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From: odin@netcom.com (Jon Granrose)
Subject: Re: Alaska Fisheries
Organization: Hell's Geeks
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:28:55 GMT


I worked as a salmon butcher in a cannery the summer of '89 on Kodiak.
The work was slow due to the Valdez spill but I got a better job with the
cleanup anyway so I wasn't too upset.  And if you are willing to work the
hours, you can make a lot of money.  I netted a little over $1000/wk for the
6 weeks I was working on the cleanup.

For living arrangements I was sleeping in a tent for the first few weeks
and then in the back of a borrowed Volvo the last month or so.  Camping is
by far the cheapest and probably easiest living style unless the cannery
provides housing (many do).

There's a book on looking for jobs in Alaska.  I believe it is called "How
to Find a Job in Alaska" or something similar.  I found it at my campus job
info center.  It discusses most of the good towns to work and the jobs
available as well as the weather, necessary gear, etc.  Invaluable book.
Buy it if you have to because if you are serious in going, it is invaluable.
Most bookstores can look up titles and should be able to find it.  I tried
looking at my school's job center but I couldn't find the book again
otherwise I'd post the title/author.

Two very important things you need to know are these.  First, if you are
working in a cannery, you will need boots: waterproof (rubber) that come to
midcalf or just below the knee.  Bring them with you and you will save
money (most things in AK are more expensive due to shipping).  Any other
gear you need they give you at the cannery either for the day (bib-pants)
or on loan (filleting knife).
Second, first thing to do in any new town is go to the local office of the
state job center (I forget the real name but it should be easy to find) and fill
out a form.  They will have listings of _all_ the jobs in town and can even
provide a print out of jobs of particular interest to you (i.e. cannery).
AK is great at this.  I was beyond impressed.

If you have any questions, mail me and I'll try to answer them as best I
can.  The summer I spent in Alaska was one of the best I've ever had.  I
worked 100+ hour weeks, made a hell of a lot of money (even had a $1000+
tax refund ;-), and met some of the nicest, most interesting people it's
ever been my privelege to meet.  I recommend it highly and would even
consider working there after I graduate although I wouldn't want to raise a
family there (I feel sorry for all the teenagers I met on Kodiak ;-).

-Jon-
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: aboltwoo@alfred.carleton.ca (Alana Boltwood)
Subject: Re: Need info regarding careers in management consulting
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:20:17 GMT

In <1993Jan24.203948.9128@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ftan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fredy  Tan) writes:

>Hi, I am a recent college graduate with a bachelor's degree in electrical
>engineering. I was wondering whether there are business consultants
>out there who can point out the interview process and tips for getting
>a job at companies such as BCG (Boston Consulting Group), Ernst & Young,
>McKinsey & Co, Booz-Allen Hamilton, etc. 
>I have heard that they ask questions like << How many square meters of
>pizzas were sold in the US last year? >>. Quite frankly, I don't really
>know how to answer this kind of question.

The pizza question may seem silly but there is a reason that this
exact question could be asked.  I am taking a course on forecasting in
technology, economics and society, and tonight we did a "test" with
twenty rapid-fire questions that made this seem easy.  (E.g. How many
people died in a 1982 train crash in Nigeria?)  The idea was not to
know the exact number, but to give reasonable estimates, or at least
upper and lower limits of what would be reasonable.  We were told that
various sorts of consulting firms give this kind of test to see if
potential consultants (a) can think on their feet and (b) have any
"general knowledge".

BTW, there were 81 killed in the train crash.  And my guessed range
was 0 to 500 people.  An easier example:  What's the lowest
temperature ever recorded in Calgary, Alberta, Canada?  Being
Canadian, I guessed -35 degrees Celsius, with a range of -50 to -27.
The answer?  -45 degrees!  There were historical dates, populations in
given years, weight limits for boxing competition categories, and
everything else you could imagine.

Does anyone out there have any actual experience in an interview with
this kind of question?  I hope I am correct that the candidate is not
expected to know all the answers.

Alana Boltwood (aboltwoo@ccs.carleton.ca)
Statistics (BA Hons 4th year) Carleton University, Ottawa, ON, Canada
(Looking for work in survey research, management consulting, etc)
From: johnboyd@ocdis01.UUCP (John Boyd)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Is three pages too long for a resume?
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:13:30 GMT
Organization: Tinker Air Force Base, Oklahoma

In article <1993Jan23.030926.12400@Princeton.EDU> subbarao@fc.hp.com writes:
>
>My resume was FOUR "pages" long. (and this is when I graduated from college :-))

There was a discussion of proper length for resumes in the Employment
column in the Dallas Morning News this last Sunday, for those of you that
have access...

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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: rob@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rob Tanner)
Subject: HELP finding a good headhunter in Seattle or Portland areas
Reply-To: "Rob Tanner" <rob@sherlock.stanford.edu>
Organization: Stanford University, California
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 07:32:31 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for a good head hunter in the Seattle or Portland area.  

I run a medium size dos/mac network with a Sun SPARC as a host
(running CAP) as well as manage (responsible for the metadata,
filedefs, screens, etc) a hierarchical type database (called SPIRES)
running on an MVS mainframe.  I'm a medium weight unix administrator,
very good on networking, and good at database design.

I would like to move out of the Bay Area.  I'm looking for a position
that will give me more exposure to mixed platform networks (preferably
with unix hosts), and an opportunity to work on projects that
integrate mainframe data repositories and desktop client programs.

If you know of a good head hunter that could help me, I'd appreciate
the lead.

Thanks in advance.

Rob Tanner
Mountain View, California

e-mail: rob@sherlock.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Reply-To: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil
Organization: NAWS, China Lake, CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:26:37 GMT

In article MGF@athena.cs.uga.edu, stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton) writes:
>In article <1k42kpINN2n3@usenet.pa.dec.com> klee@wsl.dec.com writes:
>>Don't bother.  By the time most people see a resume, it's been
>>FAXed and/or photocopied several times.  I'd recommend high quality
>>black type on good bond paper.  This copies very well.
>>
>Most, maybe.  However I went on a few interviews a few weeks ago and
>had the opportunity to hand a copy of my resume to no less than three
>people at EACH interview.  It was at those times that I was glad I had
>made the extra effort to put it on the highest quality paper I could
>find.  I got a LOT of good comments from the people to which I gave my
>resume, including one personnel director saying it was the nicest one
>she had seen in a long time.  *PROUD smile here* :)  
>
>If you feel like you need to be "sensible" and just put it on good bond
>paper, plain white or whatever, then only use that utilitarian approahc
>for mass mailings of resumes, etc.  If you are going to go in for an
>interview and will have the opportunity to make sure that people get 
>your resume directly from your hand, I'd say the extra effort for 
>an exceptionally high quality look is worth it.  Maybe print up a batch
>of fifty resumes solely for taking with you to interviews.
>
>Cat
>
>-- 
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>    Cat Stanton
>    stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu
>_______________________________________________________________________________

Having been on both sides of the interview table, thankfully now in the
interviewer's chair, I can say that most of the people I know who conduct
interviews and review resumes (including me) really don't care about what kind
of paper you use.  I'm more interested in the content, and I definately have the
BS meter running.  In general, if I see a resume in a "highly unusual" color,
I'm more likely to drop it in the trash than read it.  For an engineering/
programming job, I want to see qualifications, education, previous jobs, etc.
Oddball colors, multiple font sizes and styles, resumes printed in landscape
mode, etc, just strike me the wrong way.  My impression is the person is more
interested in form over function, or has a really weak resume and is trying to hide
something with flash.

One manager's opinion.

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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:21:13 GMT

wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:

>I'm about to do that psycho-resume-mailout-from-hell thing...
>
>Someone recently suggested that it might be a good idea to try out
>different coloured paper instead of the standard white, blandola...

Use something distinctive, as high a quality as you can afford, and in an
at least partially sane colour.  I use a nice (very lightly) lavender-
tinted parchment that has worked very effectively.  It stands out without
being obnoxious, and it adds a personal touch (I'm a purple nut).

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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: jerrells@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Joby D. Jerrells)
Subject: Re: HELP finding a good headhunter in Seattle or Portland areas
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:23:04 GMT

"Rob Tanner" <rob@sherlock.stanford.edu> writes:

>I'm looking for a good head hunter in the Seattle or Portland area.  

There are a few headhunters in the PNW, but...my advice is not to quit your
job and move to the mecca of the US expecting to be welcomed with open arms
by the local population.  Sounds like you have some great credentials,
nonetheless, it will still be difficult for you to relocate into that area.
Get a job before you quit your current one, but if you insist, make sure you
have enough money to live on for at least a year.  I went there last year
to check out the economic climate and had a rude awakening to my own
expectations about getting a job.  The # 1 industry is timber.  It is OK to
be green, so long as you don't bleed it everywhere.  I had another friend with
12 years as a VAX system manager and he couldn't even get a job as a temp
anywhere in the Portland->Eugene areas.  Plan, plan, and replan.  I would
strongly recommend that you visit the area as often as you can to gain a
better insight.  Also, check out the Stanford library and read an Oregonian
newspaper every week at the minimum.  Looking at your experience, I would
check out Intel (Beaverton) and Hewlett Packard if I were you...

Good Luck, you'll need it.

-- 
  Joby Jerrells                                     jerrells@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:55:29 EST
From: <F0O@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Is three pages too long for a resume?

   Hi netters!

   My resume now is two pages, and I couldn't squeeze any more into those
two pages.  I will start another job at the beginning of February and this
will certainly push my resume into three pages.
   Are three pages too much if you feel all the information is relevant?
I don't want the resume to be too long, and have the potential employer
not even look at it, but on the other hand, I don't want to keep out any
information which might get me hired.

                                                            [Tim]
From: carrie@wpi.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Looking for recruiters
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:03:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


(My apologies to anyone who thinks that this is posted to the wrong group,
 but it seems that most requests wanting information about recruiters are
 done to misc.jobs.misc.)

Since my own search for a new job has not proven very successful, I was
wondering if there are any recruiters out there who would be willing to
help me in my search.  I am experienced with C and Unix and worked for
Digital for six months.  Unfortunately, those six months mean that I am
not longer eligible for assistance from my college placement service and
that I do not have enough experience for assistance from many recruiters.   
I am willing to relocate anywhere in the United States (with the exception 
of New York City).  If you have any information, questions, or comments,
please contact me at 508-365-5707 or this account, carrie@wpi.wpi.edu.

Patricia Bender



Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: joe@jmc.oe.fau.edu (Joe Cuschieri)
Subject: Faculty Position in Ocean Engineering
Organization: Florida Atlantic University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:26:54 GMT

FACULTY POSITION IN OCEAN ENGINEERING:

     The Department of Ocean Engineering at Florida Atlantic University invites
applications for a tenure track faculty position for teaching and research in the area of Oceanography and Ocean Engineering.  Candidates must have a strong background in research and a commitment to excellent teaching.
     We are particularly interested in candidates with a specialization in
oceanography, geophysical and environmental hydrodynamics and other fields of oceanography.  The candidate would be responsible for teaching undergraduate courses in physical, chemical and geological oceanography and graduate courses
in the candidate's field of interest.  Other responsibilities include supervising graduate students, university service and the development of funded research.  Plans call for the position to be filled by the 1993 Fall Semester.  Applicants should possess an earned doctorate degree in earth sciences or engineering by the time of the appointment.  The appointment will be made at the rank of Assistant, Associate Professor or Professor, depending upon qualifications.
      Applications will begin to be reviewed on March 18, 1993, and will continue to be reviewed until the position is filled.
     Address applications to:  Dr. Stanley E. Dunn, Chairman, Department of
Ocean Engineering, Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, Florida  33431.  FAU is an Equal Opportunity Affirmative Action Employer.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,talk.politics.drugs
From: bps@deseree.webo.dg.com
Subject: Pre-offer drug test
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:37:50
Distribution: misc
Organization: PAE, Data General Corp., Westboro, MA


I have not seen the thread before and hope that I have picked the
right news groups for my question.

I will be required to take a urine type drug test as part of the
hiring process. I have heard that certain drugs (pot) stay in a
persons body anywhere from 4 weeks to several months. If anyone out
there has any information regarding the drug tests or how to pass them
regardless of some indiscretions in the past.

Reply via e-mail or this thread.

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From: bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:19:44 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:

>I'm about to do that psycho-resume-mailout-from-hell thing...

>Someone recently suggested that it might be a good idea to try out
>different coloured paper instead of the standard white, blandola...

It depends on what you are applying for. If you are applying for
a graphic artist position - or something else that uses color,
then a color resume is probably fine. For most other "real"
jobs, you are much more likely to alienate the person reading
the resume.
From: mqd1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAURICE Q. DADOUN)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: WANTED: A Job in Chemical Engineering
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:37:30 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

To Whom it may concern:


                             MAURICE DADOUN
                           11 West 4th street
                           Bethlehem, PA 18015
                           Tel: (215)-882-1175 (Home)
                                (215)-758-5430 (Office)

OBJECTIVE
^^^^^^^^^
Working on an international project. More precisely, I'm looking for
an American Chemical Company dealing with projects in cooperation with
Europe or with an European company.
As a chemical engineer, I'm interested in design and control of chemical
process.

EDUCATION
^^^^^^^^^^
July 1991:
Diplome d'ingenieur (French engineer diploma, between BS and
MS) in chemical engineering from the Ecole Nationale Superieure
d'Ingenieurs en Genie Chimique (Grande Ecole) in Toulouse, France.
Major: Automatic\Simulation.

September 1991:
Diplome d'Etude Approfondi (French degree equivalent to MS) in chemical
engineering from Universite Paul Savatier in Toulouse, France.

PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCES
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
December 92 - Mars 93:
Research contract for the French multinational chemical company
Elf-Aquitaine, Dept of Process Modeling and Control (Prof. C. Georgakis),
Lehigh Univ., Bethlehem, PA.
Developed a dynamic model of superheated steam production boilers and
use of this model to test different control technics. Among them, the
constrained form of Model Predictive Control.

September - October 92:
Part time design engineer, French engineering company SNPE
(Subsidiary of the main company SNPE which produces plastic, arms,
explosives, fuel for the European rocket Ariane...).
Study of a new process for concentration of sulfuric acid by direct
induction. The process was patented in  collaboration with
Dow-Corning and the national state owned electrical company EDF.

February - April 1991:
Engineer training, SNPE engineering company.
Elaboration of a software for the management of a data base for a
marketing strategy purpose.

Summer jobs:
Many part time jobs dealing with advertisements, architecture, customs...

ACADEMIC PROJECTS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
* Design of a methanol production unit.

* Study of the formation of hydrates in pipes:
  Elaboration of a programme calculating the necessary rate of
  inhibitor (programming in Fortran).

COMPUTER SKILLS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Familiar with Unix, Vax, Fortran, Latex, Matlab, Windows.

LANGUAGES
^^^^^^^^^^
* French (Mother tongue).
* Spanish.

LEISURE ACTIVITIES
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Volleyball, Scuba diving, Photo, Jazz, Theater, Traveling.
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From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Employment for Russians
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:58:49 GMT

In article 5@falcon.nsk.su,  Ivan Zvorygin <zvor@falcon.nsk.su> () writes:
>     Dear sirs,
>
>     I'm interesting in the e-mail adresses  of any
>     firms in USA, Canada, Western Europe and Australia,
>     employing the Russian people.
>     If anybody can help me,please reply to the e-mail:
>     zvor@falcon.nsk.su
>     Best regards,
>                                    Ivan A. Zvorygin
>


I tried to reply to your message but your mailer is generating an invalid
'From' header.

There are many, many companies in the USA which employ Russians.  Many of
the companies have e-mail addresses.  More accurately, many of the employees
have e-mail addresses.  If you are more specific about what kind of company 
you are seeking or why you want e-mail addresses, you are likely to get more
of a response.

There are other people in Novosibirsk who have posted here.  Perhaps they
can give you more assistance.  


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Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: upcr@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Pamela Reed)
Subject: information on USENET? 
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:09:42 GMT

Hi everyone,
I would like to have some information about the USENET. Could you
either email me or just post. Would I be able to get an account
and just telnet from my account? If anyone can help me.. Thank you
very much!
                  Pam
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Mail about misguided m.j.o posting gets terse response
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:25:25 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: leopard.zoo.cs.yale.edu

In article <C1IMuy.IJu.2@cs.cmu.edu> Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>You may have noticed yesterday this posting:
>
>   Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered
>   From: gordon@siemens.com (Igor Gordon)
>   Subject: FOR SALE: Ford Torus Wagen
>   Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
>   Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:24:03 GMT
>
>I thought this was inappropriate for m.j.o.  However, I didn't flame
>him publicly or anything especially rude like that; I just wrote him a
>short reply in mail, the entire text of it being:
>
>   "misc.jobs.offered?"
>   Come on, foolish man, get a grip on reality.
>
>I didn't go on at great length, I didn't insult his intelligence, I
>didn't demean his parentage, I just suggested (perhaps sarcastically)
>that he was being foolish, since cars for sale have rather little to
>do with job offerings.

If I were him (Igor) I would consider myself being insulted on 
receiving your first mail. You could have sent a more friendly mail.                            

>I thought you all might be amused to know that Mr Gordon has responded
>with a true masterwork of erudition, to wit:
>
>   Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 08:31:03 EST
>   From: gordon@cadillac.siemens.com (Igor Gordon)
>   To: Karl_Kleinpaste@GODIVA.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU
>   Subject: Re:  FOR SALE: Ford Torus Wagen
>
>   fuck you too
>
>That's it -- no actual cognition involved, obviously; just raw attitude.
>
>Style points for succinctness, though.


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: liu@eleceng.ee.QueensU.CA (Yong Liu)
Subject: Address of BNR Richardson, Texas
Organization: EE Dept., Queen's University
Distribution:  world
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:02:56 GMT


-- 
Would anyone kindly tell me the exact mailing address of the Bell Northern
Research (BNR) in Richardson, Texas?

Thanks in advance.
=============================================================================
John Liu 
Department of Electrical Engineering
Queen's University                       Phone:  (613)545-6693
Kingston, Ontario, Canada K7L 3N6        Email:  liu@sound.ee.queensu.ca
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