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From: woody@terapin.com (Butch Adler)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: Are most letterman fans also Seinfeld fans ?
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:31:41 PST
Organization: BBS

Seinfeld? yeah I like him, I like Cheers a lot better, and Dave is fine where
he is, and I'd hate to see him leave, but if he's going to... I'd like to see
NBC dump Jay to make Dave happy, sometimes my tv doesn't get ABC in a real good
reception, so if he'd do it out of convience, I bet more people would like it
do to the many annoying NBC affiliates there are.. just a thought.
From: tclark@Apple.COM (Tom Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: just a thought
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:27:13 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec16.211810.16086@gallant.apple.com> unknown@apple.com (Matt Ackeret) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.050316.6335@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> deanna allen,
>dallen@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:
>> Just a thought to all you fans out there.....
>>Homey the Clown and Flunky the Clown
>>twin sons of different mothers or is the fact they have
>>never been seen together just coincidence?
>
>the same guy created both of them.

That's a good point.  It's amazing how many of Dave's writers have moved
over to Fox.  Chris Elliot, Adam Resnick, Larry Jacobsen (aka Bobby Rahal),
etc...

I've seen their names mentioned on credits from Elliot, Married w/ Children,
In Living Color, ummm... any more?

On a side note, how about Edd Hall as Leno's lap dog?  He's come a long way!


-Tom
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From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: N.O.R.M.
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:23:39 GMT

B7XS <B7XS@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA> writes:

>On last nite's show Monday the 12th, a repeat from January '92
>Dave read viewer mail. One of the mailings was concerning
>a club called N.O.R.M.(National organization of real men)
>or something to that effect.In order to be included in this
>organization men must like:beer, women, sports and crazy
>late nite talk show hosts. If there really is a club

That's:  smart-ass late night talk show hosts

>like this I would really like to join.

>Where can I sign-up?

I thought that's what fraternities were for.

-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"
From: bjones@denitqm.uswest.com (Brent Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: Letterman "crashes" Clinton Press Conference
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:07:42 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.letterman
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies

In article <1992Dec19.161554.7379@vela.acs.oakland.edu>,
jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) wrote:
> 
> Anyone see Fridays episode when Bill Clinton was doing a press conference, and
> Dave (who sonehow got there wearing a tee shirt and hat) asked him about trying
> to get Grand Funk Railroad back together.  I couldn't stop laughing.
> 
[snip]

> ************************************************************************
> Jeff Wojtalewicz (Wojo)  jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu
> Oakland University		      Start Hacking
> ************************************************************************

It was pretty damn funny, but Dave didn't "crash" anything. The whole
deal was pretty obviously just some tape inserted into stock footage of
Clinton's conference. Lighting, quality, etc. were markedly different
between Dave's scenes and Clinton's.

As technology becomes more and more sophisticated, it will be harder and
harder to tell what's real and what isn't.

--
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"of beautiful weeds that cannot hide from the farmer and helplessly have 
to watch the shadow of his simian stoop leave mangled flowers in its wake, 
as the monstrous darkness approaches."--V. Nabokov _Signs and Symbols_
From: krotenko@unixg.ubc.ca (Lana Krotenko)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Dave at Museum of TV and Radio
Date: 23 Dec 1992 20:06:52 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

I thought some of you might be interested in the following:

When I was in New York last May I spent some time at the Museum of
Television and Radio. As those of you that have been there know, 
they have a very user-friendly online search system set up where
you can sit at a terminal and find out what they have that 
interests you, then you request a number of shows, and go watch
them at your own video monitor.
 
I did a search for "Letterman, David" and this is what I found:
 
June 3,1982 - LNWDL - Bob & Ray, Fran Lebowitz
July 29,1982 - LNWDL - Andy Kaufman & wrestler 
May 21,1981 - Daytime Emmys - Dave's morning show wins, clip from show
1981 - HBO Special - "David Letterman - Looking for Fun"
Feb.12,1982 - LNWDL - Bob & Ray, ...
Feb.26,1979 - $20,000 Pyramid - Dave is "Celebrity" guest
Mar.30,1986 - Comic Releif 4 - Camping Video with Dave, Paul & Chris Elliot
Dec.19,1984 - LNWDL - Christmas with the Lettermans
 
They also had a number of episodes in archive that I didn't write down.
Archive shows are stored off-site and have to be requested several days
in advance.
 
I found it interesting to see what shows were considered to be 
Museum-Worthy. Sometimes when the show is going badly, Dave will
say "Call the Museum of Broadcasting, we want this one to go right
into the archives". And indeed, some of his shows are there.

Lana
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From: victorm@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Victor Morris)
Subject: Re: Distributing Top Ten Lists
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:51:06 GMT
Reply-To: victorm@hpsmeng1.rose.hp.com
Organization: THE ROOT CAUSE 
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Michael Jenkinson (mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca) wrote:
: In <1h9a8kINNb5l@agate.berkeley.edu> slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Shelley Louie) writes:
: 
: >Well, I get the SF Examiner and they are kind enough to print the previous
: >night's Top Ten List. There appears to be no copyright to it. Instead at the
: >bottom it says "Courtesy of NBC'. Sounds like there's no copyright, so the
: >distribution is legal... I think.... 
: 
: If it says "Courtesy of NBC" then it sounds like the Examiner has
: permission to reprint the lists. This shareware package had no such
: disclaimer.
: 
: What is NBC's address anyway...?
: 
: Michael

Here's the Viewer Mail Address:

Viewer Mail
Late Night with David Letterman
c/o NBC
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10020

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From: B7XS <B7XS@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: N.O.R.M.
Organization: McGill University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:34:10 GMT

On last nite's show Monday the 12th, a repeat from January '92
Dave read viewer mail. One of the mailings was concerning
a club called N.O.R.M.(National organization of real men)
or something to that effect.In order to be included in this
organization men must like:beer, women, sports and crazy
late nite talk show hosts. If there really is a club
like this I would really like to join.

Where can I sign-up?

J.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
From: todd@uvmark.uucp (Todd Cooper)
Subject: NYT reports NBC likely to keep Letterman
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:25:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMark Software, Inc.


A New York Times Article on the front page of the Business section Monday,
12/21 reports that Mr. Letterman might be retained by NBC and given the 
tonight show job.  The report says that NBC makes approx. $300 million from 
Mr. Letterman and does not want to lose him.  It also says that they do 
not want to have to compete the Tonight show with a show on another network
by Mr. Letterman.  NBC is really hurting in its prime time ratings and does
not want to have to give up its superiority in the late night ratings.

The article also explained that some executives would be admitting making a
mistake by placing Mr. Leno in the Tonight show position.

In my opinion, they should radically change the whole layout. Move the local
news, move the Tonight Show, and move Late Night/with Letterman.  The only
problem is convincing the affiliates that they could make more money by having
local news at a different time from the competition.  There was also mention
of letting Mr. Letterman produce several prime time specials.  This would 
placate him, while giving him an earlier Late Night would also make him happy.

Perhaps they can even shorten either the Tonight show, Late night, or both
shows.

If they give the Tonight show to Dave, Paul will no longer have a job.  I
doubt that his band plays the type of things that they want for the Tonight 
show. Maybe they will move Paul and hire a new band. Maybe Marsalis will work
with Schaffer (sp?).
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From: rnovak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak)
Subject: Re: NYT reports NBC likely to keep Letterman
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 16:11:14 GMT

thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:

>>I am proposing to keep Letterman where he is and Leno where he is.  Change the
>>times of the Tonight show and Late night show (News at 10pm, Tonight at 10:30,
>>and Late night at 11:30).  This is a radical change and I don't know if it will
>>be well received.
>>-- 

>OH.. that has *no* hope of working.. assuming you're talking East Coast times
>here.  The whole point of "Late Night" television is that it's on late at night.
>You'd never be able to invade the Prime Time spectrum with talk shows they 
>arn't *that* interesting compared to the Prime Time Fare....

He's talking central standard time, or eastern daylight time, in all
likelihood. East Coast news is at 11pm in most cases (some independent
stations go an hour earlier). I think...

Idea: Dave at 12:30 EST or whatever he is now, PLUS Half an hour up
against the Simpsons every week. Who would win?

Robert
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From: swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren)
Subject: Re: Ratings & Rush
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:59:22 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In article <1992Dec23.140602.6563@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>Yup, that's DAVE all right, but... i've never really thought of right-wing
>conservatives as generally being comedyphiles.`

Give me a break.  You think everyone has to agree with you politically
to have a sense of humor?  Talk about ego-centricity...

>              ...  Just look at how the Bush
>administration reacted to comedy like Murphy Brown and Howard Stern, etc.

Occassionally Democrats with no sense of humor get in power too.  So what
does that prove?

>just too "far out" for most right-wing fundies.  Also, the typical VERY
>enthusiastic reaction among the studio audience to Dave's many (great)
>bush/quayle jokes tend to reinforce that idea.

A lot of Republicans winced when they checked off George Bush's name
on the ballot.  They probably also laughed at Dave's jokes.  I did.
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From: danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: The Lost Top Ten Lists
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:45:06 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: xploit.eng.pyramid.com

amconn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

|> Yesterday (Saturday) after the NFL game on NBC, the boys on the postgame show
|> did a "tribute" to the departing Bob Costas. One of the bits was Dave doing a
|> top ten list entitled "Why Bob Costas is Leaving NFL Live." This reminded of
|> two other original (i.e., not done on the regular show) top ten lists Dave has
|> done. One was last summer during ESPN's broadcast of the Belgian GP, and the
|> other was during an ESPN anniversary celebration. Does anyone recall anymore of
|> these "lost" top ten lists, or better yet, have copies of them?

Top ten enjoyable things about EPSN's Formula One coverage (from Belgian GP)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

10. Getting up at dawn to watch European races makes weekend seem 
    really long.

9. Just crazy about new pit lane reporter, Robin Leach.

8. Own life gains perspective knowing Bertand Gachot has done time.

7. New tire of Craftsman commerical featuring AJ Foyt telling us how
   much he loves wrenches.

6. Staying up until Midnight Sunday to watch tape delayed coverage of
   Japanese and Australian races makes weekend seem really long.

5. Sight of garage doors closing at speed of light as drivers are
   pursued for interviews good lesson for youngsters.

4. Never know when outbreak of legionnairs' disease may enable Andrea
   de Cesaris to finish in the points.

3. Entire family loves to imagine David Hobbs being strip-searched
   at customs.

2. Still hoping for consensus on pronunciation of Ayrton Senna.

1. Just plain fun to say Mika Hakkinen.
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: New Tonight Show Theme....
Date: 29 Dec 1992 14:05:47 GMT
Organization: clearer than blir
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <1992Dec29.132643.9321@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> it is written:
>
>Did everyone hear the "new" Tonight Show theme? It's much more
>singable/hummable (one of the early criticisms of the jazz sound of the
>"original" "new" theme), and features a vocalist...
>
>"Stand By Your Man"
>
>I'm serious. They did it yesterday during the monologue. I almost fell
>down laughing, except that I was in bed so it wouldn't have been as far of
>a fall. :-)
>
>Has he been doing stuff like this since the Letterman crises began?

Yes. Middle of last week the phone behind his desk rang. The person on
the other end was from CBS and was mistaking Leno for Dave. Actually
it was a pretty poor bit, and seemed to bomb among the live audience,
but I found it reasonably humorous.

In general, Jay's been far from quiet on the issue. He also has
complained in interviews that not *once* since he started has any NBC
exec at any level, patted him on the back and said he was doing a good
job.  Or, "you're are man" or anything like that. He says that if NBC
screws him, and he acts pretty sure they will, he's gone. Possibly
even, he says, to CBS to compete against Dave if Dave stays with NBC.
Weird.

The thing with firing his manager, Kushnik, as executive producer
already had him on edge (he was close to leaving just over that
alone). So I'm not sure why people think he *wants* to stay even if
NBC *doesn't* axe him. I don't think there will be a great Letterman
vs. Leno ratings battle. No matter how it comes down, I just don't see
it. NBC is already convinced, too late, that Leno has already lost the
time slot if it's Leno against Dave. TV is too cynical to play with
that even for a few weeks. Dave either stays and Leno goes. Or Dave
leaves and Leno goes. That's how I see it. (Mark my words.)
Dana Carvey could get the Tonight Show. Maybe the talk with him's
been that direction all along. All kinds of strange stuff could happen,
you guys just watch.

But I'm with Dave all the way. I was with him when he was standup.  I
was with him in the morning. I was with him the first night Late Night
went on, and for the first season when I'd say to people: "Have you
caught Late Night? It's *funny*." and people didn't know what I was
talking about.

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From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: NYT reports NBC likely to keep Letterman
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:41:10 GMT
    <1992Dec22.224126.20660@cs.wisc.edu> <1992Dec23.160732.22161@uvmark.uucp>
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1992Dec23.160732.22161@uvmark.uucp> todd@uvmark.uucp (Todd Cooper) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.224126.20660@cs.wisc.edu> gopher@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Chris Bovitz) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec22.142511.61834@uvmark.uucp> todd@uvmark.uucp (Todd Cooper) writes:
>>
>>
>
>I am proposing to keep Letterman where he is and Leno where he is.  Change the
>times of the Tonight show and Late night show (News at 10pm, Tonight at 10:30,
>and Late night at 11:30).  This is a radical change and I don't know if it will
>be well received.
>-- 

OH.. that has *no* hope of working.. assuming you're talking East Coast times
here.  The whole point of "Late Night" television is that it's on late at night.
You'd never be able to invade the Prime Time spectrum with talk shows they 
arn't *that* interesting compared to the Prime Time Fare....

Alex
From: porges@beretta.camb.inmet.com (Don Porges)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: Letterman "crashes" Clinton Press Conference
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:13:52 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc.

In article <1992Dec19.161554.7379@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:
>Anyone see Fridays episode when Bill Clinton was doing a press conference, and
>Dave (who sonehow got there wearing a tee shirt and hat) asked him about trying
>to get Grand Funk Railroad back together.  I couldn't stop laughing.
>
Nice choice of band, I thought, though perhaps not intentional:

(Last night in Little Rock, put 'em in a haze...)
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From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: Are most letterman fans also Seinfeld fans ?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:38:12 GMT

malik@clam.rutgers.edu (adnan Malik) writes:


>        Is it just me or is anyone who is a Letterman fan also a Seinfeld
>fan..??? Post your name up here if you are both ....

Definately!   Seinfeld ranks really close to Late Night as the best TV
show on the air in my book.  

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From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: NYT reports NBC likely to keep Letterman
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:18:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom

thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:
>>I am proposing to keep Letterman where he is and Leno where he is.  Change the
>>times of the Tonight show and Late night show (News at 10pm, Tonight at 10:30,
>>and Late night at 11:30).  This is a radical change and I don't know if it will
>OH.. that has *no* hope of working.. assuming you're talking East Coast times
>here.  The whole point of "Late Night" television is that it's on late at night.
>You'd never be able to invade the Prime Time spectrum with talk shows they 
>arn't *that* interesting compared to the Prime Time Fare....



PARDON !?!?!?!?!?!?
Have you seen what they're currently showing during primetime?
I think that if they showed Godzilla movie reruns, they would
probably get better rating points than what the current shows
are getting.




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Jay Leno interview excerpts.
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:49:31 GMT
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I read a newspaper article over the weekend that had excerpts of an AP
interview with Jay Leno.  Jay said that it was "funny" how he hasn't
heard any encouraging words from NBC brass, not even something as
simple as "You're doing a good job".  He said that if NBC alters his
job in any way, like moving his time slot or taking him off the
Tonight Show, then "I'm gone".  He also said that he'd go to CBS in a
second if NBC removed him from the Tonight Show.
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Date: Saturday, 2 Jan 1993 11:02:51 CST
From: Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: NBC retail store shunning Dave?

I was just in NY for the holidays, and stopped in at Rockefeller Center
to get some LNWDL gear at the NBC store.  Was I surprised when I found
hardly anything to choose.  Seems like most of the store is loaded with
'The Tonight Showing with Jay Leno' stuff, but only a few racks with
LNWDL T-shirts.   I was there about 18 months ago and I recall
the exact opposite was true.  There was everything from mugs, to keychains,
to gear bags, hats and shirts with the LNWDL logo.  No evidence of any
thing like that now.  Very disappointing.
From: malik@clam.rutgers.edu (adnan Malik)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Are most letterman fans also Seinfeld fans ?
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:47:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


        Is it just me or is anyone who is a Letterman fan also a Seinfeld
fan..??? Post your name up here if you are both ....

        By the way, I don't want Dave to move, I like him where he is.
But, if he wants to move, no problem, I just hope he stays in the
12:30-1:30 time slot.

                       Later...
                          Adnan Malik
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: just a thought
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 11:22:41 GMT


tclark@Apple.COM (Tom Clark) writes:
 >It's amazing how many of Dave's writers have moved over to Fox.  
 >Chris Elliot, Adam Resnick, Larry Jacobsen (aka Bobby Rahal), etc...

One of the first was Kevin Curran, who is now Supervising Producer for
Married With Children.  He has written around a dozen episodes, and also
is usually the VOICE of Buck the Dog!   Larry Jacobsen is currently the
Executive Story Editor for MWC, and he has written about 6 episodes.
He also played a game show host in one, and both LJ and KC have done
several cameos as well...

 >I've seen their names mentioned on credits from Elliot, 

Adam Resnick was a co-creator for GET A LIFE.  He also had Producer credit,
in addition to writing 6 episodes and co-writing 5 others...  Of course
Chris Elliot had the same producer/creator credits, as well as being the
STAR of that *great* show (only 35 episodes unfortunately).
From: wdavid@unf6.unf.edu (Bill David)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: First meeting with Meg
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:00:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

>|>
>|> >   "Things That Have Happened In Meg's Office..."  :-)
>|> >
>|> >- a wedding
>|> >- hairstyling (one of Meg's co-workers)
>|> >- a Christmas carol sung by the Harlem Boys' Choir
>|> >- ... <fill in the blank> ...
>|> 
>|> 
>|> Also
>|> - boys choir singing carols
>|> - flying a large bird from NBC to her office (what was that bird, anyway?)
>|> - having Meg try to swing her phone handset out her window to an office below

My favorite: Billy Dee Williams delivering a six-pack of malt liquor.

-Bill
wdavid@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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