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From: wm@wat2223.ucr.edu (Will Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Kordell Stewart, CU QB
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:13:16 GMT
Reply-To: wm@wat2223.ucr.edu
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov22.223119.7481@sparky.imd.sterling.com>  
marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
> I read today that Kordell Stewart set a number of passing records for the
> University of Colorado.  Yet, given his current status, sophomore I believe,  
> he would have been recruited as an option Quarterback.  CU fans, what is 
> Stewart's background?   

Stewart was one of the run/pass QB's out of HS, much like Nebraska's starter  
this year (the freshman).  CU recruited him b/c they were going to emphasize a  
50-50 run pass offense (under Darian Hagan), but this was before the switch to  
the passing game.  People forget that Mac has been talking about improving the  
passing game ever since we lost to OU on ESPN in 1988, but especially after the  
humiliating loss to BYU in the Freedom Bowl (1988).  If I am not mistaken,  
Stewart was Louisiana's HS Player of the Year.

> Also, the two wide receivers who went over 1,000 yards in receptions?  What
> is the status on them?

They are Charles S. Johnson, a jr. out of San Bernardino, CA and Michael  
Westbrook, a soph out of Detroit.  Johnson was a speed guy out of HS who had no  
hands until this year.  I remember watching him a few springs ago and he just  
dropped everything.  Big change to this year.  Also, his average is  
astonishing--definitely a big play guy for a pro offense like Houston's.   
Westbrook is 6'4" (or at least listed as such) and can motor.  He catches alot  
of short stuff, but can make them turn long a la John Taylor of the 49ers.  The  
pro scouts like him a lot as well.

If CU can keep these players in Boulder, the Buffs are in great shape.  Both  
receivers would benefit from another year of experience, and Stewart is in now  
way ready for the NFL.  He has a great sense of pressure in the pocket, is big  
and strong.  However, he has yet to learn to look off the strong safety, tends  
to focus on 1 receiver (usually Westbrook) and telegraph his passes, and he  
forces the ball into situations he really should not.  It hasn't burned CU much  
this year b/c Westbrook and Johnson are so superior to most people who are  
covering them.  But that would be very different against other opponents (i.e., 
not many DBs that CU has played are bound for the NFL).  IF Stewart can learn  
to look off the safety AND read defenses such that he can know which receiver  
to go to w/o looking at him, then he will become one of the best collegiate  
QBs.  As for now, he is relying on his athletic ability and that of us WRs.

- Will
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 14:01:11 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: travesty

I thought someone (I can't remember) posted that the Holiday Bowl has committed
this year to inviting the 3rd-place Big-10 team.  Was this person just
dreaming?
-- 
Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
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From: imes@bass.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes)
Subject: Re: Who's #3 in Big 10
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:13:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.114547.60920@cc.usu.edu> sl45z@cc.usu.edu writes:
>	Just a quick question.  Who is vying for third place in the Big 10

Michigan State University (will have 6-5 overall record with a Saturday win)

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,tamu.general
From: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Subject: Lee Corso at A&M TODAY (11/18/92)
Reply-To: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:26:08 GMT

Howdy!  From The Dallas Morning News...

Lee Corso will be in College Station recording a feature for ESPN's
College Gameday.  RC is quoted as saying that "he has a lot of guts
coming here."

Beat the Class of '90 hell outta TCU!

PEdro '90


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From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Congratulations to the Bruins 
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:45:05 GMT

I just found out that USC lost to UCLA 38-37 in a very
entertaining game. 

As I wrote earlier, you just don't know what is going to happen
in this series. Both teams played as if the Rose Bowl was
at stake.

Congratulations to both teams. This is what makes this rivalry
great!

And, 'SC could have gone for a tie, but did *NOT*. Give them
credit, they're neither Michigan nor ND...

How about them Cougars. Regardless, I'll be pulling for the Huskies
in the Rose Bowl.

Pac 10, the *best* conference in the country, bar none!

This has been quite a turnaround for 'SC from last year. Only one
piece of the puzzle is left. 

Go Trojans! Destroy Neuter Dame!

Serdar

PS: This USC-UCLA result looks very similar to the one 3 years
back when USC won a close one...

-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
Serdar Boztas \\ serdar@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au \\ +(61)3-565-5722 
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: ND and southern teams (was: FSU 1993 Schedule)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:42:08 GMT

In article <BxxE2A.Js0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu  
(William P. Jones) writes:

> This seems to be pretty well spread out geographically. The series with FSU 
> should be a good one because of the good relations between the head coaches. 
> Wasn't Skip Holtz even a graduate assistant at FSU/

That's interesting.  On the basketball side of things, it seems
that coaches who are friends rarely schedule games (unless they
are in the same conference, of course!).

--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Corso serves his time...
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:03:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.164413.12584@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn
Mace) writes:
>
>Lee Corso gets to come to Aggieland to do a feature on the Aggies...
>
>Maybe it is worth a trip down there to kneecap him...  :-)
>
>cmuck
>
Hey! Maybe he will stick around for the weekend to play bonfire with us! I'll
volunteer to give him a tour of the 4th stack! And I'll throw in a shove for
good measure. Or maybe let him carry a log in his fat mouth! 


*****************************************************************
John R. Cobarruvias, Texas A&M Class of '78, 
NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Tx.
(713)483-9357

"And to think..................I hesitated" (Hellraiser II)
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:44:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.185546.719@bnr.ca> ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.005200.16548@colorado.edu>,
>manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>|>They squeaked past a not-so-hot
>|>stanford by 3 points. 
>|>Then recently, they defeated a Houston team by 4 pts which
>|>was beaten 63-3 by Michigan! Yes, A&M is sure playing like
>|>a champion.
>|>
>
>Njan, schmjan...

Yo sh*thead,

>Firts of all, we beat Cougar high by 8 pts.  However, the only thing
^^^^^^^

duh?

>And, just to point out how ridicilous the voters of the AP poll are, two
>weeks ago Nebraska
>beat the shit out of the buffs, yet the buffs are ranked a couple of
>spots higher than
>Nebraska.  I don't care if Nebraska lost to the Cyclones, on a head to
>head contest, the
>'huskers proved to have been far superior than the buffs, thus should be
>ranked higher than
>them.  So, what it comes down to is that the current system sucks. 
>However, we have yet to
>run out of time in a game, and until we do, I say we deserve the
>ranking.  When we do get
>outscored, you all can gloat in the fact that we lost.  But I will be
>just as proud to be an
>Aggie as I am today.  We haven't had the prettiest of victories, but
>what these are to some
>people squeaks to others are good comebacks (fsu, bama, miami, etc).

yeah, you have these victories because YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED ANYONE GOOD!!!
Beat someone good, then we'll talk.

What do these aggie asses think anyway? Beat s few third rate teams and
you should win MNC? Get real!

And pray with all your might that you won't have to play FSU this year in
cotton Bowl... It won't be as close as last year.

>Beat the Class of '90 hell outta TCU!
>
>PEdro '90

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Michigan Wolverines:  Princes of the Ties
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:54:10 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

What is this?  Another tie?  May be I should expect Michigan ties Washington,
if not losing!

-lou


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: AGGIES SUCK!!!
Keywords: ghoti hunting
Organization: Florida State University Marine Biology Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:40:48 GMT

I recently found this definition of the word Aggie in Webster's dictionary:

Aggie - n. 1. an asshole whose size is so extraordinary that the Eiffel tower
       fits inside with only moderate lubrication. 2. a large conglomeration
       of hicks into what has been called a "school". adj. 3 the USUALLY 
       undesirable condition of a part of the body, especially genitalia.
       usage: Your penis is Aggie.

Kevin
From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Va Tech loses to UVa (again)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:19:43 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunkj.larc.nasa.gov
Keywords: damn!


Well, the subject could have read:

"Maurice DeShazo and Terry Kirby Defeat Va Tech"

But I can't come down entirely on DeShazo because
he did manage some big plays.  Unfortunately 2 or 
3 of his TD passes were to guys wearing orange and blue.

It was a wet miserable day in Blacksburg (whats new?).
UVa scored first, then Va Tech climbed on top for a
moment, and after a couple of INT returns, UVa never
trailed again.

Even though the outcome was not as I had hoped, it
was still an exciting game.  The home crowd was never
much of a factor, as if they knew we were going to
lose.  

Terry Kirby had a big day rushing.  Why couldn't
he have missed this game :-/

The last touchdown of the game was definitely the 
best.  There was very little time left, and a very
long bomb is caught putting us inside the ten.

There is only about 10 seconds left, so they line
up and what looked more like a hail mary pass was
thrown (even though it covered ~10 yards) was thrown
up 3-4 guys went up for it and the ball pops out
and a Va Tech receiver makes a spectacular diving
catch for a TD that really surprised everyone.

Oh well.  I hate having lost, but for some reason,
this loss doesn't sting as much as the last.  I guess
there is a difference between 3 points and 38.

BTW, the number "38" has come up in the last 3 
Va Tech - UVa meetings.  hmm...

Congrats to the UVa team.  They did everything they
needed to win.

Michael Nelson
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:19:38 -0500 
From: Darrell Louie <dl5p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cal sucks

Ouch!!!!

Well, you must be a fortune teller,  except for the late gimme TD in the
fourth, Cal went down big time 34-9.  Actually, the score might be
worse, but I left right after the 2-pt conversion try.  Too bad the game
didn't end after the 1st quarter, we would have only lost 6-3.  The only
redeeming value?  There was a Cal/Stanford alumni get together in
Pittsburgh and I was able to meet some fellow alumni.  It was also nice
that I didn't have to suffer in solitude as Cal went down to defeat.

Yes, I also didn't make any bets.  Thank God.  Last year I egged on a
Stanford grad for a bet even though he expected Stanford to lose.  Of
course we know what happened.

Anyway, do we forsee better things in the future?  Probably not, Russell
White leaves for the NFL next year and Bill Walsh will still be down on
the Farm.  Oh, well, I still have memories of "The Play" and the win in
1986 which was Joe Kapp's finale.

However, always remember the Bear will never die:
(but he may roll over and play dead sometimes.)

Darrell Louie 86'.
From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Boiler Injury Update (WAS: Re: Big Ten Review (11-14-92))
Keywords: Big Ten
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:14:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.Bxx6G0.9Iu
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <BxvD2u.78K@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>>
>>Freshman RB Mike Alstot (who rushed for 101 yards against Michigan's
>>"#1 defense") broke his ankle at MSU on a tough hit and a slide on
>>the snow (damn, I HATE astroturf).  Colletto said "it's a clean
>>break and should heal nicely."  Obviously, he's out for Saturday.
>>Jeff Hill RB (ankle) and Arlee Conners RB (sholder) are both questionable.
>>Jermane Ross WR might also be out.
>
>	What about this Luis Smickle guy?  He came out of nowhere to
>	have a great game against IU last year, and then has barely
>	played this year...

   Smickle has been in and out all year, mostly, he comes in on 
   certain formations and has done well, but not outstanding at WR.
   I think he's in at WR on alot of draw plays and FB leads too.
   Can't tell you any more.

   Colletto said Tuesday:
   Jermaine Ross WR will be "touch-and-go all the way through 
                    Saturday with a sprained ankle".
   Chad Buckland SS, has sholder surgery yesterday and should be fine 
                    this spring
   Of course, Alstott will be out with a broken ankle, as will 
   Ryan Grigson, who is recovering well after pancrenitis and 
                     kidney failure
    
   "Other than Ross," Colletto said, "I don't think anyone is
   going to be out of the game."  We assume he means anyone else 
   besides Alstott, Buckland, and Grigson.

   With Jeff Hill and Arlee Conners back in the game (hey, let's
   hope they BOTH get 100 yards), I'm upping my prediction to
   PURDUE by 7  (assuming O'Leary practices outdoors....)

-- 
   <===========================><===============================>
   || Christopher Landers      ||  Stamp Out Silly Signatures! ||
   <============== landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ================>
From: hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 4 YARDS AWAY FROM SYRACUSE UPSET.. MIAMI, 16-10..
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:47:17 GMT
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.

>
>  Miami did play TCU this year, at Fort Worth.  Miami won 45-10. 

I believe Miami played TCU at Miami.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lowery@bnr.ca (Gary Lowery)
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:06:30 GMT

In article <1ep67cINN9db@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci) writes:
B.S. deleted

Hey OSU fans,  hype it up all you want, you still haven't beaten Michigan
in 5 tries.  That's right 0-4-1.  When was your last Rose bowl appearance?
You guys choke every year.  Next year it is in Ann Arbor.  We will win that
one also.  Can your coach.  He's out of there.  OSU still sucks! Get back
down to earth.  A tie still means MICHIGAN is unbeaten in its last 5 games
against OSU.  The streak goes on......

GO BLUE

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: TBDBITL members?  (Re: Hail to Those Motherf***ers...)
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:51:59 GMT

atchison@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.155522.4171@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
>>  Mike Doel asks:
>>>Any former TBDBITL members wish to post the alternate lyrics to Hail to the
>>>Victors or LeRegiment(sp)?

Hey, I'M an alumni TBDBITL member!!  Who else is that's on the NET?

allen  TBDBITL '79-'82
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SEC officiating: where to complain !!!
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:17:12 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <dkm2.722145722@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
> 
> Are you fed up with officiating in the SEC?  Let's remember why you should be:
.
. (anti-SEC officials stuff deleted)
.
> * woof gods: I am not trying to find reason we lost to Alabama, simply I am
> sick of officials blowing calls, especially in big games.  No team is immune
> to these poor calls and the officals must be repremanded!

Whew!  For a minute there David I thought you were about to doom Miss St to
a pre-Jackie season ending.  Luckily, you probably fixed things with your
"non-woof disclaimer".
 
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Date: 22 Nov 1992 12:41:15 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu
In-reply-to: demon@desire.wright.edu's message of 22 Nov 92 02:27:04 EST

}} In article <1992Nov22.022704.5756@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
}} 
}} 	   Frankly, we had nothing to lose by going for it.  Cooper should have. 
}} The team wanted to.  The seniors would have killed to get two.  Apparently
}} Cooper was thinking about his job instead.

Frankly, I have to disagree.  As Cooper pointed out in his post-game
interview, there were 4 minutes left in the game, the defense was
stopping Michigan cold, and the offense was rolling.  I certainly
would've expected to get within FG range again.

I suppose, by that logic, you could say that he could afford to go for
two.  If he missed, he could still expect the team to move down for
the FG.  I still can't fault him for his choice.

I'm a little more upset at the punt coverage in the last minute.  The
only chance they had was for a muffed punt.  The Michigan receiver
obliged (Alexander?), but two or three Buckeyes were busy converging
on him, and were not ready to recover the muff.  Tovar almost managed,
but didn't quite.  Oh, so close...

Still, overall, a sweet day.  OSU proved they're at least as good as
Michigan, and Purdue beat IU.  Ahhhhh...

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
             Hear, hear! Who's here who knows whose booze this is?

             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Open question to Notre Dame fans
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:49:08 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <8f3pibG00iUy40hXxC@andrew.cmu.edu>
wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Karamo Motley) writes:
>team.  I always used to look forward to Thanksgiving back in high school
>when a few friends and myself would sit down and watch the Miami-ND
>match-ups.  It would be nice to have that back.  Also, I think that

This is a new one to me.  I don't recall ND ever playing on Thanksgiving
nor do I think of Miami as a traditional rival for ND (like say,
USC or Michigan).  Might you be thinking of some other matchup?
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From: jimarcey@eos.ncsu.edu (JOEL IAN MARCEY)
Subject: Re: ACC Preview
Originator: jimarcey@c00569-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jimarcey@eos.ncsu.edu (JOEL IAN MARCEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:34:53 GMT


Did you know that N.C. State has a chance to make the ORANGE BOWL.......

if you want to know how reply back
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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Subject: HISTORY LESSON (Was: Re: Notre Dame in the South)
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:49:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.204026.13005@dbsun.uucp> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>
>> > I also have been informed ... that there is still a great deal of
>> > ill feeling revolving around a certain Orange Bowl victory in 1974
>> > and a national championship in 1977.  ...
>
>I don't think it has anything to do with the 74 OB or 77 NC.  I think
>it has more to do with a certain war that took place around 1851.  I
                                                             ^^^^
>anxiously await the rematch. :-)
>
>-- 
>*realName: Phil Harbison
>*mailName: harbison%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
>*phoneList: 314-731-7475 (w) 314-272-9318 (h)

Try 1861-1865.  


-- 
Matthew B. Shostak              Landmark/Zycor
mbs@zycor.lgc.com               (512) 292-2357
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Why did Syracuse waste so much time?
Date: 21 Nov 1992 18:43:39 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

Miami dodged another bullet at the Carrier Dome.  The key in the second half
was the rejuvenated Orange offense and then the Miami defensive adjustments.  I
still have to wonder about the strategy about using up so much time by
Syracuse.  The TV announcers suggested that Graves was shaken up and needed
time to regroup.  Was this really true?

Next week, Miami faces San Diego State.  I heard that Marshall Faulk left the
Fresno State game today due to an early ankle injury.
-- 
Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
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