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From: cseb@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de (Christian Sebeke)
Subject: 4 Sale: Guitar Amp (Germany)
Reply-To: cseb@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Univ. Hannover, LFI, Abt. Design&Test
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:14:11 GMT


            ENGL 850 Stereo Guitar Rack Head for sale!

Features:

- All Tubes, 18 (!) in all, some are selected types.

- 3 channel preamp section (clean/crunch/lead). A very good clean
  sound and an incredible lead make this amp versatile for nearly any
  music style. The crunch option raises the sensitivity of the clean
  section to make it overdriveable.

- Internal Reverb. You may also put a stereo effects processor between
  preamp and poweramp via the preamp-out and right/left-in jacks.

- 2 x 35 watt power amp section, each channel with precence, volume and
  standby. 4 jacks for 8 or 16 Ohm speakers. (e.g. Marshall 1936 in
  stereo mode)

- Dimension: 2 rack spaces, that's what I would call "compact".

- excellent condition, has been in a rack always.

You can get it new at DM 1895,- from Musik Prodiktiv or from me at DM
1400,- incl. shipping in germany. I want to reorganise my rack with
Engl gear, so you should not assume that I sell this because of a bad
sound.


cs

---
my opinion.
Christian Sebeke, Univ. Hannover/LFI, Schneiderberg 32, D-3000 Hannover 1                             Tel: +49 511 762 5035                    sebeke@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de

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From: hsu22@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: MIDI: switching amp channels and rack patches simultaneously??
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:18:58 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I just started going rack and had a couple of questions:

What causes MIDI change delay?  Like when I select a patch with a
footcontroller and it takes a split second to get to the new patch.  I 
guess that's just the design of the rack (Quadraverb), but I'd like a
more technical explanation of WHY?

Also, I just read in the new GFTPM mag that the Rockman MIDI Octopus is
the key to getting MIDI control over a channel switching amp.  I assume
what the guy meant was that a single MIDI controller, like  a footswitch,
can simultaneously change channels and patches with a single tap???  
Anyone have experience with the MIDI octopus or similar devices/solutions?
 Thanks.
From: cudex@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr K R Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Using Acoustic Strings on an electric?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:55:19 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <18NOV199208353258@rosie.uh.edu> math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>I am having trouble finding large guage strings for my electric, and
>have always liked the way bronze acoustic strings held up over time. Are
>bronze strings not used on electric guitars because they are poor
>inductors (???) for creating a current in the pick-up's magnetic field?
> Or does anybody use bronze acoustic strings on their electric?
> What about some other acoustic strings?
>
>P.S. I don't think I'll mind the wound G (3rd string)...
>
The pickup on the guitar produces an output when the field produced by its
internal magnets is disturbed.  The steel core of the strings is the main
source of this disturbance due to its permeability.  The winding does not
contribute to a great extent whether its bronze or another alloy.  Even
"stainless" windings (the tape wound ones we used to get which contain
chromium) make little contribution.  If the winding did contribute, think
of the inbalance in output between the two E strings which would result.
The main effect of the winding is to pad the string "mass per unit length" to
allow correct tuning characteristics and balance the tensions. On an acoustic
or semi-acoustic it will colour the sounds produced considerably by
interacting with the resonances of the guitar, but solid
electric instruments are intended to be acoustically "dead" in order to
optimise the "sustain" and unless the winding damps the string badly it won't
affect the output (the tape wound ones were the worst for this).
The main difference comes down to the unwound G string which is easier to bend
smoothly and resists surface wear better than a wound.
The answer is "suck it and see" for a given make and style of string.
My first electric was a cheap Harmony "Stratotone" picked up in Montreal about
1955, and if I laid the string I've used end to end ,etc.

Kev
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince)
Subject: Re: PAUL SIMON: Homeward Bound (wanted)
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:14:52 GMT

rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rahul G. Patwari) writes:

>Does anyone have chords or tab for Homeward Bound by Paul Simon and Garfunkel?  

Poor old Arty.
--


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Subject: Peavey Triumph=Problems!
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:07:36 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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From: hendersd@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Jeremy
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:12:23 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

If anyone is into Pearl Jam, Guitar for the Practicing Musician has 
just tab "Jeremy".  In this issue is also a great article about 
Lollapollza, if that's how you spell it.  The only group that the 
don't talk about is Ice-cube or who ever that rapper was.
From: napier@cs.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: was fret positions, now decimal places
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:51:08 GMT
Organization: AMES Dept., UC San Diego


It seems to me the real answer to how accurate fret placement needs to be is
how discerning the human ear is. A slightly misplaced fret will result in
a different string length than expected when the string is fretted and thus
a different frequency will result. But just how much of a frequency change
is necessary for the human ear to pick up the change in pitch? My guess is
that the margin for error is pretty large compared to some of the tolerances
I've seen mentioned in this thread. If this were not true it would be impossible
for a handmade instrument to be tonally accurate given the accuracy of the
tools used. And of course handmade instruments are tonally every bit as accurate
as those built with modern machinery.

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Jim Napier
Systems Administration
Applied Mechanics & Engineering Sciences Dept.
UC San Diego
(619)534-5414
napier@ames.ucsd.edu

"Shut up before I have to tell you to shut up."
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From: bobbyr@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Bobby Richardson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Adama's Info
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:37:38 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Hi! I am a novice guitar player. Recently, I just got to know about
the various kinds of guitars. Some one told me that one of the expensive
but real good guitars is Adama made by Kaman Co. I would like here any comments 
about this guitar. Your helpful comments are appreciated. Once again thank you.

Bobby W. H. Richardson   Internet : bobbyr@csugrad.cs.vt.edu 
                         Phone    : 703 - 232 - 1224
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Subject: Re: Built your own amp?
Originator: npstewar@c00725-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:58:52 GMT


I've only played one Marshall (A Silver jubilee 50 watt) at home, and the stores
don't take to kindly to exploring the 'tonality' that different power tubes
can provide.  What I have read - try the Groove Tubes Tube Amp Book III (lotsa
drool pictures too!)  For a period (sometime late seventies? to mid-late eight-
ies the American distributor for Marshalls replaced the EL-34 power tubes with
6550's in order to get through the warranty period without the tubes wearing out.
I believe Korg now distributes the USA Marshalls, and they now stock (at least
some of them do - the JMP 45 reiss has 6L6's I believe, but it's a reissue)
EL-34's again.

As far as differences, I've heard that 6550's don't break up very much, and
then only at full output.  EL-34's begin breaking up around 5-6 on the volume
on some Marshalls.  The 6550 also tends to hold its bandwidth well when it does
go into distortion, with a brighter sound, most of what you hear on a 6550
Marshall is preamp crunch though.  EL-34's begin losing their top end progress-
ively as distortion increases, warming the amp up a bit.  You can hear a lot of
this in what was popular through these time periods.

npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu
Nathan Stewart
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Effects questions
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:58:45 GMT

In article <1ejcebINNmcp@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> edison@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Thomas Matthew Callen) writes:
>This may seem like a strange question but I need to ask it nonetheless.
>I have had an electric guitar for about three years now and I am not
>satisfied with my current set-up.  Right now I have a Peavey Patriot
>guitar and a small Gorilla practice amp (with built in distortion).
>I would like to buy some guitar effect pedals but I don't know which
>ones I should get, since I don't know what they do.  I would like to get
>some effects that will allow me to play a considerable wide range of
>music (rock, heavy metal, pop, etc...)  Are there any suggestions?
>Anything to stay away from?  Replies will be greatly appreciated, either
>by e-mail or posting.  Thanks...
>
>
>--
My vote for the most all-round useful floor box add-on is a
compressor. Although not that noticeable in themselves, they make
the behaviour of many other things (including the guitar itself, and
the amp, not to mention other effects boxes) MUCH more predictable.
Depending on your preferred style, the next most popular device
would probably be some type of chorus unit.  Although your amp has a
built-in capability for distortion, unfortunately, chorus sounds
miserable when followed by distortion anddistortion sounds terrific
when followed by chorus (although I'm open to experiments).
Consequently, unless your amp has an effects loop AFTER the
distortion where you could plug in the chorus, I'd consider doing my
distorting with some floor box in between the compressor and chorus.
See the recent "Distortion" issue of Guitar Player for a cogent
discussion of the topic.  Finally, before we rack up too big a bill,
a switchable EQ is handy for getting different voicings out of your
guitar, amp and distortion.  Most people will sticktheir EQ boxes
after the distortion, but there is much tobe gained (no pun
intended) by sticking it ahead of the distortion box.  There you
have it, compressor, distortion, EQ, and chorus/flanger.  You might
notice that these are precisely what Boss and Korg have put in their
everything-in-one floor boxes.

Mark Hammer

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: lee@Gwinnett.COM (Lee Reese)
Subject: Re: String Guages [what to use?]
Organization: Gwinnett Computer Services, Atlanta(Duluth), GA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:31:33 GMT

In article <Lerxst.0p0a@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca> Lerxst@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Lerxst) writes:
>I personally use .09s.  I find them very comfortable to play.  I have 10s
>on my acoustic and I sometimes wish that there were .09s for them, although
>I'd imagin it would be way too thin.
>
>Otherwise I've had no problems.  On my Strat is fine, although on my Gibson
>ES-345 clone the high strings tend to break rather often.  Good thing they
>are not expensive to replace!! :-)
>
>Alex Lifeson from Rush and I believe David Gilmour from Pink Floyd use .09s
>as well.  I don't know how Stevie Ray Vaughan ever could play the 13s.  It
>would be like playing on electrical cable! :-)
>
>Anyway, I'd imagin that it really boils down to personal preference, I like
>to use them.  Try it out and see the difference.
>
>Later...
>
>_don

I have .012's on my Strat right now, but earlier this year I was using
.009's.  I have nothing against the .009's, but .012's make a lot of 
difference.  They have much better tone and I like the way the third
string sounds compared to  the unwound third on the .009's.

As far as string bending goes, I can bend the .012's as well as the 
.009's.  It just takes time to get used to the strings.

Lee
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bbs.cement@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Christopher Clement)
Subject: Re: Vibrato Effect BOX????
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:19:31 GMT

6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones) writes:

> i've never seen one?? can it be built? I am sure .. but are they
> avaliable????? hehe
> 
> -- 
> Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622 
> SysAdmin <-> Super Dimension Fortress PAU 
> 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org - "Put in a quarter and play road rally." - Descendents


Yes, they do exsits cuz I got one. It's an old Marlboro QSB-II(quadra 
sound blender). It's way cool, cheesey spring reverb, groovy tremelo and 
vibrato. I got it for about $40 bucks, try looking in pawnshop etc.

--
Christopher Clement (bbs.cement@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: fbegin@bnr.ca (Francois Begin)
Subject: Re: Bridge adjustment #2
Organization: bnr
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:27:59 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.mucis.makers.guitar
From: walmsley@qucis.queensu.ca (Chris Walmsley)
Subject: Les Paul Deluxe Value?
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:03:17 GMT


A friend has a Gibson Les Paul Deluxe (about 1972), that I'm
interested in buying.  It's in reasonable condition.  It has the 
following modifications:

1)  The bridge pickup has been changed from the soap bar (mini humbucker)
    to a standard humbucker.
2)  The machine heads have been replaced with some nice (but not
    original) schaler ones.
3)  The back side of the body has a section where someone's belt
    buckle has worn the varnish off, and someone else has tried
    to hand varnish the damage.

Other that the above, the guitar is in fine condition.  
I'd be very interested finding out what people think it's
worth, or if anybody has any comments on it.

+======================+---------------------------------------------+
[ Christopher Walmsley | Internet: walmsley@qucis.queensu.ca         ]
[ Queen's University   | Bitnet:   walmslec@qucdn                    ]
[ Kingston, Ontario    | Internet: Christopher.Walmsley@QueensU.CA   ]
[ Canada               | *This must be where pies go when they die!* ]
+====================================================================+
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mph@pssparc2.mitek.com (Mike Hare)
Subject: Re: Effect Ordering and Effect Loops
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:47:52 GMT


>In article <Bxu0w7.8oF@cup.hp.com> balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon) writes:
>>
>>	I would like to query some of you who use effect loops and
>>	effects in general. (ie. most of us) Some people like their 
>>	effects in a definite order, others could care less. 
>>

When I was doing this sort of thing, I had many differnt
types of effects pedals (I think this was much more fun
to experiment with than the canned synth...)  But the number
of them made it difficult to pick one chain, so I built a 
patch bay so I could change the ordering for different
effects.  You do get a significant difference in, for example:

Distortion -> Wah-Wah

or 

Wah-Wah -> Distortion

Neither is better (though I used the former more often)
They are just different..

I have found the most pre-dominate effect should be last in chain..

In the above example, the first will have a much greater Wah-Wah sopund
the second will sound sort-a like a phase shift as opposed to a Wah-Wah.

I'm pre-Effects Loops, so I can't speak of those..
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mongeau@NMC.ED.RAY.COM (Michael Mongeau)
Subject: Re: Too late to learn?
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:42:34 GMT

>
>In a previous article, miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) says:
>
> ...deleted 
>Can anyone "push me>over the edge" here?  I'm afraid... help!!!  ;)
>
>  Jeff
>

Go for it !  I started taking lessons for the first time about
2 years ago when I was 31 and I wish I had started earlier.  I've
learned more in 2 years than in all the years I played previously
(about 6-7 years).   I started to learn how to sight-read but lost
patience and decided to concentrate on technique and theory.
There is so much tab available now it is not essential to know
how to sight read, but you should have a cursory knowledge of
standard music notation, just to understand key signatures, time
values, etc.   Lessons are great for getting fresh ideas and 
new techniques.   Just make sure you find a teacher who shares
your musical interests.  

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Mike Mongeau                        Raytheon Equipment Division
   mongeau@tif162.ed.ray.com                          Marlboro, MA
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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From: edison@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Thomas Matthew Callen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Effects questions
Date: 20 Nov 1992 12:57:15 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

This may seem like a strange question but I need to ask it nonetheless.
I have had an electric guitar for about three years now and I am not 
satisfied with my current set-up.  Right now I have a Peavey Patriot
guitar and a small Gorilla practice amp (with built in distortion).
I would like to buy some guitar effect pedals but I don't know which
ones I should get, since I don't know what they do.  I would like to get
some effects that will allow me to play a considerable wide range of
music (rock, heavy metal, pop, etc...)  Are there any suggestions?
Anything to stay away from?  Replies will be greatly appreciated, either
by e-mail or posting.  Thanks...


-- 
  Tom Callen                            "It is better to have wise people 
  EDISON@matt.ksu.ksu.edu                reprimand you than to have stupid
  Kansas State University                people sing your praises."  
                                                      --  ECCLESIASTES 7:5
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:17:04 EST
From: <DWK108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Must Sell!!!!!

I have for sale a Boss ME-5 pedalboard. It is one year old and hardly used it h
as compression,sustain, overdrive,distortion,chorus,delay,reverb,flange, and EQ
The reason I am selling this is because I need money! The unit works perfectly
I bought it for $425 and am willing to sell it for $200!!! If you are intereste
d please call 814-861-8762.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kamartin@quads.uchicago.edu (kai anthony martin)
Subject: When's Satriani coming to Chicago?
Reply-To: kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:55:33 GMT

Hello out there in guitar land,

	Since I'm hearing so much about Joe Satriani's tour for his latest
album, I'm wondering when he's coming to the Chicago area.  Anyone out there
have this info?  Thanks in advance.


		-Kai Martin (kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu)


-- 

===============================================================================
                         Kai A. Martin, Esquire
            Undergraduate student, Mathematics & Computer Science
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: plyall@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Pete Lyall)
Subject: Re: What does Mark Knopfler use?
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:08:15 GMT

In article <ykjqpy#@dixie.com> karl@dixie.com (Karl Klingman) writes:
>uh311ae@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Henrik Klagges) writes:
>
>>chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus) writes:
>>>Strats, a Tele (used on "Walk Of Life"), a Les Paul ("Money For Nothing"),
>>>a head and bodyless guitar (couldn't ID the make from the lawn section :-( )
>
>>It's a Steinberger.
>
>What about the rest.  What effects and amplifiers does he use to create
>that unique sound?

Well, on Money For Nothing, I'm able to get a pretty fair
approximation on my strats (both use SD Hot Rails in the bridge
pickup slot) by turning the tone control all the way down,
using a rich distortion, and feeding it through a flanger setup for
slow, deep flange, with a lot of feedback. FWIW, I use a Quadraverb,
and the patch I use has been posted with the banks I've released
(called FatCity Flange).

Pete Lyall

-- 
Pete Lyall [USWest]        Compuserve: 76703,4230   Internet: plyall@uswest.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm glad I had to wait a while, A little bit too juvenile,     |Sweet Potato Pie
I needed to refine my style, A silk suit and a crocodile smile!| James Taylor
From: bobski@pasadena-dc.bofa.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: How 2 tell if "Fender" is real...?
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:48:26 PDT
Organization: Bank America Systems Engineering, Pasadena, CA


I have a question........??? I was given a left-handed strat a few years ago
by a SO.....The guy that sold her the guitar claimed it was a USA strat.  How
can I confirm this...unfortunatley, he replaced the neck with a right-handed 
aftermarket that he had set up with a floyd-rose a schaller tuning keys.

At this time, the reversed neck was considered "in" because of groups like
Bon Jovi, etc. I hate the way it makes the guitar look, but this guitar has 
an outstanding sound....

I guess my question is, how can I even tell if this this is an original 
Fender...? It's not a big deal, it would just be nice to know.  The only 
Fender emblems on the guitar is the metal plate the holds the neck to the
body (An item easliy installed).  If I take off the pick guard, will the 
pots have any info on them....?????

                   ...............Bob Ski.....................
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tremolo system -- HELP !!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:02:41 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Nov21.141003.4282@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> afcondon@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Andrew Condon) writes:
>In <1992Nov19.204007.21919@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach) writes:
>[interesting tremolo-tuning discussion deleted]
>
>All this talk of spring-based tremolo systems, plus a hankering for a new
>guitar which has one, leads me to ask: Whatever happened to the Washburn 
>Wonderbar trem system? I always thought the torsion bar was a good attack on 
>the tuning problem, but no-one ever seemed to use one (except Robbie Robertson, and the guy in the Durutti Column). 
>
>What was the fatal flaw? Or was it a marketing failure? 
>
>--
>Andrew

IMHO the Wonderbar was far too heavy of a contraption to mount onto the top
of the guitar and it's range of pitch bending didn't compete with Floyd Rose
units and those were two of the biggest reasons for its demise.
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
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