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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World Music Change
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:41:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.141132.10129@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.010411.9135@mercury.cair.du.edu> mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
>>hello:
>>
>>I just watched the release of "Wayne's World" and
>>noted that on the package for the movie it said
>>"Some music has been changed for this videocasette".
>>Notably the scene that involved the song "Stairway
>>to Heaven" had been altered.  Does anyone know
>>the reason behind this?
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Marc Wasserman
>>mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu
>>
>>-- 
>
>
>What did they change specifically? That was one of the pivitol scenes
>of the film! ;^[
>
 I know.  Wayne sits down to play Stairway to Heaven, but
instead you just hear a regular guitar riff.  The salesamn
then stops him and points to the "No Stairway to Heaven"
sign, but because Wayne wasn't playing it, the humor is
completely removed.
 
-- 
"So you're choosing to run from your own people in a rackety old TARDIS?"
		     D  O  C  T  O  R     W  H  O
				30 Years
"Why not?  After all, that's how it all started!"
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Movies starring Claude Akins Wanted.
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:31:30 GMT

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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:10:06 GMT

In article <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:

>The TV Guide has an article this week about "zapping".
>In other words, channel scanning. 
>At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
>me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
>me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!

The Dinger.


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
==============================================================================
--"It's the sound of the secret--  jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: colorization killer (was Ted Turner et al)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:53:27 GMT

In article <115034@muvms3.bitnet> rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM) writes:
>You can kill off the odious effects of colorization, either on
>TV or cassette, by simply turning down the color tuning knob on your
>set.

This doesn't work.

When a film is colorized, the B&W levels are also modified. Turning
down the color knob will most likely get you a very pale and low-contrast
version of the original.

                                            -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: donofrio@nereid.sal.ists.ca (Frank D'onofrio)
Subject: best war movies
Organization: Space Astrophysics Laboratory, ISTS, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:37:42 GMT


Do these count? The Great Escape, The Guns of Navarone.  I'm always
willing to stay up until 2 in the morning to see these films, which is
when they're usually on the T.V.


Frank
The Bocca Demon
From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Unforgiven (Was Re: Unforgivable)  ***SPOILERS***
Summary: Unforgiven is unforgivable...
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:21:24 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of Delaware


Yea, I saw that in the film, too.  The fact that there were no clear cut
good guys/bad guys.  I had a feeling similar to watching "Goodfellas".  The
movie (GF) kind of drew me into the world of these mafia killers, and yet I
couldn't sympathize with them after a while.  Same in Unforgiven.  In most
westerns, there is are clear cut good guys and bad guys.  But who was the
good guy in Unforgiven?  Well, Clint it seems at first but this guy is
coming to collect money for murdering someone.  He IS an assassin as Little
Bill calls them.  So this movie is good in that there are no clear cut
silly black & white good guys and bad guys.  Great, a western that comes
close to the truth, after all these years.  But the thing is, the closer
you get to the real truth, the less the story is involving to an audience.
So this thing happens and they want revenge and they hire a killer.  It is
just a bunch of stupid people going about committing violence for money or
manhood or power or whatever.  IF Clint Eastwood made this film as a way of
saying that westerns are really movies about a world that never existed.
That the way it really was was not something you can get excited about,
then hey, I think he made a damn good statement.

But one thing that irks me about this film is the way they go, look, that
guy writing about English Bob, he had it all wrong.  That was all just made
up by the guy to make himself look good.  And here is Little Bill telling
how it "really" is (as if we are ever really gonna know how it REALLY
was).  And look at the kid.  He didn't really kill those 5 men.  It was a
lie that he made up to puff himself up.  There is nothing romantic about
killing other people, Clint is letting us know.  Its really not fun.  But
oh, Clint Eastwood, playing the former gunslinger who had reformed, and who
keeps reminding the audience how great he was, but that he ain't gonna do
that no more, well, HE IS the "hero" so it turns out that he really WAS the
real bad dude everyone suspected he was.  All that myth about the other
people was false, but the myth about William Munny (played by that
Hollywood gunslinger Clint Eastwood) well that was true, of course.  He
really was all that he said he was and all that people had heard he was.
Oh well, nice try Mr. Eastwood but no cigar...

And of course, in the end, he gets the girl (the film amazed over the fact
that a girl could fall for a cold-hearted mercilous killer like William
Munny), proving conclusively that he was, in the end, the good guy, even if
we did have our little doubts for a while there...


Ben.

-- 
Ben Williams
bew@brahms.udel.edu

               What we got here is a failure to communicate...
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:28:31 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <16abn1INNlgb@agate.berkeley.edu> peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
>
>MODERN BABES:
>
>Mary Stuart Masterson: Perhaps the only current actress I could obsess
>upon (Fried Green Tomatoes, Chances Are, Some Kind of Wonderful)

Oh, yes!
I was obsessed with her for quite a while after Some Kind of Wonderful.
The woman can =act=, and has finally broken out of teen films and type
casting.


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From: teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander TV Show!
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:27:05 GMT
Organization: Institute of Education, University of London


So, will the Highlander TV series follow the continuity of the first film,
or the second? :-)


Ian J Davenport    MULLARD SPACE SCIENCE LABORATORY   ijd@uk.ac.ucl.mssl

Highlander - where the scot plays the spaniard, and the frenchman plays the
             scot.
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Do the Aliens come from EARTH?
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:41:57 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <rabjab.16.0@golem.ucsd.edu>, by rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof):
>  That leads me to believe that the story 
> weavers of Alien have chosen to cloud that aspect, and bring it to
> flower later.  Why they didn't do it in Alien^3 is beyond me.

Probably because they were more competent than they are usually given
credit for.  Sorry to say, but you are suffering from what is commonly
called a fixed idea.  A classic symptom is that you take something
that is not corroborated by even a shred of evidence, then argue that
this is so because it ws "clouded up".  Face it, no "clouding up" is
necessary, it does not fit, it is not present, and it never was.
Therefore, it is hardly surprising that they didn't bring it to flower
later.  It is inconsistent, overly complex and flounders under it's
own weight.

Note, btw, that there are no "weavers of Alien".  The people who wrote
the original story and screenplay are quite another group than the
ones who did it for the second and third film.  There is no one
watching over the Alien films as a series, which is why they could be,
well, liberal in their observation of facts put down clearly in the
previous movies.

> After you blow up a Pan-Am over Lockerbee, you don't send out a 
> bunch of terrorists right away to look over the wreckage.

But you're not proposing a Lockerbie scheme here, you're talking a
privately funded Armageddon.  Different circumstances, different
reactions.

> There's a dual cover-up here:  the Company is definitely not
> going to come out and say "we have discovered an intelligent 
> species", if their intent or action is or was to commit Xenocide.

Yes!  Nobody sees it that way, so you must be right, since they're
covering it all up.  This is the basic scheme of all films that have
to do with political intrigue.  Unfortunately, the Alien films don't
need any additional dose of it, they already have enough.  It's just
so much self-eliminating dead weight.

> certainly have been very important in the plot development (the
> existence of the Elephant and Flying U, and the curious lack of interest of
> its implications)

Good point.  However, that is simply due to lack of interest in what
went on in the previous film(s), a fault that the makers of both
Aliens and Alien 3 are guilty of.  They treat the history with a
cavalier attitude and tend to wave it away with a bored look back.
The problem is that your proposal still runs full tilt against the
line of the original film, which, to complete your bad luck, by being
the first is the one that has no such problem.  Since it stands on its
own, its storyline is much better anchored and secure.
-- 
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University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Unforgivable  ***SPOILERS***
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:51:14 GMT

In article <11800@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>The sheriff's decision to simply require financial compensation to Slim for 
>damaging Slim's "merchandise," rather than actually punish the cowboys for a 
>horribly serious crime (mayhem), is clearly a comment on today's America, 
>where rape is treated less seriously than such victimless crimes as drug abuse,
>gun ownership, prostitution, and gambling.

I think you sre projecting here. It is far more likely that the Sheriff
behaves that way because it is the sort of behavior that an 1880s person
like Little Bill would probably do. Clint Eastwood is not the sort of person
to put your message in his films.

It always amuses me the way people will read whatever they want into things.

Michael

-- 
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 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: heitster@athena.mit.edu (Eric R Heit)
Subject: Re: What movie was this song in?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:30:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.141300.14815@bnr.co.uk> ace@bharh45.bnr.co.uk (A.Elly) writes:
>Hello there!!
>
>I was watching the Sky Movies Plus channel on the
>dish here in England.  They were showing short
>clips of films due to be shown during the next month
>and in the background they played a song with the line
>"... the future's so bright, I've gotta wear shades ..."
>in it.
>
>Please, does anybody know what this song is actually
>called, who it's by and which film, if any, it is
>associated with.
>
>Answers by email please.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Adrienne

The title of the song is "I've Gotta Wear Shades," and it's sung
by Timbuckthree.

I'm pretty sure it's from "The Secret Of My Success."
(Michael J. Fox, Helen Slater)

-Eric
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: *THE HOT SPOT* Spoilers - Did the ending irritate anyone?
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:14:47 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Charlie) askes:

>Did this ending irritate anyone else out there (understanding of course, 
>it's just a movie)?

It irritated the hell out of me.  I got the impression that someone hacked 
the script - said essentially "okay it's long enough, time to wrap it up".  

It didn't fit for the rest of the movie, and I thought it was totally out of 
character, especially for Don Johnson's character.
-- 
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             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Manon of the Spring (was something really stupid)
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:04:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <2682@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>I agree that for the
>Americans to remake The Year My Voice Broke is just pathetic...same as
>the fact that they are going to remake "The Vanishing". I might go and
>see the US version of that...just for a laugh!

The one interesting aspect of the American version of "The Vanishing"
is that the same director is making the American version as did the
Dutch version.  One rarely gets the chance to see what would happen if
a director had a chance to remake his film.  (Hitchcock's "The Man
Who Knew Too Much" is a rare exception.)  Of course, I'd feel more
excited if the film was getting remade because Sluizer felt he wanted
to do it differently, rather than because he wanted to use the
opportunity to break into American filmmaking, but it still should be
interesting.

In the early days of sound films, by the way, it was common practice in
Hollywood to shoot the same film simultaneously in multiple languages, 
often with different casts, sometimes with different directors.  The
Spanish language version of "Dracula" is supposedly better than the
English language version we know and love.  This recent trend in
American films isn't quite the same thing, but has a certain kinship.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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From: tfarmer@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct Ending...hmmmmm <SPOILER>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 01:24:06 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <smith.58@panther.adelphi.edu> smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith) writes:
>In article <11AUG199207120417@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Doug Darling) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug4.195422.21851@rock.concert.net>, black@jazz.concert.
>net (Rob Black) writes...
>>SS knew that MD's partner was going to die because she had planned to kill
>>him.  SS's character was a master-mind killer.  She would spend years 
>>planning a murder.  I think the reason that she didnt kill MD was because
>>it would be too obvious.
>
>I got the impression SS was gonna kill MD right up to the last moment.  
>Then, when he allowed that _not_ having children was okay too, she 
>changed her mind.  She was not an Earth Mother type.  You have to be 
>heads-up and wide awake to catch the ending's who-done-it.  If you dropped 
>your JuJuBees, and bent to pick them up, you'd come away thinking someone 
>else was the killer.

I thought the ending was a cheap trick.

It spolit the rest of the film with some adolescent "wouldn't it be
cool if..." gimmick. They should ahve left the dark haired woman as
the killer.

As it was the film just fell into cliche...



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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Subject: Re: What was Godzilla's name in japanese?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:17:11 GMT

In article <1610@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan) writes...
> 
>Anybody know? I want to name a project after that famous creature that
>ate Tokyo, but I want it to know the japanese pronounciation of Godzilla?
> 
Probably the best way for us hakajeans to pronounce it is Gojeera with
no accents on any sylables.  The _r_ is sort of rolled with the tongue
so that it *almost* has an _l_ sound to it.  I believe the word comes
from the combination of the Japanese words for gorilla and whale.

At least that's what my sushi sensei tells me...

Ron
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:26:44 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:


>At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
>me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
>me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!

We just point to it and say "gimme"
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From: "glenn devlin" <glenn.devlin@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: raiders of the lost a
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:51:09 EST
Reply-To: "glenn devlin" <glenn.devlin@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

JIG>Does anyone know what Indiana's guide in Egypt's name was?  The character
JIG>not the actor's name.

EW>     If you mean the same guy who appeared in the third movie, then his
EW>     name was Sollah.  He was played by John Rhys-Davies, who I've also
EW>     seen in "Victor/Victoria" and "I, Claudius."

 Sallah- Sa-llah. <g> His character couldn't pronounce Belloq's
name..

 Cheers, Glenn
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Hoffa Release Date?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:31:48 GMT


Anybody know with Danny DeVito's Hoffa is to be released. After
DeVito's masterful handling of _War of the Roses_, I'm ready
to brave the ticket lines for opening night of this one...


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Do the Aliens come from EARTH?
Date: 19 Aug 1992 19:52:23 GMT
Organization: sio
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu


What if the Ripley's Company discovered evidence of an intelligent species
in deep space?  If the intelligent aliens represented a threat of any
kind or unwanted competition for resources, wouldn't the Company try
to get rid of them?  

I think a good case can be made that long before the crew of the Nostrono 
made contact with the derelict ship on LV-426, the Company developed
the Alien species and infected another civilization's home planet.  
The immense derelict ship was probably a cargo vessal preparing to
mine the rich coal of the planet where it was found, but
had become infected before landing.

The Company, patiently allowed the Alien infection to follow its course,
and watched the whole thing from a distance, hiding even the fact of
the existence of another race of sentient life forms.  After the 
extermination was complete,  the company would go in and "bury" the
mess.

The action in Alien, Aliens and Alien^3 seems completely peripheral to
the real story, which I hope may be revealed in Alien^4.
 

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From: jcitro@cwis.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro)
Subject: Re: John Wayne movie
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:56:35 GMT


m article <jcitro.714024089@cwis>, by jcitro@cwis.unomaha.edu (Joe
Citro):
>> John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara played in my favorite "John Wayne"
movie
>> of all time......McLintock.  It used to be shown on TV regularly
years
> >ago but it's been at least 10 years since I've seen it. It's also
not
>> available on videotape.  Does anyone know why?  Just about every
other
>> movies of his is available in one form or another.
>

>You just missed it.  It was on TBS (I think) a week or 2 ago.
>This is the one where the grandson is kidnapped by Richard Boone
>and a band of desperadoes right?
>"Land of song, said the warrior bard,           Jim Heath
>Though all the world betrays thee.
   
>One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
>One faithful harp will praise thee."         (Thomas Moore)

   Nope! Sorry! That's the wrong movie.  That one was called "Big
Jake"            made in 1971.  The one I'm looking for was made in
1963.  It's a
   comedy western  where Maureen O'Hara plays the Duke's wife who has
been    separated from him for awhile and wants a divorce and comes
home to
   get it. His grown-up daughter (Stephanie Powers) also comes  home 
   to visit.  Then the fun begins. My favorite scenes:  The fight
   on the hill with everyone sliding into the mud....Patrick Wayne
   spanking Stephanie Powers with a shovel...The duke chasing
   Maureen O'Hara around town. 

  



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From: tag4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (TODD AUBREY GLADSTONE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:22:51 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <JOACHIM.92Aug14131508@betelgeusian.ee.up.ac.za>, joachim@betelgeusia
n.ee.up.ac.za (Louis Joubert) writes:
>... and what about "The Beast of War" ?
>

        How about "Stalag 17" ?
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From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best war movies
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:56:46 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Has anyone mentioned Gunga Dinn?
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