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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: NOT! (was Re: Virginia WINS)
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:01:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.205912.288@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JonaX) writes:

>Well...the score with  less than 2 minutes left in the first half 
>               VIRGINIA 28 to CLEMSON's 0 !!!!!!!
>
>Looks like Virginia will be seeing a lot more national coverage...
>...especially Terry Kirby, Chris Slade, and Bobby Goodman!!!
>Let the hype begin : VIRGINIA vs Florida State  October 1st !!!
>

I have a few points to make.

1.  October 1st was sometime over a week ago.  FSU-UVA wasn't.

2.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.  Bad net-predictions
    during a game are much less forgivable than those made before the
    game.  Does the Goober School admit people who erroneously
    net-woof while the game is in progress?

3.  NOT.  Clemson 29.  UVA 28.

Congratulations to Clemson on the best come-from-behind win I can ever
remember seeing.  I even cheered for them :)


go jackets!   (and why the heck did Maryland score 26 points?)
-- 
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From: kollur@jec310.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: Re: Bama vs Tenn TV
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:05:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.181823.26357@b11.b11.ingr.com> jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com writes:
>
>  ABC is carrying the game at 2:30 CDT.  It is a regional telecast while
>Auburn/Florida is a National telecast @11:00.  Looks like a goof.

I don't think Auburn/Florida is a national telecast. I think it's regional too.
(I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got from the promos last night)
I am really pissed off that Bama/Tenn is not a national telecast. Maybe it
has something to do with Tenn losing last week and with my luck I am sure
the local ABC station will have Michigan/Indiana or some pointless
Pac-10 game. 
I never thought I would ever say this but I really wish I was back in the
south again.
Ramana

ROLL TIDE!
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From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael E. Dupree)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Originator: zmed0b@zircon
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:39:29 GMT


In article <1992Oct14.030429.9119@scubed.com>, wilkins@scubed.com (Darin Wilkins) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.211958.2426@dvorak.amd.com> chrisk@nucleus.amd.com
> (Chris Kosh) writes:
> 
> >Would someone in this newsgroup please pass the word to the
> >peons in oklahoma that its time once again.  Let them know to
> >go ahead and begin talking because they simply cannot beat a
> >team from a superior state, regardless of talent, tradition,
> >ranking, or record.
> 
> Hmmm.  By this 'logic', the state of Texas is not superior to Oklahoma.
> 
> Somehow, I don't think that is the impression Mr Kosh is trying to
> leave.
> 

I would.  At least Oklahoma doesn't have 7.9% unemployment. Maybe 
Mr. Kosh should figure out where to get some talent and pass it out
to his "superior" (NOT!) state.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: One-sided Rivalries
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:21:34 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley) wrote:
}
}I saw the words to an Alabama fight song the other day.  It was
}interesting to note that both Georgia Tech and Georgia were 
}mentioned in it but no other schools.  And to think that all the talk
}going on now is whether Auburn or Tenn. is a bigger game for Alabama.   

That song was written during the ~30 year period in which Alabama
and Auburn did not play each other.  The series had to be suspended
because it had gotten too heated and violent.

I don't know why Tennessee isn't mentioned.

The best line I've heard about that fight song came from former Auburn
running back Terry Henley, when asked by a 'Bama person:

"When are y'all going to stop talking about those dang blocked punts?"

He replied:

"When y'all stop singing about the Rose Bowl!"

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
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From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:40:01 GMT

In <4bF303Mea9m000@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:

>  BTW, Stanford should still be a top-10 team by the time they play the
>Huskies- and they face Arizona before then as well.  I think Arizona is
>good, but they are still going to lose to the Cardinal and the Huskies.

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Foul. 15 yards, illegal use of the woof. 

It is not possible to woof one's nemesis into losing an upcoming game.  
Woofing/anti-woofing theorem applies only to the team, its band,
coaches, cheerleaders, and fans.  The anti-woofing penalty cannot be
assessed by the actions of their rivals.

You can't penalize the opposing fans.
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From: alspach@cs.sfu.ca (Brian Alspach)
Subject: Re: Miami - FSU
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:27:53 GMT

Kevin Delgado writes the following:

>On the the subject of defense, I was wondering what defense Washington uses
>exactly. I have only seen one or two Washington games on TV, and then I was
>only really half watching...not paying too much attention to details. People
>keep saying that they use an eight man front, I was wondering if that was
>just a 3-4/4-3 defense with the LB's brought up on the line, or if it was the
>"2 layer defense" recently devised (1991 I think) to stop the high powered
>modern offenses. I'll diagram the 4-3/3-4 defense and the two-layer and maybe
>some net-expert can tell me exactly which UW uses.
(the rest deleted)

Washington basically uses the 3-4 defense. The two outside linebackers are
always on the line of scrimmage and one of the safeties (Tommy Smith) is
often on the line of scrimmage. The two corners and the inside linebackers
operate from a variety of locations depending on the situation. However, as
in most things, there are other complicating factors. Not only is positioning
important, but so is the choice of personnel. Washington has only two
defensive linemen that fit the canonical form, that is, really big and
really strong. The other defensive lineman (Andy Mason) would have been
a linebacker a few years ago. Several of the outside linebackers (Jaime
Fields, for example) would have been safeties in another lifetime. All
that the fans see is a defense that is a lot of fun to watch. They give
up some big offensive plays, but they make even more spectacular defensive
plays. This year they have been more entertaining than the offense.






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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Threads That Are Never Resolved
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:08:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.142256.13289@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>Threads that never get resolved on the net, but show up at least once a
>year:
>
>My school's marching band is the best / better than....
>
>What is the biggest rivalry in college football?
>
>Who deserved the national championship?

My conference is better than your conference.

Team X has a lame/tough schedule

NotreDame Broadcasting Company

Notre Dame stealth bowl negotiators

Miami's players are no more criminal than anyone elses' players

The great ice tea debate

What's a goober?

East Coast Media Bias

Who are the morons who make the computer rankings?

What's the Boilerweenie Institute?  The Institute fo Geauxing and
Kneauxing?  The Goober School for the Clueless?

Who has the record for the most/best/worst <random stat> when/during
<random condition>?

Hookem' Horns / Clueless Cows  etc.

(Maybe we should make a FAQ for this newsgroup)



>-- 
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu


-- 
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     founder of civilization."     -- Sigmund Freud
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From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Goober in sci.physics 
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:04:14 GMT

crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:

>In article <abian.718940281@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu> abian@iastate.edu 
>(Alexander Abian) writes:
>>  I still maintain that:
>>    
>>   THE TENDENCY OF MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO,  REACTION TO PROVOCATION 
>>           AND THE TENDENCY OF MAINTAINING AGAIN A STATUS QUO
>>
>>     is the overall principle which governs all the events in the Cosmos.
>>                                       
>>                                                        Alexander ABIAN    

>     Here's my prediction, based on my 'Peanut-butter principle'. You'll
>     continue to desire to be creamed goobers by asserting to all and
>     sundry that informationless metaphysics is has some meaning in
>     science.  Unfortunately, you will still be incorrect.

>     By the way, this exchange is not irritating to me in the least.
>     I've waited *years* to get 'goober' into a USENET posting.
				 ^^^^^^^

Gary, you've made it! You're famous all accross USENET now...

Obviously, dale bass has never read r.s.f.c. He has no clue you
have already been in countless USENET postings and even have
an Academy named after you :-)


>                                dale bass

Serdar

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heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
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From: chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: ACC Refs (Cane fans Whine when they win)
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:39:04 GMT




I'm glad to see that the ACC refs knew from the opening kickoff FSU
would need all the help they could get to win this game.  I'm surprised
they didn't call the last field goal good.


Man, I don't even whine this much after a Carolina basketball loss.



I've seen plenty of ACC games and other than them cheating like the devil
for NC State, I've never noticed any real bias.  Some bad calls, but plenty
both ways.



Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org
From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: It's Conlan, not Conlon!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:11:09 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

If people are going to talk about a pro bowl linebacker, at least spell the
guys name right.

It's SHANE CONLAN!!!!!! you weenies..

The final interception was indeed by Pete Giftopolous(sp).???  


                                                              Mike Kelley
                                                              HRB Systems
                                                              St. College, Pa.

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From: dwray@convex.com (Daryl Wray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: tu at Austin football
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:35:00 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Oct13.224623.369@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.191808.6577@bnr.ca> ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna) writes:
>>Mike, damn it, you know what, you are absolutely right, the steers do
>>have a winning record against everyone else in the SWC.  It's also a
>>fact that Texas Tech has a winning record against us (Fightin' Texas
>>Aggies), but it sure as hell didn't do them any good a couple of weeks
>>ago, now did it?  ;-)
>
>[I think this is right, but I've been wrong before]
>Texas Tech doesn't have a winning record against A&M.  Up until this year,
>they had a winning SWC record against us, but it is now tied at 16-16.  When
>you consider games played before Texas Tech joined the SWC, the series is more
>like (this is a guess) 24-18 in A&M's favor.
>
>- goober (now what in the hell did i do with that book that had the overall
>          a&m records in it) smith

Actually..., A&M is 16-16-1 against TT since they joined the SWC.  The tie
coming in 1960, the first year for TT in the SWC.  Before that, the Ag's
were 13-5 vs TT, bringing the overall record to 29-21-1 (including '92).

daryl (that books right here) wray
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:31:08 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
 <1992Oct10.231835.23782@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 <1992Oct11.013903.14858@walter.bellcore.com> <44830@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
 <92286.203223JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu> <92286.225259MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>

It's not who wins or loses, it's how you play the game!
Yeah, right - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
                                                           -The Lion
From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rose Bowl..National Champiom??
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:21:50
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
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In-reply-to: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:55:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.175510.2538@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
	tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:

   Look what you've done! Aaaargh! Now Stanford has no chance of
   winning... You're *not* supposed to say things like that before the
   game. It goes like this: you spend the weeks leading up to the game
   saying how good they are, you show up an underdog, you spot'em a 16-0
   lead to make them overconfident and then, BAM! 33 unanswered points...

Won't work, guys; you've already used up your upset karma for this
season.  You'll go up there and get beat becuase you unwisely made the
decision to use your upset karma points on a non-conference opponent.

Now, we at Cal are obviously saving our upset karma points for an
opponent later this season.  In fact, we get a few extra karma points
for having been upset.  I could tell you who we're gonna use them on,
but, well, that would violate the Woofing Theorem.  

David Paschich

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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:20:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.
Keywords: #1 Huskies Vs. #2 Wolverines in the Rose Bowl!!!!!

In article <92537@netnews.upenn.edu> taoc@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao) writes:
>Here's the AP Top 25 teams with records through Oct. 11.
>
>                   Record
> 1. Washington      5-0-0
> 2. Miami, Fla      5-0-0
> 6. Florida St.     5-1-0	(1 loss to Miami)
> 8. Stanford        5-1-0	(On Washington's schedule.. I think;-))
> 9. Penn St.        5-1-0	(1 loss to Miami)
>11. Nebraska        4-1-0	(1 loss to Washington)
>14. Syracuse        4-1-0	(On Miami's schedule .. I think:-))
>18. Southern Cal    2-1-1	(1 loss to Washington)
>20. Boston College  4-0-1	(On Miami's schedule)
>22. Washington St.  5-0-0	(On Washington's schedule)
>24. West Virginia   3-0-2	(On MMiami's schedule)
>

Note that the difference in the AP was 1 point!!!  Both teams had the same
number of #1 votes.  Most of the other polls had the Canes #1...

>And playing high school girl football teams most of the time and sneak by
>two top 10 teams by sheer luck DO NOT qualify as #1!


As opposed to Washington, who has played high school football teams and 
no top ten teams.  Yes, they have played 3 teams that are or were in the top
25, but so has Miami (Iowa was ranked much like Cal. was...) Victories over
#3 and #5/7, as well as #23 (or whatever Iowa was ranked) is much more 
impressive than victories over #11 #18, and #23 (Whatever Cal. was ranked when
they played Washington).  And, looking at who they both have left, Miami
still has 3 more ranked opponents to play (Boston College #20, WVirginia#24,
and #14 Syracuse) as opposed to Washington and their 2 more(#22 WSU, and
#8 Stanford).  Say they both go undefeated..  What sounds better
Miami with it's 6 ranked opponents, at least 2 of which were top 7 teams,
or Washington with it's 5 ranked opponents??  And, if we look at only
right now, Miami has beaten PSU/FSU which were ranked at the time, and still
are, and Iowa who was ranked, but isn't any longer.  They also have to 
play Boston COllege this week, another ranked team (though if they get beat,
they probably won't be any longer either).  Out of 6 games, that would be
6 ranked opponents, two in the top 7.  Washington has played 3 ranked teams,
one of which is no longer ranked, and none in the top 10.  
Seems to me that Washington is playing the patsies here...
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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: Miss St 14, Auburn 7
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:23:58 GMT

jim@pustule.b29.ingr.com (Jim Weeks) writes:
>|> Hmm.  I wonder if he can help me get a loan......
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|> David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 


>    'fraid you're outta luck, remember he is no longer Athletic Loan Officer
>  only the ATM...But hey...Maybe Jackie Sherral (sp?) could help.

Well, Jackie spent all his extra money on cattle surgery  :-)

David

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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:44:30 GMT

In article <Bvs40w.8nw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:
>cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
>
>>The student section commonly chants "Bor-ing" and "High School Band" whenever
>>opposing teams marching bands take the field to perform. I believe we
>>did just that at the Citrus Bowl. 
>
>I know, I was there.  Why even take the fiield though?  It's just a waste of
>time for everyone watching.  If the student body doesn't like them, then who
>is going to?!?!?!
>

I think you misunderstood my post. We (UVa) ridiculed *your* band.
We *like* the Pep Band.

-- 
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U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
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From: chyang@langshan.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Pac10 is the best conference so far
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:29:28 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
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Originator: chyang@langshan.engin.umich.edu


In article <71008@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
> TJFAN@WATSON.IBM.COM wrote:
> } 
> }Stanford (too bad that wasn't USC) over Notre Dame (Independent)
> }Washington over Nebraska (Big 8)
> }USC over Oklahoma (Big 8)
> }California over Kansas (Big 8)
> }UCLA over BYU (WAC)
> }..anything else?
> 
> Yes - 
> USC tied San Diego State (WAC)
> Purdue thrashed Kal (Big Ten)
> Texas A&M over Stanfurd (SWC)
> Miami over Arizona (Big East)
> 
> }And also given the current AP or UPI rankings:
> }Washington (1 or 2)
> }Stanford (8 or 9)
> }USC (20)
> }Washington State (21)
> 
> How about the ACC:
> 
> Florida State (6)
> Georgia Tech (16)
> Virginia (17)
> Clemson (19)
> North Carolina State (21)

	This is another meaningless woof.  We all just have to see how 
these teams do in a bowl games.  Changes are some PAC-10 teams will be 
matched up against ACC teams.  I didn't think that ACC did too well 
last season(with the exception of FSU of course).  Again meaningless
woof.  But we will be able to tell by the end of the season.  

	I think, the PAC-10 is capable of beating many teams in other
conferences.  But we'll have to see by the end of the year.

- Chung Yang

> 
> }..The reason that many of these teams are not ranked higher because they were
> }   beaten by other Pac-10 teams.
> 
> The reason that many of these teams are not ranked higher [is] because they
> were beaten by other ACC teams.
> 
> }Any dispute that Pac10 isn't the best conference?
> 
> Is this a trick question?  OK, I steadfastly refuse to "dispute that
> Pac10 isn't the best conference". ;-)
> 
> -- 
> Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
>        "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
>          swords is no basis for a system of government!"
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Lies, D**n Lies, etc (Re: PSU is Overrated!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:26:00 GMT
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Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Oct15.142449.12238@fns-nc1.fns.com>, gcm@fns-nc1.fns.com (Grover McCoury) writes...
#P.S. - The game ending interception was by a guy named Shane Conlon. BTW,
#       didn't he get a job after school in the NFL?   ;-)

As nice a guy as Shane is, I should hope he didn't claim credit for the
Pete Giftopoulos interception that ended the game.  BTW, Shane Conlon
did have two interceptions in that game, however, one of which set up
the winning score for Penn State with about eight minutes to go in the 
game.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
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Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
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