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From: am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns News - 1st qtr review - Steeler preview
Date: 12 Oct 1992 02:14:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada)
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In a previous article, tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) says:

>(Pages and pages of mindless ramblings and crap about the browns deleted.)
>
>Why don't you smell what you're shoveling.  The browns don't stand a chance
>against the STEELERS.  To paraphrase Dave:
>
> "The Steelers are going to chew them up and shit them out browner than their
> name suggests."

Well, now we know who shit on who? Don't we.. Cleveland 17 Pitt. 9

Alex
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From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Wild cards
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:11:11 GMT

tw> Tom Wolf

tw> I still think something is wrong with the playoff system. I don't like the
    conference-division setup. It allows teams with poorer records to get into
    the playoffs and leads to fans saying my conference is better than yours.
    Just take the top 16 teams and have them slug it out.

  So how do you schedule games, if divisions and conferences don't exist? A
  27-game season? The team with the most remaining uninjured players wins?

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From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: eagles
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:33:42 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Oct12.185201.17085@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.171240.26046@crd.ge.com> grundusk@sunflare.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kevin Grunduski) writes:
>>Everybody is so high on the eagles ... how many playoff games have they won in 
>>the last 3 years? The regular season doesn't mean squat if you can't get it done
>>when it counts.
> 
> Well, it is a good sign to notice others are in alignment with my
> views in "..doesn't mean squat...". :-) Another bird was dunked
> in boiling water and its feathers plucked clean.
> -- 
>   ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
>   Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
>   of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain

	Ah, but that was under the Buddy Ryan regime that tended to hit late,
and play like a bunch of 250lb sixth graders.  Under Kotite last year, and
Carson last year, the Defense became the best, something Ryan's dumb 86 system
prevented.  The team has matured.  The 0-3 in the playoffs was from a team that
never showed much maturity.  This season, the Eagles are showing much more
maturity, and have a rushing attack for the first time in God-knows-how-long. 
They are using intelligent systems, and Cunningham is back, unlike last year. 
The Eagles are starting faster than they ever have under Ryan.
	All, and all, this year they look like a complete team, where as in
years past, they have been the Randall/Kieth/and Kieth show on offense.  This
year, more people are involved, Cunningham has shown himself to be a better
passer than he ever was before.   All and all, they seem to finally be on the
right track towards getting something going playoff wise.
	Before John Gloria and his flame parade responds to this, let me just
say that John is very simply one of those people who knows squat about
something, finds a Bboard that actually cares about what other people think,
and then gets into flamewars.  John certainly deserves his right to speak, but
he is doing this for 1 reason, and one reason only.  To get a rise out of
people.  I suspect John leads a shallow life behind his terminal, as it seems
he never leaves the net.  Let us stop going to pieces over his stupidity.  Like
an obnoxious child, if we choose to ignore him, he will likely become
frustrated, and go away.
	-Skins fan with just one thing to say: "WAY TO GO MONK!!!"
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From: ak@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Kutschera)
Subject: Re: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Week 6 Predictions and Results
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:34:51 GMT

f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:

>Here are the computer program's Week 6 predictions and the results.
>The computer picked 8 of 11 games correctly, which is good.
>===
>
[most games deleted]
>
>       Houston        _38   31          Pittsburgh     _17   20
>
>     @ Cincinnati     _24   18        @ Cleveland      __9   16
                                                       ^^^^^
						       8 of 11?
						       Sure :-)
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From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
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Subject: Re: Eagle Feces
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:05:04 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct14.163521.13358@cs.ucf.edu>, tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
> In article <Bw2vx4.CGE@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>To Dough the Dolfan.....
>>
> 
> 
> Hey! Get it right Siv. It's dough THE Dolfan!
>                                       ^
> Tony (go new england) Travaglini
> tech@cs.ucf.edu
> 

      No, no, no. If your gonna woof, than woof with smarts. This is
how it should have been written:

                                  dough THE dolfan
                                            ^
                         -doug THE dolfan-
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From: drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Subject: Re: Don't give up on the Bills.
Reply-To: drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:11:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.020156.23865@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:
>I feel really sorry for the Raiders secondary after the whupping they shall
>occur on Sunday.  The Bills have a history of having a bad defeat followed by
>a severe thumping of the following opponent (does anyone remember the merciful
>42-6 win over Indianapolis last year?).  

Another poster depending on history.

>
>Even the quiet James Lofton hinted on a local news interview that the Bills
>were looking to light up the scoreboard (and they haven't in the past?).

I think less lights are used to show a 3 than to show a zero, so you might say
that they turned dimmed the scoreboard. :) :)

I won't bother with responding to the rest of the article except to say that
a team should never count on a win or look past their current opponent.

A Raider fan


>Bills fans or Bills haters, any comments, questions about the Bills?
>Just mail me anything if you want a direct response....
>
>FROM AN AVID BILLS FAN (I.E. i LIVE AND DIE BY THEM)
>
>IMRAN QURESHI


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Oilers waive receiver Harris
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 16 OCT 92 13:42:17    

In article <92289.16171332BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, 32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Nathan Owen) writes...

>Well the Packer now have two young talents to develop at the WR spot opposite
>Sharpe.  Robert Brooks of South Carolina, and Corey Harris of Vanderbilt.  Both
>were 3rd round draft picks.  I surprised Harris made this far up the waver
>wire to the Packers.  I would have expected Seattle or somebody else to pick
>him up.  I'm not complaining though... I'm starting to like this Ron Wolf guy.

I think the waver wire order is still the same as it was at the 
beginning of the season.  That'd make the Packers 5th.  Certainly it 
can't change on a weekly basis.

JGH
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From: kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary)
Subject: Re: POOL - Picks for Week #6 -- NOTE WEIGHTS
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:23:54 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division




 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[10] [ ] Atlanta		[x] Miami            
[7 ] [x] Philadelphia		[ ] Kansas City 
[7 ] [ ] Phoenix		[x] NY Giants        
[10] [x] San Francisco		[ ] New England
[7 ] [x] Pittsburgh		[ ] Cleveland     
[10] [ ] Seattle		[x] Dallas           
[7 ] [x] NY Jets		[ ] Indianapolis     
[5 ] [ ] Buffalo		[x] LA Raiders       
[5 ] [ ] Houston		[x] Cincinnati       
[7 ] [ ] LA Rams		[x] New Orleans      
[10] [ ] Denver			[x] Washington        
                               
Initials: ddk

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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Colts, ready to run wild!
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:29:49 GMT

No flames.  I don't know about the Colts going 9-7, but I think
that,  with George, they can be very competitive because that D
is capable of punishing the teams that they have to face.
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From: yslas@riverauswest.com ( Rob Yslas)
Subject: Re: John Elway's Comebacks.
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:00:09 GMT

In article <ld4a59INN934@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc) writes:
> In article 14300@vexcel.com, jic@vexcel.com (jic account for NAVY) writes:
> > 
> > Elway 4th Quarter Comebacks against NFC teams:
> > 
> > 1984 vs. New England
> > 1985 vs. Atlanta
> > 1985 vs. San Fransisco  *
             
> > 1987 vs. Green Bay
> > 1987 vs. Chicago        *
            
> > 1987 vs. New England
> > 1988 vs. San Fansisco   *
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > 1991 vs. New England
> > 1991 vs. Phoenix
> 
> I dunno, us Buffalo fans ain't too bright, but isn't New England
> in the AFC?????
> 

Gee, you are right that Buffalo fans aren't bright since New England does not
have a star next to it. :-)

-- 
yslas@advtech.uswest.com
Thanks
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Status of Packers' Darrell Thompson?
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:38:55 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <92286.14494032BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, Nathan Owen <32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes...

>Now the Darrell Thompson is back I think the Packers have to many
>fullacks.... that is if you believe Thompson is a fullack, which is what
>I believe he is most suited for.
> 
>They have Buford McGee, Harry Sidney, and Dexter McNabb (who I really think
>could be a good one).  Adding Thompson gives them four of them.  I really
>don't think they need all of them.  I hate to say it but they should release
>either McGee or Sidney.  They are both very similar in their skills,
>although I would favor keeping McGee because of his pure blocking skills,
>although Sidney is the better reciever.

Nah, just play Thompson at halfback.  As well as Vince Workman is 
doing you gotta wonder what Thompson could do now that the team has a 
coach who knows how to create a running game.

Not that I am a major Darrell Thompson fan but, let's face it, up 
until this year he was the best the Packers had.  Now Workman, who was 
mediocre at best up till now, is on track for a 1000 yard year a fan 
has a tendency to say 'forget Thompson'.  But there's no doubt that 
Thompson has much more speed and power than Workman.  Workman seems to 
have a better ability to find the hole.  I just really wonder what 
Thompson could do in the Packers' revitalized running game.  I think 
he'll do well.

JGH
From: chf0@roger.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Foolish Fish !!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:35:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ceylon.2998
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <152680008@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) writes:
>I can't believe all the Dolphin hype, they won one big game in a row. Last
>week was the first really good showing for their defense this season. It was
>also Marino's first good ( by the standard He set)game. To see all the
>talk of an undefeared season I think is really foolish.

Perhaps you could point out which Dolfans are talking about an
undefeated season. I haven't seen one, yet.

>This week they Play The Falcons and the game may be a cakewalk for the fish
>but if the real Marino and the real Miami defense show, We got the game in the
>bag.

The real Marino and the real Miami Defense did show up and we won.

Curt

--
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
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From: dmercer@oracle.com (David Mercer)
Subject: Re: Request: Highest Score in NFL history
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
	<1992Oct15.140324.8731@seq.uncwil.edu> <1565@niktow.canisius.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:55:07 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1565@niktow.canisius.edu> bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle) writes:
>And, I remember that Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets either beat or got beat by
>the score of 222-(something infinitely small)..

Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0

---DBM
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: EAGLES BEAT THE COWPUSSIES AND THATS ALL TO SAY..EXCEPT PREDICTIONS
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:35:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.015732.16853@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins) writes:

   ERVING,BARKLEY,BOL,HAWKINS,DAWKINS,GILLIAM,GRANT,SCHMIDT,ROSE,DYKSTRA,WHITE
   CUNNINGHAM,BARNETT,WILLIAMS,BROWN(R.I.P.),WALKER,BYERS,LYNDROSS,AND BEST OF ALL
   BUDDY RYAN (WE MISS YOU BUDDY)!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know, he's actually getting better.  By the end of the season, he might
manage to spell all of his idol's names right.

Bill


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	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: SchmEagles Fans
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:20:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Well, true to my predictions, the fans at Veterans Stadium truly proved 
themselves to be the biggest bunch of brain-dead idiotic morons on the face
of the planet.  Among the general objects pelted down onto the field: bottles,
food, heads of lettuce, beer cans etc.  Man, are you folks so obnoxious that
you don't realize that ... oh, say someone in the seats may get hit??
Next time, I'll bring my oozie ...

satish nair

PS to all those people who wanted the Cowboys to loose because you couldn;t
   stand the woofing ... you folks OBVIOUSLY aren't familiar with the typical
   Eagle fans (each and every one of the 4 years I've lived in Philly, they've
   hyped the Eagles are the ONLY Super Bowl contenders).
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Subject: Denver at Washington
From: S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:14:38 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

I just read in the paper that Washington was favored by 8 points in Mondays
game.  Does anyone really think that Washington is that good?  I know they are
playing at home but will that make a big difference?
 
                                                Murf
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns News - 1st qtr review - Steeler preview
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:34:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <1992Oct15.140646.3785@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>	Desoite dropping to 3-2, I still consider the Steelers a STRONG
>contender for the AFC Central crown.  They have a strong Running game, finally
>got rid of Bubby Brister, and a Defense that, if nothing else is opportunistic.
>If they find a passrush, or way to stop the run, the defense could surprise,
>and O'Donnell, young as he is, might have what it takes to get this team into
>the playoffs.
>	-Skins fan that has just one thing to say: "WAY TO GO MONK!!!"
   
   Pitt definitely has a decent team, but I can't see anyone finishing within
   two games of Houston. Moon, Jeffires, Givins and now Slaughter are all
   damn good players and I think this is the year where White busts out and
   goes to the Pro Bowl. The defense is underrated. 

   Just my $0.02,

   --salty


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From: pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil)
Subject: Re: John Elway's Comebacks.
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 20:10:01 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
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gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
: jg> John P. Gloria
: gs> Gary Strand
: 
: jg> All these "comebacks" really don't amount to a hill of beans!
: 
:   I bet Schottenheimer doesn't think so, nor do the Oilers. The Broncos (with
:   Elway) have cost the Browns and Oilers plenty when it comes to a chance at
:   the Big Show. His "hill of beans" has made him one of the winningest QBs in
:   the game today. As Elway says, the game ain't over 'til it's over, and I'm
:   sure Schottenheimer would agree.
: 

AN OPEN MESSAGE TO JOHN P. GLORIA

Let's look at this a bit more rationally.  Gary had 28 games listed where John
Elway had come from behind 4th quarter victories.  (The Denver Post and The 
Rocky Mountain News had 31 games listed).  Since this is Elway's 10th season in
the league, that amounts to approximately 3 come from behind wins a year.  This
is the difference in going 8-8 and missing the playoffs and going 11-5 and 
making the playoffs.  That is an example of where these victories do amount to 
a "hill of beans".  So f**k you very much!

--Pranav "Forever a Bronco/Buff Fan" Vakil 
  (On Saturday, my blood runs black and gold --- GO BUFFS)
  (On Sunday, my blood runs orange and blue --- GO BRONCOS)

: 
: --
: Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
: strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Were the Lions overrated?
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:52:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: olivea.56551
Distribution: na
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Oct16.154243.19291@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>on offense?  The "Run-n-Shoot" or whatever you call it caught some teams by
>surprise, but they don't do that anymore.  Ball is great on defense, but
>who else do they have?  Spielman is a ferocious player, but he is very
>small.

The poor run n shoot. No matter what it gets blamed for everything. Last 
2 years the defense was letting down the offense and people blamed it on  
the run n shoot, and now this year when they have been staying away from
the run n shoot it still gets blamed.

They only recently went back to the run n shoot, the problem is they lost
Andolsek and the other guy whose name I forget at the moment, and their
ofensive line just cannot open holes for Barry anymore.





Russ Smith
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Humpty Dumpty was pushed!

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From: dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel Scott Janecek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Viking's Bet!
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:59:58 GMT
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From vn Wed Oct 14 16:52:21 1992
Subject: Re: Vikings Prediction through 1992
Reply-To: dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>> 
>>        Oct 15 DETROIT      Thursday night game
>>The Lions will come out full steam, wanting to prove that they still
>>can compete with the division leader.  They will jump up 7-0, and
>>then their weak offensive line will get tired.  Vikings lead at
>>the half and never look back.  Vikings by 13 (23-7) 
> 
> You Vikings fans are doing a lot of woofing lately.  So you seem
> to think Minnesota will win by 13 or 16, depending upon whether
> your math or typing skills need improvement.  Tell ya what.  You
> give me 10 points and we'll have a net bet.  Loser publicly proclaims
> that he knows nothing about football.  What say?
> 

	Well, I did not post the original article, but if you want to
bet, I will give you the Las Vegas line (I think Vikes by 5 1/2). I
NEVER claimed to know much about football to begin with, so I have
nothing to lose. I just enjoy the Vikings success so far this year,
esp. living in Packer Land! I will gladly woof along with any other
Viking fan out there, so IF you want the Vegas line, your on. 

				dan

From vn Wed Oct 14 16:56:04 1992
Subject: Re: Vikings Prediction through 1992
Reply-To: dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

From article <14OCT199212313309@venus.lerc.nasa.gov>, by smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Morris ):
> Eric Sybesma writes...
>>Well, I thought I would jump on the predictions bandwagon and
>>forecast the remainder of the Minnesota Vikings' games.
>> 
>>        Oct 15 DETROIT      Thursday night game
>>The Lions will come out full steam, wanting to prove that they still
>>can compete with the division leader.  They will jump up 7-0, and
>>then their weak offensive line will get tired.  Vikings lead at
>>the half and never look back.  Vikings by 13 (23-7) 
> 
> You Vikings fans are doing a lot of woofing lately.  So you seem
> to think Minnesota will win by 13 or 16, depending upon whether
> your math or typing skills need improvement.  Tell ya what.  You
> give me 10 points and we'll have a net bet.  Loser publicly proclaims
> that he knows nothing about football.  What say?
> 


	Well, I did not post the original article, but if you want to
bet, I will give you the Las Vegas line (I think Vikes by 5 1/2), your
on. I NEVER admitted knowing anything at all about football to begin
with, so I have nothing to lose. I just enjoy the Vikes success this
year, especially living in Packer Land! I will gladly pronounce my
faith and like for the Vikings anytime. SO, if your willing to take
the Vegas line, you have a bet...


				dan
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What the fuck is the Bills problem?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:53:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

Their fans use vulgar language.
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