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From: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: astrology usefulness
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:33:26 EST
Reply-To: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

JK> Saturn does not represent destructive forces, it represnts
JK> (amongst>other things) your character, self-discipline,

TT>Well, the way I look at it, Saturn is the destructive vibration that
TT>forces you to strengthen your character, apply self-disipline, etc.,
TT>in order to survive the onslaught.

   Saturn deals with the process of consolidation. Getting rid of all
   the unnecessary things in our life that confine us and getting down
   to essentials. It does'nt really destroy as much as eliminate.

   Pluto is more concerned with destroying parts of our personality or
   life that need to be regenerated.

JK>  If you don't mind me asking :^)  Has Pluto already conjuncted your
JK>  Ascendant ? Perhaps a change of career ?

TT>Well, I kept thinking that things would get better when Pluto
TT>went out of my 12th house and was safely buried in the first.
TT>Little did I know. The 1980s were incredibly difficult (on average
TT>2 or 3 people I was close to died each year). What's the current
TT>thinking on Pluto?

    Safely buried in the 1st ? Pluto would be considered to be more
    buried in the 12th house (the unconscious)  than in the 1st house.
    The 1st house is where planetary energies usually make themselves
    obvious, in terms of you expressing these energies in the
    environment. Of course, Scorpio ascendant is very secretive and
    resistant to exposing themselves.

    Pluto is associated with regeneration and death, on all levels,
    physical, emotional, mental, & spiritual. It represents very deep
    desires and primal motivations. So many deaths around you would no
    doubt have made you more aware of the shortness of life and the
    important things we sometimes overlook when caught up in the
    everyday world.

TT>"Ye Highlands and Ye Lowlands, Oh where haw ye been?
TT>They hae slay the Earl of Murray, and Lady Mondegreen."

   Scottish background, ladee ?
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Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: bobw@shiva1.cac.washington.edu (Bob Williams)
Subject: Re: astrologys usefulness (Saturn)
Organization: UW Information Systems
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:04:37 GMT

I guess I tend to follow Sarah's line of thought on this one.  Reality
checks and the activities associated therein are not necessarily negative
over the long run.  It's failure to realize the lessons learned -- and
act on them -- that might lead to negativity.

I think people tend to malign Mars in a similar fashion.
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: roy@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Roy deCarvalho)
Subject: RE: Stationary Direct Positions
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:36:31 GMT

}

RE: Stationary Planets

Stationary planets are powerful (indeed, extremely powerful) 
when used in progressions. When an outer planet is by 
progression several years stationary to direct or stationary 
to retrograde their power increases ten-fold (the ST to D 
in particular) and dominates the theater of operations of 
the native. I have seen this several times in my astrological
practice. In fact when I want quickly to spot "events" in 
the life span of a native I immediately look at the ephemeris 
if there will be by progression a stationary outer planet. It 
helps you zoom into major life-events. One other strategy 
is to check in a table of eclipses for solar eclipses 
conjunct (3 degrees) any important chart feature (personal 
planets and angles, in particular) but this is already 
another story.

Regards,
-- 
Roy J. deCarvalho
ROY@SUNYIT.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: czychi@bernina.ethz.ch (Gary Czychi)
Subject: PC Globe (MacGlobe) Fax # of maker wanted. 
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:44:49 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for the fax number of the company who makes the PC Globe and the
MacGlobe programs.  I'd like to buy MacGlobe, but want to be sure to be able
to get upgrades to Switzerland, where I live.

Thanks a lot for any help.

  Gary

    Gary T. Czychi          University of St.Gallen

       czychi@alpha.unisg.ch (preferred host)
         czychi at csghsg52   (=bitnet)
           czychi@bernina.ethz.ch
             Switzerland
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From: raab@vlsi.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Andreas Raab)
Subject: Astrolog 2.25 Executable for IBM
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:32:25 GMT
Reply-To: raab@vlsi.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Andreas Raab)
Organization: FG VLSI-Systeme    Informatik    TH Darmstadt
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Please help!

I spent the whole afternoon today trying to compile Astrolog for the
IBM PC. Needless to say that it didn't work, so I'm a bit frustrated
now.

I wanted to give the disk with the program to a friend as birthday
present next wednesday, so time is pressing, too.

Could one kind soul *please* send me the binary via email?

Thank you in advance,

	Andreas

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From: sbp@milton.u.washington.edu (Sarah Phillips)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: astrologys usefulness (Saturn)
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:42:45 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I think you can say Saturn is destructive if you find it so,
but in a way its a question of semantics. Saturn focuses on 
structure and integrity, and gets rid of the superfluous. I 
personally do not see Saturn as destructive (even thought it
may feel like it sometimes) in any essential way.
From: hpa@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (Himesh Patel)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Birthchart program.
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:43:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK

Hi,
	Does anyone know of were I can get some (public domain) software
that will generate a birthchart in Postscript?  Or any other software
that might do something similar?
	Thanks in advance,
		Himesh.
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin)
Subject: Re: Unhappy Stacey (was Re: astrologys usefulness (Saturn))
Organization: AUS
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:52:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.162607.27671@lester.appstate.edu>, CONEGA@APPSTATE.EDU (Greg Cone) writes:
> 
> In <1992Aug19.154023.11565@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu writes:
>  

> > However, I do need a little couch time. I've got transiting Sat conj my descendant
> > at the moment (18 deg Aquar). I also have transiting Pluto trining my Sun (I'm a
> > Scorpio rising, also), and I'm in a terrible funk. I can post the rest of my chart,
> > ...
> > Thanks-
> > Stacey 
> 
> I agree, Liz Greene's books are great!
> I believe you meant to state that you've got transiting Sat *square* your
> descendant rather than conj.  I think your current dissatisfaction may be
> more indicated by the approaching double opposition of both Uranus and
> Neptune to your Sun.  They are currently at about 17 deg Cap.  I can't
> offer details at this time about what all that means.  Perhaps someone
> else reading a.a could offer his/her opinion.
> Good luck!
>   
> 
Well, I guess it would help if I could get it straight. Transiting Saturn is conj the nadir.

I can buy your statement about Uran-Nep. I definitely feel confused and unable to come to any
decision. I feel like I'm six years old and I'm trying to make up my mind about what I want
to be when I grow up. 

So, what does one DO in these circumstances? Sit and wait? Or do something, even if it's wrong? 

Stacey
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: astro v2.71
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:01:21 GMT

na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nicolas Alejandro Arauz) writes:

>I was just wondering if anyone knows if I could find Astro 2.71 (the
>excellent astrology program), on some FTP site somewhere over the
>Internet.  Thanks a lot!

ditto.

However - how good is good?  I once paid for a computer-generated horoscope
which was so full of contradictions it was funny!  Case-statement based
programs don't seem to handle contradictory results (makes sense, doesn't it?)
The difficult part when facing a printout with contradictions is - which
statement is correct?

I gather *real* astrologers use their intuition when faced with these types
of problems?

Rob Geraghty
From: na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nicolas Alejandro Arauz)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: astro v2.71
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:18:36 GMT
Organization: Junior, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I was just wondering if anyone knows if I could find Astro 2.71 (the
excellent astrology program), on some FTP site somewhere over the
Internet.  Thanks a lot!
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: remmey@alliant.alliant.com (Linda Remmey)
Subject: Astrology Help vs Physic
Organization: Alliant Computer Systems Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:34:55 GMT

I have been informed by two physics that I have experienced a much 
pain in my life and that I need to seek assistance.  I have never
really seen a physic, only made a couple of telephone calls.  The
information presented to me on my birtdate and little else was
quite astonishing.

It is my objective to find some help through astrology, not that
I doubt the physics, only that I feel more comfortable dealing 
with charts and something I can actually see - making predictions.

PLEASE EXCUSE ME IF THIS BELONGS IN ALT.DIVINATION!

Any help or guidance this group can show me would be greatly 
appreciated.  I currently live in the MetroWest area of Boston, MA.

Statistics (In case anyone is curious) are:

Born:	Feb 15, 1953  12:33 am	North Little Rock, Pulaski County, 
				Arkansas

Name:	Linda Fay Wilson (on birth certificate)

THANKS FOR ANY AND ALL YOUR HELP!

Linda
From: astrolog@byron.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: North Node transits
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:47:38 GMT
Organization: University of Washington Computer Science

In article <1992Aug12.193946.14675@husc3.harvard.edu> magliano@husc10.harvard.edu (Marcia Magliano) writes:
>Could anyone offer any suggestions for interpreting transits of the
>North Node?  These transits are not discussed in books I use, including
>Robert Hand's 'Planets in Transit'.  I had not given these transits
>any thought until just a few days ago, when I noticed that the NN is 
>cnjuncting my sun (and opposing my moon)!  Thank you!

Here's the way I'd look at it. The north node represents evolution,
personal growth, and the fulfillment of karmic goals. The sign and
house where one's natal north node lies, can be taken to be the
greatest direction where they can potentially grow. This is of course,
always opposite the south node, which represents their past
experiences and what has already been mastered. Together, the two
nodes form an "arrow" pointing across the chart. One should strive to
make the break from the old south node routines, and experience the
new growth that the north node offers. Doing this is never easy, as
evidenced by the fact that the nodes are always retrograde. The
current position of the node indicates where society as a whole can
best progress at the present time. Therefore, a transit of the north
node over a natal planet, wound indicate that one has a good
opportinity for growth if they work with issues dealing with the
planet in question. In your case, for a month or two you should give
special emphasis to sun issues - personal identity, aliveness,
self-expression, energy and so on, which at this time offers a great
opportunity for growth. Pay attention to what house this transit is in
too, of course. The north node takes about 18.5 years to make a
complete round of the zodiac, therefore every 18.5 years one has a
nodal return, where the natal issues of karma, personal evolution, and
so on come to a focus.

>magliano@husc.harvard.edu
>magliano@husc.bitnet
>"You can't read everything you believe."

Maybe not, but you *can* believe everything you read ;)

- Walter Pullen
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Uranus/Nept conj. natal Moon?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:45:59 GMT

Apparently my natal Moon (17Cap10) is experiencing a conjunction with 
Uranus and Neptune at present.  I was wondering what sort of implications
this might have, and for how long.  If it matters, my Moon is in the 4th 
house.  Any helpful replies can be e-mailed to cosulliv@sfu.ca.  Thanks!
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cosulliv@sfu.ca
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From: slibman@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Sanford Libman)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: PC Globe (MacGlobe) Fax # of maker wanted.
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:17:02 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for the fax number of the company who makes the PC Globe and the
>MacGlobe programs.  I'd like to buy MacGlobe, but want to be sure to be able
>to get upgrades to Switzerland, where I live.

The number from a 2 year old demo disk is:  602-968-7196

The voice number is 602-730-9000

The company is PC Globe, Inc.

Good luck.

-Sandy
>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: North Node transits
From: magliano@husc10.harvard.edu (Marcia Magliano)
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:39:45 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Could anyone offer any suggestions for interpreting transits of the
North Node?  These transits are not discussed in books I use, including
Robert Hand's 'Planets in Transit'.  I had not given these transits
any thought until just a few days ago, when I noticed that the NN is 
cnjuncting my sun (and opposing my moon)!  Thank you!


-- 
magliano@husc.harvard.edu
magliano@husc.bitnet

"You can't read everything you believe."
From: kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Broken cars, retrogrades, and psychic ability (?)
Date: 23 Aug 92 09:26:43 GMT


Hi.  I'm new to this group although I've been (very) lightly following
Astrology, Numerology, Tarot, and Psychic phenomena.  I have a couple of
questions:

first, although the Mercury retrograde is over, my car's battery died 
yesterday, and then after a failed jump-start, it started by using another
battery.  However, as I was driving home, the "fasten seat belts" and
"check engine" lights came on and stayed on, plus the engine was running
like it had never been tuned up in its 8-year life.  This all started on Sat.

Second, I'm a Pisces (DOB 3/11/67) and I've been told by a psychic friend
of mine that I have psychic potential, as do many pisces.  I was just 
wondering if there are any other pisces out there who are psychic that I
could ask some questions, that's all.  I've had some pretty wierd things
go on in the past that I never really paid attention to (such as dreaming
about Grace Kelly's death the night before she died and a similar dream
the night before President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was assassinated).  I've
just recently tried to make use of any potential I have in this area, 
describing to my aforementioned friend of something I saw him seeing on his
trip to Amsterdam.  He won't return for a few more days, so it remains to
be seen if I'm right.  He said if he sees the scene I described, he'll take
a photo of it and send it to me.  Sorry if this is not the correct newsgroup
to post something of this sort, but I was just interested in your opinions.

Ken
From: mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Books
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:36:44 GMT
Reply-To: mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk)
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

In article <1992Aug20.011326.21580@microsoft.com> petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:
>Yes, If you hit a certain frequency, all the lights at the
>intersection turn red.  Then you have to stop.  Not quite
>that useful, unless you're chasing someone.

People are always telling me that ambulances can do just the opposite,
and change the light to green in the direction they're going.  This
seems to make more sense than turning the light red.  But anyway, I'm
just spreading urban legends, and this has nothing to do with
cyberpunk anyway...
  
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: doom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner)
Subject: Re: Latest Mondo 2000
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: alt
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:27:23 GMT

drennan@acfcluster.nyu.edu (XIXAX) writes:

>Exactly the point! The article I wrote on alternative interfacing with a
>computer was meant to be a challenge to the prevailing notion that one must
>wait for VR or any other hitech to hit desktop; that one must wait for 
>the tech to filter down.

>Many believing the hype around VR are content to dream about stuff, and hope
>that they will be part of the elite few chosen to use such products...I tend to
>think that the future will be in the hands of those challenging this idea and
>willing to adapt tech to their own needs.

Ah, an illustrious author in our midst.  I hadn't realized. 

Yeah, that was a neat article in a lot of ways, though from
my perspective, a little on the obvious side.  It was
definitely a street-tech-for-begginers sort of thing...
which is, I suppose, what Mondo needs just now.

It is true, that R.U.Sirius and all seem to be a bit much on
the gosh wow side of things, rather than the kind of people
likely to grab a soldering iron... lately it seems to me
that we need visionaries with a more practical side,
visionaries who can work to bring about their visions...
because it isn't often you can talk someone else into
working on *your* vision.  

There's definitely a need for a cyberpunk Ciarcia... someone
who actually *builds* their weird little ideas, to act as an
inspiration for the rest of us. 

You know that article in the current issue of Mondo, about
the "Panopticon" and so on (it was written by a New York
Times/Atlantic Magazine dude, can't remember the name).  I
thought it was a really interesting article in a lot of
ways, well-written, literary, informed... but the overall
attitude/message (technology is evil, video surveillance
technology is infecting us) cries out for a rebuttal.  I
mean, what about the Rodney King incident, where a private
video camera blew the lid on decades of abuse of authority?
(And there are other incidents... years before Rodney King,
there was "the battle of Tompkins square" in New York, where
private cameras caught cops in the act doing things like
taping over their badge numbers, kicking demonstrators on
the ground, etc.).    

What I'd like to see is an article about how to build a baby
spy "satelite": take a radio controlled model airplane,
mount a CCD camera and transmitter on it with some simple
optics (pinhole even?) and see what kind of pictures you can
get...
From: ric@daimi.aau.dk (Richard J|rgensen)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Ender's Game
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:14:20 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

If you can define a genre, it's dead!

THOR
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Non-conformism
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:22:24 GMT
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug13.105343.3546@microsoft.com> petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:
>As for viruses, well, people say they write them 'cause they are
>against the establishment.  Well, generally they tend to hurt folk
>like secerataries, home users, etc.  Are they the establishment you
>are out to hurt?

Malevolent viruses I agree are a scourge to the planet, and I have
no appreciation for their writers.

I think people write viruses because they are engrossed with
creating a kind of life form.  I don't know why people write
malevolent viruses, perhaps just so people pay attention to their
"new-born."  One could write a fast-spreading virus that does nothing.
(Of course, the INTERNET Worm was supposed to be benevolent...
 that's why I can't get too mad at its author)


-Thomas
From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: william gibson/aliens
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:25:53 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

On 08-20-92 DAYNE MILLER wrote:

DM|Does ANYONE out there know how I can get my hands on a copy of William
DM|Gibson's original screenplay for ALIENS^3? I'd prefer an on-line version,
DM|but info about where I could get a hard copy would be appreciated too.
DM|
DM|     Someone in the rec.arts.sf.movies newsgroup mentioned that this
DM|group had posted a synopsis of that screenplay a few months ago. Anybody
DM|got a copy?
DM|
DM|     ANY, repeat ANY, help on this would be much appreciated. Please post
DM|anything you might know or (better yet) e-mail me.

No, don't email, post it here for the many of us who'd love to
see it. Thanks.

...eliot                                         |
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From: daynem@byron.u.washington.edu (Dayne Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: William Gibson/ALIENS^3
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:54:35 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Does ANYONE out there know how I can get my hands on a copy of William 
Gibson's original screenplay for ALIENS^3? I'd prefer an on-line version,
but info about where I could get a hard copy would be appreciated too. 

     Someone in the rec.arts.sf.movies newsgroup mentioned that this 
group had posted a synopsis of that screenplay a few months ago. Anybody
got a copy?

     ANY, repeat ANY, help on this would be much appreciated. Please post 
anything you might know or (better yet) e-mail me.

     Thanks-

           -Dayne Miller
              daynem@u.washington.edu
From: megazone@rivdell.UUCP (Megazoner)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Non-conformism
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:40:27 CDT
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

ice@skynet.uucp (Ice) writes:

> If that's _all_ they do in their attempts to be non-conformist, I'd laugh
> in their face. I want to hear about their work on stealth viruses, or
> making another internet worm (fuck you robert morris, you fucked up), or
> a plan to disseminate an electronic version of The Anarchist Cookbook.
> 


 Are you saying that tossing viruses around or hacking into peoples 
systems to create choas is a great example of nonconformity?

  MI

 BTW, Robert Morris didn't fuck up. It worked, didn't it?

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