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From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: AUSTIN-SFO-AUSTIN Ticket for Sale - GREAT Price!
Date: 15 Aug 1992 13:38:36 -0700
Organization: Fathers' Rights & Equality Exchange
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NOTE:  I am posting this for a friend.  Please reply directly to him.
He is VERY fair, and I am helping him by posting this because I was
unable to take the tickets from him after telling him that I would [so
I feel pretty badly]:

From: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)

Round trip ticket on American Airlines for sale:  

     Leave San Antonio   ~7AM  Saturday, 5 September
     Return San Francisco ~8AM Saturday, 12 September

Asking $100 firm.  I'll take care of the boarding passes (must
be a male traveller).  Reply to this posting if interested.

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From: Bob_Sidebotham@transarc.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Correction (male): For sale: LA to Pittsburgh, Sept 1
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:55:58 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Sorry, wrong ticket. The ticket that is being sold is for a *male*
traveller, not female as previously advertised. (Actually, the name is
"Chris, Mr.").

TWA. Leave LA on Tuesday, September 1st at 1:20pm
 1 hour layover in St. Louis.
Arrives Pittsburgh at 10:40pm.

*male* traveler

$100.

Email to bob@transarc.com or call 412-338-4367, M-F.

Bob Sidebotham
From: grob@opera.chorus.fr (Lori Grob)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: TRAVEL FROM CHARLES DE GAULLE TO ORLY AIRPORT (PARIS)
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:27:09 GMT
Reply-To: grob@chorus.fr
Organization: Chorus systemes, 6 av. Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, France

In article <SJONES.92Aug17214908@beach.csulb.edu>, sjones@beach.csulb.edu (Steven Jones) writes:
%% If I remember correctly...AIR FRANCE has buses that connect the two Paris
%% airports.  I have used these buses to get from ORLY to the center of Paris,
%% and fouj found them quite nice (beter than the city bus system and faster
%% than the metro).  
%% Suggest calling AIR FRANCE and asking.
%% Good Luck.....Paris IS GREAT!
%% 
%% Steven Jones, Seal Baeach, California
%% sjonesbeach
%% sjones@beach.csulb.edu

The Air France buses are faster than the metro only if 
you don't get stuck in traffic. They are certainly very 
convenient and if you can arrange to be well in advance
of your flight they work great. However the one time that
you cut it to close you will find yourself sitting on the
peripheric too long.

For the person wanting to get from CDG or Roissy as its actually
called here to Orly, either the AirFrance Bus or a taxi seem
to be your choices. Which one I would take would depend on
how fast you get your luggage and clear customs. 

If you are taking AF all the way through probably they will
check your luggage through from the starting  point which
will save some time, although not guarantee the luggage gets 
through.

-- 
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Chorus syste`mes			phone +33-1-30-64-82-17
6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines	email grob@chorus.fr	
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From: edelheit@smiley.mitre.org (Jeff Edelheit)
Subject: Re: AIR CANADA - UNITED AIRLINES DEAL
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:24:12 GMT

Regards,

Jeff Edelheit		email:  edelheit@mitre.org
The MITRE Corporation	voice:  (703) 883-7586
7525 Colshire Drive	FAX:	(703) 883-1397
McLean, VA   22102
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: COMPASS AIRLINE (Australia) FLYING ONCE MORE...
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:33:41 GMT

In article <l8ij9cINNsbl@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.083926.89724@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, arc113h@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Chris Leong) writes:
> |> Just a note:
> |> 
> |> COMPASS AIRLINES (Australia's domestic rebel airline) which went into
> |> liquidation last Christmas, WILL be operational commencing August 31st, 1992.
> 
> "liquidation" must mean something different in Australia
> than it does in the U.S.!   Here it means that you've sold
> off all the assets in pieces to various creditors, and there's
> no way it can continue operating after that.

It was liquidated and "wound up".  Kaput!

The new Compass is owned by Southern Cross Airlines Pty Ltd.  They bought
the Compass name and logo.

Rod
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From: kcd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Karen Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: selling/changing name on Int'l ticket
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: kcd@flash.ece.uc.edu
Organization: University of Cincinnati, ECE DEPT

I bought non-refundable tickets to Frankfurt, Germany, and now it turns
out that my husband can't come with me on the trip.  The tickets are
on Delta, Oct. 14-25.

My travel agent says that it is illegal for me to sell this ticket to
someone else, and even if I give it away the recipient won't be allowed
to board the plane because the passport name and ticket name will be
different.

I can't believe that I'm going to have to swallow an airline ticket.
Does anyone else have any advice or experience with a similar situation?
Please help.

karen.davis@uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: SJ to JAX tix
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:48:53 GMT

These tickets are no longer available...
Thanks to those folks who showed interest.
TKJ
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

Posting for a friend - E-mail replies to:
                     L620732@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
                     (Note: He's off for the day, responses to
                      your e-mail will be on Mon. 8/10 earliest)

FOR SALE: 2 Roundtrip tickets  --> $420
          San Jose, CA -> Jacksonville, FLA
          1 male name, 1 female

          (Prefer to sell as a pair but
            will consider otherwise)

(mail accidently sent to me will be forwarded)
From: kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Delta Standby Travel Voucher
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:56:20 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

>Question: are the Delta standby vouchers and other such tickets (e.g.
>Visit USA etc.) that have to be purchased abroad in conjunction with
>a ticket to the US eligible for frequent flyer miles???

At least for the Visit USA tickets, I know that they're not eligible for FF
miles, period.  (Still a great deal for certain itineraries though)  So
Americans don't feel bad! :)  However they have screwed up and given people
FF miles accidentally in the past.  I suspect the same holds for the Delta
vouchers.
From: gwr@tantalum.eds.com (George Rapp)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: About that earlier flight on Southwest ...
Keywords: ... fuhgedaboudit!
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:53:39 GMT
Reply-To: gwr@edsr.eds.com
Followup-To: poster
Organization: EDS Research

(My earlier post was entitled "SWA - How to get on an earlier flight".)

A brief postscript to my Southwest experience:

As expected, they refused to give me a seat on an earlier flight.  (The
counter clerk got off the hook by saying that her supervisor wouldn't
authorize it.)  In their favor, they were badly overbooked all day out
of Chicago, so it didn't really surprise me that I was refused.  I
bought another ticket, just to avoid staying overnight in Chicago.

Moral of the story: You can depend on Southwest for good customer
service most of the time, but if you're trying to get on a flight that
you're not ticketed for, you will in all likelihood be refused.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

---
George Rapp                              Electronic Data Systems Corporation
EDS Research                             7171 Forest Lane, C212
(UUCP: uunet!edsr!midearthmail!gwr)      Dallas, Texas  75230   214/661-6478
(Internet: gwr@edsr.eds.com or edsr!gwr@uunet.uu.net)

(Opinions expressed above are those of the author only, not the 
author's employer, management, or car repairperson.)
From: gwr@tantalum.eds.com (George Rapp)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: SWA - How to get on an earlier flight
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:08:12 GMT
Reply-To: gwr@edsr.eds.com
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Organization: EDS Research

I'm hoping to draw on the vast and awesome experience represented in
this group ...

Situation parameters:

1) Southwest Airlines, DAL (Dallas Love Field) -> MDW (Chicago Midway)
   round-trip, stopover in TUL (Tulsa) both ways because of ...

2) The (@$#*&!@ing) Wright Amendment, a piece of legislation passed to
   protect Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) International Airport from 
   competition from tiny Love Field.  (Fort Worth loves it, Dallas hates
   it, I hate it.  8^)  The Wright Amendment prohibits flights originating
   at Love Field from destinations in states other than Texas and its
   bordering neighbors (i.e., TX, AR, LA, NM, OK).  Thus, the Tulsa 
   stopover is necessary.

3) Tickets say I'm on 6:30am Monday flight.  My business concludes on 
   Sunday morning in Madison, Wisconsin, so I could conceivably fly out
   of Midway any time after, say, 1:00pm on Sunday.  In fact, I'd like
   to do this, since (I'm told) the neighborhood surrounding Midway 
   Airport is, uh, less than lovely, and thus I don't want to stay
   overnight there if I can avoid it.

4) I got the tickets during a fare sale, and at that time the Monday 
   morning flight was the only one available - nothing on Sunday at all.
   (Given the restrictions, that's not surprising - because it's a
   roundtrip, I have to go through the same city going out and returning,
   so two flights must be available.)  So, getting an earlier flight
   through the reservations number seems improbable.  

   I don't suspect SWA would complain about changing the tickets - 
   they're normally quite permissive about allowing ticket changes.  
   So, the only problem would seem to be flight availability.

My questions:

- If I wanted to get an earlier flight time, would I be better off to
call SWA reservations and beg them, which hasn't worked so far, or just
show up at MDW on Sunday and hope to fly standby?  I know I'd have to
repeat the same drill in Tulsa if I did fly standby - that's OK.

- Is this a usual practice - by that I mean people who want to move up
their flight times for one reason or another?  Any experienced SWA
travelers want to take a guess as to how the SWA people will react to
this, or if they can even do it?

Replies via email, please, unless you feel the group would benefit from
the information.  Thanks muchly in advance.


---
George Rapp                              Electronic Data Systems Corporation
EDS Research                             7171 Forest Lane, C212
(UUCP: uunet!edsr!midearthmail!gwr)      Dallas, Texas  75230   214/661-6478
(Internet: gwr@edsr.eds.com or edsr!gwr@uunet.uu.net)
From: mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Mitja Baumhackl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Question about computer carry-on
Date: 13 Aug 1992 17:18:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu

I have a question about bringing a computer on a flight as carry-on luggage.
(Yes, I will check with the airline and ask about their policies, but I
want to know if anyone has had problems despite the policies).

I would like to bring the CPU of my IBM clone as carry-on luggage from
SF-NYC.  I'm afraid that if I check it in, the hard drive will get knocked,
and I'd like to have it with me when I arrive instead of sending it
by UPS or something.  A friend of mine recently traveled with METAL luggage
and got it back with a massive dent...

The question:  1)  Will I have any problems bringing it past security?
and 2) will the xray machine zap my drive?  What can I do besides make
tons of backups on floppies?

thanks

mitja@hera.berkeley.edu

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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Delta Standby Travel Voucher
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:47:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.190805.19913@odin.corp.sgi.com> stantz@sgi.com (Mark Stantz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.154624.23416@athena.mit.edu> davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun) writes:
>>I am thinking about buying a 30 day Delta standby travel voucher.
>>In Germany, they are currently sold for DM 799.- (~ US$ 540) which
>>I think is incredibly cheap. (You can also buy a 60 day voucher for
>>1399.-)
>
>	What is the deal with these?

They are not sold, I believe, within the US and require a foreign passport.
In other words, flight passes like this within the US is for foreigners.

Either Hawaiian or Aloha has flight passes though for US citizens.
American used to have a flight pass.  The "flyjox" Tom Joyner, who does a
morning radio show in Dallas, and then flies EVERY DAY to do an afternoon
show in Chicago, and then flies back to Dallas, had an AA pass.  It allowed
unlimited first class travel for a few years.  I think it broke down to
$40,000-$50,000 per year.  AA discontinued that pass last year.

--Ken

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Things to make flying more comfortable
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:42:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.062851.858@cs.cornell.edu> rvinluan@cs.cornell.edu (Rolando Vinluan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.041938.13389@ads.com>, charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>|> Actually, I thought the airline did a good job but was less than thrilled
>|> with my fellow passengers.  I only got to sit with my travelling companion
>|> on one of four flights, in part because someone else was sitting in our
>|> assigned seats and refused to move ("they screwed up our seating assignments,
>|> we got here first, now go away" seems to be the attitude).  On another flight,
>|> someone stole my blanket and pillow when I went up front to check with the
>|> flight attendants.  Geez.
>
>	You really should have insisted to the flight attendants. Was it really
>such a full flight that you couldn't move somehwere else?

Yep.  Summer fare wars, remember?

Heck, the flight attendants don't care.  They're used to seeing duplicate
boarding passes.  They just want you to sit down and shut up.

Charleen

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From: usmalik@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Anchorage, Alaska info needed
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:26:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: memstvx1.1992Aug19.142618.3073
Organization: Memphis State University

Hi,

I will be travelling to Anchorage, Alaska on the 28th of August for 3 days and
I would like to know about hotels with reasonable rates to stay and what there
is to see in Anchorage.  I do not know anything about Anchorage and I would
appreciate if someone would tell me some of the site seeing areas of Anchorage.
I don't think I have enough time to get the chamber of commerce to send me 
some brouchoures (sp?).

Would appreciate the help.
MM
Memphis, TN
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Northwest (was Re: Things to make flying more comfortable)
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:00:46 GMT
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

glockner-gregory@CS.YALE.EDU (Gregory Glockner) wrote: 
->FYI: Things have changed in this respect at Northwest.  When I interned
->last summmer at NWA's management, I was subjected to a drug test.  I
->was also fingerprinted.  (I'm told that they no longer fingerprint).
->Pilots were given alcohol tests as well as drug tests.

this is a good reason to *not* fly northwest ... drug tests for
everyone as they walk in the door is not only useless, but an invasion
of personal privacy.

--
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From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: TRIP TO AUSTRALIA planned.. I hope.
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:42:12 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

In article <1992Aug19.172255.10970@watson.ibm.com>, royle@highland.manassas.ibm.com (Matthew Royle x4553 highland) writes:
> 
> 
>   Hello there, first off I would like to thank the person that posted all
> the information about australia a while back, but I unfortunately cannot
> remember who it was.  Also, I would like to ask anyone out there about the
> same questions, i.e. what can I look for as far as fares to get there,
> accomodations and the like.  I ask this again only under the assumption that
> possibly some of that information is outdated, if not then please dont beat
> me senseless for wasting bandwidth.
> 
>   What I know is, a friend and I plan to make a trip to australia early in
>  1993, (before march) and do not have endless supplies of cash. Both of us
>  are students and thus hope that student fairs are still available.  We would
>  be staying for about a week, and would like to see more of the land than
>  the sea. (the rain forests, etc...)  Does anyone know much about this?


The biggest thing to remember about Australia is that it is BIG.  It's about
the same size as the USA with only 17,000,000 paople in it.  Thus you can
encounter some big open spaces.  For instance some friends from Canada came to
stay with me and thought they could get a day trip to Ayers Rock from Adelaide. 
They didn't realise that the distance on the map corresponded to a 2 day bus
drive.  Some of our costs are pretty steep, but thats made up for by the
priceof things like food and so on.  When I went to England they could not
believe that we ate steak as a rule and not the exception and I almost died
when they tried to charge me some horrendous price for a tiny bit of meat that
I'd give my dog over here....

Biggest tourist spots are the Gold coast / cairns area in Qld where they have a
huge number of people going on rainforest toursetc each year.  Take in the
scuba diving as well if it interests you, it leaves the Florida Keys for dead. 
There are lots of well appointed tourist info centres all over Qld and they
really are helpful.  NSW and Melbourne and SA aren't all that geared for
youngertourists, they have more things like wineries museums and the other
"cultured " stuff that attracts older tourists.  Go on a winery tour and taste
some of the best wines in the world in Victoria (hunter valley) and South
Australia (the Barossa Valley)

Backpackers Hostels charge about $10 Australian per night so there is no
problem there.  They are spread well around Australia so you will have no
hassles.

The only problem I can see is that you'll only be here for a week.  In that
time you can make a couple of tours (most of the worthwhile ones are 2 days or
longer) to some of the features but you need a lot longer than that to really
get anywhere in this place.  If I had to come to the US for a week how well do
you think I'd go in terms of seeing all it has to offer?

regs

Rob
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Flying on New Year's Eve
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:11:19 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

David Frank <frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za> writes:

	Does anyone have any experience of flying on B.A. at midnight
	on New Year's Eve (London to Johannesburg, if that makes any
	difference)... like, is it a major party is it just like flying
	on any other overnight flight?

Last year I was on United EWR->SFO on New Year's Eve, but we landed
around 11pm ... bummer!  But, I flew TWA JFK->LHR a few years back on
Halloween night, and a few of the F/As were in costumes!  They passed
out candy in back ...

/jordan
From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Roundtrip(*2):San Jose,CA->Jacksonville,FLA
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:56:07 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

Posting for a friend - E-mail replies to:
                     L620732@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
                     (Note: He's off for the day, responses to
                      your e-mail will be on Mon. 8/10 earliest)

FOR SALE: 2 Roundtrip tickets  --> $420
          San Jose, CA -> Jacksonville, FLA
          1 male name, 1 female

          (Prefer to sell as a pair but
            will consider otherwise)

(mail accidently sent to me will be forwarded)
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Northwest (was Re: Things to make flying more comfortable)
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:38:10 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <1992Aug18.151208.24650@cs.yale.edu> glockner-gregory@CS.YALE.EDU (Gregory Glockner) writes:
>
>FYI: Things have changed in this respect at Northwest.  When I interned
>last summmer at NWA's management, I was subjected to a drug test.  I
>was also fingerprinted.  (I'm told that they no longer fingerprint).
>Pilots were given alcohol tests as well as drug tests.

When?  When they're hired, periodically, or before every flight?  Do
employees know about them in advance, or are they surprise tests?

I'm not much comforted that management gets drug-tested.  It's the
folk who fly the big silver birds that I worry about.  I was told by
an American Airlines captain that "no pilot would risk losing his license
by drinking before a flight."  Obviously this isn't true; an entire
Northwest flight crew went on a binge that makes fraternity drinking
look like a tea party.

Charleen

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