From: rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Attn users of PowerLaunch, File Fanatic, & Bongo Bob
Date: 11 Dec 1992 13:20:59 -0500
Organization: The Tao of Programming
NNTP-Posting-Host: mthvax.cs.miami.edu

Please note :

As of December 14th, my address has changed. All US Mail sent regarding
PowerLaunch, File Fanatic, and Bongo Bob should now be addressed to :

Roby Sherman - P.O. box 110177 - Aurora, CO. 80042

or electronically to :

rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu



	   thanks,


		 Roby
--
rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu                                    Roby Sherman

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:06:26 CST
From: C526142@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Subject: be careful about serial number panel on your Mac

A while ago some people complained about how their Qudra 700
lost the rubber stand during some warranty service. My own
experiencr was that you could lose more than that, or even
much much more than that.

After I got my PB for two days, I found the power switch was
sticking. The friendly campus repair shop sent them back to
Apple this Monday and got it here Thursday afternoon. Poor PB!
It was only two days old and had to suffer some major operation.
When I picked it up this moring (Friday), it start up normally.
The sticking problem was gone. I thought I was quite satisfied
after all, so I showed it to my wife proudly and said, "See!
It is in godd shape once again." " Really? Let me see." Wait!
The door of modem port was gone. And, the serial number panel
was not there either. What? Not only the sticking power switch
was gone, but also the I/O door and serial number.

After a few phone call to campus repair shop and 800-SOS-APPL,
and also a few hours of anxiety, it turned out that the original
upper case was out of shape and caused the sticking problem, so
the APPLE people put a new upper case. However, they forgot to
put back the serial number and I/O door. What a amazing surgery
it was. They promised to send me a new I/O door. As for the
serial number, It was impossible to issue another one, but they
would send me a letter mention the situation and, if necessary,
that letter could be the proof of serial number, ownership, and
etc. They guarranty that there would be no problem for the
warranty and all the related information was in their file.

The moral is: Check out your Mac thoroughly next time you have
you Mac serviced. Don't hasitate to ask the question. These
people on the other end of APPLE hot line are very respnsive.

Liu, Kuang-Yu

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:39:11 GMT
From: Jonathan Kolodny
<jonathan.kolodny@mrc-applied-psychology.cambridge.ac.uk>
Subject: British clip-art

	I am trying to put together an invitation to a party whose theme
involves the American War of Independence.  While I have had no trouble
finding
clip art of the Stars and Stripes, or other symbols of American pageantry, my
search through the /art/ directory on Sumex has failed to produce any British
equivalents.  Could anyone direct me to clip-art of the Union Jack, or any
other such national symbols?  Pictures of Redcoats would be especially
appreciated!

Cheers,

Jonathan Kolodny

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 22:04:09 PST
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu (John Thoo)
Subject: DEClaser 1152 (Q)

Has anyone actually used the new DEClaser 1152?  Is it worth the
(presently) low price of $999 + cables?  Or was that last question
a silly one?  Thanks.

--John.  <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 23:10:15 EST
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: Disk replicates itself!! (R)

Okay, I have seen this behavior before, once long ago with a MicroTech Nova 50
hard drive on a Mac Plus.  I cannot remember which of the problems caused it,
but it could be one of these two: a bad SCSI cable or a SCSI ID on the drive
that is 7.

It could be a bad SCSI cable, as it was with mine if I remember correctly, or
it could be any sour component of the SCSI bus (I'd be careful doing any trial
and error elimination by hooking this drive up to other machines...).  Or, it
could be the invalid address of 7, which I've seen before--you can't use that
address as it belongs to the Mac on the SCSI chain.

Hope this helps.  Good luck!

Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 09:24:18 EST
From: Ephraim Vishniac <ephraim@Think.COM>
Subject: Disk Replicates Itself (A)

Gordon Byron inquired why an external disk appeared six times, and his
internal disk not at all.

The likely answer is that the external disk has been set to SCSI
address 7, the same as the Macintosh. When a SCSI initiator (the Mac)
selects a SCSI target (the disk), it asserts both its own ID (7) and
the target's ID (something else) on the SCSI bus.  Thus, the target
can both see that it's selected and know who the initiator of the
command is.

When the target is set to the initiator's address, however, it will
believe that it's been selected every time the initiator attempts to
select any device. I've seen this lead to seven images of a disk on
the desktop. Gordon probably got only six because of the further
conflict caused by his internal disk.

Ephraim Vishniac    ephraim@think.com   ThinkingCorp@applelink.apple.com
 Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 17:53:51 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Subject: Finding parent of a folder window

>In the heading of nifty utilities, something that would modify the title
>bar of a Finder window to open and select the folder which contains that
>window would be appreciated.  I didn't find anything in the info-mac
>abstracts.  Anyone have any ideas?  Any toolbox gurus interested in
>working on it as a challenge?  The idea is that I have a folder open
>on the desktop, but I don't necessarily know where that folder is
>in the hierarchy.  Basically a button in the title bar (like in DataDesk,
>for those who have it) that when you click on it, the parent folder to
>that window would open up, and the appropriate folder would be selected.

If you have System 7 and the window in question is the active window,
simply type Command-up arrow and the parent window will open, with the
original folder highlighted. Look in the "Finder Shortcuts" item under the
Help (?) menu item for some more little goodies like this.
-----
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu   All opinions are mine alone
TopSoft free software for the Mac mail to ts-general@syrinx.kgs.ukans.edu

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 11:16:34 +1000
From: m.connell%ucq.edu.au@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Franklin Systems

HELP ! ! ! ! !

Can someone (and it would be easy for someone in SALT LAKE CITY) **please**
get a Phone / Fax / Email address for the company  below.  It is more than
a little difficult to get this info from Australia.

FRANKLIN ESTIMATING SYSTEMS
P.O. BOX 526199
SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH

this is all the info I have.

Thanks.

Please reply to M.CONNELL@UCQ.EDU.AU

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:40:26 EST
From: bouldin@anvil.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Generating HPGL from a Mac Application (A)

After my inquiry, several folks said they also wanted to know how to
get HPGL from Mac Apps. The solution is MacPlot Professional from
Microspot. It will spool HPGL to a disc file, as well as sending it to
a zillion different printers. They are at (800) MAC-PLOT, whatever that is
in digits. It is pricy, list is $395; too rich for me!

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:39:34 EST
From: "Terence R. Slywka" <TSLYWKA@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Harpoon Bug (A)

I am also an avid Harpoon player, having Battlesets 1-4 and the Designer's
Series.  Many other scenarios are available via ftp.  I would consider myself
somewhat of a military historian and strategist.

BTW, three-sixty also has another great military simulation called V for
Victory.  The Russian Front battleset was just released.

Terence

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 03:06:52 GMT
From: dpf@sage1.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Friedlander)
Subject: How did the Macintosh get i

>          How did the Macintosh get its name? (A)
>'Tis the seasoin for some whimsey, fa la la la la...

>I do not know why Apple decided to spell the name differently, but I do
>recall that they paid some small and now long forgotten company a rather
>large sum to use the name.  Seems it had been employed for some minor niche
>product for a while.

Really? My understanding was that Apple licensed the rights from McIntosh,
the longtime American high-end stereo manufacturer (which is still very
much around). (Or is this also a myth/urban legend?)

And we we won't even get into what Apple had to pay to buy the rights
to use "Classic" :-)

Speaking of trademark infringementsand such, what ever happened to the Apple
Records (the Beatles' label) vs. Apple Computer lawsuit? (As I recall,
the former accused the latter of reneging on its agreement not to enter
the music business.)

--
   David Friedlander                     dpf@sage0.gsfc.nasa.gov
   NASA/ Goddard Space Flight Center
   Greenbelt, MD  20771                  Gamma Ray Observatory

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 8:10:15 PDT
From: Rick_Sutcliffe@faith.twu.ca (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: How did the Macintosh get i

	   How did the Macintosh get its name? (A)
Enough, enough, I give in.

No sooner had  digest #293 appeared than several people wrote me offering
corrections to my little piece on the origin of the name.

Typical were the several who pointed out the the fruit is spelled
"McIntosh."  Bad editing.

Others took issue with my characterization of the company Apple paid
royalties to as a minor niche player:

"The McIntosh Labs Audio corporation is hardly small _or_ forgotton and
their very high end and very high quality audio gear is hardly a minor
niche product. McIntosh audio gear is among the highest quality out there."

was a typical comment.  True, too true.  But, all in its context.  Apple
does not make hi-fi equipment, and McIntosh does not make computers.  In the
context of the computing industry, McIntosh is unknown.  Still, I should not
have relied on such a vague memory.  Will Y'all stop hitting me.  My mailbox
can't stand the violence.

Rick

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:54:01 EST
From: jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead)
Subject: How did the Macintosh get its name (A)

Although Rick Sutcliffe basically answered the question about the
Macintosh name's derivation correctly, in what appears to be a typo he
spelled the edible apple's name incorrectly.

McIntosh is the edible apple, and Macintosh is the inedible computer.

The McIntosh apple was first cultivated (around 1796) by John McIntosh
and grows primarily in the northern United States.

Apple Computer made agreements to use the name Macintosh with the
high-end music amplifier company McIntosh (based in New York State) and,
I believe, with a group representing McIntosh apple growers.

|   John      jfw@neuro.duke.edu          Duke University Medical Center |
| Whitehead   jfw@well.sf.ca.us           Department of Neurobiology     |

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 07:56:33 PST
From: Andrew_R._Melnyk.WBST130@xerox.com
Subject: How did the Macintosh get its name? (A) (Trivia)

To Richard Lim`s question on how the MAC was named.   The name indeed was for
a
variery of apples, primarilly grown in Nothwest US, called Mcintosh, I
believe.
Whether the misspelling was deliberate (trademark) or accidental (computer
types tend to short change their liberal education) I dont know.  Maybe
someone
>From Apple can comment on this trivia.

Andy

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 08:17:15 -0500
From: "Steve Marsh"  <marsh2@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: How the Mac got its name (C)

Just a quickie - the apple (edible) is spelled McIntosh, and the spelling was
changed for some unknown reason for the costlier Apples.

- Steve Marsh  "marsh@anvil.nrl.navy.mil"   ;-)

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 01:52:33 -0800
From: Michael Ross <mross@antigone.uu.holonet.net>
Subject: HP 4M Laser Printer (A)

In Info-Mac you write:
>Oh, one other thing. Someone with an Apple LaserWriter driver can
>see your 4M if you have it Appletalked (my serial port is otherwise
>engaged).I hope HP can suggest a way round this - I don't want my
>colleagues printing on my printer, and they don't all understand the
>Chooser. Meanwhile, I toggle the online switch to reduce chances of
>unauthorized printing.

It's not HP's problem. This will happen to any printer on AppleTalk.
There is one utility called ChooserUser, written by Maurice Volaski,
that restricts who can see a printer in the Chooser. However, it
would have to be installed on your colleagues' Macs as well as
yours...

ChooserUser used to be in the sumex archives, but I can't seem to see
it there anymore....

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:19:17 EST
From: syen@europa.seas.upenn.edu (Shih-Cheng Yen)
Subject: HP LaserJet Driver (Q)

We recently got a HP LaserJet from someone and are thinking of
hoooking it up to a Quadra. The only thing we have is the power cord
>From the printer. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to set up the
printer so that we can print from the Mac? Especially things like
printer drivers (where to get them?), cables, compatability,
Postscript(?), etc.

I would appreciate any help you can give!

-Shih Cheng

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:04:08 +0100
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <cbuser@pegasus.ch>
Subject: Info-Mac CD-ROM

ben@geography.leeds.ac.uk (Ben Fowler) asked recently about the
availability of the Info-Mac CD in the United Kingdom.

If anyone in Europe is  interested in the CD, Macintosh  Users Switzerland
has imported a bunch of them and makes them available to everyone.

The CD is available against advance payment. You have 3 possibilities:

(a) transfer  the amount  of Swiss  Francs 80  per CD  to the  postal giro
account no. 80-772-0  in Zuerich, Switzerland.  Make sure all  charges are
charged to you, otherwise we can't send the CD.

(b) issue a EUROCHEQUE for the  amount of Swiss Francs 80 per  CD (maximum
value per Eurocheque is Swiss Francs 300) and note your card number on the
back of  the Eurocheque.  Please do  NOT send  Eurocheques issued in other
currencies than Swiss Francs.

(c) Have your  bank issue a  cheque in Swiss  Francs and drawn  on a SWISS
bank.

The  price  of  Swiss  Francs  80  includes  shipping/handling for Western
European addresses by surface mail (including United Kingdom). Please make
sure to include a note that you want the Info-Mac CD.

The Address is       Macintosh Users Switzerland
		     Sekretariat
		     Postfach 6662
		     CH-8022 Zuerich
		     Switzerland

The price per CD for MEMBERS in Switzerland is Swiss Francs 65  (including
postage); Swiss Francs 70 for non-members within Switzerland. Membership
is Swiss Francs 100 per year.

Best regards, Christian                  cbuser@pegasus.ch

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:00:35 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ian C McCall <csc345@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: JPEG in Photoshop questions

I'm asking these questions on behalf of a friend, who has no net access.

Is there a plug-in for Photoshop that will allow you to read standard
JPEG format files? And if so, is it commercial or public domain?

Additionally, is there any method of getting Photoshop to save JPEG
compressed PICT files, as opposed to standard ones?

Finally, can JPEG files be created from Photoshop's Indexed Colour mode?

I'll be away for the Christmas break from today, so if you could email
any replies to me I'll have a greater chance of seeing them. Thanks in
advance for any information received.


Cheers,
	Ian
	csc345@cent1.lancs.ac.uk

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:34:14 +0900 (JST)
From: yhchung%rnd.sec.samsung.co.kr@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (CHUNG YOUNG HO)
Subject: LaserWrtier problem

Hello, everybody!!

I have a LaserWriter II NTX-K with 80Mbyte hard disk for 2-byte fonts.
and I have used it for 2 years.
When I turn it on every morning, it sometimes doesn't put out the first paper
 inndicating the status of system like PostScript, AppleTalk, RAM size and
 externall device.
So I have to turn it off and restart it.
I heard somebody say it can be fixed.
I'll expect all kinds of help.
Thanks in advance

--
 ------------------------------------
Youngho Chung
e-mail: yhchung@rnd.sec.samsung.co.kr
 ------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:29:28 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: LISP on Macintosh (A)

When Apple bought Coral Software it released Coral's low-end Lisp, Pearl
Lisp, into the public domain. Or so an article in Byte at the time said.
Pearl Lisp is very capable, and if you can find it, that's what you
should go for.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:45:55 -0600
From: bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov
Subject: Lisp on the mac (A)

Anyhow, I was recently looking for a LISP implementation on the mac for
hacking around at home. I found several Lisp or Scheme varients around, but
by far the best was XLISP, which is freeware. It is a very good
implementation of all the basics of Common Lisp, and is actually better
than some versions I've seen in the multi-$100 range.

I found it at mac.archive.umich.edu, in the /development/languages
subdirectory. The file is xlispstat2.1r2.cpt.hqx. This version includes a
lot of statistics packages which you can keep or not. There is a version
for machines with or without coprocessor. I took home just the application
without, and apparently left some resources behind because it opened with
no menu items. Not having cut and paste was a major pain. I just opened the
coprocessor version on my IIx at work to get this info, and the menus are
there. Boy, that would have made programming easier! It seems to have a
nice editing/interpretting environment.

There's not much documentation with it, but version 1 of Guy Steel's Common
Lisp works great. You should be able to find that easily -- it's very
standard.

Bryan Walls
bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 17:59:26 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Subject: login request rejected?

>Why is it that my anonymous login to sumex-aim is so often rejected after
>I put in my mail address as my password?  This occurs at all odd hours
>and I can see no reason why it continues to occur.  Any ideas?

An FTP host can set a limit to the number of simultaneous connections or
guest connections allowed, and I assume that sumex-aim has such a limit. If
you try to log in when the number of connections is at its limit, your
login will be refused. Simply wait, and try again later (or look into using
Gopher instead, which, since it doesn't require a continuous connection, is
much more likely to succeed).
-----
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu   All opinions are mine alone
TopSoft free software for the Mac mail to ts-general@syrinx.kgs.ukans.edu

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:10:23 PST
From: Andrew_R._Melnyk.WBST130@xerox.com
Subject: Macintosh quality (C) and keyboard question (Q)

I support Eloise Kleban`s comment on the complaint (Info-Mac Digest V10 #291)
about Macintosh quality.  My experience, going back to a 1979 Apple II is that
Apple builds quality harware.

I (now my daughter) have a Mac purchased in 1984 still running like a charm.
It has been upgraded to a 512E and then to a 2.5M Plus by a Dove snap on
board.
It has gotten a lot of use, it got my wife through her PhD program and one
daughter through college.  Since my youger daughter has taken the SE, I have
been using the old MAC on occassion to run programs incompattible with system
7.  While a little let down from  my IIfx, it has been running great.  Last
week my daughter complained that sometimes it would hang up.  After checking
the sofware for viruses I figured that the snap-on connections are the source
so I took it apart.  I reset the boards, udjusted the power supply back to 5V
and reset the Screen.  (Note: the author of SAM`s book on Mac repair, whose
name escapes me at the moment, recommends enlarging the screen beyond the 72
dot/in WYSIWG.  This realy is an improvement which I would reccommend unless
exact WYSIWYG is important to you.).  The resetting of the Dove boards worked
as the Mac no longer hangs up.

In summary, my experience is that Apple makes a good product.  The DOS and
workstation machines I have at work have more problems than my Apples.

However there is one problem about to happen that I would like the netters to
help me with.  This machine still has the original small keyboard with phone
plugs.  A year ago some of the keys began to skip.  I took it apart and and
cleaned it with compressed air which solved the problem for a while.  (The
technique worked on my Apple II Cherry board, which probably has not been used
as much in the last 8 years but got a hell of a pounding by my kids playing
games).  Lately, it started to do it again, different keys.  My Sam`s manual
suggest using penetrating oil such as DW44 on the switches.

My question:  What has been your experience in fixing this old keyboard?  And
are there any replacements available for this phone jack version?

Thanks in advance
Andy

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:53 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL@SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK>
Subject: Mail for Macintosh new mail notifications

Me and our Vax system manager (apologies for bad grammar) have been puzzling
over this one; maybe somebody out there can help.
We use the Mail for Macintosh application which ships with DEC Pathworks to
access mail facilities on our Vax.  According to Mail for Macintosh's menus,
it is possible for new mail notifications to be broadcast to the Macintosh
via DECNet or the AppleTalk-DECNet gateway.  You just have to enable
notification in the Remote Preferences dialog box.  That's been done, but no
new mail notifications have ever materialised!
According to the online help, this will only work if the Pathworks Listener
is installed, but this is done as part of the default installation.  We
can't locate a file or resource anywhere that looks like it might be that.
Furthermore our manuals don't even mention notifications or the Remote Prefs
menu item - as far as they are concerned, you have to manually (no pun
intended) check for mail that arrives while you are in the application.  The
Mail for Macintosh user's guide appears to be the most recent edition and
agrees with the version number of the program.
So what is the mysterious Pathworks Listener, and how do we sort our
notifications out?

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 09:13:40 PDT
From: gla-aux!glenn@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu (Glenn Austin)
Subject: Missing Omega SANE Patch

In article <9212082127.AA08434@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
(Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu), you write:
> ...Unless, of course, someone knew how to program an Extension to put
> the Omega SANE patch in System 7.1.  I know there are some excellent
> programmers out there--would any of you be willing and able to
> develop such a work?

There is already a program out there that is *FASTER* (yes, faster!) than
OmegaSANE -- it's called QuickSANE, and it is available from Total Systems.
Their number is 1-800-874-2288 (503-345-7395 for those who don't have 800
access).

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:27 CST
From: Daniel Schwalbe <G00017@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Missing Omega SANE Patch (R)

> I wonder if Maple isn't doing some of its own patching of the SANE
> routines? I'm certainly no expert, either on system design or on numeric
> packages, but it seems strange that the benchmarks would be so significantly
> different without _any_ effect on the real world performance.

What is confusing to me is the FPU benchmarks I got with speedometer
which showed a slight increase in FPU performance on a Mac IIci.


			System 7.0.1*      System 7.1
	FPU FFT         1.75                    1.83
	FPU KWhet       2.14                    2.16
	FPU Matrix      2.30                    2.30
	FPU Ave.        2.06                    2.10


While the BYTE results by Tom Thompson for FPU tests

		    System 7.0.1*      System 7.1

    FPU tests
      Math              32.39             81.78
      Sin(x)             9.68             40.54
      e^x                9.95             54.48

showed a slowdown in FPU performance.

My original impression of the OMEGA SANE patch was that it was
supposed to speed up SANE calls while calls to the FPU which were
already bypassing SANE were unaffected. However, this is not what
the BYTE benchmarks indicate.

Unless, as you suggested, Maple is bypassing SANE while other Mac
programs call the SANE routines which are then passed on to the FPU.
This would mean the FPU benchmarks of speedometer were bypassing
SANE calls while the BYTE benchmarks were going through SANE.

Seems to be a bit of inSANE reasoning.

Dan

------------------------------

Date: 10 Dec 1992 23:23:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: DSOUTH@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: Missing Omega SANE Patch (R)

>From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
>Subject: Missing Omega SANE Patch (R)
>
>In Regards to your letter <01GS30Y2WVPS0014II@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU>:
>> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1992 19:02 CST
>> From: Daniel Schwalbe <G00017@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU>
>> Subject: Missing Omega SANE Patch (R)
>>
>>  from Neil Eric Mickelson:
>>
>> > Anyone see the benchmarks between System 7.0.1 (with Omega SANE
>> > patch) and 7.1 (without the patch) in the latest TidBITS??  Pretty
>> > big slowdown on those math functions, huh?  Well, I use a high-end
>> > math package (Mathematica) for a lot of my work, and I'm getting a
>> > IIvx, which only runs System 7.1.  Thus, I'm kind of resigned to a
>> > slowdown.
>>
>> I found in a real world situation (running a high end math package
>> called Maple) that 7.1 was actually slightly faster (2-3%) on the
>> Maple routines I use running on a IIci. Further, I ran speedometer
>> before and after and although there was significant slow-downs on some
>> of the math benchmarks, the fpu benchmarks were slightly better for
>> 7.1. My results are in the report posted to info-mac by Mel Martinez
>> in the file:  /info-mac/report/sys-70-71-speeds.txt.
>>
>> Dan Schwalbe
>
>I wonder if Maple isn't doing some of its own patching of the SANE
>routines? I'm certainly no expert, either on system design or on numeric
>packages, but it seems strange that the benchmarks would be so significantly
>different without _any_ effect on the real world performance.

I would assume that the speedometer FPU benchmarks look unchanged because
they are calling the 68882 DIRECTLY.  As I recall, Omega SANE was really
just a "short circuting" of the toolbox so that calls to some SANE routines
would go to the 68882 directly. If the code is already calling the
FPU directly, the existance of Omega SANE (or existance of any other
toolbox modification) won't matter much.

Many of the math packages that are responsible for tying up CPU time
probably already bypass SANE, so I don't think the lack of the Omega patch
is go to be THAT big a deal for most of us (but then again, I have access
to an 8000 node massively parallel machine for my research, so I don't
usually HAVE to make my PowerBook work up a sweat).

Those who really want to sacrifice accuracy for speed can find one
of the many math copro INITs that do essentially the same thing as
the Omega patch.

If loss of Omega SANE gets a RISC mac out the door a week sooner, I
am all for it.
--
/* Dale Southard Jr.                                   Sr. Rigger      */
/* Department of Chemistry                            AFF/I   SL/I     */
/* University of Toledo                                  D-11216       */
/* dsouth@uoft02.utoledo.edu -- "Just another skydiving grad student." */

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 92 12:04:57 EST
From: Charlie Summers <72257.140@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: My thanks! (128K Software)

Folks;

   My thanks to all who responded to my request for 128K Mac System Software!

   I have received a disk image version of System 2.0/Finder 2.2 (Apple now
calls it 0.3...).

	 Charlie

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:41:20 ITA
From: maurizio lana <LANA%ITOCSIVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: NEC CDROM driver in rascal.ics.utexas.edu

This is to explain more precisely what I wrote some days ago.
In wuarchive.wustl.edu, under mirrors3/rascal.ics.utexas.edu/support-
-of-products/NEC you find CDROM-driver_2.25_hqx, a driver that some people
(in CDROM-L) said would support multisession Photo-CD by Kodak.
If you ftp to rascal.ics.utexas.edu directly *you don't find* the driver
because there isn't a NEC dir under support-of-products!
In my previous message I spoke very quickly assuming that many other people
kne
w something about thi matter; also, as it was very late (1:30 AM!) I did a
mist
ake writing the name of the server as wust, while it is wustl.
Sorry for the inconvenience; hope this message will help.
Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: LANA@ITOCSIVM.BITNET  | phone & fax 39-11-837262
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

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Date: 10 Dec 1992 18:50:17 -0700 (MST)
From: John Glaser <JSGLASER@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: NeXT SIMMs/locking files/tape drives/sound-data

I have four unrelated (of course, they are all Macintosh) questions to ask:

	1) NeXT SIMMs:  Our lab has the oppurtunity to acquire four SIMMs
>From a NeXTStation that a friend's professor is upgrading. I'd like to
confirm that we can use these in our Mac IIci. (I see no reason why not,
but I've been wrong before;).

	2) File locking utility:  Is there a small freeware or shareware
	utility
that can lock and unlock all the files in a directory? We have a
directory of command files for MATLAB which we modify for our own purposes,
but wish to lock the directory of originals so that no one can accidentally
modify them. By the way, we use Student MATLAB ($50) for a lot of
numbercrunching and it works great. It's main limitation compared to the
professional version is that matrices and vectors are restricted to <=1024
elements.

	3) Sound data files:  Is there a program available on the net that
converts sound files to ascii files containing the sound data, i.e., a file
that contains a sound amplitude value for each sample time in the
sound sample.

	4) Tape Drives:  I have recently seen 120 Meg tape drives for (gulp!)
DOS machines for $200 including a cartridge. This was an internal unit sold at
BizMart (made by Colorado Memory Systems). This may be a stupid question, but
why are there no comparably priced units for Macs? A power supply, case,
and SCSI interface can't cost all that much. I mean, a comparable Mac drive
is $500.The backup-to-floppy problem is getting out of hand, but is the only
option we have right now.

Any answers or comments (humorous ones included) are appreciated.

Thanks, John (jsglaser@ccit.arizona.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:54:50 GMT
From: summeral@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Summerall  Thomas G)
Subject: Outbound lays off 50 workers, ceases production.

The word here in Boulder, where Outbound has its factory, is that they ceased
manufacturing on tuesday and are looking for a buyer.

This closes an interesting chapter in the debate over whether or not mac
compatibles should exist.  Outbound seemed to have attained viability when
Apple agreed to sell them plus ROMs for use in their units.

But I guess people were scared of a small company who couldn't guarantee
compatibility with future system software or continued cooperation from
Apple.

Some of their units were much more feature packed than comparably priced
powerbooks, and were hardware upgradeable as well.

They had a lot of innovations, but in the Mac side of the market it seems that
there still isn't room for outside competition.

This brings up what to me is one of the most interesting aspects of the
PowerPC
agreement between IBM and Apple.  Will any PowerPC run the new OS that's
being developed by Apple and IBM at Kaleida (or Taligent, I can never keep
those silly monikers straight?)  If so, it seems that the market will change
drasticlly when Apple is faced with hardware/software compatibles made by
third parties.  It's a little different from the PC compatibles because IBM
and Apple will have shares of the OS profits which are now all garnered by
Microsoft from the PCs.  Will the fees for hardware/software rights be so high
that any competition will be forced to be as expensive as Apple?  Or will
there
be an explosion of cheap compatibles like there is for the PCs?

And what is Microsoft planning in case the PowerPCs become dominant.  Will
they
have some PowerPC version of windows?

FYI,

Thomas Summerall

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 22:37:36 EST
From: "M. David Greenspon" <GREMICF@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Subject: PB 160 as SCSI drive (A)

No, you can't use the PB 160 to run anything when it's hooked up to another
computer as a SCSI drive.  When the SCSI drive adapter is plugged in and you
turn on the PowerBook, it goes into "SCSI Disk Mode," displaying only a large
moving SCSI icon.  To do what you want, I guess you'd have to set up a tiny
(two-computer) AppleTalk network.

--David

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:01:20 PST
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: PD UUCP client (Q)

The San Francisco IEEE is providing a low cost UUCP internet connection for
IEEE members. Of course, they have DOS UUCP clients and Mac users need to
find something on their own. Know of any Public Domain UUCP clients for the
Mac that handle E-mail and NetNews?

If not Public Domain, which commercial UUCP client do people prefer?

Thanks,
Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:01 EST
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
Subject: Processing charge cards with a Mac

Ron Welker's comment in 10-293 about the new Info-Mac drive leads me to a
few comments about using the Mac to handle such things.

There were over 200 e-mail messages with charge card contributions to
process. A QuicKeys macro and Eudora were convenient to acknowledge all
contributions (with thanks again, everyone). I cut and pasted the relevant
information from each message into a FileMaker Pro database. And now we get
cute.

Usually charge cards are processed by creating a sales slip (you get a
copy, the merchant gets a copy or two, the bank gets a copy) with your
actual card imprint. Or processing is electronic--your card swipes through
a terminal which gets approval on-line. What do you do when you have no
cards? There are ways to handle it, of course--but most involve tedious
manual keying or typing. My own usual processing method works over the
phone; for a mail/phone order, I'm supposed to punch in each number on a
touchtone phone in response to voice requests. How would you do it with a
Mac?

Here's my solution. I did it through a modem. I figured out that I needed a
format like this:
1#,,1234567891234#,,0493#,,10000#;
Each comma represents a two second delay, which is about how long is needed
for the charge card computer voice to reach the next stage in its
questioning for such manual inputs; the number sign separates the needed
information of 1 for sale, card number, expiration date, amount of charge.
The semicolon at the end returns the modem to the command state, so that it
doesn't abort when it doesn't hear an answering modem on the other end.

A calculated field in FM Pro gave me the basic format. But cutting/pasting
put in extraneous information, so output appeared as:
1#,,1234-5678-91234#,,04/93#,,$100.00#
instead of the needed format. No problem: those extra characters /-$. have
no corresponding touchtone sound, so the modem ignores them.

Final step was to just get connected, copy each line to the clipboard, and
use a neat FKey named DialKey to paste the clipboard contents to the modem
port for each charge. (My modem accepts a command line up to 256
characters.) All worked smooth as silk...


Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 1992 15:00:59 +0001
From: ZIPETO%IPVGBE@icil64.cilea.it
Subject: Request of information

Hi!
I'm writing you all from italy!
I'm doing this 'cause I need an information (and I hope you could help me);
the question is the following:
Do you know if exist a drive which allows a MS-DOS computer (in particular,
a 486 based machine) to print on an Apple Style Writer in your archive?
And if not, do you know if it exist? And if yes, where and/or how can I get
it? Should I ask for it directly to Apple? Have you Apple's E-mail address?
Thanks for help!
Best regards!
Dr. Donato Zipeto
c/o IGBE-CNR
Via Abbiategrasso 207
I-27100 Pavia (italy)
E-mail: ZIPETO%IPVGBE@ICIL64.CILEA.IT

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 1992 08:27:08 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Retrospect Question Revised

     Retrospect Question Revised (A)
lt10@cornell.edu (Li-Hsiang Tu) asks:

>I have 2 floppy disks called CDEV1 and CDEV2 to store all the CDEV files
>that I downloaded from sumex, an annoymous ftp site. The collection
>contains the CDEV files that I use and those that I don't use.   Now I want
>to archive all those CDEV files (all in either Compactor Pro or StuffIt
>format) into a tape under a folder called CDEV Folder.
>
>First I create a folder called CDEV Folder in my hard drive, and I copy the
>contents of the disks CDEV1 and CDEV2 into the folder in my hard drive.
>Then I use Retrospect to archive the folder.
>
>However, I have to erase the folder and the contents in my hard drive
>because I need the space.  That's the reason that I use the floppy disks to
>store all those CDEV files.  But later, say tomorrow, I download some more
>CDEV files, and I would like to archive them under the SAME folder in the
>tape so that I am able to see all the CDEV files that I have with only one
>click.  I can do this very easily with a hard drive.  I would just copy the
>files to the CDEV Folder, then I can see all the files that I have
>downloaded regardless of the time and date that I downloaded the files.  Is
>there a way to do that in Retrospect?  If not, does anyone know if version
>2.0 is going to address that?

To which I respond:

Hello, fellow Cornellian!  This is actually very easily done with Retrospect.

Let's make use of the tape that you're backing your hard drive up to, which
I'll call "HD Archive".  When you set up the routine to back up your hard
drive, you choose the volume(s) that you wish to back up, then choose the
medium to which you wish to back up to and name the archive catalog.  This
archive catalog is a file that resides on your hard drive that keeps track of
what files are backed up on the tape.  The name of the archive catalog is on
the tape header, so when you run the backup script for this archive, it knows
that you've got the right tape in.

OK, let's go with that.  Retrospect will directly back up any volume that you
have mounted on your desktop (floppy disks, file servers, etc.).  In
conjunction with the Retrospect Remote software, you can also back up other
users' hard drives across the network.  With this first statement in mind,
here's how to do what you're trying to do:

   -> Put the "HD Archive" tape in your TEAC drive.
   -> Put the first disk (CDEV 1) into your floppy drive.
   -> Launch Retrospect.  Click on the BACKUP button.
   -> Select the CDEV 1 volume from the source list.  Click NEXT.
   -> Select the "HD Archive" catalog file from the next screen.  Click NEXT.
   -> This is the Files section.  If you only have one backup volume
      selected, it will start reading the files off of that volume.  It also
      goes through and finds any new or modified files since the last backup.
      When it's finished, it displays a hierarchical view of the files it
      found.  Click NEXT.
   -> Set any backup options on this last screen.  I usually set "Compress
      Files".  Word of caution:  If you're using this tape to back up your
      hard drive as well, DO NOT select "Reset Archive".  You might think
      it resets the archive just for the disk that you're currently backing
      up, but, in fact, IT DELETES THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THE THE ARCHIVE
      CATALOG, ERASING ALL PREVIOUS BACKUPS MADE ON THAT TAPE.

Why, then, would you want to check this option?  Well, continual incremental
backups keeps a comprehensive copy of EVERYTHING since you started backing
up.
This includes a lot of files that might have long been deleted.  By resetting
the archive periodically (for a single user, maybe once every 3 months) you'll
be able to keep a fresh up-to-date copy of what you want and you'll recoup a
lot of wasted tape space taken up by files that no longer exist.

You could then repeat the above procedure for CDEV 2 and any other floppy
disks
you wish to back up.  I'm not sure, but I think you might be able to set up
scripts (using Retrospect's Script feature) to automate the process a little.
Then when you run the script, I think it might just prompt you for the disk.
Another time-saver can be realized if you have a second floppy drive; you
insert both disks, click on one and option-click (for selecting non-contiguous
volumes from the volume list) on the other.  Then you can back them both up at
the same time.

One last caveat that I've experienced:  if you're backing up a Mac that uses
virtual memory, you're ALWAYS backing up that huge (10 MB if that's what
you've
got virtual memory set up for) invisible file called "VM Storage".  Since this
file is dynamically changing all the time, it will always be backed up, even
during an incremental backup.  I was running out of room on a 2 GB (!) DAT
tape
because I was backing up around 50 users' Macs remotely, and quite a few of
them had VM enabled.  That ate up space quick!  There is a modification to the
ALL FILES parameter that you can exclude the VM Storage from your backup as
well as the Desktop files.  I got the instructions from Dantz.  If anyone
would
like me to share the fix on Info-Mac, let me know and I'll post it soon!

Hope this helps!  Sorry for the length!  I have been experiencing a period of
great verbosity lately!  :-)


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:59:46 GMT
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <g.s.byron%stirling.ac.uk@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: SCSI propblem

ThaNKS to all who answered my query. I found that the scsci *was* set
to 7. I changed it to 1 and got most of the stuff back. The disk came
up quite well re FAT problems etc and I have now returned it to a
relieved owner(who denies having changed the setting). thanks again
gordon

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:50:55 GMT
From: roh@gmd.de (Peter Rohleder)
Subject: SE/30's PDS

In digest <9212100054.AA13202@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Dear Netters,

>My SE/30's PDS has been occupied by a graphic board.
>And I would like to connect it to the Ethernet
>by cards.

>Does anyone know how the SE/30's PDS could be doubled ?
>Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Look in one of the major Macintosh magazines(MacWorld, MacUser).
Some companies are offering external boxes which enable you to
have access to the Ethernet via the SCSI-port. But I have never
used one of these boxes so I can't tell you, if they work
reliable.

Peter Rohleder

--
  Peter Rohleder, e-mail: peter.rohleder@gmd.de  Tel.:  +49 2241 14-2208
  German National Research Center for Computer Science (GMD)
  Schloss Birlinghoven, P.O.Box 1316, D-5205 Sankt Augustin 1, FR Germany

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 11:50 BST
From: Richard Lim <RTL@SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK>
Subject: Self-rejoining segmented files

Are there any utilities out there which will segment a file in such a way
that the files can be rejoined without the original application being
present?
I sometimes want to distribute very large files which won't fit on floppies
and I don't want to have to pass around the utility which did the file
splitting as well.
I suppose the "easy" way is to binhex the file and then cut the binhex up
into chunks which can be rejoined by a text editor, but since binhexing
makes large files even larger, this is not a very convenient solution

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 11:07:42 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Startup sound app

In Regards to your letter <199212110117.AA18672@nwnexus.wa.com>:
>         There is one idea that I have that I would like to see someone post
>         here at Info-Mac.  I am not a programmer, therefore I do not have
the
>         talent to compose such a device.  I would like to see someone create
a
>         startup application for system 7 that randomly plays a sound file
from
>         a selected folder.  I have many sounds that I would love to
alternate
>         and do not want to play them all at once.  I know that there is a
cdev
>         to randomize your system beep, but that is not what I am looking
for.
>         Also, I would like to see an application so there is no init code,
or
>         memory hogging, or possible conflict with anything.  One could also
>         implement this idea by placing the application in a folder with the
>         said sound files and put an alias in the startup folder to randomly
>         play one file.  Any takers?  Also, any help on finding existing
>         similiar software would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Sounds like a good thing to do with a Frontier script for Frontier
or Frontier Runtime. The script could optionally quit after running
if you didn't wish to keep the program open after playing the random
sound.

Any takers?

cheers ... -Adam

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 92 03:40:52 GMT
From: agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (p-m agapow)
Subject: Syquest cartridge compatibility (R)

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>>Is a Syquest cardridge compatible with different drives ?
>Usually they are... 44s are usually ok with other 44 drives, and the
>same goes for 88s, but I can't guarantee you any luck with 44s in other
>88 drives, etc.

>>Does it make a difference how it was formatted ?
>Not usually, see above

As i've recently found out (regardless of what some vendors are say), the
88 Mb mechanism can read but not write to 44 Mb. This results in problems
with rewriting the desktop. So in that respect - no. Otherwise an 88 Mb
mechanism is an 88 Mb mechanism is a ... and the same for 44's.

The formatting software may make a difference, although largely with old
or poor software. More recent utilities, like DriveMaker or Drive7 have no
problems.

p-m

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au); AI Lab, LaTrobe University

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:29:07 EST
From: jcj2879@cs.rit.edu (Jeffrey C Jodoin)
Subject: System 7.1 Label's Bug

Hi all,

I just ran into a nifty(?) bug with System 7.1 the other night.  This may
exist in 7.01 as well - but I no longer have it to test to see if it does.

While sorting through my Control Panels Folder the other night, I though it
might be nice to Label (via the menu) the non-Apple Control panels.  I
selected
them all and then as a group tried to assign a label (color) to them.  The
LC chugged away - seemed to finish - and then bombed.

Upon restart, the Control Panels did have their labels changed.

Has anyone else seen this in 7.1 or even 7.01?

Thought you all should know,
Jeff J

P.S. It's an original LC with 10Mb memory and a 40Mb hard drive ... running
Gate Keeper, StuffIt Space Saver, SuperClock, etc...

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 1992 13:22:34 GMT
From: ch140@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey G. Brown)
Subject: TDD Programs for Mac

Does anyone know of any programs that allow a Macintosh to
communicate with or emulate a TDD device for the deaf?

Thanks...

Jeffrey G. Brown
ch140@cleveland.freenet.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 14:10:07 PST
From: dmullen@kerner.com (Desmond Mullen)
Subject: Telnet 2.4/PowerBook 100 problems solved

I asked if anyone knew why Telnet 2.4 crashed on my PB100 if I switched to
another application and then back to Telnet.

The answer: Telnet 2.4 cannot handle having the keyboard icon show in the menu
bar.  "Unhacking" the itlc resource in the System file so the keyboard icon
would no longer show solved the problem.  (I use a couple of keyboards for
different
languages, so I like to have the icon showing)

Telnet 2.5 does not have a problem with the keyboard icon.  I'm now using 2.5

-Desmond Mullen   dmullen@kerner.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 08:23:49 +0100
From: krona@nada.kth.se
Subject: The fifteen minute battery (R)

> You can imagine my surprise when, on trying to use it off
> battery power, it went into sleep mode after just fifteen minutes!

> Now I know that the PB100 uses SLA batteries instead of ni-cads;
> you're not supposed to drain them, but my understanding was that
> leaving the machine plugged in constantly would not damage a
> fully charged SLA cell.

It does seems that you have grounds to complain about either your
battery or the charging circuits. I have two PowerBook 100, one of
of them a year old, the other about three months old (saving them up!!)
I have them almost always plugged into the wall when I can (I even
bough a second charger to have at my work) and have not seen any ill
effects. And lead batteries should not be prone to overcharging problems
(compare with a car battery, which is almost always in "charge mode").

One other possibility, if this was only a single occurance, is that
the charger is not properly plygged in, and the battery only has a
remnant charge. If the PowerBook is put to sleep, the battery will
"refresh" itself a little bit, but will fail almost immediately when
used again. I have had it happen to me on some occasions that the
charger appeared to have been connected but, in old wall outlet, slipping
a little due to its weight and losing contact. After a while, the PB
will go into sleep mode due to lack of power, I will disconnect it, leave
for home, and when I awake it at the train, it will run for just a few
minutes and then go down - while I thought that it was fully charged!

A bad charging circuit could also give a variation of this theme. It has
been pointed out several times in this digest and elsewhere on the net
that if the charging plug is damaged, it may blow a fuse on the motherbord
which will stop any further charging, but leave the ability to run off the
mains intact.

Best wishes for your PowerBook 100, the best computer Apple has made!

	- kjell

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:22:40 +0100
From: John Hendrickx <u211310@hnykun11.urc.kun.nl>
Subject: The Spanish Inquisition

Does anyone know where I can get the great Monty Python sound "Nobody
expects the Spanish Inquisition!"? Also, if anyone out there does requests,
how about the opening bars to Trane's Mr P.C. (Paul Chambers!) and Bird's
Scrapple the Apple?
Thanks,

John Hendrickx
Department of Sociology, University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Internet: u211310@hnykun11.urc.kun.nl
  bitnet: u211310@hnykun11

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 07:13:36 -0500
From: "Steve Marsh"  <marsh2@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Turbo-Grafx CD-ROM drive

I was wondering if anyone had info about the SCSI interface being developed
for
the TurboDuo video game - price, access speed of the drive, availability,
etc.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, the TurboDuo video game
system
>From NEC (actually, Turbo Technologies now) has a built-in CD-ROM drive, and
they have announced an upcoming SCSI interface cable for the mac (no further
details, though). The game system is only $299. and comes with 5 games, so its
a
pretty good deal, both as a video game and a CD-ROM drive (if the interface is
reasonably priced). It also plays TurboChip games and audio CD's. Any NEC
insiders out there?

- Steve Marsh  "marsh@anvil.nrl.navy.mil"   ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:06:03 CST
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Tweety Extension Coolness

I FTPed the very nice extension Tweety, that plays bird sounds in the
backgound randomly as you work on your mac. By fortunate coincidence,
a suite of five samples of whale song were uploaded to the digest at
the same time. Well, following the instructions in the Tweety docs, I
used ResEdit to replace the birdsong with whalesong, and now my Mac
lets loose with eerie, haunting sound as I type!

I *highly* recommend both Tweety on its own, and Tweety with the
"Whale-of-A.hqx" sound samples. I don't know ResEdit from adam, but
it wasn't hard to do.

Of course, it eats up about 600k of RAM with the whalesong...

Rev

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 15:53:49 PST
From: kcary@pepvax.pepperdine.edu
Subject: Umatic 3/4" Video Tape and the Mac

One of our profs is anxious to get off a grant proposal before she leaves
on sabbatical. She wants to investigate using professional quality 3/4"
video tape and computer controlled editing with some computer digitizing of
clips. The latter I can handle, and we have a price for the hi-8 version of
the former, but I have no clue on cost, or size for the 3/4" equipment.

We'd need a Portable VideoCam, 2 decks, an interface to control them from
the Mac, and two Monitors. Can anyone help me on sources, prices,
possibility?
Kim Cary, GSEP Systems Support, Pepperdine University
(310) 568-5628, kcary@pepvax.pepperdine.edu, KCARY@PEPVAX,
FAX (310) 568-5755

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:12:16 PDT
From: Rick_Sutcliffe@faith.twu.ca (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: UNIX filer server for Mac/P

	   UNIX filer server for Mac/PC
I am looking for a package that can provide both terminal access to UNIX
bxes on the net (both Appletalk and ethernet, if possible) and also allow
for the mounting of UNIX directories as Mac volumes.  This should be
automatic and background for both PC an Mac users, but allow for direct UNIX
access for those who are capable of using it.  The cost should be Mac-style
and not UNIX style.

The UNIX box is a Sony NEWS 1750 running a MC68030.

I am aware of a variety of products to do one or the other of these tasks,
but not both.  I recently heard of a product called something like "Ice 10"
that supposedly does do both.  Can anyone give me a line on this or a
similar product?
Thanks
Rick Sutcliffe

------------------------------

Date: 11 Dec 1992 08:26:18 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: VX Video (A) + Thanks

     VX Video (A) + Thanks
Rafael Collantes <rafael@iit.upco.es> asks:

>The December issue of MacUser states that the video hardware of the new VX
>is basically the same as Quadra's.
>The APDA compatibility chart of november states
>that the maximun monitor size connectable to the VX is 14" (640x480).
>Which statment is right?
>I am interested in knowing if it is posssible to use a 16" or
>super-vga (800*600) monitor with the built-in video. What about
>bit-depth?

Here's my response:

The maximum resolution that the IIvx can support with the on-board video is
640x480, which means you can use the 14" monitor.  If you wish to use the 16"
monitor with the IIvx, you'll need to add an additional video board, like
Raster-Ops or something similar.

This comes straight from the horse's mouth.  We had an Apple rep doing a
product rollout for the new line here at Cornell, and I specifically asked him
about this.  I even asked him why, since they already have the technology to
produce higher resolutions, why didn't they just incorporate it in?  He told
me, "...because we wanted to get them out the door..." in time for the October
introduction.  But I suspect that the cost issue is also probably involved,
IMHO.

I'm not sure about the bit depth of the built-in video, but I think I remember
the rep saying that if you have 1 MB of VRAM (and this is one of the nice
features of the IIvx --- the dedicated VRAM), you can get millions of colors,
which suggests to me 24-bit (or 32-bit).  Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong
on this.

Which, by the way, is what a few people did on my comment recently about some
of the new (read System 7.1) Macs not coming bundled with 7.1 floppies.  I
guess I must have read an article on this being true with the Performas and
extrapolating that to the rest of the Mac models.  Sorry for this error on my
part, and thanks to all the net gurus out there showing me the error of my
ways!   ;-)


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 07:05:33 -0500
From: "Steve Marsh"  <marsh2@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: What's up at mac.archive.umich

Since the number of signons was (severely) cut back during the day, I haven't
been able to get near the archives at Michigan. Unfortunately, I can only
connect from my comjputer at work, and am getting used to the daytime denial
by
the UMich archives. Query - is there anything recent there that hasn't shown
up
at sumex? And if so, could someone cross-load it here, where the new, bigger
and
beefier drive can certainly store it? Will we ever have free access to Umich?
Do
they need rescuing from the incredible shrinking ray device? Enquiring minds
want to know!

- Steve Marsh  "marsh@anvil.nrl.navy.mil"   ;-)

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:07:39 +0000
From: James Thomson <thomsonj@dcs.gla.ac.uk>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest