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From: scoggin@opus.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin)
Subject: Re: Internet address book.
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company, Newark
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:16:53 GMT

>In article <1992Aug14.063151.20106@uwm.edu> matthewk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matthew Robert Koster) writes:
>>Can anyone out in internet land please tell me if there is a listing
>>of everyones internet address and real name.  I know this sound like
>>a unreal request, but it could be possible.
>
There is one phonebook available - one of Internet network managers.  It was
put together by BBN under contract to the National Science Foundation in
1990.  I believe the last updates were made in Feb of 1991.  It is available
via anonymous FTP from nnsc.nsf.net under phonebook.

	- John

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From: ken@cse.fau.edu (Kenneth Maier)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Newspaper on line, Information Agencies
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:20:32 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <KRAWCHUK.92Aug11125453@phecda.cs.sfu.ca> krawchuk@cs.sfu.ca writes:
>
>(Rick Adams) wrote:
>_________
>ra> 	Clarinet is a commercial service available to both individual
>ra> subscribers and to sites. Rates range from a high of $35/mo for an
>ra> individual full service feed to as little as $1/mo per user (or even less in
>ra> academic settings) for a group subscription.
>
>Costs for the user can be much higher if there is no local clarinet feed
>due to long distance charges. 
>

Can anyone give me an email address or contact that I can get a hold
of to see if I can get a feed for Clarinet?   I am interested in setting
it up at our university...

Thanks!

Ken
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,comp.misc,biz.comp.services,alt.bbs.internet
From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: landsat (true color) images?
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:23:06 GMT


I'm looking for gif files (preferred) of Minnesota or the Twin Cities
(or even smaller areas, Saint Paul, U of M, whatever).

Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
--

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Operations/User Services          1200 Washington Avenue South
(612) 626-1888 work               Minneapolis, Minnesota  55415
(612) 645-0168 voice mail         [DISCLAIMER: MY OPINIONS; NOT MSCI'S]

      ___________________________________________________
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Send e-mail to fax, telex etc..
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:42:21 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth) writes:

>Is there any way to send e-mail messages to a fax # or a telex # ?
>If not on internet, how about commercial networks like Compuserve etc. ?

CompuServe offers FAX.  It's just like sending CompuServe e-mail except
that you start the address line with '>FAX:' followed by the FAX number.
And there's a charge, of course, although not a large one.  I send FAXes
to Spain via CIS fairly often for something like a couple of dollars.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Paul W. Brooks esq.)
Subject: Re: IP in Africa?
Summary: I guess not
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:38:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.125332.1228@guvax.georgetown.edu>, troberts@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
> Some colleagues are flying out to Cameroun, Central Africa, next month 
> to conduct some research at the University of Yaounde, Cameroun.  They 
> are taking a PC with them.  Does anyone know if the University of 
> Yaounde is hooked up to Internet?  or if there is any way I can find 
> out (short of flying out there myself to look over their system)?
Well, using information gleaned from a recent post, I tried the WHOIS
service, which should, at least, have records if they have applied for
an IP network number....

------------ capture session starts ---------------
isaac ~> telnet nic.ddn.mil whois
Trying 192.112.36.5...
Connected to nic.ddn.mil.
Escape character is '^]'.
cameroun
No match for "CAMEROUN".
Connection closed by foreign host.
isaac ~> telnet nic.ddn.mil whois
Trying 192.112.36.5...
Connected to nic.ddn.mil.
Escape character is '^]'.
yaounde
No match for "YAOUNDE".
Connection closed by foreign host.
isaac ~>
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> Our guest researcher says there is a CS department at UYaounde, but 
> knows no one there, and can't say what sort of networking services are 
> available.

My guess is none.

Paul Brooks        |Internet: pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au
Uni. of N.S.W.     |If you have trouble sleeping, try lying on the end of
Kensington NSW 2033|   your bed. With a little luck you'll drop off. 
AUSTRALIA          |                              - Mark Twain. 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: hetrick@amazonas.ips.id.ethz.ch ( Jim Hetrick)
Subject: site for political platforms, plans, etc?
Organization: ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:14:16 GMT

Hi,

Anybody know where one can download the plans, platforms,
platitudes, or mutual slanderings of the US parties?

Well forget the slandering... I'd just be interested in
the 2 platforms and Clinton's economic plan for now.

Thanks,    Jim

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ETH - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
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Telephone: +41 1 256 5766 -\|/- Fax: +41 1 261 0468
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: talal@cco.caltech.edu (Talal T. Balaa)
Subject: search for patents?
Keywords: patent
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:08:24 GMT

Is there a site where one can search for patents. (US and hopefully the world)


ThanX!
t


Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: bwalker@IMD.Sterling.COM (Bruce Walker)
Subject: TELNET sites
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:43:34 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 1985c5bf6580c6b54557d67f3e34de2b

Anyone have a list of TELNET information sites
(something like the list of ftp anonymous sites).

Please mail to me if you do. Thanks in advance.

-- 
-- 
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Sterling Software IMD        INTERNET: bwalker@IMD.Sterling.COM
1404 Ft. Crook Rd. South     Phone:    (402) 291-8300 
Bellevue, NE. 68005-2969     FAX:      (402) 291-4362
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz)
Subject: Is there a way to access credit ratings?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:03:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wild Bill's Cajun Cuisine and Tuxedo Shop


I would like to know if there is a way to access my own personal
credit rating via computer--I have access to the net (of course), 
and also Compu$erve.  Is there a machine I can get to that will
allow this?

adTHANKSvance!

-Eric

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: doug@UC780.UMD.EDU (Deac Moo of the UGC)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Reply-To: doug@UC780.UMD.EDU
Organization: The University of Maryland, University College
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:31:57 GMT

In article <Aug.14.19.56.35.1992.19104@remus.rutgers.edu>, ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (Ken Ficara) writes:
>
>1. The $9.95 per month fee -- outrageous and unjustifiable (and stupid
>   -- are they TRYING to discourage people?);
>
>2. The fact that you STILL can't send mail from the Internet to a
>GEnie user unless the poor fool has agreed to get socked for $10 a
>month. You may as well not have a gateway at all if there's n way to
>tell whether or not your mail will get through.
>
>If they feel a need to charge for the service -- and I understand that
>-- then just make it part of the $6/hour services and be done with it.
>I said in the GEnie topic that you'd be a fool to sign up for it (and
>was sideswiped by a makreting type there fo it) but I stand by the
>remark. I cannot think of a more expensive way to get mail access to
>the net.
>
>ken
>ficara@remus.rutgers.edu
>
>(and K.FICARA on GEnie)

I agree with Ken, especially on point 2. Since there is a GEnie Sysop reading
this category (and is, no doubt, free flagged for the GEnie/Internet Gateway),
perhaps he might pass these comments along to GEnie management. 

I would e-mail them directly to GEnie management, but I dunno if they're
anointed with Internet mail directly....

Pagans that they are. 

				Doug

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 18:22:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug14.150821.27022@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com writes:
>
>Indeed, America Online does "charge" its users based on connect time.
>With a number of different pricing plans in use at AOL, your costs
>will vary, of course, depending on A: hourly charge, B: small message
>sizes, C: monthly hourly usage in excess of pricing plan, and
>D: the efficiency of the connection between your computer and AOL.
>
	Sure, but on GEnie the costs will _also_ vary based on:

	1. Hourly charge if your line is surcharged or you call during 
	   prime time.

	2. Number of messages (@ $0.40/ea.).

	3. Monthly flat rate of $9.95 in addition to standard rates.

	4. Efficiency of the connection . . .

	Come on, Andy. We _both_ know GEnie is ripping its customers off
blind at the rate that's being charged. You've seen the same posts in the
GENIEUSE RT/BB about the prices I have - the other users are perfectly aware
that it's a rip off (except for the inexperienced users who are being duped
by GEnie into believing this is a good value). Look at all the posts there
about MCI Mail and CI$ being cheaper. The _only_ people who aren't willing
to admit that GEnie Internet is a rip-off are CHIP.C and a few staunch GEnie
supporters who don't know any better - or aren't willing to admit they do!

	Even the current ridiculous rate is bound to end up altered - how
long do you think it will be before GEnie management realizes that allowing
people to receive files from SIMTEL via Email, or to participate in lists
devoted to computer topics (including, of course, Unix and IBM-PC lists)
will cost them precious connect charges? We _both_ know its just a matter of
time before they either limit the size/volume of email a user can receive
from Internet and/or start charging by the KB for _receiving_ email as well
as charging to send it!

	I tend to agree with a previous poster - the only reason GEnie added
Internet access was for the advertising benefits - not because it would be
of value to the users!


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From: Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 05:11:35 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Doug,

=>When did GEnie open up a gateway to internet? Is it just e-mail?
=> And how do I send e-mail through it?

They just opened up Beta test to the users, but you STILL got to
pay!!. It's 9.95 month PLUS $.40 per outgoing message.

As far as I can see, no access to Newsgroups. Just mail

name@genie.geis.com, I believe is the format.

                                          Darla
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Reply-To: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:42:46 GMT

adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.150821.27022@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com writes:
>>
>>Indeed, America Online does "charge" its users based on connect time.
>>With a number of different pricing plans in use at AOL, your costs
>>will vary, of course, depending on A: hourly charge, B: small message
>>sizes, C: monthly hourly usage in excess of pricing plan, and
>>D: the efficiency of the connection between your computer and AOL.
>>
>	Sure, but on GEnie the costs will _also_ vary based on:

>	1. Hourly charge if your line is surcharged or you call during 
>	   prime time.

Yes, this is true.  The vast majority of GEnie users call during the
evening hours for this reason.  (Although right now GEnie has a sale
[temporary reduction in pricing] for daytime connection, at 30 cents
per hour less than Compuserve's hourly 12/2400 baud rate.)

>	2. Number of messages (@ $0.40/ea.).

Number of outgoing messages, yes.

>	3. Monthly flat rate of $9.95 in addition to standard rates.

Yes.

>	4. Efficiency of the connection . . .

Only for hourly rate connections - which does not include GE Mail
or Internet mail during the GEnie*Basic pricing hours, 6pm to 8am
plus 24 hours on weekends and genie holidays.

[stuff deleted]
>We _both_ know its just a matter of
>time before they either limit the size/volume of email a user can receive
>from Internet and/or start charging by the KB for _receiving_ email as well
>as charging to send it!

I don't know any such thing.  I certainly hope not, as I have made available
the information that will enable users to make best use of a $9.95 gateway.

>	I tend to agree with a previous poster - the only reason GEnie added
>Internet access was for the advertising benefits - not because it would be
>of value to the users!

The post in question was about GEIS internet access and pricing, 
not GEnie access and pricing.  Or so the poster indicated.

>-- 
>    rick.adams on GEnie   /|\        You are right from your side,        
>     adamsr@netcom.com  /  |  \        And I am right from mine.          
>    adamsr@irie.ais.org \ /|\ /  We're both just one too many mornings,   
>   adamsr@norwich.bitnet  \|/  And a thousand miles behind. (c Bob Dylan) 

-Andy

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: STN via the network?
From: mcdonald@vax1.umkc.edu (Gary Lee McDonald)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:29:55 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City


Greetings,

  A researcher here has inquired as to whether STN (Science and Technology
Network, I think) is accessable via the network.  Anyone know?  Thanks!

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: showard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott R Howard)
Subject: Re: landsat (true color) images?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:07:21 GMT

>Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
>Subject: landsat (true color) images?
>Message-ID: <1992Aug16.232306.28430@uc.msc.edu>
>Date: 16 Aug 92 23:23:06 GMT
>Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
>
>I'm looking for gif files (preferred) of Minnesota or the Twin Cities
>(or even smaller areas, Saint Paul, U of M, whatever).
>
>Anyone able to point me in the right direction?

First off,  Landsat TM data cost over $4,000 per scene.   I don't think very
many people are going to purchase this data and then simply GIVE it away to
the public.  Secondly, that data IS PROTECTED!!!!!  There are STRICT legal
constraints as to how the original data is distributed and STIFF penalties
for people who don't follow those constraints.   True that MSS is cheaper,
if you buy an archived scene its only $200 but its similar to TM in its
restrictions.  Same goes for SPOT data.   What I might suggest instead....

Go to the nearest USGS office and ask for NHAP data over your area of interest.
You can get NHAP as cheap as $12.00 a photo.  Scan the photo and presto, you
have a false color composite (Color IR) shot in a GIF file.

>--
>
>Edward A. Bertsch (eab@msc.edu)   Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.
>Operations/User Services          1200 Washington Avenue South


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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: tdowling@lib.washington.edu (Thomas Dowling)
Subject: Re: STN via the network?
Organization: University of Washington Libraries
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:58:03 GMT

I don't search it myself, but the address is stnc.cas.org.  Our Chemistry 
librarian says the service works very well via the Internet.

Thomas Dowling
University of Washington Libraries


In article <1992Aug14.122955.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, mcdonald@vax1.umkc.edu (Gary Lee McDonald) writes:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
>   A researcher here has inquired as to whether STN (Science and Technology
> Network, I think) is accessable via the network.  Anyone know?  Thanks!
>
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Reply-To: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:02:45 GMT

adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams) writes:
[parts deleted to save bandwidth]
>	The system is supposedly in beta test now (although the banner is
>inviting anyone to signup). Unfortunately, the pricing will result in only
>heavy users with no other Internet resources available signing up - which is
>_bound_ to skew the results of the test a bit.

GEnie has stated, in the topic mentioned below (in the GEnie Users' RT)
that pricing is one of the factors that can be evaluated in this beta
test.  In my opinion, based on reactions on the Prodigy "hike" a couple
years ago, it is harder to raise the price than lower it.

[more deleted]

>	If you have a GEnie account, there is a discussion of the subject
>ongoing on the GENIEuse RT/BB in Cat. 5 Top. 38  I posted the instructions
>on how to access the SIMTEL mail server and how to request the SIMTEL
>listings and uudecode.bas from them - but I expect they will delete that
>message rather quickly since members who use the service to download from
>SIMTEL won't be as "profitable" as those who don't. 

As of this morning your instructions are still there.  (Message 148,
dated Satuday August 8, 1992).  In fact, I know they can also be found 
in the wealth of Internet information online in the Unix RoundTable 
and in the Internet category of its Bulletin Board (#12).  In fact, 
I posted much of the same information (about decoding) in the GEnie 
Users' RT's topic as can be found in the "starter" topics in the
Unix RT.  (For those who don't read signatures closely, I manage the
Unix area on GEnie.)

>	GEnie members might wish to mention interesting lists in that topic
>to help insure that people won't be _quite_ as badly ripped off!

I have made available in the Unix RT library area numerous files
detailing mailing lists and newsgroup reflectors available on the
Internet.  They are some of my hottest downloads, for your information.
(Just look at the number of accesses on files uploaded by ANDY for
the past 60 days.)

>-- 
>    rick.adams on GEnie   /|\        You are right from your side,        
>     adamsr@netcom.com  /  |  \        And I am right from mine.          
>    adamsr@irie.ais.org \ /|\ /  We're both just one too many mornings,   
>   adamsr@norwich.bitnet  \|/  And a thousand miles behind. (c Bob Dylan) 

I hope this helps clear up some questions and corrects some impressions
of the GEnie Internet product.  

-Andy
Disclaimer: I don't speak for GEnie, I speak for myself.  Of course,
I did state all factual information available to any GEnie subscriber.

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: educ@unixg.ubc.ca (Vicki Domansky)
Subject: Re: Accessing BRS via Internet
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:11:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.162935.217@athena.mit.edu> tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart) writes:
>I had hoped that somewhere in this thread, someone would say
>what BRS stands for (is), but that hasn't happened.  So, I 
>volunteer to look stupid, so that I, and the rest of the net
>ignorant out there, can learn.  What does BRS stand for?

As far as I can tell from the documentation we have here, BRS doesn't
stand for anything in particular.  The full name is BRS (tm)
Information Technologies, a division of Maxwell Online Inc.  Our
faculty occasionally uses their BRS Afterdark system, which allows
evening access to their various abstract databases.


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Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: ldonovan@milton.u.washington.edu (Leslie Donovan)
Subject: dialin to Internet from Albuquerque, NM
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:35:40 GMT

Need Internet access from area code 505, specifically Albuquerque, NM. 
I'm moving there in September and will still have access to my UW account
in Seattle but need a cheap way to dial Seattle for mail, ftp, etc from
Albuquerque w/o paying long distance rates every day.
Leslie
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