From: query@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Samuel Green)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Home Brews?
Summary: Pain and suffering?
Keywords: Ouch, that hurts!
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:23:15 GMT
Distribution: talk.rape
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


	I just got back from breakfast with a friend of mine who works
instructing couples in fitness and self defense training, and decided to
ask her opinions about the various chemical agents (Like mace, capstun,
etc) and non-lethal defense measures (like a taser).  She said some pretrty
interesting things:
	Tasers are pretty lame due to the need (for some of the models she
has seen, at least) to touch the arc to bare flesh, and also some of them
are fairly unreliable, shorting or burning out frequerntly.
	She is opposed to firearms, as the risk of killing the attacker is
too high for her to accept.
	She thinks mace is a joke, and capstun is a bit weak for the price.
She offered the following recipie for some incredibly vile stuff (she
carries it in her purse [unless she fears she may be attacked] and let me
get a whiff... I was crying for 10 minutes)

	Take 2 packs of high tar cigarettes or a pouch of full taste
chewing tobacco and put the tobacco in about a pint of industrial strength bleach (amonia works
too, but smells much worse if it leaks).  Leave the tobacco soaking for a
day, and then strain the liquid into a spray bottle (one of those hairspray
bottles that you pump up and then can use like an aerosol is best, she
says)  Suppossedly the nicotine (a VERY toxic substance) will burn the eyes
like hell, and the bleach the skin and eyes. 
	I think that sounds a bit TOO extreme, as you could permanantly
blind someone, and that may make it illegal to use.  But, along the same
lines, I came up with a few alternatives that may or may not work.  
	NOTE:  Some of these are not intended to be totally serious, but
they are alternative defenses, and easily made at home.

	1) Non-chlorine bleach and amonia.  Quick, cheap and probably
deviously effective.  I am not sure, though, if this stuff is totally safe
to make, as I heard somewhere that bleach and amonia mixed could create a
poison gas of some sort.

	2) Gasoline.  Got some in my eyes once, and damn, it hurt!
Couldn't think of much of anything except that I wanted to die for a while,
there.  Don't carry this on *really* hot days, though, as the fumes could
be quite strong.

	3) Acetone (sp?) and bleach.  Or, just plain acetone, if you like.
In the eyes it will be quite effective.  Again, do not carry it on hot
days, as I believe that it has a fairly low flash point.

	4) Concetrated acid.  Carry it in a parfume spritzer, and there you
go.  I know of about a dozen chemical supply places around my area where
you can get the stuff if you are willing to be sly about it.  (Not intended
to be taken seriously)

	5) Napalm.  You see those *HUGE* 200 yard range squirt guns?  Make
some napalm using a quart of dish detergent, a pint of gasoline or
kerosene, and a small packet of gelatin (although, the gelatin may clog up
the squirt gun).  Or, just get a stack of styrofoam cups and pour the
gasoline into the top one and allow it to eat/soak its way through to the
bottom one.  This takes a *long* time, though, and the result is *quite*
viscous.  Then all you do is carry your squirt gun and a lighter...  Flame
on.  (Not to be taken seriously, for those who may be uncertain)

	Anyway, I would be interested to hear about other home brews,
serious and not so, if anyone has any ideas.

	Sam

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