From: kitagawa@will.ntt.jp (Masahiro Kitagawa)
Subject: List of proposed charters for fj.life.in-japan [English + Japanese]
Followup-To: fj.news.group
Organization: NTT Basic Research Labs., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: 22 Aug 1992 20:48:42 GMT

ABSTRACT: I would like to list the charters proposed in the
discussions in the hope that it might contribute to make our
discussions more constructive towards the creation of
fj.life.in-japan.

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WHY charter again
-----------------

Some people are unhappy with the charter currently proposed in CFD/CFA
while they don't necessarily object the creation of fj.life.in-japan
itself. Some think that the charter is misleading and partly
responsible for confusion or chaos of the current discussions. Some
are proposing alternatives. However it is difficult to follow the
every proposal and opinion since they are scattered away and sometimes
not explicitly proposed. It would be nice if we can see all the
proposals at once, compare them, discuss constructively and hopefully
make better charter in good cooperation.

I know that some think that a charter is not so important. I agree
that it is not the most important thing. However, it would be better
if fj.life.in-japan could be born with the charter which is loved by
many if not all poeple. The least welcome things are; (i) many people
hate fj.life.in-japan because of the charter, (ii) eternal arguments
in chaos makes it virtually impossible to make the newsgroup itself.

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Charters proposed so far	$@$3$l$^$G$KDs0F$5$l$?7{>O(J
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(#) $@Ds0F<T(J	proposer	[status, etc.]

(#.j)	$@7{>O(J			[status, etc.]

(#.e)	Charter			[status, etc.]

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(1) $@5WLn$5$s(J	Kuno san	[selected by 2nd inquiry]

(1.j)	$@F|K\$G@83h$7$F$$$k309q?M!"$*$h$S$=$l$i(J$@$N?M$H8rN.$7$h$&(J
	$@$H;W$&?M$N$?$a$N>l!#(J

(1.e)	Communication channel for foreigners living in
	Japan, between themselves and with those who are
	willing to contribute.

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(2) $@KL@n(J	Kitagawa	[eliminated by 2nd inquiry]

(2.j)	$@:_F|309q?M$K4X78$9(J$@$kOCBj!#(J

(2.e)	Topics related to foreigners in Japan.

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(3) $@2OLn$5$s(J	Kono san	[not sure when it was eliminated]

(3.j)	$@F|K\$G$N3$30@83h!#(J

(3.e)	Living abroad in Japan.		[tentative translation]

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(4) $@>.J}$5$s(J	Ogata san	[not explicitly proposed yet ?]
      
(4.j)	$@309q?M$NF|K\$G(J$@$N@83h$K4X$9$kOCBj!#(J

(4.e)	Topics on life of foreigners in Japan	[tentative translation]

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(5) $@8M:j$5$s(J	Tozaki san	[correction to Kuno's ?]

(5.e)	Communication channel for foreigners living in Japan	[not sure]
                         
(5.j)	$@F|K\$G@83h$7$F$$$k309q?M$N$?$a$N>l(J			[not sure]

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(6) $@H*G@$5$s(J	Hatano san	[seems to be proposed but not explicitly]

(6.j)	$@F|K\$N<R2q$K(J$@==J,$J$8$s$G$$$J$$$?$a$K@8$8$k5?Ld(J		[not sure]
	$@$J$I$K$D$$$F(J

(6.e)							[not yet available]

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(7) $@B@ED$5$s(J	Ohta san	[mention the following in the charter]

(7.j)	ISO 2022 $@$K=>$&$9$Y$F$N;X<(%7!<%1%s%9(J (JIS X	[edited]
	0201 $@$r=|$/(J) $@$r5v$9!#(J

(7.e)	Any sequences which follow ISO 2022
	except for JIS X 0201 are allowed.		[tentative translation]

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# is just for listing. The order of listing has no meaning.
#$@$N?t;z$d%j%9%H$N=gHV$K$OFC$K0UL#$O$"$j$^$;$s!#(J

They are essentially excerpted from articles posted in fj.news.group,
edited and/or translated without permition of the original authors.
The above list is not intented to be complete. It is just a starting
point. In particular, I cannot guarantee anything about tentative
translations. If you are the author, please replace your part of the
above list with your own words. If your proposal is missing, please
add it yourself. If there is something you have never proposed,
please remove it yourself. If you want to withdraw your proposal,
please do it.

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Fot the fruitful, constructive and swift discussions !

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MaSa					*--- **** ***-- *--* *-* *-*
Masahiro Kitagawa			$@KL@n(J $@>!9@(J	NTT$@4pAC8&5f(J$@=j(J
NTT Basic Research Labs.		kitagawa@will.NTT.JP
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