HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Boys N' Toys ( was Re: School is Back  etc.
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:32:49 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <17726@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>I read all of it. I came up with an image of Russ on his belly in camo
>with all these guns, scopes and a bandolier stalking his dinner in the
>form of a wabbit.

Nope, not me.  I set up the 'ol varminting rig about 300 yards from
the furry critters and wait for them to show their little furry
heads, then blow 'em into a fine pink mist with a nice frangible 55
grain softpoint.

No crawling around in the dirt for *this* boy, there's BUGS in the
dirt!

>Then another image came to mind. An Eastern European gramma goes to
>the bunny hutch with a big knife. Shriek! Whack! Slice, cook, plotz
>and dinner is on the table.

Yum - a nice dry white from the Rheingau and hare fried in almonds,
some white asparagus on the side.  Unfortunately I can't get that
here, and have to be in Europe to get rabbit/hare.

>Peeve: Men make simple matters so darned complicated with all those
>toys they MUST MUST have.

Y'know, that's true.  I was at the NM Sport Shooter's Association gun
show today, and there was a nice little S&W 29 that I just *had* to
pick up.  Never mind that the grips were too angular, or that I really
didn't need a 44 Mag, or that I wasn't prepared to reload 44 Mag, I
wanted it so I bought it.  I also bought a set of Pachmayers and 200
rounds of ammo (I'll reload the brass).  Now I need to buy new powder
(I don't have much in the medium speed I'll need) and reloading dies
and shellplates for the Dillon, and some bullet molds for casting my
own loads.

But I got a great deal on the '29...

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home
Will hack unix for food 		(.sig stolen from dt - sorry, dt)
From: bdr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (brian.d.reed)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Cardboard, cardboard, everywhere!
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:30:25 GMT
Organization: AT&T


>Not only do we have to contend with the cardboard inserts and the
>126 subscription cards that fall into our laps when we open a mag,

But they're postage-paid!  Just collect them up and drop 'em in the box.
Maybe if enough of us do it, and they get deluged with having to pay
to get those **** things back, MAYBE they'll wise up!
Do I really need 4 subscription forms in every one?  Wake up!


 Brian D. Reed    bdr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com   
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: esp51@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Rewriting History
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:47:26 GMT

JZ writes: (mostly deleted)

>for essentially the same reasons, only they were *really* being persecuted...)  So the
>wise Pilgrim fathers said "What the hell, it's the new world and there's lotsa space,
>and besides, what's he gonna do about it?" and set course for New England, figuring
>(correctly) that no one else, not the Dutch, not the English, nor any sane person
>would ever contest them for that godforsaken frozen rockpile we now call the states
>of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine.
>
>So they went there and set up a society founded everything *except* religious tolerance
>and freedom of worship. It was a 17th century Rajneeshi town. They burned their
>old women and tortured the indians and generally behaved like a bunch of televangelists
>when no one is watching......and believed that God in his heaven rejoiced at it.
>
>
This is the second most accurate and funny account of American history I've
seen.  The first, of course, is contained in "The Sot Weed Factor", a
novel by John Barth.

Scott Park (standard disclaimer)

Trickle down economics illustrated: Dan Quayle (son of Newspaper mogul)
and George Bush (son of Senator and oil tycoon) on top of a platform
simultaneously urinating on the face of a unemployed General Motors
worker who voted for them.  The crowd of corporate lawyers goes wild.
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: McDonald's and the IRA (Re: Big mac's and students)
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:44:50 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <38874@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:
=>
=>Y'know, there's so much fighting in Ireland, it's pretty much just
=>like Beirut. Except there's still a few Christians in the Middle
=>East.

The question is, does this posting reveal more ignorance of Beirut or
Ireland? Tough one.



-- 
=======Jeremy Henderson========jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk===============
From: logan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Belts
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:29:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <26186@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>In article <44604@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
>=>2. A sturdier belt, costing around #10. Invariably brown and made of
>=>embossed on them. They might have looked alright if I'd been wearing a
>=>ten-gallon hat and spurs, but they are just not my sort of thing. The

>At this point I can interject with yet another piece of my hard-earned wisdom.
>Large belt buckles originate in the great state of Texas, and are necessary
>due to the size of bellies in the great state of Texas. Any buckle any
>smaller than a dustbin lid is going to be swamped by the acres of flaccid
>gut that the average Texan male (and female, come to think of it) carries
>round his waste. This arises because the Texan landscape is so inhospitable
>to man that venturing away from the automobile life-support system is
>doomed to failure.  Natural selection has proceeded to the point where the
>only life form capable of survival is a) the armadillo

Where are all these armadillos?  I keep hearing about them, yet I've lived
in Texas 21 years now, and I don't recall ever having seen one.

Anyway, have you *been* to Texas?  Have you been to the U.S.A.?  You're
confused about the origin of belt-buckles.  The majority of the cowboy
types are in Oklahoma anyway.  They have more oil there, and they have the
bad economy to go with it.

I do have to give you that these things are available in Texas, but given
that they're apparently available in Europe, I'm not sure that counts for
much.  Besides, you'd have to go to one of those 'western' stores to get one.

!Peeve:  western stores are a *great* place to get blue jeans for cheap.

Adios,
  Logan
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From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:16:39 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct5.134746.8281@umbc3.umbc.edu>, potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
> In article <122860045@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson) writes:
>>         Where do you get that information? I have heard plenty of rumors
>>about the creepy political connections of McDonald's but never the IRA!
>>        Check your facts. That sounds like one of those rumors that starts
>>without any sort of basis in fact. 
> 
> peeve: skinhead o'connor. where i agree with some of her ideas, her methods
> 	are a bit extreme.
> 


This reminds me. My aunt told me that Skinhead was on Saturday Night Live 
a while back, and was singing with a lot of Jewish religious things around her
(I don't know what sort of things she had as props, since I don't know anyone 
who is Jewish... not counting a couple of net-people). Anyway, at the end of 
the song she holds up a picture of the Pope, which she rips to shreds, and says
"Let's fight the real enemy." Does anyone know what the HELL she was talking 
about?

Peeve: "stars" who use political causes to grandstand
Related Peeve : "stars" who use esoteric methods to grandstand, so I can't
figure out WHAT the HELL their point is!


Mike "it's all Greek to me..."
Xref: sparky alt.peeves:14956 sci.med:18114
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,sci.med
Subject: Re: *Virtual* Reality
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:03:27 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <19rbiaINN9hq@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>In article <19qtr2INN6pr@agate.berkeley.edu> henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken) writes:
>>
>>What about medical ethicists whose systems tell the hospital whether or not
>>it is proper and in what circumstances to pull the plug?
>
The APACHE system was developed by ICU physicians, not by medical
ethicists.  Some medical ethicists have criticized the system,
actually.  The APACHE system does not tell anyone when it is
proper to pull the plug.  It merely gives prognostic information
regarding the odds of survival for a given patient.  It has been
shown to be very accurate, more so than human physicians.  Should
not this information be used by doctors and families to determine
when enough is enough?

>Peeve: medical ethicists.  Such a lot of corrupt vultures I've
>never seen.
>

Why corrupt?

>This despite the fact that (1) "medical ethics" consists of
>relatively trivial extrapolations from a set of basic moral
>codes which are completely personal and irrational, and on which
>medical ethicians have no more claim to be "right" than anyone
>else; and (2) the real purpose of "medical ethics" is fending
>off lawsuits.
>

I think this is a position taken either out of ignorance or
formed from experience with a very poor ethicist.  In the cases
where I have obtained an ethics consult, they have been extremely
helpful in resolving ethical conflicts between staff members,
family members, etc.  Yes indeed, they can prevent lawsuits, since
if done right, after the ethics consultant is done there is
often a consensus opinion about what is to be done rather than
having people with smouldering grievances and resentments.
The last thing the ethicist is supposed to do is to waltz
in with a bunch of pronouncements and impose his opinion on the
physician or family.  The skilled consultant will talk people
through the options and make sure they are listening to each
other's concerns, which is quite often the problem, too many
people talking and not enough listening.  It is true that there
are some people, often physicians, who are not receptive to any
sort of "interference".  These are often the ones who get sued
and would do well to call more ethics consults when they are
at loggerheads with families.


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From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: Spokesman for Earth Election Looms
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:11:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - SF Bay, Cal Northifornia
Followup-To: alt.peeves

[ From alt.alien.visitors: ]

The candidates for Spokesman for Earth are:

Mikhail Gorbachev        Walter Cronkite         Bill Moyers
Xaviera Hollander        lightnin@wpi.wpi.edu    Leader Kibo
Cyrus Vance              Cicciolina              John Major
Dr. Timothy Leary        Mother Theresa          Pierre Salinger
Jesus of Nazareth        Pele                    Stephen Hawking
Margaret Thatcher        Geoff Miller, American  Gene Spafford
Mel Gibson               Carl Sagan              Hilary Clinton
Peter Gabriel and Brian Eno                      Boris Yeltsin
Steven Spielberg and George Lucas                "The Pope"
Gary Stollman            John Winston            The Dalai Lama
Pee-Wee Herman           Robert Redford          Cindy Crawford
Richard Nixon            John Romer              James Burke
William F. Buckley       Barbra Streisand        Princess Diana
Rick Gordon              "Anybody but David Frost"
Dizzy Gillespie          Umberto Eco             Johnny Carson
Nelson Mandela           Anita Hill              Ingmar Bergman
Samuel Ramey             Aretha Franklin         John Updike
Frank Sinatra            Li Po                   Jimmy Carter
"Anyone in Bangladesh, Somalia, or parts of the former Soviet bloc that have
been ruined by pollution"                        Ted Williams
"someone who does something nice"                Geoff Miller, Australian
Robert Sheaffer          Captain Kangaroo        William S. Burroughs
Idi Amin                 Laurie Anderson         Mary Shafer
Harpo Marx


Voting begins at 00:00 GMT Monday, 28 September, and ends 00:00 Wednesday,
30 September, 1992.

To vote for one candidate, send Email to Earth@ed.ac.uk, with the line

	Vote: <Candidate Name>

somewhere in the body of the message, for instance:

	Vote: Dizzy Gillespie

or

	Vote: Mary Shafer

Votes must be timestamped between the opening and closing times to be counted,
though they may arrive at any time after the opening of the voting booth.
Votes will be counted and the results posted Friday, 2 October, 1992.

For an expanded version of these instructions, see article
"The Voting Booth" <44763@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> in alt.alien.visitors,
dated 10:44:06 GMT, 24 Sep 92.

-- 
Rick Gordon      | "Often in error, never in doubt." 
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Pained Whale?
Keywords: Losers
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:01:10 GMT

In <1992Oct06.005208.22550@CS.ORST.EDU> tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford) writes:

>This last week I've seen a few episodes of much touted wit and Bush 
>cheerleader (apologist isn't at all right) Rush Limbaugh's TV show.
>I don't think the rants and simplistic barbs this man is launching
>would land him in the upper 50% here in alt.peeves.  I'm not saying 
>this because I disagree with his politics, either.  I would be greatly
>pleased to  see him expose the hypocrisies of leftist types and hang
>them with their own inconsistancies.  His insults are childish and seem
>to lack content.  My reaction is more disappointment than anything else.

I wish you people would warn me before you launch into barbs against
Mr. Limbaugh!  At least give me a second or two so that I can cover
the personally autographed picture of Rush that I have on the wall of 
my awfis.

ObPeeve:  I have a coffee maker in my palatial penthouse offices.  Sometimes
          I'll make a pot (Maxwell House Columbian Supreme - the best!) in
          the afternoon if I am dragging.  Quite often, I'll leave the pot
          on when I go home.  Next morning:  burned coffee cinders in the
          bottom of the pot!  To coin a phrase, "the coffee that will
          explode."

          So, I have to let the glass pot cool off before I can hope to
          use it.  That means I have to go downstairs and get that stuff
          down there if I want coffee in the morning.

And how about this?  The VP debates are to be held in my town of Atlanta!
(disregard the Denver Univ. posting site - that's just where my peeves
post from).  Should be fun watching Gore get his dick kicked into the
dirt by Quayle and/or Vice Admiral Stockdale, Perot's running-mate.  I
simply MUST have tickets to it - screw the Braves in the World Series!
If it comes down to debate or snapping photos at the World Series, I'll
pick the debate any day!
--
"Yes, he really said that!"
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: Blair.Haworth@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Blair Haworth)
Subject: George n' Leni [was Re: corporate slime] 
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:34:55 GMT

Rick Gordon writes:

>If we didn't have "Triumph of the Will", we never would have seen "Star
>Wars" (target of opportunity, I know).  Leni Riefenstahl was a director
>with the perfect setup: unlimited budget and a patron who would believe
>anything.  The result was insane, but stunning, Entertainment. 

Righty-right.  A few years back, my wife and I got to see an extralong cut
of the thing, and giggled like hell to see the obliquely-oriented
intronarrative crawling monolith-like into the sky, just like You Know Who.
  
>-- Rick Gordon   
>rickg@netcom.com  [sorry to mangle yer .sig; new editor]

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whose favorite Beatle is Ringo." --P.J.O'Rourke / In case I've frightened
anyone:

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From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: Belts
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:18:24 GMT

In article <80663@ut-emx.uucp> logan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw) writes:

>
>Where are all these armadillos?  I keep hearing about them, yet I've lived
>in Texas 21 years now, and I don't recall ever having seen one.
>

Okay, it's been a long time since I was last in the Lone Star State, but
if memory serves, armadillos are flat shiny things that are used to decorate
the highway.  I don't remember them being palced any particular set distance
from each other, but if you look out the window, and down at the road, you
should see at least one every hour or so.

I don't really see the purpose to them, but then again, I'm not a Texan.
I'm from New York City, where we decorate our streets with winos and
bag ladies.

Jenny

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Quisp (was Re: *Virtual* Reality)
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:40:55 GMT

jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:

: One reality?  How do you possibly describe this one universal reality.  As
: I look around me I see my office.  My reality consists of me sitting at my
: desk rebutting your circular argument.  It includes some roses on my window
: sill, and a photo of my husband lying on the couch eating Quisp & reading
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
: a back issue of Mad magazine.  I assume that you are not perceiving these
: things.  Are they part of your reality?  I know they're part of mine, and
: if there's only one reality, then they must be part of yours.
:

I haven't eaten Quisp since it was taken off the market in Upstate New York in  
the mid-70s, although I saw one box of it in 1985 ... the Quisp keeper was  
greedy, and wouldn't let me have even one Quisplet.  Is there anywhere or  
anyplace that still sells that stuff?

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From: mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael S. Zraly)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Outta my way, dammit!
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:05:48 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston
Originator: mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu


Peeve:  People persist in impeding my progress.

First Scenario: The Taxi

   My wife and I are driving to work.  It's 10:50 pm on a weeknight.
Traffic is light.  The only vehicle immediately in front of us is a
taxi -- moving at 10mph *less* than the stated speed limit.  Not for a
block or two as it looks for a particular house number, but for a
couple of *miles*.  The driver of said cab is apparently unaware that
once he is in a rotary, he has right of way; he lets everybody enter
the rotary while he is *stopped* in the rotary.  What kind of cabbie is
this?  I'm used to cabbies on speed, Richard Petty wannabees in 4-door
sedans, not recent driving-school graduates.

Second Scenario: The Subway

   We're not driving, we're on the subway, or rather, we'd like to be.
The Green Line of Boston's subway has five separate westbound lines
that share the eastern portion of their track.  Stacy and I are
downtown, heading for the car we see heading our way.  We only need to
go one stop down the line, before the tracks diverge.  The couple ahead
of us runs up to the train.  Apparently they decided that the train is
not for them; they need a train that takes a different path after the
divergence.  So do they step aside so that they no longer block the
entrance?  'Course not.  They stand there as if any train of no use to
them was of no use to anybody else.

Third Scenario: The BDI

   Again my wife and I are on our way to work.  This time we get as far
as an intersection with a road that meets the on we are on at 45
degrees or so from straight ahead.  There is a light here with a right
turn arrow for the right lane.  A car is stopped at the red light.  The
right turn light turns green.  The car doesn't move.  Eventually cars
behind us start honking; we start honking.  Driver, in his early-to-mid
twenties gets out of car: "what's the fucking problem?!"  "The lights
green you dumb fuck" yells my wife.  Away he goes, redfaced.  We
progress, just as the light turns red again.

-- 
Mike Zraly		Laziness: you Know it Makes Sense
mzraly@cs.umb.edu		-- Charles Stross
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: School is Back in Session ( Was Re: Rewriting History
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Organization: McOlsen's Lutefisk Burgers -- one served.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:32:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.152428.16354@cas.org> esp51@cas.org () writes:

>   I quit bovine products and meat a while ago.  I have lost about
>15 pounds so far, and have saved about 100 a month on my food
>bill, including the 50 I used to spend at McD's.  I also have
>a lot more energy, as my body spends less time processing
>cow fat and salt and cholesterol and steriods and growth harmones and
>antibiotics and triglycerides and fecal contaminants.

	If you spent $50 a *month* at McD's I can understand why
quitting would cause such a weight reduction and better health.  If
you had continued to eat meat of your own killing, you wouldn't
have ate any of the above shit anyway.

>   Becoming a rabbid(t? hey) vegitarian seems
>to offend the sensibilities of Iowa Dan the Combine Man,
>so I know I must be on the right track.

	No, it doesn't offend my sensibilities.  Your attempt to stuff
your views in my face without anything to back them, and in a preachy
manner, does.  I don't care if you eat whole banannas and peel them
with your tongue too, I just don't particularly want to read about it.
At least, not on alt.peeves.

>Peeve:  Trickle down economics.  The only thing trickling
>is piss down the legs of bonehead working and middle class
>republicans as their jobs are shipped overseas.

	It amazes me to no end that people can't seem to connect the
idea that 75% of the employed are employed by private enterprises,
as opposed to government-funded enterprises.  But, when sucking off
the public tit is considered your due, I suppose you don't mind
hindering your betters as they try to get ahead.

--
<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>