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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless - POTENTIAL SPOILER thread (?)
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:38:45 GMT

SPOILERS -- PROCEED AT OWN RISK!

As I read it, at the end of MH, the Vogons successfully destroy the Earth
again, with Arthur, both Trillian and Tricia, Ford, and Random all on it.
Maybe I seriously missed something.

Actually, I _know_ I missed something -- I haven't the slightest idea what
the last thing the Leader of the Grebulons (had to look that up in the
book) did -- all I know is that he seems to be pleased with it.  Who's
responsible for the destruction of the Earth -- the Vogons, the Grebulons,
or somebody else?  Nobody?  Who?

Actually, looking it over again, it's possible that Arthur & Co. managed
to get off first, I suppose -- DNA doesn't actually say they die, although
that's what I took the "He knew that at last, for once and forever, it was
all now, finally, over" bit to mean.  But I _suppose_ that could just
refer to the whole bit about knowing he wasn't going to die until visiting
the restaurant.

But what of Zaphod?  Good point!  And I'd like to hear more about Marvin,
even if he _did_ rust out after a few zillion years or so.

- Eric S.

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From: mike@pyrdc.UUCP (Mike Whitman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Mostly Harmless found in DC!!!
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:10:13 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology, Government Systems

I just bought a copy of MH in a Crown Books in Tyson's Corner. It has made
it to the DC area at least. Anyone know if DA is going to do a signing in 
the DC area?

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From: strnadl@tph04.tuwien.ac.at (Christoph F.Strnadl)
Subject: Mostly Harmless is a paper-back or not? 
Reply-To: strnadl@tph01.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, TU Vienna
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:19:29 GMT

I've followed the thread about MH but failed to see any information
regarding the fact whether MH comes (right now) as paper-back,
hard-cover or whatever. Looking at the price tag in the UK (me
thought 'bout 20 pounds?) seems very much like expensive hard-cover.

And -- as we all know -- LDTTOTS and DGHDA came out hard-cover first.
So, I guess, I've to wait for the *real* paper-back edition.
D.A. as hard-cover .... Geez, doesn't fit, think of the Hitchhiker's
books: All paper-back and only paper-back (I think). 

/cfs

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From: siemerin@cs.utwente.nl (Ben Siemerink)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Hitchhiker's guide to the netreg
Keywords: wanted; me too; HHGTTNet
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:49:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.231423.20010@eskimo.celestial.com>, thalos@eskimo.celestial.com (Kris Knien) writes:
> A while back, I read a 12-part story called The Hitchhiker's Guide to the
> Net.  Unfortunately, I only was able to find the first 11 parts and never
> got to read the conclusion.  I would really appreacite it if someone would
> mail this to me, (all 12 parts). Better yet, post it, I feel it's good
> enough to share with other readers of a.f.d-a. :)
>
I'd like to have it too!  So, please send or post!


Ben.
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From: f90angu@fy.chalmers.se (Andreas Gunnarsson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless ending questions (definate spoiler)
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:15:17 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Univ. of Technology, G|teborg, Sweden

In article <1bd4p2INN4e5@aludra.usc.edu>, cokin@aludra.usc.edu (Darren Cokin) writes:
[...]
|> Ok, let me tell you what I think happend, and you tell me how right I am.
|> The Grebulons destroyed the earth.  This of course is nothing new, it's been
|> destroyed before.  Only this particular time, Arthor and Trillian happen to
|> be on the earth at the time of the destruction, so the destruction is 
|> permanent.
[...]

One thing I thought about is that Fenchurch is lost somewhere. We didn't know
where she went, did we? So, if she wasn't on the Earth (which isn't impossible
she was), there is still an earthling out there somewhere that didn't get
killed when the Earth got destructed...

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From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless Canadian info
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:15:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.045353.28370@julian.uwo.ca>, hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Mike Hackett) writes:
>
>Hello all,
>
>    I just wanted to let you all in on what I found out today.  I went into
>my campus book store here at UWO in London, Ontario, and asked about the
>status of the new book.  One of the ladies working there is a big fan too,
>and she told me that they have a whole bunch on order, but the Canadian
>printings aren't ready yet.  Apparently they've only printed enough for the
>British market so far.  She expects them to arrive over here near the end
>of October or beginning of November.
>
>     For those of you in or near Toronto, though, DA is supposedly holding
>a book signing at Harbourfront on Oct. 13 or 14th (next Tuesday or
>Wednesday - I can't remember which).  Signing what, you may ask?  Well,
>according to this woman, "they" (don't know who this refers to - the
>publishers probably) hand-bound a bunch of books for the signing that
>you'll be able to pick up there.  It's very tempting, but I don't think
>I'll be able to go.  The most disappointing thing she told me, though,
>was that DA was supposed to visit the UWO again this time around (on the
>other of the two dates mentioned above), but it was cancelled since the
>books aren't ready.  Oh well, I still can't wait to read the book.
>
>    BTW, please inform the list if any of you hear of any TV or radio
>appearances that DA will be doing.  When he was here for "Last Chance..."
>he did a local radio interview (that I never heard) and a half-hour TV
>interview on the cable community channel.  I saw the latter, but I didn't
>have any way of taping it at the time, which is unfortunate since it was
>very funny.
>
>    If anyone gets further details about the Toronto signing (or can at
>least confirm it), please email me or post them.  If there's anyone from
>London going (fat chance, I know), drop me a line.
>
>
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>


  Hmmm. Well he will be in Toronto for the International Festival of Authors
on Oct.16, 8:30 PM at the Brigantine Room, I think it's at Harbour Front
because the festival is there. 

  About his book, perhaps she was mistaken? I bought his book last night at
The Book Company and there was a display and... everything ;->. It has prices
for Canada and U.K. on it so I assume it is for sale in Canada and the U.K.
This store just got their copies but The World's Biggest Bookstore got some in
a few weeks ago and they sold out, they may have imported them though.


                                                                   adam
From: johnsc@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk (John Currie)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Significant Numbers
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:06:22 GMT
Reply-To: johnsc@Chemeng.Ed.Ac.Uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Chemical Engineering Department.
Originator: johnsc@ruel


can i add the number '13' to the great list of important numbers. making the list read as follows:

42 69 111 3 13

The reason:

3+1 = 4
3-1 = 2

-i rest my case


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From: thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: So, what's the title?
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:31:04 GMT
Organization: Aston University

dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson) writes:
: 
: The new book is called Mostly Harmless.  From what I hear, It's already out in 
: the UK.
: 
: share and enjoy.

	Yeah, it's out. I got my copy from Waterstones the other day, and I'm
about halfway through. There's some rather funny bits in it, too.

	For those of you that are interested in these things it's published by
Heinemann, and the ISBN is 0-434-00926-1. I might type the cover blurb in at
some point, but at the moment I can't be bothered.


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From: gtall@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Gerry Allwein)
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless - DON'T BUY IT !
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:57:58 GMT

I have to admit I didn't like it nearly as well as the previous books. Not
because of the literary gymnastics which were vintage Adams, but because
I found I had no feeling at all for the main characters. They were simply
set pieces for the English phases to work around.

Gerry
From: rcmtr@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Trevor Rook)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Is there a Douglas Adams FAQ list?
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:08:52 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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Is there?

If not, I suppose I'm willing to organise one.

(AARGH! What have I said?! Suppose I'm committed now [or should be...])

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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Mostly Harmless
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:26:02 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


	Is there anyone out there who has bought and read the new fifth
Hitchhiker's novel, _Mostly Harmless_?  I have and would like to discuss it
with those for whom I will not be revealing any surprises.  I shall say no
more to avoid giving anything away, but please post or E-mail me if you have
read it already.

--Andrew D. Simchik
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From: csedlack@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Sedlack)
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless - POTENTIAL SPOILER thread (?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:18:32 GMT

ajdh@bnr.co.uk (Andrew J D Hurley) writes:

>As for a 6th book, well there *could* be one, either before or in the
>middle of the other plots or in another "Parallel Universe", though it
>would be neither parallel nor a universe. However, I think that
>perhaps we could be better entertained by something completely
>different or more Dirk Gently - so long as it's better than TLDTTOTS.

Of course, there still is the matter of Zaphod and the Heart of Gold running
around.  And remember, with an Infinite Improbability Drive running around,
anything can happen.  Also, don't forget that Marvin is almost always certain
to be around somewhere, as he said in one of the books that he was something
like thirteen times older than the universe itself (or some such).

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From: mduhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Matthew Duhan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: WANTED: Hitchhiker's guide to the net
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:12:41 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct11.231423.20010@eskimo.celestial.com> thalos@eskimo.celestial.com (Kris Knien) writes:
>
>A while back, I read a 12-part story called The Hitchhiker's Guide to the
>Net.  Unfortunately, I only was able to find the first 11 parts and never
>got to read the conclusion.  I would really appreacite it if someone would
>mail this to me, (all 12 parts). Better yet, post it, I feel it's good
>enough to share with other readers of a.f.d-a. :)
>

  If someone can e-mail it to me too, I'd appreciate it, or better yet, post
it! 

Matt     mduhan@husc.harvard.edu

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From: csedlack@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Sedlack)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless - POTENTIAL SPOILER thread (?)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:25:11 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana



John.E.Beebe@dartmouth.edu (John E. Beebe) writes:

>In article <Bw0tJ0.CqJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>csedlack@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Sedlack) writes:

>> Of course, there still is the matter of Zaphod and the Heart of Gold running
>> around.  And remember, with an Infinite Improbability Drive running around,
>> anything can happen.

>Except, of course, that the heart of the drive was stolen by the
>Krikkits, and it would seem that Zaphod was shot.....

True, however, Zaphod did get the Improbability Drive back (I don't think it
was a coincidence that it survived the destruction of the Wikkit Gate).  And I
believe that there's evidence somewhere that Zaphod survived the shot....

>But then again, I suppose that alternate realities could provide a
>solution to that problem....

True, but they aren't necessary

>-John Beebe
>"Please feel free to blither now."

Blither, blither.

Chris Sedlack
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From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: 1/4 of the way through Mostly....
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:09:04 GMT
Organization: UB

You know, I just got to the top of page 62, and it was the first time I laughed
out loud. Not to say the book is unfunny, just subtle funny.

Gerson
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From: ajdh@bnr.co.uk (Andrew J D Hurley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless - POTENTIAL SPOILER thread (?)
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:02:54 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, Harlow, GB

In article <1992Oct9.092231.531@dct.ac.uk> mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm) writes:
[stuff about MH being dull]

>Oh dear, I was hoping that someone would disagree with me so strongly that
>I'd be convinced I was wrong. However...........
>
>Anyway, the chances of a 6th book look pretty slim don't they?
>(Unless we get to read Marvin's abridged autobiog - now that _would_ be a good
>sequel 8-)  )

Well, I disagree if that makes you feel better. I'm one of those people
who didn't think much of SLATFATF so I guess my expectations were quite
low. I found MH to be very good, sort of like DGHDA only even better.
The characters work well and are much more like they used to be in the
original THHGTTG, the ideas and concepts are typically outrageous
and funny.

I was fearing the worst when I saw the extract here about Old Thrashbarg
and the Sandwich Maker but in context it works very well (I thought
it sounded too Pratchett like and I am *NOT* a Pratchett fan).

As for a 6th book, well there *could* be one, either before or in the
middle of the other plots or in another "Parallel Universe", though it
would be neither parallel nor a universe. However, I think that
perhaps we could be better entertained by something completely
different or more Dirk Gently - so long as it's better than TLDTTOTS.

Bye the way - I have used full abbreviations here to avoid argument
about what constitutes a significant word in book titles. Flaming
on this point would be extremely boring and tedious as we've seen it
all before.


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From: uwkeller@mcl.ucsb.edu (William Keller)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless : ISBN
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:59:23 GMT

In <1589@igd.fhg.de> gallenba@igd.fhg.de (Jens Gallenbacher) writes:


>Sorry, if I ask for something also written in the FAQ, but I
>didn't get one for weeks.

>Could someone post the ISBN of the Book "Mostly Harmless".
>I wasn't able to find it on any international lists of our 
>local bookstores. Thanks in advance.

>Jens.

ISDN 0-517-57740-2

Will
From: mduhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Matthew Duhan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Green Smiling Planet
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:52:11 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


   Does anyone know where the green smiling planet originated from and why?
It's appeared on all the HH books, the scripts, etc. and I've always
wondered where it came from.  The reason I ask this is because I've seen
a copy of the original HHGTTG book without it.  The cover is a mish mash
of colors with the title (HHGTTG) in large, friendly letters on the cover.
I believe the date is somewhere around 1970.  Is this a mutant cover, a
Brittish copy, or just an early printing before the GSP was invented?
Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Matt          mduhan@husc.harvard.edu

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From: AGRANHOLM@finabo.abo.fi (Alexander Granholm Is)
Subject: Re: Last Chance to See
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:17:33 GMT
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In <janzen.718650979@husc10> janzen@husc10.harvard.edu writes:

> According to several recent posts, DA read from this on his "Mostly
> Harmless" tour.  What is "Last Chance to See" about and why have I not
> heard of it before?
From: cokin@aludra.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless ending questions (definate spoiler)
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:35:22 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1bebapINNo0v@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:

>	Huh?  I thought the Vogons destroyed the Earth all by themselves in the
>end, and the Grebulons were just there to give Tricia somthing to do so that
>she didn't seem to come out of left field in the end.
>
>						-Jay

No, that's one bit I'm sure about.  The Grebulons did the dirty work, but
the Vogons made them.  I'll give you a quote:

"This was all very distressing for him [the Grebulon Leader], but he knew that
he  had to start talking positive action.  He ordered the turrets to turn."

The Grebulons had turrets.  This is how they blew up the Earth.  Also in the
end Trillian said the Grebulons were about to do something very misguided.
(how did she know?)  And in the first chapter it says that if we knew where
the Grebulons came from "a most terrible catastrophe would have been averted -
or, at least, would have had to find a different way to happen."  In other
words, if someone told the Grebulons their mission, the bird would have
had to find another way of blowing up the earth.

Why can't there be another Earth in a parallel dimension?   I know, not
really parallel, not really a dimension, but you know what I mean.  

                                                     Darren
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From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: Is there a Douglas Adams FAQ list?
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:34:48 GMT
	<1992Oct12.211625.13194@etek.chalmers.se>

Yes there is an FAQ, and it should be coming out in two days time.
For those people who haven't got copies, try looking back in the
newsgroup, try looking in news.answers, or try ftping to
pit-manager.mit.edu and look in the directory /pub/usenet.

Nat
(the keeper of FAQ)
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Hey everyone, I just figured out something!
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:37:50 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Hey all you cool froods, did you ever notice that six times nine IS
fourty-two...

in base thirteen!!!

Please don't kill me, it was only a joke... :)


--Jason "I really don't know when to let up" Balicki
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From: dalton@nevada.edu (William Tiberis Felis Long)
Subject: Re: Challenge for Douglas Adams-freaks
Organization: NCC 1701-F USS Enterprise
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:44:02 GMT

I can think of The Meaning of Liff, and The Deeper Meaning of Liff (ittr).
These are sort of a dictionary format that pokes fun at american humour.

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