find your license plate washed,
: 	making the rest of the bike look especially dirty in comparison.
: 
: 
: -- hesh


My bike gets a wash once a year, when it goes in for it's 25,000 mile service.
The BMW dealer has to wash it because the mechanics refuse to work on it 
otherwise.  They always complain about it but they forget after about 9 months.
I had some work done to it this year and the bastards cleaned the number plate!


Nick (the clean Biker with a dirty bike (and licence!))  DoD 1069  MAG 73516

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: Helmet Law Editorial
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:31:07 GMT

In article <moseley.70.715462158@u.washington.edu> moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
>I recognize and respect 
>those who argue against helmet laws because of the "freedom of choice" 
>argument, but I'll give up that small freedom for the enormous benefit to 
>those who refuse to ever wear helmets because they don't think they do any 
>good.

	Why?  Why do you think you have a right to decide for others?  Why do
you feel obligated to "save them from themselves?"  Leave well enough alone
and let evolution take its course.
-
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114   1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	   (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Painting My GoldWing
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:24:40 GMT

In article <!qknmyn.dhawk@netcom.com> dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins) writes:
>
>OK, my paint job on the GoldWing is completely shot. It was red and
>the sun has bleached it to white.  No kidding.  
>
Stuff deleted
>
>I did a little reading and don't feel up to giving them the full
>treatment by renting a paint gun.  So I was looking for a reason why I
>can't just use spray paint?  How bad could it look?  I could always
>sand it if I didn't like it and turn it over to a professional.
>
>Thoughts?  Opinions?

You are correct.  You can spray paint it.  As a matter of fact,
you can use house paint.  How bad could it look?  Not a bit
worse than the day you bought it.  BTW, a real professional
won't touch a Gold Wing but will suggest spray paint or house paint.


Jack Waters II

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Make no Mistake, I am the Red Fishnet.         ~
~                                DoD#1919        ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Tank Slappers...
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:55:22 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

Could someone explain how tank slappers happen? I don't see why 
severe oscillation should occur just because the front wheel gets
light.  Any enlightenment would be appreciated...

Thanks in advance!

- Mark

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Mark S. Burnham   (markb@wc.novell.com)    '90  ZX750R
Novell, Inc.                     "Here's a Twinkie, pack the wound..."   
1340 Treat Blvd. #500                             - S. White
Walnut Creek, CA 94596          ** I don't speak for my employer... ** 
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From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: The DoD Buckles are IN THE MAIL
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:23:05 GMT

The subject says it all.  They went into the mail this morning.

Hope you all like them.

Arnie
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From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Re: NY Rte 17 sucks
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:55:08 GMT

earutter@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Ethan Rutter) writes:

>In article <Btwzoq.LAD@apollo.hp.com> heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder) writes:
>>
>>I rode Route 17 across NY in July, and it sucked. The road is concrete
>>blocks with major bumps between blocks - my spine was screwed for days.
>>
>>Anybody have a better way to get from Boston to Binghamton in under 7 hours,
>>and on a fun road at the same time?
>>

>My folks live in Ithaca (just northwest of Binghamton), and from what I've
>seen, NY has *very* few good riding roads.  The only way to save your spine
>is to ride the Interstates, and there's no guarantee they're much better.

By cage, I used to take I90 West into NY, then get onto I88 South/West
and take I88 all the way to Binghamton.  I90 is pretty good as far as
interstates go, and you can do 65 legally on some stretches.  I88 is
*very* good; little traffic, well-maintained and, best of all, it's
NOT a toll road.

If you want to avoid interstates, you could take I20, which runs
parallell with I90 thru MA.  I don't know if it's any good tho, and I
would suspect it isn't.
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: slappers
Keywords: wobbler
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:34:48 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

gxw@crosfield.co.uk (garry wilmot) asks:

>Can someone please clarify what causes tank slappers and how
>to ride them out.

A Tank Slapper is an oscillation in the steering of a motorcycle,
generally caused by some external factor, such as hitting a 
pothole or coming down from a wheelie with the handlebars turned.
The oscillation can range from a small wobble which is quickly
dampened to a full scale tank slapper which rips the handlebars
out of your hands and swings the steering from lock to lock.

The geometry of the frame and steering determines to a large part a
motorcycle's tendency to get into a tank slapper.  In general, a
quicker-steering bike is more likely to develop an oscillation.
Racers often modify the geometry of their bikes to make them turn
quicker and this, along with the high speeds involved, often requires
the addition of a steering damper - a kind of sideways shock absorber
intended to dampen oscillations before they become problematic.

There are differing opinions on how to handle a tank slapper.
Some suggest relaxing your grip on the handlebars to allow the
bike to sort itself out.  Others recommend gripping the bars
firmly to attempt to dampen the oscillation.  I've tried both
method with success, so I don't have a strong opinion either
way.  My worst slapper was also my first.  I hit a large
pothole at about 70 MPH.  The impact was enough to bend both
my mirrors down.  I momentarilly lost hold of the handlebars
and the front tire made the arc-shaped skidmarks mentioned by
someone else.  Not knowing what else to do, I grabbed the bars
and tried to stop the oscillation.  I was eventually successful,
though I had very sore shoulders after that!  As I've learned
more about riding, I've become a believer in the bike's ability
to sort itself out, and strive to reduce the inputs I make to
it.  Thus in more recent wobbles (though not as severe as
the one described above), I've reacted by relaxing my grip on
the bars and letting the bike move around underneath me.  This
has worked fine so far, and with less drama.  Finally, I've had
wobbles which were induced by hard acceleration over bumpy
surfaces - these I've solved by getting off the throttle to
get weight back on the front tire.

Oh BTW, there's another definition for "Tank Slapper", which is
"A particularilly good motorcycle-related joke."  If this is 
what you were asking about, ignore the above!  :-)
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: AMA #'s in .sig files.
Keywords: NOT a good idea.
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 18:29:51 GMT

In article <19912@drutx.ATT.COM> klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes:
>As I was reading a posting on the net recently, I noticed one of the many
>signatures that contain the poster's AMA number.  For some reason that
>made me think back to a series of articles in the American Motorcyclist
>about the Britisher who has a bug up his butt about leg protectors on
>motorcycles.  He is trying to force their installation by lobbying
>lawyers in the United States to encourage lawsuits based on injuries
>received as a result of a "lack of leg protectors".
...
>The reason I bring this up is that posting one's AMA number on a
>worldwide net, whose access is relatively unrestricted, could have unforseen
>results.  The poster is providing anyone who cares to use it, the
...

Firstly, most anyone with enough brains to get through law school and pass
the bar exams likely also has the brains to look up the AMA in a magazine
ad, join, and get reprints with a legit number.  Secondly, if the AMA
sends the reprints to the registered address of a member, and someone else
tries to use your number, then at worst you'll get copies of a reprint
mailed to you.  Thirdly, if the lawyer has seen the article, chances are
he could as easily have a secretary copy the thing, or write up an original
brochure serving the same purpose.  Fourthly (or is that "forthwith"?),
if the article was written to discredit the guy encouraging lawsuits,
then how is the same article going to encourage someone to sue a
manufacturer?

Methinks you've heard the term "big brother" repeated once too often.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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