HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: prang@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Ron Wanttaja)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Re: Adding Cable Companies (was Re: Tell Viacom Cable...)
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:34:34 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Boeing Defense and Space Group, Seattle WA

In article <1992Oct5.022959.3884@u.washington.edu>, tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
> wix@eskimo.celestial.com (Dennis Wicks) writes:
> >Which sounds like a good argument to prohibit the granting of
> >franchises to _any_ company!
> 
> How do the second and subsequent cable companies get cables?  I would
> expect that there would be a lot of opposition to having the streets
> torn up N times for N companies to install cable, if N is not very close
> to 1. 

TCI just installed cable in our neighborhood, and the tearup/fuss/bother
was minimal.  The Gas and electric companies came out and painted where 
their lines ran, and TCI just stripped the sod, dug the hole, inserted the
cable, and filled it all back in again.  Where it had to cross the street,
they dug a narrow slot (1-2 inches), laid the cable, and applied asphalt.

I suspect that with modern equipment like trenchers and pneumagophers the
old disruptions have just about disappeared.  Plus in many areas, they can
rent space on the power poles just like TCI does.  (A while ago in Denver,
the cable company had a disagreement with the power company as to whether
it could use their poles.  So they ended up with a cable company truck
installing the cable in the poles, with a power-company truck a block or so
back removing it...)

                                          Ron Wanttaja
					  prang@ssc-bee
					  ...rutgers!uw-beaver!ssc-bee!prang
                                          prang@ssc-bee.boeing.com



Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: Douglas Dobbins <douglasd@halcyon.com>
Subject: Aplle Mac and Unix
Originator: douglasd@halcyon.com
Keywords: Unix Aplle
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:10:26 GMT

If anyone in the Seattle area has knowlege using a Mac with
Unix and Internet-and would like to help a new comer.
Please send me E-mail or phone me at 206-826-4035!
Thank You!
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell)
Subject: Re: COPS in Seattle
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Distribution: uassa
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 15:44:51 GMT

In <1992Oct5.072220.10720@polari> timf@polari.online.com writes:

:Please note that recent episodes of COPS have featured only Pierce
:County Sheriff Dept officers.  No King County or Seattle PD officers
:have been profiled.

:No, I have no idea why COPS is advertising these episodes as "COPS
:in Seattle".  SPD refused to sign the agreement allowing COPS to film
:their officers.  COPS crews did ride along with King County officers,
:and an episode or two featuring KCP were broadcast back in July.

Their knowledge of geography is a bit hazy.  It's amazing how
many people from the east coast think the only cities in the
northwest are Seattle and Portland (and they're not sure where
they are :-).

:-- 
:Timothy R. Flanagan		timf@polari.online.com
:				tim@reed.edu
:I'm the ACLU, the NRA, the EFF, Pro-Choice -- and I vote.
:Unfortunately, I can't find a candidate to vote for.

And I can't vote against them all until we get None of The
Above on the ballot.

Bill
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: josh@cqs.washington.edu (Josh Hayes)
Subject: question about ethics
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:12:06 GMT

Ok, gang, here's a question for you.

I'm involved in a non-profit organization; we're trying to
get donations to put on some concerts, and the proceeds from
the concerts will go to an established charity organization
which shall remain nameless. With me?

The question is, is there an appropriate way to indicate this
on the net? I know one is not supposed to solicit on the net,
and I don't intend to, but would announcing the concerts 
constitute a solicitation? I don't want to get people in a
huff about it....advice appreciated and perhaps should be
posted if you think it's of sufficient interest.

Thanks...

Josh

--
Josh Hayes, Quantitative Sciences HR-20 U of Washington
josh@mowgli.cqs.washington.edu             206 685-2793
Exclaimer: Hey!           Plan: Birth School Work Death
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: Need cat vet in Wallingford
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:14:27 GMT

In <1992Oct15.014207.9237@seanews.akita.com> billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick) writes:

>In article <1992Oct14.163822.1906@u.washington.edu> gnat@stein.u.washington.edu (L Boyd) writes:
>>I know you said Wallingford/Phinney/Fremont, but I couldn't resist
>>a plug for Northgate Plaza vet.  I was stunned the first time I
>>went there to get a bill for $27 for all my kitten's shots.

>You're right in that it seems reasonable compared to normal vet
>prices -- but if you do it yourself it's much cheaper.  For instance
>it costs me around $10/cat for everything (i.e., with feline leukemia
>and FIP) including the syringe.

>Bill
>-- 
>SEANEWS  []  Seattle News + Mail  []  Public Access  []  +1 206 937 9529
>E-mail for PGP key.   MD5 (no sigs) is: 8e253e95133365a292261c7d0da58bcb

You should at least let people know *HOW* you get the vaccines and the
syringe.  Most vets are quite unwilling to sell the stuff and let you do
it yourself.  I used to send away to mailorder veterinary supply houses
when I was breeding cats, but you had to order at least 10 vials of a vaccine
(and you had to be sure that the ice packs it got shipped with were still
closed to being frozen).  Summertime shipments were a real worry, and some
companies ship inside styrofoam boxes which helped.  But it's still *iffy*
to mess with this sort of thing yourself.
 
My own vet, whom I've used for 15 years now, *does* allow me to get supplies
from them...but only because I have demonstrated in the past that I knew wahat
I was doing.  Cat breeders are a notorious lot for *thinking* they knwo what's
going on, when they really don't.  And the vets are quite leery of them.

Crystal
  ;>

Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: kyl@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Subaru Repair??
Keywords: Recomendations
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:53:54 GMT

In article <klg.718572812@statsci> klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross) writes:
>
>A freind of mine has a Subaru GL, and is looking to get it tuned as well
>as determine the cause of a noise that gets worse as it accelerates. Since
>the dealer quoted over $750 just for the tuneup, I suspect there may be a
>better place to get this car fixed.
>
>Any recomendations? 
>

The by far the best auto repair shop in Seattle area is Kim's Auto Repair
on Lake City Way and 15th Ave.  I have never seen who could diagnose so well.
While he specializes Japanese cars, he is as well versed in other makes.  I
live in Kirkland but make a trouble going there for repairs and services.
He is that good.  By the way, price is quite reasonable if not the cheapest.
And he does not fix any unless it is absolutely necessary.

kyl@polari.online.com
From: fyl@fylz.wa.com (Phil Hughes)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: The Panama Deception still showing
Keywords: movie
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:30:39 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: FYL

The movie, "The Panama Deception" has moved to the Grand Illusion
theatre (50th and University in Seattle).  It is showing nightly at
7pm with weekend matinees at 3pm.  Here are some media blurbs:
  "An unblinking charge that the Bush administration engaged
  in a vicious, calculated campaign of atrocities and
  war crimes:
                  Seattle P-I

  "The official explanations for the military intervention ... are
  dealt with singly and devastatingly"
                  L.A. Times

  "A merciless indictment of the news media as puppets
  manipulated by the White House"
                   Variety

Anyway, I recommend it.  Call 523-3935 for theatre info.
-- 
Phil Hughes - FYL - 8315 Lk City Wy NE - Suite 207 - Seattle, WA 98115 
Phone: 206-526-2919 x74      Fax: 526-0803
E-mail: fyl@fylz.com or nwnexus!fylz!fyl
From: bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Bush's veto of family leave bill
Keywords: Family values
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:12:10 GMT
Reply-To: bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright)
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Zortech, Seattle

In article <1992Oct2.014801.7422@mdd.comm.mot.com> zintel@mdd.comm.mot.com (Mike Zintel) writes:
/In article <938@nazgul.UUCP> bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes:
/>If you have unlimited free health care, and tons of leave for various reasons
/>mandated by law, then you will no longer have a robust and productive
/>economy.
/Do I have this straight?
/A robust and productive economy is more important than health.

If you sacrifice the economy for free health care, you will have neither.
From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Subject: Re: parodies
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:54:14 GMT

Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> writes:
| I think I parody the self-righteous attitude of the Left and environmental
| extremists very well, don't I?

  Oh, I don't know about that. 

  Your impression of a right-wing troublemaker is generally quite
  good, however.
  ==

  Bob



Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: friedric@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bernd Friedrich)
Subject: Keeshond Info? (puppies)
Followup-To: seattle.general
Organization: Motorola Mobile Data Divison
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:20:54 GMT

Howdy!

My wife and I are considering getting a puppy, and after research into
breeds, temperments, and lifestyles (ours, not the dogs), we've decided on
the Keeshond breed (sort of a small furry Husky type).

Does anybody know any good breeders in the area where we might obtain a
puppy?

Thanks,
Bernd

Bernd Friedrich
Motorola Mobile Data
friedric@mdd.comm.mot.com
Quality Means The World To Us (TM)
From: fyl@fylz.wa.com (Phil Hughes)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Paying for unlisted phone number.
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:03:04 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: FYL
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Walter Bright (bright@nazgul.UUCP) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct5.230254.4013@GTEtele.com> ken@GTEtele.com (Ken Swapp) writes:
: /I just investigated changing my home phone number to an
: /unlisted number, and was told by GTE NW that it will cost 
: /me $2.20 each MONTH!!!    
: /This is absurd!
: 
: Oh, the joys of legally enforced monopolies. The best thing would be to lobby
: to remove their legal monopoly status.

I have been using an easier solution for years.  Just list your phone
under your "housemate's" name.  My "housemate" is never (and I do mean
never) here and has a funny name.  It's sort of amusing listening to
some callers attempt to pronounce it.
-- 
Phil Hughes - FYL - 8315 Lk City Wy NE - Suite 207 - Seattle, WA 98115 
Phone: 206-526-2919 x74      Fax: 526-0803
E-mail: fyl@fylz.com or nwnexus!fylz!fyl
From: figge@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (David Figge)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Jewelery Maker recommendation
Summary: Custom Jeweler
Keywords: Custom jeweler
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:57:06 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

In article <1992Oct5.211152.14538@mdd.comm.mot.com>, prager@mdd.comm.mot.com (David Prager) writes:
> I'm looking for a jeweler/jewelry maker in the Seattle area to help me
> design and build a couple of rings. Does anyone have experience with
> someone local with a sense of imagination?

I've been friends with Rick Olson of The Olson Company, and he's made several
custom pieces for me (despite the fact we're friends :-) ). He does a good job
at a fair price. He's located just north of 175th on 15th NE. His phone number
is 365-0359. Give him a call.

David Figge                      ___  /  __  /  ____/   /   |    /   ____/     
                                /    /  /   /  /       /    |   /   /          
Boeing Computer Services       ___  /  /   /  ___/    /   / |  /   /           
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From: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com (Jim Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: mortgage co. recommendations?
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:45:33 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: BoGART To You, Buddy


I've got a couple of questions for the seattle net:

    Has anyone refinanced their FHA mortgage lately and had a good
enough experience to recommend the mortgage company they used?

    Has anyone dealt with Pacific Northwest Mortgage (in Renton)?
How'd they do for you?  (oops, that's 3 questions).  Many thanks for
whatever info is forthcoming.
-- 
Jim Tomlinson    BoGART Project    Boeing Computer Services    Bellevue, WA
jdt@voodoo.boeing.com       ...uunet!bcstec!voodoo!jdt        (206)865-6578 
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: witters@tc.fluke.COM (John Witters)
Subject: Re: so, pro-windmill cadres...
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.204039.24338@u.washington.edu> dxxb@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barts) writes:
>
>Judging by his posting address, Mark works for the Computers &
>Communications department (CAC) as a programmer.  His name is all
>over most of the E-mail code (pine, IMAP, etc.) code written at
>UW.  However, that's not to say he can't be working his way through
>school as a psych major.

Maybe Mark isn't a programmer, maybe he's an AI program!  Perhaps the AI
program got exposed to some LaRoche-ite literature or an Ayn Rand novel once
upon a time.  You know: Garbage In - Garbage Out.

If Mark is a human, I sure hope he has a sense of humor!  :-)

-John

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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: dxxb@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barts)
Subject: Wait!  Don't recycle that _Seattle Times_ yet!
Summary: look on p. 35 of _Tempo_
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:48:46 GMT

The Seattle Times is now running Matt Groening's hilariously funny
"Life in Hell" comic strip on the next to last page of _Tempo_,
its weekly arts magazine.  (It looks like they started doing so
some time last month.)

Clip & save.  Start your collection today.

-- 
David Barts  N5JRN                      UW Civil Engineering, FX-10
davidb@ce.washington.edu                Seattle, WA  98195
From: bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Register to vote at Pike Place
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:14:33 GMT
Reply-To: bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright)
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Zortech, Seattle

In article <1992Oct4.192032.21807@polari> dwdyer@polari.online.com writes:
/dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman) writes:
/>In article <1992Oct2.022519.22950@polari> dwdyer@polari.online.com writes:
/>>It always reminded me of that political ad where someone pulled the
/>>lever of one candidate and the world blew up.  Anyone remember who that
/>>was??
/>Ronald Reagan.   The ad was sponsored by the Carter campaign.
/Are you sure?  I thought the ad was much older, mid-sixties, some primary
/race with an ex-military candidate.

It was Barry Goldwater. I think it was the '64 election.
From: prang@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Ron Wanttaja)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: environmental costs of windpower
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:11:11 GMT
Organization: Boeing Defense and Space Group, Seattle WA

In article <MS-C.718176375.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>, mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
> If you think that windmills are environmentally neutral, go to one of the
> California windmill farms and see for yourself.  Better yet, *think* of what a
> windmill farm entails....

Mr. Crispin crystallized something I've been wondering about.  Has anyone
looked at the long-term environmental ramifications of wind generators?

I mean, you're taking energy out of the wind... energy which is part of the
normal environment.  Aren't there some problems with the fact that that
energy *won't* be where it normally is used?

Here's a theoretical example:  Say the downwind side of the wind farm is
steeply sloped (a natural assumption for the typical installation
location) and subject to occasional heavy rain.  Say also that the soil 
can support two kinds of grasses... one which grows slowly but drives deep
roots, and another which grows quickly and has a shallow root system.

Now, without the windmill system, the prevailing winds are strong enough to
inhibit the fast-growing shallow-rooted system.  The occasional
gully-washer doesn't have much effect due to the more deeply-rooted
grasses.  But once the windmill array is installed... the wind speed behind 
the windmill farm drops.  The fast-growing grasses aren't as inhibited, and
drive out the deep-rooted system.  And the next heavy rain....

Far-fetched?  I think not.  Fifty years ago, no one would have considered a
few-degree rise in stream temperature due to a conventional power plant to
have any effect at all.

*Have* there been serious studies into Wind-energy environmental
ramifications?  Or is this issue a "blind spot" among "wind good, everything
else bad" proponents?

OK, the obligatory seattle/pnw story.  A friend of mine at Boeing was a
test engineer called in to trouble-shoot a problem at the Boeing
wind-generator site at Goldendale.  Remember, these were huge units, with
blades something like 100 feet long.

Anyway, they were getting a weird noise twice per propeller 
revolution.... rattle rattle RATTLE RATTLE RATTLERATTLE BANG!  Rattle rattle
RATTLE RATTLE RATTLERATTLE BANG!  The on-site people thought it was some sort 
of weird harmonic.

Turned out to be a left-over welding clamp loose inside the blade....

                                          Ron Wanttaja
					  prang@ssc-bee
					  ...rutgers!uw-beaver!ssc-bee!prang
                                          prang@ssc-bee.boeing.com


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: Need cat vet in Wallingford
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:15:34 GMT


I used to breed purebreds and while I am unfamiliar with the Vets in that
area these days, I would choose a vet who keeps the dogs and cats waiting
areas separate.  Often if a vet feels you are contagious to other cats, you
will be asked to use the dog side for the protection of the other visitors.
(Not a problem if you use a cat carrier, which is HIGHLY recommended!)

Also, choose a vet that allows you to be with your animal during the exam.
That way you KNOW that the shots were given, or that the blood was taken,
or whatever.  Plus it helps keep the cat more at ease if the owner is
nearby.  The 5-corners Emergency Clinic here in Burien violates BOTH these
"rules" and the bills are outrageous!!  I *really* have to have an emergency
before I will use them.

My .02c worth...

Crystal
  ;>

Xref: sparky seattle.general:3351 misc.legal:18791 misc.consumers:17914
From: sxfaia@uswnvg.com (Scott Faia)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,misc.legal,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: HELP! Landlord refuses to return rent overpayment
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:17:37 GMT
Followup-To: seattle.general
Distribution: usa
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.

I am just learning how to use the Unix E-Mail system in this fashion and
thought I would give this one a whirl!!  I by no means am an expert in 
legal matters of Real Estate Issues however had a few run in's with landlords
in the past and since my folks are both into  Real Estate as well as own
property.  pHere is my suggestion-call either the Seattle Tennants Union at
723-0500 or Seattle Housing Authority at 443-4400. I keep these #'s handy
as I have had problems in the past.  They can usually give you good advice
as to where your Landlord was in the wrong and your capabilities or rectifing
the situation.  However I dont feel that even the principal for such a small
amount will be worth going to court for!!  But if "with the info you get"
you can scare them into thinking that you will go to court over, that's
usually enough, as I have done in the past, sweet revenge!! Let me know
how it goes.   Scott                   
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: kgolden@cs.washington.edu (Keith Golden)
Subject: Re: recommendation on brake repair?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:51:31 GMT

I would avoid the Firestone on Aurora.  I just moved here a few weeks
ago, and after driving up here (and having some problems along the way)
I needed work done on my car.  I wanted to avoid a small shop, since
I didn't know any of the mechanics here, and I didn't want to go to Sears,
since they have been caught (in California) ripping off customers.  

So I take my car in to Firestone / MasterCare.
When they come up with an estimate, they include replacing the radiator
hoses.  Well, I had replaced the top hose on the road, so it is about one
week old.  The bottom hose isn't new, but it doesn't need to be replaced.
They say the hoses are soft, which generally means they are old and need
to be replaced (read that...if you take your car into this shop, expect
to get new hoses).  After axing the unnecessary work from the estimate,
I give them the go-ahead to work on the car (their prices seem a bit high,
but I'm not in the mood to go shopping all over town for a mechanic).

The work they did was satisfactory, but as I was driving the car, I 
noticed a wrench sticking out of the back side of the hood (near the
windshield).  The mechanic had closed the hood on the wrench without
noticing.  I don't remember them saying anything about a free wrench
with every tuneup, but I'll just consider it a deduction from my bill.
From: jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Julia Henry)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Need cat vet in Wallingford
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:11:01 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: BCS, Seattle

I need a recommendation for a cat veterinarian in Wallingford/Fremont/Phinney.
I know there are several clinics but would like to hear of your experiences
so I can choose the right one for me and my cat.  Thanks.  Post or email is
fine.
-- 
Julia Henry                            Never lend books, for no one ever returns
jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com      them; the only books I have in my library
                                       are books that other folk have lent me.
                                                                Anatole France
From: bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: HELP! Landlord refuses to return rent overpayment
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:43:36 GMT
Reply-To: bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Zortech, Seattle

In article <84871@bcsaic.boeing.com> milan@bcsaic.boeing.com (Milan Richter) writes:
/I need an advice on how to make my former landlord refund me part of my 
/rent.
/I would appreciate any advice on a possible legal or other recourse.
/Apart from getting my money back, I wonder if Better Business Bureau
/or any other watchdog organization may be interested in my experience.

It looks to me like you have a good case for small claims court. Good luck.
Newsgroups: seattle.test