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	     TA^.P  YOGA  LO*.I  HAY  HA.I ??????.
  

      Hie^.n nay -dang co' mo^.t "di.ch" la` -dua nhau ta^.p YOGA.
Kho^ng bie^'t la` co' lo*.i hay ha.i. Sau -da^y la` y' kie^'n cu?a
Ba'c si~ RoBinMunro thuo^.c trung ta^m YOGA Biomedical Trust (YBT)
cu?a Anh.
			     *    *
				*
   
   Ca'c thie^`n su* nga`y xu*a hay ngo^`i xe^'p ba(`ng cho^'ng hai tay      
va`o go^'i , do^`n ho*i tho*? . ma('t nha('m la.i, -du*a tu* tu*o*?ng     
ve^` co~i xa xu*a, -da^y la` ho. ti`m mo^.t su*. ye^n ti~nh cho ta^m ho^`n 
trong cuo^.c -do*`i tu.c lu.y. Theo ca'c nha` nghie^n cu*'u thi` YOGA
-da~ co' ca'ch -da^y khoa?ng 2000 na(m.Co`n nga`y nay thi` sao.? YOGA
-da~  bie^'n da.ng -di ra^'t nhie^`u, ho. -da~ va^.n du.ng YOGA va`o 
-die^`n kinh va` the^? du.c nhi.p -die^.u. SAu -da^y la` lo*`i thua^.t     
la.i cu?a mo^.t ngu*o*`i ta^.p YOGA.
     
     " Hai na(m tru*o*'c , khi to^i muo^'n cho tinh tha^`n bo*'t ca(ng     
     tha(?ng, muo^'n tha^n the^? kho?a ma.nh (de?o dai), ngu? -du*o*.c
     -da^~y gia^'c , va` nha^'t la` cho kho?i bi.chuo^.t ru't o*? vai
     ne^n to^i -da~ theo mo^.t lo*'p ho.c YOGA . Gia'o vie^n YOGA ba('t 
     to^i cha.y nhu* tho*`i tho* a^'u.....va` sau -do' la` ca'c ba`i
     ta^.p cu?a YOGA: Ngo^`i xe^'p ba(`ng, na(`m, ngu*?a -du*a mo^.t cha^n
     le^n a'p ma(.t, cong ngu*o*`i.....co' lu'c tre^n cong nhu* ca'i va`nh,
     to^i  ta^.p nhu* mo^.t ngu*o*`i -die^n, va` lu'c -do' to^i ra^'t co`n
     hu*o*ng sa('c... Sau mo^.t na(m ru*o*~i to^i co' the^? cong lu*ng ve^`
     phi'a sau, -du*'ng ba(`ng -da^`u va` to^i -da` tro*? tha`nh mo^.t die^~n
     vie^n xie^'c....

	  Va^.y YOGA co' ha.i cha(ng???
	  Ba'c si~ Robin cho bie^'t: Ne^'u ta^.p -du'ng YOGA (kho^ng ne^n
	  uo^'n e'o qu'a) thi` no' se~ giu'p con ngu*o*`i bo*'t ca(ng        
	  tha(?ng tha^`n kinh, va` co' the^? chu*~a mo^.t so^' be^.nh
	  ve^` tim mac.h...
          Ne^'u phu. nu*~ thi` ne^n chu' y' ha~y ta^.p o*? mu*'c -do^. na`o
	  -do' tho^i kho^ng de^~ ma('c chu*'ng be^.nh thoa't vi. be.n va`
	  tra^.t kho*'p.
 
 Ca'i mo^n ta^.p YOGA hie^.n nay (Ta^y Phu*o*ng) -da~ lo^i ke'o -de^'n 80%
 phu. nu*~ , ra^'t -de^~ hie^?u vi` ho. muo^'n co' tha^n hi`nh -de.p.
 O*? trung ta^m YBT cu?a ba'c si~ Robin thi` khi ca'c phu. nu*~ ta^.p YOGA
 -da~ co' mo^.t so^' ma('c be^.nh thoa't vi. be.n va` tra^.t kho*'p, do -do'
 o^ng -da~ na('n la.i ca'c ba`i ta^.p -do*n gia?n ho*n va` mo^.t pho`ng 
 va^.t ly' tri. lie^.u ngu*`a chu*'ng tra^.t kho*'p ba(`ng phu*o*ng pha'p
 massage.

      Ba'c si~ Robin ke^'t lua^n : " Vo*'i ca'c ba.n ga'i thi` YOGA giu'p
      cho ca'c ba.n co' tha^n hi`nh-de.p la` cha('c cha('n, vi` no' ta^.p
      nhu* the^? du.c nhi.p -die^.u nga`y nay. Va` cha('c cha('n cu~ng   
      giu'p ca'c ba.n ma.nh kho?e.

       MUO^'N CO' KE^'T QU?A HA~Y TA^.P YOGA -DU'NG CA'CH CU?A NO'. :-)))))))  

						 
						 Tri'ch mu.c ti`m hie^?u
							       
                                                          Bie^?n Ma(.n.
From: nhi@maggie.cc.uh.edu
Subject: [SONG] Oh Mon Amour -- translation help 
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: nhi@maggie.cc.uh.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:15:57 GMT


Here is the song someone requested.
Some part of it I did not get :-(
Anh chi. nao` tha^'y gi` 0 -du'ng xin su*?a du`m 
va` di.ch ra du`m tie^'ng Vie^.t  hay tie^'ng Anh 

merci nha :-)

**************************************************
Oh Mon Amour 

Elle a des yeux qui voient la mer
a` travers la pluie qui descend
Elle fait des re^ves ou` elle se perd entre les grands nuages blancs
Elle ne sait plus le jour ni l'heure
Elle a des larmes au fond du coeur qui lui font peur

Oh! mon amour! 
E'coute moi, de'ja` la vie t'attend la` bas
non, n'aie pas peur.
il faut me croire 
la vie est belle, me^me sans me'moire
tu sais, je te raconterais, avec le temps , tu comprendras

Elle n'entend pas ce que je dis
et sa mains dans ma main, s'endort
je voudreais e^tre ce pays ou` elle s'en va chercher encore
dans le mirois de son passe'
ce re^ve s'e'tait brise' , un soir d'e'te

Oh mon amour!
Ecoute moi, un autre monde t'attend la` bas 
Non, n'aie pas peur, il faut me croire
LA vie est belle et notre histoire
peut on continuer quand tu voudras
Et tout sera comme autrefois

Oh mon amour!
Ouvre ton coeur, tu m'entendras
Pardonne le mal que je t'ai fait
je ne te quitterai plus jamais
oui, mets ta main dans mas cheveux
je vois des soleils dans tes yeux

Oh mon amour !
Ecoute mois
Un autre vie t'attend la` bas 
(_______? )  m'attend , il faut me croire
Le monde est beau et notre histoire 
Peut on continuer quand on voudras 
Et tu sera comme autre fois



Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tin@smsc.sony.com (Le Tin)
Subject: Re: [POL] Re: DIALOG(Thua^.t hoa`i)
Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp, San Jose, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 03:38:28 GMT

In article <22929@drutx.ATT.COM> kvt@druwa.ATT.COM (KVT) writes:
>Thinh Nguyen  wrote:
>
>In article <1992Dec16.025728.17899@news.media.mit.edu> groucho!thinh@uu.psi.com writes:
># .... 
># It made me sick when one side "liberated" them in 1975 and now the 
># other side who are safely in the US still talking about "liberated" 
># them again.
># ...
># 
># I, and everyone else for that matter, can not say as fact what Vietnamese 
># culture is. I stated that Vietnamese judge people for their intention 
># because that is what I think. If you can express your opinions on various subjects, 
># I am equaly entitle to stated mine. If you think otherwise, then explain so.
># 
># To use a small mistake I made (at this point, I still remember clearly my 
># teacher told me 22 years ago that the two sentences was from NCT to express 
># his bitterness for his up and down carrer but I take anh La^m's word that 
># he is right) to discredit what I said will only show what kind of person 
># you are. This nitpicking is pathetic. It's got nothing remotely to do with 
># the point. You certainly can do much better than this. Have a nice day.
># 
># Thi.nh ngo.c Nguye^~n
>
>
>Reading the above as a whole, I'm glad that Thinh Nguyen showed his 
>contentions on the issues we've been talking about was ONLY HIS OPINIONS,
>therefore not to be contested or jugded as whether they should be taken 
>seriously. We could have saved much typing and reading if he has said
>so much earlier. On the other hand, I start realizing why his "sickness"
>or "tired" has anything to do with these issues. It probably has
>something more to do with his own well-being than anybody else's.
>
>Kim


  Please stay with the issue and stay away from personal attacks.
It had looked like everyone was doing so well too.  Thi.nh and T.Tran
are trying very hard at keeping the discussion at a high level.  They
deserve the courtesy from everyone to do the same.

  We have had problems before when people lose their temper.  If you
feel the need to do so, please keep it off SCV.

  I have created alt.politics.vietnamese.  It may take several days
for the newgroup to get out.  In a few days, if a.p.v does not appear
at your site, please let me know.  I will issue another one.  I have
also created a mailing list, vn-politics that is a gateway to/from
APV for those who can not access the alt newsgroup.

Regards,
Tin Le

-- 
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. Tin Le                    Work Internet: tin@smsc.Sony.COM
. Sony Microsystems
. Office: (408) 944-4157     Other Internet Addr: tin@szebra.Saigon.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "NGUYEN VAN " <NGUYENV@npt.nusc.navy.mil>
Subject: [POEM] Nhi`n Tuye^'t Ro+i  == Repost
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: NGUYENV@npt.nusc.navy.mil
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:19:54 GMT

		Nhi`n Tuye^'t Ro+i

	Ho^m nay buo^`n qu'a -di tho^i
	Nhi`n ra cu+?a so^? tha^'y toa`n tuye^'t ro+i
	Tuye^'t o+i xin tuye^'t ngu+`ng ro+i
	Cho ta nha('n nhu? -do^i lo+i` tuye^'t o+i !

	Ngu+o+`i buo^`n ca?nh cu~ng tu?i ho+`n
	To^i buo^`n ne^n ca?nh cu~ng buo^`n theo to^i !
	Ngo^`i -da^y nho+' chuye^.n xa xo^i
	Mo+ ve^` ky? nie^.m mo^.t tho+`i xa xu+a

	Nhu+~ng nga`y tha'ng Ta'm tro+`i mu+a
	Ngu+o+`i ye^u da.o pho^' be^'n bo+` vo+'i to^i
	Ba^y gio+` ngu+o+`i -da~ xa to^i
	Ngo^`i nhi`n tuye^'t -do^? buo^`n o+i la` buo^`n

                                             12/92

					    Xua^n Va(n


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: hdong@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Hai Dong)
Subject: test from me
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: hdong@ucselx.sdsu.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:00:31 GMT

Sorry, testing only folks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyen@turing.scs.carleton.ca (H.H. Nguyen)
Subject: Re: POEM (DDO^'I)
Organization:  Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:29:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.163442.17060@dvorak.amd.com> myt@bali.amd.com (My Tran) writes:
>>>	Quang, you must be joking, I hope. I'm still waiting for the
>>>essay on the Japanese poetry, part III, promised a long time ago :-)))
>>
>>>	Long wait, eh. Or maybe I've missed the posting ?
>>
>>Hmmm, H.H. 
>>When you get a promise from woman you should hope, not wait for. :-)
>>
>>Tha^n,
>>Quang Le -  with a long list of hopes.
>>
>>>	H.H. Nguyen
>>>
>>>
>
>Hello everyones,
>
	..........
>
>When you get a promise from a man, you better forget about it
>and go for plan B. :):)
>
	............
>
>My -  With plenty of plans B :):)
>
>
>P.S:  Ddu`a cho"i tho^i, mong anh ddu"`ng buo^`n.




	How about,

	When you have to "wait long" and/or carry a "long list of hopes" 
and "plenty of plans B," you tend to be philosophical :-))

	Regards,
	H.H. Nguyen - trying to be compromising :-)

Disclaimer: Me, poetry ? No way !


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: ddnguyen@crchh25.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Doug Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [POL] DIALOG (DDie^.n Bie^n Phu?)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:13:32 GMT

I say that if you are those people supporting Vietnam's idependence
Then You got it. Stay there and do not come here as an economic refugee.
From: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: NEWS/VN: VN hands over remains of US soldiers
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:52:16 GMT
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


12/15

VIETNAM HANDS OVER REMAINS OF U.S. SOLDIERS

    By Bill Tarrant
    HANOI, Dec 15, Reuter - Vietnam on Tuesday handed over to the U.S. military
the remains of Americans killed at least two decades ago, as the old foes try 
to bury the bitter legacy of the Indochina war.
    American servicemen put eight wooden boxes inside metal caskets in a solemn
ceremony on the tarmac of Hanoi's Noi Bai international airport.
    Watched by a few Vietnamese officials, an American honour guard 
representing the army, navy, air force and marines placed a folded U.S. flag, 
wrapped in plastic, on each of the caskets before loading them onto a C-141 
cargo plane.
    "The Vietnamese don't like us to display the American flag in their
country," said army Lieutenant Colonel David Fredrikson, public affairs 
director of a military Joint Task Force Full Accounting (JTFFA) in Hawaii.
    Washington has refused to open diplomatic ties with Hanoi. But on Monday it
announced it was easing the economic embargo imposed on Hanoi in 1964 by
allowing American firms to open offices and hire staff in Vietnam.
    Fredrikson said the flags would be draped over the caskets once the plane
was on its way to Guam and then to Hawaii.
    Vietnamese officials said the boxes contained the bones, teeth, clothing or
other personal belongings of 20 soldiers found over the last few weeks by joint
U.S.-Vietnamese search teams or handed over by villagers to Hanoi officials.
    "It is extremely rare to find even an almost complete set of remains,"
Fredrikson said.
    U.S. military doctors who examined the remains in Hanoi last weekend said
they were confident they would be able to identify at least 10 sets once they
got back to the U.S. army's Central Identification Laboratory in Honolulu.
    The handover ceremony had been planned for weeks.
    The White House said it relaxed its embargo due to Vietnam's increased
cooperation in determining the fate of Americans unaccounted for from the
Vietnam War, which ended in 1975.
    "We welcome the news and it is an encouraging gesture," Ho Xuan Dich, head
of the Vietnamese Missing-In-Action (MIA) office, told Reuters before handing
the wooden boxes to U.S. army Lieutenant-Colonel Jack Donovan, who heads a U.S.
MIA office in Hanoi.
    "But the U.S. side must go further," Dich said, adding that Hanoi and
Washington could resolve the MIA issue faster if the United States normalised
relations.
    Fredrikson said Vietnam's decision to open its archives to U.S. experts had
been a breakthrough, although belated.
    Dich said Vietnam had handed over a total of 404 sets of remains, including
those on Tuesday, since 1973. Fredrikson said only 270 sets had been identified.
    "You sometimes get a commingling of remains. It's not uncommon to get 
animal remains," he said.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "JFT@NCCIBM1.BITNET"                      <JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: ** NASA, or OTHER AERONAUTICAL TYPES **
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:14:44 GMT

Hi,

  I have a friend (no really!) that claims to have some
break through idea on three dimensional flight?  Ability to
make 90 degree turns or change direction from one direction
to any other.  I don't know about this stuff and he seems
pretty sure about how revolutionary his idea is.  Can anyone
recommend some publication or book that covers these theories
so I can show him he is not the first to think about this?

  If his idea is really new and worth something what should
he do?  Send his idea to BOEING?  NASA?  How can he protect
his idea?

 Thanks,

Tua~'n.
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From: ho_bt@cs2.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: personal
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:24:03 GMT

hi, i'm from Beaumont. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: ktdo@eos.ncsu.edu (TK)
Subject: testing
Originator: ktdo@c00350-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: testing
Reply-To: ktdo@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: VSA@ncsu
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:32:40 GMT


Please ignore.
From: le@itro7s.aero.org (Thach Le)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [tho+] De^m Phu+o+ng Ba('c ..., cu?a TMH (-Di'nh chi'nh)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 06:40:59 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: itro7s.aero.org
Originator: le@itro7s

-Di'nh Chi'nh:

Ca^u cuo^'i: 

	To^? quo^'c, xin Ngu+o+`i -danh thu+'c nie^`m -dau

ne^n -du+o+.c -do.c la`:

	To^? quo^'c, xin Ngu+o+`i -da'nh thu+'c ca? nie^`m -dau


Tha`nh tha^.t xin lo^~i ba.n -do.c. Thach.


-------------------------------------------------
Toa`n ba`i -da(ng la.i:

	-De^m phu+o+ng Ba('c nho+' ve^` To^? quo^'c

			-- Tra^`n Ma.nh Ha?o

	Mo^. ma`u tra('ng ro+.n ngu+o+`i da^n to^.c to^i chu+a bie^'t
	-Dang -do^'i cho.i ga('t gao vo+'i ma`u than -de^m
	No^~i nho+' to^i xin nha^.p va`o ba~o tuye^'t
	Bay qua nu+o+'c Nga, vu+o+.t Trung Hoa gi'o ba^'c
	Mu+a phu`n -de^m nay co' tho^?i ra't ma(.t Ngu+o+`i
	To^? quo^'c o+i .
	
	Nu+?a nu+o+'c to^i gio+` na`y cuo^'n trong ro+m ra.
	Bie^?n da. da`y co^`n so'ng Tha'i Bi`nh Du+o+ng
	Tie^'ng mo.t nghie^'n de^m ke`o nha` -do'i vo~ng
	Tu+` -di?nh cao ta^.p bu+o+'c xuo^'ng -do+`i thu+o+`ng
	-Da^'t nu+o+'c to^i thuye^`n vo? tra^'u vo+`n  -di?nh so'ng
	So^' pha^.n ngu+o+`i neo va`o bo'ng Tru+o+`ng So+n .

	Cha(?ng le~ kho^ng co`n con -du+o+`ng na`o ye^n la`nh ho+n
	Ngoa`i mo^.t lo^'i vu+o+.t -da' nga^`m do^ng ba~o ?
	Tro+`i ma('t e^'ch -da'y gie^'ng na`o ke^u nga.o
	To^? quo^'c to^i na(`m o+? -da^u 
	Tre^n mu`a ga(.t -di.a ca^`u ?
	Ngu+o+`i ca`y xo+'i ba(`ng xu+o+ng su+o+`n la^'y ma'u mi`nh gieo ha.t
	Nu+'t ne? ve^'t cha^n co`, cha^n va.c toa.c -do^`ng sa^u .

	Loa tha`nh o+i, ai lu+o+`ng ga.t My. Cha^u ?
	Da^'u lo^ng ngo^~ng ti`nh xu+a co`n tra('ng to'c
	To^? quo^'c to^i -dau ma` kho^ng da'm kho'c
	Hoa cau cu+o+`i nho`e nhoe.t ao' na`ng Ba^n .

	-Da^u no^?i nho+' nha` -du+'t ruo^.t Huye^`n Tra^n
	-Da^u To^? quo^'c cu?a na`ng Kie^`u Kim Tro.ng ?
	The^' gio+'i na`y qua' ro^.ng
	Nhu+ng no^~i nho+' thu+o+ng chi? mo^.t cho^~ -di ve^`
	Chi? no+i me. mo` cua bu`n la.nh co'ng
	Lu+?a -do'i lo`ng di`m bo'ng me. va`o -de^m
	Chi? mo^.t cho^~ em qua -do` vi.n so'ng
	Tra(ng xo`a tay du+`a ngo'ng mo'ng cha^n the^`m .

	-De^m ai ha't to^i nghe qua nu+?a vo`ng tra'i -da^'t
	-De^m tro be^'p que^ hu+o+ng ma^`m lu+?a ma. hoen ma`u
	Nghe gio' ba^'c go.i ma(.t tro+`i xa khua^'t
	To^? quo^'c, xin Ngu+o+`i -da'nh thu+'c ca? nie^`m -dau .

----------------
tri'ch "Tra(m hoa va^~n no+? tre^n que^ hu+o+ng", nxb Le^ Tra^`n, 1990.

[ Tra^`n Ma.nh Ha?o la` nha` tho+ co`n o+? trong nu+o+'c, tu+`ng -du+o+.c
nhie^`u ba'o chi' ha?i ngoa.i nha('c -de^'n, qua truye^.n da`i "Ly Tha^n".

Theo to^i hie^?u ba`i tho+ tre^n, thi si~ than cho pha^.n nu+o+'c va`
pha^.n mi`nh, mang ta^'m lo`ng ye^u que^ hu+o+ng theo Co^.ng sa?n, nhu+ng
gio+` hie^?u ra va` -dau kho^? la` mi`nh -da~ bi. lu+o+`ng ga.t. The^? 
hie^.n ro~ nha^'t trong bo^'n ca^u:

	Loa tha`nh o+i, ai lu+o+`ng ga.t My. Cha^u
	Da^'u lo^ng ngo^~ng ti`nh xu+a co`n tra('ng to'c
	To^? quo^'c to^i -dau ma` kho^ng da'm kho'c
	Hoa cau cu+o+`i nhoe` nhoe.t ao' na`ng Ba^n

						-- Thach. ]
From: tnguyen@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: RE:POEM - ddo^'i cu`ng Ho`a (Vo.ng khuye^'t Thi Lang)
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:25:21 GMT
Reply-To: tnguyen@elroy.dev.cdx.mot.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


Ho`a (Vo.ng khuye^'t Thi Lang)
  tha'ch ddo^'i : Mo^.t ngu+o+`i mo^.t bo'ng
                           o^m dda^'t tro+`i va`o di~ va~ng
       
                   Nha(`m nho` chi.........
                
                  Va.n ngu+o+`i va.n khi'
                          vu+o+.t vu~ tru. va`o tu+o+ng lai...


ca` muo^'i.
From: jessica@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Jessica Lu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Test
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:17:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.9.13


This is a test.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: quangl@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Quang Le)
Subject: Re: alt.politics.vietnamese (was [POL] Re: DIALOG(Thua^.t hoa`i))
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:08:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.141436.4273@ccd.harris.com> dht@controls.ccd.harris.com (Danh Tran) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.033828.18873@smsc.sony.com> tin@smsc.sony.com (Le Tin) writes:
>>
>>  I have created alt.politics.vietnamese.  It may take several days
>>for the newgroup to get out.  In a few days, if a.p.v does not appear
>>at your site, please let me know.  I will issue another one.  I have
>>also created a mailing list, vn-politics that is a gateway to/from
>>APV for those who can not access the alt newsgroup.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Tin Le
>>
>
>When was the voting for this proposal newgroup (alt.politics.vietnamese)
>taken place?  I believe that to creating a newgroup, you must announce it
>on news.announce.newgroup with the charter and format of the group.  The
>voting will then start.  The group can only be created when there is enough 
>"YES" vote.  Reading the news.announce.newgroups, I have not seen any proposal
>for a.p.v.
>
>In my opinion, we should not separate politics from SCV.  If someone doesn't
>like it, (s)he can always use the "n" key.   Beside the # of articles on 
>political discussion on SCV is not that many.  Imagine what would happen to
>the group if we separate politics, news, poem, story, etc.. from SCV.
>
>Danh Tran
>
>

Hi, Danh
For alt. hierarchy newsgroup, you don't need formal discussions and voting
process to create one, but it depends on local system administrators to add it 
in and relay it to neighbor machines. alt (alternative) groups are sometimes created just by someone just becuase they failed the formal process. Many sites don't support alt. newsgroups because they are so abundant. Even your system admin. may not support scv if he wants, but he least likely to do so because of politically correct stuff. There are many alt. newsgroups just to talk about a politician or a TV show... so maybe it is time to start an alt.ddo^ng-ta` newsgroup :-) :-)

Tha^n,
Quang Le
PS. Nothing is wrong with politics, but the way they are discussed.
If we have two newsgroups we might have double numbers of flames. It is pretty
undesirable.

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From: nguyet@wam.umd.edu ((Gone With The Wind))
Subject: Tho* Chie^u` Buo^n` - repost
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:50:40 GMT

				Chie^u\ Buo^n\


       		Chie^u\ tan hoc. a^m tha^m\ to^i dde^m' bu*o*c'
		Tre^n con ddu*o*ng\ phu? dda^y\ la' me bay
		La' co' hay ta^m ho^n\ to^i ddo*n lanh.
		Nghe bo^i\ ho^i\ tu*ng\ nhip. bu*o*c' ddo*n co^i

	To^i va^n~ ddi, ddi hoai\, ddi mai~
	DDi a^m tha^m\, kho^ng ke~ ddon' ngu*o*i\ ddu*a
	Ngu*o*i\ xu*a to^i ba^y gio*\ dda^u con\ nu*a?
	Co' con\ cha(ng la\ hinh\ bong' giu*a? tim tho^i

		Vi\ ngu*o*i\ a^y' dda~ bo? to^i ddi ro^i\
		Vao\ mo^t. chie^u\ co' nhie^u\ la' me ro*i
		Bo? to^i lai. kho^ng ngu*o*i\ ddu*a ke? ddon'
		DDe^? a^m tha^m\ to^i dde^m' bu*o*c' ddo*n co^i

	Bong' cua? to^i trai? dai\ tre^n he\ pho^'
	Ao' pha^t' pho* trong gio' cuo^n' tung bay
	DDo^i ma(t' nho? cho*t. buo^n\ khi chie^u\ dde^n'
	Khi ddi ve^\ qua lo^i' cu? the^nh thang

		La' me bay hoai\, bay mai~
		Kho^ng chiu. ngu*ng\ trong khoanh? kha(c' tho*i\ gian
		La' bie^t' cha(ng long\ to^i u*o*c' me^nh mang
		Mong la' hay? ddu*ng\ bay, ddu*ng\ bay nu*a? ...

					 NH
					3/86
From: dangt@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Dang Thanh Ngan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re:  [MISC] Ca^u -do^'...
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:43:54 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

>        [del stufs]
>>	Ngu+o+`i Vie^.t mi`nh no'i:
>>
>>	Anh em nhu+ thu? tu'c
>>	Vo+. cho^`ng nhu+ ao' ma.c ngoa`i da 
>>	Ma^'t tay cha^n kho^ng the^? thay the^' ddu+o+.c 
>>
>


        Ca'c cu. nga`y xu*a du` sao ddi nu*~a cu~ng co' sai la^`m 
chu*', vi` nga`y xu*a dda`n ba` con ga'i la` "nu*~ sinh ngoa.i to^.c"
dda`n o^ng thi` ddu*o*.c quye^`n na(m the^ ba?y thie^'p. Hmmm, theo 
bum thi` ai cu~ng la` tha^n nha^n cu?a mi`nh. Co`n vu. ro*'t xuo^'ng
nu*o*'c vo*'t ai tru*o*'c thi` ca^u tra? lo*`i cu?a bum la`, ai ga^`n nha^'t
thi` vo*'t ngu*o*`i ddo' tru*o*'c, cu*'u ng` ma`, ho^?ng le~ ba.n quye^'t ddi.nh
cu*'u cha ba.n khi cha ba.n o*? tha^.t xa, vo*. ba.n o*? ke^' be^n, ho^?ng le~
bo? vo*. cu?a ba.n o*? ddo' ma` bo*i ddi cu*'u cha ?, cu*'u ng` thi` cu*'u
ddu*o*.c ai thi` cu*'u tru*o*'c . B-)))

   Va`i gio`ng y' kie^'n B-))))


Bum

PS : co`n ne^'u 0 bie^'t bo*i thi` xem ai bie^'t bo*i nha?y xuo^'ng
cho^~ ngu*o*`i ddo' B-)) dde^? "ngu*o*`i ddo' cu*'u"

B-)))

Have a good day 
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