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From: forbes@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (scott.forbes)
Subject: Re: WakeUpCall from the Real World!
Keywords: Could Batman Beat the T-1000
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:29:24 GMT

v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>
>     This is quite possibly the stupidest thread I have ever
>     seen on this, or any other, newsgroup, and that's saying
>     something.    

Yes.  It says you're not reading the right newsgroups.  :-)

My recent favorite was "Should we nuke Mars?" on rec.arts.sf.science, in which
a panel of astronomer-wannabes discussed the urgent need to wipe out all life
on the Red Planet ("The last bastion of Communism in our solar system").  This
included several branch threads, such as the discussion on somehow knocking
Phobos out of orbit using either (a) more nuclear weapons or (b) rope.

If that's not enough, try news.groups, where there's a heated debate over
whether "manga" is a type of comic book, or "comic books" are a type of manga.
("Manga" is the Japanese word for "comic.")  Watch for the lengthy explanations
of why USENET assumes you speak English.

Still bored?  The "Computers as heat sources" thread on alt.folklore.computers
describes the perils of putting your workstation directly under the thermostat.
They're also discussing why UNIX spells "user" without an "e".

And we haven't even touched talk.bizarre, alt.flame, alt.stupidity, misc.misc,
alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork, and so on.  You gotta read more netnews.

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From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:52:13 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <kw4th##@rpi.edu>, cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
> asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae) writes:
>
>>>In article <1992Apr9.005014.22428@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes...
>>"Oh goody! My Illidium Pew-36 Explosive Space Modulator"
> 
> Minor Point:  I think it was "Plutonium Pu-238 Explosive Space Modulator".
> "Pu" is the abbreviation for Plutonium, and it has a 238 ion form. (Or whatever
> it's called; I'm a compsci, not a chemeng!)

There were, at various times, Illudium, Uranium, and Plutonium 238 Explosive
Space Modulators in various Martian Loony Toons.

- Jonathan
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: gwebster@student.UVic.CA (Gord Webster)
Subject: Re: The Blood of Heroes
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:24:42 GMT

In article <js8t3w@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>Has anyone besides myself seen "The Blood of Heroes" with Rutger Hauer?
>
>Do any of the above people actually like it?
>
>Does anyone think the sport of "Jugging" would be a really cool replacement
>for Monday Night Football?
>

If I had paid to see this movie, I would have been pissed off at the waste of
money, but since my roommate rented it, it meerly was annoying.

I thought it was cheesy and stupid. It was too bad, because I am a fan of 
Rutger Hauer...


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From: mvp@hsv3.uucp (Mike Van Pelt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Asimov lost
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:37:59 GMT
Organization: Video 7 + G2 = Headland Technology

In article <1992Apr8.174141.15207@cis.umassd.edu> stoodt@cis.umassd.edu (Michael Stoodt) writes:
>In <1992Apr08.084609.196649@zeus.calpoly.edu> jgreen@zeus.calpoly.edu (James T. Green) writes:
>Clarke was interviewed on NPR's All Things Considered on Monday.
>Topics included Asimov's reaction to HAL's homicidal tendencies in
>2001 compared to the Laws of Robotics (I believe it was "stomping out
>of the theater")...

I remember reading Asimov's own description of his reaction to Hal's
murder spree in 2001:  Stomped out of the theater and said angrily
"They Violated The First Law!"

The person he was with said "Well, why don't you strike them down
with lightning, Isaac?"  At that point he laughed, regained his
sense of perspective, and was able to enjoy the rest of the movie.

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From: WADDELL@knox.BITNET ("Glenn Waddell Jr.")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Star Wars Series
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:18:00 GMT


  In a recent posting by Ernie Oporto, he leaves the idea that the Timothy
Zahn series is the next three books in the Star Wars Saga.  This is not the
case.  The Zahn books are merely taking characters that Lucas established and
telling a story.  Of course, anything with the Star Wars characters must have
Lucas' approval, but the Zahn books are basically the same as the three
Han Solo books, the three Lando Calrisian books, or the one Luke Skywalker
book.  Novels based upon the universe and characters created by George Lucas,
nothing more can be made out of the Zahn books.

  (I am not saying that any of the books mentioned above are good or bad, only
that it is important to differentiate between the 'real' Star Wars series, and
the usage of Lucas' characters to tell a Star Wars story.)

Glenn Waddell Jr.
(waddell@knox.bitnet)
From: stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: These X Vs. X Comparsions
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:20:21 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ


        You know, I see all these Batman Vs. T-1000, etc, messages. My big 
question is WHICH Batman?

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens Uncut Question
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:19:52 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <92101.143746TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>, Todd Alan Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...

} I recently saw the uncut version of Aliens and noticed that at the end
} it didn't show the egg opening that I heard about. Is it true that an
} egg did that at the end or did I hear wrong?

You weren't...I say you weren't paying atTENsion, son.

No version of the film *shows* an egg opening. All versions (one I taped
from Cable, one I rented on videotape, the pan-&-scan edition on laserdisc
that I owned, and the extended version on disc) have the *sound* of it on
the soundtrack. It's at the very, *very* end of the end -- just after the
last credit scrolls off the top of the screen. It's faint, so you have to
turn the volume way up.

Actually, though, after reading some of the articles here, I listened to
my copy (of the extended version), and I have to agree that it's *not*
an egg opening, but a facehugger scurrying across the floor. The sound
definitely travels from the left channel to the right, suggesting movement.

-- 

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	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


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From: v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Summary: ray gun
Keywords: Buford, pass me that extra straightjacket
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:34:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr9.203518.19314@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, sprocket@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (dean.s.jones) writes...
>In article <kw4th##@rpi.edu>, cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>> In article <19944@castle.ed.ac.uk> asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae) writes:
>> >
>> >>In article <1992Apr9.005014.22428@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes...
>> >"Oh goody! My Illidium Pew-36 Explosive Space Modulator"
>> 
>> Minor Point:  I think it was "Plutonium Pu-238 Explosive Space Modulator".
>> "Pu" is the abbreviation for Plutonium, and it has a 238 ion form. (Or whatever
> 
>NOOOOOOOO!!!!  It's  Uranium Pu-38 Explosive Space Modulator
> 
>						Dean Jones
>						AT&T Bell Labs
>						dean@hos1cad.att.com
I hate to say it but Dean is correct.

Sorry Dean.

Anthos, that annoying back itch you can't reach when no one is around.
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From: WFL4468@tntech.BITNET (PALE BLUE SCOTTISH PERSON)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror 2: Revenge of the Old Queen
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:02:00 GMT

On "Short Attention Span Theatre" (Comedy Central) a month or two ago, they
mentioned that Revenge of the Old Queen had gone into production.  They seemed
to indicate that it was being produced by the same people (i.e. Lou
Adler/Michael White), but I've heard conflicting rumors since then.  As I
understand, "Revenge..." has been performed as a musical in England.  Anyone
know?

And some other nagging questions while we're on the subject...
1) What role did O'Brien play in "Flash Gordon"?
2) Has anyone actually seen the books _Shock-Treatment_ or
_They_Came_From_Denton_High_?  The former was mentioned in the credits to the
movie, while the latter was referenced as an early title of "The Rocky Horror
Show" (i.e. "the book _They_Came... eventually became "The Rocky Horror Show").
3) Is Patricia Quinn in the latest installment?  She seemed happy enough with
the role, and she seemed to get along famously with O'Brien in "Rocky Horror"
and "Shock Treatment".  I'm assuming Magenta won't be back, since Riff Raff
makes reference to his "late sister" in the Rocky Horror CD Boxed Set.
4) Anyone know why they changed it from "Denton Catholic Church" to "Denton
Episcopal Church"?

It's sad that I care....

Bill Langston
wfl4468@tntech

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles)
Subject: Re: The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Organization: Auto-trol
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:27:04 GMT

>4.  Will Brad and Janet ever, perhaps secretly, do the Time Warp again?

And the answer is .. Probably!

Tim Curry was recently interviewed about the Show and said that a sequel was in
the works.  He will *not* return as Frank, tho.  No word on Rocky yet.

Matt

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From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Stephen Daniel Tilson)
Subject: Re: Star Wars canon stuff. Stop it please
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 06:32:14 GMT

ss@wpi.WPI.EDU  writes:
> 
> Please lets not all turn this into a canon war. I was sick of
> it all on the Star Trek boards, and I'm already getting tired 
> of it here. If the Star Wars group gets created on the net, and
> all it turns into is a canon war, we're defeating the purpose 
> of the groups creation and most people won't bother with it. 
> Anything that wasen't in the movies is all speculation any 
> ways, so lets just leave it at that...
> 
> -- 
>                         Scott Streeter
>                         ss@wpi.wpi.edu

I agree. Canon wars should be avoided. However, I'm not so sure
that just saying "if it's in the movies it's canon, otherwise
it's bull****" is such a great idea either. Star Wars is a big
subject and there's plenty of room for all opinions--and even
George Lucas isn't infallible. So if you think it's valid,
fine--just don't try to shove it down MY throat as somehow
being "authoritative" or "canon." Short version: I reject the
*idea* of canon.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Lucas & $$$$
From: arang@desire.wright.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:23:09 EST
 <1992Mar27.204822.24108@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> <3289@screamer.csee.usf.edu>
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <3289@screamer.csee.usf.edu>, clark@racquet.csee.usf.edu (Matthew Clark) writes:
> In article <1992Mar27.204822.24108@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>,
> mulac@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
> |> >> jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (CHARLES JORDAN) writes> 
> 	Were ILM at all involved in the morphing technique used in T2?
> 
The morphing technique used in T2 was first developed by ILM for use in Willow.

If you caught the academy awards, when the winners for visual effects made
their speech they thanked ILM-mainly because they did the morphing.  They also
did the morphing for Michael Jackson's video.

Again on the Oscars,  Skywalker North was mentioned twice in regards to the
sound effects editing oscars.

-Amy Rang
Wright State University
From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: WakeUpCall from the Real World!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
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Keywords: Could Batman Beat the T-1000
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 02:22:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.012233.4970@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

| 
|      This is quite possibly the stupidest thread I have ever
|      seen on this, or any other, newsgroup, and that's saying
|      something.    
| 
| 
|           ^Hot Damn, That Pie Was Good!^
|                      Common Phrases Heard at
|                      RR Diner #32.
| 
|           ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu^

This is quite possibly the stupidest post I have ever
seen on this, or any other, newsgroup and that's saying
something.

		[though I have no idea what]

	^That Show's Dead!^
		Common Phrases Heard on
		The Street #1.

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From: stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Stupid Threads
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:11:37 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

"They have a fight, Triangle wins... Triangle Man"
 
        Yeah, I agree with Scott.. It really bites with all this crap. Why 
not start your own mailing list for the "X Vs. X" Messages?

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Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 08:27:03 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars Series

In article <4FCA34890000CADB@knox.bitnet>, WADDELL@knox.BITNET ("Glenn Waddell
Jr.") says:
>
>  In a recent posting by Ernie Oporto, he leaves the idea that the Timothy
>Zahn series is the next three books in the Star Wars Saga.  This is not the

WHAT?!??!!?!?!
No I didn't!  I've held the idea all along that the three books are merely
between the trilogies as is the comic book series and the young readers'
series (coming in June:  The Glove of Darth Vader and Lost City of the Jedi).
I certainly know that the trilogy is the Adventures of ben Kenobi, the
Adventures of Luke Skywalker and some other unnamed trilogy about the
second republic....read my post again.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: rnoguchi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ryan A. Noguchi)
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:12:30 GMT

In article <731tkcr@rpi.edu> plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki) writes:
>In article <721t-nq@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>>In article <VZJTiB2w164w@miracle.com> jess%miracle@merk.com (Shi'nayne) writes:
>>>It is also mentioned in the first movie, I believe, that the time travel
>>>machine was destroyed after Reese came through it.  So another one must
>>>have been built that would allow non-organic material through it???
>>
>>Yeah, I remember that, but didn't we find out that in T2, the human rebels
>>weren't able to destroy it, and the computer sent T1000 through, and then
>>the humans got it back, and sent the reporgrammed T800 (Arnie) thru?
>
>How about this.  The T-1000 is sent first to kill John Conner, being the
>prototype and the most powerful and killing John would be the most logical
>step to stop the future.  The T-800 (from the first movie) is then sent
>to insure that Skynet is built. (If you take a critical looked at the first 
>movie, all that happened was the insurance that Skynet would be built from
>the remains of the first Arninator).  The humans get there, John knows that
>the T-1000 is sent first and sends his reprogrammed Arninator to stop that
>one.  Then he send his fathere Reece to help Sarah and fight the Skynet
>Arninator.  Then the time machine is destroyed.

The main problems I have with this theory is that Reese didn't tell Sarah
about the other terminator (I know it wasn't known when Terminator was
made, but...) and that it would make more sense to send the T-1000 to
kill Sarah as that would have been the easier and more fundamental
task.  The T800 could have just turned itself in to the nearest
Cyberdyne facility to ensure Skynet's construction...once the T-1000 had
killed Sarah.

According to the novelization (and this seems most reasonable to me),
the first Terminator was sent to 1984, then the T-1000 was sent through
as a last minute gamble since there was nothing to lose at that point (the
rebels had penetrated the complex and were about to pull the plug). 
Then Reese was sent through, with the knowledge that the time machine
would be destroyed after his passage.  John, however, knowing that the
T-1000 would be sent (personal experience) and had been sent (from sensor 
readings) reprogrammed the T-800 and sent it through before they torched
the complex.  

>As far as why the T-1000 can get thru the time machine, most likely he
>was covered in a skin to travel.

Makes sense to me...it's all pseudo science anyway.... :-,
 
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From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Buckaroo Banzai and the Watermelon
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:39:51 GMT
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>>>>> On 10 Apr 92 23:27:47 GMT, cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) said:

>>> airplane, and eaten at their leisure.  That was why the watermelon was
>>> in the press - to see if it would burst.  (No explanation as to just
>>> how the damn thing was supposed to be CUT......)

>the concept was that the watermellon was engineered to withstand fantastic
>pressures but still be vulnerable to shearing stress. in other words, once
>it was safely on the ground the locals could come up and cut it with
>whatever was handy.

cleggp> So basically it was an experiment in non-Newtonian materials; it
cleggp> would get tough as nails when involved in a sudden impact, but
cleggp> would easily allow a slow impact to damage it (in this case, a
cleggp> knife cutting the rine).

Non-Newtonian, my left foot. There are plenty of materials that can resist
being damaged by impact but can be sliced apart very easilly. Take rubber
ball, throw it against a wall and watch it bounce, cut it with a knife and
watch it get sliced in two. It's not a matter of a sudden impact versus a
slow one, but a dispersed area of impact versus a very concentrated one.

They were just trying to get a watermellon that would bounce like a
basketball if you air-dropped it, but could be sliced open with a
reasonably sharp implement.

--Rat
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