HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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Nf-From: tisdec.tis.tandy.com!kevinl    Nov 19 08:35:00 1992


	The Borland C++ 3.1 w/App FW does indeed take up about 50Meg.  "What makes
it worth that" is the full source for the libraries, extensive Object Oriented
DOS and Windows Class libraries, the command line compiler, the DOS
IDE/Compiler, the Windows IDE/Compiler, the DOS Debugger, the Windows Debugger,
the Assempler (which has object oriented features--don't ask!), loads of
examples, lots and lots of utilities, and much more that I can't think of.
	It's an excellent product, and Borland C++ for OS/2 is all I'm waiting for
to make my move to OS/2 complete.  Borland C++ 3.1 is the only thing that keeps
a DOS partition on my machine, and if I can't have Borland for OS/2, I won't
stay with OS/2.  (Biased, but I'm a professional programmer--and nothing else
even comes close!)

Cheers :')
From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: os/2 credits secret s
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:44:47 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.os2.misc: 14-Nov-92 os/2 credits secret s
by richard wyble@channel1.c 
> Does anyone know how to get rid of this c**p? It obviously occupies some 
> amount of real estate on the disc, and obviously waits for that ctr-alt-shft 
> combination, ergo, it wastes time and resources.

CHILL OUT!!!  It wastes no processing time whatsoever.  The WPS is
waiting for keypresses and processing them anyways (arrows, etc)  This
is about two lines in a switch statement (no, I'm not implying OS/2 was
written in C :))  Anyway, if you're so strapped on harddrive space that
you can't afford the 64209 bytes that it takes up (yes, thats exact)
then you're a fool.  Here's the sceneraio: You've worked for three years
on a programming assignment, and you go talk with the people that you
work for and you say "is anyone every going to know that I spent three
years of my life making this thing?"  And you know what your boss says? 
He sayes "hell no, its our property, not yours"   Well, I'm sure IBMers
know about this little feature that they put into OS/2, and I'm proud to
have it there.

Steve


"Love is international, and if you stand or if you fall, just let them
know you gave your all, worry about it later!" -Aztec Camera
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan)
Subject: Re: OS2 servpak download problem.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:09:50 GMT

turabe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Toshiyuki Urabe) writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I have problem when I tried to dwonload spg3xx.dsk files into
> my 3.5 inch FDD. When I try to download it into FDD, disk overflow
> happend. I found that the some of filesize of spg3xx is more than
> 147000kbyte and FDD has only 145000kb. So I can,t.
> How do I download this into 3.5 FDD?
> Thanks for any sugesstion.
>
> -Toshi,

You need to download the files onto larger media (e.g, a hard disk), then
run LOADDSKF.EXE on the files.  This will place the image correctly onto
your diskettes.

-- 

Jack Tan                                     Sattinger's Law:
jahk@uiuc.edu                       It works better if you plug it in.
From: lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (m.l. gore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: os/2 2.0 on a zenith
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:52:56 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <Bxw2Ct.K62@fiu.edu>, ravi@serss0 (Ravi Singh) writes:
>Most people keep telling me that OS/2 2.0 cannot run on any Zenith
>386's or 386sx's. Can you tell me if this is true or not?
>If there is a way to do it, can someone send an explanation on it.
>       Maybe there is a patch or something. Thanks in advance.
>
>                               Ravi
>                                       (like ravioli without the "oli")
>
    Working at my microcomputer store, I had the displeasure of trying to
    install OS/2 on a 'new' Z-Station.

    Brief history of Zenith: they stink. First it was faulty motherboards,
    then daughter boards for CPUs and now Z-BIOS. This machine barfed whenever
    I tried to install. OS/2 said there was a BIOS conflict. I called IBM, got
    a reliable techician, and there was no recorded Support for Zenith on
    their Databases.

    One of the problems is also Zenith's. I don't blame IBM for this (though
    my boss, and Zenith do!)

    If it makes you feel better, I did trick the damn thing into installing.
    When I got the message, I rebooted, and reformatted the drive. It runs
    raifly well. Only real crashing is in seamless windows mode. I can guess
    that this has something to do with the fact that these machines have SVGA
    built into the board. They couldn't be simple and use an ET4000 card,
    noooo, they want to be special =}

                                                 best of luck,

                                                 bvl
-- 

  Lehigh University-AXP
  lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu

            OS/2 2.0...anything else is just a DOS.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Subject: Re: Where is GNUS
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:25:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.053224.11512@midway.uchicago.edu>  
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.041433.22623@grebyn.com> richk@grebyn.com (Richard  
Krehbiel) writes:
> >>   >I can't seem to find GNUS anywhere on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Can
> >>   >someone give me a pointer?
> >>   I do not think anyone has released a version of GNUS for OS/2's emacs
> >>   -- yet.
> >No changes are needed to GNUS to make it work with OS/2, when using a
> >local news spool.  I'm pretty sure NNTP wouldn't work though; is this
> >what you mean?
> 
> Yes, Richard, thanks for clarifying that.  I should have been more
> precise.

Yes, I got it installed and working with a local news spool this weekend;  
thanks for those who pointed out where to get a copy.  The machine I 
installed it on has only SLIP access to the net, and even that is being
overhauled at the moment, so I couldn't check whether NNTP worked.

Will NNTP definitely not work, or hasn't anyone actually taken a look at it
yet?

Rolfe
-- 
Rolfe Tessem				Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com				New York City
(212) 463-0029				(212) 463-7049 fax
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: How do I set priority
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:44:59 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

I've searched for PRIOR, PRIORITY, PRIORITIES in the online doc and didn't 
see much, Im going to keep searching as well

What I needto find out is how to set the priority of programs.

For the sake of argument I'm using examples from windows. (ugh)

I want the program using the modem to have a setting of about 100,
the session I'm working on to be set to about 80, and a couple of back-
ground sessions say 10 or 20.  

That's the idea at least.  Another way to explain is I'd like the modem
program to have 6 time slices, my session 4, and the background session
to 1 time slice.   

Is there a way to do this ??  

Any help is appreciated.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Paradise says it is not working on 2.0 video drivers
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:57:42 GMT

In article <gershon.721692023@husc11> gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:
> I talked to Paradise technical support today and they said that they are
> not currently developing OS/2 2.0 drivers due to "lack of demand". I
> happen to have a demand and I am annoyed.  The guy I talked to said that
> they hadn't gotten any calls about it. so...
> 
> The number for Pradise technical support is 1-800-832-4778 (US).  Anyone
> who has one of their boards and wants drivers, please call them and let
> them know that there *is* a demand.
> 
>                                              --Ethan Gershon
>                                              gershon@husc.harvard.edu
> 
> ps: Paradise makes video cards in case that wasn't clear.


One of the reasons why there is a lack of demand is because people will more
likely change to another video card and sell an old Paradise than hassle
Paradise about it. We sell good numbers of trident an Tseng cards to would-be
OS/2 users. They don't phone Paradise....they throw the card away!
 
Steve

-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: tell me i'm wrong (braindead design in os2)
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:36:58 GMT

richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:

>The FAT file system still stores files in all upper case.

Anyone using the MKS toolkit for dos or os2 knows that this statement
is incorrect.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
GE knew there was lots of money to be made in the diagnostic medical
machine field since it was only a matter of time before people started
getting sick from the effects of all of GE's toxic and radioactive
waste dumping. I expect GE to get into the Mortuary business next.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Which IRQ's and DMA's does OS/2 use?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.154650.44834@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Does anyone have a list of all the IRQ's and DMA's that OS/2
>uses?

OS/2 doesn't use the IRQs and DMA channels per se.  The hardware is
designed that way, and most operating systems/software use those
system resources.  I would suggest consulting the people in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, since they have extensive lists.  Check
their FAQ List first, obviously.

-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: A minor problem with sceme pallettes
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:30:50 GMT

In article <BxuBI3.A56@ns1.nodak.edu> person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:
>
>I was playing with color schemes and I dragged a spring palette onto the
>desktop. I then decided to change it back, so I put a default palette on the
>desk.  
>
>Now, the desktop menu has a shaded selector versus the outline selector it
>had previously.  How do I change this. 
>
>If I drag a default scheme onto the desk, it changes it to the outline
>selector, but doesn't save it across shutdown/reboot

Try doing a refresh on the desktop (its on the same menu as shutdown)
once or twice after changing back to the default palette.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2SYS.ini file size: Interim solution.
From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:40:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Keywords: OS2SYS.INI file size growing

>The cpyini program that I an d (I suspect) most people are using is the
>one in the hobbes uploads directory, which does not have a companion program.
>In my opinion, it is much easier to use than the checkini/copyini programs
>which have been around for quite some time now.

Thanks; I'll check it out. I've received some private email asking about
the copyini program that I used: it is part of wpstools.zip, which is on
hobbes.

>I, too, COMPLETELY trashed my system useing that damn checkini thing.  I
>ended up having to reinstall GA and the SP to get my system back up.  I
>advise strongly against checkini...and as a precaution, I advise against
>the copyini program that comes with checkini also.  I don't trust them
>anymore.  Sure, the mistakes could have been mine, but the documentation
>that comes with checkini sucks big time, so how the heck should I have known??

In my case, the mistakes _were_ mine; checkini gave me an opportunity to
correct some errors, but advised against it. I ignored the advice. 

While the documentation for checkini is insufficient for this
nonprogrammer ("sucks big time" overstates the case, but it isn't enough
if you don't sort of know what you're doing), the documentation for
copyini was adequate and the program worked as advertised. This user is
grateful to the author, who provided a useful and effective tool with
no thought of profit. Yeah, I'd like an idiot-proof free maintenance
utility, too, but I don't feel entitled to one and I don't feel entitled
to bash someone for generously providing a good, useful, simple program
that works as advertised, plus a more sophisticated one that I misused.
(Actually, I do feel entitled to an idiot-proof free utility, but only
from IBM and only in the form of a patch or update. Now that we have an
APAR number, that should eventually appear.)

Not a flame, just an expression of appreciation, interjected for
balance. I, too, will be wary of checkini, but also of unneeded or
excessive precaution.

--David
-- 
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From: frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Mitsumi CD  and MTMCDS.sys
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:38:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1560
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Nov12.192241.13856@midway.uchicago.edu>, sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov11.183734.15024@u.washington.edu> mts@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sean Milligan) writes:
|> >I just got cdsys.zip and tried to get it to work but it won't install.  It says
|> >no SCSI device found.  Driver not installed.  I'm wondering if anyone out there
|> >knows what the different switches are for CDROM_G.SYS.  The only file included
|> >says use /g/i/m:4 but doesn't explain otherwise.
|> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|> 
|> You should use a specific DOS session -- see Appendix E of your
|> Installation Guide and/or the online Command Reference under VMDISK
|> for more information.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0g, available from
|> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
|> Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
|> of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]

I'm looking to buy the Mitsumi CDROM drive to install the Development software
from IBM. IS THE MITSUMI CDROM drive supported by OS/2 or a driver?
-- 

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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: COMDEX Report!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 09:59:02 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <BxxyEM.H8v@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
forwards from FidoNet:
>From: MARK WOOLWORTH
>Developers CD-ROMs
>(11/92 version) are being handed out, as are tons of T-Shirts,
>caps, and buttons, all emblazened with prominent OS/2 logos.

Oh well... Wish I could have made Comdex this year.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
           "Cat: Four legs and an attitude." -- Jim Reese
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kitchin@avo.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin)
Subject: Re: A neat idea for speeding up seamless WIN-OS2
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:39:39 GMT

Startup up progman (or any other windows program) in seamless mode does
speed up the starting of future seamless programs.  It is for a really
simple reason.  When you start up your first windows program, OS/2 must
start up a copy of Windows itself.  This takes time (if you used Windows
under DOS you'll have an idea of how long it takes, a few seconds on my
system which is pretty fast).  When you startup a program seamless while
another is already running (unless they specifies a separate session),
Windows is already running and so the startup is faster.  Each program
that is marked for a separate session as well as each full screen Windows
session require their own copy of Windows running and take the usual 
startup time.  If all programs running under windows terminate, then
that copy of windows also terminates and the next window's program you
run will pay the startup cost again.

It makes sense when you know what it is doing.  I first learned about
it from an IBM person who was showing us some stuff.  I *think* I may
have seen it in some tips document but I'm not sure.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: buhr@umanitoba.ca (Kevin Andrew Buhr)
Subject: Re: trident SVGA with SP
Organization: University of Manitoba, Canada
	<1992Nov19.194726.12502@eng.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:52:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.194726.12502@eng.umd.edu> hamilton@eng.umd.edu
(Andrew W. Hamilton) writes:
>  Does the service pack really support trident SVGA, or is this
>  just a big lie.  I installed it, and it claims to be running
>  in SVGA, but it looks like the same old 640x480 crap to me.
>  Am I missing something?

Even if it *says* your display is "Super VGA", you *must* select "OS/2
System -> System Setup -> Selective Install", select the "Display"
checkbox, remind OS/2 you have a "Super VGA", select the desired
resolution, and reinsert all the diskettes from your original OS/2
diskettes and the two display driver diskettes from the Service Pack
when prompted.

Then, when you restart your system, OS/2 *should* give you a Super VGA
desktop.

Kevin <buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
From: price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Does OS/2 have driver for DIAM. SPD STAR...
Date: 20 Nov 1992 18:31:35 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:


>To answer your question about OS/2 drivers, OS/2 (as of the Service
>Pak, XR06055) now includes Tseng 4000 drivers for all relevant 256
>color modes (640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768).  The SpeedStar 24 uses
>the Tseng 4000 chipset.  However, the 24X does not.


THe 24X has Western Digital / Paradise chips as a basis. DOS programs running
in full screen sessions seem to be able to use some of the features. Word
Perfect can use the 132 column text mode, so can Quatro Pro. (etc)

--
chad
price@helios.unl.edu
cprice@molecular.unmc.edu
From: rider@geloser.login.qc.ca (Serge Ayotte)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: copyini vs cpyini
Keywords: OS2SYS.INI file size growing
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:49:22 GMT
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

> 
> While we're on the subject of the massively growing INI file, and
> after apparently ruling out DeskPic as the culprit, is there anyone
> NOT using 4OS2 who suffers from the problem?  (In other words, shall
> 4OS2 be nominated as the culprit?)
> 
> -- 

[ther's this fellow that keeps jumping around in this corner waving his
hand francticly!] <grin>

Tim, I have that INI growing trouble too and I'm running plain GA/SP,
but it is not major... I used CPYINI on it around last friday and my
OS2SYS.INI is UP to 972,080 (dated TODAY on the file listing0 and the
OS2.INI is at 155,862 compared to something around 100K each (grumble,
grumble why did I deleted them...).

So I doubt that 4OS2 is culprit.
(System is a 386DX, 25 Mhz, plain vanilla VGA, 8 megs RAM, 2 harddisk of
40 meg each [and running out of room every time....]).

.sig under construction... Might be long because lack of idea?
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From: kevinc@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Monthly planner problem - SPP problem ?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:58:02 GMT

gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner) writes:

>smadden@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Steve Madden)  writes:
>>I'm wondering if anyone out there has had the same problem I'm
>>getting with the OS/2 applet, Monthly planner. What happens is
>>that all my afternoon entries are being displayed in the
>>morning.[details deleted]

>Yes! I'm glad to see someone else is having the same problem.  I'm 
>definitely going to call someone at IBM about this one.  I'll post 
>any definitive answer(s) I get from them.

Hey, great!  I have this problem too, I solved :-) it by not using the
planner module.

Kevin
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sdun@isma.demon.co.uk (Stephen Dunne)
Subject: OS/2 Comm Programs? 
Distribution: world
Organization: International Securities Market Association
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:39:12 +0000

PmComm is a shareware PM Comms package.. I'm not too impressed with its VT100
emulation but everything else is fine. It's just been modified to 32 bit.

I sometime think the authors attitude is slightly suspect but perhaps I was
in a sensitive mood! :-)

You can get PmComm from:

	Multi-Net Communications 
	15702 Black Bear Ct.
	Klamath Falls
	OR 97601
	Voice (+1) 503-883-8099
	Data  (+1) 503-883-8197 HST

In fact you can pay using a CC and get the registered version online instead
of the demo!

Stephen Dunne
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