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From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MST3K ratings?
Keywords: Hi-keeba!
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:16:36 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

v067rza5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Suzan Boyadjian) writes:

:)BTW  if any MSTie watched "A Fistfull of Datas" on TNG:
:)When Data had his pale self plugged into the computer and Geordi says
:)'Why don't you try hooking up to some of the higher functions?',
:)did you expect Data to start saying "Richard Baseheart!!" ;)

I knew there was something bugging me in the back of the head when
Geordi said that, but I couldn't put my finger on it at the.  I will be
watching the show again this week with some friends who missed it last
weekend, but none of them are hard core (enough) Misties to get it.
Perhaps my wife will...

Thanks for solving an unanswered question.
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From: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Subject: Re: QL: End of Trilogy, Part 1
Originator: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Keywords: QL Trilogy part 1
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:53:06 GMT


In article <Bxxsyz.9II@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jbiag@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Drake Biag) writes:
|> Just a quick question... I wasn't paying much attention to the episode,
|> which is very unlike me.  But anyway, What was the name of the person who
|> was in bed with Abigail after the leap out at the end of Part one of the
|> Trilogy?  Was it Will?  Did we ever see a "Will" in the episode?  What was
|> the name of the stutterer?  Thanks for the info.
|> 
|> 
	Sam leaped into Will, who is the doctor's stuttering son.
From: ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: NORELCO SANTA IS BACK!
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:32:53 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

Full page ad in Nov. 21st TV GUIDE:
=============================================================

YES VIRGINIA,THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.
               AGAIN.

We got cards.  We got letters. We got phone calls.
Everybody wanted Santa back. So, for the first time in
five years, a brand-new Mr. Claus will glide through
the snow once again on Norelco's famous floating
heads.  Watch for him starting on Thanksgiving Day
Parades on NBC and CBS.  Happy Holidays.

NORELCO
1992

==============================================================



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From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: QL
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:40:40 GMT

I don't want to block out QL, but as for other subjects I don't care to
read about...  Will placing just, for instance, "QL" in your kill file
kill files with "QL: Etc.?"  I always thought killing a subject (at
least in rn, I'm using nn) killed that _exact_ subject.  I'm not sure
if you can place wildcards in or not...

Mike
--
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From: nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin)
Subject: Re: What series were not produced in LA?
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:04:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.092310.60989@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne) writes:
>In article <Bxw8F4.4Kz@tegra.com>, nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin) writes:
>> In article <BxvrGB.I2z@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>> And here's a weird one for you:
>> 
>> Filmed in Vancouver but set in Los Angeles:
>>     "Macgyver" (seasons 3-6)
> 
>Actually, they only said they were in LA for the first two seasons.  Then
>MacGyver and Pete quit the DXS and went to work for the Phoenix Foundation,
>Mac moved to the houseboat, etc.  It was certainly a West Coast city,
>but after the move they never said where it was.  IMHO, it was winter
>too often to be LA! I'd vote for Seattle.
>

Well, the references are few and far between, but there are several episodes
that take place while the filming was in Vancouver where they make it 
clear that it's supposed to be Los Angeles.  Often the setting is irrelevant,
and often they don't state it specifically, but you will notice that they
carefully use CA license plates where appropriate.  (Sorry I can't cite
a particular episode, but we discussed this a bit on the MacGyver mailing
list, and concluded (or at least *I* concluded ;-) that it really was 
still supposed to be in LA, even though it didn't always make a lot of sense.

It certainly was a cold and wet version of Los Angeles, though!

	Nancy


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From: tchambers@trentu.ca (Terrence Chambers)
Subject: Neilsen Ratings?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:26:00 GMT

I was just wondering...
Is there anyone out there who has access to the Neilsen Ratings for Prime 
Time shows and who could post them on a regular basis?

Thanks!
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From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Energizer Bunny's resume
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:36:10 GMT
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657

I asked in <By18I7.5Lu@ddsw1.mcs.com>:

| Has rec.arts.tv ever had a canonical list of the Bunny's appearances?
| I've started one from memory in no particular order:

[a list followed of those I could think of at the time]

| Which have I missed?

Lance Smith <lsmith@cs.umn.edu> emailed me about one:

the Fannyciser (I think the bunny was wearing sweats)

He also brought up the original commercial challenging Duracell, where the
bunny first escaped.  I hadn't thought of including that one because I had
in mind only those where the bunny interrupted a fake commercial for some
non-existent but plausible product.  However, I hadn't specified that, so
Lance was right to mention it.

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From: jfrench@cs.utexas.edu (Jason French)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: The Leap Back
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:21:44 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelady.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov17.071852.15804@midway.uchicago.edu> rck1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.042525.27781@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley) writes:
>
>I'm curious...I didn't like "TLB" but I'm wondering if the USA
>reruns offered any explanation on the blatant discontinuity between
>the leap-out of "Shock Theater" and the leap-in of whatever episode
>they showed next ("Play Ball"?). Did they bother to change the
>leap-out of "ST" (although I'm not sure *how* it could be changed)?
>
>I can sort of understand postponing "The Leap Home I and II" since
>they "shouldn't" be split up, but since they showed "ST" on Friday,
>that doesn't look like what they're worried about...
>

On "Shock Theatre" they did show the leap into "The Leap Back".  The leap in
"Shock" is kind of a continuation of the show, so I guess they decided to
include it.  On "M.I.A.", which came on right before the "The Leap Home" they
showed the leap into "The Leap Home", but didn't show it the next day.  I hope
they will get around to it so can get it recorded soon.  It is the last one I
need besides "The Curse of Ptah-Hotep".

Jason French
jfrench@cs


From: tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Tony Zugates)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:03:54 GMT
Subject: Dissappointing Sci-Fi Cable Channel
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv

Well, the Sci-Fi channel finally arrived.. Are you as dissappointed as 
I am?   
They appear to be showing TV shows like War of the Worlds, Incredible Hulk
Space 1999... all of which can be found running on other cable channels..

They did show Star Wars on the opening night,  nothing as good since...
Every once in a while I see an old 50's sci-fi classic.

No Fireball XL5, no Outer Limits, no more big production classics...

I am just glad it is a part of the basic cable price... I sure wouldnt
want to pay for old reruns of Hulk.  Blahhhh....
From: JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu (Jean Prior)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Quantum Leak
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:20:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92324.122035JAP8
Organization: Penn State University

Well, it might be the first *televised* spoof of QL, but last night, the Penn
State Monty Python Society (well known for more than just Pythonic silliness)
had Impersonation Night, and two of our recurring impersonations were Sam and
Al.  Someone had brought in a huge stogie (bigger than Al's favorite) and one
of those graphics calculators, and everyone was passing them around and going
into the impersonations.  It was quite funny.  Hmm...I suppose ya had to be
there.  Cheers, Jean.

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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: MST3K ratings?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:55:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.115409.5435@cbfsb.cb.att.com> fgn@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (frank.g.neves) writes:
>In article <bigboote.WPI.EDU>, norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James) writes:
>> 
>> Why don't we start a question and answer type thing...
>> I know that I don't get the reference for about
>> 1 outta 10-20 jokes
[...]
>> My point is...do you think we could ask questions
>> about joke sources without getting flamed for our stupidity?
>> Anyone else think this is a good idea?
 
Of course!  It goes on all the time on alt.tv.mst3k (the questions, not
necessarily the flames :).  Ask away, that way I won't feel dumb when I
miss stuff. ;-)

>Tim, I'm definitely in favor of this type of information exchange; it will
>give us all the opportunity to show off our various personal collections
>of esoteric trivia.  This could be fun.

It is.  :-)

>My only request regarding this is that it not be restricted to the
>alt.fan.mst3k or alt.tv.mst3k groups, since I don't have access to them.

That's the only bummer about the alt groups.  I try to cross post things 
to rec.arts.tv because I KNOW too many people don't get the alt stuff.

>If we could do this in THIS group, I would be more than happy to take
>part.

I hope so. After all, this IS a tv group, and MST3K IS a tv show.  Right?
;-)


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From: jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow)
Subject: I'll Fly Away episodes needed.
Originator: jaslow@bissun
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:16:21 GMT

Last night, my wife and I decided to catch up on I'll Fly Away episodes we
had on tape.  Expecting a 3-hour marathon, much to my horror, we only got
to watch one show.  I screwed up taping not one, but TWO, of the shows.
Don't ask me how -- my name is already MUD in our household.

I need the last two episodes: November 6 and November 13 (this one was 
titled "Eighteen" I believe).  If anyone has these episodes on tape, I
would be very grateful.

Please email me if you do, and we can work out the particulars and costs.
Thanks a million in advance.
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From: jfrench@cs.utexas.edu (Jason French)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Quantum Leak
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:19:13 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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From uunet!oracle!unrepliable!bounce Fri Nov 20 08:13:41 CST 1992

>In article <lgnd6hINNpnq@lovelady.cs.utexas.edu> jfrench@cs.utexas.edu (Jason French) writes:
>>It was pretty funny.  This is the first spoof off of Quantum Leap I have seen.
>>Saturday Night Live did do, Donald Bellsario presents "Founding Fathers" where
>>George Washington, George Jefferson, and Thomas Eddison traveled in time to
>>help us fix our problems in the 1990s.

>Well, I'm pretty sure it was George Washington, *Thomas* Jefferson,
>and Benjamin Franklin.
>
>Although, I have to admit that the idea of George Washington
>travelling through time with George Jefferson strikes me as one of the
>more... *creative* ideas I've ever heard.  :-)

Oopps.  I would say that that was a major faux pas.  But now that I think about
it, it is quite funny isn't it?

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From: firenza@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL--The Leap Back  --Where is it?
Date: 22 Nov 1992 05:40:33 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


  I was just looking through my directory and I found the schedule for USA's
QL episodes, date Oct 28.  The Leap Back isn't listed.  It goes from Shock
Theatre to Play Bill.  I guess they planned not to show it for some reason.

firenza@wpi.wpedu
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From: ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin)
Subject: _Deadly Matrimony_
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:50:42 GMT

Does anyone know any of the details of the murder case on which this movie
is based (i.e., year of the murder, suburbs involved, etc.)?

Thanks in advance.
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From: nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin)
Subject: Re: Jackson's movie
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:40:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.164935.1736@rayssd.ssd.ray.com> d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Boudria) writes:
>My husband caught the tail end of the Jackson's Movie last night and I have
>a question.  We started discussing all the Jackson's and what they're doing
>now.  We know there were eight kids - two girls (LaToya and Janet) and six
>boys (Michael, Randy, Marlon, Tito, Germaine and .........).  That's the
>problem, we can't think of the name.  While we were trying to think of it
>we started to pay real close attention to the movie and never heard them
>say the name (and we watched for about an hour).  So does anybody else know
>the last Jackson's name????

I bet you get a zillion answers to this, but I'll answer it anyway.

The 6th boy's name is "Jackie".  The correct spelling of Jermaine is
"Jermaine" ;-)

I think in order of age they go:

	Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, Michael, Randy

with the girls mixed in there somewhere (I think Janet is between Michael
and Randy).

There was also a 3rd girl named "Rebie" or something like that.  She got
married before they moved to California, against the wishes of her father.

>And why didn't they say anything about him in
>the last hour???

I think there was no particular reason.  He was in all the scenes where
he should have been.  His name just didn't come up.

>And why did all the kids call their father Joseph and not
>Dad????  Inquiring minds want to know.
>

I didn't notice any explanation for this.


For my own question, were there 3 or 4 actors playing Michael?  Did they
switch briefly to an older teenage Michael (the one who was complaining
that he was ugly), or was that just the middle Michael made to look older?

I thought the second Michael looked too old in a lot of the scenes.  I think
he was playing age 9-14, and he looked more like 14 when he was supposed
to be 9.

I enjoyed this movie, by the way.  I wasn't going to watch it, on the
principle that I don't watch things that are over-hyped, but I enjoyed
this one anyway... ;-)

	Nancy


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From: rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen)
Subject: Re: Picket Fences -> Mention of masturbation?  Oh boy.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:19:51 GMT

edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu  writes:
> 
> With all the "frank" dialog, the show was in the 8pm (Eastern) time-slot.
>NO IT WASN'T it was on at 10pm EST If you don't know what you're talking
about, then don't say a thing. 
> -- 
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From: rdunkle@engin.umich.edu (R. M. Dunkle)
Subject: Re: MST3K ratings?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:50:29 EST
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan
Distribution: usa

In article <1egjodINNpe1@bigboote.WPI.EDU> norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James) writes:
>In article <TDG=8GC@engin.umich.edu> rdunkle@engin.umich.edu (R. M. Dunkle) writes:
>>
>>	"They're waiting for Goto!" = "They're waiting for Godot", from 
>>"Waiting for Godot", a play. 
>>-- 
>
>By Samuel Beckett as a matter o fact...
>No offense but that was a favorite quote..not
>a question, although there might be some people that
>didn't get the reference...
>In Waiting For Godot two men sit waiting for Godot the
>whole time, talking about when he will get there, where he is,
>etc... I think he is a drug connection, or just an arbitrary 
>connection they are waiting for...anyway, the characters
>in Time of the Apes are standing there waiting for Goto the 
>good guy, and Crow spit that one out...
>Not meaning to flame, just clarify...
>Thanks thought Brian!
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>--------------
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>tmcinern@feds26.Prime.com    "I wanna decide who lives 
>norbert@wpi.wpi.edu           and who dies"  - Crow


	Whoops. That's one I haven't seen, though I have heard them 
say someone was waiting for Godot at least one other time. With the, ah, heh, 
well, diiii, the, ah, spelled "Goto", ah, it seemed like maybe a question.
	It's a hell of a lot funnier when you know there's a character
named Goto. :)
	(rattin-frattin never show the stupid first or third season Comedy
Central deadbeats...I wanna see 'm *all*!)
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From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL:  The Alternate Ending to DUFE, Part 1
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:29:12 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.sf
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA

A shame to correct my own article, but I made a rather obvious
mistake.

In article <DLB.92Nov13154451@fanny.wash.inmet.com> dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:

   Part one cometh.  Spoilers:
   
   
   Al bends down, and picks Alia up.  He puts her on the bed.  Al says,
   "Good job, Sam.'  

Of course, I meant Sam bending down and picking Alia up.

Apologies.

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
From: johnbr@master.CNA.TEK.COM (John Breeden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Picket Fences -> Mention of masturbation?  Oh boy.
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:08:30 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Nov19.232822.156592@zeus.calpoly.edu> kjaskiew@zeus.calpoly.edu (Keith Ross Jaskiewicz) writes:

>As anyone who watched the 11/18 episode of _Seinfeld_ will attest, the
>_Picket Fences_ brief and subtle mention of masturbation pales to the 30
>hilarious minutes of the Seinfeld gang's contest to see who could last
>the longest without "using their body like an amusement park."  As far
>as I can recall, the 'M' word was never once uttered.

This was absolutely one *the* funniest things I have ever seen on TV.  The "in 
bed at night" scenes had me falling off the couch!  Especially the last one.



John Breeden 
(johnbr@master.cna.tek.com)

"I am master of my domain."




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From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Ben Stiller Show; anyone the 11/15 episode on tape?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 05:45:11 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
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In article <1992Nov19.012411.8836@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.202339.8134@colorado.edu> fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j. a. fielden) writes:
>
>>And Hey hey we're the Grungies"
>>The best apart about that was they basically followed the orginal
>>Monkee's clip visually they just changed the lyrics and added some
>>musical "ornamentation" and placed it in Seattle.
>
>I thought this show was great, and the week before this was a real
>classic (Charles Mansons household tips and Oliver Stone World).
>About the Grungies though. I'm just a few months short of forty. Since
>I remember the Monkees first hand this was a great episode but I wonder
>what people in their 20s or so thought about it.


	Ah, but you're missing something; about two years ago, MTV
	re-ran (And re-ran, and re-ran, and re-ran) all the original
	Monkees shows; there was also a monkees reunion tour, and 
	I think a new album... So the MTV generation probably
	remembers the Monkees better than you do! =B^)



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