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From: brentw@coopsol.com (Brent Williams)
Subject: Re: Barney and Thomas fans
Keywords: slippers, slipper socks
Organization: Cooperative Solutions, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:07:00 GMT

goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg) writes:

>Hi everyone. For all you Barney and Thomas the Tank Engine fans,
>yesterday I was in a K-Mart here in Maryland, and they had
>slipper socks in both varieties. These are for the littler kids -
>the biggest was size 9-10, which should (please) fit my 4  year
>old son this winter. Just thought this might be of interest!
>                             Patti Twigg  

For Barney die-hards (my 3yo) JC Penney has really gotten big into t
the merchandising of Barney -- the local store has an entire Barney 
Boutique where they have t-shirts, socks, shoes, hats, bedding, lunch 
boxes, and tons of other stuff (according to wife's description -- I 
haven't been there).  I haven't seen much (if any) barney stuff at 
the local K mart.


-brent

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brentw@coopsol.com
Cooperative Solutions makes Ellipse, a development environment for
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From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Re: 20 month old: disrobing
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:54:46 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
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In article <209180006@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com>, janeth@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Janet Helmbolt) writes:
|> ...Perhaps you
|> could get some blanket sleepers and then pin the top of the zipper so it could
|> not be unzipped.

What if the child gets too hot? Being too hot is worse than being cold, 
both in terms of comfort and in terms of weakening the system so that 
the child will tend to get sick (just my opinion, no literature search 
here :-).

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: 889thurman@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: RE: first plane trip
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:36:44 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi all!!

after reading some of the other stories about kid's first plane trips,
I thought I'd add my own.
At the time, son Kevin was 3 1/2 and daughter Erin was 2 1/2, and we
were taking a plane from Detroit Metro to Kansas City Intl?
The kids were excited about being inside the plane, but when Kevin was
getting settled into his seat he had a worried look on his face.  Then
he asked "Mommy, is THIS plane going to crash??" Some really horrible thoughts
about that possibilty ran through my mind, and I wasn't sure what the "right"
response should be.
I finally answered "Noooo, of course not!!", to which he replied, "oh, ok!!"
and proceeded to settle in for a good time, with a big smile replacing the
anxious look he'd had before.  
I found a little simple reassurance went a long way, rather than trying to
reason things out ....or admitting that there ways always that distinct
possibility!!!

Parri * smile *
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: 7 mo old pulling hair
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:51:45 GMT

(Someone asked ...)
> OK, I've just about had it!  I'm about ready to make an appointment to get
> my hair cut off (hair that I've been growing for 3 years because my hubby
> has this THING about long hair).  At 7 months, Paul still loves to YANK
> (and I mean really YANK) at my hair to the point of me screaming.   Before
> I get to the "what-did-you-do-to-your-hair?" stage, can anyone tell me
> at what age babies STOP pulling mommy's hair?  I've tried putting my
> hair in a pony tail, but he still manages to grab a few strands.  Any other

Well, I am a mom of an almost-2 and I still have my long hair.  Anna does
not pull my hair any more, but it does get yanked quite often when I am
on the floor playing with my kids.

I don't really remember when the worst of the hair-pulling stopped, though.
Maybe about 15 months old or so?  I think it started happening about the 
same time I got Anna to consistently understand "NO".

-- Misty

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cathy@octel.com (Cathy Kearns)
Subject: Re: What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:50:14 GMT

>In article <1992Nov12.161544.7513@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes) writes:
>>Alright people.  I am 26 yrs old, currently expecting our first
>>child in January, and I'm also a BIG Metallica fan, in fact, the baby
>>and I attended a Metallica concert, the ticket stubs are already in
>>the baby's scrap book which we've started. I made and wore a shirt
>>that says on it "Head Banger Under Construction" with an arrow
>>pointing to my belly.  Yes I'm a head banger and *HOPE* my child
>>and children are too :,).

My husband and I listen to a normally listen to a station that calls
itself "modern rock", Jane's Addiction, Morissey, B-52s, that type
of stuff, but we also listen to Classical and other music.

What does our daughter like?  Sousa Marches and Mariachi music.  Go
figure.  (They always seem how to pick exactly the type of thing
that would really get on your nerves.  I'm betting christine's
will go for Frank Sinatra in a big way.)

						Cathy


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: harvey@rtsg.mot.com (Anne M. Harvey)
Subject: Gifts for Day-care
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:01:25 GMT


My 12 month old daughter, Hannah, is in family day-care.  We would like to
give Hannah's care-giver a Christmas gift.  But I'm a bit unsure about the
etiquette of gift giving and day-care. Hannah's care-giver and her husband
have a pre-school age daughter and a school-age son.  There are three other
children in her care part-time or full-time.

I am wondering whether to give a gift to just the care-giver, a gift her
whole family can use, or smaller separate gifts to the care-giver and her
children?  Also, should we give something to the other children in her
day-care (they are between the ages of 1-3)?

I have no idea what these people would like or what is an appropriate amount
to spend.  We don't have a big Christmas budget but want to recognize the
care-giver as an important part of Hannah's life.  I would really appreciate
any advice or ideas.

thanks, 
anne
aharvey@hpmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Help getting two year old to sleep
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:02:14 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Nov20.215953.2532973@locus.com>, judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
> Well, you can lead a child to bed, but you can't make him sleep.  At least,
> that has been my experience with BOTH children.  So we don't make them sleep.
> We do the bedtime routine and then go to bed.  If they'd prefer playing in 
> their rooms or watching TV or reading, they are free to do so.  The point for 
> us is that we are through being parents.  We are now "off work" so to speak.  

Of course, to simply accept that is to assume that there are no
consequences to a child staying up till all hours.  We find that
getting Daniel out of bed in the morning is a battle, and that he tends
to be really cranky and clingy all morning if he stayed up too late the
night before.  Besides, he doesn't just stay in his room and let us
relax; every ten minutes, he wants to talk to us about something.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Re: Imaginary friends
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:52:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

>From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
>Message-ID: <1992Nov23.003838.26194@ulysses.att.com>
>
>Sigh.  What do you do when your 3 YO son insists that you invite his
>imaginary friend over for a play date?  Fortunately, he didn't throw
>a tantrum over the issue....
 
Why not invite the friend?  I'm sure s/he won't eat much. :)
BTW, is your son an only child?
TAMARA
(An only child who had lots of imaginary friends.)
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From: mbb@keps.kodak.com (Maureen Busch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,sci.med
Subject: Re: 2 year old traumatizes front teeth
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:17:15 GMT
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems

In article <92318.151348MBS4@psuvm.psu.edu> MBS4@psuvm.psu.edu (Michelle Schott) writes:
> [son fell and hit mouth]
>and the pediatrician looked more closely in his mouth.  His front teeth are not
>loose, but the gum above them is purple-black as well as the inside of his lip.
>The pediatrician said don't be surprised if in 2-4 weeks his teeth start to
>turn gray.  He said that the roots of baby teeth are very shallow and it does
>not take much to damage them.  This was a pretty severe trauma to his mouth.
>Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening?  If they start to
>turn gray, is this permanent even if he gets a root canal?  Is there a risk of
>losing the teeth completely?  If they do not turn gray within 4 weeks, does
>this mean that they won't due to this incident?

I don't have experience with this exact situation, but I do have experience
with young children and dental problems.  My advice is to have your family
dentist refer you to a pediatric dentist for a consultation, regardless of
whether the teeth turn gray within 4 weeks.  A pediatric dentist specializes
in children's dentistry, and should be best able to evaluate whether there
was any damage, and discuss your options with you.  In the worst case, s/he 
will recommend that the teeth be removed, although it may be possible to 
apply ceramic caps for cosmetic purposes.  Keep in mind that even if your son
loses these teeth, the permanent teeth will grow in by age 6 or 7, and there
is very little danger of other dental problems (like other teeth shifting).
Also, since the roots are shallow, these teeth can be removed in the office
with novicain (sp?), which is safer than general anesthesia.

We have had very good experiences with a pediatric dentist during some difficult
dental times, and I highly recommend the option.  I was also surprised that
ours was actually cheaper than our regular dentist (I had expected pediatric
dentistry to be a very pricey specialty).
-- 
Maureen Busch
Internet: mbb@keps.com	<--note new address!
UUCP: ...!uunet!munsell!cairo!mbb (I think)
DISCLAIMER:  The opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cathy@octel.com (Cathy Kearns)
Subject: Re: episiotomies.....your doctor is lazy
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:18:53 GMT

In article <owens.721958559@gargoyle.uchicago.edu> owens@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Christopher Owens) writes:
>One thing that has become really clear is that the way to minimize
>your chances of having an episiotomy is by selecting your practitioner 
>carefully, not by trying to argue it out either before or during the
>actual delivery. 

>My wife's OB said: 

>  "I only do them when medically necessary,  Of course, everybody says
>   that; all I can add to reassure you is that my rate of doing them
>   is statistically pretty low (she gave us a number which I forget).
>   But the decision really is a spur-of-the-moment one.  Tears do not
>   always happen gradually over several contractions; sometimes the
>   perineum reaches its limit and then ruptures explosively. I can't
>   promise you that I won't cut, but I can promise that I'll be with
>   you during the pushing phase of labor, massaging and stretching the 
>   perineum as gradually and gently as possible.  If you do end up
>   with an episiotomy, I'll be able to honestly say that I did
>   everything I know how to avoid it."

>That's the kind of answer I'd look for in response to the "what about
>episiotomies?" question, rather than a doctrinaire "I never do them,"
>or "Everybody needs one."  

This is great advice!  I remember my doctor saying, at the first pre-natal
visit, that if I prefered a Bradley Birth I needed to find some one else, 
she was not trained to do Bradley Births and couldn't give me the experience
I was looking for if that was my preference.  She also was very clear 
on epidurals, (she preferred one for her birth, and if I requested one would
have no problem with ordering one), episiotomies, (she tried not to do
them, but it was her experience that she did end up doing them on 80% of
her first time patients), cesarians (though she, and her partners, had an
80% epidural rate! they also had a ~10% C-section rate, which was quite
low for the area.) etc.  She and her partners were very up front about what
they were trained to do, and what they weren't.  I had a very positive 
birth experience because I agreed with their philosophies.  Don't try and
change your doctor's philosophy (mostly, because in the heat of labor you
may find out you didn't make as much a dent in their philosophy as you 
thought) but go for the doctor and/or midwife that wants to do it your
way. Note: this means your doctor may not be perfect for everyone, just
for you.

							Cathy
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Funny things they say (6YO)
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:26:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Davis

Brendan got interested in the recent election, probably because it
was on the news all the time, and his mom and I talked about it a
lot and expressed rather strong opinions about the outcome we
preferred. So everytime we were reading a newspaper or newsmagazine
and came across a political cartoon, Brendan wanted us to read it to
him, even though most of them are WAY over his head. But there was
one cartoon that he liked, a split panel showing Bush in 1988 saying
"Read my lips" and in 1992 saying "Read my resume". So now Brendan
marches around the house saying "Read my lips! Read my resume!"
I guess he's taken his first step toward an awareness of citizenship!

Richard Darsie
From: murthy+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Sesh Murthy)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: re: asthma?
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:22:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.By4zE0.HnD.2
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <199211191423.AA23074@tuna.wang.com>, AMY.UHRBACH@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Amy Uhrbach") writes:
|> 
|> If I were you I'd talk to an allergist.  My son is very allergic, esp. to
|> dust, and this can trigger those symptoms.  He's on nasalcrom, a nose spray,
|> which has worked wonders (he used to scratch his nose til it bled), and is
|> supposed to have no side effects (and I am pretty informed and generally
|> skeptical about drugs).  The asthma drugs are not so benign, but they seem to
|> be necessary in our case.  
My daughter had Asthma when she was 2 years old.  The doctor gave her
something called slobid but that did not work.  We had a terrible time.
For some 6 months she threw up nearly every day and we were really lost.

One day she turned blue around the lips and had us completely panicked.  The 
doctor panicked too.
Then we went to another doctor who was an asthma specialist and he prescribed Intal.
(sodium cromolyn I think.  I think nasalcrom is the same thing but am not sure.)
In the meantime we got every book we could about Asthma and read it.  Intal
cured my daughters problem.  She has not had anything approaching wheezing 
for a year now.  In between she did start wheezing once or twice but this was
when she got a cold.  The doctor told us to put some proventil in her 
intal and give it to her when she got a bad cold and that seems to work well.

She used to keep scratching her nose.  now that has disappeard with the Intal.

Go to an ashthma specialist and ask if you should try intal.  It seems to be
completely harmless and my daughter is fine now.

There is a problem giving her the intal 4 times a day.  This is like religion to
us.  We will not miss this even if we are on a car trip.  She gets it
through a nebulizer.  Maybe it is time we switched to giving it to her
using the puff method.

Anyway, intal is the closest thing to magic there exists.  It has cured my
daughter and may cure yours.  we have seen ZERO side effects.

Sesh Murthy
From: steve@crc.ricoh.COM (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: another lost poem
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:44:17 GMT
Organization: RICOH California Research Center

There's a song called "Logs to Burn"; I don't remember the whole thing
but it's on the album _Winter's Dance_ (do I have the title right? I'm
at work and my music collection is at home) by the Celtic/etc. group
Golden Bough.  You seem to recall a slightly different variant than
the one they sing.
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: Potty Training FAQ, please?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:46:19 GMT


I have a copy from Joanne of the toilet training FAQL.  For the
duration of Joanne's maternity leave, I would be willing to respond
to requests as needed.  I have responded to the two requests on the
net.

-- Misty

mhn@cs.brown.edu

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: >>>> a new fun thread??..kids looking like parents
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:27:48 GMT

In article <cindy.159@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham) writes:
>In article <ssimmons.722455522@convex.convex.com> ssimmons@convex.com (Steve Simmons) writes:
>
>>Actually, the straight black Asian hair is also a recessive gene. Same
>>with the typical black pupils. I am just curious if he has single or 
>>double eyelids??? 
>
>Both of my children have double eyelids (I had to visit a surgeon to
>get mine!  oh please don't flame me, I was very young at the time!)
>The blonde son has slightly almond shaped eyes, whereas my dark-haired
>son has large, round eyes.
>
OK, after checking with my office partner to make sure I am not the only
clueless person on the net, I now have to ask -

What are double eyelids????

The things we learn on misc.kids!

Laura



Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: choi@win48.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Re: vaporizer, anyone? replaces decongestant
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:22:30 GMT

(Allen Warren) writes:
>According to several pediatricians that we have spoken with, there
>*seems* to be evidence that some children being more prone to ear
>infections that others is due to hereditary factors. 

There was a study having to do with ear infections (oh no ...not another study)
of children (about 150 of them, I think) on Easter Island.  Anyway 10% of
the non-native children came down with ear infections while none of the native
children got them.  

Clearly, the solution to preventing ear infections is to give birth on
Easter Island.

diana
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa)
Subject: Sleep deprived parents needing help
Originator: cew@pelham
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:52:50 GMT

Yes, I know this theme has been discussed before, but I still
need some help.  Up until two weeks ago we had a lovely
bedtime routine for our 2.9 year old son.  We gave him
a bath, read a couple of stories, and tucked him in. 
Now, we have the nighttime from hell at our house.

For some reason, he hates being in his room alone.  We
have had to stay with him until he falls asleep, which
can take up to an hour.  Then like clocke work he is
up between 2:15 - 4:15 and wants to come in our room.
Instead one of us gets up and stays until he falls
asleep in his own bed.  He says he doesn't like his
bed or his room and is lonesome.  We leave the hall light on
and he has a tape palyer in his room.  Nothing unusual
is happening at day care or home.  He has been having
problems with fluid in his ears, a cold, and is cutting
his last set of molars.

Last night I was up for about three hours and am no totally
exhausted, plus all of us are gettign grumpy from lack
of sleep.  Little George is particularly whinny.  I am
thinking about putting up the gates across his door and
just letting his have a tantrum (which he did the last
time I closed his door).  He really SCREAMS, it breaks
my heart but how else can we get him to go to sleep on
his own again and stay in his bed all night.  What
has been the experiences of those of you who have
used this approach with an almost three year old.  I
guess I am afraid later in life he will develop some
problem which will be traced back to the fact his parents
let his scream at night and put a gate across his door.
I don't want to close the door because that really upsets
him      

ANy suggestions on how to get him to sleep and to stay asleep
will be greatly appreciated by two tired parents.  Basically,
he says he is lonesome and doesn't like his room.  I have been
thinking about his one of those Mickey Mouse that glows when
you squeeze him.  He has a monkey that he already sleeps with.
Pardon my rambling, chalk it up to fagigue zzzzzzzzzz.  Once
again thank you for all the net support we have gotten in
the past.  We are still working on getting pregnant after my
miscarriage, but I don't think sleep deprivation and worry over
this is helping.

Cathryn W. Chiesa
cew@med.unc.edu

p.s. we are giving him a lot of love and attention so he shouldn't
feel lonesome prior to going to bed.


cew@med.unc.edu
Sorry for rambling on, chalk it up to fatiguezzz
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mcg@asdf.osf.org (Michael Gross)
Subject: Baby at the beach - advice requested
Keywords: beach, sand, cigarete buts, fun in the sun
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:15:04 GMT


-Any advice for making the most out of taking a 9 month
old baby (who can crawl fast and can walk with assistance)
to the beach.

I guess we'll take lots of big blankets and put SPF 100 :-)
lotion on Steven hours before we get to the beach, and try
to keep him out of the sun and make him wear a hat (he hates 
hats).  Oh yea, I tried to put baby sunglasses on him, that
lasted for 3 seconds. 

Reality check: what should we expect, what can we do to make
the beach as much fun as possible.

(I can see him now, eating handfuls of sand, cigarette
buts and bottle caps. Mmmmmm.)

-mcg

P.S.
We're going to Florida to visit with family over Christmas.
Beach time is _not_ optional :-).

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