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From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: New Iron Maiden live album?
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:14:50 GMT

In article <LAVONIUS.92Aug28180147@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.133208.2335@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>
>   said something like this 'Iron Maiden recorded this concert and it
>   will be part of the forthcoming live album which should be released
            ^^^^
>   next year'. Any truth in this? I'd love to see another Iron Maiden
>
>I understand that they record at least ten gigs and piece an 'ultimate
>live album' out of them. Could be wrong of course.

I understood it this way too...
>
>How was Testament as a warmup band, did they even play any pre-Practice
>songs ? 

I don't know any Testament songs except Trial By Fire. They played it
there.. I didn't like Testament there at all, Testament really doesn't
fit in as Iron Maiden support act (IMHO). The sound quality was really
horrible! I wear earplugs in concerts (I care of my hearing and as I
go to concerts quite often, I've decided to wear those plugs) but
even then the music sounded horrible. Far too high. The crowd really
wasn't "in" Testament, most just stood / sat (like I) and waited them
to go away. Even Anthrax did better on Maiden's previous European tour
(No Prayer For The Dying tour 1990).

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
From: 9018767a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: KISS: ... Unholy, Enter Sandman
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:18:25 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Aug23.173538.5064@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> In article <18405.2a97f186@levels.unisa.edu.au> 9018767a@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>> Am I the only one who has noticed that "Unholy" is a slowed down version of
>>> "Enter Sandman" <at least the main riff>?
>>> 
>>> 				--Judex--
>>
>>Oh pleeassee!!  Let's not get carried away with this rip-off theme.  If you're
>> ...intelligent comments deleted
>>Scotti Pharlap Elvis Ringo Madonna Carrisma
> 
> Pardon me. I was figuring it out on my guitar, and noticed that the main riff
> is EXACTLY the same. If you want to talk rip-offs, lets bring up the fact that
> "Am I evil", Savatages "Prelude To Madness", and about 15 other songs all
> shamelessly ripoff "Mars" from "The Planets Suite" by Gustav Holst. 
> 
> I don't hear the "Summertime Blues" rip off. Sorry folks. The rest I would
> have to call Coincidence or Tribute.
> 
> 					--Judex--

I have also had a go at playing them on the guitar, and here's what
I came up with.

The riff to Enter Sandman goes sort of like this
(I know it's not exact)
  (the numbers are the fret positions)
  (the spacing between numbers does not accurately reflect the
   timing of the notes)

(Acoustic intro)
---------------------------------------------- E
---------------------------------------------- B
----0---------0------------------------------- G
--2---------2--------------------------------- D
------1-0-------1-0--------------------------- A
0---------0----------------------------------- E



(Distorted guitar)
---------------------------------------------- E
---------------------------------------------- B
---------------------------------------------- G
2---------2---------2---------5-------------2- D
2---------2---------2---------5-------------2- A
0-0-7-6-5-0-0-7-6-5-0-0-7-6-5-3-0-2-0-2-3-2-0- E


Unholy goes something like this 
(probably in the wrong key and probably slightly wrong)
---------------------------------------------- E
---------------------------------------------- B
---------------------------------------------- G
-6-7--6-7--------3-2---2-3-----3-2---2-3------ D
-4-5--4-5----1-1-----1-----1-1-----1---------- A
---------------------------------------------- E

Where I have 6-7 I think it is sliding a C# power chord up to 
             4-5 
a D power chord.

I can't really see a great similarity between the two except for the 
using of the diminished (flattented) fifth notes.


Feel free to mail me the correct tabulations if anyones got them.

Scotti Pharlap Carrisma
From: v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MATTMAN - RAEL IMPERIAL AEROSOL KID)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Axl's Departure!
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92238.131346JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu>, JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>The rumours may be true.  Slash has been doing work now with Michael Jackson
>on his Dangerous Album and will appear in Michael's next video.  A slight
>change of pace for Slash.
> 
>J K

chjeez man!!! what have you been living under for the past 3 years???

Slash did the sessions for the Dangerous album about 2 1/2 years ago,
and appeared with him on the MTV 10 special last year (right after 
Dangerous was released)

i'm surprised that anyone could forget that teary eyed song that Michael
did.  it made me weak at the knees before the porcelin god, i thought i'd
never see tuna cocktail again!!!



Matt Surowiec

   just another dude from Buffalo

               ...with a football team thats too stoopid to leave town
From: crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Unleashed and Suffocation
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:32:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


   On the subject of Unleashed, has anyone heard their latest release?
I assume it sounds somewhat like the first album, but I would enjoy
hearing others' opinions.
   On the matter of Suffocation, what's up with them?  Their last album
Effigy Of The Forgotten was incredible...are they still together?  Is a
new album in the works?
   Thanks for any info...

   Smegma 
-- 
Ernest Crvich                          A vomit-like substance
crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu               Is formed from its innards, 
general@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu                A festering slime         
ernest.crvich@bbs.oit.unc.edu          That revels inside.       
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu (Jeremy Lyn Hart)
Subject: Re: Alice Chains, Cornell, etc.
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Keywords: "Singles" Soundtrack
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:34:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.122624.6414@iscsvax.uni.edu>, turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

|> Speaking of the SINGLES soundtrack ... anyone who likes the "Seattle scene"
|> (please forgive me, but I couldn't help it) HAS to get this CD!  It's got two
|> songs from Pearl Jam ("Drown" is the best of the two and is better than a lot
|> of songs on TEN),

Just a nitpicky correction:  "Drown" is the Pumpkins song, Pearl Jam do
"Breath" and "State of Love and Trust," both excellent songs.
|> one from Smashing Pumpkins (good song!), one from Mother
|> Lovebone (cool, yeah, definitely cool, yeah), the A-Chains song (see above),
|> a Soundgarden song (probably one they recorded for BADMOTORFINGER that didn't
|> end up on the album; nothing special, but heavy riff),

Actually, from the sound of Chris' vocals, I figure they probably did it around
the time of "Louder Than Love," maybe before - Chris doesn't scream like
that much anymore, and it had the kind of weird-time stuff in it that's
all over "Louder...".

|> and a couple of good
|> songs from two bands I never heard of before.  But I saved the best for last
|> ... Chris Cornell (Soundgarden and Temple of The Dog for you Deicide guys) has
|> a song he performed and produced himself - WOW!!!  Way fucking cool.  It's
|> just acoustic guitars and his VOICE.  Man, this guy can sing.
|> 
|> Yeah, I'm a serious Cornell fan ... but he does most of his better work outside
|> of Soundgarden.  On TEMPLE he's brilliant.  And just hearing this one solo song
|> on SINGLES, I think some record company should give this guy a contract and
|> fast!  If he gets to get different musicians surrounding him on different
|> songs, he would come out with an album that would just blow away everybody. 
|> Now, don't think I'm knocking Garden, 'cause I'm a serious Garden fan, but
|> mabey I'm just ready for a new album ...

I agree that Chris is a kick-ass musician (guitarist *and* vocalist), but
hey, Soundgarden will never die. ;^> (I'm a fan, can't you tell?)

Later.
-- 
Jeremy L. Hart				jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu
"They say they built this fort 2000 years ago
 A man named James carved his name in 1983
 Congratulations, James
 Now you're a dick for eternity
 I don't know what your words for it are
 I just know what it is..."
	- "What It Is," by Too Much Joy, from _Mutiny_
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Blue Oyster Cult -- Bad Channels
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:42:03 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Aug27.140808.24656@linus.mitre.org>, jswartz@mbunix.mitre.org (Swartz) writes:
> I've been away for awhile, but I recall that BOC was suppossed to do
> the soundtrack for some science-fiction film called "Bad Channels" this
> summer.  My local record store has never heard of it.  Anybody out there
> know what's the deal?
> 
> JOHN

As a matter of fact, I saw it last night at Ear X-tacy. Can't tell you about
it, as I didn't pay much attention, but it was under the BOC section. This
particular record store is fairly comprehensive (e.g. they routinely stock the
_Metallica_ import) but at least I can assure you that it's out there
somewhere, though it may not be easy to find.

--Semhaza
From: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: W.A.S.P.
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:19:00 GMT
Reply-To: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434


Does anyone have a listing of what WASP played at the Donington show?
I'd really like to get a track listing, and **WHO** played there.

WASP is one of my favorite bands, and it's really aggravating, as I cannot get
the Crimson Idol album over here.   Checked everywhere, and no one has it.
In fact one place said, "No, we don't have it, and we WON'T be getting it,
either."

Nice attitude, eh?
From: adrian@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Adrian Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GNR/Metallica/Faith No More Buffalo Concert Review
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:18:30 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

v119qkv2@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (POE) writes:
> 		I arrived late to the show so I missed Faith No More.
> 	(Thank God.  I never even heard of them before.)  I arrived
> 	sometime during Metallica's performance.  They played Enter
> 	Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, Unforgiven, and One.  They
> 	played a bunch of other stuff that I never even heard of 
> 	before.  With only the one self-titled album, I guess they
> 	were cover tunes.  The crowd was really annoying when they
> 	were playing.  I was sitting down and couldn't see because
> 	people were standing up.  It was worse on the floor.  People
> 	were jumping on top of each other.  They were forming circle-
> 	like areas where people would jump and push other people.  It
> 	was really weird.

Maybe I'm just new here but I haven't got a clue what this guy is talking about.
Metallica has 5 albums plus an EP from which all the material comes from.
(Except for the Cover of Stone Cold Crazy on the Enter Sandman Single.)  I
saw them in Washington and they played straight off of the albums with a lot
off of Kill 'Em All
> 		Finally, the greatest heavy metal band of all time
> 	took the stage, Guns N' Fuckin' Roses!  Everyone sat down in
> 	awe of the god-like master himself, Axl Rose.  Hell, a few 
> 	fans were actually so overcome, they desided to take a nap on the
> 	floor!  The Gunners only played a few songs I didn't know.
> 	I guess they haven't come out as singles yet.  Axl looked
> 	really great, and he treated the crowd to about 8 costume
> 	changes!  I bet Madonna doesn't even do that many, let alone

What was the one song that Duff sang during the concert (at Washington)?  It
was the only song in the concert I couldn't place?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Tom Leranth)
Subject: HAHAHA  Get thee to a nunnery
Followup-To: Tweedle dee[Suaron]  &  Tweedle dum[Maple]
Summary: Faith NO More, alt.rock-n-roll.hard, posers_should_be_flamed_to_death 
Keywords: HAHAHA
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 04:23:11 GMT


      
     For the uninformed there is a group for posers ::

               alt.rock-n-roll.hard

     So.... discuss Death, Deicide, Samhain, Necrosanct, Detritus,...
            HERE
     but leave  the FNMs, GNRs, BOCs,...  in  alt.r-n-r.hard !  Please!

    
     This summer this newsgroup seemed to  cover _everything_but_metal_ !
          [exaggeration]

    
     BY THE WAY  .... IMO    Iron Maiden is  kaput! so is  Sabbath!
                          where are the Killers and Paranoids...
                          all they churn out now is trash.


     Tom

       Blinded by the twisted ways you live
    Kill for religion, will the Lord forgive?
    Idiocy has stricken your mind                         Death
    A real-life hell you will find

    What the hell's going on around here?              Suicidal
                                                          Tendencies
-- 
leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu       |   
leranth@point.cs.uwm.edu        |   How Can I Laugh Tomorrow,
                                |       When I Can't Even Smile Today
                                |                  -- Suicidal  Tendencies
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Axl's Departure!
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 14:39:18 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

<JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> The rumours may be true.  Slash has been doing work now with Michael Jackson
> on his Dangerous Album and will appear in Michael's next video.  A slight
> change of pace for Slash.
> 
 
Well, he has plenty of time. Axl's been sitting on his ass because of his
poor little bruised ego.
 
--Don
From: lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: New Iron Maiden live album?
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:01:47 GMT
Organization: Vidal Sassoon's Mosh&Go

In article <1992Aug28.133208.2335@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:

   I saw Maiden yesterday evening and I gotta say I really liked the
   gig... Today I bought one 'yellow paper' and there was an article
   about the gig. In the end of the article there was a mention which
   said something like this 'Iron Maiden recorded this concert and it
   will be part of the forthcoming live album which should be released
   next year'. Any truth in this? I'd love to see another Iron Maiden
   live album and I'd _REALLY_ love to see a Maiden live album recorded
   here in Finland! To my knowledge, only Mot|rhead has made a live album
   of their Finland gig.

I understand that they record at least ten gigs and piece an 'ultimate
live album' out of them. Could be wrong of course.

How was Testament as a warmup band, did they even play any pre-Practice
songs ? 

   --
     Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : I'm the son of a gun and the gun of a son
From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Douglas R Puchalski)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Mordred <mpls.>
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:44:09 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Aug30.171014.17595@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>Just got back from a party. I used to hang with a pretty good band that went
>nowhere, called "Metalstorm" . I always liked them and they had two really
>good musicians on guitar and drums. After about 5 years, Matt Nielson <guitar>
>and Mike Fust <drums, and now Vocals> have put out a tape.
>I won't oversell it. The production is about what to expect from a cassette
>4-track in their basement. But, these guys CAN play! 
>Under the name Mordred, <not too original, we know> they recorded 6 originals
>and called it "Battle Hymns". It's straight up Sword Metal with early
>Speedmetal influences. Mike is not too bad on the vocals, but his 
>drumming is intense! And Matt is one hot guitarist. the performances are
>energetic, and focused, but I really think it sounds like a BAND, and not
>a studio project. If you crank it, it sounds uncannily like they are in
>your living room! This bodes very well for their future, and I eagerly
>await the day they can afford real studio time.
>

Interesting.  Not too original?  Right.  My friend has a CD he bought
in Europe (I assume it's available here too) of a band called Mordred.
Sounded studio to me.  The name of the album is "In This Life".  The
band is speed-ish metal with quite a funkish/rap influence.  They have
the usual lineup of two guitars, drums, bass, vocals, but add a record
scratcher...quite original.

-- 
Doug Puchalski						drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:9660 alt.rock-n-roll.hard:389
From: nmcglynn@axion.bt.co.uk (N.A.McGlynn)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: Skid Row/Iron Maiden Donnington sets
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:53:25 GMT
Reply-To: nmcglynn@axion.bt.co.uk (N.A.McGlynn)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <1992Aug28.093742.16097@nic.funet.fi>, tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
|> *>Sanctuary
|> *>Running Free (with Adrian Smith)
|>  
|> Did they really play these two songs in that order?!?!? I thought that
|> Maiden always ends with Sanctuary... They played the same set
|> yesterday night here in Finland but Sanctuary was the last song and
|> Running Free (without Adrian Smith :-((((((((((() was right before it.

   Yes, it was in that order. Running Free was the last song played.

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From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: HAHAHA  Get thee to a nunnery
Keywords: HAHAHA
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:12:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Aug29.042311.15677@uwm.edu> leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Tom Leranth) writes:
>
>      
>     For the uninformed there is a group for posers ::
>
>               alt.rock-n-roll.hard
>
>     So.... discuss Death, Deicide, Samhain, Necrosanct, Detritus,...

Detritus?? Interesting you like them and Deicide.. what a weird combo!
They might be hitting the States with Seventh Angel and Dutch thrashers
Decision-D!

>            HERE
>     but leave  the FNMs, GNRs, BOCs,...  in  alt.r-n-r.hard !  Please!
>
>    
>     This summer this newsgroup seemed to  cover _everything_but_metal_ !
>          [exaggeration]

Too much Runs and Hosers for you? :-)

>
>    
>     BY THE WAY  .... IMO    Iron Maiden is  kaput! so is  Sabbath!
>                          where are the Killers and Paranoids...
>                          all they churn out now is trash.
>
>
>     Tom
>
>       Blinded by the twisted ways you live
>    Kill for religion, will the Lord forgive?
>    Idiocy has stricken your mind                         Death
>    A real-life hell you will find
>
>    What the hell's going on around here?              Suicidal
>                                                          Tendencies
>-- 
>leranth@miller.cs.uwm.edu       |   
>leranth@point.cs.uwm.edu        |   How Can I Laugh Tomorrow,
>                                |       When I Can't Even Smile Today
>                                |                  -- Suicidal  Tendencies


Phil

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:37:06 EDT
From: <JOB102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron

Penn State tends to be difficult about getting an account.  I talked to him
last semester outside of this newsgroup and his account was for a math class.
He isn't in a computer related major, so I doubt we'll see of him this semester
, unless he pays the $$$$ to purchase one.
From: mgallagh@neumann.une.edu.au (Victim Of Changes,,,)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Bands to tour Oz
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:16:01 GMT
Reply-To: mgallagh@neumann.une.edu.au
Originator: mgallagh@neumann.une.edu.au

From article <1992Aug25.101602.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au>, by eda124rsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au:
> Bands that I have heard are coming to Oz...
> 
> Carcass - beginning of next year (in fan newsletter from Carcass themselves)
> Iron Maiden - end of year (Small Possibility - radio)
  
  Question : If Iron Maiden don't come how can Carcass
  ( I cry injustice! )

> Guns 'n' Roses / Metallica - next year (Rumour)

  If they do, it'll be seperately...

  --- Gal ---
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: toka@niksula.hut.fi (Tomi Juhani Kause)
Subject: Garage Days missing song (was: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs)
Organization: Akseli M{kel{ society
	<1992Aug28.062425.19357@sfu.ca>
	<1992Aug28.162054.928@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:34:12 GMT

donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>P.S. Anyone have a nice copy of "Garage Days RE-RE-Visited"? I had gone
>through 4 of them, before I got one that wasn't defective, and I hear that
>that was a common problem. I was buying it on vinyl and one side always
>skipped...

Actually, I have two nice but different vinyl copies of the GDRRV:

I) Mercury
   side 1: Helpless, The Small Hours
   side 2: The Wait, Crash Course In Brain Surgery, Last Caress/Green Hell
   Made in Holland, cover printed in The Netherlands. 
II) Vertigo
   side 1: Helpless, Crash Course in Brain Surgery
   side 2: The Small Hours, Last Caress/Green Hell
   Neither the cover nor the vinyl contain any info about the country
   of origin.

Sorry if these are FAQs, but does anyone know the story behind these
different versions? Was the Vertigo 4-track version released on CD?
(Please don't flame me to death if all the US pressings of the CD have
only 4 tracks. :-)

Tomi Kause   Tomi.Kause@hut.fi   "Mark my last words. They might
Ti III	     toka@niksula.hut.fi  be what I just said."
From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: RE: METALLICA TAPES NEEDE
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

->       Pictures???  You took pictures??  Iwas standing right ext to
-> you..  Really??  I guess it's been longer than I tought..

You dont remember.  The camera was down my pants and so was the tape
recorder.  You said how did you get both of them down their.