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From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: amendment 2
Organization: Netsys Inc.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:05:48 GMT

In article <1dhd1bINNf46@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
>
>In a previous article, PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Judith E. Schrier) says:
>
>>>Would you like me to call you something nasty in return now?  To keep things
>>>going?  Christian-bashing is fun, isn't it?  Well?  About as fun as
>>>gay-bashing?
>>
>>A hit! A very palpable hit!
>>
>Mama, you've been watching one too many bad swashbuckler movies lately.:-)
>Maybe he'll take the point <ducks> and shut up?  Nahh....... 
>
Funny, ain't it? How criticizing the beliefs of one who opposes the
bigotry of another is accused of "Christian bashing?" Hiding beind
Christianity to express bigotry is no virtue. Flaunting it to defend
bigory is hypocritical, especially from one oferring to sell sexual
favors. You've proudly put yourself in bed with bigots, Ruth, 
and if you don't like the heat then maybe you should either confront
the reasons for the responses or change bedmates.

Jim Thomas

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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: November 7
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On Sat, 7 Nov 1992, Frank wrote:

> And to think that there was a time when I thought I would never
> live to see this day.  Go figure.

Good to be right, eh, Frank?

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:25:00 CST
From:         "Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)"
 <TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Affirmative Action and the Clueless

Steve writes:

   >Hop on the clue bus, Carol.  If university affirmative action
   >offices used income rather than skin color as their primary
   >indicator of "underserved populations," there'd be a lot more
   >hillbillies and other so-called "white trash" on campus, and the
   >literature and experiences of marginalized people would include
   >tabloids, fundamentalist beliefs, and possibly nativist groups.
   >The chattering classes would really enjoy having to bone up on
   >those subjects, wouldn't they?

I'll save commentary on the flawed "if/then" logic and premises for
another time.  But, I think Steve makes the common mistake of
confusing affirmative action policies with student recruitment
practices.  Perhaps he hasn't noticed, but at NIU, which draws from an
area heavily Hispanic and Black (and very low on "hillbillies" and
"white trash"), the student body is over 90 pct white.  He also seems
to be unaware that the curriculums of the schools of which I'm aware
contain a strong core of literature, history, and cultural targetting
of a broad array of groups. In a previous post, Steve indicated that
one defining feature of "white trash" is lack of education. One
pursuing an education presumably moves out of the category of "white
trash." Black students, however, appear to remain "black" regardless
of education. I suggest to Steve that social stigma against blacks is
far greater than against "white trash."

Steve also seems to err in judging that students from "marginal
populations" are somehow less competent than others.  He seems not to
be aware that, despite some problems at NIU in the mid 1980s, that our
CHANCE program (a program for "special admissions for ***ALL***
STUDENTS!!!!!--check out the figures!) has a graduation rate about the
same as for non-CHANCE students.

There are problems with affirmative action, but I'm not sure that
error-filled hyperbole helps identify or resolve them.

Jim (who looks for a balance) Thomas
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Subject: Re: To Neal and To Brownies
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:13:32 GMT
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> No, it wasn't Geoff's, but now I can't remember what it *was*
> (no surprise, I guess). Don, do you remember? Natalie, what
> did we eat?

I think we ate some kind of sandwiches.  Maybe smoked turkey?  I remember
that the food was good.  The setting was sort of up a hill, I think.  I
have a vague memory of windows that sort of looked down on Providence streets.
It was somewhere in the campus area.  I can't remember now whether we drove
or walked from your office.  We ordered the food at a counter and then went
to a table.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Cut it out/ question
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Posted on 11 Nov 1992 at 22:17:11 by Rita Marie Rouvalis
>Frank might know this:  Olga, one of the women in my poetry class,
>is looking for a word processing program that will allow her to
>type in the Cyrillic (spelling?  Russian, anyhow) and print it out
>on an IBM PC clone.  Anyone?

WordPerfect.

Karen
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From:         JL0104@HDC.HHA.DK
Subject:      Re: synth vs. sampler
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Hi
Has anyone heard about the new PC soundcards, SoundBlaster Pro 16 and Audio
 Spectrum Pro 16?
How many voices do they have?
Can you use the sampling facility from a sequencer program (Catwalk /WIN)?

JL0104@hdc.hha.dk
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:06:30 CST
From:         Joseph Fosco <B38669@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV>
Subject:      MIDI programming with Windows?

Has anyone done any Windows MIDI programming, particularly
with Turbo C++.  Also, has anyone done programming using Windows'
MIDI mapper Any references would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Joseph Fosco

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:06:00 +0800
From:         H8710244@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Subject:      Re: LAPC-1 MCB-1
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Do you mean that you just connect the cables and no electronic component?
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From:         "(Michael Colicos)" <mcolicos@NBA19.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAPC-1 MCB-1
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Yes, I believe the IC's you get are for ..... the metranome!
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From:         H8710244@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Subject:      Re: LAPC-1 MCB-1
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One IC is used for strengthen the signal and one to prevent shortage if the
computer and the MIDI device have got different grounds.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:42:00 EST
From:         NLOWREY@DREW.BITNET
Subject:      Re: About MOD files
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In article <tfilt378563@drew.edu>, H8710244@HKUCC.HKU.HK writes:
> Dear subscribers,
>
>                  Do you know if there is any document describing the file
>  formatof MOD files? Please tell me if you find one. Thank you in anticipation
   .
>
> from,
> Roland
> h8710244@hkucc.hku.hk

There is a file on the Compuserve MidiForum called "MODFMT.ZIP" which
contains MOD file formatting information. This forum contains
many files devoted to MOD player/editors, songs, and technical
information. I can recommend a program called MFED (for Mod File
Editor) as being the best shareware product for  playing and editing
MOD files. (There are others which have better graphics - like
WHACKER - but it has some implementation problems. These programs
require at least a 286 at 12 mhz. If you want any more information,
you can call me at 201 408-3421.
From: BROWN1@NIEHS.BITNET (Bruce Brown x12893)
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>In article <igrdb.720183817@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> igrdb@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>(Ingo Gringer) writes:
>Sorry, I know, this is shurely a FAQ, but I didn't this group very often...
>
>I'm looking for a cheap MIDI-Card for a PC (may be an XT). It can
>be a built-in-card or something to use the connectors on the
>back of the PC (LPTx, COMx).
>
>Is there something recommendable?
>
>Thanks for any hints!
>
>Ingo
>
         --------------------------------------------------

>>I bet it would be pretty simple to just make your own... this depends
>>on how much electronic stuff the PC's require for a similar
>>device. I know that for my first MIDI card there was only one TTL
>>circuit and a few resistors. It looked really cheap. And it worked
>>very well.

        ----------------------------------------------------

 Along the same lines, in the March 1992 issue of Radio Electronics there
 is an article entitled "Build this midi interface for your pc". It describes
 design, parts, and construction, as well as provides a source for the entire
 kit. There are about three levels that you can purchase, such as printed
 circuit board only, printed circuit board and all parts, an additional midi
 port option, as well as all the above plus Voyetra SPJr sequencer software.
 It's not a very complicated project, mainly uart's, data buffer chips and
 some logic for picking up the pc's interrupt lines.

 Bruce Brown   (brown1@niehs)
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From:         H8710244@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Subject:      Re: LAPC-1 MCB-1
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e is no processor inside. I am B. Sc. in Electronic Engineering.
I am confident of it.

from,
Roland
h8710244@hkucc.hku.hk
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From:         "(Michael Colicos)" <mcolicos@NBA19.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU>
Subject:      LAPC-1 MCB-1
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The LAPC-1 is advertized as a MT32 and a MPU401 on a card.  I bought one
figuring it was cheaper than getting the two units separately.  I didn't
have an immediate use for the MPU401, so when I read in the "manual" that
I would need an extra connector, the MCB-1 to use the MPU401, I didn't buy
one and figured it was an inexpensive adaptor of some sort.  After picking
up an old midi keyboard, I checked the price and it's $150 from Roland!
As you can buy an MPU401 cheaper than that, I was quite dismayed, and sent
the original message out about wiring it yourself.
Since then this is what I've learned.  Of the 5 MIDI pins, 2 and 4 (going
clockwise) carry the serial MIDI data, and 3 connects to the shield.  The
LAPC-1 has a DB-15 joystick style connector.  An hour of experimentation
found the following

      2 - X
            X
          X
            X
          X
            X
          X
            X
          X
            X
          X
            X - 4
          X
            X
          X

This results in a fully functional link between my keyboard and the MPU401.
I am sure this is not blessed by Roland, and I have no idea whether or not
it can harm the LAPC-1, but it does work.  And it beats dropping another $150.
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From:         H8710244@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Subject:      Re: LAPC-1 MCB-1
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No, the IC is not for metranome.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:07:34 -0500
From:         CASSIDYB@WABASH.BITNET
Subject:      New Music Info
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Hi!!  This isn't quite related, but does anyone tut there know the address of
the New Music Forum??  The information on my vax server is incorrect and I
can't seem to locate the listserv.

Thanks!!!!
Brendon Cassidy
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From: mklein@S850.MWC.EDU (Mara E Klein)
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Subject: finding a keyboard
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:58:15 GMT
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hi!  i'm looking for a particular kind of keyboard.  can someone give me
ideas for a good one that has these characteristics, or at least, most
of them?
1--pitch-bender
2--ability to record outside sounds and incorporate them at any picth
3--pedals
4--drum pad (or i can get one separately)
5--full-sized, weighted keys
6--realistic instrument sounds (lots of sounds)

well that's it, i think.  oh.  and does anyone know of a good computer
program that notates what is played on a keyboard?
please send replies to mklein@s850.mwc.edu
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You should really have an opto-isolator on the circuit somewhere:
                 +--------+
    ----->-------+-+    +-+----->---
       300 mA(?) ! ! -> ! !
    ------<------+-+    +-+-----<---
                 +--------+
                opto-isolator

The o-i serves both to prevent the whole midi rig from becoming a huge aerial
to pick up all the electical noise in the joint, and to electically isolate the
various instruments from eachother, reducing the incidence of "fried musician
syndrome". Probably neither really counts in your case, but it's worth knowing.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:28:15 GMT-0800
From:         Conrad_Geiger <Conrad_Geiger@NEXT.COM>
Subject:      DIVIDED is presently accepting submissions
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I thought that some of you might be interested in this
announcement...

conrad
International NeXT User Groups

_________________________________
D I V I D E D

P.O.Box 8302
chicago, IL 60680
(312) 489-3951
mabed@robbie.acns.nwu.edu


Re: Please post this letter or share it with individuals who might be
interested.


Greetings:

DIVIDED is presently accepting submissions for a series of several
compilations to be released beginning in the spring and summer of
next year.  Any composer working in the electronic / electroacousitic
/ Computer music fields are welcome to submit compositions for
consideration.  DIVIDED was founded a year ago to pursue lesser known
composers worldwide and give greater exposure to this genre of music.
Recently we released "Scend" by Jim O'Rourke and are expecting the
release of new works by Jean-Francois Denis early in 1993.

PRESENCE is DIVIDEDs ongoing compilation project. Each compact disc
released will contain several composers. All compositions submitted
should be on DAT and may not be longer than fifteen minutes each. The
deadline to submit entries for the initial CD is January 31st 1993. A
properly self-addressed stamped envelope should be included to
retrieve one's master tape.


We believe the copyrights should remain with the composers. The
production rights shall be given to DIVIDED while the CD is in print
and a contract will be drawn allowing composers fifteen percent of
the wholesale price of each CD.



By assembling these compilations we wish to bring to listeners new
works by international composers which are artistically innovative
and dynamic as well as emotionally engaging. DIVIDED wishes to
encourage all composers working in these fields to submit
compositions knowing that their work will be seriously considered.

Please direct all correspodence to the above address.


Mohammad Abed                           Ken Hoenigman
P.O.Box 8302
chicago, IL 60680
(312) 489-3951
mabed@robbie.acns.nwu.edu
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From:         "(Al Vigland)" <vigland@ASIA1.MDC.COM>
Subject:      Patch Editor
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Does anyone out there know of a patch editor for an SGX-2000 that
runs on an IBM PC?  If so, what sound cards is it compatible with?

Thanks!                        Al Vigland -> vigland@asia1.mdc.com
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Subject:      RE: Where do I start?
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Hi whoever you are. This is the kind of thing that really belongs in a FAQ,
but I just checked the netjam-computer-music-faq on comp.music and it really
contains very little info on the internals of MIDI.

System Exclusive information is information that only makes sense to one
particular brand or model of synth or whatever. For example my venerable
MIDI Switch Box (with a Z80 inside) accepts SysEx commands like "route all
MIDI input from port 1 to the Filter; tell the Filter to add 4 to the MIDI
Channel number; and route the filter output to MIDI port 2". Someone was
asking recently about SysEx data for the Alesis Quadraverb; they want to be
able to send MIDI messages to specify the type and duration of reverb and stuff
like that. Sound samples can be downloaded into a sampling synth using SysEx
messages.

Less commonly, SysEx info can flow the other way: I can ask my MIDI switchbox
"just how are you set up at the moment?".

SysEx info is sent as a MIDI message (maybe a rather long one) bracketed by
two special codes, which I have forgotten (F0 and F7???) - hopefully you won't
need to go down to that level of detail, as I'll explain later. Normally any-
thing that can be done using the instrument's front panel can be done by sending
SysEx messages - sometimes more. The great thing about SysEx is that the
commands are sent from your sequencer:
	- they can be programmed into the piece, allowing you to tell the
reverb unit to use a shorter decay for that bit with all the fast runs in it,
or automatically switch master keyboards at the point where you cartwheel
across the stage and start playing with your feet on an upside-down synth.
(But beware of downloading big Sysexes online, you could have timing problems).
	- if your sequencer just happens to be a computer then you can use
special software - called a SysEx Editor, wdya beleive - to translate your
wishes into whatever hexadecimal gibberish the instrument understands.
Looking in the PD catalogue for my Atari ST I see SysEx editors available for
just about every MIDI instrument that was ever made (except my MIDI switchbox),
so whatever synth you own there should be one just for you. Presumably the
situation is similar for Macs, maybe even PC-contemptibles too. This can be a
lot more fun than pushing little buttons and peering at an LCD display the size
of a postage stamp.

Hope this info is if some use.

	Best wishes,


	Chris Gray
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>
> SUB RMUSIC-L Chad Mawson
>

No. Please read what the author said.

> To join us, send this command: SUB RMUSIC-L Your Name
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Not EMUSIC-L, and not LISTSERV@AUVM. Thanks.

 --- Joe M.
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From:         "(Michael Colicos)" <mcolicos@NBA19.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAPC-1 MCB-1
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Well, since my keyboard sits 4 feet from my computI guess thats why I have
no problems.  I have no plans to go on the road with this equipment, so I'll
stick to my cheap setup.
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Date: 9 Nov 92 15:54:00 GMT
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Subject:      GUITARS

> Date:         Mon, 2 Nov 1992 20:32:00 EST
> From: "TODD T. DEPOLE" <DEPO4807%SNYPLAVA.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
> Subject:      GUITARS
> To: Multiple recipients of list EMUSIC-L
> <EMUSIC-L%AUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
> Date sent:  2-NOV-1992 20:26:15
>
> 	I am a novice guitar player and would like to know if anyone could
> tell me where I could find an instructional book made for left handed
> players on power chords. If one does not exist, please let me know of
> one of the better right handed books.
>                            Thanks,
>                               Todd
Hi Todd,

	Power chords for lefties, eh?  I've been playing guitar since
the fourth grade.  I've seen lefties play (1) right handed guitars like
righties, (2) r.h. guitars like lefties without changing the strings
around, (3) r.h. guitars like lefties with changing the strings around
(to keep the low E on top), and (4) specially built left handed guitars.
(Which do you do?)  However, I've NEVER seen a book geared towards the
left handed player.  Nor have I ever seen a book that mentioned power
chords, although there are a lot of guitar books around I haven't seen.
I've always thought of power chords as barred chords with a attitude.
In music theory, there is no such name.

Bill
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From:         "(FRANK FARMER)" <farmer@STRESS.GEO.VIMS.EDU>
Subject:      internet access to modfmt.zip?
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>From:         NLOWREY%DREW.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
>Subject:      Re: About MOD files
>Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.bitnet
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>Status: RO
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>There is a file on the Compuserve MidiForum called "MODFMT.ZIP" which
>contains MOD file formatting information. This forum contains
>many files devoted to MOD player/editors, songs, and technical
>information.
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Q: Is this information accessable via internet or is there a FTP site
where this information can be obtained?
      I have already done the "archie" search with no success, any
 help would be appreaciated.


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