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From: an3919@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Kuram Narayana on Kings ...PMK propagandist!
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:27:41 GMT


Mathurai cholakattabomman anti-civilization Kathivaran writes:
narayana@oracorp.com (K.T. Narayana) writes:

>> ............ There is an edict of emperor Ashoka that he
>> brought righteousness to the Pandya, Chera, and Chola
>> country.

> It is a humanist culture. We gave refuge to Jews
> in 167 AD. The copper plates owned by Jews in malabar written

Ha ha, *we* did not give refuge, they did! Cheras arte keralites and
thankfully not pandis. While malayalam might have evolved out of
Tamil, Chera culture and all the subsequent rulers were very different
in their cultural and humanistic background. Kerala has been ruled by
aryanized or aryan rulers 9notwithstanding the commie assertions otherwise)
and kerala rulers did have a caste system which is an aryan influence/relic.
Kerala developed rich literature which was written in a language
called Manipravalam which was mixture of Sanskrit with malayalam.
So, do not take credit for what was not yours.

> culture as opposed to your RSSical/hitlerite/aryanical/kuramiccal lineage.
> you are a foul rascal

So anyone who says the truth is Hitlerite, eh? If there is any development
in Tamil Nadu it is because of the Aryan influence. In spite of that,
it is one state ( not counting Bihar) where sycophancy and dictatorship
and primitive-ass kissing is taken for democracy. It is the only
Indian state where freedom of press is openly challenged by the
legislature, examples of which are numerous. The fisrt state to start
idol worshipping some imbecile movie actor, first state to elevate
his concubine to chief ministership after he died, first state where
semi-literate movie starlets run the affairs of the state, the honors go
to Tamil Nadu. All this after the intellegent Aryanized population was
ousted from all benevolent positions by semi-humans whose clans wage war
in other countries donning terrorist outfits.

Even now, if Tamil Nadu is known to the outside world, it is because of
the Brahmins who use their brains to bring glory to the whole country,
not because of the rest of the sub-humans. You should be ashamed Mr
kattabomman pathalamackal kachi, to run down the aryans to support
the blood-thirsty sub-humans and to take credit of other people's
generosity as yours.

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From: sb@flux.isr.alaska.edu (Santanu Bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: Bekel Holo.... Theker somoae
Organization: Geophysical Institute, Fairbanks, AK
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:37:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.220548.28471@zip.eecs.umich.edu> bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya) writes:
>In article <Jan.6.15.30.12.1993.4217@paul.rutgers.edu> partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man) writes:
>>
>The Blue Lagoon restaurant was horribly overpriced and only
>elitist upper-class :) students could afford to go there. 
> 
>If anyone cares, I always used to patronise Hindustan Sweets :)
>

>The coffee house was fine too, but the pakoras were lousy. Besides,
>the Jadavpur Coffee House suffered because it always invited
>comparison with its redoubtable and more well-known counterpart,
>the College Street Coffee House, to which Jadavpur finished a 
>miserable second. The Jadavpur Coffee House definitely lacked 
>the intellectual aristocracy of College Street.
>
	C'mon Sayan, panjabi, pajama ar kolhapure chati pare, kadhe
Shantiniketani bag jhuliye, besh koyekdin dari na kamiye theke aleye 
ki ar aantel aristocrat hoya jaye?  :) 
>
>-Sayan Bhattacharyya.
>
>--------
Santanu Bhattacharyya
>
>Kolkata ekdin kollolini tilottoma hobe' |
	Kolkata chiro Kollolini, tabe tilottoma ? Amader jibonkale Mane hoy 
na! 
>                        - Jibanananda Dash.
>
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Kha^TTi \gaONwall=^k^Ka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: why pHo^R phItiNg pHellow?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 02:35:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


yEh Saaab AAj Kol Kya Bolta Hai? everyOne call nime to evEry one And
saying bad bad things! ^What happening and what for is wrong with 
peepuLs? WhaT is GeoRge chaCKo kannaN sooted booted Pheeloows think about us
bhaRat phellows.

And why PhOR did you NOt include my name in tHE list oph aLL thOSE 
peepuLS>? you are thiNking iAm not imPoretant person? you are thInkING
you ingoring me and I do no thing and sitting on the corner and weeping?
mY unCle knows Lallu parshAD jI 2 well intHe paTna munshiple ishkol.
they are plAying guLLi dunda when childs in ishkol. sO my uncle jI will
say LallujI to kicK your uncle da butt.

buT whY phor arE we phiting? we are veRy busty to waist tIme ( tyme is
mony, beRnaRd sHah said) inshted oph dooing good deed for kuntry
like bhai raM ^LaKhan saab told tO us.

hum shob bhai bhai hai.

Khatti Gaonwalla.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Bekel bela, Theker somoai
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:58:41 GMT

dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:

>Nishitda--> Achcha tui aato gaalagal korish kano , bol to ?

>Deepokda--> Abey saala gaalagal korbo na to ki hori-bol hori-bol
>		korbo . Are tora sob sala hypocrit , gaalagal na
>		korle ki , maagir dike nongra nojor diye to takas .

>			
>Nisitda --> Amake erom bolbina . Aami shob maagider maa-bon bhaabi ,kintu....

>Deepokda--> kintu ki ?

>Nisitda--> Kintu ooi Moostaphar bou goolo ke dekhle aar thakte paari na .
>		Jano premer saagore doobe gelaam . Tomra MOOstapha ke jaai
>		bolo or bou golo kintu jaa taa JOOSH !!

>Phophot--> Aamake bhi o bahoooot aachchee lagat hai . O brand new waali bou
>	  hai naa , oo  humka ghoor-ghoor ke aise dekhat jaise humre dil ma
>	  koi garaam garaam choora ghusaawat . 

>		
>Debda --> Tora shob saala ooi haraamir bou dikei takabi , aamar bou ta ki 
>	  aato karaab . :-) [sorry deb :-) ]

>	  < Ruchir da , MOOtapha and samit da react immediately >

>	  < to be continued .>


>Deepak :-)


Ruchirda--> Tui ki boojhbi , tui ki rotner malik .

MOOstapha --> Aamaar ooi chaarter bodole jodi tor bouer moton ekta thakto
		to allah-ho-akbar bhoole begum-ka-naukar bone jetaam .

samitda -->Deb , my phrend , tui ki janish aaj opdi aami beeye korini kano ?

PhopHOT-->Humra baap to bachpan me hi lub-marriage karwa diye humra .

Nishitda--> Chaar ooi shob kotha . MOOstapha , tor 4th bouer na ki 7th
	   bachcha hoechche ??

Moostapha-->(maatha neechu kore ) han ! hoechche .

Debda--> Abey gaadha holo ki gaadhi ?

MOOstapha--> eei bare allah gaadha diyeche .

Shobai ek shate --> HEEEEEEY ! CONGHRATSH ! MISHTI KHAAWA .

Deepokda--> Hey ! MOOstaphaar accounte shobar jonne ekta chotto cha aar
	aamar jonne ekta DOBOL bread-aamlet niye aaye .

Ruchirda--> ( daariye pore )Tui shaala shobar jonno ekta choto cha aar nijer
	jonno DOBOL bread-aamlet . Eeearki pecho ?

Phophot--> Hum to sirf tharra piwat hoon . humka cha nahi chai .

Ruchir--> Saala maatal kothakaar .

PhopHOT--> Log kehete hain mai sharaaabi hoon , tumne bhi shayad......

Debda--> Abey Bachchaner gaan gaachchish , cheharaa dekhechish nijer .

Phop(again)HOT--> dil ko dekho chehera na dekho ....

Debda--> Achcha thaak thaak !

Parthoda-->(birir dhooa chharte-chharte ) Bachchaner recent movie dekhte
		jaabi ?

Dipokda -->eei Bachchan aar sheyi Bachchan noye .

Parthoda--> Se ki bolchish ?

Deepokda-->Are ki bolbo , ektao gaalagal dayenaa aaj kaal . Are sholay te
	ki tremendash ch#$%@ cheelo gabbar singhke . 

Bijoyda--> Tui ekta Kar Sevak bandor acting ki boojhbi . Jaa zoo te bhorti hoye jaa .

Deepokda--> dakh bijoy , aamar booke onek gaalagal chepe rekhechi .

		Don't ekshait me .

< guys please continue >

Deepak
From: baronia@bluto.nas.nasa.gov (Rajiv Baronia)
Subject: Help sought in Cleveland, Ohio.
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:40:54 GMT
Distribution: usa



FOR RESIDENTS OF CLEVELAND, OHIO






I am looking for someone in Cleveland; who could possibly provide
me some help/advise regarding the local transportation/distances
etc. in Cleveland.

Thanks in advance.

			- Rajiv Baronia

				baronia@nas.nasa.gov
				baronia@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srin@cs.cornell.edu (Aravind Srinivasan)
Subject: Thiruppavai Verse 26
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Cornell Univ., Ithaca NY
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:20:15 GMT


I am posting this on behalf of 
Dr. K. Srinivasan (srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca).

Regards,
Aravind.

===================================================================

\height=660 \width=460 \leftmargin=10 \C
\(TAMIL20) 26. raagam: kunthaLa varaaLi
\beginbox
maalE! maNivaNNaa! maargazhi neeraaduvaan
mElaiyaar seyvanagaL vEnduvana kEttiyEl
NYaalaththai ellaam nadunga muralvana
paal anna vaNNaththu un paancha sanniyamE
pOlvana sankangaL pOy(p) paadudaiyanavE
saala(p) perum paRaiyE pallaandu isaippaarE
kOla viLakkE kodiyE vidhaanamE
aalin ilaiyaay aruLElOr embaavaay
\endbox

\c \J
Oh Lord (maale! maNi vaNNaa! aalin ilaiyaay! ) If you ask us (kEttiyEl) what
we want (vEnduvana);  Bless us (aruLElOr) to endure the penance (neeraaduvaan)
as done (seyvanagaL) by elders (mElaiyaar) in the month of december/january
(margazhi); We need conchs (sankangal) like (pOlvana) your (un) own milky
white (paalanna vaNNaththu) paancha sanyam, the sound (muralvana) of which
makes the whole (ellaam) earth (Nyaalam) tremble (nadunga); powerful (pOy
paadudaiyana) very (chaala) big (perum) drums (paRai); those who sing
(isaippaar) the 'Tamil paasurams'(pallaandu) of the Alwars; decorative (kOla)
lamps (viLakku); flags (kodi) and other decorations (vidhaanamE).
\j
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mehta@ucunix.san.uc.edu (mehta)
Subject: Satellite TV blamed for Indian Riots
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:38:07 GMT


 I found this article on SATNEWS.  Might be of some interest to the
people on this newsgroup.  Only comment I have is "what else will the
ministers blame next?"


SATELLITE TV BLAMED FOR INDIAN RIOTS
Influential Indian politicians are accusing satellite television of
aggravating recent Hindu-Moslem riots which saw  over a thousand
people killed in violence around India at the start of December. 
Satellite television has been a success in the country, with
satellite dishes receiving programmes from many different
countries. Foreign news programmes are especially popular as they
often show images censored by Doordarshan, India's state-run
television network.

Footage of a Moslem shrine in Ayodhya being attacked by Hindu
militants relayed by the BBC and CNN into India were cited as being
instrumental in triggering a community backlash throughout the
country.  India is directly within the footprint of the Hong
Kong-based Star TV network. Recent market share figures released
suggest that up to 1.5 million Indians tune into Star TV
broadcasts.

"Millions of people saw the mosque being demolished on the BBC and
CNN and their anger was uncontrollable," said Sharad Pawar, India's
defence minister.

An editorial in the Times of India said that the credibility of
Doordarshan and All India Radio have hit an all-time low, and that
the BBC is now generally accepted to be the last word in
authenticity.

Some Indian religious leaders are calling for restrictions to be
reinforced on the reception of foreign television broadcasts. And
the Indian media has joined in.  "The foreign networks,
particularly CNN and the BBC, went out of their way to show the
gory visuals of outraged people screaming and  
shouting," said an article in the Financial Express of India
newspaper. 

Other newspapers called for considered restraint in the coverage of
domestic events by foreign broadcasters.




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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Asshole, you have to produce better evidence.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 04:15:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan4.221654.5921@fuug.fi> an3814@anon.penet.fi writes:

This anonymous person using a flimsy bit of evidence that anybody could
have posted, proceeds to accuse me of deception and hypocrisy. Well it's
going to take a lot more than that to convince most people who know me
that I was behind all this. As you yourself demonstrated, a few days
ago, that it dosen't take much to copy somebody's sig file and use
it in an anonymous posting. And there is a strong possibility that it was
you or someone you are trying to protect, who went through this entire
rigmarole of a signed anonymous posting.

For starters you might want to get that guy in Finland to disclose the
identity of an3925 on the net. I have tried to reason with him to let
that cloak of anonymity fall, but to no avail. Failing that, mailer
daemon records from my account should indicate if any mail was sent from
the gateway at USC to the server in Finland, especially around the date 
and time that these articles appeared on SCI. You will have to contact
my systems administartor for that. Thirdly, it is also possible for
you to contact the systems administrators at the various sites through
which my message must have travelled before reaching Finland. Remember that
the message was un-anonymized at that point and a systems admin. at any
of these nodes can tell you where it originated.

I have neither the intention nor desire nor obligation, moral or ethical, 
to get this information for you since you seem to have fired the first 
shot in accusing me. It is thus your responsibility to prove with a 
preponderance of evidence that I was actually behind this mischief. 

The subterfuge and chicanery that you employ behind the relative comfort of 
an alias to blame other people and thus shift the spotlight away from
Mustafa Ibrahim is disgusting and despicable. I think that if you accuse
me of something you should have the courage and sense of responsibility 
to step forward and identify yourself. But is that asking too much of a
coward?

Finally, one last thing. I must let you know that I do not call people
"bastards" while using an alias for deception. If need be and in this case
it definitely seems warranted, I could use my own account to spew four letter
words across this newsgroup or any other, without resorting to the anonymity
of a server in Finland ?  Can you do the same or did you just wet your 
trousers thinking of that possibility?


Samit
-- 
Samit Banerjee,			    |  
University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |
From: rkrithiv@hopi.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Swami Vivekananda : On Hinduism
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:37:11 GMT
Organization: ---------------
Distribution: world
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Article from: Tattva Darsana
Titled : Swami Vivekananda's Mission
Published by: Sister Nivedita Academy
              118 Big Street, Triplicane
              Madras: 600 005

----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Hinduism
-----------

The vast complexus of systems which made up Hinduism, was in every case
based upon the experimental realisation of religion, and characterized
by an infinite inclusiveness. The only tests of conformity ever imposed
by the priesthood had been social, and while this has resulted in a 
great rigidity of custom, it implied that to their thinking the mind was
eternally free. But it could not be disputed that the thought area 
within Hinduism, as actually realised, had been coloured by the
acumulation of a few distinctive ideas, and these were the main subjects
of the Swami's Address before the Parliament of Religions, at Chicago,
in 1983. 

First of these special conceptions, with which India might be said to be
identified, was that of the cyclic nature of the cosmos. On the relation
of the creator and created, as equal elements in a dualism which can
never be more than a relative truth, Hinduism has a profound philosophy,
which Vivekananda, with his certanity of grasp, was able to set forth in
a few brief words. The next doctrine which he put forward, as
distinctive of India thought in general, was that of reincarnation and
karma, ending in the manifestation of the divine nature of man. And
finally universality of truth, whatever the form of thought or worship,
completed his enumeration of these secondary differentia. In a few clear
sentences, he had completely established the unity, and delineated the
salient features of Hinduism. The remainder of his work in the West was,
in the main, a free gift in the modern and universal forms, of the great
inspirations contained in the Eternal faith. To him as a religious
teacher, the whole world was India, and man, everywhere a member of his
fold. 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Krithi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: MUSTAFA JAA KE ALT.FLAME ME DEKH
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:40:21 GMT






	BECHAARE MUSTAFA ,

		ALT.FLAME ME TERI KHOOB PITAI HO RAHI HAI .

		EVEN THE AMERICANS ARE ABUSING YOU .

		ALONGWITH YOU THEY ARE ALSO ABUSING ISLAM

		AND PAKISTAN(A TERRORIST STATE)

		HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!

		MAZAA AA GAYAA !!!

		HO HO HO HO HO !!!

		ABEY JAA KE DEKH TERA KYA HAAL HO GAYAA HAI .

		HI HI HI HI HI

		TAKE MY SYMPATHIES WITH YOU .


				    DEEPAK



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Sneaky posts from women's net
Keywords: sleazeballs, sleazebuckets,poker,BIG JOB, Dating. HANG 	LOOSE	 ON 	THE 	CABOOSE !
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:07:16 GMT

mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>90% of the Muslims in the Indian subcontinent are Hindu converts and most
>of them are from the backward classes.  Unless you prove to me otherwise,
>in my eyes you will always be a BHANGI or a CHAMAAR whose forefathers 
>accepted Islam.  So by degrading Bhangis dude you are degrading yourself.   

>>Shams Hasan.


>Manoj


	WAh WAH MAHOJ BHAI MAZAA AA GAYAA .

	U.S.A. SHOULD ALSO THINK OF DECLARING 

	PAKIATAN A BHANGI/CHAMAAR  STATE .

	HA HA HA HA 

	PAKISTAN( A BHANGI/CHAMAAR STATE ) ZINDABAAD !!!!!

	Ho HO HO

					DEEPAK





Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: m-sj7228@GROUCHO.CS.NYU.EDU (Sanjay Jaiswal)
Subject: test,ignore
Organization: New York University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:40:41 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta)
Subject: Concept Called Nation
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Billerica, Mass. (USA)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:34:35 GMT


			Concept Called Nation

	There are three words which are often confused with each other and are
used interchangeably viz State, Country and Nation. These words convey a 
definite meaning which are different from each other. The debate over national 
identity would be clearer if we try to find the meaning these words convey.
The state is an 'administrative entity', country is a 'geographical entity' 
and Nation is an 'emotional entity'. 
	Many a times we're told that we were never a nation and it were the 
britishers who gave us a nation. All this confusion arise because we tend to 
confuse nation with country or state. What we snatched from britishers was a 
state and not nation. Hindus are a nation for thousands of years. Jews were a 
nation even though they didn't have a country for two thousand years. Same way,
Hindus are a nation and have a country too. Many people say that before moghuls
also we were never one and different parts were ruled by different kings. True,
what the kings ruled were states or country because it is an administrative 
concept. Even now local govt. in India, in her different states, is 
administratively ruled by different people. A case in point is USSR. Yes, USSR 
broke up precisely because it was a state of nations unlike India which is a 
nation of states. India also broke up because the people living in those parts 
disowned their nationhood. So the question of nationhood is vital to the very 
survival of India. You don't have to live in this or that particular 
geographical part to be a part of nation. 
	Often nationalistic people in India are accused of trying to establish
a theocratic Hindu state. I don't think there is any  concept of Hindu state
(like Islamic states) but there is definitely a Hindu concept of state and a 
Hindu concept of state can not be anything which doesn't respect various ways of
worship. The upheavals in India is a confrontation between those who believe 
that we are very much a nation and those who believe we are a nation in the 
making. It is a conflict between Hindu concept of state and the amoral and 
sterile secular concept of state. It is this Hindu concept of state which Hindu 
nation is trying to adopt. And rightly so because the experience show
(e.g. Pakistan, Bangladesh and Kashmir) that India is nothing if not Hindu. The
attempt being made in India is not for the creations of nationhood, it is for 
the recognition of the nation which is very much in our blood and bones. 

Sanjay K. Gupta
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Article from 'The Hindu'
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:36:39 GMT

subraman@myria.cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian) writes:



>______________________________________________________________________
>Excerpts from a News article from 'The Hindu: International Edition'
>dt.Jan 9th 1993.

>		SADHUS NOW CLAIM JAMA MASJID ALSO


>	'Swami' Vamdev, the leading 'sadhu' of the Ayodhya agitation
>and the All India Sant Samiti today added Delhi's Jama Masjid to the
>list of mosques which, according to him," the Muslims must surrender
>voluntarily to the Hindus" before a stop is put to their agitation for
>restoration of temples destroyed during the Moghul rule.

>	'Swami' Vamdev and other saffron-clad 'sadhus' in the Ayodhya
>movement have also taken upon themselves the task of recommending
>changes in the Constitution and the economic policies of the country.
>They have announced that at an All India Sant Sammelan at 'Prayag'
>(Allahabad) on January 25 they "will give direction to the country".

>End Excerpt_____________________________________________________________
>	


>		'HINDU-RASHTRA ZINDABAD'

>		HA HA HA HA HA !		

>		HO HO HO HO HO !		

>			( Kyon Fafat theek bhola na? )

>	
>satish		

>PS: Sorry Deepak, couldn't resist it!


                +++++++++++++++++++++++
		B-I-G    D-E-A-L !!!!!
		++++++++++++++++++++++++


Look Satish ,

	Just because You are my room mate , I leave you this time .

	Don't write shitty articles on SCI .

	Today is your cooking duty . GO and cook !! 

	I'll be back by nine and the dinner should be ready . OK !!!

	Go home and get down to business !!!

		See you !!

					Deepak