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From: klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Recommendations
Keywords: Really a plea for quiet pipes
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:20:19 GMT
Distribution: rec


In Message <1992Apr15.170710.17383@nas.nasa.gov> ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov 
(Robert B. Ciotti) writes:

stuff about helmet visibility deleted...

>I find that a loud muffler is about the best way for the cagers to take note
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>of your existance.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Bob

Yeah right Bob,

They'll take note of you all right.  "There goes another one of those loud
fucking Motorcycles"  What we in the motorcycling community don't need is
more negative publicity.  One of the easiest ways to give non-motorcyclists
a negative perception is to subject them to a blast from a set of loud
pipes.  There are a lot of responsible bikers out there trying to enhance
the image of motorcycling.  The work they do isn't helped by folks who
like to see how loud they can make their bikes.  There is an interesting
editorial in the May '92 issue of Motorcyclist regarding loud pipes.
I'd suggest you read it.  "Loud pipes saves lives" is a neat slogan but
it's truth is open to a LOT of question.  I believe that loud pipes save lives
is little more than a feeble attempt to lend some semblence of respectability
to an action that is nothing more than affectation of ego on the part
of the person running those loud pipes.  "Look at me! Listen to me!  I'm
a badass biker and I want you to know it."  VROOOOOOMMMM, VROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM.

If you REALLY want cars to notice you (and in a positive, or at least
non-negative way), there are things you can do.  Install light modulators on
your bike, wear a Conspicuity vest.  It seems extremely counterproductive
to get cagers to notice you by pissing them off.

I expect a potfull of flames from the loud pipe crowd for this posting
and frankly, Scarlett my dear, I don't give a damn.  This is a pet peeve
of mine.  I love the sport of motorcycling and it pisses me off to see
any irresponsible asshole doing something to bring discredit to it.

As an aside, a week or so ago, I took my wife out for her first ride on
the new 'Wing.  One comment she made was that it was very nice to be able
to hear things like birds singing and so on, at 50-60 mph.

--
Ken Franklin 		AT&T Bell Labs			klf@druwa.att.com
AMA #553197		11900 North Pecos		'81 Virago (RLARA)
DoD #0126		Denver, CO 80234
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Timing Adjustments
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 19:43:59 GMT

OK, sorry. My now-obviously-wrong distrubutor remark comes from adjusting
the timing on cages, with and without points. I just made it up from what
I thought was going on, which is in line with most everything else on this
newsgroup, no? Nobody here would intentionally mislead someone, would we?:-) 

So, I point the light at the pully, and physically rotate
the distributor assembly until the right marks line up. If this does not 
change when the rotor contacts the distributor cap, what does it do? 
Adjusting points was a separate and pain-in-the-butt process of looking 
at the dwell on a meter, then yanking the distributor cap off and turning 
a little screw, then starting the engine and measuring again. So I figured
that the distributor contacts actually fired the plugs, provided that the
points were in the right position when the rotor got there and the coil
was charged. This is not flame bait, just an observation. 

May I please have an abridged version of the real story on engine ignition
systems?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu
                         ride it                 | Ontario Hydro Research
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From: don@menudo.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper)
Subject: Re: Extra DoD Lighter nets $60 for Museum
Reply-To: DHarper@uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper)
Organization: Academic Computing Services, University of Houston
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:41:11 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.2.703250604.arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
? The extra lighter I accidentally shipped to Gary Wasserman netted $60 in
? the auction.  I forwarded it to the Museum.
? 
? Thanks folks.
? 
? Arnie

That stupid 'F' key just jumped up an d made me do this...

I got my DoD Lighter!  I ran home from work just to get it...and it
looks real cool...all my friends want one now... :-)


Don
[

-- 
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.  -Simone Signoret
Don Harper, DHarper@uh.edu, Academic Consulting Services, University of Houston
			DoD#0520, '82 GS550LZ
From: pha50@seq1.keele.ac.uk (P.J. Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:49:51 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From article <773@shaman.wv.tek.com>, by davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise):
> Are you sure about the E?  Why doesn't my manual mention it?  I know that
> some units had an engine number that started with 'CX500E...', but these
> were just plain CX500s with a wierd serial number.

The CX500E looked a lot like the restyled CX650s. The tank moulded into
the side-pannels, squarer looking tappit covers, pro-link momshock
rear end, and circumferencial exit silencers.

> What the hell's a CX500A?

The CX500A is basically the same as a CX500 but with the revised can
chain tensioners (semi-auto). It has other minor distinguishing features
like a different shape radiator cowling, and a rectangular patter to the
plastic radiator grille, rather than hexagonal.
It still has the headlamp mounted indicators etc.

I had a CX500A, and I sold it to Miles who put a sidecar on it! Pitty he
can't read this :-)
-- 
Paul Mitchell (CMA#55(18) MAG#65715 DoD#0145)  | Department of Physics,
JANET:  p.j.mitchell@uk.ac.keele.seq1          | Keele University, Keele,
USENET: p.j.mitchell@seq1.keele.ac.uk          | Staffordshire, ST5 5BG, U.K.
BITNET: p.j.mitchell%seq1.keele.ac.uk@ukacrl   | (+44 or 0)782 621111 ext 7966
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:54:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Yamaha XT350 needs work...
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


*Ideally, we're hoping someone out there has a strong XT350
*engine available, or knows where we can get one.  We've
*made a first pass check of the local salvage yards and
*struck out.  Rumor has it that any XT350 engine from '86 on
*is compatible, and maybe even back a few years.  Anybody
*know for certain?

They haven't changed the engine since in came out in '85.
Any engine will drop in.  They may have made slight changes
(for smog and noise laws) to the pipe and carb (carb and a half).

Frank Ball   2LR-D             frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard                pyramid!hplabs!hpsad!frankb
1212 Valley House Drive        (707) 794-4168 work  (707) 538-3693 home
Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999     KC6WUG Seca 750 XT350 IT175 I'm the NRA.
From: pnovak@cbnewse.cb.att.com (paul.d.novak)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: headlight modulators
Keywords: q-switch
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:12:08 GMT
Organization: AT&T


I've been out of street motorcycling for about 10 years...

In the early 1980's, a company called Dotech sold a headlight
modulator called a Q-switch.  This electronic gizmo attached
to your headlight, and when the Q-switch was turned on (during
daylight hours), the headlight modulated quickly between
high and low beams.  Allegedly, this made a motorcycle
more visible to oncoming traffic.

I haven't seen a motorcycle with a headlight modulator (Q-switch
or other) for many years.  Does anyone know the fate of
headlight modulaters?  Are they still legal, and if so,
who manufactures them?

Paul Novak att!ihlpr!pnovak
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bmatthew@umbc5.umbc.edu (Bud Matthews)
Subject: Summit Point and Dynos
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:16:46 GMT


Went to the Summit Point races on 4/12 -- had intended to ride with
Mike Fennell's bunch, but chickened out due to weather in the early
a.m.  Of course, it turned out to be a nice day...  (Judging by how
some groups blew by my car on the way out, I wouldn't have kept up,
anyway, I'm afraid.)  Did see/hear netster Tiberio narrowly lose a
very close race in the Twins class.  I guess I'm just used to drag
racing and ovals where you can see the whole thing from start to
finish -- I found it annoying to never be along the part of the track
where the critical action took place.  Or maybe TV is the spoiler,
because multiple cameras let you be everywhere at once.

They had a dyno set up in the pits, and guys were putting bikes on
it to get a rear-wheel horsepower reading.  As I watched, it occurred
to me that I really don't know how a dyno works.  I have some ideas,
of course, but some of you surely know:  How do you get a HP reading
from that roller under the rear wheel?  And when it's not taken from the
rear wheel, then from where?  Crankshaft?  Does that require a 
completely different kind of dyno?


-- 
Bud Matthews				1990 Low Rider
Department of Sociology			HOG#0411931
University of MD, Baltimore County	AMA#571307
Standard disclaimers apply.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler)
Subject: Victoria in May.
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:43:16 GMT

Some of you have already seen this - my apologies.
This is the 'official' invitation for those of you 
not on the GPNG list (for whatever reason), here's 
in invitation to a more northerly gathering.

For the last weekend in May (May 30-31), I am proposing
a get-together in Victoria B.C.

I was thinking of a run out to Port Renfrew on the
Saturday (good roads, very pretty) followed by
dinner at Swan's Pub (a local brew pub with good
food, beer and clothed staff :-) ).

Let me know if you're interested and I'll start hunting
down inexpensive places to stay.

-- 
Chris Spindler 

    ________________________________________________________________
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 22:58:50 CDT
From: Ed Dowtort <U10119@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for 250-500 sport bike....
Distribution: na


>[ someone somewhere wants a cheap 250-500cc sport bike ]
>
>[ various people recommend various bikes, but the choice is limited ]
>
>There are plenty of Italian sub-500cc sport bikes too;
>recent issues of Motorcycle and Super Bike magazines
>reviewed a couple of very nice Italian 125cc sport bikes.
>(Cagiva and Aprilia I believe.)
> ^^^^^^
>As far as I know, none of these bikes are available in
>the U.S.  Pity.

i've read in may's cycle world that a bike by Cagiva + CZ will be
(should be) arriving in US by August.  it will be sold as CZ and it
is a 400cc four valve, six speed, single, with full fairing.  page 26.
it's also mentioned that they should also import 125cc's and 200cc's.
the 400cc should go for $3200 according to cycle world.

i haven't seen the original post, but hope this helps some...  (?)


-----------------------
Edward Dowtort                                           '80 KZ 250LTD (thumper
u10119@uicvm.uic.edu                                                  DoD #1690
                         university of illinois at chicago
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: psmith@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (paul.m.smith)
Subject: Re: How does a dyno work?
Organization: AT&T - Denver, CO
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:05:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.154329.15679@avalon.nwc.navy.mil> erik@archimedes.nwc.navy.mil (Erik van bronkhorst) writes:

>	Ok, first you get about 10 horses and some rope...

This doesn't have anything to do with dynoes, or motorcycles, for that
matter, but maybe some of you will find it interesting...

In one of the "Little House" books (I have kids, OK?), Laura Ingalls Wilder
gives an account of an amazing, time-saving new invention -- the threshing
machine.  The threshing machine was actually powered by a separate power
source, which was similar to the carnival pony rides, with a horse lashed
to a bar, walking in a circle, turning a transmission, with a driveshaft
lying on the ground connected to the threshing machine.  What I found
interesting was that this power source was called a "horsepower."  I could
guess that one with harnesses for 2 horses would have been a "two horsepower," 
etc.

OBmoto - a hunnert years ago who woulda thunk that some day, any squid with
a checkbook could swing a leg over 100+ ponies?
-- 

				Paul Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: DoD ACHIEVES $5,000 PLAQUE AT AMA HERITAGE MUSEUM
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 18:56:18 GMT

In article <ruskkINNn6n@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 10714@serval.net.wsu.edu, bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>
>>Say, what's the next level.  Anything special happen when we get to $10,000?
>
>They rename it the AMA DoD Heritage Museum, and add an exhibit called,
>"1001 DoD Products, a Retrospective View of Electronic Marketing."

So who's going to provide the AMA DoD Heritage Softtail?

You still looking for that shower, Diana?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  - "Worth the Obsession"
DoD #094        "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
From: root@devl3.UUCP (Super user)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Sticking clutch plate
Keywords: clutch
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:02:54 GMT
Organization: McKee Foods Corporation

Dear Sirs or Ma'ams;

I have a 1981 XS1100 yamaha.  Every time the bike sets for more than a
couple of hours, the clutch plate sticks.  When I start the bike with
the transmission in neutral, and try to engage first or second gear
they clash badly.  If I try to start the bike with the transmission
in gear, it causes the bike to lurch violently forward for a couple of
feet until the clutch plate comes unstuck.  Once the plate is loose the
first time, then it will stay that way as long as I am running.  But
when I stop for a while, it sticks again.

My question is, has anybody else had this problem?  If so, what did
you do to alleviate it?  If not, does anybody have any advice (other
than the usual smart-ass (:-) stuff that comes over the net) about how
I can eliminate the problem?  Thanking you in advance for your time
and concern regarding this matter, I remain gratefully yours;

=========================================================================
O	O \	Anything more than 2 wheels is a waste of good rubbers. O
O     - \|- >				Steven (flameproof) Foster	O
O     O    O						no dod #	O
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: R100GS Steering Instability
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:21:12 GMT

dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.163226.2076@HQ.Ileaf.COM> grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman) writes:

>>[G/S steering wobble]

>[How to adjust steering head bearings]

A question on the _other_ official DoD bike: My FJ1200 has a weird
little lockwasher with tangs about an inch long that fit into the slots
on both nuts. This requires that top triple clamp be pulled so that the
lockwasher can be removed. Then the steering head bearings can be
adjusted. 

Does this tab washer serve any real purpose, or is it just a product
liability measure? The steering head bearings aren't something that 
need adjusting all that often, so maybe I should just leave it, but it
does seem to needlessly complicate the job.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Tires scalloping.
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:32:06 GMT

It's not only poor tire design, I've had a Metzeler do it, but underinflation 
does help. It is due to the fact that on the front tire the force is always in
the same direction, so one side of the blocks gets worn before the other.
My RZ scallopped its last rear tire (opposite pattern, of course) due to all
of the fun I was having with it, by accelerating and braking hard (hard
braking loads front tire more). This rear tire had a slow leak for a while,
so it spent more time being underinflated than usual.


I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu
                         ride it                 | Ontario Hydro Research
From: gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Summary: Nice bike, really... now, how many can I put you down for?
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:34:09 GMT
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems - Atsugi Technical Centre - JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ale.japan.sun.com

In article <1992Apr6.124008.25336@axion.bt.co.uk> pyoung writes:
% 
% OMIGAWD, the Plastic Maggot is alive and well.
% 

   Shame on you Peter... "slug" yes, but "maggot"?!?

% 
% Can't imagine why anyone would ride one for fun though.
%

   They're a better knee-warmer than a Bee-Em.

   The front  suspension was  based on  a sound  (but previously  untried)
   design involving cup-cakes and warm syrup.

   Hunda forgot the wheels during the design stage and the bike went  into
   production  using  pieces  of  odd  steel  welded  together  (sometimes
   inside-out) with "comstar" stamped on them (to try to fool people  into
   thinking they were a  genuine product). The  guys making the bike  also
   put the tank on  back-to-front, but no-one  noticed until they  dragged
   the blue-prints out to start 650 production.

   Handa also thought that the bike was horrendously OVER-powered for  the
   Japanese market  and  started  sleeving  the  cylinders  to  bring  the
   capacity down to "a more managable" 400cc for the domestic model.

   The designer's final horrible joke was to include an "interference fit"
   ceramic washer as a seal in  the water-pump.  Instructions for  fitting
   this seal were something like:-

	1 - Bake motorcycle in -hot- oven until tender.

	2 - Remove from oven. Place seal on cover and hit (seal) until
	    it breaks.

	3 - Buy new seal and repeat.

   Henda also used this machine as a test bed for their new line of  world
   renowned cam chains  and tensioners.   Design flaws found  on the  good
   ole' CX were included in all new models for the following decade.

   Despite all the above (or maybe because  of it...  you need to have  at
   least a -small- streak  of masochism to be  a motorcyclist), I  -loved-
   that bike.   I  remember lusting  after  it (and  Debbie in  the  front
   office)  from  those  early,  rave   reports  about  its  handling   in
   Motorsickle News. Ah, youth!

-- 
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 |   John Little - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  |  Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan  |
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"Hi-ho Silver! Here comes the Lone Ranger. He's ridin' on down, to rescue you."
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: i finally went and did it.
Keywords: not again
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:29:27 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Apr10.080232.1723@nic.csu.net> rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker) writes:
>i finally got rid of that piece of shit BMW.  man, what a hunk of
>trash.  slow as shit and required constant maintenence all the time.
>went out and got me a HOG, so dont go fucking with me anymore, cause
>i'll run yer but inta the ground.
>
>-- 
>- bob pasker

geezzz bob, if i didn't know better, i'd say you were suffering from a
classic case of pms.  hey, fella why not lay off the caffine for a while.
would someone local throw bob some chocolate.
                                                   :-)
ride free,

bill
________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu  johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125
FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

True humor has beneath it the understanding that we are all
in this together.  Hugh Prather
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12845 rec.bicycles:9157
From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Greg LeMond on Summer Olympics Team USA?
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:06:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: IntelliGenetics, Inc., Mountain View, California USA

Let's see if I can relate this subject to both of the newsgroups to
which it has been directed....

Well, a friend of mine is a motorcycle mechanic and a bicycle
mechanic.  I don't know what kind of bicycle he rides.  He rides a BMW
twin motorcycle and for a while, he worked at Cal BMW motorcycle shop
in Mountain View.  Now get this!  This same friend just got a job
working for the US Olympic Bicycle team as a bicycle tuner!

It's true.

--steve

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Meth Swervin)
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Organization: Me, Myself and I
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:22:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.174603.19971@bwdls61.bnr.ca>, space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:

> Japanese bikes are called "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta
> burners", so what do we call American bikes (Harleys)?

What happened to the names "rice rocket" and "bullet bike"?  Back in
the 70's we called Japanese bikes "rice rockets" and the early sport
bikes "bullet bikes".  Did "rice rocket" evolve into "rice burner"
because the latter is less positive sounding than the former?

Good names for a Harley include "Hog", "Hawg", "Scooter", "Sled" and
"Boulevard Blaster."

- Roid

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