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From: lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: right place?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:24:01 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Incorporated, Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tarsal.dsg.ti.com


is this the place you write if your heart has been ripped out, put in a
vise, squeezed dry & chopped into a million pieces?
--
Recycle yourself...be an organ donor  |  visualize whirrled peas....
 :-o		     Internet: lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: dsmither@alfred.carleton.ca (Diane Smithers)
Subject: Re: well past the point of logic 
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:29:48 GMT


I'm not evengoing to bother with replying to all the qidiotic questions.
Clearly, this is hopeless and perhaps whether or not I have a sense of
humor has nothing to do with the annoying paleblue eggplant problem that
refuses to go away.  I would rather defer to sine nomine's post (since
she's obviously been here a long time and I haven't) which gives the
benefit of the doubt (i.e. replies on the level).  I'm new at this
flaming thing and it's wearing me out, especially when the other side
is either so obtuse or ignorant that it's not like a real dialogue.  

Diane S.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: The nature of life?
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:20:10 GMT

jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu poses:


>I guess what I'm driving at is that I'd include that feeling of helplessness
>when you think you've figured life out, you're content with your current
>existence/life pattern/failure rate/car/job/attempts to change/whatever,
>and you appear to be acting under your own volition when *WHAM!* something
>from COMPLETELY out of the blue wriggles in, yells "Boo!" and screws up
>all of your ideas about why things happen the way they do.

THAT is exactly the problem. NO one can figure life out. Accept it as
it is, an uncertainty, and you don't get WHAMmed nearly as much and it
doesn't hurt as bad when you do.

>the feeling of "What the HELL is going on in my life, and how the HELL am
>I supposed to deal with it?" will blow your mind, whether good OR bad OR both.

That is also a problem. Even if you accept that the Universe is full
of trap doors and whoopie cushions it still is hard to deal with it.


>Destiny, lives her life as she wants to live it and doesn't sweat it when
>things cock up, as it's merely a sign that she needs to readjust her current
>goals to one more relevant or realistic.

Oooh much better worded than I could have at this moment. 

>
>nice style, if you can hack it.  requires a LOT of self-confidence, though. 
>that's not my particular stock in trade, so I end up waffling a lot.

It is the only way to live though. Doesn't matter if you waffle now
and then..just keep trying.
From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: How depressing!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 01:33:45 GMT

In article <szikopou.727915002@cunews> szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:

>>WAKE UP--everyone fucking has angst...its what life is about...and the ones
>>who manage to put it behind them are the ones who succeed...and the ones who
>>wallow in it...well. discussing is one thing, but some of you make an identity
>
>People are at different points in their lives.  If you have no need of
>talking about yours--great!  Being condescending and responding with
>flames is certainly no way to get positive responses from a board.
>
>
>>of it..and are even proud of it!  some of you like being angstful...and get
>>defensive if the SACRED ANGST is not view properly.  
>
>
>alt.angst isn't a secret society.  I felt that you were making jokes
>at the expense of other people's pain and I find no humour in that.  I
>don't think any of the "sincere" posters on this board appreciated it
>either.
>
>If you want aggressive discourse...start a board called alt.insults or
>something.
>
>Yours Truly,
>Steven Zikopoulos
>

oh, i like to express angst when i have it!  but i have noticed a trend on 
this group to judge other peoples posting on how genuinely angstful it is.  the
guy was saying our discussion sounded inviting...surely he has some angst, 
right, but he's not going to talk about if his posting is slammed.  I've seen
alot of people get critiqued cuz they didn't have enough angst or the right 
kind of angst.  

sorry if i got overly aggressive...but i had just had my pooh quote knocked by
the letter before yours and i was feeling angstful about this group.

rich.

Pooh quote:



-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
     and big words Bother me."
	-Winnie-the-Pooh
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: Re: I Wish There Was a God
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:36:29 GMT

In <gkennedy.727818906@cunews> gkennedy@superior.carleton.ca (Garry Kennedy) writes:

>In <szikopou.727721721@cunews> szikopou@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:

>>In <C19EKD.9Cv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:

>>>tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) wishes:

>>>>If there were a God, then he would just destroy everything now and get it over
>>>>with instead of dragging out this long and cruel joke--surely the joke would
>>>>have gotten old by now and God can only get so much entertainment value by

>>What if there is no cosmic parental figure as in the Jud.-Christ.
>>tradition.
>>What if we're god? You, me, your neighbour, the carbon in the
>>microchips of our computers....?
>>A tad pantheistic but.....just wanted to provoke some further thought.
>> 

>Steve 
>with uppity talk like that i'm beginning to think that your one of
>them there aetheists. if you don't keep your mind to yourself we'll
>have to get some folks together and learn you right.

>G.

Gary...
thanks for the input but...you don't want to be late for the rally
(remember you've got to pick up that nice white cloak and hood from
the dry cleaners 'for you go)

SZ
From: paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: stuff
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:55:33 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu

In article <C17ytD.9Ao@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:
>paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) sez:
>
>
>>sls is a really smart guy with the posts I read and all, but he doesn't 
>
>p'raps you mean "smart ass"? I HAVE been called that a few times!

:)

>>have the whole picture here.  The hole is actually from DogBowl's fear
>>of death.  He thinks he can somehow cheat death by falling in love.  Well,
>
>Say WHAT? Death is NOTHING!!! LIFE is where your problems lie. I hold
>with my original diagnosis... decide the PAST has nothing to do with
>the present YOU and that "hole" fades.

only DogBowl knows for sure, and even he doesn't know, I think (qv Freud 
and junk).
>
>>he doesn't think it think it, but he thinks it so he can't hear what he's
>>thinking, like that Freud stuff.  Anyway, the hole's just gonna get wider
>>until it finally swallows him and he dies.  So don't even try to make it
>
>I think I know what you think about the thinking, I think. .... what?
>Yah, if I     interpret what you are trying to say "Too much thinking
>is stinking"...more or less. Don't think so damn much, don't fear so
>damn much.
>
>iz that right, paleblue?

I guess.  That's zen stuff, right?
>
>sls

-Hermes
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From: 96rpg@williams.edu (the Straw Dogs)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angstlet
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:04:37 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbird.cc.williams.edu

yeah, hobbes, but on campus you run a strong risk of smacking (splat!)
into the very person sparking said angst. and then you look at each
other for an embarrassed moment, ask what the hell are you doing here
at this time of night? and get some muttered nonsense response like
oh, just walking. and then she passes by again, "talking" to you but
still with nothing said...

you go back home and smack whatever meager posessions the college fao
allows you to keep and rage at the nonexistent gods and goddesses and
your roomate who is now seeing your ex and drop dead depressed.

---
straw dog

... or am i straying a bit?
From: llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: hermes, please pick up the white clue phone...
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:37:32 GMT

on the off chance that the hermes/paleblue creature is for real and
not just a random net idiot:

posters to alt.angst frequently argue about the nature of angst, and
although some points of disagreement seem permanent, most people agree
that angst is what you feel in response to the realization that life
sucks and really doesn't have any great design behind it. people write
here about the echoes of this futility in their lives, about the pain
of fighting this void, about why and how they manage to find (or
create) meaning in their lives anyway.

some of the stuff that's written here is deeply personal; some of it
tends more toward the philosophical/analytical. sometimes people just
get silly, blow off a little tension. but most of the people who hang
out here take the group seriously and respect the intent behind the
posts (even if they flame the posters).

so along comes someone who's either an airhead or a clever imitation
of one, giggling and chirping and spreading little sunshine smiles
around everywhere, with an "ain't i cute?" attitude (complete with
idiotic smileys). it's *damned* annoying -- i mean, if someone tells
you his dog just got smooshed by a car, are you going to grab his
hands and say "oh, goodie! let's go skip through the park and pick
wildflowers! :)" that's verging on grounds for justifiable homicide.
at the very least, it indicates a breathtaking lack of sensitivity. to
persist in this behavior after being *told* it's annoying... sheesh.

so either you're a jerk who thinks you're being cute, or you're an
insensitive clod, or you're terminally clueless. care to enlighten us?

--
sine | deb
or better yet, don't enlighten us. about anything. ever.
From: damon@umbc.edu (Mr. Damon Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: I Wish There Was a God
Date: 25 Jan 1993 02:44:56 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc7.umbc.edu

In article <1993Jan23.010810.8674@netcom.com> despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson) writes:
>You are god.  You can destroy everything now and get it over with, and it will
>only take one bullet.  You have my blessing.
>

Utopia Through Death...hmm.  Does anyone have a pamphlet that describes this
utopia?  My Travel Agent doesn't seem to have one.

-d "I'm God?  Over what?  Insects, and animals that don't defend themselves
    aggessively??  Blow this, I'm turnin' in my Union Card..."
From: nexus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Abstractor)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: The Light of Darkness <a poem>
Date: 24 Jan 1993 03:38:10 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

This is to all "angsters" and friends who missed me. (Not that I think
 anybody did -:)



                       The Light of Darkness


             Darkness feeds on Light, to prime
             in getting Space to live in Time
             - a bitless all-face trace
             as when we stop to breathe at night
             - shapeless droplets of delight,
             quantum strings of bits of grace
             curl tightly and allow the Light
             to penetrate the Darkness
             and generate the dreamless Shades
             and kindly bless our minds with Blindness.

---

the NEXUS
From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: incredibly stupid shy people
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:15:52 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Summary: Deb, two sides to this!

In article <86659@ut-emx.uucp>, llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
> 
> i am so goddamned fucking stupid.
No, you are not.... I am.... but that's another angst
> 
> but if i stop at a 7-11 on the way to work to buy some cough drops and
> run into a guy from work i've been wanting to get to know for a while
> and he waves and says hi, i totally freeze, mumble something
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hey Deb, BIG CLUE HERE!
> 
> maybe i should just run away to guam and join a convent.
No, celibacy sucks.... or doesn't ... or something....

He waved and said Hi.... he's not going to run screaming from the room,
This angst is unfounded.....  
Be deb the non capital letter person.... give it a chance....


Jesus, am I sounding unangsty here?


better watch out, I'll probably get flamed......


Coz









Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (King Mosher)
Subject: Re: I Wish There Was a God
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:56:54 GMT

tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) writes:

>If there were a God, then he would just destroy everything now and get it over
>with instead of dragging out this long and cruel joke--surely the joke would
>have gotten old by now and God can only get so much entertainment value by
>watching pathetic little humans trying to influence and order what goes on
>in a universe that no matter how much we want to believe it, we simply can't
>do shit to change anything and all that has to happen is a nice natural
>disaster and we are putty in nature's hands to be molded into a cute little
>mammal image and then smashed back into a blob; for either he (He) would have
>to be impossibly cruel or just plain stupid.
>-- 

I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors
but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor
and when I die I expect to find him laughing.

Depeche Mode
--

     Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

Chuck Machala-Semiconductor Process and Design Center-Texas Instruments/Dallas
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: momentarily angst-free...
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:37:09 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1993Jan21.044228.22701@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>In article <93020.154206IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> jo writes:
>> the tree-hugging, green party following, grinning democrat
>> dances thru the hallways, waving merrily at scowling
>> red-tied, gray-suited bureaucrats, tossing
>> politically correct
>> recyclableconfetti
>> in their faces
>
>Relax, that was just the wedding party.  Then comes the honeymoon.
>And then everything goes back to the same old thing.
>The only thing that's changed is the face of the beast.
>The insides are still the same.


Heheheh!!...yup...I can confirm that things are the same even while the
happy couple was on their way to the church so to speak.
Spotted in copious quantities this week:
Stretch limos and other buorge-mobiles sporting them damn fine "32nd
Presidential Inauguration ---A festival for the people, an American
Reunion" license plate holders with all sorts of PC and left-leaning
bumperstickers adorning their shiny chrome bumpers. Thats *42nd* folks!!!
Also continuing unabated, the harassment and mass "relocations" of 
DCs indigent(read homeless) population to AnyWhereButOnTheRouteBillWill
Travel. Its a party for *ALL* America, yeah, thats the ticket...

Ya just gotta love it, pure, unadulterated political shenanigans,
DC style!!! :)

---Steve
-- 
---------
sokay@cyclone.mitre.org
		"Your Mind....My Playground" ---me 
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com (Thad Engeling)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Anyone been shopping lately?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:21:18 GMT
Organization: National Instruments
NNTP-Posting-Host: lavaca.natinst.com

In article <105996@netnews.upenn.edu>, dchong@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Dennis Chong) writes:
> 
> 
> This is what has been bugging me lately.  The other day some friends and I
> went dowm to the local mall to do some quick shopping; we figured we
> wanted some stuff.  (In total, there were two guys and two girls.)
> 
> A LARGE majority of the stores are already overstocked with Valentine's
> Day supplies, from large crimson hearts to teddy bears with sappy "I Love
> You" messages on them to chocolates (so you can watch your SO get fat) ad
> nauseum.

Ah, yes. Valentines Day. I hate it.
I guess it would be much more fun if I had an SO.
Then I could participate in all the sickening rituals.
But.
My friend Emily is going to have a party. For singles only.
We are going to get drunk and be depressed together.
And we are going to burn paper hearts.

Two years ago my friend Troy and I threw a
St. Valentines Day Massacre party.
We had people dressed up as gangsters and flappers, fake
bodies strewn about, a coffin, fake tommy guns (we made them
out of wood), blood splatters on the walls, etc. One of the
best parties we've ever thrown.
We were too lazy to do anything like that this year.
Oh well.

hmmm, don't know why I'm posting this.

-Thad

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: dsmither@alfred.carleton.ca (Diane Smithers)
Subject: Re: hair (was Re: qualities in men)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:38:08 GMT

In <22JAN93.21341223.0242@VM1.MCGILL.CA> B7TR@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (B7TR000) writes:

>>In article <Vy9BXB5w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:
>>>RE: female bodily hair
>>
>>The only place I prefer not to see hair on a female is the upper lip.
>>Armpit hair CAN be very sexy.
>>I knew a french girl once who had a 1 hair wide mane all down her spine,
>>absolutely irresistable.
>>


>No wonder, he's British! Europeans are swarthy and smell like SHIT!
>As if the poor Brit slob has  a choice.  If all you saw all day long
>was a bunch of nasty hairy wenches, you'd probably find dirt and funk
>attractive too.  But that doesn't make it some sort of universal
>aesthetic.  Fuckin' EuroMutts!


>I'm not smelly and proud of it!


I hope you're kidding.  If you are, you should try to develop some wit
in your free time because you're not even remotely amusing, and if
you're not, you're a prick. 



Diane S.


- you're probably smellier than you know.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: valb@sco.COM (Val Butler)
Subject: Re: I Wish There Was a God
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:08:12 GMT


In article <C19EKD.9Cv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:
>tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) wishes:
>
>>If there were a God, then he would just destroy everything now and get it over
>>with instead of dragging out this long and cruel joke--surely the joke would
>>have gotten old by now and God can only get so much entertainment value by
>
>

So God is off traveling around in space somewhere with a pal,
right?  And they're trying to decide where they'd like to visit
next, when Gods' pal says, "how about Earth?"  God replies, "Nah.
I went there one time for business, screwed this chick, then promptly
left.  That was 8000 (?) years ago and they've been talking about it
ever since!"
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Me and Winne the Pooh in Reno
Summary: Was shortly "My aren't we grouchy"
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:44:37 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1993Jan22.061712.17942@leland.Stanford.EDU> tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) cheers up the group's best writer and then fatally
signs off with a quote by:
>	-Winnie-the-Pooh

Well I just got back from Reno. Me and Pooh were running nonstop between the
all-night seven-card stud game at Fitzgerald's and Sparks, home of the   
infamous exploitation-club,, the Mustang Ranch. Not that we cared. We were
living high, me and Pooh, spending our money as fast as we made it. We must
have made the run fifteen times, in a Lexus rental car we picked up in Salt
Lake City, where I met Pooh at the airport. The first words out of his mouth
were to the effect that the world was going to hell and all was shit and that
goddamn Tarzan/boy had ruined everything.
	Pooh made enough money selling junk bonds to Tigger to get out, and
he was looking for the high life.
	It was his money we used on the first seven trips to the Ranch. Then
the stud game got serious and we started bankrolling our retirements.

So don't think quoting Pooh will get you anywhere, not here and not in
alt.cute.

Dan
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: tick.. tick.. tick..
Organization: OFSA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:52:50 GMT

steve@estel.uindy.edu says:

>We are signing the final divorce decree tomorrow. 
>tick.. tick.. tick..
>There's not a damn thing in the world to do about it.
>tick.. tick.. tick..
>Did you ever feel like you were watching your life end in slow motion?

Yeah, I felt that way. It doesn't end though...my life opened up after
divorce. It took lots of painfilled months and I made lots of stupid
mistakes but what the hell, I am only human. It's not necessarily an
end. 

Hey, my ex filed for divorce on Valentines Day fer chrissakes! Talk
about angst....

-- 
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      - we are all just prisoners here, of our own device....

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From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Life is shit, verse 4
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:48:28 GMT
Organization: Dark Satanic Mills
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu

Try this on for size, angsters:

My husband just found out he has lung cancer.  His mother just had a breast
and some lymph nodes removed.  I have MS, and so does my mom, so I get to
see just what shape I will be in in 25 or so years.  My dad has lost 95%
of his vision due to some weird inflammatory retinal process.  My best
friend's husband moved out, about 2 years after she bore him a daughter
with Down's syndrome.  My sister's husband discovered his back pain was
due to a spina bifida-like vertebral defect (inoperable, of course).
My stepdaughter's recent Pap smear contains some very odd-looking cells.
(Her grandfather is dying of heart disease.)  I'll skip the usual 
angstogens, y'all can fill in the blanks.

Most of this happened in the last month or two.

If I read one more post about cheering up, my head will truly explode.

Jenny
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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Pooh (was Re: How depressing!
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:52:14 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <szikopou.727928899@cunews> szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:

>well i'm not the one who knocked it.  got a copy of pooh and tao of
>pooh on my bookshelf

But have you got the House at Pooh Corner, The Hums of Pooh, Now We Are Six,
The Pooh Cookbook, and When We Were Very Young       ???

    Actually, Occam wore a beard: philosophers kept borrowing his razor
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: xibo@fido.econ.arizona.edu (Mr. Coates)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the concept
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:47:06 GMT
	<dsmither.727645242@cunews> <1jneq1INN27j@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Organization: Xibological Perimeter



Excuse me, paleblue?  "Theresa"?

Do you have any angst to talk about here, or are you just going to stand
there gawking?

Fucking observers.  feh.


Xibo