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From: chouinar@centrcn.umontreal.ca (Chouinard Luc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: software distribution DB format ?
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:18:23 GMT

Is it possible to extract a single hardware-dependant file from a software
distribution package from SGI?.
I need to be able to extract CPU/GFXBOARD/SUBGR dependant files from the
software package to perform an upgrade on my systems.

Why ?, my systems are installed in a hybride manner between diskless an
standalone or dataless.  All the software is cascade across tree level of
mounted filesystems, from the central-server to lower servers to workstations.
This strategy gives the advantage that all the software is available from
all the machines and that the local disks are used at a maximum on all of
the machines.

I can deduce part the information that I need to do this from the *.idb files
in the software package (name/type/mode of the file and hardware it is 
compiled for).  But I need to be able to extract the file itself.

What would be perfect is if the next version of inst(1) could install software
on machines that have some of their package files on a rdonly-NFS mounted
filesytem. It could skip over NFS mounted files that are tagged has being
rd-only( i.e. not host private files).
It would give a warning for files that are not up to date (this
should not happen if the upgrade is started from the top of the cascade down).
** This feature is also needed by other sysadmins then me ***

I'd would not have all this trouble if I had 400 Megs of disk on every 
workstation but I dont have it.

Ideally, a complete description of the distribution package format would
be greatly apreciated (Oops, what did I just said ? :-) ...

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| Luc Chouinard                   Services Informatiques  |
| Administrateur de Systeme       Universite de Montreal  |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: scotty@eos-prog.whoi.edu (Scott J. McCue)
Subject: Namelist-directed input in SGI Fortran?
Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:25:25 GMT

 I've been tasked to port a Fortran 77 program from VAX-11 Fortran (version unknown,
circa 1987) to SGI Fortran (3.4.1). I'm relatively weak in Fortran. The VAX-11 code
uses namelist-directed READs of input files with form:

 $group-name item = value, value, ... ,
             item = value, value, ... ,
             .
             .
             .
 $END
 $group-name item = value, value, ... ,
             item = value, value, ... ,
             .
             .
             .
 $END
 .
 .
 .

  The individual values of each _item_ are placed into an array by the READ statement.

  Examination of the SGI _Fortran 77 language Reference Manual_, as well as dinking
around with a small i/o program and the original input file(s), suggests that the VAX-11
version of the input fileis incorrect for SGI in at least two ways:

1. a READ to an array, i.e. several values per _item_, isn't supported.
2. more than one _group-name_ per file isn't supported.

My question(s):
  Is this correct? Or does SGI Fortran indeed support arrays in the namelist as well as
multiple namelists per file? If the latter and not the former, please provide a template
of the input file form.

Thanks in advance
Scott M.
scotty@eos-prog.whoi.edu
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: RGB to HPGL
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:08:58 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1993Jan20.165311.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> gkessells@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>
>Could anyone please help with the following:
>
>	Does anyone know of any public domain programs for an sgi
>	that convert rgb images into hpgl or hpgl2 files.

No.  HPGL is a vector page description language, and your RGB is a
bitmap.  It would be terribly inefficient and quite likely to print
poorly due to the inaccuracy of printing dots with HPGL.

Perhaps there is another path you can take?

Cheers,

David Story                        	        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com				Mountain View, California

I've changed my name, so duis@sgi.com may bounce, please use story@sgi.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: doswangx@nuscc.nus.sg (Wang Xi (Ms))
Subject: WANTED: c++ source code for 3D graphics
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:01:13 GMT


I am looking for FTPsizes with c++ source code for 3D graphics & graphical
user interface using Silicon Graphics GL. The plateform I use is Silicon
Graphics Workstation IRIS 4D/35.

Thank you in advance!


Esther.X.Wang
From: lee@turbo4.rsg.hac.com (C. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Iomega Bernoulli disk on Iris ???
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:44:56 GMT
Organization: Hughes Transportation Simulation Center, HAC; Culver City, CA

Does anyone know about connecting Bernoulli drives to SGI's?  Does it
work?  Any SGI's?  Straight forward or twisty?  Off the shelf Mac/PC
type Bernoulli's or special firmware|mods?  Cost?  Standard SGI or
custom drivers?

There was some discussion of this around Nov/Dec.  The posted responses
didn't seem too conclusive, but apparently there were more definite
email responses (unfortunately, the poster passed them along and
doesn't have any copies).

Thanks for any info.
From: shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu (Peter Shenkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: PostScript "Editor"
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:02:05 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Chem, Columbia U, New York
X-Posted-From: still3.chem.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Penio Penev (penev@venezia) wrote:
> I myself am interested in a good way to generate 2D graphs and haven't
> found the sollution. Mathematica certaily is not. If anybody has,
> please let me know.

On a Sun, I used to use Paul Turner's "grtool", which was the UNIX
equivalent of KaleidaGraph or CricketGraph, but, in my opinion, better
than either.

I believe he now has a generic X version, called "xgr", I think.  Maybe
you can find it using archie.  Paul is at the Oregon Technical Institute,
but I forget his email address.  (His ID is pturner, but I forget the
hostname.)

Sorry I'm so vague;  maybe someone out there can report on xgr experience
on SGI, and fill in the gaps?

	-P.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: benoist@netcom.com (Tom Benoist)
Subject: Re: Showcase text capabilities (they need improvement)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:57:39 GMT

>I'm using Showcase 2.0.3, and I'm not very happy with the text 
>capabilities it offers.  Why can't the fonts be antialiased?
>Why can't you choose ANY font size (instead of selecting from 
>only a few set sizes)?  Please, please tell me this will be
>fixed soon....  
>
>Evelyn 
>efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu
>
Another text related problem I suspect is the "Keyboard" tool
which shows you the effects of using alt and shift key combinations.  This
tool doesnt use the current font.  Arent there different "ding bat"
characters for each font?  Anyway, Im still looking for the (C) 
copyright in helvetica.  

-benoist@netcom.com
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Shell script problem
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:46:02 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: boris.wpd.sgi.com
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Robert E. Minsk (ccoprrm@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote:

> "write some stuff in $SLATEDIR"
> [...] 
> The files are removed but not the directory.  So I tried changing the trap to
> trap "rm -rf $SLATEDIR;rmdir $SLATEDIR" 0 1 2 3 15, but then it returns
> Directory not empty.  Is this a problem with my shell script or with 4.0.5a?

No, it means that during the "write some stuff" step, a file got
created in $SLATEDIR that you do not have permission to remove. It may
be a subdirectory under $SLATEDIR with no write permission for you.

Or it may be a file owned by someone else (maybe root?) in a directory
with the "sticky" bit on ("t" in the last permissions letter when the
directory is displayed using ls -ld).

You may want to remove that "rm statement" and look at all the files
created under $SLATEDIR.
--
Shankar Unni				E-Mail:	shankar@sgi.com
Silicon Graphics Inc.			Phone:	+1-415-390-2072
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: troff and nroff
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:11:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <35137@adm.brl.mil> HERBER@fnal.fnal.gov (Randolph J. Herber, CD/DCD/SPG, x2966) writes:
>
>But you say you also want to print the manuals.  Gotcha!
>To obtain the necessary tables (which I feel should be part of DWB),
>you need to obtain LPS (Laser Printer Support).  This is a mere $800.
>
>It is possible that Impressario may also have the necessary facilities
>at a similiar price to LPS.

Yes, Impressario includes the Adobe psroff capabilities as part of its
base package.  Impressario obsoletes LPS completely.  We recommend you
purchase Impressario instead of LPS for all 4.0.1 and later systems.
LPS will be removed from the price list at some point.

Cheers,

David Story                        	        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com				Mountain View, California

I've changed my name, so duis@sgi.com may bounce, please use story@sgi.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: DIN Serial Connectors
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:59:14 GMT

In article <38402@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, gmt@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gary McTaggart) writes:
> Where can I find the type of serial connectors which are used on the back
> of Indigos and/or what is the part number for these?


If you want just the connectors and not full cables, or if you're cheap
(as I am), then you probably should buy MAC printer cables and butcher
them according to `man serial` on the Indigo.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: video in & out - crimson
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:50:54 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailwood.asd.sgi.com

grege@chopin.asd.sgi.com (Greg Estes) says:
> |> 
> |> Does the VideoLab have its own frame buffer?  
> 
> Yes, two of them. An input buffer and an output buffer.
> 
> Can it be used to send a
> |> series of image files out its D1 port like the VideoFramer?  
> 
> Yes.

However: you still need to have a GTX/VGX/VGXT graphics system to
be able to run VideoLab. The VideoLab board attaches to the graphics
subsystem; it is NOT a VME-bus board.

But yes, you can output frames to video without having to put them on
the graphics screen first, just like the VideoFramer (except that
VideoLab is faster).

For FAST output, a Crimson/VGX/VideoLab can output LIVE video, but
only if you do go through the graphics screen. Length of time is
dependant only on how much main memory you have; NTSC video takes
roughly 27 MB/second.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: gray@celia.UUCP (Steve Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Dynamic Shared Objects
Summary: SYSV DSO
Keywords: SYSV DSO
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:38:04 GMT
Reply-To: celia!gray@usc.edu (Steve Gray)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

I am very interested in the progress in terms of the implementation of SYSV
Dynamic Shared Objects (DSOs).  In particular I am interested in the use of
DSOs to reduce the development cycle for large systems that use cfront 3.0 
(SGI rev. 3.1. compiler set) templates.

Is the SYSV DSO functionality available under 4.0.5.?  I would be happy with
a primitive and not necesarily reliable version just to see how it is 
supposed to work.  My understanding is that DSOs will be fully supported in
IRIX 5.0.  Is this correct?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
From: mtj@babar.asd.sgi.com (Michael Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Onyx
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:27:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: babar.asd.sgi.com

In article <...>, jamison@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Jamie Gulden) writes:

|> I want a 24 processor Onyx with RE2.
|> 
|> Any chance someone would want to donate one :)
|> 
|> Jamie
|> CSU Computer Visualization Lab

Sure. I'd think that your sales-rep would donate that last processor
                                                         2
if you want to buy a 23-processor Onyx with RealityEngine  graphics.
You should always ask for generosity when buying, even when its the
premier graphics system on the planet that's being bought.

(Sorry for the double spacing. SGI's new product naming conventions
have exceeded ASCII typographic technology ;-)

-- 

Be seeing you,      mtj@sgi.com  415.390.1455  M/S 7L-590
Michael Jones       Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division
                    2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311
From: scotth@oniboshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP Software for SGI
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:08:59 GMT
	<1993Jan21.024527.3624@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Reply-To: scotth@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA


>>>>> In article <1993Jan21.024527.3624@odin.corp.sgi.com>, carlson@support.newport.sgi.com (Chris Carlson) writes:

carlson> In <v2u509s@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com> vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

>SLIP is on the IRIX 4.0.5 CDROM's and tapes.

>As far as I know, PPP is currently only available from Morning Star
>Technologies.  I have no idea of how much they charge.

carlson> I have heard from other developers that SLIP provides a much better
carlson> interface than PPP.  I don't have any personal experience, just
carlson> heresay.

Having spent a lot of time as a user and as support for both Irix SLIP
and MorningStar PPP on the IRIS, I think I can comment on this.

The differences between the two protocols as I understand it fall into
two main areas: SLIP supports IP only, PPP supports more protocols
(depending on vendor); PPP can negotiate options (like IP address, VJ
header compression, etc), whereas SLIP must have all the options
negotiated out-of-band. PPP also supports more authentication options
than (Irix) SLIP, though at the moment each vendor's version seems to
be incompatible.

Performance differences between them are swamped by differences in
modem performance, even between V.32bis brands.

As far as "interface", the most obvious difference between Irix SLIP
and MorningStar PPP is how the link is managed. Irix SLIP must be
manually started and shut down, Mst PPP will dynamically dial when
packets arrive, and drop the phone connection after a timeout period.
Since I first used SLIP on Irix, I only recently discovered that other
versions of SLIP don't even support chat scripts -- you'd have to dial
the connection manually, then manually start the slip processes on
both ends (how primitive!). Irix SLIP has the same dialer/chat script
functionality as uucico. MorningStar uses a different though
functionally equivalent dialer capability.

As for price, Irix SLIP is frre with the OS (on releases 4.0 and
later), MorningStar PPP is $795 a copy last time I knew.

=-=-=-=-=
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Subject: C compiler problem
Organization: Habitat Ecology Div., Bedford Inst. Oceanography
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:20:55 GMT

I've run into a curious problem compiling the program getwxmap, which
fetches a weather map and displays it on the screen.  It crashes with a
core dump, but if I make the replacement:

change
       if ((tosite = (FILE *) popen (command, "w")) == (FILE *) NULL)
to
       if ((tosite = (FILE *) popen (command, "w")) == (FILE *) 0)

it compiles and runs fine.  NULL should be defined by stdio.h, and I've
tried including a redundant definition in the file before this code, but
the debugger reports that NULL is not defined.
-- 
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P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.dfo.ca
From: root@centrcn.umontreal.ca (Root de centrs1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: software distribution DB format ?
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:33:40 GMT

Is it possible to extract a single hardware-dependant file from a software
distribution package from SGI?.
I need to be able to extract CPU/GFXBOARD/SUBGR dependant files from the
software package to perform an upgrade on my systems.

Why ?, my systems are installed in a hybride manner between diskless an
standalone or dataless.  All the software is cascade across tree level of
mounted filesystems, from the central-server to lower servers to workstations.
This strategy gives the advantage that all the software is available from
all the machines and that the local disks are used at a maximum on all of
the machines.

I can deduce part the information that I need to do this from the *.idb files
in the software package (name/type/mode of the file and hardware it is 
compiled for).  But I need to be able to extract the file itself.

What would be perfect is if the next version of inst(1) could install software
on machines that have some of their package files on a rdonly-NFS mounted
filesytem. It could skip over NFS mounted files that are tagged has being
rd-only( i.e. not host private files).
It would give a warning for files that are not up to date (this
should not happen if the upgrade is started from the top of the cascade down).
** This feature is also needed by other sysadmins then me ***

I'd would not have all this trouble if I had 400 Megs of disk on every 
workstation but I dont have it.

Ideally, a complete description of the distribution package format would
be greatly apreciated (Oops, what did I just said ? :-) ...

-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Luc Chouinard                   Services Informatiques  |
| Administrateur de Systeme       Universite de Montreal  |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: strange compiler behavior
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:58:30 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1993Jan23.043404.20003@Princeton.EDU> igor@fine.Princeton.EDU (Igor Rivin) writes:
| Why is it that if you declare an uninitialized global array,
| three times as much virtual space as necessary gets allocated?
| 
| Trivial example program:
| 
| #include <stdio.h>
| 
| char dog[100000];

It was a bug in the code that tried to align global arrays
that were large on page boundaries.  You can defeat it (it
was turned off in later compiler releases by default) by
the -Xnobsschange ld option.  The reason for the page alignment
is that can improve performance for some times of i/o, particularly
raw and  networking.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: lee@turbo4.rsg.hac.com (C. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: how to terminate a `read' gently?
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:04:58 GMT
Organization: Hughes Transportation Simulation Center, HAC; Culver City, CA

I have a non-graphics application where I have a read on stdin, and if
a second process sets a flag in shared memory I want to end the read,
but not the first program/process.

How can I get the first process' read to end without killing the process?

If I use a signal, won't the signal handler exit and resume where it left
off, i.e. in the read?

I thought the description of SIGTTIN sounded like it would make the read
return with EIO, but I couldn't get it to work.

Thanks for any help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris)
Subject: Re: video in & out - crimson
Reply-To: wes@msc.edu
Organization: AHPCRC, Minnesota Supercomputer Center
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:43:10 GMT

In article <1jl834INNasn@fido.asd.sgi.com>, grege@chopin.asd.sgi.com (Greg Estes) writes:
|> 
|> * VideoLab
|> 	Real-time video in/out/through. RGB/YUV/D1. Video in a window,
|> 	video effects, video output, scan conversion, alpha blending,
|> 	transcoding, etc. Also does some neat-o effects like taking an
|> 	incoming, say Betacam, signal and pixel replicating it up to
|> 	HDTV resolution without losing frames. Does *not*, however, have
|> 	an encoder or decoder built-in, so get your own Faroudja for 
|> 	NTSC/PAL :-)
|>   Works on Crimson/VGX or Crimson/VGXT only

Does the VideoLab have its own frame buffer?  Can it be used to send a
series of image files out its D1 port like the VideoFramer?  Or must
this be done using its scan conversion capabilities?  Does it include
an onboard animation controller like the Video Framer?


===============================================================================
Wes Barris                                                   PH: (612) 626-8090
Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.                         Email: wes@msc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: otoo@scs.carleton.ca (Ekow Otoo)
Subject: Installing X11R5 on SGI 4D/35
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:48:03 GMT

Has any one successfully installed X11R5 on an SGI 4D/35? I
would like to know what special options are required in 
the site.def and sgi.cf files.

I think I have set all that is required right, but I continue to
get Syntax error during the compilation of some of the extension
files. A call to SGI suggested I wait for their new OS to be out in 
6 months. Any one with experience in installing X11R5 on 4D/35 ? I would
like to here from him/her.
From: calvin@dinkum.mti.sgi.com (Calvin H. Vu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Namelist-directed input in SGI Fortran?
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:16:51 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1993Jan21.202525.2050@netnews.whoi.edu> scotty@eos-prog.whoi.edu (Scott J. McCue) writes:


> I've been tasked to port a Fortran 77 program from VAX-11 Fortran (version unknown,
>circa 1987) to SGI Fortran (3.4.1). I'm relatively weak in Fortran. The VAX-11 code
>uses namelist-directed READs of input files with form:

>  Examination of the SGI _Fortran 77 language Reference Manual_, as well as dinking
>around with a small i/o program and the original input file(s), suggests that the VAX-11
>version of the input fileis incorrect for SGI in at least two ways:

>1. a READ to an array, i.e. several values per _item_, isn't supported.
>2. more than one _group-name_ per file isn't supported.

	Both of these are false.  Probably you ran into some other problems,
not those described above.

>My question(s):
>  Is this correct? Or does SGI Fortran indeed support arrays in the namelist as well as
>multiple namelists per file? If the latter and not the former, please provide a template
>of the input file form.
	This is an example of the program and the input file:

Test program:
	dimension arr1(5), arr2(5)
	namelist /nm1/ arr1
	namelist /nm2/ arr2
	read (5, nml=nm1)
	read (5, nml=nm2)
	print *, arr1, '\n', arr2
	end

Input file:
 $nm1 arr1 = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
 $end
 $nm2 arr2(5) = 10, arr2 = 6, 7, 8, 9
 $end

Running with "a.out < inputfile" gives:
    1.000000       2.000000       3.000000       4.000000       5.000000    

    6.000000       7.000000       8.000000       9.000000       10.00000    


>Thanks in advance
>Scott M.
>scotty@eos-prog.whoi.edu

If you still have problems then send me a small test case and sample input
file and I'll take a look at it.

- calvin