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From: kditto@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kimborly Ditto)
Subject: Re: BODYGUARD????????
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 02:39:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.151733.52120@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.
du (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA) writes:
>I recently had knee surgery on my right knee.  Normally when I sleep at 
ight,
>my 6 month old kitten sleeps next to me but not close enough that he tou
hes
>me.  Now I wake up in the middle of the night with pain in my knee and I
find
>him sprawled right across my knee, sleeping.  It looks like he's protect
ng
>it.  I think he knows that there's something wrong with it because it's
>wrapped up and I use crutches.  It just seems funny that he suddenly sle
ps
>there.
>
>Has anyone else experienced anything like this?  I'd be interested to fi
d
>out.
>
>Michelle
>and Pookie and Merlin


I had a cat (dearly departed :() a while back that did something like
this...
I had a really bad case of Mono (like there are good cases), and Big Kitty
refused to let me get up out of bed when it wasn't absolutely necessary. 
Sweetest thing I ever saw.  We were raised together - she died 3 months
later at the age of 19 - same as me.

--kim

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Subject: Re: Worm identification
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:19:36 GMT

What you described sounds like a perfect example of a tapeworm.  The "bumps"
that you saw on either side of the head-end of the worm are the little sucker-
thingys (yes, I am a vet student...but don't know the terms yet :-) are
what the worm uses to attach to the animal's intestine.  For whatever reason,
this one did not attach and thus you were greeted with an entire tapeworm!!
You brought up the fact that your cat eats mice...and that is another reason 
that tapeworm infestation is likely.  The mouse is a host for the tapeworm
and so your cat could have infested herself with them that way.  Your best 
bet would be that next time you see one of these worms, even if it isn't
still alive, put it in a jar with some vegetable oil and run it over to
your vet so he/she can look at it and tell you what it is.  Unfortunately,
because of the life cycle of the tapeworm, they are rarely diagnosed
through a fecal specimen check so if you suspect that your pet may have
worms but your vet says the stool was negative, let them know what you have 
seen.  If possible, bring in the worm or worm part for him/her to look at.


-- 

Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:11619 rec.pets.dogs:11569
From: hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Flea season part II
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:09:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
In-reply-to: tittle@ics.uci.edu's message of 28 Sep 92 15:31:21 GMT

In article <2AC72548.7797@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:

   Perhaps there was no answer because there is no answer.  Fleas are
   tough sob's...

   --CIndy

And, to make matters worse, fleas seem to be getting tougher.  In an
e-mail conversation, I had heard from a reputable source (Hi, Kay!)
that fleas in Iowa have demonstrated a resistance to pyrethrins.  I
had been using a pyrethrin-based shampoo on my pup, and was concerned
that I might be wasting my time, so I checked with my local vet's
office.  In this part of California, fleas are resistant to Carbaryl
(the vet tech pantomimed a flea thumbing its nose at her while she
shampooed a dog with it), but pyrethrins work best.  (I suspect that
the late introduction of pyrethrins here, thanks to bureaucratic
maneuvering by California's regulators, has delayed our fleas'
responses to it.)  The vet tech also indicated that Avon's
Skin-So-Soft does repel fleas, at least in this area.

Anyway, when mounting a campaign against fleas, one would probably do
well to first talk to LOCAL vet-techs or dog groomers and ask what
products are actually *working* against the local flea population.
The flea FAQ contains good general information on flea fighting, but
can't begin to keep track of the many ways that the flea population is
evolving in various parts of the country.

By the way, Cindy, I gave a copy of the flea FAQ to the vet tech, who
was utterly amazed at the wealth of information therein.  Thank you
for gathering and maintaining it!

Marsha Jo Hannah
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Kittens and water don't mix
Summary: wet kitties
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:41:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: rsg1.1992Sep30.164134.26564
Organization: Ha!


  My kittens seem to have a fascination with water.
  You may remember a few weeks ago when Hobbit (14 week polydactyl
calico) was perched on the rim of the toilet watching the water
swirl after flushing when she slipped and fell in.
  Well, last Sunday it was Tribble's (11 week female brown tabby) turn to
go for a swim in the toilet. I had just flushed the toilet and
hadn't yet closed the lid when Tribble came galloping up and went to
jump up onto the top of the tank via the seat lid. Of course since the
lid was up... wet kitty. I could almost hear her saying &^!^%&^$$^*!!.
  They both will jump into the tub after I've taken a shower and will
lick the water off the sides of the tub and off the walls. Hobbit will
also peek around the shower curtain and watch me shower.
  Hobbit has developed the annoying habit of standing on the rim of the
toilet while I'm peeing into it, so I have to aim carefully to avoid
her. I've been afraid I'll have a wet smelly kitty on my hands one of
these days.
  Anyway this morning I had to get up early to use the toilet (lights
were off) when I heard Hobbit jump off the bed and trot up behind me 
and the next thing I heard was SPLASH. I turned on the light to see a 
wet kitten sitting on my bed licking herself dry. So I had to grab
her and gave her a quick bath in the bathroom sink. This was at 5:30
AM. She squirmed a bit, but tolerated it. She did enjoy being wrapped
up in a warm towel so I could dry her off. After this I had to give
her a treat. While she was enjoying her treat, Tribble sauntered up
and stuck her nose towards treat city when Hobbit whapped her with a
paw. 
  Of course now I had a wet bathmat, bedroom rug, linens and towels
to clean. I had some Resolve to test out on the rug, everything else
I just heaved into the washer.
  One benefit to all of this ... I did get to work early this morning.

Aren't kitties fun?

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Subject: Re: cat sleeps in bad place...  help...
Organization: Me
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:08:41 GMT

In article <BvHBFK.F22.2@cs.cmu.edu> dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel) writes:
>
>How about draping some aluminum foil either over the opening
>of the box, or lightly inside the box on top of the stack
>of paper?  I've heard that cats tend to detest aluminum
>foil (the sound of it or something).
>

My cats both *love* aluminum foil.  Their favorite pastime has
always been to discover aluminum foil, chew it into a ball, and
force me to play fetch with them.  Artemis used always want to
do this just after I went to bed and turned out the light and
again first thing in the morning before I was quite ready to
wake up ;).

Diana
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat owner once more, a follow-up
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:20:31 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

janeg@aeolus.epps.kodak.com (Jane Gibbs) writes:
> Well, this post is a follow-up to let you all know that my home is again
>  filled with the sounds of furry, little feets as I'm now the proud owner
>  of two 3-year-old black/gray tabbys, male litter-mates, that I adopted
>  this past weekend from the Northeast Animal Shelter (Salem, Mass).

Yay!  Love good stories like this!  Now we need some tales of derring-do
by this new duo!!!

Kay
From: aaronm@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (aaron meyerowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat door for sliding door, not secured
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:32:30 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik) writes:

> In article 7@ece.orst.edu, ken@ece.orst.edu (KEN MCCRACKEN) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep27.065630.20434@sq.sq.com> dak@sq.sq.com (David A Keldsen
> >>Before I make a custom cat-door for her (that doesn't require glass
> >>cutting...I was thinking of a strip of plexiglass with a hinged bottom)...
> >>has anyone seen something suitable in the commercial arena?
> >
> I found one at a local hardware store (Home Depot in California).  I don't re
> the brand, but it has a thin aluminum frame, a plexiglass panel in the top, a
> pet door in the bottom.  I think it was around $75.00 though...
> 
> Ask around at local pet stores and hardware stores.

I got one of these at home depot in Florida. It works well and includes
a bit of hardware to secure the sliding door so it can't be opened.
I had to coax the cats to use it but they learned. We had "visitors"
a few times but my two placid (neutered) males seem to have developed
enough nerve to protect their domicile. The younger of them seems to
be working on a method to use the human doors (see my earlier SO FAR 
UNANSWERED post)

Aaron Meyerowitz (The cats & doors guy)
From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Missing Cat in Locked Apartment
Keywords: lost/stolen cat?
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:47:57 GMT
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

My cat is the incredibly-disappearing-kitten. He loves to snuggle down
in/under/behind things. He's the kind who sleeps under the covers no
matter how warm it is outside. I guess he feels more secure.
 
He often disappears. I've searched for him for hours with no luck, only
to have him wander out on his own later. I've found him in the clothes
hamper (with the lid still on); in the closets; under the bathtub (it's
the kind with feet); on shelves; in shoeboxes; etc etc.

Were your windows open? If somebody could open the screen, would they
still have to open the window? And if he was unfortunately stolen, 
would somebody go to the trouble to close the screen behind him?

By the time you see this you'll likely have found him. Good luck!

 - Lianne - 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kjenks@krakatoa.uucp (Kenneth C. Jenks [GM2] 483-4368)
Subject: Re: BODYGUARD????????
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:22:53 GMT

In article <20610@drutx.ATT.COM> bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham) writes:
>in article <1992Sep21.151733.52120@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA) says:
>
>> I recently had knee surgery on my right knee.  Normally when I sleep at night,
>> my 6 month old kitten sleeps next to me but not close enough that he touches
>> me.  Now I wake up in the middle of the night with pain in my knee and I find
>> him sprawled right across my knee, sleeping.  It looks like he's protecting
>> it.  I think he knows that there's something wrong with it because it's
>> wrapped up and I use crutches.  It just seems funny that he suddenly sleeps
>> there.
>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?  I'd be interested to find
>> out.
>
>Yes, I have had a very similar exerience.
>
>(story of Fletch & Dustin deleted)

>Any other storys?
>--
>Brian Millham     |Kitty      |Fletch |Dragon's Lair |Kick Man |New World
>AT&T Bell Labs    |Ferrah     |Buddy  |Space Ace     |Sinistar |High Speed
>Denver, Co.       |Dr. Pepper |       |              |         |
>bdm@druwa.att.com |(ferrets)  |(cats) |(laser disc)  |(video)  |(pinball)

Several years ago, I came down with my fall Bronchitis attack.  I was
just getting to the now I'm *really* sick part of bronchitis when the
cats wouldn't get up one morning for breakfast.  Now these two were
major chow hounds, so when Poly stayed on the headboard of the bed, &
Calculus stayed at my feet, I figured that I was really sick, even if I
felt o.k.  As long as I stayed supine (on my back), I was fine.  I stood
up & my temp spiked to 106 F.  I tend to believe the cats now if they 
tell me I'm sick.
Ken (whos account I'm using) said that they prolly see further into 
infra red than we do, and could "see" that I was sick.

Lisa Jenks on Kens account
Instant gratification takes too long

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: polly@iastate.edu (Paula Puffer)
Subject: Re: cat and toilet paper
Summary: Just a suggestion patrick
Keywords: ONe line replies
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:34:57 GMT

PAtrick please please please do not send one line replies to notes.  
it's wastes reader space and wastes a lot of time.   please try to combine 
several replies into one. 

thanks 
Polly@iastate.edu



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: Male cats (neutered)... Are they all lazy?
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:10:43 GMT

It's probably too soon to tell since it's less than a week since the
surgery, but neutering hasn't changed my former-boy Nerfball's
behavior much.  He's still a big brat!!  I've noticed that both before
and after being neutered, he acts like he wants to "mate" with my
4-year-old spayed female Slinky (he jumps on her from behind and grabs
her neck).  I'm not sure whether this is generic cat wrestling
behavior, or "practice" behavior, or what.

I *have* noticed a change in Slinky's behavior since Nerf came home
from the vet -- she definitely seems less intimidated by him.  Last
night was the first time *ever* that she's been willing to cuddle up
to me while Nerfy was also sitting on my lap!

-Sandra
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Nasty Tapeworms-
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:56:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute

In article <1526400002@igc.apc.org>, Tracie Diamond <tracie@igc.apc.org> writes:
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions about getting rid of tapeworms. The cats 
> I live with had it before and the vet took care of the nasty critters invading
> Andrew's and Butch's bodies. But now they are back. I know they come from 
> fleas and we are trying are hardest to get rid of them in the house. But
> they are outdoor cats. Is there any natural, inexpencive way to get rid of
> them???? Does anyone have a direction they could point me in for the info?
> 
> 
> 
> 


Droncit tablets, obtained at the vet and given in two doses two weeks apart 
whenever tapes make their appearance, cost about $1.50 apiece and are the 
remedy of choice for tapes.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: RE: help me name my kittens
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:54:21 GMT


OH, you definitely have my vote for Lysander and Demetrius, having
just taught _Midsummer_ to my drama students. As a matter of fact, I
wish I had thougt of it myself!
But any Shakespearean names are nice ---
Capulet and Montegue
Macbeth and Macduff
Prospero and Antonio


I also like the short,sweet, and stupid like:
tit and tat
tic and tac
knick and knack

Let us know what you finally decide!

Susan
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Taking a pet into Singapore.
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:25:34 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

Anyone know about the restrictions in bringing pets into Singapore?

Ted

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hagel@stsci.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:35:41 GMT

In addition to England, I believe that Ireland also has a quarentine 
period.  Hmmm -- wonder what effect the movement for European unity will 
have on this situation. 

					Crystal Hagel
From: gittel@nynexst.com (Kathleen Gittel)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Invisible fences...what are they?
Keywords: yes-works for cats
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:28:07 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology

All 4 of my cats are on the invisible fence system.  They make a
smaller collar for cats and tho' it is still largish, they've
adjusted(I remove the collar for 12 to 20 hours every
couple of days-- to allow the fur to sort of 
breathe.).  They trained themselves--cats loathe
pain and are real smart about avoiding it.  Each
one of mine spent several days under the bed after their first
shock .  After that they were very very careful.  
Yesterday I saw Gumbo cautiously approach one of the
borders and stop..wait awhile and stop...until finally she got
a bit of a shock, whereupon she ran back about 1 foot
and then sat and stared thoughtfully at the invisible border for 
awhile.

They have trees and 3 entrances to their home (one on each
on 3 sides of my house), but still, I'm very careful--if I
go out, I lock 'em up. They're never out if I`m away.
Lately I bring them in at night, because I spotted
a large coyote on the far horizon.

With care, it's a great system--I spend most of my time
outside; playing, reading, barbecuing, swimming in the pond,
and painting. 
Now, for the first time I can have my 4 best buddies with me.

Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jbrandt@NeoSoft.com (J Brandt)
Subject: Re: Purring as a sign of illness
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:33:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.153034.26905@sequent.com>, cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland) writes:
> 
> Along this thread...  Can anyone explain why a cat would just purr??
> You walk in the room, the cat purrs.  The cat walks in the room and
> purrs. The cat plops down next to you ont he couch and purrs.  Both my
> cats do all these things.  It seems as though they are always purring.
> They even wake us up at night all cuddled up with us and purring very
> loudly!
 
According to Desmond Morris, in _Catwatching_, cats purr at various times,
and not just when they are contented.  Cats in pain, in labor, or cats
that are dying also purr.  He says that purring is a signal that a cat is
friendly or open to friendship.  When kittens are nursing they purr
continuously, and it serves as a signal to the mother that everything is
ok.  When the mother cat is purring, it serves as a signal to the kittens
that she is open and cooperative.  He points out that domestic cats purr
with both outward and inward breath whereas larger cats (tigers and pumas)
can purr, but only when breathing out.
 
So, it sounds like your cats spend a lot of their time in "friendly" mode.
 
One of my cats is only friendly when she feels like it.  Most of the time
she doesn't like being picked up or petted.  But when she does sit in my
lap, she is insistent about it, and she purrs very loudly.
-- 
Jaclyn Brandt
jbrandt@NeoSoft.com
--
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Purring as a sign of illness
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:04:09 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep28.195404.23799@pixel.kodak.com> 
	young@serum.kodak.com writes:
>	The fact that cats purr when sick or injured does seem strange until
>	you apply the knowledge that purring is NOT a sign of contentment,
>	but rather a sign of submission.  A cat's purr says, "I'm non-
>	threatening right now; I accept the fact that you're my superior,
>	and I'll permit you to do almost anything without fear of reprisal."
>

Hmm, I don't know about that.  My young cat will be on my lap purring while
being petted, then suddenly turn around and chomp my hand - purring still!
Not exactly what I would call submissive behavior!

Dave
-- 
Disclaimer: These opinions are not those of Informix Software, Inc.
**************************************************************************
The heart and the mind on a parallel course, never the two shall meet.
						-E. Saliers
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: fun cat books
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:25:08 GMT

In article <1832@shaman.wv.tek.com> peggys@orca.wv.tek.com writes:
>I just realized that with all the talk about fun cat books there has been no
>mention about any of James Herriot's books, the All Creatures Great & Small
>series.  The reason I mention this now is because I noticed he has a new book
>out.  Now, it has been many years since I've read any of his books and I 
>honestly can't remember if there were any good cat stories, but anyone who
>enjoys reading interesting stories about any kind of animal, especially 
>since they are true, would enjoy these.  For those of you who aren't familiar
>with him, he is a vet in England, I believe.  As I recall there is alot of 
>humor in his stories.  Anybody else care to comment?  How long has it been 
>since All Creatures Great & Small came out?  Am I aging myself here or what? 
>
Great books, Peggy!  All of them...like you, I don't specifically
recall cat stories, though he *did* do a book of dog stories, but
all of the books are done with humor.

I won't comment on the dating yourself remark on grounds of
self dating:-)

Debbie M.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland)
Subject: Re: Purring as a sign of illness
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:30:34 GMT


Along this thread...  Can anyone explain why a cat would just purr??
You walk in the room, the cat purrs.  The cat walks in the room and
purrs. The cat plops down next to you ont he couch and purrs.  Both my
cats do all these things.  It seems as though they are always purring.
They even wake us up at night all cuddled up with us and purring very
loudly!

cyndie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Kittens and water don't mix
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 12:49:22 GMT

Another tale of cat and bathtub.

I have a double shower curtain - an outer one that 
hangs outside the tub, and one of those opaque "clear"
inner liners.  

My 1.5 year old likes to get between the tub and the
inner liner when I get into the shower.  She sits 
there until she starts getting wet - then she gets
up on the edge of the tub and stays there.

All I can guess is that the water and soap foam 
hitting the liner make an interesting pattern...

Diana
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Captain Midnight Update
From: <FHSKRS@BYUVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 08:07:31 MDT
Organization: Brigham Young University

Today is the one-month anniversary of Captain Midnight's encounter with a
car so I thought I'd post an update.  She still is not using her right
front paw, but she is getting around really well.  A couple of weeks after
the accident, our vet decided to try to splint the leg.  After an initial
adjustment period, she seemed to be doing better (at least she wasn't
bounding about lopsided--the splint gave her enough support).  But after
several days, she started dragging the splinted leg and it would sort
of collapse under her (at the shoulder).  So I removed it and now she's
back to her lopsided gait.  There doesn't seem to be any improvement in
the paw at all--no feeling, no mobility.  However, this hasn't slowed her
down!  She constantly terrorizes my number 1 and number 2 cats (Minou and
Kit-Kat) by stalking them, leaping at them, and chasing them.  She can
leap very well, reaching the window sill (:-) and the kitchen counter
(:-( easily.

Thanks again to all who offered sympathy and consolation.  As long as
Captain Midnight is mobile and not damaging herself, I'm going to hold
out on making any decisions on amputation.  I'll post another update
in another month or so.
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