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From: jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ROM boot
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:34:50 GMT
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things

In article <1992Apr8.175437.29296@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is only a feature of the Classic
>otherwise known as the XO machine...
>   The system is a hacked and stripped version of 6.0.5? 3? and it

version 6.0.3

>comes with appleshare, letting a classic act as a a cheap network server.

No no no.  It has the Appleshare _client_ software, thus allowing the
machine to be connectable to a fileserver without a boot disk.

>In any case, it is cool having your system boot in 3 seconds flat, but
>remember - no inits or cdevs. I posted a while ago wondering how
>possible this would be - installing o/s in ROM and then reading
>the inits and cps off of disk. That would make things a hell of
>alot faster and pretty damn cool - I think Deskmate from Tandy
>did this, but I'm not sure...

The 3/30/92 issue of MacWEEK has a front-page article about Apple's rumored
new "consumer Macintosh" configuration.  It is expected to consist of a
modified Classic II bundled with a StyleWriter printer for under $1000.  The
really interesting part is that the machine will _not_ come with a built-in
hard disk.  Instead, it will boot from a ROM SIMM containing the operating
system and various third-party applications.  The article doesn't say which
version of the operating system or which applications, although it mentions
the possibility of an integrated package (such as Claris Works) and a
financial planner (such as Quicken).  The article also says that, apart from
the absence of an internal HD, the "consumer" machine is a standard Classic
II, which leaves open the owner's option to add an external hard disk later on.

I think that such a machine would be a GREAT idea.  I hope the article is true.

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From: molla@paone.uucp (Levent Mollamustafaoglu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Using foreign fonts with System 7.0.1
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:21:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Apr10.052112.10522
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <14164@claris.com> Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.183528.28510@das.harvard.edu>, molla@paone.uucp (Levent Mollamustafaoglu) writes:
>> 
>> I have a curious problem with System 7.0.1. I use foreign fonts
>> (Turkish) occasionally when I have to write some document in
>> my own language. I have a Mac Classic II with System 7.0.1
>> (Tuned-Up) at home and a Mac II ci with the same system con-
>> figuration in the office.
>> 
>> I put Bitmapped and TrueType versions of the fonts that I
>> wanted into the system file. Everything seems to be OK, I
>> can see the Turkish fonts (which have a few additional
>> characters like c with cedilla-as in French etc.) regard-
>> less of their being TT or bitmapped. But when I want to
>> print them (from Word 4.0), the printer (LaserWriter
>> Plus) prints out the equivalent (strange) symbols from
>> the English fonts. If I de-select "Substitute Fonts"
>> from the Page Setup menu, I can get my fonts, but of
>> course not the Postscript ones, since the system now
>> creates bitmapped version of the fonts, which are 
>> terrible.
>
>The problem is that for some reaon, you are not getting your
>TrueType fonts printed. When you turn on Font Substitution,
>you're telling the system and printer to substitute the
>most appropriate font that is built in to the LaserWriter
>and not to use your Turkish font.  From your description,
>it seems that you do not have any Turkish PostScript fonts
>in your system; all you mentioned having installed only the
>bit-mapped and TrueType fonts.  When you select a font size,
>are all the sizes outlined in the Size menu?  If not, then
>you aren't using the TrueType fonts.  If they are, and you
>still get the bit-mapped rendition from the printer, I
>don't know what the problem is.
>
The strange thing is, I could print from System 6.0.7 on
the same machine, although I still did not have Postscript
fonts. The reason I did not try it after I installed
System 7 was, since I did not partitition the HD (it's not
worth it, since the Turkish system will be used very
infrequently), whenever I do something on System 6.0.7
and reboot (via SystemSwitcher) with System 7, the system
has to rebuild the desktop and upgrade the driver. (I have
also upgraded the disk driver in order to be able to use 
Virtual memory) If I can not find a solution, I will do it
this way, since it is only a minor inconvenience.


===========================================================================
Dr. Levent Mollamustafaoglu       Harvard University    
molla@paone.harvard.edu    molla@metatron.harvard.edu
===========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ehanson@opus.acslab.umbc.edu (Mr. Erik Hanson; ARTS-SCI (UGRAD))
Subject: Another Possible Tuneup 1.1 Problem
Summary: Weird bomb-handling
Keywords: tuneup bomb jellyfish
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County, Mathematics Department
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:42:43 GMT


Ever since I tuned up with 1.1, the text in the dialog box that I
get when my C program bombs starts near the bottom of the bomb
dialog box. If I remember correctly, the icon that comes with the
dialog box (if there is one; I fixed my program so it hasn't bombed
since yesterday morning) starts down by the misplaced text.

Consequently, the "Reset" and "Restart" buttons are inaccessable
because they are too far down in the window.

(Oh, yeah. I've got a Mac SE/30 with System 7.0 (tuned with 1.1),
5MB RAM, 40MB internal HD, external 13" monitor, wads o' extensions
and control panels.)

I'm not too worried about this problem, but I thought I'd offer this
as a possible reason for Apple's withdrawl of the Tuneup program.
(Of course, this could be the result of some init conflict, but
I doubt it (for no apparent reason).)


Seeya!
Erk

______________________________________________________________________________
Erik Hanson   University o' Maryland Baltimore County   ehanson@umbc3.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: chh9@quads.uchicago.edu (Conrad Halton Halling)
Subject: Re: Sys 7.01, SUM II, and an LC...
Reply-To: chh9@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:38:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.012734.15333@newsroom.utas.edu.au> 
     Simon.James@agsci.utas.edu.au writes:

>Not an answer sorry Karl, but another person saying... Yeah, what's the story
>Symantec (or anybody with the knowledge) ?? -- SUM TuneUp doesn't work anymore
>(I think it's to do with the new desk top system) and filesharing screws up SUM
>Shield! Those were the two main features I brought SUM II for :-( Could anyone
>kind enough to answer set their distribution worldwide so the posting reaches
>all the way to Tasmania, thanks in advance. Simon.

Symantec has an upgrade (to 2.0.1, I think, except my copy is at home so
I can't check this right now) that is System-7 compatible.  I had to call
Symantec to find out about it.  The upgrade price was negligible -- something
like $10.  They just mail you a couple of disks.

I think Symantec is putting all their money and development effort into
Norton Utilities for the Mac, which they bought recently.  My only basis
for saying this is that if they were planning on upgrading SUM II for
System 7, they should have done so long ago.  I've heard that Norton
Utilities is better.  I guess we SUM II users have been abandoned.  

SUM II has some annoying little glitches in it that worry me.  For example,
the arithmetic is always wrong during disk backups.  I always get down to
something like "0K remaining   10 files remaining" near the end of the
backups.  I don't know if I trust it to repair my hard disk -- I just use
it for backups.

I guess Symantec realized their product was second-rate and decided to fix
it by buying something better (Norton).  I'm surprised by this since
Think C is such a superior product.  They must have some good programmers
somewhere in the company.

-- 
Conrad Halling
c-halling@uchicago.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rtp1@quads.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert)
Subject: File sharing of CD-ROM?
Reply-To: rtp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:29:15 GMT


I have a CD-ROM volume I'd like to share over the network, under
System 7.  However, when I select the cd-rom icon and try to
share it, I get the message that the volume can't be
shared because not all files are available for sharing.  This
is an ISO9660 cdrom, if that makes a difference.  We can
read it fine locally, so there's no problem with the system
configuration.

Any idea on what might be causing this problem?  

Please respond by email to rtp1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Rom boot
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:54:37 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is only a feature of the Classic
otherwise known as the XO machine...
   The system is a hacked and stripped version of 6.0.5? 3? and it
comes with appleshare, letting a classic act as a a cheap network server.
In any case, it is cool having your system boot in 3 seconds flat, but
remember - no inits or cdevs. I posted a while ago wondering how
possible this would be - installing o/s in ROM and then reading
the inits and cps off of disk. That would make things a hell of
alot faster and pretty damn cool - I think Deskmate from Tandy
did this, but I'm not sure...
   Sorry I can't help you with the SI though...
steve
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From: callahan@itr.wa.com (John Callahan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: News readers for UUCP feeds?
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:33:18 GMT
Reply-To: callahan@itr.wa.com (John Callahan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Information Technology Research, Seattle, U.S.A.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Apr14.010414.13648@hatch.socal.com> (comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.wanted), jwallace@hatch.socal.com (John Wallace) writes:
> 
> Are there any newsreaders available that will read USENET and mail files
> from my local disk?  I have a UUCP news feed through a local service
> and the USENET and mail files are just dumped onto my hard disk.
> I'm looking for applications that will help me read and manage these
> files.  Any suggestions?  (Either public domain or $$$ are OK).
> 
> Thanks!
> John
> 
> ----
> John Wallace            jwallace@hatch.socal.com
> 

I use uAccess for news and mail.  It does exactly what you want --
"help me read and manage these files."

I highly recommend uAccess.  As a product, it's an elegant piece of work.
Customer support is both knowledgeable and responsive.

Try  info@ice.com  for an automated reply that will provide descriptive information
on uAccess.

Good luck.

John


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pnoguchi@helix.nih.gov (Philip Noguchi)
Subject: Re: The Font from Hell!!
Organization: National Institues of Health
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:08:19 GMT

In article <19815@castle.ed.ac.uk>, egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
> 
> Yesterday I tried to remove a bit-map font by dragging it from the system file
> to the trash. Sure enough, after re-starting, the font is gone from the system
> file, but it's STILL ON FONT MENUS for WORD etc., and you can still select and
> use it. How can I get rid of this font??
> 

I have had this problem before. I believe that it is due to the FONT or NFNT
being removed, but the FOND resource is not. One way to get rid of the FOND
is to open the system file with resedit, not necessarily the most risk-free
way, however. Try using Font/DA Mover 4.1 to open the system file, and see
if the Garamond still shows up; if so, you should be able to use F/DA mover
to remove the FOND
From: trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MAC Trivia
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:11:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr06.211103.12305
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

mg4s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marissa Gonzalez) writes:

>Is there any meaning behind the Mac "SE", "si","ci","fx" etc...

I do know that SE is supposed to be "Seriously Excellent."  Or at least
read that in MacWeek ages ago..



					GTr
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: AppleShare 3.0 Printer Server and < LaserWriter 7.0
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:49:17 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Apr4.212716.9986@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, gest_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Gavin Stark) writes:
> 
> 
> Is there a way to get the AppleShare 3.0 Print Server to use anything less
> that LaserWriter 7.0?  Or, alternatively, is there a way to allow machines
> with LaserWriter 6.x to print to a Printer Sever with 7.0 running?
> 
> 


Yes, put LaserWriter 5.2 AND laser prep 5.2 in the Extensions folder
of the machine running Print Server 3.0... This, of course is not 
oficially test or supported by Apple, but it seems to work...


Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
From: bayes@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Bayes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Re: Will there be a Tune-Up 1.1.1.1?
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:44:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO

>         software authors, vendors, distributors and, yes, USERS (!!)
>         fear happening, but which happens none-the-less due to
>         human error; usually, a very unhappy, unfortunate, and very
>         sorry human, by the way, often turned into a scape-goat
>         undeservedly, after having worked to exhaustion under great
>         personal sacrifices responding with the best of intentions to
>         time and managerial pressures, to fix a problem which was
>         created in the software design and programming many, many
>         years ago, by someone who may or not have long ago left the
>         company or been promoted or transfered to new and different
>         responsibilities...
> 
>         it is called "software maintenance" and is a reality of the
>         process often blamed on a mythical person called "Murphy" ... ;-)

Obviously you've been there.  A very good description of what really
goes on, and why we need to cut the programmers (not the
decision-makers) some slack.

Thank you.

ScottB
From: brecher@pyramid.unr.edu (Steve Brecher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Suitcase 2.0 on PowerBooks
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: brecher@pyramid.unr.edu (Steve Brecher)
Distribution: usa
Organization: still disorganized in Reno, NV, USA=

In <ARIE.92Apr4141223@dip.eecs.umich.edu>, arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie
Covrigaru) writes:

> Did anyone experience problems with Suitcase 2.0 on the PowerBooks? It
> crashes on my configuration, system 7.0.1, Tune-Up 1.1, PowerBook 170.

Apple's Fax Extension Switcher INIT (er, extension) 1.0 has a bug which
results in Suitcase 2.0 crashing unless it is executed before Fax
Extension Switcher.  Suitcase 2.1, forthcoming, will work around the
problem.

Otherwise, I experience no problem with the configuration you cite, which
I also have here.  I'm the author of Suitcase.

--
brecher@pyramid.cs.unr.edu (Steve Brecher)
From: jonesbb@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Brian R. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Hard Drive, Stylewriter and IIe card v1.2 summary
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:52:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44360
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


	I posted a couple of questions about two weeks ago (sorry about the
lag time - these darn things called "exams" keep getting in the way!) about
the future of the Stylewriter, the new IIe card for the LC and the Quantum
105 LPS hard drive.
	First, the Stylewriter is a printer based on Quickdraw (built into
System 7) and a result the computer takes care of all the font manipulation\
and rendering and tells the Stylewriter what to do.  As a result, the Style-
writer will work with Truetype, ATM or whatever else comes along.  So it will
be around for a while anyway since everyone seems exceptionally pleased with
the print quality and even the speed when the new driver is used.
	The difference in the new IIe card for the LC is a little more vague.
The two responses I received indicated that the update was to make the card
compatable with the LC II and thus System 7.  I am not positive of this.
	As to the Quantum 105 LPS hard drive, almost every response indicated
that I should get it from APS.  One supported Mirror Technologies.  One note
said that the 105 meg drive was being discontinued in favor of the 120 meg.
I hope not since a 15 meg increase is currently an $80.00 difference!  Many
kind people indicated that, yes, hard drives do wear out.  This is called the
Mean Time Between Failure or MBTF.  The MBTF for modern drives is apoximately
50,000 hours.  Some drive will fail long before this time and others never in
the user's lifetime.
	I usually try to respond individually, but about 30 replies and a tight
schedule wouldn't allow it.  So, my deepest thanks to those who helped!!

									 -Brian

P.S. I had one response asking about my perfect margins.  How did I do it?
     Pure luck!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller)
Subject: Aliases in System Folder II: A Brush with Insanity
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:38:06 GMT

This is somwhat rleated to the earlier post about aliasing items
in the System Folder, but not. I run both 7.0.0 splat 1.1.1 and
System 6.0.7 and I would like to not have to have 2 copies of
every init and CDEV that I own on my startup partition of my hard
disk. Also, as stated before, the Aldus and Claris folders do ten
to take up quite a bit of space as well. 

Is there a way to alias extensions, and CPs so that they will
work under both systems????


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From: anstine@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: 16mb of RAM and system 6.x. Possible?
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:41:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Here's a stupid question. Can system 6.x access more than 8mb of RAM? If not,
is there any software that will help? With system 7.0, 32 bit addressing must
be turned on, but some people still hate it.

-dave
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Switch-Launch died in System 6?
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:34:00 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck

I'd like to be able to launch System 7.0 into a RAM disk - dead useful
for the (non System 6) PowerBooks when altering HD partitions and the
like. This was possible under System 6 - start from the HD under
UniFinder, select the RAM disk as startup application, copy across the
system files, switch-launch into MultiFinder.  I can't think of any
way to do it for System 7.0. Is it possible?

Nick.
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From: nerm@apple.com (Dean Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Problem with Tuneup 1.1
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:42:57 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <aland.702880928@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know what the problem is with Tuneup 1.1?  In other words,
> what bugs are in it such that Apple has recalled it?  (To fend off the
> rest of the people explaining that Apple has recalled it... *grin*)
> 
> We're having a problem where trying to copy a file after Tuneup was
> installed produces an error -50, 'unable to copy'.  This is on a
> Quadra 700...
> 
> Also, what is required to uninstall the TuneUp?  Can we just drag the
> TuneUp out of the Extensions folder, or did the Installer change any
> System resources?
> 
> This is somewhat urgent, as it is now impossible to finder-copy files
> from this machine...
> 

  1.1 was recalled because a bad header file was used to compile it,
causing the application purger (affectionately known as "The Assassin")
to crash if it ever gets invoked.  That's the *only* reason.  Your
error is coming from somewhere else...

  -- Dean Yu
     Blue Meanie, Negative Ethnic Role Model, Window Cleaner,
      Skanky Hack Consultant, etc.
     Apple Computer, Inc.
     It still isn't my fault.
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Bug in System 7 File Sharing?
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:07:27 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Apr8.142748.9810@athena.mit.edu>, dks@athena.mit.edu (dks) writes:
> 
> 
> On the same topic, does anyone know what the following alert signifies?
> 
>      One or more items could not be shared,
>      because not all volumes are available
>      for file sharing.
> 
> It appears when I try to set "Sharing..." options on only _some_ mounted
> local disk partitions.
> 

It means the volume or partition was not "prepared" by System 7 FileSharing when 
FileSharing started up. To test, try turning off FileSharing and then turning
it back on with all volumes you want to share on the desktop. Then see if
you can share those volumes.

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pwan@scott.skidmore.edu (peter wan)
Subject: Re: tune up 1.1.1?????
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:35:39 GMT

lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena) writes:
> hi,
> 
> i think that i'm now properly confused.
> what exactly is it that i need to be running before i install
> tune up 1.1.1 ???  i'm at sys 7.0.  do i need to install
> 7.0.1 and tune up 1.1 before tune up 1.1.1.

 NO
 
> or can i install tune up 1.1.1 directly to 7.0??

 YES 

> (fyi, i'm running a iicx with a radius rocket  
>  under sys 7 using rocketware 1.3 and mode 32)
>  
>  thanks in advance,
> lito lucena
> lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil
>  now at  :  dtmb, cdhq, nwsc          'if the defaults weren't good enough,
>  formerly: dtrc, carderock                  they wouldn't be defaults.....'
> 							bill's sister