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From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: ties?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:25:36 GMT

fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:

>Question:  If two corps tie for 1st place in Finals, do they have a
>"march-off" or are they co-champions?  At some point in history, ties
>resulted in a "march-off" (does anyone have details?).  What is DCI's policy?

I believe that DCI would crown co-champions (like WGI).  (At least the
last time I looked at the rules.)

All I can add is that Madison and Phantom performed a "march off" in
1980 or 1981 at the DCM championship finals.

IMHO, I wouldn't mind this type of tie resolution being used at the
bigger contests.

Everybody gets to see the best corps again, and we get a definite
winner.

Later,
Bob

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From: dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn)
Subject: Re: Dates for 1993 Regionals
Keywords: questions, geeky, composer
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 00:42:04 GMT

In article <1eqn1aINNo14@early-bird.think.com> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>
>From December DCW:
>
>July 17		DCM Championships - DeKalb
>		DCE Championships - Boston
>July 24		DCI North - Buffalo
>		DCI South - Nashville
>July 31		DCI Preview of Champions - Ypsilanti
>August 7	DCI East - Allentown
>		Drums along the Rockies - Denver
>August 14	DCI Mid-America - Bloomington
>August 16-21	DCI Championships - Jackson
>September 5-6	DCA Championships - Scranton, PA
>

(I feel like I've been inundated with posts from the Fath-ster!)

Drums Along the Rockies seems awfully late.  Are the Western corps
doing just a short national tour, or will other corps be floating
back to Denver (which would be great)?  I suspect no one knows these
answers except DCI this early in the season, but one figures there
must be a reason for this.

-- Donald
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: jwise@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Wise)
Subject: rumors, rumors, truth?
Summary: What's up with drum corps
Organization: The Ohio State University
  Well, I'm told from a very very high placed source that Star's whole show 
     Unrelated, I'm also told that DCM will not have an all-star trip this 
     My alma mater, if you will, Bluecoats are playing jazz "in a big way" this
     I've been told by a prospective Blue Knight instructor that they are 
     I heard and am curious if anyone knows for sure, that Holsinger liked 
     Oh yeah, an acquaintance from Star told me that they are not planning on 
     Lastly, I'm also curious to know if anyone else has heard anything about 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:37:12 GMT

--Jeff
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  1993 POC in Ypsilanti
Date: 21 Nov 1992 17:13:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Subject: 1993 POC in Yplisanti?
In article <92317.113136MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>, MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET
(Mike Hughes) wrote (Re: 1993 POC in Ypsilanti):
 
|>Is it true, folks?  I heard that the 1993 Preview of Champions is in
|>Yplisanti, MI.  Any comments on the stadium/facilities/area?
 
Yes, it's true.  Here is the relevant excerpt from a posting by Phil
Earhardt (forgive me any misspellings--pae@blackcat.stortek.com in
any case):
 
|>The 1993 DCI Preview of Champions will be held July 30-31 in Ypsilanti, MI.
|>This is the place where DCI North was held for several yeras; Tami reports
|>that there have been extensive stadium renovations done recently.
 
(My editor won't get rid of the following--sigh).
report ticket orders to as many people as possible in real time), so there may
 
I guess I'm the closest alt.drumcorps reader to the stadium now
(faceman@emunix.emu.edu reads his mail at Eastern Michigan Univ.,
but I think he actually works in Detroit), so I am responding to this.
 
I called the Ypsi Area Visitors and Convention Bureau and also the
EMU Athletic Information office last week.  Rynearson Stadium has
about 30,000 seats, but I don't know how many are on concert side.
My guess is 15,000-20,000.  I don't know if the backside has the
metal bleachers anymore.
 
The Ann Arbor-Ypsi area is overbuilt with hotels.  The latest
Auto Club guide lists 2600 units in Ann Arbor and 243 units
in Ypsi.  I know of at least one acceptable hotel in Ann Arbor that
isn't in the AAA Guide which has ca. 50 units, so that makes for
2900 hotels in the immediate area.  The Detroit Metro Airport (and
all the hotels that go along with it) are only 20 minutes east
of Ypsi in Romulus and there are several good hotels (a Hyatt among
them) in Dearborn, 10 minutes past the airport.  Hotel rooms will
not be a problem!
 
As for things to do and see, Ann Arbor is a great place to live,
but you may not want to visit here :-).  The U of M has a decent
Art Museum and a good Natural History Museum (I work there) but I
have a hard time coming up with things for tourists to do here.
If you come in a week earlier, you can visit the Ann Arbor Art 
Fair, which is worth seeing.  There are lots of good restaurants
in town.   Ask me about what kind of food you want and I'll recommend
a restaurant for you (except Mexican--there are 6 Mexican places in
town and they all suck :-P !).  Best bet is to go to Dearborn and
visit Greenfield Village and Henry Ford Museum.  Lots of historical
buildings have been moved to Greenfield Village (Ford's first
workshop, Noah Webster's house, George Washington Carver's house,
and Edison's and the Wright Brother's workshops, among others).
Henry Ford Museum boasts that they have every invention since the
wheel and they damned near do!  As for Ypsi itself, well the best
sight in town is a huge phallic water tower.  Nothing else to see.
 
If you have any more specific questions, just ask!
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: drapeau@oglala.Stanford.EDU (George Drapeau)
Subject: Re: Who REALLY won in 1988 - 1992?
Organization: Libraries and Information Resources, Stanford University
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:39:40

In article <92323.114926MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET> MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:

   Discussion of the 1988 DCI Championships and Madison's victory have been
   discussed recently in the group.  Here's who the real winners were for the
   past few years.  These are IMHOs, of course, but I can see the flames coming
   :).

    1987 SCV (even though I loved the Garfield production)
    1988 SCV (EASILY!!!!)
    1989 Phantom Regiment (SCV was too dirty)
    1990 Cadets (Star was great but still had some dirt)
    1991 Star
    1992 Star

   Mike Hughes

Okay, I'll play the game (this oughta be both fun and painful):

1987 SCV (the most beautiful show in the history of DCI in my opinion,
	  if for no other reason than the opener).  The Cadets' show
	  was pretty damned incredible, but I have to go with my
	  personal favorite on this one.
1988 BD  (I don't really care about this year, though)
1989 SCV (the correct corps won; I've talked about this over and over
	  so I won't endlessly repeat myself here)
1990 no opinion, but I can't believe the Cadets won with a "Best of
     the Cadets" show.  The idea of the (modern) Cadets doing a "Best
     of" show seems antithetical to the spirit of the corps to me.  I
     lost a lot of respect for the corps because of this show.  I'll
     get over it, I'm sure.
1991 Cavvies?  Star?  Star's show bored me to death, but technically
     it was pretty amazing.  On the other hand, I only saw it on the
     broadcast.  It's hard to get excited about a corps whose idea of
     dynamics never rises about mezzopiano.  I mean,
     Higher-Faster-Louder isn't everything, but neither is
     Faster-Faster-Faster-At-The-Expense-Of-Any-Reasonable-Volume-Of-Sound.
1992 Cavaliers.  My favorite shows were Cavvies, BD,
     Madison, and the Cadets.  Star, in my mind, had no real shot
     (nice show, though).

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: jwise@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Wise)
Subject: help me out
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:38:55 GMT

     My brother tells me thru a fellow teacher, who is an avid booster of SCV 
(catch all that?) that during finals week, SCV's truck was filled and ready to 
go with the most prop oriented, gimmicky show you could imagine, and that the 
corps had even practiced alternate parts of the show, including uniform changes
I believe.
     Help me out here, does anyone know anything about this?!? Thanks...

     Oh, if you care to know, Canton BLuecoats hold their first camp the 
Saturday after Thanksgiving in Canton (of course), starting around noon.  Sadly
I don't have the addresses and such with me here, but if anyone is interested, 
send me an email at jwise@magnusug.ohio-state.edu and I'll be happy to give you
the numbers and such.  Camps are $20 this year, fees stay around $250.

later...

--Jeff
From: bthomas@nim.gac.edu (Barbara L Thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Scouts 93
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:02:54 GMT

> 
> I think you're confusing musical creativity with playing different  
songs.
> Would you contend that classical musicians all necessarily have no
> musical creativity because they play pieces that have been played  
before?
[excellent posting deleted to save space]

I can't say how much I agree.  You hit the nail right on the head and I  
can't wait to see Madison's show this next summer.

--
Barbara L. Thomas
"The World may never know."
bthomas@nic.gac.edu
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From: owens@cyclops.cambridge.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re:  Is there a "Storm" brewing?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:43:03 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In article <92309.131617ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Elizabeth R. Bain
<ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote (Re: Is "Storm" still brewing?): 
 
|>A few years ago, i was helping to host the state marching band competition in
|>Michigan.  I remember that there were people there who were recruiting (or
|>whatever) from various corps, and there were flyers hanging for a new corps
|>that was planning to form either last year or the year before.  The flyers
|>said soemthing like "There's a STORM brewing in south eastern Michigan".
|>Does anyone know what happened with that corps?  Did it ever form?  If so,
|>how is it doing?
 

From Oct 31 to Nov 7 I was driving from Boston to Petaluma California
with my brother.  The first night we made it to Erie PA.  We randomly
headed out into downtown Erie in search of a place to play pool and
accidentally bumped into the LMBA (LakeShore Marching Band Assoc) 
Championships.  The Storm Drum and Bugle corps from Erie PA and
Dutch Boy both had recruiting booths set up.  I talked a little
to the guys from Storm (the guys at the Dutch Boy booth seemed VERY
annoying).  93 was to be the first year out and they were very excited.

After hearing (on alt.drumcorps) about Central High, McDowell, and
General McLane, I was pretty anxious to see them.  (the only reason 
we put up with the freezing cold... we were dressed for a pool hall, 
not a band show.)

I was a little underwhelmed.  McDowell had a show that was pretty well
designed (Robin Hood) and had some nice visual moments,  but I didn't 
get much else from any of the bands.  Does anyone who has seen them 
before know if this was an off year for Central?  Last year they were 
BOA Grand National Champions class "A" according to the program book.

I'm pretty unfarmiliar with BOA... how are the classes set up?

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From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Madison 93 show
Date: 22 Nov 1992 17:39:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In message 92321.134126HUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET, Mike Hughes wrote:
 
>>    1987 - (I forgot this one...sorry)
 
The show was An American in Paris.  It looked like a fun show to watch and
march from the highlights.  The corps formed a taxi and rolled it across the
field then made the Eiffel Tower.  Perhaps they were imitating Star, who
(at the time) were doing the best halftime shows on any field anywhere :-) !
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Subject: Re: Madison Music
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:23:03 GMT

In article 1992Nov22.034042.2055@hubcap.clemson.edu, rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu wrote:
> 
>BTW, I have it on a very good source that the top-12 did indeed know the
>scores going into the finals performance.

You bet! Placements started circulating around the stands somewhere around
the time that the top-6 corps started performing.

Dropping this scoring system was one of the good things that DCI did. It was
a mark of integrity to realize that there was no way the organization could
keep semi scores a secret...

--phil
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Subject: BD 93 music
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:40:53 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
> Can anyone tell me what BD is playing next year.  A friend of mine wants to
> know.  I will start the guessing by saying it will be something jazzy in
> flavor.

I think the rumor on Prodigy is that they are playing Don Ellis music.

Scott
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Madison 93 show
From: fath1@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:06:07 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Nov17.154618.3599@medtron.medtronic.com> ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas) writes:
>------------------------------- 
>
>I believe that the Louie Bellson album containing "Numero Uno"
>is titled "Explosion".  The title song was used by the Crossmen
>in '81.  During this piece, the sopranos had a front and center 
>feature that was quite memorable (to me anyway).  It was a 16th
>note lick, several bars long, but what was neat was that each
>person fingered the guy's horn next to him!  Has any other corps
>tried this?  It always got a great response!
>
The album you are referring to is called "Dynamite!" by Louie Bellson and
it does include the song "Explosion" which was played by Crossmen in
1981.  I have that cassette but unfortunately it does not also contain
"Numero Uno."  In fact, "Numero Uno" is no where to be found in the
PhonoLog or in the Spectra Jazz titles catalog.  Does anyone have a
copy of "Numero Uno" 
or any of the other pieces that the Scouts are performing?
"Strawberry Soup" and "Remembrance"

If so, please let me know.  I'm starting already to collect the
original music that drumcorps will be performing for 1993.


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From: david@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David Desroches)
Subject: Speaking of the Crusaders...
Followup-To: N/A
Summary: Looking for members of the Crusaders
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:33:13 GMT

	I'm looking to get in touch with a few current members of the Boston
Crusaders, as I'm thinking about joining, and I'd like to gain some first-hand info about the corps. I'm also interested to see how many of them are on the
net, but that's another story.  Anyways, if you march in the Crusaders, and 
you have a  little free time, please drop me some e-mail - do not post, as it
would kind of be a waste of bandwith.  Thanks in advance,
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From: ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas)
Subject: Madison 93 show
Organization: Medtronic, Inc., Minneapolis, MN
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:35:14 GMT

---------------------

Here's my biased opinion.  I played Numero Uno in '81.
Hey, this is a great chart!  It was originally recorded by
Louie Bellson and his big band (don't remember the name of the
album, but I can look it up if anyone cares...)

Our verison is featured in Madison's 50th anniversary recording that 
came out either in '87 or '88.  The opening segment (before the
tempo picks up) was written by our horn instructor at the time,
Chris Metzger (he was the great soloist in 70's - MacArthur Park, 
Rhaphsody in Blue, Way We Were, Somewhere,... I saw him judging
last year).

Anyway, getting back to the point, this song cooks, and it swings,
and it has several moods (the middle slow part has an eerie feeling to it, 
with lots of textures).  When we did it in '81, we kept the drum
breaks in the same spots as Louie had 'em!  Anyway, the crowd loved
it, and I don't think they can go wrong (the ending is a "blow the
stands down" type - or at least move them a few feet :)

Can you tell I liked this song? :) :) :)

On another thread... Todd Ryan's name has come up several times...
If anyone is interested, he started in Madison - probably marched 
from '74?-'79.  He stayed on a year or two and taught M&M.  Great 
guy.  I thought he had a good teaching style - logical, and treated 
us with respect.  I always thought he'd stay in the activity.  

Cam 
Madison '79-'81
 
 

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From: bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F)
Subject: Re: Crossmen gossip
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:32:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.195757.12860@watson.ibm.com> owens@cyclops.cambridge.ibm.com (Dave Owens) writes:
>Just heard from a friend who heard from a friend...
>
>Crossmen had 230 drummers show up to try out at a recent "drum camp".
>Was anyone out there one of these?  If this is accurate look out
>for an excellent drum line to get even better... (or become a corps
>on it's own! :) )

This number sounds like it may be a bit exagerated, but I'm glad they are
doing well. The Crossmen have had a great drumline for years, and never seem
to get the respect that they deserve from the judges, IMHO.

--Brad.
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From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Boston Crusaders Open House & staff info
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:49:21 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov19.013958.580@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker) writes:
>In article <Nov.17.15.50.30.1992.12645@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:
> ^^^^^^^ <--- THE State University of New Jersey.
>
>>How many corps and how many times have we heard Russian
>>Easter Overture?  
>>
>I think you're thinking of Russian Christmas Music, by Alfred Reed.

I can't say what Ken is thinking, but Boston is not playing Russian Christmas
Music.  They are playing Russian Easer Overture (or something like that) by
Rimsky-Korsakov.

>Scott Radeker
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From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Buggy news reader? (was DCI PREVIEW OF CHAMPIONS)
Date: 22 Nov 1992 17:23:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov21.192246.21593@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu wrote (Re: DCI PREVIEW OF CHAMPIONS):
 
>This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
 
What the fuck is this about?  And why did it originate from
an anonymous account?  (I know it is--I fingered it!)
Is there a UNIX at OSU that's misbehaving?
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Drum Corps Alias?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 13:15:20 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
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In article <01050023.istbdb@chinchilla.cars.com> (alt.drumcorps), niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein) writes:
>I'm forwarding this to my brother, who marched in the 83 and 85 bass
>lines.  Maybe he'll comment on it...

As promised:

I think that you can say that Spirit's bass line was among the best between
1983-1986, but SCV has recently had (I think) the best.  I've always respected
SCV's drum line more than any other corps because of their precision and
professional attitude.


Re Suncoast's bass line:

Ask anyone who marched in Suncoast's bass line in the mid 80's.  They'll tell
you that they learned it all from Spirit.  They used to come up to us during
rehearsals and at shows and just heap praise on us.  They told us we were
their role models!


Comments can go to Jack at Jack.C.Bornstein@sprint.sprint.com

Niel

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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Boston Crusaders Open House & staff info
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:22:16 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu

In article <1992Nov17.165111.14363@watson.ibm.com> owens@cyclops.cambridge.ibm.com () writes:
:>
:>Sheherazade and Russian Easter Overture by Rimsky-Korsakov
:>
:>A long way from Billy Jean by Micheal Jackson, Smooth Operator 
:>by Sade, and Axel-F no?  :)
:>
:>
Quite a long way indeed 


And certainly in the right direction!
Good luck BAC!
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