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From: etheredg@iugate.ucs.indiana.edu (Wil Etheredge)
Subject: Re: More "ALIENS" questions
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:16:05 GMT

Yes, you do have the right movie. And you are also correct that it didn't
come out in the Video version.  I guess some editor needed it to fit to
tape?

I am not sure as to why it didn't appear on the tape...but it was in
the movie.


- Wil


In article <Bw2wDA.tn@solbourne.com>, lark@solbourne.com (Daniel Larkin)
wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>         Was there a scene in this movie where the marines set
> up a security system with "sentries"; two or maybe three "high tech
> machine guns" like the ones Drake and Vasquez carried, positioned
> down a certain hallway in case the aliens tried to attack them from
> this corridor? I thought I remember seeing this scene in the original
> movie at the theater but have never seen it on video. Do I have the
> right flick?
> 
> 
> P.S.- I apologize if this has already been covered.
> 
>            Thanks, Dan L.

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From: z_falkrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Question about Aliens
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:38:45 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <j633206@pro-woolf.cts.com>, bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Beverly Woolf) writes:
>         I watched _Aliens_ again last night with my daughters and a couple
> of questions popped into my mind.
>         There are two scenes which I vaguely remember, but haven't seen in
> the copy of the movie that we have.  These two scenes are:
>         1) When Ripley is in the hospital at the beginning of the movie, I
> seem to remember mention of her daughter.

	There was.  I have seen a laserdisc version with this bit of extra
scenes as well as several others.  This particular scene was also in the TV
release for _Aliens_.

>         2) When Ripley is going after Newt in the lair, I seem to remember
> her finding Burke strung up.  He asks her to kill him (or something) and
> she gives him a hand grenade.

	I THINK this was on the laserdisc version I saw.  Cannot be too sure as
it was a long time ago.

>         Are these just figments of my imagination or were they originally
> shown in the movie and then cut out later?  Thanks for any answers.
> Please send any answers via email.
> 
> ...Bev
> 
Rob Falk   a.k.a. Tora             Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock.
z_falkrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu            -from a collection of student paper errors

Disclaimer:  Whatever I say is     Marriage is an institution, you have to be
nothing more than the demented       crazy to get into one.
ravings of a lunatic mind.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@morayeel.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Richard Lynch
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:38:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.185203.21251@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>I watched Trancers II the other day - blech ! A needlessly convoluted
>sequel to a really classic cult movie. The villain, Edwardo, is played
>by Richard Lynch, who has made an excellent villain in many movies.
>I remember seeing him as vampire in a modern day setting 10 years ago.
>Does anyone remember the name of the movie ?

I'd like to know too. Lynch is my vote for great cult actor. 
Watch for him in "God Told Me To" as Barnard, and all the other junk
he has cranked out for decades! Rarely is there so enjoyable a sleazeball!

					--Judex--
From: jes2x@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (John Sommerville)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: A new topic:  bad kung-fu films
Keywords: Ninja, inflatable, Artemis, afterburn, kumquat, indifference
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:04:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <Bw8323.Jqt@willamette.edu> pdudey@willamette.edu (Peter Dudey) writes:
>Okay.  I want emphasis on bad titles, REALLY outrageous plotlines, and good
>scenes here, because most of these movies are more or less identical.
>
>I'd like to open the discussion with "The Invincible Superguy".  The scene I
>have in mind is a flashback, where the Superguy throws some coins at the
>(anti?) hero.  They get lodged in his chest, and the Superguy says something
>like "Only I can remove those coins," and runs off.
>
>There was another character in this movie whose name was translated as
>"Dynamite-Man".  You can guess his choice of weapons.  Character development
>of Nintentdoan preportions.

This movie sounds great!  Where can I find it?

>-- 
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>"For God's sake, strap yourselves down!"  -Hans Zarkov in "Flash Gordon"
>
>"Get your toothbrush and whatever."  -ibid


--
John Sommerville (jes2x@Virginia.Edu)     "I'll see you in the trees..."
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: GODZILLA VS KING KONG ????
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:29:07 GMT

it was Godzilla vsersus MechaGodzilla .. i believe ... 
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
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 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: stuff
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:46:45 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct4.185941.28081@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>	1. The Highlander TV series premiered Saturday night, right before
>Star Trek. It really didn't look very good, although to be sure, I wasn't
>watching too carefully. I liked the first Highlander movie and didn't see
>the second. All I can say is that, if Christopher Lambert calls that a
>Scottish accent, he is sadly mistaken. A native Scotsman would have a much
>thicker accent. Then again, if he's lived for so long and, presumably,
>been a part of other cultures, it'd make sense that the accent has been
>cannibalized a bit.

See the original Highlander movie (the REAL Highlander).  You get
flashbacks between 1985 and 1536/1541.  In the present, Lambert (Connor)
uses the same accent he used in the show.  In the past, he has
a more Scottish accent.

Of course, none of this changes the fact that the show was an 
absolute piece of tripe (to put it mildly), and a jarring insult
to the excellent Highlander movie.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.)
Subject: Shocking cult films 
Followup-To: Re: Most SHOCKING film of my childhood 
Summary: Repuslive serial killers 
Keywords: beat is for george romero beat is for dario argento 
Organization: The Special Corps 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:46:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.164258.11033@coli.uni-sb.de> mafu@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Markus Fuenfrocken) writes:

  [ true confessions / Deranged Cinema stuff deleted ]

>So much for this time. Whats your fafourite SHOCKING CULT-MOVIE ??
>Please follow-up !!!

  Only too happy to oblige, Mr. Fuenfrocken.
  I don't know about "favorite" shocking cult-movie, but there are a couple 
that come to mind.
  Roman Polanski's _Repulsion_ scared the living daylights out of me a few 
years ago. The really shocking part for me, however, was that the apartment
in which Ms. Deneuve goes whacko is numbered #15, which is the same number as
_my_ flat (The Castle Anthrax). True to form, I was freaked for DAYS. 
  There's a scene where Ms. Deneuve is happily humming away while ironing and
the camera moves down to reveal that the iron is unplugged. There have been a 
few mornings in which I've awakened, started ironing some article of clothing
for want of something unwrinkled, and I'll notice that I forgot to plug in
the iron. On such occasions, I often utter some witty and sophisticated remark,
like, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!" 
  The other one is _Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer_. A couple of artists
that I know (Jeff Mattson of the band Crash Worship, and the aspiring painter
Dan O'Brien) urged me to see it. When I got there, arriving at my constant
seat at the local repertory theatre (second row from the front, center column,
third seat from left), I found that I, for once, was not the most forward-
seated person. Moreover, there were assorted remarks of dissatisfaction with 
the trailers, and enthusiastic boorish applause when _Henry_ came on -- NOT
your usual art-house audience. 
  Going home after the film was over, knowing that Henry had such fervent 
admirers, I deeply regretted being able to only look over one shoulder at a
time. Besides, that was no Freddy Krueger teenybop crapola, that was a REAL
horror film!
  Some time later, I successfully wheedled a friend of mine (The Outsider from
the Silent Planet) into seeing it on tape. At the end of the tape, there was
a commercial for _Henry_ T-shirts and posters. Eeeeeeurggggh.
  If we wish to discuss outrageous-shocking or disgusting-shocking instead of
scary-shocking, my fave would have to be _Pink Flamingoes_. One of the most
technically inept, hilarious, and disgusting films this writer has yet seen.
I have vivid memories of laughing hysterically at the same time that my gut
was doing internal somersaults.
  Such films defy easy evaluation. It was a truly unique cinematic experience,
... but to whom do I recommend it?

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						"NOT!" -- Anthrax, not Wayne &
						Garth (it was their catchphrase
						first!)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: lark@solbourne.com (Daniel Larkin)
Subject: More "ALIENS" questions
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:15:09 GMT

Hello,

        Was there a scene in this movie where the marines set
up a security system with "sentries"; two or maybe three "high tech
machine guns" like the ones Drake and Vasquez carried, positioned
down a certain hallway in case the aliens tried to attack them from
this corridor? I thought I remember seeing this scene in the original
movie at the theater but have never seen it on video. Do I have the
right flick?


P.S.- I apologize if this has already been covered.

           Thanks, Dan L.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Akira experience
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:24:48 GMT

In article <mumble> donnell@sponge.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>In article <grumble> rkim@OPUS.CALSTATELA.EDU ("Richard H.S. Kim") writes:

>>With so many people claiming the virtues of watching Akira, I decided to
>>rent it out at my local Warehouse (Music and Video).

>>However, like soooo many j-anima films before it, shaky story-line and "acting"
>>leaves much to be desired.  I know, I know, this is animation, but this is
>>getting on my nerves.  You see, people have complained why "anime" films 
>>aren't getting more popularity here, and the reason is flat characters and
>>storylines.  Hardly memorable.

>I didn't find the "acting" as flat as you did either. I thought it was a 
>pretty good step forward towards the ultimate Anime film that we have
>all been craving. 

Assuming you rented the English language version of Akira, some of the
problems with acting can be blamed on the translation work and the
work of the American dubbers.  While a lot harder to understand
(especially if you don't know any Japanese 8-), the original Japanese
language version has better voice acting in it.

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /| \|
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: pejulaju@sandman.cs.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Subject: Re: alt.bladerunner
Reply-To: pejulaju@niksula.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:37:08 GMT

In article <6004@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:

>Exactly.  What happened to the Alien 3 thread that so many people
>whined about in September?  Well, it's died, just as was predicted
>then to those who were shouting for a specific alien3 newsgroup.

Yeah, but ALIEN 3 was the best big budget film from Hollywood in years!
From: sjm1@eng.cam.ac.uk (Stephen Mounsey)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: viddy some more of ORANGE
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:45:15 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman) writes:

>In <1992Oct6.225810.29077@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jmp2020@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>>I knew this actor Malcolm McDowell and his films...they are:
>>  - IF
>>  - O LUCKY MAN!
>>  - BRITIANNA HOSPITAL
>>  - A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
>>  - BLUE THUNDER
>>  - MOON 44
>>  - CLASS OF 1999

>GULAG (HBO production, with David Keith)

CAT PEOPLE
ACES HIGH (with Peter Firth)

And I'd still like to know the name of that damn film where he played an
SS officer with swastika boxer shorts!!

                             -Stephen.
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From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: More "ALIENS" questions
Date: 14 Oct 1992 05:40:31 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu

In article <Bw2wDA.tn@solbourne.com> lark@solbourne.com (Daniel Larkin) writes:
>        Was there a scene in this movie where the marines set
>up a security system with "sentries"; two or maybe three "high tech
>machine guns" like the ones Drake and Vasquez carried, positioned
>down a certain hallway in case the aliens tried to attack them from
>this corridor? I thought I remember seeing this scene in the original
>movie at the theater but have never seen it on video. Do I have the
>right flick?

	This was NEVER in the theatrical release, but was included in the
special edition laserdisc and when it was shown on CBS.  I assume that you
saw this scene when it was shown on network tv.  

>P.S.- I apologize if this has already been covered.

No problem.


-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: THE MOST STUPID FILM
Reply-To: eprice@sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:00:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.170926.1@sara.cc.utu.fi> jalauros@sara.cc.utu.fi writes:
>THE most stupid Movie i've ever seen is..
>
> AMERICAN NINJA 
>
>IS IT A COMEDY OR WHAT?

I *like* "American Ninja" (well, sort of)!  (Shit, first someone slams
"Night of the Lepus", and now this...)

It's certainly better than "American Ninja 2".

Or "American Ninja 3".

Or "American Ninja 4".

Maybe "Avenging Force" is as good or even better though.  Except I was
upset that Steve James um, well, no spoilers...

Go get drunk or stoned (or both), read Joe Bob's review of it, *then*
watch the movie.  You gotta do these things *right*!

Ciao,

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sybase.com (not wildman@...)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time,
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:12:57 GMT

In article <0096211C.6B7614E0@abby.chem.ucla.edu> ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu writes:
>>
>>FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE. THE ABSOLUTE WORST MOVIE OF ALL TIMES IS
>>                        "The Giant Claw"
>>IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME CHECK IT OUT. YOU WILL THEN BE A BELIEVER.
>>
>
>>Chuck Machala-Semiconductor Process and Design Center-Texas Instruments/Dallas
>
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!
>
>The worst worst worst worst film has got to be
>                     "Barn of the Naked Dead"
>
>1) Makes Sophie's Choice look exciting, thrilling, and explosive.
>   (it's DULL)
>
>2) Makes 'Plan 9' look like a technically crafted masterpiece with unsurpassed
>   production value
>
>3) No naked.  No dead.  No movie.
>
>
>Don't see it.  Unless you doubt me.
>
>Ben
>hitz @cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu
>

Nothing with the incomparably sleazy Andrew Prine will ever make my all time
worst list. But hey, it could be worse, you could have stumbled onto
his magnum opus, so far, "Simon, King Of The Witches".

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time,
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:38:21 GMT

In article @rpi.edu, kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct14.154902.3345@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> >
> >but watching this dreck is like masturbating with a disc sander:
> >Mildly amusing, but ultimately quite painful.
> 
> Try using fine-grade sandpaper. That coarse stuff is awful.
> 
> ObWorstMovie: John Waters' MULTIPLE MANIACS was pretty darned bad, even though
>               it did have synchronized sound. 
> --
> Matt Garretson                    :-)                 temporarily kaminl@rpi.edu


man.. this guy just put jonny storm out of the human torch job .. that was the biggest flame i seen on this board yet ... 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: stuam@warwick.ac.uk (The O.)
Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Organization: Flip Chill Dark Winter Bastard Though Dry
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:54:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.003443.16408@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jmp2020@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>Hey, is anyone out there ever liked the movie, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE ?
>Well, it has been my cult film for a long time...almost ten years
>and still counting. I would love to talk about something related to
>this movie...so I'll be waiting. Also does anyone have any kind of
>memorabilia of this movie? Please reply as soon as you can...
>
>Your Humble Narrator, PAL.

Apart from the other stuff mentioned, I remember seeing in a library a
copy of a book of the film, with stills from virtually every scene in 
the film along with most of the dialogue. Never seen in in a shop, though,
but it's probably worth hunting out. A fitting accompaniment to the 
greatest film ever made.

BTW, is it true that all US copies of Anthony Burgess' original novel
don't contain the final chapter that Stanley Kubrick didn't film ?

On the subject of good Malcolm McDowell films, the remake of Cat People
is worth a look, but more due to Ms. Kinski than to Mr. McD....


O.
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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:33:13 GMT

In <1992Oct9.083147.59557@cc.usu.edu> slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer) writes:

>In article <hgjrb4d6@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, stuam@warwick.ac.uk (The O.) writes:
>> BTW, is it true that all US copies of Anthony Burgess' original novel
>> don't contain the final chapter that Stanley Kubrick didn't film ?

>Some years ago, I found a
>then-new paperback edition on a local bookshelf with the last chapter in
>it.  Cover notes claimed it was the first US edition to have it.

What's in the final chapter, anyway?

Daniel.
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From: dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner)
Subject: Re: GODZILLA VS KING KONG ????
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:46:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.133030.23167@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>there was also another one where king kong went against i robot of himself ...
>
>---
>Steve C. 
>
> ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
>                             - Just fools who think they are.
>---------------------------------------------------------------		
> I understand you need someone to do work.
> I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
>    -Vladimir Taltos
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   	
>
>
That film is KINGU KONGU NO GYAKUSHU, or KING KONG ESCAPES, and it 
was released in Japan in 1967.

It was based on the KING KONG animated cartoon that ran on Saturday
mornings.

By the way, did you know that Linda Miller, who played the blond nurse
named Susan in the film, is Jackie Gleason's daughter?



David Milner  Columbia University
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From: stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Bad Taste?
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:28:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <QerFilG00VpDM9DWla@andrew.cmu.edu> "Noah J. Adams" <na0r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>	I guess that this movie (Bad Taste) qualifies as a cult film.  It is
>one of my absolute favorites of all time.  Could anyone tell me of any
>other films by this director.  I believe his name was Peter Jackson, and
>if you watch the credits, he also played the part of Robert(My Favorite
>character other than maybe Derrick).  Any information or insights would
>be appreciated.

Peter Jackson made "Meet the Feebles" - a brilliant sick "Muppets" parody
(look for Lord Crumb's cameo).
He's also just completed "Brain Dead" which by all accounts is one of the
goriest films ever made and looks set to become a classic. Keep your eyes
open for it!

Orlando
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