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From: ai065@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thomas Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: NOTICE:"Bigfoot/Sasquatch" Sightings Request
Date: 14 Sep 1992 02:58:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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   Our research group is currently investigating reports and sightings of the
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From: dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu (David Mark)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Question: Schedules for Monterey Bay, California, November 1992
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:09:53 GMT
Organization: UB

Can someone please send me the names and telephone numbers of people or
organizations that may be running pelagic birding trips in Monterey Bay
or nearby points in November this year.  Better yet would be a schedule,
especially for November 7-14 1992, when I will be (mostly) attending a
conference in San Jose.  I have never seen an Ashy Storm-Petrel, which
I gather should be quite likely there at that time.  Lastly, information
about other ways to get out on the Bay (whale watching? fishing trips?)
with a reasonable chance to see Ashy S-P would be appreciated.

Thanks!

David Mark
dmark@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Need help spotting an owl
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:40:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <pel.30.714877000@resntl.bhp.com.au>, pel@resntl.bhp.com.au writes:
> In article <5151@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tirone@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Steve Tirone) writes:
> One way is to go out at night with a tape recording of owl calls and get the 
> bird to come to you. Be aware though that some people consider this practice 
> to be unnecessarily stressful to the birds (and I guess, their prey).
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      I have seen this work very well. On a ranch near San Simeon CA, for 
      the last several years, playing a tape will attract two horned owls
      to within a few feet of the tape recorder and people.

      The tape was hoots, and some prey bird screeching its last.
      Kinda gruesome, but it worked like a charm.
From: sjm1@ra.msstate.edu (Sarah J. McKinley)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Parrots in Austin,TX
Summary: monk parrot colony in Austin
Keywords: monk parrots
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:59:47 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

While in Austin, Texas this weekend, I saw a small colony of green and
gray (monk?) parrots in a city park.  Although I only saw 3 - 4 birds
at a time, I got the impression that they were quite successful there.

Does anyone have any cool stories about accidentals in their area?
What would a parrot eat in South Texas?

It was really a remarkable site to see these loud, emerald green birds
out of a cage.

sjm1@isis.msstate.edu
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From: burhans@teal.csn.org (Jackie Burhans)
Subject: Re: Hunting in the US and Canada
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:25:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.052949.20896@u.washington.edu> toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw) writes:
>In article <BuH7y7.I4E@zoo.toronto.edu> rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising) writes:
>>including any passerines, which are the hosts of cowbirds), including
>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Wrong.  Crows may be shot in most if not all states, and magpies
>are legal at least here in Washington.  Red-winged blackbirds

What is the thinking behind this? Are these birds considered to be
pests? Are they felt to be expendable? or is it just because they
are so common (ubiquitous, numerous (cf. the common passenger pigeon))?
I'm bummed cuz Red-winged blackbirds are a particular favorite of mine.



-- 
Jackie Burhans
Technical Trainer
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:27:51 EDT
From: <PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Norwegian "news"

Tusen takk, Christer, for the Norwegian news.  I'd rather be there to see
the birds (and beautiful Norway) myself, but reading your posting is better
than nothing!

To those of you who have never been to Norway, save your pennies.  It's the
most wonderful place I know.  Can't wait to get back there.

Paula
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From: burhans@teal.csn.org (Jackie Burhans)
Subject: Re: Hunting in the US and Canada
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:41:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.194034.4168@u.washington.edu> toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw) writes:
>
>>I'm bummed cuz Red-winged blackbirds are a particular favorite of mine.
>
>I'm sure if you offered to pay the Louisiana rice farmer for his/her
>crop losses, the RWBs would be spared. 

Indeed if I knew any, I might. I don't suppose there is any organized
effort to do this sort of thing is there? I did buy (lease?) a prairie
pothole for a year through an organization that was written about
in Birder's World. The idea was to pay money to farmers with prairie
potholes to leave them and not plow them under for planting. Birds could
use them instead. Worked for me.

>Hunters figured this out
>long ago, and some of the best goose and duck hunting in the
>U.S. is on land leased from farmers who suddenly don't mind
>having a few thousand geese in their cornfields.  It's ironic that
>anti-hunting groups will protest a legal sporting hunt, but not
>spend a dime to compensate farmers for crop damage to prevent relatively
>indiscriminate mass killings by poison, detergents, etc.  It's even
>more ironic when the antis, like Andrew Taylor, enjoy sport fishing
>(you mean *enjoyed* dragging a helpless trout from the security
>of his home in the rushing water, *thrilled* to his fruitless
>struggle for freedom with that sharp metal tearing at his
>delicate mouth, and *admired* his beauty as he lay suffocating
>in the creel...)

Generalizations and off-track subjects can be ironic too. Thank
you for answering my questions.

-- 
Jackie Burhans
Technical Trainer
From: sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Question: Schedules for Monterey Bay, California, November 1992
Date: 8 Sep 1992 11:09:18 GMT
Organization: TMC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <Bu5r8H.3uK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu (David Mark) writes:
|> Can someone please send me the names and telephone numbers of people or
|> organizations that may be running pelagic birding trips in Monterey Bay
|> or nearby points in November this year.  Better yet would be a schedule,
|> especially for November 7-14 1992, when I will be (mostly) attending a
|> conference in San Jose.  I have never seen an Ashy Storm-Petrel, which
|> I gather should be quite likely there at that time.  

   Debi Shearwater
   Shearwater Journeys
   PO Box 1445
   Soquel CA 95073  (408) 688-1990
Unfortunately, she doesn't have anything scheduled during that week, and I
don't know offhand of anyone else (I could look it up in the Jan 92 issue
of Winging It but so can you.)

|> Lastly, information
|> about other ways to get out on the Bay (whale watching? fishing trips?)
|> with a reasonable chance to see Ashy S-P would be appreciated.

Lots of fishing boats, though your chances of getting S-P are not very good.
Ask Debi to recommend you a captain and you can discuss it with him. She
uses a fishing boat for her trips and some of her captains know all about
birds.

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation
Cambridge, Mass 02142                                 (617) 234-5044
From: toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Hunting in the US and Canada
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:29:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <BuH7y7.I4E@zoo.toronto.edu> rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising) writes:
>All native birds are protected in North America by international
>treaties.  Still there are hunting seasons for some species (not
>including any passerines, which are the hosts of cowbirds), including
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wrong.  Crows may be shot in most if not all states, and magpies
are legal at least here in Washington.  Red-winged blackbirds
are shot legally in Louisiana and are commonly used as bait
for alligator trapping.  No depredation permit is required for
crows or magpies, and anyone may shoot them (not just the
landowner).

Toby Bradshaw
Department of Biochemistry and College of Forest Resources
University of Washington, Seattle
toby@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.birds
From: toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw)
Subject: Re: Hunting in the US and Canada
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:52:16 GMT

In article <Bun8H8.H1q@csn.org> burhans@teal.csn.org (Jackie Burhans) writes:
>Indeed if I knew any, I might. I don't suppose there is any organized
>effort to do this sort of thing is there? I did buy (lease?) a prairie
>pothole for a year through an organization that was written about
>in Birder's World. The idea was to pay money to farmers with prairie
>potholes to leave them and not plow them under for planting. Birds could
>use them instead. Worked for me.

I don't know of a "save the redwings" movement.  I doubt many people
know about depredation permits, anyhow.  "Private" compensation
has been used in Montana to cover ranchers' livestock killed
by wolves (can't remember the name of the group who made
the payments), in order to persuade the ranchers not to
shoot wolves or press for government control of wolves.
When a rancher found a wolf kill, the group would be called
in to view the kill and write a check.  Evidently,
ranchers would call in a lot of dead cattle with nothing more
than coyote tracks around them, but the wolf lovers paid up
anyhow after pointing out that those "wolf" tracks looked
a little small.

Ducks Unlimited has purchased prairie sloughs and potholes for many,
many years, with benefits for "non-ducks", too.  Disclaimer:
I'm not a DU member, but like their work.

Toby Bradshaw
Department of Biochemistry and College of Forest Resources
University of Washington, Seattle
toby@u.washington.edu
From: meridiem@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jill Engel)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Parrots in Austin,TX
Keywords: monk parrots
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:20:20 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Sarah J. McKinley writes:
>While in Austin, Texas this weekend, I saw a small colony of green and
>gray (monk?) parrots in a city park.  Although I only saw 3 - 4 birds
>at a time, I got the impression that they were quite successful there.

When I lived in Austin (1984-1989), I saw these birds on occasion.  I seem
to remember they were really starting to get going around the time I was 
leaving.  The Austin paper ran an article and such and people would go out
and try and spot them.  I saw them on the University of Texas campus and
they competed quite well with the notorius grackles for noise.  (Boy, talk
about a bird population problem, the U of Texas grackles are horrible,
smelly, noisy birds..  beware the large sqwauking oak trees on campus!)

Anyhow..  the wild parrots are neat.  I'm glad to know they're still doing 
well in Austin.  What a great town.

								 jill


*  Jill Engel (Anne Meridiem)  * "If the world were a logical place, *
* meridiem@lamar.colostate.edu *  men would ride side-saddle."       *
*                              *                    --Rita Mae Brown * 
Xref: sparky rec.birds:1476 sci.bio:3100
From: eb3@world.std.com (Edwin Barkdoll)
Newsgroups: rec.birds,sci.bio
Subject: Re: Radio tracking of birds: help me!
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:36:45 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <AA2VwcgSX2@matsim.udmurtia.su> eco@matsim.udmurtia.su writes:
>I'm very interested in radio tracking of passerine birds, but I have no
>experience in this field. What transmitters and receivers I need? Where
>can I buy it? And many other questions ...
>Can any help me?
>
>Yours,
>Alex Stashenko (Udmurt State University, Russia)


	By "radio tracking" I assume you mean radiotelemetry.  Radar
has also been used to observe various birds -- passerines, shorenirds,
hawks...
	The book _Flight strategies of migrating hawks_ by Paul
Kerlinger (1980), The University of Chicago Press, ISBN 0-226-43167-3
has a technical section which includes a discussion of radiotelemetry
and points to various journal references which would have technical
particulars.

-- 
Edwin Barkdoll
eb3@world.std.com
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From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Do crickets chirp for the same reason birds sing?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:36:51 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

I realize that this is not exactly a bird question, but
I did not find a newsgroup for insects. (Just think
insects have been around for over 200 million years and
they don't have their own newsgroup :-)

Do crickets chirp for the same reason that birds sing?
As I understand it, birds sing to warn others not to get
too close to them.  They do not sing to be pretty, as some people
believe.


-- 
Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
From: jhiggott@axion.bt.co.uk (Jeff Higgott)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: UK news
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:41:52 GMT
Reply-To: jhiggott@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs
Organisation: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH UK

EuroBirdNet			UK-92-23       7 September 1992

A juvenile WESTERN SANDPIPER (Calidris mauri) was found at Wexford, SE
Ireland at the end of last week.  It was still present yesterday.  For those 
who are thinking of twitching it, I heard that Steve Whitehouse got there 
(Worcs->Fishguard->Rosslare->Wexford(taxi)) and back for around 20 pounds.
There is also a FORSTER'S TERN (Sterna forsteri) nearby.

SCARLET ROSEFINCHES (Carpodacus erythrinus) were confirmed breeding in England
for the first time this year.  At least five pairs bred in one small area of
Humberside, and one pair in Suffolk.  There were doubtless more pairs
elsewhere.


Jeff...

  "I bought some batteries but they weren't included" 
           -Steven Wright
From: rogers@anthro.utah.edu (Alan R. Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: no-waste feeder
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:35:45 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center

I'm looking for a sun-flower seed feeder that will minimize the mess
that collects below it.  The Duncraft mail order catalog advertizes a "No-Waste"
feeder that has special ports to catch discarded seed and hulls, and a deep tray
to hold these discards.  Has anyone had experience with this or any similar
feeder?   

-- 
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Dept. of Anthropology           HOME PHONE   : (801) 486-6013
Univ. of Utah                   INTERNET: rogers@anthro.utah.edu
Salt Lake City, UT 84112, USA
From: dna@boltzman.uoregon.edu (johnny powell)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Leadbetter NWR in Sept 91
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:24:08 GMT
Reply-To: dna@boltzman.uoregon.edu
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services


Does anyone know why the number of species at Leadbetter is so low this  
year.  Did I already miss the migration, has it not gone through yet, or  
are the tweet-tweets resting elsewhere?

johnny
Newsgroups: rec.birds
From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
Subject: Re: Cooper's sighting in Miss.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:46:46 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Sep12.051043.16380@u.washington.edu>
toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw) writes:
>> [ Bill Venables write ]
>>You mean that in the US it's legal to hunt native birds?  That's amazing.
>
>About as amazing as hunting native mammals, like kangaroos, in Oz.

No hunting of native mammals is permitted for recreational purposes
in Australia. Killing of some species, particularly the large kangaroos,
is permitted to reduce agricultural damage.

>>Here in Australia you are only allowed to shoot a very few species of very
>>common ducks

Hunting of two or three quail species is allowed in some Australian states
and there is (or was) a Japanese Snipe season in Qld. but there is not
much hunting of any of these. There is also a harvest of Short-Tailed (?)
Shearwater chicks on the Bass Strait Islands.

It looks like duck hunting will disappear in Australia. Its already been
banned in WA (I believe) and although moves to have it banned in the Eastern
states have so far failed the number of duck hunters in these states has
declined greatly. Personally, I'm proud to be a "subversive anti-hunter" who
has played a small part in the removal of this disgusting sport from Australia.

Andrew Taylor
From: psjmt@frodo.cc.flinders.edu.au (<J.Tizard> Psychology x2420)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Birds that are also Mammals
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:52:02 GMT
Organization: Flinders University

In article <183878INNjd5@early-bird.think.com> sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee) writes:
>In article <BtytD0.88K@zoo.toronto.edu>, rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising) writes:
>|> Apparently there is also work in progress to try to study the genes of
>|> the extinct Elephant Bird of Madagascar.  With new molecular techniques
>|> using PCR to amplify a the c-sections of mtDNA it has been possible to
>|> get information on the biochemical relationships of some extinct species
>|> (e.g. the Quagga)--and maybe the elephant bird will turn out to be
>|> another bird introgressed with a few mammalian genes!
>
>But this research should not be restricted to extinct species ! It might
>shed light on the ancestry of the Catbird, the Cowbirds, and the Tiger-Heron ;
>and why stick to Mammalia ? Other classes might be of just as much interest,
>witness the Snake-Eagle (Circaetus sp.), the Serpent-Eagle (Spilornis sp.),
>and the Fish-Eagle (Haliaeetus sp.) (boy, those eagles are a mixed bunch).
>And, looking outside the Vertebrates, what about the curious similarity of
>Grasshopper Warbler and Grasshopper Sparrow ? and the Common Cicadabird,
>and the Antwren, and the Gnatwren ? not to mention the Snail Kite ?
>
>Daan Sandee                                           sandee@think.com
>Thinking Machines Corporation
>Cambridge, Mass 02142                                 (617) 234-5044

Leaving the frightening antecedents of the Zebra Finch aside, I feel that
this discussion is becoming distinctly phylum-ist. Due consideration
should also be given to  Grassbirds, Reed Warblers, Fruit Pigeons,
Corn Bunting, Corncrake etc etc etc

PS Flinders is a very ornithological campus. I just saw an Australian Hobby 
whilst typing this, and on the way over from another building I was
almost bitten on the leg by an angry (wild) wood duck protecting her brood.
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From: mhm104@access.digex.com (Mitch Markowitz)
Subject: Proper Cockatiel Diet
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:16:07 GMT

     I have received much advice on proper diets for cockatiels but would be interested in what some of you other cockatiel owners have found to be most successful.  Please respond either on net or to me personally.  Thanks.



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From: christea@dhhalden.no (CHRISTER ANDR JAKOBSEN)
Subject: Norwegian "news"
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:33:56 GMT

Here's what i've got of information on the latest rarities in Norway, if 
anybody is interested.
August
1.-2. American / Pacific Golden Plover, Brunlanes, Oestfold.
3. Aquatic Warbler, 1 ex. ringed and 3 ex. ringed 29.8. at Lista, Vest Agder.
4. Cory's Shearwater, Egersund, Rogaland.
7. White-winged Black Tern, Lista.
Primo Aug. Surf Scoter, South Troendelag.
16.-17. Greenish Warbler, Utsira, Rogaland.
15.-16. Egret Heron, Roest, Nordland.
14. First Norwegian report of Olivaceous Warbler, Lista.
15. Pink-Backed pelican, Otra, Vest Agder (B-list).
23. Citrine Wagtail, Jaeren, Rogaland.
4. September, Montagu's Harrier, Utsira, Rogaland.

Christer
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Owls and other birds in Baja California.
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:06:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


  I recently spent a couple weeks surfing at Punta San Jacinto,
a right point about 3 hours south of Ensenada.

  The recent thread on owls reminded me that I saw a lot of 
wildlife in general and birds in particular. I didn't bring
any bird identification books, but I should have.

  What looked like Burrowing Owls to me were fairly common,
although I didn't see the huge mounds that I see at Shoreline
Park here in Mtn. View, CA. Maybe somebody knows different?

  Roadrunners were also common and I hadn't seen these before,
The lizards down there were faster and smaller then the ones 
commonly found in the foothills here. 
For the cartoon-associating inclined, we heard plenty
of coyotes in the evening but never saw a one. 

  I also saw

  Northern Harrier(s)

  Black Shouldered Kite.

  Merlin.

  Brown Pelicans by the millions. They fish from dawn till dusk, non-stop.

  A couple varieties of cormarants were numerous, although I didn't see
  them popping up with fish while I was surfing like I usually do when
  in Santa Cruz. They roosted on the shipwreck at the tip of the point.

  A western grebe was also out with us a lot. Didn't see any of the
  gigantic loons that I see while surfing up here.

  I also noted a yellowlegs-style wader bird with extra long 
  straight bill, dark or black for one half its length (at the end).
  That should be easy to identify, but I haven't done it.

  Although this is rec.birds, I have to mention the Kangaroo Rats.
  They number in the billions as far as I can tell. They have huge
  nocturnal style eyes, but that doesn't stop them from hopping 
  directly into your legs when you are near a camp fire or 
  bouncing off your tent walls all night.
  And for every kangaroo rat, there are 2 mice. I didn't see 
  any rattlers, but they had to be out there. Scorpions
  reportedly don't get common until further south.
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