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From: Adriene@YaleADS (Adriene Nazaretian)
Subject: Re: Barney is not getting the press he deserves
Organization: Distributed Computing Services
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:47:18 GMT

In article <1gajmnINN3hf@cs.widener.edu>, c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird) writes:
> 
> From Joe Siegler, message Id <4576.1077.uupcb@satalink.com> 
> ^
> ^ ... However, another classic Barney line was way back in the first season
> ^ that went something like "Party upstairs.  You know, this apartment
> ^ complex caters to upstart young singles like myself.  <pause> BELCH!"
> ^ That one, and the other one from the first season that went "Homer, you're
> ^ even more of a pig than I am.  <pause> HUGE BELCH (leaning over the bar
> ^ table, then wiping mouth)" are two of my favorite Barney belches.
> 
> And who could forget this line from ``Blood Feud''?
> 
> ``I'm with you Homer!  Fight the Power!''
> 
> Yeah!
> -- 
> Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>


Ya know, I've always liked barney.  With the plow king episode, we learned
a lot about Barney which gave me new respect for him.  

first off, barney USED to a good student, ie he was headed for harvard until
homer gave him his 1st beer = "where have been my whole life"

question: I dont know how the hell he know linda ronstadt, but he was in a hot
tub with her and he made some mention of them wanting to do a project together 
for some time.

barney has respect for the after life:  when he is waiting to freeze to death
he says at least he'll be with his loved ones, mentions someone then one of
his plants he killed.

barney is ruthless.  ie the whole episode with him competing with homer.

We know his mother is alive, he sees her on the corner as he is chasing his 
diaper.

My favorite barney scenes overall include:

In the episode where lisa is in the beauty contest, when homer is trying to 
sell barney the ticket and barney has all the cash and homer asks where he 
got it "Some scientist.... Ever since they stopped testing on labratory 
animals, a guy like me can really clean up, BUurrrrrp."  he turns around
and has all these wires attached to his head.  Priceless moment

Also the scene where homer wants to fix up barney with one of marges sisters.
"I'm not a picky man, homer... Buuuuurrrrrrrp"

I can go on forever!
Later folks,  
Ciao, Adriene
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From: c8923075@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Subject: The latest updates to Widener's Simpsons anonFTP archive!
Keywords: simpsons ftp archive
Organization: The Springfield Public Library
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:45:38 GMT

I am pleased to announce that after a waaay too long a hiatus of
almost seven months, several people have seen to updating the
Simpsons anonymous FTP archive at ftp.cs.widener.edu:/pub/simpsons

If you haven't got access to anonymous FTP, all is not lost.
Write to archive-server@cs.widener.edu with a Subject line of:
                send simpsons faq               ... or ...
                send episodes 7f12 7f13 7f14

etc., and you'll receive a Unix shar(1) file in return.  (Note that
the case is important.)

By agreement with Raymond Chen, the attempts at episode capsules by
myself, Dave, Scott and Greg to cover for his lapses have been
suffixed with an `a' (for `apocryphal':)

And so without further ado, here are list of files that have been
updated since July '92:

/pub/simpsons
         3827 Dec  9 17:57 README
        11243 Dec  4 03:53 air_dates
        20620 Dec  9 01:19 episode_guide
        44575 Dec  3 00:12 faq
        41898 Dec  9 16:12 ins_guide
         7338 Dec  9 17:54 writers_directors

/pub/simpsons/episodes
        36410 Dec 10 12:26 8f18a
        16344 Dec 11 12:27 8f19
        35932 Dec 10 12:12 9f01a
        38951 Dec 10 12:11 9f02a
        35979 Dec 10 12:11 9f04a
        19226 Dec 10 12:18 9f05a
        17576 Dec  9 14:30 9f06
        15525 Dec  9 14:26 9f07
         4248 Dec  9 17:52 Index
         4248 Dec  9 17:43 README
       695195 Dec 12 23:23 episodes.tar.Z

-- 
Chris J. Baird,, Impoverished Undergrad  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>
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From: "derek finlay" <derek.finlay@canrem.com>
Subject: movie parodies
Reply-To: "derek finlay" <derek.finlay@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:18:27 EST

RH>>Actually, I thought the scene where Homer sees visions on the vibrating
RH>>chair was ripped off (or should I say, an homage to) the scene in 2001

RH>I think "ripped off" would be quite accurate.  Most of the so-called referen
RH>are actually rip-offs because the writers of this rag cartoon don't have eno
RH>talent to be original.

I have to disagree with you there! I think that these references to
past movies and shows which hold pleasant memories which I am sure
everyone holds dear enhances the show. When we see the "rip offs" of
things we've seen before AND they are done in an outrageous and
ingenious context! For example...Homer sitting in a vibrating
chair...and flashing back to 2001! Another reference is the parity to
Apocolypse Now in the episode when Bart and the children of Camp Crusty
take over the camp...and appoint Bart as their leader...and who went to
get Bart out...the THREE NIPPLED Crusty the Clown! Also notice some
references to "Lord of the Flies"....there was a pig head outside of the
hut that Bart was holding out in.

All of these references trigger memories of these past shows and conjure
up a wealth of memories which you can immediately incorporate into the
situation as it applies in the Simpsons.... truly the parities add much
to the show!

It also reminds me of life....if you've ever had a close friend and
sometimes share a inside joke you know the pleasure it invokes... I find
that the satirical references invoke the same fond memories!

Derek

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From: ami@leland.Stanford.EDU (Amitava Biswas)
Subject: Re: Mindless patriotic drivel
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 11:12:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.160358.16494@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:


>I think it's part of a pattern and quoted another episode, Itchy & Scratchy &
>Marge, which I think has the same pattern of expressing somewhat left-wing
>sentiments at first but then apologizing for them at the end.  I dislike this
>pattern and it has happened several times.


I recall hearing an interview of two of the writers (sorry, can't rememeber
the names, some Harvard guys) on Fresh Air with Terry Gross (National Public
Radio) in which they spoke about this very issue of beginning with a left-wing
thing and ending with a right-wing thing.

their point was that they wanted to show how silly the extremes of anything
can be, left or right. Concerning this episode (I&S&M), the wanton violence
in the cartoons is certainly uncalled for (it's a crazy thing, isn't it? IF
they actually made cartoons that were violent and NOTHING ELSE, they probably
wouldn't be very funny, but I&S is funny almost precisely BECAUSE it's not
funny...), but censorship has its down side too.

I do see the point you're making though, that if you always *end* on the 
right-wing message, even if it's patently silly (like Mr. Lisa/Washington),
it can give the implication that you are taking exception to. Perhaps they
should try it the other way around - starting with a right-wing message and
winding up apologizing for that.

Ultimately, though, it has no meaning. It's just a bunch of stuff that 
happened.

Ami
ami@leland.stanford.edu
From: mxsst1+@pitt.edu (Michael   Stroucken)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Snowball I
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:55:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Anybody know who Snowball I was and what happened to her?
MS
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From: ipgrier@compass.uwaterloo.ca (Iain P. Grier)
Subject: Re: Barney is not getting the press he deserves
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:49:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.191357.7523@leland.Stanford.EDU> wolf@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andy Wolfsberg) writes:
>In article <Bz3wKp.DJH@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> ipgrier@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Iain P. Grier) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec10.183403.4509@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923399@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>>Doesn't anyone want to talk about Barney Gumble?!?
>>>                 Allegra
>>
>>I think he and Letterman should be nicer to each other.
>>
>
>Speaking of nice, wasn't last night's show a bit on the "dark" side?
>I guess it made up for for the fact that there was not I&S
>
>- Homer is a man and Herb is his brother
>- Herb hates Homer
>- And he's not shy about expressing it
>
>But then it had that Tooooooo-happy-an-ending

What the hell does that have to do with Barney?

ObBarney:  "Hey look!  It's the President!"
	   (Barney's in Moe's Tavern in the _morning_ BTW) 

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From: ami@leland.Stanford.EDU (Amitava Biswas)
Subject: Re: Wyle E. Coyote, Super Genius
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:52:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.160650.8749@bcrka451.bnr.ca> jimdean@bnr.ca writes:

>Poster #2 knows of what he speaks...such a thing as Bugs Bunny
>substituting for the Road Runner does exist, and is one of my
>favourites...unfortunately I do not recall a title for you...I do
>remember that Bugs had to take vitamins to stay as fast as Road
>Runner. 		        ^^^^^^^^

Vitamins, huh? Uh, yeah, sure. :-)

Just like the "power pills" Underdog had stashed in his ring, right?

ami
ami@leland.stanford.edu

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From: "RAM DEMO" <rdemo37@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Barney is not getting the press he deserves
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:03:55 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

>AA|Doesn't anyone want to talk about Barney Gumble?!?
>
>I will.  Barney is my favorite character on the show.   Some of the 
>crap he says is absolutely hysterical.   I think his high point has 
>been "Mr. Plow".   He had the most to do in that episode.   However, 
>another classic Barney line was way back in the first season that went 
>something like "Party upstairs.   You know, this apartment complex 
>caters to upstart young singles like myself. <pause>  BELCH!"   That 
>one, and the other one from the first season that went "Homer, you're 
>even more of a pig than I am.  <pause>  HUGE BELCH (leaning over the 
>bar table, then wiping mouth)" are two of my favorite Barney belches.
>
>Of course, more recently, the Mr. Plow episode had two really great 
>Barney belches.   The Linda Ronstandt one and the belch that caused an 
>avalanche were truly classic!
>---
One of my favorite Barney scenes was in the "Flaming Moe's" episode when 
Moe's went upscale.  Barney checks out the salad bar and asks about the 
glass shield above it.  Moe informs him that it's a sneeze guard which 
Barney immediately tests.  Classic!
From: eam@mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ed A. Mills)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Barney is not getting the press he deserves
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:16:03 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <4707.1077.uupcb@satalink.com> joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)  writes:
>To: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU
>
>AS|Yeah, barney is a great character!  I do hope to see more barney character


My sister in Boston tells me that not only is there now a Barney doll out in
the stores - it's selling out!! So I guess he IS very popular~!!

Ed
From: ntraven@wuntvor.pillar.com (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: oh my gosh: a SIMPSONS BLASPHEMER!!!
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:50:34 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

     Part of the fun of the Simpsons is that it satirizes our society, our
culture, and everything else..  If you mistake parody for "ripping off," I
think you'd be better off watching "Full House," or, "Blossom."

NR

Here's to the Simpsons: the best written show on television today.


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From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: Marge's Pregnancy
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:20:24 GMT

David Clark (david.CLark@analog.COM) wrote:
: 
:  In some message ID unknown, Mike Hammond asks:
: 
: > ObSimpsons: Is Marge the first cartoon character to be depicted as
: >             pregnant? (She's the first that *I've* seen.) 
:   
: 
:  No. In the Flintstones, Wilma was pregnant with Pebbles. That's the 
:  episode where her mother came to stay with them (Fred & Wilma) and 
:  needless to say, Fred did not like it. I'm sure everyone knows the 
:  rest of the story.
: 

I always wondered when Fred and Wilma "did it" because they had separate
beds, probably because it was a family show. Nowadays, of course, the
Simpsons share a bed, more like the real thing.

Russ
From: GJOHNSON@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil (Grendel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Chalkboard Clip for 9F09
Date: 18 Dec 1992 11:25:32 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

In response to Raymond L. Gilbert's post of:

>Comments/Questions:
>
>What gives?  They cut the intro again this week!  When are we going to
>be able to expect a nice full intro *every* week?

I was lucky enough to see "Homer's Bypass" on video tape made from a satellite 
feed to the local station [Thanks Mr Fieszel !!].
	Bart's punishment phrase was "Coffee is not for kids."  As the phrase 
is repeated down the board, the writing becomes less and less legible so that 
the last line looks like scribble.  The chalkboard phrase that was broadcast 
for the Dayton, Oh area was "I will not belch the national anthem."  That's a 
good one too, but instantly recognized it as a repeated intro.
	The couch sequence was funny also.  When the family enters the living 
room, they have been pre-shrunk to the seat height of the couch.  The order of 
jumping/seating is Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa, and Maggie with Bart helping 
Maggie onto couch.  The humourous sight was none of them acted as if being 
that small was out of the ordinary.  High marks again for the creativity in the 
intros.
	I heard/read in conversation once, that the intros were being clipped 
by the local station to allow for more commercials.  To quote Bill Murray from 
the movie 'Scrooged': "OH MY GOSH, DOES THAT SUCK!!!"  I agree with Mr 
Gilbert's comment.  When will we see a full intro???

GJ
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From: SJOSEPHS@130.187.170.178 (STEVEN JOSEPHSON)
Subject: Re: Movie Parodies
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:54:04 GMT
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In <37911@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> hacker@shark.cis.ufl.edu writes:

> 
>    Is there a list of the movie parodies from the Simpson's? I've
> noticed parodies from Goodfellas, An Officer and a Gentleman,
> Raiders of the Lost Ark, etc. This last episode also contained
> a parody that I think was from the movie Brainstorm. 

Wrong movie.  Rent 2001 and watch the sequence where Dave Bowman enters the
monolith.  Brilliant take-off.
From: Bucky.Whaley@launchpad.unc.edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Marge Gets a Job: a nod to S. Gross?
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:33:39 GMT
Organization: The Lutefisk Watch

Tonight I watched "Marge Gets a Job" again and noticed that the retiree
who begs to be allowed to keep his job ends his plea with "I never married
and my dog is dead."  Perhaps this is an echo of the classic S. Gross 
cartoon in which a beggar stands, cup in hand, on a sidewalk beside his
prostrate dog.  The sign around his neck says, "I am blind and my dog is
dead."  (Callahan has paid hysterical homage to this cartoon with his "I
am blind and my dog is humping my leg.")

Aw, I dunno.


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From: cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [not about] Marge's Pregnancy
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:55:44 GMT
Organization: your service
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> So, trivia question for all you TV-fans:  Who was the first TV-show
> couple to be shown sharing the same bed?  

----------

Well, the Bradys shared a bed, but they sat bolt upright, 
several feet apart, with the lights on.

Don't know if they were the pioneers, though.
From: ffr@strider.UUCP (F Frank Rowe)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Wasn't it obvious ?!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:34:10 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: frank.rowe@adc.com

bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barrie Copeland) writes:
> I'm pretty sure I saw the three-eyed sperm.  I'm also pretty sure
> it was a dig at radiation effect on genes.

Jeez, wasn't this obvious?
I'm not trying to take a dig at Barrie here, it's just that I'm
continually amazed at how some things are immediately obvious to some
people, while ....

Other recent examples in this newsgroup:
The fact that Lisa's sax solo changes from show to show; the fact that
most communist countries boycotted the *real* olympics in '84 in LA,
just like in "Maggie's First Word"; and the fact that the president's
reference to his "22 million bosses" was *satire*, and not "mindless
patriotic drivel"!

I thought these were so obvious, they didn't even need to be pointed
out.  Of course, what scares me is the realization that there must be
some occasions where *I'm* the one who "doesn't have a clue".  Argh.  :)

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From: ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu (Jordan Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Homer's Nietzsche ref
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:49:33 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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I haven't seen any mention of the Nietzsche reference Homer made:

What does not kill me only makes me stronger, right?

(Ooooh, no. You're weak as a kitten!)

J
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (christopher j talbott)
Subject: Re: Continuity error spotted.
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:04:50 GMT

I hate to disappoint you, folks...but Fox only cares about continuity when
it's convenient or necessary to the current plot at hand.  Witness the
following examples from Fox sitcoms:

Get A Life (the Chris Elliot thing):  For a while there (after they'd
introduced Brian Doyle Murray) they were killing the main character off
EVERY episode...

Married...With Children:  Last season, Peg was pregnant, and so was
Marcy.  Yet, this season, no infants...

I'd suggest that you all just sit back, enjoy the show, watch for the
inevitiable references, and stop worrying about where Springfield is,
or the definitive timeline of the Simpsons.  It doesn't have to be
continuous to be funny, and in fact, it seems to me that disregarding
continuity makes for a funnier show.  Who CARES how Barney knows
Linda Ronstadt?  The mere fact that they've "been trying to do a
project together for a while" is funny in and of itself, especially
as a reflection of the "Hollywood attitude".

We've got more important things to consider about OFF...like whether
it was Bach or Franklin... ;-) ;-)

-Chris
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From: dkumasaw@oracle.uucp (Darren Kumasawa)
Subject: First and Last word??
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:29:34 GMT
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              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <Dec.8.21.21.50.1992.11614@gandalf.rutgers.edu> parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Parilis) writes:
>
>ITV Guide says something like "...all of maggie's lines will be done by
>Eliz Taylor..."  That suggests that there will be other lines.  Most
>likely, she recorded a bunch of lines when she was in the studio, to
>be added into episodes later...
>
>- Gary

Although that could be the case, we are absolutely not guaranteed that
there will be other Maggie lines spoken by Taylor in the future.  We are only 
guaranteed that the ITV Guide people think that Taylor recorded more 
than one line in the original studio session.  I'm sure the Simpsons 
people did not tell the ITV writers how many words, sentences, or 
monologues Maggie was going to say in this episode.  Because they did not
know what Maggie was going to say, the ITV writer wrote "...all of Maggie's
line..."

Darren


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From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Subject: Re: [9F09] Homer's Heart Attack DYNs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:55:06 GMT

>> When God told him he was going to die in 6 mos, was this really what he
>> was talking about?
>Dunno.  He started to rise up, but came back when the ham was mentioned.
>I figgered they'd do the "white light, long tunnel" thing, so maybe
>this wasn't it.
>
Am I the only one here who thought that God was making a joke when he 
said Homer would die in 6 months? I'm surprised people are still waiting
for it....

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From: st923399@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Allegra)
Subject: thanks
Reply-To: st923399@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:53:43 GMT

I want to thank everyone for talking about Barney. I had a laugh reading them
sitting here in front of the computer having people stare at  me.

      "I'm gonna make  you an omelet(BELCH)!"
                         
                      -Allegra
From: sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Movie Parodies
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:31:29 GMT
Reply-To: sbookey@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

There's plenty of originality.  Plus, the average viewer doesn't  have the insight

to half the homages, so I tend to find it that much more enjoyable when I know what

the movie is.
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From: aaron@eecs.nwu.edu (Aaron Feigelson)
Subject: Re: What a word! Poor Homer! (spoilers)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University, Evanston, Il., USA
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 05:41:38 GMT


How much did James Earl Jones get for "This is CNN?"