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From: stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: kanji of the day ?55
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:04:41 GMT
Distribution: fj

KANJI OF THE DAY # 55

                2*****      3*****
                ****        ****
                ****        ****          ****
1***********************************************
                ****        ****
                ****        ****
                ****        ****
                                      ****
    4***************************************
                      6***
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****                ****
5***********************************************
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
              ************
                  ******

(Numbers indicate order and beginning of strokes)

JIS      = 1492 (serial number)
shiftJIS = 88F0 (hexcode)
NELSON   = 3896
MIYAMOTO = 6-166
KUNZE    = 7-63

   OnYomi: U
  Kunyomi: imo  - potato, taro, Irish potato, sweet potato, colocasia;
                  a rustic (slang)

Mnemonics:  "Plant with tubers"

Derivation:

                ******      ******
                ****        ****
                ****        ****          ****
************************************************  <-- grass, grassy plant
                ****        ****
                ****        ****
                ****        ****
                                      ****
    **************************************** <-- surface of soil
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****                ****
************************************************  <-- root
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
                      ****
              ************ <-- tuber
                  ******

Compounds:

IMOmushi -  a green caterpillar
zuiki    -  taro stem
IMOdane  -  seed potatoes
IMOzuru  -  sweet potato vines

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I am somewhat unsure about the usage of this kanji in comparison to the
katakana word po-te-to (Englisch: potato). Potato (Solanum tubiferum)
originates from South America and therefore a kanji (of Chinese
Origin) cannot exist for this plant. So the kanji sure originally stands
for taro or for sweet potatoes. But what is the usage today?

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From: SUHXNWA%IUP.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Kanji to Kana(s)
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:47:24 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hello.  I'm doing a study on how hiragana and katakana were derived from the
Kanji system.  I am still in the Lit. review stage, and would like to expand my
lit. base.  If anyone has any possible sources (including youself), plaese let
me know either via the list or personally (see below).  Thanks in advance,

David W. McFarland, III   " Dusty "
Internet: SUHXNWA@GROVE.IUP.EDU
  Bitnet: SUHXNWA@IUP.BITNET
From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Trick Answer
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:22:35 GMT
Distribution: fj

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SWEET HEART BABY,

 I got this from sci.lang.japan. This is a puzzle question about Japanese.
I found it quite interesting, although I couldn't get the answer. Maybe
you'd like to try?

     ____
    /    \
   / \    \
   l  \  / \
   l   \/   \
    \__/     \


this is a distorted character. The answer is a Japanese adjactive.





































**** ANSWER *******

1) Det-tara, me (if the two lines within the "no"
came out it would be an eye)

2) Detarame (random, no meaning)


Did you get it? I think it's difficult because 1) my Japanese is not good
enough 2) that character can't be drawn well using only ASCII characters.
But it's interesting, reminding me of some similar Chinese puzzle.

Your Patrick
From: perrenod@RENAISSANCE.CRAY.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  Japanese minor vs. Japanese study minor
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:17:34 GMT
Distribution: fj

I would suggest option 1, substituting history, politics and economy for
literature courses is most appropriate in this modern era.  While
employers are very unlikely to make a distinction between Japanese study
minor or Japanese minor, the business world would prefer to hire
graduates with Japanese economic and political knowledge (along with
language) rather than training in literature.

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Stephen C. Perrenod
Cray Research     	(408) 745-6466
894 Ross Dr.		perrenod@renaissance.cray.com
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
From: 921KARLOWITZ@merlin.nlu.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Flower help.
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:43:05 GMT
Distribution: fj

Many thanks for the flower help.  I appreciate it.

				- Lee Karlowitz
From: pinhanez@IME.USP.BR
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Nihonjin In American Films
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:38:32 GMT
Distribution: fj

>  Example C: Then, I screened `Breakfast at Tiffanys', because my wife wanted
 to
>  see a film with Audrey Hepburn (apparently she's a popular symbol in Japan?).


You can't imagine how popular she is. Most of the japanese girls I met
consider Audrey Hepburn as a symbol of beauty to be followed.

Claudio Pinhanez
From: DTWIANOW@SUNRISE.SYR.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Nihonjin In American Films
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:07:19 GMT
Distribution: fj

John-  The version of Gung Ho you can see in Japan has had the Japanese
American actors' horrendous Japanese dubbed over by native actors.  You
should see (hear) the original!!!

Dan
From: 0004807775@mcimail.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Hello
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:24:50 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hello,

This letter is for any and all who correspond on this conference.  I am
from mcimail.  I am interested in establishing a dialog with the users
on this conference and I am interested in obtaining the current files and
articles of interest to this conference.  My name is Tim Whitmore and my
e-mail address is 4807775@mcimail.com on internet.  Please respond with news
or info about how I can conference
with you people.

-tw
From: ASH733%ALBNYVM1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Japanese speech contest
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:17:18 GMT
Distribution: fj


            A N N O U N C E M E N T

   The Kawamura Cultural Foundation, the Japan Society of New York, and
  the Japanese Consul General's Office in New York are co-sponsoring
  an annual Japanese speech contest for non-Japanese natives.
    This year's theme is "Beikoku to Nihon: Hikaku no shiten kara
  mita bunka"  (translation - "The U.S. and Japan: Cultures from a
  comparative view point").  According to the organizers, participants
  should prepare a cassett tape containing three minutes of speech
  (I think it should be a condensed version of what you want to say
  about the comperative cultures... a demo tape or some sort)
  and another minute of your self-introduction ("jiko shokai") in
  JAPANESE.  The tape should be sent to the Kawamura Cultural Foundation
  by October 17.   I believe some contestants would be eliminated at
  the tape entry, and those who clear this first round will be invited
  the final round speech contest at the Japan society.  This event is
  scheduled on December 12.   I heard that the first prize is usually
  a free round trip ticket to Japan.

    If you wnat to know more detail, PLEASE DO NOT E-mail ME, but
  contact the Kawamura Cultural Foundation.
    The address and phone number of the foundation are;

      90 Park Avenue, 17th Fl.
      New York, NY 10016

      (212) 808-5335

  Good luck,

  Akiko Hosler
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From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!olivea!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!ap1.me.umn.edu!aris@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Aris Argyriadis)
Subject: RE: ftp on large files
Organization: none
Distribution: fj
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:19:19 GMT
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Brad Held says:
>Is there a known problem with ftp'ing large files (large
>being +20M)?
>
>I have never experienced any first hand but am posting
>this for some co-workers who claim to have had "problems".
>The problem was described to me as ftp will periodically
>stop sending (but not terminate) after some random size
>somewhere above 20M.
>
>The problem occured using Context/Apollo Versions
7.1/7.3/SR10.1/SR10.3/10.3.5.


Well, I have similar problems under SR10.4!!!  And everytime that this
happens
I have to reboot the computer, otherwise the TCP/IP sockets will remain
locked!
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From: uw-coco!nwnexus!lampi@beaver.cs.washington.edu  (Michael Lampi)
Subject: Re: comp.sys.apollo FAQ [October, Part 1 of 2]
Organization: MDL Corporation, Redmond, WA (206) 861-6700=
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:47:59 GMT
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Well, it had to happen :-)  Now that there is no one at R Squared who
can spell "Apollo", they are finally listed in the 3rd party vendor list.

Please add MDL Corporation (yes - they're baaaack!) to the list of 3rd
party vendors for Apollo and HP/Apollo systems.  Thank you!

(Just a satisfied 3rd party supplier for HP/Apollo customers :-) :-)
-- 
Michael Lampi         lampi@mdlcorp.com
MDL Corporation       15301 NE 90th Street, Redmond, WA 98052
                      (206) 861-6700    (206) 861-6767 FAX
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From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU!pp0s@ucbvax.Berkeley.  (Peter Colin Piela)
Subject: trouble finding getarg and iargc
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:50:25 GMT
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I am writing a Pascal program which needs command line arguments. Instead of using the Domain pgm calls I am experimenting with the getarg and iargc. When I try to link the program /bin/ld reports getarg and iargc as unresolved symbols. Having used nm to search in the expected libraries (like libU77.a) I too am unable to trace these symbols. Some help would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter
From: email!newton.auto.tuwien.ac.at!mjl@uunet.uu.net (Martin J. Laubach)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Re: elm2.3 pl11
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:03:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
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|> I have compiled elm2.3pl11 using sr10.4 and cc6.9 I get a illegal instruction
|> trap when I try to send mail. Has anyone seen similar behavior

  Ha, another one! This was the reason I was asking about the timezone()
function a little earlier. The punchline is, you have to alter all calls
to timezone() to _bky_timezone()...

  See you,

	mjl
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From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!mcsun!dxcern!dxcern!bcr@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Bill Riemers)
Subject: strange "touch" behavior
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:12:02 GMT
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I find that even with the -f option, touch refuses to
update files you do not own?  Why is this so when as
far as I understand this is equivalent to:
 echo -n "" >> filename

which works on any file you have write access to?  The
only reason this is even a pain, is just because many
makefiles use touch, while many directories use acl's
to inherit owner.

                          Bill
From: bonnetf@apo.esiee.fr (Frank Bonnet)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: DM owner system call ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:02:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City

Hi,

I'm writing a small custom program which must be ONLY executable by
the person who is logged in thru the Display Manager and fail in ALL 
the other cases. 

Is there a ( undocumented ? ) system call that check who is the "owner" 
of the Display Manager ? 

For the moment I use pad_$dm_cmd to check but it is not very smart ...

We are running  DOMAIN_OS 10.4  Aegis and BSD.

Thanks for any answer.

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From: van-bc!rsoft!agate!spool.mu.edu!olivea!charnel!sifon!root@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Steeve McCauley)
Subject: trouble installing 10.4 on dn4500
Organization: McGill University
Distribution: fj
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:13:08 GMT
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I'm having problems installing 10.4 on a dn4500.  I currently have
the domain_os ver. 10.1 installed.  I have tried to run minst from
the //AA/install/tools directory but I get the error,

Unable to restore release index for OS 10.4

is there something I'm missing here?  Like, can I even do the upgrade
from 10.1 to 10.4 etc etc.

I also tried to install the thing by booting from the cartridge tape,
tape 5 of 5.  I don't have the installation manual for this version
but I assumed it would be similar to that for 10.1.  I tried to run
calendar and invol from the boot tape but without any success.  I tried
the following,

	RE
	[return]
	DI C
	ex calendar

	re
	[return]
	di c
	ex invol

.. nada.

If anyone has any suggestions I would be very greatful -- if i have 
to sit through many more tape retensions i think that i'll go mad!

Thanks
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From: news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!news.orst.edu!usenet@rutgers.edu  (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Looking for ethernet board for DN3000
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:32:14 GMT
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--
I'm looking to buy an ethernet board for a dn3000.  A used Apollo ethernet  
board would be acceptable.
----
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University             
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
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From: thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com (jt -- John Thompson)
Subject: re: Transition to HP-UX
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:08:50 GMT
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> One of many problems I'm pondering is what to do with all my archived
> tapes (8mm [omniback], 9-trk [wbak], cartridge [wbak]).  What I think
> I know so far;
>   a) Can read 8mm[omniback] in my new HP9000/7xx[HP-UX] environment as
> long as I keep an HP/Apollo system in reserve.
If you get the omniback executables for HP-UX, you should be able to read things
without a Domain/OS system.  However, the 8mm format is not officially supported
(although I believe it works fine on HP-UX).

>   b) Can read 9-trk tapes in other formats. BUT is there a HP-UX utility
> to read wbak tapes?????
There will be an rbak capability added to HP-UX.  It is supposed to handle the
issues of restoring typed files cleanly, but (for instance) you wouldn't get
back the entire history of a DSEE "casehm" file.  Presumably you'd get the latest
version only, though maybe you'll end up with the cruddy byte-stream with all
the changes interleaved.  (This may be an Omniback issue too -- I haven't tried
restoring a typed file to a Un*x system yet.)

>   c) Transfer or bury the cartridges.
Hmmmm.  You could try winding them all to the end, and then turning the node
upside down while you typed in "m1/tmr/ved/ fvx- rat" I suppose.....   :-(
Seriously, I don't know a solution to this issue (besides keeping a Domain/OS
system around for wbak cartridges, and a Domain or Sun around for tar cartridges).
  
-- jt --
John Thompson
Design Services Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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* This e-mail correspondence is a work of fiction.  Any similarity      *
* between the views presented and actual views, personal or corporate,  *
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From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!uknet!strath-cs!prlhp1!gupta@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Ashok Gupta)
Subject: Availability of OSF_MOTIF version 1.1 for the HP/Apollo Domain 5500
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Redhill, UK
Distribution: fj
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:01:56 GMT
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

There's some confusion at HP, here in the UK, about whether this is 
actually available as a single separate product. Indeed they sent
me version 1.0 when I ordered 1.1.  :-(

Now I'm told I'll have to buy HP_VUE 2.01, Xlib, XtInstrinsics
and other GUI stuff too as they're bunded together with OSF_MOTIF v 1.1.
And these are priced together at twice what I paid for OSF v1.0 last year.
Price alone isn't the problem - I don't want to have to buy stuff I
know I will not ever need.

So can any one please tell me whether OSF v1.1 is available as a
separate product for the Apollo Domain 5500 ?  I'm only interested 
in binaries and libraries - not source.  And what version of the
OS I need to run it ?  And its cost and lastly where I can get it
from ?

Please email.

Thanks

Ashok
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From: <SP02038%SWTEXAS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject:  Patch tapes
X-Original-To:  apollo@srvr1.engin.umich.edu, SP02038
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
Distribution: fj
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:14:00 GMT
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        I have two questions for everyone.

        1.  I have little experience with HP patch tapes.  When you get
            a patch tape, do you have to install all of the patches or
            can you install selected patches?

        2.  There appears to be a need to post a list of SR10.4 patches
            to the net.  Will someone please post such a list with
            reference to which patch tape fixes what, and then update
            and repost the list on a monthly basis?

        I have seen a couple of "patched problems" on this conference
        I would like to have corrected on my system, but I do not have
        an extended service agreement (they want $25000 for that) so
        I get neither patch tapes nor notification of patch tapes.  You
        would think HP might have the wisdom to post notification of
        patches to this conference.  After all, the easiest way to keep
        a customer happy is to keep talking to him.

        Shaun Pankau
        UNIX Systems Administrator
        Computer Science Department
        Southwest Texas State University
        e-mail: sp02038@swtexas.bitnet or sp02038%swt.decnet@relay.the.net
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From: rkw@okc-unix.af.mil (Ron Wallman LAETA)
Subject: Transition to HP-UX
Status:  N 
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:36:39 GMT
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Been working on issues related to moving to HP-UX. If anyone out there
is working this same problem I'd like to make an e-mail contact to
exchange information. Thks.

One of many problems I'm pondering is what to do with all my archived
tapes (8mm [omniback], 9-trk [wbak], cartridge [wbak]).  What I think
I know so far;
  a) Can read 8mm[omniback] in my new HP9000/7xx[HP-UX] environment as
long as I keep an HP/Apollo system in reserve.
  b) Can read 9-trk tapes in other formats. BUT is there a HP-UX utility
to read wbak tapes?????
  c) Transfer or bury the cartridges.

  
Ronald K Wallman (civ)                    United States Air Force 
                                          Oklahoma City Air Logistics Center
Phone: 405-736-5575                       OC-ALC/LAETA
E-mail: rkw@okc-unix.af.mil               Tinker AFB, OK   73145-5990
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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ruscvx.rus.uni-stuttgart.de!zrfh0396@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Markus Draxler)
Subject: Testing scsi device with sst
Organization: User ruscvx Comp.Center (RUS) University of Stuttgart, Germany
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:25:18 GMT
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Hello experts,

I am using a DN10000 with OS10.3 and an exabyte to backup our apollo-
net. The other apollos are 3 DN3500 and 1 DN3000.

Now I got error messages like this :

** Tape i/o error
   write, data i/o, block 31, error 1
   mt status 8A48:  op not completed
                    unrecoverable tape read/write error
   --- retrying same block

** Tape i/o error
   write, data i/o, block 31, error 2
   mt status 9648:  op not completed
                    bad parameter in pb (byte count?)
   --- retrying same block

** Tape i/o error
   write, data i/o, block 31, error 3
   mt status 9648:  op not completed
                    bad parameter in pb (byte count?)
   --- retrying same block
?(wbak) (allocate_entry) Media-related error.
 - operation not started due to error in previous block list
    (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an 
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)

I want to test the scsi device using sst, but I stuck at setting
the device to be tested. 
What do I have to read ? Is this there a better way to locate the
error ?

Thank you for your help.

Markus Draxler
Computing center univerity of Stuttgart

markus.draxler@rus.uni-stuttgart.de
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