From: shell@ugluk.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: flames and FAQs
Date: 5 Nov 1992 23:22:15 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ugluk.berkeley.edu

In article <Bx9JoM.Ew4@nic.umass.edu> jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (yeP!) writes:
>Question to shelly (or whoever is dealing with it these days):  Is the
>FAQ still getting sent to new subscribers?  For those who don't know,
>there is a list of (F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions that should answer
>most of the questions that come up week after week.  Maybe it's time to
>post it again.
>

Well, it has never been the custom to send the FAQ to new subscribers,
though that can be changed -- I try not to set policy here, just implement
it :-).  Each new subscriber to the digest is sent a copy of the message
I'll append below (the "welcome" message).  We could probably send the
FAQ as well, but it might be an overwhelming amount of text to receive
at one time, especially for a new user who is not yet fully familiar with
their local mail program (which is often the case with our new subscribers).
Please direct any suggestions for revisions or changes in policy to the
net as a whole rather than my personal mailbox, since I believe these are
areas where we need to make decisions as a group.

Also, posting this is probably appropriate since folks who only interact
with rec.music.phish (instead of the digest) may well have never seen this
information.

Shelly


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