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Thanks Shag. I went through a little panic - wait a minute, wasn't I
looking at this file in notepad and now I can't!!! 

Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!






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From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: Re: GEOS backgrounds
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:27:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.040910.23773@afterlife.ncsc.mil> simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:
>I downloaded ensembul.zip and piclb183.zip to convert some .gif files
>into backgrounds but I must be missing something.
>
>After remaping and resizing the .gif files, how do I convert them into
>the correct .pic format so GEOS sees them as valid backgrounds?
>

After you use piclab to scale and remap the gif file, you need to
convert it to either PCX or TIFF format.  Graphics Workshop is an
excellent shareware product for doing this, and it's available for
anonymous ftp at any Simtel mirror site.

Then enter GEOS and fire up GeoDraw.  Use the Import function (from
the File menu) to import your PCX or TIFF file.  Then make sure the
image is "selected" (ie, has the little select boxes on it) and use
the Edit menu to Cut or Copy it.

When you've done that, fire up Preferences, select Background, and
click on the "get background from clipboard" button.  The image you
cut or copied becomes your new background.
-- 
   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
   doug-taylor+@osu.edu                |            - A Course in Miracles
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: geos.ini
Date: 25 Dec 92 17:14:38 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

cs421246@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs421246) writes:

>Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
>and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!

There are some "hints and tips" files floating around (mainly on America
Online) - I've seen excerpts of one of them, and some of the tips deal with
geos.ini.  I don't know whether you can make GEOS's GUI look like a Sparc
though (at least, not at this time, I haven't heard of a specific GUI that
looks like anything other than Motif or Mac)... There are a lot of neat
things you can set in geos.ini, though...  Here are excerpts from my own.

applianceroom = false		<- Intermediate mode is never offered.
firstlookroom = false		<- Beginner mode is never offered.

dosAssociations = {
	*.GIF = C:\UTILITY\VPIC.EXE	<- double-click a GIF, it displays.
	*.ZIP = C:\UTILITY\UNZIP.EXE	<- double-click a ZIP, it unzips.
}

confirmDelete = true		<- I'm probably going to change some of these
confirmReadOnly = true		<- to FALSE so that it doesn't prompt me 
confirmReplace = true		<- before every file when I'm deleting many.
minimizeOnRun = false		<- You can minimize GeoManager when you start
				   any other app.

A friend of mine got a big tip file which he might eventually mail me, if he
does, I'll post it.

-Shag

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From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: Re: DRDOS6.0 and 1.2 vs. PRO?
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:52:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.140947.18107@eng.umd.edu> jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey) writes:
>GeoWorks.  That one said that   Geoworks PRO has a menu button, or 
>whatever, for TaskMax.  Is this really an addition on PRO that my 1.2
>doesn't have?  Does this make it worthwhile to install PRO instead of my
>ol' favorite 1.2? (That's one ting about GEOS--we don't have too many
>versions to choose among).

This Q/A from the FAQ may answer part of your question.

Q:  Does PC/GEOS support MS-DOS 5.0 or DR-DOS 6.0 task-switching?

A:  Version 1.2 of GWE supports MS-DOS 5.0 task-switching if your 
    hot-key is the default (Ctrl-Esc).

    The DR Dos TaskMax (task switcher) ships with the update version 
    6.01 of DR Dos.  The task switching is only supported in Pro (not 
    in v1.2). The current support allows you to cut/paste between 
    PC/GEOS applications and DOS applications. 

Shag could (and probably will :-) tell you more about it.

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: The Adventures of Shag, in the GeoComm Dimension....
Keywords: Debugging without a Debugger.  Ack Ptooie.
Date: 26 Dec 92 06:42:57 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

This evening, I got bored, so I deliberately blew the living heck out of
GeoComm something close to 3 dozen times, all for the sake of learning more
trivial facts about its behaviour.  

The VT-100 "cs" (change scroll region) command is still the only documented
culprit.  If you are on a unix box, "echo '^[[1;24r'" can be a whole load of
fun.  (the ^[[ is gotten by hitting CTRL-V then ESC, by the way.)  Typical
results include random selections from the GeoCrash Jukebox.

So far, nothing you didn't already know.  Time to change that.

First off:  Only the first 5 lines of GeoComm's screen have this behaviour,
at least on my system.  I can connect to the unix, run Screen, run VI under
screen, and make the system spit out as many "cs" codes as my heart desires,
as long as the cursor isn't in the top 5 lines of the window when I do it.
(Incidentally, GeoComm has lots of trouble redrawing EMACS windows when I'm
working in the first few lines too, although it doesn't crash.)
When I just echo the code itself from the command line, though, it doesn't
matter where I am on the screen, it GeoCrashes.

Secondly: VT100.TC lists code 25 as being: 
	\E[%i%d;%i%dr
	That's esc-[-increment-integer-;-increment-integer-r
/etc/termcap on this unix host lists the "cs" code as being:
	\E[%i%d;%dr
	That's esc-[-increment-integer-;-integer-r
Note the lack of the second "increment" (%i) function.  I modified VT100.TC
by removing the second %i, and I _think_ I was actually able to insert lines
in VI under Screen without GeoCrashing, but it was kinda difficult to tell,
because it only put text in the top line of the window, ignoring the other
23 lines altogether. ;)  [You try to fix one thing, and something else goes,
this reminds me of my days as a DOS programmer ;)]

	So, once again, I do NOT save the day (foo, foo, foo!) but at least
there's a little more food for thought.  A brief recap:

*	The vt-100 "cs" code doesn't seem to bother GeoComm when the cursor
	is below the 5th line of the GeoComm window.

*	The stock unix vt-100 termcap lists the "cs" code as \E[%i%d;%dr and
	GeoComm's VT100.TC termcap lists it as \E[%i%d;%i%dr - not the same.

	As always, if anyone wants to apply these ideas and maybe find a fix,
please feel free.  Comments are also welcome (better here than in mail, someone
else might actually find this interesting... ;).

	Have a happy holiday, or I'll put "cs" codes in my posts!  *evil grin*

				-Shag
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From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: GEOS backgrounds
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:10:00 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Dec29.142717.4752@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> doug-taylor+@osu.edu writes:
>
>After you use piclab to scale and remap the gif file, you need to
>convert it to either PCX or TIFF format.  Graphics Workshop is an
>excellent shareware product for doing this, and it's available for
>anonymous ftp at any Simtel mirror site.
>
>Then enter GEOS and fire up GeoDraw.  Use the Import function (from
>the File menu) to import your PCX or TIFF file.  Then make sure the
>image is "selected" (ie, has the little select boxes on it) and use
>the Edit menu to Cut or Copy it.
>
>When you've done that, fire up Preferences, select Background, and
>click on the "get background from clipboard" button.  The image you
>cut or copied becomes your new background.
>-- 
>   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
>   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
>   doug-taylor+@osu.edu                |            - A Course in Miracles

I did an archie on graphics workshop but only found references to
GNU's graphics-0.17.tar.Z which if I am not mistaken is for UNIX
workstations. Which Graphics Workshop were you refering to?
don

btw what do I resize the .gif files to?
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: The Adventures of Shag, in the GeoComm Dimension....
Keywords: Debugging without a Debugger.  Ack Ptooie.
Date: 27 Dec 92 02:00:02 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:

>Man, you must really like to torture yourself...  :-)

>In your (Shag) modified vt100.tc file, you should probably move the
>definition for command 40 to be the first command since it is a superset of
>commands that happen to precede it.  
>GeoComm supposedly only looks for a semi-colon as comment delimiter if it's
>the *first* line in the file and should be usable elsewhere in the file
>without problems (but who know? :-).  Therefore the various commented
>versions of the .tc files should probably not work.

_Now_ he tells us. ;)  [Gee, I've been called masochistic by a paintballer.
I must be _really_ bad. ;)]

A friend of mine at a university who's picked up the working model (and
impressed the socks off his co-workers with it, I think) is also keeping up
with this through conversations on a BBS he runs on the net (Prism BBS,
telnet to bbs.fdu.edu, login as bbs, look in the Alternate Computing> base),
and he's got some ideas, but isn't saying what they are.

I think I'll go off and crash my computer a few dozen more times - I'm getting
quite good at it. ;)

Thanks for the info, John... and Happy Holidays.

-Shag (working on a "Dear Easter Bunny" letter asking for GEOS 2.0...)

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From: Nasir Haniffa <ACDH083%SAUPM00.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Help in GeoWrite (or a Geos II wish)
Reply-To: <pcgeos-list@pandora.sf.ca.us>
Organization: Pandora Systems	
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 02:35:57 GMT
Originator: pcgeos-list@pandora.sf.ca.us


  I faced a problem newly with geowrite when I was completing my manual
to Perinatal DataSytem.

 The problem is: the indent seems to be not working when printing on a laser
 printer using the high resolution.

 I am sure I did the indent to be full and it shows ok in the display and print
s ok with medium and low resolution.. ( so my proofs were Ok )
 but when I got my final copy for printing with high resolution, I lost the ind
ent.

I did not have this problem when I printed my first manual ( Personal Diary ).

What do you thing the problem is?
any one?.. I am using HP laserJET III.
Thanks in advance..  NAsir Haniffa
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: geos broken
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:33:59 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:

>Now the system won't even load - indicates that the kernel is being
>handed a bad handle? I am wearing out by FDD

What sort of resources (RAM, disk) does your system have, and how old is it,
particularly the hard drive?  If GEOS is saying you've got a disk problem,
it just _might_ be right. :)

-Shag

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Subject: Re: How do you use GEOS? How would you like to use v2?
From: harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 23 Dec 1992 07:33:23 GMT
Reply-To: harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 <Dec.18.16.20.18.1992.14254@pilot.njin.net>,<1992Dec21.135233.29700@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Dec21.135233.29700@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor) writes:
>Maybe TCP/IP is a niche product, but if it runs under GEOS it should
>be part of the OS, not a separate app.  I'd like to see it as an
>option in the Modem section of Preferences, along with the other means
>for telecommunication.  ("Lessee, do I want COM1, COM2, or TCP/IP?")
>
>If it's in the OS, then the people who write telecom programs for GEOS
>could have automatic TCP/IP support without re-inventing that
>particular wheel each time.  Reusability is what an OOOS is all about,
>no?  We also wouldn't have the same trouble with competing standards
>that currently plagues the DOS world.  (I was happily using packet
>drivers until I was told I had to run one particular app that supports
>*only* NDIS.  Sheesh!)

I for one don't think it should be in the OS.. My idea is that all hardware
interfacing of any sort should be handled by drivers, and that includes comms! 
In that way, you could choose from a list of drivers, same as you choose from a 
list of printers, a list of soundcards, or any other hardware interface.  That
way *any* comms package would have access to the comm ports, TCP/IP, aome of
those fancy multi-port interface boards, and stuff on other types of networks,
and any new type of comms that anyone may care to invent in the future.... 
This way you would have a standard 'comms' object, ant the programs wouldnt
know or care what they were actualy connected to.

Of course this might create confusion with such things as dialing
directories.... (ie do they contain telephone nos, or IP Nos...) I spose you
could make them generic, so it wouldn't matter, but that might confuse the new
user ( so what *does* go in the 'access code' section...? prehaps the aera
code....no, oh well, ring tech support... :-) )

comments anyone?  

>BTW, if your buddies at FTP are planning to write an X-server for
>GEOS, I might buy a copy for myself.  Running X-Windows on my little

Xwindows could be neat, but from what I've seen it may require a touch more
memory than the minimom GEOS system... But we shall see....  just a multi
windowed multiplexing comms program would do me....

| Adrian Harvey       (Harvey_A@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz)|
|             Windows?  Just say NO!               |
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: geos.ini
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:21:09 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:


>I have been unsuccessful in loading geos.ini into the notepad. It
>indicates it is in use. I am a little concerned since I was modifying
>the file (could have been outside GEOS) and fear I screwed something
>up. I reran install, thinking it would restore the file, before I
>learned that there is a backup of geos.ini which in system which
>install overwrites. Should I be able to load geos.ini into the
>notepad? If so, how can I restore my desktop (short of reinstalling
>all of GEOS)?

You should *not* be able to load GEOS.INI into the notepad, because any time
you're running GEOS, it really *is* in use - it's the configuration for GEOS,
basically.  If you want to edit it, drop out of GEOS, and use a DOS-based
editor to edit it, then re-run GEOs.  No reinstall needed.

Happy Holiday Hacking,

	-Shag

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: xmodem info needed
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:34:02 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III) writes:

>I'd like to be able to use Geocomm's xmodem to upload/download files to/from
>my university's system.  However, nowhere can I find any documentation on
>how to do so.  

Presuming you want to transfer files to and from cs.montana.edu, which runs
Ultrix (DEC's version of Unix), you should be able to find some documentation
on _that_ end of things by typing 'man xmodem' - the system should respond
by presenting an electronic text "manual page" for the xmodem protocol,
showing you what commands to use.

-Shag

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: geos broken
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:24:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.211102.1795@afterlife.ncsc.mil> simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:
>Now the system won't even load - indicates that the kernel is being
>handed a bad handle? I am wearing out by FDD
>
>		 HHHHHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Well, have you tried calling GeoWorks' customer support yet?  That is there
job...  :-)

Happy New Year,
		John
		johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU

P.S.	#include <standard.employee.disclaimer>
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Third-Party Terminal Program for V2.0 (etc)
Keywords: Names Left Out to Protect Innocent
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:34:55 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest


An acquaintance of mine who's developing for GEOS 2.0 is presently working
on a terminal program that "will leave GeoComm in the dust."  I haven't
pressed him for details, but so far I know that it will include one popular
PC transfer protocol internally (other than x/y-modem), but that the makers
of a popular cross-platform protocol have been "very obstinate" about
licensing their protocol for internal use without insanely high fees.

I've mentioned the idea of user-definable terminal types to him, and he
thinks it's a good idea - so maybe we'll eventually have something we can
play with and not get a GeoCrash. ;)

He's also been mumbling lately about bi-directional transfer protocols, and
support for soundcards, but those two are _firmly_ in the realm of rumors
for now.

-Shag (lusting after v2.0 now!)

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: geos broken
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:02:48 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:

>It often displays the "GEOS cannot read disk - disk may be bad -
>error"! I am having no bad luck with any other application.  
>...running DR-DOS 6.0 and GEOS V1.2... 

Are you running any disk-compression utilities, such as DR-DOS's SSTOR?

Just curious...

-Shag (and yes, I'll mail you those other files.)

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