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From: tg@utstat.uucp (Tom Glinos)
Subject: Looking for Large Capacity WORMS
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:09:55 GMT

I posted this request to another newsgroup a few days ago and didn't
get any responses, so. I'm looking for...

[1] Worm with 1 or 2 platters than can store many gigabytes/platter
[2] SCSI interface

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From: afv@uk.ac.cam.eng (Frans Volschenk)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: WD SCSI controller - help needed
Keywords: DW SCSI controller
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:17:49 GMT
Reply-To: afv@uk.ac.cam.eng
Organization: Dept of Engineering

Hi,

I have an (older) Western Digital SCSI controller - either
ATS, ALS, ALS,AST (something like that !), but unfortunately
no other info on the card.  I would like to use it with a WREN III
(92 MB) SCSI drive, and the system is an  386 with MS DOS 5.

When I stick it into the AT bus, the card BIOS displayed itself
as Ver 1.2 (C) 1986, and  then follows the lines like
"looking for target [ID|LUN] [0-6|0-1] ...."
then " No bootable ..etc found ".  The PC then boots
further after that.

On the card itself are the following
printed bits of information:

EPROM No: 62/000110/062
Other numbers on the card:
	61-000175-00x1
	175-32885
	09911

It has a standard 50-way Anthenol on the end, and the 50 pin
for internal use.

If I boot my system with DOS 5 AND the controller, no other commands
 seem to work ( i.e other programs) but when booted from DOS 4, the
computer & card seem not to be in conflict, so can I assume that
the BIOS is in conflict with DOS 5 ?

-----------------------------------------------
IF ANYONE has used this card, or may have ANY DRIVERS OR INFO
that can get me going, I would really appreciate it.
-----------------------------------------------

Thank you very much in advance,

	Frans Volschenk

	afv@uk.ac.cam.eng 
	afv@eng.cam.ac.uk  - for the others !
From: tarsa@elijah.mv.com (Greg Tarsa)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: SCSI terminator dips
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:20:29 GMT
Reply-To: tarsa@elijah.mv.com (Greg Tarsa)
Followup-To: tarsa@deceat.enet.dec.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Contract Software Services, Inc.


Let me warn you in advance: I am primarily a software engineer.  I have, in my professional career, managed to advance in hardware far enough to recognize various types of boards: CPU disk controllers, tape controllers, etc.

Now, I have some MD21 ESDI-SCSI cards and I need SCSI terminating resistor
packs for them.  All that I know about these paks is what I got from comparing two that I come across often.

     1)	the mfg symbol is "BI" underlined; the number is 8838 and the
	markings say "R220/330".  Other text on the pak: "898-5".

     2)	the mfg symbol is "B" (like a capital beta); the number is 8619 and
	the markings say "-221/331".  Other text on the pak: "4116R-003".


Questions:
   What is the technical definition of what these components are?

   Are they interchangeable?

   Where do I go to get some of these things and what do I ask for?

   Are they expensive?

   Can they be had mail-order?

Any light would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Greg

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From: paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: ADAPTEC 1542B and FUJITSU 2263-SA/WB
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:00:49 GMT
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd


Trying again with world distribution:


In <1992Apr3.030023.26603@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>rfarris@rfengr.com (Rick Farris) writes:

>>I just bought a new Fujitsu 2263SA disk drive.  It's a 3.5"
>>drive, 425 megabytes formatted, 12 ms access time, and a 5
>>year warranty.  About a thousand bucks.

>Is this really a 2263SA?  The Fujitsu 2263SA I have is a 300 MB
>5.25" half height drive.  Does it mount like a standard 3.5"
>drive?  I have a 525 MB drive on order, but it's been delayed
>because, supposedly, the mounting holes don't line up with the
>bracket.

The drive he's talking about is a 2623SA (just two digits transposed).
With regard to your 525MB drive, and indeed all high-capacity Fujitsu 
3.5" drives, make sure you have the screws for it: they do NOT take
standard m3 screws!

Paul
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From: rse@cs.arizona.edu (Robert S. Elder)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Future Domain and SyQuest
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:54:21 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

I am planning the purchace of an external SyQuest drive for my NeXTstation and
father's 386 ISA bus PC with an IDE HD.  The PC does not yet have a SCSI
controller.  I am thinking of purchacing a Future Domain controller because of
its price.  I would like to know if anyone has been succesful in using a Future
Domain controller with a SyQuest drive (most likely a generic mac drive).  Are
any drivers necessary(for MS-DOS?)  If so how much do they cost?  Does the card
come with an external connector for external devices?  If not how much does one
cost?  I may want to use a NeXT CD-ROM drive (Sony internals) with it in the
future, any drivers or extras necessary for that?

What is the phone # for Future Domain?

Thanks for any comments, suggestions, reccomendations or advice.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: shad04@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: SCSI cable pinout
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:12:16 GMT

In article <1356000008@igc.org> Corwin Nichols <corwin@igc.org> writes:
>Ehile there is a standard for the 50-pin end of a SCSI cable, the same
>can not be said of the 25 pin end.  Example: Future Domain and Apple
>each ship products with DB-25 SCSI connectors but the pinout is 
>different.  What DB25 do you need info on?

I can't speak for Mr. Brinich, but *I* would like some information on the
Future Domain DB25 connector.  I had assumed the 25 pin version was a
standard.  Right now my tape drive is connected to my internal hard disk 
with the 12" cable and sitting loose on the floppy drives in my open case.

What I'd like to do is put the tape drive in a box and use a DB25 to 50 pin
IDC cable to connect the drive to the rear Future Domain connector.  Which
brings up another question -- how does termination work in such a case?
The setup would look like this:

   --------               -------------            ---------------- 
  |  tape  |}===========[| controller  |}========{| internal drive |
   --------               -------------            ---------------- 

} 50 pin IDC connector
] 25 pin DB connector

Would I terminate the tape drive and the hard disk in a situation like this?
Or is a connection like this even recommended?

Thanks...

>>> Dan
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis)
Subject: Anyone Ever Adapt an SMD Hard Drive to a SCSI Interface?
Reply-To: sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis)
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept., Harris ESS, Melbourne, FL
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:18:33 GMT


	I am trying to adapt an SMD hard drive for use on my
AT clone via an Adaptec 5580 SCSI-SMD bridge board. This board should
allow me to use a SCSI host adapter to interface to the drive.
However I am meeting with no success thus far, due in large part to my
abysmal ignorance of both SCSI amd SMD interfaces. :-) I am very familiar
with MFM drives and controllers, but this is a whole 'nother ballgame I
am discovering...

	Anyone out there ever tried to do this? I would appreciate
any comments if you have, or you have information from someone who has.

	Before spending money on a better SCSI card, I am currently
trying to see if this arrangement will work using a cheap Seagate ST02
host adapter card in my AT. Do I need some kind of software driver to
manipulate the ST02? I have none. I cannot get the ST02 low level formatter
routine (entered via DEBUG g=C800:5) to even recognize that a drive is
connected. Seagate Tech Support was of precisely Zero help as soon as they
heard I was trying to use the ST02 with other than a Seagate SCSI hard
drive. They left me with the impression that the ST02 might not even
be capable of talking to anything else. Anyway, they essentially said to
get lost, refusing to answer any questions. If you know that the ST02
is useable with other SCSI devices, please tell me so, as well as any other
information you can offer on how I might learn to make it work.

	If you post a reply, please E-mail me your response as well since
my News feed runs 5 or 6 days behind.

	Thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: neese@adaptx1.UUCP (Roy Neese)
Subject: Re: w1542a (!) and 386-40 or 386-33
Organization: Adaptec Inc., Texas
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:24:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.080044.24293@pwcs.stpaul.gov> derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Derek E Terveer) writes:
> Yes, apparently i have a w1542a card and i thought for the longest time
> that it was actually a 1542a.  Sigh.  This is probably why it doesn't
> match the documentation that i have on it.  Anway, i am trying out the
> bus master test on a 386-40 (and also a 386-33) and it dies a horrible
> death at all dma speeds.  I thought that i heard somewhere that the
> 1542a card would not bus master correctly at the higher motherboard
> speeds.  I even tried it in non-turbo mode (speed unknown, but
> presumably something like 1/2 the fastest mb speed of 40MHz) and it
> still didn't work.  Will this card work with a 386-40 (amd chip) or
> will i have to get the aha1542b?  I have tried it in some 386-16
> motherboards and it passes the tests with flying colours...  So,,, i
> don't think that the card is bad.

Not many of those around (w1542a).  The CPU/bus speed has no effect on
the 154x adapters.  If the bus master test fails, it is primarily due to
the motherboard not being able to support a bus master in general.  For
your on edification, I do know of 1542 adapters being run in 386-40
systems (AMD based).  As far as bus/CPU speed goes, I also know of many
486/33 systems running 1542's as well.
Getting a 1542B will not help you.  The motherboard you have simply will
not support a bus master.
---

			Roy Neese
			Adaptec Senior SCSI Applications Engineer
			UUCP @  neese@adaptex
From: davidsen@yeti.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: help writing Future Domain software needed
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:52:14 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Apr10.203218.3176@wuecl.wustl.edu>, todd@wutc.wustl.edu (Todd M. Carrico) writes:
|  
|  I am very frustrated with my Future Domain 1600 series controller. I 
|  have yet to find anyone who (commercial or PD) supports tar.  I would
|  like to be able to shuttle things from my sun, home to my PC, by
|  cartridge tape.  So I have decided to try and write one-(take a PD tar
|  and modify it for FD use)

  Unless you need something to do in your spare time, why not use any of
the DOS tar variants which will support any tape for which you have a
device driver. I believe you can use the GNUish tar, and several of the
ones posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc over the years.

  Sorry, when I left the moderator's job I put all my disk space to
better use than keeping old archives.
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	GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: manes@tandon.com (Dane Manes)
Subject: Re: Bustek 742A EISA cards
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:08:40 GMT

In article <11291@mindlink.bc.ca> a985@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike J. Peel) writes:
>Does anyone have any comments (good or bad) on the Bustek 742A EISA cards?We
>are looking at using  them in an Everex Cube  with Novell.Or can you recommend
>a superior card?

Well, speaking from experience, the BusTek BT-742A has had some problems in 
the past, but their newer boards (rev G and later) seem to be behaving OK. 
Their support from engineering left a lot to be desired about highly technical
problems - and as much as I'd like to, the gory details won't be aired on this
forum.

We've had much better luck with the Adaptec AHA-1740A controllers. They're much 
faster (the BusTeks aren't EISA masters - they only do EISA type B DMA) and
have better software support.  Be sure to get the 1740A boards and not just
the 1740, as they made some reliability improvements with the new layout.

If you have any more specific questions, please send me some EMail.

Regards,
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From: Corwin Nichols <corwin@igc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Date: 09 Apr 92 12:25 PDT
Subject: Re: SCSI cable pinout
Nf-ID: #R:1992Apr8.215136.29616@keinstr.uu:1015479014:cdp:1356000008:000:283
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!corwin    Apr  9 12:25:00 1992


Ehile there is a standard for the 50-pin end of a SCSI cable, the same
can not be said of the 25 pin end.  Example: Future Domain and Apple
each ship products with DB-25 SCSI connectors but the pinout is 
different.  What DB25 do you need info on?
Corwin Nichols      corwin@igc.org
From: padgett@cs.utexas.edu (Don Padgett)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Need SCSI Disk Command Set
Date: 16 Apr 1992 11:10:06 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: SCSI command set disk

I need to get my hands on the entire command set specification
for ANY scsi disk drive.  Can someone recommend a quick and 
easy way for me to obtain this information? 

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: SCSI cable pinout
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:00:21 GMT

brinich@keinstr.UUCP (Mark Brinich) writes:
>Anyone out there have the standard pinout for a SCSI I cable going from a 25 pin D shell connector to a 50 pin Centronics connector?  An e-mail reply would suffice.
*----
There ISN'T a "standard" pinout for that kind of cable.  Are you
connecting a Macintosh or Future Domain controller, or something
entirely different?
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: lsven@uceng.UC.EDU (Loncaric  Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: ARE ADAPTEC 1542B AND MICROPOLIS 1588 SCO UNIX COMPATIBLE ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:25:37 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati

I am thinking about buying Micropolis 1588 (660MB SCSI HD) for my 486/25 ISA
machine and have the following question: Are Adaptec 1542B and Micropolis 1588
compatible with SCO UNIX ? Has anyone this combination running ?
I would appreciate to hear your good/bad experiences.

Please reply to my E-mail address.

Many thanks in advance
-- 
Sven Loncaric
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, University of Cincinnati
Internet: lsven@uceng.uc.edu
From: app@shamash.cdc.com ( GSD Advanced Packing/Processes)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: What is different about MAC scsi protocal?
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:56:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: shamash.41195
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN

I have a problem that I'm hoping someone will help me with.

I recently built a Spartan SCSI interface (PD project) and purchased 
a Fujitsu hard drive from a Macintosh mail order outfit.  The trouble is,
I can't make them talk to each other.

When I bought the drive I assumed that SCSI was SCSI but have since
learned that my drive is firmware configured for Macintosh which is
non-standard SCSI.  On my particular drive, I can not make it generic
SCSI with jumpers and switches!  (The larger Fuji drives are fully 
configurable).

It turns out that I had the source for the low level Spartan formatter 
and was able to get it to seemingly work by putting in a delay between the
time when the SCSI SEL line was deasserted and when the REQ signal was
looked at.

The Spartan designer is sending me the source for the device driver and
I may be able to patch it so it will talk MAC protocall if I only knew
what that is.

If anyone can help me by telling me the differnce between MAC and generic
SCSI I would greatley appreciate it!

Thanks in advance
						Mike Lundberg
						app@shamash.cdc.com
						
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Derek E Terveer)
Subject: w1542a (!) and 386-40 or 386-33
Organization: City of Saint Paul Public Works
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 08:00:44 GMT

Yes, apparently i have a w1542a card and i thought for the longest time
that it was actually a 1542a.  Sigh.  This is probably why it doesn't
match the documentation that i have on it.  Anway, i am trying out the
bus master test on a 386-40 (and also a 386-33) and it dies a horrible
death at all dma speeds.  I thought that i heard somewhere that the
1542a card would not bus master correctly at the higher motherboard
speeds.  I even tried it in non-turbo mode (speed unknown, but
presumably something like 1/2 the fastest mb speed of 40MHz) and it
still didn't work.  Will this card work with a 386-40 (amd chip) or
will i have to get the aha1542b?  I have tried it in some 386-16
motherboards and it passes the tests with flying colours...  So,,, i
don't think that the card is bad.

derek
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Maxtor 1240S (3.5" 1.2 GB drive)?
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:59:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <8717@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:

| Has anyone seen the Maxtor 1240S yet, or know when it will be
| available? This is their fast 1.2GB 3.5" scsi. I've just seen a
| specshet.

It's still available only as eval units to prospective large
customers, so far as I know.

| For that matter, are any of the 1GB 3.5" drives out besides the IBMs?

Not that I know of, although I've heard rumors that HP's may be
out now (or soon); I've not seen it myself.

I do know that we have done eval on 4-5 vendors, and none of them
have fully functional units yet, let alone production quantities.
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: Can I connect 2 Sparcs by their SCSI Interface ?
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:35:59 GMT

eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng @ NUS) writes:
>I think that if you're allowed access to the SCSI hardware, you can do
>probably anything you like. The drawback is that you have to do the
>device driver yourself.

The SCSA library functions don't let you access the SCSI host adapter
directly.  The programmer's interface presented by the SCSA library is
host adapter independent.

-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: SCSI bus monitor
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:20:49 GMT

kb13+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ken Burner) writes:
>    If your need is short-term, you may also ask the manufacturer how
>you can rent its equipment, either directly or through a dealer or
>distributor.  A couple of national electronic rental companies I know
>about are:
>Electro Rent Corp (CA) - (818) 781-2221

I've rented an Ancot DSC-203 from Electrorent, it's about $600-$800/month.
Ancot will sell you a used one for about half the price of a new one, or
around $1600, so you might as well buy it if you're going to need it more
than a couple months.  Most manufacturers will let you have the equipment
for a two week evaluation period.

Another company that makes SCSI bus analyzers is Pacific Electro Data, they
make PC based SCSI analyzers and emulators.

-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
From: alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Bustek
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:32:06 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I am looking for feedback from users of Bustek 542B board which is
supposed to be 1542B compatible board. Does Bustek offer good support?
Are they really compatible? What kind of price can I get them for?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: rayan@cs.toronto.edu (Rayan Zachariassen)
Subject: max SCSI media size?
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:21:43 GMT

On a large random access device (like a 10gig WORM platter, e.g.), will
a SCSI interface work "naturally"? Would one need special kernel support?
Anyone know of products with this combo?

Thanks,

rayan
From: neese@adaptx1.UUCP (Roy Neese)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: SCSICNTL ??
Keywords: scsi, card, program, scsicntl, control
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:05:31 GMT
Organization: Adaptec Inc., Texas

In article <jktt3wb@rpi.edu> lingy@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Yong-Ernn Daniel Ling) writes:
> 	I would like to know what this SCSI-CNTL program
> does and what cards are supported by it? Is the always 
> IN2000 or adaptec 1542B supported by this program? And in
> what operating system? Sorry to ask all these questions which
> might already have been asked because I am a beginner in 
> SCSI bbut i am willing to know more about it.

In brief, SCSICNTL is a DOS based program that allows users to get at
the various programming options available in SCSI devices.  It only
supports Adaptec cards (154x, 1640, 174x, 152x, 1510, and AIC-6260).
It talks directly to the adapter (ASPI support coming soon).  It isn;t
really intended for novice use, but if used carefully can be very useful
(at least, that's the intent).
---

			Roy Neese
			Adaptec Senior SCSI Applications Engineer
			UUCP @  neese@adaptex
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