HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough bullshit!  Here's some REAL news...
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:10:36 GMT
Expires: 25 Oct 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1992Oct2.165241.15614@ncar.ucar.edu> ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
>In article <1992Oct02.020802.28455@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz>, clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Charlie Lear) writes:
>> Yeehar!  I got the Denizen Photo Collection in the mail today.  Thank 
>> you thank you thank you.
>
>Oh my god.  After two years?  I knew overseas mail was slow, but
>this sets a record, I think.

...heh heh heh - and Illllannnnnna's post comes close tying the "Unheard
From Lurker" record.  I presume that marriage agrees with you so much that
you've foresaken us (or are you and Brit having a disagreement and right at
the moment you've got nothing else to do....)


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
*********************************************************************
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:29:55 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <1992Oct8.132622.24365@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>
>>R100GS, best fishing spot scouting bike over 600 cc :-)))
>>100+ mph (with patience) and logging roads, all on the same trip.
>
>It's hard to argue with that.

**'Cmon Blaine**. You're supposed to say the KL650 is *much* more
perfect than the GS. It's faster, cheaper, doesn't buzz, comes with 
all the accessories you can get for the BMW, comes complete with a spark
arrestor, will wind up costing less after ten years, has many more
dealers, has really gorgeous paint, and most importantly, is a GS 
"perfected" by the Japanese. I mean, if it works for the FJ.....

Geesh!

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i
From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: What to do with old battery?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:38:24 GMT

Regarding surplus battery acid and toxicity:

The acid is sulfuric acid.  The reaction with baking soda
produces carbon dioxide (gas,  responsible for the foaming
of the solution), small quantities of water, and sodium
sulfate, which is non toxic. To limit the speed of the
foaming (which can be exciting as the reaction will also
produce heat, you may prefer to slowly add the acid to
a quantity of tap water first.  Warning, do not pour water
into the acid, go the other way.Then use the baking soda.

Al Moore,  DoD  734 or so

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 19:29:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.190150.16962@wam.umd.edu> delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
>a radar detector is a passive device; you can't detect whether someone has 
>it, but it is fairly easy to let out a pulse of r.f. radiation and see who
>responds as if using one (i.e., see who suddenly brakes for no other  
>apparent reason).   and i din't say that they don't use superheterodyne  
>technology; i said they don't need it (i.e., you can make a functional  
>radar detector without it).

Yes, but most do have some form of local oscillator, which is generally
detectable.  (A friend said he could see other radar detectors trigger
every time he drove past with his on.)

A company I worked for a while back was doing a feasability study on remote
monitoring of car radio use.  They mounted an antenna next to a driveway
in the company parking lot, along with a wideband amplifier and a frequency
counter.  As cars drove past, the frequency counter displayed the
local oscillator frequency from the car radio.  Since most radios use
the same intermediate frequencies, figuring out what station is tuned in
is a trivial matter.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flame Bait (was: Re: Drag racing)
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:04:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <1939@shaman.wv.tek.com>, harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer) writes:
>>>"Victimless crime" is an oxymoron.
>>
>>Not true.  Smoking dope is a victimless crime, many times.
>>-- 
> 
> I wonder if the people who care for crack babies would agree with you.

#1: If this thread stays alive let's move it to alt.drugs.

#2: *Note the qualifier*: "many times." If somebody smokes dope and is 
not pregnant, operating machinery (e.g., car, cycle, etc), or 
engaging in other activities that endanger others then it is _exactly_ 
a victimless "crime." And if you argue that the drug user [him|her]self 
is the victim of the crime then you'd better argue just as forcefully for 
the prohibition of alchohol, tobacco, saturated fats, and on and on.

Let's have some consistency in our conceptual framework here, folks. 
We need to decide if we want the law to try to protect us from 
ourselves or just from other people. The former attitude is what 
begets the War on Drugs, mandatory helmet laws, and all the other 
attacks on civil liberties we face today.

Vote Libertarian.

--
Josh Feinstein <feinstei@sonoma.edu>          I disclaim nothing.
PGP key available via .plan or email   <--- data encryption for the masses!
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Keywords: bovine kudu impala lechwe wildebeest pronghorn bison cow
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:23:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


I would like to prpose a new subgroup. There is clearly a vital need for
a rec.motorcycles.high.pitched.whining. 

Most of the postings for this group could be redirected here, so maybe 
bandwidth could be saved by simply removing rec.motorcycles.

Note no smileys.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: all
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:

>AMERICAN HANDGUNNER had an analysis of a gunfight where the bad guy
>took 17 rounds of 9mm before the fight ceased. The cop's partner had been
>shot thru the heart at the very outset. The remaining cop wrestled with
>the bad guy and put 17 rounds (yes, he reloaded) into him before the fight 
>stopped.  The fight stopped when one round broke the bad guy's pelvis.
>
>This was an article by Massad Ayoob in AMERICAN HANDGUNNER within the 
>last 18 months (since I've been subscribing). I didn't save the article
>so I don't know the exact month.

But did the guy beat the shit out of the cop after he was
shot those seventeen times?  That was part of the original
claim, if you recall.

>ObMoto: The creep wasn't riding a motorcycle at the time.

Was the cop?
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Guns vs. dirt bikes (Was: Almost stolen)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:08:34 GMT

ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola) writes:

>I think the point was that here in the UK, you don't carry guns to
>your local supermarket in case you get mugged.

You've got to stop listening to all those poor souls that have been
damned to live in hellholes like California & New York. Come check out
a quiet, dull, boring state like Utah sometime. We only use guns to
defend ourselves against vicious, dangerous animals like deer.

> In fact, hardly anybody
>carries guns, only armed robbers (and sometimes they are fake!)

I'll bet those fake guns make being shot by armed cops a whole lot less
painful. Or do you have a special squad that's armed with toy guns?


ObMoto: Here on the wild frontier I can buy a geenyoouwine dirt bike
(none of that wimpy dual-purpose stuff) put a license plate on it, and
legally ride it on the street. What are the odds of pulling that off in
Her Majesty's realm? And if you could, would there be enough off road
riding area to make the project worthwhile?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ridiculous M/C Engine swaps (was Re: Faster 1100)
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:45:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Oct7.001719.8294@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:

>  And???  I admit that it may more closely resemble a Harley than I originally
>thought (at least it uses a Harley engine block), but, it STILL isn't from
>Harley-Davidson.  Of course, in these discussions, I am a freak for STOCK
>machines - you can modify a machine to do just about anything you want,
>depending on how much you want to spend.

	Some of us prefer to have our ride be very different from the
universal offerings out there.  My CB750K is from Honda, and there is
little doubt it can be told from any other Honda.  Come to think of it,
most people have problems identifying the make, let alone the model.

	And no, this isn't a penis-thing.  It's just a matter of
expression.  If you want to drive a machine similar to any thousand
out there, that's your perogative.  As for me, I'd rather have a
bike I can tell at a glance no matter what company it sits in.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:06:10 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1bf08aINNs4c@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> In article 8113@bnr.uk, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>>Unfortunately, your country has become so used
>>to having guns that it would be difficult to ban them or make it more difficult
>>for citizens to obtain them without considerable hue and cry of the "how come
>>he's got one and I can't" variety. 
> Actually, the reason is even simpler:  It's written into the Constitution.

oh, ed, you're cynical enought to know that just because something is
written (or not written, as is my opinion) into the consitutition, it
has no basis in the reality of what goes on.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 12:54:26 CET
From: <SULDAL@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Which side do you mount up from?

In article <1992Oct15.023841.10754@athena.cs.uga.edu>, weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu
(Mike Weaver) says:
>
>As I was mounting up to ride to work the other day, my wife made the comment
>that I got on the bike on the same side as was proper to mount a horse.
>
>I thought about it for a second. I've only ridden a horse once or twice in my
>life. I couldn't have developed this instinct from that. I don't feel
>comfortable mounting my bike from the right, only from the left.
>
>Further thought lead to the conclusion that I mount from the left because
>that is the side that the side-stand is on.
>
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>I know, I know. Pointless drivel. It's been a long night.
>--
This of course raises the (very interesting :-) question of why the
sidestand is on the left side in the first place?
From a safety point of view it would probably be better to have the
stand on the right side, ie. such that if you stop at the roadside,
you get off on the side of the bike AWAY from traffic.
Hmmm... - May be out Brit colleagues have some ideas?
Also - was there ever a bike with the sidestand on the right?

Just some more pointless drivel...        :-)

cheers,
Steen
From: shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:28:10 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Mass General Hospital NMR Imaging Center

In article <daved.718991839@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>I thought I would drop in my 2 cents on 80-81 CB750's since I've owned a
>80 K and 2 81 Customs ( K's).
>
>They were nice bikes, but if you don't plan on rideing them everyday
>I would pass. For some reason they don't want to start if left 
>idle for more then 4 or 5 days. Long periods of cranking were required,
>at times exhausting the battery.
>
>This happened on all three bikes, after tune ups as well as before.
>Needless to say after the third CB I became a believer in Electronic
>ignition systems. 
>
>I don't work on my own bike, so maybe there is a way to keep the
>ignition system in fine tune, but from personal experience this bike
>needs to be riden every day.
>
>Dave
>DoD 1085

I think the CB750s made after 1979 have CD ignition (capcitive discharge?).
Atleast my '80 CB750-F does...

-Shin
DoD #0670

-- 
====================================================================

Shin Hirose
shinh@nmr-r.mgh.harvard.edu
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:02:52 GMT
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <92Oct14.151535.15488@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes...
>Okay, denizens...If you could only have 5 bikes in your garage,
>what would they be?

	1) BMW R100S -- serious traveling
	2) Ducati 900ss (the old one) -- playing
	3) Honda CBR900RR -- *serious* playing
	4) Harley Davidson Fat Boy -- just motoring around
	5) BMW Paris-Dakar -- anything I can't do on the other four.

	Boy I wish I was Malcolm Forbes... (of course, I'd be dead, but...)

-------
"Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."  -  Lou Reed
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |    NYC, NY.|
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: close call! & a question
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:23:22 GMT


My daily commuter is a 1980 Honda CB750 custom.
At the end of my normal 20 mile commute I was making a left into a parking lot.
I had signalled and as I was in the middle of my turn, a cager tried to pass
me on a double yellow. I saw her in the corner of my eye in the last second.
I stopped, but her rear bumper hit the tip of my front tire, the handlebars
went full lock right. I didn't dump it, and I gave the bike a close look-over
and nothing seemed dented or bent. I took the bike out for a test drive , I was 
in the city now and didn't get over 40 mph, the bike drove fine, but now the
handlebars seem slightly out of alignment . When going straight, the bars are
turned slightly to the left. Is this something that can be easily repaired,
or is something major, like getting a new set of forks?


------------------------------------------------------------
J.R. Ordon       '80 CB750C

The views expressed here are mine and not my employers
From: lm8637@tnessd.sbc.com (Lou Montgomery (214+464-1049))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough bullshit!  Here's some REAL news...
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:53:46 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell

In article <1992Oct02.020802.28455@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz> clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Charlie Lear) writes:
>Yeehar!  I got the Denizen Photo Collection in the mail today.  Thank 
>you thank you thank you.
>I'm amazed at just how normal you guys are.
>I'm impressed by Las)$^*#@lo's untinted hair!
>I'm amazed that Axel F is nothing like I imagined him to be.
>I also have no idea of who the hell to send it to, so could the original
>Keeper of the Album Mailing List please send me some names and addresses?

      Send it to me!  Lou (triple-digit-fly-bys) Montgomery
                      One Bell Plaza
                      Room 1920
                      Dallas, Texas  75202

      ________________________________________________________
      | I used to whine that my sex-life was such a squall,  |
      | 'till I met a man who had no hands at all.           |
      |______________________________________________________|
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:04:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: megatek.1992Oct16.160427.3922
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <Bw685D.3pB@magpie.nycenet.edu> manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve Manes) writes:
|Just to correct a few misstatements in this thread:
|
|1) A Sportster doesn't weigh 600 pounds.  The XLCH1200 is 470 pounds.

  True, although I believe that actual functional real-world weight of
a sportster is in the 540 lb range.  Harley is no different than every
manufacturer I've seen in advertising a weight that is impossible to
reproduce in the real world (I beleive my bike was advertised at 520 or
some such, and it actually weighs around 550).

|2) A Sportster doesn't have a 1340cc power plant.  The two flavors are
|   883cc and 1200cc.

  I don't think I said it did.  If I did, my mistake, as I did know that...
(for some reason, I misplaced my copy of that posting).

|3) A stock XLCH1200 motor produces 52 horsepower; the 1340s produce
|   slightly over 60 horses.

  Not according to the test reports I've seen.  Point in fact: the latest
_Cycle_World_ reports the figures I quoted in my posting - 50.7 hp for the
1340cc HD Electra-Glide, etc, etc...  I.e., none of the 1340cc models were
over 53 hp.  Just picking nits.

|change of pipes, most people prefer the Sporty's predictable, smooth
|pulling power.

  I'll put it up against the ZX-11 predictable, smooth, pulling power...
On a related note: a sporty *ain't* "smooth", no matter how you look at it,
although the power delivery is pretty consistent.  I don't know for sure
exactly which of these "smooth" attributes you are addressing.

|If you've got the scratch, I think a Sportster is a great beginner's
|bike.

  I would agree - the low saddle, the great torque, etc...  I think I said
in a post that a Harley would not be a great beginners bike, but I must
retract that (if you'll let me), because I was thinking of the larger ones
and not taking the Sportster into account.

|one T-boned another while showing off.  If the Evo engine doesn't rule
|motorcycling these guys were proof that evolution still rules motorcyclists.

  Amen!!  And bicyclists, too... :-)


Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:09:26 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct13.161212.5749@alex.com>, lisa@alex.com (Lisa Rowlands) writes:
> Hello
> 
> I am new to the Internet, and I was wondering if anyone can recommend
> a garage in the West London area that will service my bike without
> ripping me off.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Lisa Rowlands
> lisa@alex.com

lisa, never have your bike serviced in a garage, since most of the
people who work there know nothing about how to park cars, let alone
how to fix bikes.  better take it to a bike shop.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How many times did you take CALC II? was:Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:42:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw0p21.98s
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware

In article <1992Oct12.133746.16130@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
>O.K., I'll bite.  I ride a Harley and I took CALC II only once and I
>got a A.  I also got an A in CALC I, CALC III, CALC IV, and DIFF EQ.
>the first try.
>

Math weenie...


:-)

Steve

-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: the r.m meta flame topic
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:16:21 GMT

(0)  VMS vs Unix
(1)  what is countersteering?
(2)  bmws never die
(3)  fj's v. bmw
(4)  shaft or chain?
(5)  two stroke or four stroke?
(6)  harleys/japcrap suck
(7)  is "jap" an insult?
(8)  valve springs are for losers
(9)  how to put your bike on the centerstand
(10) are helmet laws good?
(11) using the back brake
(12) the s/n ratio is too high and the dod is responsible for it
(13) are .dirt,.harley,.racing groups good?  .tech? .dod?
(14) endless chains vs. master linx (thanks to dave lawrence)
(15) downshift or brake to slow down? (thanks to r.m.r)
(16) Vi or Emacs?
(17  Private Medicine or National Health?
(18) FJ v ZX1? ?
(19) Why don't they still make ????s ?
(20) Which hard drug is best for riding with/on/in/under?
(21) Best ways to de-mount cyclists, and should you?
(22) Which flavour of oil is best, apple or orange?
(23) Is your bike bisexual?
(24) Can girlies do it?
(25) What bike to buy for your SO, and should you?
(26) Wheelie-ing in driveways - techniques.
(27) Who is the KoTL, and what bike does it drive?
(28) Why isn't Europe a single country with simple laws that riders from
      other countries can understand?
(29) Which country/state makes the best tasting roadkill sarnies?
(30) What is all this sarcasm doing on this fine upr/tight newsgroup?
(31) Traffic lights or Give-Way signs (or roundabouts!)?
(32) Ca I run my moto on Bud?  Why is it so awful/good?  Can you drink it?
(33) If you only had 4&1/2 minutes to save the World, would you drink Bud?
(34) Do they make "beer" in America?
(35) Do Hardle make mower engines?
(36) Why only five?
(37) Should I shoot someone?  Why not?  Where?  With what?  Who?

et al


Nick (the Hungry Biker, stopping for Lunch)  MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Dinner card.


M'Lud.