From: jon.taylor@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (JON M. TAYLOR)
Subject: Re: Weak-mindedness & piracy & drugs (oh boy) (LONG)
Organization: The University of Utah
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:52:19 GMT

In article <92325.202908CMS129@psuvm.psu.edu> Chris "Slothman" Stoy <CMS129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:29:08 EST
>From: Chris "Slothman" Stoy <CMS129@psuvm.psu.edu>
>Subject: Re: Weak-mindedness & piracy & drugs (oh boy) (LONG)
><Oh good, now we get to argue about drugs. Boy the Amiga is versitile!>
>
>>> No, they're not good ideas, you bloody conformist.  They're society's
>>> ideas and what they want you to do/believe.  Sheesh, get a mind of your
>>> own.  Why is "say no to drugs" a good idea?  Sure, I agree piracy is
>>> wrong, but when it comes to drugs, the govt. has no right to tell us
>>> what we put in our bodies.  So you must be one of those fools who thinks
>>
>Well, you're right. If you want to kill yourself by using drugs, go right
>ahead. the government can't *stop* you from doing it.  I guess you don't see
>anything wrong in drug dealers selling crack to gradeschoolers either. Hell,

	Of course I do.  Just because I think that responsible ADULTS should 
be able to ingest whatever they want does not imply that I think that 
children should be.  

>the kids obviuously want the stuff, why should the government prevent them
>from getting it?  Jeese! EVERYONE knows that drugs aren't *bad* for you or
>anything.  Plus, it's a fact that most drug users are the nicest,
friendliest
>people you would ever want to meet.  We all know that someone who uses 
drugs
>only hurts themselves and never anyone else.

	Typical bullshit stereotyping drivel.  I personally know several 
drug dealers, and they are nice people.  Street crack dealers may be 
different, but all drugs are NOT crack.  Far from it.

>>If you believed that shit then put down the crack pipe long 
enough to open>your eyes.  YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS WORLD!!!!  
The mere fact that
>you live in a society means that you give up certain personal rights 
for the
>benifit of society.  If you don't like this, go live in the woods 
and quit
>complaining!   The government is there for SOCIETY, not 
individuals.  By>using drugs you threaten other peoples rights and lives.  "
oh, well, smoking>a couple joints isn't going to hurt anyone".  Tell that to 
the family of six>who you just took out with your car because you wern't 
able to drive. (This>goes for all those out there who had "one for the road" 
and drove home drunk.>I have no simpathy for drunk drivers.)>>We are all 
individuals who live in a scoiety.  In order to live in that society>we must 
follow the laws that society has put down for us.  If we don't want to>live 
in that society, then we don't have to follow the laws.  Of course, you>
mmust be willing to accept the fact that society is still there and may not 
be>too happy with what you decided to do.  The law is for the good of 
society,>not the good of the individual.  If the society were to condone 
drug use, then>the society would collapse. It's that simple.>>>Oh ya, 
pirating is bad. Don't do it.>

	Ah, I see.  You are a hyper-statist.  Well, let me tell you 
something.  Having the government regulate things because they MIGHT cause 
harm to others is a VERY BAD THING(TM).  Damn near EVERYTHING that ANYONE 
does MIGHT cause someone some harm.  The only sensible way to deal with this 
is to do nothing UNTIL the harm is caused.
	As for society collapsing if drugs were legalized, GET FUCKING 
REAL.  It's a problem, but nothing like unemployment, or the deficit, or 
the recession.  The government has been hyping it so hard as the greatest 
evil since communism precisely to distract people from the above-mentioned 
problems, as well as others.  Go over to alt.drugs, ask some questions, and 
get some answers (and a clue).


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>Chris "Slothman" Stoy |  DISCLAIMER: The views expressed within are not
>cms129 at psuvm       |  mine but those of my pet hamster Gizmo. HE'S
>cms129@psuvm.psu.edu  |  responsible for this! Blame him!        ^^^^
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			Ah, I see.  Gizmo, you need to wake up and 
stop swallowing all the bullshit the govt. is shoveling out about drugs 
in this country (or anywhere in the world, really).	

	-Jon