HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: Forwarding of MAC broadcasts
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:56:12 GMT

In article <9301071938.AA09078@kuwait.whizkids> billb%kuwait@sun.com (Bill Baumann) writes:
>VxWorks is causing problems by forwarding broadcast messages.
>
>Here's the deal : I have a development system that is broadcasting over
>FDDI to a specific IP address.  The IP address is a Unix box, and the
>FDDI MAC address is a broadcast.  I'm using the AP Labs driver.
>
>On my analyzer I see the broadcast message being retransmitted by the VxWorks
>based cage.  The messages are UDP/IP, so the Unix machine sees both the
>broadcast, and the retransmitted message.
>
>It appears to me that VxWorks is doing IP forwarding of broadcast messages.
>This is a definate no no.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this?
>
>Does anyone know how to turn this behavior off?
>
>Thanks BillB.
>

I ran into something similar just this morning. We are using UDP/IP
broadcast datagrams for one of our protocols. We have a multiprocessor
system in which each ethernet port is handling a different simulation
protocol (DIS, SIMNET, ...). I found that in the board with the non-
UDP/IP protocol, where my input hook would return any UDP/IP 
broadcast datagrams to the vxWorks's protocol stack, the other board 
was receiving the broadcast datagram twice. I thought the board was 
forwarding the datagram onto the backplane network and that's why the 
other board was getting the datagram twice - the original datagram 
from the ethernet, and then the same datagram forwarded over the 
backplane network. However, this post seems to indicate a more 
pathological situation.

My fix was to trap these bad boys in my ethernet hook input and toss 
them, but obviously this is not general purpose and somewhat of a 
kludge. 

This sounds like a job for . . . WRS!! :-)

Mike Healy

healy@nosc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: fmouse@wixer.cactus.org (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: What is the legal status of CP/M?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 01:11:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.053012.23019@coe.montana.edu> uesu03@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Lou Glassy) writes:
>Is CP/M in the public domain now?  Does DRI still own it?  If
>not, is anyone still actively developing it (CP/M) or still
>developing applications for it?

DRI was recently bought up by Novell, so you might inquire of them regarding
proprietary rights, etc.  Yes, there are a few folks still actively
developing stuff for CP/M, or actually for the upward compatable equivalent
of it, ZCPR34 which runs on the same machines.  There are a number of BBS's
around the world (known as Z-nodes) which feature ZCPR3 software and
exchange information with interested users.  CP/M has been religated to
pretty much of a hobby status, and most of the Z system folks are pretty
much like ham radio operators - the do it for fun and are enthusiastic about
it.  I run a CP/M BBS (Z-node #77) and am still an advocate of CP/M as an
educational operating system since it's pretty completely known and quite
transparent if you get down to studying it.  As one of my CP/M
correspondants said, "I studied MS-DOS to learn how applications work - I
studied CP/M to learn how computers work".  There is even a magazine - The
Computer Journal -which devotes considerable space to CP/M and ZCPR3 topics. 
I suggest you check on to Z-node #3 and explore.  The number is 617-965-7259.
Jay Sage, the friendly sysop thereof, also owns Sage Microsystems East which
markets a number of fine CP/M and ZCPR3 products, some of which Jay has
rescued from a one way journey to the ash heap of computer history.

I strongly suggest that if you plan to do any software development for CP/M
you contact Jay and others in the Z System community and make your product
ZCPR3 aware, since the improvements in ZCPR3 over DRI's original CP/M are
very signifigant and intelligent.

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-- The Roadie                       |            fmouse@wixer.cactus.org
		                    |                    * * * *
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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: lanceh@ecs.comm.mot.com (Lance Hall)
Subject: Where does this INFO-CPM digest exist?
Organization: base_stations
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:58:07 GMT

The subject is the real question... I have seen responses to
comp.os.cpm articles referencing the INFO-CPM digest but have
never seen the real digest articles themselves.

Clues anyone???

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From: eudoh@ST6000.SCT.EDU (Etop Udoh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Osborne floppy conversion....
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:24:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

hi,

   I have a tandy 4P with CP/M software which allows me to read numberous
CP/M formats with Osborne being one of them....and I've read Osborne disks
before - about 6 years ago....
  but anyway, I'm in your area I believe or somewhere near you and wouldn't
mind doing the conversion for you....

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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dwight A. Haworth)
Subject: Re: Can Kaypro's be made to read MSDOS floppies?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:29:00 GMT

Rick.Bronson@mixcom.mixcom.com  writes:
> Hello,
>   Is there a program for Kaypro II so that it can read MS-DOS
> floppies?  Also - what is a good modem program that will run
> at least a 1200 baud modem on a Kaypro II?
>   Thanks
>   Rick

The answer to your read MS-DOS problem depends on the kind of drives you
have in your Kaypro II.  If you have double-sided double density drives,
you should be able to use some of the public domain or commercial software
that is available.  If you have single-sided drives, you may be out of
luck.  I use Compat in my 4/84 with no problems.

Dwight Haworth
haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: uesu03@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Lou Glassy)
Subject: What is the legal status of CP/M?
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:30:12 GMT

For those of you who have been long-term CP/Mer's, a few
questions about CP/M:

Is CP/M in the public domain now?  Does DRI still own it?  If
not, is anyone still actively developing it (CP/M) or still
developing applications for it?

My reason for asking is this: I'm working on some software 
(a subset Fortran-90 compiler) that will run using a
pcode-interpreter program.  I'm wondering if it'd make sense for
me to eventually port a version of it to CP/M.

Just curious... The first micro I ever used was an Apple-2, c.
1979.  We'd look at that machine (w/ 48K of RAM) and think,
"Gee, who could ever *really* use that much memory!!!" :-)

Often I get the sense that despite all the hardware advances of
the last 15 years (many), and despite the software advances
(few), the things ordinary people really *use* and *need*
computers for, really haven't changed all that much.  I read &
hear regularly how GUI's make people more 'productive' (whatever
*that* means), and trade rags commonly try to sell me the idea
that I need a 15 ziloMIP box on my desk with enough RAM on board
to sink the Titanic...

Is there still a market for CP/M machines and software?  Has MS-DOS
(+MS Windows, +IBM OS/2, + ??) made CP/M obsolete? Or just raised
everyone's expectations so much that CP/M couldn't compete? 

(You know, the line that you'll just DIE if you don't get
256-color VGA with razzle-dazzle mouse-button thingumbobs with
your checkbook balancing program...)

Ciao --

Lou.
-- 
Lou Glassy (uesu03@giac1.oscs.montana.edu)                  Eccl. 9:10
From: mmorgan@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Michael Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Morrow MD-11 woes
Date: 6 Jan 1993 23:48:43 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucc.umass.edu



Hi old-time CP/M'ers!  I try to rarely spend time on Usenet (too much
else to do, and Usenet can be too addictive), but it's nice to see a
CP/M group here!

Anyway, I used to use a Morrow MD-11 (at the time of purchase, circa
1984, it was far more powerful than just about anything else out
there); I haven't used or needed it for some years, but I've recently
wanted to pull some old files off of it (most of them in LBR format).
Trouble is, the old thing just won't boot.  I get a "Data Not Found"
error regardless of whether I try to boot off the hard disk or an
original distribution floppy.

Unfortunately, I put all the manuals I had out in the recycling bin
some months ago, so I can't just look up the answer to my dilemma.

In any case, does anyone have any suggestions?  Does anyone know which
jumpers to change to conduct diagnostics on this lovely dinosaur?  Or,
if the problem is the disk controller (which seems likely), does
anyone have any suggestions whatsoever as to how it might possibly be
fixed?

I'll try to check this newsgroup, but private responses would be
especially appreciated.

Thanks in advance, and cheers to those keeping the CP/M flame,

Michael

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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,rec.arts.int-fiction,comp.sys.cbm
From: gbr@bisco.kodak.com (Bruce Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Infocom
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 19:16:09 GMT

In article <1if6nvINNemc@CS.UTK.EDU> jfarmer@cs.utk.edu (JOHN FARMER) writes:
>
>Some time ago I read in rec.arts.int-fiction about Infocom, but unfortunately
>I don't remember much of it.  I know that Infocom was bought out and then
>shut down.  What is the legal status of Infocom games?  When (if ever)
>will they be available via public domain sources?  Are there still sources
>for purchasing them?  Thanks.
>
>Susan
>
>-- 
>Susan B. Farmer     farmer@cs.utk.edu     Lady Jerusha Kilgore     
>I can't even find time to clean house and you want me to come up with a .sig?
>     And now she wants to go back to grad school after 14 years .....  
>     We'll let her out when the delusion passes.


Mediagenic has re-released a package of 20 Infocom games, under the package
name of "The Lost Treasures of Infocom".  It is available at most computer
stores for about $50-$60.  I got mine at Electronics Boutique over a year
ago for $53.99.  At that time, only the IBM-PC version was available.  I assume
that the Mac version is now available.  There was a duplication problem in 
one of the 3.5 in. diskettes, long since fixed.

The props/documentation are all presented in a bound softcover book (except for
the complete maps of the games), as well as a hint book.  There is a (rather
kludgey, IMHO) installation front end that was added on (by virtual
"volunteers", from what I heard about the time and money they were given ;-).

While the props and original boxes are not there (and thus taking a bit out of
the self-imposed "fun"), the games are all there and intact.  It was great to
travel down memory lane.

From an old post by Chuck Greenwald, Sept '91:

-----------------------------------------------------------------
...

The twenty games are:

MYSTERY             SCIENCE FICTION
  Deadline            Starcross
  Witness             Suspended
  Suspect             Planetfall
  Ballyhoo            Stationfall
  Moonmist            Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

ZORK                MYSTICAL
  Zork Zero           Enchanter
  Zork I              Sorcerer
  Zork II             Spellbreaker
  Zork III
  Beyond Zork           HORROR

ADVENTURE             Lurking Horror
  Infidel

This is all of the Infocom games through 1986, except Cutthroats, Seastalker,
Fooblitzky, AMFV, Wishbringer, Hollywood Hijinx, Trinity, and Leather
Goddessses.
It also includes one each from 1987 and '88.  There are still some copies of
Leather Goddesses in stores.  I guess the other 8 were not very popular.

  ... and Hollywood Hijinx is one of my favorites!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chuck Greenwald                     |   chuckg@meaddata.com
Mead Data Central                   |   (513) 865-1020

-----------------------------------------------------------------


And hey, $50 for *20* Infocom games - can't beat it with a coupon!!

Cheers,

Bruce 
rodgers@kodak.com
From: rwyble@schunix.uucp (Richard J. Wyble)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: Misc CP/M and S-100 questions, if you please.
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:06:30 GMT
Organization: SCHUNIX Public Access Unix for Worcester County, MA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

schriste@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Christensen) writes:
:
: 1. Re: Warm Booting. I know some programs expect that the OS will
: 	be "warm booted" when they end. Does that mean I have to keep
: 	my system disk in drive A:?
: 
: 2. Can I ever copy a file from a second disk to a third disk by starting
:       . . . . .
: 	it if I didn't have to keep the CP/M disk in A:
: 

Yes, CP/M wants to warm-boot to its A: drive. The easy solution is for
you to make *all* of your discs bootable. The system tracks are
reserved for this pupose, so doing so will not take up extra disc
capacity, as in DOS. They, any disc will do!
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 schunix!rwyble@transfer.stratus.com         Worcester, Massachusetts
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From: secrist@msdsws.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Need XMODEM/Kermit for Osborne/1 ?
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:53:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Anybody know where I can get ASM source for XMODEM or Kermit for
an Osborne/1 ?

Regards,
rcs

Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: serkowtk@ss1.af.mil (Tom K. Serkowski)
Subject: S-100 Boat Anchor for sale
Reply-To: $HOME@ss2.sews.wpafb.af.mil
Organization: U.S. Air Force
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:29:53 GMT

I stopped using this computer about 4 years ago & haven't turned it on
since, so not sure if it works.  I almost threw it in the trash when I
moved to Ohio, but decided there may still be someone out there who
wants it.  The minimum bid is cost of shipping.  If I get any offers,
the highest bidder will get it on 1/31/93.

	XOR 12 slot <HEAVY> enclosure
		12 amp @ +8v
		 6 amp @ +- 16v
		 4 floppies
	2 SSDD 8" drives, several boxes of disks/software
	Compupro:
		DISK 1
		Interfacer 4
		CPU-Z 6mhz
		64k static RAM
	Visual 200 terminal

Tom Serkowski
tks@cw3.sews.wpafb.af.mil or tks@cray.com
Dayton, OH
(513)426-4964 (home)
(513)252-2457 (work)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: fmouse@wixer.cactus.org (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: .lbr???? Anyone?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:41:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.220114.2364@daimi.aau.dk> u920659@daimi.aau.dk (Carsten S|rensen) writes:
>As I'm a complete newbie in cp/m ... I'd like to know what the extension
>.lbr is? I guess it's some kind of archive but I haven't had the luck to
>find an unarchiverfor it. Where can I get it (ftp)? And which sites have
>a lot of cp/m stuff?

The .LBR format is an archive format without compression used frequently for
bundling of CP/M program components which are usually compressed before
being archived.  You will want to look for the programs LU, NULU, LGET,
DELBR (or DE-LBR) or LT (Library Typer, also capable of extraction) to
extract files from a LBR archive.  If the files within the LBR archive have
the filespec *.?Q? you may well need the progrum USQ or UNSQUEEZ to
uncompress the component files.  If the files have the format *.?Z? you will
need UNCR or UNCRUNCH to uncompress them.  SIMTEL20 used to have an
exhaustive catalog of CP/M public domain utilities available for ftp.  If
you are in the US, there are a number of bulletin boards which specialize in
CP/M software.  I suggest you contact Jay Sage's BBS at 617-965-7259 for a
good selection.


-- 
"Everything works if you let it"    |                Lindsay Haisley
-- The Roadie                       |            fmouse@wixer.cactus.org
		                    |                    * * * *
	                            |               Austin, Texas, USA
From: harold@daffy.cac.washington.edu (Harold Bobroff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Getting Kermit onto Kaypro II
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:45:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ispq9INNqh7
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington, C&C
NNTP-Posting-Host: daffy.cac.washington.edu

Greetings CP/M folks.  Having bashed my head against this for a while with
zero success, I now turn to you net.experts for advice.

I'm trying to bootstrap Kermit-80 4.11 (I think - it's the current stuff
from Columbia, at any rate) on a Kaypro II running CP/M 2.2 .

I've no file-transfer software for this beast at all, just a wretched
terminal program called TERM that sort of emulates an ADM 3A.  Following the
instructions in cpskerm.doc, I carefully typed into DDT the capture program
from the kermit distribution(cpkfet.ddt), saved it, logged into the Unix host
with the hex files, changing the prompt to '@' as expected by the program, and
entered 'cat cpskerm.hex' minus the CR.  I then exited TERM program and ran
the capture program, but (surprise) nothing happened, nothing at all.  No modem
activity whatsoever, which would seem to indicate that perhaps the program
isn't talking to the right device?  But that's just a wild guess, since I'm
almost completely CP/M clueless.  I believe IOBYTE is ok; at least I didn't
consciously do anything to modify it.

Alternatively, I could just type in all the .ASM sources and assemble it
myself, but ASM is the only assembler I've got, and apparently it won't cut
it for building Kermit.  No .ASM source for LASM is provided with the
Kermit stuff, only a .HEX, and I can't imagine trying to type that in.

So, I'm open to any and all suggestions(aside from converting the machine
into a doorstop, that is).  E-mail would probably be best, but posted replies
are fine.  Thanks much in advance!

   Harold					harold@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: shad04@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: Can Kaypro's be made to read MSDOS floppies?
Summary: Let me count the ways...
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:03:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.155832.15171@mixcom.com> Rick.Bronson@mixcom.mixcom.com (Rick.Bronson) writes:
>Hello,
>  Is there a program for Kaypro II so that it can read MS-DOS
>floppies?  Also - what is a good modem program that will run
>at least a 1200 baud modem on a Kaypro II?

According to my list, SIMTEL-20 has these files available via
anonymous ftp (I don't have a Kaypro, so I can't vouch for them):

DSKUTL:RDMS233.LBR     39808 8605 Reads/copies files from MSDOS disks
DSKUTL:RDMSDOS.LBR     10752 8604 Read/write MSDOS disks on CP/M sys.
DSKUTL:READ-PC.LBR     11392 8707 Read MS/PCDOS disks on CP/M
DSKUTL:TRANSF12.LBR    79872 8612 Transfer files to/from MS/DOS disks
FILCPY:MSWEEP.LBR      28544 8604 Copy files to/from 8'' CP/M & MSDOS
KAYPRO:TRANSKP4.LBR    41472 8607 Transfer files between CP/M & MS-DOS

>>> Dan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: schriste@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Christensen)
Subject: Misc CP/M and S-100 questions, if you please.
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:43:28 GMT

Hi,
	I have some CP/M and S-100 questions, so I thought I'd make
one post with many questions. I'd appreciate if anyone who knows the
answers could send me mail.

1. Re: Warm Booting. I know some programs expect that the OS will
	be "warm booted" when they end. Does that mean I have to keep
	my system disk in drive A:?

2. Can I ever copy a file from a second disk to a third disk by starting
	PIP and then removing my system disk and putting on the two disks
	in A: and B:?  I've tried this and my system locks up. I can PIP
	from B: to my system disk in A: and vice versa. I would really like
	it if I didn't have to keep the CP/M disk in A:

3. I recently got some space S-100 cards. I would like to hear from
	anybody who has the same hardware for some interface questions.

	a. HDC-2001 Hard Disk Interface from Advanced Digital Corp -
		what kind of HD's will this work with? Can anybody
		share BIOS modifications, maybe for a CCS system?

	b. Advanced Digital "Super SIX" single board S-100 computer.
		Any comments?

	c. A 48 TPI 5 1/4" disk - has anyone interfaced one with
		a CCS FDC?

Thanks for your help (in advance),

		Steven Christensen

-- 
Steven V. Christensen
schriste@uceng.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: Osborne1 disk translation help
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 18:35:06 -0600

Curt, leave me a phone number and I will try to get intouch with you, I

can translate the sssd to ssdd or even IBM format with my osborne 1.   
                      Charles Cotham

                      2205 Lilac St.

                      Nederland, Tx 77627

                       

                      409-727-6156


Xref: sparky comp.os.cpm:1551 rec.arts.int-fiction:1155 comp.sys.cbm:5341
From: haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dwight A. Haworth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,rec.arts.int-fiction,comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Infocom
Date: 7 Jan 93 06:19:19 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Just found a set of 20 of Infocom's games in MS-DOS form for sale at my
local Wal-Mart.  Cost less than $40 for the set.  Clearly they are still
owned and sold.


Dwight Haworth                  | "... I arrive at the conclusion that however
haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu        | a systems problem is solved -- the solution
                                | is wrong, even dangerously wrong."
                                |              C. West Churchman

-- 
Dwight Haworth                  | "... I arrive at the conclusion that however
haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu        | a systems problem is solved -- the solution
                                | is wrong, even dangerously wrong."
                                |              C. West Churchman
From: sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Kaypro Machines and Parts
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:43:48 GMT
Organization: The Internet


   I have tried to respond directly to "godel!oscsf@news.pgh.wec.com", who
posted a message that appeared in the INFO-CPM digest asking about acquiring
a Kaypro II computer.  My messages keep bouncing.  Could you please send me
direct email (SAGE@LL.MIT.EDU).

   For others reading this, I still have lots of Kaypro parts available.  I
stripped down two machines so far.  I've got power supplies, video supplies,
motherboards, and keyboards.  There are more machines that can be stripped
down as well.  I would like to reclaim the room in my basement that is
serving as a Kaypro warehouse and also get this equipment into the hands of
people who can put it to use.

   Quite a number of people responded to my earlier posting.  It took me a
while to find the time to strip the machines down and get messages back to
them.  Everyone should have heard from me.  If you haven't, please send me
mail.  I would especially like to hear from the person who wanted the K10
hard disk, which is ready to be shipped.

-- Jay Sage