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From: mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Non-Conf Foes (was: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule)
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:07:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov17.211156.13154@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa
.gov (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <1ebjcqINNd6v@rave.larc.nasa.gov> ddo@wmod2000.larc.nasa.gov (Dale
>Ohmann) writes:
>> 1993 FSU Non-Conference Opponents:
>>
>> >
>> > FSU: Miami(*), Tulane, Florida(*).
>> >
>>
>> I believe that Tulane has been replaced with Notre Dame (in South Bend) for
>> 1993.  Talk about a difficult non-conference schedule!  Notre Dame will
>> play the Seminoles in Florida in 1994, although not in Doak Campbell
>> Stadium at FSU.  I think they will play at the Citrus Bowl in Orlando.
>
>Did Notre Dame get an extra slot in their schedule by Penn State
>dropping them?  Usually they're booked way in advance.  I'm sure
>Tulane will appreciate the change - they must miss Mack Brown a lot
>(recently).
>
>> At least noone can claim the 'Noles are taking the patsy path to the MNC.
>
>Only those people that keep on insisting that the ACC is a weak conference
>outside of FSU.
>
>--
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>
Who do you think you are kidding?  In football the ACC has Clemson, Virginia,
NC State, Carolina, FSU, and Georgia Tech.  All of whom have been ranked
recently and Maryland is on the verge of a huge breakthrough.  Top to bottom,
sport to sport.  With or without the addition of FSU, ACC is the best
conference around.
-- 
MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN
758-0207
MLSA

"I really do appreciate the fact you're sitting here, you're voice sounds so
wonderful but your face don't look too clear so barmaid bring a pitcher,
another round of brew, why don't we get drunk and screw?"- J. Buffett
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Subject: Re: Oops! (was Re: I-AA Playoff Picture
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:18:26 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov17.174338.6744@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>Gee--forgot to put the Panthers in there.  I knew if I did this, I would screw 
>up.  Scratch Umass--Put UNI in their place.
>
>Sorry, UNI fans--I hope my first errant choices are not blessed with the gift 
>of prophecy.  I would really catch hell then--especially since I caused UNI to 
>lose to E. Illinois.:-)
>
Looks like Patrick is scared of the UNI-Panthers.  Now if his power of
prophecy is real, I'll have to request his posting priviledges be
revoked.   As they say, "there'll be hell to pay, mister".
--
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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Sunday morning QB
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:41:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



o The Arizona Wildcats finally met a team that can pass and run the ball
  well. And their offensive weakness showed up. USC had to use their trick
  plays, but they got the job done.

o I went to the stadium to see the Hawaii-SDSU game. Your typical WAC game,
  17-14 after one quarter, ho hum. SDSU turned it on in the 2nd half, and
  won the game easy going away. 

o Faulk was awesome. A big 67 yd run early on. The deep passing game was
  clicking, and that opened the flood gates for Faulk's 300 yd performance.

o SDSU wins the WAC title and goes to the Holiday Bowl if they beat Fresno
  St next week at home.

o Great morning game, PSU at ND, decided on that great catch by Brooks for
  the win. Thats the kind of play I like to see. Who the heck cares for his
  stats. He was the critical difference on the ball game. 

o Good football weekend for the Southern California teams. They all won,
  USC, UCLA, SDSU.. pro teams all won LARaiders, OrangeCountyRams, and the
  Chargers.

o ESPN's credibility is sinking faster than George Bush's approval rating 
  did. Somebody please get the C-man out of there. 



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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Bowl Matchups
Summary: Colorado/USC vs. Syracuse in the Fiesta
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.173158.29364@asuvax.eas.asu.edu> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
>jay@puppsr12.Princeton.EDU (Jay Shrauner) writes:
>> 5.  Fiesta Bowl--Notre Dame(7)/
>> 
>> Now after this I'm not sure.  I figure ND will end up in the Fiesta
>> because they will want better competition than Nebraska.
>
>     Well the talk around Tempe is the Pac-10
>runnerup (or Colorado, which I personally find
>hard to believe) vs. Syracuse, unless of course
>Miami and Florida State end up #1 and #2, in which
>case they would play in the Fiesta for the
>mythical national championship.

The Fiesta Bowl seems to want an East-West match-up, and Colorado is the
highest ranked team among the western conference (Big 8, SWC, and Pac
10) runners-up.  After Arizona's loss to USC, the Trojans are the other
contender for a bid to Tempe -- they're favored to beat UCLA and finish
second in the conference, right?  If they also go on to beat Notre Dame,
I wouldn't be surprised to see them leapfrog Colorado in the standings,
and send Colorado elsewhere (Blockbuster/Gator/Hancock).

But I'd love to spend New Year's at the Fiesta Bowl with the Buffaloes
and the Orangemen!  Especially if they beat the Canes this week :-)
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
From: ward@max.cchem.berkeley.edu (Ward Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Great Big 8 QBs
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:53:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: max.cchem.berkeley.edu

   Someone already mentioned Rusty Hilger starting for the Raiders for a
while.  I believe he then went on to back up Jeff George at Indianapolis
for a season or two and I heard recently that he is a backup at Seattle
now.
   Mike Gundy was hired immediately after his senior season to be the
quarterbacks (I think) coach at OSU.

				Ward Thompson

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: smithg@a.cs.okstate.edu (SMITH GARY WAYNE)
Subject: Re: Cougars CRUSH Huskies!
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 19:56:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.084310.17281@u.washington.edu> wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat) writes:
>Probably not, he got his "education" at WSU
>You piece of shit, can't you accept your gift gracefully? 
>Maybe this gift will make you forget you are living in a shit-hole
>called Pullman, at least till you wake up in a pile of cow shit.  
...

Gracious, even in defeat.  Commendable.  

- goober (lurking among the sleaze in r.s.f.c) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.baseball.college
From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Keywords: tiguzz
Organization: ^$
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.172416.12181@nntpserver.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>tino writes:
>>
>>Well Last year the Florida State Seminoles became the first team 
>>since LSU in the early Eighties to win a major bowl in football,
>>have a sweet sixteen hoop squad and send a team to the College 
>>World Series.... Not too bad, huh?
>
>These are the ONLY two times in NCAA history that that has happened.  In
>1987, the Tiger football team finished #4 in the nation at 10-1-1 with a
>30-13 win over USC in the Gator Bowl, the Baseball Tigers had a Top Five 
>finish in Omaha at the CWS, and Daddy Dale took the LSU basketball team 
>to the Elite Eight in the Tourney before losing to eventual Champ
>Louisville. 
 (Indiana actually- by 1 point. Remember the phone-slamming incident?)

 Or look at it this way: in *1986*, the football Tigers went to the Sugar Bowl,
the baseball Tigers went to the CWS, and the basketball Tigers went to the 
Final Four. Has this ever happened before?

>
>Those were the days.....
>
>J.J. (GOD I HATE STEVE YOUNG) Clyde
>
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: Re: Huskers lose. Mega-Major Bummer!!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:28:13 GMT

ongh@iastate.edu (Undertaker...) writes:

>Incorrect! ISU has been running the triple option all season. ISU has not been
>known to be a great passing team. ISU coach Walden has said well before the 
>game he was gonna run-run-run, limited number of passing. this was because
>ISU was starting 5th year back-up Seiler for the first time due to injury to 
>the starting QB. There was no "semi-wishbone" as you call it, it was wishbone
>formation all the way, plus split backs...something like the run and shoot.
> 
That much is true. ISU just plain did a great job running their offense.

>there was no wind...forget it, it was cold, but no wind, their failure to make

HOld it, time out! I was at the game and those flags situated around the
stadium were whipping pretty good. The wind was coming from the NorthWest at a
steady 10-13 mph with gusts up to 20mph. The wind definately had an affect 
on the game, 3 of ISU's FGs were kicked with the wind. And the wind made the
Wind Chill miserable. The rest of your assesment is true, the ISU defense 
played inspired football not letting the Husker offense get into any type of 
rythm. They deserved to win, not us.

I just had to make the record clear about the wind because *I* was freezing my
butt off in it.

>a comeback was stimied by ISU defense. several plays, 3rd and 3or 4, they try
>a running play and the Cornerback just plain tackled the RB for a loss...
>Plus, they have seldom been caught with 3rd and long all season.....
>NU is still a great team from many(including myself) people's point of view.
>They just plain under-estimated ISU, plus, they might be looking ahead towards
>the OU game........

>I'd bet that the Huskers must be thinking, "well, we beat CU and KU by such 
>big margin, what is ISU? Let's have a 600-700 yds offense today, huh?"
>....or something like that.

I'll admit that is what my buddies and I were thinking. This was supposed to
be a stat padding game. Both Brown and Jones were supposed to break 1k yards
and Frazier was supposed to improve on his passing. Why did you have to go and
ruin it? <grin> Congrats again for playing a great game.

>Hank
>ongh@iastate.edu

--
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Comp. Sci. Graduate Student		compuserve: 	76146,2323
University of Nebraska at Omaha		AOL:		skipb
My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!
From: rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU - ND - Miami etc ...
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:58:10 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <BxvzwM.8xx@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>
>
>And finally, why do you wish FSU would find Miami's number someday ?
>I thought ND didn't give a damn about that other southern team. :-)
>
>Justin - cane fan who doesn't care if we ever play ND again - Frederich
>
>(there that ought to get Szerba typing)
>

Justin,

I think you've got ND fans all wrong.  We do give a damn
about all your favorite Florida teams.  They just get so upset
when we beat them.    

   	- rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: trev@well.sf.ca.us (Trevor Zion Bauknight)
Subject: Re: Big Thursday
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:38:15 GMT

In <1992Nov18.190427.16735@infonode.ingr.com> bmr@gonzo.b15.ingr.com writes:

>Can anyone out there tell me when and why the Carolina/Clemson game is no
>longer played on Big Thursday?  I think it would be an interesting thing to
>revive (especially since ESPN has been showing games of more regional than
>national interest on Thursday nights anyway.) .  The only problem I can see
>is that they would either have only 5 days to prepare for their most hated
>foe or would have to skip a week and play on Thanksgiving day.

The primary reason is that Big Thursday was always during the State Fair,
and was always played in Columbia.  For some reason, Clemson wanted to
play the game on a home and home basis, and that blew the whole concept.
There has been some talk about pushing the game back to October and
actually playing on Thursday to restore some of the significance to the
game since it has been overshadowed by other important games within
the ACC and (now) the SEC, not to mention the recent dominance of
Clemson in the series.  Who knows if that will happen...I doubt it.
Moving the game to Thanksgiving Thursday would probably destroy the
concept of the family in South Carolina...having only five days
of hype wouldn't work either.  Not much point in putting it off until
the Thursday after Thanksgiving, so...  Either they'll move it back
to October or leave it where it is...probably the latter.

By the way, it's nice to be back on the net after a short (and untimely)
absence.  I'm now on the WELL, which is great except that it costs
and it lacks the One True Editor.  I hope to resume publication
of the Palmetto Football Tuesday report, but I doubt that it will 
regain the bulk it once had, since I can't imagine editing the
thing on here as it was...  Perhaps I'll use my word-processor here
at my little place in the hills and then upload it.  In any case,
it's good to be back...
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@well.sf.ca.us       Jes' Grew Carriers
 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:11:09 GMT

Jeff Quinn (jeffq@bang.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov19.152500.26712@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:

Read this line right here a little closer, Jeff.

: >K. S. Manu (manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

: >: You talked about FSU squeaking by.. How about A&M. They seueaked
: >: by a Texas Tech by 1 point, the same team which was beaten by
:         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^             
: >: 35 pts by a not-so-hot OU. They squeaked past a not-so-hot
: >: stanford by 3 points. They defeated Baylor by 3-points at
: >                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >: home, the same baylor which lost by 20 pts to Colorado.
: >: Then recently, they defeated a Houston team by 4 pts which
:                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >: was beaten 63-3 by Michigan! Yes, A&M is sure playing like
: >: a champion.
: >-- 
: >Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
: >scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
: >(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
: 
: FYI: Texas A&M 19 Texas Tech 17
:      Texas A&M 19 Baylor 13
:      Texas A&M 38 Houston 30
: 
: Check your math Scott!

Read the "So-and-so wrote:" lines a little closer, Jeff.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES)
Keywords: travesty
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:14:41 GMT

In article <timlin.722038242@spot.Colorado.EDU> timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin) writes:
>
>Wouldn't a UI-MSU tie make both teams ineligible for the bowls?  Neither
>would have 6 wins, and an Iowa loss would keep them out too.  I would
>think that the big10? would keep quiet and let the Holiday go elsewhere
>rather than cancel the game :).

	Again, I'm not sure that has been addressed.  Illinois would be
	5-4-2 with a tie, MSU 5-5-1.  I have a feeling the Holiday folks
	would go elsewhere then, or maybe take Wisconsin, at 6-5, if
	the Buckys beat Northwestern.  I really can't say for sure, though...

-- 
-------------------------------
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crichard@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (christopher richards)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:04:03 GMT

sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson) writes:

>As for Washington State, I know they've beaten at least one winner:
>us (that'd be Arizona).  They beat the Cats in Tucson (only home loss
>this year) and scored 23 points, the most scored by anyone against
>Arizona this season.  Even if they lose Saturday to Washington, they
>will have lost to far better teams than Iowa has...BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Probably not.  Iowa has lost to Miami, Michigan, Colorado, NC State, Ohio
State, and Purdue.  If you doubt the difficulty of the first 5, check
out a Top 20 list.  If you doubt the ability of Purdue to play well on
a given Saturday, ask fellow Pac-10er California.  

Granted, Iowa has not beaten any world beaters this year, but in chalking
up victories over Illinois, Wisconsin, and Iowa State they did something
that neither Michigan, Ohio State, nor Nebraska could do.  It isn't Iowa's
fault that their scedule was polarized with an abundence of very good
teams and average teams, but very little in between.

Also keep in mind that if Iowa wins on Saturday, they could very well
end up in 2nd place in the Big 10 with a Michigan win over Ohio State
and an Illinois win over Michigan State.  Even in a pathetic year for
the B10, it would be unusual for a team tied for 2nd to stay at home.
This, coupled with the fact that Iowa has had extraordinary injury
problems this year and should be healthy at bowl time, makes Iowa a
decent bowl selection.


>> Bill

Chris R


>--

>Steve Matheson   Program in Neuroscience   University of Arizona
>sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
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From: jjungbau@meriadoc.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Keywords: The Big Ten sucks.
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:28:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.120840.61049@cc.usu.edu>, sl45z@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> 
|> 	Is this years field of Bowl-eligable teams rather dismal? (piss-poor) 
|> I get sick listening to people talk about teams with 6-5 or 5-5 records who
|> have hopes of a Bowl showi.  
                                 [more deleted...]

No kidding!  It's especially ridiculous that the Big Ten will probably
have as many or more teams in bowls than the PAC-10.  Every time I hear
about Iowa going to the Copper Bowl at 6-5 I cringe, knowing that WSU is
more deserving.  Even if we lose the Apple Cup, at 7-4, we're still better
than Iowa.  I'll take our PAC-10 teams against those good-for-nothing
Big Ten teams anyday.  Unfortunately, how good you are seems to have nothing
to do with it, and to make matters worse, people around here don't seem to
be aware of that... even the WSU newspaper showed the Cougars in the Copper
Bowl Slot in its little 'projected bowl matchup' section.  I think a lot of
people are going to be disappointed... especially if we somehow *do* upset
the Huskies and *still* don't go to a bowl, at 8-3.

Let me just add that even though I am obviously not a Husky fan, once the
Apple Cup is over, I will be counting the days until the Rose Bowl, so we
can see the Dawgs wipe the field with an overrated Michigan team, and show
just how pathetic the Big Ten really is.

Jim
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: ACC Non-Conf Foes (was: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:11:56 GMT

In article <1ebjcqINNd6v@rave.larc.nasa.gov> ddo@wmod2000.larc.nasa.gov (Dale  
Ohmann) writes:
> 1993 FSU Non-Conference Opponents:
> 
> > 
> > FSU: Miami(*), Tulane, Florida(*).
> > 
> 
> I believe that Tulane has been replaced with Notre Dame (in South Bend) for
> 1993.  Talk about a difficult non-conference schedule!  Notre Dame will
> play the Seminoles in Florida in 1994, although not in Doak Campbell 
> Stadium at FSU.  I think they will play at the Citrus Bowl in Orlando.

Did Notre Dame get an extra slot in their schedule by Penn State 
dropping them?  Usually they're booked way in advance.  I'm sure
Tulane will appreciate the change - they must miss Mack Brown a lot
(recently).

> At least noone can claim the 'Noles are taking the patsy path to the MNC.

Only those people that keep on insisting that the ACC is a weak conference
outside of FSU.   

--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
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From: traynor@fnalc.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Request for results of AP and USA today polls
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:16:04 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalc.fnal.gov

Hello--

If anyone can send me the results of the AP and USA Today polls, I would 
appreciate it.  Thanks.

					-Mike Traynor


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