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From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Subject: Re: Difference between Turbo C++ and Borland C++
Keywords: C++, IBM PC, Borland
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:41:16 GMT

In article <watson.727725334@mariner.sce.carleton.ca> watson@sce.carleton.ca (Stephen Watson) writes:
>[note: followups set to c.s.i.p.m only]
>
>kkuehl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Kevin Kuehl) writes:
>
>Me too, please!  I've got TC++ Professional (v1), and I'm thinking of
>upgrading.  I definitely want templates, and fixes for all the stuff
>wrong with TC++v1.  Am I correct in my impression that *Turbo* C++ now
>has a v3, distinct from *Borland* C++ v3?

Absolutly and totally different.  Plus there's Turbo for DOS and Turbo for
Windows.  They are separate packages.

>  TurboVision looks
>interesting too, as I'm doing some frameworks stuff at school (but I
>believe I need min 2MB RAM in my machine?). And speaking of platform
>upgrades, how much disk do these things take up?

I've heard the full Borland with App. Frameworks takes up from 30-50Meg. 
I don't know since I have Turbo C/C++ for DOS.  It takes up about 15 for
the full installation I think.

>  I'm contemplating
>spending up to $1000 (from savings: I'm a starving student ;-) on new
>h/w and s/w; I want to make sure I'll be happy with the result!  I
>notice that the "extra memory" add-on to the FAQ in
>comp.os.msdos.programmer says that BC++ works transparently (i.e.
>"new/delete" still do their stuff) with the Pharlap 16-bit extender;
>does the same apply to TC++?

Have no clue.

>(I have a bone to pick with Borland about this: I keep getting
>mailings about Quattro-Pro (for what?  So I can balance my
>cheque-book?), Paradox, and Borland C++ (I don't do Windows!), but
>nary a word about improvements/fixes to Turbo ;-(

Couldn't agree more.  I've gotten enough just mail for Quattro-Pro and
Paradox to fill a room.  But no news on Turbo C/C++.

>Note: like Kevin, I'm not doing commercial programming, and I'm NOT
>doing Windows.

The only differences that I know of are that you don't get a Windows
compiler (unless you get Turbo for Windows.  Then you don't get a DOS
compiler.)  You don't get Turbo Vision.  You don't get the full-featured
debugger (though the one incorperated into the IDE is more than enough for
me.)  And you don't get the assembler TASM.
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From: ptrw_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (The Punisher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: NEW VIRUS????
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:56:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I have an IBM PS/2 55sx and these last two weeks it has been
acting very strangely.  Today was the second time that my computer booted
up and displayed the message "Bad or missing Command Interpreter".
After booting from a DOS disk, I findthat all of the files in my
home directory are gone....no config.sys, no autoexec.bat.....zippo!
Is the command.com screwy?  This gets really ANNOYING!

I have NORTON 6.0 and Norton Anti-Virus....I had been playnig around
with the Anti-0virus setting just prior to this occurance...even
in comprehensive scan mode, it dosn't detect a thing!


	You suggestions/experiences/advice is always appreciated!

				Thanks
				PEte

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From: marklc@umbc.edu (Mr. Mark L. Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: STACKER question
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:25:20 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu

You are slightly mistaken.  Himem.sys is only a memory manager.  It has nothing
to do with the disk cache.  In order to disable your disk cache, all you
need to do is to REM out the line that has to do with Smartdrive.  Then you
will be all set.  

  Happy computing...
    Mark
    marklc@umbc4.umbc.edu
From: ssudavss@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Captain_Kwok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Clip art
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:57:34 GMT
Organization: University of Reading


Anyone know of a good source of clip art in either CGM, WMF, EPS formats
that is freely available and available on the net?

Cheers,
Steve
ssudavss@uk.ac.reading
From: dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us (Bowie Poag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: What good are Bios RAM tests ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:31:32 CST
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

In article <1jagkpINNarn@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us>, mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us
(Marc Unangst) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.111338.11134@dmu.ac.uk> cph@dmu.ac.uk (Chris Hand)
writes:
>
>>When I bought the latter, I asked the sales guy if they would work on my 
>>motherboard and he said "if it will take 4 Meg SIMMs, it will work with
>>3-chip SIMMs".  When I spoke to the people I bought the motherboard from
>>they said "that motherboard doesn't work with 4 Meg SIMMs".
>>
>>Does anyone *really* KNOW???!!  I have had CheckIt recommended to me
>
>Do you have difficulty putting two pieces of information together?
>
>Salesman #1 (the one you bought your SIMMs from) says, "If your
>motherboard works with 4MB SIMMs, then it will work with 3-chip 1MB
>SIMMs."
>
>Salesman #2 (the one you bought your motherboard from) says, "Your
>motherboard won't work with 4MB SIMMs."
>
>From those two statements it seems fairly clear to me that your
>motherboard won't work with 3-chip SIMMs.  From the problems you've
>been having, I'd say that my theory is correct.  Why don't you take
>your 3-chip SIMMs back, exchange them for 9-chip SIMMs, and see if
>that fixes the problems?
>
>-- 
>Marc Unangst, N8VRH         | "Of course, in order to understand this you
>mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   |  have to remember that the nucleus of the atom
>                            |  is squishy."
>                            |    -W. Scheider, from a Physics lecture



(giggle)... sorry, I cant help this..

Maybe you should just get an Amiga, where you just go out and buy a RAM card,
drop it in your machine, turn it on, and the system configures it for you. :)



        +-----------------------------------------------------------+
        |o|              I think, therefore I Amiga.              |=|
        +-----------------------------------------------------------+
        | Douglas Michael Kasten (DMK) | Amiga 2000HD/5 with a tiny |
        |  dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us   | little 21" Toshiba monitor.|
        +------------------------------+----------------------------+
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From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: HP DeskJet 500C vs. 550C
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:52:41 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00o.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

The 550 carries both black and color cartridge at
the same time.
This improves printing quality of colored
pictures a lot, expecially within dark or black
regions, because the 3 colors YCM together should 
be black but they are not. (like dark grey-brown, but not
real dark black !) 
From printing technology, they call this phenomenon
in Germany "Unbunt-Ausgleich", I don't know the english 
word for it, but it means, that you take away about 
35% of the color intensity (equally for all 3 colors)
and replace this with black color, so you get the result
which is in many magazines and newspapers known as 
4-color-print !

In addition, you don't have to worry about where to
put the other cartridge !

Hope that helps 
Torsten
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: Re: What good are Bios RAM tests ?
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:19:37 GMT

dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us (Bowie Poag) writes:

>(giggle)... sorry, I cant help this..

>Maybe you should just get an Amiga, where you just go out and buy a RAM card,
>drop it in your machine, turn it on, and the system configures it for you. :)


Yes, and how much did you pay again?


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   in our holy brains...  (Yello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
Subject: Re: MIPS rating of 486DX2-66 in BYTE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:16:27 GMT

gilligan@cs1.bradley.edu (Edward Henigin) writes:

>In <C1F9K4.8LB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson) writes:

>>In the newest issue of BYTE magazine they compare a DX2-66 to the
>>new $4000 SPARC classic.  They rathe the DX2-66 at 53 MIPS and
>>the classic at 58 MIPS.  The DX2-66's MIPS _HAS_ to be _TOTALLY_
>>wrong.  [...]
>>If I had my choice and the money
>>ID take the classic!  [...]

>Yeah, but you can't play Wing Commander on the Sparc.


You have a point, great hardware doesn't sell itself..  Standards sell.
Imagine everyone the prospect of Games ported to workstations, and some
that need to run of workstations, networked.  We need to open our minds
to more than $$ figures, because there is some great technology out there
that we are all missing.
From: khoult@cc-hw.bbn.com (Kent Hoult)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: GVC FM9696H FAX Modem
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:42:33
Organization: BBN Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc-hw.bbn.com

I have a GVC FAX modem that has never been able to actually
send/receive a fax. I contacted the software company that make
the software (WINFAX) and found out from them that the microcode
on the modem must be at least rev 3.0 (it's 2.9 now).

The problem is that I can't find out how to contact GVC to buy
the new EPROM. The place I bought the modem doesn't deal with
them anymore, and the 800 number they used to have is gone.

Does anyone out there know the phone number and/or address of
GVC corp (I believe it is also called Cheval Corp)????

	Thanks, Kent
From: phillyg@acs.bu.edu (Khoa Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Info on Seagate ST-412 Hard-drive
Keywords: Seagate, harddrive
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:10:37 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: phillyg@acs.bu.edu

I recently picked up this drive at an auction, but it didn't come
with any documentation.  If anyone knows what kind of drive this is
and the settings for it, I would be grateful.

Thanks,
Khoa Nguyen
From: helmut@helmut.munich.sgi.com (Helmut Schiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: To all German readers
Keywords: Abschreibungssoftware
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:08:25 GMT
Reply-To: helmut@munich.sgi.com
Organization: Training Silicon Graphics GmbH Germany Munich

Ich suche eine Software die Abschreibungspflichtiges Inventar verwaltet.
Z.B. Abschreibung eines Computers ueber 3 Jahre (ich bin kein Buchhalter,
diese Zahl ist rein fiktiv). Ich denke dass so ein Programm zwar nicht
extrem schwierig zu erstellen ist, aber vielleicht exestiert so eine SW
bereits.

Danke fuer alle Tips!

Ciao Helmut

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From: v075pcah@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Dinesh K. Sukumaran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: help/advice on setting up DOS/Windows network
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Hi,

We are in the process of upgrading and setting up
a computer lab for students. We already have 2 386s, 4 286s and
a 386DX. We want to spend the least amount of money, and use 
our current computer equipment also. Our lab should be able to
support computer intensive software like mathematica, hyperchem
etc.. So we thought of two alternatives:

1. get a 486/50 and keep these computer intensive software on
them. The down side is, only one person can work at a time.

Or

2. set up a Server-Client network: setup a 486/50 with a large
disk and printer as server, and use our current 386/286 
machines as clients. The idea is that all computations will be
done on the server, and the clients will merely serve as
front-ends. Also, the clients can be used independently for small
tasks. Is possible in the DOS/Windows  environment? I have been
told that unix machines can do this... But, is it possible
for DOS/WINDOWS set up too? 

If option 2 is possible, we would prefer that. Our assumption is
386/286 machines can be used as dumb terminals, hanging off the
486. The 486 will be responsible for computations, disk access,
video updates, printing etc...

I  would appreciate any advice/comment/suggestions on this. Also,
if option 2 above is possible, what do we need? Who will be the 
suggested vendors? Will one  copy on the server be able to serve
requests from multiple clients?

Once again please let me know of suggestions for this setup.

Thanks,

--Dinesh

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   Dept. of Chemistry     Fax:   (716)-829-2960
   9 Acheson Hall         email: chedinsh@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu
   SUNY at Buffalo               dinesh@hohaha.chem.buffalo.edu
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From: Aaron Morse (fsapm@acad3.alaska.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Anybody reverse engineered the interface for the MicroSoft Bus Mouse?
Keywords: bus mouse microsoft interface
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:18:48 GMT
Reply-To: fsapm@acad3.alaska.edu

Hi,
The subject says it all!

I'd appreciate any information you could send me on this interface!

Thanks in advance,

Aaron
amorse@next.com
From: pthirose@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Looking for comm program to allow quasi-windows
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:36:06 GMT

I've recently been told that there is an application for the Macintosh
computer called "layers" (or "maclayers") that will allow you to have
multi-window capability when connected to a host Unix system with socket
support.  This is accomplished with just one connection.

I was wondering if there was the equivalent of this for an ibm type
computer, and if so, where I might get it.  I would assume that some
kind of program would run on the Unix side, and I would appreciate a
pointer to that as well.  I'd hope it's public domain/freeware, since
I'd like to just install this on our local Sun-sparc lan for use by
all our users.

Reply preferred via email, but post is fine too.  I scan both often.

-- 
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Computer Science Student     I speak for me, not the university (disclaimer)
From: gilligan@cs1.bradley.edu (Edward Henigin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: MIPS rating of 486DX2-66 in BYTE
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:31:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bradley University

In <C1F9K4.8LB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson) writes:

>In the newest issue of BYTE magazine they compare a DX2-66 to the
>new $4000 SPARC classic.  They rathe the DX2-66 at 53 MIPS and
>the classic at 58 MIPS.  The DX2-66's MIPS _HAS_ to be _TOTALLY_
>wrong.  [...]
>If I had my choice and the money
>ID take the classic!  [...]

Yeah, but you can't play Wing Commander on the Sparc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.net
From: stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold)
Subject: PD-Programs for building a PC-Network ?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:27:43 GMT
Organization: Delos Stuttgart, Germany


Hi !


I'm looking for a *Public Domain/Freeware/Shareware* program that
I can use to build a network with 10 PC's here. Are there some
programs existing ? Which one would you recommand ? Where to get
those programs (ftp would be ok) ?
It must be driven over serial cables, no ethernet or other network
cards ! (as we don't have the money :-((

I've heard of NCSA-Telnet: But can I use it in my case as I don't
have a Unix host with proper tcp-ip installation but only 
10 MS-DOS PCs :-(

The ideal program would be a program where I can not only transfer
files from one PC to one other of those ten, but also to run a
(text) program (graphics would be good, but isn't necessary) on one
PC and to see the program actually at another PC (so not only ftp,
but also telnet, if you think of Unix-like-networking).

If you have any hints which software would be good for me, please
mail it to me (as my newsserver hangs down at these days :-((((

Thank you very much,
Stefan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: Gateway service problem
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:43:11 GMT

Their service through phone really sucks, but their service through
American OnLine is really great. On three occations I got response
the next day (or max two days).

I had problems getting my telepath modem from them. Several phone calls didn't
do it. All it took was one E-mail ...

-- budi
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: alewis@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Subject: Joystick query
Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:47:20 GMT

Could anyone direct me toward sources of information on programming
joysticks?  This is a topic that none of my programming books seem to care
about.  Actually, the ideal thing would be an already-prepared package
similar to whiskers for mice.  But just information on how to get the
information that the stick is supposed to be sending (even very technical,
like what signals each of the fifteen pins are sending) would be welcome. 
My problem is that I bought a fancy new joystick, which won't work with
the programs that my old cheapie worked with.  Please don't refer me to
BASIC; I don't use that language.  Reply by e-mail; I doubt this topic is
of interest to enough other people to use up bandwidth.

Andrew Lewis
alewis@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
 lewis@unc.oit.unc.edu
BITNET: lewis@unc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Re: STACKER question
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:49:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.192654.7710@zooid.guild.org> Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>From jswilson@mta.ca (SCOTT_WILSON)
>>How can I turn off my cache on my computer... Stacker
>>when you go into compress the drive says to turn off the disk cache
>>when compressing the drive
>>I use Himem.sys and smartdrv.sys
>
>    Put "rem" in front of the line that loads smartdrv.sys, reboot, and
>install Stacker.  Then take the "rem" out afterwards.

Why go to all that bother.  The command "smartdrv c-" will disable caching
for the C drive.  I'm not running Stacker, but I haven't yet encountered a
cache-sensitive program that isn't happy with this methof of turning off
SMARTDRV.

Bob Nichols
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng)
Subject: Fax Questions
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:41:05 GMT

We have an application that has the following characteristics

-  Will have 2 PCs at remote locations connected via phone line.
-  Will need to download images as well as data.

There is a suggestion that we use fax/modems. The reason being that
we can make use of any compression that the fax hardware does and also
that the central (server) site will be able to receive images from other
sites with only paper fax machines. The questions that arise are :

-  Do fax cards incorporate data compression? What kind? How effective?
-  Is there available fax software (esp Windows based) that will allow
   a program to operate the fax card via API or a software library? I
   may also have to be able to obtain the image data for some image 
   processing.
-  Given the second point above, preferbly should incorporate scanner
   support also in the API.
-  I assume that I can easily use the fax card alternately as a fax
   machine as well as a data modem. Can I confirm this?
-  If I use the fax card as a data modem, can I also make use of
   hardware compression facility? How? 
-  Can I manipulate the resolution of the fax? ie can I have 150dpi,
   300dpi, 100dpi etc fax?

I certainly hope someone can answer these questions as well as provide
recommendations for products. Any advice is appreciated - as you may
guess, I know nothing about fax technology and certainly nothing about
PC Fax applications.

Thank you very much.

jin meng
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Re: Gateway service problem
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:45:28 GMT

ttrusk@its.mcw.edu (Thomas Trusk) writes:

>In article <jcmorris.727537460@mwunix> jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes:
>>akm@atlantix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes:
>>
>>>I thought that folks reading this thread should know that Infowrold
>>>has a front page article that talks about Gateway's poor support. This
>>>is in the current (1/18/93) issue.
>>
>>  [details deleted]
>>
>>The _Wall_Street_Journal_ ran an article earlier this week (Monday or
>>Tuesday; I'm not sure which) saying pretty much the same thing.  The
>>call volume figures quoted are amazing.
>>

>My most recent issue of PC Magazine reports a reader's survey 
>that ranks Gateway ABOVE average in all categories. This tells me 2 things.

>Either:

>1. the readers of PC mag have more technical common sense obviating the
>   need to call the bonehead 'support' people, or

>2. PC Mag way, way, way, way, behind the times. Pretty sad for a journal published
>   twice a month.

Thens there's #3, Gateway is a BIG advertiser in thier magazine!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc