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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Moritaka Chisato GIFs
Keywords: 8-bit colour
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:04:58 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

Hi minna-sama:

For those who are interested in buying a Moritaka Chisato poster
calendar but don't want to waste the time to actually go to your
local Japanese media retailer, to check it out, I've got some lousy
GIF's in 8-bit colour that I can encode and email.  7 all together.  
Around 100kB each.

Nothing risque. But a bit cheezy.  The colour ain't the greatest,
but it should give you some idea what you're getting in the real
thing. 

Send email to:  jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU
	   or:  jcliu@128.32.142.195 (IP # format)

Jaa, James
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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: First Love
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:20:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cfHIROq00Uh_80wUxt
	<C0HtsC.2zn@NCoast.ORG>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. CMorton Writes,

.

> 
>I'll be listening for this on Paul Harvey.  It isn't every day that somebody
>teaches a sheep to smoke crack....

I don't smoke Crack. Smoking Crack is like loving America. And, believe
you me, I don't love America! 
>Baaaaaad Rikiko, baaaaaaad....
From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:46:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

I wrote:

>>During 1853-1890s, there
>>were momentous events in the USA; the Civil War, which perhaps gave
>>Japan an extra time to shape up the nation because the USA was
>>going through a painful process of division/reunion of the nation.

To which, Jim Breen relied:

>Hmmm, possibly only true if the US had been the sole player. You have
>taken the typical US-centric view of things, but in fact Britain, Russia
>and France had also been chipping away too. It was just that Perry turned
>up with the most guns and arrogance.

Actually the USA and Russia came and demanded the opening of
Japan's closed borders in 1850s about the same time.
Japanese perceived two countries most threatening.
The fire power of Commodore Perry's "black ships" persuaded most
xenophobic zealots to concede that Japan was hopelessly behind Western
powers. Therefore, my view is a "typical" Japan-centric view.     n

>The *real* affect of the US civil war was to give Britain, France,
>Germany, etc. a free run for about 20 years, before the US got itself
>sorted out. When one reads the history of Japan 1860-1880, one
>is struck by the prominent role of Britain and the relative absence
>of Americans.

Japanese obviously had a foresight to learn baseball from Americans
before they got bogged down in the Civil War.  I can't imagine
Japan without baseball.

>> Japanese sent massive numbers of young students to 
>>Western countries (hedging risks) and imported what they considered
>>suitable for the countries. (The decimal currency and a system of
>>the central bank from the USA; 

>Actually lots of European countries were decimal then, and as for
>a central bank, well Hamilton will be spinning in his grave. I think
>you'll find the Olde Lady of Threadneedle Street was the model.

I certainly won't as I suspect you're not correct unless the Olde
Lady lived on Wall Street. Again Japanese were uncannily forward-
looking in modelling the yen currency system to the US currency
system controlled by Federal Reserve Bank. Japanese compared
various systems and chose the US system as a model by themselves.

>>Military system first from France then
>>Prussia; Railroad second-hand from UK.  Telephone and Postal Services
>>from somewhere else. AT&T? just kidding.)  
>>
>Pommgolia again. Britain also supplied most of the shipping and Navy.

Sorry Jim, I was wrong about AT&T. A recently found document
shows that a Japanese envoy was convinced Telecom Australia
was the way to go after watching the "Australia is so much
better" TV ad in Australia. 

>Japan also got a mainly French legal structure and, with massive 
>repercussions in this century, a Prussian-style constitution.
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From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: Re: Japanese Authors translated to English
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:47:46 GMT

I enjoyed the Autobiography of Yukichi Fukuzawa.  Try it!
-- 
!!! Mike Schneider *** schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu !!!
!!!     Assistant Manager of Systems Services      !!!
!!!            Department of Statistics            !!!
!!!   University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   !!!
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese women, foreign men
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:28:37 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> >In article <1993Jan7.050926.906@fuug.fi>, an3936@anon.penet.fi 
=> >(Silly Question) writes:
=> >
=> >=> I have a funny experience to relate on why some Japanese women like foreign
=> >=> men. The most violent sexual response I have ever got from a woman was when
=> >=> I (as a joke, initially) rubbed the bridge of my (definitely gaijin) nose
=> >=> directly on my (Japanese) girlfriend's clitoris. I just about had my ears torn 

=> In article <7582@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> I wrote:
=> >I thought this was common knowledge, transcending all
=> >cultures and peoples, as all males have noses and all
=> >females have those other things. Gives the word "nosey"
=> >new meaning.

=> But it's not just what you do with it, it's the size that counts.

Sorry... but I don't believe I'm susceptible to Nasal Envy.
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Gifts from America to Japan [SUMMARY]
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:06:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1if73pINNsup
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:
>I went over to Japan on the 27th, bringing with me gifts for my sweetheart's
>family. For the youngest brother (23/24??) I brought an unexpurged copy of
>Madonna's SEX. The customs people opened only that bag (they had never before
>opened any bag and this was the 7th trip in 92) , they ignored all of the 
>other packages and without even opening the giftwrap identified it as that
>book.  Maybe they are telepathic!!!

No, I think they wear special glasses made by Sony.

>Anyway, she came back here for the New Year and then smuggled it back in. 
>The presense of the custom seal just made the gift that much better and he 
>was careful not to damage the seal when he opened the package.

Hmm, so they kept the book until you were leaving Japan (ie did not 
permanently confiscated the book)? You realize you are fraternizing
with an international outlaw :-)
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What is culture? (was: Brainwashied
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:49:27 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <7568@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>
>There seems to be some commonality in most cultures (I won't
>claim to speak for all):
>
>	1) An explanation for "Where did we come from?"
>	2) A wish for a better life for themselves and
>	descendents.
>	3) A recipe to achieve 2) above.
>	4) An accepted notion of social correctness.
>	5) An accepted notion of what constitutes
>	public safety and security and how to maintain it.
>	6) A definition of what constitutes a family unit,
>	an the member's reponsibilities within that family unit.
>	7) An commonly accepted attitude about relationships
>	to other cultures or peoples.
>
>(others, I suppose...)
>
>In accomplishing the above, cultures have made their own peculiar
>adaptations. Whether you shake hands, bow, or wave your spear
>when you meet is really not so important as the symbol of that
>gesture, and the meaning of that symbol within that culture.

Seeing as you've made the claim that it's not valid to judge one
culture as being "better" than another, and that attributes which
imply "better-ness" are probably due to technology and society, not
culture, wouldn't you have to admit that a culture that greets others
by bowing or shaking hands is inherently "better" (in that it promotes
a universally justifiable good known as Peace) than one that shakes a
spear?

To me the answer is clearly yes. I'm of the opinion that one culture
can be judged as better than another based on that culture's promotion
of certain universal truths. And that there are such universal truths.
And that they can be discovered and applied by anyone. In my opinion,
freedom is one of them.  A culture with traditions limiting freedom
(and I'm making no specific claims at this time) is not as good as a
culture that doesn't promote freedom. Balancing out all the possible
universal truths (I.e. whther to promote safety vs. freedom--a common
one in the Japan vs. America debate) is the hard part. But for each
component separately, I think you can determine which culture is
better than another in terms of that one component only. And, if you
could rank the relative merit of each of these truths, it would be
possible to objectively state which cultures were better than others.


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From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Opinions on the book, "The Hollow Doll"
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:30:54 GMT

In article <1i901dINNc89@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> johan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Johan van Zanten) writes:
>
>  I would be somewhat interested in anyone's opinion of a book called,
>"The Hollow Doll (A Little Box of Japanese Shocks) by William J.
>Bohnaker.  The book claims to be a "...astute, funny, and deeply
>disturbing ... inside view of Japanese life, customs, and culture that
>no American traveler ever gets to see."   Bohnaker tries to shield
>himself from "Japan-bashing" accusations in the preface (for at least an
>entire page -- something which should have forwarned me) but i have
>stopped reading the book about 1/2 way through.  Some of the comments
>and observations he makes are interesting, but i really feel he is
>portraying Japanese people singularly in a very negative light, and
>pitching his book for an American audience who will read his
>descriptions and think less of Japanese people afterwards.
>
>  If anyone has any opinions or information on the book, i would be
>interested in reading them.
>
>Thank you.
>
>ps. (I disliked the book enough that i am trying to come up with some
>useful way of recycling it that does not involve it being read ever
>again.  On this matter, too, i would happily entertain suggestions.)
>-- 
>Johan van Zanten   				johan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>Unix Services - The Computation Center - The University of Texas at Austin
>Thought for the day:
> /usr/games/fortune: command not found.

Well, maybe you *wouldn't* be interested in my opinion.  I thought it
was hilarious.  My friends and I were saying "You c'n jes call me 'God
Jesus'" and breaking into hysterical laughter for weeks afterward.
(Yes, you HAVE to read the book to get that one.)

So what if he wrote about everything that drove him crazy about Japan?
Lots of things drive lots of gaijin crazy in Japan -- Bohnaker just
managed to record a significant mass of them.  I read somewhere that
most gaijin develop a "love-hate" relationship with the place if they
stay any time at all -- passing from delight at all the fascinating
strangeness at first, to contempt for all the repulsive strangeness that
they missed at first, and finally into an acceptance of the place for
what it is.  Surely the post-honeymoon phase has been grossly under-
documented.  Bohnaker remedies this deficit masterfully.

There's no implication (as in most J-bashing) that the Japanese are
concocting some kind of evil plot against the world.  If I have any
reading of his book in those terms, it's that present-day Japanese
are a rather unlikely source of evil plots against much of anything.

Flip to the last few pages if you think that Bohnaker left Japan in
some kind of paranoid huff.  Any interpretation of this book as being
essentially mean-spirited is left to the hopelessly humor-impaired.
The rest of us (gaijin, anyway) are still laughing too hard.

[I'd be interested in what your typical Japanese finds equally hilarious 
about the U.S., by the way.]
---
Michael Turner
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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:51:39 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1993Jan6.121648.6879@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>
>JUST HEARD: from a friend.
>
>The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.

   By whom?!

--Michiaki
From: ooi@meis.sony.co.jp (ooi eng_theam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: It's Hangin' Time!
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:00:38 GMT
Organization: Sony Corporation, M&E Information System, Japan
In-reply-to: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp's message of 11 Jan 93 06:47:30 GMT


In article <1993Jan11.064730.5663@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp>,
tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto) writes:

>        I happened to be watching t.v. last week when the subject of
>executions in Japan popped up...I didn't really listen closely at the
>time but from the little that I remember hearing, it seems that there
>have NOT been any executions recently...something like 10 - 20 years?
It's only 3 years consecutively (from November, 1988) and it's a record.

>are convicted and sentenced to the death penalty every year, but in
>order for the actual hanging to take place, it must be approved by
>some head of gov't...(I don't know the title)...and apparently, the
>past three or four people who have held this position, have NOT signed
>the approval papers...I remember hearing that they were reluctant to
>sign it, but I didn't hear the exact reasoning behind this.  So, my
The Minister of Justice have to sign the execution order.
According to Japanese criminal law, death sentences have to be executed within 
6 months of conviction and within 5 days after signing of execution order
by the Minister of Justice.

>the approval papers...I remember hearing that they were reluctant to
>sign it, but I didn't hear the exact reasoning behind this.  So, my
3 Minister of Justice have held office since the last exectuion.
All of them are reluctant to sign the exectuion order. One of them,
MP Satoh who holds the qualification of a monk refused to sign any 
exectuion order on the grounds that it is against his religious
believes.
The newly appointed Minister of Justice MP Goto stresses the
importance of signing of exectuion order to maintain the legal system.
Whether he will sign the exectuion order is the focus of  Amnesty
International as well as anti death sentence groups.
From: seb@stein.u.washington.edu (-s e b a s t i a n-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Offered: GIFs of Naked Rie Miyazawa
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:17:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

>: > I have some very sexy GIFs of RIE Miyazawa...outstanding.
>: > If you can take 100K+ Email...I'll mail one to you uuencoded.
>: > Jim Turley... 

>Look folks! There is a different newsgroup for this sort of thing!
>It is called alt.binaries.pictures.erotica and alt.binaries.pictures.
>erotica.d !!! This type of thing is not at all related to japan other
>than the figure in the pictures happens to be japanese. What it is
>related to is porn and too high hormone levels. This group is not
>appropriate for either!
>-chris barrera     barrera@mtu.edu

	c'mon, some of us just don't get those pic.erotica newsgroups,
	ok?! if u don't like it just skip it. some of us are trying
	to get some awesome gifs here....please do not interrupt our
	activity. thank you. --appropriate or not, who cares?
	
	maybe i'll start posting gifs to this newsgroup --- haha, only kidding!

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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: America Doesn't have a Chance (was: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN?)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:34:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.173102.23668@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:

>I'm not "proposing" that Japan and Germany rearm.  I'm suggesting that if
>the U.S. removes military forces from the defense of Europe and Japan, they
>will in fact rearm for their own protection.  The conflict is an economic
>one.  The present U.S. budget will not continuation of the last 12 years
>of military spending as well as increases to health care and other social
>welfare.  With the removal of the Soviet Union as a counter to the U.S.,
>both Japan and Germany will wish to become military powers in order to 
>continue their economic progress.

Again, there are two problems with the above scenario. 1) Russia STILL has 
nuclear weapons, lots of 'em, and there is no reason to believe they wouldn't
use them against Germany if they felt the Germans were getting "ambitious"
again. (BTW, France, Britain, China, etc, have nuclear voices as well) I would 
not say there is now a military void in the area (and Russian conventional 
forces are still impressive). 2) If our budget has been sapped by military 
spending for the past (fill in your favorite number -> __) years, and this has 
hurt us economically, WHY ON EARTH would Japan/Germany start spending MORE on 
their military? Wouldn't that sap THEIR economic strentgh as well? If military 
threats to them have in fact receeded, who is there to rearm against? Were 
they previously "smart" not to be so armed, but now suddenly they will become
afflicted with stupidity?

And, again, Japan and Germany have recently CUT defense spending. A strange 
thing to do if you feel the need to rearm to protect your business interests.

To paraphrase what I said before "Business is good for business". Wars and 
conflicts tend to disrupt that. 

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Moritaka Chisato GIFs
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:04:13 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

Thanks to Chu-san at chup@ecf.toronto.edu, I was informed of
the ferkel.ucsb.edu (128.111.72.60) server which has anonymous ftp 
capability.  Moritaka Chisato's GIFs have been posted there under
pub/jpop directory.  They may still remain in the ./incoming directory
or be moved to the ./images/ directory.

The titles are:

    chisato1.GIF
    chisato12.GIF
    chisato34.GIF
    chisato56.GIF
    chisato78.GIF
    chisato910.GIF
    chisato1112.GIF

Jaa, James
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From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:29:01 GMT
	<1993Jan6.190759.19498@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan

In article <1993Jan6.190759.19498@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU
   (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

 =}I am also told that the announcement was made because the news was
 =}disclosed by Washington Post.  If that is the case, then it has
 =}repeated the precedent of the current Emperor's marriage.
 =}There was a time-limited mutual agreement among the Imperial Dept.
 =}and the Press to avoid overheated reporting on the issue.
 =}I do not know whether it has expired, or were applicable to
 =}foreign press.

   Must have been a negative time limit :)  The press has been full
of this since the rumor first broke.  Imagine having ones favorite
programs interrupted for announcements like:

	"Ms. Owada has now left her residence after having cooked her
	father eggs for breakfast."

   I kept remembering the news breaks from "Kentucky Fried Movie" or
some of the Monty Python skits...
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read email during that time.  My company will be on vacation from
12/29 - 1/4 and our news and mail servers will be down during that time...

   Sorry for the inconvenience...
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