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From: Greg.Pike@p0.f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:38:04 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@p0.f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49.0 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23461

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting David Tanner to IBM Screen Reader Fans <=-

 DT> After reading this I am even more convinced that the average
 DT> blind PC user would have more problems than they bargained for using
 DT> IBM Screen Reader, and the IBM support is obviously very lacking.

I'm going to spare quoting Tracy Carcione's message again for the sake of
brevity.  Suffice it to say that she had a problem with IBM's Screen Reader
and had trouble getting through to someone in IBM who knew what was going on.
She finally got ahold of an IBM employee she met at a conference who found a
solution to her problem.

Sigh.  David, it seems that you have some personal vendetta against IBM.
People regularly have assorted problems with all screen access packages, be it
from a flaw in the access package or just because the user is unfamiliar with
the software package.  Why do you think this particular problem was related
solely to IBM's Screen Reader?  Have you tried to duplicate the same actions
under JAWS, Flipper, TinyTalk, VocalEyes, etc?  Do you know how any of those
packages would perform under the same circumstances?

I'm certainly not going to claim that IBM's support is superior.  In an
organization as large as IBM, things are a little harder to do.  Developers
are spread out across the country and across the world.  If you've been
following the news, you know that IBM is making a lot of internal changes to
try to become more competitive.  Consequently, people are being moved around,
switching jobs, etc. and it becomes even harder to get to the right people.
Hopefully, IBM's changes will make support better than it was.  In the interim,
Tracy did get in touch with someone who could solve her problem, and the end
of her note was full of praise.

Again, if you have specific complaints about IBM's Screen Reader, let's hear
them.  Screen Reader for OS/2 hasn't been publicly released yet, so you still
have a chance to play a part in the development cycle.  Let's hear what you
don't like and I'll see what I can do to get things changed in the upcoming
release.  "...more problems than they bargained for..." is a little too vague
to take to the developers.

This should be a given, but just for the record, the views and opinions
expressed here do not necessarily represent those of IBM.  IBM is a big
organization fully capable of forming its own complex views and opinions;
I am but a mere grunt programmer with very simple views and opinions.  Just
the way I like it!

/Greg

... Harry?  You and me?  Diamonds?

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From: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: nfb bbs censorship?? You decide.
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:59:41 GMT
Reply-To: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23391

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting John R. Mattioli to All <=-

JRM> question.  The question is, "Did the sysop (or sysops) of the NFB
 JRM> board censor this article?"  I suspect that they did, and I believe
 JRM> there may be good reasons for them to do so.  Since you, David,
 JRM> sent a message to Tim that I view as somewhat less then friendly,
 JRM> I'm interested in why you feel this article should be censored.

You and others have thrown around the word sensorship.  I was the
person who removed it from NFB NET.  Was that sensorship.  I don't
think so.  I have told people, and will do so again where they can
get a copy.  I however think that we have no obligation to spread
negative stuff about the organization.  As I said in another
message, people wouldn't expect us to make xerox copies available
in our lobby, or to send out copies of the magazine to our members,
so why should we carry it on our BBS.  If Businessweek or PC Week
did an article on yourorganization dEC, one that was unfriendly,
would you expect DEC to provide you and your fellow employees with
a copy.

David Andrews

... Silver Xpress? Its tracks were washed out by a Blue Wave!

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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: braille keyboards
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:45:27 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23436

Yes the Perkins brailler can be ordered with a unimanual keyboard specify
which hand.  Also the Stainsby brailler can be used with one hand since in
its configuration I've been told that the positions of the keys
mirror the positions of the dots in the braille cell on the original model.
Another advantage of the Stainsby over the Perkins is that it can be ordered
interpoint where Perkins cannot.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: spanish
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:46:06 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23441

You can't beat the price on Hadley courses either since
they're free to the blind.  You do have to return all books and
tapes but that's only reasonable and though hadley
has two braille magazines in production specifically the
Hadley Focus and Orbit hadley doesn't distribute them
very well.
Hadley isn't where you want to go if you're looking to do courses in higher
Mathematics or very much in computer science but they can get the
job done on more basic stuff and languages provided you don't want to
learn any asian languages.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: Rick.Dayton@f74.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Dayton)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: RE: WHEN PLACARDS TRAVEL
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:12:21 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Dayton@f74.n343.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/74 - MacWASH Bbs, Seattle WA

Index Number: 23250

    As far as I understand it, most states are switching over to a universal
placard system so that a card issued in your home state will also be accepted
in other states that you may travel to.

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From: Nikos.Voulgaropoulos@f6.n410.z2.fidonet.org (Nikos Voulgaropoulos)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Expectations
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:16:40 GMT
Reply-To: Nikos.Voulgaropoulos@f6.n410.z2.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 2:410/6
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 23434

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 >      If the disable live as long as the abled-bodied, then
 > why shouldn't they have children or be allowed to adopt.  I

Well, if you are living with a disability you need rather an
attorney that a doctor or social worker. Disability is not (yet) a
law-abiding way of living so everyone can say/write anything he/she
likes since the verbal and written stupidities are tax-free and
law-abiding.

Here is an example of the Greek stupidity: From the 4.500 books and
articles which was written during the last 60 years about the
Special Education, the 91% of those is about the psychological
problems of the maladjasted persons!

 > have seen mothers with no arms diaper their child and
 > prepare meals.  I have see deaf and blind individuals raise
 > normal children and teach successfully in our schools.

I 've seen breast-less mothers who had lost the trusteeship of
their kids, right after the masto-excision!

 >      The clowns who write articles against persons with
 > disabilities experiencing parental responsibilities is
 > totally out of touch with modern thinking.  I can only
 > assume that they are acting out of ignorance or prejudice.

I think that those "writers" want to make a best seller, they know
that magazines such as the "Insitement" or the "Disability Rag" can
never sell enough, so they try to cajole their publishers and their
readers by adopting conservative attributes, reproducing the mass
ignorance and the social prejudices.

I also think that the majority of the writers with disabilities
avoid the adoption of the radical ideas and expressions because
they are copying the abled bodied carriers. From their writings the
typical reader can not understand if the writer have a personal
experience of the handicap. Ususually they use their personal
disability only if they don't have rational arguments to support
their ideas, so they reconstruct their disability image in order to
mislead the shallow-brained readers.

Nikos.

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From: Douglas.Zachary@p0.f10.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Douglas Zachary)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: ADA Violation
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:17:31 GMT
Reply-To: Douglas.Zachary@p0.f10.n137.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/10.0 - The Above Board, Sarasota FL

Index Number: 23269

As long as you have taken the written test you should be issued a
learners permit which will still establish your residency. Contact the
ACLU and if they don't help with a lawsuit then sue them too. The ADA
hotline should give you information on where to get help.  You
shouldn't have much trouble if you get a disability group to enter into
a class action suit with you. You are out to correct a wrong and not
get rich, right?  Best of luck.

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From: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: WHEN PLACARDS TRAVEL
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:26:50 GMT
Reply-To: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

Index Number: 23362

In article <23262@handicap.news>, Bruce.Couper@f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org
writes...
>Index Number: 23262
>
>VI>Hey, here is a question for anyone in the know, can I still use my
>  >parking placard when I am out of state.
>
>How about, out of country?  I used my Government of Ontario issued
>placard in Florida last year and was never challenged.

I got a ticket using a Texas State permit in Ohio once.  Upon talking to
the desk sergeant and letting him examine and photocopy my permit, they
were willing to rescind the ticket, and I didn't even need to go to
court.  It turns out that this, although reasonable, was not required.
If I remember correctly, Ohio has reciprocal agreements with Pennsylvania,
Michigan, and Indiana only.  Officially, only placards issued by those
states and Ohio are recognized in Ohio.  Most other states have similar
laws.  Florida does not issue placards and (memory again) does not
recognize placards from any states.

The police who issue the tickets tend to be far more reasonable and
accomodating than the laws require.  I have traveled a great deal, and
use both my Texas permit (which has no expiration date) and my Ohio
permit in other states.  I have not had any other incidents.  (Recent
trips include:  NY, MD, VA, WV, GA, FL, AL, TX, CA, IA, PA, CN, NV,
TN, OK, KS, and others).

Greg
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From: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Punctuation and Speech
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:01:34 GMT
Reply-To: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23396

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I got a call from a woman the other day who was looking for
advice.  She has a KPR and uses its DEC-Talk for speech with her
computer.  She has tried both Artic businessvision and JAWS.  She
doesn't like the way it reads.  She says it doesn't sound
natural.  She doesn't want to pronounce the punctuation marks,
period coma, etc., but she does want the system to pause
noticably, breaking up things into sentences.  Any ideas would be
appreciated as I am sure that some of you gurus are more expert
on specifics than I.  Are their changes that could be made in
either program to do what she wants, or would another program
offer better options?
David Andrews

... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!

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From: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Low cost ocr system
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:59:16 GMT
Reply-To: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23390

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Tandy Way to David Tanner <=-

 TW> david I am trying to get a friend in to an ocr system as cheaply as
 TW> possible but still fully functional. the arkenstone system is out of
 TW> the question. if he has a 386 what  would the cost of the discover
 TW> package and scanner cost? tandy ===

I think a HP Scanjet plus is running around $1200.  The Discover
386 software is $595 I think, although I could be off a hundred
either way.  There is also the Recognita software that Blazie
sells, for around the same price.  I have both, but don't have them
set up yet.  David Andrews

... Spaceballs: The Tagline

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From: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: cruise travel
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:11:16 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15.13 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23349

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 JC>      Two passengers on a cruise ship returning from
 JC> Jamaica were arrested in West Palm Beach for allegedly
 JC> trying to smuggle 58 pounds of marijuana in their wheelchairs.

 Yeah I heard they were sitting on the pot and there was so much sh** it
 went up their backs too. My buddy and I were talking about this. Good
 idea, just too greedy. During my drinking days, I was always able to
 get into concerts, football games, etc. with a pint or two underneath
 my seat cushion. They never look there. Even the airlines never look
 under my seat cushion. I could easily take a gun onboard.......maybe
 not now, though. Don't you just hate it when people ruin good hiding
 spots.

 Reminds me of the guy I heard of that was taking a legbag full of
 screwdrivers into games with him. Good idea as long as he didn't become
 too inebriated and forget which legbag he was drinking from. Not as
 effective the second time through I've heard (I must qualify that).

                       -Keith-

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From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: A question for you
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:56:05 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC

Index Number: 23205

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Cindy!

13 Jul 92, Cindy Barnes writes to Arthur Saus:

 CB> Where are you stationed? I can't tell from your origin line and I would
 CB> really like to know. My husband is in the Air Force and we have been
 CB> stationed at several bases which were connected to Army installations.
 CB> Where? Please?

Fort Jackson, S.C.  It's a rather large army base in Columbia,
S.C.  The primary mission of this base is basic training, but we
also have one of the larger Army Community Hospitals here.

Arthur

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From: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Artic Question
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:59:35 GMT
Reply-To: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Organization: California State University, Chico
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23359

Re: Artic BV 3.04 passthrough
(I use 3.03 but I hope they're the same!)  There are two ways: 1) Hit
the ALT key twice in quick succession, keeping it down on the second
press.  If you do it right you will hear a little beep the second time
it is pressed.  Then press your key.  2) Use CTRL-N but don't do the
double click thing.  I often get the point tracker when I'm trying to
exit a program and don't hit the ALT fast enough.  If you aren't using
the point tracker you might want to go into the user defined keys (ALT-U
from the control menu) and undefine it by moving to the "point tracker"
entry and pressing delete.
From: ronald@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Ronald A. Amundson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Help with advocacy group
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: ronald@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Ronald A. Amundson)
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa

Index Number: 23223

We in Hilo, Hawaii, are in the process of forming a "consumer- based"
advocacy group for disability rights.  We've finally realized that
government committees and most private agencies have too much inertia
and bureaucracy to engage in much activism at the local level.

I know that there are lots of other organizations of this kind
out there.  Does anyone have the bylaws, statements of purpose,
etc. for such an organization?  If so, I would appreciate it if
you could post or email them to me so we can use them as samples.

Even titles of similar groups would be helpful.  Or (best of all)
an address list of local disability rights activist groups.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Ron Amundson
Disability Rights Advocacy Group Without A Name
Hilo, Hawaii

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ronald@uhunix.bitnet            (Bitnet)
From: Rick.Dayton@f74.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Dayton)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: RE: Re: kitten...
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:11:11 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Dayton@f74.n343.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/74 - MacWASH Bbs, Seattle WA

Index Number: 23246

    Hi there...I am in the process of producing a new national newspaper on
disabilities and would be very interested in having someone submit an article
about scleroderma so that others {including myself} can learn more about this
disease.  Feel free to contact me at WASH BBS, or drop the information in the
mail to: WASH, P.O. Box 22010, Seattle, Washington, 98122-0010.
    The newspaper, called "Alliance," will be made available free by direct
mail.  Anyone interested in receiving the paper can drop me a line at the
above address and I'll be happy to add your name to our growing mailing list.

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From: Drew.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Dunn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Indolight(sp)
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:29:38 GMT
Reply-To: Drew.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/337 - Yak Attack BBS, La Mesa CA
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23178

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

-> I'll have the energy foot and flex ankle also.  I'll still be using s
-> socks and a sleeve to help hold it on.  Hope to have it by this comin

My wife (Val) has one and loves it!  After 5 or 6 legs that did
absolutely no good, she can wear this one for hours on end.  In fact,
she says that it is the closest thing to a real leg that she's felt
since the "original".

Hers, however, was about $7000....why are they so expensive out there?

dd

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From: Wayne.Briggs@p3.f26.n392.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Briggs)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Conservative treatment
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:13:38 GMT
Reply-To: Wayne.Briggs@p3.f26.n392.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:392/26.3 - Star Express, Abilene Tx

Index Number: 23427

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hi Linda:

I'e found listening to your messages (a) helpful and (b)
inspirational. Mind if I toss in an idea  ?

Water exercises, floating on back, swmmimg are pare of a typical
pain management program for individual with arthritus and for many
with back pain. I'm basing that on info as a hospital Social work
director & info from the Socciety for Behavioral Medicine, as well
as what my mom's doctor told her. Carolk Arter (James Arter) in
Abilene, Tx has info on a vest you can wear in water that keeps you
up right. For most of us, inactivity may be associated with feeling
worse, deterioration of general health & muscles strength, increase
muscle fatigue, increase musclew spasms or strain, increased
hopeless thnking & inceased depression. This letter is not coming
from an exercise nut; but a person who has struggled with
inactivity/weight since after 3 years in Viet-Nam and try the OA
program becaus I dojt hasve any other choices.

NONE f this stuff is a CURE; but TOGETHER they help things goa bit
better some of the time.It reminds me of a story my grandad told
about how he fekt about gettinging other ."Its better than the
other option!"

feel worse when my pain level ip up. It's like I'm suddenly wearing
dark glassses. Any chance yours has been up lately ?

Do you know any relevant Jewish jokes or stories ?

Good luck.  hope the national weather system changes & ifd you are
now in a "high pain index area", gives yousome relief.

P.S. I wish my communications rogram had a spell checker!

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From: William.Herrera@f18.n307.z1.fidonet.org (William Herrera)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: PAIN MEDS
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: William.Herrera@f18.n307.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:307/18 - Cuerna Verde, Pueblo Co

Index Number: 23207

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 SB> I have a REAL question: is there any way that an anti-
 SB> inflammatory can be administered through an injection?
Toradol.

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