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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: What is the going price for used Lynx games?
Date: 14 Nov 92 22:52:11 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.

New games seem to run 19.95 to 35 or so... used seem to run only
about $5, 10 less at the most... I have no money, so I'd like to
get some games for $10 to $12...

I'll trade my Atari 2600 with goodies and 50 games or so, for two or
three good Lynx games.  Also have an intellivision to trade...

Thom
From: hilton@leechs.lzo.dec.com (Greg Hilton)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Batman Returns - how do I kil the duck?
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:05:10 GMT
Reply-To: hilton@bahtat.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Company


On Batman Returns at the end of the first level,
you come across the penguin in a huge yellow duck.

How do I kill him? Where exactly am I aiming for?

Cheers

Greg
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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: LYNX: Base unit $79.99 at EB!
From: cjfst4@cis.pitt.edu (Chad Freeman)
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:58:43 GMT
Reply-To: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: alt.games.lynx
Organization: University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

When I was in Electronics Boutique yesterday, I noticed that the base unit is
down to $79.99!  That's right, you can now buy a Lynx (sans game) for the same
price as a Game Boy!  There have also been price reductions on many games; the
lowest price I saw was Electocop for $12.95(!).  Sales have been quite brisk
(in our area) for the past few weeks.

--
Chad Freeman 					mail: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
			The end.
From: matsis@bagels.enet.dec.com (Pam Matsis)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Release date?
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:28:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Hi

Does anyone know what the release date is for Missle Command/Asteroids?
I thought it was going to released by Christmas but Babbages says it's not
on their list of new releases comming in between now and January.

Also, can someone post a detailed review of Shadow of the Beast?

Thanks.

Pam
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Release Dates?
From: djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:49:51 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Does anyone know if/when these cards are supposed to be released?

	- Super Off Road
	- Lemmings
	- Eye of the Beholder
	- Dracula (especially interested in this title)
	- Daemonsgate
	- Guardians:  Storm Over Doria

Any and all info will be greatly appreciated.  Thanx...

Dave

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               Dave Willkomm   <djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Apple-IIGS-----------------------------------------------------------Atari-Lynx
                Ministry:  The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: sgsimon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Simon)
Subject: Slime World tricks?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:28:24 GMT

I've recently purchased a copy of Slime World (Todd's Adventures In).
I seem to remember there being some information here about hidden
feature(s) in this game, but I didn't save anything about them.
Could anyone out there who knows either post it again, or mail me
the info? 

Thanks,  -Steve Simon
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--  CS Masters student,  Stanford University		--
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From: hc@doc.ic.ac.uk (Henry Chung)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Shadow of the beast help
Date: 18 Nov 1992 10:33:39 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak26.doc.ic.ac.uk

In response to Dave Willkomm   <djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> :

For the batch of birds on the way to the tree :
There is no way of killing them, apart from using the gun. What I suggest
is, when they fly at you simply run the other way and then duck. They will
then perch on the trees. At this point run forward and get ready for the
next wave. Using this technique, I have managed to get to the tree
without losing any energy whatsoever.

As for the bees before the castle, I don't have a clue!! Hope this helps!!

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 02:16:45 CST
From: <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: Re: [Gameboy, GameGear, Lynx]: Do you Nicads on your handheld?
 <92324.092906U59985@uicvm.uic.edu> <Ef3FtFS00VQoQPSXZ6@andrew.cmu.edu>

Okay. But couldn't they just put of the chemicals in or something like that unt
il the voltages are up to 1.5? I mean they can make 9V Nicads, I'm sure they ca
n make a 1.5V nicad.

Thomas
From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: LYNX: Base unit $79.99 at EB!
Date: 21 Nov 92 20:57:58 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

cjfst4@cis.pitt.edu (Chad Freeman) writes:
>When I was in Electronics Boutique yesterday, I noticed that the base unit is
>down to $79.99!  That's right, you can now buy a Lynx (sans game) for the same
>price as a Game Boy!

It's interesting to note that I got my Lynx for $89.88 CDN, including the
Bat Man Returns cartridge--this is roughly less than $70 US.  But the games
are holding steady at about $50 CDN.
From: lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Is there a shortcut in Gates of Zendocan (sp)
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:17:51 GMT

I enjoy "Gates..." but I was wondering if there was a
shortcut to the end.  or maybe a clue on which portals to
choose...
thanks
patrick

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John Patrick Lestrade        
cnesta::lestrade                       Let's try again in '96!
lestrade@ra.msstate.edu
From: dmeiklej@gssec.bt.co.uk (David Meiklejohn)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Beaten Batman Returns?
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:59:19 GMT
Organization: BT, Software Engineering Glasgow


 I've been to the end of level four. I couldn't destroy the penguin, though I hit
 him quite a few times. Anyone know how to kill him?
 
 Anyway, here's a few hints on how I tackle the various levels:
 
 SPOILER ALERT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 General: don't stop for much. Most enemies can be run past without much loss to
 your energy.
 
 Level 1
 When the shop explodes, crouch down behind the mail box.
 To kill the duck, crouch on the platform near it and keep shooting batarangs
 Lots of hidden bonuses here; in the present and behind lampposts
 
 Level 2
 Run past all police except the ones firing grape shot|> To kill catwoman keep jumping along and turning back to shoot|> 

 Level 3
 Just kill the big penguins - these guys are meanies
 Leave the last health power up until you really need it
 Use the test tubes to kill lots of penguins at once at the end of level
 This end of level is really difficult but eventually the penguins stop being
 generated
 
 Level 4
 Moving platforms et al. Just go for it, trying not to fall between the platforms.
 Don't know how to kill the penguin (:-(
 
 
 David.

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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:34:47 -0500 
From: Kenichiro Tanaka <kt12+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Batman Returns is kind of dorky

On 20-Nov-92 in Batman Returns is kind of d..
user Richard John Rauser@fras writes:
>   I love my new Lynx, but I don't really care for Batman Returns (which
>came with my unit).
>[stuff]

RJR got a Lynx?!?!  Yeah right--you've used this joke already.  It
wasn't funny last year and it isn't funny now.

:)


Ken
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: meyer@dbsun.uucp (Don Meyer)
Subject: Super Mario equiv.?
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:31:37 GMT

Hi.  One of my kids has this annoying fascination with, sigh, _Mario_
games on the Nintendo and Super Nintendo. :-/ 
What I'm trying to find is the closest equivalent that runs on the
Amiga or Lynx (we have both).  Scrapyard Dog on the Lynx is close,
but something about "you don't jump on top of things, and you
don't find coins..." seems to be part of the problem. :-)
Being more of a compiler and RPG person, these subtle arcade differences
are lost on me.

Any and all comments appreciated, post or mail as you see fit.  Thanks.

Don
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Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: all3877@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.L. Lee)
Subject: Re: Beaten Batman Returns?
Originator: all3877@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:23:32 GMT

I have made up to the third level, but then when I reach the end of the
sewer, there are tons of penguins coming after you.  Naturally, I
started to kill them, but they just keep on coming and that is where I
die.  

Does anybody what to do from here on?

Any help will be appreciated.
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
Subject: Re: Is there a shortcut in Gates of Zendocan (sp)
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:37:08 GMT

   Go to level TRYX.  As soon as the level begins, turn on your shields
and go down below the floor.  This will take a couple of tries.
Eventually you will descend beneath the floor; and with some
maneuvering, you will get to the next portal.  This portal takes you to
a level that has all the special weapons.
  This isn't a shortcut, but it may help you get further in the levels.
  [Hints from Corey Chandler!]
From: tmkst6+@pitt.edu (Theodore M Kostek)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx up?
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:13:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: tmkst6@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu

I've never seen this done before, and so I suppose it might be 
considered a waste of bandwidth by some, but 

I WANT TO LYNX UP!!!!!!

My problem is that I don't know anyone else with a lynx.  As you can 
see by the header, I am student at Pitt, and my folks live in Youngstown
Ohio.  If you are a Lynx owner near either of these, and you want to lynx
up, e-mail me.  I have Warbirds, Slimeworld and Awesome Golf, and I
wouldn't mind buying another Lynxable game.



PLEASE!!!


Thanks for hearing me out.
From: kens@css.itd.umich.edu (Ken Small)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Super Mario equiv.?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:13:17 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov18.123137.20367@dbsun.uucp> meyer@dbsun.uucp (Don Meyer) writes:
>Hi.  One of my kids has this annoying fascination with, sigh, _Mario_
>games on the Nintendo and Super Nintendo. :-/ 
>What I'm trying to find is the closest equivalent that runs on the
>Amiga or Lynx (we have both).  Scrapyard Dog on the Lynx is close,
>but something about "you don't jump on top of things, and you
>don't find coins..." seems to be part of the problem. :-)
>Being more of a compiler and RPG person, these subtle arcade differences
>are lost on me.

On the Amiga (and Atari ST) there was a game called Giant Gianna Sisters
which was an almost exact copy of Super Mairo Bros I.  I'm sure it was
sued out of the stores if it ever made it to the US though.  The version I
saw was pirated.
-- 
Ken Small
kens@umich.edu
Consulting and Support Services, University of Michigan
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Shadow of the Beast HELP! needed...
From: djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:34:44 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

	This past weekend I picked up copies of Warbirds and Shadow of the
Beast.  I _LOVE_ them both!  Now I just have to find other Lynx owners to 
play Warbirds with...

	Anyway, I was wondering if there was a way (in SotB) to kill the birds
to the left of the well, he ones you pass on the way to the tree.   Right
now I simply run by them and restore my life within the tree caves.

	Also, is there a way to kill the bees to the left of the well, the ones
on the way to the castle?

	Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

===============================================================================
               Dave Willkomm   <djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Apple-IIGS-----------------------------------------------------------Atari-Lynx
                Ministry:  The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Re: Batman Returns - how do I kil the duck?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:44:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.140510.8591@rdg.dec.com> hilton@bahtat.dec.com writes:
>
>On Batman Returns at the end of the first level,
>you come across the penguin in a huge yellow duck.
>
>How do I kill him? Where exactly am I aiming for?
>

Now is the time of the spoiling...


	Hit the duck's bill something like a dozen times to blow
up the duck.  My preferred strategy is to crouch at the extreme left
on that upper platform and throw Bat-arangs, but you'll easily go
through 30 (and possibly blow your entire supply) this way.

	Then suffer through the next level a few hundred times and
ask yourself "just how much did I pay for this cart?"

>Cheers
>
>Greg

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From: cjfst4@cis.pitt.edu (Chad Freeman)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Game Gear vs. Lynx / recommendation wanted
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:35:26 GMT
Reply-To: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Bobby Tribble (btribble@terapin.com) wrote:
: In article <69537@cup.portal.com>, JMoylan@cup.portal.com (John Thomas Moylan)
: writes:

: The main thing I can say about the Lynx is that if Atari filed bankruptcy and
: stopped all production of Lynx games and all I had to choose from was the
: present library, I'd still be happy. The Lynx is one of the few systems in
: which all games are fun for their genre. I bought Ninja GaiDen a few days ago
: (used for $20) and think it is good. BTW, I've played Game Gear and Gameboy
: games and am not impressed with any of the games for either system (the closest
: is Tetris for the Gameboy, no I don't especially like Sonic for GG) Not to be
: down on Sega - I'm anxiously awaiting my Sega-CD...

Agreed, but lets wait until they release a couple of RPGs before they go bank-
rupt.  And I also agree with you on Sonic for the GameGear, blurry screen,
bland graphics and so-so sound.  Aside from that, most of Game Gear's games are
standard console machine fair, run-n-jump or shoot-em-up, with few variations.

About your Sega CD...well, we've had TWO broken ones in the last two days.  In
fact, the store we bought it from has had four returns out of seven units shi-
pped.  Fortunately Sega is very nice and is shipping a new one to us FedEx.

--
Chad Freeman 					mail: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
			The end.
From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Game Gear vs. Lynx / recommendation wanted
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:49:46 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <69537@cup.portal.com>, JMoylan@cup.portal.com (John Thomas Moylan)
writes:
>other than the consistent low quality of the Lynxes, and almost zero support
>by Atari(typical of the company in the last 8 years) the Lynx is ok, however
>in terms of longevity in both the game system itself, and a continued supply
>of games at a regular pace(as opposed to the sporadic droppings by Atari,
>who usually releases about 5 games over 2 weeks then does nothing for
>a year...) the game gear is the only choice... unless of course you wish
>to support an American company that is not really American(sor much for that
>arguments...}:) leaving game gear once again as the best choice...

The main thing I can say about the Lynx is that if Atari filed bankruptcy and
stopped all production of Lynx games and all I had to choose from was the
present library, I'd still be happy. The Lynx is one of the few systems in
which all games are fun for their genre. I bought Ninja GaiDen a few days ago
(used for $20) and think it is good. BTW, I've played Game Gear and Gameboy
games and am not impressed with any of the games for either system (the closest
is Tetris for the Gameboy, no I don't especially like Sonic for GG) Not to be
down on Sega - I'm anxiously awaiting my Sega-CD...

Bobby Tribble  |8')
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btribble@terapin.com
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Beaten Batman Returns?
From: djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:42:04 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

	How far have people gotten on Batman Returns?  I haven't been playing
it too much because it is so hard.  I have managed to get to the second stage
but only by running through the first!  Has anyone beaten Batman?

	According to Atari literature (Grey Matters Vol. 3), Batman Returns
has body shields you can accquire...which is obviously _NOT_ true; however,
it seems the game was originally designed to be so hard that you would
require these shields to make significant progress in the game.  Hmmm...

Dave

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               Dave Willkomm   <djwillkomm@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Apple-IIGS-----------------------------------------------------------Atari-Lynx
                Ministry:  The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
===============================================================================
From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Game Gear vs. Lynx / recommendation wanted
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:41:50 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) writes:
> The main thing I can say about the Lynx is that if Atari filed bankruptcy and
> stopped all production of Lynx games and all I had to choose from was the
> present library, I'd still be happy. The Lynx is one of the few systems in
> which all games are fun for their genre.

Quite.

When buying computers, you should ALWAYS choose the SOFTWARE FIRST, THEN get
the hardware to run it on.

I looked at all the Game Gear games.  There were three I was interested in
playing.

I looked at all the Lynx games.  There were about ten I was interested in
playing.

No contest, really.

Of course, if you want endless platform games, Karate games and shoot-em-ups,
the GameGear is a good bet.  I prefer "classic" games like Robotron,
Gauntlet, Crystal Mines II (a.k.a. Boulder Dash), even Qix...


mathew
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From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Subject: Re: [LYNX] Games to trade/ games wanted to buy.
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:22:22 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman) writes:
> I have the following Lynx games to trade:
> 
> Batman
> Rampart

Er, yeah.  If anyone's interested in buying my Batman cartridge or swapping
it for something else...


mathew
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
Subject: Shadow of the Beast!?
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:47:01 GMT


  After you get the key, how do you get out of the house?
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx,rec.games.video
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:20:17 -0500 
From: Jeffrey Wayne Alexander <ja1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Gameboy, GameGear, Lynx]: Do you Nicads on your handheld?
	<92324.092906U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>

U59985@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but the voltage for
  NiCad AA's
> is usually about 1.2 to 1.25. Alkaline AA's voltage is 1.5. I could
  never figu
> re out why the voltage on NiCads were lower.

     Oh, that one's EASY! :)  Nickel and cadmium just aren't as
chemically reactive with each other as carbon and magnesium (the most
common metal pair in non-recharchable batteries) are.  Less "umph"
from the chemical reaction equals less "umph" driving the resulting
current.  Just about any introductory chemistry textbook will go into
better detail.


Jeff Alexander              | "INTRUDER!  INTRU>gnignignignignig<" *POW*
ja1r@andrew.cmu.edu (ARPA)  | Totallll carnage!  I *LOVE* IT!
ja1r%andrew@CMCCVB (BITNET) | Never cheat a Zarlor Mercenary.
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Subject: Re: xmc An X11 based MC game
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Keywords: x
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
Organization: 6am Digital Playground
X-Furry-Character: Gerald_Duck
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:06:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.132340.5364@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, ucjtrjf@ucl.ac.uk (Jonny Farringdon) writes:
> Does anyone have the time / skill to write a little X11 prog
> which displayed the tube map (c) on a number of displays, so
> players could point&click on their moves. Maybe with a small
> text panel for edudications, explinations, arguments &c

Well, I can't really help with the X programming, but I do have a map of all
current and projected stations in Acorn RiscOS Draw format. This can be easily
ported to PostScript, or, less easily, to another format someone wants it in.

--Clive.
From: dvm@cs.bham.ac.uk (David V Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
Subject: Re: New Game
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:02:04 GMT
Organization: The Kidlington Continuum

> Time = 9:00 AM 

> Day = Saturday

> Place = Notting Hill Gate

> GO.

Bearing in mind that the Cholmondsley variation is thought
ungentlemanly in Winter, I'll risk a reverse hop and go for

	Ladbroke Grove

D.
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: jstark@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Jens Stark)
Subject: Important news - Rule amandment
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:00:47 GMT
Summary: Rule change - really !
Keywords: Hamburg Rules

 just got hold of the FAQ for this group. It seems to me that it contains
a gross mistake, because it refers to two stations called Jungfernstieg
( reached from Hauptbahnhof ) and Ohlsdorf ( Main cemetry ).

As of 01.12.1992, the rules for travelling on the HVV pub. trans. system
clearly state that :
"2.3.22.1 Smokung, drinking, dancing, begging and trading is not
          allowed on the trains.
 2.3.22.2 [NEW] Referring to HVV stations when playing m.c. is considered
          an illegal move and will be prosecuted accordingly."

   Jens ( living in Hamburg. Stations and trains are stuffed right now.
          You spend hours and hours just avoiding the moves at the gates )

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