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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Steppe vs. Dream Park
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 21:54:17 GMT


I really enjoyed Steppe, myself.  It was one of the first P.A. books
I ever read, after Xanth.

Now, several years and lots of books later, it is interesting how much
Larry Niven and Steven Barnes' DREAM PARK resembles Steppe, in the con-
cept at least.  If you've read 'em both, you'll know what I mean.  They
both concentrate heavily on what could be called (though I'm not sure
P.A. knew about them then) role-playing games.  Niven's actually has 
more gaming references from D&D, since he actually based his book on
that game.  It's probably a coincidence, but a fascinating one all the 
same.

---Chris Meadows
From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: The meaning of Xanth.
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:01:07 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <w15oqB1w165w@eternal.chi.il.us> jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
>     In reading 'Panties, I noticed many things told from a "child's"
>point of view. From this, it is my belief that members of the Adult
>Conspiracy that have forgotten what it is like to not be a member of the
>Conspiracy, or those who take life too seriously, tend not to like Xanth--
>It reminds them of the innocence of youth. Personally, that's why I love
>the series. It's good clean reading, good clean fun, with no real
>complications of real life.

 I think that you're missing the point. "A Spell for Chameleon" was 
considered one of the best fantasy novels of the year when it was introduced.
Few people other than Xanth fanatics would consider the later Xanth books
anywhere near as good.
  Even standing on their own, I don't particularly find reading later
Xanth interesting. The stories and characterization just seem a bit 
"simple" to me. The stories aren't that interesting, and the humor
can't carry the books on it's own.

> In a world with so many complications and
>anxieties, a little bit of "childish" humor is just fine with me.

  For "childish" humor, I watch TTA, Beetlejuice (Better puns! More puns!),
or DarkWing Duck. For odd humor, I read comic books like "The Tick" or
"Sam & Max." But then, when I roomed with a math major, we watched
"MathNet." I think that all of these have more substance than the more
recent Xanth novels.
-- 
Mike Swaim            | Canada will become the next world power
swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | and they will work to ENSLAVE all the nations
Disclamer: I lie      | of your planet. -Ricardo
Cthulhu in '92! The stars are right!
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: The meaning of Xanth.
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:20:31 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...


     I've only recently started reading this group, but have already heard
the "arguments" about the viability of Xanth in from the Adult
Conspiracy's point of view. I just got The Color of Her Panties, and now
understand why people have such a problem with Xanth. (well, ok, not just
now, but 'Panties reinforced the following.)

     In reading 'Panties, I noticed many things told from a "child's"
point of view. From this, it is my belief that members of the Adult
Conspiracy that have forgotten what it is like to not be a member of the
Conspiracy, or those who take life too seriously, tend not to like Xanth--
It reminds them of the innocence of youth. Personally, that's why I love
the series. It's good clean reading, good clean fun, with no real
complications of real life. In a world with so many complications and
anxieties, a little bit of "childish" humor is just fine with me. It helps
to put things back in perspective. Yes, I'm a kid at heart, so maybe that
has somethign to do with it, but reading Xanth is like taking time to
smell the roses. JMO....


                              Jeff

...Just my $.02, less 6.75% sales tax, adjusted for inflation.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: aaronson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Aaronson)
Subject: Series that get worse
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:18:39 GMT

Has Piers Anthony ever written a series that got better as it progressed?
Cluster maybe, but I can't think of another one.



 
-- 
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From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: Xanth
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:02:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

>in order, so... what is the Order???
>API  (yes, my nickname is the same as the popular programming phrase).

I don't know if there is an FAQ for this base, so I'll list them here:
(By the way, they are usually listed in order inside the books themselves)

1)A Spell for Chameleon
2)The Source of Magic
3)Castle Roogna
4)Centaur Isle
5)Ogre, Ogre (I may have 4&5 backwards, I don't have the books in front of me)
6)Night Mare
7)Dragon on a Pedistal
8)Crewl Lye {A Caustic Yarn}
9)Golem in the Gears
10)Man from Mundania
11)Vale of the Vole
12)Heaven Cent
13)Question Quest
14)Isle of View
15)The Color of her Panties

If I made any mistakes in the order, I'm sorry, and will someone else correct
them?
--Matthew
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: The Pelt (Re: Haymaker and XENOfon)
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:22:38 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <715955062.F00001@mcws.fidonet.org>, Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Kay Shapero) writes:
> I'm more interested in The Pelt.  If it's actually started publishing now,
> what does it cost and where do you write for a copy?

Well, you see, I'm not entirely *sure* about that.  Mark J. Paul dropped off a
copy while he was passing through on his way to Minnesota, and stopped by to
pick up a mini-comic that I illustrated for him.  So, I don't really have the
benefit of a price-tag. =)  However, I'll just extract a paragraph from the
back...

"The Pelt is a monthly private correspondence newsletter made available to all
funny animal fans for the cost of production.  It is published and editor by
Mark J. Paul, 450 Forrest Ave., Apt. A203, Norristown, PA  19401-5626.  All
contents are (c) Mark J. Paul and each individual contributor where noted..."

The copy I have is 3 pages (two pieces of paper), and I have no idea whether
this will be the normal size or not.  I *think* Mark J. Paul is intending on
working on an account basis, and cost of each "issue" is in terms of cents --
I'd estimate at least 49 cents to cover the postage and the copying costs I
keep hearing that other people have to suffer...  Anyway, it's strictly a
newsletter, just nicely arranged and laserprinted.  No fancy graphics or
anything.  (I might send him a few doodles to stick on the margins or
something, though.  =)  Heh.)

-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
Xref: sparky alt.fan.furry:2028 alt.tv.tiny-toon:3973
From: rabbit@buster2.Michigan.COM
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: How to get the MORTIMER Story
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:24:33 GMT
Reply-To: rabbit
Followup-To: alt.fan.furry

This posting was made automatically by machine. It will appear once
a week or so. Direct any questions to rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM

-------

The MORTIMER story can be retreived from a special archive server
(the Mort-Server) To request a part of the MORTIMER  story,  send 
mail  to one  of  the  addresses  below.  Put   your  request  on 
the Subject: line of your message. Requests are can be the in the
following form:

    ALL - (in upper case) will cause the entire story to be sent
          to you. 

    n   - (where n is an integer) will cause part one to be sent

 n,m... - (where n and m, etc are integers) will cause parts n, m
          and so forth, to be sent.

You may send your request to any of the following addresses:

     MORTIMER@Buster.Michigan.COM
     MORTIMER@Babs.Michigan.COM
     MORTIMER@Plucky.Michigan.COM
     MORTIMER@Hamton.Michigan.COM
     MORTIMER@McLoon.Michigan.COM
     MORTIMER@Elmyra.Michigan.COM

If you send off a request and don't get a response within 5 days, 
send e-mail to the sysop here (NOT ME!!). His address is:

     ARCHIVER@Michigan.COM
From: pluck@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Thomas Pluck)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Furry comix for sale!
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:47:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have one copy each of the following comics & etc. for sale.

Marion Fox Special #4   $1.50
Xanadu #1  $2.00
Critters -- #15  $2.00
	    #22  $2.00
            #19  $2.00
	    #21  $2.00
	    #24  $2.00
            #28  $2.00
            #29  $2.00
            #32  $2.00
Anything Goes #6  $2.00
Morphs #1  $2.00
Furrlough #4  $2.50
John Jackal & the Uninvited $3.00
Omaha #4  $2.50
      #5  $2.50
      #6  $2.00

Postage is 50 cents first item, 25 cents each thereafter.

E-mail me to reserve anything.
Thank you!
Tom
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Tezuka ftp?
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:51:14 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

 I think the file you were refering to was, in fact, called Slavebunny.gif;
there was no file sexybuny.gif there (at least, before someone uploaded a 2
byte version which would have deleted it); the Slavebunny file fits the
description of the picture you posted, and is certainly in the right style. 

 (also, it is by the same person who's been uploading the huge tiff files; they
seem to be perfectly happy to ignore copyright; at least, going on the
Albedo/Omaha scans they've been doing.)

 Anyway, they've now been overwritten.

-- 
Daniel Mitchell |fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu| 18, High St
     aka        |m91djm@ecs.ox.ac.uk          | Earls Colne
Fenthe Marten   |dmitchell@cix.compulink.co.uk| Essex CO6 2PA
                `---bisexual furry juggler----' ENGLAND
From: pluck@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Thomas Pluck)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Gif ftp sites besides tezuka
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:51:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hello. 
	I was wondering if anyone knows of any FTP sites, besides tezuka where
one might find wildlife .gifs and the like. One is wuarchive.wustl.edu, in
/pub/graphics/gif, and the mirrors directories, and vitruvius.cecer.army
is supposed to have many gifs of birds. If you know of any other sites, 
please post them here or e-mail me the address. Thank you!
		-Tom  [aka Roxiana and Japhet on furrymuck]
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Haymaker and XENOfon
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:09:34 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In an excerpt from a mailing I got from Mark J. Paul (from "The Pelt"), it
lists a new publication accepting members, listed as an "APA (?)", so I'm not
sure at all what its format is.  Thought I'd dutifully echo the info in case
there is anybody who might want to check into it:

Haymaker
c/o James Davis
1502 S. 32nd Ave.
Omaha, NE  68105

According to the listing, it will accept furry scenarios and characters, and
runs G to PG material, and is listed as a "Champion APA (?)", whatever THAT
means...

Also in the Pelt, it lists an entry for XENOfon, Colleen Winters'
horse-oriented 'zine, as recently having released issue #2.  Does anybody know
about this or where to write for more info?
-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
From: lycan@genie.geis.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Permission?
Date: 13 Sep 1992 16:45:45 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  Greetings All!
 
  I am a topic leader for the anthropomorphic comics section of the
Comics RoundTable on GEnie (p1320, Cat 38 & 39).
 
  I would like to place some of the 'tezuka.rest.ri.cmu.edu' GIFs
into our library on GEnie, but before I can do such, I must have the
the actual owners permission.  This permission requirment comes from
GEnie policy and my own policy, I will not distribute copyrighted
material.  The artwork must be your own.  GEnie will only allow G to
R rating GIFs to be in the library though.
 
  If you would like to see some of your GIFs distributed on GEnie as
well, please send me a list of filenames and any notes you would
like included in description of the file.  If you are an artist that
does commisions, we have a topic for the placement of ordering
information for others to see.
 
  You may reach me at 'lycan@genie.geis.com', uuencoding is ok, but
I can grab a file faster through other methods.
 
  And if you would like to drop by GEnie's Comics Roundtable, please
do, we are mild compared to most other furry boards, kinda a matured
section... ;)=  But we welcome all!
 
 
                                                     Lycan ;)=
 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Tezuka ftp?
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:13:29 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org writes:

>One of Taral Wayne's pieces was apparently
>scanned without his approval and passed on to them, and I'd like to let
>them know about it.

In general, if you know that a picture should not have been placed at an
FTP site, you can remove it yourself by simply PUTting a file of the
identical name in the directory.  Given the speed with which the
administrators attend to that particular site, you will get a much faster
response if you just remove the file yourself.

-- 
#ifdef TRUE         | Fuzzy Fox                  fuzzy@netcom.com
#define  TRUE   0   | a.k.a. David DeSimone      an207@cleveland.freenet.edu
#define  FALSE  1   |
#endif              |         How's my posting?  Call 1-800-ALT-FLAME
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Haymaker and XENOfon
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:48:40 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <18eep4INNekh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High) writes:
> 
> Good god, not another Champions fan pub.  Ug.

Is this "Champions" as in the RPG of the same name?
> 
> Colleen Winters got out another issue of XENOfon?  Hm, I *just* 

I'm not really sure about that.  Could have been a typo or something.  The news
certainly surprised me (but then so did word that Tai-Pan #3 and #4 are
supposedly out ... even though I STILL have yet to see a copy.)

> recently saw a copy of #1 at DFF.  Big publication, and expensive,
> too.

10-12 bux or so, right?  Ouch.

>  Last I hreeard, she had moved - do anyone have her
> new address?  Thanks.  (oops, change that "do" above to "does")

Please let me know, too.  I think my equines have gotten a bit more refined
since the last time I wrote to her.  =)  At least I'd like to think so...

> Shesh, go away for a few days, and this place sure does get quiet...

Hey!  I try my best!  =)  Just haven't had much happening around here.  My
mailbox has seen no action (well, almost no) for the past 2-3 weeks or so. 
{sigh}
-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
From: bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Lots of neat comics for sale.
Date: 12 Sep 1992 00:17:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Just a brief list of what is available right now -

Fusion 1-17
Dreamery 1-14
Red Shetland 1-6
Equine 1-7
Rhudiprrt 1-6
Black Diamond Effect 1-5
Morphs 1-4
Tales from the Aniverse (Massive) 1-3
Furrlough 1-4
Command Review 1-3
Captain Jack 1-12
Xanadu 1-5 and the color special
Furkindred, Furkindred Otter Takes, Zu, Beauty of the Beast,
  Mean Green Bondo Machine, Mad Raccoons 1-2, Champion of
  Katara #1, Wild Kingdom 1

Fanzines -

Yarf! 1-19
Everchanging Palace 1-5
Red Shetland Portfolio 1-4
  " Cheesecake Portfolio 1-3
Furtherance 1-3
Bestiary 0-13
Furloose 1-6
Hey, Neeters! 1-7

Lots of other stuff, too!  Most of it is cover-price (if not all
  if it - I'll have to check).

Email me at bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu for details.

Cheers,

  - net.spy!
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Kay Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Haymaker and XENOfon
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:49:30 GMT

On <Sep 06 01:09>, GREYWOLF wrote to All:

 G>runs G to PG material, and is listed as a "Champion APA (?)", 
 G>whatever THAT
 G>means...

Presumably it's related to the superhero role playing game, Champions. 

I'm more interested in The Pelt.  If it's actually started publishing now,
what does it cost and where do you write for a copy?

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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Tezuka ftp?
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 08 Sep 92  08:45:56

Does anybody in here know who to contact at the Tezuka ftp site to tell
them about a pirate GIF?  One of Taral Wayne's pieces was apparently
scanned without his approval and passed on to them, and I'd like to let
them know about it.  The title of the picture (a slave bunny in chains,
I believe - I haven't seen it myself) is "Auction Block", and the gif is
entitled SEXYBUNY.GIF.

--- msged 2.06
From: bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Haymaker and XENOfon
Date: 7 Sep 1992 02:28:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Good god, not another Champions fan pub.  Ug.

Colleen Winters got out another issue of XENOfon?  Hm, I *just* 
recently saw a copy of #1 at DFF.  Big publication, and expensive,
too.  Last I hreeard, she had moved - do anyone have her
new address?  Thanks.  (oops, change that "do" above to "does")

  - net.spy!  (bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu)

Shesh, go away for a few days, and this place sure does get quiet...
From: robert@nope (Robert Serocki)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: FTP copyright violation (was Re: Tezuka ftp?)
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:16:11 GMT
Organization: ~/.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: nope.ucsd.edu

In article <BuFIx7.6Et@acsu.buffalo.edu> v148rb5b@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (COLLIN MCCULLEY) writes:
>
>>>First off, I don't have the Tezuka site address myself, and second, even
>>>if I did I cannot access ftp because I'm posting from FIDOnet through a
>>>gate. (Yes, I have read the instructions for accessing ftp and yes they
>>>do involve things I can't do by remote.)  If someone ELSE wants to do this
>>>though, I'm sure Taral would appreciate it.  The title is SEXYBUNY.GIF.
>>> 
>
>	I'm pretty familiar with the contents of tezuka, and I haven't seen
>a sexybuny.gif.  I have, however seen a "sexbunny.gif", but it doesn't
>sound like your original description (which if I recall involved chains).
>I suggest that, before anyone removes anything, they double check to make
>sure that the right .gif is removed.
>
>----------
>Collin McCulley		University at Buffalo 		Mech & Aero Eng.
>		***All the .sig that's print to fit***


     Well, I think the file is Slavebunny.gif. There's also a
     Slavebunny.tiff. Also also a Slavebunny.lzh in the q-s section. The
     first two're in uploads. I can't view .tiffs or .lzhs, double-check
     on the file contents if you like.
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Kay Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Tezuka ftp?
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:52:24 GMT

On <Sep 11 18:40>, JOHNSON, AARON FLEMING (1:102/851) wrote to All:

>gate. (Yes, I have read the instructions for accessing ftp and yes they
>do involve things I can't do by remote.)  If someone ELSE wants to do this
>though, I'm sure Taral would appreciate it.  The title is SEXYBUNY.GIF.
> 

 JA>Just a question.  What should one do if one has pulled a copy of 
 JA>this .gif off
 JA>of tezuka already?  Is this an illegality or something?

I don't know the legal ramifications; it's just that if it's the drawing
Taral Wayne did (apparently it's not the only gif floating around with 
that title), he has said he doesn't want it in circulation.  I'd suggest
using your own judgement.

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From: starcat@netcom.com (Solaris Gato)
Subject: Re: Haymaker and XENOfon
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 14:58:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep6.000934.6522@iscsvax.uni.edu> peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF) writes:
>Haymaker
>c/o James Davis
>1502 S. 32nd Ave.
>Omaha, NE  68105
>
>According to the listing, it will accept furry scenarios and characters, and
>runs G to PG material, and is listed as a "Champion APA (?)", whatever THAT
>means...

"Champions" is a Superhero Pencil and Paper role-playing game produced by
Hero Games, a division of Iron Crown Enterprises. That and the title of the
APA leads me to believe that it is a superhero APA. And by the listing it will,
as you say, accept furry scenarios and characters. 
 
Sorry if this happens to have been commented on already, but I am behind by
a week in the newsgroups.
 
-starcat
From: mhigh@TUSOL.CS.TRINITY.EDU (matthew high)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: The Great USENEt Comix Shop list
Date: 7 Sep 92 07:00:29 GMT

Hi ya'll.  Do you know of a good comics shop in your area that stocks a 
good selection of furry and/or independent comics?

If so, then let me know!  I'm compiling a list of independents-friendly
comics shops.  If possible, send me:

The name of the comic shop (or chain)
Address(es) or phone #(s)
A very brief descripton - one or two lines.  What do they specialize in?
  How big is the shop?  Lots of back issues?  Subscriptions service?  etc...

As soon as I get a healthy # of responses, I'll post the compiled list.

Thanks in advance!

  - net.spy!  (bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu)
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