HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: black@sybase.com (Christina Black)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: TB and Aids
Date: 25 Sep 92 17:38:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.201615.825@mala.bc.ca>, apland@mala.bc.ca writes:
|> I heard the end of a local doc-talk show about a variation of aids being
|> transmitted through mere contact with TB carriers.  Anyone heard anything
|> about this or did I put it together wrong from the little I caught at the
|> end of the editorial?

You put it together wrong.  You can only contract AIDS from a person who
is infected with HIV (the virus which causes AIDS), and you can only
catch it through sexual contact or blood contact (for example, by
sharing a hypodermic syringe).  A person with AIDS is easily susceptible
to disease and could catch TB from a carrier.  It's possible that
a person who doesn't have AIDS could catch TB from someone (with or
without AIDS) who has TB.  However, people useually only contract TB if
they're living in poor conditions.  TB is in the news because TB rates
are going up and some strains of TB are becoming drug-resistant.  The
number of people affected is still small, however.

In short:  there is a risk of casual transmission of TB, mostly to
people with AIDS and people living in poor conditions.  There is no risk
of casual transmission of AIDS.

-- Chris
black@sybase.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bonnie@nmsu.edu (Bonnie Hargrave)
Subject: Revisit the EBV syndrome, briefly?  How 'bout hepititus?
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: sci
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:58:06 GMT


I've a feeling this group has been down this path more than once, but
I'm too new to know the basics.

Various blood tests have not revealed much significant data.  High
uric acid (8.0), somewhat low thryoid levels for T3, and a mitral
valve abnormality.  Pulse, blood pressure, sugar level, even aerobic
capacity all look very good.  

The only test result that seems associable with the symptoms I'm
experiencing is the EBV test.  It turned up "abnormal -- possibility
of a reactivated virus."

1st question: Reactivated?  I never knew I even _had_ the thing.  I
will be seeing a doctor in a couple weeks or so for more information
on this test, but would like to know something about it before then.
How often can such a test result turn out to be bogus?  And what's the
next step in testing?

2nd question: My mother-in-law thinks I should also be tested for
hepatitis.  Her suggestion is based on something my husband told her
about possible liver problems.  The only thing I can imagine
indicating a liver problem is the uric acid level.  Does this make
sense, and if so, what is the connection between that and hepatitis?
The only thing I know about it is from a "MASH" rerun.

Thanks.

Bonnie
--

		bonnie@nmsu.edu         
		Bonnie Hargrave        

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: Rosemary Waigh <rwaigh@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Can humans get tapeworms from cats?
Reply-To: rwaigh@zooid.UUCP (Rosemary Waigh)
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:27:40 GMT
Keywords:  tapeworms cats


My cat has been diagnosed as having tapeworms.

Is there any possibility that I or my husband could have been
infected by her tapeworms, e.g. by changing her litterbox?

Thanks for your help,

Rosemary
rwaigh@zooid.guild.org 



Newsgroups: sci.med
From: skill@qucis.queensu.ca (David Skillicorn)
Subject: Course -- Cognitive and Motor Aspects of Apraxia
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:26:36 GMT


Cognitive and Motor Aspects of Apraxia
Implications for Assessment and Treatment

January 29-30, 1993, Kingston, Ontario, Canada.

Presented by Dr Eric Roy, Ph.D., C.Psych, Associate Professor of
Kinesiology (Waterloo), Psychology (Waterloo), Rehab. Medicine
(Toronto), and Psychology (Toronto).

Intended Audience: Occupational Therapists, Physical Therapists,
Psychologists, Speech and Language Pathologists.

Registration: Request a registration form by calling Susan Lunn,
Kingston General Hospital, +1 613 548 2328 or send email to
skill@qucis.queensu.ca. Register by December 14th, 1992.
The course fee is $C225.

Accommodation: The conference will be held in the Howard Johnson
Confederation Place Hotel in the centre of Kingston. Rooms may be
reserved at the conference rate by calling 1 800 654 2000 or fax
+1 613 549 1508. The conference rate is $C76 (single or double).

Kingston is located at the North-Eastern corner of Lake Ontario and
can be reached from Toronto by train or plane, from Montreal and Ottawa by
train, and from Syracuse N.Y. by bus.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: FDA
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:06:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Oct4.050804.21122@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <KPC.92Oct3172202@zog.arc.nasa.gov> kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov writes:

			.....................

>>also, who gains from the prescription laws in general?  sometimes i
>>must pay scores of dollars in time and money, simply to get a
>>signature for a prescription drug or a refill that i already know for
>>certain that i need.

>I've always called my doctor and asked that a refill be allowed.
>S/he can simply call the pharmacy and authorize a refill in most cases;
>sometimes an Rx must be delivered later on.  That is, if you both agree
>that such additional medication is warranted.  This is frequently no-charge.

This has always been no charge in my case, but the requirement, which is
I believe FDA, that no prescription be valid for more than one year is at
least a nuisance. 

While it may be no charge, it is certainly not no cost.  We must face the
fact that there is a substantial cost in even calling in a renewal by phone,
which is the typical situation I have been in.

>>are my health and money losses from this overshadowed by someone
>>else's gains?  i suppose some antibiotics might be a public health
>>hazard.  but i can't think of other gains that truly offset my losses.

>I have no idea.

Until we allow bureaucrats to be fired for increasing the costs by adding
paperwork, this will continue.  This also must be considered in other types
of cost controls; the cost of controlling the cost may far exceed any savings.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!pop.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: headaches (was Re: Xanax)
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <397nsja.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>(The motto of this subthread is "Banks and I understand the
>English Language. It is our mother tongue.")
>
David, please don't enlist me in arguments you are having with
other people.  Especially when I am more likely to agree with
your opponent.



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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: jrt@omega.kcr.uky.edu (J. Randall Thompson)
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
    <92279.171635CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Organization: Kentucky Cancer Registry, Univ. of Ky
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:07:41 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <92279.171635CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET> <CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>Sure, patients with what are deemed "psycosomatic" illness can and may be on a
>state funed health care programs and waste millions of dollars; but the real w
>aste of money occurs when the ordinary person must pay for inept and inadequate
>physicians.  For example, suppose someone with a so called psycosomatic
>illness goes to numerous different doctors in search of a cure for his problem.
>If it takes ten him ten doctors to finally figure out what is wrong with h
>im, the patient is not the one "wasting" money, it is the status quoe (do the m
>inimun to get by, first 9 doctors) who are truly responsible for the wasted mon
>ey.

You sanctimnious shit. What do you think, there is a 'bull-shit titer' we
are supposed to check on people to determine if they making up their
symptoms? You don't have any idea what you are talking about.

-- 
[]  J. Randall Thompson                                      jrt@kcr.uky.edu []
[]  University of Kentucky, Lexington, Kentucky                              []
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:49:48 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct01.145646.14967@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>
>How did your doctor determine your headaches were migraine and not sinus?
>
>I get headaches, around my eyes. The pain alternates from one eye to the
>other, but usually not both eyes at the same time. I suspect it's
>related to the sinuses that are behind the eyes. Sometimes it is
>accompanied with nausea. I lived with it all my life.
>
>Can change in barometric pressure cause a sinus headache? I seem to
>get headaches when it rains.

Sinus headache is one of the most frequent misdiagnoses we see.
The vast majority of severe headaches are migraine.  Nausea as
an accompaniment is another tip-off that it isn't sinus.  Sinus
pain is usually sharp and is often a pressure sensation.  Tapping
on the sinuses should greatly exacerbate the pain.  X-rays should
show fluid in the sinuses.  Rapid changes in pressure can cause
sinus pain, as you would know if you have flown in a plane with
plugged sinuses (like with a cold or hay fever).  I'd say that
probably almost half the migraines I see have a relative who
was being treated as a sinus headache (migraines are hereditary).
Often getting these people off the sinutabs and onto migraine medication
makes them very happy indeed.  See a neurologist.
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: zador-anthony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Zador)
Subject: Re: Med school
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:09:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.151614.24095@dragon.acadiau.ca> 901371d@dragon.acadiau.ca (D.N.D) writes:
> I've heard of people taking pre-med and of people getting
>into med school with a degree in the Arts.
> I find those two statements contradictive.Is a pre-med program
>needed to get into medicine,or could someone get in with say
>an Engineering degree or computer science degree?

Most medical schools in this country require only a minimal premed
curriculum: 1 yr each of Bio, Gen Chem, Organic Chem and Physics.

In my class there were lots of people with very different backgrounds,
and they often ended up going into different fields. Aside from the
usual array of Biochem majors, there were math and physics majors
(including a guy w/ a physics Ph.D. who did his postdoc w/Stephen
Hawkings), a few CS majors and engineers, several peace corps
volunteers--often english or history or poli sci majors, an ex-Chicago
Mercantile exchange commodities broker (live hog pit), a fire-fighting
forest ranger from Idaho, a 45-yr hippie, a 38-yr old mother of 3,
etc.

As a side point, the stereotypes are that people with technical
backgrounds often go into something like Radiology, which has lots of
technology and little patient contact, that peoplele with English/Comp
Lit backgrounds  end up in Psych, that jocks often go into
surgery, and that the peace corps people go into either Family
Practice or Infectious diseases (so they can go back to the 3rd
world). There are of course a lot of exceptions, but these are
interesting trends.

-- 
Tony Zador
zador@cs.yale.edu
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Doctors' credentials
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Sep28.204251.27190@uvmark.uucp> susan@uvmark.uucp (Susan Todhunter - (JWT)) writes:
>
>What is a "problem patient"?
>

One that you are very sorry that you have and would be happy to
see decide to change doctors.
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Patients rights to med. records - long
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <3855@unisql.UUCP> collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:

>learn the proper method to request your records.  ;-)  Technically, you 
>should be able to ask for your records, over the phone and have them sent
>where ever you want, but that doesn't always work.
>
"Hi, I'm Collene Pearce, please send a copy of my medical records
to Telemarketers, Inc."

Do you really want that to be able to happen?  Use your noodle!




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Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.bio
From: neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld)
Subject: Re: Eliminating the need to sleep?
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:48:35 GMT

In article <Bv3DE1.C3t@world.std.com> jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.162031.2600@alw.nih.gov> singley@helix.nih.gov (Erick Singley) writes:
>>However, there is an urban legend that I've heard of whic
>> suggested that (DeVinci?) slept for 15 minutes every four hours.
>>
   Yes, I heard this on the CBC radio show "Quirks And Quarks" about
three months ago. The researcher interviewed had a person on a schedule
like this, but with thirty minutes of sleep every four hours.
   I've been on this regimen myself since then, reverting on the odd day
to a more conventional six hour continuous sleep on evenings when my day
was too full for the naps. I've got it down to the point now where I can
toggle between the two sleep schedules from one day to the next.
   I'm not as alert during the early morning as I am during the day, but
I am quite functional. At least, I think I am. I feel pretty awake right
now.

>Just think of all the things you could post to the net at 3 am.
>
   Yep. Check the time stamp on this article.


-- 
 Christopher Neufeld....Just a graduate student  | Don't let your mind
 neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca    Ad astra  | wander -- it's too little
 utzoo.utoronto.ca!generic!cneufeld              | to be let out alone.
 "Don't edit reality for the sake of simplicity" |
From: chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu (L.E. Chirlian)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: women in science
Date: 2 Oct 1992 08:30:25 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


	I don't have any studies to back this up but in my opinion the
fact that more woman are in biology is due to the fact that biology is
_generally_ less math-intensive (I know that's not always true).
Similarly more women are in chemistry than physics for the same
reason.  Medicine also is not a math-intensive field (I think only one
year of calculus is required for med school admission).
	In my own experience in chemistry, women were more prevalent
in those areas which required less use of math.  
					Lisa
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:57:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct3.135230.27052@genie.slhs.udel.edu> nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz) writes:
>How do you tell the difference between someone with Munchausen's and
>someone with a problem you don't know how to diagnose? (I'll take your
>word for it that Munchausen's exists, but I've also heard too many
>horror stories from people who got told their real diseases were
>delusional.)

The difference with Munchausen's syndrome is that the patient usually
has a very good idea of what the disease is s/he is presenting with,
and proceeds to fake complaints and falsify lab tests (to the extent
they're able to) to get validation and treatment from the hospital
staff.  We're not talk CFIDS/pseudocandidiasis here--a Munchausen
sociopath would never be satisfied with a disease with such a diffuse
set of symptoms and with so few clinical tests and effective treatments.

A diagnosis of Munchausen's generally comes from noticing inconsistencies
in the patient's presentation and by catching them in the act of faking
lab results (e.g., placing blood in urine samples, or contaminating
specimens).

An even more horrific manifestation of this syndrome is Munchausen's-by-
proxy, when a parent or guardian uses their _child_ in an attempt to
subject him/her to unnecessary medical attention (including invasive
procedures).

From what I understand, these people are pretty resistant to any sort
of therapy; their fate is to wander around clinics and hospitals who
haven't yet heard of them.


-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: Starting an alternative medicine newsgroup
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 04:12:02 GMT

geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:

| Kingsley, you out there?  David, Bob?  Anyone?
| Even Lee?

Gordon my good man, I can't tell you how thrilled I am to be mentioned
next to someone who's in my kill file!

Perhaps the group you'd like to see should be named sci.med.crabby-docs .
(Just kidding. (:-{)> )

I reject the notion that only one medical school of thought deserves
the label "science" as much as I reject the notion that only Jerry
Falwell's brand of religion deserves the label "Christian".

School-of-thought bashing is one of medicine's oldest traditions, and
we're not going to change that no matter what we do here on Usenet.

Seriously proposing that one's own school of thought can lay claim to
the name "sci.med" while "those other people just find somewhere else
to go" is not going to cool any flames.  And cooling flames seems to be
the goal.

If there's really motivation to split things up, I suggest nobody
wind up with "sci.med", and that everybody pick a new third word
for their respective school of thought.

(Picking names for other peoples' schools of thought could be an
amusing, if flame-throwing, pasttime!  (:-{)> )

BW

== Bob Yazz ==
-- 


The difference between the Bushes and the Clintons is that with the
Clintons, it's the wife who dyes her hair to look younger.
From: jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Joyce Morris)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: health ethics, law and labor relations
Summary: books or articles suggested
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:07:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I will soon be required to send in a textbook order if I decide to
use a textbook for this three in one class next spring.  I have
reviewed some books and articles but I know that I have not discovered
all that exists.  I am currently planning to spend an equal
amount of time on each of the three areas [ie, five weeks each].

1) Are there books or articles that you would recommend?
   Cost should be low since I will need to use three books if I
   go with books.

2) Students/former students: Do/did you have a preference for
   textbooks over articles? 

3) Healthcare practitioners:  If you have any real-life case
   studies that you think would be approrpiate for the students
   I would appreciate receiving these.  If possible I would
   rather have the students wrestle with real problems than
   the arbitrary ones I would make up based on my biased view
   of reality

Students should be seniors in public health administration although they
may be juniors.  They will go into the whole range of entry level
administrative positions in health care organizations - hospitals,
nursing homes, drug companies, voluntaries, local and state health
departments, etc.  Some also will be going to med school or other
type of graduate study.

Thanks

Joyce Morris  jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Question of dehydration.
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:08:34 GMT


o
How does one know if one is getting dehydrated?
what are the symptoms?
How long can these last?
What is the best method of recovery?

Tankx
Wm.

--
    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
    Fish on the Byte
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: dementia
Keywords: senile  Alzheimer's
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:12:07 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <717874950@romeo.cs.duke.edu> jfh@duke.cs.duke.edu (Fran Heidlage) writes:
>
>
>	Is there a difference between senile dementia and Alzheimer's
>	disease?  I have the impression that they are two different
>	entities, but I have a friend who argues that they are older
>	and more recent names, respectively, for the same thing.
>	How do the docs on the net use these terms?  Thanks.
>

Senile dementia is a descriptive term for dementia in the elderly.
Alzheimer's is a disease with pathological correlates.  Most
cases of senile dementia are Alzheimer's disease.


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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:58:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AI Program, University of Georgia, Athens

In article <16692@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:

>This is really minor compared to say, a patient who has
>pseudoseizures (phoney seizures that mimic epilepsy).

Phoney seizures?

Sounds like a story worth telling...


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