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From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Force #19 *possible SPOILERS*
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:47:30 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz) writes:

>   Stevie Hunter was a friend of the X-Men who first appeared around issue
>#139 as Kitty Pryde's dance teacher. During Claremont's run on the New
>Mutants and until the Mutant Massacre in X-Men, she played the role of 
>advisor among the X-Men and New Mutants. For some reason, she did not 
>participate in any X-stories from the Mutant Massacre (issues #210-213)
>until around issue #279.

Not to split hairs, but she acted as phys. ed. teacher (oh, it was a school?)
and physical therapist.

					Jamesa Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Force #19 *possible SPOILERS*
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:55:01 GMT
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Me, Myself, and I

In article <7rnrwgg@lynx.unm.edu> djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young) writes:



>Well Cannonball splits argues with Xavier about philosphy.  The
>closed fist vs. the open hand and I have to admit that Nicieza 
>presented a lively debate. But this issue did set up the future
>for a different direction with no interference from Xavier.
>I don't really know where Lila came from.  And who the heck
>was the Stevie girl talking to Roberto?]

   Stevie Hunter was a friend of the X-Men who first appeared around issue
#139 as Kitty Pryde's dance teacher. During Claremont's run on the New
Mutants and until the Mutant Massacre in X-Men, she played the role of 
advisor among the X-Men and New Mutants. For some reason, she did not 
participate in any X-stories from the Mutant Massacre (issues #210-213)
until around issue #279.


>There are probably others, but these bug me the most.  I hope that
>marvel let's not only X-Force but all of the Xbooks run for a year
>without a major crossover.

Amen!

(But we all know that Marvel couldn't possibly upset us fans by giving us
a year without crossovers! After all, that's what we've been *Demanding* :-)

---

Eric Jaron Stieglitz aka ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
"With great power comes great responsibility"
We have been given the power of free speech.
Let's make sure that we use it wisely... 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Re: Nature of Phoenix and the Multiverse
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:44:05 GMT

jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes
>>    Marvel seems to be playing with the 'go back in your own past and create
>>a new timeline' idea {reprecented by Bishop}, the 'you can only enter into 
>>another Earth's past' {Represented by Rachel Summers and Guardians of the 
>>Galaxy}

>Those two concepts are actually the same. (The reason you can't enter your
>own past is that your presence *creates* a divergence.)
It appears that I failed to properly explain the difference between these two
consepts so here goes.  In the 'go back in your own past and create a new 
timeline' things are as James Willer descibes them: the travelers very
present changes history.  What makes this different from the 'you can only 
enter another Earth's past' is that the history before the traveler's 
arrival is the same as the one they know and only changes AFTER their
arrival.  In the cases of both Rachel Summers and the Guardians of the 
Galaxy latest trip back in time history had changed BEFORE either of 
had arrived.  Take Rachel's world for instance, since Phoenix never existed
in this world (Excalibur #52) its history had diverged long before
Kate Pryde or Rachel showed up to change history. 
Maybe the idea would be better stated as 'you can only enter another
Earth's past that diverged before you arrived'
Comments welcome
From: jcowling@sol.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: New releases: December 29-31, 1993
Keywords: blah, blah, editorial license, blah, rhubarb, blah, blah
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:08:24 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada


This is a list of what is scheduled to be released by one distributor for the
week of December 29 to 31, 1992.

Archie
	Judghead Double Digest 16
	Laugh Digest 106
	TMNT Presents April O'Neil 3
	Wild West C.O.W.Boys of Moo Mesa 1

Comico
	Elementals 25
	Elementals Sex Special 4
	Elementals Sexy Lingerie Special 1A
		(editor's note:  who buys this crap?)
	Elementals: Death & Resurrection TPB
	Fathom 1

Cult Press
	Raggedyman 2

DC Comics
	Animal Man 56
	Batman: Sword of Azrael 4
	Black Condor 9
	Deathstroke the Terminator 19
	Fast Forward 3
	Green Lantern 36
	LEGION '93 49
	Showcase '93 2
	Star Trek: The Next Generation 43
	Swamp Thing 128
	Vertigo Preview (Colour)
	Who's Who Update '93 2
	Batman: Shaman TPB

Disney
	Colossal Comics Collection 9

Erik Lobo
	Nuke Nova: A Fist Full of Darkness 1

Fantaco
	Scab 2

Fantagraphics
	Hate 11
	Holo Brothers 4
	Itchy Planet 3
	Suburban Voodoo 1

Leadbelly
	Intergalactic Lizards of the Texas Plains 6

Malibu
	King Arthur Uncensored 2
	Planet of the Apes: Forbidden Zone 1

Martyr Press
	Temptress 1

Marvel
	Barbie Fashion 26
	Death's Head II/Killpower: Battletide 3
	Dr. Strange 50
	Fantastic Four 373
	Fish Police 5
	Ghost Rider/Blaze: Spirits of Vengeance 7
	Illuminator 1	(note:  this title was solicited as "Paragon")
	Iron Man 289
	Marvel Comics Presents 122
	Moon Knight 47
	Nam 77
	New Warriors 32
	Punisher 2099 1
	Punisher War Journal 51
	Silver Surfer 77
	Spectacular Spider-Man 197
	Venom 1
	X-Men Classics 80

Now
	Married With Children Flashback Special 1
	Sting of the Green Hornet 3

Tragedy Strikes Press
	Cheese Heads 1
	Way Out Strips 3

Tundra
	Doghead 1 (rerelease)
	
Valiant
	Solar, Man of the Atom 19
	X-O Manowar 14

Miscellaneous
	Cartoonist Profiles 96
	Collectors World V3#2
	Comic Buyers Guide 999
	Comics Journal 138
	Mangajin 22
	Overrstreet Price Update 25
		(editor's note:  how much you wanna bet Supes #75 is <$10?)
	Wizard 18
	Ray Bradbury Chronicles 3 HC
	Batman Animation Cels
	Batman Sericel
	X-Men Horizontal Door Poster
	Tick Triple Poster Deal
	Mad 1992 Commemmorative Card Set
	Batman Returns (II) Vinyl Model Kit
	Robocop 3 Vinyl Model Kit
	Judge Dredd Heavy Metal Lapel Pin

See y'all in 1993.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Professional Evil Person
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
-------



--
-Brian V. Hughes
	       "I am the terror that flaps in the night!
	  I am the $10 service charge on every returned check!
			  I'm Darkwing Duck!!"
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Terman Reviews: The Spider: Reign of the Vampire King #3
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:07:21 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster


Ratings and artwork are broken up into separate ratings, with a scale
of zero to four stars for each, four stars being top of the line, and
zero stars meaning I could do a better job, and less offensively as
well to the reader.

=====================================================================
The Spider: Reign of the Vampire King #3
Writer: Timothy Truman
Artist: Enrique Alcatena, Samuel Parsons
Publisher: Eclipse Comics

Writing: **1/2
Artwork: **1/2

The Spider was a character in pulp novels who was a 1930's version of
the Punisher. Tim Truman has brough the character in a slightly new
version to comics. This issue marks the conclusion of the second
triology of Spider titles. The Spider is Richard Wentworth, a rich
socialite who puts on a bizarre outfit and goes out and kills all the
evildoers he can get his hands on. Borderline psychotic himself.

In this trilogy, evil warped monsters from South America, led by a
giant man-bat vampire have started a reign of terror in the city as
they start extending their criminal trade in organs to the city. The
Spider goes after them with guns blazing, and a bazooka for good
measure. The decor is 1990's from the perspective of the 1930's, very
Gernsback-like. Lots of violence, gore and pounding action.

People reading this comic shouldn't do it for the depth of
characterization, the warm emotional feelings exchanged by
characters, or the subtle intellectual issues involved. This comic is
for people who want lots of action unhindered by things like the
brain or devices like plot and character development. Great artwork,
which is the sort of stuff this type of comic requires.

"Well, like I always say, partner: when the goin' gets tough, the
tough get loaded"
=====================================================================
-- 
    Martin Terman, Mutant for Hire, Mean Ol' Top, Priest of Shub-Internet
    Disclaimer: Nobody else takes me seriously, why should you be the first?
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-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Terman Reviews: X-Factor #87
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:09:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster


Ratings and artwork are broken up into separate ratings, with a scale
of zero to four stars for each, four stars being top of the line, and
zero stars meaning I could do a better job, and less offensively as
well to the reader.

=====================================================================
X-Factor #87
Writer: Peter David
Artist: Joe Quesada, Al Milgrom
Publisher: Marvel Comics

Writing: ***
Artwork: **1/2

Now that the X-Tinction Agenda is over, Peter David can turn his
attention to writing X-Factor without the interference of crossovers
and plots out of his hands. In this issue, the team goes to a shrink
on the orders of their government liason Val Cooper to see if they're
suffering any trauma at being forced to go through a badly written
storyline.

The psychiatrist, off panel, questions each of the team members and
probes at why they behave the way they do. Some of them explain their
fears and motivations, others describe the side effects that their
powers bring. Some storm off, others manage to leave the shrink at a
loss for words. Some reveal they're not quite as together as they
appear to be on the surface. Plenty of material for future plotlines.
Some of them learn some things about themselves that might help them
deal with their problems, others are less resolved. The issue ends
with Val describing her views of each of the characters and being
totally wrong on each of them, and the shrink being none other than
Doc Sampson, also appearing in Hulk.

This issue shows Peter David at his forte, dialogue between small
groups of people. He's got a good sense of characterization and a
talent for writing natural sounding dialogue. He's also finally
making some of the characters sound different than each other. There
was a tendency before to have a bunch of wise-talking dialogue
balloons that you had to trace to their owners to find out who was
saying what. People into superhero comics should check out this title
as well. Its not ground breaking, but it has heart. (liked Polaris'
new look, but I don't think we're going to see it much)

"If you call growing up on a deserted farm with your only company
being your dead parents unusual, then okay."
=====================================================================

-- 
    Martin Terman, Mutant for Hire, Mean Ol' Top, Priest of Shub-Internet
    Disclaimer: Nobody else takes me seriously, why should you be the first?
mfterman@phoenix.princeton.edu mfterman@pucc.bitnet terman@pupgga.princeton.edu
"Sig quotes are like bumper stickers, only without the same sense of relevance"



--
-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Administrivia (X-Mas Vacation...)
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:35:57 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info


    Just wanted to let people know that I will be taking my X-Mas
Vacation starting Tues. 22 (Tomorrow) and I won't be returning until the
28th. Basically this means that there will be some delay in any posts
sent to rec.arts.comics.info in the next week. I will be posting any
posts sent this week on next monday. Later everyone, and Merry Christmas. 


--
-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Terman Reviews: Hepcats #10
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:05:26 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

Ratings and artwork are broken up into separate ratings, with a scale
of zero to four stars for each, four stars being top of the line, and
zero stars meaning I could do a better job, and less offensively as
well to the reader.

=====================================================================
Hepcats #10
Writer: Martin Wagner
Artist: Martin Wagner
Publisher: Double Diamond Press

Writing: ***
Artwork: **1/2

This issue focues on Erica, the girlfriend of Arnie, one of the
protangonists in Hepcats. Last issues we learned that her name really
wasn't Erica, and that she came from an abused home. She had also
tried to commit suicide, and this issue is a flashback to the events
leading up to and including her attempt to kill herself. No real new
revelations, except there are some new insights into the events
around her attempt, like the fact that she wanted to fail at the
attempt, to be rescued.

Its a very warm and sad story at the same time. We see the motives of
someone who wants to die, but not totally, and the mixture of motives
comes out along the way. It also shows the false front a person who
is contemplating suicide can put up. Dave Sim in Cerebus has stated
that people die many times before the final death, and indeed Erica's
attempt kills off the false persona she had created after fleeing her
family. Next issue we learn about her childhood and the true story
about what happen when she ran away.

This comic is serious and moving and deals with very real and tragic
issues. The fact that the people in this comic have animal features
is totally irrelevant to the comic. Fans of Omaha should be able to
go right into this series and be sure of entertainment. Martin Wagner
is an independent comic book creator who should be bought and read.

"My lungs-- which had been threatening to go off like two bombs--
went off like two bombs... the precious air escaping in a blast of
pure, white pain."
=====================================================================
-- 
    Martin Terman, Mutant for Hire, Mean Ol' Top, Priest of Shub-Internet
    Disclaimer: Nobody else takes me seriously, why should you be the first?
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"Sig quotes are like bumper stickers, only without the same sense of relevance"


--
-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Terman Reviews: Incredible Hulk #402
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:06:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster


Ratings and artwork are broken up into separate ratings, with a scale
of zero to four stars for each, four stars being top of the line, and
zero stars meaning I could do a better job, and less offensively as
well to the reader.
=====================================================================
Incredible Hulk #402
Writer: Peter David
Artist: Jan Duursema, Mark Farmer
Publisher: Marvel Comics

Writing: **
Artwork: **
Currently, for those not following the Hulk, Bruce Banner, the green
Hulk and the gray Hulk were all integrated into one Hulk by fusing
his split personalities together. He was promptly recruited by a
figure named Agamemnon who claimed to be the one of classic
literature into a group called the Pantheon, a low profile team
dedicated to doing good. Last issue Aggie decided he needed to go out
and learn about the modern world, so he has appointed the Hulk to be
in charge of the Pantheon until he returns.

So the Hulk has sent of people to various hotspots in the world. He
goes off to the rain forests of South America to stop deforestation
there. Unfortunately he runs into a redheaded strongman who not only
seems to be as tough as the Hulk, but in fact tougher. After a long
battle, the Hulk is tromped on. The villains decide to keep Hulk
alive to deal with another superhero team approaching the area.
Meanwhile Rick Jones and Betty Banner have called upon that great
shrink to the superheroes, Doc Sampson to help them with Rick's
formerly deceased girlfriend who seems to be in some sort of coma.

Flashing in and out of the fight is strange, but effective. Peter
David isn't great at fight scenes, but this one works quite well.
There's some good interperson tension as members of the Pantheon take
differing views of the Hulk's new leadership position, and a cute
moment between Betty and her husband.

Okay, so there aren't any great intellectual issues being dealt with
in this issue, but it is a nice superheroic soap opera. Peter David
has been taking the Hulk and developing his character and those of
the people around him, and this comic actually is going places,
rather than staying in a timeless limbo like some other comics. If
you like superhero comics, I recommend the Hulk highly.

"Good luck in staying in touch with your humanity. Because if you
dont... then in the long run... none of us are going to make it."
=====================================================================
-- 
    Martin Terman, Mutant for Hire, Mean Ol' Top, Priest of Shub-Internet
    Disclaimer: Nobody else takes me seriously, why should you be the first?
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--
-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: Terman Reviews: Thirteen O'Clock
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:08:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster


Ratings and artwork are broken up into separate ratings, with a scale
of zero to four stars for each, four stars being top of the line, and
zero stars meaning I could do a better job, and less offensively as
well to the reader.

=====================================================================
Thirteen O'Clock
Writer: Richard Sala
Artist: Richard Sala
Publisher: Dark Horse Comics

Writing: *1/2
Artwork: *1/2

Thirteen O'Clock contains two stories about Mr. Murmer, a pulp hero
in the tradition of the Green Hornet. He deals with ghastly horrible
crimes of the types popularized in the more grotesque slasher films.
Decapitated heads with hypnotic powers, a man who captures dancers so
he can use their flesh to restore his disfigured wife, not the sort
of stuff that you find in the Incredible Hulk.

The plots are standard twisted horror, they have their moments, but
they're not especially moving. The artwork is crude, though it gives
a certain flavor to the stories that would otherwise be absent. The
writing does capture some pulp flavor, but overall, I'd give it a
miss unless you're into macabre horror.

"The clock is chiming thirteen again! The skull is summoning us! When
I give him this formula tonight, he'll reward me with a fortune!"
=====================================================================
-- 
    Martin Terman, Mutant for Hire, Mean Ol' Top, Priest of Shub-Internet
    Disclaimer: Nobody else takes me seriously, why should you be the first?
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--
-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: who knows about Reinhold Marxhausen?
Keywords: search lookfor hunt
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:49:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

i have heard of an artist (sculptor?) named Reinhold Marxhausen
who may or may not be living in the midwest.  i am not sure
what kind of work he creates; in fact the only *fact* i know is that
he has been only _Late_Night_with_David_Letterman_  at least once.

i would appreciate it if anyone could share any information
about this individual with me.  thanks.

ok
dpm
-- 
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              When every one is dead the Great Game is finished.  Not before.
                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"
From: andyl@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew P. Lentvorski Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Ballroom dancing in Philadelphia, PA
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:12:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Hello, again, everybody,

I have received some replies to my queries as to ballroom dancing in 
Pittsburgh, but none to the second half for dancing in Philadelphia.

So, I ask again, where should I go to ballroom dance in Philadelphia
over New Year's (or anytime that weekend).  Surely there is someone reading
the net out there (unless they cut off the news feed)???!!!

This is of interest to several people who have mailed me for a summary, so
it would be nice to have some semi-complete answers for both areas. 

Of course, maybe it's just Western Pennsylvania friendliness making the
other half of the state look so slow. ;-) (Yes, I'm biased.  I say pop.) 

As news reaches UT-Austin so SLOOOOOOWLY, I would appreciate replies sent to
my mailbox (andyl@shiva.ece.utexas.edu); however, I will be watching from
UT and PITT where (I never thought I'd say this) the news is faster.

Thanks,

Andy Lentvorski

andyl@shiva.ece.utexas.edu
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 16:22:32 EST
From: <ROLLINS@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Country-western in Denver

Could anyone recommend CW dance spots in Denver? I'll be
there January 20-28, and would like to go to a place that does
lessons in addition to just a club atmosphere, but either is
fine! Thanks!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: Q2159@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Donna Kemper)
Subject: Re: ballroom dancing in NY
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:28:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.011227.11198@mail.cornell.edu>
Matthew C. Hutcheson <matthew-hutcheson@cornell.edu> writes:
 
>
>In article <24415@alice.att.com> Roberto Pieraccini,
>roberto@alice.att.com writes:
>>We were looking for places with good music and dancing
>>in New York City, possibly for New Year's Eve. Does
>>anybody know where to find a complete list of the
>>nicest places? We could find only a few of them,
>>including Red Blazer Too, S.O.B, Rainbow Room. Suggestions
>>are welcome. We like ballroom dancing, brasilian, latin,
>>rock, almost everything.
>
>   Song of Singapore at 15th and Irving is now the Continental Club.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance