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From: Richard.Edwards@f108.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Edwards)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: What Is Policy For Drivin
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:36:50 -0800

JM>Just wondering what the policy is for Volunteers driving to the
station to
JM>respond to their alarm?

In NY state it is follow the rules of the road. No speeding,no running
cars or people off the road etc. In our department we arrive at the
station,fill the spots on the trucks in order and respond usually with
an officer on board. Anything eles you are looking for just ask.
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From: Barbara.Mezzanini@f7.n2609.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mezzanini)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: info WFS
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:11:00 -0800

 BM>    I belong to an organization called Women in the Fire
 BM>    Service. It also relates to EMS, there's is a

 RG> would love to get the info re: Women in the Fire Service. On the
 RG> Sunshine Coast we have only 2 women firefighters. My daughter
idolizes
 RG> one of them who was one of my students. I want her to be a safe
 RG> professor of medicine.

   The address for Women in the Fire Service:

                   Women in the Fire Service
                   P.O. Box 5446
                   Madison, Wisconsin 53705

                   (608) 233-4768

   Publications Editor: Terese M. Floren
   Associate Editor: Linda Willing

   My husband is a Police Officer. A friend of ours who also
   works with my husband, has a daughter who was quite taken
   with my being a fire"lady" (Firefighter <g>). It was such
   a positive experience for me having this little girl
   "idolize" me. She would visit me at the firehouse, sit in
   the rigs with my helmet on <smile>. Thanks for reminding
   me of it! One year for Christmas, I conned an old helmet
   (one of the real old metal ones ugh!) from the supply
   officer, had it all painted and made a helmet shield for
   her. We made her an honorary member of my shift. I think we
   all had a great time with it <g>. I was transferred a
   short while later to our Rescue Unit, being extremely busy
   there, I didn't have time for her visits, and then she
   became interested in "boys". Our special bond still
   exists, but has outgrown the boundaries :)  I'm sure it
   will be something for us both to look back at with fond
   memories.

   Please pass the info on to the Firefighters also,
   regarding WFS. If they have any questions, they could
   contact WFS directly, or myself. I'd be more than happy to
   answer any questions or assist in any way.

              Barbara Mezzanini
              P.O. Box 498
              Marcy, New York 13403
              U.S.A.


   Sincerely,

   *Barb*
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From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: amber / green lights
Date: 21 Nov 92 07:05:34 GMT


 -=> Quoting Michael P. Rolfes to All <=-

 MPR> From: usr2879a@TSO.UC.EDU (Michael P. Rolfes)

 MPR> What are your state laws regarding amber and green lights?  How
many
 MPR> departments have amber lights on their POV's with red, blue,
etc... or

 MPR> on their ambulances and fire equipment?
Here in TN, it goes as follows, 

     Blue, Full time law enforcement officers, in pursuit of their
duties,
and State Emergency Management Officers.

     Red, Fire Dept, EMS, Rescue, and Volunteers of recognized
services.

     Yellow, Road service, construction, React, escorts.
 
     Green, No law, used mainly by Police Wannabees, ie security

     White, No law.

   Metro Nashville Fire Department, has added Yellow lights to the rear
of the ambulances, heavy rescues, and ladder trucks.

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From: George.Vaisey@f237.n260.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Dispatch - Software
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:20:00 -0800

Jim,
        I am currently working on how to hook up mike to computer. 
Could You Send me the Source Code For Inputing souds like that.  I have
already written a program but it needs sound.  Could YOu tell me how to
put sound into it?? Thanks alot.


                         George Vaisey

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Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:10:01 -0500 
From: Julie A Reyer <jr51+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Foreign language trans.

An electronic translator sounds neat, BUT....

I'm not sure how well it would work.  EMS patients have usually
undergone some sort of traumatic incident - why else would we be there. 
Anyway, patients aren't always very clear thinking.  By hearing someone
(thing) speak their own language, a patient will probably answer in
their own language.  I don't think it would be a good idea to have a
patient try to type in a response.  Even asking simple yes or no
questions will get us in trouble with a spinal injury.  Currently, when
faced with a foreign patient with no translators around, most EMS people
I've seen treat it in the following manor.  Talk to the patient in a
soothing, calming voice.  Even though the person can't understand what
you're saying, the tone of your voice comes through.  As far as being
injured and location of that pain, a survey of the person and their
facial expressions and exclamations is a good guide.  I admit asking
about allergies and medications presents a problem.  Personally, I am in
favor of medic alert bracelets to help solve this problem.  

Just my $.02 worth.

Later,

JR
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:24:25 CST
From:         Marco Antonio Esparza Esparza <AL283320@VMTECSLP.BITNET>
Subject:      HELLO

      Hello Everybody:

I'm very pleased of being accepted on this list.
I'm from Mexico, so if I have some mistakes on the writen,please excuse me.
I'm going to take the EMT-A course, but now I'm a first responder.
I'd like to know about everything that's new on EMS, so I could tell it
to my folks.On this way we'll improve the Emergency Medical Services here in
Mexico.
By the way I'd like to know who has the new AHA protocols to CPR.

I'm also new on this Bitnet bussiness, so excuse me if I have some
mistakes.

FOR YOUR ATTENTTIONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
From: Bruce.Phillips@f182.n132.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Phillips)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: scanner database door
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:27:00 -0800

> The BEST door program I have found, would be the
> ScannerBuff! program,
> 
> A new scanner database door is out called McListen...
> Selectable
> databases, search by Agency, State, Freq, or Type,
> downloadable
> searches....
Where can I Freq. a copy of this and what is it called??? 

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From: Paul.Rehman.Jr.@f2.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Rehman Jr.)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Mutual/automatic aid pact
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:40:00 -0800

PG>Ihave a question for everyone:
PG>        How common are Automatic aid pacts in your area?
PG>        How difficult were they to implement?

Peter,
  We have several departments (volunteer) in my area who have an auto-
matic mutual aid system for structure fires.  My department has a mutual
aid policy which allows the first rig in to determine the need for addi-
tional personel and/or departments.  I have over the last few years
called for help from the surrounding departments, primarily during the
day time hours when most of the crews are at full time occupations.  We
are a paid- on-call department and in many ways suffer the same problems
as the all volunteer departments.  Without the availabilty of mutual aid
we would be in hurting shape.

Paul Rehman
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From: Blynn.Mueller@f302.n10.z1.fidonet.org (Blynn Mueller)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: CAD SOFTWARE
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:03:00 -0800

Thanks for your reply Paul. I will see if I can locate it.

Blynn

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From: Roxanne.Gregory@f403.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Roxanne Gregory)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Critical Incident Stress
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:14:28 -0800

Hello Barbara!

31 Oct 92, Barbara Mezzanini writes to Roxanne Gregory:

 BM>    Great, will work on getting something together for you
 BM>    from here.

 BM>    state level. This is a subject that's very important to me!
 BM>    My only current training, is "having been there".

 BM>    I belong to an organization called Women in the Fire
 BM>    Service. It also relates to EMS, there's is a

 BM>    Can you post the address again, I think I have it, just
 BM>    not sure where it is. If you're interested in the WFS
 BM>    newsletter or info, let me know.

        I 've been swamped of recent and apologize again for my delay. I
couldn't believe it had been so long since I got your message. I would
love to get the info re: Women in the Fire Service. On the Sunshine
Coast we have only 2 women firefighters. My daughter idolizes one of
them who was one of my students. I want her to be a safe professor of
medicine.

       The CIS PROJECT address is Box 305 Madeira Park, B.C. Canada VON
2HO

       "Having been there," re: CIS makes us all more aware. Have you
got
peer-counselling programs where you are? I find peer counsellors
invaluable in debriefs.


Cats never use my credit cards, come to think of it they actually lower
B.P unlike kids...
Roxanne

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From: Brian.Stefanish@f507.n2601.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Stefanish)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: OSHA regs
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:56:42 -0800

 
 >  >>  1. OSHA regulations apply to ALL employers (public & private).
 >  >>  2. Whether federally or state enforced at a minimum is the
federal
 > >>     rule. States may change to make more stringent not less
 > effective.  > I understand your point.
 > > But, being a minor, I have been worked past my 5 hours and not
giving
 > a  > break.  My brother, who is 17, worked 2 weeks ago Saturday 6.6
 > hours  > before he got his break. This past Saturday, some other
minor
 > got the  > screws, only he was close to 6 hours.
 >  > What can one do about this problem? Where does one turn to?
 > Best thing I minor that does not want to be treated as an adult in
an
 > Emergency organization can do is quit.  You will no longer be a
burden
 > on your older co-workers that are haveing to carry you because of
this
 > attatude. 
 >  
 > Don't get me wrong, I am not saying all minors should not be
allowed,
 > but when our VFD allowed 18 year olds in instead of 21 year olds,
that
 > is when the quality of fire service started dropping.
 
Please understand this is an not an emergency organization he works for,

it is mcd's,. I was responded to a message to all about osha standards.
2) 
quitting the job is not an option. he has to be working to make moeny
 
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From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Centracom ii consoles
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:05:48 -0800

Does any department or individual need any Centracom parts, Complete
Modules,
Computer Interfaces, etc?  I will make the price extremely
good for any Government

or Public Safety (EMS PD FD etc) agency. 

This message is not intended to make a profit for me, or anyone else,
just to provide a service with some equipment.  Contact me E-mail, or 
voice at 615-860-2013, or if these options are not available on this 
echo.
(gosh knows we do not want any internet users upset about the message)
 

... Music City USA, Nashville TN!
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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Things are set..
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:00:00 -0800

Hi George:
I'm really sorry about tonite, when you logged on to D/L Fire Files.
See when my computer crashed I had a friend of mine,who has a busniess.
On the side for repairing computers,welp he reinstalled the dos 5.00.
And my DSZ files were deleted that are used for down and upload as a
protocal to run the file area. My main problem was the computer wasn't
booting  up correctly I had to rebuild a brand new Config.Sys. This was
my first time I ever done this kind of thing ,but I.m very proud of
myself
though. Cause it's running correctly now..

So come on back and download those's files you wanted tonite..
I'm just sorry things weren't working, like they should have worked out
tonite.


                         Later..

                          Paul..  
 
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From: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Nicholson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: code 99
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:51:32 -0800

     *** You thus spoke:

PRJ> Around here, " 99"  means officer in trouble, (fire or police as

Same out here on the West coast.  Any "99" call indicates an officer
needs help.  I.E.  Code 99, 10-99, 11-99 etc.

PRJ>  Although the police use the signal/code system more than we
PRJ>  do in the fire/ems service.

Likewise here.  Many (if not most) fire services now use plain text
rather than any code system, while the law enforcement agencies still
use them.


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From: Ed.Matthews@f13.n284.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Matthews)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Gif's of Fire Stations an
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:03:00 -0800

PV>I have a nice collection of FIRE.GIFs . Just request the Whistle.arj
and
PV>the file list will tell you everything I have for FIRE.GIFs.
PV>Feel free to request all you want..

PV>Paul Vallone.
PV>1:321/233 Whistle Stop (448-6292)

Paul, could I talk you into giving your BBS's full phone number.  I'd
like to drop in and look, even if I had to help buy shoes for your
kids in order to download your fire gifs.  I have a vague idea of the
FREQ system, but my local sysop is among the economically disadvantaged
and I'd hate to make his phone bills any worse.

Thanks.

Ed

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From: Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: afa training..
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:50:00 -0800

WJV||          Michael Seneco sent

WJV||Michael Seneco Overheard William J. Vital talking about Afa
training..
   ||recently.....  WJV> Red Cross Prehospital  WJV> medicine has
evolved
   ||dramatically over the past 20 years. AFA was,  WJV> it's time, the
standar
   ||of care. This was at a time when ambulance  WJV> crews basically
ran "scop
   ||and swoop" operations. Although If you  WJV> want to help others
the answe
   ||to your question should be obvious.  WJV> yourself this: If you
were lying
   ||the street critically injured,  WJV> would you want taking care of
you,
   ||someone with 40 hours of  WJV> (AFA), or someone with triple that
training
   ||(EMT).

 MS||To anwser your question quoted above : I would want
   ||who could help me to provide me with aid. I certainly
   ||not ask them what there training was before I allowed to
   ||assist me. Last I checked, there is no difference in way a
   ||Red Cross trained and an EMT trained person stops someone
   ||from bleeding.                 Michael Seneco, EMT-A

Michael,

The item quoted above was my reply so I feel obligated to address your
post.

Although I agree that the training for some very basic injuries IS the
same or similar, how well does AFA prepare you for Dx'ing and Tx'ing
the
Acute MI or in-bleed. Recognizing the difference between an MI and AAA.

What about proper reporting procedures, Ambulance operations,
Medical/legal issues, etc. As I have previously stated, I am not
knocking AFA. I am stating my belief that AFA no longer prepares
someone
to crew an EMS ambulance. In fact the DOT curriculum barely prepares
you.

As previously stated, AFA does have it's place in pre-hospital care,
but
that place is not in the back of an ambulance, IMHO.


Regards,

KMA

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From: Rick.Wilson@f2112.n327.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: What is policy for driving
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:25:00 -0800

Jim...

08 Nov 92, Jim Malkowski writes to Eddie Ferguson:

 JM> Thankyou, This is what I was wondering. Not so much the lights, but
what
 JM> do you do upon coming to a Red light, Even in a green light you go
 JM> with caution, but should you wait at the Red? items like that...

Red light or not, there are still morons out there who don't respect
emergency vehicles going with lights and siren.  I've seen that here in
New England, sadly...

Ah well...

Rick

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From: Joe.Noel@f4.n3805.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Noel)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Safety Principles...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:40:00 -0800

 > I found this in an EMS newsletter:

 > SAFETY PRINCIPLES YOU CAN LIVE BY:


I like those, I would like to add one to them,

A response can only be called a success if your involvement helped, not
hindered the situation.


In other words, if you have a wreck, you are hindering the original
situation.

Joe

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From: Darryl.Seamans@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Darryl Seamans)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Code 99
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:35:00 -0800

        A question for all you rescue people out there from someone who
lives in a volunteer fire/rescue community in Maine...what does it
specifically mean when someone (dispatcher, EMT, etc) says it's a "code
99"? I have a scanner at my home so I can hear all the excitement in my
town when an alarm goes off or there's an accident, and the other night
there was a "CODE 99" broadcast and two days later the patient's
obituary was in the local paper.
                                                        -Darryl
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From: Elliott.Johnston@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Elliott Johnston)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Emerg.lights
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:58:00 -0800

SL>From: sdclobby cadmin.Dayton.NCR.COM (SDC Lobby)
SL>Reply-To: sdclobby cadmin.Dayton.NCR.COM (SDC Lobby)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Can you please I.D. the above abbreviations?
Pardon me for asking this (probably) dumb question, but who are you?

...signed: An NCR employee in South Alabama.

Thanks.

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From: Dwayne.Rich@p20.f1000.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Dwayne Rich)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Drug Testing
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:21:59 -0800

In a message of <Nov 13 11:40>, Eddie Ferguson (8:7301/709@@network)
writes:  
 EF>Our department requires a physical and drug test for all new
volunteers 
 EF>(as for our paid members). Then, we pay for random drug screens for

 EF>other members. Our physical fitness is built into our training
program, 
 EF>though no specific test is required for new members.

        Can you tell me if this program has been implemented since you
became a 
member with the dept.?  If so can you tell me how it was implemented and
what 
SOP's do you have concerning the physical fitness and drug testing.


Dwayne  


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From: Terry.Gendreau@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Gendreau)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Oops!
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 07:00:00 -0800

Z >Western Australia has a nice 'out', a person acting "... in good
faith
Z >responce to an emergency call is imune from prosecution. There is
also
Z >a provision
Z >in the criminal code that provides imunity "... from all laws or
legal
Z >where reasonable in an emergency... "
Z >

But what is reasonable ? It sure seems like (here in the states anyway)
that anyone and everyone else other than the perpetrator is responsible
for the accident and not the person that actually caused it. Would
responding to an incident at 120 kph in a 25 ton vehicle on a straight
road then passing a cyclist and having your backwash/turbulence cause
the
cyclist to veer into the path of oncoming traffic and get hit be
reasonable ? In a previous msg, some commented on the drunk running a
red
and smacking the side of an ERV and the driver of the ERV being held
responsible. This is STUPID, our laws don't appear to be able to grasp
the
concept of responsibility. As pros, we should be the first to assume
responsibility, for ourselves, our equipment, and, our responses to
emergencies. We aren't "kings of the road" and should conduct ourselves
as
pros. Good faith is a well intentioned lip-service, but it still boils
down to common sense and respect.

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: af905@yfn.ysu.edu (Ed Shanks)
Subject: Re: Amber / Green lights
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:17:45 GMT


Here in the greater Youngstown (Ohio) area ambulances have been
displaying an amber strobe above the rear doors or on both sides
of the rear doors. One thing I thought was eye-catching, but
haven't noticed on the newest ambulances, was a 360 degree white
strobe on top of the ambunce. I thought it showed up pretty 
well even in the daylight
Never saw any green lights around here, though. Except on the
traffic lights :-)  (hee hee)

-- 
       Ed Shanks      af905@yfn.ysu.edu
       Sr. Firefighter (and lots of other titles, as well!)
       Boardman Fire Dept.    Boardman, Ohio
       "It's not just an adventure, its a job!"
From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Hazard lights on emer
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:06:29 -0800

 -=> Quoting Joe Noel to Blake Bowers <=-

 > My worry has always been that we are getting so much equpment on the
 > rigs,
 > that we may be confusing the drivers of POV's.  Much like using the

 JN> As for the phasar, have you ever actually listened to the phaser
mode
 JN> of an emergency vehicle while approaching? SOmetime listen to one
as it
I agree, the phaser does seem to be not quite as piercing also. 
  
  One of the "Flywheels" in the area has built up a side job modifying
sirens, seems he adds 2 three position switches, which adds 2 diffenent
pitches to each mode, giving a siren 12 different tones, or modes.,
Seems real silly to me, sounds like the carnival coming down the road.

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