From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Sexuality
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:17:52 GMT
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rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:
> I suggest that It be preached throughout the world that Walter Smith
> is a fool, and will spend eternity in non-existant hell. Is this 
> discriminatory?

No, its silly.  I'm sure there are plenty of people here who think 
that, but so what?  Am I supposed to be crushed by this?  there are 
plenty of people here who think my religion is a crock; they are 
perfectly entitled to that opinion.  I've even had people tell me 
that *my* attitude causes other people to kill themselves.  THAT 
is worse than *anything* me, Cramer, or anyone else I've seen post 
here.  But is it persecution?  No.  I don't expect people to agree 
with me, and I'm not out to convert anyone.  And I haven't *once* 
said that gays will spend an eternity in hell.  
 
> >Oh, I didn't realize I was dealing with a Christian-phobe...
> >
> 
> You would have to be pretty ignorant not to be scared of the christian 
> fundamentalist movement. Ever visited Iran, Walter? 

Yes, and the *average* christian is NOT a fundie.  Is the *average* 
gay a member of NAMBLA??  I just can't believe that people who are 
constantly subjected to stereotyping and negative generalizations 
fall so quickly into it themselves.   Everything I read here paints 
all Christians as gay-hating fundies, and shows no concept for how 
*average* christians think.  

> Different
> religion, same attitude. I'll bet you wouldn't approve of it. You 
> might even hate Islamic fundamentalists for their acts of terrorism
> and denial of human rights.

I don't like it at all.  Then again, I don't like Christian fundamentalism, 
either.   Doesn't mean I can't be friends with one, though.  This is one 
of the things that gets me about what I'm reading.  I've seen gay people 
saying that they cannot be friends with someone who things homosexuality 
is 'bad'.  Even saw one guy who disagreed (he said he could be friends 
with people who thought his homosexuality wasn't 'acceptable' or whatever
word he used) and the guy actually got flamed for it!  People told him 
he shouldn't be friends with people who didn't accept his 'sexuality'. 
From what I'm seeing, the gay people represented here are *far* more 
intolerant of others and their views than people are to them.  Maybe 
that's why they think everyone hates them, because they are projecting 
their way of thinking onto their (percieved) enemies??  It really makes 
me *sad*.  I would have no problem being friends with someone who was 
gay, and talking about gay issues with them; but they (if they were 
most of the people who have posted on that subject here) wouldn't 
with me.  
> 
> If you ment love in some other manner than I inferred, then i 
> apologize. You must in that case be a truly great person, to love
> those you hate.

No, Rob, plenty of very ordinary people can love, respect, whatever 
people they disagree with, or who do things they don't like.  And most 
people don't go around *hating* others.  People who do carry that 
kind of an attitude concern me. 


Walter

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