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From: 6881300@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast / Aladdin
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 11:12:41 PST

>A friend of mine said he spotted a BatB Japanese import.
>
>| Michael Keene         |

More likely it was The Little Mermaid.  It's been stated here before
that the Beauty and the Beast LD will be released in Sept. 93.

Cordially,
............................................................................
Roy Sette                                       Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.
                                                1111 Lockheed Way, O/82-10
rsette@lmsc.lockheed.com                        Sunnyvale CA 94088-3504
From: klr@umbc3.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Holy Grail - Any new news? (I got it!)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:42:03 -0500
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
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In article <93005.123951WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.183202.26451@njitgw.njit.edu>, meg5184@hertz.njit.edu
>(Starman) says:
>>
>>WOW!
>>
>>     Other neat surprises is the Japanese dialog on Analog track 1 and
>>some other things you're just going to have to see for yourself.
>
>Now I'm getting a bit confused here.  Why would a new Criterion Collection
>release of "The Holy Grail" have a Japanese soundtrack on it anywhere?
>I thought we were talking about a US release not scheduled to be in the stores
>until August 1993 (or later if I remember Criterion).  Are some folks getting
>shipped a Japanese import instead?
>
>What gives?

I guess if you had seen the "original theater trailer" (which is
thoughtfully included on the Criterion disk) the Japanese dialog would
make "some" sense.  The disk is set up with the full score and dialog on
the digital tracks, Messrs Terry and Terry discussing the film on
analog track 2 (right) and the full movie dubbed in Japanese on analog
track 1 (left).  It also incudes a segment of the movie (sublimental)
which is dubbed in Japanese (digital track), with English subtitles, and
the English dialon on the analog tracks (oddly enough, they don't
exactly match).

And, the added 28 seconds of Castle Antrax is HYSTERICAL.

I got mine on 12/30/92 in the Nortern Virginia area.

-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
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From: klr@umbc3.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Holy Grail: Price?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 23:41:45 -0500
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
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In article <1993Jan6.200057.9940@ac.dal.ca> tominatr@ac.dal.ca writes:
>
>What's the price of the Holy Grail LD?
>    - Tom N.

This may sound flip, but I never even noticed.  I just saw the one copy,
grabbed it along with the copy of Baron Munchaussen and ran for the
check out register.  Let me go find the receipt....$US 45.99 at The
Video Station in Alexandria Virginia.

-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
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From: u0f98@keele.ac.uk (DJ Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases,rec.video
Subject: Dances With Wolves 4hr version
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:20:38 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England


I bought the 4hr version on video from WH Smiths for #19.99 and on
comparing it with the 3hr widescreen version with the use of a double
decker video, the 4hr widescreen version was slightly wider. Does anyone
know the reason for this or is it one of life's unsolved mysteries?
	Dom
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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Now LD side 4
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:11:58 GMT

In article <h=-3wsr@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>I finally watched side 4 of LBX Apolcaypse Now yesterday.  To my 
>surprise, the credit section on side 4 was not letterboxed.  Instead, 
>they were "squeezed."   Even worse, some of the names were chopped 
>off.  What gives?  Is my copy defective (side 4 from pan & scan 
>version)?

Nothing wrong with your copy, but if the sides are getting chopped
off your TV probably has 10-15% overscan and you should try to get it 
adjusted.  I only noticed the credits falling into the TOP edge in
a few places on my TV.

The reason for the placement of the credits on side 4, when there is
plenty of room on side 3 (13 mins), is that the film originally ended
without credits, in the theater (I'm not sure if that was just at
coastal openings or when it played in the interior as well).  You
will note that some of the credits are incredibly small and hard to
read and that the disc producers had the good sense to press side 4
in CAV so you can stop the frames to help read the credits.  Since
they went to all this trouble for the credits, I suspect they transfered
them full screen, squeezed, so that they would be a little larger
to aide in reading them.  Quite unique, when you think about it:
a whole disc side especially designed for the credits.  And an ironic
twist on the usual situation where the credits are letterboxed and
the film is not.


-- 
	The answer is never simple and is always changing.
    William L.R. (Bill) Cruce       INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu 
Neurobiology Dept, NE Ohio U Coll of Med, POB 95, Rootstown, OH 44272 
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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: * Lawrence of Arabia *  Criterion vs. RCA version??
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:50:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
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Lauren C. Howard (lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU) wrote:

> Anyone know how they compare?  I've seen the Cri version, but not
> the RCA/Columbia.  My other RCA/Columbia ld's are poorly mastered, even
> recent ones like Glory.

Criterion Collection CC1185L,  $125.00
Restored edition, CAV, 8 sides, 3M pressing, 2.0:1 letterbox, digital
surround sound, still-frame supplements, chapter marks. 
Motion supplements available as a separate CLV disc for $20.

Criterion Collection CC1197L,   $69.96
Restored edition, CLV, 4 sides, 3M pressing, 2.0:1 letterbox, digital
surround sound, motion supplements, chapter marks.

RCA/Columbia 50136,             $49.95
Restored edition, CLV, 4 sides, Pioneer (PVI) pressing, digital surround
sound, 2.0:1 letterbox, no supplements, chapter marks unknown.  Has closed
captioning, which may or may not have caused an extra generation of video
duplication.

RCA/Columbia VLD-3250           $44.95
Old TV edition, CLV, 4 sides, Pioneer (PVI) pressing, cropped, CX/stereo,
no supplements, no chapter marks.

All of the home video editions are from 35mm anamorphic source material,
which does not represent the full photographed height of the 65mm Super
Panavision 70 negative.  Now that Rank has a 70mm cinetel machine, I suppose
we can expect to see a new transfer someday (probably for HDTV).

Avoid the old cropped RCA/Columbia edition altogether.  The new widescreen
RCA/Col, and Criterions are all from the same video transfers.  The CC CLV
has only motion sups, and the CAV only still sups (although if you have the
CAV edition, Voyager will sell you side 4 of the CLV edition so that you
have complete sups).

I have the CC CLV, as the number (7) of side changes (even on a 2-sided
player), put me off the CAV, not to mention the price.  The sound and
picture (2.05:1) are excellent.  Surround is not an "addition".  The film
was shot on 65mm film with the intention of 70mm road-show prints with
6-channel mag tracks.  The Dolby Surround of the LD is a matrix 4-channel
mix-down of the 6, and not any kind of stereo- or mono-to-surround
synthesis.

Regards,                                              1001A East Harmony Road
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@csn.org                 Suite 503
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From: JACK.WEBB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jack Webb")
Subject: RE: Complete Tex Avery?
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:00:40 GMT

Burch Seymour (bseymour@encore.com) writes:

>I just got off the phone with Kenm Crane's. The still don't have The
>Complete Tex Avery set. No specific date were given to me. Just,
>this month. Anyone out there in net-land have any info? A real
>date? What's on it? Someone sent me e-mail the last time I asked
>this and gave the opinion that it was all MGM material, so it
>wouldn't duplicate my Golden Age of Looney Tunes discs. That would
>be nice. Can anyone confirm this?

This set is shown in the Whole Toon catalog.  I can confirm that it is all
from Tex's days at MGM, so you won't have to worry about Looney Tunes
duplication.  Sorry tho - while the catalog lists the 67 titles on the set,
I'm not including them in this post - I can't type THAT fast...  The write-up
does claim "every single cartoon directed by Tex Avery at MGM".

Some "clues" on availability from Whole Toon:

  "The Golden Age of Looney Tunes Volume 3" is shown as available in late
  November; "The Compleat Tex Avery" is shown as available in late December;
  I just got Volume 3 from them, so would deduce TCTA will be delayed as well.

  When I ordered Volume 3 in early December (along with the new Warner
  Brothers discs), the folk at Whole Toon warned me that LDs have almost
  always come in later than anticipated, and that the distributors won't give
  specific release dates (as opposed to tape, which generally come in on the
  specified DAY).  FYI - the Warner discs were shown as available mid December
  but I still haven't received them.

Hope this helps.

Jack
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From: lesterw@microsoft.com (Lester Waters)
Subject: Criterion "Prince of Tides"?
Date: 07 Jan 93 19:16:23 GMT
Organization: Microsoft
Distribution: usa

	I've heard that Criterion was unable to release the movie "Prince of Tides"
	because of some snafu with Barbara Streisand.  Anyway, the ended up having to
	destroy all of the laseridscs which they had already manufactured.  Fortunately,
	a few copies snuck out and have been appearing here and there.  A friend of
	mine purchased a copy at a comic book show (of all places). Anyway, I'm looking
	to get a copy of this Criterion "never released" title myself.  Anyone have
	any leads for me??  Email is best, but a posting is good too. Thanks.

					Lester Waters
					lesterw@microsoft.com
					(206) 882-8080

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: Holy Grail - Any new news? (I got it!)
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:07:51 GMT

In <1993Jan5.183202.26451@njitgw.njit.edu> meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
>The intro credits are rather scratchy. The print is supposed to be the
>BEST source known at the time. Well, what are you going to do?

I've seen a lot of prints of HOLY GRAIL, and this was, by far, the best I've
ever seen.  As you point out, some scratchy bits here and there -- but very
good outside of that.

Love that Japanese analog soundtrack!  (Why *did* they do that?)

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                               Escobar, the world's leading cocaine dealer,
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Japanese pressing of Cinderella
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 16:29:42 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:

> I have the Japanese CLV version (#PILA-1124).  I have been unable to 
> ascertain what the "LD+G" means.

Based on the name,  I would assume that (as with CD+G discs) "LD+G" discs 
have text and graphics stored in the digital-audio subcode area.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: wsherman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (William Sherman -Visualization)
Subject: Re: Pink Panther movies
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:39:16 GMT

I don't have any idea was LDs are currently in print, but I can
list (most of) the movies:

	The Pink Panther  (1964)
	A Shot in the Dark  (1964)
	Return of the Pink Panther  (1975)
	The Pink Panther Strikes Again  (1976)
	Revenge of the Pink Panther  (1978)
	Curse of the Pink Panther  (1983)

Note that this does not exactly match with the jacket, as I have
Stikes Again as the fourth movie.  I'm not sure who's wrong.

	Bill

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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Chaplin's masterpieces on LD
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:34:24 GMT

Some of the Charlie Chaplin's greatest films, including Modern Time 
and City Lights, will be out on CAV laserdisc from CBX/Fox (Image) 
this month.  They will retail for $70 and will be windowboxed.  I 
saw Modern Time (which is now available).  A STUNNING TRANSFER!  
It's almost free of scratches and video noises.
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From: davidv@davidv.sco.COM (David Vangerov)
Subject: Re: I'm looking for LBX LD of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"
Organization: Apathetic Surf Club (we don't surf and we don't care)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:06:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.163954.6996@das.harvard.edu>, dudek@endor.harvard.edu (Glen Dudek) writes:
|> Hi, I've been searching for a LBX version of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"
|> on LD, and have gotten some conflicting information.  Sight and Sound seems
|> to think that I might have to wait for a new pressing.  Does anyone
|> know the status of this LD, or if and when a new pressing might be planned?
|> You can email responses, and I'll summarize.  Thanks much in advance!

such a beast exists, but a) you have to get the CAV version, and
b) it's not in it's original aspect ratio. it's still cropped on
the sides and there's some very obvious panning (towards the end
with Mickey and Bugs falling you'll notice this). no clue as to
why they didn't transfer it correctly.

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From: luciw@apple.com (Bill Luciw)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Easy Rider LD?
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:09:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

Has anyone ever seen _Easy Rider_ available in a LD?

Thanks,

-- Bill

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From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:27:08 GMT
Subject: * WANTED: Lady And The Tramp VHS *
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases

Am looking for Walt Disney's *Lady And The Tramp* video for my 3 1/2 year
old daughter. Either a used video or perhaps a new one if someone knows
where I can find it! An alternative would be for me to rent a LD if
available and have my bro-in-law tape it, but would much prefer to
have the original video if possible.

Many thxs,

Graeme Harrison
San Jose, CA
(gh@hpmsd2.sj.hp.com)

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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Question
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:35:33 GMT

baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu (Dan "Viper" Baldwin) writes:

>	I am going to buy the Critereon version of Blade Runner
>and I was wondering if there is any difference in the quality(video
>and/or audio) between the CAV and CLV releases .  Any one know ?

I haven't seen the CAV version, but the CLV version is very good.  No 
trick play, but I only have to flip the disc over once. :)

I'd venture a guess that the CAV version won't be *that* much better than
the CLV.

>Thanks,
>Dan Baldwin   baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu

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From: hess@convex.com (Mark Hess)
Subject: Beauty and the Beast Release
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:15:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

anyone have any idea when Beauty and the Beast will be released on LD?

and while i am at it, how 'bout a possible release date for Aladin LD?

markhess
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From: dj@pixar.com (Dennis Jennings)
Subject: Opinions on best surround discs
Originator: dj@valkyrie.pixar.com
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:48:57 GMT

I would like to get people's opinions on what they consider to be the best
discs for showing off their surround systems. I'm not looking for discs that
are necessarily  the best sounding, but discs that have the best discrete
surround. "Days of Thunder" in the beginning comes to mind when the car is
making its first run around the track. You hear it in front of you while
watching it on the screen and then the rears kick on (by themselves) when
the car circles you. "To Live and Die in LA" also has a fair amount of rear
channel only segments. Any others that you are aware of?

Thanks.

dj@pixar.com
From: whiting@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (claude whiting)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Japanese pressing of Cinderella
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:37:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Subject: Re: Japanese pressing of Cinderella
Reply-To: whiting@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (claude whiting)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
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Keywords: 

From Bill Cruce:

* I have seen the fat CAV box, but I don't know what is in it.  The
*cost is rather high: about $170 vs.  $70 for the CLV version.  Both
*Sight and Sound and Laser Perceptions have or can get both versions.

I purchased the Japanese pressing of Cinderella last night at Tower Video for $49.99 (CLV).  They also 
had the CAV box set for $99.99.  I'm going to keep my eyes open for The Little Mermaid since I did not 
own a LD player at the time it was released here in the U.S.

Claude
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Indiana Jones --Last Crusade
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1993Jan4.165556.19770@colorado.edu> baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu (Dan "Viper" Baldwin) writes:
<
<I am the original poster and 
<	
<	1) My reciever has a test button and the left,right,center and
<		surround channels are are adjusted equally.

OK.

<	2) I have a true center channel speaker and this channel is
<		amplified with identical power as the left and right.

But you still didn't say if the speaker is equal in quality and how it sounds
when using phantom mode.

<Thanks for your replies--I actually may have a poor copy - I think that I'll
<try another one and see if that makes a difference.

All copies are the same.  They are digital audio and pressed from the same
master.  The audio CAN'T be different.  If the pressing was bad, the audio
would fail, it wouldn't lose center channel volume.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Criterion vs. Image
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:18:58 GMT

In article <Jan04.211006.65545@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, freedman@cs.colostate.edu (keith freedman) writes:
> I'm a little confused.  The impression I'm getting here is that people 
> like the Criterion pressed disks better for many reasons than the Image
> Entertanment pressed disks.  The confusion is: Image Entertainment
> distributed the Criterion disks.  Therefor, does Image Entertainment
> also press the Criterion disks, too?

You're thinking of three different things here:
- Production:  the process of finding a suitable film print, and creating
  the master to be duplicated.  Criterion is the undisputed leader in
  this regard.  Not only do they search for the best possible prints,
  but they also include lots of "goodies" on their discs (interviews and
  running commentary on the secondary audio tracks, production sketches
  and notes, rare footage, the works).
- Pressing:  the process of taking the video master and creating the actual
  "plates" from which the discs will be made, not to mention the actual
  factory pressing of the discs.  Neither Criterion nor Image does this,
  they subcontract to pressing plants like Pioneer, 3M, etc.
- Distribution:  the process of taking the finished product and putting
  it out in the stores.  Image is the leader in this respect; just about
  any laserdisc outlet you can find will have Image discs.

People like Criterion-produced discs because their production values
are much better than almost anything else out there.
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From: rga@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (bob)
Subject: "Long Box" ???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:16:03 GMT
Followup-To: r_arrigo@att.com


Hello...I've heard a couple references to a "long box"
video (U2's Rattle and Hum) in the last week. What does
long box refer to?

thanks!
r_arrigo@att.com