From: mtachiba@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Masahiko Tachibana)
Subject: Re: How to select News Groups
Followup-To: fj.misc
Summary: 100% agreed to Masa's opinion
Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:30:49 GMT

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This is Tachibana at RIKEN who is for the "gaikokujin" NG.

In article <3pi.bbfk3@lab.ntt.jp> 
kitagawa@will.ntt.jp (Masahiro Kitagawa) writes:
>Sorry, I cannot write English version now. But I will do it soon.

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  &>  Which is more important; (1) classification of the subjects are
  &>  well-orderd  (2) benefits of both posters and readers are realized.

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  &>  I think (2) is important.  (1) is only an effective means for (2).
  &>  If you stick to (1) and get (2) down, that's mistake.

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  &>  Another important point is to benefit "does't-want-to-reader's".
  &>  There might be someone in fj.misc intersted only in subject "misc"
  &>  and annoyed by posts other than "misc".  (It sounds curious for
  &>  "misc", but you will understand if you put any subject into "misc")

>$B$@$+$i!"(Bfj.life.foreigner $B$rAa$/:n$C$F!"$=$A$i$K0\$j$^$7$g$&!#(B
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  &>  Then, why don't we make fj.life.foreigner and go there.
  &>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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  &>  Yet another point.  There should be some readers who want
  &>  to read certain subject, but posting only to fj.misc makes
  &>  them left behind.   I think Mr. Tanaka is worrying this
  &>  and I think so too.

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>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  &>  Then, why don't we cross-post to the news-group according
  &>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  &>  to the subject.
  &>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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>--
>MaSa					*--- **** ***-- *--* *-* *-*
>Masahiro Kitagawa			$BKL@n(B $B>!9@(B	NTT$B4pAC8&5f=j(B
>NTT Basic Research Labs.		kitagawa@will.NTT.JP

(lines with & ahead translated by mtachiba)

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    I was so moved to this pretty realistic and constructive opinion that
I extracted and translated before permission from the author.
    Excuse me for my meddle-in (correct? I mean "osekkai").

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    I cross-post to both fj.news.group and fj.misc according to MaSa's
opinion, and I set follow-up to fj.misc where MaSa have posted
his article.
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