From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.discrimination,soc.history,alt.activism,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines
Subject: Re: IHR Scores Stunning Victory in $11 Million Mermelstein Trial!
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:12:32 GMT
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics

In article <1992Apr13.071608.23468@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.075828.12911@midway.uchicago.edu> gross@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr10.024102.7404@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun) writes:
>>Maybe you don't understand English.  Danny's saying that he has
>>something, that when Ralph reads it, it will show that Ralph
>>(the person who distributes anti-Semitic White-Supremicist) literature
>>is wrong, where Danny has been right all along.
>
>Your right. Sometimes i don't understand. After all i'm nothing but one
>of those `hmar'(s) (=Donkeys, as one other netter puts it) arabs, am i not? :-)
>This time, i understood however, and followed Danny's article with a comment
>that complements a previous message i sent to him.
No, I did not call you a chamor or a jahash.

>Your lines however tell me something about another ``strategy'' adopted
>by many people on this net: ``Racist labeling''. Your assumption is that
>if you label ``Ralph Winston'' to be a white supremacist, people would
>cease to give his words any weight.

He posts stuff from the NAAWP which is a KKK group.  He also posts stuff
from the IHR, which share people and resources with the Nonetide press
which publishes propaganda, including stuff to recruit children for the
KKK.  I can document this.  I even have court cases which name the IHR
and other groups as a co-defendent, and I have lists of the kind of
material that the other groups distribute.  I have not called any
one on the net a white-supremicist except them.

>You might be right on his attitude, but i prefer discussing the issue rather
>than the person (or the label). If you had come up with an argument showing that
>some of the facts mentioned in his article are not true (for example), i would
>have appreciated more the value of your answer.

But they want the 'debate' to be this way.  It gives them legitimacy,
as if there are two sides, with equal valid points.  It's just isn't so.
They post the same stuff over and over, without using their real names,
they don't answer questions.  There simply is no comparison.
They claim to do history, but no historian takes them seriously.

>Roughly the same thing i think about the strategies used by the government of
>Israel whose practices sound like a front for Jewish supremacy and anti-Arab
>hate groups.
Sorry, but the Israelis give their own names. 

>>Please think before you post and make a fool of yourself again.
>>
>Thanks for the advice. (Should i tell you what `strategy' your line above
>falls under? Ask Danny what is strategy # 2? :-))

It is a warning to find out more about the people who are posting to the
group before you decide who to side with.

>George Hassoun

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
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