From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Mario Cuomo on the "wrongness" of abortion
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:26:32 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1993Jan24.024437.1316@csus.edu>chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu
(Stephen A Chaney) writes:

[deletia]

>People like Catholics for a Free Choice, if their point is that
>"Jesus is Pro-Choice," have never even cracked open a Bible because if
>they did they'd bite their tongues. Anyone who bases pro-choice on the
>Bible, should bite their tongues and get an education.
>(Then again, anyone who bases pro-life on the Bible, I would warn to
>look out for that constitutional wall between Church and State, called
>the First Amendment.)

Anyone who bases _any_ argument on the Bible should get a proper
education. Hate to break the news to you, Chaney, but not everybody
believes that the Bible is G-d's word. And even if they did, I can
tell you (from my Hebrew-Day-School education), that you can twist
the Bible around to mean whatever you want it to mean.

[more deletia]

>Oh, and by the way, if you are an atheist, do you use the American
>Dollar? I would indeed find it hard if I were an atheist, to purchase
>goods with "In God We Trust" on the back of the currency in my
>wallet..

I don't. It's just paper and ink. What's really important is all
the stuff you can buy with said paper and ink. I'd use notes that
had "Elvis is alive" on the back, if it'd get me a cheesesteak
from the deli down the street. What's your point?

[still more stuff deleted--deal with it]

>I can agree with that. However, the religious right is no more
>dangerous or numerous than the religious LEFT, which can be seen at
>most animal rights, PETA lab-bombing, and treecutter-spiking rallies.

Hmmmm... no mention of the religious center, who generally go around
minding their own business. Uh, wait a minute... which one of us is
supposed to have this thing against religion? I'm getting confused. :-)

[snip snip]

>I prefer them (and Holtsinger is no liar - if he is then Susan Garvin
>must be "Liar" in Martian) over you. At least THEY are honest and
>up-front.

_Very_ up-front. Doogie in particular is really up front about having
a supposed article he refuses to share with the net. C'mon Doogie, we
get newspapers from all over the world here. At least give me the
paper's name and date, and I'll find out for myself if you're speaking
the truth.

I won't even begin to start in on Suzanne Forgets, who can't even
provide any statistics on her imaginary abortion syndrome. Feh.

[riiiiiiiiiipppppp...]

>And with anti-Free Speech FASCISTS trying to make it illegal to
>picket in front of clinics when it is perfectly legal to picket
>anywhere else (hell, they even picket some military facilities and get
>away with it), it only proves one thing:

Last I heard, picketing was not speech. Try the right to peaceably
assemble, and you may finally have the semblance of an argument.

"Peaceably", of course, means you can't threaten or harass anyone
who tries to enter the clinic.

>Will America lose its freedoms to a few fanatic fascist Christians,
>into which all dedicated Christians are unjustly lumped (like Suzanne),
>or will America lose its freedoms to an army of smiling, love-spewing
>liberals and religious leftists, who attack under the cover of media
>blackouts, lies and good words (all of which cover their fascist
>actions)?

Neither. Moderates and centrists like myself will be around to check
the abuses from both sides.

  >---------------------------------------------------------------------
  >--Steve Chaney: Founder, Borg Operating Space Systems, Revision 2.5--
  >USENET Warlord / IRC Channel Owner / Accounts WorldWide / Home Login!
              >(Whooboy that means LOTSA time for all this?)
                  >The B.O.S.S. does not speak for CSUS.

You're _boasting_ about being a warlord? Ladies and gentlemen, I submit
this as proof that Steve Chaney really does not have a clue.

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