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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:47:38 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A bunch of has-beens

On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:21:00 CDT Just say no to F*m*ly V*l**s said:
>
>   OMC -- The New Riders of the Purple Sage are going to be coming to town
>later this year.  Another band who evidently doesn't know when it's time to
>hang 'em up.  Still, I wonder who is in their lineup.
>
Marmaduke (John Dawson) and a bunch of sidemen.  Marmaduke is as spaced-out as
ever, and the sidemen are at least as musically competent as the orginal Riders
ever were back in the early '70's.  Still, at least when they played Richmond
last year, a certain cosmic dimension was missing . . .

-Scott "Panama Red" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:15:11 -0400
From:         ANSEL@FRESE51.BITNET

Ce sujet m'interesse. Pourrais-je en savoir plus ?

merci.
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Subject: Re: squeeze my lemon
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:35:34 GMT
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              28 Sep 1992 11:27:05 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:27:05 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>   Yeah, Jeff, squeezing a ball is usually a good way to get hand
>strength.  There's a number of different types of balls available
>(check out a toy store) that would be better than a tennis ball.
>There's one that's especially soft and squeezable, it feels like a, well,
>my 1 year old *really* likes it, 'though he likes to bite it (ouch!).

IMHO running a simple major scale backwards forwards with all fingers
i sometimes just use my pinky and run the scale to strengthten my pinky
I know you have to have a guitar to do this, but i still thought i'd mention
it cuz it's helped me and i don't get cramps as bad after playing barres
for a length of time. I'm sure y'all already knew the importance of running
that particualr scale i only use it as an exercise, not in my playing
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Monday morning sarcasm, round 2
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:55:24 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92100512053751@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET> writes:
> [Sinead]
>categorized as Art by 2005, with the first doctoral theses analyzing her work
>due to be defended by the graduating class of 1997 (unless some grad student
>reading this now decides to make a liar of me sooner :-)

Ah, Sinead, I predict she will be virtually forgotten in 5 years or so.
IMHO, she is pathetic.

>From:         "(Jeff Beer)" <ujwb@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: dolphy
>
>> Most of Blanchard still is a Wynton clone, but occasionally he breaks
>> out of it.  He covered Ornette's Lonely Woman, so at least they know
>> there is more to jazz than being a bebop nazi.
>
>Big deal. Everybody and his brother covers "Lonely Woman;" it's Ornette's
>"Round Midnight."

Kenny G doesn't. ;)

>When I go see a "real" jazz band, and I'm in a feisty mood, I always request
>"Play something by Monk that isn't "Round Midnight." What invariably happens
>is "Blue Monk." :-(

A "real" jazz band wouldn't ever do requests ;)

Here's to hoping for a fun filled Tuesday.

Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:21:00 CDT
From:         Just say no to F*m*ly V*l**s <CV01@SWTEXAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Ayler for Sonia

   The Ayler tunes I included for Sonia's listening pleasure (?) where "Ghosts"
and "Bells" from _Love Cry_.  I didn't include any of the Cherry, etc.
ensemble, or another Ayler I have with just Murray and Peacock, for the exact
reason that Da Beer mentions.  They are extended improvs (blowing sessions),
and probably not the easiest way to be indoctrinated into Ayler.  The tunes
from _Love Cry_ stay very close to the original themes (actually, they become
repetitious after a while).  I'm inclined to go along with a hybrid version of
the Ayler descriptions from Jeff and Michael.  It is folk music, but from New
Orleans folk.  It is really a very simple music until the dynamics of a large
improvisational exercise come into play.

      bye,
      cmv ("chuck -- sorry for the short note, but i've gotta run")
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:34:12 EDT
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      E.C.

Dave - yes I'd love to read the Eric Clapton interview. I don't know
how much disk space I have, but I'll give it a try. So please send it
to WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET.

Also, did you ever see the video of Cream's last concert in Albert Hall,
England? It (Goodbye Cream) is a great album, but I seem to remember that
my friend in N.Y.C. had a video version of this event ( I think it was
a movie at one time). A long time ago I saw some clips of Cream in an
interview with a square English music interviewer. Clapton looked wired
as hell, and explained how he takes out his frustations by wailing on his
guitar. Ginger Baker was cadaverous, but he was amazing on the drums.
And there was Jack Bruce, who told the camera that he was advised by a
Music professor long ago to give it up (music, and the bass), because he
hadn't got down the 4 part harmonies, etc that make up music composition
classes. Needless to say, he ignored his teacher, and said to the camera
this statement which I always appreciated and believed in:

Basically he said screw that teacher, but that studing Bach's bass lines
taught him all he needed to know in terms of being a rock/jazz or what-
ever bass player. It struck me at the time, because I was just being introduced
 to Bach, and I agree that Bach is the 1st, and maybe last example on how
work a bass line.

Since I'm rattling off at the keys here, I'll also post this to the net, along
with an axiom I made up many years ago. Basically it goes like this:
"If you want to be  physically (and perhaps creatively ) capable of playing
anything  the keyboard demands, you should practice and study Bach (for the
bass lines and the multiple melody lines), Mozart for the sheer musical
eloquence of the passages, and the nice running up and down the keyboard
with flashy licks, and finally Scott Joplin - to tune up your octave -
playing (especially with both hands). If a person can master these 3 giants,
I really believe that your fingers and wrists ought to be able to handle (at
least physically) any keyboard challenge that comes along. I still believe
this, but before I get flamed here, I'd just like to say I'm not slighting
any other composers of piano/keyboard music. It's just that I chose these
3 styles to try to make my hands and fingers do what I want them to do,
without complaining about the dexterity or stamina needed.

Anyway Dave (as I ramble on) I would appreciate your sending me that E.C.
interview - he's one of my favorite axe-grinders. Bye for now,
                                                            ... Walt ..
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:16:08 -0400
From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      elvis is king

Hey, jcs, I might agree that King of America is Elvis' finest.  Poisoned
Rose is a favorite, Big Light, yeah, good collection.   Then again,
all of Elvis' albums are fine.  That's too tough to call.  Depends on
your mood, I think.

Russ
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:05:08 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Barfalicious Tunes and Artists

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:46:08 EDT RIck said:
>>
>>-Scott "Hateful" Hammer
>> College of William and Mary
>
>Make that Scott "Hateful and Inattentive to Directions" Hammer.
>Bob said to send it out via personal e-mail. Now we all have access to your
>(not so) secret loathings.
>No offense, Scott, but it was bound to happen sooner or later, wasn't it? You
>were the first to break the ice, that's all.
>One of the original Hateful 8,
>Rick
>
Rick -

Phhhhhffffft!

-Scott "Hateful, Spiteful, Inattentive, and Bore S***less at Work" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:53:14 MDT
From:         Maid in Bedlam <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      like _So_ but far from so-so

Well... I managed to scoop up the latest Peter Gabriel, _Us_ and after a few
listens, I am ready to bare all, literally.  :)  In a nutshell, I adore it.

The first track, "Come Talk to Me", had me hooked instantaneously with it's
bagpipe intro and thumping percussion.  The celtic/afro/eastern attributes of
the song are wonderful and Sinead's backing vocals are perfectly suitable.

But the appeal doesn't stop there.  It continues with the wispy vocals on "Love
to be Loved" (which also features some nice tabla playing) and Peter's
trademark vocal yearning in "Blood of Eden".  Both tunes are slow and wistful
with plenty of backing drones and vibrations.  Things speed up with "Steam", a
nice funky soul track.  "Only Us" and "Washing of the Water" feature more of
that orgasmic vocal moaning that I adore and some nice bass playing by Tony
Levin.  I was swept away by "Fourteen Black Paintings" with it's etheral
Eastern flavour and the way the song builds softly and then disappears.  Peter
throws in some unadulterated fun on "Kiss the Frog" with great guitar, drums
and harmonica playing as well as deep frog-like vocal tidbits and lyrics like
"Come on baby, get wet with me".

I like the album cover with all the artworks associated with each song. In
particular, I was struck by the piece by Andy Goldsworthy (England) for the song
"Washing of the Water".  To me it looks like a moss covered vulva-like
landscape... phallicism at it's best.  :)  It's too bad that the lyrics weren't
included -- I'd like to examine them in greater detail.

Overall, this album ranks way up there on the Make Me Wet scale and is
guaranteed as inspiring sex music (based on first hand experience).  :)

- Carol
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:35:20 EDT
From:         JEPSTEIN@KENTVM.BITNET

the new command to recieve a subscription to U.S. Rocker is:
Tell listserv@kentvm afd add rocker txt
sorry about the mess, its better now
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Subject: Marillion CD anyone??
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:26:48 GMT
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Specifically to any/all Marillion fans in the U.S. ...
--------------------------------------------------

I have a SPARE copy of the UK-only compilation, "'B' Sides Themselves",
which features the following tracks :-

1.  Grendel
2.  Charting The Single
3.  Market Square Heroes
4.  Three Boats Down From The Candy
5.  Cinderella Search
6.  Lady Nina
7.  Freaks
8.  Tux On
9.  Margaret (live)

{ )1988 --  EMI CDP 7 48807 2 }

If anyone's interested in working out a swap on this one, please send
me e-mail direct.

Cheers for now,

Dougie
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From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Subject: Re: Live CDs
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:49:58 GMT

Anyone with good taste and an open mind might try bending an ear to the
following:

Neil Young "Time Fades Away"
Neil Young "Weld"
Neil Young "Live Rust"

(These are my favourite of those not already mentioned).
Happy listening.
Peter.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:32:57 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Worn out parts

Dear Jeff,
  Have you tried the old favourite, working the fingers with a
tennis ball? Do gently and gradually, individually and in combination.
The good thing is, you can carry the thing around all day and pick it
up whenever you get a few minutes. With some diligence, you should be
in fine shape in 2-4 weeks. Good luck (and watch out for overdoing it)
Michael
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:25:33 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Xenakis

On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:14:00 EST <JBRIN@WNEC> said:
>                                                Electronic Music is an
>oxymoron.
Just like "JBRIN@WNEC the rational conversationalist."
Rick
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:48:25 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Femalr Blues SIngers

I'm trying to think of some white female blues singers, so i can prove
myself wrong since i got such a reaction. The only two i can think of
is Bonnie Raitt & Janis, i knoiw i'm missing some so please post your
favorite white female blues singers...thanks L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:04:50 CDT
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: longest song title ever???

I may be jumping into the middle of this and repeating information (I was
lurking on the Allmusic Digest and just subscribed to the RealTime thing ;),
but the longest title I've ever seen or heard of is from the first album
Shakti (John McLaughlin + various Indian musicians) did (this is for real,
this is *not* a joke):

What Need Have I for This - What Need Have I for That - I Am Dancing At the
Feet of My Lord - All is Bliss - All is Bliss

What metric are we using? Word count? Character count? The 'pulsating brain'
title has 20 words, 90 characters (including punctuation, not spaces), and
the Shakti has 27 words, 91 characters.

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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:01:54 EDT
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Subject:      Number of Ticketmaster please

I just heard that Tangerine Dream are giving a concert in Boston October 8th.
As I am living in Providence I don't really know how to get a ticket for the
show. Could anyone please be so kind and post the number of the ticketmaster in
Boston or some other way how to get the ticket?
Is there probably some place in Providence where tickets could be bought?
Thanks a lot, Chris.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:00:12 -0400
From:         "(Paul Cheevers)" <cheevrsp@ACF3.NYU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Smoking rock with a pipe

	Test Department's *Good Night Out* LP
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From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Is there Anybody Listening?
              5 Oct 1992 14:51:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

Gary said:

"Metal Rules!! Death to all who appose."
Appose means to "to place in proximity of", so I suppose that
those who are near Metal music, will spontaneously burst into flames
and die.  Pretty cool way to go, man.  ;)

Kinda close to my bit of trivia on eggs and music earlier this year:
You can "hard-boil" a raw egg by bringing it to a loud concert (e.g.,
Metal) and placing it next to one of the speakers; the sound intensity
is strong enough to coagulate an egg.  Don't forget to bring salt!

 3
M
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:29:00 +0000
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              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: mixed nuts

Carol says:

>Re: Peter Gabriel
>
>He's got rather large balls and I like that in a man... What's the matter with
>brutal honesty?  Obviously they both provided him with sufficient
>inspiration... I could only hope to be his muse.  :)
>>        I personally wouldn't do it, for several obvious reasons. It's a very
>>important key to the album. Snakes and ladders allowing, of course... :)
>
>What are you telling us Marco, baby? Are you some kinda wimp or what?  I think
>Peter Hammill would do it!

        A picture is worth a thousand words:

:-) :  8----|   Peter Gabriel
:-) :  :----|   Peter Hammill (see "Over")
:-) :  -----|   Marco

        Have a nice day!

        Ciao, Marco
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Date: 6 Oct 92 16:18:44 GMT
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              6 Oct 1992 12:05:19 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

Ahhh, Sonia, the voice that cries in the wilderness bringing tidings of great
joy. . . (sorry for the Gentile references :-) )

Where ya been, woman!!  I was just WAITING for some words of wisdom agin all
that yellin' and screamin' those macho boys were doin'. . .and now you're
leaving me again until next week?

I reckon I'll hold up--I'll just load up with another round of buckshot.

Your fellow blues sister,
Michelle "A Man is A Two-Faced, A Worrisome Thing, That Leads You To Sing
The Blues In The Night" May
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:52:45 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tim Blake in concert

John sez:
>
>Yesterday afternoon I found myself at Alvin's Deli and Twi-light Bar
>on the infamous Cass Corridor in Detroit along with twenty other
>people to see Tim Blake in concert.
>

Some people just have all the luck :-( There is in fact another album
although only a cassette release (GAS tapes) which I've ordered but
not received yet called Waterfalls In Space, which is a live rehearsal
with J.P.Rykil.

Seb
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:34:16 EDT
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      New Blues Series

As per the DJ on the local Wed night blues radio show, Rhino records is
releasing, or has already released a 15 volume series of blues collections.
Some that he mentioned were titled "Delta Blues", "Chicago Blues", "Slide
Guitar Blues Greats", "Harmonica Blues", "New York City Blues", "Female
Blues Singers", and a direct ripoff of Sonia, "Roots of the Blues". It
all sounds great to me. I hope they start offering some of these as call in
prizes,(which I win occasionally), or else the beer money is gonna get
tight in order to afford this stuff.

He also played a cut from a '79 release by Muddy Waters tonight. On the
album appear not only Johhny Winter, James Cotton (from the Hard Again
album of the late 70's), but also Howling Wolf. Sounds great - I think he
said it was called "Mississippi Blues".

Hold it - I was just given access to the University's Libraries Catalogs,
and I looked up Muddy Waters and it's called " Muddy Mississippi Waters
Live". Heh guys - this is great !! There are 12 Muddy Waters listings here,
11 sound recordings, and 1 visual, and I can borrow them with my ID card.
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.......

pardon me while I do 3 back somersalts....

See ya later..............walt
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:08:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monday morning sarcasm, round 2

>Can you guys get offa this blues thing?  Or take it over to private e-mail?
>Unless there are those allmusicers that like reading a juicy fight.  However,
>most of us can see that this is pointless--Leonard, however wrong he may be,
>thinks the blues is god, Gary thinks metal is god, and the Bloomster has
>another excuse to post 200-line entries on the net.  ENOUGH ALREADY!!

Here's a second.

>New thread:
>Can someone tell me if it's worth subscribing to the Columbia CD club?  You
>know, the one where you buy 10 CD's for a penny?  I know you have to buy more
>within a certain time frame; overall, is it worth it?  The CD prices run
>between $11 and $15--I'd kind of like the convenience of ordering by mail. . .

No.  Don't do it.  Resist with all your will.  Burn any mail that even
mentions this kind of stuff.  I have two main reasons for this.
  1)  The selection SUCKS.
  2)  You will eventually forget/move/go on vacation/whatever and not get
        the little form in on time.  Then _Madona Does Elvis_ lands on your
        door and things turn ugly.
  3)  Other reasons that I'm too tired to get into now....

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Derek Tiffany          | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | URICH, cuz you gotta be
University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu    |<= djt{zero}u@aurora...
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 where every wish has come true
 and tired disguised oblivion
 is everything i do"
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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Look mummy there's an Orb up in the sky

This is forwarded from the Pink Floyd "Echoes" mail list. I figured with the
discussion on Allmusic about PF vs ORB I'd let you guys in on what's being said
over there. I personally have not heard anything by ORB yet so I can't give an
opinion as of yet.
---------Original Message--------

Aaro J Koskinen
|
|Has anyone heard U.F.Orb album by The Orb? I must say it's quite
|interesting :-) I think the first few minutes of the first track
|sounds like The Ballad Of Bill Hubbard.
|
|Anyway, the local radio station said that "there has never been
|similar music in top ten...except Pink Floyd". What do you think?

What?????  Tell the DJ to lay off the acid....The Orb is ambient
techno, based around computers, 90's synth sounds and samples, drum
machines, etc....I don't think I could *ever* (under any circumstances
of reality) confuse the Orb with the Floyd.....For one thing, the
songs that *might* sound like the Orb (Interstellar Overdrive comes to
mind) still sound distinctly low-tech compard to the Orb.....

This is like comparing Steve Miller to 808 State.....

|--
|Aaro Koskinen, akoskine@cc.helsinki.fi
|"All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be" (Pink Floyd)

^^^^^Say this to 1 stranger every day.  I do.  Watch them become
existentialists before your eyes.

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