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From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: US defeat, again?
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:35:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

Amy McNulty writes:

>Gordon.Riddell@prg.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>> and the beach was floodlit by the enemy. 

>Yeah, more likely it was floodlit by the US media.

Same thing.  I wonder how they got away with such a stupid stunt as
floodlighting the landing zone - was everyone so cocksure that there
were no Somalian snipers about?  If I were a soldier on that beach, I
wouldn't have felt bad at all if a few reporters were picked off in
that situation.  Hell, I'd probably shoot them myself.

The media's justification for sticking its penile nose into military
operations is that "the people have a right to know what's going on".
What a load of bullshit when their actions endanger other lives (either
as in this case or by revealing troop movements and locations).  Their
real motive is to sensationalize and get high ratings.  I suppose it
would be pretty sensational to have a soldier's parents get the opportunity
of seeing him blown away, live on NBC, courtesy of NBC.

There's currently a shakeup in the evening news here, with several
"anchorpeople" losing their jobs due to poor ratings.  Heh.  Do people
really watch the 5pm or 11pm news for personalities?  Apparently the
networks think so, because rather than having someone blandly read the
news, as they probably do in Albania, the news is a smiling, giggling
affair where trivia and provinciality gets as much attention as a train wreck.

-Dave
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From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Eyes Are Everywhere
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:19:23 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <Bz3n45.M4K@dcs.ed.ac.uk> pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
~
~You were born at the wrong time in the wrong place, Jeremy.  You could
~have had a good laugh as people were herded into gas chambers at
~Auchwitz.

Story of my life. Shucks.



-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

This message cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
Bloody good value if you ask me.
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:01:09 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

Rachel J. Perkins simpers:
>listen, people....this isn't alt.flame. it might be what alt.peeves is 
>for, but not (in my opinion) alt.angst material...could you please
>edit the header and keep this either angstful, or out of alt.angst.
>
>thanks. it's not as if we don't have enough angst about the bitterness
>and cruelty in this world.

Aww, there's bitterness and cruelty in the world for you, snookums?

Seems like a redundant group to me.  Take a look at alt.whine, they're
another group of people without the balls to make it in the real world;
maybe you can get together with each other and form a support group or
something.

Followups to alt.peeves only.

   don
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves,talk.politics.misc
From: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (General Boycott)
Subject: Re: Media  Wars
Followup-To: alt.peeves,talk.politics.misc
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:06:00 GMT

In article <CINDY.92Dec13143847@solan10.solan.unit.no>, 
cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes...

>>What is MOST Annoying to me is the sorry fact that:
>>
>>(a) the somalians did NOT mine the beach.
>>(b) use the lovely lighting to sniper fire some
>>    of those Kliege Light Toting Targets.
> 
>Actually, last night one of my friends suggested that the _Marines_
>should have mined the beach (and kept a map of the mines, so they
>could get through safely but the camera-toting fools would have gone
>foom).  The rest of us decided this would have been too difficult,
>logistically.  Another suggestion was to "soften up" the beach with
>random bursts of automatic weapons fire.  Yet another person
>recommended launching grenades at the flood lights.
> 
>And i bet some of you thought Norwegians were pacifists.

Ahhhhh.  No, no reason to suspect Norwegians are any different than
the rest of us. You are endearing yourself to the millions (on-line
and off) with recounts of that most primal of human lusts: mayhem.
No need to stop.

(Those feigning disbelief would do well to try explaining the sales
 of horror, gore, and terminator-style action flicks.)

I really enjoy (and must do penance for) the thought of the tv anchorman
there blabbing away in one scene, and the hundreds, perhaps thousands
of permutations leading to a de-headed, still suited body, in the next.
<titter>  

Yesss, "foom" ...lovely word.


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Xref: sparky alt.peeves:18360 alt.angst:4819
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (King Mosher)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:07:20 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments

banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:

>(King Mosher) replies to me, saying:
>>Peeve: Really stupid dickheads like you who think they know it all.

>Look, Chuckles, don't confuse the fact that I know it all with my
>voicing of an opinion.

Voicing an opinion is fine with me, but anyone with the twisted idea
of parental love you have needs to be shot. 

>If some yahoo with a need to demonstrate his semen potency spouts
>off about "when" I have kids, I'll hop up on my little soapbox in a
>second.  I'm not planning on having kids.  If, for some reason, the
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
             wonderful.                    

>spirits of Ortho-Novum 7/7/7 fail, abortion is still legal in this
>country, and barring that, there's only about a jillion people
>interested in a white child of two college educated people.

Hey, perhaps you could make a business of it. I'm sure it's not past
your moral standards. 

>Since my original peeve never made it past the buffer zone you've
>encased your brain in (You probably have kids, don't you?), let me
>be more explicit: CHILDREN ARE NOT A FACTOR IN ALL DECISIONS MADE.
>Life is not prime-time TV, and some really grisly things happen in
>the world.  I want to be a part of that.

For me, and this is _my_ opinion, Christmas is for the children, the
religions and the retail outlet stores. hell, _I_ don't need christmas
and would be better off without it.

>So stuff your muling little cretin in a Cone of Silence that they
>will later resent you for, but don't expect the world to genuflect
>at your whim.

>Thank you, and good night.

And I'll see you in the mosh pit!
--
              Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:26:27 GMT

In article <litm9fINN3hd@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>(King Mushmouth) writes:

>
>>And I'll see you in the mosh pit!
>
>Right.  Whatever that means.
>

Well, drew, at hard-core shows a mess of people with too much pent-up 
sexual energy stand near the stage & bang into each other.  This is called
a mosh pit.

Sort of like bumper cars w/o the cars.

Why Mush-Mush wants to get into the pit with someone who's 242 lbs. before
cooking is beyond me - I can only put this down to masochistic tendencies.

Personally I miss the good old-fashioned slam-dance ring.  Slam-dancing had
grace and style - there was a *technique* goddam it!  And the momentum you
got from swinging your ams and legs led to greater power behind your kicks
and slugs.

The mosh pit is just a mess!  Banging into people randomly - so unaesthetic.

Peeve:  These kids nowadays, and the way they dance.  I tell ya.

Jenny "Still listening to my old Alternative Tentacles albums and fondly
reminiscing" Gutbezahl
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ)
Subject: Re: Snow Covered Organs
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:08:45 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <LARRY.92Dec15122021@peak.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.nmsu.edu writes:

> Just a quick anti-peeve: A snow cover on our beautiful Organ mountains.
> Gorgeous! 
> 
> Peeve: Double-entendres in Subject: lines.
> 

Brings to mind poetic images of "virgin snow."

Or something like that.

A variation on frigidity, perhaps?

:]

-Brad

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Illuminatus Primus 1:  If all are one, all violence is masochism.
Illuminatus Primus 2:  If all are one, all sex is masturbation.

bpheintz@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
Your mother's an astronaut.
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Shit-for-brains grad students
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:45:49 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <1992Dec17.143614.12510@parc.xerox.com> dourish@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Paul Dourish) writes:
:I just got *another* phone call. I've been getting a lot of these
:lately. They generally begin, "Hello, I got your name from [someone
:I've never heard of]. I'm doing a PhD in your research area, but I
:don't have a clue, and I get lost trying to find the library. I wonder
:if you could just send me a few pointers to get me started. Perhaps
:you'd like to write the literature review section of my thesis as
:well, or maybe the whole thing if you're not doing much this
:afternoon."



Tell them what your fees are.

That will shut them up.

Peeve: Being an expert.

!Peeve: Being an expert.

ER
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Heard of any plans for Malcolm XI?
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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: MalcolmX
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:48:07 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <92Dec15.220303.23155@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca
(Charles Parr) writes:
>If you beleive that movie is truth, you are a sad and
>deluded fool. It's propaganda. It may be propaganda
>you agree with, but it's still a biased viewpoint,
>intended to revise history.

Who was it who attempted to revise history?  Which aspects of history?

>Try watching a few of the taped interviews with MalcolmX
>...A big city library ought to be able to help you find them.
>A few transcriptions of his speeches, and you'll begin to 
>see more of the truth.

The movie shows that the man was a racist jerk for a large chunk of his
life.  Partly it was due to his intelligence, which was frustrated by the
way that blacks were treated back then (re:  the scene where he tells
his high school teacher that he wants to be a lawyer and the teacher says
that, being black, malcolm would be better off adopting a menial career).
But it does clearly show that, for most of his life, he thought that all
whites were evil.  

For about the last year of his life, he lived out the lesson he learned
when visiting Mecca:  that some whites are god as well, prejudging a
man based on his skin color is idiotic.

>Not the whole truth of course, I don't think there *is*
>whole truth in these matters.

The whole truth is the whole of his story.  A lot of his story was
bad, a lot of it was good.  In the end, he showed the ability to
admit that he had been wrong previously and he had the intelligence
to figure it out in the first place.

     don
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: I am seriously pissed off!
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:17:14 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer) writes:

>I am a night person.  I do not enjoy mornings, and can
>quite easily disable all three alarm clocks and never notice. 

Aha! So it's you who's been disabling mine.

> slept through my final exam, and
>am now thoroughly annoyed at both myself and the world in general.
>Personally, I am inclined to blame Mike Holmes, simply because he seems
>to be the person to blame for these types of annoyances.

Christ yeah! That bastard is responsible for all my problems too!

>< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >

FoFP
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ)
Subject: Professorial Peeve
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:15:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

*** WARNING:  GEEK PEEVE FOLLOWS ***

This semester I took a class, known here at UMass as Physics 421, in
Classical Mechanics.

Through the early part of any Physics major's career, the Newtonian
formulation of classical mechanical problems is used.  The whole point
of taking a CM course at the upper-undergrad level is to learn the
Lagrangian formulation of CM phenomena.  My dumbfuck prof didn't
even introduce the Lagrangian until three weeks from the end of the course,
and in 45 minutes I'm taking a whole fucking final exam on it.

Peeve:  Doing a whole semester's work the hard way, then being tested on
the easy way.

ObPeeve:  People who are great researchers and terrible teachers being
required to waste valuable research time teaching me the wrong shit, and
even that being done inadequately.

!Peeve:  I graduate in the spring, never to see her again.

-Brad

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Illuminatus Primus 1:  If all are one, all violence is masochism.
Illuminatus Primus 2:  If all are one, all sex is masturbation.

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Your mother's an astronaut.
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From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:37:26 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <litm9fINN3hd@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>(King Mushmouth) writes:

drew and chuck, shut up about this already, or get the hell out of alt.angst.
again, i'm not 'moderator', but this seems to have become a private argument,
and should be taken to email, or if the peeve types want you, to there.

bah.
--
		    -just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      coed naked internet grep! always keep your link up!
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Curse Of the Stuttering Pig
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:09:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <lisvntINN30t@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
|
|Excerpted from yesterday's Chronicle:
|
>"Burbank (AP)  The Walt Disney Co. has pulled an ad for a children's
|bath soap that features Piglet, a stuttering character from "Winnie
|the Pooh," after complaints from an advocacy group for stutterers.
|
|"Part of the text for the print ad for Johnson and Johnson's Piglet's
|Liquid Bath read: 'Squeaky Clean and Gentle Too, P-P-P-Piglet Makes
|Bathtime Fun For You.'"

I was once up in South Lake Tahoe and the marquee at Harvey's Casino 
displayed that M-M-M-M-e-l Tillis was appearing.
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Eyes Are Everywhere
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:03:15 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <29518@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:

>TrulyUniversalPeeve: Going to the doctors - by the time you've gotten
>around to finding a time to go to the doctor,  whatever was wrong with
>you has cleared up.

Except pregnancy.  That hangs around for a wee bit longer than the
common cold.  But I guess you know that only too well.

Babs
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bleeding heart liberals
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:37:44 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec13.233734.27462@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>
|Bill's got nothing to be offended about.  At least he doesn't have a
|toilet paper named for him, er, "Scott".

It could be worse.

-John


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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.culture.electric-midget
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Learn To spell Before You POST Your Ignoran
Followup-To: alt.stupidity,alt.culture.electric-midget
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:01:28 GMT

<In article <143422@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> 528010@llnl.gov (Mark Levinson) writes:
<Help,

WEE KAN HELP U...JusT TRUST MEEEEE.


<I have been using Emacs for about 1.5 years now and I think it is the coolest software in
   existence.

dO U POSTE 2 ALT.EMACS.RELIGION?? mEbE u shUUD.


<Lately I have been logging into my Sun WS from home and using emacs in character
   mode. 


Dont' WAIST Ur tyME WITH THaT, bUY UN eLeCtRiC mIJJET, THEY ARE MORE
FUN!!!!!!!!


<    Mark Levinson                               Internet:    markl@llnl.gov
<    Lawrence Livermore National Lab             PacBell Net: (510) 422-1794

 
oHJHHHHH! dO YOU WURK NeAR Enny U-RAniuMM? eYE THEEENK U NEED
2 OR 3 OR MoRE ElEcTrIc mIJJETS!


(ps. eYE AM NOT A MIJJET, EyE AM A huMAN KaLLED nOSY AND My 
 sPell cHEKER IS broKEN!)


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From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Jean-Claude Twanger)
Subject: Re: What's in a name (was Re: Milquetoast
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:42:17 GMT
Organization: Societee' du Acronymmes Reversa'l

Pete Young writes:

>FrenchPeeve: In France, you are presented with an approved list of names 
>when you register the birth of your sprog. If the you want isn't on
>the list, tough! You have to chose one that is.

So, did "Adolf" and "Benito" make the list?  This list seems like such a
French thing to do.  They probably have an organ of government [heh] whose
only purpose is to maintain the purity of France.  I wonder who decides
what goes on the list and what the procedure is for adding new names.  Perhaps
if an unapproved name is used by enough people informally, they'll eventually
add it.

"Bonjour, I am your maid, Yvette, but you may call me Shaka Zulu"

-Dave
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: Bleeding heart liberals
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 23:37:34 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038) writes: 
| From article <1992Dec12.194033.20585@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, by bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mister Bill):
| > 
| > So just patch your hearts up before they bleed all over that one.  Ponce
| > de Leon Park, where the Crackers used to play, is now a strip mall.  But
| > if you go there, keep your clothes on, okay?
| 
| So Bill, are you offended by the Buffalo Bills?  I would think that
| cartoon-like mascot they parade around the stadium would be an insult
| to any upstanding citizen such as yourself.  After all, why should *you* 
| have to suffer because of the name your parents gave you?  I think a
| boycott is in order ;-)
| 
| Scott 

Bill's got nothing to be offended about.  At least he doesn't have a
toilet paper named for him, er, "Scott".

ObFreeClue: Smileys are banned in alt.peeves.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
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|"Most dogs are nicer than most people."           |
|                                   --Andy Rooney  |
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From: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Claudio.Terrorist)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Haunted
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:10:42 GMT
Reply-To: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Claudio.Terrorist)
Organization: The Tea Party Of The Vicar


As if the christmas season wasn't bad enough as it is, I've been
recently haunted by a christmas card.

It started last week, when I received this envelope which is addressed
to somebody else at a different address. "The postman made a mistake",
I thought, "How unusual". So I just dropped it in a posting box and
forgot about it.

Next morning, the same letter was delivered again to me. I wrote on
the envelope:

	Please deliver this letter to the address stated
	on the envelope, not to me.

and left it outside of the door for the postman to see. He must have
collected it later, as the letter had disappeared when I went back home.

Next morning, the same letter was delivered again to me. I wrote on
the envelope:

	Look, this letter IS NOT FOR ME. If you can't read
	an address, consider looking for another job.

and left it outside of the door for the postman to see. He must have
collected it later, as the letter had disappeared when I went back home.

Next morning, the same letter was delivered again to me. The postman
had added:

	I have no idea where to deliver this letter. I'm afraid
	you'll have to receive it.

I went to the post office, holding an ObBomb in one hand and the letter
in the other hand. "If this letter comes back to me you'll regret it"

They took the letter. They promised that it wouldn't come back. I
left the post office, as I had to go somewhere else.

Next morning, the same letter was delivered again to me.

As the post office is now a pile of ashes, I have no place to take
the letter to. It looks like a christmas card. Anybody wants it?

 
C.T.
From: t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Beatles Peeve
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:57:19 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Not Al Crawford (Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: time to the music? Or maybe a piece of animatronics - a giant, realistic
: John Lennon Muppet. Frank Oz could do the voice. Or maybe they could just

I thought Frank Oz was dead.
--
Sven Wallman, S:t Larsg. 5, 753 11 Uppsala, Sweden, +46 1812 9237
"I think, therefore I'm right."-Hugo Rune