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From: nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca (Nigel M Burnett)
Subject: Re: Thanks! (was Re: Need answers to trivia questions on Sleeping Beauty!)
Organization: as little as possible
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 21:59:43 GMT

jodi.weber (jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: 
: Two questions, however:  first, I was not able to find out the year in which  
: Sorcerer's apprentice was composed

Well, I searched a bit and cannot find out the date of the composition.
However, it was first performed in 1897 and generally, music is performed
publicly quite soon after it's finished.  I would infer that the date
of its composition was also 1897.  Based on a work by Goethe, it was
very popular and put Paul Dukas 'on the charts' so to speak.

Cheers
N.

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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Is Beauty and the Beast suitable for 4 year old?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:25:03 GMT

hansb@cs.ruu.nl  writes:
> This Christmas, Disney's Beauty and the Beast will be shown in European
> cinema's, including those in the Netherlands. Could someone tell me whether
> this film is suitable to take a 4 year old girl.
> (For instance, I wouldn't take her to The Great Mouse Detective, but she
> enjoyed the little Mermaid, the Rescuers I & II, Peter Pan and some others a
> lot.)

	I saw BatB the first Saturday it was released (I would have seen it
Saturday, but there was an ice storm, and I didn't want to walk a mile to the
theater).  I saw the matinee, and there were many children there.  I dread 
seeing movies with children in the audience, as I fear the noise they will 
make during the movie.  My experience is that the children are better behaved
than the adults!
	As to the movie and the audience, I do not recall any negative 
reactions (crying,etc.) from the children in the audience.  
	By the way, this was the first Disney movie for most of the children 
in the audience (I assume).  Also, when I heard the opening strains of "When
You Wish Upon a Star and saw the Disney "rainbow", my eyes teared up, and I 
missed part of the opening of the movie.
	Please post a review of the movie.  Are the songs dubbed?

Torsten at Omaha	(No, I am USA born; aber meine Mutter war in Hannover
			 gebornen.)
			I tell friends that my name came from a ouija board.
From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney-MGM expansion
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:50:49 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <Bx81oI.CB0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, krol@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Krol) writes:
> cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO) writes:
> 
>>I was told last night, that the long awaited expansion of The Disney-MGM
>>Studios Theme Park finally started about 2 weeks ago.  Currently, earth
>>movers are working round the clock to get the foundations in shape
>>quickly.
> 
> as someone who is leaving for WDW friday, does this have any bad
> repercussions for touring the area?
> 
-- 
As far as I know, there are no scheduled closings yet.  Well, not for
the public anyway.  If you're an employee, then that's a different
story.

Isn't it odd that they had numerous things torn apart for many months,
and now all of a sudden they are mysteriously in a hurry?


John Heiden
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:18:08 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <BxFGyH.153@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn) writes:
> [... Excellent defense against "1st amendment rights" extremists deleted ...]
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 I love it - the term "extremists" being used with the 1st ammendment - you
gotta love it. We've reached a point where people who support free speech
and free expression are "extremists"?? Geezuz...

> Amen to that, brother. And incidentally, in case some of you have forgotten,
> this newsgroup goes well beyond the US borders. So when you refer to "a free
> country" and "1st amendment rights", realize that you are talking to the
> world.

Who cares where it goes - these posts originate in the US (many of them) and
thus it is the responsibility of other nations on the net to monitor what
gets transmitted- if they don't want it, then they can censor it - since
when is it the job of the US to censor for other countries???


			gln



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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: BatB Ballroom scene
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:00:08 GMT

megazone@dolomite.WPI.EDU  writes:
> In article <1992Oct28.184727.5334@uvm.edu> bushey@griffin (Gary Bushey) writes:
> >Could someone more knowledgable than myself please settle
> >a disagreement that arose about this scene.  Is the
> >ballroom itself drawn by people, by computer, or is
> >it real with the characters added in.
> The ballroom, along with several scenes at dinner, etc, were done by computer,
> PIXAR did the work. The characters were drawn in by hand I believe, but the 
> room itself was computer generated. And one of the best damn jobs of it I've
> ever seen.

	Yes, it was well done, but I could tell it was computer generated, 
which defeats the whole purpose.
	I also noticed one spot of computer animation in the Little Mermaid.
When Ariel is eating with Eric and his butler (?), Ariel grabs his pipe and
blows it like a saxaphone.  The ash deposits on his face.  The scene with the 
ash covered face is rendered geometrically, and is very similar to the 
computer animated scenes in the cartoon Betelgeuse.
	These were the only two scenes (besides the akward multi-screens 
during "Be Our Guest") that I noticed.
	I don't think Disney is going to abandon traditional cel animation 
any time soon, as viewers are not accustomed to computer animated movies.
It is still very easy to tell the difference between a computer film and a 
cel film.

		Torsten at Omaha
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Walt Disney's plane at WDW
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:17:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov4.092050.10944@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO) writes:
>Approximately 2 weeks ago, Disney closed a few miles of roads temporarily
>at Walt Disney World to land Walt Disney's personal airplane.  It currently

If it's Walt's original plane, I think it's called a Queen Air
Beechcraft.


- Robert Cook
From: micki@novell.com (Michelle Duncan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Howard Ashman
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:49:07 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Nov9.152441.784@news.ysu.edu> ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis) writes:
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but who is he?  There is a nice dedication
>at the end of the B&tB video to him.  I assume he worked on Beast and
>Little Mermaid.

He was the partner of Alan Menken - together they wrote the
soundtracks for Little Shop of Horrors, The Little Mermaid and Beauty
and the Beast.  Howard Ashman died before Beauty was completed.  Alan
Menken is now paired with a new lyricist and continues to write for
Disney movies.


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From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Precursor stories to BatB?
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:39:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <40849@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>
>Note that there is no Gaston.  Some longer French versions do
>include a protagonist, but none quite like Gaston.  Belle's evil
           ^^^^^^^^^^^

I meant ANTAGONIST!  I've been having problems.... :-)


- Robert Cook
From: kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Kevin Kiuchi )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Sneak Preview--this weekend
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:35:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.5742
Organization: Seattle University


   I saw Aladdin last Tuesday, and it was a great movie. For all of us Disney
fanactics, you will get a real treat when you see it. Make sure you pay a lot 
of attention to the animation, because the scenes are very fast and is superbly
done, especially the palace (but I don't want to ruin too much for the rest of
you). Anyways, I highly recommend this movie to everyone. 
   One thing to keep in mind is that this is the last full length feature movie
Disney's going to do by their regular drawing board artists (or something)..
after this i hear they are going to do most of it by computer. Does anyone know
much about this? 

Kevin 

 
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From: mcdonald@netcom.com (Jim Mc Donald)
Subject: Re: Trivia, Trivia, and more Trivia
Keywords: trivia
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:18:01 GMT

In article <4NOV199220022652@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> e49115611@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN) writes:
>
>2) What is the cheapest (as in price, not quality) item you can buy at
>Disneyland?

Well, if you go into City Hall, ask for a Disneyland Fact Sheet, and they will
give it to you for free. 


>3) Name the title of at least one of Walt Disney's "Laugh-o-grams" (1922)
>
Little-Red-Riding Hood, Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, and Alice's Comedys.

>4) What was The Black Cauldron adapted from?
>
Lloyd Anderson's  Chronicles of Prydain 


Okay, #2 is a matter of opinion, but it is a freebee. (That is CHEAP in my
opinion.)

Jim Mc Donald
mcdonald@netcom.com

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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Aladdin Soundtrack:  Lyrical Feel?
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:22:57 GMT
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1dsonoINN4ne@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear) writes:
>
>Yes, I definitely think there was a different feel between the Ashman
>and Rice songs.  I managed to guess who did all of them after hearing
>them a couple of times.  Basically, I went off of my memory of hearing
>Jesus Christ Superstar (I never saw/heard Chess--bummer) and the fact 
>that the Rice songs definitely didn't say "Howard wrote this" to me.
>It will be interesting to see how the different styles fit the different
>parts of the movie.  

	Clearly the songs in this movie (all of them) were NOT as
memorable as the other two. There is no standout -- like "Under
the Sea" from TLM and "Be Our Guest" from B&TB. 

	BTW -- in the very beginning, the short trader who shows
us the lamp -- was the voice Robin Williams?
	-- Ethan


"President Bush - a man who has said 'Change' more times than
Madonna has said 'Yes'.

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From: sanderso@pleiades.cs.rpi.edu (Don Sanderson)
Subject: Re: Trivia, Trivia, and more Trivia
Keywords: trivia
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:19:03 GMT

In article <4NOV199220022652@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> e49115611@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN) writes:
>
>  As promised here are a few trivia questions that will probably even stump
>Denise:
>
>2) What is the cheapest (as in price, not quality) item you can buy at
>Disneyland?
>
Going from Magic Kingdom experience, I would guess the penny fortune
that you can 'buy' in the arcade.



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From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Fantasmic CD
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:45:00 GMT
Organization: Will pay money for food.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1deaqvINNmo9@uwm.edu>, 
  ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg) writes...

>Once again I am looking for information on the Fantasmic CD.

>Has anyone who has been to Disneyland recently seen this CD in any of the
>stores? 

I was there Saturday (11/7), and it was available in several different shops
and carts.

- snopes

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From: karlon@buengc.bu.edu (William J. Karlon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Corporate Lounges at WDW
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:57:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.101826
Reply-To: karlon@buengc.bu.edu (William J. Karlon)
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Nov6.165452.29576@mks.com> david@mks.com (David Rowley) writes:
>In article <dbarber.720945395@crash.cts.com> dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber) writes:
>>There are at least 3 corporate lounges at EPCOT (as in: Every
>>Person Comes Out Tired) Future World.  They are easy to see if you
>>know what to look for.
>>
>>Question:  Has anyone here been in any of them, and if so, what are
>>they like inside?
>>
>
There is a corporate lounge in the Living Seas pavillion also.  My
father used to work for Pratt and Whitney (a United Technologies Co.)
and my sister and I were able to get in with a letter that he got for
us.  It was basically just a nice room with free drinks like juice and
soda and a bathroom away from the crowds.  The hostess there told us
to let her know when we would like to see the show and we could just
go in.  There was a timer on the wall indicating the time until the
next show.  When we told her we were ready, she opened the door into
the pre-show area (360 film) and as one group was filing out, we went
right in.  It was rather nice.

Bill Karlon (karlon@buengc.bu.edu)
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Trivia, Trivia, and more Trivia
Keywords: trivia
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:31:11 GMT

I suppose anything that costs money is considered a purchase, so I
know for 10 cents you can view the paper animations in the Penny
Arcade, and for 5 cents you can try to land a plane in the old plane
game.  At Pinnochio's I would give directions for a dime ... :-)

I say, I say that's a joke son., lighten up.  - Foghorn Leghorn.


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:04:34 GMT

How about these BIG ones:

1)  The Bimbettes swap hair styles from scene to scene and (sometimes)
    from second to second.  Best of all, by the end of "Gaston" they're
    suddenly all wearing the _same_ hairdo!

2)  The bell jar protecting the Rose has the same problem.  First (as I recall)
    the handle is one big glass ball atop a circle of smaller balls, then it's
    a loop with a straight line of glass blobs, then it's on big ball on top of
    a flattened blob of glass.

3)  In the opening scene, the Beast slashes his portrait along one diagonal.
    When Belle first sees the picture, it's been slashed along the _other_
    diagonal.

4)  Palace Siege scene: the Footstool has LeFou's right shoe and is chased into
    the kitchen.  When LeFou corners the Footstool, he's miraculously got his
    shoe back on.  Then he loses it again when he's chased back out...

5)  Belle discovers the Rose.  Camera circles around the table, dramatically.
    Belle rotates in frame, table rotates, Rose rotates, but the fallen rose
    petals stubbornly remain motionless on the tabletop.

6)  Belle passes broken mirror in hallway of West Wing.  Look in the upper-
    leftmost shard of mirror...a stagehand can be plainly seen, lighting a
    cigarette.

    Just kidding.



-- Andy Ihnatko
   andyi@world.std.com
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From: rjf@cbnews.cb.att.com (robert.j.fredette)
Subject: Mail
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:04:13 GMT
Keywords: #@*&@#$%*@


   A couple of interesting (well, I think so) things were mailed to our home 
yesterday. While working at TYPHOON LAGOON as a lifeguard this past summer,
my daughter, cleaning one of the slides, found a ten dollar bill. Being a good 
castmember, she brought it to lost and found. Well, since nobody claimed it, 
(I'll need the serial number) it was mailed to her with a letter thanking her 
for her honesty.
   The other piece of mail was an invitation to come on down and be a      
castmember for the holiday season. Regretfully, grad school obligations are in
the way. I will NOT quote her.

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From: zandonad@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (marco zandonadi)
Subject: Animation NewsMag WANTED
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:31:15 GMT

Video Cartoon & Comics was the only Italian magazine about cartoons 
and animation in general.
Unfortunately it folded a pair of months ago and now I and many other
italian animation fans are in the dark... :-(
As you can easily imagine the question is: can anybody suggest me 
a good non-Italian Animation NewsMag and its address?
The magazine I'm looking for should be quite general and should
talk about Disney and non-Disney animation.

Thanks in advance.

Marco

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From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Fantasmic CD
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:59:58 PST

In article <1992Nov6.194716.14371@math.ucla.edu>, duehara@yosemite.math.ucla.edu (Dana Uehara) writes:
> 
> In late September (I think this was when Fantasmic was playing on weekends),
> Disneyland had a couple of carts selling Fantasmic merchandise.  I believe
> additional merchandise was also available then at the Emporium, but I don't 
> know about now.

There are three merchandise carts in the viewing area.  The small area in
the Emporium is still stocked, too.  Note that the carts have some stuff
that is not available in the Emporium.

> I suspect that the unavailability of the Fantasmic CD means that Disneyland
> *might* be phasing out the show pretty soon.  Right now it's showing only
> on weekends (I assume it's still going on since I see commercials for it on
> TV).

Yes, it is still going on.  It plays only on weekends because the park
isn't open late enough on weeknights.  Last I heard, Fantasmic! was
scheduled for a run of at least five years.

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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 12:25:19 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ALLADIN TO BE RELEASED EARLY!?
Distribution: world,local
 <1dno8aINNs2q@hpsdlx.sdd.hp.com>

They've been announcing a Nov. 14th sneak preview of Aladdin here in
Phoenix.  I'm trying desperately to get tickets.

Fred McIlvain
icwfm@asuacad
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From: kscott@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Kristin Scott)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 01:20:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

	As to inconsistencies in BatB, oner that I spotted
right away the first time I saw the movie (1 of 6times) was
Belle's house. Sometimes there are wooden buckets (water pails?)
on a rope from the house, as if the inventor had made a way to
bring water into the house without having to walk.  Later, they
were gone.

	Another thing, although not an inconsistency, that I
noticed was on hte cassette for the movie, second side, called
Transformation.  While the movie music is building as the
Beast is changing, ther are flutes, or the like, that keep repeating a 7-note
motif from two earlier songs.  I could hear the following lyrics
in my head while listening to that part of the tape:

	"Ah, isn't this amazing.."
	"Here's where she meets Prince Charming.."

from the song "Belle"

and	"New and a bit alarming.."
	"True that he's no Prince Charming.."
from the song "Something There"

I think that a recap of those first three lines I mentioned 
is exceedingly appropriate for the Transformation scene.


	-Kristin