From: Roberto@sunsci.cern.ch (Roberto Divia CERN-ECP/DS +41 22 767 4994)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: WGH3: small problems (bugs?)
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:06:48 GMT
Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics

First of all, a great THANKS to Bethesda. WGH3 is the best Ice Hockey
I have ever seen. Great graphics and fantastic feeling, expecially in
3/4 view mode... I have now some small problems and I'd like to know
if it is me doing something wrongor rather a more general situation.

I am running WGH3 verion 1.01, with a 386 clone. Enough memory to run
in 3/4 view mode (however, my problem is unrelated to the view mode).
If I edit the teams, change a couple of things here and there (all after
having typed in the code) and start the game, 4 times out of 5 the game
starts all alone without any player under my control. If I stop the game,
go to the main menu and select the dressing room(s), the control is
set to auto player and auto coach. I then change these values back and
restart the game: same results. Go back to the dressing rooms: auto player
and auto coach! The only way out is to:

	o set to manual play;
	o save the game;
	o exit from WGH3;
	o reenter WGH3 (the reconfig option sometimes is necessary);
	o reload the game.

Is it me or what? Ah, MS-DOS version 5.0, SoundBlaster installed (and running
fine). It seems to me that the problems start every time I have to type in the
code (which is accepted by the program).

Some other small problems:

1) My main joystick X potentiometer lost his connection (lousy cables).
WGH3 didn't start any more, all frozen after the intro message, no errors,
no panics. Just all frozen! It took me one day to figure out what was wrong
(thanks to other games and to joyread.exe) as I was looking for all sorts of
system configuration/TSRs/memory/DOS problems.

2) In 3/4 view, sometimes funny characters appear here and there (arrows,
players).

3) When a saved play is loaded, WGH3 starts immediately. Sometimes one would
like to re-edit the play before, such as change the period length, the
view mode etc.

4) When a saved play is started, the period length sometimes is not right for
the first third, e.g. the game file has 10' periods, the game starts with
20' for the first period and 10' for second and third. Sometimes the period
is already finished. Also, I have seen penalties AT THE START (once one team
started with three players!). All goes fine if the game is aborted and
restarted from the main menu (see also point 3). I have seen problems on
saved games in average once out of 10 times.

5) In a two-players game with both players in the same team, if the second
player becomes the player nearest to the puck, he belongs to the OTHER team
and cannot play any more (the player is not under control).

6) If the goalie is pulled while one player is under penalty AND a second
player
gets a penalty, the team becomes made of TWO players PLUS the goalie... with
the goalie in the middle of the action (the engagement following the second
penalty) standing still and possibly catching (and freezing) the puck. Quite
funny to see!

7) The play sound effects are not running in overhead view mode (only in 3/4 
mode).

8) The old (V2) "BEEP-BEEP-BEPP" immediately after a goal is still there only
in 3/4 view. Also, it goes via the PC speaker rather then via the SoundBlaster
(small problems due to the different volumes and the quality of the sound).

9) I am not an expert in Ice Hockey, but when two players from opposite teams
receive a penalty, aren't the two teams supposed with one player less each?

10) Is it possible to get 5 minutes without a fight? I haven't managed so far.

11) I have heard about a "League Editor". What is it? Where can I get it?
It was supposed to be released for Xmas (in the US)...

12) Last but not least, is Bethesda on Internet? Just to know where to get
updates/bug fixes (takes a long time for distribution in Europe...).

Thanx in advance, and happy WGH3!
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