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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:39:58 -0600
From:         CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Recasting "Rocky Horror"

How about the actor who plays "Al" in the TV show _Home Improvements_
as "Brad"?

Carol Doms
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:35:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Film for adult and kid

Richard,
      I agree with both Michael and Dave. Aladdin and A River Runs
Through It are fine films. Avoid Toys.
                                             Rolando
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:34:21 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Brother's Keeper

Rick, thanks for the additional info.  Alternative cinema is rare in these
parts, so I may have to wait till this one appears on video.  I'm going to
MLA, and if I see you at any Joyce sessions, I'll be sure to introduce myself
(obviously, I already know you by sight).  Should I see you anywhere else, I'll
run and hide (heh heh cough).  I go to MLA with a heavy hearts, sans interviews;
   I have but a three-year adjunct assistant professorship here at ISU, so I'll
   have
(have) two more shots at it from here, but investing so much time in the job-
hunting process for so little acknowledgement weighs heavily upon me year upon
year . . .

Sorry for the whining, all . . .

michael mcdonald
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:51:07 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Leap of Faith

I, for one, was quite disappointed with this film.  I quite agree that Martin
was at his best during the film's quieter, more thoughtful moments, and I do
appreciate the strength his acting showed in this respect (Winger and Neeson are
   both wonderful, consistently strong actors, as they were here, but I frankly
thought that these fine actors were wasted in roles that were superficial and
underwritten).

I was just never able to accept Martin as an evangelist, even as a glitzy,
hucksterish one.  In particular, I cringed at the kinetics of his stage act.
As he pranced, leapt, and generally cavorted about the stage, all I could
think of was the Wild and Crazy Guy.  I wish someone had told him that the
film would have been popular without his antics, which I found unbelievable
and *unappealing*.

The ending is simply appalling, so much so that I really don't even want to
discuss it.

I'm generally a Martin fan, and so went to the movie with great good will,
but left feeling melancholy at the thought of yet another spectacle without
substance.  Oh well.

michael mcdonald
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:20:00 EST
From:         AYC3@NCH08A.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      Sybil and a music question

I was hoping one of you might know the answer to a question that I and my
husband (an avid, albeit amateur, pianist) have about the movie SYBIL with
Sally Field. There is a really beautiful piano piece (by Mozart, we believe)
that she plays toward the end of the movie, and we want to know what it is.
It may have been playing at other times in the movie, but we recall it mainly
at the end and throughout the credits.  Efforts to locate a soundtrack have
not succeeded so far.

Thanks,
Anjani
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:25:14 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Leah and The Miracle

I'm more than willing to consider that I simply missed the point of
*The Miracle*, but the video put me to sleep fast and hard.  I really
tried to pay attention, too, especially because I am inveterately
fascinated by most things Irish and Celtophilic, but my impression of this
film is that it lacks energy, wit, and grace.  I never did finish watching
it.

By the way, Neil Jordan is a fairly acclaimed novelist to boot.  Has anyone
read his stuff?  I have *Night in Tunisia* checked out from the library, but
have yet to read any of his novels . . .

michael mcdonald
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:51:00 CST
From:         Becky Albitz 5-5931 <CADALBTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Season's Greetings Revised...

I guess this list will be very quiet for the next week and a half.
From those of us who have to work--enjoy your time off, we'll
be thinking of you!  :-(   (wishing we were with you)
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:09:53 EST
From:         Dennis Downes <DENNISD@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Flame-grilled turkey

I thought Donald Sutherland's role in Backdraft was the best part of the
movie. Granted, I dont think his character could hold the whole movie, but
because it was short, it was just enough to make it interesting.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:42:34 -0500
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Frankenstein Unbound

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            30-Dec-1992 03:35pm EST
FROM:  MDESCHUYTENEER
TO:    CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET                ( _CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET )

SUBJECT: RE: Frankenstein Unbound

    Carol,

    I stand corrected. And thanks for the info, I may try to read those
    books if I have the time. I remember reading the French translation of
    another book by B.W. aldiss years ago and enjoying it a lot. The
    translated title was "Le Monde Vert" ("The Green World", but this may
    not be the original title).

    MICHEL
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:11:25 CST
From:         Leah Krevit <lkrevit@BITE.DB.UTH.TMC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Crying Game and Toys

OOOOOOO  Possible spoilers ahead, so read with care!!??  OOOOOOOO



Oh, but I disagree about the pace of the first section of _The Crying
Game_, guys! It seemed almost excruciatingly slow to me, for I knew
(could guess) the outcome. I had also read enough to know what Jordan
had planned in terms of change-of-venue, so to speak, and thus was
somewhat prepared for the change-of-pace as well. I am planning to see
this movie again over the holidays, strong sentiments from a non-first-run
moviegoer.

Re:_Toys_

Michael Gambon (_Singing Detective_, PBS Mystery _Maigret_) plays the
general. He also played the zookeeper in _Turtle Diary_, one of my
favorite films. I am sorry to hear he may be striking out in this role.
He is most respected as a theatre actor in Britain, I understand. And
don't forget _CTWL_ (does everyone remember this?).

Ciao for now.

Leah
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From:         Udo Meyer <MEYER@DDAGSI1.BITNET>
Subject:      NetNews server SW

Can somebody point me to a FTP host, where NetNews server software is
available?
The server should run on an IBM RISC/6000 with AIX V3.2 and communicate
with the excellent NNTP client on our MVS system and several clients on
UNIX machines.

Happy EARNing...Udo Meyer, GSI Darmstadt (Germany)
                           Manager Operations and Teleprocessing
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:49:39 EDT
From:         Craig Jackson <cjackson@MGH.COM>
Subject:      Re: TCP/IP from VSE/SP
              Dec 28, 92 4:06 pm

I'm pretty sure that OpenConnect Systems (formerly Mitek) makes some
sort of TCP/IP product for VSE.

--
Craig Jackson -- cjackson@mgh.com (Straight Internet)
dricejb@drilex.dri.mgh.com (uucp-forwarded)
{bbn,alliant,redsox}!drilex!{dricej,dricejb}
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:00:00 -06
From:         Bill Kelly <KELLYWH@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IBM's MVS TCP/IP problems

Leonard Woren writes:

>... By the time
>MVS TCPIP is usable, MVS won't be around.  Certainly not here.  Lack
>of a decent MVS TCPIP will do more to kill off MVS than cheap unix
>workstations are doing.

Hear! Hear!  You've got a way with words, man...

And Steve Bacher writes:

>... - and, at long last, an admission that mainframes are no
>longer the most profitable item on which to focus their business.
>
>It seems to me that the word has come down from on high NOT to devote
>any more resources to improving mainframe operations, other than
>those facilities which are critical to large batch-driven businesses.
>TCP/IP would clearly not fall into that category.

I would be very interested in hearing speculation on this.  I think
that the great majority of MVS shops don't fall into the category of
"large batch-driven businesses".  Is it IBM's strategy to properly
support the mainframe for its usable lifetime (whatever that is - 5
years? 10? 15?)  Or is it their strategy to bleed the market for what
it can while it can, by not practising competetive pricing and not
putting anything into development and support?  I believe the latter
strategy would hasten the small to medium shops' abandonment of the
mainframe. The former strategy might actually result in a place (albeit
a smaller one than today) for the mainframe in the future.

I suppose they'll do whatever they think will be the most profitable
in the long run.

Just my opinions...

Bill Kelly                 phone: (205) 844-4512
Auburn University       Internet: KELLYWH@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:20:30 -0600
From:         matt@OC.COM
Subject:      Re: IBMLink

>On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:06:42 CET Steve Perez said:
>>
>>As for commercial uses of the Internet....I have to admit that I didn't
>>consider this. I can see how making use of the configurators, sales info and
>>other marketing stuff could be seen as a violation of the spirit of Internet.
>>But I don't see the Internet community getting up in arms over something
>>like this (if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know).
>>
>
>I've heard this argument before, but I seem to remember some discussion
>somewhere that would lead me to believe that IBMLINK access via Internet
>wouldn't be considered "commercial use" of the net.

The Internet, whatever that consists of at this slice of time, does not
have a commercial use restriction.  Specific networks within the Internet
do.  Examples of such networks are NSFNet, ESNet, and NSNet.  Many network
not only do not have a commercial use restriction they, in fact, encourage
commercial use.  CIX, the Commercial Internet eXchange, is an organization
of such networks.  It includes the commercial Internet providers, UUNET
and PSI, but also includes a number of the regionals. THENet/Sesquinet
(Texas),
CERFNet (Calif).

Unfortunatly, it's not a clear cut issue.  It's all a matter of which
network(s) your traffic has to traverse to get to it's destination.


--
Matthew Lyle                                            (214) 888-0474
OpenConnect Systems                                     matt@oc.com
Dallas, TX

"...and once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your
    eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you long
    to return..."
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From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: IBM's MVS TCP/IP Problems
Organization: Draper Laboratory
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:14:00 GMT

Denis DeLaRoca and Leonard Woren recently commented on IBM's failure
and/or refusal to fix fundamental problems in MVS TCP/IP.

While I agree with their comments, some current perspective is in order.
IBM recently announced that, due to financial difficulties, they are
implementing yet another retrenchment program.  This includes the
abandonment of their no-layoff policy - about 25,000 people are expected
to be let go - and, at long last, an admission that mainframes are no
longer the most profitable item on which to focus their business.

It seems to me that the word has come down from on high NOT to devote
any more resources to improving mainframe operations, other than those
facilities which are critical to large batch-driven businesses.  TCP/IP
would clearly not fall into that category.

Therefore, while the behavior of IBM wrt MVS TCP/IP is unacceptable,
it is to be expected, given the state of the market.

Btw, yet another MVS TCP/IP problem:  the latest FTP doesn't allow
hyphens in data set names anymore.  IBM was good enough to take an
APAR, but the fix is (again!) broken:  data sets containing a period
followed by a dollar sign don't work with this APAR. (Why only a
dollar sign?  ".#" and ".@" work fine.  What's in their mind?)

Also, I don't understand why the fix was distributed as a huge update
with no accompanying source code and mucho relinking required. The
original PTF which this is supposed to fix was one module, for which we
even received PASCAL source.  Is is really that hard to fix a lousy
single character in a translate table?

To be fair, the bad management of this product due to several factors:
IBM's VM/CMS-based approach to the product, with little innate
understanding of MVS; IBM's problems with the "real computing world" in
general; and the more universal difficulties of maintaining and building
software in multiple high-level languages, something not limited to IBM.
If you really want to puke, just look at X-Windows from the point of
view of distribution and maintainability some time.  Now you can't
blame IBM for that!

--
Steve Bacher (Batchman)                 Draper Laboratory
Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA
From: allen@zeus.wg.waii.com (Rusty Allen)
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Subject: Re: IBM's MVS TCP/IP problems
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:43:59 GMT
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX

Ron Lane rightly defends MVS TCP/IP but the problems with MVS TCP/IP is
"The Death of a thousand cuts" rather than the "Shot to the Head". I point 
out a new feature that Ron listed.

SMF records are very poorly implemented with 
MVS TCP/IP FTP V2R2.1 First I hate to point out that MVS TCP/IP FTP is an
IBM PRODUCT and thus should have a IBM assigned SMF records number in
the IBM reserved range 0-127.
 
Speaking of SMF numbers I also note that there are seven events that can
produce smf records and thus eat up SEVEN different SMF numbers in the
LIMITED SMF user range. If the better SMF Standard record header with subtype 
had been used ( see MVS/ESA SMF GC28-1628-2 page 8-3 ) then only one
smf record type number would be needed with subtypes for each event.
I hear someone saying why not use one SMF record number and not worry
about subtypes. One record number would be fine if there were few 
smf records but there are millions and millions of records. Standard 
smf utilities can filter on type/subtype/subsystem that is in the STANDARD
smf Header with subtype. 

Well I seem to be talking about the records layout that MVS TCP/IP FTP
is creating. I see in TCP/IP Planning and Customization (sc31-6085-02 
pg. 172-173) that everything is a displacement off +0. I remember the days of
smf type4/5 records before smftype30 records with their indirect 
referencing to the data sections in the record. Every time new data 
needed to be added to the record all our accounting systems had to be changed
first. There was not any version number in the old smf4/5 records, so there
was not any to tell what level of code generated the records. I expect
that over time the information in the TCP/IP FTP SMF records will change.

I conclude that IBM TCP/IP is like a one legged man in a B*T kicking contest.
"They fall down a lot and Hurt themself mostly". I will be chairing 
"C817-Understanding the IUCV sockets Interface of TCP/IP for MVS" and 
"C830-TCP/IP: Concept of Routing in a Heterogeneous Network" at SHARE_80
in S.F. Mar 1-5. I hope to see some of ya'll there (ya'll is texan for
"You Guys"). 
-- 
M.R. Allen            My comments are my own, not my company's.
Western Geophysical - A division of Western Atlas International,
                      A Litton/Dresser Company
DOMAIN addr: allen@wg.waii.com
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:12:30 +0100
From:         Eva Hocks <hocks@RZRI6F.GSI.DE>
Subject:      Re: NetNews server SW
              23 Dec 92 13:50:54 GMT.) <9212231252.AA26225@rzri6f.gsi.de>

NNTP-server nntp-1.5 distribution is available on
  freja.diku.dk
as well as several ftp-sites in USA.
\Eva.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:00:56 -0700
From:         bradley@MARCVM.MARC.USDA.GOV
Subject:      Re: Phone Number/Address of OpensConnect Systems (Mitek)

I just called them yesterday.  Why is 3279 emulation so expensive??? :-(

Open Connect: (214) 484-5200
Walldata:     (206) 883-4777
Attachmate:   (800) 426-6283


>If anyone has the phone number and/or address of the company, I'd
>appreciate it if you would reply to me privately.  I can't find it in
>any of the sources I checked.  Thanks.
Randy Bradley;  Systems Programmer; USDA Meat Animal Research Center
<bradley@marcvm.marc.usda.gov>
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:12:00 PST
From:         Michael Stein <CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Usage of vector facility for TCP/IP?

> Since soon a major X-terminal wave will hit us I am looking
> oncemore for ways to reduce the CPU consumption of TCP/IP.

Reduce the number of instructions in TCP/IP.  It's way too high...

> Is there a way to use the vector processors on the mainframe for
> the TCP/IP protocol stack and/or the X-Window system?

It might be possible to compute the TCP checksum using the vector
hardware for large packets and thereby save some CPU time.
Unfortunately, since TCP doesn't spend all that much time of the
CPU it uses computing the checksum that wouldn't save all that
much CPU.

> I guess this is a vital question for IBM.  Up to now more than
> 90% of our CPU has gone into batch. If this batch load would be
> severely diminished by 200+ (concurrent) X-terminals running
> X-Window based graphic applications nobody might listen anymore
> to pro-mainframe arguments in a scientific environment.

Yup.

"You're selling me the fastest general available computer on the
 planet and it connects to my network via this straw?"...
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From: GRET@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU
Subject: Multiple MVS address spaces
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:06:00 GMT

 
     We are attempting to bring up two TCPIP address spaces on an
MVS/ESA system.  Having lotsa problems.  Could some kind soul
please send me a copy of his/hers TCPIP.data file and/or some
suggestions on how to do this.
 
thanks
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From:         A9000005@TSCC.MACARTHUR.UWS.EDU.AU
Subject:      RE: LPSERVE PROFILE EXEC

Thanks all!

---
  Brian Watson
  Programmer, Computing Centre
  University of Western Sydney, Macarthur
  Internet: b.watson@uws.EDU.AU
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From:         Princeton BITNET FTP Server <BITFTP4@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      BITFTP REPLY

21:05:00 > > Since soon a major X-terminal wave will hit us I am looking
21:05:00 > > oncemore for ways to reduce the CPU consumption of TCP/IP.
21:05:00 > Reduce the number of instructions in TCP/IP.  It s way too high...
21:05:00 > > Is there a way to use the vector processors on the mainframe for
21:05:00 > > the TCP/IP protocol stack and/or the X-Window system?
21:05:00 > It might be possible to compute the TCP checksum using the vector
21:05:00 > hardware for large packets and thereby save some CPU time.
21:05:00 > Unfortunately  since TCP doesn t spend all that much time of the
21:05:00 > CPU it uses computing the checksum that wouldn t save all that
21:05:00 > much CPU.
21:05:00 > > I guess this is a vital question for IBM.  Up to now more than
21:05:00 > > 90% of our CPU has gone into batch. If this batch load would be
21:05:00 > > severely diminished by 200+ (concurrent) X-terminals running
21:05:00 > > X-Window based graphic applications nobody might listen anymore
21:05:00 > > to pro-mainframe arguments in a scientific environment.
21:05:00 > Yup.
21:05:00 >  You re selling me the fastest general available computer on the
21:05:00 >  planet and it connects to my network via this straw? ...
You did not supply enough information for me to attempt
to make an ftp connection.

The recommended syntax is:

FTP hostname
USER username password          e.g., USER anonymous guest
<other FTP subcommands>

The hostname may also be specified in an "OPEN" command
immediately following the "FTP" command.

The next command must be a "USER" command.  Except in the
case of anonymous logins, you must also specify a password,
either in the "USER" command or in a "PASS" command
immediately following the "USER" command.

For further help, mail a "HELP" command to "BITFTP@PUCC".
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