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From: stefank@math.chalmers.se (Stefan Karlsson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Language of Beer (War: Re: Bar Trek (The Old Generation))
Keywords: Chug, pound, slam
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:33:33 GMT

Apropos Pound and Slam, here on Chalmers University of Technology
in Goteborg, Sweden (that's northern Europe for the Colonials on
the group) there's the tradition of ha"fv (put the two dots over
the a, it should be pronounced rather like a in dare)
You warm a bottle to about 40C (what's that in Fahrenheit, 105?)
there's an exact temp I guess, I'm not a tech student myself, but
there are hard rules in this competition.
Then, at a given signal, you put the bottle to your mouth, shut it
with the help of your hand and shake until the pressure opens up
your throut and the warm beer is banged right down into your stomach.
If you just keep your lips tight you don't have to swallow, if you don't
you'll resemble a rammed firepost or something. I think the record is
about two-three seconds. There's a small residue in the bottle (foam)
which is collected for 'literha"fv' i.e. pounding a litre tankard.
I'll guess I'll be corrected by a 'Chalmerist' now, but I think
my description was fairly OK. I've tried it, but not in a real
competition, although they are regularley held.

Stefan Karlsson
Dep. of Math.
Univ. of Goteborg / Chalmers Univ. of Tech.
Goteborg, Sweden (remember, it's not the same country as Switzerland,
		  it isn't even close, but Americans never seem to
		  know the difference)

stefank@math.calmers.se
From: brew@buscard.fidonet.org (Tony All)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: big foot ale
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 11:49:00 EDT
Reply-To: brew@buscard.fidonet.org (Tony All)
Organization: The Business Card (BBS), Lawrence, MA - Data: 508-682-5329

HI i was wondering if anyone could tell me were i can find
  this stuff called BIG FOOT ALE,it's made by SIEARRA NEVADA
  and it's real hard to find! WHY is it hard to find........
  because it's a barrly wine!
   
                          thanks tony

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From: emeeks@unity.ncsu.edu (Edward Meeks)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: international beer mailing?
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:49:41 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University Computing Center

In article <1992Aug20.190311.18222@menudo.uh.edu> mece1xg@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
>howdy all!
>
>i have been reading alt.beer for some time and i keep seeing 
>one recurring theme cropping up.  mainly, lack of availability 
>of certain beers (especially in the U.S.).  so, here is my
>question/proposal.
>
>there is a group in the U.S. that sells beer by mail of many
>different microbreweries in the U.S.  i believe the outfit is
>called "Beer Across America", though i'm not quite sure.
>anyway, i was wondering if there exists such an organization/group
>for beers from around the WORLD?
>
>if not, would there be interest to start up some kind of
>international mailing of beers (by private citizens, of
>course)?  what are the legalities of such an enterprise?
>also, how would the finances, shipping, handling, etc.
>be best worked out?
>
>it's just an idea.....
>
>-purna

I agree, at face value it's a good idea, but once you factor in:
 
	currency exchange rates,

	whether or not to declare at customs (if one does the 
	duty could be pretty high; if one does not they are, well, smuggling :),

	and how to ensure the shipment is handled properly

it can get rather expensive.  

And that's just getting it stateside (from outside the U.S.). Since
certain beers have an alcohol content higher than legally allowed in
some states, subscribers in different states will not be able to get the
same beers. Another complication!

In short, I think such an enterprise would be a pain to operate within
legal confines. As a consumer, the cost may be too prohibitive to
justify. 

Just off the top of my head! 

--ED
From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Munich beers - recommendations wanted
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:55:14 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <me.714124638@dude> me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel) writes:
>
>If he really wants to try some good dark beer or bock in it's
>'native surrounding', he should try to make a trip to Kloster
>Andechs near Herrsching (about 40 km from Muenchen). They serve
>some great dark and bock beer. He should note, however, that they
>don't serve the bock on weekends (to many drunken tourists then).
>

Is this the Kloster that has the statue of the guy on the horse in the
church? I realize this is hardly a great description, but it's the
best I can come up with. We took a boat to the Kloster and toured the
oddest church I've ever seen, and then had a couple of the best dark
beers I've had in a long while.

Tony Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: Pub Draught Guinness in Chicago!
Followup-To: alt.beer
Summary: Corrections
Organization: Rocking Pig Enteprises
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:56:36 GMT

I hope these important corrections go out before any serious accidents
occur...

In article <1992Aug17.030722.6804@wixer.cactus.org>
lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle "Long, but thin" Mackey) writes:
>In article <92226.195553DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> Don "Spotted Dog" Malzahn <DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>>
>>Course I am sad, because they sold it warm. So I am drinking a Petes  Wicked
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>As it should be...

For those viewing at home, Guinness is -not- served at normal room
temperature... (It's not some stinking English bitter, man!)  On
draught, in Ireland, Guinness is served rather cool; not cold, but
well enough below room temp. (what, about 10 or 12 C?)

>>Ale while I wait for the Guinness to chill.
>
>Heathen! Blashpemer! Guinness SHOULD be served at room temperature! Good
>lord, man, you've been drinking too many Amerikan pisswater beers!

Don't try this at home!  The magic whatsamahoogie inside the new
Guinness cans will NOT FUNCTION at normal room temperature... as it
says clearly on the can, 'Beer must be chilled at least two hours
prior to opening the can!'  If you absolutely MUST have it warm, chill
it, pour it and wait for it to warm up before drinking... (bleah!)

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Xref: sparky alt.beer:4944 soc.culture.canada:5917 can.politics:6054
From: zen@hophead (Nick Zentena)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario s
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:36:50 EDT
Reply-To: zen%hophead@canrem.com (Nick Zentena)
Organization: The Hop Head Saloon

schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

> zen@hophead (Nick Zentena) writes:
> 
> >        You state that imports are cheaper? 
> 
> What I said was that import beer in the US is cheaper than domestic
> beer in Canada. I can go down to Bellingham and pay 6.95 US
> for a jug of imported Paulaner Salvator, a little over three mugs
> worth, while I can pay anywhere from 5 - 7 $ Canadian for a mug
> of import draft. 

        I hope you are not comparing store prices with bar
        prices? If not talk to the tax man. Also here you
        can get a pint(20oz) of many imports in a bar for
        less then $5. Which isn't that much. Now $7 for a
        12oz bottle of Sam Smith in a bar well thats another
        story.
> Thats insane! It doesn't cost any more to get beer to Vancouver 
> than it does to get to Bellingham. 
> 
> We are getting ripped off in Canada!

        Sure it does. Its called taxes!
        Nick

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From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: MIX-Drink with beer
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:53:15 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <169nliINNer6@cs.utexas.edu>, wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
> In article <BsM6K5.Lyr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
> |hagmann@ntb.ch (Rudy Hagmann) writes:
> |
> |
> |>I wonder what kind of liquids you people out there mix with beer ???
> |
> 
> I heard that in Jamaica they sometimes mix Dragon Stout with eggnog... Sounds
> interesting.
> 
> I have tried Dragon Stout and Red Stripe (Jamaican Half-n-Half) and they
> go nicely together.
> 
> Rick
> 

If anyone is interested, I'll post the recipe for the "Flotilla." 
It requires a special glass...
 
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From: srussell@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Stephen Russell,147 Bard,54648,)
Subject: Re: Sam Adams Cream Stout
Originator: srussell@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:13:24 GMT

From article <BtAxIC.LzG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by mayer@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (James Mayer):
> Does any brewmeister in the Washington, DC metro area know where to seek out
> the likely tantelizing treat of the Sam Adams Cream Stout?

I'm not in DC and I hope I am wrong on this one, but when I had this at
Doyle's Pub (1/2 mile from the Sam Adams Brewery in Jamaica Plain) they
said it was on draught only at a few places in the Boston area.

That was in January and, as I said, I hope that this is out of date news.

good luck,

STEVE

ps  it's good but fresh Watney's is better, IMHO.
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From: ftit@engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Re: Canadian Flamewar  (was: Canadian pisswater)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:12:30 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: rec

In article <1992Aug21.134937.26534@burrhus.harvard.edu> kbenoit@isr.harvard.edu (Ken Benoit) writes:
| 
|While this discussion is captivating it is cluttering a newsgroup about
|HOMEBREWING with a beer debate.
|
|Take it to alt.beer!
|

No!  Take it to /dev/null where it belongs, or at least limit the
distribution.  I don't want to sound impolite to our Canadian neighbors,
but there are beer-related things that interest me more than the price
of Budmilloors-analogs north of the border.

|KB
|
|p

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From: jbasara@ssdc.UUCP (Jim Basara)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Microbreweries/Brewpubs/Beer Bars in Milwaukee
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:36:45 GMT
Organization: Sterling Software IMD, Vienna, Va.

The subject line says it all, would some please post a few good places to 
go?

thanks,

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From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Grams-to-Cups
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:25:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right

Welp, the whole house smells like fresh brewed beer.  8^)  I just
made some Breferm Diabolo from Belgium.  (Comments welcome)

Since the recipe called for grams of sugar (I used light dry malt),
and I have no scale (yet), I had to estimate the number of cups
to use.  Is there is convenient way to convert mass to volume
for this application?  The amount indicated was 500 grams.
It makes 9 liters (between 2 & 3 gallons) and is supposed to be
high in alcohol.  X^)

Happy brewing...


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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Name that Beer
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:35:34 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie


busc@midway.uchicago.edu wrote:

> I have been trying to find the name of a particular brand of beer brewed
> in scotland. The only place that I have ever seen it was in Boston two
> years ago, when I was on at a fencing competition at harvard (i think, i
> can't really remeber much of that week-end) my coach (scottish born) said
> that he grew up near to the brewery and that there is/was a nuclear power
> plant nearby-- giving the beer a "distinctive" taste. I believe the bottle
> is green, but i do remember that a white castle or tower was painted or
> carved on it... any help would be greatly appreciated

I think there's a brewery near Thurso, which is near the nuclear research
lab at Dounreay, but I forget what it is.  Another possibility is Belhaven,
which is brewed near Dunbar, seven miles from the Torness nuclear reactor.

However: Dounreay has occasionally leaked, but only into the sea, and they
don't make beer out of seawater.  Torness has, so far, a completely clean
safety record.  Further: there is no way you can taste any sort of low-
level nuclear waste.  Belhaven does have a distinctive flavour, but that's
because of the local geology - it's in one of Scotland's few limestone
areas, giving the brewery a supply of hard water like that commonly used in
English beers.  This *is* connected with the nuclear reactor, but
indirectly - one reason for siting it there was the Dunbar cement plant,
which quarried the local limestone, and reduced costs for materials
transport.  (Belhaven is the other side of the town, so its water supply has
not been affected by the quarrying).

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,)
Subject: Re: I agree!
Reply-To: jimv@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:57:00 GMT

In article 7639@wixer.cactus.org, lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>ObBeerAvailablity: Is Celis available outside the greater Austin/Central Texas
>area yet?  I've been developing a real taste for the Golden, and would like to
>be able to find it in other parts of the state/country.
Not to get into geography 101 wars, as I'd surely lose, but if you don't consider
Dallas as "Austin/Central Texas", which I wouldn't, they have ALL of the Celis
products available here, in bottles and on tap.  Personally, I didn't find it
too distinctive, but I had the Lager, guess I'll give it another go...

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From: mccubbin@connext.ucs.sfu.ca (Bruce McCubbin)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer/Brewing Periodicals?
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:51:44 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

> Many regions of the US and Canada have their own 'brewspaper'.  I believe
> the first was the California Celebrator, a paper devoted to news about
> brewing, brewpubs, microbrews, homebrewing, etc.  These seem to be free
> papers, largely ad-supported, but clearly they take subscriptions.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> STEVE
> -- 
CAMRA B.C. has a periodical but I'm not a member and I'd have to check 
how frequently it's published.  Also there's Beerfront magazine, from
Ontario.  I don't know if it's still published, but it had the usual
reviews and some handy tips on homebrewing.  Of course, browsing through
the ads is almost as interesting as reading the articles.
  
Bruce McCubbin
Newsgroups: alt.beer,soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: CZ94 <CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario s
Organization: McGill University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:19:13 GMT

In article <schuck.714153115@sfu.ca> schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:
>>In article <schuck.713550796@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
>>>Labatt's and Molsons announced today that beer prices will have to
>>>go up 2.5% because of loss of beer sales during Ontario's wet summer.
>>>
>>>Isn't that always the way. The rest of Canada gets screwed because of
>>>something that happened *only* in Ontario.
>
>Besides, as I said before, all Labatts and Molsons do are brew bad
>copies of bad American beer and then spend millions of dollars telling
>the people of Canada that it *doesn't* taste like horse piss.
>
If you don't like their product, why do you care that its price is
going up?

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Colt 45!  Mine misfired.
From: ttasset@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:10:38 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Hey!  I just wanna say that Colt 45 doesn't work everytime.  Fab Four Freddy
and Billy C. are full of it.

	-Tom
Xref: sparky alt.beer:4926 soc.culture.canada:5894 can.politics:6038
From: zen@hophead (Nick Zentena)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario s
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:23:54 EDT
Reply-To: zen%hophead@canrem.com (Nick Zentena)
Organization: The Hop Head Saloon

schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

> 
> 1) Just to stir up a little shit over their stupidity.

        Well if people are paying it it's hardly stupid.

> 2) Labatt's and Molsons have so much influence in the Canadian market
>    that *their* prices become the defacto standard. Beer prices in
>    Canada are already outrageous compared the US [Even compared to
>    really tasty imports] We don't need the price rising just because
>    Ontario had a cool summer!
> 

        Why did the prices go up? I can't see any relation
        between the BC market and Ontario unless we are
        supporting you. Why don't you call Molson BC and
        ask?

        No one is stopping Micros from having lower prices.
        Why don't any of them? Here in Ontario the tax
        situation means that something like 50%+ of a case
        of beer goes to taxes. Take that figure out of the
        price. Take the fact that various province still
        blockade the importation of beer brewed in other
        provinces. Factor in the losses from small batches
        small plants and the like.

        You state that imports are cheaper? Well how much is
        Sierra Nevada in BC? How about Anchor or any of the
        major micros? We can get Grants here but at close to
        $5 a 12oz bottle no thanks. The price for Sierra
        Nevada in Buffalo is something over $9US a 6pack
        plus duty&taxes of 55%. All local micros are cheaper
        then that. Sam Smiths is in the $3 a bottle range
        locally. What tasty imports are you getting cheap in
        BC?

        Oh please shed some light on the situation.
        Nick

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