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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:10:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group
Distribution: usa
Keywords: Walter Carlos, Beethoven, Rossini, Elgar

In article <1992Jul21.130421.17670@doug.cae.wisc.edu> bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness) writes:
>Can anyone refresh my memory - it's been a while since
>I last watched Stanley Kubrick's classic, and I can't
>exactly remember what music was used in what scenes.
>All I remember is that the William Tell overture finale
>was used in the hyper-fast scene. If anyone remembers
>the soundtrack details, please reply. Thanks.
>

Can't help you, Matt, but in looking this movie up I came
across two intriguing references: Gene Kelly is listed as a
song composer for A CLOCKWORK ORANGE; and under Andy Warhol
it says ". . . and continued to crank out such influential
films as VINYL (1965), based upon Anthony Burgess's _A
Clockwork Orange_, which launched the tragic career and
cruel exploitation of socialite and superstar Edie
Sedgewick.

So what's Gene's song?

Anyone know anything about VINYL? I myself know nothing,
nothing I tell you, about any of Warhol's films.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Only the mediocre can always be at their best." -- Mencken
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From: hamel@primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Mia Sara film appearances
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:28:51 GMT
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center


MIA SARA
   1985  "Legend"  (Lily)
   1986  "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"  (Sloane Peterson)
   1987  "Queenie"  (Queenie Kelly)  [tv-m]
   1988  "Apprentice To Murder"  (Alice Spangler)
   1988  "Shadows in the Storm"  (Melanie)
   1988  "Any Man's Death"  (Gerlind)
   1989  "Judith Krantz's 'Till We Meet Again'"  (Delphine)  [tv-m]
   1990  "Daughter of Darkness"  (Cathy Ross)  [tv-m]

Can anyone add others?

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: American cinema (was Re: RASPUTIN)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:01:45 GMT

In article <2552@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>   You may argue that I will have seen more American films than any
>other nation's, and that is true. But I do see a lot of foreign films
>too (about 1 subtitled film per 2 English language film) and I must say
>the America "crud ratio" is higher by far than any other country. Note
>that that was ratio, and has nothing to do with volume.

Unless foreign language film releases in Britain are far different than
America, the foreign language films playing in Britain are generally
the cream of the crop, whereas any old American crap will play there.
(Several visits to Britain in the past few years have convinced me that
at least the latter half of this statement is true.)  The reason is that
an American film can be shown in Britain after merely getting it past the
censors, while films from most other countries require a moderately expensive
subtitling or dubbing job.  It would be rather surprising if the foreign 
language films you see were not somewhat better than the American ones, on 
average.  That's certainly the case, in the U.S., but I strongly suspect
that if I lived in, say, Sweden, spoke Swedish, and went to see every
Swedish film released there, I would have a somewhat less exalted view of
the Swedish film industry than I do living in the U.S.  Variety is a
useful tool, here, for, while they don't review every foreign film from
even the major markets, they do review far more of them than ever play
in the U.S. (or in Britain, I suspect).  Their reviews suggest a crap 
level comparable to American films.  (Though the crap, apparently, is 
different in kind, if not in stench.)

Put another way, if you watched 50 of the best non-English language
films of the past year, and 100 American films from last year chosen
more or less randomly, would you not expect the non-American films to
be better?

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:53:05 EDT
From: <PAK114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Deep Cover
 <r1dm2=c@lynx.unm.edu>

I have to agree, this was a great saturday nite flick.  One thing that I really
enjoyed about it was that it had a really great, rythmic, driving soundtrack
and didn't ruin it with any annoying rap until the credits rolled.


 CHAINSAW
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:23106 rec.games.trivia:2664 bit.listserv.cinema-l:5506
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 11:56:25 CDT
From: <U15289@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.games.trivia,bit.listserv.cinema-l
Subject: Film Trivia Quiz: The Actornet, Part 4

To try to encourage greater participation, this edition simplifies things a
bit.  I've dropped the complex sets of intersecting chains for this round,
in favor of a few straight, parallel lines--hopefully a little more straight-
forward than previous ones.  As always, the object remains to link the ends
of each chain with the correct sequence of films, each joined to the next by
shared cast members.


                            Y-_-_-_-_-_-I

                          F-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-R

                          O-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-X

A. _The Right Stuff_                        M. _White Palace_
B. _When Harry Met Sally_                   N. _Summer Lovers_
C. _Against All Odds_                       O. _Sands of Iwo Jima_
D. _Henry and June_                         P. _Only The Lonely_
E. _City Slickers_                          Q. _Class_
F. _The Paper Chase_                        R. _Thelma and Louise_
G. _Roxanne_                                S. _Wings of Eagles_
H. _D.O.A._ (remake)                        T. _Rich and Famous_
I. _The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen_    U. _St. Elmo's Fire_
J. _Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid_              V. _Batman_
K. _Sex, Lies and Videotape_                W. _Carnal Knowledge_
L. _The Last Picture Show_                  X. _Mr. Mom_
                             Y. _Attack!_

Needless to say, if you can't get them all, then send in as many as you can.
Whether you figure out all the links, or just the lion's share of them, email
your answers to me by Thursday, August 6.  The results will be posted after
that date.

                                               Mitch Pravatiner
                                               U15289@uicvm.uic.edu
From: caspar@sci.kun.nl (Caspar Terheggen)
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:59:41 GMT

Yes, I'm a big fan of her's.

I saw her in White Mischief (ok), Good Morning Babylon (good), The Player
(very good), A Man in Love (ok), and Presumed Innocent (ok).  Didn't see
Shattered yet.  But most of all: The Coca-Cola Kid.  Excellent movie, imho.

In <1992Jul26.174727.736@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Chuckorama) writes:

>-- So what is she? The British accent seems to come 
>quite well to her...anyone have any background??

I am fairly sure that she is Australian.

>PS I'm in love...again....and I thought Sharon Stone

she's pretty :-)

>                                                 ... and Jennifer Connelly 

YES! YES! YES!

>were gonna be my only ones....sigh....

We seem to have something in common... ;-)

Regards,
Caspar.
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From: wcr@unislc.uucp (William Rankin)
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:50:36 GMT

From article <1992Jul21.130421.17670@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, by bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness):
> Can anyone refresh my memory - it's been a while since
> I last watched Stanley Kubrick's classic, and I can't
> exactly remember what music was used in what scenes.
> All I remember is that the William Tell overture finale
> was used in the hyper-fast scene. If anyone remembers
> the soundtrack details, please reply. Thanks.
> 
> ------
> Matt. 

Going from memory (I have the original LP at home but haven't played it
lately)

Beethoven's 9th symphony 4th Movement. There are two versions, one is
orchestral/choral and the other is on the synthesizer.
I think some of the other movements of the 9th were used too.

William Tell Overture (Rossini) on the synthesizer.

Thieving Magpie (abridged) (Rossini) orchestral

Singing in the Rain (Gene Kelly)

and several new songs composed by Walter Karlos for the movie score.
Karlos and the MOOG synthesizer (aka Switched-on Bach 1 & 2) are
responsible for the bulk of the movie score and there are some
delightfully dark songs on the album. Sorry I can't place the
music with the scenes they were in.

This was my first X-rated movie.....(sigh) 

Bill
From: jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Europa
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:41:42 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>clamen@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:


>>This past weekend, on a visit to Toronto, I saw a European movie
>>(really a German-Danish-Swedish-French movie filmed in Poland) called
>>_EUROPA_.  It concerns a German-American who goes to work in Germany
>>in the Allied occupation period following WWII.

>>I was wondering what opinions the r.a.movies readership had concerning
>>this movie.

>I loved it (only seen it twice though), but some reviewer in r.a.m.r
>didn't. It's directed by Lars von Trier (Dane - the von is fake), who
>recieved a technical prize for it in Cannes. It has been released in
>the US as Zentropa (the name of the train company in the movie).

An interesting sideline to the Cannes tecnical prize is that von Trier
got really pissed off, because he did NOT get the "Best Film" award - 
he made quite a scandal. Lars von Trier considers himself the only true
genius in moviemaking today, and he does (i my opinion) make some
interesting visually stunning movies. The plots however is not my cup
of tea (as the british say).

Other movies by von Trier includes "The Element of Crime" and "Epidemic"
(those are the original titles)

/Jacob

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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: pee wee in 'buffy'
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:28:16 EST
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:

JH>AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:
>
>   I haven't seen "Batman" but I heard that "Pee Wee Herman" played
>   the penguin's father in a small role - is this true?  If not,
>   who was it?

JH>This is truth.

Also, if your interested, Pee-Wee (Paul Reubens) plays the 
'head' vampire in 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'...  watch the
commercials closely and listen for his name...

ooooh, 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer', I just got a cold chill... ;)
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From: hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong)
Subject: JU-DOU and RAISE THE RED LATERN
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:52:13 GMT

According to news report, China has approved the screening of JU-DOU and
RAISE THE RED LATERN.  Both films was nominated for the Oscars (in
seperate years).  JU-DOU caused some protest from China as it was then
never officially screened in mainland itself.  RAISE THE RED LATERN was
submitted as a Hong Kong film.  Both films are directed by Chinese
director Zhang Yimou.  JU-DOU is scheduled to start screening in China
this September.

Source: Lianhe Zaobao, Singapore

Heng Cheong
  hcleong@iti.gov.sg
From: elan.glassboro.edu!sysop@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Sleeper...
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:59:00 GMT
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <1992Jul22.150553.15766@siesoft.co.uk> jez@siesoft.co.uk (Jeremy 
Tracey) writes:


> Can anybody tell me the name of Woody Allens' character in 'The Sleeper'?

> ....infact does anybody have a list of his characters names from any
> of his other films....

> jez.

 Sleeper: Miles Monroe
 Love and Death: Boris Demetrivich (sp?)
 Annie Hall: Alvie Singer
 Bananas: Fielding Melish
 Manhattan: Isaac....
 Zelig:  Leonard Zelig
 Broadway Danny Rose
 
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From: libhes@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Heidi E. Schlenker)
Subject: Re: _Stand By Me_ Query SPOILER
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:07:36 GMT

In article <FXB!++WZ6@linac.fnal.gov> lewis@linac.fnal.gov (June Cummins Lewis) writes:
>
>
>SPOILER below:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I just saw Stand by Me for the first time on TV the other night.  It
>was obvious that the curse words were deleted (especially when the
>junkyard man called one of them a "foul-mouth kid" when no curse words
>had been heard).  It seemed like there was a change at the very end of
>the film, too.  When the grown up Gordy is typing on the computer, the
>last thing he writes is "Does anyone?" after he writes something about
>never again having friends like the ones he had when he was twelve.
>But it looked like those last words were added--the area around them
>was blacker than the rest of the computer screen and the letters
>didn't appear on the screen in the same smooth, measured way the
>previous ones had.  So does anyone know if something else was written
>in the original movie?

I don't know about any cuts from the movie but this is how both
the original movie and the story by Stephen King ended (with the line
does anyone?).  It's been awhile since I saw the film (I saw it in    
the theatre!) but there probably were some swear words deleted from
the t.v. version.
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: favorite movie musicals
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:14:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


 The Music Man. Definitely one of my favorite movies.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:21:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.070137.23438@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sql.sybase.com writes:
>I will now attempt an analogy to explain the difference between T1 and T2:It's
>as if you were a big fan of Slayer and bought their second album and it turned
>out to be the New Kids on the Block.  I'm not going to argue with fans of the 
>New Kids that their music is *bad*, it just happens to be not the kind I want 
>to hear (and similarly, the production values of the music is not the issue).
>And it's not that I'm expecting more of the same (a remake of the first album/
>movie), but obviously I want something with the qualities that appealed to me
>originally.
.
This is interesting, but not particularly illuminating. What elements of the 
first film did you feel were missing from the second one? I can tell the
difference between the New Kids and Slayer on my own, but I need you to tell 
me what disapointed you.
.
Michael


-- 
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 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Hunger (semi-spoiler alert)
Date: 22 Jul 1992 16:51:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Committee for Open Access Computing
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Just saw this movie last night and I really enjoyed it.  Does anyone know
if it is available on video anywhere?  I haven't had time to look into it
yet.

One thing I didn't understand about the movie was how Sara (Susan Sarandon)
was still alive at the end of the movie.  I haven't read the book (yet)
so perhaps I'll figure it out then.  And while I'm here, can someone tell
me what city that was in the final scene?  I'm guessing London (not having
seen the city yet) but have no idea.

What's your opinion of the movie? Liked it?  Hated it?

Jon
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:35:37 GMT

A couple of years ago STAR WARS was screened at Amherst.  During one
showing, the projector failed in the middle (at the end?) of the first
reel, just as Luke returned to his home only to find it a smouldering
ruin.  So there's Luke, staggering around and looking horrified, when
the tape flounders and fails and the lights come on.  "Sad movie," a
couple of people murmur, and a friend of mine in the back said
clearly, "And so, the Empire wins."  That one had the house in
stitches for several minutes.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Worst Movies (Beetle-Juice ?? I enjoyed it)
Keywords: Movies, Worst
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:52:49 GMT
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation

In article <712295665@marlin.cs.duke.edu> malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra) writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.032131.1590@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> swalker@uts.EDU.AU (S Walker) writes:
>>I thought that
>>  Hudson Hawk
>>& BeetleJuice
>>should go down in the annals of worst movies ever made
>
>I am surprised about "Beetle Juice". I thought it was a well-made
>horror-comedy and Michael Keaton is really good in this.
>I found it to be very funny, but then I have found horror-comedies
>to be very amusing !
>I would really like to know how others feel about this film.
>

I liked it as well, but you have to have the type of personality that liked 
the Addams Family movie as well (of course the Addams Family was a much better 
movie, having seen it several times and enjoyed it more each time).


-- 
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Systems Analyst 		|	and Costello world.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Re: "Sisters" song - where????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:53:24 GMT

Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Keywords: 

In article <l7bt5aINNs9k@smli.Eng.Sun.COM> germond@popov.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>>O.K. Movie quote-ahaulics, name this movie for me.  It contained
>>the song:
>>
>>sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters,

	So forth and so on....

>"White Christmas," starring Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye. The song was
>sung by a sister act who were alternately falling into and out of love
>with the heroes. I can't recall the name of either actress, I'm
>sorry to say.

Actually, the movie was called "Holiday Inn," but the song "White
Christmas" made it's debut during the film.  I can't remember the
names of the actresses either, but the one thin one always had
her neck covered up by a scarf or a turtleneck....  I've always
wondered about that!!

--Karen
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From: sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate)
Subject: Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:51:35 GMT

bl376@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel I. Greenberg) writes:


>Does anyone know what Indiana's guide in Egypt's name was?  The character
>not the actor's name.
>Thanks,
>-Brian

Sallah.


-- 
Sanjiv Sarwate		sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu	SANJIV@UIUCVMD
"The next day, the former Prime Minister accepts his first job since leaving
the Executive Mansion; cleaning out the inn's stables.  He notes that the two
occupations are not, essentially, dissimilar."
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Diary of a Hitman
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:25:05 GMT
Reply-To: ep[rice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I just watched Diary of a Hitman.  This is the worst movie I have seen
in recent memory.  Worse than Alien 3.  Worse than Lethal Weapon 3.
Worse than Highlander 2.  Worse than Split Second.  Worse than
Terminator 2 (yeah, yeah).  Everything about this film *sucked*.
Plot, script, soundtrack (not only music, but the diagetic sound
too!), acting (not that the actors had much to work with--actually the
cast was quite respectable which made it even worse), even the
*editing* was just incompetent.  Part of the reason (or the excuse)
may be that it was based on a play -- this makes a lot of sense: in
fact while I was watching it I was reminded of some awful earnest and
naive suburban high school production...

I rented this turkey because I vaguely remembered some article I had
read that mentioned John Woo's THE KILLER in connection with it.  And
in fact, there were some elements of Diary of a Hitman that suggested
more than a coincidental relationship to that infinitely superior
film.

I wouldn't normally post something like this (I mean, there are a lot
of movies I think are bad), but I had to make an exception.  I cannot
think of the last time I was this shocked and dumbfounded, by a movie.

Gawd.

Maybe it was made just so Walter Hill's remake of THE KILLER will look
brilliant by comparison??

-666 on the -4 to 4 scale.

Ed Price              (not Tim Worsely) |  "Hello!"
eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...) |  "Thank you!"
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Russia House (what happend ?)
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:56:41 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Can anyone explain to me what happend at the end of
Russia House ?  What is the shopping list that the Russian is
trying to get a hand on ?   Thanks in advance


Jack Teh