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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: NeXT UUCP mail hosts help!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:06:55 GMT

How in the bloody world do you set up a list of UUCP 'hosts' in order to send  
UUCP mail??  I'm currently on Internet, and trying to set up a UUCP local  
access port.  I have a netinfo network, and the one machine that has the modem  
can 'sometimes' mail to the uucp folks, but no other machine anywhere can reach  
them.  I try both the user@host.uucp and host!user form of address, but both  
fail.  I've studied the sendmail.cf file, and it seems to fail at the point of  
handing the mail off to UUCP.  I have nothing in netinfo for the uucp hosts  
(where?) and sop there's no surprise no other machines have heard of them.
I think I need a uucp `map' file installed somewhere, or something like it.

Any ideas at all?  I'm being embarrassed by an Amiga system that's doing all  
this without a hitch!

Thanks,
Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: warren@apl.washington.edu (Warren L. J. Fox)
Subject: Remote access of fax modems
Reply-To: warren@apl.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:10:39 GMT

I couldn't find anything about this in NextAnswers or the
FAQ, but hopefully someone out there has tried this before. 
We have several NeXTs that are not configured in a NetInfo
network.  We would like to be able to use the fax modem that is on
one of the machines remotely from the other machines.  We can
do this with printers, but I haven't been able to figure out
what I need to tweak so that we can also do this with fax modems. 
Anyone have an answer?  Thanks in advance!! 

--
Warren L. J. Fox , E-mail: warren@apl.washington.edu
Applied Physics Laboratory, University of Washington
(206) 543-1300 or (206) 685-2125
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: 3.0 Upgrade Problems: help!
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:22:45 GMT


(Sigh.)

I upgraded my slab yesterday and I am having a few problems.

First a word of advice: when you do the upgrade, and the
Upgrade_3.0.app gets to the point where it says "running
postprocessing script", DON'T TOUCH WORKSPACE!

I inadvertently did so and hung the machine pretty bad.
(I had to "mon" out from the nmi monitor - halt wouldn't work.)

Now my UpradeLog is missing some stuff. I have everything up to and
including the line:
> Upgrade complete at Mon Sep 14 14:20:04 1992

but am missing this:
(taken from another machine's UpgradeLog)
> Updating NetInfo database local.nidb:
>     Updating user accounts...18 accounts
>     Creating /locations/renderers...
>     Updating /rpcs...
>     Removing decode alias...
>     Creating /localconfig...
> NetInfo changes complete. Checking sizes for languages...
> Languages require 11462K, and 7809K are available.
> There isn't enough space to install all the languages.
> Checking size for English help...
> English help requires 3722K, and 7809K are available.
> Installing English help...
> Postprocessing complete at Tue Sep 15 12:56:58 GMT-0400 1992
> Upgrade complete.
> 

I have noticed some odd behavior. For example, my print panels don't
include the LocalPrinter hooked up to my NeXT anymore
(although nppower still works).

So, is there anyway I can run the postprocessing script without
actually restarting the upgrade? I tried to peek inside
Upgrade_3.0.app to see if I could find the "script" but didn't
find it.

If I can't do this, I'll have to start over by first restoring
my drive to 2.1 from my backup and redo the entire upgrade.
A rather unpleasant proposition...

Help!
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MacNUG president                      | *NeXTmail encouraged* 
graduate student, McMaster university | Je ne suis pas infaillible.
Physics and astronomy dep.            | Vive le Quebec LIBRE!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Subject: "remote debugging enabled"?
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:55:21 GMT

When I boot my NeXT from the console I get the message
"remote debugging enabled". What does this mean?
Is it a security hole?

--
Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening                                                     
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation                          
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet                                             
Obere Zahlbacher Strasse 69, W-6500 Mainz                                                                    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Chances of a 3.1 (was: Re: 3.0 SimpleNetworkStarter)
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:54:03 GMT

J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes
[a bunch of stuff that really belongs in c.s.n.advocacy]

Sorry I can't retract the article to which this is a followup...I'm  
redirecting followups to c.s.n.advocacy though.
--
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- no NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Firewalls and network security.
Reply-To: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:22:04 GMT

I'm about to start setting up a firewall to keep out internal network secure  
while still maintaining connectivity with the outside world.  I've already  
got the book "Practical Unix Security" on order, but would like any other  
pointers to guides or other useful bits of information that are available.

Also, are there any "tricks" to setting a secure system up on a NeXT, as  
opposed to any other kind of UNIX system?  I can't think of any reasons why  
it would be more difficult off the top of my head, but you never know....

	Thanks in advance,
		John Feiler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: Re: NeXT Remote Power Up/Down?
Reply-To: alberto@parsec.uucp
Organization: I keep everything where I <most likely> can find it.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:00:34 GMT

In article <Btywsz.953@suite.com> Mark-Tarbell@suite.com writes:
> In article <BtxEHp.JIA@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David  
> Lemson) writes:
> > eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
> > 
> > >You know the "Printing" panel that pops up when your NeXT Laser
> > >Printer runs out of paper?  That's done by a handy little program
> > >called /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Inform.  It turns out that Inform can
> > >display any message of your choosing:
> > 
> > >a general-purpose notification service.  (Hmm... you can probably
> > >replace the "PrinterAlert" nib section with whatever you want.)
> > 
> > You sure can, I just did it in about 25 seconds... makes a great app
> > to pop up on all the machines in the lab when there is going to be a
> > system shutdown!
> 
> Note that you can't do this under 3.0. Enjoy it while you can.

But you could hack your own. After all this "seems" to be a fairly
easy thing to do, 10 sec. code:

/*
 *     Generated by the NeXT Interface Builder. Rename the binary with the 
 *     .daemon extension (to avoid a miniwindow from being created).
 */

#import <stdlib.h>
#import <appkit/Application.h>

void main(int argc, char *argv[]) {

	// Do a run through the argument vector and switch it
	// (the most time cosuming thing in this program.
	// Don't forget to exit if argc == 0.
	
    NXApp = [Application new];
	
	// Substitute the above messages by the strings gotten from the
	// Argument vector.

	NXRunAlertPanel(NULL, "A Panic has just occured!","Power Off",  
"Halt","Reboot");
    [NXApp free];
    exit(0);
}
-- 
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Subject: Re: uucp "permission denied"
Reply-To: robin@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:40:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.195150.4459@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG> bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG  
writes:
> pete@othello.dartmouth.edu (Pete Schmitt) writes:
> : Trying to use the uucp command to send a file to another
> : system over a modem, and I keep getting permission denied error, even
> : if the file is set to mode 777.  What am I doing wrong?
> : 
> 
> I believe you'll find that sends from a directory accessable to both uucp
> and the file's owner will work.  Perhaps /usr/spool/uucppublic ?  The mode  
of 
> the directory was likely NOT set to 777 in your testing (and at least an  
execute
> permission to uucp for all above it in the tree-path as specified).
> 

On the contrary, I would bet this is caused by the shell.

I had this exact same problem, and the solution I ended up with was to quote  
the source and target files.  Like so:

uucp "localfile" "remotemachine!...!file"

Best I could figure out, it has to do with the shell assigning some value to  
the "!" character in the address.  (Since I came from the HDB UUCP  
environment to the NeXT, and I had been using 'ksh' prior to the NeXT, the  
"!" having a special meaning to my shell (or UUCP) had not affected me beofre  
- took me a week to figure it out.)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Subject: Re: Rebooting (was Re: help! /private/vm/swapfile 44MB. How to shrink it?)
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
	<1992Sep7.215151.2517@metrosoft.com>
	<1992Sep8.105655.712@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:57:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.105655.712@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
   In article <1992Sep7.215151.2517@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) writes:
      In article <1992Sep7.041747.10597@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw> jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
         (reboot is the last solution I want)

      It's the last solution we ALL want, but alas the only solution
      we have...

   what is so all-fired awful about rebooting a computer?

Even if it's not a server that affects dozens of users, it's
inconvenient to the individual who has lots of windows open.  

   "This thing could stop dead in its tracks at any second, without
   warning.  Am I in the best possible position for this unhappy event
   right now?  If not, get right with the Lord of Silicon!"

Even if none of the applications have unsaved work, their presence
(and even the location, iconification, and overlapping arrangement of
the windows) is a useful state-saver.  When I hang up from a phone
call, I use my window stack to remind myself what I was doing before
the interruption.  If the system reboots, all that state is lost.

   But booting, especially in the standalone or tiny network case,
   takes a couple minutes at most and is a whole lot better than
   sitting and listening to your disk seek its fool heads off while
   you twiddle your toes waiting for a cursor position update.

An ever-growing swap file is a bug that no user should tolerate, and
that any vendor should be embarassed to let out the door, even on its
first limited-circulation alpha prerelease of a new OS version.
Frequent rebooting is not an acceptable solution to an OS bug.

   Besides, there's sysadmin machismo to be considered, right?  We're
   supposed to be the masters of it all, eating disasters for a light
   lunch and all that.

Where's the machismo in rebooting a PC on steroids, with a key labeled
"Power" on the keyboard?  I bump it half the times I go groping for
the "~" or "\" keys.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scotty@gagetalker.com (Scott Turner)
Subject: Re: Use of DOS CD-ROMs through Networked OS/2
Organization: L5 Computing
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.024601.24738@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com  
(Irving_Wolfe) writes:
|> Our solution -- which worked, hence this posting -- was to get OS/2
|> and its NFS-TCP/IP add-on and a ethernet card for the PC.  Since
|> IBM's OS/2 can emulate both DOS and Windows, as well as running in
|> normal mode as a real operating system, this had turned out to be
|> an inexpensive and robust solution to our problem.  I suspect it
|> may be a reasonable way of dealing with lots of other situations as
|> well, and most of us have a suitable machine sitting around or can
|> acquire one at little cost.
This may seem like a silly question but, what???

If you are using NFS to mount the CD-ROM from the OS/2 machine to a NeXT
machine, why couldn't you just mount the CD-ROM on a NeXT and then use 
SoftPC's "net use" command to create a drive letter for it? I do this with
several CD-ROM titles (and thanks to Netware under 3.0 I can even "net use"
CD-ROMs shared via SCSI Express on the Novell file server.)

If you were planning on running a program on the OS/2 machine to gain access
to the disc, then perhaps Desqview/X might work better. This would allow you
to run X on the NeXT to access graphical CD-ROM access software on the DOS
box. I haven't seen such a product for OS/2 (yet)...

Scotty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson)
Subject: Re: changing login tiff --- where is it in 3.0 ?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:22:40 CDT

In article <1992Sep8.205020.11252@menudo.uh.edu>
sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
>What surprises me is that noone uses the /etc/ttys file.  No need to dwrite to
>the defaults database (which gets hosed every so often...)
 
Yes, I felt the same way until recently when I tried to specify ALL
the loginwindow options via the ttys file.  There seems to be some
limit on the length of that options string, around 128 characters.  I
didn't properly investigate it, since there was an alternative.  I
simply specify at least the LoginHook in ttys, then in the LoginHook
program dwrite the other options.  The LoginHook runs as root and
propagates any change throughough the network.
 
Another thing I do with LoginHook is create a standard user home
directory if it doesn't exist.  This saves allocating 300K per user
until they actually login.  Modify nu.cf or nulib/nu1.sh &
nulib/nu2.sh to not allocate home dirs.  This is particularly useful
since we purge most user homes anyway at the end of each semester,
as part of standard policy.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.sysadmin:5104 comp.sys.next.misc:19459
From: ccastc2@prism.gatech.EDU (Benjamin H. Cowan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Disabling the power button
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:59:25 GMT
Reply-To: ccastc2@prism.gatech.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  I don't normally read this group and what I need may be in the FAQ (if it
exists), but I'd appreciate a little info.  I've just help install a room
full of NeXTs that will be online for public use at Tech.  I was wondering
if there was a way to configure the power button in the software so that it
will not work.  If so, then how can one power it off without unplugging it?

Thanx much,
Ben...

================================================================================
Benjamin H. Cowan                           ||   Sex is not the answer.
Georgia Tech...  Atlanta, Georgia  30332    ||   Sex is the question.
Reply-To: ccastc2@prism.gatech.edu          ||   "YES" is the answer.
================================================================================
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to backup to a tapedrive on a Sun?  rdump?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 05:59:42 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Sep15.001822.22867@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
>Run to your nearest archive site, and get gnutar.  It  
>allows things like:
>gnutar -cf sunflower:/dev/rmt12 ...

In 3.0 PR2, gnutar 1.10 is in /usr/bin, so I assume it is in the 3.0 release.
-- 

Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515
From: bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: New NeXTstation Turbo Color with NeXTstep 3.0
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:12:11 GMT
Reply-To: bpja@codex.com.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd

In article <1992Sep11.163307.25785@newsgate.sps.mot.com> reed@prism.sps.mot.com  
(Tim Reed) writes:
> We just received a new NeXTstation Turbo Color machine with  
> NeXTstep3.0 installed. I haven't turned it on yet because I was  
> wondering if there are any problems to look for when starting a new  
> machine (like this one) on a NetInfo network of other machines that  
> are at NeXTstep2.x? No Network and System Administration manual came  
> with the new machine and the User's manual doesn't even mention a  
> NetInfo network, it only mentions NetWare. I assume that it is  
> totally compatable with the present NetInfo network. Am I correct?  
> Any other comments or suggestions are welcome.
> 


Absolutely 100% NetInfo compatible. Won't hurt anything that I know of.
(Having examined the NetInfo source code, I feel confident in saying this!)

regards,

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
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NeXTMail: bpja@codex.oz.au                  AppleLink: AUST0335
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
Subject: Re: Help!  No Login Screen
Reply-To: suite!tarbell@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Suite Software, Anaheim CA.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:20:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.001221.22640@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> Login can't find something, probably a font.  Make sure  
> that /NextLibrary/Fonts exists, is readable, and has the  

Note also that if the nextlogin.tiff file is messed up, it
won't be displayed. You can do this with Icon pretty easily.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: looking for vmstat equivalent
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:43:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: vmstat

> On SunOS 4.1.2, there's an utility called 'vmstat' which
> reports virtual memory statistics. 
> Is there such an utility on NeXT?

Try vm_stat:

Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 8192 bytes)
Pages free:                      154.
Pages active:                   1518.
Pages inactive:                 1057.
Pages wired down:                219.
"Translation faults":        2742121.
Pages copy-on-write:         1353584.
Pages zero filled:             12310.
Pages reactivated:             22067.
Pageins:                        4210.
Pageouts:                       1043.
Object cache: 6637 hits of 7869 lookups (84% hit rate)

Blake
From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mounting a MS-DOS floppy
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:03:37 GMT
Reply-To: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Organization: Simson Garfinkel and Associates, Inc.

In article <PPOH.92Sep10095358@amethyst.tcs.tufts.edu>  
ppoh@amethyst.tcs.tufts.edu (Paul B. Poh) writes:
> 
> I am correct in assuming that there is no way of mounting an MS-DOS floppy
> in a NeXT. ex. "mount -t pcfs /dev/fd0a /DOS" like on a Sun. NeXT's docs
> seem to indicate that by putting a MS-DOS formatted disk into the drive a
> folder named DOS will appear in the root folder. But I don't see a
> directory named /DOS.
> 
> Anyone know how I can read a MS-DOS disk on a NeXT if I'm not at the
> console or if I'm not running the NeXT window manager.
> 

altos> /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/DOS.util
usage: /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/DOS.util action device [[mount_point] removable  
writable]
action:
       -p (Probe)
       -m (Mount)
       -i (Initialize)
       -r (Repair)
       -u (Unmount)
altos> 
-- 

................................................................simson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Subject: Re: Disabling the power button
Organization: Universitaet Koblenz (FB Informatik)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:10:43 GMT

In article <67930@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccastc2@prism.gatech.EDU (Benjamin H.  
Cowan) writes:
> 
>   I don't normally read this group and what I need may be in the FAQ (if it
> exists), but I'd appreciate a little info.  I've just help install a room
> full of NeXTs that will be online for public use at Tech.  I was wondering
> if there was a way to configure the power button in the software so that it
> will not work.  If so, then how can one power it off without unplugging it?

login as root. Type:
	dwrite loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES

here is NeXTanswer workspace.333 for further answers:
---
loginwindow PowerOffDisabled power off power down

Q: I set the PowerOffDisabled default of loginwindow to Yes to disable to 
   the power key, but it doesn't seem to work  When I hit the Power key, the
   Workspace Manager still gives me the power-off alert, and the machine will
   still power down if I confirm.

A: You need to change the default value of PowerOffDisabled for root, not 
   yourself. Note that with this done, you will still get the power-off
   alert from WSM, and if you confirm, you will still be logged off.  But,
   the machine won't power down; you'll instead find yourself
   at the login window.  

Q: Assuming I get PowerOffDisabled working, how do I power down the machine?

A: The PowerOffDisabled default simply changes what the loginwindow does when
   the user tries to power down the machine by hitting the power key when 
   either the login window or WSM is up.  At other times, like when you are in 
   the console or at the NeXT prompt, you can still use the power key to
   turn the machine off. 
   
QA333

Valid for 1.0
Valid for 2.0

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Universitaet Koblenz,                  |       (NeXTmail ok)
Institut fuer Informatik               | Voice: +49 261 9119-421
Rheinau 3-4, D-5400 Koblenz, Germany   | Fax:   +49 261 9119-499
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scott@corybant.rmnug.org  (Scott Meyer)
Subject: Re: looking for vmstat equivalent
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:50:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.083444.12376@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw>  
jypai@ccnext.csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
> On SunOS 4.1.2, there's an utility called 'vmstat' which  reports virtual  
> memory statistics. 
> Is there such an utility on NeXT?
> I've checked NeXT's electronic
> NeXT User manual
> UNIX Manual Pages
> FAQ
> NeXTAnswer.
> But didn't find anything about 'vmstat'.

Try vm_stat.

-Scott
-- 
Scott Meyer
scott@corybant.rmNUG.ORG - NeXT mail is welcome.