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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: London, Information wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:50:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com's message of 27 Jul 92 15:04:17 GMT

In article <990006@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan) writes:

          I think there is an Undergound station right at Heathrow.

There are two Underground stations at Heathrow, because it's such a big
airport.  If you're going *to* Heathrow, make sure you don't get off at the
wrong one!

   > 4) How much cash would I need ? This includes transportation,
   >    entrance fees, food and a couple of pints of the best ale
   >    in the world. 

For London, *lots* of cash :-(

   > 5) Last but not the least, WEATHER at this time of the year.

The weather is totally unpredictable but never very extreme; either it's
cloudy or it's sunny, it's raining or it's not, it's hot (80F) or cool (60F);
but it can't be reliably predicted in advance.  It changes quickly, too.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
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From: gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan)
Subject: Re: Scotland ideas
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:31:59 GMT
Summary: Scotland: things to see
Keywords: Scotland

> I'm planning to go to Scotland this year, all the way up to the 
> Highlands. 
> Are there any places of special interest (regarding nature or
> scenic areas).
> How about finding a bed over there (Bed & Breakfast or Hotel).

Hello, I'm planning a trip there as well, so a few ideas.

1.) See the "great glen" whihc divides the hgihlands, 
running, essentially up Loch Ness.

2.) The western islands, Mull, Skye, Islay, etc are beautiful,
but a bit out of the way.

3.) Fife.  The ancient "cradle" of scotland, around the firth
of forth, just north of edinburg.  Many neat old towns, etc., including
St. Andrews.

re: BnBs

Call the Scottihs tourist agency and ask for (or buy) their
guide to BnBs in Scotland.  Also, once there, you can book ahead
through the tourist authority booths which appear to be everywhere.
There are toop many in my group to count on this, but you might
consider the frredom.

Grant
gfl@hera.cc.bellcore.com
From: koreth@twitterpater.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Grimm)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Quick trip to Egypt?
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:54:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Federal, Milpitas, CA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM

I'm going to be in the area late this October, and I'd like to take a
quick side-trip to Egypt and see the Sphinx, the Great Pyramids, and
various other interesting sites in the Cairo area.  How much money can
I expect to spend doing this?  Once I've landed in Cairo, is it no big
deal to find a tour going out to the monuments, or should I book
something well in advance?  Is this even worth doing if I only have a
day or two to spend?
 
Advice, pointers, anecdotes, or whatever would be appreciated.  E-mail
me; I'll summarize to the net.
 
---
Steven Grimm  koreth@eng.sun.com   Moderator, comp.{sources,binaries}.atari.st
"We must be brave, and not let them know how frightened we really are."
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From: davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Philly to Boston driving times
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:30:54 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <dumic-230792123654@condor.swarthmore.edu> dumic@cc.swarthmore.edu (Mark J. Dumic) writes:
>[Drive to]
>95 North.  I take this to New London where I take 395 North to the
>Massacheusetts Turnpike.  Interstate 395 never seems to be busy.  While 95
>has lots of traffic on it, its always moved well for me and 95 has plenty
>of convenient service areas.
>

Just a note of caution:
Connecticut is notorious for giving expensive speeding tickets, and detectors
are prohibited.  Be especially careful on I-95.  Rhode Island is also pretty
bad.
From: obrien@sparc28.hri.com (Jim Obrien)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Sesame Place Park in Philadelphia
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:00:09 GMT
Reply-To: obrien@bigbird.hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

Does anyone have an information about this park. I heard
it is kind of a water slide park with sesame street characters.

Does anyone know specifically where it is, and how nice it is??

thanks     Jimm...


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From: pabo@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Eric Pabo)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 21:26:39 GMT
Subject: Re: RV Rentals in Denver
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.travel

From the Denver Yellow Pages

"Recreational Vehicles- Renting and Leasing"


Apache Village 303-429-7111

Carrington Coaches  303-431-0073

Cruise America 303-426-6699

Fold Down Trailers- RV Acres 303-428-3574

Go Vacations 303-480-0100

Happy Campers RV Center 303-455-0899

Long Motor Company (Longmont) 303-665-0271

Nolan's RV 303-238-8283 or 303-429-6114

Southwest Rentals 303-936-2391

I have no direct experience with any of the above companies other than getting
pricing information from Cruise America and Go Vacations.

I believe that AAA members get a 10% discount on Cruise America Rentals.

Regards,

Eric F Pabo
pabo@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com
303-679-3947
From: luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: upcomming vacation
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:41:12 GMT
Organization: Concurrent - Oceanport NJ


	I'm want to take my van to Canada around Montral this early sept.
Being single, I'd want to know where the dancing, socializing  and fun 
with others in my situation will best occur. If someone has been in that area
looking for fun and found it let me know where.

  						Thanks in Advance
							Bill
From: pazzani@pan.ics.uci.edu (Michael Pazzani)
Subject: Renting a car & apartment in Sydney for 3 months
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Reply-To: pazzani@ics.uci.edu (Michael Pazzani)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:17:38 GMT

I'm taking a sabbatical to the University of Sydney, Australia for 3
months starting in January.  Does anyone have any idea how I'd find a
furnished two bedroom apartment for this period (In the US, many large
cities have Oakwood apartments, is there an Austalian equivalent).
How about leasing or renting a car for 3 months?  Can this be done
relatively cheaply.

Thanks
Mike
From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Need subscription info for Tico Times
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:02:08 GMT
Reply-To: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <9873@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall) writes:
>Could someone send me an address and 6-month subscription
>charge (in dollars) for a U.S. subscription to  "The Tico Times"?

  [ ... stuff deleted ... ]
>For the benefit of others "The Tico Times" is
>an English-language newspaper published in San Jose, Costa Rica.
>I highly recommend it to anyone planning to visit/travel there,
>since it has a good coverage of local news as well as advertisements
>by hotels, restaurants, and local travel agencies.  It also has
>some interesting classified ads. 

  I've received several replies to this, and also quite a few
  requests to pass the information on if/when I receive it.
  Therefore, the following is what I needed, quoted from one
  of the nice people who responded to my request:

In terms of prices, 3 months=US $16.50; 6 months=$26.50;
and 1 year=$45. This is from a fairly recent (May 8, 1992) issue, so it
should be current. They now have a US address for stateside subscribers:

Tico Times
Dept. 717
PO Box 025216
Miami, FL 33102

(Courtesy of several people who responded)

John

--
John W. Nall              | Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
nall@mailer.scri.fsu.edu  | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306
    "You cannot be a beacon, if yo' light don't shine!"  
                                            - heard on the car radio...
From: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:04:17 GMT
Subject: Re: London, Information wanted
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.travel

In rec.travel, rberi@encore.WPI.EDU (Rajesh Beri) writes:

> I have around ten hours to kill in London.  Could someone
> send me the following information :

> 1) How long does it take from Heathrow to the city ? Best form
>    of transportation ? Schedule, fare etc.

     - A minimum of one hour, if you're lucky, if you drive. So, the best
       means of transportation is the train - The Underground. I don't know
       the schedule but it is always ON TIME. It would get you to downtown
       London much, much faster and it has numerous stops and these stops
       are clearly labeled. I suggest going to the bookstore and quickly 
       browse over one of those London travel books (maybe Frommer's or
       one of those Let's Go books) - I think there is an Undergound station
       right at Heathrow. (Also, don't expect you really have 10 hours to 
       kill since it may take awhile to get through Customs if you're not a 
       citizen of one of the EEC countries.)

> 2) Can't miss sights ?

> 3) Will I be able to see Buckingham Palace, Trafalgar Square
>    Hyde Park, Tower of London, Lords within a span of 10 hours ?

     Hyde Park is right in front of Buckingham so you walk to the Palace
     from there. Yes, you can "see" the Palace since that's all you can do
     (I mean, you can't go in). There is the changing of the guard and I
     think it's at 11:30am but check to make sure this time is correct.
     The Tower of London is also nearby and you might want to spend about
     a couple of hours here - there is a line to see the Crown Jewels.

> 4) How much cash would I need ? This includes transportation,
>    entrance fees, food and a couple of pints of the best ale
>    in the world. 

> 5) Last but not the least, WEATHER at this time of the year.

> Thanks in advance


> Cheerios & pip pip

> Rajesh

> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I have become truly AMERICANIZED; all things I own are JAPANESE !!!
 							           
>
-RGB

FYI: London is incredibly congested so unless you're taking the Underground,
     expect long delays. They drive quite differently - for example, they'll
     try to fit two cars in one lane (and they have narrow street lanes) and
     they drive aggressively. Walking and taking the trains is the fastest
     way to get anywhere. 
			      


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dumic@cc.swarthmore.edu (Mark J. Dumic)
Subject: Re: Philly to Boston driving times
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:49:09 GMT

In article <9207161825.AA18816@aries>, snahas@ARIES.INTEL.COM (steven
nahas) wrote:
> 
> Anyone have a handle on driving times, both ways, non rush hour, if
> there is such a thing?

I recently relocated from Boston to Philadelphia for a job while my fiancee
is still in Boston.  Needless to say, I've become a bit of an expert of
driving times between the two cities.  It usually takes me 6.5 to 8 hours
keeping with traffic (which is usually traveling at 65 mph).  That's with
maybe 30 minutes of total stop time for coffee, gas, etc.

Since I'm coming from the West of Philidelphia, I cross the Delaware River
into N.J. over the Commodore Barry bridge then take the New Jersey turnpike
to the Garden State thruway.  This takes me up to the New York State border
where I get on 287 East crossing the Hudson at the Tappan Zee Bridge.  

At this point, there are several options.  One is to take 687? North to
Interstate 84 East. This runs into the Massacheusetts Turnpike which will
take you to Boston.  I find that there's often a lot of traffic on 84 and
things slow down as you go through several larger towns in Connecticut.

So, I usually cross the Tappan Zee, get on the Cross Westchester Parkway to
95 North.  I take this to New London where I take 395 North to the
Massacheusetts Turnpike.  Interstate 395 never seems to be busy.  While 95
has lots of traffic on it, its always moved well for me and 95 has plenty
of convenient service areas.

Hope this helps!
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Chicago,Boston,etc.,subways 
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 23:48:55 GMT

> Toronto's subway system is still probably one of the best ones in
> North America.  ...  You don't
> have to worry much about riding it alone at nights cuz now they
> have designated waiting areas at most stations which are monitored 
> while you wait for the train.

When I see this sort of facility in a city I'm visiting, it makes me
worry *more*.  To me the DWAs are a designation that all the *rest* of
the station must be considered hopelessly crime-ridden and should be
avoided at all costs.

Fortunately, since I live here, I know that this is not really true.
Crime rates are a bit higher in recent years, what with the recession
and increase in drugs, but nowhere near the levels that would justify
such a designation.  (And the crime rates in subway stations are generally
*lower* than elsewhere.)  The DWAs are simply an overreaction.
-- 
Mark Brader				"Every new technology carries with it
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto			 an opportunity to invent a new crime"
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- Laurence A. Urgenson

This article is in the public domain.
From: rberi@encore.WPI.EDU (Rajesh Beri)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: London, Information wanted
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:49:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

I have around ten hours to kill in London.  Could someone
send me the following information :

1) How long does it take from Heathrow to the city ? Best form
   of transportation ? Schedule, fare etc.

2) Can't miss sights ?

3) Will I be able to see Buckingham Palace, Trafalgar Square
   Hyde Park, Tower of London, Lords within a span of 10 hours ?

4) How much cash would I need ? This includes transportation,
   entrance fees, food and a couple of pints of the best ale
   in the world. 

5) Last but not the least, WEATHER at this time of the year.

Thanks in advance


Cheerios & pip pip

Rajesh

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I have become truly AMERICANIZED; all things I own are JAPANESE !!!
 							           
                                                                   -RGB
From: pearl@sw.stratus.com (Dan Pearl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Philly to Boston driving times
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:49:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I might go NJ Turnpike to GW Bridge

Then Cross Bronx Expressway
Hutchinson Pkwy (North)
Merritt Pkwy
I-91 North
I-84 East
I-90 East



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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: th66969@cc.tut.fi (Heimola Teijo)
Subject: ITALY and FRANCE-info needed
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:36:56 GMT


Hello !

I am planning a trip to Italy and France in August. I'd like
to visit Torino, Milan, Venice, Firenze, Bordeaux, Biarriz and
maybe some other places.

Now I need following information about these cities:

- what to see and what is worth visiting
- food and drink
- inexpensive places to stay a night (hostels/hotels)
- train travel-info
- special happenings in August
- dangers if any
- other interesting cities to see

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Please send your reply via email and as soon you can.

Thanks !
From: neeraj@sora.axon.siemens.com (Neeraj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Hotels/motels in Buffalo NY (not belonging to major national chains)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:57:04 GMT
Reply-To: neeraj@learning.siemens.com
Distribution: na
Organization: /home/l6/neeraj/.organization


I shall appreciate if some readers in Buffalo, NY area can send me the names
(and phone numbers, if possible) of some hotels/motels
not-belonging-to-major-national-chains in the Buffalo area. If you can get hold
of the buffalo-area yellow pages and look for the appropriate entries, you can
be of great help to me.

For the curious, I need advance booking in a motel in Buffalo. All the major
hotels/motels are already over-booked for the dates I want. I am guessing that 
I have a better chance of getting a reservation in the places that are not
nationally known. 
	
		thanks,

Neeraj Bhatnagar
neeraj@learning.siemens.com
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: aa758@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jordan Fields)
Subject: boundary waters, MN
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 00:06:44 GMT


Some friends and I are going portaging in the boundary waters of nothern
Minnesota. Has anyone ever done this there before? Any 
tips? 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Question on Yosemite National Park (Camping)
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:48:47 GMT

|> > So can anyone give more details on how early you have to get to the first
|> > come first served camp grounds to camp there? 
|> 
|> That would be the Sunnyside campground, the Haight-Ashbury of
|> Yosemite Valley campgrounds.

Actually, there are several campgrounds along Highway 120 that have
first-come campsites.  This includes a big block of sites at Tuolumne
Meadows.  Sorry, I don't know what time they fill up, but it probably varies
wildly from day to day.  Your best bet would be a weekday (early in the
week).

|> Don't be too dismayed at having to settle for an out-of-valley campsite.
|> The valley campsites are very noisy and lacking in privacy.

If the first-come campsites fill up, you may be hosed.  There are some
campsites outside the park, but these also fill up quickly and they are not
real close.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: dsc@salmon.unet.com (Debabrata Chowdhury)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Help with Yosemite plan
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:00:25 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Santa Barbara

I shall be at Yosemite for three days during the next week. For people
who have been there, what are the must do's and see's that can be squeezed in
during that time.  Please feel free to e-mail, I will summarize and 
post it in next two weeks

Thanks in advance,

Deb Chowdhury
dsc@salmon.net.com
From: gessner@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Gessner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Belize in August?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:09:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: stars.21JUL199210090769
Organization: Hughes STX
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1


Any thoughts on going to Belize in August? A friend just returned from there
and informed me that the natives warned her it was deserted then because of the
sweltering temperatures. I want to go the second week of August. 

Also, any ideas of package tour companies that go to Belize? I heard that 
TACA (?) airlines maintains one out of New Orleans.

                                             Thanks!
                                               Susan
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: malpass@ll.mit.edu (Don Malpass)
Subject: Re: Trip to Tortola, BVI any ideas?
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:09:41 GMT

In article <1682EC47E.STU@mwvm.mitre.org> STU@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>Go to the Baths.  The rocks are hugh, awsome and worth the day.  I believe
>there are packages that include a round trip and lunch - take snorkle stuff
>and swim for the day.
	Seconded!  Take sunscreen!

>Go to the Peter Island Yacht Club for dinner.
	You'd do well to try to obtain prices first.  It's a nice island
to tramp around on, but the price of dinner can bring on cardiac arrest
even before you're served anything more than the menu.

>Go to St. John's and hike in one of the several parks/trails.  Have lunch
>at the Rock Resort on Caneel Bay - expensive (overpriced), but lovely.
	Also seconded.

>St. Thomas is worth the day only if you are a compulsive junk shopper.
	Also seconded.

>If you SCUBA dive - take a day at the caves (any one of several).  They
>are not so deep as to require lines and lights - but are nice to visit.
	There's plenty of good diving in the BVI.  The Indians is
another lovely spot.  It's good snorkeling too, but I'm not sure
anybody does boat trips to it.  The only way I've ever done it is while
chartering a sailboat and anchoring there to snorkel/dive.

	Enjoy,
-- 
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  Many of our congressmen seem to think a two party system means
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Passport needed for visa?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:47:28 GMT

packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) wrote: 
->Do I need to have a U.S. passport in hand to apply for a visa
->to some other country? (I'm planning to go to Hungary and
->Yugoslavia) I've never traveled outside the country, and I was
->hoping to take care of my passport application and all my visa
->applications in one visit to downtown Washington. 

depends on the requirements of the host country; in most cases, they
want the passport to record information from it and to affix the visa
to the passport.

your hope, as stated above, is probably not reasonable; the passport
office doesn't generally turn-around a passport in one day unless you
have an emergency (a ticket with a recent departure) and any country
which requires you to have a visa may take one day or fifteen to
process your application.

->Incidentally, do travel agencies handle visa applications?

some do; many (most?) don't.  when they do, it's an extra value-added
service that you may have to pay some token fee for.  in the greater
washington area there are services which will collect your paperwork
and run around collecting visas for you; your travel agent may refer
you to one of these.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Travel Tips
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:25:58 GMT

lmiller@aero.org (Lawrence H. Miller) wrote: 
->	On US airlines, there is no smoking on domestic flights.

on us airlines there is no smoking on domestic flights which run
shorter than six hours.  

domestic flights which run longer than six hours will have smoking
sections (there aren't very many of these, but there are some).

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: snahas@TD2CAD.INTEL.COM (steven nahas)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: NYC Train/Bus depot question
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:07:19 GMT


If I take a train from Providence, RI to NYC, does that train
deposit me at Penn Sta. or Grand Central?

If I want to take a Greyhound bus from NYC to Philly, do I do that
from Port Authority terminal, or somewhere nearby?

Anyone have a handle on walking distances from these train stations
to Port Authority and/or  the Greyhound depot nearest ?

Thanks in advance!

Steve