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From: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Metropolis WAS Toronto
Date: 28 Jul 1992 21:39:54 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.; Campbell, CA
Reply-To: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
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In-reply-to: gkam@trooa.enet.dec.com (28-Jul-1992 1553)

In article <9207281951.AA08180@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>, gkam@trooa (28-Jul-1992 1553) writes:
>Since we're on the subject, the game of basketball was also invented by a
>Canadian who took his idea of shooting a ball through a hoop down to Indiana.

And hockey, of course, was invented some 200 years ago on the frozen
surface of Lake Woebegon by a bored American, Jefferson Keillor
(Garrison's remote ancestor).

Next!
-- 
    Doug Moran        | Heck, picture if aliens ever landed in California.
   dougm@hal.com      | Instead of running away or even inquiring about the
 {...}!hal.com!dougm  | secrets of the universe, *Californians* would probably
 HaL Computer Systems | ask the BEMs if they had any new cuisine!
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From: dpeterso@sol.UVic.CA (Bruce Banner)
Subject: Trial of Venom
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 07:45:20 GMT


Does anyone know if "The Trial of Venom" comic book will be available to 
Canadians?  As I read the ad for it, it states that with the Marvel coupon
(Available in most Marvel Comics in September) and a $5.00 check payable to
the UNITED STATES comittee for UNICEF, you will be sent this book for free.
It does not state wether or not it is limited to Americans only, or if a
Canadian can simply pay in US funds.  If any retailer out there knows for sure,
can you please tell me?

Thanks

--Dale Peterson
dpeterso@sol.uvic.ca
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Dark Horse: New American seriesI saw in one of the upcoming comics magazines an ad for a
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:11:57 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <92210.144932JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET> JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:
>new American series from Dark Horse.  Does anybody out there
>know anything about this series?  Who's the artist and writer,
>is this one in color, etc.?  Email me or post as you like.
>     Thanks ahead of time for the info.
> 
Well it's written by Mark Verheiden, who wrote the original American series
and it's in color too, but I forgot who the artist was. The art wasn't very
impressive anyway.

h.


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From: stailey@snoopy.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Re: No more Terminator @ DH
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:39:33 GMT

(Dara Naraghi) writes:

*In response to (NightProwler):

*>I just heard from a friend of mine at Dark Horse that they just lost 
*>their contract for the Terminator series of books...everything is now
*>going to DC.

* Now this is interesting.  I thought DH lost their Terminator license
* to either Valient or Marvel.


  At the Chicago Comicon, the guys from Dark Horse had a slide show
  of upcoming events. When the subject of "Terminator: Endgame" game
  up, he told us that they had lost the license to MARVEL. He also
  stated that they had gotten the Robocop license from MARVEL. So it
  was basically a swap.

  Now, my question is... Did MARVEL outbid DARK HORSE for the license?
  Or is this some kind of deal worked out with the production company
  that owns the character?


  --
  Michael                      
  stailey@comm.mot.com
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Infinity War...Geez...
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:21:58 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean VA

In article <1992Jul28.153800.18388@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
}
}In a previous article, jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) says:
}
}>I write:
}>
}>>goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
}>
}>
}>>>	Hm. Perhaps the Watcher? I don't believe we've seen him yet,
}>>>which is a bit odd considering how cosmic it's all been getting.
}>
}>>Maybe, perhaps... it's Franklin ;)
}>
}>No... I got it... the old Thor :)
}

You are ALL wrong!!!!


I HAVE IT!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: DC Comics
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:03:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.022040.7213@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>where's tyg?

Would you believe DC? (OK, District of Columbia rather than Detective Comics,
but that was too good an opening to pass up...)

Offhand, I'm not sure why they went with DC rather than AC (Adventure) or
FC (Fun), but I suspect it has to do with what became DC was sort of two 
different companies in the 40s, DC and All-American. I've never been quite 
clear just why this was the case and what the details of the situation were,
but I know that part of the reason of the membership of the JSA being like
it was, including Superman and Batman being honorary members from the word
go, had to do with Kal and Bruce being in the DC camp while most of the JSA
were in the All-American camp. They weren't totally separate, as they did
reference Superman and Batman (and didn't reference Namor, Torch, or Cap),
but there was some difference.

"We're all given some sort of skill in life. Mine just happens to be beating up
on people."  -- Sugar Ray Leonard
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Subject: Re: impact comics line
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:43:34 GMT


In a previous article, mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (plain) says:

>
> Hi, I have just picked up a couple issues of Impact comics, namely
> Black Conder #1 and The Comet #14 (I think that's the right number)
> I'm not sure what I think of the Black Conder, but I liked the Comet,
> it reminded me of the old (original) Nova series from Marvel, at
> least as much as one issue can.
>
>So, I'm just curious how you all out in net land feel about this line
>of comics (I've been known to be swayed briefly by a pretty face)
>
>Also, how about some info on the Impact universe and stuff like
>which was their first title(s).

Some good, some bad.

I found THE SHIELD and THE COMET to the best written.  THE JAGUAR has
potential, but their dragging out the melodrama of her new powers too
long.  THE BLACK HOOD sucks; when I bought the first issue, I expected
that Federman character to be around for awhile, and he was killed after
the first.  It's been downhill since.

The artwork is passable, but nothing to be blown away by.


The IMPACT line began last summer.  THE SHIELD,COMET,JAGUAR,FLY, and
the WEB were released two weeks apart from each other in that order.
About 5 months later, BLACK HOOD #1 came out after the Hood made apperances
in the other five comics.  There is also a WHO'S WHO for impact.

C. Gibbs
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: REALITY GEM, REALITY GEM.  Who's cot the REALITY GEM?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 20:42:18 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <m0mDKFr-0000aAC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>
>RICK JONES  (i don't know why...just seemed like a good guess).

	Nope, not me.  

	My vote is for Thanos, and the two of them are just 
playing cagey as to not tip their respective hands.  (I don't
follow Warlock &TIW, this is just based on what I read, in a
friend's copy.)
-- 
Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
albert@bcm.tmc.edu			Baylor College of Medicine
Voice: 713-798-7352			standard disclaimers apply
"I've _got_ to start listening to those quiet, nagging doubts." - Calvin
From: z_moorertw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: software
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:01:59 CST
Summary: Inv sftware
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Does anyone have any idea where I can buy a comic inventory software package.
z_moorertw@c ccsvax@sfasu..edu
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Marvel Continuity
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:55:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.143453.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>
>I've mentioned before:  X-Men 115 puts a date for Xavier being in Cairo of
>early fifties, with Ororo around 6 years old.  X-Men 138 has Jean Grey's
>tombstone with a birth date in the early fifties, and death in the early
>eighties (I don't have them handy).  Of course she's not dead (again?).

Around U-Xmen #170, Scott told Madelyne the date of Jean's death... Sept 1,
1980.  

>We can also pinpoint 'important' events by other features:  are there any books
>with the Statue of Liberty in scaffolds?

'Power Pack' had a few issues involving the S.O.L. around that time.

>  How many presidential caricatures are
>there?

Carter was shown, as prez, two issues before the death of Phoenix.  Bush 
appeared in 'Iron Man' about 4 months ago.  I'm sure there have been many
others...

['Dark Knight Returns' features Reagan... but it's supposed to be at least 
10 years in the future (10 years after Bats retires.)  It seems DC time is
as strange as Marvel's... ]  

-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Oh, COME OFF IT! Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWA
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:18:34 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <62958@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>...the acting was fairly
>up to par and, in Basinger's case, way above par...

Really?!  What I'd heard from everyone I know who's seen it is that her 
acting is much better as a cel than in the flesh...
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Batcave Archives
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:16:42 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:

>> I'd love to see a series of stories giving the origins of each
>> troph in the Batcave.  Either reprints/retellings of the
>> original stories or new-and-hopefully-better stories tied
>> to each object.                

>Wasn't there an issue of SECRET ORIGINS where they wrote the 
>origins ofAlfred and some of the Batcave trophies?

No, there was no such issue of SECRET ORIGINS, in any of its incarnations.

However, there was a 100-page issue of BATMAN, #256, that reprinted 
many of the original stories from which the trophies came:

BATMAN #35, "Dinosaur Island!" (robot dinosaur)
WORLD'S FINEST #30, "The Penny Plunderers!" (giant penny, supposedly, though no
	giant penny actually appears in the story)
BATMAN #12, "Brothers in Crime!" (a bullet-proof vest)
DETECTIVE #158, "The Thousand and One Trophies of Batman!" (various trophies)
BATMAN #119,  "The Secret of Batman Island!" (an island of trophies)

Other trophies that have appeared in the Batcave over the years include a large
fire-breathing penguin, the giant joker card, a giant chessboard, and a giant
cage of dice.  However, I've no idea of the sources of these stories.

I agree that an issue of SECRET ORIGINS that retold (or reinvented) the stories
associated with the trophies would be something to look forward to.

By the way, a post-Crisis origin of Alfred appeared in BATMAN ANNUAL #9, as
"Waiting in the Wings".
-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
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From: vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams)
Subject: Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:11:36 GMT

In <3119@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:

>The Crime Syndicate of Earth III was a major villian group IMHO.
>They could have retconed them being from another Earth/Dimension
>but they killed them off and did it well.


The Crime Syndicate was recently retconned into being from Qward, and a new
version of the CS showed up in JL Quarterly.

--
 ________________ Alan Williams  vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu ___________________
 \/ A hypothetical paradox: What would happen in a battle between an         \/
    _Enterprise_ security team, who always get killed soon after appearing,
    and a squad of Imperial Stormtroopers, who can't hit the broad side of
    a planet?                 	--Tom Galloway
From: romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Dave Sim/Cerebus -- The Usenet Interview Mini-comic
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:11:52 GMT

bv446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James S. Ottaviani) writes about the Dave Sim
USENET Intervew Mini-comic.

And it's very nice, too; it's got a cool cover with Cerebus at a terminal...
a nice piece of work.
-- 
	- john romkey	  ELF Communications	 romkey@ELF.com
From: eeopensh@cybaswan.UUCP (j p openshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Zulli's Turtles...
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:00:26 GMT
Reply-To: eeopensh@pyr.swan.ac.uk (j p openshaw)

In Teenage Mutant Unfeasible Amphibians, there was a three part story
by Stephen Murphy and Michael Zulli where the turtles are made all
mysterious and sinister a la' DC's Elseworlds series. 

Anyway, the first part came out in July 90, the second in March 91. Has
anyone any idea when the third and final part is due to be published, and
has Zulli/Murphy got any other projects on the go? 


-- 
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From: hankins@cs.swarthmore.edu (Luke Hankins)
Subject: valiant (what elese)
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:12:23 GMT

1. Am i the only peoson on the whole net that worships the boys and grils at
valiant?

2. Could anyone who has posed valiant related stuff mail it to me?

3. would anyone be intrested in bulk (well small bulk) ordering back issues
of Valiants (A&A #0,1;Eternal warrior #1, ect)

4. Has anyone recived a gold or red editor by mailing praising letters to
valiant?

5. does anyone eles out there ever read valiant if so DO IT! they make the
best super hero comics in the biz...

6.  About Jimmey leaving Valiant, why is it that no dealears i have talked
to have heard anything about this....

7. (r.a.c.m sorry) i ahev some valiant dubbles that i may sell if anyone is
intrested..)

8. (r.a.c.m sorry again)  Still looking to buy valiants cash or trade...)

-morgan (next week i will start giving valint wrap ups of all the valinat
books i buy....)

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Luke Hankins hankins@cs.swarthmore.edu |"I don't care anymore" -P Collins
for(MyAge=0;!Dead;EnjoyLife);          |"I'm here and here I'll stay" -SOC
While not (EndOfLife) do Havefun(me);  |"...stay sane inside insanity..." -RHPS
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Subject: Quasar (was Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies) 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:16:18 GMT

In article <3119@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>
>> Article <1992Jul23.003334.10190@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
>
>> Not even Barry died in Crisis. 
>  Didn't you know he just traveled to the Marvel 
>> Universe in an issue of Quasar? }->
>
>Not! Don't spoil his memory by mentioned his name in the same sentence
>as Marvel.  It is just a cheap ripoff as the Squadran Supreme was.
>
Hey!  Don't tread on Quasar!  It happens to be one of the best Marvel comics
being publish.  IMHO, of course, but only there do you see SOMEONE tryingto
resolve old plotlines with flair and panache.  In the issue in question,
Marvel tried to do a "who's fastest" storline, as DC did.  Involved in the
race from the earth to the moon was one of the supporting characters.  It
came from a "Hey, my d*ck's bigger than yours" contest, so common in DC and
Marvel, to a moment of trial and triumph for Makkari.  The strange thing is
HE DIDN'T WIN!  Instead, a "buried alien" roared past them all, and beat
Makkari.  This was a wonderful tribute to a great golden age hero, which
was Gruenwald's way of saying even though sales dictated superman had to 
win, and give flash the shaftola, he _was_ the fastest thing in DC AND Marvel.
Rather than a ripoff, I though it was wonderful.

BTW, in the latest issue, for those of you that remember the Questprobe
storyline in Fantastic Four and Spiderman:  The Chief Examiner is Dead, and
the Black Fleet has finally arrived!
-- 
Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Everything But Love tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Oh God, does this mean we have to fight?"
			-Selina Kyle, _Batman_
From: laker@eb5ts2.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Give Galactus "HIS" due
Date: 29 Jul 1992 15:20:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts2.ebay.sun.com


	What I would like to see....

	is the Silver Surfer...with Galactus....traveling to an unknown
	part of the universe...and they come upon a large structure that 
	dwarfs Galactus's huge world ship...Big G and SS enter...and a voice
	says..."you have done well", and Galactus answers, "thank you,
	Creator"....the Silver Surfer, of course, freaks out!!! 
	...and out of the shadows appears....(now that would be telling)



	who is it??? why it's Galactus...THE "REAL" GALACTUS....the one from
	FF 48-50, and the old Thor's.....how can this happen?  easy!, why
	does this need to happen?...because it's needed! BADLY!!!

	circa way back...Galactus constructs a self...to go out-forth, and
	gather energy...and explore...and experience...while the "REAL" one
	stays and experiments on how to cure his hunger for life-sustaining
	planetoids.

	This will explain why Galactus's strength has diminished to the point
	where everyone this side of Aunt May can kick his ass...and it sets
	up why he almost died in FF awhile back...the construct attempted a
	form of suicide.

	Now as to why such events as the Secret War...Infinity "whatevers",
	didn't get the "REAL" Galactus's attention? 1) he knows that his
	construct has sufficient enough cosmic power to handle the crisis and
	2) nothing short of the universe collapsing into another "BIG BANG",
	will get his attention...and even that's questionable since he has
	already survivied such an event once as a mortal, Now as Galactus, he
	would surely survive...HE IS GALACTUS!!!...HE IS "THE POWER" !!!

	

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From: cgf@ednor.bbc.com (Chris Faylor)
Subject: Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWAY!
Organization: Boston Business Computing, Ltd.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:23:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.132147.57505@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>This is a public service announcement to all you comic fans.
>I wish to prevent a tragedy from happening to you.  This is 
>my sad story. Yesterday, My friend dragged me to a matinee' 
>and it was one of the worst cinematic experiences in my life.
>The so-called film is "Cool World."  I had heard it wasn't a 
>good film, from someone I didn't really trust, and so I really
>didn't pay much attention to the warning signs.  I saw on the 
>back of comics advertisements for this debotchery of sight and
>sound, but had no idea how horrific it really could be.  Well,
>I survived, but barely.  DON'T GO SEE IT!  WHAT A WASTE!  I sat
>through the entire film saying, "It's just slow, it'll get 
>better." Survey Says "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!!!"  To put it 
>mildly, I felt betrayed, appalled and used.  How can they make
>such filth and garbage and pass it off as film?  I am posting
>this here to help quelch anyone's curiosity about it.  They
>try to drag in the comic fans, don't heed the siryn's call!
>
>Perhaps there are other victims out there who will come out 
>and help substantiate my case, but I am pleading to you don't 
>see it, It's not worth even going to it at a dollar theatre.
>Don't rent it.  Yech!  
>
>This has been a public service announcement...

I agree wholeheartely.  I was very disappointed.  The animation was
weak and the internal logic of the film was terrible.  Maybe this was
due to poor editing.

I thought the end sequence, in particular, was stupid as well.

This film had no redeeming qualities at all.
-- 
Chris Faylor		Boston Business Computing, Ltd.
cgf@ednor.bbc.com	"I am not here."
From: hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Next polybagged run
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:42:28 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BrG70F.6zC@cs.psu.edu> petonak@chem.psu.edu (Paul Petonak) writes:


>I hate this whole bagged bullshit with different cards/posters/etc per
>book. Its crap.

As do I.

>Marvel knows that any collector
>is going to just shrug his shoulders a,d buy all the cover/card variations
>(a total of 10 I think) in addition to a copy to read. Ergo, marvel is
>robbing you and they are scum for it. I won't fall for this trash and
>refuse to buy more than one to read, maybe two if I have extra cash.

No, they're not "robbing ... scum". They are just selling stuff.

I *NEVER* purchase more than one copy! (well, I did buy 2 XM#1's, but that was
because I was planning to wait for the last edition, but my will-power did not
prevail.)  I think the kind of speculative buying you refer to is a waste.
Just because it's the *hot* book right now does *NOT* guarantee it will be
in five (or ten or fifty) years from now.  If you do this kind of over-buying
you're just encouraging them (The Major Comicbook Companies) to come out with
more and more variations so you'll have to spend more and more money....

Remember the stock market crash of 1929 (well, not directly, of course) ???
How about the crash in 'museum' art prices that is happening now, because
for the last decade or so art prices were spiraling out of control??
This *will* happen to the comicbook market once the market is saturated.
IMHO, I think the saturation point will be reached in the *very* near
future.

So, if you want to buy 10 bagged versions of (insert *hot* title), go ahead.
But be ready to suffer the long-term consequences...

(end of rant)

I don't blame Marvel for this situation. They're just trying to make money.
They're not stealing from anyone, they're not killing (or even maiming) anyone.
But as long as 'variations' increase sales, they will keep finding new
variations.

>I just can't see a serious collector shelling
>out major cash for a book with a Cable card rather than a Deadpool one.

Time will tell.

>If it is a good story, and fits into the title I normally read well, I don't
>mind. However, it seems that often you don't really 'need' to read many of the
>crossovers, like the Infinity Gauntlet ones, so just don't buy 'em.

Good for you!! I-)

				James Willer at hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu
					OR jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
{The opinions above are probably not those of
 Hanan Polansky. I don't know. I never asked.}
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