HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: chuck@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Charles Rissmeyer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dead Battery (WAS: Safety of auto battery for power?)
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:22:02 GMT
Reply-To: chuck@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Charles Rissmeyer)
Organization: StPaul

>johnr@mik.uky.edu (john s roberts) writes:
>
>> I
>> have heard about putting old nicads in the freezer, but would this work for
>> a marine battery?  Hope this doesn't start something like the concrete 
>> discussion....
>

Hmm, you can put nicads in freezers to rejuvenate them?  Is this another old
hams tale or what?  I've successfully brought 12 volt nicad packs back to life
by giving them a quick jolt of 100 VDC; haven't had one blow up yet.  Better
make sure there aren't any caps or diodes connected to em when you do it though.

I once put an old piece of concrete on top of a car battery, and within a week, 
the concrete began to look refreshed.

Charles (Chuck) Rissmeyer    KE0VG
(612) 638-7669  (VP 652-7669) -  charles.rissmeyer@StPaul.NCR.COM
NCR - An AT&T Company             NCR  CCS-PM&S NPD St. Paul
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mac Sat program
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:46:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

Burris, Dean E. writes:
> I am looking for an FTP site that contains a Mac satellite
> tracking program.  

Check out sumex-aim.stanford.edu.  Under info-mac, 
in the app subdirectory, you will find Sat-Trak, a 
really splendid shareware satellite tracking program.
Good luck & 73...

Mike, N4PDY

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From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: kerchunking repeaters
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:28:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, wejones@crdec7.apgea.army.mil (Bill Jones) writes:

>   Well I get annoyed as the next guy at listening to all the
>kerchunking, but is it really illegal?  

I think it's pretty clear that unidentified kerchunking is technically
illegal.  On the other hand, I don't understand why people get so upset
over it.  Oh, of course one shouldn't kerchunk a repeater over and over --
that gets old real fast.  But it has always seemed to me that a quick
kerchunk to see if you can hit the repeater is less disruptive than
transmitting "This is N1AL testing" or some such.  I think the reason
a lot of people do it is they don't want to talk to anybody, but if they
give their call and someone replies, it would be rude not to come back.

AL N1AL

97.119 (a):
     ... No station may transmit unidentified communications or signals ...
                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: seymour@ast.saic.com (Ken Seymour)
Subject: Re: Beginner
Keywords: getting started
Organization: SAIC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:23:09 GMT

In article <2ad8a8dc-2e53rec.radio.amateur.misc@vpnet.chi.il.us> akcs.plato@vpnet.chi.il.us (Daniel Lindahl) writes:
>
>I'm an absolute beginner to the Amateur Radio world, and I 
>know very little about the best ways to go about setting 
>myself up with equiptment and finding local support in the
>Chicago area (western suburbs).  I'm about ready to test for
>Novice and Technician with the CW test and all, but I don't 
>know where to test or if there are local organizations for
>Amateur operators.  Actually, I'm sure there are, but I
>wouldn't know where to start.  Can any of you veterans help?
>
>                                  DRL
>

From the FAQ:


   To locate an ARRL testing session in your area, you can contact
   ARRL at 203-666-1541 x282.

-- 
Ken Seymour
seymour@ast.saic.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: iain@vision.rs.ch (Iain Campbell)
Subject: Re: Kenwood TH28A Mods (here they are)
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Radio Schweiz AG.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:16:28 GMT


I bought a couple of TH28A's recently in the States and the guy in the shop
did the mods for me on the spot.

The features I have on the radios are those described by the recent
postings..

Rx     AM  118.000 - 135.995
Tx/Rx  FM  136.000 - 173.995
Rx     FM  340.000 - 399.995   (Not 360-.. as in a previous posting)
Rx     FM  400.000 - 519.995


Note: The poor thing does not like being tuned much over 500 MHz, it beeps
at you in complaint.


Here are the diode settings that are in my radios:


             |
  o o o o    |
  | | | |    |   I.C.
  o o o o    |
             |_______________


             o o o o
                 |  
             o o o o



I can therefore confirm that the above freq. ranges and the above diode 
settings definitely work !!


Cheers,

Iain.

___________________________________________________________________________
Iain Campbell                                        iain@vision.rs.ch
Radio Schweiz AG                                     iain@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
Laupenstrasse 18a
3008 Bern                                            Tel: +41 (0)31 509 855
Switzerland                                          Fax: +41 (0)31 509 675
___________________________________________________________________________
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:16950 rec.radio.amateur.policy:1775 alt.cd-rom:3633 misc.consumers:17774
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.cd-rom,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:26:16 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon

Jon Gefaell is poorly informed on consumer law:

	"You can return ANYTHING within 30 days and pay nothing. All
	you need do is call your credit card company, indicate that you
	are 'unsatisfied' with your purchase.  You can return ANYTHING
	within 30 days and pay nothing. All you need do is call your
	credit card company, indicate that you are 'unsatisfied' with
	your purchase. Then ship the offending item back to the vendor,
	get a shipping receipt (insure the package optionaly, I send it
	back COD) and mail a copy of the purchase and return shipping
	receipt."

There is nothing in the law or in the credit card banks' regulations
that requires a merchant to comply with this scenario.  Perhaps Jon is
confused about the "failure to perform" clause, under which you can
contest a credit card charge if you never got the merchandise in the
first place.

	"This is federal law. This is why direct marketing (mail order)
	ALWAYS offers '30 days satisfaction guarantee!' It's Federal
	Credit Law."

No, it's not.  And many mail order merchants don't offer this guarantee.
They don't have to.  Perhaps Jon is thinking of the FTC regulation
requiring shipment within thirty days of payment.  But once the
consumer has received the merchandise, the FTC bows out.

	"Common sense will avoid these sad stories as we've read here.
	Protect your rights!"

Indeed.  Begin by understanding those rights.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Scanner Cellular Ban becomes law (NY Times bad mouths hams too)
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:53:27 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

The bill (section 9 of an FCC funding bill I think) that bans the
manufacture or importation of radio scanners that can eavesdrop on
cellular telephones was passed by both houses of congress and signed
by the President.  This according to the 10/9 New York Times.

So, guess this should make any existing scanner go up a few bucks on the
resale market :-)

In the mean time all those unsuspecting (ie. stupid) people will now
think they have privacy.  What a joke.

As Robert Grove, publisher of "Monitoring Times" was quoted, "all
it (the law) will probably do is stimulate the market for add-on
frequency converters" that restore cellular listening capabilities.

In contrast, John Rosch, chairman of Radio Shack said "the
legislation will be simple and inexpensive fpr Tandy to comply with.
It's positive legislation."

Oh yes, and how does the NY Times view the amateur radio operator?
I quote from the story by Anthony Ramirez, "Such eavesdropping (of
cellular telephones) an increasingly popular pastime among possibly
millions of HAM RADIO OPERATORS (my emphasis in capitals) and
other hobbyists, has unnerved cellular customers and outraged privacy
advocates."

The story appears on page D3 of today's Times (10/9/92).

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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Need help with relay driver circuit
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:37:02 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1992Oct9.114958.43705@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> heacock@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Doug Heacock) writes:
>I built a sidetone oscillator/relay keyer for my Drake TR3 HF
>transceiver, using a pair of 2N2222's as NPN switches.  One of them
>switches on a 555-based audio-frequency sidetone oscillator, the other
>one is a relay driver.  Everything worked fine on the breadboard.
>Everything worked fine when I built it into a case.  Then I plugged it
>into the rig and tried keying the rig with it.  As soon as I closed
>the key, the relay latched up and wouldn't release.
>
>I went back to the article that inspired the project, an article in
>the ARRL publication, _QRP Classics_, on electronic switching.  The
>text recommended putting two diodes in series with the emitter of the
>relay driver transistor, to establish a reverse bias that would
>prevent leakage current from keeping the relay coil energized.  I made
>this modification and tried it again.  At first I thought the problem
>was solved, but I found that if I increased the output of my
>transmitter much beyond about 35 watts (into a dummy load), the relay
>latched up again.  Below that power output, the circuit worked fine.
>
>Anyone have any idea what's going on here?  The circuit seems to work
>just fine except when it is actually keying the transmitter.  Could it
>be that there is some RF energy that is keeping the relay coil
>energized?  If so, how can I get rid of it?  Suggestions?

Your suspicion is exactly right. You are getting RF back into the 
keying circuit. That RF is being rectified by the keying transistor
junction and series diodes and is holding the transistor energized.
The solution is rather simple. Use shielded cable between the *metal*
cabinet of the keying adapter and the radio, use a choke and bypass
capacitor in the keying line where it enters the adapter cabinet,
and place a leadless bypass capacitor between the keying transistor
base and emitter.

Gary KE4ZV
From: rossi@gvlf9-q.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: kerchunking repeaters
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:56:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp (A Unisys Company), Great Valley Labs, PA

In article <1bks2bINNoi2@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>Actually, kerchunking is the one behaviour that absolutely sets the
>professionals apart from the amateurs - the professionals KNOW that
>their radio is going to work, that the repeater is going to work,
>and that they can simply pick up the microphone and make a call.
>
>It's the amateur whose equipment has proven so unreliable that it has to
>be tested every time it needs to be used.

I am more concerned about the repeater working.  I know about my radio, but
I'm not sure about some repeaters.

There is a BIG difference between a quick "kerchunk" before making a call
to make sure that the repeater is up an you are getting in compared to the
idiot who sits there all evening and "kerchunks" every 5 minutes cause he
has nothing better to do.

=================================================================
Pete Rossi - WA3NNA                  rossi@gvl.unisys.com

Paramax Systems Corporation - a Unisys Company
Electronic Systems - Valley Forge Labs - Paoli, Pennsylvania
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: sam@wa4phy.ampr.org (Sam Drinkard)
Subject: Re: Should we cancel these users?
Organization: Garden City Gateway, Augusta, GA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:50:58 GMT

Bruce@Pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:

>I have been watching the heated dialogue coming from these users:

>	jgd@dixie.com - John De Armond
>	ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk - Alasdair Grant

>The postings were titled "FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor(John De Armond)".

>These postings are no longer appropriate for this newsgroup. I assume  
>their system managers are not responsible for them, or their postings  
>would not have left their sites.

>If there is a positive consensus to do so, I will fire up an auto-cancel  
>program on their news postings. Mail votes to bruce@pixar.com .

>						Bruce Perens

I think I appreciate the fact that somebody has the balls to call a spade
a spade.  We don't need fly-by-nighters at hamfests.  Thanks for the tip
John.

Sam..

-- 
     Sam Drinkard		internet: wa4phy!sam@galois.nscf.org
     WA4PHY			amprnet:  wa4phy@wa4phy.ampr.org
From: isoper@matrix.cs.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Barry Electronics in NYC et al...
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:20:59 GMT
Organization: Wright State University College of Engineering and Computer Science
Nntp-Posting-User: isoper

> 
> 	Hey, weren't you the HAM who started the bad check thing?
> 
> +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
> |  Andrew Chaboty   |  achaboty@desire.wright.edu   |   Why in the world    |
> |   "Gamahuche"     |   Wright State University     | would I want to speak |
> |     KB8LUQ        |        Dayton, Ohio           | for this university?  |
> +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+

	Hey, weren't you the HAM who started the Hamvention trashing thing?

73, Wes Soper WB8CEH
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: W5YI report..
Date: 17 Oct 92 04:33:51 GMT
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

I do not favor _reducing_ requirements but I would favor _modernizing_
them.  We are no longer training the Signal Corps for WW I.  Replace those
higher-speed CW requirements with tests on digital data communication.
It's pathetic how a person can get a ham license right now with no knowledge
of anything invented after 1960.

-- 
:- Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
:- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
:- Athens, Georgia 30602 U.S.A.          amateur radio N4TMI
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: using cheaper car batteries
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:04:57 GMT

If you are using a standard car battery to power a transceiver as I did
for many years, put a computer 12 volt, 3 amp. power supply across it.
Set the voltage output for 13.6 volts or whatever voltage you think your
battery likes better.  The power supply will provide all the current
on recieve and part on transmit.  The battery only supplies peak current
for transmit.  With the voltage regulated PS, you won't overcharge the
battery.  Since there is no deep discharge, unless you talk for 24 hours
straight without receiving, the car battery does just fine and will last
for many years.  You will probably have to clean the terminals occasionally.
K9ALD
From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Charles Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Plans to build transceivers.
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:51:40 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Oct8.023159.24448@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
|> In article <91913@netnews.upenn.edu> yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) writes:
|> >
|> >I would like to build a rig which good to great RF performance.  I
|> >have very little interest in memories and all the latest bells and
|> >whistles.
|> 
|> Well first you find a pair of 6146s.......
|> 
|> Gary

NO NO Gary!!  This is the solid state era.  You buy two, yes two, 2N2222A's.

;-)

BTW I did finish the A&A, Oakhills Research, Tejas RF Technology,
and MXM Industries QRP rigs.  For the inquiring minds.......

Chuck Adams   K5FO at faster than a speeding bullet  70+wpm
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: comptec91006@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Michael Botten)
Subject: Help with inductors...
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:37:46 GMT

I need to make a 0.5 uh coil but I have no idea what kind of wire to use and
how many turn will be required.  Can anyone help?

                                                  VE7GRI  /\/\ike
From: rick@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: UseNet is *not* a 'right'.
Summary: Was: No, I Wont be Starting an Auto Canceller
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:37:04 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <9210151411.AA41b9@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com>
	cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.COM writes:
[...]
>The likelyhood that I'll ever agree with John is vanishingly small, but
>he is entitled to his say here, as are we all.

Alan makes a *serious* (though common) mistake here...

*NO* *ONE* is "entitled" to have a say on the UseNet.  It's *not* a 'right',
it's a *privelidge* granted to each user on an individual basis by whoever
*owns* the machine by which that user accesses 'the net'.

SOME sites (governmentally funded) have a responsibility to provide equal
service to all of their users.  Still, those sites have every right to be
equally restrictive if they so desire.  There are a lot of politics along
with theses special sites, but it still comes down to the same thing...

You don't have any 'right' to anything you haven't personally payed for.
Anything beyond that is strictly 'privelidge'.
---
It has been justly observed that ignorance is preferable to error.N.Webster
Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
---
P.S.:  If I've been misspelling "privelidge", at least I've been consistant.
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From: heacock@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Doug Heacock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Need help with relay driver circuit
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:49:58 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I built a sidetone oscillator/relay keyer for my Drake TR3 HF
transceiver, using a pair of 2N2222's as NPN switches.  One of them
switches on a 555-based audio-frequency sidetone oscillator, the other
one is a relay driver.  Everything worked fine on the breadboard.
Everything worked fine when I built it into a case.  Then I plugged it
into the rig and tried keying the rig with it.  As soon as I closed
the key, the relay latched up and wouldn't release.

I went back to the article that inspired the project, an article in
the ARRL publication, _QRP Classics_, on electronic switching.  The
text recommended putting two diodes in series with the emitter of the
relay driver transistor, to establish a reverse bias that would
prevent leakage current from keeping the relay coil energized.  I made
this modification and tried it again.  At first I thought the problem
was solved, but I found that if I increased the output of my
transmitter much beyond about 35 watts (into a dummy load), the relay
latched up again.  Below that power output, the circuit worked fine.

Anyone have any idea what's going on here?  The circuit seems to work
just fine except when it is actually keying the transmitter.  Could it
be that there is some RF energy that is keeping the relay coil
energized?  If so, how can I get rid of it?  Suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
-- 
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| Doug Heacock, Academic Computing   | heacock@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu |
| Services, The University of Kansas | heacock@ukanvax.bitnet     |
| Lawrence, KS 66045                 | Amateur radio: N0NZQ       |
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No, I won't be starting an auto-canceller
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:06:26 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1992Oct14.185843.19021@pixar.com> bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:
>The vote was strongly against auto-cancelling those two users.
>
>It would have been interesting if I'd gotten a majority vote to cancel
>them: with a majority vote I probably could have gotten away with it, and
>it would have changed Usenet policy. We still need some kind of
>self-regulation system that lies between moderated groups and total
>anarchy.
>					Bruce Perens

It certainly would have started a war, with *your* messages being
cancelled as fast as your system could generate them.

Gary KE4ZV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,news.answers
From: dfh@sumac14.cray.com (Don Hanenberger)
Subject: Help - JOTA - Prescott, Az.
Originator: dfh@sumac14
Keywords: JOTA 
Reply-To: dfh@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc., Eagan, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:01:41 CDT


If you are not in Prescott, Az. please hit delete now -----------------

I am a Webelos patrol leader and a ham.  I will have the members of my
patrol active in JOTA on Sunday of this weekend.  One of the members
wanted to be active, but will be in Prescott, Az. over the weekend.

I apologize for the short fuse request, but is there an amateur in
Prescott, Az. who will have a station on the air for the Scouts' Jamboree
on the Air and would be willing to have a guest Scout in your shack?

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

73,

Don Hanenberger
WA0RUF
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Cray Research, Inc.                  My comments, not my company's.
Multiprocessing Software Section     
655F Lone Oak Drive                  ARPA: dfh@cray.com
Eagan, MN 55121                      UUCP: uunet!cray!dfh
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