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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: sorry to bothr with such small questions
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:57:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <qball.090c@pongnet.chi.il.us> qball@pongnet.chi.il.us (John Irey ) writes:
>        currently I am running dos 5.0 and have seen amigas multi task and am
>impressed by that...

The Amiga has special hardware for doing graphics, sound, and
processing in parallel.  The AmigaDOS operating system can run
multiple apps at once, but it doesn't provide facilities to keep them
out of each other's memory space.  This results in the dreaded "Guru
Meditation Error Numbers" that plague users running unfriendly
applications.

>now will os/2 multi task? or unix? I have never seen them operate and dont know

Both will.  OS/2 has been designed with miltitasking in mind from the
ground up.  Version 2.0 will create virtual machines for running DOS
and Windows applications as well.  It requires a 386 with at least 6MB
of memory (ignore that 4MB "requirement" on the box if you value your
sanity) and at least 32MB of free disk space (I gave mine a 50MB
partition all to itself and its mostly happy).  OS/2 1.3 can be gotten
for the 286 user, but its DOS compatibility isn't that compatible and
it tends to bring down the rest of OS/2 - the only safe way to use
OS/2 1.3 is to disable DOS compatibility, then it's almost
crash-proof.

Unix is also a very robust multitasker.  Its problems are: large
hardware requirements (large disk and as much memory as you can get -
typical minimum installation is a 100MB disk and 8MB of memory), and
difficult to maintain.  Unix maintenance shouldn't really be attempted
by a new Unix user.

>well someone please help what should I buy for good multi tasking?

If you want to stick with a PC, I'd recommend OS/2 2.0.  It will have
problems with some badly-behaved programs (mostly high-end games), but
these programs will fail to work with most (if not all) multitaskters.
If you have some programs like this, you may want to keep DOS around
for them - OS/2 provides this option in the form of the boot manager
or Dual Boot system.

>and oh yea do you have to by special programs for os/2 I mean like for os/2
>kinda like wordperfect for windows?

There are some.  More will come in the near future.  


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From: thg@cam-orl.co.uk (Tim Glauert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Needs a Supervisor mode!
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:35:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Organization: Olivetti Research Ltd, Cambridge, England.

In article <mcdonald.211@aries.scs.uiuc.edu>, mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug16.001819.14010@unixg.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
|> >some people have complained about OS/2 not having multiuser capabilities
|> 
|> You want Unix, or, even better, VMS or an IBM or Unisys mainframe operating 
|> system.

Or VMS++, which is Windows NT :-)

|> You know where to find them.

... but you'll have to wait 6 months or so for NT proper.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kbass@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Bass)
Subject: Re: OSes was Re: Win NT support in OS/2
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.040957.15423@news.columbia.edu> mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:
>In article <7154@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>>In article <gnash.714266561@ee.uts.EDU.AU> gnash@ee.uts.edu.au (Greg Nash) writes:
>>>It's more like trying to run X clients and servers on top of DOS, with
>>>full multi-tasking. I am aware Desqview does something LIKE that, but
>>>why isn't everyone using it?
>>
>>Because Quarterdeck took a year too long to get DESQview/X out. They appear,
>>at least from where I sit, to have missed their window of opportunity (no pun
>>intended). DV/X is a killer system, but OS/2 is even better.
>
>I agree with you 100%!  Now if only someone would come out with a cheap TCP/IP
>and X-Windows for OS/2!
>
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Both can be had for around $200 fro ComputerAssoc? How much cheaper you
want? 

-- 
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George Mason University                       |   Techniques Corp, 
Student, Department of Electrical Engineering |   Software Engineer 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: M21093@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Print Questions and the New 32 bit Version
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:09:20 GMT

I understand IBM is about to release the complete 32 bit version of 2.0. Anyone
see it yet?  I've been using 2.0 since October 91 and I've been quite happy wit
h it. Couple of questions:
1) Anyone figure out how to drop a text icon (Word, Describe, etc.) onto a prin
ter (HP Laserjet 3) and have it print out correctly?
2) I have a Gateway 2000, 386/33 w/ 20 Mb RAM. The MEMSTATS routine only sees a
max of about 7000 Mg free after startup and goes down from there. Is that right
? Is there a better product out there?
3) How does one download fonts to the printer at startup (automatically or manu
ally)?
 
Thanks
From: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM4072/BJ-300 OS/2 Driver
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:53:54 GMT
Reply-To: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <gal502-120892175048@150.203.36.86>,
gal502@huxley.anu.edu.au (Graeme Lindsell) writes:
|> I have uploaded to ftp-os2.nmsu.edu /pub/downloads 
|>                  
|>                      OS24072.exe
|> 
|>  This is the OS/2 printer driver for the IBM 4072 ExecJet
|> Printer, which is a clone of the CanonBJ-300. It is marked
|> |> as a beta version. It will work for the BJ-10e when it
|> is
|> switched to Proprinter emulation. I have experienced
|> some problems with my paper feed, but I am unsure as
|> to whether these are the result of the driver or of the
|> printer itself.
|> 
|>  The file is a self-extracting (under OS/2) archive in the
|> format 
|> it came in from Lexmark. Extract it and read the included
|> Readme file for further instructions. I contacted Lexmark
|> and 
|> was given permission to re-distribute it freely as long as
|> I didn't
|> make a business of it, so I guess that applies to you as
|> well.
|> 
|>  Many thank to Dave Jackson for telling me about this
|> driver.

yeah, what I forgot to say was to set form feed to "none" - I
have no problem
printing on A4  on a BJ10 EX like this.

Dave.

David J Jackson   Telephone +44 473 645805
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Adding programs to pop-up menus: QUESTION
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:04:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.010228.15325@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>But now when I select the Windows comm program, it launches full screen WINOS2
>before launching the apps (I WANT it seamless), and when I select the 
>DOS comm program, it lauches FULL SCREEN DOS before it launches the DOS app.
>I want THAT in a DOS _window_.  
>So does anyone know how to:
>1) Let it know I want seamless Windows program from the pop-up menu
>2) Let it know I want a WINDOWED DOS session for the DOS app
>3) Also: How do I lauch a command.com or something and have it by default
>come up as a windowed DOS box?

Just write a CMD file (OS/2's equivalent of a batch file, though much
more powerful, especially when using REXX code) which does one thing:
calls the application in question using START.  Look up the various
options for START in your online Command Reference and all will be
clear.  Then attach this CMD file to your system menu just as you did
with CMD.EXE.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Template problem
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:41:53 GMT

In article <t2#n_4a.bob@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>I have a problem.  Somehow, and I have no idea how, I find myself
>with multiple Printer, Font Palette, Program, and Scheme Palette
>templates.  I'd like to get rid of the extra ones, but I don't
>know how to do it.  
>
>Can anybody help?

Couldn't yuou just drag them to the Shredder?

--
Dan Stephenson das9674@usl.edu 
"Is it that Blake has a genius for leadership, or merely that *you* have a 
 genius for being led?" -Avon, from Blakes 7
From: laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Can't use A: drive with PM!
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:41:16 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I think I'm going to lose it (again)!  I finally received LAN Server
2.0, so I cleaned off the server and tried to install OS/2 2.0.

Bzzz!  After reboot (during install), when I'm asked to disk 6, I'm
stopped.  I keep hitting [Enter], it keeps beeping and telling me to
put in disk 6.  (Yes, I did put it in, but the drive light doesn't
even come on.)

So...I decided to stick with good ol' 1.3 on the server.  The install
went fine.  Then I tried applying the CSD's.  No A: drive.  (Sector
not found error.)  So I finally swapped drives (B: was a 5.25") and
rebooted (and changed the CMOS).  Works (usually) o.k. as B:.  The
5.25" on A: doesn't, though.

My AMI BIOS is dated 04-09-90 - it checks out.

My drive cable _shouldn't_ be the problem since the A: drive is the
closer one to the controller card (on the cable).  Also, it works
just fine if I boot from a floppy.

I started to have this problem back when I was running MS LAN Manager,
but it was quite infrequent.  Now it's a major pain!

Any ideas?  (I'm still waiting on yet another call back from IBM.)

--kyler 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: fkilpatr@afit.af.mil (Freeman A. Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Is anyone using OS/2 with a 486sx 20/25?
Keywords: 486 486sx os2
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:41:22 GMT

govax@wam.umd.edu (Seigneur Tenebreux) writes:

>I am currently constructing a computer system for personal usage, and being
>a poor college type (almost redundant, repetitiive, I realise :) I am
>leaning towards getting a 486sx motherboard due to low cost in lieu of just
>a fast 386.  I am interested in doing computational linguistics work at
>a graduate level in a couple years, but don't forsee a pressing need for
>the FPU at the moment (I can always get an overdrive proc. when the prices
>drop if I want to upgrade that system in the future, but by then, a more 
>advanced computer may be another consideration)  I am highly interested in
>OS/2 2.0 and have followed its rn groups quite often.

>My question is as the subject line says.. has anyone had experience working
>with OS/2 on a 486sx 20 or 25?  What have your experiences been like?
>How is performance with a relatively fast hd and hpfs?

I am running OS/2 on a 486 SX/20 that is being pushed to 33 MHz and have
experienced no problems.  (I have also run at 20 and there was no noticeable
difference)  As has been mentioned in this group before, the absolute most
important thing is having at least 8 Meg of memory.  As long as you don't swap to
the disk, it will be fast enough.

As a side note, you can get 486 SX's pretty cheap at the computer fairs -- it seems
like the dealers are just trying to get rid of them.  Mine is actually a 486DX
motherboard stuck with an SX.  And I got it for the amazing low price of $280 new!
The lack of FPU doesn't seem to be a problem, all the applications seem to figure
out that it is missing just fine on their own.

Good Luck!

-- 
Alex Kilpatrick  fkilpatr@afit.af.mil  
"Where the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1 1/2 tons." 
---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: IBM OS/2 news at PC92
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:57:10 GMT

Last Friday I went to PC92 (that's the Australian computer show, in
Melbourne last week). IBM had a HUGE stand, made up of GIANT OS/2 boxes
stretching up to the ceiling. They were throwing OS/2 at people for $99
(normally about $160) and at one stage had 4 people serving at the sales
counter and were still undermanned!

There were people from Lotus and other companies around showing off the
OS/2 apps (apparently Lotus is bringing out one mega-huge package later
in the year, spreadsheet, word processor and something else, all 32bit
in one package).

I was very impressed with the DEMO. They had a PS/2 with XGA running
Wing Commander 2 in a 256 colour window with a video playing in the
corner and a couple of other apps around. They were switch WC2 from
window to full screen effortlessly and I haven't seen ANYTHING as fast
as that coing out of OS/2. That machine was flying (no pun intended).
That hardware combination was awesome.

One very interesting thing one of their guys told me was that in
November (IBM US says september, so OZ say November :-) they will be
doing a complete product replacement for the 32bit engine and WIN3.1
support (among other things). It is not an upgrade, nor is it a CSD, but
a complete replacement - Don't know how they plan to do it.


One very amusing anecdote: When walking past the Microsoft stand
(demonstrating 3.1 - no NT in sight - and if I see another mahcine
playing WIN3.1 solitaire again I will smash it. We got so sick of it we
started deleting it from machines or making it run minesweeper instead
:-). Anyway, walking past the MS stand, one of the demonstrators opened
a cupboard to get something out of the back of the stand, and what shuld
I see, but a PC running OS/2! I was very amused. I made a comment about
MS running OS/2 and she mumbled something under her breath abou it not
being a problem. I thought it was very funny.


-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 384k reserved
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:08:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug10.145802.17413@tron.bwi.wec.com> eikenber@tron.bwi.wec.com (Daniel E. Eikenberry Jr.) writes:
>IF OS/2 can't access that 384k, is there a way to make it accessible?
>If not can I enable the hardware switch to copy ROM to RAM.  If I did ,
>what would happen with OS/2?  I assume something nasty.

Yes, you can enable ROM shadowing.  As a matter of fact, you should if
you can't use the memory for anything else.  I do on mine, since I
can't disable the 128K BIOS/Video ROM allocation.  Doing this will
make it unnecessary to use the DOS settings to shadow ROMs in each
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cvadrtbc@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: OS/2 ini files
Organization: California Polytechnic University, Pomona
Summary: Ini files growing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: OS/2, ini
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:17:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug14.163646.432@unlinfo.unl.edu>, wmammel@hoss.unl.edu (Bill Mammel) writes...
>I've discovered that my OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI files are growing huge.
>In fact, the OS2SYS.INI file has grown 60K in the last 10 hours of uptime.
>Right now, it's about 192K.  It seems to contain all sorts of information
>from the WPS that I have deleted.  It also looks like it has duplicates of
>the same "entry" for a WPS object.
> 
>Any ideas as to what's causing this?  I'd like to get it back down to
>a more "reasonable" size.
> 
>I have tried to back it up with WPSBackup but WPSBackup backs up the
>extraneous information as well.

You could try getting SHOWINI or INIEDIT to edit out the extraneous
parts of your file.  I'm beginning to think that DOS icons that you
assign to programs are stored in the *.INI files and not the EA's as
I thought.  One of my DOS programs has NO EAs, but I assigned an icon
to it.  Anyone know where the icon is stored?  Thanks.

Srikanth
From: jc70@westend.VI.CMU.EDU (Joo C. Chung)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SET FILEC under OS/2 2.0???
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:44:37 GMT
Reply-To: jc70@norman.vi.ri.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug20.142903.16489@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel  
A) writes:
> In article <1992Aug20.081508.28238@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>  
parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
> >Stephenson Daniel A (das9674@usl.edu) wrote:
> >> Hi there.  Is there something akin to set filec for OS/2 2.0?
> >> THis is also know as 'file completion'.  Those 255 char names
> >> are great, but wildcards don't always do the trick...
> >
> >4OS2 provides such functionality.
> 
> Ah, I've heard of this '4OS2'.  In brief, what else does it do better than  
the
> supplied shell?
> -Thanks-
> >Tom J Parry.
> >Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
> 
> 
> --
> Dan Stephenson das9674@usl.edu 
> "Is it that Blake has a genius for leadership, or merely that *you* have a 
>  genius for being led?" -Avon, from Blakes 7                           

4OS2 also provides:
	1) filename completion
	2) description of files
	3) history window
	4) built in list command
	5) ability to set colors
	6) a host of new variables and batch functions
	7) history command completion
	etc......



Joo
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Needs a Supervisor mode!
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:23:19 GMT
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York

In article <mcdonald.211@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.001819.14010@unixg.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>
>>Well, some people have complained about OS/2 not having multiuser capabilities
>>out of the box, but I think IBM should include a "Supervisor" or "root"
>>mode, and a "User" mode as a bare minimum. A "restricted" mode would also
>>be nice.
>
>You want Unix, or, even better, VMS or an IBM or Unisys mainframe operating 
>system.

You may not want to use them, but I also want OS/2 3.0 to have these features.
Hopefully IBM will use the Mach kernel, and add some real security features.
I live in a dorm, and other people use my machine...including my brother.
The fact is, even you could make a mistake, and mess up the system while trying
to do something else.  By the way, where I work, at the Barnard College Library
, we even add "supervisor mode" to Macs running system 6!  A utility called
"Guard Dog" prevents systemwide modifications without a password.  Don't tell
me that this is asking for UNIX!  In my opinion, OS/2 almost matches UNIX in
many ways, already!  I am very happy to be running emacs and gcc under OS/2.
I am running OS/2 because it multitasks my DOS and Windows programs, as well
as multithreaded OS/2 programs.  Which UNIX version were you suggesting that
I buy?  Which one costs $99 from DOS?  I have a 386/40, and I believe UNIX is
more limiting than OS/2 2.0, for my system.  By the way, what do you have
against adding features to OS/2?  I really think that this would expand its
market, and IBM would reap the benefits.

:-), and let me know when you find a UNIX that is better than OS/2!
I know a lot of people who will be interested.

Thanks.
Meir

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From: joe2@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:05:36 FST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Win NT support in OS/2
Reply-To: <joe2@vnet.ibm.com>
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <1992Aug12.171206.305@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Douglass Thornton Lamb writes:
>   ^stuff deleted:
>  (All this is, of course, moot if I don't get my Win 3.1
>  support on the September CSD...)
>
>Doug Lamb
>University of Virginia
>dtl8v@Virginia.EDU
>
>

Sorry, but there is no official statement that IBM will
release a CSD (or 'service pack' or whatever) in September...


-Joel Armengaud

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: 1280x1024x16 colors with os/2!!!
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:23:31 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

The $6000 pricetag for the IBM 1280x1024x16 display includes both the
(intelligent) adapter with 3meg ram *and* the 19" color display.

Presumably these items can also be bought by college students at a
substantial discount.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
---
Given Civil Seizure, from the DEA's point of view, winning the War on
Drugs would be killing the Goose that lays golden eggs.

It's also hard to tell which group is up to more no-good: cops or
crooks.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Subject: Re: emtex
Keywords: emtex
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:57:48 GMT

In article <4366@drsrv1.hmi.de> pfr@drsrv1.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang) writes:
> 
>There is no need to generate additional fonts. I have the set of
>fonts for the HP laserjet in the default directory and I understand
>that the lj.cnf configuration file tells the program where to search.


I haven't looked at the EmTeX package, but is there a way for it
to use PostSript fonts (soft or printer resident)? I don't want to 
clog my hard disk with bitmap fonts that only TeX can use.

I either want to get Adobe Type 1 or 3 fonts that are Computer Modern,
or (better yet) replace them with true Adobe Type 1 fonts like Times, Helvetica
(or even Utopia, since it's free).

This would simplify dvipm, since it could let ATM handle the fonts.
>
>Wolfgang Fritsch
>HMI Berlin
>pfr@psun2.hmi.de
>


-- 
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