HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Sean Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: TLM found in Hamden, CT(interesting)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:22:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1edrudINNn06@bigboote.WPI.EDU> fmaurais@noether.WPI.EDU (Francis Maurais) writes: (about TLM prices)
>
>My girlfriend then asks for the price, for which the reply "$69.99" came back!!!
>This reminds me somewhat of Cabbage Patch Dolls, which my girlfriend still has
>four of. :)

I was wandering through a local mall a few months ago and noticed a display of 
TLM videos at $49.99 each at an independent video store.  I asked the owner why it 
was so expensive and he said that he scoured the US stores looking for TLM videos, 
bought whatever he found (at retail!) and then shipped them up here (to Canada).  
Since he was buying at retail and reselling them the $50 (Canadian) price tag was
justified.  

That $69.99 (US) price tag is highway robbery.

(I did pick up one of the TLM videos :-)

-- 
Sean Brandenburg         | Darkwing:  "You are *not* a well person!"
gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca | Megavolt:  "And you're NORMAL?!  'I am the cold sore
-------------------------|            that stings your lip??' We are definitely
Can\ada - Ottawa = Canada|            talking *demented*!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Closed attractions - December?????????
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:52:28 GMT

In article <1eekkcINNn3s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Russell I. Dyreng) writes:
>
>wiehn@gdc.com (John Wiehn) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know what will closed for repairs at WDW in Early 
>>December???
>>
>>I still haven't made it to the Haunted Mansion -- Always seems 
>>to be closed for repairs...........
>>
>>John Wiehn
>>EMAIL: WIEHN@EVAX.GDC.COM
>
>I called WDW with that same question a few weeks ago.  They
>told me that the only attractions scheduled to be down during
>that time are....(drumroll please)..... The Walt Disney Story
>and Mission to Mars.

Hmmm, just 2 weeks ago they also told me that Carousel (sp?)
of Progress would also be shut down.
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Thurl Ravenscroft
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:31:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Wasn't the voice of the Colonel (101 Dogs), the Walrus (Alice...), 
and Sir Ector (Sword...) also the voice of Colonel Hathi in Jungle 
Book?  The man behind that voice is J. Pat O'Malley.  Isn't it great
how environmentally conscious Disney is.  Just look at their voice
recycling program!  :-)  Another few recycled voices in Jungle Book:
Verna Felton (Winifred in Jungle Book, Fairy Godmother in Cinderella,
	Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland, to name what I can recall)
Sterling Holoway (Kaa in Jungle Book, Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland,
	Winnie the Pooh until recently, and several others that I can't think
	of right now)
Listening carefully,
Linda
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid voice question
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:23:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


        And, BTW, does anyone know who Nancy Cartwright played?
She is, BTW, Lisa Simpson.

        Thanks,
        -- Ethan
 
Nancy Cartwright is the voice of Bart Simpson.
-- 
Russ
bd670@cleveland.freenet.edu
Remember-any advice that I give you may be worth exactly what
you paid for it.
From: TSL18243@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Stacey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: WANTED:  DISNEY MOVIES
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:29:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR TWO DISNEY MOVIES WHICH ARE NO LONGER BEING 
BEING PRODUCED.  THE MOVIES THAT I NEED ARE "THE LITTLE MERMAID" AND 
"LADY AND THE TRAMP".  IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE I MAY OBTAIN THESE TWO 
VIDEOS OR IF ANYONE HAS ONE TO SELL PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

STACEY HOLLARS-TSL18243@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU
(918)254-9431 OR (918)425-9897
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: new avonlee episodes?
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Distribution: rec.arts.disney
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:44:02 GMT

> mah@att.com (Mark Hargrove) writes:
>anyone know anything about new Avonlee episodes.
>(beyond the two for the end of this month)

Word is that Sullivan Films will be doing a fourth season of
AVONLEA. 

Can't wait for "Old Friends, Old Wound" next week.  I've heard
that all the video splicing in the first half to give us the
death of Marilla is rather obvious and annoying, but once that's
out of the way, the episode becomes one of the best.  Thank god
for writers like Heather Conkie.

--Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom
-- 
------------------------| 
kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |   Genie!  Wake up and smell the homeless.
------------------------|                ---Genie, ALADDIN
From: erobinette@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Fair comparisons (was RE: Aladdin!!Wow!)
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:20:19 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1992Nov22.160344.29186@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
> In article <92325.085051ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>>Ethan writes "Still, you can discuss how well the moview was done ... My
>>problem with Aladdin is that it didn't seem to know what it wanted to be:
>>Comedy, Romance, Adventure, Action."
>>
>>I disagree.  I think Aladdin is primarily a comic adventure film.  The romance
>>provides some of the motivation, but is not central to the film.  I think
>>anyone who expects a romance like B&TB will be disappointed.
> 
> 	I think this is a big thing -- for those who haven't yet
> seen it, when you do go, try to force yourself to expect an
> adventure and make the romance side a second thing.
> 
> 	-- Ethan

As a friend of mine put it in his review of the film:
"I am sick and tired of hearing all the comparisons between Aladdin and BATB...
 the comparison doesn't fit. BATB is the Disneyfied version of An Officer and A
Gentleman.[Actually, I'm not sure I agree with using that title, but I can't
think of anything better--suggestions?] Sure, it had all the Disney elements, 
but at its heart it was a romance. Aladdin, on the other hand is closer in tone
to Lethal Weapon...If you're going to make a comparison [compare Aladdin] to
The Little Mermaid..For statrters, the two films have the same directing
team... Both films also share the same basic plot. A character from off the
beaten path, Aladdin or Ariel, falls in love with afar from royalty, Eric or
Jasmine...Both heroes are magically transformed to win over their true love
[while] the villain, Jafar or Ursula, uses sorcery to break up the couple..."

What do you think?

Eric Robinette
erobinette@desire.wright.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker)
Subject: Re: Parody; A Forum?
Organization:  MOOOOOOOOOON RIIIIIIIIIIVER!
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:42:05 GMT

Ed.Sterrett@f166.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Sterrett) writes:
>greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
> 
>>group, where does that leave us, eh?  As far as I'm concerned, the only
>>thing that has no place in this newsgroup is people who try to force
>>their morality down my throat.  I have my own values that I'm quite
> 
>So you would also force us to partake of your drivel, attempting to 
>justify your lack of taste?

Excuse me, Mr. Sterrett, but I think that if anyone is lacking here in taste,
judgement, insight, whathaveyou, it is you. If you truly had been paying 
attention during this whole conflagration, you would know that Greg was *not*
the person that wrote or posted the X-rated (R-rated) parody, but rather 
someone else. Greg's posts to rec.arts.disney are informative and insightful,
for the most part. As someone who clearly knows a great deal about Disney and
Disney events, Greg's posts would have value to new and old fans of Disney. On
the other hand, there is you. What I have seen of your dubious contribution is 
insult and invective.

To throw my two cents into that little debate momentarily, I think there was
ample warning that this was a Not For The Kiddies post, and ample opportunity
to bypass the offending lyrics. Perhaps a post saying that the song existed, 
and interested parties could send email to request it would have been better, 
but to say, as some have, that reading it was forced upon them, is ludicrous
and unfounded.

>   No one is questioning your right to express yourself, only your 
>ability to be responsible for those expressions.  Quite frankly, I am 
>sick and tired of this entire discussion. It has no place in this 
>echo, period.  I'm glad you have your own values, but please allow us 
>ours.  We are in this newsgroup to discuss Disney, a subject that 
>encompasses family values, not gutter values.  Take your immature 
>little act to rec.humor, or anywhere else that may be more 
>appropriate.

Immature little act? How is the God Squad coming in and making all sorts of
pronouncements as to the evils, both general and specific, of the Belle
parody any less ridiculous? I don't think *anyone* should have to take their
act *elsewhere*, and I think the implication by those quoting scripture and
pleading Family Values that those that defend the posting of such material
to rec.arts.disney are of weak moral character, immature, disgusting, whatever
are *way* out of line. I'm not sure which God they're following, but the one
I'm familiar with said "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself." 

Tyger
 
>Ed Sterrett  


-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: more Disney-bashing, Simpsons style
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:33:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Here's what looks like Disney-bashing, Batman(!) style:

In Thursday's episode of Batman, The Animated Series, the Joker was
standing in front of a neon sign.  The head of the neon mermaid
figure was obscured, but one could see that it had Ariel's tail,
top, and hair color.

I don't often watch that show, but that's the first Disney allusion
I've seen on it.  References to Tiny Toons abound there.


- Robert Cook
From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Please email me "hidden Mickeys"
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:17:41 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

Lori Leonard writes:
> About a month ago someone posted a wonderful listing of the hidden
> Mickeys at WDW and Epcot.  I would greatly appreciate if someone would
> email it to me at leonard@uunet.uu.net OR uunet!leonard.  Thanks
> Lori Leonard     Customer Liaison  leonard@uunet.uu.net

Since I'll be going to WDW in a couple of weeks (actually 17 days) I would want
to add to/confirm the 'hidden Mickey' list. If someone has the list, I would
really really like one.

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From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The American Adventure Corporate Lounge at EPCOT
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:44:24 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA


I'm told one of the corporate lounges is in the American 
Adventure at EPCOT.  Anybody know just whose lounge this is?
(I'm hoping it's AMEX, since I might manage to finagle a way in 
to that one.)

Thanks!


Without change,                         *David Barber*
   nothing can ever get better.            @}-->----

UUCP: ucsd!crash!dbarber
INET: dbarber@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke)
Subject: Monorail FAQ
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:10:37 GMT


Can someone email me the monorail FAQ please??  I prefer this address:
rdorocke@ucs.indiana.edu    

Thanks in Advance!!

Rob
From: heiss@gdc.com (Mark Heiss)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Thurl Ravenscroft
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:58:17 GMT
Reply-To: heiss@gdc.com
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

Oops!! I remember where Thurl Ravenscroft's voice was in the old
Country Bear Jamboree - and it wasn't as Big Al! It was as one of those
mounted animal heads located above the door! Buff maybe???

Sorry for the confusion.

I wonder if his voice is in the Vacation Hoedown show as well?

Mark.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner)
Subject: Re: stuff...the secrets?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 06:06:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.201911.6572@gw.wmich.edu> 31babik@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <Bxzxs9.7L0@news.udel.edu>, avril@chopin.udel.edu (April Christi Clark) writes:
>> 
>> p.s. whine whine whine-- i had a copy of the aladdin soundtrack ordered
>> but i am told they cannot sell it to me until the official date of release     
>> (tuesday).  8:( 
>
>
>Wow!  Sucks to be you!  I've had the soundtrack for almost 2 weeks 
>now....*gloat*gloat*gloat*
>
>:)
 I've had mine since mid-August. So there. *gloat*gloat*gloat*   
 (though I have to wait to see the film until Wednesday!!)

-Denise
********
"If you can't say something nice....don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

"Get with the beat, Baggy!" -Baloo
From: kristinat@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Al & Speed Racer:  Separated at Birth?
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:58:55 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

Saw Aladdin in a Sneak Preview at the Buena Park Mall, across from
Knott's Berry Farm (dangerously close to enemy lines!) on 11/14.  
I had a great time, but I was really distracted at times by the
animation of Aladdin's character.  It's pretty uninspired and not
up to the standards of even their last two films (which, in turn,
do not measure up to most of the older films).  I realize most of
this is due to schedules and budgets (do we really want to wait
10 years while they produce something on par with Pinoccio or Bambi?),
and stuff.  And I think the special effects they achieved (the Cave of Wonders,
the Stone Lion, etc.) were astounding.  It's just that Aladdin was
extremely flat and almost featureless.  In fact, both he and Jasmine
looked a little like characters out of Speed Racer. Other than that,
fantastic movie!

Little Pine Weasel
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: riouxp@rs6210.ecs.rpi.edu (Peter Joseph Rioux)
Subject: Re: Aladdin (good, but some problems)
Reply-To: riouxp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:00:17 GMT

if you think that these were bad backgrounds... what did you think of 101 dalmations...?  and speaking of scenes with no backgrounds... there were a few in the little mermaid.... as in the scene where her father destroys the grotto... the close up on her face has no background... and in ursula's place.. with all of the changing colors... no background....but that was to heighten the effect... and show the main characters more prominently... 

granted... i haven't seen all of aladdin yet, but i have seen most of it... or at lest a third.. and i haven't seen anything that was too bad... waht did you think of the fountain scene?  

SQUID
(riouxp@rpi.edu)
From: kriss@mcl.ucsb.edu (Kristin Boyce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The Disney Stores List!
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:59:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.kriss.721976367
Distribution: na

There is one in La Cumbre Shopping Center in Santa Barbara, CA that I did
not see on the list.....
thought you'd like to know
kriss
kriss@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu
From: billy@irvine.com (* Bouncer **)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Thurl Ravenscroft
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:37:03 GMT
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA


>From: heiss@gdc.com (Mark Heiss)
>Subject: Thurl Ravenscroft
>Message-ID: <628@esun179.gdc.com>
>Date: 11 Nov 92 16:01:44 GMT
>
>In addition to Thurl Ravenscroft's various renditions for Disney ("Grim
>Grinning Ghosts", and *I think* miscellaneous pirate characters in POTC),
>and the Tony-the-Tiger "They're GRRRRREAT!" role, and the previously mentioned
>singer in the Grinch special, I know of a few more appearances;
>In addition to Thurl Ravenscroft's various renditions for Disney ("Grim
>Grinning Ghosts", and *I think* miscellaneous pirate characters in POTC),
>and the Tony-the-Tiger "They're GRRRRREAT!" role, and the previously mentioned
>singer in the Grinch special, I know of a few more appearances;
>
>2) Can anyone think of any other roles or appearances by Mr. Ravenscroft?
>   In particular - what other Disney rides or attractions use his voice?

Doesn't Thurl Ravenscroft also do the narrator voice for the Train that circles
the park (at least the one at Disneyland, CA).  

Trivia:  Given the length of track that the Disney Train has traveled over the
         past 30(?) years, approximately how manys times (according to the
         narration soundtrack) could the Train have encircled the globe?

-- Billyb
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: avril@chopin.udel.edu (April Christi Clark)
Subject: stuff...the secrets?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:00:09 GMT

hey Aladdin or whoever is right, walt.disney.com exists but one cannot check who is on it or what it is. ??? is someone high up condemning me for my
nosiness at this very moment??

Hey, is anyone a fan of Philippe, the horse in Batb? There is a small 
following of Philippe here. Interest? Write me.
--April (avril@chopin.udel.edu

p.s. whine whine whine-- i had a copy of the aladdin soundtrack ordered
but i am told they cannot sell it to me until the official date of release     
(tuesday).  8:(
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Hoop-Dee-Doo
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:03:48 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Sat 21 Nov 92 11:53, Power@iscsvax.uni.edu wrote:

 P> My wife wants to know if the Hoop-Dee-Doo review is worth the cost. 
 P> The guides
 P> seem to push this dinner show and it'll cost our family $90 for the
 P> evening....

 P> We will be at DisneyWorld for 4 days Dec 21-25.  We have a 5 and 7
 P> year old...

Daniel, my wife and I saw the Hoop-Dee-Doo for the first time this past
September and wholeheartedly recommend it to you and your family, as well
as to couples without children.  It is much fun and includes good food (all
you can eat) and all you can drink (sangria, beer, or non-alcoholic
beverages for adults, and non-alcoholic drinks for the kids).  We enjoyed
the show very much and would go back to see it again.

Make your reservation as early as you can -- your seats are assigned when
you make a reservation, and the people who did it first sit up front while
those  who reserved their seats later sit further and further back (as each
show's assigned seats get taken through the reservation system).  While it
is sometimes possible to see a show without a reservation (especially in
the off season), you will not have the good seats that you would have
gotten if you had reserved your seats.

I hope you go -- I know you'll enjoy it!



-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Internet: rich_koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
    UUCP: rex!agwbbs!rich_koster
From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Aladdin's Sound Effects.
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:56:24 GMT
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University


After my second time watching Aladdin, and this time at a better movie
theater, I noticed that Disney made better use of the surround effects
(and not to mention the superb blend of computer animation and normal
animation) in this movie, when compared to TLM or BatB. Maybe it's
just because Aladdin has more action scenes. Anyone else noticed this?


        farul ghazali.
        columbia university in the city of new york.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: more Disney-bashing, Simpsons style
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:31:43 GMT

Some more Disney satire:

	Fractured Fairy Tales (Rocky and Bullwinkle)
		Sleeping Beauty
			A Walt Disney-like prince arrives and turns the 
			princess into a tourist attraction.  This is on video.

	Tiny Toons
		There was a spoof of the Sorceror's Apprentice with Buster
		fooling around with Bugs' cartoon collection.

Enjoy!

Torsten at Omaha
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Sneak Preview--this weekend
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:58:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <5742@sumax.seattleu.edu> kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Kevin Kiuchi ) writes:
>
>   One thing to keep in mind is that this is the last full length feature movie
>Disney's going to do by their regular drawing board artists (or something)..
>after this i hear they are going to do most of it by computer. Does anyone know
>much about this?

I'd keep that in mind if I believed it.  If they're to completely
abandon the drawing board, it'll quite some time from now.  They use
computers to do final clean-up and painting for every "cel" setup
nowadays, but the characters are still hand-animated.  Computer
animation is simply too limited in some respects (like complex
character personality) at the current state of the art.  Disney
could pioneer it, I suppose, but I think some other companies have
beaten them to it. :-)  Disney is going to distribute Pixar's attempt
at feature-length computer animation.  FYI, to my knowledge, Pixar
has not yet begun animating the project at this time; and they
really *hate* rumors.


- Robert Cook