HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dkm@col.hp.com (Dave K. Martin)
Subject: Re: Super Denise
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:21:10 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Ok, I'll admit that I got my Super Denise chip from Grapevine (I can hear the 
flamethrowers firing up already :).  Actually, I ordered the Super Denise, two 
CIA chips and an 68882 on the same order.  Everything arrived about 12 days 
later, correctly packed in anti-static tubes or foam.  The Super Denise chip 
had *NO* markings on it at all.  There was a little paper slip that said they 
(Grapevine) had received the chips from Commodore without the markings.  After 
installing the new Denise, I ran through all of the new display modes, they all
worked fine after I tweaked the fine tuning on my 2320 display enhancer.  
Grapevine included a test disk with the Super Denise that was helpful in 
setting the fine tuning.  It displays several high-res interlaced and ham 
pictures.  The tests do not use any of the new display resolutions that the 
Super Denise provides however.

I've used all of the chips that I got from Grapevine, they all have worked fine
so far (since August for the Super Denise and the 68882).  I probably would 
have ordered from someone else except that Grapevine was selling 25 mhz 68882's
for $49!  When I placed my order (by telephone), I tried asking about some 
memory chips but the lady taking the order said that if it didn't have a 
catalog number, she had no way to look up the information.  I have a couple of
Grapvine's catalogs but they were out of date when I placed my order from 
their ad in Amiga World.

The unmarked Denise chip bothers me a little, I wonder if Grapevine managed to 
get a batch of rejected chips from Commodore or if they are legitimate and 
there was an honest goof where they didn't get labeled.

These are my experiences only!  Yours will vary!  I seem to be one of the lucky 
few who have had a positive experience ordering from Grapevine.

Dave Martin - dkm@col.hp.com
From: gbr@rubicon.muug.mb.ca (Gerald Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 68040 fp library
Distribution: na
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:23:46 CDT
Organization: Rubicon BBS UUCP Test Site

In article <1992Nov23.105419.770@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> victorng@csri.toronto.edu (Victor Ng-Thow-Hing) writes:
>Greetings netters,
>
>I was wondering that if I have a Fusion 40 68040 accelerator and wish to use
>floating point software (example, FP versions of commercial and PD stuff), do
>I need a special floating point run-time library .library file?  Does the 
>68040.library file  fit this need?
>

I have a Fusion Forty, and am really pleased with it (especially under 2.0).
I run many FP version of software with no hassle.  The only problem I have
found is with software that trys to detect the Math Unit.  They will fail!
For example, the toaster install software gave me the NoFP version of
LightWave.  It was a simple matter to put the FP version in place tho!


--
Gerald Brandt    	                    email: gbr@rubicon.muug.mb.ca
Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA            BBS  : 1-204-669-1666

"To crush your enemies, and to see them driven before you.  And to hear 
the lamentations of their women!"
                                      Conan
From: stuart@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Stuart R. Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 68030 -> 68020 Adapter Socket?
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:37:18 GMT
Reply-To: anm@mcshh.Hanse.DE
Organization: TheNews

In article <37117@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George
Robbins) writes:
>In article <anm.721939668@mcshh.hanse.de> anm@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Andreas Mueller)
writes:
>> Is it possible to use a 68030 in a 68020 socket.
>> Do I need some kind of adapter socket?
>
>The pinout is different, so you can't plug it into the same
>socket.  Electrically, the '030 signals are a superset of
>the '020 signals, so you can wire them up nearly 1 for 1,
>with the addition of pull-up resistors on a few of the
>'030 signals that aren't present on the '020.
>
>I don't know of any commercial adapters that do this, though
>there might be something available somewhere.

 Actually, if you look in the 68030 Hardware Refence manual (Availble from
Prentice Hall) if give you a socket diagram form sticking a 68030 in 68020. As
I recall there were about 20-30 bux worth of stuff to add.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: schilli@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Burkhard Schillinger)
Subject: Re: A1000 Low-Pass Hack.... Help!
Keywords: A1000
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:56:57 GMT

lee@rose.brandeis.edu (charles lee) writes:

>Would any person out there who has hacked the low-pass filter on their
>A1000 post on how they did it? I'd like to kill that filter as it makes
>the ol' A1000 rather muffled...

>Thanks for any replies....

> /X\\|//X\
>// \o.O/ \\
>    \_/     -"Warg! I'm a lemming!" (jumps off cliff)

This hack was described in "Amazing Computing" about two years ago. 
If you can't find it in your local library or so, I can try to dig it up.
Works quite nice, fully 500-compatible!
If you need more info, please drop me apersonal mail, as I do not read
this group regularly.
-Burkhard.
.
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 14.xx & 7.xx Mhz, why?
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:15:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
> stigo@ifi.uio.no (Stig Arne Olsen) writes:
>>
>>Can some guru :-) here tell me why C= are clocking the processors below what
>>they were made for? They do not seem to do it with the faster processors,
>>but why are the Mc68000 just 7 and Mc68020 in the A1200 14Mhz? Has it something
>>to do with dma-cycle timing?
>
> It has everything to do with Chip RAM timing.  Chip RAM lives on the synchronous
> Chip bus, which is based on a 7.09-7.16MHz clock (actually, two of them).  It's
> much simpler to interface a processor to this bus if you make its bus clock the
> same clock as used for the Chip bus.  There are a number of problems that you

        I think Stig was asking *why* those clock speeds were chosen in
the first place. As David said, the speed of CHIP ram is the key. The speed
is based on the PAL and NTSC video frequencies (PAL = 7.09 Mhz, NTSC =
7.14 (?) Mhz). The origional Amiga designers wanted a system that could
easily combine it's video signal with standard video broadcast signals
(PAL & NTSC), so they decided to set the master clock speed of the Amiga
to be the same as the video frequency used in that country (PAL Amigas
are slightly slower than NTSC Amigas). The reason why CHIP ram is the
key is because that's where the video data is displayed from, so it
was set to synchronize with the PAL or NTSC video broadcast frequency.

        When accelerating an Amiga you have 2 choices. Either use an
exact multiple of the master clock speed (eg 14.x Mhz) or have your
CPU run on it's own seperate clock (any speed you like). By running
the CPU on it's own clock, you can make better use of that chip's top
limit, but your accelerator has to be able to access CHIP ram at
7.x Mhz, so the accelerator design needs to be more complicated to
guarantee that CHIP ram access is performed at the correct speed.
By using an exact multiple of 7.x Mhz, you don't need the extra
hardware to make sure the timing is correct, but you don't get the
best possible speed from the CPU chip.

           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 and LD vs HD drives
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:23:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov12.161024.3885@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
  <1992Nov12.225320.26998@hubcap.clemson.edu>
  <1992Nov13.200527.5746@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>

>Quoth charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV):
>
>]> >Gee, I can think of several tacks to take with such a customer:
>]> >    "Oh, if high density drives are all you're interested in, let's cut th
e
>]> >     computer our of the equation altogether!  I can sell you SEVERAL HD
>]> >     drives for that price!"
>]> >    "Are you here to buy a computer or a disk drive?"
>]>
>]> I didn't see a smiley anywhere, so I ask:  ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?!!?!?!
>]>
>]> You won't sell any computers talking like that; insulting the customer gets
>you
>]> nothing except fewer customers ...
>]>
>]> (Gee I hope that was sarcasm and I missed it ... :) )
>]>
>]> (I *really* hope that was sarcasm and I missed it ... :) :) )
>
>Semi serious, semi sarcastic...
>
>Listen, if a dealer lets himself get trapped into the situation described,

"Get's trapped?"  Are you real?  That can be a very simple question, not
coming from someone looking to "undermind the dealer."

>
>--
>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@*****************************************************
*
>Jeff Grimmett [SuperBitMap BBS]          * fido!1:202/1401.0 [619-460-7290]
>jeff_grimmett@f1401.n202.z1.fidonet.org  * jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
>  My employer doesn't allow me to have opinions -- so don't tell 'em I do!
>******************************************************************************
*
>



-Joel
-------
   ========================================================================
  / Joel E. Swan....Pres./...Media Specialties, Ltd., Oak Forest, IL.USA  /
 / & Senior Producer..../...Moody Broadcasting Network, Chicago, IL. USA /
/ Portal ID: joeles..../...joeles@cup.portal.com                        /
========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: Barry_Fence@mindlink.bc.ca (Barry Fence)
Subject: Amy monitor on IBM
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:07:40 GMT

I've seen a circuit which shows how to connect a standard VGA monitor to the
Amiga. Is there such a circuit to connect a 1080 monitor to an IBM clone
portable? Has anyone tried either?

Barry Fence


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:20:34 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <1dhq6kINNh64@ub.d.umn.edu> rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes:
>#include <polliticalBS.h>
>>
>>Great!  Just what I want to read in c.s.a.a.  Political debates!  Isn't there a
>>newsgroup ('alt.politics.bitch.about.clinton' :) you can go to?  This is an
>>INTERNATIONAL AMIGA newsgroup, and unless Clinton is gonna change the Amiga in
>>some way, I don't want to hear about him!
>>
>>
>>-Eyvind
>
>I hear the the big C is releasing a new "exec" chipset based on the new
>"Bill" chip. :-)

Yeah.  Some special design considerations for this chip...

o Couldn't be mounted too close to the fan airflow, as it won't run
unless it can avoid the draft.

o The silicon wafers only exhibited the desired "Clinton" processing
behavior when doped with a higher-than normal amount of impurity.

o Was originally to be used in "bus" arbitration, but kept granting
ownership to multiple devices at the same time.

o The designers gave up on trying to come up with a "truth" table for the
internal logic.  (Had to settle on an "untruth" table).

o Internal PROM(ises) are ERASABLE!  Just put in any program you like, which
of course, depends on whose listening.


And a special safety warning sticker accompanies each chip...

   "In the event this chip self-destructs and releases signs of smoke...

			 DON'T INHALE!!!"
From: slhmz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: HELP:  A3000 & 1Mx4 SC-ZIPS (70ns) ?
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:06:03 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


Right now, I have an Amiga 3000 16MHz with 40 MB hardrive
and 1 Meg FAST RAM and 1 Meg CHIP RAM.  I want to add more
RAM to my system because 2 Megs just isn't enough.

Anyways, I have heard that this is what I need to do:

 1) Take the 1 Meg FAST RAM and put it in the empty CHIP RAM
    sockets so I have 2 Megs of CHIP RAM


 2) Get 4 Megs of STATIC COLUMN ZIPS 70ns (1Mx4) and put them into
    the FAST RAM sockets.

    Now, in the "Intoducing the Amiga 3000" book I got, it says
    that FAST MEM has 4 banks each consisting of 8 sockets.  If
    using 1Mx4 RAM chips, then each bank gives you 4 megabytes.

    Does this mean that I only nead to purchase 8 1Mx4 static
    column zips 70ns?  Memory World sells these for $15.50

    Does this mean that I only nead to spend $124.00 for 4 megs?
    That seems pretty cheap.


 3) Change jumper J852 from pins 2-3 to pins 1-2


Is that really it?  Is it really only $124.00 for 4 additional megs?
Thanks!

--
Faith Gibson
slhmz@cc.usu.edu

" Just a lowley Cowgirl lost in the sea of Amiganess "
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Serial Port problems-Answer!
From: MWEAVER@VITRO.COM (Mike Weaver)
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:49:14 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: terrwm

Thanks to all who E-Mailed with suggestions/help/etc...  It turned out to be my
power supply (the -12 Vdc went to la-la-land).  Needless to say, the RS-232
de-coupling (1488/1489 chips) couldn't do thier jobs.  New supply is ordered.

Thanks again!


-- 
          ______________________________________________________________________
         /  Michael C. Weaver	        Modern music for Modern times!
        /    _____                      Internet: weaver@vitro.com
__     /   \/itro Corporation	        Voice:    (301) 231-3234
  \   /    M/S 4-3409                   ________________________________________
   \ /     14000 Georgia Ave.           | "Hey Andy, are you goofin' on Elvis?"|
    V      Silver Spring, MD 20906-2972 | REM - Automatic for the People       |
                                        ----------------------------------------
          <<<<<<<Since I have no views, they're nobody elses!>>>>>>>
                       <<<<<<Viewless & Clueless>>>>>>>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: James_Coulter@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (James Coulter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A2500/20 AIBB
Distribution: world
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:09:17 PST
Organization: Commodore Computer Club / PaNorAmA

Haven't seen anybody post AIBB results for the A2500/20, so here is an
A2500/20 module for AIBB.  Dhrystone results were 4451.  Just a note when
the system was tested: 1> CPUblit was running at the time.  2> ROM was
mapped to 32-bit RAM.

begin 777 A2500-20.AIBBmodule
MH;M'!4$R-3 P+S(P &EN90       @ !  $  V5X<&%N<VEO;B!M96UO<GD X
M                                (    &    !        @/X   &5XX
M<&%N<VEO;B!M96UO<GD                                 8    (  X
M   @       0/R.>#6-H:7 @;65M;W)Y                            X
M              0  !     /_ #_]@ 0/R#+'                       X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                                          !OX
M_      # "    !     ( !  @)0"N=   H Z0    $   #I  $" @, T0  X
M!@!@    (    &  ( (""@KF   (                                X
M                                                            X
M                                                            X
M                                  !!91(^066T;0    $ +)?H@/%UX
M0(   @( +%T L;P&N2 "08  ( H( " B   X9TP +@   "4 !  0/#P "NR%X
M "4 A  @!Z  )0$^ "!\'  E ", (#<X "4 +  @UP@"K!HP 0$!%72H 0$ X
M !%< 0$!#YL[ 0$ :@QN 0$!G4)$ 0$ L</( 0$ 9T!$ 0$"L*X6 0$ U!C=X
M 0$  !%C 0$!#]Q3 0$ 2L2= 0$ D\%^ 0$ L</: 0$ 9T!$ 0$.-?,. 0$!X
ML%4: 0$ H/KF 0$6;^J\ 0$  1T@ 0$  3@J 0$)XJJ9 0$ Y^\# 0$.-C0[X
M 0$!L%4% 0$ FZ/" 0$6:A%/ 0$  1SK 0$  3A5 0$)XFH( 0$ YVS+ 0$ X
M6TQB 0$ :(7, 0$ D3:# 0$#FR@4 0$ #-O( 0$ #O6H 0$ @*V4 0$ LXN9X
M 0$ 6TQB 0$ :,;E 0$ BQO\ 0$#FVE# 0$ #-O) 0$ #O6H 0$ @&RO 0$ X
ML\R> 0$                                                     X
M                                                            X
M                $FP* 0$                                     X
F                                                    X
 X
end

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

/------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| James D. Coulter              FIDO    :1:153/911                       |
| {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}          //  USEnet  :james_coulter@panam.wimsey.bc.ca|
|"Punishment is a crime." \X/                                            |
\------------------------------------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: fredo@diku.dk (Frederik Uldall Br|ns)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 486 Bridge Board???????
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:24:57 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hello out there!!!

Could anyone please tell where I could get 486 Bridge Board for the
Amiga 2000?  

	Reply to fredo@ask.diku.dk.  (Frederik Brons)

        T H A N K  Y O U !!!!


P.S.  You will be in my buffer for the rest of my life...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: djp33563@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David J. Pugliese)
Subject: Adding a 1.76MB floppy to an A2000
Summary: Can it be done easily?  What do I need?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:00:34 GMT
Keywords: 1.76MB,floppy,help

	As my subject says, how difficult is it (if it is, in fact,
possible) to add one of those spiffy new HD floppies to an A2000?
Does the 2.04 ROM support them?  What drivers would I need?
	Also, what about the drive itself?  Is it just a garden-variety
(that is, PC-style) high density 3.5" drive that one can get from any
number of sources, or does Commodore have some extra firmware (or
what have have you) in their HD drive?
	Any help in is greatly appreciated...

Dave Pugliese, Margaritaville Embassador Extraordinary to Illinois
d-pugliese@uiuc.edu

"You expect me to talk?" -James Bond
"No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!" -Goldfinger


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.tech,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: giglio@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov (Louis Giglio)
Subject: Re: X-Windows and Fortran for the Amiga
Reply-To: giglio@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov (Louis Giglio)
Organization: NASA/GSFC
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:36:54 GMT


Gfx Base
1881 Ellwell Drive
Milpitas, CA 95035
(408) 262-1469

They have at least three products related to X-Windows: X11 Programmer's System
for the Amiga, Motif Programmer's Toolkit for the Amiga, and XView Programmer's
Toolkit for Amiga.

This info is from "AC's Guide to the Commodore Amiga", summer 1992 edition.


--------------------
Louis Giglio
Severe Storms Branch
NASA/GSFC
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 1200 with '040 ?
Keywords: 1200
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov16.172702.3226@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> ajs@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Satterthwaite) writes:
> 
> OK, before anyone flames this for sounding daft, I don't know much about
> chip connections and hardware generally but I was wondering wether it would
> be possible to plug a 68040 into an A1200. I realise it may need a host board
> or something but surely it wouldn't be that difficult for GVP or someone
> to come up with something, and as it wouldn't need extra 32 bit memory (as
> the A1200 has got it already) it should be fairly cheap compared to A500/2000
> '040 accelerators.

It would be electrically possible to make an '040 board to plug into the
A1200 expansion slot, however the power dissapation of the '040 is so
high that you typically need a heat sink and fan to keep the temperatures
under control.  There is no provision for such in the A1200, so unless
the board vendor wants to make a fan sub-base that the A1200 sits on,
I wouldn't be too optimistic about *reliable* '040 cards.

Something like a 25/33MHz '030 w/fast RAM probably makes more sense as a
performance boost at a reasonable price...

-- 
George Robbins - now working for,     work:   to be avoided at all costs...
but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
From: tcarter@53iss4.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Tom Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Floppy Drives
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:05:14 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA

I expect that this may be a FAQ, but will stsndard PC low density floppies
work in an Amiga? What problems are there in this "hypothetical" application? 
E-mail please....Thanx!

--
Tom Carter
From: 5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Complete AMIGA SYS for SALE (EXCELLENT)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:21:55 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,misc.forsale.computers
X-From: 5marte_f@spcvxb.spc.edu
X-Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
X-Date: 16 Nov 92 19:18:17 EST
X-Organization: St. Peter's College, US

Hurry Hurry, Step right up.....


	Amiga 2000 for sale. Here's the specs:

		A2000 cpu w/ 1.3 + 2.0 Roms
		1080  monitor
		3.5 megs (1meg Agnus)
		2 internal Drives
		KyBd.
		Mouse
		Joysticks
		Mousemaster mouse/joystick switcher
		Printer
		Tons of PD disks
		Very Complete set of Manuals.

	The system is very clean. I love it - I'm only parting because of 
upgrade. Very good at $750. A complete system!!! Write for more info, if you're 
interested, or even if you just have a comment.

	5marte_f@spcvxa.spc.edu
	Felix Marte

		
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: meixner@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Matthias Meixner)
Subject: Re: Amiga 5000
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:23:33 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <1992Nov17.094121.90614@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
> In article <gsanders.02nl@ftord.UUCP>, gsanders@ftord.UUCP (Garnett Sanders) writes:
> > I know the Amiga 4000 just came out afew weeks ago! But before it did, there
> > was talk about the Amiga 5000. Is there anyone out there that has some info on
> > it????? (something about 64 bit ram???)
> 
>         Well, 64 bit ram is only worthwhile if you have a 64 bit CPU. With
> this in mind, the options are, a 64 bit 680x0 (not available yet) or a new
> CPU (RISC perhaps, eg MIPS R4000). Since C= has only just come out with
> full 32 bit systems, it's probably a bit soon to start talking about a 64
> bit machine (it would need a new 64 bit Zorro bus amongst other things).
> 

I remeber that there was/is a transputerchip from Inmos that is internally only
32 bit, but has a 64 bit databus /64 bit ram for speeding up the ram access.
Therefore 64 bit ram is also useful for faster ram-access.

>            Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
>                     DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
>              Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.

- Matthias
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware