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From: hiramc@sco.COM (Hiram Clawson)
Subject: Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:43:10 GMT



It is said that the rich grow richer, and the poor become poorer.
How true that was during the capitalist orgy of the 1980's.  Our
society will be paying for this transfer of wealth well into the
future.  The book by Kevin Phillips, "The Politics of Rich and Poor", 1990
has many fascinating charts and graphs detailing the amazing transfer
of wealth that occurred, not only in the U.S. during the 1980's,
but also in other "western" capitalistic states.  The most interesting
thing about Phillips' book is that he not a so-called "liberal"
whiner complaining about this transfer of wealth that occurred.
On the contrary, the tone of his book is one of a warning to the
ruling classes that in order to maintain the disparity, they must
be on the look out for the backlash that has historically occurred
following previous capitalistic orgies.  He contrasts and compares the
1980's with the guilded age of the late 1800's and the roaring twenties,
when similar transfers of wealth occurred with similar political
happenings.  However, the 1980's is a real topper, far eclipsing
the excesses of these previous periods.

You will note how the use of the statistic "All Families" average
income results in a positive sounding increase from 1977 to 1988.
However, when you break it down into income ranges, you find that
only the richest families actually increased their income, by so much
that when averaged in with all other families, the overall statistic
is still positive despite the fact that 8/10 of the income levels
actually declined.

--Hiram

 [*~   Hiram Clawson - Member, Technical Staff, The Santa Cruz Operation    ~*]
 [*~   P.O. Box 1900, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 - tel. 408-427-7519              ~*]
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Table from page 17, "The Politics of Rich and Poor" by Kevin Phillips, 1990

Source: "Challenge to Leadership", Urban Institute, data from
	the Congressional Budget Office

		Income Gains and Losses
			1977-88

Changes in Average Family Income
(1987)

		Average Family		Percentage	Change in Average
Income		Income			Change		Family Income
Decile		1977	    1988	1977-88		1977-88

First		$  4,113 $  3,504	-14.8 %		$   -609
Second		$  8,334 $  7,669	- 8.0 %		$   -665
Third		$ 13,140 $ 13,327	- 6.2 %		$   -813
Fourth		$ 18,436 $ 17,220	- 6.6 %		$ -1,216
Fifth		$ 23,896 $ 22,389	- 6.3 %		$ -1,507
Sixth		$ 29,824 $ 28,205	- 5.4 %		$ -1,619
Seventh		$ 36,405 $ 34,828	- 4.3 %		$ -1,577
Eight		$ 44,305 $ 43,507	- 1.8 %		$   -798
Ninth		$ 55,487 $ 56,064	+ 1.0 %		$   +577
Tenth		$102,722 $119,635	+16.5 %		$+16,913

Top 5 %		$134,543 $166,016	+23.4 %		$+31,473
Top 1 %		$270,053 $404,566	+49.8 %	       $+134,513

All Families	$ 33,527 $ 34,274	+ 2.2 %		$   +747

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: stanchen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Cheng)
Subject: Re: Peace Research Centre, Australian National University
Keywords: Australia, Australian National University, ANU, Peace Research Centre,PRC
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:56:07 GMT


-- 
| Stan Cheng			      | "Your life is the greatest show of all
| email: stanchen@leland.stanford.edu |    ....do not let anyone else direct."
| address:	P.O. Box 10135	      |			-the Minstrel from
| 		Stanford, CA 94309    | 			Groo
From: drm@esl.com (Don McGregor )
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Cuba nuke program
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:47:38 GMT
Reply-To: drm@esl.com
Followup-To: alt.activism.d


After spending over $1 billion, Cuba has halted work on a soviet-designed  
nuclear power plant at Cienfuegos due to a lack of hard currency to  
complete the project.

Continuing work on the project would have required paying Russian  
contractors over $200 million, money that Cuba does not have.  Suspending  
work on the plant means that Cuba must continue to import oil, further  
depleting their limited hard-currency reserve.  There are already daily  
electrical blackouts due to the limited ability of Cuba to pay for  
generating capacity.

Soviet reactors were notoriously accident-prone.

Cuba's exports bring in only $2.2 billion per year, compared to $8.1  
billion in 1989, when the Soviets were still subsidizing Cuban sugar  
exports by providing oil at unrealistic prices.  According to Castro, Cuba  
was able to harvest only 7 million tons of sugar this year, down from 7.6  
million last year.

There are also rumors of a split between reformers and hard-liners in the  
ruling party.  There have been recent dismissals of high-level officials,  
including Castro's son, who managed the Cuban nuclear program.
--
Don McGregor
drm@esl.com  
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.latin-america
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai)
Subject: Nicarauga Series
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:56:26 GMT


The series in progress aims to spread the documented evidence
surrounding U.S. policy towards Nicaragua and indeed the entire
region.

The pretended interest by some apologists for U.S. aggression in my
views on certain matters, especially, human rights abuses committed by
Sandinista soldiers, will not deter the progress of the series, nor
can it be taken as anything but pretense and "concern for human rights
only com[ing] into play when it is .. political[ly] advantag[eous]",
but they merit addressing both for "everyone else" following the
series and because of the deeper issues they help uncover.

Since I've recently written to an acquaintance regarding these
protestations and shows of pretended concern, that will serve as a
draft to be expanded upon which I will post shortly.

If there are any broader or related issues of concern I welcome email
at harelb@math.cornell.edu so that I may more fully address them,
since my reading of the UseNet has become limited to quite irregular
intervals due to co-moderation of misc.activism.progressive and other
projects.

Harel Barzilai
harelb@math.cornell.edu

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From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject: Who Were the "Contras" ? (V)
Organization: misc.activism.progressive on UseNet ; ACTIV-L@UMCVMB
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 09:55:04 GMT

Who Were the "Contras" ? (V)


"..The contras cross the border from their bases in Honduras to commit
acts of sabotage: burning cooperatives, blowing up bridges, killing
and kidnapping teachers, health workers, and farmers.

"The victims of contra terror include people like the Barreras, a
couple in their 60's who were well known and respected in the town of
Esteli'. Last year the Barreras volunteered to help pick coffee near
the boder because they felt this was part of their duty as
Christians.

"The couple was kidnapped by contras and taken to a town in Honduras.
There they were kept outside for four months and tortured daily as an
example --their torturers said-- of what would happen to Christians
who support the revolution. Later, other coffee pickers who managed to
escape brought back word that the Barreras were dead.

"By September, 1983, the contras had killed nearly 700 Nicaraguans and
had caused $600 million in damage to the economy..."

--Oxfam America report _Facts for Action_ -- "Nicaragua: Development
Under Fire" Sept. 1983


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From: mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Blue Rage)
Subject: Re: Lyndon LaRouche & the Liberty L
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:17:17 GMT

In article <189s6lINNnc9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
>
>Could anyone here who thinks LaROuche is fascist explain how that
>evaluation is consistent with his long-standing opposition to the
>death penalty? Seems a little odd for a "fascist", to say the least.
>-Steve

	Well, I have not got a formal background in ideological studies,
but I did spend time researching right wing politics at a newspaper I
worked at.  The most consistent definitions I have found for Fascism say
nothing of the death penalty.

	A fascist could easily conclude that the death penalty was wrong
for a number of reasons, including the difficulty it might create for
consolidating power and holding it in the face of political opposition
to a noticably murderous regime.
	
	Why do you think the death penalty is part and parcel of
fascism?  Am I missing something?

	-Mike


-- 
Michael Hall    mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
"If you're not revolting against work, you're working
against revolt." - Bob Black

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.save.the.earth
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)
Subject:                     ============================= 
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: daemon@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: misc.activism.progressive on UseNet ; ACTIV-L@UMCVMB
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:10:31 GMT

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From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: The Crimes of Nicaragua (II)
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:45:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.055032.4328@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:

  During the revolution the Sandinista movement has widespread participation  
  from all sectors of the population, inlcuding the middle classes and  
  smaller business enterprises.  After the revolution the Sandinista party  
  lurched Left and purged itself of more moderate elements.  The Sandinista  
  movement of 1978 and the Sandinista movement of circa 1984 were very  
  different creatures.

>I agree with this, but I don't think these points are in contention.  A lurch
>to the left that is supported by the majority is not a totalitarian
>situation.

We don't know how the majority felt about this. This all happened years
before there where any elections.

Let's compare the Sandinista and American revolutions:

1S: The Sandinistas took over and said there would be no elections for
    four years.

1A: In the US, each Colony had free and fair elections for representatives
    to the Contentenal Congress both during and after the war.

2S: The Sandinsitas dictated the Nicaraguan constitution themselves. A
    constitutional convention was promised but not allowed.

2A: In the US, the people of each colony elected their own constitutional 
    convention who wrote the constitution for each of the states. 

3S: The Sandinsitas spent the first few years setting rules making dissent
    illegal and jailing (or killing) peaceful opponnents.

3A: In the US, Loyalists where granted all the rights of revolutionaries.
    Their veiws where tollerated to such a degree that the revolution had
    been going on for a year before the Declaration of Independance.

4S: The Sandinistas used any excuse possible to delay elections.

4A: The Americans held elections for their constitutions and government
    DURING the Revolutionary War.

5S: Between the revolution and 84, the people where governed by the whim
    of the Sandinistas.

5A: After the Revolutionary War, US citizens where ruled by their own
    state constitutions and popularly elected governments. The national
    govenment ran under the Articles of confederation.


The actions of the Sandinistas cannot be regarded as the actions of
a group committed to democracy. Indeed, many of their public statements
indicated they regarded elections as 'window dressing' for world opinion.

If there is any doubt, just compare their actions with the US or any
country which recently transitioned to democracy.

  Allen
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.environment,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Fax bombs and hypocrisy
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:12:32 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.
Summary: Do as we say, not as we do

In article <9209060217.AA04738@poly.math.cornell.edu>, harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai) writes:
> [Via misc.activism.progressive from LaborNet's labor.toxics]
>  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Topic 93        Factory in Berkeley poisons labor 
> ecologycntr     Resources for labor re:toxics   10:13 am  Sep  4, 1992 
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> 	=====================================================
> 	 M A Q U I L A D O R A S ?   I N   B E R K E L E Y ?
> 	=====================================================
> 
> Berkeley firm gets rich while poisoning workers. You can help by 
> calling the company (510) 843-8910, and filling up their fax (510) 
> 843-5906. Tell them you'll buy no rubberstamps until you hear that 
> they've spent some of their profits on worker safety. 

	Hypocrite.

Brett                                                      
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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: MACHINE GUNS @ Q'BRIDGE
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 00:23:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Queensbridge Houses tenants have voted for the Fruit of Islam as a
>paid security force. The New York City Housing Authority was
>considering this until, the ADL of B'nai B'rith sent out letters of
>opposition to the New York City Housing Authority and to Jack Kemp,
>Secretary of the US Department of Housing and Urban Development...

Goodness me.  Imagine my astonishment.  When housing becomes 
government-owned, its operation becomes politicized.  Astounding.
Mind boggling.  It just hit me like a ton of bricks.  I can scarcely
even breathe, I am so totally shocked.

>HUD employees allege that Kemp is
>mismanaging the HUD budget.

Give the dude some slack.  It wasn't until recently that the Progressive
Movement, may its praises be sung to the high heavens, managed to
implement socialized housing on a massive scale.  

With more experience, say, 75 years, it will become as wonderful as
Russia is now.


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
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From: New Liberation News Service <nlns@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 09 Sep 92 13:00 PDT
Subject: Re: Lotus as a public charity
Nf-ID: #R:Bu8nJD.Avt@world.std.com:-1381549358:cdp:1296500346:000:279
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!nlns    Sep  9 13:00:00 1992


Hiya,

	[Meanwhile back on the original point of this topic. . .]
Please keep us posted on developments with this Lotus thing.
Considering their supposed "progressive" corporate outlook, this
does not jibe very well. Email us whenever. . .


Jason
NLNS
[Insert inane quote here]
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: "Lies Work"
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:38:47 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <dliebman.1b6e@terapin.com> dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.224700.15365@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp
>(Michael Friedman) writes:
>>In article <92243.163225SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> SML108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>Various brouhaha about who claims what deleted...

>>>Here's how I see it...

>>>Bush makes invalid claim about Clinton raising taxes 128 times...

>>>Clinton responds that by same criteria, Bush did it 327 times...

>>>Third party says real score is Clinton 59, Bush 78...

>>>Now here's the clincher.  The way I see it, Clinton was not lying because
>>>he had already stated the criteria was bogus and was merely showing that
>>>if you apply the same Bu1!$h|+ to Bush, he's even worse...

>>Excuse me, but don't you think 327 vs. 78 is significant?  I just love
>>the way the Clinton weenies bend over backwards to pretend that their
>>idol always tells the truth.

>if i say this: 'i am about to lie: you have a firm grasp of elementary
>logic' -- do you take it to mean that i am asserting that you have a firm
>grasp of elementary logic?

So let me get this straight.  Are you claiming that Clinton admitted
he was lying when he claimed that by Bush's criteria Bush had raised
taxes 327 times?  Because that sure didn't get into the media.

Can you tell me any other instances where Clinton has admitted lying?
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,soc.rights.human,news.groups,alt.native
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: indigenous peoples articles posted to alt.native
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:04:04 GMT

I have just posted a series of articles to the alt.native newsgroup
which deal with issues pertaining to indigenous (native) peoples of
all parts of the world, whose cultures and very lives are jeopardized
by the policies and practices of the industrialized ("developed")
nations.  The articles posted derive from the "NATIVE-L" mailing list
which I have been operating and facilitating as part of the NativeNet
project for the past three years, and which can be joined by sending a:

	subscribe NATIVE-L Your Name

message to "LISTSERV@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU"

(Send a message to me for a complete list of NativeNet mailing lists).

I am hoping to muster sufficient support to create a new mainstream
newsgroup, probably to be called "soc.native" or "soc.culture.native" -
subject to the dialogue which follows a formal "Call for Discussion."

I suggest that anyone interested in matters of the survival and well-
being of indigenous peoples and their cultures look at these articles
now in alt.native for a sampling of the kinds of materials carried on
the NATIVE-L mailing list, and that you take part in the upcoming
discussion concerning the creation of a new mainstream newsgroup to
carry this material.

Thanks.

Gary  (NativeNet facilitator)
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: NOTES FROM THE "NEW" SOUTH AFRICA
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:20:01 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1296500350@igc.apc.org> nlns@igc.apc.org (New Liberation News Service) writes:

>NOTES FROM THE "NEW" SOUTH AFRICA
>Tim Hinton, The Thistle

>The
>black, green and gold of the ANC flag waves boisterously,
>defiantly in the wind.  [...]  Today is
>the national day of protest against the massacre at Boipatong
>township.  The people of South Africa--Azania to some--are again
>on the march.

All the people or just the Xhosa?  Any Zulus there?

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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: The Crimes of Nicaragua (II)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:13:20 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep10.193334.16064@iti.org>

In article <1992Sep10.144843.10889@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) wr
ites:

>>The actions of the Sandinistas cannot be regarded as the actions of
>>a group committed to democracy. Indeed, many of their public statements
>>indicated they regarded elections as 'window dressing' for world opinion.

>I have never said the Sandinista revolution was a perfect 

Make an omelet, break an egg.


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
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