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From: MONICAM@library.lib.rmit.EDU.AU (Monica Marshall)
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Subject: Wais and Gopher
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:13:13 GMT
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Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L. Thanks, Dana

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I've been using the network for only 2-3 months,
and know that I've learnt a lot by just reading the many
mail messages, questions and answers but am still
somewhat confused by the concept of WAIS and gopher.
I am certain I will be flooded with answers but could
I be directed to where to find explanations on both of these
utilities and also how to install a copy of each on
my computer.

Thanks (in anticipation!!)

M.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:58:10 CDT
From:         SLIB1121@vega.selu.edu
Subject:      Re: Instruction videos for CD-ROM use

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I think subscribers to the list would be interested in hearing results
on this!  Would you share with the list?

Many thanks,

Denise Landry
Reference Librarian
Southeastern Louisiana Univ. Library
Box 896
Hammond, LA  70402
From: kclelan1@cc.swarthmore.edu
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Subject: Re: October Internet Hunt
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:15:20 GMT
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        I hope you will post answers to the current hunt after the
deadline.
        #10, especially,  would be good to know.  I'm not yet a channel in

        the Gopher warren, so I'll abstain from the chase for the time
        being.  Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:14:21 CDT
Reply-To:     "(Rich Zidonis)" <ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
From:         "(Rich Zidonis)" <ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
Subject:      CJLI (commands-job feature)

----------------------------Original message----------------------------


In a recent mailing, Bob Strauss asked for more information of the
listserv search feature known as CJLI.

A CJLI manual can be obtained by sending the following to
listserv@asuvm.inre.asu.edu

send listjob memo


--
RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:15:43 CDT
From:         "Institute for Global Communications" <researchdesk@igc.apc.org>
Subject:      What to tell 'em in Vienna?

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear Friends:

In a few weeks I have the enviable chore of introducing faculty members at
the University of Vienna (Austria) to the "Wide World of Networking."
Although Austria is very much connected to the Internet universe, its
faculty are still very much in the "dark ages" about new technologies.  My
job is above all to *excite* them in a non-threatening way about these
technologies.  You know the story, I'm sure!

What I need from my cyber-colleagues is:  What would *you* do if you had
to turn on skeptical professors (with diverse backgrounds) to the
wonders of the online world?  Please email directly to me.  If you have
any speeches or others materials, I'd love to see them!

A bit of background on me:  I speak German, know Austria very well, so
that's not a problem.  I also was Director of PeaceNet (igc.org) before
coming to the Department of Politics and Society here at UC Irvine.

Thanks so much!  Howard

-------------------- Howard H. Frederick, Ph.D. -----------------
---------------  Department of Politics and Society  ------------
--------------    University of California, Irvine   ------------
---  Voice: +1-818-568-0994  Email:  researchdesk@igc.apc.org ---
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:32:03 CDT
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Re: Dead Trees and Humanities

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Yes. . .I am sure this conversation can truly be labeled R.I.P.

Paper books will be with us forever, no matter what the cost/benefit ratio
electronic books can provide students, scholars, authors and researchers--
and the new generations will look back on computers and electronic text as
a passing fad.

Even when the value of the facsimile editions can be preserved, reductions
in the cost of graphic etext will allow the cost for such etext editions a
more or less equivalent price a decade or so later than the Plain Vanilla,
even then, the draw of paper will be irresistable, with the smell, texture
and general "look and feel" we have come to associate with knowledge, with
scholars, and with authoritative editions.  This is why we still build all
our courthouses, banks, capitol buildings, etc. in architectural style and
rendering of buildings built several thousand years ago.

Modernism:  the very fact that the modernist trends have never even had an
authentic name is symbolic of their passing. . .after all, movements can't
change the world without ever drawing enough attention to themselves to be
given a name.



=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu

COPYRIGHT 1992 PROF. MICHAEL S. HART, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
THIS MESSAGE MAY NOT BE COPIED WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:10:31 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Bellcore

2 Messages, 58 Lines
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From: january@donner.cc.bellcore.com (Amy Wang @ Bellcore - Library Network,
 Piscataway, NJ)
Subject: re: Bellcore

In response to the recent message from Maryly Snow

        >> At the Lita conference in Denver I described
        >> to several people a panel on visual databases
        >> and imaging that I am trying to put together
        >> for ARLIS in San Francisco in Jan 1993.  Two
        >> people suggested that I speak with Dennis Egan
        >> of Superbook/Bellcore, because he might be
        >> able to discuss new directions in (computer)
        >> image recognition.  I have called the 800 number
        >> twice and had one person, not Mr. Egan return
        >> my calls.  All in all I have gotten very
        >> strange vibes, like
        >> I'm treading into top secret security-clearance
        >> territory...

I don't know what number you used, but it sounds like you ***may***
have reached a document ordering line; the service representatives are
trained to be very careful about what they say, since some of the
documents/information they handle is company-proprietary.  And SuperBook
is a product available for sale; the person you talked to may not have
understood exactly what you wanted.

        >>...Does someone know how I can reach
        >> Mr. Egan directly?  Does anyone know what is so precious
        >> and territorial at Bellcore? Is Bellcore a "babybell"?

Bellcore is the research & development arm, a wholly-owned, non-profit
subsidiary of the 7 "Baby Bells."  Since it develops products exclusively
for the "Baby Bells" and its other clients, Bellcore's work is proprietary.
(Maryly, I'll forward your message to Dennis Egan so that he can contact you.)

Amy Wang
Bellcore, 6 Corporate Place, Piscataway, NJ 08854
Internet: january@donner.cc.bellcore.com
Fax: 908-336-2231      Voice: 908-699-3360
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From: Ann KELSEY <kelsey@pilot.njin.net>
Subject: Re: Bellcore

Bellcore is the research and development arm of the Regional Bell
Operating Companies (RBOC's).  It was created during the AT&T
divestiture process and provides the same services to the RBOC's as
Bell Labs does to AT&T.  I have heard of Superbook and know several
people at Bellcore, so I will inquire as to how to contact Mr. Egan or
if another person might be more appropriate.  Secrecy/territoriality
tends to go with any R&D operation, and Bellcore is no exception.

Ann Kelsey
kelsey@pilot.njin.net
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:20:06 CDT
From:         "J. KEITH OSTERTAG" <OSTERTAGK@SNYCORVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Searching listserv message databases

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We have found searching the PACS-L message archive/database to be very helpful
for information on topics discussed in the past. Can anyone point to a list of
other library related bitnet lists which can be similarly searched?

Evidently not all bitnet lists are archived, and one must be subscribed to a
particular list in order to search its message database.


================== J. Keith Ostertag ======================
                Access Services Librarian
                    SUNY- CORTLAND
                OSTERTAGK@SNYCORVA.BITNET
                      607-753-2528
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:51:29 CDT
From:         ALA Washington Office <NU_ALAWASH@CUA.BITNET>
Subject:      House passes HR 5983

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HOUSE PASSES HR 5983

The House of Representatives passed HR 5983, the Government
Printing Office Electronic Information Access Enhancement Act of
1992, by voice vote on September 29.  The bill would establish in
GPO a means of enhancing electronic public access to a wide range
of federal electronic information.  GPO is directed to establish an
electronic directory of federal electronic information and to
provide a system of online access to the Congressional Record, the
Federal Register, and other appropriate publications distributed by
the Superintendent of Documents.  The directory and the system are
to be made available to depository libraries without charge, and
the fees charged to everyone else "should be set so as to recover
the incremental cost of dissemination of the information involved."
The Superintendent of Documents is also required to conduct a study
of the feasibility of enhancing public access to federal electronic
information.

ACTION NEEDED:  Urge your Senators to support HR 5983 when it comes
to the Senate floor in the few days remaining of the current
session of Congress.  Ask these key Senators to do everything they
can to pass the bill:  Mitchell (D-ME), Majority Leader of the
Senate; Ford (D-KY), Majority Whip of the Senate and Chair of the
Senate Rules and Administration Committee (the Senate Committee
with jurisdiction over the bill);  Stevens (R-AK), ranking minority
member on the Committee; and Dole (R-KS), Minority Leader of the
Senate.  Tell legislators how important it is for their
constituents to have online access to publications like the
_Congressional Record_ and the _Federal Register_.

Please thank Representatives for their support of HR 5983.
Particularly thank Rep. Charlie Rose (D-NC), Chair of the Committee
on House Administration, for his leadership on this issue, and
Reps. William Thomas (R-CA) and Pat Roberts (R-KS) for their
efforts.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Anne Heanue             *  Bitnet    NU_ALAWASH@CUA                 *
* American Library Assn.  *  Internet  NU_ALAWASH@CUA.EDU             *
* Washington Office       *  Phone     202-547-4440                   *
* 110 Maryland Avenue NE  *  Fax       202-547-7363                   *
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:58:55 CDT
From:         KAUFMAN%ATHENA.DECNET@UTHSCSA1.BITNET
Subject:      SerialsQUEST users

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am interested in communicating with SerialsQUEST users who have successfully
used the Internet for connecting to ABACIS.  Please send your name and internet
   address along with telephone number to:

Claudia Kaufman
Microcomputer Services Librarian
UTHSCSA
Briscoe LIbrary
7703 Floyd Curl Drive
San Antonio, TX 78284
512-567-2397
512-567-2400
fax: 512-567-2490
KAUFMAN@UTHSCSA.edu

Thank you.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:14:27 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Candidate's Speeches

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From: "James Milles, SLU Law Library" <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Candidate's Speeches
The Democratic and Republican materials are also
available on the University of Maryland CWIS, called INFO.

Telnet info.umd.edu.  You then have a choice between the
"info" interface (which allows you to transfer the
documents by ftp), or the "gopher" interface (which sends
the documents by e-mail).  Either way, this is an excellent
system!

James Milles <millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu>
Head of Computer Services
Saint Louis University Law Library
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From: Paul Jones <pjones@mento.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Candidate's Speeches
We've WAIS indexed all the Clinton and Bush speeches and registered the
sources with the directory of servers at think.com as well as made the
files available for download via anonymous ftp at SunSITE.unc.edu.
Additionally we will be releasing special WAIS clients for Windows to
query the Clinton and Bush speeches very soon. These clients will feature
pictures of the candidates with a visitor from outer space who wants to
know about their positions...

*=============================================
       Paul Jones
       Office FOR Information Technology
       University of North Carolina
       Chapel Hill, NC
       Paul_Jones@unc.edu
 Self-determination for Kernow, Alba, Cymru, Eire, Mannin, and Breizh
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From: Simon Spero <ses@sunsite.unc.edu>

You can ftp the files from sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/docs/speeches.

Simon
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From:         FLICK@USCVM
Subject:      Re: Candidate's Speeches
Send a message to listserv@marist.
Text of message: subscribe bush OR subscribe clinton your name.
There's a Perot list, too. But beware, these are prolific lists,
especially the Clinton one.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:25:22 CDT
From:         LIB38@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject:      Information Standards Quarterly new contact

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The editor of Information Standards Quarterly, Pat Ensor, has moved
to the University of Houston Libraries. ISQ is the publication of the
National Information Standards Organization; submission of any articles,
news, etc. relating to information standards is welcome. New contact
information is as follows.
Pat Ensor, Head, Information Services
University of Houston Libraries
Houston TX 77204-2091
Internet:LIB38@JETSON.UH.EDU
Voice:(713)743-9762; FAX:(713)743-9748.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:15:50 CDT
From:         David Colborne <colborn@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
Subject:      Instruction videos for CD-ROM use

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Does anyone out there use videos for training individuals or groups
in the use of any of the following CD-ROM products:  SilverPlatter
MEDLINE, CAB Abstracts, AGRICOLA, Science Citation Index, Compact
Cambridge Life Sciences Collection and ASFA, SilverPlatter MathSci,
and Food Science and Technology Abstracts.  I would appreciate knowing who
produces any such products.  Please respond directly to me.  Thanks.


David Colborne, Reference Librarian, Science Library
University of Manitoba
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:24:11 CDT
From:         JEPAR@UNC.BITNET
Subject:      cancelling Biol. Abstr. for online service

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Please respond to me, not to the list.
I believe several months ago there were a couple messages on
the list concerning cancelling the printed Chemical Abstracts
and/or Biological Abstracts and providing online search
service for these resources.  I've deleted or misplaced the
messages, but I would like to contact the libraries or centers
that did this.  If anyone has information concerning this,
please let me know.  (Email addresses would be greatly
appreciated.)  I would also like to hear from anyone else
that has contemplated this issue.
Thank you.
Joan E. Jones, Assistant Biology Librarian
Biology Library -- Zoology Section
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC  27599-3280
(919) 962-2264     jepar@unc.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:13:50 CDT
From:         "M. Torrens" <torrensm@UTORGPU.bitnet>
Subject:      access to BLAISE

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Help!
Can anyone tell me if there is access to BLAISE via the INTERNET?
A colleague in Rare Books is interested in read access to the British
Library's bibliographic database.
Many thanks for any help you can provide. Please, respond to me at the
address below and i'll pass it on.
torrensm@utorgpu.bitnet  -or-  torrensm@utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:15:13 CDT
From:         Steven Kirby <kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Internet Training (Not again!)
              Sep 29, 92 5:55 pm

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Maybe I'm a little too anxious because we just finished (I hope) a discussion
of the thrust of this message on NETTRAIN.  Tom, the legality of commercial
use of the "net" depends on what you mean by the "net".  There is already
significant commerical traffic on the Internet (e.g. Dialog, Lexis, DJNS,
MCI Mail, etc.)  Since the Internet isn't a single entity, but rather an
almagamation of entities, it's kinda hard to make blanket statements about
what is and isn't permissible "on the Net".  Truth is, it depends on which
"net" you're talking about.  Before we take up huge chunks of bandwidth to
debate this issue, there is a discussion list that deals with commercial use
of the consitutent parts of the Internet.  I don't have the address handy--
I deleted it, along with a lot else, already.  But Glee Willis or Howard
Pasternack of some of the others who've survived (endured?) the other debate
might could pass it along.  Any of y'all know what I'm talking about and have
the address handy?

--Steve

Steven Kirby
University of Georgia
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I found Michael Hart's message on the different perceptions of the new group
 of
> internet users and the analogy with learning to drive a car most interesting
 and
> very appropos.  I agree with him on most points that he makes.
>
> However, I found his copyright notice, and unintelligible explanation of the
> need therefore totally inappropriate in its tone.  The broad restriction,
 indeed
> prohibition of showing his message to anyone else is contrary to the ethical
> spirit of the net.  Even worse, it is clear that the point of the prohibition
 is
> to allow a private publisher financial gain, and it is equally clear, that
 "for
> profit" use of the net is illegal. It is one thing to ask the readers not to
> republish his words without attribution.  It is equally appropriate to ask
> readers not to include his work in theirs even with attribution.  But as
> written, the prohibition prevents me from showing this note to my colleage who
> happens not to be a PACS-L subscriber.  Is this reasonable, ethical, or legal?
> I think not.  Should I show it to my colleague anyhow?  Any comments or
 guidance
> will be appreciated.
> Tom Vogl
> vogl@helix.nih.gov
>
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