HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Is it really possible to post anonymously?
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:43:29 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Organisation: Wassat?!

Ivan_Awfulitch@Scratchy.com writes:

>In article <kg9TTB2w165w@anon.o.mous>, hopefully@anon.o.mous wrote:
>> 
>> asu@panther4.panther.mot.com (Russ Trotter) writes:
>> 
>> > Hello,
>> >   I know somebody here has got to know this one...but...is
>> > it really possible to post anonymously...untraceable?
>> > Is this just a pipe dream?
>> >  
>> I think so.  I'm going to attempt it right now.  Note, the signature

There is a clue in that in the Path: line it goes from honeywell!tcscs!nowhere.
so someone could get the resolution of your machine and if it was something
that needed to be followed up then a person could contact the sysadmin of your
machine and get a 'last' of the time of that post.

If someone has access to a hub newsfeeder they could sneak in some sites
behind them so it looked like it was passing through. I'm not sure if that
would be nice for the routing algorithm though. It might not arrive at those
sites which would be yet another clue to narrow it down more.

ObHack:

Living this long...

Mark.
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: ranger@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John C. Tennyson)
Subject: Re: Yodaspeak (was TV show)
Organization: University Computing Services
	<1992Oct30.141057.1024@davidge.com>
	<BIANCO.92Nov11151433@crocus.cs.odu.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:52:03 GMT

In article <BIANCO.92Nov11151433@crocus.cs.odu.edu> bianco@crocus.cs.odu.edu (David J. Bianco) writes:

:   hmm... I've only got the standard Jive/Valspeak filters
:   (plus the BIFFSTER!!1!! filter posted recently 8) My 

Standard??  hmm..... I must be missing something, where are they obtainable
i've been starting to collect these for giggle (you can get some wierd
combos like 'drawl | chef' well you get the idea ;^)

Obhack: dealing with all the mail i've been getting recelntly about
	how do you post anonymously or mail anontmously, etc..... i've
	been thinking of creating an automated replyer giving the same
	reply to all of them, but its too much fun talking to them ;^)

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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: ameyer@cbnews.cb.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Subject: Re: VW Hack
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:52:06 GMT

In alt.hackers, crawford@boole.mitre.org (Randy Crawford) writes:

> Actually the best way to clean the windshield of a VW is to buy a rabbit.

But they shed so much, you might as well use a rag in the first place.

Andy
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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: crawford@boole.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Subject: Re: VW Hack
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:07:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.021539.21394@zip.eecs.umich.edu> chiner@nova.gmi.edu writes:
>2119737@hydra.maths.unsw.oz.au (The Jester) writes:
>: 
>: I am the happy (if occasionally agravated) owner of a VW Beetle - a convertable
>: actually. Recently, while driving, I noticed the disgusting amount of gunk
>: on my wind-screen, and I tried to get rid of it with the windscreen washers
>: (you know, those little squirty things that put water on your windscreen).
>: I turned them on, but the water came out in a little dribble, and did little 
>: use. I shrugged my shoulders and put up with the dirt.
>
>The winter time was the only time that I needed them... ('73 Beetle)...
>Here in Michigan, I did the easy thing... just waited for it to snow...
>and then used what little bit of heat came out of the defrosters, to melt
>the snow, and it cleaned the windshield...  worked pretty well...
>48,000 miles, and still going... :-)

VW recommends that the spare be overinflated to allow for at least some
washer use before the spare becomes unusable.  Around 50 PSI were suggested.

I owned 2 beetles while attending Michigan State.  Don't count on the 
"heater" or "defroster" to be of any use until at least 20 minutes of 
driving time have elapsed.  I also found that the best way to clean the 
windshield was stopping in parking lots and scrubbing it with a handful 
of snow.

Actually the best way to clean the windshield of a VW is to buy a rabbit.

-- 

| Randy Crawford        crawford@mitre.org        The MITRE Corporation
|                                                 7525 Colshire Dr., MS Z421
| N=1 -> P=NP           703 883-7940              McLean, VA  22102
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: menees@utkvx3.utk.edu (Menees, Bill)
Subject: NSA Info...?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:02:00 GMT

	This is might be a strange request for this group, but could someone
pass along some info on the NSA and their computers, especially ones accesible
through the Internet.  Of course, I'm totally not interested in a stupid
cracking attempt.  I'm a math/comp. sci student soon to graduate, and I am
considering seeking employment there.  I would like to know anything legal that
I could.  Thanks.


DoomedHack:  Trying to make the Atari 400 keyboard work with my Gateway 486,
just so I can spill my Jolt and not worry.
From: jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu (Lee A. Jorgensen)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: small request ...
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:16:48 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Following the thread of different 'speaks' ... could someone
send me BIFFSTER, jive, yoda, and valspeak ...

I have underwater, chef, drawl, fudd .... willing to trade.

Thanks ... Lee.

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               Sorry for the inconvenience.
From: plee@cco.caltech.edu (Patrick L. Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Testing again..
Date: 13 Nov 92 08:05:12 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

Will it work????
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: ping from 30,000 feet
Date: 14 Nov 1992 02:22:46 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan
Distribution: world
Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hone.citi.umich.edu

here's a recent hack you might enjoy ...

Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 15:01:48 EST
From: peter honeyman <honey@citi.umich.edu>
To: little-work@citi.umich.edu
X-Location: Airport lounge, San Jose, CA
Subject: airfone slip experiences

this message is being composed with mh/comp running in an x11r5/xterm
on an ibm ps-2 model l40-sx running mach 2.6, on northwest flight 181,
which departed detroit at 9:30 and is due in san jose at 14:45.  it
will be delivered with smtp as soon as i get a chance, probably when i
reach tahoe city.  [i was able to send it from the san jose airport.]

i brought up slip over gte airfone with a konex koupler model 203
acoustic coupler and a telebit qblazer running at 300 baud.

the acoustic coupler is a good match for the airfone -- i was able to
make a very snug coupling.  i buried the mated pair under pillows.

the microport 4232 modem was uncooperative, and started complaining
about a low battery before i was able to establish a connection.

with the qblazer, i was unable to connect to the remote worldblazer at
high baud rates, but i did get a 300 baud connection going, whereupon i
brought up slip.  here are some representative ping times:

  hone:; ping doom
  PING doom.citi.umich.edu (141.211.128.207): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=0. time=46139. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=1. time=50240. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=2. time=52320. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=3. time=55670. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=4. time=57120. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=5. time=59330. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=6. time=63930. ms
  64 bytes from 141.211.128.207: icmp_seq=8. time=63820. ms
  ^C
  ----doom.citi.umich.edu PING Statistics----
  75 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 89% packet loss
  round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 46139/56071/63930

you get the picture -- 90% packet loss and 60 second round trip times.
i'm guessing that the packets spent all thayt time in the v.42 layer,
although i did not see the error correction light flashing.

i tried to get smtp and telnet sessions going, but they timed out.

in summary, it was something of an accomplishment to get slip running
and packets bouncing from 30,000 feet, but a limited success at best.

        peter

ps:  i found 117v (the flight exhausted my batteries) and an rj-11 jack
in the san jose airport, where i have a lengthy layover.
From: kilgore@wuntvor.pillar.com (Stan Hall)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: VW Hack
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 04:26:22 CST
Organization: Pillar Communications, Oklahoma City, Ok
Comments: The SysOp

9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil) writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.075829.27528@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, 2119737@hydra.maths.
> > 
> >I am the happy (if occasionally agravated) owner of a VW Beetle - a converta
     ...
> > 
> >Later, my curiosity brought be back to the car, in an effort to discover
> >why my windscreen washers failed. A little snooping around under the bonnet,
> >and in the appropriate manuals revealed the answer: My spare tyre was flat.
> > 
> >Yes, you guessed it, the windscreen washers run on the pressure in the spare
> >tyre. 
> 
>   I used to have a VW van. The pressure for the washers came not from the 
> spare, but from the water container itself in the lid of which an air valve 
> is built.
> 

   The bugs that I have had both have had the same kind of tank (as you 
   described) but one had a hose that screwed on the lid and then screwed
   into the spare tire.  It is my guess that both of you are correct.

   We shouldn't get into VW hacks, it would provide for way too much
   traffic for this group :-)

   CommonVWHack:  Rigging the accelerator cable to get you home when the
      cable breaks.  The last time it broke I hit the hardware store and
      just clamped the two ends of the wire together. A friend of mine said
      he used to carry around kite string for such an occasion.  Just run
      it out the window and around back and you are set to go.
  
   BetterVWHack:  Buying an extra accelerator cable to keep in the car so
      you can avoid the above.

   VirtualVWHack: Installing a new radiator on my bug (Don't forget the
      antifreeze its getting quite cold).

   VWKludge: Using plywood to hold my poor '67 Baja together since the rust
      is giving way.  
   
   VWmiracle: Managing to stop safely while driving down the highway at
       75mph and my hood comes flying through the windshield (can you say
       air brakes?)

   UselessHalfHack: Wasting the time to set up a mail alias so I can post
       to alt.hackers easier instead of just posting directly with rnews.


   Kilgore



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The Obelisk, Oklahoma City, OK -- +1 405 325 9607
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: janl@ifi.uio.no (Jan Nicolai Langfeldt)
Subject: Re: USA Today KNOWS what a hacker is...
Organization: Folkeaksjonen for gjeninsettelse av Revolvermagasinet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:03:30 GMT
Originator: janl@bera.ifi.uio.no


In article <1dotlsINNcag@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, lancer@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis 
Foskett) writes:
> >A 
> >hacker is someone who circumvents security codes for the fun of 
> >it.

No, that's a SCO "unix" hacker :)

> OBHack:  Getting ANYTHING to compile under CTIX...

OBHack: Writing a "TSR" for CP/M, to make the "Function keys" have a function.
  I managed the part with giving the f-keys a function (bios listings are
  handy :-), but never finnished the TSR part.

Nicolai

--
Nicolai Langfeldt, "Bugs made while you wait"             
Internet: janl@ifi.uio.no
From: lancer@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: USA Today KNOWS what a hacker is...
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:05:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

>USA TODAY Update
>Nov. 9, 1992
>Source: USA TODAY:Gannett National Information Network
    
>STUDENT ACCUSED OF PURGING DATA:
>   In what might be the first prosecution of its kind, the Justice 
>Department on Friday accused a former University of Cincinnati 
>student of destroying government property - computerized research 
>from the National Security Agency. Tareq Samir Dawod, 23, of 
>Dayton, Ohio, admitted using a computer to purge the data, 
>according to an FBI affidavit.

>DAWOD MAY HAVE BEEN HACKER:
>   Tareq Samir Dawod is accused of destroying computerized 
>research from the National Security Agency and has been charged 
>with destroying governemnet property. "He meant to do what he 
>did," said FBI spokesman Edwin Boldt. "I just don't know if he 
>meant to erase government work or he was just hacking around." A 
>hacker is someone who circumvents security codes for the fun of 
>it.
    
>[edited]

>SIMILAR CASE LED TO PROBATION:
>   Behlen said the only similar case involved Robert Morris, a 
>former Cornell University student, whom a judge put on probation 
>for three years in 1990. Morris created a program that immobilized 
>thousands of linked government and university computers 
>nationwide. Morris was convicted of computer fraud rather than 
>destruction of government property.

AAAAARGH!!!

Let me quote that again...  "A hacker is someone who circumvents
security codes for the fun of it."

need I say more?

.s.

I'm a hacker who tries to get things to compile under CTIX on my
miniframe.

OBHack:  Getting ANYTHING to compile under CTIX...
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Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
From: jones@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: New Ph.D. Program
Organization: institute for the learning sciences
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:56:28 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: <KWB107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: RE: BANCMC:  DEOS-L
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:01:54 GMT


  - - The original note follows - -

Date:    Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:53:41 -0600 (CST)
From: MASOUDER@OA.STKATE.EDU (Mick Souder)
Subject: RE: BANCMC:  DEOS-L #33
>Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 10:15:32 +1300
>From: pennings@matai.vuw.ac.nz
>Subject: RE: BANCMC:  DEOS-L #30.

>

>Is CMC or even distance education the answer to poverty?  Probably not, but
>don't let it keep you from finishing your thesis.
>
>Anthony Pennings
>Co-author "Computerization and Development in Southeast Asia" AMIC.
>Victoria University of Wellington, NZ

Anthony,

CMC (and CMC based DE) can be *an* answer to poverty by offering people
in an underdevveloped region (in worlds 1-3 and a-z) an opportunity to learn
and use marketable skills. CMC would also allow them to use thoses skills in
their location as telecommuters.  Once the wiring goes up and the network is
in place, there is no reason for people to *have* to move to cities for
employment.  As jobs become less placebound, the better chance a person in
underdeveloped region has to be part of the wider community and share in the
fruits of modern society without contributing to some of the ills of creating
of over crowded cities.

By the same token, a lack access to DE and CMC is in itself a kind of poverty
that deprives people the ability to participate in the discourse of the
world using emerging technology.

The trick is helping people in underdeveloped areas to not only use CMC in
academic settings but to transfer the CMC skills to enhance a person's
ability to profit from the technology economically.


Mick Souder
Coordinator, Weekend College New Pathways Program
College of St. Catherine
St. Paul, Minnesota USA
masouder@oa.stkate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: <KWB107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: RE: BANCMC:  DEOS-L
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:57:37 GMT


  - - The original note follows - -

Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 10:15:32 +1300
From: pennings@matai.vuw.ac.nz
Subject: RE: BANCMC:  DEOS-L #30.


Dear Dana, (Re: CMC in Developing Countries)
Yes and no.  "Developing" countries have been changing quite rapidly in the
last twenty years. Most are heterogeneous societies containing substantial
pockets of wealth.  Poverty is rampant but have you travelled in the outbacks
of the United States or England lately?  The G-7 are not surrounded by hordes
of Somalias.

Is CMC or even distance education the answer to poverty?  Probably not, but
don't let it keep you from finishing your thesis.

Anthony Pennings
Co-author "Computerization and Development in Southeast Asia" AMIC.
Victoria University of Wellington, NZ
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: <KWB107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Cheating in on-line courses
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:02:24 GMT

I believe that this is the group to which this posting is intended.  A note
to all persons wishing to post to the project: Please, CLEARLY, OBVIOUSLY,
and REDUNDANTLY identify the Bangkok Project group to which you wish your
comments to be forwarded.  On behalf of all of us with the project, THANKS!
Ken Borland

  - - The original note follows - -

Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:09 MST
From: PATGLASS@BOOTES.UNM.EDU
Subject: Cheating in on-line courses

Remember the old addage, "Cheaters only cheat themselves."?  I think it
is an appropriate one to remember now.  Yes, people will cheat on-line;
I mean, why not?  They cheat in every other aspect of life?

Maybe the question should be "Is it really worth trying to stop it?"  As
long as the cheaters are only cheating themselves out of their own learning,
who cares?  I'm sure someone who cheated his/her way through law school, or
paid someone else to take the courses for them could not be a very proficient
lawyer and would not last long in either a firm or private business.  Although
it might be unfortunate for the first few clients who had to disprove his
credentials.

I know several people who basically cheated their way through undergraduate
school.  Most of them are very successful now.  They either married rich,
finally buckled down when it was time to go to work or get a master's degree,
or ended up in a field where all of their cheated-in classes proved to be
irrelevant to their careers or life.

So I say let the cheaters go, as long as they are not interfering with anyone
else's money, credit or whatever.
As long as someone is taking the courses and making the grades, SOMEONE is
learning something, be it the registered student or not.

Patti Glass
Graduate Student
University of New Mexico
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: <KWB107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: BANCMC:  DEOS-L
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:02:08 GMT


  - - The original note follows - -

Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:55:09 +1000
From: "LLOYD HOLLIDAY, LA TROBE UNIV, EDUCATION" <EDULH@lure.latrobe.edu.au>
Subject: Re: BANCMC:  DEOS-L #33.
In reply to Rosa Fagundes:
Education does NOT necessarily solve problems of poverty
and disadvantage. School kids themselves know this. In
South Africa they chanted (I can't remember the exact
words): It meant revolutionary change before education.
Education is often a means of ensuring that the status quo
of various groups in society is maintained. This is true
of the First world as well. I venture that it is not
the absence or presence of DE technology that will change
the lives of 3rd world kids for the better. Yes, many
3rd world countries have more sophisticated technologies
inplace for education etc. It is something about basic
infrastructures that have been built up in 1st world
countries over a lengthy period and ideology that affects
the success or failure of education, including DE.

Lloyd Holliday
La Trobe University
Australia
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc