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From: ianr@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Ian Rowlands)
Subject: Re: Major League Baseball in Australia.
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:34:59 GMT

In article <Bw2I8E.GGH@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>
>What is the popularity of baseball in Australia. Do Australian
>sports TV network show Major League Baseball games(USA)
>regularly.
>
>In other words, if a baseball fan who is relocating to Aus.
>for a temporarily, can catch all the action of North American
>Major League Baseball on a regular basis.

	Yes and no. During the season, there is one game shown on a
Sunday night (usually). At the end of the season (e.g American and National
League Finals plus the World Series), all the games are shown on a delayed
broadcast (usually the day after, so avoid the newspapers!). There is one
catch - the earliest it starts is 12am! When something else is on (e.g Golf),
the golf takes priority. As somebody who watched the telecast last year (why
were my final grades so low :-) ), I think it sucks. I can wait until 12am
for a game, but 2am is getting just a little late. Especially when they
show the National League game then the American League one. I have spare time,
but not that much! I like golf as well, but stuff golf until the end of the
World Series!

				Ian


Ian Rowlands, former student in  | Uni  : ianr@ee.mu.oz.au 
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, | Home : ianr@gpark.apana.org.au
 (including Computer Science)    | 
University of Melbourne          |  [This space for rent]
From: narkiewi@madona.pilgrim.umass.edu (J. David Narkiewicz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Jason Donavan related help needed...
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:06:03 GMT
Organization: Project Pilgrim, Umass

I need to acquire an extended version of a song by Jason Donavan (please,
no fingers down your throught -- this is the sane act of a rational man).
As we all know Mr. Donavan had the epic disco hit Too Many Broken Hearts.
Well in the version I used to hear in the night clubs, there was a second
song mixed in that went "I haven't stopped dancing yet..."  Well, I bought
his silly album for $24 U.S. and of course the extended version isn't on it.

1) Does anyone know the exact title of the "Too Many Broken Hearts" remix?

2) Is there a kind soul down under who could help me get the CD version of
the above song and I don't mean the album "Ten Good Reasons."  I don't mind
paying in advance etc.   Hell, I'd even accept a phone number of a record
store that had it in stock and work a deal out with them over the phone.

Hey, any help is appreciated and please no Jason/Kylie jokes...

David
From: b_duke@darwin.ntu.edu.au (Brian Duke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:07:37 +0900

In article <1992Oct7.110412.1740@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, afc@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> In article <1au3tvINNp3a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth) writes:
>> 
>> 	Well, I have two questions, which several individuals here ought
>> to be capable of answering.  What is Vegemite?  Can a non-citizen of
>> Austtralia open up a bank account down under?  I know thtat in tthe
>> Unitetd States is it not possible for a non-cittizen of this fine
>> countrty to do so, butt it is possible in some parts of the world.
> 
> Answers: Disgusting.  

I agree, but then I was not raised on it. 

>Yes, just as non-citizens can in the US and anywhere else.

I have an account in the states, but I'm not a cityzen or ever been a 
resident except for a 5 months exchange visa. Before coming to Aus I had
an account here - no probs - but you pay withholding tax (10% I think) on
any interest payments. The Aus taxman wants to get something out of you.
> 
> 
-- 
                  Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)
School of Chemistry and Earth Sciences, Northern Territory University
        GPO Box 40146, Casuarina, NT 0811, Australia.
Phone 089-466702   FAX 089-410460    E-mail B_DUKE@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU
From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Getting Angry in Australia
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:26:14 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

In article <1b69fpINNj7g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:
>
>   Mr. Ohayon:  interesting that you mention some unusual
>             Australian behavior perhaps.
>             It appears you are from Japanese culture!
>             If so, pardon me for asking, why is it
>             that Japanese gentleman commit harry carry
>             or suicide when he lose a little money
>             in business or stock market?
>
>-- 
>Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
>            looks promising.... |-)

Sorry ol' boy

I'm not Japanese and don't intend to be. As a matter of fact I'm born French
and the only peculiar thing I know about us froggies is that we don't wash 
very frequently :-).

By the way it's not "harry carry" but "Hara Kiri"! Better get your Japanese
right before the Japanese finish their invasion of Australia ... 

Sayonara ...
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From: fcs$1224@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:35:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: altair.1992Oct7.123526.780
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

In article <1au3tvINNp3a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth) writes:
> 
> 	Well, I have two questions, which several individuals here ought
> to be capable of answering.  What is Vegemite?  Can a non-citizen of
> Austtralia open up a bank account down under?  I know thtat in tthe
> Unitetd States is it not possible for a non-cittizen of this fine
> countrty to do so, butt it is possible in some parts of the world.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>    any turkey
>     can smoke!

I just called my bank to see if a non-US citizen could open an account.
They said there was no problem, all the person needed was a passport and 
to fill out a form.

Actually, this could not be true.  We have a large number of foriegn students
here and we require them to have a certain amount of money in US funds before
we will let them enter school (Southeastern Louisiana University)

I will leave the Vegemite question for someone else to answer -- I have 
tasted it but have no idea as to how one would describe said taste.

Tom

higginbotham@selu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:55:48 GMT

as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth) writes:


>	Well, I have two questions, which several individuals here ought
>to be capable of answering.  What is Vegemite?  Can a non-citizen of
>Austtralia open up a bank account down under?

As far as I know, anybody can open a Bank account here. You need to
provide at least two forms of ID, so if you only have your passport,
that's not enough. A Passport, a Drivers' licence with photo, and maybe
some credit cards might do it.

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.edu.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit.  -- Seneca
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From: markr@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mark Rivers)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,rec.sport.baseball,alt.cascade
Subject: Re: Major League Baseball in Australia.
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:35:07 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
> NBA, NFL, NHL too.
ITV, BBC, Granada.  Who?

	-Mark
From: nsp00@ccc.amdahl.com (Nigel S Pope)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Peter Milford - READ THIS
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:30:52 GMT
Reply-To: nsp00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


Sorry to put this sort of thing here.  I'm not really but I thought I'd be nice.

Peter Milford, Aussie at Large in STANFORD - I couldn't get through to you on the
address that you gave me.  The Daemon told me off.

Can you send me a message with your phone number, etc. in it so that I can contact you
about Saturday night, 17th October.

Thanks mate,

Nigel.


Your normal transmission will now resume...
   

-- 
nsp00@juts.amdahl.com: 'All opinions mine - Not my employers...so there'

"This here's the Wattle, the symbol of our land.  You can stick it
 in a bottle, or you can hold it in your hand."  (MP - Circa 1970)
From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Ausbuy!
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:15:25 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia

One thing I hate about Ausbuy is that it implies that it is somehow wrong
and threatenning for a product to be either made in a foreign country or by a 
foreign owned company, or even if the owner is a foreigner.

If we shouldn't buy their stuff, why the hell should they buy ours?

If other countries were to apply the type of measures expressed in Ausbuy,
on Australians, Australian companies and Australian products how many Australian 
jobs would this affect?   How much would it add to our foreign debt?  Would you 
like them to do this?  If you believe in Ausbuy, then the answer must be 'yes'.

Just remember that when you leave Australia, you yourself become a
foreigner.  It's a two way street you know.  Would you like to be considered 
in the same light that Ausbuy seems to imply about foreigners?

The answer is not to cast out foreigners, but for Australian companies to
become part of the international scene in the same way that foreign
companies have become part of ours, at least to the extent where this
balances out the foreign companies participation in Australia.  Ausbuy
fails to mention that this is happenning right now, or to what extent this 
makes the fears expressed in Ausbuy less threatenning

Ausbuy is one Australian idea I would not like to see exported to other
countries.  Especially if it could affect Australia and Australians in an
adverse way.

No, I stand corrected.  The ideas expressed in Ausbuy have been expressed
many times before in many other countries.  Therefore, the ideas embraced by 
Ausbuy are just as foreign and just as imported as the foreigners they so 
dispise.  You can't have it both ways.

In my opinion, Ausbuy isn't about our long term future.  It's about fear
and isolationism.  It's about paranoia.  It's about this part of the world 
getting bigger while the rest of the world is getting smaller.  It's
about going backward when we should be going forward.

P.S.  I am Australian, living in Australia, and proud of it.

Liron Lightwood                     Internet : r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories       Phone : +61 3 253 6535
770 Blackburn Road                  Snail : P.O. Box 249 Clayton 3168 Australia
Clayton  Vic. 3168 Australia        Disclaimer : My views are not my company's
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Wanted: EnviroJob in AU
From: mborgerding@desire.wright.edu
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:39:27 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

TWIMC,
	I'm writing this for a friend of mine, Andrea Longhouse who has no
 access to the .net.  She is graduating college in December and would love to
 get a job/internship somewhere in Australia.  She is interested in working in
environmental conservation/ enviro-health.  She is looking for something that
would start between March and Dec. '93 and last at least 2 months.  She has had
 some experience in the environmental field.  She was working in Washington DC
 over the summer for a company which was lobbying for a conservation bill of
 some kind -- I'm not sure of the specifics, but I can find out if needed.  
Please E-mail any responses/prospects to me and I'll forward them to her.   
						-Mark Borgerding

P.S. BTW, I've known her since we were both six years old, and in all the time
I've known her, she's always been energetic, hardworking, efficient, 
intelligent, and pleasant to be around.  Although, you do not know me and may
not trust me as a character reference, if by some chance you should happen to
give her a job, you'll find all of the above to be true.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: C.V.Copas@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Interest rates
Reply-To: C.V.Copas@lut.ac.uk (Conn Copas)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:47:58 GMT

Can somebody mail me information on the probable direction of Australian
mortgage rates over the next year? At the moment, I'm stuck with a fixed rate
of 14.5%, which seemed like a good deal 18 months ago. I'm now being offered
10.75% for 30 months (plus a renegotiation fee), and am wondering whether to
accept now or hold off till later, like around election time. Comments?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: harsant@headplant.trl.OZ.AU (Dave Harsant)
Subject: Re: toronto and sydney bashing
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:31:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.222632.20460@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> peta@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Peter Whaite) writes:
>
>In comparison to Montreal, Melbourne is a tropical paradise. However I do
>suspect that there is a LOT more sunshine, and at least the water isnt liquid
>for half of the year.

Actually, on average, Melbourne has less rainy days and less rainfall than 
Sydney.

>
>However they are way off beam anyway -- Montreal is much more like Sydney,
>(except I can actually afford the rent), and Toronto is more like Melbourne
>(grey, flat, and trams).

No, Melbourne is green, not grey.

--
Dave Harsant,
Telecom Australia Research Laboratories  |  d.harsant@trl.oz.au
From: keane@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Matthews Keane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Interest rates
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:34:07 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

For the chap who was complaining about the interest rates in
Australia...  Consider this... I just received my bank statement and
for my Money Market account here in the DC area, I am getting 2.89% on
a Market Tier rate!  Consider that loan rates are still around 7-8%
and for cars, up to 10%.... and that credit cards are still
reaping in between 14-21% interest charges...  Can you *really*
consider the rates in Oz that bad????  Thanks to Neil Bush et.al. for
this situation.....

Just a personal opinion and observation.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: spreddan@glenn.uwaterloo.ca (Sean Reddan)
Subject: CSIRO
Organization: Earth Observations Lab
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:56:18 GMT

I need some help regarding the CSIRO Institute of Natural Resources and 
Environment.  They have laboratories in Perth, Adelaide, Griffith, and 
Canberra. My problem is that I have to contact them yesterday (Australian 
time) or today (my time) and all I have is postal addresses.  If somebody 
could provide either email or FAX numbers to any of the above labs, I will be
most grateful.  May even buy you a drink at Christmas.

Thanks in anticipation

Sean Reddan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: smcneil@metro (Shannon McNeil)
Subject: Ausbuy!
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:32:46 GMT

Well here I am reading my latest "AUSBUY GUIDE" which tells me that 
now even more dinky-di aussie companies have been sold overseas.

The list to date (probably a breach of copyright but what the hell):

Vegemite - USA
Aspro - USA
Cottees - USA (my dad picks the fruit that goes to cottees to make the money
               for USA)
Kiwi Bootpolish - USA
Henry Jones/IXL - USA
Bushells Tea - UK
Billy Tea - UK
Drizabone - UK
Rosella - UK
Bundy Rum - UK

And some new ones:

Life Savers
Minties
Jaffas
Fantales
Violet Crumble - All Swiss owned (Rowntree?)
Speedo - UK
King Gee - USA
Shelleys - USA
Fountain - Japan
R M Gow - USA
Selleys- UK
Sidchrome - USA (you canna hand a man an aussie spanner)
W A Flick - UK  (just one flick and its foreign)
Coolabah Wine - France

Is anybody else out there in netland amazed or even a little upset
that this is happening? 

Shannon "but please don't take my aeroplane jelly" McNeil
smcneil@angis.su.oz.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson)
Subject: Re: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:01:05 GMT

Vegemite is a yeast based spread. black and tarlike. Gunk left over from
brewing is used to make it, amongst other things. Overseas
equivalents/relatives are Promite and  Marmite. Bovril is completely
dis-similar being meat based. Vegemite is vegetarian.

I am not an Australian citizen, and I have 3 bank accounts. Residents need
to supply tax details or else tax is withdrawn at a 49% rate on interest 
earned. I don't know what happens for non-residents, note that many
countries have bi-lateral arrangements for audit overseas,  to cut down
on tax dodges so if this is a scheme to get rich, your milage may vary.

Citicorp, Natwest, Royal Bank of Scotland etc have branches across Australia
as well as trading partners. I think these were primarily aimed at
agribusiness and investment banking but latterly has moved into the domestic
market. Australias banking industry was de-regulated comparatively recently
(the 70's?) and so some overseas trends may not have penetrated the market.
EFTPOS and home banking have pretty high acceptance. I'd say service is ok
but even quite trivial funds transfer overseas can cost you big. 

Credit unions are a big movement here. Reduced costs because the shareholders
are the customers. Loans 1-2% below market rates. VISA tie-ins. Virtually no
over-the-counter service. Slower funds transfer.

Interest rates here are rubbery. Remember we're a third world economy, but
not SO third world that 300% profits on deals are going to be common like
Vietnam or Brazil for flash harrys playing the market. You're looking at
a housing rate around 9-10%, and 6-7% return on investment in staid accounts.
That was 15-17% and 10-12% not so long ago...

	-George
--
                         George Michaelson
G.Michaelson@cc.uq.oz.au The Prentice Centre      | There's no  market for
                         University of Queensland | hippos in Philadelphia
Phone: +61 7 365 4079    QLD Australia 4072       |          -Bertold Brecht
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: mcrosby@nyx.cs.du.edu (Matthew Crosby)
Subject: Re: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 22:10:58 GMT

In article <1au3tvINNp3a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth) writes:
>
>	Well, I have two questions, which several individuals here ought
>to be capable of answering.  What is Vegemite?  Can a non-citizen of
>Austtralia open up a bank account down under?  I know thtat in tthe
Great stuff!  Like peanut butter, only you have to spread it a lot thicker.
Try a bowlfull one day-you will like it.
>Unitetd States is it not possible for a non-cittizen of this fine
>countrty to do so, butt it is possible in some parts of the world.
Oh, damen.  You mean my US bank account is illegal?  Ooops...  Better close
it before anyone notices!!!
A
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From: mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Modern Day Miracle!
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:46:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

s342046@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au writes:
: >The whole philosophy of Free Market Economy is just a way for
: >the competitive countries like UK and USA (and Europe for that
: >matter) to rip off less competitive countries like Australia

Since the economies of the UK and the USA have been
outperformed by all the other western industrialised countries
which have been less dogmatically free market in recent years,
you couldn't be more wrong. In the UK the "free market" under
Thatcher and Major appears essentially to be a mechanism to
enable the rich to strip the country of its assets and ship
their wealth abroad as quickly as possible.

Matthew Huntbach
From: icpa@iat.holonet.net (Tony Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: International Software Jobs
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:04:45 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

The International Computer Professional Association is a member supported
organization for experienced software professionals who want to work overseas.
We have contact with over 750 technical recruitment firms in the US and
abroad. If you are interested in working overseas, contact us and we will
send you information on membership with the ICPA.


Sincerely 

Tony Rodriguez

Director ICPA


International Computer Professional Association
2261 Market Street, Suite 309
San Francisco, CA 94114
USA

Tel: (415) 695 - 7618
Fax: (415) 252 - 5769

email icpa@holonet.net
From: as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
Date: 7 Oct 1992 07:34:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


	Well, I have two questions, which several individuals here ought
to be capable of answering.  What is Vegemite?  Can a non-citizen of
Austtralia open up a bank account down under?  I know thtat in tthe
Unitetd States is it not possible for a non-cittizen of this fine
countrty to do so, butt it is possible in some parts of the world.



-- 
   any turkey
    can smoke!
From: as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Vegemitet and tthe Bank
Date: 8 Oct 1992 06:51:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mcrosby@nyx.cs.du.edu (Matthew Crosby) says:

>Oh, damen.  You mean my US bank account is illegal?  Ooops...  Better close
>it before anyone notices!!!

	Well, it looks like I stand correctted on this point.  I suppose
I just asked the wrong person about U.S. bank policy.  Anyway, it's
lovely to see how so many on the net are willing to help, particularly
when an embarassing mistake like mine offers them the opportunity to get
a sarcastic, albeit dull, jab at someone.



-- 
   any turkey
    can smoke!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 16:34:12 CDT
From: LINDA GEHARD <U43405@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Australian photography magazines

I would also like any information regarding this subject that anyone could
offer... Please email it to me, thanks for your help....

-Linda Gehard
 email: u43405@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
 IRCNICK: Marie1 (The one, the ONLY!)