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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: the nth day of xmas (by induction)... / Marek+Marie
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:18:06 GMT


		the nth day of xmas (by induction),
		featuring fucking, tabouli and santaism,
		as well as gouging a certain poetess' vowels
		with table knives made of purest damascene steele
		-------------------------------------------------------------

		well, it was like this.
		we lived in eternal bliss, from day to day,
		from lay to lay, from kiss to kiss.

		and then the inevitable happened...

		the christmas shopping season came in our face
		like a good man-to-man defense
		or lace leggings apace
		strung on a long-legged woman
		bearing disgusting intentions
		of priceless lovely gifts
		you cannot buy at marshall fields.

		it was then we gave up on tabouli
		and peace in central europe
		also on certain dweeby acquaintances
		of debatable value.

		it was christmas shopping season
		and we were sharpening our flatware
		with intent to maim, abstaining
		from sacrifice only by the superior
		power of will, the hysteria in our pail,
		and the fear of twenty-five to life.

		it was christmas and we felt like puking
		all over it.  in honor of winter solstice,
		the ceremony of purging
		the circumstance of shrinking

		to the very smallest, darkest, holiest.

		but most of all, we wanted to throw kerosene
		on every fat man in a red suit
		twice if he's ringing a bell
		and light them, mongolian beef,
		candles on the beefcake and cheesecake of commercialism
		idiot symbols, symbol-idiots

		the fake, the useless, the few.


			Marek Lugowski / Marie Coffin
			14 December 1992
			Chicago, Illinois / Ames, Iowa

Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
From: jww@evolving.com (John W. Woolley)
Subject: Mail me?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:58:17 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
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I, through no very real fault of my own, missed r.a.p. from
about 12-7 through 12-14.  If you posted anything particularly
good, I'd like to see it.  Email?  Thanks.
-- 
Fr. John Woolley (jww@evolving.com); vastly enthusiastic about Augustine,
Austen, babies, Bach, backgammon, baseball, beer, the Bible, Botticelli, Burke,
Chesterton, Dante, Dixieland, hardboiled, Hitchcock, Dr Johnson, Latin, Mozart,
Shakespeare/de Vere, St Teresa, Tolkien, Trollope, Fats Waller, and Washington
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:28:20 GMT
Subject: Re: being playful, not a poem, not a comment, just a funny picture
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems

In rec.arts.poems, sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy) writes:

> 
> The idea of grammar as technology has turned out to be so fun because
> I have imagined a spy thriller suspence with black coated linguists named
> Tom stealing grammers from foriegn* countries. sleek yawnings, signaling.**

Perhaps titled _Polyglot games_?

> 
> When will Tom Clancy make a novel? (unfortunately I can't make myself
> read any of his yet, but I bet he has fun doing the research for them)

Don't waste your time reading Tom.  It is pabulum.
Of course, if you happen to like pabulum, it might be quite satisfying.
I suspect that your reading list is somewhat more filling...


doug
From: davisd@ucs.orst.edu (David M. Davis - Public Safety)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Lost poem...help
Summary: I wrote it, I lost it...
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:03:02 GMT
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Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
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Hello,
My name is David Davis and about two years ago I posted
a poem to this group. The theme was about the Ethernet
and it was written like Jabberwacky. The first stanza
was:

Twas blinky and the garbled text
Did flicker briefly on the screen
All used up was the sector disk
And sysop eyes were narrow green

Beware the Ethernet my son
The protocols that bind and catch....

And here I loose it. I have lost my copy of the poem and
I wondered if any of you had saved it. If so can you send
me a copy? My address is davisd@ucs.orst.edu. I don't read
r.a.p. anymore, so Email would be best.

Thanks so much,
David Davis
davisd@ucs.orst.edu
 
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From: zola@hardy.u.washington.edu (riene des tournesols)
Subject: Re: not poetry, profanity, and general disgruntlement 
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:17:28 GMT

 nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:
>
>Gee, who is this intolerant self-proclaimed blowtorch bitch person?
>I would caution you: the sort of discourse you espouse tends to
>discourage neophyte poets from posting on r.a.p. There may be
>a grain of relative truth in what you say, but remember that you may 
>actually harm some incipient creative sensibilities. 

hahaha.  ok Philip, yes yes.  but the difference was that you were 
attacking someone who may or may not be used to the tone of the flames
around here, and we all know Marek is not only used to the flames, but
has several asbestos suits, one of which is rumored to be crotchless.

-zola. aka BB
From: stevem@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Metaphysical strangeness
Keywords: Black, gold
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:11:39 PST
Reply-To: stevem@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us


Black Dogs
or, Another Way of Looking at Nightmares

Do not be alarmed;
The black dogs have taken your lump of gold again.
If you look, then you can see it
Clutched in their leader's shining teeth.
The huge hounds swarm around you,
A black fur hurricane of panting singlemindedness.
Of course, you want the gold back;
Of course, you are bewildered,
Still, do not be alarmed - 
Perhaps they mean you no harm.

Try to learn their ways.
Try to observe their patterns.
If you have to, then get on all fours and howl.
Do whatever it takes to know.
Even try befriending them.
With time, something good is bound to happen.
Somewhere, deep in the forest,
When the dogs are nowhere nearby,
You might even find your lump of gold again - 
Where they have buried it in the ground.
From: hwajin@iphasew.com (Hwa-Jin Bae)
Subject: tell me if it hurts
Organization: Interphase West, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:13:27 GMT



	a city not a town
	-----------------

	westward the course of empire takes its way
	down in the people's park
	nobody finds it unusual to find
	a memorial for the late rosebud girl
	decorating competing posters:
	fuck freedom play ball
	play ball & support the police state

	contrary to popular belief
	pedestrians do not rule the streets around here
	only the cars with bumper stickers declaring:
	love your mother -- this is your drugs
	this is your drugs on your brain -- or
	a personal favoriate --
	u.s. out of berkeley

	in xanadu kublai khan decreed his pleasure dome
	rest of us reside here as bishops intended
	prefering instead chance encounters with locals
	call me ishmael reed waiting in line for
	straight no chaser
	a monkey's paw

	manhattan has its tribeca berkeley has oakland
	a shot and a beer costs $1.50
	an all day matinee $3.50
	a 3x magazine $11.50
	a pack of camel $2.50

	in warehouses yupped up beyond all recognition
	we pretend
	even better than the real thing
	just like a woman
	just like a little girl

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From: sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy)
Subject: Rewrite
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:45:34 GMT

oops, I sent this as a letter instead of posting it, pardon me
Michael.

Subject: rewrite of trimming, only a few words.  Paper, imagery, martin

I posted an article with "I try to cut out unnec. speaking from the
second paragraph:"


I've noticed a few mistakes in it, and my obsessive behavoir cannot
let me get away with them.

second take:

The ground is full of a thousand thousand lights from housing projects
that are all shaped alike

The night is beautiful on the third floor
No one is asking
the too-bright burnt orange sky? no.
What is beautiful, instead, the forrest of cricket legs
you hear on your back
the mattress is on the floor now,
too nosey on old metal springs
when you make love
squeck      squeck    squeck.
Complaining bed!
you are low, and the high window is more beautiful somehow.
Only listen to the sky glow
a million million people under you are waiting to be forgotten
hitting the ceiling, shouting
it is not their fault
you cannot walk out at night
through trees
The cricket is alone beautiful
for someone lying on her back
walk with me trees, if you want,
not talking to people for miles.

You want to go.
You are as interested in the world
as a drinking fountain in Intramural Fields is wonderful
when you run and get breathed.
and drink on purpose.




This poem requires a sequel from me. because of the passitivty.
Notice the occurance of the persona on her back.
Notice the isolation. I need a foil poem. I will write a foil poem.
a very busy loud crowded foil poem.

In case someone doesn't realize the significance of "on her back"
I will explain:

a women's magazine titled "Off our backs"

(I've read only one book, and only parts, concerning Lilith, but I will enjoy
people giving me furthur references) Lilith, Adam's first wife,
would not have sex with him because he insisted that she take
the inferior position. She refused, and told him she was his equal
She wasn't made from a rib, she was made from dust and refuse. and
so did not take sub(I can't remember the word) to him.

Anyway, I told Matt and he said he'd like a story with only two people
himself on his back. Funny him, maybe that will be the sequal to the sequal.
-- 
I am always wrong. Don't believe me ever.
stark raving sane  sheilah@wam.umd.edu
-- 
I am always wrong. Don't believe me ever.
stark raving sane  sheilah@wam.umd.edu
From: ch526@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Les Jensen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Someone Wrong (Poem - C&C)
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:53:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Someone Wrong

Endeavor is a failing tide
Crashing in the waves
Salt watered wounds burn in pain
The achievements it depraves

Wisdom is a casualty
Of neglectful engineers
So knowledge is reinforced
With uncertainties and fears

Imagination turn opaque
In a slimy, stagnant pond
Unaware that fantasies
Are able to respond

Intellect is just deadweight
Clogging old concepts
That transforms the simplest thought
Into something quite inept

And the individuality
Of true ideas are gone
Arrested by the convictions
Of someone who was wrong

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
All opinions, comments and advise will be gratefully accepted...
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Subject: Papa
From: marsee@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:06:33 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College



Sorry for all the posts, but my muse visited me this evening.
As always C&C are welcomed.

	Papa

 The constant 
 drip 
 of 
 water 
 against
 Papa's 
 huge metal sink 
 reminds me 
 of
 bath time 
 in 
 the 
 summer
From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Growing Up - A Poem
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:45:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1gsh5iINNt37
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And another one dredged up from the recesses of my mind.  I think you
can probably figure out that I don't exactly get thrilled by this time
of year.  Brings back too many memories.  Most of them unpleasant.


				Growing Up


			I do not blame you for my inadequacies
			although I could 
			for you were instrumental
			in their creation
			I should have stood up to you
			long ago
			insecurity 
			desire of approval
			prevented me
			I have spent a lifetime
			separating real from imagined
			innate from imposed
			actual from expected
			learning the differences
			accepting 
			and dealing with them
			insecure no longer
			knowing there will no approval
			nor desiring any
			knowing you will never understand
			nor accept
			I take my stand
			my first halting steps of growth


				December 12, 1992


				Kathleen O'Toole


-- 
*************************************************************************
"Insufficient facts always invites danger, Captain."- Spock in Space Seed
	Marg Petersen	petersm@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
*************************************************************************
From: marek@msel.unh.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: oh primary care-giver (a duet) / Marek+Marie
Date: 17 Dec 1992 06:24:24 GMT
Organization: UNH Marine Systems Engineering Laboratory
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Originator: marek@mermaid.msel.unh.edu


		oh primary care-giver (a duet)
		-------------------------------------------------------------

		my primary care-giver, my sweet
		i have paid my dues (to you)
		your coverage is so complete
		minus the deductible.
		 
		my dear subscriber, my sweet
		i am your primary care-provider
		i do your pap smears and revolt
		our readers, all at the same group
		discount prices.
		 
		i love you and your smarmy ways
		the way you dispense my prescription
		drugs and keep the magazines interesting
		in your waiting room racks.  i never tire
		of your indirect lighting and your
		courteous though harried staff.
		i laugh when i can
		find parking.  i am all yours, my exemplary,
		my sweetmeat primary care-giver.
		 
		i love you too, though i share this love
		amongst your fellow subscribers
		(and  amongst the many others that i desire).
		i give you my grateful thanks for your
		continuing patronage.
		i will work hard to lower your costs and
		remember: an ounce of prevention is worth
		a pound of cure.  signed, securely yours,
		your primary care-giver.
		 
		 
		        Marek Lugowski / Marie Coffin
		        5 May 1992
		        Cincinnati, Ohio / Ames, Iowa
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
From: dwall@active.UVic.CA (Dan  Wall)
Subject: Thank You
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 03:32:51 GMT

Grape, Thank You
Cow, Thank You
Potato, Thank You     
Apple, Thank You

Thank You.
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Subject: Bitburg
From: marsee@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:04:54 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College



		
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:20:22 GMT
Subject: Re: How to not make up something
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems

In rec.arts.poems, sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> (to the guy claiming the o'toole shit was boring or dumb. no, it's
> fun. the pocket business, Joe Green claimed that the 32 pockets were
> because of thiry two districts in Ireland (districts wrong word). but
> I later realized that the 32 pockets referred to the 32 holy marks of
> the Buddha (misspelled, not on purpose.) and that because Joe was revealling
> his holy marks, he was not a buddha, but because he was revealling his
> holy marks he was not revealing them, and was the buddha. especially
> since Joe denies this.)

Indeed, the persiflage was amusing.  But I imagine it sounded 
too self-important...

doug
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
From: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Subject: Re: Put on a big red tie
Reply-To: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:37:35 GMT

In article <379@uiunix.ui.org>, donz@uiunix.ui.org (Don Zirilli) writes:
> 
> 		Soft Pleas to Put On
> 		------------------------------------------------------
 
               [...lovely poem deleted...]

> re: the debate over 'fuck' in poems.  There is no problem with using 'fuck'
> in a poem or being vulgar in a poem.  The only problem is when a poet
> puts too much stock in the shock value of such words and doesn't bother
> doing anything else to make it a good poem.  The same problem occurs with
> words like soul and heart and love.  'fuck' is a dying word, and must be
> carefully used, just like the already-dead words I just mentioned.
> 
> -- 
> Chucklehead awaits the return of his .sig


Dear Chucklehead:  I think some of us are putting too *little* stock in 
the shock value of words like fuck.  And I *know* some of us are hoping
fuck loses its shock value entirely, so we can have a good solid 
anglo-saxon word for "engage in sexual intercourse", and so my mother
will stop blushing when she reads my poems.

Also, soul and heart and love are not dead words...they are still sharp 
knives, to be used with care lest the user find himself bleeding all 
over his cheese sandwich.


Marie Coffin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Lloyd Webber Top Ten Results
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:38:21 GMT


	I must respond to two things:

Jason, I wasn't criticizing you!  I don't expect you to post
something simply because I like it.  I was just saying that it
seemed odd that no one had the same views as I, and that I
would post my top ten just to let everyone know.  And yes, I
changed one or two of my choices.  Touchy, touchy!

Stefan
	What is this obsession with Song and Dance?  "Take That
Look Off Your Face", and "Unexpected Song" aren't bad little
ditties, but I'd would hardly consider them to be Top Ten
Material.  Oh, well.  Different strokes for different folks.

						-Quinn
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: sws8n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Stefan William Sittig)
Subject: Re: Lloyd Webber Top Ten Results
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:39:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.145853.786@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>
>	I don't think ANY of my choices were up there!  Out of
>pique, I'm posting my top ten in NO particular order
>
>Heaven on Their Minds
>Pilate and Christ
>Mermaid Song
>I Want To Be the First Man You Remember
>Buenos Aires
>Angel of Music
>Phantom of the Opera
>Past the Point of No Return
>Memory
>Old Deuteronomy
>
>	So there!  Incidentally, I like ALL of Webber's stuff,
>but I really disagree with the posted top ten.
>
>						-Quinn

I decided to follow Mr.McCord's idea and post my favorite top ten ALW songs:


	1) I Don't Know How To Love Him
	2) High Flying Adored
	3) Unexpected Song
	4) Memory
	5) Past the Point of No Return
	6) The Coat of Many Colors
	7) Close Every Door
	8) Take That Look Off Your Face
	9) Love Changes Everything
	10) Heaven On Their Minds

WOW!  I made another list to send to whoever was making the survey, but my list seems to change often.  I love JCS, and I think, "I Don't Know How To Love Him" is one of the most beautiful songs ever written.
						-Stefan
.
From: fwu@husc8.harvard.edu (Felix Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Need a crowd pleaser
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:55:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec17.105507.18609
Distribution: na
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Dec14.203343.8422@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>
>	If you want funny, I really like John Bishop's "Musical
>Comedy Murders of 1940".  It's not a musical, but it's a
>hilarious mystery-comedy.
>
>						-Quinn

I must concur. My high school did a production of this play as a faculty
play, so some of the humor and publicity was inherent in the production,
but I found it incredibly funny and well worth seeing.

Felix Wu
(fwu@husc8.harvard.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: sws8n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Stefan William Sittig)
Subject: Re: Aspects of Love
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:45:27 GMT

In article <101458@netnews.upenn.edu> ijgordon@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (<*Ian J Gordon*>) writes:
>In article <fwu.724001451@husc8> fwu@husc8.harvard.edu (Felix Wu) writes:
>>Aspects of Love is coming to Boston for a week in January, and with the
>>ticket prices a bit steep, I was wondering if anyone out there can give me
>>their opinions on the show. Is it worth shelling out $60 for? (For anyone
>>who's interested, tickets go on sale at the Colonial on Sunday (Dec. 13th)
>>at noon.)
>
>It will be in Philadelphia over winter break, too. Same question.
>
>
>--
>Ian J Gordon's quote of the week: It takes a big man to cry, and a bigger man
>				  to laugh at him.
>					-Jack Handey
I saw the Canadian production of ASPECTS OF LOVE at the Kennedy Center in WASHINDC.  I enjoyed the show tremendously, and I heard that it was very much scaled down from the original Broadway version.  The guy playing Alex had the most
amazing male tenor voice I have ever heard.  He actually sang that last note inin the song "Love Changes Everything"(I think it's an A or B) in full voice!
Not in head like Michael Ball does on the CD.  Anyway..I thoroughly enjoy this
sort of plot, very romantic and love oriented..bordering on soap-opera..and I
love Andrew Lloyd Webber's work so that helped.  It's a good show.  My Musical
Theatre professor calls it "Santa Barbara with music.."  Oh well.  I think it
is worth it's tickets price and I would see it again.
						Stefan
.


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From: wts@engr.latech.edu (W. Todd Singletary)
Subject: Re: I need lyrics... (and a message to Kelly M.)...
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:41:50 GMT

Grizabella (jordan@cs.tulane.edu) wrote:
: Also, message to Kelly Morrison....
: I tried to send you a message earlier and it bounced back to me. Maybe
: we're just having connection problems... anyway, I need to know what the
: name of the song is on the Premiere Collection tape that you made for me
: that is after Mr. Mistoffeles and before Superstar. It's all instumental,
: so I can't figure out the name or where it's from. Are you still at school?
: 

I know this isn't directed at me, but I know what you are referring to.
The name of that song is "Variations".  On the recording, it is listed as
"Variations 1-4".  Overall there are about 23 or so movements of "Variations".
I don't know much about it except that ALW's brother, Julian plays in it.

Hope this helps.

---

Todd Singletary
wts@engr.latech.edu


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From: nsh3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nadine S Harris)
Subject: Re: Need a crowd pleaser
Reply-To: nsh3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nadine S Harris)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:09:43 GMT

In article <1609@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
>Please give me suggestions for a sure-fire audience grabber type play.
>Preferrably a very funny comedy, preferrably NOT a heavily male cast.
>Should have good audience name recognition.  We need to put butts in 
>seats big time.  This is for community theatre.  NOT a musical either,
>and if it has low royalties that would be a big plus.  Thanks.


Hackneyed answer, but Pirates of Penzance.  Problem:  it does have
men, but lots of girls too, and five female parts, plus a few
speakers.  It is musical.  It usually always sells out.

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