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From: rmt@dstos3.dsto.gov.au (Russell Thamm)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: using a mouse in a dos program whie it is a window
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:26:34 GMT
Organization: DSTOS

In article <BuAL5w.B7I@animal.gcs.co.nz> lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu) writes:
>Subject: Re: using a mouse in a dos program whie it is a window
>From: lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu)
>Date: 9 Sep 92 03:46:39 GMT

>In article <1992Sep7.220048.12029@samba.oit.unc.edu> areid@med.unc.edu (Alfred Reid) writes:
>>CKT0@LEHIGH.EDU writes...
>>>I have been unable to find info on or figue out how to use my mouse in a dos
>>>appclation while it is running as a window. I am using windows 3.1 and I have
>>>hurd this is possible. Dose anyone know how? Help would be apprecated.
>>
>>The DOS window must be full-screen *before* starting the application. 
>>Don't know if this is generally the case but that's how it works with the
>>three mouse-aware DOS apps that I use under Windows 3.1 (WP 5.1,
>>DrawPerfect 1.1, and Lotus 123 2.2).  Your mileage may vary.
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Alfred Reid                                                 areid@med.unc.edu
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Department of Family Medicine,  University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,
>>Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7595.     (919) 966-3711 [voice]; (919) 966-6125 [FAX]
>>
>>

>Not exactly true. To get the mouse to work in a Window you need two things
>1.  A mouse driver loaded outside of Windows. There should be one on the
>Windows disk as mouse.sy_ or mouse.co_. Needs to be expanded.
>2.  A Win 3.1 compliant video driver. If you're using standard VGA then
>that would work. If you are using svga on ET4000, Trident, etc. cards then
>you will need to locate the 3.1 drivers on the various FTP sites. Although
>3.0 drivers will work, things like mouse in a Window and scalable fonts in
>a dos windows will not.

>Laurence Chiu

Read SYSINI.WRI, particularly the MOUSEINDOSBOX setting.
It works fine with a Microsoft Mouse but I can't get a GENIUS mouse
to work, presumably I need an updated mouse driver (cf Windows Manual).

Unfortunately, the manual omits mention of the MouseInDosBox setting
which is essential for using a mouse in a DOS application in a window.

The bottom line is this:

a) Load mouse driver before starting windows (you may need a new driver
   for a non-microsoft mouse).

b) Modify SYSTEM.INI as specified in SYSINI.WRI.

It should work.
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From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Tseng 4000 turbo driver
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:27:44 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep14.174821.29598@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Philip Schlesinger) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.082237.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>>Where can the tseng 4000 turbo drivers be found (ftp.cica.indiana.edu?)
>>what's the name of the file and the dir it's in?
>> - Thanks
>> - Kirk
> 
> Hi.  Did you find any drivers?  I need the latest too...Phil
> 
> -- 
> Philip Schlesinger                         schles@cs.jhu.edu
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> "How'd you get that Cray II to run slower than my old C-64?"
> "Oh, that took a bit of doing.  Take a look at /bin/session"

I found the driver on "ftp.cica.indiana.edu"
in the win31/drivers section (something like that)
(It may have been in the uploads also, probably there first then moved)
it was tsengturbo.zip or something of that sort, sorry I'm so vague, I don't
remember offhand all the stuff, but I'm sure you can find it)
 - Kirk
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Which Extnd. Mem. - EMM386 or SMARTDRV??
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


My machine (386 25mhz 2 meg RAM) was using the SMARTDRV
extended memory for Windows 3.1. I got a game that uses
extended memory out in DOS, and it said that extended
memory was not found. So a friend suggested that I use
EMM386 instead of SMARTDRV. The game plays well, but
how will this effect Windows?

Also, I heard QMM is better than EMM386. Anyone know?



THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Is Tseng Lab ET4000 an Windows accelerator chip ?
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:49:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: spcvxb.1992Sep4.164944.3777
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <JBS.92Sep4122250@sun1.Congruent.COM>, jbs@Congruent.COM (Jeffrey Siegal) writes:
> In article <1992Aug20.002048.3652@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:
> 
>      While the ET4000 does allow simple bitblt's, I don't know of any Win
>    driver that takes advantage of this.
> 
> I haven't the slightest idea what you might be referring to.  Perhaps
> you have the ET4000 confused with some other device.

  I'm talking about giving the ET4000 chip (not the BIOS or the Windows driver)
two set of coordinates and saying "copy and mask". This is the sort of function
that's built into accelerator chips. The ET4000 has some simple ops, but for
complex moves (which most Windows operations seem to be) the host has to manip-
ulate the frame buffer contents on the board directly, rather than letting the
ET4000 do the changes asynchronously.

  Better?

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.setup:1264 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:3012
From: barry@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu (Barry Kort)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Need DECMOUSE.DRV for Windows 1.01 on VAXmate
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:12:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Distribution: comp
Organization: MicroMuse

I am doing some volunteer work for a local school, helping them
get the most out of their computer resources.

I gave them an old copy of MS Windows (Version 1.01) to run on a
VAXmate.  This machine has a 3-buttion DECmouse, with native mouse
drivers (DECMOUSE.SYS and DECMOUSE.COM).  Windows does not recognize
or honor this mouse driver.  Can anyone help me out with a Windows
compatible mouse driver for use with the 3-button DECmouse on the
VAXmate under DOS 3.1?  Many thanks.

Barry Kort
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford)
Subject: Re: How to set up COM 4 in Terminal??.
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:19:48 GMT

In article <rdippold.716446251@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>gcook@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Greg Cook|xxxxxx) writes:
>>My modem is using COM 4 (I can't use com2 or com3 without changing
>>things on my serial card, and I don't really want to do that).
>
>>When I try to set up com 4 in windows Terminal, it won't let me (not
>>supported or in use by something else).  It will accept com 1-3 but
>>that's not where my modem is.
>
>Catch-22.  Windows really, _really_ wants you to use your COM ports in
>order. There are solutions, including purchasing the TurboComm drivers
>for Windows, but it'll probably be easier in the long run to set up
>COM2 correctly.

	What I did was to run "Microsoft Diagnostics" which came with 
Windows and determined the address of the port.  More than likely
Windows gets serial port addresses wrong.  Once you know the address
of the port, run Control Panel and select the ports and enter in 
the address of the port.  Jeff B.
From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: using a mouse in a dos program whie it is a window
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:05:16 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1992Sep7.181426.137158@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ckt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES KEITH TESSLER) writes:
>I have been unable to find info on or figue out how to use my mouse in a dos
>appclation while it is running as a window. I am using windows 3.1 and I have
>hurd this is possible. Dose anyone know how? Help would be apprecated.
>-- 
>

I got this from another person who posted it here.  I've tried it and it works
for me so see if it does on your setup too.  Here goes:

  [386Enh]
  local=$PCMOUSE

This setting usually has value of "CON."  Also, I'm not really sure if it's
PC$MOUSE or $PCMOUSE but you know what to do.

George
From: pmarquis@jade.tufts.edu (the Edge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: DOS-Windows and QEMM
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:00:08 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

We have 486 PC's with Diamond Speedstar graphic adapters and are using QEMM
6.02 (in Stealth M mode) with Windows 3.1.  When we run a DOS shell and try
to switch to 132 columns, we continue to get 80 columns.  Has anyone gotten
this to combination to work?  I'd prefer to keep using Stelath mode as we
have quite a few TSR's that we need to load high.

Thanks for all your help.
--
Paul, the Edge, Marquis

pmarquis@jade.tufts.edu
From: schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Philip Schlesinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Tseng 4000 turbo driver
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:48:21 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD

In article <1992Sep10.082237.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>Where can the tseng 4000 turbo drivers be found (ftp.cica.indiana.edu?)
>what's the name of the file and the dir it's in?
> - Thanks
> - Kirk

Hi.  Did you find any drivers?  I need the latest too...Phil

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: davidw@ida.dsir.govt.nz (David White)
Subject: Covox SndMaster driver?
Organization: DSIR/IDA Auckland, New Zealand
Date:  8 Sep 92 02:01:36 GMT

Does a Win3.1 driver exist for the Covox
SoundMaster? Any pointers appreciated.

davidw@auck.irl.cri.nz
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: kbm8572@summa.tamu.edu (BRYAN MILLIGAN)
Subject: Still can't use a swapfile!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  microsoft, adaptec, scsi, windows, swapfile
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:44:00 GMT

	Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on how to get my setup running;
however, I had already tried most of them.  I DO load the ASPI driver first
into conventional memory.  I DO have the VirtualHDIRQ=off in my system.ini
file.  I DO have double buffering enabled.  I DO exlude the 16K ROM address
of my SCSI adapter from use by EMM386.  I am using the latest versions of
all the drivers.  I have to use ASPI or my JetScript driver won't load.
The last time I tried to use a swap file I had to reformat the hard disk
(major crash).  Why won't this work?  I paid more for major brand
hardware to avoid things like this, but I'm getting no help from
Adaptec, Microsoft, or Northgate (it's always a problem with the other
guys hardware/software).  Is anyone from Microsoft or Adaptec out there?

	I'm desparate and tired of restoring my hard drives. 

bryan

kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (VAX 9000)
bryan@aero15.tamu.edu (Sun 4/65)
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From: ckt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES KEITH TESSLER)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: using a mouse in a dos program whie it is a window
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:14:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I have been unable to find info on or figue out how to use my mouse in a dos
appclation while it is running as a window. I am using windows 3.1 and I have
hurd this is possible. Dose anyone know how? Help would be apprecated.
-- 

                                  Keith Tessler
                                  Id: CKT0@LEHIGH.EDU
                                  Tel # (215) 758-1364
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner)
Subject: Re: EMM386.EXE question
Organization: Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe (Germany)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:07:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.111207.2781@newstand.syr.edu>, ldstern@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Larry Stern) writes:
|> A hopefully simple question- when I installed Win 3.1, I used the Win 3.1
|> emm386.exe, since it supercedes the Dos 5.0 version.  When I checked 
|> memory, however, I found everything loaded in conventional memory, even
|> though I do have "Dos=high,umb" after "Device=c:\windows\emm386.exe ram" in my 
|> config.sys.  I changed the device statement back to "Device=c:\dos\emm386.exe
|> ram" and, sure enough, my umbs fillled up with TSRs and drivers.  What
|> gives?  Won't Win 3.1's Emm386 support UMBs?
|> 
|> 						-Larry Stern
|> 

Try 
	Device=c:\windows\emm386.exe noems 640 ram
                                     ^^^^^
(means: you don't get extended memory but expanded memory, into which your
drivers and TSRs can be loaded high)
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From: glallen@keurgraad.witchcraft.com (Gordon Lee Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: MWC BBS Etc.
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:35:38 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>Well, rn is a newsreader, and sdbm is a library of routines which is
>required by cnews.  Cnews, wnews, and gnews are all news agents.  Gnews
>is not really supported theses days, and wnews is probably easier to
>install than cnews.
>

OK, thanks for the reply.
From: glallen@keurgraad.witchcraft.com (Gordon Lee Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: MWC BBS Etc.
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:29:03 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>No, MWC doesn't give out news feeds.  Have you gone through the UUCP
>maps to find sites in your area?

How do you request the latest maps?  I've downloaded one from
Compuserve, but I don't know how recent or accurate it is.  Is
there a clearing house for these?

>There are 3 news agents and 2 news readers on mwcbbs.

I'm a neophyte to this, I assume a news agent just gathers the news
you want and the reader puts it together in an organized manner so
that you can easily reply?  I've downloaded RN and SDBM, but there
seemed to be a problem at the time...I don't remember exactly what
it was.  Which do you recommend (filename) and does it work with
version 4.0?

Gordon Allen
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: help with modem
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:07:30 GMT

LECTRICAMISH@DELPHI.COM writes:

>> > 0lLcom3r
>> > 1lPcolor0
>> > 1lPcolor1
>> > 1lPcolor2
>> > 1lPcolor3
>>
>>
>> Notice the first line here? I suggest you read the manual entry for
>> /etc/ttys, if this was its contents at the time someone tried to dial
>> in I'm not surprised nothing much happened.

>Well, if you mean the 0 at the beginning, the modem was disabled when i
>copied the file over, (why should it be enable, darn thing won't even
>work).  If you mean having the 'l' in the second polition and the 'r'
>and the end - that is what mwc tech support told me to put so i can
>have logins and dial out on the same modem.

Did they really told you?
Hm, I'm using 1r3com2r, and my system works perfectly with remote
logins and dial outs on my modem. Another one also have had problems
with a configuration like yours, after I told him to change the l to
an r his modem now works.
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From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: cnews utilities fixed and another problem found
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:13:05 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

root@duncan.UUCP (David John Murdoch at duncan) writes:

> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>
> >root@duncan.UUCP (David John Murdoch at duncan) writes:
> >
> >> But I have discovered that new directories are not created by cnews
> >> when a new newsgroup is received and it is explicitly listed in sys i.e.
> >> ME:news.future,news.sysadmin,...
> >> How do I turn on creating new directories when a new expected newsgroup 
> >> is received.
> >
> >Is the newsgroup in your active file (/usr/lib/news/active)? If not, use
> >/usr/lib/newsbin/maint/addgroup to create the group locally. If it is in
> >active, relaynews will automatically create the necessary spool directories.
> 
> Well, that's how I usually do it, but occasionally I'll get mail telling
> me that so-and-so@some.place had created alt.somegroup locally. When I
> look in my active file the group is entered but no spool directory has
> been created. 

Hmmm, interesting. Newgrp control messages don't create the spool directories,
they're created automatically by relaynews if necessary as messages are
processed (but addgroup does create the spool directory I think). Are you
seeing the messages for these articles ending up in junk, or not at all. I
suspect you're receiving the newgrp control message (because of the way it was
cross-posted) but your feed site is not sending you articles in the new
newsgroup. You need to ask your feed to add these groups to the sys entry for
your site.

						- k
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"Jub'f Xvob?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: COHERENT Users Interest Group of Atlantic Canada
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch at duncan)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:02:58 GMT
Reply-To: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root (David John Murdoch at duncan)



			A N N O U N C E M E N T

	Although there are only a handful of COHERENT users
that I'm aware of in the Atlantic Canada, I'm announcing the formation
of an informal COHERENT Users Interest Group of Atlantic Canada.

	With the recent release of COHERENT 4.0, a 32-bit version of
Mark Williams Company's US$99.95 UNIX-compatible operating system
I'm sure that the number of those turning to COHERENT for 
individual as well as business use will increase.

	Personally, I run COHERENT to learn the UNIX environment,
including programming in shell scripts and C, using fun utilities
such as awk and sed, play a variety of interesting games
and to receive netnews and e-mail from around the world at a
minimal cost.

	I'm interested in hearing from any COHERENT users and
from anyone in Atlantic Canada that would like to know more about 
COHERENT. I run COHERENT as a hobby and I am in no way connected 
with nor receive any benefit from Mark Williams Company.
	
Cheers,					Mailing Address:
					6162 Duncan Street,
David					Halifax, Nova Scotia
					B3L 1K2

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From: karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:32:31 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Karls Emergency Mailbox

bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger) writes:

> Okay, the beta for an installable news package based on wnews, vn and
> tass is ready to go.
>
> Question: How best to post? The compressed archive is 723343 bytes. I
> can uuencode and post to this group if no one objects. I can (and will)
> make it available on mwcbbs, but it will be a BIG download!
>
> Any constructive feedback is welcome!
>
My snail mail adress:

Dr. Karl Sarnow
Wittenberger Str. 82
W-3000 Hannover 1
Germany

If you give me your bank account number, I will wire transfer you the
cost for a 3.5" Diskette and mailing costs.

Thanks
Karl

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From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent 4 in the UK
Date: 13 Sep 92 09:51:52 GMT
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK

I've placed my order for Coherent 4 and I'm now patiently waiting
the 4-6 weeks until delivery. Something has just occurred to me,
though. Coherent will be set up for a US keyboard - shall I be
able to change the key assignments or is there an equivalent of
the DOS keyb.com/country.sys?

Thanks in advance,

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: ports to 4.0
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:34:34 GMT

sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol) writes:

>Wondering about status of the ports of Taylor-UUCP and ELM to Coho 4.0. Thanks

>*--TechnoGeek--*

Elm is running fine under 4.0, I'm using it for more then one month now.
Taylor is ported, I haven't tried it by my selfe so far.
However, last week I gave the Coherent port of Taylor-UUCP to a friend
of mine, who is running Linux on his system. Now he is connected to
my system with uucp, so I would say it is also running.
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