HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A de-muffinning, and a coming out
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:54:32 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <17e32bINNs0p@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>In article <awlpbr9p@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>->Just wait till I've got you harnessed to my Iris, denims razored away
>->from your legs, body coated with sweat and beer... Oh? not *that* sort
>->of dungeon?  Aww...
>
>*whimper*

Aww, don't worry, Roy, it wasn't you I was [tempt|threaten]ing, only 
Matt.

>Iris? Err, as in the workstation? (slightly confused here)

Yup.  What nicer to have in a dungeon?  DAT-quality sound-effects, 24-bit
colour GIF slideshows...

>->Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
>-roy ... so innocent, it's not even funny.  Well, OK, it is.

Find me on Furry and we'll do something about that innocence if you like...

				Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: hot tubs
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:11:20 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe Salzgeber) wrote...
>>pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) said...
>>>This is getting all the more interesting.  Have to think about what
>>>to tie him to.  Furniture is kinda scarce around the house at this
>>>moment.  We could just tie him to the deck itself....
>>
>>Ah, but if we did that, the hot tub cat would probably come around and
>>make herself comfortable...
>
>It depends on how much he struggles.  Though he would probably
>stop struggling once she dug her claws in a bit.

   But Coe's promised to be nice!

   ...oh, you mean the cat...

   And what makes you think I'd be struggling? Although I suppose it *will*
be mid-winter by the time I'm there...Brrr...

Joe.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Linguists and Innocence
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



(Ciaran McHale) writes:
> >1. Some linguists cringe when they see the word "gender" misused. The
> >correct word is "sex". However, in this case I think it is valid to say
> >"fuck the linguists (especially the cute ones:-)!" and continue to

bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
> Do *I* count ....?      <innocent look>

Colin Dente (He of the strokable beard) writes:
>And you complain that Kay is ruining your reputation!  You brazen hussy, 
>you!

>How *do* you manage to look soooo innocent, and yet be so, errrr..., 
>well, un-innocent?

It's that cute look she gets when he fixes people with her <gorgeous> eyes 
and makes a sound like muttley that destroys the old "i'm a sweet innocent
liddle computational linguist" image... it normally preceeds one of her
oh-so lovely belly rubs...

Dancing in that skimpy lycra two-piece swigging vodka and orange juice
kinda blows it as well...

<sigh>

When am I next due in Edinburgh?

Clive

(kittenish-behaviour_R_us)
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| promo material - but for a HM band!<bleugh>  |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
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From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Dialects
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:16:48 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Sep2.115047.113680@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> sr09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
(SIMON NICHOLAS RUSSELL) writes:

>And, I found, completely unintelligible to non-northerners a lot of the time.
>When I went to the University of Kent (I think I was the "Token Northerner"
>there) it seemed that quite a few people had difficulty with my vowel sounds.

Learn to speak German. Yorkshire vowel sounds are just what you need for a
good German accent. (They're a real pain when trying to speak French
though!)

>So, Owen, which part of Yorkshire?

You've asked for it now :-). Waffle mode on:

I was born in Bawtry (near Doncaster) just on the Nottinghamshire side of
the border. Moved to the outskirts of Barnsley at the age of 4. My parents
quickly realised the place was a dump and we moved to a small village when I
was 7. Said village is about 11 miles from each of Huddersfield, Wakefield
and Barnsley (remember the Mike Harding sketch "The aliens 'ave landed in
'uddersfield"?). A year ago my parents moved again to a hamlet near
Huddersfield. Annoyingly you have to drive through Holmfirth a lot to get to
their new place, and hence you have to do battle with the "Last of the
Summer Wine" tourists. And then there's the low flying clouds as you head up
onto the Isle of Skye road over the tops (a local expression for the
Pennines). My ears always pop as I drive up that road too. If I had to drive
to work every day I'm not sure I could stand it - would having your ears pop
twice a day be bad for you?

Owen.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Mr Right
From: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 02:35:58 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) wrote...
>pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>>woodhous@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) wrote...
>>>   I was having an awfully long talk with Coe the other day,
>>
>>She tells me that you managed to keep her up until 5am.  And without
>>even touching her.  Not bad.
>
>   Heh heh...talking to her today, she said she hadn't yet mentioned to
>you that we'd had *another* even longer talk the day after...we were
>chatting away and she looked up and said "Oh, it's light outside...". 8->

Longer???? Jeez, I'm glad the computer has its own phone.

>   But ask her about the heater! Ha ha ha!
But the heaters not on.  Oh you must mean the hampster sized one.
The mind boggles.  I hope my guitars and books are out of range.

Ellen
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Hello everyone!
Date: 1 Sep 1992 04:40:12 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <la4siqINN8ff@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> fishnets@soulsteppin.Corp.Sun.COM (Spanky) writes:
-><big breath>
->
->Hello!

Hi! 

->After reading soc.bi for a coupla months now, I decided that it was time
->to take the plunge and de-muffin.  Everyone here seems like an extremely
->nice group of people, and I wanted to get in on all the hugs ;^) 

Hmm ... OK ...

*HUG* *snuggle* *cuddle*

And so on ... 

->time in my life.  Reading your posts and other peoples' outings 
->has also made it easier for me to understand that it is O.K. to feel 
->attracted to people of all sexes and preferences, and that I'm not
->a "horrible sexual deviant", unfit for human consumption ;^)

Hmm ... what's wrong with horrible sexual deviants? :)



-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roy S. Rapoport					rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu
Disclaimer:  "It wasn't me!! Must have been a fake posting or something!! I
              would NEVER say something like that!!"
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Norwich
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



Hiya all, I'm back after getting home about midnight from Norwich. I'm
utterly knackered (dead beat) and feeling the usual bump one gets when
leaving Bi space and coming back into something approaching normal.

The Edinbugh crowd will have had a hell of a drive back, the drive down
must have taken 8-hours and they left after I left (which was 7:00pm).
So they're gonna be out of it for a few days. Bill (Gamie) I hope you
secured the best seat on the Bus for Bethan?...

I'll try and put my thoughts together on this one, there was simply just
too much information to deal with in one go... all those workshops (heck,
some of them were so good we did our own discussion groups), I put more
names to netters and non netters faces... met the delightful Owen, who is
not at all what I expected... Tee Hee, cute freckles those Owen... Kay and
Justin, Olaf (doing his best to not look like Jesus with his "Too Cute
to be Gay..." Tee Shirt, Dave Berry's "Trilogy" of tee shirts for the
conference [wicked grin, well, it ended up as a bi-logy], Colin Dente
looking more like a puppy or a bear cub every day (he's so strokable when
he's tired), then there was the aforementioned Bill with his flugel-valve
sexual orientation chart (no, don't ask....), Angie [hugs] and so many
other people.... the parties in people's rooms (reminded me of University
days).

Wow! The coffee's brewed, I must get some in me and then start writing
this stuff up, but in the mean time, here are a few quotes: 


"Have you got the old valve under control?" - Bill Gamie
(this after about six hours sleep at breakfast)

"I tell you, I'm an Alsatian really!" - Colin Dente

"Oh dear me... people with furry animals" - Olaf
(upon seeing Kay putting his hand up the behind of a furry friend)

"I had that Mishima" - Colin Dente

"Ahhh, my life as a toy..." - Colin Dente 
(after Bethan and I grabbed him and started stroking his delectable beard).

"I can handle three balls at once" - A guy called Edmund
(not on the net, but nevertheless is thinking about it...)

I'm not desparate, but I *need* to get on a terminal *now* - Kay Dekker
(Kay doing a very good job of looking like a techno-junkie)

Tee Hee - more to come...

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|    "Just call me one of the nice people"     |cliveg@compulink.co.uk|
|                               Dave Berry     |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: This Weekend
From: matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:47:17 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <17v3e3INNflg@agate.berkeley.edu>, rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
> 
> Well, since *somebody* mentioned on friday that he wished everyone a great
> weekend, and since I did, I figured this is worth sharing ...
	Hmmm, wonder *who* this somebody was?

> was my 21st birthday (Anyone want to hug me? *hint*) ... ended up going with
	I just get to *hug* you?  Roy, I want to do so much *more*!

> Well, I'm rambling.
	Yes, well, we love you, so that's o.k.
	As for my weekend, it was my time to sleep and peruse other
more pressing aspects of my life.  An old friend of mine claims she
has just the person for me--that I'll love him.  I admit I was
skeptical, but when she described him, well....
	He sounds gorgeous--one of those types you'd love
to think is gay/bi, but alas, isn't.  But this one is bi and really
wants to meet me (but this is according to my friend April, so it
really is second-hand).  Yum--I can't wait!
					--Matt (wanting to say more,
					  but having no time to do so)
-- 
Matt Chatterly             | "How'd you get hand lotion all the way up there?"
(A blatant pseudonym...)   | "I told you I spilled it...."
Matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu |		--from _Young Lady Chatterly_
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Perverse Machines (no bi content)
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



[david parsons writes:]

>I will agree that my experience with the Atari ST has resulted in the
>death of three of them, but I've also killed Amigas, IBM PC's, PDP-11's,
>and crippled a Mac.         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Heh, yeah, I killed my first Amiga trying to hook up a non-standard
Monitor to the monitor port, it's little brains fried to death that night.

My second Amiga went when the power supply went >Sphut< >fizzle< after I
tried powering a serial device from the back of the machine.

My latest Amiga languished in the box which I've just got round to selling off-
 on CIX auction - I'm too afraid to take it out of the box now.... it's probab-
ly too afraid to come out as well.

And that doesn't include the Amiga 1000 (sans keyboard) I threw at a born-agai-
n-christian because he was annoying me (not because he was a
born-again christian, but because he was unctuous with it...)

> Who's actually a Unix bigot, but becomes attached to
> the ball and chain he's been lugging around.

Yeah, and the daft thing is EVERYONE thinks Unix will be the panacea for
all our ills. Me? I never trust a computer unless it smiles at me when I
switch it on.... even if it is a NeXT.

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| "When I grow up, I want to give up being a   |cliveg@compulink.co.uk|
| Journalist and learn how to write..."        |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: Bisexual Centrist Alliance
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:32:57 GMT

In <1992Aug26.175132.15062@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
bv426@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven A. Kendrick) writes:
>Yes, I think the g/kl movement needs to be educated about Bi
>issues; they have given us flak in the past.  However, I think
>that womens', minorities, PWA's, and impoverished peoples'
>issues are FAR more important than this agenda...and that
>working 'inside the system' is a big waste of time.. and the
>appeal to the 'center' doesn't please me.  The only thing you
>find in the center of the road is the adashed white line and road
>pizza.

Thank you so much for sharing. Do you have any more advice you want to
offer me on how _you_ think _I_ should be spending my activist
energies?


Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                             ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.       \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539 FAX: +353-1-772204 email: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: elf@halcyon.com (Omaha Sternberg)
Subject: Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! (was: something less interesting)
Originator: elf@halcyon.com
Reply-To: omaha@eisley.wa.com (Elf Sternberg)
Organization: Pendor, UnLtd.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:36:38 GMT

In article <BtJsCB.q9@agora.rain.com>
     rickc@agora.rain.com (Rick Coates) writes:

>elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg, actually Omaha) writes:
>
>>                                but whether I get on to post will depend on
>>how much time Elf gives me to get on(only one phone line :_)). HINT HINT
>>HINT.
>
>>                              Omaha
>
>   <sung to the opening of "Money for Nothing">
>   I want my O ma ha!
>
>Hey, Elf!!  You let her post!  Look at it this way - it's one more thing
>you can share.
>
>Let's hear it folks!  Do we want to have more posts from Omaha?
>
>
>Rick
>(wanting to know lots more about oceanography)
>
>rickc@agora.rain.com
>

      (Omaha is blushing heavily now...all this attention she's used to
seeing on the stage). Elf will let me post more often, but actually I will
soon have an account of my own to post from...I'm now a U of W student, so I
can get access from their machines. Don't know when, though. Sometime in the
next month.

                     Omaha

-- 
Elf Sternberg    __   |     I have looked into the abyss, and the abyss
elf@halcyon.com  \/   | has looked into me.  Neither liked what we saw.
elf@polari.online.com |                              - Brother Theodore
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Norwich
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:16:01 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <18249@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>If this sort of thing carries on much longer I'll start having an identity
>crisis :-). But it is very easy to get completely the wrong idea about net
>people. I was very surprised when I met Kay in person. Reading some of his
>posts now I'm back, I just can't imagine them being Kay. On the net he's far
>too intellectual; in real life he's a playful tart :-).

'sfunny, you know: that's just what I felt when I met Ciaran for the first
time at Pride this year.  Profound and almost terrifyingly serious on the
net; joyful and snuggly in the flesh.  O, what false mirrors flat media
are!

>>"Oh dear me... people with furry animals" - Olaf
>>(upon seeing Kay putting his hand up the behind of a furry friend)
>Hey, that wasn't just any furry animal you know. In the words of Kay:
>"Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Furry Dyke!". Furry Dyke developed
>Nipple Vampire tendencies at some time over the weekend too.

Developed?  Owen, my dear, she's had them for years, but only seems to
manifest them strongly when I'm animating her.

>>I'm not desparate, but I *need* to get on a terminal *now* - Kay Dekker
>>(Kay doing a very good job of looking like a techno-junkie)
>Was he wearing the thermochromic shorts when he said this? :-)

Nope.  The thermochromes didn't come on until the next day.  I was just
wearing my usual black jeans.

>Hmm. You're all going to accuse me of having the kind of mind that remembers
>all sorts of entirely inconsequential but amusing little facts. And you'll
>all be right. I'm a mine of useless information.

Ooohoh! that means you've been consorting with miners :)

		too intellectual for his thermochromes...
		Kay

-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Joke
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:04:50 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <98PwPB3w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> panda@micor.ocunix.on.ca
(Elizabeth Holden) writes:

>I found it interesting that you feared that friendships with men weren't 
>forming because you were maybe too feminine then list your interests which 
>are all male-oriented.  Try a few female-oriented interests!  As the only 
>male in a group of knitters or dancers or whatever you might find yourself 
>getting a lot of attention.

But I'm not interested in knitting or dancing! (OK, I'm ever so slightly
interested in dancing.) When University term is here the orchestras I'm
usually in are over half female. It still doesn't help. At break, there are
clumps of people (male, female and mixed) chatting, and I end up sat on my
own or wandering from clump to clump realising at each clump that I am an
intruder and that I am not wanted here. I just don't get it, I have at least
one common important interest with all these people since we are in the same
orchestra. There must be something wrong with me, but how do I work out what
it is?

>Whatever you try, good luck.  I cried a lot when I was in an unhappy 
>marriage with a possessive man.  Seldom before, seldom since; life isn't 
>meant for unhappiness.  Hang in there.  Learn to breathe deeply and 
>appreciate beauty....

Great. Is that all I get in life? Go round appreciating beauty? I want
more, and I think most people do. I'm probably mis-interpreting what
you said, since the rest of your message is nice and supportive.

Owen.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: hot tubs (was Re: The War Between Us (Long))
From: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 06:45:48 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe Salzgeber) wrote...
>pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) said...
>>iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) wrote...
>>>woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
>>>>pclary@carrot.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>>>>>woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) wrote...
>>>>>>   Ellen, shall we try for seven? [in the hot tub]
>>>>>Me thinks that could be arranged.  But we'll need your assistance.
>>>>  Oh ho! You'd have to tie me up to keep me out of the hot tub!...
>>>
>>>Goody!  Time for me to practice my knots.  And I didn`t learn them in
>>>the boy scouts.  Why because I am queer and a GIRL.
>>>
>>>Extra special torture for you.  Bondage and being forced to look at us
>>>having fun and frolics in the hot tub.
>>
>>This is getting all the more interesting.  Have to think about what
>>to tie him to.  Furniture is kinda scarce around the house at this
>>moment.  We could just tie him to the deck itself....
>
>Ah, but if we did that, the hot tub cat would probably come around and
>make herself comfortable...

It depends on how much he struggles.  Though he would probably
stop struggling once she dug her claws in a bit.

Ellen

Xref: sparky soc.bi:11806 soc.motss:38028
From: ljt3@CS1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (Lewis)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: Quayles meet Usenet (was Re: PLEASE VOTE!!!)
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:54:54 GMT
	<1992Aug28.194300.5882@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA

In article <1992Aug28.194300.5882@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.122722.112605@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> 
> sr09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (SIMON NICHOLAS RUSSELL) writes:
>>At Lehigh U., where Dan Quayle's firstborn, Tucker, arrived yesterday 
>>under the cover of darkness to join the ranks of our freshman class.

>Just wait till he gets a look at alt.fan.dan-quayle, not to mention
>all the sex, drugs, religion and politics newsgroups.  (And need I even
>mention soc.motss and soc.bi?)  We may very well hear rhetoric about
>netnews in the campaign this fall.

Most Lehigh students don't have access to _any_ alt groups.  They give
everyone on campus an account, but that machine is (OOOHHH!) censored.
--
  Lewis Tanzos - ljt3@cs1.cc.lehigh.edu - LJT3@PL122.eecs.lehigh.edu
   "Under heaven, all can see beauty only because there is ugliness.
       All can know good as good only because there is evil."
I AM HAVING PROBLEMS RECEIVING MAIL.  IF THE FIRST BOUNCES, TRY THE SECOND!
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Birthday Greetings
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 00:46:01 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

The official Muffin Taster is having a birthday. Happy Birthday.

May you recieve all you desire.

Ben Gibson(who didn't get tasted when he was a muffin <pout, pout>:)
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Lemmings!
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:09:54 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <184p66INN3ru@oak1.doc.ic.ac.uk>, mjb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Matthew Jude Brown) writes:
>>In article <JCR_MURD.92Sep2180257@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> jcr_murd@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk (Justin Murdock) writes:
>>Eeek, lemmings!
>>
>>I have never played for more than four hours at a time, so that must
>>prove that I was not addicted.
> 
> Ha! to that ...
> 
>>Has anybody ported it for X windows yet? ;-)
> 

No, but for a coupla hundred you can get DesqView-X which lets you 
(a) run X from your unix/vms/etc host on your PC screen
(b) run PC programs from your PC in a window on your X terminal
(c) supposedly do zillions of other neat things.

This is all hearsay, I haven't had my copy delivered yet. Be neat when I
can iconize my Sun into a muffin on my PC screen (and my VAX into a new
icon I'm working on which looks like a steaming cowpat; hey, and maybe
the IBM mainframe could iconize to, well...what...you suggest something)

///Peter, wasting time trying to get X to run pink triangular windows