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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Cheaper (Non-SUN) CD-ROM drives work
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 20:25:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.185852.4634@sdc.com> emike@sdc.com (E. Mike Durbin) writes:
>>gordon@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Gordon Vickers) writes:
>>
>>>       Using the DEC CD-ROM worked perfectly at installing Solaris 1.1
>>>    'Unrecognized vendor : DEC .....' message but so what, there are no
>>>   ill effects from this.
>
>Edit /usr/sys/scsi/targets/st_conf.c and add your device.  Then you will
>no longer see the 'Unrecongized vendor' message.

Is this a good idea? st_conf.c defines SCSI *tape* drives and their 
characteristics, of which the vendor identification string is only one
small part. I would be cautious about putting a CD-ROM definition in here. 
It might then recognize the device, but it might also interfere with the
driver. I have no idea how the kernel would handle getting the ID string
from a tape database, but using the driver code for a disk.

In theory, since the device is defined as a disk in the kernel configuration
file, you ought to be OK. But you'd want to test it thoroughly first, and 
most of the information you'd be putting in st_conf.c would, of course, be 
meaningless. Note that if you don't have any tape drives in your kernel
configuration, st_conf.c probably won't even get built in.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Synchronous and asynchronous SCSI periphs under SunOS 4.1.*
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:29:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: pogo.hanson.719180979
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.fnal.gov

This all sounds squirrely to me.  I am right NOW sitting at a machine
with a Wren VII, an Archive, a CDROM, an exabyte, and an internal
drive.  We run mixtures of sync and async devices on LOTS
of Sun machines.  I suspect your problem is that SOMETHING in 
your cabling, etc is flaky enough that you just plain can't run
synchronous reliably.  I don't know of any particular problem with
this with any SunOS release.  You might have some defective hardware
as well.  I don't think you are seeing a generic problem.  Just my
two cents worth.
-- 
Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.
hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Subject: Re: 40% discount on Sun workstation system?
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:52:25


>>>>> "Zhao" == Z. Zhao (zhao@nmsu.edu)

Zhao> I was very surprised to read that
Zhao> 	--- you can always get 40% discount for a SUN SPARC
Zhao> 	workstation --
Zhao> from PC Magazine of May, 1992. Any body in the net knows where and
Zhao> how to get that? (I mean new one, not used one :)

Sun, like all other "big" hardware companies use virtual prices. The
have a list price, and all sorts of discounts. The idea is that
everybody believe they are something special and should get a
discount. By having high list prices companies can offer everyone
"special low price, just for you". They have developer discount,
student discount, university discount, publishing industry discount,
etc etc.

It's all getting quite absurd, since all you know is that published
prices are just random numbers and whatever you pay you are probably
fucked. It has gotten to the point where in the UK, Dell (mailorder
PClown vendor) where taken to court by Compaq (another PClown vendor)
because Dell's marketing claimed Dell was cheaper then Compaq based on
a comparison of list prices. The court ruled that comparing list
prices is unfair marketing since everyone knows that you do not really
pay the list price (unless you are dealing with a mailorder company,
that is).

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Subject: time zone
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:12:01 GMT


How do you reset the time zone on a Sun box?


--
James W. Meritt:  m23364@mwunix.mitre.org - or - jmeritt@rod.mitre.org
The opinions above are mine.  If anyone else wants to share them, fine.
They may say so if they wish. The facts "belong" to noone and simply are.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: Qualix Portable mail : how good/bad is it?
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:48:18 GMT

Many of us dial in to our Suns to read mail. Sometimes we
are on the road so we need to make long distance calls. I came
across "Portable mail" from Qualix which allows me to download
the mail from Sun to PC, then I can reply,delete,send mails and
again call back to upload the changes I made. How good is this
product and are there any other good products which does the
same work?

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Programming FKEYs?
Keywords: SPARC SUN FKEY XTERM
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:39:36 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Can I (and if so, How do I) program the F1 through F12 function keys on
>my Sparc IPC (and the "Function Keys" item under the Utilities menu in
>OpenWindows 3.0)?  I would like to program them such that when pressed
>they will send out a character sequence to my favorite terminal windows
>(Shelltool, cmdtool, xterm, etc.)  The manuals that I have don't say
>anything about doing this

Today's lesson is brought to you by the letters "X" (as in "X11") and
"s" (as in the "s" at the end of "manuals" - there's more than one
manual page to see here).

There's no generic X11 mechanism for programming function keys.  It's up
to the individual X11 application to interpret the key events it gets. 
"shelltool" and "cmdtool" should handle that with the ".ttyswrc" file;
see the SHELLTOOL(1) manual page.  "xterm" should handle that with
"translations" in your ".Xdefaults" file; see the XTERM(1) manual page,
and possibly the documentation on the Xt Intrinsics, if necessary.
From: dcb@slsvitt (David Binderman 3841)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: shared linker problems
Summary: Don't eat the yellow snow
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:40:46 GMT
Organization: SEL-Alcatel LTS Dept. US/ES
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hello there,

I have a SunOs 4.1.1 box.

Whenever I do a link on shared libraries, ld.so checks version numbers.

Of course the version numbers don't match up, and it displays a
warning message, but it still does the link.

What flag can I give the linker to stop the warning ?

Of course, its not for me, its for this brain damaged application which
requires the linker to produce zero lines of output for a successful link.

BTW, I have RTFM. 

Regards
--
David C Binderman     Dept US/ESI, Bau 60, SEL-Alcatel AG, Lorenz Strasse 10,
D-7000 Stuttgart 40, Germany      dcb@us-es.sel.de   Tel: +49 711 821 3841
If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge
From: farquhar@cs.utexas.edu (Adam Farquhar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: mapping Caps_Lock to Control on type 5 keyboard
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:02:29 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: xmodmap, how to do it?

We have recently acquired a sparc 10 which has the new Type 5
keyboard.  Unfortunately, the new keyboard has a large Caps_Lock key
where the Type 4 keyboard had the Control key (and it has a tiny
return key, and an unreachable esc key, sigh).

I don't believe that I have ever intentionally used a Caps_Lock key in
my life, and I would like very much to remap the key so that I could
use it as a Control key.

I have tried several ways to remap the key using xmodmap, but without
success.  I have been able to:
  1. disable the caps lock key (by using clear Lock), and
  2. turn it into a control key toggle!  Press it once, and all keys
     are interpreted as control chars, press it again and none of them
     are.

I would greatly appreciate it if any could tell me how to correctly
remap the key. 

Thanks,

	Adam Farquhar.
From: dpl@aber.ac.uk (David Philip Langstaff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Changing Timezone
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:05:01 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <14924@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>>Many thanks to everyone who wrote pointing out that I should...
>>
>>cd /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo
>>rm localtime
>>ln GB-Eire localtime
>
>If everyone (or almost everyone) who wrote pointed out that you should
>do that, then it appears that "zic -l" is a *REALLY* obscure feature.
>

From what I've been able to deduce, zic is a compiler (of sorts), taking a
text file defining various salient aspects of a timezone and producing a
binary which unix can use (tzfile(5)).

The file GB-Eire on our system is a tzfile, produced by 
the zic program. Thus running zic on the GB-Eire file gives error messages
whereas the 3 line solution above works fine.

thanks anyway


-- 
Dave Langstaff | Janet:dpl@uk.ac.aber
Any views expressed are those of the author alone. | Phone:(0970)622838 
After-life, After-shave, don't hold with any of it, bleugh! - Sir Henry 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: venkat@vidcom.csc.ti.com (Venkat Venkateswar)
Subject: 24-bit SUNs -- can software take advantage of the display?
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:44:31 GMT

I am considering getting a 24-bit SUN. My main concern is whether existing
software can take advantage of the 24-bit display or are most of them
restricted to just 8-bits. The software that I am strongly concerned about
is X WINDOWS/MOTIF. I plan to display 24-bit images on the display using
programs like xv etc.



Venkat
From: meuser@ipi.uni-hannover.de (Heinz-Friedrich Meuser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Netfax / ZyXEL on SPARC2
Keywords: netfax zyxel
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:53:41 GMT
Reply-To: meuser@ipi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: IPI, University of Hannover

Has anyone ever tried to run a ZyXEL 1496E with netfax on a SPARCStation2 ?
When I try to send a fax, I get a connection with the other machine, but nothing is 
delivered. Does anybody know how to fix this problem ?

Btw, is there a software in the net that can determine if the incoming call is a data or fax call and take the appropriate action ?

Many thanks in advance
---

    Heinz-Friedrich Meuser
    Institut fuer Photogrammetrie und Ingenieurvermessungen
    Universitaet Hannover       
                                                       
    PHONE : +49-511-762-3893                           
    FAX   : +49-511-762-2483			      
    SMTP  : meuser@ipi.uni-hannover.de                

    						     
    
    
    
    
    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Sparc Assembler
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:12:02 GMT

In article <2ADD9693.22131@news.service.uci.edu> jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien) writes:
>In article <STEINAR.HAUG.92Oct15134513@delab.sintef.no>, Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) writes:
>|> > Can anybody tell me where to find a good introduction/reference to the
>|> > Sparc assembler language ?
>|> 
>|> I strongly recommend the following book:
>|> 
>|> 	The SPARC Architecture Manual, Version 8
>|> 	SPARC International, 1992
>|> 	ISBN 0-13-825001-4
>|> 	Published by Prentice-Hall, Inc.
>|> 
>|> The book can be obtained directly from your friendly nearby bookstore, or
>|> directly from SPARC International.

This book is almost required reading to write Sparc assembly.

>The only other thing I could find is the Sun-4 Assembly Language Reference
>Manual from SunSoft. But I didn't find it very useful, at least not for what
>I want to do.

If you're serious about Sparc assembly you'll need both.

The SPARC Architecture Manual is the most important one, because it gives
the detailed information about what the instructions do, how delay slots are
handled, etc. It's not exactly a beginner's guide, though -- it's written
for people who know about assembly in general and are looking for the
specifics of Sparc. (I only have version 7, I don't know what they might have
changed/added for version 8).

The Sun-4 Assembly manual is needed because it tells you the actual
assembly notation the assembler supports (not always the same as what's
in the SPARC Architecture manual). It also list the numerous useful
pseudo-instructions the assembler supports, which the SAM doesn't talk
about. It's not of much use on it's own, though.

For a beginning introduction, there's a short guide in the Sun documentation
called something like "An introduction to RISC architectures". This explains
the register windows and is aimed at the more casual reader.

If you're going to interface your assembly to C, the easiest way to
find out the specifics of parameter passing is to look at the assembly
output from the C compiler. When there are more than 6 arguments, things
get done a little differently.

BTW: This is documented, but it bears repeating: DO NOT use the "-O"
     option with the assember on hand-written assembly code. It's only
     safe with code generated by Sun compilers.

                                          -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: mmap and files?
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:00:27 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

hr@spica.astro.uiuc.edu (Harold Ravlin) writes:

>Is it possible to extend a file using the mmap call? My experience and
>the part of the mmap section of the "System Services Overview" manual
>that discusses how to get SIGBUS violations indicated its not possible.
>One the other hand the sentence:
> "... the act of storing into a MAP_SHARED mapping is equivalent to doing
> a write() system call."
>seems to indicate otherwise. Perhaps they mean its equivalent except when
>it isn't.


>It is possible to do an lseek to the 'new' end of the file, poke a
>byte there then write to the mmap'ed array, but then I might just as
>well have used the write call in the first place.

>So,
> Can I extend a file using via an mmap'ed array or should I just use the
>write call?

You can use ftruncate() to set the new size of the file. Beware that
this technique will give you BUS errors when your disk is full.

Casper
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link)
Subject: Re: Software Support for Sun Clones
Organization: High Alititude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:03:06 GMT

In article <BOB.92Oct7140845@roughy.MorningStar.Com> bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.161046.6422@ncar.ucar.edu> rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link) writes:
>   And there are other annoying problems, like not being able to boot
>   a clone from a Sun CD-ROM, since the clone is looking for its own
>   boot info on the CD. The clone-maker response: we'll have our own
>   version of SunOS (4.1.2) *real soon now*.
>
>This machine is a Pinnacle Data Systems SPARCstation-2 clone, but only
>the pizza box came from Pinnacle.


Our problem is with an Opus Sparc-1 board. Our Opus workstation works
fine, however, and loads SunOS OK.

Cheers,
Rick
From: rlink@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Richard Link)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: mailing list: summary and Thanks!
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:40:11 GMT
Organization: High Alititude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO

Our router/mailer appears to be brain-dead and didn't recognize
half the addresses I tried to mail individual thanks.

So for all those who replied to my query regarding mailing list
aliases: THANKS VERY MUCH!

Most replies suggested putting a reference to the file into
/etc/aliases. See the man page for `aliases'.

My own solution was to rename the file to .forward, and then mailing
to myself. This works for those who don't have privelege to modify
/etc/aliases, or who may not want to.

But don't forget to rename .forward !!!!!

Thanks again,
Rick
From: gordon@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Gordon Vickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Cheaper (Non-SUN) CD-ROM drives work
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:30:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix



       A few months ago, I posted a request asking if I had to use
   Sun's (overly priced) CD-ROM.  All 12 or so responces were negative
   and I don't recall any that shead a ray of hope.

       B U T ......

       I had access to a much cheaper (D.E.C.) CD-ROM, and under the
   assumption that SCSI is fairly well defined these days, trying 
   the DEC CD-ROM wasn't likely to hurt it and I was certainly not going
   to damage the write only media, so ...

       Using the DEC CD-ROM worked perfectly at installing Solaris 1.1
   ( Sun OS 4.1.3 ) onto a SUN-4c .  There were absolutely no changes
   in the standard OS installation proceedures.  The
   system does bulk at each boot time with a message similar to :
    'Unrecognized vendor : DEC .....' message but so what, there are no
   ill effects from this.

       Everything went so well and smooth that had I access to a SCSI
   CD-ROM for DOS, I would have tried using it too.  Maybe someone
   else will.

       As with many things today, I would not be surprised if there are
   only a few actual manufactures with lots of other companies just
   slapping thier own lable (and cabinet) on it.

       Prehaps thoughs of you having access to other CD-ROM drives could
   see if they will boot the SUN installation media.  Just BE SURE NOT
   to answer any questions the installation media ask and instead, REBOOT.
   WARNING: If you have any doubts about when the installation 
   will actually begin scribbling to your system disk - DON'T TRY THE TEST.

   DISCLAIMER: While this test can be preformed safely, it is possiable
   for some folks who should not attempt this, to beleive that they are
   qualified to try. Try it at your own risk, your risk may be greater
   than mine. If you screw up, don't point any fingers in my direction.

    -Gordon Vickers
Gordon Vickers 408.734-2564
CompuAid Consulting, Sunnyvale,Ca.               gordon@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
The earth is a complex array of symbiotic relationships: Every extinction,
  whether animal, mineral, vegetable, or cultural hastens our own demise.
From: markl@spuddy.uucp (Mark Liversedge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Using nit
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:04:45 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain


I am having problems using nit to capture all frames from our LAN.
I am using a SPARCstation IPX and Sunos4.1.1.

Basically, I have the example code from the online man pages, plus 
a few headers and extra variables and it does not work...

1) When I bind the interface to nit should I use the device name "le0"
   Which is the only ether card I have :-)

2) What are the references to tflag and dflag ?

3) What does snaplen mean?

Basically, how does this thing work?????

(I have on-line manuals only, we have ordered paper ones.......)

If anyone out there has some juicy examples or can help me then email
and I will summarise and repost. If this is an FAQ then I apologise, I
am new to this newsgroup and my sysop has no saved list...
-- 

 * Meeeow ! Call Spuddy on (0203) 638780/638693 for FREE mail & Usenet access *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: toyama@ae.keio.ac.jp (Motomichi Toyama)
Subject: Re: ingres v 89 on sun 4/110 running sunos 4.1.1
Organization: Dept of Admin. Engineering, KEIO Univ., Yokohama Japan.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:12:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.195354.23746@colorado.edu> gordon@tramp.Colorado.EDU (GORDON ALLEN R) writes:

 >I've been trying to install ingres v 89 on my sun without success.  For 

Try 'ingres.patch.sparc' AND 'ingres.patch.sunos41'

IN directory

 pub/database

ON our anonymous ftp server

 ftp.ae.keio.ac.jp [131.113.36.12]

--
Motomichi Toyama (toyama@ae.keio.ac.jp) / Keio University, Yokohama Japan
From: mce5921@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Martin Emde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Audio Conversion Program Needed
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:07:57 GMT
Organization: Boeing

Does anyone out there know of an audio conversion program that
will convert a .snd file to format that is compatible with the
openwindows audiotool (.au format)?

Thanks (and please email)

-Martin
-- 
Martin C Emde  <mce5921@bcstec.boeing.com>  uunet!bcstec!mce5921 
Boeing Commercial Airplane Group - 777 Electrical Systems
Renton, Washington  USA
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Printing from SUN to IINTX
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:25:42 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Oct14.104126.22717@reks.uia.ac.be> wittesa@reks.uia.ac.be (Willy Wittesaele) writes:
<Hello ,
<
<We have a SUN-Sparc 2 (SunOS 4.1.1 Rev.B) but no printer is connected to
<it.
<In the same room we have an Apple IIci with Apple IINTX laserprinter 
<(connected via appletalk).
<
<What's the easiest way (necessary hardware & software) to let the SUN
<print to the IINTX ??
<
<The only constraint is that nothing should change for the apple users.

Personally I'd say forget it.  Apple programs like to preload some stuff
into the printer.  It is possible that this could be lost or cause problems
with the stuff you would send it from the SPARCstation.

While this is supposed to work, I just don't trust it.  Get your own printer
for the SPARCstation, you'll probably be a lot happier.
-- 
harvard\
  ucbvax!uwvax!astroatc!ftms!brown  or  uu2.psi.com!ftms!brown
rutgers/
INTERNET: brown@wi.extrel.com  or  ftms!brown%astroatc.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:4591 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:4709
From: hughes@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Hughes Doug)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Setting up UDP socket for broadcast
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:52:14 GMT
Reply-To: doug@happy.vf.ge.com
Organization: GE M&DSO - VF

In article <1992Oct9.203314.24657@knight.vf.ge.com>, doug@happy.vf.ge.com (Doug Hughes) writes:
> 
> I have set the SO_BROADCAST option using setsockopt on a udp DGRAM
> socket.  However, this has proved in sufficient to send a broadcast
> message.  What other steps need I do to send a broadcast message to
> port 2074 on all machine on the subnet?  I would prefer not to muck
> around with the nit_pf filters if possible. Though, if need be,
> I can do it this way.
>   Any help pointers would be appreciated
> -- 
> _____________________________________________________________
> Doug Hughes
> Software Developer - GE Aerospace (M&DSO), Valley Forge, PA
> doug@happy.vf.ge.com	or	hughes@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com

Never mind! I figured it out myself! I had set the host part to 255
but I had forgotten to set the subnet mask portion (we use a different
subnet mask than the default 255.255.255.0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: How to get access to INTERNET....
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:05:08 GMT

Hi,

We are currently UUNET subscribers. We are seriously
considering to get on the internet. We are in Frederick,
Maryland. Is there anyway for our company to get access
to internet without spending too much on long distance calls?

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com