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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:59:28 LCL
From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      Diag 8c and character sets.

 RE: Diag 8c and character sets.

 On this XA 2.1 system diag 8C does what the book says; it returns
 the device query response at vary on time, not the current one.

 If you're after information about loaded character sets, then you
 must do an explicit query device; all you can use the diag8c info
 for is to know that you can do a query device :-)

 And diag 8c (though the documentation might lead you to think
 otherwise) supports only the virtual machine console.

 Also note that the command codes in table 3-1 of ga-23-0059-6 (3270
 data stream reference) are remote operation codes.  When using fullscr,
 the first byte is an encoding of these operation codes; the next byte
 is the WCC or the first byte of the length of the first structured
 field.

   Operations  Control byte   Local 3270 operation code
   w    f1       00             01
   ew   f5       80             05
   ewa  7e       c0             0d
   rb   f2       02             02  (only for solicited read)
   rm   f6       06             06  do.
   rma  6e       n/a            n/a
   eau  6f       n/a            0f  use ds3270 structured field.
   wsf  f3       20             11

 I hope this clears the confusion.  Refer to RPQRY EXEC and REXX for a
 sample device query being processed.

     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:43:45 EST
From:         MacPhil <IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Piping into an Xedit file.
              22 Jul 1992 11:38:35 MEZ from <RZOTTO%DKNKURZ1.Bit
              Net@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:38:35 MEZ Otto Stolz said:
>ask again in PIPES-L, or XEDIT-L, whichever seems more appropriate.

?: How does PIPES-L differ from CMSPIP-L ?

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:32:42 EDT
From:         "Stefanie A. Cimetta" <STEFC@SJUVM.BITNET>

   Hi!  I am new to this list and am not sure if this problem has been
addressed before.  I just installed CMS PIPELINES and LEXX on my system.
The programs run fine except for when I use them with the Shared Segment.
I am running VM/IS Rel 6.  I have enclosed a copy of them commands for the
shared segment installation and the error I have when I try to run a program.
I am not sure what is causing this not to work.  I used the steps in the
installation manual.  Thanks in advance for any clue to this puzzle!!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:12:23
pipginvt
Ready; T=0.16/0.25 11:14:19
pipgtxt %noname
Ready; T=3.34/3.64 11:14:49
def stor 16m
STORAGE = 16384K
DMKDSP450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW '00020000 00000000'
IPL CMS
VM/IS 6 CMS
DASD 310 LINKED R/O; R/W BY MAINT; R/O BY 047 USERS
DMSACC724I 192 replaces A (191)
DMSACP726I 192 D released
DMSACP723I C (193) R/O
Ready; T=0.39/0.73 11:16:22
pipldseg
SYSTEM SAVED
Ready; T=0.92/1.04 11:16:32
cp def stor 1m
STORAGE = 01024K
DMKDSP450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW '00020000 00000000'
IPL CMS
VM/IS 6 CMS
Ready; T=0.38/0.70 11:17:12
nucxdrop pipmod
DMSNXD616W PIPMOD does not exist
Ready(00028); T=0.01/0.01 11:17:22
plugseg PIPELINE
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:17:33
piperun literal Hi World|console
Hi World
Ready; T=0.02/0.04 11:17:59
nucxmap
Name      Entry    Userword Origin   Bytes   Amode (Attributes)
PIPE      00BE1066 000E7E00 00BE1066 00000000   24
PIPMOD    00BE0148 000E7E00 00000000 00000000   24  SYSTEM SERVICE        IMMCMD
NAMEFUSE  00E93178 00099000 00E93178 00000000   24  SYSTEM SERVICE
NAMEFSYS  00E93178 000E2000 00E93178 00000000   24  SYSTEM SERVICE
Ready; T=0.01/0.03 11:18:07
spool cons stop

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DMSITP141T Addressing exception occurred at BF1318 in routine PIPE
PIPINX410E Abend 000000C5 at 00BF1318; PSW FFE000C5 E0BF1318.
PIPINX411I ... in PIPFNDFE; offset 000001B0 in PIPFND 08/05/91 17.55.
PIPINX412I ... GPR0: 00BF1258 002E44D8 00C00018 00BEF300.
PIPINX412I ... GPR4: 00BEF280 00BEF380 00290000 002E4048.
PIPINX412I ... GPR8: 002E6E00 00290068 00BEF300 00000001.
PIPINX412I ... GPRC: 40BF1190 002E46A0 A0BF11EA 00C00018.
PIPINX413I ... Store 00BF130C: E2E8E2E3 E8D7D503 C388F000 077E9500 F00E4780.
CMS


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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:28:14 EDT
From:         Kent Fiala <SNOKLF@VM.SAS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Capture both CMS & CP output
              23 Jul 1992 16:18:17 GMT from <dquagliana@ATTMAIL.COM>

On Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:18:17 GMT <dquagliana@ATTMAIL.COM> said:
>   We have a CMS module called ATTACH.  As a part of its processing it
>executes a CP command.  When an error occurs, a CP error message is output by
>this CP command.  What I want to do is to capture all of the output from this
>module, both the "CMS" output and the "CP" output.   I tried the CMS and
>COMMAND filters, but they did not capture the CP message.

I posted an example of how this can be done just last month, but I'll post it
again.  The drawback of my method is that it only works reliably if your
command produces no more than 255 lines of output, or if you have applied an
update to PIPSMG that so far as I know is only available on VMSHARE, and may
be only applicable to the PRPQ (I haven't gotten around to looking at the
CMS 8 code yet).

/* SAMPLE EXEC */
parse arg cmd
stop = 'please.stop.now'
cmd = cmd';'stop
'PIPE (end !) var cmd',
   '|   split ;',
   '|a: nfind' stop  ||,
   '|   cms',
   '|b: faninany',
   '|   console',
   '!',
   ' a:',
   '|b:',
   '!',
   '    starmsg *msgall',
   '|c: tolabel 00000005'left(userid(),8) || stop ||,
   '|   > sample output a',
   '!',
   ' c:',
   '|   spec /PIPMOD STOP/ 1',
   '|   command'

This might for example be invoked as

SAMPLE query disk;query names

or it might be invoked as

SAMPLE ASDF

where asdf is
/* ASDF EXEC */
address command
'QUERY DISK'
'CP QUERY NAMES'

Naturally you probably want to do something more interesting with the
output than just write it to a file, but this gives the idea.
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SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513 USA                 919-677-8000 x6646
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:50:15 EST
From:         MacPhil <IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Retrieving NETDATA format files from the Reader
              28 Jul 1992 13:32:43 EDT from <WTS@MAINE.MAINE.EDU >

On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:32:43 EDT Wayne Smith said:
>>This ends up being a REXX question.  ...
>
>   yep .. please read on ...
>
>>I believe that if you do:
>> "pipe reader | find" '41'x "| spec 2-* 1.80 | deblock netdata | console"
>
>   except that CMS Pipelines will see the blank after the x'41', leading
>   to unexpected results with some pipes (the blank matches any
>   character, but there must be a character there).  In this pipe stage
>   example, a single character record would not make it through the find.


'PIPE',
   '  READER',
   '| FIND' '41'X,
   '| SPEC 2-* 1.80',
   '| DEBLOCK NET',
   '| NFIND' 'E0'X,
   '| SPEC 2-* 1',
   '| CONSOLE';


I had this from the last time the discussion came up on this list...

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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:58:52 LCL
From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      Subject not specified.

 Reader files are such that there is at least one byte of data; so the
 additional blank doesn't hurt in this case.

     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:57:44 LCL
From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      Subject not specified.

Subject: GETFILES and EOF on output.

This pipeline scans all files on a minidisk to find the first
occurrance of a string:

   PIPE command LISTFILE * * | getfiles | locate /abc/ | take 1 | ...

This raises an "interesting" question:

 At the moment  PIPCMD stops when its  primary input goes to  EOF or it
 receives a  negative return code.  In  particular it does not  stop if
 the output becomes not connected.

 In the example, this is clearly not desirable in this example since it
 means  that the  pipeline solution  opens  all files  on the  minidisk
 rather than stopping when there is no point in going on.

 Should  I  change it  to  stop  when  all  output streams  become  not
 connected?  It would still run if the output streams are not connected
 at the beginning (ie as a  last stage).  (The change is trivial--as if
 that was ever a user concern ;-)

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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:57:26 EST
From:         Nick Laflamme <NLAFLAMM@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Retrieving NETDATA format files from the Reader

Maybe an obvious thing to try, but I'd try short-circuiting things from
the READER stage into a output file.  Then use XEDIT to see if there
really are any '41'x in there.  Might as well make sure your input is
good before worrying about why your output isn't as expected. :-)

If that's not the problem, ask more; I've more experience than I'd like
debugging NETDATA pipes, most of it due to user error. :-)

Nick

* NLAFLAMM@IRISHVMA.BITNET
* Dominique.P.Laflamme.1@nd.edu
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:29:24 MDT
Reply-To:     Paul_Gilmartin@stortek.com
From:         "Paul Gilmartin (303) 673-4428" <Paul_Gilmartin@STORTEK.COM>
Subject:      Re: SASTUTOR. FULLSCREEN, and Pipes
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Comments: cc: wills@lstc2vm.stortek.com

In message <199207291922.AA13545@csn.org>
    On         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:42:00 LCL
      Bridget Rutty <SYSBXR@SUVM.BITNET> said:


> the other queries the fullscreen setting and is supposed to also give
> the user messages.  But instead it sends the output of the query to
> the console and does not set the rexx variable.  I'm including the
> two pipes below.  We are using Pipes 1.5.  Is there some trick to
> the query fullscreen?

Why bother with a query?  The usage notes say:

3.  SET FULLSCREEN SUSPEND and SET FULLSCREEN RESUME can be "nested."
    For example, suppose full-screen CMS is ON and an application
    called MYPROG issues SET FULLSCREEN SUSPEND and calls another
    application, TESTPROG.  TESTPROG also issues SET FULLSCREEN
    SUSPEND.  When TESTPROG completes, it issues SET FULLSCREEN RESUME
    and control returns to MYPROG.  SET FULLSCREEN is still in the
    SUSPEND state and MYPROG continues to execute.  Upon completion
    MYPROG issues SET FULLSCREEN RESUME, which returns FULLSCREEN to
    the ON state.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:04:25 LCL
From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      Pipelines in shared segments.

 RE: Pipelines in shared segments.

 Refer to the program directory for how to install the pipeline in a
 logical segment.  Once you have done that use SEGMENT LOAD rather than
 plugseg.

     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:11:34 LCL
From:         Bridget Rutty <SYSBXR@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Piping into an Xedit file.

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:35:52 MEZ Otto Stolz said:
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:38:35 MEZ I said:

>> When ambidextrous people can't do it right, we do it left.
>As I'm right-handed and could not do it right, I did it wrong :-(

Ha, ha, ha, ha!  Well done!
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:32:43 EDT
From:         Wayne Smith <WTS@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Retrieving NETDATA format files from the Reader

>This ends up being a REXX question.  ...

   yep .. please read on ...

>I believe that if you do:
> "pipe reader | find" '41'x "| spec 2-* 1.80 | deblock netdata | console"

   except that CMS Pipelines will see the blank after the x'41', leading
   to unexpected results with some pipes (the blank matches any
   character, but there must be a character there).  In this pipe stage
   example, a single character record would not make it through the find.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:43:57 -0400
From:         The Observer <moehn@MAX.MPIP-MAINZ.MPG.DBP.DE>
Subject:      South Serbia

Bulgarian media note with concern that a new entity has appeared on the
Serbian world map: "South Serbia", otherwise known as Macedonia. What
this is indicating - you have three guesses, folks.

Meanwhile, in Germany there is growing certainty that the "ethnical
purification" of entire Bosnia is history's final word about a state
which wanted to be sovereign. People seem to settle with the notion
that the non-Serbian refugees, once being elsewhere, will never get
a chance to return. Silent nod of the three great arsehole organizations:
The UN, the EC, and the CSCE.

The Observer
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:38:00 N
From:         FALK2399@DS0RUS54.BITNET
Subject:      Havel

Mr. Kubaska and Martonak's refusals of Mr Havel as a Czechoslovak president
on the Slovak-l are fully respected and appreciated. What is still missing
is a constructive proposal of an alternative candidate who would be accepted
by the both nations of Slovaks and Czechs.

Regards,

M.Havranek, Sturrgart, FRG
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:12:00 N
From:         FALK2399@DS0RUS54.BITNET
Subject:      Common Monetary System?

    'for His is the kingdom and the power and the glory for ever'


It has become unusually calm on the Mideur-l these days. This may be  because
of the holiday season?

Recently I happened to have spent a couple of days in Czechoslovakia,
more precisely in Central Bohemia. On July 17, 1992 two other guests
and me watched  the declaration of the independance of the Slovak nation
on the TV in the lobby of a hotel in Beroun. None else present, seemed at all
interested, I am afraid.  Later  I was surprised to find the vast majority of
my countrymen whom I talked to in Central Bohemia and Prague the competely
independant Slovak State as an issue had already been finally worn out. The
Czechs are already discussing the pragmatic problems of future, e.g. monetary
reform and other measures concerning the national interest of the Czech State
which will continue its one thousand years old tradition.

The Sunday service in a community of 'The Unity of the Brethern' has given
me new strength. There are ever more and more young Czechs attending
the services and confessing whose really 'the kingdom, the power and
the glory for ever' would be. Surprisingly the Christian parties did not vote
for the Declaration even though they are traditionally catholic in Slovakia
and don't append the words to the Lord's prayer. So the present leadership
of the Slovak nation has finally won the kingdom, the power and the glory which
the Czechs have never wanted to share for ever.

What a nice surprise that Frajkor & Co haven't put their feet on the Czech
breast yet. I was mistaken as I awaited it and I am glad for that.
It would be somewhat difficult anyway, for the Czechs are not feeling
and in fact are really not crashed at all. And they will not be unless
Mr Klaus makes a bad mistake and accepts a common monetary system. This
is the barricade the Czechs have to defend now by any means! If the Slovaks
want to become _really_ independent and sovreign, they cannot share the Czech
crown! No way!

Regards,

M. Havranek. Stuttgart, FRG
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:30:50 -0400
From:         The Observer <moehn@MAX.MPIP-MAINZ.MPG.DBP.DE>
Subject:      Comment

"Worse than the Nazis."
   - Foreign correspondent's comment on the mutual atrocities in
     Bosnia
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:11:39 EDT
From:         Gaetano Deleonibus <GDELEONI@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Sign off

How does one sign off?
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:40:06 -0400
From:         "Andrej Brodnik (Andy)" <abrodnik@WATDRAGON.WATERLOO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: old church slavonic dictionary fund - help ple
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              Volak" at Jul 29, 92 6:43 pm

Hi there,

first of all, I think that this is a great idea to publish such a vocabulary,
but:

> From: Petr Volak <VOLAK%CSEARN.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
>
> THERE ARE LESS THAN 400 PAGES STILL TO BE PRINTED AND THEY'D
>                       COST $ 60,000.

This is quite some money. Wouldn't it be cheaper to put everything on computer
media and typeset it electronically? For example Oxford English Dictionary is
done that way, what means that tools are here. The charming thing is that it
becomes much easier to make any corrections in such edition and even publish
more different editions. Beside this, there are no problems (virtually) with
fonts etc.

Regards,

Andrej
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From:         BOB MACH <bmach@ASRR.ARSUSDA.GOV>
Subject:      test
X-To:         mideur-l <mideur-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>

Testing...
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:13:00 CST
From:         CSDOUG@STMARYTX.BITNET
Subject:      Humor in a humorless subject

To add a little humor into a quite sad situation, my summer Intro to
Computers class is logged onto this discussion net (hello students) and
to help heighten their awareness of events occuring around the world, I
ask quiz/test questions over information posted on the list or information
that comes up in our discussion of info on the list (part of my "let's put
what we learn to use" method).  I recently asked the following question:

The war in Bosnia-Herzegovina has taken on a "Religious War" aspect.  What
    is the dominant relgion of the three major groups of combatants?

    SERBS .................
    CROATS ...............
    BOSNIANS .............

One of my students answered as follows:

    SERBS:  atheists
    CROATS: christians
    BOSNIANS: presbyterians

Just goes to show you...ya gotta watch out for those "warlike" presbyterians.

Doug Hall
CSDOUG@STMARYTX
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:30:43 LCL
From:         bob <BTRAVICA@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: South Serbia
              28 Jul 1992 06:43:57 -0400 from <moehn@MAX.MPIP-MAINZ.MPG.DBP.DE>

On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:43:57 -0400 The Observer said:
>Bulgarian media note with concern that a new entity has appeared on the
>Serbian world map: "South Serbia", otherwise known as Macedonia. What
>this is indicating - you have three guesses, folks.
>
>Meanwhile, in Germany there is growing certainty that the "ethnical
>purification" of entire Bosnia is history's final word about a state
>which wanted to be sovereign. People seem to settle with the notion
>that the non-Serbian refugees, once being elsewhere, will never get
>a chance to return. Silent nod of the three great arsehole organizations:
>The UN, the EC, and the CSCE.
>
>The Observer

Dear Observer:
I can understand that things look different from different perspectives.
From the perspective of the current German government, any retailoring
of the Balkans map without Germany's approval and getting some benefit
from it is bad. Since Serbia or the trunk Yugoslavia is the only
agency on the territory of xYugoslavia that doesn't ask Germany's
government what to do and acts on its own, Serbia is Germany's major
enemy out there. Consenquently, all Serbia's moves in the Balkans are
proclaimed 'dangerous', 'aggressive', etc.

But, it's also plausible that Serbia is in part doing what it does,
to the extent it does, because of the German government's Balkans policy.
Germany's backing of secession of Slovenia, and then Croatia, and then
Bosnia, and then (??) - internationally, in DM, and in military resources -
has forced Serbia to get messed up probablly much more that it expected.

Well, that's how things look OBSERVED from this side of the Atlantic.
Of course, everybody has interests and strives to pursue them. But
I don't see how national government interests fit to discussions in
computer networks. Are you, dear OBSERVER from Germany, working for
your government, or what? Please don't take me wrong. Nothing personal!

Observer2

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