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Subject: Re: Help me find "foxcore" groups...
From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:06:52 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <26253@castle.ed.ac.uk>, eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt) writes:
> In article <92268.164236JXH107@psuvm.psu.edu> JXH107@psuvm.psu.edu (Jeff Hochberg) writes:
>>Hey folks...
>>
>>Lately I've become interested in a style of alterna-grunge which some people
>>have been labeling "foxcore," for lack of a better name.  Some bands
>>I've been checking out include: Babes in Toyland, L7, Hole, Daisy Chainsaw,
>>Nymphs, Sexpod, and Cycle Sluts from Hell. You get the idea... lotsa noise,
>>feedback, moshy grooves, and hellish female vox.
> 
> If some people (Thurston Moore?) have been labelling this stuff 
> "foxcore", then some people really ought to know better. The only
> things that the above groups have in common is that they're guitar
> bands fronted by women.  Even if you insist on trying to categorise 
> music, this is a particularly arbitrary way to go about it.
> 
> Lindsay.

I agree... although I like Babes in Toyland and Bikini Kill a lot, I like
each for different reasons, and I think L7 is the dullest shite I ever heard.
Woman musicians are the only connecting factors here.

Kreig
ravinglunatick
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From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: DM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:32:16 GMT

We (in the United States) should have the new album in January.


						    Ramona
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:09:58 EDT
From: Maureen Passmore <MLP9@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM BROKE UP!!
Distribution: na
 <sem8kX600YV7A3lcgS@andrew.cmu.edu> <nudnik.717808433@camelot>

Ha, ha,ha, that's funny-RIGHT????!!!!!!???
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From: randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd)
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth (huh?)
Reply-To: randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd)
Organization: RDR, Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 05:37:39 GMT

Marten Sahlen writes
> Or the very earliest albums like 'Kill Your Idols' and 'Confusion 
> Is Sex' which are still the best SY ever did, IMHO.

Really?  "Confusion Is Sex" is interesting ("Stick your fingers / In  
your mouth / Squeeze your tongue / And wrench it out / From it's ugly  
fucking cancer root", you gotta love it).  But certainly they've  
produced some deeper and more substantive stuff than that, both  
musically and lyrically.  As I said in my other post (3 minutes ago),  
"Bad Moon Rising" is a great album, done after they've gotten past  
the experimental stage.



Randy
randy@rdr.com
"I'm living in pieces and I want to live in peace."
				-SY
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 19:08:08 CDT
From: <U46837@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Clubs in SF, need help quick...

Please E-mail me with info on alternative, modern, and gothic clubs in the
San Francisco area.  Any help with local weeky newspapers, used record
shops, coffee houses, and other places to see would be greatly appreciated.

Also, is Body Manipulations a good place to get a tatoo???  I need a tatoo to
be done that's geometric and detailed.

Thanks in advance...
--
Gene J
<u46837@uicvm.cc.uic.edu>
Chicago.
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From: Nathan.Bowen <Nathan.Bowen@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: NIN does Adam Ant
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:31:52 GMT

In <1686B7E77.KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu> KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu writes:

>For those of you who have not read all the previous postings, the new
>Nine Inch Nails E.P. includes a bonus disc with two additional "new"
>tracks. The titles are not listed on the jacket, however, only
>copyrights crediting A.Ant and T.Reznor & Pigface for writing them. Most
>people will recognize track two as a new version of Suck (Different from
>the NIN bootleg, but pretty much the same arangement). After listening
>to the A.Ant track, I went through the record library at the radio
>station I work at and found the original by Adam and the Ants titled
>"Physical (You're So)". After listening to that track, I would say
>Trent's update of the song isnt much different, perhaps a bit harder.
>Anyway, does anybody know if this bonus disc is going to be included
>with all pressings of this EP or is it just included in the first run?

I was in the midst of writing a response to this article when my answer
changed.  I picked up Broken not 45 minutes ago, and I was rather disappointed
in my copy's lack of a 3 inch CD.  But after the sixth track finished, my CD
played through a set of 1 inch tracks until the 98th, which is Physical, and
then 99, which is Suck.  Really a cute way of going about it, I'd say.  I
don't know if this means that I don't have a first run copy, but I'd say
that's a possibility.  One way or another, not all the CDs come with the extra
CD, but apparently you will get the extra songs regardless.
-- 
Nathan.Bowen@mixcom.com
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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: Daisy Chainsaw
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.144257.126@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> danny@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Danny Graham) writes:
>From: danny@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Danny Graham)
>Subject: Re: Daisy Chainsaw
>Date: 29 Sep 92 14:42:57 GMT
>gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>
>>In article <Bv9Mpo.K6D@world.std.com> fuzzbox@world.std.com (Every Man and Woman is a Star) writes:
>>>From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Every Man and Woman is a Star)
>>>Subject: Re: Daisy Chainsaw
>>>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:56:11 GMT
>>>gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>>>
>>>>>Does anybody know when Daisy Chainsaw's album "Lovesick Pleasure" is coming
>>>>>out?  I believe it's sometime in October, but I want to know exactly when. 
>>>>>Some radio stations already have it, I think.
>>>
>>>>A couple of things:
>>>>			Its: Love Sick Pleasure.
>>>>			It's not an album....It's a 3 track 12" single.
>>>>			It came out in -91.
>>>
>'erm well, the first single was "Love your Money" which was completely
>tops (especially the bass sound).
>The "eleventeen" album which they have just released got a resounding fart
>from N.M.E. , draw your own conclusions from that.
>I saw them last year, and it has to be said their live experiance is not
>based on the quality of their playing, more on the girls schizophrenic
>tendencies and high pitched giggly voice - which after a while can get
>really quite annoying !
>Much better that night were "Sheep On Drugs" - really quite stunning, and
>for shear ridiculous appeal, a little known band called "Elephant Witch"
>who were wonderfull. One of the girls covered herself in half a dozen eggs,
>a can of tomatoes, 4 pints of milk and a bag of flour - now if Daisy
>Chainsaw are trying to prove that they're not entirely of a sound state of
>mind - I would suggest that this might be a slightly more convincing (and
>indeed amusing) way of doing it. Just a thought.
>
>Danny

Are you saying that my "Love Sick Pleasure" 3 track 12" single doesn't 
exist?????


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From: keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Copper Blue
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:33:27 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <BvnIAs.AM@acsu.buffalo.edu> v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff) writes:
>Though unneccessary, I'll add more.  It really kicks.  This is the best driving
>tape I've gotten in a while.  Woof.
>
>Anyone seen them live yet?  They're playing Toronto with the Boo Radleys, and
>I'm thinking of taking the drive.

Yes, I saw them last night at the Venue in Edinburgh (Capacity 150).
They were very good, and very loud (my ears are still ringing).

Don't go expecting a set of Husker Du songs though, as they didn't
play any, neither did they play any Bob Mould solo stuff.

It's probably be worth the drive.

KDA
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From: Lawrence.A.Kim@dartmouth.edu (Lawrence A. Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: the stairs
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:18:04 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

after hearing much about this group, i finally went out and bought the
cd today. it's recorded in mono, and sounds very early-sixties-ish. if
the la's are the new old beatles, then the stairs are certainly the new
old stones- edgar summertyme's vocals are very mick jagger-ish, while
the guitar work is very poppy and reminiscent of the early british
invasion bands (besides the stones and beatles, the kinks and
yardbirds). great sound!

however, very little information is given in the sleeve notes. anyone
know anything about this band? i read that it was recorded in
liverpool, so i am (probably naively) assuming that they are
liverpudlians.

-lawrence
(lawrence.a.kim@dartmouth.edu)
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Dream Academy : 1st ALBUM
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 22:40:26 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) writes:

> Is this CD still available in the UK?  I looked for it when I was over
> in May/June and couldn't find it :(  I have a US copy (well manufactured
> in Germany with US printed inserts) but would like the full import.   

"Full import?"  Is the US version missing tracks?

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Black Room? (KLF)
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:23:15 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University, UK

In article <1992Sep27.225316.4957@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
                Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:

>After The White Room, KLF started another album called, "The Black
>Room," but broke up before they finished. Are there any singles or
>concert bootlegs off this almost album?

   This LP was done in collaboration with the UK anarcho-thrash
band Extreme Noise Terror.  One result of this collaboration was
the novelty version of "3 a.m. Eternal," which was originally
intended for a Christmas pop programme, but when the BBC decided
it was not suitable for transmission, a limited number became
available through mail order.  This song was performed live at
the British Music Industry Awards (lots of men in suits, women 
in furs etc), complete with machine gun blanks being fired into 
the crowd, and the announcement of the KLF's retirement.  Actually, 
the original plan was to disembowel a dead sheep on air and throw 
buckets of blood into the crowd - but ENT vetoed the plan.
   I can't remember what was said at the time about the probability
of the LP being released, but if that single was anything to go by,
it would probably sound closer to Motorhead than either ENT or the 
KLF.

Lindsay.
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From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: Swirlies/Slumberland records?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:07:35 GMT

In article <92274.155037MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> Mike Jung <MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>The local record stores can't find any Slumberland Records material.  I'm
>especially interested in getting Swirlies material.  Can I order directly
>from Slumberland, and if so, would somebody please provide me with the
>label's address or point me to a mail-order service I order from?  Thanks in
>advance...

Slumberland runs mail-order from PO Box 14731, Berkeley, CA 94701-4731.
The Swirlies' first 7" (DRYL 015) is now back in print. The Swirles'
second 7" _Error_ (NARC 001) is available from Pop Narcotic Records, 1085
Commonwelth Ave. #339, Boston, MA 02215. Best of luck.

Mark Cornick <stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
For indie-list info, mail cc647@cleveland.freenet.edu!

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From: bjr@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Bernie Rauscher)
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth in Concert
Organization: University of Chicago, Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:39:19 GMT

wheeler8161@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> they only played for a little over an hour (including the
> encore) and played almost entirely new stuff.
> [Deleted stuff]
> i thought
> that a group that has maintained integrity for that long would show a
> little of it in concert.  what they did play though was performed very well.

I suspect that they did show integrity. For one hour, they "performed very
well". In all likelyhood, that was precisely the contract they signed. If
you're lucky, they may play for over an hour. If very lucky, much more than
an hour. You're on a weak foundation if you're complaining about the lack
of freebies.

peters@convex.com writes:
> also the advance ticket price
> was $20 and at the door it was only $16. thurston made some comments about
> how outrageous the tariff was, reminded me of consolidated.

Especially so if you've got the financial wherewithall to be plunking down
$16-$20 (+beer, T-shirts, whatever) for rock concerts. The typical middle
class "professional" demands considerably more than $20 for an hour of
his/her time. And middle class "professional" is exactly what most folk on this
net are or are studying to become.

The Sonic Youth are no longer "youth" nor particularly "underground". Their
talent is now widely recognized, and you've got to pay to see it. If you've got
a gripe with Capitolism, then you've got a leg to stand on. However, if you're
a working "professional" or parentally endowed college student, your case is
weak.

If you want to see similar talent for a few bucks for many hours, you've got
to mine the clubs ... which means winnowing through a lot of chaffe to find
the wheat. What's more, you've got to find the wheat quickly, otherwise
they may get "discovered", quit their day jobs, and charge more for their
concerts.
From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Jesus Lizard
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:55:43 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

maartenm@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Maarten Muijen) writes:

>The Jesus Lizard (and Bleach) are playing friday 16 in Eindhoven, the
>Netherlands. Should I go see them?

DEFINATELY!  JESUS LIZARD is one of the best live bands I've ever seen.
I've seen them 3 times here in Omaha...each time was great.
 
You'd be doing yourself a dis-service by not seeing them.
 
Do it and give us a review.                   

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From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Okay, Smiths Picture offer
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 10:40:45 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

I have done some checking around local photo shops and found that the 
most reasonable price for a good reproduction of my picture is about 
$8.00.  That's what I will be paying.  There are other cheaper I will 
admit but the reproduction quality is shitty.  Like I have said before, 
this picture is rare.  My friend Sheila went to one of the last Smiths 
shows and all four band members posed for her.  It's a close up of all 
four of them.  I have the negative so you won't find this picture 
available anywhere else.  Anyhow, I feel that $15.00 (which includes all 
shipping costs) is a reasonable price for this picture.  It is an 8" x 
10" of all four of the Smiths.  Upon receipt of funds I will send your 
picture within one to two days afterward.

Send $15.00 money order (out of state checks are a bitch to deposit)
            or cash, always good. :)
Gary Danko
c/o New Empire Electronics
293 East Orange Avenue #308
Chula Vista, Ca 91911

A must have for true Smiths fans.

HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   03-Oct-92 at 10:50a

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From: jeho@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (john.e.holmgren)
Subject: J. Mascis, Gas Food Lodging
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:17:51 GMT



Anybody out there had a chance to see Gas, Food, Lodging?
It's the flick that J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr did the soundtrack for,
and I heard that he also appears in the movie. Its playing about
a half an hour away from me and I was wondering if its worth making
the trek and paying six bucks to see.

Thanks for any help,
Eric
From: kirihara@lclark.edu (Daryl Kirihara)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel's new album
Date: 3 Oct 92 09:25:50 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

Could someone please e-mail or post information about whether or not the Peter
Gabriel song included in the movie, Until The End Of The World is on his new 
album and if not, is it available on CD or tape in the U.S.? I am sorry if this
is a FAQ but I recently regained access to the net. I am asking this for a
friend so if this is a "dumb" question, no flames please. Thanks in advance.

Daryl
kirihara@lclark.edu
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From: saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe)
Subject: Re: NIN
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:47:08 GMT

In article <92275.203636JD2859A@auvm.american.edu> Jeff Dubin <JD2859A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>What? No discussion of the new NIN???!!!
>
>Well, I'll start:
>I think Suck and Last are the two best NIN songs not only from this album, but
>ever from Trent.  I've been looking for Suck forever.  Does the tape have
>the extra two songs that came on the CD3?  And what is the name of that 1st
>song?
>Kinda dissapointed that :
>a) came in longbox, but still was in strange single box
>b) 20mins for CD5, 10mins for CD3... why not combine?
>c) how long have we been waiting?  only 30 mins total?
>
>but otherwise a masterpeice as expected.  Any comments?
>---
>
>=========================================================================
>Jeff Dubin                          "I hate people... people make me
>jdubin@world.std.com                    pro-nuclear"
>jd2859a@american.edu                          -M Smith
>"Someone shot nostalgia in the back... Someone shot our innocence..."-Bauhaus

Well it certainly was much different than PHM but overall I liked it very
much.  I do believ the reason it was so short is because Trent is planning
on a full length release sometime after the first of the year (But don't
quote me on that, I have been known to be wrong =-( ) So we will all look
forward to the next release, and hopefully another tour!


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Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 00:32:53 EDT
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PSYCHEFUNKAPUS??

Well, the biggest difference between _Skin_ and the first album
was that they axed the singer and the rest of the band took
over the singing duties.  I prefer the first album - it grooved
more and the singer has personality.  Frankly, _Skin_ lacked the
things that made the first album interesting.
-------

                                            Murph

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                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

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you will not understand my words.
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From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Subject: Orb tours???
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:29:09 GMT



I've been hearing some rumors that the Orb is on tour???

Are these true, and if so, are they coming to Canada (came???)

Toodlepi!
Marc 'em.
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From: carl@bain3.bain.oz.au (Carl Sandland)
Subject: Re: Acoustical Guitar?
Organization: Bain & Company, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:13:43 GMT

brent milne (milne@csr.lbl.gov) wrote:
> I listend to both Robyn Hitchcock's _Eye_ and Midnight Oil's
> _10,9,8,...,1_ this
> weekend and thoroughly enjoyed the acoustical guitar on them.
> 
> Does anyone have have some recommendations of interesting bands/artists with an
> acoustical guitar emphasis?
> 

	Well I think that all of Suzanne Vega's albums are FANTASTIC, she just
sort of plucks and strums, and that voice can carry a melody so subtle you'd
swear there was none, check out 'Open hand' CD and her 2'nd one (Solitude??)
	Also I think the sundays are pretty great too.
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo S{{skilahti)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Fall fans - attention!
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:43:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

If you are a fan of The Fall, you will surely be delighted
to find out that you can now join the Fall mailing list!

Mail me for additional information.

Kimmo


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 women in their underwear."                     trkisa@uta.fi
 - Mark E. Smith

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Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 17:52:17 -0400 
From: Chris Ferrall <ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: trip shakespeare


The first Trip Shakespeare album is "Apple Head Man," on Gork(?) Records.
I think it is still in print.  It contains the original version of
Pearle, and some other good songs.  A friend of mine still in
Minneapolis says they are about to put out a new album.

Lulu comes closest to capturing their live performances which,
until two years ago when I saw them last, were always great.
Matt Wilson improvises lyrics on certain songs (such as Toolmaster) - 
often with ridiculous but always entertaining affect.


--Chris Ferrall
  ferrall@andrew.cmu.edu