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From: brad@seas.gwu.edu (Bradford J. Crane)
Subject: Re: Pirates of Realmspace
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:30:35 GMT

	Well, I just went to the local store and bought this game. I got home,
loaded it up, the intro started, created a character, entered the copy
protection and.... and.... NOTHING!!!!!!!!! It didn't do a damn thing. It
exited to DOS. So I reconfigured my entire system with a 'bare' startup disk,
same thing. I tried running it from windows, actually, I even tried it in the
Beta of Windows NT, it DID NOT WORK!!! So I went to the store, exchanged it,
it still didn't work? I have NEVER before had problems with any game, and 
would like to know if anyone out there has experienced this kind of problem.
The only thing in the documentation mentioned about compatibility problems
was that it could not run under QEMM in stealth mode. I ran NO MEMORY manager,
the game only requires 640k, and it still didn't work. I did listen to the 
sound files that come with the game, they are in the standard .voc format
for soundblaster and it sounds cool, BUT I CAN'T PLAY IT!!!!! HELP, if anyone
knows anything about this, please E-mail me. I plan to try it out on a 
different computer, but I doubt that it will work.

							Brad
							Gamemaster

				(Why doesn't it work??)
From: pact_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Blade)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Incredible Machine, freeing the cat in demo?
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:16:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Okay, I'm stuck.  I finally found the demo and can't manage to free the cat
in the fifth or sixth stage of the demo.  If anybody has any suggestions on
how to free the poor puddy-tat while exercising all of the mice, please send
e-mail or post.  Thanks in advance, Pete Schott.
-- 
Pete Schott                    pact_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm good enough,
I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: drmcclin@uncc.edu (David R McClintock)
Subject: Re: Official DOOM information
Reply-To: drmcclin@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:12:36 GMT

In article 1981@news.nd.edu, dmatiske@sophocles.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella) writes:
>In article <EeyaYLS00Uh701EsAt@andrew.cmu.edu>, sward+@CMU.EDU (David Reeve Sward) writes:
>|> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.pc.games: 5-Nov-92 Official DOOM
>|> information by Jay Wilbur@iat.holonet.n 
>|> > Multiple Players
>|> >  
>|> > Up to four players can play over a local network, or two players can play
>|> > by modem.  You can see the other player in the environment, and in certain
>|> > situations you can switch to their view.  This feature, added to the 3-D
>|> > realism, makes DOOM a very powerful cooperative game. 
>|> 
>|> What *type* of network?  Just Novell-type networks or also TCP/IP
>|> networks also?  That would be damn cool...
>	Anybody see the release date on this? 3rd quarter 93. Looks like we will be waiting a while.

Yeah I wish they would release a DEMO version of it so we can get a Taste of it. Then
we can lick our chops for the rest of the year.

DAve
From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Help with Secret of the Silver Blades
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:42:17 GMT
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.

I've been through Curse of the Azure Bonds and am now in Secret
of the Silver Blades by SSI. I've been thru the mines, thru most
levels of the dungeon and I am now in some icy looking place where
presumably the dreadlord is nearby. I just found a frost giant
village and I want to know if I should enter it, go thru it, or
continue searching in this icy region. I need help finding the dreadlord.
Please E-Mail me hints or maps or whatever helpful info you can. Thanks
in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: kirwin@us.oracle.com (Kevin Irwin)
Subject: Slowing down a 486
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:59:44 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

   The subject says it all.  I have a 486-50 (which I use for other purposes
aside from games, but sometimes you just have to relax...) and I recently
purchased Wing Commander.  The unfortunate part is that everything is a
bit TOO fast, even with the turbo switch off and setting WC to 0 frames 
skipped.  I know there are things like at-slow,etc. but where can I get
something like it, which will slow my machine down. (Or alternatively,
what is a good drug to distort your sense of time :)
  This probably has been hashed over before, so just send me email
(kirwin@oracle.com), and lets not waste too much bandwidth on the forum.
Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: iam@stiatl.salestech.com (Ian Mercado)
Subject: Re: X Wing: the plot thickens...
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:49:03 GMT

tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>Xwing on a 286?

>	No.  Computer Gaming World ('the complete MSDOS guide to games' or
>or something like that').

Before people start whining...remember that the 286 has many limitations and
is rapidly (if not already) becoming the PC hardware 'minority'.  Eventually
the industry will move totally beyond 286 technology, and I think that time
is a lot closer than many of you would like to believe.

Think of how much you'd snicker if someone posted wanting to run (insert
favorite cool game here) on an XT...or a C64...or a TI/99 for that matter!
(Wow...didn't the TI/99 sell more than a million?  Why did it fail so badly?)

Don't worry...you'll get your 386/486/Pentium someday!

Ian

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harddriveCOM1:COM2:LPT1:onstandardportsandinterrupts |   I am NOT a signature
"But it was too slow, so I re-wired it..."           | virus.  Copy me and die!
From: krakauer@asdg.enet.dec.com (David Krakauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Lemmings and Gateway 2000 problem
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:26:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Nov9.162601.4681
Reply-To: krakauer@asdg.enet.dec.com (David Krakauer)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



I recently purchased Lemmings for my Gateway 2000 386sx-20 and 
discovered an annoying problem: The palette of action items at the 
bottom left of the screen does not appear in VGA or EGA modes.

A quick call to the makers of Lemmings (Psygnosis) revealed that this
is a problem specific to the Gateway 2000 video boards.  They claim there
are no cures to this problem.  

Has anyone else had this problem?  If so, has anyone been able to fix it
(regardless of what Psygnosis says)? 

Thanks,


			---krak
From: vicks@acs.bu.edu (Vickie Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: DARKSEED walkthru
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:21:54 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: vicks@acs.bu.edu


In article <1db4u2INNsc5@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, rainer@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Rainer Schueler) writes:
> In article 4NOV199200450948@rigel.tamu.edu, scf0994@rigel.tamu.edu (FIELDS, SCOTT CRISTOPHER) writes:
>>Can someone please email me the walkthru/cheat for DARKSEED???  
>>		Thanks in advance,
>>			  Scott 
> 
> Me too,
>   Thanks  Rainer

Me too please.......
From: dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:19:18 GMT
Subject: Re: w7-HELP!!!
Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

>(Aaron Janice) 
>I think I remember reading an earlier post about the tree being in
>OrkOgre Castle.  That leads me to my question...WHERE?  There are two gates I
>am unable to open in the Castle.  One is at the NE end of a North_South
>passageway that leads to a ladder goping up (determined by Wizard eye).  The
>other gate is at the end of a passageway gotten to by going north & then taking
>the first left (from the Castle entrance).   Please someone tell me if I've
>made wrong assumptions and more importantly how to open those gates.

If there are any gates left closed, you have not completed Orkogre.
Most of the gates are opened by levers in another part of the castle.
I do not have my maps so I can't tell you but check the rooms and pull every
lever you can find and see what opens up nearby.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP CPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:21059 rec.games.misc:18271
From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,rec.games.misc
Subject: The World Series of Poker?
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:42:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: gibdo.1992Nov09.223241.24470
Organization: University of Washington


  Has anyone seen a game (for the PC I think) called "The World Series
  of Poker?"  I'd like to get the name of the supplier/distributor so
  I can order it.

  I've seen the game advertised on the TV broadcast of the real World
  Series of Poker and saw a positive review of it a computer magazine
  within the past month, but none of the software stores I've called
  have heard of it.  The program is either too new or it has limited
  distribution channels.

  Also, if anyone knows of other programs that teach cardroom-style
  poker strategy, please let me know.
  ==

  Bob (bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu)        Seattle, Washington
From: dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:50:04 GMT
Subject: Re: W7 Help!!!
Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

1. How do I get in the prison to get the Gorn prisoner out, what is the color sequence?

It is in a card you will get in a battle nearby. Read it. The first
3 letters are ETX: <code sequence censored>

2. How do I get the "computer", the strange machine in the Forbidden Zone, to work?

You will need an interface, some IP addresses and server names. You will
find them eventually.

3. How do I get into the old city?

You need a key. You can kill the NPC with it or ask him nicely and he will
give it to you. The clue as to what to ask for is in the Funhouse.

4. How do I get into Arms of Angus, the umpani guy always push out, what's the answer to his question?

Answer what you are looking for, not who sent you.

Munkharama
1. How do I get into the land of dream, I can't answer the question the munk asks.

Brother Moser has the answer if you ask about the land of dream by its proper
name.

2. How do I reach the undergroud domain of the munks, or where is it?

Get the Temple map. It has the clues to do so.

Gorn Castle
2. How do I get into the outer sanctum, I used the polished plate at the blood spot facing the door, but no effect.

Did you Search first so your party (and not just you) knows what to do?

Groves
1. How do I get in the grove without being attacked by the endless army of Man'o grove?

That is the way. The battle eventually ends. BTW until you complete gorn
castle, you can do nothing there.

T'Rang City
1. Where do I get finger rods?

They are keys. Who would have the keys to lock places?

2. When I see the T'Rang ruler, he asked me to goto the T'Rang in NewCity. So I used the anthrax machine and teleported to the T'Rang is house and this guy asks me to kill Rodan Lewarx, the umpani tracker for him, where is this RODAN LEWARX?

It is optional whether you say yes or no. However the umpanis will not
like you if you say yes. Remember who runs the black market.

3. After the I received the mission to search for the Boat map, I used the anthrax machine, but it still teleported to New City, how do I get teleported to Rattkin Ruin?

You got to walk it.

Re. Other questions. Play the game some more. This is a long game.
It will take you about 200 hours to finish it. Most of your
questions will be automatically answered if you keep playing.
Many items or places found early cannot be finished until much
later in the game.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP CPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: ctoth@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher M Toth)
Subject: Wizardry 7 HELP needed
Keywords: wiz7, wizardy, Wiz7
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:53:59 GMT

	I am in the Gorn castle and I have explored all that I can. I can't
get into any of the prison cells, the Throne Room, or the Outer Sanctum. I
tried using the polished metal to get into the sanctum, to no avail. Does
anyone know how to get into these places? Especially the outher sanctum?

Thanks in advance...





-- 
Christopher M. Toth                   "With an Iron fist in a velvet glove
The Ohio State University              We are sheltered under the gun
Columbus State                         In the glory game on the power train
CIS/History Major                      Thy's kingdom's will be done."-Rush
From: "pat traynor" <pat.traynor@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: yet another civilizat
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:12:23 EST
Reply-To: "pat traynor" <pat.traynor@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications


BP>tyler.brown@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (TYLER JAMES BROWN) writes:
BP>>
BP>>       Well, like an idiot. I brought my Civ disks to school with me but
BP>>forgot all my manuals at home.

BP>Uh huh.... anybody buy this?

Not I.  I just wish they'd come up with more creative stories.  I'm sure
that when this guy goes out on a date, he drives down a dark road, turns
the key off and says, "Darn.  We're out of gas..."

--pat--
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From: z_rasmusseam@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: x wing
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:44:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccsvax.1992Nov11.174409.1786
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Just as a note for all you  X Wing lovers out there (myself included) I have
another friend who contacted the comp about when it is due to be released.
He was told Nov 20th!!!!!! *bounce bounce bounce*  Look for it!

  -- Adam
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From: 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN)
Subject: Re: FLASHBACK, Sequel to Out of This World
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:23:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.024959.23841@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> huey@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Huei Lin) writes:
>From: huey@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Huei Lin)
>Subject: FLASHBACK, Sequel to Out of This World
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:49:59 GMT
>Just saw on my friend's amiga yesterday on the sequel to Out of This
>World and it looked great. It was only a cinematic type demo but the
>colours and movement was smoother.
>
>Just wondering if there is any plan or release dates for its release on
>the PC?
>
>Any info would be appreciated.
>
>Huei Lin

  there's a computer magazine (an amiga one methinks) with a heap
of screenshots, including in-games ones.  the graphix looks
brilliant (although these were amiga); sorta looks digitized.
there was a review and stuff with the game; i didn't look at these
(too busy gawking at the pictures), but it'd probably have some
info in it.

halcyon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: hofstoet@vanilla.fmi.uni-passau.de (Hans Ulrich Hofstoetter)
Subject: Re: SpellCaster 301
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:00:29 GMT

In article <4NOV199200012599@cc.utah.edu>, mgb5528@cc.utah.edu (Beck, Michael Gregory) writes:
> 
>     Now I don't want a walkthru.  All I want is a yes or no answer.
> I followed the directions to get to Fort Naughtytail and I end up over the 
> house that causes me to lose magical power in my carpet.  I throw everything 
> off except the money.  Am I doing the right thing, or am I missing something?
> 
You are on the right way. Proceed this way.

> 
> Thanks.
> Michael Beck


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hofstoet@eva.fmi.uni-passau.de
****************************************************************
...if you confront the Black Lodge with imperfect courage,
it will utterly annihilate your soul".
                               Hawk - Deputy of Twin Peaks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: 890661b@ace.acadiau.ca (MATTHEW EARL KEITH BALL)
Subject: Help needed for S301
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:01:27 GMT

If anyone can give me an hint as how to successfully win the bellyflop 
contest in chapter 4, I would be grateful. Also, is there any use for the 
magic mushrooms, and can you win in the gambling house?

Please e-mail any hints or walk-thru's to:
	890661b@ace.acadiau.ca

Thanks in advance.
Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig)
Subject: Re: Strike Commander within weeks? ([Not] Really.)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:34:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.132250.25172@seas.gwu.edu> brad@seas.gwu.edu (Bradford J. Crane) writes:
>	In my local Software Etc. store, they have a board listing all of the
>expected release times for software. On that board, Strike Commander was
>listed for December, 92, but there was no mention. Since they have RARELY 
>gotten in games earlier than the board, I wouldn't expect it until December.
>However, the board in this store is usually correct within TWO weeks. They
>get the information directly from the manufactures. I live in Northern
>Virginia, so it may be coming soon! (Maybe before Christmas - Yeah, right? 
>That's what we thought LAST YEAR!)
>

Yeah. Old gulable me. Guess I should've known better. Maybe me and the
Software Etc. of Bloomington IN oughta get together and discuss a few
things, because they sure seeme confused. Does anyone know if we'll be
seeing at least a (ceritified) demo in the near future? To tell the
truth, even if it had been in, I wonder now if I would've forked out
70 some bucks for it. Keen-o graphics are nice and all, but if it's a
"twelve missions and you're ready for an add-on-disk" deal... I may
stick with Falcon3. Unless they offer something utterly unique, I'd
rather save my holiday funds for X-wing.

Just my two rusty pennys.

-mark

-- 
,----------------------------. "Therefore, make peace with your god, whatever
: Mark Fleig                  \  you conceive him to be. Hairy thunderer, or
: mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu\  cosmic muffin. With all its hope and renewal,
`-------------------------------' the world continues to deteriorate. Give up."
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Solitaire - Best comp. game ?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 06:30:12 GMT

Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner) writes:
>How many people agree with me;
>that Solitaire is the best computer game ever.

Hah!  Minesweeper!


oh yeah...

And if you disagree, you're a.... doodyhead!

(didn't want to leave without stirring up the flames).
-- 
I like blood.  It's a primary color.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: roberts@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Eric Roberts)
Subject: probots
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:09:39 GMT

	Does anyone know where I could get the latest verion of Probots?
The only version I can find on internet is a 1988 one...
From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: DKQ-Stuck in the Lighthouse
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:56:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

barney@ac.dal.ca writes:
>	I'm stuck in the lighthouse on the 11th stage. I have defeated the
>golems and arrived at a locked door.  I can't force it open and the knock
>spell seems ineffective.  Do I need a key or something?  If I do I hope it's
>somewhere close,  I can't seem to get past the pit trap on stage 10.
I'm stuck here too. TO get around without too much problem, go to level 7 and
turn off the teleporters. A dying elf said I needed a key under the porch, but
I've searched every spot in the lighthouse AND Hizden with no luck. Can anyone
else out there help me (us)?

-- 
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If this were a real .sig file, something else would be here.
From: curtisn@SAS (Curtis Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: HELP -- Indy  Last Crusade
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:53:37 GMT
Organization: BYU

HELP!!!!!!!

I have been stuck in the castle for a good part of my young-adult life.  
I have been able to find pops, but I don't know how to get out of the castle 
with him!  Do I need to do battle with 'Bif the wonder guard', or is there 
another way around this?  I have de-activated the alarm system ( should I 
have ? )   


PLease Please PLease PLease PLease Please PRETTY PLease help me!

Thanks!

Curtis Nelson
curtisn@sasb.byu.edu
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From: law40003@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN YEW KEONG)
Subject: Re: Wizadry 7, need help on Funhouse/Waterslide (spoilers)
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:42:29 GMT

Jens-Heiner Rechtien (rechtien@ganymed.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE) wrote:
: 
: Well, the subject says it all. Waterslide is tough, so outright 
: spoilers will be welcome. Some notes on what I have are below.
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: 1. I have found the pictured ball and the the bar&rope. It seems
:    that that the pictured ball is needed for the the target, but somehow
:    I miss the bulleye.
:
You must hit the target with the ball. Keep trying.
 
: 2. How can I slow down the rush through waterslide, so entering of
:    the passway is possible ?
:

 
No slowing down is necessary - you just hit the bullseye first, go
through the ferris wheel, and you'll go to the new area. Set the
switches well - I posted the switch sequence to somebody (can't remember
his name but if you're reading, please post this guy the sequence OK?) -
and you'll land in a new place - just let the water carry you through!
: Thank you very much
: Heiner
: 
: Internet: rechtien@hanymed.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de
: 

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From: dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly)
Subject: Is there a crack for OOTW?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:25:53 GMT

That damn code wheel is driving me up the frigging wall.  Is there a crack
anywhere for Out Of This World?  Also, I saw a list of all the 4-letter codes
a while back...Does anyone have a copy of these, also?

E-mail:  dkelly@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu

Thanx.
From: dhaigh@actrix.gen.nz (David Haigh)
Subject: Re: F15III Playable demo uploaded to wuarchive
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:50:54 GMT

Solution to all those who HATE the F15-III demo.

Don't buy the game!

Or, WAIT and see what happens.

But please, stop bitching about it.

There, I feel better now.

Dave.
Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.