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From: msvg2539@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark V.)
Subject: SALE: Sports cards/sets
Summary: Sports Cards FOr Sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:24:20 GMT
Keywords: Sports cards sale


The following prices include postage. 

All sets are hand collated.

Satisfaction guaranteed.  Direct replies to: mark@lassi.ece.uiuc.edu

BASEBALL:
********

1990 Upper Deck - Reggie Heroes set w/ header .......... $27.00

1990 Upper Deck - Reggie Heroes header ... .............. $5.00
                                                              
1993 ToppsBlackGold - Gary Sheffield #18 ................ $6.00

1992 Fleer Ultra - Series I set #1-300
        with Gwynn send-off set ........................ $31.00

Ryne Sandberg
------------- (7 cards) ................................. $5.00
1990 Leaf #98                 1989 Topps #360 
1991 Leaf Studio #158         1992 Topps #110
1992 Leaf Studio #18          1990 Fleer #40                  
                              1990 Upper Deck #324            

FOOTBALL:
********   

1992 Fleer Ultra - Award Winner inserts (3 cards) ....... $6.00 
          #7  Mike Croel 
           8  Pat Swilling 
          10  Leonard Russell

1992 Fleer Ultra - Reggie White inserts ............ each $2.00
          #7, 8, 9 and 10 available

1992 Fleer FB - Rypien Highlight inserts (16 cards) ..... $4.00
          #1(2),3(2),5(2),8,10,12(2),13(2),14(2),15(2)

1991 Upper Deck FB - GameBreaker hologram set (GB1-9) .. $10.00


HOCKEY:
******
             
1991-92 Topps Stadium Club - Complete set #1-400 ....... $35.00

1991-92 Pro Set Platinum - Series I set ................. $8.00
	                   Series II set ................ $8.00
	                   both ........................ $15.00

1991-92 UD - Award Winner holograms (8 cards) ........... $6.00
               AW4    Belfour                     
               AW8(2) Graham
               AW9(5) Lemieux                      

BASKETBALL:
**********
                                                              
1991-92 Upper Deck Lo# set #1-400 ..................... $18.00
        
1991-92 Upper Deck - Draft Picks (8 cards) ............. $6.50
            #1 Checklist         6 Terrell Brandon  
             3 Mutumbo           8 Rich King        
             4 Steve Smith      20 Doug Overton     
             5 Stacey Augmon    21 Steve Hood       

1992-93 Topps Series I set #1-198 ...................... $6.75
______________________________________________________________
mark@lassi.ece.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.collecting.cards
From: mfleeter@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S Fleeter)
Subject: UpperDeck Insert Auction Update
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:57:58 GMT

===============================================================  
=                  Mike's Auction 1/12/93                     =         
===============================================================  


---------------------------------------------------------------
Lot #1:  Upper Deck 1992 Football Walter Payton Header Card
                                  Current Bid: $10  (JP)
---------------------------------------------------------------
Lot #2:  Upper Deck 1993 Basketball Wilt Chamberlin Header
         Card 
         Wilt Cards 12,14,15,18   Minimum Bid: $16
---------------------------------------------------------------
Lot #3:  Upper Deck 1993 Basketball SP1 Card
                                  Current Bid: $9  (JP)
---------------------------------------------------------------

Rules:

No minimum raise
No time limit
Going Once,... format
Buyer pays shipping (if applicable)
Send inquiries and bids to "mfleeter@gn.ecn.purdue.edu"
From: ysu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (ya-ben su)
Subject: SALE: FLEER ULTRA BASKETBALL SET
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:01:01 GMT

I have several sets of Fleer Ultra Basketball set for sale. I am
asking $20, postage paid. E-mail me at ysu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu if
interested.

Thanks,

--Wen
From: harne@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wayne Harne)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: CARDS: Donruss Stars and Commons from 1981!
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:23:33 GMT
Reply-To: harne@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wayne Harne)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.collecting, jg10@prism.gatech.EDU (GILMORE,JOHN F) writes:
>     I am clearing out thousands of 1981 Donruss cards, all mint from wax

>packs.  My first offering is as follows:
.
.Ozzie Smith          Rod Carew         Johnny Bench       Yaz
.Robin Yount          Jim Palmer        Tom Seaver         Joe Morgan
.
.One card of each (92 Beckett Value of $12.75)  for $6 ppd! I have about 20
.sets of the above cards.
.
.Lots of 100 commons and minor stars for $3.50 ppd.  If you wish a certain
.team, I will include as many as I have for that team. The teams I have a lot
.of cards on are the Indians, Mariners, Pirates, Astros, Royals, Rangers,
.Tigers, Mets, Brewers, Angels, Padres, Cardinals, and Expos. Very few NNY,
.Orioles, A's, and Braves. NO Cubs or Blue Jays left.
.
.Have any 1981 Donruss needs? Let me know as I have 12,000 of these suckers.
.
.Please respond directly jg10@prism.gatech.edu to reserve cards. Money back
.seven day return privilege applies!
.
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.|                 John F. Gilmore                  |   INTERNET Address    |
.|   GTRI-CSITL, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA  30332   | jg10@prism.gatech.edu |
. -------------------------------------------------- -----------------------
.
Sorry readers but I have attempted to contact Mr. Gilmore in an attempt
to purchase some of his sets. His address is unnacceptable to the system.
Would Mr. Gilmore or anyone who has had contact with Mr.Gilmore please
have him get in touch with me.     Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: northcot@med.unc.edu (Robert W. Northcott)
Subject: Death of Superman Collector's Issue
Originator: northcot@nakina
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:36:03 GMT

I recently bought a still sealed collector's Death of Superman issue for
$20.  The guy I bought it from (who claimed to be #8 of the top ten east
coast collectors) said that he had heard that very day that the head of DC
Comics announced that Superman would never be ressurrected.  He then told
me (after probing) that even if he was ressurrected it would only drive
the value of the issue up more.  Later another guy told me that they were
going to bury Superman near the hole where his rocket first crashed and
some kryptonite residue would revive him.  Is all this bullshit?  What is
the current value and possible future value of this issue?  (I am not a
comics collector; this is my first comic book purchase for investment's
sake and I knew of it's supposed value only through media reporting of the
hoopla).  Contact me direct or post either is OK.  ALSO:  I DO collect
records (have been for years).  Why is there never any record collecting
stuff on this group or is there a separate group for it??
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: walsh@hurricane.cs.odu.edu (Michael J Walsh)
Subject: FASA <<Star Trek>> Miniatures
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:16:53 GMT

I'm looking for FASA Star Trek miniatures

For those in the know...  either the box sets, which surface in dollar
stores or the bubble wrapped ship variety...

If you have them in the un-opened wrappings, already painted, or just in 
very good condition e-mail me...

-Michael
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From: chim@sfu.ca (Alan Chim)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: CARDS: Updated Prices McDonald/UD Hockey
Date: 7 Jan 1993 00:28:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi.  Sorry for another post, but I just finished off some major trading
and I just want to clear out my remaining singles.  Here's an updated
list of what I still have and my reduced prices.  Please contact me if
you're interested in anything.

1993 McDonald NHL All-Stars -- Singles

$1.00 -- Lemieux
$0.75 -- Jagr, Fedorov, Mogilny, Roenick, Sakic, Robitaille, Belfour
$0.50 -- Bellows, Chelios, Damphousse, Fleury, Housley, Linden
         Coffey
$0.25    Beaupre, Cullen, Hatcher

Multiples of most of the above cards are available.

Packs are still available at $2/pack.  All holograms are still available
(feel free to make an offer).  All sets have been sold.  Postage costs
are still the same.

Thanks.

Alan.
chim@sfu.ca
From: jg10@prism.gatech.EDU (GILMORE,JOHN F)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: CARDS: Conlon Collection Trade
Keywords: baseball
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:03:08 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


     I have one unopened 1991 Conlon Collection set (1-330) to trade for one
1992 UNOPENED set.  We each pay our own postage.  Thanks
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|                 John F. Gilmore                  |   INTERNET Address    |
|   GTRI-CSITL, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA  30332   | jg10@prism.gatech.edu |
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Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: bhill@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: CARDS: 1993 Topps
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:56:54 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


[Sorry about the last post, my editor screwed up]

There are 22 BlackGold cards in the series one (A/B) subset.

There are two additional cards in the BlackGold subset.  One may
be turned in for 11 BlackGold cards.  The other (the most rare)
May be turned in for all 22 BlackGold cards.

Out of two boxes I received for Christmas, I was lucky enough to
get a Gary Sheffield BlackGold card, and the 22 Card winner.

It's kind of funny, on the 22 Card Winner, they say to turn in the
card with $1.50 for a set of 22 BlackGold cards.  If you turn in
10 or more, you can redeem the sets for $1.00 each. The chances
of finding one of these cards is 1:780.  Like your really going to
get your hands on 10 of them...

Now that I have the set from Series 1, the trick is to find another
22 card winner from Series 2 :-)

--Brian
From: CCSM@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCSM)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: CARDS: Need McDonalds holograms & Manon Rheaume cards
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:21:36 GMT
Organization: McGill University

Hi you all,

So, I've had my share of Big Macs for the year and I still
need the following cards:

(2) Robitaille
(2) Hull Hologram
(3) Bourque Hologram
(2) Roy

I have many to trade (no checklist or holograms), and
I am willing to trade 2 or 3 cards for 1 hologram,
so lets see if we can make a trade.

Also, I am looking for some Manon Rheaume cards.  If you
have any for sale or trade, let me know.

Suzanne
CCSM@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: cards for trade sale
From: surf@netlink.cts.com (Tony Rosa)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 00:13:58 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

The following is a list of cards I have for trade or sale(I prefer trade)
all cards are mint in card gards going straight from packs into them.  
Mail me if you have any questions.  I only collect topps baseball cards 
from 1951 to present and should be able to work something out with you if 
need be.  The prices for sales are 75% of beckett's.  But trades have 
priority.  8)

1992 TSC
#770 nolan ryan (2)
#605 nolan ryan MC (3)
#760 plantier
#309 sheffield
#776 sheffield (2)
#593 clemens MC
#592 justice MC (2)
#500 puckett (3)
#475 mcguire (2)
#460 will clark (2)
#598 clark (2)
#370 canseco MC (2)
#129 van poppel 
#630 claytonn
#757 listach (2)
#814 fleming (2)
#301 thomas (2)
#695 lofton
#327 eldred (2)
#595 ripken
#400 griffey jr.
#839 zupcic
#830 knoblauch
#606 bagwell
bagwell is MC
#610 bonds (2)

1991 TSC
#558 glavine
#472 nagy
#537 lankford
#366 jose
#501 appier

1987 topps
#420 canseco
I mean clark
#620 canseco

1989 topps
#784 avery #1 draft pick

1954 bowman
#34 white

1953 archives 
#224 mays

mail me if interested, thanks tr
8)

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From: guerinre@vx.cis.umn.edu (RICHARD E GUERIN)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: CARDS: Looking to buy Team Pinnacle B hockey cards
Date: 10 Jan 93 07:45:00 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I'm looking to buy one each of the 1991-92 Score Team Pinnacle B
hockey cards numbers 1 (Roy), 3 (Leetch), 5 (Lemieux), 6 (Neely),
7 (Ranford), 8 (MacInnis), 9 (Chelios), and 10 (Robitaille).

I'd be willing to purchase these, or I can come up with trades for
these cards.  I have mostly hockey and football cards, but I do 
have some baseball and basketball as well.  I'd also be willing to
purchase them if the price is right. 

Send any offers for sale along with card number and asking price or
trade wants to: GUERINRE@VX.CIS.UMN.EDU

Thanks!

Richie G
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: siejko@rtc.atk.com (Kris Siejko)
Subject: CARDS: Kris's auction update
Organization: Alliant Techsystems, Inc., Mpls, MN
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:36:27 GMT

New Jeff Bagwell lot has been added this week:

- High Beckett prices include grade deductions
- Postage IS included in the winning bid.


			High Beckett           Min/High Bid
_________________________________________________________________________
====++++++++++++++++             ^
Lot 1  Greg Maddux        $10.00 |               $7.50    Pat G.
====++++++++++++++++     				  GOING ONCE....
RCs and Premium issues					  GOING TWICE....
							  SOLD!!!
	87D  #36 RC           (His only true RC)	
	87F  Update U68 XRC*  (Nicely centered)
	89UD #241 	      (MINT)
	91   StadiumClub #126 (MINT)

====+++++++++++++++++
Lot 2  Ryne Sandberg      $4.25                  $4.50    Doug S.
====+++++++++++++++++					  GOING ONCE.... 

92D; 92D AS; 91D (2)x(Ex); 90D (2)x#BC-10(Ex-Mt);
90T (EX); 89T; 89T (ExMt); 
91L ;
90S (2)x(Ex-Mt); 91S (2)xMANYR(Ex); 91S (ExMt); 91S (4)xAS 
91F; 90F (ExMt); 89F (ExMt); 

22 cards total

====+++++++++++++++++
Lot 3  Kirby Puckett      $8.00                  $5.75
====+++++++++++++++++
Fleer Ultra

91FU #195 
92FU #97  (NrMt-Mt)
92FU Award Winner #23 (NrMT)                    
     (all 4 corners sharp with 
      very slight "ding" in upper left corner with a dot of white)


====++++++++++++++++
Lot 4 Jeff Bagwell       ~$10.00                 $3.00
====++++++++++++++++

92T Gold (non-winner) #520  (MINT)
91Studio #172 RC 
_________________________________________________________________________

- Minimum bid increase is .50

- All cards at least NrMt unless otherwise noted

- Using the going once, going twice method, with a deadline set for Friday
  Jan. 15 at 4pm Cst, at which time any active lots go to the highest bidder.
- weekends count as one day

- Satisfaction Guaranteed or your money will be refunded.

- email bids to siejko@rtc.atk.com
_____________________________________________________________________________
Kris Siejko
Alliant Techsystems, Inc.
Hopkins MN
From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Medallions for sale
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:24:00 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.976


 
                  ****  MAKE OFFERS  ***
 
I have one of each of the following Bronze coin medallions, from Hallmark
Minting (197?) available.  Each one has a GOLD neck chain (12 or 18 ct);
but the holder, itself, is, I believe, gold-plated pewter.  I have seen
them at shows, etc. *very* rarely; and when I have, they were withOUT the
chains and priced from $20 (Conan)-$300 (Trek) each.  They are about the
size of an old US silver dollar.
 
           Amazing Spider-Man
           Conan the Barbarian
           Incredible Hulk
           STAR TREK
 
Please email me at Zardoz@sycom.MI.ORG or dwl@deep.mi.org with your offer(s).
Thanx, Dave.
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: Indicate heading in caps in Subject [was: To all people who read ...]
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:52:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

In <1993Jan5.070514.13089@ousrvr.oulu.fi> dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.054438.9918@muddcs.claremont.edu> byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau) writes:
>>In article <Jan.4.11.48.55.1993.13643@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:
>>>on or about approximately january 6, the group rec.collecting.cards
>>> will begin.  all card collectors (be it postcard, sports cards,
>>> non sports cards, etc.) are encouraged to post in the new group
>>> only, and NOT to cross-post in rec.collecting.

>>I have a question..   what about ANY type of sports memorabilia?  I have usually 
>>headers for any sale of Sports Memorablia (jerseys, baseballs, Starting Line-
>>Up, etc.) with a C*A*R*D*S header as well..

>>so does Sports Memorabilia of all types (including cards) go to Rec.Collecting.
>>Cards?

>I believe that rec.collecting.cards if for cards collectors.  Certainly
>you should put non-card sports collecting stuff in rec.collecting .  But
>put "SPORTS:" in the header to alert those interested in sports stuff,
>and to allow those disinterested to automatically ignore it by having
>SPORTS in their kill file.

>>Ben Yau    byau@jarthur.claremont.edu	          SHHHTEENKEE FOO FOO


>-- 
>doug foxvog     
>dfo@tko.vtt.fi   


Hmmm....that will mean that those folks looking to collect SPORTS ON STAMPS
(a very popular topic!)  will be in a quandry... :<

Crystal
  :>
From: eddie@acpy01.att.com (Eddie Adamko (CXNIXPT1))
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: CARDS: Santa card
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:56:09 GMT
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)


Hi,

	I was wondering if anyone has a extra 1991 Pro_line Santa.
Please let me know, on what we can trade/sell.

Thanks Eddie

PS. 1992 information on Santa would be apreciated also.

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 EEEEEEEEE  DDDDDDDDD   |
 E       E  D      DD   |eddie@acpy01.att.com        |
 E EEEEEEE  D DDDD  D   |                            |
 E EEEEEEE  D DDDDD D   |Year Of The YANKEES..92..;) |
 E     EEE  D DDDDD D   |			     |
 E EEEEEEE  D DDDDD D   |Miami Dolphins in ...93.... |
 E EEEEEEE  D DDDD  D   |			     |
 E       E  D      DD   |Princeton Tigers IVY CHAMPS |
 EEEEEEEEE  DDDDDDDDD   |Long Awaited BRUCE ALBUM 92 |
-----------------------------------------------------|
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Dr Who Paperbacks -- No Reasonable Offer Refused
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:58:49 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA


     Label     Title                         Condition
                                        Mint = M
                                        Near Mint= NM
                                        OK = Cosmetic Damage
               Dalek Invasion Of Earth       M
               Dominators                    NM   
               Marco Polo                    NM
               Mysterious Planet             NM
               Myth Makers                   NM
               Planet Of Fire                OK
               Terror Of The Autons          NM
               The Twin Dilemma              OK
               The Aztecs                    M
               The Zarbi                     M
               The Daleks                    OK
               The Mark Of The Rani          NM
               Unearthly Child               NM
Pinnacle       Android Invasion              OK 1nd & 2ndprinting
               Dinosaur Invasion             OK
               Doomsday Terror               OK
               Genesis Of The Daleks         OK
               Loch Ness Monster             NM
               Masque of Mandragora          OK
               Day Of The Daleks             M
               Revenge Of The Cybermen       OK
               Seeds Of Doom                 NM
               Talons Of Weng Chiang         NM
Ballantine
Find Your Fate Race Against Time             M
FASA           
Solo Play      Dr W:  Vortex Crystal(4rth dr)     NM
               Dr W: Rebel's Gamble  (6th dr)     OK      

Target         2nd Dr W Quiz Book            M
               Harry Sullivan's War
-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: jorr@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jim Orr)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Good time to buy (Silver Coins)
Keywords: Silver, Coins
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:51:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR Corporation - Dayton, OH USA


In reply to mcovington@aisun3.ai.uga.edu, I read in 'Coinage' that
due to the (hopefully) recovering economy, now is a good time 
to get into many investment quality items, including gold and silver.
Mostly, they recommended undervalued common date coins such as half
dimes, half dollars, and Silver Dollars. 

Of course, its still all speculative, but if you're a collector,
you don't always do it for the money, right?? 

Along another thread, if anyone has info on the numismat BBS, I too
would be interested.

Jim Orr
Dayton, OH

(The reply function on my machine is broken, so all I can do is post... :(
From: ernest@think.com (Ernie Botte)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Cards: looking for UD hereos...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 22:19:13 -0500
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation



   I am looking to buy/sell/trade upperdeck hereos.I am looking for the
following right now.... West, Payton, Bench/Morgan, Wilt. I am also looking
to buy headers from any/all UD hereos series as well as some singles. I
have something from everything to trade. 

-Ernie

ernest@think.com
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Death of Superman Collector's Issue
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:21:37 GMT

>|> 3. the method of return is not known yet. the one you list is not really
>|> likely. Since Kryptionite is harmful, I don't think putting him near the
>|> stuff is going to help bring him back. There were rumours going around
>|> that he was going to be cloned. In some cases it was reported that he
>|> would come back as four different ethnic clones. DC comics has since
>|> qualished this rumour.
>
>Well, the story I've heard is that, after the end of the Funeral for a Friend
>story, a new miniseries called "The Legacy of Superman" will begin, in
>which a new time-traveling hero named Wave Rider is going to go back in
>time to save Superman before he died.  But then, this may be any more correct
>than the above, but I thought I'd just say what I've heard.

My apologies for dragging this discussion into this group, but I figured
I would post one last time about the subject. If anyone is interested,
try rec.arts.comics.misc. Anyway, the time travel thing was just a
diversion put out to get people thinking about it. Apparently it was on
Entertainment Tonight, Monday, on how they plan on bringing him back. It
involves Pa Kent dying as well, the 2 meeting at the Pearly Gates and
using their love for one another to get sent back (you can get sick now
if you want). Unfortunately, things get mixed up and Superman inhabits
the wrong body. The storyline develops on which person is the real Supes
because ther are 4 different people claiming to be him.

There are probably errors here, but I think this is how it goes. Most
comics are better than this, trust me.

_craig     
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