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From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: east coast songs 
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:25:33 GMT

Someone recently posted some songs which they haven't seen on this
tour.  This is all the ones I can find (from 11/19, 11/20, 11/21,
11/23, 11,25, 11/27, 11/28, 12/5, 12/6, 12/7, 12/8, 12/10).

All Things Reconsidered,, Asse Festival, Axis: Bold As Love, Axcilla,
Bathtub Gin, Big Black Furry Creature From Mars, Bouncing Around the
Room, Buffalo Bill, Buried Alive, Carolina in the Morning, Cavern,
Chalkdust Torture, Colonel Forbin's Ascent, Contact, Cracklin' Rosie,
Curtain, David Bowie, Dinner and a Movie, Divided Sky, Esther, Fast
Enough For You, Fee, Fire, Fluffhead, Fluff's Travels, Fly Famous
Mockingbird, Foam, Glide, Golgi Apparatus, Good Times, Bad Times,
Guelah Papyrus, Harpua, Harry Hood, Hold Your Head Up, Honey Love,
Horn, I am Hydrogen, I Don't Care About Anyone Except Myself, I Walk
the Line, It's Ice, Knife, Landlady, Lawn Boy, Lengthwise, Lizards,
Llama, Maze, McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters, Mike's Song,
Memories, Mound, My Sweet One, Oye Como Va, Paul and Silas, Poor
Heart, Possum, Reba, Rift, Rocky Top, Runaway Jim, Run Like an
Antelope, Silent in the Morning, Sleeping Monkey, Sloth, Sparkle,
Split Open and Melt, Squirming Coil, Stash, Suzy Greenburg, Sweet
Adeline, Take the A Train, Tela, Terrapin, The Man Who Stepped Into
Yesterday, Tube, Tweezer, Tweezer Reprise, Uncle Penn, (vibration of
life), You Enjoy Myself, Weekapaug Groove, Weigh, Whipping Post,
Wilson, Windham Hell


I apologize for it not being in list form, it would be much easier to
read.  But that would have taken up about 3 or 4 times as much room.

I would have liked to see Gumbo, AC/DC Bag, Frankenstein, Oh Kee Pah
Ceremony, Swing Low Sweet Chariot, as well as a bunch more.  I'm
surprised I Didn't Know is not on my list.  Did I miss it?  Are there
any other mistakes?

Scott "Purple" Hayes
 
 
 
 



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From: Chip Rollinson <P3TJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Ian McClean's Tree (Attn: Janette Pazer)
Reply-To: P3TJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:31:34 GMT


  Janette,

    You are my branch,
    I am your leaf.

   Sounds like a haiku, anyway I was unable to make out you e-mail address
  after I download the digest with all of the tree information on it.
   Is your address really two lines long?

    Anyway, could you send me an e-mail to figure out the trade?

                     Thanks,   Chip Rollinson "p3tj@cornella.cit.cornell.edu"
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott M Sandler <71271.3721@compuserve.com>
Subject: Spring Tour Info
Reply-To: 71271.3721@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:15:16 GMT


I was reading the requests posted for Spring tour info,
and I saw Shelly's reply that a four month tour is starting
at the end of January...I was just wondering, if anyone
thought that there is a chance of them coming back up north in 
the spring, as in to Toronto...??? 

Also to Al Sodoma: hey Al, by your description you were standing 
right behind me in Toronto!  You may have noticed me, I was with a
big Indian guy with a hooded guru poncho...

Also again to ask if anyone has a copy of the Toronto show,
please leave me email!!!!





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From: John Greene <jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu>
Subject: yeP! party cancelled
Reply-To: jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:24:23 GMT


Hey friends,

  In case you didn't know, the yeP! gig at Amherst 12/19 has been cancelled.
  Stay tuned for more yeP! news.

-- 
-jg (jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Lawrence Fine <lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
Subject: Lyrics ?
Reply-To: lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:08:33 GMT


	Wait a second, how do yew spell yew?, yeu?, ewe? 
And, what does a yew?, yeu,? ewe,? look like?

		just wondering ---JaKeOb 

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Re: OK, this should stop the YEM debate once and for all
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:23:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.072305.5947@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Julie.Strand@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
>All right, it seems that people are *still* in the dark about what they're
>saying in You Enjoy Myself
Scary isn't it?


>This is what they're saying:   "Wash Uffitze drive me to Firenze"
Congratulations!!  You are correct.  It is funny that this thread still
continues.... this was posted a year ago, but somehow it just keeps
coming up.  


>BTW, when I asked him if that wAs what they were actually saying in the
>song last spring, hee got this sort of shocked look on his face and
>said, "Yeah, wow, you're the first person who's ever gotten that right"
>so I think that he probably wasn't bullshitting.
Heh!  


>I hope this stops any confusion.
I'm sure it did, but $10 says someone else will ask what the lyrics are
before 1993.  Any takers?


>Julie

-jg (jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu) [Phish Computer Guy]
"What?  There's a problem with the program again?"
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: betteb@rpi.edu
Subject: ???????
Reply-To: betteb@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:52:31 GMT


	Well in the words of Ed (or was it Bartles), "thank you for your
support".  I've gotten some great mail from folks who supported my defense of
the whole Greek schpiel.  Thanks, guys.  

	Also, I forget who asked, but a "EWE" is a female sheep.




							later,

							brian b.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Julie.Strand@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: OK, this should stop the YEM debate once and for all
Reply-To: Julie.Strand@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:23:05 GMT

All right, it seems that people are *still* in the dark about what they're
saying in You Enjoy Myself, so here it is, straight from the horse's
mouth (Jon Fishman) as he told me last May.
(BTW, I just talked to him a bunch last Friday again when he was here
in Ann Arbor and confirmed it once again)
 
This is what they're saying:   "Wash Uffitze drive me to Firenze"
 
Apparantly this was written when they were travelling around Europe
(not touring, just hanging out) and they were in Italy.
Uffitze is an art museum in Italy, and Firenze is a town.  Whether or
not Uffitze is in Firenze, I don't know, but that is what it is.
 
I asked him what it means and he said it doesn't really mean anything.
It just sort of arose out of general silliness and goofing around so
they decided to make a song out of it.
 
If you listen closely to the CDof Junta, you'll see that it's really
not as hard as you thought it was to understand what they're saying
once you already know.
 
BTW, when I asked him if that wAs what they were actually saying in the
song last spring, hee got this sort of shocked look on his face and
said, "Yeah, wow, you're the first person who's ever gotten that right"
so I think that he probably wasn't bullshitting.
 
I hope this stops any confusion.
 
Julie
From: v134lskm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy G Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Cavern
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Summary:  
Date: 14 Dec 1992 14:31 EST  
Distribution: world
Keywords:  

I Have or rather had a boot which said "Colorado 1990 set II" on the label.
Cavern (I think that is the song I'm thinking of I Haven't listened to
PON in a long time) was listed as Penile Erector. I even heard different
lyrics on the refrain at the end -something along the lines of --

  "give the director a penile erector,... a vision of Mecca...etc."

Was this the original version or some silly Cognitive Psych trick played upon
me by some irresponisible taper.

Please don't screamm at me if this is in the FAQ, I'm fragile.

LOVE
Peter Lorre
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: betteb@rpi.edu
Subject: EWES
Reply-To: betteb@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:21:01 GMT


	Correct me if I'm wrong, but a ewe is a FEMALE sheep, not a baby sheep.
Last time I checked, a baby sheep was still called a LAMB in most parts of
the world.  God I love pointless debates.  (seriously).


			peace, love, and corn flakes

				brian b.
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From: PIMBRES1%ITHACA.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: Axilla Lyrics!!!
Reply-To: PIMBRES1%ITHACA.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:24:55 GMT

Hey Pholks,
  Here are lyrics to the new Trey song Axilla.  Tom Marshall sent this to me
yesterday so you can count on it being right. Here goes:
Axilla (Marshall/Anastasio/ ? )

I dropped the buzzard in the sand and trudged off slowly toward the town,
I needed dinner and a place where I could throw my weight around,
I detected faint axilla sent that put me off my appetite,
But mouflon warring where I went renewed in me a need to fight,
Then revelling in mirror mask I soon was lost in foggy ditch,
Without a feather grey or white to tickle that piano witch,
Fearing that I must expose my worm to holographic haze,
My Clinometer error rose and spawned in her new mawkish ways,
I woke the witch with reverence reserved for serpents, snails, and slugs,
I pulled the witch from out the ditch and turned to face the furry thugs,
The sheep they smiled with teeth agleam,
The weapons in their hooves revolved I detected a prostatic ream,
I gulped and felt my loins dissolve!!!!!!!!!

 ^^^That should be it (Except for the"Axilla, Axilla!!!" ending)
    Correct me if I screwed anything up Tom
      Peace Love and Chalkdust!!!
         Peeta
 ............I gulped and felt my loins dissolve!!!!!!!..........
From: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Personals:J.Claiborn,NCross,JDharris(Dave)
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:00:30 GMT
Reply-To: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Organization: The Internet

I cannot remember if we were going to keep our own cases or not. It does 
not save postage, but who likes broken cases. We are all using Maxell 
XLII's right. This way I send you just the cassette with attached setlist, 
and you do the same to me. This way no damaged cassette holders. Let me 
know either way, I have already sent each of you the trade finalization 
message, read that and respond about both that message as well as telling 
me whether or not you want the cases sent or to keep them and trade the 
cassettes themselves. Thanxxx PHISH ON!!!!!-Colin
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: MARKUS BRAKHAN <71201.1016@compuserve.com>
Subject: Rift Single
Reply-To: 71201.1016@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:55:52 GMT

 WIZN FM, Burlington music director Mike Luoma reports that "Fast
Enough for You" has been chosen as the first single from the upcoming
album "Rift." No word on the B-side.
 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
MARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUSMARKUS


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From: Jeff Maggard 16-Dec-1992 1442 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com>
Subject: YEM Lyrics ???
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:37:27 GMT


Hey, does anybody know the lyrics to YEM?

;-)

- jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Ed Craig <CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: You know you're gettin old when...
Reply-To: CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:52:07 GMT

    I knew I was getting old, but when I realized that there are people
who don't recognize a reference to "Jimi" and that I can honestly say
that my first concert was seeing the Jimi Hendrix experience at the
Lewiston (ME) Armory.
    As was so often the case in those technologically primitive days,
the PA died, for which Jimi kept apologizing, but not many minded as
we were there for the guitar. And here for those of you ranking on
clueless newbies, one of my (very few) clear memories; a guy screaming
over and over for "Blue Haze", before, during and after "Purple Haze".
Yes, Jimi did use startling body parts for bottlenecking (though he kept
his fly closed) not to mention picking with his teeth, and he did encore
with "(Let Me Stand Next to Your) Fire" complete with guitar flambe
(recipe: douse guitar liberally with lighter fluid, apply match, kneel
and pray over it. It makes amazing sounds).
    Oh well, getting old beats the alternative.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Edward Craig                                         CRAIG@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
My opinions and M.I.T.'s occasionally coincide. Occasionally they don't.
    Neither of us worries about it.
    "We are forces of chaos and anarchy.
         Everything they say we are... We are...
              And we are very proud of ourselves!"
                                       Paul Kantnor
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Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo)
Subject: Re: Solo Cecil (was Re: akisakila, by c.t.)
Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:44:29 GMT

> John Thomas <jgthomas@bnr.ca>              :
> BTW, what is the net consensus on "best" solo, recorded
> performance by C.T.?

My vote is for SILENT TONGUES, with SPRING OF TWO BLUE-Js a close
second, followed by AIR ABOVE MOUNTAINS (BLUILDINGS WITHIN).

Taylor, Cecil                                              Unit Core 30551 (LP)
Title: Spring of Two Blue-J's
Recorded: 11/4/1973 at Town Hall, New York, NY
Released: 1974
With: Cecil Taylor (leader), Piano
      Jimmy Lyons, Alto Sax (on 2)
      Sirone, Bass (on 2)
      Andrew Cyrille, Drums (on 2)
Contents: 1) Spring of Two Blue-J's Part 1                             ( 16:19)
          2) Sprint of Two Blue-J's Part 2                             ( 21:29)
          Total:                                                       ( 37:48)
Purchased: No Date
Comments: The concert was dedicated to the memory of Ben Webster, who had
just died

Taylor, Cecil                                       Arista-Freedom AL 1005 (LP)
Title: Silent Tongues
Recorded: 7/2/1974 at Montreux Jazz Festival, Montreux, Switzerland
Released: 1975
With: Cecil Taylor (leader), Piano
Contents: 1) Abyss (First Movement) / Petals & Filaments (Second       ( 18:06)
          Movement) / Jitney (Third Movement)
          2) Crossing (Fourth Movement) Part One                       ( 08:30)
          3) Crossing (Fourth Movement) Part Two                       ( 10:00)
          4) After All (Fifth Movement)                                ( 09:32)
          5) Jitney No. 2                                              ( 03:25)
          6) After All No. 2                                           ( 02:30)
          Total:                                                       ( 52:03)
Purchased: 1981

Taylor, Cecil                                              Inner City 3021 (LP)
Title: Air Above Mountains (Buildings Within)
Recorded: 8/20/1976 at Moosham Castle Open-Air Festival, Austria
Released: 1978
With: Cecil Taylor (leader), Piano
Contents: 1) Air Above Mountains (Buildings Within) Part One           ( 25:40)
          2) Air Above Mountains (Buildings Within) Part Two           ( 25:37)
          Total:                                                       ( 51:17)
Purchased: 1982


-- 
Marcel-Franck Simon             	mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus

	" Papa Loko, ou se' van, ou-a pouse'-n ale'
	  Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe' "
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wassermn@ariel.chem.yale.edu (Thierry A. W. Wasserman)
Subject: World Sax Quartet ?
Organization: Yale University, New Haven
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:58:44 GMT

I just bought a CD of the World Jazz Quartet playing ellington
and simply found it amazing. I love jazz being played with no 
traditional rythm section. reminded me somehow of 'news for lulu'
by john zorn etc... .

	Any recommendations of what other CD's of the WSQ to
buy, i read that steppin' was good but i can't seem to find it
in my local CD stores (or CADENCE).

	I've seen the newsletter(?) ICE mentioned a few time
what is it and where can i get it?

	Any reccomendations for john zorn records?
I loved voodoo and news for lulu. somehow enjoy naked city
but cannot stand his spy vs. spy album (what the hell is that?).
is 'more news for lulu' worth buying?

	thanx for any replies,
			i'm not looking at this newsgroup
	so often so any e-mail would be apreciated.

		T.
	
-- 
Thierry A.W. Wasserman		"wassermn@ariel.chem.yale.edu"
Department of chemistry		"WASTHIA@YALEVM"
Yale University		 
New haven, CT	    @Opinions expressed above are MINE, Yale corp. disagrees.@
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Subject: Re: Improvised music in Oakland
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:33:22 PST
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: world

Dan Plonsey:
> Followers of improvised music in Oakland and beyond may be saddened
> to learn that the Heinz Afterworld Lounge is no longer going to
> have music.

AAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

(However, I'm happy to report that several San Francisco venues have
started to have improvised music. Radio Valencia at 23rd and Valencia
hosted the Raphe Malik/Glenn Spearman/Lisle Ellis trio for two weekends,
and ths Splatter Trio has been playing there occasionally. Brave New
World has also done some improv shows.)

Bill
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From: acp@owlnet.rice.edu (Adrian C Penisson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Lyrics to "Meet de Boys on the Battlefront"
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:40:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University


I'm pretty sure that the following corrections should be made.

In article <malcolm.724033533@wrs.com>, malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
......
|> I'm an indian ruler from the thirty more
 				^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 				thirteenth ward				
 
......
|> third sifahuna of all before
|> I walk through fire and I smell through mud  
|> snagged the feathers from an eagle draped pants of blood
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                      drank panther blood	
......

-- 
Adrian C. Penisson
From: saul+@pitt.edu (Alan B Saul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Questions about Booker Little records
Keywords: Booker Little, Donald Byrd
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:45:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Does anybody have any discographical information about these mystery tcb Booker
Little records?

tcb 1003: booker little/booker ervin
sounds of inner city
Souchie, Cycles, Stardust, The Confined Few, Blues de Tambour, Witch Fire

tcb 1004: Donald Byrd/Booker Little, with Curtis Fuller, Bill Evans, Paul
Chambers, Armando Perazo, Philly Joe Jones, Willie Rodriguez
The Third World
Chasing the Bird, Prophecy, Ping Pong, Construction, Quiet Temple, November
Afternoon, Call to Arms, Wee Tina

I may have asked about this awhile back, but don't remember hearing anything
about it. I've had 1003 for many years, and it is not only one of my favorite
records but my wife even loves it. 1004 is relatively new to me. The
instrumentation varies a lot from track to track, but tends to feature a lot of
vibes. Who is this? There is also some uncredited tenor and baritone work
occasionally. Is Perazo on 1003 as well? Dates? Any info much appreciated.

Alan Saul
saul@unixd.cis.pitt.edu
From: dd09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DOST CAN DENIZ)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: John Scofield
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:51:25 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec16.143928.9677@oracle.us.oracle.com>, edansker@oracle.uucp (E
dward Dansker) writes:
>I recently caught the John Scofield Quartet at Sweet Basil's in NYC.  This guy
>cooks!  I'm looking for recommendations on Scofield albums - anybody care to
>mention their favorites?
>
>Ed
>
I would definitely suggest going for "Grace Under Pressure" before anything.
Also I like his recordings with Miles Davis. And also he has a very good
concert album, but I do not remember the name right now.
-- 

Pennsylvania Fatihi ve de Muhtari
Sultan VII. Dosse
Pad-i Sah ul alem-un cumle mahlukat keza memlukat
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Solo Cecil (was Re: akisakila, by c.t.)
Reply-To: John Thomas <jgthomas@bnr.ca>              
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:54:39 GMT

In article <tjg8kmc@zola.esd.sgi.com>, sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz) writes:
|> 
|> In article <Bz8K1F.BJG.1@cs.cmu.edu>, tygar+@cs.cmu.edu writes:
|> > In article <1992Dec13.1561.8105@channel1> "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com> writes:
|> > >the Konnex CD reissue of _Akisakila_ contains a half-hour of "Lono,"
|> > That's true, but note that the release is on two of CDs!  (Akisakila
|> > is 82 minutes long and thus requires two CDs.)
|> 
|> =-=-=-=-
|> Actually, it is possible to put 84 minutes on a CD, right?
|> Not that I'm complaining about these disks.  
|> 
|> It's a good month for Cecil fans- Enja just released "Air Above Mountains" on CD.  
|> The CD version contains the whole concert- ~76 minutes.
|> =-s
|> 

Is "Air Above Mountains" a solo concert?

BTW, what is the net consensus on "best" solo, recorded
performance by C.T.?

I know I like LOOKING (SOLO) on FMP a lot...

ps I no longer reside in the outer reaches of no subdomain (see reply-to)

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gnaa38@udcf.gla.ac.uk (Paul Porcelli)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Pat Metheny in Europe?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:53:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Does anyone know if Pat Metheny is touring in Europe, or better still in the UK in '93.
Thanks a lot
Paul Porcelli
e-mail : gnaa38@uk.ac.gla.udcf
From: gel@sys.uea.ac.uk (Gareth Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Mingus tribute (Re: While I was out...)
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:55:31 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella) writes:

>Vincent E. Kargatis (vek@spacsun.rice.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: Well there are about 14 cuts on it, I think, but the CD is 74+ minutes or
>: so. That mechanical licensing fee is *per unit*??? It's hard to believe
>: that any album using non-original music could make a profit!

>Getting out the back of a new envelope, I calculate $3 manufacturing, $1

I think you overstimated production costs??

>licensing, $1 royalies, $1 distribution, $1 amortization, for a total of $7 per
>unit actual cost to produce.  I really doubt that Hat Hut is making $4 per CD
>on this.  Most likely, I have seriously underestimated distribution and
>amortization costs.  On the other hand, 40-45% markup is probably about on a
>par with other types of businesses.  There are other more or less fixed costs
>that must be paid, like salaries, such that this amount of markup may well
>translate into your basic 8% profit.

>: Well, my "Hmm..." was actually far more innocent than you probably took.

>Perhaps, but other respondents used the word "screwed".  I happened to respond
>to your posting because you started the monetary breakdown.

The going rate for UK released CDs is 13-14 pounds ($20+).  You think *you're*
being conned?  Record companies charge what they think the punters will pay!!
The only people who suffer are the serious music fans who buy a steady stream
of releases (ie. who should be the record companies' good customers).

Someone's making a whole lot of money out of this and I'm pretty sure it
isn't the artists!!

Gareth Lee.
From: rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Ron Carter plays Bach?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:27:28 GMT
Reply-To: rons@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


	I just saw at the station that I am a DJ at a new CD from Blue
Note called "Ron Carter Plays Bach". I did not get a chance to listen
to it, although I expect that it is good. There seemed to be a diverse
selection of material from Bach on it, and I think it was solo
performances.

	Good luck,

	Josh Ronsen
	rons@midway.uchicago.edu