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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: The Hacker Files
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:26:02 GMT
Keywords: DC, Hacker FIles

In article <tbs.715367511@login.dkuug.dk>, tbs@login.dkuug.dk (Torben B. S|rensen) writes:
> The Hacker Files by Lewis Shiner seems to be the first comic book devoted
> solely to hacking and computers. Does anybody know if there has been any 
> reaction from the "hacker society" (programmers, companies, others).

Companies react to a comic book?  Not in this country...

As a hacker-turned-sarariman, I must say I liked it.  They still have to work
on their tech, but the attitude's there.  Too bad the plot is crystal clear
(c'mon, don't tell me you don't know who the mysterious virus-writer is
going to be...)

-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Valiant sucks
Date: 29 Aug 92 04:50:43 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <BtM6qA.2u0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly) writes:
>They did five covers to the same comic. That means those of us who just like
>the stories and art don't have to buy all five covers, 'cause we don't give
>a flying **** about collecting comics for resale. With five different comics
>to buy to get the whole story, DC has actually managed to go one up on the
>Masters of Cheesy Advertising and Marketing Schemes aka Marvel Comics.

...and if they had released these six stories as the first six issues of
the book instead of as six number ones, that would have been any different?!
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
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From: driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D)
Subject: Re: Batman cartoon info
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:25:13 MDT
Organization: Grad Student From Hell (in 3D)

In article <rdippold.715026520@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>>>"Downtown" Julie Brown   Zatanna
>
>>Huh???  While I don't mind the inclusion of other non-Batman related
>
>>Even if its a typo and its the other Julie Brown it still doesn't fit!
>
>"Oh my gawwwd, this whole Joker business is just rilly, rilly, warped,
>you know?"

Wrong Julie Brown... Julie Brown the comedian is the redhead you're thinking
of, "Downtown" Julie Brown is an MTV VeeJay (black lady, used to be a dancer,
VERY different than the comedian).

Hank.
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Game Dedicated to Neil Gaiman
Date: 4 Sep 92 02:15:58 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

I just bought the role-palying game Werewolf: The Apocalypse from White
Wolf Games. No, this isn't a misplaced rec.games.frp post; don't hit
kill. The reason that I mention it is the following dedication:

This book is dedicated to Neil Gaiman author of the Sandman series of 
graphic fiction, for awakening in me as well as many others a newfound regard
for the golden twilight of thoughts that exist between dream and habit.

"We could change things back. If we believed. If we dreamed. We are the
dreams of the carrion kind, they say, and perhaps it is so. But if enough
of us dream...if a bare thousand of us dream...we can change the world.  
We can dream it anew!"

	-From A Dream of a Thousand Cats

The quote was chosen as it fits the theme of the game, werewolves
as protectors of Mother Earth from mankind's depridations.

I know Tori (sp?) Amos dedicated a song to Gaiman; anyone know 
of any other dedications to the man who actually deserves the amount
of money Rob Liefeld earns?
-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital,
with an incredible number of bits.
Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
E-Mail acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil
From: berninge@iron.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Crisis on Infinite Earth!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:15:13 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug27.061211.549@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins598w@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Roger Tall) writes:
>This may seem extreme but here goes!
>I have heard so much about the "Crisis On Infinite Earth" series but 
>have had no chance to ever read it!!  It is now too expensive to purchase
>so I have a favour to ask anyone out there.
>
>Could somebody please put up a history of the "Crisis" series and if 
>possible...

1) DC is (finally) publishing CRISIS as a trade paperback next year.

2) Someone (Independent Comics Group?) published "The Official
Crisis on Infinite Index" and "...Crisis Crossover Index" several
years back, and should be available for about $2 each.

The indeces are rather well written and quite complete, sort of like
a "Cliff's Notes" for comics...

Jim Berninger                   ______ "This is no 'Whoops!'  This is
B0 w- c- g k s- e r- p          \    /  an 'Aaaaaaaauuuuuggggghhhh!'"
berninge@cn.ecn.purdue.edu       \  /   - Harvey ("Arnold") Fierstein
Green Lantern Fan, Extraordinaire \/      "Torch Song Trilogy"
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Tuesday, 25 Aug 1992 16:44:16 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Cages
 <1992Aug21.195935.20991@news2.cis.umn.edu> <BtD2p3.Ht9@matilda.vut.edu.au>

>lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>
>>Cages is one of those strange books that I really enjoy, but am reluctant
>>to recommend. Its just not for everyone. The last issue was little more
>>than a couple spending an evening together at a bar. Now I like the way
>>the time just "flew by" and the way McKean drew it. However I don't
>>think everyone is ready to pay Tundra prices for the experience.

You know, my girlfriend and I had a mild argument about this issue, in
particular I said I liked the exact same thing, the vivid way that the
passage of time was presented, the perfect way to depict a whirlwind
evening out.  My girlfriend was just angry that the book could be read
in 5 minutes, and she didn't like it.  Oh well.
From: leichter@cs.widener.edu (Seth Leichter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Fanboys Take Over Elementals! ACK!
Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:34:28 -0400
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ashley.cs.widener.edu

In article <1992Aug27.030917.5660@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

[a heart-breaking description of Comico editorial trends]

>     Dave Van Domelen, hoping a new editorial staff takes over Elementals 
>before too much harm is done...the writers can only hold out so long...

They already gave up.  This is not a decision from the editor, but the
publisher.  The writers have long since fled -- what we are seeing now
is the backlog.  I expect the quality of the writing to drop even
faster over the next few issues.  It's a shame really.  Elementals
used to great, but I have a feeling that it will become more
x-men-like under the new management.  The xmen with sex most likely.
Bleargh.

-- 
leichter@cs.widener.edu  /  Seth leichter  / Widener Univ. / Chester, PA
   "What is it the Norsemen say...?  `Fodder, Flax, Fire and Frigg.'
   Something to eat... Something to wear... Somewhere to keep warm...
         ...and Someone to love."  --  Slaine, the Horned God.
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From: jcomeau@unixg.ubc.ca (Joe Comeau)
Subject: Re: Superman to Die?
Organization: UBC Pulmonary Research Lab., St. Paul's Hospital, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:06:33 GMT

In article <4SEP199209181317@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS) writes:
>I have been away from the comic scene for quite some time now (ok 10 years)
>
>
>Today I read in my local paper (Cleveland Plain Dealer) that Superman will 
>die in November.  What's the story?  
>
>Any info will be great.  
>
>Bruce Manners
>

  Superman will die in issue #75.  The previous 5 issues will be counting
down to his death.  with 6 panels per page in the first book, 5 in the second
down to 1 panel/page in #75.  There was rumored, talk of cancellation of Superman
titles( I personally don't believe this).  The storylinr after this is that
Supergirl attempts to take over(hmm.... I thought she died.....) but doesn't
do to well of a job.  Lex Luthor is behind her and suggests forming a 
superhero team called the Lex-Men.  According to an interview I read
John Byrne dared Dan Jurgans/Roger Stern to put Lex into a wheel chair....

Anyway, it should be an interesting story.  Roger Stern is a descent ehough
writer, at least on the Superman titles.

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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: Sandman 41: Annotation suggestion
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:42:11 GMT

In article <lsmith.715223031@mega> lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>In <1992Aug31.004225.8800@uwm.edu> grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Big Squeegee) writes:
>>You fool.  It's the old Jedi mind trick.  If it's gotta be a tribute to 
>>anyone, I'd say George Lucas.
>
>It probably goes back further. However, the Star Wars example was the first
>one that I thought of too.

Um, the Shadow had the ability to cloud men's minds.  Did he ever use it in a
similar capacity?
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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: The Calvin/Sandman Connection
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:16:26 GMT

For those who haven't seen today's (August 26) Calvin & hobbes, Calvin
has taken a new nom de crayon--"Doctor Destiny"  Images of Calvin in
the Diner or playing around with dreams scare me more than the
Sandman/Cherry crossover mentioned in Images of Omaha 2.

-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<---------------
"I want to be Robin to Bush's Batman."  Dan Quayle
Quick!  Notify DC.  I think it's time for another 900 number poll.
"We are enjoying a sluggish economy & not enjoying it very much."  --Bush
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: DC is now #3
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:48:36 GMT

visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
> In <1992Aug30.031320.17157@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
> 
> 	While on the subject of market share, there is more than one way
> to calculate what "market share" really is.  Raw issues sold per month
> is one, total revinue on the books sold, percent of theoretical shelf
> space taken by the companies books.
> 

I took my percentages from the last issue of the Comics Journal, which
came out after the publication of Spawn and Youngblood.  I don't know
exactly how the percentages were calculated.


> 
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From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Subject: Re: Shooter LEFT?!? A Question...
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:14:03 GMT

In article <BtoMwE.CIq@ais.org> saab@ais.org (Micheal Marks) writes:
>Yeah, and #1 is already 10 bucks!  Boy, you slap that Shooter name
>on something and BANG!  They were supposed to do some of those
>lame 60's Gold Key characters like Magnus Robot Fighter and Turok
>and Dr. Solar in the near future.  Like anybody cares.

Speak for yourself.  Turok comics are some of my favorites.  No soap opera,
no angst, no posturing.  Just good old fashioned escapism, action and fun.  
Xenozoic Tales owes more than a tip of the hat to Turok.

I'm still waiting for the 2 volume Turok reprints Valiant promised.  They're
several months overdue now and I fear they won't be released.

-- 
=     Andrew Krieg	| 						=
= krieg@titan.med.ge.com|  Treguna   Mekoides   Trecorum   Satis   Dee	=
=	   or		|						=
= krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| 				    - Astoroth	=
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC is now #3
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:49:41 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
> 
> I have heard that Malibu comics now has the second largest comic market share,
> passing DC.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?
> 
> Charles GIbbs

Not true.  Malibu now has roughly a 10% market share, versus DC's 25%.
Marvel, sadly, has a 47% market share, and Dark Horse only 5% share.
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From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Good Week Reviews, 8/30/92: Cerebus 161: Mothers & Daughters 11
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:24:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na

heifetz!lokkur.dexter.mi.us!scs@uunet.UU.NET (Steve Simmons) writes:


>Apparently all three aardvarks have been revealed.  But does Po, who
>is apparently not corporate, count?

that was answered *last* month - Po lives in lower Iest and has a
simple place with a small chessboard.  Issue 160.
"At this moment, I live in a one room apartment in Iest's Lower City."

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com
They who give have all things; they who withhold have nothing.  
                      -- Hindu proverb
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From: tsm@access.digex.com (The Secret Man)
Subject: Re: Sandman #42
Summary: posing
Organization: The Quiet Room
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:41:24 GMT

cerebus@engin.umich.edu (Joe Gorde) writes:
>dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>>Mervyn's right.  When the rain falls on the one who controls the
>>local weather, that's posturing, not pathos.
>
>I've been saying this about Sandman since the beginning of "Season of Mists";
>Morpheus is nothing but a big poser.  Kind of funny for one of Gaiman's
>own characters to articulate it, though.

Why?  After all, Gaiman is not in any way unaware of the image that his
characters project;  neither are characters around those characters going to
remain unaware of the image/actuality dichotomy, if they interact with them
on a regular basis.

The Martians might have called Dream a god, some humans might have thought
of him as a god, and certainly a sensible and well-informed being wouldn't
mistake Dream for something as limited as a god.  Nevertheless, if you "lived"
with him for decades, and then for centuries (and millenia in some cases) you
would eventually begin to feel familiar with him and his moods;  familiarity,
as common wisdom would have it, breeds contempt.  If not contempt, then at
least a certain insight into some of his weaknesses of character - such as his
need to feel dramatically depressed when his relationship "fails".

-- 
The Secret Man
tsm@digex.com
"...and in an extended Public Display of Dis-affection, a Hyattsville man
 shot and killed his entire football team today.  Film at eleven."
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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re:  ECLIPSO Annuals, Titles, etc.
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:04:36 GMT

Someone recently asked for a "checklist" of Eclipso titles...

These are the Eclipso titles I know of, close to readable order (I
don't have my collection here at work, so I may be wrong--
especially about the order of the four Supes titles, which I 
always mix up!):

     Eclipso:  The Darkness Within #1
     Superman The Man of Steel Annual
     Green Lantern Annual
     Detective Comics Annual
     Action Comics Annual
     Justice League America Annual
     Justice League Europe Annual
     Green Arrow Annual
     Flash Annual
     The Demon Annual
     Robin Annual
     Deathstroke the Terminator Annual
     Team Titans Annual
     L.E.G.I.O.N. Annual
     Superman Annual
     Hawkworld Annual
     Wonder Woman Annual
     Adventures of Superman Annual
     Batman Annual
     Eclipso:  The Darkness Within #2

I believe this is the entire list of Eclipso titles (I have all of these
except WW [because I hate WW], Batman [don't think it's out yet--
maybe today], and Eclipso #2 [not out yet]).

Some of these annuals are great, some plain suck IMHO.  I really liked
the four Supes titles (for continuity; 200+pp story, basically), 
Flash (funny), Demon (Etrigan slays me), Robin (I was surprised, trust me...), and L.E.G.I.O.N. (great art + LOBO eclipsed!!!).  

I'm a big GL fan, but HATED the GL annual (stupid, confusing story; 
throw in the fact that this annual references a fight between Hal
and John Stewart in MOSAIC #5 when #3 was the issue on the shelf!), and
REALLY disliked the Team Titans issue (crossover with WAY too many
"inside" references makes people like me who don't normally read the
title pissed off because I have no clue what they're talking about...
i.e., "Way back in issue #nn--Editor").

Anyway, hope that answers yer question (I would've emailed if I could
find your original message...)

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From: booga@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Steve Jankowski)
Subject: Re: The Hacker Files
Keywords: DC, Hacker FIles
Organization: IBM Personal Systems Programming, Palo Alto
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 04:01:00 GMT

In article <tbs.715367511@login.dkuug.dk>, tbs@login.dkuug.dk (Torben B. S|rensen) writes:
>The Hacker Files by Lewis Shiner seems to be the first comic book devoted
>solely to hacking and computers. Does anybody know if there has been any 
>reaction from the "hacker society" (programmers, companies, others).

I can't speak for a whole society, but after reading the first two issues,
I had to be embarrassed.  The art was bad, the plot was disjoint, and the
lead character seemed a bit stupid.  (note that it's been cut back to a
limited 12 issue run)

Lazarus Churchyard was a much better (if bloodier) comic exploring the
more far out realm of virtual reality and virtual life.  Would virtual
life want to live forever (as it presumably could)?  A worthwhile topic
and excellent execution; I recommend it to all.
This is a UK release, I got mine through Westfield, your milage may vary.

booga
-- 
Steve Jankowski - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - booga@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com - -
IBM, Personal Systems Programming                               Booga says,
"I just work here, they don't let me speak for them."   "Software's great!"
From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Test2--Ignore
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:04:17 GMT
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


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From: tankgirl@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Tank Girl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Krypton's moons?
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:50:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

In <1992Aug25.035957.6415@math.ucla.edu> sherman@glendon.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.032902.11654@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> berninge@iron.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone remember the names of Krypton's two moons?

>Slim and Wandsworth.  No, wait, that's something else...

and we'll be DAMNED if we tell you WHAT that something else is.

-tank girl
"though email guesses will be accepted"

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From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Subject: Sandman 41:  Annotation suggestion
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 05:35:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

  Hi.  I don't know if this is how you do things, but I have a point
that I think should be included in the annotation to Sandman #41 (Brief
Lives, chapter 1).  If this has already been pointed out, sorry.

  On page 9, Delirium tries to enter a B&D/Leather "Scene" party, and
the doorman says, "Private party.  Invitation only.  Strict dress code.  
Go find a warehouse bash, eh, kid?" 

  Delirium replies "Um, I've got an invitation.  And I'm dressed properly.
Aren't I?"

  This scene is a deliberate repetition of the scene in which John 
Constantine, while searching for a cure for his lung cancer, attempts
to enter the Cambridge Club (Oxford?  I know it's some English Public
School) in order to speak to the Archangel Gabriel.  The guard says
that only members or their guests can enter, and proper dress is required,
and John says something like "I'm a guest of (some name I forget) and
I'm wearing a dinner jacket and a bow tie, right?"  (Unfortunately, I 
can't immediately locate this issue of Hellblazer.)

  In both cases, the doorman has his mind clouded, and admits the
uninvited guest.

  If you like, I can go on searching out the issue of Hellblazer 
involved, but I think it's obviously a tribute from Gaiman
to Garth Ennis, who wrote that sequence in Hellblazer.

  I hope that this is useful.



-- 
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