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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: LOLLA MAY NOT BE PERFECT...
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:58:37 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep3.064909.294@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>>From:	MX%"gristle@netcom.com"  3-SEP-1992 02:05:06.45
>>Subj:	Re: LISTEN UP, PEOPLE!!! (read this, please)
>
>>All Lolla does is raise money for Perry and his glam scene. If he wanted
>>to *really* educate people, he'd pay for them to fly to Serbia.
>
>...as if Perry would have enough to do that. But hey, next year he could stage
>a tour in Serbia, if you'd make the suggestion. 
>

Uh, yeah. Listen, y'all - Perry Farrell is nothing more than a
manipulative capitalist bent on converting everyone into mindless,
culturally bankrupt cretins. He doesn't care about educating people.
He's much too involved with himself. BTW - I'm sure Wrnr. Bros. would
finance almost *anything* Farrell would think up. He's done mucho
business for the world's largest entertainment corporation. Notice
how many Warner artists were represented at Lollapaloser? Lush (on
Reprise), Red Hot Chili Peppers, Ministry (Sire/WB), and Jesus and
Mary Chain. Four out of seven. Notice how many bands on indie labels
were represented? None. Zip. Nil. Lolla's a corpoate wet dream.
Cash in on a previously volatile and undefinable segment of the
population...

>>Lollapalooza is about making once-great music into mundane boring corporate
>>shit. Its a good thing that there are more bands now than there are venues
>>to hold them, so there is some gap of time before people become sellouts.
>
>If Nirvana or REM were one of the headlining acts, then I'd agree with you on
>the 'sellout' bit. Personally, I think Pearljam, Soundgarden, and the Peppers
>did just fine.
>

You did a good job listing non'sell-out' bands...
The only difference between Nirvana/REM and PJ/Soundgarden/RHCP it that
the first two sell 4 million albums while the last three only sell
2 million....

>>Slamming to Ministry. what a joke.
>
>Oh, PLEASE. You aren't one of those 'gee, i wish Ministry weren't so hard--my
>ears are tender and can't be damaged by such noise' wimps. Ministry is harder
>and better, and they've got the fans to prove it. If you want, go put on some
>Depeche Mode or something...otherwise get a life.
>

Don't think he meant that... :)

>So tell me, what have YOU done to educate the youth on the problems of today?

Don't know what he's done, but I bet he's done it with a better attitude
than you.


-- 
Joshua Houk || houk@athena.cs.uga.edu

I have not yet begun to be sappy, just wait...or not.
   - Lou Barlow
From: rwmj@st-andrews.ac.uk (Richard William Martin Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Family Cat!!! Anyone!!!?!
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:36:15 GMT
Organization: Daresbury Lab., Warrington

In article <bfrrelly.715356100@unix2.tcd.ie> bfrrelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Jerry Cornelius) writes:
>
>
>     How do!!!
>
>  The Family Cat are playing in the Rock Garden (local pub/venue always
>good fun!) here in Dublin on friday night(4th sept.). I was just
>wondering if anyone out there knows anything  about the band etc etc!!!
>I have not heard any of their stuff and just read abvout them in music
>mags!!! I'm going along anyway, but my friends get p*$%d off when I go
>th gigs and they turn out to be shite and then they find out that I
>never heard of the band before!!!!
>
>         So any info would be appreciated!!
>                       Hanx!
>                           Brian!!!

Their (latest?) album, 'Furthest from the sun' is just standard indie
guitar sounds, like N other bands out there. I was turned off it at
once. At Glastonbury, they were OK, but not knowing any of their songs,
I just got bored. Now I've actually heard their songs, I might have a
different opinion about them live, but I wouldn't recommend you go to
a gig 'cold'. On the lighter side, they do have a cute T-shirt, with
a picture of a cartoon pussy playing the guitar. Trouble is, lots of
people are wearing it these days ...

(Oh no, I do sound like such a musical snob. You may think they're the
best thing ever).

Rich.
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From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Straitjacket Fits
Keywords: NZ, Flying Nun, Straitjacket Fits
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:42:14 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Can someone in the know post a discography of pre-S.Fits bands (Doublehappys, 
etc.) or of Bilderine/Bill Direen/Builders stuff? I'd be very happy.

Also, is the new Able Tasmans LP (As) 1) out yet, 2)available in North America 
and especially in Boston or through US mailorder, or 3)any good?

steve burt
c/o ben@athena.mit.edu
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From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Subject: th'Faith Healers
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt.music.alternative
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:16:37 GMT

Hey everybody, th'Faith Healers just signed to Elektra, who will be releasing 
their most recent LP (Lido) on US CD in the fall. What's going on? Majors 
are suddenly signing OK bands.  Does anyone know what's up with Stereolab?
And has anyone, anywhere, found the new Heavenly LP? I think there's some kind 
of parallel-import ban on the Sarah version until K releases it here.

Also, while I'm feeling pseudo-British- can anyone tell me anything about 
the Golden Dawn, a band with two incredible singles on Sarah, now broken 
up? I know there are at least two splinter groups, one of which, the Besotted, 
lives in Scotland and has yet to release a record...

hmmm.

steve burt
c/o ben@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: leeSJ@elec.uq.oz.au (Simon Lee)
Subject: Trashcan Sinatras: Where are they?
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:00:32 GMT


Does anyone know what the Trashcan Sinatras
are up to these days?  Are they still together,
and have they begun recording their (difficult)
second album?

On hearing their first single, Obscurity Knocks,
I had to get the debut album, and was pleasantly
surprised.  I'd like to hear more of the band
who was described by one reviewer as "Morrisey
on uppers".

Any information would be appreciated.

Simon.
--
leeSJ@s1.elec.uq.oz.au

"You're a dedicated follower of fascism."
		--Billy Bragg,
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: look blue go purple (flying nun band)
From: phys170@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Albrow)
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:58:17 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug26.204120.5146@cco.caltech.edu>, rqb@cco.caltech.edu (Rajesh Q. Bilimoria) writes:
> Does anyone know what the band Look Blue Go Purple sounds like?
> They were an all female band in the eighties (disband 87) from 
> new zealand. A cd was recently released called compilation. however,
> it's only available as an import here (ie expensive) and i was wondering
> if anyone had info on their sound.
> 

   Similar to bats/early chills jangly guitar pop. You should like them.


> Somewhat related: I've been buying NZ music as i find it; so far i've
> got straitjacket fits, the bats (3 cds), the chills (4 cds), the
> 3Ds, and one verlaines cd. of them all, i think the bats sound the best,
> if not a little monotonous. I have to be a little partial to the Chills,
> since they are from dunedin, and that's where i was born (but i left in 
> 1975). Are there any other good new zealand bands?
> 
   The obvious omission from your list is the Clean/David Kilgour. You might
also try Sneaky Feelings. Their "Send You" album has just been rereleased
as a CD. They've reformed for a promotional tour for this and they were
great when I saw them last night. One of the most underrated of the early FN
bands, they tend to fall between the popular and alternative audiences.  

Michael Albrow

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Re: Anyone see Nick Cave recently?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:52:19 GMT

In article <guest.35@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:

>In article <guest.30@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:

>>In article <1992Aug26.221401.16541@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:

>>>hudson@csa2.lbl.gov (ERIC HUDSON) writes:

>>>>I was unable to catch the Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds show in San Francisco
>>>>this summer.  I wonder if anyone who saw a show on this tour could send me 
>>>>a setlist and/or comments?

>>>I'm not a big Nick Cave fan, but I travelled 700 miles to see him in SF
>>>anyway.  The show was great.  Some of the songs I remember were "The Ship
>>>Song", "The Weeping Song", and of course a terrific rendition of "Carny".
>>>Nick did "Carny" as a request and stated that they hadn't played it in five
>>>years.  He read the lyrics from a notebook.  There were also many songs from
>>>"Henry's Dream".  All in all, quite an incredible show, made a bigger fan out
>>>of me.
>>>-- 
>>>                         orb be in u, orb be out u

>>>DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
>>>Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown


>>I'm no Nick Cave-fanatic either, but I can remember him singing The Carny at 
>>the Roskilde Festival in 1990.
>Christer Jakobsen

Yeah, Me Too!

----GH----
From: oswego.oswego.edu (haan3561)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: alt.barenaked ladies live at the icon
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:31:28 GMT
Organization: Instructional Computing Center

bare naked ladies are playing live at the icon in buffalo on sept. 17 be there should be a good show 
i saw them at U.B. spring fest and they rocked. see you there!


                            "if all else fails you can blame it on me"
                                                        bare naked ladies

coool 
suny oswego
From: driver8@night.Corp.Sun.COM (Albert Handa)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: rollins books
Date: 1 Sep 1992 13:38:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: driver8@night.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: night.corp.sun.com

I've heard that Henry Rollins has books out, and noted the mention of the
company.  Does anyone know how to contact or write that company?

Al
From: pkang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Pablo Kang)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey in Buffalo,NY
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:46:01 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug24.234524.21004@leland.Stanford.EDU> germ@leland.Stanford.EDU (Germain Wong) writes:
>In article <BtIAtK.9GJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>>Yes yo all , Morrissey will be in Buffalo after Toronto date , on 
>>sept 16 at Sheas , tickets are on sale at ticketmaster locations
>>for $22... So don't miss it 
>>
>
>
>Hey, does anyone know if he'll be doing any shows in Massachusetts??
>
>Thanks,  
>
>-- 
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>      	       |  germ@leland.stanford.edu	gewong@orixa.mtholyoke.edu
> Germain Wong  |  129 D, Escondido Village	Mount Holyoke College
>	       |  Stanford University.		South Hadley, MA 01075.


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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: REM CDs
Keywords: R.E.M., CDs
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:51:19 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

stclair@ldgo.columbia.edu (moanna stclair) writes:

> Can anyone out there help me?  I am about to get my first cd player
> and need help choosing which cds by R.E.M.actually sound great on cd.
> A friend of my warned me that sometimes old or poor recordings are used
> which sound horrible on the compact disc medium.  Also does anyone
> know which R.E.M. album has the song "Superman" on it??? 
> 
> Thanks in advance, Athena

Superman is from Lifes Rich Pageant. Speaking from my own experience, all 
R.E.M. CD's sound great with the possible exception of Dead Letter 
Office. DLO is a collection of outtakes, b-sides and other stuff, and the 
quality level does vary a bit.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:39:58 -0400 
From: Eugene Kuo <ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ramones
	<1992Aug26.121024.10352@sci.kun.nl>


>>I really like the Ramones, and that's why I like
>>>to know if there are any other groups that play
>>>the same kind of music (I think it's called punk
>>>rock) and are (almost) as good as the Ramones.

Although the only Ramones album I've heard is RAMONES MANIA, I think
that some of their songs sound a lot like early Kinks.  Anyone else?

  eugene

Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:20:17 -0400 
From: Elizabeth Amral Pereira <ep2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rem CDs

Most of the REM stuff I've heard on CD wasn't bad considering other
things that I have heard.  A few of the Best:  Out of Time, Green,
Eponymous.  One I wouldn't suggest is Mummur.  The music is cool but the
recording I heard was really bad.  If you find a good one let me know.
Liz
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.cd
From: scrotch@milton.u.washington.edu (Lou Ciphre)
Subject: Re: REM CDs
Keywords: R.E.M., CDs
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:09:51 GMT

stclair@ldgo.columbia.edu (moanna stclair) writes:

>Can anyone out there help me?  I am about to get my first cd player
>and need help choosing which cds by R.E.M.actually sound great on cd.
>A friend of my warned me that sometimes old or poor recordings are used
>which sound horrible on the compact disc medium.  Also does anyone
>know which R.E.M. album has the song "Superman" on it??? 

>Thanks in advance, Athena

IMHO, all REM albums sound great on CD (don't mistake Michael Stipe's
incomprehensible vocal style on early REM CD's for poor recordings.)

I recommend "Reckoning", then "Fables...".

- Lou

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From: kitchens@morpheus.austin.ibm.com (otto vaughn kitchens)
Subject: Throwing Muses' latest
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:45:51 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.037 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: kitchens@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

does anybody have an impression of the Throwing Muses' new album
_Red Tornado_?  thanks.

otto vaughn kitchens
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From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Ramones
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:41:42 GMT

dx@netcom.com (dx) writes:

>Michael O'Sullivan...

>> Basically the Ramones first tour of England in early 76 (Maybe Late 75)
>> ignited it all. 

>The Ramones UK debut was actually mid-76, July 4th to be exact.  They played
>at the Roadhouse in London along with the Flamin' Groovies and the Stranglers.
>(The Ramones were performing in the US almost two years earlier, though,
>making their debut at CBGB's on August 16, 1974.)

>Does anyone have a different chronology?

Your chronology is correct, o venerable one of unknown distance.

The story at the time was that the UK punk was sparked by photographs of
and stories about the Bowery scene, but even that's probably overstated.

Musically, the Dolls had a lot more influence on groups like the Pistols
and the Clash than the Ramones ever did, and they were well-known in
England when CBGB was still living up to its name.  As far as "style" 
is concerned, McLaren has frankly admitted that the fashion and stance
he introduced in London was lifted wholesale from Kentuckyan Lester Myers.

I've always thought that the Ramones arch, satirical pop was about as
orthogonal to British Punk as anything that came out of New York.

-- Clay
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ministry 
From: micheal@felix.lib.csulb.edu (Micheal Wojciechowski)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:02:05 GMT
Organization: California State University Long Beach Library

In article <1992Aug26.132903.2749@bmerh85.bnr.ca> snark@bmerh327.BNR.CA (Eric Nelson) writes:

>Im getting into Ministry, but don't want to buy all of the
>albums they have and toss the ones I don't like.  The band
>seems to have changed style over the years from dance to
>grunge industrial stuff. 

>If I like 'The Land of Rape and Honey' better than '80-84 12 inch
>singles' (i.e. Halloween, etc) what other albums will I like?

>Also - I'd like to find other bands (Skinny Puppy?).  Other 
>recomended listening would be most grand.

>    Thanks,

>Eric Nelson (snark@bnr.ca)      BNR FWP OSI AIF for OAM&P 

You would love _The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste_.  The album just 
before _The Land of Rape and Honey_
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:18:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Michael O'Sullivan...

> Basically the Ramones first tour of England in early 76 (Maybe Late 75)
> ignited it all. 

The Ramones UK debut was actually mid-76, July 4th to be exact.  They played
at the Roadhouse in London along with the Flamin' Groovies and the Stranglers.
(The Ramones were performing in the US almost two years earlier, though,
making their debut at CBGB's on August 16, 1974.)

> 	It should be noted however that three of the pistols
> (Matlock,Jones,Cook) had been playing together for almost two years, which
> disputes your popularist theory.

I have the Sex Pistols first show listed as having been before the Ramones
U.K. debut.  Two separate sources place the Sex Pistols debut on November 11,
1975 (at St. Martin's School of Art), nearly 7 months before the Ramones
landed on their shores.

Does anyone have a different chronology?
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From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: Anyone see Nick Cave recently?
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:35:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.164408.11638@bernina.ethz.ch> torda@igc.ethz.ch (Andrew Torda) writes:
>In article <25789@dog.ee.lbl.gov> hudson@csa2.lbl.gov writes:
>>I was unable to catch the Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds show in San Francisco
>>this summer.  I wonder if anyone who saw a show on this tour could send me 
>>a setlist and/or comments?
>
>I just saw all the other enthusiastic postings. At the risk of being a
>spoil sport, may I throw in a critical note ?

Shit, I missed these postings. If anyone could mail me setlists that were
posted, please do. In Europe, the standard setlist I believe was:

Papa Won't Leave You, Henry
The Good Son
Brother My Cup Is Empty
The Ship Song
I Had a Dream, Joe
The Mercy Seat
Christina the Astonishing
John Finn's Wife
Deanna
The Weeping Song
Jack the Ripper
From Her to Eternity
-----------
In The Getto
New Morning
Tupelo
-----------
Straight To You
Black Betty

This is from Amsterdam, Paradiso, June 2. I have heard that on June 3,
The Carney and When I First Came To Town were played. The setlists to
Vienna May 23 and Munich May 20 were similar, except that Black Betty
was omited. Last saturday I saw Nick at "Pukkelpop", Hasselt, Belgium,
a festival with also the Sisters of Mercy. He played:

Papa Won't Leave You, Henry
The Good Son
Brother My Cup Is Empty
I Had a Dream, Joe
Long Time Man
The Mercy Seat
Christina the Astonishing
Deanna
The Weeping Song
Jack the Ripper
From Her to Eternity
--------
Black Betty

Typically, on festivals he plays mainly up-tempo songs. Nick Cave is the
best live performer I've ever seen, and I've seen many artists the past
15 years. The Amsterdam gig was just incredible. The video to his new
single "I Had a Dream, Joe" was shot there (featuring me in the first row
of the audience :-).

Other Cave related stuff:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Does anybody know more about a film named "Johnny Suede", in which he acts?

Does anybody know something (the contents) of an Australian boxed set?

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY LIVE RECORDINGS (BOOTS, RADIO BROADCASTS) TO TRADE?

Did anyone in Europe video-tape the MTV 120 minutes special on Pukkelpop last
sunday?

Can anyone tell me more about a band called The Wreckery (w. Hugo Race?) ?

Does anyone have Boys Next Door singles?


Mail me if you want my huge Cave discography!


maurice
-- 

Maurice Maes

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From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd,aus.music
Subject: Re: PLEEASE help me name this song!!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:30:19 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <9224122.27352@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (//c //ars) writes:
>
>
>I've heard this song on the radio, which I really liked, although I
>missed out on hearing the female singer's name, could anybody help me
>out please???
>
>
>The song goes something like this (it's a modern sort of pop song);
>
>
>that's what it comes back to (coming back to you)...
>
>No matter what you say, it doesn't matter what you do.. 
>No matter what you say, no matter what I do..
>
>One day you'll see it my way, I don't know when (could be anywhere)
>another wreck on life's long highway, 
>another trip you know we'll have to share.
>
>It's gonna last forever, and there's nothing I can do,
>Put yourself together, that's what it comes back to.
>
>Nothing I can do without it, your love must be true,
>nothing I can say about it keep coming back to you..
>(it all comes back to you)
>

Tasty Fish by The Other Two (the other two members of New Order that didn't 
have a side project).
-Daniel
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From: micah@milton.u.washington.edu (Micah Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: violent femmes info
Date: 30 Aug 92 09:26:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

bt716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Janis Breeze) writes:


>hi, i'm a new violent femmes fan - a big fan.  but, i know               
>nothing about them.  i was hoping that some other fans
>of the femmes might be able to tell me something about them
>(i.e. - where they come from, how old they are, the   
>inspiration for gordon gano's lyrics, etc).  i really
>don't know anything about them.  thanks.
>janis

I'll tell ya one thing, the Bass player is an asshole.

I had front row to their concert, loved them lots, was shoved smack into the
front and then lifted, no pushed, onto stage. I was trying to get back down
when over waltzes cigar puffing bass player, and he proceeded to kick me
with his LARGE, POINTED coyboy boots. I wasn't happy, and the Violent 
Femmes decended several notches on my scale of cool bands... several of
my followers (heh) protest them by turning down the bass all the way
whenever they listen to them (the bass parts are usually the best in their
songs too, poop)...
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