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From: mandayrv@ucunix.san.uc.edu (The Karate Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: F1 visa
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:53:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Hi folks,

I have a few questions for the VISA gurus. My sister had recently applied
for a visa at the bombay consulate. She was rejected on the grounds that her
financial statement, which was for about Rs 5 lakhs, was not good enough
even though the university had requested only for about Rs 3 lakhs. Another
reason mentioned was that her(and mine too) dad was retired. She was asked
to prove some more about her intentions not to stay in USA. She did not 
mention anywhere that she had a brother in this country. 

She subsequently applied after about a week with some more financial resources 
to back her up but this time also she was refused. She was then given a
letter by the consulate agent that she could not apply for another VISA for
the next two years. 
 
 My question is:
How serious are the consulate about the two years wait. Will they really
object if my sister applies again in the next few months. Granted that two
years is not such a long time, but she has already been delayed for about
four years now and I would like to get her here on the double.


Thanks for your time and replies. You may send me email or post your replies
on the next.

Thanks once again,



-- 
  mandayrv@ucunix.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Subject: Hindu/Buddhist Riots
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:02:36 GMT


Anyone know what the status is of the Hindu/Buddhist fight over a
temple in Bihar ? 

Looks like it's going to become another Babri Masjid/Ram JB thing 


regards
waseem
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From: kishore@argo.rice.edu (Ananda Kishore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: On the birth of Andhra Pradesh (was Re: I HATE TAMILS)
Date: 21 Aug 1992 15:19:53 GMT
Organization: Rice University

October 1, 1953 was the correct date. Sri Sri wrote:

aanDhra raashtra janma_dhinam
aktoebaru fastu
adhi thvaraloe varalu viSaa
laanDhraaniki trastu

...

karnoolae raajaDhaani
kaavadamadhi sthuthyam
marnaadae kaangiraesu
poevadamadhi sathyam

...

prajaa_svaamikam paerita
padhavulakai poetee
paripaalana caesae_dhika
poeleesula laatee

He seems to have coined the word 'fastoebaru' for this important
date...He wasn't happy that Karnool was made the capital. He also 
wrote:

aanDhra_manthri_vargam pani
kaarambham eppudu?
karnooluku haidhraabaadh
kadhali_vacci_nappudu

ee manthrula hayaam_loena
raama_raajya_meppudu?
padamati dhikkuna sooryudu
poducu_kocci_nappudu


in 'sipraali', 1981, Houston. (Later published by virasam)

['sipraali' is abbreviation for 'siri siri muvvalu', 'praasa
kreedalu', and 'limaRkkulu'.]


kishore
From: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com (Jayesh Kamdar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need accomodation near Univ. of Denever
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:50:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Originator: kamdar@granite.ma30.bull.com



	Hi Netters,

	My friend is coming here at University of Denever this fall,
	whithin couple of weeks. She is looking for some accomodation,
        She would prefer to share an apprtement with Indian or DESI
	female. So please let me know if any body has room or apprtement
	to share. Thanks in advance

	Jayesh

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 14:53:53 EDT
From: Shinjinee Sen <SSEN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,dc.forsale,rec.travel.air,
Subject:    OW TICKET DC-CLEVELAND-ROCHESTER 8/16 for sale

I have a one way ticket from DC National to Rochester NY via Cleveland (on
Continental) to sell. The date of flight is 16 August, leaving DC at 10:46
(yes, the Metro starts at 8 am on a Sunday), arriving in Cleveland at 11:58,
leaving Cleveland at 12:37, and arriving Rochester NY at 1:45. The ticket is
economy-class. This is the first leg of a round-trip I bought. I need the
return part, but I want to get rid of the tickets to Rochester or Cleveland,
rather than see them wasted.

I paid $208 RT for the ticket (though the face value is lower - bought from
a discount place). The ticket is non-refundable, but it may be possible to
change the date of departure (as long as you leave before August 27 (the date
of the return). Changes cost $25.

The going rate for a OW fare to Rochester is $200 and up.

The ticket can be used by a male or female, but owing to my name, Asians -
Chinese, Thai, Indian - are preferred (just if they check).

If no one is interested, all that happens is that Continental benefits. I
am willing to entertain all reasonable offers.

Please e-mail me with your offer, and your phone number. I will get back to
you ASAP.

CAVEAT: I live in Washington DC and have no car. I am currently working on
a project, so any buyer will have to meet me Friday evening or Saturday.
But think of the savings from the $200 fare!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ST402804@brownvm.brown.edu (S.L.)
Subject: Air-India
Organization: Brown University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:12:53 GMT


I had an intersting experience on Air India going to Delhi last December. I
flew in from Boston to be told that the flight had been cancelled. But they
advised us to check in and identify our baggae so that we could walk in and
board the next day. I believe that people flying to Europe were put on other
airlines. Of course, the lines hardly moved and one waited three hours in line
to be able to check in. Since this was peak travel time, all hell broke loose,
and I must confess that some passengers deserved to have been tied upand
gagged for the remarks they were making. One of my suitcases from Boston had
got lost and one gentleman fro Air India was extremely helpfun in letting me
look for it every 15 minutes in the storing area. Everyone was exhausted and te
sty but they put us up in a resonably okay hotel for the night, and allowed eve
ryone to make one call to India and three within the U.S.. The staff at the che
ck-in were very patient, may I add, but the higher-ups seemed to me a bitmore
intolerant. Well, I guess a jumbo-load of irate passengers can rattle anyone.
The next day, our flight was combined with the Bombay flight and we were told
we were flying to Bombay only after we took off from Heathrow! They then put
  us on another flight to Delhi, which dveloped technical problems and turned
back to Bombay and then the pi,ot decided to go to Delhi anyway. Anyway, one re
ached Palam/ IGIA about 30 hours behind schedule. My one suitcase was not
recovered until three days later. It was never put by NorthWest on my initial c
onnection. Air India had tofly an empty airplane from London to JFK to
accomodateall passengers on the second day. This made news in the Delhinewspa
pers, especially as Indian Airlines was having a strike at the same time, and
it's Chairman was fired shortly thereafter. Also, the flight was carrying sever
al VVIPs, including former Cabinet etc, so security was obnoxiously tight, but
somethingone has learnt to put up with. My experience was bad because of the
things which were in not any particular persons responsibility. Individually,
most Air India staff are okay, but the system is so ineffciently designed and m
anaged, no one can salvage it if there is a hitch. So things rapidly go into
orbit if there is one snag, in a sort of chain reaction.Well, this was more
a news report rather than an opinion. One wonders, though, whether things
could have been different , if the organization was managed differently.

--S.L.
From: avr@cs.purdue.EDU (Andrew V. Royappa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: voltage converters for running Indian appliances in U.S.
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:36:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

Hi there. We recently brought over an Indian food processor (Sumeet)
and are now trying to locate transformers/converters to allow us to
run this appliance here. It is a 400W appliance, runs on 230V/50Hz AC.
Electricity here in the U.S. is 110V/60Hz. 

I have been able to locate transformers that step up 110V to 220V (they
cost about $60-$70). However, I'm not sure if this is enough, and am not 
willing to find out the hard way. Does anyone have any experience with
running Indian appliances here ? If so, please send me some mail. I am
particularly interested in the names of stores, preferably in the
Midwest, that stock converters (voltage + hertz) for this specific purpose.

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. If you live near 
W. Lafayette, Indiana, and help us in acquiring a satisfactory device
allowing us to use the food processor, we will even invite you over for 
a tasty meal cooked with its help!

			Andrew V. Royappa
			{pur-ee,decvax,ucbvax}!purdue!avr
			avr@purdue.edu
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Biodegradable Indian Bowls for Olympiad.....
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:14:54 GMT

		Coconut Shells, Highly Popular

	With the environment-conscious people of the West yearning for things
natural, coconut shells are becoming popular as a hygienic alternative to the
plastic containers around the world.  The easy biodegradability of the shells
has impressed the  Catalans, the  hosts of the  XXV Summer Olympiad, and they 
have ordered some 600,000 bowls shaped out of coconut shells from Kerala. The
bowls exported under the ageis of the Kochi-based Coconut Board by three pri-
vate  entrepreneurs, are  to be used  for serving ice cream  and salad to the 
participants of the world's largest sport extravaganza.

	Xavier  Riera  Figueraf, General Manager of  the Kamerex, the company 
which was contractedby the COOB to see that these unique serving bowls reached 
Spain  in time, said, "It is less expensive than the other  varieties that we
considered.  But more than that, it is unique and typically Indian."

Thanks: A Vinod
	The Sportstar, Aug 1, 1992
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Subject: Looking for Sunil Aswani of Malviya Nagar, New Delhi, India
Summary: Looking for Sunial Aswani of Malviya Nagar, New Delhi, India
Keywords: Looking for Sunil Aswani, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi, India
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:13:32 GMT


	I wanted to post this only for India, but I don't think I can.
	But anyhow, I am looking for Sunil Aswani of Malviya Nagar,
	New Delhi.  If someone on the net knows him, please let me
	know and if you would be interested in forwarding mail to him
	from me, etc.  Any help would be appreciated.

	Thanks in advance

	Deepak (e-mailid: giand@opencon.com)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Reposted from ACKerala: Sari
Summary: Reposted from ACK.
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:20:43 GMT
Expires: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:00:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.185015.2550@seas.smu.edu> pillai@seas.smu.edu (Krishnakumar B. Pillai) writes:
>
>In reply to the question on the origins of the sari..
>
>
>The Sari is, contrary to popular notions, not totally Indian.
>It was first worn in public by the greek wife of Chandragupta.
>Chandragupta was married to Helen the daughter of Menander, one
>of the generals of Alexander (Sikhander). What Helen wore in
>the court of Chandragupta was an adaptation of the Greek robe
>that one gets to see nowadays only in the opening ceremony of
>the Olympics. The dress caught on quite fast since it was popular
>among Greek women in India. And the sari acquired a tinge of
>aristocracy since Greek women were much sought after, as royal
>concubines in those days.
>Ref: Malindapanho (The story of Menander)
>     or any of Prof. Joseph Campbells works.
>Best,
>Kris. Pillai
>C.S,SMU,Texas.
>=======================================
>Forgive me for I do not know what I do!
>=======================================


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: ngopalas@ha14.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: What a Shame !
Organization: The University of Alabama
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:52:28 GMT

In article <l95taeINNsg6@skat.usc.edu>, sramacha@skat.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> [SCT's posting criticisms deleted] 
|>
|> 
|> 
|>   * We like postings about equality. Write about equality in temples and
|>     priesthood, but not in schools and workplaces. Unless ofcourse if you
|>     are fond of getting death threats.

Equality is a very relative term. What is being practiced today is a witchhunt. 
They are literally being hounded out of Tamil Nadu. Not to mention the rude
and mocking comments that they get at market places, and other public places.
I remember my old grandmother who wears a traditional dress being made fun of
at a bus-stand by some party members of a certain well-known party. I was too
scared to even say anything because they looked like a very rowdy bunch. I had
similar experiences at a few other places. It is no wonder that there is a large
exodus out of the state to places where they will not be persecuted.  

|> 
|>   * We encourage terrorist news. If you  read any news about terrorists
|>     killing innocents, post immediately. Even if you don't, feel free
|>     to cook anything up. We relish such stories.
|> 
|>   * We urge you NOT to respond to articles which do not articulate our views.
|>     For your convenience, we will remind you of this whenever such
|>     articles get posted.
|> 
|>   * WARNING: This group is NOT soc.culture.indian.tamil. We are Tamils first.
|>     And Tamils ONLY. You are forbidden from posting any articles even remotely 
|>     concerned with the relevance of Tamil in Indianness, or vice-versa. We'll 
|>     rush to the nearest match box if you post such an article."
|> 

If I remember correctly, SCT is not for Indian Tamils only, but Tamils from all
over the world, so this criticism is unfair. 

|> Clap.Clap.Clap.
|> 
|> This very well seems to be unwritten charter for this newsgroup. Who are 
|> these brain-dead who seem to think (it is another matter how the brain-dead
|> can think) that they own this (SCT) newsgroup ? And what gives them the right to
|> preach what types of articles ought to be posted, and what not ?
|> 
|> Well, I asked a few honest questions. It is unfortunate that this discussion
|> erupted into an inane flame war. Some of the ones who weren't in it mailed
|> me some excellent, balanced opinions. Thanks again guys. 
|> 
|> Did I find any answers here ? You bet. If at all Tamils are disliked in the 
|> rest of India, it is only because of a handful of bigots with parochial 
|> viewpoints such as the ones here who believe that they own SCT. 
|> 
|> What a shame !
|> 
|> Sudarshan (Flames welcome at : ramachan@usc.edu)
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>
From: towfiq@nighthawk.clearpoint.com (Mark Towfiq)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Reply to Kamran's Post on Scientific Religion
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:24:54 GMT
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corporation


  Ravi, you raise an interesting point.  When considering the four
criteria which Kamran has put forth as the standard to judge whether
something is true, namely:

1) senses,
2) reason,
3) scripture,
4) inspiration

  I think the fundamental point to consider here is that all of these
methods, when used alone, are faulty.  For with the sense, we can
"see" a mirage; we can reason things that are not true, and only
discover it later; since scripture depends on our faculty of reason,
we can mis-interpret it; and our gut feeling can often be predicated
on selfish motives, not a search for the truth.

  I think once this basic fact is accepted about these methods of
finding truth, we realize that any of them can be in conflict,
including the example you called into question, namely, when one's
reason contradicts an explicit text.

  This is where the notion of CHANGE comes in.  For, when you find a
contradiction between any of these four methods, it is then that the
real work begins, as you must go back and re-question the steps which
led to the contradictory conclusions.  In your example, you must both
re-examine your reasoning as well as re-examine the scriptures, and
then proceed to examine your gut feeling and what you perceive, in the
hopes of breaking the deadlock.
--
Mark Towfiq, towfiq@Clearpoint.COM			      H:+1 617 488 2818

O SON OF MAN!  Bestow My wealth upon My poor, that in heaven thou mayest draw
from stores of unfading splendour and treasures of imperishable glory.  But by
My life!  To offer up thy soul is a more glorious thing couldst thou but see
with Mine eye.
		-- Baha'u'llah, Arabic Hidden Words, #57
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: saify@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (saify.lanewala)
Subject: Knock-Knock jokes, anyone?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:14:27 GMT
Keywords: Knock-Knock, joke

Hi.  While reminiscing with a few friends some days ago, came across
a knock-knock joke, desi style.  Here it goes:

Knock Knock
Kaun hai?
Mehmood
Mehmood kaun?
Mehmood mein nahin hoon

Knock Knock
Kaun hai?
menaka
menaka kaun?
menaka mehmood mein nahin noon


Any one remember more?

Ciao

Saify Lanewala
stl@usl.usl.com
From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A Correction to My Reply To MarK
Keywords: Arindam, Science, Religion
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:32:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Earlier I wrote :

  In my previous post, I may have been a little abstruse. Let me put
  my disagreement with Kamran's views differently. Suppose X is a 
  statement about the Ultimate Truth that is in agreement with all the
  criteria (1-4). Is X true ? Kamran says YES. I claim NO. IMO, I can


The last sentence should be corrected as

  criteria (1-4). Is X true ? Kamran says YES. I DO NOT have sufficient
  reasons to say YES. IMO, I can say that X is true only if


Hope that doesn't create any confusion
Ravi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Indian Olympic Hopes
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:36:42 GMT

I think India should petition the IOC (International Olympic Committee) to
have kabadi a medal sport.  God knows India will only win a medal if 
kabadi is included in the Olympics. I suspect India would probably have a
tough time winning a gold medal in kabadi.

Rakesh 'The Vegetarian' Patel
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ars Poetica...
Date: 15 Aug 1992 15:39:00 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug14.193428.7621@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@htlv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>>>> PS. Sure it isn't Mr. Ed?
>>>
>>>Can't be. Mr. Ed was a horse, not an ass.
>>>-Raghavan, V.
>>
>
>Raghavan's retort is quite witless.
>He's shown that his brain is the dimmest.
>No creative thought
>From him could come forth.
>And all because he has a limp-wrist.
>
>Ed

Here's how Sthan would react to your earlier posting:

Mine wont rise because I am sick,
I need professional help real quick,

However my tounge and finger can do the same trick,
As I showed Raghavan when he had the gall to call me a prick.

Samit


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: trivedi@curie.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi)
Subject: Re: India successfully launches missile
Organization: Enrico Fermi Institute, University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:10:33 GMT

crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>Now "successfully" as used here is highly subjective.  For example Mr.
>Chatterjee would probably define a successful launch as one that destroys
>Pakistan, Bangladesh, and selectively removes all Muslims in India.
>Successful to Tamils would be destroying northern Indians, and vice-versa.
>Anyone can launch a missle and have it fall harmlessly somewhere, success is
>destroying an intended target, or something close enough.

Oh no,
a really successful missile would steal other people's land for you;
kill most of them;
then write songs like "this land is your land, this land is my land";
locate and bring slaves to work that land;
then make sure they are never empowered, 
thus giving the "poverty pimps" a parmanent political role;
destroy the Black families;
and destroy the White families;
create a nation of teenage single mothers;
and a nation of homeless;
and a nation of unemployed;
and a nation of sexually-abused children;
.
.
.
and automatically compose idiotic articles.
---
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: Curious observation,: Pibroch
Keywords: Pibroch
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:19:37 GMT


The Pibroch:
I got this defn. straight from the horse's mouth or should I say my 
online webster....

pi.broch \'pe--.bra:k, -.bra:k\ n [ScGael piobaireachd pipe-music] : a set 
   of martial or mournful variations for the Scottish Highland bagpipe

This time I believe what I say and what I say is not wrong.

(Don't remember references to pibroch in PGW. Bah!! American Beer ! It brings
on amnesia. Got to get those ol' PGW's out from the attic)

Srinath
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