From: Les_Jenkins@lppl.mi.org (Les Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Distribution: world
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:51:07 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

In a message dated Fri 28 Aug 92  3:21, hribnak@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Jim
Hribnak) wrote:

 JH> Since I am a CNet owner..  and have been since later 1984..  I know
Ken
 JH> doesnt have an InterNet account (at least to my knownledge he doesnt) 
 JH> Anyways  Why the harrassment against Cnet?  It shouldnt be upto ANYONE
 JH> to accuse Ken of ripping code and installing it on his BBS..  He has
 JH> many features I have YET to see on anyother BBS system..  so where did
 JH> he get the code for that,..  I guess he had to write it himself!!!! 
 JH> Also if he has ripped code.. then its up to the individuals who he has
 JH> ripped from (if any) to take action.. if they are not going to take
 JH> action they wby b!tch and complain about it!!  

Lawsuits are expensive propositions when the person you are sueing is close
to home. If they are in another state it only gets worse. Not everyone whom
Ken has ripped off is a major corporation. At the very LEAST Ken should
have the balls to give due credit to those who have had their code used in
his program. It is considered not only immoral, but unethical to use
someone else's code without at least proper credit.

Even my own DOOR program mentions that it is not I who came up with it
originally. I took it over from some fellow who went by the handle Blackmar
and was originally calling it Blackmar's Dungeon. 


 JH> Just like when all Skyline users complained that CNet had Skypix
 JH> capabilites (useless as it is). Obviously Mike (Skyline Programmer)
 JH> didnt see fit to do anything, because SKYPIX is based on ANSI, and
 JH> anyone can implement it.. Can copy right something that isnt his in
the
 JH> 1st place..  anyways thats another story!!  Why waste band width with
 JH> this drivel!   Why not call 313-981-6150 (Ken's BBs) and leave him
mail
 JH> there..  I am glad I am not paying to read this crap..  But remember
 JH> there are people who do!!

Again, Mike couldn't afford to do anything. That doesn't mean he wasn't
ticked off about it. Word has it he was beside himself because Ken never
even asked if he could do it. Ken just went ahead and stole it. Mike was
pretty much willing to work with other people who were interested in it,
but that doesn't give Ken the right to just take it. Yes, Skypix was based
on ANSI, but that doesn't mean the changes he made didn't make it his own
to copyright. Go to an IBM and check out the literally hundreds of
different ANSI drivers for it. Each is slightly different and each is
copyrighted by a different company or individual and then try and use the
logic you used above. 

As for leaving Ken mail about it. You might as well be talking to a brick
wall. You'd get a better conversation from the wall...


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