HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My Bad Mouth
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:45:17 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

John Dorrance writes:

>Out of deduction and backtracking, I can say fairly conclusively
>that I thought Jess Anderson was a complete asshole ten months
>ago today. I feel differently about him now; I should hope that
>there's ample evidence to show.

[conspicuous weeping in cubicle]  *sniff*  Oh how nice that we can all
finally get along.  Jess loves JD, JD loves Jess, everyone now loves
Matthew.  *sniff*  Only an assured Clinton victory would make this a
better place to be.  Well, maybe having Jason Priestley sitting in my
lap as I type this ...

*E-HUGS!*  *E-HUGS!*
-- 
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i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

"In America, we can't even get corruption right."  - my flight instructor.
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Birthday Greetings (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Keywords: expensive jewelry
Date: 10 Oct 92 12:03:18 GMT
Organization: (getting there)


Steven Levine comments, and Arne Adolphson asks:
    >> Mara's Marty, by the way, turns 50 soon.
  >How soon is soon?

Tomorrow.  He's tickled to hear that he's become part
of this conversation.  He's tickled anyhow, on a regular
basis, by someone who has his best interests (and hers)
at heart.

We haven't entirely figured out how to celebrate the 
event.  I'd hoped to give him a party, but we're between
apartments at the momen and neither is habitable, much 
less presentable.

That is another article which I keep meaning to write.  
Perhaps after the move my mind will clear enough so that
I can get to it.  For now, suffice it to say that the move
is four (count them) blocks, and we can keep our current 
phone number.

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: The Rainbow Flag
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:29:47 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno) wrote:
>The rainbow flag is so common and benign that lot of sheltered heteros  
>don't even notice it, much less wonder what it means!

But we can apparently rely on the homophobes to educate everyone for us.
A lot more San Franciscans probably know what it means now.

       Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
"It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold
From: IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Further Butchification
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:00:20 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)

=before i gave up and went to bed to doze fitfully and sweat out
=my fever this afternoon, i *did* have lunch with a woman friend who's
=become a great admirer of our ailsa's postings on alt.pagan.  everything's
=connected to everything else.

who?  who?  don't tease, now!!!  B)

                                            -ailsa
======================================================================

Amazing how long it takes the CAPS office to delete accounts!  B)

ALL MAIL TO ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com, please...
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:00:23 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <ld8v2tINNmq8@spim.mti.sgi.com>, dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff
Dauber) wrote:
> 
> AAARRRGGG!!!!!
> 
> Not to spelling flame, but if you are going to try and be clever, 
> at least spell correctly.
> 
> It is Jezebel.  There is no "i" in the word. 

I've only known one woman with this name, and she spelled it with an
'i.'  Kind of like Shawn vs. Shaun.  Kathy vs. Cathy.  Kris vs. Chris.
John vs. Jon.  Qadafi vs. Khadafy.  /etc/etc

Really.

A spelling flame over a name?  There is seriously only *one* way to
spell 'Jezebel?'  It was not based on the movie.  It was a name that
sounded like 'Jess.'  It seems to be very chic around here to modify
names.  Not wanting to be anything other than chic, I adopted the 
silly little game.  It's actually kind of fun.

Melmothra, ACC
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.politics.homosexuality
From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: A proposal: A new newsgroup
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:11:12 GMT


I would like to propose forming a new newsgroup.

Considering the reception the AIDS quilt received this weekend in
Washington, and the fact that it has become so large, and so difficult
to display because there aren't too many places big enough to display
it, I propose we form a new group as a place to post remembrances of our 
loved ones who have fallen to this horrible plague.

Any debate would be appreciated, and if a consensus is reached, I would
be grateful if one of the more knowledgable members of the group make 
whatever steps necessary to implement this.

Thank you.
-- 
*...your Friendly Neighborhood Atheist  //  Newsflash from the Vatican: *
*      the KelleyMan:Kelley L. Miller  //  "Easter has been cancelled...*    
*                  ae642@yfn.ysu.edu  //  Someone found the body...."   *
****************Know God...No peace.  No God...Know peace.***************
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Ann Lander's YUCK!
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:29:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.175729.23809@rtsg.mot.com> houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) writes:
>Jess - would you mind defining "straight-acting lesbian," please?
>Let me guess - stereotypical bimbo - bleached bonde hair, implants,
>gobs of makeup, pounds of jewelry, brainless, spends all of her
>time shopping...

You mean a femme? :-)

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: What adjectives do you think best describe romantic jealousy?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:19:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct7.161957.29453
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct7.150833.1880@osf.org> coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
>> I also haven't ever been in a situation where
>> I would feel very jealous.  Maybe I just need more experience.
>Well, maybe something can be arranged... Tony *is* an attractive man... :-)

If you think that would get a rise out of me, you'd be right.
But not a bone of jealousy.

:-)


-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:58:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.224932.840@calmasd.prime.com>,
jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop) corrects Greg Parkinson's use of
"avocado gold":
> 
> Uh, it's avocado *green* or *harvest* gold.  In the 70's you obviously
> spent more time at the disco than in the kitchen.  Avocado gold sounds
> like some kind of tequila based chip dip.

To me, "avocado gold" suggests "Acapulco Gold", which was a "brand
name" for a type of supposedly high-quality cannabis back in the late
'60s to early '70s (maybe it still is?).

(There was a rumor around 1969 that one of the major tobacco companies
had copyrighted the name "Acapulco Gold" on the theory that pot was
going to be legalized soon. Hah.)

> Of course to be fashionable
> today it would teal or Navajo white...which I hope doesn't turn out to
> be unfortunate mistake too soon.  (Is there a timeless appliance
> color?)

Qu'est-ce que c'est "Navajo white"? Is this more or less white than
"white"?

Robert (who has no fashion sense to speak of)
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ann Lander's YUCK!
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:18:44 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>Well, granted that I've done no sociology papers on this
>hole topic, my not entirely negligible experience of butch
>types with way too much testosterone is that the butcher
>they are, the more they want it up the heinie.  I couldn't
>very well say no, could I, I mean after all, I always obey
>great big butch men in such circumstances, always.  

>To tell the gospel truth, I've done it with a lot of
>straight men and it was the main thing they were interested
>in, indeed not a single one wasn't interested in that as the
>main thing.  The only men I've ever been with who didn't
>want to get fucked were gay.

I think it's a submission/power thing.  I really get off when the
tables are turned on these overly macho types.  "Centurion Butch,
defeated after a valiant Olympic wrestling struggle, finds himself
humiliatingly and helplessly empaled on his conquerer's noble Roman
pillar of manhood..."
-- 
Brent Capps                          | Pardon me boy/is that the Call of
bcapps@agora.rain.com (gay stuff)    | Great Cthulhu/in the city of slime/
bcapps@atlastele.com (telecom stuff) | where it's dark all the time?
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:45:37 GMT

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>It makes Madonna's cone-tit outfit look like
>something from off the rack in the Cheryl Tiegs boutique at Sear's.

	If it *were* madonna's.  She stole idea that from yet-another
icons of the past.

BBC
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Flu season is coming
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:20:21 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.015122.20221@sporty.col.oh.us>, jeff@sporty.col.oh.us (Jeff Anderson) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.010549.13754@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
|> >A reminder: flu season is coming up.  This year's flu shots are now
|> >available. 
|> 
|> Everybody I know who has ever had a flu shot came down with the flu two
|> or three weeks later.  I think I'll pass!

I have been getting flu shots for the last three years
and haven't had a serious case of the flu during that
period.  Before that I would get a case that would
take a month to get over.

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Tired and Impatient (was Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.)
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:37:16 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Oct14.180538.21522@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:


|> >Nope, it does not make you a tired intellectual, it makes you a pompous
|> >intellectual....
|> 
|> You're in no danger, don't worry.


Wow, what witty reparte'!  I have been cut to the quick... Next time
will your response be "sez you!"?


FWA
From: tachyon@cats.ucsc.edu (Tane' Tachyon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Scott Lively convicted, and this week's hate crimes
Date: 9 Oct 1992 01:35:15 GMT
Organization: Tachyon Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
Keywords: OCA, Measure 9, hate crimes


In article <1992Oct8.072606.15501@lclark.edu> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>I don't know about the exhibit but I heard about a year ago that there
>was opposition to having any references to GBLO* victims at the national
>memorial being built in D.C.  Is this still a factor?  I haven't heard
>any thing for a while.  I have made a decision about not singing with
>PGMC on Oct. 25th at the AF exhibit based on the memorial controversy.  So
>if I anyone out there has an update please let me know!

The fundraising/membership letter I got from the Holocaust Museum last
year *did* talk about LGB people being among the groups persecuted and
murdered by the Nazis.  I joined for a year and told them I was
pleased to see that the museum was honoring the memory of *all*
victims of the holocaust, as it should.
 
However, I don't remember seeing any more mentions in the newsletters
they've sent me.  I'd *assume* that the museum talks about the LGB
victims of the holocaust, just because of that first letter, but I
haven't actually been there.  I, too, would like to find out about
this.
 
BTW, getting a museum membership seems to have put this not-raised-in-
any-religion person on at least one "junk mail for Jewish people"
mailing list.

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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:12:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct15.172511.17194@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> gsmith@lauren.uucp (Gene W. Smith) writes:
>
>Then there is the learning curve of *other* people.  After Clay left,
>various people chimed in to say that they didn't flame him out of fear
>of thermonuclear retaliation.

I tried to provoke Clay, and didn't get anywhere.  Some people have all the
luck. 

-- 

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From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Vanessa Redgrave to Play a Lesbian!
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:21:10 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, 86/92 Causewayside, Edinburgh EH9 1PY, UK

In article <1992Oct12.184301.15770@tc.cornell.edu>,
shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:

> In article <1bc5bmINNrp4@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM writes:
> >Huh?  Vanessa is the off-the-wall one with the odd views on politics and such!!
> 
> Depends on your perspective.  Vanessa is a fairly classical
> leftist; Lynn is a Capitalist Tool who is embarrassed by
> her father's homosexuality and by her sister's politics.
> I'll take Vanessa, thankyouverymuch.

Vanessa was a member of the Workers' Revolutionary Party, a
Trotskyite group.  When they split she followed the
Healeyite wing, where as far as I know she still is.  They
are a very traditionalist bunch, sectarian and, these days,
fairly insignificant.  (Her brother Corin is also a member,
I think.)

--John
From: jbaron@dirac.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Intolerance?
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:22:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunova.1992Oct15.222243.10792
Reply-To: jbaron@dirac.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Lab

Jess Anderson writes:
- 
- In article <1992Oct15.195456.5968@sunova.ssc.gov>
- jbaron@dirac.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron) writes:
- 
- >Does this mean that one who has a belief in tolerance for all,
- >but has no tolerance for intolerant people is, him or herself,
- >a hypocrite?  If one has tolerance for the intolerant, does
- >that make him or her a fool?
- 
- I think this is simply sophistry.

It may be, and I'll assume that you didn't mean this as
an insult, but to me, this is an important question, 
your non-answer notwithstanding.

In the context of the original question, do insults hurled 
at someone who often uses them him or herself make the 
hurler subject to the same charge, even if they never 
partake in that behavior otherwise?

I don't think that *either* question is so clear cut, but
then again, I had to look up the word "sophistry."

Jeff

(Sorry for the subject line confusion.)
From: wood@siemens.com. (Jim Wood)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: John Gielgud / Secret Agent
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:25:36 GMT

ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes about John Gielgud:

>You mean you've never seen _Arthur_ (w/ Dudley Moore)?  Gielgud won
>an acadamy award for best supporting actor in that one...

>motss relevence: Moore and Gielgud played to single men living together,
>and there WERE expressions of love...

Not to mention the most famous quote of the movie, by John Gielgud to
Dudley Moore:
	"Arthur, would you like me to wash your dickie for you?"

--
Jim Wood [jwood@siemens.siemens.com] (609) 734-3643
"Rise up on the wings of eagles, and two step among the stars.
 You are not forgotten.  Your smile will echo forever."
   -- Ryerson Schwark, to our friend Rob Bernardo.
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: By popular demand..
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:07:48 GMT
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

The script: Nelson sitting in a computer room with some other folks.

Nelson furtively skips out to ursa-major.spdcc.com, gets all the FJ
pics. Displays them (happily, in colour) on his workstation.

some other folks: "Is that alt.binaries.pictures.erotica"?
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/       Before the cream sits out too long, you must whip it
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Joan-Rhymes (was Re: Sean)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 19:05:37 GMT



In article <sean@kaa.gr.osf.org> emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn
McManus) writes:

>I tend to pronounce the name more like a long "shon" than "shawn".

My turn to be surprised. 

>This also how I pronounce the word "shone", 

*That's* what surprised me.  I could seen Se'an being rather
different in your pronunciation from the way we say it here
(indistinguishable from "shawn"), but that you wouldn't
distinguish Se'an from "shone" astounds me in turn (such are
the vagaries of the brands of English, I guess).

I would use a much more rounded vowel in "shone,"

>which I was recently
>startled to discover rhymes with Joan for some people.

and would call all of these *exact* rhymes:

loan
Joan
shone
tone
roan (a reddish horse)
sewn

and, not quite so exact a rhyme:

blown

Why this last word comes to mind, I can't imagine.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton)
Subject: Re: "I Hate Gay Men" text
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:42:04 GMT

Robert Lodenkamper (robertl@luciano.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>  (Ron Buckmire) writes: 
> 
>    >dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
> 
>    >>Yawn.  Didn't we flog this dead horse about a year ago?
> 
>    >I doubt it, since the piece was distributed at the 1992 New York
>    >City Pride Parade.
> 
> But not, I think, written the night before the parade, since this
> particular horse did get a flogging here some time ago.
------------
I think the most recent flogging took place this year, right after
the Parades.  Someone saw it (I think in New York), and posted it
for all to share.  Maybe it's come up before -- I don't know.

Mike Drayton      mdrayton@sr.hp.com       Hewlett-Packard Co.
                                           Santa Rosa, California
From: stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Joan-Rhymes (was Re: Sean)
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:49:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct9.214932.7071
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct9.190537.3069@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>and would call all of these *exact* rhymes:
>loan
>Joan
>shone
>tone
>roan (a reddish horse)
>sewn
>
>and, not quite so exact a rhyme:
>
>blown
>
>Why this last word comes to mind, I can't imagine.

But the answer is right on the tip of your tongue, yes?  ;-)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: Re: Anagram program
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:30:51 GMT

In <1468@dosbears> drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston) writes:

>In article <1992Oct13.120512.8153@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>
>>I['ve] got Digital Webster on *this* machine ...

>BTW, the OED 2nd edition is out on CD-ROM now.  It's supposed
>to have very good search procedures, in addition to all the words
>and definitions of the printed version. Of course, it costs $895....

Which is, I believe, about half the cost of the 12 volume hardcopy.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:52:38 GMT

In article <1b5daaINNlrf@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:

>Oh yes, there are some painters, too.

Some what?

-- 
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