HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Fougeres)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.italian,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Hats off to Maggie (not "Meggy")
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:15:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oeXkic200iUxI2nv12
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I, too, was surprised and touched when "the Iron Lady" whom I used to
detest came out as the only European statesman/stateswoman of stature to
declare her desire and preparedness to stop the Serbian atrocities by
force of arms since the Serbs (including their new "American" statesman
-- another Serbian trick of world deceit) scoff at anything less.   That
Maggie's "chosen" successor, John Majors or whatever, showed himself a
staunch supporter of the phony "hands off" policy shocked and outraged
me.  The European/American blockade of Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina is
a monstrous hypocrisy since the Serbs are ALREADY armed to the teeth and
apparently keep receiving all the supplies they want.  The world had
exactly the same hypocritical and crazy "hands off" attitude during the
Spanish Civil War -- when Hitler and Mussolini sent arms and men to
fight on Franco's behalf but France and England and the US and others
kept saying  "Oh! no! people should not intervene, it would make matters
only worse!"      I am surprised and disgusted that no IMPORTANT PERSON
-- neither Mitterand nor Kohl nor Bush nor anyone else (at least, to my
knowledge) -- drew this disturbing parallel (with the Spanish Civil
War.)  
Probably all Western Powers think like Bush:  "who gives a sh*t ?  there
is no oil in former Yugoslavia."        
  
                                          mf
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Meggy and Yugoslavia
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:22:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <BsurMI.8sy@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
> This is a good point (although I don't think I'd have put the smiley > Hercegovina.  No one could touch them.  That is not exactly what one


The smiley was for another reason and you're right. It didn't belong
there.

No, this is not what the New World Order is about. This is still
just like the old order. If nothing's changed and we've learned
nothing from the past, why bother ?  

Last week's USN&WR wrote that Russia is supplying Serbia and that
Yeltsin might not be aware of it. 
-- 

	mark	


   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
 ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu
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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.sov
Subject: 'Pol*' Is Thinking: Looks Bleak, Doesn't It?
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


LLT>inappropriate groups? Try following that rule yourself.

MP> You missed the point of my message. I HAVE REPEATEDLY TRIED to post
MP>to S.c.Greek and s.c.Turkish ONLY. Others have too. Mr Mutlu's
MP>response was to post vile insults to numerous groups, complete with

 By the way, if anyone has any doubts about the verity of this last
statement of mine, just check this week's feed of USENET.
Compare these two headers, esp the NEWSGROUPS: line. My message was an
answer to a thread that involved only S.C.GREEK, and did not even
have anything to do with Mr Mutlu.

MY MESSAGE:
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos)
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos)

MUTLU'S REPLY (The subject has changed, but he is quoting from my
message above).
Path:uupsi!psinntp!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state
.edu!lnac!att!ucbvax!anadolu.michigan.com!han
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
iet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:38:35 GMT


Now, if this is not a violation of cross-posting guidelines, I don't
know what is!
                                                                                                              
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: 'Pol*' Is Thinking: Looks Bleak, Doesn't It?
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:38:35 GMT





<2461.3248.uupcb@factory.com>
michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 

>  Metin Topcan! Enis Cetin! Oh, the memories.....
>  Where have all they gone?

They are everywhere, 'dudley.'


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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From: suopanki@zombie.oulu.fi (Heikki Suopanki)
Subject: Re: MEN ARE LIKE THAT
Reply-To: suopanki@phoenix.oulu.fi
Organization: Unixverstas Olutensin, Finlandia
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:31:04 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Aug 92 03:06:00 GMT, michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos)  said:

Michael>  There are other audiences: Innocent by-standers, readers of the many
Michael> boards that Mr. Mutlu insists on cross-posting to. Arab readers, Jewish
Michael> readers and many european readers who are not very well familiar with
Michael> the history of the Balkans and the Caucasus regions, are often
Michael> exposed to this hit-and-run postings by Mr Mutlu. By posting to
Michael> groups other than s.c.Greek and s.c.Turkish, Mr Mutlu tries to generate
Michael> at least some impressions to the readers of these boards. People who may
Michael> or may not have heard about the massacre of Armenians, have now heard of
Michael> the "massacre of 2.5 million Turks". They have not seen it proven, but
Michael> they have heard of it, and (probably unable to conceive that anyone
Michael> would post such unfounded lies) they may walk away thinking that there
Michael> was indeed such an event.

I don't think Mutlu's postings have very much effect on those innocent
by-standers. If they are not interested what happened somewhere in
Caucasus many many years ago they forget quickly what Mutlu has said. 
"Somebody killed somebody, but who cares"....And if they are
interested they will soon find out what kind of propaganda and lies
Mutlu is telling us.
There are however people like me who are affected differently. Earlier
my impression of Turks and Turkey was quite positive... a more or less
democratic and free country, not very fundamental muslims and so.
After I have seen Mutlu's articles (I don't read the anymore) my
impression has changed. I know not all Turks are like Mutlu, but
my impression of them is now negative. And when I have seen other
Turks defending Mutlu it's getting even more negative. Sad but true.
And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that way. That probably
isn't Mutlu's goal. 
(well, maybe he is a Turk hater in disguise and it is indeed his goal :) 

-Heikki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.history
From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: What kind of people are Turks?
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:53:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.163811.19331@hasler.ascom.ch>, 
kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh) write in soc.culture.europe:

[much wooping, flooping and pooping nuked] 

|>Why for once will a Turk not address what is under discussion, is it
|>that impossible?, rather than just insult the person he doesn't like
|>the views/opinions of.

Have You killfiled Mark Hubey by any chance? All of the points I have seen 
from him were pertinent and reasonable, even if You don't agree with them.
Mark is, most of the time, a perfect gentleman.

|>Does HBM (and the author of the article i'm responding too) really represent
|>the honest,typical, middle of the road Turk's view/attitude. I don't think so
|>but we have very little evidence to the contrary. 

I have the feeling that those people whom You are alluding to have long since
fled the pestholes that soc.culture.turkish and for most of the time 
soc.culture.europe have turned into. Actually, I remember reading responses
by Turkish posters to M*u's drivel that were derisive and ridiculing. But
those small signals, I suppose, were lost in the vast noise.  

|>kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch

Don't generalise from a small but noisesome sample, Kevin. KILL the 
noisemakers and experience the warm glow when DXRN responds with:
--------
killed 46 articles in soc.culture.europe

Ahh, bliss!

       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
bldg.1b-235, Notkestr.85  Hepnet:   VXDESY::POSER (13313::Poser)
   D-2000 Hamburg 52      Tel.: -49-40-8998-2004
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Meggy and Yugoslavia
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:34:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug12.153417.9889@tfs.com> petrov@tfs.com (George Petrov) writes:

> In article <Aug.11.04.57.27.1992.6867@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:

> 	There are damn good reasons for the US ground forces
> 	to stay out of the Balkan mess.  Even though Yugoslav
> 	terrain is not a jungle, it is, nonetheless, quite rugged.
> 	And, a parallal with Vietnam is that you never know who will
> 	be shooting at you, from what direction.  To Americans (and
> 	to most W. Europeans) there is no visible difference between
> 	a Serb, Croat, Bosnian, Macedonian or Albanian.  There
> 	could easily be mistakes, resulting in massacres.


First off, I did not advocate invading and occupying Serbia. Peace
will probably come sooner if either all the heavy weapons on both
sides are exhausted or both sides are equally powerful and start
to do heavy damage to one another. Otherwise, it will be like
in the past "unconditional surrender"..

Second, lots of places are quite hostile. The Middle East deserts
were pretty hostile to humans too. The point is not that but from
what I remember reading Serbs account for about 50% of Yugoslavia
and that should be roughly equivalent to Slovenia, Croatia and
Bosnia. A rough stalemate (enough to conclude peace) can be
achieved.



> 	You may have heard about how much trouble it was for the
> 	Germans to control the place a few years ago.  They, too,
> 	had plenty of air power, and they were not nearly as
> 	fastidious about whom they shot, as US forces would try
> 	to be.  I contend that any military intervention using fewer 
> 	than 500,000 troops will be futile, anyway -- just a
> 	cosmetic show for the election year.


Yes, I've read. I might add that a US Colonel said that the Germans
didn't have Apache helicopters. Comparing today's massive
firepower to WW1 or WW2 is pointless. And once again, I did
not advocate an occupation of Serbia.

It would be pretty easy to get rid of the guerrillas in the hills.

Cluster bombs, napalm, fuel-air explosives, daisy-cutters,
bouncing bettys....any one of them or in combinations would
make it pretty clear that the areas in which they fall
are not meant for humans to stay there...if they do they'll
stay at the risk of either being fired to a crips or being
blown to so many pieces even God will have problems putting
them back together again. One could only hope that they get
the message and vacate before it becomes necessary.

And let's not forget Iraq. Senator D'Amoto quite plainly
pointed out all the wonderful places around Belgrade
that could be bombed back to the stone age a la Baghdad
and the rest of Iraq. If UN resolutions are not obeyed
there's no reason why a line can't be drawn in the
mountains :-).. And it would take much less than in Iraq.
After all there's a whole willing population that can
take care of the ground war.
-- 

	mark	


   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
 ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu
From: mikie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Michael C. Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Midnight Express Revisited
Date: 17 Aug 1992 23:53:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

   I am sure everyone who saw the great Epic Movie: Midnight
   Express can't help but wonder how a nation like Turkey
   can enter the familly of nations.

   siki siktir

   A Human
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.australian
Subject: 'Pol*' Still Hasn't Corrected Himself: The Turkish Genocide.
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:04:19 GMT





<911.3233.uupcb@factory.com>
michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 

>Those interested in the topic(s) please follow the thread there.

Have your eyes checked once in a while and don't feel you have
to read everything that comes your way. Well, you still haven't
corrected yourself. Ottoman Armenians have decided to betray their 
own government in 1914 and stab in the back by collaborating with 
the invading Russian armies, hoping to establish a separate Armenian 
state in Eastern Anatolia. The Armenian leaders played a gamble that 
cost 2.5 million Turkish and Kurdish lives.

The truth needs to be told over and over again. There are Armenians
who of course do know the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslims
between 1914-1920 but their voices of truth are suppressed today
in the hollow din of the well-orchestrated anti-Turkish campaign
by the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle. 

Source: "From Sardarapat to Sevres and Lausanne" by Avetis Aharonian. The 
Armenian Review, Vol. 16, No. 3-63, Autumn, Sep. 1963, pp. 47-57.

p. 52 (second paragraph).

"Your three chiefs, Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian are the ringleaders
 of the bands which have destroyed Tartar villages and have staged 
 massacres in Zangezour, Surmali, Etchmiadzin, and Zangibasar. This is
 intolerable. Look - and here he pointed to a file of official documents
 on the table - look at this, here in December are the reports of the last
 few months concerning ruined Tartar villages which my representative
 Wardrop has sent me. The official Tartar communique speaks of the
 destruction of 300 villages."

p. 54 (fifth paragraph).

"Yes, of course. I repeat, until this massacre of the Tartars is stopped
 and the three chiefs are not removed from your military leadership I
 hardly think we can supply you arms and ammunition."

"...it is the armed bands led by Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian who
 during the past months have raided and destroyed many Tartar villages in
 the regions of Surmali, Etchmiadzin, Zangezour, and Zangibasar. There are
 official charges of massacres."

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: Forger Viznyuk strikes in "talk.politics.soviet"
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:32:02 GMT





<1992Aug13.224435.29951@cs.mun.ca>
brian@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Brian Paquet)

>Sorry I guess it's zoro not zorro..
>the mutlu gif site

And keep your paws off the podium.



Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: TSYD Kupasi Maclari Hakkinda Ayrintili Bilgi ?
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:39:18 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp) writes:

>Her neyse son bir not olarak, orta alanin yetersizligini goren
>FB, spor yazarlari maclarindan sonra tekrar Gerson ile anlasti.
>Gerson'un FB icin onemi boylece anlasilmis oldu. Su siralar ise
>antrenor degisikligi gundemde.

Dun radyoda duyduguma gore, Mustafa Denizli ile anlasamayan
FB, tekrar Veselinovic'i getiriyormus...

FB kimliginin bir parcasi da her zaman bol transfer parasi
harcayan bir takim olmasidir. Besiktas'in altyapiya nispeten
daha fazla onem vermesi de nasil Besiktas kimliginin bir 
parcasiysa...

'Besiktas'in yaptigini yapsinlar' elestirisi ne kadar hakli da
olsa havada kaliyor, cunku bu iste dogru/yanlis yok. FB'nin basarisiz
oldugu da soylenemez, ister son 10 yila, isterse butun lig
tarihine bakilsin...

>Murat

Serdar

-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
Serdar Boztas \\ serdar@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au \\ +(61)3-565-5722
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: a Nick Gavurliatos !
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:31:42 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Allah'in adini alma pis agzina lan!
Harvard'a aNick olarak gir it olarak cik!
aNick oglu aNick!

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From: marcmil@microsoft.com (Marc Milanini)
Subject: How about some math, Mr Mutlu ?
Date: 11 Aug 92 02:23:34 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <9208071733.A7438td@anadolu.michigan.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:
><1992Aug7.185546.8567@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
>arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
>
>>The odds of _some_ two people having the same birthday in a group of fifty are
>>quite large.
>
>As usual, it is a blatant lie.

Hey Mr Mutlu, apparently they do not teach Probabilities in Turkey. The odds
of two people having their birthday on the same day in a group of 50 are more
than 95%...

You still have it ? Your face, that is...

Don't worry, I won't hold this against you in our discussion about the
superiority of the Turkish teaching. I guess that you were not one of
those 'Turkish kids' at the 'European math competition', he he he...

-- 
=---K8>>@@@@@@@@ Marc Milanini @@@@ marcmil@microsoft.com @@@@%%
From: ceg@dec-2.CE.Berkeley.EDU (Carl E. Grigorian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Azeri news
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:37:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: dec-2.ce.berkeley.edu

In article <9208170915.AA23274@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BITNET@forsythe.Stanford.EDU> writes:
>AZERI FOREIGN MINISTRY DENIES THE ACCUSATIONS OF ARMENIA
>
>[...]  Regarding the current Azeri military operations
>in the region of Kedabek, the Foreign Ministry of Azerbaijan
>stresses that the village of Bashkend /Artzvashen/, which lies in
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Azerbaijan, has been turned to Armenian military base and
^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Azerbaijan has to take appropriate measures to defend its citizens.
>

Turan should be a bit more explicit here. Artzvashen lies inside
Azerbaijani territory but belongs to the Republic of Armenia. This
is another wonderful example of Stalinist map drawing. By invading
Artzvashen, Azerbaijan has officially and openly seized territory
from the Republic of Armenia. One more island of Armenian population
within Azerbaijan has just been "cleansed" of Armenians.

>ARMENIAN ATTACKS ON THE AZERI REGIONS OF KAZAKH AND AKSTAFA
>
>[...] The village of Bashkend also came under Armenian shelling.  There
                      ^^^^^^^^
>are reports on killed and injured.  The villages suffered much
>destructions.

I see. Armenians are shelling a village on Armenian territory just
depopulated of Armenians a few days ago based on claims that it was
an Armenian military base and Turan is complaining about casualties!

CEG
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: 'Eijkhout's Dear Boy.
Date: 11 Aug 92 16:50:14 GMT






<l8ie78INNnvk@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>
eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)

>I don't know why I even bother, but here goes.

You moved, so I'll never know.

|> >My dear boy, I don't want to. Unfortunately Mutlu posts in a lot of
|> >unrelated newsgroups, in disregard of all recognized standards of posting.
|> 
|> As usual, it is a blatant lie. It is on the record that the British said 
|> to local Armenians, 

>Let's forget the 'usual' for a moment, but what does 'it' refer to?
>I made two assertions, two neither of which this has any relevance.

You are a failure, 'Eijkhout.' 

  'Unfortunately Mutlu posts in a lot of unrelated newsgroups, in disregard 
   of all recognized standards of posting.'

And it is a blatant lie.

>Pathetic, mr. Mutlu. You're losing it.

What effect would that have had on the Armenian genocide of the Turkish
people?

>By the way, thanks for proving my point yet again: I edited the newsgroups
>line to remove the extra groups that you added to my original post.

Don't know what good it does. Now, what do you think? 

   In a speech addressed to the Armenian Congress in Petersburg on May 24,
   Tchalkouchian emphasized the commitment of the Armenians to the Allied
   cause:

"...The French charmingly call us 'our little allies'. It may be that we
 have made a small contribution to the World War. There is no doubt that 
 our status is that of a 'great ally'. The whole of the Armenian nation
 was involved in the war... right from the start, our sympathy was completely
 for the Allied Powers. Among these, Russia, to whom Armenians had been 
 loyal throughout history, came first and foremost."

"The Armenians greeted the Russians with ringing bells and with their 
 priests dressed in their ceremonial robes. In this war, too, the Armenian
 people took their place beside the Russians...The war broke out volunteers
 came from everywhere, from Armenia in Eastern Anatolia, from Egypt under
 Turkish rule, from the non-Russian areas of Rumania; all these people who
 were Ottoman subjects, familiar with Anatolia, gathered together and put
 themselves at the service of the Russian Empire." 

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)