HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: EDIT's "FIND"/"REPLACE" ignores backslash!!! Why??
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:00:29 GMT

and can it be changed?


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Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
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From: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu (Greg Foliente)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pendulum in NS2.1 wanted
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:29:21 GMT
Reply-To: greg@brooks.async.vt.edu OR pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu

After I upgraded my machine to NS3.0, I found out that Pendulum was no  
longer in NextDeveloper/Demos. I wanted to get a copy of this demo app  
(source too, if possible, or should I ask NeXT for this?).

If you still run 2.1 and have Pendulum, please e-mail it to me. I would  
appreciate it.

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Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA                 pol2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
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From: gerard@clip.inria.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgraser infinite loop
Keywords: Newsgraser
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:13:36 GMT

I have installed NewsGraser 72.2 on a NeXTDimension with NS3.0 and after  
few manipulations NewsGraser make an infinite loop.

Who help me ???
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: login window won't appear
Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:37:10 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu
Keywords: help,login,loginwindow


(Email to jcd@punch.aero.org bounced, so I'm posting.)

>> the system goes through all the system test but does'nt give me a  
>> login panel?

Well, I know what I did to get that to happen.  I added some options
to loginwindow in the /etc/ttys file to set PowerOffDisabled True,
precisely as recommended in the NeXT documentation.  It turns out
that there is a line length limit in that file, which I exceeded, and
loginwindow simply failed to run.  I removed the option (in single
user mode), and it worked.

I put the option in root's defaults instead, and that works far
better.

Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Scene for 3.0 (Re: Adobe and .eps file ending)
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:12:27 GMT

Tom Marchioro writes
| has anyone fixed Scene (as someone was kind enough to do for Icon) so it
| works under 3.0?

Follow the instructions for Icon.app - the method works for Scene as well, and  
since you already have the files in /2.1/shlib, the procedure is even shorter.
-- 
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NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chess.app
Date: 29 Dec 92 05:26:54 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Dec29.014417.21447@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes:
 
> Does anyone know where I can get the source to the Chess.app for release 3.0?

Its on the latest Educational CD ROM from NeXT, along with gcc sources and lots more.
Its well worth the $25 charge, even if you have nothing to do with Higher Ed.
call 1-800-Try-NeXT

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From: kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel)
Subject: Re: transfers with tip
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 16:42:01 GMT

Ok, i want to post my experiences with tip (I am actually using thant @&^#$ thing for writing this
lines).
the UNIX put and get commands work ONLY with UNIX systems, and only with 7bit datas, please refer to
the "Network and System Administration" Manual, that was supplied with your NeXT, you will find the
manual pages properly formatet at the end.
To make the thing worse, you have to be sure to use a "proper" shell, this means, a shell, that
handles the escape-characters, like ^A properly, tcsh DOESN'T.
Furthermore, you will have problems, with your Modem or Computer sending somewhat faster than the
remote host, and you won't get all bytes in some casees (mostly while PUTting)!!!
So, use Z-modem, kermit or something similar for binaries, it's safer!
Sources known to me are: 
	- tip3: A tip-clone written in very clean ObjC
	- pcomm: A ProComm clone with Vt100-Windows User-Interface
	- zmodem: A hell lot of good/bad usable & unusable sources
		(Speaking here in conjunction with tip!)

- daniel
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Looking for Floor Plan Drawing software
Organization: Cleveland State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:40:53 GMT

Hello.  I am interested in finding any software that exists for use with
NeXTStep (3.0) that is either floor-plan drawing software or CAD software,
which performs the floor-plan drawing tasks.  I would prefer
non-commercial, if any, but we are also interested in commercial software
variants, if any.

Appreciate any responses.  Please feel free to email me at:
cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu.

Thanks,
Cowboy

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From: davor@griffin.cuc.ab.ca (Davor Barcan)
Subject: Re: How do you download using  (XYZ)MODEM protocol?
Reply-To: davor@griffin.cuc.ab.ca
Organization: Griffin Software Development
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:24:47 GMT

In article <C00nHK.3wv@sounds.wa.com> BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)  
writes:
> Robert Lutwak writes
> | I compiled the zmodem package from sonata, but I can't figure
> | out how to combine these command-line utilities with kermit.
> | Should I be using tip?  How?

I prefer Kermit to tip anyday, but I was a little miffed that I had no way of  
using Xmodem, Ymodem, and Zmodem from within Kermit.  Well, no more worries.   
I put together a few Kermit macros which let me use all of the above transfer  
protocols from within Kermit.

Just add the following lines to your '.kermrc' file in your home directory.   
You need the Zmodem package from Sonata.  Now, whenever I need to upload using  
Zmodem, I do the following:

	1) Exit into Kermit command mode (usually CTRL-] c)
	2) 'cd' to the directory of the file(s)
	3) Type 'sz files' or whatever files you want to send.

Use 'sz file(s)' for sending Zmodem, 'rz' for receiving Zmodem, 'sb file(s)'  
for sending Ymodem batch, 'rb' for receiving Ymodem batch, 'sx file' for  
sending Xmodem, and 'rx file' for receiving Xmodem.

Now you have no reason not to use Kermit all the time.  My tip just collects  
dust.

--- '.kermrc' cut here ---
# Send & receive Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem macros

define sx -
	!sx < \v(line) > \v(line) \%1

define rx -
	!rx < \v(line) > \v(line) \%1

define sb -
	!sb < \v(line) > \v(line) \%1

define rb -
	!rb < \v(line) > \v(line) \%1

define sz -
	!sz < \v(line) > \v(line) \%1

define rz -
	!rz < \v(line) > \v(line) \%1
--- '.kermrc' end --

-- 
Davor Barcan
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: Why does NewsGrazer quit when I "catch-up" many articles??
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:27:32 GMT


Hi,
     When I try to "catch up" on many (200) articles, NewGrazer quits on  
me. Why? And can it be fixed?
--
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu  (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Another new feature (Was Re: Get one more free dock entry under 3.0)
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:12:00 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

>> You don't have to go through all this gymnastics to move the
>> Recycler icon.  You can either Command-drag or Alt-drag the icon
>> from dock to lewer-left and release it (Can't remember exactly which).

command key

another tip
if you double click on the next icon on the dock while holding
the command key, it will hide _all_ the windows not just the ones beside
except workspace.  its a nice way to quickly cover up your game when
your boss comes by.  (this is what happens if the fileviewer is currently
being displayed - otherwise it brings up the fileviewer like a normal
double click.




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: otto@jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Speed of 3.0 relative to 2.X
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:14:44 GMT

Quite some time ago, jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov (L J "Jim" Kiraly) wrote...
[re adding memory to get better speed]
>Didn't need to yet!  I changed the boot procedure to use 32 instead of 16  
>buffers and got a major speedup and overall improved performance. (e.g.
>"CMD~"; during reboot; and then "bsd sdmach -nbuf=32" )  This seems to
>remain set between restart/reboots although I haven't actually power cylced
>things yet.

I just upgraded to NS3.0, and tried this to see if I could pep it up a bit...
I end up with "init exited" (as it did also with NS2.1), and it obviously
doesn't boot.

Monochrome NeXTstation with 32Mbytes of memory.  Ideas, anyone?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: transfers with tip
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:28:24 GMT

frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:

>In article <1992Dec22.165611.2328@dvorak.amd.com>  writes:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I've been using tip with my ZyXEL U-1496E for a couple weeks now and I have a
>> question.  Tip's UNIX to UNIX file transfer commands (~t and ~p I believe)
>> only seem to work with ASCII files.  If I want to transfer anything else with
>> them I have to uuencode it.  Am I missings something here, or is this just  
>the
>> nature of the beast?

>Quite correct. I don't beleive that you can get an 8bit clean connection with  
>either tip or cu. (I'm in need of such a thing, but for an AT&T SYSV3R2, which  
>means I need the sources...) This is what you need to pass binaries. Because  

Tip sources are available.  Try to ask archie.  I am not sure if there
is a way to force tip into 8bit connection (it seems to me that it is).
On rare occasions when I had to use it I was using instead tipx -
tip with a built-in x/y/zmodem protocol.  It required some hacking
to support higher baud rates but it worked pretty well in general.

   Michal Jaegermann
   ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: mikael@scout.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer and Digital Librarian
Date: 1 Jan 93 07:37:35 GMT
Reply-To: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu
Distribution: usa

Hi folks.

This is probably an old problem (with hopefully an old solution.)
I'm using NewsGrazer 72.3 under NS 3.0 and I'd like to use my newsfolders  
in Digital Librarian.  However, in order to index them I first have to  
rename each one (take the ".nfold" extension off.)  Is there a patch for  
NewsGrazer that remedies this situation?  I'm dying to use the new  
automatic periodic indexing feature DL has in 3.0.

Thanks.

Mikael Behrens
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.software:3230 comp.mail.headers:384
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.headers
Subject: Mail alias question
Date: 30 Dec 92 07:25:39 GMT
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.

(I do not receive comp.mail.headers, so please answer by mail if you see this  
message in that group).

If I make a mail alias in netinfo and add several members to it and send mail to  
that alias my mail has a To: header that says:

	To: my_domain!alias_name

and it seems to be interpreted correctly in such a way that the UUCP control file  
says

	rmail member1 member2 member3

But is this To: field not wrong? Shouldn't all alias members be expanded there too? 

Thanks,

--Gerben
-- 
Gerben Wierda                 Tel. (+31) 35 833539
  "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
  From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: So-called Ascii files
Keywords: asciii
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:16:02 GMT


I want to edit files OCR'd to a Mac on my Next,
and then transfer them back to the Mac because 
there's an analysis app unavailable for Next.

These files happen to be in Italian (many accented
characters). Saving on Next to RTF, text, WP 4.2, etc.
will not retain these characters when I carry the 
disk over to the Mac (they are not and cannot be 
connected on a network here). 

Someone suggested unix command tr, and gave me the 
syntax, but tr seems to do absolutely nothing when I
invoke it. I have to control C. And I talking 
about 4k test files. 

WHAT can I do? Don't want to use Executor. 

Thanks

Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ.
From: jlauret@sbchem.sunysb.edu (Jrme LAURET)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need 3D application
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:26:43 GMT
Reply-To: jlauret@sbchem.sunysb.edu (Jrme LAURET)
Organization: SUNYSB.EDU


	Could someone say to me where I can find any free software application for 3D visualisation ? I already found an application called Hidden witch is approximatly what I need ( ~ plot of an X Y Z file)  but this one  have some drawback.
	Thanks for any hints or/and informations by E-mail (NeXT mail @nucnx2.chem...)

		J. Lauret
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Loginwindow tiffs
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:26:13 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM

While we're on the subject of loginwindow tiffs, anyone know how to get alpha
into those puppies?

I know how to do it in Icon, and I know the image had alpha, but it doesn't
look like it makes a difference.  I want alpha in there because backgrounds
can be many different colors and I don't want this big splotch of gray for
the loginwindow tiffs that are bigger than the standard panel.
------
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recognize that the domination of education or of government by any one
particular religious faith is never a happy arrangement for the people.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: fantasy style login image
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:16:45 GMT
Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik

In article <1992Dec23.032924.9696@macc.wisc.edu>  writes:
> In article <1h7gl4INNeeo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
> 
> ># dwrite loginwindow ImageFile fullPathForNewLoginPanelTiff
> 
> >Then restart the window server as Jess described.
> 
> Naturally I tried that.  Doesn't work, at least not for me.
> I'd like confirmation that it *does* work under 3.0, for
> someone.  Standard-issue 3.0, off the CD-ROM.  Needless to
> say, I've checked *very* carefully that the dwrite was set
> as Art (and others) have mentioned.
> 
> -- 
> [Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of  
Wisconsin]
> [Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best,  
UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
> [Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone  
608/262-5888]
> [---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values  
<---------]

It DOES work, you have to do this as root!
Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen)
Subject: Re: InfoWorld Dec 21
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 18:02:11 GMT

Hal Fox-Palmer writes
> from Robert X. Cringely column, back page of (21 Dec) InfoWorld.
> 
> "Santa Steve. Not!...  The stress level at NeXT Inc., for example, is off  
> the meter. Steve Jobs is driving his kids toward a new hardware generation  
> as the company runs on fumes and money borrowed from Canon. Bad idea...."

Yeah, why would Steve Jobs ever believe that he could lead a band of
talented 'kids' to develop a new product in a tense rush with the future
of his company in question? :<) :<) :<)

First step: get a NS 3 release that we can install confidently.

Second step: ship NS 486.

Third step: market the above to get into volume.

Fourth step: ship on top performance desktop hardware (black or otherwise).

Yes, they are interrelated, but prioritized for convenience. I want a new
generation of hardware and am disappointed that NeXT basically shipped the
same hardware for a full year.

A safe and peaceful Christmastide to one and all,

Mark R. Thomsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: ScenePatch.app
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:33:14 GMT

In article <9212311438.AA03231@ensuing.com> karl@ensuing.com
(Karl Kraft) writes:

>In article <1992Dec31.054848.14122@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu  
>(Jess Anderson) writes:

>>ScenePatch.app.compressed is listed at sonata with length 0
>>and a completely screwy timestamp; clearly the upload did
>>not work.  I think the server is hosed;

>After putting ScenePatch on the archive site, I grabbed it to make sure  
>that the entire file made it.  Unfortunately it seems to have become  
>toast.  I've uploaded a copy to cs.orst.edu in the meantime.  I've also  
>sent a copy to Jess, so it should appear on his machine some time soon.

Thanks to the good offices of Karl Kraft (karl@ensuing.com),
ScenePatch.app.tar.Z is now available for anonymous ftp
(sorry, no mail server service) from yak.macc.wisc.edu
[144.92.30.18], in directory pub/next/scene.

Assuming you have already done the good thing for Icon.app
from NS2.1 using IconPatch (q.v.) and therefore have your
(large) shared libraries from 2.1 in the right place, fixing
Scene to work under 3.0 is dirt-simple: you drag and drop
the icon of the unpatched Scene onto the ScenePatch.app's
panel and zip! all's well.  I gave it try, worked like a
champ.

Bravos to Karl, he's my current hero.  But be aware that I'm
fickle; my hero is always the person who's done the most for
me *lately*!  :-)

In response to suggestions received from several quarters
that I create a submissions directory on yak, sorry, no can
do.  I'm getting short on disk space myself, so I have to
confine it a few specialized items.

I feel sorry for the person (I think it's a student
volunteer) at sonata who has to maintain things there.  It's
clearly badly hosed at the moment.  Also, I discovered this
morning that the copy of ScenePatch.app at cs.orst.edu is
also hosed (no executable inside there), though Karl will
probably have fixed that by the time you see this.

While I'm at it: things you can find on my machine include
the latest C-Kermit, the latest Elm mail user agent, my
login tiff collection, some documentation on Icon (but I'm
in the process of improving that, I hope), and a few other
things.

Here's hoping 1993 is the greatest year ever for NeXT and
NeXT users.  In any case, get safely through the coming
night.  The best to you and yours.

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values <---------]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP PROGRAMMING is here
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:08:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.121235.23382@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>I got my copy yesterday.  I ordered it from Springer about two months
>ago.  Yes, the floppy is for MS-DOS.

	Also, note the title change: "NeXTSTEP PROGRAMMING: Step One-
	Application Development" (or something to that effect, my copy
	isn't handy). Anyway, there is a promise of Step Two (DBkit 
	development) and Step Three (3Dkit). The book says they have SV's
	commitment to these forthcoming books. 

	Charlie

>
>-- 
>Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA         rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us         412-471-5320
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