HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jayas@vast.unsw.edu.au (Jayasooriah)
Subject: Re: Bad neighborhoods in Singapore
Organization: University of New South Wales
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:02:45 GMT

u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia) writes:
:
: [ stuff deleted ]
:
: 'Jiao' means 'bird' in Hokkien which can mean 'prick' depending on the context
: which it is used. 'lao' means 'old', so 'lao jiao' means 'old bird' which
: is usually refers to someone who is an 'old hand'/experienced at something.
: I have'nt a clue what 'lan' means though 'lan-jiao'(or simply 'lan' for short)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: means 'prick'
: 
: Edmund

I recall many years ago when the then DATSUN distributors were
sponsoring a show on TV in which the Datsun Blue-Bird was promoted,
the obvious translation "Datsun Lan-Liao" was not used but another
term (I forgot) which when translated means "Datsun Blue-Quail".

So I think the "lan" means "Blue"!  Why Blue?

Jaya

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From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: Singlish is spreading
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 13:36:18 GMT

In article <4900026@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, selee@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lee Say Eng) writes:
|> 
|> One of the notes servers within HP keeps really old messages.  Yesterday,
|> I read some stuff on "Singlish" written way back in February.  And in the 
|> message, "Kyle Hor" said that she would really like to listen to someone
                                 ^^^
|> speak Singlish.  It seems to me that she has already begun to write 
                                        ^^^
|> Singlish!
|> 
Dear sir (or is it madam?),

I take offense for being referred to a she instead of a HE.  I am a male, a guy,
a he-man, with Y-chromosomes.
-- 
...Kyle              khor@bnr.ca         (613) 763-2488
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:01:34 GMT


 I remember when I was faced with the decision whether to go to the States
or UK for my undergrad. After talking to lots of people, the general 
consensus seemed to be that UK generally has a higher quality undergraduate
program than the US while the US generally has a superior postgrad. program.

Of course there are lots of universities in the US with good reputation
such as Stanford, MIT etc but the problem is that with the emphasis
on postgrad. education and research, the undergraduates suffer.

This is my impression but the bottom line is, if you are good, than 
most employers don't give two hoots where you studied. So this debate
about UK/US is a bit redundant.

waseem
-- 
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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:24:47 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

C580503@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Albert Foo) writes:
:  
: On 25 Aug 1992 11:43:53 -0700 K.C.Goh said:
: >Questions:
: >How does one translate the UK class of honours system to the US GPA
: >system? Does 1st Class = 3.8, 2nd Class U = 3.2, 2nd class L = 2.8
: >etc sound right ?
: >
: Hmm... That depends on the universities/colleges grades system. Over at
: MIZZOU (University of Missouri) a 3.90 would be a "Summa Cum Laude",
: 3.80 - "Magna Cum Laude", and 3.75 - "Cum Laude".  I guess that should
: translate into the UK class of honors ie. 1st. Class, 2nd. Class Upper,
: and 2nd. Class Lower.
:  
: Any comments?
There is also a third class honours, maybe equivalent to 3.5 
I think the Malaysian govenment uses this guideline.
	However I notice that there are references of Honours courses in
USA from the more established universities, which I think refer to slightly
different syllabus and need for project/thesis.
	This is what UK honours degree practice for calling honors degrees.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: clipper@gleep.csd.uwo.ca (Khun Yee Fung)
Subject: Re: ASEAN Cities
Organization: The University of Western Ontario, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:55:55 GMT
	<1992Aug26.111252.28838@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>

>>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:12:52 GMT, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) said:

Othman> Hey, you miss Kota Kinabalu. It has a city status by reason of
Othman> cleanliness, and size, not on population. I believe it is the
Othman> only city without any major traffic jam in the region.

This is strange. Traffic jams had been around since about 1971 when
the first traffic light was installed near the telecom building in
Tanjong Aru (My father used to drive us there just to see the strange
device).  Not as massive as in other cities, but certainly traffic
jams nonetheless.

When I left Kota Kinabalu, it was certainly clean except in some areas
(new areas). We always did not understand why Singapore was considered
the cleanest city when Kota Kinabalu was so clean and smell-free. At
that time, Singapore still had some incredibly smelly drains.

Othman> Driving and shopping in KK is a pleasure.

Is the merchandise still about two times the price as in Singapore?

Khun Yee


--
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Middlesex College
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario
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1 2 3   :)
From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:54:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <matthew.715139283@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz) writes:

>
>Czy mam zrozumiec, ze polscy obywatele pochodzenia zydowskiego nie
>byli, tak naprawde, Polakami? Ciekawe...
>

*
^Zostali zabici PONIEWAZ byli Zydami. Podobnie jak zupelnie zasymilowani
Zydzi z Niemiec i reszty Europy. Przynaleznosc panstwowa nie miala
zadnego znaczenia (podobnie jak wyznawana religia). Uznajac ten fakt
nie ujmiemy nikomu polskosci.

>
>Jezeli nie mamy dokladnych liczb zabitych polakow pochodzenia
>zydowskiego, to proponuje wziasc srednia granic, czyli 2.7 mln (na
>s.c.j ktos podal gorna granice jako 3.0 mln, co by dalo srednia 2.6
>mln).  Czy jest to wiecej czy mniej niz polowa zabitych Polakow?
>
Again zalezy jak sie liczy, przy Twoich obliczeniach wychodzi na
to ze stosuje "nowomatme" ergo falszuje historie, ergo ... no wlasnie co?

>
>O ktory fakt chodzi? [K.K. Zob * powyzej] 
>O ten twoj z nowomatmy, ze  2.7 > 6 / 2 ?  Jezeli
>tak, to lepiej sie nie bede spieral, no bo przeciez chodzi o jedyna
>slusznosc konkluzji, o racje, a nie o detale wywodu. Tak?
>
>
>MB
>
TO wszysto co masz do napisania na temat mego postingu? 

O ile pamietam, cala dyskusje wywolaly krzywdzace komentarze Saula Saala i
chyba Danny Kerena (?sp). Rozumiem, ze wszyscy chcemy prostowac klamstwa i
udowadniac, ze ta bolesna sprawa nie ma prostych wyjasnien typu, mniej wiecej
"wy wszyscy tacy sami i winni" lub "my tez ofiary i niewinni"
Jesli juz wlazimy na soc.culture.jewish (gdzie nas pewnie tak chca, jak
my dowcipnisiow z rec.humor) to nie uzywajmy argumentow obrazliwych dla
 drugiej strony (a za taki oni uwazaja "spolszczenie" ich ofiar i maja w
tym _pewna ilosc racji_ NOTE: juz nie jestem taki pewny siebie)

Pozdrawiam
K.K.
--

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Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter | to do it well,
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                | learn to enjoy doing it badly.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz)
Subject: Re: Antisemitism in Poland.
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:52:35 GMT

marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:

>I just came back from Poland ( I was there for 3 weeks), there is no antisemitism
>whatsovever in Poland, with the exception of few jokes here and there. As a 
>matter of fact some of the key people in the Polish governemnt are of Jewish

This is really funny. When I visited Poland in May, I found the opposite
to be true. Almost all the economic problems were blamed on Jews; in
general, the idea of "bij Zyda" was not uncommon.
Maybe there are two different Polands? Mine included Warsaw.

W. Dobosiewicz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: mbk113@rsphy1.anu.edu.au (Marek Kaminski)
Subject: Poczta Polska- zlodziejstwo kwalifikowane???
Keywords: scam
Reply-To: mbk113@rsphy1.anu.edu.au (Marek Kaminski)
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 04:03:17 GMT

Wyslalem bylem w czerwcu paczke poczta do Polski; lotnicza oczywiscie,
inna z Australii idzie
wieki.  NA SZCZESCIE ubezpieczylem ja wysoko. Gdy po 6 tygodniach nie
dotarla, zglosilem zazalenie. 
Poczta australijska zwrocila sie do PP o wyjasnienie. Niedoszly odbiorca
podpisal odnosne oswiadczenie
ze paczki nie otrzymal. Po kilku dniach, w sumie po 2.5 miesiacach od
wysylki, ni stad ni zowad
paczke doreczono, cala i zdrowa.

Mozliwe wyjasnienia:
1.	Szla, szla az doszla;
2.	Zawieruszyla sie, po interwencji staneli na glowie i ja znalezli;
3.	Doszla byla wczesniej, odlozono ja grzeczniutko na bok i czekano, czy
sie ktos upomni.
	Upomnial sie - to doreczono. Nie upomnialby sie... Merry Christmas!

Najbardziej do mnie przemawia (3); swiadczyloby to o wyrafinowanym i
dobrze zorganizowanym
zlodziejstwie. Dowodow nie mam, jeden przypadek statystyki nie robi. Czy
ktos mial podobne
doswiadczenia ?
Marek Kaminski, Canberra.
From: chrisn@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Chris Novak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:36:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Power Software

aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur) writes:
>>
>>Forgiving implies a continued guilt. One way to read world war II is
>>that is showed what highly educated humans are capable of doing to
>>others.  To insist on continued guilt is the further propagation of
>>the very racism that underlay naziism.  One group of racists (the
>>Germans and their allies) did their evil deed on other groups of
>>racists.

>Ted, I think it explains precisely, why you are in such a passionate
>love with ethnic jokes. Further explanation is not necessary. I would
>be only interested, which fellow-countrymen organization you
>belong to.

In other words: who is behind it and whom does it serve?
(kto za tym stoi i komu to sluzy?)

>Aleksander Mazur

Chris Novak
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From: anton@gagme.chi.il.us (Andrzej Borowiec)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:18:49 GMT
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Originator: anton@gagme

In article <matthew.714707356@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Matthew Zalbiciewski) writes:
>dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
>
>><1992Aug24.235836.847@dgbt.doc.ca> ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>>#One group of racists (the
>>#Germans and their allies) did their evil deed on other groups of
>>#racists.  
>
>>Care to elaborate on this amazing statement?
>
>>-Danny Keren.
>
>I sometimes see it like this:
>
>	The Nazis were only doing their job, while the rabidly
>	antisemitic Poles happily jumped on the band-wagon of
>	extermination of the Jews in Polish Death Camps.
>
>

Gee Matthew, did you see it all yourself or there is some other
source of your learned opinion?

>Humbly,
>MZ

Andrzej Borowiec
From: krzystek@milton.u.washington.edu (Jerzy Krzystek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: "Spojrzenia" nr. 40 - spis tresci
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:00:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

_______________________________________________________________________
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            / _||   ||   |  | ||   | |_   || |_  | \ | || ||   |
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Piatek, 4.09.1992.                                               nr 40
_______________________________________________________________________

W numerze:

     Jurek Karczmarczuk - Jezyk w wacie (1)
          K. A. Wozniak - Kimberley Travelogue. Lipiec 1992 (fragment)
        Jerzy Remigioni - Nowa inkwizycja?
        Blanca Jicinska - Czy zbrodnie komunistyczne mozna ukarac?
         Maciek Cieslak - Na Wschodzie lubia porzadek

_______________________________________________________________________


Prenumerata: Jurek Krzystek. Numery archiwalne dostepne przez anonymous
FTP, adres: <tirana.berkeley.edu> (128.32.123.30), directory:
/pub/VARIA/polish/dir_spojrzenia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:35:09 CDT


In article <87665@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.195232.5646@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>
>>
>>Yes, many Poles did risk their lives to save Jews. But anti-semitism was
>>and still is endemic to Polish society. This goes quite a bit beyond 
>              ^^^^^^^
>>mere intolerance or prejudice. 
>
>You should check your Webster's , before you use a word. 
>
>
>--

Nie mowiac juz o tym, ze tak naprawde to dyskutowanie z tymi
endemicznymi antysemitami, antysemitkami i antysemiciatkami
to chyba grzech.

A. mazur

PS. Popatrz Krzysztof, nawet napisalem swoje nazwisko malymi
literami, zebys sie nie obrazil - ale potrzebuje dodatkowej
informacji. Otoz po sieci rozeszly sie pogloski, ze ta grupa,
co to dotychczas sobie samozaprzeczala zrozumiala juz swoj
blad i postanowila sie na przyszlosc poprawic nigdy wiecej
juz sobie nie samozaprzeczajac. Czy moglbys nam potwierdzic te
obiecujaca wiadomosc ?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Re: Antisemitism in Poland.
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:53:23 GMT

Mario Smarduch writes:

>I just came back from Poland ( I was there for 3 weeks), there is no antisemitism
>whatsovever in Poland, with the exception of few jokes here and there. As a 
>matter of fact some of the key people in the Polish governemnt are of Jewish
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>descent
 ^^^^^^^
Sorry Mario, but this you must have heard during some electioneering
campaign by some political opposition parties (which I will not mention).
Unfortunately *this* exactly proves the existence of antisemitism
in Poland.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:21:54 GMT

In article <matthew.715399406@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz) writes:
>
>Czyli, honorne dawanie odporu jest bee, a nadstawianie drugiego
>policzka cacy. I w ogole, tak biblia uczy...
>
Nie tylko 'biblia' ale sa to nawet slowa Jezusa. Zeby nie bylo, ze wkladam
slowa w panske usta, czy moglby Pan wyraznie napisac jaki, Pana zdaniem,
nalezy wyciagnac wniosek z faktu, ze Jezus tak uczyl. Skoro juz Pan uwazal
za stosowne podac ten fakt do publicznej wiadomosci to chyba z jaks mysla,
czy zupenie bezmyslnie?

>MB

Andrzej Pindor

PS. Nauk Jezusa o 'honornym dawaniu odporu' sobie nie przypominam. Czy mozna
spytac jaki autorytet to zaleca? Z tonu panskiej wypowiedzi gotow jestem
wnioskowac, ze ten ktos przewyzsza w panskim umysle Jezusa, ale moze sie
znow myle?
-- 
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University of Toronto
Computing Services
pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
From: roman@sparc17.hri.com (Roman Budzianowski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: common Polish-German action (was: Nazi Cam
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:47:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: bigbird.7178
Reply-To: roman@sparc17.hri.com (Roman Budzianowski)
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <1992Sep1.204148.14300@sarah.albany.edu>,
pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu writes:

>   I do not know whether you can read Polish but I can assure you that
> Mariusz's irresponsible contributions are criticised (in Polish)
> in this group.  I regret very much that this happend at all.

>                          Pawel Penczek.


Wait ! wait ! Co to ma znaczyc ? Chcesz sie podzielic ta opinia z kims
to wyslij prywatny list. Ja akurat sie nie zgadzam z Mariuszem ale to
powyzej jest zupelnie nie na miejscu. Sprawia wrazenie, ze wystepujesz w
imieniu jakiejs grupy (mowiacych po Polsku). Pisz w swoim imieniu a
krotkie uwagi o charakterze subiektywnym wysylaj prywatnie. W moim
imieniu nie musisz nikogo przepraszac.
From: ziemowit@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Date: 1 Sep 92 09:51:47 EDT
Distribution: world

In article <1992Sep1.134218.519@vms.huji.ac.il>, branley@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
>  pogromy w Kielcach czy Krakowie  nie byly aktem zemsty za represjonowanie
> AK.Zostaly spowodowane strachem ze powracajace niedobitki zazadaja  zwrotu
> swojej wlasnosci...
> 
 O pogromie w Krakowie nie wiem nic, natomiast z tego co przeczytalem w 
polskiej prasie tlo tej tragedii w Kielcach bylo inne. Artykul, ktory
streszczam ponizej opublikowano chyba rok temu w "Polityce", a  napisala go 
dziennikarka wyslana przez jedna gazete do Kielc dzien po pogromie, aby 
zebrala wiadomosci o tych wydarzeniach. Jak napisala na wstepie, byla Zydowka. 
  Otoz zaraz po wojnie w Kielcach zorganizowano osrodek szkoleniowy dla Zydow 
udajacych sie na emigracje do Izraela (wtedy mowiono "Palestyn") i przyuczano 
ich tam do pracy na roli. Pewnego dnia po miescie rozeszla sie idiotyczna 
pogloska, ze owi Zydzi zamordowali chrzescijanskie niemowle, aby jego krew 
dodac do pieczonej macy. Bylo to zaraz po wojnie i ludnosc miala tak 
spustoszona swiadomosc, ze takie wiesci uznano za prawde. Swiadkowie mowili o
dwoch histeryzujacych babach biegajacych po miescie i wykrzykujacych te plotke.
Tlum ruszyl na ulice, gdzie mieszkali Zydzi, zaczeto wybijac szyby w oknach ich
kamienicy, nawolywac do linczu i rzeczywiscie z czasem do niego doszlo. Agresja
ulegla gwaltownej eskalacji gdy na miejsce przyszla liczna grupa robotnikow z 
pobliskiej fabryki. Byli oni uzbrojeni w lomy, lopaty i inne narzedzia i 
wyrozniali sie szczegolnym okrucienstwem. 
  Na ulice przybyli milicjanci i zamiast uspokoic tlum, po chwili przylaczyli 
sie do linczujacych. Potem nadciagnelo  wojsko i zrobilo to samo. Swiadkowie 
mowili o zolnierzu, ktory zastrzelil wyrzucona z okna ciezarna kobiete.
  Oficjalnie oszacowano liczbe zamordowanych w czasie  pogromu na 44, tyle 
pochowano podczas oficjalnego pogrzebu. W pogrzebie uczestniczyli  robotnicy
owej fabryki, ale nie spontanicznie, lecz jakby za kare. Autorka artykulu 
rozmawiala w szpitalu z tymi, co przezyli lincz. Starszy czlowiek z polamanymi 
rekami i obandazowana glowa mowil, ze przezyl Oswiecim, lecz to,  co bylo w 
Kielcach, bylo gorsze.
  Tak wiec w swietle tego artykulu wydaje sie, ze pogrom kielecki nie byl 
ukartowanym dzialaniem, lecz raczej spontaniczna akcja prymitywnego, 
zdezorientowanego i okrutnego tlumu. Ofiary pogromu nie mialy zamiaru 
upominac sie o zadne przejete wlasnosci, lecz po prostu wyjechac do Ziemi 
Obiecanej...
> 
>              Branley,Jerozolima
> 
Ziemowit Oblakowski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: defee@tukkasotka.tut.fi (Irek Defee)
Subject: Re: Antisemitism in Poland.
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:48:10 GMT

In article <dobo.715470755@swalwell> dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz) writes:
>marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>>I just came back from Poland ( I was there for 3 weeks), there is no antisemitism
>>whatsovever in Poland, with the exception of few jokes here and there. As a 
>>matter of fact some of the key people in the Polish governemnt are of Jewish
>This is really funny. When I visited Poland in May, I found the opposite
>to be true. Almost all the economic problems were blamed on Jews; in
>general, the idea of "bij Zyda" was not uncommon.

This is even more funny. When I visited Poland in July, I found totally
opposite to be true. Almost all economic/social problems were blamed on
Solidarity and Catholic Church, the idea of "precz z klechami" was not
uncommon. 

I have not observed even a  single reference to Jews, except press
reports about a festival of Jewish culture in Cracow. Also, quite a few 
people were nostalgic about 'good old communist times` since the main 
problem occupying their brains seemed to be lack of money and fear of 
unemployment.

>Maybe there are two different Polands? Mine included Warsaw.

I heard, however, that nazi skinheads are on increase in Poland too.
Maybe you happened to be close to them?

>W. Dobosiewicz

Irek Defee

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