HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jsparkes@bwdls138.bnr.ca (Jeff Sparkes)
Subject: get-screen-for-buffer + raise under tvtwm (was: 2 questions)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:25:22 GMT

In article <TFB.92Aug12134552@eagle.aisb.ed.ac.uk> tfb@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Tim Bradshaw) writes:
>>>>>> On 11 Aug 92 22:32:44 GMT, jwz@lucid.com (Jamie Zawinski) said:
>
>> In message <9208112202.AA03604@maestro.mitre.org> Michael Lamoureux wrote:
>>>
>>> I was trying to get get-screen-for-buffer to work as documented.  I did a
>>> grep through the source, and I determined that get-screen-for-buffer never
>>> get's called.
>
>> It's called by virtue of begin the value of pre-display-buffer-hook, which 
>> is called from display-buffer.  The problem is that there are several other
>> ways that buffers can get displayed besides calling display-buffer.  If you 
>> do find-file, it just calls switch-to-buffer, meaning reuse the current 
>> window. If you do find-file-other-window, it uses display-buffer, so it
>> should pop up in another screen.
>
>>> I don't know why it works at all, and I don't know why, if it works at all,
>>> that it doesn't work as documented.  
>
>> I think it does work as documented, but it's not clear that what it does is
>> all that useful.
>
>I think that get-screen-for-buffer works correctly.  However I am
>fairly sure that the code that drives it is broken in some way.  I
>have code that uses it to display manual pages in their own screens &
>quite often but in some unpredictable way, the wrong buffer ends up in
>the newly created screen.  I looked at what get-screen-for-buffer was
>doing and it creates & returns the correct screen, but somewhere after
>then the buffer-screen correspondence is lost.  I couldn't really work
>out what was doing this but it seemed to be obscure, and I'm still not
>100% sure it's not my misunderstanding of what is meant to happen.

This whole thread sounded interesting, so I started playing with
get-screen-for-buffer.  A little poking around in files.el, and the
using the advise package led me to this:

(require 'advise)
(advise 'after-find-file 'jds:find-screen 'after)

(defun jds:find-screen(junk)
  (get-screen-for-buffer (current-buffer)))


This seems to work well, but I still haven't exhaustively tested it.

BTW, this also led me to discover that raise-window does not work, but
lower-window does.  I'm on a sun, running X11R5 and tvtwm.  Anyone
else have this problem?
--
--
Jeff Sparkes jsparkes@bnr.ca	Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa (613)765-2503
"For better gas mileage, do not drive with the parking brake on."
  - paraphrased from the owners manual of my Integra.
Subject: Re: Error in init file: error: "Lisp nesting exceeds max-lisp-eval-depth"
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:44:51 -0400
From: Todd_Kaufmann@JUNIN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
> Once I did that, I started getting the message
> 
> Error in init file: error: "Lisp nesting exceeds max-lisp-eval-depth"

I get this message from a bad interaction of ange-ftp and Ilisp;
they both overload expand-file-name, and then seem to call each other
infinitely, max'ing out the stack.

If you (setq debug-on-error t) first, you should see this in the *Backtrace*.

You will either see a function calling itself recursively, or all different
functions.  If the latter, you might only need to increase the value of
max-lisp-eval-depth.

 -todd
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: okeefe@cns.nyu.edu (Larry O'Keefe)
Subject: TeX mode problems
Reply-To: okeefe@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:39:18 GMT

I am having difficulty geting lucid to load TeX mode.  It returns File local
variables error: (file-error: "cannot open load file" "oshell").  Any
suggestions?

---
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Center for Neural Science
New York University
6 Washington Place, 8th Floor
New York, NY  10003
okeefe@cns.nyu.edu
(212) 998-7898

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:39:19 EDT
From: weiner@pts.mot.com (Bob Weiner)
Subject: Menu and mouse support for News ?
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: beust@rhea.inria.fr (Cedric Beust)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Irritating ^M in comint mode
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:20:39 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis, France


	How can I remove the ^M's I keep seing in the modes derived from
	comint? I tried to hook	comint-send-input but it doesn't work
	for text I didn't type myself...


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Pho:(33) 93.65.78.07(.66 Fax), INRIA, B.P.93 - 06902 Sophia Antipolis, FRANCE.
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: mcclen@advtech.uswest.com ( Chris McClenaghan)
Subject: Strange VM and GNUS behavior with menubar
Organization: US WEST Advanced Technologies, Boulder, Colorado
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:58:24 GMT

VM and GNUS are in my default menubar, some posted the code
awhile back. Occasionally they both startup incorrectly.
Sometimes VM will not retrieve mail from the mail spool, on retry
it will; sometimes GNUS prompts for news server, most times not.
Does anyone have an explanation for this behavior? I haven't seen
it from the keyboard, although I think someone else complained
about simialr behavior for VM.

--
Chris McClenaghan    mcclen@advtech.uswest.com

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:14:45 +0200
From: Guido.Bosch%loria.fr@lucid.com (Guido Bosch)
Subject: Re: mode-motion package
	<BOSCH.92Aug5135209@moebius.loria.fr>
Reply-To: bosch%loria.fr@lucid.com (Guido BOSCH)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Chet.Murthy@inria.fr writes:
 > 
 > Dear Guido,
 > 
 > I just FTP'd your mode-motion package, and it works like a charm in
 > dired, but nothing happens in emacs-lisp mode (nor in lisp-mode, for
 > that matter).
 > 
 > I verified that the local variable mode-motion-hook was indeed set to
 > mouse-track-highlight-thing.
 > 

I guess youre using a bold font as default in your Emacs.  But
`mouse-track-highlight-thing' just turns things into bold. Use the
following motion handler to get the same highlighting effect as for
the line motion handlers (this will be the default in the next
version):

(defun mouse-track-highlight-thing (event)
    "Track the mouse motion by highlighting the smallest syntactic structure
mouse is over.  This function can be used as value of the variable
`mouse-motion-handler'.  Takes One Argument: EVENT"

  (mouse-track-highlight-region
   event
   (function thing-boundaries)
   't))

And use this one for highlighting things in bold (You will see, it
looks better if you do not use a bold font as default):

(defun mouse-track-highlight-thing-bold (event) 
  "Track the mouse motion by highlighting the smallest syntactic
structure mouse is over.  Highlighting is done by using a bold face.
This function can be used as value of the variable
`mouse-motion-handler'.  Takes One Argument: EVENT"

  (mouse-track-highlight-region
   event
   (function thing-boundaries)))


Try also the Meta Button2 copy facility on highlighted things. 

Enjoy, 

	Guido
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: mcclen@advtech.uswest.com ( Chris McClenaghan)
Subject: Re: popup menu resources
Organization: US WEST Advanced Technologies, Boulder, Colorado
	<9208181324.AA03456@moebius.loria.fr>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:43:12 GMT

Here's what I've learned on this subject. I believe popup menu
resources are avilable through screen attributes, so I'd think
you could put some face seeting code in the popup menu which used
the optional screen parmeter specifying the popup menu screen.

I'm not clear how to do this, but reading screen.el should
provide some direction, possibly even the appopriate hooks.
The selected-screen funtion returns an appropriate value for use
as the optional screen parameter in the face setting code.

 
--
Chris McClenaghan    mcclen@advtech.uswest.com
From: hogan@csl.sri.com (Emmett Hogan)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: FAQ ?
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:02:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Lab, SRI International, Menlo Park, CA.
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message are those of an
	      individual at SRI International, and do not necessarily
	      reflect those of the company.


Hi All,

Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup yet?  I ask this simply because I
KNOW I am about to ask a question which has appeared here UMPTEEN
MILLION times during the short lifespan of this group, but I
unfortunately keep missing the answer.  So I waited a month, looking
for a FAQ to appear, but to no avail.  But anyway here is my question...

Where can I get the lhilit package?

Thanks in advance,
Emmett


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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:21:15 EDT
From: ex594bw@pts.mot.com (Bob Weiner)
Subject: Isn't there a way to say: (get-face-at-point)?
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Without having to check whether point is within an extent or not.
This seems basic to me but I can't find such a function.

An Epoch compatibility package mapping face functions to Epoch styles
and extents to Epoch zones through abstract interfaces sure would simplify
life for package developers.  It doesn't seem like a very hard task either.

Bob
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:24:00 -0700
From: Brock@CAMIS.Stanford.Edu (Kevin Brock)
Reply-To: Brock@CAMIS.Stanford.Edu
Subject: RE: Texinfo files
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
>Cannot open load file: oshell
>
>Can anyone suggest a fix for this ??

Remove the (require 'oshell) line from elisp file
in which it occurs.

Kevin Brock
brock@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
From: thomas@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Thomas Plass)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: "Buttons" in menubar?
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:20:52 GMT
Reply-To: thomas@uk.ac.ed.cogsci
Distribution: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, University of Edinburgh


Subject line says it all, really but I'll expand.  Is it possible to
have items in the menubar (in Lucid Emacs 19.2.1) that don't have a
pull-down menu attached to them and respond to a simple mouse click,
rather like buttons?  If that sounds a strange thing to have, imagine
that the items are not represented by alphanumeric characters but by
"symbols" and execute functions for which it would not make sense to
group them together.

Any help would be appreciated.

th.
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From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: hiding and exposing text
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:34:35 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <MCCLEN.92Aug12205450@alder.uswest.com> mcclen@uswest.com ( Chris McClenaghan) writes:
>I'm looking for a package of emacs lisp code that allows hiding
>of regions of text and subsequent exposure of the hidden text.

look at the documentation on selective-display. This is the only emacs
facility I know of for hiding text. It's a little weird, but it does
work.

There are various folding modes for emacs, also. They allow you to
mark sections of text to be hidden or displayed. There's a fold.el
(comes with emacs-18.58?) - is very minimal. I have had good luck with
folding.el by Jamie Lokier for a fuller origami editor. folding.el
should be in the elisp archives.

>As an example, I'd like to collapse the body of a while statement
>in C or C++ leaving just the while and condition with some sort
>of ellipsis mark that could be selected for exposing the text.

I've been thinking of writing some C++/C syntax sensitive folding
code. Ie: fold the defun, fold the current sexp, fold this arbitrary
block of text. They're all fairly easy, really.

Has anyone taken the time to write that folds your source code along
obvious syntactic boundaries?
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/   Delicious & Nutritious breakfast cereals shot from guns!
From: bobhays@spss.com
Subject: Could anyone that has lucid up on AIX 3.2.2 contact me?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:46:20 CDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
I've looked at the help and bugs listings and ....

Has anyone gotten Lucid working on AIX 3.2.2?  If so, please email me
at bobhays@spss.com.

Thanks and have fun! - Bob
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:14:35 +0200
From: h.b.furuseth%usit.uio.no@lucid.com
Subject: Re: Automatic load path failing?
	<9208140418.AA04768@thalidomide.lucid>
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
I think you can define the four paths in paths.h (be sure to include
trailing "/"s everywhere!) and then insert something like this in
site-init.el:

    (defun set-default-load-path ()
      ;; various search paths were set here
      (and (boundp 'Info-directory-list) (null Info-directory-list)
           (setq Info-directory-list
                 (list (expand-file-name "../info/" exec-directory))))
      (set-default-load-path-warning))

To get it slightly more flexible, set load-path in paths.h to all your
load directories EXCEPT the standard load path with subdirectories, and
insert this in set-default-load-path too:

    (let ((lisp (expand-file-name "../lisp/" exec-directory)))
      (or (member lisp load-path)
	  (setq load-path
		(nconc load-path (list lisp)
		       (mapcar 'file-name-as-directory
			       (directory-files lisp t "^[^.]" nil 'dirs))))))


I wish for a way to nail down load-path myself (other than hacking the
code), since it does not help to modify paths.h when dumped paths must
be named "/local/..." and /local is a symlink.

My default load-path is ("...lisp/local/" "...lisp/elc/" "...lisp/" nil)
where local/ has files that override the standard packages and elc/ has
links to all standard .elc files (or .el files when an .elc is missing).
The last is to avoid directory searches of course.
There is also a lisp/extra/ directory which _must_not_ be inserted
in load-path by default; it has "use at your own risk" packages that may
not work with V19.


Hallvard
From: bobhays@spss.com
Subject: Please add me to the mailing list
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:51:17 CDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Please add me to this mailing list.

I'm trying to get Lucid running on an AIX 3.2.2 system.  I've kept my
changes (:-) but still am not done - it segment violates on occasion
or, if it does not, it will produce the X window and then hang.

Thanks and have fun! - Bob
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From: jim@baldrick.cs.flinders.edu.au (Jim Entwisle)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: hiding and exposing text
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:13:05 GMT
Organization: Flinders University


You may find the Outline mode useful. It includes a regular expression
that can be re-defined to work on things like while loops etc. as
required. 

Jim Entwisle
From: aaron@iscp.bellcore.com (Aaron Akman)
Subject: How do I unsubscribe to groups related to lemacs?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:32:06 -0500
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
I've misplaced the original message, sorry.
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: grunwald@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
Subject: x-find-selected-file
Reply-To: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Distribution: alt
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:55:50


Something like this might be a better choice for the ``open file''
menubar item.

(defun x-find-selected-file ()
  (interactive)
  (setq last-command nil)
  (let
      ((filename nil))
    (if (and (x-selection-owner-p) primary-selection-extent)
	(save-excursion
	  (set-buffer (extent-buffer primary-selection-extent))
	  (setq filename
		(buffer-substring
		 (extent-start-position primary-selection-extent)
		 (extent-end-position primary-selection-extent))))
      )
    (if (and filename (file-exists-p filename))
	(find-file filename)
      (call-interactively 'find-file)
      )
    )
  )
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: grunwald@goober.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
Subject: Re: Strange VM and GNUS behavior with menubar
Reply-To: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:50:13

>>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:58:24 GMT, mcclen@advtech.uswest.com ( Chris McClenaghan) said:

CM> Nntp-Posting-Host: alder.advtech.uswest.com

CM> VM and GNUS are in my default menubar, some posted the code
CM> awhile back. Occasionally they both startup incorrectly.
CM> Sometimes VM will not retrieve mail from the mail spool, on retry
CM> it will; sometimes GNUS prompts for news server, most times not.
CM> Does anyone have an explanation for this behavior? I haven't seen
CM> it from the keyboard, although I think someone else complained
CM> about simialr behavior for VM.
--

I've had this happen on occasion as well - I also have (on a
DECstation, configured with s-bsd4-3.h and m-pmax.h) had the shell
process report...

	Process shell<1> stopped (tty input)

I'm digging for the solution, but haven't got much time to do so.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:48:15 PDT
X-Windows: The first fully modular software disaster.
From: jwz@lucid.com (Jamie Zawinski)
Subject: Re: popup menu resources
	<9208181324.AA03456@moebius.loria.fr>
	<BOSCH.92Aug13170300@moebius.loria.fr>
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
In message <9208181324.AA03456@moebius.loria.fr> Guido Bosch wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, but I have no answer to your question. I custommized the
> menubar font, just as you did, I guess, but I couldn't yet figure out
> how to control the popup menu resources or whether they exist at all.

The popups are named "popup", so 

	Emacs*popup.foreground: foobar

should work.  If you're using Motif popups, they accept the normal 
Motif resources.  If you're using the Lucid popups, check the file
src/lwlib/xlwmenu.c for the resources obeyed.

	-- Jamie
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
Subject: Re: Automatic load path failing?
Reply-To: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:19:38 GMT


This appears to be related to the ``realpath'' stuff.

Below is my load-path. The stuff in ``/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src''
is the mount point for the automounted ``/srl/src'' directory.

I imagine it's also attempting to look in
``/tmp_mnt/goober/srl/Lucid.critical/lisp''
(the mount point for the /srl/Lucid19 directory).

Any fix for this problem? I'd rather have the directory name *I* use
be inserted here.

While we're at it, I seem to not get the nice gray bitmap for
selections - it looks like it's not finding the bitmap file, although
it does find the include directories. Could this be a similar problem?
(Yes, parts of my X11 distribution are automounted).


/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/Edb
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/Forms
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/RCS-mode
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/TreeDired
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/Ange-FTP
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/BBDB-1.46
/srl/Emacs/local/VorTeX
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/CMU
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/Calendar
/srl/Emacs/local/SC-2.2
/srl/Emacs/local/calc-2.01
/srl/Emacs/local/vm-5.31
/srl/Emacs/local/Gnus-3.14.1
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs/Timer
/home/foobar/grunwald/Emacs
/srl/Emacs/local
/srl/Lucid19/lisp
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/bytecomp/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/calendar/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/comint/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/dired/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/electric/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/emulators/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/energize/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/gnus/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/ilisp/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/modes/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/packages/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/prim/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/rmail/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/sunview/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/term/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/utils/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/vm/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/vms/
/tmp_mnt/coco/export/coco/src/Lucid19/lemacs-19.2/lisp/x11/
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Re: epoch init hook
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:08:26 GMT
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


>>>>> "harald" == harald  <harald%itk.unit.no@lucid.com> writes:

    harald> I want to have a way to make SITE WIDE defaults like
    harald> (autoload ...) in Lucid Emacs (lemacs).

    harald> Of cause this can be done in site-init.el, but then I have
    harald> to recompile lemacs every time we install a new package.
    harald> The other alternative is default.el, but that file is
    harald> loadet after ~/.emacs.  This inhibits any personal
    harald> preferences.

    harald> And I don't want every user to have a (load-file
    harald> "our-site-defaults" ..) in their ~/.emacs.

Use my startup-patch available on the elisp archive.  It does exactly
what you're looking for by adding the load of emacs-site.el
(configurable) in the following order:

dump-time: site-init.el, run-time: emacs-site.el, ~/.emacs, default.el

I've been using it in emacs18 for years and its essential (IMHO) if
you manage emacs for a large number of users.  You need to be careful
where you put things (site-init or emacs-site) since your choices will
affect emacs startup time, but its very easy to just add new packages
to your users' environs.  Also, users can inhibit the load of
emacs-site with a new comline switch, -s (mirroring the existing -q
switch).


lisp-dir-apropos sez:

		  GNU Emacs Lisp Code Directory Apropos -- "startup"
"~/" refers to archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:/pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/

startup-patch		  89-09-05
	 Barry A. Warsaw, <bwarsaw@cen.com>
	 ~/misc/startup.patch.Z
	 Mods to startup.el for settable command line arguments, among others
From: blk@mitre.org (Brian L. Kahn)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: suid on dump
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:54:36 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corp. Bedford, MA


Seems that suid on restore would be a problem, since restore will set
owner/mode if you ask it to.  N'est Pas?

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From: wangw@iti.gov.sg (Wang Wei Jun (CC))
Subject: Info. Wanted: Access Control documents
Keywords: Access Control, Security
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:18:01 GMT


Greetings!

Could someone point me some articles on implementing Access Control
(Multilevel, MLS) for Applications (e.g. a database retrieval, etc.)?
I'd appreciate some classical literatures and recent developments on
MLS Access Control.

Please e-mail to me and I'll summarize if I get enough replies.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Weijun Wang
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