HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Sendmail under 3.0 whats the story?
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:00:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.124223.9604@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
>
>What is the story with configuring uucp under sendmail in NS3.0, I know
>that the sendmail-565c binaries I had do NOT work period.

3.0 has sendmail 5.67c.  Use it.  It works about as well as sendmail
can work I would think...


andrew
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                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT Network versus NFS?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:35:53 GMT

woo@ornl.gov(John W. Wooten) writes:

>I'm getting ready to install NeXT's at several schools in our area.  At  
>the central location, I will have a larger disk drive and intend to put  
>the full development software, all references, manuals, etc.  The other  
>NeXTs have IP access via T1 lines to this NeXT.

>What are the pros and cons of making the central NeXT the Configuration  
>Manager with the others seeing it's disks, versus just exporting the  
>large external disk and having the others mount it?

I think you're getting confused about what being a 'NeXT Network'
is.  It doesn't have anything to do with file sharing - it means
that information in the netinfo database (where to get mounts,
password entries, printer information, et al) is passed down to
machines that connect to the configuration server.
To have the client machines have the extended release, you need to
export the extended release from the server with NFS, which is just
a protocol to mount disks from a remote machine onto a client.

>What happens if the Central configuration manager is down?  Can the  
>others even run?  I know they can't see the data structure, but I don't  
>want to build in a single point of failure.
If you have all of the clients mounting needed files (such as
/NextLibrary/ and all of the often-used files under it) from the
server, then yes - if the server crashes, all of the clients which
are attempting to use files from that disk will hang with a spinning
wheel.
As far as your netinfo and configuration server going down - no big
deal, except that no one can log in if the password info is stored
in the domain that was only kept on that config server.  The
machines shouldn't hang, though.  But, this is why you need clones -
if the master does go down, they will serve those requests.


>Will there have to be a lot of reconfiguration if NFS is used?  I'm  
>looking for simple things I can do that minimize configuration and  
>operation support requirements.

I just realized you might be thinking about NIS instead of Netinfo.
I suggest you go with netinfo, it's easier and the tools are there
to help you manage it.
Also, remember that if you are putting these machines in different
subnets (class C addresses), you will need one configuration server
for each subnet most likely.  The broadcast packets that the NeXTs
issue when they first turn on and try to bind to a server will not
usually go across routers unless you specifically tell the routers
to pass those packets. (and only the newest routers can do this)
-- 
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
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From: sahayman@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Steve Hayman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.0: what gives with cron
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:20:42 GMT
Organization: NeXT Canada

One last quick point on this thread about what cron does with $PATH - after
checking a bit more, it appears that cron doesn't set the path itself, it
merely inherits whatever path is in effect when it's launched.  Note that
/etc/rc does this:

    PATH=/etc:/usr/etc:/bin:/usr/bin; export PATH

so anything launched from rc inherits this path.

It seems to me that you could add /usr/ucb to this list without
hurting anything (except for the idea of not tinkering with system files
if you can avoid it.)


Steve
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NeXT mail: Steve_Hayman@NeXT.com                                 (416) 607-4059
From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Desjet and 3,0
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:52:08 GMT
Reply-To: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org
Organization: at home

In article <1992Sep28.230653.12791@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>  
robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) writes:
> 
> Has anyone upgraded to 3.0 and used one of the Deskjet drivers on the  
archives? I'd
> like to know if there is any difference in installation to save myself
> trouble when I upgrade. At present I use the driver from Reiner Mueller.

Well, NeXTStep 3.0 has finally reached germany and this week I will receive my  
copy. The first thing I will do is the adaption (if it needs one) of the djf.

As soon as I can get it run, I will upload it to the archives ... probably next  
week or so.

Cheers
	Reimer
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: SLIP worked in 3.0, but now it does not anymore
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:03:54 GMT


HISTORY:

When I installed 3.0 (a clean install), I loaded the 920506 SLIP from its  
package and restored my files in /usr/dialupip/config from backup.  This worked  
fine and I was able to use SLIP to ftp to the NeXT archives and get the new  
920802 SLIP.  The latter also installed a correctly functioning set of  
binaries.

I had been successfully using /etc/resolv.conf to point to my SLIP service  
provider as a nameserver.

THE PROBLEM:

Now I cannot get any names resolved to their corresponding IP address.  ftp  
always reports <name>: unknown host, even if resolv.conf is set up correctly.   
(e.g. :
ftp> open cs.orst.edu
cs.orst.edu: unknown host

Since "nameserver.com" (a fictitious nameserver) is in my NetInfo database, I  
can ftp nameserver or ftp nameserver.com, but even with the SLIP interface up  
and connected to nameserver.com, I still get "unknown host" for cs.orst.edu,  
sonata.cc.purdue.edu, etc., when I try to open a connection to them with ftp.   
My /etc/resolv.conf has "nameserver nameserver.com" in it, so I don't know why  
it doesn't just get the IP address for cs.orst.edu from there.

I may have broken something when I tried to get "named" working with my machine  
as a slave nameserver to my provider's nameserver (hoping to automatically  
cache the IP address of the machines I most used and prevent a SLIP connection  
everytime I send or receive UUCP mail).  I had a questionable /etc/named.boot  
file and was able to get a cache dump from named, but it never worked  
correctly, so I commented out the following line in my rc.local:
#/usr/etc/named >/dev/console 2>&1

I don't see how this could still have effect since I no longer see (named) in  
the output from pid.  Perhaps someone with more knowledge of named can tell me  
what kind of effects it may have had.

I also added a button to my NeXTstep modem manager app which renamed  
resolv.conf to resolv.conf~ and back without requiring a root-privileged  
terminal session (but I doubt that I could have broken anything in  
/etc/resolv.conf with the rename() function!?!).

THE QUESTION:

Can anyone offer help or clues as to how I can restore working nameserver  
functionality through /etc/resolv.conf ?

I have an OD backup of my entire Release 3.0 Installation which was made before  
I changed anything, and all of the files on the following paths are identical  
(i.e. I don't think any of these files were corrupted by the multiple panics  
that printing under 3.0 has caused):

/ /usr/etc /usr/ucb /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin

Ideas?
Thanks,
-- 
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BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Signal Processing Software and Consulting
NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Subject: Desjet and 3,0
Organization: Johns Hopkins University - Homewood Academic Computing
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:06:53 GMT


Has anyone upgraded to 3.0 and used one of the Deskjet drivers on the archives? I'd
like to know if there is any difference in installation to save myself
trouble when I upgrade. At present I use the driver from Reiner Mueller.

R. de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ.
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From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha  Rao)
Subject: Setting up my HP 710 to print on NeXT, How?
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:23:04 GMT


What do I need to do to make my HP 710 print across the room (over the  
ethernet) to a NeXT Cube with a NeXT Laser Printer?  The NeXT is part of a  
Netinfor set up. I have done the following:

	(1) Run SAM on the HP to make proper print spool queue for the remote  
Next. Also enabled the queue, made it the default printer.

	(2) On the Next, I added the name of the HP in the /etc/hosts.lpd file  
and restarted the machine.

Now, the HP sends the file to Next but nothing happens. The console on the NeXT  
says that attempt is being made to print to "Local_printer" (small p) when the  
HP clearly knows the remote printer to be "Local_Printer (cap P). So, the  
printing on the Next fails, and the so something happens by which the print  
job, which did not find the proper printer on the Next,  is sent to a  
non-existing Fax Modem on the Next. 

	Bottom line, no output. BTW, the Next is running 3.0. In 2.1, I had  
done something similar (don;t remember exactly) and it was working like a  
charm.


--
Jagannatha Rao				E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering    Tel   :(713) 743-4535
University of Houston                   Fax   :(713) 743-4503
From: gil@asterix.lbl.gov (Gil Rivlis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem: Executable not found at random times (3.0)
Date: 3 Oct 1992 00:32:57 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: gil@asterix.lbl.gov (Gil Rivlis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: asterix.lbl.gov


I have the following strange problem. Occasionally, in a shell 
(zsh, to be precise), I get

    asterix> rlogin obelix
    zsh: bad executable (or shared library) : rlogin

Trying rlogin a second time works!!!
It happen for various commands (like lpr, rlogin, cc, etc.)

My configuration: NeXTstation Turbo running 3.0. Shell is zsh 2.2

Any ideas?

Gil
--
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gil@asterix.lbl.gov (NeXT Mail welcome)
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Is there a list of facilities and levels for syslog?
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:01:13 GMT


Is there a list anywhere of what facilities can be logged via the syslog  
daemon?  There are possible 24 facilities (max defined in syslog.h) of which  
15 are claimed by the system but only 7 make any sense.  Does anyone know what  
are the other 8 system facilities?  How do you use the 8 local facilities?

#define LOG_KERN        (0<<3)  /* kernel messages */
#define LOG_USER        (1<<3)  /* random user-level messages */
#define LOG_MAIL        (2<<3)  /* mail system */
#define LOG_DAEMON      (3<<3)  /* system daemons */
#define LOG_AUTH        (4<<3)  /* security/authorization messages */
#define LOG_SYSLOG      (5<<3)  /* messages generated internally by syslogd */
#define LOG_LPR         (6<<3)  /* line printer subsystem */
        /* other codes through 15 reserved for system use */
#define LOG_LOCAL0      (16<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL1      (17<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL2      (18<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL3      (19<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL4      (20<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL5      (21<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL6      (22<<3) /* reserved for local use */
#define LOG_LOCAL7      (23<<3) /* reserved for local use */

#define LOG_NFACILITIES 24      /* maximum number of facilities */


Is there and explaination of what different levels there are?  For example, I  
know that debug has a lower priority than info, but what are all the levels  
possible??  Are the only levels as follows:

#define LOG_EMERG       0       /* system is unusable */
#define LOG_ALERT       1       /* action must be taken immediately */
#define LOG_CRIT        2       /* critical conditions */
#define LOG_ERR         3       /* error conditions */
#define LOG_WARNING     4       /* warning conditions */
#define LOG_NOTICE      5       /* normal but signification condition */
#define LOG_INFO        6       /* informational */
#define LOG_DEBUG       7       /* debug-level messages */

So if we want to log _everything_ about a specific facility, then we should do  
a _facility_.debug  to get all the messages??

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From: andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly)
Subject: Postscript Printer Description
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:59:44 GMT


Ever since I upgraded to NS 3.0 - both enscript and the print manager
have been complaining that the postscript printer description
files are missing for our two remote printers.

The documentation for enscript mentions it but there seems to be
no description of what a PPD actually is, or where it ought
to be. Printing seems to be dying in mid stream so I imagine
the information in these files is important.

Does anyone know anything about this ???

Andy Dwelly (andy@bcu.ubc.ca)
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From: bnocker@puma.cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard Nocker)
Subject: What the hell is "No more room in kernel map"???
Keywords: next kernel map crash
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:58:13 GMT


My NeXTdimension Turbo and another NeXTdimension Turbo are suffering from  
a strange behaviour which causes system panic more than twice a day!!
The /usr/adm/messages and console simply reports "mach panic ... No more  
room in kernel map" and the system dies. Sometimes without syncing which  
causes some other problems!

For further information: There are no special programs running, but the  
systems are running the whole day and are fileservers. We do not log out  
more than once a day (or because of crash). The systems are sometimes  
heavily loaded.

Any comments or suggestions????

- Bernhard

--
Bernhard Nocker                          Beware root :-)
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5	5020 Salzburg    Austria, Europe
+43-662-8044/6750		  bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
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From: oliverm@nevada.edu (Moises Oliveira )
Subject: Re: Fast find won't in 3.0
Summary:  REGEXP!
Organization: Organization? Ha, don't make me laugh
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:03:55 GMT

In article <HARDY.92Oct1223541@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
>In preparation for the update to 3.0 (and the news that find stopped
>working),

Find has always used regexp (that's regular expression) to search for files
when using both the normal method and fast find.

In the past, the fast find has always accepted an impled star (* == match
anything) on both ends of the expression.  So if you typed

find myfile

Find would translate that to

find *myfile*

With the current version of find you must place your own stars on the
expression.  Since you (whoever is reading this) are probably using csh, you
will probably need to escape the stars.  So you would type.

find \*myfile\*

or

find "*myfile*"

This new method allows you to do things like 
find ~/\*.m | more
which will show you all .m files inside your home folder (instead of all 
.m files, everywhere on the hard drive)


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From: cary@jove.colorado.edu (John R. Cary)
Subject: Re: AppleTalk and 3.0. It does not work.
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:29:40 GMT

Neither have I yet succeeded in sharing files between the Mac's and the 
NeXT, but I have gotten the NeXT to print to the Mac Printer.  My
setup:

Etherprint Plus box, off which I hang a Mac+, a LaserWriter IINT,
and a PowerBook on the localtalk side.  The Thinnet side of the
Etherprint Plus box goes to two MacII's (with Farallon ethernet cards),
a NeXT with its own printer, and an RS6000.

I am waiting on a repeater box for my connection to the outside world,
but at the moment I have an isolated net.

For the Mac II's and the NeXT I have specified ethertalk phase-1.
I further started up the network on the NeXT with the
"Simple Network Starter."  I configured appletalk for ethertalk
phase 1 as discussed in the
docs, first the system, then the user part.  Finally, I turned on
appletalk in Preferences.

The Mac's all have sharing turned on, and they all successfully share files with
each other, regardles of whether they are on the localtalk or the ethertalk
side of the EtherPrint box.  All Mac's can print to the LaserWriter.

The NeXT prints to the LaserWriter as well as (natch) its own printer.  However,
I cannot share the Mac II files to the NeXT.  This I would like to do.

Of course, the Mac's cannot share the NeXT's files nor print to its
printer, but this I expected as the NeXT is only an Appletalk client.

Can anyone give me instructions on how to mount my Mac file systems on
the NeXT in this configuration?


-- 
--------------------------
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Department of Astrophysical, Planetary and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309-0391
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: How to get packages to leave receipts in /LocalLibrary/Receipts
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:20:10 GMT

On Sept 21st, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
> The subject pretty much says it all.  Is there a way so that third party  
> receipts for packages are installed in /LocalLibrary/Receipts instead of  
> /NextLibrary/Receipts all the time?
> 
> It's just a small organizational thing I want to do so when I upgrade
> next I won't have to mess with having things installed here and there
> but not having the package anymore to cleanly remove all the pieces.

Hmm.  You could probably copy the receipts into the LocalLibrary directory.   
That should work OK, except that attempts to delete a package won't delete  
the copy of the receipt which is in /LocalLibrary.

In a similar vien, it seems to me that people should be able to get their  
receipts in ~/Library/Receipts as well.  If I'm installing something in  
~/Apps on a machine, then the receipt is specific to me.  I'd think this  
would be important on machines which are regularly used by multiple users.

Is there any way to do this?  (Say, for someone who wants to install a  
package, but has no access to /NextLibrary or /LocalLibrary)

--
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From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Subject: Re: TeX -> Mathematica Notebooks in NeXTTeX 3.0
Reply-To: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: comp.sys.next.programmer, uiuc.sys.next,kenf@darkstar.cso.uiuc.edu
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:49:31 GMT

I just wanted to try this great Edit-service on a simple equation, but I 
got the error message:
Service: TeX EQ ->.EPS could not be provided:
Output file didn't get created somehow.
Does anyone know what is wrong?

Thanks,

--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
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(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: rlogin ---> no controlling tty ? (bug ?)
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:01:20 GMT
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <BvEFu2.8xI@cs.vu.nl> mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) writes:
>For some reason when you do a rlogin, the rlogind on the other side does
>not set your controlling tty.

>This happens in both NS 2.x and NS 3.0.
>
>This is a bug isn't it ?

Yes, it's a bug.  And it's a bug that's been known for a long time.
The fix for 2.x is available by anonymous ftp from sutro.sfsu.edu
[130.212.15.230] as pub/2.0-fixed-rlogind.tar.Z

I haven't investigated the behavior under 3.0, but I'm not the
least bit surprised to hear of yet-another-known-but-unfixed-bug
in the networking software.  3.0 seems to have quite a lot of
them, and NeXT neither seems interested in rectifying the
situation nor releasing the relevant sources to allow others to
do so.  Fortunately, I'm in no hurry to "upgrade," and in our
heterogeneous/multivendor environment, I can easily find a non-
NeXT machine where the bundled software works the way it's
supposed to (and the /usr/include files haven't been bulldozed,
in case I really do need to recompile something from the
publicly-available sources).

"Really looking forward to 3.1"  (yeah, right)

					-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Questions about printmanager and faxes
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:43:25 GMT


   I have been playing around with the new PrintManager.app with 3.0 and what  
interests me is the the Fax manager.  I like the ability to control who can  
_receive_ faxes but I am also wondering about if there is any ability to limit  
who can _send_ faxes.
   We have a fax modem that is exported out to the entire cluster (50+ NeXTs)  
but we would like to prevent individual users from using the Fax modem.  I  
know that there is a _writers property in NetInfo that allows the limiting of  
who can write/print to a printer.  Is this same property usable for the Fax  
Modem??

--
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The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration   *  DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC 
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