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From: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr)
Subject: Re: Galaxy-class Starships
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:40:42 GMT

In <13404@bnr-rsc.UUCP> coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira) writes:

>	There was also another Galaxy-class starship in the episode "Conspiracy", captained by Picard's fried.  Unfortunately, the ship also blew up, causing the Enterprise to return to Earth.

Actually, I believe that was an Ambassador class starship.  The same class of
the U.S.S. Enterprise - C.  (Note that, in Star Trek the Role Playing Game by
FASA, the stats and diagrams listed for the Ambassador Class Starships are all
screwed in The Next Generation Officer's Manual (c) 1988.  This manual was
later replaced by the "First Year Sourcebook" after a lawsuit (Paramount vs.
FASA Corporation.)

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From: jj6707@meibm7.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski)
Subject: Re: Early results of book poll
Organization: CCSO College of Engineering Workstations
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:46:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.065807.22566@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Denes.House@launchpad.unc.edu (Denes House) writes:
 I wonder if Peter Jennings has 
 ever felt this way on election night?
|>
        YES!!!!    I like this little comment!!

Dittos all
 John  
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: A Good Captain
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:12:08 GMT

qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:

>> >	Perhaps Riker WOULD make a good captain, but let's
>> >consider this:  the Enterprise is often being referred to as
>> >the "flagship of the Federation" (whatever THAT is), and is
>> >certainly Starfleet's most powerful vessel.  Regardless of how
>> >good ANY first officer is, would he really be given the
>> >Enterprise as his FIRST command.  I doubt it.
>> 
>> Perhaps your memory is failing you, then.  Riker *was* given
>> command of the Enterprise, in Best of Both Worlds.  Not "temporary
>> command," either -- no one expected to get Picard back at that point.
>> 
>	What where they going to do, say "Well, we don't trust
>you to captain the ship, just sit where you are and will send
>someone out to get you."?

No, but they're certianly not going to say "Hmm, we really don't want
to hurt Riker's feelings so, even though we don't think he's qualified,
we'll still let him be in charge of our biggest and best ship." Now, if
they didn't intend to have him stay in command, they could have said 
"Well, for now you're [Riker] to be incharge with a temporary field
promotion to Captian" or something to that effect. (Please no flames 
about how a commander can command a ship!)

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From: ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III)
Subject: DSN airs Jan 5 in Los Angeles
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:25:16 PST


Source:  Promo ads aired over the weekend.


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From: destill@mtu.edu (Still)
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:29:22 GMT

jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>
>Why would people need to "open up to her" if she can read what they're  
>feeling?
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	It's not POLITE to read other people's minds (that was mentioned in
a few previous episodes, not sure which).  Besides, it doesn't help her
patients if only _she_ knows the problem.  Her patients need to know too, or
something along those lines.
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From: shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard)
Subject: Re: How do you start a flame war? Glad you asked ...
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:38:20 GMT

plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.202616.27199@panix.com> jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau) writes:
>>falkenha@ug.cs.dal.ca (Craig R. Falkenham) writes:
>>
>>>The top ten things ways to start a flame war on rec.arts.startrek.current:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>> 1.  Gene who?
>>
>>Shouldn't this be "Jean who?"

>Check the credits dude, Gene  is the correct spelling, always has been, 
>always will be...

>I hate to flame but where have you been???

Where have *you* been, James?  You must have missed the thread about a
jerk who blasphemed our Gene by spellin his name "Jean Rodanbary" (or
some equally incorrect way) in order to bait us.  Craig just forgot
the requisite :-) at the end of his "Jean who?" question.

Shari Bernhard
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Action Figure Observation
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:56:49 GMT

In article <cboerm48.724117194@ursa> cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:
>dmccart@gomez.intel.com (D. J. McCarthy) writes:
>
>>Bruce James Robrert Linley (linley@netcom.com) wrote:
>>> In a previous article dmccart@gomez.intel.com (D. J. McCarthy) spake...
>>>>	After hitting three Toys R Us's around the area, I have yet to
>>>> see a Troi action figure.  Plenty of Borg but no Troi.  Fascinating.
>
>>> There's nothing weird here. They just don't make dolls^H^H^H^H^Haction figures
>>> of women. How many Princess Lea figures did they sell (relative to the
>>> others)?
>
>>	I almost hate to admit this, but I'm not buying them to play
>>with.  The Yar figure I bought for $1.99 at Kay-Bee two years ago is
>>selling for around $35 these days.  If the Troi doll is the rare one I
>>want a whole mess of them!
>
>I remeber seeing somewhere that Troi was not finished yet and she'd

Typical woman... never ready on time!! :)


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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:42:19 GMT

christopher stone writes
> I think she does not wear a uniform because it is easier for the
> patients she counsels to "open up" to her [...]

Why would people need to "open up to her" if she can read what they're  
feeling?
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From: schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten)
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "Chain of Command -1" (spoilers)
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R & D
	<1992Dec15.160422.14365@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:02:54

Duck and cover, spoilers ahead.














In article <1992Dec15.160422.14365@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mbrubake@ketone.ecn.purdue.edu (Admiral) writes:
> In article <BzADJJ.D89@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:
>>
> 
> ^L
> ^L
> 
> 

> Both Captain Jerrico and the Vice-Admiral are corrupt. This was easily seen
> in their Code-2 message near the end of the episode. 
> 
> He said to the effect: 'One way or another our friends have done it.'
> 
> Meaning whether Picard and company was captured, the signal has stopped.
> 
> To which she replies: 'And what about our other friends, I do wish to
> 		       see them again.'
> 
> The key word is OTHER, meaning their mutually friends the Cardassians.
I didn't hear her say `other'.  I just interpreted this whole exchange
as sort of speaking in open code for an extra level of security.  Just
like any good old WWII movie, or STII (`You lied.' `I exaggerated.').

Dale Schouten
schouten@uiuc.edu
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From: Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com
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Subject: ST:DS9: Repost of Sat Feed info for Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 11:33:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


The following info came from a post on GEnie.  I have yet to have
anyone else confirm this info.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine premiere sat feed:
Wednesday  12/30  6:45 pm to  9:00 pm EST  T301/10V
Saturday    1/2  10:00 am to 12:15 pm EST  T301/10V
Sunday      1/3   3:00 pm to  5:15 pm EST  T301/5V
Audio is 6.2 left, 6.8 right, 5.8 mono

Weekly feeds (starting Jan 9) will be:
Saturday         10:00 am to 11:00 am EST  T301/5V
                  4:00 pm to  5:00 pm EST  T301/5V
Sunday            4:00 pm to  5:00 pm EST  T301/5V

First episodes will be:

Week of    Ep #     Title
 1/11      403      A Man Alone
 1/18      404      Past Prologue
 1/25      405      Babel

NOTES:
T301 is Telestar 301
5V is 5 Vertical and corresponds to Transponder 9 (the same one ST:TNG is on)
10V is 10 Vertical and corresponds to Transonder 19

Other reports indicate that the fourth episode will be the "Q" episode, 
titled "Q Less".
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From: Denes.House@launchpad.unc.edu (Denes House)
Subject: NOVEL VOTING--Long version cancelled
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:33:32 GMT

	Well, It took meover an hour, but I finally got the long
version typed in, almost-- and then the telnet quit unexpectedly.

	Frustrated beyond belief!

	If you would like a copy of the long version, e-mail me
at dhouse@itsmail1.hamilton.edu
	That server has a more user-friendly interface that doesn't
quit on you so often.
	I am going home for Christmas break on Friday the 18th.
	If you request by noon on the 18th, I'll send you  a copy.

Thanks, and sorry!


--Denes House



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From: aewright@unix.amherst.edu (Anthony E. Wright)
Subject: Re: Ferengi History question
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:41:46 GMT

Thanks to all who responded to my query. I guess I need to watch "The Battle,"
which I have only heard about second hand. Another question about this whole
history.

Scott McCoy (smccoy@dw3v.ess.harris.com) wrote
: 
: First of all, Picard never knew it was a *Ferengi* vessel, until Daimon Bok
: (sp?) told him it was.  So there is no continuity problem there.  The
: (then) unidentified ship ambushed the Stargazer, which was abandoned
: after the battle.  If you assume the sensor logs were not recovered from
: the Stargazer, then no one would have any data on the attacking ship.
: 
: |> Picard was
: |> supposedly court-martialed for this action, but let go.
: |> 
: 
: Nope.  The Ferengi faked the Stargazer log to indicate that Picard
: fired first.  The fakery was discovered during the episode.  Picard
: was not court-martialed.

Just one note about this. In the beginning of "The Measure of a Man," Picard
meets the prosecuting attorney, who is now an admiral, who supposedly grilled
Picard during the court-martial on the loss of the Stargazer. Am I remembering
wrong, or would this be the court martial regarding his destruction of the
Ferengi ship? Thanks.

						Peace,
						Anthony
From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Galaxy-class Starships
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:52:56 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: phlan.sw.stratus.com

In article <13404@bnr-rsc.UUCP> coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira) writes:
>There was also another Galaxy-class starship in the episode "Conspiracy",
>captained by Picard's friend.

Bzzzt.  Sorry, that is incorrect.  The ship you're referring to was of
Ambassador class, not Galaxy class.




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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:04:05 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <BzBr6J.D04@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>christopher stone writes
>> I think she does not wear a uniform because it is easier for the
>> patients she counsels to "open up" to her [...]
>
>Why would people need to "open up to her" if she can read what they're  
>feeling?

Because the first step in emotional healing is admitting it to yourself.  If
Troi just reads their emotions, they don't have the opportunity to express
themselves to her and thus learn about themselves. (Psych 101).


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From: mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker)
Subject: Re: Episode Argument
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:12:46 GMT

hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>Having an argument.  What was the name of the episode where Riker gets trapped
>in some alien holodeck and is convinced he is trapped by Romulans, latter to
>find out it is some kids playhouse set up by his parents.

>Matt
>Hodge3726@uni.edu

"Future Imperfect"

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Beverly heats up... *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:51:16 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec17.052706.19643@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
>Possible spoilers for Chain of Command...

>
>Sorry but I have to ask, but was anyone else as shocked as I was to see Dr.
>Crusher use her sexuallity to coerce the Farengi into providing transport?
>It seemed a collosal blunder to have Beverly, the traditionally wholesome
>mother figure, suddenly radiating sex. Out of character, IMHO. This is not
>to say that I wasn't oddly pleased to see a side of the good doctor I've
>never seen before. I guess what I'm saying is that while it was titillating,
>keep these scenes to a minimum. I'd hate to see Beverly turn into a slut
>like Troi(who, by the way, could never match Bev's performance in this
>aspect). I can see that that I'm rambling, so I'll stop here.
>
It was out of character from Worf and Picard's point of view as well.  Review
it again, Picard gives a very subtle look of surprise when Bev starts in on
this... and Worf's eyes get REALLY big at first, then he puts his best 
Klingon Poker Face (tm) back on. (What was it Riker calls him? The Iceman?)


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From: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison)
Subject: Re: chain of command...?
Reply-To: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:36:12 GMT

"bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:

> confirm this or not!  Is it going to be Relics or Chain of Command next
> week?

Chain of Command Part 1 was uplinked on Saturday, 12 december.
 
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: A Good Captain
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:03:45 GMT

ewright@convex.com  writes:
> In <1992Dec13.100634.25440@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
> 
> >	Perhaps Riker WOULD make a good captain, but let's
> >consider this:  the Enterprise is often being referred to as
> >the "flagship of the Federation" (whatever THAT is), and is
> >certainly Starfleet's most powerful vessel.  Regardless of how
> >good ANY first officer is, would he really be given the
> >Enterprise as his FIRST command.  I doubt it.
> 
> Perhaps your memory is failing you, then.  Riker *was* given
> command of the Enterprise, in Best of Both Worlds.  Not "temporary
> command," either -- no one expected to get Picard back at that point.
> 
> 
> 
	What where they going to do, say "Well, we don't trust
you to captain the ship, just sit where you are and will send
someone out to get you."?
						-Quinn
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Galaxy-class Starships
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:01:21 GMT

In article <149@bbx.basis.com> anewton@bbx.basis.com (Allen J. Newton) writes:
>In Article 21173 cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:
>
>>	I'm assuming that "flagship of the Federation" simply means it's their 
>>biggest, most powerful ship. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other
>>Galaxy-class Star Ships. I've never seen then, or heard them mentioned, but...
>
>    Yes, there are other Galaxy-class starships.  In the episode with
>    Nagaelum (sp?), the creature in the void (season 1, I think), the
>    sister ship of the Enterprise, called the Yamato (I believe that is the
>    correct spelling).
>
>    This ship was destroyed in the episode "Contagion" as a result of the
>    computer virus infecting the computers which controlled the antimatter
>    containment fields, causing the field to collapse.  This was Wesley's
>    first encounter with personally witnessing death (he was pretty
>    wigged-out about it).  I seem to remember the Captain of the Yamato
>    mentioning or alluding to the existence of other Galaxy-class starships
>    which had been commissioned.  Anyway....  Does anyone remember the name
>    of the episode with Nagaelum?

It was called "Where Silence Has Lease".

According to the Techincal Manual, there are about 8 Galaxy class ships 
currently in service with Starfleet (The Galaxy itself being one of them).
Only about three have been mentioned by name on TNG, however.


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From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "Chain of Command -1" (spoilers)
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:58:17 GMT
Organization: Ball State University

In article <BzADJJ.D89@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:
>   One among our ranks did suggest the interesting hypothesis that some corrupt
> admiral wanted Picard to get captured, and therefore set him up for an ambush.
> But if this is the case, we're afraid its an old story.

personally I think it makes perfect sense...

why else would a vice-admiral personally assign them?  and have everything
go directly through her.  Personally I believe that she is a Cardassian
spy or has some like with them.  It doesn't make any sense other wise...

How would the Cardassians know they'd send Picard?

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From: aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu (AMY E. ECKERT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:10:12 GMT
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado

In article <1992Dec17.044247.3351@sbcs.sunysb.edu> gkatz@csws6.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.010527.12853@mercury.cair.du.edu> aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu (AMY E. ECKERT) writes:
>
>>I think that your reasoning is kind of circular.  In order for women to be
>>accepted as leaders, we need to have more women leaders, but they won't be
>>accepted because there aren't very many, and around and around and around.
>>The way to break this is to put women in positions of leadership and by
>>doing so change people's perceptions.  I vote for a female captain!
>>
>>Amy
>>aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu
>>
>
>Let's not forget, and certainly hope it's the case, that for woman to be captain of a ship,
>or a political leader, that she received that positoin because she was the best
>person for the job at the time of its availability.  In other words, I do not want
>a woman in any position of authority just because she's a woman, and I don't want
>a man in any position of authority just because he's a man.

I agree with you completely.  Putting an incompetent woman in a position
of authority SOLELY because she is a woman could do more harm than good.
I wouldn't want a woman as captain only because of her gender.  Gender
should not be the basis of choosing a leader, but at the same time, gender
should not be the basis of denying someone leadership.

Amy
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