HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: C= : Where's the Speech?
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:32:24 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED


[Followups are to c.s.a.advocacy.]

>>In article <Bz09KH.HDp@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>>>   Why would a DSP be necessary for something as simple as speech synthesis?

	Good speech synthesis is *not* simple.  You don't know what you are
talking about.  The synthesized speech from personal computers would never
fool anyone into thinking it was a real person talking.  Maybe that's
because it's HARD to create convincing computer voices, eh?  (Digital
sampling doesn't count.)

>In article <Bz1v4z.4qI@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> pejanes@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Peter Janes) writes:
>>At a recent U of W users group meeting, a Commodore rep hinted that an
>>improved in-house version is being written--one that may take advantage of
>>a (then-unannounced) DSP card.

In article <Bz276t.n1x@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   I still think that would be a stupid move.  That would mean that only a 
>tiny number of Amigas with a DSP would be supported with speech...

	Marc once again has jumped to an illogical conclusion based on his
own paranoia and fantasies.  (No surprise.)  Just because speech synthesis
may "take advantage of... a DSP card" doesn't mean that it won't work on
a stock Amiga, idiot.

>With 2.0.4, the speech capability even on an A500 or A1000 is already quite
>good.  The improvements in moving to a DSP would not be all that great; 

	Marc, you clearly know absolutely nothing about speech synthesis.
Don't you think that having over 250 times the sample resolution and
who-knows-how-many-times the processing power will make a difference?!?
Have you ever compared an Ensoniq Mirage with an EPS-16+?  The difference
is *staggering*.

>...the speech libraries could be written something like the math libraries;
>if enhanced hardware is present, software supporting the enhanced hardware
>would be automatically kicked in.

	The first intelligent thing you've said all day.  Your paranoid
conclusion that a DSP would be required is total speculation.  It's
what is known as a "straw man" argument.  If you build up something out
of nothing, it's easy to kick it down.

	Followups are to c.s.a.advocacy.

                                                        Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: C= : Where's the Speech?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:29:16 GMT

In <Bz276t.n1x@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>Besides, there is no reason that the speech libraries could be written 
>something like the math libraries; if enhanced hardware is present, software
>supporting the enhanced hardware would be automatically kicked in.

Exactly.

Regards,
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why I bought a CD-I yesterday and what Commodore needs to do about it.
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:36:42 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <JKH.92Dec14032800@whisker.lotus.ie> jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes:
>
>It was a new Phillips CD-I system, ...
>A salesman materialized in the usual 4.7 nanoseconds
>after I displayed an interest and 2 minutes later I was staring at
>"Treasures of the Smithsonian", a CD-I title featuring audio visual
>"tours" through the Smithsonian Institution.  ...
>It was in this skeptical state of mind that I watched "Smithsonian"
>load on the CD-I.  And was floored.  From top to bottom, the entire
>title simply oozed production values.  It wasn't just a matter of
>having more colors 

Hmmm, hmmm, someone must have done a bad job: Just also this weekend
I entered a warehouse here and recognized they had also a CD-I. I was
curious, because I never had seen one in reality before. A young sales
person was playing a bit with it, lonely, I formed the only "crowd"
around him (but I already do for quite a number of normal people :-).
Anyway, I asked him about the thing and also told him I already had
a CDTV, but someone had stated that CD-I were better. He said yes,
only look at this "Smithsonian" disc. He started it (before he was
playing "Defender of the Crown", never knew it was ported there),
and I just saw the normal GUI of such a remote-driven application.
Not any difference to CDTV. Then he proceeded a bit and showed me some
of the pictures: they looked really BAD! I was surprised, as I had read
so much about the capabilities of that hardware thanks to Kevin, but
this looked not at all sharp or brilliant, just wishy-washy (sp?). And
it was clearly not the fault of the monitor/TV, because the GUI elements
were much sharper. 

There are three possibilities: 1. That sales guy just had no talent to
show the thing off; 2. this app does not use CD-I's video capabilities
to their fullest or the guy just showed me the poor exceptions; or
3. the hype about CD-I video capabilities is exaggerated. Case yet
undecided.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: C= : Where's the Speech?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:36:27 GMT

In <Bz48IL.2su@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   Then why has Commodore removed the speech capability completely from 
>AmigaOS 2.1 and AmigaOS 3.0?  The OS additions to support the DSP are not 
>planned until AmigaOS 3.1.  Logically, if routines were planned to support
>speech with both a DSP and the standard hardware, they would not have changed
>anything with respect to the existing routines until AmigaOS 3.1.  That they
>removed it sooner seems to support the idea that from now on speech will only
>be supported with a DSP.

No, it only says that C= didn't want to pay longer for software licenses
that they aren't going to need in the near future.

>   In other words, the speech is good enough already that I just don't see all
>that much room for improvement.  You can install an array of DSPs or even an
>array of Crays all dedicated to doing speech synthesis, and the speech would
>not be improved all that much.

Wrong.

Regards,
-- 
Michael van Elst
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Why I bought a CD-I yesterday and what Commodore needs to do about it.
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:56:01 GMT

In article <10285@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
>Hmmm, hmmm, someone must have done a bad job: Just also this weekend
>I entered a warehouse here and recognized they had also a CD-I. I was
>curious, because I never had seen one in reality before. 

>Anyway, I asked him about the thing and also told him I already had
>a CDTV, but someone had stated that CD-I were better. He said yes,
>only look at this "Smithsonian" disc.

>Not any difference to CDTV. Then he proceeded a bit and showed me some
>of the pictures: they looked really BAD! 

>There are three possibilities: 1. That sales guy just had no talent to
>show the thing off; 2. this app does not use CD-I's video capabilities
>to their fullest or the guy just showed me the poor exceptions; or
>3. the hype about CD-I video capabilities is exaggerated. Case yet
>undecided.

>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...

	I saw a CDTV demo on October 10. I never had a chance to really
use one until then I had some disc with lots of foreign countries, languages,
and pictures. All I can say is that when this little CDTV put pictures on the
screen, I wondered why I hadn't seen any that beautiful on my Amiga yet...

	HAM8 is another story on its own, and is beautiful. I am upset now 
that I don't have AGA chips.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.tech
From: djs55750@dcl-nxt01 (David John Schulz)
Subject: Re: 1084 MONITOR V-HOLD ADJUST ??? HELP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:50:27 GMT

fwong@bnr.ca (Frank Wong) writes:

> Subject:    1084 MONITOR V-HOLD ???


I have a similiar problem, in a way.  Sometimes when I turn on my 1084s, the
screen is "squished" in the middle, and after a few minutes (around 10-15
mins), the screen "grows" and assumes its normal size.


Why's that?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale,ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers
From: edge@well.sf.ca.us (Christopher L. Seguine)
Subject: Commodore2091Scsi Controller & Quantum 52meg SCSI Drive FORSALE
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:56:09 GMT


For Sale:

Commodore 2091 SCSI Controller
V6.6 Roms
can take 2 megs of RAM
    $50

or

2091 with Quantum 52meg HD
    $200

email edge@well.sf.ca.us
call  Chris @ 415-227-0200
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: djm2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Daniel Jr Murrell)
Subject: Keyboard case
Keywords: keyboard case
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:48:05 GMT

Hey all,
   I have a 500 and i'd desperately love to have a  detachable
keyboard.  If anyone out there has an old case they no longer
need, I'd really appreciate you letting me make an offer.  Thanks!

Dan

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: mdostie@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Dostie)
Subject: *** RICH HALL - are you still here????
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 16:55:08 GMT


Hi,

If Rich Hall reads this message could you please get back to me as soon as
possible I still have a couple of questions for you...

Thanks.

Mark Dostie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.games
From: isc0005@amazon.austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: WANTED: Ultima VI and/or Captive
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:04:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM, Austin

Do not use the reply address in this post!

Anybody have these titles for sale? I might be interested in
purchasing from you...

Rob Tulloh (robtu@itx.isc.com)
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From: evil@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (-=TheEvilOne=-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: *** AMIGA 2000 system FOR SALE ***
Date: 13 Dec 1992 20:15:05 GMT
Organization: War Lord and Imperial Emperor of THE Evil Empire
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


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=-=            Commadore Amiga 2000 Computer FOR SALE  
=-=            --------------------------------------
=-= 
=-=     -- SONY KV-1311CR Color Monitor/TV, Cable ready with remote and
=-=        connector cable to AMIGA.  GREAT Monitor with low flicker not
=-=        to mention a SUPER TV.
=-= 
=-=     -- 1 Meg Ram installed
=-= 
=-=     -- 4 - 1x9 1 Meg SIMMS 80ns, to fit in most ram expansion cards.
=-= 
=-=     -- 1 - 3.5 inch floppy drive  
=-= 
=-=     -- 2090a autobooting hard drive controller.
=-= 
=-=     -- 2 - 20 Meg Hard Drives, 1 5.25 Half Hight installed.  Second 
=-=        is a 3.5"  ST125N ready to be installed as second drive.
=-=
=-=     -- amigA key Keyboard and amiga 2 button mouse.
=-=
=-=     -- 75 DSDD Disks with lots of PD software, and original commercial
=-=        game titles on original disks.
=-= 
=-=     -- 2 - 50 Disk cases. 
=-= 
=-=     -- AMIGA OS 1.3 Rom and system installed on hardrive, with manuals. 
=-=
=-=
=-=     $850.00 for all of it, I'll pay shipping COD.  This is the most         =-=     expandable Amiga around, Great for Toaster Video or programming..
=-=
=-=     ** Contact me VIA E-Mail at evil@imaging.com, or uunet!imaging!evil 
=-=     ** Or if you wish via Phone at 617-275-2700 x335 and we can talk
=-=     ** price and answer questions you might have.

-=Dave Nye
From: ccocstt@prism.gatech.EDU (Dr.Love)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: basic A500 w/monitor and detached keyboard FOR SALE!
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:37:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Amiga 500
  Revision 6A
  Fatter (1mb) Agnus
  Kickstart 1.3 in ROM
    The Fatter Agnus is ENABLED with the A501 to have 1meg CHIP RAM.
    The keyboard is DETACHED (in an A2000 keyboard case).

A1084D monitor


EVERYTHING is in PERFECT WORKING CONDITION!!!
  includes all original manuals, and boxes, if requested.

Asking $400 INCLUDING shipping to anywhere in the U.S.

E-mail me if interested!!

-- 
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Electrical/Computer Engineer :) |  Amiga 4000
"If You Believe in the Heart, Love Can Be Seen"-Beauty&Beast  :) | coming SOON!
WilsnPhilps,Enya,CelnDion,Chicago,AmyGrant,DebGibson,Roxette,DefLep,BonJvi,VanH
From: pegasus@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David R Hucke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Amiga1000 HD Controller forsale
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:02:51 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: pegasus@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


A friend of mine has a DataFlyer 1000 for sale.

This is a SCSI hard drive controller for the Amiga 1000.

Has an option to add memory to the board.

Comes with the manuals and the disk and all neccessary cables.

Does NOT come with an enclosure......

I am asking $150 or best offer.


Send inquiries to this account.

Thank you.

From: pegasus@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David R Hucke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: DataFlyer 1000 SCSI HD Controller
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Keywords: 


A friend of mine has a DataFlyer 1000 for sale.

This is a SCSI hard drive controller for the Amiga 1000.

Has an option to add memory to the board.

Comes with the manuals and the disk and all neccessary cables.

Does NOT come with an enclosure......

I am asking $150 or best offer.


Send inquiries to this account.

Thank you.

-- 
pegasus@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                David R. Hucke
                                        UW-Milwaukee Film Major
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From: Damian_Wallace@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Damian Wallace)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Re: ASDG Minirack c 1Meg expansion/tower for A1000
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:37:34 PST
Organization: Tunnel-Vision BBS!

     In a message dated Fri 11 Dec 92  9:01, Bob.smith@launchpad.unc.edu
(bob Sm wrote:

 BS> ...  This 2 slot expansion box has a 2
 BS> meg card in it, populated with 1 meg of 256k dips.  THe memory is
auto-
 BS> configuring, and they're is a second slot for another memory card or
 BS> whatever.  THe tower has enough room for a 3.5 or 5.25" disk, and
 BS> the power supply looks like it can supply the juice.

 Are those slots Amiga 2000 slots or PC slots?

If they are amiga slots I would be very interested.  Respond via E-Mail or
call me @ 604-451-8886, Voice Mail.

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From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: A501 and AmigaVision
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 08:58:35 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

$40 each - A501 512k RAM expansion for the A500, includes manual
           AmigaVision Multimedia Authoring System, manual, original
              disks, the whole sha-bang.

If interested, e-mail crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us ... shipping is included
in price.

For faster response, call Travis at 814-353-9069.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: Keith.Radley@launchpad.unc.edu (Keith Radley)
Subject: Christmas Games
Summary: great amiga games for sale, I'm running out...
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:20:59 GMT

Act now to get these great games for CHRISTMAS presents!!!
 
Artura....................... $10   Bukadan...................... $10
Das Boot..................... $15   Death Sword.................. $10
Fire Power................... $5    Nuclear War.................. $15
Global Effect................ $20   Obitus....................... $20
Search for the King.......... $25   Silent Service............... $10
Wolfpack..................... $20   Amiga Vision................. $35
 
Act now!!!! All games above (not AV) for $135 delivered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Buyer pays shipping and the C.O.D. charge unless you prepay with a check,
then I'll cover shipping.  Please call me, Keith, at 919/968-7779 any day
after 11 a.m.  Prices are firm as they are a lot lower than the latest
Amiga World I looked at. Please ask for 2 or more to make it worth while
to ship unless you want to pay for shipping one ($3 + $3.50 COD.)  Mail me
quick to get enough to get them for Chirstmas.  Merry Christmas!
 
P.S. Thanks to all the people who have already bought most of the games!
 
                                                  /<eith Radley

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:43:57 EST
From: <SML120@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: A3000 SALE OR TRADE!!!

Selling 9 month old A3000 system in mint condition. Includes:
A3000, 25Mhz, 6 megs RAM, 50 Meg HD, v2.04
1950 Color Multiscan Monitor
Panasonic KX-P1123 24-pin printer
Supra 2400 Modem
All cables,manuals,boxes,software,etc.....included.

Asking $1700+shipping or will consider a trade for an ibm-compatible system.
Leave mail ASAP!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Subject: Re: Wanted (mz154s162 READ THIS)
Reply-To: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Organization: High Altitude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:46:51 GMT

I am very interested in the 10 disc changer and/or the portable CD player.
E-mail your phone # here or call 303-440-7323 sometime this weekend.

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From: tollefson@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: Monkey Island 1
Date: 11 Dec 92 09:29:53 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

I keep hearing about Monkey Island 1, so maybe it is time that I tried it.
Apparently it is a fairly old game, so I'm looking for someone willing to
sell it for about $10.  If you are ready to get the monkey off your back,
send me an offer via E-mail.  (Must be original, working disks with
docs, of course.)
                                    Thanks,
                                       Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: jheald@hydra.unm.edu (Jerry Heald )
Subject: Video Stuff for sale
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 04:17:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa

FrameGrabber by Progressive Peripherals, NTSC model with 2.0 software.
Grab color or b&w images from camcorder, VCR or TV. $250.

External Genlock with fader sliders.
VidTech Scanlock Model VSL-1
Composite and S-Video inputs and outputs. $575.
-- 
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From: teske@opac1.cc.vt.edu (Steve Teske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: ***** FOR SALE: Amiga 3000's *****
Keywords: for sale amiga 3000
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:39:18 GMT
Reply-To: teske@opac1.cc.vt.edu (Steve H. Teske)

* Amiga 3000
  - 25 Mhz
  - 5 MB RAM
  - 105 MB Quantum Harddrive
  - 1 Floppy internal (880K)
  - Serial/Parallel Cables
  - 1960 Monitor
  - 2.0/1.3 Roms and Workbench
  - 2 & 3 buttom mice
  - Surge protector
  
**** $2000 OBO ****

* Amiga 3000
  - 25 Mhz
  - 5 MB RAM
  - 105 MB Quantum Harddrive
  - 1 Floppy internal (880K)
  - Serial/Parallel Cables
  - 1960 Monitor
  - Amiga UNIX V.2

*** CALL ***

voice phone: 703 552 6713

-- Steve T.