From: stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin)
Subject: Re: Dave's chart, but where's Dave? Oh, over there, a-bashing.
Originator: news@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:32:29 GMT
Organization: AUS

	In article <1992Oct8.110629.29745@tfs.com>, ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes:
	> 
	> Yes - I've scanned things to date, no mention by Dave that we've done anything
	> at all. He last responded to me when I wrote to him privately. Probably some
	> cue that *he* is cared about. It might hurt his feelings for us to dicsuss
	> him third person - but that's primarily because he's not putting himself here
	> in person to say "boo", "foo" or *anything*, regarding his readings. I see a
	> man drowning . . . the nature of his writing has changed.
	> 

		Eric, he dropped me a mail message saying he was overloaded with work and 
		would try to respond on the weekend. I wouldn't count on the drowning yet. 
 
	> Ahh - give me a FAX number, I guess, or a mailing address. In fact, I can
	> run off laser charts with Blue Star & send them to you - give me an excuse
	> to use up old stamps. Send how you want them done . . .
	> Maybe I'll post some output from some of my ascii-oriented programs.

		I don't have a FAX number - this is Oklahoma :-) I have a mailing address,
		if you want it. But the cheapest way it seems to me is for you to send
		me the info on e-mail. I don't care. Whatever's the easiest for you.
		E-mail address is in the header. I'll send you my snail mail address via
		e-mail. I just cannot find it within myself to post it. This is not paranoia -
		it's scorpio rising. :-) (Is there a difference?)

		Another thing - isn't Blue Star from Matrix? If it is, do you like it? Is it		
		a good program? I want some Mac software to figure charts, and Matrix
		does offer one.

	> I think what I'd like to do is have you follow after, and reread a chart I've
	> just done. I know you'll be their favorite, but that's okay - I can go

		Oh, bull. What I don't know would fill a library. Besides, I have an	
		ineffectual Mars, remember?  Oh, almost forgot - Venus is ineffectual, too-
		it's in Virgo. :-) 
 
	> Hmmpf. Oh, all right. *You're* the big deal on house cusps - I don't pay much
	> attention to that. I'll look them up. The rest, I did from memory . . .
	> 
		How can you read a chart without house cusps? This I do not understand.
 
	> Quit typing so close to the right hand margin!! Set your X-term back at 80
	> columns . . . 

		Bitch, bitch, bitch. :-) I'm on a Mac - I don't have a margin and god		
		only knows where 80 columns are. I'm trying - is this any better?


	> Near as I can tell the
	> only recurrent theme is I'm insane. Dissociated - I guess so I can easily
	> diagnose cross-currents in other people.

		Possible, but I'd rather see for myself.
 
	> I don't study much, I use various 'cookbooks' and go off and try to form
	> whole images - chunk down this or that image to use later in a 'cold'
	> reading. My intuition says I can internalize this in simple symbols making
	> easy speech, with a little effort. You look at a lot of things at once -
	> I guess I shouldn't challenge you at chess. :)

		I do look at the whole thing at once and just see if the chart talks to me
		(speaking of insane...). I tried to teach my friend, M.J., to read charts.
		She said I was the worst teacher ever, because I could only explain my
		interpretations as, "Well, I SEE..." or "I FEEL..." :-)
 

	> Gee - demonstrative little whelp that I am, Stacey, *smooch*.
	> :) ecsd (:
	> 
		God, smooches so early in the morning - I'm overwhelmed. :-) It must be 	
		that venus transiting my 1st. :-)