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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:21:22 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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Torkel's post reminded me of a class w/ Isidore Dyen in grad school: he
assigned an article w/ large portions in untranslated Italian and when I
complained, he told me that anyone could read Italian. This was not the
lowpoint of my sojourn into Comparative Method (=glottochronology) w/
him (that came when he accused me in public of not behaving like a lady)
but it was close.

Posted on 18 Dec 1992 at 10:36:24 by torkel@SICS.SE
>  Det ar helt enkelt sa att vem som helst kan skriva till words-l pa vilket
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                           we can write till words-l freezes
                                           over
>sprak som helst, och sa lange den som skriver och den som laser har den ratta
 ^^^^^                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the lg. of the writer or a
      speaking                                 laser bar?
>installningen framstar det skrivna och det lasta som engelska eller swahili
>eller vilket sprak som helst som alla inblandade forstar. Att du inte har
>haft nagra problem med att lasa mina inlagg - som ju alla skrivits pa
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>svenska - hanfor jag till det enkla faktum att du ar Listgudinnan och
 ^^^^^^^              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I will go             until the ankle fact of the List Goddess
write in Swedish

>forstar allt.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
will forestall me

HOW'D I DO, TORKEL??

(Note that I am shouting because Torkel is a foreigner, and they understand
English better that way!)

Well!  This was fun!!!  Exams are over!  Once I send out my Christmas cards
I can start doing grades!  I love being a goofoff!

Karen
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:36:30 GMT

bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer) writes:

>>What shall we talk about, now that the poor Internetters and Bitnetters can't

>What's this?  Is an Internetter different from a Usenetter?  Then I must
>look like a cross-eyed Venn diagram: I'm on Internet, reading words-l
>on Usenet.

Internet and Usenet are two different things, although most places that are
on the Internet offer Usenet and places just on Bitnet can't (as far as I
know) access Usenet.  Sorry for this very non-techy explanation.  I need
to log off but wanted to make the point that Internet and Usenet are not
synonymous.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:56:17 CST
From:         Frank Peters <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Water Cooled Computers
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In article <WORDS-L%92121419521964@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Tony Harminc
 <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> says:
: >
: >IBM pig iron is water cooled.  Yes, the cold water runs through their
: >innards.  Quite an impressive amount of it actuallys.  Its one of the
: >many things that make the beasts so expensive to run.
:
: Sigh.  Mainframe Myth time again.

By the way, I should point out that I never said you didn't get
anything for the money.  I do know why liquid cooling is more efficient
than convection air cooling.  Very necessary under the circumstances
but that STILL doesn't mean that it isn't expensive to run.  Whether
the expense is worth it depends upon your computing needs.

And yes, Bill Joy is a biased observer.  But then most humerous remarks
are made by biased observers.
--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:33:46 -0700
From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Christiane Amanpour

>The rain is pouring in Mississippi.  Is it dry anywhere?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Uh, um, er, ahem.  Well...  8-)

Desert Pete
(although my right [dirtbike] knee *is* giving out warning signals...)
(but how any rain could get through the Brown Cloud is beyond me!)
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:53:55 -0700
From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Ruth's Turn

Oh, but I *love* Australian Rules Football!
I don't understand one damn thing about it!
(Except for the Fosters billboard, or course...)   8->
^^
is this line noise?  It was when it left here...

John

Dan?  Is Nurse Ratchet keeping you tied down?  Hmmmmmm...kinky...
From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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Subject: Three Friends
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:24:07 GMT
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If you have not seized this gif of Karen, Karsten, and Emily, do so as
soon as practicable.  Myself, I have to wait till the weekend for this sort
of thing -- remembering all that command-line stuff, Page-Down-K, and so
forth.  (Plus, I always get stuck, and only solitude and patience can get
me out of that.)  Anyhow, 3friends.gif is worth the trouble to retrieve.
A most affecting portrait!  Black-and-white was a good choice, even if
dictated by circumstance.  If a colorized version ever becomes available,
I would be interested....

This snapshot was from Thanksgiving weekend, wasn't it?

brad
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:50:23 GMT
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>>off.<*crunch*>  He prefers squirels, but spiders are easier to catch.
>>He eats mosquitos too, sometimes.
>
>Our cat's like that too..... his favourite delicacy is 'stink beetles'.
>He caught a sparrow two days ago, but it mustn't have been smelly enough for
>him, because he gave it to the dog. Fortunately he likes little furry rodents,
>so he has some redeeming features.
>
Was it alive or dead when he handed it off?  My cat has brought live animals
into the house before - she caught them and wanted to play with them indoors!
[this is the other cat -the one with no brains]  The other cat tends to have
a "snack" if he kills what he catches.:-)  

I think dogs like smelly stuff for some reason; the like "seasoned" meat better
than fresh....  Did the dog eat it?  If  not, it probably wasn't ripe
enough yet.

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
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	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: URGENT CORRECTION.
Date: 19 Dec 1992 18:16:18 GMT
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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>>"What major island lies 250 miles off the south-eastern coast of Africa?"
>>
>: Oh cute, after wasting all that skull sweat...to get an easy one.:-)
>: There's only one big island in that area - Madagascar.
>
>Some follow-up questions: what is Madagascar's most famous export,
>and what unusual fish inhabits the nearby waters?
>
You're kidding, right?:-)  I just memorize maps, not fact books.:-)  
>
>(also doing a little bit of goofing off this afternoon)
>
Or just goofing around , and I didn't see this thing until 13:20 Saturday.:-(
Looks like the Usenet feed is goofing off too....
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:39:48 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: End of Year Retrospective
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> See you all Sunday,
> -rashmi

At my party!  Don't forget:  Sunday, Dec. 20, between 2 and 6 p.m.,
211 South Nash, Starkville, MS.  BE HERE!!
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Subject: Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:55:00 GMT
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> Yes, and I'll bring them both to dinner at Emily's if you answer this
> one burning question:  Are you going to be renting a car when you are
> in Anaheim?

No.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:35:20 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1992, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

> opportunity to work with the Digicom by now.  Still pleased with it?
> Any significant shortcomings?

It's a Supra 14.4, and it's slicker than dog shit, thank you.

-abh
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:15:05 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Neologisms
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        : I struck out the solution and rewrote it on a new sheet, but that
        : was only because there was time left (and a conceit, of course).
        : It wasn't really necessary - the instructors ignore these things.

        I don't.

And do you give extra marks for neat handwriting, Steve?

G
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:05:46 AST
From:         Alan Edwards <aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA>
Subject:      Re: MIDI File spec in ascii format
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 David (hbsk@hostsit.cad.cea.fr)  writes:
> To find the midi specs, anonymous ftp to cs.ruu.nl, directory midi/doc.
>
Do you know if this is the latest including Show Control. I would like to
get hold of this portion. I have the book from IMA that gets as far as
MIDI Time Code, so I now need Sample Dump, File Format and Show Control.
Are there any other sections that I have missed, and are any of these
others this ftp site?

Thanks
Alan
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:05:54 +0100
From:         Hmeljak Dimitrji <hmeljakd@UTS340.UNIV.TRIESTE.IT>
Subject:      ear training on Macs
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Doberdan!

        I'm looking for an 'ear-training' program that runs
        on the Mac, and I plan to use it on Quadras, old MacIIs
        and PowerBooks. Does anybody know if such a thing exist,
        in public domain, freeware, shareware, or at least
        commercially available?

        II.: some months ago I asked about pich-to-midi or voice-
        to-midi boxes. Now I tried the MIDImic from Digigram, made
        in France, but I found it totally inadeguate for anything
        serious. It has slow response, quite bad pitch bend, and
        no other control than note on. No dynamic. So I'm still
        looking for something good to play a synth with my voice.

                                Hvala!

Dimitrij Hmeljak
hmeljakd@uts340.univ.trieste.it
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:00:47 AST
From:         x92bba@ESSEX.STFX.CA
Subject:      Re: your mail
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Hi this is Glen!
Here's my address:
45 Grieve St
St.John's, Newfoundland
A1E 3W2

Here's hoping that those articles get through this time!!!!
GC
x92bba@essex.stfx.ca
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From:         NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Info about CZ SysEx
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If you find sysex specs for the cz101 please let me know.
Thank you very much.

Neil Leonard
nleonard@ecn.mass.edu"
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:49:06 -0500
From:         NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      MIDI File spec in ascii format
Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.american.edu

Could anyone post the MIDI file spec in ascii format or is it
already archived.  If it is archived could someone please let
me know how to access it.

Thank you very much,

Neil Leonard
Massachusetts College of Art
nleonard@ecn.mass.edu
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:59:01 EST
From:         Eirmkur Hallgrmmsson 15-Dec-1992 1801
              <eirikur@RANGER.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Hotz Translator
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Isn't this thing a sort of a pad-transducer with some simple brain...  Old
brain cells respond dimly.  I hadn't thought it really got to market at all.

        Eirikur

It is NOT a faster MIDI link....
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:15:22 AST
From:         x92bba@ESSEX.STFX.CA
Subject:      Re: your mail
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send Well, I,m not sure you told me what you were going to d
oops!
I'm not sure what you were going to send me but send whatever
you can. Rght now I'm logged in to the computer I use in Nova Scotia
From another university here in NFLD and the connection is doing some
wierd things! Send all that stuff as soon as you can because thesis
mania is about to begin!!!!
Glen
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:36:08 -0500
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" <xrjdm@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: MIDI File spec in ascii format
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              at Dec 17, 92 04:05:46 pm

Alan Edwards writes:
>
>  David (hbsk@hostsit.cad.cea.fr)  writes:
> > To find the midi specs, anonymous ftp to cs.ruu.nl, directory midi/doc.
> >
> Do you know if this is the latest including Show Control. I would like to
> get hold of this portion. I have the book from IMA that gets as far as
> MIDI Time Code, so I now need Sample Dump, File Format and Show Control.
> Are there any other sections that I have missed, and are any of these
> others this ftp site?
>
> Thanks
> Alan
>
Sample dump and file format are both available from LISTSERV@auvm.american.edu.
I suppose I should copy this stuff over to the ftp site as well. Email me
for details on access to the files on LISTSERV.
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From:         metlay <metlay@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: THE METLAY ET AL. SOUND
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              "x92bba@essex.stfx.ca" at Dec 12, 92 3:12 pm

>Hello Mr. Metlay!
>This is Glen, the thesis dude. Did you remember to send those back issues
>of Keyboard magazine etc.? They sure would make nice Xmas presents!
>Thanks.......Glen C
>x92bba@essex.stfx.ca

THEY NEVER GOT TO YOU?! <sound of falling body hitting floor>

I'm glad I sent photocopies of the relevant articles and not the
real magazines. Another shining triumph of the Canadian postal
service. I....uh....dread to ask, but is it too late to send
another set?


--
mike metlay                | Today's "Context is Everything" quote:
atomic city                |
p. o. box 81175            | "It runs whimpering into the fern bar
pittsburgh pa 15217-0675   |  next door for a Corona and a plate of
metlay@netcom.com          |  pan-blackened munchkins." (s. masticola)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:30:58 -0500
From:         Nick Rothwell <cassiel@CASSIEL.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: About Team Metlay
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>and Nick Rothwell and I merely had visited and gotten to like one another.

We hadn't "visited" as such; we'd just chatted on the phone, and you'd
tracked down that Matrix-6R for me.

>Nick, whose energy and flair for miracle working
>was a blessing on the first session and the only thing that kept me
>sane on the second.

Not wishing to dwell on such praise, but Vangelis would have no time for me
at all; I'm one of the "mouse people", very much into anal-retentive stuff
like programming Wavestation sequences with a microscope, debugging
MTP-based MIDI networks for hours, reading synth manuals backwards (that
way I see the SysEx spec first, since it's the most useful bit),
programming in MAX for 12 hours at a time, and so on. I'm a little
surprised my approach worked in the Team sessions, but it seemed to, apart
from the brief lapse when the horn solo got spun in for Madeira (I think
Metlay put something in my coffee that morning). It's interesting to see
how different people apply their musical/technical "focus". Some folks just
play. I only feel comfortable and relaxed when I know absolutely everything
about the equipment I'm using and what it can do. So, I'm weird.

>I doubt that he'll be able to do it again any time soon, though; our
>next plan is for me to go to Scotland to work with him.

Huh? "work"?! Hang on...

                      Nick Rothwell  |  cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |  cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk
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From:         metlay <metlay@NETCOM.COM>
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              "x92bba@essex.stfx.ca" at Dec 15, 92 9:00 pm

>Hi this is Glen!
>Here's my address:
>45 Grieve St
>St.John's, Newfoundland
>A1E 3W2
>
>Here's hoping that those articles get through this time!!!!
>GC
>x92bba@essex.stfx.ca

I promised you "Turmoil in MIDIland" and "Why they DO (Sometimes)",
right? Or have I forgotten one? (These are the two most interesting:
in the latter, Bob Moog predicts the sound module/keyboard controller
studio architecture (and some say Roland got the idea from him!), and
the other has great comments like the people at Fairlight wishing
MIDI ran at 1 Megabaud and the head of Voyetra saying that he refuses
to put 5-pin DIN jacks on MIDI gear.)


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pittsburgh pa 15217-0675   |
metlay@netcom.com          |                          (n. rothwell)
From: pcastine@tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (Peter Castine)
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Subject: Re: ear training on Macs
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:59:04 GMT
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In article <9212151705.AA24840@uts340.univ.trieste.it> hmeljakd@UTS340.UNIV.TRIESTE.IT (Hmeljak Dimitrji) writes:
>Doberdan!
>
>        I'm looking for an 'ear-training' program that runs
>        on the Mac, and I plan to use it on Quadras, old MacIIs
>        and PowerBooks. Does anybody know if such a thing exist,
>        in public domain, freeware, shareware, or at least
>        commercially available?
>

Commercial products available:

   Practica Musica     (Ars Nova Software)
   Listen              (I think the publisher is called Imagine)

Coda Software also has a program for ear-training, the name of which
escapes me right now.

Hope this helps,


-- 
Peter Castine.                       "Errors and anachronisms ought to be
Technische Universitaet Berlin        few. If they do occur, I take full
pcastine@tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de      responsibility like Richard Nixon."
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From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" <xrjdm@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: big punchy bass
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              at Dec 15, 92 08:13:03 am

Peter Uchytil writes:
> 1) Can someone explain a bit of what's involved with a good bass patch?
>    What kind of waveforms do you typically use?  What kind of filter
>    settings are used (these seem to give me the most trouble with my SQ2).
>
> 2) Am I fooling myself thinking the synth can do it all?  Do I need a
>    compressor to get that tight, punchy sound?

I think that others will agree that it's not absolutely necessary to have a pure
analog synth to have a good solid bass patch. The SQ2 and ESQ1 should both be
quite able to do a great bass patch.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that both of these machines have
resonant filters, and I think the ESQ1 has oscillator sync? Cranking up
your resonance will give your bass patches more "body". If you can envelope
your filter as well, opening it up at the beginning of the note and then
closing it down quickly will give you that "dowwmmmm" sound. Syncing your
oscillators will give the waveform more high-frequency transients
related to your fundamental that will help pull it out of the mix.

Use waveforms that have as many harmonics as possible. Sawtooth waves
have all of the overtones; square waves have all of the odd harmonics.
I've got a couple of patches on the VFX which use a sawtooth transposed
up an octave and then bent back down again to the original pitch with
a constant pitch envelope. This results in aliasing caused by roundoff
errors during the computation of the waveform, adding related high-
frequency harmonics which make the wave brighter and punchier. (Not
an original idea; wish it had been, though.)

Mixing your bass as dry as possible will also help to get it right
in the listener's face. Double it with a nice solid kick drum to
make it really hit hard. This is very easy and may be enough all by
itself. Never spend money when orchestration will do the job. :-)

I'm sure the Real Analog folks will have some other hints. These are
written mostly from the pure digital standpoint, so they should work
on your synths, being the analog/digital hybrids that they are.

 --- Joe M.
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