HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidmc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (davidmc)
Subject: Re: ALNs and Canadian companiezzzZZZZZ
Organization: The University of Calgary
	<1992Jul22.210729.17741@cs.ubc.ca>
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:59:22

OK, a quick (possibly dumb) question: Can ALNs be used to implement
recurrent neural nets? If so, how? If not, then how can they be used
to implement a TM equivalent program?
--
David McFadzean (davidmc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca)
Knowledge Science Institute
University of Calgary
Newsgroups: can.ai
From: graham@pluto.math.uh.edu (Graham Eatherley)
Subject: Introduction
Reply-To: eatherly@stam.qe.bell.ca
Organization: Bell Canada 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:18:34 GMT

Hi Guys!

Don't turn out the lights yet!  I'm new to the internet and so far
have only been acting like a loose vacuum cleaner (this is one of 
my first postings).  However, that is about to change.  After 25
years in the systems and modelling industry, I am about to go back
to school for some serious study (ouch!!).

I've been accepted at Carleton in the M. Eng. faculty and intend
to pursue studies and research in the AI area (I'm mostly
interested in ANS).  I've had some exposure to Geof Hinton and
his group at U of T who have given me some advice.  I've also
done a bit of experimenting with Xerion, SNNS and now the NeoCog-
nitron from Texas A&M.

I'd welcome any advice, comments, etc. from other Cdn researchers.
At this point, I'm trying to pick 3 courses from a short list of
about 20!  If you'd like to correspond, please note my reply address
is NOT my From: address (we have a fire-wall between the internet
and our internal WAN).  I'll eventually figure out how to fix that.

When I learn something useful and feel confident enough I promise
to contribute.

Cheers!
--                  ___
                   /                     Graham Eatherley
     __    _ __   /_   __  (___         Bell Canada
    /  ) /' /  / /  ) /  / / / )       Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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From: kean@cs.ubc.ca (Alex Kean)
Subject: Re: ALNs and Canadian companiezzzZZZZZ
Keywords: adaptive logic, connectionism, data analysis, pattern recognition
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:07:29 GMT

In article <arms.711832925@spedden> arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill Armstrong) writes:
>arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill Armstrong) writes:
>
>>Although quite a few Canadian university researchers are ftp-ing the
>>atree 2.6 code, it is disappointing that few Canadian companies are in
>>the lists we have kept of sites taking the code on Internet.  On the
>>other hand, we are getting plenty of email from foreign companies that
>>are interested in ALNs.  Canada now has, in ALNs, the best artificial
>>neural network technology in the world, but the benefits will go to
>>companies that use it, not to those who ignore it.
>
>OK, I guess I'm the last one in this group.  Better turn out the lights.
>Click!
>--
>***************************************************
>Prof. William W. Armstrong, Computing Science Dept.
>University of Alberta; Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6G 2H1
>arms@cs.ualberta.ca Tel(403)492 2374 FAX 492 1071

Nope, I am still here. Please leave the lights on. Glad to hear such
great product from Canada. Maybe you like to start a discussion about
ALN as many people, I presume, including myself are interested but do
not have enough knowledge about it.

Best Regards,

Alex Kean <kean@cs.ubc.ca>

Department of Computer Science           
University of British Columbia
6356 Agricultural Road,
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada V6T 1Z2

Tel: +1 (604)-822-4912
Fax: +1 (604)-822-5485


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From: landolt@nexus.yorku.ca (Paul Landolt)
Subject: Re: Chevron gas stations
Organization: York University
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:51:36 GMT

myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui) writes:
>This brand name exists in the USA, but not in Canada.
>I remember that it did at one time exist.
>What happened to it? Can we get Chevron products here in Canada?

Chevron is a chain that exists mostly on the Mid-west and west coast of
Canada and the US.  Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and Washington States all
have Chevrons, as well as British Columbia. 

These are the only states/procives that I know have them, since I went
through them on a drive to the west coast from Toronto.  Alberta, Oregon,
and California might have them as well.
-- 
J. Paul Landolt - CCS/ITS           | If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
York University - Toronto, Canaidia | ...unless you're a consultant  
+1 416 736 5257                     | ----------------------------------
InterNet: landolt@nexus.yorku.ca    | My opinions. All mine. So sue me.
Xref: sparky can.general:3485 can.politics:5451
From: audetf@Software.Mitel.COM (Francois Audet)
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: FLQ (was Re: French/English status after independence)
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:43:06 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article (CZ94000) writes:
>Denis had a posting recently on this topic.  I didn't understand
>it very well, but I gather that he views criticism of the FLQ as a
>form of Quebec bashing.

Why the hell is two isolated murders always given as example of
so-called Quebec nationalism, or violence in Quebec.

The half-dozen terrorist were convicted.
The RCMP was not.

To me, that's the most important piece of the puzzle in the october
crisis. When a government is free to place bombs, incendiate
buildings, spy on political persons, arrest anyone they want without
reasons and sent the army in the cities, you have to question yourself
about this pseudo-democracy. Is this so different from what exists in
the USA?


-- 
                                                       Francois Audet
                                                           '
                                      Telephone: (613) 592-2121 x1754
                          Internet: Francois.Audet@software.Mitel.COM
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics
From: audetf@Software.Mitel.COM (Francois Audet)
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: RACISM???/Access to English schools
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:41:36 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article (Steven C. Potter) writes:
>   Canada is not officially bilingual? - What? :-)

>    I want my children to learn French - AS A SECOND LANGUAGE!

So why do you live in a place where the FIRST language is the one you
want to be the second?

>   Wanting one's children educated in their own language when such
>   facilities exist at public expense is not Canadian nationalism. 

No, but the existence of these facilities versus the non-existence of
similar facilities (in french) in other provinces is a direct
descendent of the british dominance in Canada (over the francophones),
and is now called "canadian nationalism".

>   Are you saying that Quebec doesn't care if French is one of the official
>   languages of Canada too?

Why should Quebec care? No other province does.

>   The problem is that I am English, there are English schools available
>   at public expense (in my neighbourhood) and I do not have the right to
>   choose the kind of education that shall be given to my children.

You came to Quebec. When you emmigrate somewhere, you are suppose to
accept the rules of the place. If you don't want to, why go in the
first place.

>   I am counting on it. If I fail (you will probably be pleased to hear) -
>   if I fail I will go back to Europe. I will not have my children suffer
>   discrimination because their parents speak the wrong language!

Well, do so. Europe is not anglophone you know, so you will be
confined to Great-Britain (unless you want to send your kids to
non-public-funded schools).

>   English is not an official language in Spain.

Neither is it in Quebec: it is in Canada. Canada is a federation of
states (called provinces), and so will (maybee?) be Europe. Each of
its memeber states have their own jurisdiction on things such as
education. If the European parliament decides that Spanish is an
official language in the community, it doesn't mean that the UK will
have to make spanish schools available to all.

>   English schools are not provided in Spain at public expense.
>   If they were I would do the same.

So, if I understand what you are saying, Quebec is worst than Spain
because it offers EXTRA facilities, but with restrictions on them?
Would you prefer the removal of all public funding of non-francophone
schools accompanied by the removal of Law 101? That part of Law 101
has one purpose: ensure that Quebec remains francophone, without
punishing the existing anglo-quebecois. It effectively says to new
arrivants that if they want to be quebecois they should integrate the
francophone community, not the anglophone.

-- 
                                                       Francois Audet
                                                           '
                                      Telephone: (613) 592-2121 x1754
                          Internet: Francois.Audet@software.Mitel.COM
Xref: sparky can.general:3448 can.politics:5426
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: RACISM???/Access to English schools
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:22:17 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Jul25.155449.22441@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias) writes:
>
>>Purpose is not to enforce unilingualism, but because we don't feel secure
>>in Canada.                                          ****
>
>You didn't reply the last time I asked you this question.  Maybe you will
>reply this time... then again, maybe not.
>
>How is it that YOU don't feel secure in Canada.  ("YOU" means that you
>                                                                ****
>
>Quebec is the first/second (forget which) largest province in Canada.
>The Prime Minisiter is bilingual, was born and raised in Quebec.
>The Leader of the Opposition is francophone, and could be the next P.M.
>Much of the cabinet is francophone.  In short, francophones/Quebecois
>hold *much* of the the power in the federal government.  You can't buy
>a box of cereal in Canada without seeing both English and French on it!!
>
>*Please*, explain to me how it is that you do not feel secure in a 
>fe
>federation largely controlled by people from Quebec.
>
>If not you, somebody please explain this to me.  I would like to know.
>("It is not possible to explain this to an outsider..." commentators
> please give a *real* answer.)
>
>Edgar

No idea who is *YOU*, but...

Except for having PM and opposition leader from Quebec, what you describe
is exactly the same situation as 30 years ago.  And what was the situation
30 years ago?  A lot of provinces with no effective French schooling.
A federal government with no services in French for many categories.
Even having a job in most Quebec companies meaning you have to use
English because the boss, even if the only not francophone in the shop,
was not speaking French.  CRTC favorising anglophone radio station
in Montreal area (even when anglos were 40%, they had 60% of radio).

This is one think that insecure us : that there is _today_ no guarantee
at all that the 30 years ago situation can come back.  We want to be sure
we won't go back as second class citizen.  And all the change occured
because of either political fighting (including internal struggle)
or French-Speaking leadership.  Nobody from the English-Speaking group
ever take any leadership in the wind of change, just like everybody
followed because it was politically preferable.  And just see what
happen at the constitutional table : when Quebec is absent, nothing,
absolutely nothing is done to favor her.

Ca, c'est le test supreme : savoir qu'en l'absence du Quebec, c'est
un coup de poignard dans le dos qu'on va avoir.


-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
Newsgroups: can.general
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: The National Debt
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: canada
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:00:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.193124.4303@unixg.ubc.ca> andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.213908.5961@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>  
>golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul23.195631.1977@unixg.ubc.ca> andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca  
>(Andrew Dwelly) writes:
>> >
>> >Does anyone have accurate, or even estimated figures for the 
>> >Canadian national debt, and its rate of increase ? I'd quite
>> >like to modify the xdebt program which monitors the US national
>> >debt, to horrify Canadians as well.
>> >
>> 
>> The federal debt is about $450 billion dollars and the total
>> provincial debt is about $100 billion.
>> 
>> Gerald
>
>Ouch, that is high - I guess that's American billions (10e9) rather
>than British billions (10E12). What's the rate of increase ?
>

The federal government is adding about $35 billion a year for the
last decade...but this has been reasonable in that a decade ago
this was 9% of GDP...now it is just over 4% of GDP...considering
all the screaming against the Tories for this moderate restraint...
it was an adequate fiscal performance by the Tories.  Continued
on this track for another decade...the federal debt problem would
finally be manageable again.

The problem now is the provinces...almost all of which are now
running huge deficits...Ontario $10 billion dollars deficits for
as far as the eye can see...Quebec, I think around $3 or 4 billion
I think...BC and Alberta, a couple of a billion each...and Alberta
has a huge structural deficit that the provincial Tories are trying
to hide until after the next election...Getty deserves to be
shot (I'm being metaphorical here) for the financial mess he's
made of Alberta.

Gerald
From: wheelan@cs.mcgill.ca (Bill HEELAN)
Newsgroups: can.general,rec.bikes
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:43:49 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

From article <Bs3rCL.9IF@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, by howard@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Howard Lem):
[...]
> Well let me put my two bit into the fray :-)  This is just an opinion!
> 
> I believe users wanting the government to provide something should contribute
> a majority of the cost to operate/maintain the service.  Drivers pay assorted
> taxes and licensing fees to use the roads.  If bicylists want bike paths,
> they contirbute towards their creation and upkeep just like motor vehicles
> and their drivers.

    Hmmm, do drivers pay their fair share of the costs of road maintenance
    and construction, and environmental damage?

    I suspect not, but I can't prove it.  Does anyone know if this type of
    information is summarized (e.g. StatsCan)?

                                                      - Bill
Newsgroups: can.general
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: video quality of CTV's Olympic coverage
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:32:43 GMT

Anyone noticed the excellent video quality on most of the Olympic
broadcasts?  Especially the opening ceromony on Saturday, and most of
the events and interviews by CTV staff in Barcelona have absolutely
noise-free video.  Panasonic has an ad on every night bragging that
their _digital_ video cameras are used by all major western world TV
networks, including CTV.  Anyone have more details about how much of
the signal chain is actually digital is invited to post more details.
Xref: sparky can.general:3414 can.politics:5369
From: Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:35:09 GMT

Nick_Janow@mindlink.bc.ca (Nick Janow) writes:
>tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
>
>> If bicycle paths are so safe, why is it that most of them have a 15mph speed
>> limit?
>
>Probably for a number of reasons.  The paths tend to be multi-purpose, with
>pedestrians, slow recreational riders, unpredictable riders, etc, who don't mix
>safely with faster cyclists.  Many paths aren't designed properly, preventing
>an unobstructed view far enough ahead for faster cycling.  The paths also cross
>other paths and roadways, forming uncontrolled intersections, and no one
>expects cyclists to slow down for them (too many don't).

Yes, and don't you just love "so called" bicycle paths, the paved parts
between the sidewalk and the road? They're just great, with all their
lightposts, fire hydrants, mailboxes, trees, garbage, blue boxes etc. Not to
mention that most of them are so badly paved that it's hard to ride on them
without getting shaken into a froth. 

Gaea
gaea@zooid.guild.org


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From: davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown)
Subject: Re: Globe & Mail & Sex & Bondage & the Internet
Organization: York University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:11:15 GMT

Just to move this to a higher moral plane, here's a quote from
the Canadian Library Association on the subject of intellectual freedom...
-----------------
                        Canadian Library Association
                      Statement on Intellectual Freedom

   All persons in canada have the fundamental right, as embodied in the
nation's Bill of Rights and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, to
have access to all expressions of knowledge, creativity and intellectual
activity, and to express their thoughts publicly.  This right to
intellectual freedom, under the law, is essential to the health and
development of Canadian society.

    Libraries have a basic responsibility for the development and
maintenance of intellectual freedom.

    It is the responsibility of libraries to guarantee and facilitate access
to all expressions of knowledge and intellectual activity, including those
which some some elements of society may consider to be unconventional,
unpopular or unacceptable.  To this end, libraries shall acquire and make
available the widest variety of materials.

    It is the responsibility of libraries to guarantee the right of free
expression by making available all the library's public facilities and
services to all individuals and groups which need them.

     Libraries should resist all efforts to limit the exercise of these
responsibilities while recognizing the right of criticism by individuals and
groups.

     Both employees and employers in libraries have a duty, in addition to
their institutional responsibilities, to uphold these principles.


Adopted 1974, amended 1983 and 1985.
----------------
-- 
David Collier-Brown,  | davecb@Nexus.YorkU.CA | lethe!dave
72 Abitibi Ave.,      | 
Willowdale, Ontario,  | Stupidity is evil waiting to happen.
CANADA. 416-223-8968  |               -- Clay Bond
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From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: RACISM???/Access to English schools
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:15:11 GMT

In article <Bs40or.Hwx@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>>> Why is that "united" Canada unable to find something that Quebec
>>>will accept?
>>
>>  That's a good question.
>>
>>  Put it another way:-
>>
>>  Why is it that the nationalists in Quebec can not accept anything "united"
>>  Canada has to offer?
>
>So, you think that Quebec shown nothing that would be acceptable since
>the 1960's for example?  Or since 1976?  So, you think that a deaf Canada
>between 1976 and Meech Lake has learned to hear since that?  Still kidding!
>BTW, united Canada has not yet made any offer in favor of Quebec.  Always
>the minimum it can let go and always less than what Quebec would expect
>from a country that's accusing Quebec of treachery just because is and was
>different (remember  Too Great a Country to be broken  in recent postings).

Of course, you're forgetting the BIGGEST problem - there is NO
"united" Canada.  The other 9 provinces have sufficient differences
that it's difficult to come up with ANY kind of agreement,
particularly when the hard-liners come out.

And it's certainly not a "united" Canada when a large portion of the
population refuses to be involved in the creation of the agreement,
which is what happens when nobody from Quebec is at the table.

Quebec nationalists are not a totally homogenous group, but the
so-called "CSQ" is far less homogeneous.  Us CSQians don't even share
a mother tongue, let alone a specific political position, or a
particular culture.
-- 
Christopher Browne
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca
University of Ottawa
Master of System Science Program
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From: andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly)
Subject: The National Debt
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:56:31 GMT


Does anyone have accurate, or even estimated figures for the 
Canadian national debt, and its rate of increase ? I'd quite
like to modify the xdebt program which monitors the US national
debt, to horrify Canadians as well.

Andy Dwelly andy@bcu.ubc.ca
Xref: sparky can.general:3340 can.politics:5262
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steven C. Potter)
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics
Subject: Article (26)(3), U.N. Univ. Dec. of Hum. Rts.
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:38:21 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 1467

From article <SBO.92Jul20171234@froh.vlsi.polymtl.ca>, by sbo@vlsi.polymtl.ca
 Stephane Boucher writes:-

> 
>>>>>> On 19 Jul 92 14:32:09 GMT, steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steven C. Potter) said:
>   > X-Bytes: 663
> 
>   > From article <1992Jul16.172227.19189@mdivax1.uucp>, by robinson@mdivax1.uucp
>   >  Jim Robinson asks:
> 
>   > > 
>   > > For the ignorant among us (like me) what exactly does article (26)(3) of
>   > > the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Freedoms say?
>   > > -- 
> 
>   >    "Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education
>   >     that shall be given to their children."
> 
> Ce n'est pas que je veux etre pointilleux, mais que veut
> dire "the kind". Est-ce qu'il donne des details explicites
> sur "the kind"?
> 
> Not that I want to be nit-picking (sp?), but what does
> "the kind" refer to? Do they give explicit details of that
> in the document?
> 

   1) Does anyone have acces to the French text of the declaration?
      Est-ce-que quelqu'un as une copie du version francaise de
      cette declaration?

   2) Any member of the race of Lawyers ( :-) ) out there care to
      address this one - please?

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