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From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Re: Yog-Sothoth
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:29:17 GMT

In article <17h754INNdl4@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:

>       Yog-Sothoth is one of the Old Ones from
>       Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, and is summoned
>       to Earth when someone needs to be devoured
>       in a particularly horrible fashion, or for
>       dramatic effect.

>       I haven't read Needful Things.  In what
>       context was it used?


>____________________________________________________________________
>"common human laws and interests     "I wouldn't exactly call it a
> and emotions have no validity        a happy dogma, but it makes me
> or signifigance in the vast          feel better about not 
> cosmos-at-large..."                  getting laid..."
>               -HP Lovecraft                 -R. Carter
>____________________________________________________________________


>                  jacob@sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu


>               _/_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/_/   _/
>                _/           _/           _/
>                _/           _/           _/
>                _/_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/_/   _/
>                        _/           _/   _/
>                        _/           _/   _/
>                _/_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/_/
                  ^              
                Fancy

>	
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: The Stand
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:12:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.185534.9627@ra.oc.com> frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier) writes:
>I can't say much about Lovecraft because I have never read him, but Poe is
>one of the worst writers I have ever had to read. Every one of his works
>are really boring. Steven King is much,much,much better than Poe IMO and The
>Stand is one of the best books I have ever read. I don't understand this
>fascination with Poe because if he was really any good they wouldn't make
>you read him in school. The only author I have ever had to read in school
>that was any good is Twain.   
>
>Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)

Oh please! So you were forced to read Poe in school, and hated the experience.
He is still one of the originators of the whole Horror genre, and I personally
think that history will look upon him with more fondness than Stephen King.
Poe was a tormented Alcoholic, and lucky for us that he was able to 
spew his torment across the printed page with such style. Without Poe,
we would never have had Stephen King. < who I do enjoy, but not in the 
same league as Poe. Sorry.>

Twain is the only author you ever had to read in school that you liked,
interesting. I take it you either hated or never had to read Shakespeare,
Melville, Joyce, or any of the other authors that make up the ouevre of
"Classic Literature".      

					--Judex--


Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale)
Subject: Re: Vampire advise
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:51:36 GMT

Steve,

	As far as movies go, I don't know of too many that are really "A"
raters.  I enjoyed TO DIE FOR, but it was definitely "C" material.  You
might try PALE BLOOD.  It rates about a "B".

	If you are really into vampires, consider subscribing to the
VAMPYRES ListServ.  I don't have the address handy, but if anyone's interested
I'll be sure to have it handy next time I log in.

Robin of Riverdale

-- 
"Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us."
                                                          --  Tolstoy
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: whitley@mksol.dseg.ti.com (harlon whitley 952-2342)
Subject: Castle Rock Newsletter!         
Followup-To: Nothing
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:42:39 GMT

I was wondering if any of you KING fans know of how
to receive the "Castle Rock" newsletter.  Please
e-mail me any information you might have.

Thanks!
Harlan

whitley@sunscm1.dseg.ti.com
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Looking for Hellraiser info
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Aug30.172044.17765@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@shark.micro.umn.
edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>
>"The Hellbound Heart" is the story that Barker wrote for the movie. He adapted
>it for his script, and it is very close to "Hellraiser"
>"Hellraiser 2" has nothing to do with Barker or "Hellbound Heart". Closer
>to the book? I don't think so...
>
>						--Judex--

Finally!  I've been trying to remember where I first saw "The Hellbound Heart" 
and it finally hit me.  The was an anthology series called Night Visions 1-4
and later each name was changed to Night Visions: (Title of lead story here).
If I remember correctly, it was Night Visions 3: The Hellbound Heart where
the story first appeared - WAY before the original movie came out.  After the
movie took off, _The Hellbound Heart_ was reprinted as a short novel.
(Although I never read the novella to see if it was different.)  If anyone 
wants the exact date it was published, I'll look it up.

Personally, I thought the opening scences in the sequel were the only
similarities between the book and that movie.

BTW, it's always bothered me that I never found one of the books in that 
series.  If anyone has the one edited by Charles Grant, I'd love to buy
it.  While I'm at it, ditto for _Shadows 7_, again edited by him.  (Only
one I'm missing there too.)
						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"
From: wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Shirley Jackson
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:12:59 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug28.073100.11571@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at writes:
>
>I am reading a book by Shirley Jackson "The Lottery", a 1947-compilation of
>short-stories. Not what a lot of you out there would consider to be "real"
>horror, but very irritating and disturbing. The stories are mostly about
>loneliness and the unability to build up relationships. Highly
>recommended. Anybody out there, who read her stuff?
>
>    - Oliver
>
>"I never drink ... wine." (The Count)

Yesyesyes!  I love "The Haunting of Hill House".  It's a very spooky book
and one of the few books I've read that was actually made into a very good
and effective horror movie.  Rent it!

My favorite work of hers, however, is "We Have Always Lived In the Castle".
I think this is more atmospheric than "Hill House" and very enjoyable.

BTW, I think she wrote a very funny short story.  It's about a little kid
who is always making trouble and when his parents ask him why, he says he is
only doing what his friend Frederick did in school.  Eventually the parents
go to see his teacher, and are told that there is no Frederick there.  Has
anyone else read this and is it Jackson's?  What is its title?
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: answers to laurel
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:35:31 GMT
Organization: none

In article <4842@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.094600.10593@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at writes:
>>To answer your questions:
>>1. most definitly read Tabitha King's "The Trap". It's a very "female"
>>horror story  about a woman and her kid caught in a very King-like
>>scenario (house in a remote recreation resort in ... yeah, you guessed
>>it, ... MAINE|, end of the season, nobody else around, except some
>>2. "American Psycho" (Bret Easton Ellis): Now this is definitly a sick
>>Read it. Very irritating. I read it twice, and I still don't know
>>whether it's good or not.
>>3. "Red Dragon" (Harris). Read it. A wonderful characterization of
>>the serial killer from next door. This book was made into a nice,
>>4. What about the "Lawnmower Man"?
>
>Thanks for the info! I think "Red Dragon" was made into a movie called
>"Manhunter" in the U.S. which I have seen. I liked it but not as much as I
>liked "Silence of the Lambs". The short story in King's "Night Shift" called
>'The Lawnmower Man' was eerie and I liked it, but I haven't seen the movie and
>I am afraid to because of all of the bad things I've heard (esp. that it has
>very little to do with the story bearing the same name)!
>
>			Laurel
> 
>__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________
>
>Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
>laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
>                                                  there in the light---
>(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
> the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
>						        for "Cape Fear"
>						 
>_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
>
>

"The Lawnmower Man" had NOTHING to do with King's story. Apart from that
offensive bit, I liked the film. It ran through a lot of rather stupid
cliches, and wasn't all that scary for most of it's length, but I enjoyed
the Virtual Reality theme, and the exceptional Graphics/special effects.
It is best viewed in a reasonable theatre, sitting fairly close to the screen,
for full effect. I liked Pierce Brosnan as the semi-crazed scientist, too.
<IMHO, of course>

					--Judex--
From: cullhane@medusa.itc.gu.edu.au (Cullhane Gibbs)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Hellraiser III looks a little dodgy....
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:08:22 GMT
Reply-To: cullhane@medusa.UUCP (Cullhane Gibbs)
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia

Greetings,

I must say that I too am hanging out for HEllraiser 3 and Evil Dead 3 "The 
Army of Darkness". I will be incredibly dissapointed if either of these two
films are ....... disappointing. I too must say I have some bad vibes about
Hellraiser 3 after hearing that Barker's involvement with the film is very
limited. I also read somehwere that the guy directing it has [previous
credits including Waxworks & Sundown (perhaps credit is too strong a word)
these films aren't too bad but didn't reach Hellraiser 1's epic standards. I
think i read this in Cinematique. Having said this, Evil Dead 3 looks
awesome, something to definitely look forward to.

		Salutations,
				Cully
From: cs65+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chiara Noelle Sposato)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: GOOD horror films (was Bad horror films ... why?)
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:22:08 GMT
	<10713166.21.715394717@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>
Organization: Junior, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.alt.horror: 2-Sep-92 Re: GOOD horror films (was ..
ROHAN TREGEAR@eng2.eng.m (1180)

In article <1992Aug28.185028.3995@nmsu.edu> pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe
Pfeiffer) writes:
>In-Reply-To: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu's message of 22 Aug 92 08:04:03 GMT
>In article <174sdjINN7og@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu
(Isaac Truder) writes:
>
>
>   I think more interesting would be a discussion of what people
consider those
>   few GOOD horror movies.  Maybe not timeless classics necessarily, but ones
>   you certainly wouldn't mind watching if they were on opposite a political
>   convention.  My own list of good horror movies (at least ones I can think
>   off of the top of my head):
>
>The only movie that has ever scared me was, ``Angel Heart.''  I enjoy
>lots of horror movies -- but generally for comedy value.  AH I enjoyed
>for exactly the opposite reason...
>
>-Joe.
>Yeah, I really liked "Angel Heart" too. Copious amounts of spookiness. >Left 
>me saying WHOA! at the end. I found it in the ACTION section of my >video 
>library, though...
>Actually, as vamp flicks go, I thought "Fright Night (I & II)", "Near >Dark" 
>and "The Hunger" were pretty good. For something different I would >choose a 
>"Hellraiser" or perhaps "House III" as good horrors.

 >- Trigger


how about some psychological and sexual vampire movies like "Dance of
the Damed" and "Graveyard Shift 1&2" all are very good. 
i also saw one called "Pale Blood" but it wasn't very good at all.
also for good B-movie horror check out anything by Full Moon
Video.(however Trancers and Netherland were pretty poor, IMO)

chiara
From: v076r95v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Nature Boy)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Anne Rice: "Tale of the Body Thief"
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <71967@apple.Apple.COM>, diane@Apple.COM (Diane Patterson) writes...
> 
>According to a quick blurb in "Entertainment Weekly" this week, in
>"The Tale of the Body Thief," Lestat a)becomes human and b)engages in
>unsafe sex with a woman. I have no idea what their sources are....
> 
>	-- Diane

	OH GOD!!!  I hope this is not what the book is about!!  If so, what the
hell is the point of reading it?!  I thought that Queen of the Damned was bad
enough as it is.  What is the big deal if Lestat turns human??  So they could
kill him or something?  I don't get it.  Someone please tell me this is a big
joke.  If it is not, I feel sorry for all Anne Rice fans, including me.
					PHOENIX
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From: 10713166@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ROHAN TREGEAR)
Subject: Re: GOOD horror films (was Bad horror films ... why?)
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:45:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.185028.3995@nmsu.edu> pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:
>In-Reply-To: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu's message of 22 Aug 92 08:04:03 GMT
>In article <174sdjINN7og@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder) writes:
>
>
>   I think more interesting would be a discussion of what people consider those
>   few GOOD horror movies.  Maybe not timeless classics necessarily, but ones
>   you certainly wouldn't mind watching if they were on opposite a political
>   convention.  My own list of good horror movies (at least ones I can think
>   off of the top of my head):
>
>The only movie that has ever scared me was, ``Angel Heart.''  I enjoy
>lots of horror movies -- but generally for comedy value.  AH I enjoyed
>for exactly the opposite reason...
>
>-Joe.
Yeah, I really liked "Angel Heart" too. Copious amounts of spookiness. Left 
me saying WHOA! at the end. I found it in the ACTION section of my video 
library, though...
Actually, as vamp flicks go, I thought "Fright Night (I & II)", "Near Dark" 
and "The Hunger" were pretty good. For something different I would choose a 
"Hellraiser" or perhaps "House III" as good horrors.

 - Trigger
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Movie Id needed
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:15:51 GMT

In article <BtMw1p.F2v@wpi.WPI.EDU> avif@maxine.wpi.edu (Avram Finkel) writes:
>Just tonight, I was watching _Terror in the Isles_, sort of an on-screen essay
>on horror in film throughout human history(or at least since there's been 
>movies).  In it, I saw a clip of a movie I think I may have seen, but I can't 
>remember the name of.  It went sorta like this.
>
>There's this guy in the shower, and he's singing a song.  Through the 
>	[stuff deleted]

I know!  I know!  It's Brian DePalma's _Phantom of the Paradise_!

Truly great movie!  One of my all time favorites . . . 

"But I'm innocent!  Swann stole my music and framed me!"

	-- Stewart "dearly wants the soundtrack to PotP" Tame

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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale)
Subject: Re: Alt.Vampyres
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:13:31 GMT

Alt.Vampyres is an excellent idea.  Consider your petition signed!

-- 
Lady Robin of Riverdale

"Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for the
   appointment of the corrupt few"
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: Alt.Vampyres
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:49:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

Alt.Vampyres has my heart felt vote... yea!
-- 
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From: ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: To Mike Kaufman: concerning Hellraiser
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:04:34 GMT
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK


     Barker wrote and directed the original Hellraiser which was from his
novella, "The Hellbound Heart." (available from Waldenbooks if you ask really
nicely)
     Hellraiser II was directed by Peter Atkins (correct me if I'm wrong) and
produced by Barker.  There is a Hellraiser graphic novel/semi monthly comic
that has original stories with Clive Barker as consultant.  Many of these are
VERY good and I can recommend Hellraiser issue III which has an original story
by Peter Atkins.
     If you liked it you MAY like Nightbreed, also written/directed by Barker,
which is kind of a monster mythology.  Enjoy!


ntraven  (by the way, see RE-Animator if you haven't already)

--
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Hysterically penned short story
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:21:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.143623.29978@access.digex.com> rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale) writes:
>I just bought a copy of a horror anthology called TALES BY MOONLIGHT II.
>While scanning the table of contents last night I found this little gem:
>
>	"The Eldritch horror of Oz"  by L. Frank Craftlove
>
>There is no indication anywhere in the book to who the real author of this
>piece really is (I assumed that the name in the copyright notice was an 
>agent, perhaps I was wrong).  
>
>I haven't read it yet, but my curiosity is now peaked!!!
>

So's mine!  Give us a full report . . .

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and the Easter Bunny.
From: diane@Apple.COM (Diane Patterson)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Anne Rice: "Tale of the Body Thief"
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:42:26 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


According to a quick blurb in "Entertainment Weekly" this week, in
"The Tale of the Body Thief," Lestat a)becomes human and b)engages in
unsafe sex with a woman. I have no idea what their sources are....

	-- Diane
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dv2ed08@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ron Jay)
Subject: Re: mistake on back cover of "IT"
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 17:47:18 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <92244.204506TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> Another mistake (I think) in IT is a part (can't say exactly where, maybe a lit
|> tle more than half way thru) where someone is remembering a bit about a "very
|> scared Victor Criss" approaching them in a park/playground.  I think Vic did
|> this to warn the losers that Henry was quite insane and was going to proceed
|> beyond hurting them to killing them.  But King never gets around to telling
|> that part of the story.  It seems like a slip up to me, but I could be wrong.
|> Maybe it was just one of those ambiguous things King never gets around to telli
|> ng us more about on purpose...

    This has always bothered me.  I wonder if King didn't write it and
then decide to edit it out?  1100 pages is enough for even SK...

Jared Dahl
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Dracula - v1.0
Reply-To: gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:15:44 GMT

In article <0095FB1C.BB034EE0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.174348.8528@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, paxton@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>Has anyone out there actually READ Bram Stocker's "Dracula". Following my
>>recent query concerning J Harker's escape from D's castle Not one reply came
>
>Yes, I've read the original.  I'm new to the group...what was the question?  I
>haven't read the book in a few years, but it's on my shelf at home.  As I
>recall, it closely parallels the Frank Langella movie version, if that helps.
>
This is not what I meant.  I think I meant that I read it after this particular
movie version was released.  

>Cheryl oopcv@trex.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Vampyres and more
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<iroderic.714873721@cunews> <6920@stan.xx.swin.oz.au>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:24:40 GMT

In article <6920@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:

	  As I understand it, a corpse (though dead) still undergoes many chemical
	reactions internally.  One of many such reactions is an enzyme reaction,
	that results in the growth of hair and finger-nails.  Thus, when coffins
	were opened the corpse had displayed signs of further life -- the
	fingernails and hair growth sited as one example.

	  Another reason for the vampyre myth arizes from corpse decompisition.  
	Various internal decompisition within the body (lungs I assume) can result
	in gases forcing blood out of the mouth, thus providing blood-stains on
	the head (primarily the mouth region).  This, too, would be assumed to be
	more such proof.

I would suggest Barber, Paul, \fIVampires, burial, and death:  folklore
and reality\fR, New Haven:  Yale University Press, 1988.

Lots and lots and lots of stuff like this...  the hair and fingernails
don't grow, by the way, the skin recedes.

-Joe.