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From: roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Larry Allen Roscoe)
Subject: Re: Thought for the day...
Originator: roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:34:21 GMT

From article <1992Apr11.173828.24290@acsu.buffalo.edu>, by swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann):
> In article <1992Apr11.033832.17203@uwm.edu> roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>>From article <1992Apr10.133921.18826@acsu.buffalo.edu>, by swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann):
>>> 
>>> Posers.  You can't change 'em, but at least you can make 'em suffer.
>>> 
>>
>>Idiots.   You can't change their minds, but at least you can make 'em piss
>>and moan and bitch about something all day long.
> 
> Fools.  They need to smacked in the face with a smiley to get a joke.  ;-)
> 
> -- 
> Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
> swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC


Likewise =-)



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From: apfelbrianje@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: WANTED: DOKKEN NoES3 SOUNDTRACK
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:00:41 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Does anyone have a copy of Nightmare On Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors
SOUNDTRACK, by Dokken, on cassette?  If you're willing to sell it, please
e-mail me.

--BJA


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: Re: "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:54:32 GMT

Animesh Karna) writes:

  Bohemian Rhapsody is a typical over-the-top Queen song.  What I gather
  from the lyrics are that a guy killed a man, he's sorry, he's going
  to jail (or being executed), he doesn't want to, he rebels (heavy 
  part after the opera), then finally he has lost all hope (nothing really
  matters, anyone can see...).

  My humble opinion, of course.  :)  
-- 
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  email:  dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  any Queen/Spinal Tap questions answered 
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From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:25:10 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <74172@netnews.upenn.edu>
karna@pobox.upenn.edu (Animesh Karna) writes:

> does he really 
> say "Mishmilla!  No we will not let him go!

actually, i believe he says 'bismilla' which, if my memory serves me
right is an arab name for god. this would also fit in well with the
subsequent mention of beelzebub.

-kev.

slatanist@mac.dartmouth.edu
From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Manitoba's Kingdom
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:21:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Apr7.212101.5817


	Does anyone know if Manitoba's Kingdom is any good? I used to love
Manowar and heard the old members are in this band.
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Anybody listen to HELMET?
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:19:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr16.151936.10513
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr15.150111.3873@iscsvax.uni.edu> turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Does anyone listen to HELMET?
>
>If so, what does it sound like?

Heavy, but really tightly controlled.  It's almost more hard rock than metal.
The only comparison that I can think of offhand is that it's like old
Black Sabbath, sped up, and more rigidly damped (no ringing).

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: giant@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (ShadowKing)
Subject: Re: Slash is not a racist!!! (Get SUARON off this board)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:10:12 GMT

I>   When are the losers like this guy going to realize that just because  
someone
> considers Guns and Posers metal, it doesn't mean that it is  metal!  
There are
> a lot of bands that I like and listen to and that I may consider "heavy"  
but
> I am not going to post about them here because they are not metal! For  
example:
> The Beatles, Rush, Yes, Van Halen(old),etc...But even though I like  
these
> groups, they do not belong here because they are not metal.  
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> RSK113 @ PSUVM         "...And in her eyes, you see nothing..."-Paul
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>                        "...And we lived beneath the waves..."-Ringo
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Here we go again....  Who is this Almighty person who
defined what metal is?  Suaron?  People have varied
opinions ya know.  If I think Leppard is metal, I have
the right to post here.  I run the risk of the flames.
You can't draw the line that firmly - you can't tell
someone that one band is metal and another is not.
Maybe based on some definition you have, but until
there is some CONCRETE definition of metal, you have 
no right to say what is and what isn't metal.
What you believe may not be what the masses believe.





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From: v085pcqr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Slash is not a racist!!! (Get SUARON off this board)
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92100.173201TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes...

>I think you scared them Maple.  There probably already turning tails and
>running for alt.r-n-r.  All flea from Maple's wake...
> 
>--let's get, let's get, let's get some new lyrics
>  let's get, let's get, let's get some new riffs
>  let's get, let's get, let's get a new guitarist (who's alive)
>  let's get, let's get, let's get the drummer a new arm

oh, real original suaron, you're a regular "wierd al".  

and, no, we are not fleeing from Maple, or you-we're here whether you like it
or not, and we're here for the duration

alt.r-n-r.metal subscribers:  do not fear suaron or maple!!! continue to 
post about bands you want to post about, beit GNR, Def Leppard, or anything
that you yourself consider metal.  the only way suaron will be happy is if
they rename the group: alt.r-n-r.suaron, but then, who would post on it??

   /\_M_/\
  /MATTMAN\
 //\/\ /\/\\
      V
From: cthulhu@raybans.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Kupper)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: New forbidden/sacred reich
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:46:51 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


  Does someone out there know the titles of these new releases? Thanks for
any help!
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 21:06:26 EDT
From: Olias of Sunhillow <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Warrior Soul
Distribution: na

Warrior Soul is great progressive/industrial metal...

They are very liberal politically (as viewed in their lyrics), and really cool
all around musically...

They have 2 albums: Last Decade Dead Century, and the newer one: Drugs God and
the New Republic (not the magazine)

Check 'em out!!!
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Slash is not a racist!!! (Get SUARON off this board)
Keywords: bullshit
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:15:31 GMT
Organization: UB

v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL) writes:

>for the last fucking time, the disclaimer on the "GNR LIES" ep reads:

>"Ever been unjustly hassled by someone with a gun and a badge?  Maybe you've 
>been conned or had someone attempt to sell you stolen property and they just
>won't hake no for an answer.  Been to a gas station or convenience store and
>treated like you don't belong here by an individual who can barely speak
>English?  Hopefully not, but have you ever been attacked by a homosexual?
>Had some so-called religionist try to con you out of your hard-earned cash?
>Have you ever been banned or censored by a relatively small group of people
>claiming to be a majority with self-righteous and dangerous motives?  This
>song is very simple and extremely generic, or generalized, my apologies to 
>those who may take offense."

But keep in mind that very few people read the fine print on anything in 
life, even CD's/cassettes. 

Personally, I don't consider "My apologies to those who may take offense" to
be any sort of excuse to call blacks and homosexuals "Niggers" and "faggots",
respectively.

The "disclaimer" was added as a part of the "tabloid" cover. If he was going
for a tabloid-like look/attitude for the album, how the hell can we take his
little essay seriously?

I don't hate Guns N Roses. I have all four albums and like them. However, I
think Axl Rose is the biggest fucking hypocrite on the face of the earth.
How can you support someone who claims to care for his fans, then starts his
band's set 3 hours late? Most people do have lives outside music, but Axl's
either too caught up in himself to realize this, or he's too sexually 
repressed to stop jerking off or screwing groupies so he can go do what he's
making millions of dollars to do: TO GO OUT FOR A FUCKING CONCERT!

When Metallica and Guns N Roses do go on tour, I personally hope Metallica 
goes on stage first. Then, when their set is through, I can leave. And I'll
be willing to bet that I won't be the only one leaving before GNR's set.

--Don

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 02:26:31 EDT
From: <LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Suaron Stories #2

For the second installment of this thrilling saga...

Where the hell is Suaron? I don't think he's posted in two days...
is this a new record? Well, let's enjoy his absence and talk about
him while he's gone. :)

---
Larry Rossi    LPR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU

"And you'll see Vince Neil's head rolling down the Dragstrip spewing flames."
                                                             -Suaron
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Def Leppard (again)!
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:04:52 GMT
Organization: UB

villj00@DMI.USherb.CA (JONATHAN VILLIARD) writes:

>	I'd like to konw if the dead guitarist of Def Leppard was the
> leader of the band. Did he wrote a lot for them in the past albums?
> For the new album?

From what I heard, Joe Elliot and the rest of Ded Leppard used a Ouiji
board to get riffs from Steve Clark, since he did write most of the
riffs in the earlier days. However, when they heard these riffs, Rick
Savage was quoted as saying, "Well, they were good, but they weren't us.
I mean, we played them for a bunch of teenage girls from Brixton, and
they didn't jump up and down." They trashed most of the material in favor
of "Make Love Like A Man".

--Don

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather)
Subject: Re: Thought for the day...
Organization: Centre for Applied Obfuscation.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:12:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.141315.15870@acsu.buffalo.edu>, swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
[ > How about we quit this before it becomes like that casacade from hell ]

> that's been plaguing the other newsgroups?  ;-)
hats seen ploughing up mother's froot-loops

Too late!

Cheers,

Paul.

-- 
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If your mailer can't reach me, I'm obviously not worth talking to.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.thrash
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: lies, lies, liars
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:50:51 PDT



To save us another lengthy trading off of quotes:


I recognize that Metallica do not have that much influence over the marketing
of their records.  However, they do have control of the sound, and now they
definitely have more control (even before Metallica), having made a number
six-selling album.

Of course, everything is subjective.

Their new album is simpler and not as innovative.  However, it is catchier to
the ear, much as was "Harvester of Sorrow" off of AJFA.

The choice of Bob Rock is important because he produces pop albums, which have
different production values than metal albums.  Flemming's production wasn't
great, but he did a respectable job on the first three.  They could have
picked, say, Alex Perialis or Rick Rubin.

The lyrics I heard by Guns and Roses sound racist to me and many others.  I am
not a PC freak, but racism and homphobia seem to be great injustices to me that
merit constant combat.  It is in our nature to fear and then hate that which is
different from ourselves.  My point is that if Axl wants the people out there
listening to his lyrics who happen to be awake to agree that he's not racist,
then he should yank the song.

I never made an argument that these lyrics somehow twist people, no matter how
hard you tried to portray my arguments as such.  You seem to be a formula
debater.

Now I have left you a message saying "We Agree to Disagree."  There seems to be
no point in fighting a circular argument, no?  When it all comes down to
subjectivity, why should I sit around and listen to you try to insult me?

I've been in far worse on BBS's and fought it to the conclusion, but there
never is a conclusion.  All involved just leave pissed off.

So leave me now, little man.
From: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: DOKKEN?
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:21:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr7.152122.25041
Reply-To: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr5.210115.2884@vax.muskingum.edu>  
ti_hunt@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.184409.19072@athena.mit.edu>,  
masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya) writes:
> > I heard that Mick, Jeff and Don are back together, trying to convince  
George 
> > to play for some kind of a reunoin tour or something. Of course,  
George doesn't
> > like the idea, but they're trying. They might tour the US and maybe  
Japan if
> > George gives an OK. I hope so... seriously.
> > 
> > -Masa
> 
> How can that be if Lynch Mob are in the process of making a new album?
> Where did you get your info?
> It would be cool 'cause Dokken was rock'n!
> 
> Tim H.

	Lynch Mob has already made the album and according to the release  
dates posted in this newsgroup it will be released on April 28 - three  
weeks from today.  You can count on  me to be one of the first to be in  
line.  Masa, I hope what you said is true.  I would love to see Dokken  
back together and touring.  Also, check out the May issue of _RIP_  
magazine for a short article on how George Lynch and Don Dokken started  
talking again (They met at a five-year RIP birthday party and then  
backstage at a Metallica concert).
					
						MJD
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The sirens are screaming and the fires are howling
Way down in the valley tonight
There's a man in the shadows with a gun in his eye
And a blade shining oh so bright
There's evil in the air and there's thunder in the sky
And a killer's on the bloodshot streets
And down in the tunnel where the deadly are rising
Oh I swear I saw a young boy
Down in the gutter
He was starting to foam in the heat

				Bat Out Of Hell - Meat Loaf
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:6600 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:1171 alt.thrash:803
From: malouin@engin.umich.edu (Curt Malouin)
Subject: Re: Body Count
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:32:14 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <BMp+Gz_@engin.umich.edu> jfine@engin.umich.edu (Sinister Stairs) writes:
>    "Rock Box", _Run-DMC_ by Run-DMC
>    "King of Rock", _King_of_Rock by Run-DMC
>    "Jam Master Jammin' (remix)", by Run-DMC
>    "Walk this Way", _Raising_Hell_ by Run-DMC w/ Aerosmith
>    "Raising Hell", _Raising_Hell_ by Run-DMC

They *definitely* do it better than anyone else.  Jay's the DJ for it,
too--he lays low, but his musical sense is better than any other jock.

>    "Iron Man", by Sir Mix-a-Lot w/ Metal Church

The "Urban Street Mix", yeah.  The other mixes are rather bland.

>    "Bring tha Noize", by Public Enemy w/ Anthrax

Ugghhh! Did they really spell it like this?!?  Talk about crossing
over--at least the original was respectfully titled "Bring the Noise."
I have a few problems with this track.  The Anthrax guy can't rap,
and shouldn't be trying to do Chuck's lines.  The breaks are wack
(someone from rock-n-roll.metal can translate for the folks over
there)--the cut doesn't drop on beat (and still they have the nerve
to mention Terminator X is the DJ).  I haven't seen the video since
it came out, but there was someone who, to the casual eMpTyV viewer,
would appear to be scratching, but was doing nothing of the sort.

Props to Sinister for his Bodycount review, I'll save my money.

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From: exurln@avata.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: M.Friedmanns Dragons Kiss any good ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:58:24 GMT
Reply-To: exurln@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr02.212336.24826@infoserver.th-darmstadt.de>, wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!) writes:
|> I wonder if anyone owns/or has an opinion of Marty Friedmanns Solo
|> effort Dragons Kiss. Is it worth (from over here) waiting three months
|> until the import CD arrives and paying $20 ? 

The most important question is do you like Arabic scales ?  If not then run
away from this one as fast as you can.

I have this and Becker's "Perpetual Burn" and prefer Friedmanns.  If you like
very clean fast playing (Malmsteen or Moore) then these may disappoint you.
While there is a lot of fast playing, a lot of it is sloppy and when too
much is going on becomes a little noisy.

|> 
|> Is this another self-indulgent lick-after-lick record
|> like for instance Vinnie Moore, or something you can actually enjoy
|> songwise like Chris Poland or Satriani ?

Never heard Poland's work but this is *certainly* no Satriani.  What is the
problem with Vinnie Moore ?  I think he is the best of the neo-classicalists.


I paid $12 direct from Shrapnel (I can give you their address if you want) and
feel that I may have paid too much.  For $20 they could keep their disc.

Bob

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From: osickey@fe528.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew J. O'Sickey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: celtic frost/suaron
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:13:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45746
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <92106.090404BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu> BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <92106.022631LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>>For the second installment of this thrilling saga...
>>Where the hell is Suaron? I don't think he's posted in two days...
>>is this a new record? Well, let's enjoy his absence and talk about
>>him while he's gone. :)
>>Larry Rossi    LPR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>Maybe Penn State took the liberty of eliminating Suaron's account, doing us
>all a large favor... (well, we can only dream...)
>Brian K. Chopp  BKC100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU

    just imagine if penn state had no computers...half of the group
    would be gone.

    Can someone mail me all the salient info about celtic frost,
    lineups, albums, what happened to them...

      thanx

               azrael

-- 
"You should have listened to what Christ had to say"--Savatage

any savatage lyrics are always appreciated at osickey@fegate.cc.purdue.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 11:38:25 EDT
From: <LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Important: Please Read

  Living on the same floor as Suaron, I feel sort of obligated to
tell you all the following news. No one had seen him for several
days....he went home (tuesday I believe) for some family affair.
Today his parents came and cleaned out his possessions from his
dormatory room. I figured he had withdrawn from school, and I asked
his parents when he was coming back. His mom replied flatly, "He's
not coming back, Tim's dead." Needless to say, I was shocked and didn't
know what to say, so I left. Later, Tim's roomate told me that he
been killed when his car went off the road wednesday night. The
police report said that he was high as a kite on weed, and it may
have even been a suicide. I don't know. Tim doesn't have a lot of
friends at school, or on the net apparantly, and I'm very upset
to see this happen this way.
   Go ahead and flame me if you don't think I should have posted this,
but Suaron was such an integral part of this group that I thought
you all would want to know this.
   So flame away Nimpy, heavy metal must have killed him, right?

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Larry Rossi                     | "I screamed for the devil to let me be
LPR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU            | "I called to the heavens to set me free
Pennsylvania State Univiversity | "Today I prayed for the answer and not one
                                | "Of the gods in the sky would rescue me"
                                |                          -Kansas
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From: bhf35669@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brody H. Finney)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: SLAYER Lyrics!
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:21:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr17.202140.467
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Actually "Aggressive Perfector" was the first Slayer song released.  The       
original version first appeared on the "Metal Massacre III" compilation in
1982, I think.  There is also a live version on "Live Undead" and it also
apperars on early cassette versions of "Show No Mercy"