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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #96
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:47:02 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 13 Apr 92       Volume 10 : Issue 96 

Today's Topics:

      [*] 1stBBS Remote User
      [*] BeforeDark 1.0.1
      [*] cat-mouse.hqx
      [*] Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 #1-39 Available
      [*] DisplayIT!
      [*] Excel Biorhythm Utility
      [*] MacPassword 3.90 Demo
      [*] Re: Prince of Persia Demo 1/11
      "Street price" of Lotus 123 Mac
      (Q) UNIX Troff File -> MS Word??
      (Q) Using a Mac SE as an answering machine/fax for extended periods
      .hqx files
      512k simms on SE (Q)
      Accelerators w/video (Q)
      alleged Mac virus -- MS Word temporary files
      Announcing Mondo QuickTime Movies!
      Apollo 0.8 conflicts (SndControl & TOM inits)
      Apollo Crashes (2 msgs)
      BackFAX Version 1.51 or newer?
      Bootable RAM Disks (A)
      C.S.M.P. Digest V1 #40-49 Available
      Clicking sound on PB170 (2 msgs)
      Converting TeX to Word... Seriously!
      Cryptic error messages
      Death of the IIsi -- Hardly
      Demon Dial 1.11
      E-machines softeware (q)
      File Protection
      Finder Bus Error???
      Finder Info 1.0.1 Filename Bug
      Floppy Desktop Files (C)
      Hand Scanners [Q]
      Hard drive icon trouble
      How do you generate the clover symbol on command key?  (A)
      How To FTP?
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #95
      Info-mac duplicates for other systems
      info-mac in print?
      Isopropanol (really last time, I hope)
      Laser Writer + & tuned sys 7 (Q)
      LISTSERV File Xfer
      Locking out LWs
      MacTutor address ??
      Open Files and Folders
      Out of memory?!?
      PowerBook 170 internal modem
      PowerBook Screen Savers
      Problems with Darkside 3.0
      Reverse Init?
      Runaway System memory size...
      Russian system  (Q)
      Terminal 2.2
      TOM II 1.0b1.1 vs PopChar 2.5.2
      TrueType and Bitmaps fonts
      Tune-Ups (Q)
      VersaTerm & VersaTerm-PRO (C)

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Date: 13 Apr 92 13:28:00 EDT
From: "Norman Steffen" <sa1815@natc1.natc.navy.mil>
Subject: [*] 1stBBS Remote User

Hello netters.

In my search for a BBS that our local MAC users group could use on our LocalTalk/Ethernet/Broadband system I ran across 1stBBS.

It is kinda a long story but those of you who "remember" 128k of RAM might remember 1stBase, the first (I think) relational database for the MAC. That company (resold) still exists (sorta, their primary business is TUBING FABRICATION) and offer an inter
sting line of communication products that might be of interest to MUG's and Mac BBS operators.

Attached is the remote required to access the company's (1stDESK) "FREE" BBS via 800 number. 1-800-232-4283.

Good Luck.

Norm

INTERNET: nsteffen@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil


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The whole thing must really "MAC LIKE" because I got it running before reading the READ ME which is also attached.

After UNBINHEXing and UnStuffing.  Double click on the "1stDESK Settings" Icon.  Then edit the two "Settings..." (User & Connection) selections under the EDIT menu. 

CONNECTION Settings:

You gotta figure that one out yourself but is is really pretty "MAC LIKE"  :-) if you know how your modem is set. You will have to modify the number dialed if you going through a PBX or such.....

USER Settings:

The system password is not used. 

You pick you own USERNAME.

->It is requested that users who get this from info-mac and down
->stream use the password "norm" when initially configuring.  This
->will aid 1st Desk in a head count they want.  After your initial
->access feel free to change you password.

Have Fun

INTERNET: nsteffen@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil

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[Archived as /info-mac/comm/1st-remote-user.hqx; 133K]

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:59:58 CDT
From: Brian Lakeman <lakeman@plains.NoDak.edu>
Subject: [*] BeforeDark 1.0.1

Here is a utility for changing the desktop pattern on the Macintosh.

 ------------------------------------------------------------------
Before Dark
In keeping with my NO INIT's or CDEV's philosophy here is a system 7 savvy 
application to collect and install desktop patterns (ppat resource's).

Before Dark installs ppat (PixelPattern) for your desktop background. The 
interface is very elegant in both usage and esthetics.  By using 64 x 64 
pixel ppat's you can create very complex background textures without having 
to use a PICT the size of your screen which saves memory. Over the years I 
have downloaded every public domain ppat resource I could find, and I think 
you'll agree you've never seen ones of the likes of these. 

The included patterns were designed by several professional graphic designers 
to be elegant and easy on the eyes.

Before Dark Features:
 1. 30 HIGH QUALITY desktop patterns created by several professional   
    graphic designers.
 2. No CDEVs or INITs.
 3. up to 64 by 64 pixel pattern size.
 4. Imports ppat resources out of any file.
 5. Balloon help.
 6. Installs patterns without having to mess with ResEdit or 
    rebooting.
 7. Smart Window remembers it's position on screen (and multiple 
    monitors).
 8. Ability to delete unwanted ppats from database.
 9. Comment feature lets you name patterns.
10. And more...

Usage
It is very straight forward, use balloon help to find out the option 
clicks and shortcuts...

Yes, this is a shareware product. If you plan to use 
this on a  regular basis or want to see more quality
shareware software, please send $10.00 to:

Craig Marciniak
908 Yellowbrick Road
Chaska,MN. 55318

Thank You For Your Support!

Comments/Bug Reports/Chit-Chat can be sent to:
AOL:TemplarDev
AppleLink: L.Solutions

[Archivist's note: This program requires System 7 - Michael]
[Archived as /info-mac/util/before-dark-app-101.hqx; 130K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:33:28 PDT
From: perry@mackerel.wti.com (Michael Perry)
Subject: [*] cat-mouse.hqx

	this is an implementation of a two player card game (that is,
playing cards, NOT Hypercard) called "Cat 'N Mouse", or in other
circles, "Spite and Malice", or "Skip-Bo". 

It takes about 10 minutes to learn and is great fun to play, options
include a one-play mode (play against the computer).  Should work on
all machines running System 6.0.x or better (if not, let me know ;)  

Cat 'n Mouse is happiware.  If you like it, smile a lot.  (no one may
charge a real fee for it, I retain all rights)

	Mike Perry

You can send bugs, flames, jokes, etc... to :

	perry@wavefront.wti.com

[Archived as /info-mac/game/cat-n-mouse.hqx; 74K]

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:04:43 PDT
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <mkelly@cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: [*] Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 #1-39 Available

The Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest is now available on sumex.  I have just
uploaded Volume 1 Issues #1 through #39.  I will add new issues ten at a
time.  Each issue is archived separately, as
/info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v?-???.txt. Please read csmp-readme before
downloading the digests.
 
The rest of this article is from the header of the digests.
 
The Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest is moderated by Michael A. Kelly.
 
These digests are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, your email
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Questions list.  The last several issues of the digest are available from
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These digests are also available via email.  Just send a note saying that you
want to be on the digest mailing list to mkelly@cs.uoregon.edu, and you will
automatically receive each new digest as it is created.
 
The articles in these digests are taken directly from comp.sys.mac.programmer.
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Send administrative mail to mkelly@cs.uoregon.edu.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 9:25:58 CDT
From: jason@hermes.cray.com (Jason D Parker)
Subject: [*] DisplayIT!

DisplayIT! is a HyperCard 2.0 shareware utility for easily displaying
information.  It also contains other goodies.  DisplayIT! allows you
to execute a display as a script, display a history of message box
commands, display a list of all handlers in the current message
passing hierarchy and quickly create a menu of the on handlers of
the current stack.

-Jason Parker
jason@cray.com

[Archived as /info-mac/card/display-it.hqx; 53K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:20:35 -0600
From: Nicole Lassiter <kscott@brahms.udel.edu> (by way of chrisj@emx.utexas.edu (Chris Johnson))
Subject: [*] Excel Biorhythm Utility

Enclosed find a nice Excel biorhythm utility and some Excel
charts with errorbars.  The biorhythm utility is not only a fun
toy but a good example of add-in menu programming.
Requires Excel 3.0 or greater.

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/excel-biorhythms.hqx; 37K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 10:57:31 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: [*] MacPassword 3.90 Demo

This is the demo version of MacPassword 3.90 ($35 shareware by Art
Schumer). I've been a happy user for a couple years. It does not
allow my system to be booted from hard disk without the password.
If extensions are disabled (shift boot) or the system is booted from
floppy, the hard disk shows up as (1) locked and (2) empty. This demo
version encourages you to pay the shareware fee by being (1) crippled
a bit -- some features are disabled and (2) time dependent -- you have 60
days before it deactivates itself.

I've no connection with Art Schumer or Evergreen Software. This is a
binhex-4 encoded self extracting archive downloaded from CompuServe.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/mac-password-39.hqx; 221K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 10:16:56 EDT
From: ylsul@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: [*] Re: Prince of Persia Demo 1/11

Hi!
Is this what you mean?


Prince Of Persia:

The files proper are the executable and a black and white and color
module. There is also a special module for the color LC.

I used StuffIt Classic to create a single archive folder. It was then
binhex'd and 'split' to you.

This is a demo that allows you to play the first 2 levels of a 25 (I think)
level adventure. Your object: rescue the princess from the evil Grand Vizier
Jaffar. Game play is similar to Silicon Beach's Dark Castle series.


			-y

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/prince-of-persia.hqx; 1649K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:31:58 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: "Street price" of Lotus 123 Mac

On Sun, 12 Apr 92 14:16 N you said:
>Last year there was this message in TidBITS:
>"...owners of Jazz for the Macintosh will be able to upgrade to Mac Lotus
>1-2-3 for only $49".
>
>Is this the upgrade offer in the U.S.A. now ?  What do they want to do the
>upgrade ?

If you can make it to MacWorld in August, I expect you'll be able to buy
at the same price Lotus was selling it for at the Boston Computer
Society's MegaMac meeting in March -- $49 (no upgrade, no side grade, no
questions, just $49).  I guess it's not selling too well in a market
where most folks who need heavy spreadsheets already have some flavor of
Excel.  However, I've got it; and I think it's rather nice (it
translates MeSsy DOS WKx files better than Excel does).

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:38:03 -0700
From: James Miller <jmiller@uop.uop.edu>
Subject: (Q) UNIX Troff File -> MS Word??

If you get any responses to this question, could you forward them on to me? I
too have the same need. Thanks in advance......james

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:58:34 BST
From: Bernard Khoo <BCEK1%PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: (Q) Using a Mac SE as an answering machine/fax for extended periods

I have recently acquired a DoveFax+ and have it currently hooked up to an old
Mac SE of mine. My question is: are there any long-term effects from running
the computer for extended periods, as will be required when using it as a
glorified answering machine/fax? I have After Dark installed, so screen burn-in
should not be any problem. The Mac SE has seen quite some use already (I bought
it back in 1989).

Thanks a lot... Bernard Khoo.

Please reply to: BCEK1@uk.ac.cambridge.phoenix

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Date: 13 Apr 92 12:47:07 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: .hqx files

                       Subject:
                       .hqx files
	I got some files which external name by .hqx, I know it is a
	format of compression, but I don't know what application
	program can handle this. Would anybody out there tell me?
	Thanks for help!
						Eric Lam
	email : pony1@sun2cc.nccu.edu.tw
		u7836054@mis.nccu.edu.tw

 ------------------------------------
It's an extension for the BinHex method of compression.  You use Stuffit to
uncompress it.


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 21:04:47 EDT
From: George <ST701640@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: 512k simms on SE (Q)

Hey, netters,
     I was wondering if it was possible to get 1.5 megs by putting in 4 512k
megs, which I got from my new IIsi, into an SE, to get say, 2 megs out of it,
or would I necessarily have to purchase two 1 meg simms.  I'd rather not buy
anything else, but if I have to, alas, my money's spent.
     Thanks for all the help!

George
st701640@brownvm.brown.edu

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:15 AST
From: "Jerry Black (902) 426-2950" <GA_BLACK@bionet.bio.dfo.ca>
Subject: Accelerators w/video (Q)

Does anyone have any experience with the Magic RailGun 030Pro -MacProducts USA?
25 Mhz 68030 w/68882, 32 bit video path, 19" 1152x876 monitor for $999US.
This seems amazing, where's the catch?

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:43:11 EDT
From: dom manno <V1723G%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: alleged Mac virus -- MS Word temporary files

Ed Winograd of Colorado College wrote about a problem he was having with a
proliferation of MS Word temporary files. A freeware program called
Temperament will automatically erase those files. We use it in our lab here.
My supervisor got from Compuserve, but speculates that it might be available
through the archives at sumex-aim.

Hope this helps.

Take it easy, but take it!
Dom Manno
Journalism Graphics Lab, Temple University
(v1723g@vm.temple.edu)

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:00:55 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: Announcing Mondo QuickTime Movies!

I have my VideoSpigot and in lieu of a detailed review, which I still mean to
write, I have posted some movies on ftp.apple.com in the /pub/pugh/quicktime
directory.  There are 4 movies of large (2 to 11 MB) size, so these are
stored in MacBinary format, not Binhex.  These cannot be mailed, so don't
ask me to.  If you can't get them from here, then I'm very sorry, but that's
the way it is.  Sumex doesn't have enough room to echo these frivolous files.

The movies are:

georgejungle.bin - the intro to George of the Jungle -- 5MB
superchicken.bin - the intro to Super Chicken -- 2MB
tomslick.bin - the intro to Tom Slick -- 2.7MB
-- all of these are Jay Ward cartoons from 1967 --
-- Jay was one of the chief Bullwinkle creators --
-- these are 16 bit, 15 fps & 11 KHz --

deadrockers.bin - this is a song by Steven Banks -- 11.4MB
-- from his ShowTime special "Steven Banks - Home Entertainment Center" --
-- quote: "Rock & Roll will never die, but rock & rollers do" --
-- this is a tasteless litaney of famous dead people - I love it --
-- this is 16 bit, 10 fps & 11 KHz --

Enjoy!

Jon

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Date: 13 Apr 92 15:13:00 EST
From: "IMVS2::BTROEN" <BTROEN%IMVS2.decnet@uv1.im.med.umich.edu>
Subject: Apollo 0.8 conflicts (SndControl & TOM inits)

Just tried Apollo 0.8b on my IIsi running system 7.01 (with tune-up 1.0) and 
found that it is incompatible with SndControl and the new TOM init.  Apollo 0.7 
had no difficulties with SndControl.

Any one else had difficulties?  Otherwise, Apollo continues to evolve very 
nicely.  I have both NOW utilities Multi-Master and OnCue II, but I prefer to 
use Apollo.  I hope these incompatibilities are not major and can be fixed.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:29:38 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Apollo Crashes

On Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:38 EDT you said:
>I just tried to install the latest version of Apollo on my system.  When I
>restarted the machiene --> WHAMMO!  System crash!  I got into the system and
>tossed Apollo and now everything is working OK again.

Works fine for me (Quadra 700, PB 170).  I've talked to someone who's
running it on a IIsi.  You don't mention which Mac and what System
version you're having a problem on (earlier versions had problems on
68000 machines running System 6).  Are you running any of the items
listed under "conflicts?"

I found a work around for the ShortCut conflict: simply click ShortCut's
OFF switch while configuring Apollo (INCLUDING using the converter
utility).  ShortCut and Apollo get along if Apollo's just opening
folder's and launching stuff.

I got a deal at MegaMac on the Now Utilities, so I'm running
SuperBoomerang at the moment.  I looked at MultiMaster; Apollo appears
to have it beat hands down (beat for Now? ;-)

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:00:25 PDT
From: 6500scv1%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Steven C. Velasco)
Subject: Apollo Crashes

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>WARNING!

>I just tried to install the latest version of Apollo on my system.  When I
>restarted the machiene --> WHAMMO!  System crash!  I got into the system and
>tossed Apollo and now everything is working OK again.  Anyone else have a
>similar problem?  Anyone have a solution?

>D. Brian Carr
>University of Richmond
>CARRDAVID@urvax.urich.edu

I too have had a similar experience.  I tried to install Apollo .8b1
on a friends SE last night and it wouldn't even finish booting up 
before it crashed.  He is running system 6.03 and has MacsBugs (an
archaic screensaver), and something called SoundManger or sound-some-
thing or another, and version 2.4 of the disinfectant init.  I talked
him into removing the MacsBugs, but that did not work.  It still
crashed.  I am running apollo on a MacPlus with sys version 6.03
and vers. 2.71 of the disenfectant init and have had no problem.
Because of this, I suspect that it is an incompatlibility with
Sound Manager(or whatever it is called).  I couldn't get him to part
with his sounds, and he didn't want to mess with it so I couldn't
confirm this.  Do you have anything like SoundMananger (it makes
obnoxious little statements whenever you start-up, shut-down, insert
a disk or eject a disk).  If so, this could be the problem.  If 
you have already figured out the problem could you please let me
know what it was?  Thanks in advance.
--Steven

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 12:09:05 GMT
From: JUERG <kellerj@cheque.uq.oz.au>
Subject: BackFAX Version 1.51 or newer?

Hi everybody
I'm using an Orchid FAXModem running BackFAX software on my IIcx. Since I
still use System 6.0.4 I had no problem with my original version of the 
software. But I'd like to change to System 7 and would therefore need a
newer (Sys7 compatible) version of BackFAX. I sent Orchid Technology several
fax messages, but all I got so far is a reply saying they have a version 1.51
which the could send me free of charge. But nothing happened afterwards and 
the last two faxes were not even answered.
So my question is, whether someone on the net has this or a newer version
of the BackFAX software and where did you get it from? What did it cost and
if it's a free update for registered users could even someone send it over to
me (electronically or by snail-mail, I'll pay for postage)? I also read some-
thing about a version 2.0 to be sold by a Canadian company. Could anyone give
me their address and fax number?
Any help on this matter is welcome, since I don't want to be stuck with 
System 6 just because one application won't run under Sys7.

Thanks for all contributions! 

                              Jurg Keller  < kellerj@cheque.uq.oz.au >

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:09:54 -0400
From: "Jeffrey L. Needleman"76174.3364@compuserve.com
Subject: Bootable RAM Disks (A)

In 10-093, Christopher Barkley says:
>       I recently saw an article in one of the technical mags about a man who
>stuffed 32 megs of RAM into his IIci and ran a monster RAM disk on it.  The
>neat trick was, he has gotten his actual system folder on there so that he
>could take advantage of the great speed for the System resources, etc.  Does
>anyone know how such a trick might be accomplished? 

The commercial program Maxima from Connectix allows that; it's available
for $45 from the mail-order houses despite its list price of $129. With the
16MB simms now being sold, you can stuff 128MB of RAM into a IIci. Even if
you use 24-bit addressing (some applications still aren't 32-bit clean),
Maxima will let you use ALL the unused RAM of your machine as a RAM disk,
and can use up to 14 MB of RAM as system memory by some clever uses of
memory that your Mac isn't using, such as the 1MB reserved for each unused
Nubus slot. In 32-bit mode, of course there are no such limits. I've been
using Maxima for about six months as a start-up RAM disk and can report no
problems whatever--it survives system crashes and power failures. The only
conflict I know of is with DeskTopReset from Salient; only trigger
DeskTopReset after your RAM disk has loaded, as the Salient instructions
warn. If your System Folder is huge and you're using System 7, a judicious
use of aliases for the junk in it will pare it down to the size that makes
sense for a RAM disk (assuming you, like me, aren't fortunate enough to
have 128MB of RAM!).

Jeff Needleman

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:50:23 -0700
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <mkelly@cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: C.S.M.P. Digest V1 #40-49 Available

The Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 Issues 40 through 49 are now
available, archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-???.txt.
 
Mike.

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:39:42 CDT
From: Bandwidth Pig <harwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject: Clicking sound on PB170

The clicking sound is caused by two things:

1). you hear the audio circuit cut out after 15 seconds of disuse

2). a capacitor is feeding back into the audio curcuit 

Apple knows about these complaints and as far as I can tell plans to do nothing
about it in the current iteration of the PowerBook 170. They have their hands
full just trying to decide what to do about the floppy drive that sometimes
doesn't read diskettes. This problem will probably be addressed in a future
PowerBook, but you (and I) are stuck with hearing clicks and pops for
the life of your current 170.

-abh

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:31:06 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Clicking sound on PB170

On Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:06:27 EDT you said:
>Does anybody know what the periodic clicking sound emitted by my Powerbook
>170 might be caused by? Is it a problem? I'd really appreciate an answer.

Not to worry, the sound is normal.  I believe it has something to do
with power saving (in spite of the fact that it also does it when it's
plugged into AC with the "don't sleep" option on).

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 16:42:57 PDT
From: rbhumbla@ames.ucsd.edu (Ravinder Bhumbla)
Subject: Converting TeX to Word... Seriously!

You wrote:

#   I would like to convert my TeX files on Unix to Word on the Mac.  Is there
#   any semi-automatic or even automatic way to do this?  I would be most
#   appreciative.  

There is a unix utility that converts TeX to plain text.  It is called
dvitty.  You then have to format if yourself - but at least you have
the plain text.  rtf2TeX works in the reverse direction by converting
RTF documents to TeX.

#   TeX is best left to masochists, IMHO... :-)

Or to people who have to deal with a lot of equations and are not
satisfied by the lousy formatting of so called Word Processors.

Or to people who have to handle big documents and like automatic
figure, equation, or citation handling without having to search for
and manually put the numbers.  (Actuallly I have heard that WordRef
does that reasonably well for Word documents - so maybe I should take
that back).

Oh No!  This is already degenarating into `My daddy can beat your
daddy!'.  Sorry about that. To each his own, I guess.

Ravi

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Date: 13 Apr 92 13:03:42 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Cryptic error messages

                       Subject:
                       Cryptic error messages
>One thing that has always struck me as a most bizarre anomaly in 
>the Macintosh world, is the numeric error messages.
>
>Why doesn't the Mac give any description (bus error, divide by 
>zero) in the error alert?

Those with enough knowledge to know what it means also know where to look up
the "cryptic" number.

To top it off, even if the error message is informative, it doesn't
do most people much good. 
 ------------------------------------
True, a single-line explanation of an error is pretty confusing.  What's needed
is a more detailed description of what caused the problem and possible
solutions.  I've encountered a great resource which has helped me immensely in
many situations.  It's called the B&C (for Bomb & Crash) Encyclopedia, a
shareware Hypercard stack.  Contact Erik C. Thauvin at MacSpect Inc., 2269
Chestnut Street Suite 338, San Francisco, CA 94123, Phone (415) 346-9661 or at
Internet address 76234.2743@compuserve.com.

I am not affiliated with the company in any way, shape, or form other than
using their product and being very happy with it.


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: 13 Apr 92 12:49:25 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Death of the IIsi -- Hardly

                       Subject:
                       Death of the IIsi -- Hardly!
On the LC II....

It's a really good price/value, probably a IIsi killer.  I have a question
about its 68030 CPU though.  Is it the same cheap one used in the Classic II
(16 bit path) or is it the full-blown version (32 bit path)?

 ------------------------------------
I doubt it's going to kill the IIsi.  The LC hasn't, and the LC II isn't
radically different from the LC --- just a 68030 processor with built-in PMMU
to make use of virtual memory.  The rest of the components in the LC II haven't
been configured to make use of the faster '030 processor.  The IIsi makes use
of a 32-bit data path which allows for better speed than the LC II's (still!)
16-bit data path.  Check the May '92 issue of MacWorld mag for comparisons and
benchmarks of the LC II vs. the LC, II, IIsi, and SE/30.


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: 13 Apr 92 01:56:56 EDT
From: Robert Hess <74660.612@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Demon Dial 1.11

Elliotte Rusty Harold write about Demon Dial 1.11.

"Demon dialing" is illegal. In fact, even dialing the same phone
number in your favorite telecommunications program more than 15 times
without user intervention is illegal. I'm amazed that the Digest
would include a file whose sole purpose is illegal and, at least,
incredibly irritating.

By the way, if you own White Knight you'll notice that selecting the
command to auto-dial a phone number defaults to 15 redials before it
quits. This is because Scott Watson knows his law (maybe not much
else ;)...he can let YOU change that value, but th
 law-breaking is yours.

Robert Hess

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:25:52 EST
From: ZMEG000 <ZMEG%AACC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: E-machines softeware (q)

   Does anyone have v3.3, or 3.4 of the E-machines monitor
software? I own an old E-machines monitor and NEED the up
date because of system 7. They make it available on
applelink, but nowhere else. Don't know why since you have
to have an e-machines monitor to use it. Can someone upload it
here?? (if it is legal of course.)

    Also on an ImageWriter You WANT to use TrueType (or Type 1
with ATM). It will make a drastic improvement in the text!

-----Mike

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:38:02 -0700
From: Stew_Lynch@sfu.ca
Subject: File Protection

MacTools allows you to set the protection bit on an application so that it
cannot be copied or trashed.  Is there a shareware product that does the
same thing? ResEdit shows the protection bit but does not allow me to set
it.

I have a lot of copyrighted software installed on a server with no
encryption and would like to set the bit so that it would discourage most
people from copying the software.  If the sharewar product is archived here
could someone please tell me?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 12:38:24 BST
From: A.L.Radtke@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Finder Bus Error???

G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu wrote:
> The error message which the computer spits up, is:  A FINDER BUS ERROR whatever
> that is...and the Error message dialog box has a little restart button which
> sometimes restarts the computer but at other times does not.  All of the inits
> installed are 32 Bit clean...the work on Mac 2SIs, 2CIs as well as on my Mac LC

That is exactly the problem I'm having, as highlighted in my recent
message on info-mac. Have you been having any problems with the Hard
Disk? I got the Bus Errors withz System 7 with Tune-Up 1.1.1 on my Mac
II. Except mine crashes when I run a program such as Word. The restart
button does not always work, when I click on it the error changes to
address error.

I feel sure we've got the same problem; so what's the cure anyone? My
Mac II has worked fine for four years up to an including system 6.0.7.
I'm really upset!

-- 
Drew Radtke * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:43:53 PDT
From: Talcott <talcott%cs@hub.ucsb.edu>
Subject: Finder Info 1.0.1 Filename Bug

Due to a programmer error, Finder Info 1.0.1 thinks that the maximum size of a
Macintosh filename is 32 characters.  We all know that the maximum size is
actually 31 characters.  As a result, if you enter a 32 character filename in
Finder Info 1.0.1, the program will accept it while the system will return a
fatal error of -37 (bad name in the file system) forcing Finder Info to quit
and your changes to be lost.

I have decided to delay the release of Finder Info 1.0.2 (which will fix this
problem) until I find out if there are any other problems which need to be
dealt with.  So, in the meantime, the solution is to avoid entering filenames
which are 32 characters long.  I hope this is not a problem.

Thanks,
Adam R. Talcott
talcott@grape.ucsb.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 09:45:21 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Floppy Desktop Files (C)

On Sat, 11 Apr, Tamer M Selim described

>...... a way to "zero" desktop files under both System 6 or 7.
>You MUST have DiskTop, and it must be set to Technical menus.

Not exactly MUST, Tamer. The "FileEdit" utility in MacTools Deluxe
does a good job, too. Just rename the Desktop file and click on the
box labelled "invisible" and quit. The next time the floppy is inserted
the Desktop file will be down to 0.5K or so, and the renamed old file
can be trashed.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:41:19 EDT
From: s0067284@Calvin.EDU (Jeffrey Veen)
Subject: Hand Scanners [Q]

I am interested in purchasing a hand-held scanner for my Mac Classic.  Anyone
have any experience?  I am looking at many options in the $300 range.  The
Logi-Tech ScanMan looks good and apparently comes with both graphics and
OCR software for $299.  Sounds like a good deal to me.  any ideas?

Thanks,
Jeff.
s0067284@calvin.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:58 EDT
From: CA95ME53@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU
Subject: Hard drive icon trouble

Hello,
Hopefully, someone can help me out there.  Because I am using filesharing, I
cannot replace my hard drive icon.  Even when I disable filesharing and 
restart, I cannot change the icon.  I used Icontraption to try and change the
icon.  Now it's just a generic document icon.  What happened?  Can anyone help? 
Thanks in advance.
_______*Matt Cable*______
|CA95ME53@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU|

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 21:59:14 EST
From: Thomas Fruin  <thomas@heraldo.apple.cl>
Subject: How do you generate the clover symbol on command key?  (A)

Dan Lunderville asks:

"How do you generate the clover symbol found on the command key on Mac
 keyboards?  I have searched through the fonts I have with PopChar, but
 I could not find it. I have the standard Mac fonts and the LaserWriter
 fonts."

The clover symbol can be found in the Chicago font. You generate it with
the Control-Q combination.

-- Thomas Fruin        Santiago, Chile        thomas@heraldo.apple.cl

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:49:55 EDT
From: dom manno <V1723G%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: How To FTP?

Barry Hall (DRBH@dbl.cc.rochester.edu) asked how to go about FTP'ing.
FTP (file transfer protocol) is a way to transfer files over Internet.
For instance, to obtain files from the info-mac archives:
(Disclaimer: at least this is how it works on my machine. If the instructions
             are machine-specific, I'm sorry.)

1) type ftp info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
2) you will be prompted for a password. type anonymous (lower case please)
3) you will then be prompted for a userid. You can reply with guest, but it's
   better to reply with your own id and your address (e.g., I reply v1723g@
   templevm).
4) if you're accepted, type cd info-mac, then dir. this gives you a list of the
 directories available. type cd and the name of the directory you're interested
 in (e.g., cd app) and then dir again for a list of the files available.
5) to transfer any file, type get filename, where filename is the name of the
   you wish to transfer. It will be transferred to your account. You'll then
   have to debinhex it and unstuffit and all that good stuff.

In the report directory on the archives is a file listing ftp site addresses.
You may want to download that file for more sites you can ftp from.

Hope this helps.

Take it easy, but take it!
Dom Manno
Journalism Graphics Lab, Temple University
(v1723g@vm.temple.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 09:22:33 EDT
From: "GEORGE L. VENABLE" <MNHEN038%SIVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #95

To the person who asked about the Stylewriter [Suad?]
  I have had excellent results with the stylewriter, and have put
it thru some pretty hard trials, including six weeks in the Peruvian
rainforest.  To date I have used almost a dozen cartridges in it with
no problems.  I do have a problem with the drivers however, the
original driver was slow, but would print files from Illustrator with
exceptional results.  The new driver is fast, but makes hash of many
of my graphics files. My solution is to have both drivers available
with unique names, so that I know which is which in the chooser. I
have found that Illustrator files sometimes look better from the
stylewriter than my laser printer, as the minute diffusion of the ink
softens the edges, and eliminates much of the tiny jaggies that even
a laser printer shows.
George L. Venable, Smithsonian Institution

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 8:46:48 EST
From: Tkelley@HEL4.BRL.MIL
Subject: Info-mac duplicates for other systems

	Can somebody out there tell me if there is an info-mac type digest
	for UNIX systems? And maybe one for DOS as well?

	Thanks

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:53:02 EDT
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Subject: info-mac in print?

My friend told me you just started printed version of infomac
through a local book store in Taiwan.  They even  use the
name "info mac" as the title of that magazine.

Will you do the same in U.S. in the near future?

[I have nothing to do with any reselling of Info-Mac in any form. My
 involvement ends when the digests get mailed. -Bill]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:20:28 -0800
From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca
Subject: Isopropanol (really last time, I hope)

In the last few Info-Macs several people (including myself) discussed the
relative merits of erasers and varieties of alcohol. I must pass on a
warning I received about using drug-store rubbing alcohol (which I
recommended! <blush>). While it does contain isopropanol, it often contains
about 30% something else, usually glycerin, which gums up contacts quite
nicely. Check the label!

Cheers

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:52:21 EST
From: ZMEG000 <ZMEG%AACC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Laser Writer + & tuned sys 7 (Q)

    This was answer a couple of days ago, but I lost the message.
Someone said there were some utilities for the laserwriter+ to
help it with its problem of huge postscript files under sys 7??
I forgot where this file was and what is was called. Can anyone help
me??? Thanks!

Take care,
    Mike

------------------------------

Date: 13 Apr 92 18:28 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: LISTSERV File Xfer

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
SentBy: Robert Hess
 
                       Subject:                               Time:11:21 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          LISTSERV File Xfer                     Date:4/13/92
I find it odd that some files on Rice's ListServ are >256K and there is a
limit of 256K/day downloadable. Is there another site from which files may be
requested? Is there a site which maintains a collection of files more similar
to what is reported in IMD and available via ftp from sumex?
 
Robert "ftpless" Hess
 

------------------------------

Date: 13 Apr 92 12:48:21 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Locking out LWs

                       Subject:
                       Locking out LWs
Does ANYBODY know how I can lock a printer OUT so that only certian users can
use it? I have a PAINTWRITER that I want only ART STUDENTS to use, and I want
to keep all other hacks off.  I was thinking about playing with the driver
maybe. I can NOT send PS commands as it NOT a PS printer. Thanx-
 ------------------------------------
I don't know if this will help you, but there is a control panel called
"LaserWriter-Lockout".  It's found in: 
      info-mac/cp/laserwriter-lockout-11.hqx on sumex.


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:26:27 CDT
From: Larry Pickett <C4898@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU>
Subject: MacTutor address ??

Does MacTutor still exist?  Does anyone have their address?  One of
our music faculty has an xcmd in 'Midi Recorder' and he needs to
interpret what that data means since the incoming data isn't in a
standard midi format.  Xcmd was apparently origionally writen by someone
in Japan.  Any help would be appreciated.

------------------------------

Date: 13 Apr 1992 12:07:12 -0500
From: David Shorr <shorr@draper.com>
Subject: Open Files and Folders

	I have a question about open folders and files; if I close a file in a
program, why can't I delete the folder that contains it(and only it)?  For
example: I close a file in Word 5 and switch to the Finder layer; I drag the
folder containing the one file into the trash can.  It then tells me that the
folder is in use, do I wish to stop or continue?  Clicking on either button
erases the file but not the folder!  This happens both with System 6.0.5 and
System 7.0.1 with 7-Up 1.1.1 and is NOT restricted to Microsoft programs:). 
Thanks in advance for any answers(technical answers are welcomed although they
may not be fully understood<g>).

Dave Shorr
Shorr@draper.com



  Subject:                                        Time:              Date:
  Open Files and Folders                          12:12 PM           4/13/92

------------------------------

Date: 13 Apr 92 12:50:39 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Out of memory?!?

                       Subject:
                       Out of memory?!?
I wish to second the April 6 comments of Hisham Abboud.  I have seen a
(admittedly hazy and not yet replicable) number of problems crop up after
installing v1.1 of the Tuner, namely an increase in system crashes (from almost
none) and some very strange memory behavior from previously stable applications
(Eudora comes to mind - it now tells me at regular intervals that "You are low
on memory - close some windows NOW!"  when it is the only application running
in 8 Mb and the system says that there are >5 Mb free).  Anyone else?
 ------------------------------------
I have a Mac IIcx with 8 MB of memory, and sometimes encounter the same thing
even when I'm at the Finder level.  A couple of times all I have open is System
7 Finder with TuneUp 1.0 and QuickMail 2.5 and maybe a couple of windows.  But
when I try to open a new window in the Finder, I'll get the message that I'm
low on memory and to close open windows or applications to free up memory. 
I've got quite a few extensions loaded, but they load in all the time and the
memory problem doesn't happen consistently.   I've usually had to reboot to
reclaim the memory (closing down windows and applications has worked only
once).  It's acting almost as if there's fragmented memory (I have opened and
closed several applications and documents prior to the error) and it can't find
enough contiguous memory to operate.  But I thought that that was one of the
"fixes" that Tune-Up was supposed to address.   Any thoughts on this?


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 13:41:45 PDT
From: doug@ap.nisd.cam.unisys.com (Doug Hardie)
Subject: PowerBook 170 internal modem

I have finally solved the problem (with significant help from Apple).

The problem has to do with the internal modem's use of the mmp5 error 
correcting code.  Most modems don't handle it and by the time the powerbook
modem figures out that it should not use it, things have gone away.

The command "AT&Q0" to the powerbook modem turns off that mode and then
everything connects and works as expected.

A note to jason@uknet.ac.uk (Jason_Proctor)

I can't respond to your mail as your mailer claims no knowledge of you.

You need MIDI Manager 2.0.1 to work properly with System 7 (and probably the
powerbook as well).  I use it and it works fine.

-- Doug

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:39:00 PDT
From: doug@ap.nisd.cam.unisys.com (Doug Hardie)
Subject: PowerBook Screen Savers

After reading some of the comments on power saving on the Power Book screens,
It would appear that the basic background for a powerbook screen saver should
be white, not black is is normal for CRTs.

-- Doug

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 08:29:49 -0400
From: lhawkins@annie.wellesley.edu
Subject: Problems with Darkside 3.0

I have had a problem with Darkside of the Mac v3.0.  Namely, when I
run NCSA Telnet v2.4.5, Darkside either quits (after some delay) with
a Type 1 error, or hangs my mac.  My config is a Mac IIci, 20Mb memory,
Daystar Cache card, Sys. 7.0.1 (Tuned).  The previous version of 
Darkside worked fine, never a problem, and since the new RunRun fader
(which I really liked) now looks really useless, I guess I'll go back
to the old version.


--Lee

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:37:17 CDT
From: fieldm@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (David Fiel)
Subject: Reverse Init?

	Does anyone out on the net have or know how to get the old Reverse INIT.All it did was invert the Screen on a Mac Plus, etc.  If so, please send me a copy or directions.  Thanks.

Dave Fiel
fieldm@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
fieldm@129.59.100.52
"Stay cool."

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:16:34 -0400
From: castlet%1.51.dnet@gte.com (OPUS)
Subject: Runaway System memory size...

It seems like I read something about a problem like this here sometime within
the past few months...

One of our users has a Mac II with 4 MB RAM, 40 MB internal HD, monochrome
monitor, System 6.0.8. Pulling down "About the Finder" from the Apple menu
shows the System is taking up over 2.2 MB right after startup, without any 
INITS. Booting from his internal HD, with its INITS, uses over 2.6 MB, booting
>From the 6.0.8 System Tools diskette uses right around 2.2 MB. I've checked
the heap size using HeapFixer, reformatted his hard disk drive, re-installed 
the System software, and have done everything I can think of, our in-house 
hardware guru can think of, and I can't figure anything out.

Has anyone else ever come across this problem?

       -Tim Castle
        castlet%gtewd.dnet@gte.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 12:37:12 EST
From: Steve Solnick <SLS@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject: Russian system  (Q)

Two quick questions for the net:
   Anyone know how I can get my hands on the Russian version of
the Mac OS (preferably Sys7, but 6.0.x would do).  I know it's
out there somewhere, but I can't seem to find it on the
ftp.apple.com.
   And what was wrong with the prematurely released Tune-Up 1.1?
Am I an accident waiting to happen if I do't shred it immediately?
   Thanks in advance...
Steve Solnick
CFIA, Harvard University

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:09:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: SCHENKL@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu
Subject: Terminal 2.2

Where could I find the latest version of Terminal, which I believe is 2.2. I 
was told that it was lib 4 of the MACCOM, in the file TERM22.cpt which could be 
found on sumex-aim.stanford.edu. If you could point me in the right direction, 
towards a BinHexed version perhaps, I would be greatfull.
 
SCHENKL@vax.cs.hscsry.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:25:04 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: TOM II 1.0b1.1 vs PopChar 2.5.2

I've been in touch with Rodney Magnuson who wrote TOM II (the tear off
menus utility).  He says he's eliminated the source of the problem with
PopChar.  Version 1.0b2 should be along later in the week.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 13:26:22 +0200
From: Christoph van Wuellen <HBO043%DJUKFA11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: TrueType and Bitmaps fonts

I certainly repeat what has been said often, but not all know it:

If you really want quality, do not use Apple Bitmap fonts if your printer
has more than 300 dpi. The bitmap and TrueType versions of the fonts
do *not* correspond exactly. You only have two possibilities:

1.) use TrueType --> have only TT fonts in your system, discard all bitmaps

2.) use ATM      --> be sure to use the Adobe NFNT bitmap fonts.

As was pointed out in a recent digest, the lack of Apple to provide NFNT
bitmap fonts (with true italics etc.) is a scandalon, but this is not
the sole discrepancy: look at the digits 0..9 in the NewYork font, which
differ totally between the bitmap and TT fonts.  /////C.v.W.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:21:11 EST
From: Jay Goodman <goodman_jh@alcoa.com>
Subject: Tune-Ups (Q)

We have one System 6.0.7 holdout using the Laserwriter on an AppleTalk zone 
with ~ten System 7 users. If all of the 7 users are "tuned-up" what driver 
should the System 6.0.7 user be using ?  I gave him Laserwriter 7.1.1 but after 
installation he began receiving intermittent "coprocessor not installed" 
messages and is still receiving them with the older Laserwriter driver. 
TattleTale shows an FPU present.

Question 1: Did I hose his Mac (II fx with 8MB RAM) or are these coprocessor 
messages just a coincidence ?  (Of course, since "coincidences don't happen to 
him," I'm getting the blame. Typical Statistician behavior ;-) )

Question 2: Should all users on a local net be using identical drivers or 
should the Sys 6 users be using the vanilla Laserwiter driver ?

Thanks in advance,

Jay Goodman/Alcoa Technical Center/goodman_jh@alcoa.com
 

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:11:56 -0600
From: mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu
Subject: VersaTerm & VersaTerm-PRO (C)

A number of you have been complaining about the documentation of VersaTerm
& VersaTerm-PRO. (Who hasn't?)  I have complained about it too.

Now is your chance.  We are a beta site for VersaTerm & VersaTerm-PRO.  I
am currently looking at the proposed new docutmentation.    If you have any
suggestions for improving the documentation (short of burning) please send
them to me and I will incorporate it into my recommendations.  

This is your chance to make the best emulator on the mac have the best
documentation.  (No I am not being paid for this and no I will not pay
you.)  If you don't take the opportunity then don't complain when the next
edition comes out.

Send directly to:  MCGUIRE@UTKVX.UTK.EDU


Michael McGuire,  MCGUIRE@UTKVX.UTK.EDU

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 17:17:39 +0930
From: kwmin@convex.kaist.ac.kr (kyoung-wook min)

From: Young-Won Choe <kwmin@convex.kaist.ac.kr>
To: Friends 
Subject: AppMaker v.1.2 & Prototyper v.3.0

Hello, netters!

I want to purchase APDA's third party products :AppMaker v.1.2 or 
Prototyper v.3.0.
But before ordering, I think it's better to know which is better and 
whether those are compatible with System 7.x and Think C v.5.x.
Also I want to have your precious comments about them or other useful products
that can replace them.

Yes, you can think that I'm first to Mac programming.

Thanks in advance!

	Young-Won Choe <kwmin@convex.kaist.ac.kr>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:44:21 EDT
From: guy@odi.com

    Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:06:27 EDT
    From: Ilyas Kanaan <ST801732@brownvm.brown.edu>
    Subject: Clicking sound on PB170

    Does anybody know what the periodic clicking sound emitted by my Powerbook
    170 might be caused by? Is it a problem? I'd really appreciate an answer.
    Thanks.                                        -Ilyas Kanaan

It is probably the audio amplifier turning itself off.  After the PB
produces a sound, the amplifier stays on for a few seconds, then shuts
down to save power.

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