HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ekaftan@malloco.ing.puc.cl (ekaftan)
Subject: Re: How is the bootable disk determined.
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:43:57 GMT

	Mi suggestion: try Startup control panel.

	I think that cdev stores somewhere (PRAM?) the startup sequence,
any case, always tries first floppies then hards.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: psybeast@world.std.com (The Unknown)
Subject: Re: Finder Prefs Not Saving!!!!!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:39:18 GMT

First, I would like to Thank all those who came back to me with ideas!!!!

The things that I did try BEFORE Posting were:
1) ReStart from the Special Menu...
2) Zap the PRAMs with Control-Option-P-R...
3) I even tried using another "Finder Prefs" from andother machine!!!!!

While waiting for some answers, I went on to another project, and when I
went back to try somethings, the Mac "fixed" itself!!!!!

I am a firm believer that a Mac is like a VW bug... kick it a few times
and it will work again for another 100,OOO miles!!!!! ;-)

Thanks Again All!!

PsyBeast

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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Finder Prefs Not Saving!!!!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek) writes:

>In article <Bvt7Kt.B0M@world.std.com> psybeast@world.std.com (The Unknown) writes:
>>
>>Basically, I was changing the VIEWS (CDEV)... 
>>
>>When I would close the CDEV, one Finder window would show the change, and
>>another would not... OK I thought to myself, FINDER is just not responding
>>quickly... So I rebooted...
>>
>>After the reboot, the changes I had made in Views were not taking effect?

>I have a theory that you were "rebooting" with Control-Clover-Power.
>This is a no-no.  Since the IIsi uses a cache, you can lose your most
>recent changes this way.

    There is no indication that he was using the "programmer switch" on
the IIsi to reboot. I think you may be jumping the gun a little here.
Restart and reboot are synonyms.

>Reboot using the "Restart" command under the "Special" menu.  Only use
>Control-Clover-Power as a last resort (such as when the Mac hangs).

    Good advice in any event, although I would recommend intstalling
MacsBug. It can sometimes save you a force restart.

>I don't change the Views very often, so I can't say whether the "slow
>response" is normal or not; it might be.  However, losing recent
>changes after a Control-Clover-Power reboot is entirely normal.

    What you might try doing is zapping the Parity RAM. This holds a lot
of information about your system, including the Views information, I
think. You can do this by holding down command-option-shift-p-r and then
doing a Restart. Continue to hold down the kesy until you hear the
Resart tone twice. Then let go and try to reset the Views cp again. If
this doesn't help, you might need to reinstall your system. Or at the
very least, the Views control panel.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mac IIfx won't recognize 12 Meg Memory
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:03:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Oct11.153551.16725@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, seaney@engr.wisc.edu
wrote:
> 
> 
> We have a IIfx with systems 7.0.1 and 12 Meg of memory.  The Finder indicates
> that there is 12 Meg of memory installed, but it tells us that the 'largest
> unused block' is 4meg less then what it should be.  Is there some trick to get
> ti to recognize the last 4 Meg.

How did you get 12 Meg of memory into a IIfx?  I don't know of any 2-meg
SIMMs for a Mac IIfx.  so far as I know, the only memory configurations for
the IIfx are

4 megs (four 1-meg SIMMs)
8 megs (eight 1-meg SIMMs)
16 megs (four 4-meg SIMMs)
17 megs (four 4-meg SIMMs and four 1-meg SIMMs)
32 megs (eight 4-meg SIMMs)
plus various combinations using 16-meg SIMMs.

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From: gv9j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Can I do FTP directly???
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:00:15 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Are there FTP programs out there that I can use to FTP sites directly?  I'm
hooked up via MacTCP to CornellA or VAX5 (Dec and IBM) and FTPing using my
accounts there.  What would it take to run a FTP program on my machine directly
through my appletalk?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bartosz@milton.u.washington.edu (Bartosz Kijanka)
Subject: Need suggestions abt. LAN and mail-merge
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:19:02 GMT



I would be grateful if I could get some suggestions on two topics:

What would be the optimal network to use in a small office running about 4-5
Macs?  Any information, including general price would be greatly appreciated.


Which is the preffered software package for mail-merge/label printing/
standard letter form printing, etc. ( you get the picture )...  As in the above
, listing general price would be very helpful.


Thanks in advance,
bartosz@u.washington.edu
From: michael@cwi.nl (M. Guravage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: hard disk resuscitation
Summary: resusciate crashed Hard Drive - How?
Keywords: hard drive crash repair
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:50:44 GMT

Yesterday, I rebooted my Mac+ after it got hung-up in an editing
application. Unfortunately, after that, I can no longer boot from the
hard drive.  Back at the office, with the help of a few tools, I've
discerned that two blocks: 1598 and 1620 have been are trashed. Has
anyone any advice as to how I can repair or otherwise tweak these
blocks and resuscitate my drive?

Any help will be more than appreciated.



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From: Masud Cader <mcader@worldbank.org>
Subject: IIg printer drops from chooser?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A703035670051C24@36.28.220.138.in-addr.arpa>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:15:34 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:10:21 GMT

We have a Laserwriter IIg on a ethertalk network, and a unix machine
directly  interfacing to the printer through the serial port.   According
to the manual fro the printer, the IIg is supposed to handle port
switching without any problem.  However, it has been reported that the
IIg is lost from the chooser intermittently.  Some have suggested that
this is due to the serial link into the printer from the unix machine.

Somehow, I would like to find this hard to believe.  But with product
specifications not always agreeing with the actual product, one can only
hope.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  If you have or have
not had the same problem please respond as well (via e-mail).

Thanks.
From: bmueller@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: What is "Color 950" ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:19:51 CDT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

Netters,

I was lokking into the system folder of a new IIci the other day.
As you know, Apple dumps everything + the kitchen sink on the disk
when they set them up at the factory (This was system 7.0.1).

In the extensions folder, I believe, there was (surprise -an extension)
with the word Color on it and I believe the number 950. Is this some tweak
for the Quadra?

Thanks.

                                          ...Bob Mueller
                                             bmueller@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: psybeast@world.std.com (The Unknown)
Subject: Finder Prefs Not Saving!!!!!
Organization: Very Little!
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:41:15 GMT

Hey folks in Mac Land!

Got a weird one here...

I just recently reformatted a Mac IIsi with Sys 7 utilities, and after all
the fun of installing ALL system software fresh, I was beginning to
customize Finder for normal work... 

Basically, I was changing the VIEWS (CDEV)... 

When I would close the CDEV, one Finder window would show the change, and
another would not... OK I thought to myself, FINDER is just not responding
quickly... So I rebooted...

After the reboot, the changes I had made in Views were not taking effect?

Try it again... Make the changes... Same FINDER windows oddity... Reboot...
No changes...

On the third try, I trashed Finder Prefs, made new View changes, same
finder window problems... reboot... back to DEFAULT seetings...

Does anyone out there have an idea????? I was using Tuner 1.1.1... Had not
gotten to the point of installing any other software yet...

Thanks in advance!!!!!

PsyBeast

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From: lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Toggle 32-bit Addressing
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:49:03 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: na
Organization: General Electric R&D

In article <7569@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
wrote:
> 
> 
> People:
> 
>    I'm looking for an init, Fkey, or other device that will allow me
> to toggle 32-bit addressing on/off.  If you know of such a device and
> where (ie sumex-aim), please let me know.
>    Thanks!
> 
>      (e-mail responses prefered)
> 
>                                 Nick
> 

Well, yeah, it's called the "Memory" control panel.

Seriously, you need to reboot to enable/disable 32-bit addressing, so I
don't know where the advantage of having an init or whatever comes in.

If you're doing a lot of experimenting with 32-bit addressing on/off, just
move an alias of the control panel to the desktop.

Or am I missing something here??

- Lorne

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sdm7g@aemsun.med.Virginia.EDU (Steven D. Majewski)
Subject: How is the bootable disk determined.
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Virginia - Physiology Dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:34:17 GMT

I am replacing a Mac ( Plus or Classic, I'm not sure. ) with an
external HD40SC with a IIci with internal hard disk. 
I installed system 7 and other software on the IIci and set it
up in the new owners office, and plugged in their external disk.
The Mac now boots off the external disk. How do I disable it. 

( I have been able to boot the internal disk by booting with no
  power to the external disk, and then mount the external disk 
  via SCSI probe or SCSI tool, so I know that all of the hardware
  works. I tried changing the SCSI ID of the external disk, but
  that didn't appear to change anything. ) 

[ My 2nd guess is that it boots the highest scsi ID with a system 
  folder? Or is there (invisible) boot code installed on the disk? ]


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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 uses 300k less ram (true?)
Date: 7 Oct 1992 16:19:29 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu


	it uses less, the amount varies, depending what kind of
	configuration you are running;  I have not seen 300k myself,
	but had heard that figure before...
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From: ables@hal.com (King Ables)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.misc
Subject: Re: Why someone would want to e-mail Apple versus calling them
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:05:28 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.

> Why is it that so many people find it impossible to pick up a phone and
> dial an 800 number?

It's easier and often more effective:

	1. You never get a busy signal or put on hold for 15 minutes.

	2. You only have to tell your story once.

	3. You can include examples of the problem.

	4. It's easier for the customer support people to pass
	   the info around until the right person can respond.

	5. You can send e-mail at 2:00am when you *have*
	   the problem.

There's nothing worse than having to wait until the next day to
call somebody, wait 20 minutes before you even get a human, then
get passed around 4 or 5 times, telling your story each time,
before you get someone who has half a chance of understanding
your problem!  By the time you get somebody who cares, YOU don't!

I find e-mail more effective communications in almost any case
where precise technical discussion is going on (i.e. as opposed
to brainstorming and such idea-oriented conversation).  No, you
can't take inflections from people's voices with e-mail, but
often people are more honest (my opinion) and less tense because
they can sit and compose a reply rather than answering off the
top of their head and fearing saying something incorrect, either
technically or politically.

There's also no rush because they can reply as they have the
time, it isn't an immediate interruption like a phone call is
(sure, in the case of a customer support person, that's what
they're there for, but what percentage of the time do they have
to hand the call off to a more expert person for help who *isn't*
sitting around waiting for these calls... 90%?... 95%?).

Some may think it's more impersonal, but after almost 15 years of
using electronic mail, I think it's just great.  It's like anything
else, it just takes getting used to.  But people always wonder
how it is I talk to answering machines so well without feeling
uncomfortable... I just pretend I'm talking to the person I
called (which, eventually, I am)... same thing with e-mail.  It's
not as CONVERSATIONAL... but if I want conversation, I go to a pub
with some friends.  ;-)  It's a way of getting information to another
person.  And it works much better than the telephone when the
information is highly technical and can be easily misunderstood.

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+1 512 794 2855               Austin, TX  78759
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From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Lets Just Steal 7.1!
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:11:23 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

MS> Don't forget that Apple has the system upgrade on CD ROM as 
MS> well as on floppy disk. The CD ROM upgrade comes with a site 
MS> license to upgrade all the machines you have.

Does the current (10/13/92) System 7 Personal Upgrade Kit allow the user to
upgrade all his machines as well?  I seem to remember Apple making a big deal
out of the CD-ROM upgrade kit only being necessary for network admins, in that
it made their job bearable, otherwise the two packages were essentially the
same.

Or, should I ask, "Does Apple give a damn if I buy one PUK and upgrade all
three of my home machines?  Do they actually say anything about _not_ being
allowed to do this?"

--Adam--
 
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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mac IIfx won't recognize 12 Meg Memory
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:42:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Oct14.214410.15323@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, seaney@engr.wisc.edu
wrote:
> 
> In article <mike_steiner-141092121708@192.35.50.131> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com
> (Mike Steiner) writes:
> >In article <M9RRBSF4@cc.swarthmore.edu>, kohn@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel
> >Kohn) wrote:
> >
> >> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> gs.
> >
> >This much I know--however, you can't have 256K SIMMs in a IIfx.
> >
> >> 	Seaney would have 4 1-meg SIMMs in one bank and 4 2-meg SIMMs in
> >> another.
> >
> 
> 
> Okay -- I can't open the IIfx up at the moment.  (It's a long story). 
> 
> The mystery is a little bit stranger not, though.  I enabled 32-bit addressing
> thanks to the man notes from the net.  When I rebooted the finder informed me I
> had 8 meg of RAM.  
> 
> Any ideas what's inside of this thing?

It sounds as if you have 8 megs of RAM, and had 12 megs of Virtual Memory
selected.  When you went to 32-bit RAM, you apparently turned off VM. 
That's the only thing that I can think of to explain this.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels)
Subject: Re: need a SAM manual
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:27:59 GMT

s3007904@MACKAY.MPCE.MQ.EDU.AU writes:
>Help.

>	I am having problems trying to figure out how to work SAM 
>the mac virus detecter. I am looking for a manual or some documentation
>so I can figure out how to use I properly. Can some one Tell me were I 
>can email for the proper documentation. I can't seem to find my 
>documentation.
Simple. In the box you bought you'll find some book, just next to the floppy
disks. Read them, and you know how SAM works.

--maarten
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email:		maarten@fwi.uva.nl
From: smytonj@murr14.alleg.edu (James Smyton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Slow Mouse Clicks on SE Problem
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:20:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Allegheny College

In article <1992Oct9.051028.7214@netcom.com> jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry  
Scoggins) writes:
>(Text Deleted) 
Not only may the RAM cache be too large, it may be too small.
I've found that a healthy size for a B&W machine running 7.0.1 and
a limited number of extensions is 128K.  If you have more than 10
extensions try 256K.
In other words, give your system 128K for every 10 extensions in your
system.  I had a similar problem.  When I opened my "Memory" cdev, I saw
that someone who had been using my machine set the cache to 64K.(When I  
was running 7.0.)(I think the low limit for 7.0.1 is 128K).
Hope this tip works.

Jim Smyton
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ptc@flory.che.Virginia.EDU (Peter T. Cummings)
Subject: Need help with Sys 7/Laserwriter NTII problem
Reply-To: ptc@virginia.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:27:50 GMT

Yesterday I upgraded to System 7 (with tune-up) on my Mac IIcx (8 Meg
memory).  Today I tried to print something (anything - from Excel, Word,
any window in the finder) and kept
getting printer error -50.  Basically, it seems the print utility can't
find the
printer.  I took the printer (which runs on the Built-In LocalTalk
network) to another 
Mac still running Sys 6, put it on that network, and it printed fine. 
Back on the Sys 7 
Mac IIcx, I can choose it using the chooser without any problem.  I can
run the LaserWriter Utility, rename and restart the printer no sweat, so
it seems the physical connection is there.  [For a while I was worried
that somehow my connectors got hosed.]  Maybe this is a clue: from
inside LaserWriter Utility I can Display Available Fonts, but when I try
to Print Font Catalog or Print Font Samples, I get the recurring error
-50. 

Can anyone out there help me?  It's probably some simple, dumb mistake,
or some incompatibility.  Maybe there's a fix somewhere.  Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Sorry if this is a FAQ: I don't read this newsgroup at all.  Please
respond by email,
or point me to the place where the FAQ's are answered.  Thanks very
much.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: qc@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Quentin J Clark)
Subject: zapping pram
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:38:48 GMT

hello.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is "zapping PRAM"
What does it do for the Mac, i.e. what are the benefits.

Thanks...

tschuss!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: Re: LC II with 2 megs memory?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:42:42 GMT
Organization: Apple
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Oct7.174757.16447@mendelson.com>, gsm@mendelson.com
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
> 
>LC and LCII stuff...
> 
> Also I beleive that and LCII will not boot anything earlier than 7.0.1.    

The LCII will run on 6.0.7, just like the LC.                  

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.