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Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: Re: os 2.1 beta at waikato is ok
From: nholford@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Nick Holford)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:46:29 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

srodgers@waikato.ac.nz writes:

>nb - to all those people out there putting of getting a 486 - just do it,its
>only money. You will like the results if you use os2.

Dont forget to budget for 8Mb RAM (at least). If you add TCP/IP, NFS etc
you will appreciate another 4 to 8 Mb as well!

I am a more or less happy user of OS/2 2.0 (plus a few fixes). I have
not attempted to install 2.1b because reports suggest it offers no
improvement over a working 2.0 if one does not need Win 3.1 (and I dont
because I use OS/2!).
Any NZ users of 2.1b got any arguements for "upgrading" to 2.1b?

-- 

Nick Holford, Dept Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology
University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
INTERNET: n.holford@aukuni.ac.nz
From: srodgers@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: re: os 2.1 beta at waikato is ok
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:30:32 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

OS2 ver 2.1 b is 26 1.44mb disks long (not including mmpm2 wich is 2 disks).
Also I did finally get mmpm2 goung with my soundblaster pro 2, the problem was
that 1) the supplied device drivers apparently do not like irq 10 and 2)the
install program is faulty and does not install a dll file. the way around this
is to install m-audio board but set number of boards to zero.
OH yes also mmpm2 is not on our ftp site but if anyone wants it i have it
and will put it up (this is also free to anyone uses 2.1b) on our ftp, simply
mail me to let me know

Steve Rodgers
Computer Services Workshop
University Of Waikato

email SRODGERS@WAIKATO.AC.NZ

nb - to all those people out there putting of getting a 486 - just do it,its
only money. You will like the results if you use os2.
Newsgroups: nz.archives
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, PC Software Consultant, CSC, UoC, NZ)
Subject: Re: OS 2.1 Beta at Waikato soon
Reply-To: Nick FitzGerald <n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:35:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.123006.11756@actrix.gen.nz>, chris@actrix.gen.nz
(Chris Double) writes:

[I deleted Chris quoting from my earlier post]
> From what I understand, IBM has released the OS/2 2.1 beta as a WIDE
> release. It is available to anyone who asks for it. 
> 
> IBM will supply the CD containing the beta for $15 in the
> USA. Even IBM's own ftp site (software.watson.ibm.com) has the beta
> available for download.

Since seeing this, I have found out that for US$15 you can also obtain a
CD-ROM PDK of OS/2 2.1 (professional developers kit -- kind of like the
MS Windows NT developers kit).  As well as having the 2.1 beta, it
reputedly contains compilers, beta SDK, on-line docs, TCP/IP networking
software and the X version of PM (which sort of does for OS/2 what DV/X
does for DOS/Windows).

> Apparently they are relying on the fact that people will not want to
> stick with the beta code and will buy the actual release when it
> comes out.

First I'll have to go out and buy that 486 I've been promising myself
for so long ...

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
 n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz  TEL:+64(3)364 2337, FAX:+64(3)364 2332
Newsgroups: nz.archives
From: chris@actrix.gen.nz (Chris Double)
Subject: Re: OS 2.1 Beta at Waikato soon
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:30:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.140517.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> Nick FitzGerald <n.fitzgerald> writes:
	<Note about the OS/2 2.1 beta being available deleted>
> 
> How is this possible??
> 
> Is IBM in such strife they have released their s/w to the public domain
> before they finally fold??   8-)
> 
> Or is it a "patch kit" which requires an already installed version of
> OS/2 to load on top of?
> 
From what I understand, IBM has released the OS/2 2.1 beta as a WIDE
release. It is available to anyone who asks for it. 

IBM will supply the CD containing the beta for $15 in the
USA. Even IBM's own ftp site (software.watson.ibm.com) has the beta
available for download.

Apparently they are relying on the fact that people will not want to
stick with the beta code and will buy the actual release when it
comes out.

Regards,

Chris Double.
chris@actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: Re: OS 2.1 Beta at Waikato soon
From: hamish@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:01:07 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: Comp Sci, U of Waikato, New Zealand
NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz

In article <1993Jan25.153550.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> Nick FitzGerald <n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> writes:
|In article <1993Jan22.123006.11756@actrix.gen.nz>, chris@actrix.gen.nz
|(Chris Double) writes:
|
|[I deleted Chris quoting from my earlier post]
|> From what I understand, IBM has released the OS/2 2.1 beta as a WIDE
|> release. It is available to anyone who asks for it. 
|> 
|> IBM will supply the CD containing the beta for $15 in the
|> USA. Even IBM's own ftp site (software.watson.ibm.com) has the beta
|> available for download.
|
|Since seeing this, I have found out that for US$15 you can also obtain a
|CD-ROM PDK of OS/2 2.1 (professional developers kit -- kind of like the

Umm... Not really. The 2.1 beta SDK only has OS/2 2.1 and a beta of the toolkit
(Including kernel debugger etc).

There is also available the Dec PDK (In US Its the Nov PDK, for some 
reason we are about 1 month behind), and its 75$ Australian. (About $100 NZ).
This CD holds everything. CSet/2 C++, Toolkit, Utils, Applets, Workframe,
Toolkit, Kernel Debugger, ASDT (Better debugger for OS/2 than the kernel 
debugger), and lots lots more. Oh yeah Almost full online docs including
BookManager/2 needed to read it. 

|MS Windows NT developers kit).  As well as having the 2.1 beta, it
|reputedly contains compilers, beta SDK, on-line docs, TCP/IP networking
|software and the X version of PM (which sort of does for OS/2 what DV/X
|does for DOS/Windows).
|
|> Apparently they are relying on the fact that people will not want to
|> stick with the beta code and will buy the actual release when it
|> comes out.
|
|First I'll have to go out and buy that 486 I've been promising myself
|for so long ...
|

Me too...


-- 
|  Hamish Marson.                  | INTERNET h.marson@waikato.ac.nz |
|  University of Waikato           | PHONE    +64 7 8562889 xt 8181  |
|  New Zealand                     | FAX      +64 7 8384066          |
===========Disclaimer :- Remember. You heard it here first.===========
Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: Re: os 2.1 beta at waikato is ok
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:45:33 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

nholford@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Nick Holford) writes:

> srodgers@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> 
> >nb - to all those people out there putting of getting a 486 - just do it,its
> >only money. You will like the results if you use os2.
> 
> Dont forget to budget for 8Mb RAM (at least). If you add TCP/IP, NFS etc
> you will appreciate another 4 to 8 Mb as well!
> 
> I am a more or less happy user of OS/2 2.0 (plus a few fixes). I have
> not attempted to install 2.1b because reports suggest it offers no
> improvement over a working 2.0 if one does not need Win 3.1 (and I dont
> because I use OS/2!).
> Any NZ users of 2.1b got any arguements for "upgrading" to 2.1b?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Nick Holford, Dept Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology
> University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
> INTERNET: n.holford@aukuni.ac.nz

 
 It does seem to load a little quicker than 2.0 (might be me expecting
 great things) however like you say unless you need the Windows 3.1
 support there is not alot I have found to make you change. 
 
 reXX seems a little quicker as well is this my imagination or is the
 file handling been improved for non hpfs formats (DOS) with rexx?


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Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: Re: OS 2.1 Beta at Waikato soon
From: hamish@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:39:07 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: Comp Sci, U of Waikato, New Zealand
NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz

In article <1993Jan21.140517.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> Nick FitzGerald <n.fitzgerald> writes:
|In article <1993Jan21.085949.13345@waikato.ac.nz>, ccc_rex@waikato.ac.nz writes:
|
|> We FTPed OS 2.1 Beta 3.5" disk distribution to Waikato last night.
|> 
|> I will make it available for NZ access on ftphost.waikato.ac.nz later today.
|
|How is this possible??
|

Easily...

|Is IBM in such strife they have released their s/w to the public domain
|before they finally fold??   8-)
|

Nope. Personal Systems made a profit last year. (Even if the mainframes did
lose 5 billion US...

|Or is it a "patch kit" which requires an already installed version of
|OS/2 to load on top of?
|

Nope.

Its a full working version (Albeit a beta) of OS/2 2.1

It has a limited licence, and assorted bugs. But you can report the bugs to IBM
and get them fixed :)

PS. Yes it is legal. Its actually on IBM's ftp server as well for downloading.
The theory behind it being get as much exposure as possible and people will
buy the real thing when it gets released. It worked for 2.0 (Although the
beta wasn't as wide, it was available from Compu$erve). It will probably
work even better for 2.1 give the extra people on the Internet c/w C$.




-- 
|  Hamish Marson.                  | INTERNET h.marson@waikato.ac.nz |
|  University of Waikato           | PHONE    +64 7 8562889 xt 8181  |
|  New Zealand                     | FAX      +64 7 8384066          |
===========Disclaimer :- Remember. You heard it here first.===========
From: srodgers@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: Re: os2 2.1 beta (should you upgrade)
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:44:57 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I did some benckmarks on graphics spped out of interest using 3dbench on my
486sx25 /8mb and found that 2.1 was .1frame per second slower in 800*600*265
than 2.0 is in 640*480*16.
IMHO that alone is worth it.

Steve Rodgers.

Newsgroups: nz.archives
From: mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mark Davies)
Subject: Use of gzip in VUW Comp Sci Archive
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 02:10:01 GMT


As from today the /archive subtree of the VUW Comp Sci Archive is stored in
"gzip" format rather than "compress" format.  Files in other parts of the
archive may either be in compressed form (with a .Z extension) or gzip form
(with a .z extension).

If you do not have gzip it is available from the archive as:
	/pub/gzip.tar
or
	/pub/packages/gnu/gzip-0.8.2.tar

cheers
mark
(Yes we're short of space :-)
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From: lorraine@caliban.crd.ge.com (Peter Lorraine)
Newsgroups: capdist.general,capdist.misc
Subject: Recommendations sought for local move
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:53:53 GMT
Followup-To: capdist.general,capdist.misc
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

My wife and I will be moving from our apartment in Clifton Park to a house in 
Niskayuna in February.  We have a reasonable amount of furniture which we
would like a professional (or at least semi-professional) to move but will
carry all other goods over ourselves.  

Does anyone have any recommendations, warnings, or experiences with local
movers?  I am still a little stunned by all the closing costs and would
prefer not to spend a lot.  We don't know yet whether we will go with
"Two-Guys-With-A-Truck" or a brand name outfit.

Any and all opinions are welcome,

thanks a lot,

         Peter Lorraine
         lorraine@crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: capdist.seminars
From: halderc@nova.cs.rpi.edu (Carol Halder)
Subject: RPI Computer Science Colloquium
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: ny
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:51:05 GMT


                        Professor Gene Golub
                       Stanford University

         Cyclic Reduction: History and Recent Developments

Cyclic reduction was originally a technique developed to solve
tri-diagonal systems of linear equations. Subsequently it was found
that the same device can be used for solving block tri-diagonal
systems and in particular systems that arise in the discretization of
Poisson's equation. Here we describe these methods and show how they
can be used in connection with a variety of problems. The algorithms
seem particularly appropriate for parallel architectures.

                     THURSDAY, JANUARY 28, 1993
                   AMOS EATON 214 - 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM
                           REFRESHMENTS 3:30 PM








The host for this colloquium is Franklin Luk.

Newsgroups: capdist.seminars,sunya.cs.general
From: hammond@csc.albany.edu (William F. Hammond)
Subject: Math Colloquium
To: matmsgs@csc.albany.edu
Cc: bboard
Organization: The University at Albany, Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:54:57 GMT
Return-Path: <hammond@csc.albany.edu>


	       Department of Mathematics and Statistics
		       The University at Albany

			      COLLOQUIUM

		 Prof. Frank Morgan, Williams College

	"Soap Bubble Clusters: New Results and Open Problems"

		       Friday, January 29, 1993

			  4:00 p.m.,  ES 140

			 Tea at 3:30,  ES 152

Newsgroups: capdist.announce
From: thull@scott.skidmore.edu (theresa hull)
Subject: PC Expo/Sale 1/24/93
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:33:44 GMT

Big PC Expo/Sale this Sunday at the Knickerbocker Arena. Hours are 10
AM - 4 PM.  Looks Big.
From: gross@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Walter Douglas Gross)
Newsgroups: dc.housing
Subject: For Rent In The Vicinity Of College Park
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:48:00 GMT
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


   -------      N.B. This is posted for a friend.     -------------
   -------            Reply info is below.            -------------
   -------   Please do NOT reply to gross@nssdca-etc. -------------

A brand new, big, beautiful house for three people to share in
a quiet new development in Beltsville, Md.
------------------------------------------------
Fire place, dish washer, w/d, cable, telephone in  each room.  Big
kitchen, living room, dining room, family room.  Lots of storage
space. Close to University of Maryland, NASA, The Agricultural
Center, 495, BW Parkway.

Two bdrms are available:   $260/mo & $290/mo (very large bdrm)
+ 1/3 utilities (not to exceed $60./mo).   Put your own furniture in
the bedroom, or use mine.

To qualify,  you have to be a non-smoking,  very clean, quiet
individual. A minimum of 6 months stay is required.  Also,
a deposit in the amount of one month rent is a must.

Reply to Jacob Roginsky at 301-595-7359. (If I am not home, leave
a message on my answering machine.)   You can also
send me e-mail at:  roginsky@i5160b.nrl.navy.mil
From: jdoak@lab1.smcm.edu (Jennifer L. Doak)
Newsgroups: dc.housing
Subject: Univ. of MD area
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:46:08 GMT


I'm considering the possibility of transfering to UM next fall semester  
and looking into an apartment.  Wondering if anyone can give me an  
approximate (lower range) price for such a thing as I'm not familiar with  
how much it would be....

I'm an undergrad, but mature and responsible, as well as quiet and  
non-drinking/non-smoking...

thanks

jen

jdoak@oyster.smcm.edu
From: steveg@access.digex.com (Stephen Grant)
Newsgroups: dc.housing
Subject: Virginia Comments Sought
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:43:48 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: dc
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

Hi. I am thinking about moving to Virginia from Maryland. I am
somewhat miffed over several things about maryland and see
virginia as a more hip-hop less liberal state. (We'll stifle
all criticism here.. its just my own opinion anyway).

Can anyone suggest a nice area of northern virginia to live
which is not obscenely close to D.C. (such as Alex, Falls Church,
etc)... I am currently looking at Mclean, Reston and Other
areas in and around the reston area. Any recommendations, warnings
or suggestions? I am single and would be looking for apartments,
1 bedroom preferrably.

Any help welcome.. Thanks!

Steve

Newsgroups: dc.housing,um.housing
From: pkchiu@wam.umd.edu (P. Chiu)
Subject: HOUSING AVAILABLE IMMEDIATELY
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: um
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:03:20 GMT


I need someone to sublet for me until the end of July, 1993.

The apartment is:
 
  - a 10 minute walk to South Gate
  - on the shuttle route
  - shared bedroom with a really nice girl
  - unfurnished bedroom
  - full kitchen
  - w/d, ac, electric 
  - one month deposit is required
  - rent is $237.50 + 1/3 utilities
  - next to the Calvert Post Office and near the Calvert Rd 
      Marc Train Station
  - very nice safe quiet area
  - great neighborhood

For more information ask for Peggy at (301)314-3375 or (301) 953-8865
From: MBOYD@mitre.org
Newsgroups: dc.housing
Subject: Seeking Room in Reston\Herndon Area
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:59:02 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

Reston\Herndon area
 
Prof., M, 31, clean, quiet, responsible, non-smoker, with references,
looking for bedroom in exchange for home services such as landscaping,
security, emergency assistance, etc.
 
Please call Martin, H (301)762-6322 or W (703)883-5203
Newsgroups: dc.housing
From: rclaude@worldbank.org (Ray Claude, 885/46, R6013, 32040)
Subject: House to share, Alex,Va.
Reply-To: rclaude@worldbank.org
Organization: The World Bank
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:46:55 GMT

Looking for a  non-smoker M/F to share large house in Alex. Va.  Seminary area.
15 mins. to DC.  Close to shopping and bus service.

$400 + 1/3 utilities. 

Call (703)751-8983 ask for Barbara
From: michaels@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Michaelson)
Newsgroups: dc.housing
Subject: Apt. Bthesda-Glen Echo
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:15:30 GMT
Reply-To: michaels@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Michaelson)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Do not e-mail me.  I'm posting this for a friend.

Rent- 2 bedroom apt. w/ den. washer dryer, AC, separate level
in house, quiet neighborhood in bethesda area 1 block from
canal towpath. Available Feb. 1 to non-smoker. No Pets.
PHONE: 301-320-6006
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From: hwang@cs.umd.edu (Eenjun Hwang)
Newsgroups: dc.housing,um.housing
Subject: ROOM FOR RENT
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:14:40 GMT
Followup-To: dc.housing
Distribution: um
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742



   I am looking for a nice roommate.

  	* Located in University Square Apt 

	* Central  A/C and heat

	* One minute walking dist. to Metro/Shuttle stop

	* Near to the Greenbelt Lake

	* Walking dist. to shopping center and library

	* Available since Feb. 1, 1993

	* Swimming pool, near to the health center

	* $255 + 1/3 utilities


	Please call 301-513-0843 ( after 8:00 pm )
	   or email to hwang@brillig.umd.edu

Newsgroups: dc.housing
From: lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer)
Subject: Room in Takoma
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:03:10 GMT

Room for rent in large Takoma Park home with 2 environmentally 
conscious women and a young boy. No smokers or pets. $350
+ 1/3 utilities. Window AC,w/d,lots of storage,2 blocks from metro.
From: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Newsgroups: dc.smithsonian
Subject: Re: Antartica & Fires of Kuwait in IMAX at Air & Space -- Must See!
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:17:02 GMT
Reply-To: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Carderock

In dc.smithsonian, sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta) writes:
>burgoyne@digex.digex.com (J. Robert Burgoyne) writes:
>
>> Showtimes are 18:00 and 18:45 on Saturday & Sunday.
>>
>> Sunday night I saw these two films. Cost is $5, and it's recommended
>> that you show up by about 16:30 to purchase your tickets. The films
>> are only shown on Saturday & Sunday night (or so they say).
>
>Is that $5 for both or for each?
>

gee, they must have changed their scheduling.  i saw both
of these (on different nights) during the week.

the cost is $3.75/movie ($2.00/movie if you bring your
student ID).

lito lucena
lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil
 now at  :  dtmb, cdhq, nwsc          'if the defaults weren't good enough,
 formerly: dtrc, carderock                  they wouldn't be defaults.....'
							bill's sister
Newsgroups: dc.smithsonian
From: wheelerd@tt.com (David Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Antartica & Fires of Kuwait in IMAX at Air & Space -- Must See!
Organization: Telecommunications Techniques Corporation, Germantown MD
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:43:58 GMT

In article <02JoXB1w165w@monsoon.com> sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta) writes:
>burgoyne@digex.digex.com (J. Robert Burgoyne) writes:
>
>> Showtimes are 18:00 and 18:45 on Saturday & Sunday.
>> 
>> Sunday night I saw these two films. Cost is $5, and it's recommended
>> that you show up by about 16:30 to purchase your tickets. The films
>> are only shown on Saturday & Sunday night (or so they say).
>
>Is that $5 for both or for each?
>
>Sunil Gupta
>Monsoon Software, Inc.
>sg@monsoon.com

$5 for Both.  Where can you beat that?

And I definitely agree that these are must-see's!

-- 

David Wheeler (wheelerd@tt.com)            |  Anybody know how to send
Telecommunications Techniques Corporation  |  E-mail to/from Usenet/Internet
Germantown, Maryland                       |  to the French Minitel system?
From: kevinob@access.digex.com (K. O'Brien)
Newsgroups: dc.smithsonian
Subject: Re: SR-71 at Air Force Museum
Date: 22 Jan 1993 03:50:28 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications Service, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

Having grown up in the Dayton area (within view of Wright-Patterson AFB) I can
confirm this, and add that not only is there an SR-71 in the Modern Flight
Gallery, there is, if memory serves, a YF-12 in the Museum annex.  It was where
the Blackbird resides now until the AF passed out Blackbirds all around the
country, including one to the AFM.

Kevin O'Brien
gryphon@access.digex.com
From: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: CASUAL biking club wanted
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:11:15 GMT
Reply-To: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Distribution: na
Organization: Oceans & Ice Branch, NASA/GSFC/GSC


Hey,
 I have this nice hybrid bike I almost never use.  Can someone
tell me if there are any local (north part of beltway) clubs or
groups that ride for fun and exercise that I could ride with? 

Much thanks,
 Brian
From: mulvihil@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lawrence Mulvihill)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Lee Michael Demsey: anniversary
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: mulvihil@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lawrence Mulvihill)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.general, des@helix.nih.gov (David E. Scheim) writes:
>
>Because WAMU made a stupid decision to drop LMD, don't blame it on Diane
>Rehm, please! 

I didn't.