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Subject:      SPSS-PROBIT

I ask your attention for a relatively simple, yet persistent problem with
SPSS/PC+. I'm trying to estimate a probit model using the PROBIT-routine in
the Advanced Statistics module, release 4.01. This procedure requires the
use of aggregated data (or repeated observations), which I do not have at
my disposal. From the way in which the PROBIT-procedure has been construc-
ted (from a user's point of view) and described in the SPSS/PC+ manual, I
suspected that this procedure used an estimated generalized least squares
routine to compute it's estimates, which would mean that I could not use my
case-by-case data in the estimation of the probit-model. The SPSS-helpdesk
however assured me that the PROBIT-procedure in SPSS used 'a' maximum-li-
kelihood-algorithm, though they couldn't tell me which one right away. If
SPSS indeed uses maximum-likelihood, my problem is solved at once. But I
still have my doubts about the way SPSS computes probit-estimates, so my
question is: does anyone know if the SPSS PROBIT-routine uses EGLS or ML,
and in case of ML which particular maximum- likelihood-algorithm is being
used in computations?

Ron Linssen, Netherlands Energy Research Foundation - Energystudies
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:33:27 EST
From:         "Orville G. Marti" <OMARTI@TIFTON.BITNET>
Subject:      Statistica printer question

I inadvertently deleted a question someone asked about adapting
Statistica to two printers.  First of all, let me say that I am happy
to learn that someone besides myself has the package.  I use it for
graphics and let SAS do the statistics.  Back to the printer question...
I recently received a FAX from StatSoft (Statistica's company) in reply to
a plotting problem I was having.  My color plots were coming out all in
one color and I had requested a fix.  I am not sure whether this fix will
apply to the question that was recently asked on this list, but perhaps the
solution I was given will give a clue that will help.  Here goes....

   In the CSS directory, edit the file CGI.CFG so that the command
HPGLPLTR=COMx (where x is the com port number, e.g. COM1, COM2, etc.
In your case, for two printers you will have a COM1 and a COM2, but I don't
know enough about these adaptations to help you much more than this.

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Subject:      SUBSCRIPTION CANCELLATION

PLEASE CANCEL THE SUBSCRIPTION OF ROBERT D. KETTERLINUS
TO YOUR BULLETIN BOARD.  DR KETTERLINUS IS NO LONGER EMPLOYED
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CANCEL SUBSCIPTION TO:    KTY@NIHCU.BITNET

DR. M. LAMB
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Subject: Re: qualitative principal components
Keywords: scaling
Date: 1 Jan 93 11:26:12 GMT
Organization: Psychometric Research & Development Ltd

In <8289@news.duke.edu> feh@duke.edu (Frank Harrell) writes:

>What is the state of the art in scaling techniques for combinations
>of continuous, ordinal, polytomous, and binary variables? To me,
>qualitative principal components using the alternating least squares-type
>techniques in SAS PROC PRINQUAL look very promising, but we have had
>tremendous convergence problems using this procedure.

>Reply to feh@biostat.mc.duke.edu            Thanks

How about an open discussion on the net?   This is a nice follow-on
to the discussion on PC/CFA before Christmas.   It's also an area of
great malfeasance........

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Steve Blinkhorn (steve@prd.co.uk)
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Subject:      how to assess reliability on SAS?

Others can benefit by the answers to this question.  Please post copies
of e-mail answers here.  Thanks.  Ken Hacker


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Can somebody please tell me how to determine the reliability of an
instrument using SAS?  I've searched high and low through my SAS
manuals, and I can't seem to find any mention at all of reliability.

Please respond via email.  I'm in the process of sorting out my
dissertation data and I just don't have time to read news right now!

Thanks in advance...

- Gary

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From: feh@duke.edu (Frank Harrell)
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Subject: qualitative principal components
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Date: 31 Dec 92 16:00:58 GMT

What is the state of the art in scaling techniques for combinations
of continuous, ordinal, polytomous, and binary variables? To me,
qualitative principal components using the alternating least squares-type
techniques in SAS PROC PRINQUAL look very promising, but we have had
tremendous convergence problems using this procedure.

Reply to feh@biostat.mc.duke.edu            Thanks

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Subject:      Re: joint stat meetings
              92 3:18 pm

Thanks to Peter Wollon and Albyn Jones for the dates of the Joint Statistical
Meetings.  (August 8 through 12th)

Happy 93 to all


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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:37:25 -0500
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The following announcement is directed to undergraduates
with interest in pursuing a Master's Degree in Applied Statistics.

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        In conjunction with the Ford Motor partnership, Oakland
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opportunity to apply modern statistical methods to real world problems.
        A selected few students pursuing the Master of Science in
Applied Statistics at Oakland University will be chosen as cooperative
scholars. This program requires two calendar years to complete. Students
can start the cooperative program anytime during the summer prior to
beginning the M.S. program in September. The stipend for Graduate
Cooperative Scholars will be approximately $16,800 annually. In
addition, tuition is waived for 20 graduate credits per year.
        The scholar is required to participate in statistical consulting
and training activities at automotive manufacturing/ technical sites for
120 days per year. This internship experience is supervised jointly by
Oakland University faculty and the sponsoring company. The program is
designed for the scholar to apply his or her classroom experience to
real problems in a modern high-tech environment.

APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR OU COOPERATIVE SCHOLAR PROGRAM
(1) Obtain an application form for admission to the graduate program by
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(2) Send completed application, application fee, letters of reference
and transcipts to the Admission Office as outlined in the instructions
on the application form.
(3) Send a brief resume summarizing academic accomplishments, career
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(4) Write a brief essay (not more than 500 words) to include with item
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From: maj@waikato.ac.nz
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Subject: Calibration of NIR analysers
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:24:29 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I am assisting a colleague in the supervision of a senior student project.

A local dairy company uses Dickey-john Near Infra Red analysers to
estimate %fat, %moisture, %protein, etc in dairy products. The
analyser uses a multiple regression equation with predictors being
the logs of reflectance values at several frequencies. From time to
time the analysers are calibrated against standard chemical methods.

In between calibrations minor adjustments are made on the basis of
the results for a few items. The student's task is to review the
procedure being used for these adjustments, and for the calibrations
themselves.

We would be interested in any advice, or pointers to appropriate
literature, that someone who has worked in this area previously
might be able to give.
-- 
Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ]    University of Waikato
Department of Mathematics and Statistics     Hamilton, New Zealand      
__________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:47:39 GMT
From:         Steve Furner <smfurner@HFNET.BT.CO.UK>
Subject:      SuperANOVA

I have a colleague who is experiencing a problem with
the ABACUS product SuperANOVA.  He is using a Mac Quadra 700
with 8 MBytes of RAM.

The analysis has 5 factors, 3 factors having 3 levels
each, and one factor with two levels.  The 12 subjects are
included as a factor.  Two of the main effects are
confounded.  There are 9 missing cells in the design, and
there are 648 data points

The manual states that  unbalanced and missing cell analyses
can be carried out, but it does not give much information
about running them.

With only 12MB of virtual memory SuperANOVA runs out of
memory when 3rd order cross-terms are included in the model.
We would like to include at least all the 3rd order terms and
some of the 4th order terms.  However, when we increased the
virtual memory to 48MB and attempted a complete analysis, the
machine took all night to finish just the sums of squares
calculations.  It seemed to be paging excessively, which is of
course not surprising with so much memory!

We were wondering if any anybody has any experience
of this type of analysis with SuperANOVA.  What we
would like to know is:

        a) Is the time and memory being taken reasonable or
        is there a problem with the analysis

        b) Is there a way of determining what the machine
        resource requirements are for an analysis

        c) Is there a way of determining how long the analysis
        should take

        d) Any comments, suggestions or hints on carrying out
        this type of analysis.

 Please send replies to:

        William Thorpe

        thorpe@saltfarm.bt.co.uk
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From:         Stephen Baker <sbaker@UMASSMED.UMMED.EDU>
Subject:      joint stat meetings

Does anyone know the dates of the Joint Stats Meetings in San Francisco
this August?  I'm home and don't have Amstat news here to look it up.
Thanks
`


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Subject:      Erroneous transmission

Apologies for the inadvertent retransmission of a reply on the square root of 2.
...Mike Prager
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From: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Subject: Stat-Plan
Reply-To: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:49:07 GMT

I am looking for information on a statistics package called Stat-Plan.  
I am thinking of using it in a class I'll be teaching in the spring. The
focus of the class is on mulitple regression, but we will do a little
analysis of variance for planned experiments as well.  The class consists
of MBA students.

All I know about Stat-Plan is that it is put out by The Futures Group.
I am particularly interested in knowing if the package is easy to use,
and if it provides accurate results in multiple regression.


Marie Coffin
mcoffin@iastate.edu


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From:         PETRONIS@UI.URBAN.ORG
Subject:      Poisson regr versus Normal transform

Subscribers to STAT-L,

A researcher asked me to review a regression analysis.  The author is
studying the relationship between a count dependent variable (number of
cigarettes smoked daily) and several covariates.

The author chose multiple regression (ols) to model the count outcome. This
choice is clearly problematic as this outcome is a count, which has a poisson
distribution, and multiple regression assumes the outcome has a normal
distribution.

My initial reaction was to suggest poisson regression. Given the
researcher is unfamiliar with poisson regression, I thought perhaps a
transformation of the outcome for normality might be more easily understood.
Not having the data in hand, I cannot assess the degree of non-normality.

Given these two choices, poisson regression versus transformation for
normality, what is the better choice?  By using multiple regression instead
of poisson regression for a count outcome, what is the error in the results?
Simply that the beta's are biased?  If the outcome variable was transformed
such that it was normally distributed and the regression rerun, would this
provide as good a solution to the poisson error problem?  Would the results
be comparable to those from a poisson regression?

Any insights would be appreciated.  I am pretty much looking to fill in a
blank --
        "You employed multiple ols regression, which assumes the outcome has
a normal distribution, to model a count outcome which has a poisson
distribution.  Given this misspecification of the error term, the results you
presented are ... FILL  IN  THE  BLANK.  This problem can be surmounted by ...
FILL IN THE BLANK".

Thanks for reading this far.  Please respond to me directly.  If there is a
variety of opinion, I will summarize for the list.


PETRONIS@UI.URBAN.ORG
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              <NARAYANA@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      unsubscribe

Please unsubscribe me from the list

Narayanan, A.
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From:         BTD0@NIORDS1.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      Stanford graphics

Anyone used Stanford Graphics?  What is their phone number?

How about suggestions for GOOD STATISTICAL GRAPHICS software?

                              Brian Day
                              BTD0@NIORDS1.EM.CDC.GOV
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:53:26 -0500
From:         "Michael H. Prager" <mprager@PONTUS.DNET>
Subject:      RE: help

From:   PONTUS::MPRAGER      "Michael H. Prager" 17-DEC-1992 12:47:26.61
To:     UMIGW::"EO7646@acspr1.acs.brockport.edu"
CC:     MPRAGER
Subj:   Square root of 2

Dear Erik:

Many analytical math packages will do arithmetic to arbitrary precision. Two
I have used personally are REDUCE (on the mainframe) and DERIVE (which costs
< $200 and runs on the PC). If you tell me how many digits you would like, I
will generate them using DERIVE and send them to you by e-mail.

...Mike Prager
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P.S. The first 1,000 digits I get are:

1.4142135623730950488016887242096980785696718753769480731766797379
907324784621070388503875343276415727350138462309122970249248360558
507372126441214970999358314132226659275055927557999505011527820605
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805784631115966687130130156185689872372352885092648612494977154218
334204285686060146824720771435854874155657069677653720226485447015
858801620758474922657226002085584466521458398893944370926591800311
388246468157082630100594858704003186480342194897278290641045072636
881313739855256117322040245091227700226941127573627280495738108967
504018369868368450725799364729060762996941380475654823728997180326
802474420629269124859052181004459842150591120249441341728531478105
803603371077309182869314710171111683916581726889419758716582152128
22951848847
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From:         Melvin Klassen <KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Experimental StatLib gopher server

Mike Meyer <mikem@stat.cmu.edu> writes:
>I have set up an experiemental gopher server containing the StatLib
>archives at lib.stat.cmu.edu (port 70)*. The gopher server is not
>(yet) known to any of the main gopher servers, so you will have to
>tell your gopher client the address and port by hand.

A much-easier way: connect to the "Carnegie Mellon University AC&M Gopher"
server, which **does** appear in the Gopher menu.
Then, select the 'StatLib' entry from the menu.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:42:00 EST
From:         BTD0@NIORDS1.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      Statistica -- multiple prt drivers

Is there anyone out there who uses Statistica, who knows how to set up the
program to include two print drivers? (one for a paintjet, one for hp iid).
I have worked a while on trying to figure it out and cannot.  We are on a LAN
network also.


                              Brian Day
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