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From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: RE: question...?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 02:57 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Reply-To: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
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achmad@stud.cs.uit.no (achmad) writes:
> I have been wondering, can a muslim marrying a non muslim?  The
>reason I ask about this is that I had a long discussion about this
>with a friend of mine. Could anyone out there explain it to me?

I'm not a scholar, but from what I understand, a Muslim man may marry a
non-Muslim woman who is of the People of the Book (Akhli Al-Kitab).
However, in many Muslim countries, it's customary (and sometimes
required) for the non-Muslim to first convert to Islam.
From: mvwjf@mvgpf.att.com (William J Fallon)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Basic Info On Islam
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:12:20 GMT
Organization: AT&T


In article <28530@life.ai.mit.edu> mvwjf@mvgpf.att.com (William J Fallon) writes:
>
   
Let's try again and see if we can get my message in the posting.
   
I would like some basic information on Islam, perhaps a book
which I might find in most book stores or someplace I can write to to
get a such a book or if there is a FAQ posting available for this board
could some one point me to it or e-mail it to me.
  
Thanks for any info.
From: fardoun_a@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: RE: Marriage in Islam
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:31:59 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <7OCT199202495804@iago.caltech.edu>, mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
> 
> In article <27917@life.ai.mit.edu> angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One At The Bridge) writes:
$ This is in answer to a letter about marriage in Islam.
$ In answer to the question:
$ 	A non-muslim girl can marry a muslim man provided that she is of
$ a monotheistic religion.  If she is not, then the male risks eternal
$ damnation as a result of his sins.  However, if she becomes monotheistic,
$ then the marriage is right in the eyes of Allah. 
$ 	A non-muslim male must not marry a muslim girl.  It is forbidden by
$ Allah's will.  If he becomes Muslim, then it is valid.
$ 	Note: These rules only aplly to the religios aspect of marriage.
> 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
$ Legally, a non-muslim can marry a muslim regardless of sex.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
$ 
$ 	Angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
$ 
> I never knew that there was a difference. Could you please explain that one?
> A muslim man can marry a jewish woman or a monotheistic christian woman.
> A muslim woman can only marry a muslim man. however this rule applies only in 
> cases where the muslims are the majority. In the case like here in the united
> states where we are the minority, a muslim can only marry a muslimah and vice
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 if you do not know, do not give a fatwa (rule); where did you get the above 
that when muslims are a minority , a muslim man can not get married to an (ahl
Al-kitab woman)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> versa.
> 
> zafar
>
From: mok@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Mohammad Kanaan)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Ideas Wanted
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:30:20 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit

[Please reply by personal email - This is an announcement, not a
discussion topic - Moderator]

Alsalam Alykum,

  I will be making some of the signs that will be raised in fridays national demonstration for Bosnia. 
  
  I am interested in ideas for these signs and what they should say.
  
  Please mail your suggesions to:
  
  mok.cs.wayne.edu
  
  Thank you.
  
  Mohammad.
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Bosnia Week - Islamic Society of Rutgers University
Date: 8 Oct 1992 04:22 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
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Assalamu `alaykum,

  The Islamic Society of Rutgers University (ISRU) is organizing a Bosnia
week from October 5th to October 10th. This includes:

  - A series of films about Bosnia-Herzegovina detailing the ethnic cleansing,
    comparing B-H before and after Serbian aggression, showing Serbian
    mutilation of the bodies of Muslims, dead and alive, and showing what was
    done to Islamic places of worship.

  - An information campaign to make people aware of the war in B-H and of
    Serbian atrocities. This includes posters, flyers and articles in the
    school newspaper, the daily Targum.

  - An attempt to make people aware of the inhumanity of the embargo against
    B-H. This embargo was initially intended to decrease the threat of war
    but is being used to eliminate a nation. The ISRU is trying to generate
    support for President Izetbegovich's plea to lift the embargo so that the
    Bosnians can defend themselves.

  Events are scheduled in all campuses.

  May Allah (God) grant victory to the righteous.



  The ISRU would like to hear comments or suggestions especially from our
Bosnian brothers.



Assalamu `alaykum,

Mazen Mokhtar
From: hsameti@tesla.uwaterloo.ca (Hossein Sameti)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: TALK: Bosnia, The Muslim Perspective
Keywords: Muslims, Bosnia Herzegovina, talks
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:50:42 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Waterloo


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From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Soc.Religion.Islam: STATS.SEP92
Date: 8 Oct 1992 05:23 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: iago.caltech.edu
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                STATISTICS 4:30 am PST 9/17/92
                =============================

                Moderator: Asim M Mughal

                For Period       : August 23 `92 thru September 16 `92.

STATUS:            Articles Received:      37
                   Articles Reviewed:      20

                   Backlog          :      17

REVIEWED ARTICLES: Articles Approved:       8
                   Articles Rejected:       1
     		   Administrative/queries: 11
					------- 20
					
SRI ADMINISTRATIVE     Announcements:	    1

TOTAL SRI Load (Reviewed + Admins)  :      21!
     		 
              o  Rejected/Approved Ratio: 1/8 = 12.5 %
From: afadel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ayman Fadel)
Subject: Good Fiqh Book in English
Message-Id: <1992Oct2.005322.22927@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 00:53:22 GMT
Apparently-To: uunet.uu.net!soc-religion-islam
Status: RO

salam

_~umdat as-saalik fii ~iddat an-naasik_ by Ahmad
Ibn an-Naqiib al-Misri.  Text plus translation into
English by Nuuh Ha Miim Keller.  Available from

Modern Printing Press
Dubai-U.A.E.
Tel 245655 P.o. Box 1042
Fax 246308

This is a book of Shafi~i fiqh.  The editor has also
included some excerpts from others' works concerning
questions such as the permissibility of taqliid 
(imitation) by Ramadaan Sa~iid Al-buuti and the
classification of knowledge into obligatory,
recommended, neither blameworthy nor praiseworthy,
blameworthy and forbidden.   The latter is
by al-imam an-nawawi.

salaam
ayman
Xref: sparky soc.religion.islam:1733 soc.culture.arabic:4302
From: paryavi@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Saiid Paryavi)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Macintosh Arabic Keyboard FOR SALE
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:33:46 GMT
Followup-To: s
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kansas State University


Macintosh Arabic Extended Keybaord for sale.

It was purchased for a project but was never used.

Price:  $180 + shipping
From: mok@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Mohammad Kanaan)
Subject: Ideas Wanted
Message-Id: <1992Oct14.212218.8960@cs.wayne.edu>
Keywords: demonstration signs
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:22:18 GMT
Apparently-To: uunet!soc-religion-islam
Status: R

Alsalam Alykum,

  I will be making some of the signs that will be raised in fridays national demonstration for Bosnia. 
  
  I am interested in ideas for these signs and what they should say.
  
  Please mail your suggesions to:
  
  mok.cs.wayne.edu
  
  Thank you.
  
  Mohammad.
From: rajput@wam.umd.edu (Adil E. Rajput)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Hijab in Islam
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:47:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: wam.1992Oct10.174752.15341
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Apparently-To: soc-religion-islam@uunet.uu.net
Status: RO
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <7OCT199205043518@iago.caltech.edu> mughal@iago.caltech.edu  
(ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
> 
> in Article: 6814 of soc.culture.arabic jamshid@socrates.ucsf.edu (J.  
Naghizadeh)writes:
> 
> 
> -------Begin Quote----------
> As I said, to my (incomplete) knowledge, stoning is not mentioned in
> Koran. I would like to see the exact Soureh and Verse reference which
> refers to stoning in Koran, if you disagree with me.
> 
> in Soureh Noor which refers to covering the "BREAST" and not the "HAIR".
> This type of "hijab" is no different from the practice in most of the
> world. If you have any other Ayah in Koron which refers to 'hijab"
> please produce it here.
> -------End Quote------------
> 
Jamshid,
If you want a specific verse, look it up in Sura ' al Ahazab. Its  
somewhere around verse 40 -70 . I don't exactly remember right now but
if you want I can look it up later. It clearly says there to wear Hijab
Every scholar agrees that this clearly says taht a woman should cover her  
hair. However there is this dispute wheteher it means for a woman to cover  
her face also or just the hair.
Also, as Asim Mughal said that Hadith is not only important but absolutely  
necessary for these matters. it is narrated in an authentic Hadith 
(again I don't have the exact reference bu I f you want I can gert it)
that Ayaisha The wife of Prophet SAW said that when we were going to  
Makkah for Hajj, whenever caravans used to pass by us we would cover our  
faces and when they passed we used to uncover them again among the women.
And who is Ayaisha ? She is our Mother and Mother of all the Believers as  
is indicated by the Holy Quran . So if the mother of Believers used to  
cover her face from people not mahram to her then what do you think the  
attitude of ordinary muslim women should be
May Allah Guide us all to the right path Ameen
If I made any mistakes , May Allah forgive me .
Please point out the mistakes to me .
Any questions or comments ? email me at 
rajput@wam.umd.edu

Adil E. Rajput
President of MUslim Student Union of Maryland
From: ahaque@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Haque)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: question...?
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:44:59 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Status: RO
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <7OCT199202574881@iago.caltech.edu> chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai) writes:
>
>achmad@stud.cs.uit.no (achmad) writes:
>> I have been wondering, can a muslim marrying a non muslim?  The
>>reason I ask about this is that I had a long discussion about this
>>with a friend of mine. Could anyone out there explain it to me?
>
>I'm not a scholar, but from what I understand, a Muslim man may marry a
>non-Muslim woman who is of the People of the Book (Akhli Al-Kitab).
>However, in many Muslim countries, it's customary (and sometimes
>required) for the non-Muslim to first convert to Islam.
>
	A Muslim man may marry a woman of the People of the Book and
	has not committed any great sin like associating Allah with
	anybody. Any Christians who believe that Jesus is the son of 
	God and their Lord, therefore, one can not marry such woman. 
	Allah said in the holy Qur'an (Maidah) that they are 'Kafir'.
From: small@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Peter Small)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Computerized Koran
Keywords: J. M. Rodwell
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:47:14 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle



I am interested in getting a copy of the Koran that can be used for word
search, cross reference on an IBM PC.  In particular, the translation by
J. M. Rodwell.

If this is available by shareware or by FTP, please let me know where
it can be found.  OR.. if a copy can be made, I will be willing to
pay for it.

Thank you in advance,

PS

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From: jodar@aludra.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Sociology, Max Weber and Islam
Summary: Shall we have a go at it?
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:38:43 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <6OCT199212575796@romeo.caltech.edu> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>
>Dear participants of this newsgroup
>
>I wonder whether somebody might be intrested in discussing the
>great German sociologist Max Weber (1964-1920) and his views on
>the history of Islam.
>
>Some of his views are surely prejudiced but some might be actual
>even today.

Well we can't make that distinction until they've been discussed,
can we? :-)

If you're willing to ask questions, there are those of us willing
to supply what information we have....

>with the best regards
>
>Tapani Hietaniemi, University of Helsinki

-AQ
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Soc.Religion.Islam: STATS.OCT92
Date: 8 Oct 1992 05:34 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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                STATISTICS 5:00 am PST 10/8/92
                =============================

                Moderator: Asim M Mughal

                For Period       : September 17 '92 thru October 7 '92.

STATUS:            Articles Received:      14
     		   Sept 17 Backlog  :      17
				       ------- 31

                   Articles Reviewed:      31

                   Backlog          :       0

REVIEWED ARTICLES: Articles Approved:      21
                   Articles Rejected:       4
     		   Administrative/queries:  6
					------- 31
					
SRI ADMINISTRATIVE     Announcements:	    3

TOTAL SRI Load (Reviewed + Admins)  :      34!
     		 
              o  Rejected/Approved Ratio: 4/21 = 19 %
From: exuasqa@exu.ericsson.se (Asem Qaddoura,xt-dk,1209)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Words Feminists find Demeaning!
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:56:04 GMT
Reply-To: exuasqa@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


AsSalam-Alaikum brothers/sisters:

I only have one thing to say, my name is listed below, but I did not right any
of the articles or part of the articles shown below.  I remember that I wrote
an answer to this subject, but it was NOT what you see below.  In an Islamic
state if one is a muslim and does not pray, then he is considered a FASIQ (bad
person), if he denies the prayer as a part of the religion, then he is not
a muslim.  Allah knows best, you may correct me (only on the above) if I am
wrong.




In article 716404728@flounder.cs.duke.edu, ahmed@ecs.umass.edu () writes:
>In article <26773@life.ai.mit.edu>, ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban) writes:
>> In article <26575@life.ai.mit.edu> exuasqa@exu.ericsson.se (Asem Qaddoura,xt-dk,1209) writes:
>> 
>> Perhaps, I understood the question wrongly, but if not, the answer is
>> that the husband is a good Muslim if he acts good against his
>> women/children. If not, he will not be punished: therefore, being good
>> is not a law of Sharia (like praying five times a day: if not, you
>> will be forced in an Islamic state). 
>> 	  ^^^^^^
>
>Assalamualaikum,
>	Excuse me!! Nobody can force one to pray. Salaat is obligatory.
>It is one of the duties of a muslim to ALLAH(swt). Such obligations are
>between the person and Allah. Others may advice. It is only the social
>duties that the state can regulate.
>
>Jazakallah ... khaleel.
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: RE: Marriage in Islam
Date: 7 Oct 1992 02:49 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Reply-To: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (Zafar T Minhas)
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In article <27917@life.ai.mit.edu> angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One At The Bridge) writes:
>This is in answer to a letter about marriage in Islam.
>In answer to the question:
>	A non-muslim girl can marry a muslim man provided that she is of
>a monotheistic religion.  If she is not, then the male risks eternal
>damnation as a result of his sins.  However, if she becomes monotheistic,
>then the marriage is right in the eyes of Allah. 
>	A non-muslim male must not marry a muslim girl.  It is forbidden by
>Allah's will.  If he becomes Muslim, then it is valid.
>	Note: These rules only aplly to the religios aspect of marriage.
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Legally, a non-muslim can marry a muslim regardless of sex.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	Angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
>
I never knew that there was a difference. Could you please explain that one?
A muslim man can marry a jewish woman or a monotheistic christian woman.
A muslim woman can only marry a muslim man. however this rule applies only in 
cases where the muslims are the majority. In the case like here in the united
states where we are the minority, a muslim can only marry a muslimah and vice
versa.

zafar
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: RE: Book By President of Bosnia
Date: 7 Oct 1992 05:10 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban)
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In article <28347@life.ai.mit.edu> gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Basalat Ali Raja) writes:

   BOOK BY PRESIDENT OF BOSNIA

   We have just received the book ISLAM BETWEEN EAST AND 
   WEST written by the current president of Bosnia, 'Alija 'Ali 
   Izetbegovic.  In his book Izetbegovic focuses primarily on Islam 
   within the history of ideas.  He emphasizes the historical 
   commonality and borrowing between three major monotheistic 
   religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.  He puts 
   forth a model of two elementary views of the world, religion 
   and materialism, and in this dichotomy, which Izetbegovic asserts 
   is part of the 'basic dualism of the world,' which in reality is 
   never actually pure, Izetbegovic seeks a middle road pointing 
   toward Islamic philosophy which he says was originally 
   conceptualized to serve this middle path.  

   This is a good book for seeking insight into the thinking of this 
   Bosnian leader.  It is the latest edition published in 1989 by 
   American Trust Publications, first published in 1984.  Both 
   editions were published when Izetbegovic was still imprisoned 
   under the former communist regime.

   The book is not widely available in the U.S.  If you would like to 
   obtain a copy, we are making it available for a reasonable cost 
   which includes shipping.  (US$19.95 includes postage and 
   handling.  292 pages, stiff paperback. You can send a 
   money order or check to AWAIR, 2095 Rose Street, Suite 4, 
   Berkeley, CA  94709.)  

   Jennifer Smith
   Arab World And Islamic Resources and School Services
   awair@igc.apc.org

The English translation is also from Izetbegovic. There exists also a
Turkish translation.

ALI IZZETBEGOVIC, Dogu ve Bati arasinda Islam, Nehir Yayinlari
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From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: RE: SUMMARY OF SOME OLD PAGAN CULTS
Date: 7 Oct 1992 05:13 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jodar@aludra.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
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Summary: An additional note....
Keywords: Paganism in Christianity....
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In article <717708808@ramm.cs.duke.edu> irfan@apollo.ece.wisc.edu (Irfan Alan) writes:

>Allah says in the Qur'an:
>
>	"The Jews call 'Uzayr a son of God', and the Christians call 
>Christ the son of God.  That is a saying from their mouth; 
>(in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say." 
>
>                                                  (Qur'an 9:30)  

[deletion]

>MITHRUS:  Mediterranean god, sun-god of Persians.  
>Born to a virgin.  Perfect prototype of Jesus Christ ...

You forgot to mention the fact that Mithra's Day of Worship was
Sunday.  (Which is why it's called 'Sun-day'....)  It was the
Pauline's which changed their Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

My main question, however, is whether this discussion is
applicable to soc.religion.islam.  Certainly this would belong in
soc.religion.christian, but I know from personal experience that
they do not welcome such postings.

Perhaps we need a new newsgroup?  Soc.Religion.Debate...? :-)


-AQ