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From: ibsnat@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gordon Tsuji)
Subject: Picks from HI
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:44:49 GMT

 
December 15, 1992
 
Well, things have not been going well for the computer.  Only 7-7 
this which brings the season record to 98-82-1 against the spread.  
Here are my computer program's plays for this weekend (12/20/92).
 
Favorite         Line        Underdog
Chiefs           8.50          GIANTS     TAKE
49ERS           17.50      Buccaneers     TAKE
EAGLES           3.00        Redskins     TAKE
SAINTS           3.00           Bills     GIVE
Oilers           2.50          BROWNS     TAKE
STEELERS         3.00         Vikings     TAKE
BENGALS          4.50        Patriots     GIVE
PACKERS          6.50            Rams     TAKE
COLTS            3.00       Cardinals     GIVE
LIONS            3.00           Bears     TAKE
BRONCOS            NL        Seahawks     BRONCOS will win
Chargers         1.50         RAIDERS     TAKE
DOLPHINS        10.00            Jets     TAKE
Cowboys          7.50         FALCONS     TAKE
 
 
Home team in CAPS, point spread as of 12/14/92.
GIVE - bet on the favorite to win by more pts than the spread.
TAKE - bet on the underdog plus the points.
NL   - no line, computer just picks a winner.
 
Current Power Ratings:
 
Rank Name         Record       Power   W/L Marg.
---- ----         ------       -----   ---------
  1. Saints       (11- 3- 0)    8.99   11.0/ 3.0
  2. 49ers        (12- 2- 0)    7.06   15.2/ 6.5
  3. Vikings      ( 9- 5- 0)    5.34   15.1/ 6.8
  4. Bills        (10- 4- 0)    5.03   17.2/13.5
  5. Chiefs       ( 9- 5- 0)    4.63   12.7/11.2
  6. Cowboys      (11- 3- 0)    3.96   14.5/10.3
  7. Dolphins     ( 9- 5- 0)    3.63   13.1/12.8
  8. Browns       ( 7- 7- 0)    2.88   10.3/ 8.9
  9. Chargers     ( 9- 5- 0)    2.62   13.7/13.6
 10. Steelers     (10- 4- 0)    2.33   12.1/13.5
 11. Redskins     ( 9- 5- 0)    2.18   13.2/13.8
 12. Oilers       ( 8- 6- 0)    1.71   11.8/ 4.5
 13. Eagles       ( 9- 5- 0)    1.65   13.9/ 6.0
 14. Lions        ( 4-10- 0)    0.16   15.2/11.5
 15. Bears        ( 5- 9- 0)   -0.32   14.8/12.7
 16. Rams         ( 5- 9- 0)   -0.66   10.2/13.0
 17. Raiders      ( 6- 8- 0)   -1.01   16.8/14.0
 18. Broncos      ( 7- 7- 0)   -1.84    8.0/15.0
 19. Jets         ( 4-10- 0)   -2.82    7.8/10.4
 20. Falcons      ( 6- 8- 0)   -2.84   14.0/17.0
 21. Giants       ( 5- 9- 0)   -3.23   14.6/15.3
 22. Colts        ( 7- 7- 0)   -4.09    6.9/20.1
 23. Packers      ( 8- 6- 0)   -4.14   10.1/16.0
 24. Buccaneers   ( 4-10- 0)   -4.48   12.8/14.6
 25. Bengals      ( 4-10- 0)   -5.42   11.0/14.0
 26. Cardinals    ( 4-10- 0)   -6.53    9.5/12.0
 27. Seahawks     ( 2-12- 0)   -8.20    3.5/13.2
 28. Patriots     ( 2-12- 0)   -9.09   12.0/14.1
 
Good Luck,
Daniel
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From: rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: San Fran
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:45:06 GMT

Well they have the best record in the NFL, but this doesn't put 
them in the lead. They are in the lead in the NFC. But since the
Super Bowl is played at a neutral site, it doen't matter whether
or not S.F. has a better record than their AFC opponent.

The Bills lost two Super Bowls. They were favorites in one, and 
underdogs in the other. (Giants, Redskins)
BUT THEY STILL BEAT SAN FRAN THIS YEAR.
(There's some caps lock Bait for the S.F. fans. Let's see how
hard they bite.)

The Bills have home field advantage. For now.

Prediction: (1) if Bills beat Saints - beat Houston in final game
                of season, win two playoff games in Rich Stadium,
                and win Super Bowl.... momentum baby
            (2) if Bills lose to Saints - beat Houston, win a 
                playoff game in Rich Stadium, beat Pitt in
                AFC championship (possibly in Pitt),       
                lose Super Bowl :( 

If (2) happens, I just hope that Dallas isn't the NFC rep. Could you
imagine Buffalo losing to 3 different NFC East opponents in a row.
What's next year? Philly? or Phoenix? ;)
 
--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: non-kickers kicking (was Re: Kickers doing double duty as punters)
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:01:49 GMT

In article <jq!r+!#@lynx.unm.edu> follick@jemez.eece.unm.edu (Jeremy Follick) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.005142.48615@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec9.142539.7580@ncar.ucar.edu>, gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary St
>>rand) writes:

>>I was just watching one of those ESPN shows.  You know the ones, with all of
>>the old clips and such.  Anyway, there was this defensive player, I think his
>>name was Youngblood.  He was really great, and they had Dan Dierdorf, who
>>played against him make some comments on how good.  On this same show, and I
>>believe it was Youngblood, but I could be wrong, they showed a guy sub in as a
>>place kicker and kick a game winning field goal.  A defensive player kicking
>>the game winner!  It was a really great show.  It was just on a few days ago,
>>can anyone back me up?  (Or tell me how wrong I am and who it really was!)

>I'm not familiar with this specific incident, but surely you must know
>that back in the distant past (pre-60's) kickers played regular
>positions too. For example, Lou "The Toe" Groza is in the hall of fame
>as an Offensive Tackle/Kicker.

The most recent non-kicker/non-punter to kick in the NFL that I
know of was John Anderson, LB for the Packers.  In 1979 against
the Jets he hit a 39 yard field goal and made one of two extra
point attempts after Chester Marcol was injured.

In the late 50s and early 60s Green Bay's kicker was Jerry Kramer,
starting offensive guard.

-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: aaw@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Alan Wrench)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Worldwide support for Saints
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:43:33 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research, Edinburgh University

Yup Saints fans come out of the global closet.

Just subscribed to this group half way through the season. It gives me faster
coverage of the games than I can get any other way. Otherwise we get to see
highlights of 2 or 3 Sunday games played in central or eastern time zones
transmitted 8.30-10pm GMT 3.30-5pm Eastern.

Main coverage this sunday will be the Saints Bills game. Should be an exciting
game. 

I've supported the Saints since '87 when they had never had a winning season.
Since then they've never had a losing one. They're looking stonger now than
they've ever been but can they beat the playoff jinx? I dunno but I'm keeping my
fingers crossed.

For some reason the Raiders, niners, bears, dolphins and skins are the teams most
widely supported here. 
Got a chance to see the Saints stuff the raiders when they came to London to play
the pre season American Bowl in '90. Joy.

Keep up the games reports and statistics.
-- 
GO NO. One game at a time.
Alan Wrench


Edinburgh
Scotland
From: harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: RICE BY THE NUMBERS
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:57:15 GMT
Reply-To: harrisl@unssun.UUCP (Larry Harris)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada-Reno

In article <1992Dec12.172321.17875@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <5046@equinox.unr.edu> harrisl@equinox.unr.edu (Larry Harris) writes:
>
>>The Long and Short Of it - Rice's TD receptions by length
>>
>>80 plus yards - 3
>>70 - 79 yards - 3
>>60 - 69 yards - 10
>>50 - 59 yards - 9
>>40 - 49 yards - 12
>>30 - 39 yards - 9
>>20 - 29 yards - 14
>>10 - 19 yards - 16
>> 1 -  9 yards - 25
>
>But what we'll never know (unless someone has lots of videotape and even
>more time) is how long the actual passes were, rather than the pass and
>-- 

Michael,

This is all I have to work with, so I'll give it a stab. The chart is meant to
give the reader an idea of who threw to Rice, at what point on the field Rice
caught the ball, and how many times Rice caught the ball for his 101 career
touchdown catch. It wasn't meant to justify or clarify the total number of    
yards per catch or any other statistic.

I'll check with some other sources, and I will post the results of what I find
at a later date.

Go 49ers


__
             Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch
             Van Gogh paint Sunflowers, but they would fill
             Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear......

                     Pat Putnam - Sports Illustrated
__
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Super Bowl Trivia Time!
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:52:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

O.K., folks, with the playoffs just around the corner and fan excitment
growing to fever pitch, here's a short SB trivia quiz to temporarily
divert you from all the woofing/whining/waffling that we've all been
subjected to over the past few days (weeks):

1.)  Name the only two head coaches who've won Super Bowls as a player,
assistant coach and head coach.  Hint:  one in the NFC; one in the AFC.

2.)  The Rose Bowl is the site for SB XXVII.  To date, how many SB have
been played at the Rose Bowl?  Which SB's?

3.)  Who is the all-time leading post season receiver in NFL history?  
Hint: it's not Jerry Rice.;-)

4.)  What former SB MVP entered the '92 season as the leading active
rusher in the NFL?

5.)  Since the AFL-NFL merger in '70, who is the only wild card team to
win a Super Bowl?  Who did they beat?

6.)  Who is the only player in the NFL history to be a member of 3
different SB winning franchaises?  Which teams were these?

************************ Cheap Attempt at Satire
*************************
If you answer all the questions correctly, you'll receive a free
autographed copy of JP Gloria's new book, "F**K 'EM ALL", sequel to his
best seller, "Top Ten Reason's Why the 49ers Are The Best of All-time".
 :-) (smiley face, JP!)
************************************************************************
**

Please e-mail your responses to me unless you feel the overwhelming
urge to post your vast trivia skills for all to see. ;-)  I'll let you
know how you did and post answers and results some time next week! 
Have fun!

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Land of the Giants
From: v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Some interesting facts about this years playoff teams
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:44:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Well, if you're interested to know, I found this little
column of information in the paper on December 18 th.

Contenders vs losers            Contenders vs winners

New Orleans   9-0               San Francisco 5-1
Philadelphia  5-0               Buffalo       3-1
San Diego     5-0               Green Bay     3-1
Houston       4-0               Pittsburgh    4-2
Dallas        7-1               Dallas        3-2
Minnesota     7-1               Kansas City   4-3
San Francisco 7-1               Washington    3-3
Kansas City   5-1               Houston       3-4
Miami         5-1               Miami         2-3
Pittsburgh    5-1               New Orleans   2-3
Washington    5-2               Philadelphia  3-5
Buffalo       6-3               Minnesota     1-4
Green Bay     5-4               San Diego     0-4

Bruce, a Bills fan
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From: floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich)
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:06:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.193010.21539@acuson.com> brianc@acuson.com (Brian Cox) writes:

>Like the final game of the '79 season...  'Skins up by 13 (a dangerous
>number when _oger _taubach was in the game!) and driving for the icing in
>the 4th quarter.  Riggins fumbles on the 30.  RS brings 'em back.  But wait
>Joe Theismann gets the 'Skins into Mosley's range with 3 seconds left!
>He calls timeout! 2... 1... THE REF DOESN'T SEE HIM (even though he's
>standing right in front of him.)  If the Redskins win, they win the
>division, if they lose, they don't even get a wildcard!  Time expires
>and Mosley never gets to try.
>
>Wow!  Talk about having to get something off one's chest...
>Hey does anybody know what really happend in that game?  I'm sure that
>the 'Skins had a timeout left.  Is anybody old enough to remember it?
>(I think that it was George Allen's last season with the 'Skins...)

I remember it fairly well.  A truly memorable Staubach moment leading Dallas
back from 13 down late in the game.  It was funny that he did it so quickly
that Washington still had a chance at the win.  Dallas had kicked off (down
by 6) and held the Skins to 3 and out.  Seems like Ed Jones made a big play
on a 3rd down sweep to force the punt.  Staubach led Dallas back and threw
a fade pattern for a score.  If Washington had won that day, they would have
made the playoffs.  Since they lost, they were tied with Chicago for the last
Wild Card spot.  Chicago had won that day by like 34 points, so they won the
tiebreaker based on points scored or some equally obscure measure.

About the last play, Theisman completed a fairly long pass to give the Skins
a chance at a FG.  He immediately turned to the Referree who was looking down
field to see what had happened.  Theisman called a timeout immediately, but
the Referree did not see him.  The clock expired before the ref could signal
the timeout.

Theisman bitched about that for several days afterward.  He said that Dallas
controlled the clock and the refs.  I don't see Ed Lor talking about what a
whiner Theisman was, though.

Floyd Goodrich
floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com
>
>
>>Wes
>-- 
>
>					   --Brian Cox--
>------------------
>
From: tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES IN SUPER BOWL
Date: 11 Dec 1992 12:21:50 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec10.212142.1@wharton.upenn.edu> reille85@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.211422.1@wharton.upenn.edu>, reille85@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>> EAGLES TO WIN SUPER BOWL
>> 	-Despite Rich Kotite
>> 	-Despite no Jerome Brown
>> 	-Despite no Keith Jackson
>> 	-Despite no Ben Smith

	-Despite no Andre Waters
	-Despite Rich Miano
	-Despite no Leon Seals
	-Despite no Wes Hopkins
	-Despite the toughest NFL schedule

-Teh Kao

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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: The Dynasty Continues..........
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:14:09 GMT

In article <1gt6fqINNpo4@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> djd@agent99.Eng.Sun.COM (Dave Damkoehler - Sun BOS Editor) writes:
>What honks me off the most about Mr. Lor's characterizations is his
>description of the "bush-league 60s." May I remind him that the
>opponents faced by Lombardi's group included teams coached by the
>likes of Paul Brown, Don Shula, Bud Grant, and George Halas. 
This has been discussed already in r.s.p.basketball.pro. For every
legend you name in the 60s, there are always matching legends in
the 80s.

Gibbs, Shula, Reeves, Ditka, Parcells, Flores, Landry ....

>Bart
>Starr was confronted by folks such as Alex Karas, Big Daddy Lipscomb,
>Rosey Grier, Deacon Jones, Merlin Olsen, and Lamar Lundy. 
Yes, like Reggie White, Charles Mann, Keith Millard, Randy White,
Ed Jones, Chris Doleman, Dan Hampton, Jack Youngblood, Richard
Dent, Bruce Smith, Lee Roy Selmon ....

> Hornung
>and Taylor had to find their way around Dick Butkus, Mike Curtis,
>and Sam Huff. 
Yes, it's as if Montana and company don't have to find their
way around LT, Singletary, Wilber Marshall, Pat Swilling, Rickey
Jackson, Cornellius Bennett, Karl Mechlemberg, Harry Carson, ....

>Herb Adderly and Willie Wood had to stop legends such
>as Paul Warfield, Charlie Taylor, and Mike Ditka from catching passes
>thrown by Brodie, Gabriel, Ryan, Meredith, Tittle, Jurgenson, and
>Tarkenton. 
Yes, and it's as if the 49ers don't have to stop legends like
Art Monk, Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, Steve Largent, Mark Bavaro,
the Marks Brothers, Henry Ellard, Sterling Sharpe, Anthony Carter 
from catching passes thrown by, when, name the great QBs of this
generations.

And who's Ryan? Frank Ryan? Frank Ryan a legendary QB? Gimme a break!

>And Nitschke had to run down backs such as Jim Brown.
And somebody had to run down backs like Dickerson, Payton, 
Tony Dorsett, John Riggins .....

So what's your point? Just by naming a few legends of the 60s
means the 60s was a better league than the 80s?

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:18:41 EST
From: <NXM115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject:    another joke

These were some jokes about John Elway that came out after his superowl loss
to the 49ers:

Q:  Did you hear the Elway tried to shoot himself after the super bowl?
A:  Yeah, but luckily they intercepted the bullet.

Q:  How do you keep Elway out of his own house?
A:  Paint an end zone across his porch.
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From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Super Bowl Repeater? Hmmm, don't think so....
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:23:03 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:26:39 GMT

In article <1413@netxcom.netx.com> Jeff Comer, jwc@netxcom.netx.com
writes:
>In any case, the Washington O looks anemic. Given that they played close
to 
>the #1 or #2 defense in the league, I think they did well, but the Pokes
are
>certainly on a roll. For the Skins to repeat, they will almost certainly
see
>Dallas again.

I agree. However, I place the onus squarely on the shoulders of Mark
Rypien.
He was getting plenty of protection and has the most talented recieving
three-some in the league. There were several times in the game where he
failed to connect with wide-open receivers for scores. Had he connected on
even two of these, the Redskins could have beaten Dallas easily. The
running
game, although not spectacular, was consistent---especially in the
second half when Byner really started to roll.

Mark can no longer blame his performance on the injured offensive line
or the lack of pre-season preparation. He
asked for, and recieved, a franchise quarterback's contract. It is about
time
he started to earn it.

A Redskin Fan in Texas Hell

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
                               Hunter Thompson
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Lee....Touchdown 49errrrrrrs!
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:15:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <5058@equinox.unr.edu> harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris) writes:

>49ers     20
>Vikings   17
>
>BTW, (oops, caps lock) at the end of this game and on his way off the field,
>Siefert was looking over at a crowd of players and media. It appeared that he
>was very concerned about what was going on over there. What was going on, and
>did the Vikings' coach ever get around to shaking Sieferts' hand?

Don't know the answer to the first question, but yes, George and Denny
Green met on the field for the handshake and congratulation. The Niner
organization breeds them classy.

In contrast was Jimmy Johnson sprinting off the field as though he had
been shot from a cannon.  I admit it was a tough loss, but he could
have shown more grace in the face of adversity.
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
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From: bmr@gonzo.b15.ingr.com (Bruce Reagan)
Subject: Re: This week's SI(Inside the NFL)
Keywords: touchdown catch
Reply-To: reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com
Organization: unknown
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:32:50 GMT

In article <BzFr6H.G3F@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
|> Entering Sunday's game against the Cardinals, the Colts will
|> have gone 77 days without a TD catch.
                               ^^^^^^^^^

	Last week the Colts beat the Jets on a td pass from Trudeau to Arbuckle.
Doesn't this qualify as a TD catch?
	
|> S.H
|> 

-- 
Bruce Reagan
reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com
bmr@gonzo.b15.ingr.com
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:50:11 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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