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From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: kerala, eezham and Tamils, Was: Kerala -Excerpted Notes--Icarus.
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:30:38 GMT

In <Bu08yL.4E7@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:

>In article <1992Aug29.001036.21574@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>>   excerpted from a book: Marriage and Family in Kerala. [Puthenkulam 
>>   Joseph, 1977]
>>
>>For centuries Kerala enjoyed an isolation guaranteed by nature. Situated in
>>the south-western corner of India, she was far out of the way of the great 
>>migrations and wars which affected the destinies of India.
>>
>>The greatest possibility is that thE Kerala people are from the east coast.
>>Caldwell seems to argue from linguistics towards  this conclusion.
>>
>>It is possible that some of the immigrants Came from far off oceanic islands.
>>One of the traditions regarding the ezhavas was taht they came from 
>>Ezhathunadu, Ceylon.
>Tamil history regards 'cheras' existing from time immemorial. The famous
>kings being 'ILango' of 2nd Century AD who authored the great epic
>'maNimEgalai', and kulasEKaran (7th century ?) who authored 'thiru mozhi'
>a vaishnava text.

>K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca


iLangO wrote, "silappathikaaram" which mentions a lot about
keraLaa and ceylon. This epic is a very good refernce 
for people studying civilization that existed in 2 century
AD and also for researchers in music. kaanal vari chapter describes
in depth the music of tamils. The epic also says, Gajabaahu(kayavaahu-tamilized), the king of ceylon came to kerala when invited by chenkuttuvan-brother of iLangO and king
of Chera naadu, to consecrate kaNNagi as godess of "kaRpu" chastity. The temple
is in kerala, I believe. In ceylon, even the sinhaleese worship kaNNagi
as "pathinni theyyo". There has been great interaction of cultures
in keralaa and ceylon from sangam times. 

    There is truth about noninvasion of chera naadu. Also, greater
tamizh naadu upto vEngkadam-tirupathi escaped the mughal invasions.
The kings ruling these areas were strong.[ There is mention of
senkuttuvan defeating the aryas with the help of king
of magaadha on the banks of ganges.] Srirangam in tiruchi was
almost destroyed by the mughal invaders, I heard. But the mughals
were weakened a lot by the time they came down south. Hyder Ali
of hyderaabad-andhra planned to invade TN. He was defeated by
the british army-madras regiment(first army unit started by
english consisting of Indians). This will go in history as blessing in a sense 
that our southern temples were saved. But the british hegemony started
thereafter.

regards,

Kathiravan
From: molly@uga.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: ***Chalachitra Lookam***
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:56:45 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <l9qtuuINNibi@aludra.usc.edu> rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan) writes:
>...............................................................................
>	Name			Actors				Type
>...............................................................................
>
>   Godfather              Mukesh,Jadish,Kanaka         Comedy.	 
>                          Philomina,KPAC Lalitha       I donot think if
>    		          Innocent       	       it has been released on
>                                                       tape. 
>                   Directed by Siddique Lal.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Sandesam            Jayaram,Siddique,Srinivasan     Comedy
>                       Tilakan,Kaviyoor ponamma,       
>                       Mammu koya,Sankarady
>
>               Story,Screenpaly by Sreenivasan
>               Directed by Sathyan Anthikad
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Bharatham         Mohanlal,Lalu Alex, Nedumudi Venu    Drama.
>                    Thikkurisi, Oduvil Unnikrishnan      National award winner:
>                    Urvashi,Kavivoor Ponamma             Best actor Mohanlal
>                                                         Best singer Yesudas
>                                                     Best director Sibi Malayil
>     Excellent collection of songs. Singers include Dr.Balamurali Krishna.
>     Songs written by Kaithapuram
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Abimanyu           Mohanlal,Ganesh,Jagadish             Drama/Masala
>                    Urvashi.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subayatra          Jayaram,Parvathi,Jagadish            Drama.
>                    Innocent,KPAC Lalitha,Mamu Koya      
>             
>          Directed by Kamal
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Peace,
>
>-rajesh

Thanks.  Looking forward to more of Chalachithra Lokham.

MATR
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From: rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ***Chalachitra Lookam***
Date: 27 Aug 1992 17:48:30 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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...............................................................................
	Name			Actors				Type
...............................................................................

   Godfather              Mukesh,Jadish,Kanaka         Comedy.	 
                          Philomina,KPAC Lalitha       I donot think if
    		          Innocent       	       it has been released on
                                                       tape. 
                   Directed by Siddique Lal.
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   Sandesam            Jayaram,Siddique,Srinivasan     Comedy
                       Tilakan,Kaviyoor ponamma,       
                       Mammu koya,Sankarady

               Story,Screenpaly by Sreenivasan
               Directed by Sathyan Anthikad
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  Bharatham         Mohanlal,Lalu Alex, Nedumudi Venu    Drama.
                    Thikkurisi, Oduvil Unnikrishnan      National award winner:
                    Urvashi,Kavivoor Ponamma             Best actor Mohanlal
                                                         Best singer Yesudas
                                                     Best director Sibi Malayil
     Excellent collection of songs. Singers include Dr.Balamurali Krishna.
     Songs written by Kaithapuram
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 Abimanyu           Mohanlal,Ganesh,Jagadish             Drama/Masala
                    Urvashi.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Subayatra          Jayaram,Parvathi,Jagadish            Drama.
                    Innocent,KPAC Lalitha,Mamu Koya      
             
          Directed by Kamal
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Peace,

-rajesh
From: be952@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Alukal)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: When is ONAM ?.
Date: 3 Sep 1992 01:21:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be952@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Alukal)
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In a previous article, tittu@tittu.b23b.ingr.com (Tittu Mathew) says:

>
>	Does anybody out there know when onam is?. The malayalee association
>	out here in Huntsville, AL is celeberating onam on Sept 19th, but
>	I am sure it is not on that day.
>
	Thiru Onam is on September 9, Wednesday, according to
	"Kerala Sarkar" Calendar.
From: rajesh@skat.usc.edu (Rajesh)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ***Chalachitra Lookam***
Followup-To: Chitraguptan
Date: 1 Sep 1992 16:55:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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	Name			Actors				Type
...............................................................................
                          Mohanlal,Ganesh,Nedumudi           Based on the 
    Vandhanam             Sukumari,Janardhanan,Soman      English movie'Stake
                          Kuthiravattom Pappu             out' featuring 
                                                          Richard Dreyfuss.Good
                                                          movie.

             Directed by Priyadharsan. Music by Ousapachhan

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                         Mukesh,Jayaram,Sukumaran         Crime/Drama
   Marupuram             Urvashi,Ashokan,Jagathy           

            Directed by Viji Thampi
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                         Innocent,Mammukoya,Mukesh        Comedy
   Gajakesariyogam       Ganesh,Jagadish

           Directed by P.G.Vishwambaran
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                         Rahman,Tilakan,Jayaram           Drama...Stunning
   Moonaampakkam         Ganesh,....(dont remember)       performance by 
                                                          Thilakan.Excellent 
                                                          film
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peace

-rajesh
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From: aramanat@nyx.cs.du.edu (Red_Baron)
Subject: Re: Why are there no industries in Kerala ?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:23:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.232723.611@news.uiowa.edu> jeffray@icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeffray Jolly Chungath) writes:
>I think the problem is because we have a communist rule 
>every once in a while which can scare away any private 
>sector ideas no matter who stands behind them.
>
>Jeffray Chungath.

Gimme a break, dolt...
and think again...

-arul amanato...e :)
  
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From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: kerala, eezham and Tamils, Was: Kerala -Excerpted Notes--Icarus.
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:09:29 GMT

In article <Bu08yL.4E7@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.001036.21574@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>>
>>Gundert thinks that the term Kerala is teh Canarese dialetical form for
>>Chera. 
>>.    o o      signito ergo sum.              paul chemmanoor.                .
>
>To this one might add that 'kera' as well as 'elam' are tribes mentioned
>in the Old testament.
>
>Tamil history regards 'cheras' existing from time immemorial. The famous
>kings being 'ILango' of 2nd Century AD who authored the great epic
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>'maNimEgalai', and kulasEKaran (7th century ?) who authored 'thiru mozhi'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>a vaishnava text.
>
>K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca

    First I like to point out that Ilango did not write the great
 epic `maNimEgalai' but Chethalai Chathanar ( pron. Cheeththalaich
 Chaaththanaar ). It is well-known that `maNimegalai' is a Buddhist
 work while `chilappathikaaram' written by Ilango is a Jainist work.
 The principal characters of the latter work, Kovalan and Kannagi
 followed Jainism, as is noted in the same epic. Also, Ilango was not
 a Chera king. There is a widely believed myth that Ilango was the
 younger brother to Senguttuvan, both chera princes. The myth
 says that once an astrologer visited Chera court and predicted that
 only Ilango would become the next Chera king. Ilango was offended
 by this prediction and he chose to become a monk instead. He left
 the palace he lived and led a monk life outside. 
    A recent scholastic work `Ilangovadikal yaar?' [ Who is Ilango?] 
 by T.M.Chitambara Raghunadhan sheds a new light on Ilango's epic
 Chilappathikaaram. The author claims that Ilango was not a Chera
 prince who became a monk later but instead a merchant from Chozha
 kingdom. ( Chera, Chozha and Pandya were the three kingdoms in the
 early Tamilakam. ) 

   [ I have cross-posted this article to alt.culture.kerala also for
     pointing out a correction in an earlier posting there by K.S.]
                                                             - SP
                                                  sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu
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From: vpishara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Vinod M Pisharam)
Subject: Malayalam videos
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:46:06 GMT

I am new to the net and found to my surprise  very little information posted
about Malayalam movies available on videos here. In Columbus there are a couple
of Indian stores that regularly purchase and stock new titles as and when they
are available in this country.So the Malayalees out here are quite fortunate to
see most of the new movies.Believe me, folks back at home are surprised when I
tell them I have seen some of the new ones.Well here is a list of movies I saw
this Summer. If your local Indian stores dont carry these titles ask them to
get them for you.

  VASTHUHARA :  Mohan Lal, Neena Gupta, Padmini  Dir. Padmarajan
  SANDESAM :  Jayaram, Srinivasan, Thilagan, Kaviyoor Ponamma, Maadhu Sri
  AANAVAAL MOTHIRAM : Srinivasan
  IRRIKKU M.D. AGATHUNDU : Mukesh, Siddique, Jagadeesh, Saikumar
  KOODI KAITCHA:  Jayaram,Jagadeesh, Jagathy, Oorvashi.
  AHAM : Mohan Lal, Nedumudi Venu, Neena Gupta, Oorvashi, Ramya Krishnan.
  CHANJAATAM : Jayaram, Siddique, Oorvashi
  Bharatham : Mohan Lal, Nedumudi Venu, Murali, Lakshmi, Oorvashi DiR.Sibi 
                                                                      Malayil
  NETHIPATTAM: Srinivasan. Rekha, KaviyoorPonamma
  KAURAVAR: Mamooty, Thilagan, Murali, Vishnu Vardhanan, Anju
  SANDWANAM:Nedumudi Venu, Murali,Suresh Gopi,Jagathy, Meena, Rekha
  ARANGU: Thilagan, Sukumaran, SaiKumar, Ashokan, Geetha
  SATHYAPRTIGNA: Murali, Suresh Gopi, SaiKumar, Jagathy, Oorvashi, Geetha
  KAAICHAKKAPPURAM: Mukesh, Maamu Koya, Sreeja
  MAANYANMAAR : Mukesh, Jagathi, Jagadeesh,Srinivasan, Ramya Krishnan

  Well, thats it for now.Do let me know if you want more of this stuff.
                              HAPPY VIEWING.


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VINOD M PISHARAM,SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM, THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY, COLUMBUS.

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From: chintu@lion.ecn.purdue.edu (Chintu Abraham)
Subject: His Highness Abdulla
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
    
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:21:24 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: jeffray@icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeffray Jolly Chungath)
Subject: Re: Why are there no industries in Kerala ?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:27:23 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

I think the problem is because we have a communist rule 
every once in a while which can scare away any private 
sector ideas no matter who stands behind them.

Jeffray Chungath.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: chintu@lion.ecn.purdue.edu (Chintu Abraham)
Subject: His Highness Abdulla
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:26:28 GMT
From: tripunit@fortran.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V. Tripunitara)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Films ( follow-up to Chalachitra Lokam )
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:53:26 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

Perhaps I'll add a few movies to those listed in the latest Chalachitra
Lokam ( hope that these have not been commented on already ).

Vidhyarambham : stars the brilliant Srinivasan in a movie about some
villagers trying to save a local school. Though not in the same class as
Srinivasan's best movies ( such as Paavam Paavam Rajakumaran ), this movie
is certainly quite good.

Rajashilpi : Mohanlal seems to be obsessed with art. This is a movie replete
with dances by Bhanupriya & features Mohanlal as a sculptor longing for his
wife who has been dead for 18 years. Watchable if your are interested in
classical dances & other artsy stuff. Story is weak, but as usual, Mohanlal
is brilliant & Bhanupriya also has done a good job. With people like
Nedumudi Venu also in the cast, this movie is certainly above mediocrity.
( By all indications, Rajashilpi was not a success in the theatres ).

Dasaradham : One of the best movies Mohanlal has acted in ( & we all know
that there have been quite a few ). I think it won a National award or 2.
Directed by Sibi Malayil. This is a very original story and you cannot
afford to miss this movie.

Kuttaetan : Stars Mammooty & Saritha. Not a bad movie, but not a good one
either. Tilakan's talent is not visible in his role in this movie.

Kanalkaatu : Another Mamooty starrer. Again quite mediocre, but more
interesting than Kuttaetan.

Kattukuthira : A very good movie with Tilakan doing a fantastic job.
Though the story is quite banal, Tilakan's performance ( coupled with
some good acting by the others in the movie such as K. Ponnamma &
KPAC Lalitha ) makes the movie quite outstanding.

In conclusion, I have a question ( which I don't have the answer to ).
Hope one you can answer it for me. How many National awards did 'His
Highness Abdullah' win ?

Mahesh.
From: molly@uga.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Books about Kerala ?
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:26:05 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

I would like to get some books about kerala.  Any suggestions about the title
and author of some books would be greatly appreciated.

MART
From: indran@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Books about Kerala ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:45:31 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Aug25.202605.20819@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, molly@uga.edu writes:
> I would like to get some books about kerala.  Any suggestions about the title
> and author of some books would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> MART


Here are some about Kerala or from Kerala

Vararuchi's Children -Aspects of Kerala(1990); K. Govindan Kutty
Published by SG Wasani for Macmillian India Ltd. 
Macmillian India Press, Madaras 600041. India


Mahatyagi (Christ on the Cross) In seven languages
Sanskrit(K P Narayana Pishroti), Tamil C Yesudasan),
Hindi(Narayana Dev),English (B Hridayakumari) 
Kanada(M Rama) Bengali(S L Biswas) +MAlayalam.
Original is a Malayalam 'Khanda Kaviam' by Vidwan M. O Avara
about Christ on the Cross and his last message. 
published about fifty years ago. English Translation is by 
B Hridayakumari and it include Aswadanam (study ?) by 
Dr M Leelavati. Pages 32+260+70. Price RS 50.0

Kuttamattu Family and Sanskrit Literature
P Manoharan 
published by Kalanikatan Payyannur
page 284 Price RS 150

Keraleyatyuda Chritramanangal 
(Loose Translation  is something like Social and Cultural identity of 
Kerala: Historical view )  
Dr M. R Raghava Varryer 
Valathol Vidya Pheedam
Sukapuram. (Malapuram Dt ?) 
Pag 242 Rs 50

Upnishads in Shankara's own words
By Vidyavachaspati V Panoli
(Shankara's 'bhasiam' of 10 Upnishads Translated into English)
Volume 1: Contain Esham,Kanam,Kadham and Mandookim Upnishads
Avatarika by Justic V. R Krishna Iyer. 
Mathrubhoomi central book stall Trissur -21
Price Rs 170; 

'Doctor Foust' (Atta Katha) Adaptation of the Europian classic 
Dr. Foust' by 'Goytha (?)'  to KathaKali.
Prof A. Krishna Kimal
Sahitya Pravarthaka Sahakarana Sangham.
Rs 12


Sabdasagaram (Malayalam Malayalam Dictneory)
Current books Kotayam. Rs 375 Pages 3200.3 Vol


...ravi 
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From: fsbern8@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ambady Suresh  (Sverdrup))
Subject: Beaches to Visit..........
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 26 Aug 1992 09:54 EDT  

Hi Malayali Netters:
	It's that sweet time before the visit to India when dreams
feature many old friends you had forgotten  about.....Has anyone been to 
Cherthala beach ? I hear that this beach is relatively unspoiled and pristine
compared to Kovalam where the beach has been taken over by the 5 star hotel
there. Cheers !, Suresh.
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From: mmurali@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Murali Damodaran)
Subject: Onam
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:02:54 GMT

This year Onam is observed on 9th of September.



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Newsgroups: alt.culture.tamil,soc.culture.tamil
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: For Sthan [was Re: kadi]
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:24:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.124910.19150@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
> >PS: This posting serves two purposes. (i) Encourages "kadi"
> >   (ii) The original posting was confined to USA.Gives a chance for 
> >    people outside USA to enjoy the "kadi"
> 
> kadikaLukku veLiccham koduththa Affable ACT ai maRandhuvittAr.
> 
 Sthan, enakku oru chiru chantheham. From the Usenet charter:

 alt	Groups distributed by sites that choose to carry them.  Many 
        Usenet sites are not interested in these groups.

From this it is obvious,only some of the sites carry alt.culture.tamil.
I'm quite surprised to know your site supports ACT but not SCT.I'm 
curious to know how you are reading SCT.

Cheers,
Venkat
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