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From: pjones@mento.oit.unc.edu (Paul Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: current WAIS developments
Keywords: wais servers clients search engines
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:43:30 GMT
Reply-To: pjones@mento.oit.unc.edu (Paul Jones)
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology

I'll be giving a brief talk at the FAXON conference early in May. Much of what  
I'll be covering will be recent WAIS developments here at UNC, most of which  
has been done by Jim Fullton, but that's only because I don't know for sure  
what some of the rest of you are up to. 
If you are involved in a project using WAIS or developing special WAIS clients  
or servers, please drop me a note. I'd like to be able to include at least a  
mention of your work in my talk.
I'm particularly interested in special purpose clients and servers, multimedia  
applications, WAIS inside other systems (Gopher and WWW for example), and  
search engine improvements and extentions.

Thanks in advance,
Paul

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chermesh
From: chermesh@chen.bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: A list of WAIS sites (posting again)
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:19:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ramon.1992Apr6.181957.7957
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel


Is there a place where I can find a list of WAIS sites?
Or, even better, can anyone post such a list on the alt.wais?

                   Ran Cheremsh
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Ran Chermesh                                  E - M A I L
Behavioral Sciences Dept.                     ===========
Ben-Gurion University                  Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL
Beer-Sheva 84105                                 CHERMESH@CHEN.BGU.AC.IL
Newsgroups: alt.wais
From: ken@isasun-1.edm.isac.ca (Ken Bobey)
Subject: Re: security issues for waisserver?
Reply-To: ken@isasun-1@edm.isac.ca (Ken Bobey)
Organization: ISA Corporation, Edmonton, AB
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 14:10:08 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.123109.26294@samba.oit.unc.edu> fullton@rhumba (Jim Fullton) writes:
>In article <9203301909.AA23735@fantasy.gatech.edu.gatech.edu> michael@FANTASY.GATECH.EDU (Michael Mealling) writes:
>>I have a few wais archives of information that we cannot allow access to
>>from outside the campus. Has anyone done any modifications to waisserver that
>>will allow me to specify a mask for allowed ip numbers?
>>
>
>Yes - it's quite easy.  You can put a  simple hack like this in
>server.c:
>
>if (use_stdio == TRUE) {
>    if(strncmp(host_name,"128.109.",8) && strncmp(host_name,"152.2.",6) ){
>        waislog(WLOG_MEDIUM, WLOG_CONNECT,
>              "Rejected connection from: %s. %s", host_name, VERSION);
>        exit(0);
>}
>
>It would be very simple to put an "exclude list" feature in.

How about a feature based on user/group IDs for local access (e.g. UNIX groups)?
This is a "finer grain" protection scheme than IP addresses.

I've had questions from a number of users about how they can restrict document
to a limited set of people...

-- 
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#835 10040-104 Street               TEL: (403) 420-8081
Edmonton, AB, CANADA T5J 0Z2        FAX: (403) 420-8037
From: bcs@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Makefiles, security hooks, OW2
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:28:43 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi all,

one of my lords-and-masters has taken an interest in WAIS, so I recently
built b4, and today b4.1, on our group of Sun4s.

I've used gcc 2.1, and found that in ./lib/Makefile there are two bald 
references to "cc" rather than "$(CC)".  This really messed the make up.
Only mentioning it so that others might be spared that quick moment of 
"aaarrrrgggghhh!" before you realise it is simple - I guess it could be
fixed in the distribution too...

More seriously, is there any plan to put some authentication/security hooks 
into the server software?  We had in mind using WAIS as the base for a small
special-purpose distributed database, and one of the initial aims was to 
enforce (politely) giving as well as receiving information.  Sadly, I can see
no way to log the identity of a caller (the machine yes, the user no) let
alone anything fancy (call-back, name/host authentication, automatic email...).

Yes, I could hack the server, but the-power-that-is wanted this to be a 
drop-in addition to WAIS - a wrapper for the client, a new client at most - 
so that users wouldn't have to bother their sysAdmins - I gather he thinks 
we're a little unapproachable for the average user 8-|

Oh, while I have your attention, has the X11 client failed for anyone else 
using OpenWindows2?  Xwais reports an X11 version incompatibility between 
the Athena Widgets and the Intrinsics (in a nice little window mind-you) 
and halts.  Not dying for this, we're using the emacs interface.

TIA,

+-Brent Summers, U of Waikato, NZ----------------------------------------+
|      All opinions expressed are, of course, solely my own errors.      |
+------------------------------------------------------bcs@waikato.ac.nz-+
From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Re: Connection-Machine Server down?
Date: 13 Apr 1992 15:23:08 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: us
NNTP-Posting-Host: leander.think.com

In article <W7PHBQPF@cc.swarthmore.edu> mhasbro1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Mary Hasbrouck) writes:
>I haven't been able to connect to the Connection-Machine Server for some time.
>(I'm using the address 131.239.2.100 port 210, which came with my WAIStation
>program, and which worked a few months ago but not the last few times I've
>tried.)  I can connect to other WAIS servers, just not this one.  Anybody 
>know what's going on?  

Yes, I know what's going on. 

Several weeks ago, the public CM WAIS server moved from cmns.think.com
to cmns-sun.think.com. I left a server running on cmns.think.com which
answered every query with a diagnostic message saying to use
cmns-sun.think.com (131.239.2.110) instead. If you download new
sources from the directory of servers, you'll find that they all
indicate the new location. 

Last Friday, cmns.think.com breathed its last. At the same time,
cmns-sun was moved to a different machine room. So, the server was
down completely last Friday. The hardware hasn't completely recovered
from the move yet, so the public server isn't yet back in action. It
might be back later today (Monday), or maybe not until tomorrow. 

-- 
Ephraim Vishniac    ephraim@think.com   ThinkingCorp@applelink.apple.com
 Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142
        One of the flaws in the anarchic bopper society was
        the ease with which such crazed rumors could spread.
chermesh
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: A list of WAIS sites
From: chermesh@chen.bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 21:24:51 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel



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Ran Chermesh                                  E - M A I L
Behavioral Sciences Dept.                     ===========
Ben-Gurion University                  Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL
Beer-Sheva 84105                                 CHERMESH@CHEN.BGU.AC.IL
Newsgroups: alt.wais
From: jbowes@u.washington.edu (John E. Bowes)
Subject: Re: Where is PC/Windows Client Software?
Organization: Sch of Cmu, U. of Washington
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:45:09 GMT
Newsreader: MS Windows WinVN

In article <1992Apr10.153255.1725@nic.csu.net>, root@odie.santarosa.edu () says:
>
>Greetings All:
>
>I've seen mention in a few messages of DOS and Windows client software
>but haven't been able to find a place to FTP it.  I looked on think.com
>and couldn't seem to locate it there.  Maybe I'm going blind in my
>old age.
>
PC-DOS WAIS client software can be FTP'd from: ftp.oit.unc.edu 
(128.109.157.30) in: pub/waqis/UNC/DOS. A Win3 version is also
available but requires Novell's Lan Workshop as well. The plain DOS
versions only needs the gratis Clarkson Telnet drivers.
From: brown@slc8.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: wais of Homebrew "Cats Meow" recipies books?
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:14:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.001411.5183
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.


I know that there is a wais of the Usenet general recipies, how bout
the homebrew stuff??

Later.
Dan
-- 
Dan Brown
brown@ins.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: alt.wais
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Things you'd like to see WAISed.
Followup-To: alt.wais
Reply-To: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:34:41 GMT

Does anyone know if the various Actors, Actresses, Writers, Directors,
Producers, etc. lists are available on a WAIS server anywhere?  I can see
two ways that I would like to access this data.  The default format is
a list of actors/etc and the works that they have done.  But an inverse
type of list - given a movie, tv show, etc., show me everyone connected
in the database, would also be very useful.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.wais,list.wais-discussion
chermesh
From: chermesh@chen.bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: A list of WAIS sites
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:12:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: ramon.1992Apr6.181207.7849
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

Can anyone post a list of WAIS sites, or an address where such a listing can
be ftp'ed from?
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Ran Chermesh                                  E - M A I L
Behavioral Sciences Dept.                     ===========
Ben-Gurion University                  Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL
Beer-Sheva 84105                                 CHERMESH@CHEN.BGU.AC.IL
Newsgroups: alt.wais
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: WAIS Article in Communications Week
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1992 22:15:54 GMT

 Dennis> == Dennis Shiao <shiao@ans.net> 

 Dennis> The March 16 issue of Communications Week has an article written by
 Dennis> Carl Malamud entitled "WAIS: Is It the Lotus 1-2-3 of the Internet ?"

Well, Mitch Kapor *does* use WAIS quite a bit... ;-)
--
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System Manager & Postmaster     |  "An editor comes with a guarantee and a
Electronic Frontier Foundation  |    toll free customer service number."
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Newsgroups: alt.wais
From: tfiske@qualcom.qualcomm.com (T.J. Fiske)
Subject: Re: source code
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:45:06 GMT

brewster@quake.think.com (Brewster Kahle) writes:


>Probably the best place to start is the /wais/wais-8-b*.tar.Z@think.com.
>This has full source for a couple of clients.

>I dont know much about OS2, but if starting from a DOS version is better,
>you might want to contact jim fullton@rhumba.oit.unc.edu.

>-brewster


I trying to establish clients on all the systems here.  Currently the best
interface has been the one provided by the WAIStation on the Macintosh.  IF
you can get the source code for it and then do your port to OS/2.  The code
for the Macintosh is written in Think C 4.0 object classes.  Which is very
much like C++.  Currently I am re-writing the macintosh version to be
compleately C++ and free from the backwards Think C compiler.

I don't know how similar OS/2 code is to any other code, but since it does
appear to be object based, starting with object based code might be the best
way to go about creating it.

My 2 bits,

	-- T.J. Fiske

------------------------------
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Room A-242			E-Mail: tfiske@qualcomm.com
10555 Sorrento Valley Rd.       Phone:  (619) 587-1121 x5763
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Newsgroups: alt.wais
From: mhasbro1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Mary Hasbrouck)
Subject: Connection-Machine Server down?
Organization: Computing Center
Distribution: us
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:38:58 GMT


I haven't been able to connect to the Connection-Machine Server for some time.
(I'm using the address 131.239.2.100 port 210, which came with my WAIStation
program, and which worked a few months ago but not the last few times I've
tried.)  I can connect to other WAIS servers, just not this one.  Anybody 
know what's going on?  

Mary Hasbrouck
Natural Sciences Computing Coordinator
Swarthmore College

mhasbro1@cc.swarthmore.edu
From: brewster@quake.think.com (Brewster Kahle)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Re: source code
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:07:32
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: quake.think.com
In-reply-to: tools@oasys.dt.navy.mil's message of 3 Apr 92 18:24:28 GMT


Probably the best place to start is the /wais/wais-8-b*.tar.Z@think.com.
This has full source for a couple of clients.

I dont know much about OS2, but if starting from a DOS version is better,
you might want to contact jim fullton@rhumba.oit.unc.edu.

-brewster



In article <17558@oasys.dt.navy.mil> tools@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Janet Platt) writes:
Path: think.com!mips!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!dtix!oasys!tools
   From: tools@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Janet Platt)
   Newsgroups: alt.wais
   Date: 3 Apr 92 18:24:28 GMT
   Reply-To: tools@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Janet Platt)
   Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
   Lines: 3

   wais client?  I am trying to write an OS/2 interface.

   -tools
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Re: Mail gateways to wais
Date: 31 Mar 92 17:41:28 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central


 DB> == Darren Bock <sgccdeb@citec.oz.au> 

 DB> Has anybody thought about providing a mail gateway to wais for all
 DB> of us poor unfortunates out here that use mail-ftp gateways for our
 DB> file transfers.

 DB> We cannot use archie as there is no mail-archie gateway and it
 DB> becomes a lot harder to find software without full ftp access.

 DB> Wais becomes extremely tempting in my situation when I am trying to
 DB> find information.

I would also like to see a mail-WAIS gateway, though I'd like to point
out that there *is* a mail-Archie gateway already.  Just mail
archie@archiesite (archie@archie.au, in your case) and insert 'prog
program' in the body of the message.
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Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Where is PC/Windows Client Software?
From: root@odie.santarosa.edu ()
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:32:54 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, California
Keywords: DOS Windows Client
Originator: root@odie.santarosa.edu

Greetings All:

I've seen mention in a few messages of DOS and Windows client software
but haven't been able to find a place to FTP it.  I looked on think.com
and couldn't seem to locate it there.  Maybe I'm going blind in my
old age.

I'd appreciate hearing from someone via email who can help.

Thanks,

Dave



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**   Supervisor, Campus Data/Telecom       1501 Mendocino Ave.              **
**   dave@cs.santarosa.edu                 Santa Rosa, CA  95401            **
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu (Smiling Wolf)
Subject: Re: Poetry conceived while dreaming.
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:13:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.025558.10909@husc3.harvard.edu>, filippi1@husc9.harvard.edu (David Filippi) writes:
> The other day I woke up from an afternoon nap with two stanzas of a fairly
> involved non-rhyming poem in my head, sort of "visible" but fading rapidly.
> 
> I switched on my Mac and entered as much as possible, then finished the
> poem with my conscious mind... it's not a great poem, but it's sort of 
> interesting.
> 
> Has this ever happened to anyone else?

One person comes to mind instantly.  Samuel Taylor Colridge was in a sleep
induced by consuming opium (for medicial reasons) when he dreamed the premise
for the poem, "Kubla Khan".  It's easily one of my favorite poems.

Interestingly, he began to write it as soon as he awoke, but was interrupted by
an acquaintance visiting for business reasons.  When he returned to the poem,
he realized to his horror that he could no longer remember _any_ of it.  It's
obvious where this occurred in the poem: it's where he starts talking about
"a damsel with a dulcimer".
 
> I'll e-mail a copy of the poem if people are interested.

Please do: I'd be glad to read it.  :-) 

> --Dave 
> (filippi1@husc.harvard.edu)

					Your humble servant,
					    Smiling Wolf

sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
sister moon will be my guide
From: heard@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Poetry conceived while dreaming.
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:19:47 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <1992Apr10.025558.10909@husc3.harvard.edu>, 
filippi1@husc9.harvard.edu (David Filippi) writes:
> The other day I woke up from an afternoon nap with two stanzas of a fairly
> involved non-rhyming poem in my head, sort of "visible" but fading rapidly.
> 
> I switched on my Mac and entered as much as possible, then finished the
> poem with my conscious mind... it's not a great poem, but it's sort of 
> interesting.
> 
> Has this ever happened to anyone else?

Yes, to Samuel Taylor Coleridge -- see his preface to 
"Kubla Khan".

> 
> I'll e-mail a copy of the poem if people are interested.
> 
> --Dave 
> (filippi1@husc.harvard.edu)
> 

Congratulations on getting some of it down. Please post
the poem here. I'm sure many people would be
interested. 

Take care
Ronno
From: abbey1@husc9.harvard.edu (Joshua Abbey)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dream Control and Sharing
Keywords: Help!
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:49:12 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr10.002637.2326@news.nd.edu> jperedo@bach.helios.nd.edu (jayme peredo) writes:
>
>Help!  Would the very nice person from UC Santa Cruz
>who sent me their paper on this topic please re-email
>it to me.  I accidentally lost it before I got a chance
>to read it.  Thanks!
>
>--jayme


	And if they could possibly forward it to me as well,
	I'd be ever so happy and appreciative...

			*grin*

				Thanks!

				-Josh
				abbey1@husc.harvard.edu

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                "Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend,
                 We were all equal in the end."  - Pink Floyd 
	                 		     	--------------(==
From: cynthia@mardi.East.Sun.COM (Cynthia Grundler (Sun NY Metro Receptionist))
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Death in Dreams
Keywords: Death
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:02:04 GMT
Reply-To: cynthia@mardi.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mardi.east.sun.com

Over the last two weeks I had seen a good deal of discussion regarding 
death and dying in dreams, though due to "operating difficulties", was 
unable to post any of my own experiences.  Things seem to be back in order
now, so here goes.  
    
To get right to the point, I've died in my dreams a number of times, or
at least have experienced situations that under any other circumstances
would have certainly left me dead. Gun shot wounds to the head, multiple
stab wounds, train collisions and a head on collision with an oncoming
Kenworth tractor trailor truck.(Not all in the same dream.)  Yes, I do 
tend to eat a lot of spicy food late at night.  Makes for livelier dreams!
Anyway, when these things occur, I recall what could best be described as
an experience simular to descriptions I have heard of dying, for a time I
seem unable to react to anything, and sometimes I spend the remainder of 
the dream observing things in a detachted way. There has never been any
overwhelming sense of dread or concern, although I can recall one time being
quite irritated at having been pulled from the action, so to speak.  Other
times, (more often) I refuse to give up. So what if I'm dead?  Why should 
that stop me?  Maybe I've watched to many "Night of the Living Dead" type 
movies, or maybe it's just that I've never held to death being the end of 
existence.  Maybe it just takes a little bit more to "Kill" me in my dreams,
and I'm not REALLY "Dead" yet.  More often than not, these dreams aren't 
lucid as far as I can tell.  Just as an amusing side note, in respect to 
this vague line of what is dead and isn't.  When I am faced in my dreams
with some sort of horror, be it human or otherwise, that I want dead, I have always felt that the same rules apply.  The only methods I've found that are 
100% are either dismemberment, decapitation, and/or cremation. Like I said,
spicy foods and gory movies.

One other thing.  I've been reading this group for roughly a month, and this
is my first post.It is fascinating to discover that there are more people out
there who have a great range of dreams.  Until this point, I had found that
most people had very limitted and infrequent dreams, and looked at me as  
being strange. I've noticed that there has been much talk of lucid dreaming, which I have experienced on occasion, but little discussion of overall
dream frequency in general.  I believe that there is a strong connection be-
tween a well worked (or overworked) imagination and the quality and quantity
of dreams, or lack of.  I wake easily, and seem to wake between dreams, and
have often experienced four or more in a single night.  Two or three seems
to be my average.  I'd love to hear from any one who has anything to say on 
this.

Cynthia (Hazel)
cynthia@mardi.East.Sun.COM
From: jmarlan@titan.nmt.edu (Jon Marlan)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Fishy dream
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:28:06 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology


I had a pretty strange dream last night.  I dreamt that 
I still had my ten gallon aquarium and in it, along with
some of my old fish, was a fair sized 12-inch trout.  It
obviously did not have much room to move about in.  I 
noticed after a while that this fish was hurting itself
and was starting to bleed a little bit.  After a while 
it was nearly dead.  I put my hand in the aquarium and 
it squirmed away from my hand.  Soon afterward, it was
dead.
  
After it had died, I did not immediately fish (pardon 
the pun) him out -- I'm not sure why I waited.  I remember
looking at it and seeing my other (much smaller) fishes
eat parts of him (pretty gross).  One of these fishes, 
I think it was either a Zebra Danio or a Black Skirt Tail,
took a strand of him and tugged on the fish like it 
was made of cotton -- the fish began to unravel.  I decided
that it was time to get the fish out.  Well, by this time
the fish had turned green and was barely recognizable.  I
threw it away in disgust.   

Does anyone have any insight into this rather morbid dream?
Could it have possibly stemmed from the fact that I had a 
bad reaction to some tuna fish I ate the other day?  


Jon
jmarlan@titan.nmt.edu

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