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From: rakesh@mame.mu.OZ.AU (Rakesh DESAI)
Subject: Aussie Team for Brisbane - Prediction
Keywords: Aus XI
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:43:39 GMT

My prediction of Australian Test XI for Brisbane.

1) Mark Taylor
2) Mathew Hayden
3) David Boon
4) Dean Jones
5) Allan Border (c)
6) Steve Waugh
7) Greg Mathews
8) Ian Healy
9) Craig McDermott
10) Merv Hughes
11) Mike Whitney

I guess there won't be much doubt about selection of 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, and
9.(still funny things have happened in the past :-))  Some arguments
will always be there regarding the order.  I prefer to stick to Boon at
3 where he had past two year 500+ test series.  Again I prefer Deano
at 4.  He had quite decent series in Sri Lanka, so I guess selectors
won't think him as misfit for test matches.  Aus XI match may leave no
doubt about selecting Hayden, Steve Waugh and Merv Hughes.  Martyn and
Lehman also performed well but they will have to do something more and
some of the std names in Aussie team have to perform badly.  That leaves
Whitney and Mathews.  I would select Whitney over Reid as Reid surving 5
days without injury is not a sure thing.  We need a spinner who can bat
reasonably well and that leaves no other choice than Mathews.  Warne may
have good chance to get into Sydney match.  

I see missing 4th pace bowler.  But I consider Steve Waugh decent medium
pace bowler for that matter.  I think against windies what is required
is good batting side who can last against 4 pace bowlers plus dangerous
Hooper.

rakesh
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From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za (Pieter Vermeulen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: SA vs India Full Score Card (LONG)
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:18:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ford.pieter.722495901
Organization: University of Pretoria, South Africa

duck@nuustak.csir.co.za (Paul Ducklin) writes:
>Could you post more info on the "electronic eye" business -- is this 
>experimental, or has the ICC decided permanently that TV is to be legal 
>in assisting umpires? 
It is an experiment approved by the ICC... It only covers run-outs and
stumpings, and when there is doubt the decision still favours the
batsman. 

>is often used *against* them. However, my experience of umpiring and of 
>watching TV suggests to me that PAL TV, at 25Hz, just doesn't seem to produce
>enough data to decide on things like catches at the wicket. I've often
>watched replays where commentators have said things like "look at that; a wild
>stroke, but a correct decision -- he didn't get anywhere near it", whilst
>the slowmo *I* saw showed two successive frames with the ball approaching
>first and leaving it on the second. In other words, no frame showing the
>actual behaviour of the ball near the bat. 
A student of mine did some research on this for his final year
project. (We called it PLUMB:  Programmable Lbw UMpiring Box :-)
Anyway; his results indicated that there was plenty info for decisions
such as stumpings and run-outs. One of the not so obvious sources of
info is that you actually have two images of moving objects in a frame
(even and odd scans, put together to form the frame) and the brain has
no problem interpolating between these. The principle involved here is
so-called super resolution where you have a good idea what path the
ball should follow and all you need is a few samples to get the
parameters of this 'model'. The extreme example is that you need only
one sample of a sine wave with known amplitude in order to know the
full waveform (since you only needed the phase parameter estimated).  

With run-outs and stumpings, the movement is a lot slower than that of
the ball, so TV can indeed assist these decisions. We also found that
you will have to increase the frame rate to approx 100 frames/s to be
able to do lbw decisions when Thomson is bowling at full speed. In our
setup we had two cameras. The first (and hardest) step was to segment
the ball from the background. Then parabolas were fitted through the
samples of the ball, the two frames were registered and a decision was
made.  

As for the caught behind case: a soultion could be to fit a parabola
through the points and if the fit is not good, then there must have
been a deflection from the bat... Which is the same way a human would
have made the decision. You do not need a frame close to the point of
impact, since the effect of a touch will be visible afterwards.

Pieter Vermeulen
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From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Subject: Re: ANALYSIS OF INDIAN BATSMEN
Reply-To: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Organization: College of Computing
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:54:57 GMT

In article <sxy1Hvyp+a@atlantis.psu.edu> VGC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Venu Gopal Chalamgari) writes:
>HI GUYS,
>       I HAVE THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS TO SAY ABOUT THE INDIAN BATSMEN
>RAVI SHASTRI-  I DONT KNOW WHY HE IS STILL IN THE INDIAN TEAM, HE HAS NEITHER
>A GOOD SCORE NOR A GOOD BOWLING PERFORMANCE IN THE RECENT PAST TO JUSTIFY
>HIS PRESENCE IN THE TEAM, IF IAM NOT EXAGERATING YOU BOWL 12 CONSECTIVE
>OUT SWINGERS OR JUST OUT SIDE THE OFFSTUMP DELIVERIES IAM SURE YOU CAN
> HAVE HIM CAUGHT BEHIND THE WICKETS
>
Wow! People do have short memory! Have u forgotten his 200 at Sydney last year?
Or his two 100's in England in 1989?
Don't state facts of which you are not sure of! 

- Sougata
From: gds@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Crowds at cricket
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:26:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: casper.Bxssnr.BuG
Reply-To: gds@cs.uct.ac.za
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town

Sanjay.Naik@launchpad.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik) writes:
>The crowd is a big disappointment though. Just 3000 :-( I think more are
>employed to do the cleaning, etc. whenever a game is staged at the Eden
>Gardens against any opposition. There must be a reasonable explanation for
>such a low turnout. You'd think that SA's first game at home after their
>long exile would have brought a larger crowd.

As someone else has said: the rugby could have had something to do with it
on Saturday.  Aparantly attendance was better on Sunday.  The commentators
mentioned that the admission prices were quite high (and I have now
forgotten what they are, but I remember thinking, wow, I won't pay that).

Another point made by the commentators was that the SA spectators are not
used to the 5 day matches (due to our sports isolation the last 10-20
years), and people got spoiled (?) by the one day game.

It's probably sacriledge to say such a thing in this forum, but I've don
my asbestos suite...  I don't think I'll ever go to a 5 day game - it's just
too boring ;-)  It's fine to have the radio or TV on in the background, (at
least one can watch the replay if you missed something :-). but to
sit at the cricke field?  No way.  Give me a day-night game - that I'll go
watch!

To stave off at least some of the flames (and maybe generate even more :-),
I'm not saying "throw out the 5 day game" - I have heard most of the
arguments fot it and they sound reasonable, so you can have your 5 day
games, just don't complain if I don't show up to watch :-)
-- 
Riel Smit,  Computer Science                              gds@cs.uct.ac.za
University of Cape Town                      gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
From: satish@wpi.edu (Satish Purushothaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Home address needed
Date: 22 Nov 1992 07:31:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, WPI
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From: andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad)
Subject: New US batting record (lim overs)
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:34:16 GMT


In the October 4th match between Staten Island CC and Prior CC, Glen Lorick,
SICC's captain, batting at number three, hit 218 before retiring in the 34th
over. This sets a new US record for limited overs cricket. His innings included
18 sixes and 14 fours (75% of all runs in boundaries).

SICC scored 307-3 in 35 overs and Prior hit 298 all out (34th over) for a total
of 596 runs and an incredible day of cricket.

Andrew Coad
From: nadeem@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (Mohammed Nadeem  ISE-GRAD)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Cricket Quiz
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:09:58 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens


	Here's a small quiz for X-mas break.

	In the first innings of a test match, only two balls have
	been bowled by a bowler and the score board shows a total
	of 12 runs with no extras. (No no-balls, no wides, etc.)
	Both the batsmen have scored 6 runs apiece.
	
	Good luck

-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   Mohammed Nadeem	  e-mail: nadeem@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
	"TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO TREAT YOU"
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From: sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G)
Subject: Re: Yet another survey
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:29:40 GMT

In article <009639A2.BBB3B400@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
[some material deleted]
>
>Okay, I did not goof up, but the report goofed up in the graph. While the
>report says "Strangely, however, 52 percent feel that Ravi Shastri does not
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>deserve a place in the team and a good 70% disapprove of his selection as vice
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>captain". 
 ^^^^^^^
>

The respondents to the survey have rightly felt that over-individualistic 
players like Shastri don't deserve a place in the team.  They are aware of 
the fact that cricket is a *team-game* ---- something which the selectors are 
obviously ignorant about.

But is it *strange* that the cricket-loving public seem to be more 
knowledgeable about the game and have exhibited more intelligence than 
the selectors ? Certainly not. The Indian cricket-team selectors have
always been just a bunch of jokers. (now, have we heard it before ? :-) )

[deleted]
>
>-Murali
>

Regards,

--Sudhi.


--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu    Address : USL PO Box 41688,
                          	                    Lafayette, LA 70504-1688.
	                                            USA.
From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Scores
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:10:50 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I seek a minor clarification regarding the score card Pieter posted:

Cook c Tendulkar b Kapil      0     Shastri lbw Pringle              14
  edge to 3rd slip                    played across, full pitched
Hudson b Kapil               14     Jadeja c McMillan b Schultz       3
  inside edge, driving                fended to 2nd slip
Wessels c Azhar b Kumble    118     Manjrekar lbw McMillan            0
  edge to slip, cutting               beaten, in-swinging yorker
Kirsten c More b Srinath     13     Tendulkar run out (Rhodes)       11
  top edge, cutting                   sent back, TV decision
Rhodes c Azhar b Kumble      41     Azhar run out (Donald)           36
  missed sweep, silly point           direct hit from mid-wicket
McMillan c Prabhakar b Shastr 3     Amre c Rhodes b McMillan        103
  hit full toss to square leg         full blooded cut to point
Richardson lbw Prabhakar     15     Kapil Dev c Richardson b McMillan 2
  in-ducker, hit on back pad          cutting a lifting ball
Henry c Tendulkar b Shastr    3     Prabhakar c McMillan b Donald    13
  playing forward, edge to slip       edge to 2nd slip, driving
Pringle lbw Kapil            33     More lbw Henry                    8
  ball straightened off seam          missed sweep, back pad
Schultz not out               0     Srinath not out                   1
Extras  (6lb, 7nb)           13     Extras(1b,9lb,3w,18nb)           31
                            254                                     277

The Indian team score does'nt add up to 277. Would this mean a small typo:
say, More 58???

Thanks in advance,
Sudhama
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject:  Help for CRICKET and CRICKETS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:14:27 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

           The machine vm1.nodak.edu will be offline from 6:00 pm (CST) on 25
th November to 8:am (CST) on 30th November because of the move of the Computer
Center to a new building. Is there anybody who can take over the mailing lists
- CRICKET and CRICKETS for those five days? They are the days on which we have
the second test between India and SA and the first test between West Indies and
Australia and I expect a fair bit of traffic on those lists. Hopefully, the
machine on which I am working will not have its ethernet connection (to
Internet) severed and the postings to rec.sport.cricket and
rec.sport.cricket.scores will not interrupted.

      There are about 500 subscribers to CRICKET and 400 subscribers to
CRICKETS. If anybody is willing to arrange for mailing to these subscribers,
please send me e-mail.


      
K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 19:43:33 CST
From: <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: century on debut

Who's Azhar?

ps: forgive me, if you left India before, or started following cricket
after , 1984.
From: aa2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Abid Aziz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pak. - W.Indies Tour
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:52:40 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If anyone knows the exact schedule of the Pakistan tour to the West
Indies this coming spring please post it on the bboard.
From: percival@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Australian team selected 
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:41:27 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

The First test team for Australia has just been announced with the only
minor suprise being that there has been no opener selected to partner
Taylor, leaving David Boon the task of facing the new ball.

The team is;

Taylor
Boon
Jones
Border
S.Waugh 
M.Waugh
Martyn
Healy
Greg Matthews
Hughes
McDermott
Reid

I believe that the 12th man will probably be Greg Matthews as with Allan
Borders five wickets in the shield match against Victoria he has again
been proved more than handy as a spinner and the GABBA wicket is unlikly 
to be overly kind to spinners this week anyway.  This will also give the
Australians a much stronger batting lineup which could not hurt against
a team like the West Indies.


Robert Verhoeve
email - percival@qut.edu.au
From: patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: First ball dismissal
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:02:13 -0600
Summary: debut
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Nov17.233941.22792@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
> In article 4117@memstvx1.memst.edu,  patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>>If I remember right, Gavaskar was out first ball to Imran Khan. That
>>was Gavaskar's last series. May be I am wrong. Can anyone clarify.
>>
>>Narasimha Rao P.
> 
> The original assertion was : a batsman playing in his first test match, gets 
> out to the first ball of the match. 
> 
> Jimmy Cook's dismissal  may in fact be the only instance of such an occurrence. 
> 
> 
> 	--SAN
> 

You are right, sir. I had somehow missed the word "debut" in the original
poster. Thanks for pointing it out.

Cheers
Narasimha Rao P.

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From: 000087384@ucis.vill.edu (GUNNA, SANDEEP)
Subject:  SAI vs India
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Villanova University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:58:00 GMT

In article <168A7C580.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za>, 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes...
>I think reality is going to hit home when the Indians find the going tough
>at the Wanderers. Praveen Amre had bailed them out in the first test, and
>again against the Presidents X1, but how long can this continue for?
> 

Hey BTW, what is the score of the 3 (is it 4) day match between India
and Presidents XI. I mean, last i got was the first days score and thats 
all. Is the match still going on or is it rain all the way.
waiting

/sandeep
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From: yelton@uful08.phys.ufl.edu (John M. Yelton)
Subject: Re: Flogging dead chinamen (sic)
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:58:50 GMT

In article <01GRDOTDJYHU9859BS@ccmail.sunysb.edu> ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley) writes:
>
>               State University of New York at Stony Brook
>                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-2275
>
>
>PS Still noone can name just one LH WRIST spinner !! Surely there must have been 
>one somewhere, even if not in test cricket. If so did he have a chinaman?
>
I thought that it was said (though maybe not certain) that the 
Chinaman was named after E.E. Achong ("puss"), a West Indian
of Chinese ancestry who bowled left arm wrist spin (including the
"wrong-un"). He played in tests in early 30's and also in Lancashire
Leagues.
  John Yelton


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From: u9148124@cs.uow.edu.au (Adam Erik Ragland)
Subject: Windies are world beaters again
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:10:56 GMT

The West Indians are here again and they are back to being world beaters again
Last year when they came out they had just lost the likes of Greenidge, Viv
and Dujon which hurt em bad. they needed time to recover and they have had it.
Quick run down of how they shape up in different areas and who i think should
be in the test side.
Openers
-------
Haynes :	Speaks for himself.
Simmons :  	He got a century against the Aust XI but he failed a bit b4
that, maybe Lara but id hate to see his talent wasted by making him open,
cant see Wallace getting a good look in here.
Richardson :	Still beleive hes one of the best batsmen in the world
Lara : 		Easily the most promising batsman in the world
Hooper/Adams :	Hooper was one of the most promising Batsmen the Windies had
seen 3 years ago. He reminds me of Mark Waugh he comes in strokes the ball
beautifully for a few overs and then gets out doing something dumb. Adams
is steady and could steady the Windies much the same way as Larry Gomes did
so brilliantly for so long. Both can bowl too, but i feel Hooper is a better
bowler than Adams so maybe hell get a spot ahead of him.
Logie :		Hes gotta be in the side he gives the Windies an extra flair
with his energetic fielding and batting. Arthurton could get a look in but
hes carded a few failures lately.
Ambrose :	If Ambrose can improve on the way he was bowling on his first
tour of Australia when he was still green he will worry the Aussies all
summer. And hes learning to bat too. Well he can back a little.
Bishop : Supposedly the fieriest bowler in the world. Maybe he wont get injured
this year and bowl well. *shrug*
Williams :	When will the windies realise that the reason they won alot of
close matches b4 was coz Dujon was an extra batsman as well as a wickie.
Williams is undoubtedly a better keeper but he cnat bat for shit.
Cummins :	Should be in the side, he bowled well last year and for most
of this year. And courtney Walsh just gets smashed everywhere. Walsh will
probably get this spot.
Patterson :	Rambo's back and still has to live up to his nickname. Hes
quick and if he's in the side with Bishop,Walsh/Cummins and Ambrose and they
all bowl well, the windies could have a four pronged pace attack to remind
the aussies of the days when Marshall,Holding,Roberts and Garner ripped em
apart.
So the side i'd pick would be as follows :-

Haynes
Simmons
Richardson
Lara
Hooper
Logie
Ambrose
Williams
Bishop
Cummins (but Walsh will get this spot)
Patterson


ps wasnt it a sight for sore eyes seeing Merv get smashed all around Bellerive
Oval and just stand there with his hands on his hips watching balls crash into
the fences.
Xref: sparky rec.sport.cricket:16770 soc.culture.pakistan:17027
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Pakistanis' Schedule in Australia
Date: 22 Nov 92 07:44:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <9211220534.12771@munnari.oz.au> khanzu@ac.wfunet.wfu.EDU (Zaki Khan) writes:
>
>     Hi there kids!  This is the Pakistan Sports Desk reporting live from the 
>campus of Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, NC.

And, for those of you who are unfamiliar with Wake Forest University,
let us just say that it has spawned some of the greatest Pakistani
teachers and researchers in the last couple of decades. 

        Salman [learn-research-teach] Azhar



-- 
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 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
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