HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bernman@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bern Man)
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: What is this group for?
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:33:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44313
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


	What type of "co-op" is this group for?  Business co-op?  Or
co-op-erative leaning?
	If the latter, then I what aspect?  Looking for a job site?  I
could use some help in that!
	I'm in Purdue University's Engineering co-op.  I'm majoring in
Nuclear Engineering, and looking for a co-op position in nuclear fusion
research.  Please e-mail if you are interested or have suggestions on
where I can find info.  I'm waiting on word from Argonne National Lab.

-- 
			/\/B E R N   M A N\/\

     "The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know..."
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
From: colinj@engin.umich.edu (Colin Johnson)
Subject: Ithaca Update request
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:22:25 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na



	Can anyone update us on the situation with the Greenstar Co-op
in Ithaca? What is the status of the co-op? Have they found a new site
yet? What stage of planning are they in?

-- 
Colin Johnson                        | Dragging NASCO kicking and screaming
Colin.Johnson@um.cc.umich.edu (work) | into the 21st century
From: tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu (Sax and Violins)
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: Co-ops dedicated to specific interests?
Summary: Are there co-ops dedicated to specific interests?
Keywords: creativity
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:29:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.33059


	I'm just curious-- are there co-ops dedicated to specific
	academic or other special interests?  I mean, are there
	co-ops where only Literature majors live, or co-ops full
	of computer fiends?  Are there any co-ops whose purpose
	extends beyond housing and social interest to promoting
	the education/career of the residents?

	I don't know much about the co-op system and I'd
	really like to know....

	Todd Courtois
From: p92@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: <None>
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:52:19 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

Hey Oberlin,
   Thanks for a great NASCO Bash!

                  The Ithaca Five
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: pierre@cs.UAlberta.CA (Pierre Honeyman)
Subject: Re: The Hacker Test PROGRAM!
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:57:15 GMT

xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:

>In <chris.702814116@rufus> chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane) writes:

>>BB1TSPNW@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:

>>>section 1 of uuencode 4.02 of file hacktest.zip    by R.E.M.
>>> 
>>>begin 644 hacktest.zip
>>                    ^^^

>>You already lose :-)

>Not necessarily--not if it was compressed with a version of zip that the
>original poster ported to a new machine personally.  Smart hackers are
>all running the new beta version of the portable zip--though the ones
>that have zoo 2.10 may be doing it just for fun.  Compress is a complete
>waste of time and storage, and no serious hacker would use it for
>anything except to distribute code to those places still so lost in the
>dark ages that they have nothing else available.  :-)

>ObHack: rewriting most of Apple II DOS 3.x in Forth so that I could get
>high-speed random access to text files, rather than using the
>mind-bogglingly slow CIN calls to read the text a byte at a time.
>I even managed to get payed for this (does it still count as a hack?)
>-- 
>Chris Waters    | the insane don't |   I figure the odds be fifty-fifty:
>xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | I just might have something to say. --FZ

I have been reading this group for a while now and it seems that you all
have no lives... hacking Apples was fun in 82 but get on with it.
From: william@ravel.udel.edu (Wild William)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Vacuum tubes WANTED!
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:40:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Delaware

I am looking for old vacuum tubes, so if you are going to throw any out
any time soon, send me some e-mail and let me know.


I'm looking to fix some old tube sets.


william@brahms.udel.edu
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: The Hacker Test PROGRAM!
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 15:06:59 GMT

In article <xzvjqyf.xtifr@netcom.com> xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
>Compress is a complete
>waste of time and storage, and no serious hacker would use it for
>anything except to distribute code to those places still so lost in the
>dark ages that they have nothing else available.  :-)

Wimps. You're all spoiled by all these large-address-space machines.
Sometimes even compress is too much. Plus, zip breaks the division between
tools by combining an archive format with a compression program, so you
can't pipeline the two jobs.
-- 
/F{findfont exch scalefont setfont}def /S{moveto show}def /T{/Times-Roman F}def
6 T (Have you hugged your wolf today?)468 20 S 9 T (Taronga Park BBS)24 35 S 10
/Courier F(`-_-')488 40 S ( 'U` )488 30 S 6 T (+1 713 568 0480 2400/n/8/1)24 27
S (+1 713 568 1032 Trailblazer)24 20 S 12 T (Peter da Silva)24 45 S showpage
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: jhelbaum@drops.Princeton.EDU (Jason H. Elbaum)
Subject: Re: DSing the SS (was Re: Apple ][ gritty digitizer)
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:20:23 GMT

In article <GLENN.92Apr9103152@curie.ces.cwru.edu>, glenn@curie.ces.cwru.edu (Glenn Crocker) writes:

|> SCISSORS?  Why when I was a boy, we didn't have SCISSORS!  We'd CHEW
|> the notch in the disks.  And they weren't those NAMBY PAMBY 5.25"
|> disks!  They were 8" disks!

Correct me if I'm wrong (more than likely), but weren't the 8" disks 
write-protected when there _was_ a notch?  Of course, the drives I
had were double-sided anyway.

ObHack: the Ohio Scientific Challenger 8P-DF.  Getting it to do anything
right was a hack.

-- 
Jason Elbaum                               jhelbaum@phoenix.princeton.edu
From: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Bouncing through a firewall (was Re: Sound Digitizer)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:27:54 GMT
	<1dN5021tc3yH00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


In article <1dN5021tc3yH00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:

   In article <WARLORD.92Apr9140047@toxicwaste.mit.edu> warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins) writes:
   >ObHack: Writing a program to bounce X connections through a firewall
   >machine that only allowed telnet connections to pass through from the
   >inside to the outside, and allowing connections from only the hosts I
   >wanted in the outside to be accepted.

   Passing TCP is easy.  Passing UDP Netrek packets got a bit tricky...  

   [rest deleted]

Not when you don't have access to the firewall machine at all, its
not.  If I had access then I could easily have put a TCP-forward program
on there, and I could have used Kerberos from that machine.  Yet since
I didn't have access to the firewall I couldn't.

However, I DID make a hack to do this -- I hacked a program to bounce
Kerberos requests through the firewall!  If I had access to the
firewall none of this would have been neccessary!!!  (But it was fun
doing it :-)

ObHack: Porting AFS 3.1b to a Sun386i.  Why?  For the hell of it.

   >         Derek Atkins -- MIT '93 -- Electrical Engineering

   -- 
   fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
   [ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
--
         Derek Atkins -- MIT '93 -- Electrical Engineering
--warlord@MIT.EDU | ..!mit-eddie!mit-athena!warlord | s20069@mitvma.bitnet
   Vice Chairman, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
           MIT Media Laboratory, Speech Research Group
From: bosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie (Bryan O'Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: That grungy all-nighter feeling
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:02:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin

It's been too long. A couple months of writing Modula-2 code for
coursework and I forget the joys of _real_ coding. You know what I mean:
that "real programmer" feeling of having fluent C flow from your
fingertips in the wee hours of the morning as bugs get flattened by
the might of your caffeine-drenched brain and dbx working together, and
the "damn, maybe 5 spoons of coffee was too much for a single mug"
quiver in your stomach, caused by drinking "Old Ulceration" brand
coffee.

I can control it any time I like; I just hack sometimes; if I wanted to,
I could stop. Really.

ObYeuch: the inspiration for this post is an assembler that I put
together in about 20 hours (1000 lines of code) as part of a team
project. I spent a couple of hours staring at the code for the second
pass, wondering why labels were getting resolved in only a single case,
and it finally struck me that I was doing an unforgivable thing: I was
passing, to one function, an index into an array of char which got used
to index into an array of shorts -- argh!  The most annoying thing was
that I had "fixed" this bug a couple of times in different ways before
finally seeing the real source of my trouble, and each "fix" only worked
under one set of conditions. Really set me to scratching my poor head.

	-- Bryan

Back to the Modula-2 again for a while, until dawn at least. Ho hum.

--
--
Bryan O'Sullivan                                                +353-(0)1-973504
Advanced Development Group                                 bosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie
Department of Computer Science              "Experience is what you get when you
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: clb@hp835.mitek.com (Chris Boyd)
Subject: Re: Apple ][ gritty digitizer
Organization: OpenConnect Systems
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:12:59 GMT
Keywords: sound, cheap

jay@puppsr5.Princeton.EDU (Jay Shrauner) writes:
>This was the only use I ever found for that cassette port---I mean, who
>here exists who actually used tapes* for file storage?  I suppose it
>might still be slightly faster than a C-64 disk drive, but still...

Well, I did.  A floppy drive cost something like $600.00, plus a
C note or so for the controller card.  Single Side Single Density
disks were $4.50 EACH.  Suitable cassette tapes were within my
limited budget.

ObHack:
Making my own punch to cut a write protect notch on the other
side of one of those $4.50 SSSD disks so's that I could write
data on the flipside of the disk.
-- 
(* Chris Boyd          OpenConnect Systems, Inc.          clb@oc.com *)
(*  2033 Chennault, Carrollton TX 75006, USA.  Real close to Dallas  *)
From: glhewitt@phoenix.princeton.edu (Gary L. Hewitt)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: TRS-80 hacks
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:39:25 GMT
Organization: Princeton Univ.
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <knauer.702091749@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu>, knauer@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase) writes:
> 
> In <1992Mar31.210056.3758@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins) writes:
> >Enough of this Apple (correct pronunciation is A-pile) hacking, how about
> >TRS-80 model 1's?  Mine had a cassette deck on it, disks were still 8 inches
> 
> I can't top that; I used a Model I in elementary school but never owned one.
> (Gotta love error Level I error messages.)  I do, however have a Model III in
> my apartment now (32K, no disk).  It's not even a good terminal since it has
> no serial port and a 64-column screen. :)
 
wwhhhaatt abbbouuut that kkkkeeeyybounce?  And those 84K 5-1/4" floppies?

But BASIC in ROM allowed my first hack (such as it was) -- my sister crashed
in SCRIPSIT (I don't know - maybe the printer wasn't hooked up).  I get 
awakened -- a short basic program does the trick:

10 FOR X = 4000 (or so, wherever the ROM stopped) TO 16383
20 Y = PEEK (X)
30 LPRINT ASCII (Y);
40 NEXT X
50 END

Printed her paper so she could retype (though I suppose I should've gotten it
back into the SCRIPSIT buffer or something).

Ah, BASIC in ROM -- made things a lot easier.  My parents turn the old TRS-80
Model 1 (L2 Basic, expansion interface, 48K, *2* disk drives and a lower-case
card!!!!) once a year.  Hell, they wrote a book with the thing!

ObHack: the above

GARY
--
glhewitt@phoenix.princeton.edu: blah, blah, blah
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Good 'ol Apple ][
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:36:58 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

My best Apple ][ hack was implementing an overlay manager - in integer basic.
EXEC was SUCH a useful command...but GOD was it slow ;)

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com) No, I don't speak for Cabletron.
-------------------------------------------------------------
I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a "disgrace",
that two are called a "law firm", and that three or more become a "Congress".
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Bouncing through a firewall (was Re: Sound Digitizer)
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:11:07 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <WARLORD.92Apr9140047@toxicwaste.mit.edu> warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins) writes:
>ObHack: Writing a program to bounce X connections through a firewall
>machine that only allowed telnet connections to pass through from the
>inside to the outside, and allowing connections from only the hosts I
>wanted in the outside to be accepted.

Passing TCP is easy.  Passing UDP Netrek packets got a bit tricky...  The
software running on the firewall used sendto() and recvfrom(), but Netrek uses
bind() and connect() (I wanted it to fit well within the current TCP model).
I had to use two different sockets and switch off between them, since the
client and server each had their own idea of who the other guy was (you can't
use the same socket to send to both client and server, unless you use the
same socket to receive from both, but that would require comparing the source
address every time you receive a packet).

However, I already had all these nice structures floating around (thanks
Kevin), and I didn't want to have to change the way it listen()s to sockets
or cope with double meanings for structure values, so I just had each socket
send to the other socket's destination address.  So while the model still
looked like:

	client	-1->  server
	client	<-2-  server

it was actually:

	client <-\ /-> server
		 1 2
	client <-/ \-> server

ObHack: using UDP at all.  To say that I was shocked by the difference in
performance is an understatement.  I used to have lots of glitches playing
on a server in Irvine... recently, somebody in *France* could play on that
same server.  Sure, they had 20% packet loss, but when 75% of the packets
are just ship and torpedo position updates, who cares?  While TCP was throwing
major fits, UDP was calmly tossing packets and ignoring the ordering.

Obviously I had to step carefully around the packet loss and ordering
problems, but it wasn't TOO bad.

ObHack corollary: I was the biggest naysayer of UDP on alt.games.xtrek (now
rec.games.netrek).  It is so strange the way things turn. :-)

>         Derek Atkins -- MIT '93 -- Electrical Engineering

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: swoodwar@zeus.calpoly.edu (Null Cypher)
Subject: Test
Organization: Void-Tech Illumination Research, Inc.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 19:27:55 GMT

Test.
-- 
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   Gur bayl checbfr bs guvf fvtangher vf gb trg crbcyr gb ebg-guvegrra vg...
                 Qvq V rire fnl vg jnf tbvat gb or jbegujuvyr?
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: magundi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald)
Subject: Re: DSing the SS (was Re: Apple ][ gritty digitizer)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:33:53 GMT

In article <GLENN.92Apr9103152@curie.ces.cwru.edu> glenn@curie.ces.cwru.edu (Glenn Crocker) writes:
>
>
>SCISSORS?  Why when I was a boy, we didn't have SCISSORS!  We'd CHEW
>the notch in the disks.  And they weren't those NAMBY PAMBY 5.25"
>disks!  They were 8" disks!  NO!  They were 10 foot disks and they
>weighed hundreds of pounds each!  And we had to carry them uphill to
>the machine room 4,000 miles with NO SHOES!  Yeah, we were just dumb
>kids with dull teeth, but we were HAPPY.
>

You forgot to mention that we had to make the disks out of solid rock.
With our bare hands!!!

john


Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: DSing the SS (was Re: Apple ][ gritty digitizer)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 17:59:35 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Apr9.164752.5677@adobe.com> swirsky@adobe.com (Robert Swirsky) writes:
>
>I can spot a phony hacker anywhere! On 8" disks, of course, the sense
>of the write-protect notch was reversed! You had to tape over the notch
>to be able to write to the disk! There's no need to chew on anything.

Sorry, the sense of the 8" disks was CORRECT, following that of
magtapes (with the ubiqutous WRITE-ENABLE rings).  It is the smaller
disks which have them reversed

Obhack:  Yes, I put a switch on a disk II so I wouldn't have to punch
those damn holes.  

-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted Faber)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: The Hacker Test PROGRAM!
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:42:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: spool.1992Apr16.174248.26256
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In <hackers.703303035@rstoopid> pierre@cs.UAlberta.CA (Pierre Honeyman) writes:

>>[lost of Hacker Test stuff deleted]
>
>I have been reading this group for a while now and it seems that you all
>have no lives... hacking Apples was fun in 82 but get on with it.
>

	What, no ObHack???
>
	ObHack: An Apple ][+ graphical screen print program tied through
		the & command in AS basic.  Actually I disassembled an
		existing screen printer and hacked the interface....

"Never before has pornography been this rampant.  And those films are 
 lit so badly!" -- Woody Allen

-- 
Ted Faber		Figment at Large		  faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." -- Maugham
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From: agulbra@flipper.pvv.unit.no (Arnt Gulbrandsen)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Spectrum emulation (was Re: TRS-80 hacks)
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:26:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ugle.1992Apr9.172631.25427
Organization: ProgramVareVerkstedet - UNIT

In article <1992Apr3.202435.18362@utdallas.edu>, shane@utdallas.edu (Shane Davis) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr2.153048.25153@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>, berg@physik.tu-muenchen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) writes:
|> |> Have you seen xtrs?  Yes, indeed, an X-windows based TRS-80 emulation (i.e. you
|> |> can run real TRS-80 binaries in there).

|> OK, who has time to modify it to run Timex/Sinclair, also a Z80 machine
|> (half the work is done since Z80 processing is already provided)?

I have, and since I already have written a nice Spectrum emulator for the PC
it shouldn't be too much work.  However, i don't have xtrs and it's been
expired on the news server.  Would anyone care to mail me a copy or tell me
where alt.sources is archived?

|> ObBrain-damagedManufacturerHack: Timex/Sinclair 2068 (hey, this was a cool
|> machine, 48K RAM, hires color...) NMI vector handling. The code went something
|> like this:
|> 
|> 0066:
|> 	LD HL,(some RAM address)
|> 	If HL=0				(sorry, I forget how they tested)
|> 	  JP (HL)
|> 	Else
|> 	  RST 0
|> 
|> What good is an NMI if it's going to be the same as a power-on reset? Why
|> go through the motions of vectoring NMI processing instead of just coding an
|> immediate RST 0? 

LD HL,(somewhere) ; LD A,H ; OR L ; JR NZ,0 ; JP (HL) from memory.  That JR NZ
should have been a JR Z.  I've a patched ROM where this and some other bugs have
been fixed, if any old Spectrum hackers would like a copy, mail me.

--Arnt
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: jtilton@willamette.edu (James Tilton)
Subject: Those Apple ][ days of yore...
Summary: "The best days of his life" "What life?"
Keywords: Bought a II+ a month before the IIe came out.
Organization: Willamette University, Salem, OR
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:49:22 GMT

And a great big howdy.  I'll just pop in my favorite hack from my II+
days....

My aunt managed to fubar (in the military acronymistic sense, natch...
:) ) one of her disks... and figured that I, being the black sheep of
the family would be able to wave my magic wand... so, being put on the
spot, my mind went whirling, and came up with the DOS 3.3 RWTS
(read/write a track/sector for you 6502 apostates, out there :) )
command... I wrote a *BASIC* (gasp...) program which went through and
tried to recover every sector on disk using the RWTS raw interface.  Of
course, this resulted in me having to use appleworks to manually
reconstruct what was left of the files, but I was a pretty damn proud 14
year old.  (And the reconstruction was pretty tricky too, mind you...
I'm just glad it was only a 5.25" disk... 256 characters out of context
is just *too* much fun...)

Anyway, I'll just reminisce about those good 'ol days, when the Apple
computers came with manuals that actaully *mentioned* and (fairly well)
*described* things like RWTS... unlike now, when you get 80 pages of
"point and click"... argh.  For sheer hackitude, nothing quite beats
those early personal computers.... :)

ObFavoritePrice for a computer:  The Apple I.  $666.67.  Doesn't it just
have *attitude*?  John Sculley just doesn't quite have the same chutzpa.
:(

							-et
From: jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan R. Ferro)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Credit Card Authorization Machines
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:03:51 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>*Gad*, what a grundgy hack!
                   ^ 
Oh, no!  The dreaded "extra d" disease is spreading!  First "kluge",
now "grunge".  Will the horror ever end??

ObHack:
Writing a package to handle the pseudo-tty setup and I/O management
for "*-O-Matic" curses game solving programs.  Unfortunately, there
aren't that many curses games left--looks like I'm going to have to
learn how to emulate an X server to decode screen updates to keep up
with the pace of technology.  (See?  You can use "X" and "technology"
in the same sentence.)

--
Jon Ferro		MIT Transportation Modelling Research Center (TMRC)
jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu	"We can hack it!"
SGNTR VRS VRSN 3.1B: Strppd nd cmprssd fr qckr trnsmssn! nfct yrs tdy!
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Subject: Re: DSing the SS (was Re: Apple ][ gritty digitizer)
Originator: tai50080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
X-Instrument: Glockenspiel
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu
Organization: Institute for Applied Magical Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:35:35 GMT

glenn@curie.ces.cwru.edu (Glenn Crocker) writes:
>flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>   clb@hp835.mitek.com (Chris Boyd) writes:
>   >Making my own punch to cut a write protect notch on the other
>   >side of one of those $4.50 SSSD disks so's that I could write
>   >data on the flipside of the disk.
>   ha!  We just cut 'em out with scissors.  Easy to miss the media.  Lots of
>   leeway in there.
>SCISSORS?  Why when I was a boy, we didn't have SCISSORS!  We'd CHEW
>the notch in the disks.  And they weren't those NAMBY PAMBY 5.25"
>disks!  They were 8" disks!  NO!  They were 10 foot disks and they
>weighed hundreds of pounds each!  And we had to carry them uphill to
>the machine room 4,000 miles with NO SHOES!  Yeah, we were just dumb
>kids with dull teeth, but we were HAPPY.

Wimp.  At least you had disks.  We had to memorize the entire operating
system in machine code, and type it in every morning.
-- 
Thomas Aaron Insel (tinsel@uiuc.edu)
  I speak for myself, and not for the State or University of Illinois.
  "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -- Edward R. Murrow