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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
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Subject: Re: Repeated Measures in Regression Analysis
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:15:22 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <SPSSX-L%92111907473921@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> AJK@NIHCU.BITNET writes:
>Cohen & Cohen show how to do a repeated measures anova with regression.
>I don't have the book here, but I think you need a dummy variable for
>eeach subject. Each subject would go in as 2 cases. Another dummy
>would indicate which repeat. Something like this would
>be especially helpful when the IV's where more ore less continuous.
>Cohen & Cohen is a very good book that lays out a lot of ways that
>ANOVA and Regression are related.

I'm familiar with Cohen and Cohen. It's a good book. In the general case
of more than two time points and between subjects factors though, you
have to run more than one regression to replicate the results you'd get
out of an ANOVA procedure. I think the only way you could simply do a
regression and get the same total set of results would be with two time
points and no between subjects factors.

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 Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312) 329-3657
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From: gonzo@LEWIN.PSYCH.WASHINGTON.EDU (richard gonzalez)
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Subject: spss.el??
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:06:45 GMT
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Does there exist an spss mode for emacs?  I tried the archie server
with no luck

rich gonzalez
gonzo@u.washington.edu
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From:         HAINES@NEWSCHOOL.EDU
Subject:      Aggregate By Median...
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I am working with a panel (pooled time-series cross-section) dataset
and am involved in a rather heated discussion concerning the
potential weakness of using a mean value (say, a ten year average of
variable x for company y) as an indicator of central tendency.  In
particular, its sensitivity to outliers.  My question is why SPSS
does not include the median, trimmed mean, or other robust estimators
in the AGGREGATE command.  My feelings are that it would be very
useful.  Secondly, I don't see any easy way to accompolish this
alternative aggregation within SPSS.  My solution, so far, has been to
import the data (ASCII) into Systat (a package I try to avoid),
aggregate by median, then export (ASCII) it back into SPSS.  Not very
elegant to say the least. The other option I'm considering is to use
DBMSCopy to exchange the data.  The data sets are large (50,000 cases
and 150 variables).

Any thoughts or comments are greatly appreciated.
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Troy L. Haines                      Internet: HAINES@NEWSCHOOL.EDU
New School For Social Research      Compuserve: 73617,2135
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Reply-To:     Lary Jones <LJONES@BINGVMB.BITNET>
From:         Lary Jones <LJONES@BINGVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Recoding a variable into its ntiles.

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:40:53 EST Bill Verity said:
>Several people suggested I use the RANK procedure.  Sounds like a SAS answer
>to me.  Where is RANK in SPSS.

RANK was added as a procedure in Release 4 of SPSS.  It is documented on
pages 568-572 of the SPSS Reference Guide.  This is an example of why
all of us should try to include version and platform in our messages :-)

-Lary  --  Release 4.1  IBM MVS/ESA  (Work)
           Release 4    Macintosh    (Personal Consulting)
__________________________________________________________________
Lary Jones...Computing Services...Binghamton Univ...(607) 777-2879
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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
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Subject: Re: Repeated Measures in Regression Analysis
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:43:26 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <01GR9C0AHL9U000YRW@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> SULLINS@NAUVAX.BITNET writes:
>I have a research design with 3 IVs: 2 are subject variables and the third is a
>within-subjects condition variable.  How do I specify these variables, and all
>interactions, in an SPSSX regression statement?

REGRESSION does not handle repeated measures analyses directly. That is,
it can use only one error term per analysis, and there is no way to tell
it that something is a within subjects variable or factor. Generally in
this case the subjects factor is a random effect, which necessitates the
use of different error terms for different effects. MANOVA is set up to
handle this quite conveniently. There is a way to replicate the univariate
results from MANOVA in REGRESSION in a piecewise manner, by transforming
the variables as MANOVA would do, then running a series of regressions.

If you want more specific information, send an e-mail directly to me and
I'll tell you more, or if you think this is of general interest, post
more to the net and I'll respond in kind.

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 Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312) 329-3657
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From:         Ran Chermesh <CHERMESH@BGUMAIL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: user created spss procedures
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              "AJK%NIHCU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Nov 16, 92 1:36 pm

Art,
I don't believe that such a list exists.
Still, it's a WONDERFUL idea.
I second you and suggest:
1. if any of us uses a user procedure of general interest, please announce
it
on this list (SPSSx-L).
2. If you can, put it on an anonymous ftp site. Don't forget to add a
short description file.

>  > Is there a list of user created procedures
for SPSS? > Is there a LISTSERV from which files can be retreived that
> have code?
>
> Art Kendall
> ajk@nihcu
>


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Reply-To:     AJK@NIHCU.BITNET
From:         AJK@NIHCU.BITNET
Subject: Re: Repeated Measures in Regression Analysis
Comments: To: JVH@NIHCU.BITNET, nichols@SPSS.COM, SPSSX-L@UGA.BITNET

Cohen & Cohen show how to do a repeated measures anova with regression.
I don't have the book here, but I think you need a dummy variable for
eeach subject. Each subject would go in as 2 cases. Another dummy
would indicate which repeat. Something like this would
be especially helpful when the IV's where more ore less continuous.
Cohen & Cohen is a very good book that lays out a lot of ways that
ANOVA and Regression are related.
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:26:04 EST
From: Bill Verity <WHV@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Obsolete manuals (was Re: Recoding a variable into its ntiles.)

Thanks for the alert.  Sure enough, we were using old manuals.  Just went
through and purged the old version and put out the new.  RANK is just what
we needed.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:56:53 EST
From: Bill Verity <WHV@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Recoding a variable into its ntiles.

I'd like to recode a variable into it's ntiles.  Let's pick quartiles to be
specific although any ntile is a possibility.  I can't see a way to do it
other than to first run frequencies with the ntiles option and then manually
doing the recoding with If statements.  There's got to be a better way :-)
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Reply-To:     GILBERT KLAJMAN <KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
From:         GILBERT KLAJMAN <KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject: RE: Aggregate By Median...
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Troy Haines inquires about using DBMSCOPY to transfer an SPSS/PC+ file
with 150 variables, N=50,000, to SYSTAT format, and then back to SPSS format.

I just tried it on a Gateway 486/25, using DBMSCOPY Version 2.0.
In both directions the program converted at a rate between 65-68 records
per second.  (My file had 129 variables... all numerics.)

Gil Klajman, Sociology, Montclair State, Upper Montclair, NJ  07043
KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU
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From:         Hessels@SOA.FSW.EUR.NL
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Dear specialists,

We have the following problem. In a causal model we have found
path coefficients as presented below.


ethnic group -- .67 -> Social economic status __________ .03
      |   |                      |                         |
      |   |                      |                         |
      |    \                    -.01                       |
      |     |____________________|__________ .20 _____     |
      |                          |                    |    |
      |                         \|/                  \|/  \|/
     .40 ----------------> intelligence --- .36 ---> arithmatic


We are very pleased that 'ethnic group' largely determines 'social
economic status (SES)' and that ethnic group shows a path coefficient
of .20 with arithmatic.

However, in regression analysis a high correlation, such as between
'ethnic group' and 'SES' is not allowed (multicollinearity). The 95%
confidence intervals for the path coefficients become so huge that no
conclusions can be drawn, e.g. one cannot argue that SES is of no
importance in this model. We do NOT want to drop SES from the model,
since we want to show that an effect for ethnic group remains when
controlling for SES. A possible solution is to create orthogonal factors
for ethnic group and SES. But WHAT is it, that we have left after factor
analysis. We could also first use regression on ethnic group and SES, in
both directions, and work with the common part and the residuals.

A different solution would be to use a causal variant of loglineair
analysis, but here other problems arise as empty cells and how to
transform the interval level to ordinal level (which intervals in which
categories).

Any suggestions on how to deal with this are greatly appreciated!

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From:         Andrea Duda <lb10duda@UCSBUXA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: STN ACADEMIC ACCESS

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> WE ARE CONSIDERING DISCONTINUING THE PRINT VERSION OF CHEMICAL ABSTRACTS AND
> SUBSCRIBING TO STN ACADEMIC ACCESS.
>
> WOULD ANYONE WHO HAS USED THIS SERVICE PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF IT
>

Using the academic discount that STN offers is a great way to provide
inexpensive access to Chemical Abstracts and other databases.  One
disadvantage is that the discount applies only after 5:00 pm, so you'll
need a librarian willing to stay late to run searches.

If you'd like more information, you may want to ask your question on the
chemical information sources list:  CHMINF-L@IUBVM.

     Andrea L. Duda
     Sciences-Engineering Library
     University of California, Santa Barbara
     Internet: aduda@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
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From:         "Cynthia A. Hodgson 412-337-2434" <HODGSON1%A1@ALFIE.BITNET>
Subject:      Thoughts on Document Delivery

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The recent messages regarding document delivery have spurred some thoughts I
decided to share with the list.

I've always worked in corporate special libraries and we have since the
beginning of time emphasized access over collection.  SOME academic librarians
(including some on this list in previous discussions) have lambasted special
libraries for being net borrowers.  So, it is with some amusement that I read
regularly of the trend in many academic libraries to emphasize access over
collection.

However, this brings up the question:  If we all move to access over
collection, who is going to be collecting the materials we all need to access?
Most document delivery suppliers (those who are unaffiliated with publishers
anyway) provide their services by going to public and academic libraries and
copying from their collections.  If libraries only collect the heaviest used
materials and ACCESS the rest, where will the REST be?

I think this could become a critical issue and potentially change the whole
structure of libraries as we know them.  Anyone on the list care to comment?

Cynthia A. Hodgson
Aluminum Company of America
Alcoa Technical Library
Internet: hodgson@alcoa.com
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From:         Donna Gagnier <LIBGAGNIER@minna.iit.edu>
Subject:      Re: Help with Citation

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>A colleague has asked me to seek your help in filling out the
>blanks of a citation.  We need the publisher's name and place for
>the following:
>        Actes du VIe Congres International des Sciences
>        Phonetiques, 1967.
>
>Apparently they are conference proceedings.  We have had NO
>luck with OCLC.
>
>Thank-you in advance.
>
>Catherine A. Lee
>Eastern Kentucky University
>Richmond, KY  40475
>LIBLEE@EKU
     The item you are seeking was not published until 1970.
I located it with a title search ((key words only) on Illinet-
Illinois' wonderful database.  The keyword search generated
several records of other congresses but not the correct year.
From the full record, I took the subject phonetics--congresses
and limited to a range of years.   This gave the record:
   ocm00-105035  It is held by Univ of Ill at chicago and
       call # P215I451967 & by Eastern Ill University.
Donna Gagnier
   Donna Gagnier
Reference/BI Coor.   Illinois Institute of Technology
                       Chicago, Il   libgagnier@minna.iit.edu
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From:         Gary Parsons <PARSONS@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Msc or mls?

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
    Why not?  Some library schools were doing this years ago: my dgree
    is an M.S.L.S..
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From:         larry schwartz <LSCHWART%NDSUVM1.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: Hats
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
i would just like to point out that, in these days of budgetary and staff
cutbacks, it is incumbent upon the remaining library staff, para- and pro-
fessional, to wear as many hats as necessary.

and as long as those hats match the shoes, then no one has any cause for
complaint.  if we look professional, we act professional.

larry schwartz, humanities librarian
north dakota state university
fargo, north dakota
where a hat in this weather is recommended
"where one's opinion is one's own"
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From:         Judith Bendersky <libaa@u.washington.edu>
Subject:      mls vs. m sc.
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Your question is interesting.  Library Science is definitely more of a
science now than it was when I got my M.S. in Library & Information
Science in 1978.  In Medical Librarianship, at least, it is highly
dependent upon one's technical scientific skills (and artistry,
too)manipulating databases, understanding complex resources, etc.  Your
question has to do with convention having to do with British
abbreviations, too.  I think an M.S. alone is adequate as it is in many
other fields, and a personal explanation can supplement.

Judith Bendersky
Alaska Native Medical Center
Anchorage, AK 99516
anjfb@acad2.alaska.edu
or until 12/31/92 libaa@u.washington.edu
(907)257-1283
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From:         Ken Grabach <KGRABACH@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Chaos on shelves?
              18 Nov 1992 12:16:56 EDT from <RJT@gml.lib.uwm.edu>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I like James Tobin's reply to the effect that we cannot abolish subject
classification (not yet).  I do not think that OPACs would ever work
effectively without classification and a good use of subject headings.
As long as we are dealing with printed materials and encourage users to
retrieve their materials a classified shelf arrangement makes more sense
than not having classification.
David Fuller's contention that because of the Library of Congress catalogers,
libraries no longer do their own cataloging, is incorrect.  On OCLC all of
those symbols in the 040 field that are not DLC are other libraries that
have cataloged materials.  My own experience is that while LC-produced
records may not be infallible, many other institutions fall much shorter
of the nirvana of perfection.
To claim the supposed disarray of subject cataloging is responsible for
our chaotic library shelves seems to be the pot calling the kettle black.
We see more materials being published than ever before.  New serial titles,
small presses, newly merged mega-publishers, new titles that connect
previously disparate subjects (another theory on the Kennedy Assassination?
it involves black holes?)  surely contribute to the confusion that
catalogers see. To blame catalogers for a bad job overlooks the problems
they face.  Maybe the subject schedules need work.
I know it is heresy in reference work to praise catalogers, but without
their work ours would not be possible.  If you see difficulties with your
own catalog, your catalogers depend on the reference librarians, their eyes
and ears, to know what is wrong.  Do you talk to each other?  If so, you
are doing well.  If not, you should be.   Most catalogers I know welcome
suggestions to improve the records and the database.  They don't blindly
follow what LC says if something will work better at another institution
Ken Grabach  kgrabach@miamiu.bitnet  kgrabach@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
Documents Dept.  (cataloger of UN titles)
Miami University Libraries
Oxford, OH  45056
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From:         RACHENPUTZER <radavfs@UBE.BITNET>
Subject:      Names

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I remember when, in the "Graduating Class" meeting about a month
before I finished Library School, the Dean of the  "GSLIS" announced
that we would all be receiving a "Master of Librarianship" degree -
there were audible gasps from several corners of the room, quickly
followed by comments like "After two years of this, we deserve
AT LEAST a Master's in Library SCIENCE!"  Hmmm.

I sincerely hope that at least in OUR profession there is a tendency
to look at the quality of a person's work/knowledge rather than the
name on the sheepskin on the wall...

Best
Volker "Merely an M. Lib." Stewart (U. Wash. '90)

Lagsdale Library, U. of Baltimore
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From:         R James Tobin <RJT@gml.lib.uwm.edu>
Subject:      Re: chaos on the shelves

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Clearly there is no such thing as comprehensive subject access but,
the way things are now, merely adequate subject access requires use
of subject headings, keywords (preferably boolean combinations of
phrases) AND browsing in more than one location.  The locations need
to make some sense;  frequently they do not.  Sometimes different
editions of the SAME book end up far apart on the shelves.
Correcting or preventing this sort of thing may require more than
just being careful;  it may even require a major overhaul of the
classification schedules.  In any case, t is too serious a problem to
dismiss on the assumption that any OPAC makes classification
irrelevant.

Jim Tobin
Humanities/Fine Arts Reference Librarian
Golda Meir Library
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
P.O. Box 604
Milwaukee, WI  53201
414-229-4659
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