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From: st1da@rosie.uh.edu (Jeff Phillips)
Subject: Re: Size of the orb??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:50:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.143608.2467@ncsu.edu>, jhpace@eos.ncsu.edu (Jerrold H. Pace) writes...
>> 
>As I recall, the Orb was described at one time as big as "a child's heart".  
>This would be about four to five inches across, and I get the impression that
		     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is the size of the average adult's heart.  A child's heart would be about
two inches or maybe less (depending on the size and age of the child.  If a
"child" means 4 or 5 years old, it would be 1.5 to 2 inches.)

>the Orb is slightly eliptical.  So Garion could place it flat on his palm, 
>and have it reaching from the base of his hand to about the tip of his fingers,
>with it not reaching either side of his palm.  So the Orb would be seen if 
>held up, but not if it was in a pouch or pocket.  While on the sword, it 
>would fit nicely as an extension of the handle, as the cover art suggests.
>As for being "grand", I consider any gem that can glow with an inner light,
>and make an audible crystaline sound, to be grand indeed....
> 
>--
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jerrold H. Pace         | Jayce Paladin, The Paladin Knight
>jhpace@eos.ncsu.edu     | 160 Owen Hall, Box 4451, NCSU, Raleigh  27607
>Junior in Elec.Engin.   | Opinion:  only mine own, and maybe my twin's.......
> 
>\`pal-ed-en\    1:  a champion of a medieval prince
>                2:  an outstanding protagonist of a cause
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Jeff Phillips
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: alt.fan.fantasy.writers
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:23:23 -0600
Summary: Pllleaase
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov7.202544.17987@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:

> Does someone more computer-literate
> than me--or who has more time--want to create a newsgroup for fantasy-novel
> addicts.




        If anyone does start a general newsgroup for fantasy-novel addicts 
pppplllleeaasssee let me know.  I unfortunately don't know how to start one.  I
have soooooo many authors and series that I would love to discuss such as the
wizard series by Simon Hawke.

        
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: detchay@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (TONY CHAY)
Subject: Re: Domes of Fire out in Michigan!!!
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:46:20 GMT


>The title says it all. :)) Just picked up my copy at B.Daltons

>*very happy*

>-chris barrera
>barrera@mtu.edu

		IS THIS ANOTHER EDDINGS BOOK!

	WHATS IT ABOUT, IS IT AVAILABLE IN OZ....
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: shemminga@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stuart Hemming)
Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ file for th
Reply-To: shemminga@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:14:00 +0000


In <1992Nov6.145428.21577@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mark nelson asks:
> Repeating the header: is there a faq file?
> If so where is it?
> 
> Send email to amt5man@sun.leeds.ac.uk

DOn't just send email, post the answer here

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: discussion?
Followup-To: alt.fan.tom-robbins
Organization: Chicago IL
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:26:54 GMT

In article <k2wch0m@Unify.Com>, bsb@Unify.com (Beverly Sobelman) wrote:
> 
> In article <s0522457.6.0@let.rug.nl>, s0522457@let.rug.nl (L.E. Plat) writes:
> > 
> > What's more, although all his novels are fun to read, in _Jitterbug_
> > Perfume_  Tom Robbins just performs verbal magick; synonyms, metaphors, 
> > similes: all are far-fetched, unheard of or stretched into the bizarre, 
> > but always also very funny. We're lucky the Dutch translation is 
> > exceptionally good. 
> 
> Y'know, I was wondering about that the other day - "that" being how
> TR's books would translate into other languages, given that his use of
> wording and phrasing is so intrinsic to his work.   I just can't imagine
> that a translator could really capture the same style!  I'd be really
> interested to see an excerpt in another language, a literal translation
> of that excerpt, and the same piece of the English version...anybody
> care to oblige?

For those of y'all who enjoy Robbins' mastery of the language, check
out Navokov's 'Lolita'. Interesting also, because Nabokov was a Russian,
and didn't begin writing in English until he was 30. Yet he manipulates
the language like few native writers can.

Also, of course, all Robbins fans should read 'Gravity's Rainbow' by
Thomas Pynchon.

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

                If mercy's in business I wish it for you-        
             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: sbuckley@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Buckley)
Subject: Re: Identity of Wing Fu Fing
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:23:23 GMT

hawleylm@apple.com (Lorin Hawley) writes:

>This is to follow up a thread from a while back (I've been out of contact
>with this group for a while - sorry).

>There were some people who thought TR was the author of a book called
>"Fuck, Yes!". I posted my reasons for thinking our friend Tom was NOT
>the author due to stylistic differences...

>Well, I've finally dug up a review - the only printed review I could
>find - of said book. This review was published in Small Press Book Review -
>I can dig up the full citation if anyone's interested. Anyway, the book is
>reviewed by Henry Berry, and the last sentence of the review reads:

>"The identity of the obviously fictitious author Rev. Fing has not been
>able to be kept secret - it is the book's publisher, one Nick Palmer".


>There you go.

>- Lorin Hawley

  well. interesting.  but i'm still being too closed-minded to accept this.
i'll still go with tr.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: s0522457@let.rug.nl (L.E. Plat)
Subject: Re: discussion?
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:44:19 GMT

In article <petersen-061192183411@aragorn7.acns.nwu.edu> petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen) writes:
>In article <k2wch0m@Unify.Com>, bsb@Unify.com (Beverly Sobelman) wrote:
>> In article <s0522457.6.0@let.rug.nl>, I wrote>> > 
>> > [stuff deleted...] We're lucky the Dutch translation is 
>> > exceptionally good. 
>> 
>> Y'know, I was wondering about that the other day - "that" being how
>> TR's books would translate into other languages, given that his use of
>> wording and phrasing is so intrinsic to his work.   I just can't imagine
>> that a translator could really capture the same style!  I'd be really
>> interested to see an excerpt in another language, a literal translation
>> of that excerpt, and the same piece of the English version...anybody
>> care to oblige?
>
>For those of y'all who enjoy Robbins' mastery of the language, check
>out Navokov's 'Lolita'. Interesting also, because Nabokov was a Russian,
>and didn't begin writing in English until he was 30. Yet he manipulates
>the language like few native writers can.
>

There are a number of writers who performed that feat (Jerzy Kosinski, say)
and I think the fact that they had to learn English at a later age makes 
them somehow more sensitive to the structure of the language. 

As for the translation, I'm happy to oblige. I'll go and try to 
translate back part of _Jitterbug_Perfume_ into English. May take some 
time, though. 

Bert Plat
note: mail to bplat@rugrcx.rug.nl

Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: martinf@microsoft.com (Martin Fernandez)
Subject: Even CG G T BLUES MOVIE
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:09:56 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

I had the good fortune to spend some time at
Gus Van Sants home just after the release of 
My Own Private Idaho. His home is also his
post production studio, office and editing
studio. At that time, he was just begining to
put together his wish list of actors for his
next project, Even Cowgirls Get the Blues.
Madonna, Uma, and Sandra Bernhardt were just
some of the names I recall seeing posted on
the wall, as were photos of all these gals.

I wish I could remember all the little details
I saw in the office and studio about this
film, but it was sometime ago. I believe Gus
has almost completed shooting and I believe
Tom has had a fair amount of input. It will
be quite a treat if this film works and a
special hit for all of Tom's Fans. 

Tom runs around Seattle all the time and can
be spoted most times of the year. He has a home
in a little town just north of here as well as a
condo in downtown Seattle. I have had plenty of 
opportunities to stop him and chat but have 
always believed in giving someone their due
privacy. If one did want to write him, I'm certain,
you would only have to address it to the city of
La Conner and the postal service there would have no
difficulty in delivering it to his P.O.Box.
From: pwarburt@ibmpcug.co.uk (P Warburton)
Subject: Re: "Even Cowgirls. . ." Movie
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:10:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.151946.22029@ils.nwu.edu>, Mindy Wallis 
(wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu) writes:

>I heard on CNN yesterday that they are finally making "Even Cowgirls Get
>the Blues" into a film starring Uma Thurman as Sissy.  Anyone else know any
>more about this?


There was an interview with Uma Thurman in the October 1992 edition of 
_Interview_ magazine in which the _Cowgirls_ movie was mentioned in a couple 
of places. Here are the relevant extracts:

(Reproduced without permission)

---

[From the introduction]

A few days before she set off to begin filming her role as Sissy Hankshaw in 
Gus Van Sant's film of _Even Cowgirls Get the Blues_, Thurman arrived at 
_Interview_, where she was instantly the tallest person in the office. In 
person, she is direct and serious, assertive but not defensive, a woman who 
looks you in the eye and articulates her thoughts with no little heat, but 
who isn't so keen to know the answers to every question about her life until 
she's ready. 

[From the interview]

Graham Fuller: Is the opportunity to work with Gus Van Sant the reason you 
decided to do _Even Cowgirls Get the Blues_?

Uma Thurman: It's funny, because Gus and I happened to have the same agent. 
We both happened to have met with him around the same few days, and he'd 
asked us each, "What do you want to do next?" Or "If you could do anything, 
what would you like to do?" Gus had mentioned _Even Cowgirls Get the Blues_. 
Then I came in, and I said the same thing. So he introduced me to Gus, and 
Gus and I went and sat on the beach at Malibu and talked about making the 
film. And now, finally, we're going to do it.

--- end of quotation ---

-- 
---
Peter Warburton                |  The light at the end of the tunnel has
Email: pwarburt@ibmpcug.co.uk  |  been turned off as an economy measure.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Mindy Wallis)
Subject: "Even Cowgirls. . ." Movie
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:19:46 GMT

I heard on CNN yesterday that they are finally making "Even Cowgirls Get
the Blues" into a film starring Uma Thurman as Sissy.  Anyone else know any
more about this?

-------
Mindy
wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
Institute for the Learning Sciences
Northwestern University


Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Identity of Wing Fu Fing
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:55:10 GMT


and just because he says so it must be true too.. ehhh???

I'd be more interst to know how this person came up with their
conclusion. (Personally I thought the book was okay and couild
eitehr way on the author controversy)
From: hawleylm@apple.com (Lorin Hawley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
Subject: Re: Identity of Wing Fu Fing
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:19:30 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.tom-robbins
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Nov6.035510.12368@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff) wrote:
> 
> 
> and just because he says so it must be true too.. ehhh???
> 
> I'd be more interst to know how this person came up with their
> conclusion. (Personally I thought the book was okay and couild
> eitehr way on the author controversy)

Well, the review was by Henry Berry, the editor of Small Press Book Review.
I would tend to give more credence to a statement by the editor of a
respected journal than, say, an article in the local paper. But perhaps
someone will clear all this up by writing to our Dr. Robbins directly.

 - Lorin Hawley
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
From: Cannam@borodin.sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
Subject: A Thought
Organization: Konrad Zuse Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:14:49 GMT



My thesis for the day:  Tom Robbins is rather like John Fowles,
only less studied and a bit more awake.

Mind you, to be more studied than Fowles could be difficult.


As for ``Tom Robbins' best written book,'' I think Cowgirls works
better as a slice of his brain than a novel, which might be an
advantage.

					 Chris
					[cannam@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de]
From: hawleylm@apple.com (Lorin Hawley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
Subject: Re: "Even Cowgirls. . ." Movie
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:24:06 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.tom-robbins,connect.audit
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <BxGqM6.FLv@ibmpcug.co.uk>, pwarburt@ibmpcug.co.uk (P Warburton)
wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov6.151946.22029@ils.nwu.edu>, Mindy Wallis 
> (wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu) writes:
> 
> >I heard on CNN yesterday that they are finally making "Even Cowgirls Get
> >the Blues" into a film starring Uma Thurman as Sissy.  Anyone else know any
> >more about this?
> 
> 
> There was an interview with Uma Thurman in the October 1992 edition of 
> _Interview_ magazine in which the _Cowgirls_ movie was mentioned in a couple 
> of places. Here are the relevant extracts:

(deletions a'plenty)

Tom Robbins was interviewed back in the 1970's when there was another film
version of Cowgirls planned, and he had some amusing comments ... amounting
to "when Hollywood says they're going to do something like this, I'll
believe it when I'm invited to the opening night show".

- Lorin Hawley
From: bsb@Unify.com (Beverly Sobelman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-robbins
Subject: Re: discussion?
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:22:20 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

In article <s0522457.6.0@let.rug.nl>, s0522457@let.rug.nl (L.E. Plat) writes:
> 
> What's more, although all his novels are fun to read, in _Jitterbug_
> Perfume_  Tom Robbins just performs verbal magick; synonyms, metaphors, 
> similes: all are far-fetched, unheard of or stretched into the bizarre, 
> but always also very funny. We're lucky the Dutch translation is 
> exceptionally good. 

Y'know, I was wondering about that the other day - "that" being how
TR's books would translate into other languages, given that his use of
wording and phrasing is so intrinsic to his work.   I just can't imagine
that a translator could really capture the same style!  I'd be really
interested to see an excerpt in another language, a literal translation
of that excerpt, and the same piece of the English version...anybody
care to oblige?

-bev

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: hymowitz@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Subject: Re: Asprin?
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:38:16 GMT

and lo, there was much rejoicing among the people, as
  endora@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kenneth McCamish) writes:
>
> aspirin 
> aspirin
> aspirin
> aspirin aspirin
> aspirin

will you people please either learn how to spell or learn how to read?

thanx.

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: ramblings about the Myth books
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:35:49 GMT

Does Skeeve actually have a future with Bunny?  Or will Mr. Asprin keep
Skeeve forever chaste?  I was always kinda upset that Luanna was written
out.  It's been several books since her exit, and there have been no signs
that Skeeve's even thinking about her.

Is Skeeve going to learn any more magik?  I thought the plot was in a bit
of a rut until this Queen Hemlock thing came up.  I hope things stay this
active.

I don't like the MYTH Inc. books nearly as much as the Myth books.

-- 
Il Hwan Oh                              | "You live and learn.
Computer Facilities Manager             |   At any rate, you live."
University of Washington, Tacoma        |            -- Douglas Adams
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: cclark@trentu.ca (J. Chris Clark)
Subject: Unsolicited (sort-of) FAQ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:02:00 GMT

For those of you who don't take the time to read, the group is:
alt.fa.asprin    
NOTE:  This is not a typo.  It is NOT alt.fan.aspIrin

Question #1:
If it isn't about Tylenol, Bayer and those other trademarked products, then
what is the group about?

This newsgroup is for fans of the author Robert Asprin.

Question #2:
Who?  What's he write?

Mr. Asprin writes books in the Fantasy/Science Fiction genre.  His books are
usually noted for their slightly whimsical, comic style.

Question #3:
So, like, what are some of the specific books?

His most famous series is probably the Myth-adventures books which follow the
bungling Skeeve.  The later books also focus on the other charactrers in more
detail.  Titles include (and these should be in order since I'm copying them
from the front cover of one of his other books!):
Another Fine Myth
Myth Conceptions
Hit or Myth
Myth-ing Persons
Little Myth Marker
M.Y.T.H. Inc. Link 
Myth-nomers and Im-Pervections
Myth Directions
M.Y.T.H. Inc. in Action

Lately he has started another series which right now only has two books:
Phule's Company
Phule's Paradise

There are many more books, including a whole bunch that he has co-authored or
edited.  I'm too lazy to write about them all.  Go visit your library!  :)

Question #4:
Can we talk about aspirin (the medication) anyways?

NO!  Doing so is subject to great flaming.  :)

--------------------
Anyone is free to add to this or pick it up and make it a real FAQ.
(FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions, in case any net-newbies are reading this.)

Cheers,
Chris C.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: endora@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kenneth McCamish)
Subject: Re: Unsolicited (sort-of) FAQ
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:30:02 GMT



I humbly retract my post (can he DO that??) regarding the drug "aspirin."
I thank you for your patience and appreciate that I didn't receive any personal
E-mail flames for my posting.  Yes, I had a feeling there was something going
on here other than a newsgroup about OTC pain relief, but when I saw the one
posting asking about different brands of aspirin, I couldn't resist.  The
pharmacy student in me came to the forefront and I did a "tongue-in-keyboard"
posting to your newsgroup.  As a result, one of you was kind enough to calmly
exlpain who this Asprin guy is, and I thank you.  No more headaches will I
give you.  (And I'll certainly keep my eye out at the library for some of
Mr. Asprin's work.)  :-)

      *           -The very idea that my opinions might resemble those of
     ***           Purdue University frightens me.  Please don't even
    *****          think about it.

endora@sage.cc.purdue.edu -the patron witch of mothers-in-law

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: kstrong@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Captain Clueless)
Subject: Re: Asprin?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:26:14 GMT

mam1335@summa.tamu.edu (MONTGOMERY, MARK ANDREW) writes:

>In article <Bx9F1z.4x4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, endora@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kenneth McCamish) writes...
<medication stuff deleted...>
>		I, for one, am getting very annoyed about these kinds of 
>  	posts.  If you people don't have the courtesy to read the earlier 
>	posts before posting on your own, we will just have to overflow 
>	your mail spool by sending you multiple copies of the purity test, 
>	you IDIOT!

I don't think that this sort of griping is warranted.  First off,
there are numerous alt. groups on the net that are doing that sort of
thing.  Secondly, if the medicine stuff gets real posts from more
people than Robert Asprin posts, then the topic should legitimately go
to the drug.  We'll just have to make and alt.fan.robert.asprin group.
Lastly, I know that my system kills the news after about a week.  If
other people have the same problem, then it's not fair to expect them
to read the previous posts.

Basically, griping is fine.  Just don't threaten.  This is, after all,
a public news net.  I would think that a weekly posting of the FAQ (as
little as it is) will eliminate much of the medicine posts.

Lets keep a civil head.  No matter what we'd *REALLY* like to do.  ;-)


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