From: cjk@netcom.com
Subject: Read this if you are homosexual.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:47:34 GMT

In article <C1Htn6.7KH@agora.rain.com> taurus@agora.rain.com (Scott Burch) writes:
>
>I being a gay man, do not want "special rights".  I just want the rights 
>everyone else has.  

I think that this is fair.

>I just want gays and lesbian couples to be recognized as a joint union
>between two people that love each other. 

Who do you want to recognize this?  Its important.  If you want legal
recognition that is fine and fair.  If you want *moral* social acceptance, thats
a whole different matter.

>I don't believe in quotas for gays and lesbians, or special treatment. 
>Just the same treatment. 

Again, this is reasonable from a legal standpoint.

>It is that simple. 

That is a very simple goal.  One that I agree with whole heartedly.

>I don't want to deal with the hate and bigotry that I deal with every day. 
 
Homosexuals will get eventualy get legal recognition.  But this will not
do away with either anti-homosexual attitudes, or hate and bigotry.  They
are not the same.  Try and understand that some people have very legitimate
reasons for being anti-homosexual, I have found that those that have
legitimate reasons, arent hateful or bigots.  They are protecting there
beliefs just like you would/are protecting your beliefs.

>
>Gay people are forced to watch straight sex on TV constantly, what if 
>straight people were forced to watch gay sex.  Not to say that you have to 
>watch that show.  But, if I want to go see a movie, we must suffer through
>a sex scene that is very offensive to us.  Almost all movies and TV shows
>have at least one.

Here you start to get unreasonable.  One point is, tv entertainment is a 
for profit industry.  They by definition cater to the majority social 
attitude.  And that my friend is (unfortunatly for homosexuals) hetero-
sexuality.  Just because it is nearly the only thing available doesn't
mean you are forced to watch it.

As for heterosexuals being forced to watch gay sex, I'm sure alot of them
will do exactly what I do when confonted with a show that offends me.  I
don't watch it.

As for it being offensive to you, does that mean that you are a bigot
towards heterosexuality?  Do you reserve the right for you to be
offended with heterosexuality, while feeling that heterosexuals should
not be offended by homosexuality?  

As for almost all movies and tv shows having heterosexual scenes in them,
They are market driven.  Thats what appeals to the majority of viewers.
Should we force them to include homosexual love scenes just to be fair?

I am know going to put my flame retardant suit on, and venture into unkown
waters here.

I perceive a confusion among homosexuals with their goals on the politics
of homosexuality.  I would agree that all of them want legal equality
in terms of legal rights and benefits normaly associated with hetero-
sexuality.  This goal is obtainable.  This goal is their basic and 
fundamental right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

But amongst the homosexuals is a group that also want to obtain moral
acceptance.  This is a delusion.  Or ignis fatuus.  As long as homosexuality
is perceived as a life style choice,  the homosexuals will forever be
consigned to life as a moral outcast by anti-homosexuals.  And mainstream
heterosexuals and bisexuals may accept the right of homosexuals to exist as
legal equals to heterosexuals and bisexuals, they will snicker and sneer and
make jokes amoung themselves about them.

There is a perponderance of evidence that man is heterosexual.  If you don't
believe that, don't ask me to convince you, I have no interest in turning
you from your *religion*.  Because to me, Homosexuality is a religion.  And
if they need a god and bible, they can have Kinsey and the Kinsey report.

Now to those who are already dreaming of the great and prolific flames 
that they will hurl my way, please, make them funny.  Try and leave out 
the standard replies that I see in this group, like "ignorant", "get a clue", 
"you just don't get it", ad naseum ...

And I'll leave you with my favorite quote:

"You can beat me, you can kill me, just don't f*#king boor me."

Virtualy,
Chris Kevlahan
cjk@netcom.com

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