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From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: Deep Racism (was Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to ...
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:28:24 GMT

In article <saied.722200058@cwis>, saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*), an
apologist for the terrorist Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization expresses his
deep thought:

> mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi), an apologist
> for the terrorist Khomeini regime expresses his deep thought:
>
> [stuff deleted]
> 
> >Arabs...... the world would be a safer place without them. Just the deep 
> >thought..... 
> 
> >I can't believe I said that.
> 
> Believe it. It is you. And it wont take very long
> for people like you to show your real face and to
> express your deep thoughts.
> 
> It is unfortunate that while the Khomeini regimes'
> terrorist Pasdaran and/or the IDF need your services,
> you're wasting your time in Ohio.
> 

It is unfortunate that while the MKO could use your services
fire-bombing Iran Air offices in Europe, bludgeoning Iranian diplomats
in Australia, taking hostages in New York, ransacking Iranian embassies
and interests around the world, you are wasting your time in Omaha. :-)
Of course, maybe you get around more than we might guess....there were a
few times when I was wondering where your posts were? :-)

In support of Mr. Taghavi, he has done SCI a service by regularly
supplying news articles, both favorable and non-favorable toward the
IRI. I have seen little but rehashed MKO propaganda from you, Saied*. 

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
From: mporter@neumann.une.edu.au (The Real Genious)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Free Of Charge
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:06:28 GMT

Salam Doostane Aziz,
	Have you ever wandered who is telling the truth?? Well, there is a 
newspaper called GAM that is all truth and has the best Iranian writers
known and is distributed to anyone that wants on FREE of charge to anywhere
in the world, so far it's publications have reached 10,000 copies a month
and it is sent to almost every Iranian in the world, then it might get 
reprinted my them and distributed  again as well. I also want to say that
for those of you who read Keyhan, will put it away after readin GAM.
The address to request for a copy and monthly issues, please write to
                          GAM
			  P.O. Box 38
			  Merrylands N.S.W.
			  Australia  2160
						Farzin
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: More info on the Iranian Sub
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:10:45 GMT

mccd@rosie.uh.edu (Reza Golshan(RA) (713)-743-1540) writes:


>	I am not sure about the accuracy of this one.  Some of the lines
>were deleted.

> 						RGolshan@uh.edu

>**********************************************************************
>**********************************************************************

>From Jan I Wolitzky <wolit@mhuxd.att.com>

>According to a story on the AP wire today, derived from a report in
>today's Jane's Defense Weekly, Iran is building a base at Chah Bahar
>for the former Soviet Kilo-class subs it's buying from Russia.

>This site is on the Gulf of Oman, between the Persian Gulf and the
>Arabian Sea, not at Bandar Abbas in the Gulf as previously believed.
>Jane's believes that this implies the subs will be operated mainly
>in the Arabian Sea.  

This base existed before the revolution.
There are two main bases in KONAARAK (20 km from chaah bahaar).
An air force base which is also a civilian airport and a Navy base
which was half completed when I visited the place almost 8 years ago.

The Navy personnel were trained for submarine long before the revolution.
Iran was supposed to recieve a couple of submarines from Germany (I think)
but that did not happen due to the revolution.  Therefore, Iran had the
base and the personnel to operate the submarine even befre the
revolution.  In fact these were the Americans who encouraged Iran in
expanding its influence to the sea of OMMAAN and Indian ocean.  IRI
is only trying to continue the policy of the past.  r


>The report says that a platform on the Kilo that has been delivered,
>not present on standard Kilos, can be used for launching "SA-14 or
>SA-16" IR-guided surface-to-air missile.


>Jan Wolitzky, AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ; 908 582-2998
>          att!mhuxd!wolit or jan.wolitzky@att.com
>   (Affiliation given for identification purposes only)
>           Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu (AMY E. ECKERT)
Subject: Seeking info on Iranian Christians
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:15:37 GMT

Hello,
I am looking for information about the status of Iranian people who convert from
Islam to Christianity.  The more recent this information is, the more
helpful it will be.  If you know of any sources which would have this type
of information, please email me.
Thank you,
Amy
aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: eskandar@ee.ualberta.ca (eskandar)
Subject: Re: Free Of Charge
Originator: eskandar@eigen.ee.ualberta.ca
Organization: Univ of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:49:57 GMT

mporter@neumann.une.edu.au (The Real Genious) writes:
> Salam Doostane Aziz,
> 	Have you ever wandered who is telling the truth?? Well, there is a 
> newspaper called GAM that is all truth and has the best Iranian writers
> known and is distributed to anyone that wants on FREE of charge to anywhere
> in the world, so far it's publications have reached 10,000 copies a month
> and it is sent to almost every Iranian in the world, then it might get 
> reprinted my them and distributed  again as well. I also want to say that
> for those of you who read Keyhan, will put it away after readin GAM.
> The address to request for a copy and monthly issues, please write to
>                           GAM
> 			  P.O. Box 38
> 			  Merrylands N.S.W.
> 			  Australia  2160
> 						Farzin

	FREE! that sounds too good, as the old persian expression 
	says even 'naneh' doesn't do favours for 'bAbA' for free
	how come they are giving out FREE newspapers? Specially 
	Iranians.

	May I ask where is the funding for this newspaper comming  	
	from. 

	/Eskandar
From: ins877s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (T.H.TAN)
Subject: Re: Think Malaysian, not Malay, Chinese, Indian????????
Keywords: Malaysia for Malays, more likely
Organization: Monash University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:08:52 GMT

In article <97610@netnews.upenn.edu> nlatif@widget.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif) writes:
>
>Hey bro!! If Im not telling the truth, why havent I heard from a SINGLE 
>Chinaporean answering my ultimate question.  How many Malays are there in your
>cabinet?? If I think that Singapore is so "peaceful" as you claim, I wouldnt,
>in the first place, mention your country. Its just for the Malaysian Chinese 
>to know that if they think that they are being mistreated, what 'bout the 
>Malays in Singapore??? Since LKY "made" Singapore, the Malays population there
>has decreased (in %) compared to the Chinese. Why?? 'Cos your government tried
>to bring Chinese from Hong Kong etc to come there so that your country will
>be full with Chinese (as you can see now). This IS a fact!! The Malays 
>population in Singapore is scarse after your government relocate them in flats/
>apartments. They used to live together in a group/s.  And why??  Again, so that
>there wont be a strong Malay influence in parts of your republic (republic...
>yeah right!! ). U wont see that in Malaysia. There are some places here where
>certain race is the majority leaving there. We dont go and relocate them like
>your government did to the Malays there. 
>
>Hey, every country has a certain dominant group/race. If China, and Taiwan are
>dominated by the Chinese (I should put Singapore too), why cant Malaysia be
>dominated by Malays?? Hey, even the US has a dominant group...Caucasians/
>whites.  I only brought this up after I read all of your bullshit!! And 
>before I leave for now, I just wanna remind you that dont even think of 
>answering this post if u cant answer my QUESTION above. Hasta luego.
>
>Azli.
> 

	My only comment : Fortunately you are not a politician in Malaysia.
			  Hopefully you won't be one in the future either.


	Just me,
	TH TAN
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: An amicable request to all flamers.
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:01:06 GMT

ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>	My last point.  The people from NUS and NTU are trying to start up
>s.c.s.  One reason given is the inflammability of this newsgroup.  My friend
>from NTU just looked in and said "Jeez... I am not going in there!"  Do you
>really want to turn people away with all that heat and stuff?  (say nay to
>s.c.s and s.c.m)

I don't think people will be turned away. :) The more flames there is,
all the more people want to go in. It's just like watching a scary
ghost story. :)


>	I appeal to you to think of the opposition as simple humans like
>yourself or me.  All this flaming business have got to stop.  It is hurting us,
>the readers of sca and those people who are flamming under the pretext of "I am
>merely *DISCUSSING*" can please go take a running jump in a lake.  Please go
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

					    After you, Mike.


>take a look at other *.culture.* groups and see how they conduct themselves.
>	We are representatives of our respective countries.  How are we going
>to tell other people that our country is a peaceful one if you can't keep your
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>hands of the next person's neck?


Superficially peaceful, may be. But how about the facts that you do find
a lot of discontentments especially among the non bumis ?  What are
we going to do ? Just pretend, and keep smiling ? :) & sweep all the
SHITS under carpets ? Not a very good idea you know, because the
SHITS will still stinks. We just have to let the whole world know
about the many outrageous policies in the country. Perhaps then, the
gov't will come to their senses. Right now I don't think the country
is doing too well; when people like En. Othman still label Chinese
as migrants, ungrateful, robbing the country of wealth while some
think the Chinese should go back to China.
From: iwirawan@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Indra Wirawan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Anwar Ibrahim's Qualifications
Date: 19 Nov 1992 02:59:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

>In article <1992Nov8.162829.28412@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>>
>>
>>To ME someone who do not get a first class honours is a failure. To get it
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Prof. Othman,

 What an arrogant manner !

 For me it does not really matter, the important thing is how do you
perform in real life, holding a degree does not guarantee you to have a
better life. 


=============================================================================
  Indra Wirawan                       | iwirawan@tartarus.uwa.edu.au 
  The University of Western Australia | Broadway, Nedlands 6009  
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: mmohamme@nyx.cs.du.edu (mokta mohammed)
Subject: CHECK THIS OUT, OTHMAN
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 07:10:17 GMT

This message is for Othman

You low life idiot, get a life.


U have been annoying a whole lot of people not to mention
wasting a lot of bandwidth with all your stupid crap!!!!
You f*$#ing idiot, put your hormone to better use (if u have any)
than flaming and igniting racial tension among your country men.
Any flame for me should be posted in this newsgroup. Othman, I
dare you!!! 
happy thanx giving.

cheers
mok, the main man


P.S: GO MALCOM X

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: RE:Malaysia:Righting the Wrongs.
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:31:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.072358.10538@honte.uleth.ca>, std_kuah@hg.uleth.ca writes:
|> 
|> Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney also talk big in a summit that
|> any countries that violated huwo/man rights will not get Canadian loan
|> guareenteed. The Canadian PM better sweep his back yards on the Canadians
|> First People- The Native people issue before he can qualify to speak on
|> huwo/man rights in the third world.
|> 
|> I am trying to prove the issue of west exploitation with the British
|> polarization policies she uses in many parts of the globe.
|> The Canadian example is an extensions of British Colonial policies
|> in the issue of mistreatment of the First Nations People-The Native
|> people.
|> 
Deat Std Kuah,

Since you are in Canada, I presume that you are aware of the recent
attempts to help and recognize the Natives and their rights.  The
referendum would have been a major step forward, but was unfortunately
voted down by the west (western Canada that is), Quebec and the
Natives themselves.   I wonder why :(.
 
Much as I disklike Mulroney, his party have been very progressive
towards liberization of the First Nation; and I find you very
mis-informed.  If there is any credit that I can give to the Mulroney
government, then it will be their human rights towards the First
Nation.  While US conveniently swallow them up, Canada (except Quebec)
have been trying to work some thing out.
 
What I'd say seem to belong more appropriately to soc.culture.canada
or can.politics.  Sorry for using the bandwidth here.

............................................................................
. Kyle Hor                    .    /       / _   .  Email  khor@bnr.ca     .
. Bell-Northern Research Ltd. .   /__\  / / /_\  .  Phone  (613) 763-2488  .
. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada     .  / \  \/ /  \__  .  ESN          393-2488  .
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.............  searching forever, for the perfect solution  ................
From: x92raja1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Bumis and Non-Bumis in M'sia
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:46:33 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

	How rudely do we talk about the percentage of "give-aways" between
the Bumiputras and the Non-Bumiputras. I have been observing the replies
that have been sent back-and-forth about how "unfair" the Malaysian
government is, and I would like to try and understand all of you out there
but, I still can't figure out why "now"? 
	Why must these words of "unbias", "unfair", and "racisms", come
into the general picture now? If we were to talk about the percentage
of fairness between the Bumis and Non, we'd have to go back to the time
when the late Tunku Abdul Rahman held Malaysians "Chariots of Fire".
	Before most of you may agree or dissagree with me or with the
others in here, do read up our own history of the Malaysian government.
The best book that you may want to look into....."Looking Back". 
Remember that?!?! (How unruly can we have a statue of a living person
at the Parliament building?!?!) And to understand further how our 
systems really work, we can go-ahead and have a better insight of M'sian
gov't policies from this book called "Malaysian New Economic Policy".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: 10792759@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (YEW YAP)
Subject: Re: TO YOU CHINESE..
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:47:31 GMT


>Excerpts from mail: 15-Nov-92 Re: TO YOU CHINESE.. by YEW YAP@eng2.eng.monash. 

>Tee-Ming Ooi

What is this? I send someone a personal mail to express my views, and the 
next thing I know, it gets posted on the newsgroup. 

So much for being discrete.

Just another chap,
Alexander The First.
From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Fretelin's leader arrested
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:59:39 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Radio Australia reported today (heard Nov. 20th, 13:00 UTC) that
Fretelin's leader was arrested in Dili by Indonesian authorities.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Motion.... Please Vote!!
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth  Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:44:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.012358.13656@latcs1.lat.oz.au>, koay@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jin S. Koay) writes:
> 	After reading Pak Othman's latest posting on his "deep" and "complete
> research on the qualifications of Dato' Anwar Ibrahim and the statement of
> "...ignorant Chinese...", I would like to urge all readers of this newsgroup
> to vote on this motion that:
> 
> 	"Othman Ahmad & dogs' postings not allowed"

My vote is NO!

Dogs' postings should be allowed!

Oh, okay, let Othman Bin4Brains post aswell.  We can't be discriminatory, can
we!???

Rod
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From: x90mohd30@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Latest on Malaysia Cup Final
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:09:47 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Sorry that I stopped abruptly.....

	Anyway, Pahang won 4 championship....

                Sumbangsih Cup
		League Cup (First Division)
		Fair Play Cup
		MAlaysia Cup...........
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Somebody please get Othman Ahmad off the newsgroup!
From: projs8@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (TSE THAM)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:02:22 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:

>afs2@po.CWRU.Edu (Ahmad F. Shaarani) writes:
>>To all the Malays who support Othman's stand, I hope that you will open 
>>your eyes to the suffering of our fellow Malaysians, our neighbors, our
>>friends. We need them as much as they need us. We are different, but
>>do not let physcial differences separates us.
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Actually not that much different too. Indeed if more people
>especially the politicians, think like you Malaysia would
>have become the 4th 'DRAGON', & everybody in the country
>would have benefited.

You're right. There's actually not much difference among the Indians, Malays
and Chinese. The genetic pool only became separated about 2000-4000 years
ago as they all originated from the same region (south China, I think).
Anyway the most obvious difference is in skin pigmentation, which is just a
response to the prevalent environmental conditions (since separation). So,
why not everyone work together?

>>-- 
>>Ahmad Faisal Adham Shaazi        | 
>>Computer Engineering             | 
>>Case Western Reserve University  | 
>>Cleveland Ohio USA               | 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: veloovet@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mohan veloo vethiveloo)
Subject: Re: SGP: Both DPMs have lymph cancer!!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:42:17 GMT

In <1992Nov16.104712.44820@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:



There's some information on this in the latest news available on the Technet
Gopher. Seems that the announcement caused a 32 point drop in the ST-index!!!

>Radio Australia announced today (Nov. 16th, heard at 13:00 UTC) that
>BOTH Deputy Prime Ministers in Singapore have malignant lymphomas
>(spreading cancer of the lymph nodes). BG Lee is already reportely
>undergoing chemotherapy.

>This should start some jockeying within the PAP for the DPM
>position(s).

Mohan
From: x92lim5@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: WHICHITA STATE U. NETTERS :HELP
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:40:47 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Fellow netters in Wichita State University,
               
           I requst assistance from you in locating a person
named  LIM SONG SOON ( PHILIP ),Malaysian and believed  to be
an Aviation Management major. He had arrived in WSU early August.

           Philip and I are best of pals. We were suppose to go to 
the same university together ..........but alas, time 
changes everything.


            I would appreciate very much if you can provide me 
assistance. Please direct any info to my E address..

Thank you and happy thanksgiving!


Stanley Lim

Western Michigan University.
Tel (room) : 616 387-0115.





Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Othman's argument
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 06:32:57 GMT

Heng Wei Osbert Tan (fellow@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
: 
: Silly me, according to your argument, why is the native not running the 
: Malaysian government, or the native Indian running the USA, or for that

Are you saying the Malays are not natives? What makes you think there were not
the Jakuns , Sakais who live near the sea? When the Malacca empire first
start, weren't there people there already? Who are those people?

: matter the African running the whole world, since they were the earliest
: occupants of their respective habitat ? As long as the law applied to 
: everyone involved, I don't see the unfairness in it. Furthermore, I can 
: assure you that by 1963, the Chinese population in Singapore were the most
: and therefore suffered more in absolute number.

What was the % of chinese in 1963? What % of them own lands, compared to 
Malays? This absolute number business is a common singaporean excuse for
neglecting the minorities, at least by a growing number of them.
	So the minorities should NEVER get any help because they are ALWAYS
small in number, NEGLIGIBLE in fact?

Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean