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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Barrier Town
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:31:50 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 20878

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > A few years ago we presented a program called barrier town.

This sounds a whole lot better than just taking a handful of people
and blindfolding them for five or ten minutes and seeing if they
could handle a super limited situation.  You want to show somebody
something, don't just give them a taste, throw them into it with
both feet, up to their proverbial eye teeth, make them live it,
whatever the situation is.

Sounds like a great plan--wonder if anyone in New York City has
done something like that in the lobby of a large building here.  I
love it!

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Hess)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Birmingham Pain Clinic Visit #4
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:53:29 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD

Index Number: 21040

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

In a missive of <Apr 03 18:23> Arthur Saus (1:376/72.160)
writes to Alan Hess:

 AS> with this lies in semantics.  There is a significant difference in the
 AS> patient who has "chronic pain" and the patient who had "acute
 AS> recurring pain" although this is not generally recognized by patients
 AS> and medical personnel who have not specifically trained in pain
 AS> management.  The true "chronic pain" patient is very likely to abuse a
 AS> narcotic and become addicted to it, while the narcotic does not
 AS> actually provide the pain relief the patient is seeking; ie the
 AS> narcotic is the wrong drug to treat the problem.

I have tried all sorts of medications in the attempt to control my
pain problems.  Narcotics, anti-convulsants, anti-depressants, and
I can't remember what else.  I never went above the levels I was
prescribed, since I want to keep what little control I have over my
life.  But, because of the "narcotics are addictive, so they're
bad" theory, I never got any until the pains had already been
building for six years.  At that point, the narcotics were
ineffective at low doses, and I didn't want to take real high
doses.  There was no sensible reason not to try narcotics early
on.

 AS> not addiction.  Again I believe we are disagreeing on semantice here
 AS> rather than the actual issue.

Could be.  *adh*

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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Survey
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 20915

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > On a related subject Steve, the blind folding thing and this survey
 > brings another point up.  I was accused the other day of not being
 > well adjusted because I said that I didn't like cafeterias,
 > especially those that have those islands where you go here for one
 > thing and over there for another and some where else for a drink and
 > then back yonder some where to pay. I made the mistake of sayibng
 > that as a totally blind person, I do not go to those places alone.

Then, Roy, I guess I'm about as unadjusted as you are, because I
don't go either!  We have a really excellent cafeteria where I
work, but I won't do it by myself because they're always moving
displays around and changing where the major food groups are
located--you know, coffee, desserts, soda, etc.--and it's a
horrendous process trying to find things especially in a crowd.

 > superblink was quickly on my case and I bet you don't have to guess
 > from what organization.

Don't get me started (ha ha ha), that's one of my biggest
complaints about that other nameless organization!  If I am what I
am and I act and otherwise comport myself like what I am, well,
ain't that tuff, man, but the fact is, I is what I is, and that
package comes with certain limitations.  I'm not about to knock
people over and make a fool of myself just to be Super Blink.

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: Christopher.Baker@f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Christopher Baker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Scientific American
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:48:48 GMT
Reply-To: Christopher.Baker@f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:374/14 - Rights On!, Titusville FL

Index Number: 21026

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

> offers any new research. It is interesting and I do believe

you've heard that neurological patterning theory before?

> To me phantom pain is not psychological, it is more physical. I guess

all pain is psychological and neurological. it may have physical
stimulus but ultimately, pain is a product of the brain. [grin]

> himself has written, and all come from a neurological position.

that's where most pain research properly belongs, IMHO.

> This article presents only one side of that picture.

it covered the old theories, as well, if that is what you mean by
the 'historical' value.

i'd sure be happy to give mine to somebody else, though. [grin]

TTFN.
Chris

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From: Doug.Parisian@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Parisian)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Double Talk
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: Doug.Parisian@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB

Index Number: 20955

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I have used litetalk, accent, artic, dectalk, and whatever was in
the old mariland total talk 150, bns and a few others.  In terms of
price, total flexibility, I have found that doubletalk and/or
litetalk from RC systems simply can't be beet.  Those other
synthesizers of course, each have their own unique characteristics
but as a total package, I defy anyone to come close to the RC
products.  Futther, combine this with ASAP and I believe you have
an unbeatable combination.  I wish I could sell you either a
Doubletalk or litetalk so that when you ran around screaming in
ecstacy, my name would go up in lights but I do not cdover your
area and will get no credit if you should choose either of these
synthesizers. sorry for the lousy typing/smelling but I am on line
and must keep moving.

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From: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Exception dictionaries
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21127

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 EB> If your screen reader supports an exception dictionary (or if
 EB> your synthesizer has a utility to support one), how are you
 EB> using it?

Eric,
    Although I'm not sure that this will be a popular position, I prefer
a speech exception dictionary that is interactive!  That is, it is
difficult enough for me to remember to add the words to the dictionary
after I have exited the application via a save command let alone
remember to add them after exiting the application that I was running
when I discovered their need!
     Actually, I have found that an exception dictionary becomes less
and less necessary as one becomes more familiar with their speech
program and synthesizer, but at the very beginning, I did find it quite
a usable option.  In particular, I found it quite easy to enter the
SoftVert dictionary menu when I was first starting out, add a word that
I found the PC-Vert synthesizer wasn't pronouncing properly, and if luck
was with me, remember to add it to the appropriate SV environment file
when I had returned to DOSS after exiting the application.
     As I became more and more familiar with the synthesizers I ran,
however, I found my use of the exception dictionary to decrease.  What I
use it for today is primarily the prounciation of common acronyms, such
as NFB and ACB, and since many of the text to speech drivers now handle
this on their own, or the screen access programs take care of it, I find
the exception dictionary even less important.   True, this has resulted
in things like me pronouncing names like "Kae" as "Kaa", rather than
"Kay" when I talk to people about BlinkTalk, but seriously, what's in a
name anyways?  Does a rose by any other name not smell just as sweet?

     Ok, the ideal dictionary option in a speech program would, for me,
be internal, meaning I wouldn't need to call up an editor to add a word,
it would be able to be added to from right within any application, it
would have a variable size adjustment, perhaps able to be determined on
the command line when one called up their speech program, it would have
the option to add the redefinition to all configurations or just the
currently active one, and it would have a warning message when one
exited the application such as, "Dictionary has been added to...Would
you like to add these changes to the configuration file or forget the
changes?".

     So then, can you add this to TinyTalk and still keep the memory use
under 30k?
                                                        Willie

... BlinkTalk, Commo and Silver in Pittsburgh!

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From: Jerry.Berrier@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Berrier)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: depression
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:07:45 GMT
Reply-To: Jerry.Berrier@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21112

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Yes, there are certainly lots of things he can do, but you said
something significant when you said that he gets bored easily if the job
does not suit him or seems to be beneath his talents.  It sounds like
his attitudes are the major part of his problems, and it sounds also
like he may be in dyre need of some professional counseling for
depression.

I have a friend who is totally blind who runs a business doing
interpreting and document translation for corporations, so she is
able to put her language skills to good use.  There are things to
be done, but you have to want to do them.  That desire is hard to
instill in a person who does not have it or has lost it.  I can
assure you of one thing, though, enabling him to continue to sit on
his butt will not help anyone.  It sounds like you are a strong
person but are about to let the weak drag you right down the sewer,
and that will not help anyone.

I went for a year once without working, and I began to give up
at that point, so I know that you fall into a state of
lethargy after a while, but it sounds like this guy needs some
vigorous help from a counselor or psychologist and a good kick
in the pants from you.

Good luck.

... WB3BBP, 79.9 Degrees West, 40.44 Degrees North.

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From: Daniel.Murphy@hnews.fidonet.org (Daniel Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: To tell, or not to tell...
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:31:48 GMT
Reply-To: Daniel.Murphy@hnews.fidonet.org
Organization: The Handicap News, Shelton CT (203) 337-1607

Index Number: 21170

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Dave.  Your idea really sounds interesting, and I really don't
have an actual answer for you, but I was just thinking of afew
problems you might encounter with people.  I expect that if you
tell them you are blind, they might wonder how it is that you can
train them in something that they perceive as totally visyal.  My
bos is a Mackintosh user, and I can't imagine his reaction if you,
or someone else told him that the person who would be training him
was blind.  I think it's because many sighted people associate
computers with screens.  After telling them that you were blind,
there would be that messie business of explaining that you use
Wordperfect all the time on your machine, then there would be the
question of how.  I would take it on an individual basis.  If the
person you are talking to seems to be reasonably intelidgent, and
they don't seem to frustrate too easily, then, well, go for it.
Good luck.

Dan

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From: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: phantom pain research
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:50:08 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 20829

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

I have read the article you quoted in your message. I was not that impressed.
I agree from a historical standpoint there is some degree on interest, but
it offers NO NEW REASEACH. Did you notice that all of the references he used
as resource were articles that Dr. Melzack, himself had written. Also, all of
is reference articles were all from psychological publications. I think most
amputees feel that physical environment has a greater effect on phantom pain
than do mental attitudes.

                      JimJ.

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From: Jeff.Dubois@p0.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Dubois)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Shopping
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:31:25 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff.Dubois@p0.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:163/266.0 - Vision, Ottawa ON

Index Number: 21168

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

The Grocery Store I use has a person available to assist in shopping
on Thursdays and Fridays.  Combine this with the free delivery they
offer, and I have no problems shopping at all.

That was the way I did it until Nikki decided to move in with me last
September, and since then we both do the shopping together.

What's funny is it takes longer now than it did before.  I think that's
just an expression of turning a woman loose shopping.  <grin>
Take care,
Jeff

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From: Betty.Mcbroom@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org (Betty Mcbroom)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: SIGN LANGUAGE
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:58:11 GMT
Reply-To: Betty.Mcbroom@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3615/27 - TN Deafness I N BBS, Knoxville TN

Index Number: 21054

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

LG>Please describe to me how in the world your friend manages to use sign
LG>language with one hand.  From what I have witnessed of sign language, most o
LG>the signs reqquire two hands.  Like "friend" -- you put one forefinger on to
LG>of the other forefinger.  Or "work" -- you put one fist on top of the other
LG>fist.  How could you do either of these one handed?

Hope you don't mind me jumping in, Laurel.   But I know signers
that have one-hand, or couple of fingers on both elbows (like those
Thalidimode babies), or hands with cut tendons because of a knife
attack, or paralysis on one side due to stroke or brain damage.
That hasn't stopped these people from using signs.  And they aren't
condemned by the other people we know.

If I'm holding something like a baby or a fragile vase, I can still
sign "friend" or  "work" with one hand and still be understood.  The
hand used is the dominant hand and it still would make the same
movements and parameters.

                            b

 ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ I BBS because no one can read my handwriting

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From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: New-fangled solution to ADA accessibility regs
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:11:49 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)

Index Number: 20933

At least one business which I patronize has come up with a really
"new, different and innovative" solution to serving clients who
may have mobility, and thus access, difficulties...

They do house calls!

Sez me,

W. K. (Bill) Gorman
From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Blind fold the sighted
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:14:28 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 21082

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > I agree with you, but i also believe that there are at least a
 > few people who "carry" themselves so well that one is
 > hardpressed to tell that they are blind. I believe SOME people
 > do have this characteristic (I aint one of 'em, and i see a
 > bit).

Well, that's what I was trying to point out in my prev msg, that if
you're totally blind, you're probably more easily detectable than
if you have some vision, even if it's not particularly useful
vision.  Also, as I think I said, them deflicted-looking eyes are a
d-e-a-d giveaway!!!

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: Robert.Thurlow@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: My Daughter and Special Olympics
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:51:25 GMT
Reply-To: Robert.Thurlow@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 20833

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

#>I have a beautiful daughter named Jessica who is 8 and has cerebal
#>palsy.  She is in a power chair almost all day and other than
#>various therapy sessions, she does not get a whole lot of exercise.

#>I have been monitoring your messages on various competions and
#>wonder what age Jessica could or should get involved.  An how
#>would I go about getting her started?  We live in Dallas, Tx.

I can give you my best Dallas reference - there is a disabled sports
association right here in Dallas.  I almost volunteered with them
rather than with the North Texas Amputee Supprot Group when I got
down here, but the NTASG got lucky :-)  Here's their vitals:

Disabled Sports Association of North Texas
3810 West Northwest Highway, Suite 205
Dallas, TX  75220
Phone (214) 352-4100

I don't know what programs they run for younger kids, exactly, but
I'm sure they'd be happy to hook you up with a coach or two.  I hope
this works out for Jessica - say hi for me!

Rob T

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jailhouse blinks
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:28:43 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21154

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello again.

Again, you and I agree.  As citizens, we should do our duty and, if we
mess up, we should do our time in the regular facilities, just as every
other citizen who breaks the law and gets caught.

Incidentally, one of the first blind adults I ever knew was a feller who
rented a house from my Grandmother.  He carried a cane and used it so
guess he was a positive role model.  He later was convicted and served
time for successfully planting and exploding a bomb in the washroom of a
department store in Portland, OR (just across the Columbia River from
here).  We called him the "blind bomber".  Whatever else may be said
about this as far as role-modeling goes, it did prove that the blind are
normal in every respect!

-Mike <K7UIJ>-
... ** Programmers get overlaid! **
___
 * CRR QWK 1.40 *

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From: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: lipreading term
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:56:53 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO

Index Number: 21050

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Just had another thought...the term 'orthophonist' is probably
equivalent to the American term, 'speech therapist.'  Other than
that, I never called my therapists by any other name.

In high school, I also had a special person called an 'itinerant
teacher.'  He/she would come to my school once a week at least and
meet with me to talk about how things were going and to help out if
I had problems.  They were a great help, especially when something
was going wrong in a class.  Even when everything was going well, we
would talk about other things, such as future plans like college.
They all said to aim high and to never sell myself short.

This itinerant teacher concept was something brand-new to me and I
haven't heard of this done elsewhere to date.

Karen

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From: Daniel.Murphy@hnews.fidonet.org (Daniel Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: To tell, or not to tell...
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:32:24 GMT
Reply-To: Daniel.Murphy@hnews.fidonet.org
Organization: The Handicap News, Shelton CT (203) 337-1607

Index Number: 21172

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Dave.  I really think you might have to go on a case by case
basis since it's really hard to know how a person will react.  From
what I can tell, most sighted persons associate computers with
video screens.  If you tell them you are blind, there is usually
that messy business of having to explain that you use a speech
program, a screen reader, and you use Wordperfect all the time on
your machine, and, and, and...  I think you know the rest.  Well,
anyway, good luck.

Dan

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From: Christopher.Baker@f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Christopher Baker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: phantom pain research
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:48:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: handicap.20825
Reply-To: Christopher.Baker@f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:374/14 - Rights On!, Titusville FL

Index Number: 20825

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

the April 1992 issue of Scientific American has an interesting
article on the phenomenon of phantom pain. [by Dr. Ronald Melzack;
pgs. 120-126]

it discusses old and new theories of neural transmissions and
postulates the source of the images is not the nerves of the
missing limbs or the neuromas that result after nerves are cut in
those limbs but that the brain is doing the transmitting as part of
a collective 'signature of self' that originates from a three tier
'neuromatrix'.

it also suggests that this 'neurosignature' is genetically encoded
in the brain since those born without limbs or losing them in early
childhood experience the same phantoms the later amputees do.

the article also has some information on spinal injury as a source
of phantom sensations.

the article is too detailed to do justice to it here but it is
fascinating. i would recommend it to anyone interested in this
process.

TTFN.
Chris

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