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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Re: ALL: Nighttime Programs (was Re: Life Goes On)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 16:27:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: na
Keywords: Update (Sept. 20)

In article <1992Sep23.132227.9212@cs.ucf.edu> csa@engr.ucf.edu (Carolyn Anderson) writes:

>Does anybody else think that there should be a separate group or
>subgroup for the discussion of these nighttime programs that
>people keep insisting are soaps?  

Well, if you decide not to allow Homefront, 90210, Life Goes On, etc., then
you should kick out Dynasty, Knot's Landing, etc if you want to be consistent.

One of the things I always liked about this group was its overall niceness
and patience with new posters, in general. I think that may be part of why
the people who post about the shows in question here, wish to do so (and
because they consider them soaps). I am sure no one was intending to impose
something that didn't belong.

I personally am not interested in most of the controversial "night-time
soaps" (or not, depending on your point of view ;-), but I am in favor of
"allowing" them here because I can see calling them soaps and I believe in
extending the generosity that was extended to me. It shouldn't be too hard
to set up abbreviations for the shows, just as we did for all the other soaps.
I am sure there will be occasional mistakes, but how many times have we seen
posts where someone forgot to include the soap abbreviation, say from
AMC, YR, and ATWT (for some examples I've seen more frequently).

Peace in rats for '92!

Ellen
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 17:24:45 -0400 
From: Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: AMC: I don't know...

>Remember that Dim got a letter from Budapest about some unfinished (my
mind has
>drawn a complete blank, I can't remember the name of Erica's company)'s 
>business. I think they must have thrown that in to have some justification for
>her to go. Hellga brought the letter saying she thought it might be urgent.

Okay, I never knew about this.  But, at the risk of sounding stupid, I
still don't get it.  Does Erica have an Enchantment office in Budapest?

-Jenn

P.S.  Sorry to be so horribly nitpicky, but if Erica has an office in
Budapest, when did she have time to set it up?  As I remember, she had
to send Ceara all the way to London when she wanted to set up an office
there.
From: csa@engr.ucf.edu (Carolyn Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: notice to all.... sub-groups
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:42:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: engineering, University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <3N6TRB6w165w@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US> steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

>Secondly, the routine to go thru to create newsgroups is not trivial.  It takes
>at least three months.  As I recall, the steps are similar to below:
>
>1.   A Request For Discussion (RFD) must be filed on news.groups.  The RFD
>     must include a charter for the proposed new groups.  The charter states
>     what kind of traffic will be allowed and whether or not the group will
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     be moderated.

Hmmm, can anyone post the original charter of r.a.t.s.?  Or direct me to where
it might be stored?  Also, it might be enlightening to see the charter
for r.a.t.  Those two 'documents' could end this whole discussion.


Carolyn
From: lhess@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Leah Surber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Stuff
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:44:46 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

<1992Oct4.134807.11086@athena.mit.edu>
Reply-To: lhess@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Leah Surber)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC
Keywords: 

In article <1992Oct4.134807.11086@athena.mit.edu> ritat@athena.mit.edu (Rita
Tendolkar) writes:
>>Does Roger suspect that Bridget is pregnant?  He looked at her
>>a little funny at the station; I'm predicting that he'll figure
>>it all out and nail Billy with the truth.
>
>
>Yeah but Bridget is carrying his grandchild. He will nail her to the wall for
>hiding this info. He will ruin her life. The poor thing should have an
abortion
>while she still can!
>
>-RT


I don't know - Roger seems to have the capacity to forgive almost anything for
blood relatives.  Especially if Hart finds out about the baby and decides to
come back.  Then he will start feeling the family way and marry Bridget. 
After all he "couldn't possibly let his child grow up without a father like he
dod".  Any of course Bridget (with dollar signs in her eyes) will convince
Hart to make up with his father "for the sake of the baby".  


BUT PLEASE --- GET A NEW HART!!!!
-- 
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From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Spoilers and News
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:12:03 GMT

Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira (I can't improve on that!) wrote:
>
>Heck, this is the second time NBC has pulled the plug on what was currently
>the soap I enjoyed most.  I never have really gotten over the fact that NBC
>cancelled Texas, and I still end up watching the last 5 episodes of that show
>once  a year.
>

Ah Ruby!  *Sigh*  I still dream of Ruby.

Oh speaking of Texas, we have some intimate photos of our honeymoon 10 years
ago.  We are sitting in the little cabin in front of the tube, showing,
clearly, a scene from Texas.  Okay, so we weren't the most exciting
couple...

"Duhh, teehee, wanna watch some TV?  The Soaps are on."
"Yup!  Teehee, and uhhhh let's do it in our BARE FEET!"
"OOOOOOOHHhhhh  Yup Yup!  Teeheee"

What did she and you do on your honeymoon, Tim?

-Rick.
-- 
Rick Morris                            Email:  rick@sadtler.com
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia   -But I speak for myself
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: lbrother@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Larry Brothers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R - Ashley
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:22:01 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <1992Sep29.140845.19141@dmntor.UUCP> toni@dmntor.UUCP (Toni Spurgeon) writes:
>
>Soap Opera Weekly has an interview with Brenda Epperson, who
>plays Ashley... The big quote over her picture says:
>
>
>"I never really think about what I want to do with Ashley...
>I'm not a writer... I'm barely an actress"!!!
>
>I thought this was truly hilarious!
>Toni

Toni, you made my day.  Thank you!

Larry
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: mgtaylor@eos.ncsu.edu (Mary Molly G Taylor)
Subject: Re: OLTL: Update for Friday, 10/2
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:58:14 GMT

In article <BvnM2z.sA@news.udel.edu> dcannon@bach.udel.edu (Debbie Cannon) writes:
>
>A show filled with analogies, a desperate man, and a bombshell
>that falls right in the middle of the living room at Llanfair!
>
>Hail, Hail the Gang's All Here
>Subtitled: Two Analogies and A Bomb
>===================================
>A lot of the action takes place at Llanfair. First up, Asa,
>Clint, Viki, and Kevin. Clint and Asa are congratulating Kevin
>on his victory. Viki enters and gets sarcastic with the macho
>Buchanan gang. Viki tells her oldest son that she had hoped he
>would act like the decent, compassionate son that she had raised.
>She again lets it be known that she is not happy with how Kevin
>is treating Lee Ann. She is concerned about Lee Ann's parental
>rights, but Kevin assures her that everything has been taken care
>of.

How come Viki doesn't throw in the fact that Clint is not Kevin's
biological father?  They way they've been acting lately, I would be
constantly throwing that in everyone's face!


-- 
MaryMolly G. Taylor
mgtaylor@eos.ncsu.edu	|	Applied Energy Research Laboratory
(919) 515-5240		|	Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering Dept.
Fax:  (919) 515-7968	|	North Carolina State University
From: crl0195@hertz.njit.edu (Curt R Lindmark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Was I dreaming?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:42:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: crl0195@hertz.njit.edu

I know this sounds REALLY wierd, but I can't quite remember if I dreamt this,
heard it in my sleep, or what.  Anyway, for some reason I was under the
impression that Jack Wagner had died in a car accident, and writers were
scrambling for a way to write Warren out of SB.  Am I losing my mind
completely, or is there (sadly) some truth to my delusions?

Hoping I am wrong...

O========|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|========0
 Curt R Lindmark      crl0195@hertz.njit.edu         Defender from ages past
Disclaimer: NJIT is responsible for nothing I don't say which isn't mine.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:44:04 EDT
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TOMS HAIR and Erica & NewNat's hair
Distribution: na
 <19vk25INN50v@male.EBay.Sun.COM>

In article <19vk25INN50v@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM (Mary
Smith) says:
>
>Excuse me if this has been posted I'm behind!
>
>But didn't Tom's hair look a lot darker than before???
>I don't remember his hair being jet black?
>
I noticed that too.  I also thought on Friday Erica's hair
looked lighter than normal, it was more like light to medium
brown.  I alway thought she had was very dark brown hair.
I could have been the lighting making it appear to be lighter.

NewNat's hair seems to be 2 different colors of blond.  At
roots its more white while 3-4 inches back it's more gold/yellow.
At least on Friday someone brushed her hair for her and got
her out of that bad!!!!!
>
>
>Also Brian was making me sick making it sound like
>nothing Hayley is going through is his fault.
>
>I mean I wouldn't be hurt if my boyfriend had to have
>one last roll in the hay before he came back to me to tell
>me I was his only true love (-:
>Not to mention walking in almost on it.
>
>And Dixie......
>she is beginning to make me sick.
>Brian's young so we expect him to be not so smart
>but she is just playing a manipulative roll
>
>
Ditto on both Brian and Dixie.

Joni Snyder

>MKS
From: netnews@porthos.cc.bellcore.com (USENET System Software)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Erica's & Angelique's Hair
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:55:25 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <UelRLT_00aw_ELqEtC@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> Maybe Erica lightened her hair as a reaction to Angelique's
> ever-darkening hair.  Has anyone noticed how similar their hair colors
> were getting?I liked Angelique's hair much better when she was blonde.
>    -Jenn
From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
I think blonde might be her natural color, it does look better.
I think Angelique's mother cuts her bangs.  My mother
always cut mine way too short.  I called it 
The Mamie Eisenhower look. 
                                *********************
Deb                             Since I gave up hope,
                                I feel much better.
                                *********************
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon)
Subject: Re: ATWT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:04:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.201815.7873@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.174404.3636@news.stolaf.edu>, kriesel@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel) writes:
>> 
>> I could have died (not literally) when Seth and Valerie walked into that
>> CoffeeShop where MHH and the therapist (she needs a nickname!) were.  It
>> would be so easy for Seth to see MHH, but of course you know that he won't.
>> (ref. above paragraph.)
>> 
>> At any rate, I have to go to class now.  Hasta...
>> 
>> Special K
>> 



>Who's Valerie???????

Valerie is Valerie Simon, Neditor's wife. Does anyone else think that 
something is going on with Seth and Valerie. If that is the case then he
had a lot of nerve coming down so hard on Enema when he found out about
her and Neditor. But that's the Snyder men for you. Judgemental about 
everyone's lives but their own.


>Thanks,
>RiBabe

Irish
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From: 20676DOC@MSU.EDU ("Darren.Meahl")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC  Sighting
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:24:00 GMT

I'm a month behind in reading r.a.t.s, so ignore this if it has already been
discussed.... 8^)

Sharla (forgot her real name) is a regular on a Fox show called "Martin".  She
is good, as usual (I always liked her on AMC).  She plays the best friend of
the female lead.  It is on here Thursday nights at 8:30 following the
Simpsons.

Darren Meahl
Michigan STate U.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: DOOL:TAN: Spoilers and News
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:08:40 GMT
Organization: Boo!  

In <92274.191759NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET (Nelson Broat) writes:
>Speaking of Uncle Dorky and Auntie Doldrums, did you guys know that
>Santa Barbara (my *new* other soap) is officially getting the axe :-( on
>January 15th? NBC can babble all they want about how its just the
>fact that the ratings are low, but thats a bunch of bull. NBC if they
>wanted to, *could* get the affiliates to continue to carry it. The real reason
>SB is getting canned is because of Auntie Doldrums, WHO OWNS NBC!!! - this was
>part of the deal that allowed her to come back to DAYS. All that bloody money
>they gave her is destroying DOOL, and all that blind faith that Susan Lee
>(in reality a wind up Barbie Doll toy of Auntie Dearest's) has in her acting
>capabil... *cough cough cough cough cough cough cough* excuse me a sec...

Uh, Nelson ... I think you need to calm down.  Just a bit.  First, NBC
can't force their affiliates to air their shows - heck, in some cases,
they can't even force the stations they actually own to air their shows.
But more to the point, NBC could create the greatest soap in the world,
and it still wouldn't succeed.  Soap viewers, as a whole, are a very
loyal bunch, and it is near impossible to get them to switch shows (just
look at all the people here still watching DAYS despite the fact that they
hate it).  The only new soap which has succeeded in the past 16 years
is Bold and the Beautiful, and the only reason that succeeded was that
CBS sandwiched it inbetween two shows that were already very succesful. 
ABC has been unable to make Loving succesful, at least partly because the
network has been unwilling to risk moving their succesful shows.  And even
if NBC was willing to try that approach, they couldn't - NBC doesn't have
any succesful soaps at this point.  NBC Daytime is an unmitigated disaster
for the network, and it just keeps getting worse, not better.

Heck, this is the second time NBC has pulled the plug on what was currently
the soap I enjoyed most.  I never have really gotten over the fact that NBC
cancelled Texas, and I still end up watching the last 5 episodes of that show
once  a year.  And I also had to mourn The Doctors and Edge of Night,
especially the latter (Note: No non-ABC soap I've ever watched has survived.
What that means for DOOL I don't know.  If I want it to stay on the air,
I better stop watching), and later Ryan's Hope.

By the way, NBC is planning to replace SB and the Dr. Dean show with some
game shows for an hour and they'll give the other half hour back to their
affiliates.  Then, after they've decided the game shows have failed,
probably around June, they'll add another soap, which will last 3 years 
and then be cancelled and replaced by some game shows.

Greg "But Will The Network Hire Me" Spira  

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Subject: Re: AMC  Sighting
Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:35:21 GMT

J.D.Tilander (jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com) wrote:
: I saw Kim Delaney (ex-Jenny) on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.  
: Was flippingchannels and there she was...on the island of Lanai 
: with husband (who appeared to be much older than her, for what it's worth...
       ^^^^^^^

Make that her 2nd husband.  Her first was Charles Flohe - Preacher 
from ex-Edge of Night (I think he still does soaps now or in the 
recent past).  I didn't realize she was married again.  Nor did
I realize she was rich and famous - guess her husband is rolling in
it?  She hasn't done enough acting since AMC to put me through one
year of school! (Just kidding!  I was a HUGE fan when 
she was on AMC.)

I was going to post about "Lady Boss" being on Sunday, but CAZ beat
me to it.  I posted a brief blurb about it from US Magazine a few
weeks ago.  Looks interesting, although Marcy Walker's movie (on
at the same time) looks better!  I was just noticing that Kim Delaney
has been cast in some of the sleaziest roles since she left AMC.
Anyone think she was trying to get away from being typecast?  Maybe
"Jenny Does the Big Apple" was more Kim's style?

Susan
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu ()
Subject: AMC: Possible Alumni sighting
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:51:59 GMT

I was watching the tube last nite and saw a commercial for
Steven Seagal's lastest flick, can't remember the title.
Anyway, it was a story about a terrorist group getting hold of
nukes and holding the world hostage etc...
The girl featured as one the main characters in the promos
looks just like Laurren Holly, ex-Julie Chandler (AMC)

Did anybody see the commercial and can confirm my sighting???

The only actors listed in the promo are Seagal and Tommy Lee Jones.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

J.R. Ordon

The views expressed here are not my employers...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: Re: AMC: A new character?
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Distribution: na
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:58:57 GMT

steph@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Stephanie Eggers) writes:

>This is just an interesting little tidbit that I picked up on while
>catching the end of Loving yesterday.  Dinah Lee Mayberry from Loving
>is coming to stay with Myrtle Fargate for a vacation from Corinth.
>When Dinah Lee first came to Loving she was pretty bad, but you know
>how that goes, she did a "Gloria Marsh" turnaround!  I guess we'll have
>to wait and see what happens.  Maybe Brian will end up with her and
>move on over to Loving!!!


Ah, but her conversion is 100% complete yet! (As witnessed by her "Ima
Ho Mayberry" responses to Clay dropping her.) 

..........posted for Beverly H.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: y&r scoop Lauran vs Sheila
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:15:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.160757.3938@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!crobshaw@cs.toronto.edu (Catharine Robshaw) writes:
>userCCAM@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (christa laydon) writes:
>
>Is it my imagination, or did they make Sheila a much more
>sympathetic character on B&B?  I find myself feeling sorry
>for her at times and hoping that she gets what she wants
>(namely Eric).  Is it just me?
>
>Catharine
>

Definitely not me. Sheila has just seemed sympathetic because she
hasn't physically threatened any life yet. She can be very cruel.
From: ams1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANN M. SCHADLER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:  TAN:  BIRTHDAY GREETINGS MISSED
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:22:15 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

OK -- Here we go - - - - - - -

     Two birthday greeting I sent out bounced back to me so since they are now
late and this is the only way I could think of to get them out -- I guess
they'll have to be a little more special -- SO --

        HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
        HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
        HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR LANCE AND JEAAAAAAAAAAAAN
        HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

        HOW OLD ARE YOUS' NOW????
        HOW OLD ARE YOUS' NOW????
        HOW OLD ARE YOUS' NOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW?
        HOW OLD ARE YOUS' NOW????

     Lance Sanders and Jean Valencia -- hope they were good ones!!!:-)))))
-- 

Ann Schadler
Vice President for
Student Affairs Office
x83890
AMS1
From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB:  Mini convention poll
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:29:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct2.192519.7426@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 22302LMK@MSU writes:
>Yes, I think a convention would be great.
>
>Traveling all depends on if hubby has a job and we can afford it, but if it
>is somewhere in the midwest no problem
>
>Lisa

I think meeting everybody would be great. I would have a hard time if I had
to travel far. I live in central New Jersey. Somewhere on the East Coast will
be good for me.

John
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: sal9e@amsun15.apma.Virginia.EDU (Stephen A. Lowe)
Subject: Re: AMC: Billy Clyde
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:18:23 GMT

>> >WE...DID...NOT...SEE...THE...BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>They did. We just never saw it so it is conceivable that he could come
>back.
>> 
>Sheri J.

At the risk of boring everybody with an addition to this subject,
WE DID SEE THE BODY!!  I remember very clearly an overhead shot
of Billy Clyde's body crumpled up on the rocky shore of the river.
Several members of the search party were arranged around it.  As
someone said earlier, "He's not only merely dead, he's most sincerely
dead."  Carter Jones may be Billy Clyde's replacement as AMC
perennial villain.  I wonder if he will conveniently disappear after
he wreaks havoc on Pine Valley and Corinth.  

Marcia unlurking from sal9e@amsun15.apma.virginia.edu