HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Subject: Re: Do SPOILERS Really Work???
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:18:51 GMT

In article <9212230103.AA19893@heartland.bradley.edu_> tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu writes:
>
>
>> As has already been pointed out, spoilers are not effective below 100 mph
>> and since its illegal in the US to travel above 65 mph you might as well
>> strip them off and save some fuel.
> 
>The rear spoiler that mounts on 1983 and newer Firebirds produced 
>a measurable reduction in drag coefficient by smoothing the 
>airflow over the rear of the car.  That would be something that 
>would affect CAFE numbers at highway speeds.
> 
>I have a 1988 Dodge Lancer Shelby with spoiler mounted above the 
>rear window at the tail of the roof, like the Supra.  I ran coast 
>down time tests from 110 mph with and without the spoiler and was 
>not able to discern any difference.  It is still on the car, 
>however, because my wife likes its looks.
>--
>                                    Terry Quinn

I thought that thing that hung over the window of a Supra was a sun shade.
Could the one on the Lancer also be a sun shade and not a spoiler?

Anyway, someone earlier mentioned the reduced lift on a 911 at 100 mph
(from 130 to 10 pounds, I think, implying the wing added down force of
120 pounds).  Note that the down force generated by a wing/spoiler of a 
particular design is a cubic function of its velocity through the air.
So, at a more realistic 50 mph, the added downforce would be 15 pounds.
At 65 mph, it would be around 33 pounds.  So, at legal speeds, the wing
would do very little.  Of course, the lift created by the car would be
similarly small as well.  The real function of these wings is for driving
at extremely high speeds, which we can't legally do in the US.  So my
opinion would be that wings are, for the most part, useless at providing
down force in "normal" driving.

Chin spoilers, on the other hand, have been shown to be effective at
keeping air from getting under the car.  This can effectively help
prevent lift at high speeds.  They may or may not directly contribute
to down force or drag, since the air that is deflected away from under
the car will not have a chance to drag on underbody components.  So a
well designed chin spoiler could reduce net drag, while also reducing
net lift.

eyc
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"T'is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness"
But t'is so much easier to curse the darkness.
From: hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: '91 Eagle Talon
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:39:25 GMT
Reply-To: hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

i am an owner, and i was just wondering.... .has anyone had trouble with this
car?  

my transmission seems to stick more than on other cars i've driven, AND my
cruise control is broken for the SECOND TIME (the car has just a little over
32K on it).  AND at notchy higher speeds (around 70), the steering wheel
vibrates some.

anyone else have similar experience?

hiro.ruo@clemsonsc.ncr.com

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: RZAA80@email.sps.mot.com (Jim Chott)
Subject: Re: CB Walkie-Talkie
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Motorola SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:06:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.170739.9525@colorado.edu>, bowmanj@csn.org (Jerry
Bowman) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Dec24.031003.23366@news.columbia.edu> walsh@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Edward E Walsh) writes:
> >I want to buy a 40 Channel CB Walkie-Talkie that could also be used in
> >a car.  Can anyone give me recommendations on any brand/model and features?
> >Are there any mail-order outfits?  Radio Shack has this model TRC-222 on sale
> >for $70.  However, it only has 2.5 watt RF output.  Is this sufficient? 
> >Has anyone heard of a brand called "Mid Land"?  Is it a reputable brand?
> >Any info is greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Gower
>   I haven't messed with CB radios for some time, but  Midland used to be
> considered one of the best.

I've got a Midland 23 Channel from about 1976(?) that I still use and
it works well.  I also bought a 40 channel Midland in 1989 which failed
after a couple months.  They replaced it under warranty and my brother
has used it since without problem.

Jim Chott                            85 Toyota 4WD pickup
rzaa80@email.sps.mot.com             72 LeMans Sport Convertible
Tempe, Arizona
From: tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: BOUGHT A 93 CIVIC LX
Date: 30 Dec 1992 10:03:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

>Honda dealers on the average, act quite snooby, thinking that they are
>selling BMW's, Jaguar's, or something like that.  And now this leads me
>to have to say something about the Bimmer dealers being stuck up.  Some
>are and some aren't.  But heck, they have a reason to, they are selling
>a premier car, not a Honda!!  As for the Acura dealers, I've had much
>better experience with them compared to the Honda dealers.  I think
>Honda needs to take a some lessons from Acura (even though Honda is the
>owner of Acura!).
---------------------------------------------------

	yup, the acura line is certainly much better than honda's.
	the thing about bmw dealer being stuck-up -- i just think
	that BMW is not a premier car, all the people i know advise
	me not to get a BMW because it has too many problems -- the
	problems that can not be solved easily or ever. it's scary.
	no BMW for me, i'd prefer an acura LeGeND. /tt300zx@u.washington.edu

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From: ayers@adobe.com (Robert Ayers)
Subject: For the Record: Audi versus the press
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:51:07 GMT

For the record: the reason that the Audi's experienced "sudden
acceleration" was that the drivers shifted the auto into drive 
while holding down the accelerator with their right foot.

After much media attention, that was the official verdict of the 
NHSA (or whatever the acronym is for the US gvmt agency).

Sixty Minutes lied about the Audi.  They put on deliberately faked 
"test" footage.  In fact, they got caught.  But so what?  Sixty
Minutes is produced by the ABC *entertainment* division.  What
counts are ratings.  The "expose" got them the ratings.  They
also created the great Alar scare; that got them good ratings too.

"Believe nothing of what you read and only half of what you see"
Mark Twain

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: pcw@flutter.tv.tek.com (Patrick C. Wilkins)
Subject: AUTOMOTIVE PARTS
Organization: Tektronix TV Products
Distribution: pnw
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:50:36


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From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Car phones
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:25:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Helen Keller Bondurant's Performance Driving School for the Blind

In article <102651@netnews.upenn.edu> tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik) writes:
>My wife wants a car phone for Christmas.
>Is there a FAQ on these?

On wives, or on car phones?            [-:


--
Alan Denney      aland@informix.com      {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland
  Smith and Wesson: the Ultimate Point-and-Click User Interface.
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From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: J. D. Powers Survey: The 5+ Years of Ownership Experience
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
	<STXTNT.92Dec28110208@rs733.GSFC.NASA.Gov>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:26:46 GMT

    You can determine where a Honda is made from checking the vin I think.
    Japanese assembled Hondas have a J prefix.  You can also (according to
    a service manager :) check the number of tie wraps on wiring.
    American assembled Hondas have fewer tie wraps than the same car
    assembled in Japan.  It saves money but rattles more.

In a similar vein I hear that US-assembled Toyotas have far more
defects than Japan-assembled ones.  Anyone know more about this?
From: neff@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Robert Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Anti-Lock Brakes makes stopping SAFER?
Followup-To: rec.autos
Date: 30 Dec 1992 17:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

In article <1285@xlnt.COM> david@elwood.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.191605.14136@admin.kth.se>, palm@admin.kth.se (Christer Palm) writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec28.162405.24087@ncar.ucar.edu> cbh@windsurf.scd.ucar.edu (Cris Hannu) writes:
>|> >In article <1haiiaINNanq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ce423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Josh Lackey III) writes:
>|> 
>|> All ABS systems monitor all wheels or the vehicle. 
>
>Not true, at least not of some of the earlier systems.  I remember
>hearing in 1989 that some minivans only had rear wheel ABS.
>IMO, it was only offered so the marketing people can put a check
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in the box in ads that said ABS is available.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>-- 
>David Johnson
>XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
>david@xlnt.com

I disagree.  On trucks and particularly FWD minivans, 
where there may be a wide variation of weight on the 
rear axel, it is difficult to get the right amount of braking 
power to the rear wheels.  By using ABS on the rear, you can get 
the maximum possible braking from the rear wheels, regardless of the 
cargo weight in the vehicle.  What actually happens is that the driver
brakes until the front wheels start to skid, and the rear wheels never
lock up.  This is better than the alternatives, in which the rear
wheels lock prematurely, and either the rear end swings around or 
the driver must let up on the brakes and goes headlong (or taillong)
over the cliff...

(BTW, there are mechanical weight sensing proportioning valves which 
try to prevent this, but the ABS system actually eliminates the need 
for these.)

-- Robert
From: wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 81 fiat spider, i think my control box is hosed!
Date: 25 Dec 92 06:46:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: a2i network

If anyone can help...

My '81 fiat spider 2000 (fuel injection) had a problem with the fuel pump.
(then it gets really wierd...)

No power to the fuelpump...so at the advice of a mechanic, i bypassed a 
relay box, and got power to the pump. It hummed, but it didn't pump gas!
ok. so i replace the fuel pump, and still using the bypassed wire, the 
new pump works great.

So i start my car. Vroom it goes for a while (30secs), so i shut it off so
i can go to work tightening the pump brackets etc...
I lower the car and now it doesn't start!
i'm getting gas at the engine end. (at the fuel regulator)

Now what?!
how can i check the injectors? 
could my FI control box be screwed?
If it is screwed, how much is a new one?
lots n lots of wires go into this control box. Is it just one of those 
"its broke so replace it" parts? (an inside inspection revealed no obvious
problems)

thanks for the help!!!

-- 
Timothy Wilson <wilsont@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bowmanj@csn.org (Jerry Bowman)
Subject: Re: CB Walkie-Talkie
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, OCS
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:07:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.031003.23366@news.columbia.edu> walsh@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Edward E Walsh) writes:
>I want to buy a 40 Channel CB Walkie-Talkie that could also be used in
>a car.  Can anyone give me recommendations on any brand/model and features?
>Are there any mail-order outfits?  Radio Shack has this model TRC-222 on sale
>for $70.  However, it only has 2.5 watt RF output.  Is this sufficient? 
>Has anyone heard of a brand called "Mid Land"?  Is it a reputable brand?
>Any info is greatly appreciated.
>
>Gower
  I haven't messed with CB radios for some time, but  Midland used to be
considered one of the best.>
From: rpalmer@Think.COM (Ralph Palmer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: When did these models switch to Fuel Injection?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 16:10:39 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: basie.think.com

Thanks to all who posted on my request for suggestions on a $1500 
car.  I would like another data point.  In 1980 most cars used carbs,
in 1990 most use fuel injection.  I *used* to think that carbs were 
more reliable that FI but that was before they started sticking about
a zillion vaccuum hoses on carbs.  I would prefer a FI car, and even
I can look under the hood and tell the difference.  You would be 
amazed at the number of people I've called that don't know.  I especially
need help with the GM cars.  I'm leaning towards a GM monster station wagon
Please help fill out the list:

Car				carb-fi switch
Ford Escort			85(1/2)
VW rabbit			80?
Ford LTD II/Crown Vic  		86?
Chevy Caprice V8
Chevy Celebrity 2.8L V6
Plymouth Reliant/Dodge Aspen

Also how did GM share V6 and V8 engines between the division in the
years 82-86?

					Thanks
					Ralph Palmer
From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:49:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Bought a 93 Civic LX 4-door....(long post)
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.autos

In rec.autos, qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi) writes:

[civic stuff deleted]

    --And, on top of it all, you could have bought a superior car from a dealer
      that is DYING to sell you a Legacy for $12,000, instead of dealing with
      a bunch of snotty Honda salespeople that you have to wrestle with to get
      the Civic for $12,000.

don't know about the soob (haven't driven one yet), but fully agree about the
honda dealers.  over here, no test drive until you've paid up and signed the
papers (then you can test drive it all you want :-)).  you wanna test the car 
b4 buying?  sure, we'll start it up and you can listen to the smooth idle.  
needless to say, i walked.

lawrence
From: antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock)
Subject: Re: Saturn's Allegedly "Noisy" Engine
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:46:55 GMT

I thought that some of the first saturns had a buzzing sound caused by some 
type of engine bracket. The problem was solved right away by using a different
mount.

					-ks

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jdt@ulysses.att.com (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd])
Subject: Re: LH test-drive results (by a buyer)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:55:44 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@ulysses.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ

In article <1992Dec30.072019.26514@cbnews.cb.att.com>, jrs@cbnews.cb.att.com (jeff.sherota) writes:

|> >so hard to buy American?
|> 
|> Arthur,
|> 
|> I believe the Chrysler LH cars are built in Canada.  True they are built in
|> North America, but that's still not quite the same as being built in the U.S.A.

Not for long.  I believe the Canadian plant was making Eagle Premiers
and Dodge Monacos.  I *did* read that the LHs will be built in Dover
Delaware in the near future.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mellum@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: Re: Anti-Lock Brakes makes stopping SAFER?
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:22:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.191605.14136@admin.kth.se>, palm@admin.kth.se (Christer Palm) writes:
> All ABS systems monitor all wheels or the vehicle. 
> 
Chevy and GMC trucks are rear wheel only ABS.

Ron
From: kemasa@ghost.hac.com (Kemasa)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Impact is DEAD [was: Electric Vehicles]
Keywords: electric battery car vehicle solar
Date: 26 Dec 92 06:56:54 GMT
Organization: Natural Order Nature Experiments (N.O.N.E.)

In article <1992Dec25.173140.5022@hawk.cs.ukans.edu> stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs) writes:
>Yes, I think the gas car can't be totally replaced with the electric
>car, but they could be a good supplement for short errands/commutes,
>etc.  There might have to be some infrastructure in place, battery
>exchange stations, plugs on parking meters, etc., before people 
>will trust them enough to use them a lot. I think they will have
>there place some day. There have been some made with 40mile/40mph
>capability that might be suitable for these uses without hightech,
>high-dollar batteries.  Those typically use 4-6 golf cart batteries,
>and last forever, except for those batteries that have to be replaced
>everyfew years. There is essentially zero fuel cost, typically less
>than a penny per mile. Just pump air into the tires and charge it
>daily.  Think of that the next time you pop $20K for a gas car
>that will wear out in 4-8 years.

I have heard about a guy in the LA area who has a converted Honda CRX
which does over 60 mph (I think he limited the top end to about 70
because of a problem in the rotor casting) and does around 100 miles
per recharge.  The car jumped off the dyno when it was tested. It can
use regular batteries, but he uses the starved electrolyte batteries
(Gates technology, Optima Batteries). From what I have heard about the
car it is quite interesting. He has done work on the GM cars (he did
not work for GM as far as I know) and his power controler is supposed
to be quite unique and work very well, but he has been ignored by the
American companies. Some Japanese have been interested though. If you
were to add high tech batteries you might get something which has
a much longer range. The current battery replacement schedule is
something like every 3000 miles due to the decreasing storage capacity.
-- 



						 Kemasa.

Insanity is the best defense.

NRA Life Member/Certified Instructor	Sierra Club I-rated Leader
		Pro-freedom		Pro-choice

e-mail address: kemasa@ghost.hac.com
From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: CAMRY V6 performance numbers
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:19:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: root@acpy01.att.com's message of 22 Dec 92 21:37:42 GMT
bcc: carl


>"CAMRY V6 performs better then Lexus ES300, BMW525..." and some others
>in acceleration, braking, handling etc.
>The numbers were: .84g for handling, 8.6 for 0-60mph etc.

How can the Camry V6 perform better than the Lexus ES300 when they're
it's basically a clone.  Does it have different suspension components?
I know that engine is identical so how can acceleration be different?

When looking for a car I drove both the Camry and the Maxima SE and
IMO it's no contest, the Maxima is FAR FAR ahead.  That added with the
obnoxious attitude of toyota dealers around here made we run (not
walk) away from several of the toyota (and lexus) showrooms.

-Carl-
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From: Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: emblems, names and m
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 23 Dec 92  08:46:02


 > dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer) writes:
 > : Nissan - "It's time to expect more from a car" or
 > :          "It's time to expect more from a minivan"
 > 
 > Nissan - "Built for the human race"

 > : 
 > : Anybody want to add more to the list?
 > : -- 
 > : dwjz@bnr.ca    Disclaimer: my opinions only

   Datsun - "The name is Nissan."





... Larry.Mc.Donald, N6ZMB, Fullerton, California!  <cough, cough>
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: mdennie@beryllium.mc.xerox.com (Matt Dennie)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Advertising fee and holdback for Probe
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:56:59 GMT
Reply-To: mdennie@beryllium.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation

In article 1ho8mvINN2of@agate.berkeley.edu, shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:

[ ... stuff deleted ... ]

>stock and do not have any on order.  of course, i wasn't exactly 
>dressed like i was going to buy a car there and then so i can understand 
>their unwillingness to provide me with one.  but i'm curious as to who 
>pays for those brochures.
>
>
>-- 
>=============================================================================
>| David Shy                |  "You know anything about Windoze?", "Sure I   |
>| shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu  |  know OS/2", "No, Windows!", "Oh, Warbage!",   |
>| shyguy@soda.berkeley.edu |  "No, Windows, the OS", "Micro$oft has an OS?" |
>=============================================================================

Does this "not dressed to buy a car" thing bother anyone else.  I have money.
It`s as green as anyone else`s (at least in the US).  Any car dealer that
treats my lousy cause they think I`m "not dressed to buy a car" doesn`t get 
my money.

I ought to point out that I understand I cannot be filthy if I expect a dealer
to let me drive a new car around that he`s got to sell sooner or later.

---
--Matt Dennie                              Internet: mmd.wbst207v@xerox.com
Xerox Corporation, Rochester, NY (USA)
"Reaching consensus in a group often
 is confused with finding the right answer."  -- Norman Maier
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: alan@ctsx.celtech.com (Alan Dahl)
Subject: Looking for Ford Sierra owners
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:04:20 GMT
Organization: cts

I just purchased an '88 Merkur XR4Ti (Ford Sierra XR4) and I'm
looking for Ford Sierra owners in England or wherever to correspond
with.

I'm looking for sources of performance and non-US spec parts. Parts here
in the US are not always easy to come by and are very expensive when
they are available.

One specific part I'm looking for is a UK speedometer (well, just the face
actually). Here in the US the cars came with 85 MPH speedometers. But
instead of making a new speedo they just changed the face so that
all the numbers above 85 are missing, but the tick marks are still
there!

Since it is a little hard to have to count tick marks at speeds over
85 (not that I would *ever* do such speeds :-) I'm looking to replace
the speedo face with the face from a UK 150mph speedometer from a
wrecking yard or such.

I'm also looking for books, manuals, sales brochures, etc. There doesn't
seem to be much information available on this side of the pond.

For those of you in the US: I have nothing but good things to say about
the folks at Rapido in Portland, Oregon. They have been very helpful and
consistantly beat the prices at my local L-M dealer on new parts.

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