From: KELLY@SUVM.SYR.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: A Few Notes on References
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:34:28 EDT

  Since Mr.Mutlu has been re-posting and cross-posting some of my
articles, there has been some confusion among those who do not read
SCT very carefully. Although I am not in the habit of wasting my
time to answer those who don't care to read articles carefully, yet
do not hesitate posting ample commentary and speculation about such
articles and those who post them, I will make an exception in this
instance to clarify a few points:

  (1) [So far] I am the original author of *all* articles that contained
      excerpts from the following references:

     Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and the
     Turkish Republic,' New York University Press, New York (1991).

     Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'Christian Anti Semitism in the
     Ottoman Empire,' Belleten, C. LIV, 68 (1991).

 (2) As I pointed out above, Mr. Mutlu reposted and crossposted many
     of these articles, usually a day or so after I posted them in SCT.
     He did not ask for my permission to do so. (I personally have no
     objection to his or anybody else's reposting of these articles,
     as long as they are posted without modification. I should say that
     I do not agree with his extensive crossposting and reposting, but
     that's his choice. As they say 'Her yigidin bir yogurt yiyisi vardir.')

 (3) The references I included in these articles are given by the author.
     I include these for completeness and to make finding original sources
     easy for those who are interested. For example, Professor Shaw gives
     several references some of which are in Hebrew, French, Greek, etc.
     Although I found and read some of his sources (which are in English),
     I certainly have not read all the references he gives in his book
     and paper. Such an endeavor would propably consume the next twenty
     years of my life!

 (4) Mr. Mutlu (and anybody else) is welcomed to use my articles, as long
     as the contents are not taken out of context. I am not a very good
     typist, hence there may be typos which of course should be corrected
     if detected before such reposting.

     If somebody reposts my articles, that does not mean that I agree with
     that person's views, nor does it follow that that person agrees with
     all of my views. (As far as Mr.Mutlu's articles are concerned, I agree
     with most of the *contents*, but I do not agree with his extensive
     reposting and crossposting. I also do not approve insulting people,
     even though considering the caliber of most of his opponents, I cannot
     help but sympathize with Mr. Mutlu. )

     The above remarks regarding 'extensive crossposting and reposting'
     now seems academic anyway, as I have not seen any articles by Mr. Mutlu
     for a couple of weeks now.


One final note: I had been posting articles to SCT by sending mail to the
following address:

    sct@cs.stanford.edu

For almost three weeks now, I have not been able to send articles because
the mail I send to the above address is returned back with the message
'unknown user soc-culture-turkish.'  Mr. Cosar was kind enough to let me
use another path to post articles. I think it is very democratic and
kind of him to help me in this manner, as I know he would strongly
disagree with many of the articles I had posted in TEL and SCT within
the last couple of years.

I'll be back in a couple of months: You ain't seen nothin yet :-)

Nejat
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