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From: amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Keeping Your Watercooled VW cool.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:37:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:

> The idea behind this mod, is that it gets your car to warm up, as normal,
> then operating temp, THEN lets it get no higher than that. . . .

I don't understand how your FAN knows how to cool exactly enough
so your car doesn't get above some "normal" temperature.

>                                                         Before the mod,
> in the summer, my car would run up to 220Deg (just above the LED), now with
> the mod in the winter, it gets to 190 (180 Deg thermostat). Warm-up time is
> about the same....

Do you mean that the fan thermoswitch lets your coolant heat up
to 220Deg, but if you keep the fan on continuously it will
maintain a temperature that is exactly 10 degrees hotter than
thermostat?

I'm lost, but fortunately my life is much simpler.  When my car
is hot the fan comes on.  When it is normal (or cool) the fan is
off.  The water temp gauge in my instrument pod is a meaningless
guess-o-matic with a few uncalibrated bars of red on the
righthand side.  A separate VDO water temp gauge is connected to
a sender mounted on top of the thermostat housing.  I tested the
gauge in boiling water so I think it's accurate enough for my
purposes.  With my 180deg thermostat and large oil cooler, the
only time I EVER overheated was when I forgot to re-connect the
electrical connector to the fan.

(hey... can we talk about electric engine pre-lubers now??)

Alex
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: dysart@bcars432.UUCP (Keith Dysart)
Subject: Re: Urgent! Engine rpm goes up to 5000! HELP!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:59:17 GMT

Had a similar (only 3000 rpm) problem with an 86 Golf after
leaving it parked for 3 weeks in the winter.

Throttle cable moved smoothly though. Turned out to be a 
stiff secondary butterfly. The spring would no longer completely
close it. Doesn't have to be open much to idle at 3000.
Of course it would only stick after accelerating hard enough to
open it. Liberal use of WD-40 and lots of working it by hand
eventually cured it.

Keith
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: neves@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (NEVES RICHARD K)
Subject: Re: Urgent! Engine rpm goes up to 5000! HELP!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:17:27 GMT

In article <1e6cb5INNp33@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>his should be different than yours, as his hasn't a computer control
>unit..but this isn't to dispute anything else here!
>
>DREW

oooops.  What VWs do have computers in them?   

I heard Chrysler has this "doo-dad" that a consumer can buy.  The
"doo-dad" is for those situations where the owner has difficulty
reproducing a problem for the mechanic.  What you do is drive around
with the "doo-dad" and push a button when the problem occurs.  The
"doo-dad" then records everything that was happening in a window of
time surrounding the button press.  Presumably this provides enough
info for the mechanic to fix the problem.

This sounds neat, do any of you think other manufacturers (including
VW) will have something like this?

Rich
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From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (REAL LIFE?!?!  HA!!)
Subject: Re: Restricted top speed (Re: 93 Jetta GLX 6 cylinder-)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:26:09 GMT

ereddy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Edward Reddy  MI) writes:

>Well, in CARandDRIVER, the top speeds of the 318 is 119mph.
>325i - 128mph.
>525i - 128mph.
>535i - 148mph.
>735i - 140mph.
>750i - 158mph.
>850i - 156mph.
>M5   - 156mph.
> 
>Does a car that can go 156mph have a govener? Think about that one...

Yes, it does!  A stock V-12 BMW without governor will redline in top gear,
translating (if I remember right) to speeds in the neighborhood of 170mph.  As
I posted earlier, the 155mph governors on the v12 cars and the M5 are for tax
reasons, but yes, they are there.  At least, that's what Road&Track, Car &
Driver, Motor Trend, BMW Car Club's Roundel, and my neighborhood BMW dealer
claim.  But this is after all the VW channel, and though both BMW's and VW's
are wonderful German works of art, I suspect some of the VW fans are getting
tired of BMW specs.....
> 
>I don't know, but when I was in germany, even doing 125mph was plenty
>speed. 

Well yes, 125 is fast, but there are plenty of drivers who feel comfortable 
driving faster than that.  Hell, I occasionally drive faster than that in 
Illinois (But you didn't hear that from me).  What is necessary is not an is-
sue.  If necessity were the only issue in car construction, we wouldn't have
cars that could accelerate to 60 in under 6 seconds (under 20 for that matter),
cars with top speeds above 50, etc., etc.  The purpose of the automobile is
to serve the driver as best it can, not to protect the driver from himself.
If I have the cash to buy a car that can go 170mph, and I can find some place
where I can safely (and legally if possible) drive at 170mph, you better
believe I will.
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From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: 93 Jetta GLX 6 cylinder-
Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:48:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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In a previous article, odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell) says:

>Anybody out there hear/know any specifics about the 93 Jetta GLX?
>
>I hear it is due out maybe next April-6 cyl engine which is a
>barn burner-4 wheel discs-4 wheel ABS, traction control, moonroof,
>loaded with everything-leather etc.--will only cost around 18K.

no traction control, that i'v heard of..and i do not k now about any
of the rest for sure.
>
>Haven't heard any specs-0-60, skidpad, slalom, top speed, braking
>60-0 and 80-0, and stuff like that.
>
>This, if true, will probably be the best "sports sedan" for the money,
>and will beat the pants off of the more expensive Max SE, Camry SE,
>Taurus SHO, all costing one helluva lot more.--

hmm..i do not think it'll be in the same category as far as performance..
but i could be wrong..we shall see...(I hope so...:-)


>We'll see--

indeed!
>
>Bern O'Dell---
>

DREW
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From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:05:55 GMT
Subject: Re: 16V golf gti mk3 gets bashed by CAR
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw

In rec.autos.vw, eliot@engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:


|i received the december issue of CAR yesterday and on the cover in big font:
|"golf loses its balls".  yow!!  it was compared to a citroen ZX and a honda
|civic VTi (not available here).  the civic won the comparison because it was
|the most fun car, even if the gti had better chassis.  i will post more
|details later today.

I hear of the Civic Vx sold in US.  Here the VTi is sold.  Are the 2 the same
car with different labelling?  You know, like Nissan Sunny/Sentra? 

|
[gti descrip deleted]
|
|eliot
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From: ereddy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Edward Reddy  MI)
Subject: Comments on Jetta's
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:06:24 GMT

Well, for all those chaps commenting on VW's reliabliity, I have to see
nothing of it yet. From replacing the transmission seal, to door locks,
I have racked up $3500, (in repairs) and I don't drive my car hard. 
 
But ask me if I would ever buy a VW again? You bet. Not a Jetta thoughm
but a Golf GTI, or a Passat, or even a Corrado (when I can afford it).
IT seems that having a 'first year' A2 model, there are always the bugs
to be worked out of the design. I had the unfortunate occurance of
buying a poorly cared for used Jetta. The result? Lotsa bucks to bring
her back up to her proper condition. But, one thing that a VW needs, is
constant use. 
 
What I can't get over, is her body. Not a spot of rust or heavy
corrosion on the body whatsoever. And my car is 7 years old, + a paint
job.
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From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Purchasing used VW
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:43:19 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology


One correction that i would like to make to the "GOOD" list is:

1990 1/2 - present Jetta GLI's have 134 hp (2.0 16v).

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From: msirota@ee.rochester.edu (Mark Sirota)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Shoulder belts for rear seats in Golf,GTI?
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:10:10 GMT
Reply-To: Mark Sirota <msirota@socrates.ee.rochester.edu>
Organization: University of Rochester Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <mbernar-181192202706@macnet2_03.erenj.com> mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo) writes:
> As the subject says, can the GTI (1985) be retrofitted with
> shoulder belts for the rear seats.  Is this available from
> the dealer or other source?

Maybe.  US-made A2 cars (including yours, I think) from '85 to '87 have
almost all of the necessary mounting points.  They've got the upper shoulder
anchor, and the slots are there to be cut out from the side decks.  However,
there is no place to actually mount the retractor.  You could fabricate a
piece, which I have considered.  Most likely, though, you won't be able to
find a shop to do it because of possible liability problems.

You'll also need the inner C-pillar trim from an '88 or later, and the '88+
side decks are also slightly different (but I think the early ones will
work).  The "side decks" I'm referring to are the pieces that the rear
speakers mount in, through which the belt must pass.

The early German-made cars that do not have rear shoulder belts are already
equipped with everything you need, I believe, but I'm not 100% sure of that.
-- 
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University of Rochester, Rochester NY
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From: 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Do insurance companies hate VWs?
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:14:58 GMT
Organization: The Corporation.

[Plight of Water-cooled VW owners insurance rates dropped for space only, in no 
way am I trying to lessen it's impact.]


	I do think the insurance companies have it in for us VW owners.  If you
happen to drive a water-cooled VW, get prepared to pay high premiums, if you 
drive an older, air-cooled VW, be prepared again to pay high premiums.

	I guess they think us air-cooled VW owners enjoy a healthy living off
of our vehicle's miserly ways at the gas station.  Even with gas at a dollar,
any fool with a reasonably decent calculator can figure that we are just barely
getting by.

	TRUE STORY:

	I had been a State Farm insurance customer for a year on my 74 VW
superbeetle with auto-stick.  

	Then I had my accident, and it boiled down to his word against mine, 
an important note here is that we both had State Farm insurance, or rather,
his parents had insured all of their cars on State Farm, and they were always
buying new cars.

	What it boiled down to was State Farm believing him, as his parents had
payed them more money.  So, not only are insurance companies biased against new
VWs but they are also biased against old cars in general, as they only get 
public liability and property damage out of them.
-- 

 ______________________________________________________________________________
|Kyle S. Davis
From: ereddy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Edward Reddy  MI)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: info on jetta
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:04:45 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

In article <1e94i6INN2ms@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>once again, due basically to lack of fundage for a BENTLY(ie real) manual,
>i am unsure how to chekc..the only thing i know is that the hyds supposedly
>came in 85 according to the CHILTON's IMPORT manyul...and they do not need
>adjustment...which rips me, cuz i paid for an adjustment, but do not know for 
>sure that i needed it, y'know..anyone in the know out there..help him and me
>both..cuz i've heard that the hyds came in 85, along with the new body/chassis
>style, etc...
>thanx
>DREW
>
One thing that I am ABSOLUTELY sure of, is that the lifters (followers)
are NOT, DEFINATELY NOT adjustable. I asked about adjusting my 85 Jetta
hydrolic (yes they are hydrolic thanks to VW Canada) followers when I
was there getting an oil change. Guess what? They are suppose to be
'self' adjusting. Can't adjust them. Reason being, I was interested in
buying a 88 Fox. Engine had the familiar loud ticking sound (worn
followers). I enquired about the sound. Car dealer said "They can be
adjusted".
I said "Adjust them? Their not adjustable!" Needless to say, in reguards
to my querie about the followers... One lesson has been learned.
 
CHANGE YOUR OIL REGULARLY!
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From: kpjone01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: I now own a VW. How do I drive it?????
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:05:15 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

> 
> I'd love any help you can offer.
> 
> Another happy Fahrvergnugener



most vw's can handle high rpm's, but not to the
point of red line. i have an 83 GTI which has about 134,000 on it and it 
still has good pull all the way up to 5000.
How to keep your front end from plowing in acceleration through turns is
to invest in upper and lower strut bars, you can find them in european car in
the adds in the back. i have abd which cost about $75 for upper and 50 for the 
lower.
The best club to look into is SCCA, and there should be a 1-800 number in euro 
car. call them.


todd

Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALL HERE)
Subject: Older Vdubs (Re: Do insurance companies hate VWs?
Summary: Older Vdub questions 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:35:02 GMT

In article <w0v1sbb@rpi.edu>, squiec@vccnw12.its.rpi.edu (Craig L. Squier)                writes...
>In article <921114.231215.amiller@almaden.ibm.com> amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller) writes:
>>Why is it that VWs are so expensive to insure, relative
>>to similar price, similar performance cars?  Do VW
>>owners have a higher incidence of expensive claims?

>  Its not so much that insurance companies hate VW's, it's the fact that car
> thieves and stereo snaggers love them. VW's are a popular item to steal.

[advice deleted]

>    HOKAY?????
> ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ARE COOL......
> LATER            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     - CRAIG
> 
How about the rest of us that own older Vdubs? Granted, an old Vdub beetle
like mine is not high on a thief's priority list, but still...
What is the most likely way a thief will try to break into a beetle? What
can I do to stop it? (I can break into mine in about 30 seconds, but that's
becuase I know something particular about my car that most thiefs won't)
	There is also something else I've been meaning to ask. How does
a beetle hold up in an accident? I've never been in one in my beetle 
(knock on wood) so I still don't know.
	Thanks in advance.

Garrett@Ingres.com
	
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From: neves@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (NEVES RICHARD K)
Subject: Re: Urgent! Engine rpm goes up to 5000! HELP!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:12:30 GMT

In article <1e65jhINNevu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jchen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jonathan Chen) says:
>
>>
>>Here is what happen:

[stuff deleted]

>>I consult the Haynes manual (sorry, I don't have the good one ).  They say 
>>there will be a throttle switch, but I can't find one.  I really have no
>>idea now.
>>

I've also had a strange idle problem.  We have a 91 passat with 25,000
miles on it.  For the last thousand miles (or so) it will get "stuck"
idling around 500 rpm OR around 2000 rpm.  If I turn the car off and
start it again, it would "reset" and idle normally (until a few blocks
later when it would do the same thing again).

I took the car in several times.  The computer wasn't showing any
faults and they "couldn't reproduce the problem" (I hate that).  The
second time, VW did a recal on the engine monitoring chip.  This
helped the problem, but didn't fix it.  The third time I took the car
in I really yelled at them.  They drove the car around for 50 miles
with the diagnostic screaming codes.  THEN THEY FOUND THE PROBLEM: Bad
throttle switch.  The replaced the throttle switch and that fixed
everything.  It runs great now.  

But I'm disturbed by the fact the computer didn't generate a fault
when the car was consistently idling abnormally low or high.  What
gives?  What is the point in having a computer monitor the engine if
it can't catch stuff like this?

Check those throttle switches! (whatever the hell they are) :)

Rich
From: zirk@celece.ucsd.edu (Karin Zirk)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: WANTED: Tire advice for VW camper
Summary: Sears tires are good
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:45:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: deadmin.2259
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov13.162824.20047@ultra.com>, wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway) writes:
> We have an '85 VW camper that is in dire need of new tires.  We like
> Michelins, but the tire stores say the 185R14 size that we need is
> backordered nationally.  So we are in the market for various forms of
> advice:
> 
> 2) Are Sears tires still made by Michelin, and would they be okay?
> 

I'm not sure who manufactures Sears Tires but they are good.

I have light truck tires from Sears:  Road Handler All Terrian

I have a '71 camper with a bubble top and lots of weight inside.
I have put about 30,000 miles on my tires and they still look
great.  I have driven my van through snow and ice, off road
in Baja California, on the freeway and anything else you can
think of, shallow mud included.  And they have worked wonderfully.

In fact, when ever someone comes to help me work on my van,
which these days has been quite often as I've been involved
in an engine rebuild, they always comment on my tires and
everyone thinks their great.

Just my own personal experience.

Karin
From: mark@sicilia.enet.dec.com (Mark P. Ouellette)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Need Mail Order #
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:44:23 GMT
Reply-To: mark@sicilia.enet.dec.com (Mark P. Ouellette)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Does anybody have a phone number of a reputable
VW mail order company?

Specifically, I need a Bra for a 90 Corrado.

Thanks in advance.

-Mark

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From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Do insurance companies hate VWs?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:54:37 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


	Here's another suggestion for A1 Golf/Rabbit owners:  Remove the
model label from the back and replace it with a "RABBIT DIESEL C" emblem.

Tom.  (Nobody *ever* tries to steal my car!) :-)


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From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: 16V golf gti mk3 gets bashed by CAR
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:06:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.140925.11225@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>Or maybe VWoA will come to their senses and bring in a full model selection.
>In Canada we will have:

[..]

>	Golf VR6	2dr		2.8 gas


i'm migrating to canada!!


eliot