From: oroboros@acca.nmsu.edu (The Wyrm Ouroboros)
Subject: Re: SR: Stealth Suits-
Keywords: SR;ShadowRun;Shadow Run;SRun
Organization: The Lord KnightS
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:47:45 GMT

Beast of Mentor writes:
>Krishgan writes:
>>Concerning Predator/Beast's comments on Stealth Suits...
>>  1.  Ultrasound Stealth, not a real possibility without spending more 
>>     money than you and -most- of your freinds have combined.  However, try
>>     an Ultrasonic Sweeper, something that is a relative to a Whitenoise
>>     Generator.  Throws off all sorts of false images and -static-.
>Thank you, I never thought of that...
Fairly basic, if you get down to it.

>>  2.  Thermal Stealth, ok this one is easier.  The best two ideas that I
>>     have seen regard the Catalytic stuff, as its easier, and something that
>>     would vent the heat in random designs/directions (which would NOT
>>     power a Laser).
>The heat conversion (I see transducers working best) would be subject to the
>second law of thermodynamics, thus I would still be seen (though my heat trace
>would* be reduced).  However, I could combine the two (transducers on the
>inside, endo-thermic reaction on the outside), according to the guy next to me
>in the lab.
Theorize how the Knights of Harelich's suits work.

>>  3.  Light Stealth, ok lets call this Optic Stealth.  I don't think that
>>     technology has Adaptive Coloration just yet, but I know of two variations
>>     that are used.
>>     a.  Soft Armors that use Rheuthenium Fibers (spelling?)
>>     b.  Hard Armors that use Optic Ceraglass and an encoding system.
>>	"GEE, I can see right through him..."
>Where did you get the idea that we don't have Adaptive Coloration, or that
>R-fibers are limited to soft armor?  R-fibers are the full equivilant of
>Adaptive Coloration (the scanners scan the background, then display it on the
>appropriate surfaces).  Also, why can't you cover balistic plastic with
>lcd-like fibers?  The stuff is used for flat-screen terminals, which I assume
>is on a hard surface.  No need for home-brewed tech.  Plus you get extra
>clarity for each scanner you install, improving the stealth value.
>
>Yes, I actually have this one down pat.  :).  Visually, I already have Predator
>Armor :)
Wish I did.

>>   4.  Sonic Stealth, ok lets call this one "Auditory Stealth" and categorize
>>      it for -normal- band hearing.  This isn't too hard with the types of
>>      insulatory materials that are accessable.  If you do it though, make
>>      sure its a conic design for the sonic "padding" as that causes a far
>>      wider dispersion of the noise(s) you big ass makes.
>Or ask someone to stick a Silence spell on it, as you had suggested earlier
Hrm.  Silence would be a pain, unless you could turn it on and off.

>>   5.  Magical Stealth, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....talk with someone from
>>      the Death Knights or the Lord Knights, they might have a better idea
>>      on this one than I.
>Thank you, I have been discussing this with Meastro :) (of Lord Knights)
>Would Initiate masking help?

Hold on a moment, here.  Maestro may be a member of the Death Knights, bud,
but I do .not. believe that that weasel is a Lord Knight.  Keith, if you would
be able to assist in listing Past, Retired, and Current Lord Knights??

As for the Magical Stealth -- heh.  Figure out how to make it out of material
that'll set up a background count.

>>   6.  Sensory Stealth, in this case I am referring to Radar/Sonar/EM tracking
>>      styles.  I can make something the size of a Headband that is an ECM
>>      Lvl 4 with -little- difficulty.  It costs a mint and a half, but it
>>      is -really- worth it.
>1. I don't have 1.5 mints (unless you take certs :) )
>2. I think an ECM 1 will do me, and by doubling the base price, I can reduce
>the size to less than a CF, which I imagine I can stick into a back-pack with
>ease.  All ECMs jam Radar, and it wouldn't be too hard to modify it for
>Ultrasound.  I'm not too* worried about radar and vehicle sensers, as I am a
>Troll, not a vehicle.  I intend to go up against people, not tanks (though
>tanks might want to go against me, oh well)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that ECM works against Ultrasound.

>-Predator, looking more like his namesake every day

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