HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:09:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

>>be applicable to women.  Or do you not have any male friends either?
>>
>Julia,
>I thought that we were talking about ATTRACTION, and when/how men and
>does not count.  I believe that, outside of third-party introduction
>scenarios, including colleagueship, BTW, that:
>
>	A) a man decides fairly early on whether he is attracted to
>	   a given woman or not, and by the time that he approaches
>	   the woman, that she also knows that he is
>
>	b) a man usually does not know whether the woman that he
>	   approached is attracted to him, at least not early on
>	   (for whatever reasons)
>
>As for your "News Flash", I am well aware of the "people-ness" of women,
>and that they have other thing to do in life other than being "potential
>mates or partners for me.  I also know that women are differrent than men.
>Women are socialized differrently, think differrently, and behave
>differrently than men.  I also know that there is not a "snowball's chance
>in hell that I might become sexually attracted to any of my men-friends,
>nor they with me.  I believe that platonic relationships work best when
>
>Taking all of this into account, the only time that a man can really/"legally"
>spend time with his female friends is when he is SO-less.  When a man is
>SO-less, he really wants to rectify that situation as soon as possible,
>therefore, he is not going to spend loads of time hangin' out with a woman
>who has absolutely no designs on him, nor he for her, unless, maybe she
>is one of those "rare birds" that will actually introduce him to one
>of her girlfriends (fat chance!).  Then, of course, if girlfriend is interested,then _she_ will make heavy demands upon his time.
>
>Keith R
 
Keith, I predict that if and when you ever find a woman who can
handle your chauvanistic attitudes towards women, you 
may discover the necessity of interacting socially with women as
well as men.  Good luck meeting someone with the self-resspect
to respond to healthy social interaction.  Sounds like
so far you have some serious lacking in that dept.
    And, as to my original post - it is not uncommon for 
men and women in colleagueship interactions to discover they also
share romantic attraction.  That is part of what I was originally
talking about.  But thank you for opening my eyes to the 
closed off world of "only men" that you live in.  I will say
a special prayer of thanks that the males in my social sphere 
do not share your attitudes.
--j
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:54:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec13.165710.787@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

>|> You and I should talk.  I'll usually let a guy open the car door, if he
>|> insists, but it really, really, really ANNOYS the hell out of me. 

>Now, I don't understand this at all. I do it all the time; I'm just being
>polite, and I've never seen anyone get offended by it. Why does it annoy you?

Me, I love it.  But only if the guy isn't generally patronizing.  In other
words, it's a great way for a man to make a woman feel special -- as long
as he's not condescending toward her at all.  I've been out with men who
hold doors, etc., and who are also terrible misogynists; and I've been out
with men who do all those things and genuinely like and respect me. 
There's a world of difference.


-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Okay, what *is* that view? (was: Re: Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:14:49 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

In article <BzE0vv.77o@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>In article <Dec.16.09.39.32.1992.7061@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>>I think that interest in sex manifests itself in many different ways,
>>and that women have quiet ways of indulging in lust (hey, bun-watching
>>is one of *my* favorite activities), and men's ways tend to be more
>>vocal or obvious. 
>
>Not always. Remember male strippers? 

Good point, though I was thinking more of day-to-day interaction.
I blanked out on male strippers, though, because I find the concept
distasteful.  I look at a Chippendale's calendar, and those guys don't
turn me on, they look *weird*, like something from the Planet Steroid.

Charleen
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:07:18 GMT

In article <15903@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <238@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>>In article <7901@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>|>Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
>|>*refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  
>|
>|Oh C'mon Elizabeth Baby, you know you're big enough
>|to handle the two of them at the same time!   8-)
>|--Keith
>
>  -7.4
>

I couldn't believe he said it either.
 
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:45:22 GMT

In article 1ghthrINNa8p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aa752@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Louise Billi) writes:
>
>
>
>Over 40 (just a tad) women have a terrible time of it.
>Men in that age group are all looking for the young "Tenderoni"
>to make him feel like a kid again.  Can't men realize that 
>most younger women see them as either a "Father Figure" or
>a "Sugar Daddy"?  Is that what they really want in a mate?

Maybe. 
Maybe these men want children?
I find older women attractive because, generally, they have experienced
life to a greater extent. They are also not shy when it comes to saying what
they mean and meaning what they say. Many men have to dominate their lovers.
This is easier for them with younger women. It is also unhealthy, IMHO.

>And it is sad today that wrinkles on a woman mean she is OLD, 
>yet on a man, they add character.  This 'youth oriented' 
>culture leaves the over 40 woman out in the cold.

Character is character on a man or a woman. People who have trouble with
this are only fooling themselves. They are not worth my time.
 
>Brrrrrrr.....

Your fire needs a log. 
Get a younger man to fetch it from outside and stoke the furnace.
If men can play the "tenderoni" game, so can you!

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: What would you do if...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:11:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.215603.5119@ttinews.tti.com> scott@soldev.tti.com (Scott Taylor) writes:
>I have a question that you folks might be able to shed some
>light on. I am certain that there is no single correct answer
>to this one, but I am curious to hear what others think.
>
>First a little background. I have been seeing a woman for 
>about 6 months now, who is really a great person. We have had
>some really fun times together and really enjoy each others
>company. I am not in love with her, nor is she in love with
>me, but we really enjoy being together.
>
>About a month ago I met someone else, whom I now also date.
>They both know about each other and are free to ask me 
>anything about one another. I thought that I could make this
>work, since I am completely honest about the extent of
>the relationships. However, it seems like they are now trying
>to compete for my time and attention. I think of it as a kind
>of jealousy, and it is not appealing to me.
>
>I don't want to dump either one of them, as I get a lot of
>enjoyment from each of their company. I have tried to discuss
>this with both of them and they both deny that there is a 
>problem.
>
>Any Thoughts?
>

You need one more girlfriend. Three will keep it from getting boring.
Plus if one is pissed off your too busy to really care. Which by the
way they find irresistable.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:58:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.033308.21800@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>
>Oh, but when I said "sticking them with the check", I meant it.
>The check comes, it sits between our hands, and I just smile
>across the table and ignore it, with an air of being able to
>sit there all day, as if I have no idea why we're even sitting
>here...  Really shakes them.  I've only done this to 2 guys,
>and neither of them managed a way of getting out of it, even
>though I could tell they _really_ wanted to.  They were dying
>to ask me to split the check, but just couldn't figure out
>how.
>
>This is why I was so shocked that keith r liked my posting.
>Hey, keith, did you miss this part the first time around?

No Piglet, I did not miss that part the first time around.
What I liked was that "sticking them with the check" was not
SOP with you, but simply your way of ending an awful date.
That you were more than willing to split the tab with a man
whose company you really enjoyed, or to even treat him now
and then, is what I found refreshing.  There are simply a lotta'
women out here with the attitude that "the man pays, regardless".
That is the attitude/behaviour that I have consistently objected to.

Are you reading me?

Keith R
>
>In all fairness, these two really were _dates from hell_.
>Details furnished on request...
>
>
>Piglet
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:46:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <7901@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
>*refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  

Oh C'mon Elizabeth Baby, you know you're big enough
to handle the two of them at the same time!   8-)
--Keith
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Surrogate companion
Date: 19 Dec 92 07:04:33 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho) writes:

>--Anybody else suffer from the "understudy for the part" syndrome? I have
>at least three good male friends who throughout the years go through
>various relationships -- and in between, guess who fills in? No, not 
>sexually, but during that interrim period I'm the never-fail alternative
>female companion. 
[...]
>No, it's not a _bad_ thing -- it's just that I get insecure sometimes -- how
>come I"m always the "backup?" 

People often spend more time with their friends when they're not in 
a relationship. 

Does being the 'backup' cause you distress because you are romantically
interested in these guys? If so, you might want to spend less energy on
these friendships. (It looks unlikely that these friendships will turn 
into romances, although one can never say for sure.)

If you're just wondering when a guy is going to be interested in you as an 
SO rather than as a friend--you can do one of two things. You can decide 
that it will happen when it happens, and in the meantime you can enjoy 
your friendships. Being a good friend with a man is a worthwhile experience, 
because you learn things about how men think. 

Or you can decide that you want to look for an SO, and spend less time 
with old friends (unless they're good matchmakers :-) and more time in 
places/activities where you might meet new people. 

Or you can do a bit of both.
-- 
--
Stef                Just as there are laws of Conservation of Matter and
stef@apple.com      Energy, so there are in fact Laws of Conservation of 
                    Pain and Joy. Neither can ever be created or destroyed.
                         But one can be converted into the other. 
                                                         --Spider Robinson
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<lj1chmINNo8q@news.bbn.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:21:12 GMT

dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

>I know where I was when Kennedy got shot.  My mom, who was eight
>months pregnant with me, was flushing the toilet when the handle
>broke off and slashed her wrist open.

Geez, Dawn.  Is there some kind of a curse on your family which takes
effect 8 months into pregnancy?  

---Julie
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Giving and Receiving
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:20:14 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1992Dec15.225108.23380@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <lis6s8INN225@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>
>>When a certain soc.singler was in Boston, he brought me some rocks and
>>sea shells that he'd found walking on the cape, but I guess some people
>>would look at you weird if you gave them a rock.  I loved it, but I'm
>>a little strange.
>
>Just to put in a contrary data point,

No, when Dawn tells you that she's a little strange, you should trust her.

>be a little careful of whom you give
>rocks to, when, and under what circumstances.
>
>... it's a good idea to make sure it's clean, not
>too large, and either shiny or containing a fossil or something.

Yeah, I just gave my honey a rock and she really loves it - must be because
it's shiny.  :-)
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering)
Subject: Giving and Receiving
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:27:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

If you give someone little presents, what do you give and what do
you like to receive?

Nice and simple...just interested!

Guy.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Summary: apology
Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:41:24 GMT

I am sorry that I jumped to some conclusions about some things that
were said in this thread.  Some of these issues really push my
buttons, because I have felt my generosity has been taken advantage of
too many times for me to ignore it.
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:37:19 GMT
	<1992Dec16.013133.17687@netcom.com>
	<1992Dec16.061833.9087@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 16 Dec 92 06:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.061833.9087@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

   Actually, I've had a fair amount of success both with keeping the
   stomach muscles strong and with making use of those cushions designed
   for sitting up in bed and watching TV.  (Do be warned, though, that
   the latter are often made of corduroy and have become quite infamous
   for people accidentally falling asleep after sex and trying to use
   them as regular pillows--incidents of this sort have been making
   headlines all over the country.)
   ^^^^^^^^^


oh my gawwd.


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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:00:30 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <4ad103bcc4Ki00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>
|}As I said before, it has nothing to do with contracts; it has to do
|}with consideration for the other person's feelings, which I believe
|}was one of the reasons Lauren stated *for* offering to pay on a date.
|}It's the difference between blithely letting someone spend money on
|}you, and acknowledging that they're spending money on you, and saying
|}"hey, I understand, let me share a little of the burden."
|
|Sheesh, you and I sure have wildly different attitudes about this
|subject.  Believe it or not, when I ask a woman out I do *not*
|consider the paying of the bill as a burden; it's actually something
|that I enjoy doing (and before anyone asks, no I certainly do not
|expect anything in return other than company and conversation).  I
|feel that a woman shows consideration for *my* specific feelings when
|she does not ask to pay, becuase my specific feeling is that I want
|the date to be my treat.  I certainly don't *expect* the woman to not
|ask to pay; that would be silly.  What I'm trying to say here is that
|if by some miracle she has tuned in enough to my feelings to know that
|I'd prefer to treat, then it bodes well for the future.  Or maybe she's
|just a golddigger :-).

Bravo, James.  Thank you for explaining what I was trying to say better
than I could.  
 
>--James Preston


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Am I banished?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:14:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <248@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:

>OK Sandra, I have to ask about what you are saying here.  In the
>above message, you state "...since she's a foreigner (Japanese)
>there wasn't much point in having a big family wedding."  
>I've got to say that at first glance, I took offense with that.
>Are you saying that foreigners aren't worth having big weddings
>for?  Or you saying that because she was a foreigner, that 
>'the marriage probably won't last long enough to have a big
>wedding for, or are you saying that Japanese aren't worth
>having big weddings for.

Oh, for God's sake.  When I read it, I interpreted it as being hard-to-
impossible to have her side well-represented at a large wedding.  If you
really wanted clarification, why present the worst possible reading in
public rather than in e-mail?  Pretty damned thoughtless, I think.

Rob T
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 And goes down as quick as it can,
 These days, you just have to grab it as it goes by."
From: souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:13:42 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <1992Dec12.072004.148969@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In <15837@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>As I said before, when this topic last came up, I think that dating someone
>>that exactly the same height is the ideal.  For one thing, you can both
>>stand flatfooted and you'll find that your lips fit.  Access to other
>>strategic parts is also much easier.
>
>I've found that in bed, height differences don't generally matter...

Yeah, right. I wish L. had the same attitude. Silly git had a talent for
making a man feel he was Toulouse-Lautrec's smaller brother.
How much taller was she?

One inch.


I've always been a sucker for redheads, tho... :-/

Francois.
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:09:46 GMT
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Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 17 Dec 92 12:41:23 GMT


In article <1992Dec17.124123.6948@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:

   It's my understanding that it is a protein in the cat's saliva that causes
   the allergy problem for most people. The cat licks itself and the protein
   is left on hair and skin so I dont' think a hairless cat is the answer. I
   have a vague memory of reading about a mediation that when given to the
					  ^^^^^^^^^
   cat, surpressed the manufacture of this protein without hurting the
   cat.....Anyone out there know anything about this?

Was that supposed to be medication, or meditation?


			Spidey!!!


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