From: senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Hakan)
Subject: Re: an interesting poll about the feelings in Turkey
Originator: senel@irlsp
Organization: Takanumi University of Technology, Tokyo, Japan
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:38:07 GMT


Quoting Micheal:

-> > Do you consider yourself
-> > Asian - 58%
-> > European - 34%
-> > Both - 5%
-> > Neither - 1%
-> >
-> > Should Turkey persist on joining EEC
-> > Yes - 82%
-> > No  - 33%

>  As for the 98%, you know very well what the term "Rounding" means, si
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> don't pretend to be stupid. All polls are rounded, and the results may
> not add up to 100.
>
>  As for the 115%, the correct numbers were 62/33 (not 82/33). I
> apologize for the typo. I went over all the other figures, and they are
> all correct, except for the one mentioned.

  Well, I know very well what the term "Rounding" means, but it seems
that you don't know what the term "correctly copying" is. Okey let's cut
this discussion even if there are some missing details about the 
rounded numbers. 

  Anyway, you have succeeded going below the 100% line. But now you are
at 95% and 5% is still missing. Keep going, keep going, nothing can last 
Micheal   :-))

>  As for your claim that my numbers are fictitious, I gave you the name
> of the Turkish Newspaper that originated the figures. You can look it up
> for yourself and tell us what the correct figures are. Tell me, do you
> suggest that these figures were NOT published in TURKIYE?

   Well, I don't wanna talk about the credibility of newspaper Turkiye.
I will post an article published 4 months ago in Turkiye. Since I
assume that somebody around you knows Turkish very well at least
enough for translating polls, I will not translate to English. Read that
news or have it translated, you will understand what I mean. 

I still wanna know why u posted that poll on soc.culture.jewish but not
on soc.culture.pakistan. Your intention was obvious and all of us
understood what you wanted to say after KELLY's articles about JEWS and
GREEKS. (This was a small demonstration of Byzantine trick :-) ). 

  Soooooo, please double-check the numbers before posting your articles.
         Somebody can find your mistakes. As we say in Turkish 
                        "Devir kotu kolla dotu"

> Michael.

The following is an article which argues the necessity of beauty contests
in our society and then establishes somwhow a contact between christianity and
those contests. :-) I won't translate it because it is long and boring.
(I am just forwarding)

Hakan

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>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Asagidaki  yazi 3.Nisan.1992 tarihli Turkiye Gazetesinde alinmis
>Prof.Dr. Ayhan Songar' in yazisidir. Bilgilerinize sunuyorum.
>Z.Arvasi
>*****************************************************************
> 
>                              DEHSET
> 
>    Lutfi Ikiz kardesimiz bana Konyadan bir takvim-imsakiye gondermis.
>Her gune bir sayfa ayrilan imsakiyede dunyanin cesitli ulkelerindeki
>namaz vakitleri verilmekte, ayrica ufak ufak makaleler  de yer almis
>bulunmakta. Sayfalari cevirirken birden bire karsima cikan biryazida
>beni dehsete dusurdu, sevgili okuyucularim. Yazida 1932 yilinda dunya
>guzellik yarismasindan soz ediyordu. Ben ufak bir cocuk tum ama bugun
>gibi hatirlarim, adayimiz evvala "CUMHURIYET GAZETESI" tarafindan ter-
>tiblenen musabakada belirlenmis ve KERIMAN HALIS hanim, Turk guzeli
>olarak katildigi DUNYA GUZELI secilmisti. Cesitli ulkelerden gelmis
>guzeler juri heyetinin onunde mayolariyla arzi endem ettik ten sonra
>juri baskaninin yaptigi konusma aynen soyle, ibretle ve dehsetle okuyun.
> 
>   SAYIN JURI UYELERI, BUGUN AVRUPANIN HIRISTIYANLIGIN ZAFERINI KUTLU-
>YORUZ. 1400 DIR HAKIMIYETINI SURDUREN ISLAMIYET ARTIK BITMISTIR. ELBETTE
>AMERIKANIN VE RUSYANIN HAKKINI INKAR EDEMEYIZ. NETICEDE BU HIRISTIYAN-
>LIGIN ZAFERIDIR. BIR ZAMANLAR SOKAGI BILE KAFES ARKASINDAN SEYREDEBILEN
>MUSLUMAN KADINLARIN TEMSILCISI TURK GUZELI KERIMAN MAYO ILE ARAMIZDADIR.
>BU KIZI ZAFERIMIZIN TAJI KABUL EDECEGIZ, ONU KRALICE SECECEGIZ. ONDAN
>DAHA GUZELI VARMIS, YOKMUS, BU ONEMLI DEGIL. BU SENE GUZELLIK KRALICESI
> SECMIYORIUZ. BU SENE HIRISTIYANLIGIN ZAFERINI KUTLUYORUZ. AVRUPANIN ZAFERINI
>KUTLUYORUZ. BIR ZAMANLAR FRANSA DA OYNANAN DANSA MUDAHALE EDEN K. SULTAN
>SULEYMANIN TORUNU ISTE MAYO VE SUDUYEN ILE ONUMUZDEDIR. KENDINI BIZLERE
>BEYENDIRMEK ISTEMEK TEDIR. BIZ DE BIZE UYAN BU KIZI BEYENDIK. MUSLUMAN
>LARINI GELECEGI BOYLE OLMASO TEMENNISIYLE, TURK GUZELINI DUNYA GUZELI
>OLARAK SECIYORUZ. FAKAT KADEHLEMIZI AVRUPANIN ZAFERI ICIN KALDIRACAGIZ.
> 
>  ................
>...................
>.....................Bari tarihten ibret alin beyler... Ve, ne olur, kizlar
>inizin kollarini tutun, kendilerini anlatinki, " Karpuz guzeli, Domates
>guzeli, bilmemne guzeli" secilmek oyle pekte ovulenecek seyler degildir.
>Ne zaman uyanacagiz, ne vakit aklimiz basimiza gelecek, bilmemki?..
> 
>Prof. Dr. Ayhan Songar
> 
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