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From: fritz@cs.tu-berlin.de (nobody)
Subject: Format a DEC SCSI disk under SunOs
Summary: Help needed
Keywords: SCSI, DEC
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:49:59 GMT

When trying to re-format a DEC DSP5200S SCSI disk under SunOs 4.1.2 the 
following behaviour was observed

1) the format program 
        a) produced the message "No sense error during mode select."
   and  b) hangs completely (kill -9 doesn't work)

2) vmunix produced the message "sd4c: Vendor 'DEC' error 0x26".

After reboot the disk label had to be restored but the disk was still 
formatted. Concerning 2) I agree with the opinion a) of the format program.
Not wanting to join the format program in the other point I need some
information about what could have gone wrong. - Any idea (i. e. what 26 means)?



Some details of the configuration follow:

The host is an SUN IPC with an S-Bus card for the SCSI-2 Bus to which the disk
is conntected.

I tried several variations of the following format.dat entry,  so I don't think
that the entry was the reason for the failure,  however i can not completly
exclude this so I present the entry here:

disk_type = "DEC DSP5200S" \
        : ctlr = SCSI \
        : ncyl = 2613 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2619 : nhead = 21 : nsect = 71 \
        : rpm = 3600 : bpt = 36352

partition = "DEC DSP5200S, c only" \
        : disk = "DEC DSP5200S" : ctlr = SCSI \
        : c = 0, 3904929

which was computed from the following information:

1) the output of 'dkinfo sd4' :

        sd4: Emulex MD21 controller at addr fa800000, unit # 24
        2619 cylinders 21 heads 71 sectors/track
        a: No such device or address
        b: No such device or address
        c: 3904929 sectors (2619 cyls)
           starting cylinder 0
        d: No such device or address
        e: No such device or address
        f: No such device or address
        g: No such device or address
        h: No such device or address

2) some items of the functional specification of the disk drive

        Interface:              SCSI
        Tracks per surface:     2620
        Surfaces per drive:     21
        Sectors per track:      71
        Sector capacity:        512 Bytes
        Rotational speed:       3,600 RPM




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        Fritz Nuernberg         fritz@cs.tu-berlin.de
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From: jbryans@beach.csulb.edu (Jack Bryans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.elm,comp.mail.misc,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NFS mounting /var/spool/mail && file locking
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:30:51 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

How do those using a shared mail spool mount it?  We've had few problems
w/hard mount for the past two years, but a recent network glitch equivalent
to yanking the ethernet cable from the back of our mail server was a
disaster for the entire net, what w/comsat leaving most users thinking the
machine was hung up.  A ton of abandoned processes left idle machines w/load
levels of 8 and more.

So, how do you mount your mail spool -- soft, intr, or what?

Thanks,
Jack
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: styri@hal.nta.no (Haakon Styri)
Subject: format.dat entry wanted
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 13:25:31 GMT

Need the format.dat entries for a:

	WREN 94171-350

Thanks in advance...

---
Haakon Styri
Norwegian Telecom Research
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: sacks@netmgr.mot.com (Dennis Sacks)
Subject: Email address or phone # for Opus (sparc clone company)
Keywords: Opus
Reply-To: sacks@netmgr.mot.com
Organization: Motorola New Enterprises
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:18:10 GMT

Does anyone know the phone number or email address for Opus, the sparc clone
maker?


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Problem with NIS (ypbind) with subnetted in
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:08:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.155512.13421@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>In article 18054@dxcern.cern.ch, ben@dxcern.cern.ch (Ben Segal) writes:
>>	 As soon as ypbind is started, it fails immediately with the
>>	 error message  "ypbind:  can't register tcp service".
>
>Are you running the subnettet clients with 'ypbind -ypset; ypset <server>' ?

*Never*, repeat, *NEVER* use "-ypset". This allows root on *any* system which
can figure out your NIS domain name and talk to your client, to tell your
client to start using it as the NIS server instead. This would then have your 
system using someone else's passwd map, which might, for example, include a 
root entry with no password.

If you must use ypset, start ypbind with the "-ypsetme" option instead. This 
allows the ypset request to succeed only from root on the local system. But
authentication is based on IP addresses, which can be spoofed.

To clarify: let's say you have system A as the NIS server and system B as
the client, bound to system A. There's a Nasty Person Out There on system X. 
If you start ypbind on B with "-ypset", root on X can tell B to start using X 
as the NIS server. With "-ypsetme", only a request issued by root on B (or a
system which ypbind on B *thinks* is B) will succeed.

If someone breaks into root on B they can still issue it, but if they've done 
that, you've got a lot more important things to worry about.

>If not --> man ypset.

Better read "man ypbind" as well. The hole described above is described there 
too, but has not been documented in the ypset man page.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston)
Subject: Format.dat entry for Micropolis 1598 1.2 G
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:40:50 GMT

Help,
  I'm looking a format.dat entry for a micropolis 1598 1.2 G drive.
  Please Help.


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************************      Don't just do it!     ***********************
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de (Joachim Wiesel)
Subject: Re: Problem with NIS (ypbind) with subnetted in
Reply-To: wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: IPF, University of Karlsruhe
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:55:12 GMT

In article 18054@dxcern.cern.ch, ben@dxcern.cern.ch (Ben Segal) writes:
>Here's a real strange one: anyone seen it before?
>
>At CERN we are about to convert one of our IP networks (UltraNet) to
>appear as a subnet of our main Class B Ethernet. A number of machines have
>interfaces on both UltraNet and Ethernet, and they are clients of a NIS
>server out on the Ethernet, i.e. they run ypbind. All works fine EXCEPT
>for the following problem:
>
>Case 1:  ypbind is running when Ultra is brought up. In this case, the
>	 Ultra startup script does not complete properly: it hangs for ever
>	 at the point where the unet0 device is being ifconfig'd,
>	 apparently due to broken communication with NIS (ypserv).
>	 In fact at this point, all communication on the Class B net
>	 remains impossible until UltraNet is put down again, or else
>	 reconfigured to be NOT a subnet of the Ethernet.
>
>Case 2:  ypbind is not running when Ultra is brought up, i.e. all the
>	 host/network/... info is in local tables. In this case the
>	 UltraNet comes up perfectly, and all subnetting works fine.
>	 BUT:
>	 As soon as ypbind is started, it fails immediately with the
>	 error message  "ypbind:  can't register tcp service".
>

Are you running the subnettet clients with 'ypbind -ypset; ypset <server>' ?

If not --> man ypset.

>NOTES:
>      -- This only happens if unet0 is SUBNETTED off the Class B net.
>	 The actual subnet mask used is 0xffffffc0 if that's of interest.

This seems to confirm my assumption ...

Joachim



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Universitaet  Karlsruhe, Englerstr. 7, D-7500 Karlsruhe, Germany
Phone: +49 721 608 2316                      Fax: +49 721 694 568
Internet: wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: muegel@rtsg.mot.com (Michael S. Muegel)
Subject: Your favorite backup tool
Reply-To: mmuegel@mot.com
Organization: Corporate Computer Services & Support, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:31:43 GMT

We are transitioning some Sun servers to a support group and would like
a more GUI-oriented backup tool for them to use. Does anyone have any 
recommendations? $$ is not really a problem.

Thanks!
-Mike

-- 
Michael S. Muegel <mmuegel@mot.com>
UNIX Applications Startup Group
Corporate Computer Services and Support
Motorola, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ameyer@cbnews.cb.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Subject: Re: xterm and dos2unix question
Reply-To: ahm@hoqas2.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:12:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin

In comp.sys.sun.admin, bouton@gertrude.cms.udel.edu writes:
[...]
> QUESTION: can i set up a pipe in xterm that will do this for me ie
> xterm -l -lf dos2unix in.log out.log
> what i want is just a log file with no ^m.
> 
> i know this isn't right - i can't get it to work -
> but something like it?  the man page does mention a -lf pipe possibility

Try this:
 
xterm -l -lf '| tr -d "\015" > XtermLog.$$'
 
The $$ prevents the file from being over-written if you run more than
one xterm session in this way. ($$ becomes the process number).
 
Cheers,
Andy
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  --==----    AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ        ..!att!hoqas2!ahm
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From: bak@bak.kodak.COM (Bruce A. Kern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,ek.programming
Subject: Poblem with .openwin -init
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:12:25 GMT
Reply-To: bak@bak.kodak.COM (Bruce A. Kern)
Organization: Office Imaging Division, Eastman Kodak Co.

I have a customer running OpenWindows 3.0 an a Sparc loaded with SunOS 4.1.2.
When the user logs in the .openwin-init file contains a command:

/usr/scanner/bin/ss_controlX Scanner1 -Wp 90 118 -Ws 638 516 -WP 130 0
-Wi -Wg &

The process being started complains about a bad command line and issues
its usage
message.  Note that the arguments following Scanner1, "-Wp 90..." are
for the OpenLook window manager so that it can control the screen geometry.

When the same command is executed from the command-line the command
parsing procedes normally and the process starts up nicely.  I have
never seen this problem with OpenWindows 3.0 and SunOS 4.1.1 and do not
have a 4.1.2 system available to try it out on.

Has anyone seen this?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.


=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
+=+=+=+=+
Bruce A. Kern					(716) 726-6700
Eastman Kodak Company				Bruce_Kern@Kodak.COM
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
+=+=+=+=+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson)
Subject: Re: NIS make errors (SOLVED)
Organization: NASA/GSFC Laboratory for Terrestrial Physics
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:51:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.133711.21916@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (_c'est_moi_) writes:
|> I'm an NIS novice, so please be gentle with me.  When I try to make the
|> netgroups map, I get some errors:
|> 
|> # cd /var/yp
|> # make netgroup
|> updated netgroup
|> bind_to_server clntudp_create error: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out
|> bind_to_server clntudp_create error: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out
|> Can't build server list from map "ypservers".  Reason:  unknown NIS client
|> error code.
|> *** Error code 1
|> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `netgroup.time'
|> 
|> Both ypserv and ypbind are running.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  TIA.
|> 

I fixed the problem by re-running ypinit -m and allowing it to remove the
existing /var/yp/`domainname`.  There's still a great deal I don't understand
about NIS (heck, my ignorance is encyclopedic), but if it's working who cares? 
Thanks to all who responded.
-- 
Karl A. Anderson		| Internet: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov
NASA/GSFC code 920.2 (HSTX)	| voice: (301) 286-3815
Greenbelt, MD 20771		| #include "std_disclaimer"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: paul@allink.com (paul reiber)
Subject: LOOKING FOR: Sun equivalent of BRKBOX.COM software breakout box.
Summary: need PD software breakout box.
Keywords: Sun Zilog Software Breakout Box
Organization: NYNEX ALLINK Company
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:58:13 GMT

... like the subject line says,

Has anyone got a program that will show the status
of a specified port's EIA leads?

Thanx in advance.

Paul Reiber

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From: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SunOS Security Hole?
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:21:48 GMT
Organization: Computing Center, Mississippi State University

In article <1992Sep28.141910.36902@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> wca0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (W. Cody Anderson) says:
: In article <1992Sep28.001508.15555@ra.msstate.edu>, fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Pe
: ters) writes:
: >In article <1992Sep27.183306.21669@panix.com> brian@panix.com (Brian Childs) sa
: ys:
: >: I think I have found a security hole in either SunOS or PC-NFS,
: >
: >What you have found is a security hole in the way that your server is
: >configured.  Arguably PC-NFS should not behave in the way that it does...
: >but even that wouldn't prevent someone from writing their own rsh that
: >does whatever they like.
: [etc...]
: 
: Doesn't Sun ship their systems open?  This is actually a "hole" Sun KNOWS
: about...when I upgraded to 4.1.2 this summer, it was INSTALLED this way, a.d I
: learned from my Sr. SysAdmin (who went through Sun's System Administration
: course) that this hole existed.

It is indeed a misfeature (I hesitate to call it a "hole" when it behaves
the way it was intended to behave).

That doesn't contradict what I said above.  The original poster was 
obviously aware of the + in hosts.equiv and intended for it to be
that way.

: If there are any listeners AT Sun Corp. out there...
: 
: WHY ARE THEY SHIPPED THIS WAY IF THEY POSE SUCH A SECURITY RISK?????

They are listening.  Solaris 2.0 fixes this problem...no hosts.equiv
is created by default.

As for why they waited this long...apparently that is what they thought
most of their customers wanted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: How to create a guest account with restricted shell?
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:58:44 GMT


I want to create an account which will not allow the user
to use cd, "/" in path names etc etc.....Basically I want
to use a restricted shell. I read in a Unix security book
yesterday that I can create an account and use "/bin/rsh" as
the login shell. But that doesn't work for me. Where can I get
a restricted shell? I know that "sh -r" is a restricted shell, but
could not figure out how I can enter "/bin/sh -r" in /etc/passwd
file

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Performance Improvement from adding Real Memory
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 10:48:03 GMT

is there not a variable or flag that also says 'No NeWS support' as well?  I
mean if folk are complaining about overhead, perhaps that is what they want?
I don't think it is going to help, since the server under OW, according to
the white paper I read, is really an interpreter which just handles protocol
requests - if it sees a NeWS request it does it, if it sees an X11 request,
it does that, etc.  But it might shave a micro second off.

The interesting thing is that I have seen reports that folk using some of
the accelleration boards actually see better performance using OW 3.0 than
at least X11R4, due to optimizations for those boards...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: brucek@uni.ins.com (Bruce Klein)
Subject: Why does moving modem break it?
Keywords: telebit serial
Organization: International Network Services
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:14:50 GMT

A client of mine has an office in Japan with two workstations.
One is a Sparc 1+ running 4.0.3 and the other is a Sparc2 running
4.1.2.

This office also has a Telebit TrailBlazer Plus that is currently
attached to the 1+. This modem is used with tip to dial in to the
San Jose office.

They would like to move the modem to the Sparc 2, but have been unable
to do so. The problem is that on the Sparc 2, tip will connect but
there will be lots of garbage on the connection. Interestingly enough,
I am able to dial in to the Sparc 2 system with no problems.

This problem is very frustrating since they are using the same modem,
the same modem configuration, same modem cable, the machines are in the
same location, the /etc/ttytab & /etc/remote files are configured
the same, and the /dev/ttyd0 and /dev/cua0 entries are identical. As far
as I can tell, the only differences between the setups are the
machine itself and the operating system version.

Does anyone have any idea what might be breaking on the Sparc2?

thanks,

bruce klein

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Q: local primary swap with remote nfs root?
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:21:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.145706.14035@newsgate.sps.mot.com> mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic) writes:
>Having local swap is great, but I've found that local root/var/tmp/spool
>and swap is better.

Perhaps.  If you really need lots of swap, this is one way to get just
that little bit more as opposed to a true dataless configuration.

>But anyway, I'm concerned about the last entry
>in the bootparam file below:
>
>In article <38972@unix.SRI.COM>, greep@Speech.SRI.COM (Steven Tepper) writes:
>|> I do that here on 4.1.1 (use local swap but NFS root and /usr).
>|> The kernel config line looks like:
>|> config vmunix root on type nfs swap on type spec
>|> 
>|> and the bootparams entry looks like:
>|> client-name root=root-server:/export/root/client-name \
>|> 	swap=/dev/rsd2b
>
>Wouldn't the "swap=/dev/rsd2b" mean the SERVER's /dev/rsd2b?

No no no.  If it were the server, then it would be
"server:/export/swap/client-name".  These parameters are passed to
the client from the server.  They are not interpreted by the server
and then passed to the client.

--Dave
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  color, phosphoric acid, caffeine, citric acid and natural flavorings.
From: sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu (Stewart N. Abramson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Printing, Sun, Mac, & CAP...HELP!!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:20:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi out there.

We would like to print from Macs (sys 7) and a Sun4 (4.1.2) to an Apple
Personal Laserwriter NT that is connected directly to the ethernet with
a Dayna EtherPrint Box.

Is CAP running on the Sun what we want???  Can someone out there help
a Mac person get CAP running on our Sun???

We will really appreciate ANY help.

Thanks
Stewart

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: dshaker@qualix.com (Doug Shaker)
Subject: Send /etc/printcap please.
Reply-To: dshaker@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:34:47 GMT

I am working on a program that needs to parse /etc/printcap files.
I need examples to test it on.  If you are so inclined, typing the
following will give me an example to work on:

compress -c /etc/printcap | uuencode printcap.Z.uu | Mail -s "printcap" dshaker@qualix.com

NOTE: Do this only on SunOS 4.x.x machines, as I don't know the options
for compress on other machines.  See the BIG NOTE for why this is important.

BIG NOTE:  BE SURE to use the -c option on the compress, as if you do
not, it will compress your /etc/printcap file itself and make your
printers stop working.  Bad idea.

NOTE: Do not do this if you are worried that your system security will be
compromised.  I can't see how it would be, but why should you trust me?

Final Note:  I am asking for this, not my employer.  They have nothing to
do with it.

-Doug Shaker
From: ssurgui@ucdacm.denver.colorado.edu (Scott Surguine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Booting Sun-3 Via 3.0b
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:27:20 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.admin comp.unix.bsd

Trying to Boot A Sun3/160 From Dist Tape For Sun OS 3.0b.

{} == Commands I have entered

--- >     { b st() }
--- boot: st(0,0,0)
--- boot: { st(0,0,4) }        4 Apparently == My Standalone Copy utility
--- size: 22928 + 4572 + 113452
--- Standalone Copy
--- From:  { st(0,0,5) }       5 Apparently == Mini-root
--- To:    { sd(0,0,1) }       
--- Copy Completed 4718592 bytes
--- boot:  { sd(0,0,1)  -sa }
--- Not Executable             This is where I get stumped!!!
--- boot:  { L1-A }
--- >      { b sd(0,0,1)  -sa }
--- Invalid Page Bus Error:
    vaddr: 0Fe841AC,  paddr: 000001AC, Type 0, Read, FC 5, Size 4 At      
    0004000

I'm A bit confused here. I believe I am Copying Mini-root to disk  
correctly.  Why won't it boot?  Not sure how I can Know for certain
that I am copying Mini-root, but I assume I am since 4==Stand/copy,
5 must==Mini-root.

If I get past this quirk, I assume the rest of the procedure should be:

--- root on: { sd0b }
--- swap on: {<????>}               Not Sure Here
--- #

Sigh

Thanks For Everyone's Help With This

Scott A. Surguine