HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope)
Subject: Re: MINISTRY
Reply-To: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:50:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.194427.16899@wam.umd.edu>, bianc@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (WierdnesS) writes:
>I heard that Ministry is touring with Helmet
>
>
>if anyone has any info, well . . . . 
>
>
>say something!

Well, MINISTRY, HELMET, and SEPULTURA are going to be in Houston on December
14th at the Sam Houston Coliseum.  This is going to be one helluva show!  Can't
wait for them to come to town.

-Scope

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: where to get Candlemass and other metal T-shirts
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:37:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.195435.17184@husc3.harvard.edu> mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Levin) writes:
>
>   Does anyone know a mail-order place that has metal T-shirts? I'm
>specifically looking for the cover of Candlemass' "Epicus Doomicus
>Metallicus", but am also interested in others. Any suggestions? Please
>reply to mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu.
>
	You could try Metal Disc.  They sell metal Ts, although I don't know
whether they have the one you want.  Their policy is pretty much "If we don't 
have it, let us know and we'll try to get it for you".  So you may have a 
chance of finding it.

Address: PO Box 4351 Suite 719
	 Hollywood, CA 90078

Thinking about dead kittens,
						Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
From: manowar@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Crimson Glory
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:32:14 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs

In article <1992Nov11.161704.8640@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>somebody re about crimson glory PLEEZE!
>
>DAle
>baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu

	I'm not completely sure what you are meaning but, I will feed
	you some info that I know about them.

	They have 3 CDs.

	1) Crimson Glory - Crimson Glory (Available outside of USA only)
	2) Crimson Glory - Transcendence
	3) Crimson Glory - Strange and Beautiful

	I *HIGHLY* recommend them to ANYONE. (even people that don't listen
	to metal).
	But I don't recommend, "Strange and Beautiful" to even my worst
	enemies. :-)

	On their first 2 CDs, they had a "gimmick" of wearing strange
	plastic/metallic masks on thier face. Very gooberistic looking.
	They changed record labels and moved over to Atlantic, thus
	dropping the stupid Masks. But also they dropped their good
	music ability. Most/all the songs on Strange and Beautiful
	are very commercial sounding, and none of them have the fantastic
	guitar riffs or the grim vocals of the previous CDs. :-(

	To hear them in their prime, check out songs like:

	Azrael, Angels of War, Heart of Steel, Masque of the Red Death,
	In Dark Places, and finally Where Dragons Rule...

	I almost feel like puking when I hear them do songs like
	Promise Land, The Chant, Deep Inside Your Heart, and Make You
	Love Me... YUK!!!

		I'm not sure if this is what you were hoping for
	in your request... but I'll be glad to give you any more info
	on them if you want/need more...

			Sinisterly Yours,

				Brent

	manowar@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Griffen
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:28:45 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <Bx71GK.GnB@acsu.buffalo.edu> v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (SPAM IS A STATE OF MIND) writes:
>
>  They put out an album on Combat called Hawk the Slayer,this was
>  back in '84 or so. 

	"Hawk The Slayer" was a song from that first album.  The title
of the album itself was "Flight Of The Griffin".  Pretty good, though
underproduced ... also, it wasn't on Combat, it was on Shrapnel --
one of the few non-guitar-hero albums that label ever put out.

> They then signed to Steamhammer and put out
>  atleast one more(Protector of the Realm)
>  Does anyone know what happened to this band?
>  I also know that one of their Guitarists quit and joined Heathen
>  for their first.

	Or something like that.  This is from memory ... the two Heathen
guitarists on their first were Doug Piercy and Lee Altus -- neither
of these two were in Griffin.  I think the ex-Griffin member you're
thinking of was bassist Thomas Sprayberry, who did play in Heathen
(though I don't remember if he was on that album).

>  The second Griffen album featured only a drummer,the singer
>  and a multitracked guitarist/bassist.
>  Alot of great music being generated by one man-he must have 
>  been in the studio forever!

	Actually, I think the singer pretty much ran the whole band, 
though playing both bass and guitars must be hausting!

	After that second album they disappeared, sadly ...

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: ManOwar Album
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:13:18 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

hey guys,
   (and gals, i guess i didn't look)

i should've been reading this newsgroup for the last three months! cool...
   anyhow what do people think of the new ManOwaR album? i haven't seen/heard
   it yet and was really wondering about their new guitarist, i saw him on 
   an MTV thang some time back (significantly far back) and then waited and
   waited for a new album...(it was after the release of Kings, i thought)
lemme know...

and somebody re that question about Crimson Glory please, i would really like
   to hear some new stuff from them...

DAle
baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu                    Caucasians
Shiva
Ivan the Trouncable Kuzmovich           the other white meat
The Long-Haired Conservative

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: dbi@cs.columbia.edu (Dmitry Babayev)
Subject: Re: ManOwar Album
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:45:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.161318.8560@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>hey guys,
>   (and gals, i guess i didn't look)
>
>i should've been reading this newsgroup for the last three months! cool...
>   anyhow what do people think of the new ManOwaR album? i haven't seen/heard
>   it yet and was really wondering about their new guitarist, i saw him on 
>   an MTV thang some time back (significantly far back) and then waited and
>   waited for a new album...(it was after the release of Kings, i thought)
>lemme know...
>
>and somebody re that question about Crimson Glory please, i would really like
>   to hear some new stuff from them...
>
>DAle
>baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu                    Caucasians
>Shiva
>Ivan the Trouncable Kuzmovich           the other white meat
>The Long-Haired Conservative
>

I picked it up a few weeks ago (had to roam entire Manhattan to get it).
It's called "The Triumph Of Steel". I love this albom. I should say though,
that they have changed a bit. Their music has gotten heavier and more
thrashy/speedy - which I like. They still, of course, have that old
great "fighting spirit" in their songs. If you liked their previous albums
-- the new one is a must to have. Highly recommend it.
Ross The Boss left the band but I guess it's not a big loss.. The New dude
is just as good (if not even better!) as Ross.

--MITCH--
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:4247 rec.music.misc:26954
From: CEF109@psuvm.psu.edu (Craig Fenton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Ministry's older stuff
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:18:43 GMT
 <1992Nov5.022426.29871@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Penn State University

That song is not "Stigmatized" - it is "STIGMATA" - but any way - "The Land of
Rape and Honey" is a fair album - but "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste"is
a great album (DANCE? -What the hell is this bozo talking about?) - Songs like
"Thieves" and "Breathe" and "So What" are pretty close to the new stuff - get t
hat one - ignore the other bozo.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Re: ManOwar Album
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:29:32 GMT

DAG THALBERG (dagt@dhhalden.no) wrote:
: 
: I think the new Manowar-album is their worst. I like the older 
: stuff, like Battle Hyms and Hail To England! Even Fighting The World was 
: better. I am very dissapointed! 
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I have to agree.  I didn't hear any songs on the new one that really caught
a rhythm like "Blood of the Kings" or "Violence and BloodShed" do.  Most of
the album sounded like them fucking around with their equipment.  The vocals
for some reason didn't fit in with the songs.  Every cool guitar riff was 
ruined by a hindering drum beat, and very often during the songs I got the
feeling that they were just seeing how fast they could play.

At least also when they read the story in _Kings_Of_Metal_ I could skip that
track.  I can't skip the drum solos and bass solos in the whole 20 minute
Achilles song.  

All things considered, I liked the cover a lot, and reading the song names I
thought they'd be pretty killer songs, and all I found was a bunch of 
screwing around.  I was sorely disappointed, though I was impressed by their
timing and stamina.
--
 ____
/ oo \  Mike McCool 
\ .. /  mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
 ||||   
 \__/   "Well, you're certainly in touch with your anger."  --Frank Drebbin
From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Seeking Info on Hell BAstard!!! (please help)
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:39:53 GMT
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: cmgeorg@c00557-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <Bx95s3.9Dp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
|>
|>Sweet and simple: Does anyone know anything about these guys?  I heard them
|>on a combat/earache sampler (Grind Crusher) and was MOST impressed...please
|>help if you can.
|>
|>							the man

I'll sell you their "Natural Order" tape for $4 postage paid.  Maybe you'll
find the info you want in the liner notes.  I got it a couple of years ago.


-chris

 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
 +      Chris Georgoulias                                                    +
 + North Carolina State University                                           +
 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
 +                                                                           +
 +                                                                           +
 + "Aah... who cares about school...who cares about life...who cares about   +
 +  me.  Not me, that's for sure!  Look!...(punches himself in the head)..   +
 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
 +                                       -Vyvian,  The Young Ones            +                                             
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,rec.music.misc
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Ministry's older stuff
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 22:49:18 GMT


CEF109@psuvm.psu.edu (Craig Fenton) writes:

>That song is not "Stigmatized" - it is "STIGMATA" - but any way - "The Land of
>Rape and Honey" is a fair album - but "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste"is
>a great album (DANCE? -What the hell is this bozo talking about?) - Songs like
>"Thieves" and "Breathe" and "So What" are pretty close to the new stuff - get t
>hat one - ignore the other bozo.

you're all bozos.  do a little bit of research next time, guys...

ministry albums, with my opinions in parens...

with sympathy - synth-pop (mostly bad)
the singles - mostly synth-pop, somewhat industrial (OK)
twitch - industrial dance (excellent)
land of rape and honey - half industrial dance, half thrash (excellent)
the mind is a terrible thing to taste - all thrash with a smidgen of
	industrial sound effects (somewhat good)
psalm 69 - all thrash (haven't heard it)

if you like the thrash stuff, check out the following ministry offshoots:
pailhead, 1000 homo djs, lard.

if you like the industrial stuff, check out these ministry offshoots:
revolting cocks, ptp, acid horse.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: AIC and Screaming Trees
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:47:10 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Anyone heard anything about Alice In Chains and Screaming Trees playing at
Bogart's?

			Yea or Nay

			  -Matt
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Megadeth / Suicidal show
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:47:51 GMT

Just came back from the show. Excellent, although the Suicidal set was slightly
boring (the singer's talking for about two minutes between songs all the way
through had something to do with it) but their lead guitarist is really cool.
(I wish I knew who they were but my LIGHTS CAMERA REVOLUTION album doesn't list
who plays what). 

Megadeth was incredible. I haven't moshed so hard before. Luckily they played
most of RIP so I knew most of the songs (OK so I didn't have enough money and
time to get their albums). Mustaine and Friedman are a great guitar duo. I 
liked the bass sound especially. When I saw SOD / Agnostic Front / Morbid Angel
I could barely hear the bass. Here it was most definitely present. Hope you
people waiting to see the show get to hear the sound quality which was very
excellent.

Actually set list wasn't too different from what was previously posted by a
the guy who saw it earlier this week.

philip



Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Chris Cornell & Soundgarden
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:27:17 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> Just wanted to mention that a few days ago I purchased a double cd of
> Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger for $12 at a used cd store.  The sticker
> said that it was the first promo release.  The first cd is the regular
> album.  The second one has five tracks:
> 	-cover of Black Sabbath's "Into The Void" with lyrics by a 19th
> 	 century Indian chief
> 	-cover of Devo's "Girl U Want"
> 	-cover of Rolling Stones' "Stray Cat Blues"
> 	-"She's a Politician" by Chris Cornell
> 	-"Slaves & Bulldozers" live
> 
> Just wondering if anyone else has seen or heard of this & if it's a
> collector's item.

I've seen it, but unfortunately I have Badmotorfinger already and could see
myself buying it againjust for another five songs....bad marketing idea:(

				-Matt
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: dagt@dhhalden.no (DAG THALBERG)
Subject: Re: ManOwar Album
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:40:47 GMT

In article <BxH63A.AB4@cs.columbia.edu> dbi@cs.columbia.edu (Dmitry Babayev) writes:
>From: dbi@cs.columbia.edu (Dmitry Babayev)
>Subject: Re: ManOwar Album
>Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:45:10 GMT
>In article <1992Nov9.161318.8560@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>hey guys,
>>   (and gals, i guess i didn't look)
>>
>>i should've been reading this newsgroup for the last three months! cool...
>>   anyhow what do people think of the new ManOwaR album? i haven't seen/heard
>>   it yet and was really wondering about their new guitarist, i saw him on 
>>   an MTV thang some time back (significantly far back) and then waited and
>>   waited for a new album...(it was after the release of Kings, i thought)
>>lemme know...
>>
>>and somebody re that question about Crimson Glory please, i would really like
>>   to hear some new stuff from them...
>>
>>DAle
>>baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu                    Caucasians
>>Shiva
>>Ivan the Trouncable Kuzmovich           the other white meat
>>The Long-Haired Conservative
>>
>
>I picked it up a few weeks ago (had to roam entire Manhattan to get it).
>It's called "The Triumph Of Steel". I love this albom. I should say though,
>that they have changed a bit. Their music has gotten heavier and more
>thrashy/speedy - which I like. They still, of course, have that old
>great "fighting spirit" in their songs. If you liked their previous albums
>-- the new one is a must to have. Highly recommend it.
>Ross The Boss left the band but I guess it's not a big loss.. The New dude
>is just as good (if not even better!) as Ross.
>
>--MITCH--

I think the new Manowar-album is their worst. I like the older 
stuff, like Battle Hyms and Hail To England! Even Fighting The World was 
better. I am very dissapointed! 

                  
       moosE-mail:                 
                  DAGT@SOFUS.DHHALDEN.NO  
                          goose-mail:                 
                                    Dag Thalberg, Talberg   
                                    N-1747 SKJEBERG, NORWAY
From: caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Deicide,Cancer , Demolition Hammer : Houston 11-8-92
Date: 7 Nov 1992 05:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
Keywords: cancelled


cmrtcv@elroy.uh.edu (92F09797) writes:


>I just found out that the Deicide show here in Houston got cancelled...I do
>not know the reason why.  Have any other shows out there been cancelled too?

Bummer!  The show I caught in oakland, california, was simply amazing.  It's
worth sitting through Other Opening Bands to be able to watch Steve kick
in with the double-bass mastery he is so goood at..


-- 
,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,
,;';,   caedmon@ucscb.ucsc.edu               Jeff Ishaq          .,;';,
,;';,   I am a meatball:  Bite me.           Guitar withdrawal!  .,;';,
,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Deicide,Cancer , Demolition Hammer : Houston 11-8-92
Keywords: cancelled
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:26:48 GMT

In article <6NOV199220173743@elroy.uh.edu> cmrtcv@elroy.uh.edu (92F09797) writes:
>
>I just found out that the Deicide show here in Houston got cancelled...I do
>not know the reason why.  Have any other shows out there been cancelled too?
>
>

They played here a few weeks back. Good show, Cancer in particular,
but I enjoyed the Mentors show later that evening, next door, a lot
more. 
Pax
					--Judex--
From: v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (SPAM IS A STATE OF MIND)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Griffen
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <40583@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ) writes...
>In article <Bx71GK.GnB@acsu.buffalo.edu> v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (SPAM IS A STATE OF MIND) writes:
>>
>>  They put out an album on Combat called Hawk the Slayer,this was
>>  back in '84 or so. 
> 
>	"Hawk The Slayer" was a song from that first album.  The title
>of the album itself was "Flight Of The Griffin".  Pretty good, though
>underproduced ... also, it wasn't on Combat, it was on Shrapnel --
>one of the few non-guitar-hero albums that label ever put out.
> 
>> They then signed to Steamhammer and put out
>>  atleast one more(Protector of the Realm)
>>  Does anyone know what happened to this band?
>>  I also know that one of their Guitarists quit and joined Heathen
>>  for their first.
> 
>	Or something like that.  This is from memory ... the two Heathen
>guitarists on their first were Doug Piercy and Lee Altus -- neither
>of these two were in Griffin.  I think the ex-Griffin member you're
>thinking of was bassist Thomas Sprayberry, who did play in Heathen
>(though I don't remember if he was on that album).
> 
    Heathen's album Breaking the Silence featured a guitarist with a
longer last name than the one's above. He was the Griffin guitarist
called Yaz.I even remember seeing him in the Heathen video for
Sweet's Set Me Free. Also,I read (back in 85) that he had left Griffin
to join Heathen for their first release.He is mentioned on the credits
to the latest album as a former bandmate along with a who's who of
Bay area thrashers who joined between the two albums and then quit.
                                                 Mandrake 
>Brian Russ
>CSE Department, UC San Diego
>bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Lawnmower Deth/KIA
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:11:21 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

A little while ago, people were asking about songs that other bands cover,
like Anthrax's cover of "Got the Time."  I have been trying to find out for
some time now who originally did the "Kid's in America" song that Lawnmower
Deth cover's (and mutilates, I might add.  I love it!).  Anybody got any
ideas?

-James 
University of Pennsylvania
ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

"Enter the church of the apocalyptic lawnmower!" 
			-Lawnmower Deth
			"Seventh Curch of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Lawnmower Deth/KIA
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:52:00 GMT

In article <96628@netnews.upenn.edu> ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham) writes:
>A little while ago, people were asking about songs that other bands cover,
>like Anthrax's cover of "Got the Time."  I have been trying to find out for
>some time now who originally did the "Kid's in America" song that Lawnmower
>Deth cover's (and mutilates, I might add.  I love it!).  Anybody got any
>ideas?
>
>-James 
>University of Pennsylvania
>ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>
>"Enter the church of the apocalyptic lawnmower!" 
>			-Lawnmower Deth
>			"Seventh Curch of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower"

Wouldn't be that awful New Wave dance crap "Kids In America" by
Kim somebody...uh Kim Wilde, maybe, would it?

					--Judex--

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