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From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sridhar and wpi
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:48:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: bigboote.1df79iINNf5q
Distribution: world
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
|> Ravi Narayan writes:
|> 
|> FBI STATUTORY WARNING NOTE: PARENTAL ADVISORY FOR PARENTS:
|> this law was applied, before this revision, was to quell the blasphemic
|> ideas propogated by an individual named Copernicus, at which time the
|> concept of a freedom or right to free speech was unheard of.
|> 
|>      Confoosion, Ravi, Confoosion. Sridhar is not gagging your right to
|> speech. He's just being humane to other netters and giving them a way of
|> exercising their right to NOT hear :)


	uggh!!! i hate to get into these logic-kinda wars but
	what the hell!!! where above my dear man do you read me
	as saying that "sridhar is gagging my right to speech"?
	all assumptions/connections you make based on my mention
	of copernicus, are your own! ;-) and hey what about my
	right to be heard??? not to mention my right against
	censorship! ;-)

|> redress their intellectual level being abruptly yanked higher.
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|>      hee hee :) Did your wpi mates do that to you? :)

	do what to me? abruptly yank my intellectual level higher?
	fat chance, expecting anything from my fellow "pri"mates!

|> tch,tch,tch.. frustration is showing, Ravi.

	and i didnt even say "i want to get laid" !!! geez, is it
	that obvious!!!


|> You forgot. Sridhar also mentioned a hunda-funda filter in his mail.
|> You know, He's a devil. Your supposed wiz-kids from Compi., frankly
|> speaking (Yo Cownan Subramaniam!), were just blown away by him.

	hey ever heard of load and sendmail??? crashing a system
	brings about greater satisfaction than just filling up a
	mailbox ... not that i would ever suggest that anyone
	should do anything as evil as that!!!

	peace,

	- ravi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: singhk2@lib103.its.rpi.edu (Kirpal S. Singh)
Subject: Re: IS KHALISTAN POSSIBLE?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:20:23 GMT

Why not??

Justify yourself.
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Re: The Sacred Thread..........
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:40:50 GMT

dharam@coyote.WPI.EDU (Dharmendra Khanolkar) writes:

#                                   JANEYU
#                                  ========
#	Now the question.
#
# I understood why there are three threads. but why is there a knot in the three
# threads which ties them together ? Does it mean that we have to have some Raj
# and Tam bound with Sat ? Why do we need to have the Raj and the Tam ? Is it 
# not that we are to try and keep away from these two things as much as 
# possible.... ?????
#

	Also, married men with no children have a pair of 3 strings and
	men with children have 3 3strings. 

	Is there an analogous arrangement for women ?

J Anand.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: Clinton's victory-in the Indian context.
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:30:05 GMT


In article <1992Nov10.165816.29138@csrd.uiuc.edu> ghosh@sp2.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:

>Does this mean America will never
>fight another war.  

Yadaa yadaa hi OIL-asya CRISIS bhavati Sanjay,
. . . . 
. . . .
. . . .         . . .      Yuddhami yuge yuge.

That is America's song.

In plain English, whenever the potential losses by not going to
war are more than the 1000-times exaggarated accusations of 
loss of life etc. you should expect America to go to War. 
Why America alone, most other countries would do the same.
Erstwhile Soviets did the same. British, French did the same
during the colonial era. 

The trick, if you are not American, is to avoid being at the
receiving end.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: parekh@spinaltap.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ashesh Parekh)
Subject: Re: emirates airlines
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:43:13 GMT

In article <keyush.721603086@depot.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> keyush@cis.ksu.edu (Keyush Shah) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone travelled by emirates airline before? I am getting a deal on 
>continental/emirates for trip to india. Before I buy the ticket I would 
>like to know how reliable the airline is.
>

My father has.  He thought well of the airline.

>thanks,

no problem!

>
>keyush shah

-Ashesh

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Graduate Student, Department of Computer and Information Science
Ohio State University
Use "finger parekh@spinaltap.cis.ohio-state.edu"  for detailed information
about my schedule.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Correction on a factual error
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:12:18 GMT

In <BxBv3J.4II@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:

>Mani Varadarajan correctly pointed out that Ramanuja was born 
>in Sri Perumbudur. Unfortunately I cannot locate where in my refernces
>I read his birth place as Tirupathi. However I could check out the varacity
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  There were no linguistic states when Ramanuja was there. Ramanuja' work
in sanskrit closely followed Namaazhvaar's work [ Reference: tamizh vEdaas
by Carman-prof of religion at harvard University]. tirupathi was built by
tamizh kings and even now there are tamizh inscriptions. 

>of Mani Varadarajan from Dr. Radahakruishnan's account of Ramanuja's life.

>I am extremely sorry for this factual error in my notes. Selvakumar
>can rightlyclaim that Ramanuja is a Tamilan, if he is hell bent on that.
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Facts speak for themselves. No one bends them.
>Incidentally Sriperumbudur is about 30 miles form Chittor and only
>a few miles from the broder of AP. Still it is Tamil...kt

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36727 soc.culture.indian.telugu:982
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: hydroceles
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:45:53 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

The FAFDA fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)

>you are the victicm  or you laugh...that is the way it is here
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>doode...... as i told you before life sucks.
>suresh
>	They never taught you Grammar, did they? :) If you would just read
>	less of that Bible (which anyway would'nt teach you grammar)...

does that mean that there are no other errors in the remaining part of
my post (like in 'doode') or you can't decipher one?

suresh
From: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (S.Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian Civilization
Keywords: Dravidians, Aryans
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:11:55 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <BxH5Iu.4Fw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
  >
  >     There was an omission of a word 'NOT' in my article and this is
  >      to correct the error. Sorry 

And I was so pleasantly surprised to see such a brief article by 
"C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering". He was merely correcting 
a word !

Reminds me of the following joke:

A woman had this nasty habit of talking regularly to her friends
over the phone for hours at length. One day she pleasantly surprised her
husband when she hung up after merely 15 minutes of conversation.

And the husband learnt later that she had called a wrong number.


S Ramakrishnan
From: nalini@uts.amdahl.com (nalini S. Allanki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: HELP -H1 -multiple entry visa - info - needed
Date: 8 Nov 92 09:08:56 GMT
Reply-To: nalini@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (nalini S. Allanki)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi folks,

	I would appreciate if somebody could provide the information 
	regarding the current requirements and strategic approach to get  
	multiple entry visa for H1 in MEXICO.

	I would further be glad to know the preferred locations I should
	try for this visa.

thanks in advance,
/nalini.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA)
Subject: Re: ATTN:STUDENTS IN OLD DOMINION, NORFOLK
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:34:25 GMT


I am looking for a friend who goes to Old Dominion in Norfolf.
Can some one tell me how can I find his email address?

Thanks.

COBRA

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From: aphilip@cbnews.cb.att.com (ashwin.k.philip)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Chinese Girls / or Indian Culture Among Youth
Summary: color confusion
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:02:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov4.233652.5227@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, kavuri@lips.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri ) writes:
>   Then why is that:
>    when there is a kid from a mixed origin he is never white ?

Because he isn't white! Once again, you are dwelling on color.  Anytime you
mix colors (regardless of human color..any type of color) you don`t call
the new color one of the old colors. What do yellow and blue make?
Anyway the point is that it doesn`t matter. Perhaps others might treat him
in a stereotypical manner dependant upon _their_ background, i.e. a yellow
color might call the y+b blue and a blue color might call the y+b yellow but
he should call himself green!

> 
>    white + black ---> almost white, is still called black.
>    Same goes for orientals or even desis.
>    It must certainly make these people as if they have 
>    been contaminated by something non-white. Thus, 1% contamination
>    is still contamination.

Why almost white? ho about almost black? white+black=mellato (sp?)
You seem to have this overwhelming desire (or want to make it seem as
if someone else has) to be white... that is not what I am talking about.
Will a white person ever become Indian? Even if 90% Indian, still not an
Indian... But a 100% white person (WASP) was to be adopted by an Indian
family and brought up in India as an Indian, he sure as hell would
take on every facet of an Indian except for the physical aspects he was
born with (He would even take on physical characteristics of Indians that
are established through environment)

> 
>    Why is that you call yourself an Indian American,
>    where as I do not often here the Italians referred to as
>    Italian Americans. So clearly you are more than 
>    "that Indian guy".  
> 
>    
>     SURYA KAVURI
> 
>     (FIAT LUX)
> 

Good question, 2 ways to answer (both quite trivial)

1) when I was younger I used to say my little brother was an American Indian
because he was born here and I was an Indian American because I was born there.

2) American Indian is already the common name for the native Indians.

So you see, it is just a trivial coincidence.


Of course the other thing is that all Americans that are not native i.e. all
Americans besides native Indians, have a discriptor before "American".
Italian American, African American, French American, Indian American, etc.

Americans without a descriptor generally are mixtures of the various     
descriptors and therefore are the essence of America (mixing pot).  The
only argument here though, are English American (not british... they are
called British Americans), who came here originally.  Then again, after
x generations, the descriptor probably dissapears anyway as your link
with your original country lessens and the link to America strengthens
(family links that is).

-- 
Ashwin K. Philip_________________________________Email:  philip@mink.mt.att.com
Software Engineer________________________________AT&T Bell Labs, Middletown, NJ
From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Food (Joke :-))
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:17:18 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.


        *****************************************************************
        During British Raj an English Commander of an Army Cantt. in  An-
        dhra  Pradesh joined a dinner hosted by the Jawans to celebrate a
        local festival. The menu was typically Andhra.

        The next morning at breakfast he commented to his wife, "Today  I
        have  discovered  why  the  bloody Indians use water in lavatory;
        toilet paper could catch fire"
        *****************************************************************

BTW : When I was in Bangalore this summer, I learnt that RR Plantain Leaf 
restaurant, a popular joint on Brigade Road, serving volcanic hot Andhra food 
is otherwise known as The "Roaring Rectum" restaurant.
		           *       *

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)  
Subject: Re: Ban on Doki to write anything on SCI
Originator: chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
X-Disclaimer: Blame it on the cat.
Keywords: Suresh Doki(?)....
Reply-To: Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)  
Fcc: log/outgoing
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:12:02 GMT

mpmehta@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Manish P. Mehta  ISE Grad) writes:

> Since many days I am reading to the net for some interesting news or topics
>but  I am fed up with all the personal  fights. So we should ban all such

Well, there's no one forcing you to read s.c.i., is there?

>articles on SCI. Also if it is possible some one should inform their systems
>manager to suspend their account or access to any nwes group.

Oh really? And why? Simply because _you_ think this person's articles
are stupid?  He probably thinks the same about you.  Learn how to use a
kill file.

I'm no Doki fan; but let's not be harsh on him.  After all he only uses
up a _little_ disk space in my kill file!

_________________________________________________________________
Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu                                 tat tvam asi

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36058 soc.culture.tamil:3319
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian History
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:10:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4eyJJqC00WBMM2V55e
	<Bx80KF.2DE@cs.psu.edu>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>for the posterity. Indeed Dr. Radhakrishnan goes to the extent of 
>saying that anybody who has not read Rg veda (and has not appreciated
>the poetic beauty of the hymns) cannot claim himself to be a vedanthist.

Me so stupid. Never knew the name 'Radhakrishnan' except for that Iyer'
relative back home. And what is 'vedanthism' Thank you. I'm doing fine
without it.

>Again in all matters of the relationship between the Brahman and the Self,
>it is the individual self to draw any conclusions that he seems fit
>in his pursuit of seeking the Brahman. So If Shankara comes and

Sorry, I'm not seeking a Brahmin. Does 'he' posses the power to impart
true knowledge? Or he just makes the 'native' to look up the Aryan
culture/race?

>says. That is the individuality of thought advocated by the Aryans.
>It is the essense of their their thoughts.

Aryans can think? I thought they worshipped fire and threw horses and
other animals into fire to please their numerous fire gods. And they
thought we were 
savages!

>That is the problem. If read Radhakrishnan he points out that Dravidians
>adapted the Aryan way of life (I think his sentence assumes full adaptation).

Like I said before, who is this sacred cow?

>He is simply a philosopher, albeit a compelling one. In historical
Yes. Highly questionable 'motives' in a compelling writing.

>takers. If I call it Aryavarta, then there are only takers
>because what we have in India today is the Aryan way of life.

You are summoned to Tribunal Court in Jaffna. Prabakaran will hear your
urgent case.


Thambi
***Thamilan enral, athu avamaanam illai. Perrumayai thalai nimirnthu nada!
Orruvanukum, nee thalai kunnikka vaendiya avasium illai. Eelamum Thamilagamun
uNn Naadu. Surthi irruKkum kadal, uNn illakiyam. Aal kadalil kappaloti
vaalnthavan ada nee.***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Govender)
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian history
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of the Witwatersrand
Date:  6 Nov 92 13:57:53 GMT

In <cey9m_200VBC83ZX4o@andrew.cmu.edu> ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes:



>In what sense is the Aryan invasion theory a myth and in what
>sense is it real ?

>As bearers of a language group that is spread through Asia and
>Europe, some people almost certainly came into India from the
>northwest.

>The usual claim is that these were the Vedic people -- i.e. composers
>of the Rig Veda.
>The other theory says that the composers of the Vedas were not
>Johny-come-latelies to India, but had been there for centuries,
>and had already begun assimilating into an Indian as opposed to
>an Indo-European culture (the Aryan Dravidian proponents call
>this Indian culture - Vedas = Dravidian).

>The whole controversy has new life because of the artifact found
>and dated to 4500-3000 BC.

>-arun

could you post some references please? i'd be grateful if you could email as
well as my newsfeed is rather erratic.

thank you
morgan govender
govender@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G)
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!!!
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:23:57 GMT

In article <BxF9Lx.Dy6@ucunix.san.uc.edu> ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>When Rajiv Gandhi became the PM he was a bit immature, angry
>he had lost his brother and now his mother, so maybe he said
>that.  That was wrong of him, I am sure he never meant it and
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in his rule I have never heard of him discriminating against
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Sikhs.  
 ^^^^^

Now, now, Mr Ghayalod, just _whom_ are you trying to fool ? 
It is common knowledge that when the enquiry commission that
was asked to look into the 1984 Delhi riots gave its report,
the Government headed by Rajiv Gandhi, not only did not take 
_any_ action, but also suppressed the publication of the report, 
saying that it would be detrimental to the "nation's interests"(sic).

And you are coming up with a preposterous explanation saying 
Rajiv Gandhi never meant what he said in his early days as PM!!!!
Please tell me, what else he should have done to mean what he said ?

There was also somebody else on the net who came up with an even more
absurd explanation that Rajiv Gandhi had just "gone cuckoos" 
for a while!!!! 

>Are you also annoyed with Manmohan Singh, afterall
>he is the second most powerful man in India.  Finance minister's
>post is the second in line to the PMs.
>

If you are trying to "prove" that Rajiv Gandhi was fair towards
the Sikhs and  are using Manmohan Singh's appointment as
Finance Minister to prove your point, then let me remind
you that Manmohan Singh became Finance Minister _after_
Rajiv Gandhi's exit.

[deleted]
...

>Tolerance and Unity is still the only anwser for India.
>

Add to that honesty, integrity, competence, sensibility, pragmatism
and above all, the willingness to place the country's interests above 
one's own or one's party's interests. If only our leaders had these 
qualities, these problems would not have arisen in the first place...

>Manoj
>>

Regards,

--Sudhi.

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From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: s
Date: 11 Nov 1992 10:17:42 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


> raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan) writes:
>> Doki writes:

Somebody mentioned you spend 30 seconds per posting. I guess
in this case it took that much time for you to pick a quote 
out of context and to spell hydroceles. 

-Raghavan,V

	:) He had to spend 4 mins. in finding the relevant entry in his
dictionary and another hour to figure out the meaning of Hydroceles. He lies
when he boasts about his "30 sec postings", not that he's averse to lying 
around with every Tom, Dick and Harry - no pun intended :)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:21:37 EST
From: <RKD100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RAMAJANMA BHUMI: AYODHYA-New Archaeological Discoveries
 <92311.123757RKD100@psuvm.psu.edu> <BxDMC2.Dv1@ucunix.san.uc.edu>

Raj Bhatnagar seems to think that Hindus need to defend"native" beliefs
etc.. for some vague reason.   If he's looking for reasons to run around
biting people that's his priviledge but the fallacy of the claim that
Hindu beliefs are more "native" than Islam appears demonstrable as follows:
If define: x IS NATIVE IF " it was born in India"
 then hinduism is foreign, the vedas having been born on the steppes and
being the religion of the aryans and what not...So raj should resign
his moral imperatorship and his position as high priest of the pure
native blood-line and submit himself to purification by the Bhils,
Gonds, Nagas and other original inhabitants of the country (so far
as I know, correct me if I'm wrong here.. who are are the pre-aryan
inhabitants I'm thinking of? (net-scholars help!!!)). On the other hand,
if define: x IS NATIVE IF "it was developed in India"
 implies that Islam as practiced by Indian Muslims is Indian too, as
their pratices are quite distinct in many ways from practiceselsewhere
so it is native as Hindusim.  Basically Raj is saying that he is a true
Indian all who are muslims are not.  I refuse to agree that this has
any truth value at all.   I have no problems with Raj's bigotry,
which is too well documented to comment on, just his schlocky logic.
The least he can do is show us some respect by being a bit more
rigorous in his argumentation of his bigotry.  Now that would be fun!
Not!  'nyhow regards and 'bye for now....
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