From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Suzanne's "Abortion kills children"
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:48:28 CST


From article by forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
> From article by bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig):

> > I know you think it shouldn't be, but you would earn a great deal of
> > respect in my eyes if you could convincingly present the pro-choice
> > argument as you see it, and explain how, with the same facts at hand,
> > you decided that abortion should not be legal.  Try to give the
> > argument as I might give it, knowing that I am pro-choice and atheist.
> 
> People who argue for abortion on demand have no hope in the betterment of
> the human condition.  Despite millenia of history, they have absolutely
> no concept that people can and do rise above circumstances, that every
> adversity which is overcome produces new and wonderful opportunities and
> accomplishments, not to mention, producing better, more caring, human beings.
> Because in their hopeless state they cannot think of any other way, they
> mistakenly fall into the trap of killing others to solve their problems.

People who argue for criminalization of abortion have no hope in the betterment of
the human condition.  Despite millenia of history, they have absolutely
no concept that people can and do rise above circumstances, that every
adversity which is overcome produces new and wonderful opportunities and
accomplishments, not to mention, producing better, more caring, human beings.
Because in their hopeless state they cannot think of any other way, they
mistakenly fall into the trap of controlling others to solve their problems.

> The practice and acceptance of abortion betrays nothing but a world view
> based entirely, and falsely, on despair, and frankly, pro-lifers don't buy
> despair.   And perhaps that's why many pro-lifers also happen to be
> religious.  Despair is banished by hope in the future, and a faith in God
> tends to focus that hope.    There is a saying that goes, "Every new baby
> is proof that God thinks the world should go on."

The practice and acceptance of abortion prohibition betrays nothing but a world view
based entirely, and falsely, on despair, and frankly, pro-choicers don't buy
despair.   And perhaps that's why many pro-choicers also happen to be
religious.  Despair is banished by hope in the future, and a faith in God
tends to focus that hope.    There is a saying that goes, "Every new baby
is proof that God thinks the world should go on."

> Anyway, abortion opposition = a world view based on hope
>         abortion defense    = a world view based on despair

Anyway, abortion prohibition opposition = a world view based on hope
        abortion prohibition defense    = a world view based on despair

> It's that simple.

It's that simplistic.

> > Right now I don't think you can do this.  I expect you'll either
> > ignore this article or say that my request is pointless.  Prove me
> > wrong, and at least you'll make me interested enough to listen to your
> > opinions, and at best you might win some people over to your side.
> 
> There are people, Brian, who prefer to drown in despair rather than
> live in hope.   Allowing hope into their lives would mean they'd actually
> have to do some work to make the world a better place, and they just can't
> be bothered.

There are people, Suzanne, who prefer to drown in despair rather than
live in hope.   Allowing hope into their lives would mean they'd actually
have to do some work to make the world a better place, and they just can't
be bothered.

> > _/_/_/  Brian Kendig
> Suzanne Forgach
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