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From: dave@dny.rockwell.com (Dr. Dave)
Subject: new Test
Organization: Rockwell International
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:10:37 GMT

Test

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From: waldbyjf@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (NB Forever)
Newsgroups: alt.text.dwb
Subject: T
Date: 7 Oct 1992 03:46:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
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I thought this said alt.test.dwb, so I posted my test message here.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Non-Drug Induced States
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:34:43 GMT

kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu wrote:

: Hello,

Hello. :)

:   I'm starting to work on my senior thesis for art.  I'm interested in 
: "non-drug-induced tripping" or states of well-being.  I've been looking into
: the use of such things by rotating mandlebrot/fractal color patterns (looks
: like tie-dye patterns) and also by the effects of stereoscopic (3-d, crosseyed
: view, etc) images.  There are other ways to go about this kind of stuff
: (I think that Timothy Leary is getting involved with it)  Since I don't do
: drugs, it's hard to know if I'm approaching the same results, although things
: can still be "funky" to me.

: Do you know of any publications (books, magazine articles, etc) that deal
: with this sort of thing?  Any information will be appreciated.

Try the book "Free Rides".  It details how to get high legally.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol
Subject: Non-Drug Induced States
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:27:56 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Hello,
  I'm starting to work on my senior thesis for art.  I'm interested in 
"non-drug-induced tripping" or states of well-being.  I've been looking into
the use of such things by rotating mandlebrot/fractal color patterns (looks
like tie-dye patterns) and also by the effects of stereoscopic (3-d, crosseyed
view, etc) images.  There are other ways to go about this kind of stuff
(I think that Timothy Leary is getting involved with it)  Since I don't do
drugs, it's hard to know if I'm approaching the same results, although things
can still be "funky" to me.
An example of this effect of "pseudo-tripping":
  Once at the Limelight, in NYC I was sitting in a small side dance room.
There weren't too many people in there, this light was shining off a mirrored
disco ball and created hundreds of little lights on the floor moving around.
If I followed the lights around it was alright, but when I stared at one
spot on the floor, it felt like I was flying and spinning around.  If effects
like these are combined with stereo sound (oscillating between speakers..
to cause a rotating effect) total disorientation of the user/viewer will occur.
Do you know of any publications (books, magazine articles, etc) that deal
with this sort of thing?  Any information will be appreciated.
 - Thanks

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From: dern@acs.bu.edu (Kevin Dern)
Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol
Subject: Hypnotism
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:41:36 GMT
Distribution: bos
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: dern@acs.bu.edu


Hello all - I've been interested in hypnosis for about 5 years now, and for
the last three I have successfully and safely hypnotized many of my
friends... I'm especially interested in doing dream exploration through
hypnosis. I'm looking for someone in the Boston area that would be interested
in letting me hypnotize you. It's completely safe, you'll be in control of
yourself, you don't have to do anything you don't want to.

This is legit., not a sex thing or something like that. I really do
just want to hypnotize you, male or female.

Please contact me via E Mail if you're interested.

Kevin                              dern@acs.bu.edu
From: dern@acs.bu.edu (Kevin Dern)
Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol
Subject: RE: Is Mind Control Possible
Date: 26 Sep 92 03:57:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: dern@acs.bu.edu

Sapphira. . .

It seems some people can'ttake a topic like this seriously. I'm fascinated 
by it!

If you accept Jung's concept of a collective subconscious, then at least
a connection of two minds is conceivable. I've been experimenting with 
tarot cards for a few years now, and I'm working on the theory that
if they work at all, it is because the symbols on the cards, which
Jung calls archpes, and the routine of the actual reading frees the
reader's subconscious to, at the least, reveal 'through the symbols'
what it already senses. At the most, it frees the subconscious to make
a true connection with the other's mind. 

I've also been experimenting with hypnosis over the last few years,
successfully hypnotizing quite a few people, some more successful than
others. I suppose that's a form of mind control, but hypnosis can't really
be accomplished without the person wanting to 'go under'. 

I have read that the hypnotic state, actually just a relaxing of the 
consciousness (or the border between conscious and subconscious), is
exactly the same as the half-awake state we are in just before we actually
fall asleep, and just as we awake (if we awake natually, not with an 
external stimuli). Therefore, argued this author (whose name eludes me...),
one could give someone hypnotic suggestions while they are in that state.
It still wouldn't be complete mind control, however, more like mind-
influencing. You couldn't really make someone do something that their
sunconscious didn't want them to do. 

I'm really interested in discussing these things, as well as other related 
ideas. . . dreams, etc. Please E-mail me if you'd like to discuss it 
further.

                                             Kevin
     
                                             dern@acs.bu.edu

P. I'm posting this under 'alt.mindcontrol' and E-mailing it
to your mailbox. Just to make sure you get it one way or another!

Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol
From: acarstea@icaen.uiowa.edu (Alin-Andrei Carsteanu)
Subject: Re: Is mind control really possible?
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:18:10 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <ajb.717425680@hela.iti.org> ajb@iti.org (Al Boehnlein) writes:
><IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>
>>Is it possible to control other people's minds?
>
>I have had girl friends do it to me all the time!
>
>ajb :)

Man, this guy knows what he's talking about!! And it's not a joke...
	Alin
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: 1969 Mercedes Benz questions
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:34:31 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep30.173114.14196@odin.corp.sgi.com> bongers@gto400.asd.sgi.com (Hans L. Bongers) writes:
"Hi.  I recently bought a '69 Benz 280S.  What have I got in terms of motor?
"I was told that it has the "66 24hr of Lemans racing motor".  From looking,
"the car has 2 4BBL carbs and is an in-line 6 cylinder engine.

it's a 2.8L (dohc?) inline 6 also used in other benzes.  i believe
you'll find that the carbs are 2BBL solexes with primary, secondary,
and progressive linkage just like a 4BBL.

dunno if it ever ran at lemans.

"Anybody out there a mercedes expert???

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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: Lee H Page Jr <lpage@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: 1948 Willys Pickup
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:58:50 GMT

I have a 1948 Willys pickup for sale if anyone out there is interested in
building a neat street rod??
From: cobra@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roland Dudley)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:16:44 GMT
Subject: Re: BEST way to clean rusted antique spark plugs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique

Try a phosphoric acid based products like Naval Jelly.  There are also
some "organic" rust removers on the market.  Check at a local hardware
store or mail order places like Eastwood.  You might want to try gun
bluing for the finish.  You can get that at any gun shop.  You'll have
to remove the "residue" left by the rust remover before applying the
bluing.  Use a wire brush or steel wool.  I assume you DON'T plan
to use these spark plugs in an engine.
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: asdch@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: 57ford-possible street rod?
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:39:55 GMT

anyone think an old ford (57-58) truck would make a good street rod?
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: A0RY000 <A0RY@UNB.CA>
Subject: test..................
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:38:59 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks)
Subject: Re: Old car info needed
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:32:07 GMT

In article <droland.920928173722@lab17.eng.auburn.edu> droland@eng.auburn.edu (David A. Roland) writes:
>While looking around on some land my Dad just bought I
>discovered some old cars, a 1941 Chevy Special Deluxe,
>a ~39 Chevy Convertible, ~42 Station Wagon, and ~35 
>School Bus, and 40-50 International Combine.  
>
>These cars are pretty rough, it looks like they have
>been here for probably 30 or 40 years and the engines are
>gone out of most of them, and the floorboards and frames
>are rusted out, but the bodies are solid enough to walk
>around on with no major body damage, all the chrome parts
>are on them and the hoods, doors, bumpers and fenders are
>fine.  Is any of this stuff worth anything?  I can go

***** YES!!!! *******

I would  move these things to safer quarters, even if they're only good for
strtipping for parts. Especially the convertible - they're always worth
something. YOu could pick up some spare cash hitting the swap meets with this
stuff, or sell the better (?) cars complete as projects or parts cars.

I was talking to a guy at a show this weekend looking for '42 Chevy sedan
parts. Email me w/ details, and any verification of it truly being a '42.

 
Ted Brooks
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From: jss5@ellis.uchicago.edu (jeffrey s sweeney)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: old volcanos and emmissions
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:14:02 GMT
Reply-To: jss5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
To: bongers@gto400.asd.sgi.com
Bcc: sweeney@dionheinz.uchicago.edu

>If one took all the cars built prior to 1992 & ran them continuously
>for about 100 years you probably wouldn't have half the pollution
>dumped by Mt Penatubo 's eruption last year...  Think about it...
>
>--- hans

So... what's the point?  Do you think we should (could!) put pollution
controls on Mt. Pinatubo?
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: jbn@photon.com (Joe Naiman)
Subject: Re: Environmentalists versus old cars (long)
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:14:01 GMT

I thank the respondants to this article for their constructive criticism.

They were correct that I should not have included the issues of population
control and nuclear power in this piece.  The point of the article was to
show that the "environmentalists" are making enemies unnecessarily; while
the threat of a diversionary battle and other examples may have been
appropriate for an article aimed at the environmentalists, it was not
necessary for an article intended for a car crowd.  A new version of the
article has been implemented for submission to automotive/motorcycle
publications.

Many car lovers care about scenery, the open road, and other aspects of
the environment.  Environment should be associated with these positive
aspects, not with attacks upon the automobile.  The environmental advocates
among us should stress this to their regulatory colleagues.

I'm glad that this was able to be corrected while among friends, instead
of actually submitting this article to an audience which could have been
alienated (not that some of you weren't offended, too, but I doubt that
will change your opinion of my main point).

One final warning on a seemingly unrelated issue:  in my boyhood I
collected both coins and baseball cards.  When the economy of the late
1970's and early 1980's (whether the blame rests on Carter of the
Federal Reserve Governors appointed by his predecessor doesn't matter
here) made gold, silver, stocks, and other traditional commodities
unstable investments, baseball cards and coins went from primarily a
hobby to primarily an investment.  While classic car lovers must continue
to be watchful against government restrictions, we must also be concerned
about the possibility of classic car owners being more concerned about
their ROI than about preserving automotive heritage and enjoying the road.
Our hobby may face a new threat in these uncertain economic times.
From: dan@seismo.noname (Dan Hagedorn)
Subject: Environmentalists versus old cars 
Followup-To: /dev/null
Reply-To: No one
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:34:57 GMT

I, even driving a gas-guzzling Detroit creation, am doing more for 
the planet than these so-called environmentalists by not having
children.  Having children not only increases the mileage that
must be driven each year, but the children crete hundreds of pounds
of garbage, consume a great deal of the planet's resources, and 
continue to do so until they die (2 additional humans in this 
country equate to 2 additional autos on the road).

To save the planet, keep reproduction down, become vegetarian
(it takes much more energy to grow 1# of beef than 1# of soy beans),
and recycle your garbage.  A few old, well-maintained cars on the
road do not pose near the threat to the planet as do those people
who insist on unrestricted breeding!!!!!!!!!



Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland)
Subject: Re: Firebird '69 6 cyl
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:40:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.134159.16783@cornerstone.com> aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron) writes:
>I'm considering buying a '69 Firebird convertible with the OHC straight-6 
>motor (1-bbl carb).  I'd really prefer a V8 but this car's in great shape and 
>I know the six is rather rare.  Certainly this car won't win any races and 
>doesn't have much investment potential, but I just want a fun classic to 
>drive around during the summer.  Any opinions on this car/engine combination?  
>Please email me as my news feed is experiencing problems.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Andy
>
>

If the car is in good conditon, and you have the money for it, I say buy it.
If the six is a rare engine, the car might be worth a lot more than what 
you'll pay for it.
Michael Overland
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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Subject: Firebird '69 6 cyl
Reply-To: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Organization: Cornerstone Research, Cambridge, Mass.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:41:59 GMT

I'm considering buying a '69 Firebird convertible with the OHC straight-6 
motor (1-bbl carb).  I'd really prefer a V8 but this car's in great shape and 
I know the six is rather rare.  Certainly this car won't win any races and 
doesn't have much investment potential, but I just want a fun classic to 
drive around during the summer.  Any opinions on this car/engine combination?  
Please email me as my news feed is experiencing problems.

Thanks,

Andy


Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: FORSAIL:1965 Volvo 544
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:08:19 GMT

    1965 volvo 544, white, clean, straight, rebuilt engine, new interior,
garadge kept. price $3800. Currently in Amarillo and will be moved to Dallas
in a month.
  This is my roomates car so no email please, call Hans at 214-369-3979 eves.

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: A0RY000 <A0RY@UNB.CA>
Subject: test..................
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:43:19 GMT
From: bwelch@sedona.intel.com (Brian Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Help!  Need Camshaft Specs
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:47:38 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., ICD, Chandler AZ.
Originator: bwelch@alpine


I am currently rebuilding the engine in my 1984 HURST/OLDS  (High 0utput
307 Olds, V.I.N code 9).  The camshaft must be replaced but the original
is no longer in production and Oldsmobile cannot locate an NOS part.  I
need the specs so that I can match an aftermarket camshaft as closely
as possible to the original.  Location of a NOS camshaft would be ideal
but I have tried for two months already with no luck.


P.S.   I realize that this vehicle in no way can be classified as an
antique, but it is a rare car and I know that readers of this newsgroup
are good at locating parts and tracing part numbers for rare vehicles.
From: asdch@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Flat-Head V-8.  Opinions?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:51:05 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska


	That '57 ford truck I earlier inquired about has the original flat-head
V-8.  I would appreciate any opinions on this engine in terms of worth or 
practicability.  If I fixed it up should I remove the engine and preserve it, or
run it in the truck.  It must be difficult to find parts for it, but I'm sure
the guts are alright- it was drivin to its current resting spot in 1970 and has
not been touched since.   I am curious about the engine because there is a chain
and a padlock on the hood.  The body on this truck has no rust or dents(small 
dings maybe) and aside from moss growing on it, looks to be restorable. 
						Thanks, Dave.
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Reissue of old body styles, was...junking of old cars
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:26:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.173000.25394@versyss.com> keithd@versyss.UUCP (Keith Doyle) writes:
>>>I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we start seeing special re-release
>>>versions of old body styles, with new engines (and unfortunately, probably
>
>I kinda doubt that, I think it would make them worth more, actually.
>
>I'm not saying this is what I want, just one idea that the U.S. car companies
>might figure they have something on the Japanese.  I'm much happier with
>my original classics than I would be with an updated "collectors" version,
>for sure.

The "Kit Car" market is the only probable place for "re-issue" of certain
old car body styles.  The reason is that the new car production is under
too many federal requirements in terms of safety features, federal bumper
requirements, etc.  Those laws pretty much eliminate the prospect of a
new car manufacturer coming out with an MG-TD look-a-like today.  And, as
others will no doubt point out, the kit car version of an MG-TD is worth
considerably less than a pristine original MG-TD.  The same is basically
true for almost any kit car.

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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: asdch@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: on that 68 continental, no manual, but that 460...
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:44:54 GMT

	Is that '68 Continental a two door, or is it the suicide door version
(four doors)?  I don't know about repair manuals, but I think it does matter
that the car has the 460 4-v.  The car would not be the same without it.
I know someone with the same car (460 4-v, 2 door), and it can do a burnout
for miles.  This is a heavy  car and it needs that stump pulling grunt motor.
							Dave
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Dirt Belchers
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:23:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.190246.26144@walter.bellcore.com> mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch) writes:
[]
"why aren't we trying to clean up diesels?  They stink,

i think the rest of your argument is valid, but i can't resist --
what does this damage, besides your sensibilities?

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