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From: dam@itd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: advice sought on small (mini) quality hi-fi units
Summary: advice sought on buying a small quality hi-fi unit
Keywords: mini, quality, hi-fi
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:33:41 GMT
Distribution: aus

I will be living in London for three years in student accommodation
(read space will be limited) and I am wanting to buy a quality hi-fi
which is lightweight and small (but not portable).

I am after any advice that can be offered on good systems and value for
money.  Does anyone know of small lightweight component systems that
are available separately (i.e. I would prefer to spend more money and
ditch a cassette - keeping CD, tuner, amp and a good set of speakers)?
I haven't found any of these yet?

I am looking at getting a Sony FH-656 or 737 but have been told that
the Sony units aren't that good value in the lower end of the market.
The 656 is good because it is light and small.  I was thinking of ditching
its speakers and buying better, but would this be worth it?

Thanks

Damian Marriott
Information Technology Division
DSTO, Salisbury SA
From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: Looking for preamplifier (update)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 00:52:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

st_waldman@zodiac.dsto.oz.au writes:

>Hi again,

>After reading Scott Fisher's comments about the Rotel preamps, I went
>and had a look and listen. The combined preamp/tuner does seem to be
>a good performer, and is not too expensive.

Did you hear the RC980-BX preamp?  That's the top of the range, straight
preamp. $700, actually it's not the "top" as there is a Michi passive 
preamp.

[stuff deleted...]

>Hafler preamp/tuner is $1500, which is quite high. Also, there is only
>a 1-year warranty, which is a bit of a worry. Any comments on the 
>performance of the Hafler preamp/tuner welcome.

[stuff deleted...]

>designed by John Curl for the lower end of the high-end equipment
>market. The warranty is 3-years, which is quite good, assuming the
>local importer is still around if things go wrong.

[stuff deleted...]

Don't forget the Rotel comes with a 5 year warranty.

Regards Scott.
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From: st_waldman@zodiac.dsto.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: Looking for preamplifier (update)
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:17:45 GMT
Organization: D.S.T.O. Aeronautical Research Laboratory

Hi again,

After reading Scott Fischer's comments about the Rotel preamps, I went
and had a look and listen. The combined preamp/tuner does seem to be
a good performer, and is not too expensive.

The folks at Intersound in Melbourne were able to demonstrate the
unit for me, and I also had a listen to the ME preamp for comparison
purposes. The ME seemed to be a bit better with a warmer yet more
detailed sound quality. However, it was considerably more expensive,
and a preamp and tuner would be about double the price of the Rotel.

There is a NAD Model 1700 preamp/tuner that is available for about
$995 at Tivoli Hi-Fi. This also has remote control, as well as
defeatable graphic equalizer that works in two bands with selectable
centre frequencies. This is an unusual feature, but seems to work 
quite well in some situations. The NAD 1700 got a good review in the
US magazine Stereo Review in June 1988. This is a long time ago, and
since the NAD is a good preamp, I am wondering what will replace it.
Maybe the styling will be improved, as it could definitely do with
a face-lift. Can anyone shed some light on what NAD might be offering
in the near future?

While at Tivoli Hi-Fi, I also had a listen to the Hafler Model 945 tuner/
preamp. It sounded quite good, and there was not really any difference
in sound quality that a short listen could show up. The price if the 
Hafler preamp/tuner is $1500, which is quite high. Also, there is only
a 1-year warranty, which is a bit of a worry. Any comments on the 
performance of the Hafler preamp/tuner welcome.

Also, I  visted Secher Audio, and they had a tuner/preamp called the
Parasound C/PT-1000R. It seems like a very nice unit, and the preamp
stages uses discrete FETs, and high quality resistors. Unfortunately
this was not available for audition at the time. Price is around $1350,
which puts it in the upper envelope of my budget. Supposedly the
Parasound company is a lower-cost version of Levinson equipment, 
designed by John Curl for the lower end of the high-end equipment
market. The warranty is 3-years, which is quite good, assuming the
local importer is still around if things go wrong.

Has anyone any comments on the Parasound preamp tuner? What is the price 
in the USA, so that I can compare value for money? Are there any real
sonic benefits to the use of FETs? If anything, the Parasound preamp/
tuner has got a poorer noise performance than the Rotel, and much
worse than the NAD. Seems to be a waste partnering a high S/N ratio
CD player with a preamp whose noise specs are not as good.

There are also preamps (only) from Denon and Yamaha that are avialable
here, as well as from Onkyo. What sort of performance can I expect
from them.

Witold Waldman

WITOLD@HOTBLK.DSTO.GOV.AU
From: MATGBB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BYRNES,Graham)
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: watts RMS? what watts conversion?
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:21:04 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <1992Sep8.013412.5372@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> MATGBB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU writes:

> In <nics.714954117@ee.uts.EDU.AU> nics@ee.uts.edu.au writes:
> > 
> > RMS (Root Mean Square) is a mathematical operation used to compare AC signals.
> > As power is always positive, it is NOT required to calculate the RMS, it is
> > sufficient to calculate the AVERAGE ! RMS power is simple a marketing buzzword
> > for continuous average power, that is, the amount of power (P = VI averaged over
> Sorry Nick, you dont know what you are talking about. RMS is not the same as
> average. For a sine wave their is a constant factor relating them, but for more
> complicated wave -forms the relation is not readily predictable.
> I'll update this after I've had some sleep...
> Graham B 
> > Nick
Sooorrry,
I didn't know what I was talking about. I thought Nick was comparing average
and RMS voltage magnitudes, but he doesn't say that. Everything he says is
correct. Sorry again for shooting off my mouth while my brain was still on 
its way back from Belgium somewhere.

It might be worth noting that the IEC pulse power spec is possibly more
relevant than peak power, since it requires the output over a few msecs,
rather than an instantaneous peak (which is why those PMP figures are so high:
they don't last long, folks).

Actually, instantaneous power can be negative, viz driving a capacitor
with a voltage source, where the power is pos on 0ne 1/2 cycle and neg on the
other, to cancel to zero. And in fact you don't take the root anyway to get 
power, only to get the DC voltage that would dissipate the same power in
a resistive load of the same magnitude...power ratings should really
be "MS" without the "R".

(Maths junkies might note that the nice thing to do would be to plot max
power in the L^p norm against p: p=2 gives RMS power, p--> +infty
gives the inst. peak power.... dream on)
Graham B
(appologetically)
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
From: gjessup@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au (Geoff Jessup)
Subject: Re: Choosing a CD player
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:25:05 GMT

Something appears to have gone wrong with my first attempt. If at first.....

Basically bit stream is a more elegant way to recover the desired audio signal  from the CD. With the older  A to D method, a chip would take a word of say 18  bits (read off the CD at the rate of over 44,000 words per second) and re-      constitute the voltage level defined by that word. This method requires rather  severe filtering to clean up the desired audio signal, very good filters are    required in order not to interfere with the audio. 
On the other hand, bit stream turns the data words read off the CD into a con-  tinuous pulse-width-modulated stream of bits, one of the components of which is the desired audio. Only mild filtering is required to clean it up. Cross over   distortion is eliminated and there is less distortion, particularly at lower    levels.
Having said all that, the difference is not dramatic and requires very good gearto discern. I have compared an older A-D Sony to a bit stream Sony, synchronisedwith the same CD in each. Bit stream did sound 'smoother', especially in quieterpassages, but the difference was subtle. By the way, the upper end Sony players are excellent, especially the 'ES' series. 
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
From: johnm@shark.mel.dit.csiro.au (John Mazzocchi)
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: Brands.
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:34:43 GMT
Followup-To: aus.hi-fi
Distribution: aus
Organization: CSIRO, Division of Information Technology

In article <1992Sep4.031325.27773@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, scott@psy.uwa.oz.au
(Scott Fisher) wrote:
> 
> I notice certain brands receive little attention in the US audio groups
> such as Luxman.
> 
> In those groups (rec.audio, rec.audio.high-end) I see a lot of talk
> about Adcom, Thiel and Carver products.  To the best of my knowledge
> these are almost unheard of in Australia.  Can anyone enlighten me as
> to why?  And also an assesment of their quality would be good too.
> 

InterSound in Balwyn, Victoria sell Adcom equipment and I've seen Carver
equipment
for sale 2nd hand in the Trading Post so presumably someone stocks it. As
to Thiel,
I've only ever seen it in magazines.

Cheers, John.

------------------
John Mazzocchi
johnm@mel.dit.csiro.au

"The mind is not a vessel to be filled,
 but a fire to be lighted"
                       - Plutarch
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie)
Subject: Re: 30 K ???? 
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 02:07:40 GMT

mylene@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au (Mylene Pijpers) writes:

>In <1992Sep2.021003.21686@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au> writes:

>>In article <1992Aug31.114038.6000@bohra.cpg.oz.au> Daavid Turnbull,
>>daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au writes:
>>>
>>>As for the pedestrians/joggers I do not try and alert them to my presence
>>>anymore, they are far more predictable moving objects if you do not.
>>>Can scare the pants off them however as you whizz past at 30K... they
>>>obvious do not hear a thing, with or without walkman.

>>Yep, if you warn pedestrians they general become more of a nuisance.
>>Like you I go straight past.  I'm sure the people who wrote the
>>"Cyclists please ring bell" signs would have something to say about
>>that (-;


>WHAT???

>I think if YOU fools whizz towards a pedestrian at 30 K

>by the time you SEE the poor soul, get out of that awkward position
>the "real" bikeriders feel they should have (bent all over) to reach
>for that fashionable bell that only does 'p'ng', there is not much
>time, if any, left to pass them.
>No wonder they jump at everything, after some of those experiences.

>Please, stick to those wonderful bitumen roads they make for 
>*fast* traffic, like cars, if you want to whizz at 30 K.


>Mylene

>Commuting by bike, baby in the backseat, at a comfortable speed of 
>?? 10-12 K an hour. And enjoying the wildflowers, by the way.

If I rode at that speed it would take me 1 1/2 hours to get to work.  30k is
"taking it easy" for any reasonably fit cyclist (10 k is jogging pace, not
cycling pace for me anyway !!).  The problem here though, is still the 
design of bike ways that are made to narrow for safe riding. If the Bikeways 
where designed by people with above moron level IQ's then recreational 
cyclists who wish to ride slowly and commuters who want to travel at 20k->30k 
could co-exist happly. 

(BTW one place to ALWAYS slow right down on a bikeway 
is around small children on bikes.  Talk about brownian motion !!  Almost 
collected one this morning that decided to to a U turn across in front of me 
when I was about a meter away !)


Also I have my doubts about the safety of carrying a child in a seat on the
back of a bike.  If you have a bingle, what happerns to the child ??.  (Even
at 10k, I have come off hard enough at that sort of speed to hurt myself
due to holes in concrete etc)


regards


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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: c9105461@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: mail order
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:43:06 GMT


Is there anybody in Aus. who sells bike gear by mail order.
If so how do I get a catalogue and what are their prices like?

thanks
andrew
c9105461@cc.newcastle.edu.au
 
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull)
Subject: recently seen in rec.bicycles.misc  (and a good idea?)
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:21:44 GMT


Article 309 of rec.bicycles.misc:
>From: hans@Software.Mitel.COM (Hans Johnsen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc,ott.general
Subject: Re: Bicycle lanes!
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:10:47 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

>pete@aix1.uottawa.ca (Pete Hickey) writes:

>>Now, on some other streets (Mount Bleu)  They've done something
>>even more weird.  The cars ride in the street as usual, but the
>>cyclists ride between the parked cars and the sidewalk.  There is
>>about a meter-wide strip.  It looks like this:
>>
>>
>>   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
>>   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
>>   | Bikes | parked|  Cars    ||  Cars    | parked| Bikes |
>>   |       | cars  |          ||          | cars  |       |
>>   |   |   |       |    |     ||   /|\    |       |  /|\  |
>>   |  \|/  |       |    |     ||    |     |       |   |   |
>>   |       |       |   \|/    ||    |     |       |   |   |
>>   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |
>>   |       |       |          ||          |       |       |

When I was in Copenhagen a few years ago they had a similar setup,
with one minor change which made all the difference. It looked
like this:
   |       | |       |          ||          |       | |       |
   |       |m|       |          ||          |       |m|       |
   | Bikes |e| parked|  Cars    ||  Cars    | parked|e| Bikes |
   |       |d| cars  |          ||          | cars  |d|       |
   |   |   |i|       |    |     ||   /|\    |       |i|  /|\  |
   |  \|/  |a|       |    |     ||    |     |       |a|   |   |
   |       |n|       |   \|/    ||    |     |       |n|   |   |
   |       | |       |          ||          |       | |       |
   |       | |       |          ||          |       | |       |

This prevented the situation you outline above. Of course, it
didn't prevent delivery truck drivers from using the lane as a
loading zone, as they could pull onto it from a driveway.

Some other streets put the sidewalk where the median is in my
diagram. All in all I found the level of accomodation for
bicycles in Copenhagen 12 years ago infinitely better than what
is provided now in any North American City I have been in.
Unfortunately I wasn't biking when I was over there.
-- 
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and firing an Uzi, and terrified citizens will phone the police and
report: "There's a naked person outside!" - Mike Nichols


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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie)
Subject: Re: 30 K ????
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 02:11:07 GMT

I have even had pedestrians who have deliberately moved to the center of the
bikeway to obstruct me when I ring my bell warning them I am approaching, or
yell abuse as I go past.  



-- 
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           ( A.C.N. 051 775 556 ) | no-way reflect the views or policies of the
NWPD-NE Computer Support Services | Australian and Overseas Telecommunications
EMAIL: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au| Corporation. "These are my opinions alone"
From: rfrwatson@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Goulburn to Liverpool Race
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:40:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:peg:490100024:000:464
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!rfrwatson    Sep 14 21:40:00 1992


Please, anybody ----- the results of the goulburn to LIverpool ?
Which way did they go? Why was it a race record (I hear)?
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                                     AUSTRALIA
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: gabrielh@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Gabriel Haythornthwaite)
Subject: Marked cycle routes 
Originator: gabrielh@sydrd19
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 02:55:14 GMT


On the subject of cycleways, has anybody tried the new expressway into 
the city from the end of epping road? It has an excellent and well marked 
cyclepath with heaps of almost unmarked exits that are available to cyclists 
but not to motorists.

It's a shame that there isn't a big sign at the start of it saying all the 
places cyclists can go to on it. Beats the shit out of the pacific highway. 

Even more of a shame is that the RTA didn't finish the job. All the signs 
directing cyclists to the city mysteriously disappear (as does the 
cycleway) and if you didn't know Sydney and were crazy enough to follow 
the road signs you would end up on the bridge or (worse) in the tunnel 
with no way to turn back.

This is not untypical of many of the cycle routes marked on the lower
north shore. They just disappear as you approach the bridge.

I still have no idea how I'm supposed to get onto the bridge cyclepath 
from the expressway cyclepath though I've discovered a way of doing it.

IMHO signposting like this is misleading, irresponsible, dangerous and 
a hazard in itself.

Gabriel.

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restful it is to watch the cursor blink.  Close your eyes.  The opinions
stated above are yours.  You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
From: x01233@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Re: Accident rates up 10% following compulsory helmet legislation?
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:07:22 GMT
 <lcampbel.715392088@adelphi> <mylene.715483502@swanee> <1992Sep4.022711.13861@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au>
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <1992Sep4.022711.13861@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au>, quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au (Quinn) writes:
> In article <mylene.715483502@swanee> Mylene Pijpers,
> mylene@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au writes:
>>
> 
>>Please, stick to those wonderful bitumen roads they make for 
>>*fast* traffic, like cars, if you want to whizz at 30 K.
> 
> Believe me I'm rapidly coming to that opinion myself.  The problem
> with modern cities is that there are all these wonderful roads for
> cars and bugger all for cyclists.
> 

No! No! No! You've got it all (mostly!) wrong!
Roads are built for _vehicles_ which include trucks, motorcycles, cars and
bicycles. Never make the error of saying that the roads are for cars!
(Of course some roads are Motorized Vehicle only, e.g. freeways, harbour
tunnels, and some are designed without cyclists in mind, but still....)


> Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
> Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia
>   -- Just a misunderstood cyclist.

Dale Stanbrough
RMIT
Melbourne, Australia
dale@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Re: 30 K ????
From: lippir@cbr.hhcs.gov.au (Robert Lipping)
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:45:50 +1000
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Sep5.021107.25606@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au>, logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) writes:
> I have even had pedestrians who have deliberately moved to the center of the
> bikeway to obstruct me when I ring my bell warning them I am approaching, or
> yell abuse as I go past.  
> 
I was riding around Lake Burley Griffin last Sunday and rang my bell when
approaching two walkers who were already on the left side of the track.
Guess what? They moved to the right!! I almost had a "brownian motion"
myself....

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From: "gary walsh" <gary.walsh@canrem.com>
Subject: recumbent bike info #2
Reply-To: "gary walsh" <gary.walsh@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:04:26 EST


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