HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: MDA telethons...
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:51:56 GMT

In article <RSHAPIRO.92Sep10150259@kariba.bbn.com>, rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:

> Not exactly. The notion of "Jerry's kids" applied to adults ("Jerry's
> kids of all ages") seems to suggest that the disease somehow robs
> these adults of their maturity. It's the equivalent of referring to an
> African-American man as a "boy". 

Hardly.  People are more inclined to react to children in distress than
to adults.  That's why appeals for money for famine relief in Africa
mostly feature shots of starving children.  That's why the environmental
groups emphasize health risks to children when they go after toxic
chemicals, such as when the NRDC went after the pesticide Alar.

> Adults with MD no doubt feel
> considerable disgust at the patronizing, belittling, pitying tone that
> the Lewis telethon takes towards them.

My local paper, the San Jose Mercury-News, has already published letters
from adult dystrophics declaring that the protesters don't speak for
them.  As with virtually every other identifiable social group in this
country *some* disabled have chosen to adopt the mentality of
an 18th-century duellist and look excuses to be insulted.
 
> Another issue is the Lewis approach of acting as though the lives of
> dystrophics (?) is worthless without a cure. People with disabilities
> have been fighting for some time now to explain what should be
> obvious: that their lives are as full and as valuable as anybody
> else's, disability or no. Cures are great, but the "uncured" deserve
> to live with dignity in any case. 

Who says the lives of the disabled are valueless?  What seems to be going
on is that some disabled want to deny the reality that a handicap
is a handicap, even if it means jeopardizing funding to find cures.
 
My general reaction is to say, "Suit yourself", and stop contributing.

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Xref: sparky rec.arts.tv:17574 alt.tv.northern-exp:243
eitan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: proposing rec.tv.northern-exposure
From: eitan@pashosh.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il (Shternbaum Eitan)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:56:28 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center


I'm proposing to create a rec.tv.northern-exposure for the sake of all
NEXP fans,
who are unable to read alt. newsgroups, we fans oughta stick together
:-) .

a) what do you think of the above ?

b) what is the proper procedure for doin' it ?


Fans of NEXP , UNITE !!! :-) ( i know , marx said it before ... )

Eitan Shterenbaum,

the founder and (currently) the single  member of the Israeli
northern-exposure fans club

:-)
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL & the Emmys: "We wuz robbed!"
Date: 5 Sep 92 08:20:56 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1992Sep3.162809.2341@nmt.edu> jmarlan@titan.nmt.edu (Jon Marlan) writes:
>Then again, the judges had ONLY ONE episode of LLoyd to scrutinize, while
>they had a whole season's worth to critique for many of the other nominees.

That's not how it works.  I believe actors submit a single episode, and are
supposed to be judged on that episode alone.  This isn't made apparent
during the award ceremony, though.  They give episode names for the writer
and director categories, since these positions generally aren't consistent
for a series (which is why one writer could be on two of the nominated
teams in the writing category), but don't bother for the acting categories.

Of course, we know that people aren't judged just on the submitted episode.
If the judges have watched the show, it's hard for them to ignore what
they've seen.  And don't forget that there's politics and biases
involved....
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: GTX -- Bull Durham Revisited?
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:50:33 GMT

Lets compare Susan Sarandon's character in Bull Durham (SS) to
             Dr Alice Davis in Going to Extremes (Dr)

SS - Sensual older blonde     Dr - Sensual Older Blonde
SS - Picks a ball player      Dr - Picks a med student
     every season to tutor         every year to tutor in sex
     in sex and baseball           and medicine
SS - Likes to read poetry     Dr - Likes to read Kipling to
     to her lovers                 her lovers
SS - Changes teams every few  Dr - Changes Medical Schools
     years                         every few years.

The similarities are amazing don't you think.

I wonder if Dr Davis's students will have to wear garter belts
under their surgical greens and learn to breath through their eyes. :)

If Brand and Falsey have to steal characters from popular movies,
at least give them credit for stealing one of the most interesting
female characters ever to grace the screen.
From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: LA Law psychic
Summary: Janni Brenn-Lowen
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:33:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Sep10.213346.9995
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

Someone wanted to know the name of the actress who played the psychic
on a last-season episode
of LA Law who went out & bought expensive goodies & enjoyed them on behalf
of the deceased wife of her client, at the client's expense of course,
because "the spirit of the wife had been deprived these goodies in life"
(nice work if you can get it).

Well, the name is Janni Brenn-Lowen, but that's not the half of it...

I was typing this answer in when my cherished (because I didn't have to
come in to work to use it) vt100 up & croaked itself;
it froze, which is not unusual, but on re-entry into e-space
a white line appeared center screen which swallowed up all the letters that
I typed into it, which letters appeared backwards & superimposed on each 
other anyway...then the whole screen scene, forward-printing prompts & spookily
echoed responses, faded gradually to gray...then a bad smell came out of
the back of the set...on my 2nd attempt to get back on the network,
strange clicking sounds resulted from switching the on switch...
do you think dead clients of tv characters are trying to communicate???
do you think laptops are going to go for cheap anytime soon???

My brother knew Janni Brenn back when that was her name, & thinks it 
unlikely that she was the voice of the computer in Logan's Run, which
I *THINK* was the 2nd question of the original poster...I can't find the
article, athough it wasn't posted long enough ago to be dropped off the
earth...she was 'a struggling Broadway actress' back when Logan was made
in California, but its not completely outside of the realm of possibility.
From: edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MIDDLE AGES
Date: 11 Sep 1992 10:52:50 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept. of Math.
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu


Who was the actor playing the whiz-kid student that came for the
audition?  Only a brief part, but I know I've seen him somewhere...

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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: The Avenger (NOT The Avengers!)
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:11:22 GMT


During the pulp era there was a published series by the pseudonym 
Kenneth Robeson called the Avenger.  I was wondering if anyone knew if there
was ever a film or TV series based on the series?  I am pretty sure there
have been similar series - the recent Human Target has a few of the ideas
present.  In the Avenger, after the loss of his family, the main character
discovered that his face had gone numb from the shock.  He was able to 
manipulate it into looking like other people .  This character had a band
of faithful followers (ala Doc Savage, Tom Swift, etc.) who possessed
various skills.
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From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Schoolhouse Rock
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:27:19 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <1992Sep11.131810.24153@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu) writes:
>Does anyone know the words to the Schoolhouse Rock for Interjections?
>The chorus is something on the order of:
>
>So when you're happy - Hooray!
>Or Sad - Ahhh!
>Or frightened -- eeek! 
 Or Mad - Rats!
 Or Excited - Wow!
 Or Glad - Yea!
An interjection starts the sentence right!

>
>I just need the chorus. Feel free to e-mail if you are embarassed
>to admit to having this knowledge.  Thanks.
Embarassed?  About Grammar Rock!  Indeed!

How else would I know the preamble to the Constitution if not for
Schoolhouse Rock!


Interjection, Shows excitement, or emotion, Hallelujah!
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From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: Re: TV station cutting credits
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:58:29 GMT

One of the things I hate most is when they cut the credits or (inevitable 
on network tv) the voice-overs when there's good music on during hte 
credits. Take the simpsons. I *HATE* hearing stupid ads, especially when 
I watch the simpsons in stereo w/headphones. And even worse, when it's a 
"special" ending, they still do it a lot of times (they didn't do it for 
the "Lisa it's your Birthday" song at the end of the Micheal Jackson one, 
but they did it for the 1st season one with Bleeding Gums Murphy playing 
jazz at the end).   I really hate this.   But what is absolutely 
unexcusable is when PAY tv starts to do this. We had cable for a while 
(about 8 months a year or two ago), and I noticed that HBO started doing 
VOICE OVERS at the end of their movies when they played in prime time! I 
have some of hem still on tape in fact, because people don't believe me. 
If I had taped the 2am showings, there are no voiceovers, but if you tape 
the 8pm movie showing, there would be voice overs. Not all the time, but 
if I'm paying money for this thing, I don7t want an ad. So I did the 
smart thing. I cancelled cable, happily cancelled HBO and bought a laser 
disc player.  Now if I want to see a movie or tape one for myself, I 
don7t waste all that money per month on HBO, I simply rent it for $1.50 
and I actually get a better looking picture than from cable. I live in So 
Calif, and have no problems with off-air reception (near LA area), and 
cable was always fuzzy with interference, and the sound was horrible 
(especially noticable with stereo tv and headphones). The only good thing 
about cable tv if you live in a part of the country where you have good 
recpeption anyway is CNN. The rest of the channels are just junkyards of 
repeats with way too many commercials.  And I can get BBS on shortwave or 
NPR on radio, or CNN reports on channels 5, 9, and 13 here which all get 
CNN feed.   I stopped wasting my money on cable.   And voice-overs from 
HBO was the straw that broke the back, so if anyone's reading this from 
HBO, you did this to yourself.
:::::Larry:::::
s

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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Covington Cross--A Review
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:48:28 GMT

>>Historical accuracy -- well, I didn't see any either, I kept making
>>comments to that effect the whole time. But I didn't go in expecting
>>any. I don't expect historical accuracy from TV in *any* period --
>>ancient, medieval, Renaissance, Wild West.

>A friend and I watched it together and did the same thing.  A lot
>of historical inaccuracies, but I was watching it to have fun,
>not to see an historical documentary.

Can't be historically accurate AND entertaining?  oh well, just
ignore the ramblings of an old (ALMOST 27) History major.... :> 
-- 
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From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Mary-thon comments
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:23:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

I just have a few quick comments after watching the first night of
Nick at Nite's Mary Tyler Moore marathon.

Good things:

1.  They're finally showing it! :-)
2.  The picture quality is much better than I've seen in years.
3.  Commericial breaks are in appropriate places, and they don't cut
pieces out of the show to put in more commericials.  I'd never seen the
first few seconds of the first episode before, because our local station
would always cut them out.

Bad things:

1.  They're not showing ALL the episodes.  Of course, we already knew
that.  Twenty-four episdodes were shown each season.  That means that
the Marython will miss eight episisodes from the first season (last
night), five episodes each from seasons two through six, and four episodes
from the seventh, and final, season.

I was particularly disappointed that they didn't show "The Boss Isn't
Coming To Dinner", because that episode is important for foreshadowing
the long storyline about Lou and Edie's separation, divorce, Edie's 
remarriage, and Lou's dates.

2.  Although each night will feature episodes from a single season, the
episodes are not being shown in order -- at least, not so far.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov


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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: **MIDDLE AGES**
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:20:50 GMT

In article <92247.133711BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
> F I N A L L Y, a show for baby-boomers, "Middle Ages"
> airs tonight, 8 pm on ch. 5.  "Thirty-something" was
> a great show for "them" and now it is OUR turn...

YEAH!!!!!!


Gayle 'feelin' old' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
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From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Quantum Leap "Star Crossed"
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:22:37 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

I finally have "Star Crossed" on tape!  And it reminded me why I was
hoping they got Teri Hatcher to play Donna in the future, too.  Oh well.

<minor spoiler>

But, did they cut out the ending?  Sam was coming down the stairwell,
and Al is taunting him that Donna will marry her first fiancee before
she ever meets Sam.  Then, suddenly Ziggy figures out the Watergate
connection, Al goes crazy, and Sam leaps.  But, in last night's
version, Al taunts Sam, they switch scenes to the car, and Sam leaps.

Grrr!  Watergate was the first "kiss with history," and they cut "half
of the kiss".

There is a remote possibility that it carried over to "Right Hand of
God," but I seem to remember Al's hysterics taking place in the
stairwell.

Agitator
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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: 2000 Malibu Rd. Is it really over? Who dunnit? Other misc. crap
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:35:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.145812.20482@watson.ibm.com>, lutz@shredder.raleigh.ibm.com (Dave Lutz) writes:
> 
>   I *loved* seeing Joy get some of her own.  I don't think I've ever 
> despised a tv character so much in my life.  I was *thrilled* to see her 
> fall victim to her karmic justice.
> 
> Dave Lutz                              internet: dave_lutz@vnet.ibm.com
> 

Does anyone have a copy of this episode?  I would be willing to pay
for mailing, etc.


Gayle 'feelin' old' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
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From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Southern Comforts (possible spoiler)
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:15:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1957isINN3lv@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein) writes:
>
>>I was reading over the quantum leap episode guide and in the description
>>of the episode "Southern Comforts" it says:
>

>
>>"[Sam has] to prevent the death of a resident who doesn't belong there.
>>Ziggy is no help as the young lady dies under mysterious circumstances."
>
>I think it means that Ziggy is no help in telling WHEN or HOW she
>dies.  So, if Sam knows that Jane Doe is going to die at 10:00
>Wednesday night on the corner of 1st & 2nd, Sam can make sure that
>she's not on the corner at 10:00.  But if Ziggy can't tell Sam WHEN or
>HOW, then Sam has to figure it out all by himself.

The problem with your explanation is that the guide clearly states that
the girl dies, not just that Ziggy is no help and that Sam has to stop
her from dying.

However, a later poster says he'll check the episode tonight and maybe
update the guide.  So tomorrow we'll know for sure.


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Subject: Daktari On TNT: Info Or Guide Needed
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:29:38 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

Since most people are back from vacation....

I was looking this summer (and still looking) for information about Daktari.  I
needed to know the show years, number of seasons, cast, number of shows, and
miscelaneous other things.

Is there an episode guide for it?  If not, could you please email me the info ?

Thanx!

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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: Marython
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:39:49 CDT

In article <1992Sep14.145701.11764@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers) writes:
>I know that the Mary Tyler Moore show was very popular when it aired originally, but I never remember seeing it in syndication.
>Was the MTM show ever syndicated before now.  I think that I read someplace 
>that it was one of the few show not to be syndicated for some reason.  Is this
>true or did I grow up in an area that didn't feel the need to air the show.
>
>Thanks,
>			---Mark
>

Isn't it one of the most syndicated shows in T.V. history?  I see it all the
time...

Jeff
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From: eliz@WORLD.STD.COM (Elizabeth Lear Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: "Quantum Leap "Genesis"
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:29:55 GMT


 rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>So now that "Genesis" will be running cut (presumably) on USA this
>Sunday, does that mean the end of the "Genesis chain letter" tape
>list?  Speaking of which, is this still going?  It was announced over
>a year ago!

It's still going, I think (I hope).  I sent out 4 tapes in July of
1991, each with a list of ~25 people in a specific area of North
America for circulation.  I got periodic updates every few months, but
I have no idea where they are now.  The idea was that each person
would have it for a week or so, then send it on.  I'm quite
disappointed that some people kept it for *months* before sending it
to the next person, and I have not heard anything about any of the
tapes for at least 4 months now.

I'm *glad* USA is airing "Genesis", because people further down the
lists will _finally_ have a chance to see the show.

If you have one of these tapes, either send it to the next person or
(better yet) send it back to me.  I'd appreciate it.

						..eliz
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MTV Awards and Ice-T and CENSORSHIP!
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:59:13 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <7wxnlk+@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
<mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy) writes:
<
<> Thanks alot MTV...yeah..toot you non-censorship horn only whne it's
<> conveinnnannt!!  I was iritated... 
<
<But not surprised, I hope.  They've cut all *kinds* of things out of the
<1992 Awards for the reruns.  Flea's blowjob routine, for one . . .

Another reason to tape the first airing.
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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: Home Improvement address?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:23:55 GMT

In article <p_mnk9.derich@netcom.com>, derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink) writes:
>  i I'm seeking address to write to writers of "Home Improvement" cuz I
>   have an idea or two to help make it entertaining.
> 
> - Scott
> 

You don't think it's entertaining??  I think it's great!!  I really 
liked the one last night about 'reading instructions' - when he said
real men don't read instructions!  I tease my hubby about that all the
time, unfortunately he wasn't home to see the show.


Gayle 'feelin' old' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
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