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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Purdue to be in 10th place in the Big Ten??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:52:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.120908.24328@oakhill.sps.mot.com> duane@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Duane Cripe) writes:
>After hearing that Purdue lost to Northwestern last weekend (which induced
>major depression and hopelessness), coupled with Wisconsin beating OSU, and 
>Minnesota beating Illinois I have a big fear this may be the first year 
>(that I know of) Purdue could actually end up 10th in the Big Ten.  This is 
>one claim I hope doesn't come to fruition.....

	It's one hell of a real possibility, Duane.  If Purdue doesn't
	beat Minnesota at Ross-Ade this Saturday, there's real potential
	for a 1-10 season.  Wouldn't that be something, especially if
	Cal goes on and wins the Pac-10 (Washington looks vulnerable
	to me, sorry)???  The rest of the schedule after Minnesota includes
	games at Wisconsin, Iowa, and Illinois (sure losses), a home game
	with Michigan (very sure loss), a road game at Michigan State (a
	likely loss, but with Perles around, you never know), and a home
	game with Indiana, which might be a tossup for last place...  Hell,
	I was thinking 4-1 heading to Madison after the Cal upset win.
	Everyone figured Purdue would lose to Notre Dame, but the other
	three games after Cal were at home against Toledo, Northwestern,
	and Minnesota!  Argh!!!

	The Northwestern radio announcers on WBBM were really getting
	geared up for a Hoosier invasion this coming Saturday, which
	incidentally is NU's first home game of the year in Evanston...

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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:53:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Sep30.205314.8645
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <randall.717877452@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>This is the problem that I have with so-called "humorous"
>marching bands.  It is very easy to do a "timely",
>"witty" show in front of 50,000 people and cause offense
>to a lot of people, especially when you try to deal with
>politics.  Frankly, I go to a college football game to
>get away from day-to-day conflicts like politics. 

You know, Randall, after reading your post, it occurred to me that
the Stanfurd and U$C bands have at least three things in common:

1. Both are at schools where money talks

2. Both know that what they do irritates other people

3. Neither care

There you have it:  Stanfurd's and U$C's bands are as alike as two
peas in a pod.
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: njan
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:16:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.224932.8201@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>
>Are you a psychology or pre-med (with an interest in psychiatry) major?

Now what I study is my business... anyways, when things are so obvious as this
one, you don't have to be an expert...

>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Njan
From: greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Ex-Purdue QB Brian Fox
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:07:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Does anybody in netland remember this guy?  He was really good as a freshman,
but then transferred to somewhere in Florida.  Anyone know where, and if he
ever played / plays?


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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: FSU/Miami bad officiating
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:36:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.220224.3269@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> scott@gfdi.fsu.edu () writes:
[bad, bad, bad FSU play deleted :)]
>It's anyone's guess why Miami fans weren't doing the Safety Dance made
>popular by Men
>Without Hats back in the 80s.  Why doesn't that catch on?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Scott Applequist				Of course these aren't my employer's 
>scott@gfdi.fsu.edu				opinions.  I don't get paid enough for that.

We sure did plenty of it at Michigan Stadium when we hosted Houston.  
Jimmy Klinger was manhandled by a Michigan defensive lineman at 
about 1 foot out of the end zone.  The QB was tackled into the 
end zone and the Michigan student section erupted into a chorus 
of hands being clapped overhead.  Of course, the official called 
that forward progress had been stopped (by a QB with his arm cocked?) 
and disallowed the safety.  Regardless, I'm sure the Cougars were 
pretty rattled by our continued clapping and screaming on the 
next couple of plays when they had to snap the ball into the 
end zone (btw, they were in the student's end of the stadium). 
---
Steve
From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Deja Vu all over again (OSU, Wisconson, putrid play calling)
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:54:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct5.172346.261@alc.com> stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) writes:
>
>One wonders why Cooper didn't try to talk the Wisconsin coaches into
>running the "prevent defense" for the entire game.  :-/
>
>I've heard a lot of people say that neither team played too well, but
>I'd disagree.  Other than a high snap on a punt and *five* stupid
>personal fouls, Wisconsin played a fine game.  In particular, their
>QB was extremely sharp, and their defensive line played an outstanding
>game.

I, for one, said that.  Concerning Wisconsin, the main reason I said
it was because of what you pointed out.  I agree that if you take
those things away, Wisconsin played a good game (no TOs!).  However,
those were some big things to take away and they came pretty dang
close to losing the game for them.

>Ohio State didn't play too badly either.  Herbstreit was a little off,
>but not terribly so.  The play calling was not as bad as some have
>claimed.  The botched pitch inside the Badger 10-yard-line was probably
>Ohio State's only really unforgivable error in the game.  And against
>a fired-up, solid Badger team, it might have made the difference.

I really don't think Ohio State played well at all.  Particularly,
the offensive line and the defense in general.  I have no problems
with the play calling at all.

Offensively, there were no holes for the backs to run through.
You aren't going to beat many people rushing for 40-something yards -
especially when that's supposedly the strength of your team.
I don't know how many sacks Wisconsin got, but it seemed like they
were getting penetration from the outside all day.
Ohio State had their chance - 1st down at the Wisconsin
42 with 3:23 to go and down 4 points.  They didn't get it done.

Defensively, they allowed four long drives of over 50
yards.  That 8-minute drive in the 4th quarter, ending in a Wisconsin
FG was a killer, because it took so much time off the clock and
gave Wisconsin a 10 point lead.  If you can't stop that sort of thing,
you're typically not going to win.

david
From: maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Jayhawk Posting #13
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:22:07 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

From the Friday, September 25, 1992 issue of the University Daily Kansan.

KANSAS PLAYERS LOOK PAST DEFEAT TO COMING GAMES
by David Bartkoski, Kansan sportswriter

   Although Kansas players had different reactions to the team's 27-23 loss
to California, they remained upbeat about the team's future. Senior defen-
sive tackle Dana Stubblefield said California's offensive line surprised
him. "They didn't come off the line like they did against Purdue," he said.
   The Kansas defense did not have any sacks, and no defensive lineman made
more than six tackles. Stubblefield, who made five tackles and played every
play on defense, said the defense was stunned by California's ability to
move the ball. "Some guys had a good game, and some guys played their worst
game," he said. "It was my worst game since 1989."
   Senior wide receiver Matt Gay, who caught three passes for 47 yards and
threw a 33-yard touchdown pass, said he thought the offense needed to exe-
cute better. He also said he did not think playing on national television
had a negative effect on the Jayhawks. "We were maybe a little nervous at
the beginning," he said.
   Senior strong safety Charley Bowen gave credit to California. "Cali-
fornia came ready to play," he said. "They didn't get down when the big
play happened." After Kansas scored on Gay's touchdown pass, California had
with a long drive that took all but 23 seconds off the clock. [sic]
   Bowen, who had 9 tackles and an interception, said he was impressed with
California senior tailback Russell White. "He's an excellent back," he
said. "He'll make you miss."
   White said Kansas had a tough defense. "They're speedy, and they come in
hard," he said. "It was a big challenge to come in and establish the run
against their defense."
   Gay said, "I'm not thinking about the loss at all. We've got a week off
now. Stubblefield said the loss was not a reality check for the team. "We
expected to go undefeated in the Big Eight," he said.

Posted to r.s.f.c. by "Kansas Mary"
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Organization: University of Michigan
	<92280.103656TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:07:38 GMT

In article <92280.103656TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:

   After this Saturday when Cal upsets Washington and Penn State does the same
   to Miami, Penn State should then be ranked #1!!

You haven't been watching polls for long, have you?  This is not possible,
without a few other (much less likely) upsets, e.g. MSU over UM.

Bill
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Major Top 25 Poll Injustice 
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:34:56 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep29.173852.17180@u.washington.edu> tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu writes:

> In spite of their 3 game winning streak...
> In spite of their nationally ranked (#11) scoring defense...
> In spite of their darkhorse Heisman candidate QB "Dandy" Dan Freiburger...
> 
> Southern Methodist University is getting no respect from the pollsters.
> I'm not crying for an actual ranking in the 20-25 range (those are reserved
> for Eastern teams which pile up good records against poor competition), but
> SMU should at least be one of the OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES.

  It's part of the "sneak up and whack'em when they're not paying attention"
media bias.  Yes, I agree, SMU should be ranked<smirk> .  Why I think they
should be as high as #20<twitch>. I...<giggle>, no really, I do <cackle>!  In
fact,<hee hee> they out to be in the running for the <cough/choke/smirk/chuckle>
SWC champion--BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  Sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face.  And for the humor-impaired :-),
since I'm pulling for SMU, those kids have been through a lot.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington)
Subject: Baylor at Texas Tech score?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:03:21 GMT


Subject says it all, what was the score of this
very late night game please.

email or post 
Thanks
Bob E.
From: shobbs@athena.mit.edu (Susan K Hobbs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: minnesota football schedule
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:29:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep30.182945.9576
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

hey does anyone out there have a Minnesota Gopher football schedule they could
send?

Thanks much

100% Gopher
From: valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: USC Football Player Shot
Date: 28 Sep 1992 18:21:16 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spica.usc.edu



A USC football player was shot while crossing SC's practice field this
afternoon. The identity of the player is only known as a freshman linebacker
John McGee (not a starter) and was struck in the left elbow which was due to
a stray bullet from an altercation off campus. The player has been listed in
good condition....

Valdis Kalejs
From: stu@voodoo.boeing.com (Stuart Liddle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Rose Bowl (was Re: Wash vs. Neb afterthought)
Keywords: Huskies Huskers MNC
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: stu@voodoo.boeing.com
Organization: BoGart System

In article <xbw-Rr@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@silvercornish.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
|> 
|> 	Anyway, here is the scenerio for the year.  Huskies, should they
|> play with the intensity shown last night, should cruise through the rest of 
|> the season undefeated.  This sets up the possible national champainship 
|> game at the Rose Bowl vs. Michigan, who shouldn't have any problem with 
|> anyone else. ---- provided that somebody beats or ties Miami.  
|> 

Well, one possibility I see is that both UW & UCLA go undefeated and UCLA goes
to the Rose Bowl because the UW went last time.  So, the Huskies go to some 
other bowl to play Miami, FSU, or (insert some other MNC contender here).
Now, consider UCLA playing against an unbeaten Michigan (but they do have that
tie game with ND).  The Huskies would get a shot at playing against an unbeaten
team like (possibly) Miami (well, they've got a tough schedule, they could end
the season with at least one loss) -OR- FSU....Well, you get the picture.
The Huskies can definitely come out with a NC title all to themselves and not
have to share it like they did last year.  The only problem with this scenario
is that UCLA might get to play in the Rose Bowl and keep the Huskies from the
possibility of the only ROSE BOWL THREE-PEAT IN HISTORY!!!  Bummer, dudes!
-- 
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Subject: Re: Penn State TV Appreance Schedule?
From: <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>Fred Rozenblad
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:38:07 EDT
Organization: Penn State University


U49110@uicvm.uic.edu asks can someone post the PSU football TV schedule.
Well, I'll try. The games which I know will be televised are

1. Miami vs Penn State            Oct 10th
2. Notre Dame vs Penn State       Nov14th
3. Boston College vs. Penn State  Oct 17th
4. West Virginia vs Penn State    Oct 24th
5. UPitt vs Penn State            Nov 21st
6. Penn State vs BYU              Oct 31st

The games against Miami, Notre Dame and Pitt will probably be broadcasted na-
tionally. BYU, WVU and BC are to be picked in the state by regional broadcasts.

Fred Rozenblad
FKR@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rick Lin(call me Axl) )
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:17:33 GMT

rszczerb@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:

>It seems to me that if the FSU kicker had converted on a relatively
>easy 37 yard field goal, then the mighty Canes would have tied too.


There is a slight difference between "being" tied, which would have been the
case if FSU  made that field goal, and playing for a tie.  So why did 
Lou Holtz call those running plays and why didn't he call a time out?  If
that's not playing for a tie, I don't know what is. 
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From: Hinding.1@nd.edu (John E. Hinding)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:18:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.215433.20172@colorado.edu>,
manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep30.205051.4882@news.stolaf.edu> alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
> >
> >Hey, CU fans--see you in the Toilet Bowl!!
> 
> This year, CU is going Orange... Iowa game was just the begining...
> Cale Gundy is going to remember oct 17th for a looong time... with pain!
> Chad Brown & co have decided to go sacking...

Get real.
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: IMPORTANT MIAMI UPDATE
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:11:07 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

Florida A & M trounced Tennessee State 20-12 last weekend.

"Well we decided to call our son Dim for. . .obvious reasons."
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From: mcguire@cs.tamu.edu (Tim McGuire)
Subject: Division I-AA and II polls
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:06:33 GMT

Has anyone else noticed that the polls for Div. I-AA and Div. II are 
based on the votes of *four* voters?  (The Div. I poll has 60+ voters,
by way of comparison.)  It seems to me that it would be rather difficult 
to get an unbiased poll with so few voters.  

I guess what it shows me is that the AP is not really serious about these
two polls.  Another explanation is that there are very few sportwriters
who have a grasp on the big picture for these divisions at a national level.

Anyone have more information?

Tim McGuire
mcguire@cs.tamu.edu
From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:06:11 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

ds4@soc5.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
> 

>Bobby Bowden of the Seminoles commented that the Arizona, Miami game just shows
>how the Canes will do anything to win.....he his not only one of the best coachesin college football, but his opinion is better qualified than
your biased one. 
>Plus this is from a guy that should know :)

Oh, right, like Coaches don't routinely overrate their upcoming oponent
to get the team ready for them...
 
>Well I guess we will never know about Washington since they do not play
>anyone of note.
>
I guess we'll just have to wait to see what Washington can come up with to
beat Arizona *in Arizona*, later this year.  I'd be willing to bet they can
beat the one point spread Miami stuck to them.

So far, UW's opponents have a .850 record, vs. Miami's oponents .400.  

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire
From: ckoontz@RDXSUN40.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (Carl H. Koontz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Major Top 25 Poll Injustice
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:04:37 GMT

>>tannerg@u.washington.edu (Glenn "The Outdoors Man" Tanner) writes:
>
>In spite of their 3 game winning streak...
>In spite of their nationally ranked (#11) scoring defense...
>In spite of their darkhorse Heisman candidate QB "Dandy" Dan Freiburger...
>
>Southern Methodist University is getting no respect from the pollsters.
>I'm not crying for an actual ranking in the 20-25 range (those are reserved
>for Eastern teams which pile up good records against poor competition), but
>SMU should at least be one of the OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES.

I was wondering the same thing.  SMU is playing some of the best football in
the country right now.  After an impressive 3-1 start, you would think that
some AP voter somewhere would have found the resolve to squeeze SMU into the
number 25 slot on their voter's card.

>>The facts :
>1.  SMU is on a 3 game win streak.  Their only blemish was a one-point loss due
>    to a missed 35 yard field goal on the final play of the game.

A heart-breaking loss to a much improved Tulane team.

>2.  SMU's defense has allowed 13,14,13, and 9 points in their 4 games.

The SMU defense must be one of the better defenses in the country the way they
are playing right now.  Opponents simply can not get into the end zone on the
Mustang defense.

>3.  SMU has three proven QB's.  Todd Ritz nearly led the Ponies to an upset
>	of bowl-bound Tulsa (26-31) in the final game last season.  Mike Romo
>	has broken all of the SMU passing records before being slowed by a
> 	knee injury (yes, even Don Meredith's records).  And last, but of    
>	course not least, darkhorse Heisman candidate "Dandy" Dan Freiburger
>	is coming of his best game, a 371 yard thrashing of the Mighty
>	Horned Frogs of TCU.
>

One of the best QB crops in the country.  Romo is even healthy now and available
for action from what I have heard.  If I was an SMU opponent, I would be frightened
by the prospect of a school's all-time passing leader being the *back up* to a
Heisman Trophy candidate having a statistical dream year as well as chalking up
the wins.

With SMU's steady incline in all of the computer rankings both on the net and in
the papers, I would look for SMU to start picking up some votes very soon.

Carl
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Subject: Chief ? Illiniwek (Big 10 marching bands - Ugh!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:45:06 GMT


The one thing I did like among Big Boring 10 marching bands (and I've seen
them all) was Chief Illiniwek (and the music). Just wondering - have they
changed his name now to Mr. Illiniwek?
From: JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu (John Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Best Marching Band -- Blue Band ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:24:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92273.112426JXJ101
Organization: Penn State University

In my understanding, the Penn State Marching Blue Band is one of the best.
They've got a good sound (if they're facing me in the student section and not
just bouncing off the alumni), and their pre-game show is great.  They can
certainly high-step with the best of them.  They've also been getting a little
less rigid with their halftime shows, like a week or two ago when they played
'I can't dance' and marched in a goofy step reminiscent of the video.  It was
pretty funny.  Most of the Penn State Blue banders aren't music majors, but
Penn State does have a music major available.  I'm suprised to see that
none of the Blue Banders on the net have chimed in yet.


John
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