From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Kaufman demonstrates stupidity, so does Marwan
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:46:46 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

Marwan, why don't you shut up if all you can do is call people stupid. Your
article is a worthless piece of s**t.

In article <Jan.2.22.21.17.1993.6409@bach.rutgers.edu> Marwan Gharaybeh writes:

[MG] Terrorism is defined as the actions against innocent civilians. The israeli
[MG] policeman is not an innocent civilian and is a part of the military. So
[MG] the action of Hamas does not fit within the definition of terrorism.

The police force and the army are two distinct forces. Like in any other
civilized country. I guess for you Israel is not as civilized as its 
wonderful democratic neighbors.

[MG] Notice that the Israeli police do fall within the terrorist circle since
[MG] they kill unarmed civilian boys/girls who did not even pass 10 years of
[MG] age.

It is not the job of Israeli police to kill 10 year old children. If the
parents of these "poor" kids would send them to school and keep an eye on
them instead of letting them throw stones and whatever they would still be
alive. American police use the same type of force to stop civil unrest!
The Palestinian parents are responsible for their children's acts. If they
prefer to have martyrs rather than children that is their choice.

[MG] Thowing stones at the hated oppressor is not a crime and civilian uprising
[MG] has allways been something to respect. Numerous examples could be extraced
[MG] from the near history such as the Tiniamin square incident is china and the
[MG] uprizing against communism in the former soviet union.
Fine ...  but whether the stone thrower is Jewish, Arab, Black etc ... if 
they endanger the lives of others they should take responsibility for their 
actions.

[MG] He is not a man ... He is a Israeli policeman ... A guy who's job is to
Is this jle logic? 

[MG] hunt down 10 year olds in the street. Second, this organization kidnapped
Why do you repeat yourself. 

[MG] this criminal and asked to exchange him with one of its leaders who
[MG] was KIDNAPPED by the Israeli police.
I    Ahmed Yassin was arrested not kidnapped.
II   Ahmed Yassin is the founder of Hamas which prones the destruction of 
     Israel and the Jews.
III  Yassin was given a fair trial, and is kept in an Israeli prison where he 
     is treated better than most prisoners. When Israeli soldiers were returned
     from captivity in Arab countries, most of them were better off dead.
     Israel returned healthy men for almost corpses.
IV   Toledano z"l was murdered by the blood thirsty Hamas and was never given 
     a chance. He was dead the moment Hamas kidnapped him. Hamas never intended
     to exchange him for Yassin.

[MG] I know that jews are human beings, some are intelligent and some are
[MG] stupid like you ....
The same applies to Arabs and anyone else.

[MG] Why don't you say this for the Israelis ... remember that the person they
[MG] were trying to exchange him for was also kidnapped, blinded ... etc.
							^^^^^^^^ I guess you
							mean blind folded.
[MG] Officer (or seargent) Teledano ... Stupid ...
Yassin is alive and well, Toledano z"l is dead. 

[MG] --Marwan 

Tsiel
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