From: rks@cscns.com (gisle j benediktsson)
Subject: Re: Me? Clueless? Naaah :)
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:12:31 GMT

Vicki Streiff (vyxter@ftp.com) wrote:
: rks@cscns.com (gisle j benediktsson) writes:

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: ahh, just the way i like women to look. :)  (comfortable, that is.)  
: a former boyfriend once pointed out to me that i like butch women and
: femme men.  he was utterly correct, i realized.  (isn't it funny the

Same here -- to an extent. I don't like women to look as 'butchy' as I
do but I am totally turned off by lots of cosmetics, high heels and
crap like that. Bleah. 

But -- thanks! :-)

: things we have to be told before we realize them to be true?) anyway,
: back to what gisle said.  you wouldn't happen to have broad shoulders,
: dark hair, and a big friendly smile when you're not scowling, would
: you?  ahh, no matter.

I have a rather blank looking expression actually -- until I get to 
know someone. Then I will smile. I am not what one would call a "cheerful"
type. More "fuck with me and you're dead" type look. (grin) ah. I come
from Los Angeles. It is self-defense. :-)



: the original question, how do i know i am a woman, well, i'm going to
: have to be unhelpfull nd say that i just do.  my gender identity
: became very important to me because of my political beliefs.  i came
: very close to completing a women's studies major at the women's
: college i attended.  i studied feminism and was politically active as
: a woman and as a bisexual person.  this is how being a woman was and
: became more important to me.  i think if there was no sexism my gender
: would be much less important to me.  it isn't something i enjoy being
: concerned about.

Amen. I have always sensed that same oppression, yet refuse to acknowledge
it or allow it into my life. I think the thing is that I see all forms
of discrimination as coming from the root cause of economic oppression so
my political activism has been focussed. 

I wish we could come to the realization that being equal doesn't mean
that we are the *same*. I like to visualize all of the races, ethnicities
, genders, etc. as being one big tossd green salad. We all contribute 
somethign to the whole because of our own special talents and 'flavors'.
We don't have to blend into one homogenized mess. 

I do know, though, that until there is economic equity -- we will never
achieve any other kind of equity. We will just continue to divide ourselves
into separate little groups so that we can always find someone to exploit. 

Ugh. what a sick, sick world! 


: to the fellow who has recently discovered so much about himself,
: congratulations!  my advice to you would be that you should continue
: to be open to new thoughts and new possibilities, but not worry about
: it so much.  deal with the desire to cross-dress or bring out your
: feminine side if and when it happens.  it is more important that you
: get comfortable with who you are now than that you charge off seeking
: other things that might be different.  so relax. :)  it sounds like 
: you already have plenty to do.

Amen. I second that. 


//gisle

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