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From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: So we pay for 7.1 - - - How much?
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:52:48 GMT

So once I've resigned myself to paying for System 7.1, the question
becomes: How much is Apple going to charge?

Are we talking a Microsoft-like $50.00 (which comes to a very
managable $25.00 after I split with my friend who owns a Mac)
or an Apple-like rediculous $100.00+ dollars?

Does anyone actually have any idea how much Apple will charge?


--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: What to do about hollow black mouse ball?
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:37:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard on the Hill--Bismarck State College

I've put up with the hollow black (tiny too) mouse ball in my
ADB mouse for about 10 months now.  It's getting intolerable,
but my local dealer says I can't get a weighted ball from Apple
for it.

Any suggestions?  I clean the ball, mouse, and pad regularly to
no avail.

Clint
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150
From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: My Grouch doesn't work!! HELP!
Date: 30 Sep 1992 01:11:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, larimer@zeus.cdc.com (Mark D. Larimer) says:

>In article <1992Sep29.194928.2743@dvorak.amd.com> Faisal M. Bhamani, 
>faisal@dvorak.amd.com writes:
>>
>>I have a Powerbook 145 and can not get the Grouch to work.  I
>>put it in the system folder and it automatically put it in the
>>appropriate folder.  When I restart and empty the trash, nothing.
>>What's the deal?  Does it have to have color? 
>
>The last I heard, the Grouch doesn't work on any System 7 machine.
>Sorry...
>
>Mark D. Larimer
>(Control Data Systems, Inc.) && (University of Minnesota)
>Internet: larimer@zeus.cdc.com
>
>Go Meanies (3-1) !!
>
 Grouch runs fine for me under System 7 with AfterDark, "EYES", QuickTime,
SpeedyFinder, and other numerous INITS installed on my 10/40 LC. Maybe
it requires color. Check the docs with it.
-- 
         Travis Grundke- Contributing Editor, MacGames Digest
                      an780@cleveland.freenet.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
    MacGames Digest: The first magazine dedicated to Macintosh Gaming.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cgarnett@unix.amherst.edu (CRAIG HAMMOND GARNETT)
Subject: Re: Minimum Req for AUX
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:35:59 GMT

The absolute mimimum requirements for running A/UX 3.0:

Computer: You need a Mac II class machine, a Quadra, or an SE/30.
          Note that if you're going to use the original Mac II, with no
          letters after the name, you've got to shell out for the PMMU
          chip which lets it do virtual memory. This is the same chip
          you need if you want your original Mac II to do VM under
          System 7, too. If you want to use a IIsi, you've got to have
          a math coprocessor. 

Memory:   8mb.

Storage:  80MB hard disk for a minimum system, but if you want to
          install all of the X stuff, you need something bigger.
          Fortunately, A/UX 3.0 will accept almost any hard drive,
          Apple brand or not. Hard Drive speed is important, too, as
          A/UX does a lot of reading and writing to disk.

Others:   You need a CD-ROM drive. A/UX only comes on CDs now. If you
          want to do the Internet thing, you're going to need an
          Ethernet card that's register compatible with Apple's
          cards, or one that comes with an A/UX driver for it.


BUT:     What you WANT is not the minimum configuration. A/UX is not
         a zippy operating system. Running it on anything less than a
         Quadra or maybe a IIfx requires a certain amount of patience.
         It's generally agreed that you really need more than 8mb of
         system memory, 20mb being a nice round number for the 8 SIMM
         slot Macs. A 200mb hard drive is pretty much the minimum if
         you're planning on doing any real work on it, or if there's
         going to be a number of users on the machine. You should take
         a look in the A/UX UNIX newsgroup to get a copy of the FAQ.
         It's edited/written by an A/UX guru, who's really helpful when
         it comes to asking questions and getting help.

-Craig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.)
Subject: Re: FTPmail from Sumex and UMichigan
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:39:36 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <9209301552.AA22471@MIT.EDU> bowler@athena.mit.edu (Bert Smith) writes:
>I know there are addresses where I can get files sent from both Sumex and
>the UMich archives?  What are they?  (I remember that Sumex is at Rice,
>while the UMich is some UMich address.)  I can't remember the exact address
>for both.
The fastest and easiest way to do this is to send it to the new MacGifts
address, macgifts@mac.archive.umich.edu. Not only will your file go to 
Sumex and the UMich sites, it'll arrive at the smaller sites like
f.ms.uky.edu (which is suffering cause I'm having a bad school year this
time... sorry), microlib.cc.utexas.edu, etc. as well as comp.binaries.mac.

Can't beat that for service. :)
>
>Could some kind person please email me these addresses.
>
>Thanks,
>-bert smith
>

David W. Rankin, Jr.,  Mac Archiver for f.ms.uky.edu   Yorick on IRC
rankin@ms.uky.edu  rankin@ukma.BITNET rankin@ukma.UUCP uunet!ukma!rankin
Alternate addresses: rankin@mik.uky.edu  djrank00@aix3090b.uky.edu
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"Now all has been heard;/ Here is the conclusion of the matter:/ Fear God and
keep his commandments,/ for this is the whole duty of man."
    "The Teacher", Ecclesiastes 12:13 (NIV)
From: kiberkli@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Install SIMMs = void warranty ?
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:07:28 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University

In article <1992Sep23.125424.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> matap@lure.latrobe.edu.au (Andrej Panjkov, La Trobe Maths) writes:
>Sender: news@lugb.latrobe.edu.au (USENET News System)
>Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University 
>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1992 08:26:03 GMT
>
>Hey net:
>
>I intend buying a Classic 2/40.  The sales rep told me that if I installed
>SIMMS myself, I would void the warranty.

Yes this is true, at least for my MacIIsi, however you should be able to 
pay a mac qualified tech to install simms of your choice (i.e. not Apple's)
On the other hand no one could tell me if I'd void the warranty by installing
an FPU unit.

>I would prefer to install the SIMMs myself if I later decided I needed the 
>extra memory.  DIY is clearly much cheaper.

Who wouldn't. After Apple changed the plastic clips to metal this process
became less risky. After all you wanted someone else to break the clips and
have that person replace the entire motherboard.

kib
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:17410 comp.sys.mac.system:12548
Organization: Miskatonic University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:49:33 EDT
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Passwording Mac disks?
Followup-To: poster

Is there any way to put a read password of a Macintosh disk, or on specific
folders? If there is, how effective is it?

Thanks for any info....
______
Brian Panulla                                              Hail Sinfonia!
bjp108@psuvm.psu.edu / ender@vivaldi.psu.edu / moocow@fubar.bk.psu.edu
(The opinions expressed above are mine alone, and do not reflect those of)
(Penn State University, or the Center for Academic Computing, so there!  )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: nasadk@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Re: Install SIMMs = void warranty ?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:01:28 GMT

kiberkli@rodan.acs.syr.edu () writes:

>In article <1992Sep23.125424.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> matap@lure.latrobe.edu.au (Andrej Panjkov, La Trobe Maths) writes:
>>Sender: news@lugb.latrobe.edu.au (USENET News System)
>>Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University 
>>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1992 08:26:03 GMT
>>
>>Hey net:
>>
>>I intend buying a Classic 2/40.  The sales rep told me that if I installed
>>SIMMS myself, I would void the warranty.

>Yes this is true, at least for my MacIIsi, however you should be able to 
>pay a mac qualified tech to install simms of your choice (i.e. not Apple's)
>On the other hand no one could tell me if I'd void the warranty by installing
>an FPU unit.

Not really. According to Apple's Tech Note #176 "Installing SIMMs", the     
following warning was given : "Because the video monitor is built in, there
are dangerous voltages inside the cases of the Macintosh Plus, SE, Classic,
Classic II, and SE/30 computers. The video tube and video circuitry may hold
dangerous charges long after the computer's power is turned off. Opening
the case of these computers requires special tools and may invalidate your 
warranty. Installation of RAM in the SIMM sockets in these computers should
be done by qualified service personnel only."

As far as modular Macs are concerned (IIsi, IIci, IIcx, IIfx, etc.) I could
have sworn one of the manuals that came with my IIsi addressed the issue
of SIMM installation and said they could be installed WITHOUT voiding the
warrantee. I also asked the computer repair department here, and they said
the warrentee would not be void if I installed the SIMMs myself.

I also installed a NuBus adapter on my IIsi, and even it said my 
installing it would not invalidate the warrentee.

If you are afraid you'll damage something, then pay to have the SIMMs
installed. If you have a modular Mac (IIsi, IIci, IIcx, IIfx, etc.) then
you may be able to install SIMMs yourself. CHECK THE MANUAL - along 
with saying what speed SIMMs you need, it may mention something about installation.

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>

"Funny. TN #176 says that the Macs have not been tested with larger than 
1 Meg SIMMs. Using larger SIMMs approaches the theoretical limits for a
Mac, but may not work."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: PC floppies on the MAC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 10:33:47 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EC90F85A012101@via.dsf4.merit.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 10:37:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.234756.8795@cs.mcgill.ca> Sandro MAZZUCATO,
pedro@cs.mcgill.ca writes:
>      I don't know much about MACs. Someone I know is looking for a 
>shareware/freeware program that will allow him to read PC disks on his
MAC
>He has LD and HD disk drives. Can anyone give me any ftp site
>that I should look at .. and what for .

There's no shareware that does that (so far as I know). There are three
commercial products: DOSMounter, Access PC, and a version of Access PC
put out by Apple (I forget the name).  All of them cost about the same,
around $70 from the usual discounters.

Jeff
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Date: Mon,  5 Oct 92 19:57:26 MDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Start Up Applications
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: gaow@bones.et.byu.edu (Jinsong Gao)

Hi. I have a question to ask.  I put an application into startup items folder 
so it will be run every time I turn on the machine.  Now is there a way to 
not start the application without having to restart?  (that is disabling it
during system start).


Oh, one other thing.  My friend has a IIx,  and he's got MODE32, and 20meg
worth of SIMMS.  When he turns on MODE32 and turns on 32 bit addressing, the
machine starts up and the screen becomes messed up with strips and everything.
Does anybody know what is causing this and how to make it work so he can use
more than 8 meg RAM?

Thanks for any help.
From: kriss@mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Looking for an init to avoid re<>ding desktop
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:13:51 GMT

Recently I was looking for an init that would allow me to switch from system
6.0.7 to system 7 without having to partition my hard drive (as in both at the
same time) Now I am wondering if there is an init that will allow me to do this 
without having to rebuild the desktop every time i switch back to system 7. 
if you know where i can FTP this, please ket me know..,

BTW, "System Picker" is what I am using to switch, if you are looking for it
and it is at ftp.apple.com

thanks for your help
kriss@mcl.ucsb.edu
From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck 'Big Brain, No Thoughts' McMath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: File Sharing a CD-ROM?
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:23:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: MSD

I feel stupid, but here goes:

I have a CD-ROM drive attached to my Mac.  I'd like to make it sharable so
others can mount it on the network.  When I select the drive icon and then
select 'Sharing' from the File menu, I get one of the most useless error
messages ever encountered:

'One or more items could not be shared because not all volumes are
available for file sharing.'

Well, I don't even understand what it's saying, so I don't know how I can
correct that.  Besides, it's lying - I have my main disk shared.

So, the question is: can I share the CD-ROM or not?

Thanks!

chuck


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Outbound Laptop Macs Any Good?
Keywords: Laptop Mac, Portable Mac
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 13:17:02 EDT

In article <1992Oct4.143602.25065@news.cs.brandeis.edu> dkw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Wittenberg) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.023821.7371@news.Hawaii.Edu>, deane@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kimo Kanaka De`ane) writes:
>|> 
>|> a couple days. You decide.
>|> 	The Outbound's screen can't get bright enough for me, and more 
>|> importantly, has moderate to severe ghosting. Again, I found it annoying
>|> over prolonged use. The PB170's active-matrix screen is beautiful, just 
>|> like a Mac+'s. I have not used the other PB screen.
>|> 
>|> 	Personally, I'd save up the extra $ and get a PowerBook. 
>
>Be aware that the Outbound uses the same screen as the Power Book 145
>(and PB100 and PB140 when they were made), so the screen is an issue
>only if you buy a PB170.

Actually, it's not the same screen, except that they're both backlit lcd
displays.  The Outbound displays are larger (640x480), and according to
the recent MacWorld review, the Outbounds aren't as bright, and do suffer
from more ghosting.

I haven't used either, so I can't provide any personal thoughts...


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PostScript for LaserWriter LS (request)
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:07:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

>    (although it is very slow)... The commercial software is called 'Freedom of
>    Press Light'.  My question is: Is there a shareware equivilant?  If so
>    could someone post an ftp site where I could pick it up?  ...or mail me a
>    uuencoded version... Thanks either way.

	I'll file this one with my collection of requests for shareware disk 
defraggers, backup utilities, and System-7 compatible print spoolers for the 
ImageWriter, i.e. in the category of things that are so cheap commercially that 
anyone who would actually pay for them will have already bought a commercial 
version so that there's no real (i.e. paying) market
for a cheaper shareware version. 

	Freedom of the Press Light is available for only $55 mail-order.  
If you need it, then buy it. Remember, like most utilities, FOPL is 
a non-trivial piece of programming that requires detailed knowledge of 
Macintosh internals (some undocumented) and the PostScript language 
and probably several person-years of programming, not to mention
testing on tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.  I seriously doubt  
a single programmer who had to worry about making a real living at the same 
time they were writing their code (i.e. 99% of shareware developers) could 
expect to pull this off.
Perhaps some kind soul with tons of money, knowledge, and time
will one day release freeware utilities that perform 
these functions; but I can't see any serious shareware developer expecting to 
make money from any of these.  

> It's unlikely that there's a shareware equivalent, considering that
> Adobe would charge a Postscript license fee for each copy sold.  Adobe
> would probably get upset if someone tried marketing a postscript
> interpreter via the shareware method.  This is why Postscript printers
> are so expensive -- because Postscript is a 'standard' that Adobe has
> a monopoly on.  (And I thought standards were supposed to make
> computing cheaper!  What was I thinking??!!)

	Actually a number of people including, I believe, the Freedom of the 
Press people, have written PostScript clones for which they don't have to pay 
Adobe a license fee.  There's also a port of the gnu GhostScript in progress 
but it's been "99% complete" for at least a year now so when, if ever, we'll 
see it is unknown.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07102
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for Nuntius manual
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:26:38 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EA5CCB1D012101@via.dsf4.merit.edu>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:30:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.142137.20753@mail.cornell.edu> Ray Zimmerman,
Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu writes:
>In article <mis_student-250992134210@137.202.64.97> Arjan van der Valk,
>mis_student@mentorg.com writes:
>>Can someone please tell me where I can find a Nuntius 1.1.1d7 manual?
>>Is it somewhere on a ftp site, or do I have to buy one?
>
>Sorry, I'm afraid that one does not exist as of yet.  If I'm wrong,
>somebody please correct me.

You're right, Ray. But someone has gone to the trouble to strip the
balloon help text into a readable file.  It's filed as
/info-mac/comm/nuntius-111-docs.txt at sumex-aim.stanford.edu
(36.44.0.6). Better than nothing. 

You can find the latest Nuntius (1.1.1d11) at the same site too. It has a
document with a few tips for use as well.

Jeff
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: preview postscript files
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:39:51 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

U26606@uicvm.uic.edu wrote:
: 
:     Does anyone know of a utility, public domain or other which will allow
: me to preview postscript files on my mac?

  There is GhostScript, a part of the GNU package i think. But it's not that
good. I don't know if it's been ported to Mac (it runs on X).
  There is another solution, BUY A NEXT, i've seen display PS,it's quite 
impressive.
: 
: send messages to greg at:  U26606@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: pedro@cs.mcgill.ca (Sandro MAZZUCATO)
Subject: PC floppies on the MAC
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:47:56 GMT


Hello 
      I don't know much about MACs. Someone I know is looking for a 
shareware/freeware program that will allow him to read PC disks on his MAC
He has LD and HD disk drives. Can anyone give me any ftp site
that I should look at .. and what for .

Thanks 

- Sandro
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: merlin@lerami.lerctr.org (David Hayes)
Subject: Re: Random Start Up Screens
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:04:33 GMT
Organization: Not Bloody Likely!

In article <yjc-300992140651@b61539.student.cwru.edu> yjc@po.cwru.edu (Jerome Chan) writes:
>  How can I randomise my startup screens? Is there a utility to do this?
>
>---
> The Evil Tofu

You want Screen Picker, an INIT from Joseph R. L. Simkins. You can get it
from America Online.

    David Hayes    merlin@lerami.lerctr.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Where did HD Partition INIT come from?
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17: 09:57 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:01:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.140747.27575@doug.cae.wisc.edu> Jong-Min Park,
jong-min@ie.engr.wisc.edu writes:
>I misplaced the DeskAccessory for HD Partition INIT and I'm not able
>to access my partitioned disk/files. I see that the partitioned file
>is an invisible file named 'InivisHD3bo..'. Where did HD Partition
>INIT come from? Is it part of MacTools, Norton Util, etc.? Please
>e-mail to jong-min@ie.engr.wisc.edu. Thank you.

In article <1992Sep29.195917.7536@udel.edu> Tyson Bower,
bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu writes:
>For the sake of users such as myself, I'd like to see a public reply
>relating to this question.  I've seen the 'InivisHD3bo..' file several
>times myself and have always wondered what its purpose is.  I've
>even thrown it away a couple times to see if anyone notices its
>gone.

HD Partition INIT and DA are from Symantec Utilities (SUM and SUM II). 
The partitions _MAY_ also be recoverable with Norton Utilities 2.0 (since 
it is partially derived from SUM II; don't quote me on this - I haven't 
checked into it).

The InvisHDbo... file is the soft partition, possibly encrypted and 
password-protected. Delete it and you will delete all files on that 
partition.

Soft partitions can be somewhat useful at times, but IMHO, the 
disadvantages greatly outweigh the advantages. For example, corruption of
the 
invisible partition file can kill the whole partition. Also, access is 
much slower than with a hard partition or unpartitioned drive, 
particularly when the partition is encrypted. There are numerous other 
issues as well.

Hope this info helps.

- John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu)
Subject: Re: PDA'S are flop
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:39:26 GMT

kriss@mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce) writes:
>BTW, I remember seeing an ad that had paper that you could print on to that
>was perforated to work in a Day Runner....anyone remember it??

The most recent version of Sidekick will do this.  I'm not certain it
came with paper, but it might even print the pages for you.  I have it
back home, so I could check, if you like.

Daniel
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