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From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: B5: Some Babylon 5 discussion on the net?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:21:44 GMT

In article <Jan.2.15.04.38.1993.11601@pilot.njin.net> langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein) writes:
>In article <Dec.20.19.08.18.1992.7337@andromeda.rutgers.edu> detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) writes:
>
>> B5 will be running in primetime on Channel 9, but I have no idea at what
>> time DS9 will be shown locally,  ST:TNG is shown on Saturday nights at
>> 7:00 PM.
>
>From what I understand, it will be taking over ST:TNG's timeslot AFTER
>the 2 hour premiere this thursday at 8pm. I could be wrong.


	Ah, so is TNG going out of production after this season?



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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Does SciFi Channel cut episodes????
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:00:34 GMT

In article <1hf1ulINNqtk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs895@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande) writes:
>
>No, the SF channel does not cut shows.  They BUTCHER them.
>
>It's pretty sick.
>
>Terri in Cleveland
>-- 
>

Examples please? Personally, I find what they are doing to The Prisoner
far less offensive than the hack job perpetrated by "A & E" last year or
so.
As for most of their shows, who cares? "Oh no, they trimmed some extra 
footage of Twiki in Buck Rogers!" heheh

Look at who owns them. <USA network>. Look at the "to the bone" cutting
that USA does. Sci-Fi channel is still better than that!

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From: cfogg@ole.cdac.com (Chad Fogg)
Subject: Sci-Fi Channel Movies for January 1993
Reply-To: cfogg@u.washington.edu
Organization: Internet, the
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:52:39 GMT


The January/February "PREmier Issue" of the _Sci-Fi Channel Magazine_
arrived today.  There are only two whole pages devoted to programming
schedules: the first page is a basic grid of regular programming, the
second page lists movies for only January--no listings for February.
Also, there is no information on January or February's Sci-Fi Series
Collection programming.  I do not recommend this magazine for program
information.

Subscription for 6 bi-monthly issues is is $12.95. Contact
1-800-672-5800.  Alternatively, _Satellite TV Week_ lists all Sci-Fi
programming, plus it fills you in on Sci-Fi Series Collection.

Small note:  "Future Cop" was replaced last Thursday by "Probe" (1988).


Sci-Fi Channel January Movies
-----------------------------           
Alien Lover                             
Brides of Dracula                                                      
The Bride of Frankenstein
The Car
Castle of Evil
The Claw Monsters                       
Conquest of Space                       
Corridors of Blood
Creation of the Hummanoids
D-Day on Mars
Damien: Omen II
The Day Mars Invaded Earth
Devil Doll
The Flesh Eaters
Frankenstein                            
Frankenstein Meets the Space Monster
Frankenstein: The True Story (part 1)
Frankenstein: The True Story (part 2)
Gamera vs. Zigra
The Haunted Strangler
The Horrible Dr. Hitchcock
Horror of Frankenstein
The Invisible Ray
Journey Into Midnight
Lady and the Monster
The Lost World
The Man With the Power
The Maze
The Mephisto Waltz
The Mole People
Mytsert on Monster Island
The Other
Planets Against Us
Project X
The Rave
Revenge of the Creature
Robinsion Crusoe on Mars
Scars of Dracula
Son of Frankenstein
Targets
The Unknown Terror
The Wizard of Mars
They Came From Beyond Space
Terror Beneath the Sea
Zombies of the Stratosphere
ZPG: Zero Population Growth

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From: mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese)
Subject: Re: Babylon 5 -- one more for the FAQ
Organization: Those Dudes
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 03:59:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.202838.7267@samba.oit.unc.edu> Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood) writes:
>For those of us who don't have ftp privs...
>I see Babylon 5 will be on Fox (correct)...any dates or times?

   I don't think Fox as a whole will be airing Babylon-5, B5 is part of
a group of shows that Warner Bros. is using to start its own network 
just like Fox did. Individual stations may purchase the show, since 
Warner is bartering the shows in exchange for commercial time. Sorry,
dates and times probably vary locally, but the first two weeks of 
January look good (to counter Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). For the 
poster who wanted to know which stations are airing B5, here is an old,
out-of-date list. Many more have been added, so don't lose heart (I
stopped clipping this stuff when I found a station I could pick up!)

6. Which TV stations will air Babylon 5?

     A number of new TV stations have been added to the list of those who
have agreed to carry BABYLON 5, starting with the 2-hour move slated to
air in February, 1993.  The current, revised list follows:
[note: It seems that airing in January is the plan now]

     NEW YORK:WWOR, LOS ANGELES:KCOP, CHICAGO:WPWR, PHILADELPHIA:WPHL, 
SAN FRANCISCO:KBHK, BOSTON:WSBK, WASHINGTON DC:WDCA, DALLAS:KTXA, 
DETROIT:WXON, HOUSTON:KTXH, ATLANTA:WATL, CLEVELAND:WUAB, SEATTLE:KSTW, 
TAMPA:WTOG, MINNEAPOLIS:KMSP, MIAMI:WDZL, ST. LOUIS:KPLR, 
SACRAMENTO:KRBK, PHOENIX:KUTP, DENVER:KDVR, BALTIMORE:WNUV,
HARTFORD:WTXX, ORLANDO:WOFL, SAN DIEGO:XETV, INDIANAPOLIS:WTTV,
PORTLAND OR:KPTV, MILWAUKEE:WVTY.

     CINCINNATI:WSTR, KANSAS CITY:KSMO, RALEIGH:WLFL, GRN-SPR-ASH:WHNS,
NORFOLK:WGNT, SAN ANTONIO:KABB, OAKLAHOMA CITY:KOOB, HARARISBURG:WPMT, 
W. PALM BEACH:WTVX, SYRACUSE:WSYT, ROANOKE:WJPR, DES MOINES:KDSM, 
PORTLAND ME:WPXT, SPOKANE:KAYU, BATON ROUGE:WGMB, WACO:KWKT, 
SANTA BARBARA:KADY, MONTEREY:KCBA, AUGUSTA:WFXG, LAFAYETTE LA:KADN, 
COLUMBUS GA:WXTX, YAKIMA:KCY, ODESSA:KPFJ.

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From: rclark@lpl.arizona.edu (Richard Clark x4971)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Babylon 5 -- one more for the FAQ
Date: 26 Dec 92 08:36:30 GMT
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.

In article <1992Dec25.202838.7267@samba.oit.unc.edu> Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood) writes:
>For those of us who don't have ftp privs...
>I see Babylon 5 will be on Fox (correct)...any dates or times?
>
>Lady Firebird
>--

Speaking of B5 on Fox...

Based on some calls I made last week, the Tucson area features 2 stations
planning to run B5!

KTTU (Ind 18) said they would carry the entire PTEN package. They are listed
on the B5 station list on ftp.hyperion.com.

Another call, to KMSB (Fox 11), to inquire about DS9 also revealed that
they intend to run B5! I didn't ask what they thought about KTTU also
running it, probably should have--will next week.

So is B5 and the PTEN package offered in bits and pieces? I had thought
it was supposed to be bundled up as a unit.
And what will happen if they DO both run B5? I believe KMSB is licensed in
Nogales rather than Tucson but they are considered a single market area.
Will neither station run it while the lawyers argue over it?

Richard Clark
rclark@lpl.arizona.edu
From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
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Subject: B5 in Detroit
Distribution: world
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Date: 27 Dec 92 14:05:55 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

Last night I saw the promo for the first time.  It will be on March 1st, on
WXON - TV20.  It looks *very* promising to me.
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From: jdt@ulysses.att.com (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd])
Subject: Re: Buck Rogers Space Vampire (and Babes!)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:42:39 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@ulysses.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ

In article <1992Dec17.225001.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque) writes:
|> As for the Babes, I checked out my episode guide, and some of them really
|> reminded me about them. 
|> 
|> Unchained Women: Buck gets a beautiful woman out of jail. Great title.


Just a minor FYI, but the girl he rescues is Jamie Lee Curtis.
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Subject: ST-TNG episode guide?
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:32:49 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

Does anybody have a complete episode guide to "Star Trek -- The Next
Generation" that they can mail me? It's just switched networks here in
New Zealand, and I want to check whether we've missed any episodes (and
if so, which ones). I particularly need seasons 2-3-4.

Thanks in advance.


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From: fate@eskimo.com (Craig Stykel)
Subject: Re: Capt. Power anyone?
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:40:38 GMT

csjohn@knuth.mtsu.edu (J Wallace) writes:
> Does anyone remember a TV show called Captain Power?
> It was on only a few years ago, and I was disappointed
> when it was taken off.  Our cable company here (Viacom)
> will be adding the Sci-Fi Channel to its basic plus package.
> Since I am unfamiliar with the Sci-Fi Channel, I would like
> to know if any Captain Power shows are ever shown.
> -- 
> John Wallace   ||   INTERNET: csjohn@knuth.mtsu.edu
> > > We have just the government that we deserve < <      
I liked Capt. power too...
But here they are to F*&^en cheap to have the scifi channel..
Your lucky to have it... has Capt. power on not..
From: jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Space Ranger?????
Date: 29 Dec 1992 02:42:28 -0600
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <JL0DwB1w164w@geloser.login.qc.ca> you write:
>I just saw a commercial for a movie/series(?????) on the CBS affiliates
>that we get here in Montreal called Space Ranger.
>
>Anyone as any info about this?? To me, this is the first time that I
>hear about this show (unless some of you have already disected it to
>death, but it rolled over on my system...).

Actually, I was flipping around on my satellite dish on saturday
night, and low and behold, a feed for Space Rangers came up.
Unfortunately, it was Episode 2, so I kinda had to grapple with
not quite understanding the various characters.

Although I'll still reserve judgement until I see the premiere
episode, as of right now, I would have to give the show a 6 out
of 10.  It seems to have a good mix of characters. (in contrast to
DS9, but I only saw the electronic presskit feed)  The one thing
that bugged me was the special effects, which were kinda lame.
They seemed far too "processed" for my taste, and stand out of
the shot much more than TNG.  They also seem like they were done
on an Amiga.  (not to put down the Amiga, it's a good lower-end
SFX system, but GREAT SFX should be done on a more powerful and
complex workstation with that new 3D programming language!)

Other than that, the acting by the characters are pretty generic,
the storylines seem far too "action" orientated with not much in
terms of plotline.  Like TNG, they like to do "setpiece" opening
scenes in which a big action sequence occurs before the credits
roll.  The main character also does a narrative, which doesn't
do anything in the slightest for me.

Truth beknown, I don't think this one will last the season.  It's
okay for the SF crowd, but for mass consumption it's pretty lame.

(if anyone wants me to type in the credits, I have it on
videotape still..)

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                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!

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Subject: Re: Batman: The Animated Series (was QL in Entertainment Weekly)
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 12:14:51 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor Morgan) writes:
> Yes.  We should not assume that "cartoon" = "comedy" or
> "cartoon" = "bad".  Batman: The Animated Series is most definitely not
> a comedy.  There is not much humor in it, just well-done detective
> stories with action.  It is very dark.  I think that it is one of the
> best television shows on today.
> 
> Also, it is meant for adults, because it is on in prime time.

Actually I hate to nitpick here, but Batman was only recently moved to
prime time, when Fox realized that the show had an adult appeal.  It used
to be on in the afternoon, (after Tiny Toons, at least here anyway).
So I don't think that they intended the show to be for adults, but for
older children.  It has been moved to prime time to capture more of the
adult audience, but is not "ment" for adults.
 
I agree that "cartoon" does not equal "comedy", nor does it mean that it
is only for children.  And for more on that, there is quite a lot of
Japanese Anime that children should not see at all, and that is definatly
not a comedy.


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From: djmccoy@netcom.com (Daniel J. McCoy)
Subject: Re: Space Ranger?????
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:03:44 GMT

In article <9212290843.AA13852@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca> jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung) writes:
>DS9, but I only saw the electronic presskit feed)  The one thing
>that bugged me was the special effects, which were kinda lame.
>They seemed far too "processed" for my taste, and stand out of
>the shot much more than TNG.  They also seem like they were done
>on an Amiga.  (not to put down the Amiga, it's a good lower-end
>SFX system, but GREAT SFX should be done on a more powerful and
>complex workstation with that new 3D programming language!)

I know the individual who did the graphic work for Space Rangers.  I'm not
sure what he used in terms of available Amiga graphic packages but creating
great level of SFX can certainly be done on the Amiga and at a far lower
price tag than "more poweerful and complex workstations".  One prime example
of this will be Babylon 5 where Video Toasters are put to darn good use.  I
know the guy who worked on Space Rangers has a Toaster himself but perhaps
not the same level of "toys" as Foundation Imaging who does Babylon 5.  Of
course, the artist also has something to do with it and Ron Thorton of FI
is one mean artist!  If I had a fraction of his talents...        

Having not seen Space Rangers yet, I can't comment but I felt I did have to
follow up.  The Amiga is certainly capable of high level effects provided 
the artists knows how to produce them. 

All I know is that I'll be enjoying all these new sci-fi programs.  :)

Dan
 
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From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Space Ranger(an Origin game spin off)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 04:46:24 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  It looks to me like the producers of the the Space Ranger are just taking
their lead from the game "Space Ranger" by Origin. What little I have seen
looks just like the game.
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Subject: Re: TNG, DSN, B5 and Time Trax all on one channel in LA
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 15:13:32 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

> In article <ostubble.725250260@uclagsm> ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblef
> >
> >NO, it's not the Sci-Fi channel.  Channel 13 (KCOP) showed promos
> >for Time Trax and Babylon 5 today (during 6:00 showing of Roseanne)
> >to air in January.  No specific date was given.
> >
 < lots of stuff about KCOP deleted>

> fanatic I am now. Good to see they still have some taste!
> KCOP, I salute you!

I only will salute them now.  They are the station running most of the 
syndicated SF shows that will be out soon.  But it did take this "Very
ahemm Independent" stations until this past May to go stereo, when all
the other stations in the LA area had been stereo for quite a while. 
Finally after five years we were able to see TNG in stereo.  Yeah!!  Now
they are getting the other good, (hopefully good) shows as well.  Yeah!!
Now they can be saluted.


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From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL in Entertainment Weekly
Date: 22 Dec 1992 20:16:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan) says:

>In article <1h74t5INN556@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
>>Entertainment Weekly just came out with it's best and worst of 1992 and QL
>>made the list.  This is not something to be proud of.  It made the top 5
>>WORST list.  I quote.
>>
>>The others in this worst list for TV were:
>>	1. Angel Street
>>	2. The Heights
>>	3. Picket Fences
>>	4. Quantum Leap
>>	5. L.A. Law
>>
>
>Just out of curiosity, what were the best 5? I would like to see what they rate
>as being the best.
>

Top Ten

1. Roseanne
2. Larry Sanders Show
3. Seinfeld
4. The Simpsons
5. Late Night with David Letterman
6. I'll Fly Away
7. The Ben Stiller Show
8. Dream On
9. Batman: The Animated Series
10. Cheers

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From: Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood)
Subject: Babylon 5 -- one more for the FAQ
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:28:38 GMT

For those of us who don't have ftp privs...
I see Babylon 5 will be on Fox (correct)...any dates or times?

Lady Firebird
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From: ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III)
Subject: Re: TNG, DSN, B5 and Time Trax all on one channel in LA
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:30:21 PST

djmccoy@netcom.com (Daniel J. McCoy) writes:

>Now if we can just convince them NOT to preempt all these new shows with
>Clippers and Angels games (I THINK KCOP now broadcasts Angels games).

I do not mind that KCOP preempts as they always air the show later or
the next day, as opposed to network stations that would just go...oh well!

>Gonna be a happy Sci-Fi new year!

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From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL in Entertainment Weekly
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:41:40 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Just to put my two cents into the ring,

It seems to me that a lot of judgments about the past four and a half years of
Quantum Leap has been made on the basis of one episode, LHO.  First it was TV
Guide and now Entertainment Weekly, and probably a score of other major and
minor publications have taken the opportunity to use that one episode and hype
it for all its worth, knowing America's fascination with the Kennedy
assasination and capitalizing on Quantum Leap's use of it as a premise for one
episode.  I will make no opinion calls on LHO here, but it just seems to me
that no one actually paid any attention to the episode, never mind the rest of
the series, before screaming to America, "This is what's wrong with American
society today!"

Pay it no mind.  It, too, will pass.


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From: jdt@ulysses.att.com (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd])
Subject: Re: The SciFi Channel stinks !! (was: Re: Does SciFi Channel cut episodes????)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:11:33 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@ulysses.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ

So, like, when are they going to start showing Far Out Space Nuts?