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>From: "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

>love, judith, who doesn't, either

	Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!

	I feel better after seeing this!

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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>Where have all the flowers gone??
>
>Geez, Ruth, it's 1992; you're giving me the deja v00z
>
Well, I might, if I knew the words in English.:-)  My parents were from
the wrong generation to have Joan Baez albums hanging around.....
Besides, Flower Power and Folkies are *back*!
Right along with the bell bottoms and platform shoes.....

Maybe that stuff should have stayed gone?

>
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Reality vs. Rhetoric

>  RHETORIC: Dan Quayle said, "He [Clinton] will raise your taxes..."

> REALITY: George Bush said "Read My Lips: No New Taxes" and then
> signed the second- largest tax increase in history.

You wonder why conservatives are furious with Bush?  The question is, will
the Democrat's plan be any improvement?  Specifically, the plan's
intent is only to raise taxes on a few.  But higher marginal tax rates
make it more profitable to look for loopholes and move income overseas
or otherwise keep it out of the IRS's hands.  Then where will President
Clinton get the money to pay for those bullet trains and other toys?

> RHETORIC: "...he will increase spending..."

> REALITY: The conservative Cato Institute called Bush "the largest
> spender to sit in the White House in the past 30 years" -- noting
> Bush "increased the domestic budget more in 4 years than Carter and
>  Reagan combined did in 12 years." [Cato Institute, 6/19/92]  The

Cato is more "libertarian" than conservative.  All Bush has done is give
the Democrats an excellent base from which to do their stagflationary thing.
Got a little malaise for that sandwich?

> RHETORIC: "...he will make government bigger..."

> REALITY: For the first time there are more U.S. jobs in government than

> in manufacturing.

See why I reject the "twelve years of Reagan and Bush?"  The president
is in a poor position to complain about anyone being a tax, spend, and
regulate politician, but a Democrat who claims not to be one is about as
common as a whistling shrimp.  Further, one way to reduce the cost of
manufactured goods is to use fewer people in making them, so the comparison
may be misleading, and the data base might be outmoded.

Steve Karlson

Thanks, Alec, for posting something I could go to work on.
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Posted on 11 Oct 1992 at 21:09:59 by Anne Burton Harwell
>Did Perot kick everybody's ass or what?

Yes.  Bush was very weak...

Karen
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Steve,

>20) NSW government/XPT train (Carolyn)
>
>>   XPT train - Australian imitation of high-speed French trains. I'm not sure
>> where this label originated, but I have heard it referred to as "eXtra-fast
>> Passenger Transport/Train". The speeds they are supposed to be capable of are
>> never realised on our antiquated railway lines.
>
>To my eye, they're imitations of British Rail's High Speed Trains.

I'm blaming my son for that! He now reckons the Aussies imitated the Brits
imitating the French. :-)

Carolyn
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Gosh, Jim Thomas commends me for searching for truth; JAG compliments
me for asking about information <before> I make up my mind, and Karen
Kay suggests I ask around about reactions to Anne's picture ... that's
a lot of good news on an otherwise gloomy Thursday afternoon.

Thanks mates!

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted spirits tack.
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Subject:      Don't bother reading the book...those who haven't gave away the
              plot

Ausbrook, thinking he's onto something, yelps:

    >Well, Greenfield is wrong, right?  He is wrong about "today's
    >money"--it's a

Yes, Michael, Greenfield is wrong. It's in the book. In black in
white. There are no pictures, but with patience and enough pointers,
I think you can find it. May I suggest that those who want to make
a case out of this first read books upon which they speak with
so much passion?
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From:         Sam Derrida <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
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> I am not accustomed to misunderstanding others, nor to being misunder-
> stood.
.
I suggest, Miss Bayla, that you read my latest work on the
intertextual obfuscation of the tension of virtual and real reading
habits among the intellectually disadvantaged, as Mr. -ggs seems to
be.
.
> I presumed --ggs was expressing grateful belief in the miraculous,
> attributing whatsisname's decision <not to attend ggs's institution>
> to Divine intervention.
.
That parallels my own enlightened _reading_ of his electronic
utterance, but I suspect that he became confused by the metatextual
thrust of your reply.
>
> My post implied that his gratitude, and therefore the renewed faith
> derived therefrom, was due to a failure of his (ggs's) imagination.
.
The density of Mr. -ggs' perceptivity threshold surely contributed to
his confusion in the face of the cultural subtext of your missive.
>
> Has Master wordSmith become so <entangled> with Derrida that he can
> no longer read linear-b (b for bayla, that is)?
.
Is that J. Derrida of whom you are speaking?  Or yours truly?  I
must assure you that I have never been guilty of becoming <entangled>
with Mr. -ggs.  Nor do I have any intention of becoming so.
.
> --Herself (harrumphing)
.
Grateful for this opportunity to offer my reading of the multatiered
complex imbedded in the fragment "There *is* a god", I remain
most deconstructively yours
--S. Derrida
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Subject:      deja v00z (was German Day)

Where have all the flowers gone??

Geez, Ruth, it's 1992; you're giving me the deja v00z

Steve Karlson
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e-oops.

neal
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Posted on 15 Oct 1992 at 14:25:26 by Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)
>me of Rem and Stimpy (Quayle was Rem on acid, and Gore was
       ^^^
Even I know it's Ren and Stimpy, and I only get ABC, so have never seen
it.

>Jim (Whatever Quayle was on, I want some) Thomas
I think 15 cups of coffee would do it.  I have to say, his performance
Tuesday (Quayle's) was MUCH better than at the Republican convention,
He must have spent a lot of time practicing.  Now if we could only teach
him not to whine or stutter.

Karen
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> Best dialectical flourish:
>   Quayle:  The presidency already has term limits....
>   Gore:    We're fixin' to limit one.

It occurred to me during the debate that while Quayle's coaches were
feeding him pep pills Gore's coaches might have been telling him to use
as much Southern dialect as possible for him.  I was intrigued by that
thought since it suggested that one goal was trying to capture more of
the Southern vote, which would be fine if it didn't risk losing other
votes.  I've heard lots of people say things like "You know, Gore isn't
*really* from the South."  Maybe his use of "y'all" and "fixing to" was
an attempt to dispell that image.  (I'm pretty sure that "fixing to"
has spread pretty far and wide now, though, and is not just Southern.)
Or maybe his assignment was to try to be as folksy as he could.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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              10 Oct 1992 14:39:00 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

On Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:39:00 EST Entropy Warrior said:
>>"Na Twoje trumne, ze stuletniego deba, ktory posadze jutro."
>         a
>Ale jestes analfabeta

   Here I mistranscribe a letter of his original toast and the
   Zolnierz entropijny gloats, "Jeez, you're illiterate."  But
   see endnote 1) below.

>> To your coffin, from a hundred-year-old oak, which I will plant tomorrow.
>>
>>     An inventive way to wish someone Sto lat!, Michael -- did you
>>     come up with this or is it a standard Polish expression?
>>     Shouldn't that be "zasadze"?
>
>Nie przesadzaj.

   I asked the Wojownik if a different perfective verb might not have
   been preferable, and he responds, enigmatically, "Don't transplant."

>I nie, jak zwykle ukradlem to.  Jest przetlumaczeniem starego toasta
><rossijskiego>.

   "And no, as usual, I stole this.  It's a translation of an old <Russian>
    toast."  (See endnote 2) below.)

>Nie ma wejscia tym wysciem
                   <wyjsciem?>

   "There is no entry by way of this exit."

ENDNOTES

   1) Polish has so many diacritical marks and special characters that
      it's easy to get lost even in the simplest sentence when they
      are lacking in this damned ASCII environment.  I wonder how
      they handle this over on soc.culture.polish.  I will check at once.

   2) The Poles have been making toasts for centuries!  They had to
      borrow this word from English?!  Are we linguistic imperialists,
      or what?

brad
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Greetings,

Last year someone posted very squishy essay about random acts of kindness
and senseless acts of beauty.  It was, of course, disgusting.  Recently,
I heard a radio commentator discussing this idea without attributing it
to a source, and I'd like to take another look at it for the sake of
comparison.  Does anyone have a copy of this hideous document?

Marty (practicing senseless acts of violence and random acts of mindlessness)
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:Posted on 12 Oct 1992 at 19:19:23 by Marty Rosen
:>and an immature, disheartening grasp of important foreign issues (that
:>answer on China!  Jeezus Christ).
:
:This part of the tirade on Clinton.  Marty, in general, I am impressed
:w/ the fact that Clinton lived abroad--he's the only presidential candidate
:I can remember in a long time who has spent a significant amount of time
:living alone in a foreign country.  I like this, because this experience

I hardly think 4 years in Oxford counts as a deep insight into foreign
countries.  He probably wouldn't notive the difference from Harvard,
apart from the accents.  Even that's debatable.

G
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On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:33:47 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> > Hokey smoke, Natalie, didn't you learn long ago not to mess with moose (or
> > squirrel)?
>
> Bernard was beside me to offer support.

And lick off the chocolate mousse that you dived into?

G
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Uhmmm, Marty, if I were you I wouldn't throw all of us into one basket, the
 conservative evangelicals, that is.  There are some who would love a nice
no-nonsense fascist state.  The rest of us lost too damned many relatives to
the last batch that blew through Eastern Europe.  So did many of our friends.
My next door neighbor had most of his family wiped out - the ones the nazis
didn't just plain murder, the camps did.
With mainstream evangelical Christianity, fascism is about as popular an idea
as a nuclear waste dump turned into an elementary school.  

		Ruth
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> Tell them I love being treated as a delicate flower, protected from the
> frost and cruelties of nature. It's part of my southern background you
> know.

Another steel magnolia.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Greetings, Steve,

If you don't find the appropriate WSJ, let me know and I'll send you the
account.

Marty
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>> She loves the <sweet tushar>, whom she has met here on-list.  Surely
>>... the witty, insightful, brilliant, and talentedtushars we have also met?
>
>I wonder where he went.
>doris

OK. Trying out language (registers or dialects or whatever you call them)
is DIFFERENT from assuming "persona"s. I have never understood what "persona"
means, and I doubt that word is very useful. Y-tushar and Z-tushar frankly
sounds like a lot of nonsense to me.

tushar
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Posted on 15 Oct 1992 at 14:30:27 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)
>Hmmm ... maybe I should skip the goat roast and any other ftf dealing
>with list folks ... the role of object of speculation has its charms.

Well, Steve, you know that many of the women were...thrilled? by Torkel's
gif.  You should ask Anne what the reaction was when she brought your
photograph back to Judith's house this summer.  I think you'd be plennty
gratified...and charmed.

Kaaren
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              11 Oct 1992 10:19:07 -0500 from <harwood@TENET.EDU>

>Yes, and I want to hear it...where *is* it?  I thought Friday night and
>Saturday night were slow, but this is *very* strange.
>ndh

    All the plumbing seems to be in working order, Nancy.  Is it
    conceivable that people ... just ... don't ... have ... anything
    to say?    --brad
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Greetings

I shall look for the Wall Street Journal in question, Marty.
With Columbus Day approaching, maybe I can violate all the
guidelines at once.  If the article names names, and I
recognise any, I will advise the list if any of the members
should be violated, or if you should put bags over their heads
first!

Steve Karlson
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:16:15 EST, "Entropy Warrior" <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
 wrote:
> I always wondered about the bold zeugma in "plants and equipment."

It's really frightening to see a sign "Danger, Plant Crossing" when you're
11 years old and saw "Day of the Triffids" for the first time the night before.

G
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So, my son and I wondered how a tiny community in Eastern NC
ever got the name "Republican" and we decided that it was
probably established as a town for freed slaves after the war.
Does that make any sense?  Seems to be a completely black town
(of one church and three houses) in the middle of nowhere.
.
But, it is about ten miles from Oak City, where yesterday a
bank robber took a man and wife hostage in a bank before the
bank opened in the morning (they were the cleaning staff). The
standoff with police and SBI (State Bureau of Investigation)
swat team lasted all day, during which the robber shot and killed
the local sheriff when he walked up to the bank to talk to the
robber.  Then, the swat team threw a concussion bomb into the
bank and started shooting when everybody started running out.
Killed the woman, injured her husband and the robber.  The
SBI set up a panel to investigate whether the hostages were
shot by swat team bullets, but then the attorney general said
some people might say that is like having the fox check out the
chicken coop, so he called in the FBI for an investigation, which
seems to me as sort of like having the fox's daddy check out the
chicken coop.  This was in a tiny town (about 700 residents) and
the robber was a local.  The cleaning couple are black, as is the
robber.  Wonder if they would have proceeded the same way if the
hostages had been two white tellers?  I am depressed about the
<state> of the world tonight.
--ggs
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Subject:      Creutzfeldt-Jacob
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>What's a Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease, and what are the symptoms?  It sounds
>interesting, to say the least.

	Not one to look things up, I'll just sort of wing it on this.  CJD is a
	degenerative neurologic disease.  Unlike amyotrophic lateral sclerosis
	(ALS = Lou Gehrig's disease), which affects strictly motor neurons and
	leaves a perfectly healthy intellect inside a non-functional body, CJD
	causes rapid deterioration of intellect, personality, and such.  Really
	nasty disease, leading to dementia and death in just a few years (if
	that).

	On autopsy, a CJD brain has certain features which are similar to those
	of the New Guinea ancestor-brain eaters and those sheep I referred to.

	It is surmised that CJD results from infection by a 'slow virus,' but I
	have no idea what sort of (unidentified) virus it might be.

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Subject:      Websters...
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Anyone with an online Websters care to check these words for me? - They
cause the webster server to drop the connection! - i suspect they're
the electronic equivalent of 'map traps'...

G
===
alpha
altair
beta
chi
epsilon
eta
gamma
hyoid bone
ihs
iota
mesomere
mu
nu
omega
pi
psi
rho
sigma
smooth breathing
tau
upsilon
zeta

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