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From: cslac2216@bestsd.sdsu.edu (UNALOME TECHAMUANVIVIT (PIM))
Subject: Re: Demand for satellite dishes increases (from SEASIA-L)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: telecommunication, Thailand
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:01:00 GMT

In article <Brrzpv.Gu1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)             writes...> 
>~From:	NCSE01::YRJOLA       21-JUL-1992 09:32:55.03
>To:	yrjola
>CC:
>Subj:	   THAILAND: DEMAND FOR SATELLITE DISHES INCREASES
> 
> 
>          Media, 26 Jun 1992, P.8:-
>          According to Samart Satcom and Loxley Group,
>         the sales and interest from consumers in
>         Thailand for satellite dishes have risen. A 30%
>         rise was reported in May 1992. Potential buyers
>         were said to have been "spurred" by television
>         censorship.
> 

	The government still have the power over this media.  From my experience
working for an Advertising Agency on a satellite dish account, I was informed
that, upon purchasing a satellite dish, a person has to apply for an ownership
license at the Post nad Telegraph Department.  There are regulations governing
the ownership of such device. Those regulations are as followed;

     Persons who are elgible for applying for the license must be;
	1.employees of private incorporated company who hold the positions of 
Managing Director or Assistant Mangaing Director or equivalant.
	2 Civil Servants and members of the military and police with rating of
C5 up or equivalant.
	3. members of the Bangkok Municipal Councel, Provicial Representatives
and municial Councelors.
	4. residents of area that have difficulty receiving regular TV signals.
	5. those persons who are not designated in group 1-4 may still be 
apply for a license and will be considered in a case by case basis by the Post
and Telegraph Department.

	These regulations have never been taken seriously. It has been taken
for granted that anyone who apply for the license should not have any problem
doing so.  In most cases, the distributor would successfully apply for its 
customers.  

	Yet, considering the conspiracy of the government's and military's
attempt in controling the media during the May massacre, the presence of these
regulations might enable the government and the military to practice their
power over this new kind of media.  By upholding these regulations, they will
definitely be able to abstruct the growing market of satellite dish.  That is,
on the other hand, another way of censorship.  They cannot censor the foreign
media alright, but they can definitely control the exposure of those media in
Thailand.

	I don't know if I am being paranoid for thinking like this :) but I
am positive that we should take it into our consideration.  Having these 
regulations, in my opinion, is a threat to our freedom in our "Democratic"
country.

=============================

     Unalome
From: fstawit@ICOMP01.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: Me Too
Originator: daemon@Condor.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: Kent Gateway
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:42:45 GMT



Subject: Re: Me Too

In article <MMEYER.92Jul20142936@m2.dseg.ti.com> 
mmeyer@m2.dseg.ti.com (Mark Meyer) writes:

>> ......I wrote earlier......
>> When asked the same question, the wife of a friend of mine responded:
>> "Ur...I'm a housewife." Until then I thought it was only me who had
>> trouble with such (seeming) question.
>
>	Both of these answers would be appropriate for the question
>"WHAT are you doing?"

That was what exactly went through my mind. Since I didn't understand
the 'question' so I equated it to the next closest 'question' that I
could understand. :-)


Even now, after a long time in the USA, I still make a lot of 
repeated mistakes. I went to see an ophthalmologist and I would
ask him "How short were my eyes?" after all the "measurments" had
been done. :-) Or I would say "please 'close' (or 'open') the light."
Or 'close' or 'open' the TV.

The following event occurred in Thailand.

When we graduated from the military school the C-in-C 
(Commander in Chief) invited all of us to his house for a cocktail
party. At one point he went up the stage and gave a speech. At the
end of his speech he said: " Phom+Jeung-Khor+ #Address# Phuak"Khun
Wai^Na^Thii'Nii^Duay" "  (So, I would like to address you all...)
After a while, I was approached by a friend and was handed a slip
of paper. I asked "What's for?" The friend said "Well, didn't you
hear the C-in-C asked for our addresses?" At that point I understood
him completely that he misunderstood the C-in-C's speech. But I didn't
laugh at him at all, just quietly put the slip into my pocket. (I was 
a nice guy, hah? Well, his girl friend was with him otherwise I would
have blasted my ridicule at him. Now, this joke has become a constant
fixture of our class reunions.)

[Well, the guy gave it to me because I was the classhead of the
engineering section. Usually things like this will be handed to
the classhead first. ]

...Tawit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: mbuntan@epx.cis.umn.edu ()
Subject: Thai Election
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: soc.culture.thai
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:00:18 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: emaruchi@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: TOT signed one-million-phone deal
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:40:28 GMT


Wait a minute.  Are we going too far?  Are we going to be a hi-tech country or
NIC?  Before that, let me tell you some thing.  A friend of mine who was workingin a government agency told me some interesting stories.  Here are some examples        1. If he wanted to buy a screw driver cost more than 15 baht, he must
first get approval from the Ministry of Finance.

        2. If he bought a tape (for measuring length) cost 999 baht, that 's
fine, but if the tape cost 1001 baht, he must planed for the next year budget
and would be able to buy it in the next year.

        3. If he wanted to make a xerox one page, he must get approval from
the director of his Division (usually C 8 level).

        4. Some years ago, the roof of his office in Chiengmai was brown by
a strong wind.  Actually, two sheet of gavalnized steel were blown away.  A
committee from Bangkok were set up to carry out the investigation.  The travel
expenses and allowances for the committee to investigate were 6000 baht.
Finally, the committee concluded that it was an inevitable event caused by
nature, no one had to take responsibility, and the two galvalnized sheets were
allow to be replaced.  The replacement of the galvalnized sheets cost 25 baht.

        5. Five years ago, he designed a plan for repairing the roof of his
office.  After finish the construction for one year, one day a heavy storm
occured. The roof leaked and he was charged of careless working. Now his case
is still in the court and he must go to testify in the court of justice from
time to time.  I advised him to climb up there and glue it himself, then every
thing would be fine.

        6. Every time when he made a very correct bill, he could not reimburse
his money. For example, when he filled the gas 100 baht, the price of the gas
was 13.15 baht/liter.  But the readings on the meters, especially on the those
with digital display, were 7.6 liters and total 100 baht. He cannot reimberse
his money because 13.15*7.6 = 99.94 baht, not equal 100 baht, which showed that
the bill was incompleted.  He had to make a false bill by making it equal 7.7
liters.   I assure you that every gas station in the world, you cannot get the
multiplication of the unit price and the number of liters will be exactly equal
to the total amount of money read on the meter with digital display.

        Bunlar
From: ymey@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: To read news on Burmese women/AIDS
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:52:44 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

Hello again: Sorry my posting on Burmese women began with a blank screen. I was
trying to copy the file from Micro soft. The text begins after you hit another
return. My apology.  
Titiporn
From: Black_Swan@MTS.RPI.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: What's with chulkn.chula.ac.th ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:35:52 GMT
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X-To: soc.culture.thai.usenet

zeclipse@eng.umd.edu (Narin Suphasindhu) writes:
 
|z> 	o Is chulkn.chula.ac.th the first workstation fully connected to the Internet?
 
Looks like it is via va.alter.net. 
 
|z> 	o Seem to me that chulkn.chula.ac.th is physically located in Thailand:
|z> 	  Is that correct?
 
Indeed it is located in Thailand. 
 
|z> 	o What is the meaning of *.ac.* ?
 
TH is the root domain for Thailand and AC (Academic) is the second level
domain. 
 
|z> 	o What kind of services does chulkn.chula.ac.th offer ?
 
It is interesting to know. It looks like at the momemt most of the users
are staffs.  There will be Usenet service I think. Perhaps Somjai Boonsiri
at Chula can tell us more? 
 
|z> 	o Also, what does gateway.chula.ac.th do ? (A high-speed modem for dial-up???)
 
It is runnig Telebit Netblazer.
 
|z> 	o Is Chula the only university on ac.th ?
 
Perhaps at the moment yes since AIT uses ait.th. 
 
By the way Khun Nittida Nuansri in Australia may be able to tell 
us more.  I remember he gave a very good report on the status
of THAISARN a while back. In any case he has access to this
machine at Chula too.
 
 
Black Swan
Black_Swan@mts.rpi.edu
From: tun@QUARK.SFSU.EDU (Coban Tun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: information on next-door-neighbor - Burma
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:44:58 GMT

If anyone on this list is intested in receiving news on
Thailand's next-door neighbor, burma, Please let me know.

Ct
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: fstawit@ICOMP01.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Old Salad in a New Shampoo Bottle
Originator: daemon@Condor.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: Kent Gateway
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:25:14 GMT


Thank you and welcome back Khun Kamol, We hope you'll keep feeding all 
of us with GOOD news from Thailand once again. Thanks are also extended 
to Khuns  Yongyuth, Somsak, Thaweesak, Trin and others (if I forgot)
for keeping all of us informed during the May crisis and the aftermath.

Salad-bar politics in Thailand is so much fun. Where else on earth
can you erect a major political party literally overnight? Thailand
would definitely win her first gold medal if this kind of sport 
was included in the Olympic Game.

Mr. Chartichai had said before that he wanted his party to be the
most democratic party in Thailand. But if you look at the various
MPs that he had persuaded to join his new Salad-Bowl party, you
see the same old rotten lettuce, dehydrated carrot, and unripe
tomatoes. 

Why did he pick PuangChonChowThai  (PCCT) as the container of
this new hair-shampoo ? Well, Col. Phol Reungprasertwit (the only 
MP from this party) is
a big capitalist like him; they speak same language with same
mindset. Besides, instant cash is available to support the
upcoming campaign. He didn't tell anybody in the ChartThai Party
about the hair-shampoo strategy because he wanted it to look
realistic. A couple of blind fish in the party were biting frenziedly.

Don't tell me! I know that I'm entitled to my opinion :-)

...Tawit
From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Laws
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:45:30 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Inc.
In-reply-to: nilsuwan@cae.wisc.edu's message of 26 Jul 92 13:11:59 GMT


>It is not correct if someone kill you then another one kill that
>person and simply say that he or she must die for your dead. 
>If you allow this to happen, we will not be able to stop the
>killing since every one will have their own reasons to kill another.

Hear, hear!   The cycle of violence can't be ended through violence -
somebody somewhere in the cycle has to resist his or her strong
emotional desire for revenge.   I'm sad to report, though, that the
good old U.S. of A is turning back to violence as a solution to
violence - the executions have resumed in California, and police
brutality has become pretty standard treatment, at least against the
poor.   Sigh.

			       _MelloN_
--
mellon@ncd.com
Member, League for Programming Freedom | To learn how software patents could
cost you your right to program, contact the LPF - league@prep.ai.mit.edu
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: E-mail Network at Chula
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:35:56 GMT

According to a former computer science at Chula, the reason why the Thai
e-mail system connects to the world via Australia because the Australian
government had financially supported the program. Now the assistance term
ended. Concerning Singapore, this informant told me that the Singaporian
government has not had consistent policy about it. The Thai computer
scientists are afraid that such uncertainty might creat some problems in 
the future. Once the system was set up, the uncertainty might lead to 
a technological breakdown, he said. Besides, the cost charged by the
Singaporian gateway might not neccessarily be less than leasing a direct
line to the US. Anyone has better information, please share. Thanks.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: AIDS in Thailand
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:08:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <1992Jul24.062110.23593@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, nupairoj@cps.msu.edu (Natawut Nupairoj) writes:
> 
> A few days ago, I watched ABC news (around midnight).  They discussed
> about the AIDS conference at Amsterdam.  They also discussed about
> Thailand which is very notorious from the explosion of the AIDS.
> 
> Does anyone have any futher information about the situation of AIDS
> in Thailand ?

There was an article about this in a recent Newsweek. Very sad and
very scary. It seems to be a common practice in rural villages for
young girls (12-14 years old) to be either sold or kidnapped into
prostitution. Western (and also Japanese) tourists come to Thailand
on "sex tours" (why doesn't the Thai gov't stop this) and so many
of the girls get AIDS from these people. I guess now a high percentage
of the Bangkok prostitutes are HIV-positive.

--Richard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: News from Thailand (via an e-mail)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:44:30 GMT
Keywords: Thai politics
  

....Back to the politics, Sa-mak-kee-Tharm changed their name to
Therd-Tai and then merged with Chart-Thai. Chart-Chai ChunHaWan formed
a new party called Chart-Pat-Ta-Na with many old faces departed from
other parties. Pha-Lang-Tharm will submit over 200 candidates for
the coming election. Most predict that they will lost some seats in
Bangkok to PraChaThiPat.....

more news later....
From: sharma@rigel.cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Need travel tips
Keywords: Bangkok, hotels, weather, sightseeing
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:24:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5933
Followup-To: sharma@rigel.cs.pdx.edu

Hi, We are traveling early next month with our infant and we 
have a small stopover in Bangkok.  We reach Bangkok late at
night and have our next filght next afternoon.  
This is our first time through Thailand and we have a few questions:

1. Hotel names (decent, not too spendy, near the airport).
   Is it easy to get hotel rooms at this time of year?
   We don't have reservations.  We'll have to find something after
   reaching there.
2. Is it safe to take a cab around midnight?
   or most of the hotels have their own transportation?
3. How is the weather in early august in Bangkok?  
4. What is preferred - cash or traveler checks?  
   Is US dollar accepted?
5. Are there any short guided tours of the city?  Who to contact, etc.
   Are there any other must-see places that we can just cover by cab?
6. How is the traffic in general on a friday afternoon?
7. How far is the downtown area from the airport?
8. Anything else you can think of ....

Please send me your responses by email as I don't follow this group.
Thanks in advance.

-Vasudha Sharma
 sharma@rigel.cs.pdx.edu
From: nilsuwan@cae.wisc.edu (Sunchai Nilsuwankosit)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Help!
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:46:50 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

Excuse me for using this news net for a personal purpose
but I wonder if anyone here know the IP address of the
chemistry department at Texas A&M university. Please mail
the address to me directly if you have one. Thank you.

Sunchai Nilsuwankosit
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: E-mail Network at Chula
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:55:16 GMT
Keywords: Thailand's computer network

A friend from Chula wrote me the following message. Though he might 
have intended to privately inform me, his message has some information
about the e-mail network someone had asked in the s.c.t some time ago.
I hope this friend of mine would be mind if I quoted the part that
concerns this particular issue.


'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

....I forgot to tell you last time that the email access that I'm
using is an experimental project going on at the main library here
in Chula. If this project gets through, we will also have 
ftp (file transfer), news and BBS. Right now the connection is a
lease telephone line directly connected to somewhere at virginia.
The cost is high since we use lease line (due to the reliability
problem). The system load is light, hope that it will get heavier
in the future when it is put to work, so that the admin. will
realize the importance of having this world-wide information access....

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: TOT to list on stock exchange? (from SEASIA-L)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:40:59 GMT
Keywords: Thailand's telecommunication


Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Vmsmail-To: TNCLUS::SMTP%"seasia-l@msu.edu"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:55:20 +0400
From:         "NCSE01::YRJOLA"@TNCLUS.TELE.NOKIA.FI
Subject:      TH: TOT to list on stock exchange?
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu

~From:	NCSE01::YRJOLA       21-JUL-1992 09:32:11.00
To:	yrjola
CC:
Subj:	   THAILAND: TOT TO LIST ON STOCK EXCHANGE?


          Bangkok Post, 9 Jul 1992, p.15:-
          The Transport and Communications Minister of
         Thailand, Nukul Prachuabmoh, has agreed to the
         proposal to list the Telephone Organisation of
         Thailand (TOT) on the Stock Exchange of
         Thailand.
          However, the minister asserted that the
         listing of the TOT on the stock exchange would
         depend largely on the TOT board.
          A finance company may be hired to study the
         details of the listing.
From: nilsuwan@cae.wisc.edu (Sunchai Nilsuwankosit)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Laws
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:11:59 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

I hope that what Khun Tawit said is just a joke not his real
opinion. Something we need to accept is that once we need to 
wrote down the rule and ask everybody to follow. Surely,
there must be loop holes somewhere in what we think is complete.
The problem is that what is the suitable point to apply these rules.
Again, if you allow yourself to adjust these rules what is the
fairness in your decission. For example, American police cannot,
by the law, arrest anyone without telling him or her the rights.
If the polices fail to do these, no matter they are sure about his
or her crimes they must set him or her free and cannot arrest
him or her again with the old charges. 
Even with the democratic system, how can we complain if we get
the corrupt MP. Legally, we cannot just say that MP is bad and
we do not want him in the position, then stand the protest until
he or she resign. We need the evidence and we need to do it by the
rules. That is charging them to police and let the court decide
if he or she is guilty. (Remember that I did not say anything
that we can really depend on the justice system.)    	 
Unfortunately that these loop holes always benefit the bads and
harm the good guys. My father's client once was forced to resign
because he sold the very old boat which is too expensive to fix
and use that money to repair the office building. He did not ask
for the permission to sell because that boat could never been used
for many years and he thought that he did not do that for himself.
However, that boat was the government property and no matter it
was broken, you need the permission to repair, sell or even throw
it away. (To make it clear, my father is a lawyer and the reason
that make me study science is that I don't like the way the law
is applied.)

 
What I have said does not mean that we have to let it be like this.
It has to be fixed but not with our emotion or our reason only.
It is not correct if someone kill you then another one kill that
person and simply say that he or she must die for your dead. 
If you allow this to happen, we will not be able to stop the
killing since every one will have their own reasons to kill another.
From: nilsuwan@cae.wisc.edu (Sunchai Nilsuwankosit)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: My Ploy' Kai' story
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:15:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Jul21.091559.14492
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

This is very interesting. After Pow+ so many body, now we are going to
Pow+ ourself. OK. Let's embarass ourself.

This is my story. I was just arrived Madison for 1 or 2 months when I first
ordered my computer by mail. I needed to have a receipt together with the
computer not just a delivery document, so I asked a girl there to give
me the receipt. I said "May I have the "RE-CEP". Somehow she seem to not
understand what I said so I have to repeat what I said so many time before
she said "Oh! You need a "RE-CEET"? How can I know that "ei" now is just
"ee" and you don't need to pronounce "p" but just "t" in "receipt". 

One thing that I usually do when I do not understand what the American said
is that I just only smiled. Most of the time it works (I think) but sometimes
it frustrated them when they supposed to get the other responds from me.
My American friend said that now he belive Thailand is the land of smile.
This is not because we are so happy but because we do not know what else
to do but smile (Hey! Do not think this is an insult. For me I think this is
the good side of Thai habbit. We do not have to be upset if we have no way
out. Keep smiling means we always have some hopes.)

Sunchai Nilsuwankosit.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Demand for satellite dishes increases (from SEASIA-L)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:39:30 GMT
Keywords: telecommunication, Thailand


Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:55:53 +0400
From:         "NCSE01::YRJOLA"@TNCLUS.TELE.NOKIA.FI
Subject:      TH: Demand for satellite dishes increases
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu

~From:	NCSE01::YRJOLA       21-JUL-1992 09:32:55.03
To:	yrjola
CC:
Subj:	   THAILAND: DEMAND FOR SATELLITE DISHES INCREASES


          Media, 26 Jun 1992, P.8:-
          According to Samart Satcom and Loxley Group,
         the sales and interest from consumers in
         Thailand for satellite dishes have risen. A 30%
         rise was reported in May 1992. Potential buyers
         were said to have been "spurred" by television
         censorship.
          Distributors are currently waiting for a
         liberalisation policy from the Government to
         allow the free sales of satellite dishes.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai