HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: "Dittos" for John Switzer (was Re: Summary Fri 12/4/92)
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:03:13 CST


In article <1992Dec15.161944.4645@netcom.com>, jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.125217.17957@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
> >>Helping to spread the Word of Rush will likely do more to increase the number
> >>of conservatives in the world than mere procreation anyway.
> >
> >Those who confuse Mr. Limbaugh with the Second Coming should realize
> >that he is first a businessman and then a conservative.
> 
> So what's your point? Besides Limbaugh is a successful businessman, which
> makes him far more qualified to speak out on economic issues than most of
> the people who are filling Clinton's cabinet.

By that standard, Rush is much less qualified than Ross Perot, Ted Turner,
or Jane Fonda...

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Subject: Re: Why can SNL get away with it....
Reply-To: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:59:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.230204.27635@tellab5.tellabs.com>, linda@tellabs.com (Linda Jensen) writes:

|>> 
|>> I seem to recall someone here trying to organize a movement to get Rush
|>> off the air after the "Chelsea episode".  I can't help wondering why we
|>> haven't heard from that person, who should certainly be outraged after 
|>> the SNL episode given her(his?) level of outrage to Rush's tasteless 
|>> "Chelsea humor".  Perhaps she is too busy organizing a movement to ban
|>> SNL...
|>> 
|>> 
|>> -lisa
|>> 
|>	Perhaps that was me?  I don't recall anyone discussing
|>	revocation of Rush's broadcasting license...(but you're
|>	a good little Rush fan for jumping to that conclusion. He's
|>	taught you well). 

What a kneejerk reaction.  I didn't say anything about being a "Rush fan". 
In fact I called his Chelsea joke tasteless.  Even though I didn't see 
the show in which he ridiculed Chelsea (in fact I rarely watch or listen 
to him for that matter), when I heard about it my immediate reaction was that 
it was tasteless and uncalled for.  I did see the SNL sketch though, and I 
frankly couldn't believe it... 

 
|>	BTW, how do you know that NBC hasn't received complaints?
|>	Is it because they are not on the air 15 hours a week
|>	belly-aching about how unfairly they are treated and 
|>	p*ssing and moaning about all the horrible people who
|>	criticize them and write letters and organize boycotts?
|>	Thought so....

Yes, but the question is did YOU send them any complaints?  Or try to
organize a movement to protest or boycott SNL? (Similiar to what you 
called for here regarding Limbaugh's show because of your outrage)  

 
|>	For the record, I thought the SNL thing was cruel, too....
|>	maybe more so since Chelsea's peers are more
|>	likely to be watching SNL......


I agree.


-lisa

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: ryanm@stein.u.washington.edu (Ryan Mcneilly)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re:  Disappointment with this group
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:37:09 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Dec15.183935.24564@athena.mit.edu> gonzalez@athena.mit.edu (John R Gonzalez) writes:
>C'mon Ryan, don't you know the old addage "know thine enemy",
>how do you expect to be able to defend your beliefs if they 
>never come into question.  I think some of the most interest-
>ing posts come from the liberals.  I get to see what I used
>to sound like...
>
>
>				John R. Gonzalez


I have no problem with having my ideas challenged at all (it happens every
day!).  What I don't like is that this is a *.fan.rush.... group.  I felt
it's name implied that we would discuss things that Rush has pointed out. 
All I see is a bunch of libs calling other people names and such.  The
only fruitful discussions I see are creating a moderated news group for
conservatives.

Like Voltair said -- I may not agree but I will fight for your right to
speak (or something like that).  I enjoy fighting it out on issues but
when all you get back is "The Asshole" and other crap it makes it pretty
hard to enjoy it.  What I don't like is that the libs act so childish in
their postings (not all but it seem that way).  I do think many liberals
have good points that are worth discussing in a rational manner but I
don't see it very much here.

--Ryan

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Moral:  Protect the 2nd Amendment!

My comments and opinions are my own and nobody elses!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: Ho ho ho...
Keywords: joke, funny, ha ha, lighten up
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:01:02 GMT

In article <BzCxEr.24CM@austin.ibm.com> jpietro@perelandra.austin.ibm.com writes:
>I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but in the spirit of Christmas,
>conservatism, and comic-relief, I submit this for your enjoyment...
>
>======================================================================
>
>On the first day of Liberalism, my President gave to me...
>   ...a tax hike with a spending program.

  [rest of well-done "12 days of Xmas" lampoon deleted]

Well, I thought it was pretty funny, and I'm a liberal...
You should videotape it ASAP and send it to Rush.
He is in woeful need of fresh material.

I noticed that last night he harped on Clinton's economic 
summit because they didn't include congress -- Of course, 
if it was a Republican administrative summit that didn't 
include congress, he'd be applauding...  And so it goes.



-- 
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Phys.& Astr.Dept.    ///// / /  /  *|*  \  \ \ \\\\\      there you are!"
Univ.of Delaware    ((((( ( (  (  * + *  )  ) ) )))))   -> Buckaroo Banzai
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh GIFs Please
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:32:41 GMT

aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison) writes:

>     ANY GIF of this obese clown would be tasteless, doncha think?  And the
>word "erotic" doesn't even vaguely apply to the man.  Anyway, why not try
>anonymous ftp to right-wing.losers.org.  Rush GIFS are available in the
>/pub/GIF/fat-guys/talk-show directory.  Good luck.

Hmmmm...do I sense an absence of love here?  Perhaps you're hurting because
you just realized that the Bozone brothers are actually going to be
running things and it's too late to take back your vote.

Stay with us, Vern.  We understand your shame and frustration and share your
pain.  Over time we can cure you of your perverted orientation, especially
if you listen to Rush's daily radio show or read the summaries that are
posted here to help in the treatment of lost souls such as yourself.  When
you are ready, you can advance to watching Rush's television show and see
the happy faces of others who have survived the same shock and horror of
liberal fantasy.  Just take it one day at a time and remember that we're
here to help you.

|===========================================================================|
|Don Wiggins, German-Irish-American    | Success is getting what you want.  |
| & Advance Scout for the Baby Boomers | Happiness is wanting what you get. |
|Internet: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |     -- Brother Dave Gardner        |
|===========================================================================|
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: The Religious Right (was: Somalia
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:56:18 CST


In <1gimo3INNrq7@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

> The media likes to scare people about religion.  When was the last time
> you saw a television show featuring a outwardly Christian person who wasn't a 
> sanctimonious jerk?

Certainly not "The 700 Club".  

They must be part of the media consperacy...

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,talk.bizarre,talk.politics.misc
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: Smile-ia
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:27:45 CST


In article <12DEC199222261985@utarlg.uta.edu>, b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (General Boycott) writes:
> In article <Bz65G7.Fvw@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins) writes...
> >dnm9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Neal Messina) writes:
> > 
> >>By the way, can someone come up with a good substitute for the :) ?
> >>I hate using it--it reminds me of those damn Have a nice day buttons.
> > 
> >Sure.  Just add a verb in parentheses:  "Clinton will go down in
> >history as one of our greatest presidents.  (wink)"
> 
> Never mind me, just passing through, truth in advertising, `ya know.'
> 
> Quotes always reminded me of =raised= "eye" brows. So I reckon a single" 
> might suffice?? (And introduce a bit o' symmetry, eh".)
> 
> Yeah right.

Why don't you guys go learn kanji? That'll invest your posting with a
whole new sense of meaning.

It'll keep the smilies out of talk.bizarre for a few years, too.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Homos and the Draft (Re: Homophobes in the Military)
Followup-To: alt.politics.homosexuality
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:44:31 GMT

Followups are set to alt.politics.homosexuality.

In article <Bz5r1K.9wK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins) writes:

>Except for an occasional screw-up (play on words unintended), the
>military has not knowingly drafted, enlisted, or commissioned anyone whom
>they knew to be homosexual.  Those who are later found to be such are quickly
>separated.

Separated from what?  See the film BEFORE STONEWALL if you really
believe this.

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\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Homos and the Draft (Re: Homophobes in the Military)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:15:44 GMT

wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins) writes:
>Not true.  Except for an occasional screw-up (play on words unintended), the
>military has not knowingly drafted, enlisted, or commissioned anyone whom
>they knew to be homosexual.  Those who are later found to be such are quickly
>separated.  Admittedly, my experience only goes back three decades so I
>can't address what the policy was prior to that.  The "need every bit of
>help they can get" argument sounds more like a Billary initiative.
*----
Then you must have had your head buried in the ground.  During the
Viet Nam war, gays were very definitely included in the draft and the
army.  How do you think they separated the liars from those who really
were gay?  And it was publicly acknowledged that expulsion of gays
was suspended during the gulf war.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.president.clinton
Subject: Clinton and Values
From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:12:48 EST
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.clinton
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

If the Republicans are so eager to defend values in American politics,
then why do they insist upon extirpating values from foreign policy,
that is, playing realpolitik, with no regard to values.  (Not that
I don't understand the need to ally with non-democratic regimes, mind
you, but that the Republicans, who claim to hold values *above all*,
seems to be hypocritical here.)  Clinton has said that he favors
promotion of democratic values as a legitimate goal of U.S. foreign 
policy.

Followups to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, please; alt.politics.clinton might
be interested too.

Chris



Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.warlord,alt.music.rush
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:26:40 -0500 
From: Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: RUSH?

Excerpts from netnews.alt.music.rush: 17-Dec-92 RUSH? by Matt
Welsh@db.TC.Cornell 

> Hi. I saw a CD in the store today by a band called "Rush"
> and was wondering if this has anything to do with the movie
> "Rush" or maybe Rush Limbaugh (who is really funny!)
> Should I get it? I didn't like that movie much but I listen
> to Rush Limbaugh every day on the radio and heard he had an
> album out.

Actually Matt, you're more correct than you know.  The cd you saw was
actually a collection of vocal interpretations of the _Rush_ soundtrack
(featuring that loveable ol' dinosaur Eric Clapton, I might add), as
performed by everyone's favorite reactionary, Rush Limbaugh.  The
package is too good to even consider passing up.  I myself have 16
copies.  Go buy many right now.

>  
> Sorry if this is a newbie question but I've never heard
> of the BAND "Rush" before.

No problem.  We experienced cyberspace cadets just live for this sort of
thing.  You will learn to as well, no doubt, pretty soon.

>  
> Any ideas? Thanks.

Glad to be of service.  Call anytime.  1-800-EAT-SPAM.

>  
> mdw


Joe
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.warlord,alt.music.rush
From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: RUSH?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:22:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.203322.514@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>with the band since Neil Peart (one of the best damn drummers in the world)
>replaced him before their second album, he really is the inspiration for
>quite a few of their songs, e.g. Red Lenses, New World Man, etc...

OK, let's see if I can stop laughing long enough to post this...


A general trivia question for all of those bigger Rush-heads than myself:

Does anyone know what happened to Rutsy?  Yes, I realize that he wasn't
terribly great (in comparison to Peart, of course), but does anyone know
why he left the band, where he is today, what he thinks of Rush right now,
etc.?

Just a curious question...

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.bush,alt.president.clinton
From: dnm9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Neal Messina)
Subject: Re: The Religious Right (was: Somalia
Reply-To: dnm9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Neal Messina)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:35:04 GMT

In article <1gimo3INNrq7@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Dec13.180445.3366@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino) writes:
>>|> >
>>|> >   We can tell how many Republicans like Pat Buchanan, based on the
>>|> >results of his bid for the presidency; he got perhaps 25% of the
>>|> >Republicans to vote for him.  As for Pat Robertson, I would guess he
>>|> >claims about the same.  The Religious Right, as it is called, does not
>>|> >constitute a majority of the party, otherwise we would have seen Pat
>>|> >R. come close to nomination at some point.  My personal experience,
>>|> >having met a wide variety of Republicans, I can say maybe about 10%
>>|> >felt a strong affinity with either man.
>
>As for Pat Buchanan, the numbers he got in the primaries are not very
>significant in measuring his popularity.  The polls I saw taken of people
>who voted for Buchanan showed that a majority did so to "send a message
>to Bush" about dissatisfaction with the economy.  Also, you should realize
>that the numbers of people who voted in primaries is much smaller than
>the electorate at large.
>
>Also, what do we really mean by Republican?  It has meaning
>on different levels.  It can mean someone who voted for Bush, it can mean
>a registered Republican, it can mean a person who gave $50 to the RNC,
>it can mean party activist, it can mean a candidate for office.  In the 
>U.S. Senate in the 1980's you could see Jesse Helms and Lowell Weicker
>calling themselves Republicans even though they hardly ever agreed on any
>issue.

I was thinking along the lines of the delegates at the convention and
those who are registered as Republicans.


>
>>|> 
>>|> USAToday took a poll at the Republican convention and found that a majority
>>|> (I believe ~54%) of the delegates would consider themselves "born-again
>>|> Christians."
>>|> 
>>|> Scary food for thought.
>
>President Carter was a born again Christian.  Did that scare you?  Actually
>I am not surprised that USA today would make a big deal out of that stat.
>The media likes to scare people about religion.  When was the last time
>you saw a television show featuring a outwardly Christian person who wasn't a 
>sanctimonious jerk?
>
>William F. Tell
>UC Berkeley

I would agree that people tend to associate Christian Republicans with
those that they see on TV throwing around fetuses at anti-abortion rallies.
It is this type whom I purport to be in the minority of Republicans.

Sanctimonious jerk...<snicker, snicker>

Regards,


David
dnm9@columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: ryanm@stein.u.washington.edu (Ryan Mcneilly)
Subject: Conservative vs Liberal Discussions...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:11:12 GMT


Okay, it is time to clear up my post about "Dissapointment with this
newsgroup...".  I received many messages (positive and negative), most of
which have been quite polite and interesting.

One mentioned that I hate liberals.  WRONG.  Half of my relatives are
liberals but I don't hate them.  I dislike what they represent is all, I
do love them though.

Some think that I want only conservative discussions.  WRONG.  I enjoy
discussing different issues with different people (liberals or
conservatives).  Anyways life would be boring if everyone agreed with me. 
What I dislike (extreemly) is when the discussions begin as fruitful but
end up as a name calling thread that you send to never-never land.

Imagine this:  You are discussing a specific issue with a friend of an
opposing view (yes I do have some like this) and a few people with
opposing views begin the join in (I don't mind).  A few of the new people
begin to get frustrated and cuss at you and call you a facist pig (in my
case) or a liberal commie (in other cases) for your views.  It begins to
escalate into a name calling session.  Do you think that the discussion was
at all fruitful or that the view were discussed in a proper fasion?  I
don't beleive they were.  This is what I am seeing on the group.

BTW: I did scan through the posts when I first joined so I saw everything
that everybody posted from the begining.  I was quite informed about this
before my statement was made and still stand on it.

If I sounded like facist, intolerent jerk in my first post I appologize. 
If my view of how discussions should flow or the mood should be makes me
nonunderstanding or intolerant of others beliefs than that is your problem.

Have a good day!  --Ryan

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  Ryan McNeilly                    Internet: ryanm@u.washington.edu
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"You can't deal from a position of weakness"  --Alfred Thayer Mahan
Moral:  Protect the 2nd Amendment!

My comments and opinions are my own and nobody elses!!!!!

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: gus3@ellis.uchicago.edu (Christian Gustafson)
Subject: Der Limbaugh-bund
Summary: Just who listens to Rush Limbaugh?
Keywords: Advertisements,Madison_Ave,Power_Elite
Reply-To: gus3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:35:29 GMT

Hey dittoheads, since Rush has been on the air for several years now, 
does anyone know anything about the demographic content of his audience,
for both the radio and the television shows?  Although I presume that he
appeals primarily to white folks like myself, I am more curious about the 
age, income, and educational break-down of his listeners.  

Listening to his show on WLS AM radio here in Chicago, the commercials tend
to be a strange, if repetitive, mix of self-taught foreign language and 
memory enhancement tape sets; spots for an oriental rug dealer on the near
North side; and the usual mix of auto sales and life insurance type ads.  
There is one rather strange spot, sort of a daily update, for speculation in 
heating oil futures contracts of $5,000; is this a nation-wide ad?

The first time I saw his TV show (CH 66), actually about a month ago, I had 
a hearty laugh when I saw the ads for _NR_ & the _Am Spectator_, although 
I was not surprised by the spot for the NRA.  Excepting, of course, Jesse's
fiefdom, the tacks that mark the distribution of his TV broadcast looked 
pretty evenly distributed across America.  So who's watching/listening?

I cringe whenever the Unconvinced paint Rush's fans as a lockstep mob of
bigoted idiots, for this simply is not true, but I would like to know if 
anyone has any more concrete data on who they indeed are.  Even any tips
on what commercials he pulls in nation-wide would help.  As a newcomer to
the Limbaugh phenomenon, I am pleased at how well he has reached out to much
of middle-America, spreading good sense to the laity, the "conservatives 
of the heart" that Patrick Buchanan spoke of at the RNC, and which GHWB 
never did understand.  (I have a transcript of PJB if you would like a copy.)
cg

p.s. And I am terribly pleased at the response to the idea of a Conservative 
group here on Usenet, which really should be moderated (regulated?!)  Once 
we have a moderator, we Conservatives can move ahead with Bold Planning (sic).

p.s.s. You mean that the producers of "All in the Family" did NOT intend 
for us to sympathize with ol' Archie?  You must be joking!
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