HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: It's a crying shame
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 11:04:07 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian A Parkin) writes:

> There was quite a good story in the paper today, a possible UL. It
> told of two TV news casters in Zimbabwe who were disciplined for
> bursting out in laughter after reading a story about a woman who gave 
> birth on a train. The baby was born in the toilet on the train,
> literally 'in the toilet' and was flushed through to the track below. 
> The train was halted and the baby was found fortunately alive.
> 
> This was in the Argus (Cape Town Paper Daily) on 28th December
> (today). The newsreader bit might be true but the baby falling from
> a train got me wondering. Why on earth would a woman give birth into
> a toilet? Still it could happen..

It would be about the only place where you could sit down and would be
private. Deliveries are usually made while the woman squats.

Funny thing is that I heard the same story while in Zambia at Christmas
time in 1991.


-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
  This .sig unintentionally left blank.

Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:33243 sci.bio:4850
From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.bio
Subject: Re: My mother the gorilla
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:13:02 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

A person shares with another person 99.8% of their DNA
                with a chimpanzee   98.4%
                with a gorilla      98.3%

From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
> How much, if any, do we share with Lemurs?
-----------

This question of Joel's accidentally raises some interesting questions.
I had a long argument with my wife the other night on a related topic,
and it only ended when she threw the pillow at me, and pointed out that
neither of us had the data on which to draw conclusions.
The debate was over "how much DNA do all mammals have in common?"

My guess is that every living creature built out of cells, has say 50%
of DNA in common with other cellular life forms.  Similarly, the further
away from Homo Sapiens you get in the classification, the less in 
common.   Perhaps all primates (inc the Archbishops of York & Cantab)
have at least 95% of DNA in common.    Perhaps all mammals have at least
75% in common.   After all, the DNA gives the instructions to build a 
hairy, warm-blooded, four-limbed, live-young-bearing, milk-giving, tongued
creature, and the rest is just fine-tuning.

The difference between chimps & people is 1.4% of DNA -- actually I guess
that a lot of that relates to brain development, since our physical
structures are (grossly) similar.   1% of DNA is a hell of a lot, since the
genome is so huge.   If we knew how much DNA chimps & gorillas had in common 
I could develop some more theories.   
Alas, we can't conclude that chimps & gorillas are only .1% different
in DNA, because "has n% DNA in common" is not a transitive relation.  And
your relations will indeed be transitory if you screw this up.

Would someone please do 2 years of research and check this out?

ObUL:      You remember that story about a gorilla called "KoKo" that
     kept a pet kitten?    They eventually produced a glossy photobook
     called "KoKo's kitten" that described how this came about and all
     the interactions.
     
     It came to an end when the kitten wandered from the gorilla's cage
     and got run over.  The gorilla (allegedly) used sign language to
     say that it wanted another kitten.  I think it's much more likely
     that it signed to its keeper "want pussy!  now!" and something was
     lost in the translation.

ObUL2: I'm working on a exploitation book that tells the story from the
     kitten's viewpoint (e.g. a "Fluffy's Gorilla" sort of thing), only
     I'm calling it "Caged Lesbo Bestiality Love Slaves" in order to
     attract the younger reader.

ObUL3: the gorilla didn't *really* know any language -- it was just pretty
     good at seeing what seemed to get its keeper Penny Patterson all excited.
From: kgg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Kees Goossens)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Something in the FAQ list...
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:24:46 GMT
Reply-To: kgg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Kees Goossens)
Organization: The Lavatory for the Foundations of Computer Science

In article <1993Jan7.013729.22305@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>>Not the frequency of the light, the frequency of flashing.  I expect that the
>>flashing rate of a fire engine's siren is somewhere around one millionth MHz.
>
>I know it's not nettiquette to pick on non-native English
>speakers (Canadiens speak Eskimo don't you?), 

Canadiennes or Canadians?
Non-native English speakers usually speak and write better English than
Americans (which of course excludes Canadians).

>but, sirens are things that make big noise, at a few thousand hertz. 

In Paris during the days when a siren was a brunette and Frenchmen did not
only turn off the light in the evening for air-raids..
	"Ninotchka" -- the film in which Garbo laughs.

-- 
Kees Goossens                       Keep in Touch with the Dutch:
LFCS, Dept. of Computer Science     JANET: kgg@dcs.ed.ac.uk
University of Edinburgh, Scotland   UUCP:  ..!mcsun!uknet!dcs!kgg
Wiskunde is bouwen in de geest.	--- Luitzen Egbertus Jan Brouwer.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Subject: Re: CD Legends
Organization: HICAM/OSD
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:23:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.074413.7594@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>I think the record for chopping a song is a tossup between the excised version
>of Spinning Wheel and We Won't Get Fooled Again...

The single version of "Spinning Wheel" replaces the horn break with a terse,
Steve Cropper-ish guitar solo which is *not* on the LP version, so I wouldn't
call that a strict chop job.  But speaking of BS&T, the CD release of "Greatest
Hits" uses the full-length versions of all the tracks, unlike the LP which
used the single edits.  Whoever packaged the CD never bothered to change the
timings on the J-card and booklet, though.

I think the record for chopping a song is Rare Earth's "Get Ready", edited
from at least 20 minutes down to 2:48.  Unless you want to count "Rewind
Medley", the B-side of Johnny Rivers' "Tracks Of My Tears", which edited
the entire "Rewind" LP down to 3 minutes or so...

AWR
old fart at play
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Subject: Re: SNAFU list
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:41:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.045431.15391@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:

>Speaking of bad popular music, I saw in today's newspaper
>that F.M. is going to perform this and other songs at one of the
>Inaugural functions in DC.  It took Democrats to bring a F.M.
>revival.

Bad? I s'pose you'd rather be listening to that "You Gotta Believe"
tripe.

ObUL: People are ripping down Calvin Klein poster ads in bus
stations, just to get free Mark Wahlberg posters. How low can you get?

Tep
-- 
If you wake up and don't want to smile, if it takes | Dear Lord, give
just a little while, open your eyes and look at the | me chastity...  
day, you'll see things in a different way. Don't    |    but not yet. 
stop thinking about tomorrow.       --Fleetwood Mac | --St. Augustine
From: curt.tucker@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Curt Tucker) 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Light--but White?
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:03:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: curt.tucker@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Curt Tucker) 


From the FAQ:

  >F. Kid in Michael Jackson's commercial breaks neck and dies
  from:

I seem to remember hearing something in the last few days about a
Michael Jackson commercial (British documentary?) being produced
(by Pepsi?) which features a young actor playing Michael as a
child. The young actor was alleged to be white.

The makers of the commercial/film/whatever responded only that
the actor was chosen as having the best likeness to the young
Jackson, or something like that.

Can anyone comment on the accuracy, truth, or falseness of this
account? I don't remember where I heard it.

--Curt--                          curt.tucker@ehbbs.gwinnett.com
---
 . QMPro 1.01   . Long Live the Copernican Revolution!
                                              
----
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|       Ed Hopper's BBS - ehbbs.gwinnett.com - Atlanta, Georgia         |
|  USR/HST: 404-446-9462                  V.32bis: 404-446-9465         |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: What new innovation, software or products do you want to see?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:36:16 GMT

Babak sehari writes:
> automatically posted to all unix wide bbs'

Sounds like he left his terminal unattended.

ObUL: Was Babak the name of the elephant king?

-J.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Cats bursting into flame (WAS: Re: Cars Bursting into Flame)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:17:58 GMT

In article <C0G17n.Mt6.1@cs.cmu.edu> rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss) writes:
>[cat inceneration plot deleted]
>Bob "I will not explode" Huss

Did you pick up all this combustion info from great-great-grandpa Jan?

Bruce "smoking more and enjoying it less" Tindall


--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:49:33 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1993Jan5.191741.26982@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pwhitman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Philip N Whitman) writes:
>Can anyone identify a major city for me that does not have a street named
>after Martin Luther King, Jr.?

Johannesburg?



-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
 _______
 _______} This is a Usenet condom<tm>.  Roll the condom over the .signature 
	  file before posting to protect yourself from .sig retro-virii
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Peter Norton, son of Betty Crocker
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:28:16 GMT

datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) asks:
>Didn't Betty Crocker redesign that face in the 80's to make her look
>like a Yuppie career woman? Even if they didn't, the face has been
>changed over the decades.

BC has changed, but not nearly as much as Aunt Jemima.  Old
product shows a fat "Mammy" type character of the period,
whereas new illustrations show a thin contemporary relatively
young black woman.

ObUL: One can buy 'Darkie' toothpaste in parts of Asia, that
has a picture of a black fellow on the tube.

>I don't need you to worry for me 'cause I'm all right | Dear Lord, give
>I don't want you to tell me it's time to come home.   | me chastity...
>I don't care what you say anymore, this is my life.   |    but not yet.
>Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone. --B. Joel| --St. Augusine

Ob.sigQuote: Sonny and Cher's daughter is named Chastity.

Jon "Buys only PC products" Papai
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: Re: Doggone (was: Ring in the New Year with Some FAQs
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:04:50 GMT

In article <BVFXwB7w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
>fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>
>> In article <28203@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>> >  "I'm not making this up. I've seen a wargame of the battle of Stalingrad
>> >     which includes an optional counter for mine dogs, so it must be true.
>> 
>> My son got a book about Dog breeds for Christmas which mentions the
>> story of Russians training dogs to carry explosives into enemy personnel
>> carriers. I don't have a clue to the story's value, but for you
>> afficianados of Dog Shows, the breed descriptions of this book are
>> straight out of the USA network broadcast of the Westchester (Westminster?)
>> Dog Show. Catch it if you can this year. 
>> -- 
>> Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> One never knows, do one?
>
>
>I remember reading this story years ago, but I forget the source.
>I do recall that the Russians had supposedly trained dogs to run under 
>German tanks and stay there until the explosives went off.  Unfortunately 
>the dogs never did learn to distinguish between German and Russian tanks 
>so the experiment was called off.  So went the story i read.  Not sure I 
>believe it.


I have references, which I quoted to Terry, which is why the subject
is covered in the latest FAQ, but not the 'wargame counters' thing
quoted above - look at the difference posting.

What can be documented is that the German high command *believed* the
Russians were training dogs to run under tanks with explosives.  The
"stay there" speculation above is just that.  The description was of
an explosive satchel charge with a rod-trigger sitcking up from the 
dog's back like an antenna, so there was no need for the dogs to wait
for anything.  The problems seemed to be that the dogs were trained
(rather easily) by feeding them *only* under (Russian) tanks.  Nobody
seemed to realize the mistake.  Essentially all Russian tanks were Diesel
engined, and essentially none of the German tanks were. I guess smell
was not an important sense to Russian ordinance experimenters.  The stories
vary from discovering the problem in limited testing all the way to
a mass release of dogs in battle all creating "frendly fire" statistics.

According to my sources, the only _conclusive_ evidence consists of German
papers supporting the policy of spreading rumors of rabies to insure that
the troops shoot any dogs on sight, just in case any carry such explosives.



ObUL: also in WW2, the US investigated training pigeons to steer anti-aircraft
missiles with a four section window and four buttons to peck at.  Just
put a training target in the window and feed 'em when they peck the
correct button.

	Bob "and B.F. Skinner *personally* trained the pigeons" O'Bob
From: pdm@ucrmath.ucr.edu (paul moore)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CD Legends
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:52:24 GMT
Organization: technology>>works

In article <1993Jan4.184215.17250@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.185939.18874@husc3.harvard.edu> wichers@husc4.harvard.edu (JJJJJust JJJJJohn) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec25.122232.21686@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>The other, the new Nine Inch Nails album, has just six tracks listed on
>>>the cover, but continues to play through empty tracks 7 through 97 before
>>>finishing with an additional two songs on tracks 98 and 99.
>>Actually, it's not the new one ('Fixed'), but the one before that, 'Broken'.
>>It has the same gap on the tape, which is even more annoying than on the CD.
>Well I must have a mutant copy of 'Broken' then because mine doesn't do
>this.  What I *do* have is an approximately 26 minute CD with six tracks
>that definitely stops after track six and a little 3 inch CD in a seperate
>sleeve with 15 minutes or so worth of two extra tracks with no titles
>given.
>
>Did they do different pressings or something?

   Does this really belong here?   Anyhow.....The first 250,000
 copies of the Broken EP have the 3 inch cd with two tracks, all
 copies pressed after have tracks 1-6 the same as the first, 
 tracks 7 through 97 as 3 second silent tracks, and tracks 98 and
 99 corresponding to the two tracks on the 3 inch cd.

 ObUl:  My girlfriend recited the "kid-napped at Disneyland, hair
 cut and dyed, clothes changed, parents notice shoes" and was very
 pissed that I finished the story before her.  Even more pissed 
 when I showed her the references in Brunvand.  We live four miles 
 north of Disneyland so she was positive that it had really happened.
 (does proximity to an UL make it more true?)

paul/tw
-- 
pdm@ucrmath.ucr.edu         technology>>works          ...ucsd!ucrmath!pdm
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: The Kingdom of Ideas
Originator: kjenks@gothamcity
Keywords: Memes
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:25:40 GMT

In article <2JAN199315135784@utkvx3.utk.edu> canevit@utkvx3.utk.edu (Canevit, Craig Eugene) writes:
[...]
>Bibliography of Memetics---
>	Dawkins, Richard. _The Selfish Gene_. New York: Oxford U P, 
>		1976.
>			The work from which memes get their name.
>	VIRUS 23, issue $ [sic] available for $7 from
>			Virus 23
>			box 46
>			Red Deer, Alberta
>			Canada T4N 5E7
>				includes a lexicon, and (I think) a
>				brief bib. the first place I ever
>				heard of memetics...
>	Hofstadter, Douglas. _Metamagical Themas_ Sorry to all you
>		fans if I misspelled anything here. I don't have this,
>		but it mentions or discusses memes at least in passing.
>		Anybody have better info here?
>anyway, if anybody's interested, I hope this helps. I hope others out
>there will contribute to the list as well...
>--Craig E. Canevit

Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact magazine, from Davis Publishing,
had an article on memetics a couple of years back.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368

     "NASA turns dreams into realities and makes science fiction
      into fact" -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: renault@CAM.ORG (Pierre Renault)
Subject: Re: Norman Travels??
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:59:16 GMT
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ring in the New Year with Some FAQs
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:52:03 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <28203@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) 
writes:
> Peter van der Linden (_The Official Handbook of Practical Jokes_ Signet, 
>    ISBN 0-451-15873-3, 1989 and _The Second Official Handbook of Practical 
>    Jokes_, 1991, Signet, ISBN 0-451-16924-7). Do you want to get the scoop 
>    on practical jokes that actually have some real world validity rather 
>    than those by prepubescent college kids on bad banana peels?  Try 
>    checking these two bricks^H^H^H^H^H^H books out.

From the library, of course.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.sport.baseball
From: zurawski@cbnewse.cb.att.com (lawrence.w.zurawski)
Subject: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:46:12 GMT
Followup-To: .
Summary: Here's what I heard

I read this somewhere a long time ago; don't remember the source:
The Baby Ruth bar was named after the president's daughter.  Later,
someone had the idea of producing a Babe Ruth candy bar, but the idea
was shot down because the similar names would be too confusing.
Again, I don't remember where I read this.

Larry Zurawski
zurawski@ihlpm.att.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jkshapir@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Kivi Shapiro)
Subject: Re: Jesus' name (was Re: Late breaking potential UL!)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:29:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.180935.16231@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:

>OB fact: The correct way to spell the possessive of a name in English which
>ends in an "s" is to append an apostrophe-s, UNLESS the namee is allegedly a
>god, in which case you just append an apostrophe.  Names I know of in this
>category are Jesus and Zeus.  I personally would still pronounce the word
>"Jesus'" as "jesuses".

Temporarily assuming something which is most likely false, namely that you are
speaking in seriousness, I would point out that this is not true of such
gods as Athena, Aphrodite, or Pluto.  The reason the ones named above
take only an apostrophe is because they end in an "s" sound, thus
following a different rule.  See the recent post on this subject in
alt.usage.english.
-- 
- Kivi                    jkshapiro@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
                          This message is in the public domain.
HI! I'm a signature virus. Copy me into yours and join the fun!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bugger it
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:08:28 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1993Jan11.144515.23044@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> reid@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Robert Reid) writes:
>linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>
>>Thirdly I was at graduate school with a man who was cheating the telephone
>>system by making collect calls to different public phone boxes in England.
>
>I must have missed something. How does calling public phone boxes in
>England collect get you anywhere?

This requires three important factors to be worthwhile.

1) The phone numbers of public phone boxes in England
2) Someone in England who you want to talk to and who in turn wants to talk 
   to you.
3) The knowledge of the time and place they will be standing by the phone
   box awaiting your call.

Of course if you assumethat there is no value in calling someone outside 
Texas - even if the other phone company is paying - then it won't get you
very much.


ObUL: If you hear an unattended public phone ringing it is either 
a) A spy/cocaine dealer/kidnapper trying to make an untraceable call.
b) A wrong number.

ObUL1: A wrong number is never engaged.

Derek "Theres no one called E.T. here you must have the wrong number" Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
 _______
 _______} This is a Usenet condom<tm>.  Roll the condom over the .signature 
	  file before posting to protect yourself from .sig retro-virii
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 21:19:40 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

Dave Budd writes:

>Mornington Crescent

But can you remember the rules?

Derek "I'm sorry I haven't a clue.  Bring back radio comedy!" Tearne




-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
 _______
 _______} This is a Usenet condom<tm>.  Roll the condom over the .signature 
	  file before posting to protect yourself from .sig retro-virii
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <zw72rtq@rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:02:01 GMT

kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:
> Some street names that can be found in just about every city in New York:
>
> Fulton
> Erie
> Clinton (furrfu, they didn't even wait for his inauguration)
> Hudson
> Cuomo
  ^^^^^
	Yeah. Sure.
> Mohawk
> Iroquois

ObUL: The most popular street name in USA is 'third'.

ObUL2: Fulton did not invent steamboats,
though he was the first to get rich from them.

Jon "Did Mohawks wear Mohawks?" Papai
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.sport.baseball