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From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: Guide for Teaching English in Japan
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:27:24 GMT

Please limit your advertisements to another forum.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: villano_d@sol.rtsg.mot.com (villano_d)
Subject: Re: INFO REQUEST: Ms. Olympia contest
Keywords: Ms. Olympia
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:48:05 GMT

You just missed it on ESPN Sunday 18 Jan. It also aired back in 
OCt a week after the show. I think I taped it at that time, but 
I,am not sure it saved it. If you dont have any luck gettind a
copy e-mail me directly and I'll see if I can get a copy to  you
if I still have it.
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What in the world are "lunge" and "power clean"
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:51:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1993Jan26.155122.14074
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan26.073445.18431@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
>
..............................
>
>So the chart on the wall of the rec center says to try lunge and
>power clean, but I have no idea of what these are!  Also, can 
>anyone suggest other size-builders for those elusive gleuts?
>
>TIA
>
>-eric 
>-- 
The lunge is like a genuflect (Roman Catholics can relate :-)), but with
weights, usually.... you put one foot forward and come down until your
back knee just touches the floor. You do so many with one leg forward,
then switch legs, and do so many on the other.

The power clean is the first part of the "clean ands jerk" movement.
You pull the bar forcibly, "with everything you got", as high as you
have to in order that you can get your hands/shoulders _under_ it before
it starts to come back down. This is a great power builder, but I cannot
see this as being any easier on your knees than squats.

As far as glute development, your comments suggest that you are trying to
some fat in this area. If that be the case, then you would have more success
by adding/increasing the aerobics in your workout schedule and watching the
fats/sweets in your diet. In my rather biased opinion, cycling has got to
be one of the best quad-shaping/butt-reducing activities known to man!
By all means, give it a try, and _seek out_ those hills :-).

Keith R
Organization: Junior, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:46:44 -0500 
From: "Ryan E. Rasmussen" <rr2y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Leg Press

In a few weeks I'm going to start a new cycle in which I'll be using leg
presses instead of squats.  I was wondering what is considered
proper/safe foot placement, and how different placements might effect
different areas of the quads.

My experience from squats is that they tend to build thickness (on top
of the muscle) as opposed to width (I guess this is usually called
sweep, and is developed by hack squats).  Just wondering how leg presses
influence shape.

Thanks,
Ryan
From: phys2108@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Cindy Crawford Video Controversy
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:31:08 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan24.135151.29468@news.media.mit.edu>, alice@media.mit.edu (alice lei) writes:
>>she has the std anmeic looking model's body the only differnce is she
>>has large breasts tacked onto them.  
She's topless on our flat wall (its off a cleo), and she certainly doesn't 
have large breasts (even by cat walk model status). You're not confusing her
with Elle MacPherson are you?
> 
>>didnt take it serious as an exercise video ( as is advised in Shape Mag ).
> 
> isnt she a seriously competing triathlete
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: amazing deadlift
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:20:50 GMT
Keywords: li'l pudgy

In article <1993Jan25.185141.18912@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
[....]
>of deadlift poundages. After about three weeks of "ramping up", this little
>baby-doll-lookin' young woman was pulling 300 lbs. in the deadlift. I still
>do not know just how strong she was, as 300 lbs. was all of the iron that I
>had at that time. Bear in mind that we are talking about a young woman who
>was basically untrained (as far as weight-training) at this point. I can
>hardly imagine what she might be able to do with a coupla' years worth of
>hard training under her belt.
>
Probably quite a bit.  But it's probably determined not so much by her
strength, but the actual distance she had to lift the weight, and the
fact that at 5'2", she probably didn't have to bend her back nearly as
much as you.  A more accurate measure of her strength would probably
be found in other movements.

GMS
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: blake@osc.edu (Blake Cook)
Subject: Vanadyl Sulfate (PROBLEM?)
Originator: blake@radar.osc.edu
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:22:18 GMT



I recently started having a problem that may or may not be attributed
to Vanadyl Sulfate.  I recently started occassionally breaking out in
what looks and feels like a bad sunburn, mainly over my face,arms,chest,
& back, but also in places all over my body.  This is only occuring after
a good run or during my workouts.  The symptoms last from between 1-2
hours after my workout.  

I went to the health clinic here on campus, the first time this occured,
but they were unable to determine what the was cause.  At first, I 
thought the reaction was caused by a lotion I was recently given to get
rid of another problem, but after the first occurence, I discontinued
its use.  But the problem has continued occuring since, usually during
or soon after a workout.

I don't know if it's the Vanadyl Sulfate causing the reaction or 
something else, but I've become real warry of it.  If it is the VS, I'm
wondering if it may be one of the "other" ingredients the maker, Bricker
Labs, chose to put in it.  These "other" ingredients include 20mg Niacin
& 200 mcg Chromium Picolinate (Nutri 21).  Maybe even the combination
of the 3 ingredients could somehow cause this, I just don't know.  I've
taken the Chromium Picolinate before so doubt if this could be the 
culprit.  

Anyway, I am now wondering if anyone else is experiencing this same
type of discomfort.  I've been getting such good results thus far that
I really don't want to discontinue the VS if I don't have to or can
change something to stop the reactions.

If anybody has any additional info, I would sure be interested in 
hearing about it.

Blake
blake@osc.edu


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: Recommend aerobics workout tape?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:33:24 GMT

Hi Wanda, I recommend all tapes by Charlene Prickett. There are different
tapes to use as you become ready for increased challenges, also a stretching
tape and a free weights tape. Charlene has a wonderful, healthy, and
supportive approach and keeps up on the latest fitness and health info.
She has a great daily TV show here in Canada and stresses a positive self
image and self esteem.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: Weight Training Books
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 23:18:35 GMT

In article <KRISHNA.93Jan20174450@bart.eng.yale.edu> krishna@bart.eng.yale.edu (Krishna Pasupathy) writes:
>Hi! I am looking for a good book on training with weights.
>
>I am a beginner and am looking for a comprehensive book.
>
>Also, any suggestions regarding efficient schedules to maximize gain in bulk
>(training daily as opposed to going alternate days etc.) and comparison of
>free weights with machines with regard to bulking etc. are most welcome.
>
>Thanks in advance for the info! And happy lifting....
>
>----K.P.KRISHNA.
>--
>----K.P.KRISHNA.

I just bought a copy of SECRETS OF ADVANCED BODY BUILDERS put out by
HEALTH FOR LIFE ( the Legendary Abs People).  It is excellent

SFJR
From: franklin@cs.columbia.edu (Matthew Franklin)
Subject: Stairmaster question (average weight)
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: misc.fitness
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:58:59 GMT

Why does the Stairmaster consistently underreport my weight (by about
15 pounds) at the end of a workout?  My only guess is that I don't use
the handrails, and the machine's calculation assumes some leaning.
Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
From: laurie@bnr.co.uk (Laurie Constantin)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Neck exercises
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:28:04 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs197.bnr.co.uk

In article <6137@ceylon.gte.com> ept2@bunny.gte.com (Ed Tucker) writes:
>Hi, folks!
>
>Besides shrugs and head raises, what other exercises would be most 
>beneficial for size gain?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>--Ed


	I used to do head movements using simple hand pressure for the
	resistance. The trouble was it was so successful that none of
	my shirts would do up at the neck after just a few weeks. As I 
	couldn't afford new shirts I just stopped training my neck

	I wish my arms would respond like that!

	Laurie.
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| <laurie@bnr.co.uk>   | Any road that you take will get you there,            |
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From: warren@jellyfish.cps.msu.edu (Gordon Patrick Warren)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Mr. Olympia 1993
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:17:04 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jellyfish.cps.msu.edu
Keywords: Olympia

My parents are moving to Atlanta in February...I know that the Mr. O
is going to be held there this year.  Can anybody tell me when?
Also, how would I go about getting tix?

Thanks for the help.
G-man

Xref: sparky misc.fitness:9912 rec.bicycles.misc:2269 rec.running:4105
From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.running
Subject: Navigation question, behind Stanford
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:38:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA


What's the best way to run the Quarry in that pasture by the Big Dish [on the
other side of Junipero Serra Blvd. from Stanford] if you start from the
intersection of Hillview Ave and Arastradero, and have a shortish lunch hour?

I'm looking at my map and the roads all seem to do just exactly the wrong
thing.

-dk
From: hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Chest without shoulders
Date: 23 Jan 1993 07:43:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

I've been suffering from impingement in my right shoulder, which severely
limits not only some shoulder excercises but lots of chest stuff as well.
Can someone suggest chest work that involves the shoulders as little as
possible?

Thanks,

Steven
From: poulin@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: ESPN, Muscle and me....
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:45:58 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Nntp-Posting-User: poulin


   Finally, I picked up a good VCR and was wondering if I could ask anyone a
favor here?  As I do not have cable and my landlord will not allow it to be
installed, I am wondering if anyone would be willing to tape ESPN's American
Muscle Mag as well as other BB related shows and send them to me on a regular
basis?  I would be willing to pay fully for the tapes, the shipping, plus a few
extra dollars for their time speant in this endevor.


					Thanks for any responses....

						Ian Poulin
						poulin@ccit.arizona.edu
From: ept2@bunny.gte.com (Ed Tucker)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Neck exercises
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:45:30 GMT
Organization: GTEL

Hi, folks!

Besides shrugs and head raises, what other exercises would be most 
beneficial for size gain?

Thanks in advance!

--Ed
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: dave@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Dave Thompson)
Subject: Re: Vanadyle Sulfate: Both Sides
Organization: Communications Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 12:31:36 GMT

In article <18055@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>Well, I have seen Ultimate Nutrition and KAL brand at GNC, but I recommend
>SportPharma USA because I definitely know it's pharmaceutical grade VS.
>							-Adam
>
Speaking of Ultimate Nutrition, what quality is their VS? I have been told
that their VS is also pharmaceutical grade. Anybody out there use their stuff?

Dave.


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gj196476@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 196476)
Subject: Met-Rx
Summary: Does Met-Rx work?
Keywords: Muscle Building
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:41:56 GMT

          Hi, I was just wondering if anyone out there has themselves
used the supplement Met-Rx? I see the advertisements for it from the
likes of Lee Labrada and Jeff Everson.  These guys are known and
respected in the bodybuilding community, and I feel they have a good
reputation.  They seem to feel that antic-catabolics is the wave of
the future.  So I post the question:  Has anyone used this supplement
and what were their results??  Comments and questions?

          Thanks for your time,

                    Chris (gj196476@ccs.carleton.ca)
From: wanday@wandaful.Corp.Sun.COM (Wanda Y. Wong, Corp. Consolidations, x67827)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Recommend aerobics workout tape?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:31:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wanday@wandaful.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wandaful.corp.sun.com


Can any of you recommend a good aerobic workout tape?  There are
so many out there now, it seems that just about everyone is making
a tape.

Thanks, Wanda


--------------------------------------------------------------

Wanda Y. Wong				Sun Microsystems, Inc.
wanda.wong@Corp.Sun.COM			Palo Alto, CA
(415) 336-7827

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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: WANTED: healthy meal ideas under 5 minutes
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:09:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rhill@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Russ Hill) says:

>I would like a few healthy meal ideas that within 5 minutes are ready to
>serve. low cost would be nice too. 
>thanks 

Cottage cheese (pref. 1% milkfat) and fruit.  No cooking necessary.
 
-- 
    Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., CWRU grad student & roboticist wannabee
		      ** Wise men still seek Christ. ** 
  "Perhaps we would have more power if Engineer Scott  |    My boss is a 
      connected your mouth to a generator, Doctor."    |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: wittmann@engr.wisc.edu (art wittmann)
Subject: NordicFlex Gold, Amazing product!
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:26:53 CST
Originator: wittmann@muskie.engr.wisc.edu
Keywords: sham, bull, untruth, flim-flam


I was watching a bit of TV the other day when a saw an ad for
an amazing product.  The NordicFlex Gold is much like the soloflex,
but much more impressive.  As the ad started out, the machine
didn't look all that impressive, but the announcer explained the
way it could transform your body into exactly the one you wanted.

To my amazement, the machine is obviously capable of much more than
I would have expected.  You see they showed a man working out and did
one of those very impressive before and after sequencences.  You know
the kind; where the subject is pictured in the same place and we see a
metamorphic change before our eyes.  Well this is the truly amazing part, 
I expected that our hero would grow and become much more muscular than
he started out to be.  Well, let me tell you!  The NordicFlex Gold is
capable of much MUCH more!

Not only did our hero get some new mass, BUT he also lost significant weight,
lost all the hair on his upper body, got a new hair cut and began excreting 
baby oil from his pours!  Now I don't mind telling you, I was impressed. 
I mean the announcer said the device was better than soloflex, but how
could I have expected this?  No where on the machine did I see any device
that appeared capable of shaving this guy's chest let alone give him a new
hair style.  Very impressive indeed!  On the other hand the baby oil
secretion has he a bit worried.  What might this machine be doing to cause
such biological changes.  I don't think this is likely to be good in the
long run.  Always secreting oil like that, it might be hard just to stay
seated in a chair.

Anyway, now on to my question; does anyone have one of these truly remarkable
devices?  If so, tell us how it works, I mean if it's not a secret or
something like that.  I know some times, with these revolutionary products
they don't want you to tell unless people buy.


Gotta love advertising!

Art
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: Hand Weights When Stepping?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:22:53 GMT

Hi, yes, using weights while doing walking, running, stepping is hard on the
knees. I guess applying some common sense helps...for instance, why do you
want to use the weights while you do your aerobics? If it is because you need
more challenge, then maybe restructuring the workout will be the answer. If
you want to build muscle, maybe doing a weight routine after will be best.
But if you really want to use the hand weights during aerobics, I would be
extra cautious and keep watch for signs of strain and impending injury.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: Hidden Fat In Packaged Foods
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:40:14 GMT

Read that list of ingredients!
I do a slow burn at "sugar free" products that list fructose or honey or corn
syrup as ingredients, at "fat free" products that are filled with nuts, and
at "cholesterol free" products that are filled with fats (my favourite
example is corn oil).
Until the FDA gets tough with misleading claims on food packaging, you have
to be your own watchdog.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: max@megatek.com (Max Elliot)
Subject: Re: StairMaster Technique?
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:53:09 GMT


  My .02 worth is that leaning on the handrails probably will not
  greatly increase the risk of injury, but you just don't get the
  same work out. I've leaned on 'em before, for significant amounts
  of time with no indication of undue stress/fatigue anywhere, but
  I definitely didn't get the big quad pump.

  Cheers!
-Max

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: Cindy Crawford Video Controversy
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:20:26 GMT

In article <19957@mindlink.bc.ca> Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson) writes:
>Cindy Crawford stated in an interview for Shape Magazine that she is so much
>larger than the other models that she feels "like a moose" when she walks
>down the runway. She is hailed for breaking the size barrier in fashion
>modelling...and the woman is 5'10" and 120 lbs.....Scary, huh?
>//


In the documentry THE HUNGER WITHIN, the authors of the film claimed the
average ( arimetic) american female was 5,5 and 155lbs while the average
american model was 5,11 and 105 0r so lbs.  So Cindy is right, she is
a "short fat blob" compared to her peers!

Personally I dont see her making it as any big breakthrough.  To my eyes
she has the std anmeic looking model's body the only differnce is she
has large breasts tacked onto them.  

Not to say she doesnt have her appeal ( though I like all female body types).
  I enjoyed watching her video just to see her bend, grind, and stretch.  I
didnt take it serious as an exercise video ( as is advised in Shape Mag ).

Steve R
From: Janet_Wilson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Wilson)
Subject: Re: Cindy Crawford Video Controversy
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:28:38 GMT

I am an English major who believes in the creative use of the language (and I
am too lazy to put in all those -'s!).

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: A. Satish Pai <Pai-Satish@CS.Yale.Edu>
Subject: Too high? [Re: More on max heart rate]
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven CT 06520, USA
	<1993Jan25.163202.17422@cbnews.cb.att.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:41:14 GMT


I swim 2 or 3 times a week, for 30-40 minutes at a time. Within 5 or 10 minutes
of starting to swim, my heart is usually pounding at 170 to 190 beats per
minute (there is no pain or discomfort). This seems like it's dangerously close
to the "maximum" computed by the (220 - age) formula (I'm 25 years old). And
the "recommended" 80% for exercising is about 155 which I invariably exceed.

Am I doing something wrong? As another poster mentioned here, I don't feel I'm
working out if I go any easier. By the way, my resting pulse rate is about 60.

Is the formula supposed to be applicable to all/most people? 

-Satish

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: 91063357@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Kurt Schafer)
Subject: CYBERGENICS
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:12:45 GMT

Is there anybody here who has tried this product or know of anybody who has done so ?

I've been owrking out for about three years but am a very slow gainer and am looking for something 'safe' to give me that extra burst to get me through the wall I seem to have hit.

Please mail any suggestions to the following address;

91063357@ramssey.cs.laurentian.ca

My name is Kurt, and I will post a summary on all information I recieve.

Thanks.
From: roberts@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Excercising while driving your car??
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:49:09 GMT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney) writes:
>Ride a bike!
>
>Before you know it, we'll have Stairmasters in the elevators.  Sheesh!

My, we're all getting smug about this one, aren't we??

Perhaps the original poster has a job that precludes bike riding as an
option. I can think of any number of jobs (sales or service reps being two
obvious examples) where schlepping around on a bike all day isn't really
an option.

Perhaps a series of isometric exercises is what the original poster is
after. Unless she (he?) spends a lot of time in stop-and-go traffic (and
then, only when stopped), I wouldn't think even that would be such a great
idea whilst driving.

One thing I do have some experience with: my dad has always kept one of
those spring-loaded wrist-grippers in his car (he fell into the "bike not
an option" category for much of his career), and I carry one around in my
briefcase. Helps fight boredom and saves valuable gym time that might
otherwise be devoted to forearm work.

--
 Dr. Donald W. Roberts                                       dwr@llnl.gov
   University of California                                     Physicist
   Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory        Recreational Bodybuilder

 The ideas and opinions expressed here do not represent official policies
 of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory,  the University of California,
                or the United States Department of Energy.