From: jeb3@meaddata.com (Jennifer Bing)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Who cares what whites think about racism ?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 22:12:18 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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In article <BP95VB1w163w@peewee>, peewee@infoserv.com (Philip Stromer) writes:
|> 	>Dowdy Jackson writes:
|> 	>as AfAms, why do we care what white people think about racism 
|> 	>in America ? 
|> 	
|> Because you want to set a good example for whites, perhaps?  If you go        
|> around saying "who cares what whites think about racism," you're simply
|> providing an excuse for some white person to reverse the situation, and
|> say, "who cares what blacks think about racism."  That's why.

It is obvious in this newsgroup that whites don't care what blacks think about
racism anyway. What I keep hearing is there is no real racism anymore. That is 
in the imagination of Ronald Reagan and the many others like him.

|> 
|> 	>We as AfAms know perfectly well what the condition of race 
|> 	>relations are.  
|> 	
|> You don't speak for any black person other than yourself.  For you to        
|> imply that you carry some sort of proxy is disingenuous.  Okay, I'm
|> calling your bluff:  Who else do you speak for?

Philip you need to reread his statement. He can say "AfAms know perfectly
well what the condition of race relations are". We all know what they are.
He didn't say what we know, just that we know.

|> 
|> 	>Whites don't live in our world so they don't understand what we 
|> 	>have do deal with on a daily basis. 
|> 	
|> We, we, we.  You speak only for Dowdy Jackson.
|> 
|> What a load of horse manure.  Many typical blacks talk to whites all the        
<sarcasm> Define typical. How many blacks do you know that have shared their
trials with you? <sarcasm off>

|> time, and recount their trials and tribulations with these whites.  You
|> don't need to be black to understand racism, just like you don't need
|> to be a drug addict to understand the problems surrounding drug addiction.

Experience is the best teacher. Without it your understanding is very slim.
You don't have any earthly idea what it is like to be
black in this country. The indians have a saying that goes something like:
"You don't know a man until you have walked a mile in his mocasins". Well
unitl you are born black and live in this country as a black you will never
understand what racism does to blacks. 
|> 
|> 	>There has been TV show after TV show which clearly shows that 
|> 	>whites are indeed treated far better than AfAms 
|> 	
|> The NBA on NBC isn't one of them, I guess.  Stop whining and make some        
|> sort of suggestion for improvement, for chrissake.
|>

If I or Dowdy Jackson, or any other person could wave a magic wand an cause
everyone in the world to be non-racist I think they would if they were on
the receiving end of racism. I don't have any control 
over how you or anybody else views blacks. As for how you treat me, I don't
control that either. I only control my actions.

But you want a suggestion. Here's one. Why don't all you racist stop it. It's
not nice.

You think that will work?

|> 
|> 	>Of course many whites say that they understand that racism still 
|> 	>exists but of course they themselves are not racist. 
|> 	
|> Of course many blacks say that whites are racist, even though no white        
|> person in this country ever owned a slave.  

Please tell me that's not your only criteria for being a racist.
|> 
|> --Philip Stromer (peewee@infoserv.com)
|> 

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