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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The depth of Right wing BS
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Date: 22 Jul 92 09:33:25 PST
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In article <1992Jul22.083139.13370@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
> alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
>
> >In article <mykes.09de@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>
> >>Yes, 4 more years.  The price of gold went up $5 today on the
> >>latest polling data.
>
> >	Keep your day job mike, the financial markets can wait for your
> >talents. Gold is indeed up, as it has been climbing for some time,
>
> Climbing?   Last time I bought some it was $430 or so, a few years ago.
> Last time I checked it was $360 or so, a few months ago.   Do you mean
> "for some time" as in recent weeks, which is meaningless, or "for some
> time" as in the last 50 years, which would certianly make your statement
> true?   Gold is not a good investment unless you plan (and are able to)
> to hold on during the price dips like the one of recent years.
>

When did you buy gold at $430.  A few years ago isn't very descriptive.
It is likely that you bought on the way down, though.  Especially since
gold was near $1000/oz when carter left office.

> >most analysts would tie that to the fall of the dollar, which has been
> >dropping steadily. Right now, Gold is a much better investment then cash,
> >unless the cash is in Yen or Marks.
>
> 	Or unless the gold has been losing value, like it has in recent
> years.
>

To the fall of the dollar?  Nonsense.  The dollar fell, almost in half over
the 80's while gold fell to 20% of what it was.  The price of gold rising,
almost $30 in the last 3 weeks, is directly tied to the polling data which
shows Clinton ahead 2-1.  I've even (gasp) heard this on the network news :)

> Jim Del Vecchio

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
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Date: 24 Jul 92 18:35:38 PST
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In article <1992Jul24.083653.17559@hemlock.cray.com> rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
> I don't criticize Dan for his "unconditional love" for his daughter, but I
> do flame him for not having the same unconditional love for *all* women
> in similar circumstances as his daughter.
>

Who says that Quayle doesn't have love for all women?  You've got a LOT
to prove here, buddy.

> If he would not treat his daughter like a criminal, he should not support
> legislation to make other women criminals.
>

Women were never ever made criminals.  Doctors were held responsible.
This is before Roe, since there has been ZERO legislation against
abortion in the 20 years since.

> --
> Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
> ------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
> EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)

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From: harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: Whose Truth? (was Re: Free speech and artistic style at the NEA)
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:28:41 GMT

In article <LARRY.92Jul24123012@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.144403.2637@pictel.com> harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:
>
>   I think it is pretty clear from my previous posts that I would not want
>   *anybody* designated as the "leader" of prayer.  A "moment of silence"
>   is an impartial opportunity for students who have religious beliefs of
>   *any* kind to use that time as they see fit.  Those students who do not
>   hold religious beliefs can spend those 15 seconds reading a quarter of
>   a page of notes, or anything else that does not disturb others during
>   that time.
>
>Well, that's a poor assumption to make. My kids need to chant aloud, and 
>they'll need to do it for more than 15 seconds. We'll also need the blood
>of a right-thinking Republican. Else we might anger our ancient god 
>Pindeho.

If that is the case, then we'll have to deal with it like we dealt with
conflicts of interest throughout the history of this country: by
compromise.  If one person's faith promotes verbalized prayer and
another's promotes silent, the two obviously cannot pray at the same
time in the same place.  A proper compromise would involve providing
different times or places for the two groups to pray, not denying both
groups the opportunity.

As for getting the blood of a right-thinking Republican, if you can do
that without violating anyone's rights, please feel free.  :-)
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: EIB Cashflows
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:26:05 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Anyone know how EIB revenues are broken out?  Do afilliate stations get the
feed for free and EIB collects it's revenues from national advertisers?  I
know afilliates can insert their own ads in between the national ads.  How
does all this work?
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.arts.misc,rec.music.christian
From: harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: Whose Truth? (was Re: Free speech and artistic style at the NEA)
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:37:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.143906.29667@maths.tcd.ie> pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes:
>harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:
>
>>I think it is important that government institutions officially
>>recognize that at least *some* citizens have religious beliefs.
>>Banning the "moment of silence" prevents people of *all* religions from
>>having a quiet moment before classes in public facilities.  In short,
>>the lowest common denominator is not *no* religion, it is no
>>*particular* religion.
>
>And what about people of *no* religion, Dan - or do their feelings
>count?

Are you concerned that people who have *nothing* to do during the
"moment of silence" have 15 seconds wasted every morning?  A person can
use that time as he sees fit, whether by praying, meditating or writing
a note to the student across the aisle.  Those who are "offended" by
the fact that other people may be using that time to pray need to be a
little more considerate, that's all.
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: uk02757@nx22.mik.uky.edu (jeffrey t hazelwood)
Subject: WHO THE HELL IS RUSH LIMBAUGH
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:03:52 GMT
Distribution: usa

Ok guys,

As a relative foreigner and not involved in Politics, just who the hell is  
RUSH LIMBAUGH????????????


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From: tbuckley@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Tim Buckley)
Subject: Re: The real deal
Organization: Dept. of Psychology, Univ. of Illinois, Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:21:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.132244.1@vax1.umkc.edu> jroberts@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>Despite all of the atttention given to the Rush Limbaugh Fan Club, not all of
>it is good.  Some of it, including mine, is false.  
>
>The only reason I listen to him is to get an idea of how stupid someone can
>really be.  His problem is that he has captured the hearts of many listeners
>who don't want to think for himself.  Instead, he thinks for them.  That's why
>he's one of the most listened-to talk-show hosts in the country.

It sounds as though you think that most of his listeners believe his
commercial (If you don't know what to think I'll tell you).  Get a grip.
Rush provides entertainment, raises issues, and occasionally provides
some useful information.  He even advertises his show in this way.
Don't take it so seriously.  If you read this newsgroup for a few days
it becomes quites clear that few (if any) listeners really believe him
to be infallible or particularly brilliant (though he is bright).  If
you really believe what you have stated I have main questions: 1) why do
you keep listening?  Aren't you convinced of just how stupid he is by
now?  How much more evidence do you need?  Could be that he makes you
think about the issues and rework your own arguments, perhaps even
bolstering them.  A valuable service.  And 2) Don't you think that any
attention he gets is good for him?  He's trying to make a buck.  He's
doing pretty well at it too.  Maybe he's not as dumb as you think he is.
Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are (that isn't a flame
almost none of us is as smart as we think we are).  Maybe he's just
tricked you into making him richer.

In my opinion the best reasons for listening to the show are 1) it is
very funny, and, 2) it spawned this newsgroup which has some intelligent
discussion and isn't overcrowded -- yet (Have you tried keeping up with
alt.politics.bush or al.politics.clinton?  Sheesh, I'm about ready to
give up on them.).

> but at least I'm thinking.

So are most of the rest of us as many of the intelligent posts (pro and
con) I've seen here attest to.

Intelligent, well constructed debate is a blast.  The only problem with
it is that it is addictive thus taking up too much of my time.

>							J. C. Roberts
>							University of Missouri-
>							   Kansas City

Tim
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: "Family Values" in Hollywood
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Date: 20 Jul 92 17:54:29 PST
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In article <LARRY.92Jul20103041@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
> Apparently it isn't just us Evil Liberals who question Quayle's fitness
> for office. Remember when Bush had his little heart murmur? How many of
> the president's staunch supporters were in a tizzy over the prospect of
> Quayle taking the helm?
>

Just for the sake of argument, let's assume that Bush is a very wise and
intelligent man.  If so, then why did he pick Quayle at all?  My answer
would be that Bush could have picked any of a number of very qualified
presidential material men - like Kemp or Graham or Baker.  However, when
the power of the VP is weighed, and you see what these men have been
able to accomplish in roles other than VP, Bush's pick of Quayle looks
very smart.

Also, with all the HATE mongering that goes on, Bush is a LOT less likely
to be assasinated for fear of Quayle being president :)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:36:53 CDT


In article <1992Jul24.015312.23522@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.170632.14292@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@umbc5.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
> >    I didn't see the show, but I heard that Quayle was on Larry King,
> >and someone asked hiw what he would do if his daughter got pregnant and
> >wanted an abortion. His response was that he would support her "in any
> >decsion that she made".
> >
> >    Sounds pretty pro-choice (and anti-family-values, as defined by
> >Quayle himself) to me. Comments?
> 
> For some reason, many parents have this thing called "unconditional love" for 
> their children.  This is the ultimate in "family values."  One may disagree 
> with his child, but that doesn't mean he stops loving her, or "disowns" her.  I
> can't believe how some people are reading into this...

I don't criticize Dan for his "unconditional love" for his daughter, but I
do flame him for not having the same unconditional love for *all* women
in similar circumstances as his daughter.

If he would not treat his daughter like a criminal, he should not support
legislation to make other women criminals.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.arts.misc,rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Whose Truth? (was Re: Free speech and artistic style at the NEA)
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:30:12 GMT
	<1992Jul16.214455.1062@pictel.com> <BD.92Jul21081446@fluent.UUCP>
	<1992Jul22.144403.2637@pictel.com>
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory

In article <1992Jul22.144403.2637@pictel.com> harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:

   I think it is pretty clear from my previous posts that I would not want
   *anybody* designated as the "leader" of prayer.  A "moment of silence"
   is an impartial opportunity for students who have religious beliefs of
   *any* kind to use that time as they see fit.  Those students who do not
   hold religious beliefs can spend those 15 seconds reading a quarter of
   a page of notes, or anything else that does not disturb others during
   that time.

Well, that's a poor assumption to make. My kids need to chant aloud, and 
they'll need to do it for more than 15 seconds. We'll also need the blood
of a right-thinking Republican. Else we might anger our ancient god 
Pindeho.

L.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: gsh@iti.org (Greg Halbrook)
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:32:58 GMT

rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:


>In article <gsh.711914703@hela.iti.org>, gsh@iti.org (Greg Halbrook) writes:
>> alex@umbc5.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
>> 
>> >	I didn't see the show, but I heard that Quayle was on Larry King,
>> >and someone asked hiw what he would do if his daughter got pregnant and
>> >wanted an abortion. His response was that he would support her "in any
>> >decsion that she made".
>> 
>> >	Sounds pretty pro-choice (and anti-family-values, as defined by
>> >Quayle himself) to me. Comments?
>> 
>> What would you expect him to say?  His supporting his daughter in any
>> decision she made in this scenario sounds like an anti-family-value to you?

>Hmmm...  If Dan Quayle's daughter decided to rob a bank, would Dan
>support that decision too?

I said he supported his daughter, not her decision.  Why are you trying to
read things into something I didn't say?  If she did decide to rob a bank,
I would hope he'd support her through out the trial and sentence.  

>> Try, for just a moment, to pretend that you are totally against abortion.
>> Then pretend your daughter, whom you love very much decides to have one.
>> Are you going to disown her because she made a decision you disagreed with?
>> (I know that some people might)  

>No, of course not.  Now think that all women (and men too) are God's children 
>and you should love them as you love your own children.  Are you going to
>disown (or love less) other women because they made a decision you disagree 
>with?

In some cases I would.  It depends on the decision.  There are some types of 
people I would prefer to have nothing to do with.  Are you saying that you 
would welcome Adolph Hitler with open arms?  After all, it was just a little 
thing like his decision to exterminate an entire race that you disagreed 
with.

>>      I'm pro-choice myself, but I can see no hypocrisy in someone who is 
>> pro-life standing by thier loved ones especially in a time of crisis, nor
>> do I see any lessening of family values in this.

>I don't criticise Dan for standing by his daughter.  I do flame him for 
>trying to make criminals of other women that seek an abortion.

>Dan should stand by *all* women, the same as he would stand by his daughter.

I find it hard to dispute your logic here :)
 
>-- 
>Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
>------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
>EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
 
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.arts.misc,rec.music.christian
From: harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: Judgmentalism (was Re: Whose Truth?)
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:23:30 GMT

In article <BrpzMD.I3o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tbuckley@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Tim Buckley) writes:

[Actually, I wrote this paragraph, not Mr. Buckley, to whom it is
attributed.]

>>While the rulings may change, the reality stays the same.  Jesus was
>>very clear that lust is as sinful as adultery, and both separate you
>>from God.  That is, ultimately, the definition of sin.  Making such a
>>distinction may do more harm than good.
>
>Please read a number of earlier posts especially my owm.  Rulings
>haven't changed.  There is no "sin rule".  Your understanding of this
>point could be considerably improved if you would spend some time in
>thought and in research.

The article to which I was responding was referring to how some rules,
such as the prohibition against eating meat on Fridays, have changed.
I should have made my intent clearer: *whether or not* a rule changes
(such as whether lust is a venial or mortal sin), the reality that it
reflects does not.  In this case, Jesus clearly taught that lust is
sinful, which should be sufficient reason for one to avoid it,
regardless of the category into which it falls.

I do not pretend to be an expert on matters Catholic, and I did not
mean to imply in any way that Catholic doctrine is arbitrary, as the
previous poster apparently did.


>I am not flaming you but it seems as if you
>have ignored the posts that have dealt with this issue.  If you do not
>choose to address the posts that concerned this (several were quite
>good) then what is the point of discussion except to hear oneself speak?
>Little comes of this.

I posted my article when I reached the end of the thread; apparently,
the articles to which you refer arrived later.  I apologize for its
untimeliness.
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!
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From: dbp@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush's Compuserve address         
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:47:38 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

In article <1992Jul29.002021.5828@iscsvax.uni.edu>, barkema0332@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul26.222747.5688@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, an565@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Grosshans) writes:
[stuff deleted]
> Hello out there, I'm a new reader and user of this system, but I am also a big
> fan of "The most dangerous man in America today."  
> I was just wondering if someone could give me info on how to get a hold of
> Rush, because my mother's maiden name is Limbaugh and I've always wondered if
> there was any relation.
> 
-- 
This should be a FAQ:

Rush's compuserve address is the following: 70277,2502 .
Via internet: 70277.2502@compuserve.com

Hope it helps.


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