From: amartin@ucs.indiana.edu ()
Subject: Re: no-flyzone
Followup-To: alt.desert-storm
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:38:50 GMT

In article <1k6sspINN91e@menudo.uh.edu>, HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER,
JIMMY A.) wrote:
> 
> In <amartin-270193140413@lib102b-565556.lib.indiana.edu> amartin@ucs.indiana.edu writes:
> 
> > This is in response to the no fly zone....
> > What right does a country, or an organization, have to partition another
> > country
> > up & then tell its leaders they can not operate in that part of the
> > country.  
> 
>   The more hard-nosed among us might say "force of arms".  I suppose we need
> a section of the UN charter spelling out the rights of the occupiers now.
> 
> > It is thier bloody country; not the UN's; not the US's.  It's time that the
> >  arab peoples gained full controll of their own land back.
> >     I don't condone the acts of Sadam Hussain but I can not support telling
> > another leader that he is not free to operate in his own country.
> 
>   Look, folks.  It's not all that hard to understand.  Try it this way:
> 
>   Some individual (Iraq/Saddam) kidnaps someone (invades Kuwait).  The police
> (UN/Coalition) capture the individual (Iraq/Saddam) and free the captive 
> (Kuwait).  The criminal (Iraq/Saddam) must be punished.  So they are imprisoned



But the US Doesn't punish Sadam Husien by bombing the country; they kill
Iraqi citizens.  The theory is that the people will get fed up & overthrow
Husien.  This is unlikey given the present situation.  Furthermore, the
plan
backfired; Instead of getting people up in arms over Husien, it's made
Iraqi pissed of at the US.  In short, it has drawn the people & regime
closer
together.  
    If interference must be commited then I feel they should have chosen
another
method.  If it is deemed that Husien, "Must be punished", then take out
Husein without killing the Iraqi population.  The people of Iraq didn't
commit the atrocities.  I know this goes against international law & I'm
not necessarily advocating it, but I would have been more pleased had they
assassinated Husien instead of bombing the people.  Now before I get
flagged
for this comment,although I do not advocate assassinating world leaders,  I
would have chosen it in this case over the other alternative.
    I admit I have strong personal feelings on this matter becouse I have
some close friends who are Iraqi; some of which I didn't know wether or not
they
were alive until after one month after the war.
    All policies have reactions.  If the West, the US included, had
observed
diferent policies in the past then many of what is going on in the middle
east
today would be quite different.  For example, one strong reason for the
rise in
fanatical Islamic movements has been a reaction to Western Imperialism. 
Iran
is an example of this.  I am a pan-arabist; I think it's time the Arab
people
gained control of their region; free from Western domination.  I propose
a coalition of an Arab League to solve middle eastern problems; keep the
West
out of it.  I propose the E.C. to solve European affairs; keep North
America
out of it.  
  
     
> (sanction/no-fly zones, what have you).  There are rules to be allowed in order
> to be allowed freedom again.  When the criminal (Iraq/Saddam) breaks these rules
> or refuses to follow them, then the jailors/guards (UN/US and allies) impose
> more punishments (air raids/no fly zones) and/or extend the jail time.
> 
>   It's really quite simple.  I am continually amazed at the general lack
> of understanding the simple concepts of dealing with bullies and criminals.
> 
> > The US has too long of a history medeling in other countries affairs..
> 
>   Ad hominem applied to a nation-state?  Blah, blah, blah.  US actions in
> the past have nothing to do with current debates over the rightness or
> wrongness of actions in Iraq.
> 
> 
> semper fi,
> 
> Jammer Jim Miller 
> Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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