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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny X-Men #298
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:59:15 GMT
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rramirez@husc10.harvard.edu (Robert Ramirez) writes:

>I know it's a late reaction, but I just got back from Christmas break a
>little over a week ago...

>Wasn't anyone even slightly annoyed that Forge (if that WAS indeed he)
>wasn't even _identified_ in the current issue?

>And since when was Forge ever a COP?  Can any Forge experts tell me if
>anything about him (besides being in 'Nam) that happened before he joined
>the X-Men?  Better yet, if someone's written a complete bio on him, could
>he (or she) please E-mail me a copy?  Thanx!

Sorry, but that wasn't Forge.  It was Tom Corsi, who was a cop guarding 
Dani Moonstar's hospital room way back in the New Mutants during the _demon 
bear_ storyline (about 10?  I haven't got them anymore, my younger brother 
whined me out of them...)

Tom was turned into a Native American mystically by said bear, and has worked 
for Prof. Xavier in various capacities.  As has Sharon Friedlander, the nurse
who was punched by an acolyte.

Hope this helps.

David
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From: c60c-2mk@web-2e.berkeley.edu ()
Subject: Re: Psylocke is BABE #1
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:04:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.022550.9331@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> rjoffe@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Ron Joffe) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.011700.16097@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, c60c-2mk@web-1h.berkeley.edu () writes:
>> In article <1jpssiINNdfs@male.EBay.Sun.COM> laker@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney) writes:
>> 
>> 	It is in my opinion that most of the Marvel U.K.'s comics suck, I
>> mean REALLY suck, and the last two issues of Hell's Angel has been the worst
>> I've seen.  My five year old nephew can draw better than that.
>> 
>> 							J.T.
>I am wondering if J.T> has seen some other of Marvel U.K.'s works, or is just
>basing his comments on a few titles. For example, I have found the artwork in
>Digitek to be quite excelent. 
>
>
>Ron


	I have read most of the U.K. titles that came out during the last
few years, ie, Digitek, Warheads, Knights of Pendragon, Hell's/Dark Angel,
Motormouth-Killpower, DH2, GenetiX, (any title I left out?) and have found
that MOST of the work sucks (as I stated in the original post), even though
I've been impressed with the artworks of Digitek, and DH2.  And stop with
the big name guest star already, if a comic is good, it could stand on
its own, and not depending on the X-Men showing up every other issue.

	Just my $0.02.

							J.T.
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cyclops wearing contact lenses
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:05:33 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1jnggeINN85h@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jay Michael) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.052139.25919@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-2mk@web-1e.berkeley.edu () writes:
>>In article <93019.165438GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>No, Cyclops is immune to his blasts (and so is his bro Havok).  He would not
>>>"knock himself for a loop" since all his blasts do is provide force anyway.
>--trim--
>>>
>>>                                                   --Eric
>
>>If I remember correctly, I rarely do nowadays, wayback in the X-Tinction
>>Agenda plotlines, Scott and Alex had an all out fight when Havok was
>>brainwashed(?) into being a Genosha magistrate.  I seem to remember Alex
>>thinking (after he blasted his brother) something along the lines (it's
>>so hard when you don't have the book next to you) of "that blast destroyed
>>all his cloth, and should have destroyed him utterly, etc. etc..."
>>
>>I don't remember if Cyke was ever knocked off his feet, but that line
>>seem to suggest that there's more to the Summers brothers' power than just
>>knocking others around.
>
>Having just read the trade edition, I'm fairly clear on this . . . apparently
>Havok decided to scrag the leader as his best strategic option, wherin Cyclops
>got completely nailed by surprise.  Cyclops thinks to himself, gee, my clothes
>are toast, but I'm fine! (paraphrased;)  At which point he goes about blasting
>Havok.  (Cyclops lost his clothing quite a few times this way, if I remember.)
>He _did_ get knocked over, but this may have been due to the ground 
>disintigrating under his feet.  As to degree, I'm not sure if they're 
>completely immune, or if they can feel but not get hurt by eachother's powers.
>Relative's immunity always seemed kinda hokey to me, but it makes for 
>interesting reading.  Havok's plasma bursts do lots more than just knocking
>people around . . . good think cyclop's visor didn't get disintigrated . . .
>

    from what I understand Havok has a Plamsa Blast, thereby impling that heat
  is involved, the brother immunies could be that they may not be hurt by the
  process but can be knocked back.  or maybe Havok hit the ground in front of
  Cyclops, and the explosing ground knocked Cyclops back, just a theory.

	FYI
	  Other Sibilings with Immunites
		Banshee and Black Tom
		Aurora and Northstar  (The Blinding Flashes)
		Other?

	  Siblings not Immune
		Karma and brother Tran whom she Absorbed into herself.


							Jorge
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From: mason
Subject: Second generation mutants (Excal 63)
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:16:17 GMT

Mutant children are occasionally born to human parents -- I have no
idea what the odds are, but for the sake of argument, we'll call it
one in 10,000.  The gene for mutation is probably dominant since mutant
siblings are common.  When both parents are mutant (or super-powered),
the child is virtually always a mutant.  When *one* parent is mutant
and the other human, the odds still appear to be fairly high.
 
Now a child of mutant parents often inherits the mutant ability of
one or both.  A child of super-powered parents will probably develop
a new ability, rather than inherit his parents' powers (e.g. Franklin
Richards).  It has been demonstrated that the offspring of mutant
parents MAY develop a unique mutant ability IN ADDITION to inheriting
the powers of his parents, but this MUST be a rare occurrence.
 
Consider: if a mutant inherits the abilities of his parents, in addition
to developing one of his own, then a third-generation mutant (the child
of two second-gens) would have seven powers.  A fourth-gen would have
fifteen.  This begins to get absurd very quickly.
 
Theory:  The possibility that a child of mutant parents will develop
a NEW mutation is the same as that of a child born to human parents.
Say 1 in 10,000.  The odds of his inheriting an ability from one
parent is good.  The odds of his inheriting the powers of both parents
(ore more than one power from a single parent) must be substantially
lower, or Earth in 2099 would be a pretty frightening place.
 
-- mason
From: rglass@PCS.CNU.EDU (Randall Glass)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: what's up with 'beast'?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 09:59:31 -0600
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 What's up with the Beast?  In a recent X-men (or was it Uncanny, I
can't tell with all the recent "post-xcutioners" happenings) Hank
was about to have a heart to heart discussion with the Prof until
that glorious leader Cannonball bursted in.  I've been reading those
Comic Shop News flyers as well as the Previews interviews featuring
F.Niceiza (spelling?!).  He said that he had some major plans for
the blue furball.  Also interesting is what Fabian wrote in the Beast's
entry for "Stryfe's Strikefile".  "McCoy hasn't reached his full
potential" (or something like that).  
 During X-song Hank started questioning his duty: to run around as the
superhero or spend time behind the scenes (like when he was helping
Xavier). (I've only read X-song once, so this analysis might be of
a dream I had. haha).
 Any other Beast fans around here?
-- 
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Bring back Wolverine's new costume!
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:57:30 GMT

The switch to his yellow and black one is because of the events in
WOLVERINE #48-#50 (1st appearance of the "new" costume was #50).
Basically, since he feels like he is becoming more like the person he was
when he joined the X-Men, he's going back to those old colors. (However,
he wore his brown and orange costume when trying to defend the Yashida
home circa WOLVERINE #57. So they're not gome for good.)

Jay (=

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From: djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J)
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Subject: psylocke
Date: 27 Jan 1993 03:15 CST
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okay . . . . quick question (sorry if this has been stated already)
but what ever happen to mojo being able to see throught betsy's
eyes.
i personally like her new incarnation as much as the old. 
(the purple flow gowns were a bit much back then though)
it kinda goes back to x-men annual 11 where she always wanted to be
the perfect weapon or something. well she now has her wish.
(or something close to it)

i must say (if i haven't said so before)
i did too much care for the x-factor book when it was the ancient x-men
in the book everyone's powers got boosted too the utmost degree
and i hated the way they came up with the goblin queen sh*t to make
cyclops not look like a first class *ss for leaving his wife and kid
at the drop of a GREY.
it was like a book of power boosting and excuses
what ever happen too drake's accounting job? or opal?

		seth I 
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From: nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Stinky Wizzleteats)
Subject: Re: Madrox (was Re: Bishop)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:33:23 GMT

geurink@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Josh Geurink) writes:
>Besides, lately Madrox's been demonstrating incredible control not
>only over the dupes, but how they come out.  Remember the Ren & Stimpy
>t-shirt?

Yeah....didn't Madrox's dupes used to come out as a mirror image of him?
Like for instance if he stamped his foot the dupe would come out standing
in the same position as Madrox, but as a mirror? (Hard to explain, but I
think you get the point.) These days Jamie can create the dupes any which
way he pleases. (see the X-Factor psych-evaluation issue....the dupe
appears on the arm of the chair, complete with menacing facial expression.

>Now, what if Jamie eventually realizes he can custom-make dupes... some
>stronger, some faster... he'd literally be a one man team without the
>emotional capacity to handle it.

I think he could handle it...for a while it'd be his wildest dream...he
definitely wouldn't be alone ever again, and he'd have someone other than
himself around....but just wait until one of them dies. Jamie would lose
it completely.


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From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: Re: Madrox and diseases (was Re: X-Factor #88)
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:21:08 GMT

In article <74320@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>Actually, I just got into this identical discussion over on GEnie.
>
>My feeling is that, yes, if a dupe of Jamie picked up, say, Herpes, then
>one he re-merged the core individual would have it.
>
>PAD

O.K. PAD, what about this?  Jamie has some virus.  Does each
dupe he generates have is as well, or could it be that a dupe is
generated that fully has the virus but Jamie does not (until
he and the dupe merge back).  This situation could be very
interesting and create quite a moral problem for Jamie, especially
if it was the HIV virus.

-- 
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From: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Lousy Marvel UK titles (was Re: Psylocke is BABE #1)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:05:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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Plus the fact that they ruined one of the few interesting titles
from Marvel to make justanothersliceemdiceem.  (i.e. Pendragon II)

-- 
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: BOO-TAY!?!?! (Was Re: X-Men Intrigue)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:16:38 GMT

Ugh... spare me.

Same goes for the rest of your observations. Scott Lobdell would have to
be out of his mind (or have it sucked out by Bob Harras) to throw such a
long, involved relationship out the window just to Scott can "get it on"
with Psylocke. (Like they'd even show it...) While it is diverting, and in
some ways fun, to see Psylocke flirting with Scott (trying to break "Mr.
Repression" out of his shell, are we?) I can't think of many people who'd
stand for such a thing.

(While you're at it, let's have Invisible Woman have a fling with Captain
America... I mean, with _that_ costume, you'd almost swear she's trolling...)

Jay (=

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Rachel Summers, Phoenix, and the Multiverse
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:26:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Nice theories/problems to Phoenix' uniqueness in the Marvel Multiverse.  I
have comments to each:

1>  What If problems:  This is a mediocre book in sales and talent, so it is
easily ignored, I agree.

2>  The Guardians timeline problem:  The Phoenix could exist here, there is
no saying that it couldn't move from one timeline to another sometime in our
future timeline (our meaning Excalibur's current one).  We've seen Phoenix
move between timelines in the Cross Time Caper.


Also, on a side note.. what do the people at Marvel have against Pittsburg?
They nuke it in Mastermind's futurepast, and they disintegrated it in the
final stages of "The New Universe"

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: Jami Johnson=Asshole: Letter in UX#298
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:54:08 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>> >Truth, Justice and the American Way is for everyone.
>>  
>> "Why is it that they have to distinguish between Truth, Justice, and THEN the
>>  American Way?" --Richard Darwin
>
>Okay Dave.... I actually like this one.
>
>:)

Uh, I really wish I knew how to take *that* compliment.

:-)

"I'm a piece of living *hell*?" --Richard Darwin
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From: oyakea@vccnw11.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake)
Subject: Re: Wolverine: Does anyone like this title?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:06:31 GMT

i like wolverine too. nuff said.
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From: laker@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: San Jose comic/card show
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:15:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
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Reply-To: laker@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney)
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	For anyone living in the San Jose area, there is a 

	comic*card show tonight at the Le Baron Hotel 5:00pm-9:30pm

	$1 admission


	Brian "The Mac"


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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Help Me Find REN & STIMPY #1
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 02:19:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.101028.2843@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> beer@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>does anyone know where i can get a copy of Ren & Stimpy #1 edition?
>I cant find it anywhere!!!

Well, don't look for it here! We read the X-books, and wouldn't dare buy a
book that uses cheap marketing gimmicks to sell first issues...

Jay (=

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Wolverine: Does anyone like this title?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:23:28 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <C1AGBr.GMH@news2.cis.umn.edu> bert@snowman.med.umn.edu (Albert Nakano  CBN) writes:
>Is it just my imagination, or am I the only one currently enjoying the
>Wolverine title?  I have much respect for Larry Hama as a writer (something
>artist fanboys and fangirls(?) seem to forget is a crucial component to
>a successful comic book(book, get it?)) and sometimes annoying with the
>disproportionate body plan TEX is also more than up to the task at hand.

No, you're not alone.  I still moderately enjoy the Wolverine title, although
the artwork does not thrill me (but then I stuck through New Mutants during
Demon Bear).  I'm not necessarily pleased with Wolverine's retcon, either.
Half the fun of Wolverine was the mystery... the only mystery that seems to
be left is which memories are real...

I fully expect (hope) that recent retcons of both Wolverine and Rachel/Phoenix
will be UNDONE.  Again, the mystery was what made these characters most
interesting, not the angst.

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From: orpheus@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Grant Jeffrey Barrus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: psylocke
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:30:12 GMT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <27JAN199303151780@zeus.tamu.edu> djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu  
(HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:
> 
> okay . . . . quick question (sorry if this has been stated already)
> but what ever happen to mojo being able to see throught betsy's
> eyes.
> i personally like her new incarnation as much as the old. 
> (the purple flow gowns were a bit much back then though)
> it kinda goes back to x-men annual 11 where she always wanted to be
> the perfect weapon or something. well she now has her wish.
> (or something close to it)
> 
> i must say (if i haven't said so before)
> i did too much care for the x-factor book when it was the ancient x-men
> in the book everyone's powers got boosted too the utmost degree
> and i hated the way they came up with the goblin queen sh*t to make
> cyclops not look like a first class *ss for leaving his wife and kid
> at the drop of a GREY.
> it was like a book of power boosting and excuses
> what ever happen too drake's accounting job? or opal?
> 
> 		seth I 

Drake's accounting job seems to have disappeared.

As for Opal, in X-Cutioners Song, part one, Drake mentioned that he  
think's she's broken up with him, hence her disappearance.

Grant Jeffrey barrus
From: MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu (mark rieker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: POSSIBLE PSYLOCKE RESOLUTION
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:36:35 GMT
 <1993Jan27.031520.11850@wam.umd.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Penn State University


    Yes, you did misqoute Mr. Barrus. The comment you attributed to him, the
   one about a fake Psylocke fooling Brian, was made by me.  Not a great
   comment, but then we're talking about comic books here.


       Mark Rieker
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