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From:         Margaret Bailey <VYBP0002@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Chaos on shelves?
              18 Nov 1992 12:16:56 EDT from <RJT@gml.lib.uwm.edu>

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If any person has any doubts about whether or not classification and
subject headings are important, then they should spend some time working
with materials that are shelved by accession number, as I have.  The
*only* access to these materials was by subject or key word searching on
an OPAC. I am absolutly certain that most of the information in this material
was lost because it did not fit into the descriptors assigned by the cataloger,
 and there was no opportunity to find it by browsing.

Any system that is chosen should be used conscientiously.  If you automate a
chaotic organization, all you have is automated chaos.  "Garbage in, garbage
out"

Margaret Bailey, User Education
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, Texas
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From:         ES 1 <IZZYSM1@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: RE: lesbian/gay librarians

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Bravo.  Well said.



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> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Yes, the profession has a responsibility to respond to these issues.
>
>         Actually, it does not. The library profession needs to address
> library issues, which are the areas of our competence. We can get too
> caught up in social causes, political fights, religious issues and other
> non-library tussels that distract, divide and can destroy our professional
> organizations.
>         Anyone who wants to punish the voters of a particular state because
> they don't like how the democratic process works can stay home. To ask a
> professional organization to boycott because of a political disagreement
> is something else. Organizations should not have opinions (IMHO) outside
> of their area of intent. thus libraries may have groups that meet together to
> form opinions on library matters, but they should not branch away from
> the basic purposes of their organization.
>         These contstant arguments over gay/lesbian, Israel/Arab, Democrat/Repu
bl
> ican
> are dividing our organizations. The misuse of our organiaztions for
> ulterior political/social causes is destructive, and should be stopped.
>         No, I don't agree that we (i.e., the library organizations) should
> reply or have a responsibility to reply to these issues.
>         Naturally, these opinions are my own, and do not reflect the
> opinions of any library, government or social organizations.
> lee hadden
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Subject:      LIBRES E-Journal Call for Papers

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LIBRES: Library and Information Science Research Electronic Conference
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etc. remain the property of the author and may be re-published elsewhere.

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and information science related events and subjects.
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From:         LIBLEE@EKU.BITNET
Subject:      Help with Citation

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A colleague has asked me to seek your help in filling out the
blanks of a citation.  We need the publisher's name and place for
the following:
        Actes du VIe Congres International des Sciences
        Phonetiques, 1967.

Apparently they are conference proceedings.  We have had NO
luck with OCLC.

Thank-you in advance.

Catherine A. Lee
Eastern Kentucky University
Richmond, KY  40475
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From:         Susan Lyon <hslunc@med.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Sports bottles

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We generally ask that all containers be left outside the library or at the
circulation desk.  There are just too many inconsistencies to make
exceptions for bottles which are covered, and supposed to be uncovered,
whe we ask that coffee cups, drink cans and the like be left outside.
People are willing to comply--although I do see more and more of these
sports bottles coming in, and I'm not sure where it's leading us....

susan Lyon
Health Sciences Library
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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Subject:      DttP Editorship

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From: ZMIXTER@LUCCPUA.BITNET (Jan Mixter ZMIXTER@LUCCPUA)
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Subject: Re: Teamwork Approach at Reference Center
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:44:41 GMT
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please summarize your replies on Reference Scheduling for all
Thanks!
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From:         "Alan Johns (803) 792-5160" <JOHNSA@CITADEL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Msc or mls?

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I and my colleagues who graduated from the University of Tennessee
GSLIS have the MSLS (Master of Science in Library Science) degree.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:16:30 EDT
From:         WINTER@camad1.Camosun.BC.CA
Subject:      Re: Chaos on shelves?

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>        Are our library shelves going to seed while we diddle away
>contentedly on our OPACs? or am I a control freak addressing a timeless
>library problem, the need to place materials with diverse content in a
>single location? What do you think?

I have never had the faith in LC that you do.  I was weaned,
librarily speaking, on Dewey which is logical and does allow
browsing of the shelves.  LC as a shelf list system has never
provided that capacity in my eyes.  I think you have just
discovered a fundamental flaw of the system.  Also as one who
briefly catalogued I know that cataloguing is not the science it
appears from the outside.  The same cataloguer given the same
item at two different times will probably classify it in
different places each time.  As a reference librarian I dislike
the lack of logic and browsability of LC but I have learned to
live with it and diddle on my OPAC.
Catherine Winter
winter@camosun.bc.ca
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:54:24 EDT
From:         "jo bell whitlatch" <BELLWHIT@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      new building planning

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I have two questions: (1) I would like to know which academic libraries
are in the early planning stages for a new building or new building
addition (to be built 5 or more years from now).  For those that are
in the early planning stages, could you send me (Bellwhit@SJSUVM1) your
Email address?  I would like to ask you some more detailed questions
about how you are planning your research and information service points
in the library of the future.  (2) Does anyone know if there is a special
listserv which deals primarily with planning new buildings?

In advance, thanks to anyone who can help supply the information.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:59:53 EDT
From:         Lonnie Lawson <LAWSON@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Teamwork Approach at Reference Center

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     Some colleagues and I are in the process of devising a plan to staff
the Reference Center at Cental Missouri State University with specific "work
teams," rather than use the exiting schedule.  We are interested in learning
if other academic institutions currently use a "team approach" to staffing
the Reference Center.
     We are interested in answers to the following questions:
     1.  Who makes up the reference center schedule at your library?
     2.  Is someone designated to supervise/manage the reference center, and if
         so, is that person at the reference center enough to supervise/manage
         the staff?  If not, is there always a person "in charge" of operations
         at the reference center at all times?
     3.  Is there a problem with staff members, who are scheduled to be at the
         reference center, finding ways to be at other places (committee
         meetings, etc.) at the same time?
         If so, what do you do to make sure that the reference center is
         staffed?
     4.  Do you evaluate reference service?  If so, how?
     5.  How do staff members provide "continuity" of reference service
         throughout the day?  (Existing problems, popular topics in demand,
         particular assignments assigned to groups of students, etc.)
     6.  Do you have time limits for answering a specific question?
         If so, how long?
     7.  Do your staff members experience "burnout" from working at the
         reference center?  Does this occur because of the amount of hours
         scheduled at the reference center?
      This request may not be appropriate to be answered through the List, so
if you would prefer to answer directly to me, feel free to do so.
      Any other information offered on this subject would be welcome.
      Thanx.

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From:         Najwa Hanel <NHANEL%USCVM.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: Hats
              13 Nov 1992 19:58:15 EDT from
              <SCHULZ%wittenberg.edu@Kentvm.Kent.edu>

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I am sorry to see yet another issue being discussed which should not
bear any weight on our services to our patrons.  If a student, staff,
or whoever does her/his work efficiently and provides the services which
are required during their working hours, what they wear ,as long as it
decent, should not be of enough concern to warrant its discussion here.
I believe that much more important issues should occupy our time & sapce.
Najwa Hanel
USC Science & Engr. Library
From: THOMPSNTO@BAYLOR.BITNET (toni Thompson)
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Subject: Microfiche Corporate Reports
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:45:02 GMT
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This message is being cross-posted to LIBREF-L and BUSLIB-L.

Our reference department currently receives Disclosure Company's microfiche
corporate annual reports, 10K reports, and quarterly reports for Fortune
500 companies and about 25 other public companies that are popular among
our business students.  We learned recently, however, of Information Access
Company's microfiche set, Corporate Profile Resources [CPR].  We understand
that this set contains not only annual and SEC 10K reports for 2500 public
companies, but also investment analysts' reports (taken from the Investext
CD-ROM database, which we already have), company newsletters, benefits
pamphlets, and recruiting brochures.  A subscription to CPR is $1500
compared to the approximately $1800 that we paid this year for reports of
525 companies with the Disclosure subscription.  Our reference staff is
interested in knowing about others' experiences with the CPR set from
Information Access.  How does the collection compare with other microfiche
corporate report sets you have used?  Please address factors such as
timeliness for receiving reports, quality of filming, arrangement of the
set (numbered or alphabetical by company name?), usefulness of indexing, total
number of companies covered, and any other details that may have weighted your
decision to receive corporate reports in fiche.

Please send responses directly to me, and I will summarize them for the
list.  Thank you for your help!

Toni M. Thompson                       INTERNET: thompsnto@baylor.edu
Reference Department                   BITNET:   thompsnto@baylor.bitnet
Jesse H. Jones Library                 PHONE:    (817) 755-2349
P.O. Box 97146                         FAX:      (817) 752-5332
Baylor University
Waco, TX  76798-7146
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:03:09 EDT
From:         "Axford, Mary A." <ma14@prism.gatech.edu>
Subject:      Re: lesbian/gay librarians
              "radasteve%UBE.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu" at Nov 20, 92 11:11 am

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        It is heartening to see the responses that ALA should
make responses to Amendment 2 in Colorado.  While it is too
late to move the midwinter meeting, there are many other ways
of expressing displeasure, and I understand the Gay and
Lesbian Task force of the Social Responsibilities Roundtable
is hard at work on options.
        In my opinion, infringements on the rights of one
group affect all by setting a precedent reducing freedom.
Thus it is an issue that affects all, especially as it seems
likely that similar amendment drives will be organized in
other states.
        As a bisexual librarian, I'd like to ask that
bisexuals be remembered and mentioned in the discussion, as
the amendment in Colorado did specifically mention gays,
lesbians, and bisexuals.  GLB is almost as easy to type as
g/l.  8-).

Mary A. Axford
From: strickle@charon.usc.edu (David Strickler)
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Subject: Re: Colorado's gay rights vote
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:18:52 -0800
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Orlando,  Many thanks for your summary from inside Colorado.  I think it's important that we be kept up to date , and appreciate you doing so.

Dave Strickler
University of Southern California

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Subject: Computer "Card Catalog" needed for Small Research Library
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:30:02 GMT
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center

Greetings All,

	The research group in which I work has a small technical library
of a (very) few thousand volumes.  We'd like to make our holdings accessible
to others off-site, and be able to do standard things like subject/author/
title searches, etc... via computer.

	My question is this: do there exist reasonable "card catalog"
programs in the public domain, or must one purchase such a system?  
Any hints as to titles of public domain software, if it exists, or
ftp locations would be greatly appreciated.

				Thanks! 
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Subject:      text source for the
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The full text of the NAFTA has been made available to us by the Canadian
government on a 720K 3.5" floppy.  The text is in a compressed format.
We were told that a paper version of the text will be forthcoming, but
were not told "when".  because of equipment shortages, we are printing
the text, binding it and making it available as we would any print copy.

Bernard Katz, Head of Library Academic Support
              U of Guelph Library
              Guelph, Ontario
bkatz@cosy.uoguelph.ca
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From:         "Barb Farah,603-862-4168" <B_FARAH@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: reference desk

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*The Reference Librarian no 25/26 ed by Bill Katz and Charles Bunge
has a large vol devoted to Rothstein.  Some excellent background as well
as discussion which focuses on "re-thinking" reference.  Barb Farah
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