From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: How many NT SPECIFIC programs have been shown at COMDEX?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:19:32 GMT

brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.164327.14517@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>>>In article <dposey.724051776@well.sf.ca.us> dposey@well.sf.ca.us (David Posey) writes:
>>>>In <1992Dec10.205203.23885@fcom.cc.utah.edu> brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <1992Dec10.060534.5766@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is from PCWeek about COMDEX92 in Las Vegas:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Of more than 200 applications demonstrated at Microsoft's booth for
>>>>>> Windows 3.1, Windows for Workgroups, Windows for Pen Computing, and
>>>>>> Windows NT, fewer than 40 specifically tapped NT's 32-Bit
>>>>>> architecture."
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, and another article posted to this group claimed there were
>>>>>240 NT apps in the ISV booth.
>>>>
>>>>>The answer?  Simple.  In both cases the authors did not count for themselves.
>>>>>I did count (though I stopped when I hit one hundred, time was pressing).
>>>>>There were more than 40 and less than 240.
>>>>>The "40" number comes from counting the occurences of "NT" in the booth
>>>>>pamphlet, which as I said in my COMDEX report did not reflect all the NT
>>>>>stuff being shown.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark K.
>>>>
>>>>>Brian
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>C. Brian Sturgill                 Microsoft Windows Family of Operating Systems 
>>>>>University of Utah                 Peer-to-peer networking, Multimedia, E-mail
>>>>>Center for Software Science          enabled, HUGE base of applications, Object
>>>>>brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373   Linking and Embedding, (Oops! need more roo
>>>>
>>>>Brian, how did you determine that the products you counted 'specifically
>>>>tapped NT's 32-Bit architecture'? Did you actually ask the vendors, or
>>>>use some other indicator? I'm just curious if you 'counted' the same
>>>>thing they say they did...
>>>
>>>In fact I did ask.  Of the 100 I looked at specifically, only 5 or so
>>>did not have at least 32-bit prototypes that they were showing.
>>>Most had late alpha/early beta 32-bit software.
>>>About 40 of them I talked to at length ( 1 or 2 minutes) because I had
>>>specific interest in the products.
>>>I spent over 3 hours in the ISV portion of the Microsoft booth.
>>>And remember there were more than 100 present, I just ran out of time.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>-David
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>-- 
>>>C. Brian Sturgill                          NeXTStep 486 is for _YOU_!!!!
>>>University of Utah                    Microsoft needs competition, but I want
>>>Center for Software Science          to be one of the many running Windows NT!
>>>brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373    :-) :-) :-)  NT SDK: $69; (800) 227-4679
>>
>>
>>Since you already posted _SEVERAL_ misinforming messages on this network, your
>>credibility has lowered almost to 0. It's hard to earn a good reputation but
>>it is very easy to loose one.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Mark K.
>
>Apparently you figured I wouldn't see this since I was unsubscribing, but
>I caught you anyway!
>
>Show us those "_SEVERAL_ misinforming messages", there aren't any. I'm
>sorry if you believe that I count count, but I did count, and I was there,
>and we've even had independent confirmation of that count.
>
>As to my "reputation", well at least many people out there believe, it's
>mainly the raving OS/2 fans that don't, and as I often (but not always) post
>bad news for OS/2, I guess that is understandable.
>
>Anyway, if you have further insults, please have the decency to e-mail them
>to me, as I'm not watching this group anymore.
>
>Brian
>-- 
>C. Brian Sturgill                          NeXTStep 486 is for _YOU_!!!!
>University of Utah                    Microsoft needs competition, but I want
>Center for Software Science          to be one of the many running Windows NT!
>brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373    :-) :-) :-)  NT SDK: $69; (800) 227-4679


Mr. Sturgill,
once again, this is your story and you stick to it. Furthermore, you have
send me already several message using profanities in them. I will not
send you anything as I believe there is no reason for me to fall as low
as you already did.

Best Regards,
Mark K.