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From: rainbow@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Hammond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Truth
Date: 15 Dec 1992 12:18:50 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Dec7.164334.25023@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> boylan@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Steve Boylan) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec5.000321.11566@midway.uchicago.edu>,
>moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne) writes:
>
>> Truth, on the otherhand, is wholly subjective, and inherently
>> unprovable.  You may reach a consensus, as when the majority of people
>> in the US believe in monogamy, and hence bigamy is unconstitutional
>> (see, I'm not completely off-topic yet!), but you can never prove a
>> 'truth'.  
>
>Say, what?  I don't remember anything like that in the U. S. Constitution.
>If I remember right, polygamy was outlawed in most states as a matter of
>course, but Utah had to be coerced by the Federal government into passing
>such a law.
>				- - Steve
>				boylan@ljohub.enet.dec.com
---------------------------------
Isn't it strange. If you follow the artificial teachings of
religions and marry you may only have but one wife. If, on the
other hand you step outside religion as it has been
unconstitutionally legislated and simply have children by and
live with as many women as will have you, there is no law against
that. You can even have husbands too if you want them, as many as
you want, and the law can't do anything about it. Interestingly,
you can still have declared paternity and they can bear your
name, or, in California, children are not even required to have
the same last name as either of their parents, though born of a
known mother of different name and acknowledged in paternity by a
father with yet another name, still the child may have a
different last name or any name the parent chooses! A last name
is not even required!
-S
From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Christmas Hols.
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:28:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
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I am soon to be off on my hols and I would like to wish you all
a very Merry Christmas, and a smashing New Year.

I am going to Holland for New Year, so a big hello to all my Dutch
friends.

See you all in the New Year. Let's make 1993 the best ever.

Guy.

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From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bad Timing
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:09:14 GMT
	<1992Dec11.194132.20789@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu's message of 11 Dec 92 19:41:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.194132.20789@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:

   In article <lihlfsINN8br@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

   >I'm not really sure what you mean here.  I'd guess that this sounds like
   >an unhealthy view of love on her part -- that the passion and intensity
   >is more of an unhealthy, addictive kind of thing than a good thing that
   >can be maintained.  After all, a broken bone is more intense than an
   >orgasm, if intensity is what you're looking for.  That "I gotta have him,
   >gotta have him, I'd do anything to keep him" thing is very intense but
   >it's also pretty stupid.  But I'm not sure that this is the kind of thing
   >your friend meant -- I'm not sure what you were trying to say.

   Thank you, Dawn. You just gave a fairly good description of
   sexual addiction.

Unfortunately, this is a pretty good description of why the "addictive
substance as locus of problem" breaks down.  What Dawn describes is
considered perfectly normal behavior, so long as the passionate person
is young and (preferably) female.  Drinking to excess is considered
perfectly normal behavior so long as you're male and doing it at night
on an expense account in Japan.  Shopaholics are doing a perfectly
normal part of their day to day life, as are workaholics.

(We have to make some allowance for the things that product a real
physical change that is addicting, like opiates.  Craving for morphine
or heroin is a real physical thing, that can be demonstrated to have a
physiological basis, and is shared with other organisms.  But even then,
people who become addicted to something like this through medical
treatment often have no big problem breaking the craving, nothing like
the long term problems others have.)

The problem isn't the sex, or the alcohol, or the shopping -- it's some
kind of problem with how the addict *deals* with these things.


--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Unlurking Alert
Keywords: Danger, danger %>
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:49:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Novell Inc., Austin, TX.

In article <lihn5vINN90c@news.bbn.com> pdsmith@bbn.com (Peter D. Smith) writes:
>You mean that *none* of your net.friends has ever asked you out?
>Shame on all of us!
>
>
>					Peter
>					"Likes fried lunch meat"

Once my plight became known to the net.knights my ratio of requests for
dates numbered as the stars in the heavens.  Alas, my mighty steed is
unable to transport me past the boundries of Austin so I shall have to
think of what could have been.

M'Linda
************************************************
*           - Lonestar -                       *
*Internet: mlinda@novell.COM                   *
*UUCP: {ames,sun,apple,amdahl}!novell!mlinda   *
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Voices (was Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?)
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:54:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <thurlow.724365677@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
 
|Next (and this is harder), you have to have work your mouth and throat
|so that the air moves best at your lips and teeth rather than farther
|back in your throat.  This is hard for me to tell you how to do without
|standing in front of you and demonstrating.  It's neat, though; I can
|make my teeth buzz when I sing :-)

Oh, singing.  For awhile there I thought you were talking about blowjobs.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker)
Subject: Re: Vasectomies (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract)
Organization:  Boogie Rats on Speed
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:53:04 GMT

bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <255@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>>
>>Oh Don, how could you or any man even consider getting a vasectomy?
>>As a man, I feel that the spermal excrement is at the essence of
>>my experience as a man.  Most of the women I used to date really
>>enjoyed the excitement of seeing me spray my "love juices" over their
>>you won't have to worry about pregnancy and enjoy the feelings
>>of being a whole man.
>
>Oh WOW!!!  "Spermal excrement"?????????  
>Is it just me or is ba.singles going downhill rapidly.

You aren't actually surprised, are you? After his pissing into the wind about
Sandra's brother's wedding you didn't *expect* something like this? Sheesh, 
your Comdex illness must have been worse than I thought! ;)

>Look, a vasectomy just stops the little guys with the big heads
>and wiggly tails from getting into the fluid.  Your "spermal
>excrement" doesn't change.  Your women can still enjoy being
>sprayed by your "love juices".

Oh joy! Oh rapture unforseen! *snort*

>Read a book!  
>Learn something!
>Get a life!

We should be so lucky...

Tyger
-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:02:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec18.195706.15527@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:

>Why did Sam have to ask her?  Doesn't Jane have any class at all?
>I would have asked ahead of time for details about the date, including
>whether he would like me to pay him back for my ticket, etc.

>If Sam actually asked her, she should consider herself lucky.

>If she liked his conversation, and enjoyed being with him, she should
>say yes.  (And this time, treat him a little more fairly!)  If she didn't
>she should say no.

My suspicions are confirmed.  We really do live on totally different
planets.  

I'm not sure I'll understand, because we're obviously speaking two vastly
different languages here, but just how did Jane treat Sam unfairly?

-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 11:14:20 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <3b+rr8q@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
}r. (a 28 year old generation X baby-buster child, and proud of it :)

Let's see:  1992 - 28 = 1964, which was the final year of the baby boom.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Surrogate companion
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:43:36 GMT


  After reading various threads, I wuz inspired to throw out some stuff:
--Anybody else suffer from the "understudy for the part" syndrome? I have
at least three good male friends who throughout the years go through
various relationships -- and in between, guess who fills in? No, not 
sexually, but during that interrim period I'm the never-fail alternative
female companion. Guy gets girlfriend, calls me up once in a while to talk
about it, breaks up, calls me more often and we go out to eat or see a 
movie, etc. and talk about our respective lack of love lives. Then guy starts
liking another woman, asks me for advice (like I'm an expert! :-(. ) Gets her,
calls me up once in a while to say how happy he is.
  Yes, this has constantly happened in my (admittedly short) life. One
friend in particular gets together with and breaks up with the same girl an
average of once a year, and every interim period between has "returned" to
me -- we hold hands, I hang out with his family, and then he gets together
with her again (it's especially strange because I'm friends with her too).
No, it's not a _bad_ thing -- it's just that I get insecure sometimes -- how
come I"m always the "backup?" Doesn't help the frail ego much. :-).  Sort of
a cross between a female companion and a male buddy. Boy, I feel androgynous.
Or maybe hermaphroditic?
 --Which is another thing.  People talk about the "can-MOTOS-be-just-friends"    
  And then there's the bad timing thing. Like, someone likes you but you just
want to be friends.  Eventually you start to like (him) and (he) by that time
just wants to be friends. Or visa versa.
  And, last but not least, the "deja vu" syndrome. "OH my god, it's happening
all over again." _This_ one's wearing converse. Just like the last one. HE
likes classic rock. Just like the last one. Prototype: Slender, muscled, 
appears sensitive and artistic at first but it turns out to be insecurity and
self-destructiveness; what you thought was mellowness is just apathy, and
"cool" is just fear or lack of desire to be honest and deal with emotional  
risk. Same admonitions from your friends, "You deserve better." Whoa, press
the replay button. 
  No, I'm no
relating to men romantically" myself, but geez, what am I missing here?
  Maybe someone could light a few lamps so I don't have to whistle in the
dark. Or at least reassure me I'm not the only one whistling.
   Am I babbbling? Yes, I am. So sorry...

   There is probably a junk line somewhere below. Ignore it. My skills at
the editor are still rather unrefined.
                                       Cheers,
                                            --ac

thing...for me it's "can-MOTOS-ever-be-anything-besides-just-friends-or-just-
lovers," --it's always been one extreme or the other. 
I can't seem to keep ex-
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From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:26:19 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>
>LM> Fer crissakes, if you feel that way, why not just get a
>LM> vasectomy??  It seems to me to be a very simple solution:
>LM> if you dont' want the responsibility for babies, don't make
>LM> 'em.  If you're unwilling to take your own precautions, then
>LM> don't have sex.  Simple, and no need for a contract.
>
>
>It's not that simple, Lana.  *David* may not want children (perhaps never),
>but a vasectomy might be a bit TOO extreme, especially if he should decide in
>the future that he wants to have a family.
>
	WHAT? You mean he is gonna change his mind later on, at a point in
his life that he wants to take new circumstances into consideration???? 
Isnt that like lying to himself? He hates being lied to, I hear. 

	:-)
>
>---
>Will Steeves, goid@zooid.guild.org                      "Neil Hull is GOiD"
>ZOOiD BBS, Toronto, Ontario - The Zoo Of Ids            "GOiDS Rule"
>(416) 322-7876
-----
/bruce
"Time past and time present are perhaps both present in time future
 and time future contained in time past."	- T.S. Eliot "Four Quartets"
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:14:51 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <32610030@hpmwgde2.sr.hp.com> budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren) writes:
>>And why are they always whining about chocolate?  I can't count how many
>Although there isn't any such thing as a true aphrodesiac, chocolate is one
>of those things that seems to come close.  Wine is another.  Try chocolate

Hey Bud, you are right in saying that Chocalate comes closest to being
an aphrodesiac.  In fact, the reason people feel good after eating
chocalate is because chocalate contains the same chemical that is
realeased in the body when one gets aroused during or immediately
before sexual activity.  So in fact, eating chocalate can indeed 
cause one to start feeling horny.  So feed those ladies all the
chocalate they want.  You won't regret it, providing the precautions
you stated previously are abided by!
--Keith
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 17 Dec 1992 11:31:10 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec14.205235.23250@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
}I was devastated even more so when after years without pets, I
}decided to go back to the allergist and tell him that I had to have
}a cat that there must be some breed of cats that I could still breath  
}when around. 
}
}The allergist told me to get a dog.  [...]

There are two breeds of cat that can be suitable for folks with allergies.
The Cornish Rex lacks guard hairs (it's sometimes called the Poodle Cat),
and the Sphynx is almost naked.  The latter cat was bred in Canada, too,
so I'm surprised that your allergist was unaware of it.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mzank@shell.portal.com (matthew c zank)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:10:55 GMT

Women just do not like nice guys, so why all this talk??
--
Matthew Zank * Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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mzank@nyx.cs.du.edu    MZANK@MCIMAIL.COM
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:52:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.212243.26513@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>> 
>>I would much prefer a "Thank you very much for dinner tonight.  I had
>>a wonderful time", and maybe a kiss on the cheek than 25% of the tab and
>>a handshake.
>
>Are these options mutually exclusive?  Can a woman not enjoy the company
>of a man _and_ be considerate enough to share the expenses of dating?
>If a man picks up the tab, does that mean that the woman will give him
>a kiss, rather than a handshake?  Should a man foot the bill if he
>hopes for a kiss, rather than a handshake?  Suppose the woman hopes
>for a kiss, rather than a handshake?  Is that when she should pay?
>(after all, what is the differrence between going out on a "date",
>and "going out with the homeboys/homegirls")

I'm glad this question has surfaced. I feel if either gender is
that concerned with a kiss that the most equitable solution might be
to take a pistol and blow their friggin head off. But hey I'm sensitive.
 
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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:46:40 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Nice Guys
 <1992Dec2.115718.17043@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <75185@apple.apple.COM>
 <7615@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> <75419@apple.apple.COM> <Bz4uI8.BC3@unix.portal.com>

In article <Bz4uI8.BC3@unix.portal.com>, mzank@shell.portal.com (matthew c zank)
says:
>
>Women just do not like nice guys, so why all this talk??
>--
>Matthew Zank * Eau Claire, Wisconsin
>------------------------------------
>mzank@shell.portal.com
>mzank@nyx.cs.du.edu    MZANK@MCIMAIL.COM

Women do not like people who expect them to do all the work.
If you want to go out with someone, *ask them*.  Be prepared to
deal with the answer, and the cumulative input of a bunch of
answers.  (You're asking the wrong people if you get an unbroken
string of horrified 'no! -retch-' responses, OR you're asking in the
wrong way/at the wrong time OR you have a visible flaw you need to
work on dealing with (hygeine, obesity, no noticeable facial expressions,
won't risk *anything*)

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: Breaking with Tradition (was: Re: Picking up the Tab)
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:39:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.213142.10081@gvl.unisys.com>, liz@vfl.paramax.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
|> 
|> Your flipping of a coin mention reminded me of some friends of mine who
|> pulled names from a hat to determine what their last name would be after
|> they were married.  They wanted one common name, didn't like the hyphenated
|> idea, so they wrote them down and pulled one out.  Her name was pulled so
|> he changed his.
|> 
|> Liz Loquacious

I have a friend who wanted to take his wife's name, then found out that he 
would have to go to court to have his name legally changed, rather than just 
assuming her name as a woman can do when she gets married.  'Nuther one of them
sex-discrimination thangs...

Chris Hudson
-- 
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Truth/Psychiatrists and homosexuality.
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:07:49 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec12.085258.9356@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.060413.1531@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>
>>[deleted]                  ()
>/deleted/
 
awk: bailing out near line 1

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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:02:59 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Dec11.160050.20462@amd.com> jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn) writes:
>In article <Bz22Eu.FtC@mail.boi.hp.com> morrison@boi.hp.com (Glen Morrison) writes:
>>This is the 163rd response to this subject.  Does anyboby actually read this
>>far into a thread???

>No, of course not.  Isn't it obvious to you?

>If after reading this it still isn't clear to you, try dialing:  

> 	384-3333 

What area code?
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From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Subject: Re: Stoke Dat Pizza Oven
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:30:39 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Dec12161856@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.090324.9958@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>
>  >In article <1992Dec11.032838.25983@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>  >>>>[deleted]
>  >>>>		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
>  >>>[deleted] 
>  >>>               Sesquipedalian
>  >>[deleted]
>  >
>  >[deleted]
>
>My, that was certainly enlightening.
>

     Inside joke.

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