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From: zh@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de (Z. Horvat)
Subject: Font Problem
Organization: Rechenzentrum Universitaet Konstanz
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:56:52 GMT

I've finaly managed to build Andrew under AIX 3.2 by
making some slight modifications to config/rs_aix31/*
(commenting #undef ANSI_C_SOURCE and some other slight
mofifications).

Apllications start and seem to run fine, but it looks
like they cannot find the approriate fonts - everything
is always displayed with same font and size, except
the menu bar, which has the correct font (I've used
Andrew before, so i know what it has to look like).

I have already tried
xset +fp /usr/andrew/X11fonts and
xset fp rehash
several times, but i can't figure out what's needed to
make ez and other applications using the right fonts.
I've build with and without DPS_ENV yet, without any luck.
What irritates me is that no error message is displayed at all.

Thanks in advance for any hints on the subject.

-- 

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SYS337654 Could not locate coffee - Operator halted 
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Z. Horvat
Rechenzentrum Universitaet Konstanz
++49-7531-88-2405

zh@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de
rzhorv@nyx.uni-konstanz.de
From: rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Andrew Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Annoying delay when loading fonts
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:11:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Ieo5guW00Woi0qcV9j
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 5-Oct-92 Annoying delay when
loading.. Matthew Wyneken@sun1.ruf (1032)

> Can anybody tell me what is causing the lags? Is there anything
I can do about it?

The most likely sources for delay are the network, disk access, and of
course scaling.  There is basically nothing which can be done short of
using fewer different fonts.  I suppose it might be useful to have a
client connect to the server and allocate commonly used fonts to
minimize the need to reload fonts from disk.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium
From: Bob_Dew@ALW.NIH.GOV
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: building 5.1 on HP-UX
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:30:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

We're trying to build the latest Andrew release for hp700_ux805 under
AFS 3.1.  

The HP-UX link editor reports the following error, when attempting to
run "makedo" on atk/basics/common/path.o:

> ld: DP-Relative Code in file /usr/afsws/lib/afs/libsys.a(rmtsysc.o) -
> Shared Library must be Position-Independent

This seems an odd error, as "libsys.a" is not a shared library.

Previously, we encountered other build problems involving an AFS header
file (<netinet/in.h>) whose inclusion seemed to be missing from several
source files in andrew/overhead. 

Has anyone successfully compiled Andrew 5.1 on HP-UX with AFS defined?

Thanks for any help,

-Bob
From: gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: building 5.1 on HP-UX
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:50:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from misc: 2-Oct-92 building 5.1 on HP-UX Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov (659*)

> The HP-UX link editor reports the following error, when attempting to
> run "makedo" on atk/basics/common/path.o:

> > ld: DP-Relative Code in file /usr/afsws/lib/afs/libsys.a(rmtsysc.o) -
> > Shared Library must be Position-Independent

On HP-UX you cannot combine position-independent code (pic) and
absolutely referenced code from regular old static archive libs.  The
ATK dynamic objects are implemented as shared libraries and Transarc
doesn't ship shared client libraries.  Most libraries on HP-UX come in
both shared and absolute flavors.  They only need build their client
libs with the -z (make pic) flag or provide shared libs and everything
would be fine.  

Excerpts from misc: 2-Oct-92 building 5.1 on HP-UX Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov (659*)

> Has anyone successfully compiled Andrew 5.1 on HP-UX with AFS defined?

No, but I have thought of some possible workarounds, all involving
methods I find distasteful, and finally decided to wait for Transarc to
do the right thing.

Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
From: isabelle@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca (Isabelle Tourneux)
Subject: ADEW : initializations of values and texts, and flip page.
Followup-To: poster
Originator: isabelle@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
Organization: MCRLab - University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:30:05 GMT


I am writing a User Interface with Adew, and Adew has a strange behaviour
towards flipping pages, and initializations of values and texts associated with views.

I have got 2 buttons and a page . In this page, there are a multiple string entry
view (menterstrV) and a text. The value of the multiple string entry and the text
have to be initialized.
I would like button 1 to flip page to the menterstrV, and button 2 to the text,
both of them with the right text displayed . So I have put a page_SEtNowPlayingByName
in the CallBack of each button.

I have noticed that if the textview is the first view visible of the page , I can
initialize the text in the controller_go (with text_AlwaysInsertCharacters). But it
doesn't work if the textview is not visible at the beginning (if menterstrV is 
visible).
I thought the text and the textview would be more independant than that. Is it not 
possible to initialize a text without its view being displayed ? How is memorized 
the text ? Is it static or dynamic (and lost when the view is not visible) ?

So I have tried to initialize the text and the menterstrV value in InitializeObject. It
is not accepted. So what is the use of the controller's InitializeObject ?

I have also tried to initialize the text and the menterstrV value in the CallBack
of the button which calls the view. When I click on a button, the view is correctly
displayed and the value or text initialized , but only if the view is visible or HAS 
BEEN ALREADY VISIBLE since I ran the controller. It puzzles me that it works if the
view has been already visible, and is not visible now. Could somebody explain that
behaviour ? It seems that some initializations are done when the view is made
visible for the first time. So I would like to force these initializations in the
code of the button CallBack.

What is the code to flip page when the view has NEVER been once visible ? (because
page_SEtNowPlayingByName doesn't work in that case ).
What is the code I could add to the button CallBack to initialize a value or text,
when the view has NEVER been once visible ? And could this code be added somewhere
else ?


Thank you for all explanation and advice you could give me.

 Isabelle Tourneux, multimedia Lab of the University of Ottawa.
   isabelle@shamin.genie.uottawa.ca
From: susan+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Susan Straub)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Proposed tree mods
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:03:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In an effort to reduce the size of the 'standard' AUIS distribution, we
propose the following rearrangement of the source tree.  Your comments
are welcome.  Especially welcome are suggestions of other subtrees that
could be moved from the main distribution to some part of contrib.

Move to ./contrib/unsup
(unsupported, not tested, not normally installed)
	./atk/calc
	./atk/champ
	./atk/examples/atkbook
	./atk/kal
	./atk/layout
	./atk/zip
	./overhead/pobbconf
	./overhead/parsec

Move from ./contrib to ./contrib/srctext:

	./contrib/ltext 
	./contrib/m3text 
	./contrib/mtext 
	./contrib/ptext 

Move ./atk/ctext to ./atk/srctext and include:  

	./contrib/rctext
	./contrib/rmtext
	./contrib/compress

Obsolete and soon to be removed: 
	./contrib/parsegen
	(replaced with ./atk/syntax/...)

Remove from the distribution
(copies of code available on previous releases)

	./install (replaced by ./inst)
	./atk/console/consoles/*.vop
	./atk/form (not implemented)
	./atk/gob (not used)
	./atk/value.R4
	./config/pmax_3
	./config/sun2_35
	./config/sun3_35
	./config/rt_r3
	./config/vax_3
	./overhead/conv
	./contrib/rctext (reimplemented in ./atk/srctext)
	./contrib/rmtext  (reimplemented in ./atk/srctext)
	./contrib/compress (reimplemented in ./atk/srctext)

The following refer to cmu/scs only:

Remove from standard build procedure: 
(one copy will exist in released omega tree but recompiled only on request)

	./contrib/demos
	./contrib/champ
	./contrib/zip/utility
		includes lt, ltapp, ltv, sched, schedapp, schedv
	./contrib/pobbconf
	./overhead/parsec
	./atk/examples

Removed from standard build procedure: 
(no binary installed)
	
	./contrib/calc
	./contrib/kal
From: gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Annoying delay when loading fonts
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:50:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.geo5Mke00Woh8z1YsN
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 5-Oct-92 Annoying delay when
loading.. Matthew Wyneken@sun1.ruf (1032)

> I at first thought that maybe fonts were being resized but then
> I noticed that the delays also come for font sizes that have 
already been created and are in the font path.

The delays you are noticing are caused when a font is called for that is
not already in the Xserver.  Once loaded the delay should cease -- for
that particular font-family/size combination.  Let me know if you have a
repeatable case where this delay happens over and over for the same font.

Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
From: Bob_Dew@ALW.NIH.GOV
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Monochrome Setup
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:46:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

For whatever reason, a black background setting can cause Andrew display
problems on some black & white monitors.  We have similar problems with
a b&w high resolution HP monitor, and with Graphon X-terminals.

To work around the problem, try a shaded background, like

	xterm -fg white -bg darkslategrey


-Bob
From: wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Cattey)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: building 5.1 on HP-UX
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:43:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

At the risk of torching up another fire storm:  Isn't it about time
we removed the AFS dependencies from AUIS?

Does anyone remember the reason why EZ needs to know about AFS?

I know that there used to be a problem with sending mail if one of
the AFS file servers in your MSPATH went down.

In the interest of making porting easier, and making the system simpler
and thereby easier to maintain, could we investigate removing all the AFS_ENV
code?

-wdc
From: nsb@THUMPER.BELLCORE.COM (Nathaniel Borenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Messages/Zmail interactions
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:48:17 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Well, the latest version of zmail actually understands MIME format, and
thus should be able to read Andrew mail that includes pictures, etc. --
definitely an advantage!  If it thinks there is an attachment for plain
text, this is probably a bug in the MIME patch for zmail -- it should
treat plain ascii text as a special case, that's all.  -- Nathaniel
From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: New XPRISM3 Available
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:40:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40716


I have just a new toolbox out on pprg.eece.unm.edu.

This toolbox contains a new xprism3 program. This version of xprism3 has
a file update mechanism added. 

Suppose that while you are displaying an datafile (plot) with
xprism3, the datafile being plotted is over-written.  Xprism3 will 
automatically register the fact that the input file has been changed,
and update the currently displayed plot accordingly.  Using this argument, you can determine how often the input file is checked for any potential 
modifications.  It must be specified "-update floatvalue", where float-
value is a floating point value which must be greater than zero.

To aquire the xprism toolbox:

     a.   Use ftp to connect to pprg.eece.unm.edu.
          % ftp pprg.eece.unm.edu
               -or-
          % ftp 129.24.24.10

     b.   Use "anonymous" or "ftp" as the user name.
          Name (pprg.eece.unm.edu:login): anonymous
               -or-
          Name (pprg.eece.unm.edu:): ftp

     c.   Use your e-mail address as the password; please
          carefully use a valid e-mail address, as this ver-
          sion site logs all anonymous ftp's.
          Password (pprg.eece.unm.edu:user): {your valid e-
          mail address}
          331 Anonymous login ok, use your E-MAIL address as
          the password.
          230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.

          ftp> cd /pub/khoros/toolbox
	  ftp> bin
          ftp> get xprism.tar.Z
	  ftp> get README

follow the instructions in the README to install the new xprism3.


Good Luck,

Tom

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The Khoros Group          |
Dept. of EECE             |  
University of New Mexico  |  Phone: (505) 277-6563
Albuquerque, NM 87131     |    Fax: (505) 277-1439
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From: bcs@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Unresolved symbols during SunOS make
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:05:35 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi all,

I'm installing Khoros for the first time on a Sun4 (IPC) running
SunOS4.1.2, using Sun's own C compiler.  All seems to go well, until link
time for many of the programs:

vexwarp, animate, cantata, composer, concert, conductor, editimage,
iconimage, kraftsman, preview, putimage, viewimage, warpimage, ghostwriter,
xprism2, xprism3, xverror, xvhelp & xvviewer ALL fail to link with a single
unresolved symbol: "_vexpr_parse".  So far as I can tell there is but one
reference to this symbol, on line 509 of ./src/Lib/vexpr/expr_util.c.
There it is, as plain as day.  Nowhere else in the source for libvexpr.a
does the symbol occur (yes, I've checked the header files for macros),
hence the symbol is not resolved insode the library as one might expect.
Please - can anyone tell me what has gone wrong?

Similary, but less dramatically, "dzresp" and "dfilter" fail to link - the
symbol "_dspl_parse" is unresolved; and "mat2viff" fails lacking the symbol
"_format_parse".

It seems a little odd that all three missing symbols are *_parse routines -
is some trick being used that is not quite coming off in my environment for
some reason?

Much obliged for any help, replies by mail please.

+-Brent Summers, U of Waikato, NZ----------------------------------------+
|    "Laugh and the world ignores you.  Crying doesn't help either."     |
|      All opinions expressed are, of course, solely my own errors.      |
+------------------------------------------------------bcs@waikato.ac.nz-+
From: simmeth@kogs22.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Robert-Josef Simmeth)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: grayscale morphology
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:50:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40706


-- 
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Robert-J. Simmeth		   Universitaet Hamburg, FB Informatik
simmeth@informatik.uni-hamburg.de  Bodenstedtstr.16 D-2000 Hamburg 50
Tel. +49 40 4123 6140 	Fax. +49 40 4123 6530
From: huffman@donna.gsfc.nasa.gov (George Huffman)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: New xprism3
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:46:45 GMT

Tom Sauer - [I'm asking on the net on the assumption that other folks
will have the same question]  Is the automatic update the only new
capability of the new xprism3?

George Huffman
From: danielle@chama.eece.unm.edu (Danielle Argiro)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: How to get lib without compiling
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:08:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40714



        Compiled libs for SUN4, SGI, DECMIPS, and 386/486 are
        available on pprg.eece.unm.edu (129.24.24.10) in the
        directory, /pub/khoros/bin/lib{arch}/.  The confusing
	thing is that they are under "bin".

		~ danielle  

       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       ~   Danielle Argiro - danielle@bullwinkle.eece.unm.edu   ~
       ~   Software Design & Development, The Khoros Group      ~
       ~   Room 110, EECE Building, UNM;  Albq, NM 87131        ~
       ~                                                        ~
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: donohoe@jemez.eece.unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Morpho bugs
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:21:20 GMT


Paraphrase from several users:

"The morpho routines produce an error and won't accept the data type
I've specified:  they say I need type VFF_TYP_1_BYTE or VFF_TYP_4_BYTE,
which is just what I've asked for!"

There is a bug in vgdiskse,  the routine that generates disk structuring
elements, that causes this error.  I've fixed it,  but there is another
bug I'm still working on.  I'll put the corrected vgdiskse.prog file
in the ftp directory and annotated it in the README,  as soon as I've
got the other bug fixed...probably this weekend.

You can try out the routines by using a spherical structuring element,
from 'vgballse'.  Actually,  you can use ANY image of type INT as a
structuring element;  the only difference is that images generated
by vgdiskse and vgballse set the 'ispare1' and 'ispare2' entries in
the VIFF header to correspond to the origin of the structuring element.

I require structuring elements to be type INT so that pixels that are
negative can be declared "background" and don't take part in the 
computation.  This allows 0 to be a legal foreground value.

===========================================================
Greg Donohoe, Ph.D.  Assistant Prof.
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Univeristy of New Mexico       Tel: 505-277-6724
Albuquerque, NM 87131        email: donohoe@chama.eece.unm.edu

"It's NOT impossible.  I used to bullseye wamp rats in my T-16 back
home,  and THEY're not much bigger than two metres."  -- Luke Skywalker

===========================================================

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: mathew@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mathew Yeates)
Subject: Re: color maps
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:28:58 GMT

huffman@donna.gsfc.nasa.gov (George Huffman) writes:

>Hi - while color maps are up for discussion, how do you create a "colormap
>image" that is sure to have colors assigned to all the byte values in some
>range?  When I create a colormap image from a real image, some of the byte
>values are missing, so when I tranfer the colormap, the next image
>almost always has some pixels with no color assigned (i.e., they have
>their original color).

>George Huffman

I ran into a similar problem when I ran vresize on image with a colormap.
vresize does a bilinear interpolation, resulting in new values that
werent present in the previous colormap. Problems.

Mathew Yeates

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: julien@scs.leeds.ac.uk (J C Flack)
Subject: Re: _S_p_l_i_t_ Khoros NewsGroup ?
Originator: julien@csparc2
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:11:53 GMT

In article <40765@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu> jworley@snidley.eece.unm.edu (Jeremy Worley) writes:
>
>In "_S_p_l_i_t_ Khoros NewsGroup ?", Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd# writes:
>| 
>| is it possible to SPLIT this news-group in two subgroups ?
>| for instance in one group, discussing "installation problem"
>| and the other for real "graphic/algorithm-problems" ?
>| [... stuff deleted ...]

>This is an interesting idea.  Many news groups end up splitting into
>multiple groups when the traffic is heavy and it seems to fall into
>distict categories.  In the end, it is probably not destructive.
> [... stuff deleted ...]
>
>-jer
>

There does seem to be two fairly distinct groups of postings.
I would welcome a split into "installation problems" and
"graphic/algorithm-problems". Are there good reasons why this
is not a good idea ?

--

Julien Flack.
julien@scs.leeds.ac.uk


Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: mathew@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mathew Yeates)
Subject: Re: Using the output of "editimage"
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:46:09 GMT

ytang@blue.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Yuan-Ling Tang) writes:


>Dear Khoros people:

>    I need some help for the following:
>    Here is what I tried to do.

>    +-----+     +--------+     +---------+     +-----+
>    |input|     |raw2viff|     |editimage|     |vdiff|
>    |     | --> |        | --> |         | --> |     | --> ....
>    +-----+     +--------+     +---------+     +-----+

>    After I click on the "run" button, the whole process will result in
>    displaying an image by the "editimage" (it actually stops running at
>    this point). Then I do some manipulation using editimage, such as
>    annotation, and then I "combine annotations". From here I try to
>    click the on/off button on the glyph "vdiff." The problems is 
>    "vdiff" fails by signalling "incorrect header by count". So how do I 
>    do further processing using the output of "editimage"? I also tried 
>    to output the combined image to a file and used that file as an input
>    to "vdiff". But it failed again with the error message "Map enable
>    value should be to VFF_MAP_OPTIONAL." I can, however, display this
>    file using "put_update."

The output of editimage is the result of extracting a region of 
interest (ROI). Under the roi pane you need to grab the entire image
and write it out.

Mathew Yeates
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: help!
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Keywords: installit, hosed, sun4
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:03:58 CDT



all you Sun gurus out there - what am I doing wrong?

> reston% tail -f make.World
> makedepend:  dnormal.c (reading /usr/include/sys/signal.h): makedepend:  cannot
> find include file "vm/faultcode.h"
> makedepend:     not in /usr/include/sys/vm/faultcode.h
> makedepend:     not in /home/reston/carroll/khoros/include/vm/faultcode.h
> makedepend:     not in /usr/include/vm/faultcode.h
> makedepend:  cannot open "vm/faultcode.h"
> depending in ./dspl/modify_seq1D/dscale...
> make: Warning: Can't find `default.mk': No such file or directory
> makedepend -s "# DO NOT DELETE" --  -I/home/reston/carroll/khoros/include     -D
> VFORK -DTEMPNAM -DPUTENV  -DRANDOM   -DWAIT3      -- dscale.c
> makedepend:  dscale.c (reading /usr/include/sys/signal.h): makedepend:  cannot f
> ind include file "vm/faultcode.h"
> makedepend:     not in /usr/include/sys/vm/faultcode.h
> makedepend:     not in /home/reston/carroll/khoros/include/vm/faultcode.h
> makedepend:     not in /usr/include/vm/faultcode.h
> makedepend:  cannot open "vm/faultcode.h"
> depending in ./dspl/modify_seq1D/dshift...
> make: Warning: Can't find `default.mk': No such file or directory
...
more of the same...

>reston% uname -a
>SunOS reston 4.1.2 1 sun4c
>reston% ls -l /usr/include/vm
>/usr/include/vm unreadable

Do I need root privilege on this box?

thx

Jeff Carroll
carroll@reston.cray.com
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: mathew@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mathew Yeates)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:21:41 GMT

For some reason, the following information was left out of the latest FAQ.
There is a database of khorosmail available for queries if you have the
WAIS (Wide Area Information Service) software. WAIS is available from
think.com in the wais subdirectory.

You need to know the following
1) host name = henry.jpl.nasa.gov
2) port = 1025
3) database name = khorosmail

This service is for the Khoros community only. I am not announcing
this server in the usual way in the directory of servers database at
quake.think.com.

So.... Shhhhhhhhhh!

Mathew Yeates

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros