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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 92 16:49:00 EDT
From:         LeeAnn Via <VIAL2760@SNYONEVA>
Subject:      Re: St. Augustine.....
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   Another good restaurant in St. Augustine is Barnacle Bill's.  It is an
excellent (in my opinion) seafood restaurant.  Usually however, there is a wait
to get in (they don't take reservations), but the wait isn't that long, and
definitely worth the wait. Barnacle Bill's is very easy to find, it is right in
town, near the Ripley's Believe It or Not Museum.
   Another good restaurant for seafood is Osteins.  I was there a few years ago
and the food was excellent.
   A good place to go just for a snack after a long day at the beach is a
frozen yogurt shop called LenDee's.  Their service is very prompt, with a
downhome friendly type of atmosphere.  (A definite must go!)
   Off the subject of restaurants, a very entertaining place to go is the
Alligator Farm (even if you don't have kids!).  They put on an excellent show.
Plan to spend at least half the day there so you don't miss anything.
   If you plan to do any shopping while you are there, the old part of town has
a multitude of shops with many good buys.  One shop that I particularly
recommend is Faraway Places.  It has many good buys, and, if you are into
anything brass, definitely go here!  If you don't want to go to the old part of
town, you can always go to Ponce de Leon mall (it isn't hard to find, just
follow the signs!).  It's a typical mall, but it is nice all the same.  If you
happen to go there, definitely plan to go to Morrisons for lunch.  It is a
cafeteria, but with excellent food and prices.
   That's all that I can think of at the moment.  If you need to find out
anything more about St. Augustine, let me know, my family and I have been going
there for the past 12 years.  It is definitely a very relaxing place, in my
opinion the perfect vacation spot.


                      Hope this helped!,
                      LeeAnn Via
                      vial2760@snyoneva.bitnet

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:15:49 CDT
From:         Lisa Simmons <simmons@ISSI.COM>
Subject: Re: 1-800-CALLWVA
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They send a color softcover book
and a great map - took 7-14 days
to arrive.  You can also get free
detailed area maps and talk to the
state park system through this number.
We went in September, stayed mostly
at state parks (really nice), visited
old mines, went white water rafting.
It was a great vacation.

lisa
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 92 16:05:00 MST
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR
Subject:      Technology
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The Wall Street Journal of Monday, April 6, 1992, has a special section on
technology.  Though not related to traveling, some of the articles were
quite interesting.
                                        Lloyd Dennington
                                        University of Denver
                                        LDENNING@DUCAIR
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:11:41 GMT
From:         James A Schaefer <JAS@RICVM>
Subject:      Re: 1-800-CALLWVA.
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On Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:32:31 EDT Doug Cutler said:
>
>     There have been many commercials on our TV channels here in North
>Carolina for West Virginia.  They gave 1-800-CALLWVA as a number to call
>for free info.  Well I called that number about a month ago, somebody
>took my name and address but as yet I havn't received anything, anybody
>else tried it?
>
Yes, and it took quite awhile, 5- 6 weeks, soon you may be getting your
general guide to vacationing in WVa.  Within the last month or two was
an excellent article on eastern West Virginia in the Nat. Geo. Travellers
Magazine.  From a displaced hillbilly, enjoy your trip.
>
>  Doug. Cutler                       Office of Information Technology,
>  VM Systems Programmer              University of North Carolina.
>
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 92 18:01:34 CET
From:         Juan Ruiz <UBAFAM03@EBCESCA1>
Subject:      Barcelona
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Hello friends of Tourism-Discussions,

I would suggest an interesting trip from Barcelona in the next summer
1992 , there are beatiful cities next from Barcelona with beaches
Gerona, Tarragona .... in Catalonia.

If you are anything let me know.
Juan
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:03:15 EDT
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From:         Doreen Rappaport <IRMSS931@SIVM>
Subject:      Denver, CO
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From:  Doreen Rappaport
Subject: Denver, Colorado
I will be going to Denver soon for 3-4 days.  Does anyone have any suggestions
on what to see/what not to see, places to go, places to be, restaurants, etc.
I love pretty much doing everything so am wide open for ideas.
Thanks.

Doreen Rappaport
Smithsonian Institution               Telephone: (202)786-2142
OIRM - Information Resource Division  Bitnet:  IRMSS931@SIVM
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:40:00 EDT
From:         CQS5@PSUADMIN
Subject:      Montpelier, France
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Two friends are going to a conference in Montpelier for a week (the third week
of June) and would like information about what to see and do in the area.
One of the two will be somewhat busy with the conference, but the second is on
vacation.  It is their first visit to France and neither have a backround in
the language.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Cas
cqs5@psuadmin
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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 92 02:41:00 MST
From:         EXTUNIV@ARIZVMS
Subject:      Route to India for handicapped (Q)
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Hello

I recently met a gentleman who is interested in traveling from
Tucson,Arizona to Bangalore,India.

He has a medical condition which does not allow for more than a 4
tops 5 hour plane ride.

He likes trains andis in no hurry.

The trip would take place this year probably 4th qtr.

Please post directly to me and I will post your
ponses in a summary type post.

Thanks in advance.

Harry G Osoff
Image Processing Lab
University of Arizona
extuniv@ccit.arizona.edu
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:40:42 EDT
From:         V2153A@TEMPLEVM
Subject:      Cambridge and Boston area
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Going to this area - May 3-5.  What good restaurants are available?  I like Ita
lian; Colonial Motifs, Traditional (classy); French.  Looking forward to hearin
g from you all.
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 92 01:09:36 EDT
From:         ST101019@BROWNVM
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I need some information on the sea route between Dublin and France.

How long does it take? What kind of marine craft are used?
Where in France will I get off?
And, most importantly, (since I get seasick just looking at a ferry)
is the crossing rough? I will probably do it in June/July. Will I
barf all the way?


Su-Lyn
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 92 13:28:50 MET
From:         Bobes <GLIVIAK@CSPUNI12>
Subject:      Delivery a car
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Hi travellers,
I am a university student from Czecho-Slovakia. I will visit USA in
summer and I have a problem . How to get from coast to coast very cheap.
My friend told me that the best is to deliver a car. But,I have got
no informations about it , and I would need them.
Couldn't you help me ?

I heard about two-weeks free flights ticket (but not free of pay) valid
in USA . Can you write me about it , if you know something ?

                Bye
                  Bobes
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:00:30 GMT
From:         James A Schaefer <JAS@RICVM>
Subject:      Courier Info
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The following is from notes that have appeared in the past on this list.
I personally have no experience with these services but pass on the
experiences of others for you to evaluate:

Courier Flights

     Date     Thu, 24 Oct 91 08:44:08 EDT
     From     Jeannine.Lorenger@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU

     Two books on the topic are:  The Insiders Guide to Air Courier
     Bargains Kelly Monaghan, 1991; publ. by Inwood Training Publications
     P.O. Box 438
     New York, NY 10034) and

    Air Courier Handbook (Jennifer Basye, 1991; publ.
    Big City Books, P.O. Box 19667, Dept. G, Sacramento, CA  95819).

    Watch the articles & ads in the mother of all budget travel
    magazines, Transitions Abroad (413-256-0373).  Have fun!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Date: Tue, 28 May 91 19:01:19 GMT
     Travel Unlimited
     P.O. Box 1058
     Allston, Massachusetts 02134

     Monthly newsletter describing opportunities to fly as a courier
     (cheap but carry-on luggage only). An annual subscription costs
     $25 ($30 foreign).  They accept check or money order.
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     Date:         Fri, 25 Oct 91 09:34:28 EDT
     From:         Eric Rose <rose@AECOM.YU.EDU>

     Now Voyager in New York City, (212) 431-1616.  Tape-recording on
     phone explains how they work and lists available flights
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From:         "Marcus L. Endicott" <mendicott@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      RUSSIA'S FIRST YOUTH HOSTEL!
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/* Written  1:22 am  Apr 10, 1992 by glas:ryhtcaron in cdp:reg.ussr */
/* ---------- "RUSSIA'S FIRST YOUTH HOSTEL!" ---------- */

*****************************
SEE RUSSIA ON A SHOESTRING!
*****************************

TRAVELLING EUROPE THIS SUMMER? DON'T LET RUSSIA PASS YOU BY!

ANNOUNCING THE GRAND OPENING OF RUSSIA'S FIRST "WESTERN STYLE"
YOUTH HOSTEL!

WITH RECENT POLITICAL CHANGES AND FREEDOM, THE FORMER SOVIET UNION
IS FILLED WITH NEW AND EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAVELERS!
NOW YOU CAN EXPERIENCE THE BEAUTY, ART AND CULTURE OF HISTORIC
ST. PETERSBURG INEXPENSIVELY!

TAKE YOUR EURAIL OR INTERAIL PASS TO THE "FINNISH-RUSSIAN" BORDER
OR ANY OTHER RUSSIAN BORDER AND LET YOUR ADVENTURE BEGIN!

RUSSIA IS WAITING!

FOR RESERVATIONS OR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE
CALL OR SEND A STAMPED SELF-ADDRESSED ENVELOPE TO:

RUSSIAN YOUTH HOSTELS AND TOURISM
409 N PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY
BUILDING 106, SUITE 390
REDONDO BEACH, CA 90277
USA

Telephone: (310) 379-4316 Fax: (310) 379-8420

IN FINLAND, PLEASE CONTACT THE FOLLOWING:

FINNISH YOUTH HOSTEL ASSOCIATION - (90) 694-0377
KILROY TRAVELS - (90) 624-101
FINNSOV TOURS - (90) 694-2511
FINNTOURIST - (90) 644-408

IN SWEDEN, PLEASE CONTACT THE FOLLOWING:

KILROY TRAVELS - (0)8-234 515
VIA RESEPRODUKTION AB - (0)8-657 67 50
FRAM-RESOR AB - (0)8-21 59 34

*Reservations should be made at least 4-6 weeks in advance*

DOSVEDANYA!
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From: cfrnb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Bob Barger)
Subject: Restaurants in San Francisco
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:29:29 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

Does anyone have any suggestions on good restaraunts in San
Francisco? Are some of the older ones, like Ernie's on North Beach
or Scoma's on the wharf still to be recommended? 

Thanks for any responses.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 92 07:00:42 EDT
From:         teej <JAMES@MUPPET.DNET.GE.COM>
Subject:      Re-post from NUTWORKS [NETEQ]
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Hello - "Mr. Net Etiquette" here...

I got this post this morning from NUTWORKS (rec.humor.funny). I thought it
holds a message to all of us.  Enjoy!

---
 Thomas R. James, GE Aerospace/GESD, Moorestown, NJ USA 609/722-6673
 INTERnet: JAMES@MUPPET.DNET.GE.COM  "GE: We bring good things to life."

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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 92 08:21:32 PDT
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM>
Subject:      Re: Restaurants in San Francisco
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              11 Apr 92 14:29:29 GMT from <cfrnb@UX1.CTS.EIU.EDU>

For $1 and an SASE to DVRG, Box 569, SF CA 94127-0569 you can get a one-
page guide to the best restaurant values in SF.  If you want to save
money, you can substitute a business card for the $1.
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:34:03 EDT
From:         Doug Cutler <UNCDWC@UNCVM1>
Subject: Re: 1-800-CALLWVA
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     It came yesterday, looks as if it is packed with good information
 to go allong with the AAA guide to WV.


  Doug. Cutler                       Office of Information Technology,
  VM Systems Programmer              University of North Carolina.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 13:13:19 CDT
From:         AA741CN <AA741CN@TCUAMUS>
Subject:      Restaurants in San Francisco
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   A restaurant I'd really suggest is TRADER VICS. It is Polynesian
(not Chinese!!) and has fantastic food and drinks....Well worth
the cost....


John Schuster
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 92 21:36:00 EDT
From:         Tom White <WHITE@URVAX>
Subject:      Interstate 95 thru Va.
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Just to let folks know, those @#$^$%^ tolls between Richmond and
Petersburg, Va. will at last be history after 33 years this July 1.

This 26 mile piece of I-95 has 3 toll booths that are more of a hazzard
than anything else. One, the Belvidere Toll Plaza, is around a bend
in the road where it's hard to see and at the bottom of a steep hill.
Many people have lost their lives here. Morning and afternoon traffic
pile up and take 20 to 30 minutes to get through.

These tolls were supposed to be removed after the highway was paid for,
which happened a LONG time ago. Local commuters can get tickets for
about $.08 each good at the 10 cent and the 50 cent plazas. The real
plan was to soak the snow birds and pay for other local highways most
never see.

The General Assembly was dismissed today until next year (today was the
veto session). The demolition contracts have been awarded and I really
think they are GONE! Demolition will not start until after July 4 and
will take 4 months, so there may still be some delays.

By the way, July 1 is also the day that the I-295 bypass - which goes
around all the existing toll plazas - is set to open (toll free). I
think they milked it for every dime they could. Hopefully, the next
time you stop and spend money in central Va. will be because you WANT
to, not to help pay for our local roads you don't use. This has been
a source of embarassment to most Virginians and I'm glad it's gone!!!


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                            Tom White
                          Network Manager
                       University of Richmond
                         Richmond, Va. 23173

                   BITNET   - WHITE@URVAV.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:31:33 EDT
From:         "silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!" <ST102397@BROWNVM>
Subject:      working/living W.Canada & Alaska
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I was wondering if anyone can direct me to some information about working
up in Alaska and/or B.C. or Alberta, or better yet if someone has done it.
My roomate and I are talking about getting up to Alaska next summer ('93)
to work. I've heard mixed reports, ie. "Let's Go" says working in the
canneries you get about $6/hr, whereas i heard that the pay, in general
was phenomenal up there. I've heard outrageous stories about going out on
fishing boats, too: extrememly dangerous but extrememly profitable. I'm
not especially worried about the pay except that the cost of living
is reportedly really high and I need to clear some money for school.
  I am a Canadian citizen, my roomate is not. Also, since I am considering
taking the year off next year, I am considering working up in B.C. or
Alberta then meeting him there to go up to Alaska. Any Advice? information
about working up in B.C.? Thanx in advance,
                             Mick
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 92 12:57:00 EDT
From:         FRANK SOFSKY <E7L8SOF@TOWSONVX>
Subject:      Re: Delivery a car
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1 It is doubtful that a car delivery Company will allow a person without
  a valid Driver's license issued in the U.S.A. especially for insurance
  purposes.
2 It is not for FREE, you must still pay for gas and oil.
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 92 10:12:26 EDT
From:         ST801804@BROWNVM
Subject:      Places to stay in Beijing
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I'm going to bein Beijing April 25 to May 11.
I need a place to stay and I'm aware it can be hard to find places to
stay in Beijing.  Anyone have any advice or help?  Possibly an address I
can write to requesting to book a room?  I'm in Hong Kong now, and plan
to see China Travel Services to see if they can be of any help, but I
figured I'd solicit any help I could find from fellow travellers.

Thanks,
Steve
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:30:00 EDT
From:         Tom White <WHITE@URVAX>
Subject:      Re: 1-800-CALLWVA.
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Most of the times I have called the 800 numbers for the Office of Tourism
or whatever it's called in the state I want info on, it usually takes a
couple of months (if you get it at all). I tried to get information from
California, Arizona, and New Mexico for a trip last May, 1991. I started
asking for information around the first of Decembar, 1990. California
came through just after Christmas. I called Az. and NM again, and was told
they would send another packet.

Well, by March I still had nor


not received anything from either. I called again and Arizona promised to
send the info first class. I got it three weeks later. New Mexico was still
missing, but they sent the info a third time (yea, right). By the end of
April, I called the Gov. office. It took a week, but my call was returned.
By then, I had added more things to do in Arizona and totally cut New
Mexico out of my trip, cancelled hotel rooms in NM and added the time and
money spent to Arizona and California. I let the Governor's office know that
they missed out on some tourist dollars because they didn't care.

In July, 2 months after I had returned home and 7 months after I asked for
the info, it finally came.

California used my zip code to pull up my city and state, send colorful
information and geared it towards Southern Cal. as I requested. Maps, events,
etc. Arizona sent maps and some usefull information, but not up to par with
Cal. New Mexico sent a pitiful map and a sheet of useless information.

If I thought my home state of Virginia collected tax money and delivered
the type of service that New Mexico did, I'd be up on a soapbox in every
newspaper in the state. From what I've heard, Va. does deliver a nice
packet of information and maps in a couple of weeks. If not, please let
packet of information and maps in a couple of weeks. If not, please let

packet of information and maps in a couple of weeks. If not, please let
packet of information and maps in a couple of weeks. If not, please let
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 92 19:50:00 MST
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR
Subject:      Denver
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Responding to Doreen Rappaport about Denver....
For restaurants - Tante Louise is a Denver institution for fine French
dining.  A bit expensive, entrees in the $20 to $28 range, wines from $15
to $!!!, but worth every penny.  I've been there about 5 times and have
never come away disappointed.  Cliff Youngs has a four-star rating.  The
only time that I was there, the meal was terrible.  I won't go back.
Falcone's is my favorite in the city.  Entrees from $11 to $18 with soup,
salad, vegetable, and meat, focused on Italian, though not very focused.
While there are certainly a number of pasta dishes, may I suggest an
appetizer of escargot  and the filet with a garlic and caper sauce or
an appetizer of the stuffed mushrooms and an entree of the shrimp
marsala.  If you are there on neither a Monday nor Tuesday, they have
a live jazz band that I enjoy.  If you are into opera and food, there
is an Italian restaurant that has live opera on Thursday through Saturday.
The food is fairly good, service can be inconsistent, and the opera is
reasonable (mostly a mix from various operas, though occassionaly they
will do a whole one).  The name is La Fontanella, prices are in the $15
range for entrees.  There are, of course, many, many other good restaurants
in the city.

Come ready for any weather!!  Yesterday. it was 78.  However, it can still
end up snowing and the nights can be quite cool, if you are walking.  As
an aside, I visited in May, 1989, and they had hda a snow storm the prior
day, though the temperature went into the 60's the next day.

If you have a chance, the mountains can be very interesting.  However,
you will probably need a rental car and at least a full day to see some
of them.  It's about 1 1/2 hours to Keystone and another hour to Vail.

The limited stakes gambling towns are about a hour away.

Coors Brewery in Golden, 30 minutes away, has tours.

I find the Botanical Gardens worth while to vist several times a year.
However, you didn't say exactly when you would be here, so you might want
to call them to find out what is currently blooming.

Do try to get a view of the mountains from your hotel.  They are terrific!

The Sixteenth Street Mall is worthwhile for shopping as is Larimer Square,
both downtown.

There are, of course, places one doesn't go, such as Five-Points, but that
is true with any city.  In general, I have found the city and the people
quite friendly and helpful

Enjoy your stay.
                                        Lloyd Dennington
                                        University of Denver
                                        bitnet%"ldenning@ducair"
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