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From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Long winter's nap . . .
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:16:53 GMT
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In <9625@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:


>   Just a datapoint on the winter riding chart.  I checked the thermometer
>this morning at about 6:45 and it read 14 deg. F.  Clear sky and no ice/snow
>on the roads so I rode to work of course.  
>   I think it is going to be a cold winter this year.


29 degrees F in Boston, clear skiis so I rode to work. The real question is when will my 
irratation with the traffic be surpassed by my irratation by the cold
resulting in storing the bike for the winter.

Dave
DoD 1085

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From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:49:47 GMT

From article <BxzExu.I8p@news.iastate.edu>, by tomes@iastate.edu ():
> In article <1992Nov19.165638.8726@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>continues in the same line. If you're an observer moving with the bike,
>>it feels like the bike's rotation in the plane of the lean is about the
>>centre of mass.
>>
>>Try this at home. Go around potholes with your wheels, but straight over them
>>with your body.
> 
> so try and answer my question, like why do the wheels stay in contact with the
> ground if the bike rotates about the center of mass?
> 
> CP Tomes
So _read_ the post you are following up, fercryinoutloud.

Just like Jody said, it's because the bike is _rolling_ along the ground,
allowing the wheels to move sideways _as_ they move forward. The wheels roll
forward&out, the head moves in, the cg is rotated about. Friggin' Aristotleians
that don't listen to arguments _or_ experiment. Sheesh.

-Lawrence Smith, MSC Computing Staff - Cornell Univ., Ithaca, NY
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From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:33:00 GMT

While heading into Morristown NJ from where I live in PA I had just
crossed in to NJ on I-80. A state trooper was buried in
the median by an overpass and I sailed by him at +65, well
I knew he head me dead nuts so I drifted over 4 lanes as
soon as he pulled out, didn't even turn his lights on as
I pulled onto the shoulder, trooper was very polite and I
had license, insurance card and reg all ready for him and
he said "You registered doing 70" I said "Yea, I wanted
to get past the 15 tractor trailers I've been stuck behind
for the last 12 miles on the two lane section" and he headed
back to his car, came back 5 minutes later and no ticket.
Then the passenger gets out, sargeant type, and walks up to
me after his (I then found out) student/cadet got back in
to the car and says " What unit are you with" to which I replied
"An artillery unit in Morristown NJ" his reply was
"The reason youre not getting a ticket is because you were 
cooperative and showed cadet xxxxx how a good stop goes" 
and he continued "I also know that truck of yours and have 
seen it for quite a while, if I catch you again at +66, 
my brother, your first sargeant, will have your ass in addition 
to the ticket" smiled and walked away. Being in uniform can cut 
both ways.
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From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Going to Japan, Need Suggestions.
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:51:46 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh) writes:
: 
: 
: 
: My work is taking me to Japan in the near future. Some time in the past

	Oh how I envy you...I was there in 87 as a high school
	student...My impression of their MC market was impressive...
		Be sure you get a Honda while you are there...(you might
		even think about bringing one or more back with you...)
	Honda is known not for its cars in Japan but for their
	bikes... You will love the abundance of mountains there...but
	be prepared for the larger cost of living, especially in
	Tokyo...(very expensive)...If you've never been get ready for
	some really interesting times...

		You might think about importing a Harley when you go
		over... The local Yakuza will probably be offering you an
		arm and a leg for it once you take it out of its
		crate...foreign cars/bikes go for big money there...a real
		American Harley would command the respect, admiration, and
		cash of anyone who is interested in bikes...of course you
		might not have time for such speculations...(sigh)

	Have fun...!!!!!!!!!!!

		Ryan
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From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: 350->750 Riddle
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:52:47 GMT


  How about 

  He duct taped his pants to his boots and then ...

__
   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous
From: mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Why does the JERK make it so damn easy??
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:28:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I came across an interesting article in the latest Motorcyclist about 
prepping a CBR900RR for endurance racing.  "Hmmm..." methinks, "they don't
actually talk about the race for which the editors have prepared."  The
next thing I spot is some rather obvious crash damage to the 'RR. "Aha,
this is why no mention of the race itself. Gee, I wonder who laid this
beauty down?"  Since the crash receives only passing mention in the text
which was, of course, written by the JERK (tm) I can only assume that he
is indeed the guilty party.

Were any LA types actually at the race (Willow Springs, I believe) and can
you verify this?

Mike Taffe		*   VF500F
			*   
DoD# 753		*   "...rant, rave... stupid .edu postings!"
				--they're just mad 'cause we post for free.

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From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Finally & Prejudice
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:49:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.083734.1@skcla.monsanto.com> mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>>>YO JEFF... REGARDING ALL YOUR "COMMENTS"... LIKE

Personally, I like anything with wheels (even some with four) and an engine.
I work with Mike, and just wanted to bust his ass due to a serious case of
jealousy. Just don't care for those silly smiley things.


>>>Does this make it go faster ?
>>>
>> 
>> Merely a matter of personal preference, but IMO a better question is "how 
>> much of this stuff is necessary?" A solo seat, rearsets, fork brace, swingarm
>> brace, fiberglass (or plastic) fenders. Delete windshield, saddlebags, radio,
>> and anything else not needed to hold your ass off the pavement. Should save 
>> at least 100 pounds. 
>>   Bore it, stroke it, cam and carb it. Send the heads to Jerry Branch for
>> massaging. 
>>   Course, you could just buy a Moto Guzzi Daytona or a Ducati 900SS for a 
>> lot less money.
>> 
>> Jeff Achenbach
>> Norton Commando, Triumph Bonneville, Moto Morini 3 1/2, BMW R90S, Yamaha SR500
>
>There ARE individuals who ride motorcycles who actually have interests
>different than your own.  Since 1) it's THEIR bike, not yours, and 2) the last
>time I looked, motorcycling was touted as a means of INDIVIDUAL expression (not
>yours alone!)  people can and should continue to have fun with their machines. 
>Gee, I hope we don't offend you too much.

Not at all. I'm probably one of the most offensive folks you could ever wish
to meet, especially after a sixpack or two.

>
>By the way, you DO have some nice bikes!
>

Thanks, I enjoy them. But I'm always lusting after the ones I don't have.
Someday I'd like to build a serious performance Sportster, but I can't 
begin to afford a Buell.

 
Jeff Achenbach
 


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From: igregory@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ivan.w.gregory)
Subject: No longer a Wannabe
Keywords: Harley
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:20:01 GMT

First time greetings:

I've been an avid reader of this newsgroup since it began and that other
rec.moto group before then.  I've been trying to talk myself into getting
a Harley since 1978, so I feel incredibly fortunate to have discovered that
I had access to this network.  Needless to say, I've received quite a bit 
of advice and wisdom from this group.  

A couple of weeks ago, my mid-life crisis overwhelmed me and I found myself
shelling out some megabucks for a 1991 FXR Superglide.  I don't know why I
waited all these years.

Anyway, I've a question or two that perhaps someone may want to respond to:

     1. As the FXR looks pretty good now, I'd like to keep it looking that
        way.  I've just rode ratbikes in the past and wasn't that concerned
        about looks.  Anyone who would care to post their favorite method of
        giving their bike a bath, including brand name of products used, 
        would be welcome.
     2. I've noticed that when I hit a dip or bump in the road, I hear a 
        "clunk" when the front forks extend to max.  Would this indicate a
        problem or is it the nature of the beast? (In my recent former life,
        the Yamaha 650 I rode didn't act this way).

Thanks for any responses you wish to make.

Ivan  
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From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: 71 Shovel
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:25:30 GMT

In article <david.49.722036481@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU> david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin) writes:
>I think the person looking for the 71 Shovel softail---84 cu may be on the 
>wrong track.
>For a start Harleys in 71 were 1200cc (74cu) big twins,Sportsters were 
>883cc. Harley never made a Shovelhead softail. All softails are evo motors 
 ^^^
  Bzzt. wrong answer.  The iron head sporties in 71 were 1000cc motors.

>and of 80cu.
>I am assuming that this letter was a joke, If it was then agent 99 got me.
>+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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>University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury               Fax: +61 45 88 5867
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From: felske@erich.triumf.ca (FELSKE, WAYNE W.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: XLH vs Big Twin
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:48 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article Blumstein) writes that...
In article FELSKE, WAYNE W. writes:
>+        Sportsters are not close to a Big Twin. Nor are they close to a rice
>+rocket. They are thier own and unique. No, not as comfy as a low rider, but
>+faster and more responsive. Not as fast as a FXR, but more comfy.
> 
>Since Low Riders = FXR, you are saying:
> 
>Sportsters are faster than low riders.
>Sportsters are not as fast as low riders.
> 
>Sportster's are "not as comfy" as low riders.
>Sportser's are "more comfy" than low riders.
>
	So Sorry !! 
	One lousy letter wrong and I get burned
		I wanted to write FZ
			got it...  VZR or what ever 
			I just couldn't get my thumb from between the keys !!

		All the Jap sport bikes use sop many letters I just plain get
         confused. Too many letters...
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Subject: Re: Lookin for Harley "Trooper"
From: PRUITER@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 12:14:11 PST
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Nov20.175831.1939@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Marcus.Dickreiter@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Marcus Dickreiter) writes:
 
>
>Hi!
>
>Does anybody know somethin about the Harley "Trooper" - Scooter???
>
>I would be glad to get some more Informationes!
>
>Thanks! (a German scooterist)
>
>ELVIS FOREVER!
 
  Do you mean the Harley Topper Scooter? It was made for about 4-5 years
in the early 60s. I beleive it was a two stroke (zwei takt). ... Perry
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: petterb@dhhalden.no (PETTER BRUSERUD)
Subject: 39 mm Fork Relief
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:53:40 GMT

Sorry, but the previous message on this subject was not to be posted, but my 
IBM fucked up and did some stranges moves.

Petterb@dhhalden.no         I haven't lost my mind, I know exactly
                            where I put it!! 
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:48:26 -0500 
From: John Makel <jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: No longer a Wannabe

Ivan,
   Congrats on the 91 Superglide, as to your question regarding the bathing 
of the bike, I do not unless it is dirty from riding through a rain storm
or mud puddles, I take a damp cloth and wipe the dirty areas then followed
by a clean lint free rag(sweatshirt type cloth) to clean any marks left
behind then follwoed by a wax(carnuba) to protect the finish. If the bike
is exceptionally dirty I would use a hose(not pressure hose though at a 
car wash), and clean as before, wiping excess water, then waxing. Watch
using Armour All on the tires, it makes driving difficult to say the least,
using it on the seat makes it slippery as well, do not put it on the
rubber pegs! Your choice of wax is up to you, I like Mothers' carnuba,
other netters
have any products they find that works well, let us all know.
   Regarding the clunk sound, it could be from lack of fluid(dirty fluid also)
in the front forks, or that you are driving 600 lbs of bike through some
craters
at high of a speed, I have had that clunk sound as the front end struck
a pothole bottomed out and then the front end went in the opposite direction
to extending to their maximum posistion, as far as making the noise in dips
maybe something is loose have you checked caliper, brackets, pads etc.,?
I just picked up a 91 FXRS covertible that has air forks and it rides like a 
champ, try to isolate the sound by compressing the front end while sitting
still does the sound still occur, and go from there.
   Once again enjoy the new bike and welcome aboard!!



                                    john...


16F(soon)
47Indian(started)
78FX
80Sturgis
91FXRS-Con.just got
92FLHTC
HOG
AMA
ABATE
From: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Good Deal?
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:45:57 GMT
Reply-To: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov20.164851.2894@icomsim.com> mmanning@icomsim.com (Michael Mannning) writes:

>Did they make a Fat Boy in `86? I don't remember. 

Everyone says "no".

>known to drag the floor boards on mine, but the primary? I just can't see it.
>Too many bits that you'll drag first preventing you from leaning further. I
>used to hit the pegs on my Superglide once and a while (center controls), but
>again the primary never touched. I don't think it could have short of

I hope to hear the "rest of the story" about the bike this weekend.
My guess is that he had an accident and doesn't want to admit it.

>this year) and I don't lust for a rubber mount. Of course everything I've had
>has been solid mount so I don't know first hand what I'm missing. Can't miss

What about your Superglide mentioned above, wasn't it rubber mount?

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From: lynn@pacesetter.com (Lynn E. Hall)
Subject: Re: XLH vs Big Twin
Organization: Siemens Pacesetter, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:07:44 GMT

>       Maybe just  seems like it but of the accidents I've heard of this year
>just  as many were on a Big V. It has also occurred to me that the mainstream
>riders as a group are getting older as maybe half of the bad accidents I've
>heard of this year involved riders over 30 years of age. I think the bad trafic
>is getting to even the experienced riders out thier. Or is it my imagination?
>
>    Wayne Felske      Still surviving the streets of Vancouver.
>

  I guess I'll just stay out here in the L.A. Zoo. Here most of the
accidents involve rice riders and most are under the age of 30. You see it
all the time. The experienced riders don't take the chances a novice will,
especially when they are wearing helmets. By the way, the CHP (California
Highway Patrol) has released data showing an increase in motorcycle deaths
of 10% since the mandatory helmet law went into effect. More body parts to
be donated I suppose. Of course, I carry a card next to my license that
stated that my body parts will be donated ONLY to a state that has no
mandatory helmet law ;@). It is signed and witnessed by two licensed, adult
people. It's legal and binding.
                               Lynn Hall - NOS Bros
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From: phy@i88.isc.com (Paul Young)
Subject: Re: fork size 
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.152547.11109@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site) writes:
|> 
|> >That depends on the year model of the Sporty. 1990 and later have the 39mm
|> >forks (I think it's '90, could be '89). The earlier EVO Sporty's had 35mm
|> >forks (back to '86). I dunno what size the '85 and earlier ones had, likely
|> >35mm also.
|> >
|> >-- 
|> My sporty has the big forks; it's an '88.  I think they came out in '87...
|> 

The Sportys had 35mm forks up until the '88, which is the same year
they changed the carbs.

|> --
|> Steve Cowell......Ki5YG
|>

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From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Sonny Barger
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:01:04 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <Stafford-171192090729@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> 
> Why do you think he is more notorious as an outlaw than notorious for
> being the president of the Hells Angels?  Not true in my opinion.
> He has _always_ been identified as president of the Hells Angles
> in news.

In the eyes of the american public Hells Angels = outlaw.  The usual
reports of them include drug selling, murder, mayhem etc...   It is
being disingenuous to state otherwise.   There is only a small percentage
of people that view them as romantic loners on steel horses embodying
the american myth of the outsider.  

He wasn't arrested for being the president of the Hells Angels, or for
riding a motorcycle.

Terry

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From: stafford@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Patches (was Re: XLH vs Big Twin
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:27:32 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

Lynn said (in part):

>I've seen a patch pulled and its not a nice sight. 

Another grisley sight is the involuntary removal of a tatooed patch.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Re: Don't flame on this....
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:58:15 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Nov18.153403.3259@nic.csu.net> sgenchi@neptune.uucp wrote:
>
> He spends every moment on his bike and I would love to give him an article on
> how to tell the differences between bikes and any other 'new harley owner'
> information.

I'd suggest he buy an Illustrated Harley-Davidson Buyer's Guide.
Check out the ads by Classic Motorbooks in any of the cycle rags.
Make sure he gets a new edition; I bought mine a month before 
CM got the new edition in stock.  I think the book is about $20.
Well worth it; the pictures of the '36 Knucklehead EL is worth 
every bit of that bill.

I can provide ISBN number and a phone number/address if for 
some reason you can't find a Classic Moto ad.

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               '91 Nighthawk CB750 - DoD #393, AMA, VME
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