From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA)
Subject: Re: (In)sanity arrives to this group! Welcome back Susan!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:18:36 GMT

In article <susan.702883650@coombs> susan@coombs.anu.edu.au (Susan McDonald) writes:

>	The problem is Roberta that too many of the male posters here
>attempt to suggest that fighting is the _only_ solution available instead
>of a last resort.   They talk about, "not turning the other cheek" nor
>even attempting to avoid a fight, when the other result will basically
>result in a lot more blood being spilled which is unnecessary.

Bullshit, Suzy!  If you would listen to what's being said, instead of
looking for things to justify your accusations of sexism, you would know
that the use of lethal force is *always* considered an extreme measure,
to be used only as an absolutely last resort.  Most, if not all, of the
gunowners here have had enough firearms training to know that.  This is
talk.politics.guns, not talk.fight.alternatives.  By the time we reach
the stage of discussing guns, we have dismissed the other alternatives
as inadequate for the particular situation.  BTW, why do you make sexist
comments like "too many of the *male* posters here..."?  Many people post
under aliases, or by their initials, so you don't know what sex they are,
now do you?  Aren't you making just a bit of an assumption, based on their
positions on lethal force?  And what about us women who are willing to use
a gun in self defense?  You're stereotyping again, Susan.

>>If you wish to do so, that's
>>your right.  Do not tell me that I have no right to defend myself if
>>I find it necessary.

>	As far as I can tell no one is suggesting that.  What is being
>suggested is the question of whether or not fighting is the only solution 
>which is available to people in certain situations (ie a fight).

Your gun-control agenda would take away my final means of self-defense.
You, Susan, by desiring to ban guns, are saying I have no right to use
lethal force even if it's the only way I can prevent myself being killed.
You, Susan, by desiring to ban guns, are saying I have no right to use
lethal force against a rapist.  You are no friend to wymmin.  You would
disarm us, thereby reducing our chances of successfully defending ourselves
against a larger, stronger assailant.

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