From: s902211@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Zoran Kalenic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: WHO'S THE BIGGER NAZI?
Date: 5 Sep 92 07:57:48 GMT


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rdc@netcom.com (Rachel Dafni Christy) writes:

>TODAY, THE SERBIANS ARE ACTING LIKE
>THE NAZI'S KILLING THE CROATIANS.
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s902211@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Zoran Kalenic) writes:

"One of Hitler's generals, Lothar Rendilic, who was in the area where the crimes
were committed, estimated that in the first year of the existence of the puppet
state of Croatia at least a half million Orthodox Serbs were massacred, and
that many others were killed in subsequent years." Gekaempft Gesiegt Geschlagen
(Heidelberg, 1952), pp. 161-62.

Mr Matic, if you can really compare such a holocaust with those events in
ex-yu, then you are one sick person.. that explains the puke.  My initial point
was that there is no comparison.
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dmatic@athena.mit.edu (Davor Matic) writes:

Being Nazi is is not determined by how many poeple you have massacred, but
your philosophy, attitudes and actions towards people, especially your
minorities.  If you had the military power that Nazis had in WWII, there 
is no doubt in my mind that you would have liquidated more than 2 milion
people, and you would'n stop even there, in order to establish youg "Great 
Serbia" as depicted by sick minds of Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts,
with the current president of Yugo, Cosic, as one of the participants.  So 
that is why I compare Serbs to Nazis, and that's why you make me puke.

Regards,
--- Davor
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Mr Matic, lets get back to the original thread, Rachel stated the following:

rdc@netcom.com (Rachel Dafni Christy) writes:

>TODAY, THE SERBIANS ARE ACTING LIKE
>THE NAZI'S KILLING THE CROATIANS.

Then i simply states that was highly debatable.

Your reply was that the only debatable thing was how the Serbians are going
to regain the trust and respect of the international community.  Then you
proposed that a step forward would be to cut the tounges and fingers off
people like me and send them to an Orthodox monastary.

I then replied with an estimate of the amount of Serbians which were massacred
within the first year of Croatian independence during WWII.  Now Rachel stated
that the Serbians are acting like the nazis KILLING Croatians.  Keeping to the
orginal thread, i simply stated it was not comparable.  20,000 people dead?
30,000 people dead? on *all* sides in two years of fighting cannot be compared
with 500,000 Serbians and millions of Jews massacred in one year of fighting.

You reply with the following: (Indented)

  Being Nazi is is not determined by how many poeple you have massacred, but
  your philosophy, attitudes and actions towards people, especially your
  minorities.

I tend to agree with you here although i also believe that the massacres are
an important factor.  Now, with your above definition, I can see that
happening on all sides of the war in ex-yu and i'm sure you have read
articles stating all sides are to blame. Of course there is more to it than
that.

  If you had the military power that Nazis had in WWII, there 
  is no doubt in my mind that you would have liquidated more than 2 milion
  people, and you would'n stop even there, in order to establish youg "Great 
  Serbia" as depicted by sick minds of Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts,
  with the current president of Yugo, Cosic, as one of the participants.  So 
  that is why I compare Serbs to Nazis, and that's why you make me puke.

Mr Matic, the above is only a hypothetical, Serbia for one does not have such
a military power so it is totally irrelevent.  I could have said the same about
Croatia supported by the fact that they have already done a similar deed to
the Serbian people with the backing of the Nazis.  I would also believe that
they would do it again due to the fact that they have never officially
apologised unlike the Germans.  From the above reply, it seems to me that
you have compared the Serbs with the Nazis because of your hypothetical and a
few generalisations.

  Regards,
  --- Davor

Zoran Kalenic.
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