From: alain@elevia.uniforum.qc.ca (W.A.Simon)
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: The Manning-Trudeau Manifesto?
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:07:03 GMT

In <2ACA7498.3D38@telly.on.ca>
evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
tells us about the upcoming event:

> In article <1992Sep23.145443.15941@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
> 	nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>> Of course, we all tend to think that all the "right-minded" people
>> agree with us - and anyone who doesn't agree on vital points is
>> wrong-minded by definition, right?

> I don't know. No matter which way you vote this time around, you'll be
> sharing the side of folks you never wanted to be associated with.

	... which only shows that this referendum is not about
	ideologies, constitutions, native rights, women, the
	Senate or anything else requiring having an opinion on
	an issue.

> If you vote yes, you're taking the side of BM the PM, snake-oil salesman
> extraordinaire. In some ways, to me, this exercise is just his second
> roll of the dice.
> To vote yes is to side with Bob Rae, whose appeal as premier of Ontario
> appears to be following the same trend as Mulroney. That Muroney and
> Rae were architects of the accord is almost reason enough to reject it,
> sight unseen.

	Magnificent Bob, Pinocchio Bob, Muldoon, Red Shirley,
	Slick Clyde, Getty Out, Diane Frantic, Big Blue, the
	Bank that Would and the Bank that Could, and some
	"has been" hockey player who did not use to wear a helmet,
	and a few more...  Would you buy a used limo from any of
	them?

> On the other hand, vote no and you stand cheek by jowl with the looney
> left, the looney right, NAC, Canadian Postal Workers Union, and the
> flag burners on both sides.

	And the Quebec crazies who started it all, including
	the Grand Old Man of Shit Kicking Himself, the Honorouble
	PET the First, Monsieur Canada, Shrugging Potentate, the
	Greatest Show in Town, Fertile Plower of Groupies and
	Royal Pain in the Butt.  And let's not forget the latest
	of the bonified groupies, La Coyne.  Of course, you can
	add three quarters of BC, two thirds of Alberta, 55% of
	Saskatchewan, 48% of Manitoba and half of Ontario.  PEI,
	NB, NFL and NS are split right down the middle, but it's
	about which way is up.

> What a choice. Sigh. All these "celebrity endorsements" have become, to
> me, the most depresing part of the campaign. Which side, in the long
> run, will present me with the most reasons for voting against them?

	That's the way it seems to be shaping out.  My feeling is
	that in the end it doesn't matter.  Whichever way the vote
	goes, this referendum has helped the population at large
	realize that the problem is not the Constitution, but that
	it is the politicians.

	The Rest Of Canada will eventually have to realize that
	Quebec is different enough and negociate a separate deal.
	Women will have to run for election in numbers roughly
	equal to those of the men if they want roughly half of
	the seats.

	But whichever way the vote goes, we are in for a lot more
	negociations.

> More important to me, which way are Mitsou and Erica Ehm voting?

	Mitsou can vote any way she wants as long as she doesn't say.

> Last I heard, I think Erica said she was going to vote for Murphy Brown.

	Politics make strange bedfellows.  Erica who?



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