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From: chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Recording neophyte needs to choose a 4-track recorded
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:15:19 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Univ. of California, Irvine


<oops, that should be "recorder">

Simply put, I want to buy a four-track tape recorder and I'm looking for
recommendations as to models, features to look/look out for, etc.  The
last time I fooled with one was over eight years ago and consequently I've
not kept up with what the state of the art is (I'm accidentally on purpose
behind the times on music tech anyway)

What I'm looking for is...
Ability to use standard cassettes, but at a higher tape motor speed (ya, this
is pretty much standard now).  No gross recording level loss when overdubbing.
Sturdy construction-- My piano lives 30 miles away and my writing partner lives
450 miles away so it's going to be travelling a lot.  Cost under $1000.

The bottom line is that I'm looking for something relatively foolproof.  I've
been playing low-tech guitar for a long time, so my brain fogs whenever I'm
around gear which has more controls than my computer setup.

Many thanks in advance,

-Chris
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From: lewocz@acsu.buffalo.edu (John S. Lewocz)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Recomendations for Classical Guitars
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:34:38 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

A friend of mine is considering spending up to about $1000 on
a guitar, but everything he's looked at in the local music stores
displeases him.  Does anyone have any recomendations?  He's looking
for a nice, rich sound throughout the entire fretboard, and a 
smaller scale length.

Thanks.

--John 


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From: mongeau@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Mike Mongeau)
Subject: Fender Strat Selector Switch
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:32:54 GMT

I'm having a minor problem with the pickup selector switch on my
Japanese-built 1991 Fender Standard Strat.  If I happen to bump
the switch while playing, one of the pickups will drop out and 
I have to jiggle the switch to get it back.  There is also an
occasional crackling noise when switching among the various
positions. 

My local guitar store said to get some electronic contact
cleaner and spray it around the switch, which I did, but it
really hasn't seemed to help much.    Any suggestions ??

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 "The Blues has been...the blues is...the blues will be, as long as time"
                                                        -Willie Dixon

   Mike Mongeau                           Raytheon Equipment Division
   mongeau@nmc.ed.ray.com                                Marlboro, MA
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From: fweckerl@na.novell.com (Frank Weckerle)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: effects survey
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:44:23 GMT
Reply-To: fweckerl@na.novell.com (Frank Weckerle)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, Ca



Anyone out there use an ART Multiverb Alpha 1 or an Alesis quadraverb
effects processor? 
I played them both the other day and to me it's a toss up. 
The Alesis seemed to have a little better reverb, but the ART had some
better flange and a few other effects. 
Anyone have any pros or cons about the two, I'd appreciate hearing before
I spend the $$.

Thanks in advance.
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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) for 9/1 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:56:49 GMT

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From: mjm@sun.com (Michael Marchi - Santa Clara Systems Eng)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Acoustic Guitar Search - Peavey "Ecoustic"
Date: 4 Sep 1992 16:16:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mjm@sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: knight.west.sun.com

I begun visiting a few shops in my search for an acoustic guitar.
(I currently have a Strat + and Carvin electric guitar...both of
which I am extremely happy with).

So far in my ventures I'm leaning towards a Guild cutaway that
I tried in one of the shops...but I'm going to try everything
I can get my hands on before making my decision. 

Has anyone tried the Peavey "Ecoustic" guitar that they are
advertising in every guitar magazine?  Haven't seen it in
any of the shops I've looked in.  Since it is Peavey's first acoustic
guitar I'm kind of wary but am interested in opinions.

Thanks!

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From: jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:38:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

brownsbe@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (bill brownsberger) writes:

>I've been fooling around with slide guitar lately and have noticed that alot
>of tab for slide uses an open tuning (ex. open E).  I was wondering if there
>are any slide players out there who use the conventional tuning and if they
>have gotten used to it.  I don't want to be in the middle of a gig and have to
>retune the guitar just for one or two songs that I play on slide.  People like
>Duane Allman probably just had another guitar that was already tuned to an open
>E so he could switch with no problem.

I believe that Duane would retune, he just did it very fast... In the piece
on him in the 25'th annv. Guitar Player there is some mention of this. I take
extra guitars with me to the gig if I plan to play slide, as I like a higher
action for slide. Since I've started using open tunings for other (non-slide)
rhythem parts, I can get by with two guitars tuned open, and one standard.

Hipshot now has a bridge that lets you go from standard to open just by pulling
a lever. I tried it at NAMM, and it seemed to work well. I have no clue how much
they want for it, but it might be worth looking into.
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From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Scale Length and Fret layout
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:16:41 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

To calculate scale length:

     1. Measure from the nut to fret 12.
     2. Multiply the measurement by two.
     3. The resultant number is the scale length.

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Archimedes
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: brownsbe@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (bill brownsberger)
Subject: FTP question
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 10:21:59 GMT

Does anybody know if there is a way to get a listing of the ftp.nevada.edu
songlist into a single UNIX file.  I would like to get a listing of all files
(ls *) that are in the /pub/guitar directory.  I don't want the actual 
contents of the files, just their names.

Thanks,
Bill B.
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:01:12 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

While I also used to keep a 2nd guitar tuned open for slide stuff, I played
a lot of slide on standard tuning as well. You increase the possibilities
for playing more than one note at a time by working on playing with the
slide tilted - this is practical mostly above the 12th fret, but for
example,
in addition to being able to play a 4th (i.e. B and E at the 12th fret) or
a major 3rd (say E and G# at the 9th fret), if you tilt the slide so as
to play B (3rd string, 16th fret) while also playing D (2nd string 15th 
fret) you get that nice minor 3rd (in the key of E, 5 & 7) this is one of
the best intervals available from the open tunings but not otherwise
playable in open tuning...it's a bit awkward at first, but it can be
managed.
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From: ebshen@athena.mit.edu (Eric B Shen)
Subject: Re: Using a bow?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:08:12 GMT

In article <9B7cqB1w165w@mantis.co.uk> jonathan@mantis.co.uk (Jonathan Egre') writes:
>motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug28.045100.11948@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, root@tartarus.uwa.edu.a
>> > labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>> > >Jimmy Page used a bow on one of his Les Pauls for the song 'Kashmir'.  Yo
>> > >can see this on the film "the Song Remains the Same".  The was another

"Dazed and Confused" not Kashmir.

>(1) The correct title of the album on which "Still Of The Night" appears
>    seems to be "1987", which appears on the spine and the back of my CD box
>    but not the front cover.
>
>(2) The "Still Of The Night" *video* featured David Coverdale (vocals and
>    bandleader), Adrian Vandenberg (guitar), Vivian Cambell (guitar), 
>    Rudy Sarzo (bass) and John Aldridge (drums).
>
>    If my memory serves me correctly, the "Still Of The Night" *music* 
>    was recorded by David Coverdale, John Scott (guitar), Neil Murray (bass)
>    and someone other than John Aldridge on drums.

Nope. John Sykes did the guitars.  That's probably who you meant anyway.
Sykes went on to form Blue Murder.  Has he done anything else?

I don't think that studio guitar part was played with a bow, but rather
the bow was used as a visual thing just for the video.  The studio part
sounds like a synth to me.  Could be wrong, of course :-)

>    Vandenberg and Cambell were Coverdale's "ideal" guitarists at the time, 
>    but allegedly Cambell had a disruptive attitude, leading to him being 
>    thrown out of the band.  Interestingly, Cambell is now playing with 
>    Def Leppard, who have *comlimented* him on his cooperative behaviour.

Hmm. Campbell didn't play on the recent album, did he?  Campbell joined
for the live act?  That other guy in Def Leppard did all the guitar
parts on the album.

Off the subject, I heard a rumor a long time ago that Adrian Smith (from
Iron Maiden) was going to join Def Leppard.  THIS OF COURSE WAS NOT
TRUE.  But does anyone know what Adrian is doing now?

Eric Shen
ebshen@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: marck@nwu.edu (Jater & Co.)
Subject: This acoustic guitar sucks.
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: NU ACNS
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:42:32 GMT


actually, i don't know if it does, but i BET it does.

it's a Vantage.  it's made in South Korea.  and it sells for around the
mid-$200s.

does anyone know anything about Vantage?  a friend wants to buy one and
wants my advice.  i dunno.  sounds crappy to me.


mlb


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,rec.music.makers
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) for 9/2 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:22:25 GMT

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	I am working on getting adminestrative mail caught up, so if you
havn't recieved a reply, and are expecting one, don't worry, I didn't
forget, and I'm not ignoring you. Thanks for your patience.

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bk233@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jack W. Weinmann)
Subject: Theremin and Voice Effects Board information
Reply-To: bk233@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jack W. Weinmann)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 11:46:57 GMT


There is a good article about the theremin (including an original circuit
diagram) in the July 1991 edition of Popular Electronics magazine on page
66 in a column called "Antique Radio."

There is also and article on a Digital Voice Effects Board in the September
1992 edition of Radio Electronics magazine on page 37.

I have not tried the Voice Effects board and I cannot verify whether it
works or not.  I simply mentioned this for anyone who is interested in
reading about these two effects.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Christian Dylan Losinger)
Subject: Re: Drumstick gutiar (bass)
Reply-To: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:49:01 GMT

In article <17mdljINN730@network.ucsd.edu>, mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.224757.7732@wam.umd.edu> peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent) writes:
>>
>>  Sorry man, but the Guitar up against the mic stand isn't as novel as you 
>>think :)  Hendrix used it in the 60's.  But that doesn't make your ideas any
>>less cool!  
>>  BTW  Danny Gatton plays slide with beer bottles(in fact that's all i've seen
>>him play slide with live, and on his album "Elmira St. Blues" he uses an Alka
>>Selzer bottle).
>

	or, putting drumsticks, wrenches, screwdrivers and such UNDER the
strings can produce an additional, movable bridge. Sonic Youth does this a lot
and because the strings get so tight and short, they get some wonderful chiming
effects. or, try playing above the nut or below the bridge.
	I play above the nut (locking nut. use a pickup that is not attatched 
with springs) with a chorus and the sound gets all crazy, like wind chimes..:)

	-c
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From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Using a bow?
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:02:52 GMT
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <Bto14D.KDA@scd.hp.com>, brett@sr.hp.com (Brett K. Carver) writes:
|>It the eternal quest for new and different sounds...
|>
|>Has anyone played around with using a bow (like that used with a violin)
|>on a guitar?  I realize the traditional position of a guitar might make
|>it a bit awkward, but it could generate some interesting sounds.
|>
|>Don't most stringed instruments use nylon strings?  Would there be an
|>additional problem trying to use a bow on the metal strings of an
|>acoustic or electric guitar?
|>
|>Thoughts or experiences?

Jimmy Page used a bow on one of his Les Pauls for the song 'Kashmir'.  You
can see this on the film "the Song Remains the Same".  The was another
guitarist I saw recently doing this, but sadly I cannot remember who.  
I think it was some Metal(/Glam?) band.

|>
|>							Brett Carver
|>							(707) 577-4344
|>							brett@sr.hp.com
               

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These statements are mine and mine alone, well i guess my wife 
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From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: More theory questions (groan)
Date: 24 Aug 92 23:13:56 GMT
	<1992Aug20.180632.7499@walter.bellcore.com>
	<1992Aug21.145854.25468@scubed.com>
	<1992Aug21.152144.18685@wam.umd.edu>
	<1992Aug24.160041.14148@decvax.dec.com>
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

In article <1992Aug24.160041.14148@decvax.dec.com> ccb@axemax.zk3.dec.com (Charlie Bennett) writes:
>
>Guitar players have 4 fingers that they can apply to the fretboard for
>producing chords. Leaving barre chords aside, this means that you can
>play 4 notes at a time consistently. Why not play only those notes that
>are needed to identify the chord and leave the rest to the bass player?
>
>All that are needed for most 7 chords are the 3rd and the 7th. Play them
>and leave roots and 5th to the bass player. This leaves 2 fingers free.
>With '6' chords you'd of course be playing 3 & 6, instead of 3 & 7. 
>You can "waste" a free finger by playing a root or a 5th, or you can use
>it to dress up the chord with 9ths, 11ths, or 13th.

I agree that too often we visualize the bass as always holding down the
fundemental with some other instrument supplying the harmonic dressing.
However, one reason this is done is to get the proper chord voicing.
For example, since the bass is an octave lower, it may not sound as good
to have the bass player covering the fifth way below your seventh and
third.  You may want that fifth up in the same register (and timbre) as
your seventh.  Second, playing chords or intervals on a bass sounds
quite a bit different that on a guitar (obviously); you may prefer the
sound if the bass player covers single notes only (I know, that can be
boring, but in many contexts, it sounds best.)  On the other hand, I
realize that the bass player doesn't have to play chords to handle
his/her harmonic duties.

David.
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
From: cfthb@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (T. Howard Black)
Subject: Re: What is the 12 bar blues rule?
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:56:27 GMT

sbb1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Shay B. Berthelson) writes:
: What is the rule that when speaking of blues people mention the 
: standard twelve bar.  Please help.  Also any one have any good sounding 
: easy to learn riffs, not neccessarily blues.

    Since most blues are in 4/4 time, a bar is four beats.  Standard blues
progessions are 12 bars long, and usually go:

    I IV I I IV IV I I V IV I V

where each numeral represents one bar, and I, IV and V are relative.  Thus,
in the key of C; I=C, IV=F, and V=G.

    This is the simplest representation I can think of.  Usual
embellishments include the use of sevenths (especially for V), ninths, etc.

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        Department of Chemistry               Eastern Illinois Univ.
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From: root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Subject: Re: Using a bow?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:51:00 GMT

labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:

>In article <Bto14D.KDA@scd.hp.com>, brett@sr.hp.com (Brett K. Carver) writes:
>|>It the eternal quest for new and different sounds...
>|>
>|>Has anyone played around with using a bow (like that used with a violin)
>|>on a guitar?  I realize the traditional position of a guitar might make
>|>it a bit awkward, but it could generate some interesting sounds.
>|>
>|>Don't most stringed instruments use nylon strings?  Would there be an
>|>additional problem trying to use a bow on the metal strings of an
>|>acoustic or electric guitar?
>|>
>|>Thoughts or experiences?

>Jimmy Page used a bow on one of his Les Pauls for the song 'Kashmir'.  You
>can see this on the film "the Song Remains the Same".  The was another
>guitarist I saw recently doing this, but sadly I cannot remember who.  
>I think it was some Metal(/Glam?) band.

>|>
>|>							Brett Carver
>|>							(707) 577-4344
>|>							brett@sr.hp.com
>               

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>Maurice LaBiche (Mo.L.)         |   labiche@bnr.ca

I think the glam band u were referring to might have been Whitesnake...
I recall seeing one of the film clips back abouit 5-6 years ago, and the
lead player was playing with a bow (Vandenberg????) certainly before Vai

Can't quite remember the song, 'bout the time of "Is This Love?", had 
Tawny Kitaen in the vid (sha-wing :-))

Adam
University of Western Australia
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Django
Date: 25 Aug 1992 19:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

Here's a Django story that shines a little light onto this enigmatic player.
Please just enjoy this story; if you *really* want the reference, I can get
it, but I like to keep moving ahead...

Django didn't show up for a recital at Carnegie Hall on one (of many)
occasions.  On his way to the theatre, he ran into a friend he hadn't
seen on a long time, and they ended up going out drinking together.

This was Carnegie Hall, not somebody's keg party!

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and wishing I could be as unassumingly egoistic)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: Scale Length and Fret layout
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:01:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.112013.7029@cl.cam.ac.uk> dahe@cl.cam.ac.uk (David Elworthy) writes:
>   [...]
>The theory would suggest you do it separately for each string and place
>the frets at an angle. But an approximation may be sufficient.

	Such designs exist.  I think a company even sells replacement
necks done this way.  I've seen the occasional photo and write-up
in Guitar Player, although not for over a year or so now as I recall.
I remember one design with slanted frets, and another with fragmented
frets.  Not sure how well one could bend on the latter.


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From: stites@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ross M Stites)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Effects Loop?
Date: 4 Sep 1992 11:05:32 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

exubrst@exu.ericsson.se (Brad Steele) writes:

>I just recently bought a new amp with a couple of jacks labeled
>"effects loop".  What is this for?  What type of effects should
>I use with it?  Are there effects that I should run between the
>guitar and the amp instead?  Also, what are knobs labeled "bottom"
>and "edge" used for?  These may be stupid questions, but my last
>amp had very few features.  "Why did I buy this if I didn't know
>what all the features did?", you might ask.  It was cheap, loud,
>and I like the way it sounds with my guitar.

The "effects loop" runs between the preamp and the power amp of
your amp.  This allows you to increase the power of your signal
before adding the noise that is inherent in all effects.  Basically
it's supposed to reduce the "stand-by noise" of your system.

Try running your effects both ways.  You may not even notice a difference.

Ross Stites
(stites@matt.ksu.ksu.edu)
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