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From: mattm@intrepid18.tek.com (Matt Morin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Stupid Coach <--> Stupid Fans (which one is it)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:24:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In case you missed it, the all time stupidest coach ... the man who received
a labotomy before his first game ... reached 200 coaching wins _faster_ then
any other coach in the history of the NBA.

In case my sarcasism didn't make it through, I think that Adelman has done
a terrific job in Portland and it's incredible that he hasn't been considered
for coach of the year in past seasons.  His philosophy of basketball, based
on defense and rebounding sparking the offense, has given his team an average
of almost 60 wins in his 3 full seasons of coaching.

Of course, until he wins a championship, I won't consider him one of the 
"greats", but to those who think he is a poor coach I ask you to look at the
facts.  Adelman has created a system to maximize the players strengths while
minimizing there weaknesses (although they still shine through sometimes).
Instead of having a team that was a perinialy 1st round KO, the team has won
two Conference championships.  Those of you out there who have already cast
your judgement against him have made the decision without seeing the outcome
of his efforts.  Building a championship team *rarely* occurs in 1 or 2
seasons and with the talent currently on board, they will be contenders for
a couple more.

It's easy to say that Adelman took over an already great team and that anybody
could have coached Portland succesfully.  I sincerely doubt it.  Buck Williams
was the only significant addition to the Blazers 3 years ago and, as much as
I like the guy, he did not bring this team 20 more wins by himself.

By the way, Rick A. still beat out the likes of Riley and Red despite taking
over the shambled wreck of the Mike Schuler system in midseason.  Without that,
he would have reached 200 wins in 10+ fewer games easy.

-- Matt Morin
   mattm@orca.wv.tek.com

** Standard Disclaimer **
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Most players from a specific team
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:26:49 GMT
Organization: RUBL  Commish- Real Usenet Basketball League

In article <Bxtyso.D07@news.cso.uiuc.edu} jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
}
}	
}	Here's a question for U all to ponder:
}
}	Which one specific collegiate team (i.e. Old Dominion '86-'87,
}	Kentucky '84-'85, etc) has the most players currently on NBA
}	rosters?
}
Could it be the '89 Michigan Wolverines with Robinson, Rice, Mills, Vaught
and Co. 
}
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}|   " I try to discover a little something to make me sweeter..."   --Erasure |
}|   Jazzy J               jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu         U-Illinois/Urbana |
}-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-Jon
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Control Data               and make gorilla cookies."                        
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From: rpierce@oracle.com (Russell Pierce)
Subject: Re: What happened to Daugherty?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA  94065
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:37:51 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <Bxtut9.L53@ra.nrl.navy.mil> salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:
>What happened to Brad Daugherty? His name has not been in the 
>box scores. I personally think with Brad they would have not lost 
>those games in the West.
>This is a team that they will remain as one of the top three teams as 
>long they don't lose Daugherty or Price.

	He has some bad tendinitis in one of his nees which has been 
	bothering him since pre-season.  I read that they are hoping rest 
	will allow him to resume play in about a week.

		Russ
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Where did the Shaq blasters go?
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:26:25 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


   article <92322.071302KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>, KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>   It was only a few short months ago when various people on this network were
>spouting off saying that the Shaq was over rated 
                  
Shaq has clearly dominated some of the lesser centers in the NBA.  He has a 
very good game against Rony Seikaly, who is a great but not physically 
overwhelming center.  I'm still interested in seeing him match up against
Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem and Daugherty.  Shaq probably deserves to be ranked up
there, but below those guys.  For now.  Shaq has a good 50-60 lb weight 
advantage on these centers. I think that Brad D.'s mobility might hurt Shaq,
and Robinson will give him a lot of trouble defensively.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>The MAN was just named Player of the Week, in his first NBA week.  Imagine
>what will happen when he learns how to shoot!!!!  I am in awe!

He's still so raw, though.  Has trouble with double teams, and he's not a great
passer.  What will be very interesting is watching him play teams a second
time, and seeing what defensive schemes they cook up to stop him.  If he 
dominates these teams again, then he is truly for real. (of course, coming up
with a plan against 300 lbs of Shaq is difficult)
>  Oh yea, those same people were yelling about the play of Christian Laettner

The only thing I'll say about CL is that I'm not surprised by his general
success.  I am, however, surprised by his success as a low-post player.  
The only player who's really given him problems down there is Barkley, but
then....   

--Rob Clough
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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: What about Seattle?
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:13:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.001507.11245@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
>Though Seattle is still undefeated, they haven't played any of the top
>teams so it is hard to gauge them.  So far, they have beaten Houston twice
>at a neutral site, and the Lakers and Sacramento at home. 
>All these teams are at best mediocre.
>By contrast, Portland has beaten Denver, Phoenix, and Cleveland at home and
>Golden State on the road.  Golden State is not at their best right now
>but Phoenix and Cleveland are legitimate title contenders.

Of course Phoenix (without KJ) and Cleveland (without Daugherty) were not
at their best when they played Portland, either.
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From: pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna)
Subject: Re: Undefeated Teams? (was Re: PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS WILL GO 82-0 AND WIN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:19:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.185425.20580@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
>In article <1ec2gjINN79h@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dale Harris) writes:
>>
>>;)  It's good to dream I suppose...    I have a question has there
>>ever been a team that went undefeated and if not what is the closest record
>>to being undefeated and the team that achieved it?  Does this go back to
>>the days of Wilt Chamberlain or do the Bulls with Air Jordan own the
>>record?
>>
>Oh!  (I used to know this.) I think that the Celtics won 68 games in the
>'72 - '73 season but ended up losing to the Knicks in the eastern finals
>as the Knicks went on to take their last title (so far) in five games a-
>gainst the Lakers.  But,  weren't the '71 - '72 Lakers, which had beaten
>the Knicks in five for that year's NBA crown, the NBA's all-time regular
>season champion with 72 wins as Wilt had,  possibly,  his finest season?
	The Lakers had 69 wins that year.

>The competitive balance in the NBA today makes me believe that we'll ne-
>ver see any more teams like that in this league.

I disagree, the Bulls were able to come up with 67 wins last year
with only an average bench at best. I also remember a couple of
games that they easily could have won(1.The 2OT loss against Utah
and 2. The loss against Indiana where they blew a 20 point lead) so 
you figure a really _good_ team could possibly beat the Lakers record.

-- 
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From: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Camden `Snake-Oil' Parks)
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE: nyk04was05.13nov92
Reply-To: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:15:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.205646.27587@pdn.paradyne.com>, vince@paradyne.com (Vince Ciletti) writes:
>In article <1e8g24INN9lo@transfer.stratus.com> halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin) writes:
>>nyk 104, was 106   13nov92
>>
        [...]
>>nyk   32  23  29  20  -  104
>>was   35  23  23  25  -  106
>>
>>attendance 18756, time 2:17, officials: JNies,HArmstrong,TBernhardt
>>
>>-- 
>>!	Jim  Halpin
>>!	Stratus Computer
>>!	Marlboro, MA
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Thanks for posting the first Knicks boxscore, even if it was their
>only loss so far.  How about the other 4 <wins>?  You will post 
>Saturday night's game, since no doubt the Massachusetts papers 
>covered that one, won't you? :-)
>
>Vince

    Just so happens, Vince, that Jim posted this because he is the reporter
for the Bullets.  The reporters do the boxscores for their team's home games.
Of their first five games, the Knicks have two away games: one against the
Bullets (reported by Jim), the other against the Hawks (who hadn't a reporter
until just recently).  In the case when a team hasn't a reporter, the visiting
team's reporter is to cover the game.  Some reporters haven't gotten moving
yet, the one for the Knicks among them.  We even have some reporters covering
more than one team, so we could use some more reporters.  Perhaps you could
put in a little time entering boxscores?
    Hold your horses, I'll enter the boxscores for the first 3 games tomorrow
if I can find them at home.

                         Camden "Snake-Oil" Parks
                      reporter for the Sixers and Nets
                        parks@jbh.chem.brandeis.edu
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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:39:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.194930.11303@midway.uchicago.edu> hh15@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>1) Has any player in the NBA history EVER had a quadruple double?  I
>mean double digits in any four of the following categories: points,
>rebounds, steals, assists, blocks (and maybe turnover? :) 

Uh, Hakeem Olajuwon has done it, points, rebounds, assists and blocks I think.
He also missed another one by one assist.  Pretty incredible, these quad
doubles.  I don't know who else has done it though (I'm sure he's not the
only one).

>2) Can anybody help me on the following: I would like to see the
>ranking of NBA teams in terms of their average heights, by which I
>mean the average of all players' heights weighted by each's average
>playing time in a NBA year.  How 'bout last year, let's say?

Weighted by each's average playing time in the NBA?  That's interesting,
something I would like to know myself.  I suppose the Warriors have to rank
as being near the bottom of the pile (obviously), but for last year, it's
tough to say which team might be tallest?  Utah lost in this department
after Tyrone Corbin replaced Thurl Bailey at forward (otherwise they were
7'4'', 6'11'' and 6'9'').  The Lakers, with that Magic quotient were always
high (7'1'', three 6'9''s and 6'4'') in the past.  My guess for last year
would be Cleveland as Brad Daugherty, John Williams and Larry Nance all got
loads of playing time.  The biggest team of recent memory would be Boston's
last championship team (plus Bill Walton, who was probably 7'4'').

Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:06:03 -0500 
From: Myung Joon Choi <mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Boxscores to DENVER-CHICAGO,SACRAMENTO-SEATTLE?

Does anyone have the boxscores to Saturday's Denver-Chicago and
Sacramento- Seattle games.  If so, could you post them?  It would be
much appreciated.  Thanks.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Racism? (Re: Shaq should have been on the Olympic Team...)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:08:17 GMT

u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>I really don't think that's what Charles meant.  Barkley is in effect with
>his statement, accusing Sixer management of being racist for letting Poppen
                                                                      ^^^^^^
>make the team instead of maybe someone else.  Put it another way.  If I'm
>playing basketball at a certain gym, and I see some girl who really knows
>how to play, am I out of line by saying that she's the only girl I've seen
>here who is really good?  Just an observation.  Barkley has always been
>angry at the Sixers for acquiring stiffs.  Maybe he's wrong with his
>allegations (Popson was probably acquired for being as tall as he is), but
              ^^^^^^

	Not a flame, but it's not Poppen or Popson, it's Hoppen, Dave Hoppen,
	7' out of Nebraska.  No idea who Poppen might be, but if you're
	thinking Popson, that's Dave Popson, who played for North Carolina
	in the mid-late 80's.  He never played for the Sixers, though --
	played some w/ the Celtics and the Clippers.  Dave Hoppen wasn't
	a total waste -- in fact, he's the all-time leading scorer in
	Nebraska history.

	Jazzy J

.
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From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: BOX: Wolves vs Bulls (11/17)
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:22:54 GMT
Keywords: n

>Armstrong is starting, and Paxson coming off the bench?  Since when?

Paxson had off-season knee surgury and is slow getting back up to
form.  Also, he pulled a groin muscles in the Timberwolve game to
slow him down further.  Armstrong has been playing very well in 
his place and it could become permanent....

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				call, an implied date on Saturday, and
gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com	Tampax in your apartment.  Looks to me
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From: msl@hpcvusc (Mark Laventhal )
Subject: Re: A Basic Question
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:22:11 GMT

> 
> The Bullets are called such because D.C is the murder capital and some people
> thought calling them the Washington Crack Babies might be tactless.

The Bullets were originally in Baltimore, and the name "Baltimore Bullets"
has alliteration.  (Of course, so does "Los Angeles Lakers" and that was
purely by circumstance, since the Lakers were named in Minneapolis.)

Mark Laventhal

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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Clippers: Jarren Jackson?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:57:50 GMT

Hi All!  so who is he?

he was in close to crunch time vs. Phoenix and he plays pretty well.

any info ?
thanks!

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From: swenson.rtsg.mot.com (R. Scott Swenson)
Subject: BOXSCORE cle08hou06.19nov92
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:53:07 GMT

cle 92, hou 99   19nov92

 Cleveland Illegal Defense:1 Houston Illegal Defense:1
 Cleveland Gerald Wilkins Flagrant Foul 8:25 4th

cle ( 3- 5)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
nance,larry       36   3  10   0  0   0  0   2  9   2  2  2  0  1  0  0  0    6
sanders,mike      27   8  12   0  0   2  2   1  2   1  3  1  0  0  0  0  0   18
williams,john     35   2   5   0  0  10 15   1  9   3  4  2  3  0  0  0  0   14
price,mark        32   8  17   3  4   5  6   1  2   7  0  0  5  0  0  0  0   24
wilkins,gerald    19   1   6   0  1   0  0   0  2   0  2  0  2  0  0  0  0    2
ferry,danny       23   6   7   0  0   1  2   1  5   4  0  0  1  0  0  0  0   13
brandon,terrell   16   1   6   1  1   0  0   0  1   5  0  0  1  0  0  0  0    3
ehlo,craig        35   3   8   0  2   0  0   3  7   2  4  4  2  0  0  0  0    6
guidinger,jay      3   0   2   0  0   0  0   1  1   0  2  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
battle,john       14   3   4   0  0   0  0   0  0   1  1  1  1  0  0  0  0    6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cle totals       240  35  77   4  8  18 25  10 38  25 18 10 15  1  0  0  0   92
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .455   .500   .720       team rebs  6
procedure technicals 1

hou ( 4- 2)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
herrera,carl      19   2   4   0  0   0  0   2  5   1  5  1  3  0  0  0  0    4
horry,robert      34   3   6   0  0   0  0   2  6   3  3  0  4  0  0  0  0    6
olajuwon,hakeem   41  12  22   0  0   4  7   3 20   5  5  3  2  4  0  0  0   28
floyd,sleepy      35  12  18   3  4   1  2   0  1   4  2  0  1  1  0  0  0   28
smith,kenny       20   3   4   1  1   0  0   0  0   4  2  1  2  0  0  0  0    7
bullard,matt      23   2   6   0  1   1  2   2  2   1  1  1  1  0  0  0  0    5
brooks,scott      28   3   8   2  3   1  2   0  3   9  0  3  1  0  0  0  0    9
rollins,tree       7   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  3   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
winchester,kinnar 20   1   5   0  1   0  0   1  1   2  0  1  2  0  0  0  0    2
garland,winston   13   5   7   0  0   0  0   1  1   2  0  0  1  0  0  0  0   10
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hou totals       240  43  80   6 10   7 13  11 42  31 19 10 17  5  0  0  0   99
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .538   .600   .538       team rebs  6
procedure technicals 1

cle   19  26  26  21  -   92
hou   22  26  23  28  -   99

attendance 10003, time 2:02, officials: HEvans,GBenson,DStafford

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From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: Wolves Trade
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:29:24 GMT

In <168A114431.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:

>Thanks for the info, jerk!
>I saw the commercial and I thought it was funny. I don't think it bashed
>Detroit at all.
> 
>>Am looking forward to having Phoenix cream the
>>Pistons twice in the reg. season the way they did in the preseason....
> 
>They creamed them only once in the preseason, not twice.
>As if preseason matters!
>Every win does not constitute a "cream", jerk.

If you could read, jerk!  He didn't say they creamed them twice only that they
play twice in the regular season.  I think he specifically said regular season.






-- 
Brian T Odom

"We are all manufacturers -- some make good, others make trouble, and still
others make excuses."
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From: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Camden `Snake-Oil' Parks)
Subject: BOXSCORE: nyk07sea06.17nov92
Reply-To: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:10:48 GMT

nyk 90, sea 100   17nov92

nyk ( 4- 3)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
campbell,tony     12   2   5   0  0   0  0   0  0   1  3  0  0  0  0  0  0    4
oakley,charles    28   1   3   0  0   0  0   2  5   0  6  2  2  0  0  0  0    2
ewing,patrick     36   9  19   0  1   7  9   6 12   1  4  2  6  0  0  0  0   25
rivers,doc        19   3   7   0  1   1  2   2  2   3  2  2  3  0  0  0  1    7
starks,john       24   3  13   0  3   3  4   0  4   6  4  0  2  0  0  0  0    9
smith,charles     23   2   4   0  0   1  2   2  5   0  3  0  3  1  0  0  0    5
mason,anthony     34   6  11   0  0   3  3   4  9   0  3  0  2  2  0  0  0   15
davis,hubert      18   4   9   1  1   0  0   0  1   1  4  1  1  0  0  0  0    9
blackman,rolando  17   3   4   0  0   0  1   0  2   3  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    6
anthony,greg      29   4  12   0  1   0  2   3  3   1  1  3  1  0  0  0  0    8
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nyk totals       240  37  87   1  7  15 23  19 43  16 31 10 20  3  0  0  1   90
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .425   .143   .652       team rebs 11
procedure technicals 2

sea ( 5- 1)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
kemp,shawn        45   9  17   0  0   4  8   0  5   2  4  1  7  1  0  0  0   22
mckey,derrick     41   4  10   0  2  10 14   0  4   4  3  2  1  4  0  0  0   18
cage,michael      40   4   8   0  0   0  0   4  7   2  3  1  0  0  0  0  0    8
mcmillan,nate     20   2   4   0  0   0  0   0  4   4  6  2  2  1  0  0  0    4
payton,gary       44   6   8   0  1   1  1   1  4   5  2  2  3  0  0  0  0   13
barros,dana       17   0   2   0  1   5  5   1  3   1  0  0  1  0  0  0  0    5
johnson,eddie     27   7  13   1  3  13 13   1  3   1  4  1  4  0  0  0  0   28
paddio,gerald      6   1   4   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
sea totals       240  33  66   1  7  33 41   7 31  19 22  9 18  6  0  0  0  100
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .500   .143   .805       team rebs 14
procedure technicals 1

nyk   16  26  24  24  -   90
sea   19  22  27  32  -  100

attendance 13245, time 2:20, officials: HHollins,GWillard,MWunderlich
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: rookie all-star game.
Keywords: all-star . rookies
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:19:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <BxpKn4.Bvz@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:
>Yeah, it was VERY WEAK I must say.  I've seen much better in a CBA dunk 
>contest where one guy did a cartwheel and then dunked it.  (pretty original)
>Well, I say replace the dunk contest with a 1-on-1 or a 2-on-2 contest.
>It'll be more exciting and much woofing will come about player x being better
>than player y.  I don't want the dunk contest anymore because all the big name
>people don't want to participate in it anymore.


I saw a celebrity slam-dumk contest on TV last year-- I think it was
"Magic Johnson's Slam 'n' Jam," or something like that.  Anyway, one
guy put a cup of water up on the rim.  He went up, dunked with one
hand, and, with the other hand, grabbed the cup of water and drank
it!  Another guy (the eventual winner) leapt over six crouching
Laker Girls to dunk.  Much better than the NBA's slam-dunk contest.

Tony