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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Convince me to stick with Atari.
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:36:54 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:

> I'd like to hear some arguments convincing me to stay with a sinking
> ship, Atari.
> 
 
 Chris,
 
 Having just read you last few posts and on how you are going to OS/2
 
                         WHY BOTHER to convince you!
 
 Many of us are in the same boat as you but STill love our Atari computers
 and will do anything to see them here in the years to come. Unlike 
 yourself if the tones of your previous poSTs are anything to go by.
 
 So in conclusion, think not what Atari can do for Chris but what has
 Chris done for Atari (BIG GRIN-)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rosenqui@ncs.dnd.ca (E. Rosenquist)
Subject: Re: STalker vs Uniterm?
Keywords: STalker Uniterm
Organization: Software Kinetics Limited
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:08:17 GMT

In article <H.eg.q4N1hyyCVtE@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) writes:
>In <1993Jan7.141838.18899@netcom.com> yonder@netcom.com (Christopher Russell) writes:
>
>
>>One thing that I would like to know about Stalker is if it will allow
>>me to have a 49 line screen like I use in Uniterm... this is essential
>>for me (not I have a mono monitor).
>
>	This is the one thing STalker seems to get wrong. I tried a smaller
>GDOS font in STalker to try to get more line/columns on screen, but
>STalker just shrinks it's window down to 80 col/24 line. I tried to mail
>Eric about this, but it seems he no longer has Usenet access.

Just use the Preferences dialog to change the number of lines/columns
in the scrollback buffer.

Eric
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: heraud@boole (HERAUD pascal)
Subject: Re: Demo-makers
Organization: University of Grenoble (France)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:15:35 GMT

ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger) writes:

>Are there any Demo-maker programs for the ST?  I know that a few exist 
>for the Amiga (just by reading thru COMP.SYS.AMIGA.DEMOS), but I don't 
>own an Amiga.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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>                                                        |  - Roy Batty |
>                                                        ================


I don't know if there is a lot of demo makers but,in france there was one edited
called DCK ,these programm was a good one (but you can install it on a Hard drive ).
It features a lot of scrolllings , rasters animations , sound drivers , starfields ,
overscans(low and top border), musix (soundchip and soundtrackers).Then the name is DCK
which means DEMO CONSTRUCTION KIT  ....
Pascal.


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C U L8ER with falcon!!!!!!!
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Convince me to stick with Atari.
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:53:59 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <1993Jan11.115159@cs.bham.ac.uk> dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley) writes:
>From the sound of some of the comments I'd be inclined to think it was a small
>group of fanatics who would not like to see MORE users.

If you're not willing to adhere vehemently to the Atari Party Line,
they don't want you.  Rah-rah, better Dead than Red!  Don't think that
writing a megabyte of free software, or providing techincal support to
a dozen Atarians a day (hi BobR, can you tell me how to install XYZ?)
will help you either.

Dave Baggett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: er9s@Virginia.EDU (Ernest  Runyon)
Subject: Spectre GCR *NEW* for sale
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:43:48 GMT

NEW Spectre GCR version 3.0, never used, just pluged in and
tested. Asking  $250.00 Call 804-985-8112.
From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Last time on this one
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:20:39 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <1993Jan8.151744.16471@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
> Uh, Ken... Did you ever think that maybe Darek built the Gemulator in order
> to try to make a few bucks?  I think perhaps you are giving him too much
> credit for his "evil, wicked, mean and nasty" reputation.  :)

Well, sure, but sounds like a small market to me. I think it seemed like
a double-edged sword, hurt Atari and make money doing it.  :-}

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From: evilandi@vnet.ibm.com (Andrew Oakley)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:18:15 GMT
Subject: Tracker Music within GFA/STOS, how?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st

In <1993Jan7.121330.2671@dct.ac.uk>, <mcsdc1ph@dct.ac.uk> writes:

:Does anyone know of a routine which will allow tracker music to be played
:from within GFA basic, and/or STOS?

:Is it merely a question of know the proper locations within the tune code,
:or will I need a specific player routine with in the basic code?

   There is a PD extension called STOSTRAK (aka STOS TRACKER) by Francios
Lionet which allows you to play AMOS .ABK tracker files from STOS. Included
in the package is a converter from Noisetracker .MOD to AMOS .ABK.

   The extension adds several commands to STOS Basic, and includes the
relevant compiler extensions, too.

   The quality of playback is severely reduced if you want to do other things
at the same time (eg. scroller, sprites etc.), but hey, you can't have
everything.

   This is available from most UK PD libraries; I know Goodmans have it for
sure, 'cos I wrote the text file for them!

   Anyone needing help with the STOS tracker should contact me, as I have a
fair degree of experience with it (check out my Budgie progs).

Andrew Oakley <evilandi@vnet.ibm.com> (JANET: <evilandi@com.ibm.vnet>)
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From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ADVOCACY: How to Survive the Flame Wars (READ ME)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 03:42:02 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu
Keywords: advocacy

OK folks, since there's been almost as much bitching about the bitching
as there has been about anything else, I'd like to suggest a minor
modification to our posting behavior that I think will save us all
some grief.  (This will probably seem like an insane fit of
reasonableness on my part to some of you.)

I propose that from now on any message in this group that's 
predominantly about the virtues or flaws of a personal computer (Atari
or otherwise), or about a personal computer company, should have
the word "ADVOCACY" in the the title.  That way people who don't want
to read such posts can kill them, and people who do won't be bothered
by all the annoying bitching about the bitching.  :)

NOTE: This will only work if you do it.  (This means you too, BobR!)  :)
Take care to remove the ADVOCACY keyword from "normal" followups, too,
since some people will immediately kill everything that has even
the SMELL of advocacy in it.  :)

Creating an advocacy group will take at least 6 months.  While I think
it would be a good idea to have one, I'm not about to volunteer to run
the vote.  Could some kind victim ... I mean, volunteer get the courage
up to do it?

Dave Baggett
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From: cstadge@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G R Douglas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Emailing STFormat
Date: 12 Jan 1993 12:28:50 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

Ok, If anyone reading this wants to know how to email that great bastion of UK
ST magazines - going down hill a bit recently though - you can email them at
their compuserve account by emailing to 

100012.2571@compuserve.com

They may even print your letter - (they never print mine) - I don't know if
they can do a conventional email reply though

	-Giles
From: m91der@tdb.uu.se (Daniel Eriksson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GNU ZIP v0.6 ported to Atari
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:59:24 GMT
Organization: Uppsala university, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I've just finished a quick and dirty port of the latest GNU ZIP (v0.6).
You will find it at atari.archive in the near future, and at ftp.uni-kl.de
when you read this (/pub/atari/archivers/gzip06st.zoo). It looks like
FSF will use GNU ZIP instead of COMPRESS in the future in the GNU-project.
That means a LOT of people will start using it fairly soon, so why not be
one of them? :-) Anyway, GNU ZIP does compress a lot better and it will
eventually support the immensly popular PKZIP-format (from the PC-world).
It already suports multiple-file archives (something COMPRESS never did).
For more information on what is planned for future GNU ZIP-releases please
take a look at the TODO-file in the original source-distribution (see below).

In the archive you will find two different executables. One that should
run fine under for example MinixFS (called gzip_xfs.ttp) and one that
I compiled so that it shouldn't use symbolic links, multiple dot-filenames
or try to change the owner of the file (called gzip_tos.ttp since I
believe there's a small chance it will work on a normal TOSFS). Neither
of the two programs has been tested _without_ MiNT installed, so if you
try to run them from plain old TOS you might run into big problems. The
two executables has been built by GCC v2.3.1 PL1 with MiNTlibs PL25 (if
anyone is interested :-).

You will also find the original README file, the COPYING file, a small
document describing GNU ZIP and the makefile I used when building GNU
ZIP on the Atari. The original source-distribution can be found at your
local gnu-ftp-site or at prep.ai.mit.edu as /pub/gnu/gzip-0.6.tar.Z. In
the source-distribution you will also find a couple of shell-scripts that
could come in handy when dealing with packed files. There's also some more
documentation concerning the algorithm and a man-page.

Share and enjoy!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Stalker vs Uniterm!
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:56:44 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <7JAN93.12374686@cc4.crl.aecl.ca>, csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
>I used Uniterm for years and then moved to STalker when I
>switched to a TT with a 19" monitor. As I write, I have
>a window open with 55 lines and about 200 columns using
>a standard 10 point font (STalker lets you choose fonts).
>
>The only complaints I have heard about STalker is it runs
>in a window and on an SM124 at 640x400 one line is lost
>for terminal use; with some applications this is critical.
>

I had a lown of Stalker to see what I thought of it, the chap that owns it
rated it some %100, so far its say -%100 with me, does not do vt100, and will
not work with remote EMACS...no ^W or ^@...

Also I had paging problems when connected to a BBS with ANSI...

I did here about some one raving about Connect, he was dnloading file
on one Port and was chatting on GEnie with the other..

Please try these program, well Stalker be for you pay out $$$$, there is a Demo
of Stalker 3 and Connect can be got from most FTP sites...

May be we should all wait for THE STORM...???



Roger...............           sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Editor???
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:18:27 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley) writes:

> In article <4BL0AWR@math.fu-berlin.de>
> hohmuth@freia.sax.de (Michael Hohmuth) writes:
>  
> >In article <1993Jan7.142811.20499@fwi.uva.nl>, storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C
> >
> >> I'm currently looking for a good editor for my atari.
> >
> >There are a few good ones around in the Shareware market.
> >Look for QED, 7Up, xEdit.
> >
>  
> Hi!
>  
> Take a look at ftp.tu-clausthal.de (either via anonymous FTP or via email
> to mail-server@ftp.tu-clausthal.de)...
>  
> anonymous FTP:
 
 There is always "VIX.TTP" the ST version of VI.  It is great if you 
 like vi and it is Public Domain (free).
 
 (I do not know where to find it bar GEnie and my BBS)


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From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcons suck!
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 09 Jan 93 09:54:28 GMT

Original to: martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de
In a message of <24 Dec 92 11:39:53>, martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de
(3:713/602) writes:

 >> The A500 has a 75% 6-month mortality rate.
 >> 
 >> Sorry.  I don't buy suicidal computers.
 m> 
 m> Suicidal? I thought they die in terrible agony :-)

Yes they do, when I and my trusty chainsaw get to them... but I generally
can't be bothered travelling all that distance for such short gratification.

\`miff`                                                       /|\

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From: evilandi@vnet.ibm.com (Andrew Oakley)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:03:06 GMT
Subject: Short flashy STOS routines required
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech

   I would like to gather any short (ie. less than 10 lines) STOS basic
routines which create special effects- visual or audio. You know, those
quirky little lines of code which you knock together, and then can find
absolutely no use for.

   The routines are needed for my very last ST game, as I intend to get
myself a Falcon ASAP. After a long and somewhat distorted discussion with
two game magazine reviewer friends at The Raven Inn, Bridgnorth (where
girls are real girls and boys are real girls, too), we came up with the
concept for the WORST game EVER...

   PRO INTERNATIONAL WHELK SIMULATOR 2000 PLUS ("SimWhelk" for short)

   In order to compensate for the inevitably limited nature of the actual
gameplay (aim of the game: not to fall off the rock), much of the program
will be given over to a demo.

   This game will be released either through Budgie UK licenceware or as
Public Domain sometime before autumn, and will be written in STOS.

   Contributions on this forum or direct by email please (preferably
both!). Cheers in advance for anyone who contributes; you will get a heavy
mention in the scroller!

Andrew Oakley <evilandi@vnet.ibm.com> (JANET: <evilandi@com.ibm.vnet>)
IBM Warwick, UK (I speak FROM IBM, not FOR IBM)    UK Tel. 0926 464830
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From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Editor???
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:32:19 GMT
Reply-To: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc., ISD

In article <1993Jan7.142811.20499@fwi.uva.nl> storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C. Storm (I89)) writes:
>I'm currently looking for a good editor for my atari.
>It has to save in ascii unlike 1st word does. If anybody
>knows which editor is good for that and where I can get it, I 
>will appreciate your help greatly.`
>
>
>Richard
>
>P.S. Or if anybody has a small programm to convert 1st word plus files
>to ascii files :-)

I don't understand the problem.  The editor I use for ASCII files IS 1st Word!
Am I missing something?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Last time on this one
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:17:44 GMT

In article 3943@isgtec.isgtec.com, ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:
>
>Anyone who still thinks Gemulator is being made to convert millions
>of IBM worshippers over to the wonderful Atari software base needs
>some psychiatric care. He's doing it to hasten the Atari nosedive.
>For the record, I still like the ST (actually the STe) a lot, for
>several reasons, and have no wish for Atari to go under. Darek it
>seems definitely wants them to go under.

Uh, Ken... Did you ever think that maybe Darek built the Gemulator in order
to try to make a few bucks?  I think perhaps you are giving him too much
credit for his "evil, wicked, mean and nasty" reputation.  :)

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From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon030 competes with '486dx-33
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:58:18 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dan Cable (dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
OS/2> You might want to just wander over to the OS2 newsgroups and look around
OS/2> before getting one of the Zeos systems that you were quoting the prices
OS/2> of. That operating system wants lots of memory, lots of harddisk and lots
OS/2> of CPU speed. There are also problems with certain video boards and other
OS/2> perpherals (especially SCSI stuff). That, unfortunately, is one of the
OS/2> problems that you get with open architecture.

That is not true.  OS/2 wants "lots" of RAM only by PC standards.  The
operating system takes up between 18 and 35 megs of disk depending on
what features you want available.  That is par for the course for a
decent OS.  As for processor speed, I have seen OS/2 run nicely on
a 386/16mhz box.  RAM is the critical factor (just like unix).  If
you have 8megs or more (and why not when it costs $30/meg???) there
are no more speed problems.

Re:  open architecture problems

I couldn't agree more.  It is difficult to support all of the
different devices, but at least they are trying instead of
forcing you into using their hardware (like Atari).

Followups to comp.os.os2.advocacy....

Cheers,

Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: We have reignition
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 4 Jan 1993 11:35:08 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
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> > Although not really on topic with your message, I just thought I'd 
>point out that 2.01L is the newest version (for some months now) of 
>Quester's LHArc. 
>
>--
>via Fortress Gateway at uumind.mind.ORG


There is a LZH201LE on A.A. and a few other Sites...


!!!!!  NOTE: This is NOT VERSION 'L'  but VERSION 'I'....

There is not a English version 'L'....!!!!


Roger..................               sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: What terminal program should I use to call a UNIX machine from my ST
Date: 10 Jan 93 05:31:56 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <1993Jan7.111142.7402@dxcern.cern.ch> wwc@vsnhda.cern.ch (Wolfgang Wander) writes:
> ... In my opnion there
> are only two alternatives, which go both confirm with tests for
> this emulations. The one is he good old uniterm, a fast but not
> GEM-based terminal. The second is my terminal programme CoNnect ...

I would add a third alternative to Uniterm and Connect - Flash 1.6
(*not* Flash 2). The vt100 emulation is very reliable although not as
complete as Uniterm. Uniterm is also the fastest at character drawing
for ST term programs that I've seen. Flash 1.6 is almost as fast but
has other great features that make it a real workhorse (like that nice
editable capture buffer with word wrap, etc.).

Both Uniterm and Flash 1.6 (and maybe Connect, I tried it but can't 
remember, I deleted it anyway) correctly handle long lines, which you
wouldn't believe how many term programs screw up.

I tried ANSI-Term, it rebooted my damn machine every time! What a joke.
I tried the STalker 3.0 Demo, I found 3 or 4 bugs mostly with long lines
within 10 minutes, also it was the slowest screen drawing I've ever seen.

I don't like Gem window term programs (like Connect) because they're
slow and if I want 24x80 I have to fiddle with GDOS fonts or something
and get a crappy looking font. Until Atari makes machines with more than
640x480 res, 24x80 in a window will look like crap.

So for me, Uniterm and Flash 1.6 are the only term programs. I have to
try Freeze-dried term, I think that's the only one I haven't tried.
I suspect Storm will be a good one too, although Basic makes me ill. :)

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ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman