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From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: Parental authority
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:22:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.182610.23677@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.222054.7414@athena.mit.edu>, tyadav@athena.mit.edu (Tapesh Yadav) writes:
(Stuff Deleated)
>> T.Y.
>> ----
>> tyadav@athena.mit.edu
>
>I have had the occasion to meet real parents in several instances:
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
errr.. Are there imaginary ones too??

:-)
-Saumyen
From: moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: Indian women and Indian men...:-)
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:21:29 GMT
Reply-To: moh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <samaddar.718212528@dumbo> samaddar@siemens.com writes:
>moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne) writes:

>Did your brother watch you wait for him to finish eating? You are
>assuming that you are quite different from women in IA households.
>If that is indeed true, why do you expect your idea about it being
>easier to just avoid dating IA guys, hold true for IA women.

I have no brothers myself.  I've based my ideas on my experiences of
guests in our house and visiting other Indian homes.  I personally
don't care whether IA women date IA men....I was just trying to give
an explanation for why some IA women I know (and myself) have just
about giving up on IA men.  This certainly does not necessarily hold
true across the board.

>Sumitro

 - Amirthi
-- 
The autumn leaves are falling like rain.
Although my neighbors are all barbarians,
And you, you are a thousand miles away,
There are always two cups at my table.		 - A T'ang Dynasty poem
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: baindur@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Satyen G Baindur)
Subject: Propagation Statistics
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:10:35 GMT


   I got curious about readership and propagation statistics 
for this group, and looked them up in news.lists recently. 

These statistics are not too accurate, being based on a sort 
of sample survey, but I was still surprised that as many as 
7200 people seem to read this group, compared to 25000 people 
reading s.c.asian.american and 62000 reading s.c.i.

soc.culture.indian.american seemed to be still carried by 
some sites and had 3900 people listed as readers !

We did better than at least one other group in the s.c.i. heirarchy,
s.c.i.telugu, which had  5100 readers, and seemed to do slightly 
better than s.c.i.telugu in terms of propagation, with 38 % of sites 
in the entire sample carrying us compared to 35 % carrying s.c.i.t. 

At some stage we should be thinking about becoming a soc. group, 
I don't know when it will be six months since the last (renaming) 
vote was held, but it should be coming up pretty soon. 

This is the from the USENET readership report for Sep 92.

The figure in the first column is the numerical rank in the original list.



        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V


  24  62000  2040   71%  2188  5052.9    24%  0.11   4.4%  s.c.i 
 263  25000   825   69%   498  1210.0    18%  0.07   1.8%  s.c.a.a.
1133   7200   236   38%    85   245.2     3%  0.03   0.5%  a.c.us.a-i 
1309   5100   169   35%     -       -      -     -   0.4%  s.c.i.t 
1400   3900   128   36%    10    10.0    10%  0.00   0.3%  s.c.i.a 



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Physics and Astronomy
Johns Hopkins University
From: mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: MCI commercials
Date: 6 Oct 1992 02:32:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

Anybody notice:

1) MCI's big push into advertising in the Indian community?  India-West
recently (over summer) had a big ad of purported relatives in India whom
you could reach with their lower phone rates.  However, I recognized
several of the people in the photo; it turns out the photo was taken at
the Fremont, CA Hindu temple.  (Fremont = Indian ghetto here)

2) MCI's new TV ad featuring international friends/relatives:

- Indian guy, white girlfriend, who say he'll call "his uncle in
  Agra, India."  Pronounces it a-gruh, with a as in apple.

- Sri Lankan guy, gelled hair, earring, glasses, who'll call somebody
  in Sri Lanka.

- MCI adwoman: "Doesn't anybody have relatives in Buffalo anymore?"


Manish
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Subject: Re: Liberal politicians can be racists too
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:30:24 GMT

In article <26SEP199201453227@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu> sklautky@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Stephen Klautky) writes:

>The question I have about racial diversity goes like this:
>Is the act of increasing the racial mix of a select population,
>such as university students, sufficient for broadening the horizons
>of the attendees?  Or, do you have to do more?

It is not sufficient, but it is necessary; it is the basis of racial
education.  However, I don't believe in mandatory racial sensitivity
education or anything of the sort; you have to do more, but it should
be left up to you rather than mandated by the university.

Manish

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: mgundeko@ad-6.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Compelling evolutionary reasons for inter-racial marriages (Re: Ten Best Reasons to Date Indian)
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:52:52 GMT

In article <BvpH86.9wE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> trinas@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Speedy Gonzalez) writes:
>In (alok.vijayvargia) writes:
>>9) They are of Indian origin - same skin, features
>
>Oh, there's a reason!!!!!!!  I don't know, my skin's kinda dry...
>what if he doesn't have dry skin? :)
>>10) Affirmative Action - give them a chance  :-)
>Now - THAT's a reason!!!!!!!


One reason not to marry a person with features same as yours is, in
terms of evolution, you are not adding to the gene-bank (or nature)
more variety, at least one more unique genome, that can face up to the
elements that attempt to obstruct our, that is humans, smooth
progress. 

If that sounds geeky, in other words, you are taking your marriage
into an evolutionary cul-de-sac. Or you are becoming like the Lockhorn
family (refer to funnies).

Of course, this is my personal concoction. Did anyone come across in
science books evidence to support this lockhorn theory? 

By the way, India has some of the most diverse gene bank, given its
history full of foreign invasions. As an aficianado of evolutionary
theory, I can dare say that the Indian subcontinent has the most
accomodating people, compared to a younger civilization here say,
because of the inter-racial alliances, although not everything out
there has been perfect. 

Contrast that with Israel where Arab-Jew marriages are shunned upon,
and so the off-spring from such marriages tends to be politically and
culturally victimized, which is not the case in Indian inter-caste or
inter-religious marriages. 

However, a serious flaw in all political systems, out of conceit than
anything else in my opinion, including in US, is that you can't exist
(can you?) as a citizen of a state by declaring yourself as a no-race,
no-color, no-religion person. If the government were to add this to
the bill of rights, one could see more inter-racial marriages, because
their off-spring is not threatened to be wiped out, not by the natural
evolutionary process, but by the artificial barriers of government
rule.

Has any IA or II given thought to their off-spring when their marriage
is inter-racial such as: indian vs. african-american, indian vs.
chinese, indian vs. anglo-saxon? Much curious to listen these views,
given the level of garbage floating about sexist men like me. :-)


Murthy
From: popat@image.mit.edu (Kris Popat)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: Is the term "desi" appropriate?
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:26:59 GMT
	<1992Oct4.165509.15344@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Advanced Television Research Program


In article <1992Oct4.165509.15344@tamsun.tamu.edu> gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:

> In article <POPAT.92Oct2153338@image.mit.edu>, popat@image.mit.edu (Kris Popat) writes:
> |> 
> |> How about Bharatiya?  Sounds much better to me (and makes more sense)
> |> than desi.
> |> 
> 
> Too many syllables. Desi is simple and good enuf.

Well, "desi" makes no sense at all (particularly if it is to be used
by non-Indians).

Kris Popat
MIT Rm. E15-391  Cambridge, MA  02139
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Venkat Rekula)
Subject: Re: MCI commercials
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Reply-To: a74k110@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:32:49 GMT
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In article <1aqtsnINN6tc@agate.berkeley.edu>, mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon) writes...
>Anybody notice:
> 
>1) MCI's big push into advertising in the Indian community?  India-West
>recently (over summer) had a big ad of purported relatives in India whom
>you could reach with their lower phone rates.  However, I recognized
>several of the people in the photo; it turns out the photo was taken at
>the Fremont, CA Hindu temple.  (Fremont = Indian ghetto here)
> 
>2) MCI's new TV ad featuring international friends/relatives:
> 
>- Indian guy, white girlfriend, who say he'll call "his uncle in
>  Agra, India."  Pronounces it a-gruh, with a as in apple.
> 
>- Sri Lankan guy, gelled hair, earring, glasses, who'll call somebody
>  in Sri Lanka.
> 
>- MCI adwoman: "Doesn't anybody have relatives in Buffalo anymore?"
> 
> 
>Manish


  Not to be picky, but what the hell :).  Your #2 is actually a Sprint
commercial.  At least I think it was, I could have been tripping.  Anyway,
yeah I took a double take at the Indian guy who said "Agra, India", mainly
because he looked a white guy with a dark tan...seriously.  And the Sri Lankan
guy, sheesh, where'd they find these guys?  At least they tried to put
some non-stereotypical people on...I could just imagine this guy wearing 
a turban charming a cobra saying in a thick Indian accent, "I call my 
elephant in India." Right.

-Venkat



Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: mece1xg@menudo.uh.edu (purna)
Subject: gee, i could have sworn i lived in a democracy
Organization: Dept. of Wizardry, Univ. of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 15:10:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.201335.27952@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia) writes:
[...stuff deleted...]
>
>Finally you have found your class. I think I was wrong when
>I chose you to be the successor. I am having second thoughts.

darn.  and i was hoping to crown myself king of usenet...........NOT! :)

>
>Good! I am not looking for an yelling match with you.
>You couldn't last long anyway. Besides I don't have time.

first, i am sure i could last a lot longer than you might believe.  
however, i just prefer not to have a battle of wits with an unarmed 
opponent :)

second, for someone who claims he has no time for usenet, you
sure do post a whole helluva a lot!

>Alok

-purna

p.s. for those others who find this bickering annoying, i apologize.
it's been a bad  week and i haven't had much sleep.  this release
of my frustrations seems to have particular pleasing effect on my
soul :)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu)
Subject: Re: Is the term "desi" appropriate?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.174113.1835@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> baindur@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Satyen G Baindur) writes:
>In article <1992Oct01.154424.19588@watson.ibm.com> saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer) writes:
>>Satyen says:
>>
>
>Two more points - one, Tamil probably does not contain any word which 
>sounds like 'des' or 'desh' , and which means country or countryperson. 

	Oh yes it does -  dEsam

	as in "engaL baaratha dEsam enru thOL kottuvOm"
>Telugu and Kannada seem to. So 'desi' is probably a word few Tamilians 
>would instinctively identify with. 

Gopu
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rgopu@cs.tamu.edu			ParukkuLE nalla naadu
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: khan@us17501.mdc.com (Naseer Khan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: Salman Khan, stud of Bombay
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:38:44 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Sunny Southern California
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In article ... Tushar Agarwal, agarwal@ocf.berkeley.edu writes:
>touched him who hasn't washed her right hand for a week. Well, he is
>generally thought of as a looker, he has huge eyes and pretty cool hair,
>but what many people don't realize (due to camera tricks) is how short he
>is. Like Aamir Khan, he's only about 5'7", and downright puny compared
to 
>some of the older actors like Sanjay Dutt. That's why he has been popular

You know, I was wondering what his height was after watching Saajan.
A couple of things that are a plus for Salmaan is that he has the facial
features necessary for close-up shots, he has obviously put some effort
into developing a good body, and he can act (which is all Raj Kapoor or
Dev
Anand had going for them - just the last asset, I mean.)  So, I don't
mind watching his movies.  But, it definitely seems to me that Indian film
industry has changed its standards of casting if you see all the new
actors and actresses that get a chance these days.

As an aside, the funny thing is in the olden days, Yusuf Khan changed his
name to Dilip Kumar to get in the movies.  Now, Amir Hussain changes
his name to Amir Khan to have an impressive stage name.  BTW, is 
Salmaan Khan really a Khan....?  Inquiring minds want to know ...!!!!


      |      |                        Signed:  Naseer Khan
      | (~)(o)                                 ___________
     C      _)
      | ,___|                                  khan@us17501.mdc.com
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From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ten Best Reasons to Date Indian (Re:To marry (Indian) or not ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:27:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct4.233842.26140@midway.uchicago.edu>, moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne) writes:
> 
> American men may be just as sexist as Indian men....but we have a
> *lot* more American men to choose from....by more than a factor of
> 1000 to 1.  The odds of finding a non-sexist guy are just much higher
> if you're dating Americans.
> 

Dating is not the 'odds' game. One should go on a date with a person 

1) Because that person 'asked'.
2) He is an honest person who wants to share some good times
3) There is something of value in a friendship with this person -
there is something to learn, something to give, something to do
together, 
4) You see this person as a prospective mate or husband.
etc.

> Because there are far fewer of them.  And while you might reasonably
> expect II women to have more in common with II men, the whole point of
> the IA classification is that in large part we *are* Americans.  As an
> American, there is *no* reason to prefer one race over another, so why
> should we go out of our way to date Indians when there are so few of
> them compared to other Americans?

1) Because they are highly educated and have a good potential for earning
2) Because they are intelligent
3) Because they are more family oriented, will take care of the kids
4) They know good Indian cooking ! 
5) They are independent and have accomplishments to their credits
(They made it to America) - you can be proud of them
6) They are more likely to be 'loyal'
7) They are less likely to divorce, hence more stable 
8) They are not 'football' fanatics 
9) They are of Indian origin - same skin, features
10) Affirmative Action - give them a chance  :-)

> -- 
> The autumn leaves are falling like rain.
> Although my neighbors are all barbarians,
> And you, you are a thousand miles away,
> There are always two cups at my table.		 - A T'ang Dynasty poem

Your poetry has me mesmerized. You are very lovely indeed but ...

So long,

Alok
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: To marry (Indian) or not?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:44:34 GMT
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago

In article <1992Oct4.233842.26140@midway.uchicago.edu> moh2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>American men may be just as sexist as Indian men....but we have a
>*lot* more American men to choose from....by more than a factor of
>1000 to 1.  The odds of finding a non-sexist guy are just much higher
>if you're dating Americans.


Huh! Non-sexist doesn't mean the guy is great, does it? He could be a
racist, a sex maniac, a hypochondriac, a cholesterol accumulator, an
adultoror, a TV addict, a roller-skater with reconstructed-face, a
motor bike enthusiast who hates helmets, a sailing freak who doesn't
know how to swim, a hunter who carries a .45 Colt and a Swiss knife in
his underwear, the one who thinks walking through the steamy vapors in
the bathroom will amount to a shower, a truck driver with multiple
blind spots in the retina, a red-meat eater who passes on solmonelli
for peppers.

When there are so many bad guys on this earth, I can't find a better
reason than superficiality or ignorance to answer why some women
chose not to date men because they are sexist (Indian).



Murthy
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Subject: Re: Parental authority
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:25:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.202221.29749@Princeton.EDU>, sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.182610.23677@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia) writes:
> >
> >I have had the occasion to meet real parents in several instances:
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> errr.. Are there imaginary ones too??  :-)

Yes, I am an example, I have been accused of 'patronizing' a million times :-)
Some people are like that.
I really am not a parent as yet. I married only recently.

> -Saumyen
> 


Alok
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: To marry (Indian) or not?
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:35:46 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

nergis@athena.mit.edu (Nergis Mavalvala) writes:

>In my opinion, and in that of most of my friends-- the Indian/Pak women
>we know who choose not to date/marry Indian men mainly make this choice
>because they have been burned more than once by the "typical" 
>sub-continental mans attitude about women which goes something like this:
>"women are paratha-making, baby-growing machines that exist solely 

What is the number of kids that your "typical" sub-continental man
has? I see most of them having <= 2 kids.

How many of your "typical" sub-continental man have home-maker (ie;
non-working) wives? Again, I see very few of them. Some of them have
forgone a few years of career, but once the kids have grown up a little,
they usually start working. I'm talking here of sub-continental men
<= say, 35 years of age.

Sumitro
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: pghol@ctp.com (Preeti Anissa Gholap)
Subject: Re: Fixation on Salman Khan
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:49:24 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners

In article <1992Sep25.135853.20618@bmerh85.bnr.ca> news@bmerh85.bnr.ca (Usenet News) writes:
>> I KNOW some of you want to comment on how 75% of the Indian-American
>> females I know get hysterical at the mention of Salman Khan.  This

>>
>> Bestow those pearls of wisdom upon me o ye of Indian womenhood.
>> Manish

This representative of "Indian womanhood" has but one question:
Who the hell IS he???

-- Preeti   pghol@ctp.com