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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: STAR TREK: After Dark screen saver
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:10:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Distribution: usa
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <79120@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gw18@prism.gatech.EDU (Greg Williams) writes:
> Another problem I noticed is that you can't run Space and Planet Atlas if
> your display is more than 256 colors.  I'm currently running with 32,768, so
> I can't use either of those two modules.  Unfortunately, some of the desktop
> colors and my wallpaper look terrible in 256 mode, so I just live without
> those modules.

  The same is true of the original After Dark 2.0. The answer I received from
Berkeley about this was "we don't know how to fix our code to work properly
and we couldn't be bothered anyway". It seems they consider > 256 colors to
be a minority they don't want to deal with. Well, all our our new systems are
being installed with 1024x768 24-bit color because it's only about $250 more
than the super VGA boards we were using. I've heard the same thing from other
sites. Too bad Berkeley isn't interested in this rapidly expanding market seg-
ment. This is especially odd as the 24-bit folks have proven that they will
spend extra for a higher-quality product.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: rhughes@ucsd.edu (Richard J. Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Date: 9 Jan 1993 03:56:15 GMT
Organization: ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-slip26.ucsd.edu

In article <2B4DFFA5.13503@news.service.uci.edu> kaseko@atlas.its.uci.edu (Mohamed Kaseko) writes:

>I am looking for a good PC-based sotware that can enable me
>to read MAC formated diskettes on my PC. I would like to be 
>able to switch word and excel files between my PC at home 
>and the MAC in the office.

Look for mac-ette.zip on the Simtel mirrors.  It will do what you want.

Richard

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: "Invalid measurement units" starting a Template?
From: mdlcpgs@lhn.gns.cri.nz
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 23:29:26 GMT  
Organization: Institute of Gelogical & Nuclear Sciences, New Zealand.

I have just got W4W 2.0 and have immediately run into problems with
the templates. I tried the LETPRSON (or something, personal letter)
and when I had completed entering my name etc in the initialising
macro, the thing immediately complained about "invalid measurement
units used". Now I didnt enter ANY measurement units to look to
me like a bug in the initialisation macro. Note: I have setup
Windows for Metric units. Is this a known bug? Better still a known
fix so I dont have to hack around the macros?
	Thanks, Phil
From: rpage@mizar.usc.edu (RICHARD PAGE)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WFW Print odd and even pages separately?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 10:25:56 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu
Keywords: WinWord Odd Even Printing

In article <1993Jan7.210159.7255@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Andreas.Lemke@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Andreas Lemke) writes:
>The subject says it. Is there a way, to print the odd and even
>pages of a WordForWindows document separately or how else could
>I get the corresponding odd and even page on both sides of my
>paper?

Here is a macro I put together to display a dialog box and prompt
for which pages to print and whether the document should be repag-
inated or saved first. It is based on a sample macro from James
Rudnicki (USENET: comp.windows.ms) from December. To get this to work copy
the text into an empty macro edit page.

--RP

*****CUT HERE********
Sub MAIN
  Begin Dialog UserDialog 300, 154, "Odd/Even Printing"
    Text 48, 8, 234, 48, "Print odd or even numbered pages. The document may
be repaginated and saved before printing."
    GroupBox 11, 62, 143, 59, "Select Pages"
    OptionGroup  .OddEven
        OptionButton 21, 78, 112, 16, "Odd Pages"
        OptionButton 21, 95, 120, 16, "Even Pages"
    CheckBox 173, 79, 116, 16, "Repaginate", .RePage
    CheckBox 173, 96, 100, 16, "Save File", .SaveFile
    OKButton 10, 127, 88, 21
    CancelButton 110, 127, 88, 21
  End Dialog

  Dim dlg As DocumentStatistics
  GetCurValues dlg
  NUM = Val(dlg.Pages)            'Get number of pages

  Dim NewDlg As UserDialog        'Declare dialog array
  Choice = Dialog(NewDlg)

  Select Case Choice
    Case - 1                      'OK Button
      If NewDlg.RePage = 1 Then
        ToolsRepaginateNow        'Make sure pagination is correct
      End If
      If NewDlg.SaveFile = 1 Then
        FileSave                  'Save before printing
      End If
      If NewDlg.OddEven = 0 Then
        For cnt = 1 To NUM Step 2
          FilePrint .Range = 3, .From = Str$(cnt), .To = Str$(cnt)
        Next
      Else
        For cnt = 2 To NUM Step 2
          FilePrint .Range = 3, .From = Str$(cnt), .To = Str$(cnt)
        Next
      End If
    Case Else
  End Select

End Sub
*******CUT HERE*******

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de (Helmut Oertel)
Subject: Re: ELM / Unix Mail Reader?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:23:00 GMT

If you get anything by mail please post it (extremly interested as well).

oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de
From: ronerwin@carson.u.washington.edu (Ron Erwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: printer driver needed
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:21:48 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
Summary: Printing problem on Deskjet 500
Keywords: Deskjet 500

   Your printer problem may not be in the printer driver.  I had a
printing problem on my deskjet 500 and it turned out to be a problem with
the video driver.  Call HP and ask them about your problem,  they told me
my problem and after I loaded another video driver (crystal-fonts) my
printer works great!

To load another video driver in Windows 3.1, run Setup and select the
Video system, look through the list of drivers and try another driver.


  There is a definite connection between the video system and the printer,
 I would like a technician to explain it to us all.  My guess is that the
printer driver has the video driver create the print image in the video
memory and then the printer driver sends that to the printer.

  I hope this helps you, and I hope we can educate a few people who wish
to blame their printer driver and Microsoft for all their problems.  Who
creates all those printer drivers that MS releases with 3.1?  Do you think
MS does?  I expect printer companies send those drivers to Microsoft for
release with MS software.

Hewlett-Packard was very helpful to me and though I had to pay for the
call,  I didn't have to wait to get through to them.

Ron Erwin    ronerwin@u.washington.edu
From: to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Xtalk 2.0 for Windows Problems
Date: 10 Jan 93 07:16:59 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have a friend that is having problems with Crosstalk.  Because he doesn't
have Internet or USENET access I am posting this for him.
He just bought a copy of Crosstalk for Windows 2.0 and has noticed some
problems with the program.  He is wondering if there are others experiencing
the same problems.

1.      He cannot consistently connect to certain hosts.  Sometimes Xtalk will
senses a carrier detect and other times it doesn't and tries to redial.

2.      He is unable to set to the terminal so that he can directly send modem
commands.  One of the places he dials into has dialback security.  He knows
that Xtalk has a auto-answer script but he does not want that type of feature
enabled.  He wants to be able to type ATA to the terminal so that Xtalk will
answer the phone when he wants to tell it too.

3.      In VT320 emulation he cannot get the break key to work.  Also when
trying to define new keys he cannot seem to create new key definitions.
What the manual says is supposed to work does not work at all.

4.      He is having difficulty with the fonts with the application.  For
example the Keyboard Editor he cannot see the whole label of the key.  The
font is too big.  He wants to know if there is a way to adjust the font.
Another instance when he uses Session Settings all of the fonts are messed up.
(He can't see all of the words or options because they are hidden underneath
the icon button list.  Plus there are some strange boxes outlined in the
dialog box (Sessions Settings) that he has no idea what they are for.
It looks like something that happens when you first build an application
and you made a mistake in how you designed the dialog box.  He thinks that it
is because he has set windows in SVGA mode.

Any comments or suggestions is more than welcome.

Judy To


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From: tyvng@cs.sfu.ca (Vincent Ng)
Subject: Mass11  -> Words in Windows
Keywords: Vax Mass11, W4W
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:11:12 GMT

I have many, many MASS11 documents in the Vax/VMS system and is checking
out for software and methods to convert them to be used by W4W. I would
like to maintain the formatting as much as possible. Has anyone done this
before ? Any pointers?

-thanks
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 BC Cancer Agency
From: Sparrow+@CMU.EDU (Kin Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Date: 10 Jan 93 10:45:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfI8g3O00WB6I4SFF6
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have tried using macsee.zip (or macsee20.zip) in Win 3.1. Although the
author claims that the program is capable of reading 800K and 1.44 Mb
disks, the 800K part failed. It is able to read my High-Dens Mac disks,
but failed to read in my Mac text files (it even hangs in the middle of
reading the folders).

I managed to get a copy of mac-ette.zip in 134.95.80.1, by using Archie
Archive Search. It WORKS but only on 1.44 Mb disks. The author claims
that 800K disks (and anything lower) are almost impossible to read
without extra hardware. This is a DOS version, but I'm happy with it,
for now. Does anyone out there in networld know where I could get a
better Mac reader, eg one that is Win 3.1 based? I just want to read
text files and transfer binary files.

Thanks


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Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 10:01:01 MST
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: WordPerfect and Grammatik
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

Just saw that WordPerfect Corp announced yesterday that it has
aquired controlling ownership of RSI which is the maker of
programs including Grammatik 5.  This seems to be a big move
for them in increasing their offering in the writing tools 
area.

Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: WKWINKEL@ibm.rz.uni-passau.de
Subject: how to do:x is element of ... in WordfW.?
Organization: University of Passau - Germany
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:05:27 GMT

Dear Netters,
does anybody know how to get a sign like
x is an element of the group of real numbers
  (please excuse my weak mathematical english)
where the "group" of real numbers would be an R with a double
stroke on the left hand side, something looking like IR.
The equation editor offers the "element" sign, even the vertically
mirrored E (there is an x ...) and the A turned upside down (for all x..)
but no characaters for the different group of numbers. There is a seperate
vertical stroke available in the eq.editor, but this wouldn't work with
complex numbers (C).
Any help is wellcome
Olaf Winkelhake
University of Passau, Germany
Dept. of Economics
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: lindor@eng.umd.edu (Lindor Eric Henrickson)
Subject: Re: (Summary)  Word/W4W/WP:  Which is best?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 07:49:28 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

>booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian) writes:
>
>Word for Windows? The people in my department are not technical
>people, so I am concerned that learning a new interface maybe
>too much. Has anyone made this switch?

Before you jump on the Word bandwagon, I thought I'd throw in my
two cents.  Yes, WP has had (is having) a few growing pains
migrating to the Windows environment, but in my opinion WP is
definitely the most powerful and **flexible** of the three
mentioned wordprocessors.  Thus far, I've found that WP5.2 for Win
seems to be working pretty well (just my opinion though).

An example of WP's flexibility/power: I do a lot of technical
writing, so I need to do lots of equations and  use lots of special
characters.  To my knowledge, AmiPro doesn't even have an equation
editor, and in Word you are more or less forced to pick all equation
symbols off a palette.  Now, picking symbols/special characters off 
a "palette" may seem like
the easiest way to do things at first glance, but I find that
when you need to do many equations/special characters its generally 
a pain in the butt!  In  WP, you have the choice of choosing
symbols/characters from a palette, OR typing in symbols using an
equation writing language, OR mapping special characters,etc. to the
keyboard.  Thus, for frequently used characters, you type them in
using the equation language, or by mapping them to the keyboard
...much faster than picking things off
a palette (for me at least), and for less frequently used characters,
you pick them off the palette.

Anyway, this is just one example where I've found that WP is
much better than Word.  As I said earlier, just my two-cents...

LH
lindor@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: shmuel@mapsut.einstein.com ()
Subject: Word 4 Windows 2.0: how about UPC codes?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:12:31 GMT
Organization: Shmuel Einstein & Associates, Inc.

Is there any way of printing UPC codes from word for windows 2?
I wish to print the postal zip codes on my mailing labels using the
US post offices encoding.

Thanks in advance.


-- 
Shmuel Einstein, shmuel@einstein.com
Shmuel Einstein & Associates, Inc.
9100 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 235 E
Beverly Hills, CA  90212
310/273-8971 FAX 310/273-8872
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! : )
From: sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:21:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <1i9kd9INNfr8@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <C07392.CyE@csulb.edu> sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)  
>writes:
>> 1.  As I understand it, MS wants the vendors to pay based upon  
>total
>> units sold, not the number of units sold with DOS or Windows on it.
>> That sounds to me more like paying for the right to sell it than it
>> does purchasing and reselling the product. That constitutes a very
>> fine line between commerce and extortion.
>> 
>
>From what I understand of the situation, what Microsoft is
>saying is: "You can pay us for each copy sold at $XX per copy.
>However, if you'd rather, you can save yourself the paperwork
>and the worry about tracking which machines have DOS/Windows
>and which don't by simply paying us $YY (where YY is less
>than XX) per machine you sell."  The vendors then look at
>it. If they are putting Windows on 90% of the machines they
>sell, they can save significant money (and some paper work) 
>by simply putting Windows on every machine (since
>machines_sold times YY is less that .9XX times machines_sold).

  But if there is a significant price difference for the vendor
without a corresponding difference for MS, then the policy and
pricing clearly has some other intent than economies of scale
for MS. It is such intentions that can run afoul of anti-trust
law.

>
>> 2.  MS's scenario virtually prevents the machine seller from  
>bundling
>> some other OS without taking a financial hit on the transaction. In
>> effect, it is paying the vendor to not use the competitors product
>> (because of the higher volumes and discounts associated with the
>> agreement). That is a deliberate restraint of trade, not honest  
>competition.
>> 
>
>Why?  See above.  If the overall cost to the vendor is less to
>pay by machines sold than by machine, this isn't true at all.
>

  Putting a fancy name and rationale to an anti-competitive policy
doesn't make it non-anti-competitive. It's these kind of self-
justifications and evasions that we rail at the Japanese trade
practices for.


-- 
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Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:3768 comp.os.os2.advocacy:12030
From: petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly)
Subject: Re: The sin of MicroSoft
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:14:19 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1993Jan8.153214.887@aspentec.com> tto@aspentec.com wrote:

>     The sin of IBM is that they has lead the public into adopting too
>     narrow a view of what a computer should and can be.
> 
> Similarly, I think the same sin is now committed by MicroSoft.  Specifically,
> they are leading the public into thinking that a GUI is what an operating
> system is all about; and that GUI is more important than a large (> 1M) 
> addressing space, more important virtual memory, more important than protection
> against errant user programs, more important than pre-emptive multi-tasking,
> etc.  They are also in effect saying that you should not buy software from
> elsewhere because it is not guaranteed to work in the next release of the
> operating system.  (Need I say why this is bad?)


The sin of the computer science community is that have too
narrow a view of what a computer should and can be.

Most people in the core of computer science tend to think things like
"address space" or "processing speed" are all computers are.  They study
algorithms and logic in order to build more powerful machines designed
to help in the study of algorithms and logic.  A lot of them are stuck on
ideas on how to make a computer do more than one thing at a time, but have
absolutely no idea what those things are.  It wasn't until recently that
the idea that "computers and people should work together" really came into
being.  This lead to the development of user interface technology by the
corporate sector, based on the works of Alan Kay and others at Xeros PARC
(These researches were tended to be on the fringe of academia, far from the
core research in user confusion occurring in UNIX development).

As soon as general users started to get ahold of GUI technology, they 
started to develop ideas as to what computers should be used for.  The fact
that Users and commercial software houses are starting to develop technologies
on their own is threatening the priesthood of academic computer science, and
their deciples, causing them to threaten and belittle this new frontier of
computer development.

This "History" brought to you by the movement to fight insane statements
on the net with even more bizarre claims, found only on the advocacy groups.

> 
> History has a tendency to repeat itself.  I sometimes wondered what the
> world of computing world would be like had Multics been developed for the 360.
> Twenty years from now people would be wondering what it would be like if
> there had been a decent operating system for the PC.
And I wonder sometimes what would have happened if the Byzantine empire 
hadn't squelched certain peoples in Europe during their reign.  It's been
postulated that society would have been 100 to 500 years in advanced of
what it was now. 

petesk@microsoft.com
My Opinions...
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: FCC will proclaim Microsoft is run by Communists! : )
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:29:37 -0700
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu
Distribution: na

In article <1iqff8INNd45@shelley.u.washington.edu>  writes:
>chriswa@microsoft.com (Chris Waldron) writes:
>>prior to coming to Microsoft.  Another point that I believe weakens the  
FTC
>>case is Apple's tight control over their hardware and system software is
>>apparently unaddressed.
>
>Huh?  Apple is irrelevant to any FTC case against Microsoft.  If both Apple
>and Microsoft are doing things that call for an FTC investigation, there is
>no reason that the investigations would have to take place at the same  
time.


We must also remember that Apple is not publishing applications:  okay,  
there's Claris, but Apple's organizational connections to Claris are  
questionable, and Claris certainly isn't producing the #1 spreadsheet, word  
processor, presentation package, etc., for the Mac platform.  The FTC  
suggests Microsoft's DOS and Windows monopoly has unfairly helped its  
applications sales.

The easiest way to tell unfair competition:  companies that must compete  
with their sole suppliers.


--

Sean Luke
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sean@digaudio.byu.edu  
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome