HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rszczerb@vivaldi.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Truth
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:27:30 GMT
Followup-To: pszymans@bach.helios.nd.edu
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


Question:  Why did all those Miami fans cry so much when ND wouldn't continue
           the series with them.


Answer:    ND gives justification to Miami's pitiful existence.  For example,
           where would the Penguin be without Batman ... where would Goldfinger
           be without Bond ... and where would mashed potatos be without gravy.



        - The Parakeet
From: valdis@skat.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Laszlo Toth, USC football fan
Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:21:24 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug12.220255.27417@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
>In article <l8gu4rINN849@spica.usc.edu> valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) wr
>ites:
>

>
>     I get it now! How brilliant! This "Valdis Kalejs" character is actually a
>takeoff on Don Novello's "Laszlo Toth" of "Laszlo Letters" fame! The same
>overworked emotion, the same complete devotion to trivial things, the same
>skill at spelling. . .how could I have been so blind!? Whoever thought "Valdis"
>up deserves a handshake and a beer -- next time I'm in Los Angeles for an OSU
>Rose Bowl you'll get them (It may take a while -- John Cooper's contract was 
>recently extended) Keep up the good work!  :-)
>
>                                        Steve
Steve,
Great! I'll be the guy in the USC section with the t-shirt that reads: All I
want for Christmas is a Buckeye! 


Valdis
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:03:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amoco Production

>
>+ BTW, what is the Pac-10's tie breaker???
>
>I've been informed that the tie breaker is given to the team that has been
>the longest away from the RBowl.
>
So Washington can be undefeated, ranked #1 and not get invited to the 
Rose Bowl...  I LOVE IT!!!  Another year the Rose Bowl misses a Nat'l
Championship game!!

cmuck
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:12:39 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <65796@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) wrote:
>}
>}	(much-needed BYU MNC-bashing deleted . . .)
>}There were plenty of better teams than Michigan, but none of them wanted to
>}play in the Holiday and/or they weren't invited. 
>
>(BTW, it's >all the fault of those cheatin' Florida Gators.  If they hadn't
>been on probation it would have (1) made them a stronger MNC
>candidate, possibly drawing votesaway from BYU and (2) made for
>one less bowl slot, probably leaving Michigan in the cold and
>sending a better team to the Holiday Bowl. :-) )
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

Hmmm.  Well, LSU might have been that team since that would have made
them SEC-runners up.  But again--

If UF were NOT on probation they would NOT have had the best team money
could buy (including an offensive line that outweighed LSU's best by an
average of ~30lbs!!!), and, thus, not have been ranked #3, as well as in
first place in the SEC.  So you'd have had the same scenario, Michigan
et al.


-- 
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GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "That haircut of yours might be city-style,
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
James Clyde     LSU '91   |             -- Briscoe Darlin, T.A.G.S.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito)
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 00:28:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.143529.27749@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>
>
>>What about the bowl game.  If washington and A&M go thru a soft schedule
>>undefeated, but then play a team with a 'tough' schedule like Miami/FSU?/...
>>and beat them, I think they have proven themselves.  Who did BYU play the
>>year they won the MNC in the bowl game?  Did they have a chance to prove
>>themselves there?
>
>That one is a pretty sore subject with UW fans.  BYU beat a pretty weak
>Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl that year (84?).  BYU won the MNC
>simply because they were undefeated--no attention was given to their
>relatively weak schedule.  Washington thumped Oklahoma (who was no. 1 or
>2 at the time) in the Orange bowl and finished no. 2.
>
>
>Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
>jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
>                        

Yeah, Michigan was 6-6 that year.  As a side note, BYU had to go for it
on fourth down to win that game as well...  As another side note, UW also
played Michigan that year up in Ann Arbor.  It was early in the year, and
Michigan was just coming off an upset of Miami, which had won the NC the
year before, so Michigan was ranked 2nd or something like that.  UW
thumped 'em.

Richard


-- 
-Richard
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win it all??
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug12.203850.17885@spdc.ti.com>, dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes...
#Coming close isn't doing it.  And they *haven't* come close, as you say.
#They haven't even come within two *seasons* of doing it.  Sure, if the close
#games had gone the other way... But, by that reasoning, the OU streak could
#have been over 60 victories.  I just think there are too many good teams out
#there these days.

Okay, let's turn this thing around:  if Oklahoma had *played* any of the 
tough teams in their era, they might not have won those 47 games in a row.
Maybe if Oklahoma had played in a bowl game after the '54 and '56 seasons,
the streak wouldn't have been that long.  If Miami, Notre Dame, or any
other team would have done that in their streaks, they'd have been taken
to task, Oklahoma wasn't.  You'll notice that the two close games I chose
required only one play to be changed in each (I didn't, for example, say
"If Miami had beat FSU in '89" since they lost that game handily):  the
Giftopolous interception in the Fiesta and the questionable call in the 
ND game.  Two plays and five points were the difference between the 
Oklahoma streak and a comparable Miami one.  The Oklahoma streak might
have been extended by ten or so games if there were some reason to believe
that Oklahoma could just as easily have won the ND game as lost it, but
I don't think that was the case.  The streak was preceded by a loss and
a tie, so don't look for help on that end.

#It won't happen.  Only by actually doing it can my opinion be changed.
#Miami is the only team that could even dream of doing it right now.  And
#that is just a dream.

I don't think so, there are more than a few teams that could come out
for a couple of years on weak schedules and end up with a streak that rivals
or exceeds Oklahoma's.  IMHO, it is rather unimportant whether they will
or not.  I consider the Oklahoma streak on par with Joe DiMaggio's 56 game
hitting streak:  a statistical oddity more than a real measure of dominance.
Instead, I find a streak like Nebraska's 20+ seasons with 9 or more wins
to be more impressive.  Or a twelve-year period with less than ten losses, 
like Oklahoma in the 1950s (107-7-2).  I don't take away from the 
impressiveness of the Oklahoma team in that era, rather I point out that 
the streak is not the impressive thing about Oklahoma in the '50s.  And that
Miami has been nearly as impressive in the mid- to late-1980s.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
V262XXVE@UBVMS.BITNET
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beaverz, Indians (they were in 1927?) and the MNC
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:42:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Murasami Labs

Robert John Butera wrote:
> 
> In article <serdar.714264837@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au> serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas) writes:

> >Anyway, go Gooberz of A&M!

> I couldn't resist posting the following, even though it has NOTHING to
> do with college football:

> Quoted from a UPI news article on Senator Phil Gramm:

> "	Gramm, who revealed that he failed the third, seventh and ninth
> grades before his mother spurred him on to a doctorate's degree in
> economics at Texas A&M University ... "

> Looks like Mr. Gramm got a lot of opportunities from A&M :)

He claims to have taught Aggies more about economics than the Senate.

Not surprising, is it? Remember, send an Aggie to congress, and really
confuse things!

Football??? errr...ahhhh...errrr...6 more days...

James - beat the hell out of stanfraud
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Which would you choose??
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:33:56 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) wrote:
}
}        No offense, but please don't be a total putz about a game and 
}tradition that you don't know much about.  The contests have always been 
}very close.

The "very close" contests of the last 2 years are excellent examples:
56-21 and 55-10.  Real nail biters, those. ;-)

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"What kind of creator makes artichokes and 200,000 species of fruit fly? 
 If I'd been in charge of creation, I'd have made lasers - 8 AM, day one."
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Respect for NC State
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:44:50 GMT
Organization: Chevron

(Rob Black) writes:
>
>Apparently you do not keep up with Division 2 of the NCAA. Marshall was
>in last year's football final four for the Div. 2 and I think that they
>ended up losing in the finals as well. They are obviously no patsy, much
>like Dick Sheridan's teams at Furman in the early 80's. I would put the
>Top 5 in Div. 2 aginst a lot of teams in the Top 25 any day of the week.
>
>Rob Black                   black@concert.net             Raleigh, NC

Rob, meet Valdis.

Valdis, meet Rob.


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GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "That haircut of yours might be city-style,
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
James Clyde     LSU '91   |             -- Briscoe Darlin, T.A.G.S.
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hey Cliff...    (was: KICKOFF CLASSIC- NCSU's GREAT CHANCE)
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:05:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug18.170513.29914
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>>
>>
>>  If NCSU can beat Iowa in the Kickoff Classic, this win could propel NCSU
>> into the top 25 for years to come. Finally NCSU gets a chance to be exposed
>> completely to the nation without having to compete with a Miami vs. Nebraska
>> Orange Bowl, or the Rose Bowl like during January. It is the ONLY game in 
>> August.                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  ^^^^^^
>
>Hey Cliff, is this another case of ECMB?

No, Goob, this is a case of NCSMB.  Eastern Carolina doesn't get any media
bias.
 
****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:31:38 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug11.131809.13699@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
>>It doesn't matter who you think is number one. . . . .  Teams like Texas A&M 
>>and Washington, though, have a lighter schedule.  
>>
>>-Brian 
>
>I am holding my breath for an undefeated season for A&M, but with 13 games,
>the odds are against it.  Unless of course we play Middle of Your Grandmother's
>Corn State for 13 games.  :-)  With the downfall of the LSU program, and 
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the reputation of the SWC, A&M has had to scramble to make its schedule 
>tougher. 
>
>cmuck

Excuse ME!  OK.  LSU has had a few lackluster years; but lackluster
years does not a weak opponent make.  History review:

1986	@LSU	~9-2		LSU 35-17
1987 	@A&M	10-1-1		LSU 17-3
1988	@LSU	8-3		LSU 27-0
1989	@A&M	4-7		A&M 28-16
1990	@LSU	5-6		LSU 17-8  <====
1991	@A&M	5-6		A&M 45-7 (ouch)

Maybe the Tigers aren't quite back in full swing, but you can bet they'll 
be over .500, and tough at home (void Bama).

So STAND up for your schedule cmuck, and I'll see you Sept 5!!!!!!!!!


-- 
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GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "That haircut of yours might be city-style,
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
James Clyde     LSU '91   |             -- Briscoe Darlin, T.A.G.S.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt)
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win it all??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:12:38 GMT




In article <9208111757.AA10741@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes
:
>
>}On the restart of playing a ND-OU series: I have no idea what
>}motivates scheduling these days. Maybe if ND would get a newer, safer
>}and bigger stadium, they could get some good series going with big
>}schools.
>
>What's the word on Notre Dame's stadium?  I had heard that an upper
>deck was going to be added, but I haven't heard anything further.
>

I heard, I think from an alumni publication, that they decided not to do 
anything about the stadium for awhile!  No additions, no nothing!


>BTW, I'm curious as to what you mean by "good series" and "big schools."
>

I am curious as to what he meant about "safer"!  Also, it's not as if Notre 
Dame has been lacking in good series'.  This the first year they play a
semi-easy schedule, although Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Penn State and USC wont
be "easy" games!
-- 
           Susan E. Schudt                    0 0
     Dept. of Chemical Engineering
      Goooooooooooooooooo  IRISH!           \_____/
             Win Twins!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Re: UW news
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:14:09 GMT


In article <1992Aug20.155541.25368@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
|>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|>Path: taco!gatech!rpi!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!paul
|>From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
|>Subject: UW news
|>Message-ID: <1992Aug20.155541.25368@uwm.edu>
|>Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
|>Sender: news@uwm.edu (USENET News System)
|>Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
|>Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:55:41 GMT+5:00
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|>
|
|>
|>   Freshman John Rohde of Oswego, Ill. is quite literally the big man on
|>   campus. The Super Prep all-midwest selection who squats 550 lbs. and has
|>   a 29-inch verticle came in at 6-6, 350. 
|>
|>   --salty
|>
|>

Looks like we could start a RSFC all huge team. I hope this want appear as 
woofing but NCSU has George Hegamin 6'8 345. Let's compile a list of the 
bigguns.

RC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: richter@mcc.com (Charlie Richter)
Subject: Re: Which would you choose??
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:27:42 GMT

> Washington holds a 54-24-6 advantage over Washington State in the
> "Apple Cup" series.  That's not a rival, that's a punch drunk sparring
> partner.

Texas has a similar lead over Texas A&M.  Would you describe Texas A&M
as a "punch drunk sparring partner" for Texas?  (It's okay with me, by
the way, but Goob might object.)
-- 
Charlie Richter   MCC   Austin, Texas
  uucp: richter@milano.uucp     arpa: richter@mcc.com
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
From: cday@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Chris Day)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:57:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Washington (was: Re: Schedule determines #1)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college



>Fight On Trojans!

>Valdis R. Kalejs
>(#1 Trojan Football Fan)

>PS: At SC, were not snobs,were just better than you!


   Hmmmmmmm.  I wondered why there were 50+ responses on this posting.


   Chris Day

   P.S.  I have the Cal-USC video from last year if you'd be interested.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big 8 poll
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:15:06 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


Media poll found in the TopekaJournal

team	1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8		total
====	======================		pts
CU	34-31-21-04-01-00-00-00		639
NU	31-32-26-02-00-00-00-00		638
OU	26-27-31-05-00-00-00-00		619
KU	00-00-13-59-15-03-00-01		443
KSU	00-00-00-18-43-18-06-06		338
MU	00-00-00-01-20-33-21-16		242
ISU	00-00-00-02-07-28-38-16		214
OSU	00-00-00-00-04-09-26-22		147
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win it all??
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:44:18 GMT

In article <9208111757.AA10741@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes:
>Sidney Kitchel writes:
>
>}dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes:
>}
>}>Question:  when did OU and ND last play?  I know ND was our main nemesis in 
>}>the 50's to winning even more MNC's, (as Miami was in the 80's).  I, for one,
>}>would like to see that rivalry revived.
>}
>}	I believe it was 1968 in South Bend. Yes, the loss to ND in
>}1957 kept Bud Wilkinson's Sooners from winning a third NC in a row.
>
>Didn't that loss to ND end the longest winning streak (ever? up to that
>time?) in NCAA football history?

Yes, the longest winning streak of all time.  I'm embarrassed to admit
I can't remember exactly how many games, though.  I'll have to check.
It extended across four seasons, only completely across two : '55, '56.
I believe.

It's hard to imagine any team doing that now.  No, I don't think even the
mighty canez could pull that off nowadays. 

- Bill Dostalik



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lhominga@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Louis J Hominga)
Subject: Michigan State 1993 schedule
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:32:23 GMT

 does anyone know why Michigan State is Scheduled to Play Wisconsin on December
5, 1993 in TOKYO, JAPAN?

Who thought this one up?
From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beavers will win MNC fer sure!
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:49:49 GMT
 <1992Aug19.205754.757@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Aug19.213448.18742@cs.sfu.ca>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Aug19.213448.18742@cs.sfu.ca>, alspach@cs.sfu.ca (Brian Alspach)
says:
>I am amused by all the pre-Walsh optimism oozing forth from the Cardinal
>supporters. How long will it take before it is realized that California
>won by hiring Keith Gilbertson. Gilbertson will both out-coach and
>out-recruit Walsh.

     It's not really pre-Walsh optimism (although that's certainly what the
athletic department is playing up to increase revenues).  Stanford's a very,
very solid team with or without Walsh, who's inheriting a system from a
great coach he taught the system to in the first place... It's hard to deny
that Stanford both had a terrific season last year *and* looks even better
this year, so I don't think a bit of optimism's out of place.  One big win
over Washington could *easily* put us in the Rose Bowl in the next couple of
years.  Had Stanford upset Washington last year - we weren't even close -
it would have been the Cardinal playing Michigan on New Year's Day instead
of the Huskies.  And that was *last* year... We've improved bunches.
     Your opinion's your opinion on who'll be the better coach, but I am
curious where you got the idea that Gilbertson will outrecruit Walsh.  Walsh
was a late development last year and it still had a very significant effect
on recruiting...

Brett
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@purcell.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:53:45 GMT

In article <Bt1CHC.ADr@acsu.buffalo.edu> v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.020042.9635@news.nd.edu>, pszymans@bronte.helios.nd.edu (peter szymanski) writes...
>
>  < stuff deleted >
>
>A little history for you:  Syracuse has a better record over the past five
>years than Washington does, 46-12-3 to 43-15-1.  I'd say that you should
>be questioning if *Washington* is a team of the caliber of *Syracuse*, not
>the other way around.

Hey bud, wake up and smell the coffee.  Syracuse could definitely beat
Washington in Basketball and even Lacross, but not football.  But I 
can understand your misguided admiration for the mighty Orangemen.  I'm
originally from Rochester, NY and I grew up hearing so much about the
Orangemen that I got really sick of them ... perhaps too much snow up there
in Buffalo has clouded your judgement :) :)



>I do agree that none of these teams are of the caliber that the mighty Canes
>should be playing, but the NFL refuses to schedule them, thus they are left
>to play such panty-waist, nancy-boy teams as ND.  Jesus, what does Miami have
>to do to please you:  it plays five bowl teams from last year (for comparison
>purposes, Washington plays three, FSU plays six, and ND plays four), four of
>them on the road:  should I start questioning ND's and Washington's schedules
>because they aren't as impressive as Miami's?
>

Gee, if Miami considers ND to be a bunch of panty waists, then why were
they crying so much when the Irish didn't renew the series with them. 


As for the mightly Canes playing some NFL teams ... I think you've been
putting a little too much sugar on your cornflakes at breakfast.  Let's
face it, the Canes are good, but the worst NFL team would still kick
their butts.


But time will tell, if Miami can finish their "grueling" schedule with
a fairly respectable record, they might get the privilege to play 
the Irish in the Fiesta Bowl ... that is, if they decide to leave
the comfy confines of the Orange Bowl to play a real team on Jan. 1st.
:)		:)				:)

	- Rob