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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:58:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.173604.4181@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.33034.27688@ms.uky.edu> borders@ms.uky.edu (Johnny Borders) writes:
>>rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Aug16.211822.5261@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>
>>>Recalling my Chinese history class, China has never been succeeded in 
>>>invading Japan. There were several attempt to do so though but most 
>>>often they were stopped by typhoons during their way. Furthermore,
>>>China has never been strong in their navy at all. 
>
>Actually, Nelson, there were only 2 attempts. As for China's Navy, you are 
>correct, though they are now improving their "blue water" capability.

Mike, this is not your fault, but this is faulty attribution.  It was Raymond
Choy who wrote the above quote.  I went back, in another post of mine, the
two *Mongolian* invasions.  (I emphasize Mongolian, since I don't consider
those invasions Chinese in origin.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:12:19 EDT
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re:Arechinese womenmore attractive than they were 40 yrs ago

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In usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)'s post
Subject: Are Chinese women more attractive than they were 40 years ago
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:01:12 GMT

Here is a piece of news from CND:

[Reuters 8/16/92] SHANGHAI -- A 24-year-old bus passenger, Dong Huibo, died
in the street, after tangling with one of the city's dreaded woman bus
conductors.   His nightmare began inside the bus when the ticketpuncher
snarled an insult about the shape of his backside.   She swore at him,
slapped his face and broke his glasses, made a grab for his testicles, then
stood back and aimed a vicious kick at his private parts.  As he scrambled
out of a window, the driver -also a woman- slammed her foot on the
accelerator pedal and sent him flying. (From: Di Bi Cao)


What do you folks think? Are Chinese women more attractive than they were 40
years ago?

Carl
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             This kind of ladies were not rare in the past. However
             those in the story have reached a new stage of complishment.
             Unlike Sun er Niang,who made Ren Rou Bao Zi in Song Dynasty,
             they  got job done without blood.
             What amazed me was that those Nu Zhong Hau Jei were from
             Shanghai. Bu Rang Xu Mei.
             If Mao was stil alive, he must be proud of thier Sa Shuang
             Ying Zi and 5 feet guns.
             They were so attractive that the poor young grad student
             had to die without a complain.
             Zhe Nian Tou (Such an age )!!!!

             X Xu
From: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Why should we demand the "Japs" say SORRY to China?
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:35:08 GMT
Reply-To: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Organization: North Carolina State University

>> 
>> 	Why does Japan do well?  It doesn't demand the US to say sorry for
>> the nuclear bombing each and every time an US president visits.  It doesn't
>> refuse the US "war criminals" to donate money for their postwar  
>reconstruction.

       Why US need to say sorry to Japan ? It is totally uncessary. Think
about how many people Japan killed during WW -II then you would think they
desreve to recieve some bombs.


>> 
>> 	Chairman Mao was the one who refuse and demand for almost 30 years
>> after the war.  Then he probably realized that it was stupid.  But there are
>> still stupid guys 50 years after the war.
>> 
>> dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
>
>
>
>They are not stupid! They are just more realistic.
>
>Carl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jlam@ecr.mu.oz.au (Full Name)
Subject: Re: OLYMPICS RESULT
Keywords: wishful thoughts..
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:47:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.050929.28932@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>
>Just for your reference.
>
>
>>FINAL OLYMPIC RESULT
>>                              Gold Silver Bronze Tot.
>>Unified Team                  45   38      29    112
>>United States                 37   34      37    108
>>Germany                       33   21      28     82
>>China                         16   22      16     54
>>KOREA, UNIFIED                16    5      17     38 **
>>Cuba                          14    6      11     31
>>Spain                         13    7       2     22
>>South Korea                   12    5      12     29 *
>>Hungary                       11   12       7     30
>>France                         8    5      16     29
>>Australia                      7    9      11     27
>>Italy                          6    5       8     19
>>Canada                         6    5       7     18
>>Britain                        5    3      12     19
>>Romania                        4    6       8     18
>>Czechoslovakia                 4    2       1      7
>>North Korea                    4    0       5      9 *
>>Japan                          3    8      11     22
>>Bulgaria                       3    7       6     16
>>Poland                         3    6      10     19
>>Holland                        2    6       7     15

The result is not additive, as has been shown in the present OG that unified
Germany does not get so many medals as had EG and WG combined together in the
last OG.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
    <1992Aug19.191851.6809@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:57:41 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:

>Even though there were conflict and border dispute. It was China who caused the  
>conflict. Vietnam was not so stupid to hit both Cambodia and China at the same  
>time. So China has no excuse.


Oh, really. Then the Iraq is so stupid to hit US first?

>Carl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: Where is Norway?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:53:20 GMT

dickhoff@NERO.WUSTL.EDU writes:

>Overheard:

>Q :  Why do people call that glacial Scandinavian state "Norway" ?

>A :  Because it is on the way to NOWHERE.  <== hell 

It really doesn't matter what Norway is, with its tiny population,
and arrogant/ignorant/racist residents, it will take only TWO Chinese
Nuclear bombs to wipe out the entire "civilization".

I guess it would help to find out "where" No-where is before it's
nuked!

Get a life!  You can't afford to offend China, everyone knows that!

-- 
"Now we insist that the customers use condoms, and most do.
We hit them on their most sensitive point, saying we are protecting
their families."              -- Margarita, Mexico City prostitute
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) that really hurts! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:23469 soc.culture.taiwan:12144 soc.culture.hongkong:9974 soc.culture.japan:7024
From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:51:03 GMT

In article <Aug.17.14.16.43.1992.12418@romulus.rutgers.edu>  
szhou@romulus.rutgers.edu (Shiyu Zhou) writes:
> As I know, many Chinese, a number of Asian People, as well as some
> westerners, donot like Japs.  I am not thinking about which side's
> fault.  But, if you don't like Japs, you can refer Japan as 'it',
> 'its' instead of 'her' which sounds sometimes or somewhat
> uncomfortable though that is western tradition.
> 
> ming
> -- 
> Ming  He				cs101442@sol.yorku.ca
> My account must have HIV, so this is not my account.
> CLAIMER: I am from Beijing, China

Oh, boy! You are really rough!

Carl
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: re: A open letter to the emperor of Japan
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:46:30 GMT


In article <2404@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>
>>I can't understand this completely. For me, a war-hate person, many 
>>Chineses and Koreans still hate Japanese, for the simple reason that
>>the lies are continuing floating in Japanese history books. 
>
>Sorry, but I don't see the connection. 
>
>From what people have told me, yes, the history in Japanese books is
>pretty 'creative'. But why does that lead you to hate them? Why do
>you care? Why do you spend any time trying to stop people from
>telling what you believe to be the truth, why not just tell it like
>you think it is? 

I simply stated a fact. Personaly, I have no trouble knowing who
should be despised after I met some nice japaneses. It is just crazy to
hate all the Japanese people exclusively.

>> We see no
>>honesty in doing this, but potential threats. It is better to be prpared 
>>than to be sorry again. Once I came across a Japanese girl who absentmindly
>>said that Manchuria STILL should be Japanese. A Japanese history book even
>>went so far as to say "the (Japanese) troops came to the capital (Nanking), 
>>because they were defeated." I think this sorta thing is the most important 
>>cause that induces the bad feeling.
>
>It sounds like you are letting Japan write *your* history books. Could
>the bad feeling be coming from your laziness or whatever it is that
>is stopping you from writing your own?

After I read a lot of your stuffs, I got the impression that the victims
should be the ones who deserve to be blamed, that the victims should be
ready to forgive even though the other part is not ready to admit the crimes.

>>The apology is not the real aim. The history books should tell people the
>>truth. For many Chineses and Koreans, the apology does make difference. Many 
>>reasonable people are afraid of the kind of things, happening in the 
>>ex-Sov republics and Yugoslavokia (?), will happen again to us. The war
>>is over, it is unfair to revenge young generations for the past. The really 
>>important thing is to learn something from it. Covering the crimes can't lead 
>>us to this goal.
>
>Why not assume a worst case scenario and consider the possiblity
>that Japan has learned nothing except that it has to create it's
>empire some other way. What are you going to do about it other than
>complain that Japan should change to make your life easy for you?

FROM YOUR REASONING, now I understand that we chineses and koreans should
be well prepared for another offensive invasion, when many people in Japan
are still be deceived, and when misunderstandings are still created to lessen
the flarant crimes.

Are you alright, Mr. McLane?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan
From: ibm01@acci.com.au (William Lo - Elvis? I am!)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: IBM Australia/Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:29:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.201844.3220@ducvax.auburn.edu>, kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:
|> >killed. Over how many days they were killed. Various specific stories
|> >of eyewitnesses.  You could have uploaded scanned photographs to ftp
|> >sites.  You obviously know that the Japanese Gov't wont apologize to
|> ^^^^^^^^
|> >
|> >-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
|> >               CompuServe:  70402,3020
|> >               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
|> 
|> What a great Idea!!!

	Yep! 

|> 
|> Would you any one upload photos related to this issue on this net.
|> 
|> Every body can see the physical and vivid historical proof of how
|> brutal the Imperial Japanese Army was..

	Also, heaps of books are available in your library. They have
related photos and comments, too. Facts are facts.

|> 
|> So interesting Idea.
|> Seeing is believing and has more power than the words.

What you see is not always what you get. But yes, seeing is believing,
fair enough.


---Just don't cry, but don't smile either,
	Bill
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: two things for evaluating CCP (follow up to YiDangSiLi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:20:28 GMT

1.  The Japanese apology issue

Even the Japanese give trillions of Yens to CCP, if the Chinese people decide
to shutdown CCP, those money still cannot save CCP's ass.  Particularly, the
Japanese is NOT going to give much money to CCP. 

I wish CCP would understand this simple Dao(road)Li(reason).

2. Blood card issue

The "Blood Card Bill" intends to (orally at least) protect "those students"
from being possibly persecuted by CCP.  It is NOT a bill protecting someone 
from Shannon Yeh or Scott Horne.  It is a bill protecting some Chinese students
from the Chinese Communist Party.  

Let's see how CCP react on this insult imposed by their own people (CSS in the 
US) and imposed by a foreign government.

shannon
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:15:16 EDT
From: <JXL124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: ? about unzipping ZWDOS

Could anyone tell me how to use pkunzip.exe to unzip ZW-dos21?  Each time I use
the following command line, an error message appears:

        Command line: pkunzip zwdos21.zip
        Error message: error in zipfile, use PkfileFix...

But when I use pkunzip.exe to unzip other zip files, it works fine.  I wonder
if there is a trick in the zwdos.zip.  Thanks for the help.
                                                           J.Luo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten)
Subject: Re: JFK-THE MOVIE.
Organization: /cuba_b/dirbe/roten/.organization
X-Newsreader: GNU Emacs 18.57.1, GNUS 3.13, NNTP 3.10
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:08:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.15425.19721@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) 
writes:

>christina.barrett@madness.network23.com (Christina Barrett)  writes:

>>I was wondering how many of you people have watched JFK the movie.  I
>>still talk about how the movie was so good.  I try explaining the theory
>>about the "Magic Bullet" and how there was evidence of more than 1
>>gunman and how the shot that killed the President came from behind the
>>picket fence.  I was never much into seeing movies.  But i saw this
>>movie 3 times.  Even tho i'm only 14 i can say that i used my money
>>wisely.  Heh.
>>                                                                             

>Just saw it. I don't want to talk about the real story, but worth to see the
>film (movie for US). Not bad than the "Silence of the lamb".

Uh, Li, I hate to rain on your parade, but the director of that film, 
Oliver Stone (also known as Oliver 'Stoned'), is about as objective a 
historian as the average writer for the National Enquirer.  He makes 
Procopius of Ceasareia look like a model of journalistic integrity.  BTW, 
if you want a *really* good laugh, read Procopius' sixth century 
propaganda masterpiece, the 'Secret History', sometime.  You're sides 
won't stop hurting for a week, you'll laugh so hard ... :-)  

As a chap who grew up in this country, I've gotta tell 'ya .. conspiracy 
theories about the assassination of JFK are the American political 
equivalent of Mah Jong.  Americans delight in wasting endless time making 
up and defending various crackpot ideas about who was 'really' behind 
JFK's death.  

Personally, I think it was little green men from Mars ... :-)  :-)  

The only really decent television investigation of the JFK assassination 
was a NOVA ( !?!?! .. that's right, the PBS science documentary) segment 
that aired about a decade or so ago.  They came to the conclusion that 
the most robust hypothesis was that the folks in charge of the forensic 
investigation simply screwed up.  In simple language, they blew it.  
Don't be too surprised, it happens all the time, even these days.  And 
this was almost 30 years ago.  

Never attribute to conspiracy something that can be attributable to 
stupidity.  Our common ancestor, the 'missing link', was homo.idioticus.  

--
Charles Roten | Hughes-STX, Incorporated | 
  roten@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov               | 'Use the Source, Luke!'
  7601 Ora-Glen Dr., Greenbelt, MD 20706 | 
  301-513-7805 (w),  301-317-0872 (h)    |            Obi-Wan Stallman
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Australia Satellite Successfully Launched
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:05:08 GMT

In article <10390022@iftccu.boeing.com> alee@iftccu.boeing.com (Alexander Lee) writes:
>
>Congratulations in deed!
>
>May many more successful satelite launches by China come!
>
>I'd like to hear "how China comes from nowhere to launch satelites" theory.
>Those Chinese scientists must take some kind of steroids to do this :-)
>
this must be true.  5 months ago their rocket can't even move off the
ground, I think they used steroids as fuel this time.  ;-)

>May I be offered some, please!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gretchen@yap.las.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Japs don't say SORRY to China?
Organization: Speech Comm, University of Illinois
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:41:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug8.120111.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> bioysl@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:

>The Japanese emp. is likely visiting China this October, but will NOT express
>apology about invading China in 1930's.  Can someone confirm this news.

>If it is true, I think we should try to give some pressure to the Japs and ask
>them to DI1 TOU2 REN4 ZUI4 and pay the compansations to our people.

>Don't you think, guys?


I think you are right!  Japanese emp. should express apology to Chinese for 
the invasion in 1930's!

We should let our voices be heard that we want his apologies.

 Speech Communication Department
 University of Illinois
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in China
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:15:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.195115.10289@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.225523.13198@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug17.210017.16991@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
>>>In article <199208171938.AA10725@thames.bu.edu> lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU writes:
>>>>
>
>>You Westeners have the authority to say all thing happened in China?
>>The original story was claimed written by a "Chinese", was that a good
>>enough evidence to say it did happen!
>
>Yes! I am assuming that neither of the contributors was lying. It follows
No! Accusation does not imply the facts!
I wonder what is the correlation between the "No where" of NorWay appeared on
scc and the article written "Swandens's largest moring news papers" on
"carnnabalism" of China!
>then that a single instance of cannabalism constitutes proof that cannabalism
>did occur. A lack of cannabalism in one small corner of the country does
>not prove it did not occur.
>
>If you reread my original posting, you will see that I was merely pointing
>out a bit of faulty logic. I did not take a side in the argument.
>
>>Why so many Westeners more eager to say it did hapened than Chinese on this
>>net from the name of authors of posting?
>>Before any hard evidence came up?
>
>Why do you assume I am committed to the proposition that cannabalism *did*
>occur in China? I really couldn't care less:  it seems like a perfectly
                 Then leave!
>natural thing to happen during a famine *anywhere* in the world.
>
>I'm more interested in observing how people react to the *possibility* that
>cannabalism might have occured in China. (How would you categorize your 
>reaction?) If I'm just an observer, they why my posting? I have a strong 
               putting "make up" opn your face! I do not really care what does
               one of 6billion creatures thinks! Stopp put yourself into 
              discussion! Attension graber!
>dislike for poor argumentation, be it pro-China, anti-China, or neither.
     Judgmental phrasing implys " poor argumentation" on original issue!
  bye!
From: cehx@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: where is Scott Horne?
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:44:14 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Aug11.002449.24076@nic.umass.edu>, s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
> 
> hello, anyone know where is Scott Horne? I like to keep in touch with him.
He has gone back to china to do some concrete work instead of void talking here
as most of us doing. He once talked with me on the net about the topic of going
back to china and serving our country, he said " I will well do that".
> 
> -- 
> // s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins)
> // this message is made possible through the contributions of: 
> // zxcvbnm,./';lkjhgfdsaqwertyuiop[]\=-0987654321`
> // ~!@#$%^&*()_+|}{POIUYTREWQASDFGHJKL:"?><MNBVCXZ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: Do they really worth more?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:32:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.222717.7528@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@z.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:

> [...]
>Also, it is one of the Taiwanese culture to spend lots of money for the
>dead person, because people believe that 'luxury funeral' is good for the
>dead person in the hell.
             ^^^^^^^^^^^
>Yi-Chieh

  Seems the money is totally wasted if the dead person is already in
  the hell.  :-)

  In my hometown, one of the reasons people spend a good deal of money
  to have a satisfactory funeral is that they wish the dead to go to
  Heaven.

-ping