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From: waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu (Broughton, Wayne Jeremy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: NX Dreams?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 12:41 PST
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In article <drenze.718936545@icaen.uiowa.edu>, drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu 
(Douglas J Renze) writes...
>This is an off-the-wall question (I know), but do any of you ever have
>dreams involving the NX characters...as in, entire episodes?

[ dream episode deleted ]

Yes!  Well, not an entire episode (it sounds like your dream could 
almost be put in the show), but a couple of weeks ago I had a bizarre
dream in which (among other things) Maggie and Joel were detectives,
investigating some murder or something.  Unfortunately I can't remember
any of the details, but I think dead bodies kept on appearing, and 
I recall especially one scene where they were sitting discussing the case.
And possibly Maggie was being chased by the murderer at some point.

It's all right, you can go back to sleep now.  Sweet dreams!  On 
second thought, keep going and read my next post....

W.

**********************************************************************

Wayne J. Broughton                 Take the road less travelled by.  
waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu    
Department of Mathematics,
Caltech, Pasadena, CA  91125

Caltech has no idea what my opinions are;  
they think I'm working right now...
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From: drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze)
Subject: NX Dreams?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:35:45 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

This is an off-the-wall question (I know), but do any of you ever have
dreams involving the NX characters...as in, entire episodes?

Yes...entire episodes.  I had the weirdest dream, last night.  I can't
remember most of the plot-lines, but it began with a deserted American
GI drifting into town (or maybe he was just an ex-GI, which, in light of
what came later, seems more likely).  Like Maurice, an ex-Marine, but
unlike Maurice, so totally laid-back as to be almost the antithesis
of him.  This kid was 19 or 20, and had served in the Gulf, one of the
most traumatic experiences of his life.

He drifted into the Brick, where he encountered Maurice (made for some
weird interpersonal dynamics), and this storyline continued throughout
the episode, the ex-Marine met up with Chris, the two became fast friends,
and as the kid became more and more comfortable in Cicely, Chris became
more and more antsy, until he made a decision:  He had to leave Cicely,
either temporarily or permanently (it was unclear), and at the end, it
was the Kid sitting in the KBHR studio, DJing, reading from Stormin' Norman's
autobiography, closing it, and contrasting the pristine words to his own
dirty, scared-as-hell experience, and signing off with, "Goodnight, Cicely."

Weird, huh?

-- 
| Douglas J Renze            | "Jerry [Brown] is the equivalent of a          |
| drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu     |  drive-by shooting."                           |
| drenze@chop.isca.uiowa.edu |                                                |
| drenze@aol.com             |         * NPR's Morning Edition, 13 July 1992  |


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From: gordon@halcyon.com (Gordon Baldwin)
Subject: Re: More on beers.
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service +1 206 382 MAIL (382-6245)
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:17:40 GMT

schansen@amc.com (Scott Hansen) writes:
: >The REAL QUESTION:
: >What was the beer Ed, Joel,  Chris, and Bernard
: >were drinking in the Midnight Sun Episode when Joel wakes
: >up 3 days later and finds out what happened at the B-Ball
: >game? And is anyone keeping a tabulated beer inventory?
: 
: It looked like Henry's to me...
AKKKK! no it was not Henry's. They drink better beer than that on this show.
It was Pyramid Wheaton. My wheat beer of preference.

Gordon Baldwin

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From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
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Subject: Re: Maggie a babe
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:52:45 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
In-reply-to: jp@usafa.af.mil's message of 8 Oct 92 14:15:23 GMT

In article <jp.2@usafa.af.mil> jp@usafa.af.mil (J P) writes:

>   How many you out there think Maggie is a babe?

I didn't until the long dress in the car commercial.

Wow!

I can't even remember the type of car she was selling.



--
Sean J. Merritt		         |      Nietzsche che dice?
Dept of Physics Boston University| 	       Boh!	
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:09:13 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <1992Oct14.232511.15294@athena.mit.edu> cmbecker@space.mit.edu
(Christopher M. Becker) writes:
>I thought the theme was measurement and precsion--what scales should one use
>to measure success, functionality, and equality.

Really?  I'd like that.  Now I regret missing it.
I'm really interested measurement.

>Chris (Many-worlds interpretation of QM) paired with Amy
>(let's get time on a Cray YMP80 and calculate PI to 10^10 digits)...the way
>Amy needed to algebricly operate on both sides of the equation to maintain
>equality vs. Chris' comments on KBHR at the end.

Did they say (sorry about this did they say) YMP80 or Y-MP/8?

>P.S.  Are there really 8 consecutive 8's in PI around the billionth didgit? 

I believe the New Yorker article mentioned some of the digit matching.

You can ask in sci.math or contact these authors:

%A David Chudnovsky
%A Gregory Chudnovsky
%Z Columbia University
%T The computation of classical constants
%J Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA
%V 86
%D 1989
%X 1 billion decimal digits of pi on a CRAY2 and an IBM 3090.

%A Yasumasa Kanada
%T Vectorization of Multiple-Precision Arithmetic Program and
201,326,00 Decimal Digits of $pi$ Calculation
%E Joanne L. Martin
%E Stephen F. Lundstrom
%B Science and Applications: Supercomputing'88
%V II
%I IEEE
%C Orlando, FL
%D 1988
%P 117-128
%K computational mathematics,

or the older:

%A Yasumasa Kanada
%T Calculation of pi to 33 Million Decimal Places as Benchmark
and Heat Run Tests
%E Y. Kanada
%E C. K. Yuen
%B Trends in Supercomputing
%I World Scientific
%C Singapore
%D 1988
%P 88
%K applications mathematics,
%K calculation of pi, benchmarking, FFT, arithmetic-geometric mean,
Gauss-Legendre relation, statistical tests, supercomputer,

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
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From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Subject: drinking age
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:59:38 GMT

	What's the drinkin' age in AK? No, I'm NOT gonna waltz up there and
get smashed. (Remember, I live in Waltham. They've never HEARD of I.D.s
in this town. If I wanted to get drunk, I could probably get the Domino's
guy to deliver it along with my pizza.) I'm asking because we've seen Ed
drinking beer a couple of times. How old is he? Do you think they bother 
with drinking age in Cicely? And how old was Shelly when she started
working in the Brick? She's 20 now, so if she's been workin' there more'n
two years she's been breaking the law. Would Lt. Semanski (sp?) kick
Maurice's butt for allowing minors to break the law in his town? Just
wondering...
				Rosaleen Dhu
From: junck@okra.fnal.gov (Kevin Junck)
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Subject: Re: Rolf vs. American Beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:35:38 GMT
	<1992Oct14.233255.29285@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Fermilab, Batavia, IL


In article <1992Oct14.233255.29285@Csli.Stanford.EDU> olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen) writes:

>   In article <3101@news.cerf.net> davsmith@nic.cerf.net (David Smith) writes:
   >>
   >>Maybe Rolf did get a glass of Budweiser rather than something good, though.
   >>I'm sure Holling has Bud on tap :-(.

>   When I was in Vienna about three years ago, I saw a beer truck that said
>   "Budweiser" on the side.  Everything about it except the name was 
>   completely different from the American logo -- for example, the colors
>   were green and gold rather than red, white, and blue.  I was so struck
>   (not literally!) by this un-Budweiser-like Bud truck that I took a
>   photo of it.  So maybe there's a European "Budweiser" that's completely
>   independent of the one we know and love (or hate), and maybe that's
>   what Rolf thought he ordered.  All right, it's far fetched, but so
>   are lots of things to do with NEXP....
>
>   --Diane
>
>   -- 
>   Diane L. Olsen		"A woman with a mind is fit for all tasks."
>   olsen@csli.stanford.edu		--Christine de Pizan (c.1363-c.1431)

	Yes there is a German beer called Budweiser.  I tried a glass
while visiting friends in Germany this past summer.  They thought it
quite humorous that there would be an American beer named that also.
IMHO the German Budweiser beats the American Budweiser hands down.

-- 
Kevin L. Junck     a.k.a. Junck@okra.fnal.gov            708-840-8368
Fermi National Accelerator Lab                 Batavia, Illinois, USA
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From: kbarger@cellar.org (Kyle Barger)
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Subject: Re: Sex appeal of PI
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:48:57 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes:

> I'm impressed.  Never before tonight have I heard a monologue on PI turned
> into such an arousing, totally sexy event!

Yes, I myself found it very..... visceral.

Oh, sorry.  Seriously, folks, the bit about finding a message from God in Pi
if you run out enough digits in it.  This idea has actually been done
before, in the book "Contact" by Carl Sagan.  I couldn't help but wonder, as
she was talking about it, if the writers were familiar with that book.


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From: lsmith@hecto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Organization: Little Anchor Squids of te Poor
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:12:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.155757.28685@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> hansell@ellie.atmo.arizona.edu (Seth Hansell) writes:
>Well, at least we now know what the German's think of Alaskan Beer.  (What
>kind of beer was it he tried anyway.

This was sort of curious. If the Brick sold the usual American beers, Rolf's
reaction would have been appropriate. The microbrews that we see regularly
might have caused an opposite reaction. Rolf used to German lagers might 
have found the microbrew ales to be different, but certainly not tasting
like wasser. 
--
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         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
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From: dschenke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis L Schenkel)
Subject: Rolf, Ed, and Cultural Stereotypes
Keywords: Native Americans, Germans, Rolf, Ed, Stereotypes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:49:58 GMT

I thought it was interesting to see Rolf's preconceived notions of Native 
Americans from _Dances_with_Wolves_ and as people who make native artifacts.  
On the flipside, it was fun to watch Ed's preconceived notions of Germans as 
always being the 'bad guys' in films. Every film about German characters in 
Ed's library dealt with Gerbles (sp), the Nazi war criminal.  What a hoot!

Did anyone else notice the playfullness of that scene?

Dennis Schenkel
English Graduate Student
Ohio State University

Standard disclaimers apply.
--
From: garth@dojo.West.Sun.COM (Garth)
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Subject: Re: Rolf vs. American Beer
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:27:13 GMT
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 article <3101@news.cerf.net> davsmith@nic.cerf.net (David Smith) writes:
>When I was in Vienna about three years ago, I saw a beer truck that said
>"Budweiser" on the side.  Everything about it except the name was 
>completely different from the American logo -- for example, the colors
>were green and gold rather than red, white, and blue.  I was so struck
>(not literally!) by this un-Budweiser-like Bud truck that I took a
>photo of it.  So maybe there's a European "Budweiser" that's completely
>independent of the one we know and love (or hate), and maybe that's
>what Rolf thought he ordered.  All right, it's far fetched, but so
>are lots of things to do with NEXP....

Their is a chech beer called Budweiser that is farrrrrr superior to our
american bud.  Far older too.

	-Garth



			= = = = = = =
  | Garth R. Doverspike		Sun Microsystems, S.E. Seattle |
  | garth.doverspike@west.sun.com			       |
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Variety IS the spice of life
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:45:33 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1bkcotINNcb4@gap.caltech.edu>, gaylin@bacall.ipac.caltech.edu 
(Gaylin Laughlin) writes:

> Every episode DOES NOT need to focus on whether or not Joel and Maggie
> are going to finally get together!  

I don't think this is the argument that most of us are trying to make...
at least I know I'm not.

I just wanted *some* Maggie and Joel.  Remember this is a ensamble show,
and I am a little sad when ever *any* episode is lacking one of the major
players in Cicely.  I would have liked to have seen more Joel, and at least
an appearence by Maggie.

Remember the Midnight Sun episode?  That show used *all* of the characters,
and I really loved it.

Greg Bole                               "You gotta look out for Goddamn
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             number-one, pardon-the-vulgarity."   
                                             Dustin Hoffman in _Hero_
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From: djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Reply-To: djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:40:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.025244.17567@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>Well, the loud music score could be why Joel's immortal  line when he and Ed
>find Maggie in the woods coudn't be heard right and ahs caused so much
>confusion........
>
>Simon
>


Well, if the musical score is a problem, there may be a simple, albeit, costly
way to determine the line.

Go get a closed caption decoder. I watch the show with my decoder (I'm hearing
impaired), and I'd swear the captions were :"I'll try not to get turned on"
However, my memory has been slightly wiped out by the studying for a test I did
before and after Northern Exposure, so if anyone has the tape, and a decoder,
please check it out.
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: missing kids of Cicely mystery; parakeet?
Keywords: children; dead live birds
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:29:16 GMT

In article <Bw2vBv.DKA@acsu.buffalo.edu> psylum@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Jan Hastrup) writes:
>A possible solution to the missing kids of Cicely mystery:
>maybe they're all hanging out at the Village Pizza, which is
>shown in the opening credits -- about where Morty the Moose
>first appears.  Across many episodes the adults have been seen
>inside the Brick, Ruth Ann's store, Joel's office, various
>people's houses, the church . . .  But what adult would stray
>inside the Village Pizza if all the kids really _are_ in there.
>Well, perhaps some day Joel will be called upon for an emergency
>Heimlich maneuver, or Ed will explore the VP with his newly-
>repaired camera, and we'll see if this hypothesis is correct.
>
>I thought the "parakeet" in the 10/12 episode was a prop, and a
>poor one at that.  When it was "dead," it looked more real than
>when it was supposedly alive.  Parakeets do not mildly nod their
>heads when a strange hand enters their cages.  Okay, maybe that
>bird was sick and about to drop dead anyways?  But his replacement
>also sat woodenly on Chris' finger.  Cheap!  (Or is that:  cheep!)
>Is this an isolated incident or is production maybe getting a
>little sloppy?  Like the poor canoe paddling, it's distracting.
Just be glad that Chris didn't have a "Dead Parakeet" sketch with Amy!
"It's not dead Amy, it's just asleep..."
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From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Re: Rolf, Ed, and Cultural Stereotypes
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:19:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.174958.14354@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dschenke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis L Schenkel) writes:

   I thought it was interesting to see Rolf's preconceived notions of
   Native Americans from _Dances_with_Wolves_ and as people who make
   native artifacts.  On the flipside, it was fun to watch Ed's
   preconceived notions of Germans as always being the 'bad guys' in
   films. Every film about German characters in Ed's library dealt
   with Gerbles (sp), the Nazi war criminal.  What a hoot!

Not Goebbels, but (Dr.) Mengele.  
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:58:39 EDT
From: <TPW106@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: my opinion on 10/12 episode

I too read Contact and yes the Pi thing was very similar.
i think the German guy was interested in Ed and he was very right about America
n beer.  I liked it when Maurice got bent out of shape about the clock and the
clockmaker almost took it back.  I would have liked to see him kick Maurice's a
ss.  I didn't miss Joel at all but i did miss Maggie and the best character on
the show, Marilyn.  I would like to see more of the mathmatician woman.
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From: dslee@netcom.com (Donna S. Lee)
Subject: recent actor appearances
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:16:04 GMT

Since there has been a bit of discussion of Janine Turner
sightings recently, I thought I'd catalogue my sightings/hearings
of NorEx actors in the past few months (say since June).

Radio ads (so I can only guess that I'm actually hearing who I
think I'm hearing):

John Corbett: Isuzu. Nice, laid back, scripted rather in
Chris-character, but John's delivery was slightly different, more
serious.

The Man Who Play Maurice (I can't believe I've forgotten his
name, but so it goes): An American truck ad, I forget which. The
script and his delivery were both _very_ Maurice.

Cynthia Geary (that is Shelly's actress' name, right?): It was
several months back, so I no longer remember the object that was
being marketed, but it was her voice, and the giveaway was the
line "go do the wild thing, (blah, blah, blah)" used in the
commericial. It was kind of weird, really.

TV ads:
Janine Turner: Chevy. I think there must be at least three
different ads, since I haven't seen the one that's just a head
shot, but I have seen two others featuring her in two different
outfits.


So, any other advertising radio/tv/print sightings to add?
-- 
 Donna S. Lee // EC Technology // dslee@netcom.com
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From: bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle)
Subject: Re: Rolf, Ed, and Cultural Stereotypes
Keywords: Native Americans, Germans, Rolf, Ed, Stereotypes
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:10:29 GMT

dschenke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis L Schenkel) writes:

>I thought it was interesting to see Rolf's preconceived notions of Native 
>Americans from _Dances_with_Wolves_ and as people who make native artifacts.  
>On the flipside, it was fun to watch Ed's preconceived notions of Germans as 
>always being the 'bad guys' in films. Every film about German characters in 
>Ed's library dealt with Gerbles (sp), the Nazi war criminal.  What a hoot!
                         ^^^^^^^

Huh?  I thought they were all about Dr. Mengele.





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From: larry@labrador.fishkill.ibm.com (Larry Pieniazek)
Subject: Re: Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:27:41 GMT
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Reply-To: lar@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: You've got to be kidding!! 

In article <1992Oct13.135449.16177@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>,
lbrother@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Larry Brothers) writes:
> The ol' lady & I caught about the last half-hour of the show last
> night.  Who is the lady the DJ is in love with?  She's perfect for
> him! 
> 
> But to push a Harley off a cliff?  Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!  When she
> said, "But you love this.", he should have said, "I love you, too!"
> and thrown *her* off the cliff.
> 

I'm with you. That was the worst part of the whole show. I do not
like seeing ANYthing get destroyed for the sake of a story, whether
it be a motorcycle, a car (cf. Maurice's Caddy) or a tape recorder.

In general I think it promotes a disrespect for technology and for
what is worth preserving.

I refused to watch Dukes of Hazzard precisely because they were
using up all the good roadrunners/chargers/challengers for the
sake of plot development (such as it was :-). I read they used up
about 2 or 3 each SHOW. Disgusting.

Now I agree that people have the right to destroy property that they
lawfully acquired, but I don't have to like it. They better quit doing
it or I'll quit watching.

NX may have been spoiled by its own success, the trend this year so far
is not good. Are all TV shows doomed to get diluted after they become
hits?

-Lar

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