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From: burgoyne@access.digex.com (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Adobe Caslon Expert (#181) Who's Using it and Whaddaya Think?
Date: 1 Jan 1993 22:13:32 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
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I wrote a book and used Adobe Caslon. It came out well and now we're
getting ready to print 1000 copies. I was thinking of investing in
the above mentioned font #181 to really make thinks look professional.

This book is done with Word for Windows, and I use Aldus Pagemaker for
many other projects. Comments, etc. are appreciated.



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From: chesnutt@adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: desire "Architect" PostScript font
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:44:28 GMT
Organization: Tuesday Weld Fan Club

"Architect" is probably a clone of the Adobe typeface called "Tekton".

I have seen the "Architect" font in use on a Mac, but I did not look closely
enough to see if it was an exact copy or if the designer modified the original
design in producing the copy.

Adobe's Tekton is not a public-domain font.  It is in Type-1 format (or
"PostScript" format) and is available from Adobe Systems.  Call 1-800-83-FONTS
for ordering information.

In article <1hij81INN8ns@CS.UTK.EDU> bass@cs.utk.edu (Vance Bass) writes:
>I have seen (a) an advertisement for a TrueType font called "Architect", which
>resembles hand-lettering in the style seen on architectural or engineering
>plans, and (b) this font used in a publication which I know was produced on
>a Mac.
>
>Point (b) leads me to believe that this font is probably available in a
>PostScript version.  The advertisement refered to in (a) was for free or
>shareware fonts, so I presume that the PostScript should also be in the
>public domain or available as shareware.
>
>Can someone point me to a source for the PostScript "Architect" font?
>
>thanks,
>  Vance
>-- 
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+        
>Vance Bass			  Reply-to: vrbass@atlvmic1.vnet.ibm.com     
>IBM Professional Services	I work for IBM.  My opinions are my own.
>Nashville, TN				 The facts speak for themselves.


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 Stan Chesnutt,  Adobe Systems			      chesnutt@mv.us.adobe.com
From: ah395@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey T. Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: desire "Architect" PostScript font
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:12:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah395@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey T. Hansen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bass@cs.utk.edu (Vance Bass) says:

>Thanks for the pointer to "Tekton".  I found a font purporting to be a
>PostScript "Architect" on ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.84]. 
>The font unpacks, apparently successfully, under PC-DOS using PKUNZIP, but
>the .PFB and .PS files are screwy.  Perhaps this is a result of trying to
>pack a Mac file into a DOS archive?
>
>Has anyone else had any success with this font?  I'd write the author, but
>his address in the readme file got munged along with the font.  I'd appreciate
>any confirmations and/or work-arounds.
>

I've used this 'architect' font in both MS Windows and on the Mac.  There
are two versions of the font on CICA, architec.zip and arc13p.zip.  The
two are the same font, one unpacks to .pfm and .pfb files and the other
is a .sit file that you use for the Mac.  Darned if I remember which is 
which, only that they are the same.

As an architect, though, it's not quite what we call suitable.  Certainly
it's hand lettered, but it's not of the style that architectural draftsmen
learn and use on construction documents.  Which leads me to my question.

I've got a suitable hand letter font that we use in AutoCAD, but it's 
an AutoCAD .shx file, which is a compiled 'shape' file.  What that means
is each individual stroke of the character is defined in an AutoCAD
specific file format, and then compiled so that it is usable in AutoCAD.
I'm interested in translating this font into a Postscript font, but before
I plunk down my hard earned and taxed dollars, I'd like to know the best
way of doing this.  My options, assuming there is not a direct program
out there that reads shape files and translates them, is to take a 
drawing file from AutoCAD and piping it through a font creation utility
such as fontographer or fontmonger.  Is this possible?  Has anyone
tried this yet?  

AutoCAD release 12 supports postscript fonts, but only in outline form.
There is much more one can do with a filled font, and being able to go
both ways would be a bonus, in my estimation.  

Anyone?


-- 
ah395@cleveland.freenet.edu
Jeffrey T. Hansen
Not affiliated with Case Western Reserve University

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: bukh@stack.serpukhov.su (Yuri Bukhtiyarov)
Subject: WANTED: Cyrillic fonts for Sigma Plot 4.0 or 5.0
Organization: The Institute of Biochemistry And Physiology of Microorganisms, Russian Academy of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:34:06 GMT



I wonder if somebody out there could provide me with Cyrillic fonts
for Sigma Plot ver. 4.0 or 5.0. I'll also appreciate any information on
how could I create the fonts for Sigma Plot by myself, any font maker
software and so on.
Thanks in advance,
--
Yuri

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts,gnu.misc.discuss
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Adobe's SuperATM?
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:41:03 GMT
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc.

In article <bauer-221292104025@134.60.68.23>, bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de
(Christian Bauer) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Dec18.164726.18408@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
> toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (prufrock) wrote:
> > 
> > Saw an ad for this recently; apparently, it's a package deal that includes
> > ATM 3.0, Adobe Type Reunion, the Type On Call CD-ROM, and "two multiple master
> > type faces for substitution" (the MacConnection brochure is marketing the
> > package as a way to "automatically create substitute fonts for typefaces you
> > don't have"...).
> > 
> > Anyone know WHICH "two multiple master type faces" are going to be included?
> > 
> > I don't expect much for $89 list, but if they're interesting I'll look into
> > it.
> 
The two fonts are called 'Adobe Sans' and 'Adobe Serif'.  I believe that
they are not available except with the SuperATM package, but that may be
wrong.  

.........................................................................
Paul Marcos                                                (415) 966-0873
Kaleida Labs, Inc.                                     marcos@kaleida.com
.........................................................................
Xref: sparky comp.fonts:3764 comp.text.tex:14453
From: karl@cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Definitive list of all fonts available for Metafont
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:09:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.KARL.92Dec23190945
	<1992Dec18.175530.22471@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Reply-To: karl@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston


    |> There are some more Computer Modern variants stored at ymir; these
    |> include parameters for generating cm fonts at sizes 14, 18, 24 and 36pt.
    |> ftp: ymir.claremont.edu (134.173.4.23): cd [anonymous.tex.mf.cm.variants]
    ...

    Where are these fonts? Definitely not at [anonymous.tex.mf.cm.variants], since
    this directory does not exist. And not in the [anonymous.tex.font] tree.

This sounds like the ``sauter'' distribution, which I maintain these
days.  (John Sauter at DEC did all the original work.)  It allows
generation of Computer Modern (and other typefaces based on CM) fonts at
any point size.

ftp.cs.umb.edu:pub/tex/sauter.tar.Z.

--
karl@cs.umb.edu
Member of the League for Programming Freedom---write to lpf@uunet.uu.net.
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: Seek good monospace screen font for MS-Windows
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:51:37 GMT

I'm looking for a good, clear monospace screen font for use in the
terminal window of Procomm/Win.  I run at 1024x768 resolution, and I
find all the terminal fonts supplied with PC/W, and all those otherwise
available on my system, to be either too small or too big (of course
Courier New and other TT faces can be scaled as desired, but I don't
have one that is very readable).  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

-- 
Richard Reiner..............rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca..............416-538-3947
From: "Gary Hopkins" <wk00624@psilink.com>
Subject: Source for American Uncial
Organization: Gary Hopkins Typesetting
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:02:41 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Does anyone know of a source for American Uncial, the calligraphic face? 
I have a shareware "version" which has a similar name but isn't high 
enough quality. I need it in type 1, for Macintosh.

Thanksalot!

Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.lang.postscript
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: WANTED: BDF to PostScript Type 3 converter
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:47:05 GMT

Does anyone have a freely redistributable C/UNIX converter that
reads Adobe 2.1 (or X) BDF files and generates Adobe Type 3 fonts
using imagemask to render the bitmaps?  [I didn't find anything
even remotely similar described in the FAQs.  :-( ]

					-=EPS=-
-- 
"If you need to ask, you don't want to know."
From: bp167@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert E. Deneefe)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Prospective MoreFonts buyers please read
Date: 21 Dec 1992 20:36:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I bought MoreFonts by Micrologic Software for my PC this
weekend.  A major factor in my decision was the fact that
(supposedly) it could read Postscript Type 1 format fonts.
At least that is what the back of the box says, but I guess
it's ok for companies to put anything back there, even if it is
untrue.  So I get home and read the manual, but it enerv mentions
using Postscript fonts. Hmmm.  I call tech support and they
tell me their product can do it, but it'll be an extra $39.95!
I tell them the back of the box explicitly says it can read
Postscript fonts and there is no mention of an extra cost.  They
just ask for my credit card number so I can order one. :(
Needless to say, I have already taken back the software and got my
money back.  So, anyone else thinking about buying this to
read Postscript fonts (like the ^%#$^& back says) think again.

 Robert

too annoyed for a cute sig
From: bkph@kauai.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: 35 LaserWriter II fonts wanted (for NeXT)
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:38:34 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: kauai.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu's message of Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:58:05 GMT


In article <BzzDwu.FpA@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:

	....

   Actually, Adobe sells the Plus Pack by the printer, and a
   quick glance at the legalese ("1. Scope of Use") backs
   that up.  We bought two copies for use here (we have two
   NeXTprinters) on several NeXTs and that looks like the
   right way to do things.  In fact, the salesguy asked us why
   we needed two copies. :-)

That may be so on the NeXT with Display PostScript.  But somebody claimed
here recently that Adobe fonts may be restricted to use with one copy of ATM
also.  The difference in interpretation could be quite significant in a
place with say one printer and 20 Mac or IBM PC compatible  machines!  
Maybe somebody from Adobe would care to clarify this?  


Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Document explaining fonts under Windows/Pagemaker ?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:30:45 GMT

In the not too distant future I may have to start doing a lot of work
with pagemaker under windows.  I've never used either package.  I've
see words like Truetype and ATM floating around, but always ignored
them, because they never applied to me (I personally use TeX).

Is there a document FTP'able from somewhere that explains how fonts
work in the world of Windows?  Does Pagemaker use its own fonts or
those available under Windoes?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,gnu.misc.discuss
From: freek@phil.ruu.nl (Freek Wiedijk)
Subject: Re: "Hinting" using antialiasing? A GNUish alternative...
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:02:03 GMT

pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes:
>However, given that in most common day use one uses only two sets of
>fonts, one for the screen and one for printer, I am particularly
>thinking of keeping around printer resolution bitmaps, which are the
>ones that after all matter most, and then scaling them on the fly to the
>screen resolution.

This seems to correspond nicely with the "rule of thumb" on page 643
in the second edition of Foley, van Dam, &c:

  Note that, no matter what filter is used to postfilter the samples,
  damage caused by an inadequate initial sampling rate will not be
  repaired.  A rule of thumb is that supersampling four times in each
  of _x_ and _y_ often will be satisfactory [WHIT85].  This works
  because the high frequencies in most graphics images are caused by
  discontinuities at edges, which have a Fourier transform that tapers
  off rapidly (like the Fourier transform of a pulse---the sinc).

This factor of four is almost equal to the factor 300/72 between the
resolution of the commonest printers and that of the commonest
screens.  (Note that "letters" have sharp edges.)

Freek
--
Third theory of Phenomenal Dynamics:  The difference between
a symbol and an object is quantitative, not qualitative.
From: wbogue@cwis.unomaha.edu (Willie Bogue)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: TrueType vs. PostScript
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:29:17 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

I use a Mac SE w/ 4 megs RAM and a 40 meg hard disk. I print on an HP
DeskWriter. I'm running System 7.1 and ATM2.03.

As you probably know, a few fonts come in both Type 1 and TT formats.
Is one preferable to the other?

Thanx for any info you can give me.

Willie
wbogue@cwis.unomaha.edu
Xref: sparky comp.fonts:3797 gnu.misc.discuss:4115
From: francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.desktop
Subject: Re: "Hinting" using antialiasing? A GNUish alternative...
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:21:56 GMT
Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France)

In article <PCG.92Dec27211507@decb.aber.ac.uk> pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes:
>On 25 Dec 92 17:48:17 GMT, freek@phil.ruu.nl (Freek Wiedijk) said:
>
>freek> From Steward Brand's `the Media Lab', pages 170-172, reproduced
>freek> without permission:
>
>freek> The Media Lab has in its history a fine example of wrong exploit-
>freek> ing---an excellent, simple idea, instantly applicable, available
>freek> free to anyone, that has sat on the shelf, in plain view of the
>freek> world since 1971.  Called Fuzzy Fonts, it is a cheap, easy way to
>freek> have much higher resolution print on computer and TV screens.
>
>Aw gosh! This is really dumb! Marketing wise, calling "Fuzzy Fonts"
>something that actually enhances apparent resolution is both wrong and a
>terrible turn off! Imagine: "do you want Fuzzy Fonts on your screen?" to
>which the answer is "surely not, those I have got are already too fuzzy".
>
>freek> With a normal IBM or Macintosh screen they were something like 60
>freek> percent less efficient than on paper.  Then they anti- aliased
>freek> the fonts and put in the same kinds of errors, and people came up
>freek> with 98 percent of the efficiency of paper.
>
>Ah, thanks for the quote. Antialiasing fans, including the folks at
>Acorn, will be much relieved.
>
>freek> Fuzzy Fonts may be the Media Lab's single most proven commercial
>freek> idea.  Why it had to wait till 1987 to become a product is a
>freek> mystery.
>
>Are they thinking of the ARM?
>
>freek> (Apple finally introduced Fuzzy Fonts on their second- generation
>freek> Macintosh computers in spring, 1987, followed by IBM.)
>
>Anybody knows anybody about this?

I for one would pass out if I could have this technology for doing
DTP. Does anyone have more information? What is "followed by IBM"...
I don't think I've ever seen anti-aliased fonts on Mac or IBM.


-- 
| Le Jojo: Fresh 'n' Clean, speaking out to the way you want to live
| today; American - All American; doing, a bit so, and even more so.
From: asloss@eoe.co.uk (Andrew Sloss)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Any UNICODE Fonts ?
Keywords: UNICODE
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:24:10 GMT
Organization: EO Europe Limited, Cambridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

- Any UNICODE fonts available Public or Non-Public Domain 
  Outline or bit-mapped ?

Andrew Sloss
EO Europe Ltd.
From: os@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Olaf Stoyke)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: REFONT - current version?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 09:36:46 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: athene.cs.tu-berlin.de

	Hello!

  I know about REFONT version 1.1 but I think I've heard about version 1.4.
  If there's a version 1.4, where can I get it, what are the differences?

	Thank you id advance, Olaf.

------------------------------ os@cs.tu-berlin.de -------------------------------
                Olaf Stoyke, Wexstr. 33, 1000 Berlin 31, Germany.
   Modula-2 is a solution, whereas C is part of the problem (Gute Nachrichten)
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From: manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Math Fonts
Date: 29 Dec 1992 13:47:53 -0800
Organization: Institute for Pure and Applied Eschatology
NNTP-Posting-Host: columbia.cs.ubc.ca

In article <1682@applix.com> bobz@applix.com (Bob Zabielski [ext 235]) writes:
>Does anyone know of fonts for setting mathematical expressions (which
>are better specialized for the purpose than, for instance, Adobe's
>Symbol) ??  

What you want is Bigelow & Holmes' Lucida Bright family, which includes
Lucida Bright, a very pleasant text typeface, Lucida Sans, Lucida Sans
Typewriter (a fixed-width typewriter face), and Lucida Fax (suitable for
low-resolution rendering). It also includes four Lucida New Math faces,
which support everything TeX/Latex/AMSTeX have. The result, especially
if you're writing a CS textbook, including text, programs, and math, is
most harmonious. 

These faces are part of the Microsoft TT Font Pack 1. I use the Type 1
versions from Y&Y (106 Indian Hill, Carlisle, MA, 01741, (508)
371-3286), which are properly encoded for use with both TeX and Windows
programs. (In re the latter, be warned that Ami Pro's math typesetter
refuses to handle any math typeface other than Symbol: and people wonder
why some of us stick with TeX...)

Disclaimer: I have no connection with Y&Y, other than using their
products. 
-- 
\    Vincent Manis <manis@cs.ubc.ca>      "There is no law that vulgarity and
 \   Computer Science, Langara College     literary excellence cannot coexist."
 /\  100 W. 49th Ave, Vancouver, BC, Canada (604) 324-5205  -- A. Trevor Hodge
/  \ Co-author of ``The Schematics of Computation'', Prentice-Hall, Jan 1994
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,gnu.misc.discuss
From: mokler@desert.in-berlin.de (Claudius Mokler)
Subject: Re: "Hinting" using antialiasing? A GNUish alternative...
Organization: Private Site
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:38:10 GMT

I remember having seen a MS-Windows screen driver for a special
'continuous edge graphics' palette chip (by Analog Devices), which uses
anti-aliasing for displaying fonts.
The effect was that it was possible to display a text which normally fits
only to 800x600 displays (to be legible) on a 640x480 display and the
text being MORE legible than aliased with higher resolution ....

Maybe this is a useful experience ...
-- 
Claudius Mokler
e-mail mokler@desert.in-berlin.de

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From: tribioli@arcetri.astro.it (Francesco Tribioli)
Subject: Sonata ATM 
Organization: Osservatorio di Arcetri - Firenze
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:38:04 GMT


Can anyone tell me where can I find the Adobe font Sonata in DOS compatible
format? I need it for Finale. Thanks a lot,

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: Re: Seek good monospace screen font for MS-Windows
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:59:47 GMT

I wrote:

>I'm looking for a good, clear monospace screen font for use in the
>terminal window of Procomm/Win.  I run at 1024x768 resolution, and I
>find all the terminal fonts supplied with PC/W, and all those otherwise
>available on my system, to be either too small or too big (of course
>Courier New and other TT faces can be scaled as desired, but I don't
>have one that is very readable).  Any suggestions?

...and half an hour found I an excellent but non-obvious solution.  In
case others are interested, here it is.

     - Get woafon13.zip from cica's fonts directory, and install the
     fonts as directed.

     - This makes extra sizes of the Terminal font available in
     Procomm/Win's Setup.Terminal.Font dialog (as well as in DOS
     windows).  But there's a gotcha: the extra sizes you've just
     installed do *not* get listed in PC/W's listbox (although they *do*
     get listed in DOS windows).  They're there, though, and PC/W uses
     them just fine if type in the sizes.  I find 12 point to be ideal
     on my 1024x768 display: the characters are *easier* to read than
     the much larger characters the PCPlus SS font produces at 12
     points.

-- 
Richard Reiner..............rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca..............416-538-3947

Newsgroups: comp.fonts