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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chargers win.. ho-hum..
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:02:46 GMT
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



TAMPA BAY 14  CHARGERS 29


One more win. God this is getting predictable. SD dominated TB and
a late TD put the game totally beyond reach for the Bucs.

Ronnie Harmon is arguably the *best* plan B acquisition by any team, ever.
This guy is elusive. They can't seem to tackle him. Everybody knows that
he is going to get the football, and yet they can't stop him. He has caught
around 50 passes this season, 26 of them went for 1st downs. He had 4 
catches for 43 yds, and rushed 4 times for 25 yds. Dazzling stats? no. But
they *all* came in crucial situations where a play had to be made, and he
made them.

SD scored on their 2nd drive on a beautiful pass from Humphries to 
RB Harmon (7-0). Harmon is way too quick for any LB on a pass route. The line
gave the QB enough time to find Harmon who had 3 steps on his cover man.

After SD pinned TB deep, DT/DE Chris Mims sacked Testaverde for a safety (9-0).
Nate Lewis returned the ensuing free kick 60 yds to the TB 18 yd line. They
ended up kicking a FG (12-0).

After a TB TD (12-7), SD kicked a FG to widen the lead to 15-7. Then
SD got the ball back with 1:25 left in the 1st half.
And executed a perfect 2 min drill. Harmon had catches of 7. 25 and 9 yds.
They got the ball to the 5 yd line with 25 secs and a TO 
in hand, and crossed up the defense (which was expecting 
pass) with a draw play to Harmon for the score (22-7).

After TB closed to 22-14, the SD defense took over. Using a basic 4-man rush,
they harried Testavere for 6 sacks. A late bootleg TD for 
Humphries made it the final score 29-14.

Highlights:

o Defense had 6 sacks, 3 by rookie DT/DE Chris Mims. Mims, who started 
  slowly with no tackles in 3 games, now has 8 sacks in the last 8 games.

o Butts ran for 104 yds.

o Humphries had an off-day, and they still won. Usually, SD only stays in the
  game if the QB has a good day.

o Only ONE penalty (5 yds) against SD in the whole game.

o O-Line didn't allow a single sack.


Next week, Sunday Night on ESPN vs. the hated LA Raiders. Finally, a grudge
game that means soemthing in the ranking.


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| Prashanth                    |                      |
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: NFC East loses!
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:04:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.042424.111667@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR) writes:
>From: mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR)
>Subject: NFC East loses!
>Date: 16 Nov 92 04:24:24 GMT
>I am not a woofer but after reading all those moronic posts by NFC East
>woofers for so long how could I let this one go.
>
>All teams in NFC East lost today!

IT WAS A SETUP!   (oooh damn, no matter how I try and rationalize it, I CANT)
I think this falls under the catagory of "Any team can beat any other team 
on any given day.

Well I watched all the OTHER NFC East games with interest to see where it 
would place the Giants if they won/lost.
Redskins went down, then the Eagles, then Dallas (then ooh well who cares 
about the Cards :-) )

So I was all happy thinking if the Jints could pull this one out, we'd be 
tie with Eagles and Skins.  Yeah, I was struttin', I was mouthin' off at 
the local club!  Then it struck me!  Someone (probably from this list) PUT A 
CURSE on the NFC East!  

Then I said NAAAAAAAAAAAAA, Let me tune into the Saints/9er game.  Since 
the 9ers are the NFC East spoiler during the playoffs, I figured if the 
9ers won then it was a sign from the football gods that it was going to be a 
NFC East D-Day.  

I was cheering for the Saints, "CHAAAAAA-CHINNNNNNNNG, 
SCORE! again for the Saints (Thank you J.J.C.).  It was in the 4th quarter 
that I started on the tequilla shots, thats when the trouble started.

By the time the Giants came on, I knew it was gonna be a 
S   L  O   W       D   E   A   T  H    

What happened to the Giants secondary???  
All I can say is "Ouch"

       


I knew then the Giants 
would lose.  There was just too much talk about the NFC East having the best 
teams...





>
>This doesn't happen everyday. So I am relishing this one chance of a big WOOF!
>(Every dog has his day!)
>
>As a bonus, two of the NFC East teams lost to AFC West teams. WOOF WOOF!
>
>Kassu
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From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: LT
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:29:00 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <00963729.84F90EE0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
> Hi there
> There have been indications/rumors that LT may be back
> if Bill comes back to coach NYG. IMHO it would be a bad move
> for both himself and the Giants . I think that he has had
> a great career and he should not subject himself to
> more serious injuries when he carved a niche for himself
> already . Also the NY Giants definitely have to rebuild
> if they want to WIN THE SB in a few years and not just 
> be content with a playoff berth now. It will be something
> like the Lakers (though not exactly) and the Bears now.
> You have to make some hard decisions (hard b'coz these
> guys brought you success in the past) and prepare a young
> team. Also Bill has had some heart problems and I dunno
> how will take the stress of a NFL season.
> But I think Bill and Lawrence are shrewd enuff to make
> the right decision (Right according to them)
> 
> If LT doesn't come back :
> "See ya LT " You had a great career.
> Bye ,
> 
>        *********************************
>        *	N.Ramasubramanian      *    	    
>        *********************************

	Actually, from LT's standpoint I can almost guaranteee that he'll be
back for one more season.  LT left the NFL on his back.  Now, for some players
it would be enough to have carved a niche for yourself as the greatest LB of
your time, and arguably of ALL time.  Not for LT, though.  He's a very proud
man, and isn't likely to take well to leaving in such a manner.  If he comes
back, it's only so he can leave as he saw himself leaving, as a strong and
dominating football player, not as a casualty of the football war.
	I myself would like if the last image I have of LT, is one of him
dashing aroung linemen, and not of him being carted off the field.  Certainly
you don't want to be permanently injured, but he, and all football players have
been dealing with that danger since they got involved with football.  
	Now, I'm not saying that he SHOULD come back, but just that, as I see
it, he WILL.
	-Skins fan who would like to see LT pull the same job on Ryp that he
did on Joey T.  (Ok, maybe I wouldn't, but only because I don't like seeing
anyone hurt.)
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Why was 1984 such an amazing year?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 02:06:08 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
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In article <722036999snx@smok.demon.co.uk>,
richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Richard Clyne) writes:
>
>In article <g0gqj__@lynx.unm.edu> follick@jemez.eece.unm.edu writes:
>
>>
>>In article <1992Nov13.071407.10610@a.cs.okstate.edu> cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu> (COOPER ROBERT BRYA) writes:
(deleted)
>>>
>>>
>>a number of rules changes were made to open up the game, and especially
>>favored passing offenses. As teams caught on, passing increased rapidly.
>>In the early eighties 5 TD's and 380 yds. passing was just another game for
>>quarterbacks in high powered passing offenses like Dan Fouts, Kenny Anderson
>>and Dan Marino among others. Defense fell behind. (Do you remember
>>Air Coryell? how about 48-42 games?) In 1985 the Chicago Bears came up
>>with a way to stop this sort of offense. Stack the line and hit the
>>quarterback. frequently.
>
>Before the 1985 Season the NFL came up with ways to stop the offense. They
>changed lots of rules to make it easier to defend against the pass. This then
>made the 1985 Bears Defense possible. If they had played like that in 1984,
>the Bears would have given up lots of penalties, and not been so dominating.
>Mind you they would still have been a powerful team.
>
Interesting stuff.  I think Buddy Ryan realized ( and Parcells) that
the offense was going to get their points anyway.  They figured if
they attack on defense, gamble a lot, yes they'd get burned here and
there, but they'd also give their offense the ball in good field
position a lot of times in the game due to sacks, fumbles, INTs.

Good thought food, guys.

Mike
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BILLS WIN SUPERBOWL!
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:12:50 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

Not.  I can't wait to see what kind of stupid walk Thomas uses to enter
the field this year.  Maybe he will lose his shoes or shoulder pads this
year just to make it interesting.  Now that Norwood is gone who will be the
Buffalo goat?
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:14:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: STEELERS trivia - corrected answers corrected again
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro


You forgot the most important question:

o Who was paid off to blow the call on the field, allowing the Steelers
  to win a game they should have lost?

A: The zebras.  Tatum never touched the ball.  Therefore the catch by
   Finko was illegal because it had already bounced off of Pukewa.
From: rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: They might be faking it...
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:19:05 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
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In article <722036491snx@smok.demon.co.uk> richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Richard Clyne) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov9.174919.20712@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu writes:
>
>>game penalty only gives the punter a better shot at dropping the ball inside
>>the 20. 
>
>Why does the defensive team NEVER turn down the delay of game (which is an
>optional penalty) if the offense deliberatly go for it?

Because you can accept the penalty but refuse the yardage part
of it, which is what teams do.



Ray    GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: metv@triton.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: L.A. Raiders!!!!!!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:44:18 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <david_w.1@aci_1.aci.ns.ca> david_w@aci_1.aci.ns.ca (DAVE WALSH) writes:
>After reading through all of the topics on pro football, I failed to see 
>anything on the GLORIOUS RAIDERS.  Clearly, they epitomize the very meaning 
>of pro football.  Doesn't anybody care enough to post something about the 
>Raiders.  
>
>   ATTENTION: Calling All Raider Fans!!!!  Show your commitment to excellence
>   and POST SOMETHING TODAY.
>
>YOURS RAIDERLY
>DAVE W.

I hear you Man !  But I don't get to see them on TV unless they play against
the Broncos or Cowboys (like this weekend) or on Sunday and Monday nights. 
I would love to see posting about the RAIDERS on the network.  

GO RAIDERS!!! GO SKINS!!!
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Best/Worst; Walker Trade Results
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:24:19 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

[stuff deleted]
>For Dallas: (directly/indirectly)
>DB Issiac Holt
>RB Emmitt Smith
>DT Russell Maryland
>DB Kevin Smith
>DB Darren Woodson
>DB Clayton Holmes
>T James Brown
>G-C Tom Myslinski (now wth Washington, 11/12/92)
>DB Greg Briggs
>TE Fallon Wacasey (somewhere else?)
>DB Chris Hall
[stuff deleted]

Food for thought:

  If the players are successful in their fight for more free agency [or
  whatever it is of which Reggie White is one of the leaders], will Dallas be
  able to keep this talented squad in tack?




-- 

------------------------
|   Gail A. Fullman    |
|   Manager - ADMO     |
|   Ext. 83113         |
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Which QB starting for Lions this week?
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:39:55 GMT

In article <92326.163808343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>it!!)  Ware is the least used Quarterback who was drafted from that year
>(89??) and hasn't thrown a ball in 2 years in a regular season game.  What
>an absolute WASTE of talent.  Sound like any other lion's quarterback???
>
>Chuck Long road the bench for a couple of years behind Danielson and Hipple
>before throwing about 5 regular season passes,  and then being let go!  Now
>he's back on IR (YEAH RIGHT!!) still wasting away behind someone else.

Ware has played quite a bit less than Long did early in his
career.  

Games/passes by year:

	Long	Ware
1st	3/40	4/30
2nd	12/416	1/0
3rd	7/141	0?/0? (so far...)
4th	1/5
5th	4/5

I think you somehow forgot about Long's 2nd and 3rd years, where
he played quite a bit.  Ware played very little his second year,
and will probably play very little this year.

An absolute waste of talent?  Ware's behind two decent QBs, and
has yet to show that he can play.  It's hard to say if any
talent's being wasted there.
-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey)
Subject: Re: It's only the Packers
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:28:13 CST

"only" the Packers??!! Maybe none of you have realized it but the Packers have
vastly improved the last two games.  I would not be at all surprised to see the
Pack finish up at 8-8, not bad considering Favre is just a second year man.
Not to mention the fact that it's Holmgrems(or however you spell it) first year
as head coach.  "Only" the Packers??!!  I'm not surprised at all over their win
this Sunday, after all, it was ONLY the Eagles.
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers/Rams
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:42:12 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov23.015411.11074@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:

(burp)
>
>The Rams came out and tried to pick on Eric Davis deep. All three attempts
>failed, although one of them resulted in a chintzy "illegal contact" call
>against Davis. All in all the 49ers secondary played a pretty good game,
>although I don't know how much of that had to do with their performance
>as opposed to Everett's lousy performance. The only play on which the

The ball Davis tipped away wasn't a great pass, but I give Davis a
lot of credit on that play.

>secondary was exposed was on the TD pass to Ellard, on which Hall played
>like a rookie (well, he *IS* a rookie!).

That about sums it up for me too.  Hall anticipated more pressure on
Everett and played the 'out' pattern, that's how he got juked.

>
>One question : there was a play in the second half on which Young was
>hit late after he threw a pass, and a flag was thrown. The flag was later
>picked up, and the explanation from the official was "the quarterback was
>a runner, so there is no penalty" (Young had scrambled out of the pocket,
>and was hit when he was near the sidelines). I guess I'm not surprised that
>there is such a rule, but I'm surprised that I have not seen this scenario
>come up more often. It certainly seems to be a situation that is ripe
>for controversy. What's the deal here?

Young fumbled a handoff to Watters that bounced back to him.  Once
the QB let's go of the ball, he is no longer a QB and is not
protected by the rule.  The same would be true on one of those NY
Giants old-standbys where Simms hands off, then gets a lateral back.

The Chron this morning labelled Watters as 'trash-talking'.  It
seemed in the game that the Rams secondary was doing the talking
after the play and Watters walked back to the huddle ignoring it.
Did I miss something?  Was Watters popping off before the game?

Mike
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Playoffs prediction
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:03:49 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Okay, okay so it's a little late in the season for prediction but hey
I'm bored.  Although I'm a staunch NFC supporter at heart, I gotta
admit I really believe the AFC is due.  Here goes:

NFC Division champs: Dallas, SF, Minn.
Wild Cards: Redskins, Eagles, Saints.

NFC Champ: Dallas

AFC Division champs: Pitt., KC, Miami
Wild Cards: Buffalo, Denver, Houston

AFC Champs: Miami (maybe Buffalo... tough call).

SuperBowl winner: Miami (or Buffalo). Okay so I'm a little non-commital but
I gotta wonder if (despite the fact that Buffalo is playing like wildfire)
they don't slump back to what happened in October.

satish nair
go giants (in 1994)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester)
Subject: Re: 49ers whip Dallas in NFC Championship.
Organization: Amgen
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 03:55:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.211912.28814@netcom.com>, xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
> 
> In <1992Nov13.163500.14650@hal.com> ables@hal.com (King Ables) writes:
> >I'd love to see the Cowboys play the 49ers because I'd like to
> >get 'em back for last time!  If it is the Cowboys and 49ers, I
> >don't think that young will enter into it.  The Cowboys are young
> >but not inexperienced.
> 
> Well, young may not enter into it, but, barring injury, Young certainly
> would.  :-)
> 
> (Sorry, couldn't resist)  :-)
> 

That was a real Bono-head comment...:|

> GO NINERS!
> -- 
> Chris Waters    | the insane don't | "Don't you boys know NICE songs?"
> xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers |                 -- Joe's mama
> 

Chris S.

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From: RLAG10@email.sps.mot.com (Gary Gavlick)
Subject: Re: Willie Soviet Drewery
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Motorola SPS, Analog Automotive
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:50:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.132315.2237@cnsvax.uwec.edu>,
rantalmj@cnsvax.uwec.edu wrote:
> 
> Ok, at this risk of sounding stupid, can anyone explain this Bermanism?
> 
> Willie Soviet Drewery
> 
> I just don't get it.
> ___________________________

  I think it is a reference to a routine Gilda Radner (spelling?) used to
do on Saturday Night Life (70's version).  Gilda played a TV commentator
who would mis-hear a current event and then rant and rave about it for 5
minutes.  Chevy Chase would then correct her error and she would end the
skit with "Oh, never mind."  
  In one skit the event was the plight of Jews in the Soviet Union or
Soviet Jewery which she "mis-heard" as Soviet Jewelry ("What's all this
fuss about Soviet Jewelry ?").  The Bermanism is a continuation of the skit
-- Soviet Jewery to Soviet Jewelry to Soviet Drewery.

Gary Gavlick
Motorola, Semiconductor - Tempe, Arizona
"The opinions and views expressed here are solely my own and do not
necessarily represent those of Motorola."
From: Geis@spacvax.rice.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ernest Givins
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:26:24 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Rice University

In article <By6nME.9t0@encore.com>, dtodd@wizard.encore.com (Donald Todd)
wrote:
> 
> Ernest Givins went down with an ankle injury in this Sunday's game with
> "the Fish".  If you have any info regarding the status of his injury
> I would appreciate hearing it.  My newspaper said nothing...
> 
> This morning's paper said x-rays were negative, and he would probably be
able to play Thursday.

Paul Geis @spacvax.rice.edu
From: 5checki_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: JETS FUCKING AWFUL
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:42:59 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

I cannot believe how God Awful the New York Jets are.  They just played so 
shitty yesterday that there are no answers.  I've just about conceded this 
season, as they must take a look at who will fill their future positions. Give 
Coslet a chance- The Jets are just plain awful.  Why not just get a decent 
defensive lineman with one of their top picks.  If they get line play, there 
may be some hope.  However, with a schedule full of teams heading to the 
playoffs, I cannot envision them doing any better than 4-12.  As for Scott 
Zolak, he is a mother fucking punk whom I hope dies in an auto accident.  Any 
Fucking Knucklehead can hand off the ball.  The Patriots were running the ball, 
and Lampley and Rashad were making this asshole out to be the second coming of 
Jesus Christ.  Wait til Zolak plays a real team- He'll Die!!!!!!!!!

		BILLS      SUCK		DOLPHINS SUCK
		COLTS   SUCK         	PATRIOTS SUCK


			WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR ASSHOLES- WE'LL FUCK YOU UP
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From: keithg@boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson)
Subject: Re: Eagles starting quarterback
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:43:40 GMT
Organization: work
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

"Calvin D. Swartzentruber" (cs6t+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know who will be starting as quarterback for the Eagles on
: Sunday against the Giants?  God, I hope that its not Randall.  If it is,
: they are surely doomed.
: 
: Hobbes
: 
: A loyal Eagle in Pittsburgh
: 

	What is Randall's record against the Giants? Pretty good, isn't
	it? Just curious.

	-keith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: QB Ratings, How do you figure?
From: sport@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:51:56 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

I know this has asked many times, but I must ask again.

How does the NFL figure its QB ratings?  i know there is a formula, but I don't
know what it is.  Can someone E-mail me how to figure it out?

Thanks in advance,

Mike
sport@vax1.mankato.msus.edu

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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: MNF..... Saints win.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:53:43 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network



The Sanits beat the Redskins..20-3

S.H