HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: May I suggest the Crick virus?
Date: 21 Jul 1992 13:44:47 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul21.200710.21004@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.120458.8807@uoft02.utoledo.edu> pvittal@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>
>>WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET THESE TWO BUFFOONS OFF THE NET?

By the same token what are you doing here anyway? And why havent you
had similar kind words for Deb Chat, Mustafa, King Cobra and the other 
products of pavlovian experiments gone awry, who have grazed the portals
of this net, however fleetingly.


>>NOT ONLY ARE THEY DISPLAYING THEIR IMMATURITY TO THE ENTIRE READERSHIP, BUT
>>THEY ARE ALSO MISUSING THE NET. I DONT THINK THE NAME "SOC. CULTURE. INDIAN"
>>APPLIES TO THIS NEWS GROUP ANY MORE.

I suupose that by your definition, the only things Indian that can be
discussed on this net are contents of roti's, post lunch belching, how
to dig your nose as they did in the old country and what brand of bidi
tastes better. A list very susceptible to intellectual discussions, I must add
and things that interest most people on the net anyway.



>>ISNT THERE ANYONE WHO CAN ACT AS
>>A MODERATOR OF THIS NEWSGROUP AND BLACKLIST THESE MORONS?
>


Ah atlast the prayer to the almighty bringing out the best of the servile
instincts that are so overwhelming in all desi's. Try sitting up and
praying all night and if that dosent work offer a few sacrifices to satisfy
the gods. Otherwise crawl back into your little hole and stay there until
you are called upon.

Samit


















Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.pakistan
From: ngopalas@ha15.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Hindu Refugees from Afghanistan
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:18:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.155839.24739@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar) writes:


|> The Bajajs are among the Lucky ones, in that they have relatives to fall
|> back on in India. Many others don't have such a support system. Ram Pervesh 
|> Kapoor for instance. In Afghanistan, he could stand and watch as the
|> Mujahidin walked away with his life's earnings, looting a shop where he had
|> been seling shoes for 25 years. He knew of Hindu women who had been
|> forcibly carried away. More than his shop, he was worried about the
|> safety of his 18-year old daughter and the other women in his family. He
|> recalls that one day, when he tried to protect a friend's sister from
|> abductors, he was slashed across his body with a knife. That was the day
|> he packed his bags and left for India.
|> 
|> . . . But the journey back to India was not entirely incident-free. They
|> were stopped near Kabul and asked to leave one of their girls behind.
|> "We begged for mercy." sobs Pervesh. "Fortunately for us, those Mujahidins
|> were God-fearing souls who let us off, in exchange for some money." . . .
|> 
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> ---raj

Were there any Muslim Indians and their women treated this way? Or was this
confined only to the Hindu and Sikh women? I guess what I am asking is whether
these bearded jackals were targeting Indians or only religious minorities.
Why doesn't India airlift these Indians out like it did in Kuwait? 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Aditi, Arindam and me.
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:29:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.172505.26122@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma) writes:
>
>> Your comments about our evalution of you helped me to understand you even  
>> better. Be passionate, but don't be illogical. Because thats when one gets  
>> messed up and nothing really happens. Passion is the warmth of a  
>> character. But logic is the intelligence. Proper combination of both can  
>> do wonders. As for your religious faith, I believe in complete individual  
>> freedom. So, I have no comment about your belief. Good Luck in your  
>> mission whatever that might be.
>
>	Arindam can't be but Arindam.
>	You be you.
>	Logic is but a tool of intelligence,
>	but it's far from [being] the intelligence.
>
>	Freedom is feedom,
>	from belief in the "concept" of freedom itself.
>	freedom knows no individual freedom,
>	nor it knows "agreement" or "disagreement."
>	nor luck or no-luck
>	freedom is Freedom.
>	
>	Arindam can't be but Arindam.
>	
>	
>---raj
Thanx.
We are all kings in the kingdom of our Lord: Tagore.
Some people think it's logical to care only for his own well-being. Some people
carry the logic a little bit further and say we have to care for others to
ensure our well being. As Surak, the Vulcun said in Star Trek: A spear in your
neighbour's heart is a spear in your own heart. Then he thinks every rational
person should follow the logic. He comes back and tells the first person who
says: Go away you irrational illogical impractical fool.

Some people's logic say: economic progress is the only hope. Some people's
logic say scientific progress is the only hope. Some say spiritual progress
is the only hope. Some people carry the logic a little bit further and say
all three taken alone is necessary but not sufficient. They have to go hand in
hand. Each of the individual groups shout: Go away you impractical illogical
irrational fool.

Oh, well.

Bahai faith is the only hope for humanity: Gandhi.
Bahai faith is the purest aspiration of human thought: Tolstoy

At least the onus is not on me any more.
Luck
Arindam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jena@cis.uab.edu (Asit Jena)
Subject: H1-B v/s J1.  What are the pros and cons?
Originator: jena@earth
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:44:19 GMT


Dear nettors:

I would really appreciate information on the following:

1.  how long does an H1-B take under the new rules?

2.  What are the disadvantages in having a J1 instead  (if an H1 takes 
    too long) ?


Thanks in advance.





Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: osm8502@summa.tamu.edu (MESINA, OMEZ SAMOON)
Subject: Re: Address of USEFI in Calcutta, Bombay, delhi and Madras
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:56:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.134051.6719@wpi.WPI.EDU>, dharam@wpi.WPI.EDU (Dharmendra Khanolkar) writes...
>In article <1992Jul21.183033.14134@oracle.us.oracle.com> achoudhu@us.oracle.com (Akhil Choudhury) writes:
>	[ Stuff Deleted...]
> 
>                 Does anyone know the exact address of United States
>>Educational Foundation .. in Calcutta, Delhi, Bombay and Madras ?
> 
>Akhil,
> 
>	The addr of USEFI in Bombay is :
> 
>	USEFI,
>	Sandeep Bldg, Marine Lines, Bombay 400001
> 
> 
>Hope this helps..
> 
>Dharmen
> 
> 
>-- 
>Dharmendra Khanolkar,				( dharam@wpi.wpi.edu )
>Worcester Polytechnic Institute,
>Box #176, Worcester,
>MA, 01609 Tel # (508) 831 5360



It is Bombay 400 020.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rakhee@ece.orst.edu (Rakhee Gupta)
Subject: Communications Program in USCLA
Originator: rakhee@chemeketa.ECE.ORST.EDU
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:11:32 GMT

Hi Guys,

A friend of mine is planning to apply in USCLA for Master's
in Electrical Engg. Her major is Communications.  

I would like to have some information on the funding
and professors in this area in USC.

It will be great if someone who reads this could get in
touch with me about this.

Rakhee
E-mail: rakhee@ece.orst.edu
Voice: 503-753-3257

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: smitra@sophia.smith.edu (Sramana Mitra)
Subject: Re: Changing role of women: A woman's perspective
Organization: Smith College
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:51:15 GMT


>> Even though I don't feel threatened by the "new" Indian woman in 
>> any way, I feel particularly discomfited by all this pre-marital
>> and extra-marital stuff. I feel that this surely is one of the 
>> undesirable areas where our women are trying to mimic the West. 
>
>I don't like the generalization you make. What makes you think that women
>who have pre-marital/extra-marital relationships are doing it to mimic
>anybody, whoever that is? How do you know, that they are not married to 
                           ---------------------------------------------
>sterio-typical men, with primitive convictions, who stifle their existence,
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>suffocate their creativity, and make them feel DEAD?
 ---------------------------------------------------

>you feel DEAD, then get rid of him, divorce him. What is the point in
>having him as a husband and at the same time getting involved in an
>extra marital relationship ? Does not extra marital relationship display

Yes, sounds fine. My main objection was to extra-marital relationships
being due to a mimicry of the western women's lib movement. I think I made it
clear in my post, that I do NOT support extra-marital relationships.
All I am trying to say is, that, people may have their reasons... it's
not as simple as mimicing some other culture.

Sramana
From: usp@futserv.austin.ibm.com (Uma S. Pandey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IIT Delhi Address: Thank for all those who replied.
Date: 20 Jul 92 16:34:19 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin


Thanks for all those who replied. 


-- 
===============================================================================
Uma S. Pandey,						    Phone: 512-838-8573
Email: usp@futserv.austin.ibm.com
Disc: All opinions are mine and mine only.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.jewish
From: joshi@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Anil Joshi)
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:22:08 GMT


Please, please, please trim your replies.

Anil
-- 
"Tiviri isumuna tailambu teeyavacchu, tavili mrigatrishnalo neeru traagavacchu
tirigi kundeti kommu saadhipma vacchu, cheri muurkhula manasu ranjimpa raadhu"
- An ancient "Telugu" "Padyam"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@htlv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Canada versus U.S.A.
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:39:33 GMT

In article <23JUL92.20593290@skyfox.usask.ca> lakhanpal@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
>
>        I think that the quality of life in Canada is much better than
>
>        in the USA.  Our health care system in Canada is far better
>
>        than the health care system in the USA.  Everyone in Canada is
>
>        almost covered for health care.  But in the USA, there are people
>
>        who are not  covered at all.  If anyone has any comments, that would
>
>        be helpful.
>
>                Deepak Lakhanpal


What a perfect example of the inferiority complex that Canadians have.  Yes
it is true that the USA casts a long shadow that obscures Canada from the 
world's view, but this is no reason to embark on such petty oneupsmanship.
This is also the most simple-minded post I have ever seen regarding such
a complex issue.  It is obvious that you are not a political or social 
scientist, but merely a self-doubting pathetic person who was so
unfortunate as to live in Canuk-land.  Where are references that support
any of your arguments?  

If Canada is so great, why is Gretzky in LA?

Ed

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From: plaul@latech.edu (Pummy Laul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.nepal,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY??  (REPOST)
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:34:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Louisiana Tech University



NO I am not offering any quick get rich scheme.

This is an offer to make some  extra pocket money while attending school.


What you have to do is to put up posters at various locations around campus.  
These posters are for an Investment Challenge,  like the AT&T,  Wall Street 
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Ocassionally you will have to refill the posters if the applications run out.
The catch is to make sure you put up the posters where they are highly visible.


You get four dollars for every entry that went in from your school.  The amount of money you make,  depends on the number of entries that go in from your school

If you happen to be in a big school,  where there is a possibility of more than a 100 entries,  you could make $400.  That is quite a bit for about 5-6 hours of work.


Interested,  get in touch with me

Send me the following Info

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Email Address:
Address & Phone #
Name of School:
Size Of School:



Thanx

Pummy Laul
plaul@engr.latech.edu



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU (C Nagappa - behind the scenes)
Subject: Re: Bangarappa the 5% CM ?
Reply-To: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.031917.17090@seas.smu.edu>, krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna) writes:
>From: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU (C Nagappa - behind the scenes)
>I looked it up again - there are complaints about some parks being 
>converted into playgrounds. There are plenty of complaints also about 
>the language policy in schools ( they are trying to force Kannada as usual).
>Incidentally most of the complaints came from Kannada parents and goes
>to show how foolish the state govt decision was. 
>
>I had posted an article about  some snippets in the Kannada net - I'll
>post that out also. 
>
>Sanjay 
>
>  
>
>


Thank's a lot for posting this. Now my mind is at rest! I am more 
concerned about progress in the state than petty corruption. 


Sincerely,

Chetan Nagappa
From: bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Rushdie Asks University Rector To Mediate
Keywords: Rushdie Salas
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:32:01 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

apnews reports:
	   El ESCORIAL, Spain (AP) - Salman Rushdie today appealed to a
university rector to use his influence in the Muslim world to bring
an end to the ordeal that Rushdie has endured over his novel ``The
Satanic Verses.''
	   Rushdie has been in hiding since Iran's Ayatollah Ruhollah
Khomeini demanded his assassination in 1989. Khomeini said the
novel blasphemed Islam.
	   Rushdie now is seeking help from Gustavo Villapalos Salas, the
rector of Complutense University, who was part of a group that
successfully sought the release of Spanish hostages in Baghdad
following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990.
	   Villapalos promised Rushdie he would seek a meeting with Iranian
officials.
	   In a talk to a summer university seminar, titled ``The Author
and his Demons,'' Rushdie spoke of his experiences since Khomeini
called for his death. He was protected by heavy security.
	   Rushdie told a questioner he did not provoke the situation.
	   ``I was quite satisfied with my reputation before,'' he told an
auditorium filled with several hundred people.
	   Unidentified attackers last year killed the Japanese and Italian
translators of ``The Satanic Verses.''
	   Peruvian author and former presidential candidate Mario Vargas
Llosa, who also spoke at the seminar, suggested Spain might help
Rushdie due to its good relations with the Muslim world.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: eleea48@rosie.uh.edu (Thomas, Thomas)
Subject: Olympics Opening Ceremony
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:03:00 GMT

It was a great shock to me to hear the NBC commentator describe India
during the opening ceremonies as a "poor nation, without synthetic playing
surfaces".
I know for a fact that in at least two places(Bangalore and Delhi),there
are synthetic playing surfaces.
If commentators of national networks make such obnoxious comments, where
does this leave us?
As  the Olympics Opening Ceremonies, is one of the most widely watched
events,this will surely leave a pathetic image of India in the eyes
of millions of American viewers. It also goes to show that people still
regard India as a poor underdeveloped nation.
I wonder when this will change ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Aditi, Arindam and me.
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:40:39 GMT

>Your comments about our evalution of you helped me to understand you even  
>better. Be passionate, but don't be illogical. Because thats when one gets  
>messed up and nothing really happens. Passion is the warmth of a  
>character. But logic is the intelligence. Proper combination of both can  
>do wonders. As for your religious faith, I believe in complete individual  
>freedom. So, I have no comment about your belief. Good Luck in your  
>mission whatever that might be. --- Aditi Sen
You are still not there. The plan has to be logical: I don't think what I
proposed to do individually is illogical. The illogic lies in the belief
that things can be changed in spite of evidences to the contrary. It takes
illogic to make a Buddha who says: "O the Evil One; I will not attain the
final salvation till there's an army of knowledgable brothers and sisters
ready to fight every vain and false doctrine." It takes illogic to make a
Muhammad who preaches for 15 years continuing to being stoned who promises
his followers the kingdom of Persia when they are about to be routed by
a handful of Meccans; it takes illogic to make a Gandhi who thinks that
200 years of colonialism can be brought down without violence.
Luck
Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:08:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <92209.171144DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Hey all of you guys cribbing about Bob Costa's comments and
>repeating again and again that India does has astro turf in
>Delhi, Benglore, Chandigarh ..etc etc.
>
>None. And that is what Bob Costas may be was refering to in his
>comments.
>
>regards..          Deepak

Even if Bob Costa's comments on India are full of reason, his comments on the
other countries are more than inappropriate. 

No body seem's to have taken notice of his comments about china. He talked of china
being a closed sports machine or some thing like that and commented " who knows what
methods they are using to win the olympic medals". This was after a reference to the
use of drugs by East German athletes. 

Or is it just that he is full of hot air?.   

Ramakrishna
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.canada
From: prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Canada versus U.S.A.
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:12:30 GMT

>In article <23JUL92.20593290@skyfox.usask.ca> lakhanpal@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
>>
>>        I think that the quality of life in Canada is much better than
>>        in the USA.  Our health care system in Canada is far better

One thing is beyond dispute: Canadians produce far superior beer thatn
Americans.

I always had this question: Why cannot a mainstream US beer producer make a beer
that has the character of a Canadian beer (not counting, of course,
expensive ales such as Samuel Adams)? Is it an arcane science that 
Americans cannot emulate or is it sheer ignorance of customer preferences.

Satya Prabhaar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Re: THIS IS LITERARY TRIPE!!!!
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:18:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.185525.3934@ultb.isc.rit.edu> bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>-< Musings of a greater schizo >-
>
[stuff deleted to please the editor]
>of individuals like you who even fail as an excuse for rabid, turd-brained 
>Geekoids who term themselves intellectuals. The only redeeming factor is your 
>timely and well thought out decision to read these chaotic meanderings of 
>mine. Sad and unfair as it may seem, I still think you're an overgrown, 
>bigotted, slime faced hairball with a darker facet to your ungainly and tunnel
>visioned cerebrations that struggle to go on between the eyes that have so 
>foolishly read this crap! And now...to you, an unmitigated fool, I bid 
>goodbye!

I've found a postscript to this article in talk.schizo

p.s.: I have written the above article for my second half. Signed --
Even a bigger if only half a fool
From: aparna@mipos2.intel.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Fair to India ?
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:59:56 GMT
Reply-To: aparna@mipos2.intel.com ()
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA



In  Re: People of Indian Origin and Indian culture

the point was made that Indiands settled abroad finally pump 
back more money than was spent on their education.

India did not only invest money in their studies - she invested
dreams. Money she could ill afford was directed towards subsidi-
zing their education. Money contributed as taxes came even from
those struggling for their meals.

What value can u put on that money ? A "long term" view was
taken and that kind of education was made provided.

The argument runs that many in India are not doing much - were
justifications needed ? For arguments' sake, if that is granted, 
- do two wrongs ever make a right ? 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.college,soc.college.gradinfo
From: bhogavil@eemips.tamu.edu (Suresh K Bhogavilli)
Subject: Info. needed : South Dakota State Univ.
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:22:39 GMT


Hi,
	 My cousin and his friend are joining South Dakota State Univ.
     in Fall '92 and are expected there on 18 of Aug '92. They are
	 coming to Sioux Falls from Hyderabad. Can someone
     there at SDSU, please e-mail me the following info:

	 * Is there an Indian Association and if so, who can I contact to
	   enquire about the help they can extend to receive them at Sioux
	   Falls and help find a temporary stay?

     * Do you know someone who is looking for roommates?

	 * Do you know someone in the Dept. of EE and Dept. of Environmental
	   engg. that I can contact to get info. regarding the depts.

    I'd greately appreciate any help in this regard. 

	Thanx.

	suresh

	E-mail: bhogavil@eemips.tamu.edu
			sureshb@cs.tamu.edu
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bey
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: samsang@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Samir K. Sanghani)
Subject: Obtaining EAD : experiences
Originator: samsang@pascal.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:11:15 GMT

Hello Netters, 

One of my friends who has no access to this net has got a job offer.
He entered the university on a I-20 indicating degree sought as
doctoral. He now wants to graduate with a masters degree and apply for
EAD(Employment Authorization Document) to join the job.  Anybody with
a similar experience please contact me via e-mail or post on net. I
will summarize responses later. Your comments and help will be greatly
appreciated.

My e-mail address is :
samsang@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
or
samsang@manglam.eng.sun.com

Thanks..
Samir