From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: Re: Let's Use Some Hindsight
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:47:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.004905.25305@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec20.234848.19354@beaver.cs.washington.edu> hasan@cs.washingto
>n.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>>Dear Mr. Baskar,
>>
>>Your research is commendable in the area of Muslim conquest of Sindh.
>>I hope you did not have to lose any sleep in your dedication and zeal, which
>>again is extraordinary.
>>
>>I cannot abide by your request for not to send a reply, as you have chosen the
>>open internet system as forum, rather than sending a private mail message.
>>
>>However, I will also not take too many lines in doing that. Mr. Baskar, you
>>provide Hindsight, which I see as Hind sight. Today, nations are led by
>>governments which are non-religious, no matter how much the religious zealots
>>scream, banter, and rave to the illeterate masses in the third world.
>>
>>Religious persecution, is not new to anyone. Christians persecuted Jews,
>>the KKK and others like them, here still believe in that, Muslims persecuted
>>Hindoos, Communists persecuted Christians, and the Hindoos (Brahmin vermin
>>still persecute the harijans and other inferior hindoos as we speak in a 
>>manner worse than the Nazis with an inverted sawastika). 
>>
>>Islam can only be spread from its quality of overpowering the heart and the
>>soul of the masses. People who are forced to convert only go back to what
>>ever they were doing, once the force/danger no longer exists.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Shams Hasan.
>>
>       Well, not in the case of islam. Tell me, is not it true that punish-
> ment for apostasy is death in Islam. ISLAM IS A ONE-WAY STREET. There is
> no coming back. Rushdie got death-sentence on this basis. It is so
> hypocritical of Islam. It spreads on conversions, but does not allow
> the reverse. Think what would have happened if other religions also
> punished conversion by death.
>
> Raja
> 

Shams is notorously famous for writing articles which have no logic.
In SCP he writes that he is proud to be a Pakistani even though his
family look like Iranis/Pathans (they achieved this by internal family
marriages).  I can't see the logic why handsome people (I assume that's
what he thinks or why would he stress on his Irani/Pathan background),
would be ashamed to be Pakistanis.
Bhaskar said that Islam was spread by force, to try to prove him
wrong he says KKK persecute people, Christians persecuted Muslims,
Muslims persecuted Hindus and Brahmins persecuted Harijans.  Dude
where is this leading?  He calls Brahmins vesrmins and lower class
Hindus, inferior Hindus.  Dude whose side are you on?  Or do
you hate all Hindus.  Dude how is a nazi with an inverted swastica
worser than a nazi with a right side up swastica?
Bhaskar has claimed with refrences that Hindus were converted by
force, which may or may not be true.  But if you want to argue
with him use some logical arguement with refrences.
This is a warning to all SCIians, if you do not want your children
to turn out like this Irani/Pathan, don't marry your cousins.

Manoj
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