From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Family values defined
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:58:47 GMT
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In article <70150@hydra.gatech.EDU> 
rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
>In article <fTxZEXM@quack.sac.ca.us> 
pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:
>>In article <69731@hydra.gatech.EDU> 
>>rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
>>>Depends on the situation - I can see why one would not want a homosexual
>>>representing one's company.
>>I see. And this bigotry you are displaying, would this be one of your
>>examples of family values? Is homophobia a family value you will be
>Oh, I see I have an irrational fear of homosexuals.

Before I put words in your mouth, perhaps you'd care to explain why one
would not want a homosexual representing one's company? What is wrong
with a homosexual representing one's company? Please, explain the
dangers you see? What would you do if your son or daughter were
homosexual?

>Or is it just
>your claim that I do because I speak against their actions and not
>the person?

Separating actions from people is a convenient and very effective
propaganda technique. It de-personifies what is a person. It is much
easier to HATE and PERSECUTE an action than a person. It is much easier
to kill people in the name of HATE of action than of HATE of person.
HATE the sin, LOVE the sinner, LOVE the sinner to death. Richard, we are
not talking about actions, we are talking about people. Don't get conned
by propaganda techniques into PERSECUTING actual people. The person you
HATE may be your own son or daughter, the person you HATE may be you!
Luke 14:26 is part of your own Bible. It is you who will have to deal
with it. Don't ever forget that you are being tested. And don't ever
forget that being a Christian means you have to deal with the Christian
Devil. Think for yourself for a change, propaganda is not your style.

>Pray for those who persecute us.

First pray for those whom YOU persecute! Ego is the way of darkness. You
are not being persecuted, you are being tested. Watch out for that
Christian Devil and his message of HATE. You are being tempted to also
show HATE, HATRED of your imagined PERSECUTORS.

>Do good for evil.

NO! No deal with the Christian Devil! The ends do not justify the means.
You are being tested!

>Count is all joy when you suffer for Christ.

You are not suffering Richard. Look for tthe people that are
suffering and help them. Ego is the way of darkness. Serve your ego and
you serve the Christian Devil.

>Love you neighbor as yourself.

But, don't HATE yourself!

>Love does no harm to any one.

Unless HATRED is being served in the name of love. Unless the work of
the Christian Devil is being done in the name of Jesus! Be sure that
what you do is in the name of love and not HATRED in the disguise of
love, not HATRED that looks like love to the self-deluded, not
self-HATRED being sold as love.

>Love is the fulfillment of the Law.

HATRED is the perversion of love. One who only knows self-HATRED can not
know love. Luke 14:26 is always there, always tempting you!

>Love God with all of your heart, soul, and mind.

Make sure it is not the Christian Devil that you are in love with. And
remember the crime of Lucifer?

>Associate with people of all positions.
                          ^^^
That's ALL Richard! Don't fall for the Christian Devil's propaganda of
HATE the sin and love the sinner. That is a trick to get you to HATE!
HATRED is not the way of light. NO deals with the Christian Devil! The
ends never justify the means! Do you HATE the Christian Devil?

>Don't consider yourself better than another.

And don't convert others to your beliefs for they may be better than you
and your conversion may commit two souls to Hell instead of just one.

>Look out for the interests of others and not just yourself.

But, make sure those interests aren't the interests of the Christian
Devil.

>Obey God rather than men.

Don't blame God for your actions. You will be held accountable.