Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia
Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:48:00 EDT
From:         "Carl A. Lahetta" <U952020@RUTADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Homosexuality

> Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:51:20 EDT
> From:         Angela Zimmerman <AMZIMM01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
> Subject:      Homosexuality
> To:           "carl a. lahetta" <U952020>
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> >  This is the tactic Gays are using.  The fact is that there are HOMOSEXUAL
> >  and HETEROSEXUAL pedophiles.  They are not a separate category.  And what
> >  about NAMBLA?  They are Homosexuals that want to do away with age consent
> >  laws so that they can have sex with young boys.  And there are stats that
> >  show most pedophiles are Gay.  I'll be happy to cite the sources tomorrow.
>
>
> NAMBLA?  I've never even heard of them, but from their stance I am fairly
> positive that they are a small minority of all homosexuals.  Stats don't
> really prove much of anything because if I tried hard enough (or had time
> to do it) I could pull some stats out of a reputable source that directly
> contradicted your stats.  That's the beauty of stats.  They can say whatever
> you want them to.

   For the most part yes, stats can be manipulated by how you define what
   you are studying.  Also, they can be manipulated as in the case of stats
   about the percentage of Americans that support abortions.  The media
   reports that, for instance, 60% of Americans support abortions, but they
  forget to tell you the "when the woman's life is in danger" part.  In this
  case the stats are "true" but the reporting is misleading.

> My question is, have you (or anyone on here that is
> denouncing homosexuality as a sin) actually met (knowingly) a gay person?

  Yes, several.

> Have you spent time with that person?  What about a group of gay people?

  Yes I have spent time with them, actually I have worked with them.

> I have -many- gay friends and none of them are the monsters that they
> are made to be here.  The only difference between them and the heterosexual
> people that I know is that they prefer the same sex.  Which brings me to
> another question:  what's the difference between a promiscous heterosexual
> and a promiscous homosexual?

  I am not trying to make them out to be monsters.  As or promiscuity, sin
  is sin no matter who you prefer.  Lora Harris brought up an interesting
  point, and one that I believe, and that is temptation is not sinful.  There
  must be Christians that are tempted to engage in homosexual behavior, but
  that does not make them worse than someone tempted to fornicate in a
  heterosexual relationship.  And this should be obvious, yet it seems that
  some Christians think that it is sinful to be tempted.

  One point that I cannot understand though is how a Christian can be a
  celibate homosexual.  At first when he/she is converted I can understand.
  But for me this term implies that the person has, or is, not trying to\
  change their heart, just their behavior.  Sin is not necessarily limited
  to physical acts, but sin can also be an attitude or belief.  To me it
  would seem as if the Homosexual would ask God to rid them of the desires
  that he/she has.  God is not into only changing behavior, but He is also
  into changing hearts.


Carl-------+