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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: Niner fans, isn't that CAPS-LOCK tempting?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:18:32 GMT

In article <douthit.724097580@scofflaw> douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>
>
>>All we need now is one of these guys actually posting an all-caps-lock
>>woof.      Go for it niner fans!!
>
>What we really need is a good Sports Illustrated cover story.
>
>			-Ron

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 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: roush@stortek.com (Jeff Roush)
Subject: Re: THIS IS WHERE I SAY "TOLD YA SO!"
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:10:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.154026.2818@cnsvax.uwec.edu> bakerje@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>Well, well, well...
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>	C) Green Bay is very solid... they played poorly against a good
>	   team on Sunday and still won. They have won 5 in a row (first
>	   time since 1966), which makes them the hottest team in the NFL!

Hmmm... Big claim considering that San Diego has lost only 1 game in a
span of twice as many games, and is likely to become the only team EVER
to start 0-4 and make the playoffs (let alone possibly win their
division).

>
>						|\/|
>						|  |r. James Baker
>
>						Packer fan at large...
>

Jeff (not a Charger fan, just giving credit where it's due) Roush
Jeff_Roush@stortek.com
my opinions are my own...
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From: hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: Re: 49ers have the 'Ladies of Charity'
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:18:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.000422.10773@oz.plymouth.edu>, k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu (Muldog) writes:
> In article <BzFFM5.HEn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mab50312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark A. Blickhan) writes:
> >Browsing through this week's NFL statistics on clarinews, I noticed
> >that the Niners achieved a feat last achieved by the '82 Chargers.
> >
> >Off Passing yards:  1st
> >Def Passing yards:  28th
> >
> >
> 
> 	Yeah, considering that MOST teams cannot run against the
>   9'ers, what else are they gonna do but pass? 
> 

Another thing to consider is that winning teams often face opponents
who abandon the rushing game in favor of the passing game to try to 
catch up.  Given that the 9ers are near the top of the league in
total points scored, I suspect that many teams have had to start
throwing the ball early in the game which can skew the stats.
However, with the departure of Haley and the fresh faces in
the secondary (Dana Hall), it doesn't surprise me.

    Steve H.
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HOW BOUT EM!!
Keywords: nowworshipmoranow
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:55:38 GMT
Organization: .

Zimmers writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.230639.11568@nntpserver.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>
>>BTW, I lightly claimed after the usual 'cha-choke' in Candlestick that
>>if the Niners were playing the best ball right now, the Saints were a
>>close second.  Seems to be holding true.  The Saints O is vastly
>>improving  -- note FIVE OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWNS in Anaheim Sunday, 3
>>rushing, 2 passing.  Quit listening to what the sports media is saying,
>>"Saints.....great DEE....lousy O."  In fact, not even the media is
>>saying it these days.  The only problem heading into the playoffs is
>>psychological, IMHO.  If the Saints win, sloppy or not, in the Wildcard
>>at the Dome, it could be KATY BAR THE DOOR FOR THEM NINERS!!  
>
>I hate to bring up the notion of level of competition, but somehow
>getting worked up over the Aints' offensive performance against
>the turnover-prone Lambs is akin to pointing to the Niners' snuffing
>of the Fins in the Mud Bowl last week.

Zimmers, why you hasten to counter any argument of the Saints
recent success is beyond me, but then again, I stopped trying to figure 
you Whiners out about 2000 articles ago.

The Saints are 8th in scoring right now, averaging 26 over their last 8
games.  The rushing game can definitely improve, but no one (save you) 
can say that the Saints passing offense hasn't VASTLY improved over
the course of the year.  Just imagine if our receivers could catch
consistently.

>JJ -
>
>Both teams are weak in areas.  They will continue to be for the remainder
>of the season.  

FOR THE LAST TIME, I didn't say that the Saints OR Niners were
RoboTeams, I said they're playing the best ball right now.  Hello?

>The Aints will go as far as their defense can overcome
>the ineptness of their QB.  I don't think that translates to the Big
>Dance for the Big Easy.

Excuse me?  Did you even watch the Saints game in Candlestick?  Hebert
played flawlessly.  HE didn't lose the game, the Niners didn't steal the
game, it was the Saints defense (defensive play-calling) that lost the game.
We didn't deserve to win, regardless of whether we played the best ball
for the first 50 minutes or not(a la Dallas@Skins).  Hebert is currently 
7th in QB rating in the NFL.  The QB rating is by no means the only
measure, but it does correlate.  For example, your beloved Young is
ranked 1st in rating, and IS arguably the best at the position this
year.  Wake up Zimmers, change happens.

>But maybe the Aints will make some progress and maybe win a playoff game.

Oh brother......how generous you are.
(Please Lord, Candlestick ONE MORE TIME.....)

>-- 
>Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984

--J.J.
(jim kelly makes great grape kool-aid)
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From: cnn3515@usl.edu (Nguyen Cam N)
Subject: Re: What did happen in Anaheim ???
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:43:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.135111.8066@cs.tu-berlin.de> adeptus@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Pascal Joyeux) writes:
>  Please, please, can anyone tell me what the hell happened with the Rams last
>sunday. The game wasn't on the air in my region so I just had to watch the
>scores (6:0, 13:0, 20:0, 23:0, 30:0, ... 37:14). How could this happen after 
>loosing by only 3 points (13-10) in New Orleans earlier this season ?
>  I need informations !!!

 - Saints' punishin' offense
 - Saints' solid-defense 
 - Rams' turnover ratios. 

>          Pascal

Bills, you're next for an annihilation!!!! :-)

Geaux Saints..
Dome-Patrol
From: jmelcher@polisci.umn.edu (James Melcher)
Subject: Re: Vikes cannot hope for a wild card.
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:46:35 GMT

In article <Bz9qB6.Eno@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The 
Purple Bleeder ) writes:

>For the Vikes, this season, the only way to the playoffs
>is the Divisional Championship. If the Vikes lose to
>to the Pack, they cannot go to the playoffs. The Vikes
>will lose the tie-breaker to both the Skins and the
>Eagles as these two teams have beaten the Vikes in the
>regular season.
The Star Tribune today discussed an unlikely way in which the Vikings could 
be a wild card.  It would involve a tie for the Vikings at some point. For 
example, if:
Minnesota ties Pittsburgh;
Green Bay beats Minnesota, and
Either Philadelphia or Washington loses its last two games. 
This gives the Packers the Central Division title (hurray!), and puts the 
Vikings (9-6-1) ahead of the Eagles or Redskins (9-7).   
This would also mean that the Vikings would be paying a visit to 
Lambeau Field in the first week of the playoffs...Not too terribly 
likely, but theoretically possible.

Just thought you'd like to know...
Jim Melcher
Badger-in-exile,
University of Minnesota
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Saints/Bills This Sunday
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:56:25 GMT

As a 49er fan I'm surprised that there is little traffic on 
the net about the Saints/Bills game.  Should be a great
game.

Who will win this game.  I am partial to NO because I think
they are playing great now.  Besides, they are at home and
it is real tough to play in their dome.

The game is televised in the Bay Area.  I'm going to sit back
and enjoy these two team whacking on each other.  Also, the
Eagles/Redskins are on at the same time.  Should be a great
Sunday of football.
From: Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
Subject: Re: 10 reasons why the Raiders suck
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:59:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.181752.2826@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mjmcgee@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Mark
McGee) writes:
>Having been a Raider fan for 27 years I have come to the conclusion
>that the Raiders suck big time and no longer warrant my support. I
>consider myself to be a consummate sport fan and so I do not relinquish
>my support lightly ( I'm still a Maple Leaf fan).
>
>The Monday night game against the Dolphins was the worst exhibition
>of football I have ever seen. The disgrace is just too much to bear.
>
>Here are my top 10 list of things the Raiders have to do in order to
>get their team to resemble a sporting franchise.
>
>1.  Move back to Oakland
>2.  Get a new owner
>3.  Get a new head caoch
>4.  Get an intelligent/experienced offensive co-ordinator
>5.  Develop an actual offensive game plan
>6.  Stop employing people with drug problems
>7.  Join the scouting combine
>8.  Stop trading draft picks
>9.  Trade Marcus Allen and let him resume his career
>10. Stop allowing RAP DUDES to use the team emblem
>
>If someone out there can give me any good reason to be a
>Raider fan ( besides Raiderettes ) I 'd like to hear it.
>Help me... I'm considering becoming a Dallas Cowboy Fan!!!!!
>
>
>
let me add to your list:

1)	Play Nick Bell - sit Eric
2)	Stop trading/drafting fast wide recievers when there is No QB to get them
		the ball  (And get a 20th century offense while your at it)
3)	Don't waste a top pick to get the Missle, just so the rocket will come too
		(see #2)
4)	Understand that size does count, especially on D

Bill

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From: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Why do the 49ers get to play by different rules???!!!
Reply-To: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 01:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.185447.25591@unislc.uucp>, jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske) writes:
>marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall) writes:
>
>>OK, you have a right to be pissed about those calls, but no way did the
>>Vikings deserve to win that game. What did they do that was impressive?
>>OK, they had seven sacks against a very good (but short-handed) 49ers' OL.
>>And the defense made two big plays to account for 14 points. Other than that,
>>a very poorly played game by the Vikes. Only ten first downs and only 185
>>yards in offense. And even though they sacked Young seven times, Young
>>still completed 20 of 26. Face it, the better team won this game, 
>>deservedly so.
>
>This is the kind of arrogant prattle that gives the fans of a team a bad
>name.  The omnipotent 49ers only allowed seven sacks because the offensive
>line was short-handed?

You're putting words in my mouth. I did *NOT* say the sacks were a *RESULT*
of the 49ers being short-handed; the "(but short-handed)" is what's known as
a parenthetical comment. Read the sentence *WITHOUT* the parenthetical
comment and you will see that I was complimenting the Vikings defensive
front; they were awesome. I was merely trying to point out that the bright
spots for the Vikes in that game were very few and far between, and that
whining about bad calls by the officials was a pretty classless thing to do.

As for arrogance, look at it this way : which of those two teams looked like
they belonged in a Super Bowl game?

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Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:58:59 GMT

lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:

>But whining is not the only way to make your team a winner. At least Gibbs
>doesn't have to resort to such low-end method.

What the hell are you defending Gibbs for?  Nobody has accused him of being
anything other than a model citizen and a terrific coach.

As for whiners, Johnson certainly is one, although I don't think he's
demonstrably worse than the average NFL coach.  He just gets a lot of airplay
because he's with the Cowboys.  In this case, the airplay is probably enhanced
due to the uncertainty that even the league has displayed about the call's
correctness.  In every case that I can remember where the league has been
uncertain or has declared a crucial call incorrect, there has been a severely
whining coach in the background.  What's the big deal?



						Al
						alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
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From: watterson@stsci.edu (Mike Watterson)
Subject: Re: BEST team wins Re: Dallas vs Skins
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:36:35 GMT

In article <matjmm.724353059@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (J. Morgan Morris) writes:
> Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu> writes:
> 
>>John, John, John;
>>	I think you may have been caught in a little contradiction.  So the
>>scoreboard counts this week?  Last week the skins were the better team,
>>although the records somehow didn't record that.  If I read correctly,
>>the scoreboards have had DALLAS as the winner 11 times, how many for the
>>Skins?  Better team, John? hmmmmm...  (: (:
> 
>>I AM TAKING THIS LOSS WELL, GODDAMMIT!! (where are the rest of my fellow
>>cowboy fans, I need some help)   ):
> 
>>FRANK
> 
> I too am taking this loss well, apart from nearly tearing apart my apartment
> yesterday!
> 
> Sigh. I was dreaming of 14-2. Guess now I'll have to dream of 13-3. Still
> not too shabby, eh?
> 
> To John Gloria and all other obnoxious Redskins woofers: the Cowboys were 1-15
> in 1989. Heh heh heh. Aren't you still ashamed of that lone Cowboy victory? And
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> *no way* the Redskins are as good as the Cowboys this year.
> 
> 
  No, not at all!
> -- 
> 
> John Morgan Morris
> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Georgia State University
> University Plaza
> Atlanta, GA. 30303-3083
> 
> Internet: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu
> Telephone: (404) 651-2253
> FAX: (404) 651-2246
> 
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Gannon's stupidity costs the Vikes.(NEW QB????)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:02:01 CST

In article <1ggv40INNaiv@uwm.edu> caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter) writes:
>
>	You know, I have been thinking about this lately, and with all the
>	free agents avail. after the end of the season, who would you like to
>	see the Vikings pick up to QB? I was thinking of possible QB's
>	that may be avail. after this season.
>
>	V. Testeverde	- May be in his last season with Tampa

That is to their advantage.

>	D. Majkowski	- Probaly wont wanna be a backup to Favre.

Good riddance, Don.  The question is whether anybody will want him as a
starter.  I doubt it.

>	B. Kosar	- Cleveland fans seem unhappy with him

You must have bad info here.  Cleveland fans are a little dissatisfied, but
mainly because he's been hurt so much.  Kosar has a long-term contract, and
a love affair with Cleveland (and/or Art Modell).  This will never happen;
he's in Cleveland until the bitter end.

Cleveland is not know for keeping decent backups around (read: cheap).
Look at the move against the Vikings where Tomscack was benched for
Philcox.  I bet you that Mike is available at the end of the year.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: BEST team wins Re: Dallas vs Skins
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:06:44 GMT

In article <1ggm97INNh8j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci) writes:
>
>Being an impartial observer, I have to say Dallas is the better

impartial but biased!

>team, but has not impressed me as much as they should have after
>last year's preformances.  Conversely, I see Washington as a mediocre

Dallas is not and was not the better team MR. Impartial.

>team with a pathetic QB who get lucky a lot, and have dissappointed 
>
you call Rypien pathetic, yet Aikman and Crew are a tad more
pathetic. You ought to have Aikman in the post game interview,
he certainly looked pathetic.

>many people this year after the quality of last year's team.  I think
>that this race is over, and now it comes down to the Cowboys and the
>49ers.  I see the 49ers with the edge in experience, and the Cowboys
>having more raw talent.  If both play to their potential, I would
>say the Cowboys take it to the Super Bowl and blow away Buffalo...
>but I wouldn't put money on them to beat San Fran in the playoffs.
>
You must be wearing Dallas Cowboy "Impartial Glasses". There is
NO way the Cowboys can ever beat the Niners if both teams played
their best. The Niners best is tops in the NFL.  Aikman ain't no 
come from behind QB!

-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Thoughts on Browns vs. Oilers
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:12:02 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics






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GO BROWNS!!!!


                  
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From: krokahr@convex.com (Kevin Rokahr)
Subject: W & W Status
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:47:13 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


What's the word on Workman and Watters????   Will they play this week???  I
am tired of getting my but whooped because of injurys.  Help this poor ffl
player out and please post the status of Workman and Watters.

Thanks.


GO K-BOYS and 9'ers

-- 
Kevin Rokahr                
Convex Computer Corporation, Richardson, Texas           
UUCP: krokahr@convex.com   
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:50:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
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Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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