HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: TV prices
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:46:44 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: rec.video

In article <1553@idacrd.UUCP>, sidney@idacrd.UUCP (Raymond M. Sidney) writes:
|> So with the reasonably-immediate advent of HDTV, is it worth buying a nice
|> television set (some largish TV, at least 27 inches)?  Even if it is 5 years
|> or more before HDTV monitors are available in the USA for a vaguely affordable
|> price, I have a friend who thinks that pretty much as soon as HDTV is 
|> introduced at all (i.e., 1993, I guess), all the "newly-obsoleted" TVs around
|> will go way down (permanently) in price.
|> 
|> What do people think about this?  Does it seem likely?
|> 
|> 							-- Ray Sidney
As someone who just bought a large TV I may be biased, however, there
are several things to consider.  First, even if a standard is adopted,
the most optimistic manufacturers are hoping to produce HDTV sets for
only $1000 more than a comprable NTSC set.  Therefore, the technology
will be substantially more expensive and the gap will likely be larger 
for big screen sets.  Second, VCRs, disc players, etc. when they are 
developed will also cost more.  Finally, broadcasters will be slow to
switch.  It took almost 10 years to get wide acceptance of stereo TV,
and that's cheap in comparison to switching to HDTV.  I would be greatly
surprised if the transition is not slow, and it will undoubtedly take
5-10 years after the standard is accepted to get wide acceptance. 
Also transitional devices, i.e., HDTV-NTSC converters will be available so
you should be able to use your set, though probably not with the added
resoulution.  Therefore, I wouldn't worry about buying a TV as long as 
it is not one you expect to keep for 20 years.

Sam
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re: Converting videosignals : PAL <--> NTSC ( Questions )
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:45:21 GMT


In article <1992Aug12.230209.27978@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jrtz@dali.cc.rochester.edu (John Ritz) writes...
>I was wondering if anyone out there knows if there is a company that
>makes a box that will convert an incoming NTSC videosignal to a 
>PAL videosignal ( both 50Hz and 60Hz ) , converting a PAL 60Hz 

The Panasonic AG-W1 will do that. You don't need to use it's VCR functions to
use the conversion circuitry.

The low cost Aiwa units that have been discussed on this group included a
converter-only version (don't know how it compares to the W1's conversion, or
if/when it will be released in the US).

The next step up would be pro standards converters which tend to be in the $10K
or greater price range.

gary
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: nyarko@ee.ualberta.ca (David Nyarko)
Subject: Re: Has anyone seen the Aiwa VCR that plays SECAM/NTSC?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:09:54 GMT

jpl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade) writes:

>THe subject says it all.  On the other hand, if anyone else has seen
>other machines capable of playing SECAM (in color) to an NTSC TV,
>I would appreciate hearing about it.
>thanks
>patrick

>--
>John Patrick Lestrade, PhD                             jpl1@ra.msstate.edu
>Department of Physics and Astronomy                    batse::lestrade  (SPAN)
>Mississippi State University, MS 39762                 lestrade@msstate.bitnet

The machines the HV-MG330 and the MG110 can only play tapes in
the normal speed (ie SP for NTSC) but no EP or SLP modes. The
HV-MG330 has a built in tuner while the MG110 has none.
The models I saw appeared to be made for the European market,
since the tuner of the HV-MG330 was specified as being able 
to receive the PAL VHF and UHF broadcast frequencies. An
article I saw in one of the electronic magazines mentioned
the release of a model for the North American market sometime
next year I presume it might be capable of receiving the
cable channels.
From: trwei@PICA.ARMY.MIL ("Tony K. Wei", FSAC-SID)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Off-screen programming
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:09:35 GMT
Organization: The Internet

>Are there any modern VCRs available that allow "off-screen programming"
>-- that is, programming the VCR without requiring a TV?  (There are
>lots of reasons to do this: not wanting to disturb another person
>watching TV, not wanting to disturb another person sleeping in the same
>room, TV broken or otherwise temporarily unavailable, etc.)  I recall
>that this subject was discussed here some months ago, but I don't
>remember what the conclusions were.

>(By the way, this is another reason for an intelligent person to buy a
>VCR+: it allows programming ANY VCR without turning on the TV.)

>- David D. Levine, Intel Supercomputer Systems Division == davidl@ssd.intel.com
>  "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."

When you program your VCR to turn on and record a certain program do you 
program your TV to turn on also?  The answer is no.  Hence, you just did
off-screen programming.  Since the VCR has it's own turner, a TV is not 
required.  It is only required to view what you have recorded. The display 
on your VCR should provide enough information to guide you through your 
programming.  Hope this helps.

Tony
From: rwittick@ibm.cl.msu.edu (Bob Wittick)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Star Wars LBX from Columbia House
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:40:01 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University

In article <34415@cbmvax.commodore.com>, raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob
Raible - LSI Design) wrote:
> No need for a flame war but perhaps we could hold a survey on percentage of
> discs returned to CHLDC.

Ijust did a quick count from my inventory list, and since joining CHLDC
last December, I have bought 18 discs from them.  None of them had to be
returned.  I did have to return a Criterion disc to Tewksbury, and I had
to return another disc to a local store.

                  Bob Wittick
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Subject: Romancing of the Three Kingdoms
Reply-To: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:41:12 GMT


I need someone to help me here. :)

I hope this message is posted at the right place, otherwise, please
excuse me. :)

Recently, I heard that in CA, the International Channel aired a
23 episode show of the Romancing of the Three Kingdoms. I have no
relative over there and I needed the series for a re-creation of
culture teaching to many friends of mine. There is about 20 people
who are VERY interested in the chinese 'dynasty' and we are
trying to recreate the 3 kingdoms era, and we are going to dress up,
learn how to speak, talk, drink, eat as that time era. 

If you can help me, please do so. If you have a copy of these series,
please help me. Thanks.

-- 
No one is a failure... Keep up your dream and you will find it!
Ask always WISDOM from God!
From: bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: NTSC/PAL laserdisk and pro-logic amp
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:47:02 GMT
Distribution: rec.video
Organization: IXI Ltd.



A question... I am currently using a Yamaha AVX700 pro-logic amp, with 
my VCR and TV. I am based in the UK (PAL) and am thinking of getting a
laserdisk player. PAL disks are slowly getting more common thanks to
Pioneer and now Sony, but the player I will get will be able to play
NTSC so I can tap into the US disk supply. My question therefore is,
since the video source connects to the AVX700 which then routes the 
picture to the TV, are there going to be problems passing an NTSC
video signal through. The TV will be able to play NTSC (Multistandard).

Also can anyone suggest any places in the US where I can buy laserdisks
via phone with mastercard and have them sent to me in the UK, thus 
cutting out the greedy UK middlemen.

-Bov!
 
--
                    _________________________  ___ ___ ___
IXI Ltd            |       bov@x.co.uk       | \  /  //  /   
62-74 Burleigh St. |  *  Andy  Bovingdon  *  |  `/  //  /.   
Cambridge, England.|_________________________|  /__//__/__\  
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: freedmanm@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: Problems with VCR video feedbackSKIP
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:46:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.165649.3830@bnr.ca>, sorflet@bnr.ca (Winston Sorfleet) writes:
> I have a fairly new (Mitsubishi U-55) VCR that seems to have a video feedback
> problem:  With output connected to receiver input, input connected to 
> receiver output, VCR external input selected (so that I can play or record
> to/from the receiver) and no active signal present, I get a flashing white
> line burst on my monitor.  Putting a resistor in series with the input
> solves the problem by reducing the gain, but also attenuates the brightness
> on the TV.  The store technician tells me that this is an unavoidable problem
> with newer VCRs (my old mono JVC doesn't have this problem).  What I'd like
> to know is (1) is this true (2) do I have any recourse from Mitsubishi and
> (3) if not, is there a simple circuit I can whip together to solve this?
> The VCR is still under warranty, but no-where is it _specified_ that this
> setup (which must be pretty common) is guaranteed to work.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Winston Sorfleet  |  Bell-Northern Research  |  sorflet@.bnr.ca
> 
> Opinions expressed are purely personal and do not represent Northern Telecom
> or Bell-Northern Research in any way.



I have a Mitsubishi U62 VCR.  As far as I am concerned, Mitsubishi makes by far
the best VCRs.  I do however see the same problem that you do.  It is only when
there is no signal present on the channel that the VCR is on.  If you dont want
any flashing, either turn on the menu, or keep a video signal going to it.  I
hope I have understood you post and that this will help....
						Mike.
From: teoallan@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Allan TEO)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 01:05:58 GMT
Subject: 3rd Party combi editcontrols wanted
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: rec.video

Hi,
 Can someone give me some brands of EDIT Controllers
 for the consumer that can control

    PANASONIC + SONY...


    Eg say a Tr101 camcorder hooked up to a
    PANASONIC S-VHS DECK with panasonic edit control
    Jack.


If you can provide a list, brand, price of the various
combinations: IE JVC+PANASONIC, JVC+SONY , PANSONIC+Hitachi... etc
It would be great!

Regds
Allan
From: rkim@CALSTATELA.EDU ("Richard H.S. Kim")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: S-Video?
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:21:20 GMT


In <7970958@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> Bob Niland writes:

|In rec.video, thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:
|
|> What exactly does S-video do?  I connected my LD player via S-video to my
|> receiver and the same to the TV set; and I do not see any difference.
|> What exactly does spending so much extra in the lines do?
|
|S-video ("Y/C" or "consumer component") is mostly marketing BS.  The
|implications for LD are discussed in standard article LD#92 (copy emailed to
|you).

Sad but true.  With many of the consumer products with S-Video plugs, they 
really don't do squat.  This ranges from LD players as well as SVHS, Hi8
players.  Because there's no real "quality" standards to be met, engineers
can get away with almost anything.

S-Video by itself is just the splitting of the composite signal.  That's
why most of the time, it's no different from regular composite signals.

The real advantage of S-Video is when you can improve on the signals a lot
better than that of composite.  This requires extra circuitry both in
the monitors and the source.  I've seen the results of S-Video with a
computer monitor properly reference to NTSC standards and it looks like
great composite with less artifacts.

Bottom line: If it CLEARLY doesn't look better with S-Video, don't bother.

Rich K.

email>  rkim@opus.calstatela.edu
From: mattn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Matt Nieberger)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:48:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Paramount and changing music
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.video

In rec.video, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) asks:

> 	On the back of the Naked Gun 2 1/2 videotape and Wayne's
> World laserdisc is a message saying that they changed several
> songs from the movie. Does anyone know what they changed and why?

I haven't seen either but was told by a friend that in Wayne's World:
"The first four notes that Wayne plays when testing the Strat. were
 changed from ``Stairway to Heaven'' to misc. notes. Thus completely
 ruining the `No StH` sign joke."

The reason for the change is probably the Co. that produced the
flick lost the rights to the original songs in the movie.

- Matt Nieberger

------------------------------------------------
mattn@FC.HP.COM

The opinions expressed are mine alone and do not
necessarily reflect those of my employer.
------------------------------------------------
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From: JesseWest@cup.portal.com (jesse c newcomb)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.production,rec.photo
Subject: monitors WANTED
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 17:33:10 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Hi -

I'm looking for color composite video monitors to use for video editing. If
you have something like an Amiga monitor (or two identical ones) or any other
such monitors for sale, please let me know. 

Thanks -

- Jesse Newcomb             JesseWest@cup.portal.com
(415) 964-6100 x227
(415) 965-2868 (home)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Paramount and changing music
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:59:09 GMT
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


	On the back of the Naked Gun 2 1/2 videotape and Wayne's
World laserdisc is a message saying that they changed several
songs from the movie. Does anyone know what they changed and why?

	Thanks,
	-- Ethan


purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: The LIttle Mermaid CAV LD For Sale
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:58:08 GMT
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug12.231106.1436@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> bates@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Andrew Bates) writes:
>
>    I had a previous offer which fell through, so I am reposting this...
>
>    FOR SALE:
>
>    Special Limited Edition CAV Laserdisc of The Little Mermaid, still in
>unopened shrinkwrap.  Asking at least $60, but I will take the best of
>all offers in the next week.  This disc is no longer available, so act fast!
>
>	Andy Bates.


	You'll probably do better than this, but in the wild case
you don't, I'll pay $20. Also, BTW, you probably want to post to
rec.arts.disney.
	-- Ethan


purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
From: raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Raible - LSI Design)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Getting the Best Deal from Columbia LD
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:21:33 GMT
Organization: Commodore

In article <1992Aug14.162753.9332@macc.wisc.edu> bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Dana A. Bunner) writes:
>In article <34245@cbmvax.commodore.com>, raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Raible - LSI Design) writes...
>
>>>I perused the catalog and found the new Star Wars LBX trilogy.  However it 
>>>was not classified as a "set" and each had only 2 discs.  So I went for it
>>>and they delivered!  Each of these list for $69.95.  Even if I had been 
>>>able to find them locally for 15% off, I would have paid around $190
>>>including sales tax.  But instead I picked them up for $7.88.
>
>>You've just done exactly what I and a zillion others have done in  making
>>your initial 3 selections. Definitely a good deal if your a fan of these
>>movies. Don't mean to burst your bubble, but keep in mind that Columbia
>>House isn't losing much 
>
>No bubbles burst.  I rejoice more in the amount of money I *saved* than
>what they may have lost.  I suspected there were quite a few people who
>had done the same thing, but wanted to pass it along in case of this
>group readers was contemplating joining the Columbia and might be tempted
>to select the non-LBX version of the Star Wars trilogy which are listed
>on the enrollment flyer. Another nice choice in the catalog is Ben Hur 
>(LBX).  IN any case, before enrolling, try to get a copy of the catalog
>instead of making all of your selections from the magazine/newspaper ad.
>
>To the poster with problems with the SW set, I have seen no evidence of
>color distortion on mine.
>
>Dana

I agree with most of your except the comment about the non-LBX versions of
the Star Wars Trilogy - I have a copy of the catalog as well as a half-dozen
flyers, and I have only seen the LBX versions listed. I believe you will find
if you compare catalog numbers, the enrollment flyer offers the LBX versions.
In any case your advice to get a copy of the catalog before enrolling is
good. Enjoy your disks!
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kaplanr@shearson.com (Roger Kaplan)
Subject: Noise from superimposed text?
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:46:49 GMT


  Poor tuners (usually on VCR's or old TV's) tend to create an annoying 
"buzzing" sound whenever text or graphics are superimposed on the screen.
Examples are scores during sporting events, phone numbers to call during
mail-order ads, and speaker identification during the news.

  What causes this noise?  None of my equipment exhibits this, so I am
asking more out of curiosity than need.

--
Roger Kaplan          | "There are two types of people in this world... 
Lehman Brothers       |  Those that think there are two types of people,
kaplanr@shearson.com  |  and those that know better."
 ..uunet!roses!kaplanr|    -- Tom Robbins, "Still Life with Woodpecker"
From: JOHNN@TIGER.HSC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: RE:  Please advice on Multi System Converters
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:57:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Yasin:  From Pakistan, try buying direct from Japan.  The Instant Replay VCR is 
made by Hitachi, both Panasonic ans Sony make VCR's for the European market that 
may satisfy you.  YOu may have to build/buy an electrical power converter for 
the system.

NTSC camcorders will not record to a standard PAL VCR.  Instant Replay Inc, 2601 
South Bayshore Drive; Miami   Florida  33133   USA, has a Hitachi VCR that they 
say will do it.  Again, contact Hitachi.

As for the satellite downfeeds, the USA dish may very well work but not an 
American feedhorn or reciever, they are NTSC.  Again, the Japanese may have what 
you need.  Also, a British supplier could have the equipment.  Sorry, I do not 
have addresses or names.

Good luck.




From: borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:50:11 GMT
Subject: Re: "HELP" NTSC 3.58 OR 4.76 WHICH ONE DO YOU USE IN USA?
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.video

NTSC has only one standard "location" for the color subcarrier, and that
is 3.58 MHz (3.579545 MHz to be exact) above the video carrier.  Note that
the sync frequencies and audio carrier frequency are derived off of this
subcarrier.


Donald Borowski    WA6OMI    Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division
"Angels are able to fly because they take themselves so lightly."
                                       -G.K. Chesterton
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Camcorder/Tapes Through Airport Scanner OK?
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:27:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Aug12.125753.25175@pdn.paradyne.com>, ambrose@paradyne.com (Steve Ambrose) writes:
> I know this is probably a FAQ, but I have not seen it asked any time
> recently.  I will be going on vacation next week and would like to bring
> my camcorder along.  What should I do about the scanner at the airside
> terminal?  Should I put the camera, but not the tapes, through?  Or should
> I not put anything through?

I do this often with no problem
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: LD vs Broadcast TV
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:39:49 GMT

-deleted discussions of LD vs. Cable & Broadcast-

My local cable system is TCI.  It used to be awful but after they
installed fiber optic cable to local distribution points (coax beyond
that) and got the bugs out, the quality greatly improved.

I have compared live broadcasts from American Movie Classics to
Laser Disc in cases where I suspect the broadcast used the same
source as laser disc, e.g. recent broadcasts of THE THING, KING
KONG and CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON.  These have previously
been reported by me in more detail to the net.

In these particular cases, the laser disc and cable were remarkably
close in overall quality, with a slight edge to the cable signal.
S-VHS tape copies of the broadcast had higher noise and a little
time base error (edge jaggies) compared to LD.  I have found that
S-VHS tape copies of Star Trek TNG had a similar relation to the
recently released laser disc versions.  Star Trek TNG is broadcast
over a local TV station through the cable whereas AMC is a satellite
broadcast picked up by the cable system.

Other cable broadcasts vary.  Some of the movie signals look like
they were sourced from VHS tape.  The ENCORE movie channel looks
like it was a 3rd generation VHS at EP speed!  I have not recently
seen a premium movie channel but a while back, a look at HBO, which
is available direct (filter in the line) with no decoder box, had
a signal comparable to LD (slightly better or slightly worse
depending on source tape).

-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Subject: Re: Getting the Best Deal from Columbia LD
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:09:23 GMT

raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Raible - LSI Design) writes:
: In article <1992Aug14.162753.9332@macc.wisc.edu> bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Da
na A. Bunner) writes:
: >In article <34245@cbmvax.commodore.com>, raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Ra
ible - LSI Design) writes...
: >
: >>>I perused the catalog and found the new Star Wars LBX trilogy.  However it

: >>>was not classified as a "set" and each had only 2 discs.  So I went for it
: >>>and they delivered!  Each of these list for $69.95.  Even if I had been
: >>>able to find them locally for 15% off, I would have paid around $190
: >>>including sales tax.  But instead I picked them up for $7.88.
: >
: >>You've just done exactly what I and a zillion others have done in  making
: >>your initial 3 selections. Definitely a good deal if your a fan of these
: >>movies. Don't mean to burst your bubble, but keep in mind that Columbia
: >>House isn't losing much
: >
: >No bubbles burst.  I rejoice more in the amount of money I *saved* than
: >what they may have lost.  I suspected there were quite a few people who

Ok I will burst everyones bubble (I also just got all 3 star wars thru 
columbia).
20th Century Fox just had all 3 Star Wars films REMASTERED.  The P&S
versions are due out soon (they are listed in the new Sight and Sound
LaserFlash).  I think they are releasing a VHS boxed set too.
I wouldn't at all be suprised that all the Widescreen versions on LV
will be released shortly as well.   AAARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!

George Cifrancis III
gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
Newsgroups: rec.video