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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:14:00 EDT
From:         ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET
Subject:      "Acting hearing" (was: Slang, fluency and translation)

To Randy Gentry <rggentry@GALLUA.GALLAUDET.EDU>:

Okay, we can discuss the economic aspects of deaf education some other
time (and presumably under a different subject header than "Slang,
etc.", which has already carried four different threads by my count).
Right now, I'm very curious about something else.

In your first, long message to me you said something about "acting
hearing" (or something very similar -- "pretending to be hearing"?
Unfortunately I've lost the message) for much of your life. In a
recent message to Miriam Clifford you struck the same note again:

     ...As a hard of hearing person who spent the first 25
     years of his life passing as hearing...

What do you mean by "passing as hearing" and by "acting hearing" (or
whatever words you used)?

--David James
ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET
DMJAMES@GALLUA.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:20:00 -0700
From:         "Bryce Carey, CNS,
              Admin. Sys. Group" <CAREY_B@CUBLDR.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ? Why ?

A Quick answer to why a PC cannot talk to a TDD.

The modem tones used by the TDD standard are 1400 Hz and 1800 Hz
the bell 103 modem tones are quite different. Therefore a regular
computer modem cannot "hear" the tones from the TDD and vice versa.

The second "gotcha" is that the bit rate used by the TDD is 45.45 bits/second
Yes, that is 45 point 45 bits/sec. The usual computer serial port
software and hardware will not drop below 50 bits/sec and many
terminal packages I have seen lately assume that no one goes any slower
than 300 Bits/sec. Standard modem speeds nowadays are 2400 Bits/sec
and a standard modem card now can be had for under $40.

The Third "gotcha" is that the TDD communicates in a 5 bit code
American Telegraph Code Number 2 (also and incorrectly called "Baudot"
in the TDD community). The standard computer code is 8 bit ASCII
(American Standard Code for Information Interchange). Most IBM PC
serial ports can be programmed to communicate with 5 bit code but
it is not a common feature of most software terminal emulators.

That said, you can indeed use a PC to call a TDD if you buy a modem
that generates and recieves the correct tones and also has the
software to communicate via 5 bit code at 45.45 BPS.

Such modems cost from $290 on up. There is nothing special about
the TDD design, it just uses a real old Telegraph standard for the
data communications protocol, and Dr. Robert Weitbrecht,
the inventor of the TDD modem, used non-standard tone pairs for
two reasons: A) the Bell system was a monopoly at that time and
did not like people using "Their" tones. B) The tone pair selected
for the TDD was easier to detect with fairly low cost components
back in 1960 when the TDD modem was invented.

As a matter of fact it is perfectly possible to wire up a TDD tone
modem from about $20 in Radio shack parts. It's quite something else
to go on the market and try to sell these things. There are regulations
that need to be complied with that can be expensive to meet, (just
red tape costs) plus all the problems of packaging and marketing
to a specialized and minor market. The low cost ASCII computer modems
are built and sold by the tens of thousands, thus getting economies
of scale.

This is the short answer. I hope this helps.

-Bryce
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:53:13 EDT
From:         "Stephen J. Kotchen" <CASK@CATCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Where is Lew Galon??
X-To:         DEAF-L%SIUCVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

 I have been on Deaf-L pretty long and I noticed Lew is slowly vanished.
Is he Deaf-L dropped out?  If not, come on let Lew Galon of shell.
Where have Lew been?  We missed you!!

-Stephen
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From: rggentry@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re:      Re: Slang, fluencey and translation
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:50:04 GMT

In article <9207240214.AA18305@sorak.kaist.ac.kr>,         KAERI Kim YongChe <yckim@SORAK.KAIST.AC.KR> writes:
> Randy Gentry -
> 
> Now that the signature problem has been cleared, I think, I may say this.
> The incidence gave me real confusion and then a big laughter.
> Imagine a boxer doing one-man-show!
> 
> Yong Che Kim <yckim@sorak.kaist.ac.kr>

>>I am properly chastised and embarrassed. I hope I did not cause too much
confusion or consternation for other net users :). And my apologies again to
Mr. James for any problems I may have caused him because of the lack of
signature.

Randy Gentry RGGENTRY@GALLUJ
"Anything that can be done, can be done backwards."

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:13:21 EDT
From:         Paul Daniels <LND@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Answers (irrelevant issue)

> I major in Computer Engineering and I am using interpreters for all of
> my classes.  You stated that you received help from Dept. of Disabled
> Students... I believe that you mean the Rehabilitation Building, on
> Oak and Stadium (if you remember the streets around here)...
>
> Back in '74, you used VOLUNTEER interpreters?  I may be wrong, but didn't
> Section 504 (of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973) require that interpreters
> should be provided.  Another question that I have is... Did the University
> give you a hard time in obtaining interpreters or other help?  I'm just
> wondering if Section 504 was ignored at that time.
>
> You are in D.C.?  Cool!  I will be at Gally (Gallaudet University) this
> fall as a visiting student (for one semester) and we might run into each
> other???  Maybe?
>                                 David (djk59109@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)

Wonder if you will continue using this BITNET after u enroll Gallaudet
U.? They do have their own network known as VAX, so that u can continue
using DEAF-L. Keep me posted when u move to the DC area; will u live
off campus?
Paul Daniels
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:47:50 EDT
From:         Esther Paris <esther@DEMAND.ED.RAY.COM>
Subject:      response to wonderful responses re my question

Just a quick note, since I'm in the middle of something both fun
and challenging... Thanks to everyone who has responded to my
question about attitude.  I have appreciated both the private and
the public responses very much.  I'll try to worry less... But it's
hard to break such habits, don't you know?  Anyway, because Seth
asked, the lecturer was a Psychologist whose practice is with both
deaf and hearing clients.  Interesting, eh?  Also, I guess it's time
for me to re-read _The_Screwtape_Letters_... it's been a long time
since I've read them.  I'm not a big Orwell fan, but I'll try to
look up notes on nationalism.  (Orwell is the author, right?)
[[ I told you my memory is worthless unless someone's paying me
   to remember something! ]]

Well, got to go and "work on demand"!

Esther Paris, Raytheon Equipment Division, Marlborough, MA
esther@demand.ed.ray.com
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:43:08 EDT
From:         "Stephen J. Kotchen" <CASK@CATCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Where is Lew Galon??
X-To:         DEAF-L%SIUCVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

> Perhaps we're simply
> too boring for him....  ;>

Maybe you are right.  I have wondered too...
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:40:46 EDT
From:         "Stephen J. Kotchen" <CASK@CATCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Please unsubscribe
X-To:         DEAF-L%SIUCVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

To sign off this send the following message to LISTERV%SIUCMB.BITNET:

"SIGNOFF DEAF-L"

Note that you need to send this command to the LISTERV, not to DEAF-L



> I'm sorry but I seem unable to unsub automatically; can a list administrator
> please remove me from the mailing list? Thank you for your help. Steve Deyo
>
> 70451.2545@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:17:00 EDT
From:         ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Slang, fluency and translation

To <rggentry@GALLUA.GALLAUDET.EDU>:

Once again you inadvertently reinforced some of my points
in trying to rebut them, but I see little reason for the
two of us continuing to talk past each other.

Nevertheless I have a small favor to ask:

PLEASE PUT YOUR OWN NAME AT THE BOTTOMS OF YOUR POSTS.

Both of _your_ responses to me so far have ended with
_my_ names and addresses. The confusion this could cause
is annoying, to say the least.

--David James
ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET
DMJAMES@GALLUA.BITNET
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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: Hello! :)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 03:54:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Hey
Keywords: Hey!

Move over, deafies -- I'm a deafie myself --

A Gallaudet senior computer science student -- 

Hello!

- Scott Steinbrink

-- 
NetCom: Derich@netcom.com
CompuServe: 76106.2055@CompuServe.Com
America Online: Derichman

Paranoid schizophrenics outnumber their enemies at least two to one.
"Deaf people can do anything except hear" - I. King Jordan
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:16:56 EDT
From:         David Andrew Vaughan <CPTL_L050656@DMMS1.DNET.GE.COM>
Subject:      Getting your second opinion...
X-To:         deaf-l%siucvmb.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

    My wife lost her right ear to the mumps when she was a child.  After we
were married, I asked her to see if she qualified for any state disabled
benefits.  We started going through the procedures with the Vocational
Rehabilitation Center back in December.  Can someone tell me if it is normal to
wait this long for decision?  Are there other organizations that offer some
type of benefit to the hearing impaired?

    Also, more recently, her left ear has begun to fluctuate.  The doctor put
her on some kind of steroid in July and her hearing was restored.  However,
last Sunday it happened again.  A test showed a 30-40db loss.  She's back on
medication but is concerned.  How valuable is it to get a second opinion on
such matters?

    Any information you can provide regarding these matters would be greatly
appreciated.  Thank you in advance for your response.

David Andrew Vaughan
Associate Consultant
GE Consulting Services
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:03:00 MET
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              langues@uquebec.BITNET, gaelic-l@irlearn.BITNET,
              humanist@brownvm.BITNET, xcult-l@psuvm.BITNET,
              lantra-:". Rest of header flushed.
From:         "Norval Smith (UVAALF::NSMITH)" <NSMITH@ALF.LET.UVA.NL>
Subject:      Linguists' Nameserver
X-To:         deaf-l@siucvmb.BITNET, words-l@uga.BITNET,
              esper-l@trearn.BITNET, ethno@rpie.BITNET

MESSAGE FROM THE LINGUISTS' NAMESERVER

As many of you will know, for the last two years or so a Nameserver for
Linguists, Psycholinguists, Phoneticians, Computer Linguists and other
workers in the Language and Speech Sciences has been available at
LINGUISTS@ALF.LET.UVA.NL.
        There are now about 6500 addresses in the database, representing
the e-mail addresses of about 4000 persons and institutions. In addition
we have recently started recording the FAX addresses of institutions.
        Obviously a list such as this is subject to rapid degradation in
quality, as people shift from one institution to another, computer systems
are altered and so on. To ensure that the list remains up to date, and
reasonably complete, we rely on the cooperation of the people on the list itself
to inform us of changes to their own e-mail addresses and those of others.
        There are some kind souls who keep us up to date on all the relevant
people at their own institutions, or the people they are regularly in contact
with, but in general we rely on individuals to tell us about their own
addresses.
        This is a reminder to people who have changed e-mail addresses in the
last year to tell us about this, and to others who did not know of our
existence to provide us with their addresses. If your address is in the list
incorrectly, it may well cause delay to people who want to contact you.
        This message is being sent to all the language-related discussion
groups we know of, plus the local distribution relay addresses of the
LINGUIST discussion list. This may mean that you get this message two or more
times. Try not to get irritated with us.
        To check whether your name is on our list, send the message (subject
line irrelevant):

list SURNAME
(replace SURNAME with your own surname)

to:
linguists@alf.let.uva.nl

You should then get back the entry if any which the Nameserver has for you.
        If the entry is wrong you have to REMOVE the wrong entry, and ADD the
correct one. Let us say the wrong entry is:

        william carmichael: carm@sun202.ptmoresby.pg

and you want to replace it with:

        william j carmichael: wjc@marriage-buro.reno.nv.us

Then you require to send the following instructions:

remove carmichael, william: carm@sun202.ptmoresby.pg
add carmichael, william j: wjc@marriage-buro.reno.nv.us

Your entry will now be correct.

NB. There is a help message. To get it send:

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Norval Smith
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 23:02:03 EDT
From: <GHADSAL@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.deaf-l
Subject: ? Why ?

I gotta stupid question, I know I know;  Why cant a TDD terminal connect to a P
C BBS or PC Directly ?

I have used the MD Relay and would rank it high in quality of service, however
why doesnt some develop a package such that my idle PC could be used as a
FAX server and also an incoming TDD server ?

Also, do TDD users use other electronic mediums; Internet, Compu$erve, etc ?
---
---
Guy Hadsall
Dept. of Health and Fitness        . o        c ,
The American Univeristy             "#v--  --v#"
Washington, DC                      /'>      <`\

ghadsal@auvm.american.edu
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Organization: NERDC, U of Fl, 904-392-4601
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:18:31 EDT
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From:         "Jack Schudel (SCHUDEL@NERVM)" <SCHUDEL@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Troubles: TeX/CMD <--> 3820/3827 laser printers

On Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:43:26 BSC Humberto Jose' Bortolossi said:
>Greetings.
>
>    Our university was install TeX at our 3090/VM.ESA IBM machine. However,
>we are getting troubles and I hope you can help us, please.
>
>    Our laser printers are: 3820 and 3827. We got the first tape ot TeX so
>we needed to generate all fonts. We did this following the steps:
>
> <<< much deleted >>>

>APRLFN349S CHARACTER SET C0R12 FONT3820 WAS NOT FOUND

Check to make sure that C0R12 FONT3820 really is there.

On our system (MVS), there was a problem when we upgraded from an old
PSF to the current one.  In the old one the FONT members had various
(non-zero) characters in the second character position.
We had to rename the members to set the second character to zero to get
PSF to work correctly with our 3820 printer.

In your specific case, our system came with CMR12 instead of C0R12.

Good luck.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:03:12 BSC
              <PAGE-L@UCF1VM.BITNET>
From:         Humberto Jose' Bortolossi <HJBORTOL@BRFUEM.BITNET>
Subject:      More troubles ...
Comments: To: PAGE-L <page-l@ucf1vm.BITNET>,
              TEX-IBM <tex-ibm@dhdurz1.BITNET>,
              Dean Guenther <guenther@wsuvm1.BITNET>,
              Oded <p84021@barilvm.BITNET>,
              Nelson Simoes <nelson@rdc.puc-rio.br>

Hi there|

    A member of PAGE-L mailing list suggests me to change name of CMR12
FONT3820 to C0R12 FONT3820. I wrote a little TeX text using only  CMR12
font. I issued:

           PSF TEST3 LIST3820 A (FONT (C0R12 FONT3820 K) SE)

and I got the following error:

APRPSF928E INVALID FORMAT IN CODED FONT FILE 'C0R12 FONT3820 K'

I tried CMR12 instead and the same error occurs. Does this error   mean
that all my * FONT3820 are with invalid formats????

   When I try:

           PSF TEST3 LIST3820 A (FONT (* FONT3820 K) SE)

I got no errors messages.

   What is happening? Please, help me.

   Thanks a lot, Humberto.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:18:52 EDT
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From:         "Hannah Appl. Kaufman" <Q2201@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Waterloo Script string functions

I am trying to create a padded string with leading zeros using
Waterloo Script 88.1 functions and am having no luck.  The
simplest would be the &'right function -

.sr num = 11
.sr newnum = &'right(&num,7,'0')

However, this gives me &newnum as 11, left-justified with no zeros.
What I want is 0000011 if the number is 11, and 0000111 if the
number has 3 digits, etc.

I've tried using the &'overlay and &'insert functions with similar
problems.  Anyone know a solution?

Thanks,
Hannah Kaufman
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:13:54 EDT
              <SCRIPT-L@RICEVM1.BITNET>
From:         Duane Beyer <URDB@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      = sign taking up 2 space when ORIENT(W) used in Waterloo Script

Hi,

   We are scripting a file with Waterloo Script 90.1 using the I3820
parameter. When we invoke the I3820 processor we use the parameter
ORIENT(W). This is causing all of the = (EQUAL) signs in the file to take
up two spaces. This first byte is the equal sign and the second is a blank.
This does not happen when script with ORIENT(N) parameter. We are using the
serif 8 font, an IBM 3827 printer and waterloo script 90.1.  Has anyone a
clue?

Thanks,
Duane


Example:

      This is a t=e=st            (this will print as)
      This is a T= e= st          (this)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:59:48 ECT
              <SCRIPT-L@RICEVM1.BITNET>
From:         john hagan <AS0JFH@BINGVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      landscape mode using LASERJET driver?

Hello,

We are running Waterloo Script 89.1 under CMS.  I have a user here who
wants to print a SCRIPT file on an HP LASERJET Series II printer in
landscape mode.  There is an escape sequence you can send to the printer
before you print your document that switches the printer to landscape
orientation; however, when he prints the SCRIPT-generated LISTPCL file after
doing this, the file still prints in portrait mode.  Is there some
instruction in the LISTPCL file that is reseting the printer?  Does
anyone know how to print a SCRIPT-generated LISTPCL file in landscape mode?

We also have Waterloo Script 90.1 (uninstalled) and he has access to a
HP LASERJET Series III printer.  Is this any easier to do with the LJIII
driver available with this version of SCRIPT?

Thanks for any and all help.

                                           - john
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:58:41 PDT
              <SCRIPT-L@RICEVM1.BITNET>
From:         "Mark C. Lawrence" <M.Lawrence@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Waterloo SCRIPT string functions

REPLY TO 07/21/92 11:19 FROM SCRIPT-L@RICEVM1.BITNET "IBM vs Waterloo SCRIPT
discussion group": Waterloo Script string functions

>Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:18:52 EDT
>From:         "Hannah Appl. Kaufman" <Q2201@PUCC.BITNET>
>Subject:      Waterloo Script string functions
>
>I am trying to create a padded string with leading zeros using
>Waterloo Script 88.1 functions and am having no luck.  The
>simplest would be the &'right function -
>
>.sr num = 11
>.sr newnum = &'right(&num,7,'0')

The problem is occurring in your .sr command; code it as

 .sr newnum = "&'right(&num,7,'0')"

otherwise, SCRIPT sees that you are substituting a numeric value,
and strips the leading zeros.

To:  SCRIPT-L@RICEVM1.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:29:00 PDT
              <SCRIPT-L@RICEVM1.BITNET>
From:         "Virginia R. Hetrick" <IARGRAF@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Script to WP 5.1

Convert the Script documents to RFT documents (documented in the
DCF manuals) then import them into WP.

HTH

vh
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:16:33 EDT
From: Dave Jeffery <JI8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.script-l
Subject: Script to WP 5.1

I would like to convert documents from IBM DCF (SCRIPT) to WP 5.1.
Are there any utilities available to accomplish this conversion?

Thank you.

                       Dave
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:00:58 PDT
Reply-To:     Eric_S_Klien@CUP.PORTAL.COM
From:         Eric_S_Klien@CUP.PORTAL.COM
Subject:      Mark Nelson

I received the following from Mark Nelson:

From: AMT5MAN@cms1.ucs.leeds.ac.uk

Dear Eric,

Thanx for your messages.  To cut a long story short.  (a) When I was
away my vacation program sent out error messages even though all
messages were received and (b) The mailer on all machines in Leeds
went down for 5 days.  (c) The mailer on the sun system is still down
and out.  Could you post this on dipl-l please.  I will reply to
messagES as soon as possible.


Mark
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 10:50:07 CDT
Reply-To:     Greg Dilworth <rgd3729@TAMSUN.TAMU.EDU>
From:         Greg Dilworth <rgd3729@TAMSUN.TAMU.EDU>
Subject:      Question about the judge and alternates

Greetings everyone,

I was wondering if someone could help me out with something on the
judge at u.washington.  I know you can sign on to a game as an
alternate.  After you have done so, if someone goes CD does that
automatically put you into his slot or do you still have to send the
signon command?

If not, is this simply a statement of intention?  No one else should
sign on to such a game because you have dibs?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Yours,

Greg
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:16:28 EDT
Reply-To:     Richard Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
From:         Richard Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Termination

I have a question regarding Judge.  As we know, Ken has left on an
extended vacation.  This is well-deserved, doubtless, but one of the
games I am playing in has just ended in a draw.  The problem is this:
since Ken started the game with a moderated flag, we cannot stop the
game!
	Does anybody have any ideas how to get Judge to let us
terminate a game?
					Rick
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From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Subject: Re: JUDGE down
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:26:18 GMT

Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
> JUDGE seems to be down. Don't send it mail for a while.

I just sent it email after I read this and got something back.  Maybe it was
just slow.
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