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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Big Bri)
Subject: skeds needed
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:38:20 GMT

I need pocket schedules from:

San Jose, Calgary, New Jersey (at least one of each).

Also, Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton. 

I will trade any extra skeds I have of the other 16 teams you might
want.

Thanks. Please email me at:
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BRI FARENELL	CLARKSON '95	FARENEBT@CRAFT.CAMP.CLARKSON.EDU

"It's a great day for hockey."	---Bob Johnson 1931-1991

GO ADIRONDACK RED WINGS! 	CALDER CUP CHAMPS: 1981 1986 1989

BOSTON BRUINS 		STANLEY CUP CHAMPS: 1929 1939 1941 1970 1972
	      		LAST NON-PLAYOFF YR: 1967
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Perfect record??
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:31:41 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <QdunQiK00UhWA5nGMW@andrew.cmu.edu>, Michelle Zumbo <mz10+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Does anyone know if there has ever been a team with a perfect record
> during the regular season?  Either 80-0-0 or some variation of:  #-0-#.
> 
> Michelle

The Montreal Canadiens set the record for best regular season back in the
early seventies, when they had something like eight losses.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO)
Subject: Re: the season doesn't have to end...
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 16:35:38 GMT

Almost forgot to mention that there are some things that got me p.o'ed about
this strike, and one of them was that I have Islander/Leaf tickets for that 
April 1st game!  They had to pick that date for the strike, and not the 2nd
of April.  I guess it was an April fools joke on all hockey fans...
 
   ____
    / o n y.
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Dear Sherri
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:02:43 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Apr8.154714.29224@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>In article <28370025@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> cadams@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Adams) writes:
>>How about: "All teams should have equal opportunity to build a team
>>capable of winning the Stanley Cup."
>
>Good.  Now, tell me how the draft has helped the Jets compete?  Yes, they
>got Hawerchuk.  That's nice, but where's the Cup?

Give game 6 or game 7 of the Edmonton/Winnipeg series to the Jets instead of
the Oilers in the 1990 playoffs, and we very well could have had the Cup
that year.  As it was, after that series, the Oilers just steamrolled through
the next 3 rounds of the playoffs to the Cup.

Every year the Jets have been in the playoffs, it's the same story.  They 
could go all the way, IF they get out of their division.  They may be a
fourth place team this year, but assume two things.  Firstly, the Wings are
tops in the Norris, so assume they win it.  Secondly, assume the Jets get
out of the Smythe.  Mismatch, right?  It may be putting more stock into
regular season games than is warranted, but the Jets are either 3-0-0 or
2-0-1 this season against the Wings, so who could say that it would be
a mismatch.  

          Daryl Turner <umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
           r.s.h. contact for the Winnipeg Jets
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Fat Lady Sang ... NHL over?
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:18:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.011839.9331
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven) says:

>In article 23495@usenet.ins.cwru.edu, ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>And if this happens, whose fault will it be?
>
>I'll give you one guess...

It will be the fault of both parties involved, though the blame might
fall more on one side than the other.  Ziegler, though, will be
crucified.
-- 
ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu (Eric Rickin) or bu072@gnh-bauhaus.cts.com
Slap and Tickle... The Canadian National Sport
University of Michigan: Class of 1996
From: dutkowsk5111@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Lazy hockey player needs help (psycho therapy)
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:14:06 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

 Hello, my name is jean-claude dutkowsk5111 and I am a very bad hockey
player.  I've never had a good coach and it shows.  I've been told that
there are only two things keeping me out of the NHL, a knife and a fork
(thanks Dale Talon).  I'm 4 foot 9, and weigh 300 lbs.  I'm known in the
local area for my knee checks and me suicide passes.  the only awards 
I've ever recieved are "Most Improved - '78-'79" and "Most pizzas sold" in
1980.  I think I had a good year in the MSCIHL (Midwest Correctional
Institute hockey league) with 300 pim in 1 game.  I even wear my helmet
when I'm not playing hockey.  Too showboat some of my talents,I was nicknamed
 "Schnieder" (utility man).  Are any NHL teams interested in me?  I AM
willing to relocate! 
                                  Jean-Claude Dutkowsk5111


I just had to do this. No disrespect to the guy who posted the original
message, but who HASN'T wanted to go higher up in hockey.  If you're good
enough and you try hard enough, you might acieve you're dream.  I too 
wanted to be in the NHL,but it's too late.  I just pride myself in the 
league I'm in now and accept what comes after it. NOTHING!  Try Try Try, 
thats all I can tell you.
From: bwalhof@ub.d.umn.edu (Barry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: The Strike is Over!!!
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:52:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth. Information Services.



Hello All,

Just got done watching CNN and they reported the NHL strike to be over, the
players and owners tennatively agreed to a contract and that players are to
report to their respective teams on Saturday and play could resume as early
as Sunday!!!

I know one is not supposed to post recent events, but this is great!!!

The playoffs are back and the Stars are driving for there second finals in a
row, so all other teams, get out of the way!!!!!  That is if they dont choke
in the last 4 games, if they play them???

Barry
From: mz10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michelle Zumbo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Perfect record??
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:49:02 GMT
Organization: Athletics and Physical Education, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone know if there has ever been a team with a perfect record
during the regular season?  Either 80-0-0 or some variation of:  #-0-#.

Michelle
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (gut feelings...)
Subject: Re: What the world needs now is an AMERICAN TV CONTRACT.
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:28:33 GMT

In <allan.703112405@kitscoty> allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes:

>If Don Cherry was running the league, the NHL likely wouldn't be in
>the trouble it is now.

!?!  The league is in the fix it is in now because Don Cherry's immature
attitude is the norm.  The reason the league does not have a US tv contract
is because it is perceived as minor league roller-derby crap.  The concept
of hockey that is spreading through out the world does not have too much
to do with Bob Probert-Tie Domi bouts.  I would rather watch Gretzky and
Lemieux. if i want to go to fights I will go to boxing - or WWF.

The NHL owners are committed to short term profits i.e., keeping the arenas
full and making money off of concessions parking etc.  It is this attitude
that keeps the players relatively underpaid.  If the players demand more
money the owners will have to get it from US TV and to do that they will
have to take the immature "goon" element out of the league.  Why should they 
change things if they don't have to?  Everytime a player signs a million
dollar contract the NHL inches closer to becoming a real sport.

>(Of course, with the way that the league is being run, Howdy Doodie
>would probably be better at running the league.)

quite right...

No doubt these things have been said.  I am coming in here late.


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>    \  \                  |Department of Computing Science,
>     \  \_______          |University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
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>       \___###___\   (_)  |My opinions are mine and mine alone.
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>"It is amazing how much can be accomplished if no one cares who gets the
> credit..."          - U. of A. Golden Bears Hockey Motto (C. Drake)
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roger l. maynard                              
91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca             
Sudbury Ont.                                
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: UD High Number set question
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:51:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.225111.20889@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
>How much should a set of Upper Deck (91-92) High # factory cost?
>
>I bought a set down town today, and I want to see if I got screwed over.
>I got a box of UD (normal) for $29.95, and I guess that's a decent
>price, but I want to see about the set.
>
 I just bought the whole High # factory set for $19.00 as of last week.
Prices will be going up quickly.

Joe.
jca2@cec1.wustl.edu
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Fan Intervention
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:13:25 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Apr17.181446.3901@walter.bellcore.com>, dja1@mulch.picst.bellcore.com (Dave Arlington) writes:
> 
>    I saw on MSG Network the other night, Bob Page showing that highlight
> film and lamenting about the stuff like this being what makes hockey so
> unpopular in the United States ("like WrestleMania" he said) and I've seen

The funny/sad thing about it, is that if the NHL was as popular in this
country as is the WWF they wouldn't have half the problems they
currently do... there was a recent poll in some magazine (something like
Sports Illustrated for Kids  I think) that found that the most
popular "sport" for kids was the WWF - hockey was below it, baseball, 
football, basketball.


			gln
From: jdelorey@jdelorey.stfx.ca (J. DeLorey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: 1991 playoff stats
Summary: 1991 playoffs
Keywords: 1991 playoffs
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:38:53 GMT
Organization: stfx

Hi,
Does anyone have a copy of the 1991 playoff stats?  I would like
both the team and individual stats.
thanks
John
From: cs911030@ariel.yorku.ca (STAVROS TSOKOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Consecutive seasons over .500
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:11:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada

In article <1992Apr14.222652.216@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.211313.29566@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO) writes:

>>I think I said enough...  Any comments?  Suggestions?  Donations? :-)
>> 
>
>I think you said too much.   :-)
>
>--Dave

Tony...Dave...I think you've both said too much!

San Jose  will go all the way ... sometime in the future!

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Re: NHL playoff
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:48:41 GMT

In article <PTeViB3w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>X68305@BARILVM.BITNET writes:
>
>>    I am a hockey fan from Israel. There isn'tmuch hockey here, nor
>> anyone give it attention in sport papers etc. All info i gather is from
>> cables TV. (about 2 games per week, with a brief overview)
>>    I understand that the playoff is soon to begin and i even don't know
>> who plays against who , or whos the playoff system works (like NBA? like NFL?
>> any information will be appreciate.
> 
>This could very well be the saddest thing I've ever heard.  Should we tell
>him, and ruin his day, or just make up results as we go along?
>
Sorry, he who's from Israel, but you just missed it. The Stanley Cup
final's final game was last weekend. It came down to Vancouver Canucks
vs New York Rangers. Last Sunday was the 7th game of the best of 7
games final series. They went into the last game 3 games a piece.
It was scoreless right to double overtime. But within the double
overtime period, Pavel Bure finally had a break away and squeezed
it in right between the pads. Vancouver won 4 games to 3 in a 1 to
0 double overtime final game and took the Stanley Cup home. Pavel
Bure was of course the MVP (most valuable player).

Thomas.

Disclaimer: NOT! :)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Kiss the playoffs goodbye
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:20:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.052426.8099@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>"I don't know who was more stupid ... the owners for putting forward

>After a long lead-in on WFAN all-sports about the death of the season
>the first caller says ... "How about those Yankees, winning the first
>game of the season?" -- that's when I turned off the radio and felt
>like throwing up.  I turned it on again and there's another guy, and
>they're talking about the Mets.

>I don't mean to sound paranoid, but it struck me that neither ESPN nor
>CNN cared about this ... in fact, they seemed happy to put in more
>time for the NCAA Basketball Final Four and for baseball's opening day.

You are not paranoid, but this is exactly why marketing has everything to do 
with the league's success.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mczody@athena.mit.edu (Michael C. Zody)
Subject: Re: What the world needs now is an AMERICAN TV CONTRACT.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:57:18 GMT

In article <allan.702679696@kitscoty>, allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes:

|> I also base my opinion on a friend of mine, who played hockey first
|> with the OHL (Junior A), where fighting is allowed, and then University
|> Hockey, where fighting is not allowed. (I think the player gets suspended
|> for the season if he fights.) His observation? A lot of players at
|> the University level were careless with their sticks, because they knew
|> that the other players were powerless to do anything about it. If
|> fighting were allowed at the University level, then the players could
|> quickly end the careless use of sticks right then and there.

   Actually, the rule is an automatic game misconduct and game suspension.  The
result is that it's never called.  I saw one fight where both players threw off
their gloves and one even hit an official.  The result?  A triple minor and
double minor for roughing and the teams were apparently warned not to bring the
players back on (they weren't actually given the misconduct since this would
carry an automatic suspension and the next game for both teams was a playoff
game).
   I agree fully that you get more stickwork in the college games, but I'm not
sure if that's because of no fighting, or because of bad reffing, or because
of cages.  The fact is that if you go to a college game, the most common sound
heard is that of a stick hitting the glass.  I'd say 75% of the checking on the
boards could be called either cross-checking or high-sticking, but it isn't.
   Why not?  The best answer I can come up with is the cage (or plastic face
shield if your program has more money :).  Because the players are protected,
there's no real reason to call the high-stick, because unless it's a real
baseball swing, it won't hurt.  When I play, I wear one, and I've been hit
in the face.  The spray of ice is sort of refreshing....  Actually, the only
thing I worry about at all is getting hit in the neck, which still really
hurts.
   The result is that players get used to playing with their sticks up because
no one ever gets seriously injured... until they get to the NHL.  Coach Rick
Bowness of the Bruins agrees with me.  He commented earlier this year that
when he was a player, guys didn't wear helmets and everyone knew to keep the
stick down.  Now guys wear helmets and I'd guess about 50% of NHL players have
the visor.  More and more are coming from US colleges where they've been wearing
the cage.  The result?  Guys don't feel as compelled to keep the stick down and
you get more injuries.
   Does fighting help?  I don't really think so.  I mean, don't tell me that
that guys that play professional hockey are really afraid of anyone else on the
ice.  However, the advantage of fighting is that when the guys get really mad
and want to retalliate, it's a lot safer than having them swing their sticks
at each other.

Michael Zody
From: bsk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian S. Kazmierczak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Fan Intervention
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:17:10 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr17.153204.21472@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> leyfre@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Frederic Leymarie) writes:
>In any case, the way the Sabres players behaved (especially the one on top of
>him, punching him X times on the head) was pretty disgusting. Even the coach
>was involved, apparently shouting pretty stupid directives to his "soldiers".
>

Hmm.. I saw a picture that showed the coach pulling a player away from
the fan. I guess maybe it was just trick photography (note the sarcasm)

Anyway, the rough action on the ice was the Sabres way of preparing themselves
for the Bruins style of play. They just want to be prepared so they are not
intimidated by the Bruins like the Bruins seem to think they will intimidate
the sabres.

Funny.  It is pretty ironic that a Bruins fan would be trying to make the fans
out to be angels. (reference to another post)

Oh, by the way, I guess a Buffalo playing hockey isn't any stranger than a 
Bear playing hockey. I have never seen either animal playing the sport.


>-- 
>Frederic Leymarie -- leyfre@mcrcim.mcgill.edu
>McGill University, Electrical Eng. Dept., McRCIM,    |	Tel.: (514) 398-8204
>3480 University St., Montreal, QC, CANADA, H3A 2A7.  |	FAX:  (514) 398-7348



Brian
From: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Sharks Rumor Mill
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:27:08 GMT
Reply-To: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gakbox.corp.sun.com

I had the pleasure of watching Saturday's KC Blades game with Sharks GM
Jack Ferreira.  Oddly enough, our conversation turned to hockey, and
here are a few of the things he had to say:

    - Ray Whitney may play for the Sharks sometime this week.
    
    - Vancouver wanted Ken Hammond so they can give him up in the
      expansion draft.
    
    - Wade Flaherty will be in goal for the Sharks in Edmonton this
      Sunday.  (Which he was.)
    
    - Kelly Kisio will sign with the Sharks next year.  Regarding the
      attempted Kisio deal:  "I couldn't get a broken stick for him."
    
    - The players will name Jeff Odgers as their captain within three
      years.
    
    - Link Gaetz is still in the ICU, and he will probably require plastic
      surgery to repair the damage done to his face.

---
Richard Stueven       AHA# 22584 |----------| Gloom, despair, and agony on me,
Internet:       gak@Corp.Sun.COM |----GO----| deep dark depression, excessive
ATTMAIL:         ...!attmail!gak |---SHARX--| misery, if it weren't for bad luck
Cow Palace: Sec 107 Row F Seat 9 |----------| I'd have no luck at all...
From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Subject: IHL Plyoffs - Scores
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 05:10:53 GMT


Peoria 5 San Diego 
     Peoria leads series 3-0

Kansas City 7 Salt Lake 2
      Kansas City lead series 2-0

Fort Wayne 3 Kalamzoo 1
   Fort Wayne leads series 2-1

Muskegon 4  Milwaukee 2
    Series tied 1-1
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              behunin@ftp.nevada.edu
bitnet:       behunin@UMASS
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Subject: Re: NCAA officiating
Reply-To: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 15:06:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.063024.19014@noao.edu>, alex@noao.edu (Alex Macdonald) writes:

|> Hockey is a
|>game, a tough game where you're held accountable for your actions by
|>your fellow players. Do something cheap and prepare to pay, maybe not
|>this period or this game but count on a measure of repayment. The
|>players with guts and honor know who they are and they respect each
|>other. In short, players have seen alot of hockey and know the game,
|>what they need is someone to call offsides and icing, they can police
|>themselves. 

Let me get this straight.  So are you suggesting we don't need a ref at all,
only linesmen (since they're the ones who call offsides and icing).  So if
a player hooks or holds or trips another player, he shouldn't be called for
a penalty because, since the players police themselves, he'll just be "taken 
care of" later.  I wonder if you feel this way if a player on the team you 
like is hooked down on a scoring opportunity (or anytime for that matter).
  

|>The ref called a piss-poor game and the Wisconsin players
|>held him accountable. A few nasty words, a brandished stick maybe even
|>a punch-a player takes all this and more during the course of a long
|>season. But accounts are balanced and its all forgotten next season.
|>But don't touch that ref! Don't call him a name! We'll legislate your
|>team right out of town. The hypocrisy is stunning and par for the
|>course for the refs and "suits" who want the lead role in every play.
|>Flames welcome.
|>
|>Alex.                              alex@khaki.kpno.noao.edu
|>

Yeah, I guess you're right.  If a player believes he was unjustly called for
a penalty, he should at least yell obscenities at the ref... the second time 
give him a shove... the third time - THAT'S IT - punch him in the nose. (This, 
of course, will not be necessary when we adopt the no ref system suggested 
above.) 


-lisa

P.S. Alex, have you considered watching professional wrestling?  I'm sure you'd
love it!!
From: bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS FOR 4-16-92
Keywords: playoffs
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:30:23 GMT
Organization: AT&T


NHL PLAYOFF HOCKEY RESULTS FOR 4/16/92.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS        BEST OF SEVEN
      PATRICK              ADAMS              NORRIS              SMYTHE
 
 NJ                  HAR                 MIN                 WIN               
 NYR   (tied  0-0)   MON   (tied  0-0)   DET   (tied  0-0)   VAN   (tied  0-0)

 PIT                 BUF                 STL                 EDM               
 WAS   (tied  0-0)   BOS   (tied  0-0)   CHI   (tied  0-0)   LA    (tied  0-0)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Playoff games for Saturday, April 18th:

	Minnesota  at  Detroit  (series tied 0-0)  7:35pm EST
	St. Louis  at  Chicago  (series tied 0-0)  8:35pm EST
	Winnipeg  at  Vancouver  (series tied 0-0)  10:35pm EST
	Edmonton  at  Los Angeles  (series tied 0-0)  10:35pm EST


Playoff games for Sunday, April 19th:

	New Jersey  at  New York Rangers  (series tied 0-0)  7:35pm EST
	Pittsburgh  at  Washington  (series tied 0-0)  7:35pm EST
	Buffalo  at  Boston  (series tied 0-0)  7:35pm EST
	Hartford  at  Montreal  (series tied 0-0)  7:35pm EST



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