From: L-Bueno@cup.portal.com (Louis Alberto Bueno)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Rape After Rape After Rape
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 00:03:54 PST
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dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>In article <72433@cup.portal.com> 
>L-Bueno@cup.portal.com (Louis Alberto Bueno) writes:
>>f_gautjw@csvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
>>> I must admit I remain cynical about the article also.  That's not to
>>> say that atrocities have not occured in the Bosnian conflict.  But this
>>> article seems "overcooked".  It reminds me of the propaganda stories
>>> about Iraqi soldiers taking Kuwaiti babies from their hospital incubators.
> 
>> Please explain why said article is "overcooked?"  A handful of
>> stories from among thousands of rapes a bit too much to bear?
>
>I won't comment on the contents of the article, but I will
>point out that the author of this article has cross-posted
>it to many inappropriate newsgroups, and he has never responded
>to the ensuing criticism directed at the article.  This seems 
>to indicate that it might be a propaganda piece designed only
>to encourage US military involvement. 
>
>Here are the newsgroups where I've seen this article: 
>
>   1) soc.religion.islam, soc.rights.human, talk.abortion 

	Islam, sure... the article concerns Muslims, who are, of course,
of the Nation of Islam.  Human social rights, because rape is the act
of having one's social rights breached.  Abortion, you betcha, because
rape is not conducive to giving a happy birth.

>   2) alt.sex, alt.sex.bestiality, alt.society.anarchy

	Okay... I agree with the first two. Sure, sex is involved, but
there are newsgroups dealing with violent and non-consentual sex. Those
sex groups are for people who explore sexuality for the sake of pleasure.
(Yeah, I know a rapist can be considered a "beast," but that's not what
alt.sex.bestiality is for! :-)  Anarchy?  Perhaps.  After all, that whole
region could be considered to be in a state of anarchy, depending on your
viewpoint.  But with all of the other newsgroups saturated thus, I concede
that it's not as necessary in alt.society.anarchy.

>   3) alt.society.civil-liberty, alt.true-crime, aus.politics

	Okay, again... certain liberties are being denied, but the subject
of rape could be considered off-topic there, I'm not sure.  True-crime?
We don't know it for a fact yet, therefore, premature, not necessary there.
Hmmm... what IS aus.politics??? :-)  Austrian or Australian politics???
If it's Austria, perhaps because it's right next to the Balkans... *sigh*

>   4) soc.culture.croatia, soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.usa

	Croatia, absolutely.  Europe, Absolutely.  USA - NOT!

>   5) alt.activism, alt.conspiracy, ?? 

	Activism... but of course.  Brain food for radical minds, don't
ya know :-)  Conspiracy could fit under the framework of ethnic cleansing,
which is very much one of the definitions of conspiracy.

>   6) soc.culture.yugoslavia (posted at least twice)

	Yugoslavia, absolutely... Twice?  Maybe the poster had a 
propagation error which turned out to be false, and posted the first
as well as the second?

>   7) talk.politics.theory, talk.rape, talk.religion.misc

	I could see it under just talk.politics.general, as the Balkan
conflict is already a current topic there.  Talk.rape, absolutely.
Talk.religion.misc?  Well, I'll agree that with soc.religion.islam, the
base is covered there.

>There are probably more newsgroups which I don't know
>about, but you get the idea. (Anyone care to add to
>the list?)

	The only feeling I'm left with is that of jealousy... I don't
have enough hours in the day to be able to cover so many newsgroups to be 
able to notice such an ample cross-posting. :-)

	Take care,

>Doug Holtsinger

--Louis
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