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Subject: Re: Punk Mailing List???? Help!!!
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 16:32:38 -0500 
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>I posted the address to the punk mailing list a few days ago, but I'm always
>glad to do so again. The address is:
> 
>punk-list@cs.tut.fi
> 
>just write a brief message saying you want to subscribe and you'll be on.
>Cheers.

Most certainly DO NOT do that.  Try sending it to:

punk-list-request@cs.tut.fi

NOTHING pisses the people on the punk list (and rightfully so) as much
as people sending administrative stuff to the main list address instead
of the request address.  It really is simple.  With virtually every
mailing list, you send administrative stuff (sign-ons, sign-offs, etc)
to 

whatever-request@who.cares.where

and any submissions intended for the list in general to

whatever@who.cares.where

Also, please note that the punk list has jokingly little discussion of
actual punk music.  It is just a huge, boring stupid flamewar that makes
things like talk.abortion look pleasant (well, not really, but you get
the idea).  Really quite a waste of time.  Don't bother, unless you
actually like watching four or five people flame each other and spew
non-sequitors.

Joshua Buergel - allroy+@cmu.edu - jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bill Pritchard ? !!!!!!!!!? !!
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:05:43 GMT
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Nov10.051943.6583@news2.cis.umn.edu> olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe) writes:
>
>Oke..if anyone in the UK or Europe has any info about what Bill is
>doing right now ? Please pass on..i might be the only person to
>know bill pritchard..but..well..Just Look at Bill's last CD cover
>and inside pictures , ( by anton corbijn ) , and you will all understand
>where REM got their Inside-pictures-on-AFTP from. Gosh. Everything
>just look alike !!! Does anyone know if bill is signed on any US label
>( i dont think so ) ..people you dont know what you are missing...
>
>O.

  I'm wondering when _Joliet_ will get a domestic release.   K!z!K
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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: who did "Satan" song ?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:41:34 GMT

In article <MOCK.92Nov10125609@watt.support.Corp.Sun.COM> mock@watt.support.Corp.Sun.COM (Joseph Mocker) writes:
>
>Does any know the name of, or who did a song that
>has some lyrics like:
>
>
>	And Son, when your Mother comes home tell her
>	SATAN! SATAN! ...
>
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>--joe


Orbital.  

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From: killer@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francis J Park)
Subject: Re: What WIRE album is...
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:33:17 GMT

"Eardrum Buzz" is from 'It's Beginning To And Back Again.'
Ya missed it by one album.  'A Bell Is A Cup Until It Is Struck' is okay, but
not really exceptional.


-- 
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From: anderson@scs.unt.edu (Richard Anderson (Lab 3460))
Subject: Smiths/Morrisey Mailing list
Keywords: Smiths, Morrisey, Mailing List, Help!
Organization: School of Community Service, UNT
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:44:35 GMT

I know I've seen them posted recently, but I can't find them.  What are the 
addresses for joining the Smiths and Morrisey mailing lists.  Please e-mail 
the addresses to me, I don't get to read this group as often as I'd like.

Thanx in advance,

-- rich --
_____________________________________________________________________________
Rich Anderson                          |
Dept. of Unsubstantiated Rumors        |    Ignorance is bliss......
   and Inuendo                         |
University of North Texas              |    Bon Appitite.
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From: arebold@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: Names for Band Names
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:30:55 GMT
Organization: Clark University

I don't know 'em all, but I DO remember him rattling off:
 Sexual Chocolate
  Young youth
Old youth
childish youth
deformed youth
angry youth
bush youth
fetal implosions
chocolate fetus
the Fred Flinstone Razors
no future
syphillis (and any other VD you can think of)
Babs Bush has AIDS
etc.
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From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Re: Wool
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:15:16 GMT

feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit) writes:
> Who are Wool?  I missed them here last night, though I remember
> hearing something about them several months ago which made them sound
> interesting....  
> 
> it might have been that they opened for L7, or some such...
> 
> any info? what do they sound like?
> 
> Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
>  Day old days ancient bloody mary bastards
>  in a hardcore blue collar bar.
>  here we sit a shot and a beer after a hard-earned day.    X
First off, I have heard a little bit of Wool before and they rock.  I
was wondering if you saw the show at the Scrapyard and who else played
the show.  I'm sure the show was great, because i saw Scream when the
were still around and they had a lot of energy.
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From: 002519m@ace.acadiau.ca (KRISTIAN AARON MACCALL)
Subject: What WIRE album is...
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:07:16 GMT

I want to know what the name of the album that "Ear Drum Buzz" is from.  I'
ve seen some of the others, but when I look on the list of songs, it's never 
there (so obviously I'm not looking at the right album.)

Muchly appreciated!
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From: rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,2730428)
Subject: Re: Kitten
Originator: rob@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:37:46 GMT

JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu:

>Does anyone out there know anything about a band called Kitten? I think it was
>Kim Gordon's (of Sonic Youth) old band or something.  Do they have an album? I
>was just curious.

Kitten is one of Kim Gordon's current side-projects, with Julia Cafritz
(sp?) who was in Pussy Galore.  They've played a bunch of live shows,
including CBGB's in NYC, but they have yet to release anything on vinyl,
although I'd expect a single on Ecstatic Peace any time now.

Rob

-- 

Rob Vaughn, Fugitive Systems Guy
Mat. Sci. Center Computing, Cornell University
rob@msc.cornell.edu - rob@crnlmsc2.bitnet
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From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Syd Barrett/Soup Dragons
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:28:27 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Nov5.153153.15214@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:

> 
>This is what I know and think to be correct, though any true Floyd fan will 
>know the truth better than I. Syd didn't necessarily fry his brain with drugs,
>his friends did it to him. There's a difference. His "friends" had been putting
>acid in his coffee like everyday for a while and he was wigging out,but he 
>didn't know any better cuz he had no idea that they were doing it. 

This is not true.


See, acid
>can take a normally non-creative person and make them creative, but if you 
>give it to someone like Barret, who's a creative genius, it really sends them 
>over the top. 


This is also not true, and it indicates that you know very little about
LSD.

Chances are, Barrett would have wigged out eventually anyway, and all the
LSD he took (on his own initiative), probably only accelerated it. 

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From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: oingo boingo
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:28:54 GMT
Organization: UB

sammy@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Samuel Larson UCLA Astronomy) writes:
>If there is any wishful thinking, it is on Elfman's part.  2 weeks ago,
>during a live interview on radio station KROQ, he stated that he was
>retiring from film scoring.  FYI.


I vaguely remember him saying the same thing about the time he did Darkman or
Dick Tracy. Can anybody back me up on this? 

>sammy


Gerson Koenig
gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu
finally found a .sig
From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs on Tour?
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:45:52 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

10,000 Maniacs tour dates

	November 8 Atlanta
	 	9 Orlando
		 10 Ft. Lauderdale
		11 St. Petersburg
		13 Richmond
		14 Charlottesville
		15 Raleigh
		17 Washington DC
		18 Delaware
		20 New York
		21 New Brunswick
		22 Boston
		24 Toronto
		28 Detroit
		29 Chicago
		30 Minneapolis
       Dec.	 2 St. Louis
		 3 Kansas City
		 5 Dallas
		 6 Houston
		 7 Austin
		10 San Diego
		11 L.A.
		12 Berkeley
		19 Vancouver


Nuno
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Levellers -- Any fans?
Organization: Clark University
Date: 6 NOV 92 00:02:04 GMT

i heard that their followers in europe are called crusties
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: LOVE BATTERY!!!!!!
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:56:28 -0500 
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>   Hi, this is my first post, and I was wondering if anyone else enjoys
>this band? I have their "Between the Eyes" cd and was wondering if their
>other one was good, also.....
>    Plus, are they having any new albums/singles coming out? Tour date info? 

_Dayglo_ is excellent.  One of the better albums to come out this past
year, although it didn't really do much for me at first.  This is the
sort of band that you have to listen to albums of, instead of just
singles.  Anyway, they play 'grunge' (there's that word) heavily
influenced by psychedelia.  The rhythm section is solid enough that the
guitars can kind of float around doing their own thing.  Add that to
some good solid songwriting, and you've got an excellent album.  Highly
recommended.

Joshua Buergel - allroy+@cmu.edu - jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein)
Subject: Re: stiff little fingers: what to get
Organization: swarthmore college
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:18:25 GMT

In article <2218@sdrc.COM>, festeve@sdrc.COM (Steve Saunders) writes:
> 

> Now, to quit rambling and get to my question: I would like info about
> _stiff little fingers_, and which releases people think would
> be my best bet (and of course names of any other bands that fall
> into this class).
> 
> Thanks fellow hardcore-heads
> Steve 
>  
Ah, at last somebody with a posting about the greatest band in the history
of the universe.  The very best SLF record is in fact called "All The Best"
(a phrase from their song "Wait and See").  It's a double album collection
of all their singles and b-sides, and is my favorite release ever.  Period.
 My one sure desert island disc.  All their other records (before their
reunion) are great too and worth picking up despite some duplication with
"All the Best."  Given the bands you mention above, I think you'd probably
like "Inflammable Material", their first album, the best, since it has
their hardest, most angry sound.  In addition to faves like "Alternative
Ulster" and "Suspect Device", it contains the song "White Noise", which I
think lyrically and musically is the single most amazing testimony to the
power of punk rock.  It's the closest they ever got to hardcore. 

"Nobody's Heroes" and "Go For It" are also great albums, with no filler,
but they're branching out in a more pop-oriented direction. Still
brilliant--melodic and powerful, if no longer one continuous blast of fury.
Their final studio album "Now Then...(or was it Now This?...) is the
weakest of the bunch, but still has some great stuff on it, including a
tremendous cover of the reggae classic "Love of the Common People" (also
covered by Paul Young, I think).  Their first live album "Hanx!" is the one
I listen to least, but is also fine, as is their Peel Session EP. 

Enjoy! And if you ever get a chance to see them live, go.  They might be a
little older, but the energy is still there.

Stephen
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From: fern@camelot.bradley.edu (Jill Rosencrans)
Subject: Re: Cowboy junkies ?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:23:38 GMT

In <1992Nov12.190148.13282@midway.uchicago.edu> acw4@quads.uchicago.edu ("The Wan-ster") writes:

>I've heard of the band but not really any of their music until
>I heard them do a cover of Lou Reed's "Sweet Jane."
>and loved it!  Is this "typical" of the kinds of songs they sing?
>What are some good albums?  

	the album that you will find "Sweet Jane" on is _The Trinity Session_,  which is an excellent album, and should be found in just about any major record chain. Others to buy include:
	Whites Off Earth Now (rerelease of their earliest album)
	The Caution Horses
	Black Eyed Man

	all of these are excellent albums, each with a similar, but distinct     sound. The junkies are one of my personal favorites and i had the chance to 
see them in concert just about 2 years ago in milwaukee. they are made up of
three Timmins siblings, Margo, Peter, and Michael and Alan Anton. In concert 
they usually play with a larger group of people, playing varied instruments.
The junkies concert was one of the best i've seen to this day.
	Incidentally, at an earlier concert at Alpine Valley, Margo stopped in
the middle of Sweet Jane when she admitted to the audience that she forgot the 
words...in was rather amusing, even hearing about it secondhand.
	Great band...go out and get the albums. Hopefully they'll be out with
another soon.

					jill 

>--  
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From: buccidv@expert.cc.purdue.edu (david bucci)
Subject: Re:Screaming Trees
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:15:08 GMT


BUY THEIR ALBUMS!!!

enough said.
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rave
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 21:54:30 -0500 
From: Colin John Brodsky <cb4n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto / Orbital / Ultramarine
Distribution: world,local

Well, I only know one of the three groups mentioned - Meat Beat Manifesto.

I have two of their albums, and they're really cool.  A lot of sythesized stuff, and hard rhythm.  I wouldn't call it techno, however.  There's a ton of bass, sampling, and it has a very driving feel.  If you want to find a good album, 99%
is worth getting.  It's really cool, and it's rather easy to find.  I also
have a double album (yes, I still buy vinyl - great bass, and it's cheap) that'scalled Storm The Studio.  This is really weird, but I like it.  However, it's 
sort of one big mess of stuff that doesn't sound like a typical album.  So, 
that's about all I know to say - oh - I think they're German or Dutch, but I'm
not sure on that.  So, if you can get hold of 99%, get it if you like this type
of music.

Colin Brodsky
Carnegie Mellon University

-One other thing - what is orbital like?  Since they're at the same concert,
I might like their stuff too.  Thanks!
From: bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: re:sugarcubes breakup
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:31:15 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology



Supposedly they were, but have now taken on the support slot on U2's 
U.S. tour......(i think...)
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From: saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure)
Subject: Smashing Pumpkins's album
Reply-To: saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:40:32 GMT


   Well, I followed the advise of this newsgroup and bought the album "Gish"
from Smashing Pumpkins. You were all right, it's excellent. 

PS: Sorry about the Seattle crack, I've learned my lesson.

-- 

 Signed,                 "You must never sleep, never daydream,
   Roch Saumure.             never be without a vital thought and
                                never have an open mind, then you shall
                                   be protected from the forces of Magic."


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From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro)
Subject: Names for Band Names
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:28:09 GMT

Could someone compile and post Jello Biafra's list of band names (I don't have 
the No More Cocoons album anymore), perhaps even including the ones he added on
his recent tour?
     thanks,
          kristoff
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From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
Subject: Re: faith healers
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:18:15 GMT
Originator: berntr@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


In article <1dhd2nINNaha@agate.berkeley.edu>, jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.184347.21890@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> lucchesi@iris611.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rob Lucchesi) writes:
> >Can anyone tell me about The Faith Healers?   What kind of music .... 
> >background info ... anything.
> 
> I just got their _lido_ album yesterday. They are lead by a female
> vocalist that sounds like PJ harvey at times. They are a little heavier
> than Stereolab, but it's the same type of music. I haven't listen it to
> enough to formulate an opionion.
> 
> >
> >Thanks
> >Rob
> >-- 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jack B Huynh
> jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu
> 
> =[:-)


  The Faith Healers is a british band, they have taken over
where Pixies left. They have since 1990 released 4 EPs and one
album. I'll post their discography whenever I get around to type 
it...

  No wonder you think there are similarities between PJ Harvey,
Stereolab and Th' Faith Healers. They all release records on the
small english label Too Pure.

So, for all who think Pixies was best during their Come On Pilgrim
to Doolittle - era:  Give Th' Faith Healers a try! The new EP
"Mr. Litnanski" has just arrived in the shops, it's not their
best but it's an easy start for new listeners.

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From: troth@athena.mit.edu (LeaAnn Collins)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins lyrics - please
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:13:49 GMT

These were sent to me by Tom Homulka after I sent him my 
interpretation of "Song to the Siren".  He said that he
got some of the lyrics from the back of the Garlands album
and figured the rest out on his own (so don't blame me for
the "the then" stuff  :)

Shallow then Halo

Rain water
Faded river
Dirty rich soil
Strong and fertile

The then shallow she
Earth as we know it
The then hallow she
Sky for the sacred

Stars in my eyes
Stars at my feet
Womb in the belly
Capital place


The weirded thing is that is really does sound pretty clear now...

---LeaAnn Collins
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: "Sprockets" theme?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:58:20 GMT
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Nov4.111751.27184@mic.ucla.edu> sammy@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Samuel Larson UCLA Astronomy) writes:
>it is indeed Kraftwerk.  The song is called "Electric Cafe", off of the
>Electric Cafe album in 1987.  However, SNL plays the song way too fast.
>It's like they played the album at 45 RPM or something...
>
>sammy
>

  Actually, it's EXACTLY the album being played on 45 RPM!

                                                    K!z!K
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NoMeansNo
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:56:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <MezMsu600WBOQ3BHpo@andrew.cmu.edu>, dz22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel L. Zabell) writes:
> "Rob Wright (bassist/singer) apparently sometimes does solo gigs as
> 'Mr. Wrong'."
> 
> Is my memory playing games with me, or was Rob Wright in Crass?
> 
> 
> Dan


No.  Cybil Right was the bassist for Crass.  Most of their names were meant as 
a joke, Cybil Right as in Civil Right, Steve Ignorant was the singer, and the 
drummer was Elvis something I forget.  Oh well, I can look an an album if ya 
really want to know...
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From: Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: Big Black!!
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:13:26 GMT

In article <aldavi01.721543990@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> writes:
>NNNYYAAAARRRRHHHHGGGG!!!!!
>
>Just got "RICH MAN'S EIGHT TRACK".  I FUCKING LOVE IT!!
>
>I'd had "Songs About Fucking" for about a year and a half.  Couldn't find BB
>ANYWHERE.  Apparently they just rereleased a bunch of stuff on a different
>label, and a friend bought RMET and another by them.  Yowza!!
>
>So, what's the latest and greatest about them??  Are they still "alive"?
>Will they ever do another album, will they ever [shudder in ecstacy] _tour_?

Big Black have come and gone. Steve Albini is now an un-fucking-believably
successful producer (he's produced at least half of your favorite
grunge/hard prog. records... whenever they refer to "produced by some guy
in his basement" it's often him.) Yes, their entire back catalogue has
just been re-released by Touch'n'Go, along with a live LP _Pig Pile_ which
I've heard is OK if not fantastic. But you can't lose with about any Big
Black record. Tools you can trust, power when you need it most, from Chicago's
finest forges. :)

--
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