HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wjabi@srvr1.engin.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi,APRL-1232, Office Phone 936-0229, 769-1382)
Subject: Four 1MB SIMMS for Mac IIFX or NeXTstation Color 
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:27:09 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

I have one year old Four 1MB SIMMS from my NeXTstation Color
that I want to sell (to free space for 4MB SIMMS). These work
perfectly with a Mac II FX. I am willing to sell the set for
$100. I pay shipping anywhere in the U.S.

If interested e-mail to wjabi@caen.engin.umich.edu

Wassim Jabi

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From: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: New Discovery on NeXt 17" Color Monitor
Reply-To: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:57:10 GMT

Hi,

	I posted a news before saying there's a green light on my new  
replacement in Feb. I got many responses from many people who's curious to  
know whether there exists a new design of the NeXT 17" Color Monitor. 

My summary goes as the following:

	1. there's only one person ever responded to me with the same  
green light indicator on his monitor, and he agrees with me that the  
picture quality of our kinds are much better than the one without a green  
light in his campus lab. 

	2. The manufactured date of my monitor is Feb 91, which is far  
earlier than the actual shipping date of a NSC. And it's still made by  
Philips. So, I suspect that my is one of those they restocked first and  
fine-tuned them before it goes to the customers. They have some new design  
in it which improve the picture quality, but still it's a Philips made  
monitor. The light could be some layout difference from the old ones which  
used to cause a lot of complaints.

	3. There does exist new Monitors which doesn't have the Brightness  
and Contrast knobs on the bottom of the screen nor the green light on it. 
It happens to the most recent order of NSC from NeXT. I think that should  
be the primary model that NeXT is shipping right now. However, I have no  
clue that whether the REAL NEW monitor (without the knobs) is better than  
the one I have or not, since I need to see to compare with it. But the  
only comment from the person who  had seen both said "The new one looks  
very sharp, but his looks better!"  I really don't exactly know how to  
interpret his comment, maybe he can explain more. 

	4. I am not sure about the policy of NeXT, do they just give a 
brand new monitor for the replacement or they replace it with a re-stocked  
and fixed one. That explains why I got the green light, it was the very  
early design and they removed it later on. Apparently, the new order of  
NSC is shipped with a monitor without light and control knobs. 

	If anyone have any new discovery, please feel free to send me  
their opinion and suggestions.

Gary

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen)
Subject: Re: NeXT sales 1991--> Help
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:18:14 GMT

Steven D. Borrelli writes
> So far my estimates are as follows:
> Sales (1991) $127 million
> Units shipped in 1991 (estimate)   32,000-56,000.

I calculate that the units was a bit lower ...

$127,000,000 divided by 32,000 machines give approximately $4000 per machine.

$127,000,000 divided by 56,000 machines give approximately $2250 per machine.

Now we all know that a NeXT computer costs more than $4000 except for the  
smallest machine for registered developers. However there were upgrades of  
68030 boards to 68040 boards and NeXTdimension upgrades, both costing less than  
$4000 a pop. (But an ND purchase probably includes a monitor purchase - so  
theprice goes over $5000). It is possible 32,000 'units' was right for 1991 if  
a 'unit' was any item with a processor on it (new computer, 68040 upgrade, ND).

Revenue of $127,000,000 probably includes course fees, support fees, media  
sales, SIMM upgrades, printers, paper trays, and such non-computer stuff.

I would *guess* that NeXT was in the 25-30,000 range based on the above  
arithmetic. Probably the real number was a bit lower.

Remember that SGI is in the 10-15,000 range, IBM in the 20-30,000 range, HP and  
DEC in the 50-75,000 range, and Sun in the 150-200,000 range ... 25,000 for  
NeXT would be respectable in the desktop Unix market. And remember that  
trade-ins replacements and significant upgrades are usually counted by  
manfacturers as units shipped, as are any units that go into a channel without  
making it to an end-user.

Unless you compare to Macs (1,000,000 a year?) or PCs (15,000,000 a year?) :)

Mark R. Thomsen

P.S. Anyone ready to flame me for predicting that NeXT would catch Sun in sales  
in another year? :) :) :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: System Admin. & Re: Adobe Systems Incorporated -- and a Question
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:41:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.165330.3692@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca> jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca  
(Joseph Chin) writes:

>  Launching a new app has never worked for me! I always have to either use  
>  FontInstaller (which automatically rebuilds the index and cache files) or  
>  do the installation manually (i.e. command line).


Ditto!  I have never ever seen the font-panel discover new fonts unless I run  
buildafmdir....


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com
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Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: borres@aix.rpi.edu (Steven D. Borrelli)
Subject: NeXT sales 1991--> Help
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:48:20 GMT


Can someone tell me what are the estimates for NeXT's sales in 1991?
I'd like to have: total units shipped and quarterly revenue.
I've done some preliminary research, but I'm finding problems in getting 
info about NeXT since it is privately held. 


So far my estimates are as follows:
Sales (1991) $127 million
Units shipped in 1991 (estimate)   32,000-56,000.

Are any of these too far out of line? What is the total installed NeXT
base at the moment? I am much more interested in the units shipped/ installed
base information.

Please email and I will post what I come up with. 

thanks, Steve



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From: jefu@akbar.nmt.edu (Jeff Putnam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: dat drives
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:28:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmt.1992Apr16.132859.4301
Organization: New Mexico Tech


We have a WangDAT scsi dat drive that wont run on the machine
it was purchased for.

How hard is it to hook one of these up to a NeXT (specifically
a color slab)?  How much of a driver needs to be written?

Is there any chance 3.0 will be released on dat tape?

--
jefu <=> Jeff Putnam - New Mexico Tech <=> jefu@nmt.edu
From: mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, GNUS doesn't
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:55:36 GMT
Reply-To: mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services

Dave Griffiths writes
>In article <1992Apr13.015452.12324@talon.ucs.orst.edu>  
mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu writes:
>>
>>NG can be annoying at times, but it's still easier to deal with than rn or  
>>other text-based news utilities. 
>
>Sorry, can't resist! Why *do* people rave about NG? Is it just because
>it has a NeXTStep interface? 

When I use a text-based news reader I get the feeling that operating a tool  
to read news, instead of just reading news.  I can just feel those  
biological computrons being siphoned off to figuring out how to run the news  
reader instead of being used to help do the task at hand.  It operates in  
the usual NeXTstep way, so I don't have to think about new commands or  
learning a new way to do things.

I find that I can filter many noise posts out by just scanning the titles  
instead of relying on killfiles or thread pruning; I remained blissfully  
ignorant of most of the recent flamewars (a depressingly common feature in  
the next.* groups of late).  I find I can go down to safely reading 20% or  
less of many groups, particularly in the noise-intensive ones.  Conversely,  
I can pick up threads when I see that someone who generally posseses a clue  
jumps into a thread in mid-stream, since I have the poster's names displayed  
next to the article titles.  Sort of a reverse kill file.

Wish NG would eliminate x-posts after reading the first one, though.

--
Don McGregor             | California danger signs: you own more pairs of 
mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu| shorts than you do long pants.
From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: System Admin. & Re: Adobe Systems Incorporated -- and a Question
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:20:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.154722.26173@newshost.lanl.gov> tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd  
M. Swan) writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.070836.28851@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
> marcu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Albert Ullman) writes:
> > 
> > 	/usr/local		--> /local
> > 	/LocalApps		--> /local/Apps
> > 	/LocalLibrary		--> /local/Library
> > and of course
> > 	/NextLibrary/Packages/ThirdParty --> /LocalLibrary/Packages/ThirdParty
> 
> Gee, I do the same thing.  And I thought I was original... :-)

Funny.  I just got an external drive last week and did much the same thing.   
All of my non-NeXT created stuff is in /externalDrive/Local/.  No partitions,  
though.  Partitions are evil.  :-)

I've also got a full OS on each drive (2.1 external, 3.0 beta internal), and  
the links are parallel for each drive.  That is,

  /Local --> /externalDrive/Local  when I boot from the internal
  /Local is just there             when I boot from the external

Makes for weirdness with NetInfo, though....  :-)

Disclaimer:  Don't try this at home.  I'm beginning to wonder how sane it is  
myself....

--
Nik Gervae
Software Publications
ngervae@next.com
From: aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:46:53 GMT
Organization: Next Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Apr16.063210.4999@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>Also, I was told by someone at NeXT as well as reading on this group
>that ImageViewer (an app that does similar things in terms of
>converting from one picture type to another) will be made obsolete by
>v3.0 NeXTstep.
>If this is so, why should anyone get this program if they're also
>upgrading to 3.0?

3.0 does not come with any image filters. 3.0 comes with the ability to
run filters to automatically convert file types when importing. In fact,
because of this feature, I think the market for applications like
PixelMagician will even be bigger. (I should add that I haven't had the
chance to play with PixelMagician yet...)

Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Do NOT buy from Neuron! (Re: NeXT FAX recommendations?)
Keywords: next, fax
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:59:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.145323.7035@Princeton.EDU> amlovell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony M Lovell) writes:
>  Why is this Neuron product so oft-discussed?

Because the 96+ was/is a piece of junk made proprietary by Neuron. It does
not work and Neuron refuses to honour their warranty. The 1414 is simply
another inexpensive faxmodem which Neuron seems to have not dared make
proprietary. They bundle it with software which is of questionable value and
resell it at a high price. The Neuron product is the only v.32bis faxmodem
which claims to work with the NeXT. 

> What is special about it
>that recommends it over a cheaper product such as a SupraFax Modem V3.2?
>I am very curious, and guess that there must be some very important
>attribute that I'm unaware of.  Can such a cheap modem as the Supra
>offer meaningful function with a NeXT cube '040?

The special thing about it the the lowest form of customer service available,
lack of warranty support, debatable software, not even clear if it works in
its latest form and that won't be clear for some time as the Neuron sw has
the unique feature of getting worse over time.

The Supra would be very useful for the NeXT if someone (NeXT for example)
would provide a faxdriver for it. The v.32bis part can  be taken care of
by Microphone, Tip, uucp,etc...Neuron has set back the NeXT in this area by
months if not a year.

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Diagram! Engage! Enough!
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:55:03 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Apr7.174046.12075@fnbc.com> frank@fnbc.com
(Frank Mitchell) writes:

>	Icon#@!$*#@!!?!
>	Mathematica$$$$$$$$$
>	Nextstep3.0...........................................

I thought that was very funny.  Bravo!

-- 
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Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vhs@darkcube.radig.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: SEF did it again
Reply-To: vhs@darkcube.radig.de
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 07:49:20 GMT

This is to inform you that our dear member SEF, who we all love so much,
just behaved like an idiot again. He mailed me the two icons back I
posted a few days ago. He added some blabla about how the message looked like
and that tens of thousands of systems have to pay for that.

I knew very well what I was doing, that's why I put (RTF) in the header line,
and placeholders in the ASCII text so non-RTF readers could still find out
what the posting was about and decide whether they want to extract the pictures
manually.

If SEF is too stupid to uudecode, uncompress and untar a posting,
he should shut off and not play net.police? Most other people on usenet
are intelligent enough for this task.

I think many other people (even those without NeXTs) enjoyed the pictures.

The inevitable flame wars SEF keeps causing usually outscale the size of the
RTF postings.

I mailed SEF, too, but recently he did the most impolite thing possible
during a discussion: He set an automatic mail bouncer so I couldn't reach him.
I assume the bouncer is still in effect.

When will SEF finally appear in the NeXT FAQ?

--
Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@darkcube.radig.de)

If I had intel inside(tm), I'd throw up...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@banana.handheld.com>
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, GNUS doesn't
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:48:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.183800.560@prim.uucp> dave@prim.uucp (Dave Griffiths)
writes:
>
>Sorry, can't resist! Why *do* people rave about NG? Is it just because
>it has a NeXTStep interface? 

Yes!  Those of us sold on NeXTstep, and GUIs in general, do NOT want a stupid
VT100 emulator running a cryptic newsreader with it's own set of 'commands' to
memorize and type in. However capable that command line reader may be.

>I have a choice between NG and trn, and I
>use trn. Is there a rational reason for this? :-) Yes - it follows threads!
>If the subject changes in NG, you lose the thread. This seems a pretty
>basic shortcoming.
>

Yes, there's a lot wrong with NG.  Perhaps it's time to do a Mime version.  But
a GUI interface beats a command line one, hands down. At least in my opinion.

>Dave Griffiths
>

As to mime vs NG format, RTF is RTF, I don't think a conversion to mime is
going to make the plain ascii only crowd any happier.

Jim De Arras
From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Microphone interference
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:10:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: agog.1992Apr7.161023.1995
Reply-To: greg@agog.com
Organization: Agog, Inc.

Anthony Berno writes
> 
> Has anyone been having as much trouble as I have with noisy microphones?  
> Now that I'm (trying) to use Simon Says, every microphone I try sounds  
> like a hornet's nest, there is so much 60 hz buzzing. The source of the  
> radiation is clearly the monitor - I have a "vintage" monitor without  
the  
> built-in microphone.
> 
> ....
> 
> Do the newer monitors give out less of a field, or is this a problem  
with  

My guess is that it is an impedance problem. I get horrible 60hz humm if I  
hookup a headset mike that has a line transformer and put the high/low  
impedance switch in the wrong position. This is with a new monitor.

I've also notice that the external mike input on the old and new monitors  
are different. A mike that works on an old monitor may not work good on a  
new monitor.

	-greg.





-- 

Greg Cockroft                       greg@agog.com    
Agog, Inc.                          (517) 627-2186   fax 2673
13780 North River Highway
From: dcher@dairy.tamu.edu (David Cherbonnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Display growing dim
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:47:17 GMT

I'm sure I saw this subject posted awhile back, but a search of the FAQ  
archives yielded nothing...

The brightness level on my mono slab has been dimming steadily for weeks.
Currently, it's to the point now that I have to run at max brightness to see  
anything, and it's not getting better :(  BTW, I'm always careful to dim the  
screen when I logoff, and the auto-dim setting under preferences is set to dim  
after 5 minutes.

Could someone who's had this problem lend some advice?  
-----------------------------
David Cherbonnier
dcher@dairy.tamu.edu

(sig file under construction)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
Reply-To: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: The Wordcraft Group - Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:49:37 GMT

In article <odvBRui00WBK49xdYr@andrew.cmu.edu> mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu  
(Martin David Frankel) writes:
> ...
> So PixelMagician is, at $299, basically a NeXTstep app wrapper for
> PBMPLUS.
> ...

That may very well be the case. But lets not forget that for $299, you get  
a fairly nice GUI front end (PBMPLUS is something only a commandline  
hacker would love :-) which makes the software very easy to use, and you  
also get a commitment by Bacchus to support the product. For many, that is  
not a high price to pay for something that will help them get works done  
without having to learn a bunch a command line parameters (or having to  
work from the command line for that matter).

If you don't like the price and you are happy with PBMPLUS, no one is  
forcing you to pay $299 for a copy of PixelMagician.

Joe

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation whatsoever with Bacchus. I am not even a  
customer (yet). However, I have tried the PixelMagician demo and chatted  
with the nice people from Bacchus at NeXTworld Expo '92.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: minch@lotka.stanford.edu (Eric Minch)
Subject: Re: RightBrain Software to Ship Source Code
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:18:18 GMT

Whoops! Major error; please insert :v) in previous message. (Mea culpa)

Eric Minch
From: drw@infidel.lanl.gov (David Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: repost fro comp.sys.next.sysadmin - modem question
Keywords: modem - everex - tip - remote
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:39:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Apr8.013938.8176
Followup-To: drw@infidel.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

HEY GANG - i posted this earlier on csn.sysadmin and got one response from
a guy who reports a similar problem with his v.32 bis modem...

WHAT's GOING ON HERE?  ... and how does one fix it?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
hello netters.

i've obtained an everex evercom 24e+ modem which i am hooking up to my 030 
cube and accessing with tip.

i am having no trouble using tip to talk to the modem and dialing out with
'at' commands manually to make a successful connection...  

however, if i use the :du:pn=...  option in the
/etc/remote file and use tip then dialing is ok, but the modem does not hear
the answering carrier, apparently, and reports 'RING' instead, just before it
hangs up.  hah.  not funny.

so - is it the modem, or is it the tip program that's goofed up?  any good 
ideas?

send yer advice and requests for info to me directly, 

thanks,

  David Wolf
  drw@infidel.lanl.gov
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Image Processing for NeXT ???????
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:16:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: godel.1992Apr10.181605.8866
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca

> In article <1906@ra.nrl.navy.mil> yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John  
> Michopoulos) writes:

> 	Well, this proboably won't help, but I'll tell ya anyway...
> 	There is an image processing course taught here at Rose-Hulman  
> which uses the NeXT. All of the image processing is done using  
> Mathematica. What I understand (from what I have seen, and from talking  
to  
> the professor that teaches it) is that tiff data is imported into  
> Mathematica, and the processing is done using the the mathematical  
prowess  
> of Mathematica. The images are displayed by contour plotting the  
> information. This is all done on Monochrome '040 stations.

How, pray tell, does Mathematica import a TIFF image? Perhaps I just  
missed it in the manual, but this would be quite useful for me...


-Anthony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sksircar@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Subrata Sircar)
Subject: Re: Save mail from the Mail Application?
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: SPAMIT
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:06:19 GMT

minch@lotka.stanford.edu (Eric Minch) writes:
>Any mail I want saved I just leave in my mailbox, but if you *did* want  
>to save it to a file, and *didn't* want to cut-and-paste, you could  
>print (^p) and hit the Save button on the Print Dialog panel to get a  
>Save Panel.

That's a PostScript (.ps) file though, kind of a pain if you wanted text.
My solution is to do the cut-'n'-paste thing into Edit, but a SimonSays
macro makes it easy and about a half-second's worth of time.  Two mouse
macros, five keystrokes and away we go :<)



-- 
Subrata Sircar | ssircar@canon.com | Prophet & SPAMIT Charter Member
Canon Information Systems and I do not speak for each other on all things.
"I wish people wouldn't instantly assume that I am an idiot." (Valentine)
"A restaurant is a whorehouse that does food instead of sex." (Roger Lustig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman)
Subject: great advertising campaign idea :-)
Organization: UCLA, Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 01:15:22 GMT


Picture this: to highlight the current anxiety of NeXTs 
competitors (Sun, Apple/IBM), NeXT teams up with militant rap 
group "Public Enemy",  with music video style adds based 
on their albums

"Fear of a Black Planet"

and

"It Takes a Nation of Millions (of PC Users) to Hold us Back"

:-)

--
Barry Merriman
UCLA Dept. of Math
UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet; NeXTMail is welcome)