From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: BETTER? 92 Camaro or 92 Iroc Daytona??
Date: 8 Nov 1992 02:44:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:

>In article 1dh1omINN7pq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>
>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>
>>>In article 1dcj7lINNpop@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>>
>>>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>>>
>>>>>In article 7824@zds-oem.zds.com, easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:
>>>>>>In article <1992Nov4.200129.28498@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CAMARO!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  And he better hurry as they seem to be dwindling on the car lots
>>>>>>around here, in anticipation of the '93's comming in January.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just say NO to FWD!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Problem is, if your not too fond of the F cars or the 'stang, the 
>>>>>>RWD choices are getting quite limited these days...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Torque Monger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>  ___  ___    Jeff Easton             easton@zds-oem.zds.com
>>>>>> (__  (__     Zenith Data Systems     j.easton@mi04.zds.com
>>>>>> ___) ___)    Saint Joseph, Mich.     easton@andrews.edu
>>>>>>Monte Carlo   Z-LS/20 - Choice of a quiet generation
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In that case, get a used PORSCHE 928 that was well maintained.
>>>>>I know it's European, BUT It gives good vibes! :) :)
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, I could walk into the local PONTIAC dealership out here
>>>>>and buy a new FORMULA cheap! Out here, people keep their old 
>>>>>cars FOREVER because rust is minimal here on Vancouver Island!
>>>>>No demand!
>>>>>
>>>>>My old one still has lotsa life left, so I'll pass for a few years.
>>>>>The one in the showroom is loaded but without Auto or Air. It even
>>>>                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>HUH??? a FORMULA w/o an auto?? never laid eyes on one..i was thinkin
>>>>that they were never actaully made...WOW..i'd love to drive this once.
>>>
>>>That's right! She's a rare one in the States, but most of the ones 
>>>that were imported to Canada came with a 5-Speed. My '87 also has the
>>>five speed with a stiff hydraulic clutch. The newer ones are easier
>>>on the left leg, but I'm used to mine. The original owner of my car also
>>>equipped it with(among other cool junk) disc brakes all around, 16" 
>>>wheels, 245/50/VR 16 Gatorbacks, 5.0 Litre TPI V8(the manual tranny was
>>>not available with the 5.7), Full analog instruments, top of the line 
>>>Delco stereo, T-tops, cruise, PWR locks and windows(no PWR mirror or
>>>seat), performance suspension, etc,etc,etc(!)
>>>
>>>Are you foaming at the mouth yet? :)
>>> 
>>>>>has the LEATHER INTERIOR!!
>>>>         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~another(???) definate negative...along w/ lack
>>>                             ^^^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>Oh, so you don't like shifting? What a colossal shame! :(
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>READ FURTHER!
>>ahem..i mean..read further.  you cut that in the wrong place!..
>>what it sez is "the facts that the car has no airconditioning AND a 
>>leather interior create negative brain vibes!..the stick is the only
>>damn thing i'd buy the car for!!..but i like a/c(i live in Texas,
>>or used to...:)..and do not care to pay for leather that i don't
>>really seem to like..thus..the leather interior is another
>>negative along with lack of a/c..you just edited wrong :)..hmm..you
>>haven't been reading the thread on why americans can't seem to get
>>away from automatics, have you?..didn't think so! try it..could clear
>>up a little of your confuzion on my stand on sticks! :-)
>
>OK, that clarifies it all for me. Leather is a personal taste thing and
>is IMHO cleaner than cloth(less dust buildup inside the car.) BTW, the guy's
>desperately trying to get rid of the machine, so he'd probably give a great
>deal on the car: LEATHER for FREE! You wouldn't have to pay for it.
> 
>Confusion gone WRT your stand on the"TO SHIFT OR NOT TO SHIFT"question.
                ^^^
what the heck does this one mean??most of these i've managed to figure
out..but never seen this one before!  maybe it was just the leather in
the car i drove..but i kept sliding...it was incredibly annoying..


>I knew as soon as I read one of your later posts yesterday. 
>I love to hate AirCon because the damn thing was always busted on my '74
>Monte Carlo and my '81 Buick. After frying two compressors due to leaks
>and other problems, those things are just not worth the trouble IMHO.
>It costs too much to fix and it doesn't get so hot here in South-Western 
>Canada like it did in Montreal, where I come from. 
>
>>>Shiftless cretins should be made to drive TRABANTS  
>>>with NISSAN auto trannys low on DEXRON for two months. :)
>>
>>aaaakkk..no way!!!!
>
>I was joking. :)
>>
>>>
>>>That'll fix 'em!!! :)
>>> 
>>>>of a/c..does anyone else not like leather??..my question is, would it
>>>>wear to you in a couple months?..the ones i've sat on were always too
>>>>slick..they didn't hold you..almost as bad as vynal..but if they would
>>>>hold you in a couple weeks, i'd take it! :-)
>>>>DREW
>>> 
>>>ACCKK! AirCon sucks away fuel and power! I just leave the T-tops open
>>>and GO FASTER!!! I don't have leather myself, but it smells good and
>>>is not a problem as the seats are true buckets that your ass gets
>>>planted in.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You'll unfortunately have to pay the Canadian price, though. :+(
>>>>>
>>>>>Torque Monger  
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>Torque Monger
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>Torque Monger
>
>

DREW
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