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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: DOVE Awards Winners Summary
Followup-To: rec.music.christian
Reply-To: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:54:53 GMT

Anyone out there connected in any way to the Dove awards?  You don't
have to admit it - just PLEASE take a word of advice back to the folks
running the show.  Drop the jokes - I have watched the awards for 2-3 yrs 
now (since TNN started showing them and advertising them) and love
the music, the thank yous, but am embarassed at the very least, and
offended in some cases, by the jokes that are used.  Last nite
was probably the worst - to have Danny White read jokes whose taste was
questionable was the last straw.
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From: clopton5107@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: more dance music talk
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:19:51 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        I'll defend Painted Orange as beign good dance music.  Although I will
concede that I was disapointd in the album they did for Star Song.  I have a
demo I bought at C'Stone 90 that I like better than the Star Song CD.  I do
like the CD, although I prefer the tape.
        I will not defend Chucky p. and Heather and Kiersten beyond saying that
I listed them as playable because I know other people who like them, and
because if one way workign with, for example, certain junior high crowds, that
type of stuff might work.  Personally, I don't like it, but as a D.J. it isn't
your job to like anything.
        I doubt that any Scott Blackwell will see vynil.  To my knowledge
Frontline records hasn't had anything to do with vynil for years (Myx records
is Scott's lablem and is a new division of Frontline).  However, the good news
for vynil junkies is that SLAVA was talking about pressing some of their
artists on vynil, specifically for DJ's.  That talk was a while back, and I
have heard nothing about it recently.  
        I find it interesting that the Christian industry shed vynil even
before the secular market did.  My personal guess is that because the market
was smaller, the lables simply couldn't afford the diversification.  However, I
wonder if there is just some demographic foctor about people who buy CCM that
makes them buy tapes and CD's.
        I jsut did a dance at my church on Friday.  Great success, except I
sort of burned the crowd out by not playing any slow songs for like the first
hour and a half.  I've always got this fear that if I play slow songs the whole
dance will turn into this big pagan firtility rite the way my old shcool dances
did.  Do any of you other DJ's have this fear, or problem?
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: gclapp@javelin.sim.es.com (Glenn Clapp)
Subject: Phil Driscoll
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:16:29 GMT


Last week, I picked up Phil Driscoll's "Warriors" CD.  In general, it
is pretty good.  Lots of horns with a great bluesy sound.  The only
thing I am disappointed in is the recording quality.  First off, it is
a live album, second the vocals and acoustic instruments seem a little
"distant" and in general the recording is "echoy."  However, I really
like all the tracks.

Now, the question (FINALLY).

Does Phill Driscoll have a studio album with all or many of the same
tracks as are on his "Warriors" album?  If so, is it a better recording?

Thanks in advance,

Glenn
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From: tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Music for Glad Acapella? and other Glad stuff
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:09:13 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems (UK) Ltd., Winchester, UK.


Many thanks to all who responded with info about Glad's "The Acapella
Project" music books and studio sheets.

I think I will get the SATB book first, and perhaps splash out for a
studio sheet for specific songs later.

Thanks again.

Tony.
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From: nestorak@eregion.endor.cs.psu.edu (John  Nestoriak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Survey results
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:48:29 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

Here are the results from the unofficial (and highly unscientific) survey
of the rec.music.christian readers.  With 30 responses:

Average age: 22
Occupation : 25 student (83%) 5 non student

Favorite style of music:  Rock was the only category with over 3 responses (
             had 14) others: industrial, rap, alternative, jazz etc.
Medium of music purchased: CD     - 24
                           tape   - 10
                           record - 2

Average number of Christian albumns purchased each month: 2
Average amount spent: $21

50% listen to Christian radio - many others idicated they had none available
They listen an average of 9 hours a week.

Everyone who responded attends Christian concerts.  They average 3 a year and
spend $30.

12 (40%) watch Christian videos though others indicated they had no ability
to do so (no cable, no tv, no vcr).  Those who do watch videos only do so for
an average of 1 hour a week.

22 responded that they listen to non Christian music.  Those who purchase non
Christian albumns average 2 a month and spend $24.

25 responded that they do not attend non Christian concerts.  Those who do 
average 3 concerts a year and spend $50.  

Only 9 responded that they watch non Christian videos.

Overall the respondants averaged 33% of their day listening to music.  An 
average of about 5% of their earnings are spent on music (this is slightly
skewed since many of the students have low earnings and therefore spend a high
percentage).


Hope this is interesting to you all.  I found most interesing that the
biggest distinction we make between Christian and nonChristian music is
in concert attendance.  What do you all make of that?


John
From: rjb3@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.j.brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Amy Grant
Summary: logic flaw?
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:21:54 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr3.220813.9448@leland.Stanford.EDU>, yorrick@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Lincicome) writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.165750.19203@acsu.buffalo.edu> v083mcu9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JAK) writes:
> >
> >  [ WONDERFUL STUFF ABOUT AMY - DELETED ]
> >  This is coming from an essentially 
> >atheist.  My parents are Buddhist so that by default makes me Buddhist, but
> >I'm beginning to look into this Christianity.  
> >
> 
> I told myself I wouldn't say anything on this subject, but...
> 
> Anyone who says Amy has sold out to secular radio ought to read this twice.  
> Good stuff, here.
> 
> Forever in His Care,
> 
> 	greg
> 

Greg, 

I have no problem with Amy's career, but what I infer from your post
is "The End Justifies the Means."  Of course, we want to see people
saved, but the fact that a certain behavior brings interest to our
message does not automatically make it correct in, and of itself.

Bobby - akgua!rjb
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: gerhard@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Gerhard Fohler)
Subject: Re: Amy Grant
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:16:27 GMT


What about forming a group rec.music.christian.is_amy_christian.


I'm sick of this regular flames.

Gerhard
From: wpg30940@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William P. Glick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: What are the dates for Cornerstone?
Summary: When is Cornerstone?
Keywords: cornerstone
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:28:13 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


Someone mentioned the Cornerstone Music Festival a few notes back.

I was wanting to know the exact dates of the festival and the address of 
the promoters.  I know the concert is usually around the 4th of July for
3 or 4 days and is in central Illinois.

Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.
      
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From: jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman)
Subject: Re:Jesus Music 
Organization: University of Virginia
Ireallyam: jmb5b
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:39:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.121700.18592@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA) writes:
>
>>     Second Chapter of Acts:
>>                    TO THE BRIDE (w/BARRY McGUIRE, Myrrh 1975)
>
>I have this one, but no way will I give it up!  What I will do, however,
>is:  *IF* you can get written permission from Myrrh, (are they still in
>business?  If not, get permission from somebody with the authority to give
>it) I will make you a copy.  Hey, I'll make a copy for anyone who can get
>permission.  Whether that's feasible or not, I don't know, but it's the
>best I can do. :-)  Ain't gonna get me breaking no copyright laws, uh-uh!
I already replied on e-mail, but I'm wondering if anyone out there can answer a question I`ve wondered about for a while.  What about copying stuff that's out of print?  Since it's not stealing royalties, is it bad?  I don't like
to copy anything, but I havemade exceptions occasionally in the past on some of my out of print stuff.  Question-is this bad?  I don't do it anymore, but I was
wondering if anyone ould help me with my little moral quandary here.
 
are 2nd Chapter, Larry Norman, Keith Green, and Barry McGuire,
>>as well as Jamie Owens-Collins, Honeytree and others.  So, how about it--
>>any others out there who can relate?  
>
>Absolutely!  Of course, I'm a tad older than you...I remember these
>when they first came out.  Sometimes I feel like such a fossil. :-)

I feel like a fossil sometimes too, and I'm only 22!  It's really hard to find people my age who've even HEARD of this stuff!    It's great to find some people
who at least understand what I`m talking about, no matter what the age.
Ok, I know there must be SOME younger Jesus-freak types out there who can relate here.  Or am I just out of touch with the times.  Actually, listening to some
Jeus music from 20 years ago, it seems more in touch with today than
some of the modern Christian music.  Just an observation.
     Roberta, I liked your Annie Herring quote, so I'll close with another:

        "So if you've been wastin' your time on religions of the mind,
         turn your back on the blind, and open your eyes while there's
         still time.  Cause He's waiting for you to look at the truth
         and not to believe what you hear from the soothsayers who say
         that Jesus is dead--well, they`re just lyin', tryin' to mess 
         up your head!"
From "Grinding Stone" off "Through a Child's Eyes" and "How the West Was One."
I put it in prose cause I did know where the line breaks went.
               Oh, well, 'nuff said there.  Lots of new stuff is great,
         but Jesus music really miniters to me.  Any replies?

In Christ,
Michelle Carpick                              ONE WAY!!!!!

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: ras@controls.ccd.harris.com (Russell Soule)
Subject: Great Big Stupid World info
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:38:44 GMT
Organization: Body of Christ

Hello all,

Last Saturday, our Christian radio station here in East Central FL (WMIE) was
playing its two hours of rock music for the week, and we heard this *GREAT*
song called (I think) "It's a Great Big Stupid World" by (I think) Bruce
Carrol. It had some very funny lyrics about our worldy world. I remember
lines saying something like "If Jesus came back today we'd book him on
the Oprah Winfrey show", and "We're making plastic surgeons millionaires
so that everyone can look like Cher". 

Can someone please list all of the lyrics to this song, and give the author/
performer, and the album it was released on? Both my wife and I thought that
it sounded like REM, and I like REM's sound, but I'm not sure about their
reputation. If the rest of the album with "Great Big...." on it sounds like
that then I just might buy it.

Thanks in advance,
God bless you and keep you,

Russ Soule

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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: mdk34398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike "The Beak" Krupicka)
Subject: Re: Music Clubs (repost)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:44:45 GMT

tblake@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Tom Blake) writes:
>Another source for mail-order music that wasn't mentioned in the list is
>"True Tunes".  True Tunes appears to be the music department of a
>Christian book store.  Unfortunately, I keep forgetting to bring in
>their catalog/newsletter "True News".

Actually True Tunes is a division of Wheaton Religous Gifts. But they
more or less run their own show. (They are in seperate store, etc.)

>The folks at "True Tunes" seem to be well versed in secular and
>spiritual music, and can suggest spiritual bands that have similar
>styles to secular bands.  ("Your friend likes `The Family Dog'?  Well,
>maybe he would like `Crossed Over'.)

John and Chris probably know the most there.

>If anyone has their number handy, please post it, if not, *maybe* I'll
>remember to bring it in one of these days.

210 W. Front St.
Wheaton, IL 60187
(708) 665-FUNN

>P.S.  I have no affiliation with "Chrisian Book + Supply" or "True
>Tunes", I am only a satisfied customer.  I doubt they'd even recognize
>my name if you mentioned it.  ;-)

I'm not affiliated with True Tunes, but they will recognize my name. (They
are great friends)
From: thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Dove Awards - Really Embarrassing!
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 21:51:30 EDT
Organization: MultiVac23, Newark, DE, U.S.A.

dledelen@wheaton.edu (Daniel Lane Edelen) writes:
>    1} Bad miking - Rachel Rachel and others suffered from really crummy
> sound due to mic levels being wrong.
>    4} Sync - It seemed every time someone announced the nominees the
> graphics people got ahead, or totally switched the names around, or perfomed
> some other act of video cruelty. Really sad.

The program was live, so there were certain sections (lots, really)
that couldn't be practiced ahead of time.  The only folks (technical)
that I know of that can pull off live stuff consistantly are the
folks who do sports like football, baseball, etc.  They are USED to
working on live events.  The folks who do awards shows are typically
not folks who do sports, so they are very inexperienced with doing
live productions.  ALL the awards shows look pretty bad technically.

> hair poofing out all over. And to Kim Hill - please never wear an outfit like
> that again; it had "cheap hooker" written all over it. 

Why?  Did it show cleavage?  Was it too short?  Are Christians not allowed
to show that they are sexual beings too?

                         - tom
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From: gideon@cs.utexas.edu (Timothy Tin-Wai Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Sounds of Praise
Date: 6 Apr 1992 12:07:16 -0500
Organization: University of Texas at Austin, Dept. of Computer Sciences
Distribution: world
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          Praise our God, O peoples,
            let the sound of his praises be heard; ......
          that your ways may be known on earth,
            your salvation among all nations.
                                                   (Psalms 66:8,67:2)

     On Saturday night I attended a Chinese musical event.  No, there weren't
any famous musicians or singers.  There were only about 100 people there.  Yet
it was very special.
     It was an evangelical event with a choir of about 20 men and women, mostly
in their thirties and forties, filled with testimonies and praise songs.  The
special thing is: most of the choir members were from mainland China.
     Before they began, the conductor got up and said, "There is a sound that
people do not have the chance to listen to very much.  It is the sound of
praises to God.  Tonight we want to sing to you the sounds of praise.  Many of
us in this choir, being from mainland China, have never ever heard that kind
of sound back in China until they came to Christ here.  Now they're singing the
sounds of praise to you.  We may not sing very well, and in fact, we may sing
real poorly, but it is the words and the heart that counts."
     It was wonderful.  Many people came to Christ that night.  It was simply
amazing to see what kind of freedom they've found.


Timothy Chan

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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Amy Grant
Summary: A disney song says it all
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:07:38 GMT

I think a classic Disney song says a great deal about Heart in Motion and other
albums like it throughout musicdom:

	"Just a spoonfull of sugar helps the medicine go down ..."

-- Topher


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From: bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Bill Wilhelmi)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:41:30 GMT
Subject: Re: "Eve of Destruction"
Organization: Interstate 5
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

/ hpcvlx:rec.music.christian / anderson@cs.rose-hulman.edu. (Claude W. Anderson) /  5:33 am  Apr  3, 1992 /
In article <1992Apr2.234716.19092@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman) writes:
> In article <107410143@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)  
> writes:

> BTW, does anyone know what Barry is up to these days?

I saw him in Salem, Oregon last December.  He did a Christmas concert with
Terry and Wendy Talbot at New Hope Community Church.  He is still doing
concerts.  

Bill Wilhelmi
 
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From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA)
Subject: Re: Records/tapes wanted
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.035937.10371@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman) writes:

>I'm wondering if anyone can help me out  Even though I am only 22 yers old, it 
>seems my forite type of music is old Jesus music from the seventies and some 
>from the early eighties  Needless to say, most of what I like is out of print.
>I was wondering if anyone out there has any of the following albums they 
>would be interested in selling for a reasonable price.  I have looking for
>these for ages, and have been unable to locate them as yet  Oh well, here's the
>list:
>     Second Chapter of Acts:
>                    TO THE BRIDE (w/BARRY McGUIRE, Myrrh 1975)

I have this one, but no way will I give it up!  What I will do, however,
is:  *IF* you can get written permission from Myrrh, (are they still in
business?  If not, get permission from somebody with the authority to give
it) I will make you a copy.  Hey, I'll make a copy for anyone who can get
permission.  Whether that's feasible or not, I don't know, but it's the
best I can do. :-)  Ain't gonna get me breaking no copyright laws, uh-uh!

>favorites are 2nd Chapter, Larry Norman, Keith Green, and Barry McGuire,
>as well as Jamie Owens-Collins, Honeytree and others.  So, how about it--
>any others out there who can relate?  

Absolutely!  Of course, I'm a tad older than you...I remember these
when they first came out.  Sometimes I feel like such a fossil. :-)
(Dave, if you're reading this, no comments!!  Get back to your thesis!)

BTW, if anybody is on a budget and hasn't bought all of Keiths' stuff
on the Ministry Years collections, I have a few of his records I'd be
glad to send off to a good home...Music this good, it seems a shame to
have it sitting around not being listened to, but now that I've got it
on CD, the vinyl just gathers dust.

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AT&T Bell Laboratories | But I'm asking you, when are you gonna listen?
Whippany, NJ           | You say I never sing about anyone but Jesus
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From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Larry Norman - heart attack?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:08:01 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Okay, I read all the articles that were at my site this morning,
and nobody mentioned this.  I heard in church yesterday that Larry
had a major heart attack within the last couple of days.  The person
who told us said he had heard it on a local ccm radio show;  the dj,
though he belongs to my church, wasn't there, or I would have asked
him for more info.

So - can anybody confirm or (hopefully!) refute this story?  And
until/unless we hear something definite, can we all keep him and
his loved ones in our prayers?  Actually, even if he's okay, it
never hurts to pray for someone. :-)


Roberta Taylor KB2OOA  | You let me sing a song for you every now and then,
AT&T Bell Laboratories | But I'm asking you, when are you gonna listen?
Whippany, NJ           | You say I never sing about anyone but Jesus
rlt@gummo.att.com  <>< | Well, that's because Jesus is my song. ---Anne Herring