From: rpowers@panix.com (Richard Powers)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: My turn to rant.
Keywords: life sucks. maybe?
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:59:49 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Nov8.181251.25435@midway.uchicago.edu> jaffray@math.uchicago.edu (Alan Jaffray) writes:

>>Romance?

>Maybe trying to meet women in other ways would improve chances of 
>finding someone atypical, trying to be friends first and later something
>more needs more patience but is more likely to find someone who isn't
>just out for a thrill (i.e. looking for a dangerous man).

Of the two people I would consider my closest "friends", one is female. 
She is the one I had in mind with the "I don't think of you *THAT* way!"
quote. 

>Coming from me, though, this is pure theory (of course).

Oh?


>>Work

>Another thing to consider is that most jobs, in this nation and this
>time period, are 40 hours (or so) per week.  There are 168 hours in
>a week.  This is significant...

~40 hrs at work + ~10 hrs travel time  out of 168 - ~60 hrs sleeping (more
like 70-80 for me) leaves ~60hrs.  Factor in misc. lost time from lifes
everyday inanities, and you're easily spending half your time at work.  I
think this is also significant...



>For a specific (though petty) example... One of the ways I enjoy wasting
>time is by listening to a group called The Orb.  I've bought all the CDs

Just an aside here: Bob Marley and The Orb?  Strange combo!  :-)



>What you're talking about are two things, a) the past (which is over, 
>though it may not feel like it), and b) hopes for things which could
>improve your life, but which you aren't attaining now and can't see
>happening in the foreseeable (key word, that) future.  Even if you
>don't think your life now is worth living, (a) is not going to get
>any worse, and (b) is a reason to keep living, actually... i.e. if
>you've gotten close enough to having a date that you think you'd 
>enjoy it, it's possible that sometime it could happen, and that's a
>reason to continue on... the game may not be playable, but you can
>try to change whatever you can...

a) The present is defined by the past.  There are always things that are
going to stay with you.  Those things ARE relevent.

b) The future isn't exactly rosy red for me (understatement of the year);
without a job, and with the house I'm living in going to be sold, I'm
really afraid of whats going to happen.  (Thats only one of many things I
have to deal with right now.)


>Admittedly this is all a matter of perspective, and it's a hell of a
>lot easier to see things this way when you're feeling relatively good.
>If you ever do, write it down...

Let me say something about this and about this thread in general.  You hit
the nail on the head saying this is a matter of perspective.  Don't get me
wrong, there are days when I believe my friends are great, I could get a
girlfriend easily if I would just put a little more effort into it, a job I
like will eventually come my way, etc., but those days don't happen often
enough, or for long.  Thats not to suggest, though, that I didn't mean
every word I said.  I don't always believe every part of that, but those
thoughts are never completely gone for long.  And I do believe that what I
wrote, is, in at least some sense, true.




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