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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:09:53 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LW listened to PG

On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:39:44 PST Mike said:
>I don't really have any of my songs copyrighted legally, so
>I'm in deep doo-doo if I eventually hear one of my songs
>coming out of the car next to mine, and the announcer says
>the song is the latest release from John Denver, or something of the
>like.  Boy, I hate when that happens... ;)
>
Copyrighting is easy:  Just put the little copyright symbol on the ms. &
a date.  Or just say, "Copyright 19xx" or whatever.  *Registering* a copyright
with Uncle Sammy is slightly more difficult & possibly what you were thinking
about as "legally" up there.  You have to pay a few bucks, but you have a
little more protection in court, as there then exists an official record of
your copyright which you can use to prove author/ownership, should it come
to that.  Of course, if I found one of my songs attributed to Denver, I
might be inclined to let the matter lie. . . (-:
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:33:52 EDT
From:         BLAIDA@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Tough crowd

Hi all..
   Well.. another newbie here... Anyway.. this is my first post so
remeber that NETIGUETTE Balogna and don't cut me any slack... Okay kids..
for my first post I would like to ask a question...
And that question is...

Who put the Bomp in the Bomp-she-bomp-she-bomp???

Madness Reigns!!!!!
\
In The Hall Of The Mountain King!!!!

--Genghis
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:19:38 -0500
From:         I Dream in Infrared <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      It's after midnight...

A few things here, first off: check your magazines and TV guides. The BMG
CD Club is offering a special GET 10 for the price of 1/2 deal. You start out
with 6, buy 1 at half-price, then get 3 more "free". If you can find stuff
you want, this is an incredible deal. It seems recently they have expanded
their selection (atleast for stuff that I want), so I'm joining, again!

Second, I borrowed a few of my brother's CDs. 1) toad the wet sprocket _fear_
2) Soul Asylum _Grave Dancers Union_ 3) Dramarama _Vinyl_. I've only
listened to these once and had to return them already, but they all sound
like winners to me! This is crazy because these are part of a genre of music
that I have resisted in the past. The Alternative / Modern Rock stuff has
never really done anything for me. It always kinda bored me.

But hey, times change. _fear_ is definitely on my list. There are not too many
albums I've heard that I can say I like *every* song after the first listen.
The singer has an incredibly powerful voice. Wow! What's his name? The credits
list 3 people as doing the vocals.

I must admit I originally heard songs by toad and Soul on MTV (120 Minutes)
first. In fact, I recommended these 2 CDs to my brother after seeing the
videos. So, chalk up 2 more for eMpTyVee.

Who knows, maybe I'll finally acquire a liking for REM......nah :-)

I also borrowed from him the _Singles_ soundtrack. Pearl Jam,Mother Love Bone,
Soundgarden, Chris Cornell solo, Alice In Chains, Jimi Hendrix, Mudhoney,
Screaming Trees, a cover (lame one) of Zep's "Battle Of Evermore", etc, all on
one recording. Put this on my list too!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From Hendrik Jan Veenstra
Subject:      Re: so far, even better

>>...and anyone else I failed to notice in the list of addresses...

>This again raises a question I've asked myself various times in the past.
>I sometimes get the impression that you AMers think that the only people
>reading the list are those that appear in the subscribers-list.

No, I knew this. But, I have no way of knowing who else reads this list.
I only have the address list to use as a guide. However, this should by no
means infer that only people on the address list may participate. Anyone may
participate.

Yet another old-timer has joined the ALLMUSIC compilation tape festivities.
CarolThumperLibbyO'Lickme has expressed interest. REMEMBER, get your songs to
me via e-mail by Tuesday!!!

Oh, wait, this just in. Yet another, EdD has submitted his songs, and in his
poetic form to boot! Teeheee! 30 interested parties now!

Seeya,                                          gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil
Gary, sportin' some wood                        ct316@cleveland.Freenet.edu
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:06:38 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: new year's revolutions

On Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:07:51 EST jc-s said:
>Just thought i'd share with y'all
>one of my resolutions for this, the year
>nineteenhundredandninetythree.
>
>I will buy one new cd every week.
>To remind me that music is constantly evolving.

I have a similar one, but mine's to *limit* myself to one a week (or so),
so that I can buy stuff like clothes, new contact lenses for my weakening
eyes, and other frivolous stuff :-)

I also resolve to spend some time practicing on my new keyboard. (Sorry Big
Al, couldn't handle the cash required for a used piano, especially when my
folks have a baby grand I can probably talk them out of.) Picked up a Yamaha
PSR-300, started playing some scales and chords, and quickly felt an excitment
about trying some sounds. My ears wanted me to do things - I wasn't sure just
what they were or how to get there, but there seemed to be something going on
in my head, some logic of some sort, so that was encouraging. Gotta lotta work
to do though :-)

Paul
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From: jkh2001@andy.bgsu.edu (King Jeremy the Wicked)
Subject: Re: Boners for Bono
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:33:43 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%93010814571549@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>, Tim Johnson
<ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET> wrote:
> 
> >I didn't like the Bono in a restaurant one --
> >it seemed too self-indulgent, like a look-at-me-aren't-I-a-stud-meister
> >video...
> 
>   I've seen one U2 video from achtung baby.  And Carol's
> right.  Bono is really getting off on the sex symbol thang.
> What a loser.  He should go back to making political stuff,
> instead of selling his own useless bod through his music.
> (An interesting twist, though, on most MTV shlock.  Selling
> sex appeal through music instead of the reverse.)
> 
>                                  -Tim
Tim,
I've got to agree with you.  I think Bono is a little full of himself these
days.  U2's music was much better when they were politically motivated. 
The new stuff is OK, but I think Bono should crawl into a hole and not
return until the swelling in his head has subsided.

King Jeremy the Wicked

"Honey, I'm home!!"
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Saving up your Xmas money

Gary Hanley's list of favorites reminded me of two albums I recently
saw a January 26 (?) release date for: Van Halen live (2 CDs) and
ELP live (2 CDs).  Yum!

Santa was very good to me.  I got a 4-track and a mic.  I did a
recording of a song I wrote years ago and sang on the tape :-(
Anyway, by the time I double-tracked it and sent it through my
effects box a few times it didn't sound all that vile.

I don't know if I jabbered about this before Xmas, but I decided
that if I'm going to spend >= $400 on a tape deck, it might as
well be a 4-track.  So my tape dubbing problem is finally solved,
and you won't have to skip over any more of my whining about
how I can't dub tapes.  Now if only they made C-180 tapes, I
could record on the 4-track at 3.75 ips (the only way the 4-track
captures all the highs).

I suspect I'll either look for C-120s so I can dub to C-60s, or else
do some stopwatch work so I can dub from 2 masters to C-90s.

Of course the kids have figured out that you can turn over a 4-track
tape and record "backwards masked" messages.  One version of my
song has a hidden message: "My lord Satan says watch Club Dance
then kill yourself."

If anybody wants to find out about backwards messages on his/her
favorite records, let me know.

I'm also gonna try to do that _Twin Peaks_ dwarf-speak thing.  I'll
let you know how it comes out.

Rotcod Zzaj gave me a call from Korea apologizing for not having
had time to visit when he came to Huntsville.  Apparently the
plane's wheels hit the ground, he jumped into the studio, and
got back on the plane as soon as he finished.  Anyway, Dick, I'm
gonna be mad if you do that again -- hell, I'll be mad if you don't
stay with us.

Has anybody heard the new NiN EP _Fixed_?
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:20:36 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Newbie slack (Ken)

On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:39:11 -0500 <HLC2@PSUADMIN> said:
>I'm the youngest of six. Lay it on me. ;-)
>
>Heather

You *dare* to tell me this, after my review of =The Art of the Bawdy Song=?
Carol--Sonia--Marsha--*someone* hold me back, please; I'm outa control this
afternoon (-:
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:18:00 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Rick Danko

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:52:45 CST Leonard said:
>Rick Danko is coming to town this weekend , has anyone seen him as a
>solo act. I know about Robertson & Helm and what they meant to The Band,
>but i'm not sure what Danko's contributions were, can someone enlighten
>me. ....................L. "The Clueless Wonder" W.

Rick Danko, one of the great bass players in the tradition of James Jamerson.
Also a very good and underappreciated vocalist. His singing was kind of
overshadowed by the more distinctive Messrs. Manuel and Helm, but he got
off some good ones. Check "The Unfaithful Servant" (from _The Band_ or
especially from _Rock of Ages_) and "It Makes No Difference" (from _Northern
Lights Southern Cross_) for examples of his fine singing. For playing, well,
just about any of their tunes will do, and I think Danko and Helm were the
finest rhythm section in rock & roll history. Specifically, listen to "Baby,
Don't Do It" (_Rock of Ages_ again), or "Just Another Whistlestop" (_Stage
Fright_). For that matter, "Yazoo Street Scandal", an early Band number from
_The Basement Tapes_.

He also plays the fiddle and mandolin, and is a walking encyclopedia of
old-time country music and Western swing.

Rick's a great showman, and if he's having a good time on stage, everyone
will know it. He can be a real card, a real cut-up, and he's always had a
reputation as a maximum party animal, but don't get me wrong. He is a
consummate musician, and could play all night on the deck of a sinking ship
in a hurricane without missing a note.

Who's he playing with? Sometimes he's been known to be lazy, and will not
put out a real effort unless he's working with top musicians. I saw some
shows he did with the late Paul Butterfield, another good-time guy whose
work ethic was often lacking, and those shows could be very sloppy. But
when he's on, he can crank it out. Of course, I haven't seen him play in
almost ten years, not since the first Band reunion in 1983 (at the Agora
Ballroom in Hartford, Connecticut, incidentally). Maybe things have changed,
but I doubt it. Should be a good show.

David
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:39:11 -0500
From:         HLC2@PSUADMIN.BITNET
Subject:      Newbie slack (Ken)

I'm the youngest of six. Lay it on me. ;-)

Heather
[the newbie]
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:50:41 EST
From:         Alexis Naranjo <anaranjo@ECUANEX.EC>
Subject:      Re: Cortazar &holiveira
              92 4:35 pm

loved your answer, this is Alex & Gino' would like to get on\ about julios
outgoing thread on jazz and all sorts of giglic music. Ever eard of it?
.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:18:50 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Saffire degrades men

I thought i read where someone said that Saffire was degrading toward men.
I was wondering what song you are referring to, i kinda like Saffire the
local record store sales them pretty well so i'm not alone. If your worried
about someone being degraded i think women have been degraded about as much
as anyone can be by music...............L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:44:55 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: _Love, Devotion and Surrender_

>   They do a nice acoustic version of _Naima_ and extended versions of _Let
>Us Go Into The House of The Lord_ and _A Love Supreme_ (yes, *that* one).
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Carlos played it at least once during his tour this past summer.  I seem
to remember a recent 'view with Santana where he puts down Chimnoy et al
as lightweights.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:43:46 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Gales mystery

On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:06:57 -0500 <HLC2@PSUADMIN> said:
>Eric Gales *is* young -- or at least he was when the critics first sniffed him
>out. On the debut album Paul talked about, Eric Gales is the one wearing the
>SRV-style hat.

Ah, I thought so. Mystery solved, and there are two of 'em. Actually, I think
there's Eric Gale*s* (the young dude) and Eric Gale (the older guy, with no
's'). Eric Gale played in band named Stuff, with Steve Gadd and some other
folks, and was apparently no slouch on the guitar himself.

>Heather
>[new to the list, but thought it would be safe to come out and play anyway]

You're doing great! Much less clueless than many newbies (pssst... if anybody
says something about 'metal apposes', it's a joke ;-)

Can I make an advance nomination for potential '93 best newcomer (or hot
blues lovin' babe, whichever ;-)?

Paul
(who's glad he persuaded the Fair Heather to try out ALLMUSIC :-)
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:25:04 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: i'm goin' down to cali... to cali... to cali...

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:21:18 MST Thumper said:
>
>P.S.  Are there any people on this list (lurkers and all) that are from New
>Orleans or pretty familiar with the Big Easy?  If so... write me!

I'm an hour north, in Baton Rouge. The 2 best places to check (as far as I
know) are Tipitina's and Charlie B.'s. Tip's has more rock shows, lots of
college/alternative stuff, plus some big name R&B, blues etc. now and then.
Charlie B.'s is good for jazz & blues. I have a couple of good contacts down
there - if you want some more info, email me. Oh, another place that's not
too bad is Snug Harbor, but it's pretty cramped (as is Tip's if anybody good
is playing).

Paul
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:45:33 CST
From:         Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      school

    Okay, before everyone freaks over my choice of courses this
quarter lemme 'splain just what my rock & roll class is gonna be.  (I
had my first class yesterday)
    There are six books for the course:
    _Sound of the City_ Gillette
    _Blues People_ Leroi Jones
    _Lady Sings the Blues_ Billy Holiday and some ghost writer
(McDuff?)
    _Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas_ Hunter S. Thompson
    _Ma Rainey's Black Bottom_ ???
    _Mumbo Jumbo_ Ishmael Reed

    Emphasis on the course is going to be on the influence of Black
music in America and how the subseguent Rock & Roll sound created a
world wide revolution in music and sound.  Recordings and music will
play a vital roll in the course.  I've already made contacts at the
downtown library to locate recordings of early blues, jazz and rock
and roll as a primer for me in this course.

***Idea for a self indulgent Allmusic exercise***

    Hey!  How about you guys sending me you're favorites in early
American Music?  I'm looking at a time frame running from the 1920's
on up to about 1959.  I'm already familiar with most of what happened
after 1960 so what I want is the really early stuff.  This can be my
Allmusic primer into rock and roll.
********************************************************************

    I'm not too worried about the sacrifice of music to lyrics.
Neither of these professors claim any musical talent but both are
avid enthusiasts and promise a greater emphasis on the sounds and
music and their social impacts than the lyrics themselves.  Both
agree that by and large rock and roll lyrics and usually best
described as filler.
    Looks like fun to me.






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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:51:27 EST
From:         spideroni <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: No Cameras Allowed

one possible argument for use of cameras (and, by similarity, sound
recording devices) at a concert is this: when you purchase the ticket,
you are purchasing the entire performance experience. in essence, the
performer is selling you *that* performance. thus, you should be able
to preserve it for yourself, if you desire, both visually and aurally.

of course, the performer will still have the rights to the songs, so
you couldn't make megabucks off selling a judas and natasha concert to
their slobbering fans. however, there is possible reason to believe that
an audience could take pictures or dub the performance for personal
use only.

this is a ballsy position to take, but i think that it's reasonable. of
course, i'm not a lawyer either.

woj
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Subject: Re: Free country?? I'd beg to differ...
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:02:41 GMT
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>>what instrument is the STRANGEST instrument you have ever heard
>>in a song, and which song was it featured in?

Buy almost any Einsturzende Neubaten album.
piece of metal with a sledgehammer or a compressed air hammer a musical
Schmerzen Horen Seb
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:31:52 EST
From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hang The World: Musician flirts with the f

>From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
>
>On Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:03:09 EST <MMORSE@YORKVM1> said:
>>Island Collection," and all their cousins a HUGE fucking rest? Can anyone
>>name ONE single POSITIVE accomplishment of this weenie-wagging foolishness?
>>(Ah-HUH! I thought not..)
>
>Glad you asked ...I was turned on to Miles  Davis, Hank Crawford, and have
>more respect for Peter Gabrial, I have realized that alot of people Live &
>breathe music. Most of all i've got to netverse with several very intelligent
>people and have seen alot of different perspectives on a variety of subjects
>Let me know if you need more..........L.W.

Well, you know i was just about to respond to MMORSE's post and say
well, mike, these stoopit contests only prove to separate the
chaff from the rest of us, but it looks like i don't have to now.

For our weekly cd purchase, the Marine picked up the Sugar cd, named
Copper Blue. what a great piece of work!  Classic guitar pop. will
post a review later when i'm at home next to the cd player.

This week i get to pick the cd, and i'm just not sure what i want
yet.  I toyed with the idea of fleshing out my classical shelf,
but i think my pop shelf still needs work, or perhaps my ethnic
section. any suggestions?

jenna cole-steele
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:07:39 PST
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cadence and cascade

Mike Bloom and others,

Which CD of Joni Mitchell do you recommend for the best
Jaco performances?

Mike
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:23:04 EST
From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tough crowd

>
>Hi all..
>   Well.. another newbie here... Anyway.. this is my first post so
>remeber that NETIGUETTE Balogna and don't cut me any slack... Okay kids..
>for my first post I would like to ask a question...
>And that question is...
>
>Who put the Bomp in the Bomp-she-bomp-she-bomp???
>
>Madness Reigns!!!!!
>\
>In The Hall Of The Mountain King!!!!
>
>--Genghis

oh great. just what we need.

sighingly,
allmusic dominatrix
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:33:55 EST
From:         spideroni <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      barry publications
              4 Jan 1993 23:16:43 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

Gary M Gettier sez:
>   They want me to send them $5, and they will send me info on how to get
>   free albums, tickets, etc. from audio industries. They claim they're so
>   good at it (getting free stuff) that they, at one time, had to throw stuff
>   away because they had so much. Now, they are sharing with the rest of us.

how nice of them.

i find it hard to believe that they actually *threw* stuff away since there
is a large market for some of the more collectible promotional items that
record companies release to radio stations and record stores (then again,
there are a lot of promotional tapes that i used to get when i was working
radio which i would never listen to and use to record other stuff onto).

however, it is entirely possible that barry publications has some sources
that they might be able to share with others (for a price of course, so is
it really free?). at many a record swap meet, you can find tons of promotional
releases for nearly nothing (new cds for $4 and so on - *new* not cut outs).

i would say that it's worth forking over $5 to find out what they know. it
may not be ultimately useful to you, but there's a good chance that they
might have something which you will use once or twice and get something.

post the address here - i'm curious enough to send them $5.

woj
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