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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Earth's Circumference
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 04:53:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

Dave,  I suggest we set our measurement of the earth up in this echo.  If you
get this send me a return message.

Lowell


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From: Warrick.Turnbull@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Warrick Turnbull)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: PIEZOELECTRICITY
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:08:12 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

HELP. I NEED A DEMONSTRATION FOR PIEZO-ELECTICITY, WHICH CAN EASILY BE SET UP IN A CLASSROOM.


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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Global Environmental Watc
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 22:30:42 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

Jack, thanks for your reply.  I've read some information regarding establishing Projects and I am following the guidelines that have been provided, although this was more by good luck than good management.  Basically you have to use the chat areas to develop the interest and get the thing basically functioning and then you can apply for a Project No (or so my interpretation of the guidelines go).  This makes some sense as you could go to all the trouble of applying and getting it set up and bingo!....it fa





lls flat on its face.  Because I live in the southern hemisphere I thought it would be of some interest to share changes at the occur at the same time of the year.  As I am going along it just fascinates more about how this global village functions and survives.
Thanks for the advice, and it has been good to get the moral support.
Cheers   Jimbo Down Under    8-)


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Distribution: world
From: mark@ultramac.uucp (Mark Hladnick)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:29:56 CDT
Subject: Re: chat

Hi,

	My name is Mark Hladnick and I just starting using this system about a
week ago. I would be interested if my messages are being received. Could
someone drop to see if I'm posting correctly?

	Thanks,
			Mark  Hladnick		mark@oui.com
From: Warrick.Turnbull@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Warrick Turnbull)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: JUNIOR SCIENCE
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:01:22 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

HAS ANYONE GOT GOOD IDEAS FOR INTRODUCING YR 7 STUDENTS TO
MICROSCOPES AND/OR CELLS.


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From: Gordon.Ramsay@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Ramsay)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: CHAT
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:24:54 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB


  Hi  I would like to welcome you to a great system. I have been on the 
system for a year or so and find it a great resource. I am from the Great 
White North (Canada). We have an educational network which has a gateway out 
to iNet. The part of this system that I belong to   has been organized by 
three Canadian provinces.   We are just 6 weeks into our new school year. I 
suspect that you are just ready for your summer vacation. I hope you enjoy 
your summer and thatt you become familiar with the e-mail. Drop a line of 
reply. 

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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Global Environmental Watch
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:14:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

Thanks Helen,  I saw the Weather Data information and have taken down the details.  We are having an unusually wet spring this year (Sept Avg normally 3.25 inches. This year sept- 7 inches).
Cheers  Jimbo Down Under


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From: Jay.Gaines@f6506.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Gaines)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: WINDOWS ON SCIENCE
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 09:32:53 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/6506 - BBS AMERICA/3RS BBS, Richardson TX

David:
Have forwarded your message concerning "Windows on Science" to our teachers area and hopefully one of the teachers will be able to provide you with a more informed answer than I can.
Sounds interesting.

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From: Jason.Evans@f70.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Jason Evans)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Global Environmental Watch
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 00:52:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/70 - The Teacher's Pet, Oklahoma City OK

I'm a 4th year zoology student at the University of Oklahoma, Norman, USA.  Here the leaves are just starting to turn and we've had a few 40 degree Farenheit days.  The most interesting thing to watch now in my opinion is all of the fox squirrels on campus gathering acorns for their winter stores.  I've still seen a few insects out and about but they are a lot less in number recently.  Well enough for now, I'll check back in at the first snow.
                                        Jason Evans



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From: Vicky.Mcalpine@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Vicky Mcalpine)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: junior science (chemistry)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:59:06 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Hello, 
     I would be interested in any suggestions for an interesting practical class in junior science - especially in the introduction of chemistry and chemical ideas ?


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From: dalvey@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Donald T. Alvey)
Subject: Re: Joint Education Initiative
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:36:11 GMT

wjohnson@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu  writes:
> Those teachers using CD ROMs in their classes should contact
> the Joint Education Initiative office at the University of
> Maryland.  The JEI office is establishing a clearinghouse for
> CD ROM technology (in science).  They can provide technical
> support to teachers using CD technology in their schools.  They
> also publish a newsletter (JEI News).  This is available at no
> cost.  If interested, contact:
> 
> email: wjohnson@earthsun.umd.edu
> 
> or
> snail mail:
> Joint Education Initiative
> 3433 A.V. Williams
> University of Maryland
> College Park, MD 20742-3281
> (301) 405-2324
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> William Johnson (Bill)                   wjohnson@earthsun.umd.edu
> Teacher Coordinator
> Joint Education Initiative
We purchased JEdI CD's, but as yet, have been unable to get
them up and running on our CD ROM.  Our system is a 486 BSR
outfit.  Do you have any suggestions for us?
From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Sphere Of Flying
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 20:00:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

GP>JA>...  Do these type of
GP>JA>conversation usually go from bad to worse ....
GP>Yes.  And in K12_LANG_A, they go from bad to verse!
Please! I was originally involved in this exchange.
Things will go from bard to verse, if you don't mind.  <6>
peter

 # SLMR 2.1 # Be contrapuntal -- keep puns out of tag lines.



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From: David.J..Nielsen@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (David J. Nielsen)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: WINDOWS ON SCIENCE
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 11:04:17 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Jay:
     Thanks for forwarding my request for info about "Windows on Science" to 
teachers in your area. I look forward to the response.

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From: bbrockwe@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Burt Brockwell)
Subject: Re: PIEZOELECTRICITY
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 04:03:42 GMT

You can get real fancy and try to find sopme strain gauges and
amps or you can get real simple and use an old record player
with a ceramic cartridge. I like the simple way unless you are
teaching a Physics class. If it is Physics, get a FISHER
Scientific Catalog and lokk there.
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From: Ruth.Ollie@p0.f25.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Ruth Ollie)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: MARS
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 11:34:05 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/25.0 - The Back Door, Venice FL

INCARNATION SCHOOL SARASOTA, FL.

GRADE 8

TOPIC: MARS



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From: Ben.Strohm@f5.n394.z1.fidonet.org (Ben Strohm)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: chat
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 11:49:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:394/5 - Ch A D D/K12net BBS, Hammond LA

Hello, My name is Ben Strohm. I'm new on this system. Please call me 
to learn more abot me

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From: Kirrilly.Pfitzner@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Kirrilly Pfitzner)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: science /environment
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:07:08 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Help is required with ideas on how to introduce moral principles of equality of species, and how teachers can help learners to understand and resolve the moral dilemmas posed by animal research.


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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: re: Arbitrary Techniques?
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 12:11:27 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

You must ask your Sysop where it is and if he/she doesn't have it, to 
please get it!  Let me know...thanks


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From: Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Middle School Math - Real
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 13:14:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

PD>I have been called upon to teach math to a group of eight graders whose idea
PD>of fun in math class is to skip the math and go outside to shoot hoops.  I

OK, how about basketball "stats."  How do we compare teams that
haven't played each other?  How do we decide which player has the best
shot?  If team A is to play team B next week, what are the odds of
team A winning?  Bettors may offer to take team A "and 12 points;"
what does that mean, is it a good bet and why?  A certain team has 17
players but can only field 5 at a time.  How many different teams can
they field?  What if one player is injured; then how many?  Supposed
two players are having a dispute and you want to field only those
teams that don't contain both players.  Then how many choices do you
have?

You had them equip an explorer.  Why don't you let them "buy" a ball
team.  Let them figure out two "dream teams" and then "play" those
teams against each other each week.  Let the students sort out how...
with some judicious help from you, of course :)

Assume that the outside basketball court is to be replaced with
concrete.  How much concrete?  How much will it cost?  Encourage them
to solve these problems as if they were real problems.  How thick
should the concrete be?  What does it cost per cubic yard?  Can it be
poured on the dirt?  If not, how much gravel needs to go under it?
What is the total volume of dirt that will be removed?  Let them work
in groups and figure out as much as they can with as little direct
help from you as possible.  They can call on outside experts:
architects, contractors, etc., just as easily as you can.  If you can
find an agreeable architect or contractor, you might have them in the
classroom for a unit on estimating and bidding.  How does a contractor
figure out what to bid on a certain project?  What does s/he have to
know and how does s/he go about finding out?


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From: Iain.Llewellyn@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Llewellyn)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: mathmagic
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:04:58 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Hi,
   I am interested in this mathmagic, but do not know very much about it at all. Would someone be kind enough to "tell"me what it is     and/or what it does ? Is it something that can be used at school? I would appreciate a reply.
                           In curiosity, 
                                         Iain Llewellyn


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From: Jim.Lagerquist@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Lagerquist)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Geometry???
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 19:46:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

I have a few questions regarding geometry instruction at the high school level.  My son is a sophmore and is currently taking first year geometry.  He has always done very well in school, including math.  He had a positive experience with pre-algebra as well as algebra.  Unfortunately, I can't say the same for geometry.  He attends class daily, listens to instruction, completes his homework, and studies for the quizzes and tests.  And yet, he currently has a low C/High D in the class.  He has met with both
 his teacher and a counselor about the situation and was told that this is a common occurence for students new to geometry and that things will improve if he keeps working hard.  My question is this -  should he and I accept this response?  If a student is doing all of the work shouldn't he be attaining at least a strong C?  Is it a common occurrence for a student tocome home with assignments that he claims he has not received instruction on the skills necessary to complete it?  And  last, but not least, I
'm concerned about the quality of instruction.  What do you suggest I do to try to improve the situation?
Thanks - Jim


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From: scamp5@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (SCAMP Demo Account)
Subject: Re: Memorizing Multiplicat
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:06:11 GMT

In responding to David Picard's original contribution to the
discussion on teaching/learning mulitplication facts, I have a
few reactions. I  agree with the presentation of the underlying
patterns to the multiplication facts, but I believe they would
benefit much more from their own discovery and creation of
those facts, rather than a teacher making them aware of these
magical secrets within mathematics.  Rather than the students
veiwing the existence of patterns as tricks, their exploration
and discover will help them see that patterns are a part of
mathematics.  I was surprised that so any of the responses
could only respond to your writing, rather than on better ways
to teach math.
		Keep teaching,
			Townley
s

s
From: Brian.Bridal@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Bridal)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: re: Arbitrary Techniques?
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 18:49:16 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

Hello,
 
I'm still at stage zero with this MathMagic. For some reason I cannot get any information...let alone, get involved. My students are interested in it but we don't seem to have channel 2 (unless I am going mad and I keep over looking it).
 
Anyway, ttyl
 
brian


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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: MathMagic--Channel 2
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 09:41:40 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

If you haven't discovered MathMagic yet on Channel 2, please give us a 
look.  The students are excited and motivated to participate.  The 
best part is that they are writing and thinking and problem-solving 
while enjoying themselves!  I'm here to answer questions about how you 
can get involved!  Let me know what I can do to help.  Look forward to 
hearing from you!  Carol


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From: wam@nynexst.com (Walter A. Manrique)
Subject: help - need formula
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:54:27 GMT

Does anyone know the formula to solve the following 
equation:
          3       2       1
       A X  +  B X  +  C X + D = 0

please, e-mail me the answer ....

Walter
wam@nynexst.com
From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: RE: ARBITRARY TECHNIQUES?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 21:01:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Brian,

You wrote to Carol Hooper:

-> For some reason I cannot get any information...let alone, get
-> involved. My students are interested in it but we don't seem to have
-> channel 2 (unless I am going mad and I keep over looking it).

May I suggest that you leave a message to your Sysop in a local area of
the BBS you use asking *if* and where Channel 2 is located? The rest of
us (Carol, me and others) can advise you about how you in theory should
go about participating in the project, but since we do not use the same
BBS as you, we cannot advise you whether Channel 2 is available to you,
or what conference number it is available under. Your Sysop is the best
one to help you there.

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
       

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: OOOPS                    
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 21:01:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

-> I just found the elusive 'channel 2' with the help of local talent!

OK, just disregard the last message.

Sheila
           

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From: jtb8j@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jerry T. Bryant)
Subject: Re: Memorizing Multiplication Tables
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:08:14 GMT

As Bonita White and I were reading these responses to
memorizing multiplication facts we did some reminiscing of our
own experiences as youngsters.  What got us started was reading
that where one person found 6 x 8 to be difficult another found
it particularly easy.  Bonita found that one easy because it
rhymed.  7 x 7 = 49 was easy for Bonita because no other
combination of multiplier and multiplicand could make 49.  I
found 3 x 8 = 24 to be difficult and peculiar because I saw 24
as already "taken" by 4 x 6.  3 x 8 = 24 seems odd and contrary
to this very day - to me.

Sheryl suggested asking students to share their methods of
multiplying.  Who, these days, could not agree with that?
Maybe a part of that could be not only sharing methods but also
idiosyncratic perceptions of individual facts or even groups of
facts.  This kind of sharing could supply students with some
powerful mnemonic devices - as what is odd, unusual or funny
captures attention and is more likely to be retained.
From: Paul.Dibiase@f31.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Dibiase)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Middle School Math - Real Life
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 19:23:35 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/31 - SEA/MAC, Seattle WA

I have been called upon to teach math to a group of eight graders whose idea of fun in math class is to skip the math and go outside to shoot hoops.  I would like to interest them in trying math by using projects and problems that have some real life value.  For example, last week they  went through catalogs to outfit a buddy going to the Amazon.  They had to  spend as near to $400 as possible without going over, calculate sales tax  and shipping.  I would appreciate any other ideas for interesting project
s that would help math-bored kids see the value in learning things  like decimals, fractions, geometry, measurment, ratio, proportion, percent, area, volume, permiter, graphs, statistics and probability.  yes, I know it's a long list but any idea on any topic will be appreciated.  Also is there a BOOK that has ideas for making math more interesting?  If so please let me know.  



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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: MEMORIZING MULTIPLICATION
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 10:21:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Grover,

I enjoyed your message about math/science teachers with poor language
skills and how that can be damaging. I agree. Math and science teachers,
and indeed, anyone with a degree should have adequate language skills
(although the reality is that some dont').

You should see how amazed my students are when I talk about grammar or
adjectives, nouns, subjects and verbs. I use their knowledge of grammar
to straighten out some of their misunderstandings in math. But boy are
they surprised that I know that stuff. I guess they figure that math
teachers just aren't supposed to know those things.

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                                    

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From: rrwood@canrem.com (limited shell account - Roy Wood)
Subject: UseNet access in your classroom
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 23:22:13 GMT

I'm currently working on some Macintosh software with the goal of providing
UseNet access in the Mac lab at school, and I'm curious as to whether anyone
else has done something similar on other platforms.  I'd like to hear how
well the kids have taken to mail/news, and what sort of pitfalls I'm likely
to encounter (e.g. posting of obscene messages, alt.binaries.pictures.erotica,
etc.).

Just for those who are interested, I'm going to use UUPC as the uucp agent
for a server machine, and ToadNews as the news unbatcher/expirer.  The kids
will be able to use a program I'm writing to "log in" to the server over 
AppleTalk, and then read/send mail and news.  For starters, I'll introduce my
computer classes to it and make it available before/after school, but I hope
I can eventually lure the non-technophobes from English, History, etc. into
getting involved with it.

-Roy