HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Alarm Surprize! (was Big mac's and students)
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:46:28 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

In article <w+jprgb@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>
> (*) Erasure is yet another one of those pasty-faced-English-boys bands
> which features two models and an impressive array of computer equipment.
> Personally, I think they sound like a blatant rip-off of Yaz/Yazoo,
> except that they suck. !Al could probably go into more depth on this;
> they're more his type of, um, music.

Puh-leeeze, I resent that remark. I really have very little time indeed for
Erasure (Erasure records owned - 0). The music itself doesn't annoy me
particularly (albeit being rather too blatantly commercial trendy dance)
but vocalist Andy Bell is gifted with a voice that I consider one of the
most instantly irritating in the history of modern music.

Sound like a rip-off of Yaz/Yazoo? History lesson time...

1980 or thereabouts. Four piece band formed in Basildon called Depeche Mode
- the original pasty-faced-English-boys. The group's main songwriter is one
Vince Clarke. After the first album Clarke leaves, the rest of the group
get depressed and hence become very popular.

Clarke starts a new duo, with an economy size woman called Alison "Alf"
Moyet. The duo's called Yazoo, except in the USA where the name is changed
to Yaz to prevent confusion with the US-based Yazoo blues label.

Yazoo splits after two albums and, after a brief sojourn with Feargal
Sharkey (ex-Undertones) as The Assembly, Vince Clarke forms a new duo with
Andy Bell. This duo is called Erasure. So the fact that they sound exactly
the same isn't a huge coincidence, especially when you consider that Bell
was purportedly chosen for his vocal resemblance to Moyet (i.e. Clarke
replaced a woman who sounded like a man with a man who sounded like a
woman) and that both Moyet and Bell were just vocal tinsel on Clarke's
music.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
      "Brothers, sisters, we don't need this fascist sheepdog thang"
From: Blair.Haworth@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Blair Haworth)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Usual Trivia
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:49:59 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Oct8.224927.25821@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:
(i.e., Dan Sorenson sez):
>	I'd *love* to put that on my truck, along with a rifle rack,
>light bar with swivel-mounted Browning .50, and one of those snow-plow
>blades on the front.  Then, head to Berkely.  The look on the faces
>of the deranged left-wing loonies when the Hickmobile comes rumbling
>down the street (for full effect, it should be a diesel with the
>pump turned up to maximum for that smoke screen ability) should be
>worth many hours of fond reminiscing. 

This reminds me of a !peeve that occurred during my brief incarceration at
Harvard.  My wife and I were wandering through Harvard Square, dodging
panhandlers, bitching about the onset of winter, and generally being
displaced Southerners, when what to our wondering eyes should appear but a
car cruising up Mass. Ave. with about an eight-point buck strapped to the
top.  The locals were, of course, put out, but for us it was like seeing
the flag of your country in a foreign land.  The car was a Volvo, which at
the time I thought spoiled the effect, but on reflection, it was probably
better for freaking the autochthons.  As P.J. O'Rourke pointed out, every
horror story has to have a touch of the familiar to be succesful: "it has
to be _Mom_ eating snakes in the rec room."

Sorry to disillusion you, but:
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Peeve: Broderbund. So they make this *wonderful* program called Kidpix. My
       4.5 year old boy loves it. So do I. But what's the peeve? Well,
       they sent us their latest blurb, advertising Kidpix Companion, an 
       add-on to Kidpix. Boy sees ad, we read it to him, he wants it, we
       say okay. Now try to find the product. At least 6 weeks later, no
       sign of said product for messy-dross.  Call Broderbund. Not released
       yet. When? He's not allowed to tell me. Try explaining that to a
       disappointed 4.5 year old.

Steve.
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Pained Whale?
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:14:30 GMT
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Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca
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In article <1992Oct9.112650.26881@cas.org> esp51@cas.org () writes:

>I find the Peevetown fantasy a useful tool to poke fun at the
>conservativemachokillkillkill mindset which is so often
>displayed here.  

I tend to think of it as gloriously unfettered vocal impatience with 
mealy-mouthed weenies of all stripes, which would normally be tempered 
by the decorum inherent to day-to-day social interaction.

Since when is "macho" a pejorative term, by the way?  I always thought of
it as neutral at worst, and judging by the context I've seen it in, much
of the English-speaking world agrees with me.  Lately, though, some folks
tend to use it as a (perceived) scathing retort when they've been accused 
of wimpism: "Oh, what a macho-man *you* are!"  To which an appropriate 
reply is, "Why thank you!  How gracious of you to underscore one of my 
positive traits, even though we're in the midst of a pissing contest!"  

If masculinity is under attack simply for its own sake, the world is indeed
scrod up.  We could use a bit more Ernest Hemingway and a bit less Alan
Alda.


>Peeve:  Berkely net cops, who after studying their asses off for
>6 years find the only job they can get is tongue flossing the
>butt crack of a Stanford or Harvard mba.

Peeve:  Academic DickSizeWars.  Surely there are more important, substantial
and relevant things to use as material for put-downs?


Geoff


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From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: Lou Reed (was Re: credit card peeve)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:57:20 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

donp@twg.com (Don Pette) writes: 
| In article <1992Oct12.163017.2419@dazixco.ingr.com> avdh@sunnyboy.dazixco.ingr.com (Alain van der Heide) spews:
| >
| >Peeve:  Clones who think they know rock-n-roll, but have apparently never heard
| >of the Velvet Underground (members included Lou Reed and John Cale - produced by
| 
| Listen Van Der Puke, Don't come around here tryin' to fit in using
| worthless words like _clones_. If you're going to flame in this town,
| do it right or get the fuck out.

I just have to agree with all of this, except:

| peeve - I was 6 years old when VU was around, so I never heard of
|         them. By the time I was old enough to get stoned and listen to
|         rock with the big boys, the VU were no more.

Peeve: Incredibly poor excuses.  Buddy Holly died before I was born. The
Beatles broke up when I was but a wee lad. Richie Valens, The Big Bopper,
the list could go on and on.  Oddly, I've heard of all of these famous
people and even own music by several of them.  I also have recordings 
from many other lesser-known artists that have since passed on or, in
the case of groups, broken up.  Very little knowledge is gonna fall out
of the sky and hit you in the head.  You can't count on the JennyG's of
the world to infuse you with knowledge in spite of yourself.

!Peeve: Death does not necessarily signal the end of one's existence.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
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|Dr. Pavlov's distinguished career came to an      |
|abrupt end one day when the doorbell rang and the |
|dog ate the Avon lady.                            |
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From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bike peeves
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:52:19 GMT
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Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
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In article <Bw4LI6.KwC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
(Thomas A. Dennis) writes:

>Then there's the third half... the so-called "hybrid" bikes, neither fish 
>nor fowl... which, IMHO, are what most of the "regukar"[sic] folx are riding. 
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Peeve: readers who lower themselves to the point of highlighting other
people's typos.  If the key for the misplaced letter is adjacent to the
key for the proper one, I give the writer the benefit of the doubt.  Not
that I'd make an issue of it otherwise, of course.

"Folx" indeed.  Peeve: Cutesy abbreviations.


>Unless you actually ride in the mountains or race, a hybrid makes the most 
>sense.  That's why I bought one, duh.  I dunno why mountain-bikers get such a 
>charge out of jumping curbs--about all the little machines are good for in the
>city--but they are quite a bit less irritating than the Lycra-clad ectomorphs 
>who paint their clothes on, just in case you hadn't noticed that they had no 
>body fat.

I use my mountain bike for the same sort of riding I used to employ my
ten-speed for, and I have the option of riding it on trails should I 
so desire.  I wish I'd had one in junior high and high school; they're 
a lot more rugged than the drop-handlebar bikes are.


>Nah, I don't think so.  Rollers whip around on sidewalks without looking at 
>where they're going, and then have the gall to give bikers shit.  

Oh, you mean *roller skaters.*  When you said you almost collided with
a "roller," I thought you were referring to a Rolls-Royce -- hence my
comment about resenting other people's prosperity.

Peeve: ambiguous slang expressions.


Geoff


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From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Hare Triggers
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:05:16 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <Bvrns4.3zw@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>In article <17744@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>>By the way, tomorrow is my birthday, so be nice to me.


I fucked up. My photography class was cancelled, my doctor's appointment
delayed. My birthday is Friday and I don't know what possessed me. There,
I feel better. I am sorry to mislead you. I will be an Older Fart a day
later than announced.

Peeve: Being an Old Fart.

!Peeve: I still make more money than I did when I was a Young Fart.

>All right, this is an official announcement of the new Bunnyhugging section
>of the Peevetown Inn.
[etc]
>
>However, since I've decided that Elaine is the only bunnyhugger I like, this
>section only seats one. and that one seat is on permanent reserve for Booter.


That's great. I feel honored and a little touched (in the head). I have
this image of the old Italian dons I knew in Brooklyn, who had their
favorite seat in the neighborhood restaurant where they did a lot of their
book...er...entertainment. "Eh, Guid', a liddle more chianti for the preddy
liddle t'ing heah."
>
>In Booter we trust, all others eat meat - The Peevetown Inn Motto

If the Peevetown Inn Rite of Passage is to eat meat, hand me some
Prime Rib. I hug bunnies, but cows are not particularly huggable.
Oh, and can I have some sprouts and carrot juice with that?

ER
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Pained Whale?
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Limelighters' Fan Club?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:45:30 GMT


In article <BvrvJp.83w@nic.umass.edu>, jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu writes:

[deletia]

|>And never forget, you can NEVER have too much horseradish.

'Strewth! 'Specially when ya gots sinus problems. The schtuff cleans 'em right
out - at least if it's fresh.  Near the PlaceOfEmployment there's a Polish
restaurant, Eugene's by name, at which the horseradish is always fresh -
homemade, actually. Goes good with the Bigosz and Elizabeth's stuffed cabbage
and the pirogi and the sausage and the white borscht and the... Damme! It's
peeve time!

PEEVE: I ain't been to Eugene's in months!

(Jenny's line above reminds me of that great line from the Limelighters'
_Tonight in Person_ album, "The chrain in Spain / On the table makes a
stain.")

--
Nolan Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"Grab Dick and come on down"  Don Pette
"Texas is like an old woman's pussy.  Everyone knows its down there but
nobody gives a fuck."  - Overheard on CB radio, compliments of 
	bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
"Boy, was I in for a dose of reality." Randall K. Abler
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon
"Well, first of all, your stance is too wide"

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From: gcombs@parsifal.umkc.edu (Gerald Combs)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:12:33 GMT
Reply-To: gcombs@parsifal.umkc.edu (Gerald Combs)
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <16070002@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>, kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
>
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?

  Sure.  People should have all the Equal they can afford.  Sweet-N-Low, that 
new NutraSweet sweetener, and real sugar too.

  Peeve:  But what does this have to do with peeves?

- Gerald Combs
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Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (Wild Child)
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:42:09 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1b1rrgINN2tj@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:
> In article <92282.110029SECBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> SECBH@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>>In regard to Sinead O'Connor's tearing up the Roman Pontiff's picture

> The point you miss is that Sinead indicated that he was "evil" before
> she tore up the picture, and then told the crowd to "fight the REAL
> enemy" afterwards, which is slightly different than making a coherent
> religious or political stand against him.

> Ireland. She spoke out against the Pope, who many feel (whether you
> or she likes it or not) is a great force for peace in the world, because
> apparently he is causing the mess in Ulster, instead of going to Belfast
> and picketing the IRA offices or whoever is directly involved. Of course,
> she'd risk getting her ass blown off.

Where have you been the last few days? That old fart just did another
anti-contraception sortie in yet another badly overpopulated country.
'Evil' on Sinead's part may be a bit over the top, but he is an enemy
of the world.

-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
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From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (I would like to return this TOBACCONIST; it is scratched)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: ANOTHER ONE!
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:51:13 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:

>	So, Master Peter!, show me how you make the Sign of the
>	Cross...we'll soon know if you are a Child of God or not.....

Spectacles
Testicles
Wallet
Cigars
-- 
"If I had killed her when I had first thought about getting divorced,
 I would have been out of jail by now."
	-- A newly-divorced guy I met at a block party
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From: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.politics.correct,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:53:43 GMT
Reply-To: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


Oh for crying out loud, Jughaid O'Cosmic tore up his picture
because she makes her living catering to the whims of rich
19 year old college students who dress exclusively in black
and moan about how much angst there is in life when your
kid brother gets a newer Porsche than Mom and Dad (fascist
bourgeois scum that they are) gave to you. 

That's it. 

JZ

peeve: people who give entirely too much attention to the political views of singers.
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Freshers
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:54:41 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:

>While we're taking the intellectual high-ground, I have to admit to being
>seriously peeved about _The Big Breakfast_, the new breakfast TV show

duh. what's breakfast?

>I noted that in an inexplicable
>bout of good taste, _The Big Breakfast_ was going to be showing The Banana
>Splits,

Party On Dudes. Most heinous show! :-)

>something I haven't seen since I was about 5. So, at the assigned
>time of 7.25am this morning

There's a 7.25 in the morning?? Jeese, I thought those numbers were just
for at night.

>I switched from my regular diet of financial
>news

Financial news is fattening doncha know....

>and deeply important serious world events to watch Fleegle, Bingo,
>Drooper and Snork (just what the hell *were* they, anyway?

They're hallucinations. This series was made at a time when the TV
People (see Poltergeist) used to join in with the rest of the folks
still wearing kaftans and drop a little illegal substance or other the
way most folks stop for tea. Upon discovering that, under the influence
as it were, they acted really childishly, one of them somehow remembered
this afterwards (scientists are trying to repeat this feat but have so
far failed) and concluded "Hey, just wow man! Cosmic! We can make kids
TV like this. I mean, it's just The Answer Man!"

And thus were born shows like The Magic Roundabout, the Banana Splits,
Mr.Terrific, and H.R.Puffnstuff.

Strangely, the kids liked the shows and under their satanic influence,
grew up to be......

...adults who still like these shows.

>I always found
>the idea of a kid's show where the cuddly characters looked like the
>results of an explosion in a taxidermists rather amusing) falling over a
>lot and hitting each other. The peeve? They only showed the titles and
>about 30 seconds worth of the actual show.

Bogus.

>I left the room for a minute to
>take a leak, figuring I wouldn't miss much, and it was *finished* when I
>came back. No "Size of an elephant!", no little girls singing in Spanish
>and playing guitars, no banana buggies, *nothing*.

And what about Charlie? The Girl From The Sour Grapes Gang?

>What's junk culture
>coming to these days...

Well, if Terrahawks is anything to go by, not much.

>--
>		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk

FoFP (who used to get time off work to see H.R.Puffnstuff)

H.R.Puffnstuff
He's your friend when things get rough
H.R.Puffnstuff
Can't do a little 'cos he can't do enough.
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From: tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Subject: Re: corporate slime
Keywords: Losers
Reply-To: tim@physics.orst.edu
Organization: Up the,
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 00:14:02 GMT

In article <LARRY.92Oct7144430@peak.psl.nmsu.edu>, larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.144134.6028@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
|>       [ ...defense of imagined one-sided attack against "evil corporations"]
|> 
|>     Peeve:  One-sided attacks against "evil corporations."  You know, the
|> 	    ones that conveniently forget or gloss-over the failures and
|> 	    shortcomings of the corrupt labor unions.
|> 
|>  Not really. But I never said that corporations were evil, so you can put your
|>  slobber back in your mouth, Bill.
|> 

I don't think anyone has claimed that unions were anything other than corrupt
and incompetent, not to mention obsolete in today's workforce.  No one has 
forgotten this.

On the other hand, American corporate management has certainly been, if not evil,
stupid, shortsighted, selfish, and incompetent.  

|>     Labor unions serve the worker, corporate management serves the corporation.
|>     Got a problem with that?

Not only have unions not been serving the worker, but corporate management hasn't
been serving the stockholders.

Unless, that is, you consider diverting funding from research, investment in the
infra-structure, modernization, hiring competents, and cutting quality to increase
dividends and executive bonuses, despite running the company into bankruptcy while
the Japanese are selling below cost to increase market share serving the stockholders.

Is making some effort to avoid screwing over the employees good business?  It seems
to work for the Japs.  Check out the employees of Tek up in Portland.  A recent spat
of firings, rehirings, and lay-offs have saved the company money, but any one capable
enough to get a job elsewhere has done so.  If you're holding Tek stock, sell.


-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tim's to do list ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
1. Get old, die.
2. I must not think bad thoughts.
3. Get mine before this fetid rotting contaminated carcass we 
   call Earth collapses about our collective head.
4. Read a good book.
5. Eliminate homicidal clones of self.
6. Consult hyperintelligent aliens about personal life.
7. Make itemized account of all precious bodily fluids.
8. Play basketball.
9. Start making up excuses for Judgement Day.
10.Collect ozone in tiny little bottles, sell as souvenirs in 20
   years, get rich.
11.Sublet my office space to toxic waste disposal firm, put the
   money in life-insurance.
12.Redeem cereal box top for Hubbel space binoculars.

---------Tim Mefford      tim@physics.orst.edu-----------------
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:28:04 GMT
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Why do people say "'Roman' Catholic?"  Isn't that redundant?  I'm not
aware that there's any other kind.  

I once heard someone assert that it's "Roman" Catholic as opposed to the 
Eastern Orthodox church centered in Constantin...in Istanbul.  But history
notwithstanding, I've always considered the Eastern Orthodox Church to be 
its own thing, separate and distinct from Catholicism.  After all, its
members are never referred to as Eastern or Istanbul Catholics, or as any 
other kind of Catholics, and their priests wear those funny hats.


Geoff


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