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From: mkent@netcom.com (Marty Kent)
Subject: X-Plicit Players tour schedule
Organization: Netcom
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:28:40 GMT


Here's a list of the places the X-Plicit Players are going to 
visit in the last half of October. I've included phone numbers 
to call to get details on any of the events.  The PeacePlay 
and Act of Intimacy are 5-hour rituals of contact and merging 
through reading, sound and touch. The Customs Workshop is 30-
hour intensive meeting where we find out in depth about each 
other's practices of enjoyment, intimacy and communion. Call 
for more info if you're at all tickled...

Thursday, 15 Oct 
"Top-free Street Action"
1:30 pm, outside Europa Books, 2406 Guadalupe, Austin, Tx

Friday and Saturday, 16 and 17 Oct
"X-Plicit Act of Intimacy"
8 pm, Synergy Studio, 1501 W. 5th St., Austin, Tx

For info on these events call Debbie Moore at 512 495 9064.

================================

Tuesday, 20 Oct
"X-Plicit Act of Intimacy"
7 pm, Genesee Inn, 1060 E. Genesee St., Syracuse, NY

Wednesday and Friday, 21 and 23 Oct
"X-Plicit PeacePlay"
7:30 pm (Weds), 8:00 pm (Fri), Genesee Co-op, Sunken Room, 715 
Monroe Ave., Rochester, NY

Saturday through Sunday, 24-25 Oct
"X-Plicit Customs Workshop"
10 am Saturday 'til 6 pm Sunday

For info on these events, call Morley Schloss at 716 244 1219

=================================

Monday 26 Oct
"Lecture/Video with Deb Moore's X-Plicit Players"
7:30 pm, East Lecture Hall in Franklin Patterson Hall, 
Hampshire College, Northhampton, Mass.

Tuesday, 27 Oct
"X-Plicit Act of Intimacy"
7:30 pm, The Red Barn, Hampshire College, Northhampton, Mass.

For info on these events, call Whitney Witt at 413 584 9250

-- 
Marty Kent 				mkent@netcom.com
Sixth Sense R & D			510 548 9129
1914A Haste St.
Berkeley Ca 94704

Kent's Heuristic: Look for it first where you'd most like to find it.
"You're soaking in it..." - Madge
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Sunscreens -- as good as their SPF numbers? (was: Tanning
Date: 14 Oct 1992 00:06:59 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Oct13.134633.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
-than most.  The "F" in "SPF" stands for factor.  An SPF of 2 cuts the 
-sun in half, more specifically, you would burn the same in 60 minutes 
-of sun with the sunscreen than you would in 30 minutes without it.  
-An SPF of 30 means that you could spend 4 hours in the sun with it 
-and get the same sun as 8 minutes without it.

Good explanation.  I've known the above for quite some time now but
still enjoy explaining to people that SPF 24 means they can stay in
the sun for 24 hours straight.  Then I sit back and watch their faces
as they try to figure it out.  (good stuff for those long artic summer days)

-Now that we've mastered this, Consumer Reports notes that the ratings 
-are based on how much sunscreen the manufacturer uses, not how much *you* 
-use.  They found that very few people used "enough" sunscreen to get 
-the claimed SPF.  Very few people would *want* to!

Well worth noting.

-- 
"These are difficult times for our country, and in searching for the causes
of our social ills, we could chose to blame the media, or the congress, or
an administration that's been in power for 12 years, or we could blame me."
							Murphy Brown
From: glenm@bnr.ca (Glen Martin)
Subject: Re: health clubs and puppy dogs
Keywords: weight-training health club
Reply-To: glenm@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 12:54:43 GMT

In article <Bvnu8w.2Lp@news.cecer.army.mil>, wwheeler@news.cecer.army.mil (Wes Wheeler) writes:
|> In flipping through the ASA guide, it doesn't appear that there are many
|> sports facilities at clubs.  
...
|> Why no demand for a fitness center, including a weight room, indoor track,
|> court sports, etc.?
...
|> I'd a thought there would be a lot more interest from a group of people that
|> tend to be health conscious (I know, it's an over-generalization).  

Ok. the view of nudism as a 'health concious' thing appears to be limited
to Europe, especially Switzerland and Germany. Here in NA, few partakers
seem to be interested in any health aspects. They're just interested in
the social thing.

There are exceptions, especially out west, where there are several health
resorts/retreats/whatever which are CO.

|> While on that point, why so many cigarette smokers???

<Sigh> I don't know, and I don't like it. I thought it was just around
here ...

|> If I were to organize a landed club, would there be enough interest 
|> ($ from users/guests) to support an indoor sports facility and a complete
|> indoor non-smoking policy?

Well, *I'd* be interested. I don't get to Florida very often, though.

You were also asking about 'puppy dogs' following you about at clubs.
We haven't had much trouble with that, but lately we have been hanging
about with a reasonably large group when we go to such places. Next
time you go, why not organise a rec.nude micro-gathering? See some of
the faces behind these messages.

BTW - sorry to hear about the muscle-bound idiot you encountered.
I suppose one could be gracious and say that obviously his brain
has atrophied because of his overdeveloped muscles. Whatever, you
should point these sort of people out to the management, who will
eject them from the club. This is unacceptable behaviour, both in a
nudist club, and in general.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Glen Martin              Bell-Northern Research          Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Phone : (613) 763-7299   Fax: (613) 763-2626             Internet: glenm@bnr.ca
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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: wwheeler@news.cecer.army.mil (Wes Wheeler)
Subject: health clubs (sports in general) at nudist resorts
Summary: why no more organized sports facilities?
Keywords: weight-training health club
Reply-To: wwheeler@max.cecer.army.mil
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:05:19 GMT

In flipping through the ASA guide, it doesn't appear that there are many
sports facilities at clubs.  Particularly, we were disappointed at the 
lack of weight-training equipment at Paradise (see previous post).  In
reading about other clubs there doesn't appear to be much out there.  Sand
volleyball courts and outdoor tennis courts are about it.

Why no demand for a fitness center, including a weight room, indoor track,
court sports, etc.?

We also enjoy skiing (water and snowa, sailing, and scuba diving, but did
not see any organized club activities.

I'd a thought there would be a lot more interest from a group of people that
tend to be health conscious (I know, it's an over-generalization).  While on
that point, why so many cigarette smokers???

If I were to organize a landed club, would there be enough interest 
($ from users/guests) to support an indoor sports facility and a complete
indoor non-smoking policy?

Thanks!

-- 
"And when the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on 
the Dark Side of the Moon."

		- Mr. Floyd
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: jpurbric@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Purbrick)
Subject: Re: HELP for a friend. "indecent exposure" at Crane's Beach.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 06:28:50 GMT

But I'm not in Colorado I tell you! I haven't been there since 1975!


In article <1avke1INN9ou@gap.caltech.edu> brahm@cco.caltech.edu (David E. Brahm) writes:
>dwatts@ki.com (Dan Watts) writes:
>> [a friend] frequented Crane's Beach and being a nudist, enjoyed the
>> weather sans clothing. As I understand it, he was out of the way and
>> wasn't bothering anyone.  Appearently, a ranger [?] happened apon him and
>> gave him a ticket or some such.  He now has to appear in court.
>
>...you must check what law/ordinance is written on the ticket, and look
>up its severity in your local law library.  How you proceed depends a great
>deal upon the answer.


At a nudist barbecue back in June I happened to meet the attorney who defended
Nikki Craft against indecency charges--also in Massachusetts. (As Crane's 
Beach is, for those who don't know it).

I got him to talk about the legal situation in Massachusetts and he did say
that there is some reluctance to go for full-blown prosecution of nudists. The
problem, from the viewpoint of Judge Hathorne's (*) successors, is that the law 
here forbids "Lewd and lascivious behavior". It would be possible for a nudist
to claim that what (s)he was doing was neither lewd nor lascivious, that (s)he
had taken reasonable precautions not to be seen, and so forth. A couple of 
victories on that basis would leave the law essentially unenforceable. This 
exact thing happened in the case of "Lewd and lascivious cohabitation", the 
law that purported to stop unmarried people from living together.

So it's a matter of bluff--does the guy try to beat it, or take whatever
punishment is being offered, assuming it's fairly minor? A good lawyer would
probably make hints about the law being weakened if this man, who obviously
isn't a pervert, is prosecuted and wins, but the judge might go ahead anyway.
In fact, the judge may think the man obviously IS a pervert.

I never got the lawyer's name but could probably find it out if your friend
wants it. Be warned that he generally does real-estate work and not criminal
defense. But he might give some useful free advice.

I'm glad it's not me.

John Purbrick


* Judge Hathorne presided over the trials of the Salem "witches" in 1692.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: Tanning
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:44:03 GMT

tmd@austin.lockheed.com (Tom Davis) writes:
>the magazine of the Federation Francaise du Naturisme, the French naturist
>organization.  That group of naturists spends nearly as much magazine
>space on _natur_ism as nudism (subjects from how to sun healthily to
>Jacques Cousteau's current project to guarantee an environment to our
>descendents).
>
>It's a balance that we could more of in this country -- treating nudism
>not so much as an end in itself, but rather as one aspect of living in
>harmony with nature as a whole.

I agree.

I still get the cold shoulder from many so-called naturists
when I suggest that there is something more than just
hanging around (as opposed to "running around") nude.

I wonder what motivates these people?

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: aceptable actions?
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:35:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1atbuqINNh7k@network.ucsd.edu>, middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:

> Comments?  Am I being hypocritical?  

If you are, then so am I.  I feel the same way.

> Is it wrong for me to feel damaged
> by activities which I think are likely to lead to the closure of a nude
> beach?  

Tom, there's never a right or wrong to the way you feel! ;-)  More seriously,
I think you are right.  For whatever the reason, a "nude" beach is always
under more scrutiny than a "textile" one.  There's always somebody looking
for a reason to shut it down.  At least, in the US of A!

> Am I wrong to think that public masturbation on a nude beach will
> be used by opponents of nudity to close the beach?

I think we all know the answer to this one!

Terry
From: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Trip Report (was Re: Lighten up, gang)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 07:01:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu



You didnt tell us what "Mary" thought of the trip.  Did she have the
courage to go nude?




-- 
The Last thing we look at, is the color of skin.
The first thing we notice is the beauty within.
We shall be free.                                  -Garth Brooks
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: wix@eskimo.celestial.com (Dennis Wicks)
Subject: Re: Anonymity (was Re: Name
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:42:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.102347.5877@unixg.ubc.ca> arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.015325.23119@eskimo.celestial.com> wix@eskimo.celestial.com (Dennis Wicks) writes:
>>> I have 
>>> corresponded with a couple who would not post, even anonymously, because
>>> of the volume of crude and suggestive mail that they received!
>
>This didn't make any sense to me the first time I read it, and it still
>doesn't.  If a person is posting anonymously how can they receive "crude
>and suggestive mail"?  
The "anonymous posting services" are a two way street/pipe.
All they do is substitute a code number for your name & domain.
Any mail sent to that address goes to the APS and gets forwarded
to the poster.
>                       Perhaps you are talking about people not posting
>their names, but leaving their email address intact.  But I think the
>anonymity being discussed was an automatic relay point that would remove
>the email adress too, so it would not be possible to be harrassed by
>email.
I think what you are referring to is munging the From: and
Reply-to: fields so that mail bounces.  The Anonymous Posting
Services don't work that way.  If you "reply" to a post, the
poster gets it, even if you don't know who they are.  Hence,
large volumes of crude and suggestive e-mail to females, even when
they are using an APS.
>
>Once again, I'll say I don't think anonymous post are necessary or
>desirable. Anyone wanting to post anonymously should pick someone
>they trust and ask that person to post for them.
And just how would you suggest they find that person?  I certainly
don't know anyone that I could ask to do that.  Everyone I can 
think of has just as much at risk as I do!
> 
>(I will post messages for people who ask me to. Though, obviously, I'm
>not going to post anything that I think is unsuitable.)
Thanks for the offer, Bill, but no thanks!  a) I don't know you,
b) Your idea of what is suitable may not match mine, and c) for all
I know, you are a CIA agent collecting incriminating posts to be 
used against future presidential candidates!  :-)
>
>Bill.
From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Anonymity (was Re: Name
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:33:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena

In article <1992Oct13.142106.4895@access.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>wix@eskimo.celestial.com (Dennis Wicks) writes:
>>Services don't work that way.  If you "reply" to a post, the
>>poster gets it, even if you don't know who they are.  Hence,
>>large volumes of crude and suggestive e-mail to females, even when
>>they are using an APS.
>
>Then let's not implement it this way. 
>
>Prevent responses from finding their way back to
>the sender.
---
	Duh.  Responses shouldn't go to the sender?  Where should they be
routed?

	Large volumes of crude and suggestive email?  These poor fragile
little females can't hit the 'd' key?  Perhaps females should not be
allowed to post themselves, but only through a man .. just to protect
them from the ravages of other men, of course.

-wat-
--
 --- "If women really earned fifty-nine cents to the dollar for the same
 work as men, what business could compete effectively by hiring men at
 any level?"    -- Dr. Warren Farrell
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: desandgr@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID E SANDGREN)
Subject: Re: nude places in NC
Originator: desandgr@c00031-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: desandgr@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID E SANDGREN)
Organization: Central Carolina Naturists
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:20:55 GMT


In article <1992Oct15.223901.26110@hubcap.clemson.edu>,
jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
|>Any camps, resorts, lakes or any such thing in the Charlotte North
|>Carolina area?
|>
|>Jim
|>
Your best source of information here is the North Carolina Naturists (NCN)
at POB 33845 Charlotte, NC 28233 or phone 704-365-5825.
-- 
_______
David Sandgren,
Central Carolina Naturists (CCN) contact
desandgr@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: jill@daedalus.stanford.edu (Jill Donlin)
Subject: Re: Lake Lusty??
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Distribution: ba
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:35:48

In article <foo> loren@heyeokah.pixar.com (Loren Carpenter) writes:

	   A while back, someone posted a note about a "Lake Lusty" in
   the vicinity of the Stanford Golf Course.  I checked a few maps and
   no such lake was mentioned.  Also, no unnamed lake seemed to fit the
   description.  Where is it?

I should check my handy U.S. Geological Survey map to see if it's on there.
I posted the original article, about a month ago.  Unfortunately, it's getting
too cold to go out there much any more.  I also don't want to ruin the spot
for those of us in the know!  (The neighbors don't seem to mind seeing *me* in 
the altogether, but one never knows...)

Lake Lusty really exists -- the name is molded in the concrete of the dam
that makes the lake.  Send me email and I may tell you how to get there!


--
Jill Donlin                              Physics is Phun
jill@daedalus.stanford.edu               
                                         Get your dirty laws off of my body!
From: jeff@sousa.ltn.dec.com (jeff bell)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: aceptable actions?  (something worse than photographers
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:07:46 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton, MA

arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett) writes:
><...lots of good advice elided...>

>...  It seems
>that one day there was a guy walking around for several hours with an
>erection.  Even smimming in the cold ocean did nothing to wilt it.
>After the first couple of hours people started making sarcastic comments
>but the guy stayed...

If he was an older fellow, keep in mind that there is a
slim chance that he merely had a penile implant.

It's unlikely, but it could be.

-- 
-Jeff Bell                    "I guess that's why they call it code."
 jbell@danger.enet.dec.com

Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: Anonymity (was Re: Name
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:21:06 GMT

wix@eskimo.celestial.com (Dennis Wicks) writes:
>Services don't work that way.  If you "reply" to a post, the
>poster gets it, even if you don't know who they are.  Hence,
>large volumes of crude and suggestive e-mail to females, even when
>they are using an APS.

Then let's not implement it this way. 

Prevent responses from finding their way back to
the sender.

Next problem...?

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
From: schmitz@scd.hp.com (John Schmitz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
Subject: Re: how fast?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 00:56:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Santa Clara Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsceo.scd.hp.com
Keywords: speed

pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>        15 yrs. - Limited potential; swimmers starting at this age can still
> 				    get pretty fast, they can make high school
> 				    varsity level and some "miracle" cases
> 				    reach college level

Wasn't John Nabor (Naber?  - the backstroker) one of these types who
really didn't swim until high school and then proceeded to win both
backstrokes at four NCAA's?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
From: jason@research.canon.oz.au (Jason Stummer)
Subject: Re: Why Stomach Muscles?
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:45:15 GMT

sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield) writes:


>Indeed, my understanding has always been that abdominals are
>involved in all kinds of kicking. Consider that if you lie
>on your back and raise your legs, you will be working your
>abs even though your stomach isn't moving. That's because
>your legs don't move themselves, something has to move them.

>Steve Goldfield


Actually, a whole bunch of other muscles move your legs - the 
abs don't. They actually run from your ribs and xiphiod process
down to the pubis bone. So what they actually perform is movement
of the trunk and hip. Tilting your hips backwards (moving your
illiac crests or "hip bumps" towards the back) will work your
abs - I imagine this is where they help with the butterfly kick.
Leg raises simply provide a long lever for more resistance.


I think your abs would also help by providing a strong platform
so that power is more focused through your legs and not dispersed
through your upper body. Which leads me to a query not specifically
about swimming but well....
Perhaps someone out there could verify something I heard recently.
Apparently the belts that weight lifters use are not for kidney
support etc, but rather to give your abs something to push against
and hence creates more tension in your trunk which helps support
your back.

Cheers.
Jason Stummer.
-- 
Jason Stummer                                |"I believe that speed doesn't kill -
Canon Information Systems Research Australia |     it just hurts !" 
PO Box 313 NORTH RYDE NSW 2113               |  REEBOK commercial.
jason@research.canon.oz.au  Phone +61-2-805-2900,Fax +61-2-805-2929
From: osterber@husc8.harvard.edu (Richard Osterberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
Subject: Re: Little Thoughts (was Inspirational words)
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:18:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.osterber.719255908

Here's a few. I credit Jim Zotz - coach at Brandeis (I swam on a club that
practiced at his pool under a different coach - they were up on the wall).

By perseverance, the snail reached the ark.

Habits are first cobwebs, then cables.

-Rick
From: brucec@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Bruce Cheney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
Subject: Re: Why Stomach Muscles?
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:58:53 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <1992Oct9.183853.2280@bvc.edu> earhartgregm@bvc.edu writes:
>ALRIGHT, ENOUGH OF SWIMMERS SHAMPOO AND SWIMMERS' EAR!--New Question.
>
>Of what importance are abdominal muscles in swimming.  Every coach I have 
>worked/swam for has stressed the importance of them, but why?  For balance, 
>for flip turns, or fly?  
>  

I don't know about you, but my abdominal muscles keep my stomach from
dragging on the bottom. If I didn't have these muscles, my stomach would
be scraped raw and I would be very slow.

:)

I do know that in butterfly, good kicking (lots of butt movement up and
down with hips up near the water surface) starts with your stomach!

Bruce Cheney
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
From: jda@shell.com (Joel D. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Swimmers Shampoo & Goggles Misting
Reply-To: jda@shell.com (Joel D. Anderson)
Organization: Shell Development Co., Bellaire Research Center, Houston TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:07:21 GMT

Before workout I smear a little Ultra Swim on my goggles and rinse
thoroughly.  I have crystal clear, no-fog vision for the entire workout.

Joel D. Anderson
Shell Oil Company,  Houston, TX                             (713) 795-3541
jda@shell.com                                       H2ouston Swims Masters
From: kb3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kirsten Buttler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
Subject: Inspirational words
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:14:18 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Does anyone have a collection of swimming related inspirational poems or
whatever?  I coach a rec team where a lot of the younger kids are
thinking of quitting since some others are much better.  

Thanks in advance.

-Kirsten