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From: cobe101@emory.edu (Christopher C. Chung)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Has anyone seen?
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:27:02 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Has anyone seen Stun Runner for the LYNX??


You if you have:

	1.)	How close is it to the real thing?
	2.) Graphics Good?

	etc.

Thanks

Chris Chung
From: kt12+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenichiro Tanaka)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: The Genesis is the Best System!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:55:34 GMT
Organization: Junior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I hate to get involved in YET ANOTHER system war but...

Why are you comparing the Genesis to the Lynx?  The Genesis is a console
system - of course it's going to have better technology.  But even then,
the Lynx does have its points (hardward scaling, portability).  If you
want to be fair, compare the Genesis to the TG-16 Duo or the SNES.  The
SNES has far superior graphics (more colors, more sprites, hardware
scaling/rotation, better resolution, no flicker) and if you count the
PC-Engine games, the Duo has the widest game selection.  SNES slowdown
is a dead issue because none of the newer games experience it despite
the outrageous amount of action on the screen (SFII, Space
Megafortress/Super Aleste).  But so what?  Deciding on the system you
want because of its hardware is pretty stupid unless you're going to
program the games yourself.

The software is what ultimately makes (or breaks) the system - I bought
a Genesis _despite_ its pretty lame hardware (64 colors?!  Blech)
because I liked some of the games.  Of course, people will disagree, but
I think it's pretty clear that the Neo-Geo is the best system
hardware-wise with the SNES a very close second.  But I _hate_ Neo-Geo
games.  And I can't play Robotron 2084 on a Genesis or Warsong on an
SNES or SFII on a Duo or Ziria II on a Lynx...you get the picture.  It's
the software that really matters.


Ken
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: A lynx observation, and -Neat article in AU robert!-
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:15:29 GMT
Organization: NASA GSFC

In article <Bw5Drq.Jsn@rahul.net>, wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson) writes:
> 
> now a question, Why isn't there more digitized sound? (course i do have the
> earlier games) 
> is digitized sound used better in the later games?
> the carts are what? 512k? why not compress a sample or two?
> (somebody tell me the sound gets better)
> 

Digitized sounds on the Lynx vary (as with any system), but there are at
least a few games that have better digitized voices/sounds and such then
any Genesis game I have.  Klax and Pinball Jam are two examples with very
clean and clear digitized sounds (especially Klax.)  Robotron has great
sound in that all the sounds are digitized straight from the real machine.
Of course, Robotron being an old game doesn't have the most astounding sound
effects, but the Lynx version feels more like the original because it sounds
exactly like it (there are some addition title screen tunes.)

Those are just a few examples.

Steve
From: wastrel@jotunheim.EBay.Sun.COM (William Osser)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx game prices
Keywords: Babbages
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:51:50 GMT
Reply-To: wastrel@jotunheim.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jotunheim.ebay.sun.com


I went to a mall near Philadelphia this weekend and finally found
Babbages (Having never seen one in California).  I was impressed
with the prices and will be searching in Software Etc. to see if
the prices are correspondingly low there.

For example:
Robotron 2084 -- $12.99
Gates of Zend.,
Crystal Mines II
Electrocop,
Qix	      -- under $20
(drat, either GofZ, CMII, or EC was $24.99, but I can't remember
which one cause I bought all three of them)

The selection was fairly decent, though a large number of the games
that I have been hearing about weren't there/were sold out.

Happy Hunting...
From: syped@orca.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Re:Look for games...
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:09:19 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska

Thank you for answer.
Couldn't reach you by mail...:-(
So, what about prices?
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: The sega genesis is the best by far
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:12:18 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

IK20073@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>      I have been reading all of your information about the Atari Lynx, and th
> Gameboy but you don't talk about the best system and that is the Genesis by
> Sega.
[...]
> It may not be portable but [...]

Hey, the graphics on a Photo CD system blow away the Genesis.

Of course, Photo CD may not be portable, and there may not be any games for
it, but hey, I still say you should sell your pathetic Sega Genesis and
upgrade.

Alternatively, get a clue:  I bought the Lynx because it was portable.  
OBVIOUSLY non-portable systems are going to have better graphics than
portables.  Tell us something we don't know already.


mathew
-- 
"Boy, they were big on crematoriums weren't they?"
 -- George Bush, during a tour of Auschwitz, 1987-09-28
From: IK20073@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: The sega genesis is the best by far
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:59:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


     I have been reading all of your information about the Atari Lynx, and the
Gameboy but you don't talk about the best system and that is the Genesis by
Sega.  While the Lynx boasts that it has "true" 16-bit graphics, it doesn't
compare to the Genesis.  The Genesis has a color pallet of 256 colors and can
display 64 colors at a time.  It has 8 sound channels with 2 exclusively
devoted to speech and voice.  With an extensive library of video games, far
more than the Lynx, the Genesis has the advantage.  Also with a CD-ROM
interface, which boosts the Genesis to the levels of the Neo Geo, the
Genesis now out does any home system; both in affordability and game play.
The resolution of the graphics for the Genesis out does the "blocky" effect
that the Lynx brings out.  Also now with a $99 price tag it costs less than
the Lynx.  It may not be portable but who wants to carry around such a bulky
portable system like the Lynx.  The processor of the Lynx is not 16 bit either.
  The Genesis has a 68000 processor that operates at 12 mhz.  So if you want
to buy the far superor system at a more affordable price, not to mention better
quality, buy Genesis.
From: erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: "Ill-fated" Lynx?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:06:27 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Oct13.014246.26381@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Bruce.K.Johnson@dartmouth.edu writes:
> Yes, we do have Atari's marketing department to fear (In the how many
> years that the Lynx has been out, only 750,000 to 1 million have sold).
>  BUT, something more encouraging, over half of those units have been
> sold in 1992 (Ithink that's the right statistic...).
This can't be right.   Batman returns sold >2,000,000 copies.  I didn't
buy one, so there are at least 2,000,001 lynxes out there.

I also vaguely recall a quote from an Atari PR-type person well over a year
ago (before I bought my lynx, which I've had for a year) claiming that 
>1,000,000 lynxes had been sold at that time.    I don't remember who or
where, so feel free to treat this as hearsay.

-- Erik
From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: CRUNCH>lynx<CRUNCH
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:26:15 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <92287.214636IK90103@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IK90103@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
writes:
>stores.  Needless to say it is obvious the order of systems, most popular to
>least popular is constant (at this time).  I found this interesting and did an
>informal survey.  Most found the GAMEBOY superior dispite its mono display.
>Some found that the screen was more acceptable for some games rather than a
>color screen.  The Game Gear second probably because of its late coming and
>smaller video library is an adequate system with a good entertainment value.
>The ill-fated lynx was explained to me as being something of a failure coming
>from a long line of flops by Atari(excluding the famous 2600).  With limited
>16 bit graphics.  The screen has a "blocky" look, not fluidic like other 16


I totally, vehemently disagree.  Video games are my main hobby.  I used to own
a Gameboy, and sold it because well, it totally sucked except for Tetris.  The
reason I sold it was to buy a Lynx.  The Lynx was just SO much better for so
little more money.  The Gameboy has a wide variety of games, but few of them
have originality or appear to have much effort put into them, or much quality
check.

If Gameboy and Game Gear are so popular, howcome they don't have their own alt
group?  There is a vectrex game group.  Usually the systems with the quality
games (whether popular with the general public or not) have a loyal following.
Expect many flames.

The one biggest way I've influenced my friends to like the Lynx is to play it.
Most people haven't.  It usually blows them away.  BTW, I've played the Game
Gear and hated it. The graphics weren't sharp and scrolling was very blurry.
The friend who owned it sold it to buy a Lynx, BTW.

I have even had more fun with my Lynx than with my (sold) NES or Genesis. The
thing that sets it apart in my view is QUALITY.  Too bad Atari doesn't have a
good advertising department.  Overall, I don't think you'll get a friendly
reception, especially after posting this to the alt.games.LYNX group!

Bobby Tribble  |8')
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
btribble@terapin.com
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson)
Subject: A lynx observation, and -Neat article in AU robert!-
Organization: a2i network
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:26:14 GMT

I noticed that lynx games, and the whole 'attitude' of the lynx, has been 
toward ages 14 and up. 

I hope never ever to find a lynx game with "a 
cutesy-hero/thingy-that-runs-jumps-to-the-right-stopping-every-five-minutes-
to-kill-a-"boss"-monster-that-takes-away-all-of-your-lives"
 
although I hear 'Toki' is like this. :(
I like the fact that atari(or their developers) aren't cloning mario/sonic
like the rest of the yutzes do on those platforms.
(actually I _like_ sonic.. it would be better without the 'bosses')



I just bought my lynx today matter of fact, i loooove it. 
i got slime world and gaunlet III, reminds me of Epyx's glory days in the
early 80's. 

they should remake Jumpman.. if not for nostagic reasons.

now a question, Why isn't there more digitized sound? (course i do have the
earlier games) 
is digitized sound used better in the later games?
the carts are what? 512k? why not compress a sample or two?
(somebody tell me the sound gets better)

Or am I expecting too much from my lynx? 
I've heard some good soundtracks on my old atari 8bit (Ultima 3 comes to mind) 
surely they could get at least that quality. 

heck, they aught to make a ".MOD" player and pass it around to the lynx
developers.

I heard _one_ sample on the GG, a 4khz chorus saying: "sega".
sounded as good as my old 8bit playing "material girl". ( for those who
remember that one)
for those who don't, it sucked.

Timothy "waiting patiently for Guardians:SoD" Wilson

-- 
Timothy Wilson <wilsont@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas)
Subject: "Ill-fated" Lynx?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:32:33 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

I was thumbing through the latest issue of _Amiga_Power_, a British Amiga
magazine. In this issue, they published the results of a reader survey,
and one of the items was "What other game systems do you own?" In the
section on handhelds, they reported "15% of respondents claimed owning
a Game Boy... a surprisingly large 11% have a Sega Game Gear... but
only 3% of you have bought Atari's impressive but ill-fated Lynx."
Just what do they mean by "ill-fated"? Is the Lynx dead in Britain?

-- 
__/\__  Jonathan S. Haas         | Jake liked his women the way he liked
\    /  University of Michigan   | his kiwi fruit: sweet yet tart, firm-
/_  _\  positron@engin.umich.edu | fleshed yet yielding to the touch, and
  \/    Marrou/Lord in '92!      | covered with short brown fuzzy hair.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: hilton@leechs.lzo.dec.com (Greg Hilton)
Subject: Re: Batman Returns tip...
Reply-To: hilton@bahtat.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Company
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:05:24 GMT


Tip needewd here!

At the end of level one with the big duck and the Joker
 sitting in it
what am I aming to kill, thwe duck, the Joker or either!!


Cheers,

Greg
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: djmccoy@netcom.com (Daniel J. McCoy)
Subject: Re: "Ill-fated" Lynx?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:41:40 GMT

Actually, the comment on taste in home computers wasn't that neccessary but 
the taste in game machines is quite obvious.  As an Amiga owner myself, I've
got my Lynx handy for road trips and total boredom at work.  If time permits,
there's three to four other Amiga owners I know that have Lynxs to link up
to.

My only problem is keeping up with the multitude of new games on the Lynx
and still feed my computing hobby.  :)

-- 
Daniel J. McCoy
Internet : djmccoy@netcom.COM or Daniel_J_McCoy@cup.portal.com
Is it me or does one always have to pump money into one's hobbies?
From: ega015@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Robert Edge)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx Games for Trade
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:15:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.


	I have Toki and Warbirds i'd like to trade.
	I would'nt mind APB,Hockey,Blockout,NFL Football or 
	some others i cant remember.

			Robert....
				ega015@comp.lancs.ac.uk
				ega015@cent1.lancs.ac.uk
From: IK90103@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: THE REAL CRUNCH
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:51:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Thank all of you dozens of people for responding to my letter
CRUNCH>lynx<CRUNCH.  I am doing research on video game preferences
and your help was greatly appreciated.  I found the best way to get
a true heart felt response was to piss people off.  Boy did I get
heated responses.  I got responses from all sides, supporting and
putting lynx down.  I was counting on that.  Each system has its
advantages and disadvantages.  I already Know that.  What I wanted
to know was a little more about the lynx and all three's popularity.
Again Thanks to all.......CRUNCH..................................
.....THE RESULTS...................SURPRISE.......................
Out of my (heated) survey GAMEBOY still came out on top for
popularity.  Game Gear and Lynx tied for second!
..................................................................
Also to the person who threatened my life after reading my article:
Your a stupid DORK for getting so mad over a video game!!!!!!!!!!!

I am also doing research on Star Trek: The Next Generation what you like
about certain episodes, best, worst..........THANKS
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: syped@orca.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: CRUNCH>lynx<CRUNCH
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:28:02 GMT

In article <btribble.1w9c@terapin.com>, btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) writes:
> In article <92287.214636IK90103@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IK90103@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
> writes:
>>stores.  Needless to say it is obvious the order of systems, most popular to
>>least popular is constant (at this time).  I found this interesting and did an
>>informal survey.  Most found the GAMEBOY superior dispite its mono display.
>>Some found that the screen was more acceptable for some games rather than a
>>color screen.  The Game Gear second probably because of its late coming and
>>smaller video library is an adequate system with a good entertainment value.
>>The ill-fated lynx was explained to me as being something of a failure coming
>>from a long line of flops by Atari(excluding the famous 2600).  With limited
>>16 bit graphics.  The screen has a "blocky" look, not fluidic like other 16
> 
> 
> I totally, vehemently disagree.  Video games are my main hobby.  I used to own
> a Gameboy, and sold it because well, it totally sucked except for Tetris.  The
> reason I sold it was to buy a Lynx.  The Lynx was just SO much better for so
> little more money.  The Gameboy has a wide variety of games, but few of them
> have originality or appear to have much effort put into them, or much quality
> check.
> 
> If Gameboy and Game Gear are so popular, howcome they don't have their own alt
> group?  There is a vectrex game group.  Usually the systems with the quality
> games (whether popular with the general public or not) have a loyal following.
> Expect many flames.
> 
> The one biggest way I've influenced my friends to like the Lynx is to play it.
> Most people haven't.  It usually blows them away.  BTW, I've played the Game
> Gear and hated it. The graphics weren't sharp and scrolling was very blurry.
> The friend who owned it sold it to buy a Lynx, BTW.
> 
> I have even had more fun with my Lynx than with my (sold) NES or Genesis. The
> thing that sets it apart in my view is QUALITY.  Too bad Atari doesn't have a
> good advertising department.  Overall, I don't think you'll get a friendly
> reception, especially after posting this to the alt.games.LYNX group!
> 
> Bobby Tribble  |8')
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> btribble@terapin.com
From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Some video game ideas
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:21:22 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Oct6.230742.19078@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
Bruce.K.Johnson@dartmouth.edu (Bruce K. Johnson) writes:
>
>
>Have any of you heard about BATTLECARS (or some thing like that)?  I've
>heard that this is a new game under development from an outside
>company.  Evidently it sounds real similar to the above proposed
>multi-player Battlezone type game; except that one drives a car that
>can be built at the beginning of each round.  A player can customize
>his car with armor, weapons, engines, suspension, etc. and then duke it
>out against other players and computers.  I'm psyched to see it come
>out -- some time near or after Christmas...

Hm, Driving Demons was rumored to be in development by Intense Gaming, but it
doesn't seem too likely, I haven't heard anything about them in over a year...
I don't know if that's what you're thinking of, though.  Also, Super Off Road
is probably not what you're thinking of, but Telegames is making it.

Maybe you're thinking of the Atari arcade Badlands (kinda a Super Sprint
spin-off...) and no, it's NOT the laserdisc arcade game...:) I haven't heard
any news of it for the Lynx, it is kinda fun in the arcade tho...

Bobby Tribble  |8')
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
btribble@terapin.com
From: IK20073@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Genesis
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:06:16 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I am writing this due to the response I got for my first two articles.  I would
like to say that I am sorry if I offended any Lynx owners by comparing it with
a system that is alot larger than it.  Second I couldn't find any other game
part in the netpost to write these articles in.
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Back to level 1 again?  You have to be kidding!
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:24:27 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

I'm interested in finding out which Lynx games have level codes to allow you
to start at some point other than the very beginning.  Nothing kills my
enthusiasm for a game like Batman Returns faster than having to wade all the
way through levels 1 to n every time I die on level n+1...


mathew
-- 
"... A socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to
 leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy
 capitalism and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson on Feminism
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: The Genesis is the Best System!!
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:16:22 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

IK20073@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>      The Sega Genesis is the far superor system.

It ain't portable, so it ain't an alternative to the Lynx.  You're wasting
your time.


mathew
-- 
"Boy, they were big on crematoriums weren't they?"
 -- George Bush, during a tour of Auschwitz, 1987-09-28
From: cobe101@emory.edu (Christopher C. Chung)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Would someone post all the games out.
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:29:22 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


WOuld someone post all the games available for the LYNX?

Thanks

Chris Chung
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Subject: Re: THE REAL CRUNCH
Originator: jmkaraka@c00078-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:25:25 GMT


|>CRUNCH>lynx<CRUNCH.  I am doing research on video game preferences

	You expect us to believe that?  Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!


|>Out of my (heated) survey GAMEBOY still came out on top for

	Sure, Communism was very popular there for awhile, that didn't
make it better.  



	-john 'you gotta be joking' karakash-
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Hello!
From: djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:45:52 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Hello,

	I bought a Lynx this past summer, and I love it!  I remeber seeing a
preview of the original Lynx about three years ago; I was impressed then, and
am even more impressed now that I've played one.  So far I have California
Games, Hard Drivin', Paperboy, Blue Lightning, and Batman Returns (via mail-in
offer).  Regrettably, I haven't been able to play it much, but I'm making it a
point to find more time now.

	Anyway, I was wondering what are some good magazines to read in order
to keep up with new games, etc. for the Lynx?

	Also, what kind of high scores have people gotten on California Games'
BMX, surfing, and half-pipe?  Just wondering how I'm faring versus the general
populace.

	Diamond Dave
From: wastrel@jotunheim.EBay.Sun.COM (William Osser)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Joust (Was Re: DEFENDER and Williams games (was Re: Genesis Shooters))
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:11:05 GMT
Reply-To: wastrel@jotunheim.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jotunheim.ebay.sun.com


In article 3l@rpi.edu, petitc@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
> In article <BLK.92Oct16110349@vanity.mitre.org>, blk@mitre.org (Brian L. Kahn) writes:
>   I LIKE IT!  Sounds way cool!  Sorta like Cavern Fliers.  That's actually a
> good name:  Joust III:  Cavern Flights.  Now, if we're really gonna get into
> the spirit of things, let's have things like this:
> 
>   Need FOUR players at once, all remotely linked.  Also, if we have a scrolling
> playfield, a radar would be really handy.
> 
>   How about placing a few 'shields' around.  These shields can deflect a
> Jouster if they come in close, but they're hard to find and you can't attack
> when shields are in place.
> 
What, do you suppose would be the purpose of having a shield if you can't attack
while using it.  Or, do you suggest that once you pick up the shield, you can
use either lance or shield.  I like this in some ways, but in jousting tournaments,
the competitors often use both.
 
Other than that, I thought your ideas were fantastic!