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From: doug@owl.isis.org (Douglas W Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: RS232 Test connector pinout?
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 01:08:15 GMT
Organization: Quoi! me organized?

dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather) writes:

Hi,

Thanks for the info.  You are quite right, I should have specified a bit 
more what I am trying to test.  The scenario in question is that I have a an 
automated blood testing system that supposedly uses pins 2,3,7 and pins 5 
jumpered to 20.  The software that is being used makes use of software flow 
control to talk to the box.  The software vendor indicated that shorting 
pins 2 and 3 and doing a set host to the port, I should then be able to see 
my characters echoed back  to me.  I know that if I do that with a port 
configured for a term, this works but with the port configured for this 
instrument that is not so true.

At any rate, I proved (with some pain and equipment) that the VAX hardware 
was healthy and that by looking (sho proces/cont) at the process, that his 
software was not making any effort to send data to the port in question.

Sooo... Thanks again for the info and I will be doing some more testinin the 
days to come so that I can satisfy my curiousity.

Doug!
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: brent@uwovax.uwo.ca (Brent Sterner)
Subject: %BACKUP-E-NOMSG, Message number 00A38012 ???
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:22:18 GMT

   OK, I've been doing other work for too long.  I have a user who
   complained that backup produced the following diagnostics:

     %BACKUP-E-NOMSG, Message number 00A38012

	and

     %BACKUP-W-NOMSG, Message number 00A38410

   So I pumped the numbers through the DCL f$message lexical, and the
   messages are indeed exactly what the user reported.  So, what is wrong
   (and what is *really* going on)?  Hints would be appreciated.  A clear
   resolution would be met with his eternal gratitude.  Chow,  b.
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       The University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada  N6A 5B7
From: SYSTEM_JM@UNODE1.NSWC.NAVY.MIL ("SYSTEM SUPPORT")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: DECPS..anybody using it??? - Yes!
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:09:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

>I'm interested in knowing if anyone has used the new DEC PS performance
>monitoring software. If so, what's your opinion? Do you have any 
>recommendation for other (3rd party) performance monitoring software?

We've used VAX Performance Advisor (VPA) and Software Performance Monitor 
(SPM) and we're switching over to DECps now.  DECps has four components -
Data Collector, Performance Advisor, Capacity Planner, and Accounting
Chargeback.  For the most part, DECps looks like VPA. The Capacity Planner
has improved and allows you to do more "what-if's". One gotcha - DECps 
currently doesn't include all of the functionality of SPM (real-time 
monitoring of applications). DEC announced at DECUS that DECps would 
eventually include all of capabilities of SPM and VPA.  I haven't found a 
real need ($) to have another third party product.


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** Naval Surface Warfare Center	                                           **
** Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD)                                              **
** Dahlgren, VA 22448-5000                                                 **
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From: Paul.Robinson@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Robinson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: TAR and Compress
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:03:26 -0500

Someone reading one of these newsgroups was nice enough to let me know  
that he could send me an MS-DOS format TAR and/or COMPRESS to allow me  
to extract files from .TAR and .Z archives.  
 
 
 
Unfortunately I am using a different terminal program due to a computer  
failure, one without a scrollback buffer, and I deleted his message by
 
accident.  
 
 
 
Whoever it was that offered to send me a UUENCODE version of TAR and/or
 
COMPRESS for MS-DOS, I appreciate your offer and I do want to obtain
 
it.  
 
 
 
You can either mail it to this address or to my address on MCI Mail,
 
TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM.  This address has a 100 line limit in general on
 
incoming messages, and splits messages somewhat longer than that; MCI
 
Mail either has no limit or it's over 110K, as I've received single
 
files from Internet that size.
From: ratel@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Gilles Ratel 8720)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RECALL/OUTPUT=filename (supplement)
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:56:09 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

Saturday, I have post a question:

> Hello,
>
>  Is it possible create a command  
>       "RECALL"  with option  "/OUTPUT=filename" ?  
>    or "RECALL"  with option  "> filename" ?
>
>    {with DCL or others}

Supplement:

     Commands file DCL        :  $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT filename
                                 $ DIRECTORY       {or SHOW TIME, etc.}
                                 $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT

                                 > O.K.

     But I have problem with  :  $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT filename
                                 $ RECALL/ALL
                                 $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT

                                 > size for "filename" is 0
                                 > ????

Thank you,


Gilles Ratel
=========================================
Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec
Email: ratel@ireq-ccfm.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: dsnlink
From: williamsca@hiramb.bitnet (Curtis Williams)
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:56:07 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-User: williamsca

In article <9736607080001659@CAER.UKY.EDU>, brown@caer.uky.edu (Eva Brown) writes:
> 
>  
> Is there anyone one using DSNLINK?  Any disadvantages or problems?

Yes, we are using DSNLink at Hiram College.  It is wonderful!  With DSNLink you
get direct access to the same database that Digital uses when you call the
Software Support number.  This means that you may be able to find the answer to
your question without waiting an hour or two for someone to return your call.

You can also submit service requests using DSNLink and receive a call sequence
number almost immediately.  Digital will then respond to your request using
DSNLink.

Once you have the sequence number you will be able to send files to them.  A
good use for this is sending them log files of the problem you're experiencing.

If you have specific questions, feel free to e-mail me.

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From: spinillo@MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: mx 3.1 and ucx 1.3
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:41:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

All of our outgoing mail gets to its destination, but some mail
that is intended for us fails to reach our node. Is any one
out there running MX 3.1 with UCX 1.3 that could give me some
insight on this problem.

Please send the answers to the list as I may not get the mail
directly.

Thanks

Anthony Spinillo - Tech Services
Marywood College   717 348 6215
Scranton, PA 19509
spinillo@marywood1.marywood.edu
From: rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to see decw$xxxx on another screen?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:43:41 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

> Telnet from a dec5000/200 with ultrix to a microvax3100
> run decw$whatever, but have it show up on the 5000's screen where I am sitting.
> 

Thanks for all the responses I got!
Here's a summary:

On the vax type

SET DISPLAY/CREATE/NODE=where.youre.sitting.edu/TRANSPORT=TCPIP


Thanks again.

Alan
Java Jack
From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Long lines and DCL line editing
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:40:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

There's been a lot of verbiage about this, including the claim that it's a bug
that DCL line editing doesn't work when a line has wrapped because it is wider
than the terminal.

Let's look at the facts.  Most important, this is NOT "DCL" line editing. This
is TERMINAL DRIVER line editing.  Exactly the same functionality is available
to any program that uses edited input from the terminal.  The only thing DCL
adds is multiple recall lines:  The terminal driver supports one line of
recall, but a program can tell the terminal driver NOT to do any recall, then
provide its own recall buffer.  DCL does that; SMG does that (READ_COMPOSED_-
LINE); any program that wishes to can do it itself.

Since the editing is done in the terminal driver, it has to be done within
the constrained driver environment.  There is no process context, limited
memory, no page faulting, operation at elevated IPL (hence the potential to
bog down processor performance if you take too long).

It's a designed and documented choice that the editing done in this difficult
and constrained environment be simple.  In particular, there are limits on
how clever the updater is.  You can have a TAB in a line, and it displays
as movement to the next tab stop; you can erase the TAB; you can add things
after it.  You can move the cursor back over it.  You can even add a TAB into
the middle of existing text.  However, you can't add anything to a line
BEFORE a TAB - though you can DELETE characters before the TAB.  Why?  Because
the implementor found some case that became too complicated to be worth
handling.  If I had to guess, it was deciding whether a line, after shifting
and re-computing tab expansions, would wrap.

In general, line wrap is a headache.  You can't cause a line wrap by inserting
characters into the middle of a line; you can only do it by adding characters
to the end of the line.

Most generally, once a line wraps, you can only edit the "tail" portion.  The
editor is not able to deal with updating two lines on the screen at once.
It's willing to let you have one or more fixed lines, followed by a single
active line.  If you delete enough characters from the active line, you can
get back to the previous "fixed" line - but notice how the terminal driver
implements this:  It redraws the entire line from the beginning.  It could
allow arbitrary edits in the middle of a wrapped line by doing this, but the
performance would be poor.  So the "n fixed plus one active" rule is enforced.
(This, BTW, explains why you can only force a line wrap at the END of a line:
If you could do it from within a line, you'd have the cursor in the middle
of a "fixed" line, which the terminal driver doesn't support.)

Don't bother SPR'ing this kind of stuff.  The chances of anyone going back
into that code to extend this are nil.  (I know the developer who did the
original editing code.  If he didn't see how to do it, it can't be done with-
out a LOT of trouble!)
							-- Jerry
From: DBURKE%VAXA.decnet@npt.nusc.navy.mil ("VAXA::DBURKE")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: ZIP'ed files and ftp
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:31:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Date sent:  14-SEP-1992 07:29:14 

Hi,
	Excuse me if the answer is obvious, but I haven't figured it out yet.

I zip our weekly backup log and then attempt to download it to a PC via ftp. It
fails miserably, either returning 0 bytes transfered (download originated from 
PC) or by hanging (download originated from VAX).  I am setting transfer mode 
to binary.  I have Wollygong on VMS and WINQVT and PCIP on PC.

	I can ZMODEM it down fine.  What am I doing/not doing correctly?

Thanks in advance.
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From: exubho@exu.ericsson.se (Blake Holman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Kermit for VMS?
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:58:51 GMT
Reply-To: exubho@exu.ericsson.se (Blake Holman)
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc., Richardson Texas

I am trying to get hold of kermit for VMS for a friend who is running
VMS 5.0 on a Microvax.  He does not have a C compiler or pascal
compiler - Does anyone out there know of somewhere where I can get 
this kind of KERMIT?

Blake Holman
Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Richardson, Texas
(214) 997-6784
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fisk@cvdv73 (Tom Fisk, 2D-337 STM, 5-4341)
Subject: Re: anyone patched SWiM for VMS 5.5?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: fisk@mayo.edu
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date:  7 Sep 1992 19:27 -0700

In article <1992Sep7.221100.11082@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>, ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag) writes...
>In the past I always used Steve Jennen multisession/multiwindow manager
>SWiM for vt100.
> 
>But with VMS 5.5 we installed MOTIF and the old TWA-driver has gone.
>SWiM was programmed to used the TWA devices.
> 
>I begged my system manager to reinstall the old TWA-drivers; he called DEC
>to ask whether this is ok and they said that they will drop the support if we
>install both: TWA and FTA-devices :-(
> 
>My knowledge of C and system-programming is very limited and I'm not able to
>patch SWiM to run with the new PTYs. sigh.
> 
>So, does anyone have done this job ? :-)
> 

While I haven't patched SWiM for the new drivers I have reinstalled the TW and
PY drivers and have had NO ill side effects from this.  I moved the drivers to
a non-VMS area and have added the following lines to my startup (VS3100-30, 
VMS 5.5-1):

$!
$! Install DECwindows (not DECwindows Motif) pseudo terminal drivers for SWIM
$! 
$  DEFINE VT USER_DISK4:[VAXSIG.TOOLS]
$  SYSGEN LOAD VT:TWDRIVER
$  SYSGEN LOAD VT:PYDRIVER
$  SYSGEN CONNECT PYA0:/NOADAPTER/DRIVER=PYDRIVER
$  SYSGEN CONNECT TWA0:/NOADAPTER/DRIVER=TWDRIVER
$! Install the swim executable
$  INSTALL CREATE VT:SWIM /OPEN/HEADER/SHARE/PRIV=SHARE
$

I cannot guarentee no ill side effects but I have had these drivers active for
about the last 3 months without any problems!  Good luck!  Tom.

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From: themos@umbc5.umbc.edu (Mr. Themos Pentakalos; ADMIN-COMP)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VAX Rdb 4.0 (upgrade)
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:39:39 GMT
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County

Hi everyone.
We are getting ready to upgrade to Rdb 4.1 but for no apparent
reason. Can someone summarize any advantages of 4.1 over 4.0?
Also, are there any major known bugs on 4.0 that are corrected
with 4.1?

Thanks a lot. Sorry if this is not an appropriate list.

By the way, please reply to:	themos@umbc5.umbc.edu

-Themos
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DECPS..anybody using it??? 
From: williamsca@hiramb.bitnet (Curtis Williams)
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:16:18 -0500
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-User: williamsca

In article <1992Sep10.165007.2381@ttinews.tti.com>, frazier@orion.TTI.COM (kent Frazier) writes:
> I'm interested in knowing if anyone has used the new DEC PS performance
> monitoring software. If so, what's your opinion? Do you have any 
> recommendation for other (3rd party) performance monitoring software?
> 

I just installed it a couple of weeks ago here at Hiram College.  I think it's
wonderful!  I'm running it on our cluster, but I log in to the cluster from a
workstation just so I can use Windows and actually see the graphs before I print
them in Postscript.  The analysis that it has given so far has been accurate and
the recommendations are good.

I have no information on 3rd party software.  Sorry.

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Hiram College
Hiram, OH  44234
Voice: 216-569-5314	Fax:   216-569-5462

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                        INTERNET: williamsca%hiramb.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

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From: CAPTANSKI33@SNYCORVA.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Talk
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Please reply directly to captanski33@snycorva.bitnet. Can someone explain
to me how to use talk? I am on a VAX running VMS 5.4-3. Thanks.

Chris Tanski
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: RECALL/OUTPUT=filename (supplement)
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:19:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Thomas Brand (BrandT@rferl.org) writes:

>or easier yet
>
>$DEFINE/EXECUTIVE/USER SYS$OUTPUT filename
>$RECALL/ALL
>
>Define/USER defines a logical only for the next image activated, it saves the
>step of deassinging it agian.

First, you need SYSNAM privilege to use /EXECUTIVE_MODE.  Not likely for an 
ordinary account.  Second, /EXECUTIVE_MODE and /USER_MODE are mutially 
exclusive, so the second qualifier (/USER) overrides the first (/EXEC).  Third, 
RECALL doesn't run an image, so user-mode logical names are not automatically 
deleted after the RECALL command.  They'll stick around until image rundown of 
whatever the next image is after the RECALL command.

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 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: RECALL/OUTPUT=filename (supplement)
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:16:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> Supplement:
> 
>      Commands file DCL        :  $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT filename
>                                  $ DIRECTORY       {or SHOW TIME, etc.}
>                                  $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT
> 
>                                  > O.K.
> 
>      But I have problem with  :  $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT filename
>                                  $ RECALL/ALL
>                                  $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT
> 
>                                  > size for "filename" is 0
>                                  > ????

The RECALL command are ignored unless it is executed directly from a
terminal. Sorry !

(for all other uses than RECALL/ALL it is quite reasonable)

The following small MACRO routine and the FORTRAN program can probably be
modified to suit your needs:

        .title  recall
        .link   "sys$system:sys.stb"/selective_search
        .link   "sys$system:dcldef.stb"/selective_search
PRC_C_CMDBUFSIZ=1025
        .psect  $LOCAL quad,pic,con,lcl,noshr,noexe,wrt
buf1:   .blkb   PRC_C_CMDBUFSIZ         ; first copy of recall-buffer
buf2:   .blkb   PRC_C_CMDBUFSIZ         ; second copy of recall-buffer
        .psect  $CODE quad,pic,con,lcl,shr,exe,nowrt
        .entry  recall,^m<iv,r2,r3,r4,r5,r6,r7,r8,r9,r10,r11>
        movl    B^4(ap),r11
        cvtwl   (r11),r8
        movl    B^4(r11),r11
        movl    B^8(ap),r10
        movl    #0,r9
        movl    #CTL$AG_CLIDATA,r0
        movl    W^PPD$L_PRC(r0),r0
        movl    W^PRC_L_RECALLPTR(r0),r7
        moval   W^PRC_G_COMMANDS(r0),r0
        subl2   r0,r7
        moval   buf1,r1
        movc3   #PRC_C_CMDBUFSIZ,(r0),(r1)
        moval   buf1,r1
        moval   buf2,r2
        movc3   #PRC_C_CMDBUFSIZ,(r1),(r2)
        moval   buf2,r6
        addl2   r6,r7
        subl3   #PRC_C_CMDBUFSIZ,r7,r6
100$:   decl    r7
        cmpl    r7,r6
        blss    200$
        tstb    (r7)
        bleq    200$
        cvtbl   (r7),(r10)
        subl2   (r10),r7
        movc3   (r10),(r7),(r11)
        decl    r7
        decl    r7
        addl2   #4,r10
        addl2   r8,r11
        incl    r9
        brb     100$
200$:   movl    r9,@B^12(ap)
        ret
        .end

      PROGRAM ZZ
      INTEGER*4 L(100),N,I
      CHARACTER*80 S(100)
      CALL RECALL(S,L,N)
      DO 100 I=1,N
        WRITE(*,*) S(I)(1:L(I))
100   CONTINUE
      END

Hope it helps !

PS: The MACRO can probably be improved, but it was written in a hurry and
I has never had time to improve it.

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: Re: RECALL /OUTPUT=filename?
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:24:09 GMT

In article <Bu3x58.Mtw@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, ratel@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Gilles
Ratel 8720) writes:
>   Is it possible create a command  
>        "RECALL"  with option  "/OUTPUT=filename" ?  
>     or "RECALL"  with option  "> filename" ?

Well, you could temporarily redirect output from the screen to a file,
like:

	$ define sys$output recall.dat
	$ recall/all
	$ deassign sys$output

The file RECALL.DAT would then contain up to the last 20 commands that
you issued (including, unfortunately, the "define sys$output" one). 
Anybody got a better way?
-- 
Kimberly B. Churchwell, Prog./Analyst, Okla. State U.  | TANSTAAFL, but
Osteopathic College--churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu   | even so, I never
BIX--kchurchwell  AOL--KChurchwel  CIS--72170,1552     | quit hoping.
From: GREG@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU (Tigger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:47:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> I'm not mad at this guy because he happens to be in a flame war with me.
> There's just a problem when a system administrator makes up accounts and
> uses them to be a net.dickhead.  Who watches the watchmen?
>
> Any comments?
 
Yes.  As a system manager myself, I think his supervisor might be very
interested in escapades.

Yes.  As a net user, would you like me to shoot him before or after I
run him over?

--
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