From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: A question on this Armenia stuff...
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:44:18 GMT
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In <9208122353.A0091yV@anadolu.michigan.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com writes:
> 
> <1992Aug11.180617.7080@menudo.uh.edu>
> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
> 
> >> And what you wrote above was a sarcastic reference to that fact, 
> 
> >  Dr. Livinginston!
> 
> Don't take things that aren't yours.

  I might say the same.  In fact I will: "Don't take things that aren't yours."

> >> This was clearly identified as a conjecture. What's your point?
> 
> >  Justice is not conjecture.  What you propose is not justice but something
> >suspiciously akin to blackmail.
> 
> Take any one of those items and extrapolate it into sophisticated
> adult terms and apply it to your life or your work or your government
> or your world and it holds true and clear and firm.

  Threats are usually illegal and immoral--a freely entered contract is not.
No one has threatened to kill me for not working.  You logic is brittle and
shivers aprt easily under pressure.

> >> The old and tired argument you trot out is just that, old and tired.
> 
> >  No more old and tired than documents from 1919, eh?
> 
> I venture to guess that you take a nap every afternoon.

  Yes, but don't tell my manager.  You have failed to answer the question.

> >> Don't sell yourself short. Just visit 'Eastern Anatolia' and the Turkish
> >> Genocide Museums.
> 
> >You wish to give these to the museum curators?  Son, you've gone off the
> >deep end.
> 
> Well, the examined life is no picnic.

  You continue to dodge.  Who gets the land and the $$ reparations?  The 
victims are still dead.

> >> No crime should go unpunished. Armenian government got away with the 
> >> genocide of 2.5 million Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying 
> >> the fruits of that genocide.
> 
> >  But there is no one left to punish, my dear Hasan.  Those leaders are all 
> >dead, just like thier victims.  Who are we to punish?  Corpses?  Do we hold
> >Helmut Kohl liable for the acts of the Nazis?  Gorbachev for Stalin?  Your
> >desire for "punishment" is understandable but wholly impractical.
> 
> Not at all. Think what a better world it would be if we all - the 
> whole world - had cookies and milk about three o'clock every afternoon 
> and then lay down with our blankies for a nap. Wake up and smell the 
> Turkish coffee.

  This so-called answer does not answer anything.  Cute rejoinders do not a 
debate make.  Is not your desire impractical, and if not, how so?

> >> I wonder why?
> 
> >  Well, it was hardly germane.  I am not arguing over whether or not these
> >things did happen, but what you would propose to do about it, and how that
> >merely serves to inflame hatreds best left alone.
> 
> Now think what a better world it would be if all governments had
> as a basic policy to always put things back where they found them
> and to clean up their own mess. And no crime should go unpunished.

  If it was the same government that existed in 1919, perhaps.  If there were
any left alive from that government, perhaps.  You've yet to explain how you
intend to punish dead men.

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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