HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nharvey@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Nicole Harvey)
Subject: GST, interest rates, renovating
Summary: Effect of GST
Keywords: GST, interest, renovating
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:08:07 GMT

hi,
  Can anyone tell me what the effect of GST will be on home renovations.
ie. Will everything be more expensive. We have vague recollection of a program
that demonstrated that somethings would be cheaper under GST but we cant
remember what they were.
  By renovating I mean new appliances, new furniture and replastering walls,
rewiring, painting the whole works.
  We are planning extensive renovations and we are trying to decide if we
should do them before GST comes into operation.
  Can some one also give me an opinion about whether interest rates are now
rising again, and hence now is a risky time to take out a major loan.

  Thank you,

Nicole
nharvey@cs.utas.edu.au
 
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.comms,aus.aarnet
From: jen187@mis.csiro.au (Graham Jenkins +61 6 276 6812)
Subject: Re: Protocol Analyzers - any recommendations?
Keywords: WAN, LAN, Protocol Analyzer
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 03:08:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.052428.27845@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> btonkin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Bruce Tonkin) writes:

>
>Products that most interested me were the Wandel & Goltermann DA-30
>(expensive - but able to do simultaneous analysis of two Ethernets at
>once - e.g either side of a bridge or router), the Network General
>Sniffer, and Novell's LANalyzer).  
>
>So does anyone have any recommendations/experiences?  I can summarize
>responses to the net.
>

Have alook at the Hewlett Packard Network Advisor. Can do almost everything
the W&G can, except simultaneous two nets, and it's cheaper and far far
easier to setup and drive.


-- 

|  Graham Jenkins          |  graham.jenkins@its.csiro.au           | 
|  CSIRO                   |  (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial | 
|  Canberra,  AUSTRALIA    |  Research Organisation)                |
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.hi-fi
From: apw@ee.uts.edu.au (Tony Watson)
Subject: Advice sought on buying a VCR
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:47:05 GMT

Seeking the wisdom of the net again ...

I'm looking to purchase a VCR.  It's  _main purpose_  will be to add
functionality to my antiquated TV  (read:  no remote control, no stereo
sound).

One requirement then has to be a  well-designed  remote control (there are
some "shockers" out there) -- well suited to changing channels, etc.
The other requirement is of course, to be useful for recording programmes, etc.

Anyone care to make a recommendation ?


Some questions:

o Are all hi-fi VCRs, stereo ?    (I'd hate to overlook the obvious)

o The number of heads a VCR has seems to be important.  From what I've
  established:  2 heads is average;  3 heads gives you better "stills";
  4 heads are necessary for "Long Play" mode.

     o Is this correct ?
     o Do people find "Long Play" useful ?
     o Does the number of heads affect the hi-fi quality ?
	(I've seen hi-fi in both 2 head and 4 head machines)

o In terms of "programmability" (for recording) are all VCR's fairly
   equal now ?  (in terms of number of programmes / length of time of
   future recording).

o Some of them have on-screen programming -- is this much better than
   other methods ?  (so much so, that I should only buy one that is
   programmable on-screen).


Can you suggest other questions I should consider ?


Thanks in advance,
--
  __ __ _____________           Tony Watson
 |__(  )*________o___||         School of Electrical Engineering
 |___ / *____________||         University of Technology, Sydney
 |__ /_________o_____||           apw@ee.uts.edu.au   330-2346
 |___________________||         "A winner never quits,
           con brio                    and a quitter never wins"
From: nharvey@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Nicole Harvey)
Subject: financing renovations
Summary: financing renovations
Keywords: fincance
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:38:30 GMT

hi,
   Can anyone tell me the best way to finance large home renovations.
1). Extending your home loan
2). Personal loan
3). One of those Citibank loans (how does this work by the way)
4). Other

This is for a loan of approx. $30000

Thank You

Nicole
nharvey cs.utas.edu.au

Newsgroups: aus.general
From: mantolov@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Michael Antolovich)
Subject: Re: financing renovations
Keywords: fincance
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:32:14 GMT

In article <18k5stINNqei@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> doug@psy.uwa.oz.au (Doug Robb) writes:
>nharvey@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Nicole Harvey) writes:
>
>>hi,
>>   Can anyone tell me the best way to finance large home renovations.
>>1). Extending your home loan
>>2). Personal loan
>>3). One of those Citibank loans (how does this work by the way)
>>4). Other
>
>>This is for a loan of approx. $30000
>
>I would extend the home loan. Home loans are the cheapest
>forms of finance you will find. Whatever you do don't take out
>a personal loan - that would be crazy!
>
>--
>email  - doug@psy.uwa.edu.au  ,-_|\    Doug Robb
>phone  - +61 9 380 2507      /     \   Psychology Department
>fax    - +61 9 380 1006      *_,-._/   University of Western Australia
>                                   v

	I thought about this for a while (actually it was for a smaller
loan (~$10,000).  A home loan is definitley cheaper than a personal
loan, but depending on how you pay it, can cost a lot more money.  This
occurs because personal loans are short(ish) term 5-10 years (?), while
home loans can run up to 30 years.  With current inflation levels, what
is better, long term low interest or short term high interest ?
	The other factors to consider of course are the amount of the
repayments (I can't aford high repayments right now, but can do the
smaller long term ones etc).
	I'm still confused ....
	Michael
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
\          Michael Antolovich in Wagga Wagga, a great place to be be...      /
 \     mantolovich@golum.riv.csu.edu.au OR antolovich@zac.riv.csu.edu.au    /
  \________________________________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Re: No fault? (Was Re: Advice on car insurance companies ?)
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:19:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.002514.29190@cs.su.oz.au>
    allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer) writes:

>You disbelieving bastard   ;-)
>...
>Mr policeman said" Don't worry mate it happens all the time on this section
>when it rains.."
>...
>No fault was determined AFTER the GIO had assesed the damage,police report
>and reviewed my driving history.
>...
>Happy now.                  ;-)
>( I agree with you ,sort of.GIO could have been real arses about this.)

Ah - a quite reasonable explanation :-)

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: gfreeman@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Graham Freeman)
Subject: Course in X Windows and OSF/Motif
Keywords: X Windows, Motif
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:57:27 GMT


A course is to be run in Canberra:

      Introduction to X Windows and OSF/Motif
               28-30 October 1992

The course provides a practical introduction to X Windows
using a combination of lecture/tutorial presentations and
hands-on laboratory sessions.  Attenders will have access
to X Terminals, and will gain experience in use of and
configuring the X environment.  They will be provided
with copies of the lecture notes and a textbook.

No familiarity with X Windows will be assumed, but attenders 
should already understand basic UNIX commands and simple C.  

If you are interested in attending, a brochure and 
application form is available from:
      Centre for Information Technology 
         Research and Development
      University College
      Australian Defence Force Academy
      CAMPBELL,  ACT 2600
or by e-mail from  
      gfreeman@cs.adfa.oz.au
                                      Graham Freeman
From: s314262@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (dylan tusler)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Help needed from UWA
Summary: Need to find someone at UWA
Keywords: UWA
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:52:02 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Queensland Uni, Australia

'd like to get a message to Dr Van Ikin in the English department
at the University of Western Australia.

Anyone at the site who can pass it on for me would be very
much appreciated.

Please email me and let me know SOON.

Dylan.
s314262@cs.uq.oz.au
From: gcopmse@state.systems.sa.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: java bacpacking info required
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:22:08 GMT
Organization: State Systems, South Australia

sorry about posting this info into aus general but the place where i work has
decided to remove all rec. newsgroups well what i am after is info on back
packing thro java have you ? if so i would like to know any good beaches aor
places of interest in eastern java ? beaches to body surf i know about lonely
planets guides but by the time these are published and on the shelves the nice
quiet place is a mega tourist spot.
From: bpja@codex.oz.au (Brett Adam)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Commercial net services
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:02:01 GMT
Reply-To: bpja@codex.oz.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd

Ankh,

Contact connect.com.au. They have melbourne and syndey hubs and offer dial up,  
PPP, SLIP, ISDN etc. etc.

hugh@connect.com.au should get you to hugh irvine, of Connect.

regards,

brett adam
bpja@codex.oz.au
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Adam                 Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd.
NeXTMail: bpja@codex.oz.au                  AppleLink: AUST0335
(Preferred.)                                 (Only if you must) 
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (Melbourne housemate)
Subject: Female housemate wanted, Melbourne, Clayton
Summary: Female housemate wanted, Melbourne, Clayton
Keywords: Melbourne, housemate, wanted, female, Clayton
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Distribution: melb
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:35:55 GMT


   A female is sought to share a fully-furnished 3 BR house in the
Melbourne suburb of Clayton Nth with two Monash University (Clayton) staff.
Just off Blackburn Rd., south of Ferntree Gully Rd., about 30 min walk to most
parts of (Monash) Clayton campus.
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.hi-fi
From: gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green)
Subject: Re: Advice sought on buying a VCR
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 08:34:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.145909.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> sysnet@cc.newcastle.edu.au (David Morrison) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.033839.1355@mel.dit.csiro.au>, gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green) writes:
>> The bar code systems are of dubious benefit IHMO. Since not all the
>> programs are published.
>
>They do provide you with a card with bar codes for all the times, channels etc
>on it.  In practice, and this applies to any system, the channels so rarely
>stick to their published times that any printed or teletext setting runs the
>risk of losing part of the program.  I find I almost invariably have to allow
>a couple of minutes before the start and usually ten minutes at the end to be
>reasonably sure of geeting the whole program.  There is nothing so frustrating
>as to lose the last three minutes of a program!! 
>-- 
>David Morrison, Manager, Networks and Comms, Uni of Newcastle, Australia
>sysnet@cc.newcastle.edu.au or (VAX PSI) psi%0505249626002::sysnet
>Phone: +61 49 215397	Fax: +61 49 216910

Is that all the leverage you give them! My "standard" is 5 minutes before
AND after for a short program ( <= hour ) and 5 minutes before and at least
15 minutes after for a movie, more for a long one. They a rarely early and
often late !  Often, to be sure, to be sure, I tell it to stop at a time
well after the capacity of the tape! This way the only thing that will
prevent getting the end is running out of tape and not being too stingy
with the stop time.

I hate it when I loose the last minutes of a movie! - I ALWAYS check
that I got the end before sitting down to watch it.
-- 
* Steve Green     *  "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outa my hat!"    *
* Comms Group     *  "That trick never works"                            *
* ITS Branch      *  "Nothin' up my sleeve - PRESTO"                     *
* CSIRO Australia *  "No doubt about it - I gotta get another hat"       *
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.hi-fi
From: nharvey@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Nicole Harvey)
Subject: Tv games - Mega and Nintendo
Summary: which is best
Keywords: Mega, NIntendo
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:22:31 GMT

hi,
 Can anyone tell me which is the better system. Sega or Nintendo. 
 And is it worth paying the extra money to get the 16 bit version of 
each ie. Sega Mega Drive or Super Nintendo.
  Does anyone have anyone gripes about either of them.

Thank you
Nicole
nharvey cs.utas.edu.au
From: ksarkies@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Ken W. Sarkies)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Faculty Board Membership
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:56:11 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <1992Sep4.072105.3716@darwin.ntu.edu.au> b_duke@darwin.ntu.edu.au (Brian Duke) writes:
>The management in this place is attempting (it believes it has succeeded)
>to remove the right of all full-time academic staff teaching units in a
>Faculty to belong to the Faculty Board. They want a restricted membership
>mostly of people who hold some kind of office. It is the management
>principle that only people with a responsibility for decisions are allowed
>to take them. It is the removal, IMO, of the last remmant of collegiality
>and a most retrograde step.
>
>My questions are these. Are the buggers trying to do this in other universities?
>Have they succeeded anywhere? What is the best form of attack?
>--
>                  Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke)
>School of Chemistry and Earth Sciences, Northern Territory University
>        GPO Box 40146, Casuarina, NT 0811, Australia.
>Phone 089-466702   FAX 089-410460    E-mail B_DUKE@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU

I haven't heard of this anywhere else, certainly not here. You are right to
be very concerned, and so should other people. Where is FAUSA?
-- 
                                Ken Sarkies

No disclaimer. My boss takes all responsibility for my big mouth.
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.aarnet,aus.archives
From: michael@maria.cc.utas.edu.au (Michael Henry)
Subject: WAIS index of UMich Mac archive now on archie.au
Keywords: wais mac
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:14:41 GMT

The wais indexer on archie.au has been updated to understand the UMich Mac
archive index format.  The info in /micros/mac/umich/00help/index.txt has
been incorporated into the archie.au-mac-readmes source.

The abstracts/readmes/indexes for the pc, mac and amiga archives on archie.au
are all searchable by *keyword* from the wais sources
	archie.au-amiga-readmes
	archie.au-mac-readmes
	archie.au-pc-readmes

WAIS on archie.au is (briefly) documented in
	archie.au:/info/wais

and wais documentation and programs are in
	archie.au:/wais

let me know if there are any problems, omissions etc.

michael.

ps.  WAIS is Wide Area Information Services (Server)
From: beam@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Harbour Tunnel opening
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:30:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:otc.otca.oz:6310:peg:993300065:000:49
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!beam    Sep  4 17:30:00 1992


at least we all hope it will be last update :-)
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.comms,aus.aarnet
From: btonkin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Bruce Tonkin)
Subject: Protocol Analyzers - any recommendations?
Keywords: WAN, LAN, Protocol Analyzer
Organization: Monash University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 05:24:28 GMT


What protocol analyzers are network managers using out there?

I am interested in a device that can decode protocols up to their
higher layers - including Appletalk, Novell IPX, and TCP/IP.  

I also would like a device that is fast enough to generate and capture frames
at close to the maximum frame rate for Ethernet (e.g 14,800 64-byte
frames/sec).  It would be useful to be able to capture live traffic
and play it back through a test network.

The April 1992 issue of Australian Communications presented a table of
products and some of their features.

Products that most interested me were the Wandel & Goltermann DA-30
(expensive - but able to do simultaneous analysis of two Ethernets at
once - e.g either side of a bridge or router), the Network General
Sniffer, and Novell's LANalyzer).  

So does anyone have any recommendations/experiences?  I can summarize
responses to the net.

Thanks,
Bruce 


Bruce Tonkin
Centre for Telecommunications and Information Engineering
Department of Electrical and Computer Systems Engineering
Monash University, CLAYTON, VIC, 3168
FAX (03) 565-3454




Newsgroups: aus.general
From: jonathan@psych.psy.uq.oz.au (Jonathan Dwyer)
Subject: PERSONAL Re: Travelling through Aboriginal land
Followup-To: aus.general
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:05:07 GMT

Sorry to post this to the whole net, but:

I have tried

whois NIC DDN
whois at IBM
NIC at IBM
pit-manager  search
netfind

and cannot find an address for the man who wrote the article below.
When I send to  the given address (mitchell@rchland.vnet.ibm.com) it
bounces unknown host (after about 30 mins!!!)

==> Andy Mitchell, if you read this, please write to jonathan@psych.psy.uq.oz.au

Anyway, here is the header etc...



------------------------------------
Article: 2702 of aus.general
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: mitchell@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Andy Mitchell)
Subject: Travelling through Aboriginal land - question.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 05:09:35 EST
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
|> I'm going to be travelling around the coastline of Australia next year.
|> 
|> I understand I need permission when travelling through Aboriginal lands.
|> Do I need to contact each area separately - or is there a central place I can contact to
|> 'clear' me through all areas? 
|> 
|> 
|> Andy Mitchell
|> Mail:  PO Box 6654 Rochester MN 55903
|> Phone: (507)367-2565

If you wrote
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: mitchell@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Andy Mitchell)
Subject: Travelling through Aboriginal land - question.
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 19:09:35 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


-- 

I'm going to be travelling around the coastline of Australia next year.

I understand I need permission when travelling through Aboriginal lands.
Do I need to contact each area separately - or is there a central place I can contact to
'clear' me through all areas? 



Andy Mitchell
Mail:  PO Box 6654 Rochester MN 55903
Phone: (507)367-2565
---------------------------------------
"It's in the Raisins"   --- anonymous
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: stefano@psych (Stefano Occhipinti)
Subject: Re: hinch
Keywords: hinch
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:46:14 GMT

sgccmjw@citec.oz.au (Mark Wilton 23313) writes:

>To all HINCH viewers in other states other than Queensland, we need to know
>who is the federal mp child molestor, HINCH was talking about him
>and BIG brother channel 10 Bleeped him out, SCUM BAGS!!!!
>liberate us from this pathetic censorship!!

it's not channel 10, it's the way the law is in QLD. It's in the
interests of the alleged victims' confidentiality.
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.hi-fi
From: Anneliese Kropf <akropf@mariner.amc.ed.au>
Subject: Visibility on black bike
Organization: Australian Maritime College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:34:01 GMT

Has anyone any thoughts on clothing and helmet colours on bikes?  We need
to buy new DriRiders but can't decide on Red (for visibility) or Black
(for preference) with bright helmets.  Has anyone any suggestions as to
whether  the new trendy bright helmets would stand out enough on a black
bike (ZZR) with black riders or whether red would be better.  We are
located in Tasmania where the traffic is nowhere near as bad as Melbourne
or Sydney but would like to tour on the 'big island' and need to take
this into consideration.

Anneliese Kropf
Australian Maritime College
Launceston,  Tasmania
akropf@mariner.amc.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: RAGE Rally (repost)
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:13:59 GMT

Apparently news is finding it hard to get out of this site .. so I am reposting
this article .. 
Jason.

BEGIN REPOST -----------------------------------


Well fellow motorcyclists there is a rally coming up that I am attending along
with a few of my friends .. I went to it last year and it was a BLAST!! :) .
Anyone in the sydney area, or going thru the sydney area, intrested in coming
are welcome to ride with us to the rally (group riding is always better in
bigger groups ;) ).  Here is the blurb on the rally .. (taken from two wheels)


			RAGE Rally ..
		       October 10-11
Yeah, it's on again! RAGE Tourers is holding it's third annual rally at
Capertee, 40 km from Lithgow up the Mudgee Road.  She's fully catered, with
bands and bar, water, toilets, bike show, gymkhana, bungie run (gotta see it to
believe it), usual rally awards (30 trophies, $100 wet T-shirt, $100 largest
club and over $1000 in cash, goods and prizes).  No Cars, no glass, no
exceptions.  Cost is $12 (includes badge)


Last year it was a wild rally :) the wet t-shirt comp was something to see :)
if you are interested in going with us e-mail me at jef@ansot.gov.au .

Power Slides Rule!! :) (the adrenalin rush is awesome eh :))
Jason.


-- 
Sidewindr 		'90 B3 ZX-10 Ninja       DoD #0435  
e-mail: jef@ansto.gov.au
Po Box 24 Engadine      A motorcyclist rides a motorcycle but a motorcycle
N.S.W. Australia 2233   rider is not necessarily a motorcyclist. - jef.
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc)
Subject: Re: kidney punches
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date:  9 Sep 92 02:23:20 GMT

ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:

>So has anyone been riding along a highway, suddenly hit a bump/pothole
>and felt as though their kidneys have been reduced to 1/4 normal size?
>Bloody hurts.

You are NOT kidding! I felt winded sore and very annoyed! The memory brings
tears to my eyes...

>PS How about organising a melbourne ride for first weekend in October?
>email or post...

YES! Round townsville and back. May take a weekend though :-)


--
David Le Blanc                         :
Email: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au : `Sort of a cross between a Jaguar
CSIRO Division of Geomechanics,	       :  and a freight train.' the Alien
P.O. Box 54 Mt Waverley 3149	       : in Alien^3.
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: correction on victorian bike ride
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:57:29 GMT

Ok... the date is 3rd or 4th (sat, sun).

sorry about the previous posting, but "cal 10 92" gave me a calendar for
0092AD... oh well.

Take care,

  Shckwish!