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From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Brenda
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:05:14 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I would just like to mention something to you newsgroupers that are so down
on Brenda. So what if her clothes aren't the greatest. Maybe she has a whiny voice.
ice. But the main point is, mute your set, cover the clothes, and look at the
face. Brenda is pretty. Brenda is almost beautiful. The clothes, as I said,
are capital-U UGLY, but her face is good. Case closed. Just my comments. 
	Thanks, Ann.

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: stile@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Howard Wilson)
Subject: Re: Brenda
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 13:13:55 GMT

Actually...after having the multi-level eyes thing pointed out to me,
I can't look at Brenda without puking.  Almost beautiful is a great
overstatement in my book.
 
Now...Donna.  She's cute.  Kelly..SHE'S a roaring hot babe.
 
Howard Wilson II

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From: og9@sdcc1.ucsd.edu (Greg Llacer, Grad Studies & Research)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: California University, etc.
Keywords: school snobs
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:13:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego Campus
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



>>    [ and systematically eliminates Berkeley, UCLA, and USC...]
>>
>>Oh my God!  It must be Loyola Marymount!

Oh, c'mon, you bunch of snobs.  The answer is obvious:

California (State) University NORTHRIDGE

It's CLOSE to Beverly Hills
It's CHEAP

But would any of those twerps actually venture anywhere north of Mulholland?

(I don't watch this show--I'm a Melrose Place-r, but the argument was just
contentious enough that I felt I *had* to jump in.)

Cheers!



Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: chrism@fraser.sfu.ca (Chris J. McKee)
Subject: Kelly
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:02:41 GMT

Yum, Yum...I wouldn't mind a piece of her!  


Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: kulju@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Richard Helmut Kulju)
Subject: Re: Beverly Hills 90210
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:59:28 GMT

In article <1hljd3INNirg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:
>
>I think that the show is really unrealistic!  I don't like it, and I don't
>understand why it is so popular.  I wouldn't be surprised if it went off the air.

Why does a show have to be realistic? I detest the above arguement, yet I seem
to always hear it.  If you wanted to see "realistic" why don't you go find some
documentary to watch.  Ah!!! but alas, many still debate the "realism" of 
documentaries. (Guess your out of luck.)

As for the show's departure from the airways, anyone knows that no show has a
finite lifespan since one can only form plots around a particular subject for 
so long.


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: mikec@hfglobe.intel.com (Mike Coleman)
Subject: Re: the Heights: RIP
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:06:57 GMT

st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>To the (stupid) fan of "The Heights":
>	Thank God, that stupid show was cancelled. It was dumb from the start
>and from what I can see, the only people who miss it are the top 40 radio 
>DJ's with nothing new to play.......Of course, there's always Whitney Houston!

Gee, I assume he means me (since I asked the question). I didn't realize
asking the status of a show was a symbol of my intellectual prowess. Better
be carefull what questions I ask, otherwise the IQ police will be jumping
down my throat.

Mike


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From: bbs.maddox@tsoft.net (Otto Maddox)
Subject: What is realistic?
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:27:36 GMT

I guess the only thing worth watching in television these days accoriding 
to some people is COPS.  If it isn't realistic then it isn't worth 
watching.  

That rules out a lot of things.  Actually COPS is real, not realistic so 
in the eyes of some people it still isn't realistic and I guess they 
wouldn't even watch that.


[] Charles Durand [] +1 415 969 1634
Internet: bbs.maddox@tsoft.net
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Christmas
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 02:53:14 GMT

warren-matthew@cs.yale.edu (Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren) writes:

>Hi.

>Oh, Puh-LEEZE.  Dylan reconciling with his father?  Come ON, give
>me the bus going right through the truck any time.  I mean, really.

Well, you win some, you lose some, but read on...

>And also, what was up with Dylan and Brenda being all happy-happy?
>Last time I noticed (before exams, I admit) they were still sans
>involvement while Dylan pondered his big "choice."   What's up with
>that?

For those who don't know, tonight's episode (Friday 25 Dec) was the second
part to the episode shown Wednesday (to answer the person who was wondering
when it would conclude), and is a rerun from last December. That's why Dylan
and Brenda are "all happy-happy" and Mel and Jackie aren't married yet and
Emily showed up and etc...

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu

>Merry Christmas,

>Matt

>-- 
>Matthew S. "Opie" Warren     warren-matthew@yale.edu
>"It wouldn't have been anything, even if it were gonna be a thing."
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt)
Subject: Re: California University, etc.
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:01:07 GMT

In article <8190@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.052238.6366@leland.Stanford.EDU> ridenour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lynn Ridenour) writes:
>
>    [ and systematically eliminates Berkeley, UCLA, and USC...]
>
>Oh my God!  It must be Loyola Marymount!
>
>Well, maybe not.  I still think it's Berkeley.  When someone OUTSIDE
>California says "Cal", that's who they're talking about.  And I don't
>think the exact geography is all that important.  I mean, if you believe
>the newspapers, 75% of the people in this country have only a vague idea
>where California is, much less the various colleges within it.
>
>California University, Univ. of California -- they're all the same
>thing, right?  (No offense to Berkeley types.)

Maybe U Cal/Riverside....

Maybe the producers have this desire to have a show about Brandon/Brenda
et al., and so they can't have a real University name -- after all, if
anything *bad* happened they might be sued or something -- same reason
they have West Beverly (which doesn't exist) so that the real BHHigh
can't complain when bad things happen.  And the mentions of UCLA, USC,
etc., were just done by writers not in on the master-plan....

(I have seen this master plan -- it ends with the airing in 2028 of the
new Spelling production, "Blue House," which will, reportedly,
focus on Brandon and Andrea's trials and tribulations as president and
vice president of a major North American country, speculatively to be
called "The American United States," just to keep us guessing.)  :-)

Gary
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: sweide@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Weide)
Subject: Re: The Trash Truck
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:31:49 GMT

In article <1h9gh0INNijk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz820@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher M. Paulus) writes:
>
>I watched the show on 12-16 by myself, and I wasn't the least bit surprised 
>that they would allow the truck to avoid hitting the bus.  I just had that 
>feeling.
>
>I'm blind, and since I watched the show myself, could someone explain how the 
>truck and bus missed each other?  I'm reading on this group that the truck went 
>through the bus?  Yeah, right!

Yeah, right is it.  It did go straight through the bus as people say.  Of 
course they used the worst possible way to make it happen.

Steve
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (C.J.K.)
Subject: Re: Beverly Hills 90210
Followup-To: alt.flame
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: Not very organized
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:00:18 GMT

jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:

>why dont you get a life you loser!!!!!!!
>alf was the best show of all time and 90210 sucks!!!!
>you are a loser

I guess now that we are shown the way, all 90210 watchers can get
lives...
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: olshen@biostat.washington.edu (Adam Olshen)
Subject: Re: California University
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:30:17 GMT

 California University is not UC Berkeley, nor is it UCLA.  Berkeley is
ruled out because CU is supposed to be somewhere close to BH.  It's
also probably not UCLA because they would have simply used the name
UCLA instead of saying "California University".  I think this because
they have mentioned UCLA before (Rick is majoring in Business Economics
there).

Rochelle   
.
.
From: jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: How do we redeem Shannon?
Date: 28 Dec 1992 01:07:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I agree with Phoebe.  I don't mind Brenda, either, and I think that Kelly is the
one to blame.  Personally, I don't really like Donna, David, Steve, or Kelly. 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: mgvdmeer@cs.vu.nl (Marcel G. van der Meer)
Subject: Realism
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:35:03 GMT

Yo!

For all those realism freaks: 
start a newsgroup called "alt.tv.cnn" or something :)

Marcel

Looking at Jennie Garth beats realism any day :)
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: 90210 on Final examps (was: Sociology 90210)
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:40:36 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <8156@news.duke.edu>, rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
> Just thought I'd let everyone know 90210 made it into my final.

It made it into my Constitutional Law final, too.  Short summary is that 
Congress passed a law against skateboard-jacking, and required that every 
community with a population of greater than 25,000 modify their city charter 
to require reporting any skateboard theft to the FBI.  A young man named 
Perry Luke is convicted in Beverly Hills of a violating the law.

Luke seeks to have the law ruled unconstitutional; Beverly Hills does too 
(they don't like the reporting requirements).  What constitutional grounds 
exist for PL and BH to attack the statute?

(This is a short summary; on the test, the question took up a single-spaced 
page and a half, and was allotted 90 minutes for answering; it required an 
analysis of the Constitution's Commerce Clause, governmental immunity under 
the 10th Amendment, a bicameral legislative veto in violation of the 
Presentment Clause, and the Article III Cases and Controversy clause.  And 
this followed another 90-minute question on a state's right to regulate the 
importation of grain which caused sheep to explode.)

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
From: Kevin_Fong@rand.org (Kevin Fong)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: California University, etc.
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:30:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210

My take on the situation (for those who aren't sick of it):
I think California University is supposed to be a *fictionalized
representation* of UCLA, just like West Beverly High is a fictionalized
representation of Beverly Hills H.S.

1) Why UCLA? Aside from the similarity of name, the strongest reason is
that UCLA is right next to Beverly Hills. It's less than a mile outside
90210, and about two miles from the real Beverly Hills H.S. A lot of
Beverly Hills H.S. students do end up going to UCLA and living at home.
While I'll admit the Berkeley campus *is* universally known as
"California," I suspect that if it ever comes up, the name of the fictional
campus will be California University at Los Angeles, or Beverly Hills, or
whatever.

2) Why change the name? To give the writers more freedom. They don't have
to worry about offending UCLA if they depict CU's faculty as idiots. They
can create buildings, events, and problems that don't exist, and they can
shoot at other campuses and call it CU. Sure, they referred to UCLA in
previous episodes, but that was just a passing reference. If much of the
gang is going to CU next season, they'll obviously spend more time
depicting the school.

So while I don't think CU is SUPPOSED TO BE any specific university, I
think it's going to be loosely based on UCLA, just as West Beverly is
loosely based on the real Beverly Hills High (which is already on the
western edge of Beverly Hills, btw).

-------
Kevin Fong          Kevin_Fong@rand.org
Los Angeles, CA
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Beverly Hills 90210
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:58:27 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Jonathan Sheir (jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
 
: I think that the show is really unrealistic!  

So? It isn't a nature documentary. Nothing else on TV is realistic.
Why is this the exception?

: I don't like it, and I don't understand why it is so popular.  

More people like it than don't, I guess, and it is raking in money
for FOX.

: I wouldn't be surprised if it went off the air.

I would, since it's one of FOXs strongest shows, and all the other
networks are trying to immitate it. This thing is making them some
serious money in merchandising, ratings, and free publicity from
Shannon D's fights. Can't top that! :)

Scott
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: ac999239@umbc8.umbc.edu (ac999239)
Subject: Re: The Trash Truck
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:49:13 GMT

>> I watched the show on 12-16 by myself, and I wasn't the least bit surprised 
>> that they would allow the truck to avoid hitting the bus.  I just had that 
>> feeling.
>>
>> I'm blind, and since I watched the show myself, could someone explain how
>> the truck and bus missed each other?  I'm reading on this group that the
>> truck went through the bus?  Yeah, right!

> I am really curious how a blind person can watch T.V.  I don't mean to make
> fun but it is not something I can imagine.  Do you actually watch it or do
> you just listen like it was a radio play?

Because someone can be LEGALLY blind, yet still have partial sight via VERY
thick glasses. I assume he has thick glasses and sits close to the TV. Might
also explain why he missed that glimpse of the truck going through the bus.

I'm not making fun of the blind...I just know these things because I have known
a few people who were legally blind, but had very minicule sight in one or
both of their eyes.
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Beverly Hills 90210
Date: 28 Dec 92 04:35:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:

>I think that the show is really unrealistic!  I don't like it, and I don't
>understand why it is so popular.  I wouldn't be surprised if it went off the air.

Reality is not the principal item the average television viewer seeks in
their viewing, they are interested in entertainment.

I will grant you there are many unrealistic elements to BH90210, but the
same can be found in numerous programs both similar to it and different 
from it.

A programs popularity is born out of a dozen or more factors, some
being the stars of the show, the time of the year it debuts, the
writing, subject matter, etc., etc., etc.

BH90210 was not expected to survive its first 13 episodes, but it
developed a following and succeeded in achieving strong ratings.  It
was a matter of timing, and their timing was good.

As for going off the air, I think the show has at least another year or
two left in it, FOX seems to be behind it, and I have heard nothing from
any of the stars which indicates they have become to big to stay with the
program any longer.  It is usually attitudes such as that which begins to
kill or kills a program.

It is all a matter of likes and dislikes, I catch the show or tape it
when I have a chance and enjoy it most times, the old advice holds here
as it would anywhere else, if you do not like the program, utilize either
the on/off switch or the channel changer.




-- 
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--------------------------------------------------
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From: jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Beverly Hills 90210
Date: 28 Dec 1992 00:57:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I think that the show is really unrealistic!  I don't like it, and I don't
understand why it is so popular.  I wouldn't be surprised if it went off the air.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: dovebar@wam.umd.edu (Misanthrope at Large)
Subject: Re: the Heights: RIP
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:05:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.195857.28270@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.183910.14729@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>	And for the last time, NO, "The Heights" has not been
>cancelled...to the best of my knowledge.  This comes directly from the
>local Fox affiliate's Programming Director.  I called her up and she
>assured me that the show was not cancelled but put on hiatus
>"indefinitely."  If this has changed and someone has official proof, then
>please correct me.  I called them about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Ummmm...isn't "put on hiatus 'indefinitely'" usually just euphemistic
networkspeak for "cancelled"?
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (C.J.K.)
Subject: Re: Beverly Hills 90210
Reply-To: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com
Organization: Not very organized
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:35:06 GMT

jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:

>I think that the show is really unrealistic!  I don't like it, and I don't
>understand why it is so popular.  I wouldn't be surprised if it went off the air.

You can say that again.  We need more realistic shows like the following
(now these reflect everyday life as I see it):
	Alf, I Dream of Jeannie, Dinosaurs, Six Million Dollar Man, Shazaam,
	Ghost Dad, Herman's Head, ...
Perhaps the writers of 90210 need to get some tips from these other
shows to project realism.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: ridenour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lynn Ridenour)
Subject: Re: California University, etc.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 02:30:56 GMT

In article <8190@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.052238.6366@leland.Stanford.EDU> ridenour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lynn Ridenour) writes:
>
>    [ and systematically eliminates Berkeley, UCLA, and USC...]
>
>Oh my God!  It must be Loyola Marymount!
>
>Well, maybe not.  I still think it's Berkeley.  When someone OUTSIDE
>California says "Cal", that's who they're talking about.  And I don't
>think the exact geography is all that important.  I mean, if you believe
>the newspapers, 75% of the people in this country have only a vague idea
>where California is, much less the various colleges within it.
>
>California University, Univ. of California -- they're all the same
>thing, right?  (No offense to Berkeley types.)
>
>- Rob Mac K
>
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Maybe you are right.  So what's it like to go to school in
Chapel Hill?  ;)

- Bob

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From: ridenour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lynn Ridenour)
Subject: Re: California University, etc.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:30:34 GMT

Not to follow my own post or anything, but...

>
>In the Looking for Colleges/Kelly in the Shower episode,
>Brandon says California University is "cheap and right here
>in L.A."  Therefore, CU is not Berkeley.
>
>In nearly every episode, Steve talks about how he has to go
>to USC.  Therefore, CU can't be a euphemism for USC.
>

I have been reminded that USC, while being "right here in
L.A.," is NOT "cheap."  Another good reason why CU isn't USC.

- Bob
From: bz820@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher M. Paulus)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: The Trash Truck
Date: 23 Dec 1992 10:54:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I watched the show on 12-16 by myself, and I wasn't the least bit surprised 
that they would allow the truck to avoid hitting the bus.  I just had that 
feeling.

I'm blind, and since I watched the show myself, could someone explain how the 
truck and bus missed each other?  I'm reading on this group that the truck went 
through the bus?  Yeah, right!

Thanks,

Chris
-- 
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Baltimore, MD
bz820@cleveland.freenet.edu
CompuServe:  71541,1617
From: avhaecke@ens-lyon.fr (Alexandre Van-Haecke)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: On the Air/Alphabet
Date: 3 Jan 93 11:38:12 GMT
Reply-To: avhaecke@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon

bonne annee 1993
From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Subject: Re: On the Air/Alphabet
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 16:50:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.190546.1970@msus1.msus.edu> zappa@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>How many episodes of "On the Air" aired.  Here in Philadelphia, I only
>got two.  Did number three air?  Does anyone know when the unaired
>episodes will be released on video tape?  I'm also looking for a copy
>of "Alphabet," a short Lynch made as a student.  I saw it several years
>ago, but haven't been able to find it on video.

3 episodes aired in Boston, and apparently 7 were completed.  No
news from me on the release date, but you can probably find
Alphabet (sold on 1 tape with Grandmother (?) ) from Mondo
Video, 154 Big Spring Cir., Cookeville, TN 38501 
(probably $20).

Rocky Giovinazzo


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