HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: what the...
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:58:53 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

I have now installed 1.65.  But this is *still* happening when I "login"...

Unknown command: DATE:.
Unknown command: REFERENCES:.
Unknown command: DISTRIBUTION:.
Unknown command: ORGANIZATION:.
Unknown command: LINES:.
"JON@VECTOR0.SAC.CA.US" forbidden by Act of Congress
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
Unknown command: >.
...etc
Unknown command: RESET.
Unknown command: POLL.
Unknown command: CHROME.
Unknown command: EXECUTE.
Unknown command: COMMAND.
Unknown command: NEWUSER.
Unknown command: MODIFY.
Unknown command: USED.
user... ?
Unknown command: --.
Unknown command: MIKE.

4:03p [#0: Main]
%

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What the heck is going on?  I thought that this was a 1.64 problem, but
the same thing is now happening in 1.65!!!!!


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: The woes of ^Z
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 14:59:45 GMT

In article <owF2VB8w165w@cybrspc.UUCP> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
>Hey, Unix types... what happens if a DOS site embeds a ^D in mail or
>news?
	Nuthin.  ^D is simply a traditional EOF character for the terminal.
UNIX files have no EOF character.

--Dave
-- 
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From: dawson@hobbes.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle Goodies..
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:49:24 GMT
Organization: BellSouth Systems Integration

In article <BzDt08.1H8@cs.psu.edu> fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

>In article <9XquVB2w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>|The only caveat I can think of is that mention of 'ihave/sendme' draws
>|fire... apparently, that is old-hat, and should be replaced with the
>|current buzzword:  Dynafeed.
>
>As far as I know, ihave/sendme and Dynafeed solve two completely
>different problems.  ihave/sendme allows a backup newsfeed to transfer
>only the articles that were missed by the primary newsfeed; Dynafeed
>allows the feed's "sys" file to be customized based on the destination
>site's readership.
>
>I can't see how they overlap.


In article <al6LrAMMBh107h@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US>,
    steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

>As I understand it, dynafeed is used for the addition and deletion of
>complete news group feeds, not for individual news within a group you
>are already receiving.  Now, if, indeed, dynafeed can tell your upstream
>host to send selected articles as well, it sounds like the greatest
>thing since peanut butter.


Excuse my slip!  As should be obvious, I've not had the opportunity to
actually use either ihave/sendme or Dynafeed.  I have the UNIX software
to each of those, but I've not bothered to unpack either, as none of the
UNIX sites I admin have feeds from systems that support either.  It's
that old legendary Usenet inertia, <not> moving right along!
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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: CPS rates
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:08:25 CST
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

I can't believe no one else noticed this.... but perhaps we can get
Tom to fix?

The cps rates listed during a uucico transfer show themselves as having
a granularity of 1 sec., that is the measurement of time is in seconds.
For example, lets assume you have typically 1000cps to your host.  Now,
if you watch uucico, you'll note cps rates ranging from 50-60cps all
the way to 1000cps.  A 50 byte file results in 50cps, even though the
connection is 1000cps.

Tom (or whoever):

Is there a way to use the MSDOS 18 cycles/sec. clock to bring the
granularity of time measurement down to 1/18th a sec?  That would
provide more accurate transmission times for smaller files; since
uucp is made up of "data" files (biggish) and "execute" files
(SMALL!) it would up the accuracy for close to 50% of all uucp
transmissions.

Of course, the drawback is possibly more processing time, or
possibly the need for a UNIX counterpart (18 cycles/sec clock
is a DOS-ism).


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From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Wafmail help and questions.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 08:51:19 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!

root@cibbs.UUCP writes:

> spooge@sizone.uucp (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:
> 
> > download. So when Wafmail gets to deleting, it does
> > 
> > "del c:\temp\wmscan\[null]"
> > 
> > but dos translates that to "del c:\temp\wmscan\"
> > and of course, it thinks you want to delete the contents of WMSCAN, and
> > asks
> > "All files in directory will be lost!
> >  Proceed, Y/N?"
> > and SITS there waiting for human console input!
> > 
> 
> for %%d da da da del %%d <d:\waffle\bin\y
> 
> Inside the y file (make sure you specify the full path!) have only one thing:
> 
> y<CR>

Maybe this is easier than having those small misc files laying around, but
I use:

echo Y | for %%d da da da del %%d

bill

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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle User Complaints
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:54:42 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

basil@osric.cs.odu.edu (Keith Basil) writes:

> Re graphic interface standards:
> 
> >  From:  pbratton@lssec.bt.co.uk (Paul Bratton)
> 
> >With the push toward wide-spread use of a standard, one of the leading
> >contenders is NAPLPS (North American Presentation Level Protocol
> >Syntax).

> 	This was grabbed from a mailing list that I'm on.. From the
>   above, it appears that the standards are there.  It'd be nice if Waffle
>   was the first *cheap* BBS system to implement a standard such as NAPLPS.

You want Waffle to look like Minitel?

Ugh!

I sincerely hope it's an option one can disable.  Minitel looks really
cheesy to me.  (kind of like Prodigy with lower resolution)

BTW, AlphaWindows would be a better idea.
--
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From: stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:08:38 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
> > There is no way to register yourself as an Internet->UUCP gateway; therefor
> > there is no way to find such a gateway short of asking random postmasters.
> 
> That last bit illustrates in graphic detail that the Internet is the wrong
> place to go for email services!  One-way routing?  How wonderfully useful.

_This_ is the specific reason for obtaining a FQDN in the Internet DNS and
having an MX record.  The MX record provides the routing information for
any Internet host to send email to your host, even if it is really a
uucp-only system.  Get a domain from the appropriate domain-registration
authorities (either registrar@nic.ddn.mil or cooper@isi.edu), register a
fully-qualified domain name for your host (to include HINFO and MX records
in the DNS database of your primary nameserver), and stop having problems!

   Stuart L Labovitz                    Internet:  stu@valinor.mythical.com
    (insert standard disclaimer here)       UUCP:   uunet!valinor!stu

   Duct tape is like the force.  It has a light side, a dark side,
      and it holds the universe together.      --- Carl Zwanzig
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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle Goodies..
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:10:34 -0800
Organization: The GRAFex Company

In <9XquVB2w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

>The only caveat I can think of is that mention of 'ihave/sendme' draws
>fire... apparently, that is old-hat, and should be replaced with the
>current buzzword:  Dynafeed.

As I understand it, dynafeed is used for the addition and deletion of
complete news group feeds, not for individual news within a group you
are already receiving.  Now, if, indeed, dynafeed can tell your upstream
host to send selected articles as well, it sounds like the greatest
thing since peanut butter.

s

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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Better news processor for waffle?
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:11:24 GMT
Organization: Berry Communications

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> If you're looking for something under MS-Windows, try helldiver.
> look on halcyon.com under waffle/news.

Has HellDiver been released, or is it still in beta testing?

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: From NOBODY
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:11:06 GMT

In article <3BBJVB1w165w@pilgrim.carlisle.ma.us> walsh@pilgrim.carlisle.ma.us writes:
|When I use rmail from the command line to send mail, and later
|check the ADMIN/MAIL file, I see that the mail was sent by NOBODY.
|What parameter did I forget to set? My rmail command line has both
|the -f and -u parameter set.

Waffle's command-line RMAIL usage is incomplete; for best results, you need
to feed it a completely-formed message.  You want to make something like:

>From fenner  Fri Dec 11 07:09:20 1992
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 07:09:20 EST
>From: fenner@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Bill Fenner)
>To: people@hogbbs.scol.pa.us
>Subject: foo bar
>
> text text

Note the two spaces after the username in the "From " line.

If you then feed this file to rmail, saying something like
rmail people@hogbbs.scol.pa.us < this-file
you should have better results.

  Bill
From: phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The woes of ^Z
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 00:28:48 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

>jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US  (Dazed N. Confused) writes:
>>      Somewhere in the middle of the article the poster had put in a
>> ^Z.  Waffle stopped at this point and read no further, even though
>> the rest of the file was about 10k.

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
>Waffle handles files in text mode, except when reading/writing the spool
>for off-site traffic.  (right, Bill?)  ^Z happens to the the DOS EOF
>marker for text files.  Waffle hasn't got a bug.  MS-DOS has a bozon
>filesystem.

Doesn't have anything to do with the filesystem.  The DEFAULT mode to read
a file is "TEXT" mode, in which case a ^Z is treated as EOF.  If WAFFLE didn't
open the news files in "TEXT" mode, then this bug would be fixed.  But then
you would have to contend with CR/LF line delimiters.

>
>Hey, Unix types... what happens if a DOS site embeds a ^D in mail or
>news?

^D is only treated as the EOF character when it's typed in from the keyboard.
As a matter of fact you can change which character is treated as EOF by
issuing a 'stty' command. "stty eof ^Z" will make UNIX act more like DOS.
^D or ^Z doesn't have any effect when read from a file unless a program is
setup to look for those characters.


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Waffle 1.65 installation problems
Keywords: waffle commandline editor
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:15:25 GMT

dwrage@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (David William Wrage) writes:

>The second problem is more of a problemsolver or simplifier:  How do I correctly 
> install a fullscreen editor and could someone suggest or point me towards
>an FTP site that would have such a beast?  Right now I am trying to use 
>quicked 1.03 but I have to run a program that converts the waffle information
>to a dorinfo type file.  Help!

for many examples of possible _editors files for various external editors
usable from waffle, consult the /waffle/docs, the waffle FAQ, and the example
editors file available from the mailserver on halcyon.com

here's my /waffle/extern/_editors file from my DOS waffle as an example:

qed /access=0 /screen /slash /command="c:\bin\qed %i."
ved /access=0 /screen /slash /command="c:\bin\ved %i."
pe  /access=0 /screen /slash /command="c:\wplib\pe %i."
stevie-remote /screen /access=0 /command="d:\local\wafbin\bbstevie ! d:\user\%A %i"
bbstevie /screen /access=0 /command="d:\local\wafbin\bbstevie ! d:\user\%A %i"
stevie-local /screen /access=9 /command="d:\local\wafbin\bbstevie   %i"
stevie  /screen /access=9 /command="d:\local\wafbin\bbstevie   %i"
meansi /access=0 /screen /slash /command="c:\bin\meansi %i."
meibm /access=0 /screen /slash /command="c:\bin\meibm %i."

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From: carlos@infoserv.com (Carlos Dominguez)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: ..working with 1.63 (modified)
Keywords: 1.63, editor, importing-text, mail
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 09:53:47 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Dominguez UseNet, Brooklyn NY, USA

.. I'm using a modified version of 1.63, and am generally pleased
with the results but I have a few questions..
 
a) How can I get waffle to import text in a followup post or email
   message.. (supposed to but doesn't)
 
b) Can I get another Mail reader to coexist with this version of
   waffle?

c) Can I get another News reader to coexist with waffle and my
   news feed?
 
I would love to run PC versions of TIN or ELM, but I can't seem to
get any information if it's even possible..
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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 13:19:34 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> In article <yogNVB19w165w@iowegia.uucp> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) wr
> |I heard the rumors of the QWK format being updated as well, some time
> |ago. I have seen no results whatsoever.
> 
> Well, several months ago, someone mentioned on alt.bbs that they were involve
> in the QWK II spec.  I sent him email asking if I could help them design it s
> that USENET format was supported.  He essentially told me to buzz off, becaus
> they were only interested in Fido.

Well, so much for the all-inclusive QWK format idea.


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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: parser for admin/mail
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:51:11 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> 
> > xyzzy@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker) writes:
> > > Does a parser exist for the waffle/admin/mail file? I'm looking for a pro
> > > that takes that file and produces some kind of meaningful output, perhaps
> 
> > Oh, get real.  I've no sympathy at all for so-called sysadmins who query
> > for help, but don't even bother to read.  What makes you so stinkin' specia
> 
> Hello Willard,
> 
> Hey...  :(  don't be so hard on the guy.  It would have been easier to just
> say "use STATS.exe".

I was not referring to any problems xyzzy might have had in reading the
documentation, I was speaking of the audacity of his asking for assistance,
and, in the same breath, telling us that he doesn't take the time to read
the newsgroup.

The group is probably the best place to go for information, and one can
learn a bunch from just lurking a while.  The price for that information
is participation.  Give back what you've gotten.  As I attempted to say
earlier, I don't feel inclined to help other sysadmins if I feel they don't
want to spend time on their side helping new sysadmins get off the ground...
assuming they eventually become "experts" themselves.

-- 
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emory!uumind!willard!dawson
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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Removing crossposts from a FOLLOWed post
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:37:13 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

bcrock@happy.nuts.almanac.bc.ca (Brad Crockett) writes:

-> When replying to an article that has been cross posted, how do you
-> specify which newsgroups you want to cross post to?  Or are you
-> forced to FOLLOW to the exact same newsgroups that the original
-> article specified?

follow newsgroup1 newsgroup2 ...



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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico speed, bad headers
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:55:09 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
-> spooge@sizone.uucp (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:
-> > jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
-> > 
-> > > 3. Make sure you have uu.fossil set up in static
-> > truth.
-> What is this? I can't find a "uu.fossil" in my documentation.

Make that uu.driver, referenced in ~/docs/network.doc


Hey kiddies, don't forget to double check your info before posting
and greping for partial phrases.

Greping for "uu." or "fossil" would have found it as well.



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From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: A Neophyte's Questions
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 15:09:18 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

I won't attempt to answer all your questions, but:

mtbb136@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.) writes:

> 2.  I want to leave my computer and modem on all the time so that it
>     can call out (see above question) and transfer mail, however I do
>     not want it to answer the phone.  Can I set something in the static
>     file so that my modem is not set to autoanswer?

	If you use an AT command-set modem, S0=0 in the setup
	string will prevent the modem from answering on its own.
	
> 3.  Instead of seeing the window "Awaiting Call...."  is there a way that
>     waffle will continuously display the number of message or unread
>     messages for each of the users on my system?  A few of my family
>     members don't receive much mail so they don't want to have to login
>     each time they want to check.

	From the console you can type "f username" and see if
	there's any new mail, so it's not necessary to log in
	to check that.
	
> 4.  Is there a way that I can get registered in some sort of map file so
>     that people can send me mail at johnr@agnostic.uucp instead of my
>     current agnostic!johnr@ms.uky.edu?   Assuming someone else is not
>     using the name agnostic, of course.

	Sure - ask the administrator of your feed to check to
	see if the name agnostic is available.  While you're waiting
	for an answer, look in news.answers for the FAQ article
	on how to get an entry in the UUCP maps.

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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:43:49 CST
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

| Because the whole concept of the DNS was that everyone would get registered,
| if only with an MX.  Since registration in the .US domain is free and easy, a
| registering your own domain name is free and slightly more difficult, there's
| no excuse for any UUCP-only site not to have a domain name.

Oh goodie, I get to jump into the fray :-)

"registration in the .us domain is...easy" ??  NOT around here... local
Internet sites don't want ANYTHING to do with other uucp hosts, either
because they're just stingy nits or because they only want to support
sites related to the company who owns the host.

uwvax (University of Wisconsin) won't even consider a normal uucp
connect to them - and have tried at least once to sever ties to
heurikon and gorgon.  uakiri and related don't know how (or perhaps
don't WANT to) support UUCP sites...

The nearest MX'er would be a long distance connect for whoever
provided the service.

So, would everyone stop pretending that finding a MX'er is as easy
as looking under 'M' in the Yellow Pages?  Sheesh.


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 never appealed to us."                 |  any other BBS in America!
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