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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Trivia Question (Blofeld)
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:09:11 GMT

In article <92317.104039BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu> Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.204958.23508@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu
>(Chris Meadows) says:
>>
>>In article <1992Nov6.211005.6134@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr
>>>Max Von Sydow -- Never Say Never
>  ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
>Are you sure about this? I don't remember there being a Blofeld in NSNA.
>I remember Max's character, but I don't think he was ESB.

Yup, he was. He had a beard and even the cat. He wasn't shown for very long.
Largo was the maincharacter bad guy, that's why.

philip
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: skadron@owlnet.rice.edu (Kevin Skadron)
Subject: Re: Fleming Bond vs. Movie Bond and other Ramb
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:24:34 GMT

I thought it might be interesting to keep this thread going...

In article <1dp5ctINNjja@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> GRANTH@brownvm.brown.edu () writes:
>[stuff deleted] 
>Best Bond Novel: Casino Royale.  Never done properly on film.

No way!  Bond is a cardboard tough guy here, and is developed much more in the
later books.  In fact, most of the characters are pretty flat here, even
Le Chiffre.   
For character development, I think Moonraker is tough to beat, and although I
thought it pretty boring the first time I read it, I've come to appreciate it
much more.  It is, however, somewhat short on excitement.

>[stuff deleted]
>Worst Bond Film: Man with the Golden Gun
>[stuff deleted]

Yeah, it's pretty poor, but I think Moonraker is far worse.  Moonraker is
truly abysmal.

>[stuff deleted]

Otherwise, I agree with you!

-- 
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From: futrena@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: 007 WILL RETURN, etc
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:13:11 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov7.203845.23075@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
> 
> James Bond has been around in the movies for 30 years now.  How 
> long will he continue to be in the movies?  Somewhere down the line,
> will James Bond walk into the new British Intelligence office in
> the New London space station in geosynchronous orbit above London, 
> toss his space helmet on the hatrack, kiss Moneypenny, see M, then
> catch a shuttle flight to Mars?
> 
> What I'm saying is, how far into the future do you suppose James
> Bond movies will be around?
> 
Probably about as long as people find the character, the books, and
the movies interesting.

However, if you like the idea of space espionage, try reading the
_Stainless Steel Rat_ and related novels by Harry Harrison.  The books
are told by a galactic, super criminal who gets "hired" by the super-
secret, galactic, intelligience agency.  They are quite entertaining.
Classic sci-fi at its best.
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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: 007 WILL RETURN...AND RETURN...AND RETURN...AND RETURN...
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James Bond has been around in the movies for 30 years now.  How 
long will he continue to be in the movies?  Somewhere down the line,
will James Bond walk into the new British Intelligence office in
the New London space station in geosynchronous orbit above London, 
toss his space helmet on the hatrack, kiss Moneypenny, see M, then
catch a shuttle flight to Mars?

What I'm saying is, how far into the future do you suppose James
Bond movies will be around?

--
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    a naval commission."  -- Corwin, SIGN OF THE UNICORN, Roger Zelazny
From: tasos@cs.bu.edu (Anastasios Kotsikonas)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Jaws in Boston
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:09:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: tasos@cs


Jaws (Richard Kiel) makes daily visits for photos and autographs at the
International Automobile Show this week. Drop by and take a close at this
"monster".
From: mwormley@zeus.calpoly.edu (Matt Wormley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: A book........
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:34:18 GMT
 <1992Nov2.233639.1199@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> <720801537.4296.0@sappho.weh.andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <720801537.4296.0@sappho.weh.andrew.cmu.edu> Maulik Harish Shah <msb0+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Hi!
>	I fancy myself a james bond enthusiast. When I was in England a couple of years ago I found a book called the Unauthorized Biography of James Bond (the name of the author escapes me at the moment). It was an EXTREMELY well done book (IMHO) and I 
>was wondering if anybody else had read it/heard of it, and how well it fits in with know James Bond "Facts".
>

   I think you might be thinking of 'james Bond - The Authorized Biography
of 007' by John Pearson, Flemming's biographer.  It was published by 
Sidgwick & Jackson in England and by William Morrow & Co. in the US.  I
haven't read the book but I too have heard good things.

    worm
From: ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad Adam)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Hello...
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:54:44 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I was browsing the board and decided to join.  I am not bad with movie
bond trivia but need a little more help on the book bond.  Some opinions
I have:

The best James Bond:
1st. Sean Connery
2nd. Timothy Dalton

The best James Bond Movie:
1st.  The Living Daylights (For the Plot)
2nd.  Never Say Never Again (I like Sean Connery)

Tied for 3rd.

Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me (For his gadgets -- I want a powered
Gondola too.)

The best other Bond character...

Has to be Q 

---
It's been a while since I have seen some of the bonds so I am a bit rusty...

But, I will try the books...The board has me convinced that the books
are pretty good.

Oh well, just some thoughts....

    -Chad

 
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From: dbrod@eng.clemson.edu (Douglas Brod)
Subject: Re: Anwers and questions.
Reply-To: dbrod@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:47:59 GMT

In article 22544@etek.chalmers.se, e2mano7@etek.chalmers.se (Magnus Norling) writes:
>Now the questions.
>
>1. Who did the purachute jump in the teaser of The Spy Who Loved Me?
>2. Where and when did bond say 'shocking, positively shocking'?
>3. What is Sean Connery's real name (or rather was)?

1. Rick Sylvester?
2.Licence to Kill?

These are both guesses.  Am I right?

Doug Brod
dbrod@eng.clemson.edu


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From: gisle@ifi.uio.no (Gisle Hannemyr)
Subject: Re: 007 movie & themes (an update)
Organization: gisle@ifi.uio.no
	<1992Nov3.081859.7978@posthorn.informatik.uni-kl.de>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:58:39 GMT
Originator: gisle@gyda.ifi.uio.no

In article <1992Nov3.081859.7978@posthorn.informatik.uni-kl.de> moeding@informatik.uni-kl.de (Stefan Moeding) writes:

> In article <1992Oct30.203214.23582@mprgate.mpr.ca>, vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li) writes:
>       [gun logo & movie list deleted]
> Here is the missing part:

We're still missing "Dr. No"  and "Casino Royale".
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Subject: Re: Some more trivia questions.
From: S947460@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Andrew Zaitsev)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:10:14 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

>(1) In which movie does Bond use a weapon on his wrist that is
>triggered by a nerve impulse ?
>(4) And finally, in what movie does Bond shoot a person who was
>aiming a shot at him from a tree?
>
>Kanad
 
I think, both of these are from the "Moonraker".
Not sure about questions 2 and 3, though.
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Subject: Re: Jaws in Boston
From: ericd@gaudi.CSUFresno.EDU (Eric Douglas)
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:00:17 PST
Organization: CSU Fresno
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In article <101018@bu.edu> tasos@cs.bu.edu (Anastasios Kotsikonas) writes:
>
>Jaws (Richard Kiel) makes daily visits for photos and autographs at the
>International Automobile Show this week. Drop by and take a close at this
>"monster".

When I was about 12, I got to meet Richard Kiel at the Fresno Air Terminal.
My family and I were just getting back from LA, and he was just getting
back from SA, (I believe he said "I just got through filming a movie.", 
maybe 'Moonraker'?) I'm assuming he was headed back to his home in Oakhurst,
CA. 

Anyways, he is a very nice, polite gentleman. I highly recommend meeting 
him in person, just to dispell the myth.

--eric

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:00:42 -0500 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fleming Bond vs. Movie Bond and other Ramb
Distribution: na

I just saw Never Say Never Again....gee, I can't see why I liked it
before...as far as bonds go...it was rather dry and boring...the acting
was rather poor and as far as my opinions go..."M" was a jerk, that
other contact was a twit and I want the real "Q"....this one just didn't
fit the part.
Just my opinions...

    -Chad
From: tasos@cs.bu.edu (Anastasios Kotsikonas)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Fleming Bond vs. Movie Bond and other Ramb
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:02:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <BxJDJ3.DAC@unix.amherst.edu> craig@aux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett) writes:
>Oh, come now. The car stunt and the presence of J.W. Pepper made this one worth watching alone! I'm sorry...Never Say Never Again was easily the biggest dog 
>they ever made. I can't even sit through that one!




Not only that, Never Say Never Again is a carbon copy of Thunderbal.



Tasos


Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Gardner's books
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:38:48 GMT

I'd like to know the opinions of other Bond fans regarding the books by
John(?) Gardner. I read "License Renewed" when it first came out and thought it
was so-so (except Bond drives a Saab of all things). Then the next book came out
and sucked so bad I couldn't force myself to finish it. I've heard that Gardner
is a respected writer for his non-Bond books. But the Bond stuff was written on a
3rd grade level. Very shallow and corny.

But then it got worse. In one of Gardner's books (maybe someone can supply the
title) Bond quits the British Secret Service and becomes a free-lance assassin.
Yeah right. Like there's even enough assassin work out there to pay for his cars
and women. I'm sure this assassin thing was some sort of trap, but who in the
high-risk world of espionage would be ignorant enough to fall for it?

Then in another book, Bond joins forces with the KGB to fight, Oh my
God, a SECRET CULT OF NAZIS BENT ON TAKING OVER THE WORLD!! Give me a damn break.
Not only is a plot like this too stupid to comprehend, it was also used over and
over again in the 70's (i.e. Boys from Brazil, etc.). 

I freely admit I didn't read either of these two travesties of reason, but the
plots sound too ridiculous to waste my time on. What are your opinions of the new
books. They only make me thankful that Ian Fleming wrote as many as he did before
he died. I bet Gardner even envisions his Bond as being Roger Moore (aaagh)!

Flame away,

Anthony
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: 007 WILL BE BACK
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 20:43:42 GMT

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I think a pretty interesting idea might be James Bond meets 
Robotech...  No, just kidding.  :) :).

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From: buffalo@wam.umd.edu (Duncan D. Sterling)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond,alt.test
Subject: Best Bonds and the Ongoing Series (was RE: Best Bonds/Best Movies)
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:11:59 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

I think in order of preference, the best bonds are: Connery, Dalton, Moore, and
Lazenby.  None of them are truly bad, although Moore got too bloody
silly about the whole thing towards the end of his run.  As for the best
flicks, probably the "middle period" Connery movies, such as Thunderball,
You Only Live Twice, and Diamonds Are Forever would top my list. Admittedly
though, I don't think there have been any truly attrocious Bond Films, just
"less good" ones.  I see View to a Kill as a low point.  Lazenby might have
been better with development; hell, Connery was pretty green in Dr. No, and 
still growing into the role a bit even in From Russia with love.  Dalton's
first attempt was excellent, I believe, although he sagged a bit in his 
second attempt.  

But what about the potential of the ongoing series?  I think that some
people may mistakenly see the end of the Cold War as the end of Bond, but
in reality, this means more spying than ever, and less stability in the
real world.  If fact, if John Gardiner (Flemming's current clone) has any
sharpness of wit whatsoever, he should find a bumper crop of new and
realistic potential plots.  One of the things I miss the most from the
earlier films is the sense of "realism", i.e., realistic threats to world
stability, the balance of power, etc, and let's not forget frontline
technology (Bond films have always been showcase for cutting edge 
gadgets, real or otherwise)  In any case, let's hope the series doesn't
become what Hollywood considers a "Dinosaur"... so much for my "2 cents".


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: mskeen@willamette.edu (Michael A. Skeen)
Subject: Re: PRE-TITLE Sequences
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:26:57 GMT

>>I always thought that there was only one double-nought (as Jethro Bodeen would say)
>>agent at a time.  When 001 died, then someone because 002.  James Bond became
>>007 on the death of 006 and when James dies, 008 would take over.
>>How could 3 of them gone on this trip together?  (I never saw the movie
>>or read the book or whatever Living Daylight was.)
Actually, the book has nothing to do with the opening sequence, or with
very little of the movie. (Except the scene when they smuggle the supposed
defector out of the Eastern Bloc. The main difference was that in the
book, the  country was East Germany before the Berlin wall had been
constrtucted.)

>	No, just as a counter-example, if you'll remember the beginning
>of Octopussy, a clown is chased from a circus and killed.  He falls through
>the glass door of an elegant house as he dies.  Later, M reveals that this was 00 (oops), M reveals that this was 008 who had infiltrated the fake-Faberge
>egg operation.  By your reckoning, this couldn't be so unless 007 had been
>killed.  Thank God that wasn't the case ;).
 Not to be picky, but it was 009.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
From: bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford)
Subject: Imagery (was Re: 007 WILL BE BACK)
Reply-To: bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford)
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:05:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.144147.16807@gallant.apple.com>,  (Craig Webb) writes:
...
|> For directors, I'd like to see Ridley Scott (Blade Runner) 
...

Hmm, it would be interesting to see what kind of imagery he
would add to a Bond film.  

If you take a close look at Blade Runner you will see repeated
images that conjure up "lack of privacy":  close-ups of eyes
of all sorts, spot lights shining into every window, and no respect
for non-smokers!

Any re-occuring images you've seen in Bond movies?  Of course
there's the obvious ones like guns, etc. but how about skiing?  

Darryl
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:09:26 EST
From: <SLR110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Subject: re:Christmas Stories we all miss

I believe the story you're thinking about is called "Santa Claus
is Coming To Town."  It took liitle Kris Kringle from a baby through
puberty to become the Santa we all know and love.  He was raised by
the toy-making elves ("The first toymakers to the king. . .") and had
to battle the terrible "winter warlock."  You'll be happy (or dismayed)
to know that this classic is available at almost all video stores
for about $14.95 or less (last Christmas it was even at the grocery
store) as one of a set of Christmas releases which included Frosty
the Snowman, The Night Before Christmas, and Rudolph.  I think they are
all by the Rankin-Bass company.
     The one I would like to locate was on in the early days of
the Muppets--it was called "The Great Santa Claus Caper" or something
to that effect.  Santa was kidnapped (elf-knapped?) and the elves had
to get him back.  It featured Jim Henson's muppets, and Jim Henson's
humor--for example, two elves disguised as rocks tried to sneak into
a cave where Santa was being held captive.  The lines went something
like this:  "I can't believe the guard didn't see us, he's really
taking us for 'granite'." and "I used to be a coward but now I'm a
little 'boulder'."  Does anyone else remember this show?
Sue
Newsgroups: alt.fan.disney.afternoon
From: ae815@yfn.ysu.edu (Marc Queen)
Subject: colecting...
Reply-To: ae815@yfn.ysu.edu (Marc Queen)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:50:53 GMT


how much is this worth:
 a poster in great condition from the "wish upon a star" contest of , umm,
1981, i think is the correct year?
anybody know?
it's got the castle, peter pan, pinnocchio on it; kindof a dark picture
actually
thanks in advance, but i bet it ain't worth much
oh well
later
elvy
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From: empire@dorm.rutgers.edu (Michael Kraft)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Subject: GIFS
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:21:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers College, Rutgers University

Anyone know of a place where I can get Gifs of Disney Afternoon shows?


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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: GIFS
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:18:29 GMT

In article <empire.37.721070514@dorm.rutgers.edu>, empire@dorm.rutgers.edu (Michael Kraft) writes:
> Anyone know of a place where I can get Gifs of Disney Afternoon shows?

Try tezuka.rest.ri.cmu.edu.
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From: empire@dorm.rutgers.edu (Michael Kraft)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Subject: Gifs
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:00:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers College, Rutgers University

Anyone know of a FTP site that has Disney Afternoon gifs? Thanks in advance.


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.lemurs
From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: The hell with Lemurs,
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:35:50 GMT


Why not lemmings?  I'm sure than any critter that commits mass-suicide would
be good to give to those people who aren't sure if they really WANT a pet
or not.  Of course, you'd have to get a few thousand of them, and live near
a cliff, but that's a small sacrifice in exchange for all the rich Lemming
droppings, which go so well on vegetables.

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