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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P (eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: More teletext problems
Date: 12 Jan 1993 04:08:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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> From: api053@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Garion)
> Subject: New TV stations and Teletext
> 
> I have of course witnessed the new Teletext on 3 and 4....oh dear.
> It was supposed to take over from midnight, instead we couldn't get anything
> for a few hours.  The first thing I noticed was how slow it was  compared to 
> Oracle!  Though I do like the Bamboozle quiz, I find what they've done to the
> sport pages appalling.  The fasttext can sometimes go wrong too, I was about
> to look at fun and games, when suddenly the finance page came up.  Often I 
> find that the new service isn't working - displaying the delightful message - 
> "Service Interruption"  Although I like the idea of the regional news and
> information, I thought they could have done it better.  Since it's launch we
> have had almost the same stories.
 
During the transmission of "Anna Lee", I switched on the ITV subtitles to see
if they were working yet.  To my surprise they were.  Then I tried to access
some of the more regular pages and all I could get was complete gibberish.
You would select one of the TV page, get it momentarily and then it would
be half-overwritten with sport or something like that.  The clock was
going wild....it was ticking 2 seconds forward and then a second back. Then
**:** ** appeared where the time was...and I gave up.

Dunno whether this happened elsewhere.  I was watching Anglia on the Sandy
Heath transmitter.

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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P (eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Coronation Street becomes trunk road!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 04:36:11 -0600
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I found last night's "Coronation Street" completely ridiculous.

After having seen only about 3 cars go along the street in 30 years, we
are now supposed to beleive that it's a complete traffic nightmare. Sally
appears in the shop saying that it's taken her ages to cross the road!

It appears to have been beyond the wit of the scriptwriters to gradually
build up the traffic over a few weeks before introducing this storyline.
Alternatively, they could have had someone indicate that road-works (or
something) had caused lots of traffic to use the street as a short-cut.
But no explantion at all?

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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Allo Allo finally finishes
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:23:33 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

In article <C0AD56.HH0@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk (You) writes:

>   So Allo Allo has finally finished after 10 years.

SHeish! It JUST finished? It seems like there are TONS of episodes out
there. 

>  Like the other series written
> by Perry and Croft it had a proper ending, not like some shows were the
> networks cancels it so the last episode was no different to the last
> episode in any of its seasons.

I know. the US rarely has a fitting conclusion, though "Newhart" did. 

>  Previous seasons of Allo Allo had 26 or so episodes in them, did this one?
> It only seems to have been on a short time?

I don't know, but it explains why the showing in the US seems like it
runs forever before it get's to episode one. I have never seen ANY UK
comedy to run forever like this one seemed to, though "Are You Being
Served" is up there.

> Because of the way they ended Allo Allo it looks like it definitely will
> not have any type of sequel series.  both Are YOu Being SErved and Dad's 

OK. would someone PLEASE post a spoiler on this, since it may be a
while before it get's over here. I mean:

1) do those stupid British airmen get back
2) does Crabtree ever learn to speak French
3) Who does Rene finally marry
4) Does the Mother In Law survive? (How old is Rose Hill?)
5) Is there any more info on Maria or Geering
6) Does Herr Fligg (Sp?) marry Hilda?
7) does anybody over there really care anymore?

				John
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From: apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:13:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Citizen Smith
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, CCSY Messaging Centre, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk

A question I have: was the girlfriend played by the same woman who plays
Raquel in Only Fools and Horses (Tessa Peake-Jones, if I remember correctly)?
She was billed in the Radio Times under a different name for Citizen Smith, I
think even the first name was different, yet she looks and sounds the same.

Andrew
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From: bammerla@cs.ruu.nl (Boris Ammerlaan)
Subject: Roxette <--> Michelle Pfeiffer
Summary: Wanted: trailer (that's what it's called, right?)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:05:30 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: Dangerous Liasons, The Fabulous Baker Boys, Married To The Mob

Is there anybody out there who can help me get the trailer of the three movies
with M.P., with the Roxette-song "The Look"? It was (among other times, I'm
sure) broadcast right after a movie called "Seargant Rutledge" and after a
Star Trek-episode. ("The Consience of a King", I believe.)
I would like to have it on VHS, but if that isn't possible, I would also
accept V2000 or BETA.
Please e-mail me.

Boris Ammerlaan
Alpenwoud 520
5022MV Tilburg
Netherlands
From: imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Complaints about TV
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:53:59 GMT
Organization: Association for the Abolition of Aberrant Apostrophes
X-Modified-on: GMT
X-Local-Date: Tuesday, 12th January 1993 at 1:51pm GMT
Originator: imc@msc10.comlab

In article <7862.9301101922@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>, hid009@cent1.lancs.ac.uk (James Masterton) wrote:
>I for one find it compulsive viewing, not for the chance to watch the
>programme makers in the hotseat but to marvel at what are often quite
>spurious and almost ridiculous things people find to complain about.

... followed by a collection of points well made.  In fact it reminds me a
bit of the articles Richard Lloyd used to type in from Oracle (RIP) about
complaints sent to the BSC. :-)

>                                   In fact the only thing I found
>offensive was the comment from one caller at her disgust at seeing the
>naked body of the plump lady who was presenting the edition of Open Space.

Indeed - the caller used words to the effect of "disgusting fat naked body"
(though I can't remember the exact words).  This was ironic (not to mention
offensive) because the woman on the programme tried to explain why this
attitude is totally wrong and that one shouldn't be ashamed of how one
looks.

>Thankyou 'Biteback' for making my evening.
Thanks for an enjoyable article :-)

I don't suppose you sent a copy of this article to the programme as well...

Ian Collier
Ian.Collier@prg.ox.ac.uk | imc@ecs.ox.ac.uk
From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Lovejoy of Jan 10
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:46:39 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <C0p35q.M2w@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
>Was it my imagination or would that episode have been better as the season finale to last
>season?  What a depressing way to *start* a new season!
>
>Scott

It was unusual and Lovejoy himself had a harder edge than usual, tending
towards the character in the books prehaps, by becoming less honest or moral. 
In the books he thinks nothing of `improving' an item for sale at an
inflated price.



>
>
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I have made a truly wonderful discovery -- after two bottles of good, cheap
Bulgarian wine ANY television comedy program will seem funny (except shows
with Mr. Beadle which require a 6-pack of Newcastle Brown in addition!)
From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: REd Dwarf: Rimmer Between 2, 3 & 5
Keywords: SPOILERS
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:04:00 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

Spoilers for seasons 2, 3, & 5.




Well, I have a question, because I never saw it explained. Of course,
our local PBS has decided not to show every episode. What Happened
with Rimmer? When did he get so mobile. Before, he was confined to the
ship, yet without any portable device, in the first episode of RD3, he
is walking all over Nodnol. When did he get so mobile? In RD5,
however, he had limited mobility in some episodes again.

Also, in RD5, Rimmer get's "Physical" a whole lot. 3 out of 6 episodes
had Rimmer appear in a physical form.  

But back to the mobility... Any reasons given why Rimmer is so mobile.

				John
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From: mark-r@ee.man.ac.uk (Mark Robinson (JO PhD))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: US <-> UK video swapping
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:44:41 GMT
Reply-To: mark-r@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Mark Robinson (JO PhD))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

In article <C0Dty9.4uH@dcs.ed.ac.uk> dic@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Chapman) writes:

>BTW, Does anyone remember Noel Edmond's Multi-coloured Swap Shop ? (Tel 01 811 8055)
>Or were you all too busy watching Tiswas on ITV ?
>
>David.

>--------------------------------------------------
>David Chapman (dic@dcs.ed.ac.uk)

Yeah, I remember - 01 811 8055 has been engraved on my mind ever since,
and I can't even remember my OWN phone nember usually :-)

Other than that I can remember very little, except Posh Paws the little
cuddly dinosaur, so called because Posh Paws is Swap Shop backwards
(! - try it).

Tiswas (Saturday is Tiswas, Never a day to miss 'cos, Saturday is
Tiswas day) was far too sophisticated for me, but I recently saw
Sally James (?) on telly and she still looked *exactly* the same.

Compost Corner, etc....

Mark
mark-r@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk

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From: dnh@mfltd.co.uk (Des Herriott)
Subject: Re: new beeb gameshow - VR
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd., Newbury, UK
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:40:51 GMT


In article <C0DqCI.95J@newcastle.ac.uk>, S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes:
> Anyone else catch that new VR based gameshow on Beeb 2 last night...Lister (Craig Charles)
> was the host.  Had a couple of footballers on one team (don't know who they were, don't
> follow the sport) and some normalish people on the other.
> 
> It was a bit annoying with the hooting in the audiance, but the premise was good.

Yeah, I caught it.  It wasn't bad, but I'd have liked to have seen more 
out n' out action and less of that tedious puzzle solving.  (or at least
some less tedious puzzles :-)

And what on earth does 'A Wooga a wooga' mean?  

Des.
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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Drop the Dead Donkey - Jan 7, 1993
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:48:01 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Durham

I liked it.

I can't remember though, did Alex say that she was leaving at the end of last series, or
was this just the scriptwriters way of introducing the fact that she wasn't coming back
for another series?

Will be interesting to see how / if Helen is that different from Alex though.

Scott


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From: morphet@cguhpa.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Helen Morphet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Swap Shop
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:35:51 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I remember the 'top ten swaps' of the week - you offered one of your less favourite toys/games in the vain hope of receiving a pair of Simon le Bon's underwear in exchange. I wondered at the time if anyone was actually successful in their swaps. I'd still love to know.

Didn't Maggie Philbin and Keith Chegwin (that famous married-separated-reunited-reseparated tv celebrity twosome) meet while working on this program, or was that on Saturday Superstore? Why were they employed in the first place? We should be told.

Helen.

Liverpool are magic, 
Everton are tragic,
Na na na na,
Na na na na.
From: S.Burke@bradford.ac.uk (S BURKE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Sports Personality (was Re: Bite Back---as patronising as ever!)
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:34:18 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91633880@ccw305

In article <nrp.724522795@reading> nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:
>tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) writes:
>
>>Cricket by the way got 167 hours of air time but is a men's game and
>>therefore worth more air time :-). Tennis came in at 120+ and is a men's
>>game as well, then another MEN's game (soccer) at 107; then golf (men's
>>game)...
>
>Not really related to Biteback, but I thought I'd moan and complain about
>the Sports Personality thing on Sunday.
>
>1: The Olympics got half an hour, whereas the Paralympics got ten seconds.
>2: The British Paralympic athletes won 128 medals which is far more than
>   the Olympic team.
>3: Tanni Grey won four medals, and Chris Holmes won six or seven.  Yet we
>   got yet another interview with Linford Christie and Sally Gunnell,
>   with the _real_ heroes sitting there watching and being ignored (again).
>4: Nigel Mansell has no personality, so how can he win sports personality
>   of the year award?
>
>I could go on about the pathetic coverage the Paralympics got when it was
>on (three highlight programmes at 12.30 on Saturdays and 2.00 on one
>Sunday);  I could go on about the fact that the British Para team came
>third; I could go on all sodding night.
>
>God, the BBC makes me sick.

 I agree.  The whole BBC Sports Personality thing is a farce, although
to be fair to Auntie Beeb she does have to fit plenty into the two hours
available.  This means that sports such as rugby league, the third biggest
spectator sport in GB (behind football and racing) receive relatively little
air time.

Also, world snooker champion Stephen Hendry boycotted the event in 1992
because of the brief amount of time allocated to his sport in previous
years. (His view, not mine)

However, the worst aspect of the show is that the viewers' votes do not 
necessarily affect the outcome !!  In 1991, when Liz McColgan won it,
one of the country's Angling magazines mounted a campaign asking its readers
to vote for the best angler (a guy called Nudd I seem to remember).  So many
people actually voted for him that he finished in the top three.  He was then
disqualified by the BBC!
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk (You)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Allo Allo finally finishes
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:15:06 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.


  So Allo Allo has finally finished after 10 years.
 Like the other series written
by Perry and Croft it had a proper ending, not like some shows were the
networks cancels it so the last episode was no different to the last
episode in any of its seasons.

     Hi-Di-Hi  = the holliday camp shut down
     Are you being served = the store closed down (?)
     It Ain't Half Hot Mum = World War 2 ended and the troops came home
     Dad's Army = ????????????????????
                    I've no idea how this one ended.

 Previous seasons of Allo Allo had 26 or so episodes in them, did this one?
It only seems to have been on a short time?
Because of the way they ended Allo Allo it looks like it definitely will
not have any type of sequel series.  both Are YOu Being SErved and Dad's 
Army had sequels.
From: susher@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Come back Thames all is forgiven!
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:47:47 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1993Jan5.115044.3924@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) writes:
> Trevor Jenkins (tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : Well we've suffered Carlton now for two days and I wish that Thames hadn't
> : lost the franchise! 
> 
> Ah, c'mon, give 'em a chance! A couple of weeks at least. My region gets
> Meridian, which has a horrid splash of colour as its logo, but although I
> haven't watched much since it started, what I have seen seems reasonably
> slick and professional. One nasty thing to have crept in is the announcement
> of sponsors after some programs, such as "you have just been watching XXXXX,
> sponsored by YYYYYY". More imported US-style drivel! :-}
> 

Well, whilst I was back home in Cornwall I witnessed the start of Westcountry
TV. What can I say... 00:17 on 1st Jan.. screen goes blank for 5 minutes... not
an auspicious start. 09:15 1st Jan.. Some techy starts practising the good
morning message VT.. this would have been fine if he hadn't have used the
broadcast channel as a monitor! It was Chip & Dale's Rescue Rangers, then
welcome message & morning TV rundown, then back to Chip & Dale, then welcome
message again, back to GMTV, then 1 minute of blank screen (he/she probably
couldn't get the VT machine to run :-)) then back to GMTV!

Well, what else... Gone have the personalised links between programs with the
well known presenters making snide remarks about the next program, in have come
impersonal voice-over-flashy-graphic links. Whoever asked for a TV station run
by South West Water and English China Clay? TSW out bid them and still lost the
franchise!

TSW wasn't purfect, far from it, but from what I saw of Westcountry it was
leagues ahead of its replacement.

As for Teletext Ltd... Associated Press should have kept to newspapers! I'll
never use their news service as I don't know how much it has been mangled to
fit the owner's own views, this is the reason I don't read newspapers.

As for the way it has been organised, well I think they modelled it on the
BBC's new service.. which WAS the poorer of the two services by a large degree,
then they found some new ways of making it less useful!

> -- 
> Andy Clews, Computing Service, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, England
> JANET: andy@uk.ac.sussex.syma      OTHER NETWORKS: andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk

Steve
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Come back Thames all is forgiven!
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:57:24 +0000

Well we've suffered Carlton now for two days and I wish that Thames hadn't
lost the franchise! 

C's conntinuity annoucer are very poor at their job. On several occasions
this evening they missed the handover to the nationally screened programme
such that they were cut off.

Also they cannot spell, their through the night caption has the word
"Nightime" on it. Even those, like me, who are dictionarily-impaired know
that there are two Ts in night time.

Regards, Trevor.

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From: arkhive@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Ailsa Jenkins)
Subject: Inspector Morse 
Distribution: world
Organization: QLA - Quantum Leap Anonymous
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:57:48 +0000


In article <C0rEHH.1s9@cck.coventry.ac.uk> ayoung@cck.coventry.ac.uk writes:


>      can anybody pleasse tell me how many episodes of Inspector
>       Morse  there have been.? Thanks.

Sorry, dont know. I guess they are mostly available on vid. 

Thought you might be interested to hear what Barrington Pheloung (sp?) had
to say on the morning ITV show on Monday. Only caught a snippet as I was
channel hopping.

It is well known that he (Pheloung) uses (albeit slightly bastardised)
Morse code in the theme music.  Apparently he has been known to put clues
as to "who-dunnit" into the music too. 

For the last show tomorrow has encoded that elusive Morse forename.  Okay.
That gives me 20 more hours to learn Morse code so I can work it all out.
If anyone is fluent and can work it out PLEASE post (with spoilers?) as I
*still* don't know what his name is.
____________________________________________________________________________
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From: martin@kingpin.demon.co.uk (martin)
Subject: Re: US <-> UK video swapping
Reply-To: martin@kingpin.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:15:00 +0000

I would also like to swap VHS tapes with someone from the US/Canada.
My main interest is in ST:TNG, ST:DS9 & The Simpsons :-)
I can view in NTSC but am not yet able to convert so can only send 
PAL recordings. Please mail me if interested.

 
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)