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From: kulki@cs.toronto.edu (Dattatraya Kulkarni)
Subject: Re: Kannada Script software for MSDOS-PC. Free
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:03:41 GMT

Is there anything similar available on Unix systems?

--kulkarni
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From: nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh)
Subject: 75th Yr of National High School
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:30:38 MST
Organization: CSS Research Group


Well, somebody previously had posted that National High
School Basavanagudi was going to celebrate the platinum
jubilee this year. I got a letter from some of my young
friends in bangalore...who are now in National College
( where else after NHS? ) and I believe that 
President Shankar Dayal Sharma is going to come for
the celebrations. They said that the festivities were in
full zoom out there. A proud time for NHS.

I was there from 80-83 E section. Maybe somebody else out
there was also at NHS at that time? Anyway, I still have
lot of pleasant memories from those 3 years of my schooling
days...the period when we grew from Blue shorts to white
pants :), when we used to fight for 2 X 4 feet TT table
during the lunch time, at least 10 teams playing tennis ball
cricket in 45 mins of lunch time, those yellow sweets(VV Bakery? ) 
for Independence day, Raju master making us sing in the class,
HGR skipping the class on reproduction in 10th Std ( were we that
notorious? :) ), and of course...."Arjuna ooovacha...aaavam sathatha
yukthaye...." by KTS every morning, prompting some boring invited guests
to complete their speech by continuous clapping..:),  and many more..

My favourite teacher was SRP....she made me like Geography.
Is she still there? Hopefully, I can meet them all whenever I make
it back to Bangalore....

Nanda kumar.

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Department of Computer Science,                      GO JAZZ !
University of Utah, 				  
Salt Lake City.   				 
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From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: Re: Genesee Cream Ale
Keywords: Screamers
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 09:11:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.020523.26387@nmsu.edu> dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman) writes:
>Just thought I'd see what kind of memories that subject brings up ...
>
>--
>   Dan Tasman                                       dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu
>                                                     molson@rever.nmsu.edu
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>    Indeed, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all."
>                                                                Ogden Nash

They don't call 'em Genny Screamers for nothing!

-- 
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Menlo Park, CA
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From: strzelin@sscdaq.phy.bnl.gov (Bob Strzelinski)
Subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY!!!
Organization: Physics Dept., Brookhaven National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:15:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.163734.8962@athena.mit.edu>, rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani) writes:
|> 
|> There's really no place like New York City. I moved to Boston this September,
|> and dicovered that there's _no_ night life here. The trains and busses stop
|> running at 1 am, and you have to be 21 to get into anything... I want to
|> move back!
|> 
|> Rajiv


Well, that one was certainly posted to the wrong newsgroup!!!


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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: Weird Newsgroup
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:52:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Isn't Buffalo considered Western New York ?

That's a good question for this group. What is Up-State?
From: sknezevi@phakt.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Weird Newsgroup
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:29:42 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec16.090847.1694@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jpk1521@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>I live in a very small town in upstate new york called Le Roy, NY and every
>time there is a buffalo bills' home game going to happen... I usally see
>a heavy traffic on the NY state thruway and people really pack it up...
>
>one nice thing about this... PEOPLE DO CAR-Pool with each other and go 
>to the buffalo games.... Usally mostly from rochester area and Syracuse area
>
>Joel
>
>Joel Krigsman
>JPK1521@vaxa.rit.edu

>P.S. I grew up in NYC and I do see this upstate NY is a completly diffrent
>between NYC and here...

OH MY GOD!  You grew up in LeRoy!  That place is as big as my pinky!  Sorry
I just have a long history of making jokes about LeRoy from my elementary
school days.   That place is like a railroad track and a building...that's
the whole town.  I'm sorry, I've just made too many jokes.

I agree that there's a REALLY big difference in Upstate new york and 
New York city.  the people are so violently different.  I love upstate and
I think the city, except for Brooklyn, is kinda dumb.

AND I HATE WHEN I SAY I'M FROM NEW YORK AND PEOPLE ASK "OH, WHAT'S IT LIKE
LIVING IN THE BIG APPLE?"  

DAMMIT.....I'M FROM UPSTATE!!!!!  BUFFALO!!!!!!

Sorry, a little stress....

Steve Knezevich

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From: lee@wrc.xerox.com (Lee Moore)
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Reply-To: lee@wrc.xerox.com (Lee Moore)
Organization: Xerox
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:04:08 GMT

Actually, the newsgroup for 

In article <4796@moscom.com>, de@moscom.com (David Esan) writes:
|>In article <1992Dec15.161325.24855@spectrum.xerox.com>
eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com writes:
|>>Can anyone from the Rochester area help with a list of good
restaurants in the area?
|>
|>There is a group devoted to food in wny, called (ta da!) wny.yum.yum.

Actually the name of the group is:
	wny.yumyum

wny = Western New York (Rochester, Buffalo, and anybody else that wants
to listen)
             

Lee Moore -- Webster Research Center, Xerox Corp. --
Voice: +1 (716) 422 2496
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From: an3149@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Great New Group
X-Anonymously-To: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:26:48 GMT

What a  great group, of coarse only an upstater could
love a group like this. Any one out there ever hear of
a Place called Dolgeville? It's about fourty five miles
outside of albany. Home of the adirondack bats etc.

Daryl
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From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:07:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division

In article <1992Dec17.010553.11669@ee.rochester.edu> jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward) writes:
>In article <marnie.724538947@ajax> marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:
>>
>>Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.
>>
>>> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?
>>
>>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?
>>
>Sure, I'm from Floyd.  Have you heard of that?
>

I'll call and raise you Gallupville.  Have you heard of that?
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From: ccw@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (wood,christopher)
Subject: Re: Upstate
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:13:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.195751.22416@nosc.mil> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:
>I say continue the major boundary between NY and Pennsylvania all
>the way to the Atlantic and give that triangular piece left from the
>re-bordering to New Jersey... they deserve it...

Hear, hear!!! I'm only "temporarily" a New Jerseyian; I grew up in
Greece, NY, on the northwest side of Rochester.  Loved it there, not
thrilled with things here.  New Jersey has always been the land between
the deleware and the hudson; make it so...

>Walt K.

>	- a militant upstater, and proud of it...

Chris


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From: johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: Re: Albany **UNION COLLEGE** area
Followup-To: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:54:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.195448.22493@news.columbia.edu>,
cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi) wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Anyone here from the Albany area?  More specificaly, at or around Union
> College in Schenectady?  I transferred from there 3 yrs ago, and was wondering
> what was new up there....
> 
> 		Has the Nott Memorial fallen down yet?

Can't speak for Schenectady.  Troy, though, HAS fallen down.  And it most
certainly can't get up.

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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute |     <insert FunQwote(tm) here>
Troy, New York, USA              |  
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From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: The Port City
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:20:17 GMT

In enumerating the various attractions in Oswego in a previous article the item
*I* consider *most* significant was omitted...  Not just *one*, nor even *two*
but *THREE* of the nation's worst-run nuclear powerplants (obviously, one or
more of these serve as prototype for C.M. Burns' plant on _The Simpsons_)...
These are 1) Nine Mile Point Unit 1, 2) Nine Mile Point Unit 2 (both
owned/operated by Niagara-Mohawk Power Corp) and 3) Fitzpatrick (owned/operated
by The New York State Power Authority (PASNY))...  Providing plot-lines to _The
Simpsons_ is a definate plus for the Oswego-area, based upon the popularity of
_The Simpsons_.

Other than bitching about the ill-run Nukes, this is *supposed* to be a
humorous article...

Walt K.
- militant Roman
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From: kasprj@operators.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: about alt.culture.long-island
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:58:05 GMT

In article <RENS.92Dec17114022@lorax.shearson.com>, rens@lorax.shearson.com (Rens Troost) writes:
|> 
|> It's _really_ nice out on the north fork, though. I think it redeems
|> the place, though the rest of it is a wasteland.
 
 Not so much a wasteland as cancerous suburbia, actually. Didn't anyone 
tell the folks who laid out Nassau County that you're supposed to keep 
some woods between the housing developments? 

|> What's wrong with the Island is not that it is like New York...It's like
|> Orange County, CA - a soulless suburb filled with narrowminded bigots.
 
 Whoa there. Seeing that a large number of my good friends live or grew up
on Long Island, I must say that a suburban setting does not always breed a
stereotypical suburban mindset. I've seen worse narrowmindedness coming out
of the rural upstate towns (and the rural Connecticut towns where I grew up
myself). 
 
 But I will also admit that some Long Islanders tend to be startlingly 
insular, to the extent that they seem to think that the world consists of
Long Island and New York City. They've vaguely heard of New Jersey, and 
some of them get a brief exposure to upstate when they go to college at
SUNY Albany or SUNY Binghamton, but as soon as they get their degree, 
most of them scurry back to the safety of their familiar suburban sprawl.
It's sort of the East Coast equivalent of the Val-type.
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From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Subject: Culture in Upstate NY?
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:51:48 GMT


As one who grew up in Syracuse NY I can attest that there is no
culture there.  Oh sure, there's the Everson museum designed by I.M.
Pei, the Civic Center, the Syracuse Symphony, Syracuse Stage, Salt
City Players, Pompeian Players, Syracuse University, the Carrier Dome
and of course, the annual Reggata on Onondaga lake.  But other than
that?  NOTHING!  I should know.  I been there.

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From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Albany **UNION COLLEGE** area
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:54:30 GMT
	<johnsh-151292175220@mustang.stu.rpi.edu>
	<1992Dec16.014531.6460@news.columbia.edu>
	<johnsh-161292021801@mustang.stu.rpi.edu>
Followup-To: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: johnsh@rpi.edu's message of 16 Dec 92 07:26:19 GMT


In article <johnsh-161292021801@mustang.stu.rpi.edu> johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:

   In article <1992Dec16.014531.6460@news.columbia.edu>,
   cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi) wrote:
   >  
   > Hugh, you're from RPI?  Hmm, at union we had a hard time figuiring what RPI
   > stood for....I thik we finally settled for Rats & Pigs Inc. or Rotten People
   > Institutionalized....got any for UNION?

   Yah, I believe the latest one was The School Whose Hockey Team's Ass We
   Kicked Last Weekend.

And here I thought Union was The School Whose Hockey Team Skates Like
They've Got Refrigerators Strapped To Their Backs.

   Oh, wait! That doesn't spell UNION.  Well, that's okay.  Like you said,
   Union people have a hard time figuring things out.

Oooooh, cold *grin*

I'll tell you, as an Upstate expatriate living in Boston, one of the best
times I had in a long time was at last year's ECAC playoffs at Boston 
Garden.  The final four were Clarkson, RPI, Cornell, and St. Lawrence.  
My brother (Cornell alum) and his friend Dennis (St. Lawrence alum) 
both came up for the event, and the three of us got to see some of the
best hockey I've seen in a long time.  The playoff games were great, 
and it was so nice to know that I'd be happy whoever won (the Saints, 
in case you're wondering).  

I don't believe the playoffs are in Boston this year, but I'd love to
know where they are so I could go if it's possible.  Does anyone know
the details of the ECAC playoffs, or any time when any ECAC teams might
be playing in the Boston area?

Thanks,

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From: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Subject: Re: Genesee Cream Ale
Reply-To: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:00:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.020523.26387@nmsu.edu> dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman) writes:
> Just thought I'd see what kind of memories that subject brings up ...
> 
> --
>    Dan Tasman                                       dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu
>                                                      molson@rever.nmsu.edu

G' Cream Ale, what memories it brings to mind. In college there was no
need for laxatives or high fiber diets if you drank 'Cream Ale. Went down
smooth, came out smooth! Always the right price though for us poor college
students. The funniest thing is that if a bar didn't have Cream Ale, we
use to order Rolling Rock, which then was considered the ultimate piss
water, now it's a status quo beer. My how times change. 

I've noticed that a few liquor stores in Mass carry Cream Ale but I have
not been brave enough to buy it. Actually it was a pretty good beer for the
price.



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From: obrien@acf3.nyu.edu (Your Worst Nightmare)
Subject: Just a little piece of trivia...
Organization: DON'T MESS WITH THE O(BRIEN), Inc. <New York University>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:36:16 GMT

Did you know that if you travelled from Battery Park on Broadway,
going uptown (though it runs downtown after 59th Street, Columbus
Circle), you could travel all the way to Albany without making one
turn?

:)

-Julia
New Yorker for last 10 years, living in Astoria, Queens.
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From: M22280@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Upstate
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:32:47 GMT

In article <f0k291f@rpi.edu>
kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:
 
>In article <67k29rc@rpi.edu>, ernesm@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matthew W Ernest) writes:
>|>
>|> Well... where I come from, Upstate is anything that is completely north os
>|> Pennsylvania, which puts Kingston Downstate. Northern New York is above the
>|> Thruway, between the Capital Distict and Syracuse, and The North Country
>|> starts variously at Watertown, KIngston Ont., or other places.
>
> Hm, around here the North Country is everything between Adirondack Park
>and the Canadian border. (Beyond that is, of course, the Great White North.)
>Don't forget the Southern Tier, which seems to be everything west of
>Amsterdam and south of the Erie Canal.
 
Yea, that's what my fiance' tells me...We talk to people who are from NY and
they say that they are from upstate, like Buffalo, and he about dies...He's
from UPSTATE NY-Hogansburg/Ft. Covington/Massena area.  He tells me stories of
going to Canada (Montreal and Toronto) to go shopping because they were the
closest big cities.  As he says, he had to go north to be in the South...
 
What's the phrase his Dad likes...Something like
   "New York City would never amount to much because it was too far
    from Syranac (Sp?) Lake..."
 
(I'm just a Southerner from VA...)
 
Linda
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From: ernesm@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matthew W Ernest)
Subject: Re: Upstate
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:02:13 GMT

kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:


> So where does "upstate" begin? My friends from Long Island seem to think
>that anything north of Central Park Lake is upstate. I've always regarded
>the Albany/Troy/Schenectady area as upstate, but people from Plattsburgh 
>tend to laugh at me when I say that.

Well... where I come from, Upstate is anything that is completely north os Pennsylvania, which puts Kingston Downstate. Northern New York is above the Thruway, between the Capital Distict and Syracuse, and The North Country starts variously at Watertown, KIngston Ont., or other places.
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From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
Subject: Re: Niteclubs
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:47:31 GMT

tringg@rs6405.ecs.rpi.edu (George Joseph Tringali) writes:

>  I'm originally from Boston and used to going
>to niteclubs.  I'm living in Troy, NY 
>(Albany area) and I am looking for 
>___ANY___ place where I can mosh (slam-dance)
>at a club.   I'd appreciate any information,
>but try to include at least two clubs.

About the only place you could approach the concept would be
the QE2, on Central Ave in Albany, or maybe Bogie's, up Washington
ave, also in Albany.  Sometimes the Troy Youth Center (or something
like that) has speed/core bands, rather nationally known ones, but
this is rare; twice a semester or less.  You might call up a WRPI
dj that's playing something fast and ask them.

Arlen
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From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: Hey WCMF fans! was: Re: Rochester brewpubs 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 09:19:28 GMT

In article <19DEC199216545096@b56vxg.kodak.com> lewis@kodak.com writes:
>In article <37958@cbmvax.commodore.com>, kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman) writes...
>>Does anyone know if there are any brewpubs in the Rochester area? I'll be home
>>there for the holidays and I'm looking for any new places to quench a thirst.
>>Any suggestions for favorite watering holes new or old would be appreciated
>>also.
>> 
>The Rochester BrewPub, on Jefferson Road , just east of the Malls...
>
>Ken Lewis

Ya, the BrewPub. It was inside of a hotel, and had a lovely peanut shells
on the floor decor!

How about Shnozz's for live music, in the Village Gate (or South Gate?).
Also Jeremiah's on Monroe and the Elmwood Inn near Strong Hospital of
the UofR. Both of these places had really decent wings (almost worthy of
the name Buffalo-style, not those sickly Roch.-style wings)! 
Then there was the Distillery on Mt. Hope.  What's the name of the trendy
happy hour place on University (next to Ross Electric)?
And the Red Creek Inn near R.I.T. (We tried to get Weird Al Yankovic
to play 2 on 2 volleyball there once).

Hey Rochester WCMF fans, nice work on the Bills billboard in Miami
(the feesh are squeeshed). Do you remember B.J. Shea? He's now one
of the morning guys on a new format station here in the San Francisco-
San Jose-Santa Cruz area (was Double 99). He's a nut, (but a likeable nut)
and they let him expound his often strange opinions ad nauseam in the morning.
What did he do on WCMF? I can't quite remember it.
Also, does Tyrone Shoelaces, official waterboy for the Buffallo Bills,
still do game reports for Bro. Wease?
-- 
Greg Sroka
Menlo Park, CA
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