HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bartlone@zeke.gemedical (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Subject: Scary experiences (was: My Lucid Experiences)
Reply-To: bartlone@zeke.gemedical
Organization: GE Medical Systems
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:57:49 GMT

About 8 years ago I had one of the most terrifying experiences of my life. I was
taking a short afternoon nap (I was working evenings, so this was my 'normal'
mode of sleep.). I was partially awakened by the T.V. one of the most annoying
shows (won't tell you what it was cuz I don't want to offend anyone) came on, and
I tried to get up to turn the T.V. off..I couldn't..I tried to call my wife who
was around the corner in the kitchen (I could hear her), and I couldn't, I tried
to move just enough to roll myself off the couch, reasoning that I was stuck
half way between being asleep, and awake. I couldn't. By this time I was really
scared, and really uncomfortable..I would have like to roll over, but I couldn't.
I just layed there..finally after what seemed like hours, my wife came in, and
shook me to wake me up for work...I could open my eyes, but still couldn't move,
or speak!! She thought I was sleeping with my eyes open (which I have done for
years, so she got an ice cube, and let it drip on my face...this did finally
bring me out of it...
I hope I never get `stuck` like that again!!

---
bartlone@last.med.ge.com | 'Think tree...
In your mind, make picture..now open eyes..
make like picture...' paraphrased from
                    'The Karate Kid'


Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: dmorton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (daniel dean morton)
Subject: side-effect dreams
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:31:01 GMT


A few years ago I had the pleasure of visting my sister in Zaire while
she was a volunteer in the Peace Corp. Before, during, and after the
trip I was made to take, beside a number of other things, an
anti-malaria medication. Now these relatively harmless looking pills have one
strange side-effect- *very* vivid dreams. My sister has told me that
this side-effect made her weekly dose seem like some mystical shaman
ceremony. She would take her pill, go to sleep, and then have some of
the most
unbelivably intense dreams/visions. You can imagine the strange turn
these dreams must take for a young person going though some major
culture shock in such an other-worldly place like the Congo.
  I myself have always been a very "avid" dreamer. This, compounded with
my overactive imagination, the strange surroundings, and the drug, led
to some very interesting dreams indeed. They were by far the most
interesting/lovely/terrifying dreams I have ever had, lucid or not. When
I look back on my trip the whole thing seems like an excerpt out of the
Joseph Conrad book Heart of Darkness. It was adventure while I was awake
exploring the beautiful scenery, and even more so when I was asleep.
  Has anyone elso had experiences where medication has influenced
their dreams? If so, I would like to hear of them. Dream the
impossible...


-- 
"Awright, let's forget the bullshit and get on with the so-called art"
                      --  Charles Bukowski  --  
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: bee@ms.uky.edu (Elizabeth A. Gilliam)
Subject: Re: side-effect dreams
    <1992Nov22.032509.8299@tcsi.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:50:59 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.) writes:

>In article <By3DFq.x8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dmorton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (daniel dean morton) writes:
>>
>>unbelivably intense dreams/visions...
>> [....]
>>  Has anyone elso had experiences where medication has influenced
>>their dreams? If so, I would like to hear of them. Dream the
>>impossible...

>Well, this is impossibly mundane after your story, but when I was growing
>up, I got headaches a lot.  When I took aspirin around bedtime, I noticed
>that my dreams were more vivid.  I don't notice this effect now, but I
>take smaller doses now, I'm larger, and my dreams are getting less vivid
>with age anyway, I suppose.

I just posted about some migraine medication I am on... this particular
drug I take has, I believe, 50 mg butabitol and 400 mg aspirin.  So
maybe it's just the aspirin that causes vivid dreams?
-- 
elizabeth a. gilliam: bee@ms.uky.edu
If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
"Any problem can be fixed if you throw beer at it."  -Scott
From: ACADLAB2@LMUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Weird Dream
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:16:25 GMT
Organization: LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIV - CENTER FOR ACADEMIC COMPUTING

This is my first time posting anything so please bear with me.

I had this dream a few years ago. I was at my house sitting in the den watching
tv, it was dark outside and I looked out the window.  I saw a poolman goingto
a house at the corner of my street and I thought to myself, "somebody's gonna
kill him." I then proceeded to walk around my house and found piles of dead
bodies everywhere.They were piled up against the walls or outside the windows
looking in.  They all had bullet holes in them.  Then I heard someone walking
up my front porch.  It was Dan Fielding from Night Court and I knew he had
come to kill me.  Dan hada key to my front door and everytime he would unlock
it I would lock it back.  I moved away from the door and began to think, "I
wish I would wake up, I wish I would wake up."  Then I thought, "Maybe if I
stand in front of the doorDan will pull out a gun, the bullets would fly
through the door, hit me and I'll wake up." I moved back to the door and what I
thought would happen happened and I woke up.

I would appreciate any comments. Please post or e-mail.

Thanks,
                                    Kris
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III)
Subject: Re: Flying into space (I hate you Scott!)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:44:13 GMT

In article <gj156879.722361779@cunews> gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:
>Grrr...
> 
>I had the great idea of flying into outerspace when in high school.  I
>thought it'd be damn impressive to see what happens.  So I flew up as
>high as I could, but I reached a point where I couldn't fly any
>further, and I started to go down and landed in a dark and gloomy
>graveyard.  Two zombies started crawling towards me, digging their way
>out of their graves, growling and drooling.
> 
>I haven't tried to fly into outerspace since.  Can't imagine what my
>brain has against the idea!
> 
>                              Pity me Scott...
>                                        Nik
>


Sounds like your control started to go during landing.  It's important to
keep an eye on things through the whole experience if you want to keep
these kinds of things from happening.
Now, regarding zombies and like critters -
	How much energy do you think your dreamself expended to fly up
that high?  What would happen to a critter if all that energy were to be
directed at them?  One of the best ways to dispose of something unpleasant
in a dream is to simply blow it away.  You'd be surprised how little
effort it actually takes.
All the foregoing is, of course, my opinion based on personal experience.
Give it another shot, Nik.  If you get into trouble, just look for a
little help.   :)


Hope this gets out ok.  Our server has been a bit pukey lately.

-- 
      ---=>   Charles Stewart (aka Scott) : drakonar@cs.montana.edu   <=---
	          "Oh oh.  Looks like we need another Timmie!"
			   For Dinosaurs fans only.
		
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: angelai@wam.umd.edu (Angela I.)
Subject: Experiment '92:  Tips on Lucid Dreaming
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:19:50 GMT

This is primarily intended to help anyone who wants to participate
in the Dream Experiment but is not adept at lucid dreaming:

There are several good ways to increase your chances of having
a lucid dream.  Here are a few:

Remind yourself throughout the day to do "reality checks" --
ask yourself "Am I dreaming right now?"  It's helpful to leave
notes for yourself around the places you'll be during the day
(on your computer terminal, on the refrigerator, in a notebook, etc.)
and/or set your watch to "beep" periodically (hourly), and use that
as a reminder...  

Read books on lucid dreaming, talk about it with friends, post to the
Net, anything that will get your mind on it throughout the day will
be likely to keep it in your mind after you've gone to sleep.

Keep a dream journal -- if you're in the habit of remembering your dreams,
you are more likely to remember a lucid dream.  And also, again,
it gets your conscious mind thinking about dreaming a lot...  Read
through the dream journal once in awhile for the same reasons.  It's
also really weird to look at things written in your handwriting, but
you don't remember writing them (because you'd just woken up), and you
don't at first remember having the dream.  :) 

Tell yourself, just before bed, that you will have a lucid dream
tonight, and that you will remember it.

Try to remain conscious as long as possible before falling asleep.
Try to watch with a sort of detached awareness as sleep sets in and
dream images begin to form...

There are other things you can do, such as setting an alarm to go off
90 min. before you're supposed to wake up, get up with that alarm &
then go back to sleep, trying to "fall" back into your last dream, etc...
I think the Lucid Dreaming FAQ that is posted here periodically 
probably can give more information if you want/need anything beyond
the above ideas...

Good luck, and happy lucid dreaming! :)
Angela

Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.out-of-body
From: morale@jec303.its.rpi.edu (Enrique Morales)
Subject: Re: Experiences
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:07:32 GMT

002369c@ace.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE) writes:

>This morning, I was lying in bed, face down. I woke up , disturbed from a 
>noise, but I wanted to get back to a dream that I was having. So I relaxed 
>myself totally, and felt myself drifting off to sleep. As this was 
>happenning, I seen patterns as if I was travelling backwards in a tunnel or 
>space and I heard a ringing in my ears turn into a funnel like whirring.
>I was aware of all of this happen. I literally saw my dream form and felt 
>myself start to go asleep, yet I was fully aware. I found myself looking 
>behind my shoulder and saw the following: The balkets were spead out, and 
>they were about one or two feet above the bed. I saw an image of myself 
>floating up there but that's all it was doing. My theory is that since I 
>knew that I fell asleep(I've never known was it was truely like before, 
>because I could never remember falling asleep before this) and My conscionse 
>self was still pesent, I saw my subconscionce self that I would normally be.
>Confused yet?
>Anyway, I could still hear my parents downstairs, and I couldn't move my 
>legs or arms or body in the "dream", and I could also hear the whiring 
>noise. 
>Those at alt.out-of-body, don't flame me for posting this there, but you 
>may flame away for posting what I call an "inverse oobe". Go figure.
> 

No flames are justified here. What it seems you had was not a case OOBE
(directly), but a case of bilocation. It has been know to happen. 
This is when a person is at two places at the same time. I read a book
about OOBEs that a case like this in it. I will try to dig it up and
post it.

Enrique

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: clint@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Jennifer Dole)
Subject: Re: LUCID DREAMS
Organization: Stanford Univ.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:39:07 GMT

In article <kwi.34@postman.hsn.no> kwi@postman.hsn.no
(KLAUS WILLIAM WIK) writes:

>	Lucid dreams?
>Is that when you dream but are aware that you are sleeping and dreaming?

Yes, you've got it right.
From: ak044@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeremy Borger)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: alt.dreams in my head
Date: 23 Nov 1992 23:50:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ak044@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeremy Borger)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.) says:

>In article <1992Nov16.161959.1522@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu> teschultz@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:

>>I guess I could forget being lucid just like a dream, but I find that 
>>very unlikely.  After all, I did remember the dream itself. Also, in the 
>>past, the moment I realize I am dreaming I unfortunatly wake up. (It would
>>really suck if I've had many full length lucid dreams and not remembered
>>them!)
>
>I have had lucid dreams that I just barely remembered, suggesting to me
>that I have had other lucid dreams that I never remembered.  Sometimes I
>have remembered a dream, recalling only much later that I was lucid during
>part of it.  Maybe these were just dreams where I only dreamed I was lucid,
>as opposed to real lucid dreams, but I have to say that the distinction
>eludes me.

I would suggest making sure that you don't "drift" into another dream.
You may either fall into another dream or for some reason "loose your lucidity"
 or whatever. But, if you wake yourself up during the lucid dream you should
remember the dream very vividly.
-- 
ak044@cleveland.freenet.edu - Jeremy Borger - AKA: DeF
-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-
Why doesn't DOS ever say 'EXCELLENT command or filename'?
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan)
Subject: Nazis International
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:33:22 GMT

Nazis International is an electronic digest newsletter for
and about Nazis (physically and psychologically strong,
assertive Aryans who are not afraid to break free from
traditional ideas about racial roles, fascism and the
Aryan physique) and their friends and lovers.  Nazis
International is dedicated to the image of the Aryan hero in
fiction and in fact, as it is expressed in art and
literature, in the physiques and feats of Nazi soldiers,
in sexual assaults and practices, and provides information,
discussion and a supportive environment for these values and
issues.  Racial role traditionalists and others who are
opposed to Nazi ideals should not subscribe.

 *********************************************************
 *  Nazis International:   bkeating@somewhere.in.germany *
 *  Herr Keating, editor                                 *
 *********************************************************
   "A Young Jew is Good to Kill"  -- Herr Fishswizzle 


-----

Sorry,  had to do it after seeing that Amazon shit thing.

-brett

Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Scriba Communis Responsi
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:53:52 GMT

Hiya!

I'm the editor of a disk-magazine on the Atari ST, and I have
decided to let it go on-line in ASCII format. Would this be the right place to
post it?

/Gard
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Date: 17 Nov 1992 08:32:34 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov17.073939.21827@muddcs.claremont.edu> bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool Without A Plan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.054410.24701@news.acns.nwu.edu> hrow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Heath Row) writes:
>>OK. A couple of things. Working as a journalist, I wrote an article for
>>tomorrow's paper about the distribution of some revionist anti-semitic
>>literature to the German and history departments at a local college.
>
>Seems irrelevent to me,  but go ahead and tout it if you want.

Agreed, irrelevant.

>The point wasn't to make you laugh anyways.  It was to make you think.
>Can't you see the similarities?  Sure,  Amazons don't go around killing
>men or anything,  but the basic premise behind BOTH general ideals is
>almost identical.  You may not see it,  but I do.  I suppose it may be
>just how you look at it,  or if you even bother to in the first place.

Except that you totally ignore the power hierarchy.  The two are totally
different in practice, regardless of their theoretical similarity.  One
group supports oppression, the other supports self-determination of an
already oppressed group.  You may not see it, but I do.

Nothing is just how you look at it unless you are implying that there is
no such thing as the truth, in which case I am certainly wasting my time.

>It would have been pretty harmless to spoof it with "Hippies International"
>or "Adolescents International",  but there would have been absolutely
>no point.  

What the hell was the point of what you did spoof?

>It bothers you?  WELL THAT'S GOOD!  I think Noam Chomsky said something
>to the effect of 'you only believe in freedom of speech to the extent
>that you allow freedom of speech that offends you.'

This is pretty accurate.  Of course you have to examine the power hierarchy
to understand what Chomsky is pointing out.  Try it sometime.

Then you might understand why Chomsky is an anarcho-socialist and not
a libertarian.

>You want sick?  I'll give you SICK.  And plenty of it.  Here,
>have a riddle:
>
>Q:  What do you get when you stick a knife in a baby?
>A:  An erection.

Maybe you, not me thanks.


Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
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  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: JGUSCOTT@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Technophilia
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:15:16 GMT

I am writing a book called Technophilia, which is a sourcebook/guide
covering the following topics-
 
* Affordable Virtual Reality
* Nootropics
* The Computer Underground
* Industrial and Cyberculture
* AI/Robots/A-life
* Brain Machines
 
If you have a zine, group, BBS, etc, and would like to be included in
the book, please e-mail me at the below address.
If you are interested in the above, feel free to send me comments,
suggestions, or ideas (ie, what you would LIKE to see but haven't in
other books).
Basically, I am trying to make this book as PRACTICAL as possible to
the average person.  Street-tech and homebrew suggestions/contributions
are especially encouraged.
I've been working on this book for about a year now and hope to have it
off to the publisher's by January.
Thanks for everyone's help!
 
John Guscott
JGUSCOTT@KENTVM.KENT.EDU
 
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Keywords: nazis, racism, anti-semitism, pez
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:52:47 GMT

In article <BxvByt.MCo@nic.umass.edu> quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>tried posting a very authentic posting to several "sf" boards to try
>to locate a story I read a long time ago (and may want to teach in a
>college class), and got a snotty rejection letter saying that my
>inquiry was not a "review" and so could not be posted.  This from

Let me guess -- you cross-posted a request, albeit a perfectly
reasonable request, to rec.arts.sf.reviews?  And you wonder why
people moderate newsgroups...

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu


Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Subject: Re: Graphics Workshop is for DOS?
Keywords: graphics, workshop, DOS, legacy, zine
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:55:05 GMT

In article <1dsr36INNrl2@uwm.edu> aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.) writes:
>
>quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>:  
>: Graphics Workshop, by Alchemy Mindworks, is a dynamite shareware 
>: graphics file viewing/conversion/modification program for about $40. 
>: It'll basically convert anything to anything else in terms of graphic 
>: formats (including converting text files to graphics screens).  One 
>[text deleted]
>
>I just did an archie search for this application.  The only thing I was able
>to find was something called Graphics Workshop for the NeXT platform.  Are
>you sure this app is available for DOS platforms?  If not, this really won't
>apply to the e-'zine in question 'cause it's directed towards those with DOS
>machines.  No, I'm not a DOS fan, but I just thought I'd try to help keep
>things clear.

It's a DOS program.  There's also an Amiga graphics program by the same
name.  Seems to be a popular name :)


-- 
Emru Townsend     BIX: switch     emru@cam.org     Fido: 1:167/133
When you aren't looking at it, this .sig is in Spanish.
From: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: FUCKTOOTH
Date: 21 Nov 1992 04:38:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


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50 cents +2 stamps, back issues avaible for a dollar, carried bye People
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next one will be out at the end of december. 
-- 
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"There is something in music which is more than melody
 and more than harmony: music."
				Guisseppe Verdi
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan)
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Keywords: nazis, racism, anti-semitism, pez
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:39:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.054410.24701@news.acns.nwu.edu> hrow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Heath Row) writes:
>OK. A couple of things. Working as a journalist, I wrote an article for
>tomorrow's paper about the distribution of some revionist anti-semitic
>literature to the German and history departments at a local college.

Seems irrelevent to me,  but go ahead and tout it if you want.

> After
>talking to a couple revisionists, I did not find this posting at all funny.

Had to talk to a couple of revisionists first,  eh?  If you have to consult
with people before you find humor in something,  you must not have much
of a sense of humor.

>I did not find it funny. At all.

The point wasn't to make you laugh anyways.  It was to make you think.
Can't you see the similarities?  Sure,  Amazons don't go around killing
men or anything,  but the basic premise behind BOTH general ideals is
almost identical.  You may not see it,  but I do.  I suppose it may be
just how you look at it,  or if you even bother to in the first place.

It would have been pretty harmless to spoof it with "Hippies International"
or "Adolescents International",  but there would have been absolutely
no point.  

>What are some of the thoughts floating around out there about political
>correctness and the small press? while I would and do not advocate
>screening such postings as the nazi post, I'm sure there are zines like
>that out there. Sick. IMO, at least...

So you're saying you would advocate screening a post such as mine (?).
I'm assuming that's what you said.  Well,  WHY?  It's offensive?
It bothers you?  WELL THAT'S GOOD!  I think Noam Chomsky said something
to the effect of 'you only believe in freedom of speech to the extent
that you allow freedom of speech that offends you.'

You want sick?  I'll give you SICK.  And plenty of it.  Here,
have a riddle:

Q:  What do you get when you stick a knife in a baby?
A:  An erection.

-brett
Newsgroups: alt.zines