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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Indiana?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:02:07 CDT

In article <BuJABq.J24@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>
> Nover received some lauds during a Big Ten
>world tour team, but so did Chris Street of Purdue, so I ain't payin' too
>much attention to 'em.

Chris Street plays for Iowa.  Gosh, don't you IU guys know anything?

Street was a pretty good player last year, and had better statistics than
Nover.  He's a scrappy 6'8" skinny guy, who mainly was known for tough
defense, occasional rebounding, and being the Iowa player who hounds the
inbounder in Iowa's famous full-court press.

Just when you think an IU guy has something intelligent to say, he goes out
and talks about things he knows little about.  Typical...
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Carolina Preview Coming Soon
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:41:07 GMT




By the end of next week, I will be posting my comprehensive UNC basketball
preview.  I'm down to polishing the text and getting the last pieces of
necessary data.

As a public service for those, like myself, who can read news but have
a difficult time saving articles off the net, I offer to send you a copy
via email so you can print it out and enjoy it for the entire season.
(You Duke and State fans can do the same and have enough scrap paper for
starting fires for the entire winter.)

To keep me from wasting too much time mailing this to every Carolina fan
in existance, if you can easily get this off the net, don't ask for it by
email.

Those who read news over a slow modem are also advised to let me send you
a copy if you desire one.


No, this isn't going to be in Postscript or anything like that.  With any
luck, that'll happen next year.


I hope that you'll find everything you wanted to know about this season's
Carolina team without getting too bored with all the stuff you didn't want
to know.


In the old days, it'd be a month until the start of practice....




Curtis Hill
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star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org
From: jwag9429@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John Wilbur Althauser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: DePaul loses Nathan to grades
Keywords: fail
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:24:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BuA0oG.7Cr
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doug Mraz ) writes:

>I was wathcing WGN News last night when they announced that DePaul
  ...lines deleted....
>said. He had been going to summer school. Head Coach Joey Meyer said that
>now the players will realize that grades are to be taken seriously. It 

Good, but does the DePaul admininistration take Meyers seriously? 

Last I read that he was asking for a $500,000/year salary during contract
negotiations. This was up-front money, not shoe contracts or other
benefits.  For that DePaul could hire 4 (better) head coaches....

John Althauser
jwag9429@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Re: Jamal Faulkner stripped of scholarship
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 13:46:12 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <21734@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>around - he should have been dumped for being an idiot if nothing else...
>
GARY, GAry, gary...NCAA bball would then be disbanded if that were
the case.  And I won't even mention USENET.
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Morte Livingston
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:05:50 GMT

In article <67677@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>In article <9209041801.AA18617@walt.disney> chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>
>>Randy will be able to play as much as he wants and leave school early to
>>go pro at LSU.  These were two of his goals.  His relatives will be able
>>to see him live at home games.  That's nice.  However, by not picking a
>>school with a coach that instills discipline, defensive skills, and ability
>>to play effectively within a team system, Randy has severly reduced the
>>level his game will be at when he turns pro.
>
>It's interesting that "long ago", players (and high school students in
>general) looked forward to going away to school, rather than staying
>close to home.  It was viewed as part of a growing experience.  Now,
>many people are staying as close to home as possible.  Of course
>widespread TV makes it possible for you to see almost anyone almost
>anywhere, but since that is true, why not play at a school which has a
>chance to win it all and develop you to the fullest?  I guess young 
>people today are just "different".
>

When was "long ago?" Who are these students you're talking about?
I suppose it may be more fashionable to talk publicly about being
devoted to your family today than it was in, say, 1968. I doubt 
there's been much of a change in how far people go away to school,
though. I bet the majority of people have always stayed pretty close 
to home. 

More schools have a shot at national prominance in football and 
basketball, however, so the situation has changed for elite 
athletes; a single star can help bring a school to the top, because the
talent is more evenly distributed. 

Ken B. 
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: UCLA News
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 00:14:29 GMT

In article <56036@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>
>I guess I am thinking this, Cal's starting 5 could be as good on paper as
>anybody else in the conference(maybe better). I thought Zona had a great
>class, but Gary seems to indicate they're real raw at this point. Oregon
>State has talent too, and UCLA won't drop out of the picture completely
>but at this point, Cal might be as good as anybody in the conference.

Not a chance.  Cal will be third in the conference this year, at best.
They're all too raw.  Well, okay, maybe second.  You never know if
aRiZonA will its patented end of the season el-foldo early, rather
than just in the NCAA tournament.

And here's the inside scoop:  all this stuff about UCLA "being down"
this year is just a bunch of pipe-dreams by all the Bruin wannabes.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  Richard Petruska is the
Real Thing.  Watch for him as one of the strongest centers not only
in the conference, but in the entire country this year.

The Bruins may take a little time to gel again without MacLean and
Murray -- but less than one might think, thanks to the European tour.

And after that, the "conference race" is all over...

- Trent E. Lange

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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Recruiting News (with emphasis on Kansas)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:48:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.191455.20993@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.212618.23268@Csli.Stanford.EDU> orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke) writes:
>>(2) BOBBY CRAWFORD, 6'2" pg, Houston, TX: His list includes Kansas,
>>	Vanderbilt, UCLA, Michigan, and Stanford (!).  (What, no SWC
>>	teams?)
>
>With one exception, we don't play basketball in the SWC.
>

I'm still trying to figure out who the above-named exception is
(in recent years)  :)


>With one exception, we don't play football either.
>
>- goober (exceptional) smith

Agreed!

Back to basketball.  Someone recently posted here about some highly
regarded recruit who's decided on Rice.  Is this true?  Also, another
question for Rice b-ball fans (I have yet to make it for a game).
Is Chester Magg (the Rice "superstar" who was to lead Rice to an SWC
championship before being declared acadmically ineligible last season)
still around?  Is he playing this year?  If all of this is true, I
might actually pay my athletic fee this year ... :)
-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
"In the worst case scenario, investigators would find a direct link to
 financing Iraqi military expenditures." - George Bush, February 13, 1990,
 in a memo to his secretary of Agriculture
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From: usenet@news.orst.edu (Usenet News admin)
Subject: Re: Shaq's impact
Keywords: n
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:21:26 GMT

Re Shaqs impact in college. Re statements from TCB TURNER that Shaq didnt
shine in college. Re: what makes you think he will be any better in the pros.
From: navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre)
SHeeeeeet. I turn my back on this newgroup for a second and all this rubbish
breaks out. Wake up out there! Shaq has been the man in college bball since
his freshman year. THE MAN. Get it? He was by far the most dominating player
in college. He had an incredible NCAA tournament this year. WAKE UP. I truly
believe that their are some idiots on this net who wouldnt have drafted Shaq
to the late first round early second round. What a joke! Sometimes breaks 
just dont come your way re why LSU didnt win it all. Look at UNLV losing to
Duke two years ago. Duke got lucky. UNLV loses even though they are a far
far superior team. It happens all the time in everysport. Especially in 
winner take all situations. The best team does not always win. LSU may not
have been the best team, but they had the best player and could easily beat
any other team on any given day. 
  By the way, have fun bashing brown. The man is putting together another
  great team piece by piece. 

  pinhead
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Cal News (was: UCLA News)
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:09:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:

>Way down if Cal is a favorite. I expect Harmon to be an exciting place
>this season, but there will probably be some real disasters on the 
>road. 

One thing about Cal that nobody has mentioned is that they've scheduled
FIVE games in the Oakland Colliseum this year.  My father-in-law is furious.
They seem to play exceedingly poorly in Oakland (according to my FiL, they 
have an 0-fer going there, but it's probably not quite that bad).  
And, the crowds in Oakland are always kind of sparse (compared with a
jammed Harmon).

I'd say that Cal is not at an advantage for the games in Oakland.

I don't know which ones are there.  I would assume UCLA and Stanford,
plus maybe some non-con games.
--

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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Georgia Tech report wanted
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:58:29 GMT


Anyone care to email/post a Georgia Tech preview for this coming
season?  I don't have my hopes too high, but have no clue how Cremins
is doing in the recruiting department lately ....

"Engineering Action is Fantastic" --> give me a freakin' break. 
                                   And you UMASSers use VAXs?
                                   Hate to actually see the action :)

(so flame me-  I'm a native NewEnglander converted to Southerner ...)



                                     

-- 
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"In the worst case scenario, investigators would find a direct link to
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From: mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley)
Subject: Re: The Sweet Sixteen...
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 13:48:56 EDT

In article <1992Sep11.161830.14876@newstand.syr.edu> brule@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Mark R. Brule) writes:
>>> Syracuse
>>
>>!!!
>> 
>
>Very interesting comment...perhaps you could elaborate?
>
>As it is, Syracuse had an all-right year last year (21-9) and lost
>one starter, Dave Johnson.  Granted he was a major player in the
>team's success, they have a terrific recruit in John Wallalce coming
>int that should add a new dimension to the team.  In many he ways
>he is seen as the second coming of Derrick Coleman.
>

     Don't forget Otis Hill is also down low.  And returning are
a much improving Conrad McRae, an awesome Lawrence Moten, an
impresive sophomore class (not quite the Fab Five, but good), and
two red-shirted freshman.

-matt ' it's pre-season, I'm allowed to woof' hanley

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Oklahoma State Schedule
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:25:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.122320@mccall.com>  writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep14.120122.19687@rtsg.mot.com>, merklin@rtsg.mot.com  
(Teresa B. Merklin) writes:
> >NOTE: Schedule subject to change without my approval.
> 
> I do wish they'd consult us before making changes:-)

> So the question: What's the opinion of OSU down there(in Stillwater,
> Dallas too if it matters) for this coming year?

Well, I think it's cruel that they take advantage of Oral Roberts
by playing him 5 on 1, especially if it is full court.

I think they could better round out their schedule and improve their
NCAA chances by playing 5 on 5 against the following: 

1/21 @ Oral Roberts, with George Washington, James Madison, Robert
	Morris, and Brigham Young 7:35

3/4  Oral Roberts, with Jefferson and Lee, John s. Hopkins, and LSU  7:35

Oops, sorry, forgot LSU is no longer a one-man team...

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From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Test your Final 4 knowledge
Date: 5 Sep 92 04:36:04 GMT


In response to the question about starters for the NCAA champions,
wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) responded to Jazzy J:
 
>| Villanova 1985: Pickney-F, McClain-G, ?? ?? ??
> Jensen-G, McLain-F, Pressley-F
> (Pinckney was the center)
 
I'm surprised at Richard.  One would think that the son of two Villanova
professors would remember the details a little better :-)
 
Jensen was a shooting guard who sat out most of the season recovering
from arthroscopic surgery.  He was on fire during the NCAA tournament,
but did not start.  He replaced Dwight Wilber early in the games.
Wilber had his own day in the sun a year earlier, when he came off
the bench to beat Georgetown with a buzzer beater.
 
The other five starters were Ed Pinckney     -- C
                             Duayne McLain   -- F
                             Gary McClain    -- G
                             Harold Pressley -- F
                             Dwight Wilber   -- G
 
Jensen, McClain, McLain, Pinckney and Georgetown's Patrick Ewing were
all named to the All NCAA Tourney team, with Pinckney as MVP.
 
Presley played incredible defense, but has the distinction of missing
the only Villanova field goal attempt in the second half.
 
Mark
From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UMASS!!! - 1993
Date: 15 Sep 1992 03:29:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Sep14.180400.9055@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:

|> 
|> Hey, I'll believe *you*; someone posted on what makes it so tough ...
|> Those UMESS !!! guys *still* haven't told us what makes the Cage
|> so hard to play basketball in. Bent rims? Low beams? Tile floor?
|> Leftover ice from the hockey machine? Old vax parts?
|> 

Maybe they got it confused with the floor of the Garden ...
(even if it is on the other half of the state).

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

 "I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
  reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use."  - Galileo
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From: brule@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Mark R. Brule)
Subject: Re: The Sweet Sixteen...
Organization: Coherent Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:18:30 EDT

In article <1992Sep10.183017.11361@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <markts.716139742@mcl> markts@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark T. Schmidt)  
>writes:
>
>> UMASS
>
>UMASS!!!, please.
>

What are the prospects for the Minutemen this year?  I have the feeling
that they graduated a good portionof their players...is this the case?

>> Syracuse
>
>!!!
> 

Very interesting comment...perhaps you could elaborate?

As it is, Syracuse had an all-right year last year (21-9) and lost
one starter, Dave Johnson.  Granted he was a major player in the
team's success, they have a terrific recruit in John Wallalce coming
int that should add a new dimension to the team.  In many he ways
he is seen as the second coming of Derrick Coleman.

Another thing the Orange have going for them is that the internal
investigation has been completed and the NCAA ruling should be in
before the season starts.  There have been an enormous number of
distractions over the last 2 years which will all (thankfully) be
resolved.  Perhaps we can get back to playing basketball.


>How about let the real POSTS begin.  Maybe you should talk about
>the Gauchos a little - we saw them a couple times on ESPN against
>teams like NMSU.

>Something useful besides "My team is the grandest", perhaps, except
>in the .sig, of course.  Maybe you can ask your sysadmin how to add
>such a thing, if you so choose.  The worst that could happen would 
>be, perhaps, "UCSB!!!" and maybe a trip to the Sweet Sixteen.  Hell,
>it worked for UMASS!!! last year. 
>  

While I agree with what you said here, perhaps you could follow it up
a posting of your own that is less content-free...

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From: usmalik@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Sweet Sixteen and Great Midwest
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:19:16 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

It seems like people choosing the sweet sixteen are missing the Great Midwest
Conference.  I believe there will be three teams in the NCAA and atleast two in
the final tally of sixteen.

Memphis State ----- >  Final Four
Marquette     ----- >  Last 8
Cincinatti    ----- >  Round of 32
and may be the Blue Demons of Depaul may qualify for the round of 64.
From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA News
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:23:05 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

In article <56035@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>
>After reading your post regarding Arizona's freshman class, I am leaning
>towards Cal as my preseason favorite to win the Pac-10. 

Oh sure, go ahead. Hype the Bears right into oblivion. This is a team
that only managed a handful of conference wins last year. I'd say they're
looking to be competitive in the conference and get an NCAA berth. 
Let's not hang a "favorite" sign on them before Jason Kidd plays a
single game and gArY's favorite player, Brian Hendrick, hasn't 
tested his injury in competition. 

>
>Pac looks competitive but down next year.
>

Way down if Cal is a favorite. I expect Harmon to be an exciting place
this season, but there will probably be some real disasters on the 
road. 

Ken B.
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA News
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:40:50 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <21770@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>Reports in the Tucson papers praised the play of O'Bannon to no end. IT appears
>that he was clearly the best player on the court and was capable of playing
>the experienced competition with ease. Now the question seems to be how
>much help will he get from the rest of the Ruin's lineup...

From Matthew's post, I guess that neither Petruska or Kevin Dempsey played,
so its not unrealistic that a much healthier Ed could be the best player
on the court. The starting lineup won't be the Bruins problem, that will
be the bench where the 3 guys they need to come through will be Zimmerman,
and 2 freshman(Dempsey and Ike Nwankwo).

After reading your post regarding Arizona's freshman class, I am leaning
towards Cal as my preseason favorite to win the Pac-10. I think Zona will
need one more competent bigman to win it, and from what you wrote, Bohannon
and Blair might not be ready.

Pac looks competitive but down next year.




Russ Smith
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