From: ges@stiatl.salestech.com (Gerald Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Air Conditioning
Keywords: CFC
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:36:30 GMT
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.

hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:

>borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski) says:
>.In rec.autos, beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
>.
>.>I am bout to purchase a new Geo Storm Coupe....
>.>
>.>I was a bit confused about the Air Conditioning posts I have
>.>been reading over the past week....
>.>
>.>Can someone explain this 1995 thing to me clearly????????????
>.
>.In 1995, you will no longer be able to have your air conditioning system
>.recharged with Freon-12, the the stuff they use in it now.  The
>.use of Freon-12 will be banned.

>ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!!!!

>PRODUCTION of CFC's will cease on a certain date (1995, 2000, whatever).
>You can still use it.  You can use it forever if yiu want.  However,
>due to demand and increasing excise taxes, it will get more
>expensive to obtain.  Donald, don't answer questions unless
>you are informed.

>.
>.If your air conditioning system never leaks, you will have no problem.
>.But, almost all auto air conditioning system develop leaks after a few
>.years.  So the Freon leaks out.  No Freon, no cool.  With no replacement
>.after 1995, you might be stuck with a useless system.


>WRONG - A terribly misinformed answer.

>.
>.There are some proposed alternatives.  They have several disadvantages.
>.Freon-134a is a proposed alternative.  Unfortunately, it doesn't cool
>.very well in systems designed for Freon-12.  In addition, it doesn't help
>.carry lubricating oil back to the compressor.  The oil winds up in low
>.spots of the system, away from the compressor.  Without oil, the compressor
>.quickly fails.  Also, this Freon has a nasty habit of chemically reacting
>.with any water or dirt in the system, forming acids which then eat the
>.components of the system.

>You don't have to worry about replacements!!!!

>.
>.There are some other alternatives, which are mixtures, all of which have
>.the disadvantages listed above to some degree, plus some additional
>.disadvantages of their own.
>.
>.So buy your air conditioning now.  Enjoy it as long as it works.  The put
>.aside $1500 to $2000 to buy yourself a new system compatible with the
>.new refrigerants in a few years.  Or learn how to recharge your own
>.system with iso-butane and propane (see discussion on the net from a few
>.days ago).
>.
>WRONG!!!!!!!

>.
>.Donald Borowski    WA6OMI    Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division

>."Angels are able to fly because they take themselves so lightly."
>.                                       -G.K. Chesterton
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Do you mind telling us the right answer or at least where the above 
statments are wrong?

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