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From: ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns)
Subject: Parents Adjusting and Coping with Crying
Organization: Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:03:01 GMT

We're first-time parents and adjusting has been really hard. We're 
both feeling really anxious and problems with night-time crying are 
not helping. I love the little guy, wouldn't trade him for the world,
and know this is probably something many parents go through, but it is 
really taking its toll. My mom and dad left this morning and I'm 
worried about spending a sleepless night (that's how it is going around
here) without them. For the last two nights I have only used them from 
6-10 a.m. so we could get some sleep, but now we're on our own. Greg 
(daddy) goes back to work tomorrow so he will not be as able to stay up 
and I'm discouraged.

The crying is the hardest.  I came in with my eyes open, and despite some 
tears of my own, I just try to get us through it by holding him, swaying, 
singing, etc. This can go on for hours, although I think I've seen a 
little improvement. 

He is quite uncomfortable and just wails before/during BMs and burps for 
a goodly amount of time (sometimes it seems to take 15 minutes and then 
he'll settle down after some gas/burp, but then he's off again). He makes 
faces, cranes (sp?) his neck (actually he has incredible control for a 
newborn but that's little consolation), wiggles, and screams.  We try 
different positions and sometimes it helps. I'm burping him every 5 minutes 
during feedings now. There may be other explanations for part of the crying 
spells. It's a lot worse at night. 

Does anyone have any advice? 

--Ashley, ashley@osc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ksouth@iguana.dsd.es.com (Kerri South)
Subject: Nice Furniture and kids
Reply-To: ksouth@dsd.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 01:02:05 GMT

My husband and I are about to make some major furniture purchases (now that
we will finally own a home.) We are planning to have a family in the not-too-
distant future. Any advice that I should keep in mind while furniture hunting?
My parents would never buy nice furniture, probably because they figured we'd
ruin it. We had a most ugly naugahyde (sp?) sofa until after I left home!

-- 
Kerri South, Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Design Systems Division, P.O. Box 8070, 
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108        (801) 582-5847 
INET: ksouth@dsd.es.com
From: sudha@pollux.usc.edu (Sudha Kumar)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Going out when ill (was: Re: Nanny sharing input wanted
Date: 27 Jul 1992 12:01:19 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In article <1683177EE.CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech) writes:
> 
> 
>>I wouldn't want to share a caregiver with someone who would send their
>>child in sick.  This is why I'm trying to figure out a way to avoid
>>having to send my children-to-be to daycare.  
>>
> 

>If you don't have kids yet, I suggest not being so critical until you have
>walked in our shoes.  It is very difficult to be a good parent and until
>you have experienced it, you really can't judge our actions.  I have said
>and done things that I said I'd never say and do when I had kids!!  I have
>had to eat my words many times!!!
> 
Teresa


****


Thanks Teresa,

I am just as anxious as any of the other moms about exposing my child
to other sick kids. I DO NOT visit my friends with kids when my baby
has a cold.  In fact, I usually keep my child an extra day home after
a sickness (more for her comfort though).

However, my baby does have some allergies and when her nose if leaking
or she is rubbing her eyes, she does not necessarily have a cold.  At
that time, I determine, if she has a cold or not and if she is
"dangerous" to other kids or not.  When I say, my friend is paranoid,
I say it because she really is paranoid.  I will not go into details
about her behaviour.  She is a wonderful person and we get along very
well but hey! she is still paranoid.  I know her ( and to the person
who flamed me....you don't)

Regards


Sudha



Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: L638615@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (STAFFORD, KD)
Subject: Re: 09 Re: Twelve yr. old caught stealing women's underwear!
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:24:28 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
In article <skipa.712375594@milton> skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertso
>If your 12 yr. old boy was caught stealing women's underwear
>at a department store, what would you do?


	Make him wear it.

--
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......

Some punishment.....what if that's what he wanted to do in the first place?
:-)))))
Newsgroups: misc.kids,sci.med
From: lhafner@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Laurie Hafner)
Subject: Re: Blood types - Mother&Father
Summary: Rhogam
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:05:00 GMT

In article <18687@drutx.ATT.COM>, kgs@drutx.ATT.COM (Karen Swayze) writes...

>OB/GYN.  This blood mismatch is not a problem anymore.

In 99% of cases.  Unfortunately, there is a slight possibility that
the mother will still become sensitized - it is a less than 1% chance,
but can still happen.

>I've never heard of any case where someone had the antibodies built up
>before pregnancy, but it is possible to have it happen early in the
>pregnancy if bleeding from the placenta occurrs.  Again, check with your
>Ob/Gyn and be sure to mention that your husband is RH positive.

You hear now!  A real live case.  I became sensitized even after receiving
RhoGam.  It happens so rarely now that it really is not a problem for most
women.  There really is no explanation for why it happens - possibly early
bleeding in the first pregnancy - before the RhoGam is given (I received 
RhoGam at 28 weeks and immediately following delivery).  The antigen D did 
not show up until 28 weeks of my second pregnancy.  Very strange.  I followed
up to Jennifer (original poster) and also suggested that she not worry.  But
to clarify, it can still happen!

Laurie Hafner, Weeg Computing Center, University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa  52242
lhafner@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mpaul@unlinfo.unl.edu (marxhausen paul)
Subject: Re: Musical Tapes For babies/toddlers
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:07:48 GMT

<comments about Chapins neat environmental songs deleted>

A while ago our 5 YO used some gift money to pick out a Raffi's "Evergreen/
Everblue" CD.  A couple comments: it IS a good album, but it's not intended
so much as a "kids" album as an adults consciousness-raising album, and the
liner notes say so.  Annie happens to like it fine but it's not exactly
like his other albums.

The other thing that was a little unsettling was the song that starts

Our Dear, Dear Mother
Daily Provider
Earth be your name
The time has come to honor you
to know you and to show you our love

...etc.   While I'm not looking for pagans under the bushes, this tune
was uncomfortably church-like and didn't fly well in our Lutheran domicile...

-- 
===============================================================================
paul marxhausen                              \/               grace 
university of nebraska - lincoln             /\              happens           
===============================================================================
From: ad4@prism.gatech.EDU (Angela Dubose)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Need help with Assisting my child with dyslexia
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:13:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


        Once again, hello, misc.kid folks.  I need some advice...  My
daughter, Mandy, who will soon be five is still writing backwards.  My
brother has dyslexia and I found out recently that it runs in my mother's
side of the family.  I have quizzed the doctor previously in this regards
and was told that a lot of children write letters backwards when they
are first learning and to just wait and see if she outgrows it, however,
that was over a year ago.  I, due to my mother's recent death and going
through her personal items, found a bunch of my brother's earlier writing
attempts before he worked through learning how to cope with dyslexia and
compensate for it, and his writing looks exactly like Mandy's.  I have
quizzed my brother on how I should handle this with Mandy to help her
learn to compensate and how to explain to her what it is that she is
compensating for and he says that he doesn't remember anything that mom
did, just that he had one very extremely stressful year - THAT he still
DOES remember.  With her fixing to start kindergarten I would like to know
now if the school has any programs to deal with this and what I can do at
home to help her deal with this also.

        Mandy has her physical for school on August 4th and I intend to
pen the doctor down at that time for any advice and help she can give at
that time.  The next day I'll register her for school and find out if they
have any special programs (couldn't register her until her physical is done -
couldn't get her physical sooner due to everybody getting scheduled for
physicals to start school - did schedule one earlier and found out at that
time that she had an ear and eustachian tube infection and they couldn't
do the exam until this was cleared up).

        But, more specifically, those of you who have dyslexia and those of
you who have children who do - please pass on any experiences that will be
helpful, readings, suggestions, courses of action, etc.  All of this will be
greatly appreciated.  Also, for my own information, from those of you who are
dyslexic, would you please tell me of how this has affected you or made you feel
so I can help Mandy deal with these feelings and be a little better prepared
to deal with it myself.

        Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.  Sorry so lengthy.

        Thanks in advance.
-- 
DUBOSE,ANGELA R
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!ad4
Internet: ad4@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: sdc@nsscmail.att.com (Sheryl D. Chapin)
Subject: RE: drugs during labor and when normal after
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:33:13 GMT


Oooh, I get to tell my labor story.

Pregnancy does funny things to you :-) When I first got pregnant, I
wanted a midwife, a home birth and no drugs, 9 months later, I wanted
a doctor, a hospital and an epidural.  I got 2 of the 3.  I went to the
hospital to be induced, I arrived Wed night to be given ptocin (sp?) Thur
moring around 9 o'clock.  At 4:25 AM the baby kicked me and threw me right 
into hard labor.  Actually, at first the nurse thought he hit a nerve or
tore a ligament, it took 15 minutes before they realized I was in active
labor, 60 second contraction every 2 min.  They called Gary to come and he
got there around 5:20 (He went home to get some sleep before they started
the induction) when he got there I said "I want something" they said it's
to soon.  An hour later I said "I want something - NOW!" they said it's
to late.  A little later (an hour?) the nurse checked to see how dialated
I was and the baby was almost crowning.  She said we have to push now and
I said Why, he got this far on his own. 25 min later Max was born. Exactly
4 hrs from start to finish, he was born at 8:25.  He was 8 lbs, 10 oz and
had the cord around his neck.  I was not to aware of what was going on at
this point but Gary was very impressed with my Dr.  Gary said he just slipped
the cord from around Max's neck and it was no big deal.  Max was born wide
awake and kicking (literally).  

At the time, I was really pissed at my Dr. for not giving me an epidural
when I wanted it. (In fact my first words to him in the delivery room WERE
I'm pissed at you) But in retrospect, I am glad, Max was very alert from
the moment he was born (he's 3 MO now) and I actually recovered very quickly.
2 weeks after he was born I put on a pair of my regualr jeans and drove the
car, 2 things I had not been able to do for MONTHS!  That was when I finally
felt normal.  The next four weeks were GREAT! Then I had to go back to work.
Fortunatly, I have excellent day care.  Gary works at home and takes care of
Max.



Sheryl (mother of Parker Butler Chapin, proudly named after his Great-great-
        grandfather Ellis Parker Butler - but that's such a mouthfull that
        we call him Max after his grandfather Parker Max Chapin)
crowning. 
-- 
It was only for kicks cracks and flacks plicks and placks and plickers--
Lackplacker Lackplicker loundwadtti Daago--Nickers flickers lackplicker--
Kicks flicks plack and ack lackflacmac ack ack macflackack ...
						-- Roscoe Mitchell
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mmeyer@m2.dseg.ti.com (Mark Meyer)
Subject: Re: Info about a game wanted
Organization: TI DSEG, Spring Creek, Plano, Tx.
	<1992Jul29.143006.57625@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:01:22 GMT


	Oh, I see.  There are Canada and Atlantic Ocean cards to use
to get out of Maine.  Hmm.  Is there more than one Pacific Ocean card?
If it's the only way to get to Hawaii, and the only way out...

-- 
Mark Meyer                                               | mmeyer@dseg.ti.com |
Texas Instruments, Inc.                                  +--------------------+
Every day, Jerry Junkins is grateful that I don't speak for TI.
   "I had a terrible nightmare...I dreamt Merlin Olsen was sending me flowers."
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 13:39:41 EDT
From: Ailsa N.T. Murphy <IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: baby's last name?
 <1992Jul22.121232.12640@linus.mitre.org> <19460@optima.cs.arizona.edu>

my apologies to all the fathers i insulted with my post in this
thread.  i should never write posts on possibly imflammatory
subjects when i am ripsnorting mad from a flame war i am in the
middle of in another newsgroup.  i am still a committed matrili-
nealist, but the sperm-thing comment was uncalled-for and i am
sorry.
                                       -ailsa
--
It's not what you got, it's what you give           _______________
It ain't the life you want, it's the life you live. \    DYKE    /
It's not what you got, it's what you give             \ PRIDE! /
And it ain't what it's not, but what it is.             \    /
(IO81409@maine.maine.edu or wang.com!ailanth!ailsa)       \/
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer)
Subject: Re: Why Is Peeing Yucky?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:40:16 GMT

brett@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Brett K. Carver) writes:

>In misc.kids, sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch) writes:

>> Actually, urine is sterile.

>It may be, but it contains a LOT of stuff that promotes bacteria growth.
>Every seen (or smelled) an unflushed (urine only) toilet after a couple of
>days?  There's something growing in there...

>Note: sterile does NOT mean clean, good for other uses, etc.

Sterile DOES mean clean.  There are zero, zip, zilch, none, nada, goose
egg, the big Z, null set, number of bacteria in a sterile fluid or on
a sterile media.  It *IS* a wonderful growth media, but that only matters
if a bacteria falls into it.  I can understand why the Boy Scouts would
want to treat a wound with urine.  The force of the stream and the
almost certain (barring infection on the part of the supplier :)
sterility would wash out bacteria while assuring that no new ones were
introduced by the "water" provided.

>> One tip I got for treating emergency cuts
>> during camping trips in the wild is to clean them with urine.

>It would have to be pretty dirty for me to try that.

>I think I'll wait for a stream, thank you.  What, no water you say?
>Then I've got more important things to worry about that a dirty cut.

Oooh, bad idea.  How do you know there isn't a dead, decaying sheep lying
in fifty yards upstream?  Fish defecate AND urinate in it.  Bacteria, mold,
and spores from leaves wash into it after every storm. Many streams have 
giardia problems (a very nasty intestinal parasite).  No question about
it.  If boiled water is not immediately available, please drop 'em and
relieve yourselves on my open wound.  It may sound disgusting, but the
human body is one heck of a filter.

>							Brett Carver
>							brett@sr.hp.com

Steve Kellmeyer
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Infants in swimming pools
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:41:54 GMT
	<1992Jul16.170427.13401@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
	<1992Jul16.191028.25485@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
	<1992Jul17.153137.25393@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Organization: Sylvan Associates


   lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) writes:

   This thread is about putting diapers on children in the swimming
   pool. If a child is still in diapers, and you put them in the pool
   with out them, I think it is extremely inapropriate to scold them for
   accidents. If they had control of thier bodily functions they wouldnt
   need diapers in the first place.

 jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings) writes:

  If a child isn't told what is bad and what is good then they won't
  know. This is called scolding.  It doesn't have to be unpleasant but
  does need to be firm.  The kid didn't get in the pool knowing what was
  acceptable and what wasn't.  She now knows that pooping while swimming
  is a no-no.

And how is this child, who isn't potty trained (we are talking about
children who wear diapers out of the pool, and how to dress them to go
into the pool), HOW is this child supposed to not poop while swimming?!
(other than it is normally an uncommon occurrence for most babies). If
she knew how to control it, she wouldn't need diapers outside the
pool, now would she. Next you better scold her for drooling (that's
also not acceptable in public, it's gross!). And scold her again if
she points and grunts for something instead of saying 'please', even
if she can't talk yet!
-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92
=======================
I'm a mammal and proud of it!

4 month old Robin weighed 17.5 lbs, 25.5 inches tall, solely breastfed
by 'supermomcow' :-)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: sudha@pollux.usc.edu (Sudha Kumar)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Juvenile Diabetes and cows milk (new study)
Date: 30 Jul 1992 14:04:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


In article <1992Jul30.171739.11395@mdd.comm.mot.com> nelson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Mike Nelson) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul27.124310.5557@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> gordonb@mot.com 
>>(Gordon Berkley) writes:

Research link cows milk and the onset of Juvenile Diabetes in people
>genetically prone to the disease. It has to do
>with some enzymes found in cows milk that trigger the
>disease.
>


Yes,  I read about the study in today's (7/30) issue of L.A. Times and
was really interested.  My family is prone to diabetes (my sister is a
juvenile diabetic) and there is diabetes in Vijay's side of the family too.
Naturally, Anu getting diabetes is pretty much on my mind.

Fortunately, Anupama is on soy formula because of allergies but, does
anyone know if soy formula (Prosobee) has any enzyme which is linked to
diabetes?

Thanks

Sudha
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nelson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Mike Nelson)
Subject: Re: Cute things (21 months)
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:35:18 GMT

Justine has seen her mother feeding the new baby numerous times.
Recently she climbed onto the feeding chair, put a pillow on her lap
and a burping blanket on her shoulder. She then pulled up her
shirt top and pointed to the blanket meaning for us
to put the baby there.

Mike N.
From: lynn@elan.Elan.COM (Lynn Gazis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Thanks + Question re: Sharing between one-year-olds (LONG)
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:45:41 GMT
Reply-To: lynn@elan (Lynn Gazis)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA

Judy Leedom Tyrer writes:

> This bothers me and I'll tell you why.  I was the younger cousin of a bully
> [Description of bullying deleted.]
> ... not ONCE did any adult intervene.  I was told things like "ignore
> him and he won't pick on you".  He would break my things, really hurt me
> (once almost putting my eye out), etc.   And were left to "work things
> out".

I know what that's like (not this kind of bullying, but the adult
reaction), since some adults told me the same thing when I complained
to them about the group of boys who attacked and bullied me from first
through eighth grade.  Also, "He just does it because he LIKES you"
(what kind of message is that for a little girl?).

I also share some of Judy's concern.  In fairness to Tigger, it sounds
as if her advice wasn't meant to apply to the kind of situation Judy
describes.  And the situation originally described (one toddler taking
a toy from another toddler of the same age) might well be a situation
where parents should stand back and give the children a chance to work
it out.

But it seems to me that every time I look at a book on parenting, the
section on arguments always gives this same advice, to intervene as
little as possible, and they tend to ignore the problem of what to
do when the playing field isn't so level.  As for example that group
of boys (any one of whom I could handle, verbally and in a fist fight,
but there were too many of them and just one of me).  Or, for another
example, older siblings.  My mother was quick to protect the younger
ones when she thought the older child was picking on the younger.
(She also often intervened in arguments between children about the
same age (usually not by settling the argument but by telling both
children to sit somewhere until they calmed down).) Joel's mother was not.  
Guess who gets along with her six years older brother, and who said 
that _My Life As a Dog_ looked just like his relationship with his 
six years older brother?  

So I don't find "interfere as little as possible" all that helpful.  
Rather, I would like to know how to tell *when* to interfere 
(especially with a younger child, who probably needs both some support 
from parents so the older child won't take advantage and some opportunity 
to learn how to work things out).  If parents can do children a disservice 
by interfering too much, they can also do them a disservice by interfering 
too little (or by interfering in the wrong way - though Joel's mother
was less inclined to jump in to defend the younger, she's not exactly
a hands off parent and in fact is more inclined to try to run his life
now than my mother is to try to run mine).

Lynn Gazis-Sax
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