From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Why Vote for Bush?
Date: 11 Apr 1992 15:42:43 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
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grendel@cis.ksu.edu (Stephen Spencer ) writes:

OH NO!  GRENDEL HAS FOUND A NATIONAL NEWSGROUP!

>verily...

With this message, I hope to keep some of you out there in the land we
call Distribution: usa, away from some of the campus drivel this person
(Steve Spencer) is used to.  If you know what's good for you, don't
encourage him.  He'll just say "verily" and think everything's better.

[blah blah blah] 

[Why would someone vote AGAINST Perot?]

>>This depends on what you think are bad.  1) He's pro choice.  2) He favors
>>gun control.  3) He wants to continue fighting the War on Some Drugs
>>(my biggest beef with him).  4)  He seems to put the family unit on such
>>a high pedestal that he would make hire/fire decisions based on the
>>employees's (sp) marital status, or who they live with.  E.G. I understand
>>that he would not allow 2 of his employees to live together unless they
>>were married.  Really evil shit, you know?

>1) Of course EVERY reasoning and semi-logical person in the *WORLD* thinks
>   this one is the most important issue.  

Thankfully I don't.  I think this has to be one of the dumbest
arguments I have ever heard in my life.  On one side you have morally
constipated snobs, and on the other side you have what you would call
"misguided leftists".  I just wish the whole issue would go away.  I
like what Perot has to say on this issue:  "I think this is the woman's
decision.  God knows what kind of demonstrations I'll have outside my
office now."

>2) the Missiouri senate doesn't [support gun control]

Yeah so?  I see you just subscribed to this newsgroup so you could
reply to one of my posts.  You obviously haven't been following the
discussion and you obviously don't have anything positive to lend to
the conversation.  Why don't you just go away, gendel?  Go do someone's
homework for them or spend a few hours asshole-proofing your X
display.

On the issue of gun control, H. Ross Perot says: "When I was a boy,
everybody had guns, but we didn't shoot one another."  In short, he
recognises that there is a problem with "guns" being used to kill human
beings in this country.  He wants SOMETHING done about it, but won't
make a decision based on his own biased worldview.  He suggests that
the best plan would be to have multiple plans.  Pilot projects.  The
ones that work stay, and the ones that don't work go away.

>3) Strat, when you get out into that real world and see what drugs do to 
>   people, you might stop thinking of your little "legalize pot" attitude as 
>   something k00l k-rad and streep.

Again, you have demonstrated your total lack of knowledge and awareness
on this issue.  The issue here is not about ignoring the dangers of
drug abuse, but the METHOD our government uses to reduce drug abuse.
Right now we have what I can a "War on Some Drugs".  Grendel, go into
my docs directory and read Drugs.txt.  This will explain why I am
opposed to this war.  To stop the violence... to stop the killing, we
have to stop the profit incentive.  Otherwise, if things keep going the
way they are, 50% of the population will be in prison by 2050.  The
WoSD is costly, racist, violent, and isn't doing what our government
said it would.  Do you wish to perpetuate it?  Change it?  Eliminate
it?

>4) When did this country start going down the shitter?  When did the divorce
>   rate start rising?  Control of whether a person is married of divorced
>   isn't an issue as it will never happen on a governmental scale anyway.

That's my point.  Thanks for agreeing with me on an issue.  People are
afraid to vote for H. Ross Perot because they're afraid his policies
about employees living together will somehow apply to the country as a
whole.  The truth is that they can't.  The country is not an
information service company... and it certainly isn't EDS.

>5) Perhaps if all the activists in this nation pooled their money they could
>   fund some rehab programs or build housing (not shelters) for the homeless
>   or maybe even feed a couple of them... crazy idea huh?  Maybe stop waiting
>   for the government to hand it to you on a plate... just another crazy 
>   idea...
>

We've tried it, Mr. Spencer.  But it's illegal to rehabilitate drug
users.  Did you know that?  Our government has torn down homeless
shelters.  Squatting is illegal in this country.  It's hard to get
something done with the Federal government telling you that you can't
do it.

>'Cmon strat... everyone knows that any leftist that makes over $15,000 a 
>year is only in it for the publicity... (shhhh... don't tell anyone that
>Parrot is a capitalist until after the elections!)
>>

Steve, you ignorant jerk.  If the closest thing you have to political
aspirations is what you read and write in ksu.talk.drivel, then you are
in no condition to debate politics in this newsgroup.  You don't know
what the issues are.  You don't know where I, or any of the candidates
STAND on the issues.  You have a bizarre and distorted view of
political alignment, and you are genuinely unimpressive at trying to
sound intellectual.  E.G.:

>yeah and verily...

Why don't you do the whole world a favor and get out of this
newsgroup.  USENET is not here to be your personal toy.  You can not
waltz in here, looking for trouble, and spew this kind of ignorant
bilge and expect anyone to take you seriously.
 
Stratocaster

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