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From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: What is a "jake brake"?
Keywords: brake
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:46:41 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <1992Aug20.164527.24423@gtephx.UUCP>, romanenkod@gtephx.UUCP (Dan Romanenko) writes:
|> While traveling through Fredonia, Arizona earlier this month, I
|> saw a sign stating "NO JAKE BRAKES ALLOWED IN TOWN". None of
|> us in the vehicle could guess, so... what is a "jake brake"?
|> 
|>                                       -Dan

A "jake brake" is an engine braking system built by the Jacobs Brake Co, and
used on some diesel engines as a means of relieving the wheel brakes of some
of their work.  Basically, it works on the valve train of the engine, allowing
the engine to act as a brake.  When used, they can be quite loud, which is
why they are regulated in some municipalities.

This gets back to the discussion earlier this summer about engine braking in diesel
engines and shows that diesels, indeed, are poor brakes on their own.  For
engine braking, diesels use either a jake brake, or some other valving done in
the exhaust circuit of the engine.  Without these systems all braking must be
done by the brakes on the wheels, which can overheat quickly in loaded situations.

-- 
Alan Hepburn           "An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
National Semiconductor       what you have just found out."
Santa Clara, Ca              
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Will Rogers
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: hale@btree.uucp (Bob Hale)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:52:04 GMT
Organization: Brooktree Corporation
Subject: Re: Consequences of getting a ticket
Summary: 
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In article <25437@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov writes:
>Speaking of which: you guys in the Normal 47, take note of the increase
>in FINES here in paradise.  You've heard of "use a gun, go to jail"?
>We're heading for "use a gas pedal, go to bankruptcy court" -- another
>artifact of our state and local budget crises.  Enforcement doesn't
>strike me as any more aggressive than before, but if you're one of the
>lucky few who get caught, life can easily become a parade of C-notes
>out of your wallet and into various official coffers.  Take it easy
>or stay on the lookout -- preferably both!

To illustrate just how bad it is in California now, someone recently
received a traffic ticket for running a stop sign while riding a
bicycle.  The fine is $298.  That's not a typo; it's almost $300!

Bob Hale                                      ...!ucsd!btree!hale
...!btree!hale@ucsd.edu                       ...!ucsd!btree!hale@uunet.uu.net
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:10:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <68aJ02Hb1eoT01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> msl30@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash) writes:
>>me that people ought to drive in the right lane unless the car in front
>>of them is going slower and they need to pass.  if everyone did this on
>>two lane freeways, I think things would move much more efficiently.
>>
>>In my view you would pass in the left lane but cruise in the right lane.
>
>When I used to drive from Ohio to New Jersey I found that the left lane was
>usually the smoothest and in the best condition.  I do drive fast so I wasn't
>holding anyone up but if a faster car did approach me, I would move into
>the slow lane for them to pass then return back to the left.
>
>I know that I should stay in the slow lane but I usually travelled at night
>and was considerate of others.

This is more than acceptable to me. My "Golden Rule of the Road" is
simple: "I'll stay out of your way; you should stay out of mine." I
always hold up my end of the bargain, whenever humanly possible. If only
other drivers were more like you... :-/
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: ashaw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (andrew.shaw)
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:05:18 GMT

From article <Bt9CHH.I4n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman):
> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
> 
>>"Only a fool breaks the TWO second rule".  It rhymes, it fits it's easily
>>rememberable.  
> 
> Actually, it's only a 2-second rule up to maybe 45MPH, after which you're
> better off with a FOUR second following distance. 

I thought the advantage to the 2-second (as opposed to the older
n-car-lengths) rule was that it was speed-invariant.  Thus 2 seconds
at 30mph gives you 88 feet to stop in, while 2 seconds at 60mph gives
you 176 feet.  4 seconds at 60mph gives you 352 feet.  You should
be able to get from 60 to 0 in much less than 100 yards.  Of course
here in NJ you see rush-hour traffic at 70 applying the 30-foot rule.
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Car for a family of 4 (Volvo or Explorer?)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:21:52 GMT

My family has outgrown my 1987 Nissan Sentra 2-door automatic.  It's still in
great condition, and has given me very little trouble, but now it's time to 
find something with more room.  I hate shopping for cars, or even thinking
about cars, so it is crucial that the car that I buy be as trouble-free as
possible.  I'm considering the Volvo DL and the Ford Explorer.  Please e-mail
to me any comments you might have about these two automobiles.  
Recommendations of other family cars are also welcome.  Thanks in advance.

Cindy Windham
windham@uniadv.uadv.uci.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: What is a "jake brake"?
Keywords: brake
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 02:36:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.164527.24423@gtephx.UUCP> romanenkod@gtephx.UUCP (Dan Romanenko) writes:
>While traveling through Fredonia, Arizona earlier this month, I
>saw a sign stating "NO JAKE BRAKES ALLOWED IN TOWN". None of
>us in the vehicle could guess, so... what is a "jake brake"?

you should ask this on rec.autos.tech.
a jake brake, as i recall, is a compression brake.  it's used on
diesel engines, which have very high compression ratios (like 20:1).
thus, the engine compression acts to slow the vehicle.
there was a big war on rec.autos.tech about how this worked.
(somebody argued that compressing air was like compressing
a spring... the energy would be returned on the downstroke of
the piston.  i don't remember what the net consensus was, but it
seemed to me that some of that energy would be lost as heat.)

-teddy
From: johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Stephen Johns)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:52:16 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <88643@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
>In article @rpi.edu, johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>|>In article <1992Aug17.164537.25359@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>|>>
>|>>I have wondered about acceleration and the law.  Could I possibly be

[Lots of stuff deleted]

In Texas it is called "Exhibition of Acceleration" and they will give you a
ticket.  I am not sure what the exact definition is, but spinning your tires
is included.
-- 
Stephen Johns, Research Analyst
Southwest Research Institute, SA, TX 78228 (512) 522-5751
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Aug18.141500.1@us.oracle.com> eoates@us.oracle.com writes:
>
>The right lane of most interstates of two lanes (or the right two lanes where
>there are more than two lanes) in California are usually bumpier because 
>that where tractor-trailers must drive.  They weigh a lot more than cars and
>do more road bed damage.
[...]
>What are the rules in other states?

Along I-94 in Wisconsin there are stretches where trucks must travel in
the LEFT lane. No doubt they rotate these regions periodically in order
to help even out wear on the road.
From: mark@nwra.com (Mark)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: What is a "jake brake"?
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:49:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwra.1992Aug20.224946.29271
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northwest Research Associates, Inc.

I've been puzzled for some time by the signs that say "Use of
compression brake illegal within XXX city limits." I even asked a
trucker and he didn't know. So what is a compression brake?

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From: lowry@watson.ibm.com (Andy Lowry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:20:17 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <1992Aug15.083844.17819@csus.edu> aalis@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Al Bundy) writes:

 > If this is the case, unless there is only one lane, I won't 
 > necessarily blame the tailgater(s).
 > There is nothing more annoying than someone who drives on 
 > the left lane without observing the traffic behind.  Even 
 > though he/she might go with the flow of the traffic, some
 > people just have/want to go faster, and that's what the
 > left lane for.
 > Most of the time I drive around the speed limit, and I try
 > not to use the left lane unless I have to go fast, but when
 > I do, there is ALWAYS SOMEONE who thinks that his speed is
 > the fastest in the freeway :( even though there are other
 > slower lanes that open.  In this situation, I have no choice
 > but tailgating for couple seconds hoping that he/she will
 > move (I won't tailgate if the next right lane is not open).

Wrong!  You have a choice.  Don't tailgate.  Accept the fact that
until this (admittedly rude / clueless / whatever) individual moves
out of the lane, you're just going to move a little more slowly than
you'd like.  Flash your lights if you'd like, but from a safe
following distance.  If people start tailgating you, open up a
somewhat larger following distance because you'll need it if an
emergency situation opens up.  Or just move into the right lane and
drive at a reasonable speed for that lane.

Think about it: you're driving home from work.  It normally takes you
20 minutes going 65 mph.  But now and then you run up against this
situation, where your only safe alternative is to drive at 55mph for
ten minutes.  What's the net effect?  1-1/2 minute!!!  Are you that
busy?  You're going to choose to drive recklessly, needlessly
endangering your life and the lives of your passengers and the people
in the cars around you, to save 1-1/2 minutes????

You always have a choice.  Admittedly, driving is a compromise any way
you look at it.  Your safest alternative with respect to automobiles
is to never step foot in one go anywhere near a road.  But it's
important to look at the trade-offs realistically.  If you've got a
very good reason for going 65mph (like you're rushing to a hospital),
you'll have to drive more recklessly in some situations than you
otherwise would.  But I expect that in your case your motivation has a
lot more to do with the annoyance of having somebody in your way than
anything else.  Not a good sort of trade-off, in my mind.
--
Andy Lowry, lowry@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7925
IBM Research, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY  10598
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: rll@frieda.mitre.org (Roberto L. Landrau)
Subject: Re: Consequences of getting a ticket
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:09:39 GMT

In article <Bt2zJz.8tK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
>... the only TV commercial that actually had me laughing out
>loud in recent memory. I think it might have been a Western Union commercial.
>There is a guy wearing a suit standing in a courtroom before a judge. She
>bangs her gavel and says "the fine is $10 for every MPH over the speed limit."
>Immediately the guy responds "but that's $300!!" to which the judge responds
>"Ah, I see you can ADD fast, too!"...

That must have been filmed in Massachusetts.  They have been charging
$10/mile for the last four years.

By the way the first 5 miles are free.  What a bargain!

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:41:38 GMT
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In article <1992Aug19.202640.26277@leland.Stanford.EDU>, tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.142006.1@us.oracle.com> eoates@us.oracle.com writes:
>>Can't cite the code sections, but in California, you can accelerate as fast as
>>you want to the limit provided your tires don't squeel.  If you smoke 'em up,
>>then it is exhibition of speed (racing...) or reckless driving depending upon
>>the opinion of the arresting officer.
> 
> what if you're deaf and can't hear the tires squeal?
> 
>>Interesting side note on full throttle acceleration: the drivers manual
>>for the
>>911 Turbo (1989, not sure of others) requires that you accelerate at full
>>throttle in first gear to 5000RPM once the car is warm EVERY TIME YOU
>>DRIVE IT. 
>>The reason: to clean out the wastegate.  Now, 5000RPM is 35MPH, but you get
>>there in about 1 second :) with a lot of noice when the turbo cuts in.
> 
> 0-35 mph in one second?  in your dreams.  try two.
> if you were talking about a bennetton F1 race car, i might believe you.
> btw, i like this owner's manual.
> -teddy

Didn't you notice the smiley?  Yeah, it won't go 0 - 35 in one second, but I'm
so happy while I'm flooring it and the backing off (or shifting...) at around
35, that I lose count :) :) :)

Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)
From: monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:33:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: proponen.1992Aug19.103342.4815
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Proponent

> I have wondered about acceleration and the law.  Could I possibly be
> breaking some inane law by accelerating up to, but not exceeding, the
> posted speed limit very rapidly?  For example, using the full 0 to 45
> potential of my car?  

"making an improper start"

From the Framingham, MA police blotter:

Fri 8/7/92 10:14 pm: JD, 22, of 40 PH Road was arrested after JD struck Officer  
Smith on PH Road with his truck and kept on going.  Smith, who was on foot  
detail, had signaled the truck to stop with his flashlight after JD allegedly  
pulled out of a parking spot squealing his tires.  JD stopped the truck, put it  
in reverse and hit Smith in the side.  He was stopped nearby by a cruiser and  
was charged with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon (motor vehicle),  
failure to stop for a police officer, operating to endanger, speeding,  
operating without headlights and making an improper start.

-- 
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From: resistor@edsi.plexus.COM (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Traffic Court Hearings
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:24:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Aug15.162436.25084
Distribution: usa
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

vaidya@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (hemant.vaidya) writes:

>The other driver is defending his ticket. Soon there is hearing. We have
>never been in a traffic court before. What is the scenario in the traffic
>court in such cases. My wife has to appear as witness in this hearing since
>the case is between the state and the other driver.

Well, traffic court varies so much from jurisdiction to jurisdiction
that it is impossible to describe.  Since she is not on the receiving
end of the ticket, all she has to do is go up there and tell the truth
to the best of her ability.

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From: dbinford@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Binford)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Am I over driving in overdrive?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:33:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:

          [discussion of ZR-1 deleted]
>Although I believe 5th is also an overdrive.  Oh what the F$%^!  Those
>of you who know what I'm trying to say, please say it for me.

You are correct.  The ratios for the Corvette 6-speed manual are:
    2.68, 1.80, 1.29, 1.00, 0.75, 0.50

Both fifth and sixth ratios are overdrives.
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From: mark@nwra.com (Mark)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Consequences of getting a ticket
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:47:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northwest Research Associates, Inc.

>I think that the cyclist _is_ required to carry a drivers license.

About 10 years ago a friend was ticketed on his bicycle for running a
red light. The cop took his driver's license # and wrote up the ticket.
Well, that is a moving violation and that ticket went on his driving
record for his insurance Co. to see...

His advice was to not show your license to the cop, or to say "yes,
officer, you may see my license to identify me, but you may not see my
driver's license #. Since I am not driving a motor vehicle, a driver's
license is not relevant." or something like that.

BTW, about the same time my wife got a jaywalking ticket in Seattle.
The cop asked to see her driver's license, which was from New York (we
had moved to Seattle a few months before). He said something about "You
may be able to do that in NEW YORK, but around here..." But I suppose
he would have written the ticket anyway if she refused to show him her
license.

-Mark
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: SEAT BELT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 03:11:47 GMT


My seat belt light is strange.

90% of the time..it goes off when I put my seat belt on...just 
like it should.

5% of the time...it'll come on and stay on all day <i.e. through many
engine starts>

and the last 5% of the time...it will go off once i shut the engine down
and re start it...

i check to see if any wires were loose etc...but it all looked fine..
doesn't really both me..the cars runs better then new...but it just
can be annoying when im in a bad mood.

also...FYI...when you pull on the door handles when the doors are locked
the light will come on until you release the lever <i think its the cars
way of saying 'some one is trying to get out'>...
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From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos.driving, tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
>In article <Bt9Boy.Hu2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott
>Coleman) writes:

>> Well, around here it's a) more like rush MINUTE, and b) my commute doesn't

>GO AHEAD -- RUB IT IN.

No joke, and you're guilty as well....

>Rush hour isn't like rush hour in San Jose either -- it's like rush
>day.  But then there's only 1.25 million here to rush.

In the DC area, there's somewhere between 5-8 million, *plus the north-south
traffic of I-95. On any night, when they close one lane of the freeway
(or 2, if they're really being pains-in-the-butt) you could have 5-20
mile backups at 11 or midnight. Rush hour on I-95 south of DC starts
somewhere around 4:30 - 5 AM, at least the earliest bumper to bumper
back-up I've seen on it was 20 miles long by 5 AM. I-66, the only other
freeway, isn't much better, nor is the beltway.

Ron

Potassium Benzoate included as a preserver.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
From: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON DC PARKING TICKET Limit before been booted or towed ?
Reply-To: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:51:26 GMT

I have an idea.  Why not try actually paying the fines.  It may save some time, hassle and $$$$ in the long run.  

Radical eh?
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:15:00 GMT
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In article <16p1fcINNohr@agate.berkeley.edu>, shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:

>...stuff deleted...
> Another observation:  the right lane appears to be more bumpy than
> the left lane.  anyone know why?
> 
> david shy
> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu

The right lane of most interstates of two lanes (or the right two lanes where
there are more than two lanes) in California are usually bumpier because 
that where tractor-trailers must drive.  They weigh a lot more than cars and do
more road bed damage.  Trucks can drive only in the rightmost two lanes
regardless of the number of lanes, and in the right lane only except to pass if
there are only two lanes in each direction.  What are the rules in other
states?

Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)