From: bohrer@mcc.com (Bill Bohrer)
Subject: Re: Clinton campaign statement
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Submitted-By: bohrer@mcc.com (Bill Bohrer)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:49:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.032917.2428@tic.com> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.123803.4228@tic.com> riddle@tic.com (Prentiss Riddle) writes:
>>Have there been any public statements from Clinton or Gore which would
>>clarify the relationship between their support for a national data
>>network with their support for censorship in the name of "family
>>values".
>>
>>I'm referring of course to Tipper Gore's leadership in the record
>>labeling movement and related issues.
>
>What's the connection between Tipper Gore's efforts and 'support for
>censorship in the name of "family values"'? Tipper Gore has explicitly
>stated on several occasions 1) that she is opposed to the censorship of
>record lyrics, and 2) that her concern that parents know what their children
>are listening should not be interpreted as a justification for censorship.

These are true facts, but it's also true that she WAS responsible for
the Senate Hearings that got Jesse Helms' shorts in a lather over this
"outrageous Filth, ... PORNROCK if you will..."  And you know, if you
invent a better nuke, even if you never meant for anybody to Kill
anybody with it, *I* think you're still responsible for what happens
as a result of your actions.

Like the idiots who started teaching college cs courses about computer
viruses way back when, as an INTELLECTUAL EXCERSIZE, they were stupid
and irresponsible and a chunk of the guilt for inventing the weapons;
not that this of course exonerates the users of these destructive
tools; like it's not ok to rob somebody, even if they're really
stupid; stoned off they're butt and trying to count a huge wad of
green and purple bills in front of you in an empty metro car in
montreal (god knows I was tempted)

>
>>Lest I be accused of candidate-
>>spouse-bashing, it is of course possible that Bill and Al don't
>>entirely share Tipper's concern with pop lyrics as an agent of the
>>decay of America's moral fiber.
>
>So far as I know, Tipper Gore has said nothing at all about "pop lyrics as
>an agent of the decay of America's moral fiber."  Are you perhaps
>confusing her with someone else? What's your source on this claim
>that Tipper Gore is talking about "America's moral fiber"?
>

>--Mike

That's a quote from Jesse Helms, I believe; Frank Zappa's "Mother's of
Prevention" album does a good slam on the senate hearings that were in
fact spurred into being by Tipper Gore's initiative after she
overheard one of her kids listening to Prince's "Darling Nikki" from
the Purple Rain Album, I believe it was the "sitting in a hotel lobby,
masturbating with a magazine" line that sent her off...  

As we all asked of Peewee Herman, "haven't you heard of VCRs?"  So too
you must question her children, "Do you know what HEADPHONES are
for???"  Can you imagine, you want to piss off your Mom by playing
albums with gross lyrics, and next thing you know she's got Frank
Zappa standing in front of some Senate Subcommittee defending "Dinah
Moh Humm"?

I was going to ask if we really wanted a vice president who sired such
dumb kids, but given the one we have now, it seemed like a stupid
thing to say.

Bill Bohrer
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