Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american,misc.education
Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
From: ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:27:02 MST
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In article <1992Dec15.163949.18988@blkbox>, collins@blkbox (Chad R. Collins) writes:
> ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu writes:
> 
>>  Maybe it's because we are the most easily identifiable.  I have known blacks
>>  who look white and they have expressed the discrimination the face when it is
>>  discovered that they are black.  White females in the work force are commonly
>>  faced with the problem of it not being discovered that they are married to
>>  a black man.  Co-workers of mine experienced it and told me so. 
>>  It's kind of bad when in a white school system a white girl says to a black
>>  boy "I like you but my dad would not approve...".  I'm not hung up on white
>>  women, but this is another example of how integration has been a failure.  So
>>  IMO I think it's best we part, as in another nation.  We have hell living
>>  together as one nation under god.  It's getting to be one nation under satan.
>> 			
> 	Well, looking at our country, it kinda seems to me that neither of
> us ("us" being blacks and whites) really WANTS to become integrated- except in
> limited circumstances. I mean, look at that guy vanilla ice- people saying
> he couldn't be a rapper because he was white.
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  Neither of us wants to become integrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  Who has been the primary detriment regarding the integration efforts of the 
  1960's???  Oh no we don't want integration!
  Remember 2,4,6,8 we don't want to integrate?
  I didn't see no white folk in the ghetto trying to integrate into thier 
  schools!  
  Blacks may not want to integrate now, at least I don't since, IMO, it has
  been a failure.
  Regarding Vanilla Ice.  How many black rock stars do we see?  They are out 
  there.  You can play on my turf but I can't play on yours!

> 	The problem is- how can we live together if both of us are so
> different?  It won't be easy, that's for sure, but do we REALLY have any other
> options? I mean, it would be nice to say that we can both just go our own
> seperate ways and be done with it, but I dont really see how we could do that.
> Face it, minorities really are pretty spread out in america- where would
> this black nation be? 
> The only real way to get a black nation is to bring back the old
> 'go back to africa' (which I doubt would be much more successful that here)-
> something which I doubt either race would want.
> 
  How can we live together if we are both so different?  Good question.  Big
  daddy U.S.A. should have thought about that 400 years ago. 
  Go back to africa is not that old.  I had to hear it throughout high school
  when neither myself or many whites were familiar with what Africa was all
  about.  So what has happened to that phrase?  Are whites afraid it might
  come true?  I'm game!!!  It is a solution to be considered.  U.S.A. certainly
  has the military strength and financial wealth to carry it out.        
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