HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:52:33 GMT

In article <2244@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)  
writes:
=>]Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
=>]
=>]
=>]	What would YOU do ?
=>]
=>]	CH
=>]-- 
=>
=>-- 
=>
=>--
=>Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
=>Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

Er, Joe, forgot what you were going to say??? Sheesh... don't keep me in  
suspense!

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From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:50:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.022231.8807@news.columbia.edu>, scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>         Not me. I have a shaft drive bike, and it counter-steers just fine.
>         Maybe you haven't been pulling on the bars in a manly fashion...

Pulling?  And here I thought the skill involved *PUSHING* the bars...

- Roid
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From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Subject: Re: Leaning
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:46:09 GMT

In article <moseley.55.714264107@u.washington.edu> moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
>
>I haven't noticed any problems with left hand versus right hand turns, but I 
>get intimidated by downhill turns. The steeper the turn, the harder time I 
>have with extreme lean angles. I'm sure part of it is the increased 
>tendencany to accelerate through the turn,  but I think most of it is 
>psychological. Most of my peg scraping seems to happen on uphill turns.
>
I used to have the same problem. In my case looking through the turn further
(means lifting your head more when your on a downhill hairpin) and trusting
peripheral vision to guide me made all the difference.
	Does anyone else have trouble using peripheral (sp?) vision to avoid
objects/potholes on the road? I've found that I have to first look at it and
recognise that I have to avoid it, and then I can use peripheral vision to
guide me around it. If I don't look at it first I can't "see" it with my 
peripheral vision.
	Is it just me, or does everyone else have the same problem?


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mvij@novell.com (Manish Vij)
Subject: Re: Restored 1969 MGB-GT for SALE!
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:46:25 GMT

(STOLEN FROM CAGERS.ANONYMOUS, i.e. ba.market.vehicles):

In article <bdlu02Ii1dby01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> Paul@ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>
>                               FOR SALE!!!
>
>                    Beautifully Restored 1969 MGB-GT

				[Stuff deleted]

>	I spent the last 8 years restoring this awesome car, now I'm 
                                                             ^^^^^^^
>        getting married and need money.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is this a trend?  What the hell do people do when they get married that
possesses them to dump their rides / vehicles of choice?  I say strap
the SO on the back and take off for the mountains!  How's that for a
cheap honeymoon?
                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
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From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Re: mcy Insurance companies
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:39:30 GMT

Bruce Martin
White Plains, NY

Westchester County.

< 400 lb = $54/year liability
> 400 lb = $110/year

got a quote for theft on a '90 Duc 750 Sport ($5000) - $400.

So far I own no bikes wich require collision or theft coverage.

Stef

	     DoD#0190		              spgo@is.morgan.com
	'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:10:52 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Thursday August 13 1992 21:53, Joe Senner wrote to All:

 >>  SG> Yeah, but don't they catch that on the VIN?
 >>
 >> You MUST be kidding?

 JS> who, me? I didn't say I got it, I said I got a quote. no doubt the
 JS> shitheads at the home office would have caught that one. I stayed
 JS> with dairyland at $850/yr (I shop around at renewal time just in

Joe, I was commenting to the rookie who thought an insurance company could
reverse-engineer the make/model from a VIN number, not your insurance quote.

Hell, I only paid $370/year for full boat insurance on my ZX-11, and I told
my company it was a ZX1100C1 which is right off the pink slip under "Model".
Said insurance company just paid me off better than book on my poor totaled
(ha!) moto, enabling me to sink another fortune into it and reincarnate it
badder than ever. Wanna bet next insurance policy is only $350/year for full
coverage on it????? Anyone can do it, you just have to live long enough to
be over 40, and not have any DMV record or recent (read: remembered) losses.
Or, I might just get liability and self-insure the comp/coll/theft. Another
benefit of being over 40 is a higher probability of having enough money to
REALLY self-insure when you say you are going to. :-)

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
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ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
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From: amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr)
Subject: Corbin Gunfighter saddles
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:47:56 GMT
Organization: U of Kentucky, Computer & Mathematical Sciences Division

I am about to order a Corbin Gunfighter saddle for my 87 CBR1000 and
thought it would be wise to post and get your opinion on this product.
If you have been riding with a Corbin seat, I would really appreciate
your comment on the comfort/discomfort & advantage/disadvantages of
the seat.  How about the appearance and quality of Corbin saddles?
Please send mail unless you think others will benefit if you post
to the net.  As always, many thanks in advance and good wishes.  Amir-

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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Yielding right of way(tailgaters).
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:13:13 GMT

hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:


>	ONE experience I had with tailgaters in New Brunswick (CA) was
>	infuriating.  These two assholes(tm) were right up my hole(tm)
>	in a camaro (btw, MOST Camaro/T.Am/IROC-Z/etc drivers fit some
>	weird sort of asshole(tm) stereotype).

	I fear Camaro drivers more than minivan or Volvo drivers.  With
the latter, I know they're going to ignore me and I can prepare for the
inevitable dumb stunt on their part.  With the Camaro driver, he just
might do something hazardous to me on purpose, and it's harder to
predict what malice can dream up.

>	Aside:  Some of the US netters are saying that if you stare at
>	Mr. Tailgater, you may get the slug in the forehead deal.  Maybe
>	that's why I like living in Canada, no handguns in every glovebox.
>	I think one netter said he had a gun with him on his bike?  Yikes.

	I've carried on the bike, and usually have a shotgun or rifle
in the truck.  My guns are still safer than Ted Kennedy's car, so you
need not worry about them.

	I did shoot a Camaro once, a tale I told long ago.  It was one of
the most satisfying things I've done, now that I think about it.  Ranked
right up there with various incidents involving high explosives.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >


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From: bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN)
Subject: Re: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:51:17 GMT

In article <25578@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>        What about trying to talk to the guy for example ? With a few well chosen
>words you can make him feel very miserable. There are other ways than pure
>repretion like this, and especially vicious denounciation like what you've
>described.

>        JNM

Yeah, right -- go out there with a sweet "Come-to-Jesus" smile and try to 
reason with some cross-eyed drunken bozo in cager full of his mates all 
popping liqueur-farts into the seat-covers.   At best you'll get fucked 
around and ignored, at worse they'll try to rearrange your face with a 
broken bottle.	Call the cops, they get paid to handle this type of problem: 
too many good people are killed and maimed by these bastards to do otherwise.

Keith
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Liberals,Conservatives (was Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint)
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:20:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <10481@wrgate.wr.tek.com> davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.210119.25008@isc-br.isc-br.com> steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:

>>Who wants to be your mother? Liberals? Conservatives? 

>   And the answer is: THEY BOTH DO.

>  Please do not reduce this forum to a stupid Dems vs Reps argument.  Go
>home and watch the convention on TV.

And after you vomit, clean up and call 1-800-637-1776 and find out
about the Libertarian Party.

Sorry, I just can't help it.  I'll try and refrain from further
politicking on party lines in this newsgroup.
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From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: BMW Service Gouge?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:18:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Aug17.235049.4791@serval.net.wsu.edu>, bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu 
(William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
|> 
|> The 600 mile service is manditory to maintain your warranty.  It is an
|> absolute necessity.  

By this do you mean that the dealer must do the work or just that it must 
be done?

When Grechen needed her first routine checkup, I did it myself.  The dealer
had no problem with that and assured me the warranty would still be valid
as long as the work got done.  Maybe it's a trust thing and different 
dealers would have different answers. 


In article <1992Aug17.181639.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
writes:
|>
|>I like the bike very much I was a bit taken back when the bill for
|>my 600 checkup was $260.00.

Too late to do the first service yourself, Jim, but consider it for the 
following checkups. Of course, I like that sort of thing, it may not be 
your mug of brew. 

Way back in '86 the 600 mile service included changing engine oil and 
filter; changing gearbox, rear drive, and fork oils; checking and adjusting
valve clearances; checking adjustments of the controls; and retorquing a
bunch of nuts and bolts. Nothing terribly exotic - $260 does seem high.  
Did you get an itemized list of what was done?  What did it include?

The only part of the routine checkups I don't do is adjusting Gretchen's 
valve clearances, because I don't have the tools for changing the shims,
and I don't want to pull the cams.  Besides, the dealer here charges about
$35 to check and adjust them.  The tools are about $65; I could buy a set
for future use, but I don't know if it's worth the trouble.

Here's a wish for dry weather in Washington.

-- 

   Pooder  -  Rochester, MN     DoD# 0591 - LotN (Loser of the Number) 
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  "What do *you* care what other people think?" -- Richard Feynman 
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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: <None>
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:45:02 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

since so many of us need coffee and we have similar space problems on
mcys, i crossposted this from rec.backcountry.  for jousters, this should ring
a familliar bell. 

In article <1992Aug12.164700.29244@midway.uchicago.edu>, rtp1@quads.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert) writes:
> Of course, all this interesting discussion aside, there is only one
> TRUE and APPROVED (tm) way to make coffee in the backwoods....
>
> Variant: Cowboy coffee.  Just keep boiling.  Throw in a hoss shoe.
> When the hoss shoe floats, it's done.  Serve with lots of
> sugar and red likker.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Perhaps, I have overestimated Mr. Small's intelligence
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:07:14 GMT

In article<RKOU.92Aug16132509@corvus.ucs>, rkou@nunki.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou)
stutters:

   [drivel, better taken to email (or never uttered), deleted until ....]

     >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:54:48 -0700
     >To: <rkou@nunki.usc.edu>
     >   ----- Transcript of session follows -----

     >550 <alt.want.moslem.gay>... Host unknown
     >Subject: I'm a loser
     >Sender: rkou@nunki.usc.edu

     >I just wanted to tell the world, that I am a pathetic loser.
     >My mother was an uptight bitch, that's why she had me.
     >Oh, by the way, could someone tell me where I left my hamsters
     >and duct-tape?

roger, ye of little money:

see what you can do about deleting the rest of the excerpted articles, as they
are currently being appended to the end of your article.  in their entirety.
nearly as horrible a waste of bandwidth as your text.

the tip on reception of your articles, eh, is that, humm, if we were enjoying
them, eh, we might actually say something polite.  humm.  eh.  and i don't
think you'd *need* the duct-tape.


obmoto: the original thread here was advice on honda scooters (helix and ?).
i have none.  wasn't it rosann that did some research before she and her
roommate got twin helixs/helices?  hey, rosann!  answer this guy, please.

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
| I would get a little stiff/sore somewhere around 6-8 hours, depending on |
| the # of breaks, etc... Ann says she never got sore even on 10 hour long |
|        days.  She did better than I did.       --  Keith Schauer         |
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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmets and Motorcycle Fatalities
Date: 13 Aug 1992 18:11:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article l8jmknINNku5@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM, rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (rja@sun.com) writes:
>
>    Watch: soon we will have a mandatory leathers law.

In California?  not.

---
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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Organization: Sophomore, Metallurgy and Materials Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:55:51 -0400 
From: "Carl D. Lovejoy" <cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Timbuktu Jacket
	<Bsw1s7.D13@wpi.WPI.EDU>    

 mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) Rambles:


>Somewhere, Sometime, Thus Spake cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy):
>:- 
>:-     I have a brand spankin' new Hien Gericke Timbuktu jacket for sale. 
>:- It has only been worn once by a little old lady who rides a Low-Rider.
>:-  [...]   
>:-     I payed $280 for it but am willing to part with it for $230 obo.  
> 
> 
>	WHAT!!! (sorry bob) ... NO RAFFLE??????????????
> 
> 
>'''---```---^^^^^^-----#-----~~~~~----'''------~~~~-----````~~~---------=\ /=
>.sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one  :  Ravi Narayan, CS, WPI   (0)


    Well I guess i could raffle it but you may not like the price of the
ticket.

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From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Subject: Re: Engine tuning problems!
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:28:43 GMT

>
>4.  is the air filter oiled properly?  not enough oil = running too lean.
>
That reminds me, what is the recommended oil for Vance & Hines air filters?
Or should I just use lemon pledge :-)
Tim.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Kevin
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:17:53 GMT
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Aug18.001625.13320@microunity.com>, ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:

|> You can actually GO places on a motorcycle, even a small one.  A 
|> scooter's only fit for short hops that you could do on a bicycle. 

Tell this to the woman with a Helix who was in the ERC class with me.
She had just come back to Minnesota from a two-week jaunt to the west 
coast on that Helix.  She said she always wanted to keep riding when 
her husband on his Goldwing wanted to call it quits for the day.  

-- 

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: laywer
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:22:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug19.152203.19584
Distribution: rec
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <RKOU.92Aug16184056@skat.ucs> rkou@skat.ucs (Roger H. Kou) writes:
>
>humm, (big pause) you folks (big pause) think (pause) I am going
>to get (pause) a laywer? (pause) what's the matter? insecure about
>(pause) your lifestyles? (pause) or you just don't like the fact

What's with all the "(pause)"s?  Tell your dog or cat to keep its
paws off your keyboard.


>you don't have to like it, you know? FYI: i don't do 4letter-w**d.
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^


I think there's another newsgroup for 4-wheel-drive vehicles.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
	So just where did George Bush get the idea that he gets to
			decide policy for the U.N.?
From: ptar@junkyard.asd.sgi.com (Pierre Tardif)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:52:20 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <13335@pogo.wv.tek.com>, kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin
Mills) writes:
|> In article <jcn.713568008@helix> jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
|> writes:
|> >
|> >So I stuck with Dairyland, who after only one year gives me a
|> discount 
|> >for being a "preferred" rider or some such designation, and I only
|> have 
|> >to pay $272/year for comp and liability.
|> 
|> I'm curious...I just bought my CBR600F2 and I'm paying $204 a year
|> for
|> comp, coll, liab, and uninsured motorist (basically full coverage
|> sans 
|> medical).  And that rate is going to drop to about $135 a year
|> next
|> January when my final ticket falls off my record.  Now I'm 25 as
|> well
|> and this seems like a very reasonable rate.  This is through State
|> Farm, and the reason it is so low is that I also insure my cage
|> through
|> them.  It turns out that full coverage for both vehicles costs me
|> less
|> than it would for the bike alone.  State Farm will not insure
|> bikes
|> unless you insure a car as well. 
   ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^^

This is what your agent is telling you. It is not a State Farm policy.
I have motorcycle insurance with State Farm and I don't have a car.

ptar
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: DarkMan for President
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:39:25 GMT


Seeing a need for such, I have decided that I will run for President
of the United States of America.

I have all the important qualifications:
	A motorcycle
	I like to drive (fast)
	I'm not Bush
	I'm not Clinton
	I'm not Perot

All you have to do is get my name on the ballot in all 50 states.  Oh, and
re-write the constitution.  I'm not quite 35 yet.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
Anyone know where a mechanical engineer can get a job?
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