HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jks3900@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Ricola throat drops -- usage limit
Reply-To: jks3900@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:17:05 GMT

Hi 
  Just thought you'd be intersted, my brother ate 3/4 of a bottle of 
Flintstone's vitamins when he was 2 and he spent several days in the hospital because of it.  I don't remember exactly, but I think they were the ones with 
the iron in them.  He's fine now (except he is very short still) 
							JKS
From: keri@maths.uwa.oz.au (Keri Watson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: sex, menstruation, endometriosis
Date: 5 Jan 1993 03:08:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: madvax.maths.uwa.oz.au

	What is 'retrograde menstruation'?
--
Keri Watson             Internet keri@maths.uwa.edu.au
Perth, WA               (09) 385 2227
Australia
From: jmg20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  911  James Gouldsbury)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re:
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:04:55 GMT
Reply-To: jmg20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: alt


    Does anyone know the effects of coming of Morphine if you were
    an addict of the drug and can it be administered by injection.
            Any info' would be appreciated,
            Thanks.
From: Robert.Lewy.MD@f9453.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Lewy MD)
Sender: Usenet@f-454.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: potassium
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 11:52:06 -0600

Potassium is measured in milliequivalents per milliliter (meq/ml)- a unit for
measuring ions derived from inorganic chemistry. Other things with the same
unitage are also ions - calcium, sodium, and bicarbonate. The normal range is
3.5 to 5.0 in most
labs. The is debate about whether high blood pressure is due to too much sodium
or  too little potassium (or neither).
As far as attention span, I am not familiar with data on this. Low "K"
(potassium) causes muscle cramping, irregular heart beats and other muscular
malfunctioning.
Good Luck
From: rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sea water consumption
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:16:15 GMT
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA

In article <1993Jan9.083821.24613@bradley.bradley.edu>
 guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) writes:
>fourteen years of her life (until 1979).  She tells me that her family
>and community routinely drank salt-water (I believe from the sea) rather

Perhaps they were drinking water at a place where fresh and sea water
mixed.  They could not have survived on sea water.
-- 
David Rind
rind@binoc.bih.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.skeptic,alt.psychology.personality
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.health.alternative
Subject: Re: Minoxidil and Hair loss
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:41:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan5.224129.24936
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1icocnINNckv@duca.hi.com> wright@duca.hi.com (David Wright) writes:
>>  A little over a year ago a friend started using minoxidil (Rogaine) to
>>prevent hair loss.  After she used it for close to a year, the treatment was
>>stopped. Now my friend is complaining of great hair loss.  Will minoxidil
>>cause hair loss if stopped and does this mean that it is a lifetime
>>commitment (and a fortune of money)?
>
>I haven't heard that Upjohn ever finished the clinical trials to
>determine whether Rogaine was of any use in preserving hair (as
>opposed to growing it back, which it sometimes does).  My guess, and
>it's just that, is that in your friend's case, the Rogaine was indeed
>preserving hair, and once she stopped, she quickly lost all the hair
>she would have lost (more slowly) over the previous year.  I've never
>heard of Rogaine *causing* hair loss, but if you use it, regrow some
>hair, and stop using it, they say that within a few months you'll lose
>what you regrew.

Topical minoxidil increases the time a hair follicle stays in the growth
phase (the period between the inactive resting stage and the time it
falls out).  Thus, the hair you have tends to stay in your scalp longer
and grows longer before it falls out.  In men with male pattern baldness,
this also gives fine vellus hairs time to mature into more normal-looking
hair.  Stopping the minoxidil treatment will cause the hair growth cycle to
return to normal (that is, what's normal for you); this is typically
accompanied by hair loss, as the end of the growth phase is reached, the
hairs will fall out.

Anyone deciding to use Rogaine should be prepared to spend $$$ for the long
haul.  Otherwise, it's a waste of money.  Its efficacy in male pattern
baldness is not very impressive.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: young@clpd.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Herbs for Menopause
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:03:26 GMT
Reply-To: young@clpd.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <C0DAJw.2v6@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:

[...]

>Why do people assume that if a drug is found in a plant it must
>be "all natural" and ipso facto harmless?
>
>I'm not going to put stuff in my body that nobody knows the probable
>effect of.

	With this in mind, permit me to re-post the following:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Article 23062 of sci.med:
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg,sci.med
From: young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young (x37176)]
Subject: Herbal Caution
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 92 12:18:54 GMT

   Quoted from SCIENCE NEWS: Vol. 142, No. 5, August 1, 1992.  Reproduced
   without permission:

	HERBAL PRODUCT LINKED TO HEPATITIS

	   "An herb used to combat obesity may cause a dangerous inflammation
	of the liver called hepatitis.
	    The herb is germander (Teucrium chamaedrys), a member of the
	mint family whose blossoms are used in teas, tonics, and herbal
	capsules.  Health food stores promote these products as harmless
	weight-loss methods.
	    Now, Dominique Larrey of the Saint-Eloi Hospital in Montpellier,
	France, and his colleagues describe seven cases of hepatitis associa-
	ted with germander capsules or germander tea.  All patients had used
	the herb for an average of nine weeks, in most cases to lose weight.
	The researchers could find no other cause of liver disease, such as
	alcohol abuse or viral infection.  Furthermore, the hepatitis
	vanished when the patients stopped taking germander products.  The
	researchers describe their findings in the July 15 ANNALS OF
	INTERNAL MEDICINE.
	    Scientists have yet to identify any chemical in germander that
	causes liver problems, says Ryan J. Huxtable, a pharmacologist at
	the University of Arizona in Tucson.  Huxtable wrote an editorial
	accompanying the research report.
	    Germander isn't the only herb known to cause liver disease,
	Huxtable adds.  He notes that comfrey, widely used as a digestive
	aid, can also cause hepatitis.  He believes cases of herbal poisoning
	are vastly underreported.  Illnesses caused by toxic herbs typically
	become chronic and thus can be difficult to recognize as herb-
	related.
	    Although herbs add spice to life, Huxtable recommends a cautious
	approach to herbal medicines or teas.  He advises against daily use
	of such products and warns parents not to give herbal preparations
	to infants or young children, who lack the enzymes needed to meta-
	bolize potentially toxic chemicals."



-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
From: rlp@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Ralph L. Place)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Cellular telephones and brain tumors
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:27:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

In article <1993Jan5.173232.4856@netcom.com>, kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio) writes:
> In article <DRAND.93Jan5111703@spinner.osf.org> 
> 	drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand) writes:
> 
> >The power output is in
> >the several watt range.  This is pretty low power.  The antenna is
> >outside the vehicle,  usually at the rear, with the antenna as high
> >as possible.  This reduces exposure as well.
> 
> You must not have read the post -- it refers to the hand-held variety
> of cellular phone -- which has a max. power output of 1.3 W   The very
> reason for the reduced power output (from the 3  Watt max. of the non-
> handheld variety) was because of the evidence that supports a causal
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> link between the devices and brain tumors. 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is the info I want to see.  What is the source of the evidence?  Can
you give a reference??

R. Place
Dept of CS
BSU
Muncie, IN 47306

rlp@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
From: hrubin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Who should be liable  Was: Re: Breast Implant Info Needed
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:37:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <726458356.AA00523@f-454.fidonet.org> Robert.Lewy.MD@f9453.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Lewy MD) writes:
>Start with Cronin et al, in Transactions of the 3rd Intnational Congress of
>Plastic abd Reconstructive Surgery.
>(Excerpta Medica 1964:41)- the original article
>Then, Human Adjuvant Disease: A review of the literature: Plastic Reconstr Sur
>1984; 78:104-114.Then,
>Safety of Breast Implants Questioned, The New York Times- Tuesday, Sept 17,
>1991

>Should doctors really be personally accountable? I see these folks all the time
>(the patients, that is) and while they are
>miserable, and some recent suits have been VERY large and in favor of the
>patient, they have been against the
>manufacturer. No doctor can really be knowlegeable about this kind of
>biochemistry research, but if the makers have
>withheld data, thats another story.
>Good Luck

Whoever withholds known information, and only those, should be liable.  For
most patients, the doctor is the one who must translate the biochemistry;
it is the patient who must have the opportunity to make an INFORMED decision.
If the doctor withholds information provided by the manufacturer, the doctor
SHOULD be liable if this information would have changed the decision.  If the
manufacturer or vendor withholds the information, the liability rests there.

Together with supplying the information to the patient, the actual risks
should be supplied.  If a government minion even approves the statement
that something is safe, without indicating the actual risks, THAT person
is morally responsible, and should be legally responsible.  This applies
equally to physicians; all physicians should be aware that if they ever
say that something is safe they are sticking their necks out.  There are
no guarantees provided by Nature.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: ruegg@med.unc.edu (Robert G. Ruegg)
Subject: Re: Ritalin Side Effects (years later)
Keywords: obsessive-compulsive disorder
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:19:22 GMT


There seems to be a familial association between attention
deficit-hyperactivity disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder. Persons
with the latter disorder describe "obsessions" or preoccupations with
certain numbers or words or ideas or rituals which they recognize as
nonsensical, but which nevertheless are anxiety provoking to resist and
comfortable to succumb to. This can impair other functioning when severe,
but can also be an innocuous idiosyncracy. If the symptyoms cause
problems, behavioral treatment and medication can help. Sometimes the
symptoms can impair memory function and attention by simple preoccupation
and distraction. There can also be associated symptoms of pathological
carefulness, slowness and indecision.  

Stimulants like ritalin in high doses can also produce stereotyped
behaviors, but I doubt if this is the cause of the symptoms you describe.

Well, bye. Hope this helps

Bob (ruegg@med.unc.edu)
From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Cellular telephones and brain tumors
Summary: some professional opinions
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:28:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Ok, since I work on cellular phones, I asked some other engineers
with hardware backgrounds about this.  First off, we generally call
our RFs microwaves, but in Europe there are some other systems in
the 450 MHz range.  The other engineers pretty much agreed that
yes, RF can be harmful at certain levels.  The first mobile phones
were 10 watts and there was concern about it, so they lowered it to
3 watts.

They assured me that walkmans and boomboxes do *not* emit RF; they
just emit sound waves.  Portable cellular phones are .6 watts and
the bag phones can be 3 watts or less.  For best reception, the 3
watts are preferable.  (I'm in the process of getting my parents
set up with a cellular phone for safety purposes since they're
elderly.)

They thought the .6 close to the ear would be about the same or
worse than the 3 watts in the back seat.  Any metal between the
radio/antenna and you would absorb most of the RF.

Then I thought to ask about us folks with several cell sites and
numerous phones right in our labs, and they said they'd thought
about that too.  Due to my work, I doubt that I should worry about
a single phone in my car!

One electrical engineer pointed out that there are probably worse
RF hazards in electric blankets and from toasters.  Another
engineer added power lines as well.
-- 
Krista Anderson, krista@ihlpf.att.com  or  ihlpf!krista@att.att.com
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Illinois, USA
     To be sung to the next ex who calls me:   "...this is my life;
go ahead with your own life; leave me alone!"   - Billy Joel
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:49:32 GMT

In article <-wrr!tr@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu writes:
>With that lead-in, I can't resist being the first to mention
>the article in the latest New England Journal that shows that
>obese people who profess to be eating <1200 Cal/day diets
>in fact eat far more than they report, enough to account
>for their inability to lose weight. They also exercise some
>50% less than reported.

I have a couple of quibbles with that study.  First of all, it only involved
10 people.  If you want to play conflicting studies, there was a study
some years ago of women who had plateaued on a diet in which they were
kept in a carefully controlled environment and all intake and output
measured.  Of the women in the study, some (less than half, but I don't recall
the numbers) did resume weight loss on the diet, suggesting that they had 
been underreporting their intake.  The rest, however, continued to remain 
incapable of further weight loss and 2 even gained weight.

That's a minor point - one can always play the "my study is better than
your study" game.

Also, the people studied were ones who failed to lose weight while following
the prescribed diet.  This is pretty rare - most people will lose weight.
It's maintenance that's the issue.  Where I think people get confused about
set-point theory is that they forget it has two componenets.  One is 
possible metabolic slowdown.  The other, though, is increased food intake.
In other words, hunger increases in response to deprivation.  This has been
observed in numerous studies, ranging from the work of Ancel Keys during
WWII to more recent times, and is also consistent with the experience of
every chronic dieter I know.  Binge eating is very rare among people who have
never dieted.

A more serious concern about the recent study to do with interpretation.  
I heard an interview with the researchers involved in which they were trying
to be careful not to suggest a character flaw but instead came away sounding
like the subjects just never registered how much they were eating.  It's
actually pretty difficult to accurately measure your intake - calorie
counts on various foods are not precise, scales are not precise, etc..
A nutritionist shadowing you would be doing well to come within 300 calories
of a correct number.  

I'm not dismissing the study out of hand - it's an interesting area of
research.  But I do think that it's very preliminary and subject to
significant misinterpration.  In particular, the whole issue of why the
underreporting occurred has really not been approached in any systematic
way but is instead an area of speculation.  (To be fair, the researchers
admitted this.)

Miriam Nadel
Xref: sparky sci.med:23395 talk.politics.medicine:466
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
Subject: Re: Reliability in medicine and engineering  (was: ... incomes)
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:12:09 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Dec24.170009.3000@cnsvax.uwec.edu> nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye) writes:
> 
>I share your concern about the loss of thinkers in medicine.  The
>average GPA of applicants to medical school has fallen almost every year
>for over a decade.  This of course doesn't mean that we aren't getting
>many good people, but some that would have been great physicians are
>choosing other careers.  

Over the past 20 years that I have been in medicine, I have
noticed a steady decline in the quality of those selecting the
profession.  This is a very worrisome trend.  It is sure to
get worse before it gets better.

Before computers can significantly aid us in routine cases,
advances in computer technology are needed such that the
computer can acquire the data directly without the physician
having to enter it.  We are probably 10 years away from that,
at least.
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks  N3JXP      | "I have given you an argument; I am not obliged
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  to supply you with an understanding." -S.Johnson
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rel@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hip Pain Advice Required
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:26:01 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


I have been running for some time and have had numerous injuries associated
with running (shin splints, knee problems) but last week I was doing my last
training for a local triathalon when during the run (about 8km) my hip was
hurting. There was a sharp pain on or around the top of my right the thigh bone
, this
pain was quite bad the next day (stiffening up?) but went away by the following
day, I didn't do any more running, biking or swimming untill yesterdays tri and
at about the 5km mark the pain came back. I have no pain biking when the hip is
sore but I have never ever had this injury before.

The current shoes I am using have not coused the problem before.

Any ideas what it might be and how to prevent it happening on a regular basis?

Any comment welcomed...

Thanx in advance...


Rob.
From: fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Need some info on diabetes and other diseases
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:56:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

In article <1993Jan4.190121.2761@cis.uab.edu> sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan) writes:
>In article <17965@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec26.200710.2458@panix.com> andrewh@panix.com (Andrew Huie) writes:
>>Injection is the only method, since the stomach digests insulin.  The
>>insulin comes in some long acting varieties.  Best results seem
>>to be obtain with more frequent injections.  Getting too much
>>insulin is quite dangerous unless the person can take in glucose
>>(orange juice will usually do).  

>Is an implant style delivery possible?  [obvious objection: volume?]
>
>Failing that - is anyone working on a permanent implant site for
>injections?  Or, are the repeated syringe sticks simply not a problem?

This is an area of very active research.  The fundamental problem is that
the insulin level in blood needs to fluctuate in response to conditions:
more insulin after a meal, depending on the quantity and type of
carbohydrates.  One proposal uses an implanted electomechanical pump;
it has a rubber membrane just under the abdominal skin, for refilling
by injection, and it is programmed from outside by an inductive link.
This reduces the number of needle sticks quite a bit.  Other people
are working on methods of sensing blood sugar to control a pump; still
others work on transplanting the Islets of Langerhans, or just the
insulin-producing cells in the same.
-- 
Mark A. Fulk			University of Rochester
Computer Science Department	fulk@cs.rochester.edu
From: Doug.Platt@f595.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Platt)
Sender: Usenet@f-454.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Deodorants Harmful?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 19:29:42 -0600

This may not have direct bearing on the subject, but I cannot use any
deodorant containing aluminum.  Most brands contain aluminum chlorhydrate.
I've found VERY few brands that don't have some form of aluminum in them.
If I use them, I start itching and break out in a red rash.
 
 

From: Robert.Lewy.MD@f9453.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Lewy MD)
Sender: Usenet@f-454.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Nicotine Withdrawal Help Needed
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 11:48:06 -0600

I agree- nicotine is stored and depleted slowly. The crunch is more like 3-6
weeks, and thats just the physical part, not the
mental part.
Nicoderm patches are really very good and much better than the gum.
Good Luck

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Physician's Incomes
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 18:28:21 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <51745@seismo.CSS.GOV> rrb@corona.CSS.GOV (Robert Blandford) writes:
>
>
>Subject: Re: Physician's Incomes
>
>In article <17956@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>>In article <=thr35c@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>>
>>>In the venerable words of someone, "Tough shit, son".  Your personal
>>>financial situation is of no concern to your prospective patients and 
>>>should certainly not be of concern to those who now set reimbursement 
>>>rates.
>>
>>So you advocate only those with very rich daddies going to medical
>>school?  The average Joe could never do it without hocking his ass.
>
>
>In the recent Consumer Reports series on health care they plotted
>the median US wage, the median doctor's salary, and the median specialists
>salary from 1970 to present.  The median US wage was flat, the doctor's
>salary had increased by a factor of 3 and the specialist's salary by
>a factor of 10.
>
Since the above discussion was concerned with the effect of
training expenses on physicians' charges and incomes, did
the CR series also plot out medical school tuition increases
over time, relative to inflation? I know that my tuition doubled
during my 4 yr in medical school (from $4800 to $9600). If
my salary went up like that, I could be making "average physician"
wages in no time!

Brian