From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Amiga OS weaknesses and strengths
Date: 5 Jan 1993 04:51:08 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <C0CJnH.4DL@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   Commodore has already ripped box selecting and the 3.0 palette tool from
>the Apple Macintosh.  Why stop there?

You're a real high-caliber idiot, you know that?  color wheels are not
a Mac invention, they're not even remotely a mac invention.  Color
wheels have been in use by artists for ages now.  They were the best
way of selecting a color for artists 50 years ago, and they still are.

>   What happens if you give a text file a project icon, enter "c:more" in
>the tooltypes for the icon, and "more" is not in the "c:" directory?  Do
>you get an "Unanble to open your tool 'c:more'" requester?  This does not
>happen on the Macintosh.

Intelligent people just put "more" in the tooltypes.  That checks the
current path.  Both "c:" and "Sys:Utilities" should be in that path.

>   If something works in a few cases, that does not necessarily mean that it
>isn't broken.  

Ahh, but it's not "totally broken", which were your words.  See the point?

>   That would not fix any of the archives on the nearly 800 Fish disks, that
>already have projects with hard-coded paths for the needed utilities.  
>Soething needs to be added to the OS so that the OS can go searching for a
>utility if it isn't found in the hard-coded path in a project's tooltypes.

First, it doesn't happen on everything.  There are some intelligent
programs out there.  Second, adding that to the OS is NOT a solution.
I'm not one to propose the introduction of more hacks just because
people aren't doing the right thing.  That's what set 2.04 back.

>   Will this extended AmigaGuide and all of the needed support files to
>handle graphics and sound be made standard software with the Amiga?  The
>nice thing about Macintosh TeachText is that it is ready-to-go.  You can 
>read a document with text and color graphics immediately after using the
>computer for the first time, without having to set anything up.

An addition to the AmigaGuide document specification could handle this
easily.  And FTXT chunks could easily contain an ILBM/ANIM chunk.

>   I've already admitted that, but this is comp.sys.amiga, after all.  And
>this is a discussion of the problems of the Amiga OS.  Besides, Apple manages

Actually, no, it wasn't.  It was a comparison between the two that
began with you.  I guess it was just an example you used so you could
start bashing the Amiga again, with little justification, detail, or
thought behind what you say?

>to sell three times as many Macintoshes as Commodore sells Amigas, every
>year, in spite of the inelegance of the underlying Mac OS.  This shows how
>much Commodore needs to shift their priorities from the underlying OS to
>what's on the surface.

No, it shows you how much C= needs to shift their priorities from the
word of mouth type of philosophy to real bite-you-in-the-ass
advertising.

Greg

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