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From: roberts@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Michael Alan Roberts)
Subject: System/Finder 1.0
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:38:32 GMT

hansg@risken.vd.volvo.se (Hans Granqvist) writes:
 
>Subject sez it.
 
>Is it possible to get hold of the first versions of the system/finder
>for Macintosh? Or how about the first HFS-version? Anybody got a
>complete list of what has been added/changed in the various versions?
>And what models the will/won't run on?

For all you trivia buffs (and Mr. Granqvist), the first version of the
System software was not 1.0. It was, I believe, 0.98b1.

And if you find it, let us all know. I'd be interested in it as a
collector's item. Try looking on some 128K Macs.

BTW, is anyone interested in making available some of the real oldies
but goodies?? I have a copy of MS Word 1.0 and 1.05, as well as a copy
of Excel 1.00. I'm pretty sure that getting around the
thou-shalt-not-post-commercial-software rule would be a piece of cake,
since I doubt very much that companies like Microsoft and Claris would
withhold the rights to these old version of software.

I notice that DOS archive sites have a place for this kind of software,
why not us Mac folk??

Any thoughts??

Michael Roberts
roberts@ucunix.san.uc.edu
From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Contacting AlSoft
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 16:34:47 EST
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

I've got an old copy of AlSoft's DiskExpress II (2.0.7c) which has
finally crapped out on a new release of the Finder which I can't mention.
Does anyone know how to contact them?

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: orpheus@reed.edu (P. Hawthorne)
Subject: Steve Christensen: Thanks for doing SuperClock!
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:23:26 GMT

I've been using SuperClock for as long as I've owned Macs, and its always
kept a small footprint, done more than I ever wanted, and most importantly,
kept me from being too late. I and the girlfriends I have had over the last
couple of years thank you, Steve. :)

I just thought I ought to point that out, lest all of the hassles about the
new version get you down...

Theus (orpheus@reed.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dmbriggs@vela.acs.oakland.edu (BRIGGS DENNIS M)
Subject: Technical Log Support
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:13:42 GMT


I'm looking for software that supports my personal logbook system. While my
current system (big lab notebooks) works well for documentation, it's horrible
for retrieval. 

I doodle a lot in my logbooks -- lots of text, but also lots of
illustrations and equations, and circling text, margin notes, etc. I'd
like to preserve as much of that kind of freedom as possible, but add
the capability of *text search* to facilitate retrieval.

The closest I've seen so far to what I want is a good word processor
with a good draw program. But the cutting and pasting is not seamless
enough; I can't overlap the draw section with the text section; and I
can't draw sketches (don't ask me to sketch with a mouse!).

Got one suggestion for MathCad. Anybody got any ideas? Thanks.

--mikey 
P.S. Is this a good place to post stuff like this?
From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Getting Unix files onto Mac
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:16:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <1jpvq2INNgl@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> hodgesc@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Christopher Hodges) writes:
> 	  This is probably a real stupid question but I don't understand
> 	how it works.  I have FTP'ed some stuff(mac) to my Unix account
> 	and have no idea how to get the files onto the Mac. I am accessing
> 	the Unix machine via modem from a Mac. How do I get the FTP'ed
> 	files to copy to the MAC, and better yet, what do I do with them
> 	once I copy them over (Binhex? Unstuff???) I am using white knight
> 	for the modem.


Well, if you're connected via a modem, you'll need some sort of file
transfer protocol, like Xmodem or Kermit.  Poke around ftp.uu.net
and get a copy of one of the protocols that your Mac comm software
supports and install it on your Unix acct (you'll have to compile it,
more than likely).

Mail me if you need more info...


Kevin




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Univ. of Pennsylvania Language Analysis Center  |  
3700 Market St, Suite 202  Phila, PA 19104      |       "Vita Non Jerk"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: ?? on new macs and 7.1
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:38:59 GMT

aschked@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (David Aschkenasy) writes:
: Hello all.
: 	I ordered a IIvx in the begining of Jan. It won't arrive until the 
:     middle of Feb. I have two questions; hopefully someone can answer them.
: 
: 	    1. Whats this I here about new Macs on Feb. 10? Will they be faster,
: 	stronger, cooler, better, cheaper than my shiny new vx? I paid $2600
: 	for the vx 5/80 1M VRAM CD-ROM. This price was with an edu discount.
: 	Should I not take delivery on my vx?

My guess would be to go ahead and take delivery.  There will always be a 
"better" machine coming soon, and if you wait for the better machine you will
always be waiting.

: 
: 	2. Does system 7.1 cripple macs? should I instal 7.0.1 on my new mac?

No and NO.  I think the vx needs 7.1 and 7.0.x won't run on it.  For most US
users the upgrade to 7.1 is little more than a bug fix.

Greg.

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My words, not Motorola's.   * ______ *
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From: ar619@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jaime Villacorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: eDisk: Any clues how it works?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:55:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar619@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jaime Villacorte)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bobf@vlsi.ll.mit.edu (Bob Frankel) says:

>I just called Alysis and got the following info:
...
>3)  eDisk must be installed on an empty hard drive or cartridge.
...
>Incidentally, Stacker expects to be shipping in about 4-6 weeks.  Their
>specs are similar to the above (though I'm not sure about #1).  So,
>Stacker and eDisk sound functionally quite similar to the PC version
>of Stacker.

	From observing Stacker at the MacWorld expo, installation of their
program could be accomplished on a non-empty hard drive or cartridge. You
double-clicked on their application, chose a drive, say go, wait
a bit, and presto, a STACed disk. It seemed like a pretty simple,
but magical operation to me.

	Unfortunately, I missed the Alysis booth...err...actually walked right
by it, not realizing they too were selling a driver-level compression program.
-- 
					- jaime villacorte

					  ar619@Cleveland.freenet.edu  or
					  jaime@tcville.hac.com 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: harrym@netcom.com (Harry Myhre)
Subject: Re: Is MacTutor still alive?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:03:41 GMT

kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:

>Yes, MacTutor magazine is still in business, but they changed the
>magazine's name...to what, exactly, I can't remember.  But I did just see

 last time I checked the newstand near my house, they had something that looks
like MacTutor, but they've changed the title. It still *looks* like MacTutor
on the outside.
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone actually upgrade their own Powerbook 100?
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:02:55 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <9301271421.AA14995@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
> I know there are instructions for opening up a PowerBook 100 and installing
> memory and/or a new hard drive, but has anyone actually done this?  

I have.

> I was
> considering upping the RAM on mine from 4 to 8, and would rather not pay a
> dealer $50 for this if I can do it myself.  How difficult is this
> procedure?

As long as you have the proper tools, it isn't difficult. However, the way the
plastics go together isn't necessarily intuitive.

I had no problem, but I have years of experience taking things apart and 
putting them back together. If you are uneasy about this, you may be better
off springing $50 for a dealer or finding a more confident friend to do the
upgrade for you.

The 2MB upgrade was pretty easy. I've heard that the 6MB cards are a bit more
difficult.

-- 
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Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
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Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
From: dsc@sys.uea.ac.uk (Dave Cartwright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: MountImage 1.2b2
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:56:36 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: CMP, SYS, UEA, Norwich

Dear all,

	I've just found MountImage 1.2b2 by Steve Christenson - a fab idea ! (it
allows you to use DiskCopy images as if they were real disks).

	Slight problem, however; if I attempt to use an image located on a network
volume (ours is CAP/AUFS-based, not true AppleShare, dunno if that makes a
difference) it refuses to recognise the image.

	Bit of a shame that, because otherwise it's wonderful !

	Any comments would be most welcome (by EMail if possible please)

Dave C

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: HP 550 C printer -- color quality?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:57:36 GMT

Hi-
Has anyone tried to print scanned color photos on a HP 550 C printer?  I've  
never seen such a printout and find the demo setup rather suspicious.  The  
Bookstore here says that they're not allowed to hook up the demo model to a  
computer to print anything besides the built-in print demo.  What you do get  
with the demo printout is some solid color bar graphs and spots of pure  
colors.  I'm not too impressed by that.  What I really would like to see is  
the result of printing a scanned image of, say, a macaw parrot.  Unless their  
marketing people are just dumb, I suspect that the printer isn't capable of  
printing more than solid regions of color.

On the other hand, I saw the new IBM color printer, and they printed out a  
nice picture of a watermill in a forest scene.  I think they use the same  
Canon print engine as the NeXT color printer.

Comments?

-Avery
From: ttan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Charles Tan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Mac->PC Printer Output?
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:42:42 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University



I have a question about the printout quality of a Mac running Sys. 7
connected to a IBM-Compatible Laser Printer (HP II+, HP III+ emulation).

If I use Grappler II or SoftWorks PowerPrint, how smooth (or good?) 
will the output be with respect to an Apple (Quickdraw or Postscript)
printer? Will TrueType and Bitmapped fonts printout without the need
for HP Font catridges? How about graphics?

I read a few articles about the compatiblity using Grappler and
SoftWorks PowerPrint in MacWeek and MacWorld, but nothing was mentioned
about TrueType/Graphics outputs, and no sample printout was given.

I would appreciate any feedback/answers to the above questions I have.

Thanks.

Charles
From: lusol@Lehigh.EDU (Stephen O. Lidie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: creating a bootable System 7 disk
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:17:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University, Bethlehem PA

Is it possible to create a bootable disk for system 7 on an 800K or 1.4 M
floppy?  I tried copying the System file from install disk 1 and the Finder
from install disk 3 and booting from that, but, amazingly, after the happy Mac
face I get a divide by zero error from the Finder!!!

Or, the REAL question is:  after I mung my System file on the hard drive and
can't restart I've been forced to reinstall from the install disks which takes
5-10 minutes.  I'd rather boot from a floppy and simply replace the nad System
file with a good copy I keep around for just that purpose....

Thanks,

SOL
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Jensen_C@msm.cdx.mot.com
Subject: Printing to Postscript file
Organization: Motorola_Codex
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:42:08 GMT

Is there any way that I can get to the postscript output that is being sent to
a printer?  I want to save it as a file, ftp it over to my Unix machine and
print it from there.  That printer is much faster and does double sided
printing.  I'd like general solution that I could use with any/all
applications.  Is something like a psuedo printer available that just creates a
file of the postscript commands?  

The specific applications I'm using are Word 4.0, MacDraw II, and Frame.  The
frame stuff is easy, since I have Frame for Unix as well and can just send the
Frame file itself to my Unix machine and print from there.  Converting the Word
files to Frame does not produce satisfactory results either.

Any ideas? or is my approach wrong?

Thanks,
Carl Jensen
jensen_c@msm.cdx.mot.com
csj@codex.prds.cdx.mot.com
Motorola Codex
Canton, MA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sagen@techbook.com (Milton Sagen)
Subject: nslookup not finding applelink.apple.com
Keywords: nslookup, applelink, internet
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 220-0636
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:25:23 GMT

I've been trying to mail to applelink.apple.com but my messages keep
bouncing.  Also if I do "nslookup applelink.apple.com" nslookup returns
with "*** No address information is available for applelink.apple.com",
however nslookup does report an address for apple.com.  Is
applelink.apple.com down or what?
-- 
Milton E. Sagen                          sagen@techbook.COM
Software Engineer
Prometheus Products, Inc.                (503) 692-9600 (voice)
Tualatin, OR 97062                       (503) 691-1101 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Tom Thatcher)
Subject: AppleTalk diagnosing tools?
Reply-To: smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:24:54 GMT

I sort of oversee 6 macs and 3 laserwriters connected on Appletalk.
What tools are available to diagnose network faults?  Is there anything
from Apple?  I read something about using Inter*Poll, but I couldn't
find it on ftp.apple.com.

Also, how can I test Appletalk cables and connector boxes that I suspect
of being defective?

Thanks,
Tom Thatcher
smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu


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^ "A keyboard.  How quaint."                    ^  Tom Thatcher
^  Scotty, to a Mac Plus, in Star Trek IV       ^  University of Rochester
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: chaudoir@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bernard Chaudoir)
Subject: HELP! Dead Mac 512ke
Reply-To: a10ryc8@mp.cs.niu.edu
Organization: Northern Illinois University, DeKalb Illinois.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:39:30 GMT

This is a somewhat technical question that I need help with:

Early last year I purchased a used 512ke, with external 800k,
and an Imagewriter I. A few months later I use using it and
all of a sudden the screen went out and it produced a very
bad smell, comming from the cooling vents on top. I brought
it into the local Mac dealer the next day and they said that
it needed a 'power/sweep board' I blew 161.99 for the board
and $30 for .5 hours labor. Quite costly but I use the machine
to mainly call our mainframe, so memory and color, etc are not
neeeded, yet ;).

After I got it back, about a week later, the screen blanked out
again! I brought it back, and they said the tech who fixed it
did not adjust the voltage correctly. So they 'adjusted power
supply voltage level' and once again the mac was working.
however, following this last visit, I ocassionally got sad
mac's upon boot. All of these were ROM related, a few I wrote
down are: 0101C0, 010010, 010113. This only happened once in a
while, so I dealt with it. Now once again, about 4 1/2 months
later, it died AGAIN!!! The same thing, I was on and the screen
just went blank and nothing.

I have a surge pprotector, so I don't think it was a surge, spike,
etc...I can't afford to keep shelling money into this old
relic, however it does wonders for word processing and telecommunications


Anyone have any idea what to do? What is the warranty on my power
supply they replaced. I am consulting all of you before I 
bring it back to the shop ONCE AGAIN, so I know whats going
on.

THanks for any helpful information!!

Cheers,

Ric Chaudoir
From: wpoor@poorhouse.lexington.ma.us (E. Ward Poor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Special Font Character Question
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:08:42 EST
Organization: Poor Associates
Reply-To: wpoor@poorhouse.lexington.ma.us
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <25JAN199314422710@juliet.caltech.edu> (comp.sys.mac.misc), wcaw@juliet.caltech.edu (Wilisch, Wolf C. A.) writes:
_ Hi!
_ 
_ I am looking for a specific character, a double arrow, with the top half 
_ pointing in one direction, the bottom half in the other one.  It is a 
_ frequently used symbol in chemistry, but I haven't been able to find it 
_ anywhere.  I could create it as a drawing, but that's fairly inconvenient,
_ especially for our secretary.
_ Anyone seen a font that has something like it ?

Check out the Boston II font, which I got with my first copy of Microsoft
Works.  The font was created by:

Charles E. Maurer
31 Forsyth Avenue South
Hamilton, Ontario L8S 2A4
Canada

and is also available from BCSMac on their disk Fonts A.2.

->
<-   is an option-shift "1" in this font

Ward Poor      BCS*Mac Director of PD Software & CD-ROM Project Manager
               wpoor@poorhouse.lexington.ma.us
               wpoor@world.std.com
From: georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: FTPing large amounts of software (Q)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 18:03:07 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
Keywords: FTP, Mac

I'm planning to transfer a considerable amount of data (several MBs)
from an FTP archive to a Mac. Since no modem is available the actual
transfer must be done via MS-DOS disks.
Is there any UNIX (or perhaps MS-Dos) program available that allows building
an archive  for multiple files and then split up this archive into several
files that fit on a disk each? Of course I would need a program that exactly
reverses this process on the Mac once the files have been transferred there.

Any suggestion anyone? Or am I asking too much?
 
Thanks!
georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Contacting AlSoft
From: seth@physc1.byu.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:06:43 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <01050023.o6bt71@sable.cars.com>, shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly) writes:
> I've got an old copy of AlSoft's DiskExpress II (2.0.7c) which has
> finally crapped out on a new release of the Finder which I can't mention.
                           ^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
Hmmmm, isn't that how rumours get started? ;)
Seth






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> Connelly Automation Research & Services |   The only undefeated team
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: pillutla@mitchell.eng.ohio-state.edu (Srinivas Pillutla)
Subject: Emptying Trash
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:56:59 GMT

I have a Mac. SE/30 with System 7.0. So far, I have been having no
trouble at all but recently I've been having problems with emptying
the trash. For some unknown reason, I am unable to clear the contents
of the trash (even if I select "Empty Trash...") from the Special
Menu. Instead I get an error message saying "The item *** could not be
deleted because it contains items that are in use". Ok...so I quit all
applications and repeat the procedure again. Still the same message
appears. The surprising thing is that the items in the trash are all
empty folders. Why am I unable to clear the trash ?

Any help will greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,
Srinivas Pillutla

E-mail : srini+@osu.edu
         pillutla@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: What is a StyleWriter II?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 11:46:58 GMT

In article <C1ApE7.EKD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.055344.17402@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) writes:
>>
>>Both are new products, due out in February. 
>
>The StyleWriter II is already out. I saw it at MacWorld Expo.
>>
>>Does anybody know if there is an increase in printing speed? That's about
>>the only thing keeping me from buying one.
>>
>Yes - I saw it print; it is much faster than the original StylrWriter. The
>print quality, on the paper that was being used, was *barely distinguishable*
>from laser printer output.
>
>Tin.

I found my spec sheet for the SW II:

360 dpi in best and normal modes
180 dpi in draft mode
Grayscale printing with GrayShare(tm) software
Prints 1 ppm in Best mode
Prints 2 ppm in Normal and Draft mode
Holds 100 sheets of paper or 15 envelopes in the multi-purpose tray

Pretty much like the SW, otherwise.

Jay (=

P.S. Anybody want to buy a used ImageWriter II? email for details...

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