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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 13:28:11 EST
From:         "Phil M. Jones" <pjones@rvgs.vak12ed.edu>
Subject:      Re: Cable TV on Campus

Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)

RAREHN%stthomas.edu@ohstvma.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
> We are about to install cable television to the residence halls on
> campus and I would like to hear from those of you that have already done
> so. Specifically, we need to figure out how to manage the converter box
> situation. In our system students with cable ready sets will not
> require a converter but those with older models will.  How do you
> distribute and track the converters. Do you rent or lease them and then
> refund something similar to a security deposit when they are returned?
> Any sense these days of what percentage of sets are cable ready?
> Look forward to your responses.
>
> Bob Rehn
> RAREHN@STTHOMAS.EDU
> 612-647-5267

I don't know about your specific situation;but, most cable
companies including the one servicing our area of Virginia
charge an up front fee when the box is installed by the company
or picked up by consumer. An additional fee per month for use
of the box is charged. When the box is turned in the up front
fee is returned.

Phil Jones, CET
Henry County Public Schools (Collinsville Virginia)
pjones@rvgs.vak12ed.edu
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:18:26 EST
From:         "Kathy Westbrook, X56013, LT859" <$W$ED10@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Software to format documents

RE:>Dennis Sorge request on software to format in APA style...
There is a product out called WPCitation (PCformat) which links to
WordPerfect.  It generates citations for journal and book publishers
in most academic formats, including APA. Information is entered in
a database-like format, then you tell it the format to print out...
Also includes AAA, APSA, MLA, Chicago A, Chicago B, Cambridge UP,
Praeger, Turabian, Wiley, + a whole bunch more (about 150 in all)
Order from Oberon Resources, 147 E.Oakland Ave, Columbus OH 43201,USA
1-800-594-9062  (Price about $125U.S.)
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:04:38 EST
From:         WIGNALL@VALPO.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Cable TV on Campus

Bob Rehn,
Your question about tracking cable converter boxes is a good one, but not
novel. You're facing the same problem many of us are in trying to come
to grips with the physical ownership/stewardship of technology outside
the classroom. Like computers, modems, shared printers, and the like, cable
converters can be handled through:
1. outright purchase.
2. lease and refund of deposit
3. refund of deposit (i.e. you eat the original cost)
4. mount the unit in the room in some way
5. put a multiplex unit in the system somwhere before the room and offer a
        limited number of channels (say 5-10). The student has an option to
        install an A/B switch to get direct broadcast signal through antennae.

Like compelling students to enter colleg with a computer you run into
problems of cable-ready vs. the parents 20-yr-old Quasar (instead of the
myriad of PC connectivity questions). Are the residence halls equipped
for power for the tv, stereo w/cd player, microwave, blowdryer, Nintendo
octopus that springs from each student's suitcase? Are you billing them
for cable use on top of hookup? Do you really want them watching all
the Home Shopping Channel that they can stand?

In short Mr. Rehn, if you do come up with an easy and sane way to track
, provide, and fix converter boxes for students at St. Thomas please let
this list know immediately. Many of us are asking the same question you are.
Have you other options to add to the five above? I hope, seriously, I hope
they were of some help. I wish you luck.

Eric
WIGNALL@Exodus.Valpo.Edu
or
WIGNALL@Valpo.Bitnet
From: ters@csn.org (Terry Smith)
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Date: 19 Nov 92 01:40:05 GMT
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NAPLPS is an ancronym for something that starts out:  North American
Protocol L? P? S? (I don't know what the LPS stand for!)  What it is
is a graphics standard that uses vector graphics and resultant images
are very small files.  For example, you can draw a large circle that is
"filled in" with a color and that entire image requires 8 bits.  What it
does for telecommunications is allow the insertion of graphics in e-mail.
David Hughes, Old Colorado City Communications, Colorado Springs, CO, USA,
is an expert in NAPLPS and he is currently putting the polishing touches
on some software called TELEDRAW that will revolutionize basic tele-
communications.

Jim Fleming described the NAPLPS ANSI standard in Byte Magazine,
February-May, 1983.  It is the standard used by Prodigy for their
graphics.  Dave Hughes has refined the use of NAPLPS to the point where
it is capable of very fine artwork.

Dave's e-mail is dave@csn.org (and many other addresses).  Look for
NAPLPS newsgroups on Internet, Bitnet, Usenet, and Fidonet.  There
is shareware available for a basic NAPLPS drawing program.  The original
source of the shareware is:  Microstar Software, Ltd., 34 Colonnade
Road North, Suite 100, Nepean, Ontario, Canada, K2W 7J6 and a copy
is available from them (with documentation) for $75.  It runs on MS-DOS.

We picked NAPLPS for use with our VBI project because it ships images
very quickly (fast enough to incorporate simple animation).

bcnu, ters


Terry Smith   ters@csn.org
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:34:01 EST
From:         Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject:      Re: NAPLPS

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992, Steven A. Gamble wrote:

> Terry:
> Please elaborate on the use of NAPLPS in Colorado. We are currently designing
> campus information system here at the University of Georgia using NAPLPS and
> NABETS protocol. We will be using a full channel's bandwidth on our campus
>
> It has been hard to locate many people who have ever heard of NAPLPS, much
> harder to locate people who actually use it.

Contact Dave Hughes (daveh@cns.org) who has done extensive work with
NAPLPS, both here in the states and in foreign countries.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:59:22 EST
From:         Charles Savitt <CXLEE@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOS BACKUP

For those of us who can't afford an extra hard drive, is there a simple
method or a software program that makes backing up a Mac's hard drive to
floppy disk an easy process? I have heard that there is a way to
"compress" ones hard drive and use a minimum of disks to back up these
compressed files. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

Charles M. Savitt
Arizona State University
Educational Media and Computers
Tempe, AZ 85287-0111
(602)965-6558

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:00:30 EST
From:         CXLEE@ASUACAD.BITNET
Subject:      QuickTime

Can anyone suggest a software program that I can use to demonstrate quick time
technology with? I am aware that there is a quicktime kit--want a piece of
commercial software that incorporates quick time technology---am familiar with
Kid Pix companion and Headline Harry--looking for any other similar type of
program that incorporates this technology---thanks for any help out there!

Charles M. Savitt
Arizona State University
Educational Media and Computers
Tempe, AZ 85287-0111
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:46:36 EST
From:         Bob Kamper <KAMPER@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOS BACKUP

Actually, with DOS 5.0 you can use the shell to associate file extensions
such as .wp5 to an application such as WordPerfect.  Then all you do is
click on the filename or its icon and the application is loaded with the
program.
In addition, you can use the shell to set up program files that work like
batch files.  With a little work and not much required in skill, you can use
dos shell to create an organized desktop interface. You have a choice.
On the other hand, the mac seems to discourage the average user from organizing
 the desktop - I have seen too many mac desktops that look like my desktop at h
ome - stacks of books, files, and papers and cluttered.  The computer helps me
organize some of this mess.  The Mac seems to encourage ignorance of the user.
I use both MACs and DOS machines and provide training/instruction on both.
"Heap Zone Full - No launch" is about as user friendly as "Abort, retry, fail?"
 in my book.  Both platforms have their pros and cons. Computers are tools.

Bob Kamper
KAMPER@NERVM
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:38:14 EST
From:         brochman@sfu.ca
Subject:      Re: DOS BACKUP

>I often run a single file through a series of applications and would
>be extremely frustrated if the machine kept opening the previous
>application instead of the next one.
Launching a file automatically launches the application which created it.
But... there is no reason why you can't launch whichever application you
want. Ie: this is not a problem.

Harold Brochman
brochman@sfu.ca
Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, Canada
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:56:41 EST
From:         Gary J LaPointe <21757gjl@ibm.cl.msu.edu>
Subject:      Re: Cable TV on Campus

>We are about to install cable television to the residence halls on
>campus and I would like to hear from those of you that have already done
>so. Specifically, we need to figure out how to manage the converter box
>situation. In our system students with cable ready sets will not
>require a converter but those with older models will.  How do you
>distribute and track the converters. Do you rent or lease them and then
>refund something similar to a security deposit when they are returned?
>Any sense these days of what percentage of sets are cable ready?

Here at MSU we rent the boxes to the students.  I assume if they don't
return it, it just gets billed to their account.


Gary J LaPointe   :^)

Michigan State University
21757gjl@ibm.cl.msu.edu

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:09:25 EST
From:         Bruce Carter <bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu>
Subject:      Re: The Macintosh Desktop Metaphor

Greetings,

>                                        On the DeskTop will be
>seen the menu bar at the top. In the desktop lower down and to
>the right side you will see two or more Icons. Typicallyyou see
>the icon of the internal Hard Drive, and the Trash Can. If You
>have any external devices such as external Hard Drives, Tape
>Drives, CD ROM Drives, their icons appear on the Desktop.
>Floppy Drives do not appear on the desktop until a disk is
>inserted.

Unless you are running At Ease, or one of the other Finder replacements, or are
running one or more startup applications.  Then you will see the display
appropriate to that environment, not the Finder desktop.

>                                After opening the device the
>device opens and what DOS people call a "Window" (Mac folks
>call it an "Open Desktop") opens to reveal icons in the shape
>of either a "File Folder" (representing a folder much like in a
>"Filing Cabinet", or a "Sheet of Paper with a folded down
>corner" representing a "Document" or Application" file, that
>would be inside the folder.

I've never heard it called an "open desktop", but that's of no matter.  The
icons that are seen are of many more shapes than just the folder and generic
document and application icons.  Every application can have its own icon as
well as several different icons for the different types of files associated
with it.  In addition, System 7, as well as some System 6 extensions, allow you
to assign your own custom icons to just about everything.

>                                        This window has a
>"close" box in the top left-hand corner, a "Size" box in the
>upper right-hand corner and a Drag Box" in the lower right-hand
>corner. The "close" box when the mouse pointer is placed over
>it and the mouse is clicked; closes the file or application.
>The shape and size of the "open desktop" is altered by clicking
>on and draging the drag box either up, down, side to side, or
>diagonally to desired position. You can alternate between two
>different sizes by clickin on the "size" box by clicking inside
>the smaller of the two squares.

What you refer to as the "Size" box is generally called the "Zoom" box.  The
close box just closes the window on the disk device or folder when you click
it.  If you are inside an application, the close box merely closes the current
document, it does not close the application (with the exception of a few early
applications and desk accessories).  You need to select Quit from the File menu
to close the application.
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From: dsmith@mcis.messiah.edu
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Subject: Toolbook
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:32:16 GMT
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Dean and interested others:

Most college bookstores and computer centers that sell software should be able
to offer excellent academic pricing on Toolbook.  Possibly dealers do as well.
I would check these avenues first.  However, Asymetrix's number is:
(206) 637-1500  (that is, according to the manual).

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Subject: RE: Toolbook
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:37:04 GMT
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Dean Ginther:

To subscribe to the Toolbook discussion list send a message to:

listserv@uafsysb.uark.edu

sub toolb-l Dean Ginther

I don't have Asymetrix's # or address handy...but I know someone on Toolb-l
just asked for the same info so it's a popular question.

I'll check at the office later this week if someone hasn't posted it by then.

Cyndy Krey
New Pathways
clkrey@oa.stkate.edu
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:18:00 EST
From:         zimmer@gw.wmich.edu
Subject:      Re: distance ed

Regarding NAPLPS, it stands for North American Presentation Level
Protocol Syntax.  That's about all I can add to the subject.

W  WWW   WWW  MM   MMM   UU  UUU  U      Roy Zimmer  zimmer@gw.wmich.edu
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:09:27 EST
From:         Tim Neese <neese@spot.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Listserv List

>I am interested in knowing where to FTP to get a list of all available
>listservs on Internet and how to subscribe to them.  Can anyone help me out?

Lynette,

I have found the interest-groups list from ftp.nisc.sri.com cumbersome to
work with because it's so large.  Carol Taylor (ctaylor@du.edu) recently
shared the following information with me about a printed directory:
>
>Here is the print citation on this journal:
>
>Directory of Electronic Journals, Newsletters and Academic Discussion
>Lists
>Compiled by Michael Strangelove and Diane Kovacs
>Kent State University
>Edite by Ann Okerson
>Association of Reserach Libraries
>Association of Research LIbraries
>Washington, DC

>Association of Research Libraries
>Office of Scientific and Academic Publishing
>1527 New Hampshire Avenue, NW
>Washington, DC  20036
>Bitnet:  okerson@umdc
>Internet:  okerson@umdc.umd.edu
>202/232-2466

I think the best resource that I've found for locating lists is the WAIS
server called mailing lists.  It tracks over 6,000 email discussion lists
and news groups.  Best of all, you can search it to find only those lists
and groups that relate to a particular topic.  You should be able to query
with a variety of WAIS software or from just about any Gopher system.

I hope that helps.
Tim

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:17:27 EST
From:         Terry Wolff - Pomona College <TWOLFF@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Listserv List

Lynette,

>I am interested in knowing where to FTP to get a list of all available
>listservs on Internet and how to subscribe to them.  Can anyone help me out?

I use anonymouse ftp to  FTP.NISC.SRI.COM  and get the file
interest.groups from the netinfo directory. There are usually several
versions of this file to be found, so you might want to check the dates
and sizes to get the most current one.

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From:         Wayne Debly <DEBLY@ADMIN.HumberC.ON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Simple/cheap laserdisc control software for PC?

On Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:18:43 EST <dsmith@mcis.messiah.edu> said:
>  Some other boards for the PC compatibles that do a good
>job are the pseudo M-Motion compatible board, the Dynabyte board, OR New Media
>Graphics Super Video Windows board.
 Could you please give us the contacts for these boards.
  Can they be used with Toolbook and Info window interactive packages?

Concerning Podium.  Fred has written the DOS version for M-Motion card
and OS2 version for Actionmedia II board.  I do not think they will work with
other cards.  If anyone has had other experience please let us know.

Thanks for your help

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