From: tdober@llnl.gov (TDO)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: a tiny bit worn out
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:39:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: llnl

In article <1992Nov13.043033.7258@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) wrote:

[Sad Tale of Woe deleted]

> So I've decided (after some thought) to make this a hug-request.

I take these hug-requests Very Seriously Indeed, so....



*hug*           *hug*   *hug*           *hug*            *hug*
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*hug*hug*hug*hug*hug*   *hug*           *hug*  *hug*
*hug*           *hug*   *hug*           *hug*  *hug*          *hug**hug*
*hug*           *hug*   *hug*           *hug*  *hug*               *hug*
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*hug*           *hug*       *hug*   *hug*              *hug*   *hug*
*hug*           *hug*           *hug*                      *hug*



There.

Better now?  :-)

> tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
> : mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:
> : 
> : >When I shop for jewellery (often with street-traders), I find I don't
> : >want an ankh (bad religious vibes); 
> : 
> : Hang on, isn't it an Egyptian symbol of life? I wear an ankh suspended from
> : a dolphin-ring and chain on occasion.
> 
> Oops.  Time to refresh my database.  You are, of course, quite right.
> That thoughtless "religious vibe" thang dates back to my Evo days, when
> there was much debate about how satanic and evil it was that such an
> occultist symbol was on sale, and <horror> some True Christians [*]
> bought one without knowing what it was, thinking it a neat twist on the
> cross.  I always thought these people were crazy, but still picked up
> their distaste for the symbol.  One more piece of old baggage to throw
> overboard as the ship sails on.

Ah yes...True Christians (tm) and the Terrible Godless Ankh...

I had an encounter with one on this very subject when I was in high school.
She was a friend of my mom's who had come over to visit one afternoon, when
I just happened to be wearing some ankh jewelry. After some desultory small
talk, she asked if I knew the ankh was not only a pagan symbol, but (the
faint of heart may wish to skip this next part) a *sexual* symbol as well.
Oh Horrors! I, of course, knew this--that was exactly why I was wearing
it!--but I lacked the nerve to say so in front of my mom. Frankly, I was
surprised that *she* knew this and had been rude enough to say something. I
just stared at her for a moment, wishing she would do me the great favor of
vanishing from the face of the earth, with an expression on my face of
utter horror and disgust. She, of course, thought I was horrified and
disgusted at the symbolism of the ankh; actually, I was horrified and
disgusted by her narrow minded "I've got the One True Way and everyone else
is damned" attitude. Finally my brain came up with an acceptable response
to the panic-mode "What do I do now?" question and I clapped my hands over
the offending bits of jewelry. They both laughed. I don't know how many
times I have regretted this lost opportunity....


[remainder of article, including what looked to be a truly *verminous*
stats test, deleted]


> Mike Lloyd, B0/1 h- f- t w- g+ k+ s m- e? |    "Bloody nose and burning eyes



TDO (who hopes you feel adequately hugged now--here's one more for the
     road-- *hug*!!)
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