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From: hlf@nic.cerf.net (Howard Ferguson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Statefull and stateless protocols.
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:12:31 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

I am not sure if this is the appropriate group for this question,
but I could not find anywhere better.

I am interested in finding out more about statefull and stateless 
protocols and how they are written and what features change a 
protocol from being sataeless. The only glimmer of knowledge I
have about them is that NFS is stateless and that this makes it far
more resilient to the conection being broken temporarily.

If any one knows of any texts or papers which discuss the topic
a reference would be greatly appreciated.

	hlf
From: choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Can I set the baud rate of an ftp transfer?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:48:05 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: skorpio.usask.ca

I'm using ftp on a unix machine. Is there a way to set or limit the
transmission rate?

-- 

Henry Choy
choy@cs.usask.ca

  What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs
  Rolls over your neighbor's dog?
  What's great for a snack and fits on your back?
  It's Log, Log, Log!      -- "The Log Song", from Ren & Stimpy

  Math is tough!           -- Barbie
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: Re: Help: MNP discussion group.
Followup-To: comp.protocols.misc
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:56:35 GMT

Well, since MNP is a modem protocol, I would suggest
comp.dcom.modems for your question.

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
From: sailesh@litsun.epfl.ch (Sailesh Chutani)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: question - performance and fault management in networks
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:47:41 GMT
Organization: Ecole polytechnique federale de Lausanne DI-LIT

Greetings!

I am trying to identify the problems that are considered to be the key
problems in the area of Network Management, going beyond CMIP, DME,
and SNMP etc.  In particular I am focusing attention on fault and
performance management issues at the transport layer. I would 
like to hear from people who are working in the related areas
or have some experience and/or ideas on the topic that they would like to
share.

The problems of interest for example, could be related to :
	- abstractions used to describe the system
	- protocol design, specification, and validation techniques
	- modelling and statistical techniques
	- framework for dealing with incomplete and erroneous information
	  on problems
	- gathering and analyis of problem related data
	- automation of detection and recovery
	- design of suitable interfaces to aid discovery, diagnosis and
	  recovery

I would prefer any feedback via e-mail. I shall post a summary
of the information thus collected.

Thanks for your help.

-Sailesh
From: johnmacd@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Mac Plus/MacTCP 1.1.1
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:17:19 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I'm trying to run Mac System 7.1 on some Mac Pluses. Does anyone know if 
the MacTCP 1.1.1 includes the mac Plus Tool fix or if the 1.1 patcher will 
work.

Thanks for any info.

-John MacDonald, Dalhousie University
From: mattis@elixir.e.kth.se (Mattis Andersson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: AppleTalk PC Card ?
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:37:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of EE, Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

Hi !

I am looking for information on how to program the AppleTalk PC Card.

Is there anyone who can direct me to a source of this kind of information ?
Books, files , anything which tells how to access it without the ATALK
driver program. (It is hard to use a MS-DOS driver when running UNIX)

Any help appreciated !


Mattis Andersson

mattis@elixir.e.kth.se
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: wdburns@mtu.edu (BURNS)
Subject: Does CAP do this?
Keywords: spooling, capture, printing
Organization: CCLI Macintosh Lab, Michigan Tech University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:14:01 GMT

Perhaps this is in the FAQ, but I don't know where the FAQ is?
(Is the location of the FAQ in the FAQ? :)

Hey all...I'm quite familiar with Macs and Unix, but the two together...?
So, I'm wiring my Macs up for Ethernet and would like to do all my
print accounting on our SparcStation running CAP.
A normal, "Mac" based print spooler will "capture" laser printer
hooked up to it, and will make them inaccessible to people to print to
except through the spooler.  This is sometimes called "bypass".
In order to make people pay for the prints they make, we need to keep
track of the printers' usage...

If I let CAP take control over my laser printers (which will be on Ethernet - 
either by themselves or through the use of an AsantePrint box), will
CAP "control" the printers and not allow mac people to see those
printers in their Choosers?

To "capture" a printer, the spooler would change the type of the laserwriter
from "Laserwriter" to "LaserShared", then calls itself the name of that
printer plus the word "(Spooler)".

Does CAP do this?  How can I charge people using my LaserWriters?

thanks for any info, I'll repost a summary if desired.

-- 

  Bill Burns       [ Internet: wdburns@mtu.edu ]
                   [ AppleLink: SHADOW         ]
  Apple Student Rep, MTU
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: ethertalk and localtalk at the same time
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:28:36 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

In <1993Jan13.010837.12653@cujo.curtin.edu.au> ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor) writes:

>Brett L Sivies (sivbl@win4.vut.EDU.AU) wrote:
>: Now the problem is this.  He now has an ethernet card in his mac
>: server, which he wants to have connected to the ethernet to receive
>: mail and take advantage of other equipment on the network.  BUT. he
>: cannot once he has changed the network software use the laser printers
>: in his office area, or use the mac server from his laptop because the
>: appletalk is routed through the ethernet card.
>: 
>: Is there ANY software that will allow both ethernet and local talk to
>: be send from the same mac??  I remember an apple sales person
>: mentioning something about using a macintosh as a gateway server from
>: local talk to ethertalk, but I cannot remember who said it or if it
>: could be done...

>Yes.. There are at least two solutions..

>If you're only accessing TCP/IP machines via the Ethernet, you can set MacTCP
>to use the ethernet interface independent of the Appletalk connection, and
>hence, talk appletalk out the LocAltalk port, and TCP/IP out the Ethernet card.

>If you need to access Appletalk services through both cards, you can get hold
>of Apple's Internet Router.  This allows you to have multiple active Appletalk
>connections from your mac (eg: Ethernet and two Localtalk (using both serial
>ports)).  The downside is that your machine would also become a router between
>the two networks which could slow your machine down a lot if others on the 
>Ethernet decide to print to localtalk printers via your machine :)

Or you can bridge EtherTalk and LocalTalk using products from Sonic
Systems with less overhead than Apple Internet Router. I've lost track of
how many times I've posted the following, so forgive me if it's the
umpteenth time, but until the question stops being asked... ;-)

I saw the following software-only solutions, for bridging Ethernet and    
LocalTalk, at the Mactivity conference in July. SuperBridge should do what
you want. In the following, "Show" refers to the Mactivity show price.    

              EtherBridge Series from Sonic Systems

Product       Description                                Retail   Show

LaserBridge   Allows up to 5 LocalTalk printers to be     $199    $100
              shared on Ethernet

PowerBridge   Allows any Mac to be connected to Ethernet   149      75

SuperBridge   Allows up to 5 Macs and/or LocalTalk         249     125
              printers to be connected to Ethernet

Sonic Systems
333 W. El Camino Real #280
Sunnyvale, CA 94087
Tel: 408-736-1900
Fax: 408-736-7228
From: evans-cic-is%micmac@REDSTONE-EMH2.ARMY.MIL (Evans-CIC-IS)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: RE: NCSA Telnet from PowerBook
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:58:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


>>[...]
>>Empress ... How do I get the functions key commands to work.  I can see that
>>the PowerBooks have no FuncKeys, so is there a key combination replacement?  

>>[...]

>I don't know about your other problem(s), but someone just recently posted an
>extension that emulates function keys on machines that don't have them, take
>a look in the extensions directories at any major anonymous ftp site.  I saw
it
>at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in /info-mac/ex/function-keys-11.hqx


Thanx for letting me know about this extension.  Just so you all know, it did
not work for me.  The Mac just kept beeping at me.  In the docs, the author
mentions he created this to work with SOFTPC.  It was worth the try to see if
it would work with NCSA Telnet. 
Thanx so much
Troy
--
Troy D. Evans    MacNetMgr    evans-cic-is@redstone-emh2.army.mil
Micom Macintosh/PC/UNIX Users Assistance Group  Redstone Arsenal AL
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: grue@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Guido Gruetzner)
Subject: CAP and lp
Summary: How to use CAP to print via lp-spooler
Keywords: CAP lp silicon graphics iris
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 10:24:58 GMT

I use CAP 6.0 to print to Laser Writers on Apple Talk from a Silicon Graphics
Iris Indigo using lwpr. This works fine.
But I would like to make printing more transparent to users and to enable print
spooling.

The PROBLEM :
	The Iris supports only lp, not lpr print spooling

The QUESTION :
	Is it possible to use papif, or something else, as a filter for
	lp instead of lpr ?


	Thanks for any help and suggestions
-- 
Guido Gruetzner,203-4109 <grue@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
From: markf@KNOT.QUEENSU.CA
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: LW IIg on EtherTalk
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:06:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>
>	I'm trying to change my LaserWriter IIg so it no longer thinks it's a
>LaserWriter and instead is a 'LazerWriter' in order to limit access to
>the printer. The postscript code I use only works when the printer is
>connected via LocalTalk. When it is connected via
>EtherTalk, it takes the code with no errors, but it has no effect.
>The same code works fine for our HP EtherTalk printer and for a LW IINTX.
>The IIg manual doesn't have any information on this behavior - has
>anyone else run into this and know of a work-around? 
>	I know there is a ROM upgrade one can get to fix various other bugs
>with the IIf and IIg, but as far as I know this isn't one of the bugs. I am
>pursuing this line with Apple....
>---------
>Edgar Nielsen
>Math Sciences Computing Center					(206) 543-6466
>University of Washington,Seattle 98195
With the new version of PostScript in LaserWriter IINTR, IIg, IIf, Personal
LaserWriter NT the code I used to change the Name Binding Type (NBP) in the
PRAM (or EEROM) of the laserwriter does not work.  I have been able to
change the type, until you power cycle the laserwriter.

It appears the NBP type is nolonger stored in EEROM, can anyone confirm
this or supply the correct postscript code to change the NBP type and store
it in EEROM.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Mark Fleming, Macintosh & Network Support, Office System
Computing & Communications Services, 
Queen's University at Kingston, 
Ontario, Canada, K7L 3N6

E-Mail: markf@POST.queensu.ca
Voice: (613) 545-2039, Fax: (613) 545-6798
From: tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: NCSA Telnet for PC Newsgroup?
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:17:36 GMT
Organization: Webster Computer Corp, Melbourne, Australia

In article <2845@wcc.oz.au>, tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans) writes:
> I'm having problems with NCSA Telnet for the PC, version 2.3.05. Could
> someone please advise me of an appropriate newsgroup

Thanks to all who advised comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc. I'v been
advised that NCSA Telnet(PC)'s bad behaviour is "known", and that
the solution is to use the Waterloo package instead. Sigh...

========================
Tom Evans  tom@wcc.oz.au
Webster Computer Corp P/L, 1270 Ferntree Gully Rd Scoresby, Melbourne 3179
Victoria, Australia 61-3-764-1100  FAX ...764-1179  A.C.N. 004 818 455

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Jamey Maze <jnm@ornl.gov>
Subject: LaserWriter IIg problem
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A76F0998D5018039@baloo.ctd.ornl.gov>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 09: 47:04 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:47:16 GMT

A friend here is trying to install a LaserWriter IIg and is having some
trouble. When connected to the corporate Ethernet, we do not see the
printer. When put on a stand-alone LAN, we can see the printer. After
unpacking the printer, this person did send a PostScript job to the
printer (via LocalTalk) to set the zone. This was before the printer was
connected to the Ethernet. 

My question is does someone have a PostScript job that would either:

1) Reset the printer to its factory defaults, or

2) Print the current settings (e.g., zone, appletalk address, ethernet
address, active interfaces, etc.)

Thanks!

Jamey Maze
Oak Ridge National Lab
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: maas@STANFORD.EDU (Andy Maas)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: [Re: CAP vs netatalk ] & authenticated printing ?
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:48:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Is there anyone trying to make AUFS to do kerberos UAM like netatalk AFPD? or
port afpd of netatalk to CAP ?

While Netatalk has a good idea to provide kernel level AppleTalk, at the moment
is doesn't have as many platform support as CAP. Kernel patching in general
raise the issue of maintainability for future hardware/OS.

Other related question (sorry if this has been asked before). Does anyone know
of any effort to make printing be kerberised (i.e is it at all possible to make
the Mac Print Manager use some kind of authentication ?)

Thanks for any information.

Andy Maas
From: srp@cgl.ucsf.edu (Scott R. Presnell)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: ARNS/IPRemote Questions
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:23:08 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

Hi folks,
	I recently discovered ARNS - I have some questions about operation.

My situation is as follows.

	1) Mac IIci at home running System 7.0 + tuneup.
	2) Mac SL/IP 1.0 from HydenPark.

I installed Network cp 3.0 and Appletalk 58.0 from the Network Installer
available on ftp.apple.com. (as the documentation suggested getting a
recent version.)  I installed IPRemote as described.

I can successfully connect to a host running the arns daemon.  On that same
wire is a FastPath. (I read about the drawback to MacSLIP 1.0 - and
dismissing the dialog with the shift key, etc).

It all works - I see all the campus zones and can do AppleShare mounts, set
and use the printer, etc. etc.

My primary problem is that the Mac crashes a bit often.  It seems to crash
in different applications (as determined by MacsBug) at different times.
Needless to say it "never" crashes when I'm not running IPRemote.

I've tried pulling out the vast majority of my INIT's but so far it seems
to still crash. It most likely to crash when a TCP/IP app is open as well.
The last thing I did last night was make sure that SHeap is loaded as the
first, that seemed to result in the longest up-time so far (it didn't crash
before I got tired).

For as long as I tested it Async AppleTalk worked fine,  but I'd rather use
IPRemote if I can use it at the same time I can keep my IP connections.

My questions are:

	1) Has anybody else tried running IPRemote over SL/IP and had it
work consistently?  I'd be interested in hearing "works for me" if that is
the case.

	2) What, exactly does SHeap do and why would it be required.  If I
need to use this, does it indicate something about my configuration that I
should change?

	Thanks for any help.  And thanks to djh for his time and effort on
these tools.

-- 

	- Scott Presnell (srp@cgl.ucsf.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Craig Morgenstern)
Subject: papif/lpd prob running cap60.126 w/ SUN NIT (HELP!)
Keywords: papif, lpr, lpd
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:56:25 GMT

We've just switched from IPtalk via a kbox to native ethertalk (phase 2) on
a SUN3 (4.0.3) and a SPARCstation-2 (4.1.1), and now laserwriter access is 
broken on both machines.  In lpd-errs, we get the following message

	Jan 11 09:14:39 red lpd[3238]: restarting lw132
	Jan 11 09:15:29 red last message repeated 59 times


Here's the printcap entry, cap.printers entry, and the shell script to
invoke papif (these worked when we were using IPtalk):

	(printcap)
	lw132:\
         	:lp=/dev/lw132:\
         	:sd=/var/spool/lw132:\
         	:sf:\
         	:lf=/var/adm/lw-log:\
         	:if=/usr/local/lib/cap/lw132:\
         	:of=/usr/local/lib/cap/papof:

	(cap.printers)
	lw132=132 PLW:LaserWriter@CoSc Labs

	(lw132 shell script)
	#!/bin/sh
	BANNERLAST=0
	BANNERFIRST=0
	DOACCT=0
	export BANNERLAST BANNERFIRST DOACCT
	/usr/local/lib/cap/papif -P lw132 $*

Aufs, atlook, etc all work fine, and we can print a postscript file to lw132
using lwpr.  Under ethertalk, the machines are in a different zone than
they were when running IPtalk.  etcdest and all other dests were all set to
/usr/local/lib/cap.

I've RTFM all weekend, and I'm completely stymied.  I haven't been following
threads about printer probs, so I don't know if this is a common prob or not.
Could someone in the know please enlighten me?  Any suggestions would be
very much appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

Craig Morgenstern
morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: CAP and Solaris 2
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:55:38 GMT

sundvall@perrier.embnet.se (Mats Sundvall) writes:


>Yea,

>me to. I can't even figure out if something similar to /dev/nit is present.


Oh yes, bit hidden pretty well. There's /dev/le, /dev/ie and
there's le(7), ie(7) and dlpi(7). 

They give you full access to the ethernet.

Casper
From: billm@phantom.gatech.edu (Bill McLure)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: recent CAP STAT_CACHE patches
Date: 4 Jan 1993 11:21:20 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: oit.gatech.edu

  Someone recently posted about a couple of mods they had made that
drastically improved volume performance by improving the caching
routines.  Unfortunately, all I received was the text of the article
(by mail).  If the author (or someone who knows who that was) could
send me mail with the details (or his/her address), it would be 
greatly appreciated.
Bill
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: cafapm@gaia.ecs.csus.edu (Cafapm Project)
Subject: NCSA Telnet and CAP and async problem
Keywords: help
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Distribution: comp.protocols.appletalk
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 22:05:50 GMT

Greetings!

   we have CAP 6.0 PL125 running on a Sun MP690 (sunos 4.1.2) with a single
serial (async) connection to a Mac IIsi (7.01) and are able to access printers
and disks on the Sun (yeah!).

   The problem is that we would also like to use telnet on the mac.  We have
tried NCSA Telnet versions 2.3, 2.3+slip, 2.4, 2.5, and 2.5B with no success.

   Is this possible?  if so, can anyone send me an example config.tel file?
or is it a problem on the Sun?


thanks in advance!



steve

kishaba@empm3.cdpr.ca.gov
cafapm@athena.ecs.csus.edu
From: bkort@k12-nis.bbn.com (Barry Kort)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Mac Plus/MacTCP 1.1.1
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:06:27 GMT
Organization: /home/bkort/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: k12-nis.bbn.com
In-reply-to: johnmacd@ac.dal.ca's message of 4 Jan 93 12:17:19 -0400

In article <1993Jan4.121719.9853@ac.dal.ca> johnmacd@ac.dal.ca writes:

   I'm trying to run Mac System 7.1 on some Mac Pluses. Does anyone know if 
   the MacTCP 1.1.1 includes the Mac Plus Tool fix or if the 1.1 patcher will 
   work.

According to advice posted here a week or so ago, MacTCP 1.1.1 already
has the fix for the MacPlus, and should not be tinkered with by the
Mac Plus Tool fix.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Magnus.Hjern@malmo.trab.se (Magnus Hjern)
Subject: CAP aufs desktop problem
Organization: Telia Research AB
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:27:32 GMT

We are using CAP patch 126 running on a DS5120 with Ultrix 4.3. The
aufs fileserver for Macintosh workstations has been running for about
8 months now, without any major problems. The only thing we've noticed
so far is that the desktop files are not handled correctly by CAP.

If the user would like another layout on his/hers CAP-folders than the
standard ones, the changes are not stored by aufs. Even if the
ADeskTop and .IDeskTop files are deleted and rebuilt it does not have
any effect on the layour. 

Does anyone have the solution to this problem?

-Cheers
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels)
Subject: Re: CAP and Solaris 2
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:41:22 GMT

djh@cs.mu.OZ.AU (David Hornsby) writes:
>jean@biomac.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean Thioulouse) writes:
>>I have seen nothing about the compatibility between CAP 6.0
>>and Solaris 2. Is it because there is no problem or because nobody
>>has tried it yet ? I am particularly interested in phase 2 / enet driver
>>compatibility.

>This is the current status with regard to CAP 6.0 and Solaris 2 ...

>IPTalk:
>	"Patches allowing CAP to run in IPTalk mode under Solaris are
>	coming soon". Most of these should be minor but since I haven't
>	seen them yet this is just a guess.
As I'm porting the stuff now, most of the patches are minor. The (SUN) C
compiler is a lot more picky about types, so mostly porting means adding casts
here and there. Also the Configuration script needs work. Only one problem
left, and I'm busy with it. I'll send the patches to cap@munnari soon
(hope this week, otherwise next week).

>Native EtherTalk: (Phase 1 or 2)
>	As I understand it, NIT is not being supported by Solaris 2.
>	Without NIT (or Stanford ENET or the Berkeley Packet Filter),
>	providing Native EtherTalk support is probably impossible.
That must be investigated (I haven't looked into that yet). IPTalk support
first!


--maarten
-- 
In real life:	Maarten Carels
		Computer Science Department
		University of Amsterdam
email:		maarten@fwi.uva.nl
From: molinari@HORUS.U-STRASBG.FR (Serge Molinari)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:37:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

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