From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Human rights in the USA.
Keywords: USA
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:17:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Enrique Cortes-Rello writes:

>[1]. how do you know that I am not an american citizen?
>     because of my name?

No, I infered it simply 'cause you felt offended when I was chastising those 
who came here simply to make a buck and not to escape political persecution.

>[2]. Well ... guess what? I am not ! I came here to
>     get advanced education and I am planning to go
>     back to my country ASAP and do some good there.

Well you should.  First because you don't occupy a job which would otherwise 
belong to a U.S. citizen.  Second, 'cause you'll do better for your cuates in 
Mexico by returning since, given the constant brain drain, Third, 'cause its 
one less hater of our yanqui government within the U.S.  You see, It uptsets my 
stomach when I listen to my Colombian friends talking crap about the United 
States every day.  The damned yanquis!!  However if you offer them a job and a 
green card they'll do anything to avoid returning to Colombia.  Perhaps if they 
hate us so much they should simply stay in Cali. So, in your case, you should 
be proud returning with grace and honor to your patria.

>     So, no fast buck for me (unless I win the lotto)
>     (WHich country? letsee ... it is in America,
>     it is in North America, the native language is
>     Spanish ...)

>[3]. I am also AMERICAN. I was born in america and
>     raised in america (the continent). So, we have
>     something in common.

Yeah, but you were born in America1 and I was born in America2.  You know that 
we yanquis have given a diferent meaning to the word America, so why not use it 
like Johnson did when he said "My fellow Americans..."  He certainly was not 
referring to the batos in Mexico.

>[4]. I see that my comment bothered you. Why? You are
>     here for economic reasons, aren't you? Why aren't
>     you in San Juan or Guam or the Ozarks?

I'm not here for economic reasons, I here for political reasons, I escaped all 
the PC nationalist ideological repression in Puerto Rico which was driving me 
up a wall.:-)

No, the real reason I swithched residence from Puerto Rico to the "mainland", 
after having lived my infancy in Florida, is simply that the University of 
Puerto Rico did not have a research program in the area which I wanted to do 
research.  My other choice was to study law as my father, and become rich in 
Puerto Rico.  Instead I decided to return to the continent for some time.  So I 
hopped to Wisconsin, and later came to California, and who know where I might 
end up next.  I might even return to the Commonwealth for some time.  You see 
the advantages of being born in the U.S.A.  we don't have to say "I swear I 
will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against its 
enemies foreign or domestic" in order to get my citizenship papers.  We simply 
do this out of our civic responsability.

>     To move to a better place for economic reasons is
>     one of the basis of capitalism. Just look at all
>     the wealth created by south east Asia immigrants
>     in California (yes, many of them were "economic
>     refugees").

Yeah, but times are a changing and we have surplus manpower up here, so uless 
you are fleeing political opression, just stay put.  We don't wan't to create 
more problems with the farm workers we already have here.  Well call you if we 
need you.  

>[5]. I know perfectly well that Puerto Ricans are citizens
>     of the US. Unfortunately, many of your "mainland"
>     compatriots do not know this fact and treat your people
>     (and MINE) like the scum of the earth.I strongly feel
>     that the following analogy holds: " Puerto Ricans are
>     to the U.S. what NorthAfricans are to France". Sad but
>     true. FIX IT!

Fortunately, your analogy with Algeria does not hold.  Not all algerians were 
French citizens, and it was precisely this mass of muslims the one which 
exploded in their nationalist insurgency agains French colonialism.  In sharp 
contrast ALL Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and we are so damned loyal that we 
constitue 7% of all enlisted men/women in the Armed Forces.  Hell, we even had 
an Puerto Rican Admiral in the Joint Chiefs of Staff!!!  So, as you see our 
country has been more egalitarian in this respect than France. BTW, I don't see 
in all of Puerto Ricos history a insurgency of any remote comparison with that 
of Algiers.

>[6]. I have the utmost respect for the Puerto Ricans that
>     I have met. They are hard workers with a strong
>     sense of decency and strong "family values" [in the
>     good sense, not in the ultrarightwing sense]. I feel
>     exactly the same about the Haitians. What about you?
>     Where is your compassion?

Oh! I have a lot of compassion for thosE Hatians who have suffered 
persecutions from the Military and have come to the U.S. in search of liberty 
and freedom.  And for those who are suffering economic depravation I also feel 
a lot of compassion and hope our government lifts its embargo and ships more 
food aid so that they can eat.  Of course, part of my compassion also includes 
the hope that they don't have to leave Haiti simply on economic grounds, for 
there is little we can do for them up here.  Otherwise our entire country would 
be flooded by Latin America's misery belts and they would be exploited as 
ilegal aliens in our sweat shops and niether you nor I wan't this to happen.  
That's why we tell them either to rebel, or stay put.

>cheers compadre ! You are taking life way too seriously.

Orale.  I'll take your advice as a joke.

>Si vivieras mas cerca de Arizona, te invitaria a tomar unas
>buenas cervecitas Mexicanas para platicar y convencerte de que
>todos los Latinoamericanos somos hermanos (incluyendo los
>Puertorriquen~os).

Dos X o Tecate estarian bien, junto con unas buenas chimichangas de puerco.  
Alli te podria convencer de que todos los latinoamericanos somos hermanastros 
que solo tenemos la lengua y el pinchi catolicismo en comun.   Y claro, como 
somos buenos hijos de la chingada madrastra patria, los boricuas nos fuimos al 
norte y nos casamos con una gringota.  Ya tenemos casi 100 an~os de matrimonio 
y nos va muy bien.

Edelmiro