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From: chopper@gumbytsg.tandem.com (Michael Chop)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: A really good vegitarian resturstant in SJ
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:52:10 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

Keywords: 

Check out the white Lotus in downtown san jose.  I've had the most interesting 
vegitarian Vietnamese food there.  The menu is a bit confusing however, because the menu items have meats on it, but all the foods are made from tofu's, egplants, and other interesting substitutions.  For example, my date and I had the BBQ pork in a clay pot that was a wonderful egplant in a semi-sweet soy sauce.  DELECIOUS!!!

Try it out, you won't be disappointed.  It's just above market, round the corner
from the post office.

michael...
From: ed@weir.pa.dec.com (Ed Gould)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Corcord Restaurants?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:26:54 GMT
Reply-To: ed@pa.dec.com
Distribution: ba,la
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab, Palo Alto

> Actually, there are some good restaurants in Pgh.

Perhaps, but the poster was asking about Pittsburg, California, not
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.  Hence the question about Concord.  Note, too,
the lack of trailing "h" on the California name.

Ed Gould	  ed@pa.dec.com		Digital Equipment Corporation
+1 415 688 1309	  Network Systems Lab	505 Hamilton Ave, Palo Alto, CA  94301

"I'll fight them as a woman, not a lady.  I'll fight them as an engineer."
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: doom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner)
Subject: Re: SF places to eat: North Beach and near Golden Gate Park?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:09:25 GMT

linda@gratton.net.com (Linda Hill) writes:
>In the discussions regarding Eritrean/Ethiopian restaurants I've never
>seen Masawa on Haight St. in SF mentioned.  This is the only place of
>that type that my husband and I have tried and, since we like it, I was
>wondering how it compares to the others.  

I go to Masawa pretty frequently.  I'd say it's just as good
as "The Blue Nile" in Berkeley (a place everyone in Palo
Alto seems to have been to).  

It's also at least as good as the African food I make some
times (Try the _New Africa News Cookbook_, it's excellent.).


Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jql@cypress.com (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Subject: Re: Best South Bay Restaurant (continental)
Reply-To: jql@cypress.com.UUCP (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:36:25 GMT

>In article <62522@cup.portal.com>,
>ISW@cup.portal.com (Isaac S Wingfield) writes:
>>My SO has a significant birthday coming up, and we usually celebrate those
>>with nice-to-very nice dinners. I'd appreciate suggestions for a no-holds-
>>barred, pull-out-the-stops, merely-fabulous-is-not-good-enough, cost-is-no-
>>object continental style restaurant for dinner. Someplace below Palo Alto
>>preferred, French or Italian is fine, nouvelle California need not apply.

Emile's on third street (SJ) is wonderful, and I like Les Saisons at the
Fairmont too.  I don't know how they stack up the Chez T.J., though.

The *best* restaurant I've ever been to is at Domain Chandon
in Yountville.  Except for the location, it meets your criteria
perfectly! :)

 


-- 
Julie Lewis                                    jql@cypress.com
Boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no
choreography, and the dancers hit each other.
From: petolino@joe.Eng.Sun.COM (Joe Petolino)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Italian Ices?
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:38:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: joe

>Does anyone know where to buy Italian Ices in the bay area?

'Italian Ices', if I'm guessing right, is an East-coast term - a typical
example is 'lemon ice', basically sweetened lemonade frozen in an ice cream
freezer.  Yes, you can get it in the Bay Area, but you have to call it by
its proper yuppie name, buy it in a yuppie store, and pay yuppie prices.

Bravo Fono, in the Stanford Mall, makes the best gelato and granita (sp?)
I've ever had.  Much better than the chains like Gelato Classico.  Expensive,
though ($1.75 for a tiny cup).  I think the granita is what you're looking
for - made with fresh fruit, no milk or cream.  My favorite there, though, is
the nocciolla gelato - very rich ice cream made with toasted hazelnuts.

-Joe
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: sdf@well.sf.ca.us (Saul Feldman)
Subject: Re: SF places to eat: North Beach and near Golden Gate Park?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:38:43 GMT

In <14i5gnINN1r0@agate.berkeley.edu> bedk@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Brian E.D. Kingsbury) writes:

>My sister's coming in for a visit later this week, and I am looking for
>places to take her for meals in San Francisco.  I'm especially interested
>in places within walking distance of Golden Gate Park---we're expecting to
>spend the better part of a day there.  Also, any recommendations for
>North Beach Italian restaurants? 

>Post or email answers---I'll summarize them all.

>Thanks,

>Brian Kingsbury          bedk@icsi.berkeley.edu
I live a block from Golden Gate Park and can recommend the following:

Stoyanoff's (Greek food - 9th Ave near Lincoln)
La Creme (French - Irving between 24th & 25th)

For coffee or dessert, Tart to Tart (Irving between 9th & 7th)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Gilroy Garlic Festival Review
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:47:59 GMT

-
     Since it was recommended here, I'd like to piss and moan about the
Garlic Train to the festival.  We took it down Sunday, and I wasn't a
happy camper.  Including admission, Bass' fee and tax, the train from San
Jose cost a whopping $36.50!!!!

     We were over an hour late arriving at the festival, and since we had
to catch the same train back, that was time lost.  The return trip back
was only twenty minutes late; I should be grateful.  At least there was
almost no waiting for the shuttle buses between the train depot and the
fair.

     I ran into a friend who lives in San Jose.  She took an hour to drive
to the fair.  The train was slower, more expensive, and less convenient.

     In short, I think the Garlic Train is a waste of time and money.  If
you want to support the sponsers (the Golden Gate Railroad Museuam, I
believe), simply can't stand waiting in traffic, or just want to do the
environmentally correct thing, then go ahead and take the train.  I don't
think it's worth the time and money.

							George

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Gilroy Garlic Festival
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:07:08 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.234513.29068@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:

Hi Brad,  it was a pleasure meeting you on the 4th.

|What does one do at the festival?

Eat, drink, eat,  listen to music, eat, look at/buy crafts, eat, drink and 
mostly sweat.  

| Where does one go?

If you're looking for directions I can tell give an alternate route that avoids
most of the traffic, and the traffic to the garlic festival can be horrendous.

|  Where is the best food?

If you like garlic (of course you do or you wouldn't be going) there are a
lot of good booths.  I had a plate of linguini that I was getting "chunks"
of garlic in every bite.  The escargot booth is good if your into that.  The
shrimp should not be missed.  If your adventurous try the garlic ice cream.
>-- 
>Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366


-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Polish restaurants?
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:08:19 GMT
Organization: I is a writur

ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae) writes:

>Anyone know of any on the peninsula/south bay?

Eugene's, on San Antonio near Foothill in Los Altos. Very good Polish food,
and order a bottle of Bull's Blood to go with it. (try the combo plate
first. The Goulash and pierogies are wonderful).

Go hungry.

-- 
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  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms
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	  FURTHER ADVENTURES OF BATMAN, in better bookstores now!

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       Each from his accustomed place steps into the world once more.
From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: "pot sticker"
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:01:44 GMT
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Jul24.164224.24561@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
[...]
> 	I had never heard the term pot-sticker until I went to the Midwest
> (Milwaukee), and at first I thought it was some local name for "dumpling."
> Later, when I came out to CA, I heard people use the term here.  I suspect
> that _not_ using pot-sticker might be an east coast thing.
> 
> 	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>

Most of the Chinese restaurants I ate at in Ann Arbor, michigan called
them both on the menus: pot stickers (fried or boiled dumplings).

--
Nik Gervae
Software Publications, NeXT Computer, Inc.
ngervae@next.com
From: linda@gratton.net.com (Linda Hill)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: SF places to eat:  North Beach and near Golden Gate Park?
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:52:26 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <1992Jul23.164212.3560@PA.dec.com> silk@src.dec.com (Nina Silk) writes:
>In the Irving/9th Ave area, there's also a new Eritrean restaurant/bar at
>around 12th Ave.  I've eaten there twice so far, and found the food superior
>to the other Eritrean/Ethiopean places I've tried.  Their lunch menu lists
>the vegetarian combo at 8.50, just for an example.  

In the discussions regarding Eritrean/Ethiopian restaurants I've never
seen Masawa on Haight St. in SF mentioned.  This is the only place of
that type that my husband and I have tried and, since we like it, I was
wondering how it compares to the others.  We always get the combination
dinner family style (on one platter that you share) and love the food
especially the spicy beef.  The service can be very slow, but we know
to expect that so it doesn't usually bother us too much.

Any comparisons to be made?

linda@net.com (no matter what it says in the "From:" line)
From: murphy@mips.com (Mike Murphy)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Hungarian recommends?
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:48:11 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: jireh.mips.com

In article <69972@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>ssmith@xocolatl.com (Shannon Smith) writes:
>
>>As the subject line indicates, Hungarian would be nice--it's been
>>literally years.  The only Bay Area place I've ever tried was about
>>six years ago--the Paprikas.  Still there?  Any others?
>
>In newark is a place called Hungarian Huzar. I've never been there, those
>that have told me about it really like it.
>
I've been there, and it was good.  It is actually a dual restaurant:
the Hungarian Huzar and the Dumbarton Country Inn; they share the same
kitchen and a few of the dishes are the same, but the menus and seating
areas are different.  I haven't eaten at the Dumbarton side, but it was
pricier (even for dishes that the Hungarian side had), and had more of
your normal Continental food.  I frankly don't remember much of what I
ate at the Huzar (I've only been there once, a year ago), but I remember 
thinking that is was good, though not my favorite ethnic kind of food.
--mike
From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Polish restaurants?
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:54:48 GMT

Anyone know of any on the peninsula/south bay?  I've missed Cafe Amadeus dearly  
since I left Ann Arbor.  Okay, okay, more for the cute waiter than the food.   
But I am dying to taste bitki and pierogies again....

--
Nik Gervae
Software Publications, NeXT Computer, Inc.
ngervae@next.com
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: margaret@igor.tamri.com (Margaret Kritzer)
Subject: Santa Rosa restaurants?
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:32:20 GMT

I'm going up to SR on Saturday evening (to see kd lang!!).  Any
suggestions on a good restaurant to put me in the proper
mood?  No, this doesn't necessarily mean a "meat stinks"
attitude ... looking for something casual, unusual, moderate-
to-inexpensive.  Thanks.

-- 


==========================================================================
From: tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: "pot sticker"
Summary: Regional differences
Keywords: ba ny potsticker dumpling Chinese ravioli
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:54:40 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Here

In article <4492@bacon.IMSI.COM> jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
>Judy Lin <lin@Apple.COM> writes:
>
>	Well, I guess you haven't looked in Chinese-speaking areas.
>
>Hmmm.  I guess I live in a "Chinese-speaking area" (I suppose New York
>City's Chinatown would qualify?) and I still have never seen it that
>way.  It's possible that I just can't read the characters for guo-tieh,
>but the translation (on the menu) is always "fried dumplings" ...
>
>/jordan

When I left the NY area for college, everyone was talking about getting
potstickers, but I had no idea what the hell they were talking about.
(In addition, they weren't my absolute favorite menu item--I've had
a sweet tooth for egg tarts.)  If I recall correctly, I even remember
seeing it in a SF Chinatown restaurant being described as "Chinese
ravioli".  (although it may have been referring to any ravioli-like
Chinese food [won tons?])


-Richard
Dim sum was started in NYC.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bhickle@tcs.com (Bob Hickle)
Subject: Re: Buffalo Wings
Organization: Teknekron Communications, Inc
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:00:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.163729.17586@wdl.loral.com>, wrl@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Bill Lewandowski) writes:
|> I'm looking for recommendations for the best place in the
|> South Bay to get some Buffalo Wings.

Me too.  Chili's Restaurants have Buffalo Wings which are pretty good.

|> Also, is there a "Hooters" in the Bay Area anywhere ?? There
|> wings are not "Original Buffalo" but they are good.

Sadly, I havn't seen a Hooters around here, nor any of the imitators
I knew from Florida.  However, I saw a Hooters in Reno a couple of weeks
ago.  I didn't go in, so I can't speak for the quality of the place, but
it is part of the same chain.

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Subject: Re: San Jose Ethiopian Restaurants
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:54:46 GMT

Also, there's Nyala on Grove St. in San Francisco (which makes it a good
pre-opera, pre-orchestra choice).  Excellent Ethiopian food.  My apologies
for being politically incorrect here, but the waitresses are beautiful
and pleasant as well.  

Regards, Lee
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Olive Garden...
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:47:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <JET.92Jul20091739@win30.math.uh.edu> jet@win30.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>"somebody" == - A L L E N <c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU> writes:
>
>somebody> my friends from LA are under the impression that the Olive
>somebody> Gardens in LA are better than the Itallian restaurants in
>somebody> North Beach...

Olive Gardens are food-chains-that-happen-to-have-ok-food (some are 
better than others, some not) - and _maybe_ there's a good Olive
Garden in LA - but to compare them to North Beach Italian Restaurants
in General is typical LA_speak - there may be some North Beach restaurants
that are not as good as the LA Olive Garden (and those are probably
on the tourist route) but there's _so_ _many_ in the North Beach area
that are anywhere from excellent to outstanding that generalization
is silly at best
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From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Intro to Japanese food
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:37:43 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Chuck Fry <chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> writes:

	Needless to say I love uni.

A Japanese friend of mine (so you know it's true! ;-) said that it's
good luck if you don't like uni, since if you like it, you tend to
*love* it, and thus *have* to eat it a lot, and it's usually pretty
expensive!

/jordan who likes uni but doesn't love it ...
From: chrisk@hercules.esd.sgi.com (Chris Kotsiopoulos)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Buffalo Wings
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:25:11 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <13829@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John
Fereira) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul29.204258.25992@wdl.loral.com>
|> wrl@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Bill Lewandowski) writes:
|> |
|> |Hooters are up and down the east coast and a few otheR
|> |areas of the country
|> |
|> | I was at one last month in Orlando (4 Hooters there)
|> 
|> Is anyone else having trouble reading this thread with a straight
|> face?

Orlando doesn't sound like my kind of town; there are only four hooters there.
I wanna know when Hooter's will "expand" in the Bay Area.
Are they the same outfit as "Los Hooteros" in Milpitas?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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     Modular Systems Division                   
     Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA  
     Casa de Hardware
     A licenced, practicing carnivore
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
Subject: Re: Intro to Japanese food
Organization: Recom Technologies, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:18:59 GMT

In article <9207222038.AA02136@jupiter.nmt.edu> john@JUPITER.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
[regarding sushi]
>There are two things that are so awful that you shouldn't
>try them until you have tried everything else.  I would
>guess that out of 100 people, fewer than 20 like uni
>(sea urchin roe).  It is rarely really fresh, so avoid
>this one away from the coast even in good places.

Uni separates the sushi fans from the sushi wimps.  My father, sad to
say, believes it looks, feels, and tastes like baby shit.  Unfortunate
that he's the one who gets to Japan on business, and has to refuse
when his hosts offer him this delicacy!!

Needless to say I love uni.  It is reputed to be a very "manly" food.

Another true sushi fan's item is sweet shrimp.  This poor little
critter's head gets deep-fried for its trouble.  I still have a hard
time eating this, with the little eyes staring at me.

> Then there is natto (fermented soybeans).

Can't say I've ever tried this.  Maybe just as well.

You also failed to mention squid and octopus.  I don't care for either
one, but maybe I just haven't had a good rendition of either in a
while.

 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@charon.arc.nasa.gov
    Sushi fan since '85
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Ethiopian/Eritrean food
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:18:00 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

linda@gratton.net.com (Linda Hill) writes:

>In the discussions regarding Eritrean/Ethiopian restaurants I've never
>seen Masawa on Haight St. in SF mentioned.  This is the only place of
>that type that my husband and I have tried and, since we like it, I was
>wondering how it compares to the others.  

I've eaten at Masawa in the Haight, Blue Nile in Berkeley, and Red Sea in
San Jose. I like them all, but Masawa is usually much less crowded than
Blue Nile.  I think Masawa is slightly cheaper than the others.

--
Stef					"One of us has to be a pragmatist."
stef@apple.com				"Nonsense!"
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: james@wrs.com (James Moore)
Subject: Fresh clotted cream - does it exist here?
Reply-To: james@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:25:02 GMT

Does anyone know if there's any place one can find clotted cream (sometimes
known as "Devon cream") in the bay area?  I've found it in jars, but that's
not the same thing.

Thanks,

-- 
James Moore                            /|\                        james@wrs.com
Wind River Systems                     \|/                  Alameda, California
	 "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half
			  didn't mean anything at all"
From: hunt@squid.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Hunt)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Crabnet, Palo Alto (review)
Date: 23 Jul 1992 03:57:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid

In article <9207192013.AA13365@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>
>The Crabnet, 369 Lytton Ave. (near Florence and the First
>Nationwide Bank and a 2-hour Palo Alto public parking lot),
>(415)322-6523; open Tuesday-Sunday, 10:30-3:30 and 5-9:30.
>

I tried this place today for lunch.

Talented chef, amateur waiter/co-owner.

examples:

Delicious chowder, brought without bread.  When bread requested, it
came toasted.  Chowder without bread is not wrong, just different.

Crab sandwich brought and deposited halfway through soup.
Really good crab, well presented, but the delivery was brusque.
I understand some people may be in a hurry, or like to mix them,
but it was a surprise, though not in any way unpleasant.

Yes the tables are small, but ketchup and butter were put on the next
table over.  Again, not wrong, just different.

Business discussed with a saleman loudly during lunch hour.


Food was good, I will go back, I will try other dishes.

Perhaps someone could mention this trend, hopefully to the chef.
Or take this in and show it to them.

They desperately need a trained and experienced waitperson.

--
jim hunt@Eng.Sun.COM		yatta yatta disclaimer
George Bush is 68 years old and Dan Quayle is an idiot.
In '96, George Bush will be 72 and Dan Quayle will still be an idiot.
From: ed@weir.pa.dec.com (Ed Gould)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Intro to Japanese food
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:16:31 GMT
Reply-To: ed@pa.dec.com
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab, Palo Alto

> I've only had uni in the US. The bad stuff tastes like low tide. The best
> I've had tastes very much like thick cream with zero hint of fishiness.
> I don't eat it to one-up other sushi eaters, but because when it's good
> it really is quite good.

This is my experience, too.  Many sushi bars seem to have uni all the time,
because some people think it's macho to eat it, regardless of how it tastes.
The bars I've liked best have only had uni available when it was good.  I
understand from talking to a sushi chef that uni is only really good in the
winter and early spring when the water is coldest.  At other times of the year
it has stronger, fishy-like flavors.

--
Ed Gould	  ed@pa.dec.com		Digital Equipment Corporation
+1 415 688 1309	  Network Systems Lab	505 Hamilton Ave, Palo Alto, CA  94301

"Unison is only one form of harmony." -- LW