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From: svaradar@sangeet.intel.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Help !!  Larynx trouble !
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:14:55 GMT
Reply-To: svaradar@sangeet.intel.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTeL Santa Clara Microcomputer Division


I hope someone out there can help with this problem.

I am a singer and about three weeks ago I strained my
voice by singing too much in a short period of time.

Soon afterwards, my voice started to sound unusually
deep and dry and felt strained. I also felt a dry
sensation in the throat which is now gone. 

I went to see an ENT about ten days ago, and he
all he could see was some redness near my 
vocal cords.  All he said was "don't sing
and it should be ok".

For the most part, I have avoided singing for the
last three weeks , and for the past three days I
have stopped talking altogether.

One other symptom is that I find  it takes more
effort to swallow anything, esp. saliva. I don't
feel a lump in my throat, but just as though my
Adam's apple has gained in size and weight, making
swallowing more cumbersome. Could my whole larynx be
swollen ?

Even if I talk a little, I can feel some soreness
in my voice, especially on the right side of my throat.

I have tried steam inhalation, sleeping with
a humidifier, lozenges... Nothing seems
to help my voice come back to normal.

What should I do ???

Help !!!

Srivatsan

Srivatsan H. Varadarajan          
svaradar@sangeet.intel.com
(408)765-4866
From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Genes
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:48:58 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server


	Howdy,

	I am curious about Genes and passing on "bad" traits.  I have
two problems that I am concerned about.  One is that I am deaf in my
left ear (it is unknown the cause of this).  My right ear is fully
functioning.  The second is my high blood pressure.  My father has it
and so does his uncles.  There is a third trait that I do not have, but
it occurs for my mother and sister (it is depression).  My mother's
father had and so does one of my male cousins.

	My question is: Is it likely that these traits will be passed to
my children???  If so, should I consider not having children?  This is
very serious and has been a concern for me for the last 15 years.

	Any opinions will be helpful, Kirk
From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:45:08 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <55267@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>This is an excellent example of the problem with the practice of medicine.
>If the medical crew makes the decision, they should be stuck with the
>consequences.  On the other hand, if the patient is given the full
>information, and makes an informed decision, only wilful fraud or
>clear incompetence, as determined by a review board which is composed
>of good physicians and pathologists who hate incompetence, but respect
>honest differences, should be actionable.

This would be okay if it were followed. But even if the patient makes
the decision, if something bad happens it still is the physician's
fault. Remember the woman who had a tubal ligation that I posted about
before? She was fully informed of the exact percentage of the cases
in which the tubes reconnect on their own, making pregnancy possible.
She still sued, claiming that "They told me the percentage but they
didn't tell me it would be me." She got her money.

We have been around on this too many times. Informed consent is
meaningless in most cases, and impossible in all. The patient has
never been there before; the doctor has. It is the doctor's
responsibility to help the patient decide.

 -km
From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Subject: Re:  colonic irrigations
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:21:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastern Illinois University
Keywords: alt medicine

In article <debbie.5@dl45.jsc.nasa.gov> debbie@dl45.jsc.nasa.gov (Debbie Lewis) writes:
>>>kmarco writes...how healthy can it be to retain putrified food refuse?
>>dyer writes...you don't
>
>OK, so what do you recommend as a preventative for someone like my
>co-worker who suffered from a ruptured colon.  His doctor said that 
>it was caused by a build-up of fatty deposits from his very high fat
>diet.  These fats blocked his colon and it eventually ruptured.
>
>dfl

I just can't resist.

Does your co-worker eat a lot of mayonnaise?

aks
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas Rand)
Subject: Re: Clinical Trials on Homeopathic Remedies
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<1992Jul28.194421.5328@island.COM>
	<1992Jul30.135157.18773@seanews.akita.com>
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:21:08

In article <1992Jul30.135157.18773@seanews.akita.com> billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick) writes:

   In article <1992Jul28.194421.5328@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
   >Not really, because simple dilution won't affect the potency. Besides,
   >how do you dilute a pill? But certainly it is possible to properly 
   >dilute an extract, thereby increasing its potency. 

   Cool.  That means you only have to buy homeopathics once!

   You can use it forever by continuing dilutions, which according to
   you either don't affect the potency or increases it.

   Wow!  I *love* fuzzy science -- it's cheap!

But you have to be careful... by continuing to dilute it you 
could be in real trouble :) .  You really have to watch it with
the 1:100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 dilutions!
--
Douglas S. Rand <drand@osf.org>		OSF/Motif Dev.
Snail:         11 Cambridge Center,  Cambridge,  MA  02142
Disclaimer:    I don't know if OSF agrees with me... let's vote on it.
Amateur Radio: KC1KJ
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: ALS
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:58:56 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Jul22.023800.6442@techbook.com> kim@techbook.com (91) writes:
>
>How is ALS diagnosed?  Is there a definitive test or symptom?
>
The only definitive test is autopsy.  It can be diagnosed with
about a 99% certainty in most cases by a good neurologist.
It is not a very difficult diagnosis except in its very earliest
stages.  The combination of widespread denervation and upper motor neuron
signs is almost always ALS.  Occassionaly a clivus chordoma,
foramen magnum menigioma or severe spinal stenosis can mimic
the disease, but these can all be ruled out with imaging.  Some
hereditary olivopontocerebellar degenerations can look like ALS
also, and behave somewhat similarly.  

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From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein)
Subject: Re: Colonic irrigations
Keywords: alt medicine
Organization: Strawman Incorporated
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:32:21 GMT

In article <15762@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.013403.24229@techbook.com> cathy@techbook.com (Cathy Gaupo) writes:
>>I have read recently about colonic irrigations being useful for 
>>people with 'backed up systems', or becoming ill, or for people starting
>>a juice fast.  
>>
>>Are they any good?  Do regular M.D.'s see their value?  Is theis only a
>>part of alternate medicine?
>>
>Colonic irrigation is a dangerous quack treatment which has been
>outlawed in many jurisdictions.  It has no established use.
>There have been deaths due to the procedure.

Not to defend colonics, but if you were to ban every procedure which has
resulted in deaths, your so-called scientific medicine would not exist.
-- 
******************************************************************************
Robert Greenstein           What the fool cannot learn he laughs at, thinking
green@island.com            that by his laughter he shows superiority instead
                            of latent idiocy - M. Corelli
From: carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: menstrual cycle "regulation" with co-workers
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:12:12 GMT
Organization: Adaptive Optics Associates

In article <5627@nosc.NOSC.MIL> derion@VAX309.NOSC.MIL writes:
>Can anyone give me info or tell me where to find info on the purported
>phenomenon of menstrual cycles in female co-workers becoming
x
There was similar anecdotal evidence reported on a NOVA show many 
years ago about pheromones (sp?).  I'd dig for research in that
area for more reliable info.


-- 
Bobby Newmark, aka  Carl Witthoft @ Adaptive Optics Associates
aoa!carl@bbn.com  carl@aoa.utc.com
54 CambridgePark Drive, Cambridge,MA 02140 617-864-0201
**Just say NO to HMOs**
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From: web@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (William Bulley)
Newsgroups: sci.med,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Israeli Doctors treat Scoliosis
Summary: what can you tell me about this?
Keywords: scoliosis
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:43:03 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)

In a recent installment of the syndicated Australian television program
"Beyond 2000" as shown on the Discovery Channel, one of the topics covered
was a new medical device developed by doctors in Israel for the treatment of
scoliosis.  Scoliosis is the painful back condition where the human spine is
unnaturally curved in one or more places instead of being perfectly straight.

The medical device was a clever box which applied an electric current (of
low amperage) in the range of sixty to seventy volts to back muscles through
small pads which were taped to the skin of the back.  The box used a high
rate (kHz) of pulsing to interrupt the applied current which was limited to
so many seconds on followed by so many seconds off so as not to damage any of
the back muscles.  The human muscle tissue reacts involuntarily to all of this
by contracting nicely (one cannot prevent this reaction) and the result was a
strengthening of certain back muscles to help counteract the curvature of the
spine.  I am glossing over details due to 1) ignorance and 2) net bandwidth.

What I would like to know is how do I contact these Israeli doctors to find
out where in the United States or where in Israel I can obtain this device?
Please, send any feedback to one of the e-mail addresses below.  Thank you.

--

William Bulley        web@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com  OR  web@lokkur.dexter.mi.us
Schlumberger CAD/CAM  sharkey!applga!web  OR  sharkey!lokkur!web
Ann Arbor, Michigan   (313) 995-6211
-- 
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Schlumberger CAD/CAM            UUCP:   sharkey!applga!web
Ann Arbor, Michigan             MaBell: (313) 995-6211
From: mchadwick@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Clozapine
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:39:07 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

I recently read in Time magazine that clozapine is very effective as a
treatment for schizophrenia.
Does anyone know if it is any more effective than say haloperidol for someone
who has alredy been stabilized on haloperidol ?
Are there any other new drugs available or being tested that are also a jump
ahead of the current medications ?
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:45:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <15823@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>In article <54911@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>>In article <15784@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:

>>>Excuse me. The next time I go into a shoe store where the salesman
>>>has been on his feet the past 12 hours with 50 patients, 3 cardiac
>>>arrests, 2 major trauma cases, and a bunch of prissy private doctors
>>>on the phone telling him what to do with the little old lady with
>>>gas, I'll address him differently.

>>If that is the situation, we need more doctors!  If you have been on
>>your feet for the past 12 hours, *I* personally am unwilling to trust
>>your ability to act in a competent medical manner.

>Hmm. Are you going to hire two doctors to do the above workload and
>pay them each half what I was paid? The above was a typical Saturday
>day tour for me, in 1985, at $32 per hour. And that included 
>*NO* benefits of any kind. Today the same hospital pays about $45
>an hour.

If we did not have the current restrictions on the production of
physicians, we could increase the supply without reducing quality.
ER medicine is not the bulk of the medical cost.  And I see absolutely
no reason to use the present torture systems in the training of interns
and residents, which I believe cannot but be a part of the unwillingness
of physicians to discuss, communicate, and think.  

There are quite a few competent foreign physicians who would like to
immigrate.  If we cannot produce enough in this country, by all means
let them come in!  And raise our standards, NOT courses, attendance,
and time spent, in the process.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!pop.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Subject: Re: Weight/appearance of professional models; Re: Obesity...
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:25:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <15738@pitt.UUCP> 
	geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:

>Bodybuilding has decidedly taken a pathological turn
>in the past 10 years, I think.  If you look at the movie
>"Pumping Iron" you don't see the males (and even females!)
>who have eliminated the last ounce of body fat.  On ESPN I
>saw a competition where the contestants had elimated so much
>fat that every vein in their backs was visible as well as
>unsightly subcutaneous nodules that are not usually visible
>in people.  When people go to these extremes, the facial
>fat is also lost and the faces on these guys (and girls) look
>skeletal.  They look like someone who has AIDS.  How this 
>has happened to people who started out wanting to be fit and
>healthy is a mystery to me, but it is a type of pathologic
>obsession, as far as I can tell.  I'm sure steroids is a
>part of the pathology in most of them as well.

These people never started out with the notion of being fit and
healthy.  And, not surprisingly, they aren't!  They perform about as
well on the treadmill ECG tests as an old lady.  Actually, in the
condition they are in when they are at a competition, I wouldn't
recommend the test at all -- unsafe, I'm sure.

These people wanted to be {bigger, stronger, prettier} according to
some perverse standard that is based on an arbitrary notion of what the
ideal body is -- instead of taking the model from athletes who actually
do something other than pose.

Male bulimia has been common in one sport -- wrestling -- where a premium
is placed on achieving the lowest possible weight in order to be competitive.
The whole team goes out for pizza, then purges together...
-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
From: Berger@cup.portal.com (Mark - Berger)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: "Bodyworks" software disappoints (attempt #2)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 23:34:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

I've gotten lots of mailing regarding Bodyworks, the software from Software
Marketing Corp.  My first attempt at this failed mid-post.

I purchased it from Price 
Club for $36.  It went downhill from there.  The text describing the organs
and structures is merely fluff.  It is limited, remedial, and weak.

The only animation is a beating heart (outside view--no valves) and some
breathing lungs.  These are just afterthoughts, I think, so they can promise
animation on the box!  I found that several common structures, like 
acetabulum, were completely foreign to this software.  You can search all
day for it and never find it.  In addition, the thing only supports HP

Laserjets and Epsons.  Therefore, if I want to print to my HP Deskjet, I have
to go out and buy a $100 Epson emulation cartridge.  Tell me, if you bought
anatomy software, wouldn't you want to print things?  Don't they think 
teachers are going to buy things such as this?  Finally, the documentation
is very limited.


Maybe I'm just picky.  I must admit that this is my first experience with
$35 software.  Maybe I am expecting too much for the few dollars spent.  It 
just seems that the thing is all gee-whiz graphics for lay people.  It has
next to no value for anyone in the sciences/medical fields.

I would like to hear others experience.  Have I missed something?  Am I too
persnickety?  
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: used to be very fat....
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:25:33 GMT

In article <Bs6sEz.Iz3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tpe36878@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mr. Mensa ) writes:
>Hello everybody:
>
>	I am posting this for two reasons: first, I am wondering if anyone
>out there has experienced a similar situation, and secondly, I would like to
>know if anyone knows what I may do to alleviate some of my woes.
>	First, my situation. When I was a senior in high school, I weighed in
>at 315 lbs and by August of that same year, before I took off for school, I
>had dropped to about 200 lbs. Today, I weigh about 190 (I'm now a senior
>in college). I have noticed some rather peculiar changes in my health since I
>have lost weight.
>	When I was heavy, I would constantly sweat. Even though I am in
>incredible health (as my doctor puts it), I will work up a sweat if I walk
>around the block on a cool day. Many people, doctors included, have told me
>that there is no health problem here and that it is simply a good internal
>thermostat regulating my body temperature.
>	Heart disease and high blood pressure run in my family, but I have
>low (110/70) blood pressure and a constantly slow heart (rest rate of 40-45bpm).
>Now I know that a slow resting heart rate is indicative of a strong heart, but
>I wonder about this given my family history. Also related to this low blood
>pressure: I have a problem of blacking out a lot. If I sit in a chair for any
>length of time and stand up, I will experience a sensation of numbness in my
>face and almost passing out. My family doctor tells me that this is the same
>thing that my grandfather had and that it is nothing to worry about...
>	Finally, I am wondering if anyone reading this has had a huge 
>weight loss like I have. I am very interested in hearing whether or not
>any such people have experienced similar problems after losing a lot of
>weight.

You didn't mention how you lost the weight.  Was it by dieting?

I lost quite a bit of weight in the 70's and had some of the
same artifacts.  (I hesitate to call all of them symptoms.) My
pulse rate and blood pressure were much lower than when I was
heavier.  These decreases are documented side effects of weight
loss induced metabolic slowdown and do not necessarily indicate
a proportional improvement in cardiovascular health.

I also got dizzy almost to the point of blacking out when
abruptly arising from a chair.  This is a documented side
effect of dieting.

These effects subside when body weight returns to set point.

-- 
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX          ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf 
Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
  Omen Technology Inc    "The High Reliability Software"
17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD   Portland OR 97231   503-621-3406
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: tony@disk.uucp (tony)
Subject: Re: Sleeping Pills
Organization: Digital Information Systems of KY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:38:32 GMT

underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

>My memory seems to have faded, but what is the principal ingredient
>in sleeping pills that are not over-the-counter (OTC)?


	It depends on the drug.  In many hypnotics the active ingredient is
a barbituate (i.e., Seconal, Tuinal, Nembutal, etc.).  In many others, it is
variable.  It just depends on the drug.  The once-popular sleeping pills, 
...Sopor, Parrest, Quaalude were all different trade names for the hypnotic
methaqualone.  In Dalmane the active ingredient is flurazepam.  The best way
to get an answer to your question is to go to your public library's reference
department and peruse either a current PDR (Physician's Desk Reference) or a
copy of "Goodman & Gilman's Pharmacologic Basis of Therapeutics."  These two
reference books will answer every question you have.

	-=- Tony Safina -=- disk!tony@uunet.UU.NET -=-
	----------------------------------------------


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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Re: Mefloquine and Homeopathy?
Keywords: Adverse rxns to drug =? symptoms of disease
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 16:35:03 EDT

In article <Jul.24.10.20.50.1992.8512@yoko.rutgers.edu> dcohen@yoko.rutgers.edu (Dawn Myfanwy Cohen) writes:
>
>I just saw the pharmacist's insert for mefloquine.  Among other 
>disclaimers and warnings, it said that adverse reactions to the
>drug may not be distinguishable from symptoms of malaria which
>it is intended to treat.  
>
>Sounds like it fits in with homeopathic philosophy, to me.  And
>no one can say that it is quackery wrt allopathic (or western
>traditional, if you prefer) medicine -- MD's prescribe it.
>-- 

So whats the big deal?  This is supposed to be evidence in favor
of homeopathy?

Lots of drugs cause side effects which bear a resemblence to symptoms
of the condition for which they are prescribed.  That is not always
coincidence -- but its not homeopathy.  Antidepressants can sometimes
be extremely helpful for headaches, but they can sometimes also cause
headache as a side effect.

--
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suny health science center, syracuse      voice: (315) 422-1050
================= courtesy of syracuse university ================
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Use of term allopath
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:18:04 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Jul30.190339.6160@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>
>What? Untested you say? Chinese and auyervedic medicine have both been
>extensively tested and refined for several thousand years. How much
>more testing do you need? Please don't use the excuse that they were
>not using double-blind experiments. There is enough empirical evidence
>compiled with tens of thousands of observations, that this medicine 
>absolutely works, and not on account of the placebo effect.  

I agree that it should be investigated, and in India, it is.
I know several Indian doctors who tell me that they do investigate
the traditional herbs there.  One I talked to recently
feels that most of them don't do what they are claimed to, but 
he says that in some fields, such as dermatology, they are quite
good.  These are mostly applied to the skin, and not taken internally,
however.  Without systematic investigation, we won't know which
ones work and for what.  Of course, you can always have faith
and assume that the tradition is always correct.  I just can't
do that, I'm afraid.
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