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From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Punisher 2099 #1
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:43:04 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Thor@lcc.edu ( Thor Odinsblood ) writes:

>I figured that Punisher2099 would be the best of the 2099 line and
>it turns out to be the worst.

Worse than Ravage?!! Who would have thought it possible?!!!

>The Thor worship sludge had me reaching for my zippo lighter.

Actually, I thought it was quite amusing in PAD's Spiderman. Although,
I can see how it could easily become tiresome in a lesser writer's hand.

>The art was (dare I say it) even worse than that featured in Spidey2099!

I didn't care for the art in the 1st SM2099, but it seemed to pick up after
that. (No, I don't hate RL)

>1) IronMan2099:	Tony's Starks grandson dons the latest in Stark/Fuji
>                tecknoledgy - a suit of living armour that becomes 
>		one with the wearer.
Possible, but I hope we don't see it. (How many alternate future IronMan/Stark-
relatives are out there now?)

					Jamesa Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
From: mdm@sparc2.prime.com (Michael D. McAfee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: re: SANDMAN: Lucien's Library
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:36:20 GMT
Organization: Computervision


	recordings:
		the albums Buddy Holly made in the sixties, plus his
	eighties comeback album

	television:
		the current 1992 season of the Muppet Show

	misc:
		the Tarot card deck featuring new illustrations
	by Escher (the possibilities with the Hanged Man alone...:)

	Michael, the Chaotic
	disclaimer:  relax, and let the soothing vibrations drive
			away any notions to blame my employer for this
			post
From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: New releases scheduled for March, 1993
Date: 31 Dec 1992 11:58:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

And for those folks who still believe in the benevolence of Marvel comics,
not that March is a slow month for them, and they have 106 different comics
on the schedule.  (DC has 67.)  Wait 'til the summer...

------------------------------
                             |     "What are the odds?!" said Tam, waving a
Jim Drew                     | piece of paper tape.  "*Three* fortunes in a
jrd@frame.com                | row, and *all* the same!"
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     I took the tape and read it aloud.
"Innocent, but not naive."   |     "Hershey... Hershey..."
B(2)h t c k s g+(p) rv p e   |     "He has *Ch*inese *c*ookies confused with
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | *ch*ocolate *k*isses," I told Ron.
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |     "His alliterative attempts are *always*
                             | annoying," Ron replied.
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Gaol House Rock"
From: trumpet-user@oregon.uoregon.edu (Default Trumpet User)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Color me Dark & Streets
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:12:18 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
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Keywords: Streets and dark

Has any one seen the DC Hardcover "Color Me Dark" (I think that's the title
) or the miniseries Streets (prestige format) yet.  Both were announced in
Direct Currents a couple of months ago.

TK
Eugene, Oregon
From: grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Crow of Desperation)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Christmas with Delirium (Spoiler?)
Date: 28 Dec 1992 05:08:28 GMT
Organization: The Church of Pat
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In article <lsmith.725513858@deci> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
*(Family Feud? "Let's have a big hand for the Endless family: Destiny, Dream,
* Desire, Death and Delirium!" I'm figuring that Despair would have more fun
* on This Old House and that Destruction is staying out of family affairs 
* for awhile.)

"One hundred people surveyed, top five answers on the board.  Name
something you do to pass away eternity."

"Uh...meddle in the affairs of mortals?"

"GOOD ANSWER!  GOOD ANSWER!"


Mark "Ding" Lippert 
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: LSH #40, Squires and pages....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:14:25 GMT

I guess I should start with my string of theories on Squire (the ones not shot 
to hell by the news that Drake was adopted).
     ONE: Yo, it *IS* Drake, one of the brainwashings made him think he was 
someone else, a fictitious brother.  Why?  Easy.  When you still know your 
proper ID, you can draw upon your life experience to resist brainwashing.  If 
you think you are someone else, your sense of self is not strong enough to 
resist mind control.  "Chekov doesn't *have* a brother"
     TWO: How do anti-energy beings reproduce, anyway?  Maybe Drake budded, but
since the replicant was exactly the same, he was passed off as a brother 
rather than admit he was a mother.
     THREE: No *known* blood relatives.  Maybe he had a brother, John Doe let's
call him, since we have no idea what name he would have been raised under.  
John knew about his brother, but thought it best to not make contact, for 
whatever reason, probably fear or some baser emotion.  When Drake went MIA in 
Black Dawn, John's guilt over never telling Drake he existed broke something in
him.  John threw decided to commit suicide in a particularly symbolic manner, 
throwing himself into the same kind of reactor Drake was burned in.  And lo and
behold he got the same powers.  Renaming himself Squire (to the Knight that 
was Drake) Burroughs, he made his way to Shanghalla, where Wildfire's now empty
containment suit lay on/in his grave.  Entering it, he showed up on Earth and 
joined the LSH.  But he was unstable and eventually convinced to retire.  Then 
the Dominators got their hands on him and the rest is retcon history.  
Actually, note that Squire says "...eat raw energy..." not anti-energy.  Maybe 
he had a slightly different reaction to the reactor.

     Okay, on to other stuff.  Cocheta Drisden, the mind controller is 
obviously a Sklarian with a dye job.  The skin color and the "weak male minds" 
bit support this.  Nura obviously had someone point out how trashy she looked 
acting like a vamp with all that weight, so she used the available tech to 
remove the weight.  Who's the green dude?  Pulsar Stargrave?
     Dave Van Domelen, off to do the Slapstick Annotation....
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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Annotated Slapstick #4, my version
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.045613.22473@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) writes:
>Page 10:
>     Panel 1: Morones may be the Ramones.  Dr. Smith and the Robots?  Oh, the 
>pain, the pain....  A flag flying at night?  For shame.
>     Panel 2: I can't quite place the lyrics, but I'm sure this is a parody
>of a real song. 

Um, the song is "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones, making calling them
the Morones even sillier. It's not a parody, those are the actual lyrics.

"September 18 --In Olympic action, sprinter Ben Johnson wins the 100-meter
dash, the 200-meter hurdles, the pole vault, platform diving, table tennis and 
tae kwon do.  "I felt very good today," says the Canadian athlete, although not
in any recognizable language."  --Dave Barry's 1988 Year in Review 
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com (Andy Young)
Subject: Re: Creation of rec.arts.comics.vertigo
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:07:43 GMT
Organization: Nosferatu U.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Michael A. Chary (mac7@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
>The Vertigo imprint isn't even out.  Speculation that it will
>support traffic should until comics that Vertigo on the cover
>appear.

I agree; it would be wise to wait and see if DC sticks with the Vertigo
line - Lately, DC has been very fickle (GL:Mosaic, Impact, Dr.Fate, JSA,
etc etc).

--
Andy.

andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com	Hewlett Packard	- Support Materials Operation
TSN: AndyY, Box 24491           8050 Foothills Blvd, Roseville, CA 95678
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From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with Fish Police?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:16:41 GMT


>   The original series was supposed to be from #1 - #26; #0 was
>his (sort of) practice issue that got printed after Fish Police caught
>on.  (Yes, it WAS published).
>   One thing that truly bugs me though:
>   The whole series was supposed to end and all plot threads were supposed
>to be tied up in #26; AND I NEVER FOUND A COPY OF IT !!!!!
>  Admittedly, I was out of the country a few summers, but I had a standing
>order at my comix shop, and the owner never saw it; I checked local back
>issue stores here, and in some NYC stores and I never saw it.

	the history of fish police is somewhat confused so i'll just list
what's out that _I_ have or have concrete info on.

the fish police tpb(warner books)-reprints issues 1-4(hairballs) of the
		original fishwrap issues in color
the fish police special(comico)-color, takes place before fish police #1
the fish police 1-11(fishwrap)-B&W self-published by steve
the fish police1-17(comico)-reprints the original fishwrap run in color and
	then continues the story
the fish police 18-26(apple)-new publisher and a return to B&W. the story ends
		in issue 26
the fish police(marvel)-reprinting the whole series in color again. but the
	original poster is collecting these and i am not so they already know
	what needs to be known about it.
     

        and my comments about the series.  by far one of my all-time favorite
comics. steve is an incredibly funny writer. and it _all_ connects. after
reading the whole series and then going back and reading start to finish, it
all falls into place and rewards rereading. classic

synopsis of issue  26 follows. SPOILER ALERT!!!! SPOILER ALERT!!!           
                                            





                                                                              
  

                                                    





  

gill returns home in a reprise of issue one. this time completely aware of
who he is and what's about to happen. be tells angel that he knows that it's
all a ruse and sends her on here way, thus aborting the entire plotline and
escaping the trap. he then sets out saying goodbye to everyone and returning to
the _real_ world and letting the fish police plotline start over again the
way it was supposed to and  all of the characters will retain no memory of the
corrupted plotline.

and that's all folks!






































-- 
corey w nelson		|  Prayers to a Broken Stone: a Sisters of Mercy/Goth
keeper of the Sisters	|  electronic fanzine. Issue 3 out Nov 10th. Featuring
of Mercy FAQ, DISCOG	|  an Interview with Andrew Eldritch, Strange Boutique
and several others...	|  and Infamous Menagerie. back issues available
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From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Subject: Future Imperfect -- in jokes
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:06:02 GMT

This may have been discussed already, since my service is slow, but the 
re are some great injokes in Incredible Hulk:Future Imperfect.
In the relics room (has anyone made up a list of items). If you look on 
the shelf with the Red Skull's Skull, you can see the Bottle City of 
Kandor. Also in the jars, one is labled "Kent" others are "P. David,
"G. Perez"  (sory the first names are given) and one for B. Eden,
Also "Jean Grey, (again?)"

Dascoser
From: juan_e@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Black artists condemn DC (was Corporate Mainstream...)
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:19:04 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <cbko02sq2e0Z01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams) writes:
> In article <1992Dec13.044036.25340@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec11.211146.3161@dorsai.com> mycroft@dorsai.com (Keith Kushner) writes:
>>>: >If you want truly Africn American comics, heed the slogan of ANIA.
>>>: >"Black written. Black drawn. Black distributed. Black marketed. Black
>>>: >Owned. Black Controlled. BLACK POWER"
> 
>>>And if any company had a slogan like that, but substituting "white" for
>>>"black", it would be deemed racist and sued out of existence... Neat
>>>double standard, no?
> 
>>What double standard?
>>Hello?  Hello?  Any oppressed caucasians out there?  No?  Didn't think so.
> 
> Yeah, actually. Women.
> 

Hey HEY hey!

What about us Asians huh!?  Anybody defend us?  Anybody make us into 
superhereos?  Or actually make an oriental hero who does not have any irish in 
him?    HELLLLLL NNNNNOOOOOOOO!  C'mon let's get a super sumo wrestler out 
there by Marvel, DC, or IMAGE (God knows they will market anything for a buck);
imagine a sumo wrestler in a cape flapping in the wind, diaper held up by a
utility belt (Hell if Superman can get away with wearing his underwear outside
his union suit for fifty years -so can Super Sumo).


                                      thanks
                                       
                                           Ned
                                            St. Peter's College  
 
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From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 39
Keywords: sandman annotation
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:25:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.040245.10316@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> gls@windmill.ATT.COM (der kleine Sicherman bin-ich) writes:
>> Page 9 panel 6:  No refs on Shangtu.  Presumably a city in China, possibly
>> an obsolete name.
>
>Have you never heard of Xanadu?

My online Webster has the first reference to this place in 1798, when
Coleridge wrote the poem Kubla Khan.

>> Page 16 panel 6:  No refs on ibn Battuta or Hwen Ts'ang.
>
>Muhammad ibn-Batuta (or -Battuta) (1304-1369?) traveled more widely than Polo,
>believe it or not.

There was a Buddhist monk named Xuan Zang who made a pilgrimage to India in
search of holy scriptures, returning to China in AD 445.  I'm not sure if this
is the intended reference, but the second of the two names is the "same" given
two different transliterations.  In any case, this monk's travels also were
"novelized".

>> Page 17 panel 4:  Still no refs on Taklamakan.
>
>It's a perfectly good desert in Turkestan.  As a gloss on Green's commentary,
>printing has been petrifying human institutions for 500 years, endowing them
>with unnatural permanence and rigidity.  Computers, on the other hand ...

Longer than 500 years, actually.  Movable type made of wood or ceramic was
introduced around AD 1050 in China.  Wood block printing dates back to the 9th
Century AD.  Pick up a copy of "Technology in World Civilization" by Pacey,
MIT Press, to discover just how common independent innovation was.

Hm.  I have this sinking feeling my library is going to need a few more
additions soon.
From: canevit@utkvx3.utk.edu (Canevit, Craig E.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Good Omens, Crisis, and Watchmen (*spoilers*)
Date: 2 Jan 93 07:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

and I was wondering about the ending:


























Namely, in each of the aforementioned titles, a Really Big Event occurs.
Sort of. Afterwards, nobody, or at least very few people are aware of 
what happened. You've seen this before, in several old JLA's and in at
least one All-Star Squadron (I think GL went beserk on Japan?). ANyway,
can anybody come up with the first time this idea of 'something really
big has happened, and it's best that we all forget...' was used? Is it
recent (I can think of the Avengers' Korvac saga...)? Is it merely a
dice of comics or science fiction?    Just curious...
	Craig "just enough of a bastard to be worth liking" E. Canevit
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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: Valiant Issues
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Boyz from the Dwarf
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.173857.11689@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts) writes...
>Since the thread on Rai #0 died so soon, I thought I would start
>something new.  In the latest issues from Valiant, SIX new titles
>were announced, as well as assorted other details.

	Let's see, six new titles, at about $2.50 each, is another... $15 a
month... $%!%#, these Valiants are getting expensive! I may have to drop
every non-Valiant title to be able to pick up the new six. Of course, dropping
X-Force can't be too much of a mistake.

>The last two were un-named but planned.  Other projects include
>an X-O Manowar #0 issue and a Bloodshot #0 issue.  In addition,
>a Solar TPB , X-O TPB, and a Magnus TPB.

	I don't know that I like the TPB idea. Yeah, they're great for folks 
who don't have those issues, but they knock the price down on existing issues.
After all, once the 2nd print of Solar #10 came out, the first print wasn't 
quite as hot anymore. (I know, I'm being selfish...)

	So, what did everyone think about the new issue of X-O? Bart Sears'
pencils were a very nice change from the Valiant "house style", and I'm glad
to see some continuity from Unity (Aric wanting all the dinos dead). 

	Joe Delisle

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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:04:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.052251.3596@panix.com> carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink) writes:
>  Another fannish reference in BG: ZGfH:  one of the X-Tel executives 
>mentioned is named "Soukup" after San Francisco fan Martha Soukup 

I don't think Martha would be primarily considered a fan these days;
she's sold in the double digits of stories and has been nominated for
both the John Campbell Award for Best New Writer and the Hugo. 

"I think Casper is the ghost of Richie Rich. I wonder how Richie died?"
"Perhaps he realized how hollow the pursuit of money is and took his own life"
  --Bart and Lisa Simpson
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE)
Subject: Buy Squeek the Mouse! (March catalogue)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:25:44 GMT

Squeek the Mouse is here! And Squeek the mouse kicks Itchy and Scratchy's
ass. It makes Lobo look like Strawberry Shortcake. It is highly recommended.

Ask your dealer for the latest NBM offerings in the March catalogue. Both
volumes of Squeek the Mouse is highly recommened. See Squeek rip the cat
to shreds, blow him up and all sorts of cool stuff. It BLOWS Tom and Jerry
off the map. A very sick depraved violent comic of NO socially redeeming
value that makes Wile E look like St Francis of Assisi. 

I read this baby in the French comic magazine _ECHO DES SAVANES_. Way
cool. Believe me, if you saw volume #1, volume #2 will completely 
blow away #1. Sicker, more violent, more repulsive, more funny (with
absolutely amazing corpse sequences with the poor pussycat). Almost
makes you want to give up Sylvester&Tweety and Tom&Jerry forever.....

A book to behold....

(amazing for an Italian strip - no text. Oh what people miss by buying only
-- 
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From: ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu (cartoon boy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Mr. Peanut sigs
Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:02 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I, for one, find one of the more interesting things to read on the newsgroup 
is Lance's Mr. Peanut Chronicles.

----------------------------
   Thomas "ted4646" Deeny  | "You must be the guy they call `Squiddie'.  I hear
  (ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu) |  you've been making up fictional quotes about me.
   The non-controversial   |  Do ya have anything to say before I drill ya full 
    Battalion Cartoonist   |  of lead?"   _Mr Peanut meets Lance Smith_

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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: Elvis Stamp--Parallels?
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:45:33 GMT

I saw this in the Sunday (Dec 27) Boston Herald, and thought it had
some interesting resonances:

Christopher Cox writes an article about the upcoming Elvis stamp, all
the related merchandise and hoopla, and how it looks like it will
break all sales records.  But the part that got me was the following:
[excerpted without permission]
...Although the public and the Postal Service are all shook up by the
upcoming Presley commemorative, serious philatelists remain unmoved.
   "It's just another stamp," said William Fletcher, owner of
Lexington's Battle Green Stamp Co.  "The Postal Service is trying to
create interest in collecting, and I support that, but it's not a
collectible."  
   Kathleen Wunderly of the American Philatelic Society said, "There
will be several hundred million of these stamps printed, and the main
factor in value is always rarity and scarcity."

Geez--change the names, and you could be talking about Superman #75.

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