HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David)
Subject: Re: WOSAT videodisc?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:24:48 GMT


markl@cellar.org (Mark Leber) writes:
>Believe I heard someone mention the existance of WOSAT videodiscs? I
>have a friend who would just die to have one, anybody know where one could
>be had?

i had no trouble getting it on laserdisc. went down to my local laserdisc
retailer, had them order it for me, and about a week later i had it in my
hot little hands. cost is about $40. a mail-order firm like Tewksbury, or
Sight and Sound should be able to order it for you as well (and may get a
discount as well). Image Entertainment is the distributor for the movie on
laserdisc, if that helps. i think the stock number is ID7209 but don't 
quote me on that...

good luck...
-- 
David Vangerov, Systems Analyst - Advanced Technologies, Information Services.
Voice: 408-425-7222, x4357 | Email: ...!uunet!sco!davidv | SCO would never say 
Fax:   408-427-5460        |        davidv@sco.com       | something this lame
  "First rule of bicycling: you're always going up a hill and into the wind"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David)
Subject: Re: Illuminations on TWOS&T
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 10:11:43 GMT


dankari@cats.ucsc.edu (DANKARI -YOUR SIRE!!!-) writes:

>Anyway, I'm also searching for the english laserdisk, to make high quality
>copies for myself.  I also extend the offer above.  Once I find a copy, 
>I will post the address to send the SASB (box) to recive copies.  Mike,
>what do you think of sending me the outtakes and other "ditties" to add to
>the end of the tape?  Future stuff to say the least however.

if by the english laserdisk you mean an English Language version of 
the movie, then i just happen to have one. i had no trouble whatsoever 
getting a copy out of my local LaserDisc retailer (Lenz Arts in Santa 
Cruz, corner of North Pacific and River St). the laserdisc is distributed 
by Image Entertainment. the stock number is ID7209SG. 

i'd *love* to get my hands on outtakes, and whatnot, for my collection. 
-- 
David Vangerov, Systems Analyst - Advanced Technologies, Information Services.
Voice: 408-425-7222, x4357 | Email: ...!uunet!sco!davidv | SCO would never say 
Fax:   408-427-5460        |        davidv@sco.com       | something this lame
  "First rule of bicycling: you're always going up a hill and into the wind"
From: ez000939@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Squid)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Question on Schtuff
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:53:05 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Ick habe eine frog.  Or something like that.  I do have a 
question though.  I know Jittlov was involved in Ghost.  One
of the guys from CWI up here mentioned at one point that his job
was to be a stunt stand in.  Evidentally the scene where the murderer
bites it and gets dragged away needed a lot of depth of field.  So 
they needed someone who could move real slow over a great period of
time.  What do they do. They hire Jittlov to put on an outfit and
animate himself over a long period of time.  Result, he throws his
back out.

My problem is, as anyone who follows film gossip knows, that I
don't know what he did on the film.  I was told he did titles.
I was told by ILM he animated the shadow spirits.  I was told
at CWI he stood still on camera.  Does some one know?  I would
normally just be curios, but all the different answers are 
perplexing.  And I can't get ahold of the copy of Cinefex.
I'm tempted to believe CWI as they worked on the film.
Does anyone know?

My next question.  I'm in northern california.  Does anyone
know where to get ball and socket joints for stop action
up here.  I'm looking for either raw stock or manufactured.
I'f anyone knows about LA, that would be helpfull too as
I have a friend there who could get the stuff.

Thanks.  

**************************************************************
Squid
ez000939@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu
From: mbkomor@anableps.berkeley.edu (M. Beth Komor)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: More UnReadiness
Date: 23 Jul 1992 12:58:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu
Summary: Offline mailreader for Mike
Keywords: *I* don't know anything about Amigas....
Originator: mbkomor@anableps.berkeley.edu

Does anyone know of a good *friendly* offline mailreader that works on
Amigas? -It seems that at least part of the reason why responses are so
long in coming is that Mike's having a *difficult* time dealing with
doing offline mailreading/editing. 

And that could put *anybody* off un*x. 

Can anybody out there help?

*Best,*

--Meriday Beth

mbkomor@mica.berkeley.edu
ustaB 1:104/22 (@fidonet.org), so I can help <somewhat>, but I don't know
what Amiga's will put up with...

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From: marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Amanda T Marlowe)
Subject: The Graphic Novels...
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:06:04 GMT


Hi, I've been lurking on this group for a while (too busy playing PernMUSH
to post, though :) :) ), and I thought I'd break the silence by asking
what people think of the "graphic novels" of the first two parts of
Dragonflight. I was looking for a copy of Dragon Lover's Guide in a store
I thought might actually be able to find me a copy, and leafed through
these. They looked interesting, but the guy at the store told me they
weren't popular enough for them to have made the third (and final) volume.

Has anyone out there read them? What do people think of the illustrations?
(I've always prefered the second cover of Dragonflight-The one with Lessa
in a white dress riding Ramoth- as my view of dragons, rather than the
pterodactyl things that took over the later versions, personally.) 


Amanda (aka Ariella, Judeth's rider@PernMUSH, who respectfully salutes all
riders reading this post... :) )

-- 
**** Amanda Marlowe		"Son, Son, I admire your sincerity. Always be
     marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu   sincere whether you mean it or not." 
****                               -The Reluctant Cannibal, by Flanders&Swann
From: z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: re: The Graphic Novels...
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:52:42 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

About the Graphic Novels, I thought I throw in my two marks worth:
	Artwork is OK, but it's not really terrific--I was hoping for something
more along the lines of INNOVATION's "The Vampire Lestat" in terms of quality
(even though it does has some problems too...which belongs on another net). 
The characters look really weird, though based on Robin Wood's "People of
Pern", they look kinda stiff and some of them are downright ugly looking.
 Dragons look pretty strange.  Of course I favor
the Michael Welan Dragons.:)  I don't remember...do dragons have a forked or
spade shaped tail?  Or does it vary?  
	Anyway, it was a nice try.:)
	Queenriders, isn't it hard to fly fall in a diaphonous dress?*grin*

--Bard
From: rsnyder@atl.ge.com (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Atlas of Pern
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:36:11 GMT
	<1992Jul25.165007.20144@cs.unca.edu>
Organization: GE Aerospace, Advanced Technology Labs, Moorestown, NJ

>>>>> In article <1992Jul25.165007.20144@cs.unca.edu>,
>>>>> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list
>>>>> owner) writes:

Scott> Surely someone out there could *scan* the atlas, so *everyone* could
Scott> get a copy!

Gee, and no copyright violations there, are there. :)

Bob
--
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rsnyder@atl.ge.com, (609) 866-6672, FAX: (609) 866-6397, DialComm 8*777-6672
From: ambar@cygnus.com (Jean Marie Diaz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: The Graphic Novels...
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:54:57 GMT
Organization: Redheads Anonymous
In-reply-to: dragon@angus.mi.org's message of 31 Jul 92 13:15:58 GMT

In article <BP3RoB3w165w@angus.mi.org> dragon@angus.mi.org (John Lussmyer) writes:

   Why would it be?  And it entertains the bronze riders sooo much... :-)

Because it's sharding COLD, that's why.

Real bronze riders get turned on by wherhide.

ffffpthtt.
				AMBAR
From: dragon@angus.mi.org (John Lussmyer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: re: The Graphic Novels...
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:15:58 GMT
Reply-To: dragon@angus.mi.org
Organization: North Star BBS

z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

> 	Queenriders, isn't it hard to fly fall in a diaphonous dress?*grin*
> 

Why would it be?  And it entertains the bronze riders sooo much... :-)

--
John Lussmyer (dragon@angus.mi.org)
North Star BBS, Royal Oak, MI --------------------------------------------+-
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:20:45 -0400 
From: Moonchilde <jtraub+@cmu.edu>
Subject: PernMUSH move.

PernMUSH is now at wiretap.spies.com port 4201
That's 130.43.3.3 for those with broken nameservers.

I had sent this before when the move happened (about 2 weeks ago) but it seems
to have never made it through.. maybe this will work better.

--Moonchilde
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From: russ@math.okstate.edu (Russ Smith)
Subject: Re: PernMUSH Firelizard Gather, #2!
Keywords: firelizards gather PernMUSH
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Math Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:00:57 GMT

In <shris.712416241@camelot> shris@camelot.bradley.edu (Kristina Rager) writes:

>Well, here it is, the Great Firelizard Gather, take two.

>There are a grand total of 161 firelizards on the perch, and there could have
>been a few more but for an unfortunate comment by a Lord Holder who happened
>to be passing through. =-]

And I'd do it again. :)

-Kale

-- 
Russ "Random" Smith
+----===Comedy!  Sudden, violent comedy!===-----------russ@okstate.edu--------+
|  Godfather of the Random Gang; Diplomat of the Brotherhood of Evil MUDders  |
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Atlas of Pern
Date: 25 Jul 92 16:50:07 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Surely someone out there could *scan* the atlas, so *everyone* could
get a copy!

Scott
From: renehill@acsu.buffalo.edu (Rene M. Hill)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Atlas of Pern
Date: 26 Jul 92 08:18:49 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Jul25.173312.26121@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> hamilton@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov (Jackie D. Hamilton) writes:
>
>I've been wanting a copy too, but it's out of print.  
>
>I'd be willing to bet there'd be a rather big demand for this book, if the
>publishers decided to print another run.  Perhaps someone could post the
>publisher's addy, and we could barrage them with letters demanding a reprint.
>:)
>
>IMHO, of course...  :)
>
>-j.

Is the atlas out of print? It is still available through the Science Fiction Book Club.  I have been ordering copies for people, so if anyone's interested, just let me know.  I can also get the guide, people of pern, and I know where the graphic novels can be ordered.

-Rene' (renehill@acsu.buffalo.edu)
From: esrby@warwick.ac.uk (E.Bright)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: PernMUSH - aging (was: firelizards)
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:58:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <83989@netnews.upenn.edu> lwl@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Lydia Leong) writes:
>
>YOU feel old... what with the dragon aging timescale and the original
>PernMUSH 1 month RL to 1 year VR timescale, I've aged by 11 or so years
>since PernMUSH was founded a year and a half ago.  (The RL me probably has
>a few more gray hairs from the MUSH, too. *wry grin*)
>
>That makes me... oo. Too old. 30 or so, VR. Eeek.
>

Old ? OLD ? at 30 or so ? Eeeeeeekkkkkk

My Pern character started out VR the same age as I was RL. - that was 30.....
Am I THAT old ?

:weeps

Signed, a very ancient decrepid Jman herder
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: alangton@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Andrew Langton)
Subject: Atlas of Pern
Organization: Macquarie University, Sydney
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:17:19 GMT

Hi.  I'm looking for a copy of the Atlas of Pern, but I'm told it's no longer
available in Australia.  I was wondering if it is still available overseas (US or
England or wherever)?  If so, and someone would be willing to buy it and send it
to me (if I sent them the money first, bien sur), could they please contact me at
alangton@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au?

Thanks
Andrew

-- 
"That you have lived as you have lived for centuries is no licence for this
cruelty. All here are now judged, and all are found wanting. ... You who
would take pleasure from the death and dishonour of others, see then how
well you face destruction!" - Milamber, "Magician"
From: hamilton@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov (Jackie D. Hamilton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Atlas of Pern
Date: 25 Jul 1992 17:33:12 GMT
Organization: NASA/JSC Engineering Computation Facility


I've been wanting a copy too, but it's out of print.  

I'd be willing to bet there'd be a rather big demand for this book, if the
publishers decided to print another run.  Perhaps someone could post the
publisher's addy, and we could barrage them with letters demanding a reprint.
:)

IMHO, of course...  :)

-j.
From: jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Book Covers (was: Re: The Graphic Novels...)
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:48:52 GMT
Reply-To: jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Jul21.190604.19993@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> 
marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Amanda T Marlowe) writes:
>Has anyone out there read them? What do people think of the illustrations?
>(I've always prefered the second cover of Dragonflight-The one with Lessa
>in a white dress riding Ramoth- as my view of dragons, rather than the
>pterodactyl things that took over the later versions, personally.) 

You mean the one where Ramoth looks like a Chinese dragon and Lessa looks
voluptuous? I've always preferred the later ones, personnaly.... Chinese
dragons don't have the 'triangular heads' that the novels refer to...

-Doriana, who would rather see Lessa flat-chested and in a wherhide vest than
	full-bosomed in a thin dress......

P.S. How do you go /Between/ without catching your death of cold in an outfit 
My biggest budget problem is food:
My stomach wants four meals a day.
My budget wants two.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: Martin_Loos@mk.maus.de (Martin Loos)
Subject: Re: Atlas of Pern
Organization: Mausnet
X-Gateway: MausGate/Mail 1.11
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:16:00 +0000

reply-to: ml@un.maus.de

Hi there!

Could anybody post me the ISBN-number and the author of the "Atlas of Pern"
please? I'm very interested in it, but it's difficult to find in Germany.

so long...
Mattin

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine)
Subject: Re: The Graphic Novels...
Organization: The Certifiably Insane [aka Mush wizzes] 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:21:20 GMT

In article [snip] marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Amanda T Marlowe) writes:
>
>Hi, I've been lurking on this group for a while (too busy playing PernMUSH
>to post, though :) :) ), and I thought I'd break the silence by asking
	I know that feeling.....

>what people think of the "graphic novels" of the first two parts of
>Dragonflight. I was looking for a copy of Dragon Lover's Guide in a store
>I thought might actually be able to find me a copy, and leafed through
>these. They looked interesting, but the guy at the store told me they
>weren't popular enough for them to have made the third (and final) volume.

	Excuse me? I haven't ever read volume II, as the local comic
store only had volumes I and III. If they never made the third part
of Dragonflight I must have something worth a _lot_ of money. :)
	By graphic novels, btw, I'm assuming you're meaning those
about 15-20 page things (if I remember correctly) which cover
_Dragonflight_ only, correct?

>Has anyone out there read them? What do people think of the illustrations?
>(I've always prefered the second cover of Dragonflight-The one with Lessa
>in a white dress riding Ramoth- as my view of dragons, rather than the
>pterodactyl things that took over the later versions, personally.) 

	Well, yes, I've read them. They were interesting, because
I'm not a terribly visual person and it was nice to see Pern
in technicolour, as it were. The art was decent--nothing fantastic
as I recall--and after reading through them a couple of times I
stuck them somewhere and forgot about them.

>Amanda (aka Ariella, Judeth's rider@PernMUSH, who respectfully salutes all
>riders reading this post... :) )

					C.J.
aka Deirdre@PernMUSH, who returns Ariella's salute, pleasantly surprised
that _someone_ seems to be listening to her. :)

-- 
kruger@littlewood.math.okstate.edu   |||  "How long can someone wait?
Deirdre@PernMUSH (wiretap.spies.com) |||  Forever's just a little long!"
Delaney@ValdeMUSH (emcnext.tamu.edu) |||      ---Fiona, from BLONDEL
IFGS character of the month: Maria   ||| My opinions. Deal with them.
From: vjmurphy@carina.unm.edu (Vincent J. Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Trust Lord Kale....
Keywords: firelizards gather PernMUSH
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:58:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Jul30.024542.23670@math.okstate.edu> kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine) writes:
>In article [snip] shris@camelot.bradley.edu (Kristina Rager) writes:
>
>>After that must have come the most THWAPS Lord Kale has ever received at one
>>time...:)
>
>	I wouldn't be too sure about that Shiris....Kale is an
>_amazing_ man.  He's able to get himself thwapped with a skill that
>is remarkable.
>
    I've been getting thwapped/bapped with great regularity myself, but 
nothing approaching the number of times Lord Kale was thwapped. I guess I
need to try harder.

                                      Tomar, J-man StarSmith 
                            (Who has, by the way, RETIRED from flirting,
                              so thwap me if I flirt with you. Thanks.)
-- 
"You ask me if sex is one of the most  _\_\    _/_/     Phred Platypus
 important things in life?  Absolutely. _\_\  _/_/  Grammarian of Vengeance
 But the lack of it is even likelier     _\_\_/_/ [ vjmurphy@carina.unm.edu ]
 to drive you nuts." -- Harlan Ellison    _\_/       Vincent J. Murphy
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From: kruger@math.okstate.edu (Valentine)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Trust Lord Kale....
Keywords: firelizards gather PernMUSH
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:45:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Certifiably Insane [aka Mush wizzes]

In article [snip] shris@camelot.bradley.edu (Kristina Rager) writes:

>Well, here it is, the Great Firelizard Gather, take two.

>There are a grand total of 161 firelizards on the perch, and there could have
>been a few more but for an unfortunate comment by a Lord Holder who happened
>to be passing through. =-]
><More on that in a bit>

	[many lines of FL's deleted]

>So there we go...the last few didn't actually land on the perch, but they 
>would have except for the following statement:

>Kale says "I dunno.  I always thought riders stood around and stared balefully
>     at the red star or something, Thryla."

	Trust Lord Kale to do something like this. I've always
said his judgement was spotty, but this takes the cake!!

:) :) :) :) :)  <--- Liberal dosage for the humor-impaired

>Here follows a log of the biggest firelizard exodus ever seen on PernMUSH.
>=-]

>After that must have come the most THWAPS Lord Kale has ever received at one
>time...:)

	I wouldn't be too sure about that Shiris....Kale is an
_amazing_ man.  He's able to get himself thwapped with a skill that
is remarkable.

>Well, there you have it. The largest gathering and the largest exodus of 
>firelizards in the history of PernMUSH.

>Shiris, rider of blue Davorth, Ista Weyr, PernMUSH.
>shris@buhub.bradley.edu
>shris@camelot.bradley.edu

			Deirdre, Rider of Green Kolith, Fort Weyr, NC
			<not to mention taunter of Kale at every chance>

-- 
kruger@littlewood.math.okstate.edu  |||  "But what is truth? Is truth 
Deirdre@PernMUSH (wiretap.spies.com)|||  unchaning law? We both have 
Delaney@ValdeMUSH (emcnext.tamu.edu)|||  truths--are mine the same as 
IFGS character of the month: Maria  |||  yours?" --Jesus Christ Superstar 
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From: scp8340@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: Re: Generation Warriorsex
Organization: Houck Computing Center, Oberlin College, OH USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:51:10 GMT
X-Posted-From: ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul17.124144.4114@cs.unca.edu>, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
> The cover says:
> 
> ANNE MCCAFFERY and ELIZABETH MOON
> 
> The title page says
> 
> ANNE MCCAFFERY and JODY LYNN NYE
> 
> So who wrote it?! Why are there 2 different co-authors listed?
> 
> Scott
> 
My copy of _Generation Warriors_ just says that Elizabeth Moon is the
co-author.  But one of the books in that trilogy is co-authored by Jody Lynn
Nye, _The Death of Sleep_...the other _Sassinack_ is also co-authored by
E. Moon...so maybe some printer messed up & confused the books.

-christina
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Christina M. Pierce           I Any real change implies the breakup of the world
Oberlin College               I as one has always known it, the loss of all that
scp8340@oberlin.bitnet        I gave one an identity, the end of safety.
scp8340@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu I                                 --James Baldwin
________________________________________________________________________________
              I'd rather question my sexuality than not have it.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: lwl@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Lydia Leong)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: PernMUSH - aging (was: firelizards)
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:24:12 GMT
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow

In article <1992Jul21.040946.5309@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> garvey@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Heather Garvey) [Kailyn] writes:
>
>	My God, I feel so OLD now....
>	Lesse, N'lar and I begain Tiglath Weyr 1.5 years ago RL, which
>makes it a little over seven years VR.

YOU feel old... what with the dragon aging timescale and the original
PernMUSH 1 month RL to 1 year VR timescale, I've aged by 11 or so years
since PernMUSH was founded a year and a half ago.  (The RL me probably has
a few more gray hairs from the MUSH, too. *wry grin*)

That makes me... oo. Too old. 30 or so, VR. Eeek.

(But no, Malachite, I'm still not old enough to have an affair with a
 grumpy old Masterminer.  ;) )

   -- Amberyl, Jeniath's rider, former Instrument Master/Harper Craftsecond,
               former senior Weyrwoman of Benden, now retired.
               (Hmm. Maybe I should join T'lean and Tavella in Disneyland
                and visit Puffth the magic dragon...)

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