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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: The mood in Columbus about Cooper
Organization: The Ohio State University
  Michael Doel writes:
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:25:17 GMT

> How is the mood in Columbus right now regarding Cooper?

     Ugly. I wrote a post to osu.sports after the Illinois game saying that I 
was disappointed that Cooper's lifeless body wasn't swinging from a lamppost in
front of the Clintonville Big Bear. No one thought this was out of line.

> Are people still all over his case or are they just waiting with
> bated breath for the next loss so they can scream bloody murder once more?

     Depends on who you talk to. Some people have the first attitude; some 
people have the second. He doesn't have many hard-core defenders out here.

>I'd like to think that if the Buckeyes were able to go 9-3 that people would
>lay off his case for awhile.

     Ah, Mike, you've been away too long. :-) It's going to take a win over
Michigan to save Cooper, and even then he might have to win the bowl game as
well. And if Ohio State loses to Indiana, he's history.

                                        Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
From: maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Jayhawk Post #44 (ABC lights up ...)
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:48:42 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

This is from the November 6, 1992 issue of the University Daily Kansan.

ABC TO LIGHT UP MEMORIAL STADIUM
Kansan staff report

   On November 14, lights will be used at Memorial Stadium for the second time
this season. Earlier this week, ABC announced it would regionally televise the
Kansas-Colorado football game. ABC will provide the lights for the game at
2:30 at the stadium.
   Bernie Kish, director of ticket operations/sales, said lights were
necessary because it would be dark by early evening. He said that officials
would decide when the lights would be turned on.
   The other night game this season, the September 24 loss to California, was
the first night game at the stadium since October 1, 1931, when the Jayhawks
played Haskell Indian Junior College.

Posted to r.s.f.c. by "Kansas Mary"
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From: pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett)
Subject: National Champs
Summary: BAMA
Keywords: Roll Tide
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:42:48 GMT

Like the guy on ESPN says!!!
Bama  COULD  GO  ALL  THE  WAY!!!!!!!!
BAMA is playing great!!! Hope they dont choke!!!
3 games until our National Championship!!!
R-O-L-L T-I-D-E!!!

(some UM fan will have some BS to say i'm sure)
From: apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:27:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov10.022730.1886
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <BxH53u.Epw@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>In <6801@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>
>| All of you out there posting that Arizona beat Washington, should stop lieing.
>| The ALL-MIGHTY washington couldn't of lost to (as all washington fans put it
>| after the Miami scare) the scrub of the Pac 10.  No way could a team as
>| powerful and dominating as Washington (We all know that Washington is the 
>| state of  football...they said so) could of lost to a nothing team,
>| which 'they' so aptly  put it to discredit Miami.
>
>That one point win by Miami over Arizona looks like a rout now. ;-)
>
>BTW Huskies, the Arizona kicker is not as accurate at 51 yards. 
>Almost two years of endless comparisons with Washington comes to a end.
>Washington blinked. Arizona cast a decisive vote.   BTW, you Huskies guys 
>were right all along, the Arizona game should be the benchmark to judge
>Washington and Miami. ;->
>
Who's arguing?  After all that fluff, it turned out to be a reasonable
benchmark.  I think that if the Huskies had won by, say, 10 or more points,
and then both Miami and Washington had gone on to remain undefeated,
Washington would have had the upper hand in the polls coming in to the bowl
games.  If they both won big on New Year's Day, we probably would have seen
another split.  

But, congrats to Miami, they deserve it!  They've got the 
inside track on the MNC.  I just hope the Huskies are *playing* on 
New Year's Day!  (say it ain't so, Billy Joe!)
From: moores@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Stephen Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Date: 8 Nov 92 17:46:07 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
: All of you out there posting that Arizona beat Washington, should stop lieing. 
: The ALL-MIGHTY washington couldn't of lost to (as all washington fans put it
: after the Miami scare) the scrub of the Pac 10.  No way could a team as powerful
: and dominating as Washington (We all know that Washington is the state of
: football...they said so) could of lost to a nothing team, which 'they' so aptly
: put it to discredit Miami.
: 
: -ds4
: 
: Watch what ya say.....it might come back and haunt you.
ditto and then some.
Roll Tide!!!!!
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trouble at the UDub
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:35:16 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov5.214700.7873@u.washington.edu>, tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
> The Seattle Times is reporting that Husky QB Billy Joe Hobert received
> a $50,000 loan from an Idaho businessman last spring.  Don James and    
> athletic director Barbara Hedges apparently were informed of the loan 
> only yesterday by the Times reporters.  The NCAA says they will not 
> pursue this until receiving a report from the UW.  An NCAA spokesman says
> the legality of the loan depends on the relationship to the player (BJ 
> says he was his golfing buddy and the man apparently has no affiliation
> to the university) and the "normality" of the payoff (there are no 
> specified payoff in BJ's loan).  National-letter-of-intent contracts say
> that no outside loans may be accepted.

He's screwed. The guy is a booster from what I heard and I would be worried
if I were a Washington fan - tell me, what are the chances that the
second string QB is the only player on the team who was offered and
accepted $$ from this guy or another booster like him? I'm gonna
guess that there are a few nervous players in that locker room right
now....


			gln

> 
> GT


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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Big8 questions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:47:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.085050@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
writes:
>Now for the rest of you Big8 readers.
>Is there anything you'd like me to change, add or subtract 
>in my reports?  Preview, review, predictions.   Are the 
>reports getting to most of you before Friday.   I'd appreciate
>any constructive criticism [as well as any praise].

Personally, I think your reports are excellent, and I really appreciate your
efforts, as it must take a considerable amount of time to put the reports
together (I suppose it is possible that your boss at McCall is a Big 8 fanatic
and forces you to make the Big 8 report).


Now, were you one of those "fan"atics who decided to tear the goalpost down
after the KSU-ISU game last night?

I can't really understand why fans would tear goalposts down after beating 3-6
Iowa State. What in the heck would happen if KSU defeated NU? The football
stadium would probably come down like the Berlin Wall.

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
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From: elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
Subject: Re: Is this really true?
Keywords: Bowl game,Pulan Weedeater Bowl
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:50:27 GMT

In article <Bx9zxA.C9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sas37147@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A. Splater) writes:
>I've joked about the Toilet Bowl, the Dust Bowl, the Soup Bowl, and
>all of that.  Everyone knows those don't exist.  But is there really
>a Pulan Weedeater Bowl for NCAA Division I teams?  What I have heard
>is that it is in Shreveport, Louisiana, and it is on the 26th of
>December.  Could anyone either verify this, or tell me that it is just
>another joke?  Thanks.
>
>Scott Splater

I know there's an Independence Bowl in Shreveport and probably like every
other bowl except the Rose, the name was bought by some big company.  Of
course there's the John Hancock bowl and I think the others have corporate
names appended to them.  

I bet they have the most well-kept field of all the bowls!

-- 
Elliott Lee
elliott@cs.uoregon.edu
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From: chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Subject: Re: Hobert, UW on the ropes.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 09:49:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.093755.18468@u.washington.edu> quendor@hardy.u.washington.edu () writes:
>   I think he was a dipshit for doing it, myself. As a UW student I feel like
> calling up the guy he got the loan from and finding out for myself if Billy
> Joe was treated differently from a non-scholarship, non-athlete student.

Of course he is treated differently!  Billy Joe is a very good friend of
his (the lender Mr. Rice) son-in-law.  So what is the big deal of lending
a BIG helping hand to your son-in-law's friend?  I wish I had such friend :-(.

Chuan Lee
From: mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: texas football
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:12:04 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

> believe me, texas does not deserve to be ranked #15, nor #20.

>From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
>  Holy spit!  Reality from a 'Horn fan! (Apologies to Jay...)
>

heck yeah!  i realize that the HORNs shouldn't be #20.  now, do you
feel that a&m should be #5???

>  Well, we ARE working on it.  I believe Colorado, OU, ND, and some others are
>listed on future schedules...not all in one year though!  It's not like you
>can schedule these games just 1 year in advance...
>

(SNL: Ed McMahon voice on) you are correct sir (SNL: Ed McMahon voice off).

>  But I'll agree we haven't faced the competition of an FSU, etc. by any 
>stretch of the imagination.  We'll find out our true ability in the Cotton
>Bowl (note the unsubtle woof).

cotton bowl 200? (even a more unsubtle woof)

>From: blake@l42al.jsc.nasa.gov (Mitch Blake)
>Hence, the scheduling changes being made for the
>mid to late nineties with ND, OU, Col. appearing (possibly) on the
>schedules.  

these look like good matchups for a&m.

>Mediocre schedule ->Probably.
>On purpose -> Probably not.

mediocre schedule and most games have been fairly close.  except the
smu game.  i don't recall the tulsa game either.  this is why
i don't think they are a #5 team.  i would rank them around 12-15 range.
as for the HORNs, #25 is a good ranking but still generous.

mike

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From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:21:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.132751.4957@news.nd.edu>
rszczerb@okeefe.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>
>I'd like to hear some opinions from loyal Canes fans out there.
>
>If Alabama stumbles and the rest of the top ten remains the same, do
>you think the Mighty Canes will play an undefeated Texas A&M team
>in the Cotton Bowl or, "chicken out" and play a once beaten Cornhusker
>team in their home stadium?
>
>                - inquiring minds want to know
>
>                        rob
>
OK.  Here's what will happen after the Gators circumscribe the nation's
second longest winning streak by beating Alabama for the third
consecutive year, in overtime, on December 5th.
 
Miami athletic director Dave Maggard holds a news conference at 7:30PM
EDT that same evening to announce that Miami has decided, after
consultation with Big East league officials, to donate the proceeds of
its bowl appearance to the Hurricane Andrew relief effort.  In order to
maximize the size of its donation, Miami has further decided to
execercise its option under the Bowl Coalition contract to play in the
bowl offering the highest payout.  The Miami players have agreed
unanimously with this decision, even though they realize that Miami must
sacrifice its best chance for a 5th national championship.
 
The bowl coalition pairings are announced during a live ESPN broadcast
the next day.  The Cotten Bowl has the first selection.  Mindful of
Miami's announcement and the fact that the Cotten pays $1.2 million less
per team than the Orange Bowl, selects ACC champion Florida State.  A
delighted Orange Bowl selects Miami, leaving Notre Dame for the Sugar.
A bemused Chris Berman steals a line from Yogi, saying "It's deja vu all
over again," referring to the fact that this year's matchups are
identical to last year's.
 
-- 
Jon_Schmidt@stortek.com  Storage Technology Corporation
(303) 673-3581 - voice   2270 South 88th Street
(303) 673-6039 - fax     Louisville, Colorado 80028-5209
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Sunday morning QB
Date: 10 Nov 1992 11:52:27 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:

>In article <1dmji8INNao7@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu> ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:
>>kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>>>o After all that, SDSU still controls it's destiny to the Holiday Bowl.
>>>  They have to beat Hawaii and Fresno St at home in the next 2 weeks.

>>All BYU fans are rooting for SDSU to beat Hawaii next week.  Then there will be
>>a four-way tie for the conference lead.

>A four-way tie in which BYU has little chance of winning any tie-breakers.
>This would probably leave them third in the conference tie-breakers, because
>of their losses to SDSU and Hawaii.

>Even without tie-breakers, Hawaii has the edge over BYU for the WAC #2 spot
>in the Aloha Bowl because of the home crowd.

>It may actually be better, bowl-wise, for BYU if Hawaii beats SDSU.
>That puts Hawaii in the Holiday Bowl (will a Big-10 team show up?)
>It leaves BYU alone in second place with Fresno State, who still have
>to play SDSU.  That would probably send them to the Aloha Bowl and a
>possible matchup with Kansas.

All true.  However, I believe the tiebreakers only decide who goes to the
Holiday Bowl, and not who the conference champions are.  I'm not sure which is
better:  1) to go to a better bowl game and not share the conference crown or
2) to be conference co-champs and go to a not-as-good bowl.
-- 
Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:01:09 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <398@rd1.interlan.com> tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez) writes:

| 
| I can't wait.  I just hope the Sugar Bowl people don't invite ND again 
| instead.  

Last Sunday night on Chan. 4 ( Miami ) the Sports Wrap-up show dropped
a rumor from the OBC, that Notre Dame doesn't want to go to the Orange Bowl,
which they are slated for now in the new alliance.  

Notre Dame is the only school that gets a bye into a big NYD bowl game,
and now they don't like the deal they agreed to.   No wonder Notre Dame 
in french means " Our Ladys ".

Would even the Sugar Bowl be stupid enough to pass up #1 and #2, just
to get Notre Dame?  I hope not, we need a real playoff system.
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: More info on Ch. Rice / Hobert (was Re: Trouble at the UDub)
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:07:40 GMT
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath

crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>He wasn't certain, but thought that Rice was from Oklahoma.

I *told* you that Washington is trying to get in the Big 8.

Next thing you know they'll drop Zona from their schedule.


--Gidi		(memeber of the J.J. Lasley fan club)
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From: WILLIAM.S.BILL.W.ZUK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("William S. Zuk")
Subject: BC ROOLZ, BABY!!!
Organization: W L I, Lowell, MA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:29:48 GMT



Here's what Boston sportswriter Dan Shaughnessy said about the game:

Notre Dame 54, Boston College 7.  How bad was it?  It got so bad that
we expected to see Sinead O'Connor run to midfield and shred a picture
of Doug Flutie.  BC suffered every other indignity you could imagine.


- Bill Zuk
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:38:30 CST
From:         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: Lee Corso's latest prediction
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.football.college

>
>In article <1992Nov10.013709.23761@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
>oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) says:
>
>> In article <BxH0Kz.DK5@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane"
>Fawcett) writes:
>
>> No way.  Corso is NOT a MIAMI fan.  He predicted Iowa , FSU and PSU would
>> beat Miami.
>
>And a fan would never, ever, predict that their team would lose...

Maybe we should let Corso join the newsgroup just to teach the rest of
us the fine art of the anti-woof....

Bapi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:48:13 GMT

William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Could it now be that UW fans are hyping up Arizona to make their Huskies
>look good?

>I don't know.  You tell me.

I think what's happening is that anybody who didn't really
know Arizona thought them somewhat of a fluke team for *almost*
beating Miami (in score, at least).  The consensus was that hey,
Arizona didn't play any other supposed quality teams and 
therefore the close score against Miami just *had* to be due
to Miami's goofs, right?

Okay, so now that Arizona has beaten UW, everybody's saying
"Hey, I guess Arizona is pretty good after all!"

allen
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big 8 woof
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:52:45 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


I'm going to followup several of these in this one.

In article <BxHsE6.2FD@news.iastate.edu>, ongh@iastate.edu (NightOwl) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.132952@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>>As for next year:
>>[from Athlon's 2 deep preseason roster]
>wow, looks like KU is gonna be really thin next year. no QB,RB,WR......looks
>like this year was gonna be their year to go for a championship,
>the offense will be short of players. Is nate florell still with the team>?or
>is he gone already? oh well...
>defensively, well, seems like KU is losing big time players too.
>
>...but they've got a heck of a coach who should be around for a long time .. :)
>
First, Alan already mentioned about Mason being gone.  If the OhioSt
coaching position opens up, then I would think Mason would probably
take it.  Rumor has it, that he has this clause in his contract.
I think this was KU's year to win it.  Florrell is a Jr this year.
I haven't seen him, so I don't know if he is still there or not.


From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)Njan writes:
>well, are they all starters? Then little Tommy is going to have some fun >playing in Boulder next year... esp considering that the whole def line 
>will be back...

Notice what I included from me in this posting?  This is from Athlon's
preseason Big 8 book.  Which means there could have been lots of changes
before the season even started.  And it listed the two-deep roster.  It
does have a complete roster, but I don't feel like typing every Sr.  So
take this as you want.  You'll notice a lot of familar names, so they
are either 1st or 2nd stringers.

From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe) writes:
>i would consider this incorrect in every aspect but the final score.
[deleted stuff]
>speculation, of course, but if you saw this game, the thought had to cross
>your mind when,

Actually, this did cross my mind.  CU has beaten/tied NU the last
3yrs.  I would guess they wanted to prove something to CU.  And that
NU called off the dogs earlier vs KU.  But from a stats point:
                          CU         NU
First Downs                9         20
Rushes-yards            22-8     78-373
Passing yards            136         55
Total yards              144        428
Return yards              33         89
Passing              12-34-3     14-4-0
Punts                 9-46.9     7-48.4
Fumbles-lost             4-3        3-0
Penalties-yards         6-47       7-71
Time of possession     17:10      42:50

		KU      NU
1stdowns	17	26
rush yds	40-128	62-351
pass yds	145	182
return yds	5	40
pass		11-30-2	8-15-0
punts		9-35	6-42
fumbles-lost	0-0	2-0
penalties	5-42	6-64
time poss	27:16	32:44


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