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From: 11439106@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (SHAWN FOO)
Subject: Re: NEED HELP QUICK: Value of used Ibanez
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:00:05 GMT

In article <81043@ut-emx.uucp> mohawk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohawk Dave) writes:
>
>I am considering buying a used Ibanez, it is an RG570.  It has tiltback
>headstock, a Floyd Rose tremelo, and even though it's been used heavily
>for about 1 year, it looks very well taken care of.  It comes with a
>standard guitar case;  
>
>How much is this worth?  The guy wants $450, and I have heard different
>stories about what it's worth.
>
	Hey, I only live in Australia so I can't really comment on the price 
but.... I bought a new one a while back for $800+ (take into account the 
exchange rate and all the weird taxes we pay down here..!!! these things 
retail for about $1,400 down here!!! I mean when Al Pitrelli (who was down 
here giving some workshops) found out that the Peavey guitar which he uses 
sells down here for $2000+ he freaked out!!!!)

>Also, if anyone could explain to me the differences in Ibanez models in
>the RG series I would greatly appreciate it.  I know there are some
>very good RG's and then some that aren't so good, but I coudln't tell
>the difference by looking.  
>
	Somebody's already done a bit of explaining in another article, but 
this is what I've go to add:
	- I think the 300's are made in Korea or Taiwan or something whereas 
the higher models are made in Japan
	- Rg540 :- one humbucker and one single coil
	  rg560 :- one humbucker and two single coils

	- 550, 570, 750,770 all have two humbuckers and a single coil, I'm 
not sure what the difference is except that the 50's have a scratchplate 
while the 70's have the controls mounted through the back of the body and 
the pickups screwed through the top....
	- the 700's are supposed to have slighlty better trem systems or 
something but I can't really comment 'cause I've never played one nor do I 
know anyone who has....(too expensive!!!!! :) )
	- personally, I think the 550/570's are great guitars, I like the 
necks and the pickups give a good range of sounds

	hope this has helped....

				S.P. Foo
From: gutzmann@acri.fr (Kurt Gutzmann)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tape Tape Tape!!!
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:56:19 GMT
Reply-To: gutzmann@acri.fr
Organization: Advanced Computer Research Institute

In article ZeJHRB2w165w@TheRat.Kludge.COM, tottori@TheRat.Kludge.COM (Tottori) writes:
>
>if anyone's intersted, my band, Dead Men Wear Plaid, has
>a live demo tape out. it's only for $2!!!
>add $1 for shipping and handling and all that postage crap.
>we are 'sub pop punk rock with an edge' (oooh, sounds weird)
>so, if you are interested, leave me mail with an adress and
>i'll give more details then!
>
>-Tottori
>

Hey dude, I'll give you a marketing hint: don't charge money for
demo stuff.  It's offfensive to the 'potential customer' to make
him pay for information like this.  Particularly if he finds that
he despises your band's sound.  Then he'll probably widely broadcast
the fact the he "even had to PAY for the @#^@#&^#@!!*&^ stuff..."

The downside of paid demos is more dangerous than the footing the
bill yourself.  Providing demos no-charge-to-customer (not free, as you know)
establishes more goodwill in the supplier-customer relationship.

So, if you want, you could send me a demo tape free of charge, to

Kurt Gutzmann
62 bd des Brotteaux
69006 Lyon, France

later dude...
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From: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Acoustic Pickups
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:05:17 GMT
Reply-To: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <PT5yRB5w165w@brewich.hou.tx.us>, donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:
>tom@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>could be the dobro on the cover of "Brother at Arms"???
>I do not know that, and I do not own the album...
 Wow, calling that cd "Brothers at Arms" and not "Brothers In Arms" really
changes the meaning.  It might be more appropriate these days.


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pwai (Patrick Wai)
Subject: ----->  FOR SALE: Washburn GUITAR  <-----
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:50:09 GMT

FOR SALE:

WASHBURN EA30 GUITAR -- acoustic / electric;  black cutaway with built-in
pickup and EQ.

Beautiful instrument.

When I bought the guitar (approx. a year ago) I took it to Gryphon to have
the action lowered.  After I took it home I never played it much.  So
instead of having it sit around gathering dust I want to just get rid of
it.

Comparatively speaking, I think this guitar sounds better plugged in than a
Martin Jumbo or a Taylor 510.  Personal opinion of course.

No case included (I'm keeping it for another guitar).

I'm asking $275, but might be willing to barter for something like a CD
boom box with remote or a mountain bike.

Email: pwai@adobe.com
Office (415) 962-2105
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: acoggins@dial.Princeton.EDU (Adam Cody Coggins)
Subject: Re: Experienced Beginer needs advice
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:23:19 GMT

In article <19ukiaINN2va@agate.berkeley.edu> turin@soda.berkeley.edu (Jaime Reza) writes:
>Hello.
>
>I have been playing electrical guitar by ear for
>like 7 years and I've decided I want to learn
>to play classical. Anyone could kindly give
>me some advice on what I should start to learn
>I can't read music but am wondering if there
>are Tablatures for some good classical songs.

IMHO, tab is a dead end for classical guitar.  You may
occasionally find tab in a beginning classical guitar book and
an occasional classical arrangement in a Guitar magazine that uses tab.
However, the bulk of the classical literature is in standard
notation.

Some introductory classical guitar books start with
a good explanation of how to read music.  I would
suggest getting such a book and practicing reading 
music on some simple songs (songs that are easy
for you to play, so you can concentrate on the 
notation.)

Every bit of theory that I have learned has paid me
back in terms of enjoyment and increased possibilities.
When you can read standard musical notation, you
can pick up works for Classical Guitar, Violin,
Piano, Flute, Bass, etc. and play them on your
guitar.  Understanding things like scales and chords
helps your sight-reading ability and improvizational 
ability.  A little more theory will help you
transpose and arrange music.  And, very important,
if you play music with other people, knowing the 
rudiments of notation and theory will make it much
easier to communicate with them.

- Cody Coggins <acoggins@phoenix.princeton.edu>
 (Pontificating from the safe interior of my flame-proof bunker)  

 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject:   Midi and 4-track
Reply-To: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:52:54 GMT

	The Fostex X-18 4 track recorder has the MIDI capability to record a
sync. track and then control a Midi device.  I have a DR550 drum machine that
has Midi in only.  Would I be able to record a sync. track from something else
like a sequencer and use that track to control my drum machine, or do you have
to record a sync track with the same machine that you want to control.  In
other words I could use some elses sequencer to record ( stripe I think its
called) sync tracks on cassettes and use them to record on, saving the drum
parts for last. 

								Bill


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"The blues is a low down achein' chill"  Robert Johnson
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: Tube Screamer
Summary: Tube Screamer
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:56:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.133845.1@wharton.upenn.edu>, hsu22@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
> The Tube Screamer doesn't just boost volume and add a little grunge to the
> sound.  Most of those who claim they don't like the tube screamer don't
> understand its use.  Besides pushing power amp distortion over the edge, the TS
> is extremely useful for amps with plenty of preamp distortion as well.  The
> glory of the TS is not in its stand alone sound, but in the way it interacts
> with amp distortion.  The pedal adds midrange emphasis, reinforces the 
> fundamental harmonic and cleans up the bass range.  Articulation is improved
> when playing fast and with a lot of distortion.  The TS allows you to increase
> gain without losing definition.  Unfortunately, it also increases noise.  So,
> for those of you out there testing out TS's through completely clean amps,
> you're not getting the full impact of the TS phenomenon.  
> 
> BTW, I have the old TS10 and they are far superior to the TS9's.  Haven't tried
> the TS5 yet though.

	Sounds like this was directed at me.8^)
	I have only used the old Tube Screamer thru a Super reverb. Ive never
	tried it with a amp that has pre-amp distortion. Its sound like you
	have had alot more exposure. My statement with regards to people not
	liking the TS-5/9 was, that some guitarist think that with a T.S.
	and a Strat they are gonna sound like SRV. We all know thats not so.
	
	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: osminer@spot.Colorado.EDU (OSMINER MATTHEW COREY)
Subject: Opamps?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:03:39 GMT



i'm still looking for my old schematics.  The best Preamp or amp
for that matter is a push pull style.  This is what the old tube
amps are usually set up to do as well as the bulk of CMOS and
Transistor models.  The concept is just two MOSFET's or BJT's
one PNP and the other NPN.  One is active when the input signal is
negative and the other is active when the signal is positive.
The response is quick because you're always on an active basis
and the sound is superb.  now if I could ever find the bloody
schematic I had for one I'd send a description!!  Anybody got
something similar?

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From: grungie@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Neal Townsend)
Subject: Ballad of Jayne
Keywords: Ballad of Jayne, by L.A. Guns.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 01:29:37 GMT

Doe anyone out in the civilized world have the tab to Ballad of Jayne by L.A.
Guns? Huh? Huh? Does anyone? I checked ftp.nevada and I was SOL. Well, if anyone can help, thanks in advance. 


					Grungie the Wise




Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ohtonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Zoom Effects Box Opinions Please!
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:51:44 GMT

I had one (9002), but I sold it. My opinions of the device:

+ Great reverb and delay sounds. 
+ Perfect at home (especially with headphones and CD on the "mix"-input)
+ Nice user interface with the slide controls
+ very good compressor

- Too hard overdive sounds (for more blues-oriented playing),
- quite limited eq controls,
- too short battery life for live perfomace and rehersals
- patch change difficult while playing (without the optional foot pedal)
- not enough output level for my amp (I had Music Man then)

This may be subjective, but when the unit was between my guitar and amp 
I felt somehow, that the best "definition" or "attack" was lost...

Anyway, I decided not to buy any digital effect for a while.

If you're looking for a practice amp for home it really is great
unit. I sold it mainly because it did not suit well for blues and
for live perfomace.

-Pasi
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cseb@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de (Christian Sebeke)
Subject: Mail order house the U.K.
Reply-To: cseb@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Univ. Hannover, LFI, Abt. Design&Test
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:11:36 GMT

Hello

  Could you recomment a mail order house in the UNITED KINGDOM that
ships to the continent?

Thanks for your response.

Christian

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Christian Sebeke, Univ. Hannover/LFI, Schneiderberg 32, D-3000 Hannover 1                             Tel: +49 511 762 5035                    sebeke@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de
From: lawt@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Lawrence M Trout)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: output levels and impedences of guitars and basses
Keywords: electronics, guitars, basses
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:12:39 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

I would like a rough idea of the typical output levels of both electric
guitars and basses with both active and passive pickups. Also acoustic
electric and piezo pickups. If any of you electronic buffs out there have
measured your own guitars or basses or maybe have looked this up, please 
fill me in. I am thinking about designing some effects for both guitar
and bass and need to know about compatability problems that might arrise.

Thanks.

Larry Trout

P.S. anyone out there with opinions on Carvin guitars? I love mine!
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From: donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Acoustic Pickups
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 11:25:48 CDT
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, +1 713 272 7350, Brewich.Hou.TX.US

tom@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

> ps  In their small brochure, Ashworth plug the fact that a
> guitar on the cover of "the world's biggest selling CD" is
> fitted with an Ashworth transducer.  What CD are they referring to?
> I've racked my brain and drawn a blank!!

could be the dobro on the cover of "Brother at Arms"???
I do not know that, and I do not own the album...


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: root@ute.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Need info on Epiphone Century 
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 17:00:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.142015.17070@msi.com> mark@msi.com (Mark Benzel) writes:
>I have an Epiphone Century which is not completely original.  It has Grover
>tuners instead of the originals and I believe that the tailpiece is
>different.  The books that I have looked at state that the original tailpiece
>was one known as a Freqonsator (??) which is actually 2 tailpieces in 1
>with a longer length for the 3 lower (in pitch) strings.  However, the
>books which show pictures of a Century show it with the single tailpiece
>which is on mine.  Mine is a 1959 version which was built by Gibson with parts
>left over from Epiphone after Gibson bought them out.  So perhaps they
>mixed and matched.  The pickup is a single-coil pickup known as a New Yorker.
>The main reason I purchased the Century was that I am returning to playing
>the guitar after a 20 year hiatus and I wanted a guitar that had a decent
>acoustic sound but with a pickup so that I could go electric later on.
>I've had it for about 2 months now and I am very satisfied with my purchase.
>My only quibble is that the pickup produces a fair amount of hum.
>The price I paid was $300.
>
>Mark

I have an Epiphone Century that is either a 1955 or 1956 model. I'm pretty
sure that it was made before Gibson bought out Epiphone. It has no    
cutaway and a single pickup. It too has the standard tailpiece and not the
frequensator tailpiece. I haven't seen a picture of a Century with a frequ.
tailpiece. The Century was a budget student guitar but contemporary student
guitars do not compare to its quality. I believe the body may be laminated
walnut and the fretboard is rosewood. My guitar also has replacement grovers
as many of the epis from this time have. I got mine for $100 but that was a
steal. If yours is in excellent shape it could be worth $425 to a collector.
I'd try to pay less. The old Epiphone guitars are definitely good jazz guitars
and are fairly loud acoustically. Check out "American Guitars" in the Epiphone
section to see a picture of a Century. Also "George Gruhn's Vintage Guitar
Guide" will give you an idea of how rare they are and the materials used from
year to year. The Century is one of the most prolific Epiphones in existance.

Good Luck!
Richard.Maxwell
From: readdm@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David M. Read)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Help! Tension forces in the strings?
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:16:50 GMT
Organization: UT-Austin Nuclear Physics (Jerry's Kids)

In article <> jhughes@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason C. Hughes) writes:
>Interestingly enough, I read today that the units for Tension has now been
>changed to kg instead of newtons.  I learn something every day.
>
>Unless I am mistaken, or musicians have redefined tension to suit their needs,
>tension is measured in kg m/s/s.  Just a little note of clarification,
>

What they've probably done is defined tension as something like
"kilograms hanging from the string."  This kinda works, because then
there is a multiplicative factor of gravity associated with the
system, which converts kilograms to Newtons (kg/m/s/s), with a 9.8
thrown in for the hell of it.  The (minimal) advantage is that then
conversions to pounds work straight away, because the pound is really
a unit of force to start with.

I personally think it's stupid thing to do, but who am I?


-- 
Dave Read  (readdm@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)  UT-Austin Nuclear Physics Grad Student 
    "I have analyzed the works of your Saint Thomas Aquinas...most of the 
  content seems to be sense-free random noise, and so devoid of information."
            -Starglider, in Arthur Clarke's _Fountains_Of_Paradise_
From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: NEED HELP QUICK: Value of used Ibanez
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:30:38 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

well...

first of all....I wouldn't pay that much forit because the one that I bought
was $500 brand new with a gigbag...

The RG series is pretty much all very good guitars. The reason why some people
think some are good and others suck is because the variety that the Rg's come 
in. The RG 500's are very slim and touchy guitars, while the RG 700's are more
smoother to play. The old RG 400's are harder to play but you get a crisper 
sound, similar to a Les Paul. To all their own. All the RG series guitars are
very good, just find one that you like and feel comfortable with.

Oh BTW....there was another series of RG's that I couldn't quite remember...
I think the 600's or 300's or something like that....but those are the ones
that are really funky shaped....(e.g. Warlock type shape, Explorer, V, Chip...)

Hope that helped...




Later,
Merlin
From: haley@husc10.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Experienced Beginer needs advice
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:58:40 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I would add a suggestion to find a good teacher. I have founf there is
more to Classical Guitar than just playing Old pieces or doing
everything with your individual fingers... While the basic technique
is easy enough to understand, the hard part about it is proper form.
My experience has been that improper form might get the job done, but
it limits the tone control and speed at which you may play, which
means that if you want to say integrate your playing into rock music
or another style, you will find it harder than you might suppose...
A good teacher can show you more quickly when your form, and therfore
tone, is bad. It's too easy to build bad habits when you are on your
own, and even though some classical teachers can be anal retentive
about it, good form came about because of years of trying to improve
efficiency...
From: palmm@csc2.essex.ac.uk (Palmer M J)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar Necks, Oiled
Keywords: guitar necks
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:50:56 GMT
Reply-To: palmm@essex.ac.uk (Palmer M J)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <1992Sep30.051726.10017@den.mmc.com> plummer@den.mmc.com (Mike Plummer) writes:
>I've noticed necks with a dull finish in the music stores.  My brother-in-law
>would like his neck done such.  If there are any other luthiers or guitar 
>owners out there that might know how this is done, could you let me know 
>what you think.

What about using mat varnish?



Mik.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson)
Subject: Anyone want to sell a Zoom 9030 or 9002?
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:15:58 GMT


I'd like to buy a used Zoom signal processor.  Either a Zoom 9030
(preferably) or a Zoom 9002 with a 9002F foot controller.

New price for a 9030 from a mail order house is $539.  Used equipment
generally sells for about half of new so an offer of $270-$300 for a
9030 seems reasonable.

Ken Shirriff's used price list (thanks Ken!) says a 9002 was recently
offered on the net for:

Zoom 9002 effects processor     150

so under $200 seems reasonable for a 9002 w/controller.

If you have one you'd like to sell please send me email!
ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron
From: nvats@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: lefty woes
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:20:45 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Hi there.

First off, I'd like to thank all those who gave me valuable advice on what
music schools I should check out.

Now that the mushy stuff is out of the way, here's my dilemma.  I've noticed
that every few years, guitar manufacturers seem to decide to put out
their whole line of guitars in left-handed models (yay!), but soon this 
WONDERFUL idea (being a leftie myself) seems to fizzle out (aw!), only to come 
back again a few years later.  What do you other lefties out there think is the
problem?  Are we such a small minority of the market that we can be ignored,
or be forced to pay 10-15% more for the same guitar?!  

What sparked my "anger" this time was a trip to my local music store.  I had
been looking for a quote on an Ibanez AS-200 guitar (a la Schofield).  In
the past, it seems to me that Ibanez has been one of the kinder companies to 
lefties  - but my friendly guitar salesman told me that they don't make
lefty models anymore!  Say it ain't so!

So, like I'd appreciate any info to the contrary on the Ibanez, and some
feedback from you lefties out there on availability of guitars and 
your own sob/success stories in finding lefties...then again, maybe I'm the 
only one here who's left-handed (Jimi, where are you!) :)


Lefties, fight the power!

Nipun Vats
Pysics Dept., Dalhousie University
e-mail: nvats@ac.dal.ca

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