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From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Subject: Re: Help Wanted: XView PANEL_MULTILINE_TEXT problem
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
X-Feet: bare
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:12:34 GMT

nzhang@umiacs.umd.edu (Ning Zhang) writes:
>I sent a request a few days ago but I did not get a workaround. Here
>is a simple program reproducing the problem (tested on 4.1.1 with
>Openwin 3.0 FCS and 4.1.3/w Openwin 3.0 patches).

You don't say what the problem is.  You are setting the X of the text item's
VALUE to be rather small, so that it overlaps the label.

Here is a version that is more likely to be what you wanted.

Note that you don't need a Quit button, and OPEN LOOK UI programs in
general should not have one, as the window manager provides that function.

Lee


/*
 * Test PANEL_MULTILINE_TEXT bug
 */

#include <xview/xview.h>
#include <xview/frame.h>
#include <xview/panel.h>

Frame  frame;
Panel  panel;

Frame  cmd_frame;
Panel  cmd_panel;

Panel  mlinetxt;
char   mlinetxtbuf[161];

void   test();
void   disp();
void   quit();

main (argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
    xv_init (XV_INIT_ARGC_PTR_ARGV, &argc, argv, NULL);

    frame = (Frame)xv_create(NULL, FRAME,
        FRAME_LABEL,    argv[0],
        XV_WIDTH,       200,
        XV_HEIGHT,      100,
        NULL);

    panel = (Panel)xv_create(frame, PANEL, NULL);

    (void) xv_create(panel, PANEL_BUTTON,
        PANEL_LABEL_STRING,  "Display",
        PANEL_NOTIFY_PROC,   disp,
        NULL);

    (void) xv_create(panel, PANEL_BUTTON,
        PANEL_LABEL_STRING,  "Quit",
        PANEL_NOTIFY_PROC,   quit,
        NULL);

    xv_main_loop(frame);
}

void
test()
{
   cmd_frame = xv_create(frame, FRAME_CMD,
        XV_X,		0,
        XV_Y,		0,
        XV_HEIGHT,	100,
        XV_WIDTH,	200,
        XV_LABEL,	"TEST",
        XV_SHOW,	TRUE,
        NULL);

    cmd_panel = xv_get(cmd_frame, FRAME_CMD_PANEL);

    mlinetxt = panel_create_item(cmd_panel, PANEL_MULTILINE_TEXT,
#if 0
        PANEL_LABEL_X,			10,
        PANEL_LABEL_Y,			10,
        PANEL_VALUE_X,			10,
        PANEL_VALUE_X,			30,
#endif
        PANEL_LABEL_STRING,		"DETAIL DESCRPTION",
        PANEL_VALUE,			mlinetxtbuf,
        PANEL_VALUE_DISPLAY_LENGTH,	80,
        PANEL_VALUE_STORED_LENGTH,	320,
        NULL);

    window_fit(cmd_panel);
    window_fit(cmd_frame);
}

void
disp()
{
    static int	count = 0;

    printf("disp() count = %d\n", count);

    if (count == 0)
    {
        test();
    }

    count++;

    (void) sprintf(mlinetxtbuf, "Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah %d\n", count);

    xv_set(mlinetxt, PANEL_VALUE, mlinetxtbuf, NULL);
}

void
quit()
{
    exit(0);
}


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From: gram@aim1.aztec.co.za (Graham Wheeler)
Subject: Building X11R5 under Dell SVR4
Organization: Aztec Information Management
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:36:00 GMT

Hi all

Apologies if this is a FAQ; I haven't been following this group for a while
as I couldn't get X11R4 to work with my ATI VGA card.

I am now trying to build X11R5 under Dell SVR4. The only change I made to the
site.def file was to uncomment the HasGcc #define. I then tried to build with:

make CC=gcc -DBOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="-DDELL -Di386SVR4Architecture" World

This resulted in a `cd config', and then imake was built. Control returned
to the `mit' directory, and imake was executed to build a new Makefile. Then
the command `make Makefiles' was executed, and this terminates immediately
with an error along the lines of:

make: line 267: separator required (bu31)

(Sorry, this is all from memory 2 days ago, and may not be literally precise).
Line 267 of the Makefile is blank. The entry preceding this line was 
something along the lines of:

	all::
		if ...\
		do\
			...\
		done

with the `done' being on line 266.

This all takes about 15 seconds, so I'm not getting very far (unlike my SVR4
build on a Sun a couple of years back which went through without a hitch
first time) :-(.

Anyone have any ideas about (a) this make problem and (b) my BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS
settings? Are the latter appropriate for the target architecture?

I would prefer e-mail responses, and can summarise if appropriate.

Thanks in advance
Graham

-- 
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Network Systems Programmer         | that which is soft conquers the hard."
Aztec Information Management       | 		Lao Tzu - Tao Te Ching Ch. 78
gram@aim1.aztec.co.za              | There's no justice, there's just us
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: cyclone@netcom.com (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Where does SIGUSR1 come from?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 16:21:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I recently compiled xfishtank from export...one of the command line options is
'-s' for secure mode toggle.  When started in this mode the fishtank covers
all windows rather than being a background.  According to the source code the
window will go to the background upon receiving SIGUSR1.  What event will
cause SIGUSR1?  I assume it is some sort of mouse or keyboard action, but
there is no other reference to it in the source code except as part of the
signal handler.

Thanks,

Bill Sheppard
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: scaling fonts
From: cjw@dme.nt.gov.au (Chris Wharton)
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:54:00 +0900
Reply-To: cjw@dme.nt.gov.au
Distribution: world
Organization: Northern Territory Department of Mines & Energy

Could some-one give me an idea how I can scale a font
in XLib ? I can do it using Xview, however it only allows
for four sizes, and I need about 40. 
Would I have to load 40 different instances of the font
at the begining, or can I just resize the existing one
on the fly ? 

Any help or comments appreciated (preferably email).

- Chris.



Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: can an R5 client connect to R4 server?
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:04:15 GMT
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

In article <1992Sep7.201706.3675@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca> brian@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca (Brian J. Murrell") writes:


>I just compiled X11R5 on one
>of the machines in my office.  

OK, let's say you compiled the X11R5 CLIENTS on your host system.
(You may have complied the server too, but that's irrelevant to the
problem at hand.)

>I have two other machines running
>R4 (a SVR4 workstation, and a PC running an R4 server under MS
>Windows).  

OK, let's say your SVR4 box and your PC are running X11R4 SERVERS.
It's possible they are running clients locally, too -- again,
irrelevant.

>I can't seem to start any applications on my R5 system
>with the -display set to either workstation.  

OK, let's say you cannot launch any X11R5 client from your host
system to connect to the SVR4 box or the PC.

If my clarifications don't describe your situation correctly,
then maybe you should repost with a more accurate description of
your trouble.

>I get an error message such as below if I try to start any client
>with the parameter -display ilinx:0.0
>Error: Can't open display: ilinx:0.0

This could be anything.  I get this when I unplug my ethernet,
or mistype the hostname of the X server.  Are there any other messages
with it.

Now, the questions.  

Can you launch ANY X clients (R4, R3, ...) from your host system to
connect to the PC or SV box? Try a simple one like xdpyinfo.  If you
can launch an OLD client, but not an R5 client, then you have a fairly
good idea that something's wrong with R5.  But, I doubt it.

Can you ping the PC or SV (are the TCP stacks working throughout)?

If your host system is a Sun, try using the trace command to see what system
calls it's making.





>I get an error message such as below if I try to start any client
>with the parameter -display ilinx:0.0 > >Error: Can't open display:
ilinx:0.0 > >So what's the story here??  > >brian >-- >Brian J.
Murrell brian@ilinx.wimsey.bc.ca >InterLinx Support Services, Inc.
uunet!van-bc!ilinx!brian >North Vancouver, B.C.  > Platform and Brand
Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: binding keys to character strings
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 09:03:23 GMT

> Distribution: cu

I'm not sure what this is supposed to be...something Colorado-specific,
probably.  It's not clear who passed it outside of its area, but
someone sure did...

In article <1992Aug31.210821.11602@colorado.edu>, schwartz@latour.cs.colorado.edu (Michael Schwartz) writes:

> Can someone tell me how to bind a key to a character string - e.g.,
> so when I press "R11" it outputs "ls -lR", independent of which X
> client is running?

No, because it's not possible.

To begin with, not all clients are interested in converting all
keystrokes to strings of characters.  Even of those that *do* want to
convert everything to strings of characters, not all have any support
for this.  Those that do do not necessarily do it the same way, though
the commonest way is probably via the Xt translations mechanism.
However, even with that, there is the serious problem that all
translations get lumped into the same resource, meaning that for every
distinct Translations resource you already have, you have to add this
one to it individually; there's no way to set *one* thing and have this
happen everywhere.  (Actually, I think there are two translations
resources.  This doesn't cure the problem; it's just a pallative for
the case where you need only two levels of specificity.)

With R5, there is enough support in Xlib that it's possible to do
translations right, having a separate resource for each translation
(what in the Xt approach would be a single line of the translations
resource).  As far as I know nobody has actually implemented any such.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Subject: Re: Making big fonts, how to start?
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 11:32:16 GMT

In article <123@trident.datasys.swri.edu> noren@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Greg Noren) writes:
>I want to
>make a few "large" fonts - something on the order of 128 pixels tall by 64
>pixels wide at 100 dpi

>I've got access to R5, but my project team wants to stay with
>R4 for now as that's what our customer is running.  So, no R5 servers.

>     o  Do I create a BDF file from scratch using bitmap(1) to make all
>        of the glyphs (the _hard way_ listed in the FAQ)?

It'll take until doomsday to digitize all the printable characters in
a 128-point size!  After you finish, you probably won't be satisfied
with the quality.

I suggest you get the R5 font server running, locate a Bitstream
Speedo or PostScript Type 1 outline for the font you want, and use
R5's "fstobdf" utility to make yourself a bdf file.  Then, your
involvment with R5 can end and R4 users can use the BDF file.  This
will take five minutes instead of five thousand.

Alternatively, if your budget runs to it, one of the font houses
(Bitstream, for example) will make bitmap fonts to order for you for
something on the order of $500 each, to bundle with your product.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jmoore@ssd.kodak.com (James H. Moore 726-0322)
Subject: How do you record server/client dialog?
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Keywords: record playback fake-out server
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:30:44 GMT

I heard of a reference to a public domain tool which basically listens to
the X server / client dialog, and records it.  Later, you can play
the dialog back to the server and have it display (real-time) what was
done previously.  Playback will not need the original application(s) or
hardware configuration.  This is intended to record demonstations to
be played back later in a minimal X configuration.


Thanks in advance!!

					Jim



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- -  May God bless you, in Jesus' name for blessing me with your help - -
From: mill6852@mstr.hgc.EDU (glenn miller)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Motif
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:08:28 GMT
Organization: The Internet


I would like to use Motif on a Sun sparc, could someone
tell me 'how to get Motif'. How much does it cost?
The other problem is that some of our users would like to
use Suns openlook, so can Motif & OpenLook peacefully 
co-exist. We would need Motif for X11R4.

Thanks for any suggestions
Todd Miller
From: boag@world.std.com (Scott A Boag)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Info on TAE+ wanted
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:53:11 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Does anyone know anything about TAE+, which is sold by an 
organization called COSMIC?  I received the following blurb from 
someone at COSMIC, but I am still not sure what it is.  My client 
sounded like it was a User Interface Language (UIL), but the blurb 
makes it sound like a GUI builder.  Maybe it's both.  Any information 
would be appreciated.

------ from message titled "COSMIC Info, September 1992" ------
TAE Plus (Transportable Applications Environment)  provides a
generic, user interface development and management system that
allows anyone, programmers and non-programmers alike, to create a
sophisticated graphical user interface for virtually any type of
application.  TAE Plus utilizes MIT's X Window System, Version
11, Release 4, and the Open Software Foundation's Motif Toolkit. 
TAE Plus is portable across a wide range of computing platforms
using either the UNIX or VAX/VMS operating systems, and is
capable of generating code in C, FORTRAN, and Ada, as well as in
the high-level TAE Command Language (TCL).  A new Silicon
Graphics version is now available.  Site license, $750.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------




-- 
**********************************************************
*  Scott Boag
*  DMR Group, Inc.
**********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Looking for Large size fonts.
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:16:29 GMT

Hi All,

A customer of mine is looking for large size fonts to run on X11R4 under SCO
Open Desktop.   I have access to the internet and they don't so I was 
hoping to find a place to down load them for him.  If anyone can e-mail me
info on where to anonymously ftp them I would truely appreciate it.

paul@openage.com
or
gryphon@openage.com

Thanks in Advance.

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
From: bryan@wupost.wustl.edu (bryan o'connor)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Help!  X Server for DecStation 3100 with VR150 monitor?
Date: 7 Sep 1992 14:08:53 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wupost.wustl.edu

Help!

I'm running the Xdec server on my DecStation 3100 -- and I'm fairly sure
that it is not fully utilizing my monitor.  There are 1 inch gaps on
either side, etc.  Plus, I was told that I could do GrayScale, yet I
can't seem to get it to work.  (I'm not sure what type of graphics
card it has in it.)

Is there another server, switches, patches, etc. that would help me?

Any help is appreciated.

-- 
Bryan D. O'Connnor                   | "what scares you most
Computer Science Undergraduate       |  will set you free"
Office of the Network Coordinator    |  is what the Angel said to me...
Washington University in Saint Louis |              --Soft Boys
-- 
Bryan D. O'Connnor                   | "what scares you most
Computer Science Undergraduate       |  will set you free"
Office of the Network Coordinator    |  is what the Angel said to me...
Washington University in Saint Louis |              --Soft Boys
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: aardvark@nt1l.krl.com (Donald Koch)
Subject: Re: How do I get 'asciiStringWidgetClass' in R5?
Organization: Koch Research Labs
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:43:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.155504.11469@abekrd.co.uk>, garyb@abekrd.co.uk (Gary Bartlett) writes:
> What's the story with the asciiStringWidgetClass in X11R5?  I was trying
> to  compile  up  an  old  program (which compiled without problem on R4)
> which used the following call:
> 
> 	#define ASCII_STRING
> 	#include <X11/Xaw/AsciiText.h>
> 
> 	:
> 	:
> 
> 	send1 = XtCreateManagedWidget("send1", asciiStringWidgetClass,
> 					box1, args, FIVE);
> 
> On linking, the asciiStringWidgetClass could not be found:
> 
> 	ld: Undefined symbol 
> 	   _asciiStringWidgetClass
> 

The Athena Widgets library (libXaw) needs to be built with ASCII_STRING defined.
Since it apparently wasn't in your case, the asciiStringWidgetClass structure
wasn't defined.  I believe the ascii string widget is obsolete and you should
replace it with the text widget, but the aforementioned rebuild should get you
by in the meantime.

-- 
Don Koch
aardvark@nt1l.krl.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: markmc@sierra.com (Mark McWiggins)
Subject: How to change bitmap colors on buttons?
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:10:31 GMT

I'm working on an application that uses buttons with bitmaps on them, but
I can't get the bitmaps to come up anything but black and white. Here's
the relevant section of the resource file:

	*paletteShell*board*fillPattern*fp1*labelType:		PIXMAP
	*paletteShell*board*fillPattern*fp2*labelPixmap:	fp2.xbm
	*paletteShell*board*fillPattern*fp2*background:		Green
	*paletteShell*board*fillPattern*fp2*foreground:		Blue

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.
--
Mark McWiggins           +1 206 822 5200x377 days      Box 31356
markmc@sierra.com        +1 206 632 1905 24 hrs.       Seattle WA 98103-1356

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.COM (Sinan Karasu)
Subject: Re: Needed ... X Based PCL Previewer
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:12:37 GMT


> 
> The subject says it all.  I need an X based previewer
> for HP's PCL printer language.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
> -- 
> Dana M. Riley                     Internet: riley@ae.ge.com


 I looked and asked and looked and asked. And I could not find such
a thing ! ... Hope you have better luck. Seems like everybody
wants to use PostScript instead.(can't say I disagree)...

 By the way you may try publish@chron.com (publish-request@chron.com 
to subscribe). Maybe there is a comp.lang.pcl ? 
(I know there is comp.lang.postscript)

Sinan
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:37:49 GMT

In article <18k21lINNkj8@early-bird.think.com>, barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
> In article <1992Sep8.211314.23372@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
>> I am not arguing with their findings.  I am saying merely that it
>> *is* slower _for_me_.  Or are you trying to say that my time-sense
>> is so out of whack that I merely *think* I'm typing 10 to 20 cps?
>> Or perhaps that I merely *think* that I can't make a mouse selection
>> in .05 to .1 second?
> Hold on, folks.  Are you comparing things at the same level?  Sure,
> you can type at 100 wpm =~ 10 cps.  But a command line is typically
> around 10-20 characters, so it takes 1-2 seconds to enter a command.
> In a GUI, a command is often just a click followed by a menu or
> palette seletion, which Apple claims took their subjects 1-2 seconds.

Except that the CLI command can do more.  How many 10-20 keystroke
command lines are there?  (Okay, how many *useful* ones?)  Now, how
many menu selections are available?

What's more, you're the one who's making invalid comparisons.  I, at
least, am not (not necessarily) arguing a comparison between a UNIX (or
VMS, or similar) command-line and menu selections.  I'm arguing a
comparison between menu selections and short bucky-bit command
sequences (clover-key sequences on the Mac, control-key on UNIX, for
example).

> Your comparison might be reasonable if people were entering running
> text using the mouse, but even the most devoted GUI afficionados
> agree that a keyboard is necessary for a word processor.

But the rabid GUI types don't use the keyboard for anything *except*
text in the WP.  I'm talking about (say) selecting "Save" from a menu,
versus (say) typing control-X control-Q.

> 100 wpm is a reasonably proficient typist, but the learning curve
> necessary to be able to select menu item in two seconds may be pretty
> short.

This is an excuse for crippling those of us who *have* learned to type?

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:16287 comp.human-factors:2117
From: vsv@st.simbirsk.su (Sergey V. Vovk)
Subject: Trident TVGA 8900C driver needed
Organization: SystemoTechnika Center, Dimitrovgrad
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:12:39 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Hi, netters!
Is there anybody, who can help me?

I need source code driver for
	TRIDENT TVGA 8900C
under X11R5.

I think it is possible to support this card under X11R5, is it not that?
Yes, I know that it will be standart feature in future release
of X386-1.2E accompany with new name of this project.

Now I need two source files ONLY:       driver.c        bank.s
Another one seems to modify so easy.

Please, E-mail me or driver's sources, or any advise where to find them.

THX, with hope
-- 
Sergey Vovk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x.intrinsics
From: fineman@markov.arc.nasa.gov (Charles Fineman)
Subject: Re: Colormap stuff
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:08:17 GMT


I thought XInstallColormap was only supposed to be called by window managers.

	~C
 
--
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jordann@smtpx.UUCP (Jordan Nackos)
Subject: Automated testing for X-Windows
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:27:49 GMT

I am looking for an automated test package for X-Windows applications
testing.  I have looked at PreVue, Mercury, and Performix, but was hoping
there were a few more companies out there that had testing packages for
X-Windows.  If anyone has any information for me I would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks!

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: dankoski@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Dankoski)
Subject: Xview Pinnable Windows.
Keywords: Xview, SUN
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 03:59:54 GMT


  Hello, I am looking for anyone with experience with
pinnable menus in XView.  I am trying to modify the
menu_dir2.c file in the back of the XView Programming
Manual (3rd Edition).  Here's the problem:


  When I add about 60 items to a pullright menu it will format
the pop-up menu fairly nicely (in 3 columns).  But when I pin 
the same menu it comes out in only a single column (which happen to 
run off the edge of my screen).   I have tried setting the 
attribute MENU_NCOLS to 3 (say).  And when I pin the menu I 
still get only 1 column of data.

   Is this the default behavior?  I realize I could try to 
add a MENU_PIN_PROC to replace the menu_default_pin_proc().  
However, I would prefer not to replace the default behavior if there
is a cleaner solution.  Perhaps the solution has something
to do with the fact that once you pin a window it is
no longer a menu?

Thanks for your help,

Paul Dankoski



Other points:
   I am attaching the menus to a panel instead of a canvas.  
(I don't think that this should be a problem).
   I have tried setting the attribute MENU_NCOLS to 3 both
before and after I have added the menu_items to the menu
with no impact on the problem.

-- 
Paul Dankoski
email: dankoski@isl.stanford.edu
W1: (415) 723-3024
W2: (415) 725-6948
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x