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From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 12/11/92
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:32:02 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                    No. 238, 11 December 1992

FIRST TRANSACTIONS ON ROMANIAN COMMODITIES EXCHANGE. The Romanian
Commodities Exchange reopened in Bucharest on 10 December after a
63-year break, Rompres and Western agencies report.  The only
transaction recorded was that of calf leather. Offers of aluminum,
cocoa, coffee, and photocopy paper went unsold.  The exchange has
88 founding members, who invested some $2.2 million. About half of
the shares are owned by state-run companies and the rest by
private firms and banks. (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIAN-US ECONOMIC COUNCIL MEETS. After the 18th session of the
Romanian-US Economic Council in Bucharest on 9 December, Rompres
quoted several figures released by the Romanian side. Romania
registered a deficit of $103 million in its trade with the US in
the first 10 months of 1992 (the deficit was $66.6 million in 1991
and $64.1 million in 1990).  In the first ten months of 1992,
bilateral trade amounted to $252.2 million, of which $74.6 million
was Romanian exports and $177.6 million was imports. Trade in both
directions declined from $741.4 million in 1990 to $301.6 million
in 1991. American investments in Romania now amount to $64
million, and US companies are the fourth biggest foreign investors
in the country. (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: POPOVICI@MURRVAX.BITNET (Mihai Popovici)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Another translation of Alan's poem
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:06:41 GMT
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From: ecn477s@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Please convert my poem to Romanian

          To a special friend with love
          -----------------------------

          I see storm clouds
          rushing across the sky,
          with nowhere to go
          in an eternity of darkness.

          Streaks of sunlight glow
          from a polished mirror's grin,
          warming all that it touches
          with its ever gentle fingers.

          Two people close together
          as small flecks on the earth,
          their passion raging daily
          soon they will be one.

        Cu dragoste, unui prieten deosebit
        ----------------------------------

        Vad nori de furtuna
        taind in graba cerul
        neavind unde se duce
        intr-o vesnicie de intuneric.

        Dungi de lumina solara lucesc
        de pe dintii unei oglinzi lustruite
        incalzind tot ce ating
        cu degete mereu gingase.

        Doi oameni se apropie
        ca niste mici pete pe pamint,
        patima lor arzind zilnic,
        curind vor fi una.
From: fraserdt@unixg.ubc.ca (David T.S. Fraser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Forex rates in Bucharest.
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:54:24 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
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First of all, thanks to every one who replied to my first posting.

Secondly, I have just heard from a relative in Romania who said that the
rate is 438lei/US$. The rate reported in the Vancouver Sun is probably a
combination of a misplaced decimal, official trade rate and re-conversion
to Canadian dollars. Prices in the shops have gone up by a great amount,
but not sufficient to reflect a rate change to 0.0003 $CDN per leu.

Cheers.
David Fraser




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 17 dec 1992
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:56:22 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                  No. 242, 17 December 1992

ROMANIAN PRINTERS' STRIKE.  A printers' union call for members to
stay off the job was widely followed across Romania on 16 December.
Western agencies quoted union leaders as saying that the strike
halted publication of nearly 200 dailies and weeklies. Printers in
state-owned publishing houses demand that their monthly pay be
doubled. But the government already rejected the claim as "aberrant
from an economic point of view," and offered a 50% pay rise
instead. Meanwhile, journalists expressed support for the strike;
and the management of the mass circulation daily Evenimentul zilei
announced that the paper is suspending operations in sympathy with
the printers. The strikers, who vowed to continue until their
demands are met, pledged to print, free of charge, a special issue
of a daily in Timisoara to mark the anniversary of the 1989
uprising.  (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

TIMISOARA COMMEMORATES DECEMBER 1989 UPRISING.  Thousands of people
marched through Timisoara in the evening of 16 December to mark the
third anniversary of the start of the anticommunist uprising that
eventually led to the end of Nicolae Ceausescu's regime.  George
Serban, a main leader of the 1989 revolt in Timisoara, said that
the hopes of the people there have been betrayed by Romania's
current regime.  He called a recent report by military prosecutors
on the killings in December 1989 "a masquerade" and accused the
authorities of trying to conceal the truth about the 1989 events.
Radio Bucharest broadcast a message by Romania's former king
Michael hailing Timisoara for "having broken the circle of
communist terror" in Romania. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

HUNGARIAN, ROMANIAN FOREIGN MINISTERS MEET.  Hungarian Foreign
Minister Geza Jeszenszky met with his Romanian counterpart Teodor
Melescanu at the CSCE foreign ministers conference in Stockholm on
15 December. Talking to a reporter from Hungarian Radio, Jeszenszky
said he has never seen the Romanians as forthcoming and apparently
ready to make commitments. The two ministers agreed on increasing
the number of border crossing points and on reducing the waiting
time and other complications currently encountered at the border.
(Judith Pataki, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: vohaul@spock.uucp (Razvan Surdulescu)
Subject: Romania - E-mail connection ?
Followup-To: none
Summary: E-mail
Keywords: none
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:12:15 GMT

Hello.
I am a Romanian student at a high school in Connecticut (Choate Rosemary
Hall) and I have read a couple of articles on this newsgroup about a
presumtive connection with Romania that might enable me to send 
letters there through e-mail.
I have also found an article in which the adress was given
(something like userid@pi-bucuresti.th-darmstadt...) and I was wondering
if this works fine. I can send e-mail from here , and it would be really
helpful for me if I could actually contact Romania through this mailing
system.
Could anyone please mail me , or post an article on the news (if possible 
in this newsgroup) on this subject ?
I would like to know if the connection is real and works , and also if the 
letters can actually get there without major problems , in a reasonable
amount of time.
Thank you.

My adress is 
		vohaul@choate.edu
or
		vohaul@spock.uucp


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From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 12/15/92
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:33:43 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report               No. 240, 15 December 1992

SCENE IN ROMANIAN SENATE.  Three of the main opposition
parties demonstratively left the Senate chamber on 14
December, Radio Bucharest and Rompres report. The National
Peasant Party Christian Democrat, the Party of Civic Alliance
and the Hungarian Democratic Federation of Romania (HDFR)
senators left the hall after the leader of the
extreme-nationalist Greater Romania Party, Corneliu Vadim
Tudor, demanded that the HDFR and the Timisoara Society be
outlawed.  He read in the chamber a letter sent from Budapest
by three Hungarian citizens, alleging that on the occasion of
the celebrations marking the third anniversary of the
revolution, members of the HDFR and the Timisoara society plan
to stage actions said to be dangerous for Romania's
territorial integrity.  (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)
UNEMPLOYMENT IN ROMANIA. The unemployment rate has reached
9.1%. Rompres reported on 14 December that according to data
supplied by the Labor and Unemployment Department, the number
of unemployed receiving allowances, together with those who
are no longer entitled to an allowance and people registered
as unemployed who do not fall under the provisions of the law,
now totals 1,013,425.  (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: photo@ccmail.orst.edu (Peter Freeman's Research Group)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Interaction with Romanian Scientists
Keywords: Correspondence
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:52:16 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Department, OSU, Corvallis, OR  97331-4003
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Hi,  In the Chemical and Engineering News there was a letter posted by 
Deborah Wallace of Consumers Union stating that Romanian scientists would 
like to open up correspondence to those in the States, etc.  I responded, 
and I have received a reply from Dr. Wallace that my letter is being sent to 
the Rector of the Ecological University in Bucharesti.  (I am looking at 
photochemical decay of pollutants).  Anyway, if anyone else out there is 
interested in contacting Dr. Wallace, her address:  Deborah Wallace, PhD., 
Consumers Union, 101 Truman Avenue, Yonkers, NY  10703.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: vmzmeu@halcyon.com (Zmeu Vladimir-Martin)
Subject: Request for names of Romanian Embassy staff in Washington D.C.
Summary: Request for names of current staff members at the Romanian Embassy
Keywords: Romanian Embassy staff
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:33:07 GMT

Does anyone have an up to date list of the staff at the Romanian 
Embassy in Washington D.C.?  If so, may I have a copy?

Va multumiri anticipat,
Zmeu Vladimir-Martin                      vmzmeu@halcyon.com
jhsegal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Please convert my poem to Romanian
From: jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Livian)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:36:27 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center

Just delet the original lines if you want to get it normaly:

>============================================================================
>
>          To a special friend with love
Pentru un special prieten,cu dragoste
>          -----------------------------
>
>          I see storm clouds
Vad nori de furtuna
>          rushing across the sky,
grabinduse peste cer
>          with nowhere to go
fara nici o directie
>          in an eternity of darkness.
Intr-o eternitate de intuneric
>
>          Streaks of sunlight glow
Raze de sore stralucesc
>          from a polished mirror's grin,
Din zimbetul unei oglinzi slefuite
>          warming all that it touches
incalzind tot ce atinge
>          with it's ever gentle fingers.
Cu degetele-i cele fine  (???)
>
>          Two people close together
Doi oameni apropiati
>          as small flecks on the earth,
ca mici puncte pe pamint
>          their passion raging daily
Pasiune lor crescind zilnic
>          soon they will be one.
in curind se vor uni


That's it. It doesn't sound to great in english,but in Romanian it is horrible
;) I posted it on purpose so if somebody thinks it is not right,please
correct it. It isn't a great translation anyway...;)
                                   ___
                                  (o o)
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    |      |    \   /    |    _ \       \   | JHSEGALL @ Weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
    |___   |       /     |    _  \    |  \  | UNIX:
        |  |      /      |   /    \   |     |  JHSEGAL  @ Wiscon.weizmann.ac.il
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 12/14/92
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:15:11 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report                   No. 239, 14 December 1992

YUGOSLAV SHIP LEAVES ROMANIAN PORT.  A Yugoslav ship detained by
Romania last week on suspicion of violating the UN economic
sanctions against rump Yugoslavia has left the port of Galati with
its cargo, Romanian authorities told Reuters on 13 December.  The
officials refused to give any explanation for the release of the
ship.  There was no word about two other Yugoslav vessels detained
in Romania last week.  (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

CSCE TO INVESTIGATE HUNGARIAN MINORITY PROBLEM?  On 12 December the
Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe approved the
appointment of former Dutch foreign minister Hans Van der Stoel as
the first High Commissioner for Minority Issues, an RFE/RL
correspondent reports. Hungarian diplomats at the Stockholm CSCE
conference said Van der Stoel may be asked to investigate the
problem of the ethnic Hungarian minority in Cluj, where Romanian
nationalist mayor Gheorghe Funar and ethnic Hungarian groups have
recently been at odds.  (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIAN EX-KING PLANS CHRISTMAS VISIT. King Michael, Romania's
former monarch, plans to spend Christmas in the country with his
family, Radio Bucharest announced on 11 December quoting a press
release from the king's office in Versoix, Switzerland.  Michael
has informed the Romanian authorities about his plans, but there
has been no official reaction. The former monarch was given a warm
welcome by the population when he visited the country last Easter.
He tried to visit Romania for Christmas in 1990 but was expelled
soon after arrival.  (Michael Shafir, RFE/RL, Inc.).

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: msirbu@next5.cs.umr.edu (Mihai Sirbu)
Subject: Moldova/Romania News from RFE/RL, 12/16/92
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:51:23 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

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RFE/RL Daily Report            No. 241, 16 December 1992

ROMANIAN PRINTERS BEGIN NATION-WIDE STRIKE.  The Romanian
Printers' Union, representing some 14,000 members, called a
nation-wide strike at state-owned publishing houses to begin on 16
December. In interviews with Radio Bucharest and Western agencies,
union leaders said that the strike will continue until the
government meets the strikers' pay demands.  The printers are
asking that their pay be doubled. The government has offered a pay
raise of up to 50%, warning, however, against raising printing
rates, which could scare off customers and eventually lead to the
elimination of jobs in the printing industry. Union spokesmen say
the strike will stop publication of five national newspapers, 35
local dailies, and some 50 weeklies. (Dan Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

1989 UPRISING COMMEMORATED IN TIMISOARA. Official ceremonies begin
on 16 December in the western Romanian city to mark the third
anniversary of the events of 1989. The uprising, which eventually
led to Nicolae Ceausescu's overthrow, erupted in Timisoara on 16
December 1989 when Romanian authorities tried to evict dissident
ethnic Hungarian pastor Laszlo Tokes from his church. According to
official reports, 97 persons were killed in that city alone. The
number of people killed throughout Romania was put in a recent
report by military prosecutors at 1,104.  On 15 December, Radio
Bucharest broadcast a message from President Ion Iliescu to the
citizens of Timisoara hailing the "heroes and martyrs of
Timisoara," but making no mention of Tokes's role.  (Dan Ionescu,
RFE/RL, Inc.)

ROMANIA, MOLDOVA SIGN MILITARY AGREEMENT. Returning from an
official visit to Moldova, on 15 December Romanian Defense
Minister Lt. Gen. Nicolae Spiroiu provided details on a bilateral
military agreement signed in Chisinau the day before. Radio
Bucharest quoted Spiroiu as saying that the new agreement offers a
legal framework for cooperation between the two armies. Romania
will help train and arm the nascent Moldovan forces.  The two
sides also pledged to promote contacts between their armies in the
field of culture, sports, and science.  Spiroiu also held talks
with his Moldovan counterpart Gen. Pavel Creanga, and was received
by President Mircea Snegur and Premier Andrei Sangheli.  (Dan
Ionescu, RFE/RL, Inc.)

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From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: A pronounciation question...
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:41:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Rosul is not of Slavic origin, but rather of Vulgar Latin lineage.
Among modern Latin languages Romanian is the only one to have kept 
the Ancient Latin structure of the definite noun. Namely, the defi-
nite article follows the definite noun . "Rosu" means red; in Italian
is becomes Rosso, in French Rouge, etc. "The Red (One) is Ros-ul or,
in modern Romanian Rosul. Italian :El Rosso, FR: Le Rouge, etc.

Cheers!
 


-- 
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Department of Economics
From: hancu@crim.ca (Marius Hancu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: La Multi Ani!
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:04:41 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal

Cu ocazia Craciunului si a Anului Nou, doresc sa exprim cele mai bune
urari de sanatate, implinire spirituala si materiala, fericire, tuturor
celor ce au participat direct la actiunea Free Unix for Romania,
impreuna cu multumirile si recunostinta mea.

A fost o reala placere si un privilegiu sa impartasesc entuziasmul
vostru. 

Aceleasi bune sentimente sint transmise celor ce ne-au incurajat sau au
ajutat in propagarea ideii. Speram cu totii ca numarul nostru va creste.

	LA MULTI ANI 1993
	SARBATORI FERICITE

As we are closing towards  Christmas and New Year celebrations, I would
like to send words of thanks to all involved in Free Unix for Romania,
and to all supporters.

	MERRY CHRISTMAS!
	SEASONS GREETINGS!
	HAPPY NEW YEAR 1993!


Marius Hancu



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From: acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Current forex rates in Bucharest?
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:36:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <fraserdt.723970195@unixg.ubc.ca> fraserdt@unixg.ubc.ca (David T.S. Fraser) writes:
>I just looked in today's paper and under the `currencies' section, they
>reported that one Lei was worth $CDN 0.000300! This is about 4300 lei to
>the US$. Last time I was in Bucharest (in August) it was more like one
>tenth that. Since I am assuming that this rate quoted in the paper is an

Yes... Check the next issue, too. There might be a "0" too much... They
don't care anyway, since there are so many there already.
	Alin
From: dobrin@tut.fi (Dobrin Bogdan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Romania - E-mail connection ?
Date: 13 Dec 1992 20:59:13 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Tampere, Dep. of Computer Science ,Finland 
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Keywords: none


In article <1992Dec13.031215.7787@spock.UUCP>, vohaul@spock.uucp (Razvan Surdulescu) writes:
|> Hello.
|> I am a Romanian student at a high school in Connecticut (Choate Rosemary
|> Hall) and I have read a couple of articles on this newsgroup about a
|> presumtive connection with Romania that might enable me to send 
|> letters there through e-mail.
|> I have also found an article in which the adress was given
|> (something like userid@pi-bucuresti.th-darmstadt...) and I was wondering
|> if this works fine. I can send e-mail from here , and it would be really
|> helpful for me if I could actually contact Romania through this mailing
|> system.
|> Could anyone please mail me , or post an article on the news (if possible 
|> in this newsgroup) on this subject ?
|> I would like to know if the connection is real and works , and also if the 
|> letters can actually get there without major problems , in a reasonable
|> amount of time.
|> Thank you.

But what about the inverse connection ?

Did someone receive or send some 'e-mails' through this channel ?

   ( It seems to be no "hand-shaking" for this link ! )

Wishing everybody a Very good day (night) we wait your pleasant answer !

Thanks in advance. 

   ( Here is 20:30 GMT and we have only six hours of daylight, Finland )



Bogdan P. Dobrin
Email : dobrin@cs.tut.fi
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