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From: wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Coffee? Re: hey this is America (was Re: korean guys...)
Date: 24 Nov 1992 01:00:07 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodin.cs.uh.edu

In article <62268@mimsy.umd.edu> kimy@goober.cs.umd.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov21.180019.23240@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>>
>>ObKorean:  Anyone know a place that serves a great capuccino in Seoul?  I'm
>>going to miss them dearly when I go back this Christmas.

Capuccino is hard to find in Korea. Probably you should go to very good
hotel rounges and it must be very expensive, also.

>You could get yourself an espresso maker.  Folks over in the food newsgroups
>said they liked the Gaggia, but it's a bit pricey, around the $400 range.
>Coffee aficionados say it's well worth it.

There are many variations of espresso/cappucino maker and which one you would
buy depends on your specific flavor.  There is a guide book about Espresso 
Coffee Makers and it describes almost all kinds of Espresso Makers, their
flavors, ... and etc.

>Me, I'm making do with my Krups Mini, which I got on sale for $80.  

That is what I have and I am very happy with it.  In fact, I could not
find yet any restaurant which makes better espresso/cappuccino than this
Krups Mini. When I accidentally went to an expensive orginal Italian 
restaurant, the cappucino was terrible compared to the one from my Krups Mini.
The secret is that the coffee should be fresh.  You should also use
Vitamine D full milk, rather than 2% or skim milk.

I strongly suggest to Brian (or anyone in similar situation) to bring
that cheap and good espresso maker.
Don't forget to bring "Ferrara's Cafe Espresso Coffe" also. 

>I used
>to actually make espresso with it, but now since I'm trying to cut down on
>my caffeine intake (I discovered I had to drink about 4 demitasses of
>espresso before the caffeine started taking effect) 

That is why the amount of one cup of espresso is quater of one cup of
regular coffee.  Green Mountain also makes decaffanated Espresso coffee,
which I sometimes try, but what do you get with decaffanated espresso ?
Kind of ChinPang without AngKo.

BTW, does anyone know whether all these kinds of coffee (beans) are 
available in Korea ?


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From: lee-d@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (dong-seok lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Can I get all user list ?
Keywords: internet, bitnet,korea,ac, kr, co
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:24:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov16.182411.28020
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

Hi, everybody.

How to get all the user list in certain domains, which can be internet, bitnet
hosts in Korea.

Do you know any comand to look at  all users ? 

I use to look at users at internet domain
   " rusers -l domian " --- but it gives only a few users who looged in 
recently.
Also, when I use whois -d domain name( which is in Korea), I always got 
connection refused.  is there any WHOIS server in Korea.

Also I typed "ypcat -d domain name passwd" then it goes infinite loop.

Any help will be given 1000 thanks and blessing through your life,...
it is guaranteed.

Please, help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:19:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.181826.6354@wam.umd.edu> south@wam.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>
>	Somehow, U.S. Navy has been pretty strong in the air; check out
>	the roll of U.S. Navy during V. War.

Each military branch had their own air support back then...

>	Also, the fact that U.S. can bombard the land of Japan played
>	great roll, probably more than the bombardment itself; and yes,
>	there were the aircraft carriers to carry the bomber, which
>	was the most wanted target of Kamikaze.

'30 Seconds Over Tokyo'.... a psychological victory.

>>Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan, there are so many nooks and crannies for
>>the enemy to hide.  
>
>	But not the zillions of army from PRC.
>	DAESHIK.KIM

According to Army intelligence estimate of April 1952 Communist troop forces
were esitmated to be 860,000 an increase of 360,000 from July 1951.
(This is total communist forces, both North Korean and Chinese.)

If 'zillions' means number under a million, then 'yes' :)

Andrew Sung Hyun Kim

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jsoh@eng.auburn.edu (Jongseok Oh)
Subject: Military duty
Reply-To: jsoh@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: soc.culture.korean 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:50:02 GMT

> Your point is well made. However, you seem to miss a very important fact.
> Serving in the army is not the only way to become patriotic to our country. 
> This also does not mean one should try everyway to avoid the duty. however,
> it became a quite common ground that one has to stop developing his skills and
> talents to just be a part of army is not only wasting time, but it also puts
> a lengthy delay to catch up the world's competition. 

I don't think that military army is useless for their life. Don't classify people between someone for the army and others for exemption. Do you think that your Ph.D degree is really valuable as much as you can exempt the duty ?. I acknowledge that some Hi-Tech expert can contribute to national interest greatly and Korea is really needed this kind of person. Before evaluating people, legitimated consription law which all the people can accepted should be established.  When I hear the current news from other


s, it is really unfair and lots of bribe. I read newspaper a couple years ago that according to open document from Korea Defense agency, in one year,about 6000 soldier die due to some safe accident or their mission.  It is miserable number. However, I have never heard any news that any exempted high educated person die due to his hard working in his field insteady of his army service. In addition, Korean military should be change to democratic system. Becaue I still question whether korean army is for the 


people or for the goverened political party.  If they continue to stick their old one, the credibility about military is really trouble and nobody accepts the reason why he should serve the army. In my opinion, near future, conscription system should be changed from mandatory to volunteer and from total active to some active, others reserve force, that is 30 of army is the first active, another 30% is the second active and  the remaining is reserve like European system. Of course, we have to pay much more 


tax for this system. Remember, current bribe money which the rich spend their exemption is not a small money. I heard some rumor that 30 million won may be needed to exempty 4 years ago.

J.S.Oh
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: korean guys...
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:26:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.145522.16429@news.acns.nwu.edu>, phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
> 
> I do not know what experience is required, but my not-so-intelligent
> feedback is that your suspicion is true.  If you think what they tell you
> is bad, wait to see what they talk among themselves.  There may be a few
> exceptions but they are all taken by girls with vision (one of them is by
> girlfriend).
> 

I don't know if I agree with James "Abby" on this one.  Just because of some
"lockeroom talk" we do, we shouldn't be guilty of what is "accused" here.
I consider myself raised in Korean culture but I never thought that I had
a chauvinistic tendency.  If the guys that Hannah was dating were making such
remarks as "shouldn't you be doing the dishes?" and the like than it is their
personal integrity that should be questionned.  I don't know of any guys
around me that would say anything like that on a date or in a group situation.
And why would she think Chinese or any guys for that matter would be different?
Just like she attempted to say, guys are basically the same no matter what
their race.  It's just that the Korean guys she is hanging out with need their
head examined.
From: kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sung Hyun Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: celebrating birthdays
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:33:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov18.163321.14866
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <1ebrlmINNa41@gap.caltech.edu> sahnow@cco.caltech.edu (David J. Sahnow) writes:
>
>	I would like to make a cake, but I remember
>that my brother said that Koreans don't like sweet
>things the way Americans do.  Is there a Korean
>equivalent to a birthday cake?  Do they have candles?
>I'm willing to try a Korean recipe (as long as it's
>not too hard).  I can get most ingrediants as long as
>I know the right name because we have a small Korean
>town here in Baltimore.

American style birthday celebration is pretty common in Korea. So you wouldn't
be embarrassed if you do it in the way you know. Koreans use cakes and candles.
It would be nice if you can get some Korean things (e.g. Koreans eat Mi-yok-
kook : Seaweed Soup on birthday. )

>
>	Any suggestions, background, or warnings are
>welcome.  I really hate being an ugly American.
>
Not knowing about Korean tradition enough doesn't make you ugly. :-)

>Karla Peterson


-- 
Sung Hyun Kim      kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ; kim_sh@jhuvms.hcx.jhu.edu

 A self-countering N-tuple is called an equilibrium point
 John Nash, Proceedings of National Academy of Science (1950)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Update on them roses I sent
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:52:37 GMT

Due to the overwhelming demands of the folks, I am writing to keep you
guys up to date on the incident where I sent a dozen longstme red roses
to my ex for no special occasion.

Well, she called me and thanked me about a thousand times. (She has my 
calling card number and she uses it freely even though I only gave it to
her for emergencies only. And that is probably why she had so much time
to thank me a thousand times.)  
We are still good friends, no more, no less.  When I told about the reactions
of you guys, she kinda chuckled and said, "I guess they don't really know us
at all!"  Here, here.
That's it.  If anything else develops, I will be sure to post it here.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: YGH@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Young-Geun Han)
Subject: I'm looking for Jang, Yoon Seok.
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 22:33:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi, everybody.
I'm looking for one of my friends whose name is Jang, Yoon Seok.
He was studying at a university in Wisconsin until summer, 1991.
I heard that he transferred to Oregon State Univ. or U. of Oregon.
His major was Food Science or Food Engineering.
If anyone knows him, please let me know his phone number.

Thank you in advance.

Han, Young-Geun
Penn State Univ.
ygh@eclx.psu.edu



Han, Young-Geun
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Ho-tuk (was Re: Hanyang Shopping Center)
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:48:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <98686@netnews.upenn.edu> hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) writes:
>                                      _|_ ____
>Winter reminds me of ho-tuk.  That's   o  |_|_-|  to be more precise.
>                                      _|_    --|
>
>The most delicious ho-tuk used to be sold at the basement of Hanyang
>Shopping Center, but ever since the name change to Galleria the place
>is no where to be seen.  I suspect that "Ho-dooh & Boong-uh" cookie
>store bought the place out.  Those damn capitalists!  Where did the
>place go?  I miss it immensely!

How true!  But seriously, does anyone know of a mail-order store
(preferably within continental U.S.) that sends out Samlip Ho-tuk?
Better yet, what about Samlip Kkul (honey) Ho-tuk?  They used to have
funny advertisement back in early 80's with a guy walking in fast
motion.  I go baegopah!

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Subject: Kim, Yong Oak:what is your opinion about him?
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:40:43 GMT

	Subject precisely says it all.  What are your opinions?

	Gag-Lae Kurtis Kim
	gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
	THE SEEKER OF TRUTH
From: jnlee@uucp (John Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Dating
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:45:29 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <9211181443.aa15396@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> changl@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>I'm 20 years old Korean male and I am a first generation in America.
>I came to America in 1987 when I was 15 years old. Since than I
>never been to Korea. I think I'm very liberal man.
>
>Since my major is Computer science (you know computer science
>is very time consuming major), I don't have time to spend on
>dating. So I haven't dated anyone for a while.  However, I think it
>is perfectly okay for korean woman to date with non-Korean man.
>Besides, I dated non-Korean woman when I was in High school.  And,
>I believe that if Korean man can date with non-Korean woman, Korean
>woman can date non-Korean man any time she wants; I think it is not
>fare to stop Korean woman dating non-Korean man when Korean man is
>dating non-Korean woman.
>

Chang Hoon, you sound very much like me decade ago (yes, i am at least
decade older than you - how depressing :( ).  I am a social liberal 
and fiscal conservative (i think this new term for yuppies now), and
when i was in school(again long time ago) I felt i was a liberal.

As a decade passed and small human beings started calling me dadddy,
my views on life shifted to a higher ground :-)  Because i want my
kids to understand their roots, i been trying to understand my own.
Oops, it seems i am slipping into my daddy mode again.. going back to 
to the matter at hand; dating I believe it is. Yes i think one should
have a choice to data whome ever they could convence to date them. 
This view of mine has not changed since i first tried to use this
concept to the fullest :)  But, i have different view on marriage ...

More on this later.. I have to finish this project by today so .....

John R. Lee  (Jong Rim Lee)        
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: seo@capone.ccsm.uiuc.edu (Jong-Wook Seo)
Subject: Re: Service in Korea
Organization: Microelectronics Lab - Univ. of Illinios
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:53:42 GMT

In article <26498@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, 
kim@cs.arizona.edu (Kyung Soo Kim) writes :


...
[part of the article deleted]
...

>  There was news article about 4 weeks ago that many politicians and 
>businessmen's sons are exempt from the mandatory service due to lack of 
>physical strength or some kind of illness. The number was like 11.000 or
>more( I am not sure, but close). Then, are that large number of big name
>Korean's sons phycally handicap? I mean physical, but Mental.
>Let me hear your opinion.
Actually, they are, I think.
And, mostly mentally.

Among my friends, I know only one guy who got the exemption by trying to 
get it through an extraordinary way.
Of course, it wasn't through illegal way, nor immoral way.
He did it because of his religious belief.
He happens to be one of my best friends, and I haven't seen anybody 
blaming him even among some of my radical friends.
Instead, we feel very sorry to him because our society doesn't have proper 
room for people like him.
Anyway, whenever I hear of a story like the one you told us above, I think 
that many of the Korean upper class are really handicapped.
They don't even feel bad about saying what they are doing.

However, knowing people like you make us really happy.
It is not because that the military service symbolizes any patriotism.
(I don't even feel comfortable with this word.
It reminds me of some sort of blindness.)
But it is simply because we know that you saved your morality like the
majority of Korean ordinary people by just not trying damn 'smart' trick.
Anyway, I am happy to know you.


>Kyung-Soo Kim                                 kim@cs.arizona.edu
>Dept. Computer Science                        kim@coal.math.arizona.edu
>The University of Arizona             


Jong-Wook Seo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Any Hangul fonts bigger than 16x16 in .bdf format ?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:31:21 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1ek3j5INN2as@alnitak.usc.edu> dkyoon@alnitak.usc.edu (Dae-Kyun Yoon) writes:
>I am running hanterm on my 386 PC running Linux and X-windows.  But due to
>the small size of my monitor (14"), 16x16 hangul font is too small

	Wasn't X for Linux R5?
	Doesn't it use scalable font (*.pcf)?
	Just curious.

P.S. If it uses scalable font, there must be a way to scale it to
     bigger/smaller size - sorry that this may not help you.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Soojaebi (was Re: My life as a Bulgogi)
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:25:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov23.031415.14611@news.columbia.edu> kwak@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nancy Kwak) writes:
: In article <98684@netnews.upenn.edu> hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) writes:
: [...]
: >8. I'll be going over to Columbia next week provided you will make me
: >   one, or I can make you one, which ever you prefer, but only at your
:          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 
: how refreshing to hear such a liberal offer from a KOREAN guy. :-)

YES!!  (^_^)

: >9. We can meet at the Hungarian pastry over a cup of coffee while
: >   immersed in the beauty of conversation in real life.
: 
: tempting offer... but no thanks. :)

NO...  (;_;)

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae J Won)
Subject: Re: Dating
Organization: Monash University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:21:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.143023.21081@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> ahn@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.k.ahn) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.040730.17925@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>>	I've done it, and I found almost no difference.  I've dated a Turk,
>>a French, an American, and a second generation Korean.  Talk about branching
>              ^^^^^^^^
>Unless you mean a native American, please don't exclude a "second generation
>Korean" from the group called "American".  I know you didn't mean it, but
>such misuse perpetuates the idea that we Korean-Americans (or Asian Americans)
>are not real "Americans".
>
>Just a friendly attempt to raise awareness.
>

I would rather stay Korean. Period. I live here in Australia and have spend
most of my maturing process here. I consider myself very much Korean.

I am not a REAL Australian. I know it. They know it. We all know it.

It is quite sad to see some people who come here and try to lose their identity.
I don't think this goes for ones who have been living here most of their lives
but people like me, I think there is no doubt what I am.(been here since 13
and now 21).

This is no self-righteousness stuff but I think keeping the identity is a healthy thing in a multicultural world.

Just my opinions.

Won, JaeJoon



Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Soojaebi (was Re: My life as a Bulgogi)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 05:29:43 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Nov24.010322.3961@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>If the machine name has anything to do with your career..

	Gatta be an appetite!
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: south@wam.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:56:49 GMT

Just one thing, the orig. poster mentioned about the military power
that threw up Japan in WWII; however, I don't think it was Army in WWII;
rather, U.S. won WWII in the air against Japan (along with nuke).

W/o nuke, both Japan and U.S. would have had a lot more casualies including
Korean/Japanese civilians; I don't want to imagine what would have happened
if U.S. army needed to land on Japan.

However, I don't know what happened to that air power when PRC involved
which would have been a good target for carpet bombardment.
-- 
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com
	dskim@eng.umd.edu south@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Update on them roses I sent
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:14:46 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Nov23.195237.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>...She has my calling card number and she uses it freely...

	I wonder if she's gonna give it to her new boy friend if she
	gets one; and it's pretty tempting offer.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Subject: Re: My dear chungkookchang...
Reply-To: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:14:05 GMT

In article <97372@netnews.upenn.edu> hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) writes:

>Why settle for LA when I can get the authentic food in Korea without
>such worries as you have carefully listed.  Granted, the cost of meals
>in Seoul are sky rocketing (a bowl of rice costs 1000 won even at a
>really dinky boonshikchum), but what does such money matter when you
>can enjoy and breath the aroma of chungkookchang in a panic-free
>atmosphere?
>
>Hyunsuk Seung
>hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu

	Anyone seen this boy yet?
	He is talking about "panic-free atmosphere" again which has
been the main theme involving his eating behavior.  Again, please let
me know if you see him.  As I said before, he is dangerous.  How would
you recognize him?  That's simple: he has "chungkookchang" written all
over face.  But he might change that to "bibimbob" which has been
another of his obsession during his last institutionalized state.
	Please help me in locating his poor soul.