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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Meat Beat in concert
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:44:15 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Coventry University

In article <1992Nov16.225653.3983@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>>Orbital: Radiccio
>>Internal: LIECD1 869869.2
>>1   5   11:10 Halcyon
>>2   5   06:25 The Naked and The Dead
>>3   4   07:13 Sunday
>
>The US release of the Halcyon single is available on CD5 now, I paid
>$7 for:
>
>FFRR: 162 350 009-2
>1	11:05 Halcyon
>2	 6:23 The Naked and the Dead
>3	11:51 The Naked and the Dub
>4	 7:10 Sunday
>5	 3:15 Chime (Radio Edit)
>
>
>Comments I've heard rate the Naked and the Dub much higher than
>The Naked and the Dead, so I'd say this version is preferable to
>the (apparently?) import that Pete listed.

guru sez:
	that's right Pete (A) has the UK version (check the Internal Records
	catalogue number). Looks like FFRR still handle the US distribution
	of Orbital, then.

	So far all the real discussion has been about whether or not it's
	a bad bit of tribal house, not whether or not it's any good (sigh).

-- 
      /~~~) /   / /~~~) /   /   
     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:08:54 -0500 
From: Mark Lawrence Storch <mscc+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Any Neubauten lyrics?


	Does anybody have lyrics for "Haus der Luge"?  I've seen people posting
SkinnyPuppy and Ministry stuff all over the place and I was just
wondering.

-Mark Storch
mscc@andrew.cmu.edu
From: ballerup@diku.dk (Per Goetterup)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: FLA's "The Blade"
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:15:13 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Well, the remixes might not be the best that's ever happened, but the
other tracks, especially "Reanimate", are great!

Just my humble opinion!

	Rage on...

		Per.


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From: nc313060@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: I should have looked harder(NIN's CD-5)
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:19:22 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Nov5.222354.4329@spcvxb.spc.edu>, 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>> 
>> Well, as I discovered when my puppy decided to chew on the digipack, there was
>> a CD-3 inside of a flap with the extra two songs. The person I had bought the
>> Stephani Nichelle 
> 
> 
> Maybe you should have allowed the puppy to chew on the CD, and mess it up.  
> Then when you played it, with all the scratches and cracks on the CD, it might 
> have made NIN sound a bit interesting.  

The CD wasn't ruined!! He chewed on the center where the 
CD-5 goes, but at the time, in was in the CD player. After
listening to the CD again, I like the words, but the dis-
tortion drives me crazy. My favourite song is still "Happiness
in Slavery".

By the way, I bought Madonna's new CD, Erotica, and I happen
to like it alot - of you like deep house. My friend, Gary, who
is Madonna crazy, bought the book "Sex". It was interesting, nothing
to go gooie over.

I also broke down and bought a CD by Al B. Sure.

I explained the reason for my post about top 40 to someone who sent me mail.
I could explain it again, but I have a class in 10 minutes.

If you feel like it, contact me, and I will supply you with a transcript.

Stephani Nichelle

P.S. since this is a small school, we all have numbers for names. 

Oh no! I forgot my name again.............
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
Date: 19 Nov 1992 09:51:58 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz


>In article <1992Nov17.223251.15469@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>>In article <83835@ut-emx.uucp> alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu writes:
>
>[Stuff about whether or not Al's a drug-fiend deleted]
>
>>
>>I did read he was trying to restrict himself to drinking.  Good luck.
>>

Maybe the world would become a better place if everyone on rmi
smoked pot....

--
Red

In the STATES they've set up a deprogramming centre where you can take
your derranged punk child or metal kid. And how you deal with it when
they start getting posters or acting strange. If you start listening
to this music they've got centres where they take you to get deprogrammed.
That'll happen in New Zealand you know.

Brett (skinhead) Toxic Avengers, New Plymouth.
From Bill Paynes book - Staunch
From: md@theory.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Crumb's 4'33"
Keywords: Crumb's 4'33"
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:13:02 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

In article <By1Cys.K7u@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>In article <malcolm.722281007@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>>sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>>>> I propose rec.music.silence. Either we can post endlessly about Crumb's
>>>>4'33" or just not post there at all. 
>>
>>>Crumb's 4'33" ?
>>
>>>Is this some sort of variant on Cage's piece by the same title,
>>>or just an error?
>>
>>Actually, it's a little known fact that R.Crumb, the famous underground
>>comix artist of the 60's, had a brilliant career as a young composer. It
>>was really Crumb who came up with the idea of 4'33" shortly after his 
>>Zen" comic book that contained only blank pages. Crumb never recorded
>>or performed his version, and he claims that Cage ripped off the idea. 
>>Legend has it that Cage and Crumb used to hang out together eating 
>>mushrooms and drinking. Supposedly one night Crumb got shitfaced and 
>>showed Cage his score for 4'33", and a week later Cage presented it as 
>>his own piece. Crumb was crushed, and he quit composing music and focused 
>>entirely on his art, except for occasional weekend jams with friends and 
>>a one-shot lp he recorded years later.  
>>
>>  - malcolm@wrs.com 
>> 
>
>One thing you must give him credit for, though, is the fact that
>he was able to memorize the entire score from one gleaning of 
>R. Crumb's manuscript.  It is a rather impressive feat, if not 
>artistic.
>
>John "Photographic Memory" Cage
>
>Matthew Neill Sharp
>matthew@symphony.cc.PERDOO.edu  

One small detail being left out here, that R. and John might never have met
if G. (george, R.'s big brother) hadn't introduced the two...that's the
story I've heard.  In fact, Bob, TO THIS DAY, still copies out all of
big brother George's scores...thats why they look so cool.

Sincerly,

Michael DeMurga
From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: KMFDM
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:28:31 GMT
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center

In article <1992Nov23.150302.27545@wam.umd.edu> mag@wam.umd.edu (Spoony G) writes:
>>What does KMFDM stand for...if it's an acronym.
>
>I believe it's "Kill Mother Fucking Depeche Mode" if I'm not mistaken....

Oh Christ, here we go again!
From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: News on RMI Cd?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:58:30 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Just wondering what this weeks saga is in the mess to get that out?

Any chance it'll be here before Dec 2nd or 3rd?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Theory about rec.mus.ind
Organization: Charnel House
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:56:14 GMT

cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access) writes:
: In article <1dm7e3INNgjk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose) writes:
:
: Stop talking shite child.
: 
: Elitists- dont you just love them!

Almost as much as I love morons who include an entire posting to
add their supposedly-clever one line at the bottom.  Sigh.


<====================================================================>
   Mason Jones               Charnel House Productions
   mason@netcom.com          P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco, CA
                             94117-0277    Phone/fax (415) 255-8554
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: REVIEW: Nurse With Wound, "Thunder Perfect Mind"
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:31:14 GMT

Late in the week before last, I ordered both "Thunder Perfect Mind"
albums (Current 93 and Nurse With Wound); they came in early last week.

My only previous exposure to Nurse With Wound is "The Sylvie and Babs
Hi-Fi Companion".

There are two tracks on NWW's "Thunder Perfect Mind":  "Cold" and
"Colder Still".

"Cold" is an interesting, mechanically pulsing piece, about 22
minutes.  There's about a 300bpm pulse going the whole time.  This
piece seems to me like Steve Stapleton, Frank Zappa and ClockDVA all
got locked up in a room (padded cell?) together and came up with
"Cold".  "Cold" doesn't have the sense of humor that Frank (and Sylvie
and Babs, which reminds me of "Lumpy Gravy") has, though; It's just
"Cold".  Really good.

"Colder Still" is a more psychological piece; it has more to do with
the Current 93 "Thunder Perfect Mind" than "Cold" does (and it refers
to the C93, too).  Really well constructed; one tends to pay attention
to it and look up 30 minutes later, thinking it had been only a moment.

You should buy this album (and its Current 93 companion).

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: PTV for sale
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:28:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: bradley.1992Nov18.162800.1774
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University


Notable price discrepancies:

You want $35 for the J'Taime/Supermale 12"
I have a copy in very good condition I bought
in San Francisco for $17.50.

Sounds like 100% markup to me.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
 I fear we have not gotten rid of "God" because we still have faith in grammar
From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:23:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.41208
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov17.223251.15469@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>In article <83835@ut-emx.uucp> alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu writes:

[Stuff about whether or not Al's a drug-fiend deleted]

>
>I did read he was trying to restrict himself to drinking.  Good luck.
>

Reminds me of Lou Reed's annotations to two of his songs in the book
_Between Thought & Expression_:

"My Last Shot" - "I tried to kick heroin by drinking more alcohol."

"Under the Bottle" - "...it didn't work."

:-)
   Reality
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: malexan@a.cs.okstate.edu (ALEXANDER MICHAEL)
Subject: Pigface
Summary: In Tulsa Dec. 13
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 07:26:55 GMT
Keywords: Pigface

Pigface will be in Tulsa on Dec. 13 at Ikon (#4th and Peoria).  
Tickets are $10 in advance, $12 at the door.
Tickets on sale at Starship, Mohawk, Shadowplay, and Rainbow.

Nivek Ogre, En Esch, Martin Atkins, William Tucker allegedly featured.

				--msa
-- 
Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true.  Jerry Lee Lewis was the Devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.  All of a sudden,
I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing that I could
do was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry Lyrics
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

In article 14065@ucsu.Colorado.EDU, scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND) writes:
>Two things with So what.
>1st line:  Scum sucking definitive debauch...anal fuckfest thrill olympics....
>Later in the song:  A screaming headache of the promised fate(or maybe 'that')

Er, no. I thought it went

"A screaming headache on the brow of the state,
 Killing time is appropriate"


---
The harvest of life, the harvest of death	<-- bart@muppet.bt.co.uk -->
Resumes it's course each day			<--     Tim Fulcher      -->
It comes as if by schedule			<--  tel : 0473 648220   -->	
The harvester lives, with arms that are bent	
And toes that cross, and knees that jerk	<-- British Telecom Labs -->
And necks like swans that seem to turn
As if inclined to gasp for breath...	- Quicklime Girl - , BOC
From: kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Alan Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,
Subject: LEATHERSTRIP-KLUTE-PSYCHOPOMPS-and other ZOTH OMMOG GOODIES
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Distribution: world
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Keywords: 


If you are into INDUSTRIAL/HARDCORE TECHNO scene, then join this club!


This is the U.S. Department for the Danish Industrial bands "Leaether
Strip" & "Klute".  For info, contact, stickers and membership in the
U.S. Fan Base Techno Club please send: 1 or more stamps, or 1 or more
IRC's if you are outside the U.S. (more postage=more stuff mailed)

G.A.W.M.U.S. Leaether Strip/Klute U.S. Fan Base
c/o Ric Laciak
P.O. Box 353 Suite MLH 220
Milwaukee, WI  53201  USA
laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu

Info on Psychopomps and Zoth Ommog Records is here as well.
Questions/Comments/Contacts welcome.  >>May your ears bleed!<<

-Ric (Leader of G.A.W.M.U.S.)
e-mail:   
laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu

laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: malexan@a.cs.okstate.edu (ALEXANDER MICHAEL)
Subject: Re: Pigface
Summary: Oops.
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 07:37:37 GMT
Keywords: Pigface

That adress should be 34th and Peoria.  Sorry about that.

				--msa

-- 
Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true.  Jerry Lee Lewis was the Devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.  All of a sudden,
I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing that I could
do was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long.
From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What ever happened to...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:19:52 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

dbl50872@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Brian Lake) writes:

>        Crunch-o-Matic

Found a 12" at Goodwill for 0.25 cents.

>        Apple // software

In a box in the garage



__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ xorcist@cyberden.uucp ]
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: malexan@a.cs.okstate.edu (ALEXANDER MICHAEL)
Subject: Re: Al, Commercial manipulation, and attitude
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:35:17 GMT
Keywords: Al manipulation indutrial music pighead

Subject: Random babblings         

        Excerpts from "So What" from "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste"  
  
...comes from the home, a home where the parents are too busy to treat 
their children with respect...
 
Some people think newspapers exaggerate juvenile crime.  All that is 
confined mostly to large cities; juvenile delinquency is on the rise...
 
Adults create the world children live in.  Juvenile delinquency is
always rooted in adult delinquency.  
...and in this process, parents play the key role...
 
... when children grow up among adults who refuse to recognize anything 
that is fine and good, or worthy of respect.'
 
        Excerpts from "Test" from "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste"   
 
Wake up, make up your mind
Seek the knowledge that you will find
Be your own person
 
...better your damn situation
But how can you better your situation
If you have no occupation?
 
...see how many different schools you can enter 
I'll tell you in the pit, that life's a bitch
The world's all upset
I'll tell you why it's stuck in a ditch
You own the key to the damned city
Well it's a damn pity
 
        Forgive me if I'm just in a fit of delerium from staring at VAX 
assembler code for a bit to long, but am I really seeing Alain a.k.a Alien
Jourgensen telling people to get a job?  To take care of their kids?  To 
go to school and keep off the streets?  This sounds almost like a part of
the Republican Party platform.  Uncle Al endorsing <ugh, gasp> family  
values?!?  From "I'm gonna rip his yead off, I'm gonna shit down his neck"
(Stigmata, from The Land of Rape and Honey) to "Get a job, get married and 
settle down" in the span of just over one year?  Some food for thought, no?  
Maybe he's really a plant--probably placed in the record industry by the 
CIA under Reagan.  I'll bet the real Al is presently somewhere keeping 
Jimmy Hoffa company.
 
                                --msa

(And if you take this seriously and flame me, I'll bloody well mail you the
 script to Monty Python's The Holy Grail.  After running it through banner.)
-- 
Program Naked!
From: vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Where is My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:00:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bxx31L.L1L
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Nov18.072723.16113@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, rquazi@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Rishad Quazi) writes:
|> In article <529@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca> idbremne@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (idbremne) writes:
|> >I have not seen Hide Nor Hair Of tkk on this net.

|> >I would like to see more off "Hey check out some of this..."
|> 
|> 
|> Well, I'll bite. I hadn't really heard a whole lot about this band (I'm a
|> newbie to the industrial scene) before I heard two cuts from the 'Cool World'
|> soundtrack: 'Sex on Wheelz' and 'Her Sassy Kiss'. Both are great I think,
|> and I'd love to hear more of and about this band.
|> 		- Rishad.

Must gets from TKK:

1) _Kooler than Jesus_ cd single (has their first 3 12"'s on it)
	has classics Kooler than Jesus, Devil Bunnies, 
		Nervous Xians, The Devil Does Drugs, and 
		a couple of other good ones

2) _Confessions of a Knife_
	Daisy Chain 4 Satan, Days of Swine and Roses,
	Ride the Mindway, and a live Do You Fear <originally on 
	_I see Good Spirits, I see bad Spirits_>, as well
	as many others. About 60 minutes of good tkk

3) _Cuz it's hot_ single
	Title track plus Daisy Chain 4 Satan (another version)


TKK is fun music. More fun than almost any other band. And it's
very good dance industrial in general. I think their older stuff
is better than the _Sexplosion_ stuff, but even that's pretty
good (or at least some songs on it). 


====================================================================
Vijay Pai        | "You know I must be crazy" 
Rice University  | 	-- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Houston, TX      |  	   "The Devil Does Drugs"
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Spoony G)
Subject: Re: Ministry discog......HELP
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:04:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.005112.27209@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> tpb2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (TONY PATRICK BLAKE) writes:
>
>    I have the following Ministry albums, and would like to know what I am
>Missing.
>
>    With Sympathy
>    Twitch
>    Land....
>    ....Live
>    Mind....
>    Psalm 69
>
     You're missing the collection of early (81-84) 12" singles,
     which includes "Halloween" and "Cold Life" among others.
 
     I like most of Ministry, but I'm not too happy with Psalm 69,
     it's just too thrashy...i prefer Land of Rape & Honey...
     actually, i prefer Skinny Puppy...but that's another 
     conversation entirely.

     MAG


B
B
including "Every Day is Halloween" and "Cold Life."  
>    Also are there any videos besides "....Live"
>
>    By the way I like all of Al's stuff, even With Sympathy.
>
>    Tony Blake
>    Lehigh University
>
>    
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:32:51 GMT

In article <83835@ut-emx.uucp> alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu writes:
>Arne Claassen writes
>> 
>> Everyone keeps saying that Uncle Al does drugs... Now i do seem to r
>> remember an article in which he referred to taking a lot of acid, taking
>> old albums (disco and stuff) and playing them at above 70 rpm to get
>> inspiration.
>> 
>> Couple of days ago, tho, a friend of mine jumped all over my case,
>> claiming that Al Jourgenson is totally contra drugs, although he has a
>> thing for hard liquor.
>> 
>> Now, what is the truth (among all the rumors)? Does Al do drugs, or is  
>just
>> that it's expected of a person of his genre to do drugs, so it has been
>> ascribed to him?
>> 
>> -FaithHealer
>> claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu
>
>IMHO, he probably does drugs. I have heard stories (and yes, they are just  
>hear-say) about Ministry tours from members and friends of the "Skatenigs"  
>(a local Austin band begun by mandate from Jourgensen and supported by  
>him) that deal with lots and lots of drugs. Lets just say that I wouldn't  
>get on the bus with them if they paid me. 

Al stated once that he had never performed live w/o being high on acid
UNTIL the skatenig's tour.  Saying Al is anti-drug is pretty silly.

I did read he was trying to restrict himself to drinking.  Good luck.

Why does anyone care in the first place?  



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		         Its in my brain now
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