From: S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: European Cups standings so far (as on April 10)
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:59:50 GMT



 This is the table which illusrates European Cups 1991/92 standing so
 far (updated on April 10)

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     |       |            T    E    A    M    S          |  POINTS PER
     |       |                                           |     TEAM
     |       |                            after          |
     |       |          after    after   UEFA Cup        | cur-    expec-
PLACE|COUNTRY| started 1st leg  2nd leg  3rd leg    now  |  rent    ted
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  1   ITALY   1+1+4=6  1+1+2=4  1+1+2=4  1+1+2=4  1+0+2=3  9.167   10.000
  2   SPAIN   1+1+4=6  1+1+3=5  1+1+2=4  1+1+1=3  1+0+1=2  8.000    8.667
  3   HOLLAND 1+1+3=5  1+1+2=4  0+1+1=2  0+1+1=2  0+1+1=2  7.600    8.500
  4   BELGIUM 1+1+3=5  1+1+1=3  1+1+1=3  1+1+1=3  1+1+0=2  7.400    8.100
  5   CZ.-SL  1+1+2=4  1+1+1=3  1+0+1=2  1+0+1=2  1+0+0=1  7.750    8.025
  6   FRANCE  1+1+3=5  1+1+3=5  0+1+0=1  0+1+0=1  0+1+0=1  6.400    6.800
  7   ENGLAND 1+2+1=4  1+2+1=4  0+1+1=2  0+1+1=2  -------  6.750    6.750
  8   TURKEY  1+1+1=3  0+1+1=2  0+1+1=2  0+1+0=1  -------  5.667    5.667
  9   GREECE  1+1+2=4  1+0+2=3  1+0+1=2  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  5.250    5.625
 10   PORTUG. 1+1+3=5  1+1+1=3  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  5.200    5.500
 10   CIS     1+1+3=5  1+0+3=4  1+0+1=2  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  5.200    5.500
 12   YUGOSL. 1+1+2=4  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  1+0+0=1  5.000    5.375
 13   GERMANY 2+2+6=10 1+1+5=7  0+1+1=2  0+1+0=1  0+1+0=1  4.800    5.000
 14   DENMARK 1+1+2=4  1+0+1=2  0+0+1=1  0+0+1=1  -------  4.250    4.250
 15   SWITZ.  1+1+2=4  0+1+1=2  0+0+1=1  -------  -------  4.000    4.000
 16   ROMANIA 1+1+2=4  0+0+2=2  0+0+1=1  -------  -------  2.750    2.750
 16   HUNGARY 1+1+2=4  1+1+0=2  -------  -------  -------  2.750    2.750
 18   AUSTRIA 1+1+2=4  0+0+1=1  0+0+1=1  -------  -------  2.250    2.250
 18   SCOTL.  1+1+2=4  0+0+1=1  -------  -------  -------  2.250    2.250
 20   SWEDEN  1+1+2=4  1+1+0=2  -------  -------  -------  2.000    2.000
 21   POLAND  1+1+1=3  0+1+0=1  -------  -------  -------  1.667    1.667
 22   FINLAND 1+1+2=4  0+1+0=1  -------  -------  -------  1.250    1.250
 22   BULGAR. 1+1+2=4  0+0+1=1  -------  -------  -------  1.250    1.250
 24   CYPRUS  1+1+1=3  1+0+0=1  -------  -------  -------  1.000    1.000
 24   ALBANIA 1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  1.000    1.000
 24   ICELAND 1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  1.000    1.000
 27   IRELAND 1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  0.667    0.667
 27   N.IREL. 1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  0.667    0.667
 29   NORWAY  1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  0.333    0.333
 30   WALES   0+1+0=1  -------  -------  -------  -------  0.000    0.000
 30   LUXEMB. 1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  0.000    0.000
 30   MALTA   1+1+1=3  -------  -------  -------  -------  0.000    0.000
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 Some explanations:
 ------------------
 1.) "a+b+c=d" means "a teams in Champion's Cup, b teams in Cup Winner's
     Cup, c teams in UEFA Cup, and d (a+b+c) teams overall."
 2.) "-------" means "0+0+0=0".
 3.) I assume everyone knows that every team gets 2 points for win, 1
     point for draw, and 1 point for qualifying to quarterfinals/semifi-
     nals/finals. (By the way, there will be no semifinals in Champion's
     Cup, because of new formula.) Then the whole bunch of points got
     by all teams of the country is divided on the number of teams of
     this country, started in the EuroCups.
 4.) How do I count the "expected points per team" ? Well, there are
     12 remaining points in Champion's Cup which will be divided among
     8 remaining teams (1.500 per team), 8 remainig points in Cup Win-
     ner's Cup which will be divided among 4 remaining teams (2.000 per
     team), and 10 remaining points in UEFA Cup which will be divided
     among 4 remaining teams (2.500 per team). Sure, those points will
     not be divided equally, but for expectation we should assume they
     will. So, the more current points per team you have, the more teams
     of your country remain in EuroCups, and the less teams started in
     EuroCups -- the more "expected points" you deserve.
       For example, Belgium started will 5 teams this season. Belgium
     now has 7.400 points per team. There are 2 (1+1+0) remaining Belgian
     teams in EuroCups so far. So, according to fair expectation, they'll
     get 1.500 + 2.000 = 3.550 more points. 3.500 / 5 = 0.700.
     7.400 + 0.700 = 8.100 "expected points per team".
       If I posted just "current points per team", it wouldn't be fair
     table.

Now some conclusions:
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1.) The 1st leg was very succesful for France and England -- they lost
    no teams. The 2nd leg wasn't so succesful for them. It was succesful
    (loseless) for Italy, Belgium, Turkey, Yugoslavia and Austria.
    The 3rd leg of UEFA Cup was succesful for Italy, Holland, Denmark,
    Czecho-Slovakia and England. Cup Winner's Cup and UEFA Cup quarter-
    finals were sussesful for Holland, France and Germany.
2.) Only Italy still keeps 3 teams in EuroCups (out of 6). Nobody keeps
    more.
3.) No one has teams in all 3 Cups.
4.) The main surprise in the success of Czecho-Slovak teams who have 5th
    place. Indeed, "Sparta"(Prague) and "Sigma"(Olomouc) played very
    well.
5.) According to the table above, the current "Big Five" of Europe are
    Italy, Spain, Holland, Belgium and Czecho-Slovakia. It doesn't seem
    very unusual (in spite of Czecho-Slovakia presense and Germany &
    England absense).
6.) The clubs of the countries whose national teams qualified to the
    European championship finals don't play very well.(Holland has 3rd
    place, France -- 6th, England -- 7th, CIS -- 10th, Yugoslavia --
    12th, Germany -- 13th, Scotland -- 18th.)
    Meanwhile, Italy (1st place), Spain (2nd), Belgium (4th), Czecho-
    Slovakia (5th) had serious problems in European Championship quali-
    fiers.

    Well, that's all so far. Please feel free to add your comments and
    objections. Please don't ask me what the meaning of all this is.
    There is no meaning, all written above has been written just for fun.

    After April 15 I'll update
    all this stuff.


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