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From: masato@bridge.co.JP (Masato YAMANISHI)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.music
Subject: Re: Performer (Re: librarian, editor)
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:50:26 GMT
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Reply-To: masato@bridge.co.jp
Distribution: fj
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In article <MASUI.92Apr6230125@sutra.syslab.iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp> masui@iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Motoo Masui) writes:
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From: hirata@icot.or.jp (Keiji Hirata)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.music
Subject: JMACS Summer Symposium 92: call for papers
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:15:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ICOT 1st Lab., Tokyo, Japan


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From: aochan@elelab.nsc.co.jp (Katsuhiro Aoyagi)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.music
Subject: Re: DSP & Mixer for Sun WS
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:30:04 GMT
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Followup-To: fj.comp.music
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Systems Lab., Electronics Research Labs., Nippon Steel.
In-reply-to: masui@iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp's message of 9 Apr 1992 16:01:04 JST

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From: takai@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Tooru Takai)
Subject: GS format?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:59:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Reply-To: takai@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Tooru Takai)
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

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From: tazawa@msisun.msi.co.jp (tazawa)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.music
Subject: Thank you.(QY10)
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:49:44 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: MSI.Inc. Shinjyuku-ku,Tokyo,JAPAN


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From: masui@iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Motoo Masui)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.music
Subject: Re: Performer (Re: librarian, editor)
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:21:54 GMT
	<AOCHAN.92Apr7114755@indus.elelab.nsc.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: FUJITSU LABORATORIES,IIAS; Kamata, Tokyo, Japan.
In-reply-to: aochan@elelab.nsc.co.jp's message of 7 Apr 92 02:47:55 GMT

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In article <AOCHAN.92Apr7114755@indus.elelab.nsc.co.jp>, 
	aochan@elelab.nsc.co.jp (Katsuhiro Aoyagi) writes:
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From: aochan@elelab.nsc.co.jp (Katsuhiro Aoyagi)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.music
Subject: Re: Performer (Re: librarian, editor)
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:47:55 GMT
	<MASATO.92Apr6153003@eri.bridge.co.JP>
	<MASUI.92Apr6230125@sutra.syslab.iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Systems Lab., Electronics Research Labs., Nippon Steel.
In-reply-to: masui@iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp's message of 6 Apr 1992 23:01:25 JST

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From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Europe is "special"?
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:27:19 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr15.173631.16881@pony.Ingres.COM>, jab@Ingres.COM (Jeff Bowles) writes:
> 
> ** I should not have to compete with automobiles to get to the airport! **

Why?

I know it's inconvenient, but lots of things are.  One might just as
easily say that I should not have to compete with commuters to get
to the airport.  There is no implied duty that airports have to give
you a way to them that does not necessitate taking a street.  It
certainly isn't the duty of taxpayers to provide rail systems for
travelers to airports.  They should be expected to take care of their
own needs first.
From: jordan@MooreNet.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Modern Passenger Rail Service
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:36:51 GMT
Organization: Moore Capital Management, Inc. NYC

David Chase <chased@rbbb.Eng.Sun.COM> writes:

	There's a possibility that trains might do better in the
	Houston-Dallas-Austin/San Antonio triangle.  Houston-Dallas is
	something like 220 miles, Houston-Austin is 165 miles,
	Houston-SA is about 200 miles.

Excellent example.  I agree that this area could seriously use some
conventional rail to cut down on the single-passenger cars that drive
up and down I35, I45, and I10.

However, these distances are a far cry from the "over 600" (or 1000 :-)
that George has been talking about, and illustrate how California might
also benefit from conventional rail.  This shows why the new SJ -> SAC
service is so popular (that's about 140 miles?), while SF->LA TGV
service wouldn't be.  Certainly flying between these cities can't seem
to be very effective (though my wife has flown from HOU to IAH, a
distance of about 40 air miles, on an MD-80 :-) or fun.

Face facts -- these Interstates would be perfect corridors for rail.
The biggest problem, I'd guess, is what to do once you get there.
Dallas has LA-itis, being so spread out as to make most trips there
*require* a car for getting around.  Houston is getting the same.  If
you could get around in these cities like you can in Boston, New York,
and Washington, rail service would be more appealing.

/jordan
From: jordan@MooreNet.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Europe is "special"?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:51:18 GMT
Organization: Moore Capital Management, Inc. NYC

Phil Ngai <pngai@adobe.com> writes:

	Orlando-Miami 200 miles? I think it's a little more than that.

It is "a little more" than that -- my road atlas claims it's about
240-250 (via Vero Beach).  I'm not sure about the demand for passenger
service between those two cities, however.  There are a *lot* of
flights, but I don't know how much of that service is local
passengers.

/jordan
From: jordan@MooreNet.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: BART and Caltrain
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:24:43 GMT
Organization: Moore Capital Management, Inc. NYC

Roger B.A. Klorese <rogerk@QueerNet.ORG> writes:

	...like the Tube to Heathrow, you mean? 

If you read the post (you quoted it, anyway), and if you've been
following the conversation, you'll have noticed that a) I said "most"
and b) I have given LHR as a counter-example several times.  However,
having taken the Tube to Picadilly from LHR, I'd rather have a
non-subway ride for the hour it takes (I've seen published sources of
47 minutes, but it's never happened to me).

LHR is the exception.  And it's not one I like to ride.

/jordan
From: chased@rbbb.Eng.Sun.COM (David Chase)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Modern Passenger Rail Service
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:53:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rbbb

[concerning bikes on trains.]

It wouldn't hurt if we had better bikes to ride.  I've got this bee in
my bonnet to go put a proper chain-guard on my commuto-cyle, but that
involves some work.  Which leads to: does anyone out there know if
bicycles made by "Kettler" (a German firm) are available in the Bay
Area?  I've seen two, and in both cases I was incredibly jealous of
the sensible commuter-oriented design.  They had a derailleur, but
they also had sturdy looking chain guards.  Decent fenders, too.

Oh well.  All we get are mountain bikes and racing bikes.  Nice
enough, but not designed for commuting.  I suppose that's where the
market is.

David Chase
Sun
From: scf@public.BTR.COM (Stephen C. Fenwick  scf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: airplanes vs trains
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:13:33 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <32446@darkstar.ucsc.edu> fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Ross Priven) writes:
>The Canadians are talking about a new TGV-like line in the
>Windsor-Quebec City corridor (mostly by Bombadier, Inc., the big
>Quebec rail firm).  I can't help thinking how much more money it would
>make if it were extended to Chicago via Detroit...
>
>Just a thought, I know this has little to do with ba.anything.

There are only a few cities in the Midwest that could support the
tremendous cost of builing a TGV-like rail line. Chicago, Pittsburgh,
Detroit, Saint Louis, Kansas City, and Dallas/Houston come to mind.

Unfortunately, many of the voters of these states live well outside the
cities; it would probably be politically difficult to convince voters
in (say) Joplin that a Kansas City-Saint Louis-Chicago TGV is a good
thing for them.

Steve/scf@btr.com
(a former resident of three of the cities listed, plus others!)
From: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Europe is "special"?
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:07:52 GMT
Reply-To: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <jkl7s8g@sgi.sgi.com>, jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon) writes:
|> Ok.  For the sake of argument, I'll accept that.  But you could also say
|> that about many other things -- "I shouldn't have to compete with traffic
|> to get to work", "I shouldn't have to compete with traffic to get to the
|> doctor", "I shouldn't have to compete with traffic to buy food", etc. etc.
|> No one should ever have to compete with traffic.  No one should ever have
|> to go hungry, without shelter, etc.  On my list of things that could be
|> should be done, there are many that are higher than providing people a
|> special way to the airport that does not compete with traffic.
|> 
Hmmm.  Did I suggest something "special" ??  I suggested a known alternative to clogging up highways.  

-- 
Excuse me, could you scream just a little louder ??  I can't seem to hear
you.
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
From: jab@Ingres.COM (Jeff Bowles)
Subject: Re: Europe is "special"?
Reply-To: jab@Ingres.COM (Jeff Bowles)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:36:31 GMT

>George Neville-Neil <gnn@manray.Berkeley.EDU> writes:
>	The connections in NY suck rocks.  To get from Laguardia or
>	Kennedy to anywhere useful requires a cab, or a helicopter.
>
>Depending on what your definition of "anywhere useful" is, the bus
>service from all three major airports to the three major transit hubs
>is frequent, cheap, and speedy.
>
>Contrast this with the SFO Airporter ...

Both are terrible replacements for light-rail service (or subways or the
like) directly to/from the airports. SFO Airporter is better than the
bus lines in NYC because they take less people and thereby travel more
often. But $11 to get to SF from SFO? Christ, the "train-to-the-plane"
in NYC (express subway to JFK that's been discontinued) was only $6.50.

** I should not have to compete with automobiles to get to the airport! **

George Neville-Neil <gnn@manray.Berkeley.EDU> writes:
>	If a train ran quickly between NY and Boston you could go from
>	downtown to downtown.  In less time than it takes by plane.

jordan@MooreNet.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
>You can already go over 100mph non-stop NY->Washington on the
>MetroLiner, and air still beats it by an hour and $50.

Hardly. Midtown Manhattan to downtown Washington is about even
when you compare time to the airport, sitting at the terminal,
waiting to take off, and so on....

	Jeff Bowles (who took Metroliner from NYC to a Washington Usenix)
From: vaughnw@asia.fai.COM (Vaughn Wolffe)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Testing
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:54:07 GMT



     Just a test
From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Europe is "special"?
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:34:23 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr16.140752@wsl.dec.com>, gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil) writes:
> In article <jkl7s8g@sgi.sgi.com>, jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon) writes:
> |> Ok.  For the sake of argument, I'll accept that.  But you could also say
> |> that about many other things -- "I shouldn't have to compete with traffic
> |> to get to work", "I shouldn't have to compete with traffic to get to the
> |> doctor", "I shouldn't have to compete with traffic to buy food", etc. etc.
> |> No one should ever have to compete with traffic.  No one should ever have
> |> to go hungry, without shelter, etc.  On my list of things that could be
> |> should be done, there are many that are higher than providing people a
> |> special way to the airport that does not compete with traffic.
> |> 
> Hmmm.  Did I suggest something "special" ??  I suggested a known alternative to clogging up highways.  

Sigh.  This is really mincing words, and I should probably just let it go.

The original post said that one should not have to compete with traffic
to get to the airport.  So I said that it's not in an airport's charter
to provide a way to the airport so that people won't have to compete
with traffic.  The word 'special' referring to the building of a way
to the airport that won't compete with traffic.  Most of us have to
compete with traffic every day.  There is nothing special about the
airport that makes it more necessary to provide a more traffic-free
route thereto.  Whether it is a known alternative or not does not imply
anything with regard to whether it is special.

Many communities have more pressing needs than building a rail line
(what the original poster really meant, although the existence of
rail does not imply the lack of traffic as anyone who has ever had
to ride a crowded subway or a rail line where the car ahead has
broken down would know) to their airport.  This is not to say that
rail to an airport isn't necessarily a good idea, just that there
may be more pressing needs.

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