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From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: nuclear Japan
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:41:39 GMT

robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

>Yeah, yeah we USA'ers are supposed to feel guilty about droppin' the boomer.
>Well, if we hadn't done it, the Russkies would have invaded Hokkaido, or
>even the Northern half of Honshu, and Japanese today would be complaining
>about returning the northern half of the country.  Meanwhile, military tensions
>on the Japanese archipelagos would have stifled the economies of both North and
>South Japan, preventing or at least delaying the revolution in consumer
>electronics.  Also, the USSR's economy might have benfefitted considerably.
>Hit teams from North Japan might have assassinated the imperial family & cause 
>all sorts of other non-fun stuff. 


Don't be silly.... if the USA had not dropped the bomb the USSR would not
have declared war against Japan. They only did after the bomb was dropped
inorder to partake of the fruits of victory.

Charlie
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball Movie
Date: 3 Oct 1992 06:42:26 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

I think that Tom Selleck's girlfriend in the movie was supposed to be an
unusual character--many professional women in mass-media jobs are.  I have
known very few Japanese women, particularly graphic artists, who like to keep
their nails long.  She did seem unusually stiff/pretentious, like her
line "Japan imports everything best from the world and makes it hers", 
though i must admire its cultural satire value.  It is a different world from
the space-out land of San Francisco, CA, though growing up on the East
Coast i know people can be that pretentious.  Anyway, the final scence
where she's talking on the cellular on the bleachers next to the blond
bambis/bimbos, i couldn't tell if it was trying to make some kind of
international-politics statement, or if it was just making her look
ridiculously out-of-place among athlete's wives, since i imagine Japanese
baseball athletes don't usually marry slick businesswomen talking on cellulars.
Or maybe they do, hey, the hubby does the batting and the wifey does the
stock/real-estate dealing.

Blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wpm@is.morgan.com (W. Phillip Moore)
Subject: Re: Re : Japan Central League
Organization: Informations Services Dept., Morgan Stanley Japan
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:49:32 GMT


Yajima> There are 130 games in the Japan Central League Season, so the
Yajima> numbers of the remnant games are;

Hanshin Tigers   5
Yakult Swallows  5
Yomiuri Giants   1
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   ^^

Yajima>  Consequently, even if Yomiuri Giants can win the final game, they
Yajima> cannot win the victory in the Central League, and there is no
Yajima> Tigers' magic number yet.

The above numbers are correct, but the main reason why the Giants cannot
win is that of the remaining 5 games the Tigers and Swallows have, 4 are
against each other -- it is therefore impossible for both teams to lose
enough to fall behind the Giants.

I went to two Tigers games last weekend against the Whales -- on Saturday
they looked great beating them 6-0.  This was also the first time I saw
them win -- in 4 years!!  It was my 8th Tigers game...  whew...

Sunday, they lost 5-2, and I seem to be back on my pattern of seeing losing
games.... :-P

The remaining schedule for both teams is:

		6	7	8		10	11

Tigers		X	X	Dragons		O	O
Swallows	O	O	Carp		X	X

O = home game.  (I have tickets to tomorrows game at Jingu 8-)

A one game difference may not seem like much, but the fact that the last
two games are at Koshien (Tigers home stadium) is a tremendous advantage.
Also, the Carp have been playing quite well, and will be hard to beat.  The
Dragons are in 6th place, and although they beat the Tigers twice last
week, the Tigers have dominated them throughout the season.  

Tigers fans have come out in unheard of numbers for their away games (85%
of the fans at Yokohama stadium!!) and you can bet that Koshien will be
packed wall to wall with Yellow megaphones.  (In fact, I'll be in Osaka
that weekend, and I may try to sneak in to the last game.)

Anyone coming to Japan during baseball season is recommended to go to a
Tigers game, especially if you can get tickets to Koshien.  Sit in the
right field stands with the ultra-fanatics, for an experience you will
never forget.  

Sorede, Yajima-san:

Hanshin ha yuusho suruzo!!  Yakult no kuroboshi ha Koshien de tashika
yarou!!  Makeruzo, ome no team!! 8-)

W. Phillip Moore	   				Phone: 81-3-3286-9359
Information Services Department                           FAX: 81-3-3286-9040
Morgan Stanley Japan Ltd.  Tokyo Branch             E-mail: wpm@is.morgan.com
	Ote Center Bldg. 3F, 1-1-3 Otemachi, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100

THE most dedicated Gaijin Tigers fan (I know all 3 verses of Rokko Oroshi
-- do you? 8-)
From: si0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Soshi Iba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:07:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0elex2e00aw3ANUld5
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

OK, let me pull out "Gendai Yougo no Kiso Chishiki '92" from my book
case...  Here is the story.

Koumon Assi Jiken:
Happened in Hyogo prefecture, Kobe Takatsuka High school on July 6,
1990.  The student, Ryoko Ishida (17) who was late for the class, was
caught by the main gate closed by one of the teachers (name not given), 
and died from crushed head.

This is the "fact" part of the story.  I'm not sure if the trial is
still going on against the teacher who closed the gate (forgot his
name!!!  not on the book either), but I've read about this on weekly
magazine that had an article written by the teacher himself.  First of
all, he didn't consider this killing as a murder.  It was an accident. 
There were supposed to be other teachers who checks to make sure nobody
will be crushed by the gate.  But when this accident had happened, there
was only him who was supposed to close the gate on time (he couldn't see
what was happening on the other end of the gate).  After the accident,
he was referred to as a "devil teacher", especially by Hiroshi Kume
(news caster of "NEWS STATION") and other mass medias.  Basically, he
just carried out the procedure set by the school (which was to close the
gate after the morning bell), but many picked on him as a person.

Shortly after the accident, principle of the school was fired (I don't
remember the exact procedure) and this teacher too, was fired.  This
article (which I found in Bungei Shunju - if I remember correctly)
written by the teacher himself, was mostly concerned about the mass
media bully pointed at him and was trying to show that it was a pure
accident (though he showed regret on many part of the writing and was
trying to apologize Miss Ishida's parents).

If you happen to have this article of Bungei Shunju, please correct any
mistake I made from an incorrect memory.... thanks

=============================================
Soshi Iba
(Electrical & Computer Engineering:  Carnegie Mellon University)

e-mail:  iba+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: louis@cs.mcgill.ca (Louis LECLERC)
Subject: Is a Japanese family responsible for the debt of one of its members?
Keywords: debt, family
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:06:27 GMT

I have heard that the family of a Japanese individual is responsible for
the debts that such an individual holds if for some reason he is
unable to pay. Is this true (either legally/ or morally?)?

I also heard that ifsomeone commits suicide by jumping in front of
the train, their family is responsible for a fine (for this individual
doing the jumping in front of the train).


This seems to be very extreme to me, could any of our Japanese
readers (or residents) confirm/dispell these claims?

Thank You;
-Louis Leclerc
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Politics (was Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!))
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:48:11 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <BvHGnH.H2I.1@cs.cmu.edu> jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>lindaa@sooth.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher) writes:
>|> Since he's pretty much told the same story in every show, I suspect he's
>|> got a hidden agenda for his statements (he's very republican...).

>And just what the (*expletive*) is that supposed to mean?
.....
>I do know some about American politics and
>some about things Japan, but apparently not enough to understand your little
>tidbit there.

   OK, we have an election year now here in the US (although I cannot vote).

   I watched the National Conventions and occasionally come across presidential
campaign-related newscast. However, no candidate mentioned anything about
their specific policy regarding the US-Japan relationship explicitly.
(Probably, that topic is not a common interest of the voters.)
The candidates sometimes talk about their tax policy or economic policy in 
general which might have an influence on the relationship between the two 
countries, but none of Bush, Clinton, nor revived Perrot seem to have clearly
expressed their feeling or attitude for or against the Japanese 
economic/industrial extension into the US, let alone their diplomatic policy.

   I wonder what kind of difference could be made in the US-Japan relationship
depending on the result of the election. Is anyone of them more of a
Japan Basher than the other?

Michiaki Masuda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: Kinokunia Book-store
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:57:55 GMT

In article <BvJ7uv.B82@iat.holonet.net>, patric@iat.holonet.net (PATRICK) writes:
|> KINOKUNIYA bookstore in L.A.
|> 
|> 123 Onizuka Street #205
|> Los Angeles,CA  90012-3815
|> 213-687-4480
|> 213-687-4566 FAX
|> 
|> I haven't been there--but from what I have read--I believe it is in the
|> "Little Tokyo" area near downtown. 
|> 
|> Good Luck!  Patrick In San Francisco.
|> 

That one's in Little Tokyo.  Between 1st St and 2nd St, 
nearest cross street would be San Pedro St.  There is another
big bookstore close by, in Yaohan Plaza on Alameda St, between
3rd and 4th streets.  It's inside the Yaohan Plaza, so you
won't be able to see it from the street.  There are large 
bookstores in Gardena as well as smaller ones throughout
LA and Orange Counties.
-- 
Yoke (Yokichi) Tanaka      Togai InfraLogic, Inc.    "fuzzy"
tanaka@til.com             Irvine, California, USA
uunet!til!tanaka           714-975-8522
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: pro baseball as of 1992.09.28
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:09:04 GMT

In article <BvA1It.1A3@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?= ) writes:
>people who take the fun out of baseball (sacrifice bunts:-)
>people who bring excitement to baseball (stolen bases:-)

I heartily agree, though then, one might wonder --
don't the baseball people have any moral AT ALL?
Condemning sacrifice and commending stealth....

-YH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: guod@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu (Dajie Guo)
Subject: Japanese system on Mac
Reply-To: guod@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:13:39 GMT

I am posting for a friend who can't access Internet.
His question is where he can find Japanese system for Macintosh, 
either from ftp sites or companies, and when the system 7.1 of
Mac will come out.
If you like to reply, please send E-mail to me at guod@rpi.edu
directly, I don't read this group quite often.
Thanks in advance.
Dave Guo
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Kinokunia Book-store
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:08:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: tui.SMITTIE.92Oct6130818
	<1992Oct5.175755.17158@til.til.com>
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In Gardena there is:

Kinokuniya at the corner of Van Ness and 182 St.

Tokyo Shoten in Pacific Square which is on Redondo Beach Blvd between
Western and Normandie.

A large bookstore, the name of which I don't remember, in the new
Yoahan shopping center on Western between Sepulveda and Torrance.

smittie
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From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Foreign Ogres (was Mr. Baseball
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:56:10 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> >I wrote:
=> >I have a baby daughter, and she doesn't seem to like strangers
=> >either. She seems to think men are normal when they are big and
=> >have beards, and small women with black hair are also OK. 
=> >Anyone else.... she often cries.

=> In article <1992Oct2.190502.7419@u.washington.edu>,
=> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
=> Research shows small babies react best to people who look most like
=> one of their parents. The further from that you get the more likely
=> the baby is to cry or fuss when being held. For anyone who might try
=> to say that that's *the* definitive reason that all children, not just
=> Japanese children, do this, I'm not sure if it can be used to explain
=> 8-year olds who run screaming into phone booths.

The phone booth incident happened in a rural area, and it's reasonable to
assume that I was the first foreigner that girl had ever seen in person.
So.... what can be used to explain 8 year-olds who run screaming into
phone booths?

- Bill
From: roelandk@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: anti-Yakuza laws: Info wanted
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:32:02 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

I am currently working on a research paper on the Yakuza in Japan and the 
effect of the recent passage of the new anti-Yakuza laws. I am having 
trouble getting a copy of the laws in english, if anybody knows a source 
where I can get this from I would really appreciate it. Thanks-
		Roelandk@yang.earlham.edu
From: elt@mutei.Princeton.EDU (Ed Turner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:08:58 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

I have seen many examples of both Japanese children being frightened by or
avoiding foreigners (including me) and of their going far out of their way
to be friendly and make contact with them.  It does not seem very different
than the behavior of children in (the several) other parts of the world
I have visited to me.  On the other hand, the attitude of Japanese adults
toward my children was quite different.  I have never been anywhere,
including the US, where people were so interested in, considerate of, and
generally kind to my children as in Japan.


Ed Turner			"Toshidoshi ya
				 saru ni kisetaru
				 saru no men."

elturner@astro.princeton.edu            - Basho 1694
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:05:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct2.190502.7419
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <7316@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>
>But also, I found that many kids are attracted, and want to say
>"hello" to the big and obvious 4nr. They really enjoy if I play
>ball with them, show them pictures, and so on. 

Okay, it's a perfect time to go on record saying there are plenty
of these kids too. Fun loving kids who like a good time and some
adventure. Remember my followup was only to dispute the idea that
the story Tom Selleck was telling was false or that it was not common.
It was probably not false and is definitely common.

I've noticed a few components in who is likely to freak out a Japanese
child: someone large (usually male), often with facial hair, often of
non-Japanese color (black skin, blond hair, fair skin, blue eyes, name
it), who likes children and often attempts to make eye contact with or
smile at them.

>I have a baby daughter, and she doesn't seem to like strangers
>either. She seems to think men are normal when they are big and
>have beards, and small women with black hair are also OK. 
>Anyone else.... she often cries.

Research shows small babies react best to people who look most like
one of their parents. The further from that you get the more likely
the baby is to cry or fuss when being held. For anyone who might try
to say that that's *the* definitive reason that all children, not just
Japanese children, do this, I'm not sure if it can be used to explain
8-year olds who run screaming into phone booths.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: 'Sushi' boy (follow up)
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:06:28 GMT

In article <1anj0vINNg3c@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
|> 
|>    By the way, I heard that 'Sushi' boy is planning to import the frozen
|>    meet bowl (Gyu^don) now.
|> 
|>    ********************************
|>    *      Hirokatsu Watanabe      *
|>    *------------------------------*
|>    * Mo^karimakka?  Sapparidesuwa *
|>    *        Maido Ookini          *
|>    ********************************
|> 
|>    Oh, good!  Maybe Yoshinoya will start serving better beef for a change...
|>    beyond Matzuzakaya/Kobe beef, most Japanese beef SUCKS.
|> 

What!??  You've never had Yoshinoya here in the US?  It still SUCKS!
-- 
Yoke (Yokichi) Tanaka      Togai InfraLogic, Inc.    "fuzzy"
tanaka@til.com             Irvine, California, USA
uunet!til!tanaka           714-975-8522
In case you're wondering ... I am male.
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From: 6500ursa@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Disco Junkie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:11:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.150858.521@Princeton.EDU> elt@mutei.Princeton.EDU (Ed Turner) writes:

>On the other hand, the attitude of Japanese adults
>toward my children was quite different.  I have never been anywhere,
>including the US, where people were so interested in, considerate of, and
>generally kind to my children as in Japan.

Brings up an interesting story.  While in Hiroshima in 1987, I met this
blonde girl about 6 years old.  She spoke no Japanese, but knew only a
few words.  She was very curious as to the meaning of the word 'kawaii'.
I was curious as to how she learned this word, and she said that whenever 
she went to a department store, or some other public place, Japanese people 
would always look at her and say "kawaii" and then always pat her on the head
and ruffle her blonde hair, something which she did not like.  She even 
managed to mimic the intonation of the word "kawaii", the way most Japanese 
women would say it.  I laughed and taught her how to say "yamete" whenever 
people were to pat her on the head.

Disco Junkie

(for those of you non-Japanese speakers: Kawaii means "cute".  Yamete means
"stop it")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wicklund@intellistor.com (Tom Wicklund)
Subject: Re: RAID 7 Storage Systems-- Japan R&D status?
Organization: Intellistor, Inc.
Followups:  comp.arch.storage
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:40:39 GMT

Before asking the status of RAID 7, wait for the term to be defined.
RAID 7 is not part of the original RAID taxonomy that Berkeley
defined.  Their RAID 7 is a modified Berkeley RAID 4, with the RAID 7
definition a marketing ploy to say why their implementation of the
RAID 4 architecture is superior.

Further followups should probably go to comp.arch.storage.
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: girl that dies in school gate
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:05:15 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

wilson0189@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>        I am looking for some information about a story in mid to late 1989 or
>early to mid 1990. Appartently a young middle school girl was late for class in
>Kobe one day. The gate was closing to the school enterance, and the girl tried
>to rush through, but didn't make it.
>        I have a friend that is looking for information on this story for an
>article. Any info on time, names, places to look would be greatly appreciated.

When it happened, it was in all the papers. Then it died down until
the guy who did it was brought to trial (I think). Anyway, you could
probably get what you want by writing somebody like The Daily
Yomiuri, 1-7-1 Otemachi, Chiyoda-ku Tokyo 100-55. They've sent me
stuff before for the price of a self-addressed stamped envelope.

BTW, they have the same kind of gate at the JHS near where I live
but they don't shut it. They just have a teacher standing there to
scold those who are late.

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball (Again!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 04:39:28 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

The 4ner complex--I can testify for that.  As a young man walking alone,
when I enter stores or restaurants, I do notice that people seem kind of 
defnsive.  It was like the treatment I would get in the US were I a 
black man doing the same thing.  One time in Kanda, Tokyo, a woman did 
clearly run from me into a parking lot building, and another time in Kanda,
the hotel told me that there's no bathing facilities in the hotel (and
there turned out to be an onsen in the basement).

BTW, Linda, it's the republicans who support free trade, so I'd imagine
if anything it's the Democrats who want protectionism by bashing foreign
countries.
From: miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: nuclear Japan
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:56:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: acuson.1992Sep29.145655.8625
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

>Wasn't there a Todai professor who was doign some research on the bomb during
>WW2, who blew himself up?

	Hirohito himself had patronized the experimental research
	you refer to.  A 38-year old Physicist named Odan and some
	technicians were blown up in what was probably a chemical
	explosion due to carelessness under pressure to get a bomb
	working before the US invaded.  The explosion demolished
	several buildings, just a few months before the US dropped 
	their own bombs.

	An interesting alternate history; what if Japan had gotten
	the bomb first?  Would we now be treated to Japanese
	expressions of sorrow and guilt at the nuking of San Francisco
	and Seattle?  Given the character of the Japanese government
	at the time, I sort of doubt it.

	- Michael Goldman

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