HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Article appended to the previous one during feed on V6.1b5
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:21:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

  After I have installed ANUNEWS V6.1b5 I started getting complains that quite
often articles get appended one to the other. I found that in some articles
the byte count (at the #! rnews command) is too big, causing the feeding
process to append the next article to it (skiping its #!rnews command).
  In the meantime I disabled the count and check for each line whether it
starts with #! rnews.
  Have anyone seen this behaviour also? If not, look for it...

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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Does the News NNTP client require privledge?
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:18:40 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In <1992Nov12.153117.486@hhcs.gov.au>, makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin) writes:
> Does the version of News running solely as a NNTP client require
> SYSPRV and SYSLCK.

It does't have to have either privelege, although if you want to
access any configuration files in NEWS_MANAGER, you will need to make
them world readable. One example might be if you want a
NEWS_POST.DEFAULTS or NEWSRC.TEMPLATE file.
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: What are CLASSES?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:28:23 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Nov5.145353.1@sara.cc.utu.fi>, tisalli@sara.cc.utu.fi writes:
> What are exactly CLASSES in NEWS ? How do I create and use them ?

Classes are ways to group newsgroups together. For example, if you
want to see all the local newsgroups at your site, you can do:

NEWS> DIR/ALL/CLASS=$LOCAL

For more information, see HELP ADD ENTRY in NEWS.
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From: ip_boss@degsyd.syd.deg.csiro.au (Jack Churchill)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: NEWS config problem/misunderstanding
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:44:27 +1000
Organization: CSIRO, Exploration Geoscience

In article <1992Nov4.122429.163@degsyd.syd.deg.csiro.au>, ip_boss@degsyd.syd.deg.csiro.au (Jack Churchill) writes:
> I'm a bit confused.  According to the FAQ list, to avoid sending
> everything back to the feeder site the system name in NEWS.SYS has to
> match what my feed system puts in the Path: header, which I have.  I use
> the NX flag and nntp_xmit/ihave method of sending articles.  After NEWS
> has added the batch files (sent from the feeder sight) to the local
> newsgroups, the ids of the articles end up in the COLLECT.IDS file.

Problem found.   The path header in the articles is case sensitive.  My
feed use mixed lower/upper case and so NEWS tries to match this with the
lower case path in NEWS.SYS (NEWS only converts the node entry to lower
case).  So I have modified the relevant code in NEWSDIST/path_match to
convert the path to lower case.  I hope this doesn't upset other things
in NEWS. Say so if it can or does. Also, I have very little experience
with the C language (unfortunately) do if it can be done better
elsewhere in NEWS, please say so.  I thought of converting the path
header to lower case earlier in the code but decided against that to
keep the case the same all the way through to the next site once I start
feeding.  The relevant fixed routine is in NEWSDIST.C:

/*
 *  path_match
 *
 *  Determine if the incoming net item has been seen on this node
 *  already - check the path value
 */

path_match(path,news_node)
  char *path,
       *news_node;
{
#if DIST_PATH_CHECK
  char match_node[NODE_SIZE];
  char lpath[NODE_SIZE];

  strcpy(lpath,path);
  lower_case(lpath);
  sprintf(match_node,"*!%s!*",news_node);
  if (wild_match(lpath,match_node)) return(1);
  *(match_node+1) = ' ';
  if (wild_match(lpath,match_node)) return(1);
  if (wild_match(lpath,match_node+2)) return(1);
  return(0);
#else
  return(0);
#endif
}

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From: 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Speed up RESTRICTED newsgroups?!?
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:16:57 GMT
Organization: Widget Enterprises

Okay... we've just started setting up several RESTRICTED newsgroups for
particular classes and departments, giving the professor SUPERVISOR priv
so that we can be relieved of the burden of mainting the access list.

However, is there a way to speed up the process of looking through all of
the ACCESS.NEWS files?  It takes the average joe user 5 to 7 minutes just
to get into news because the files have to be searched. (And this is on a
VAX 6620 with 256 MB of memory!)  And then when the professor issues the
SET SUPERVISE ON command it's another 5 to 7 minutes.

My _real_ queation is, _why_ are the ACCESS.NEWS files sequential text
files?  Wouldn't it be _much_ faster to use indexed files with a 12-character
string (username) as the key, and a second byte-length field which holds the
access mask (SUPERVISE, WRITE, etc.)?

Are there any existing patches to take care of this?  Is there a reason why
I shouldn't attempt a hack myself to do this?  (BTW, we're running VMS NEWS -
V6.0-3)

Thanx for your time...
Matt Stum
VAX Systech
Ball State University

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From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: News not forwarding articles!
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:27:10 EST
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <1992Nov12.071256.4690@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes:
> The version of NEWS that shipped with DECUS UUCP (6.1a4, I believe) has stopped
> forward news from my news feed to my down stream sites.  This started when I
> added items to the magdalen entry in my news.sys file.  News originating on my
> system IS properly distributed, news originating from my news feed (UUNET) is
> NOT properly distributed.  Is there a known problem with the sizes of news.sys
> entries?  I'm including an RNEWS log file and my news.sys in their entirity to
> help debugging this.  I went looking for the sources of 6.1 on the US site, but
> couldn't find them.  Are they available from the Austrialia site?
> 

Well, it turns out the disk had filled up and news simply wasn't able to create
any articles on the output disk.  Fine, but there SHOULD be some sort of
message to that effect in the RNEWS logs.  Any chance at getting notifications
of errors during article creation/insertion?

I'm not 100% sure that this is the case as I'm still waiting for my news feed
from UUNET to start this morning, but the disk full SHOULD be the problem.
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From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: News not forwarding articles!
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:10:53 EST
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <1992Nov12.071256.4690@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes:
> This started when I
> added items to the magdalen entry in my news.sys file.  
> 

I misspoke myself, the problem began when I added acornswi (at least the last
date for which forwarding occurred coincides with the addition of acornswi). 
Forwarding was happening before acornswi was added and doesn't occur after. 
I'm going to pull out acornswi and see what happens.
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Newgroup/rmgroup
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:51:32 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In <1992Nov6.145247.1129@dct.ac.uk>, ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
> Apologies if I'm missing something glaringly obvious but...
> How do I issue newgroup/rmgroup messages withing ANU News?

NEWS> POST/CONTROL="newgroup group.name"
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From: tisalli@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: What are CLASSES?
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:52:50 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland


Hi everybody !

What are exactly CLASSES in NEWS ? How do I create and use them ?


Timo Sallinen
Medical physics
University of Turku
Finland
From: leesw@logica.co.uk
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: add file/nonetfeed
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:25:32 GMT

Why does ADD FILE/NONETFEED not add articles to a MailList group ?

I set up a few MailList groups which I made networked, because I might
feed them somewhere one day, but set up the batch processor with
/nonetfeed because none of them are fed at the moment, and I thought it
would save a bit of CPU.  I had to go back to the code to work out why
articles were being rejected.  I'm sure there is a good reason, and I'm
keen to configure my MailList group as well as possible, which is sort 
of why I'm asking.

William
 
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From: del@GIANT.INTRANET.COM (G. Del Merritt)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: How can I rename a newsgroup?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:51:05 GMT
Reply-To: "G. Del Merritt" <del@GIANT.INTRANET.COM>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-VMS-Mail-To: uucp%"ANU-NEWS@VM1.NoDak.EDU"
X-VMS-Mail-CC: DEL

I have a bunch of _local_ newsgroups that we use for completely
internal purposes.  For a variety of reasons (some good, some not so
good), it has been decided that we'll be renaming newsgroups en masse.
 
The form of the rename is fairly simple:
 
        local.client.xxx.maint -> local.client.xxx.prodsup
 
Where ".xxx." is replaced by 40+ different client names.  What I'd
_like_ to do is to rename the ".maint" newsgroups in such a way that
a) I preserve timestamps and original poster information and b) folk
don't have to go through and SKIP information they've already seen.
 
I've considered renaming each directory, and then stealthily modifying
everyone's NEWSRC (we're all on one big, homogeneous cluster ;-).  Is
there a BETTER way?  An EASIER way?  BOTH?  And has anyone done this?
 
I briefly considered NEWS.ALIASES, but since these are all local, I
don't think that that will help me at all.
 
Thanks.
 
Del Merritt     del@IntraNet.com        ccavax!giant!del
IntraNet, Inc., 255 Washington Street, Newton, MA  02158
Voice: 617-527-7020; FAX: 617-527-6779
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Looking for some kind person(s) to take over ANU NEWS maintenance
From: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Date: 13 Nov 1992 08:21:09 +1100
Reply-To: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

All,
 
Its  come  to  that  point  where I am making no useful progress with ANU NEWS
software. I'd like to decommission the VAX here (already the  VAX  C  PAK  has
expired so right now I have no C compiler) pretty soon.
 
I'm  interested  in  hearing  from  any person (or working group) who would be
prepared to look after the code from here on.
 
(I've  been  working on the code for more years than I'd care to admit. on and
off, and its certainly with some reluctance that I've reached  the  conclusion
that  I  simply  do not have the time to put in the additional bits and pieces
that would make the system truly useful. It has  been  fun  working  with  the
community  of people who are on this mailing list - hopefully there is someone
else out there who would be interested in continuing the work.)
 
To roughly quote Douglas Adams: "so long, and thanks for all the fish"  :-)
 
Geoff
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: SOLVED: News not forwarding articles!
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:03:51 EST
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

Well, I finally found the problem.  One of the operators had mistakenly used an
obsolete "personalized" copy of our account creation package that created a
news.distribution file.  Unfortunately this distribution file had garbage in it
preventing the distributions from occurring.  Thanks for your patience and
help.  My apologies for the use of the bandwidth.

Dick Munroe
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Trumpet, ANU-News not working
From: Dolan@bible.acu.edu (Tom Dolan)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:49:20 GMT
Organization: ACU Biblical Studies

Does anyone else use Trumpet (Dos NNTP client utilizing TCP/IP) to post to 
the NNTP server part of ANU-News 6.0-3?

When my Trumpet client posts a message it gets sent to other sites i have 
NNTP with but NOT the sites I MAIL batch messages to.  All other posts go to 
the nntp sites and batch mail sites just fine.

Anyone else seen this?

Tom Dolan      Dolan@Acuvax.acu.edu
Systems Manager
College of Biblical Studies
Abilene Christian Universtiy
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Newgroup/rmgroup
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:52:47 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Apologies if I'm missing something glaringly obvious but...
How do I issue newgroup/rmgroup messages withing ANU News?
I want to set up a few regional groups and would prefer something
neater than writing it directly to the batch news files by hand.

If the answer is I do have to do it by hand has anyone written a little
utility to handle the automation outside of News?

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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
From: cctr127@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Jason Haar)
Subject: NEWS_STOP and nntp
Reply-To: j.haar@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:34:17 GMT


Hi,

Under ANU-NEWS v6.0-3, the NEWS_STOP logical only works when you are
running NEWS on the VAX - once you run it in client-mode, it is no longer
used.

Is that the way it was intended? Even now that we've moved our NEWS system
over to C-news, I'd still like to use the NEWS_STOP concept as it allows
me to tell the VAX users when C-News is down - currently they have to just
sit there and wait for the timeout :-(

BTW: I currently get around this by defining NEWS as a .COM file - but then
all the qualifiers to NEWS don't work.

 --

Cheers

Jason Haar, Network Consultant
From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Cannot access item text
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:47:35 GMT
Organization: Beckman Instruments

On November 7 my ANU-news server added a LARGE (hundreds) number of news item
headers which, when attempting to access, get the error

...cannot access item text

ANU won't even let me look at the headers.  How can this happen?  In the past,
we've occasionally gotten these, but ignored them as too minor to be a problem,
this time our nn clients took a lot of grief.  It seems that the NNTP server
for anu should be returning an nntp error 423 (425?  I forget) but instead
returns a 430, and the nn implementation used on our Apollo's hangs on that
error.

Does anyone know what causes this, and better yet, what can be done from the
anu side to prevent it?  ANU 6.0-3, VMS 5.5, MultiNet 3.1
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From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Need mailing-list to newsgroup gateway
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:53:27 GMT
Organization: Beckman Instruments

I have a user who would like to gateway (unidirectionally) a mailing list into
a local newsgroup on our ANU server.  Could someone point me to the directions
how to do this (I got them once before, about a year ago, but never needed them
and discarded :-( ).

THanks
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: RE: Does the News NNTP client require privledge?
From: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Date: 13 Nov 1992 08:23:07 +1100
Reply-To: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

> Does the version of News running solely as a NNTP client require
> SYSPRV and SYSLCK.
 
no
 
Geoff
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: News not forwarding articles!
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:42:55 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In <1992Nov12.071256.4690@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes:
>The version of NEWS that shipped with DECUS UUCP (6.1a4, I believe) has stopped
>forward news from my news feed to my down stream sites.  This started when I
>added items to the magdalen entry in my news.sys file.  News originating on my
>system IS properly distributed, news originating from my news feed (UUNET) is
>NOT properly distributed.  Is there a known problem with the sizes of news.sys
>entries?

I have NEWS.SYS file entryies that are a LOT larger than anything you
have here(40+ lines), and they seem to be working OK.  You might try
using the SHOW SYS command to see what NEWS thinks the entry actually
looks like.  What do you mean by "NOT properly distributed"? Do the
article get put in the NEWS.BATCH files? If you delete the magdalen
entry, do things start working again? Does moving the magdalen entry
around in the NEWS.SYS file make any difference?
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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Does the News NNTP client require privledge?
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:31:17 +1100
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services


Does the version of News running solely as a NNTP client require
SYSPRV and SYSLCK.  From a bit of playing around and a scan of
the sources it doesn't seem so and I'd rather not install the
images with privledge if I don't have to, however I'm not much of
a C programmer so I'd like to make sure before I commit.

Thanks,
Carl.

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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: acttimes.c?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:38:00 GMT
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

I'm  looking for a copy of the acttimes program to use with B news and rn
4.4. I've checked ftp.uu.net, but if it's there, it's hiding quite well. Any
pointers would be appreciated.

chuq

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From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: News reader for DVX available (beta)
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:32:13 GMT
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]

[ Article crossposted from comp.os.msdos.desqview ]
[ Author was Sean True (seant@ratsys.com) ]
[ Posted on Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:59:58 GMT ]

I have a preliminary port of TIN, a threaded net news reader, running under
DVX. There are no known! major bugs, and I am using it to post this message.
Note: this is a character mode application, not an X app ...

FEATURES:
    A more-or-less complete port of Iain Lea's TIN, with light DVX
extensions.
    Editor, print, and mail programs are invoked in separate DOS boxes.
	

REQUIREMENTS:
    DVX with Network manager installed and working
    Access to NNTP server.

LIMITATIONS:
    80x25 character window only.
    NNTP only (can't read news from disk hierarchy, this could change ...)
    Indexing is slo-o-w on DOS, Iain's NNTP index retrieval is supported
 but untested.
    Source isn't available (yet) ... need to check it with Iain firs
    Outbound mail is currently limited to FTP software's SMTP program.
 A plug-in replacement would not be hard to write.
    Documentation for DOS version is non-existent. Numerous filename
 changes were necessary (.index is not a good file name under DOS...)

FYI:
    Port took about 2 person days, postly in getting the NNTP 
interface to work. 
    Ported to MSC 6.0, in .EXP format (16-bit). Very few 16 vs. 32 bit
issues encountered.

AVAILABILITY:
    Contact me by mail if you are interested. I'd like to find 10
beta sites, preferably current TIN users. If enough people are
interested I'll try to arrange a download site. Otherwise I'll
be happy to mail it ...
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