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From: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com (Kevin Routh)
Subject: Re: Elvis 1.6 Unix Tar File Distribution?
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:03:23 GMT

ericm@ims.com (Eric Martinson) writes:
: >In article <1992Nov4.072437.13294@ims.com> you write:
: 
: Again, does anyone know where a sound elvis-1.6.tar.Z can be found?
: 
I got Elvis 1.6 in a .sh file form from the following place:

% ftp m2xenix.psg.com
Connected to m2xenix.psg.com.
220 m2xenix.psg.com FTP server (Version 5.52 #6 Mon Feb 5 16:28:10 CST
1990) ready.
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd pub/elvis
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (0 bytes).
total 2842
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51          6248 May  7  1992 Changes
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51        192806 May  8  1992 Elvisman.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51           357 Apr  7  1992 Whats_what
drwxr-xr-x   2 308      51           208 May 18 00:35 beta
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51        158386 May  8  1992 elv16doc.sh
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51        261930 May 22 14:13 elv16exe.zoo
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51        635916 May 18 00:27 elv16src.sh
drwxr-xr-x   2 308      51           352 Jun 11 11:56 parts
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51          7193 Nov 22  1991 unshar.c
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51         99620 May 18 00:33 update16.sh
-rw-r--r--   1 308      51         67192 May 22 13:37 zoo.exe
226 Transfer complete.
726 bytes received in 0.78 seconds (0.91 Kbytes/s)
ftp>

Hope this helps.
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From: gowen@jade.tufts.edu (G. Lee Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Brief info?
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:11:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1992Oct28.225639.29556@cmcl2.nyu.edu> snyder@acf3.nyu.edu (Kirk Snyder) writes:
>Does anyone have any info/rumours/speculation on the status of
>Brief?  I know that it was bought by Borland.  I've seen it
> .... 
>Does Borland intend to continue it as an independent product, or
>incorporate it into their compiler packages?  Might Borland

From Bill Duncan, (bduncan@ve3ied.uucp)
>Please post a summary of anything you find out here.
 
#include <std_disclaim.h>

	Do not take this as gospel, but at the borland/ibm OS/2 party
of the Programmers Development party this fall in Boston, they were
giving away copies of several of their products, and Brief was one of
them.  I was busy salivating over someone's OS/2 prize but I believe
that when the Borland representative was introducing the prizes he
said this blurb about brief, the old "This is a fine product we've
just picked up and we hope to continue in the tradition" etc, etc.
This was a month ago and my memory is poor but I got the impression
that they were going to continue to support it as a front-line product
and that they expected it would do well.  Sort of like parents showing
off their new baby 8).

	Again, don't take it as gospel.  Just a tidbit.

	greg
	gowen@forte.cs.tufts.edu, gowen@jade.tufts.edu


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From: mdr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Mark D. Rutherford)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: XEDIT on ms-dos
Date: 6 Nov 1992 16:17:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Distribution: inet
Reply-To: mdr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Mark D. Rutherford)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I am looking for a PC version of the VMS editor Xedit.
Does one exist? If so, could someone tell me of it's whereabouts,
or if it's not too big, UUENCODE it and email it to me?

Thanks in advance,

Mark

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From: weisen@daedalus.dcrt.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld)
Subject: Re: Anyone use SAM?
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:36:05 GMT

djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (David J Dawkins) writes:
: 
:     OK-OK-OK-OK. ok. You've sold it to me. 
: 
:     Where can I get it?
:     Will it compile and run under Un*x or do I need Plan-9?
: 
: -dave "Always wanting a better editor"
: 

research.att.com:/dist/sam/bundle.Z

that's the whole she-bang in what I think was a shar.  Oh, it contains
plan 9 stuff but also contains the stuff needed to run it under X.

-neil "The jury's still out" weisenfeld


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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Anyone use SAM?
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:42:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

David J Dawkins (djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk) wrote:
:     OK-OK-OK-OK. ok. You've sold it to me. 
: 
:     Where can I get it?
:     Will it compile and run under Un*x or do I need Plan-9?
: 

Since I've been asked this several times:
It's in /dist/sam on research.att.com.

The version there compiles under many dialects of Unix, but includes some
Plan 9 source so you can gaze upon it in awe. The supplied samterm is for
X11; I've also used a Suntools version, but that isn't supplied...

just another sam user,
Pete
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From: sunthej@alleg.edu (Jake Blues)
Subject: Grammer Checker
Reply-To: sunthej@alleg.edu
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:47:05 GMT


Does anyone know of a public domain/GNU grammer checker for Unix systems,  
along the same lines as Ispell?

							Jake Blues
 
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From: krisk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Kris Klindworth)
Subject: Re: vi and columns
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:50:03 GMT

jspence@cmptrc.lonestar.org (John Spence) writes:

>I do not know is vi is the editor to do this task in or not, but I would
>like to know if it can be done in vi.

>I would like to change a column position to a character string in a
>range of columns. For example, I would like to change column 63 in 
>lines 40 through 55 to the string "foobar". In a sense, this would be
>a insert command rather than a substitution command.

There may be a cleaner procedure out their, but this is the way I 
work with fixed fields.

First I construct the search pattern.  This starts with .'s out to the column
I want to play with.  In your case you might use O[ESC] to create a blank
line and then 63i.[ESC] to insert 63 .'s as column holders (I'm assuming
that you really do want to replace column 63 with foobar).  

...............................................................

Then, I use \( \) combinations to mark off the parts I want to save in
the replacement pattern.  It is importants to work from the right to 
the left because doing it from left to right will shift the .'s away
from their proper column positions. 

\(..............................................................\).


Then, I fill in the rest of the command.

:40,55s/^\(..............................................................\)./\1foobar/

Finally, I delete the command line into a named buffer ("pdd) 
and execute the buffer (@p).  If the command didn't do quite what I wanted,
I undo it (u), put it back into the file ("pP), edit it, and run it again.


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From: wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:34:12 GMT

Most repliers to my posting seem to be that well accustomed to the fact 
that vi is a line editor that they didn't see my point when I wrote 
"arbitrary (!) block of text" (well, maybe "block" was misleading). This 
is not a block of lines (which is the unit of most vi operations) and 
since I referred to "elementary text editing tasks" I didn't mean columns 
either. Suppose I have the lines
	word1 word2 word1
	word3 word4 word3
and I need the text from "word2 " up to "word4" (assume it's a sentence) 
to be copied or moved elsewhere.If an editor cannot do this with a 
simple command sequence (and without the search trick burdening me with 
the task of counting the occurences of the word following my sentence 
within my sentence, if it can be done that way at all), I just do not 
call it a text editor.
Have a nice week-end.
Thomas
wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de
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From: hansm@cs.kun.nl (Hans Mulder)
Subject: Re: help in vi
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:34:13 GMT

In <1992Nov10.070239.16698@dragon.acadiau.ca> 911288c@dragon.acadiau.ca (EDwin Chung) writes:

>	how would i map a key to make :wq to save a copy of
>	the ordinary file and save a new one ??

Create a file named .exrc in your home directory with the text

map K :write! %.bak^M

(The ^M should a control-M.  Type control-V control-M to produce it.)

Then typing a K in command mode will save a backup copy of the buffer
in a file named current-file-name.bak .

--
Hope this helps,

Hans Mulder			hansm@cs.kun.nl
From: mit@huie.hokudai.ac.jp (Kazufumi-MIT-Mitani)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Sam's bug?
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:21:48 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Info. Eng., Hokkaido Univ., Sapporo Japan.jp

I got Sam from research.att.com and make it.

when I type sam -h, it dumps core. 
so I check source code and  found a bug.

in sam/sam.c line 80
                        dprint("sam: unknown flag %c\n", argv[1][1]);

should be
                        dprint("sam: unknown flag %c\n", argv[0][1]);

isn't it?

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mit@huie.hokudai.ac.jp
From: jrd@bnr.co.uk (J.R.Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: VI: global macro?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:05:45 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.55


Quick question: I have a macro, 'g' say, which manipulates one line
of a file (the current line).  How do I apply this macro to each
line in the file?

Please reply by email.

	Thanks in advance,

			-jrd


        John Davis  ( J.R.Davis@bnr.co.uk +44 (0)279 429531 Ext 3618 )
From: robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Missing tagstack feature in Elvis
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:12:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Sami-Jaakko Tikka (sti@phantom.cs.hut.fi) wrote:
: Some vendors have inlcuded a 'tagstack' feature in their vi and one is
: also available for emacs.  I was kind of taken aback when I noticed
: that elvis didn't have it.
: 
: Has someone implemented it for elvis or would someone familiar with
: the internals of elvis care to make a stab at it?  Perhaps Steve
: Kirkendall is listening?  (Hint, hint, nudge, nudge)

I've sent Steve patches for a tagstack in elvis (^T,:pop!,:psh!).

Does anybody know if it made it into 1.6?

If it hasn't I'll put it in yet again when 1.6 gets here.

Rob.
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From: heinz@marvin.tuwien.ac.at (Heinz Herbeck)
Subject: Re: How to quote % in vi/ex ': ' escape
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:30:01 GMT

In <Bx97Dq.43x@sci.kun.nl> hansm@cs.kun.nl (Hans Mulder) writes:

>But \% does.

Arrgh ! Not in a thousand years would I have thought of something that
simple, straightforward and obvious :-)

>ObQuiz: find a situation where you need to quote a character with \^V .

:%s/$/\^V^M to add a CR at the end of each line, while :%s/$/^V^M gives
you extra LFs.

Now where's my quiz price ? :-)

>Have a nice day,
>Hans Mulder			hansm@cs.kun.nl

Thanks for your help (and to all others who responded),

MfG
HH

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From: tima@sequent.com (Timothy Alan Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Whatever happened to SPE (Sage Professional Editor)?
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:59:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov6.165910.19397
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

Whatever happened to SPE? Apparently during the 3 mergers with
Polytron/Sage/Intersolv the Sage Professional Editor got swept under
the carpet. My boss just fell in love with it...

<place rose coloured glasses on>
Wouldn't it be nice if companies that killed products 
released the source code to the world for the greater good of mankind?
<remove rose coloured glasses>

tima@sequent.com
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: "ED" from Soft As It Gets
From: Murray_Moffatt@kcbbs.gen.nz (Murray Moffatt)
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:21:18 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

I was reading the Australia / New Zealand issue of Borland Connection 
and saw an ad for an editor called "ED" (imaginative name, huh?).  Apparantly 
it comes in DOS and Windows versions, and is meant to be really hot 
stuff by the look of the quotes they printed in the ad (eg "ED has obviously 
been well thought out by a software developer as a 'dream come true' 
tool for other sofwtare developers" - UK British Aerospace, Aug 92, 
"ED is _the_ most comprehensive, flexible, tailourable and productive 
editor the evaluation team has ever seen. It far excels editors such 
as Brief, Winedit, Qedit..." - UK British Aerospace, Aug 92).

I've been thinking of buying a decent editor for my PC (DOS based, I 
don't like Windows) and I was leaning towards Brief because of its builtin 
programming language (I'm used to using the Prime version of Emacs at 
work, with its PEEL language), but if this ones better...  Has anybody 
seen it?  The ad said it was "developed by: Soft As It Gets Pty Ltd", 
which I guess is an Ausi company.
   

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From: smw@wikki.b17c.ingr.com (mike wixson)
Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
Reply-To: smw@wikki.b17c.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:36:50 GMT

In article <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de>, wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) writes:
|> ...it is not even capable of performing one of the most elementary 
|> text editing tasks: marking an arbitrary (!) block of text and by some 
|> means copying or moving it to another place.

Since when?

|> 
|> Thomas
|> wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de

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From: bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche)
Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
Organization: MetaPro Systems, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 01:56:44 GMT

In <1992Nov3.155032.29510@pegasus.com>
   richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) writes:

>>From the keyboard of aswx266@chpc.utexas.edu (Michael Lemke):
>>:In article <1992Oct28.214551.21668@wixer.cactus.org> rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes:
>>:>9118543@sunvax.sun.ac.za writes:
>>:>>Is there no better editor for UNIX than VI?
>>:>>I mean... what happened to the good old full screen ones?

>>:>psst.  vi is full screen; 

>>:head -24 is full screen ;-)

>Emacs is full scream!

Emacs is full /dev/kmem, /dev/swap and /dev/keymap -- as we
descend into yet another editors war! :-)

Still, what does one expect of an operating system
masquerading as an editor?
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From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: vile vs xvi, has anybody compared them already?
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: DEAD DODA'S HOME
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:45:22 GMT

Ronald van Loon (rvloon@cv.ruu.nl) wrote:
: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea) writes:
: |
: | Use __hpux when compiling HP-UX code.
: 
: According to the manual, hpux is guarantueed to be defined when compiling
: under hp-ux.

This was discussed in news.software.readers in the summer and the general
concensus was that __hpux was the best define to use. I believe this was
for HPUX 8.0. For older versions hpux may be Ok.

Iain

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From: solensky@andr.UB.com (Frank T Solensky)
Subject: RTF editors for X/View?
Followup-To: comp.editors
Reply-To: solensky@andr.UB.com
Organization: Ungermann-Bass Inc./Andover, MA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:13:38 GMT

Anyone know of a RTF (Rich Text Format) editor for X/View or OpenLook v2?

We've got some folks here on Suns that need to exchange and integrate documents
with others running Microsoft Word on MacIntosh (System 7 or 6) and MS Windows.
One approach has been to use a MacIntosh software emulation (s6 only) on the
workstations, but the performace has been slower than some of us would like.
Since the task at hand is to create documents and not emulate Macs and I expect
the probability of seeing "Word for X/View" in the near future is about as high
as (to borrow from Jay Leno) seeing Pope Sinead, I'm hoping to find something
that will let me create RTF files directly on the workstation and save the
overhead of the software emulation.

Please respond by email, since the news system here has a _very_ tiny disk and
ages out articles in some groups that are as old as two days.

Thanks in advance..						-- Frank
From: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: summary (short!-): xvi vs vile
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:27:30 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia


Here's what little info I received on my xvi/vile comparison request.
xvi is: smaller, a bit more vi compatible (.exrc);
vile is ported to more platforms, has some X support, is faster, has
    no maximum line length

Some of xvi's current problems (e.g. porting to Hp/ux) will be solved
in a patch very soon.  Vile's author claims the pcvile version is not
very well-tested and might be unreliable.

From personal observation, I notice that vile's incompatibilities are
mostly in the field of macros and such, and it does them better (IMHO)
than vi (a semireadable command language!).

As you see, not much to go on, and to make choice even more difficult,
tlukka@vinkku.hut.fi says he's developing a THIRD program that will
be vi-compatible and offer windowing (as well as many, MANY other
extra features); it will be written from scratch in C++, although a
C version may also be distributed for people lacking a C++ compiler;
contact him directly for further info on that program.

Me, I still haven't decided... well, MUCH better to have the problem
of many good and similar editors, than not knowing where to find ONE!
So, thanks to the contributors to my survey, and MOST particularly
to the authors of vile, xvi, and further possible vi enriched clones!!!
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From: hollasch@kpc.com (Steve Hollasch)
Subject: Re: How to store tabstop in vi permanently??
Summary: Don't mess with tabstop, set swiftwidth instead.
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:01:16 GMT

"Ravi Parthasarathy <ravi@blore.b30.ingr.COM>" writes:
| How does one change the default tabstop in vi?
| presently, i am typing in :set tabstop=4 while edititng a file. I would like
| to set this value and vi should come up with this tabstop everytime it is
| ivoked.

    I strongly recommend that you leave tabstops at the default 8 spaces,
since the convention for printers, tty devices, and just about everything
else in the world interprets a tab character as 8 spaces.

    Instead, change the "shiftwidth" setting in vi to whatever indentation
level you want (I use 4).  Then you use ^T and ^D in vi to indent and
unindent, respectively.

    To do this, you can either include

        setenv EXRC "set sw=4"

in your .login file (I'm assuming you use csh), or you can create a file
called .exrc in your home directory with the line

        set sw=4

I recommend the .exrc file, because it's much easier to add macros and other
settings to this file.  vi will use this file unless there's a .exrc file in
the current directory (so you can have other vi settings for a certain
directory).

______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Hollasch                                   Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
hollasch@kpc.com                                 Santa Clara, California
Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: hollasch@kpc.com (Steve Hollasch)
Subject: Re: An Unusual question....
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:03:46 GMT

msluyter@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Michael Sluyter) writes:
| Here's a question which may not belong in this group, but I wasn't sure where
| else to post it.  It's a typing question.  Not being a formally trainded 
| typist, I was wondering if anyone out there used their third finger on 'r'.
| Normally I use my index finger, but the 'rt' combination is so frequent that
| at times it seems easier to use the third finger on 'r' and then the index
| on 't'.  Is there an "officially sanctioned" method?  Once again, my
| apologies if there was a better place to post this question.  

    NO!!!!  THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED PRACTICE!

    Whatever you do in the privacy of your home is your business, but if you
EVER do this on the job, you'll be out of work in no time at all.  I won't
even _begin_ to go into the legal and ethical ramifications of this issue.

______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Hollasch                                   Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
hollasch@kpc.com                                 Santa Clara, California
Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: keithv@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Vetter)
Subject: Yet another FMT problem
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:01:20 GMT

I've tried using the solution in the FAQ to format paragraphs, namely
:!}fmt
but when I do this I get the error message:
}fmt: Command not found.

I really do have it.  In fact if I do    map F !}fmt ^[
it works fine.

Any ideas?  (my .cshrc file doesn't do anything weird)

Keith