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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: Infinity Wars & Related Stuff
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:38:35 GMT

In article <BtnCqz.145@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly) writes:
>v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jon J Klaybor) writes:
>>	Just thought I'd try and get a sub-conversation started here 
>>about the Infinity Wars series....thought it to be _very_ 
>>interesting, and was wondering if anyone is as hooked on it as I
>>am!!
>
>I hate it. I want everyone associated with putting Infinity War in
>all those titles I used to read drawn and quartered.
>
>>incredible!!  A great follow-up to the 'Infinity Gauntlet' series,
>>IMO.
> 
> Infinity Gauntlet was cool, but it stayed in it's own books. Infinitely
> Long War has lasted way too long and ruined the plot line on TOO many
> otherwise readable books.
>
Here I think Axly has hit on the reason IW is not as good as IG.  Despite the
fact that I love the Magus' Machiavellian bent, I don't see why it has to 
cross over into _every_ bloody title.  There are some books that just don't
need IW crossovers.  Deathlok, for instance.  What was the point of that?
I was thinking (Shock!  Horror!  Surprise!) today as I read the latest issue
of IW that for me, the best parts of the book have been the bits where the
crossover has expanded upon something they didn't have time to go into in
depth in the main book, vis a vis the Warlock and the Infinity Watch 
crossover last issue.  Some of the bits with the dopplegangers (particularly
the Spider-Man dupe) have also been good, giving us a chance to see in detail
what actually happened in those brief panels in the first issue.  Personally,
I thought it would've been a better idea for Wolvie to get beaten by his dupe,
and wind up being one of the "bad guys", but hey, nobody asked me.  It just 
seems that, if the Magus has all these dopplegangers just lying around, he
should've gotten at _least_ a couple more of the Earth heroes.  

Anyway, this has rambled off my original point, so I'll end it before I 
confuse anyone else.  

The Walrus
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:17:15 EDT
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Cool Sig

That sig for the "Ren & Stimpy" post a ways back is pretty cool, I must say.
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From: dml@athena.mit.edu (David M LaMacchia)
Subject: Re: Sam and Max: Freelance Police
Keywords: you crack me up, Max
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:27:47 GMT

In article <BtppHz.GB5@rice.edu> jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu (Jeremy Lyn Hart) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.034703.20796@athena.cs.uga.edu>, jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan) writes:

>story except the "roadtrip" story - it was either in the Sam & Max Color
>Special or the older Sam & Max Special (B&W, I believe).  Personally, I've

You're absolutely right.  The roadtrip story (with the "Our Bewildering Universe"
inside back cover) was in the Sam & Max Color special, published by Comico.
Around here Sam & Max sold out at every store I've been to (that's the Color reprint,
not the one packaged with that lose of a magazine, _Dirt_) so hopefully there's
more Sam & Max in the future.  Either way, now that it's an Epic book 
it's getting more publicity.

--dave



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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: Sandamn: I need a reminder
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 11:20:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.003308.8848@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> billian@exchanger.ecn.purdue.edu (Mark W. Billian) writes:
>Could someone remind me who Alinora(sp?) is?  I remember Morpheus' love affairs
>with Calliope and Nada, but the references I've been seeing to Alinora allude
>me.  Could someone help me out?


Alianora was the woman for whom the skerry called 'The Land' (in A Game Of You)
was created. Morpheus calls her 'old love' at one point, and she's referred to
in the latest issue as 'Eleanora' or some similar spelling.

Mike
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From: bill.dehaan@rose.com (bill dehaan)
Subject: BloodBloodBlood #2
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:40:46 GMT
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From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: >>>The Trouble With Sandman
Keywords: death sandman goth siouxsie
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:51:05 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep3.152236.7967@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> molly@coos.dartmouth.edu (Revolver) writes:
>>>Hold on, Death is a goth, not a punk and definitely not a Madonna or
>>>Michelle Shocked wannabe.
>
>>I never said she was a Michelle Shocked wannabe, I said merely that she
>>looked like Michelle Shocked.  Dresses like her, too.
>
>>I wonder if Gaiman is a Michelle Shocked fan.
>
>Hmmm...well, upon glancing at the cover of several of my albums, I could be
>made to _swear_ that Death looked exactly like Siouxsie Sue, lead vocalist
>for Siouxsie and the Banshees.  Yum!
>
>And Gaiman looks a little like Lou Reed, for that matter.  And he likes Tori
>Amos, which has been amply demonstrated, so I don't think it would be too
>far off to suggest that he was a Banshees fan.
>
And Dream looks alot like a younger (and thinner) Robert Smith at times.  The
lead singer/guitarist of the Cure and one-time Banshee (as in Siouxsie and the)

But of course we all know that Smitty (as he is known) is NOT the inspiration
for Dream as Gaiman has repeatly said...

>Just my $.02.
>
> - M
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From: billian@exchanger.ecn.purdue.edu (Mark W. Billian)
Subject: Sandamn: I need a reminder
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:33:08 GMT

Could someone remind me who Alinora(sp?) is?  I remember Morpheus' love affairs
with Calliope and Nada, but the references I've been seeing to Alinora allude
me.  Could someone help me out?
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:18:26 EDT
From: Steve Murray <SXM101@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Cerebus TPB (was Re: Marvel Writers slyly criticizing Company Poli
Distribution: na
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 <Bu114u.8tu@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>

In article <Bu114u.8tu@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, jkdickin@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (John
K. Dickinson) says:
>
>In article <Bu0JzF.83r@world.std.com> nectar@world.std.com (Jacques A Vidrine)
>writes:
>>
>>FYI.  I picked up _Jaka's Story_ and _Melmoth_ from my local comic book
>>store last week, so these should be available already in most cities.  I
>>payed $20 for each.
>
>        Some special arrangements must have been made. I called around the
>city
>today and couldn't find any comic store that had all 6 phonebooks. And I live
>in Kitchener/Waterloo (twin city) were Dave Sim lives and Cerebus is
>published.

I just spent the past few months in Boston, and put a lot of time and
effort into find the phonebooks.  High Society and Church and State I
were fairly common, but I only found Church and State II in one place
(a small Newbury Comics in Goverment Center), and I never saw the
first book, Melmoth, or Jaka's Story.  So apparently, they are not
*that* widespread.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: slaine: the horned god = slaine the ________ ?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:04:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.160856.28608@javelin.sim.es.com>, tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com (tim clinkenpeel) writes:
> over a year ago heavy metal ran what they announced to be a three-part series
> called "slaine: the horned god".  i never saw another installment; however, a
> recent heavy metal ran a "mr. monster" which appeared to be by the same
> person(s).

Stephen "The Biz" Bisley.

> i called the local comic shop and asked if they had a "slaine: the
> horned god" (as long before i had seen a poster for it) and they said "yeah,
> we have slaine the ______" -- i can't remember exactly what he said for
> "_____", but something along the lines of "berserker" or "barbarian".  i'm
> wondering if this is the continuation to "S:THG" or something completely
> different.

Same characters, different artist (no Biz).

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From: manley@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (HELD HOSTAGE -- YEAR ONE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Sandman 42
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:13:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug26.210816.26672@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> ack@coos.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams) writes:
>manley@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (HELD HOSTAGE -- YEAR ONE) writes:
>
>All we have as evidence is a tombstone. Anyone who's seen the Omen will know
>that what a stone says is not always what the grave contains...

  Yes, but are you then saying that Johanna somehow escaped the curse on
  the Constantine family and did *not* die alone and friendless?  Besides,
  you point out below that Morpheus only knew the mytery woman for a few
  months, yet he would have known Johanna Constantine for quite a while.
  She might still be knocking around, but I doubt she's the new ex-lover.

>>  Ditto for Unity Kincaid (she was my previous guess; damn, I'd
>>  kind of hoped it was her).
>
>Same here.

  I'm pretty certain she's gone away.  Again, the time thing comes into play.
  Unity, if she had stuck around in the dreaming, would have been there for
  at least two years (that's how long it has been between Season of Mists and
  Brief Lives, according to Desire in the last issue).  

>>  All of Dream's old flames (Calliope,
>>  Nada, Alianora) are dead or, in Nada's case, an infant.
>
>Calliope is not dead. In fact, I have yet to hear a good reason why it
>cannot be her. At the end of Calliope (Dream Country) she indicates that
>she wants to see him again and he says No. So, what if he changed his mind
>later on? Then she goes back and finds out she doesn't love him...

  In the last issue, Lucien made it pretty clear in his discussions with
  Matthew that it is not Calliope.

>Let's see, that
>>  leaves Barbie and Rose Walker.  I think both of those characters' parts in 
>>  Gaiman's story are finished.
>
>Maybe, maybe not. It could be either (I would lean more towards Rose) but
>their personalities don't really fit what we have been lead to think...

  I will be quite disappointed in Gaiman if he uses either of these two
  characters again.  Neither was anywhere near interesting enough to deserve
  such a prominent role.

>Reason why not Thes: In Brief Lives #2 he mentions how he only knew her
>a brief few months. He's known Thes for quite some time (see end of Game
>of You)...

  No, Morpheus did not know Thess specifically -- he knew the Thessalians
  from the old days, and he recognized her as one of the witch-women.  I
  will look this up when I get home.


  Geez, this is fun.

  M.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: Infinity Wars & Related Stuff
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:16:04 GMT

In article <Btnu4z.J4x@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v079m8ta@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jon J Klaybor) writes:
> >>
> >Nope. Sorry,but I don't get why I should fork over my hard-earned $ for yet
> >_another_ overblown Marvel mini-series which accomplishes absolutely zilch
> >except to line that company's collective pocket.
> 
> 	Nothing??  You imply that controlling the end-all-be-all of the
> 	universe means nothing?

No.  Repeat to yourself:  "it's a fictional story".  :-/

> Doesn't Thanos pique your curiosity one bit?

Not at all.  He's just another in a very long line of badly-written characters
with big boots and bad complexions.

> >Uh. After reading through (notice that I didn't say "buying"-that's a
> > bit of a stretch) virtually all of the issues of INFINITY GAUNTLET [...]
>                     ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^
> 
> 	Does skimming thru a few issues of a six-part series qualify you to
> 	rip it apart??  Forgive me, you said _read through_.  You mean to say
> 	you stood in the store for 1/2 hour or so reading thru the entire book?
> 	Hmm. 

I take it you never loan comics from your friends?

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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: Sandman (spoilers)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:53:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.132139.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Dan Elmoe) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.082157.1@skcla.monsanto.com>, jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>> Is it just me or was Jill Thompson's art better the previous issue?
>
>	Different inker, and I agree that he did a hack job on the art.
>What struck me in particular was how small Delirium was.  She wasn't that
>tiny in #21 or #31.

Oh tch.  She's just intimidated by Dream and regresses a bit to her more
youthful state... sort of.
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From: dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: !mpact postmortem
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:05:28 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:

> In article <1992Aug23.184851.19951@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freen
> >
> >Could someone be so kind to tell me exactly what is going to happen to
> >the Impact books.  I'm usually the last to here of info anyway.
> 
> 	They're all getting cancelled in Sept/October.
> 	There is some sort of plan brewing for a mini-series called
> "Crucible" (I think that's right.)  Nate Cray (the Black Hood) 
> gets some sort of prophetic vision and has to stop some sort of 
> awful future.  Grim-n-gritty, I'd guess.  It's a shame, as Black Hood
> is a decent title.
> -- 
> Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
> albert@bcm.tmc.edu			Baylor College of Medicine
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> 	"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."-Saturday Night Live


Can you say "New Universe?"
I knew you could. :)

Dascoser
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Misc: Bookeeping stuff.
Followup-To: kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:49:47 GMT

Hi, Scavenger here again. Well it looks like that the LNH is starting to crawl
from the wreckage(gee, just like Morrison's Doom Patrol).  I've had several new
people wanting to join (and rest assured ya'll will be in the next installment)

I'm going to attempt to combine allthe different threads into one cohessive
story (It'll be sorta like an editor). I figure I'll fall somewhere between
Mike Eury(let the writers do whatever the hell they want) and Bob "I can f**k up
a book worse than Lobdell"Harris (Deciding on my own what happens).  
Please feel free to write whatever strike's your fancy.  I'm just gonna hammer
it into the continuity.

LET"S SHOW THE SQUID-ZOMBIES THAT THE LNH HAS A STRONG FAN FOLLOWING!!!(Just 
kidding Dave :-) :-)

In Other news: I haven't recieved any word on a exsisting copy of the black
super-heroes list, so I'll assume no one has one.  I'll take what I have and try
to re-compile it and then repost it to get help.

Also: there's been a lot of interest on the Jewish super-heroes list (all 6or7)
I'll Post what I remember to r.a.c.m. and we can go from there.

A side note for MUDers, check out AfterFive--it's a Muck based on Bourbon Street
in New Orleans,  it's really cool.

Finaly:I'm looking for any New Orleans comic fans.  E-mail me.

SEE Ya'll in the funny papers.

-----SCAVENGER

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From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Face of Doom
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:58:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Btyn56.8Go
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <1992Sep2.154226.24687@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.001424.20588@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>>The face of Doom has been speculated on for many years. One of them is
>>that Doom isn't really hideous scarred, but is just increadiably vain.
>>The explosion that maimed him actually only put a small scar on him, but
>>because he was so vain about his looks he decided he was scarred
>>forever.
>
>When John Byrne did FF, he retold Doom's origin.  In the new version,
>the only effect of Vic's attempt to rescue his mother's soul was that
>he had a small scar on one side of his face (don't remember which).
>However, he was so vain, he thought he was so hideously scarred that he
>didn't mind getting a red-hot mask placed directly on his face, thus
>completely ruining his face.  His face is destroyed, but it wasn't a
>result of the experiment.
When was this new version of Doom's origin first shown?

"Is it madness, my dear Enchantress, which drives a man of my genius to strive
 for an impossible prize..or is it the striving for that which is ever just
 out of reach which prevents madness from overtaking me?"  
					Dr. Doom, Secret Wars
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Subject: Re: My thoughts on Sandman 42
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:03:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: jjfink

In article <17hmmpINNruo@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu>, lazarus@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu () writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug25.174619.26380@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, ack@coos.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams) writes:
>>All of his past love-disasters have been female, but I doubt there is any hard 
>>and fast rule that Dream couldn't be bi... who's to say really except Gaiman 
>>himself.
> 
> Who's to say that Dream has to be MALE all the time?
> 
Regardless of Dream's sexual preferences, issue 42 DOES say "her" in reference
to the recently departed paramour.

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From: ack@coos.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Sandman 42
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:46:19 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.032222.15756@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, tyg@z.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
>Unspecified?  From the TPB edition of Season of Mists, it seems pretty
>apparent that Dream will replace the bound Susan-Thingie with a dream image,
>and that Loki is born into an oriental child.

What??? No, It wasn't stated what happened to Loki. The oriental baby was
Dream's gift to Nada: She gets to have another life. This time as a boy
(maybe so he won't be tempted). Of course, that's assuming that the endless
(specifically Dream) are heterosexual. All of his past love-disasters have
been female, but I doubt there is any hard and fast rule that Dream couldn't
be bi... who's to say really except Gaiman himself.

-A
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From: rockstea@galoob.cs.utk.edu (Courtney C. Rockstead)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: What's with "The Human Target" (Hey, DC readers!)?
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:29:09 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rockstea@galoob.cs.utk.edu (Courtney C. Rockstead)
NNTP-Posting-Host: galoob.cs.utk.edu

	Hi.  I've become an avid watcher of the Rick Springfield series,
"The Human Target", Saturdays on ABC.  At the end it says that it is
based on a DC comics character by Wein and Infantino.  I thought they
meant The Avenger from a two-parter called "Justice, Inc." (man, that
was good!), but they don't.  So, does anyone know what they do mean?

	Also, Chaykin is involved in this series as I believe he was
for "The Flash".  I was sorry to see the Flash series go, but am glad
that some of the scenery and such is used in this one.  Did anyone
notice on the most recent show that WFLY looked suspiciously like the
front of that lab in "The Flash"?

	If you're a fan out there, speak up!  And if anyone can help
with my question, it would be greatly appreciated.  Cheers

Rock

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