HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: nicotine extraction
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:59:23 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

carl@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Carl Devore) writes:
>Anyone know how to extraxt nicotine from tobacco?  The prices in drug stores
>are prohibitive (~$30 / 96x2mg), plus you need a prescription.  It's absurd!
>I know the stuff is dangerous, but smoking is more dangerous.  It's as if they
>don't really want people to quit.

     Soak it in water. But be warned!!! There's enough nicotine in a cigarette
to KILL YOU. Most of it is burned off when it is smoked. Dosage is therefore
very important, and I have no idea how to calculate an appropriate one.

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From: jjf@cats.ucsc.edu (Jeffrey John Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: _Go Ask Alice_ vs. "White Rabbit"
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:54:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Surrealistic Pillow was released in Feb of 1967. (says so on my "Worst of
Jefferson Airplane" album)
 JJ
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bagg@quads.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: Long term LSD usage
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:58:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.160830.12757@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

>Nothing concrete, but just look at Timothy Leary.  He's a bit spacey, but
>I'm told he's always been like that.  He certainly seems quite capable
>of all kinds of abstraction. :-)

That's funny.  I would think Leary'd count as evidence for chronic
LSD use being harmful.  For one thing, he's said very little new
in the past 10 years.

>-- 
>Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
>                           "Snow Goons are Bad News"

   --Matt
From: hefors@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: poppies
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:27:20 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland


  this is what i've heard :

    1. crush the red balls and smoke them in a pipe, or
    2. cut them with a knife a dry the white thing that comes out.Smoke it 
       in a pipe.

  but of course,it's illegal and DANGEROUS.  

  
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: LSD: the early days
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 03:58:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor) writes:
: there was a small footnote that quoted part of a technical paper from some
: obsure research program conducted by Sandoz (I think). the researcher had
: observed, what appeared to him, as dendrite (sp?) growth in brains for 3-4
: weeks following ingestion of less than 500mcg of LSD-25.
: 

Fascinating but not necessarily positive.  I've read that connectivity reaches
a maximum somewhere during our first year and then a winnowing out process
begins as learning becomes dominant resulting in a signifigantly lower
average fanout at maturity.  A temporary surge might though allow for a
pretty serious repatterning which is certainly what it feels like to me 
and explains what I have always felt was the most productive way to use
LSD, spacing it out to at least montly intervals.  I've always called
it "integrating the experience."  It also offers a mechanism to explain what
I have observed as increasing disorientation in folks that binge for a while. 
I sorta doubt the mechanism though.

Bob

-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

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From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Poppies & Opium
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:41:33 GMT
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland

lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:

>The dreaded Opium Poppy species (Pavalar Somniferum or something -- look it
>up in an encyclopedia) grows in Asia Minor.  Unless your field is there, you
>probably have harmless flowers on your hands.  They won't get you high, but
>eating the seeds might make you fail a drug test.

   Is the production of morphine somehow dependent on the growth region?
I saw poppies that looked just like Papaver somniferum growing wild in South
Turkey. On the other hand, they might have been Papaver dubium or something.
I didn't bother to try to extract the juice as it was spring and I had heard
that morphine is only present in the latex in autumn. Is Papaver somniferum
Lavender any good?

   Besides, there are many species in the family Papaveraceae (sp?) that
contain mildly euphorising agents such as protopine. So, giving it a try is
probably not a waste of time, providing you are interested in opiates.
-- 
Jani Heinonen                  "The worm is not psychoactive."
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 --David A. Honig
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: How many would prefer eating over smoking if marijuana were legal?
From: dbk@uunet!tellab5!odgate (Dan Keith)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:30:42 GMT
Organization: Emergent Systems

lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:

>Smoking has one key advantage:  faster feedback in the autotitration loop.
>What I mean by this is that when you smoke it, you feel the full effect
>within the first five minutes, but when you eat it, you have to wait at
>least 30 minutes.  

>Therefore, it is much easier to control how stoned you get if you smoke.
>I think the most people would prefer smoking it for this reason.

There is a form of smoking called vaporization that does not actually burn
or combust any material. Instead, it uses heat to vaporize the "good
stuff", which is then inhaled. This results in no tar or carbon monoxide,
which is a much healthier situation. This has been discussed here before.
In addition, I believe that one of the cigarette pushers (Philip Morris?)
has patented a smokeless cigarette which was never brought to market.


-- 
Dan "Bud" Keith ...mcdchg!ecgcurly!odgate!dbk, ...uunet!clout!odgate!dbk 
...and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do
ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bagg@quads.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: Smoking toads
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:01:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug4.180324.2814@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
                                             DMT is far more intensely
>visual than 5-Me-O DMT, which is probably not best described as
>an hallucinogen. 5-Me-O DMT is dimethyl tryptamine, substituted
>with a methoxy group (CH3-O-) at position 5, which is 4 carbons from the
>indole nitrogen, on the benzene ring.

This doesn't seem right to me.  It seems to me that DMT and 5-MeO-DMT
are both hallucinogenic but that 5-MeO has more pronounced unpleasant
peripheral effects such as tachycardia.  The described stucture is,
of course, correct.

>Jeremy
>jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au

   --M@

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater)
Subject: Tea the answer?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 20:09:00 GMT

I was talking to this dude i know that says that by drinking this certain
tea that all traces of any drugs you've taken in the last couple of weeks
(including the day before) will be wiped out, unable to be detected by drug
tests. he puts a lot of faith in this seeing that he is in one of the armed
forces. the tea is bought at health food stores. it is called Alvita golden
bond or golden seal or something like this. any truth to this? i heard
while listening to the olympics that the athlete aren't allowed to take
diuretics because they might mask other drugs, is this the possible affect
it has? I am seriously doubting him because he got mad at me when i told
him you can't put enough strychnine in a t ab to do any harm. he was
telling me of when his friends got cramps from it. (shrug)
--
death@buhub.bradley.edu                              death@camelot.bradley.edu

                       Precious is the death of the just.
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:14727 talk.bizarre:26321
From: mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Der Springer")
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: LSD: the early days
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:22:08 GMT
	<1992Aug17.072257.19774@panix.com>
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Eaters of Wisdom
In-reply-to: tls@panix.com's message of 17 Aug 92 07:22:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.072257.19774@panix.com> tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) writes:
>   However, I don't think anyone's come forth with
>   a study suggesting that unsupervised use of LSD is a paneca for alcoholism.

    No, but if you eat thre of four milligrams and then whump yourself
hard over the head with a frozen Cornish Game Hen a few times, it is a
guaranteed permanent cure for inappropriate crossposting.  Try it and
see.  And DON'T post the results to talk.bizarre.

--

                And for to see, and eke for to be seye
Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu
From: bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: mace / nutmeg
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:32:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Land of UD

Want the true skinny on nutmeg?  Read the natural highs FAQ.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: asbestos@nwu.edu (Michael A. Atkinson)
Subject: Anonymous Posting: MJ decriminalised?
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Originator: mikea@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: /dev/null
Organization: Chaos
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:14:18 GMT

I will post any article, on any subject (germane to alt.drugs) from
anybody, to alt.drugs anonymously.  I did not write this.  I am not
responsible for this.  I will NOT forward mail to the author of the
anonymous article.  If you want for me to post an article anonymously for
you, send mail to <asbestos@nwu.edu>.  If you want to mail me anonymously
(even I won't know who you are) send mail to <ap.6182@layout.berkeley.edu>.

===Begin-anonymous-posting============================================

A little paranoia goes a long way.  Will you please post this question
to alt.drugs.  Thank you.....

Anyone know anything about this?

I saw the last half of a television news article last week (one of the
main networks - NBC, maybe) talking about MJ being decriminalized in
Maine.  I didn't get any details, but at a party last weekend someone
said that they thought just one town in Maine - York (?) had decriminalized
and the state was expected to follow suit.  The article also talked about how
widespread MJ was - that despite huge government stings like the one
recently in Indiana (where THE MAN ran a grow shop to identify growers - #$%#!)
no one can be sure of how much MJ there is out there.

Let's just say that no matter how dry it gets in our neck of the woods at
times, there IS more than the WOD can handle.


-Face N. TheCrowd

=====end-anonymous-posting===============================================

-- 
Michael A. Atkinson       | "Just stop whining." - Rebecca 
asbestos@nwu.edu          |

            A Libertarian and an NRA member.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: The FDA's WoV (War on Vitamins) Pt.1
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:36:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

From sdcc12!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!uunet!blkcat!Uucp Fri Aug 14 13:30:28 PDT 1992
Article: 44487 of sci.med
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Manufacture of LSD
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: WEEKLY ANSWER TO alt.drug's FAVORITE QUESTION!!!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:04:46 GMT


 OK, you whinin' babies... :-) I will take it upon myself to put out a
VERY SPECIFIC FAQ on the few syntheses of LSD and post it every week.
Some of the texts are not quite so easy to get depending on what
university one goes to. So in a week or so I'll have a nice "How To" FAQ
ready. Maybe I'll run it past Lamont and Petrus and Jeremy to see if they
have any input as well. This, I hope, will put an end to the unnecessary
net-fussing.


b
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 If mail barfs, send it to the ip #: aankrom@130.253.192.68   

                       dAdaMatriX
      I've lost my memories to all my fears...
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: slr@cco.caltech.edu (Steve L. Rhoades)
Subject: Re: News item/LSD dosing
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:01:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.170249.10724@dante.uucp> mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
>u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>: In article <1992Aug11.202754.30135@dante.uucp>, mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
>: 
>: Well, as a matter of fact, I have been toying with the idea of giving
>: a close friend a trip, and then telling him/her to use it on me
>: some time in the next 6 months without me knowing about it, just to
>: see what it would be liked to be tripped without warning.
>: 
>: Thus, my friend will alter my consciousness in my ignorance, but
>: will be sure I wont mind.

>Hm.  Well, I certainly wouldn't want to do that myself, and it doesn't
>strike me as a wise idea, but hey, if you think it might work out
>alright, then why not?  I assume your friend would have enough common
>sense to not do it some day when you might have to go to work, or
>drive somewhere, or otherwise take care of something important.

I second that response. In addition to the above, I have found that 
my mood at the time can carry over into the trip.  If your friend has
a serious personal problem he is trying to work out himself, unbeknownst
to you, "giving" him a trip at that time might not be a good idea.

Of course, "giving" him a trip WITH his knowledge at that time might
provide some enlightenment on his problem.


-- 
Steve L. Rhoades            | Voice: (800) 398-9962
Post Office Box 1000        | 
Mt. Wilson, Calif 91023     | Internet: slr@cco.caltech.edu
From: nobody@nowhere
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Stung
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:49:30 GMT
Reply-To: anybody

... is what I dont want to be. Has anyone done business with R.W.M, in the
ads in the back of High Times? He's the East Pike, Seattle address that 
has mushroom supplies. How long has he been advertising? I know since
April of this year, I dont have any issues farther back.

The only reason I'm asking is that I corresponded with him, and his reply
could have been considered incriminating perhaps -- how did he know I'm not
a cop? I guess I'm maybe being paranoid...

I. M. Nobody

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.psychology
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: AA (Was Re: Definition of an addict.)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:46:02 GMT

enigma@netcom.com (Enigma) writes:

>pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>>
>>AA is certainly an immediate way to deal with the immediate problems of
>>alcoholism.  Most of my negative comments about AA as a program focus
>>on its use as a *long term* solution, where the addict never goes on
>>to try deeper levels of cure that make use of their own will power.
>
>Are you familiar with the 12-steps?  I ask, because it's very common
>for people not in the program (and even quite a few who are!) to
>focus exclusively on the first three steps and ignore steps 4 through
>12.  These steps are a long term solution, which many people have
>found to provide the deeper level of cure that you refer to. 

Oh God, here we go again....

-- 
=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
--(David Vessell)--(Bradley University Computing Services)-(dave@bradley.edu)--
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:14801 talk.politics.drugs:5871
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Ecstacy (X) dangerous? CNN British report ...
From: bagg@quads.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Aug18.165623.24061@mits.mdata.fi> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:

>By the way, everything scientific that I've seen on this newsgroup and the FAQ
>list about MDMA are somehow related to the neurotoxicity (sp?) or the
>psychological, empathogenic properties. I'd really like to see a more complete
>pharmacological profile of the drug!

Unfortunately, we don't know that much about its pharmacology.  Like
MA, its activity is not due to being either an agonist or an antagonist.
Instead, it enters the serotonin neuron (there seems to be both active
and passive transport mechanisms) and somehow causes the release of
serotonin which in turn causes a release of dopamine.  MDMA does have
moderate affinity for some receptors (including 5HT1 and 2, as I recall), 
but this is probably not important to its psychoactivity.  Since the 
interesting stuff goes on inside the neuron, research on MDMA requires a 
little more than the standard pharmacological manipulations.

>-- 
>Jani Heinonen                  "The worm is not psychoactive."
>jah@mits.mdata.fi                 --David A. Honig

--Matt Baggott
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Address request
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:03:00 GMT
Organization: Private Coherent 4.0.1 site Augsburg/Bavaria/Germany

Someone from uucp@bhole.uucp sent me mail.  Please, would you try to
get a full domain address, else I cannot mail you back.  Anyway, the
Lubeck Sentence parts will be reposted in some weeks as a whole and
corrected.

--ralf
------------------------They say the gods get angry if you pray too much. (nh)
From: larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Jamaican study shows no cognitive harm from MJ
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:41:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <64258@cup.portal.com> patrik@cup.portal.com (Patrick M Crumhorn) writes:
>
>JAMAICA'S DRUG ABUSE COUNCIL CHALLENGES MARIJUANA STUDY 
>
>"The dangers, if any, for these children were minimal, Dr. Lampart told IPS,
>adding that at 30 days the babies of users had a more favorable score than
>those of non-users on autonomic stability and reflexes. 
>
>But chairman of the NCDA, Dr. Winston Davidson, has challenged the study -- on
>the basis of common sense, he says 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A.k.a. political conventional wisdom.  This guy claims to be a scientist?

>-- adding that its conclusions were not supported by clinical evidence, 

Which is?

>did not accord with reality 

Is he saying that clinical evidence and reality are two different things? %)

>and were taken out of context. 

Say what?  Odd that he didn't supply this missing "context."

>"As a cynical scientist 
       ^^^^^^^
dogmatic?

>I am not prepared to accept 

I.e., "I have a bias."

>that there is no difference
>in cognitive levels between children of marijuana users and those of
>non-users," he told IPS. 

Then shut up and do another study that factually disproves the first one.
Geez, what ever happened to the scientific method?

>However, Davidson says it is easy to "cook" scientific data and warns that
>there are persons with a hidden agenda of pushing to legalize the narcotic. 

If he were a responsible scientist, he would demonstrate the errors in the
experiment, if any.  Of course, that takes time, and doesn't make for easy
soundbites... This guy seems to have a very strange conception of "peer
review" -- if something contradicts "common sense," the data must be cooked
or the study was flawed.  Right.

>"We must preserve the integrity of our children and establish social norms of
>behavior to facilitate the development of our population. 

Now there's an ominous phrase: "establish social norms of behavior."  Even 
if they can't prove that it's harmful, they don't want people using MJ 
because it's not approved behavior.  Pardon me while I vomit... this guy 
sounds like DQ or Pat Buchanan...

>"To enact legislation on the basis of spurious data is highly irresponsible. I
>cannot support this. I will continue to fight against having ganja legalized,"

So what is "spurious" about the data?  Did this guy even look at the data,
or is he just assuming it's wrong because he disagrees with the conclusion?

If anyone has more details on this study, please post.

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Yohimbe
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:17:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.235640.20256@ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN) writes:
>>And what refs are those which you have in front of you?
>>
>Psychedelic Chemestry
>Magickal & Ritual uses for Herbs
>From Chocolate to Morphine
>The Natural highs FAQ
>
>Sure, not very prestigious, but unanimity convinces me.

The only reference worth anything in this list is "From Chocolate to Morphine";
I don't expect Weil to be wrong (at least when he talks about drugs themselves;
he's terribly credulous when it comes to quacks and bogus therapies.)

I'll double check as well.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:17:19 GMT

djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg) writes:

>Saw Naked Lunch last night.  Didn't get it.

   Then you probably needn't worry, since you have at least some sanity
left. Myself, I'm scared. I nearly DID get the book.

>think so.  Is there any significance to the aliens being refered to
>as "mugwumps" (mugwumps being the term for Republicans who voted for
>Cleveland in 1884, and subsequently any political independent)?

   It's been a while since I last read it, but in the book, mugwumps were
imaginary creatures that were addicted to some liquid that they drank with
straws from bowls and acted as prostitutes. Their semen also had some
significance. Sounds pretty vague, eh?

>Did Burroughs really shoot his wife?

   Well, I really can't verify it, but it is said that he tried the William
Tell trick with a handgun and missed...I mean the apple, not the wife.
William Jr., age 4, was watching.
-- 
Jani Heinonen                  "The worm is not psychoactive."
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 --David A. Honig
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