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From: spo@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Sporer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Hard Drive (wierd) Problem - Help!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:25:10 GMT
Organization: University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de

We had the same problem with several discs on PeCe. 
Sometimes it was possible to shift the date of the final dead of the disc
by about 1-2 years by ajusting the little spring in the mid of the wheel.
There is also a small piece of coal, which can be "refreshed" by using
sand paper. But be very, very carefull.

I would recommend to do this "improvements" as late as possible (will
mean: when the disc stopped working), because you can repeat the procedure
only limited times.

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From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: RFD: What to do with comp.binaries.atari.st/comp.sources.atari.st?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 00:11:33 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <1iq2vkINNdqm@golem.wcc.govt.nz> wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>Anti-ST whiners should unsub to c.s.a.st and sub to the amoeba games
>machine group/s!
>
>They're all entitled to their own opinion, but people do go overboard
>the things are only computers for smegs sake!

And you're not going overboard by asking "those people" to leave enitrely?

Dave Baggett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: borgen@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Noest)
Subject: Re: The compatibility story (Falcon & A1200)
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:02:21 GMT

In article <1itud1INNg96@life.ai.mit.edu> psteffn@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Paul Steffen) writes:
>There is no way to disable the new AA [AGA] functions in the 1200.

Say what?
You can chose OCS, ECS, (or best) (O=old,E=Enhanced) to make old software
work if it craps on the new registers.

>  Software
>that changes the wrong bit in the bitplane control registers can still cause
>problems.  It's ironic, though, that Commodore threatens never to release
>another hardware manual, though.  They want people to program "cleanly" but
>this be counterproductive.

I think it is very wise of C=. Then there will not be any way for
programmers to crash when the chips are upgraded. Of course, this depends
on good (and fast) support from the OS.

>>     |  David Oakley,   ASTRAsoft shareware producers.  |\
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#Disclaimer: This university and me does not agree.
From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: A letter to Dave Baggett
	<93010539@ritz.mordor.com><1993Jan6.123352.3450@wg.estec.nl>,<H.ea.T8tPKI2qGqM@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>
	<1iobibINN79q@golem.wcc.govt.nz>
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:45:32 EST

In <1iobibINN79q@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, Steve Wells writes:
> Prism Paint?!  The Cyber-Series!?  CAD-3D!?  Spectrum 512 (a little dated
> but it produces nice pictures)..  True-Paint (Dunno if it's been released
> yet or not).  

None of those (well, other than CAD-3D) are vector packages...  I'd much
rather be using vector formats for my DTP (EPS, GEM, anything).

> If people wanted to run MS-Doze software, they would have purchased
> a 386, not an STE!  Think about it!!

Funny, I've been saying "I'd rather die than buy DOS/Windows."

> Also - did you know that the ST/E's biggest use, is for music!?  
> (You may have noticed those MIDI ports on the side 8-)  Built in as
> standard too!!  As well as those Stereo output sockets on the back of
> the STE<.  And Great software such as Notator, Cu-Base, etc. (Of which
> there's been a lot of rights-swapping lately.)

I've used my MIDI ports about three times in the past seven years...

> Dogs Crawl under fences.... Software crawls under windows....

Which is _exactly_ why I'm looking into OS/2...  I'm not one of the
ignorant masses, I know better.

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From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: Convince me to stick with Atari.
	<1993Jan9.211529.28668@news.th-darmstadt.de>
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:00:24 EST

In <1993Jan9.211529.28668@news.th-darmstadt.de>, Natuerlich! writes:
> In article <H.ea.o3KuEmskWp2@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca writes:
> >I'd like to hear some arguments convincing me to stay with a sinking
> >ship, Atari.
> Why doncha buy a nice Mac and **** off ? If you need convincing the Atari
> is wrong for you.

Wow, that's a great attitude...  And just after I got nice, polite email
from someone citing the Atari user community as one of the reasons to
stay in it...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: STZIP 2.20 - What's the bug?????
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:55:05 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <H.ea.vj9LpjlXySI@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>, craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
>Could the people that have complained here about STZIP 2.0 please reply
> to this message here, and i'll pass replies back onto fidonet.
>
> Please DON'T mail replies.
>
> Thanks,
>   Craig.
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>*  Email: from in NZ - craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz     *


Don't bother with this,  Vincent knows all about this and has managed
to produce this problem, I have talked to him here via E-Mail a few Times...

I can give you his Usenet address..??


Roger...............               sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: Stalker vs Uniterm!
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:37:46 GMT

I used Uniterm for years and then moved to STalker when I
switched to a TT with a 19" monitor. As I write, I have
a window open with 55 lines and about 200 columns using
a standard 10 point font (STalker lets you choose fonts).

The only complaints I have heard about STalker is it runs
in a window and on an SM124 at 640x400 one line is lost
for terminal use; with some applications this is critical.

I use it on an SM124 with a Reflex card (1024x496) on an
old MegaST and it works great there too. I highly
recommend it.

As I write, I am on a digital telephone at 19,200 baud
to a VAX system. ZMODEM transfers to-from the VAX are
a charm with ZMODEM when compared with Kermit via
Uniterm.

Hope this helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson)
Subject: Re: ADVOCACY: Falcon030 competes with '486dx-33
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:16:30 GMT

Warwick Allison (warwick@cs.uq.oz.au) wrote:

} 
} No.  APPLE foces you into using there hardware.  SCSI, RS-232, Centronics -
} all are supported [SCSI not on ST/STe, but they're old, and - like PC's -
} require an extra host adaptor].
} 
} Anyone considering an Apple should look very carefully at this Apple attitude.
} SCSI-yes.  The rest-no.  Even all the cabling is non-standard, and quite
} expensive.  The Apple StyleWriter is basically just a Canon BJ10e, but costs
} more, and can't be used on anything but an Apple.
} 
} Even the Modem port requires an Apple modem... since it is RS-432 [or something
} like that - not RS-232].
} 

Actually, there are a lot of third party companies making hardware that works
with Macintosh computers. I've seen many different non-apple moniters, modems,
printers, and scanners for the Macintosh.

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From: gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell)
Subject: Re: Last time on this one
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:58:07 GMT

In article <1ich3hINN9il@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>You are right there, Darek is not level headed when it comes to Atari.
>
>He HATES Atari.  I once spoke with him at an Atari show and the only
>reason he was there was to convert Atari users to clones.

I think I can shed some light on why Darek hates Atari so much.

A couple of months ago, after some angry posts here from Darek, I asked
what Atari had done to him.  In an e-mail reply (which I will NOT post :-) ),
he explained that the problem dated back to the days when he was working
in the XFORMER 8-bit emulator.  Atari refused to let him sell it with the
BIOS chips (I believe he said they wouldn't sell the chips to him in the
first place).  Darek was less than pleased with this action, and thus began
his personal vendetta against Atari Corp.

While I think that Darek has over-reacted a bit to this action by Atari,
(Dave Small's relations with Apple seem much better Darek and Atari's)
I accept the fact that he feels that Atari did him wrong, and nothing
any of us say is going to change that.

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From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Last time on this one
Date: 10 Jan 1993 07:33:20 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <1iobpvINN79q@golem.wcc.govt.nz> wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>> OS/2 2.x?  NeXTstep '486 (when it comes out)?
>
>And what are the minimum system requirements for that!?  How much RAM
>does it Need!?

A losing argument.  No one complains that the ST's TOS requires more
than 4K of RAM, but in 1978 it would have been a real problem.
Likewise, one or two megs is no big deal now that SIMM prices are so
low.  You will sound sillier with every passing month.

>And doesn't NEED a Hard Drive to run!!  

Big deal.  Get a hard drive anyway.  They're cheap.

>OS/2 and windows are HUGE

Huge by 1985 (ST creation date) standards, maybe.  Not by "real OS"
standards.  You really have to try using a real OS sometime before you
pass judgement on these things.

>and VERY expensive

That's a GOOD one.  $50 is *real* tough to manage for an OS, yeah.

>the ST's operating system
>comes built in - you don't have to pay for it!

Right, and consequently you have to pay $75 to upgrade the OS.  That
is, every 3 years when they fix the pending 100 bugs in TOS.

>MS-Doze is the standard on IBM clones, and it is VERY under-productive!

What, exactly, do you DO with your ST that would be so much more
unproductively done on a PC?  And in terms of calls, TOS is more
minimal than DOS is.  And there IS no CLI for the ST, as far as Atari
is concerned.  Only the (snicker) GEM desktop.

Dave Baggett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mh1@irz213.inf.tu-dresden.de (Michael Hohmuth)
Subject: Re: Gemini and MiNT?
Reply-To: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:43:18 GMT


In article <1992Dec30.180226.22904@unislc.uucp>, tevans@unislc.uucp (Terry Evans) writes:

>     I just downloaded the recent version of Gemini and I was wondering
> if it is able to run with MiNT.  Could somebody please let me know
> if it is.

Yes it is. It runs well with MiNT, but Mupfel, Gemini's shell, does not yet
support MiNT's features. (From what I gather from the Mausnet's Gemini
newsgroup, the next version will.)

Vincent Partington asked which is the newest version of Gemini and he can
get it from. The last released version is 1.21, it should be on
atari.archive.umich.edu.

Michael
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:19257 comp.sys.laptops:4882 misc.forsale.computers:44817 misc.forsale.computers.other:1399
From: uesu03@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Lou Glassy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: Grid 1810 Laptop + Atari 520 ST for sale
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:24:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT

Two boxes for sale (hopefully together!) :-)

   Grid 1810 Laptop
      NEC V20 processor, 10Mhz
      1 Meg RAM
      20 Meg internal (removable cartridge) hard drive
      EGA 640x400 monochrome LCD screen
      internal 2400-baud Hayes-compatible modem
      DOS v3.3 in ROM.

   A good little beastie; bought it last spring, and have used
   it as a terminal to connect to *nix workstations at school.  

   Atari 520ST
      68000 processor
      1 Meg RAM
      1 STM1 mouse
      2 SF354 SSDD 3.5" floppy drives
      1 SM124 640x400 monochrome monitor
        + misc Atari manuals

   Used to be main iron at home... got replaced with a Mac, then
   Grid.  Time to clean out the cupboards, and save up for a
   Unix box :-)

   Prices -- $350 for Grid (alone)
             $150 for Atari (alone)
             $425 takes both ...

Please contact me via email if you're interested.  I'd really like to 
sell *both* of these, so ... 

Lou. 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: stuff it
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:06:01 GMT

RE: posting Darek's note on the net, that fool and his constant bitching
both deserve to be exposed on the net. Anyone else (including guys like
Daniel Eriksson) who think otherwise should take a hike. I have had it with
Darek and other fools like him. Darek - stay in the PC interest group and
stay out of the Atari interest group. I, and many others, are tired of
your crap.

BTW, I'll gladly repost anyone's private mail if they attack me for
my net comments. Take that as a warning if you want to send me a nasty
note!!!
From: anneklin@acs.bu.edu (Patricia Anne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Looking for a function...
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:31:16 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


Way back in the "good old days" before GCC took over all the HD real
estate I seem to be able to find, I used HSC and a hacked version of
dLibs.

For a long time now, I've been tinkering with a small/fast variant on
Dan Conroy's original MicroEmacs that was hacked for dLibs, converting
it to ANSI C and GCC and such, and as a result find myself needing an
equivalent of the dLibs fullpath().

For those of you not in the know, fullpath() would take a non-absolute
filespec (".\wombat.txt", "\frob\foo\lump\minor.mad", whatever) and
return to you an absolute pathname--that wonderful long thing with
drive spec and all that's such hell to type.

Now I've been looking through the GCC libraries, and the closest thing
I've found is _dos2unix() and its variants.  My question is, does that
actually resolve relative or incomplete pathspecs to be "canonical",
or does it just flip the path separators.

The answer to this question, plus any pointers on its use would be
much appreciated.  I've got the source, it's just a little
more...involved than I care to get right at this particular moment.

Thanks,
From: hmallat@robin.cs.hut.fi (Hannu Mallat ~ PurpleHaze!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Editor???
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:05:26 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: robin.cs.hut.fi

In <1993Jan7.142811.20499@fwi.uva.nl> storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C. Storm (I89)) writes:

>I'm currently looking for a good editor for my atari.
>It has to save in ascii unlike 1st word does. If anybody
>knows which editor is good for that and where I can get it, I 
>will appreciate your help greatly.`

>Richard

I'd like to have an editor that can format C sources like Emacs does.
I know there is Emacs for MiNT, but I'd like to use something smaller,
and I don't want to run MiNT every time I do a bit of C. 2 megs of
memory is good for nothing nowadays...
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From: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Greg Patten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Setting up the RS232 in Sozobon
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:28:52 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Originator: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU

The subject line says it all really. I have found some src (eg tip
for MiNT by Howard Chu and some Un*x stuff) but it always seems to
rely on some struct (like the one defined in xbios.h (?) which isn't
included in the new sozo mint include stuff).

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm new to programming
and I don't really have much documention.

Also, is there new docs for the mint dlibs or is it a case of 'use the 
source'?

Many thanks,

Greg.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: A letter to Dave Baggett
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:24:10 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:

> In <1993Jan6.123352.3450@wg.estec.nl>, wim vleeshhouwer writes: 
> 
> > With good quality software I suppose you mean allthe crap that is
> > being produced for these braindead machines like Windows and the like.
> > Who the hell needs all that crap anyway. And by the way, the argument
> > that there is lots of SW available for PC's, so what, most users only
> > use a WordProcessor (like this shit product called WordPerfect) and
> > maybe Lotus, so what is the use of so much software? If you don't know
> > what you are talking about, then shut up. I am more than tired of the
> > bullshit going around about PC's.
> 
> No, he means _real_ operating systems, like OS/2.  You know, that
> multi-tasking, multi-threading OS from IBM?  The one that does better
> DOS than DOS?
 
 Hahahahahahahahahaha ... now here is the beST laugh I have had all day.
 Windows 3.01 or the new NT would win that race not os/2 .
 
> 
> The ST has some good software, but the clones have TONNES of good
> software, and some GREAT software.  Where is CorelDRAW! or MicroGrafix
> Designer for the ST?  Well, I could use Avaunt-Vektor, which costs about
> 3x-4x what they cost, and that's about it... so much for choosing the
> best one, right?  Good word processor that doesn't take over the whole
> screen when it runs?  Hmm, can't think of one...  Hope all the word
> processor users on the ST don't want to use MultiTOS.
> 
> Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, I think I'm going to buy a
> '486 and run OS/2.  It's almost like unix, but with real applications...
 
 Chris you are in for a BIG suprise if you really mean this! Take it from
 me. I run OS/2 , Windows and BCD Unix (and the ST) here and OS/2 is the
 DOG of the lot. Get Windows NT it is 1000 time better (when it is
 released).
 
 Mind you it has taken years for the clone (other pc based OS's) markets
 to even catch up with the ST (read all versions) market.
 
 Look at Flash for instance.  It was not until ProComm for Windows was
 released was there anything like Flash and look how long this has been
 around!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Stalker vs Uniterm!
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:40:14 GMT

Hi, Craig!

In article <7JAN93.12374686@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
>I used Uniterm for years and then moved to STalker when I
>switched to a TT with a 19" monitor. As I write, I have
>a window open with 55 lines and about 200 columns using
>a standard 10 point font (STalker lets you choose fonts).

This is probably the biggest problem with Uniterm; if you've got a big
screen, it can't take advantage.  Of course, that's not what it was
designed for.

>The only complaints I have heard about STalker is it runs
>in a window and on an SM124 at 640x400 one line is lost
>for terminal use; with some applications this is critical.

I've also played around with CoNNect; it works VERY similarly to
STalker.  They're highly competitive, having surprisingly similar
features.  If CoNNect could run as a desk accessory, it would be hard
to tell them apart.

CoNNect does better VTxxx terminal emulations, and is able to handle
virtually everything up to a VT220.  I've used some nasty applications
under it like GNU-Emacs, that takes the termcap virtually to its
limit, and never had a problem.

STalker isn't as good in this category.  The best that you can get is
an "ANSI" terminal emulation.

>I use it on an SM124 with a Reflex card (1024x496) on an
>old MegaST and it works great there too. I highly
>recommend it.

STalker IS good; and the fact that I (and probably Craig) know the
authour has nothing to do with it.

>As I write, I am on a digital telephone at 19,200 baud
>to a VAX system. ZMODEM transfers to-from the VAX are
>a charm with ZMODEM when compared with Kermit via
>Uniterm.

For those of us that HAVE to use Kermit, Uniterm is still the program
of choice.

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