HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Profibuch (was Julian Reschke involved...)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:47:14 +0100
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de

In <jonal.122.727891145@dhhalden.no> jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD) writes:

>What about if some of us who can I/O both German and English volunteered to 
>translate a chapter each...?? 

I think this is a good idea, and I'd certainly volunteer for such
a  project (I'm native German, and my English... well, look at my
postings, it sort of works... :-). However, it seems to  me  that
we  have  another  example  here how copyright can prevent a good
plan from being done. Copyright  "protection"  of  printed  books
normally  states  that  the book may not be translated to another
language without explicit consent of the publisher.
This means, if we can find a group that is willing  to  translate
the  Profibuch,  we'd  have  to  get into contact with Sybex. I'd
expect that then, the Sybex folks would doubt the professionalism
of  such  a bunch of people as translors. They may finally agree,
but under the obligation that the translated version may  not  be
made available to anyone but them. Then, they'll take the English
version, and if they think it is properly done, there might be  a
chance they actually print it.
Because of all these hassles that would  inevitably  accompany  a
Profibuch  translation  project,  I  restrict  my statement about
volunteering the following way:  I  would  do  it,  but  only  if
someone  else negotiated with Sybex in advance and made sure that
they are going to publish it.
Maybe Julian Reschke can comment on whether there is a chance  to
get things going under such reasonable conditions.

Greetinx, Jan

P.S.: Is there anyone from the pro-copyright fraction  who  wants
to  argue  that volunteers translating the Profibuch would do any
harm to Sybex...?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Subject: Re: Speedo GDOS questions...
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:38:00 GMT

In article <7082@tuegate.tue.nl>, wmtwen@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Erlend Nagel) writes:
>I would like to know what fonts will be included with SpeedoGDOS and if
>there is going to be a font-editor and/or conversion utility to make
>vector fonts from bitmapped fonts.

SpeedoGDOS will be using BitStream fonts.  You will not need a font-editor,
since there are well over 1,000 typefaces available commercially.  BitStream
produces fonts used by a large number of Intel-clone software.  My father uses
them quite a lot in label-making programs, DTP programs and the like.  (Dad has
a 286-based system.)  Supposedly, there will be a cost for SpeedoGDOS to cover
the royalties due to BitStream for their font technology and fonts families.

You won't want a font-editor or conversion utility because bitmapped ST fonts
are too crude when compared to the quality of a true vector font.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: All these wars...
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:58:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan20.122015.25870@email.tuwien.ac.at>

Marinos Yannikos writes:

>I agree! A comp.sys.atari.st.advocacy group should be
>created as soon as possible!

No..  Atari Corp needs to do something, as soon as possible.
 
With new products, new software, new applications, new information,
there wouldn't be any need for an "advocacy" group..
 
There'd be so much chatter about all the great new products and programs
that you couldn't get a flamewar in edgewise...

Who would want to waste time arguing about silly stuff when there would
be great new applications to discuss..?
 
Think about this...  ONE new Atari dealer opens in California somewhere, 
and it's a world-wide media event...   that's pretty sad..!

BobR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oyakea@warren1b.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake)
Subject: Leonard Tramiel Sin List
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:42:35 GMT


 Hello my friends, I would like to know why there is a dislike for
Leonard Tramiel ? As you may be able to tell I am clueless on this topic.
Any way I would like a cronological list of sins against Atari users ... by
this mysterious nemesis.
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: None
Subject: A1200 versus Falcon 030 once again (FAQ?)
	<1993Jan20.194026.25748@westminster.ac.uk>
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:48:46 MET

In <1993Jan20.194026.25748@westminster.ac.uk>, William Hargreaves writes:
>Why have Atari made the Falcon a 32-bit machine with only a 16-bit data bus.
>Surely, this will mean it only runs half as fast as it should.

It may seem like it only would run at half of what it could, but the
68030 is designed to perform at 100% when in async mode. That is 3 clock 
cycles for each longword access on a 32 bit bus. However, when in sync 
mode it uses 2clock cycles for each longword access on a 32 bit bus.
This means that the bus has owercapacity (i.e. the bus will be idle
every third (on an average) clock cycle. In the falcon they use sync 
mode on a 16 bit bus. This gives a 4 clock cycle for each longword
access to the bus. This implies a 25% reduction in performance, not 50%.

These days the atari and amiga people are arguing which computer have 
the fastest cpu (Falcon 030 versus A1200). The 68030 have better performance 
than a 68020 when placed in an equal arcitecture. Additionaly the A1200 runs
at 14.4 Mhz, wheras the F030 runs at 16Mhz (i realy think its 16.01xxxMhz)
giving it a extra 10% over the A1200. Summing it all up, my bet is that
this is a dead race!


Is this the fifth or fifteenth time I wrote this story?
May someone (spellcheck it and) add this too the FAQ???
-- 
  _______________________________________________________
 / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: a bunch of stuff for the Atari
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 17:18:02 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <H.ea.BmLPNS6JrMs@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>

Chris Herborth writes:

>2) Where can I go to buy all these wonderful products?

Joppa Computer Products (301) 6761948 has an extensive list of
Atari products they sell, which they include with each order
they ship.  They'd probably be happy to send one out if you call.
 
It's not like having a local dealer to go to to actually see
anything new, but at least it's there.

BobR
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotrynex
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:42:56 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


 (01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu) wrote:
OS/2> > I've noticed that all the snippets of wisdom accumulated over the millenia,
OS/2> > all the valuable lessons people have learned time and time again, have been
OS/2> > completely forgotten by the vast majority of computerphiles.  It is completely
OS/2> > amazing to me that so many people are running around under the impression that
OS/2> > people should be judged by the type of computer they own or language they
OS/2> > choose to program in--and that money _can_ buy happiness and bigger _is_
OS/2> > always better.  I have run into many people who flagrantly brag that they
OS/2> > own a 66 MHz 486.  That really is pathetic when you stop and think about it.
OS/2> 
OS/2> What is the deal with those 66mHz claims anywho?  I've heard that it's not
OS/2> altogether a true statement -- one of those claims that _should_ be followed by
OS/2> a little asterisk for disclaimer.   Anyone?

He is talking about the DX2 66mhz chip.  It runs at 66mhz internally and
33mhz externally.  That way, a person who has a machine with a 33mhz bus can
pop the new chip in and get a vast improvement in performance.  Depending
on what kinds of applications you run, the actual performance boost
varies.  For me, I noticed almost a doubling of performance in ray tracing
(under OS/2), but no big shakes for spreadsheets and word processing.
However, it seems to make a HUGE difference when I'm running unix on my
machine.  Processing 500K of compressed news batches only takes about
a minute and compiles are very fast.

This clock doubling technology thing is nothing new.  Motorola chips
have been doing it for a long time...they just don't make a big deal
out of it.

The bottom line:  If you don't have any heavy math or mpu piggy
programs to run, you're probably better off spending your hard 
earned bucks on a faster hard disk or more memory.

Cheers,

Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mike@medsun.unige.ch (michel morris)
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR: Knowing What To Do
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:52:33 GMT

In article <1201@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>, anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko) writes:
> In article <C17wC1.CEA@news.rich.bnr.ca> grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier) writes:
> >
> >Another neat trick that works is format a small partition, under 5 meg,
> >of your HD as an MFS( not HFS ) partition. Transverter can use this HD
> >partition as well as the 400k Spectre format floppy. This turns the
> >tranverter into something really usefull.
> 
>   Forgive me if I answer my own question, but how do you format a HD
> partition in MFS mode?  Going to the format option under Spectre 2.65,
> thr MFS box is greyed-out.  Was this option added later (in say 3.0) or
> is something just screwy with my setup?  

	The MFS option is greyed out if your partition is too big - you must 
_first_ prepare your 4ish meg. TOS partition, _then_ go to Spectre.
	Transverting to hard disk is great. But I STILL do not understand why
I could transvert to my MFS partition on my Mega ST, but cannot on my TT :-(

Mike Morris
From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: What is Going On???? Was: 800 birds to take of from T
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:14:04 EST

In <2438847@under.mind.ORG>, Steve_Johnson@under.mind.ORG writes:
> According to Jim Allen of Fast Tech., he's heard that Atari 
> warehouses ARE filling up with Falcon030's.  As has been said 
> before, Atari will be producing machines and stockpiling them to 
> ensure supply when the machine's actually released. 

Boy, are they ever taking a gamble here.  By the time they decide they
have enough, there won't be any demand, courtesy of the new Mac systems
and the cheap clone systems...

People can only wait for so long...
-- 
-------------------========================================-------------------
Chris Herborth
cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: pm@fortec.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Mayer)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP for the ST and LAN Server
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:47:18 GMT

In <3_800_842_fidonet2b511b0d@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au> michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith) writes:

>Original to: s19184@seb.se
>In a message of <31 Dec 92 20:27:54>, s19184@seb.se (3:713/602) writes:

> s> I have been thinking about the same thing. I know there are Ethernet
> s> cards for various ST-models in Germany, but I think that most of them
> s> are for Megas (ie expansion bus machines).

>There are drivers for a couple of VME ethernet boards as well...

And for the ACSI (DMA) port as well...

> s> The thought that struck me the other day (it did not hurt ;-) was that
> s> there are many "pocket" LAN adapters available for portable PCs. These
> s> plug onto the parallel port and supply a Token Ring or Ethernet
> s> (Thinwire or 10BaseT) connection.
> s> 
> s> Now an ST could not use the PC drivers which are supplied with the
> s> adapter, but the hardware could be of use even for my old 1040 STF.
> s> Has anyone looked at what is required to drive one of these adapters,
> s> and worked out what would be required to drive it though the ST
> s> parallel port instead?

>Yeah, unless they've changed them recently, you can't.  It's like with the
>pocket harddisks - the PC's parallel port has a pile of extra control lines
>that the ST doesn't, and you need these.  When I looked at the Xircom
>adapter a while ago, it seemed dependant on these extra lines.

We are using a DLINK DE600 pocket adapter on the cartridge port of
our STs with a selfmade interface and software. You can find details
on our host "fortec.tuwien.ac.at" via anonymous ftp.

> s> Personally, I am most interested in a NFS client, as I have just
> s> collected the SOSS NFS server for the PC, but I imagine that the
> s> appetite would grow as soon as the function became available.
> s> 
> s> Is this anything more than an old man's wild ideas?

>Argh! Ick!   I looked at NFS in detail a while ago - the compromises you
>have to make to get it to work at all in a PC-size environment are
>_horrible_... but it _could_ be done.  The real problem is actually
>implementing anything other than a super-low performance TCP/IP stack - if
>you do nasty things and minimise your buffering, it's not so bad
>implmentation-wise, but your performance will suck.

I too had the idea to port a NFS client (SOSS) but didn't have the time
until now.

> s> /Mike

>\`miff`                                                       /|\

Peter.

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Institute for Electronics          University of Technology - Vienna, Austria
Email: pm@sun5.iaee.tuwien.ac.at                     phone:  +43 1 58801 3967
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cczdvh@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (David Valentine-Hagart)
Subject: Re: Amiga Rules
Keywords: falcon
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 12:06:59 GMT

In article <C15Fp5.K5z@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> odonneln@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Nicholas Odonnell) writes:
>All you Atari owners should dump 'em and buy an Amiga 1200 today.
>
>Nick.
>.

Give a student access to the news and they just come in thier pants spouting
off to "the world" - WOW. I bet you've got a milk bottle down there right now
havn't you Nick      ...... Sheeesh.

DVH

DVH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Is there SLIP software for the ST?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:26:50 GMT

 Is anyone using / know where I can find SLIP software for the ST?

Mike
From: baffoni@phakt.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: STalker vs Uniterm?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:44:13 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <4084@isgtec.isgtec.com> ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:
>I tried Connect over the weekend, but 90% of it is in German, and I
>wrestled with it for a half hour trying to get it to use a smaller font
>so that I could see 24x80, but gave up. It has so many extra status lines
>and menu bars that the font would have to be pretty small. It also was
>*surprise* too slow IMO. Might be very nice in TT high though. :)

	Ken,

	I don't know if you missed it, but in the conneng.txt file, it 
describes how to make CoNnect English-user friendly.  All you have to do is
to move connect.rsc out of the connect directory (or delete it) and rename
the conneng.rsc file to connect.rsc.  Doing this will make all of the menus,
etc., into english.  In fact the only thing that will not appear in English is
the manual (and soon even that will appear in English :).  Also, you can remove
any of the sliders to give you the extra room you need.  Using the included 
Fonts, you can use a font that is decently readable while still giving you 
80x24 screen (to do that, just put the ANSI and ANSILITE fonts in to a folder
called GEMSYS in the same directory as CoNnect).
	It is a bit slow, but that can be fixed with a screen accelerator
like Warp9 or NVDI.

>ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman

	If you have any other questions, feel free to post or email me at
baffoni@aludra.usc.edu.

-MikeB



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry)
Subject: Re: FALCON is DEAD!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:54:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.154134.14631@sae.com> malay@sae.com writes:
>In article 9301204372@ritz.mordor.com, ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz) writes:
>>AL RASHID SHAHIR (alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
>>
>>OS/2> Oh yes, you say the future is in IBM? Fat chance from a
>>OS/2> company just about to fold!!!
>>
>>Bahahahahaha!  IBM is the largest computer manufacturer in the
>>world.  It is so entertaining hearing a user of Atari products
>>predicting the "fold"ing of IBM.  I think I'm going to have to put
>>that one in my .sig.
>>
>>Chris
>
>Just to clear something up - IBM does NOT sell the most computers in the
>world - in fact, IBM is lucky to be number 3 - Apple outsold everybody in
>1992. If you add IBM machines + clones then total machines sold will be
>more than everybody else sells - but the clone manufacturers are going to
>be the death of IBM as a PC manufacturer - why do you think they need to
>layoff so many people - why did they record nasty losses for 1992???
                                             ^^^^^
You call $7.2 billion "nasty"?  That has got to be the understatement of
the year.  Here in the UK we are worrying about 3 1/2 entire countries being
.038 billion pounds short a year!
  Well OK, I am using the strict definition of a billion for the UK budget
deficit and an American billion for IBM, but still $7 200 000 000.00 is the
biggest corporate loss in the history of the known universe.

- Leo
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: an atari IBM
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:11:32 GMT
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <iXPuXB3w165w@status.gen.nz>, Jon Clarke writes:

> If you do not want to do it yourself there is a great kit from "CT" in
> Germany.  I have written an article in Z*NET back in 1989 about how to
> convert your ST to an IBM case and the pros and cons. 
> 
> This is why I jump into the Atari is NON upgradeable flame all the time.
>
> Jon Clarke                                                     Z*NET Pacific

Do you still have the article you wrote Jon?
 If so, please post it... seems a few people are interested in doing it.

 Craig.


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From: quentin@dragons_lair.uk.sun.com (Quentin Hordle - Sun UK - Senior FSE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: SCSITAPE Driver
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:52:16 GMT
Reply-To: quentin@dragons_lair.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Can anybody either supply me with a copy of a scsitape driver for the atari or point me to the right place to extract one over the net.I pulled one from twitterpatter almost a year ago, but trying to run LZH on it gives corrupt header.
Apologies if I'm posting to the wrong group.

quentin.hordle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotrynex
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 07:10:47 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
  se>,<1993Jan22.121036.13975@bsu-ucs><1jqhd4INNlkf@golem.wcc.govt.nz>,<H.eL2Hg85D8ng@fredrik.atari.no>
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

> >There is now 100Mhz capability.  Not that anyone cares, right!? 8-)

> Oh, this was what I've been waiting for all my life: A computer with
> a processor whos clock frequency is reciveable on my FM-Tuner! I *MUST*
> have one of those }B^)
> 
> **Evil grin**

Okay, so I put a capital M instead of a lower-case! 8-)


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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: tp
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.10 Rev. Dec 15 1992
Subject: Re: STalker vs Uniterm?
Keywords: stalker,vt100
	<1993Jan21.121423.10420@ac.dal.ca>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:23:26 -0800
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In <1993Jan21.121423.10420@ac.dal.ca> cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes) writes:

>In article <3_800_842_fidonet2b57bb25@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au>,
	michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith) writes:
>>.... if you
>> disable it's default behaviour of clearing the history buffer on a
>> clear-home)

>...It seems to me that Eric R./Gribnif 
>claimed that it would be too hard  to detect the control sequences that do 
>that, when running in VT100 mode; do you know of a way to overcome the 
>problem? Thanks.

	After I read the first note I read through the manual looking for
how to disable screen clearing, and I can't find it anywhere, so please
elaborate. 

-- 
		 John Henders
		 Vancouver,BC