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From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Re: Alien in a bar.
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:40:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.220347.21319@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:


>  A few years ago, I met an alien in a bar. Actually, It was a woman
>claiming to be an alien.
>  She said that she was an incorporeal being from another dimension who
>decided to inhabit a human infant and grow up in our culture. The
>reason for this is that her colleagues were going to destroy the earth
>in 1997 because of mankinds potential to develope interdimensional
>transport (they also think that we are sick and disgusting, no suprise
>there).
>  She is of the opinion that we have some redeming qualities and does
>not want us to be destroyed just yet.
>  Believe it or not, this is not fiction. Has anyone else heard of
>incorporeal biengs in human bodies wanting to destroy the earth?




Yes, I saw bodysnatchers once.

	----GH----
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jagnow@al.weeg.uiowa.edu (Al Jagnow)
Subject: Supersonic wingless aircraft
Reply-To: jagnow@al.weeg.uiowa.edu (Al Jagnow)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:17:06 GMT

I heard something on the radio this morning about commercial airline pilots in  
california reporting a 'close encounter' with a wingless supersonic aircraft.
I think the source was given as 'Aviation Week'.

Anyone else catch the report -- or was I asleep at the time?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:38:19 EDT
From: Joe Carlson <JKC3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Too secret for the US President's eyes?
Distribution: alt
 <Aug.24.10.52.37.1992.10904@dropout.rutgers.edu>
 <1992Aug24.190347.8906@morwyn.uucp> <1992Aug24.235438.13654@cs.ucla.edu>
 <n0=nlkc.tomrice@netcom.com> <92237.233649JKC3@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <Aug.25.09.40.56.1992.11743@dropout.rutgers.edu>

To charles

   First, this was just an example of one item that was unknown to
the President.

   Secondly, it does belong here, because it shows that even the
Almighty President (*cough cough*) may not know alot about any Alien
coverups.

   Thirdly, I think you need to read more carefully and get the
main point of an article, and not just one or 2 statements.
From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Loose Lips
Keywords: n
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:07:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	spani@mprgate.mpr.ca (Leonard Spani) writes:
	There is also some "law" in the U.S. which could subject any
	military personel who talk about a UFO sighting to several
	years in jail and the loss of any pensions/benefits they might
	have earned.  This could keep people pretty quit well into
	retirement.

	I don't have my references with me (I'm at work - coffee break
	- honest ;^), but the phrase "JANAP" comes to mind. I also
	seem to remember something about the Air Force and the number
	10 (10 years in jail?, $10,000 fine?)

... I believe you are describing JANAP (Joint Army-Navy-Airforce
Publication) 146, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 10 March, 1954.  The
relevant part for civilians (Section III - Military and Civilian) says:

   "All persons aware of the contents of a CIRVIS [Communication
Instructions for Reporting Vital Intelligence Sightings] report are
governed by the Communications Act of 1934 and amendments thereto, and
Espionage Laws.  CIRVIS reports contain information affecting the
National Defence of the United States within the meaning of Espionage
Laws, 18 US Code 793 and 794.  >>The unauthorized transmission or
revelation of the contents of CIRVIS reports in any manner is
prohibited<<" (emphasis added.)

... the penalty specified is 10 years and/or $10,000.  In a UFO
context, UFO sightings wind up in a CIRVIS report (so do aircraft and
missles, but ufo's are dealt with separately.)  In December 1958, for
instance, 50 airline pilots who had made UFO reports were specifically
threatened with jail if they made what they had seen known to the
media, based on JANAP 146.

  Also, in a 20 October 1969 memorandum, USAF Brig. Gen. C. H.
Bolender, deputy director of Development DCS/Research & Development,

"... reports of unidentified flying objects which could affect
national security are made in accordance with JANAP 146 or Air Force
manual 55-11, are not part of the Blue Book system".



   ... which means that there are indeed UFO reports that "went
around" Blue Book, and are still classified.  (What they are is
anybody's guess.)


Charles

PS - Anybody got a copy of USAF manual 55-11?

PPS - Source: Timothy Good's excelent "Above Top Secret".
From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Government Coverups (Re: Moon Activities?)
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:21:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <c8=n1an.jeffp@netcom.com> jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau) writes:
[...]
>
>I found it interesting how the secrets are kept, and John Lear cites the
>example that for 200 years the knowledge that the earth orbited the sun
>was kept from the masses by the church. 

Yeah, but then they were just about the only ones who could read,
write, or publish.  It's just not a fair comparison.

>This is an example, but modern day
>stuff is much more scary:
>
>RECIPE FOR A COVER-UP
>
>1) paranoid fantasy
>2) paranoid fantasy
>3) paranoid fantasy
>4) paranoid fantasy
>5) paranoid fantasy
>6) paranoid fantasy
>7) paranoid fantasy
>
>I could go on and on...
>but I won't .
>Jeff-

Jeff - are you maybe Gary Stollman's long lost brother (clone?)  I
dunno, his stuff rambles more but IMHO it's lots more fun to read.

	RA
From: WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFO Chain Letter
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:24:16 GMT
 <!5bnc7.anson@netcom.com> <Bty1M0.5xC@research.canon.oz.au>
 <6nlnwx_.anson@netcom.com>
Organization: Penn State University

Well, to be paranoid, how do we know that there aren't riots going on
in south Florida, with what is billed as the biggest military operation
since Desert Storm working out of Homestead AFB?  With the major
networks obviously in the hands of aliens/Nazis/Jews/CIA/Illuminati/
Masons/etc., wouldn't they be blacking out the real news?  I wouldn't
put it past evil Zeta Reticulan technology to have aimed Andrew to
create just such a diversion (they missed New Orleans, however).

Bill Ellis
FOAFtale News
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:40:35 EDT
From: <EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFO Chain Letter

Fascinating note.  Obviously the person who wrote it (originally, I guess)
suffers from extreme paranoia and seek psychiatric help immediately!
These Greys and Reptiods (or were they from another note?) are ridiculous.
When will people cut this "conspiracy" thing, especially when it involves somet
hing so ludicrous as extra terrestrials, etc.
From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Is 700 club safe?
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:19:15 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <BtutnB.C4p@world.std.com> believer@world.std.com (Frank G Sesco) writes:
>ATTENTION: FASCISTS HAVE CHANGED PLANS BUT THE DANGER HAS NOT PASSED!

Hmmmm.  Methinks that if the grays were so all-powerful, they would
have had this Michael Younger character whacked and buried.

If the "conspiracy" was aware that we, the public, were onto their
plans, then they could:

1.  Identify Mr Younger because of all the posts containing his name.
2.  Track him down
3.  Plant subliminals to get people to turn him if he's hiding
4.  Turn him into a vegetable or brainwashing him into confessing he
    made all this up.
 
Get real.



-- 
Rick Pavek                       | Never ask a droid to outdo its program.
                                 |           
Seattle, WA                      |   It wastes your time
                                 |          and annoys the droid.
From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: ATTENTION: CIVIL WAR Chain Letter
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:01:45 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

In <92239.091220WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu> WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>First stage was the LA riots; 2nd will be riots in other major cities; 3rd,

Sounds like an ordinary day in the life of the Earth to me.  Nothing
spectacular. :-)

>Pres. Bush will call in the United Nations, and all private means of
>communicating info (e.g., PCs and photocopy machines) will be confiscated;

:-) :-)  I'd like to see them try.  If they wanted to stop communication,
they'd have to shut down all phone lines, the postal service, turn the radio
and TV spectrum to mush with random noise, and confine everyone to their homes.
No need to confiscate anything, and arguably easier to acheive (not much
easier :-) .

>Anybody else get this chain letter or know anything about this bird?  (Is he
>Condor or Falcon?)

Sounds like a joke.  Someone is probably sitting at home laughing their heads
off thinking of how many people are taking it seriously.

Cheers,

Rhys.
--
Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"
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From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau)
Subject: Re: Government Coverups (Re: Moon Activities?)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:34:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

Charles writes:

The Watergate coverup failed because various
necessary conspirators (the CIA, specifically) refused to have
anything to do with the coverup.

i*******************************

If you think the public's viewpoint, or information released by Woodward and
Bernstien was all there was to the Watergate scandle, you don't really understand
the half of it.

Even the most level-heads agree that Nixon was setup by the CIA to fall such that
the "Bay of Pigs Thing" (Kennedy ASSINATION) wouldn't come out.

And the truth could lie much deeper. As far as that goes, there is reason to believe that Deep Throat WAS the CIA! So don't go telling ME about how they refused
to have anything to do with the cover-up. Have you ever heard of G. Gordon Liddy?
We're talking about THE AGENCY.
Jeff-
 
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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Tesla: Genius and Fruitcake All In One
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 12:41:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.080925.28845@msc.cornell.edu>
maynard@groo.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
 
>
>>Under the guise of the FDA, they are now attempting to outlaw the sale of
>>vitamins and herbs without a prescription. This is a law that has already
>>been passed in the Senate call the NLEA. More laws are being proposed
>>that
>>will also give the FDA the power to shut down vitamin suppliment
>>companies,
>>and restrict access to information (HR3642/S2135 and HR1662).
>
>Maybe this is because many of the people selling these things make
>ridculous bogus claims, with no evidence to back them up. Truth in
>advertising does actually matter- even when it's your favorite cause.
 
But...but...that's not the point! :)
 
Unfortunately, those who are taken in by such schemes then scream for
the gov't to do something about the situation.  And in advance, the
people are taken in that much easier up front as they assume the gov't
would never allow something/someone harmful to continue doing business
or else they are conspiracy phreaks and figure anything the gov't
must be trying to shut down must be legitimate.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: Fsdlk@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: FAQ gathering address change
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:45:53 GMT

TO those of you who were sending me the information I 
requested for putting together a FAQ, Sorry for the 
bounce back, our mailserver is down, PLEASE send the
information I requested to:

    Bitnet: Fsdlk@alaska
  Internet: Fsdlk@acad3.alaska.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~  .            .      .        Nasha tai no kasei!         .   . ~
~  ...          .......           .            .                  ~
~  .            .               Prosperity and Long Life, To You. ~
~  .... xisting . hantom              .             .             ~
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:12:20 EDT
From: <WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: ATTENTION: CIVIL WAR Chain Letter

One of my moles in Omaha, Nebraska, sent me a chain letter that he picked
up there (it comes with instructions to make 30 copies to post, mail to
politicians, hand out in the streets, etc.).  It alleges to give a 6-stage
plan engineered by aliens to set up a 4th Reich of Nazis by January 2000.
First stage was the LA riots; 2nd will be riots in other major cities; 3rd,
Pres. Bush will call in the United Nations, and all private means of
communicating info (e.g., PCs and photocopy machines) will be confiscated;
4th, the US Govt. will admit that Zeta Reticulans have landed; 5th, the stock
market will collapse; 6th, Bush will be assassinated and "Dan Quale" will
become President (I suppose that's the way he'll spell his name by then).

All this is given on the authority of a Mr. Michael Younger, who claims to
have been a member of the top-secret COM-12 group and a scientist at the
US-ET base at Groom Lake.  He supposedly laid out this info at a UFO
convention at Arcadia, California, on July 4, 1992.

Anybody else get this chain letter or know anything about this bird?  (Is he
Condor or Falcon?)

Bill Ellis
FOAFtale News
Penn State, Hazleton
From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: ATTENTION: CIVIL WAR Chain Letter
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:25:30 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <9998@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> rhys@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>:-) :-)  I'd like to see them try.  If they wanted to stop communication,
>they'd have to shut down all phone lines, the postal service, turn the radio
>and TV spectrum to mush with random noise, and confine everyone to their homes.
>No need to confiscate anything, and arguably easier to acheive (not much
>easier :-) .


Ironically, the reason the coup against Gorby failed because the 
KGB wasn't able to stop the spread of information.  The one major
source of information during that time was fax machines.

The people weren't in the dark and the new government never had a chance
to consolidate its position.

And you have to remember, in order to do this the president would
have to rely on the military to shoot civilians without apparent moral
justification.  US soldiers aren't likely, post Kent State, to shoot
into crowds.  UN doesn't have enough troops to 'take control' in the
US.

Naw, the guy who spouted that drivel is obviously strange.

Rick

-- 
Rick Pavek                       | Never ask a droid to outdo its program.
                                 |           
Seattle, WA                      |   It wastes your time
                                 |          and annoys the droid.  
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From: mvbth@cbnews.cb.att.com (bernard.t.hebert)
Subject: UFO spotted in PA ???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:53:23 GMT


						September 02, 1992

	Hello all,

	 When I returned home from work last night, the wife said she
	heard on the radio that a UFO had been spotted somewhere in 
	Pennsylvania. There wasn't very much to the report she said,
	except an eye-witness who said that it looked like a glowing
	disk seen from edge-on, and it was silent. The eye-witness 
	also said it was "un-earthly".

	 Anyone else hear of anything ?

					Bernie Hebert

					mvbth@cbnews.att.com 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: c8838228@cc.newcastle.edu.au (DO YOU HEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)
Subject: Re: Alien in a bar.
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:14:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.220347.21319@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:
> 
>   A few years ago, I met an alien in a bar. Actually, It was a woman
> claiming to be an alien.
>   She said that she was an incorporeal being from another dimension who
> decided to inhabit a human infant and grow up in our culture. The
> reason for this is that her colleagues were going to destroy the earth
> in 1997 because of mankinds potential to develope interdimensional
> transport (they also think that we are sick and disgusting, no suprise
> there).
>   She is of the opinion that we have some redeming qualities and does
> not want us to be destroyed just yet.
>   Believe it or not, this is not fiction. Has anyone else heard of
> incorporeal biengs in human bodies wanting to destroy the earth?


Sounds kinky to me .
Did you get her number ?

Adios.

Minc.
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: What is Gary Stollman..really?..
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:18:08 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1-an1-g.garys@netcom.com>, garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
> 
> I have a document signed by the clone of my former case manager in
> Tallahassee.  [...]  I am NOT the only one to have clones replace
> my family and friends.  When I spoke to a girl at Florida Junior
> College in 1985 on the inter-terminal talk system on the Plato
> system at FSU, she told me that 7 of her friends and her parents
> had been taken.

1)  If you were replaced by a clone that had all your memories, how can
    you tell?  How do you know YOU'RE not a clone?

2)  How do you know that girl wasn't one of "them"?  How do you know we,
    the posters and readers of this newsgroup, aren't clones?

3)  If you know so much about "them", would it make sense for them to
    allow you to expose them on a public network read by thousands of
    people?

[Serve the above with smileys "al gusto"]
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
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From: mvbth@cbnews.cb.att.com (bernard.t.hebert)
Subject: Curious about authors' background
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 09:33:48 GMT


	Hello all,

	 I have been perusing of late some books by Zecharia Sitchin.
	Have any of you here in Alt.alien.visitors ever heard of this
	person, and read any of his books ?  It is apparent that Mr. Sitchin
	has been schooled in archeology, but I can find no referances as to
	where this has taken place.

	 Mr. Sitchin's theory is that we, the race of humans on Earth, were
	created from some dumb animal about 400,000 to 450,000 years ago.
	We were to mine ore from the Earth and serve the 'gods'. According
	to Mr. Sitchin's theory, these 'gods' were from another planet, and
	the only thing that separated the 'gods' from men was that the 
	'gods' were for all practical purposes, eternal. Their planet has
	an orbit which takes 3600 years to complete one orbit. To them, only
	111 years have passed since they first created us. Barely a spit in
	the bucket of Eternity, so to speak.

	 Mr. Sitchin goes on, through some five or six books, to explain
	his interpretation of ancient writings which support his thesis,
	from Assyrian and Babylonian tablets, to Aztec scripts.

	 I was just curious if anyone else here in NETLAND had found these
	gems yet, read them, as I am doing, and what they think of them.

	 Please write to mvbth@cbnews.cb.att.com with your comments. I really
	do not wish to tie up the NET. Unless otherwise noted, all posts
	will be kept confidential.

						Thank You,
						
						Bernard T. Hebert


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From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: What is Gary Stollman..really?..
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:53:50 GMT
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <92243.225014ROWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ROWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>And if you really must know, Gary Stollman is quite capable of
>handling a firearm. It is a matter of record that he successfully
>held a gun on a television newsman during a live broadcast and forced
>him to read a statement concerning the "alien threat."
>
>To his credit, nobody was hurt.
>-------
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ROWHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU.BITNET~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>!!!!! ROB WALTERS/ EDITOR, SPHERIC (Global Monthly For Humans) !!!!!!!!!!
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oh hell.  Seems like every day we get more dimwitted yokels who discover
Usenet.  And this 'un is from an institute of higher learning, no less!

Perhaps it's time admission requirements were rechecked, and the ability to
form and hold a coherent thought became manditory...


kbq



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