HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: FZC@CU.NIH.GOV ("Paul Robinson, Contractor")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Calling 1-800 from U.K.
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:15:46 GMT
Reply-To: TDARCOS@ACCESS.DIGEX.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

User NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet asked for a means
to dial a U.S. 1-800 number from a U.K. telephone.  If the
number was issued by AT&T, you can if the 800 number
company would accept a collect call.

The number from the U.K. to call is 0800 890011
which connects you to the AT&T Operator.  You can ask
her to call the number collect as the charge to call
the number has to be billed either to an AT&T calling
card or as a collect call.

The alternative is, send a message to me at address
TDARCOS@ACCESS.DIGEX.COM, and I will call the number and
ask them what their direct number is.  Or send me your
phone number and I'll ask them to call you.

---
Paul Robinson
These opinions are mine alone
From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: DCL: ? Continuing execution after -?- severity message.
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:11:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	What commands to I need to use to insure that a command  procedure
	doesn't quit running after any warning/error conditions?

	I have a procedure which must run to completion even if one of  the
	commands generates a warning/error condition and at the  beginning I
	have:

	$ ON SEVERE_ERROR THEN CONTINUE

	I thought that would cover them all but the procedure terminated
	prematurely after starting (and completing?) a backup recording pass.

	Do I need to have "ON" traps for each severity level, or should  just
	the highest one catch it?

No; that's a common misconception.  The statement:

	$ ON level THEN trap

means:  If there is an error of severity "level" or greater, execute "trap";
otherwise, ignore the error.  Notice that this definition covers ALL POSSIBLE
severity levels:  Any pre-existing ON statements are effectively overridden.

Your ON statement has ALMOST the effect you want.  The problem with it is that
the action specified by an ON statement is executed only once; then the
default action (ignore warnings, exit on everything else) is reinstated.

The way to have a command procedure completely ignore error conditions is to
use the SET NOON statement.  After SET NOON, DCL ignores the return status
of all commands (within this command procedure only, until the next SET ON).

	Please respond directly to me since I am not subscribed to this list.

Well, I hope you know someone who'll forward this response to you then,
because damned if *I* will.
							-- Jerry
From: F.Zwarts@KVI.NL ("Fred Zwarts, KVI, Groningen, NL.")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Remotely booting VMS.
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:17:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Thomas H. Hopson writes:

> Here is a table that shows which VMS versions
> are supported on which CPUs, along with some explanatory notes which give
> additional information regarding supported hardware and VMS releases.
>
>  MICROVAXEN                                MINIMUM VMS VERSION       NOTES
>  ----------                                -------------------    ---------
>
	(Skipped part of the systems)
>
>  VAXEN                                     MINIMUM VMS VERSION       NOTES
>  -----                                     -------------------    ---------
>  VAX-11/750                                     V2.0
>
>  VAX-11/780                                     V1.5
>
	(Skipped part of the systems)

The first VMS version in this list is V1.5. I was wondering on which machines
VMS V1.0 - V1.4 is supported. Or do you mean that VMS V1.5 is now the first
supported VMS version?
---------

Fred Zwarts	KVI, Groningen, Netherlands	Internet:	F.Zwarts@KVI.nl
Phone:		(+31)50-633619			Telefax:	(+31)50-634003
X400:		C=nl;ADMD=400net;PRMD=surf;O=KVI;S=Zwarts;G=Fred

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gandalf@fnala.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Can DCL programs execute 'other'commands
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:58:16 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov


	Try this, it worked for me


$
$  set message/noident/nosever/nofacil                                       
$  mail                                                                      
   read 1
   read 2
$
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: help: huge index file
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:51:59 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <26JAN199310483026@vtpwr2.psl.ee.vt.edu>, gharpure@vtpwr2.psl.ee.vt.edu (VASUDEV GHARPURE) writes:
>
>	We have a vax cluster, with a VS3100/76 as the boot node, 
>running VMS 5.4-2. The boot node has a 1.0 GB external disk, used for 
>user files.
>
>	I used this disk as a temprory storage for a large number of 
>files, which have since been deleted. But I am left with a huge index 
>file (about 31K blocks). The original file was about 5K blocks.
>
>	How do I get the index file back to normal? What harm does it do 
>if it stays as it is?

To get it back to a smaller size, you do a BACKUP, INITIALIZE, and restore of
the disk.  As to what harm it does, it takes up an extra 26K blocks on your
disk.  Unless you're really short of disk space, there's no need to do anything
about it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:21959 comp.sys.dec:7121 vmsnet.internals:1799
From: cts@dragon.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.internals
Subject: Driver for DRV11-J / DRV1J-SA
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:14:21 EST
Organization: Computer Projects Unlimited

Has anyone out there developed a driver for VMS for a DRV11-J or 
DRV1J-SA they'd be willing to share as an example?
--
Charles Smith
cts@dragon.com
From: sharmp@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: DECps figures -what do they mean?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:02:00 +1100
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

We are running DECps version 1.0 here, and I have a question which no-one here
has been able to answer.  In the table that gives a summary of the top 20
hottest files for each disk with a queue higher than the /HOT_QUEUE value, we
get things like:

DBA_SW_1  (STA204)
  15.9   28.7   39   0 18-11:24   5   (Non Virtual QIO)

and

USER02 ($1$DUA84)
  0.38   0.38   29  49 18-11:14   1   (29728,2,0)

and

SYSTEM ($1$DUS0)
  0.43   0.43    0   0 18-16:24   1   [] .;


What do the last columns mean in each example?


Regards

Peter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Peter Sharman                                                 SHARMP@HHCS.GOV.AU
Aust. Dept Health, Housing and Community Services             06-289 7661
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: TARKA10@SNYBUFVA.BITNET (Mark Tarka)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: SENDing an entire MAIL FOLDER ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:55:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: from SUNY College at Buffalo, NY 14222

I CHECKED:
On-line help
On-line documentation
Local comp center staff

Can I send all 30 messages in a single mail folder to a user at
another node, and if so, how?

Extracting each individually, and appending them into a single file
would work, but I'd lose the directory information from that mail folder
(#, From, Date, Subject).

I could FORWARD each message individually.  But would the message
arriving at the new node contain my address in the "From" field, and the
date of forwarding in the "Date" field?

There are three questions, here.  Help on the doublet or the last
would be appreciated.

As a user, I can't offer much in the way of technical help, but if
anyone has a problem with their newmail count, I have a friend with a
program which will correct the difficulty.

Mark

Mark Tarka  (Addresses valid until 1 April 93; then, bye bye)
tarka10@snybscva.bitnet  vax 6610  vms(5.5-1)  mail(5.0)
tarka10@snybufva.bitnet  vax 6520  vms(5.5-1)  mail(5.0)


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: hamm@mprgate.mpr.ca (Rob Hamm)
Subject: Re: mailboxes with DCL?
Keywords: Carl is wrong , Carl is wrong :-)
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:31:12 GMT

In article <1joq6oINN32k@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:


|> You can't create mailboxes from DCL.  

Bzzzt Wrong  (I've always wanted to do that :-) )

If you had attended the fall decus and had attended "Advanced DCL Hackery" by
Skip Morris you would have learnt  how to.
Apparently Jerry Leichter will tell you the same thing as he has some credit in
the code as well.


|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
|> 
|> Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
|> understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
|> unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
|> organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
|> hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.

-- 
Rob Hamm
MPR Teltech Ltd.
Burnaby B.C. 
Email: hamm@mprgate.mpr.ca

   o
 _/\_>
O,> / O      Go fast, twist the wrist, If it can't be done in DCL ...it's not worth doing.
From: WARNER::DAMBIK@FNAL.FNAL.GOV (Ed Dambik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: How do I use colour under VMS?
Date: 20 Jan 93 16:35:59 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Peter De Rijk writes:
>
>I am working on a C program on a VAXstation. I currently use the Curses library
>for output to terminal or DECterm. I would like to be able to display text in
>different colours (if the terminal supports it). The Curses package under VMS
>does not support colour. Programming in X woul take too much time ( especially
>since I still would have to learn it). Is there another, easy, way to get
>colour. I only need the very basic output commands: put a cursor on specified
>position, and print characters (but in colour).
>Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>
>Peter

ANSI Color is available under SMG using the SMG$M_USER1 through SMG$M_USER8
text attributes. Please note that DEC color terminals do NOT support ANSI
color (only DECTerms and some terminal emulators do). Aside from sending
out your own escape sequences, I'm not certain how you would use color from
curses. The relevant escape sequnce are called SGRs and include:

			<esc>[30m through <esc>[37m

				-or-

			<CSI>30m through <CSI>37m

where 30=Black, 31=Red, 32=Green, 33=Yellow, 34=Blue, 35=Magenta,
      36=Cyan, and 37=White text.

Hope that helps.

    Ed Dambik
    Fermilab, Research Division, EE Dept., Controls Software Group
    HEPnet/SPAN: FNAL::DAMBIK (43009::DAMBIK)
    Internet: DAMBIK@FNAL.FNAL.GOV
    BitNet: DAMBIK@FNAL
    USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/220 Batavia, IL 60510
From: bear@nuc.anu.edu.au (Bernhard Fabricius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Looking for laser-ethernet print symbiont
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:58:43 GMT
Organization: Nuclear Physics, ANU
Distribution: world
Reply-To: BEAR@NUC.ANU.EDU.AU
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.19.47


In article <1jpuh2INNgjq@zephyr.grace.cri.nz>, chrisp@grace.cri.nz writes:

>Has anyone written a print symbiont for laser printers which talks 
>appletalk/ethertalk directly to the ethernet?

Yes - DEC has. It is called Pathworks (VMS) for Macintosh or LANworks for
Macintosh or MSA or...

Anyway, it does what you want - and a lot more. Current version: MSA011.

Cheers


Bernhard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr Bernhard Fabricius              |
Academic VAX/VMS Support           |  "I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
Department of Nuclear Physics      |           and long words Bother me."
Australian National University     |
                                   |                           - A.A. Milne
InterNet: BEAR@NUC.ANU.EDU.AU      |
    POSTMASTER@NUC.ANU.EDU.AU      |
From: HANY@JCSVAX1.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Digest/Index subscribtion
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hi ..
        I would like to ask how can I subscribe to this list in a way that
will let me receive it as a single mail file a day -digest- format ?
Also .. Is there a way that I can get only an index of subjects posted
every day, so that I can choose which ones I would really like to get ?

Thanks for the help.
Hany.

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: clifton@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu (James Clifton)
Subject: Help! UCX TELNET w\ mixed platform env.
Summary: Problem with Telneting to non ULTR*X UN*X box
Keywords: TELNET
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:31:50 GMT

I hope someone can help me:

We have UCX TELNET (v1.3?; release notes are UCX013...) for our local network.
Periodically, I want to log into a STARDENT, which we use for some number
crunching. Don't ask why we have a STARDENT; I'm just a user! The problem is
that the STARDENT uses what I assume is a derivative of 4.3 bsd UN*X: i.e.,
the end-of-line specification is <CR><NULL>. When I telnet and try to use an
editor (EDT+; Boston Computing; similar to VMS EDT) on the Stardent, the
program thinks that the RETURN key is CTRL J (it also thinks CTRL M is CTRL J).
Therefore, I have no way of terminating commands in 'line mode'.

Within telnet, I tried enabling crmod (or disabling crlf). When I do this, the
RETURN key works as it should in line mode, but RETURN now sends <CR><LF> in 
screen mode, which is a greater nuisance. (Output to my screen from the
command level of the STARDENT, such as directory listings, is also delimitated
by <CR><LF> -- i.e., a blank line after each file listed.) 


So my question:

Can I change -within VMS- what is sent by hitting the RETURN key? (I routinely
use VT220 or VT320 terminals). Is there another solution to my problem or am I
S-O-L? (Getting the Multinet package is out of the question.)

When I'm at work, it's no problem to start a new session, but when I've logged
on from home, it's much easier to just telnet to the STARDENT.

Thanks for any assistance,

Jim Clifton
clifton@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to repeat "new Mail message" ?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:56:41 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1jm4nnINN59b@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>, jogl@merry.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#) writes:
=all of us know the "Warning" 'You have 1 new Mail message.' after the
=infos of 'Last interactive' and 'Last non-interactive login'.
=
=because many VMS-Sysops clear the screen for a Mesage-Of-The-Day-Info,
=before the User can enter DCLs at the "$" prompt, i'd like to
=repeat this "Mail"-hint as the LAST Command in my LOGIN.COM.
=How can i do this ?
=
=so, in brief words:
=is there a procedure like "NEW_MAIL.COM" i can call, that repeats
=        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=the 'You have 1 new Mail message.' message ?
=    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=ANY hint is wellcome ...

	$ MAIL
	$ EXIT 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: command procedure calling
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:02:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C1IvCE.H1x
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
Originator: jsue@troon.ncsa.uiuc.edu


|> In article <ERMIMWEI.20@er.ele.tue.nl?>, ERMIMWEI@er.ele.tue.nl (Wim Beckers) writes:
|> >When a command procedure is called by another command procedure  their is 
|> >always a return to the calling command procedure.
|> >Is there a possibility to NOT return to the calling procedure?
|> 

Hmm...

I've always used the $STOP command to completely exit a DCL procedure.
Something like ON CONTROL_Y THEN STOP has proven useful in many
different applications.

-- 
-----
Jeff Sue   
 - All opinions are mine -       (and you can't have any, nya nya nya)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: coar@Nephi.Enet.DEC.Com (Rodent of Unusual Size)
Subject: Re: MAIL problem (NOT newmail count :)
Summary: Sometime it *can* be a queueing system problem
Keywords: queue system, PRINT /DELETE
Organisation: Employed by (*NOT* speaker for) DEC, Boxborough, MA, U.S.A.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:25:01 GMT


In article <1hsrkgINNt6r@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, mgrthh@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu (Thomas H. Hopson) writes...
> 
>In article <1992Dec30.122948.13315@bsu-ucs>, 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum) writes:
> >
>>Hmmm... now that I think of it, I don't use PRINT/DELETE a whole lot... is
>>this something connected with the queueing system and not MAIL?  I don't
>>see anything about PRINT in the docs that would nail it down one way or
>>another.
> 
>It's not a fault of PRINT/DELETE nor of the queueing system.  It's really a
>fault of MAIL for deciding to use a "temporary" file when the possibility
>exists that the file may not be printed and deleted immediately.

    In some not-too-ancient versions of the OpenVMS operating system (back
    when it was the plain VMS name), there was a known problem with files
    entered into the queuing system with /DELETE.  If one file couldn't be
    deleted, it could block the deletion of all subsequent files so marked in
    the queue file.

    I believe this was fixed as part of the Version 5.5 queue system rewrite.
    However, if you're running an older version, be aware that the queue
    system *may* be at fault.  The workaround of stopping and re-starting the
    (pre-V5.5) queue manager would clear it up for a while.  There is a patch
    available that fixes this behaviour.

    Files that are referenced in the queue file are not deleted until the
    queue entry is gone, which means that an entry that was `retained on
    error' (or for any other reason) will not have the corresponding file(s)
    deleted.  This is by design; if you decide to release the job again, it's
    good to keep the files around. ;-)

>Thomas H. Hopson                      work: mgrthh@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu

    #ken    :-)}	Jeratol the Chaotic (KLC31)

Coar@Nephi.Enet.DEC.Com	 | All opinions herein contained, stated or implied,
Coar@DECUS.Org		 | are solely those of the author.  And he's fullovem.
Coar@Eisner.DECUS.Org	 | `... it was mine art, ... that made gape the pine 
Massachusetts, USA       | and let thee out.'  - Prospero (_The Tempest_)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Subject: Re: Where did INFO-VAX/COMP.OS.VMS go ??
Organization: New York University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:36:00 GMT

the traditional fix for this is called a kill file.  the problem is that the 
obvious kills to reduce the flamage also lose a chunk of technical content.
From: OCCHILL@ROWDI.LakeheadU.Ca (Geoff Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Striping and Shadowing
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet



	We are considering buying DEC's disk striping and/or shadowing
	software and would be interested in other people's experiences	
	with these products.   Our VMS environment will probably be
	a VAX 4000/100 with 4 (or possibly 5) SCSI disks.

	1) Disk Striping:
		- how effective in improving disk I/O ?
		- how reliable is it ?
		- How easy is it to install and use ?
		- any disadvantages ?

	2) Volume Shadowing:
		- how effective in improving disk I/O ?
		- how reliable is it ?
		- How easy is it to install and use ?
		- can you have more than one shadow volume ?

	3) Mixture of 1 & 2:
	  
	   If both Disk Striping and Volume Shadowing are installed,
	   e.g. a shadow set of 2 disks is striped across 2 other disks,
		- how easy is this to set up ?
		- would we get improved I/O from shadowed reads *plus*
		  improved I/O from striped reads ? 
	
	Will either of these products work with non-DEC drives ?

	Thanks.

						== Geoff Hill
From: ratel@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Gilles Ratel 8720)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: include file with DW-MOTIF
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:09:16 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

Hello,

  Simple question a propos include file with DECwindows/Motif:

  I have: (system VAX/VMS 5.5-2, compiler VAX-C)

               | $ SHOW LICENSE DW-MOTIF
               |
               | Active licenses on node MV4:
               |
    license => |   DW-MOTIF
	       |   Producer: DEC
	       |   Units: 2510
	       |   Version: 0.0
	       |   Date: (none)
	       |   Termination Date: (none)
	       |   Availability: F (Layered Products)
	       |   Activity: 0  
	       |   MOD_UNITS
               |
               | $ DIR DECW$INCLUDE /COLUMN=1
               |
               | Directory SYS$COMMON:[DECW$INCLUDE]
               |
      files => | COMPOBJ.H;1        
               | COMPOBJP.H;1       
               | COMPOSITE.H;1      
               | COMPOSITEP.H;1     
               | CONSTRAINP.H;1     
               |
               |  ... skip ....
               |
               | XPROTO.H;1         
               | XPROTOSTR.H;1      
               | XRESOURCE.H;1      
               | XUTIL.H;1          
               |
               | Total of 57 files.


  Question: files not present: 
            (i.e. refence CD-ROM, Installation guide, table C-1) 

                  ARROWB.H     ?
                  ARROWBG.H    ?
                  ARROWBGP.H   ?
                  ARROWBP.H    ?
                    ...
                  CASCADEB.H   ?
                  CASCADEBG.H  ?
                   ...and others

             Why not? (installation?, license? ...)

Gilles Ratel
Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec
1800, Montee Sainte-Julie
Varennes, Qc, Canada  J3X 1S1

Email: ratel@ireq-ccfm.hydro.qc.ca