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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Concession stand braw
Date: 15 Nov 92 11:58:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

Sean,

SPR>1992 (mid-January), Kennett, Missouri - this one involved the Moondogs
   >vs. Jeff Jarrett and someone whose name escapes me - I don't know too
   >much about this one, other than it took place.

How can Jerry Lawler's name escape you?

Luckily, most of the folks got to see this on the rectape.  It was truly
wild.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . Beat me, whip me, make me read my mail online
From: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Keywords: Best looking woman
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:42:35 GMT
Reply-To: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX

Chris Adam's wife Toni should be at the top of this least easily.

Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: [WWF] Perfect as a face
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15: 40:56 -0600
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:40:56 GMT
Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15: 39:51 CST


The Hairfarmer writes:

> How about that!!  Never in my life did I think perfect would ever
> become a "good guy."

He's been a face in 95% of the matches I've seen him wrestle in.  I've
still been trying to adjust to him as a heel.

Wish I had taped PrimeTime.  Haven't watched PrimeTime in abour six 
months.

		--Otto "Hack Hogan" Heuer

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From: bdwest@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA)
Subject: Re: PERFECT TEAMS w/ SAVAGE
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:47 EST  

In article <mike_steiner-171192155912@192.35.50.131>, mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes...
>In article <1992Nov17.051307.2213@news.nd.edu>,
>ckennedy@grousy.helios.nd.edu (chris kennedy) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <Nov.16.22.56.28.1992.4332@pilot.njin.net> langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein) writes:
>> >It was announced 5 minutes ago, Perfect is replacing the Warrior as
>> >the Macho Man's partner in Survivor Series. I was told that the
>> >Warrior asked for too much money and was fired [again].
>> >-- 
>> Since I missed all but the last 2-3 minutes of the Macho-Henning-Flair/Ramone
>> interview, does anyone have any guesses as to which of the two most likely
>> scenarios they will play.
>> 
>> 1) Face turn by Henning, Flair called him by his real name and this could lead
>> to a Henning-Flair or Henning-Ramone fued.
>> 
>> 2) Fake turn by Henning which ends up with a triple team on Savage and a 
>> save by 	a) Hogan
>> 		b) Backlund
>> 		c) Hart
>> or some other face that needs a big push.
>> 
>>
 Here's one no one has considered, a semi-heel turn for Savage.  Granted 
this is way to inventive for Sir Vince, but as long as were talking 
possibities.

The Catwoman has spoken.
	What kind of financial advisor are you?  
	Give me a hundred dollars and I'll so ya - Heenan.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 16:22:10 EST
From: <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: THINKING LOGICALY abot Perfect/Savage

How about these signs:

--Hell no!  We don't want no ICOPRO!!

--Where's Barry Horowitz??

--Yokozuna!  NOT!!

--If that damn clown comes near me I will puke!!

--Ha! Ha! You paid 30 dollars to watch THIS!?

--Elizabeth lives in a shack in Maine with Iron Mike Sharpe

--Erik Watts could beat you all!!
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From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan T2 Wen)
Subject: Re: One more Clash thought
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:54:32 GMT

In article <By1M4z.AF3@rice.edu> jesse@masc.rice.edu (Jesse Elliott Money) writes:
>
>Back in the old Mid-South days, Joel, not Erik, Watts did some color work and
>put together a few video clips.

Thanks for the correction.  I have only vague memories of the Mid-South days.
BUT....  they both suck.  :)))
-- 
__________  ______
  _|       _\      Stan T2 Wen    wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
  _|     _____/                     chimera@minds.bsd.uchicago.edu
  _|    ________      "I think it was his eye, cold and blue like a vulture's."
From: v124jw4y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WWF] House show in Kitchener Ontario 12/11/92
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov14.203420.8883@ac.dal.ca>, jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes...


>What does a tiger have to do AT ALL with Savage? A tiger is a savage and
>Savage is the Macho Man's last name (allegedly :-)



Now making his way to the ring...from Sarasota, Florida, here is...THE "MACHO
MAN", RAAAANNNDY....umm...Poffo?


:)
                                                 --Ben
From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Reminder: Clash of Champions is Tonight!
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:00:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


   I haven't seen anyone mention the Clash this week so I decided to post
 this reminder.

   Has everyone given up on WCW or what?

-Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Some WCW Stuff On My Mind
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:46:28 GMT

In <By040L.CxJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:

>here's my pipe dream: let Gunn and Zenk hang around for awhile as faces, then
>one Saturday Night team them with Ron Simmons vs. say, Pillman, Austin and
>Rude.  In the middle of the match, have somebody like Kevin Sullivan come
>out, face paint and all, and order Gunn and Zenk to attack Simmons.  Of
>course, with Sullivan's satanic influence, they do.  Only they don't just 
>attack him.  Sullivan pulls lighter fluid from his trunks and Zenk and Gunn
>douse Simmons.  Then, Sullivan lights a match and makes like he's going to

[Eric's obsession with fire begins...deleted]


>champ on national TV! I don't believe it!"  Next week, Zenk and Gunn show up
>with half their heads shaved and wearing face make-up.  They begin throwing
>fire balls ino everyone's face (refs, jobbers, Ross) over a period of weeks
>and talking about sending selected faces "to burn in hell".  Suddenly, you've

[Eric's obsession with fire continues...deleted]

>30  seconds.  Now, if a *fire match* won't get your buy rate up, you might 
>as well start selling shoes for a living.


Couple of things Eric:

1) Hand over that pack of matches NOW!!

2) The local authorities have been contacted. It's for your own good,
you know.

<grin>

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
Subject: Re: PERFECT TEAMS w/ SAVAGE
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:37:05 GMT

Do you guys remember during the first few weeks that Flair turned up in
the WWF and Ric Flair was having an interview on the Funeral Parlour ?

Flair said: (something close to) "Hogan, after I beat up in front of
everybody...I'll prove to the world that you are the number 2 wrestler."

Perfect : "No No No...number three!!!"

Flair: "Oh yes...number three. WHOOOOO!!!"

Loved that.

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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: SS Showdown
Keywords: results wanted
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:01:31 GMT

  Three things:

  1) Could someone please post the resul of SS Showdown?

  2) If anyone is going to the WCW show on Thanksgiving night (with
    Thundercage), could they post the results.

  3) I will gone for Thanksgiving break, so next weekend I will not be posting
     the Wrestling Challenge and Wrestling Superstars updates.

   Pretty lame of me requesting info and then stating I won't be posting next
week, sorry.
From: peewee@infoserv.com (Philip Stromer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: All this SWF crap
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:39:22 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Friends of Lenny Bruce

        >I don't intend to speak for everyone on the net, but I think 
        >the vast majority of us 
        
Then don't.        

        >don't particularly care what's going on in your PBeM league. 
 
That's one vote against.  I vote FOR.  So Don is instantly canceled.
Don, how does it feel to have scum like me CANCEL you before your
eyes, before your very favorite newsgroup?

        >Therefore, on behalf of those of us who read this group for 
        >WRESTLING, not PBeM wrestling, please refrain from posting 
        >commentary on the group.
 
Go stick your cavernous rectum where the Sun doesn't shine, dickwad.
You net police make me gag.

        >Thank you. I'll get off my soapbox now.
 
Good.  Now bend over and insert soap back into its holder.
From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan T2 Wen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Questions...
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <schmata.722021757@camelot> schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein) writes:
>Phil Stromer mellowed out? NO, NO, NO!! =P We know it's you, by the way-
>so you can ditch that "Power To The Penis" thing...


Yeah, he did say it was he, and he's proven it with his words.  All we can
do now is 1) ignore him, 2) laugh at his tasteless humor, 3) flame him,
4) take him seriously, or 5) agree with him.

Phil, I'm assuming you're doing this to be funny.  If I'm right, it's a
very risky thing to do considering how P.C. the people on the net are.
Perhaps you should not log on from your terminal while smoking weed...?

-- 
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  _|     _____/                     chimera@minds.bsd.uchicago.edu
  _|    ________      "I think it was his eye, cold and blue like a vulture's."
From: hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: More new names!!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:00:16 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Martel, Rick           Model                   RichardVignault     34/19 >                        Strike Force

Is this for real, Has he been wrestling since he was 15?

Joey

Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:53:27 -0500 
From: Aidan Edward Palmer <ap3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: All this SWF crap

Don Becker says:

> To whomever is running the SWF:
> 
> I don't intend to speak for everyone on the net, but I think the vast 
> majority of us don't particularly care what's going on in your PBeM league. 
>
> Therefore, on behalf of those of us who read this group for WRESTLING, not 
> PBeM wrestling, please refrain from posting commentary on the group.
>
> Thank you. I'll get off my soapbox now.

Is this the same Don "Dreamcard, if you don't like it put it in your KILL file"
Becker who not so long ago was posting his own fictional wrestling results?

Don, although I agree with you that the SWF doesn't really belong in this
newsgroup, you are one of the two people (the other being the FWF's Stilt-Man)
who I would least expect to hear complain (talk about the pot calling the
kettle black...)  I don't see how you can think the SWF is a waste of space
but that the FWF isn't and your Dreamcards weren't.  Maybe you've had a
change or heart?

Therefore, on behalf of those of us who read this group for WRESTLING,
I think the creators of the FWF and SWF should e-mail their stuff to whoever's
interested or post someplace more appropriate.


               Aidan Palmer              ap3b+@andrew.cmu.edu
"It's not just hype, it's hype-oppotamus!"
     - Lester Freeman, "True Colors"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: rjackson@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Darkman)
Subject: Vince's Troubles
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:39:32 GMT


It is my belief that Vince's troubles with the WWF started a long time ago when
he built his foundation around Hulk Hogan.  Hogan was the only face that Vince
would push (Heaven forbid that Vince should push a heel.) and now without Hogan,
he has no one to draw the crowds.  Vince spent so much time pushing Hogan that he
forgot to push anyone else.  This was a big mistake.  If he had the sense to push
one or two other people in his organization, he would still have big draws instead
of begging for Hogan to come back and losing some of his (better ?) wrestlers that
are now all leaving WWF.  Even now he doesn't push anyone like Hogan got pushed
over the last seven or eight years.  There is no way that Bret Hart will get that
big a push and Vince really could come up with a better Champ than him.
Too bad Vince doesn't have greater foresight.  He should have known that the
Hulkster could not stay around forever and to that end should have thought of
someone to push when Hulk was gone.
Too late now.

Darkman
"May the vermin from the depths of Hades arise and vomit on your eyeballs"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: carlton@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Carlton)
Subject: Re: CWUSA: 11/13/92 Recap
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:34:45 GMT

jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:
>Steel hits Pope >with a power bomb. What's noteworthy is that for a green 
>wrestler, 
>Steel executes this power bomb better than Sid Eudy/Vicious/Justice 
>usually does. After the power bomb, Steel whips Pope into the ropes 
>and hits him with a Doug Furnas quality drop kick: ie, he's parallel 
>to the ground and plants his feet right in Pope's face. Not bad for a 
>6' 5" wrestler.

I saw this show and I agree with you that Steel looks like an up and
comer.

>Side question: I'm almost sure that they aren't holding the finals in 
>Japan, but you never know. Does anybody know if CWUSA has ties to any 
>of the federations in Japan. 

Sandy Barr trades talent with Ryuma Go's newly formed Oriental Pro
Wrestling which is one of 16 wrestling promotions in Japan.

>Jesse Barr mentions that he will be wrestling Brian Lee next week. 
>Looks like CWUSA is bringing in some new talent. 

I was also surprized by this, but I find it hard to believe any "name"
person would come into Championship USA when Meltzer reported:

        -  Attendance is below 200
	-  Wrestlers are being paid $50 a match
	-  The  Oregon Boxing and Wrestling Commision is trying to shut
	   down the operation because Barr used an unlicensed wrestler
	   (Art Barr, Sandy's son aka Love Machine in AAA).  Sandy 
	   Barr was given a 6 week reprieve until he can find a lawyer
	   to defend him.


>-- 
>Cal...                        "I meant no harm. I just liked
>                               explosives and I was careful never 
> jewell@Data-IO.COM            to kill more than I could eat."
> ...!uunet!pilchuck!jewell       -- Hunter S. Thompson

Thanks Cal for posting a recap of the action.

Mark
mark_carlton@ccm.hf.intel.com

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From: carlton@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Carlton)
Subject: Re: Art Barr's rape case (Was: History of Japan)
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:48:31 GMT

hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:

>mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>>>It's an irony.  Art Barr can't wrestle in Oregon(and was kicked out of WCW)
>>>for his rape case, but Gonzales is still wrestling(as a face) in PR.
>>Now *this* is a new one to me.
>>Can I get more details of Mr. Barr's case?
>>Should this be included in the new FAQ?

>Can't remember the detail, but let me follow here just to let you know
>I'm not ignoring you.   Anybody???
>-- 
>Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
>University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
>Denton,Texas
>$@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J

The way I remember it, Art Barr was charged with raping a young girl
at the Pendelton Armory(I believe), in Pendleton, Oregon, the site of the 
wrestling card, a couple years ago.  His charge was plea bargined to a 
misdemeanor charge and he was sentenced to community service work with young 
children since Beetle Juice (his ring gimmick) was popular with the youngsters.

Meltzer reported in the last Observer that Barr was granted a wrestling
license in the first part of October.

Mark
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: History of Japan
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:46:39 GMT

v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes:

>    What's the story with Inoki?  I know he's involved in politics and has
>little time to wrestle, but if he's not retired yet that must mean he wrestles
>at least once in a while. How often does he don the tights, and when was his 
>last foray into the ring?  I imagine with his status, even God would have to
>job for Inoki if Antonio asked him to.

He wrestles at least once or twice a year. This year was New Japan's 20th
anniversary, so he wrestled once in each January(NJ/WCW combined show) and
March(since NJ had its first card on 3/6/72). Of course, he's not what he
used to be, but to me, he's still watchable considering his situation. He
often shows up and greets to the fans on special cards.  What's really good
about him is that he still keeps training no matter how busy he is.
With his current status, you might be right for doing job for him.  Even
before he became a senator, Hogan and Brody were the only ones who refuse to
do a job for him as far as I know.  Even Andre did for him clean in a tag
match before he did job for Hogan or Anabolic Dingo.

>    OK, here's a good time to ask: exactly what is the complete story with
>this situation?  Brody was stabbed to death in a locker room by Gonzalez,
>correct?  And wasn't Atlas going to bring the final testimony but refused?
>It's a been a long time since I tried to sort this one out.

I don't remember exact story either.  All I remember is Gonzales, who is a
face in PR, KILLED Brody.  Those in the locker room who could be witness
were let go from the arena at the time the cops came, but I might be wrong.
I think you are right about Atlas. Dutch Mantel was with him trying to do
that. I hope they try to bring the fact again and get Gonzales' ass. Someone
has to kill that murderer.

It's an irony.  Art Barr can't wrestle in Oregon(and was kicked out of WCW)
for his rape case, but Gonzales is still wrestling(as a face) in PR.

May he be cursed. 

-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
$@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J
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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Hennig to team with Savage ??
Date: 21 Nov 1992 03:12:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cadesjar@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Curtis Desjardins) says:

>In article <1992Nov19.174312.3011@rayssd.ssd.ray.com> sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Steve Myerson) writes:
>>>Lastly, Now that Savage and Henning are teamed-up, what will they call
>>>themselves ?? obviously the "Ultimate Maniacs" does not fit them
>>
>>It's too bad Henning and UW aren't teaming up.
>>They could be called "Ultimate Perfection",
>>and it doesn't get any better than that.
>
>Hennig and Savage: "Perfectly Macho"
>
>(oh shit, what did I just say --- VINCE! Use that expression and you're
> a dead man!)

Actually, Hennig named the team at the end of Prime Time:
"The Perfect Team".  They're even using the name in the new ads here in
Cleveland.  BTW, tickets are still available in ALL price ranges.  Maybe
I'll be able to get some freebees...
-- 
===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: All this SWF crap
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 17:51:42 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

To whomever is running the SWF:
 
I don't intend to speak for everyone on the net, but I think the vast 
majority of us don't particularly care what's going on in your PBeM league. 
 
Therefore, on behalf of those of us who read this group for WRESTLING, not 
PBeM wrestling, please refrain from posting commentary on the group.
 
Thank you. I'll get off my soapbox now.
 
--Don

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| or:         jaflrn!grendel@uunet.uu.net | to be. But I just can't tell    |
| Nothing above is to be taken as dogma.  | the difference anymore these    |
| FISH-QUEENSRYCHE-SOUNDGARDEN-QUEEN-ASIA | days." --Fish, "Credo"          |
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Da Ivy League
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:49:17 GMT

murray@husc8.harvard.edu (Brendan Murray) writes:

>Yeah Ivy League wrestling fans!
>We've got a HUGE contingent here at Harvard -- including several the law
>and medical schools.  Whenever Flair's at the Boston Garden, we go and
>style and profile for The Man.

Cheers!!!

-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
$@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J
From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Brody's Murder
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

While dissociating myself from any blanket condemnations of an entire
country, I *would* like to add that Bruiser Brody was, IMHO, the greatest
pro rassler of his day.

Steven whose son named our cat after Brody

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