From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Family Values
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:13:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1992Sep7.154642.12539@athena.mit.edu> jfed@athena.mit.edu.UUCP (Jude G Federspiel) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.214508.6895@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>
>As for the preachers, let me clear up one thing.  No Biblical Christian 
>who has a firm conviction that the Bible is the word of God can ignore what 
>it says:

Translation:

 No one who takes certain english translations of the bible literally 
 can ignore what they think it says.

>"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them has done
>what is detestable"
>	--Leviticus 18:22

Funny that you left off the part about the penalty. Perhaps you didn't
want to tell mycroft that we are right? If you take this garbage as
literal truth you are calling for genocide and you know it. 

[more quotes deleted]

>And as for a _non-Biblical_ Christian, well, such a thing exists in name
>only.  

I thought Christians where folowers of Christ? Then why do I never see
those who claim to be the only "real christians" quoteing every book of the
bible but the four Gospels? Could it be that you can find fuel for your
wickedness in his speech? There are some Christians that I respect Martin
Luther King is one, however those like yourself turn your religion into
a Den of bigots and money hungry TV preachers. If Christ was here today
he would rip the sattelite dish off of Pat's roof and shove it down his
throat.

>And no, preachers for the most part _don't_ preach about condemnation for
>the ugly (I'm not endorsing preachers on the whole here; many of them
>are quite foolish) but preaching that homosexuality is a sin and as such
>is to be avoided is very Biblical.  This doesn't mean I'm telling anybody 
>to hate [or fear] homosexuals, so don't bash me for homophobia or hate 
>tactics or something equally silly.  "Hate the sin, love the sinner" is 
>the most applicable thing I can think of at the moment.

This doesn't work in practice. Read the bottom article in todays NYT, a
preacher whose wife got HIV from a blood tranfusion, he met with so much
hatred and bigotry that he was forced to speak out against his former
church. His church wouldn't even allow his son into sunday school.  The
story sounds like the good samariten (remembers those things called the
Gosepls that "real christians" never bother reading), initially he was a
homophobe, but in the end he was rejected by his church and only found
support in the gay community. This is only the spill over of the sespool of
hatred festering in so called christianity.  

If you want to know what I think about fundementalism (I know you don't
but that never stopped you before):

Copyright(c), 1992, Lawrence Foard IV
May be copied and distributed freely in unmodified form.


                    WICKED WORM


 Be gone wicked deceiving worm that eats the soul, 
 the parasite that denies its maker! 

 We evolved from star dust as did you vile worm.
 
 Feast upon our souls and tell us you are God.

 Wicked meme very deceiver you speak of,
 the snake,
 the evil one.

 You deny us our existence, 
 heaven you cannot give, 
 empty threat of hell to catch your meal. 

 Worm your day's are numbered, 
 chase you to the cave of husks of devoured souls we will,
 cave where the stench of ignorance reeks like rotted flesh. 

 We come seeking vengeance for 40 million dead and dying.
 
 Wicked worm you cannot hide,
 we are mortal but our ideas will fight on when we die,
 vengeance will not be denied!
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