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From: stephan@sunlab.ka.sub.org (Stephan Niemz)
Subject: HELP!  Netfax 3.2 on SVR3.2
Summary: Netfax won't get compiled on my system
Organization: just a little private UNIX box in Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:13:03 GMT

Now that I have a Supra Fax Modem, I would like to be able to send
and receive faxes, too.

So I tried to install Netfax 3.2, but the compiler always claims
that there is no sys/time.h header file, no select function, and
so on.

Has somebody else tries to install Netfax on SVR3? How do I have
to patch the sources to make things work?

Any hints would be appreciated!

		Stephan.


[To the German readers: Followups bitte in English, es sei denn
Du nimmst die internationalen Gruppen aus der Newsgroups-Zeile
heraus.]
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: ged@phantom.cs.hut.fi (Camillo S{rs)
Subject: Re: Latest ROM version for Supra Faxmodem+ V32bis
Reply-To: Camillo.Sars@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:37:52 GMT

In <olof.714082319@ida.dsir.govt.nz> olof@ida.dsir.govt.nz (Olof Olsson) writes:

>What is the latest ROM version for the Supra Faxmodem+ V32bis?
>My ROM version is 1.200c.

1.200C is the newest one, with an upgrade IMMINENT.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: Re: request for ZyXEL FAX modem RS232 traces
Organization: none
	<1992Aug16.152933.1756@tasha.guug.de>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:20:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.152933.1756@tasha.guug.de> work@tasha.guug.de (Felix Blank) writes:

   >I think the easiest thing to do at this point would be to put a line
   >monitor on a PC and use ZyXEL's ZFAX program to send and receive a
   >couple multi-page faxes.

   >Does someone have the equipment handy to do this?  You could do some
   >of us a big favor if you would do this and post the traces...

   Such a trace would be great. I am no working for 4 weeks to get it running,
   but with less success. What makes the thing even worth, Zyxel changed a
   lot of between ROM releases. Some part, which worked well with older
   releases stop working and other part, which never did the right thing,
   are doing well with newer releases.

It has occurred to me since I asked for trace info, that the ZFAX
software probably does not use the class II commands.  Which brings up
the question, is there *any* package that works well with a ZyXEL
using its class II interface?  (I really should say, pseudo class II,
since class II is not a standard yet.)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Fax software with OS/2.
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:14:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.134210.9614@donau.et.tudelft.nl> anto@dutetvd.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Has anybody got any luck with fax software QuickLink? I didn't. I have
> Dallas fax/modem 2496 VC and until now I can't send or receive any fax.
> Strange enough, I did send fax but they only receive 'one' line. 
> 
> I use OS/2 2.0. The QuickLink is a DOS program, and if I boot DOS (not
> 'Boot DOS from A:' of OS/2) I can use it without any problem. Other
> utilities from QuickLink did run under DOS-OS/2. No problem.
> 
> The error is always at the point that the program sends the first page, and 
> it sends only 8% (from the send-fax-windows). After that the program
> stops and gets error SYS3176. I have to kill it.
> 
> I tried also MTEZ with the same result.
> 
> Does anybody have this kind of experience or solutions? 

Faxing from a DOS vdm  requires more than 1,000 interrupts/second. OS/2 will
not supply this level of service. To do so would allow one task to gain a
level of service that would affect other tasks significantly.
 
There is no problem if you use a native OS/2 fax program. I know of three.
 
Bitfax for OS/2 - from Bit Software of Fremont, California. I use this program
and have found it to be very good. I prefer it to Winfax Pro, which I used to
use until I switched from Windows 3.1 to OS/2 v2. I paid US$99 + shipping for
this program - money well spent!

There is also PMfax - written by a company called Keller Group. I don't know
where they are located.

There is also FAXit - which i believe is another version of PMfax (as is
Bitfax). I don't know who sells this.
 
All three programs may have been written by the same company and are now being
sold under three different names - with slight differences in functionality.
 
Get Bitfax. With a PM word processor - including the free DeScribe demo - it
works very well. I am told you can also fax frm DOS applications, but I
haven't tried it.
 
Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: request for ZyXEL FAX modem RS232 traces
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:22:02 GMT

Judging by this group and my email, there seem to be a fair number of
people who are interested in getting the ZyXEL modem working with
netfax 3.2.  Unfortunately, documentation is lacking on the FAX mode
of the ZyXEL.

I think the easiest thing to do at this point would be to put a line
monitor on a PC and use ZyXEL's ZFAX program to send and receive a
couple multi-page faxes.

Does someone have the equipment handy to do this?  You could do some
of us a big favor if you would do this and post the traces...
From: Lyle_Seaman@TRANSARC.COM
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: stuff on the Zero/One BBS (was Re: request for ZyXEL FAX modem RS232 traces)
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:30:42 GMT

fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner) writes:
> I seem to recall that someone at Zero/One did this, and put the trace up on
> their BBS for download.  The Zero/One BBS is +1 714 693-0762.

There are also a couple of modified versions of netfax there.  If
someone could snag these and put them up for anon ftp, I'd greatly
appreciate it.  Alternatively, I can put them out for anon ftp, if
someone else will snag the files.  I've tried, but my version of
kermit and their version of kermit conspire against me.

Lyle		Transarc		707 Grant Street
412 338 4474	The Gulf Tower		Pittsburgh 15219
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wcsv2k@alfred.carleton.ca (Karen Costa)
Subject: X.25 FAXpads (x.5)
Summary: New X.5 compliant X.25 FAXpads
Keywords: FAXpads X.5 - X.25
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:11:16 GMT

There is a company in Montreal that makes X.5 compliant FAXpads.
They are called Voice and Data Systems
Call Don MacTaggart (514) 879 8585 ext 209
                   FAX (514) 879 8586

This is in reply to posting of Bill Skidmore - when I try to e-mail
get bounced Mail
Bill St. Arnaud
VISION 2000
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Help with Supra Fax command set wanted
From: olof@ida.dsir.govt.nz (Olof Olsson)
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:30:21 GMT
Organization: DSIR/IDA Auckland, New Zealand

I am having some serious problems with the Supra faxmodem and Netfax (Gnu)
3.2 running on a SPARC/IPX. The software/modem communicates just fine with
most fax machines. However, for some remote fax machines I always get a
"FNHG: 52" after the first page. 

I have been studying the Netfax source code carefully and tried a couple of
different modifications, but so far no good..

A couple of questions regarding the Supra class 2 commads:

1) My Rockwell chip set manual states that the "AT+FDT" command should
   *not* have any arguments. However, the Netfax software is using the
   command *with* arguments ("AT+FDT, DF, VR, WD, LN"). Who is right
   and who is wrong here? 

2) The Netfax software is using the "+FDIS command to set-up the modem
   (in gen.c:faxmodem_sync()). Shouldn't +FDCC be used instead?

I have tried to e-mail to the Netfax bug e-mail-address 
(bug-fax@ai.mit.edu) but there seems to be nobody at home :-)

It seems like the netfax/supra combination fails to send faxes (with the
FHNG: 52 return code) when the connection is made at 7200 bps. 
(+FDCS 0,3,0,2,0,0,0,3) and succeds when the connection is made at
9600 bps (+FDCS 0,3,0,3,0,0,0,5). This conclusion might me totally
wrong though. I have only tested this on an extremely small number of
fax machines...

I would be extremely grateful if somebody out there could help me to shed
some light on my problems. BTW, does Supra have any e-mail support?
(Maybe even some ftp site??)

Thanks in advance,

	Olof


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From: colley@wang.com (Mike Colley)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: What Converters to TIFF are available and where?
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:28:55 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

Can anybody tell me what converters are available that convert to TIFF?

And Where are they at?  It would be better if they were available on
mail-servers because I don't have FTP here.

If I get requests I will summarize to the net.

Please reply to the net or 
uudell.dell.com!sneezy!mcolley

Thanks a Lot  - Mike 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: HELP! Netfax 3.2 on SVR3.2
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:00:21 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745

jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.101303.12967@sunlab.ka.sub.org> stephan@sunlab.ka.sub.org (Stephan Niemz) writes:

>Netfax was written for a BSD-ish type system.  There are going to be
>lots of incompatibilities on an SVR3 system; you're looking at a lot
>of work.  It compiles OK under SVR4.

I have found that many things written for BSD compile with little
or no work under SVR4 (at least with Dell SVR4 4.0)..

Has anyone worked with NexFax using a US Robitics FAX HST/V.32bis modem?

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From: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: DOS BITFAX AND USR
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114/6059* *v32bis/HST
Reply-To: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 

There's a bbs network that uses a system of boards to allow callers to
send faxes to long-distance locations.

They use the dos version of Bitfax to do this.  I'm about to get a
USRobotics Sportster Faxmodem and my dealer has tried to use Bitfax with
it and failed.  He says the modem lights flash, but Bitfax says there
isn't a modem there.

Has anyone been able to get this combo to work?  Could it be that he's
using an ancient version of Bitfax?

Thanx.
                                                      
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: wherefor NetFax? (was HELP! Netfax 3.2 on SVR3.2
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 16:03:56 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <BtE1LL.Dyo@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>it's available via ftp (or the 1-900) service from uunet -- or

You can also get it from prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/fax-3.2.1.tar.Z.

Be advised, though, that this software is nowhere near release-level
code, and installing is not going to be anywhere near plug-and-play.
There is almost zero documentation on how to set it up; the code is
littered with numerous BSDisms and other porting nightmares; and the
makefiles are very poorly written.  In short, the software
distribution looks more like a source tree snapshot than it does a
software release.

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                            | to need later.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: olof@ida.dsir.govt.nz (Olof Olsson)
Subject: Latest ROM version for Supra Faxmodem+ V32bis
Organization: DSIR/IDA Auckland, New Zealand
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:11:59 GMT

What is the latest ROM version for the Supra Faxmodem+ V32bis?
My ROM version is 1.200c.

Thanks,

	Olof


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Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:1559 comp.dcom.modems:12404
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: wherefor NetFax? (was HELP! Netfax 3.2 on SVR3.2
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:00:57 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745

jjhayes@nbrwh75.bnr.ca (Jeff Hayes) writes:


>about this NetFax pkg: is it PD or comm'l s/w?  
>in either case where can i get a copy.  i have a high speed fax/modem

it's available via ftp (or the 1-900) service from uunet -- or
we have it available here on our BBS for downloading along with
lots of other software -- but be advised -- we are a subscription
service the number is 219-289-3745 and I believe the latest copy
of NetFAX Is in file area number 99.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG
Subject: Re: Latest ROM version for Supra Faxmodem+ V32bis
Reply-To:  <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> (Bruce Gingery)
Organization:  Total System Software
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:11:43 GMT

olof@ida.dsir.govt.nz (Olof Olsson) writes:
: What is the latest ROM version for the Supra Faxmodem+ V32bis?
: My ROM version is 1.200c.
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: 	Olof


If you wish to remove the cover, you'll find those ROMs to be marked as
the ``F'' revision ROMs on affixed small white stickers -- no real need
to check.

    These ROMs contain the fixes for data mode retrain, ( the %G setting) and
S110 support for enable/disable V.32bis.  Also these are broken with regard
to Adaptive answer, incapable of accepting mixed Fax and Data calls.  When
Adaptive answer is enabled, data calls are locked out.

    We understand from Supra that a maintenance release is due out within
the next few days.  Previous newsgroup posts have indicated that the new
ROMs should be shipped to anyone who has sent in their registration card
to Supra.

Bruce
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: fsw@gtech.com (Fred S. Wright)
Subject: Re: Fax as scanner?
Keywords: color fax
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:13:15 GMT


To: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Fax as scanner?
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Cc: 
Bcc: 

In article <56056@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>:
>Sorry if this is old stuff, but I have not read this group before.
>
>I have a friend who wants to know how (if at all possible) to hook a
>fax machine up to his PC compatible so it can also be used as a
>scanner.
>
>His theory is that if he can receive faxes directly to his machine
>with the right software, and he has a regular hard copy fax, the two
>should be able to be made to work together.
>
>Please send email responses to sjh@math.purdue.edu
>
>Thanks.
>
On the similar note, I am looking for a COLOR fax / scanner to be used
with a windows based PC, possible in a LANTASTIC network environment.

Ideally, the color fax should be able to scan/fax/print in full color.  Does
anyone know of a source for this type of equipment?

Please send email responses to fsw@soft.gtech.com

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: request for ZyXEL FAX modem RS232 traces
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:16:20 GMT

In article <JHPB.92Aug17072024@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us> jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.152933.1756@tasha.guug.de> work@tasha.guug.de (Felix Blank) writes:
>
>   >Does someone have the equipment handy to do this?  You could do some
>   >of us a big favor if you would do this and post the traces...
>
>   Such a trace would be great. I am no working for 4 weeks to get it running,
>   but with less success. What makes the thing even worth, Zyxel changed a
>   lot of between ROM releases. Some part, which worked well with older
>   releases stop working and other part, which never did the right thing,
>   are doing well with newer releases.
>
>It has occurred to me since I asked for trace info, that the ZFAX
>software probably does not use the class II commands.  Which brings up
>the question, is there *any* package that works well with a ZyXEL

It works fine with my software. I borrowed one a few weeks back and
it was only a few minutes to get it profiled and tested. Unfortunately it's 
been returned so I can't run a trace.

From my notes:

	1. ZyXEL doesn't seem to implement +fmdl or +frev, ati will
	   return ROM rev if required

	2. ZyXEL responds like an Everex for +fmfr? (not like Rockwell)

	3. ZyXEL basically responds like Rockwell based fax modems
	   (like Supra or Zoom) for everything else
		- Copy quality not implemented on receive
		- no line count 
		- received data is backwards
		- +fbor can be used to correct received data

	4. ZyXEL correctly handled switching from standard to/from fine
	   for sending, but not for receiving (4.10 roms)

>using its class II interface?  (I really should say, pseudo class II,
>since class II is not a standard yet.)

Well I liked Class 2 Classic. Other commentators prefer Ersatz Class 2.
The new spec has changed the number returned by +fclass from "2" to "2.0"
so we could get by just be referring to Class 2 and Class 2.X. 

There are several common implementation "standards". First would be the
Everex version which follows the original specifications fairly closely
(the chairman of the TR29.2 committe that designed the specification is
the head of engineering at Cygnet who builds the Everex modem). 

Another company did an implementation that was sold to Rockwell and Sierra. 
It had some strange differences that are being carried along simply because 
it's easier to leave them in than fix. Other companies seem to be cloning 
the Rockwell interface because they have sold the most. 

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From: huynh@davidsys.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Subject: ATM documents
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:01:12 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

Can anyone send me (email) a copy of the LATM or
NCLATM document about ATMs? or where I can acquired
(purchase) one.
From: grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Subject: Re: where collision happen in banyans
Date: 11 Aug 92 12:24:15 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

>    
>    I seem to recall being told once, long ago, that there had been some
>theoretical work done on where collisions tended to occur in banyan
>networks if the inputs were not sorted.  The work was done as part of
>figuring out where putting extra paths in a banyan (or butterfly, or
>whatever you wish to call it) graph would improve throughput.
>I did find the paper by Pfister and Norton in IEEE Trans. on Computers
>(October 1985) but that's more of a throughput analysis.


Are you referring to work on replicated and dlated interconnection networks
for ATM switches? If so Prof. Mouftah at Queen's has current research
results in this area.  

In the Oct 91 JSAC, Tobagi reported on his Tandem Banyan which I
take to be a way of producing a replicated Banyan. In the
same issue, there is an article "A On-Chip Scalable ..."
which discusses speeding up the internal interconnetion network
which is a way of producing a dilated network.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: walvdrk@research.ptt.nl (Kees van der Wal +31 70 332 6295)
Subject: Re: timing info for AAL type 1 and 2
Followup-To: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:11:27 GMT

> Can anyone explain the followings to me about the AAL type 1 and type 2:
> 
> 1. How does the AAL layer transfer timing information?  Does it use a
> "timing cell"?
> How does AAL-1 distinguish the timing cells from the data cells (type 1 
> doesn't have an "IT" field in the AAL header)?
> 
> 2. How does the source generate these timing cells?  How does the receiver
> use them?

Here's a followup with a more specific pointer than my previous ...

Timing recovery of AAL type 1 is described in CCITT rec. I.363 (B-ISDN ATM 
Adaptation Layer Specification) section 2.5.2.2, the ` Synchronous Residual 
Time Stamp (SRTS) method'.

For AAL type 2, section 3 says that `transfer of timing information between 
source and destination' ... `may' be included. As yet it's not clear to me 
whether e.g. variable video coding (a candidate for using AAL2) needs such 
timing recovery.


Regards, <kees>

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: perryman@bmers181.bnr.ca (Ian Perryman)
Subject: Flame ! Re: DS-3 ATM Interface
Organization: bnr
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 15:55:13 GMT

In article <9208142156.AA00410@eric.mpr.ca>, little <little@mprgate.mpr.ca> writes:
|>                        Subject:                               Time:2:45 PM
|>   OFFICE MEMO          DS-3 ATM Interface                     Date:8/14/92
|> Some time ago, I mentioned in a release, a product called the PM7321 PLPP 
|> Physical Layer Protocol Processor and DS-3 Transceiver chip.
|> 

Blatant advertisement deleted.
|> 
|> Anyone wanting more information on this part should send me an email at:
|> little.mprgate.mpr.ca
|> 
|> Cheers,
|> Vern Little.
|> 
|> 

Flame time !

The internet must not be used as a place to advertise products and 
services, otherwise we would be inundated with useless drivel.
 
Thank you for your co-operation.

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