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From:         Henk Wieringa <H.Wieringa@MED.RUG.NL>
Subject:      Re: volume copy and trustees

> >Who find the right solution to copy a volume on another one.
> >
> >We have created a new volume.
> >then ncopy /s/e oldvol newvol
> >then rename oldvol temp
> >then rename newvol oldvol.
> >
> >There is no more trustees. So what can we do?.
>
> Get a copy of jrbut200.zip from Splicer, netlab2.usu.edu or risc.ua.edu.
> Use the program named trstlist. Something like:
>
> trstlist temp: /ddt/b >trustees.bat
>
> will list every directory and file trustee on the volume, and write them to
> trustees.bat as GRANT commands. Use your favourite editor to change every
> occurance of temp: to oldvol: (you should be able to do this in a single
> command). Execute trustees.bat and your trustee assignments will be restored.
> Check trstlist's in-built help - its a while since I used it for this, and
> the above command may not be complete.
>
> Its on my project list to write a NETCOPY utility which will replicate trustee
   s,
> all file attributes and ownership on the copied files.
>
> >Using ncopy on 200 Meg it stops  with something like: no more file handles...
> >Strange?
>
> I've found ncopy to be unreliable for this sort of thing. Use xcopy or any
> other utility which copy empty directories as well as those with files.
>
I've found Xcopy not completly reliable when copying (large number of)
files on a netware volume.

Henk

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:09:11 CST
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From:         Bill Froelich <froelich@MRCNEXT.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Etherlink III ? or other?

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>Folks,

>We are considering the Etherlink III card for use.
>The majority of workstations accessing the net are 386/486. Software
>being used is NW 3.11, NSCA Telnet, Gopher, WAIS, and various
>applications.  Are there suitable Drivers for this card?
>Problems?  Other suggestions on which card to use?
Take a look at the PC Mag dated Feb 9th they review lan cards and
to no big suprise the Etherlink III came out on top for clients

Today I switched 7 arcnet machines to Etherlink III 10BaseT worked great
even put two i the server, used the newest drivers I downloaded from the BBS
and plug and play.  Cards are "cake" to setup, simple software config.
I haven't tried other protocols yet, other than IPX but don't see a problem.
They ship with ODI and NDIS drivers as well as NW286, and NW386.  Don't know
if there are packet drivers yet, but s/b soon if not.  All in all I recommend
the cards!

--Bill Froelich
  froelich@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu

>Please provide comments about this card, or another suitable
>ethernet card.  You may reply directly to me.

>Thanks

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Steven Ploof                                       University of Texas
>Computer Programmer                                PO Box P, PCL 3.322
>Library Systems Division Group                     Austin, Tx  78713

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:06:27 EST
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From:         "Michael R. Fox" <mfox@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU>
Subject:      perferred server in 2.15c

  Would somebody tell me if the perferred server command can be used in
Netware 2.15c and where to put it.  I can find no reference to it in the
manuals that I can get to.  I tried using net.cfg and shell.cfg but neither
seems to work.

  Also as a matter of intrest to me, on a server with an arcnet nic and an
ethernet nic is it better to set the ethernet as primary card or does it
matter?

 Thanks for any help.
Michael R. Fox                  They will soar on wings like eagles;
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:55:33 -0800
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From:         Christine Moss <tmoss@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IP Tunnelling

On Thu, 21 Jan 1993, Rod Wilson wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Whenever this subject seems to appear on the list, a lot of people
> mention that they had problems running rconsole over an IP Tunnel.
>
> Is this the case for everyone using it? i.e. Is there anyone who has
> rconsole working over an IP Tunnel or is it a known problem?
>

Although I do not always have rconsole enabled, I have had no problem
running it over an IPTUNNEL when we have wanted to use it.

> The reason I ask this, is that I am looking at implementing IP
> Tunnelling, and if rconsole will not work it is a showstopper,
> and means that we needn't waste any time looking at it.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> Rod.Wilson@barclays.co.uk      "My opinions are my own
> Barclays Bank Plc               and do not reflect those
> England, U.K.                   of my company".
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From:  Kozhuryakin Alexander <alex@city.krasnoyarsk.su>
Subject: remote boot image file for DOS 5
Reply-To: alex@city.krasnoyarsk.su
Organization: City Administration of Krasnoyarsk
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:36:26 +0300
Summary: remote boot problem
Keywords: remote boot image file for Dos 5

Hello everybody !

Does anyone know of installing DOS 5 for remote boot diskless station.
I'm using Novell Netware 3.11 DOSGEN. There are not problems with DOS 3
image file, but when I make NET$DOS.SYS for DOS 5, station doesn't load
operation system(but NET$DOS.SYS is open durring booting).


Please reply by E-mail. Thanks.
E-mail: alex@city.krasnoyarsk.su


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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:01:58 -0500
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From:         Jameson Spence <jess@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      Printing problems with NWLite (fwd)

We are using an several applications networked with NWLite. Everything runs
fine with one exception. One applcation's data files become corrupted when
trying to print a report. Has anyone seen this happen before?

We are using the lastest IPXODI, LSL and NE2000 drivers from Novell (2.00)

Thanks very much

....Jamie

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From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: MIB's for Novell??
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:42:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.073412.6021@lut.ac.uk> R.Thirlby@lut.ac.uk (Rob Thirlby) writes:
>Does Novell version 4 support MIB-II????

Assuming you're asking if the SNMP agent shipping with NetWare v4.0 will
support MIB-II, the answer is yes.  In fact, any NetWare server running
a version 2.x SNMP NLM supports MIB-II.  This version of SNMP is already
shipping in a few different products, including that notorious carrier
of unexpected features, the MultiProtocol Router v2.0.

						don provan
						donp@novell.com
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:28:01 EST
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From:         FUAD@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU

  Hi Everyone:

  I am sending this message again because I don't know whether it made it
through or not. I got an error message back from one of the node on the
internet saying it cannot find or locate the Novell List server. Well, here
I go again......

      Gigatrend is having a special promotion on their 5GB 4mm DAT drive.  This
unit comes with their MasterSafe Software.  I was wondering what are the
plus and minuses on this product.  This is for a Novell Environment.

     The other tape backup that I am considering is the Emerald 4GB 4mm DAT
Drive.  It come with the Xpress Librarian software and the peer to peer
module.  Also, Pluses and minuses are welcomed.

Thanks in advance.....

Fuad@suffolk.edu
System's Analyst
Suffolk University
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:30:47 GMT
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From:         John Holman <rdac003@LHMC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gigatrend Backup device
              Jan 27, 93 3:45 pm

>
>       Gigatrend is having a special promotion on their 5GB 4mm DAT drive.  Thi
 his
> unit comes with their MasterSafe Software.  I was wondering what are the
> plus and minuses on this product.  This is for a Novell Environment.
>
>      The other tape backup that I am considering is the Emerald 4GB 4mm DAT
> Drive.  It come with the Xpress Librarian software and the peer to peer
> module.  Also, Pluses and minuses are welcomed.
>
> Thanks in advance.....
>
> Fuad@suffolk.edu
> System's Analyst
> Suffolk University
>

I'd be very grateful if you would send me a copy of any replies to this
question.

Thank you very much.

John Holman, London Hospital Medical College, UK.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:40:38 EST
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From:         DANC@LIBRARY.NRL.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Library
Subject:      HellSoft FTP Daemon NLM

Does anyone know an alternate FTP site for HellSoft's FTP NLM daemon?  I
cannot get through to novell.felk.cvut.cs.  Please respond to me directly
and I will summarize sites for the list.  Thanks in advance.

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Daniel C. Curtiss, Kestrel Associates, Inc.
NRL Research Library Network Manager
danc@library.nrl.navy.mil  (Internet)
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:10:00 PST
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From:         Michael_Kessler.Hum@MAILGATE.SFSU.EDU
Subject:      RE: ImageWriter II

PC-Write 3.04 and Standard Level have print drivers for the Apple Imagewriter
and the Imagewriter II.

Michael_Kessler@HUM.SFSU.EDU

---------------------- Replied Message Body ----------------------

I don't know of any Windows drivers for Apple Imagewriters; indeed I don't
know of any PC program which includes support for these which is curious since
there's no reason why a PC couldn't use one connected serially or over a
 network... I am open to correction if anyone knows better.

Getting one Appletalk queue to spool to several Apple printers is a curious
business as Apple do not support or approve of such a feature. You will need
the Mac NLM ver 3.01 or later. You need lines in you atps.cfg for each printer
servicing the queue but with the Appletalk spooler turned off for all those
after the first one.

So, here's an example:

IM1:zone1 -o IMqueue -f apple
IM2:zone1 -o IMqueue -wf
IM2:zone1 -o IMqueue -wf

The significant switches are -f and -wf: the first printer, IM1, creates the
real Appletalk spooler; the next two printers are assigned to the same queue
(IMqueue) but the -wf switch tells atps *not* to create spoolers for them
but to use the first printer's spooler for all three. The -f switch in the
 firstline is intended to help manage fonts for all three printers and is
 recommended.
All this is only necesary if you are using atps to maintain and service these
queues: if you use pserver to do so then the -wb switch on the relevant line
queues: if you use pserver to do so then the -wb switch on the relevant line
tells Appletalk to advertise this queue but not to service it.

Trust this is clear.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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From:         KEVIN@CSC.CIT.AC.NZ
Organization: C.I.T.,  New Zealand
Subject:      Re: Calling programs from login script

> We are having a problem with our system login script.  We have a couple of
> packages that we want all our users to use.  We would like to have them
> called from the system login script so that each time a user logs in, the
> programs are executed.  However, when we do this, it seems as if Netware is
> loading a command processor in memory and not letting go of it, even though
> we are using the #XXXX.EXE command and using EXIT at the end of the login
> script.  DOS reports that 494K are free, but only 290K largest executable
You shouldn't call any program from the login script that goes resident,
or that requires a heap of memory when running.  The LOGIN.EXE program
stays resident in memory and just spawns the program (hence the lack of
memory available).

I have found the best way is to use the EXIT command to a common batch
file which runs these programs.  You can use DOS variables which are set
by the LOGIN script to control how the batch files operates.

Kevin

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:57:00 CST
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From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A: Command.com not found ** HELP

DATE SENT:  25-JAN-1993 10:55:48
>> We have a Novell 3.11 Network running DOS 5.  The nodes boot from the
>> file server and have no drives in them at all.
>>
>> The problem is that the nodes will radomly get a request for command.com
>> to be inserted into drive a:  which doesnt exist.  :-(
>>
>> We have COMSPEC installed to redirect the command.com search to the Y:
>> directory of the Network, the same place the nodes find DOS 5..
>> But the problem still exists.
>>

I've found it handy to set up a small (32 or 64K) RAMDISK on the diskless
workstations, and copy command.com, and a batch file to start the menu
to that ram disk.  set comspec to point to the ramdisk.  That way, even
if the user logs out, there still is a command.com

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:54:00 CST
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From:         Netman@PHYSLOG-PO.PHYSLOG.UIOWA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Peer access on Novell

I would like some comments about some of the products that could do this
such as Map Assist from Fresh or Novell Lite in conjunction with regular
Novell.  Keep in mind that these are not small files.

     Yo!

     My experience with Map Assist has been largely good.  I
     really like the product, my users hardly know it's there,
     and it does a whiz bang job of transferring files and
     running executables...

     except behind Windows.

     In my situation (Novell 3.11, ODI, 486 server and 386
     workstations) Map Assist is miserably slow when the machine
     one is mapped to is running Windows.  The actual effect for
     me is like going from accessing a quick floppy drive to
     downloading over a 1200 baud modem.

     When I need to do some serious disk sharing, I ask the other
     user to stay in DOS while I fire up Windows and do my work.

     My $.02.

     -- Cliff

     Cliff-Missen@UIOWA.EDU
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Reply-To:     jford@seebeck.ua.edu
From:         James Ford <JFORD@SEEBECK.UA.EDU>
Organization: Seebeck Computer Center
Subject:      Cobol problem with NW v3.11

A user at our site has upgraded from v2.0a to v3.11 with no problem except
with one package.  This package is written in Cobol, but users keep getting
a cobol error of "dos file not found" (this is a multi-user program).

    1.  All users of the program have all rights to the directory.
    2.  All files in the directory have been flagged sharable

This worked under NW v2.0a and DOS v3.1, but not with NW v3.11 and Dos v5.0
Anyone have any suggestions?

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             jford@seebeck.ua.edu, jford@risc.ua.edu
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:38:10 EST
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From:         Dan Quigley <71005.42@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Network Fault Tolerance

Hello Novellians:

I need to provide redundancy to our NYC Token Ring Environment.  We
have 2 3.11 servers running Flex/IP.  We can provide redundancy to
the Token Rings via bridges that will provide alternate path at the
Data Link layer.  IPX and IP are what we are worried about.  If one
segment goes down I believe IPX will find the alternate path, but
I don't know how to tell IP how to handle it.  Anyone trying to do
this?  Here is our current environment:



               -----------------------------
  ------------ |    User Token Ring        |
  |            |                           |
  |            -----------------------------
_______        __|___                   __|____
|ROUTER|      |BRIDGE|                 |BRIDGE|
-------        ------                   -------
  |              |                        |
  |            ----------------------------
  |            |    Server Primary Ring    |
  |            |                           |
  |            -----------------------------
  |              |                    |
  |            ________           _________
  |            |SERVER1|          |SERVER2|
  |            ---------          ---------
  |              |                    |
  |            ----------------------------
  |------------|    Server Secondary Ring  |
               |                           |
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:34:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.com>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.COM>
Organization: PC-OHIO BBS - Cleveland, OH - 216-381-3320
Subject:      macs and novell

MN>This inquiry is directed towards everyone with experience
MN>using Netware for the Macs.

MN>We are planning to build a 10base2 network with 4 or 5
MN>Mac IIx's 40mb hd/8mb ram/sys7.0 and 25 386's to a 486
MN>file server with a 340mb hd.

MN>The grandiose question of the hour is whether or not it is
MN>feasible to store this Mac software set (Autocad, Adobe
MN>Illustrator, Quark Express, PageMaker, MsWord,
MN>WordPerfect, PhotoShop, FreeHand) on the NetWare server
MN>hard disk and to run these apps from the server hard
MN>disk, thus AVOID HAVING TO BUY BIGGER MAC HARD DRIVES FOR
MN>THE MACS?

  That's the way to use a network, put the apps on the network drive.
  I chuckle at this one standard question from every Mac user I've ever
talked to concerning a Novell network and ethernet.  I guess they are so
shy of the poor performance from AppleShare networks and LocalTalk, the
question has to be asked.
  V3.11 with Mac software is light years ahead of an Appleshare network
using a Mac as a file server.  You gain performance and reliability.

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