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From: lillie@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Christopher Lillie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Purdue-Notre Dame prediction
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:46:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <Kevin.T.Buttler.1-260992184002@oucfax.cc.nd.edu> Kevin.T.Buttler.1@nd.edu (Kevin Buttler ) writes:
>
>Oh Chris,
>	Really...I haven't meant too many Purdue students (or alum for that
>matter)
>that love their school as much as you do.  After standing in the rain
>for 4 hours today and watching the Irish beat the piss out the boilers,
>I began to wonder why any one would consider hyping Purdue.
>				a) your team sucks
>				b) your campus is a dump
>				c) and your engineering program is overrated (entirely)
>
>In regards to that comment...I'm glad your proud of your school and all
>as long as you can accept the fact they you will still work for us some
>day!
>
>
>
>Kevin Buttler
>Instructional Technology Lab
>University of Notre Dame
>E-mail:  Kevin.T.Buttler.1@nd.edu

Well Kevin,
     Yes, my team did get stomped today as I must admit, yet as you so 
accurately pointed out I'm still proud of Purdue. The Boilers won't
always be that bad. I saw a better future in the Cal game. So we'll be 
back. Yes, Purdue has looked bad in their last two outings, but at least we
don't flame Colletto like you morons flame Holtz. Can't you dummies see when
you've got a good thing?
     In response to your comment about our Engineering program, from the 
education I'm getting (at a third of the cost of ND) it is not overrated. 
How the hell would you know whether or not it is overrated. I'm quite confident
that it is far, far ahead of the Notre Dame program.
     Oh yeah, we won't be working for you, but at least we will be working.
I'm quite sure you won't make it out of the unemployment lines.
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_______________________________________________________________________________

Christopher Lillie				*******************************
Purdue University				*	GO BOILERS !!!	      *
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From: c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu 
Subject: Re: Poll Injustice (was: WEEKLY TOP 25)
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:14:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.064326.21944@leland.Stanford.EDU>, tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes...
>In article <1992Oct4.205505.27683@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito) writes:
>>
>>      -----=====< The A.P. Top 25 >=====-----
>>
>>THIS LAST
>>WEEK WEEK  SCHOOL      W L T  Last Week's Results          Next Game
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 1    1  Washington    4 0 0  WON v. SouthernCal, 17-10    v. California,10/10
>> 2    2  Miami         4 0 0  WON v. Florida St, 19-16     at Penn St., 10/10
>> 3    4  Michigan      3 0 1  WON v. Iowa, 52-28           v. MichiganSt,10/10
>> 4    7  Tennessee     5 0 0  WON at LSU, 20-0             v. Arkansas,10/10
>> 5    5  Texas A&M     5 0 0  WON v. Texas Tech, 19-17     v. Rice, 10/17
>> 6    9  Alabama       5 0 0  WON v. S. Carolina, 48-7     at Tulane, 10/10
>> 7    8  Penn State    5 0 0  WON at Rutgers, 38-24        v. Miami, 10/10
>> 8    3  Florida St    4 1 0  LOST at Miami, 19-16         v. N.Carolina,10/10
> ^^^^^^^^
> 
>Now is it me, or is this highly unfair? I mean 2 plays 3, and 2 barely
>wins as 3 misses a 39 yd field goal to tie it in the last seconds of
>the game. Exactly what should happen if you rely on the polls, i.e. 2
>should beat 3, because they're ranked higher, but shouldn't win by
>much, because they're right beside one another in the polls. So why
>drop them to 8th? Especially behind an A&M team that barely beat Texas
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is certainly true. But Texas tech is certainly better than the Stanford
team, do not you think? We beat Standford in California by 3 points, and can 
only manage a last second win over Tech on our home field. What else can you 
say?

Besides, a win is a win is a win, right? 


>Tech... C'mon pollsters, wake up. 
> 
>Not that I care about Florida teams... At least they left Washington
>where they should be.
> 
>>11   18  Stanford      4 1 0  WON at Notre Dame, 33-16     at UCLA,10/10
> ^^^^^^^^
> 
>This, on the other hand, demonstrates excellent judgment.. 8-)
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I would say that ND is way overated. They only look good on paper, as always.
Besides, does not Notre Dame mean No Defense? That implies Walsh can only beat
No Defense, he can NEVER beat the Aggies, Never!

> 
> 
>========================================================
>| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal  |
>| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl     |
>========================================================
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Gupta Power Ratings 9-28-92
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:02:33 GMT

In article <92272.141909C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, C31801AG@WUVMD (Bapi Gupta) writes:
|> 
|> By the way, how come no one ever flames my ratings (except Njan, who is
|> getting boring to counterflame)?

Let's see, last week you picked Hawaii to win, SMU to win, and Va Tech to
lose to WVU.  Not a bad record at all for picking upsets.

|>  58. Virginia Tech                183.83   2  2  0  0.500    4   4   1  0.500

Well, a fellow Big East netter noted to me last week that I wasn't 
complaining enough about these computer rankings, so I'll start up
my griping this week:

You've overranked Virginia Tech.

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Arizona beats UCLA
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:54:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: well.yvonne.718304058
Distribution: na
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

In <1992Oct5.064921.22615@leland.Stanford.EDU> tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:

>In article <1anmm8INNgmk@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>>Arizona defeated UCLA in Tucscon, 23-3.  
>>I guess the Huskies don't have to worry about an undefeated UCLA getting
>>the trip to Pasadena.  And I think we can probably put to rest the
>>notion of a Penn State-Washington Blockbuster Bowl for the MNC.
>>
>>The only teams which really threaten the Huskies chances are Stanford
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>and Cal, and Washington plays both of those teams at home.
>^^^^^^^^
>>
>>William F. Tell
>>UC Berkeley

>Ahh Bill, Washington ain't no Oregon State... And they're a tad better
>than Purdue. ;-)  You know, Purdue, the team that LOST to Northwestern
>and outscored a certain PAC10 team by 27 points...


>========================================================
>| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal  |
>| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl     |
>========================================================
Yo, Marc, man chill out.  I know he's from Cal, but you're in danger of
upsetting the woofing gods, big time.

UCLA just came off a stinging loss, where the away fans were yelling "BRUINS
SUCK, BRUINS SUCK."  Stanford is coming off a big, emotional win.  They have
to play UCLA on the road.  Do you understand what that spells???  Don't you
remember what happened after the Notre Dame win two years ago?  Cut out the
Rose Bowl crap until we've beaten somebody in the top half of the Pac-10
(which right now could be just about anybody).

This game is even bigger than last week's because IT COUNTS in the Pac-10
race.  If you don't want to spend Christmas in Anaheim, KNOCK IT OFF.
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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: MSU vs. Alabama prediction (was Re: Gators are DONE!!!)
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 02:13:46 GMT

In article <dkm2.718075441@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>Early prediction: MSU & Bama  the game will be all defense & special teams
>with little or no offense.
>
>David

Well, lets see how rational this is. Alabama NEVER has an offense, MSU
has lost it's star QB who triggered their entire offense, and also
lost their 2nd string QB... gee, David, you really went out on a limb
with that prediction, eh? ;-)

Jay

-- 

*********************************
  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy
From: chrisp@acpub.duke.edu (Christopher Pelham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami (one more opinion)
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:01:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

>Just out of curiousity, why does FSU care about ND?  They don't play
>each other and haven't for years.  I don't think ND really cares one
>way or the other about FSU, if anything ND fans root for them to beat
>Miami.
>
>I can't speak for all Noles fans but I hate ND 'cause their arrogant and
overbearing and have stolen and won with Florida talent for years.  I prefer
to keep the championship in the state or the ACC.

For the record FSU is 1-0 vs. Notre Dame (although the win was vs. Faust)
and they will begin a regular series in a couple years, making  FSU's non-
conference schedule ND, Miami, and Florida, easily toughest in the country.
>
>Does Florida State play anyone tough this year besides Miami? (Not a
>flame, I just want to know.)
>
>|> Dave Ryan
>
>Bob Jones

Well, FSU has already played and beaten two of the best defensive teams in
the country in Clemson and NC St. After Miami loom Georgia Tech, UNC, Virginia,
and Florida.  Though Florida's off. line has cost them two losses already, they
will no doubt be much more together in two months.  And God knows, they'll
play like killer crack fiends vs. FSU, as it will be their only salvation this
season.

Chris Pelham
________________________________________
The Head is dead.  God bless Fred the Head.
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From: jeff@photon.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Subject: A&M beats Texas Tech
Reply-To: Jeff@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:06:46 GMT

Final score Texas A&M 19 Texas Tech 17 from Kyle Field won by a 21 yard
field goal from Aggie kicker Terry Venetoulias with 3 seconds left on
the game clock.  Tough do or die drive starting on the Aggie 20 with
about 5 minutes left in the game and A&M down 17-16.  Aggie quarterback
did some Bucky Richardson imitations unbelievably avoiding a sack and
converting a 3rd and 8 from around midfield.  Resulted in the winning
kick with time running out.

A big congratulation to Texas Tech who played its best game and almost
pulled the upset.  Some kind of obscure attendance record was set, as
there were within a couple of hundred of 70,000 fans at Kyle field
today. 

Prognosis: If A&M can get needed consistency from QB Granger (still a
big problem), they appear to have a very good shot at the national
championship _this_ season.

Also, congratulations to Stanford for beating Notre Dame!
--
           Jeff Goldberg                        
           College Station, Texas       
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From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: Washington 17, USC 10
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:18:21 GMT

>Indeed.  I wonder if perhaps the Pac 10 is about as strong as it's ever
>been.  First you've got UW.  Enough said.  Cal finished #7 last year,
>and after that fiasco against Purdue, has recovered to look capable
>of finishing around #11-15 or so.  All Stanford did was paste 33 big
>ones on ND, in South Bend at that.  It would appear that the drugs are
>wearing off at U$C (damn), UA came ever-so-close in Miami, and UCLA
>has looked very sharp until they got buzzsawwed last night.
>
>There is some serious talent on the Left Coast these days.  Cal's
>team of today would have ripped through the Pac-10 of ten or twenty
>years ago.  But the price of poker is up now, and U$C, Arizona, UCLA
>and the Junior University all worry me.  (UW, on the other hand, doesn't
>concern me in the slightest...)
>
And you haven't even mentioned undefeated Washington State with perhaps
the best quarterback in the nation in Drew Bledsoe.  They moved into the
top 25 last week as well.  Damn, the west coast teams are not only good,
they're getting the credit for it.

Jason Gische
Go Stanford.  Rock the Bruins.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Freshman QB's.....
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:27:42 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) wrote:
}
}How about Shawn Jones for an impact freshman?  Sure his junior year was a 
}dissapointment, but his freshman year was brilliant, for a frosh of course.

Yes, but Shawn did redshirt his first year.  Kevin is looking for
true freshmen rather than redshirts.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  6 Oct 1992 12:54 EST  

In article <1992Oct5.164007.5196@u.washington.edu>, crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes...
>If I was an AP or USAT/CNN voter, my #1 vote would go to the Volunteers of
>Tennessee.  They have consistently played well against good opposition.
>The truth be known:  Miami, U-Dub, TAMU and Penn State have all struggled

Here I thought I was gonna get flamed for ranking Tennessee No. 2 ahead of  
Miami, and you come along and one-up me.  However, I have to consider this 
anti-woofing.  Washington is still the best based on opponents and final 
scores.



> 
>****************************************************************************
>Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
>Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
>University of Washington      *   water again!
>Seattle, WA 98195             *
>****************************************************************************

R Dendy
From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: football in Florida
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:09:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct2.150459.23490@cs.wm.edu> djryan@ct.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan) writes:
>Well, it still looks like Florida is another level below FSU and
>Miami. The Gator-faithful have been beating their chests for a 
>couple of years now, but I can't remember FSU or Miami losing
>back-to-back games in that fashion (at least not in the last 6
>years or so). In fact, FSU and Miami only lose like that to each
>other. I still say that FSU and Miami are the cream of the crop,
>the Arizona game notwithstanding.
>
How about a few years back when (I think it was) Clemson
and Southern Miss smoked FSU the first two games of the
season?  Of course, they went on to be maybe the best team
in the nation by the end of the year.

The Gate's won't do that, though.  Wait 'til next year...

Andy *looking for another team* Breeden
From: tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:52:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep29.165258.14769
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>God I am so tired of reading the pac-10 fans wooofin' on east coast 
>teams and how great washoutton is. I hope they take the challange of 
>going to the fiesta bowl with us (FSU or MIAMI) and show  the usa what 
>brand of football UW plays: powderpuf (against pac-10) or hardhitting
   
Hey, freshman, do you know what conference Arizona is in?  Do you know
	what their conference record is?

>"espn in your face" where even the injured play (i.e. 
>armstead,torretta <UM  baker, m. jones <FSU)

Wow, your guys play injured??????!!!!!  I've, I've, I've never heard of that
	happening!!!!  Wait, you just foolin', right????????????!!!!!!!

GT

>--->->->--------------G-O------N-O-L-E-S---------------------------------->
>James O'Connor                          FSU-vs-MIAMI
>JOCONNOR@evax.eng.fsu.edu               Oct 3,1992   12:00pm
>"  ... I don't need this shit!"         Orange Bowl, Miami
>              -kinison
From: ds4@soc8.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:57:22 GMT

In article <9209251510.AA09956@walt.disney>, chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:

|> Virginia 38  Duke 20

I wish....what a headache.....
From: rszczerb@joplin.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:08:15 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <y6!pwlf@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>Miami is the greatest team of all time...they can beat Arizona 8-7.
>
>

I can't wait to hear all the excuses from those arrogant Miami fans.
First they schedule Florida A&M and then they squesk by Arizona at home.
There's no way Miami even deserves to be in the top 5, much less #1.

		- Rob
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From: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com (tad w stephens)
Subject: Re: Could there be 3 nat'l champs?
Reply-To: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:12:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.183727.2633@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep29.160150.29145@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:

|> >I was wondering earlier - 
[a few lines deleted]
|> >Tennessee goes 11-0, with a Sugar Bowl bid.
|> >    
|> >Does anyone see a lil problem?
|> 
|>     Yes, someone laced your coffee.
|> 

The poster probably should replace Tennessee with SEC champs.  Personally, 
Alabama is going to be tough to beat anywhere this year; I don't know of many 
teams in the country who can score on their defense.  Tennessee has won two
big games but has some major challenges ahead (@LSU, Bama, and Vandy {yes Ethel,
I said Vandy}); predicting an 11-0 season is <very> premature.  I believe the 
SEC champ at 11-1 going into the Sugar Bowl is more realistic than an 
undefeated team.


|> >Weirder things have been known to happen, but I can't see Tennessee, A&M, 
|>                                                            ^^^^^^^^^
|> >or Washington losing this year. 
|> 
|>     Oh, I can see it.  Twice.  And one other thing; If an SEC team is
                          ^^^^^^
|> anything and 0 going into the bowl games, whoever they are, they
|> will be 12-0, not 11-0.  We *have* a playoff system.
|> 
|> --
|> Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
|> After all, it *is* the centennial


Say what you mean, Guy!  If this is an Alabama woof, I want it identified as
such for Oliver's Theorum :)  All kidding aside, this is shaping up to be 
another classic Third Saturday in October with a very young Tennessee team 
lining up against Alabama's best defense in the nation plus the Deuce.  Look
for the team scoring the most points to win (You'll get no shameless boasts 
from me!)


Tad "Who do I see about ordering a rainstorm or two in Knoxville?" Stephens
tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Goobers to invade net--run for cover!!!
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:57:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

To:	Goober Smith
	Supreme Dictator for Life
	Goober School for the Unkneauxing

From:	Cliff Slaughterbeck
	Vice Dictator for Life in charge of Vice
	Goober School for the Unkneauxing

Re:	Operation Goober

The operation is well underway.  School starts here this week, and with
the Huskies being ranked #1 in both the AP and CNN/McPaper polls, we are
sure to have a horde of freshmen and returning net.goobers posting 
generally clueless and unkneauxing statements.  General UMASS!!! sort of
stuff.  I see that you have recently reactivated our supersecret agent
Avie at NCSt on r.s.b.c, and with the horde of unkneauxingness that shall
issue from the U-Dub chapter, I am sure that we have gotten well ahead
of IGK, BWI, and the Cheesehead academy.  JJ's recruitment of Mark had me
scared for a little while though.

Cliff (by the way, did I mention that Notre Dame sucks?) Slaughterbeck

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Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UW wins with ref's help
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:58:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewse.1992Sep29.185837.23374
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


The Chicago Trib stated that a replay of the 2 pt conversion by Wisconsin
clearly showed that his knee was down before the ball ever crossed
the goal line. Northern's coach also said that he didn't make it. The ref
called it good. Funny how that call was made.

Real score

                NIU 17  Wisconsin 16




Prediction: Ohio St 35 Wisconsin 14
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:48:23 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best Marching Band -- Blue Band ?

In article <6476@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
says:
>
>In article <92273.112426JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu> JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu (John
>Johnson) writes:
>>In my understanding, the Penn State Marching Blue Band is one of the best.
>>They've got a good sound (if they're facing me in the student section and not
>>just bouncing off the alumni), and their pre-game show is great.  They can
>>certainly high-step with the best of them.  They've also been getting a
>little
>>less rigid with their halftime shows, like a week or two ago when they played
> ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
>>'I can't dance' and marched in a goofy step reminiscent of the video.
>
>   Glad to see someone else agrees with me on this.  Last year I posted
>an article describing how unemotionally the Blue Band played rock, and I
>was royally flamed by PSU fans.  You simply can't perform rock music
>without moving to the music; otherwise you're just playing a bunch of
>mechicanical notes.  It's impossible to play the rock without the roll.

Once in a while, it's nice to move a bit. But to move all the time is stupid,
because a marching band isn't gonna ever be as good at it as, say, Florida
A&M, and ends up looking like the Pittsburgh Marching Fools.

Most of the music we play isn't "rock" anyway. It's pretty stupid for a
marching band to try to play that kind of music - it isn't designed for
a large group.
----
Mike Dahmus       MXD118@PSUVM  or  dahmus@cs.psu.edu
TEAM OS/2