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From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: META: How to split?
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:58:13 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <lis.703387422@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)

> Unless a good split can be worked out <VERY> soon, we may as well
> shelve this until the fall.  Or discuss it over the summer while
> things are quiet and vote in the fall.  Because I don't think there'll
> be enough people here over the summer to sustain a vote.  


I think the best time for the split is in the summer BECAUSE
most of the students are gone for you generally get a lot fewer
posted votes. 

From my past observations on rec.arts.comics split discussions are
held every year (I recall a big one in the mid 80's) and nothing is
resolved.

Maybe is the splits was started in the summer and the vote was
done at the start of the fall it might work.

A moderated info group would definitely be useful; one which posted
upcoming comic news with source, books to be shipped, and reviews.

Titles would be consistant (easy enough to write a filter which would
automaticly bounce a message back to the reader if subject was
malformed) with the company and title on it so readers could
just look at the titles/company they had interest in if they choose.
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From: breitzsp@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Scotty B at UWEC)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re:INDY Dave Sim and Misspent Youths
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:18:50 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

> Pat -- In #156 you mention that _Misspent Youth_ is on your list of 
> top ten comics.

Can you have any higher praise than that?  If you haven't picked up this
series, only 5 issues so it won't take a lot of funds.  Get it now!

Scotty B

P.S. Has anybody out there picked Misspent Youths up?
From: ed_medeiros@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: RE:Marvel:X-Men Traitor
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:43:09 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

Bishop is from the future and is part of the XSE (Xavier's Something Enforcers)
or something like that.  He was brought back from the future in one of the
Uncanny X-man issues (after the split) with two other enforcers and a shit load
of evil mutants.  Well any way the other two enforcers got killed recently and
Bishop ended up fighting with the U X-Men.  After a couple of issues Prof X
let's him become an X-Man with the Gold Team.  This is bits and pieces from
memory.  His mutant power is to redirect energy/force blasts any way he wishes. 
Hope this helps.
From: SATELLITE@eldi.epfl.ch (Uncle Alias)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Coloring Elfquest
Date: 3 Apr 92 12:22:55 GMT
Organization: Satellite -- Enjoy!.. -- EPFL Students pub
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In <!_jj=sm.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com writes:

> I picked up the new Elfquest GN (KotBW 2).  For the most part the comic
> is better for the color, but not always.  In the last few GNs, the scenes
> taking place at night have been *dark*.  This is realistic, of course,
> but I prefer the convention that allows the reader to see what is going
> on clearly, even at 'night'.
> 
> I had some fun with the first few pages of this GN, trying to figure out
> whether Suntop's shirt was colored the same from panel to panel.  As nearly
> as I can tell, it wasn't.
> 

	Well, what I can tell about the new color books, is that the old ones
(Starblaze editions) looked better. This is especially true for the #1-4, where
there seem to be "color holes", and even "color drooling" every page or so.
Sure, the colors are gorgeous, but they eat up most of the nice details.

> Word has it that future Elfquest comics will be colored.  For me, at least,
> this removes the incentive to get the graphic novels when they come out.

	That would be a darn mistake, since 1) it would effectively remove most
of the interest in GNs 2) it would look pretty bad on the paper they use, 3) it
would catapult prices into high orbit. Let's hope the Pinis have more sense
than this!..

> -----
> Dani Zweig
> dani@netcom.com
> 
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From: mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Flash year 1 --- yawwwnnn
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:18:26 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr10.224943.24497@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:

> Super-speed is a power much closer in spirit to ftl or X-ray vision than
> it is to say, enhanced strength or extreme dexterity.  Suspend disbelief,
> and it can be fun.  Attempt to come up with a consistent, science-fictional,
> real world-like mechanism for it and you'll trip over the contradictions.
> Personally, I'd rather see Wally doing all of Barry's old stunts, from
> vibrating through walls to running at multiples of c anyway.  (Which is
> perfectly realistic in a world with Superman and Zatanna in it in any
> case.  I don't know what they use for natural laws there, but it isn't
> any physics _I_ know.  :-) )

What doany of you think about the return of Jay Garrick, age 50ish, to the
DC universe?  He will now be the fastest man alive, since it was stated in
one of the annuals/specials that his speed was light speed level, while
Wally's is currently in the neighborhood of sound.  Maybe Jay will give
Wally that reflective speed that he used to get from Barry.

Mark McConnell
mamcconnell@uccs.edu
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From: William R Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Killing Joke (help needed)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:19:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr08.231442.69690@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> you write:
>My friend recently gave me some of his comics and among them was a copy of
>Batman:The Killing Joke.  The problem is that I don't know how to tell if its
>a first printing or not.  It has red printing on the cover if that helps.
>Please e-mail me with any responses.
>
>                            Thanks,
>                            Chuck Kemmerer
>                            clk0@lehigh.ns1.edu
>
>                            

It's definitely NOT a first printing -- the first printing 
was done in green.  As for the other printings, I don't 
know what printing has what color -- I don't have them.   

--The Rook
  <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

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From: uk02700@nx30.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french)
Subject: Re: Powerpax
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:50:11 GMT
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In article <bsrjn-n.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
> phillies@wpi.WPI.EDU (George D. Phillies):
> >Mea Culpa: I don't read X-Force, and didn't note obvious clues that 
> >the Annual is ten years futurewards, though they were clearly spelled 
> >out.  So, from available clues, who could Powerpax be...
> 
> I took it for granted that Francine was a composite of the current
> Power Pack.  This is quite consistent with the way the comic was  
written.
> 
> -----
> Dani Zweig
> dani@netcom.com
> 
>    Aphorism is better than none.

	I just had a thought...what if we're making this too complicated?  
	The member of Power Pack could give their powers to another  
person.  (They did it with a Snark, Prince Jakal.)  Why does Powerpax have  
to be related to the original members?
	[It's been a while since I saw the annual, and I can't  
remember...did this new kid's last name get mentioned?]

Mushroom
From: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: alan davis
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:52:36 EST
Reply-To: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

In message <1992Apr3.173109.1176#bvc.edu> daikerjohnc@bvc.edu wrote:

>I like Alan Davis' work on Excalibur (Except for the new logo...did he do
>that?), and was wondering what other titles he's written for. I know about

His  first  american  work  was,  if  I  recall properly, Batman and the
Outsiders, with Mike Barr. He took over the regular book when Jim  Aparo
went to do the  deluxe Outsiders book. Davis  has also done a  number of
Batman and Detective fill-ins over the years. He did the first issue  of
Batman: Year  One, as  well as  the first  Maze Agency  story (which was
finally printed in the Maze Agency special last year).

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From: marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com (Shawn Del Marier)
Subject: Re: X-Men Traitor
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:41:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.172436.8343@cci632.cci.com> das@cci632.cci.com (David Stumme (co-op)) writes:
>OK, here's a different take on the X-Judas. I propose Rogue.  Evidence
>and theories:
>
>	- If she took out one member at a time, she could quite easily
>	  amass the raw power necessary to take out ANY of them.

This got me thinking about one of the backup stories in one of the X-Men
annuals this year.  It was the one were Angel was having the flashback/dream of
when he lost his wings.  That creature that was 'absorbing' mutants into
it so that they could survive after they 'died'.  Its outfit and power reminded
me a lot of Rogue's, exspecialy if she was to absorb her adopted mother's
(damn can't recall her name right now) power to shape shift.

Could this have been a future version of rogue?

Enquiring minds want to know.

PS she is one of my favorite X-Men to.

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From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted Faber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: question
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:58:49 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In <1992Apr14.054948.22594@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare) writes:

>Long time Cerebus fans may think this a dumb question, but how does the big
>C disappear at the start of Mothers and Daughters #4?

	It's not at all clear.  But what is in Cerebus?  Apparently it's
	the fault of the S. Po inpersonator....

>                                                       Also, is he able to
>fly or what?

	Not since he was exposed to Gold Frostonite in issue #34
>
>
>-- 
>William ("Shakespeare") Gulstad          /  So where are the C.S. babes?


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 overpopulation; that if everyone in the world turned 'vegomatic' tomorrow we 
 could support ten times the population we have now.  I swear those broads 
 won't be happy until the whole planet looks like one big Woodstock festival 
 (minus any music or loud talking for fear we'll 'wake the babies')." 
			-- Dave Sim

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From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Best/Worst PAD
Date: 7 Apr 1992 18:31:43 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <12019@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzhedric@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>	Since I began reading this group I get the feeling that most of us
>are pseudo alt.fan.PAD members.

  "I'm a PADdie, he's a PADdie, wouldn't you like to be a PADdie too?"

>	What is your favorite PAD story?  Why?

  "Leap for my Love (or) Spring is in the Air", AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #whatever.
Featured Peter Parker, the Toad, Frog-Man, the Spectacular Spider-Kid, the
Black Cat, and some of the funniest Spider-material I have ever read. Simply
dumb, simply silly, simply entertaining. And I wasn't even a PAD groupie (or
a net.reader, for that matter) at the time.

  Actually, choosing one good PAD story is tough (so many more come to mind),
but since I'm so comically-oriented...

>	What is your least favorite PAD story?  Why?

  "The Commuter", the issue right after the above. The humor just didn't
click for me. It was amusing, but "not half as good as the last issue done
by what's-his-name".

                                                --R.J.
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: ALAN MOORE KNOWS *WHAT* SCORE??
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:20:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.1!2j6-g
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

afarrell@maths.tcd.ie (Andrew Farrell) writes:

> He also wrote V for Vendetta, and (If you can find them in America) The
> Ballad of Halo Jones, and D.R. & Quinch's Someythingorother (I can't
> remember the name right now.) whilst still working in England. All
> highly recommended. 

If you're going to read D.R. AND QUINCH you're much better off reading the
original National Lampoon O.C. AND STIGGS issue that Moore stole the
concept from lock, stock, and barrel.

--
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: STARWARS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:51:41 GMT

>  A while back, there was posted a list of Star Wars-related books,
>including the title "The End of the Empire".  Does anybody know what
>this book was about ( besides what you can get from the title ) ?

I have never, repeat never, heard of this.  I concider myself fairly up-to-date
with all SW stuff, but this is new to me.

It might have been a distortion of "Heir to the Empire"
or of a script treatment to Episode 3 called "Fall of the Republic"(had someone
out there told me that it was actually fan-fiction, not real?)

It's also possible it is a name from a module for the RPG, but I doubt it.

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From: dethomas@amherst.edu (The Human Torch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Mutant: question
Date: 31 Mar 92 23:36:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Mar31.193619.1
Organization: Grucci Fireworks Inc.

In article <1992Mar31.060400.22485@midway.uchicago.edu>, gmf2@quads.uchicago.edu (gary michael feldman) writes:
> I think Jean should be one of themost powerful mutants around;
> much more so than Cyclops or Wolverine!!!!!

Pardon me, but what on earth gave you the impression that Cyclops and Wolverine
were "powerful" mutants? They both have were good combat skills and other
learned skills as well as good offensive powers, but on the power scale, I
would say Franklin Richards (if they ever define his powers) and Magneto, as
well as a few others that I can't think of right now would wipe up the flor
with either of them if they wanted to.

> Seems like most people would be vulnerable to her psi-attacks,
> except perahps Gambit and Betsy.  Still she could take them out
> wtih TK.  

Why is gambit excluded from psionic attack? As for Betsy, she has been taken
out by psionic attack before. That's primarily how people have gotten to her. 

later days!
--dt

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From: sasso@flounder.phy.anl.gov (John F. Sasso)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MUTANT: More Judas Stuff -- Rogue?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:18:58 GMT
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory

In article <92100.210709UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET> <UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET> (David R. Henry) writes:
>Yep. Rogue turns traitor just because she *used* to be a villain. Boy, you
>
stuff deleted

>BTW, I'm surprised that everyone's taking this Judas thing so seriously.
>I mean, the only proof we have is one video recording, which Bishop just
>accepted as true. I mean, hate to say it, folks, but dubbing certainly
>exists in the Marvel world as well. Nothing like a little bit of creative
>filmmaking to make the mutants worry needlessly.
>


Which is why I think IF there is a traitor, it'll be Bishop.  Then there
won't be a traitor.  Get it.

Maybe what they'll do is something really bizarre like FAKE their deaths,
let Bishop film it all, and, uh, this is getting out of hand!  Maybe
Bishop is just all looney, and there is no traitor.  There, now I can
sleep tonight.

							JFS



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From: n8744926@henson.cc.wwu.edu (m e bracher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: STARWARS
Keywords: BOOKS
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:25:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Apr10.022548.11763
Organization: Western Washington University

bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael Y Fan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.153757.23576@newcastle.ac.uk> Kevin.McGarvey@newcastle.ac.uk (Kevin.McGarvey) writes:
>>
>>I want to know if there any books available that are to do with the STARWARS saga.  I have only got Starwars IV,V,and VI and a couple of HANS SOLO books.
>>
>>But I want more!!!!!!!!

>Here is a list of what I can remember exists in book form.  I asssume you only
>want fiction -- not documentary stuff.

>Star Wars (George Lucas) [ghosted -- Alan Dean Foster]
>The Empire Strikes Back (Donald F. Glut)
>Return of the Jedi [James Kahn]

>Heir to the Empire (Timothy Zahn)

>Han Solo at Stars' End [Brian Daley]
>Han Solo and the Lost Legacy [Brian Daley]
>Han Solo's Revenge [Brian Daley]

>Lando Calrissian and the [Starcave] of Thonboka [L. Neil Smith]
>Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon [L. Neil Smith]
>Lando Calrissian and the [Mindharp] of [Sharu] [L. Neil Smith]

>Splinter of the Mind's Eye

>The End of the Empire

(What's The End of the Empire?)

I made a few modifications to the above list ... a few titles,
and some authors.  and y'know, it really scares me:  that I could look
a list of Star Wars books and, still, fill in the gaps.  yike, I must
have been really addicted at one time.

anyway:  here are some opinions.

as far as the Lando novels, skip them.  really.  I wish I had.

Han Solo ... they aren't bad.

Splinter of the Mind's Eye ... isn't *bad*, but it is sort of
discounted by the later films.  interesting.

Timothy Zahn ... far better than nothing, and I'm waiting for the next
book.

and as far as the novelisations go, Foster's was fairly good, Glut did
a really good job with Empire, and Kahn's job on Jedi made me feel
truly ill.  the first two are worth reading.  Jedi ... is not.

(feel free to disagree.  as I'm sure some people will...)

- amtt

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Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 19:19:21 EDT
From: Brian Surratt <BPS106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Darkhorse Distribution
Distribution: world

Speaking of Dark Horse, does anyone know what ever happened to ALIENS: TRIBES?
it was SUPPOSED to come out before Christams and here it is Spring.

                   Brian "The Ratt" Surratt
From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Batman's Dog
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:59:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr16.235940.644
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Apr16.103917.8333@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>  
acadams@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
> In article <92106.165329UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET>  
<UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET> (David R. Henry) writes:
> >Well, the trivia night at the bar in our town decided to honor me with
> >another comics question again; and, once again, I was stumped.
> >
> >What was the name of Batman's dog?
> >
> >(the Joan Jett question decathalon I passed with no trouble, of course  
:-)
> >
> 
> Ace the Bathound, who wore a mask to PROTECT HIS SECRET IDENTITY!!!!!

This is the subject of the one panel that *always* cracks me up whenever I  
go back and read my Ambush Bug (AB#3).

Michael J. Winston
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From: picard@IASTATE.EDU (David B Roy)
Subject: Re: META: Re: RAC SPLIT: NO!!!
Reply-To: picard@IASTATE.EDU (David B Roy)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:05:07 GMT

I think Mike Rawdon said it best.  I read this group with no kill file and just
read the articles that have interesting subjects.  It takes me about 10-15
minutes to read it.  You can usually get an idea of what the subject is about by
reading the subject.  I'd oppose this split.

Dave Roy
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