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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 14:49:39 -0400 
From: Steven Ritter <sr0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Quadra compatibility

I earlier asked:

>Is there a known incompatibility between the Alysis compatibility init
>for the quadra and Superclock?

Since no one else seemed to have this problem, I did a little more
checking. Turns out that the following inits (and no others) cause the
problem (running a program that's incompatible with the cache and
clicking on the superclock causes a crash):

BeHierarchic 1.0.2
MediaManagerInit 2.23   [used with Mirror Syquest drive]
Superclock 3.9.1
Alysis Compatibility Init 2.2
System 7 Tuneup 1.1.1

Removing any of the first three clears up the problem. Also, using
BeHierarchic 1.0.5 clears up the problem, but it creates a different
one: Sometimes, when running a program that's incompatible with the
cache, selecting something from the apple menu (like a control panel)
takes about a minute. The menu goes away, and the apple stays
highlighted until the CP comes up. Once, when I tested this, the system
crashed after the CP came up.

Of course, using a different set of inits causes this problem:

BeHierarchic 1.0.2 OR SuperClock 3.9.1 [or both]
Alysis Compatibility Init 2.2
System 7 Tuneup 1.1.1
File Sharing Extension
Network Extension

If I remove both BeHierarchic and Superclock, everything seems to work
fine. If I use the Apple Cache Control instead of Compatibility Init,
everything works fine, no matter what inits I run (but Cache Control is
a pain). For now, I've turned off BeHierarchic and Superclock, but if
anyone has any information about this, I'd appreciate it.

Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: zben@ni.umd.edu (Charles B. Cranston)
Subject: Re: news
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: UM Home for the Terminally Analytical
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:31:55 GMT

In article <1424.2AA07819@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG>,
Mary.Hicks@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mary Hicks)
*MIGHT have written:
 
> All jews should be shot in the head. They control the media and... 

All people who post racist bizvac* to inappropriate groups
should be forced to wear concrete mittens and use a Dvorak
keyboard.

zben@ni.umd.edu     -KA3ZDF

* Bizvac - World War II term for army paperwork only useful
in situations where toilet paper is not available.  See also
Kurt Vonnegut's "Wrang-wrang", a person whose only usefulness
in life is as a bad example for others on how *NOT* to be.
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Empty folder not empty and can't be trashed...traced.
Summary: I've tracked the problem to vantage 1.61
Keywords: vantage delete locked in use trash
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:13:36 GMT

Seems to be my week for discoveries!!!

If you have Vantage (commercial McSink) 1.61 you may have seen this
problem...

(System 7.01, Tuneup 1.1.1)

Create a new folder, copy a file of type/creator TEXT/McSk into it,
double-click on the file in the new folder, quit the Vantage editor
(command-Q), drag the new folder to the trash. Empty the trash and
see a "can't delete folder cos it is locked or in-use" message. The
new folder in the trash is now empty and even restarting the finder
(from macsbug) does not clear the in-use flag. Reboot the mac or
dismount/remount the volume containing the new folder to enable you
to empty the trash.

Could someone out there in net land duplicate this for me please?

I'm using silver-volumes from LaCie to partition my disk, is that a
factor?

email me and I'll summarise for the net (and Baseline Publishers).

--alen
alen@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: schwim@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Rosebud)
Subject: Security Concerns (Was Re: news)
Organization: The Land of Chocolate
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:47:28 GMT

	Many screensavers, such as after dark, darkside, and screenlocker,
provide password protection for your unattended Macintosh.  If you are
gone for a long while, it's best to log out if people with poor taste and
no understanding have access to your computer.
	I'm not sure what interface Fidonet has, but any decent newsreader
allows you to cancel articles posted from your account.  If you do not have
this ability, look into getting a usenet account instead.  Unix accounts
running under tcsh have an autologout and lockout feature that give you 
some degree of security from malicious people posting from your account.
	As to the infantile reject who wrote the letter, please learn your
capitalization, grammar, rhetoric, and human understanding.  You owe
a public apology to Mary and to the entire network.  Of course, you are
too cowardly to do this, so go crawl back to your sewer.

			Larry Schwimmer
			schwim@xenon.stanford.edu
From: pfterry@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: QuicKeys to access POP-up menus?
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:33:05 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <92241.005127TOGE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, TOGE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Nobukazu Toge) writes:

> Is there a QuicKeys extension that allows to access pop-up menus
> in a sequence, etc?  I know that I can use Menu/DA... to access
> pull-down menus from the main menu bar.  But that one doesn't help
> in the case of pop-up menus.
> 
> Whether positive or negative, I would appreciate some clarifying
> words from people in the know.
> 
> - Nobu Toge (KEK, ex-SLAC)


Unfortunately, there isn't. You should try the pop-up menus in
question. I've found that QuicKeys can select some (the layout pop-up
in Filemaker Pro, for instance). I know that this is a planned fix for
the next full revision of the program.

Fred
 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, Kansas Geological Survey
1930 Constant Ave., Lawrence, KS  66047
pfterry@cyberpunk.kgs.ukans.edu
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen)
Subject: PowerBook & clicking sounds
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:33:53 GMT

Hello world,

Can someone please point me to a utility which can force a PowerBook
to leave its sound chip on, to prevent the evil clicking sounds?
I'm trying to use outSPOKEN, and the amount of clicking is equivalent
to a dull roar sounding almost like static!

Please e-mail me, as I rarely get to read this group.

Thanks in advance!

_________________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. Nielsen                    Internet : anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Computer Support Officer             AppleLink: AUST0190
Winthrop Technology                  
The University of Western Australia                    Tel: +61-9-3801757
NEDLANDS WA 6009   AUSTRALIA                           FAX: +61-9-3821688
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: Re: WARNING !
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:19:57 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <Btps08.12s@news.udel.edu> johnston@me.udel.edu writes:

> When I spoke to Third Wave when looking into expansion options
> for the SE/30, they made a point of telling me that the box
> doesn't work with the Radius Rocket.  They volunteered the 
> information both times I called them, because I mentioned that
> I was interested in an accelerator card.  I find it hard to 
> believe that they would do otherwise for another customer;
> it seems more likely that this is a case of miscommunication.

I've dealt with the folks at Third Wave several times, and they've
always been quite forthright about the capabilities of what they sell. 
They usually send me a FAX when their pricing changes, which I then
give to the local campus conulating center.

The most recent FAX I got from them (a few months back), had some note
with it that claimed that the Radius Rocket -would- work in a NB4, but
only when the NB4 was connected to a IIci.  The main of it said that
they -believed- it would work on any Mac that had 32-bit clean ROMs
(ROMs mind you, not MODE32 patched Macs like our SE/30s) but that it
had only been tested on a IIci.

I find it -extremely- hard to believe that Second Wave said that the
NB4 would "turn a IIsi into a IIci."  Then again, I also find
Christianity hard to believe, so we all know what my opinion is worth.
<grin>  My bet is that this is indeed a case of miscommunication - on
the part of both parties.

Hmmm... I may just have to do some research on this one...


---
   Jim Gaynor    | "Man-of-Many-Beeping-Sounds-and-Flashing-Lights" - KAJ
OSU/ACS/FMS/OCES | <gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu> or <gaynor.4@osu.edu>
ObDiscl:  Everything stated here and above is _my_ opinion.  Mine mine mine!
ObQuote: "Every devil I meet becomes a friend of mine." - Indigo Girls
From: Kaz.Karl@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Kaz Karl)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: $$$$$$$$$$$$$         WARNING
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 22:29:25 -0500

>>This is in regard to a company called "SECOND WAVE" in Texas, Austin who
>>claimed that their NB4 Expansion box will allow the IIsi to work with
>>accelerator card such as the Radius Rocket.
>>
>>I felt into their trap and got the expansion box.  It turns out
>>that they were lying.  I got Radius Canada and two techicians
>>confirmed that the Radius Rocket is not going to work with the
>>expansion box.   
>>
>>I called that company (long distance) and tried to get a refund but 
>>they said things like "We don't appreciated you!", "you have to pay
>>for your own decision", "We are not going to give you any refund",etc.

I Hereby Promise:
     Not to buy any products from Second Wave...or any companies I find to be
associated with that company...and to recomend to all my consulting clients and
clients for whome I am Purchaser...and to advise my suppliers of my decisions
and my feelings about their carrying this company, if they do or are thinking
about it...until such a time as this ordeal is not only resolved in favor of the
complaintant, but compensation is made for his time, LD bill, and his
trouble...

   I am as serious as a smoking disk on an unbacked-up computer...

And I hope you fax them a printout of this, and of other replies like this...
From: Patrick.D.Warn@dartmouth.edu (Patrick D. Warn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Replacement TrackBall for PowerBook 100
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:31:30 GMT
 <1992Sep1.113540.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Sep1.113540.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>
mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:

> When I first got my PB100 I wanted a heavier ball too thinking it would
> make the "roll" smoother.  Then I noticed that the PB100 is distinctively
> different than it's bigger siblings in that the roller ball does NOT
> rest on rollers like the others, but rather on solid posts.  Hence
> the slight skipping around.  
> 
> Poor design if you ask me, and I'm not sure a heavier ball will help.
> 

I picked this hint up at the BCS booth at MacWorld:

On the 100, if you remove the track ball, you will see two blue
rollers. Push the vertical one all the way down on the shaft and the
horizantial one all the way to the right. If you put the ball back in
you will notice that you can no longer move the cursor. That's all
right. Now you want to start moving the rollers, one at a time, back
towards the middle of each shaft. Do it in small incraments  and stop
as soon as it starts moving the cursor.  After doing this you will find
that the ball rolls much smoother.
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 16:31:48 EDT
From: <3IU4TOB@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Sys. 7.Classic II.Bad behavior

A colleague has just unpacked a Classic II, 2M, 40HD. The system software was
not installed (my more recent experience has been that the computers have come
with the system installed). She did the installation (I was not there to watch)
 which included installation of Word 4.0 and a version of M.S. Works. During
this process or shortly after, folders and apps began flipping out of sight
and then back in (sometimes). Upon hearing about this I loaned her a copy of
the System 7 Tuneup and advised her to rebuild from scratch. She has done this,
 has run the Tuneup, etc. with better success. However, Word and Works did not
work. The Word folder shows on the desktop, but cannot be opened (a dialog
reports that the folder cannot be found.) She called a local dealer who
advised that she need to upgrade her copies of Word and Works. She has
ordered these. She is now trying to delete the Word folder with no success.
Its  get-info box cannot be viewed either. We tryed starting up from
the Tools disk in the hope that we could get at the folder that way. No
success. The is also a trash folder which cannot be deleted.
Can anyone help or point us to a FAQ file which might help?
From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:28:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: transfer.6073
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <BtwtA4.Dw5@news.udel.edu>, johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:
> Actually, Windows NT is supposed to be the death of Unix.
> (See the cover of September's BYTE magazine "Is Unix Dead?".)

Yeah, well forgive my skepticism, but this sounds a *lot* like the stupid
articles in Byte (among others) 2-3 years ago.  Only then the theme was:
"Can Unix survive OS/2?"

> This would have to be the issue in which they finally got
> around to reviewing A/UX ... ;-)
> 
> -- 
> -- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
> -- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949

-- 

Dan S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,osu.mac
From: mihalick@cis.ohio-state.edu (jason r mihalick)
Subject: Question about QuickSilver IIsi...
Originator: mihalick@scarecrow.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:44:24 GMT



	These questions are directed at anyone who has installed the 
	QuickSilver IIsi accelerator in their Mac IISi.  

	What kind of performance increases did you notice in your machine
	after installing the accelerator?  Is there a noticeable increase
	in scrolling speed and/or screen refresh over the stock IIsi?  How
	many times faster would you say the Mac is in these categories?

	What does the board offer in terms of cache?

	How much did you pay for it, where did you get it, and do you think
	it was worth the money you spent?


	Thanks.


					-Jason R. Mihalick
				   mihalick@cis.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bbesler@ouchem.chem.oakland.edu (Brent H. Besler)
Subject: Is it possible to use System 6.08 on a Classic II
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:55:19 GMT

Is it possible to run a Classic II on System 6.08?  Alot of old but
usefeul software won't run under System 7, plus it is annoyingly slow
compared to 6.08.  I have tried taking 7 off of the HD and just about
every possible variation to get 6.08 running on it, but it always comes
back with a message at bootup saying it needs a newer system.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: krona@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Kjell Krona)
Subject: Re: European Prices, Why So Much?
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:09:24 GMT

I do not believe that the cost of localization is important. Translating
the programs menus, dialogs, and help ballons can be done very quickly;
the manuals will take a little longer, especially if you are concerned
about the quality of language, but translation is not very well paid and
you have to work very quickly if you want to pay your rent and eat as well.

The simple fact about price is that it is not very closely related to costs.
Any manufacturer will simply charge what the market will bear, and as long
as that will give a useful margin of profit above the production cost, the
item will continue to be sold. The greater the margin, the better. And in
the past, it has been possible to charge more in Europe than in US for
many kinds of goods (for example, a Swedish-built SAAB or Volvo car will
be lower priced in US than in Sweden, although the transport cost surely 
will add to the production cost, not lower it). 

However, it does seems that the price differential is narrowing, and I
belive that this at least in part has to do with the growing awareness
of the differential, and the ease which both hardware and software can
be moved over the Atlantic. For example, a friend of mine bought a 
Quadra 700 in New York last January at close to half the Swedish price. 
For each person who actually does these imports, several more will be
alerted to the fact and begin to grumble, and this can not be ignored
indefinitely, or everyone would catch a flight to New York and then just
by the Swedish keybord and system software. And so the price will come
down, although perhaps npt as quickly as we would like it to....

 - kjell        krona@nada.kth.se       Dept of Computer Science
                Royal lnstitute of Technology   Stockholm, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: miedreic@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Miedreich)
Subject: Re: Ejecting syquest while sharing is on *HELP*
Originator: miedreic@sunpaul3.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:42:16 GMT


In article <BtxK20.E3E@DMI.USherb.CA>, frechett@DMI.USherb.CA (Bruno Frechette) writes:
|> Hi! I know that this problem has been adressed before, but I can'y remember
|> what the solution was. How do you eject a syquest cartridge (or any other
|> removable media) when file sharing is turned on in system 7?
|> 
|> I know you can do it by turning off file sharing but there has to be another
|> way.
|> 
|> Also, when a syquest drive is attached to a Quadra with a cartridge in it,
|> you simply can't boot the Mac. You have to eject the cartridge first, and then
|> boot the Mac, and then put the cartridge in the drive....
|> 
|> Please send any help to me and I will summarize.
|> 
|> Thanx to all!
|> -- 
|> | Bruno Frechette        | "You know why dogs rub their ass on the grass?" |
|> | frechett@dmi.usherb.ca |   "Because it FEELS great!"  - The Fisher King  |

It seems one would have to use the rigth driver. I can boot our Quadra
and our MAC IIx, both with Sysquest drives from different manufacturers,
whether there is a cartridge in them or not. I can not boot them with
one of the 44MB cartridges. The drive on the Quadra also lets me eject
the cartridge, even when I can not unmount, which leads to two error
messages along the lines of "Read/write error..." & "Can't do that because
Filesharing is active" (Bad translation from German MacOS).
Then its reset-time because reinserting the cartridge doesn't help, and
when you click one error message away the other appears.

There are no problems if you insert the cartridge after filesharing is
active.
-- 

*************************************************************************
*	If they are not intelligent enough to see it our way,           *
*			they are to stupid to live.                     *
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*    Frank Miedreich                                                    *
*        s-mail: Freischuetzstr 102, W8000 Muenchen 81, (089) 95 51 79  *
*        e-mail: miedreic@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                     *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ALSOBROOK@biomed.med.yale.edu (John Alsobrook)
Subject: Powerbook Battery Charge Monitor
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:17:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Well, I would have posted this to comp.sys.mac.powerbook, but it seems
a lot of folks think that questions like mine might be useful to everyone
who uses a Mac, so I hope they enjoy reading this!

When my Powerbook 100 has the AC adapter plugged in, the battery icon
does not have a jaggy lightning bolt through it; from reading the manuals,
the lightning bolt is supposed to indicate that power is from an external
source, and not draining the battery. Can anyone shed light on this?

Thanks loads, and to all you folks who don't want to see a powerbook newsgroup,
may I suggest that you buy a powerbook, use it for awhile, and then re-evaluate
your stance.

****************************************************************************
*                                       | "Giving money and power to the   *
* John Alsobrook                        |    government is like giving     *
* Child Study Center                    |     whiskey and car keys to      *
* Yale University School of Medicine    |  teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke  *
*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*
*                       blame me, not my parents!                          * 
*               internet:alsobrook@biomed.med.yale.edu                     *
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...and, of course, nothing I ever say is officially sanctioned by Yale...


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sears@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bart Sears)
Subject: Re: JPG to GIF or PICT converter
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:28:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories


If you are interested in JPEG to GIF converters (or viewing JPEG
files) on the mac, you should check out the thread titled:
"JPEG decompressor? (Summary)" in comp.sys.mac.apps.

In response to your suggestion to use ppmquant for your color
quantization, at the prompting of the Independent JPEG Group, I did
some fairly detailed comparisons of ppmquant vs. the built in color
quantization code in djpeg (JPEG Group release 3).  I came to the
conclusion that the color quantization code in djpeg does a better job
than ppmquant and does it substantially faster.  Try using both and
see what you think.  Be careful that dithering is not confusing the
matter (ie make sure you compare the four cases, ppmquant vs. djpeg
both with and without dithering for both).

To give you an idea of the time differences, I did some comparisons
between djpeg and ppmquant.  To decompress a jpeg file (to ppm format)
djpeg took 3.1 seconds.  Decompression and quantization to 256 colors
took 3.4 seconds (extra 0.3 seconds) and decompression, quantization,
and dither took 4.7 seconds (extra 1.6 seconds).

Running ppmquant to 256 colors on the decompressed ppm file from above
took 15.6 seconds.  Adding dithering took 22.3 seconds.  Given that
ppm files take very little effort to read/write (no compression), the
0.3 seconds for djpeg is roughly comparable with 15.6 seconds for
ppmquant and 1.6 seconds is roughly comparable with 22.3 seconds.
ppmquant would need to be _much_ faster before it would approach the
speed of djpeg.

							Bart

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pjl@sparc1.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas)
Subject: Re: Postscript & Sys 7.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:56:06 GMT

In <BtoFsJ.o0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> rouse@sage.cc.purdue.edu (John Rouse) writes:


>  Under 6.0.x one could hold down the f key when sending something to the
>Laserwriter and get a nice PostScript file.  Under Sys. 7 the f key trick
>doesn't work so I selected the PostScript file option and ended up with a
>file many time the size of the file that is created under Sys 6.  What is
>happening and how can I get the same type of file that was produced w/
>sys 6 and the f key?

*****>	It's probably because of TrueType fonts.  There are two solutions:

	1) remove all the TT fonts that your document uses, at least
	temporarily, then print.

	2) get PSTrimmer, a utility that lets *you* decide what fonts
	get downloaded.  You can get it from various mac ftp sites.
-- 
	- Paul J. Lucas				University of Illinois	
	  AT&T Bell Laboratories		at Urbana-Champaign
	  Naperville, IL			pjl@cs.uiuc.edu