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From: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch)
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Originator: jmcocker@c00472-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:31:31 GMT


In article <1992Jul27.123929.3041@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
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|>From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
|>Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
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|>Leigh-Anne writes:
|>  [Trash deleted]
|>["Live to flame"   FLAME-ON]
|>What a load of verbal diarrhea!  Some of you people out there are really due
|>for a mental oil change you know!  Here in the UK, we have had a National 
|>Health Service since just after the 2nd World War.  It works, people don't die
|>because they haven't got enough money to pay for treatment, and it doesn't make
|>the government any more protective than yours.  Hell, we have faster limits

Logical Asbestos_Suit_On
Asbestos_Suit_On = .TRUE.

	Nick, have you ever had to call upon this system you live with for
	specialized, emergency, life-or-death treatment?  Do you personally
	know anyone who has?  The reason I ask is that I have always heard
	(it is popular rumor on this side of the pond) that socialized
	health care reduces the level of quality available.  Supposedly this
	is true in Japan, and Great Britain.  I can't speak to this from
	a personal standpoint, so I'm asking an open question to those who
	might be able to post a brief but knowledgeable response.  Any takers?


|>than you have, even on very congested roads.  We have two-strokes, big ones,
|>no BHP limit, no compulsory lighting laws, etc. Etc. Etc.
|>
|>Give us a break Miss, look around at other examples before you mouth off your
|>paranoic right-wing trash and give the rest of you Americans a bad name.  It
|>is nice to have a little socialism in your country, it shows you care for each
|>other instead of this self, self, self stuff which makes Western-Civilisation
|>such a bad place to bring ones children up in.  If you think your government 
|>would abuse such a system, trash it and try voting in a government which is 
|>more caring and not only interested in trashing their opponents.
|>
|>[FLAME-OFf..]
|>
|>Just a thought....
|>
|>
|>Nick   DoD 1069           [Inhabitant of a Really-Nice-Country(tm)]
|>
|>42 ?
|>
|>"Just another brick....."
|>

Mitch
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: On Any Sunday video store version
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:52:53 -0500
Organization:  

Hi,

	I just recently checked out "On Any Sunday" from a video store,
the "presented by Yamaha" version.  This version has an intro clip of
an FZR dude out on a cruise, with classical music in the background.
Can anyone name the piece ?  Just curious...

   ("Hey Rob, why are you strapping a boom box on the back of your bike ?")

-- 
Robert H. Yang               | DoD # 0593
Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A.	     | '92 CBR600F2 "It hisses on snakes."
RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU | AMA # 642916

   "Society cannot change until persons change.  We have hope for the
    future because we have seen persons change." - from "I'm OK, You're OK"
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Info on '88 FZR750RS ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:44:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: wrgate.10376
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <9207242022.AA18448@elm.sdd.trw.com.asquared> dknight@ELM.SDD.TRW.COM (David B. Knight) writes:
>
>Someone here at work is selling an '88 Yamaha FZR750RS Limited Edition
>for $4,250.  He claims that only 200 were made.
>
    I don't know who tacked on the "Limited Edition" but the FZR750R is
the road-going version of the OW01 racebike.  Not many were imported,
and were mainly to meet the minimum for AMA superbike class.   Good
price if bike is OK.

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| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Fork problems and rust (Yamaha 650):  HELP sought
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:08:28 GMT

In article <XL4BoB2w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> bhendrix@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Brian Hendrix) writes:
 
>I solved this very problem by getting my forks re-chromed with some 
>mysterious stuff called "hard chrome" which is supposedly for chroming 
>hydraulic pistons or some such thing.

There's nothing mysterious about hard chrome plating.  It's
just chrome plated directly on the steel of the fork tubes.
Decorative chrome is plated on top of layers of nickel and
copper ("triple chrome plating").  It has plenty of uses
besides brake pistons.  For example, I had a set of rocker
arms re-chromed once after a lubrication disaster
(bought a basket-case 1973 Ducati that hadn't had the
oil pump gear fix).
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:00:40 GMT
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Jul23.153800.23573@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
|> I have never seen a one brand dealer except for 2 HD
|> dealers, Charlies Harleys in Dover NJ and Schlott HD
|> just outside of Stroudsburg PA. Every other one has
|> been a multiple. 

The local BMW dealer is BMW only and advertises as such in the Big Cities 
to the North.  He recently started offering service to other makes with
another name (to hide what's going on in the back room?).  The local Honda
shop folded a while back and I asked BMW Dave if he had looked into getting
a Honda franchise.  He said if he had an extra $X00,000 (I forget the X, 
maybe a 5?) that Honda wanted, he might, but he couldn't imagine it any time
soon.  The other local shops have Harley/Yahama, Kawasaki/Suzuki, and 
Norton/Ducati/Cagiva/Husky.

-- 

    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
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Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
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   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cbrooks@ms.uky.edu (Clayton Brooks)
Subject: Re: Mac and Jardine Exhausts - opinions
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:27:00 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Well, for my CB750 (1979), I picked the Mac over the Jardine 
because I was afraid the #2-#3 cyl. crossover would get in the 
way when I tried to change the oil filter.
Also, the Mac's were significantly cheaper.

Well, installing them required a very slight bending of #1 pipe.
Also, Honda factory mounting pieces, which I happened to have 
already and were of better quality, were used instead of Mac's.

I'm satisfied with them.
They're quiet enough...much more than the JCWhitney blasters I had.
The only complaint is the slight ringing sound that is heard at 
a certain rev and throttle opening (any takers on that one?)

IMHO, the only way I could have better pipes is to go factory stuff.
Well, you probably know why I didn't opt for that  :-$
-- 
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 722 POT U o'Ky    .__,-'    *    \   of the blue           cbrooks@ukma.bitnet
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: rec.motorcycles.harley
Keywords: don't break up guys ! STAY AS ONE !!!!
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:26:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

just when you thought you'd never hear a novel view on this tired old thread,
something simpleminded this way comes ...

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|       "I love your post.  Please don't stop."   -- Lissa Shoun           |
|                [disclaimer: this quote has been altered]                 |
|                                                                          |
|       "I've been doing OK lately with a hand pump."   -- Chuck Karish    |
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From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: tire pressure
Date: 29 Jul 1992 18:59:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Jul29.163954.11787@rchland.ibm.com> essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
>i used to run bias ply tires on my interceptor and i followed the "pressure after
>riding should be ~3 pounds more than cold pressure" rule.  now that i've got
>sportmaxes (radials), should i use the same equation?  i seem to recall someone
>saying radials want more pressure (?)....

 Radials work under very different rules than bias-plys. Tire pressure
 increases due to riding are irrelevant. You should consult the manufacturer
 of the tires (call Dunlop at: 1-800-776-8473) and ask them what your
 pressures should be given street compound and street riding. I believe
 that you will be told that you should be in the range of 30-32 psi.

 NB: lowering tire pressures is not a good idea on radials. It increases
 the size of the contact patch and the tire tread (rubber) runs cooler,
 not hotter. Thus, you'll be more inclined to slide the tire.

 Stef

--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs         me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
AMA/CCS #5, Regional Lightweight Supersport, Superbike, Grand Prix Champion
mail:  race-request@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM to join motorcycle roadracing list
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Oil Additive Scoop (or: see Ed Hackett's name in print)
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:45:59 GMT
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) / correctly states:

> Fact: Ed wasn't talking about synthetics, he was talking about additives,
> specifically "Slick-50". Fact: You should probably apologize for doing the
> net.thing and jumping to conclusions, then flaming (and a poor attempt at
> that, for shame!).

  Oops.  My official apology is offered.  I've spent all this time
thinking Slick-50 was a brand of oil (just like Golden Spectro).  I
stand educated and corrected.

  Sorry Ed, sorry net.

  BTW, if it seemed like a poor attempt at flaming it's because I don't
flame anyone.  I was simply stating facts about my experiences about
Golden Spectro oil vs other oils.  I much prefer to read posts that start
"My bike/oil/street/jacket/... is great because..." rather than
"Your bike/oil/street/jacket/... sucks because...".

  Of course, occasionally some ignorance shows through...

Just the facts sir,

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Organization: Bit Herders International
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:09:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.135830.26009@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
+(So, how fast can we mutate a thread and subject line anyways?)
+
+randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
+
+>  The "Fun Bike Center" here in San Diego sells Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, AND
+
+How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
+one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)

In Stratford, CT, there is an accessory shop called "Laurel & Harley".

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    Paul D. Blumstein, paulb@tti.com, DoD #36, KD6LAA, LS/MFT
         Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Golden Spectro = Vibration?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 18:25:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 2914@island.COM, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>
>DO NOT USE THE SYNTHETIC UNTIL THE ENGINE IS THOROUGHLY
>BROKEN IN under any circumstances. (For BMW K bikes, they say this is ~20k)

Huh?  ~20k?!?!

20 Kilometers ~= 12.5 miles, so I don't think that's what you meant.
20 Thousand Miles?!?!  Isn't that a little long to break in a
  motorcycle?  The Ninja's break-in is 600 miles.  Yes, I saw the word
  "thoroughly," but that's over 30 times the nominal break-in distance!
20 Thousand Kilometers ~= 12.5K miles.  Still way too long!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Mac and Jardine Exhausts - opinions
Organization: Bit Herders International
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.155300.17363@rchland.ibm.com> Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it.  writes:
+No experience with Jardine, but I got a set of 4 into 2 Mac slip-ons for
+Harvey.  They seem well made and they were pretty easy to install.  They
+sound pretty good - much better than the rusted-out original mufflers that
+were there.   

So you are saying: never buy original mufflers.

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	"David rode in Triumph throughout the land"
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: THANKS Ed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:25:52 GMT

I just wanted to one of the first of the RCRers to publicly thank Ed Green
and his wife Sandy for all the work they put into the RCR.

Jim Bessette
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Organization: Government Technology Services, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:44:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.131757.22215@rchland.ibm.com> Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it.  writes:

>so I stopped in time with hardly any trouble (I did slide a little on
>the wet road glop).  I parked in the space next to the car and asked
>the driver, "Did you see me at all??"  The answer?  A nonchalant, 
>"Nope . . ."  I started to say something else and realized I was alone.  
>No "Sorry 'bout that,"  or "Oops," or even, "It's my road, too, asshole".

Takes the wind out of your sail, doesn't it? I had some teeny bopper in a 
parking lot a couple of weeks ago. Did the cager left, bike screech right
in front of me. Cager BEHIND her shook his head in disbelief as I almost
got the rear up a bit (bit mall, this is more of a road than a parking lot).
I hunted her down, whipped up my visor, screamed "Hey honey, can't you see
a bright red bike with it's brights on?!?". Her answer was "Did I cut you
off?" (Duh.).

One thing to remember next time though: keep your helmet on. That's for if
cager decides it's time to wing one at you. :-).

>
>I'm proposing we start a sticker campaign like the one I read about 
>from a group of disabled people.  What they do is if someone without a 
>permit is found in a handicapped parking zone they slap a sticker that 
>says something like, "I Park Illegally in Handicap Parking Zones!" on 
>the car's bumper.

Nah, think about it. It'll just get the cagers pissed. And it WON'T change
their attitude. Just chew it up and swallow it.

>    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I thought about flaming you on general principles, but what the hell.

-- 
Rich Lawrence - "Stinger" - DoD#9630 '92 Seca II - Buckaroo Banzai lives!
Sysop/Hallucination: Full UseNet,Fido,Relay, 2GB+ IBM/Amiga  1-703-425-5824
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 HEY YOU! Are you going to the East Coast DoD thing or not? Read rec.moto!
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:07:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Jul31.170725.13074
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Jul30.172353.6078@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.144759.4192@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>  The bureaucracy involved with the HMO
>>system is far worse than anything I've heard from Canadians commenting
>>on their system.  National health care should be just that,
>>not a federal mandate for extortion payments to private corporations
>>who are in business to make a profit.
>
>Sounds like your HMO was not as good as either of the two that my wife
>and I have been in.  The only problem we ever had was with multiple
...
>
>Still, if you look at the current situation, you as an indivdual have
>two choices:
>
>(a) Make "extortion payments to private corporations who are in
>business to make a profit," in the hopes that they'll cover you
>(which as you've pointed out, is not certain);

No, that's not my point.  It's only extortion _if_ we go to a
universal insurance plan, wherein the federal government forces
us to buy insurance from private corporations, which is what was
proposed.

>Another thing, though--if the hospital knew that there was always an
>insurance company somewhere to dun for the bills, because insurance
>was universal, would they waste time and money trying to collect from
>individuals like you and me?  I think not.  They'd talk to the
>insurance company.

And if the insurance company floats the claims (like they do now),
then the health care provider will try to collect from anyone
who's standing by (like they do now).

>The hospital would also be able to treat any sort of accident injuries
>promptly and well without having to worry about whether they'd get
>paid (at least until after the emergency was past).  <-- gotta keep

And what do you do if someone hasn't paid for their insurance?

>Don't take me as advocating one particular system over all others;
>I'm just observing that as far as I can determine, the one we have
>here right now is one of the worst.

That's true.  However, requiring universal participation in the system
we have now would not help.  As long as the insurers and providers
are ultimately business people out to make a profit, we as a whole will
pay more for the benefits than they cost.

Motorcycling?  Oh, yeah.  Go ride!
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: umfehr06@ccu.umanitoba.ca (John Fehr)
Subject: FZ 750
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:10:28 GMT

Hi all!  I'm currently looking for a new bike (read faster) and
I've found an '86 FZ 750 for $2200 canadian.  Anyone know if this
is a good deal or not?  Any comments about the bike (handling, etc.)
would be greatly appreciated.

  John

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-  John Fehr                        -    DoD#505    -
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-  umfehr06@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca  -  A3000 kicks! -