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From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: Re: Bear's story (or Can't Children be Cruel)
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:20:44 GMT

I'd bet most of us here have stories from our growing up years of
being tormented by other kids for being different. It's funny how we
often talk about children's innocence and honesty, but they can also
be very intolerant and cruel.

I also was teased mercilessly until I left for college. Why is it the
thing that we are respected for as adults, our intelligence, and hard
work, is the thing we are teased for as children?

Anyway, when I was choosing a college to attend, I wanted to go
somewhere where no one I knew was going. This way I could start out
fresh, without anyone knowing those awful cruel nicknames or anything.
I developed confidence and even some athletic ability and
coordination. (And without my evil :) sister around, I even started to
think of myself as pretty)

There is something about getting away to school. I even went against 
the norm and instead of gaining 10 lbs, I lost weight. I became
very active in clubs and sports. And nobody teased me for being
smart. In fact, I started to feel more average around most of my 
classmates and may have occassionally joked about the smart ones 
there. 

Three years ago I attended my 10 year high school reunion. I had such
mixed feelings about going. I was no longer that chubby, shy, smart
girl. I was that thin, strong (I was doing well bike racing)
confident, smart, employed woman! I had a great job, nice house,
attractive fiance, and like most others there, I wanted my former
tormentors to know it. Well, I didn't go around bragging. I just had a
good time hanging out with my old gang of friends, talking and
dancing, and of course gossiping about how fat, bald and ugly some of
the formerly popular people had become. (Although many of them still
looked good)

I've done a pretty good job of forgetting the pains of growing up, 
although I think I have learned a great deal along the way, but I 
haven't forgotten enough that I'd ever want to go through it again.

So how about a big group hug
boo ( a nickname I don't mind! )



-- 
Pamela Blalock                                     pamela@keps.kodak.com
Kodak Electronic Printing Systems, Inc             4 down, 8 to go!
164 Lexington Road, Billerica, MA 01821-3984       Darn, we got in!
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Stuff and life.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:51:54 GMT

In <1992Apr16.013838.22511@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer) writes:


>       John walks in to the bar, looking very weary.  Mike hands him
>a southern comfort with a look to say that it BETTER be a nightcap.
> 
>      John grins in a 'who needs sleep' manner, and walks to a table.
> 
>      He grabs some people in tense hugs, people he hasn't seen
>in too long. . . Susan and Bill and Kitten and Anita (If she still
>exists) and others, but since he will forget some, he doesn't try to 
>name the otherse.  (Don't you hate being left off of lists? I used to.
>I got different)

"hug back....you sweetie," kitten looks worried .... john looks soooo
tired.... maybe a backrub?

> 
>     He walks into the danger room for a few minutes of incredible but 
>controlled violence.  He walks out.  He drains the southern comfort,
>and throws it into the fireplace.
> 
>      TO LOVE!   He shouts, looks abut to smile and swear. . . 
> 

[   ]

>      "And he's scared to death, because he's NEVER had a relationshiop
>that ended with him NOT getting torn up emotionally, and he doesn't know
>what's going to happen when this one gets blown to pieces.
> 
>      "And the worse thing is, he can really see a future with Paula. . .
>because this is the first woman he's ever dealt with on an equal footing."
> 
>      Raphael shrugs.  "I don't know what to do.  I might be able to help
>him fall out of love, but . . . that means throwing away the onlychance
>at happiness he is oging to see in a long while.  I might be able to 
>help him fall IN love. . . but that could drive him around the bend, if she
>doesn't reciprocate."
> 

>     "I guess I"ll juststick around and hope for the best. . . like he's doing."


"i don't know what to say except...i am hoping too, for you....you
deserve it."


--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Stevie Ray
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:02:05 GMT

In <11893@tamsun.tamu.edu> scm3775@tamsun.tamu.edu (Sean Malloy) writes:

>>   NickD. walks up to the chalk-line,
>>
>>    "To Stevie Ray Vaughn ! A great person and guitar player!
>>    I'll miss him !"

>CD looks up again at the mention of the name.  "This summer will mark
>the passing of the second year without him.  I will most likely find
>a nearby bar and drink a silent toast to the memory of one of Austin's 
>Favorite Sons...  it's a shame that I only learned to appreciate him after
>his passing."

>He looks down into his now empty coffee mug, contemplating.  "But as
>I was saying to Kitten a moment ago, I am encouraged by the emergence
>of an area musician.  Name of Chris Duarte.  Remember the name.  I'll
>bet that you'll be hearing it again."

>Corpus' eyes frost over slightly as he wonders about songs that will
>never be written...

><click.> "Hello?  Radio Free Colorado?  How about some Texas blues..."

>The soft acoustic sounds of "Life By the Drop" begin filling the Place,
>and that distinctive voice begins:

[lyrics deleted for space]  kitten, who is a big fan of the blues...
says, "and there are some really great women who also sing the
blues...i don't have the lyrics handy, cd, but have you ever heard the
etta james cover of alice cooper's only 'only women bleed'? sort of
gives a whole new meaning to the song.

i don't know about where y'all are, but here in central illinois there
as been an amazing resurgence in live music...jazz, blues, and
contemporary and ethnic folk...it's all over the place and reletively
cheap.... in fact weft, 90.1fm just did 2 nights of live acoustic
music of various sorts on the air....from 6pm - 3am friday night and
from 6 - 1:30 saturday night....it was truly amazing...."

kitten curls up by the radio with nickd. and cd to listen to the blues.

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
From: erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Nielsen)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Rhetoric: The End of Morality in Society (?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:32:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.s29khINN3h5
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr8.235933.7319@waikato.ac.nz> rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz writes:
}  "The fair market rent is determined by the average value placed on the
}resource by everyone. That's what the lists do, determine the fair market
}rent. Those who value a resource more highly than average will control
}their share themselves. Those who value it less will take the
}compensation."

AARGH!!!  Sorry.  Your argument is fair enough, but I'm discovering, as I
read it, that I have an even more basic opposition to "fair market rent"
within myself:  I wanna go back to the barter system!!!!

Sigh.  I guess us SCAdian/Faire people are really not the sort of people to
talk to about money.  Up the system; advocate monarchy.


}Robert 'Stumpy' Marsh | Brought to you from the bottom of the world
}rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz  | both topographically and socio-politically.
}+64 7 855 4406        | Whatever happened to Godzone?
}    SnailMail: 95 Fairfield Rd, Hamilton, Aotearoa (New Zealand)


Erik, the BFG
-- 
     "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
			Roy, _Blade Runner_
Erik Nielsen					erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: p65331727@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (The Artful Dodger)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Poets never cease....
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:51:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: violet.6APR199216513537
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <rqhdiINN5fn@agate.berkeley.edu>, erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Nielsen) writes...
>In article <PyNmiB3w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> graydon@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Graydon Saunders) writes:
>>Oak, and Ash, and the Hammer of Thor...
>>To quote Master Blake - your perceptions are being constrained by
>>your metaphysics.
>>
>>If Paul Simon, Mark Knopfler, and Kate Bush (my favourite examples
>>that you're all likely to have heard of) aren't commercially successful
>>at least in part because they are very good poets, I would like
>>your explanation.
> 
>Well, far be it from me to play Devil's Advocate.... Oh, what the hell.  To
>tell you the truth, Kate Bush has an incredible voice which far outshines
>the norm for pop-stars.  If she put out an album consisting entirely of her
>singing just notes instead of words, I would still buy it.
> 
>Mark Knopfler has a wonderful gift for the home-y quality of folk without
>the anachronistic turn-off folk carries.  Some of my favorite stuff of his
>is primarily instrumental.  The words are secondary to the feeling evoked by
>the music itself.

	Arty smiles and quotes Douglas Adams.  "Mark Knopfler can make 
a fender stratocaster howl like a group of angels out for a beer on 
saturday night."
	"I hope I got that right - It's been several years since
I read "So long And Thanks For All the Fish"

> 
>Paul Simon has a knack for bringing old styles out of the cultural closet
>and into the mainstream limelight.  His success stems primarily from his
>skill and versatility as a musician more than as a lyricist.

	"I enjoy the video for "You can call me Al - the one with 
Chevy Chase lip syncing!"

> 
>>Poetry is saying more than the words say, and it is unlikely to
>>depart from the realm of knowledge anytime soon.
> 
>Fair enough.  However, I think that poetry is bound to find its own unique
>twists and turns in the meantime.  One example of evolving poetry is the
>advent of (dare I say it?) rap music.  Not my personal favorite, but some of
>it is poetry.

	Arty cringes.  "In a sort of twisted way, I guess...."

The Artful Dodger P65331727@CCIT.Arizona.Edu
"Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went arround giving people advice.
They killed him."
	-Anonymous history student
From: test@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Seattle in August?
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:29:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <1992Apr3.201612.694@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Alfvaen) writes:
>
>"Oh, and by the way--does anyone have any recommendations for things to  
>see in the western Montana/northern Idaho/Washington area?"
>
For Washington, drive through the Olymic Peninsula and its northern
rainforest. Most people think of rainforests as being tropical, but this
is a *northern* rainforest.  Decidedly untropical, but still beautiful.

The Seattle Space Needle is always fun.

I found myself. See? I'm right here!

Carole Parker
  e-mail: falk@sun.com with a Subject line: Mail for Carole
From: seawasp+@pitt.edu (Ryk E Spoor)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Simulation program NEEDED -- please help...
Summary: I really, really need this thing...
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:12:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	The Sea Wasp rematerializes, holding a familiar piece of paper.

	"Apologies for those who have seen this before, but the prior
postings of this request -- on this and other boards -- have gotten
only ONE even partly useful response (thanx Bear!) and I'm hoping that
there is another, easier solution to my problem than writing the thing
myself [as a programmer, my skills went out in 1980 or so]. Thanks and
respond if you can!"

                                 Sea Wasp
                                   /^\
                                   ;;;



	I'm hoping there are a few wizards out there who can help me 
with the following problem.

	I need a program which will simulate, NUMBER-wise (the displays
will be driven by the numbers -- display program already exists) the
operation of a simplistic steam plant: i.e., boiler with water, steam to 
turbine, turbine spinning, generating power from the spin, condensing
the water, and returning the water to the boiler for another cycle.

	The inputs which are to be able to be adjusted by the user
(possibly by running this program as a subprogram) are :
	1) Fuel flow to boiler
	2) Water to boiler from condenser -- obviously with controls to prevent
overfilling boiler or allowing water to come from condenser when there
is none
	3) A makeup pump (for possible lost water), only on/off in nature.
I'd like, however, to be able to possibly modify the amount of water that
the makeup pump delivers when on, not while running the program but to
be able to set it at different levels.

	The outputs are to be the boiler water level and the speed of
the turbine.

	Concealed inputs (ones that the USER won't control, but which
will be passed to the simulator from the external program) will be
the load on the generator and "trip" inputs -- booleans which will trigger
a FAILURE in some part of the system, either a boiler leak, a steam leak,
or a condenser leak.

	The program is to be run on a Sun SPARCstation. The other programs
it is to work with are written in C, so obviously it's got to be compatible
with the other programs.

	One thing it does NOT have to do is be mathematically/physically
perfect. It DOES have to be good enough so that an engineer could watch
the behavior of the system and say "close enough", but it doesn't have
to do thermodynamic modeling of a steamplant cycle if simpler mathematics
will do.

	I'm SURE some such programs exist -- it's a relatively elementary
problem in engineering; I'm looking for a good source program, one that
has been tested (hopefully) and I can get working quickly.


			Thanks,

					Ryk E. Spoor
				        SEAWASP@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
				     or seawasp@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: All mind and no heart?
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:26:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.y5zj-l=.aahz
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <65428@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>
>Firecat:
>
>I think that the key to making a change of this nature is not to
>experience a wound (the wound only makes you realize that there is a
>problem), but to get help from someone or something. It doesn't have
>to be a therapist or a religion. It does have to be someone or something
>steady in your life, that will be there as you work through your stuff,
>that will be patient during the times you don't feel like working through
>your stuff. Perhaps it can be done on one's own but it is a lot easier,
>IMO, to do it with help, with feedback from some relatively objective
>source.

In my case, it was not "a change", it was a long series of changes, with
many milestones along the way -- and it's not completely over yet.  At
each stage, there was someone, or several someones, who "helped" me.
As you might guess from the "help", in several cases, the person was
actually (though not necessarily with malice) attempting to do me harm.
Still, I learned and grew.

The only steady thing in my life has been me, over the long term, and
though the support of others has helped immensely, I believe that the
source of the changes must be oneself.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups?
From: JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET (JIM PIERCE)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: RE: Dr. Asimov
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:51:52 GMT


   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
inews: Article rejected: daemon included more text than new text

Subject:   Re: Dr. Asimov


>I just hope Mike has insurance for his roof."

[ much deleted so ucbvax will let this thru...]

   "I agree with you." NickD.

>FVII gave him a chance to rectify gaucheries (no offense intended to lefties)

   "No offense taken, " a left-handed NickD.

>StM continues, "Asimov is the only person I can think of whose death would be
>so troubling as to make Randi speculate in public on the possibility of an
>afterlife.  I've got a theory now about that "temple" we found on Nomanissan
>Island.  I don't think it was a temple.  I think it was a mausoleum.  We had
>trouble reading the inscriptions because they were made with thiotimoline.  I
>think we ought to mount another expedition to that site, if we can round up an
>appropriate party.  We'll need at leas:
>1)  A science fiction fan (we should have no trouble with this);
>2)  A chemist;
>3)  An historian;
>4)  An English Lit type;
>5)  A biblical scholar
>6)  Several generalists (I can help out here, but can't hope to match
>    the breadth of Asimov's interests).

         "well, I probably wont be able to help much, but I am 'somewhat' a
     generalist. With 210 semester hours of computers, anthropology, art,
     theatrical design, history { also a hobby }, sci-fi { over 500 read }
     chemistry, physics, calculas { although I've forgotten most of it. },
     and alot of other things. My mind exists, just sometimes its like a
     metal seive. I'll do what I can StM." NickD.

* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Applied Computer Science
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "Women are People, *not* property." me
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: oops Re: steel bars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:45:30 GMT

In <1992Apr13.005041.5331@cs.tulane.edu> pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:

>|> 
>|> "THAT'S NOT FUNNY" splutters kitten, who is Real Life (tm) will answer
>|> to the name Barbara Ann and who has been suffering from variations of
>|> this song for YEARS....:)
>|> --

>      "oops. Sorry kitten, how about a hug ?"

>      >HUG<

"hugs are always welcome....and you do a pretty good beach boys imitation....

:) ."
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
From: hgm@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Apologies
Date: 17 Apr 92 22:01:21 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Apologies, profuse and profound for my last post which apart from being very
long anyway I screwed up mightily so that it was doubled up.

Helen Marsh

From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:16:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Rhetoric: Soap box
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk (Adrian Waterworth)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Martyr's Little Problem...
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:27:27 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

Rapidly returning to the picnic, Martyr notices the mammoth Narnia
posting and realises to his horror that he had misunderstood
Didi-Sprite's instructions, thereby posting his contribution to the
whole occasion far too early and on his own. (Rather than waiting to
add his pitiful ramblings to the large collection of much better work
which was being prepared elsewhere.)

"Oh No!! How could I have been so stupid? I should have realised that
it was supposed to be a big joint posting rather than a whole horde of
individual ones!!"

"_And_ I posted mine too early!!"

"I suppose you could call it...Premature Congratulation...?"

"How embarrassing!!!!" ;-)

			(The Blushing) Martyr.

		\----------------------------------------/
		 |  Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk	|
		/ ---------------------------------------\
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From: tjlee@iastate.edu (The Lamplighter)
Subject: Re: A toast...
Originator: tjlee@pv740b.vincent.iastate.edu
Organization: Seven Wishes Lamp Co.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 04:21:54 GMT

Kateri/Mary Anne writes:

>Kateri moves up to the chalk line, apple juice in hand, muttering..."I should
>have done this a long time ago..."

>"Many of you have met my boyfriend, Paul in RL...he goes by snark here.  I
>suddenly realized that I've never told you all what a marvelous person he is -
>and I don't tell him often enough either."

>"This toast is to Paul, and to love."

	(Cutting this off anywhere hurts to do!)  This is so beautiful
that the Lamplighter practically glows with joy.  Finding his recorder
somewhere in his cloak, he softly plays, for them, the tune that
Kateri's poem just inspired.  The melody is repeated, but begins each
time on a higher note, and it seems to have no end except when the
player runs out of breath.

	Then he goes outside to look for Maxwell, who glows with joy so
much better than he.

-----------------------<| "Often the test of courage is not to die
  <=|- Tom Lee -|=>   -<|  but to live."
  tjlee@iastate.edu   -<|  -- Conte Vittorio Alfieri
-----------------------<|
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Alfvaen)
Subject: Re: A return, and a good-bye....
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:27:22 GMT

Barbara Trumpinski writes
> kitten waves to legion...."welcome back...i will eventually come to
> holomuck....one of these days....i promise, you guys...really."

Alfvaen grins.  "You'd better, kitten...you're going to feel left out if  
you don't.  And how about Didi?  It wouldn't be quite right unless we can  
get Didi there too..."
--

---Alfvaen(and no, this isn't my real name!)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
If you stand on your head, you will get footprints in your hair.
Current Album--X:Ain't Love Grand
 "There's a big, ugly city out there."
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